I like the look of these chairs a lot but beware of how deep they are! They are big time loungers. When you sit in them, you slump down and back. They came with lumbar pillows that did help a little but I decided to get other pillows that were bigger so that when people are sitting they’re not laying back too much. Also, the cushion helps with the hard wicker. My back is kind of bony and they’re really not the most comfortable without some kind of cushion. I still like them a lot. And friends who have sat in them like them as well.