Great pans and from hob to oven is great washing up saver!  The edges are already missing some black coating despite being carefully handled and having pan separators in them and cleaning by hand with non stick sponges.  The lid is a let down - cooked a curry and other flavoursome dishes and the cupboard they are stored in stinks despite washing numerous times, using bi-carb and lemon! Bad idea as the silicone rim holds smells.