I was actually surprised how good they are. They seem pretty sturdy and nice looking chairs. Firm when you sit but comfortable enough to enjoy a lovely dinner. I have another darker grey velvet chair that I bought from another store and which I’d like to stain the wood a nice lighter brown … now I am not sure if I get another dark grey velvet or keep this own as a side chair and buy two more from wayfair… it’s just that they increased the price all of a sudden … it was such a good deal!