All clad is hyped up brand with bad customer service and their pans DO NOT MATCH UP with all the reviews. They tarnish very quickly I brought them to be my primary pans and so far they fared badly than cheaper brands. I would go with other brands. Their customer service is worse than the pans and you will need that if are planning to use them on a regular basis. Definitely won't last a lifetime unless you are planning to live only for 6 months to a year.