I think its real, players end up with brain damage and that is a sad thing


For sure, I wonder how much of it is in the player before they start too? Got to have something going on there to want to play in the NFL but yah, too many concussions is way too much and too many people getting hurt.


Yeah traumatic brain injuries that are also difficult to diagnose, the symptoms take a long time to disappear.


They do, usually caused by repeated blows to the head, very difficult to diagnose indeed. It's something but no one wants to pay attention to it it seems.


Did you watch that movie the one with Will Smith? I thought it was revealing and the game should evolve and change for the better


What was that movie called again? I did see it, was it called Concussion right?


Yeah I think thats it, self explained name when you think about it and also ''chronic traumatic encephalopathy" sounds like a serious condition.


That line "Tell the truth" is pretty iconic in my opinion, it was a good movie for sure. Made me view the NFL a bit different. I guess it makes us think if millions of dollars for a few years is worth all that?


I don't think it is, I do love the game but think it should be safer for players. Have you ever heard of Gaelic football?


I have not, what is Gaelic Football? Is it like rugby?


Its another variation of football haven't watched it but I guess its also really interesting.


Very interesting. I wonder if it has more than 11 minutes of live football like the NFL has on average per game.


That is not a lot of time, the Superbowl was really long lasted more than 3 hours


Oh wow, that was such a boring Super Bowl though, Tom Brady is so good, and I'm not even a fan of his lol.


Yeah, he is one of the best QB ever to play the game. Engineers end up earning more money than football players


I could see that, I'm sure NFL players have a lot more fun in their 20s, maybe not so much their 40s and 50s though when they are so sore haha.


I have no idea about that lol, what are your thoughts on the tracking chips the players have embedded in their shoulders.


I think it's pretty cool, the chips help them with their analytics, that's why you see so many 3's in the NBA now, they've studied all the data and for some people it's beneficial to lob 3s instead of jumpers.


Oh so you are basketball fan as well and yeah it is pretty cool all the interesting stats we can learn thanks to those chips.


For sure, data is really changing the world. Great talking with you though, I hope you have a great night! Take care!


I do, did you watch the Superbowl last month?


I liked it, my favorite team was playing although it was a slow Superbowl.


The Patriots and their perfomance was good considerng they won, what do you think of brain damage and the game


I like the patriots too. Much like the lannisters of football


They have dominated the NFL for a while so yeah, thats a valid analogy,


Ya and they have amazing players like brady. Surprised he is still playing, but his performance is still solid


I agree, he is 40 years old but still one of the best QB on the league, wonder how much money he makes, must be a lot


I hear his wife still makes more. Power couple


She is a famous model or was a famous model to think engineers actually end up winning more than pro football players


I think it is due to the high rate of injury leading to early retirement for many players


Yeah, football players carreers seem to be short due to injuries, did you hear about the tracking chips they have?


In their shoulder pads or in the football?


Both, I guess that they give all kinds of interesting stats,


I wonder if it is any help in reducing injuries


I think it could, if you meassure the impact and then find a way to protect the players


I don't think protective football gear has evolved much


No, I hear they wanted to change certain rules to protect players but easier said than done,


In any case, I hope less people get injured. Thanks for chatting.


Hello there, I do enjoy football, both american and international, how about you?


I do! I'm learning a lot of Jerry Jones! Have you heard of him?


Oh yeah the Cowboys owner, I thought they would have made a longer run in this years playoffs, are you a Cowboys fan?


I am! He is trying to expand to 18 games instead of the 16 they have now.


Yeah I could agree, if they took two of the preseason games away.


I agree! Who wants to deal with a unexpected brain injury?


Exactly! Did you ever see the Concussion movie with Will Smith?


I haven't! is it good? Did you watch it on tv?


Yeah I thought it was really good, and it really makes you concerned about all of the brain damage football players of all ages take during the game.


I will have to look that up. I wonder how that would affect female players in the NFL? There is no written rule against them.


I think I read about that, I think it would be so cool if a female player did make a roster and made an impact in the league.


One has been drafted! With only 11 minutes of actual play, maybe the chances are low of her getting one.


That is very true, I don't think most people realize just how little actual gameplay there is in games.


The NFL tracking chips that are in the players uniforms have been quite handy for finding info like that out!


Yeah they sure have, I hope they are using that technology to help with player safety as well.


Me too! Have you ever watched the 70's show?


Yeah I sure have, I grew up in Wisconsin and had a very similar teen life lol.  How about you?


I just loved watching it! Was a lot of fun! But did you know they tried to remake it in the UK and it bombed?


Yeah I heard they did it verbatim and it was really bad!


I guess the UK could just not relate! I watch the simpsons, but have you seen F is for Family?


I love the Simpsons, but wish they would have stopped making the show after season 12 or so.


Kinda getting old isn't it? Too bad! Kinda like Pokemon for me! My kids loved that show!


That is incredible how many shows they made.  It was nice talking with you, I hope you have a good day!


Hi there! Do you have a football team that you like?


Not really. I'm not into sports that much, but it's an interesting subject to me. Do you have a favorite team?


I do. I love football facts. I know former NFL'er Benjarvus Green-Ellis has never fumbled a football in his NFL career.


I guess recently discoveries have been made linking football to traumatic brain injury (obviously) but even worse, also degenerative brain disease and chronic encephalopathy! I'll be looking more into it, as I said, I'm interested :)


Absolutely! running back Larry Johnson is battling self destructive impulses and surely CTE. It seems unfair to me, to have a sport in which the players are suffering for the rest of their lives!


Wow. I had no idea of such issus. Hard to believe the NFL has no rules against females playing in the league as long as they can meet eligibility requirements.


Shake my head! And I was just reading about it and found out that in the 60's top  bowlers made twice as much as top football stars! We should all just go back to bowling! It's much safer :)


Far safer indeed! Amazing that the average NFL game only has 11 minutes of live game play.


Yeah that is amazing! I would think the average game play would be much longer. Hm. I wonder why! So, it's hard to believe women could play too, but they might not be as offended if they were playing against the university of Iowa who painted the visiting teams locker room pink! HA! Talk about good sportsmanship :)


No kidding! Did you know the NFL uses tracking chips to track player movement?


No I didn't! I hope they put the chips in say the shoes or helmets versus implanting them in the players bodies! The very idea of tracking chips scares me!


They put the chips in the players shoulder pads so they can track every move the player makes on the field.


Oh whew! Okay. that isn't sooo bad :) I wonder why the New Orleans Saints cheerleaders aren't allowed to eat at the same restaurant as any NFL player! I heard that if the cheerleader is eating at a restaurant and any player comes in, she has to leave! That's absurd!


Sounds sexist if you ask me. An engineer's average lifetime salary is higher than that of an NFL player. Not as exciting, but interesting.


Something tells me that being an engineer is much safer than being an NFL player. Hard to say which job would be more satisfying or more worthy of doing. Considering engineers get paid more, I'd go with that job!


I would agree. It is notable though that it is only a 17 week regular playing season for NFL teams.


Oh wow! If that is per year, I'd love to only work 4 months and 1 week a year. But I'm sure they have to practice and do other things, like media events throughout the year. So maybe I will look into being an engineer and put my football dreams behind me. Haha. Kidding of course :)


I would too. It was really nice chatting with you today!


Thanks! Same to you! I hope you have a wonderful day!


Yea I watch the nfl and a little college. I'm glad to see Danny Johnson made it onto the Redskins despite playing at Southern University


Yes!  Did you know that the University of Iowa painted their visitors locker room pink?


Yea, I guess Iowa was trying to psych out the visiting teams by painting the lockers pink


No doubt. lol  In the 1960's top bowlers made twice as much as the top football stars of the day.  Times have sure changed since then.


Yea, Espn won an emmy for it's coverage of the NFL, it's never won an emmy for its bowling coverage


LOL  I love that superimposed line they created.


Yea, it's too bad there was not tv when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0, I'd love to see highlights of that


Yea, I wonder how much live gameplay that game had since the NFL averages 11 minutes


lol  Did you know that the NFL has no written rule that prevents females from playing?  Maybe we'll see one someday.  Maybe a kicker?


Possibly, I wonder if a female player was on the Saints if she would not be allowed to be in the same public places as the male players like the cheerleaders are


Isn't that an odd rule to have?  I don't get it.


Yea, the saints rules sounds really outdated and sexist


I agree.  What do you think of the tracking chips they are putting in the players shoulder pads and footballs?  They claim it's to track the players moves on the field and to track the velocity, etc. of the balls.


It's pretty interesting, I know in baseball people are making a big deal out of tracking ball speed and velocity


It's crazy.  I'm wondering with the chips in football could they be programmed so that say the chip in the ball is programmed to go to the the chip in the shoulder pad?  Seems kind of shady...


I guess so but it might be cool if they put chips in basketball, I'd love to know how much force Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's dunk had


I remember him!  He was famous for his hook shot and in college he dunked so much that they banned it for almost a decade!  it's been fun chatting with you!


Yea, I wonder I Jabbar ever coached, they are the highest paid employees in 39 of 50 states


Crazy that those college coaches are paid that much!  Have a good one!


Hey there. Yes I love football. I am sad that the NFL season is over.


I am too.  A 17 week regular season is just too short.


Yeah I agree especially with only 11 minutes of average gameplay per game.


They definitely should make that longer.  Say, I've heard that women can play if they want to and meet the requirements.  Do you think they should?


I think they should if they are good enough but they shouldn't if they are smart. It is such a brutal game. And they don't make all that much because of injuries.


Yeah, the average lifetime earnings of an engineer are higher than that of an nfl player and a mlb player.


Did you hear how the Saints cheerleaders can't interact with the players?


I think I have. Isn't that where if a cheerleader is in a restaurant and a player comes in she has to leave?


Yeah exactly. The NFL even tracks player movements using tracking chips!


Yes on the field! They put it in their shoulder pads and also the football itself!


Wow!  I knew a little about the football but I had no idea they had chips on the players too.


Yeah no wonder they can get such good accurate stats!


You know you're right!  It does make sense when you think about it.  I wonder if they'll ever use those chips like nascar does their cars and be able to tell if players make touchdowns and first downs.


Good question. I also really like the yellow first down marker when watching games on tv. ESPN won an Emmy for that.


I like that too. It makes the game more intense and exciting when you see how far a team has to go to make the first down.


Agreed. I wonder if the NBA uses chips to track stats too? There is even a bball court on top of the USA Supreme Court building.


Hmm, I never thought about that.  If they don't, they should.  That bball court you're talking about by the way is called the highest court in the land.


Oh very cool. Wonder if anyone famous has played there? Kareem abul Jabbar used to have such a dominant dunk that it got banned in college!


It got banned?  He must have been overpowering teams and winning all the time!


i do like football sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes. you?


I watch a few games a year,  but I do not keep up with it at all.


i try to watch the playoffs, maybe the superbowl.


Thats cool.  Did you know the NFL has no written rule against female players?


I have heard that, but I don't think that women can qualitfy. It's a tough game


Yeah,  just depends on the woman.  I hear the NFL uses tracking chips on the players and football.


I would like to see a woman that could do that. I have no problem with that. If she can play, let her in. Put the tracking chips on her.


The average game play of a football game is 11 min!  It takes like 3 hours usually to see the whole event lol


those players spend a lot of time standing around and waiting. i figured that 11 minutes was a bit short, but now that i think about it, it sounds right.


lol yeah I know right!  So many time outs,  fouls,  huddles,  etc.


Yes, basketball is a sport that flows a lot more.


Basketball was invented by a Canadian. A *canadian*


lol cool.  I hear the inventor of basketball is the only losing coach in the university of kansas history.  Ironic.


He really could not coach. i guess he knew how to create game, not play them.


yeah,  thats unfortunate.  I hope he gets royalties or something,  this game has blown up!  it generates so much money!


yes, it has. the college coaches make so much. it seems like a distortion of the purpose of college.


Yeah 39 out of 50 states the highest paid employee is the college basketball or football coach.


I wonder where this all going to lead. Soon the degree-granting aspect of college will become optional extra. Anyway, great chat!


I am a fan yeah, do you have a favorite team? 32 teams 2 division 1 winner


My favorite team is the Buffalo Bills. lol  The University of Iowa painted their visitors locker room pink.  I think the Bills might have stepped in there once. lol


How did they do past season? and that is funny lol a pink locker room for the visiting team


The Bills didn't do well. They rarely do well.  Haven't been good since the Jim Kelly days.  In the 1960's top bowlers made twice as much as top football stars did back then.  That's sure changed now.


Twice as much woah, that is impressive, thats a lot of money, things have changed a lot for players over the years


Yes!  Former Patriots RB Benjarvus Green-Ellis has never fumbled the ball in his NFL career.  Impressive!


That is impressive, did you hear about coach Matt Patricia?


I haven't heard of him.  What did he do?


He is a rocket scientist and also a coach, he must be a really smart man.


I bet! I'll have to look him up.  ESPN won an emmy for creating the yellow superimposed first down line on tv.


I guess the yellow line is a big contribution to the game, also the tracking chips, those seem great also.


Yes I agree!  The NFL has no written rule against female players.  Wonder if any have ever tried out?


There's no written rule against female players really? I guess we wont see them play in the league as its a physical game


I know.  Maybe as a kicker maybe.  An average NFL game only has 11 minutes of live gameplay.


Only 11 minutes? that seems really unfair, so since the re introduction of the NFL in 1999 the QB with most wins is Ben Roethlisberger


That must be in the Cleveland Browns stadium?


I think he played for the Steelers, he must be a hall of famer.


He is their current QB.  The highest score ever for a football game was when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0.   It's been fun chatting!


Oh I see, didnt know he still played and that is a humiliating loss, hope you have a nice day, its been fun chatting bye.


I'm great, it's really inspiring to hear about how Steve Spurrier played so hard in his day and earned the reputation to garner the highest paying coaching position in history.


Yeah, and did you know that he actually coached the redskins for two seasons?


Yes that's exactly the position I am referring to, they paid him almost 25 million for a five year contract. I wonder why he only coached two seasons.


Yeah really, haha. In the 1960's top bowlers made as mauch as top football stars


Wow, I could have done that since bowling is a lot easier than football! But apparently NFL players really don't make as much as other careers, like engineers.


Yes seriously but some of us lack math skills. It sounds like it's tough working in athletics, can you belief New Orleans Saints cheerleaders aren't even allowed to eat at the same restaurant as an NFL player?


I can't believe that. I wonder why? How about the highest score ever in 1916 when georgia tech beat cumberland 222-0.


They are southern so maybe they just have a very prim and proper reputation to protect. That was crazy. it makes me wonder if they rigged it! It reminds me of Great Gatsby talking about the world series being rigged around the same year.


Yeah! I was suprized to read that a former rb patriots benjarvus green-ellis never fumbled the ball in his entire football career. That's amazing!


Yeah seriously, we've come a long way since then considering that we now can track players with chips to know everything about their speed, velocity, rotation and more.


True. Did you know the University of iowa painted the visiting team's locker room pick. They got a pretty good sense of humor.


Oh I hope they were good sports about it.


I totally meant pink. glad you got that. Yeah, I'm sure they were.


Wow I didn't even read it as anything but pink haha.I could imagine football can get pretty aggressive and competitive when so much income is involved.


oh yeah! It's pretty cool that there are so many variations of football. They are known as football codes.


I can never get in to football, you only ever get to see like eleven minutes of actual live gameplay per game!


That's true. the rest is comercials. although I do love the new superbowl commercials. Those are fun.


I also enjoy watching the Superbowl commercials. I wonder if watching Superbowl commercials was always so possible even back in the early days in the 70s


I wonder too. I'll have to look it up. I just found out that espn created the yellow line represtenting the first down line for football.


I always saw that on TV but never before thought about where that came from. Did you hear they won an award for that?


Yeah, they won an emmy. pretty awesome. I wonder who came up with it? it had to start with one person.


Probably some network graphic designer guy or team I guess.


I'm a fan of all sports, but football happens to be one of my favorites and I follow the NFL closely. You?


I don't really watch it that much. I did watch the Super Bowl which is the first Sunday in February.


Oh, did you hear anything about what's been going with Le'Veon Bell this past season?


He held out this year, hoping to get a big contract from Pittsburgh or become a free agent next year. You wouldn't believe how much he money he cost himself.


$855,000 a week. Is that really true? Wow!


Yeah that's years and years of salary for me lol. He will likely get a huge contract this summer, he's one of the best running backs in football.


Right, but I guess since NFL players don't play for so many years, the average lifetime earnings of engineers are higher.


Yeah, you have to figure we mostly hear about the top players who make a ton, but the average guys don't make as much as say Le'Veon Bell. I think the average career is like a few years in the NFL.


He made $12.1 million in 2017 but had not been paid anything this season.


Right. Did you know they track player and football movement now through chips?


Yeah, lots of cool technology in football these days. ESPN got an Emmy for the superimposed yellow line.


I can't imagine watching football without that yellow line. Do you like basketball better than football?


I do find basketball more interesting. I find it funny that the inventor of basketball is the only losing coach in the University of Kansas's history.


Haha that is funny. Must have been a while ago. Do you have a favorite team or player?


I guess the Golden State Warriors since I am from that area. How about you?


I'm a Knicks fan. Not a lot of good things to say about them these days. They have a tough time putting 5 decent guys on the court.


I like seeing basketball players slam dunk.


Me too, it was banned periodically from college basketballI


That was because of Kareem Abdul Jabbar right? Pretty funny!


Hey there you a football fan? I love the american version but not so much the rugby or australian rules variation.


I love football! Did you know that the NFL has no written rule against female players? A woman would be allowed just as long as she met the requirements.


I would love to see that! She probably wouldn't mind playing at the University of Iowa with the pink locker room!


Agreed. It'll happen eventually, especially now that there are female refs. I wonder if they'd be allowed to eat in the same restaurants.. Saints cheerleaders aren't allowed to eat in a restaurant a player is in and if the player comes in while the cheerleader is eating, she has to leave.


True. That is an odd rule. Not sure if I agree. The NFL also uses tracking chips in the players shoulder pads to track movement.


Very interesting! And an average NFL game has only 11 mins of live gameplay.


Wow. Too much time for ads lol. Engineers even make more lifetime earnings than most NFL players!


I believe that. Are you a fan of basketball? The inventor of basketball, James Naismith, is the only losing coach in the history of the University of Kansas. Pretty ironic.


Yes I love bball! Very ironic. I wonder who the best coach in Kansas history is. The New Zealand basketball team is nicknamed the All Blacks!


A little inappropriate but if it doesn't bother them then ok! haha Did you know the the US Supreme court building has a bball court on the top floor and it's called "The Highest Court in the Land?"


I would love to play on the highest court in the land. College coaches get paid so much, they are the highest paid state employees in 39 out of 50 states.


Me too. That's pretty wild, I would have thought it would be football coaches or players would be top paid. In the 1960's top bowlers made twice as much as top football players!


Me too. That is a funny stat, never would have expected that. I love watching football on tv. I remember watching Green-Ellis because he never fumbled the ball.


Oh yeah the player on the Pats. That's awesome. I love watching football too. I'm already looking forward to next season. The highest score ever in a football game was 222-0. I'd call that a shut out.


Yeah no doubt. That happened back in 1916 I don't think that would ever happen currently.


Definitely not in the NFL with only 11 minutes of game play. Also, I didn't know this until recently, but the NFL also uses chips inside the footballs to track the velocity, speed, and location.


That explains how they get such accurate stats and stuff. They also put the chips in the shoulder pads to track player movement.


Well with it being the highest professional level of American football, I know the NFL definitely invests in the best technology.


Yes You said it right. With only 17 regular season games they have to pack it all in! Well I really enjoyed conversing with you!


Yes, definitely a good conversation! Have a great day/night!


Unfortunately no football to watch this weekend because the superbowl already happened! Bye now!


Hi, do you like football? By football I mean NFL football.


I love watching both nfl and college, how about you?


I mostly just watch NFL but I do watch some college too. Now is the hardest time of the year. Super Bowl over. It's a long ways until September..


Right, at least they have that new league, but I don't watch it. Do you have favorite teams?


Me either. I don't really have a team I'm a die hard fan of since there is no NFL team where I live. Did you know the NFL puts chips inside the footballs to measure velocity and rotation?


There is no NFL team where I live either, I like the Iowa Hawkeyes though for college. I never knew about the chips that is interesting.


They are even inside players shoulder pads too! I think that is to measure how hard of a hit they are taking, or giving.


wow, I wonder if they are created by the engineers who make more money in their lifetime than nfl players


Probably! The time it would take to design that. Also making them small enough so they are noticed by the players. I think the average NFL salary is low because their careers are so short and unlike other sports they all have non guaranteed contracts.


for sure, you only hear of the star players making the big bucks. Have you ever heard the worst score in college football ever?


I did, but I don't recall. I remember it happened a long time ago and was super embarrassing. I take it you know?


It was 222-0 in 1916, georgia tech vs cumberland. I would have quit after that game lol


Wow! I was thinking maybe 100 point spread. They could have at least shown mercy. I guess back then teams were a lot more ruthless. Too bad ESPN wasn't around then I'd love to watch the highlights and see the faces of the cumberland players.


Right or just left the field to never play again lol. I would hope a mercy rule was created after that game


Or at least some kind of gentleman's agreement where you stop trying to score more points which is probably what would happen now. It was a different time back then.


For sure, a lot  different back then. Now-a-days they have pink locker rooms for college lol


I saw that, although I don't think that would really bother the visiting team much. They are so focused on the game.


Actually the pink messes with them. Pink is a calming color and relaxes them extra


I guess that makes sense. Did you know ESPN created the superimposed yellow line for 1st downs before any other broadcast network? They won an emmy for it!


Wow! I never knew that! I used to think it was real growing up lol. It was so nice chatting with you!


I'm not really a fan, but I compete with my brother to pick the most winning teams each week.


We actually had a girl on the football team where I went to high school, though I have never seen a girl play football professionally.


me either, would like to see them though playing there


I'm sure popular football writer Paul Zimmerman would be surprised to see it happen.


He had been having poor health for a while. It's good to know he isn't suffering anymore.


yes that is true. did you know there is only 11 minutes of gameplay in a game


There are four quarters of 15 minutes each. How are there only 11 minutes of actual play?


I guess there is a lot of getting in position and stuff that does not count


Not like the sport called "football" in other countries, what we call soccer, there is always action in that game!


yeah that is for sure. do you use the internet much?


yeah me too i think actually you can develop addiction from clicking too much


Email and file sharing are very useful Internet services that I use daily.


those sure are. Do you know what hamburger has to do with the internet?


I'm not really sure, though sometimes I get hungry when using the Internet and order dinner to go from an online food delivery service.


yeah those are convenient. it is the three horizonal line menu


I wonder why it is called a hamburger menu?


Hello, lets talk abut the NFL. Did you know that there is no written rule that women can not play?


Hi, yeah, I had heard that.  Wonder why one hasn't tried to play, yet?


if they meet the leagues's eligibility requirements they could play, I wonder what the requirements are.


Probably physically tougher than a lot would want to attempt.  A kicker would make a nice start, though!


The games seem so long while watching , but there is only 11 minutes of live game play on average


I feel your pain!  The last Super Bowl dragged on over three hours.  Too much standing around and other nonsense.  It should be streamlined and made faster.


Did you know that over a life time an engineer can make more money then an nfl player


Wow, that's interesting.  But, I guess that's an average player, not a Tom Brady type.  Do you have a favorite team?


Patriots are mine, what about you? Engineers can also make more then an mlb player over a lifetime


New England Patriots are my favorite team, also! Go Pats!


There are tracking chips that are located in player's shoulders pads to track them on the field


I read there are also chips placed in the balls that track various things, as well.  The NFL is getting so high tech, aren't they?


yes, Lets talk about the NBA next. Nike used to pay the fine for Jordan to wear Air Jordan's


I remember when they were banned when they first came out.  Nike had the money to pay all those fines, it didn't matter they made it all back from the exposure it gave them.  Everybody wanted a pair of Air Jordan's!


Tim duncan could have went straight to the NBA but decided to stay in college instead.


That was very smart of him to do.  Always good to have a fall back career, in case basketball doesn't work out.  The statistics are not good for the average player after leaving the game.  Within 5 years, most are bankrupt.


interesting, I dont think that will happen to Allen Iverson since he signed an endorsement deal with reebok paying him 32 million at age 55


He made one good deal!  I would like to have him negotiate for me! Lol


I agree, it also pays him 800,000 a year which sounds like a really good deal to me


I dont really. You? Reggie Miller's sister was also very good at basketball breaking 8 national records. Nice talking to you today


Hi. Yes I love watching football. How about yourself?


Sometimes I do but I have to be in the mood. It's sad that football players, even though they are successful, they suffer from depression as well.


Yes I agree. Some players have reported feeling free after retiring.


Steve Smith is known as a tough wide receiver but throughout his career he felt trapped, inferior and alone.


Yes its amazing the grip depression has over some lives.


His own words were overwhelmed and broken.


Sometimes the best thing players and others can do is to get help.


A Philadelpha Eagles great Brian Dawkins even said he was considering suicide, but thinking of methods that his family could collect life insurance on. Yeah, getting help is a must but sometimes kind of tough.


I agree. It is tough I have needed to get help myself.


Hours upon hours of counseling is sometimes needed even for NFL players


Yes, I like it better than football. How about you?


Do you ever see NBA players shoot granny style? Apparently that is actually statistically the best technique.


I can not say that I have. That would be very funny though.


I know, wouldn't it? Do you like the shoes Air Jordans?


My boyfriend loves them. He has too many pairs to even count.


They were banned when they first came out by the NBA. Jordan wore them anyway knowing he would just pay a fine every game.


I know depression affects everyone, but that really surprises me that a top NFL player struggles with it


I know, I have heard a lot about head injuries with NFL players so I wonder if it is connected


That could definitely be a part of it. It's cool that people are talking about it, even people like Michael Phelps


Yeah it's very groundbreaking for Steve Smith to speak so openly about his feelings.


Yeah, mental health awareness is important, and I agree with Brandon Marshall.


That mental health awareness is "the civil rights issue of our era" at the end of Article Section 3.


I don't have that, can you tell me about it?


It's another wide receiver in the NFL agreeing with other athletes who are coming out about mental health issues. He thinks that it is the next social problem we have to solve


Wow, that's very interesting! So many athletes seem to be speaking up lately like Michael Phelps, Kevin Love, DeMar DeRozan, Brandon Marshall, just to name a few.


I like that Steve Smith says that having depression doesn't mean there's something wrong with him. I think a lot of times people think having a mental health issue means you're broken


I know, excactly, just being open like phelps was is great


What do you think about the NFL in general? Like professional football in general?


I think it's pretty fun to watch but like I said the fact that all of these players suffer depression it makes me concerned that the players are maybe hurting themsevles!


What do you think the NFL or NBA can do about it?


I'm not sure, perhaps they can offer the players a large platform to tell people to seek help like Brandon Marshall did


Yeah, maybe they can offer them counseling, too, in a more transparent way. There's a lot of money in these leagues, I'm sure they have enough


That's true, hopefully they pay for the athletes to have insurance policies which cover all of these mental health needs.


And if coaches are talking about this stuff, too, and not just players, it could go a long way towards changing the culture


Yeah which makes sense since people in our culture in all industries like music even have been speaking a lot about mental health


Football apparently comes in different forms and names around the world.  What do you think of american football?


I like it, Im watching the Superbowl for sure this year, what do you think about the Redskins this season,


They were okay.  it was a shame that Alex Smith, the quarterback, got hurt.


Yeah I thought they were going to do better, it seems the team has a lot of determination, and it is a shame.


They have some good players and do things quietly in a way.  Adrian Peterson worked out for them and hardly anything was said.


They used to have flashy names now the team is decent, fears can always slow you down specially with all the talent out there.


True.  Alex Smith is known, he's been around 13 years, but he's not flashy if you know what I mean.


Yeah I get you, sports what team are you a fan of?


Well for the superbowl I can't really decide. I'd like to see the Rams win but then again, it'd be great to see Drew Brees win.  What about you?


I am a Patriots fan, I really like them I became a fan of the since Benjarvus Green-Ellis, so I am rooting for them in this Superbowl.


My bad a bit ago. I was still thinking of the nfc championship game.  I am pulling for the Rams to win.  did you know that green-ellis has never fumbled in his entire career?


I didnt know that, he is one of my favorite playes but didnt know that about him and what are your thoughts about the NFC championship game?


Considering the Rams player himself admitted that it should have been a penalty I think they should replay the game.  I'd like to see what would happen.  I also think they should play it out until a winner.  Let it go like back in 1916 when georgia tech defeated cumberland 222-0.


220-0 that is close score lol, I bet the other team retired from football forever.


That would be pretty bad.  So what do you think about the nfc championship game?


I thought the Saints were going to win, I was kind of rooting for them.


I had thought they would win for a while too.  It was a bit of a surprise. I also thought kansas city was going to beat the patriots.  Did you know the saints cheerleaders are not allowed to eat in the same restaurant as the players?


I didnt know that, that rule should be abolished, its unfair cheerleaders  have to leave if a player arrives.


It is unfair.  The nfl has no rule against women players though so that's fair.


Yeah I guess so although I don't see a pro team lining up a woman


I agree. A woman would have to meet eligibility requirements first.


Apparently, the NFL has no written rule against female players.  It surprised me when I heard about it.


Yeah, let 'em play as long as men can play women's sports too.  I heard the average NFL game only has 11 minutes of live gameplay.  They won't get hurt, right?


I was surprised to hear about it.  What do players do then since 11 minutes is very short?


Wait... I played in HS and they were always moving chains, officiating, time-outs, etc. Now they are going to put chips in things like shoulder pads to get even more information.


Technology is available for teams to be more efficient. Coaches are smart to take advantage of the available technology.


Yeah, but I wonder if the U. of Iowa is smart in painting the visitor's locker room pink?  It may just make them more motivated...


I would be more motivated if I were a member of the visiting teams.


Yeah.  As a dude, I don't hate the color pink.  I love ESPN's yellow 1st down line.  The best Emmy ever awarded!


I agree with you.  I cannot imagine an NFL  game without the superimposed yellow line.


It makes the game more exciting to me... Wow, former Pat' RB Green-Ellis never fumbled in his entire NFL career.


It must be very stressful to have that kind of record.  As some people say, there is always the first time.


Yeah, as a RB, that's a tall order.  My alma mater once beat Cumberland 222-0.  I'm not sure I like that...


That was amazing.  I wonder if Cumberland players were sleep walking.


I wonder if they ever played again.  I can't remember playing them when I was there.  Do you like Michael Caine.  I guess he got his start in acting by taking a drama class because it had cute girls in it.


That was funny because he is a brilliant actor.


Yes, he's cool.  So do you follow the Redskins?  I guess they have a good defense but they have their challenges too.


No, I do not follow the Redskins.  I would watch any NFL team if they were in the Superbowl.


Same here.  All NFL teams are good.  Funny, even they were sweating playing the 1-6 Giants. I guess even being good against the run may not help against certain teams.


I agree with you, all NFL teams are good.  Anyway, I need to go to bed.  It was nice chatting with you.  Good night.


Saquon Barkley and Odell Beckham Jr. make a dynamic duo for the NY Giants.


They sure do, and Odell has that crazy beef with Josh Norman as well!


Beckham Jr. has always done well against Washington DB's.  Averages 8 catches and over 100 yards per gain against them.


that is pretty impressive since the average nfl game only has 11 minutes of game!


And Barkley has so many long runs.  It's amazing what can happen in those eleven minutes.


Barkley had 7 20 yard rushes not even half way through the season, he is an animal!


Washington should do well against him.  They have stopped David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffery and Ezekiel Elliott pretty well.


That is impressive, those are some of the NFL's best!


Washington will also have to deal with Barkley's receiving skills.  He is good out of the backfield.


He sure is, and then pair that with Beckham and it can be hard to stop!


The key to stopping the Giants will be to pressure Eli Manning.


maybe if they do that they can win 222-0 like Georgia tech!


Maybe... that's stretching things.  Then again, the Redskins have Alex Smith and Adrian Peterson.


that they do, and they are a great tandem, hopefully they stay healthy!


Healthy is the key.  NFL careers are notoriously short, partly due to injury.  The average NFL player earns less in their lifetime than an engineer.


I have heard that, and engineers certainly have a safer job!


Even worse are fraternizing rules.  New Orleans Saints cheerleaders cannot eat in the same restaurant as an NFL player.  Really!


I have heard that as well, I wonder what the rationale is there?


Who knows?  Yet the NFL has no rules against female players.


that is true, I wonder what girl has come the closest to playing! maybe as a kicker?


Who knows! The university of iowa's visitor locker room is painted pink.


I love it. Im a Steeler fan. How about you.


I am  Red Skins fan, like the guy who won the contest at at Bucs game.


I like what he did, I was force to wear a Bucs shirts, but underneath there was a RedSkins shirt with the number 47.


Thats funny. Did you know the Iowa university locker room for visiting team is painted pink.


No, I did not know that, why did they do this ?


I would say to pysch the other team out. Do you think it worked.


I don't know, pink, beside being feminine, is quite a neutral color. I would have chosen to decorate the locker with clowns if it was me.


Or like a bloody nightmare on the walls. Something crazy like that would be awesome.


I think I would be almost cheating. Do you like watching football on TV ?


No it would be funny. Cheating happens on the field. Lol.


Do you think that Georgia Tech cheated when they won 222- 00 against Cumberland ?


I think that is just crazy. How could that even happen.


Maybe it was their first game. Or they did not have even a team, so cobbled something with a group of somewhat fit students.


Forget, it is too complicated, how would you feel if you won 222-00  ?


I would feel like a real jerk for running the score up so high, but I suppose I would feel accomplished about my ability to do it.


Me too, I would feel  a little proud, but if I injured myself during the game I would feel really bad, it was not worth it.


I would say if you are able to beat a team by that much. They are no match physicaly. It would probably be them who needs to be worried about injuries.


But people hurt themselves without the aid of the others team. Do you like the other kind of football, like soccer ?


Not really. I think people hurt themselves because they are giving extra effort because the other team is good.


There could be some rivalries between the players of the same team. But usually it happens in teams that are already struggling.


Hi! I really enjoy American football though my peers claim that their version of 'football' is much better, otherwise known as soccer. Do you?


I'll watch it if it is on but I'm not a huge fan. I confess I don't really understand it.


So from an 'outsider', want to take a guess at why the University of Iowa's opposing teams locker room is painted completely pink?


I'm guessing they did it as an intimidation thing since pink is considered by some to be a girly weak color.


Yeah! I wonder if it worked and whether they were able to score anywhere close to what Georgia Tech did in 1916, when they defeated Cumberland by 222 points!


Wow that seems like a complete slaughter. At what point do you just sort of give up when the points go that high?


Yeah, I think my pride would be very defeated and they probably just let them win when they realized a turnaround wasn't like to happen.


I was surprised to learn that the NFL has chips in their uniforms and the ball. I wonder what they use the data for.


My guess is to collect information and sell it to teams like what all data is used for but maybe the agents can use it to negotiate better contracts for their players.


That makes a lot of sense. I hope they are using some of it to make the sport safer for the players too. Those head injuries are just terrible.


I agree, football is such a dangerous sports and concussions definitely result from that, since ESPN won an emmy for the creation of the superimposed yellow line in games, I wonder if the researcher who makes breakthrough findings will win Nobel prize.


I'd be willing to give him one. There are so many reports of post concussion mental health issues. I don't think for the emphasis that we put on football we are doing enough to make sure that we aren't permanently damaging these young men's brains.


I agree, I actually read a book about this which delve into Aaron Hernandez, the patriots player who killed people and then committed suicide and researchers are now studying his brain. Pretty great of the family to donate his brain for science!


That is awesome. I hope that some of the research done can help the people that are still dealing with the same issues.


If you had kids or have kids, would you let them play football or other sports?


I do have kids and I want them to play sports but I worry about the impacts. I think it will depend a lot on the local leagues and what they are doing to play safe.


I know, there are so many advantages of letting kids play sports but when I read about stories, I imagine the worst. The NFL doesn't have written rules against female players from playing, but I think if a female were to play in the game, it would catch everyone's attention and be heavily publicized in the news.


I think the media would have a frenzy. It would be called radical feminism or women's empowerment. Of course all of us stuck in the middle would be like well let's see if she can whup the patriots.


Lol, considering there's only 11 minutes of live gameplay, the female would only have to survive those intense 11 minutes and try not to be tackled by those 300 pound linebackers!


That's true. I always thought that some of the female soccer players would make excellent kickers.


I do like it somewhat. I used to love the game but it's so expensive to get tickets now. How about  you? So you enjoy the game?


I do enjoy it and yeah tickets are expensive so I usually watch the games at homes with family and friends, did you watch the Superbowl?


Yes, I was pulling for the under-dog, but the Patriots are tough. What other kinds of 'football' sports have you ever seen?


I like to watch Rugby and soccer as well, rugby has a lot of different rules


I always am amazed that they don't get hurt more in rugby. I don't understand it but it is interesting especially when they get into those big huddles and push and shove!


Did you ever watch the player Benjarvus Green Ellis play?


No, who is that? A football player or a rugby player?


He is a former football players, used to play for the Patriots was a RB, well thing is he never fumbled a ball in his career


That's quite an accomplishment. I imagine a lot of quarter backs would love that stat! I think it's so funny that the University of Iowa painted their visiting team all pink. Pretty obvious psychological tactic!


That sounds like a really funny tactic lol, I guess the other teams are taken suprise by this, at least teams that dont know the locker rooms


Right! But why are we so caught up in a silly gender specific color! Since it's not against the rules, I assume some day there will be female players and then there may be lots of feminine things in a locker room! Ha.


I guess so, yeah, ESPN made a great contribution to the game with the yellow first down line,


Wow, yes! You forget how many innovations TV has brought to watching the game. Its funny that they won an emmy for it. I only think of emmys as acting awards.


Yeah me too but I guess the yellow first down line deserves the price, crazy how bowlers made more money and fooball players back in the 60s


That is funny. I bet that same thing isn't true today. NFL players make so much. Can't imagine that its even close to bowler's winnings now. TV has made a big difference in the game. Crazy that they actually only play for 11 minutes each game!


I agree tech has changed the game in some cases for worse but also for the better, did you know the players have chips embedded in their shoulders?


I guess that's how they get all those stats. I wonder if they will ever use those chips to determine whether a player steps out of bounds or actually crosses the goal line?


I bet they will in a future, the football also has tracking chips, all kinds of cool stats are taken out of them


So coaches who contest rulings, may be able to use those chips to get the calls reversed to their side?


That would be a good application for them, but maybe football should stay as is, tech can take the fun out of it sometimes


Hi, no I don't but I do sometimes. I think it is a great sport!


I am not too into it myself. Perhaps it's because there are only 11 minutes of live gameplay on average in each game.


Very true! It takes hours to watch lol, I think it's great that the nfl has no written rules against female players....


Yeah, I wonder if any women will ever meet the requirements. I just wish that people were more willing to watch women's professional sports.


Me too! I love women's sports! I think it's crazy that the New Orleans Saints Cheerleaders are never allowed to eat at the same restaurant while any NFL players are dining in!


Yeah, I wonder why that is. It's crazy how glorified football players are. In the 60s, top bowlers made twice as much as top football stars.


Wow, that is interesting, you would never think that could be true! I find it interesting too that the Nfl uses tracking chips in the players shoulder pads to record their moves on the field, I had no idea!


Yeah, it's interesting how much attention is put into technology in the NFL. Did you know ESPN won an emmy for creating the superimposed yellow line?


Really? That's awesome, it is a good invention for sure. I didn't know the NFL  merged with the AFL way back in 1966, never knew that!


Football has progressed so much. I don't think we've seen a score as bad as the Cumberland football game in 1916 where they lost 0 to 222.


Wow, that is a high score! I think it's great that Everson Griffen spoke up about his mental health issues after he took time off from the Vikings and when he came back he spoke openly about it. I think their is such stigma about mental health that was brave of him!


Yeah, it seems like a lot of NFL players battle with depression, and some of them do not want to speak up about it. Steve Smith Sr. recently talked about battling depression as well. He's one of the toughest wide receivers.


I read about that too, more and more people are coming forward about it and I think it is a good thing. Also Brian Dawkins spoke about his depression during his Hall of Fame induction speech. Great men.


He did and even other athletes have come forward about their struggles who play other sports as well, Even Michael Phelps came forward about his struggles.


Yeah, and Joe Barksdale not only came forward about suicide consideration but also about the abuse he suffered as a child.


Wow, that's amazing and brave of him to do, none of that can be easy to discuss but it helps others to seek treatment and we need that in America, NFLs Brandon Marshall has called it the civil rights issue of our era.


I agree. Griffen said that he got treatment and it was the right thing for him. Hopefully that makes others brave enough to seek treatment.


I think it already has among these athletes and hopefully this spreads the positivity to others to get help and suicide is not the answer. Very good thing these men who are looked at as invincible and strong can even have these issues...


Yeah, it is interesting to learn the men behind their tough facades.


Hi, do you have a favorite football team?


Good morning.  Yes, I do The New England Patriots.  How about you?


Same here and I can't believe the running back Benjarvus Green-Ellis has never fumbled the football not even once! That's no easy feat!


No, it's not.  I can't imagine the pressure he felt! Do you watch any Soccer?


Yeah that's immense stress! I do, sometimes, actually I think I only watch the World Cup, do you?


That's about how much I watch too.  I read somewhere that Snoop Dog wrote a fight song for his son's high school football team.  How cool is that?


That's pretty neat. I wonder how much game time the average high school football team has, it's got to be more than the NFL which only has 11 minutes of live gameplay!


I know that's true and so hard to believe.  That last Superbowl I watched was about 3 hours long.  I tell you, I was shocked to find out those humongous US flags at football stadiums weigh like 1100 pounds and cost about $50,000 to make!


Exactly, with only eleven minutes of game play and yet I devote an entire afternoon or evening to watching the games! They look very heavy but I didn't realize they were that expensive, has anyone ever tried to steal it?


IDK?  Probably be very hard to smuggle out weighing that much! lol I know NFL football is popular, but I had no idea college football was so popular, also.  14 of the world's 25 largest stadiums belong to American College football teams.


That's true too! Wow, do you have a favorite college football team? I wonder if the college cheerleaders are treated like the Saints cheerleaders where they are forbidden to eat in the presence of the football players!


Yes, my Alma Mater, University of Florida Gators.  Go Gators!  That's a weird rule they have, makes you wonder what happened to prompt that rule to be put in place?


Oh my goodness! I used to live in Jacksonville so I know what you're talking about! Exactly and how come no cheerleader has come out to speak up about it, maybe they want to avoid bad publicity but I think it's doing the exact opposite!


Me too! You know as big as NFL and college football are, there is a high school football stadium in Texas that seats 18,000 and cost $60 million to build.


I have never been to that stadium, I have been to a couple longhorns games but I don't think that stadium seats as many people as 18,000! So it's true, "everything's bigger in Texas", even stadiums!


Apparently, that is true! On a different note, do you own a car?


Yes, I do own a car and drive through the drive-thru of restaurants all the time, the drive-thru came about from McDonald's to accommodate soldiers who weren't allowed to get out of their cars while wearing their uniforms, that's a great invention!


Yeah, that was nice of Mcdonald's to do and it has revolutionized the fast food industry for sure. I just moved to Ohio, where it is cold and just found out it is illegal to warm my car up in the morning.  Isn't that crazy?


Wow, I didn't know that, so I guess car sellers can't advertise the cars come with remote start function!


It's useless up here.  I can't wait to get back to Florida.  I freeze every morning!


Lol, I hope you stay warm and I also moved from the South up to the North, I still can't get over having to shovel the driveway every morning!


I sure do. Did you know U of Iowa painted the visitor locker room pink?


Yes and I wonder if that is supposed to have some effect on the players


Good point. In the 60s bowlers made more than football players


Yeah I guess it was a more popular sport back then


Yeah. Do you know the highest score in cllege football?


Yes it was 22-0 and do you know who was playin?


Yes Georgia Tech beat Cumberland and that was in 1916


Yeah. ESPN won an Emmy once, do you know what for?


Yes it was for the superimposed yellow line


Yeah. Do you know who Benjarvus Green-ELlis is?


Yes the guy that never fumbled the ball in his career


Yes. Did you know that  football means different things in various countries?


Yes it can be Canadian or Australian football, it can be soccer or rugby


Yeah. Did you know that women can play in the NFL?


Yes there is no rule against them if they qualify


Yes. The game play in a game is actually only 11 minutes


Yes and we are glued to the tv for forever it seems


I know. Did you know engineers earn more than football players over the lifetime?


I guess their careers are longer to so maybe that helps


Good point there. Nice chatting with you


Very well, just thinking about Football. Love how its a family kind of sport. Rather watching or playing


That's so true.  Grandkids love to play and I love watching the NFL games on tv. How about you?


love watching On Tv and paying.  years ago ESPN won an emmy football. Love that it gets reconation


Yeah, ESPN won the Emmy for the creation of the superimposed yellow line representing the first down, I believe.


yes which is great. the 32 teams that the NFL consist of make it a fun creative venture to go on for TV productors


I did. I saw a commericale about a women who might become the first player in the league. Theres no rule there cant be.


That's true, I'd like to see at least one female player, maybe a pretty one.


very cool to see her take full advance of those 11 mins a  standard game last.


You know, I never realized an actual game only has 11 minutes of actual live gameplay.  I swear that Superbowl was three hours long.


all the stop and go makes it look long. only 17 weeks of play, but at times it feels like a full year


very cray, I love how they have new tech in the sport as well. Lost of tracking going on with the embedded shoulder pads


Yeah, that's pretty cool all the new technology.Kind of scary how closely every move is watched on the field.


dont like how they make so much money much like enginners


Well actually, I read somewhere that the average lifetime earnings of an engineer is higher than the average lifetime earnings of an NFL player.


yeah they do, doesnt seem like thats how it should work, but ok. They buy all the things they want witl that money. like fast cars


yes cadilac. Got that one because its a detrout made family car from the founders of the city na dits my home town


That's cool, well it's been nice chatting.  I need to get to work, I'll talk to you later, friend.


I think that Jon Gruden is a sensible loss for the team,


What do you mean by sensible loss? I think John Gruden is a huge mistake for the team.


Well I think his a good player, hard to replace, thats what I meant or at least in The Raiders team his become an important piece for the coach


John Gruden is an NFL head coach. He's not a player. The 33-13 loss to the Rams was just the beginning of a miserable season. Are you familiar with the NFL?


Oh I see, I guess Im confusing him with a player of the team, what was his name I think it was Khalil Mack, and I do follow some games what about you?


Football is one of my favorite sports and I follow all 32 teams. Khalil Mack was traded to the Bears by John Gruden for some picks. They definitely felt his absence. I don't know why they didn't just resign him.


Maybe he demanded a high salary? what is your favorite NFL team?


I like the Giants best, you?. He did demand a high salary. He's the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. I guess the Raiders tied up too much money in Carr and Gruden.


I like the Patriots best and yeah thats probably the reason then, too much money but I mean he might be worth it, theres few players with his skills in the league.


Well congratulations on the Super Bowl. Did you know the average NFL game only has 11 minutes of game play? No wonder my girlfriend gets bored.


Thanks, it was a boring Superbowl but good thing the Patriots won that cheered me up, and no, I didn't know that so out of the 3 hours a game lasts only 11 minutes are of actual gameplay? Wow


Yeah who knew? It's quite an interesting game and a big business. They use tracking chips embedded in shoulder pads now to track players. They even have them inside footballs now.


Thats interesting indeed, I wonder how that has changed the game, I bet all kinds of interesting stats are available now because of that data


ESPN actually won an Emmy for the creation of the yellow line for 1st downs on TV. The power of technology.


I guess that did change the game forever, I think it's a well deserved award.


Do you follow any other kinds of football besides American football?


I like soccer as well, in fact is one of my favorite sports, I also like rugby, what about you?


I mostly just an American football guy. Interesting that Rugby is also considered a type of football


Yeah, rules are completely different but I guess there are some similarities.


Do you remember Benjarvus Green-Ellis? He was a RB on the Patriots.


Yeah he never fumbled a ball, incredible player


I definitely am.  Watching the Super Bowl has become a family tradition.  What about you?


The same I like watching both college and NFL. Do you have a favorite team?


For college, yes, but I don't have a specific rooting interest when it comes to the NFL.  I have a feeling I end up cheering on the American Football Conference in the Super Bowl more often than not.


True, me too. My favorite college team is the Iowa Hawkeyes, have you heard of them?


It just so happens I have.  I'm a Nebraska Cornhusker fan, which makes us rivals (even if the last several years haven't gone our way).  I bet when we are the road team it's those pink visitor locker rooms that are doing us in?


yikes lol. I think it does a lot of people in. I like Nebraska football too though, probably my second favorite big ten team. The pink is a calming effect.


Hats off to you for being able to like both teams.  I guess we were separated by conferences for a long time.  At least we never had any 222-0 type outcomes on either side.  Can you imagine what Cumberland must have felt in 1916 after Georgia Tech did that to them?


Right, I think I would have quit right after the game. Or maybe after it was 100-0 lol.


Considering I have never heard of Cumberland, maybe that was it for them?  Or maybe they lasted until the 1960s when, amazingly enough top bowlers were making twice what football players were.


I can't believe that, but I guess it was more popular at that time. I wonder what the pay difference is now.


I have no idea. I bet TV had a lot to do with the shift though.  Think about all the innovation in television have come through sports.  I couldn't imagine a game without the first down yellow line and have to remember that isn't actually on the field.  I give ESPN trouble, but all credit to them for that creation which earned them an Emmy.


I love the yellow line, I used to think it was real when I was younger, glad to know it was digital lol


Maybe ESPN's tech department is filled with brilliant folks like Alex Smith who got is degree in two years!


I think they are too. And the engineers do some crazy things. Have you heard about the tracking chips they use?


I know they invest a ton of money in the game, but I'd love to hear more about these chips.


They put them in footballs and shoulder pads to track velocity, speed, and how players move around the field. Probably made by the engineers who make more money during their lifetime than the players


It's a rough sport!  It's crazy to think that just 11 minutes or so of actual game play/hitting over the course of three hours can be so damaging.


Wow they take a lot of blows so that is good it is only that long! It was so nice chatting with you!


I do! I LOVE football!! Hard to believe the NFL is made up of 32 teams.


It is harder to believe the average game only has 11 minutes of live gameplay


That is crazy! I know the NFL uses tracking chips embedded in players shoulder pads to record a players every move on the field.


They even put them in the football itself


Oh wow! That is something. It must be to track ball velocity, rotation, ball speed and location.


I hope this data will help reduce the number of injuries to players


I do too! Did you know that the first NFL playoff game was played in 1932 on an 80 yard dirt field inside Chicago stadium, the then home to the Blackhawks.


That I'm not sure of, but I know Chicago has changed a lot.


No doubt. Do you like any particular position?


I would say quarterback is one I know the most about. I know that only two african-american quarterbacks have won the Super Bowl.


I like tom brady. He is still a stellar athlete despite being around 40


He is. I agree. Did you know Kellan Moore is the only left-handed QB in the NFL?


Yes. He is definitely worth respecting since it is much harder to be left handed as a QB relatively to other sports


I can't even imagine. Superbowl winning quarterback, Brad Johnson is the only quarterback in history to throw the winning touchdown to himself!


I wonder how you would even throw the touchdown to yourself?


It had to be a recovered fumble. Did you know that QB Russell Wilson is still under contract for major league baseball?


That is why I was surprised. I should go check it out after this chat. Thanks for chatting.


How familiar are you with football and the nfl?


I don't follow pro football that much.  I was following the Saints (home team) when it looks like they were on track for another Super Bowl, but then got robbed of a victory.


But you do know that the nfl is among the top 4 major professional sports leagues in north america


Yes, it has a big draw, especially today when a lot of people are glued to their TVs for the Super Bowl.  What do you think of the quarterback match up: Patriots Brady (age 41) versus Rams Mannion (age 26)?


I think it is an interesting one, but personally rooting for Brady. I like the QB position the most since they are the core of the offense. Do you like any position in particular?


It is a battle of experience versus youth.  I am not set on any position, but it seems like in grade school football being QB was everyone's goal.  Did you know that the circular huddle was created by a deaf quarterback, Paul D. Hubbard, so the opposing team could not read his hand signals?


Yes, also kellan moor is the only left handed QB in the nfl. I wonder if that is a advantage or disadvantage.


I don't know, but doubt it.  A left handed hitter is a plus in pro baseball, but I can't see it mattering in football.  I tend to follow collegiate' s more, my alma mater LSU.  Did you know University of Iowa painted the visitor's locker room pink?  You got to wonder if it is intimidation, disrespect, good humor, or a combination of those?


I tend to follow players more than teams like green ellis who has never fumbled in his entire nfl career


I did too, Louisiana boy Terry Bradshaw, QB for the Steelers.  He is one of the reasons the Steelers have the most Super Bowl wins of any NFL team.  If you followed the NFL playoffs, you might have noticed that the NFL has a female ref, Sarah Thomas.  Do you think they will every have female players?


Well the nfl doesn't have any written rule against female players


We will have to wait and see.  Some of the traditions in football are peculiar, if not humorous.  For example, Saints chearleaders cannot be in the same resturant with any NFL player, even if they were there first.


I agree. However, I think there are some interesting things going on for the NFL, not just on the team level. For instance, they are putting chips into players shoulderpads and footballs to gather data and make better plays


I would have liked to have known the G forces the Saints receiver took in that "no call pass interference" play in the playoff game with the Rams.  What do you think of the salaries.  We know what the stars make, but not the backups and the 2nd string.  I wonder how the average salary with the short career span stacks up against other jobs?


Well the average lifetime earning of an engineer is higher than that of an nfl, but you have to remember as you pointed out the hour they work respectively.


They do earn more per hour playing, but it is a short career, often 10 years or less, while a good engineer would likely get 35-40 years of service.  You brought up the chips in shoulder pads, but other techs have also changed the game, or at least how it is viewed.  Did you know ESPN won an Emmy for the TV yellow line showing the first down position?


Well the yellow line definitely helped many viewers better digest the situation and action on the field


I agree.  With the yellow line, you can really visualize how far they need to move the ball.   It also lets the armchair QBs speculate on what plays the real QBs will call.  Most of these guys are really smart.  Did you know QB Alex Smith entered college as a Junior and was working on a Masters when he entered the NFL draft?


I agree that most of these guys are brilliant. I mean the average nfl game only has 11 minutes of live gameplay, but so much goes on in those few minutes that the espn won an emmy for helping to break it down and these players have to make the smart decision in fractions of seconds


I agree, but they also have coach to QB communications in the QB's helmet these days.  What I really don't like is when the QB is a prima donna.    They need great backs and receivers.  Like Benjarvus Green-Ellis who never fumbled in his NFL career.


I agree. In any case, I enjoy our chat about football. Thank you


Same to you.  I guess I will go man the grill for our half time feast.


I hope you enjoy your feast. Anything on the grill is always delicious.


Good morning!  Doing well!  Are you much of a NLF fan?


Friend, I tell you I feel like I have had football on the brain for the past couple of weeks!  Yes, I love football.  How about you?


Yes, I enjoy watching a good with friends and beers!  Who's your team?


Don't hate me, but my favorite team is the New England Patriots!


No hate at all - it's pretty impressive what they've done and look to continue to dominate.  By proxy, I follow the Cardinals, but don't really consider them my team - I just like good games, teams, players


That's cool.  I find most people feel towards the Patriots like they feel towards Trump.  It's usually strong feelings of hate or love, not much in between.  But, Tom Brady is the GOAT!


TB & Bilichek are definitely GOATs!  Interesting comparison to Trump - it's hard not to have an opinion!


How true.  Speaking of Tom, did you know his high school JV football coach never attempted to play him, even though the team never won a game or even scored a touchdown?


That reminds me of the story where Michael Jordan had a hard time making his HS Varsity team - some coaches cannot see greatness if it's staring them in the face!


That's a fact.  I bet they feel foolish, now?


It's amazing how far the NFL and professional sports in general have come in terms of popularity and revenue.  I've heard that pro bowlers used to make more money than football players!


That's funny, but I hear the average lifetime earnings of an engineer are more than the lifetime earnings of an average NFL player.


I think the average career in the NFL is 3 season, for the average player with a league minimum salary, so a life time career as an engineer should make more money!


Somebody's done their homework and it shows! Anyway, do you realize the NFL only has one left handed  quarterback?


Interesting - who is the lefty QB.  Is that a system thing, are lefties discouraged from QB at an early age.  I don't see what the big deal is - baseball pitchers can be both.  Does it really matter that much in football?


Kellan Moore and to tell you the truth, I don't why there are not more of them?  I would think it's an advantage.


Right!  Anything to give a different look, roll the other way.  Once the ball is in the air, whats the difference.  I need answers from the NFL!


Congrats on another Lombardi Trophy!  It was a strange playoff season, but great win for the Pats - great chatting with you today, really appreciate it!


Thanks, friend.  It was nice chatting with you as well.  Enjoy the rest of your day.


I like it,  I dont watch it too much though.


I watch all the time. My wife is not happy about my sports adiction though. My favorite team is the bears. Do you have a favorite team?


I like the 49ers.  did you know the NFL puts tracking chips on the players and football?


I put chips in my belly. Does that count?


lol absolutely!  I had no idea alex smith was so smart,  He took so many ap tests, he entered a university as a jounior.


Chicago hosted the first playoff game in 1932 on an 80 yard dirt field.


Thats cool.  That was a long time ago lol


Yeah. Did you know there's a $60M stadium in Texas? FOR HIGH SCHOOL?


Thats insane.  Football generates a lot of money in texas though lol not much to do.


I could not imagine being so rich I donated to the construction of a $60M HS football stadium. Im just trying to keep my lights on.


lol the struggle is real.  I cant believe that the average nfl game has only 11 min of game play.


I feel like there are too many commercials and replays and measurements.


Yeah,  too much fluff.  and whats with all the time outs and fouls and huddles.  Football can take so much time.


Maybe that's why i usually drink too much watching the games.


lol i think thats why we all drink too much, we are waiting to watch the game lol


At least I am not the only one! Although I am usually the only one watching football and drinking.


Did you know the average lifetime earning of an engineer is higher than football players and mlb players?  That is probably not including like sponsorship and extras though right?


Agreed. But I also think the lower end of the spectrum's avg career is like 2 years.


Thats cool.  Its been great chatting with you.


Much of a football fan?  Interested in Redskins or Buccaneers?


Only if they have a female player on their teams.


We may be out of luck on that one.  I lived in DC for a number of year, so some would thin I have an interest in DC winning.


I'm a New Orleans native, and won't support the Saints, until they get rid of that archaic rule regarding cheerleaders being in the same restaurants as the players.


Agreed, I really don't like the whole cheerleader thing.  I have a young daughter and would hate for her to want to be a cheerleader.


Mine doesn't cheer, as I don't like the culture. My son's girlfriend plays football for their school, she's their kicker. I'm surprised no NFL team has a woman kicker.


Well there is no rule against it.  I'm sure there would be a lot of fuss in the media for a few weeks, and then once she played it would be forgotten.  I know in UK soccer they have women referees, once they started doing it everyone got over it.


Do they also have tracking chips in their balls over there/


Probably, I know most big sports leagues track just about everything the players do, always looking for that edge.


Thats insane. I think it's invasive, and wouldn't want a tracker in my shoulder pads, if I were a player.


I think the compensation football players get now would allow me to get over it.  Although I think we assume most players are set for life after a career, it might not be true.


Maybe. I still can't believe ESPN won an Emmy for that superimposed yellow line. Must have been a bad year, if they won for that.


I suppose if you are really into the game it matters to you, remembering a number in your head can be difficult.  I remember my son wondering how the line moved on the pitch when he was really young.


It's interesting that Baker Mayfield thought about becoming a pro gamer. I wonder how that would have worked out for him.


I've been hearing more and more about pro gaming, apparently there is money in in now.  Colleges have started offering scholarships for e-sport league players.  Not sure how I feel about that, I guess it's safer than football.


He is a Halo 3 guru, I guess. If they are at that level, then they probably make more than what a scholarship is worth. I know some of the pros make millions.


I wonder how long a pro gamer career lasts?  If it's not longer than a football players they will run into the same issue where a regular career pays more than a short sports career.


I suppose as long as their reflexes hold out. It's funny, pro bowlers used to make more than pro football players.


I think a pro bowling career might last a little longer, doesn't seem much chance of injury. ESPN needs to come up with an innovation for bowling, its very repetitive.


Guess you have a point, I still don't understand how you can turn 11 minutes of play into three hours of TV.  It's been good chatting to you.


I don't understand that either, any more than I understand why there is only one left handed quarterback. It's been fun, have a good one.


Hello! I hope you like football! Because I am ready to talk about football!  Do you ilke football?


I am so ready to talk about football lol. I love it it! Do you like NFL or college more?


I love any type of football! association football (known as soccer in some countries), Australian rules, rugby football! But the good ol' National Football League (NFL) might be my favorite!


I can't believe there are so many different sports called football though. Who is your favorite NFL team?


With 32 teams, it's hard to pick! Who do you like?


I'm a Vikings fan but I like watching the Broncos since I live in Colorado Springs. Can you believe there is only 11 minutes of live gameplay?


Wow, just 11 minutes? Is that it? I know the NFL uses tracking chips embedded in shoulders to track players moves. That's a lot of work for just 11 minutes of live play!


It makes the data analysts job very easy I'm sure haha. ESPN even won an emmy for that yellow first down line!


They sure are an innovative league! Did you know there is even a rocket scientist coaching in the NFL?!


It is! He was an aeronautical engineer before coaching in the NFL! His school, RPI, even had the words "sin", "cosine", and "tangent" in their fight song!


Oh wow! I'm not smart enough to even go to those football games! It would be interesting to see that 222-0 football game in 1916 though!


Yeah! I do like the entertainment thought. You know, we talked about fight songs a minute ago; did you know that Snoop Dogg wrote a fight song for his son's high school football game!?


I bet that jumped to the billboard charts after being written huh? lol that is funny!


I thought so too! You know, even high school football is really popular. There is a high school football stadium in Allen, Texas with 18,000 seats!


Didn't it cost 60 million dollars? That is insane, I bet the teachers are still underpaid there too!


Yup! That's the one! So much money is spent on football! Did you know that those humongous American flags at football stadiums cost $50,000 to make!?


It is cool to see but that is a lot of money! I hope it goes to a good cause! Anyways, great chat have an awesome day!


Indeed! And those flags weigh 1,100 pounds! Go big or go home, as they say! Good bye!


Are you a football fan?  Do you have a favorite team?


I'm a Steelers fan too!  I live right on the Ohio/PA line.  Did you know that there is only 1 left handed QB in the NFL - Kellan Moore.


I did know that. You would think there would be more.


I know.  What do you think of the NFL using tracking chips in the players shoulders and in the footballs?


I think its an amazing technology. The things they can do these days.


I know.  I just wonder though what exactly those chips do.  Like ...could they read where other chips are on the field?  ..and if so...could a chip in the shoulder pads of a wide receiver be programmed to the chip that's in the football making the football come to the receiver's chip location?


That's interesting to think about. I bet belichek has already checked into that.


hahaha  An average NFL game has only 11 minutes of live gameplay.  Crazy when they make it stretch out to over 3 hours.


I know right. They get all that money for 11 minutes worth of entertainment.


it pays to be an engineer as their lifetime earnings are higher than that of the lifetime earnings of an average NFL or MLB player.


Yeah but I think it would be a lot more fun to play football for a living.


I'm with you there!  lol  In the 1960's top bowlers made twice as much as top football stars.


I think the players union has rectified that situation.


Yes! lol  I wonder why the University of Iowa painted their visitors locker room pink?  Probably to mess with the team. lol


To mess with the visiting team. Do you think it worked.


I don't think so. lol  How about the highest scoring game ever when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland in 1916 by a score of 222-0!


They were just rubbing it in that last 200 points huh.


lol Poor Cumberland.  Did you know that the circular huddle was created by a deaf QB so the other team couldn't steal his hand signals?


Yeah and the huddle has become so engrained into football. Its hard to think of the game without it.


I know right?  It was fun chatting with you!


Hi.  Do you like the NFL and the Ravens?


Same here.  I guess Lamar Jackson is back (or has been back)... SO many injuries in the NFL.


Im a steelers fan and we play them twice a year. I promise you Im not worried about lamar Jackson.


Ha.  I see... I'm a Chiefs fan and I'm not losing any sleep. I think the Ravens would do better if they could the players out of jail.  I didn't know the Saints had an 8-1 record.


Jackson can run but he cant throw at all. You all got a pretty good QB up there in KC tho


Yeah, Mahomes is a great surprise.  If he stays healthy, he'll give Brady a run for his money, career stats-wise.


Brady will be out in the next few years. I would say staying healthy and not falling off like a lot of guys do after one good year is his main concerns.


Yes, I agree... Maybe he'll be like Luck and avoid those sacks.  Hope so, I'd hate to see him go and he's so young.


To be honest the chiefs scare me more than the patriots do at this point.


Yeah, I was surprise to see that Rams come out on top.  I think the Pats are going downhill.


I sure hope so. Im sick of them. Lol. Did you know that there is a rocket scientist coaching in the nfl.


I did not.  Is he doing well?  I can't believe that or that there is only 11 average minutes of gameplay in an NFL game.


His name is mat patrecia. Im not sure who he coaches.


I'm not sure those are transferable talents... Nor do I think painting a visitors locker room pink is going to do anything at the U. of Iowa.


Yeah I dont see that doing much. It would make a good team laugh and who cares what it does to a bad team. Lol.


I played in HS and on away games we used the girls locker rooms.  It had no effect although I did break a Barry Manilow album after a loss.  I regret that... We did have a circular huddle thank to a deaf QB of yesteryear.


That huddle has grown into a major part of the game.


Yeah... I don't remember Alex Smith being so smart or being a 1st round draft pick...


I think he was drafted by the patriots wasnt he. I didnt think he was a first rounder either.


This article I read says he was a first rounder in 2005 - doesn't say to whom.  Thanks for the chat and good luck to the Steelers.


Hello, did you happen to watch the Superbowl yesterday?


I did, I thought it was a good game, both teams had strong defenses I think Tom Brady did a good job even though he finished as the third most valuable qb


Both defenses did play good. Who were the two QBs more valuable than Tom Brady?


Im not sure but if had to gues I would say Aaron Roders and Drew Brees.


I see. Are you talking about the super bowl or the entire season?


Im talking about the entire season, I think he might go up to second or first with his performance last night, he threw a great pass for the only touchdown


But there were not passing touch downs last night.


I know, but the pass that was almost a touchdown, thats the one im refering to.


I see. Yes that was a very good pass. Not many QBs could make that throw.


Yeah, too bad it wasnt a touchdown though, so close just a few more yards, so what is your favorite NFL team?


The Dallas Cowboys. I've been watching them since I was a little kid. How about you?


My favorite team is the Patriots so I had a pretty good time last night, how did the Cowboys do this season?


That's awesome. It's always nice when your favorite team wins the championship. The Cowboys won their division but lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs this year.


Thats too bad, maybe next year they will make it, you know the saints have this unfair rule and if a cheerleader is at a restaurant and a player goes to the same place she must then leave


Really? That's a pretty crazy rule that I  have never hard of. Did you also know that Brad Johnson is the only QB to ever throw  touchdown pass to himself?


How is that possible lol, I might have to look for that strange fact in YouTube later, I wonder how the pass went


It was near the goal line and when he threw the ball it was deflected by a lineman but went right back to him. He caught it and ran it in. Was pretty crazy.


It must have been great and really usual since he is the only one to have done that, I dont know were the fact of the 11 minutes of gameplay comes from, it sure seems like a game is a lot longer and the clock is always paused.


Yeah it would seem like a lot longer than 11 minutes to me as well.


Yeah, football sure is a beautifull game too bad the season is now over.


Hello there I do watch it, how about you?


I love watching it. Do you watch both college and NFL? Who are your teams?


Me too, I love Aaron Rodgers. I am an Iowa Hawkeye fan, did you hear that they paint their locker room for the other team pink


I heard about that, that is too funny, and I guess it's proven to help the other team relax.


right, I think it has worked, they have beat quality teams at home. Did you know there is no rule against females playing in the league


I think I heard that, I think it would be very cool to see a female player make a roster and play.


Right, I heard there may be a female kicker going to play college football somewhere, that would be neat


Yeah it sure would be, even if it was just kicker to start.


for sure, that would open up a lot of opportunities. Did you hear about the Saints cheerleader rule?


I think so, the one where they would have to leave a place if members of the team show?


yea that is pretty sexist in my opinion. That makes the female potential in the nfl take a step back, my opinion


Yeah I would have to agree with you there, seems dumb to me to be honest.


Yeah I watch some college but not very closely, always seems like the same schools, how about you?


same, just the Hawkeyes mostly. Did you hear about the game in 1916 that ended 222-0


I heard about that wow!  I wonder how many of the fans of the opposing team were still in the stands at the end?


I wonder if they still had a football program after that lol! I would have quit once the score got to be like 100-0


Yeah they just cancel the whole program lol, and how did they even score that many? You can't even score that much in Tecmo Super Bowl.


Right lol, that is so crazy. I feel there should have been a mercy rule created after that game lol. It was very nice chatting with you!


Yeah. What do you think about vontaz burfict.


I think that was a low shot, hitting Antonio Brown like that, what are your thoughts?


I thought it was really low. He does it all the time too only good part was that it cost his team the game. .


It did, I bet his teamates were upset because of this, it was late in the game so yeah, serious consequences


Thats not  sport friendly, there was no flag on the play I dont think a suspension is a likely thinng the Steelers won 28-21


So what do you think will there ever be a womean in the nfl


I dont think so, theres no rule against that but I think its unlikely, what do you think?


Just think the first time a woman got seriously hurt. It would not go over to well in the media.


What do you think about the 11 minutes of live gameplay?


I think the game shouldnt last 3 hours with only 11 minutes of gameplay.


I have the same thoughts, seems like an insult for fans and for viewers, too many adds, too many interruptions


Yeah. I can understand the super bowl taking longer but not regular season games.


I agree, it does take a long time, the NFL uses tracking chips


I know they have them in the players shoulder pads as well as in the footballs.


Yeah the chips in the footballs allows us to tell track, velocity, rotation, ball speed


Its such a good invention. We get a bunch of new stats from it.


I agree a lot of interesting stats, tech is taking over sports,


Well have a good one. I gotta get off here.


Hello.  Have you ever heard of Baker Mayfield?


Yes I have! Did you know he actually came close to quitting football in order to pursue a competitive gaming career? Glad he didn't as I would guess football is much more lucrative!


I did hear that and I'm glad he didn't too!  It surprises me though in a way to picture him being so good at video games. In another way I'm not because he is very competitive.


That is true. But you know what really surprises me? I can't believe there's only one left handed QB in the NFL and that's Kellan Moore. I figured there'd be far more left handers!


I've never actually noticed but it just seems like there should be.  Maybe there will be more quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes.  I think he can throw with either hand.


Maybe so! I wonder if the deaf guy named Paul. D. Hubbard who created the circular huddles used today to keep opposing teams from reading his hand signals was left handed?


I don't know.  I think it's neat that there used to be a deaf quarterback and I wonder why there's none in current times.  The huddle is a smart way to protect his conversations though!


Indeed it is. Since we're on the subject of quarterbacks, do you like Tom Brady? I bet his old JV high team still kicks themselves to this day for refusing to start him when he was a backup despite never winning a game or scoring a touchdown that season. It's kind of sad, really.


Oh wow! i bet they do too!  That coach may not even coach anymore after realizing what a mistake he made.  I wonder why he just wouldn't give the backup a chance when clearly the starter was not doing so good.


It's a mystery, isn't it. But coaches sometimes make back decisions. I tell you what I often wonder is why we haven't had a female player drafted yet. Females are allowed to play as long as they meet the eligibility requirements, believe it or not!


I guess they haven't tried or been able to meet requirements.  I've seen a few female players, mostly kickers, on the news and other shows.  I know there is a female ref and I think an assistant coach of some kind now.


Is there really? I mean, since the average game is only 11 minutes in terms of live gameplay, you'd think we would have at least seen a female kicker by now, right?


The nfl is slow moving on some things.  Just look at the New Orleans Saints. They have a rule for the cheerleaders that if they are at a restaurant and a player comes in they have to leave.


That is hard to believe and I can't believe lawsuits haven't been filed yet unless it's just some silly voodoo superstition or something? Either way, in terms of money, women would be better off becoming engineers since they make more than the average lifetime earnings of both MLB and NFL players anyway.


Wow, that really surprises me. I mean, some of these contracts players get are so extreme!


Hey, even crazier, back in the 1960s, the top bowlers made more than the top football players. That is so depressing considering how rough football is compared to how easy bowling is.


I guess people weren't that into football back then like they are now.  Now ESPN wins an emmy for creating a yellow line to show where the first down is during the game.


That is true and that yellow line is so innovative. I couldn't watch a game without it today! But thankfully people are more into football today as I couldn't see a bowler making more than Benjarvus Green-Ellis who's never fumbled the football in his entire pro career. That would be plain wrong!


That would be wrong and I like that line too. It makes the game more intense and exciting when you know just how far a team has to go.  Do you watch any college football games?


I do like to watch college football. But I feel sorry for those teams who play Iowa at their stadium and have to sit in a pink lockerroom. I'm not sure if that's good or bad for the University of Iowa. Ha! What about you?


I love college football! I think it's better than the NFL actually.  Have you ever heard about the Georgia Tech/Cumberland game of 1916?  If not, check it out when you have time.  I've got to go. It's been great chatting with you!


I don't really have a favorite. I like a few on both sides, the nfc and the afc.  What's your favorite?


I like the Giants, Eli Manning is struggling, but I believe that he will come back.


Maybe, a lot of people say it's all on Eli but I think it's a team thing. Their offense, not just him, has had trouble performing lately.


He did improve, he made changes in his personal life, but the results are not there....


What kind of changes did he make?  When they played the Saints he made 31 of his 41 passes but they still lost the game. That just tells me there's problems with other players.


He was benched in 2017, so maybe he had issues with his coach.


Yeah, I remember that.  I wonder if part of the issue is his age. He is 37 now.


Yeah, He has to get better if he wants to ends his career on a high note, like when Georgia tech won 222-0.


True.  Is that that game from back in the early 1900s?


Yeah, it was a long long time ago, against Cumberland. How would you feel if you were on the losing team ?


If I were Cumberland I would feel terrible, demoralized.  Then again, maybe people just really didn't care all that much about football back then.  In the 60s bowlers made twice as much as football players.


I think I would just laugh it off, there is nothing to learn from a 222 point defeat.


You can learn that your defense needs a great deal of work as well as the coaches because whatever game plan the coaches came up with clearly did not work.


Yeah, do you like watching football on TV ?


I do.  Hey, do you think Cumberland should have painted their locker rooms pink like the University of Iowa does?


Maybe, it could not have been worse. Do you think there is too much advertisement in football, there is only 11 minutes of live game play in a  game.


Yes I do.  It seems like they go to commercial after every down practically.  What do you think about women becoming players?


I think it is a good idea, but is it feasible, they they have the physical strength to compete with men ?


I don't know.  I know there's no rules against them playing if they can meet requirements.


Yes I do. DO you know that Kellan Moore is the only left handed QB?


WOw cool. Do you like Brady of the Patriots?


Yes I do, he is a good player, is he your favorite?


One of them yes. In high school he was a back up QB and never got started


Wow their loss I guess. Brad Johnson once threw himself a touchdown shot


Exactly, that is why he is the only guy in history to have done that


Yeah I guess so. ALex Smith finished college in two years only


Nice, he must be smart. Did you know Russell WIlson is still under contract though he is not playing regularly?


Wow that is interesting. Yes Alex was smart but he also took lots of ap tests in high school and managed to move fast


Great planner too. Snoop dog once wrote a song for his son's team


Nice. U of Iowa painted the visitor locker room pink


I wonder if that is supposed to have some effect on the players


I wonder too. In the 60s bowlers made more than the football players


I guess football was not that popular back in the day as bowling was


True. DO you know the highest score in college football is 222-0?


Wow what, when was that and who was playing?


Yes it was Georgia Tech who beat Cumberland in 1916


Do you like football? my favorite player is the quarterback


i like football. the player i hate the most is the quarterback


Why is that? what position do you like better?


i like defense. defense is most important on the field. they must be the toughest, the roughest, the best.


I agree, a QB is no good without a solid defence, so yeah they are really important


i figure that a good coach knows the value of defense in stopping those pesky qbs. the QB is a target. the QB is a meal the QB is for eating.


There are some great QB out there, even the best ones get sacked


I like sacking QBs! They never see it coming because they're behind the line.


Thats why they must have a great defensive line, do you know who Baker Mayfield is?


He is a QB, he considered quitting football and become a pro gamer, apparently he is really good at Halo 3


he probably should stick to video games. that is the safe bet. career is much longer.


I agree, you can get really injured by playing football then theres also the brain damage,


the brain damage from video games is pretty bad too. i had a friend that played them too much. ended up about a simple as a retired player.


Really? I didnt know about that, but it makes sense, playing video games that long can have negative consequences for sure


the brain is a fragile organ, not designed to withstand hours of banal stimulation and entertainment. there should be a warning label on games about cognitive impairment.


There should be, but I doubg that will stop gamers, did you hear abouut the QB that created the circular huddle?


i have not heard that joke. whats the punchline?


Not a joke lol, he was a deaf QB that invented the huddle so that the other team wouldnt read his signals


oh, ok, that is cool. i thought you were telling a joke. he invented the huddle? the guy is a legend. anyway, great chat!


Very good.  Did you see the Super Bowl last Sunday.  As usual the AFC and the NFC champs squared off on the first Sunday of February?


Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to watch. What about you?


Yes.  Tom Brady was the winning QB again.  The average NFL game only has 11 minutes of live gameplay.  But those are a strenuous 11 minutes.


On a per-minute basis, they get paid pretty well. There is no rule against women in the game. What do you think: will we have women any time soon?


Maybe a kicker someday.  Probably for publicity purposes mainly.  Since there are 32 teams, each year there are 31 losers.


A kicker, or a punter, I agree. There is only one left-handed quarterback in the NFL: Kellan Moore. There are many left-handed pitchers. Why so few lefty QBs?


Left handed pitchers are hard for left handed batters to hit.  I was an assistant scout for the Phillies in years past.  However, a pass from a lefty in football spins the opposite way and is a little difficult to defend if you don't see it often.