Want to start out and say we got a new fence put in the same day so it's kinda hard to see we had some 40 mile winds in the last 2 days and want to say the stacks that come with are long and perfect the only reason I gave a 3 was because I did notice that it's already rusting before putting together was disappointing we will see if it will last in Chicago weather a year I would hate to have to a purchase a different on next spring they should make it weather proof at least not rusting in the box it comes in