First off I have worked in professional kitchens for over 50 years.  I know pots and pans.  For a family kitchen these pans are quite nice.  But the cooking surface of both pans are small compared to other brand pans of the same size.  I had been thinking about buying the 12 inch skillet but now I’m not so sure   Also food does stick to these pans so clean up is not as easy as you claim.  I’ve only use them a few times and they are already discolored