I like the undies, but I wouldn’t say they are better than these Hanes I have had for 8 years. Considering the price, I would rate them as average. They are 4x the price of the Hanes. Maybe it is just the Hanes are that good. Either way, I would say the price is the biggest issue. This is the first time I have ever actually bought some higher end undies and I will not do that again. Thanks