SCHEMA:
CREATE TABLE table_name_9 (runners_up VARCHAR, winners VARCHAR, years_runner_up VARCHAR)
USER:
How many runners up for the team with under 1 win and a Years runner-up of 1985 , 1996?

QUERY:
SELECT runners_up FROM table_name_9 WHERE winners < 1 AND years_runner_up = "1985 , 1996"