What do I think?  Well the crate so far appears to be more than adequate, have to see how the pups attempt to destroy it, and how /if they succeed.  Wife even likes the appearance.  Now to the issue I have its with Delivery, whoever you have delivering is getting lazy or overly careful. The boxesthe crate (2 boxes very heavy), and the other box the pads, were all left about a hundred yards from my door.  I do live in the mountains.  But I'm an old man and recovering from back surgery/  I had to hire a guy to get them into my house.   Plus another to help me get it arranged