These chairs turned out to be so much better than I expected them to be. Let me explain... I quickly needed black chairs for 6, and couldn't afford exuberant pricing, so I thought I would give these a try, until I could afford something better. Honestly, I was even skeptical after taking them out of the box; but after assembly and trying them out, I was quite thankfully surprised!! I have even postponed looking for "something better" for quite some time, as these chairs are suiting us all just fine, and go perfect with our decor. They even meet the high standards required in dealing with an active child, who seems to think the chairs are there for his amusement between meals. Great choice!