I ordered these two to replace my AllClad which was years old and I felt worn out. I ordered these 2 sizes and was anxious to use them and was more than disappointed in the nonstick part.  That screen in the bottom caught bits of food and the butter was scorched around the edge.  My old pans did much better, needless to say, I sent them back   I think if it was not for that screen in the bottom they would have been fine.