Item arrived damaged with many scratches on  bottom of pan. Due to scratches it is clear the copper is thin. I am not "uneducated" when it comes to cookware. Yes this pan is heavy. Yes the handle is well secured. Handle has nice curve. It is "hard" to find quilty copper. The low price point reflects the thin copper. You are better off just getting a quilty tri-ply stainless without a thin copper coating.