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+{"title": "What date is today ah?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vl6aa/what_date_is_today_ah/", "num_comment": 47, "flairlabel": ["Meme Monday"], "header": "HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!", "comments": [["For Malaysian memes every day of the week, please check out c/memeeveryday at our sister community monyet.cc! (why?)\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns."], ["Not sure of the format. but i geddit :29091:"], ["Can't wait till 3A/3April/2023A"], ["Peterrr helppp i dont get ittt", "Chinese word for 4 is bad luck.", "Wasnt it death?", "It is, that's why is bad luck or bad omen", "Thanks", "It is death, that'd be why in chinese hotel you will not find level 4, there are only level 3 and 3A for the 4th floor"], ["Drake Hotline Bling Meme", "*starts playing the Arabic remix"], ["32/12/2023"], ["Was wondering what does it mean... lampi betul hahahaha. Happy new year everyone!"], ["2024 babyyyy, hasta la muerte", "I meannn Japan is currently having an earthquake", "They have earthquakes on a yearly if not monthly basis my guy."], ["Chinese Sci-fi\nin the far far future of 3A3A3A3A, Human falls to google who then falls to tiktok who then fall to Bing, truly a fate worse then death"], ["I hope by 203A3A, I have a kid who's finished high school with flying colors.... but I'm getting waaay ahead of myself\nAnyway, Selamat Tahun Baru, semua\u2764\ufe0f"], ["curious, did the same meme ran for 2013A?"], ["2023A is the lawak tandas of this year NYE celebration", "it's funny"], ["4/4/2024...", "3A/3A/2023A"], ["Mengarut."], ["2023 called and asked for the joke back.\nGuys, it's already stale, 4 isn't something we Chinese get fussed that much lah, 3A or 4 is just a preference. We deal with it instead of protesting and screaming agenda Yahudi.", "I thought it wasn't a big deal as well until people started having level 3A and 13A in buildings. That much work is a big deal.", "You know I've seen a big tauke demand they paint a wall red because he wanted it despite ruining the facade?", "what's your point?", "Things like these are usually the decision from one fella. Tauke no like, so change.\nBut most of us can deal with it, the reason why they put 3A is because they want to make sure the 4th floor sells out. That's all.", "so people might not buy if the floor was labeled as 4th?", "Some people won't.", "OK then it's not the tauke's decision. He's just listening to the market.\nIt seems to be a big deal to some people, and a big deal enough for the tauke to go through all that trouble.", "Both lah, tauke can be annoying AF with unreasonable demands, and also having 3A means 4th floor can be easier to sell.\nBut, I'd be happy to bet money you'll see Chinese living in 4th floor anyway. Some of us mind, some of us don't", "fair enough", "Haha cina scare 4:26561:", "Haha Yahudi coming to take your rights. /s"], ["lol. Happy New Year, Happy 2024 ! Let's Go !!!"], ["I remember joking that i will respond to a scene with a 444 patch on my arm, lets just say I got the desired reaction form my cina friends"], ["I gotta say, being afraid of puns is pretty much a solid reason to never judge others' beliefs.", "Agreed. Likewise, being afraid of crosses is also a solid reason to never judge others' beliefs, or concert, or wishing merry Christmas, or national language being used in forbidden stuff", "being afraid of crosses is dumb\ud83e\udd23\nnice strawmanning"], ["Only in China"], ["1/1/2023 Part2"], ["LMAO i'm chinese but it took me a solid 5 seconds to get it... happy new year!"]]}
+{"title": "Tony Pua\u2019s take on learning Jawi in school", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vtlvc/tony_puas_take_on_learning_jawi_in_school/", "num_comment": 157, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Khat issue was probably DAP\u2019s worst managed PR crisis. Got called both race traitors and anti-Malay throughout the whole thing while MCA, Dong Zong, and Mandarin newspapers just continued fanning the fire\nDAP had its share of gaffes in 2023 but, credit to Anthony, are all better managed than that.", "I always tell people that MCA was behind all this- and got the Mandarin papers & Dong Zong to be in cahoots with them. They made hell load of noise during PH1.0 rule.\nProof? After the Sheraton Move, all the noise from MCA stopped. DZ said that the matter has \"been settled internally\". UMNO, PAS & Bersatu (kononnya terpaling Melayu Islam) pun didn't bother to put it back in the textbooks.\nThe terpaling Cina MCA and terpaling Meu UMNO & PAS played mind games with us just to sabotage DAP and PH. Damn bloody smart.", "I can\u2019t stand with Dong Zong. Look at the textbook of UEC, bunch of outdated materials.\nWe could expect this as MCA need to get the attention from DAP. They need to do that for survival. Plus LGE fumes with the TARUC fund.\nLuckily LGE is no longer Sec general for DAP. He really should retire after his pathetic performance in Ministry of Finance. But look at current politics in Penang, CKW is really got attacked by him and his fellow.", "LGE fumes with the TARUC fund.\nTbh, what LGE propose was actually right, by right a educational institution should not be control by a political party. He say time and time again, that the intention was the allocated fund will be managed by the University board of trustee rather than MCA board.\nIn the end, the fund was still given regardless no? But the narrative that Guan Eng did not give money to TARUMT still persist to this day."], ["I dont know if this in an unpopular opinion or not but honestly, the whole Jawi fiasco and the people who are against it is so stupid. Jawi is just a writing form just like Latin and Kanji. My dad took some Jawi lessons at school and we're still Indian Hindus cause me and my family aren't insecure to our religion. I personally had some of my Malay friends thought me and my friends to write Jawi as a past time and we in return teach them Tamil and Chinese scriptures. There's nothing wrong learning Jawi as it is just another way to write Malay and it has nothing to do with religion. However, that being said, I feel our education system should focus on bigger issues such as the use AI in homework and projects, the lack of students entering science stream, the outdated exam formats we have and many more.", "As a non-Muslim bumiputera (who has a casual interest in learning languages) I feel the same way too.\nI think the reason why so many people were against it was largely due to misunderstanding and ignorance of what Jawi actually is, and its value as part of not only Malaysian but Nusantara heritage. A lot of people think that Jawi = Arabic language/Islam/etc, but it is in fact just the Malay language written in a modified Arabic script. It's just like writing Malay in other scripts, e.g. katakana or hangul.\nThe more important question is how the syllabus should be handled. This should be made clear to everyone, especially those who are less familiar with what Jawi really is.", "However, that being said, I feel our education system should focus on bigger issues such as the use AI in homework and projects, the lack of students entering science stream, the outdated exam formats we have and many more.\nExactly", "...There's nothing wrong learning Jawi...\n...I feel our education system should focus on bigger issues...\nYou think the issue is stupid but you've basically surmised why people don't see the point of adding it to our education system.\nThe only benefit this'll have is for nons to (somehow) become more buddy buddy with the Muslims; go find another way to achieve that mate.", "I almost never used cursive writing. Was I forced to do it? Yes. Do I hate that I was forced to do it? Not really. Do you also think extracurricular activities are a waste of time? Jawi is a significant part of our nation's history whether people like it or not.", "Wait exams format are outdated? I dont agree. Its just a small aspect of exams but I think KBAT/HOTS question is one of the best exam system out there. The fact that there is no right or wrong answer, and it gives you the most point.", "Maybe I should've worded it correctly. What I meant to say is that our education system is only exam focus and not concentrating on other areas like practical educations as well as teachers teaching students how to answer the paper instead of learning something at school. I have already forgotten certain things I learned in SPM already.", "Why the fuck should we learn something that is not beneficial when we have our fair share of useless subjects in school already. Teach students what they need to know instead of this nonsense.", "Saying that a writing system of a national language that is in a significant part of Malaysia's history and still used today as \"nonsense\" is exactly why some rural Malays have distrust against a particular group of people", "If they make it as an optional class or after school event, it might be a better solution.\nLike after school 1 hour to learn basic Jawi, all race from all religion can join.\nI as a non-Muslim and non-Malay will join the class lol.", "The reason to learn it is mostly because it's still being used. Not all malays are fluent in reading jawi either. The main point to learn is to at least have a basic knowledge to read it. I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge. Learning jawi for me is just like learning idiom or pantun or formal writing format or art or kawad kaki. Not everyone really uses all the knowledge that we learn at school but it will be useful at some point either directly or indirectly. I also don't think it's that difficult, put 1 chapter about introduction and basics of jawi in buku teks BM darjah 5 and settle. Move on and forget about it.", "Can't reply to the other comment but jawi is obsolete and has been replaced by rumi. At best, it's basically like calligraphy so I don't see the point of it. To learn a language, you need consistent use of it. Learning it simply from the textbook is not going to work. I remember back then they had sign language in the BM textbook and nobody can remember them after a month because it's not used again.", "Jawi is not a language.", "Jawi is not obsolete. It is still being used in certain official documents. Legal documents written in Jawi are valid for usage in official matters without having to be translated or transliterated.", "It's fun, pretty, part of the nation's heritage and can help with picking up Arabic. If you had to optimise what kids learn in school, probably can remove art, music (lower median salary) or kemahiran hidup (can hire/buy services) or history (they're not living in the past!).\nLest we forget it's for them to become more well-rounded humans, not just productive cogs.", "Agree 100%. Politicians only need local or 3R issue to goreng. Main reasons they dont mingle with outside world to know how backward we are.", "this 10000%", "Why do you think that 3 pages of jawi can apparently teach you the point where you can fluently write Jawi. It's essentially just \"btw those jawi word in our bank notes meant this and that\" THATS IT. It's not an entire chapter dedicated to forcing to be fluent in learning the language."], ["Chinese here. I do think learning it is great. Heck, to learn new stuff is always welcomed. But, it's better for education to focus more on improving what we have, not to let us lag behind other countries year after year. The addition of Jawi is nice, even better if the actual improvement is focused for our overall system.\nEdit : https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/12/06/drop-in-pisa-scores-worldwide\nLink showing our lag in the education matter. It's bad. We've fallen each year since 2016 if you look deeper into the thing.", "I think it's great to learn new language but if the education system is failing then it pretty much like adding fuel into fire.", "It needs an overhaul. The system failed cause they tune down the difficulty year after year to accommodate the scores. eg; how many pass the exams per year. We are now ranked way below average worldwide. We are on average 3 years behind in comparison to Singapore. Meaning budak sekolah kita dajah 4 sama dengan dajah 1 di Singapore. Malu tak? Don't need to be like Singapore cause they are really kinda nuts, but at least we need it to be better to not lead to the situation now. A 3 year gap is a jaw dropping situation.", "And also it quite surprising that even Vietnam managed to beat us hell even ukraine a country in middle of a war can still perform better than us.", "They put effort into it. Not Nampak budak gagal, kita buatkan senang supaya nampak cantik. Tapi minta ku ajar betul betul tu susah sangat. Ubah score kan senang je.\nTo hit their quota to look good, they did this. Vietnam and Ukraine education have the foresight to look further ahead. We Malaysians are labeled as dumb kids. Ehh ace student from Malaysia? Pfft, must be a joke.\nThe statistics show. So now if you get a degree, it's normal to get out done by others from other countries applying for the same job. Or to say, entering higher education schools like masters or whatnot. And your salary will definitely be lower too, cause you're labeled as meh.", "except its not a language. just a different writing system. i can read it better than most people but its only been \"useful\" when this subreddit has those posts about ads from the 90s talking about guinness beer being advertised in Jawi", "Yupe, you are correct. I should have known better.", "Saya cina share the same views. No issue on Jawi. Just another language. Should make it as available as bahasa cina and bahasa tamil", "Not exactly new language. Its another form of writing for Bahasa Malaysia. Kinda like Romanise hanyu pinyin and hanzi. So learning it should be under BM class rather than under Islamic religious class.", "As many mentioned here, Jawi is a form of script/writing, not a new language. It's like arabic but with some additional letters to support Malay language. I guess PH failed big time when they can't even explain that to the masses.", "Jawi is just letters, its not a language. You wont understand arabic, you wont learn Islam.\nI think you probably can learn it a month or so. I don't know the correct term, but jawi is just like katakana, meaning it doesnt have vowels accept maybe for \"A\" and \"I\"\nMy point, the fear of jawi was from the lack or understanding, due to PH failure to properly explain / market it. Its just fancy latters so we seem I dont think it will effect our PISA or whatever.", "But jawi can unite us like captain america in the avengers end game movie and everything will eventually become fine after that \\s", "The reason to learn it is mostly because it's still being used. Not all malays are fluent in reading jawi either but the main point to learn is to at least have a basic knowledge to read it. I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge. Learning jawi for me is just like learning idiom or pantun or formal writing format or art or kawad kaki. Not everyone really uses all the knowledge that we learn at school but it will be useful at some point either directly or indirectly. I also don't think it's that difficult, put 1 chapter about the introduction and basics of jawi in buku teks BM darjah 5 and settle. Move on and forget about it."], ["there are a lot of invested parties in malaysia, nons and malays alike whose goal is to keep people separated.", "Pecah dan perintah, the only people benefited are the one up there, while the others fighting with each other like a moron.", "Better to keep it separated if people equal unity with cultural genocide.\nMaking the whole population Muslim is not unity.", "Found the Chinese uncle", "And you thought that is an insult.\nWhat a pity creature.", "tag MCA"], ["There is no issue learning JAWI, as long the government can guaranteed Jawi is not linked to Islam and there is no restriction on JAWI usage.\nLike if I want to translate the entire Bible, Torah, or other religion holy book to Jawi, there should be no issue.\nOr if I want to put Jawi in non-Halal stuff like beer and BKT, there should be no issue.\nOr If I want create a banner in Christmas in Jawi should be no issue.", "Imo, the missing voices after she raton move is mainly due to increased awareness and knowledge of what jawi/khat is. I'm not sure about you but I definately learned more about those through other people than dap. So in the end I think there are less people making noice about that issue when they realised that it is not going to impact them as negatively as they initially thought.", "Kinda agree actually.\nThe reason to learn it is mostly because it's still being used. Not all malays are fluent in reading jawi either but the main point to learn is to at least have a basic knowledge to read it. I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge. Learning jawi for me is just like learning idiom or pantun or formal writing format or art or kawad kaki. Not everyone really uses all the knowledge that we learn at school but it will be useful at some point either directly or indirectly. I also don't think it's that difficult, put 1 chapter about the introduction and basics of jawi in buku teks BM darjah 5 and settle. Move on and forget about it.", "This just further evidence how ignorant you are. Jawi is not even Muslimc stuff for god sake lol. You cannot even read the holy book Quran with it. Muslim people in other country will not understand it. Now read this - Jawi is just a way to write words in BM but using different character.. instead of roman characters they are using characters inspired by arabic\u2026 like how people in this country does before British came and change it to Roman. It just part of the country history.", "There are many people confused weather Jawi is Islamic or not, and thus like I said, a official government statement saying Jawi is not Islamic should settle it.", "Alteady explain rationally. People like you tend to be ignorant. Masuk kanan keluar kiri.", "as long the government can guaranteed Jawi is not linked to Islam and there is no restriction on JAWI usage.\nJust shows how ignorant you are.", "I know Jawi is not related to Islam , but a guarantee from the government that Jawi is not Islamic and there will be no restriction on Jawi usage (e.g. If English can be used, Jawi also can) will stop all the confusion and help promote the writing style.", "Jawi = Bahasa Melayu. 3 muka surat untuk pengenalan. Dah banyak kali kerajaan terangkan dekat orang awam. Ahli Parlimen DAP pun dah terangkan secara rasional. Pembelajaran jawi tak bersamaan pembelajaran islam. Macam Tony Pua cakap apa masalah dia? Komuniti Cina dan India tak faham bahasa Melayu ke?", "Thus, I can use Jawi in non-Islamic context without any issue right ?"], ["It was definitely a period that shows irrationality among PH voterbase is not that different with the irrationality within other coalitions voterbase.\nThe same way we laugh at certain groups of people thinking a simple \"Merry Christmas\" can christianized them. We ourself thought that somehow 3 pages that just mentioned what those little jawi word in our bank notes, jata negara etc meant in textbook could \"islamized\" us.\nThe issue should have been discuss from a standpoint that if the 3 pages could serves as an entryhole to future extremist implementing even more than just 3 pages. But instead irrationality takes hold and this simple issue got enlarged ridiculously.\nedit 1: u/UsernameGenerik , not sure if its your video, but it should have also included the later 30sec that talk about the magical dissappearance of the issue suddenly when XX move happen. The ones pouring the fire over and over magically disappeared.\nHere at 1:19:36 if you all interested to continue watching"], ["Jawi calligraphy first became an issue in July when the government said it would introduce khat lessons in all Malaysian schools, including \u201cvernacular\u201d schools where lessons are taught in Tamil or Mandarin.\nAlthough the government later reversed the decision, the proposed change provoked complaints about the \u201cIslamisation\u201d of education in the Muslim-majority country where identity politics often shape policy.\nSeni khat merupakan seni yang amat disanjungi di antara seni-seni Islam yang lain kerana ia merupakan salah satu cara utama mengekalkan keaslian kandungan ayat-ayat suci al-Qur'an selain melalui hafalan para huffaz (penghafal Al-Quran). https://ms.m.wikipedia.org \u203a wiki Seni khat Islam - Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu, ensiklopedia bebas\nSo, seems to be the government manage to blur the line after they failed with backlash in trying to introduce khat into vernacular curriculum. From the already lack of trust in the government after all those ketuanan from bn, chinese do felt being sold by the representative in ph when this kind of things happen. Boiling the frog tactic? Who knows?", "What is the issue of teaching jawi in vernacular schools ? It is part of Bahasa Melayu, which is our national language. It is not a separate subject, and there is no religious teaching or anything within it also."], ["wow tony pua sums up the issue from Malay's perspective really well. learning jawi is learning malay language, it doesn't have anything to do with Arabic language or Muslim at all.", "Why should we waste our time to learn something useless is my issue on it", "Move on and forget about it\nThere you go, what's the point then... I ain't going to use it in my day to day life.", "It is part of Bahasa Melayu, which is our national language. It is still used in many official documents, display, logos, etc. Saying it is useless is like saying Malay language is useless. Which is okay if you are not Malaysia citizen....", "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon\u2019t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon\u2019t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks", "In that case just park it under BM subject. We don't need another subject just for Jawi.", "It is planned to be part of BM subject in the first place. A small topic in fact, as intro to the script.", "Jawi is in BM textbook\u2026 not another subject\u2026"], ["You\u2019re not a true non-muslim if mere jawi could falter your faith", "The only thing urban folks have faith in is money.", "You havr my vote.\ud83e\udd23 Cerita ebiet liew pg sabah uslam kan org kampung, tak lama lepas tu masing\u00b2 murtad.. So many trigered in both situation while the main objective for both party is money.. (donation )", "Not true", "You forgot to add on power", "You are also not a true Muslim if mere jawi could falter your faith or confuse you.\nhttps://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/08/22/pas-mp-backs-call-to-ban-jawi-script-on-products-by-non-muslims/1783204", "I will assume you\u2019re not aware of the issue underlying this statement, so let me share. The reason why some Muslims are cynical of non-Muslim businesses using Jawi on their products, mainly food, is because it tries to give an impression that the product is Islamic or Halal when in some cases, it may not be.\nYou will see this in some food products in stores where there\u2019s a Halal logo but looks sketchy, and when you look it up on Jakim\u2019s website, turns out they don\u2019t have Halal certification but used Jawi or such design tricks to reel in Muslim consumers. That\u2019s deceptive, especially if you consider how crucial Halal is to Muslim consumers.\nEducate yourself, or at least be more sensitive to why there are actual logical reasons behind certain statements or actions.", "Based on what you said, the value of Jawi is reduced if we cannot used it at certain place and this will discourage people from actually learning Jawi.\nI assume when you said deceptive part is when people put halal logo when their product is not halal ? I agreed with you , it's illegal and government should take action.\nHowever if I am a non Muslim and my product have halal cert, I should be allowed to put Jawi in my product alongside with the official halal logo.\nOr\nIf my product is non-halal, I should be able to put Jawi in my product without any kind of statement or logo saying it's halal.", "The irony. This reddit always lambasted Malay muslim community\u2019s ignorance but when it comes to their own race/kind tutup mata pekak telinga."], ["2018 PH gov biggest weakness is their PR. Absolutely horrendous. The Jawi issues and the black shoes issues shouldn\u2019t get as big as it got but they failed to communicate to the people.", "Agree \ud83d\udcaf. And also adding to this, there is two team in pkr which also lead to langkah sheraton. Geramnya aku bila ingat. Penat tau bersorak, berdiri sampai ke malam kat pintu istana masa tu."], ["I will tell that uncle don't worry I learn english and I don't turn myself into believing Jesus.", "Jesus is Jewish but I get your point"], ["I think the timing to introduce this is at a really wrong timing where people prioritize livelihood, future of their kids (improve existing education system, reduce burden of the educators and student, by removing the unnecessary not ADDing it) and most important stability of the government (not even 1 year at that time?)\nwhats the point of introducing this? whats the point of learning it? will it help / increase workforce efficiency or competitiveness?\nyou can do this when our country is good enough you know, nothing good to do, ok go ahead but optional.:29091::29091:\nsorry, for bad english. my point is still on the timing / unnecessary to introduce to our future generation."], ["Theoretically, jawi (a.k.a. arabic letters) is not islam, but jawi came to this land together with islam. there is a symbiotic relationship between jawi and islam.\nof course, many will say that jawi is intrinsically 'malay culture'...but what is 'malay culture'? For the past 70 years, the status quo and the government has purposely intertwined malay culture and islamic culture, so much so that only an expert in history can properly distinguished between malay culture and islamic culture....heck, even in this country, a malay is legally defined as someone who is a muslim.\nso, why is it surprising that non-muslims in this country, particularly those younger than 50 years old, see jawi as part of islam or an 'islamic thing'? why is it surprising to see non-muslims get anxious when the government that was supposed to promote ALL cultures suddenly push this 'islamic thing' , when almost nobody was asking for it?\nTony Pua get laugh all he wants but i am sure he is well aware of the decades of indoctrination that has been happening in this country to cause huge distrust between muslims vs non-muslims ...and malays vs non-malays"], ["If its just another form of writing malay, and not some ploy to push islam onto everyone then i see no reason why not.\nBut imo, why the fuck do we need to learn a harder form of malay when rumi is literally better and easily understood?\nLets no end up with a situation like japan where those poor students need to learn THREE alphabets."], ["The problem is you made it a national syllabus, and jawi is not something only the minorities know. The majority knows what it is.\nYou made it in your manifesto to preserve the cultures and languages of the minorities. Why did you not do that? Where is the recognition for uec? Where is your effort to preserve vernacular schools?\nEven the Sarawak gov was doing better than you. Why would you give blow jobs to the most racist people when they refuse that?", "Found a racist here", "Other than mere accusation, you decide to make no argument here. Get out.", "No problem I dont like here I get out. You? You dont like why you do not get out?", "I feel perfectly fine here. Did I say I do not like it here?\nBlocked because too chicken to use main account. Pui", "The problem is you made it a national syllabus, and jawi is not something only the minorities know. The majority knows what it is.\nIt's three page of Jawi that essentially say what those jawi words in your bank notes mean, I do not believe you can teach someone to be proficient at basic Jawi and test them in exams with just 3 pages. I do not believe having a simple \" hey this is what the jawi on your bank notes mean\" = give blow jobs to the most racist people.\nCould it be used as entry hole to expand in future? Maybe, that should be the point to discuss not the fucking apparently 3 pages of jawi can islamized us somehow the same way saying merry christmas will christianize someone.\nYou made it in your manifesto to preserve the cultures and languages of the minorities. Why did you not do that? Where is the recognition for uec? Where is your effort to preserve vernacular schools?\nAs much as I think UEC should be recognized, you seriously want it to be introduced in a time where there are open demonstration against ICERD and reminder that PH was in government for only 22 months and within those 22 month there is even a certain Atuk inside. Vernacular schools still exists even to this day, what are you on about."], ["I personally have no problem with Jawi being part of our education system. But I would rather learn real arabic than jawi. It's more useful in the real world."], ["where is this from?", "Ong Kian Ming\u2019s new podcast. Link"], ["What the name of this podcast.", "Are We OK?"], ["If the main reason is to promote unity, isn't it better for bumi to learn other non's language instead of jawi?", "No one said the main reason is unity - it's a Malaysian heritage.", "if that's the case isn't Mandarin and Tamil part of Malaysin heritage too?", "Jawi script came first, if you really have to compare. And again, Jawi is a script, not a different language.", "Brahmi (and variants) came first.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/s/GvKJCZ8eQN", "Why should this become a competition of who came first if we're celebrating diversity?", "It's not who is first as if it's a competition - it's what was used for a better part of Malaysian history. That was the point if you missed it."], ["Of course there is no issue in the introduction of learning Jawi. The issue is when to introduce. You expect the society to suddenly accept Jawi? It is like introducing EVs right now, and how our society reacts? F-ing FUD.\nThe pace is important. Take it gradually. Before you decide to launch it from your own perspective. \"Oh they are just gonna be fine\" instead the mindset should be \"what if they are not fine?\" That \"what if\" is gonna cause you everything"], ["They would give every stick and stone they found to show us they are racist without telling us they are racist.", "Most Chinese Malaysian and Indian Malaysian are conservative in nature."], ["\"If my son goes to school and come back a muslim\" I- what \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d"], ["There's really no issue with learning jawi, but what was the reason behind the idea? Is it to teach students something new or start islamifying schools? If it was the former then it wouldn't be a problem, but everyone knows its the latter.\nWhy not focus on improving what we already have? Many students in rural areas are really struggling esp with English and stem subjects. Adding a new subject isn't going to do anything for anyone. Hopefully moe wakes up and improves the whole education system as a whole.", "Then why learn mandarin ? Try to chinafying people or what ?", "No one is forcing students to learn mandarin, mandarin is only taught in SJKC and as an elective subject, same with Tamil and other languages (elective subjects in sec school like Japanese German etc)", "It's for the sake of preserving the Chinese culture and the practicality of getting more desirable in the job market. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.", "I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge.\nThat's true! Having an introduction to jawi in a chapter is not a problem and can even give students something new to learn. To me it's only a problem when they're forcing us to learn jawi as it's own independent subject."], ["I had to take Jawi when I was in school. The problem was there was no explanation what is Jawi or why we are learning it. It looked like Arabic and sounded like Arabic so the perception was that we were being brain washed.", "Yup learnt it, passed tests on it and promptly forgot it.", "Yup. And now i still struggle reading it."], ["The internet crowd can argue on the lack of utility but the people on the streets opposed this based on racial-religious lines and ignorance. You can't defend that."], ["I always support this 2 guys. No matter what other say about this 2 guy. Tony he really work and serve people under his consistency which i personally witness. \ud83d\udc4d\ud83c\udffb"], ["Malaysian Chinese is really conservative. Look at the community\u2019s comment, they won\u2019t accept it by stating as \u2018brainwashed\u2019. What to do when majority of them against it? Political party is just representing the voice of their voters."], ["Ugh no thanks. Jawi can stay in the past, just use romawi. Hated jawi in school, it might also be the reason why I hate Arabic language class.", "You mean rumi?", "I guess"], ["I still stand firmly where I stood. NO JAWI!"], ["Your core supporters dont want anything that have any, even the smallest thing that is linked to islam. They want to push it away as far as possible.", "You are gaslighting.\nIt started out as khat ie Islamic calligraphy, caused a shitstorm then changed to jawi ie malay in Arabic script.\nEnd of the day Mahathir played both sides as he knew he would rile up 'us vs them' to discredit DAP.\nPut yourself on the other side, will you for the sake of unity allow your child to recite the catechism or sutra just one paragraph aja bukan banyak", "\"No cross in my neighborhood but I want your kids to embrace Islam\" /s", "Correct.", "Makes sense if you ask the person queuing behind you move away a few steps after rubbing his penis on your pants for decades once you find some room, right?", "It's always the majority forcing the non to comply without even consulting our opinion. The problem isnt with learning jawi, but it was forced upon us without even bother to ask for our opinion. Not a single discussion was held.\nIf encouraging unity is the main reason behind pushing this, why not the majority take up learning the non's language instead? Be it mandarin or tamil, it will goes a much longer way of promoting unity and interaction between races instead of this jawi that's pratically useless irl", "DAP was supposed to represent you guys. And based on what tony said, they had no problem with it. And the deputy education at that time was from DAP.", "So am I in principle, I have no problem with learning jawi. I have problem with the circumstances that lead this to happen.\nSo you have no problem with majority praticing the \"tyranny of majority\" and forcing whatever they see fit without consulting the minority?", "Im actually the type that respects the will of the majority. Depends on the situation, I may voice out my view and try to convince others, but if the majority doesnt accept it, then thats that. No hard feelings.\nI dont expect people to follow whatever i say or give whatever i want. And bitch around when people dont accept what i say.\nActually, in all honesty, im actually like that at 1 point in my life. Everything is me me me. But as time goes, I see it more of me being childish."], ["Glad they spoke about this. Truly, the jawi debacle was the moment I became apathetic towards the PH government. The petty and arrogant rejection shown towards a harmless piece of Malay culture had validated the words of my PAS and UMNO supporting friends that I was \"anjing DAP\" for voting PH."], ["Pointless in learning a language if it is not use much in the real world other than in Islam. Hence why people protest. Bether to go learn Japanese or Korean that many companies would want to hire later in the future.", "This just further evidence how ignorant you are. Jawi is not even Muslimc or Islamic stuff for god sake lol. You cannot even read the holy book Quran with it. Muslim people in other country will not understand it. Now read this - Jawi is just a way to write words in BM but using different character.. instead of roman characters they are using characters inspired by arabic\u2026 like how people in this country does before British came and change it to Roman. It just part of the country history.", "Pointless in learning a language if it is not use much in the real world other than in Islam. Hence why people protest.\nBut people aren't protesting due to the lack of utility. Hence your point is moot."], ["I think the issue with this is that there is a bunch of problems waiting to be addressed. Ppl has unusually high expectations on PH but PH has addressed nothing except for trivial matters, such as this. This is still the case with this term of PH. Years after years and same story 'UMNO aldy 60 yrs why can't give PH few more years.' This is not a competition to see who is more incompetent."], ["I say no to Jawi in school. Better use the time wasted on jawi to learn more rumi BM.\nRegardless, this is an excellent episode that goes into details of policies"], ["I'm not well verse in this topic so feel free to bash away\nFew page of jawi/khat introduction is fine, imo. My problem with it is: why? Instead of jawi/khat, why not include bahasa pasar or even kelate slang? Isnt that a better way to increase unity between races, according to the bahasa purist nationalist? Why add jawi into the mix?\nIs jawi/khat malay culture, or malaysia culture? If we admit that jawi is malaysia culture, will it be used on the non, that we are not malaysian enough for not being good in jawi/khat, like how bm is weaponised?\nCan dap proof that said decision was not a move to buy malay votes? Can dap proof that they are not politicking education? Was that agenda always in their country development plan even during their time as opposition?\nYes I despise dz and cinapek that exxagerate the influence of jawi/khat onto the non's culture. They are naive and ill informed, big part of the blame goes to you guys who didn't communicate beforehand. Still, Them being a dick doesn't mean that this decision is not an opportunist decision to cement their position within the malay community. You like the so much, you go kiss their ass lo. Why blame us pula? Use knee as brain also can foresee the reaction your core voters will give lah. We are not obliged to give you undying support. Sorry we are not pas voters.", "Everyday I am convinced that multiculturalism is more a liability than advantage. Every subject no matter how small and non-issue would always go back to the question of race and religion."], ["Tony Pua and Ong Kian Ming are your typical Oxbridge smug self serving asshats. And yes I've met a bunch of them. These people think they are superior and everyone are just dumb little chess pieces to be manipulated."], ["Let student made the choices of languages they want to learn... no need to enforce."], ["\"if my son goes to school and come back as muslim\"\nLOL cam bodo.\nsame vibe as \"tengok salib tak boleh mengucap\"\ndua2 bodo mudah keliru geng.", "https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/07/27/subtle-religious-conversion-of-orang-asli-children-still-going-on-in-school/1775255"], ["I don't understand why Jawi is linked to Islam is a problem. Like, yes Jawi is a product of Islam blending in to fit the people of Nusantara but its\nJUST A WRITING SYSTEM.\nSure, Jawi nowadays are mostly found in religious education books but back in the past Jawi is the standard writing system. Jawi is NOT a liturgical alphabet reserved only for religious purposes. Newspapers to code of law to ad signboards all uses Jawi as the main medium for Malay language. Had the colonialization never came and Za'ba never revolutionized Malay roman spelling, I'm sure Malaysia right now uses a Malay Jawi system. Plus, Malay isn't a\nAlso the idea of your children converting to Islam because of learning and using Jawi is absurd. It's like saying learning Aksara Jawa for Javanese or Baybayin for Tagalog will convert you to Hindu-Buddhism.\nThis whole issue is just people fearing of being open minded. This is a stupid issue"], ["Hello, friends. It's not only Malays who use Jawi. The Cham minority in Vietnam and Cambodia also use Jawi, which includes some additional letters, such as Pa etc... I can confirm that if you know Jawi, you'll likely understand Arabic letters as well (good benefit right. Ya habibi). Using Jawi doesn't necessarily mean you must be Muslim. Historically, successful kingdoms like Ayutthaya and Champa used Jawi too. If minority groups in Arab countries, including Jews, can speak and write Arabic, then why can't politically influential minorities do the same? Take example of a famous youtuber Xiaomanyc, who is from the USA, speaking Chinese and earning considerable respect from locals for preserving their language. Similarly, if you embrace Malay language, Jawi and their culture, the Malay people will respect you as well. But hey the arrogant keep coming ..."], ["This whole thread just shows how racist and close-minded are some Chinese Malaysian and Indian Malaysians are."], ["I can read jawi but can't write. I always get F during school."], ["Bro just flexing his rm50 smh /j"], ["Jawi is just another writing form etched within our country's history without any religious undertone\nThat said, I personally haven't met people that could write in it, it does seem interesting though"], ["10/10 campaigning. Blame your supporter."], ["Heh, what to do. Everyone should have a voice, right?"], ["saya dari sekolah cina pun sokong. Its just writing lol."]]}
+{"title": "PM hopes 2024 will bring more positive changes to the country", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vm07v/pm_hopes_2024_will_bring_more_positive_changes_to/", "num_comment": 12, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["In his vision, more islamic = more positive. hahaha"], ["Yea sure /s\nSST, LVG tax, petrol subsidy reduced", "The more the government saves on costs and raises revenue, the more money it has to distribute to the B40 and M40 income groups. Right now, a lot of the money spent on blanket subsidies go to either the really rich or smugglers. The top 10% of electricity users takes up 50% of electricity subsidy, while nearly half of the diesel consumption in Malaysia is smuggled out.\nIf you really are in the B40 or M40 income group, you would get even more cash transfers when the government significantly reduces its subsidy costs.", "Let's hope it's used wisely. Meanwhile business will take any chance they get to up rm0.5-1 every time"], ["I also hope 2024 will bring more positive change to the country by hoping there will be some reform by current government."], ["Susahkan rakyat saje"], ["\u201cMore\u201d"], ["Good luck, Madanon."], ["Hopefully 2024 brings 1 SGD = 4 MYR"], ["He should say something about dubai move"], ["positive for ??? testkit??? AIDS???"]]}
+{"title": "Happy 2024 Nyets! \ud83e\udd73", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vojze/happy_2024_nyets/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Culture"], "header": "", "comments": [["Haha i went to ioi also yesterday.. rmai gila org!"]]}
+{"title": "Technology literacy in Malaysia", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vnap0/technology_literacy_in_malaysia/", "num_comment": 197, "flairlabel": ["Science/ Technology"], "header": "Just watched a few tik toks in Malay promoting cheap \"gaming\" laptops and oh my god the gullibility of the people in the comments actually made me mad. And the sad thing is that Malay speaking content creators take advantage of these people and either shill shitty product for exorbitant prices or outright scam their audience.\nSo what do yall think?", "comments": [["its the case of anak nak gaming laptop but bapak bukan gamer. so bapak pun beli saja since it says gaming laptop. well idk what spec are we looking at but im pretty sure the newer gen stuff can be used for \"budget gaming\"", "half of my friends tak tau boleh upgrade RAM and think 8gb is the maximum..\non a 3060 laptop...", "oh man i used to game with intel intergrated graphics XD", "I game on an MX 130 lol. In 2023.", "i5 8250, 8gb ram, MX150, 2gb vram, in 2024 playing x-plane. have to use a lot of plugin to reduce graphic and plug the charger all the time. still can play la haha", "Same, now in 2024.\ud83d\ude11\ud83d\ude11\ud83d\ude01", "Speaking of which! Some of them ironically didnt know that they ran some games with integrated graphics but they didnt know.\nall they say is \"bapak ah game tgh lah sial\"", "Integrated graphic are getting good and more efficient lately", "Yo but amd intefrated graohics is freaking awesome tho. Got an old amd cpu with it for like Rm99 and it can run gta 5 high setting like a boss", "Yeah, I have a Ryzen 5600h with an integrated graphics card and it runs pretty well on 2010s games. Don't expect the same performance in modern games though.", "wtf really?", "the APU of Amd back then is really good for super budget setup,it still is good with the ryzen architecture", "And it\u2019s what Steam deck based on also", "Oh yeah this happened to my cousin who is a software engineer. Years ago he bought a gaming PC but somehow he had been playing his games with monitor connecting to the motherboard hdmi output. It went on for half a year until I noticed and pointed it out to him. His realization was hilarious.\nI find it weird that there's alot of people i know who are pro at software (i.e. IT, coding or design) but are completely clueless outside of the software they use.", "Here I am stressing about putting 4 stick into my mobo n if the XPM would be disabled. While simultaneously fussing about the ram timing.\nwtfisitsocomplicatedsigh", "nahh itll always folo the slowest one. just keep it simple n use same model/brand/series for all the slots.", "I bought hyperx Fury just before covid as stock is running out. Its more expensive compared to like silicon power, so was checking out if can mix n match.\nIn fact, the seller only had rgb in stock precovid, so my case only the ram is lit fabulously lol. Damm sesat look.", "ignorance is bliss i guess\nthe problem is before they find out they planned to buy a new laptop.. or a prebuilt", "Some laptops can swap RAM nowadays tho, so I'd still blame it on those users for not educating themselves.", "The worst part is i once called them out but they say \" we're not rich like you\" but spend money on games thrice that amount.", "I think it isn't entire wrong, while some laptop still designed with upgradable memory on the motherboard, but most of the thin/ultra books have designed them as onboard memory which means non-upgradable.", "it really depends on the laptop model though, most laptop allow upgrade but there are some that are ass enough to have their RAM soldered onto it and non-upgradable", "I dont disagree. but they bought specifically gaming laptops that are gimped with 8gb ram with an empty slot. but they dunno anything about it", "Yeah you are right but these tiktok scammers are not selling new gen stuff, they are selling laptop 1 malaysia level chromebook from 2010's and advertise them as gaming laptops.", "owwh if thats the case we can flag that to tik tok as false advertizing. maybe go even better send to KPDN(idk what they can do rn really) XD", "Nah cuz \"gaming laptop\" is a really broad term. A laptop can be considered a gaming laptop even though it can only run minesweerper so that's an unfortunate loophole", "yeah thats quite a loophole.", "I don\u2019t think that would fly as \u201cgaming\u201d laptop. You would have to be a gigantic idiot with zero knowledge on what modern gaming is to fall for such a claim.", "Which is more than half of the people. All they know is more ram = better performance which is not totally wrong but there's more than just ram", "Except the people who are selling those stuff are not telling what generation CPU it is. I saw several ads telling 8th generation i7 below with no dedicated GPU \"gaming\" laptop"], ["Not just the Malay speaking audience, its every single society segment.\nThem young ones didn't have to troubleshoot their tech as often as millennials have to back in the day. If you never have to meddle to get things going, you won't have any incentive to learn more deeply than just using the thing.", "True. I used to think Gen Z would be better at tech so when I found the opposite, I thought it was weird until I read a similar comment like yours.\nA lot of the tech we have today is very streamlined compared to the late 90s to early 00s. They don\u2019t grow up tinkering a PC because a phone or tablet already fulfil their needs. Wifi routers now come with apps that make set up a breeze. Pirated stuff was rampant that we learned how to detect dangerous sites and deal with malware. Printers still suck, but we have less and less reasons to even print something in the first place.\nApart from PC gamers, I could now see why Gen Z is less tech literate. It\u2019s not their fault.", "You miss a huge point. Most of tech is now becoming less open. Everything is pretty much solder in and can't be changed. Only pc remain customizable. In the future even car knowledge is going down", "yes, which is why we need to have a right to repair thingy going on like what people are fighting for in the USA", "Wait hold up are we talking about software literacy or hardware literacy??", "Both. Considering voice is also becoming more accessible. Just like how most today no longer need to hand write letter. I'm sure future norme generations need less typing and just use text to speech. Just like sense of direction since GPS become norm.", "Good point too. I can\u2019t upgrade anything on my laptop.", "Hopefully framework laptop become normalise. EU is our only hope to reverse the trend", "its ok, the more the lesser there is on freedom, education and the good will to do things that are interesting, fun and meaningful, the more the people gonna start riots and wars. don't give face, consumerism or control or whatever, the future generations must know about all the important stuffs to continue having good lives. Lawan. Jgn ditindas. Kasi Bomb itu tempat. HA HA HA HA...", "True. I'm GenZ but my first phone was a 5 year old Redmi 2 that crashed all the time. Troubleshooting all of the endless issues made me interested in tech and knowledgeable about the intricacies of android like different runtimes. Eventually I picked up coding in form 3 and pretty much self learnt python and some C++.", "That\u2019s cool! Keep it up", "Not just hardware. Back in those days, windows was just crappy. Occasionally, it needs to be formatted and reinstalled just to keep it working properly. These days it has become reliable enough that we almost never need to reinstall the OS that comes preinstalled for the entire lifetime of the laptop.", "Another good point! We don\u2019t even need to defrag anymore.", "lagi cantik sekarang just give minor bug.. button kenot press then got sometimes annoying little things happen.. its ok la... a.i. programming language also seemed like got humour and mischief.. when ask to wear seksi sikit pun tak nak kasi tunjuk. HA HA HA HA HA.. main main. koyak baju baru tau. HA HA HA HA HA", "This is exactly why my 12yo got a mid range pc for his Christmas present. Now if he complains it isn't working well enough he can figure out which part needs replacing and what he wants to replace it with himself.\n(EDIT for shitty spelling)", "Great idea!", "You did a good thing", "There are people out there who don't know how to use windows or even navigate folders since they grew up with iPads\nhttps://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z", "True that. My first PC was supposed to be fully spec-ed to the teeth, and my dad paid an arm and leg for that. Turn out the shop conned us and gave us shitty parts. Gotta work and fix it so often that I learnt how to put together a PC pre-internet times", "yeah! there is now entire generation that dont know how to use a game controller!", "More likely don't know how to use a physical keyboard without auto correct than controller.", "Keyboard > Game Controller -> Touch Screen.\nI suspect he meant some mobile corny and stupid games. Only when ones get serious about AAA gaming, they had to earn the 10,000 hours.", "You... Did you watch Thor? That story threw cold water on me. Man, next gen gamers be wild.", "I have never touched a Nintendo switch ever in my life, of course I'm not going to know how to use that specific game controller", "i mean there kids now literally pushing aside controllers trying to press the screen as if its touchscreen.", "well then that's an entire issue", "I agreed, I helping someone with a Computer Science degree, asked him to reseat his RAM.\nHe said he don't know how to open his PC case, and don't know how remove RAM...", "To be fair it\u2019s software and not hardware specialisations.", "even worse, it's closer to theory and mathematics than it is to software, let alone tinkering with hardware.", "I'm a CS major and there's a course in my college that taught us how to pick and install PC components", "Yeah. Taking electrical engineering does not mean that i can fix your fridge. Haha", "TIL CS student learns how to build a PC", "OMG. He will not survive..", "CS \u2260 tech literate.\nDepending on their focus, they prolly might know more on programming side rather than the handy mandy parts.\nI think if they're doing IT (information technology) and still doesn't know much about the physical components of a PC, that's an issue.", "new gen only good at tok kok, but don't really know shit honestly. They're good at pointing out issues, but dont know or wont even bother learning how to fix it\n\"look, my car has a punctured tyre. Car seller need to make sure all tyre wont have this problem anymore. Lets all protest\"\n\"in the mean time, did you change the tyre first?\"\n\"why should I?\"", "Complex things became simple, but in reality it is still complex, just designed so most people can use it without bothering with the details. I would say foolproof, but even fools sometimes break them. Ready made things are a lot easier to have than something you need to make on your own. While i still believe that professional stuff should be left to the experts, i do believe that you should have a minimum understanding of something that you own.\nI still see people using default SSID that their ISP set for them. Many people drive cars without knowing how to maintain it, they just know have problem go to workshop, no money can still drive use until it breaks. For a pc, unless the user took the effort, most people dont even know what parts their own computer has."], ["I don't use TikTok but based on the stuff creators are promoting on YouTube it's pretty bad everywhere\nbomb power supplies\noverpriced trash\netc etc", "Yep same on tiktok but I think it's even worse. Promoting literal e-waste with that annoying ass voice and smug accent"], ["As a millennial myself with a computer engineering background, I started to avoid answering computer illiterate person about why their laptop/PC/smartphone is too slow for gaming. I'll just tell them to go and buy the most expensive device they can afford. If the games is still lagging, that's mean you are just too poor to afford a gaming device.", "That's a very nice and simple way to put it. I'll be using your answer as well but of course without the mention of poor part hahaha", "then they go buy macbook XD"], ["i5 i5 bagus bagus, turns out it is gen 1 i5? and the wow 16gb ddr3 ram? lol", "No shit I saw a vid saying that acer nitro 5 has 84 gb of ram lmao. I immediately called out their bullshit", "Yeah I see posts like\nGAMING PC MURAH\nCORE I7\nGTX GRAPHIC CARD\nReality: i7 1st gen, gtx 650, fire hazard psu, way too many rgb puke fans", "Can you recommend me a good one within student budget?", "what's your budget? some students consider 10k is a student budget. lmao", "dafuqfr ? i know generally u need atlease 4k for a decent laptop for student but 10k ??", "And what games do you play ? If you play Cyberpunl 2077 or Alan Wake 2 I would say forget it", "If your budget is 2k\u00b1. I'd suggest an integrated APU for starters. Ryzen 5 5600g, 16gb ram ddr4, 1tb nvme, 550w PSU. This is as basic as you can get, upgrade to dedicated gpu down the line. Unless you're looking for laptops", "This is worse than buying overpriced rubbish 'gaming' pc from wish.com"], ["Not just Malays la. I was actually quite surprised as well. I thought in this age these new gen would be somewhat literate regarding tech. Boy was I wrong. Type keyboard guna dua jari telunjuk. Words & excel x payah cerita la. I mean. Don't they teach all these in school? I remember started to learn all this in primary school. Sudah abolished ka?", "No, it is never abolished, its just idiots being idiots", "People just don't want to learn."], ["A lot of people don't know how to google. I think half of our problem can be solved easily if people know how to use their phone effectively lol. Heck I think significant of my time can be reduced if my clients know how to use the internet and not just social media smh\nI own a printing store so I deal with a lot of printing stuff and I'd say 80% of my customer don't even know how to send thing through whatsapp. Also the amount of people who SCREENSHOT THE IMAGES FROM THEIR GALLERY AND SEND IT TO ME instead of just sending that goddamn original images is so damn high then they got pissed when the img is so blur", "Googling the right thing is definitely a whole separate skill. There should be a whole free course on how to properly use Google", "Well I agree, googling the right thing (niche thing I suppose) def need skill. But googling in general shouldn't be too hard like what do you mean you don't know how to find \"contoh surat rasmi buka akaun bank\" \ud83d\ude2d", "You're right about that ain't gonna lie. There's even ChatGPT now to make it easier although giving the right prompts itself is also another whole separate skill \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d Not a W situation at all hahaha", "Googling isn't hard, it just not the default behaviour anymore. I've noticed that more and more people prefer to be fed information rather than seeking it out themselves.\nIt's not that Googling is hard, it's just it doesn't even cross their minds to do it.", "Quality of Google has declined over the years thanks to endless content shit farms, SEO, and more lately, AI generated content. Anyone who's tried to use Google for technical/nuanced discussion can probably agree it's quite difficult to find quality content now (even with the 'adding \"reddit\" to the end of your query' trick), couple with this newer gen and their approach to passively receive information, the internet as we knew it is dead.", "I work in IT retail and customers prefer to ignore us workers and instead Google while standing in front of the item they want to find. They end up taking a lot of time.", "Also the amount of people who SCREENSHOT THE IMAGES FROM THEIR GALLERY AND SEND IT TO ME instead of just sending that goddamn original images is so damn high then they got pissed when the img is so blur\nOh yeah i know that feeling very well.\nI often help my dad and uncles to print out basic documents and receipts/invoices for their work. Most of the time and I mean 99% of the time, they either send me a phone screenshot of the document/ OR literally taking a photo of the hardcopy document (not even using the feature that can convert the camera into scanner). These jpg images often get forwarded so many times via whatsapp or wechat until they became so compressed that you can't even read the text!\nYou know what's the worst ones I've received? SENDING ME A JPG OF A PHONE DISPLAYING A JPG OF THE DOCUMENT. OMFG CAN YOU PLEASE FORWARD ME THE PDF FILE."], ["I have a computer store and I was surprised that many customers came to me asking if Chromebook available. Most just look at price rather than spec\ud83d\ude13", "Yeah but you gotta take their budget into consideration. A lot of people can't afford a 1000+ laptop for work ya know", "you are not gonna get any new decent 'work' laptop even for 1000+, used or budget laptops yes", "welllllll its like that for many things really ahahaha malaysian right? ahahahaha. me imma spec person. but price.... well price is price ahahahaha gotta lower my expectations XD", "Or stock the actual decent Chromebook from Joi, Acer, Asus, etc instead of out of support Chromebook from years ago."], ["GAMING PC MURAH BOLEH MAIN PUBG , DOTA2.\nSPEC : 2nd Gen i5 + GT730.\nTechnically can play PUBG and Dota 2 at 14fps at 720p..", "Then they sell it for 2000 lol", "14 fps?? \ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80\ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d", "You'd be lucky if it even launch", "Im surprised they still even have those in stock", "dota 2 maybe not, since when my friend forced me to play dota 2, with my current Minecraft server PC(i3 4170 GT720) I can run DOTA 2 at 120fps", "Benda ni boleh buatkan orang kena gelak kaw-kaw dah...", "Can become a r/lowendgaming story"], ["Hey there, currently in the United States. The same thing can be said for more \"rural\" areas, advertisement targets lower-income and technology-illiterate individuals. even worse is the credit payment plan, since America loves credit. A cheap 300-dollar laptop can cost 1000 with interest."], ["I'd say it's an intersectionality of several factors.\nMalaysians are generally penny-wise and pound-foolish. That's how so many are so easily duped into voting for the wrong parties, selecting the wrong leaders, making ill-advised spending, etc etc.\nNext, its technology literacy. For one thing, I noticed many in the malaysian population are, and might never be for the next 5 years, not ready for AI. By the time AI really runs in this country's economy and industry in full force, many might be losing their jobs. Of course, politicians might wanna prevent that from happening to save jobs, but that might just drag us further behind---as if we're not lagging already---in terms of output and production.\nthird, orang kite mentality. I've seen Malays scamming fellow malays into get rich quick schemes, saving plans, and even bogus Nabi relics exhibition. Looking at Hadi Awang is enough, another well known snake oil salesman. A lot of Malays are willing to trust a stranger just because he or she is from the same race instead of using critical thinking and analytical skills to discern truths for themselves", "By the time AI really runs in this country's economy and industry in full force, many might be losing their jobs. Of course, politicians might wanna prevent that from happening to save jobs, but that might just drag us further behind---as if we're not lagging already---in terms of output and production.\nAI in its current or upcoming form is not the promise its proponents, shills, critics, doomsayers, \"influencers\" claim it will be. Just like crypto. It's very underwhelming in reality. If the economy is gonna be shit, it will be for other reasons.", "Any reference to what you state? Because as I experienced from work, AI+analytics+automation has been progressed rapidly for the last 1 decade and no sight of underwhelming as you mentioned. There are many aspects of AI, although we have not reached AGI yet, which AI aspects to you think it is underwhelming?", "true ,true and all true!"], ["Thats why Malaysia is syurga scammer.", "a prc supplier once admitted as much to me"], ["Scrolled very long in Malay gaming scene and out of the many videos I only saw two honest creators smh.", "Please share who the two honest content creators are, they definitely need more love from us.", "I hope Monaliza bro is one of them at least.", "Need to know who are they", "Turns out Melayu sendiri yang pijak Melayu. What a surprise"], ["Malaysian in a nutshell:\n\"Oh they have a lot of following so everything they say must be true!\"\n\"HOLY SHIT MURAH GILA!\" *proceeds to buy without even look at the products components\nKesah lak murah ke tak, asalkan ada perkataan \"gaming\". Same thing \"gaming\" chairs. For god sakes most of them aren't even good for your back.", "Ergonomic office chairs > Gaming chairs"], ["Yeah especially when they say chromebook is good. like bruh no\ud83e\udd26\u200d\u2642\ufe0fget a refurbished laptop instead its far better", "Nothing wrongs with Chromebook if all the user need to do is browse facebook or watch youtube and some light typing on googles docs.\nVery good battery life and relatively secure.", "But to advertise it as a gaming laptop when there are already laptops specifically in that segment is pretty much misleading and false advertising.", "Too overpriced tho"], ["r u sure they dunno bout the specs\nim more astonished of the prices", "Yep. Saw one claimed acer nitro 5 has 84 gb of ram lmao", "84GB of RAM??? Gahdamn bro they tryna do server stuff for NASA bro", "Nah NASA sent people to moon with 4kb of ram", "plot twist: 84GB DDR ram."], ["People nowadays do not bother to Google and do any basic research before buying anything. Surprisingly from my circle of friends this goes the same with degree graduates."], ["Can play Dota2, cannot play Minecraft"], ["I think the people who usually fall for all this stuff usually dont have the time to actually do research on the matter (too many other commitments), or they are just too trusting especially when its a source they are comfortable with (influencer, friend, uncle etc) or they are just dumb MFs. Its not just a malay thing, its a people thing."], ["It\u2019s the consumer culture here in Malaysia. Tech is sold at less than reputable stores and there\u2019s only one big box store and they rip you off.\nCompared to say Best Buy in the U.S., video cards, CPUs, pre made PCs are all clearly displayed and the consumer is informed.\nMalaysia doesn\u2019t have good consumer protection laws and the general mentality is if you get ripped off then it\u2019s your fault."], ["You have no idea. I have some many people have trouble creating PDF from JPEG and these people just graduate from high school just a few years ago.", "Tbh I still have no idea to do it properly and just use online websites instead cuz every single app that I use ask you to sign up and shit", "Well you can always pirate the apps lol"], ["Business opportunities selling refurbished business or office laptop that just decommissioned."], ["I know a ton of people that put their Wifi router in a cabinet somewhere, or behind their TV, and yet blame TM for shitty connections.", "Granted, TM aint the best either, they got their problems too\n(bad routing, crappy chinese no name routers [who is aztech])"], ["Honestly, I myself had lost track of todays gaming tech. I was a gamer back in the days, and my knowledge in pc can be considered advanced. But nowadays, im totally lost. In terms of OS and softwares, I am still up to date a bit, but in terms of hardware.... nope. My knowledge are more towards phones now.\nWhen buying a pc or laptop, i just find my friend who is knowledgeable in this, tell him what i want to do, my budget, and then he will list down the specs that meets my needs.\nI dont even remember the graphic card used for my son pc. Hahahaha"], ["I don't think it's just technology literacy. That might be one of the key component. But I think it strikes deeper into media literacy. Identifying scams in media, be it audio or visual or both is a general skill, the reason one would believe in conspiracy theories spread through WhatsApp is the same reason people will fall for scams like these.\nIf you have strong media literacy, you would not be as easily preyed upon by these scummy business tactic. (not impossible, just harder, and avoid the drunning kruger effect)"], ["I know basic computering but nothing fancy. But even as me whose not really a tech guy can see this scam is just, haih, theyre using gullible people, parents especially.\nThough, id say good for them. My parents doesnt buy me shits that easily when i was a kid, even phones are second hands that able to use basic smartphone stuff. Gotta learn the hard way id say"], ["I have no idea how to see how good they are. But I always ask for the specifications and compare it in game requirements test to see if can play or not.\nAlways check in game requirement test before buying.", "Yeah but the commenters always asking \"Roblox boleh tak? Blackshot boleh tak? San andreas boleh tak?\". Choosing the lowest end games as tester is genuinely making me mad. Either that or that guy that ask can pubg be played on a chromebook lmao", "Lol seriously? If like that just buy a RM300 laptop and it should work. The game I want to play lowest specs atleast RM700."], ["I see it on fb as well, some random post advertising junk products and everyone in the comment section asking link pls, where can buy, so cheap onz buy, etc...\nThe amount of people who dont even bother to check the product quality, product usage & proper reviews but just look at the PRICE because some random page shared about it. Later, they complain product bad lah, scam me, all dumb excuses for their own stupidity.", "and then proceed to blame the bank for \"no security\" when they try to get discount by downloading shady app", "this also, those who download random apps really no hope\nno common sense"], ["I am guilty. I have zero knowledge of computers.", "That's what google is for my dude. Just search up linus laptop buying guide and learn from there. Oh and avoid the malay speaking side at all cost cuz most of them are shills", "Go to buildapc before buying anything!", "Watch these YouTubers called Jarrod's Tech and PC Centric. All you need to know tbh."], ["Those are mostly kampung people who are less likely to be technologically literate.", "Yeah I know. Really sad to see tbh cuz they are getting scammed hard"], ["It's norm wait till you join pc group and just to watch drama unfold."], ["If anyone here is looking for a gaming laptop and can at least understand English, I recommend this youtuber called Jarrod's Tech. He helped me in my decision to get my gaming laptop and so far I'm very happy with my purchase.", "or go to places like r/laptops", "r/GamingLaptops to be more specific", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/laptops using the top posts of the year!\n#1: Got drunk and puked on my Lenovo Ideapad gaming 3, is there any way to clean under the keys or could any professionals do it? | 371 comments\n#2: i added an extra heatsink to this poor laptop. | 148 comments\n#3: Is this bad | 162 comments\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub"], ["can you share those tiktok acc? would love to expose them", "Search up gaming laptop on tiktok and you'll find plenty"], ["There's a seafood/durian Chinese guy who's selling used Chromebooks as \"Gaming laptop\". So it's not a racial thing. Generally, many tech illiterate people are in the country."], ["As someone who manages the IT of my department any pc/laptop with gen 8 and below is not worth it. Obviously these content scammers don\u2019t know what they are talking about. Even in Shoppee there are seller selling gen 6 for more than rm1k"], ["those \u201cgullible people\" are bot."], ["not really Malaysia or Malay issue, they just copy marketing strategy from China n orang putih."], ["It's tiktok."], ["In this age where information is readily available online."], ["if you're spending any considerable amount of money on a product without doing extensive research then its really on you for getting tricked tbh"], ["Someone in pc gaming community fb group made a post complaining about this, then that kedai made police report. Something like fitnah or mencarut (the OP did use vulgar words to describe)"], ["Yeah the seller said that pc has wifi and the comment asks wifi how much a month hahahaha"], ["As a millennial, I see a profit opportunity. If that's what the consumer wants, its what the market will provide.", "Sounds like market ripe for disruption for people who can tell the truth. Whether the good pc is affordable or not i dont know lah.", "good acceptable spec for me usually will range 2K+. anything below is just for school/office work n presentations n maybe for online/retail shops. doing those office stuff."], ["We are NOT yet a first world country and many people in Mlysia are not ICT expert,please be real", "Yeah I know. But at the very least they have the knowledge of googling what this and that is. Instead, they just blindly believe what this random person on the internet is saying", "Maybe they are dumb, truly dumb"], ["Another thing people often overlook in laptop specs is GPU wattage. There's a reason why some laptops are cheaper than their counterparts (+quality).", "I made that mistake with my previous gaming laptop. I got a Dell G3 the cheap one with GTX 1650. I didn't know the TGP was pretty low at the time. The i5-9300h was also probably bottlenecking my laptop. It was a rookie mistake. Now I moved over to the Lenovo LOQ series with my GPU having 115W TGP. No regrets."], ["I don\u2019t play games. So I just buy a M3 MacBook Pro and upgraded the ram to 16GB."], ["Probably because people think that gaming pc = console in terms of performance."], ["The logic is...as time move forward .. the latest laptop..already capable of playing..games...just don't expect for the game can play at full spec... Need to go basic level...graphic, shadows...etc.. Same like.mobile.phone..now.if go and buy...redmi note 10...already can play games...CODM..pubg... The setting out lowest...for longevity... All the now highest specs expensive pc or mobile fon...after 10 years will be cheap...the technology inside those machine will pass down ... Who know in the year 2030...all the cheap laptop is the high specs..."], ["What are their specs?", "Intel celeron should tell you everything. The other one i saw was a chromebook that can't even run the os properly", "\ud83d\udc80\nAnd they are passing them off as gaming laptops? That's a scam.", "Celeron should be banned", "celeron? lol wtf"], ["most people are not interested in learning stuff outside their interest, like food folks will be ignorant to what they eat.\nit is just for some of us, interest had to be learnt the hard way when we were growing up."], ["Probably because people using certain languages usually wouldn't look at the details of those products in other languages due to lacking competency to read and understand long passage plus jargon, so these content creators took this advantage. For example, I used both Italian and Jap to search for best pc 2023, but the recommended vids to watch lesser in Italian which almost all contents come from the same creator (and you never know whether it's accurate without comparison). This can form information cocoons when ppl are unable or fewer to actively search for contents in other languages. And information cocoons are almost every part of society makes wealth from.\n<image>\nBtw I think only Eng and ch can direct more comprehensive search results...other languages..no."], ["genuine question from a tech illiterate:\nwhat do y'all think of those custom-built laptops like Illegear, Aftershock, Level51 etc.? Are they worth the price?", "No", "\"local\" brands like illegear, aftershock, level51 just buy chinese odm laptops from manufactures like Clevo or Tongfang, slap their name onto it and sell it\nNothing exactly wrong with that since those 2 brands make for various other brands as well, but the components that can be easily changed (RAM, SSD) would be determined by your reseller (do they give you cheap crappy ssd or good name brand ssd) and also the more important part is the warranty and after sales support\nI wouldn't completely dismiss them, just do your research and pick the best option"], ["Me working in retail selling IT stuff: True story bro....."], ["well, in my entire life I've only met one dude who knows remotely anything about tech."], ["i have to google what \u201cshill\u201d meaning"], ["My kid will be lucky to have me. I hope they are good at maths though. But amd integrated nowadays is quite okay, good enough for valorant and genshin which is what kids plays nowadays. Keyword: NOW."], ["You guys game with PC?"]]}
+{"title": "Malaysia Government has been caught using AI art and ChatGPT to develop the PADU website \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vxk3l/malaysia_government_has_been_caught_using_ai_art/", "num_comment": 56, "flairlabel": [], "header": "In response to this, they have removed the countdown timer this afternoon \ud83d\ude02", "comments": [["There's nothing wrong tbh, just a landing page", "Could've used official government illustrations/graphics or commissioned an artist to draw up the landing page instead of using AI. Plus there's graphic designers that work in almost every Bahagian Korporat of ministries \u2013 use them"], ["I did my internship in a software development company few months ago and developers had start using ChatGPT to assist them in coding but mostly for inspection and finding out mistakes"], ["Most programmers have been using it now, otherwise how to get future jobs requiring 2 years min experience in AI tools??\nMore important is whether this system, processes, integrations and gov policies can work well to achieve its intended outcomes."], ["More context please?\nUhh, what's exactly wrong with the countdown timer? and so what if it is by ChatGPT?\nWhy reinvent the wheel when we developers source common algorithms from StackOverflow/ChatGPT and improve our productivity?", "Ya. More context like how much did they pay for this.", "There's nothing wrong with using ChatGPT, but directly copying and pasting content from ChatGPT without reviewing and editing, they even include original comments, indicates a lack of prior programming knowledge or skills. Remember, first impression is important.\nMoreover, this website will handle highly sensitive citizen data such as ID numbers, names, addresses, etc. How can we ensure the rest of the site will be able to store these information securely? :26554:", "Nothing wrong with their code comments. Simple & straight to the point.", "Imagine removing code comments just because u dont want it to look like chatgpt code and come back later having no clue wtf code is doing \ud83d\udc80", "but directly copying and pasting content from ChatGPT without reviewing and editing, they even include original comments, indicates a lack of prior programming knowledge or skills\nDoesn't even matter mate. It's a countdown timer, it's not a critical module. They can rip off from any source as long as it works.\nRemember, first impression is important.\nNo, the front end UI/UX is the one that's important and not the F12 inspect element. No common user will ever care about code comments. Seriously.\nMoreover, this website will handle highly sensitive citizen data such as ID numbers, names, addresses, etc. How can we ensure the rest of the site will be able to store these information securely?\nJust because some countdown timer in the front end got \"exposed\" to be amateurish doesn't mean it'll pose a security issue. Until there's actual proof that these mentioned critical modules that handles personal/financial data are developed by copy pasting ChatGPT codes, we'll cross the bridge when we get there.\nSource: I'm a Systems Architect/Programmer and I definitely know what I'm talking about.", "I agree with you boss.\nPeople like this contribute nothing."], ["It's normal to use github copilot to develop websites or do any sorts of programming nowadays."], ["The art might be created using AI but there's no indication in the screenshot that it's made with chatGPT. Who knows if they write it themselves or copied the code somewhere.\nBut the coding style is definitely awful. Using var everywhere. Using innerHTML for simple numbers is also bad."], ["Are you a programmer or developer? Because majority of developers nowadays do use ChatGPT to assist in code writing.\nYou're a making a sensational post out of fucking nothing especially on a non-critical trivial module/feature of the site.\nI know this because I recently did the same for my Java Assignment as a ICT Diploma Holder.", "You're a making a sensational post out of fucking nothing especially on a non-critical trivial module/feature of the site.\nBecause empty cans make the most noise.", "As a software developer currently working in the industry, I would be genuinely surprised if any big companies do not have code assist software for the software engineers."], ["?????? there is nothing wrong here.\ntf are people bitching about"], ["Menjimatkan perbelanjaan negara. Respek kerajaan madani"], ["Chatgpt please write Rancangan Malaysia ke-13 \ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80", "Please correct grammar mistakes in our Perlembagaan \ud83d\udc7d", "Bina kereta terbang Malaysia"], ["whats wrong using AI that will definitely replace something in the future.... better start now than being left behind later.... only criticism, plz do QC."], ["Bro, stop inventing new wheels; just use tools that have already been developed.\nI don't see any issue here.", "They are a couple issues: a lot of art generation ai programs have been caught illegally using thousands of artist art as datasets and at time generates the actual image made by the original artist themselves.\nMidjourney for example is facing massive lawsuits for illegally using data sets without permission en masses.", "This is a problem the companies developing the Gen AI tools need to be transparent about and deal with. As a user, there is nothing wrong using it. If you are planning to hold your ethical ground, it only positions yourself in a more vulnerable position compared to others who chose to use it (ie more efficient workflow at a cheaper price)."], ["They seriously on vanilla JS?", "They seriously on vanilla JS\nSubcon > subcon > subcon > some poor intern", "Govt say PADU is developed in-house. No contractors.", "Damn, now that's new.", "Thats how they manage to do it in 6 months", "they claimed this one fully penjawat awams work", "Then ChatGPT", "well vanilla JS is the best tool for this simple landing page", "Correct, sometimes simple problems just need simple tools.", "I made a meme of you.\n<image>\nDisclaimer: I have a computer science degree but know nothing about web development or programming.", "Nooo, i i need overbloated js framework to make a simple countdown", "Vanilla JS is best and timeless when done right."], ["Bro really expects the government to create the countdown algorithm within their own language that runs on their own engine that built within their own specialized browser"], ["There is nothing wrong with using available resources"], ["Work smart. Not hard."], ["efficient."], ["whats PADU website about? as in what form of financial management specifically?"], ["as someone who currently learning to code, I leave so many comments in my code because if I want to debug, refresh my memory on wtf I am doing before, or help co-workers/future employees understand it. nothing wrong with that, it's just good practice. I feel like this is also like standard thing to do. also for this kind of stuff just use dateFns"], ["Haha\u2026Ez money for the kabel IT company", "Who's gonna tell him?"], ["That stupid looking ai generated background. these fucks got paid to use ai. probably img2img real art too. Dumbass probably copy pasted prompts too. Are we out of real artist in this country? Why go with AI? I think any fresh graduate can do better. You don't even have to pay them much.\n<image>", "This AI generated is quite ok, but please assign an artist to revamp it to make it much better tho. Do menteri ask chatgpt before making decision \ud83e\udd28", "This AI generated is quite ok\nI disagree. And you want an actual artist who can produce 100x better quality to touch up some AI generated image? It will take more effort to fix it than to create it from scratch.", "What I meant was artist can refer to AI (but better don\u2019t la) and redraw the whole thing to enhance and correct the small small mistakes. Still I\u2019m agree your point that just don\u2019t malas and draw it by human, especially government have more resources than we do and they should be an example to promote Malaysian style creative talent work. \ud83c\uddf2\ud83c\uddfe\nIf I might wrong, I am truly apologize to you.", "You know the government is lazy when they don't even bother to draw their own flag correctly", "This is so true... There are so many talented artists in MY and they decided to use AI"], ["Does anyone not use AI at work nowadays? If I see someone doing it old school I think twice about promoting them, they probably can't adapt to the present era."], ["the same website that we will collectively use to update our financial data was developed by chat gpt?:26554:", "This makes you think twice about giving your data to the government."], ["nothing wrong tbh. as long as they just didn't copy paste directly...its all good."]]}
+{"title": "RPK: Money can\u2019t buy lawyers so Tun M, Daim and Muhyiddin may have to fight their battle without legal assistance", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vqxyb/rpk_money_cant_buy_lawyers_so_tun_m_daim_and/", "num_comment": 17, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["This old man still making up random stories? He used to be an Anwar d1ckrider during the reformasi days.", "This guy lived overseas which means he can make the wildest claims towards Malaysia and get away with it. I'm not even surprised if he is not Malaysian anymore.", "Hes the cousin of the selangor king right?", "Yes and he currently staying in Manchester."], ["Lmao, money can't buy lawyers. We must be living in different worlds."], ["this fella once proclaimed confirm BN will win election because he had insiders , willing to bet etc. then PH won and he krik krik"], ["Man with no credibility and want to stay relevant cos need fund to survive in Manchester.. Once try to term himself to legendary Hang Jebat.. More like hang cipet"], ["Isnt it mahathir who challenge anwar to get him?\nHe is just answering the challenge, isn\u2019t he?"], ["\"Attorney-General (AG) has advised the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) and the Royal Malaysia Police (PDRM) that the manner in which action was taken against Daim and Dr Mahathir is both unlawful and went against the Federal Constitution. \u201cBut they (MACC and PDRM) have been instructed by Anwar (Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim) that action has to be taken against the trio by hook or by crook,\u201d Police and MACC used as political tools to silence political opponents/enemies?? \ud83d\ude06", "You missed the most important part in your quote above:\nInterestingly, the Manchester, UK-based RPK claimed that the Attorney-General (AG) has advised the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) and the Royal Malaysia Police (PDRM) that the manner in which action was taken against Daim and Dr Mahathir is both unlawful and went against the Federal Constitution.\n\u201cBut they (MACC and PDRM) have been instructed by Anwar (Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim) that action has to be taken against the trio by hook or by crook,\u201d asserted RPK.\nJust a reminder also that RPK is the very definition of yellow journalism, and that the article is entirely comprised of unsupported claims and allegations by him.", "RPK already completely lost his credibility since 1MDB days. We can just treat his words as total crap.", "Thanks for that. I used to read him. But he never credited sources. In the end it's all gossip and rumours. Disappointing all around.", "This was him 8 years ago. I'm still curious what kind of golden shower tape those higher ups have on him.\nhttps://www.sarawakreport.org/2015/09/surprise-surprise-look-who-is-here-rpk/", "Live long enough to become the Villian #SAD", "Have you heard about his son?\nI compiled this few years ago, maybe it's just a coincidence...\n2008 April, RPK wrote an expose in his blog about Najib/Rosmah's involvement in Altantuya's murder\n2008 May, RPK goes on trial for sedition\n2008 Jun, RPK in a statutory declaration claims that Rosmah was present during Altantuya's murder\n2008 Sep, RPK sent to Kamunting, gets two-year detention\n2008 Nov, RPK released from ISA after court order\n2009 Jan-April(?), RPK fled Malaysia\n2009 April, RPK fails to appear in court for sedition trial, arrest warrant issued\n2009 May, RPK's son pleads guilty to theft (First instance of the name \"Raja Azman Raja Petra\" appearing on google, no news about his arrest nor mention of his name exists prior to 19 May 2009)\n2009 May, RPK second arrest warrant issued\n2009 Jun, RPK's son changes plea to not guilty in theft case\n2010 Feb, RPK's son survive attempted suicide in Sungai Buloh prison, cut wrist and swallowed razor blades Doctor said no surgery required as he will shit out the blades naturally....\u30fd( \u0361\u00b0 \u035c\u0296 \u0361\u00b0)\u30ce\n2010 Sep, RPK\u2019s son freed of two charges\n2011 April, RPK retract accusation about Najib/Rosmah involvement in Altantuya case in TV3 interview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPFEx42cYog\n2011 July, RPK's son acquitted of all charges", "Fuh, now this is interesting, thanks for the timeline, I'm saving this if you don't mind."], ["Honestly it's not a bad idea. Get these old men in a boxing ring and let them Duke it out."]]}
+{"title": "Police Checkpoint along Jalan Ampang in Kuala Lumpur. 1950s", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vrfct/police_checkpoint_along_jalan_ampang_in_kuala/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["road sure are greener in the past /j"]]}
+{"title": "Seluang Sarawak, Rasbora sarawakensis", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vsb4l/seluang_sarawak_rasbora_sarawakensis/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "Ikan kecil (5-6 cm) yg di Malaysia hanya ada di selatan Sarawak, seperti Kuching dan Bau.\nMempunyai jalur biru yg memberi nama BI dia \u201cblue-line Rasbora\u201d. Tidak ada nilai komersial dalam negara.\nSeperti seluang lain, ia insektivor dan suka berenang ramai-ramai", "comments": [["Really neat spotlight on a local fish. Seems like a neat schooling fish to keep in a planted tank. Despite not being as eye catching as the more popular chilies they still look neat", "I think they are one of the most colourful true Rasbora species in Malaysia.\nMost are silvery like Rasbora myersi and Rasbora vulgaris. And some have no photographs due to rarity so I don\u2019t know about those"]]}
+{"title": "Funfact: Kuching Airport Starbucks", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vqaj9/funfact_kuching_airport_starbucks/", "num_comment": 6, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "You guys probably know, but a quick Funfact, that if you happened to be outside of Starbucks at upstairs I think you do a little planespotting there, but it just covers up a little bit of view.", "comments": [["The view is horrible though. The old airport before reno had better ones.", "That's I say about covers A little bit of view", "Don't know why you're downvoted but that's true."], ["Any other choices?"], ["Thanks a lot for the fun fact"]]}
+{"title": "Report: MACC to summon ex-PM, principal private secretary this week for questioning", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vqp7e/report_macc_to_summon_expm_principal_private/", "num_comment": 3, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Jeng Jeng Jeng ! ex- PM duringcovid-19 from east coast. Ismail Sabri \ud83e\udd23 So PMX continues vendetta against all those against him \ud83d\ude01", "He knows they will do the same shit to him. He is doing it while he has power now. Our politicians dont care about the rakyat but themselves only lol", "I mean, if the turtle committed any abuse of power to siphon money, it has to be done."]]}
+{"title": "Thank for free bus", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vw1zy/thank_for_free_bus/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "Happy trip in KL with GoKL bus ... free bus", "comments": [["\ud83d\udc13"]]}
+{"title": "We really should be more hyping the fact that our National team is about to play in a major international tournament in a few days", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vwvj0/we_really_should_be_more_hyping_the_fact_that_our/", "num_comment": 23, "flairlabel": ["Sports"], "header": "Regardless of what your opinion is on our National team\u2019s quality and how well they\u2019ll do in the tournament, we need to go all out and support them. If not, who will??", "comments": [["because the result will speak for themselves. keep winning and the hype will come naturally. sabah football team did just that.", "Sabah has been really impressive last year, especially in AFC Cup. Hope they remain as title (or more realistically 2nd place) challengers for the next few seasons", "Yeah I followed Cheah Liek Khou closely before the recent Paralympics and his noteriety was niche right until his performance in that badminton match. Soon enough I saw him racking a SHIT ton of supporters and followers overnight after he won."], ["Yeah we should. Asian Cup is the highest achievable spot for us imo."], ["Just air it on RTM for free like the ol day", "sekarang dah takde kat rtm ke?"], ["This is the second Asian Cup after expanding to 24 teams from 16 teams, with 6 groups of 4.\nTop 2 of each group will progress to the Round of 16.\nThe best 4 3rd-place teams will also join the 12 teams above.\nMalaysia is in the same group as Jordan, Bahrain and South Korea. We play those 3 in that order.\nCan basically forget about getting anything from South Korea, just hope Son Heung-min don't score more than 1. Though our coach Kim Pan-gon (KPG) used to be youth coach for South Korea himself, so that might count for something.\nUnder KPG our FIFA ranking has actually gone up due to us qualifying for the Asian Cup for the first time since 1980 (2007 doesn't count since we were joint hosts).\nFor a football minnow nation like us, we should be aiming for at least 1 of these 3 objectives:\nScore at least 1 goal overall. And if we are to lose, try not to concede more than 3 goals per match.\nGet at least 1 point (i.e. 1 draw, even a 0-0 counts towards that. We got 0pts in 2007)\nTry to finish 3rd and hope we're good enough as one of the 4 best 3rd-place teams, to give us another match in the knockout rounds (though nobody dare to hope for more afterwards)\nWill probably catch the highlights for the matches (if we don't get thrashed too badly), but as others have said, this isn't exactly the WC, and many of us are still more interested in higher quality competitions like the English Premier League and UEFA Champions League.\nIt will take Malaysia progressing from the group stage in order to heighten awareness for this tournament."], ["Back when DUNHILL used to sponsor Selangor, there were match schedules EVERYWHERE at all the mamak and kopitiam selling cigarettes\nDUNHILL used to plonk on M-League on local TV all the time, with lots of adverts in the newspapers, local magazines and tv1\nThese new sponsors don't do squat\nEvery single time Malaysia attempts to bypass mediocrity, they just revel in the moment instead of planning for the future\nWe had the BEST F1 back in the 90s, with hotels, bars, clubs all chiming in. You had F1 cars in hotels, clubs. F1 drivers partying in KL. Merchandise sold in Bukit Bintang. But towards the latter years, no one bothered to promote anything"], ["FAM macam biasa la. Patut ada tournament jersey, but they\u2019ll be using the same old one. Cam bangang."], ["tbh as a football fan, I can't wait!! I'll go crazy if Arif Aiman blazes past Kim Min-jae and the Korean defense.\nI just don't have the funds to fly to Qatar......"], ["Tournament tak start lagi nak hype apa. Dekat seminggu nanti baru la start borak", "I mean the tournament is just two weeks away and its the first time malaysia is playing the tournament after around 40 years so yeah we should be excited as hell. Dalam thread tu sendiri ada cakap asian cup ni macam euro or copa america so betul juga post tu.", "Takde content lagi kot nak sembang. Boleh sembang pun prediction siapa lepas grp stage, formation apa nak main. Nanti lepas arif aiman kitai kim min jae atau dion cools parap heung min son baru aa rancak borak"], ["ill be blunt\n- winning the tournament doesn't book a slot to world cup\n- the match where HM beat kyrgyzstan was for wc qualification round, hence the louder noise\n- even without malaysia participation, do you watch Asian Cup?\ncomparing with world cup hype is like between apple and oranges. euro or copa america would make much sense, as its the same level of major competition within region.\nthat said, i believe the squad will do its best to gain as much international experience as they can. real test is on the WC quals which involves 4-5 phases depending on achievements. although you can say Asian Cup would be a testament on the actual level of our national team."], ["Don\u2019t have much expectation for them. But go go Harimau Malaya\u2764\ufe0f"], ["Me, not a football fan, I don't get the excitement, but would be happy to sit down and watch our boys play, anytime."], ["Tengok JDT penuh stadium, tengok Piala Asia? it is more emptier than Times Square's malls LOL."], ["We really should be more hyping...\nNah.. zero hype for me. Don't even watch world cup or any football league.", "Then youre not the target audience la der"], ["We should just focus on sports we're good at like Badminton, Hockey and Takraw. Be like Indian and Pakistan, they focus more on crickets than football.\nMalaysian football is a waste of investment. No big European club will pay Malaysian club millions for our players", "a \"waste of investment\" is always a sustained commitment away from being a gold mine.\nLook at JDT, the most dominant team in Malaysia; I don't really like the team that much because they seem to always win, but kudos to TMJ - the sustained commitment he made towards that team, means that:\nthey go out of their way to build world-class facilities (e.g. new stadium and modern training centre) for the players,\nthey hire well-known proven coaches from overseas (e.g. Esteban Solari who was assistant coach for Argentina youth national team),\nthey bring in well-known high quality foreign players (e.g. Mauricio, Forestieri - they have played actively in Top 5 European leagues before coming to JDT)\nthey naturalize foreign players who come here to play long term (e.g. Sumareh),\nthey recruit good players with Malaysian ties to come play for club and country (e.g. Corbin-Ong),\nand build strategic partnerships with European teams (Dortmund) to further improve their team.\nIn the end, both the club and the national team improve tremendously as a result of good players, coaches, facilities and methodologies, and other teams are inspired to follow suit and play catch-up with JDT, who are praised as pioneers and visionaries.\nNow JDT is highly regarded as one of the best teams in Southeast Asia, and have enjoyed great success in local and regional competitions.\nAs for the million dollar player thing, thanks to these investments in coaching and training, JDT has uncovered many great talent from within the country, most notably Arif Aiman who is gaining attention from big Asian clubs in Japan, Korea...... etc due to his performances in regional competitions.\nSo why not make that commitment? Don't avoid it because no one has ever done it before and you're scared of failing, do it to show them how they can do it themselves.", "All the effort just to be the #130 team in the world? Why be number 130th in football when we can be top 10 in hockey, badminton, takraw or other sports we actually good at? We shouldn't overspend on football development but let it progress naturally", "We are #130 but we are punching well above our weight class at times. Compared to where we were a few years ago being 160th and below, this is a massive improvement.\nfor me \"natural progress\" is basically another term for \"leaving it to rot\". Modern sports is about the money; without substantial, long-term investment and dedication, you cannot expect huge improvements like what we saw with the national team.", "Even with the wealth that the Saudis have, they'll never be as good as other poorer nation like Morocco, Algiers and Senegal. We lost financially against richer nation. We also lost talent wise against poorer nations. The best solution is to let the sports grow naturally. If it were meant to rot, so be it."]]}
+{"title": "ICYMI: Plan to buy things online? Take note that low-value goods (under RM500) shipped from overseas will be imposed a 10% sales tax effective today, 1st January 2024.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vvejj/icymi_plan_to_buy_things_online_take_note_that/", "num_comment": 4, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "https://soyacincau.com/2023/12/18/malaysia-low-value-goods-10-pct-tax-online-shopping-shipped-overseas/", "comments": [["I pay the 10% during the purchase right?", "Yup", "But what if I buy it from an online store abroad, instead of something like Lazada / Shopee ?\nI will have to pay when the parcel arrives at kastam ?", "iirc, you do need to pay for that 10% any items that being imported from other country to Malaysia will be charged with that 10% tax."]]}
+{"title": "PADU online portal. Expected to open 12am 2hb Jan 2024. I will attempt to login (if it doesn't hang). URL below.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vslio/padu_online_portal_expected_to_open_12am_2hb_jan/", "num_comment": 16, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "https://www.padu.gov.my/", "comments": [["The middle class will sweat because they do not know what they will lose after disclosure . \ud83d\ude05", "Suddenly taxed af. So better check so govt don't Oops and make a mistake :26559:", "You just exceeded our cutoff limit for petrol subsidy by rm200. You have to pay full price from next month.", "You joke but it happened to my mom. It was her first experience filing tax relief on her own after my father suffered from stroke and had to take long sabbatical leave from work.\nDue to my father long keave, she accidently check my father as unemployed which grants tax relief of RM4000. Thing is Inland Revenue double checked the info with my dad's account and found that he is still employed. So my mom didn't receive the RM4000 relief and still pay the actual amount of income tax.\nThat was in 2019\nThis year, a letter from Inland revenue came demanding almost RM2000 from her in additional tax from that one misclick years ago.\nSo please verify data with PADU or other gov agencies to be correct else you'll pay the price", "More like: Fuel getting expensive? Why not convert to EV? We have rebates, no road tax fee for first year boa bla bla. Oh btw we're increasing the electricity tariff. Majulah bersama Madani \ud83e\udef6\ud83c\udffb\u2764\ufe0f", "200k ev \u2620\ufe0f", "There are cheaper EVs. But yes cheapest is probably RM110K"], ["they still dont change the ai background only blur it a bit so people dont notice lmao:26554:"], ["What is PADU (from Soyacincau.com) .\nThe objective of PADU is to combine all the data from various government agencies into a single database. Through PADU, the government believe that it will be able to get a clearer picture of the household income in Malaysia which would then enable it to distribute subsidies more effectively as well as establish better policies in the future.\nWhen users log into PADU, they will see more than 270 data fields in the system. In addition to personal information such as full name, MyKad number, and age, you will also be able to see information regarding dependents, income, vehicles, and many more.\nIn other words, you don\u2019t have to input information into the system from scratch. All in all, what PADU needs for you is to verify and update the information that it has gathered from other agencies although do note that you only have up until 31 March 2024 to do this.", "Says combine data from various gov agencies. So why do we need to key in details manually? Im sure all the data they need can get at str, lhdn, epf, jpn, kastam, immigration and so on.", "From what I've read before in another article, you don't really need to key in any info unless your info in the database pulled from various agencies are outdated."], ["data are secure ?", "Probably not"], ["Still not open :29091: Malaysia Boleh!"], ["What the hell is this anyway"]]}
+{"title": "High-profile court cases to look out for in 2024", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vmfzp/highprofile_court_cases_to_look_out_for_in_2024/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["I thought the stalker case would be critical since he is the first person to be charged under the law, but no, it was just a byline under the Paul Yong rape case.\nThe stalker trial will set a precedent for subsequent stalkers in Malaysia. Too low a punishment and it fails to be a deterrent."], ["Very good read actually, thank you for sharing OP!"]]}
+{"title": "Happy new (tax) year everyone.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vnabl/happy_new_tax_year_everyone/", "num_comment": 69, "flairlabel": ["Meme Monday"], "header": "", "comments": [["For Malaysian memes every day of the week, please check out c/memeeveryday at our sister community monyet.cc! (why?)\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns."], ["It mentions that items \"brought\" into malaysia, so if its merchants who dropship from outside of malaysia, they get taxed, but products who locally ship within malaysia are exempt from the 10% tax?", "Yeah, pretty much that. The rule is just extension to the current import tax for purchases from overseas, just with items under RM500 included now.", "So as long as the online merchant's I buy from ship within Malaysia, I won't get penalized with the 10% tax id it's below rm 500.", "Buying directly from an overseas vendor still seems to be cheaper than a dropshipper."], ["baik kasi balik 6% gst", "Anwar will add the 6% on top of the current sst and lvg", "With GST, everything you buy is taxed 6%. SST has a far narrower scope of things taxed."], ["I find it kinda weird when it's being \"demonized\" as increasing the cost, not being considerate of the B40s etc etc. But, the fact is just that they're removing the threshold exemption on import duty for goods below RM500.\nBuy from a local producer/distributor, done. I guess now importers would do things in bulk, which may be a good thing since buying in bulk would usually give you bulk discount. But, this could also give a reason for sellers to up the price for the \"risk premium\" too.\nI guess, bad marketing?", "Its because generally sellers will raise price instead.\nIf you locally price your item at RM3 and foreign equivalent items went from RM3.50 to RM 3.85, you know the market can bear a RM0.50 difference, so you will raise your price to RM3.35. Still 50 sens lower. Your net profit may literally double from this.\nNot everyone will do it... But generally this will happen or atleast is perceived to happen.", "correct me i am wrong but isn't the main reason people buy foreign equivalent items because it's more cheaper? Wouldn't saying foreign equivalent items went from RM2.50 to RM 3.10 would be more accurate as the purpose is to give local supplier the advantage. But if local supplier took the opportunity to raise it to rm 3.30-3.50 instead just seem counterproductive.", "But if local supplier took the opportunity to raise it to rm 3.30-3.50 instead just seem counterproductive.\nWelcome to economics. The government may want to do A, but get B result. People are greedy and will game the system.\nhttps://www.smh.com.au/property/news/governments-spent-20-5b-on-first-home-buyer-help-that-pushes-up-prices-report-20220707-p5azx3.html\nAust gov gave (so to speak) free money for first time home buyers, hoping to increase home ownership. House sellers naik harga since (a subset of) buyers budget increased.\n\"Australian governments spent more than $20.5 billion on first home buyer help in the past decade, which made housing affordability worse by driving up property prices and left existing homeowners richer, new research found.\"\ncorrect me i am wrong but isn't the main reason people buy foreign equivalent items because it's more cheaper?\nI buy cos more options... But price is definitely a plus point. Just saw someone's house deco snow globe thingy. RM170 got blowing 'snow', 6ft stand, lights, moving pieces AND music. Price include delivery. Wtf kind of price is that wei. (from taobao)\nSo now its more expensive and I'm relatively sure no one locally can fabricate it for sub rm200. There's atleast 2 independent small motors inside. Maybe 3.\nAnyway, we do the cheap export thing too, lol. https://www.malaysia-today.net/2012/01/18/protons-more-expensive-in-malaysia-than-overseas/", "Thanks for sharing , it just sad always got these people lying around waiting pounce on this kind of advantage, in the end the government was the one getting flakked even if the intention of policies is rational", "It's partially a protectionism thing. Let local producers profit more. It's fine if they raise salary together.\nBuy Malaysian products", "... They won't?\nSalaries don't go up cos its contracted. Government in 2024 may abolish this tax. Or reduce by 50% to 5%. Salaries can't (or hard) to go down.\nAlso owners will think... Staff same work, price difference only... Why they deserve increase. I tak harap the owners in general, jaded already.", "What happens if I buy 2x shoes in the example given? Would it still be taxed? Does that not mean bulk ordering will still result in each unit being taxed 10%?", "My bad, I got it wrong. I misunderstood how the tax works, I'm really sorry. It is charged not by total value, but by sales value of the goods. So, it'll be charged item per item.\nSo, if we're importing 10 units of something worth RM100 each (total import value of RM1000), still be taxed for each item.", "Anything imported >rm500 has always been taxed btw and that isn't changing.\nI actually don't mind the tax too much but the process itself is quite a hassle if not expensive. Each claim you always have to pay rm18 fee on top of the 10% and if you don't want to drive to the airport yourself to claim your parcel then you have to pay another rm50 on top of the rm18 and the 10%. At least that's how it was before", "What I mean is that the tax is charged as per single unit, not total value. As long as the unit price is below RM500, it will be taxed. I was correcting my previous comment.", "What is the difference between charging as per single unit with charging as per total value tho since it's always 10% anyway regardless if the stuff is >rm500 or not?", "Oh damn, I'm dumb. No difference in buying in bulk one way or another too. Thanks for pointing that out. I feel so stupid rn."], ["How can they find out if you buy from overseas ?", "Visible players like Shopee & Lazada will comply. Probably added to their platform already.", "umm,the items from overseas have to go through customs right?", "Managed by kastam, inspected by kastam, go through kastam"], ["so is it LGV or LVG? lol", "Low Value Goods", "yeah LVG makes more sense, i am just picking on the spelling mistake in the picture lol", "I read that as Louis Vuitton Goods. So atas sia", "Louis van Gaal", "The Customs Department uses LVG, so it\u2019s probably that."], ["Previously somebody here on this topic said the imported items were never taxed so this law is to close the loophole, is this true?"], ["Tax is for the benefits of the country. Don't complain. Expect less potholes/religious agendas/racism this year /s", "Yes, Tax helps to benefit the country... IF AND ONLY IF they are actually used for the country.", "affordable education/health services ?", "both education/health services are still a joke after all the stupid taxes since gst crap.", "joke to you but not to the poor", "Yes let's help the poor by tax the poor,10/10 smart move.", "but this is not GST right?", "Tax for buying goods from overseas below rm500,I don't see any difference here, don't tell just beli buatan Malaysia la because most of the stuff we use on daily basis except food are from overseas,you think this will help local sellers when most of the stuff they sold were bought from overseas? they buy cheap from China sell it here with markup prices and government want to protect them and not us as consumers?", "just to feed the malay"], ["Does it get charged upon payment check out? Anyone know how it is implemented?", "From the items in my cart that I remember, the 10% is already added to the displayed price. This is true for both Lazada and Shopee. A lot of them are more than 10% too ;_;", "Arghhhh whether it\u2019s overseas sellers local, I feel like all prices sure go up since many local sellers also get their stock from overseas :("], ["Ah yes now all my taobao order will kena tax. Good year"], ["What about items from eBay? Does it mean we\u2019ll get double tax? I bought items from US and was taxed. Would I get taxes twice here?"], ["Inilah Malaysia Madani. Rakyat susah", "Ini untuk barang import.", "Yeap kita tak perlu risau, pada tahun 2379 kelak Malaysia akan menjadi hab penghalisan and pemprosesan barangan terutama di dunia. Kita tidak perlu lagi bergantung dengan barangan dari negara luar. Wawasan Madanon 2420 :29091::29091::29091:", "no, i want cheap crap from overseas", "Berape peratus barang yg jual online bkn import? lol. Local seller kalo nmpk harga barang online dah naik harga, ko igt diorg tak naik juga ke?", "tahu la"], ["Please don't complain guys, you'll see how reforms will benefit us in the long run. Give or take 70-80 years. By then our currency will be higher than SGD (Singapura sudah tenggelam bawah laut) :26554::26554::26554:\nYay, let us pay more taxes :29091::29091::29091::29091:"], ["For those asking for GST back, I can\u2019t help but wonder, how often and how much are you all spending on items from overseas?\nI remember GST, it fucking hurts to see that extra 6% charge on every spending. This is especially true for someone not earning city level salaries.\nOn average I only order overseas items a few times a year, mostly because local stores are significantly more expensive. While I hate LVG tax as much as the next person, in my case it won\u2019t be as impactful as the all encompassing net that was GST.\nAlso, I remember how our government promised to use GST funds to improve public transport. What does that means for Sabahans? Jack shit!\nUntil there\u2019s transparency, I say no to GST."], ["Yeayyyyyy more taxes. pantek"], ["For those saying us buying overseas item just because of cheap price, there some item that are only available overseas but have page on online platform.\n<image>"], ["Got problem?"], ["Terbaik mahaldahni"], ["So you made 41k in sale this month then?"], ["and if we buy from oversea ourselves how do we pay the taxes? hire Postage agent? have to pay agent fees on top of the 10% tax?", "yea i wonder as well. don't forget the rm18 fee for the form (borang)"], ["Dumbest tax ever"], ["previously many ppl shop from overseas but underdeclare the value to avoid tax. example the item rm1k, will get taxed, but if declare rm400 no tax. so government rugi alot of tax on these. then now they include the items below 500 lo"], ["", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of Rule 1: Bigotry and hate speech. Because of our history Malaysia talks about certain issues such as race very differently from Western countries. We acknowledge this on the subreddit but do draw some boundaries to keep discussions healthy.\nDefinition of bigotry: The act of treating the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.\nBasic principle: If it's an attribute of a person that is out of their control and extremely hard or impossible to change, it's not nice to dump on them or their group just for that attribute.\nSome categories this applies to: Race, religion, sexuality, disability, national origin.\nSlurs: Use of slurs on the above categories is not encouraged on this subreddit and may be subject to warnings and bans.\nExample: Religion: It's okay to discuss and criticise aspects of the religion itself, but it's not okay to attack people because they are members of that religion (e.g.: Islam but not Muslims).\nBanned 1 day for repeated offence."], ["Be frugal. Use as much vouchers/coupons as you can. They help reduce the price a bit."], ["Highkey upset cuz i got posted (healthcare field) to east malaysia. Do you know how exp it is to pay shopee lazada shipping fees? And rural areas is very hard to buy stuff in local stores \ud83e\udd72 I survived off china online shopping for daily stuff. The shipping fees + product cost = more affordable than local stores\u2026.."], ["Few years back i ordered whey protein from Europe. Total was 900. Shipping was free stated in invoice which customs saw. They decided to charge me 50% tax at 450 ringgit. I no time to go customs so used poslaju broker service at rm50 to clear for me and bring to nearest pos malaysia office for pickup. I never ordered from overseas again now that the brand is sold here. I do know will kena tax but i read it was like under 10%. But mine charged 50%! What in the world. They said customs officer moody that day so my bad luck."], ["Genuine question, what\u2019s manufactured in Malaysia and not imported?"]]}
+{"title": "Malaysian visitors add RM267mil to Hatyai economy during festive season", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vykua/malaysian_visitors_add_rm267mil_to_hatyai_economy/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Four new deaths, 50% surge in Covid-19 variant infections in S\u2019wak", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vmfcg/four_new_deaths_50_surge_in_covid19_variant/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["COVID-19"], "header": "", "comments": [["Mask up, people."]]}
+{"title": "Visiting Malaysia during Ramadan?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18w2dvm/visiting_malaysia_during_ramadan/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "Hello\nMe and two friends are looking at a trip to Malaysia during Ramadan, and we are non muslims, not interested in anything with ramadan.\nWe are interested in having a good time, scuba diving, enjoying the beaches, nature and wildlife, and of course also to enjoy a beer in the evening and perhaps a party or two. We are 30 yr olds.\nHow will Ramadan affect our trip? Will Hostels be empty? Will bars and restaurants be closed? Will activities be restricted?\nAny insight would be greatly appreciated, before we evaluate if we go forward with this.\nThank you", "comments": [["Hello! Eateries & bars will be open during Ramadan so no worries there. I don\u2019t think hostels are ever empty and no, activities won\u2019t be restricted whatsoever!"], ["Will Hostels be empty? Will bars and restaurants be closed?\n> In the city? never. You might want to check on hotel prices as it might be cheap for you. Hostel can be hit and miss at times.\nscuba diving, enjoying the beaches, nature and wildlife\n> Rural areas tends to be Muslim majority. Some areas still have non-muslim resident so there is a possibility you can find Chinese eateries but they follow specific opening hours. In towns you should be able to easily find KFC/ McDonalds as last resort - in general food options should be there in towns. It really depends where you have this activities. You better check in advance if the operators are fasting."], ["Plenty of places still open, its not as bad as the Middle East where its legit trickier to find open restaurants during fasting hours - Malaysia has a larger number of non-muslims (30%+) so establishments run by non muslims are still operating as usual. That or happy eating fast food."], ["Probably the best time to visit as well. During day time restaurants, malls and tourist attractions are definitely less pack than usual"]]}
+{"title": "MP compares Nurul Izzah to Benazir Bhutto, proposes she leads PKR in GE16", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18w06ir/mp_compares_nurul_izzah_to_benazir_bhutto/", "num_comment": 10, "flairlabel": ["Politics"], "header": "Hassan Karim says the party vice-president is \u2018prime minister material\u2019.", "comments": [["Not sure if he was being a sycophant or sarcastic here. Surely, Anwar and Izzah aren't as bad as Zulfikar-Benazir or Sukarno-Megawati yeah?\nShould've given a more valid comparison smh", "like who, Yingluck Shinawatra? /s"], ["Nepo baby who singlehandedly lost the seat her family felt they had a divine right to is somehow being touted as a PM candidate. Meme levels of political commentary lol.", "You know what's funny about that is she's still acting like the MP at Permatang Pauh simply because a lot of people there asking for her help because they don't know where the PN MP's office lol.\nThere was a case earlier this year that she helped getting some new bikes for a group of neighbours where their bikes had been burned.\nThe PN MP came and offered a prayer.\nA prayer.", "To them, that was the best thing they could have given to their malay voters.", "R\u00e9sum\u00e9 [1]:\nAhli Parlimen Permatang Pauh\nCEO Yayasan Darul Hadis Al Filfilaniyyah\nBekas Eksekutif Zakat Pulau Pinang\nPendakwah\nExco Dewan Pemuda Pas Negeri Pulau Pinang\nExco Dewan Pemuda Pas Kawasan Permatang Pauh\nAhli Jawatankuasa Lajnah Keahlian Ulamak Pelapis\nPenasihat Majlis Ilmu Pulau Pinang\nPenasihat Sekolah Rendah Intergrasi Teras Islam (SRITI) Darul Hadis\nAhli Lembaga Pengarah Maahad Tahfiz Kejai\nChildren [2]:\n11\nHobby:\nMengawan\n[1] https://pru.sinarharian.com.my/calon/5097/muhammad-fawwaz-mohamad-jan\n[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Fawwaz_Mohamad_Jan\nTrivia: he is age 40, which means he has been actively procreate in the last 10 years."], ["I actually think nurul is the 1 running mof right now. Anwar just sign off whatver nurul gives him.\nI believe nurul was actually the 1 anwar wants to be minister of finance. But he knows full well it wont go well politically. So, he just puts himself as mof, but the one actually running it in the shadows is nurul.", "Your assumption is completely inaccurate."], ["I don't think Izzah wants people to compare her to the politician who was assassinated by the Islamist."], ["Yes. Benazir Bhutto Pak Hang"]]}
+{"title": "Ipoh to Cameron Highlands by motorbike/scooter safe?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vtufw/ipoh_to_cameron_highlands_by_motorbikescooter_safe/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "Hello everyone,\nwe are wondering if it\u2018s safe to go from Ipoh to the Cameron Highlands by rented bikes and I can\u2018t really find infos online.\nIs the road condition good and the traffic ok? Asking mainly because the wife doesn\u2018t like mad traffic at all. But I reckon it\u2018s the best way to see a lot of stuff in the highlands instead of going on a guided tour.\nThank you for your answers!", "comments": [["if it rains heavily, not so"], ["The roads aren't bad for most part. It's pretty regular road until you reach Cameron, then the roads get a tad bit worse at some places. The traffic can be terrible depending on when you go as it is a favourite get away spot for many Malaysians.\nGenerally if you can, go on a non-holiday week day and gtfo on Saturday at latest."], ["It\u2019s possible. But it will rain and you will probably freeze when wet on the mountain. If it doesn\u2019t there is a possibility that those rented bikes are gonna overheat. The traffic is not too bad on some days better than others but I would not recommend going on that trip without the right gear and preparation. But in case u still wanna go you should book in the Smokehouse it\u2019s an amazing place to stay on the Cameron\u2019s. Have fun and enjoy Malaysia."], ["Yes, it's safe. You'd need something with a bit more grunt to get up the hills though, so most rental scooters below 155 cc are not suitable unless riding solo.\nIf you need more info please DM."], ["Can anyone recommend a good private driver for the day?"]]}
+{"title": "Malaysia set to lose 2.3m hectares due to deforestation", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vtmks/malaysia_set_to_lose_23m_hectares_due_to/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Should we overhaul the driver\u2019s education system?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vos0j/should_we_overhaul_the_drivers_education_system/", "num_comment": 51, "flairlabel": ["Education"], "header": "I can\u2019t help but feel that our driver\u2019s education system is flawed. Looking at the average Malaysian driver\u2019s mentality and mindset, I believe that it is holding us back from our society\u2019s potential.\nWould it be better if licensing in Malaysia were more similar to the processes in Europe?", "comments": [["These mfs have no idea how roundabouts work. First 10 lessons going around roundabouts.", "I kid you not, when I attended driver's school, neither the lessons nor the exams covered roundabouts. The \"left lane to exit 1 and 2, right lane for exit 3 and so on\" thing was discovered by me on the internet only recently.", "Its in the book and syllabus, you guys need to study that to pass the exam right?", "My undang \"teacher\" was thirty minutes late to the class. He never covered that topic, nor did any related questions came up in the exam (by some chance idk). My mother, who also taught me how to drive, also seemed oblivious of that law. When it comes to roundabouts, her solution is \"just don't drive parallel to others, they might need to change lanes\".\nNevertheless, I live in a small town (Ipoh) and traffic isn't too heavy, so you can agak2 your way through roundabouts. Things only changed when I came to KL.", "Man, that kinda explains why people are so clueless around roundabouts in the klang valley. Sabah they quite pro, maybe better training.", "Because in Sabah if you suck at roundabouts you probably will get hit by Hilux\nI travel to Sabah frequently for work and I had to git gud at learning how to drive in Sabah.\nDriving in WM is ezpz just gotta watch out for the J/P/D plates, or a random Myvi going the speed of sound", "I don't recall having a \"undang\" teacher \ud83d\ude05 Thought it was just a booklet to memorize", "Im gonna take the middle", "Agreed. Trying to use a roundabout will give me a heart attack especially here in JB.", "Roundabouts are second nature for me.\nI live in Shah Alam.", "My god Shah Alam have a roundabout fetish. Good thing people there are good at it.", "i just kena this idiot using roundabout twice. normal road he's driving normally, slightly slower than other cars but that's fine. once he reach roundabout and he wants to take a 3 o'clock he'll go to the left lane then force the inner lane car to brake so he can take the 3 o'clock.\n2nd time he was behind me, near roundabout he cuts out to the left, speeds up and tries to do the same thing. this time to me.\nwtf seriously."], ["The problem is they don't care, not they don't know", "Should give them real consequences then. The duit kopi has got to stop and real enforcement should be carried out responsibility. This whole situation is a chicken and egg problem.", "Duit kopi has to stop? Bro, even Santa will ask what colour you want your dragon to be.", "How does duit kopi relate to santa and dragon colours?", "It's a joke. Christmas joke.", "Point he\u2019s making is that Santa asking about what colour you want your dragon to be is more likely to happen than corruption getting curbed", "Well it's easier to migrate to a country that has strict rule of law than to hope to change this lek lu cincai country from top to bottom", "Just get rid of roads and cars. Build more public transport and convert roads into pedestrian and cycling lanes.\nNo road, no car, no asshole driver. Problem solved."], ["This was an actual quote from my driving teacher: \"Malaysian driving test is the easiest to pass and easiest to die.\"", "Very accurate"], ["Oh it definitely is flawed. Duit kopi settles everything. Theory just covers maybe 20% of what you actually need to know. And fuck me how are people still clueless about using roundabouts? It\u2019s as if once we enter one, all rules don\u2019t apply."], ["The problem is not in the teaching but the attitude and the enforcement. Just take a look at the highly educated nations with high HDI such as Singapore \u2014 as soon as they cross the border the whole civilised mindset is put on pause.", "Well said.", "Haha that's very true. My friend says Singaporeans turn into devils on msian roads."], ["No need.\nWe just need enforcement.", "Enforcement more on lane hogger, blur driver and phone use.", "You will need education on enforcement, and corruption too.", "Yea this. We got a handbook of rules (not sure now, I'm old). Everything from round abouts, lane-merging and T-junctions were all there. Though the emphasis at the time was a lot on passing and memorising the steps to do so, like everything other educational thing in this country."], ["I personally do feel that the driving syllabus should be more technical covering basic defensive driving techniques. There should also be like an annual/bi annual rechecks (?) or recertifications for senior citizens after they passed a certain age to certify that they are still fit for driving especially in terms of vision and hearing capabilities"], ["Lesen very expensive overhaul that first"], ["In addition to this, the way roads are designed is plain stupid. Road markings are often not up to date, and the roads themselves are not well maintained. Highways should also be designed properly. I remember trying to enter a highway only for there to be a fucking wall on the on-ramp."], ["I took Singapore's Basic Theory Test (same as our Undang) during my licence conversion. Their Undang has one important thing that ours didn't teach --- what to do when your car skids.\nThey also have two theory tests before the practical, first is this Basic Theory Test, then they have a Final Theory Test"], ["I think rather than education being the main problem, the attitude of drivers are the issue, like I bet there's 3 people here that will say \"I don't care how gila I drive my car, if my car can drive 200km/h, I will drive 200km/h in taman area.\""], ["Yes.\nWhen I took my lessons they didn't even teach you how to physically change a tire. I wanted to but the instructor was like 'tak payah lah' which is absurd because knowing how to change a tire in theory doesn't translate to being actually able to change a tire. So many corners cut.\nAlso the bribes. So shit.", "I agree. Most of my driving skills and mentality comes from those driving school youtube channels. My instructor prepared me for passing the exam and maybe a bit of knowledge about Malaysian roads. So far, I\u2019ve been teaching myself \u201creal driving skills\u201d ever since getting my Ps."], ["Wholeheartedly agree. Ill be marked misogynistic but get fucked, some bitches doesnt know how to drive. Hogging fast lane going 30kmph while playing phone, IN THE HIGHWAY. They dont even watch right or left they just fucking move masa tukar simpang. Almost died twice this month.\nMen does shit like this too, but its just more common among women, or at least where im from. And its tiring sia tukar lane pun x bagi signal. Belajar apa masa lesen ntah."], ["Every time I\u2019m in Malaysia I\u2019m amazed how bad people drive. In my country the number of road fatalities is 88 per 10 million inhabitants. In Malaysia the same statistic is 410.000, so about 4700 times worse.", "True. I just came back to Malaysia after visiting Australia for a while and I truly got a reverse culture shock at how people drive. There might be some Aussie bad apples on the road here and there but drivers are generally pretty great there. Meanwhile, I forgot how crazy Malaysian traffic is."], ["Strict enforcement and punishment. Like ccp. Got saman? Cannot renew license. Each saman will deduct point. After reaching 0, gantung license.\nActually we do have that, but biasa ya bayar duit kopi boleh settle. So in the end, ketamakan is the main cause.", "Someone: If you don't have license, they cannot gantung your license"], ["For me, need ongoing strict enforcement. This may very likely be unpopular, but the gov needs to stand their ground on this 1 instead of worry too much on what people say in twitter.", "I\u2019ve got an idea. Why do we even announce speed cameras? Shouldn\u2019t they be kept hidden as to their location? If we know where the cameras are, nobody will actually follow the speed limit outside of the zones.", "This actually started when AES introduced. Many people questioned the legality of speed traps. If im not mistaken, the findings were, need to inform road users there are speed traps in the area.", "Maybe it's because nobody follows the speed limit inside the zones if you don't announce it"], ["no. stricter law and enforcement. heavier penalty for all offenses. education dont do shit when everybody else on the road are idiots"], ["No one knows how to use roundabouts in JB (Speaking from a citizen from Kluang - we have 5 roundabouts and most of us are born to be expert in it xDD). So it actually depends on where do you from and how does the driver behaves in there."], ["<image>\nThis means go; yes?"], ["I read that annual road fatalities in Malaysia is 1,3 million. Let\u2019s say driver education radically improves - won\u2019t this create a population problem? Basically you will need to provide housing for additional 1 million people annually."]]}
+{"title": "9 Malaysian business & industry trends we predict will take off in 2024", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vm5vc/9_malaysian_business_industry_trends_we_predict/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "How to publish a book", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vw288/how_to_publish_a_book/", "num_comment": 4, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Since I was 12, I really enjoy to read fantasy novel especially Japanese light novel. I always dream that there's one day I will be able to create my own story and publish it. I want to see people enjoy reading my fantasy book like the first time I read it.\nI already got a story. My target audience is teenager and children. I'm trying to find a suitable way to publish my book in Malaysia. Please help me \ud83d\ude4f", "comments": [["I do remember one of nyets asked how to publish a book, but I think that nyets already deleted the account. (I still keep the copy book that nyets gave me, which is the title is 'The porcelain princess & other fairytales' by Natalie Fu)\nLast time I gave the advice few years ago was, try ask nearby local library."], ["There was another nyet that published and sold e book. I've purchased it. Maybe you can give that a try?", "Ohh, thank u for that suggestion"], ["All kind of comes down to which route you wanna go? Traditional publishing or self publishing? Assuming you already have a finished manuscript.\nTrad publishing is a bit harder to get into than self, mainly because there are a lot of gates to pass through. If you're targeting international markets, you probably will have to try and pitch your manuscripts to agents, who will in turn try and sell it to publishers (i.e. Penguin, HarperCollins etc.). In this case, typically everything from the editing, to promotion, book covers etc. will be taken care of by the publisher, and I believe the agent's fees comes from your advance. Until you get picked up by a publisher, I believe you don't pay a cent.\nThen there's the middle ground, which is still sort of trad publishing. Approaching an indie publisher directly. You don't really need to engage an agent, and the publisher will still work on editing, book covers with you, but you will be expected to do some of the promo on your own through your socmed etc. Their reach won't be as good. Local publishers I feel also fall into this category, like https://fixi.com.my/. I believe you can actually engage them directly to send your manuscripts to them.\nSelf publishing is where you are responsible for the writing, editing, book cover and even promotion. This is where you put in the most money, but typically if you're consistent, your income can be decent. There are fewer barriers to entry, but since most folks typically do judge books by their cover, then paying for good artwork and even editing is almost a must. You can then upload to places like Amazon.\nStay away from vanity presses who promise you publishing for a fee. They just aim to make the money off your desire to see the book published physically (thus why they're called vaniity presses)."]]}
+{"title": "Malaysian Hindu community perception of Cultured Meat", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vxq4w/malaysian_hindu_community_perception_of_cultured/", "num_comment": 6, "flairlabel": ["Food"], "header": "Hello i\u2019m an undergraduate student, i plan for my research project to be centred around the Malaysian Hindu community\u2019s perception and acceptance of cultured meat. And if i were to do a survey what is the appropriate channel or place i should be spreading my survey to ensure a good amount of participants to represent a good portion of the population \ud83e\udd79\ud83e\udd79 please help guide me thanks a bunch xx", "comments": [["Why hindu? Most vegan and vegetarian communities would be the best audience for cultured meat (myself included)", "Well im doing this research to study the acceptance of cultured meat in malaysia before bringing in cultured meat into the malaysian market. Since religion is a big part of malaysia i decided to study both the muslim and hindu community\u2019s views but i already have the muslim part covered for the survey. Right now im trying to find the best way to get my survey to reach a good amount of audience and hopefully get enough data for my research. I specifically want it to be tied to religion.", "Fair enough.", "Thank u for responding!"], ["I don't believe we are opposed to consuming cultured meat. A lot of us do eat mock meat made of soy and stuff so I'd say cultured meat would probably be perceived similarly and accepted by the hindus.", "Thank you for responding ! Do u know any places or forums i can spread my survey once im done finalising it to get a good amount of hindu participants? Or should i post here aswell?"]]}
+{"title": "PADU would be available to update starting 2 January 2024.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vwque/padu_would_be_available_to_update_starting_2/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["No thank you, I don't want to support them turning the country into surveillance state."]]}
+{"title": "How to get scammed", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vstrg/how_to_get_scammed/", "num_comment": 74, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Saw this at a tech store not too long ago.", "comments": [["You laugh but won't be surprised to see tech illiterate people fall for these kind of sellers.", "That's might be me... Is this cheap or expensive?", "Super expensive. Both CPU and GPU are outdated.\nThis is what you can get with RM5k today. Much better specs with the latest GPU. Not the absolute best specs (top tier PC cost a lot more than 5k) but it's good enough for the current gen of PC games.", "Oh god, this is just the desktop. Not including monitors and keyboard if you don't own those before.", "Need to add another RM500 at the very least for a decent monitor, mechanical keyboard and a mouse. A basic 24\" Samsung monitor is RM339, a Royal Kludge mech keyboard is RM130 and a Logitech \"gaming\" mouse is RM70. Add Shopee voucher and it will go down to RM500. Can always replace them later if got budget.\nAlso, it's cheaper to buy the PC parts separately than buy a custom build one like I posted above. The downside is you'll need to install everything but you can always ask someone you know to do it.", "I'm pretty sure you can do better if you don't get a prebuilt kekw\nhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/XrJwCd if 5.3k is possible then this would be way better (1TB SSD, non shit PSU, non shit RAM, non shit case and also maybe motherboard, better CPU)", "My guy that's 5k dollar \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d", "Mana harga 5k tu tgk dkt gambar 1.3k", "Tu harga monitor la sis", "Even if you are tech illiterate you can always look up for the market prices of average PCs in Lazada or Shopee or ask questions at r/pcmasterrace", "r/buildapc is the right place to go. pcmr is mostly for unfunny memes."], ["RM 5k for GTX1060 PC \ud83e\udd23", "Even during covid this is not worth 5k, WTF!!!"], ["Which tech store! This is making me super angry.", "Many electronics store sell tv , fridge and sell pc as extra. They don\u2019t even fix pc stuff and sell outdate pc with original prices haha", "SenQ", "IIRC its the SenQ store at Queensbay Penang"], ["5k for a GTX1060 is meme af lol"], ["Ah yes, since this is the last unit I give you special price. Proceeds to add 100% to the original price.", "I mean, it is a special price technically"], ["That's why if you don't know much about computers, bring someone who does when buying one. Unfortunately I see this more often than it should. Sellers trying to get rid of old stock but maintain the same selling price despite how old it is. RM 5,199 might be fine back when those are the current generation (I think 2020?). But in 2024 that's unacceptable.", "5199 was insane even back when the 1060 launched (around 2016?)\nin 2020 sure you can justify it because new CPU but like even then I was seeing 1060 builds go for RM3k", "Oh shit you\u2019re right, 1060 is even older. They never could\u2019ve sold this for 5199 at any point in time.", "same advice when buying a car. those dealers are ruthless."], ["looking at those specs for that price is making me cry, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GTX 1060 SUPER!!!!!"], ["10gen i7 with 1060.... 5K alrdy ah. shit ill sell my 1050ti for 2.5k", "insane considering we're at 14th gen now I think.", "display unit summore", "I wish this was illegal lol", "keyboard n mouse \"free\" ahahaha if they put n that monitor mayyybeee", "it's stock clearance without the stock clearance price.", "I think 14th gen will have bottleneck performance cause 12th gen have bottleneck", "where's it coming from?", "https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/1uj1cy/1/general-tasks/1920x1080/"], ["aside from pricing and outdated specs, \"last unit\" term is also another strategy to hook buyers. triggering the sensation where its your last chance to own it\nkalau terlepas menyesal", "Only to feel the brunt of buyer's remorse once you've purchased the unit. Emphasis on the remorse."], ["Some parents might think this is a good deal for a gift for their children lol"], ["Just like furniture stores with their \"closing down\" sale"], ["For a 10 rtx series and 5k plus, that is a complete scam"], ["Kawkaw markup. Can get rtx3060 lol", "U can build new system with 7800xt with that price tho"], ["SUPER SALE DISCOUNT OF RM 0.00"], ["I have a Trident, they can be really good deals too. Not this one of course."], ["Mid setup for 5k lol"], ["I didnt even think that 1060 super exist lmao"], ["I'm waiting for the how"], ["Too expensive. GPU old."], ["1060S\uff0cmined gpu I guess. Physical store does potong kepala a lot."], ["wtf"], ["where is the store? i want to know.."], ["i always knew the price for pc parts in msia is expensive but god DAMN. also imo building your own pc>>buying it"], ["Bro i got 1060 lying around in my closet, i can give it for free, if its still works tho"], ["This is why you survey other stores and price points with their respective specs.\nIt took me 1 week worth of research to buy myself a gaming laptop. I took screenshots of 5 products and compared every piece of their hardware and software relative to their spec, generations and actual market price fluctuations.\nIn the end I got myself a 2nd-hand msi gp63 leopard 8re for 3.1k in 2020. The original price point was 5k+. And that took another few days of research too for a checkup Check list. I was also very tech illiterate back then but have sufficient interest in them to actually look into these things."], ["I just look at that GPU and be like \"nahhhh\""], ["Maybe the RCP is last month price, ringgit getting weaker afterall"], ["Lmao seriously those who have lived overseas will feel like the whole of Msia is scam. Everything is so expensive, especially electronics. At this price you can buy much much better parts from Amazon US even if it means paying shipping and duties \ud83d\ude02", "thats what i did when i bought my intel GPU. i saved more than rm200 than buying from lowyatt despite taxes."], ["Bro good luck trying to run any modern games with that GPU. Anything will be unplayable"], ["i got better for 1/5th the price.\n11th gen i9 with 8 cores, 32GB ram, threw in some random HDD, put it in a 1U case and started running AI with the avx_vnni."], ["I'm guessing the CPU contribute much to the price but goddamn RM5,199 for GTA1060?!"], ["Mak aii cekik darah"], ["Do we have a Malaysia tech subreddit so we can ask opinion and avoid getting scam?", "Just ask in the daily general discussion post, surprisingly active responses"], ["Covid reseller just called me. They want their prices back."], ["I hope that place shuts down."], ["Honestly as someone who is PC illiterate, I am so glad that I have friends that know more abt this than I do."], ["Looks like one of those prebuilt stock 'gaming' PC from an older era. They still kept their original retail price even after all these years for some stupid reason.\nNot worth it for a 1060 Super + 512Gb SSD. Even with the 'free' monitor. Im making a rough calculation here, but the value would be around RM1k for the parts, and RM1k for the CPU, RM400 for the motherboard. So RM2.4k overall, not including the monitor, mouse, keyboard, PSU and assembly. 'Free' items are usually added into the total price with a discount. Assuming thats the MSI Optix MAG 27'', the RM1.4k pricing would be discounted to 1k in the total, which is the same price at Shopee. Keyboard + mouse looks to be MSI branded, but probably not that great anyway."], ["1060 super...lol"], ["What a load of shit."]]}
+{"title": "KKM Smoking Fine", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vw9bt/kkm_smoking_fine/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Hello all. Just wanna ask if anyone here has ever been given a summons by KKM before for smoking in Zon Laragan Merokok?\nBasically my dumbass decided to vape and kena tangkap by the abang KKM.\nAnybody know what the procedure is? Do I still have to go to court after paying the fine?", "comments": [["I got kena once back in 2016 before for smoking at a non smoking place. Was my mistake for not realising that couldn\u2019t smoke there, got caught by KKM and was fined. They told me to pay at the nearest pejabat kesihatan and if pay within 2 weeks got 50% discount. After pay fine, do keep the receipt because after one year I got a letter from KKM saying that I did no payment. Went to the office again and they tak update it actually and shown them the receipt and then it\u2019s updated", "Thanks!", "No kidding???\nCan you share what the receipt look like? I'm morbidly curios. Pls redact your personal info.", "Unfortunately I can\u2019t as those receipts got lost when I shifted actually. Sorry.", ":26557:"]]}
+{"title": "Business licence question", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vph2v/business_licence_question/", "num_comment": 3, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Hi all, wishing you all happy and prosperous new year \ud83c\udf8a.\nI own a barbershop (rental shop) , its a studio type so have large space still available. Note : Business licence is still in-progress being approved , applying through a runner.\nI want to ask , can i use the vacant space for setup other small business? I'm thinking of setting up a billiard table, and charging RMxx/hour to use it.\nSo my question is if I got licence for Barber services , can I still do this 'other business ' in the same shop? Legally there would be ay issues?\nThanking in advance.", "comments": [["", "So its illegal then...got it. Thanks for info\ud83d\udc4d", "I see.."], ["I don\u2019t know about the legality, but getting a haircut where other people chatting about while playing snooker sounds annoying AF.\nI don\u2019t think guys normally get a haircut with friends either. So who are barber customers going to play with? If I want to go there to play with my friends, I run the risk of the one table (I assume) being occupied so I just have to wait. I better just go to an actual snooker place.\nI just think it\u2019s a weird combo. Assuming you don\u2019t want to add more chairs, maybe space the chairs further apart and add a screen of some sort between them? A bit more privacy would feel premium and I would even pay more for that."]]}
+{"title": "I'm moving to Malaysia soon for work. The company gave me the choice of Lumut or Ipo to live, but I will work at the port in Lumut. Where is better to live?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18w5dqf/im_moving_to_malaysia_soon_for_work_the_company/", "num_comment": 12, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Personal information: I\u2019m married and 30years old.", "comments": [["Ipoh city to Lumut is 80km. Takes about 1 hour of driving. Ipoh city has better amenities.", "The company has a free bus every single day from Ipoh to Lumut for employees. So, I\u2019ll don\u2019t have a cost, but I\u2019ll spend a time", "If you\u2019re alone, I rather stay in Lumut. One hour per way is a lot."], ["I think your wife might prefer ipoh. Sitiawan and Lumut are very quiet towns.\nIf you stay by yourself and transport is free, ipoh."], ["Lumut is laid back and chilled. With a bunch of holiday goers every now and then, whereas Ipoh has better food options and amenities.\nIf you want a quiet and simple life close to the sea, go for Lumut. If you want to stay in the city with ease of access to the capital and other big cities. Choose Ipoh."], ["I used to work in Lumut for a year, about 15 years ago. Since then there have been some developments like Aeon opening up, but generally, I would say to stay at Ipoh.\nI should preface that I'm mostly a city person. Lumut is interesting for the first 1-2 months to explore, peaceful and quiet. But it got boring quick as there's not much going on. I found myself travelling out of Lumut every weekend, whether to Ipoh, Taiping or back to KL.\nIpoh has way more things to explore and food choices are much better. If your wife is not working she will have much more to do in Ipoh while working than Lumut. My wife also got bored quickly when she stayed in Lumut", "Thank you for your opinion. Unfortunately I\u2019m moving alone, my wife will keep on Brazil during 2024. My work it\u2019s only for one year."], ["Better to stay in Sitiawan (township) near Lumut or Ipoh but as others has commented the drive is quite long from Ipoh to Lumut everyday."], ["Ipoh or ipo?", "Ipoh\nSorry"], ["Lumut / Manjung / Sitiawan are three satellite towns for Lumut port. used to live in Sitiawan 20 years ago. now these 3 areas are in development. suitable for family.\nIpoh is quite far and there are too many traffic lights to travel back and forth. but if your company provided transport to go to work, Ipoh would be nice."], ["How many working days?\nSay u work 5.5 days a week better stay in Lumut. Sitiawan and nearby streets namely Manjung ect which is less than 10km away/less than 30 minutes include traffic got most of the basic necessities. Cinema, grocer, entertainment, local food, Mc.Donalds just like what a major city has to offer.\nIpoh is about 80km+ away and expects a 1.5hr journey (via bus; 1hr by car). Township size is slightly bigger to Sitiawan but much more crowded and places to visit given its status as capital of Perak State and major tourism area.\nIf you are ok to wake up early and reach home late Ipoh is good. If you are workaholic and just here to work and keep your savings Lumit it is."]]}
+{"title": "/r/malaysia daily random discussion and quick questions thread for 02 January 2024", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18w55kv/rmalaysia_daily_random_discussion_and_quick/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": [], "header": "This is r/malaysia's official daily random discussion and quick questions thread. Don't be shy! Share your joys, frustrations, random thoughts and questions. Anything and everything is welcome.\nApa tanda si pinang kelat,\nBila dimakan terasa malan,\nApa tanda orang beradat,\nBila Monyets berdebat dengan sopan.\nDad joke: When's the worst time to have a heart attack?\nDuring a game of charades.", "comments": [["Minor announcements:\nmonyet.cc: Check out our Malaysian Lemmy community! (why?)\nSPM Megathread: Updated 2022 with SPM resources such as trial papers, modules, notes and more!\nMental health wiki: A list of mental health services in Malaysia\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns."], ["Sometimes I am pissed off at the fact that I am sane and sound when I am not manic. I am sane, and I remember the insane and dysfunctional shit I did. Which brings me shame and guilt. \ud83d\ude2c Yay. \ud83d\ude2c How fun. \ud83d\ude2c\nAh, every person has a burden in their life or something. At least I'm not being bombed by missiles and snipers. I'm just a crazy person in a stable country. \ud83d\ude01", "Why do I have a conscience. It's not fun having a conscience."]]}
+{"title": "Mental Wellness Tuesday - Weekly Check-in", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18w54v2/mental_wellness_tuesday_weekly_checkin/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Hi /r/Malaysia!\nHow is your day or week going so far? Feel free to use this thread to seek or share self-care ideas, tips for finding a therapist, or links to call/text a hotline. Please note that redditors are not mental wellness professionals and you should seek professional assistance if possible.\nRemember, be kind, always.\nAdditional resources:\n/r/MyHappyPill - mental wellness related subreddit for Malaysians\n/r/Malaysia's mental health wiki - /r/Malaysia's mental wellness repository\nMental wellness related subreddits\nMCO: Affordable mental health services", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Random abandoned building i found in Alor setar kedah around 2017", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vprqh/random_abandoned_building_i_found_in_alor_setar/", "num_comment": 8, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Backroom, local version."], ["Looks rather clean for an abandoned building"], ["looks a bit like those scene in movie, with someone locked up at the other side."], ["OP toggle collision off, got into the backrooms 2017"], ["I don't think abandoned building would be that clean tho.\nI went to my company old vacant building before and all the wire had been ripped out and became habitat of drug addict. All the glasses broken, walls filled with graffiti, full of trash and couple of needles on the floor. I even found an owl in the building top floor lmao.", "In 2017 my friends told me it just got abandoned.While i went there there was still an office chair and some other stuff.Also i alr moved to Langkawi so idk what it looks like now"], ["Definitely backroom vibes there\u2026.."], ["looks like it would make a sweet bachelors pad, industrial decor style"]]}
+{"title": "What jobs would you recommend for a foreign student studying here ?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18w28fb/what_jobs_would_you_recommend_for_a_foreign/", "num_comment": 9, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Mamak worker", "I can\u2019t cook shit lol \ud83d\ude02", "No one asked u to cook. Just take orders to the kitchen", "Can I work in a McDonald\u2019s?", "Same pay tbh", "Actually u need to tell us how much extra u intend to earn, number of hours u intend to spend, and what are your skills (if any).\nWorking retail is the worst way"], ["Cleaner / Restaurant / Retail Store \u2026 that is the most basic i can imagine\u2026 you possibly get in trouble with immigration since you work with a student visa. Just be careful."], ["By law, you are not allowed", "Why not"]]}
+{"title": "Restore Labuan\u2019s full duty-free status, Putrajaya told", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vyjny/restore_labuans_full_dutyfree_status_putrajaya/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "The Labuan Chinese Chamber of Commerce says the island needs to boost its facilities to woo visitors.", "comments": []}
+{"title": "MGNews: Lebih 100 PATI Dicekup Dalam Operasi Di Brickfields", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vulbc/mgnews_lebih_100_pati_dicekup_dalam_operasi_di/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Visa Agent Recommendation", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vrlv1/visa_agent_recommendation/", "num_comment": 7, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Hi all, I'd like to ask if anyone have any recommendations for visa agent or visa agencies that I can engage with regarding moving my partner, whose currently residing in Canada, to Malaysia where I am living as a citizen. Her situation in Canada isn't looking good, so we're trying our best to move her here as soon as possible.\nWe've done our own research into things and have a general idea of what are the steps we need to take, starting with the Long Term Social Visit pass, however, there are still a lot of details that we've yet to properly understand. Thus, rather than fumbling around, I was thinking of getting professional help.\nIf anyone knows of some places we could go for, please let me know! You can leave a comment or shoot me a DM anytime.\nThank you all!", "comments": [["Spouse visa?", "Yes. That is what we're thinking of.", "Google search for Malaysia expect groups/ fb groups. I think higher chance to get answer there.", "Has your marriage been registered with JPN, Malaysia and if so is the registration more than 6 months old ? This is the 1st step to applying for a long term spouse visa(LTSV). If your marriage has been registered with JPN, Malaysia for more than 6 months than upon entering Malaysia you can apply for a LTSV straight away. If not ,then you have to have your marriage registered with JPN first . Then after the marriage has been duly registered (you will be issued with a marriage Cert) , only after 6 months from the date of registration can the application for LTSV be submitted . If your situation falls into the 2nd category then you have to consider that when your spouse enter Malaysia , she will be permitted to remain for 90 days (I\u2019m assuming she holds a Canadian passport - do check her maximum stay period). This presents some problems which can be resolved in the following manner :- 2-3 days before the 90 days permit is up , go to the Immigration Dept and apply for an extension (they only 1 extension only) of 30 days . Towards the end of the extension period, leave the country for somewhere for a 7-10 days holiday and after this re-enter Malaysia and she gets another 90days stay . At this point , by the end of this new period of 90 days , she would have altogether , 90+30+7+90 = 227 days to remain in Malaysia which is enough to meet the 6 months after marriage registration before can submit application for LTSV. Upon submission , the result of the application will be given within 30 \u201cworking days\u201d. In the above , you have to make sure that her return air ticket (bought initially when coming to Malaysia) must be able to cater for her need to change her return date to the country of origin .\nI will stop here for you to digest the above information. I have not touched on the requirements and the supporting documents to accompany your LTSV application.\nIt\u2019s better for you to know which of the above 2 routes you have to take , can apply straight away or wait .\nWhen you are ready for the nest stage , you can DM me and I will take you through the necessary steps . I can only offer guidance , I\u2019m not in this type of business and what advice and suggestions if you need them are absolutely free of charge .", "Thank you for all the information provided! I will read through and understand this with my partner. Thank you for taking the time to write all these, I appreciate it very much!", "You are welcome , I hope I\u2019m able to lower your level of anxieties in your planning to apply for a LTSV , it\u2019s daunting as the guidelines can be ambiguous. Good luck with your planning.", "Important Correction :- Man (Malaysian) sponsoring wife for LTSV doesn\u2019t have to wait 6 months after registering marriage with JPN , can apply immediately. If it\u2019s woman sponsoring husband then the 6 months rule apply. Sorry for the question. However , the issue is still whether your marriage has been registered in Malaysia. Be prepared to pay a fine if it hasn\u2019t been registered."]]}
+{"title": "Which Jalan/ area can easily be made more walkable?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vpwa1/which_jalan_area_can_easily_be_made_more_walkable/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Are there any areas, where you think cars should totally be banned, and the area should solely allow pedestrians only?\nI\u2019ll start: Jonker street Melaka.", "comments": [["Jalan Bukit Bintang. Don\u2019t need to permanently close the roads but only close at certain times like weekends.\nIt could be a nice area but the crowded walkways and constant car horns make it unbearable."], ["Old town Ipoh"], ["Old Kangar. The old pedestrian walkway near cimb got demolished by MPK in 2017 which was appointed by UMNO. Fuck you UMNO. Just go on google maps. Search the store Kangar and change the dates. You'll see yourself how fucked Kangar became thanks to those UMNO fuckers who didn't even consult the local population at Pekan Cina to demolish the walkway"], ["Johor Bahru, Jalan Wong Ah Fook, maybe not necessarily banning car traffic totally, but heavily restricting it, such that the only vehicles driving there, are delivery vehicles.\nThe place sees so much foot traffic, especially on weekends when the place is flooded with Singaporean Tourists, and big stroads like the two \"barriers\" blocking good walkability around city square mall and the Komtar, are hurting the safety of pedestrians"], ["pasar seni"]]}
+{"title": "AKB48 announces a new sister idol group based in Malaysia, KLP48", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vq1ab/akb48_announces_a_new_sister_idol_group_based_in/", "num_comment": 47, "flairlabel": ["Entertainment"], "header": "", "comments": [["YOASOBI announces new sister group in Malaysia: YOUSOHAI", "YOABABI works too", "I hate to say this but that sounds like a group I will support. That aside, what type of amoi we will see ah? 1 Malaysia? How ah? Also how won't pas make noise?"], ["Counting down until PAS and the fun police come frothing at the mouth with pitchforks\nMark my words", "\"This promotes fun and therefore is bad.\" -PAS", "\"Girl exposed skin bad!\"\nBut\nquietly masturbating furiously", "When you think it's about girls, get a load of this: https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/27364/pas-leader-found-liking-gay-porn-on-twitter-deactivates-social-media-accounts\nI'm guessing it's the ankles regardless of gender.", "Oof. Not using alts to browse notty notty social media, rookie mistake.", "\"This boner I have is THEIR fault.\"", "I can see your argument but... They didn't do it with Dolla though... Isn't the same? \ud83e\udd14"], ["BNK 48 & JKT 48: Welcome."], ["They knew our \"Mak kau hijau!\" meme.", "nah, they tryna gain trust from pas"], ["They have sister groups overseas?", "Yeah, ever heard of JKT48, BNK48 and SNH48?"], ["Potential Lyrics:\n[Chorus]\nSohai Cibai Pukimak\nAnjing Lanjiao Putang ina mo\nBobo Babi Mak kau hijao\nBangsat Duma Ka ni na\n-edit\nReference.", "", "Now then, this is poetry."], ["Kelapa 48", "Kumpulan Lagu PAS 48. /s"], ["Wow, malaysia variety of group48. interesting"], ["What languages they sing ?", "Japanese in the Sohai Dialect"], ["I remember an interview about K-Pop singers on how they got into the industry.\n1) Scout looks for talent, mostly school leavers\n2) Offers a contract to sing and dance plus other promotional stuff. In exchange the promoters pay for their college/universities and they have to make sure that their exam results are within the acceptable limit.\n3) Once the contract ends, they can either continue the gig to quit and join the workforce. By then if everyone goes to plan, they would have a sizable amount of money plus almost no loans to worry about\nProblem is how the hell is this going to work for Malaysia?", "I would assume the latter part of point number 3 is only true for the successful ones. And it gets worse if you're a trainee/artist for a small and/or new company.\nSome companies may not cover your education expenses, while the bigger ones usually do. If you don't debut, then you might have to pay back the expenses incurred. Especially if you're a trainee in a small company. But if you do debut, there goes that famous 7 year contract for you to pay back the expenses already incurred AND future expenses.\nTraining isn't cheap, especially if you're in the Big 4 companies. Your coaching team aren't exactly nobodies, add it up with living costs although they would skimp on that. What makes it worse is that entertainment industry isn't very straightforward so the \"expenses\" might be very very fishy.\nThis is why we see artists bringing the companies into court every now and then. We see the successful ones. Yet we forget that there are more trainees that don't debut and there are more unsuccessful idols than the ones that blow up.\nBut yes, it would be harder for this to work in Malaysia when compared to Indonesia, Thailand or China. We have a smaller market compared to them. Still, it's hard to judge yet in the early stage. An established brand is always better than building it from the ground up.", "Considering that it's jpop, it should be just the normal audition, training and they get salary based on their jobs. Contract is renewed yearly. Idols like AKB48 in Japan is more like a salaried worker aka makan gaji instead of contracted for certain amount of years.\nWhat if they want to quit? Considering that this is based on AKB system, they can always leave the group, celebrated with a term called 'graduation'. All members will eventually graduate unless they get kicked out. In fact, a lot of Japan 48G members graduate to focus on their study instead of pursuing entertainment careers.", "You know, there's the first AKB48 sister group is JKT48 from indonesia. They probably already has a good recipe since the JKT48 debuted in 2011."], ["KLP48 sounds like KLEPON or KELAPA"], ["Hope its malayan and indian girls too not only chinese looking ones"], ["surprised not in SG", "Market too small for a niche product. The AKB cafe in sg closed within 2 years of opening.", "SG too expensive and no more Zepp"], ["I can bet there will be no dark skin Malaysian girls join this outfit."], ["KLP48 is gonna be a hit in malaysia\nIts business of \"scouting the prettiest talentless girls you can ever hope to find\" fits very well with the local industry"], ["So ..what? They gonna just recruit non malays because its haram to show hair?"], ["Chat is this real"], ["Kelpie like the mythical irish seahorse"], ["green color as primary color\nyou can't make this shit up roflmao\njokes aside, can jpop style girl group idol actually strive through? dolla surely be their success benchmark. jangan flop atau nugu sudah"], ["All I see is kelapa 48"], ["Not very optimistic about this. Akb has had a lot of internal problems since a few years ago. Also, the local people will make a lot of noise about people wearing short skirts or dance."], ["Why KLP and not KUL though?"], ["KL-PAS48"], ["Next Halimah Miku"], ["If you guys want to see how they would perform, there's JKT48 from indonesia. And they have localized song and MV in B.indo, but i guess you shouldn't expect MV like this"], ["And good luck to girls who are joined this, they have to prepare to face weird yet strict rules to be followed and the most important rule - zero love interaction policy means no dating allowed."]]}
+{"title": "Malaysians usher in New Year 2024 with religious activities, family outings", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vmi0h/malaysians_usher_in_new_year_2024_with_religious/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Culture"], "header": "", "comments": [["\"... with religious activities...\"\n\ud83d\udc80"]]}
+{"title": "Towards 2024: What Malaysians want", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vlwc5/towards_2024_what_malaysians_want/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "r/Malaysia geopolitics containment megathread for 01 January 2024", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vi83g/rmalaysia_geopolitics_containment_megathread_for/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Geopolitical Megathread"], "header": "r/Malaysia geopolitics containment megathread\nThis thread is for all news and discussion on Malaysian geopolitics - primarily the current Israel-Palestine conflict. Please post links and discussion posts as root level comments below!\nGround rules: To keep things civil, personal attacks, flaming and/or bigotry will result in a ban. Also, throwaways are not welcome: you must be >3 months old and have >30 karma to participate.\nRationale: Why we have set this up\nThis thread is sorted by New, and will be refreshed every day!", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Sunway College MUFY ( Monash University Foundation year)", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vyhq2/sunway_college_mufy_monash_university_foundation/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Education"], "header": "hello, everyone I'm thinking of studying in Malaysia but am not sure what uni I should go to therefore I decided to go to MUFY since I heard all the unis in malaysia accepts it so that after I won't have any issues going to any university i want. However, I'm not sure abt this so does anyone here know if thats true? Also im not planning to go to Monash since its too expensive for me.", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Can someone explain to me what is this \"planta\" and \"sabun lux\" thing on Twitter attacking PMX?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vo8av/can_someone_explain_to_me_what_is_this_planta_and/", "num_comment": 19, "flairlabel": [], "header": "I see some X users like https://twitter.com/Salim_Iskandar aka Parpukarri kept talking about some Planta and sabun Lux thingy. They were also some long-ass videos which I did not bother to watch. He thinks it'd be the downfall of the Madani govt (yawn).\nI am just curious what is the context. Can someone do a TL; DR?", "comments": [["Drop the soap = ass raping in jail\nPlanta = lube for anal sex", "To be fair, planta is way cheaper than lube."], ["PN meme game is weak. Its not even funny and the common folks don't even get the reference unless its explained. Anyone remember kakistokrasi?"], ["It's just an evolution of the peliwat insult\nUsing sabun and Planta to licinkan the butthole\nBasically it's \"terpaling Islam\" having buttsex in their head, rent-free", "You don't really want to understand the mindset of walauns tbh, they have no brain capacity\nPH fans spin around like a washing machine, Walauns just stand in one place spewing sewer shit", "I would still prefer to bring back the court to reverse its judgement on PMX. All he has is a pardon from ex-Agong which really means the conviction still holds. This is why he can still be called a peliwat. I also don\u2019t think a 70 year old can rape a 20+ year old. But you can\u2019t argue with that when the judgement is still valid on paper.", "First one I can somewhat believe, as there are many closet gay out there.\nBut then he kena same charge same way at height of his political career, again. I mean dude, even the blind can see what's up.", "The fact that saiful changed his statement from rape to consensual after being told it's unlikely for a 68 year old man to rape a 20 year old , cements its bullshittery to me.", "Ummmm didn't the royal pardon voided the whole case itself?", "A pardon means he is a free man and does not need to undergo his sentence.\nHis conviction still stands.", "I\u2019m not sure exactly. But pardon means forgiveness which inadvertently also means Agong forgave him as \u201cpeliwat\u201d. Which is why many who wants to attack him can still use this against him especially when they have no more bullets against him.", "Please dont mock walaun.. Low iq is considered OKU and we dont mock OKU", "I get the gay references. But I think it's in context to an interview he did with a former inmate of Sg Buloh who was also incarcerated at the same time with Anwar."], ["I cant believe you still listening to parpukari....", "that's the real mystery here"], ["The guy claimed it was a normal accurance in prison to have gay sex orgy. They use planta and soaps as lubricants. And the guy claimed anwar on some occasions joined those orgies.\nBut for me, its just too farfetched. I dont think its true.", "this is not the news I wanted to read on NY 2024, butt here we are :26563:", "Guy make it sounds like he\u2019s been in prison before"], ["Blud, just uninstall Twitter. Place been a hell hole for degenerates for years now. I used to think thats for Reddit, tbh, Twitter is just fucking worse."]]}
+{"title": "Sihir, anyone here had any experience with sihir?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vtk17/sihir_anyone_here_had_any_experience_with_sihir/", "num_comment": 18, "flairlabel": [], "header": "boleh bagi advice if ada kenalan terkena sihir and what to do?", "comments": [["Funny thing abt sihir is, it cease to exist once you stop believing in it.\nI don't believe in this bullcrap, I don't suffer from it.\nI'm free.", "Sorry to burst your bubble. But \"sihir\" technically exist. Except people are stupid and don't understand what it actually is. It's actually a chemical attack. Bomoh is just a chemist with high charisma to fool people.\nKena sihir is mostly meaning someone broke into your house and poison you with contamination chemicals. Normal vector of attack is consumption, inhalation, or absorption. Meaning spike food, water supply, bed, ventilation.\nIt's either poison, or radiation.\nSo if you suspect a attack. Check and clear your house area of suspicion item. Put CCTV and make sure there's no blind spot."], ["Most sihir is actually TB je..batuk kering and berdarah. Malam2 got sweat. Never got checked and treated for tb then salahkan sihir", "Your comment reminds me of my school friend who got TB. He lost a lot of weight but gained a new nickname. We all called him TB after that lol. He's now a doctor."], ["Minum Susu Lembu Jantan Adudu"], ["read quran everyday in the house\ndo your daily five prayers and the additional ones\nlearn / memorize certain portions of the quran that you can use as prayer\nkeep yourself clean all the time especially if you are a woman (menstruating)\nbe with people often, never stay alone", "The last one is kinda hard tho. What if you work as a security guard"], ["Can YouTube search \"ustaz kazim elias shirt\"\nThe search results used to be he telling his experience, now the results seems more about giving advice"], ["Kena sihir is mostly meaning someone broke into your house and poison you with contamination chemicals. Normal vector of attack is consumption, inhalation, or absorption. Meaning spike food, water supply, bed, ventilation.\nIt's either poison, or radiation.\nSo if you suspect a attack. 1. Check and clear your house area of suspicion item. 2. Purge your water supply 3. Change your bedsheets. 4. If you don't feel healthy inside. Sakit perut. It's probably poison/drug from spike food/drink. Seek medical treatment.\nPut CCTV and make sure there's no blind spot.\nAnd if you want to be extra sure. Stay somewhere for a week and see if condition improve. Eat only from can food and drink you purchase yourself and keep in secure location. If anyone offer food even from your love one. Don't eat it.\nSend/pay someone to stay at your place for a week. If they fall sick or experience similar conditions. Then confirm someone is attacking you. Only then seek ustaz or whatever spiritual doctor you think can help", "you are a fool, i bet you also believe humans evolved from monkeys", "Then you bet wrong fool. To be clear, I don't believe in sihir. It's just misunderstood what sihir actually is. Strip away the superstitions. It's Just people sabotaging other people's health/life through the use of chemicals.", "Or ask a dog to sniff your place. They have sensitive nose. So should be able to detect abnormal smell. Be careful if they are avoiding certain area. It means something wrong probably chemical spill or something", "Or maybe just go see a doctor or toxicologist?", "Sure, but you're treating the damage not solving the source of the problem.\nGo see the doctor to treat your wound after getting beat up. The issue is the bully. I'm just suggesting where to look to DEAL WITH IT.\nsee doctor get medicine. But until you found out where and how you get poison. You'll get sick again. If you fail to find the problem early. There's a chance you'll experience organ failure first.", "I don't think you get my point. The reason to see a doctor is to get a diagnosis. Once you have the diagnosis, it'll be easier to identify the source (if it's indeed toxin exposure).\nOr in the most likely scenario, all the tests will come back normal.", "I don't think you get my point.\nNo you. OP ask what to do if kena and I just give suggestions on it and yes that include going to a doctor. Checking your house and cleaning it does also help. Especially if you find suspicious items.", "Is that what bomohs do in the olden days?\nWhat are some of the traps and boobys they use back in the day?"], ["Last I checked, Ball Lightning is quite OP now. You might wanna check that out."]]}
+{"title": "Deputy education minister says use of face mask encouraged at schools to curb spread of Covid-19", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vp23p/deputy_education_minister_says_use_of_face_mask/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["COVID-19"], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "MET MALAYSIA - Laporan Cuaca 1 Januari 2024 (pagi)", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vny6r/met_malaysia_laporan_cuaca_1_januari_2024_pagi/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "We have huge fanbase, communities here are well growth as well. But still we did not being included in Steam sorting system. But clap to you all the dedicated gamers who has been good since day-1 gaming, we are still one of the best amongst SEA country according to ExoPhase", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vmvhv/we_have_huge_fanbase_communities_here_are_well/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Entertainment"], "header": "", "comments": [["just like Square Enix think we poor, what else is new?"]]}
+{"title": "The two new podcast episode by Ong Kian Ming and Tony Pua is interesting to listen to, would recommend more people to check it out.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vuhgi/the_two_new_podcast_episode_by_ong_kian_ming_and/", "num_comment": 9, "flairlabel": ["Meme Monday"], "header": "", "comments": [["For Malaysian memes every day of the week, please check out c/memeeveryday at our sister community monyet.cc! (why?)\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns."], ["I kena con by TS.\nThe Are We Ok? Podcast is primarily between Ong Kian Ming and the Mr Money TV guy, Peter Yong. Tony is just in the two last episodes.\nIn any case, AWO's reach would be limited by its English and DAP fans circle. KS still has the way bigger reach for using BM. DAP if you want to outreach, use BM more.\nSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6JzzwMmT2fl51wK4pgfqGH?si=6105e3ede27e4e8a"], ["Genuine question,\nWho are these people, and why should I listen to what they have to say?", "The botak on the left is Former bangi MPs Ong Kian Ming ( you may have seen him appear on Keluar sekejap and other podcast) , the one on the right is former Damansara/petaling Jaya MP Tony Pua.\nBoth prominent Malaysian politicians who have garnered considerable attention for their outspokenness and expertise in specific areas. Tony Pua is probably lesser known and unpopular for suggesting PH to give conditional partnership with muhyiddin at the time when muhyiddin was losing his power ( He go into more detail about the rationality of his opinion). In the past, he was very well known for being able to make 1MDB crisis digestible for people who are unfamiliar with the issue and it's seriousness.\nBoth are technocrats in their own right and have the experience and qualification behind their backs. So listening to them talk about politicies is often very interesting."], ["Why would you post as a meme? I thought you were trolling", "Because, it just so happen to be meme monday so I thought this might promote the podcast. Guess my bad"], ["Here are the links\nEpisode 3, talks about why GST Wont Work, the recovery1MDB\u2019s Money, Petrol Subsidy, the jawi issues\nEpisode 4, talks about what happen during sheraton Move, working with Tun M, Removing Toll discussion, the Flaws of Manifesto", "sum it up for us", "Not really sure why my comment is getting downvoted.\nI did summarize what was mentioned in each episodes, There is a shorter video version if you all interested. (Episode 3, episode 4)"]]}
+{"title": "BDS: McDonald's Malaysia has no grounds for lawsuit over boycott campaign", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vmjms/bds_mcdonalds_malaysia_has_no_grounds_for_lawsuit/", "num_comment": 146, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Earlier discussion\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/18u3h2q/gerbang_alaf_restaurants_has_requested_bds/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3"], ["Umm what the fuck is this I thought boycott doesn't work", "Globally, McDonalds (Franchise Owner) will discard this as a mosquito bite and let go. However, Malaysia Mcdonald's owner will not. You have to think these people as an individual restaurant owner whose business has basically experienced huge drop of revenue simply because they have the \"McD\" branding and the royalty they pay to the franchise owner is associated with terrrorism. Hence why this lawsuit is associated with the regional branding only.\nTo put it in scale, even if Mcdonalds get sanctioned in Malaysia, it won't dent them even a bit. With a global revenue of over 20 billion usd yearly, Malaysia's MYR 3 billion is small in comparison. Think of it as losing 50 cents from your 20 ringgit.", "McD, the franchise, is more of a Real Estate company than a restaurant. The value is in the land/building of the McD restaurant.", "That's what this sub would adamantly want you to believe in"], ["As much as I think this one is misguided, boycott is a form of free speech. Letting corporations successfully sued will set dangerous precedent.", "Making comments only from the title without reading the artical or understanding the situation is a dangerous precedent.\nMcD is suing them for defamation, the spread of false information. Not for the boycott/freedom of speech.\nFor example, If I call you a pedo and as the result you receive tons of hate comments online, live harassment and negativity impact your live. You have the right to sue me for defamation.\nAlso before the company sue someone they normally ask the person/organization/company to withdraw the statement they found wrong publicly. Chances are they refuse to say they were wrong and made a mistake. So McD is suing them.", "Boycott is fine\nTelling people \"Ini company yang menyokong Israel\" (while being factually wrong) is not.\nIn an Ideal world, courts should be saying \"okay to boycott, but if you claim something , you have to prove it\"", "I wonder how deep the supply chain can be considered as \"menyokong Israel\".\nFor example, I open a restaurant, my ingredient is sourced from a company in China, the Chinese company sourced their raw material from Germany, the German company sourced the equipment to collect the raw material from a Poland company. The Poland company just manufacture the equipment, and the Poland company buy the rights to manufacture the equipment from an Israel company.\nSo technically.\nMe -> China -> Germany -> Poland -> Israel.\nIn this case, Is my restaurant support Israel ?", "I'm no expert in this matter but imo, it is not. You are only accused of supporting Israel if you are paying royalty directly to a company that openly admits that they are supporting Israel war effort.", "In an Ideal world, courts should be saying \"okay to boycott, but if you claim something , you have to prove it\"\nHell...its in Islam itself.\nHadits Arbain #33: Yang menuduh harus datangkan bukti", "The problem is that it wasn\u2019t factually wrong.\nMcDonald\u2019s Israel was funding the Israeli efforts by providing soldiers with food and money.\nThe issue is also American support as McDonalds US has some endorsement of Israeli activities or items which gets money funded via McDonald\u2019s Malaysia royalties.", "4 different companies\nAlonyal ltd\nGerbang Alaf\nLionhorn Pte\nMcdonald corps\nPlease provide proof on how Gerbang Alaf money has made it's way into Alonyal ltd money\nThe issue is also American support as McDonalds US has some endorsement of Israeli activities or items which gets money funded via McDonald\u2019s Malaysia royalties.\nYou're also free to provide proof", "Well, whoever made claims and getting sued should show their card first- BDS should show how Gerbang Alaf is funding Alonyal and how Alonyal is funding the Jewish state.\nSince Gerbang is suing, BDS should come up with evidence or they are all talks no substances", "Yupe, it's time for BDS to show proof regarding their claims and if they can't well all I can say is good luck to them with this lawsuit.", "I never see anyone campaigning to boycott Gerbang Alaf. All I see is the campaign to boycott McDonalds.\nAnd Gerbang Alaf is just unfortunate to be part of McDonalds.", "What are you on about? I am talking about McDonald\u2019s Israel not McDonald\u2019s Malaysia whose royalties etc are paid to the US branch.", "Maksudnya you have no idea\nCool, thanks for confirming my initial beliefs about you", "What are you on about lmao?, I am talking about McDonald\u2019s israel you know a regional office.\nMcDonald\u2019s Malaysia isn\u2019t involved in providing funds etc to Israel neither is McDonald\u2019s US, it is McDonald\u2019s Israel a body independent of McDonalds US.\nPeople are boycotting McDonald\u2019s due to its perceived help with McDonald\u2019s Israel and the fact the money is taxable to the US government fuelling potential decision in its aid to Israel.", "The problem is that it wasn\u2019t factually wrong.\nMcDonald\u2019s Israel was funding the Israeli efforts by providing soldiers with food and money.\nThe issue is also American support as McDonalds US has some endorsement of Israeli activities or items which gets money funded via McDonald\u2019s Malaysia royalties.\n\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014-\nYou mentioned it is not factually wrong before you wrote your explanation.\nSince it is not \u201cfactually\u201d wrong, and let your explanation, Gerbang Alaf is able to demand prove right in court since the whole BDS\u2019s narrative is that Gerbang Alaf is paying royalties/ supposed paying royalties to McD regional/ global and they will use the funds to support Israel..?\nAnyway let this go to court and also let us see the outcome. Emotions aside, personally want to see how this turns out and any evidence/ substances BDS is able to prove", "The support is seen as the setting of McDonald\u2019s Israel branches who as a regional body was supporting Israel armed forces etc.\nYou\u2019re confusing the problem with McDonald\u2019s Israel and McDonald\u2019s US and Malaysia.\nMcDonald\u2019s US had endorsed the establishment of McDonald\u2019s Israel and it is a tax payer to the Us government that funds the state of Israel.\nPs I can agree with specific if any claims are made wrongly fully by BDS Malaysia should be justify punished at the same time people need to be aware that they can still boycott a cooperation for its regional partners behaviour.", "I\u2019m quite aware with the differences between McD Israel/ Regional and McD MY.\nWhat I don\u2019t understand is that yes, McD regional has given their support to Israel and Gerbang is more pro Palestine, but again with our emotions at all time high, we are dragging Alaf into this.\nDo you know how many of our local staff are affected? Anyway that is a diff story. Back to our discussion\u2026. BDS should get sued and hope all this people who are cashing clout will think three times before coming up with bullshits", "It is factually wrong, and idiots took it bait hook and sinker", "It isn\u2019t. McDonald\u2019s israel made the decision, the other issue was historical endorsement by McDonald\u2019s us with McDonald\u2019s Israel in the past eg; with its setting up of business etc.", "t isn\u2019t. McDonald\u2019s israel made the decision, the other issue was historical endorsement by McDonald\u2019s us with McDonald\u2019s Israel in the past eg; with its setting up of business etc.\nIf what you said is true, then BDS has nothing to be afraid about the lawsuit. But remember, freedom of speech, expression comes at a price if it is factually wrong, and defamatory.", "So if your father is criminal and you as his child provide some money to him. You are guilty by association and should be treat as such?", "Human morality isn\u2019t as simplistic nor the comparison fair.\nA country that supports another to explicitly commit a crime in the sense of providing it with guns is just guilty.\nThe establishment of a franchise on occupied land (a crime against humanity) is complicit in the action.\nThe difference would the father is aware of the crimes the son will commit with the fund rather than not knowing.", "Freedom of speech doesn't = Freedom from consequences.\nI.e. if its defamatory.\nI'm free to say KFC is shit, that's a personal opinion and FOS.\nBut if I say KFC pays for terrorism via erotica staring their chicken, that's defamatory, and I'll be libel for it.\nPlease don't sue me KFC.", "I agree and I learnt this in my short law lesson in class for media. Freedom of speech doesn't equal to freedom from consequences when it's defamatory. Even if your claim is true and it's the truth, as long as the affected party is able to provide evidence that due to what you said affected their reputation and etc, it's defamation.", "I think it's defamatory case since there's zero proof that Mekdi have anything to do with unintended funding on Israel.. But I agree that 50/50 of this case is Intimidation lawsuit or defamation or both", "Problem is that McDonald\u2019s did help Israeli int the form of its regional offices and historical issues.", "Good. Then BDS has nothing to be afraid about then.\nCan seek punitive damage too.\nAnyhow I doubt this is the only thing BDS has said about for McD to start this ball rolling.", "\"Kenyataan kami disalaherti\".", "You are correct, but I don\u2019t get why you can\u2019t understand when it\u2019s the same context?\nMcDonalds Israel and some other McDonald\u2019s - Helps Israel\nCorrect in inferring that McDonald\u2019s in someway is supporting Israel thus a reason to boycott\nMcDonalds Malaysia - donates to Gaza\nCan be inferred that McDonald\u2019s Malaysia in someway isn\u2019t supporting Israel thus shouldn\u2019t be a reason to boycott\nSo when someone (ie BDS Malaysia) make a blanket statement that we should boycott McDonald\u2019s in Malaysia because they support Israel can be a ground of Libel. Thus them suing can be a reasonable protest to that statement.", "I am aware of that contextual however it should be asserted it is the comes down to long historical issues with McDonald\u2019s US as well as how the cooperate body while not intending too failed to place restriction on the assistance and help towards armed forces of any nation.\nAs for Starbucks it came down to them sueing a union for Starbucks employee on their pro Palestinian statement by the US branch leading to massive boycotts and eventually Starbucks conceded.\nI am sure the people who initiated the lawsuits have probably had their careers dumped by the cooperation for the media backlash and sales drop as a whole.\nBoycotts them giving a million dollars to say they care about Palestinians could of been seen as a token offering as it took a while for the action to come out and the explanation of their issues with Israeli counterpart all leading to further leading to consumer mistrust.\nMcDonald\u2019s has pretty shot themselves in the foot with this lawsuit as well as this is another PR disaster.\nThey will go the way Starbucks went.", "McDonald\u2019s Malaysia are owned by the Saudis, so why no boycott other Saudis product? Again it is acceptable to boycott McDonald\u2019s. There are no harm to it. But if you make a written statement in someway saying that McDonald\u2019s Malaysia is supporting the Israel. They are justified in the legal action. I\u2019m not arguing on the ethicality of it. All your reasoning are based on the ethics. Which is a different topics from what McDonald\u2019s Malaysia is doing.\nA hungry person stole an apple a singular apple from a multibillion corporation. It is still wrong by the law but from the ethic to let him go is not wrong. But does the corporation has a legal stand to ask for compensation on the apple? Yes.", "What makes you think I don\u2019t boycott Saudi goods as well? It\u2019s well known the majority of the Islamic community hates the saudi government. Yemen deserved didn\u2019t deserve what happened to it and continues ti happen to it.\nMany Muslims do boycott goods related to Saudi Arabia with exemptions made for religious aspects.", "I\u2019m not saying you. This is not about you. This is about McDonalds Malaysia and BDS Malaysia. It\u2019s not about the ethics. From what is given here from both sides. BDS Malaysia is in the wrong unless they provide evidence. If the evidence is\nMcDonald\u2019s give money to Israel, thus McDonald\u2019s is supporting Israel\nis true. Then why\nMcDonald\u2019s Malaysia give money to Gaza, thus McDonald\u2019s Malaysia is supporting Gaza\nis not?", "I can agree with that, I am asserting the issue is with people originally commenting McDonald\u2019s was not doing it rather than specifying the issue about regional bodies etc.\nAlso this would be a bad PR move for McDonald\u2019s Malaysia as a whole as it will further antagonise the community - this is not a justification against for their justified action but rather just an opinion.\nI don\u2019t know enough about BDS McDonald\u2019s Malaysia particular statements.\nIn Australia BDS is about reducing the funds sent to the US in a visible and semi impactful manner.\nSimilarly to BDS America.", "If BDS doesn\u2019t mean to boycott McD Malaysia but towards Israel owned McD, they should be specific at the beginning. Instead they continue to instigate on the boycott causing reputation damage to McD Malaysia.\nYou play fire and now it is time to face consequences. From another Reddit user shared about McD CMO, BDS is screwed. Don\u2019t ever think to threaten them with lawsuit will damage their reputation (which already damaged by this likely so called being taken out of context, BDS boycott McD Israel not McD Malaysia nonsense), do you think they don\u2019t consider the consequences for defamation call?", "This is a reply for this comment and your other comment.\nI\u2019m in no way backing McDonald\u2019s but again replying to the context of McDonald\u2019s and BDS issue, and the mental gymnastics of the boycotter.\nMcDonalds funds is a tiny tiny tiny fraction of the war funds of the US of A. For comparison the DoD 2023 budget was around 800billions while McDonalds Market Cap is around 200billions mind you. What the USA Dod get for a year is worth simply 4x more of the whole of McDonalds a global Corporation.\nMy problem with the boycotts is their half ass approach and also the result that the action of the boycott hurts us, the local, more than help the Israel-Palestine war.\nBoycotting McDonald\u2019s (and Starbucks etc) is easy really easy really really easy. A \u201cvalue\u201d meal cost like rm20-30 for an average 4 person, a supposed fast food joint value meal could cost around rm60-70. And sadly with the average joe median wage around 2400rm wouldn\u2019t actually be able afford to eat at McDonald\u2019s every now and then. Thus boycotting a McDonald\u2019s is relatively simple for the like. That\u2019s why the trending of boycott McDonald\u2019s Starbucks and other \u201cluxury\u201d US based product are popular methods. It\u2019s thing they don\u2019t need and frankly some actually can\u2019t afford as well.\nBut my problem now is where are the boycott that actually hurt the US? Why are there no protest around US based MNC? Why are there no protest to scare away the US investor? Hurt the USD hurt the US image. Because people can\u2019t and people won\u2019t. They are scared. They are comfortable in their own bubble. They pretend that McDonald\u2019s is like a necessity to the Malaysian. Thus by boycotting McDonald\u2019s feels like a sense of accomplishment. But it\u2019s not (relatively) towards the Israel-Palestine war.\nWhat it hurt is only the McDonald\u2019s Image and PR. Locally it hurts our own people more that the McDonald\u2019s brand. Heck even if McDonald\u2019s suffer a major loss, they can still retreat to their own country of just stop selling in Malaysia. They might suffer losses but the won\u2019t go bankrupt. And yet I promise you the war would still go on. USD is king baby \ud83e\udd11\ud83e\udd11\ud83e\udd11\ud83d\udcb5\ud83d\udcb5\ud83d\udcb5\ud83d\udcb0\ud83d\udcb0\ud83d\udcb0", "libel is still libel. if you slander someone(company) you can't just expect to be able to walk away Scots free.", "Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.\nBoycott is fine, and cannot be stopped. But if someone starts lying (or claims unproven allegations), then they're potentially in trouble - libel and slander laws exist for a reason.", "BDS: Freedom of speech\nMcDonald: Freedom to sue", "Boycott if completely fine, as you said it is a form of free speech.\nBut stating and parroting misinformation to sway public opinion, that's text book defamation. Which is illegal. Free speech doesn't mean you can flap your gums and be free of consequences.\nHowever that being said, get fucked McD lol.", "Boycott is part of democracy. It's another form of voting, albeit with your wallet.", "What if the boycott is based on false information? That just becomes libel or slander at that point", "It isn\u2019t false the issue. The issue is well known that Israel McDonald\u2019s a regional office was involved in the findings. While local cooperations in Malaysia fund the US side of things which has had a role in McDonald\u2019s Israel establishment and historical issues.", "Again it\u2019s McDonald\u2019s as a whole and McDonald\u2019s as an entity. Terrorist organization bombing people claiming they\u2019re Muslim (Islam). Thus that mean Muslim here in Malaysia are terrorist by association? It doesn\u2019t. The (supposed) Islamic Terrorist is different Muslim from the Malaysian Muslim. So people can make a blanket statement that islam is a terrorist religion, it is in someway a freedom of speech, but if they write that Anon Bin Anon is an Islamic terrorist (by association) then it is libel and some other action to Anon can be also construed as a Hate Crime.", "(1) McDonald\u2019s Israel does have the flexibility to do as it deemed but it was also due to the global body not enforcing laws and regulation as many cooperation do so.\n(2) The boycott argument is that the money is sent to America which funds the American war efforts. Reducing the amount sent and business impacts will lead to a weaker US push.\n(3) the Boycott of American products has already began impact US policy.\n(4)The argument against a cooperation and individuals are different. organisations are led in whole by a small set of influential business decision markers which is not the same of individuals or groups beyond the control the other individuals within the same structure.\n(5) I do not boycott McDonald\u2019s because of the action of McDonald\u2019s Israel but rather the action of the government it funds.Reduction of consumption in whole or part is better than none.", "I think the Streisand effect will make some people boycott them even longer now", "Letting go of this perpetrator will set even more dangerous precedent.. Sue them till kingdom come.."], ["It will be tough for Gerbang Alaf to win this, because McD brand is not owned by Gerbang Alaf, they are just a franchisee.\nBDS can argue that they are targetting McD globally, and its not a defamation per se specifically to Gerbang Alaf's McD.\nBased on that, Gerbang Alaf need to provide a prima facie or proof that BDS is out to get them specifically.\nWill be a long battle at the court, Palestine dah wiped out from the map pun belum tentu settle. (unless both parties decide to settle outside of the court)", "BDS can argue that they are targetting McD globally,\nExcept that the global BDS movement does not call for action against McDonald's:\nhttps://bdsmovement.net/make-an-impact\nCompanies such as Coca Cola and McDonald\u2019s are not priorities for the BDS movement at this stage. We focus on companies that play a clear and direct role in sustaining Israeli violations of international law and that we can have a tangible impact upon.\nThis is specifically action by BDS Malaysia, against McDonalds Malaysia.", "I just read BDS Malaysia website, they also stated the same thing:\nhttps://bdsmalaysia.com/boycott/\nIn the end I dont know what sort of evidence Gerbang Alaf will bring to the court against BDS Malaysia.", "I just read BDS Malaysia website, they also stated the same thing:\nhttps://bdsmalaysia.com/boycott/\nFrom that BDS Malaysia website:\nBerkenaan McD, ia bukan target utama BDS Malaysia. Ia dalam kategori Grassroots organic boycott targets. Berikut penerangan berkenaannya:\nMcDonald\u2019s (AS), Burger King (AS), Papa John\u2019s (AS), Pizza Hut (AS), WIX (Israel), dsb. kini disasarkan di beberapa negara melalui kempen boikot organik akar umbi. Ia bukan dimulakan oleh pergerakan BDS.\nPemboikotan ini adalah kerana syarikat-syarikat ini, atau cawangan atau francais mereka di Israel, telah secara terbuka menyokong kezaliman Israel terhadap warga Palestin, dan/atau memberikan derma dalam bentuk yang murah hati kepada tentera Israel di tengah-tengah serangan yang Israel sedang lakukan terhadap 2.3 juta rakyat Palestin di Semenanjung Gaza.\n...\nJikalau McD Malaysia keluarkan kenyataan terbuka mengutuk jenayah pembunuhan beramai-ramai yg dilakukan oleh Israel terhadap warga Palestin, inshaAllah, BDS Malaysia akan keluarkan kenyataan bahawa McD bukan lagi dalam senarai sasaran syarikat utk diboikot di Malaysia.\nAgain, this is a boycott specifically by BDS Malaysia against McDonalds Malaysia, and there is no global boycott by the parent org (as there is for Caterpillar/ Sodastream etc)\nFor the actual defamation suit, I suspect that this may be more related to whatever BDS Malaysia has been putting out on their social media/ campaign material, more than the website itself.", "I think BDS International and BDS Malaysia are separate entity, though they are sister organization, but the one that in this case is BDS Malaysia. And with all those inflammatory and defamatory (some said it's actually factually incorrect) statements and the sheer amount of tweets / tiktok videos that can be put into deposition for the court to decide, it is actually a strong case.\nI'm not a lawyer. I want they go head to head and use law to resolve the issues, to test our legal system.\nAnd, it is actually good, because maybe we will know who is funding BDS Malaysia."], ["In the same line of thinking...\nIsrael uses equipment made by Boeing and Airbus for their military. So if you sit in the airlines that use Boeing and Airbus planes... you're also contributing to those company. So don't fly anywhere okay... don't fly to go for prayers... don't fly go holiday... Just sit at home. Thankfully Intel and AMD didn't come and support Israel... Wanna see what kinda boycott these jokers come up with. That would have been good. Keep them off the bloody internet.\nWanna help Palastine...do something that matters.", "Actually Intel will be constructing 25 billion usd plant in Israel but i don't see much news or controversy about it in Malaysia. I wonder how boycott on Intel would work .lol", "In the same line of thinking...\nIsraelis breathe air. You are also breathing the same air as them. Don't breathe air then. Lets see if they can do that. I hope they do that.", "And that is why you are ask to boycott what you can, because everyone knows you cannot boycott every single thing. The easiest thing to boycott is fast food and fast fashion.\nIf every cause in the world were to follow this absolutism logic, no cause would ever succeed at all.", "I know the need to make a statement...but those who do this are like those 'Stop Oil' protesters...just menyusah-kan orang lain, by jamming up the roads, but in the end what impact wan or expecting? When everything you use or wear is made from oil... Same analogy...if some company says they're supporting Israel, in some way you boycott...but boycott also some only...apa ni...? Anyways to each his own... Thanks for the civil conversation. \ud83d\ude42", "This such a retharded mindset. This is clearly miles different than stop oil campaign", "Wanna help Palestine? Boycott Qatar Airways and Al Jazeera. Qatar is funding Hamas terror."], ["I'm going to protest American companies to show I'm against genecide. The first thing I'll do is post about it on American owned social networks using my iphone \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02", "That's called using their tools against them.", "We did it we successfully destroyed America! Wait isnt my American technologies work?", "Maybe learn about context. We are talking about malaysian mekdi here.", "American social media not really it\u2019s owned paritialy by non-US cooperation.\nThe IPhone uses parts made by Arabs etc.\nIt\u2019s a nuance thing.\nThe reality is you\u2019re overthinking what the boycott is, it was always aimed at reducing the consumption of goods or services in products deemed optional.\nNot all cooperations work with Israel so not all cooperations are boycotted.\nThe ones that do, also would be analysis on their importance to the individual etc.\nThe majority of boycotted products are products replaceable en-mass.", "McDonald's, KFC and Starbucks, etc also have asian made or non American made parts used for their everyday operations. They also import a lot of foreign ingredients and hire a lot of non-american, and yes Muslim workers.\nAlso iphones are replaceable as are American owned social media networks.", "I am well aware. I think you\u2019re not realising the point of a boycott, it\u2019s to reduce the sales directly to the end seller which in short the objective of reducing the consumption.\nThe majority of the goods boycotted are basically: replaceable. Will it impact other industries sure, that\u2019s why it puts more pressure on the cooperations.", "The point of the boycott is to not support certain american companies because they \"support\" genecide. But other companies that \"support\" genecide no need to boycott because it would be too inconvenient for the said boycotters. I'm sorry not trying to be rude, but it just seems so ironic and hilarious to me.", "To be fair you couldn\u2019t spell genocide.\nThat aside, it achieves the aim set in motion and it is your lack of ability to think which leads to the perceived irony.", "You don't need to spell words correctly to have rational thoughts. Those who like to point out spelling mistakes usually do so because they have nothing left to say in the argument.", "I gave an argument. You failed to read or understand the point of it.\nReduction in consumption of goods that fund a government that engages in the crimes against the victim nation etc.", "\"I'm going to boycott McDonald's, but instead of getting a large set, I'll get a medium set.\" That'll show Israel I mean business!", "Your point is beyond terrible.\n\u201cI am going to boycott McDonald\u2019s because they are alternative choices I can safely make without impacting my life in an adverse way while openly hurting a cooperation that funds a government involuntarily to do crimes abroad\u201d.\nThis argument does not mean \u201cI am boycotting this item which is actively used with limited or no choices eg: Medicine or Computer chips which can adversely impact my life.\u201d\nBoycotts are selective by nature and usually only applied to goods or services which can easily be replaced or not used.", "Which Genocide are you talking about?"], ["Has no part in this but I got prosperity burger earlier and there're bunch of discount. Well will keep this in view lol."], ["McD Malaysia owned by Saudi. Why not boycott Saudi instead?", "Better boycott Qatar. They support terror cells like Hamas."], ["You know at the end the Malays will just come back and McD will do a massive marketing to lure them. The same people who boycott won\u2019t be doing it long.", "Seems like they can't wait that long and its hurting their business", "No worries. That is why they having massive promos", "Doesn't seem like McDonald's can wait for that any longer. They're obviously bleeding.", "Our McD may be going bankrupt, and have to sell their business on the cheap to McD US. Yay! /s", "bro not funny enough to be sarcastic \ud83d\ude29", "This is not the first time Mcdonald faced a boycott in Malaysia as well so they definitely used to it already.", "True they been hating Israel for decades", "Blame it on Dr M policy", "Ya ya because Dr M is the one killing humans being with bombs. It\u2019s not like the Malays in this country have a brain and can think for themselves right?", "Have you ever heard of Mosab Hassan Yousef [1]?\nSometimes, when you have have been living in the same circle and believing everything your circle is telling you, you developed a tunnel vision and completely bias. Try listen to both sides of the arguments.\n[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpnvUIcvNUE"], ["It\u2019s always fun to see Malaysians shooting themselves in the foot because they are not smart of enough to see certain differences"], ["Good job Mekdi!"], ["BDSMalaysia"], ["So if I say, \"don't eat McDonald's food, it's unhealthy and expensive\", no one bats an eye.\nBut if I say, \"don't eat McDonald's food, it's funding the Israeli government\", that's grounds for a lawsuit? What are we, Americans?", "Because the former is factually based, while the latter is not (or at the very least, not provably factual regarding McD Malaysia).\nThis is actually a strange situation - if the boycott campaign was ineffective, Gerbang Alaf would've likely ignored it, and the fact that BDS Malaysia was making... questionable claims would've been quietly ignored. That they're not is indicative that it's had some impact beyond just their reputation, and as such Gerbang Alaf is taking serious action to point out that the claims by BDS Malaysia are unsubstantiated.\nI expect that this is just the first in a multi-pronged response by them, let's see how it goes.", "Boycott affected Gerbang Alaf. McD head company just laughing at us with their skyrocketing stock price", "Because the former is factually based, while the latter is not\nNot really sure about that, though. I mean, when you consider the stuff the mamak and kopi tiam places offer, McD's aren't that bad. Hell, I would argue (if someone would bother to pay me lol) that because of the higher premium price of McD's, you're less likely to overeat a McD cheese burger than a super oily koay teow goreng with teh tarik.\nBut when I think about it some more, I think I kinda agree with Gerbang Alaf. McDonald's is headquartered in the US, not Israel. Plus there's also the RM1 million contribution made by McD Malaysia.\nI understand the reasoning of the BDS movement, but in this particular case they boycotters picked the wrong target.", "I mean, when you consider the stuff the mamak and kopi tiam places offer, McD's aren't that bad.\nDing ding ding. That's why you don't make specificclaims unless you damn kau certain. Saying McDonald's is unhealthy is generally supported by facts, but if you start making specific claims - ie, McDonald's is the unhealthiest food in Malaysia - then you're in trouble.\nBDS Malaysia seems to have alleged that McDonald's Malaysia was either supportive or funding Israel, and that's the kind of specifity that you need to watch out for - they could've stopped at something more moderate (ie McDonald's should do more to help Palestinians) but they didn't, and are know paying a price for that.", "The contribution to the Palestinian humanitarian fund is deemed by BDS as not strong enough as a position for McDonald's Malaysia to take.\nFor context, even Israel provides humanitarian relief for Palestine. Doesn't mean squat in McDonald's scale and in terms of solidifying their support for the Palestinian people like the rest of Malaysians.\nNot to mention that RM 1,000,000 is a mere ~0.03% of their annual revenue. Basically if someone makes RM 10,000 salary, he/she just donated RM 3. That's how little it is.", "Not quite, some instagrammers listed examples and reason why mcd is not healthy and is not hazard and got sued and we know the drill later.\nYes they sue, just not in this big media coverage but they will sue", "Can you share the examples? I suspect that these guys made the mistake of trying to be specific, and as said elsewhere, that can screw you over if you cannot prove it.", "This is the right way to get people to lose weight"], ["McD Malaysia should do what Russia done, rebrand to different name , Russia McD replacement still use same supplier as original McD, same menu just rename etc"], ["All BDS is asking McDonald's Malaysia is to openly condemn the Israeli genocidal policies and publicly state its support for the Palestinian people. I tried to look it up and McDonald's Malaysia has not been able to release that particular press statement.\nThey can't even do that while being able to make other statements tiptoeing around it.\nhttps://bdsmalaysia.com/2023/10/15/press-statement-by-bds-malaysia-in-response-to-the-statement-by-mcdonalds-malaysia/\nLet me be clear - I hadn't boycotted them because I agreed (past tense) that their entity was different than the rest of McDonald's corp.\nHowever, this legal attack on BDS (which consequently might damage BDS effort on companies that do directly support Israel) and the fact that they have hesitated to openly condemn Israel, are sending a hint that they are not that independent after all.\nBoycott on.", "Why does McDonald's have to condemn Israel though? It's fine for someone to not have a stand on every issue. Can BDS blindly make accusations at anyone?\nBDS: <Company X> hasn't condemned Israel. Boycott them!", "They are asking to condemn a genocide. A genocide which their counterpart in Israel gave free meals and money to child killers.\nIt\u2019s like this\u2014> PAS kelate kills orang asli. DAP Terengganu asks PAS Terengganu to condemn PAS kelate action. If DAP then says PAS Terengganu is okay with PAS kelate actions by being silent, is DAP wrong? Or is DAP being unreasonable?\nMust use DAP and PAS to give yall some local example. Hopefully all of the monyets in here can understand better.", "Genocide?\nIn January of this year, the European Commission explicitly stated it considers it \u201cnot appropriate\u201d to use the term apartheid in connection with the State of Israel. Meanwhile Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by most Western countries. The Arab populations in Gaza, the West Bank, and inside Israel, have all increased tremendously since Israel\u2019s founding, but a genocide means a huge decline in population. The Arabs ruled by Israel (not Hamas or the PA), far from being subject to apartheid, get the same health care as Jewish Israelis, go to the same universities and restaurants, ride the same public transportation, vote in elections, serve in the parliament and the Supreme Court, and as doctors, lawyers, and in other professions. That is nothing like apartheid. It\u2019s Hamas who doesn\u2019t accept LGBTQ and atheists. Who oppresses women or other religions. Don\u2019t defend the real oppressors. Look up \u201cPallywood\u201d and learn about the shady propaganda tactics of the Palestinians.", "Yes. Genocide.\nhttps://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-un-experts-call-international-community-prevent-genocide-against"], ["Whatever."], ["People all say boycott boycott that without understanding basic stuff. Do they even know how much royalty mcd pays? 5%. Let's say they sold 3 billion rm. 5% that's 150 million. In usd around 32 million. Mcdonald annual revenue is 25 billion. Malaysias total royalty is only 0.128%. Of mcds total revenue. That's an insignificant amount. Us government as well as many other countries provide aid to Israel starting in tens of millions to ten of billions of dollars. Even if mcdonald malaysia gave their 100% annual sales to Israel directly it would be insignificant. You might say oh it's not the impact but the idealogy or something but have you thought about the people who work there? Whether it be Starbucks or mcd these people earn very little in regards to our rising cost of living. They themselves aren't doing anything wrong. They're just working. Whether it be to raise money during their semester break. Or providing for their family. But cause of the boycott they're at risk of loosing their jobs. Did you think the company is gonna bear the loss? No they'll just downsize. Shut down stores. Lay off people.\nBerjaya has already laid off workers from Starbucks. If you wanna boycott fine boycott. But don't boycott companies like mcd and Starbucks whose only connection to this conflict is royalties. If you must boycott boycott companies who have their manufacturing or workers in us/Israel etc. Not in malaysia. You're just harming your own country.\nAs far as I see there's so much double standard. Boycott Starbucks but not Intel or heinz. When Israel kills Palestinians everyone yelling genocide and occupier. But when Egypt and Jordan occupy the land it's fine. Arab states kill hundreds of thousands among themselves no one saying they're committing genocide. Everyone shouting we stand in solidarity with Palestine. What about the 50+ thousand Christians who have been massacred by Islamic insurgents in Nigeria just cause they were Christian. What about the hundreds of thousands dead in the Yemen and Syrian civil war.\nAt the same time people keep spreading misinformation about Palestinians being native to the land. Hamas interior minister himself said in 2012. Every Palestinian can trace their Arab roots to countries like Yemen, Syria etc."], ["Why doesn\u2019t anyone boycott facebook? Iirc mark zuckerburg has Jewish blood or follows Jewish tradition in many instances.", "So people are boycotting Jews, not Israel?", "Their platform is also being used by the Israelis no?", "Sure but you said people should be boycotting Facebook because Mark has \u201cjewish blood\u201d", "I thought everyone is boycotting everything Jewish and shit, or am I wrong?", "No they\u2019re boycotting companies that support Israel in certain ways.\nIf people are boycotting something because they\u2019re Jewish or whatever then that\u2019s just being antisemitic.", "But how is a local owned franchise, whose owners are monetarily supporting Palestinians, in support of Israel?\nI mean, it\u2019s not really going to affect Israel nor McD hq, since they are going to be collecting those royalty fees regardless of whether you make a profit or not I think.", "I don\u2019t know, I just know this is about Israel, not Jewish people.", "I see, well anyways, thx for letting me pick your brain. I\u2019m just trying to understand better this very strange situation.\nDon\u2019t get me wrong, o can understand the sentiment of it, but the actions is not very logical, at least to me.", "Actually X(twitter) also since Elon Musk is Jewish, but if you ask those people boycotting, they will say it\u2019s these two platforms that can help to get the word out about the boycott to reach a bigger audience konon. It\u2019s selective boycott at this point", "Exactly. Like I can dig the whole support for Palestine thing. But to boycott things that only hurt your own fellow citizens, is idiotic. Factually speaking, the Israelis don\u2019t feel a thing from this boycott, and I don\u2019t think the US hq gives a damn either, since the Malaysian franchise is owned by locals and people from the Middle East and all the US hq does is collect fees regardless of your profit or loss, I think.\nHowever, if you\u2019re boycotting to lower the price, this I actually support. They seriously overcharge their food nowadays."], ["Only on r/malaysia i see people going hard defending mcd", "I have been boycotting McDonalds months ago (I have no money)", "Me boycotting mcd bcs i dont have money but just went there yesterday to redeem my free double cheeseburger lol", "only on r/malaysia I can see this stupid comment.", "Gotta use waze/fb/instagram/apple product i guess", "Why so bitter? Prosperity sedap bro.", "Everyone like the food, but not these greedy corporations.", "Cool story bro.", "Some people just wanna see the world burn. As long as they are not the one who\u2019s getting torched.", "this place is just a racist chinese sub who like to pretend they are above others", "It just a greedy corporate, they sell things in usd price but pay the employees in ringgit. Chill out bro, its not like mcd will give them a year free supply of prosperity burger to them lol."], ["Love the info you gave but why wasn\u2019t the analogy \u201c3 ringgit from your 20 ringgit\u201d"], ["Oh thats easy, just \"dont buy them\" and it'd still count as legal boycott, dont need to push others, everyones already share the same sentiment lmao"], ["I think people have the right to channel their protest / support towards various companies as a way to deliver particular messages. The idea is to deliver the messages towards the appropriate companies, and whether the message being delivered strikes the appropriate note(s) or not.\nThe lawsuit towards the protesters was created by the owners of the Malaysian and Singaporean franchises, Lionhorn Pte Ltd, Saudi Arabian Sheik Fahd and Abdulrahman Alireza. They operate the business in a manner that did not contribute directly to the war effort by Israel. This was done by the global McDonald\u2019s franchise owners, which are not Lionhorn. So while Lionhorn contributes marginally to the global McDonald\u2019s franchise, Lionhorn is in fact owned by different people altogether who are seeing their profits heavily impacted by these boycotts.\nFurthermore the same people own the franchise across Malaysia and Singapore, both having diverse socioeconomic and demographic characteristics; the people in Singapore are far more US-centric compared to Malaysia, yet you don\u2019t see the same level of boycotts being practiced in Singapore. The franchise are owned by the same individuals from Saudi Arabia, are they suing anyone from Singapore for defamation?\nSimilarly many businesses we use in fact have ties to Israel; Microsoft, Google, Meta, Amazon, Intel, etc.. are we even able to boycott using all the products either ties to Israel? Are we even willing to? Even if we did, are we able to put a dent significant enough into their businesses and profits that they would consider our protests and make changes?"]]}
+{"title": "Making mistakes in the new year? Ernest Ng has gotchu back", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vo7a2/making_mistakes_in_the_new_year_ernest_ng_has/", "num_comment": 4, "flairlabel": ["Meme Monday"], "header": "", "comments": [["For Malaysian memes every day of the week, please check out c/memeeveryday at our sister community monyet.cc! (why?)\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns."], ["Sos"], ["Aiyyaaaa why u gotta speak like uncle roger la and put your manglish in written format haiiyAaaa", ""]]}
+{"title": "Kapten Malaysia from 1980s", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vmlxx/kapten_malaysia_from_1980s/", "num_comment": 15, "flairlabel": ["Mildly interesting"], "header": "", "comments": [["Is 70 sen considered cheap back then?\nThere\u2019s a siri komik nasional?", "I remember sending publisher rm1 and stamp to publisher with checklist and they send me 3 comics, usually backdated old stock. pretty cheap source entertainment back then, but again ice cream is 10 cent, oren bodo is 30 cent.\nAnd some of the art is very incredible while some is iffy at best. it made me who I am today, trying to create my own comics book (still struggling though)", "The heck is an oren bodo? \ud83d\ude02", "my mom say yes", "My little star weekly newsletter is 50 sens in the 90s in full color, in the 80s 70 sens better come with lacquered paper."], ["Heh\nColek"], ["I love how the title have nothing to do with the picture"], [""], ["Wow, didn't know that we had a Captain Malaysia haha"], ["Ibrahim Hamid was most definitely tweaking when he made this."], ["Why is the coverpage showing a lady in baju ketat yg tak senonoh??? Must ban the komik before our innocent remaja get their hands on this komik. \ud83d\ude09\ud83d\ude09Rosak minda diorang, tau? \ud83d\ude09"], ["<image>", "You know if you crop it like that...."], [">Saya percaya Allah itu satu dan dan tiada Tuhan melainkan dia\n>Aku tak suka pembuli, tak kisah dari mana\n>Mu kecek molek sikit\n>Dia member aku"], ["I've heard of Captain Boleh but not Captain Malaysia."]]}
+{"title": "Needs further investigation", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vtfb5/needs_further_investigation/", "num_comment": 15, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Today i spotted a female beggar around KLCC with her child. Shocked bc i saw her sit her kid upright then push him back down repeatedly in a way that may or may not cause brain damage. Or they could be just playing, i can't tell but it certainly is a little suspicious. If any of you see her around, then probably pay some attention so we can figure out if the authorities should get involved.", "comments": [["thats why I never give them a single cent ever"], ["Used to have so many of these purportedly Rohingya beggars around Ampang Point area but lately their numbers have declined quite significantly. Then just as I thought at long last the problem has been tackled professionally by the authorities they suddenly resurface in numbers in and around KLCC. Saw a bunch of their kids begging from one cafe to another inside the mall last Saturday.", "there are many of them on roads near traffic lights too. kids are walking in the middle of the road with no spacial awareness and knock your window when the light turns red"], ["Look I am a cold hearted mf who won't give a single cent to even charity BUT\nSmartphones aren't that rare or hard to come by, but then again I know their prolly leeches who use other kindness to live off of and looks kinda high spec phone for \" beggers\"."], ["she got a smartphone...wow", "A phone is ubiquitous and necessary. That\u2019s not the issue here"], ["She has an iPhone 15 pro", "I doubt that. Curved screen, should be an Android."], ["She is texting their group \"harini manyakk buley itu malaysia punya orang sanad sanad baik kasi itu wang, ayuh lipak cafe itu petang aaa\""], ["a black person? this is typical MO. children are used to raise pity & they blatantly deceive peeps (e.g. lipat tangan, balut/ bandage tapi expose siku, supaya nampak macam disabled). best to report em \ud83d\udcaf idk the right channels though", "Maybe I should go to KLCC to beg while recovering from a broken wrist :26557:", "you can try \ud83d\ude02 malaysians are very kind. now im reminded of that pissed restaurant in jb", "Oh yeah that one, that particular one has had enough", "We sure are. Went to the bank to withdraw some cash and with my busted right hand I had a hard time getting the card out getting the money into my wallet and etc. They asked if I needed help with concerned faces. I was grateful but also livid that they saw me as an OKU :26557:\nMalaysians are so kind and helpful :29091:"], ["Dude, most phones these days are smart phones.. whats the problem?"]]}
+{"title": "PAS lists out DAP\u2019s top 10 \u201cvenomous narrative\u201d throughout 2023", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vp6qa/pas_lists_out_daps_top_10_venomous_narrative/", "num_comment": 31, "flairlabel": ["Politics"], "header": "", "comments": [["Summoning the GOAT /u/jwteoh ...", "lmao, new year new me, imma pass the torch to you guys, please save it so you can copy paste it next time.", "u/jwteoh", "They should just create a bot at this point.", "jwteoh! jwteoh! jwteoh!"], ["PAS ending the year/ starting the new year by introducing 10 fitnahs.", "It's cool how you started and ended your sentence with the same word."], ["who have neglected their Islamic values and would even consider their fellow Malays to be racist for defending the Malay race or Islam\nYes, all these are very islamic and not racist in nature, Zurk Ahmad must have his head so far up Hadi's ass\nHadi: Other races are challenging Muslim's political power: https://www.nst.com.my/news/politics/2023/08/939467/voting-mandatory-if-other-races-are-challenging-muslims-political-power\nHadi: Non-Muslims must be grateful for \u2018being given a place\u2019 here, should just let Malays continue leading country: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2023/06/07/hadi-non-muslims-must-be-grateful-for-being-given-a-place-here-should-just-let-malays-continue-leading-country/73042\nHadi: Only Islam can rule, others must be 'pak turut': https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/357628\nPAS politicians insinuated that their rivals are the enemies of Allah: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2023/06/27/pas-man-says-sorry-after-calling-on-allah-to-defend-kedah-from-enemies-video/76640\nMuhyiddin claimed Christians of being in cahoots with a group of Jews to \u201cChristianise\u201d Malaysia: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2022/11/19/muhyiddin-in-hot-water\nDr. M: Parties led by non-Malays are 'parti pendatang': https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/09/04/dr-m-calls-parties-led-by-non-malays-039parti-pendatang039\nNon muslim woman fined for wearing shorts in Kelantan: https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/non-muslim-malaysian-woman-fined-for-wearing-shorts-in-kelantan\nNon muslim unisex salon ban + closure: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/12/856735/terengganu-govt-enforce-unisex-hair-salon-ban-warns-offenders-fines\nNon muslims are the root of corruption https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2022/08/20/pas-hadi-claims-non-muslims-non-bumiputera-make-up-the-bulk-of-roots-of-corruption/\nPAS/Zul Zuhaimy: Mahu sembelih orang bukan Islam: https://www.utusan.com.my/nasional/2022/11/mahu-sembelih-orang-bukan-islam-zul-huzaimy-mohon-maaf/\nPN: May 13 rhetoric election propaganda: https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/78211/netizens-raise-alarm-over-may-13-hate-content-posted-on-tiktok\nHadi: Malaysia has to be ruled by muslims: https://buletinonlines.net/v7/index.php/malaysia-mesti-dipimpin-oleh-melayu-islam/\nSanusi demolished colonial era legally built Hindu temples and label critics 'drunk on toddy': https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2020/12/03/lfl-slams-kedah-mbs-heavy-handed-defence-of-temple-demolition/ https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/553910\nPAS: Nurse's clothing too tight: https://www.malaysiadateline.com/dakwa-pakaian-nurse-ketat-mp-pas-kena-sekolah-dengan-presiden-persatuan-jururawat/\nPAS: No concerts because they promote hedonism: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2022/08/25/pas-urges-govt-to-cancel-all-upcoming-foreign-artist-concerts\nPN: The Malay Proclamation: https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/2023/05/1096600/proklamasi-orang-melayu-kini-dapat-sokongan-pemimpin-pas-bersatu-dan\nAmar (PAS): Not having tap water is not a big deal. Villagers know how to dig their own wells: https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2023/08/08/kelantan-villagers-know-how-to-dig-their-own-wells-says-amar/\nNik Abduh (PAS): Citizens should pray instead of requesting/begging for help: https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2021/06/29/pas-mp-dismisses-white-flag-campaign-says-better-to-pray/\nPS: Omitted a few non 3R articles.", "Next time any PAS BS: u/jwteoh i choose you!", "Again, can we do it in a physical form? Like erecting banners and translate to BM for a greater audience instead of posting it on Reddit again and again and only us eating it up?", "I took screenshots of the articles that GOAT /u/jwteoh has listed and compiled them together as a collage here.\nThis is just a first version.\nFeel free to play around with it.", ""], ["Couple months later, \"Gong Xi Fa Cai\" wishes from PAS."], ["Anything PAS"], ["Below is a chronological list of some of DAP\u2019s domineering struggles throughout 2023 which would have \u2018cross swords\u2019 with PAS so to speak:\nThe then DAP Selangor state EXCO Datuk Teng Chang Kim behaved barbarically by linking liquor issue to prayers (January 2023).\nThe then Penang deputy chief minister II Prof Ramasamy Palanisamy questioned the dominance of the Malays in the public service (February 2023).\nFormer DAP publicity secretary Tony Pua claimed that Malaysia no longer needs Malay political parties (June 2023).\nDAP tried to fan racial sentiment by politicising the Kota Bahru Municipal Council\u2019s compound on a boutique owner whose staff was fined for wearing shorts in the latter\u2019s business premises (June 2023).\nDAP chairman Lim Guan Eng made a 3R (race, religion and royalty) slanderous speech claiming a \u2018green wave\u2019 will destroy Chinese temples and that non-Muslims will face various sanctions if PAS were to win the Penang state election (July 2023).\nDAP Ipoh Timor MP Howard Lee Chuan How committed misinterpretation of Quranic verses by urging Muslims to support the unity government (September 2023).\nDAP vice-chairman Nga Kor Ming condemned the costumes of Hamas fighters that were worn by school pupils in conjunction with the Palestinian Solidarity Week while urging the relevant authorities to take action (October 2023).\nDAP veteran leader Tan Sri Lim Kit Siang displays his chauvinist attitude by raising the issue of the Federal Constitution allowing non-Malays to be a Malaysian Prime Minister (November 2023).\nDAP Federal Territory chairman Tan Kok Wai pushing for the unity government to conduct local authority elections in Kuala Lumpur (December 2023).\nDAP Beruas MP Ngeh Koo Ham proposed the appointment of non-Muslims to sit in the special committee formed by the Federal Government to study the Syariah law (December 2023).", "Sounds like PAS is pissed enough that DAP is uncovered their own bullshit to public. I just hope the Malays are smart enough that PAS is a party not a religion.", "It is basically \u201cI knew all of that is true, but I don\u2019t like it when it\u2019s you telling me that\u201d"], ["Top 10 like the most minor stuff lol. Where is PAS list for this year", "I'll be watching, no worries"], ["None of those 10 sound venomous to me. In fact, they sound like reasonable things to say. Which one of this is offensive?\nThe then DAP Selangor state EXCO Datuk Teng Chang Kim behaved barbarically by linking liquor issue to prayers (January 2023).\nActually what he said in response to PAS trying to ban alcohol sales at a mall in Penang: DAP veteran Teng had posted on his Facebook page that \u201cif you get intoxicated just by looking, that\u2019s your problem, not the alcohol\u2019s\u2026 your prayers have been in vain\u201d.\nWhat exactly is wrong with that?\nThe then Penang deputy chief minister II Prof Ramasamy Palanisamy questioned the dominance of the Malays in the public service (February 2023).\nAnd what exactly is wrong with that?\nFormer DAP publicity secretary Tony Pua claimed that Malaysia no longer needs Malay political parties (June 2023).\nAnd what exactly is wrong with that?\nDAP tried to fan racial sentiment by politicising the Kota Bahru Municipal Council\u2019s compound on a boutique owner whose staff was fined for wearing shorts in the latter\u2019s business premises (June 2023).\nAnd what exactly is wrong with that?\nDAP chairman Lim Guan Eng made a 3R (race, religion and royalty) slanderous speech claiming a \u2018green wave\u2019 will destroy Chinese temples and that non-Muslims will face various sanctions if PAS were to win the Penang state election (July 2023).\nAnd what exactly is wrong with that? That's happening even in KL with dozens of Hindu temples, even as recently as last week, the 103 year old temple in Sentul being destroyed by YTL. Ever heard of a 103 year old mosque getting destroyed?\nDAP Ipoh Timor MP Howard Lee Chuan How committed misinterpretation of Quranic verses by urging Muslims to support the unity government (September 2023).\nSo non-muslims are not allowed to urge Muslims to support the government?\nDAP vice-chairman Nga Kor Ming condemned the costumes of Hamas fighters that were worn by school pupils in conjunction with the Palestinian Solidarity Week while urging the relevant authorities to take action (October 2023).\nIs it wrong to say that our young children don't need to be exposed to the trauma of some foreign shithole conflict that has nothing to do with Malaysia?\nDAP veteran leader Tan Sri Lim Kit Siang displays his chauvinist attitude by raising the issue of the Federal Constitution allowing non-Malays to be a Malaysian Prime Minister (November 2023).\nyahdda\nDAP Federal Territory chairman Tan Kok Wai pushing for the unity government to conduct local authority elections in Kuala Lumpur (December 2023).\nyahdda democracy bad eh?\nDAP Beruas MP Ngeh Koo Ham proposed the appointment of non-Muslims to sit in the special committee formed by the Federal Government to study the Syariah law (December 2023).\nenough lah with the pretense that Syariah law doesn't affect non-Muslims. We saw what happened to Ninja Joe restaurant, that Hindu lady who still hasn't gotten back her kids, the Perlis lady and so many.", "Mate, good effort in trying to explain but sadly imbecilic hillbillies just don't care. No matter what sorta facts you present, they've got their mind set. That's the effect of 'teh tarik by the tap'"], ["And how many \"venomous narrative\" has PAS said throughout 2023?\nNurses' uniform\n\"Sepupu Lim Kuan Yew\"\nCalling non-muslim voters as ingrate\nJust off the top of my head."], ["\u201cThis is because they\u2019ve succeeded in appointing spokesmen among the Malays who have forgotten about their Malay-ness\u2026.\u201d asserted Zurk.\nWhoa!"], ["This is no longer Parti Islam. Should rename as Parti Melayu Sr-Malaysia, PMS."], ["Reminds me of a satire work by Fahmi Reza a while ago:\nMinda Presiden PAS\nDAP DAP DAP DAP DAP DAP DAP DAP"], ["Attacking DAP makes no sense because DAP is not fighting with PAS in election", "PAS is obsessed with DAP, like a stalker"], ["Case of the pot calling the kettle black"], ["Lame"], ["Umpama periuk memanggil cerek hitam."]]}
+{"title": "Why is PADU bad for the rakyat? Won\u2019t you like it if the assistance arrived towards the targeted people in need?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vs3j9/why_is_padu_bad_for_the_rakyat_wont_you_like_it/", "num_comment": 49, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Like it\u2019s already classic that the government had its own citizens details and informations on the click of their mouse.\nWhat difference will it make if they get digitalization identity of each of the nric card holder?\nBesides i dont think they will make it only those with padu can claim the subsidies unless they want backlash from public", "comments": [["It's good overall if there is no leakage, good governance and low corruption.\nBut knowing Malaysia.. we are none of those above.\nIf that's the case, mentality will change towards -- why should I pay for their duit rasuah?", "Hm subcon money and sellinng datas to private companies.. i can see that happening", "Yea.. that too.\nI'm more concern of data leak due to lax security.. how many times now?\nEven if the security is good.. the prize is too great.", "The Election Commission is already selling your data as we speak.", "\"Selangor Menteri Besar Amirudin Shari has admitted that personal data of voters in the state had been used to enrol them in an insurance scheme managed by a subsidiary of state firm Menteri Besar Inc, as police reports were lodged over fears of a breach of personal data.\nAmirudin said the process was a \"pre-registration\" for the state government's Insurans Hayat Selangor (Insan), adding that the data were made available by the Election Commission.\n\"The data is public data that can be purchased and is used in pre-registration,\" he was quoted by Bernama as saying, following outrage on social media over the leakage of private data.\"", "PADU is the ideal tool for dictatorship.\nWith Digital ID, government can force webservice to force all users to identify themselves or loose access, which include Reddit. How do you think freedom of speech will be affected?\nCBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) also needed Digital ID to work, and just like the example of eMadani free RM100, how people earn their money, who they can transfer to, and where they can spend on can be controlled. Heck even expiry date for the money can be determined. Link to FMT article about CBDC.\nTargeted subsidy is just a trojan horse to bring in Digital ID, even that idea itself is flawed, and there are other solution for it, PADU is NOT the only solution.\nI would imagine monyet in this sub will be able to figure out how PADU can be weaponised against the people and wouldn't be so gullible falling for it, but I'm badly mistaken.", "its definitely a black mirror episode coming to real life\nman i cant imagine what kind of shit will happens once govt can oversee what we do in our phones", "Leakages will happen regardless, so I am very happy at least my tax money goes to targeted subsidies for people at least identified and vetted to receive help."], ["First of all PADU isnt bad for the Rakyat. It is actually a good initiative for the government. The thing that is bad about PADU is how it is being implemented, the government is linking PADU for their subsidy allocation and using PADU solely as that authentication method.\nThat is good on paper, the problem why it is bad practically is that the ones who sorely need the subsidy are already having a hard time facing the government red taped.\nPADU is meant to reduce the red tape, but in their wise move you as the people need to sign up for it first. While it is fine and danddy for people who are aware of such things, who has the capability to use the internet with such ease there would be those who dont such as the elderly or the destitute to name a few.\nWhat the government should be doing is linking it with their NRIC whom they already have link with a lot of governmental and non governmental institution. Such as education, wellfare, kwsp, banking, telecommunication, healthcare, SPR, JPJ, all of those are already in the hands of the government and many more, especially with how you are using your NRIC to fill up so many of their forms..\nInstead of automatically approving citizens to the database they are adding an extra layer of \"protection\". You could see it both way, the first is that the government is ensuring that the right money goes to the right people, but it could also be seen as the as a way for the government covering their asses for those whom they would undoubtedly miss. Passing the blame to the people for not signing up.\nFor the second action it should be a somewhat straight foward fix, educate the populace. The money that is used to promote the \"acheivement\" of the current government on bill boards, tv and radio commercials, self commemorating party, should be use to send people to seek those who dont have the facilities or capabilities to sign up for their program digitally. But they are not doing that, they are also putting a severely limited timeline for its implementation.\nJust look at how companies are migrating from an old apps to a new ones, it takes years to do so. The government is trying to shove it down to a couple of months. In doing so would ensure there would be people left behind.\nIn the end the government stance is handing off the responsibility of their job to the common folks. As if they are not being parasites already with the tax payers money and now the people need to do their job for them."], ["Because we still want the money, even when we don't deserve it. Just like certain quarters benefitting from some policies, whole the B40 of that race gets pittance. Making it more effective? Cannot, later we cannot benefit from it anymore.", "A T20(suami isteri gaji 5500 each) driving an Axia will get no fuel subsidy while a b40(gaji 2400 each) with X70 will get fuel subsidy\nIt's as if kerajaan wants the classes to hate each other", "PADU (database) and the subsidy formula is supposed to solve this. We will see how well it works.", "The problem with Malaysian government(Dari zaman madey lagi) in general is that they fail to disclose exactly how things will work\nPADU supposed to launch this month , and Subsidies policies in June, and we still have no idea what will happen", "PADU is launching tomorrow. We'll see what kind of details it's going to be.", "targeted subsidy is just dumb", "What's your alternative? And what's your solution to high operation expense in the budget?", "there's no need for any alternative...everyone paid their fair share of taxes so everyone is entitled to it\nimagine u're paying more for ur house because u're paying more n u can use whatever there is in the house but suddenly one day ur family say oh u cannot use the toilet or pay extra for toilet usage because u M40 T20...\nwould u still wanna continue paying for the house??", "Ah..... the \"Fuck you, I got mine\" argument \ud83d\udc4c", "why would the rich wanna pay taxes when they dont benefit from it?", "it's not about the car you drive and we don't know whether there's a limit of subsidied petrol.", "Well. They can set something like car 2000cc below and national car only etc etc"], ["Problem is it not practical due our Malaysia are known for their lack of efficiency"], ["There will always be people complaining about everything.", "My thumbs are tired from all this predictive typing on my RM5000 handphone\n/s af"], ["PADU is great initiative. a consolidation of updated information of people income can be used as a foundation to design more robust economic policies that will benefit people who really need them. This later can be expended to other initiatives in the future\nhowever Malaysian does not known for their cybersecurity practices and the job to construct this databse will fall to either:\ncronies that will subcon them to the lowest of subcon chains\ncontractor that offer the lowest price that also will subcon them to the lowest of subcon chains\nthe question will be:\ndo the govnt have taken necessary measures to ensure the data is will not be leaked?\nwho can access this data? will it be passed to banks or insurance companies?", "Some of your concerns are already answered by Rafizi:\nhttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0mYY7HFVSfM7z7xL7SrwBRkj5iSHL4BENxDMAMbRkUDKS8JBEa18YCvhqfc9kkEjnl&id=100044561133929&mibextid=UyTHkb", "PADU tidak akan melibatkan pembayaran setiap tahun kepada penyedia sistem pihak swasta seperti yang selalu berlaku kerana ia dibangunkan sepenuhnya oleh penjawat awam dan milik kerajaan sepenuhnya\nthey even have their own server and everything up by themselves. i kneel:26554:", "To believe they do everything themselves is just na\u00efve.\nDigital ID and CBDC will be a global initiative, and it will be linked together. Just check this map. There is no way they are creating the code themselves, it most likely came from another company from another country.\n<image>\nMost likely from someone connected to the World Economic Forum too.", "nothing related but world bank manager came to iium last week."], ["A specific \"this is how much fanfanye spend and got subsidies this month\" is a whole lot more invasive than just \"this is how much they earn this month\""], ["From what i remember, padu started development in june. Im not a programmer, but anyone in that field can share what do they think a project of this scale is done in 6 month. How reliable and secure is it?", "if i remember correctly, this is just phase 1. Not the full implementation", "Yes data security is phase 4, rilek la sup kok lu", "Data security can be as advanced as possible yet the assholes working inside will still leak or sell your data.", "When the rest of the world are also implementing Digital ID and CBDC in their own country in lockstep, it is most likely they share similar codebase.\nhttps://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cbdctracker/\nIt just so happen Rafizi decided to use fuel subsidy to trojan horse Digital ID into Malaysia. Sneaky bastard."], ["Would Singapore registered cars be allowed to pump Ron95 petrol once it goes into force?"], ["Good initiative but implementation is going to involve corruption. End result might be worst than current system."], ["What's PADU?", "Some national registry database. Typical government of the day gimmick, just like the previous email 1Malaysia and MySejahtera. Next election when the government changes, PADU will be shut down for sure.", "It is an ideal dictatorship tool, unless the people voice out to reject it outright before implementation, it will be very hard to cancel it because the next government will want to abuse it too.\nJust look at other countries which are also implementing Digital ID (CBDC requires Digital ID to work). https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cbdctracker/", "Lol the next government will just shut down the program and come up with another program with their own brand. What do you think is happening to MySejahtera?\nIf there's anyone who wants to abuse the data, it's more likely to be the private contractors who build these systems on the first place."], ["What if we have a \"rich\" family , but have sick parents or kid where after all of the expenses, they are worse then some B40. For example.\nWife salary (RM8k)+ Husband Salary (9k)\nParents got stroke, medication + caretaker already RM11k.\nSon have rare sickness and medication already RM3k per month\nFood, Bill, etc per month RM2000. (Already save alot from here, no eat out, etc)\nLeft RM1000 for saving.\nIf remove subsidi for this family, they will have no more money at the end of the month"], ["And of course when the padu launched, all price including your food price will increase 50%. So say hi to nasi lemak rm10 this year."], ["Susahkan rakyat lagi. Malaysia Madini."], ["Automated subsidies (whether blanket or targeted) should be an income supplement instead. (Call it brim, Madani cash, negative income tax, whatever)\nThen have annual review based on localized cost of living"], ["data security ?"], ["This govt either put in more tax or remove subsidy."], ["The good or bad is just speculation now. Let's judge it after 2-3 years"], ["In the past, the concession made was that even though government was race-focused and was full of cronyism and inefficiencies - we wanted to at least have subsidies so that we can see few cents on every ringgit back in a transparent way. Anybody from top 1% and bottom 20% can all see and benefit from this.\nRemoving this, maybe a good move. But I can see it falling sideways. Probably only getting it right like 7-8 years later."]]}
+{"title": "Do you all think that these bullshit property agents and nonsense Airbnb management team contribute to the fall in property prices?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vua0s/do_you_all_think_that_these_bullshit_property/", "num_comment": 24, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "", "comments": [["fall in property prices?:26554:", "Correction: not price, but value", "What is value if not market price", "Value is whatever the seller think it is. Market price is what the actual price PAID for it.\nFor example, a house owner think his house is value at RM 1 million / rent should be rm 8k per month. But no buyer/taker. House sit empty until bank foreclosure."], ["I genuinely hope property prices fall much, much more. Right now it is still very expensive in klang valley.", "Compared to where? Timor Leste? Compare our property price index vs avg monthly income (property affordability index) Malaysia is still considered very cheap. But if you look at MK or KLCC area then it skews the bell curve", "Very cheap compared to our local salaries?\nYou're nuts", "Very cheap? It's either too far that it's a freaking time expense or consumes more than minimum wages salary. And I'm considered a Malaysian M40, or Selangor B40."], ["Over supply and low demand causes values to drop. Prices artificially increased because agents kept pushing the prices up to increase their commissions. Now the market is correcting itself."], ["Translation: RM8000+ of pocket money every month for an influencer property in central bukit bintang", "Pocket money\u2026\u2026 sugar baby izit :26562:", "That girl shakes her ass and gets 40k per post"], ["I think they cause the value to go up. Cause when you join them then you will be looking for property which increase demand.", "Then what\u2019s the reason behind Tropicana selling W hotel for a lower expected value?"], ["probably wont fall unless management fees go up or some ownership tax comes to being\na lot of boomers just holding on to their dear depreciations lol"], ["oh this must be referring to the Exsim project Branniganz Suites beside sungai wang. The land is super prime, I believe it's around rm2000/sqft", "Oh it\u2019s from Exsim? Oh then the whole building is going to be an Airbnb place. Avoid this at all cost.", "Yeaaa definitely abnb/shortterm/rentals. Tbh the room sizes are too small(495sqft - 678sqft) to be suitable for family stay, so it'd be obvious that it's geared towards tourist and renting"], ["AirBnB actually is bad for local businesses. Businesses such as restaurant, laundry shops, bakery and grocery shops rely heavily on citizens live surroundings.\nKuala Lumpur is a good example for this, AirBnB condos obviously mainly for tourists to staying in. While you think: it\u2019s good cause at least got tourists stay in and contribute to Malaysia economy, yes it is but local businesses are closing down because there are no citizen needs, instead there are more and more souvenir shops, fast foods and etc.\nAlso, the property pricing too. For example in KL, without affordability for majority of citizens, the house will eventually owned by the rich/ the one who can afford. Those people will rent it out as AirBnB to earn profit. This also cause ur an decentralization and people will choose to live in far away from where they work, and stuck in traffic for hours everyday.\nAlso, it heavily affects the hotel industry. AirBnB is cheaper option, so tourist will choose it. Hotel are designated for tourists, and condo are for citizens to live in. Imagine what if one hotel had shut down, how many employees would be affected?\nFuck AirBnb and go to live in hotel room.", "Honestly building a property just for Airbnb purposes is plain stupid and greedy. I previously stayed in one by Exsim and it was horrible. The property literally got into a pretty bad condition after a year of opening (pest, mold, non existent management). Many of the Airbnb guests are not that civilized and the \u201chousekeeping team\u201d they hire barely know what cleaning is about.", "Government have the power to restrict or limit the AirBnB operations in Malaysia. Nga Kor Ming really just try hard looking at clean toilet but ignore the housing issues. There is a condo built entirely for AirBnB??? The housekeeping team also overwork la, not well organized also and less salary.\nStill the AirBnB issues are still not demanding enough for a tiny attention tho (even politicians are likely to have rented their 20th or 30th property with AirBnB also), since it\u2019s unreachable for citizens everyday life but it can deep rooted affect the community and the city.\nWhen it comes to benefit of politicians, citizens suffer.", "depending on the amount of people, airbnb is cheaper if you have super large groups. But for solo/duo travellers, a 2-3 star hotel is cheaper. Nowadays abnb is priced like 4-5 star hotels but without the 4 star services"], ["i think it is the opposite. They contribute to the property speculation and hence higher prices that what the average median income group could afford."], ["8k+ allowance whaaat"]]}
+{"title": "Found this interesting hotair balloon place at KL", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18vkll0/found_this_interesting_hotair_balloon_place_at_kl/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Entertainment"], "header": "Found this interesting new attraction at Sg Besi called KL Base. Basically it was the old airport with runway visible from the roadside. Turn in from Siu siu Restaurant through a long private road till middle part. Alson had Foodtruck Park (called KL Flyzone) , Inflatable Park and other event-based activities. Understood they have some plans and projects to turn it into new exciting hangouts.. Found their site called klflyzone.com.. Looks like they need more publicity.", "comments": [["This is the old Sungai Besai Air Base, previously the Air Forces HQ right in the middle of KL. Then the Air Force moved their HQ to Negeri Sembilan and this large piece of land is about to be used to build Bandar Malaysia under the infamous 1MDB.\nThe KL-SG High Speed Rail will also planned to be terminated here, but PH delayed Bandar Malaysia project in 2018 and it's developers have also fail to reach a deal among themselves. So this project is just hung up there and remained uncertain of its future.\nBtw, the MRT Putrajaya Line underground tunnel also pass through beneath the air base runway, they even built two stations inside this piece of land. But since Bandar Malaysia remained undeveloped, so these two stations were turned into provisional stations, sealed off from the public and waiting for the day where Bandar Malaysia is finally built.\nCurrently if you take the MRT Putrajaya Line, between Chan Sow Lin station and Kuchai station, you can saw the tunnel structure suddenly turn from round shape into square shape 2 times, a row of blue handrails will also appear on the side, this is where those two provisional station's platform located."]]}