The chairs, when they go together, are just what I wanted. One chair went together in under 5 minutes. The next took almost an hour, and we had to drill out the holes as they weren't properly aligned and we could NOT get the bolt to line up with the hole in the leg. We ordered 6 chairs. I haven't put the other 4 together yet. Once they're together, they're fine, but WHAT A PAIN to put together if they weren't right on the mark with hole placement. 4 out of 6 had firm seats, and 1 set had saggy feeling seats. We put them where people won't sit on them often.