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+{"title": "Is Singapore that much better than Malaysia", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x40i8/is_singapore_that_much_better_than_malaysia/", "num_comment": 451, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Often, Malaysians are triggered when they hear Singapore is better than Malaysia.\nBut, one has to admit that Singapore's economy, infrastructure, education, transportation,\nhealthcare, sanitation, political stability is superior to not only Malaysia, but one of the best in the world. Of course, it is way more expensive to live in Singapore but the prospect there is so much better.\nI myself am a Malaysian and I do agree with that. Other than the food, I don't really see how Malaysia fares well against Singapore and don't really see why Malaysians go ballistic over it.\nWhat's others' opinions on this?", "comments": [["They have strong civil service and a stable government with long term plan.", "something we can only dream of", "We can keep dreaming of*", "Wawasan 2040", "Wawasan 4040*", "3030: Am I just a joke to you guys?\n\"Yes.\"\nHaha.", "Wawasan 404 not found", "This, this is the accurate queue for us.", "accurate one is wawasan 3A03A0", "U mean Wawasan 3A03A0?", "Wawasan End Of Days. Cancel once end of world.", "\"system down\"", "in dubai:\n\"let's build a stable government with long term plan\"", "I guess this is what they say when other country managed like lego but ours is like jenga.", "during mahathir era was the most stable... so you want dictator style is it?", "Stable government during mahathir? Surely you're joking right", "thanos had 2/3rd consitution all the time\nif that not stable,i dunno what is", "Ahh sorry. I was talking about how he actively sabotages Anwar and other political rivals to get it. But if that's what you mean then yeah it's pretty stable \ud83d\udc4d", "What do you think Singapore did to other rival party? You think they play nice to stay in power for years.", "This. The double standard is real lol.\nThey think Singapore is a real democracy, but never bothered to learn about all the back room deals and shady negotiations. Lol.\nAdmittedly it does help with stability though. I mean, 1 single vision that's uninterrupted would do that.", "Ikr, drM is failure in comparison to LKY In term of dealing with opposition.", "Shhh. Don't say that. Later all the human rights activists gonna catch you and burn you at the stake lol.", "I think Dr. M's failure isn't how he dealt with the opposition.\nIt's what he used the power he gained for the country after he dealt with the opposition.\nWhich isn't much. But he did get Petronas Towers off the ground. For who, I dunno... :p", "all the small riot nvr turn to civil war,so", "True", "lol. at the cost of a lot of politician in jail.", "yep,unstablendictator is rare", "And big bonuses for civil servants to keep them happy.", "LKY was a dictator. No one bats an eye.\nEdit LKY", "Who lkw?", "They have GovTech and some of the best people actually choose to work there.\nMalaysia will find some way to either politicise or racialise the same damn thing.", "Malaysia doesn't want the pendatangs to work for them though. Happy and content working as a pendatang in a foreign country, at least you are economically treated fairly.", "we have a huge civil service though", "Huge but inefficient and corrupted. Praying that you don\u2019t need to work in a job that requires you to frequently meet with civil servants\nThey will freeze your work until you pay them bribes or pay huge gifts to their sons or daughters weddings", "10 counters, only one or two open. 9am punch in, went for 2 hour long teh tarik session. 12pm go out to pick up kids from school, come back 3pm. 4.30pm already start the car to go back home. Add in tons of red tape, and our bloated gomen sector can never get any shit done", "Which along with all the areas op mentioned above is far easier to implement, regulate and police with a smaller populace and small land mass.\nNot sure if it would be as successful at scale", "There are plenty of countries with a large population that have both: Australia, Japan, Germany, Canada, and South Korea\u2026\nMalaysia\u2019s civil service is notoriously large but inefficient, for no good reason", "Oh, im sure many know the reason, just that stating it here on reddit will get it downvoted to hell and reported", "Canada's civil service is trash and takes forever too.", "Well, says a lot about the rest of the world considering they were ranked #3 in the Civil Service Effectiveness Index by Oxford University\nThe main difference is these countries don\u2019t have an excessive amount of civil servants", "Depends on which area you're talking about because they rely on NGOs like feeding the poor, disabled and elderly which they are stretched thin and the selfish/entitled Singaporeans whom are from middle class or above still want to get free food from them...The entitled pricks have the audacity to request changing to more expensive brands of food (even requests for salmon) which are out of the budget of these selfless organizations.\nThere is also no budget to lift the poor out of poverty, nor any comprehensive plan for them. They are literally forgotten because I shit you not, the average Singaporean literally thinks the poor stay poor because of laziness, not the actual reality: there are no opportunities for the poor.\nSingapore also does not have unionship there, in fact about worse levels than Malaysia because Malaysia does have some form of unions (but still needs to be improved) so very easy to get toxic workplace in the guise of competitiveness. So far very little is done to solve the problems but toxicity is instead encouraged. Suicide is actually the leading cause of death in Singapore of age group 10 to 29 years old.\nThis is all goes back to how Singapore government does not allow criticism of them (authoritarian) so it shows when there oil scandals that took decades of corruption to finally uncover.\n________\nFor example Keppel oil company in a bribery case with Brazil's Petrobas, only revealed because of the US investigations.\nYou probably heard something that's it's 400million USD fine.\nBut what they don't tell you is that Keppel successfully received a 2.1 billion USD contract with the same Petrobas company. Wow their bribery to Petrobas totally profited them in the end.\nKeppel is actually run by Singapore's Prime Minister family, the Lee family.\n_______\nAnother oil scandal: The Hin Leong Scandal.\nSome documents were forged to siphon funds, which some 800 million could be found in Oon Kuin Lim's (owner) house.\nAnd it's clear, this has been going for decades.\nWere it not for the collapse of the recent oil prices, this case would have never been exposed because other countries are involved.\n________\nOr this other oil scandal:\nJuandi Pungot has been stealing gas from his former employer (Shell) since 2007.\nBut he has not been hiding it at all...\nHe frivolously spends on gambling in casino ships, investing in a Japanese restaurant (\"3 Amigos\" yes it's a weird name), designer watches, Mercedes Benz and some condominiums.\nAnd yet nobody caught him earlier when his usual salary is 6000 Singapore dollars.\nSo Juandi and his cohorts sold to are usually Greek and Vietnamese vessel ships. Since Juandi knew how Shell's internal systems work they could avoid some of the detection. While the rest they cover up with bribing the surveyors within Singapore's Shell.\nBut since the oil was missing in large quantities, Shell began figuring out something was suspicious starting in 2015...\nShell actually tried using experts from other offices with several investigations, but nothing came up (because of the surveyors) for a few years until they decided to use a global multidisciplinary team of Shell analysts to monitor tank movements. And so the unauthorized transfers were finally revealed.\nIt was in 1 August 2017 that Shell made a police report.\nJuandi heard about the investigation and resigned in December 2017 but he was still collecting the oil and selling it which lead to his arrest on 7 January 2018, as he was caught red-handed.\n______\nMannn I could keep talking about the weird Singapore businesses in 3rd world countries employing both child and slave labor for fracking, which in turn flooded their lands with salt water...making them unable to farm on those lands.\nAlso you might want to try checking about the different Singapore maps throughout the decades because they have been stealing sand (terrible environment stuff) to add onto Singapore.", "Singapore is definitely not scandal free but the crux of this post is whether Singapore is better than Malaysia.\nWe have a strong social service that only acts as a temporary solution to help the poor get back on their feet, and not to be relied on for free handouts. Even the underprivileged get heavily subsidised rental housing. Not saying the system is perfect but it's not as bad as you portray it to be. No opportunities? Underprivileged kids do get basically free education and additional tuition from volunteers, and education in Singapore is one of the great equalisers. Do well in school and you have a very high chance of succeeding and it's great for social mobility.", "WRONG,\n1st off let's ask, what is the standard of poverty in Singapore?\nThe Singapore government does NOT HAVE ANY STANDARD. Because of that loophole, it is harder to assess the poverty level. (Don't you just love the various ways of how an authoritarian government can cover their tracks?)\nNext, even with subsidized housing, you still need to pay it along with electricity/water, groceries, medical bills. (The water bill have the highest hikes of 18% extra in just 2024 and 2025 if anyone doesn't know)\nBut if someone loses their job because hiring a foreign worker is essentially cheaper (including a lot more easier mistreating foreign workers like slaves and making several foreign workers live in tiny rooms like heated sardine cans)\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/23/singapore-million-migrant-workers-suffer-as-covid-19-surges-back\nBut let's say they still have a job. How can they afford just the basics in life?\nIn fact, the struggling poor for their children are unable to escape child labor as the parents are force to use their own children to survive like working in hawker centres.\nSo the child will obviously have FAR LESS TIME studying out of poverty. How can you say that education is the \"great equalizer\" when they're still busy trying to survive?\nI haven't even included access to the internet, they can't afford laptops, smartphones or computers, how can you say that isn't a great disadvantage?\nLet's not forget not being able to access the internet alienates the poor children from the rest of the \"comfy lives\" children.\n(I haven't even addressed the concerns during the pandemic when remote learning was forced to be used, obviously that needs tech and the internet. Of course the poor were left behind)\nBack to medical bills, the disabled are extremely excluded from the healthcare system so anyone with a disability are essentially...unable to succeed in life...to put it kindly (but I'm actually raging about this). Forever to be poor, to say the least.\nI didn't include transportation fees, school supplies + textbooks, and yes lack of of food. (I already said NGOs in Singapore are already so stretched thin that they cannot reach every poor family).\nYou are unable to put yourself in the shoes of the poor as you had a comfy enough life that you cannot see how blessed you are versus how extremely stripped of life's necessities the poor are currently in.\nI suggest using 1 leaf cabbage soup and eating moldy bread as the only food per day for 2 weeks and see what happens. It's not just the diarrhea, it's the extreme hunger where you are more likely to do anything to fill your stomach and the 1st thing that is sacrificed are often education.", "Lmao, I studied in one of the poorer neighbourhoods in Singapore. I can assure you this much, Singapore actually has initiative to help its poor students. The poorer students actually used have to better meals then me during lunch time due to a scheme called FAS.They get pretty decent monthly allowance for food and transport. They also get groceries to their house during holiday month. Talking about transport, it\u2019s dirt for students here and the poorer students also get allowance. Without conversion a Malaysian student spent more on transport due to school van than a Singaporean does. Textbooks are all given for free to the poorer students or at least subsidised pricing for its people. And the textbook are given are new, far better than the torn ass shit I used to get in Malaysia.\nSingapore has many problem but not like Malaysia doesn\u2019t it have too. Last time i check 4 in 10 Malaysian Indian from underprivileged city dropped out of school. We don\u2019t even have anyways to get this students back to track at the very least sg give second chance with ITE. (Ain\u2019t a fan of their streaming system but it does do it job by providing worse performing students a second chance)\nSeems like u just wanna hate sg for the sake of it LMAO", "If that is so, according to your anecdotal evidence, why are there numerous NGOs in Singapore still unable to get food to every poor person in Singapore?\nAKA your anecdotal evidence is not the same situation for many others. Also at best you would only know of a few to dozens of people. In your lifetime.\nLet's ask the question. How many people did you think the FAS scheme covers?\nThe answer is less than 48,000 people per year and only around 300 are full subsidies. I consider this to be a travesty seeing as 26.6% live below average income (severe poverty standards as I said, are not standardized in Singapore) so that means about 1.56 million.\nIt's the pretense that Singapore is so squeaky clean that I have a severe distaste for. Especially seeing as the Singapore government made absolutely sure to suppress critics as reported in the Human Rights Watch reports.\nAt least for Malaysians, we don't pretend that corruption doesn't exist in the country.", "Any source for the 26.6%??", "https://beyondresearch.sg/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Youth-United-Impact-Study-Beyond-Social-Services.pdf\nAnd this figure is before the pandemic", "WRONG.\nJesus there\u2019s misinformation and there\u2019s cherry picking and you sir are doing both.\nSingapore has a per capita income benchmark below which short to medium term assistance is provided. This is better than our B40/M40/T20 classification for the purpose of directing aid to where it is needed.\nTheir former DPM gave a good response when a Western interviewer said why isn\u2019t Singapore doing more to help the needy via safety nets. His response was that they don\u2019t want a safety net, but a safety trampoline - so that people can bounce back up. ALL the aid given out comes with requirements such as attending job interviews, going for courses, etc. All of which is paid for and provided by either an NGO or a government funded social enterprise.\nALSO there is a government mandated minimum living space for foreign workers. In Singapore it is 4.5 sq metres. Yes, it\u2019s small. Guess what is Malaysia\u2019s mandated requirement? 3 sq metres.", "This coming from the guy who refused to read the \"illegal mining\" words in various articles I posted, in an earlier post of yours...now accuses me of cherry picking. What a hypocrite you are.\nI see not a single evidence to prove otherwise like minimum living space. Does it matter when regulatory bodies won't ever check? Just like how bribery and thievery went on for decades in the numerous oil scandals in Singapore, so too there are countless reports of 30 migrant workers living in the same room.\nhttps://theconversation.com/this-is-why-singapores-coronavirus-cases-are-growing-a-look-inside-the-dismal-living-conditions-of-migrant-workers-136959\nAs for the per capita income in Singapore, it still doesn't include low income standards. Why do you think researchers have a hard time assessing Singapore's poverty levels? None of what you said addressed the concerns of this loophole.\nAh yes which former DPM? Somehow the name escapes you?\nA whole lot of good the trampoline is when the trampoline has huge holes in the current Singapore society. You know what happens if you try to jump through that hole? You crashed onto the ground, broken. (26.6% of Singapore total citizens live below average income, we do not know the severe poverty levels because again, the Singapore government tries to project a nice image by using vagueness as a cover)\nJust like how Singapore healthcare hates the disabled. The disabled never chose that life but they're punished for it. God forbid if you get some severe disease that's permanent disability (or death) like sclerosis.", "You clearly have not been to Singapore lol.\nI have not seen a child work at the hawker centre.\nhttps://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-all-secondary-school-students-to-have-personal-digital-devices-by-2028-200\nhttps://mothership.sg/2023/02/eligible-low-income-spore-households-can-get-broadband-at-as-low-as-s5-month/\nPeople who are disabled have CareShield Life to support them as well, on top of additional help from charitable organisations.\nBtw, our charities are heavily funded by the govt. Their balance sheets rival that of SMEs and they\u2019re all available in the public domain. And their funds are mostly generously deployed.", "I do not accept this anecdotal evidence. You are 1 person, how can you claim you visited all the hawker centres 24/7? Hence impossible\nhttps://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/task-force-education-helping-disadvantaged-kids-and-where-start-917221\nI rely on people who work with disadvantaged kids as my evidence.\nFor your 1st article, if you haven't noticed that's in 2028 which addresses future kids but not the kids today. Those poor kids would be out of the range. Also the title is very misleading, it's only about 200 Singapore dollars which is not enough to cover (about nearly 1000 to 1500 Singapore dollars today, just Chromebook alone) nor does it address monthly internet expenses.\nNevermind in the article, the MPs literally said they must not encourage laziness. Wow every where in Singapore, the poor are literally blamed for failed Singapore systems.\nYour 2nd article, states ONLY 60,000 FAMILIES. Do you know how many below the average income families are there in Singapore? About 1.56 million people.\n60,000 families is a huge failure if you ask me. If that's considered good civil service, I have a bridge to sell you...", "Im not saying our social service is perfect, and not going to address all the points you\u2019ve taken out of context. But you can come to Singapore and ask any of the underprivileged you\u2019re painting out to be worse than they are, whether or not they prefer to be \u201cpoor\u201d in Singapore or \u201cpoor\u201d in Malaysia. Since that is the crux of OP\u2019s thread.\nSingapore is not perfect, but it\u2019s not the hellscape you are trying to paint it to be.\nEdit: you can reply too but I will stop engaging with you as it\u2019s a waste of time. Smarter Redditors will judge for themselves while those that choose to accept the picture you\u2019ve painted, well, they\u2019re not worth my time. Peace \u270c\ufe0f", "The answer we didn't know to ask for, but needed. Naively reductive black and white statements like the one from OP makes me sick in my stomach.", "This is very interesting, do you mind sharing the source for child/slave labour for fracking? I'm curious about this", "https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/singapore/7221987/Singapore-accused-of-launching-Sand-Wars.html\nThis was back in before this 2010 article\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN20R0C0/\nThen they move to other countries like Myanmar but pretty much the same fracking of stealing sand, flooding the lands of seawater (2020 article)\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/myanmar-youth-labour-children-school-idINKCN0WU184\nChild Labor in Myanmar, includes working in mines\nLike this article from United Nations\nhttps://news.un.org/en/story/2021/01/1082102\nhttps://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/584563/singapore-cambodia/\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRY_aYmfFo\nCambodia lands stolen, video by The Atlantic in 2019 (linked in the article above)\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN20702X/\nCambodia children used in construction labor, building bricks used in construction projects, you know using the sand.\nIf you notice, the countries targeted here have child labour are still happening due to poverty and corruption without inspections.\nhttps://media.business-humanrights.org/media/documents/files/documents/Oil_and_Gas_Scoping_Paper_19012015.pdf\nPage 9 , UNICEF article under Employment explains that children are often employed by 3rd party brokers, many whom are not regulated.\nOh and Indonesia actually recently lifted their sand ban so it's back to environmental destruction for them, also another country with children working in harsh conditions.\nhttps://thediplomat.com/2023/06/why-the-un-should-regulate-singapores-dangerous-sand-imports/\nAh I almost forgot,\nhttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/children-born-near-fracking-sites-have-an-increased-risk-for-leukemia-180980641/\nChildren health at risk being near fracking sites that previous articles already mention, are on their families' lands.\nAlso sand is a finite resource, it's actually like triangular shape pebble so it can catch the other materials in concrete mix. Sand from the desert cannot be used as it it's very round and smooth.", "Singapore didn\u2019t steal sand/land. They bought it from SUPPOSEDLY legitimate brokers. What those brokers did is beyond Singapore\u2019s purview. Eg, they bought sand from Batam from an Indonesian government licensed entity. The entity in turn, through corruption and such, dug up sand from places they were not supposed to and passed them to Singapore. This happened in Cambodia too. What are they supposed to do? Go to the local government to verify? They did. Impose their own check on another country\u2019s policies and enforcement? They can\u2019t. The issue of selling sand SHOULD be overseen by a third party eg UN for countries where corruption is rampant.", "https://www.smh.com.au/world/singapore-accused-of-stealing-beaches-20100213-nyd8.html\nhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/singapore/7221987/Singapore-accused-of-launching-Sand-Wars.html\nhttps://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/sand-mining-construction-black-market-gangs-a7097911.html\nWhat are those then?\nOh you mean like the fracking on Myanmar lands that wrought environmental destruction didn't happen?\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN20R0C0/\nCan't forget there are little to no compensation for those farmers.\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-cambodia-landrights-environment-idUSKBN12Y224/\nIllegal mining sand\nOr the part that many countries in Asia banned Singapore from taking any more sand? Because Singapore dares to take too much hence why they got into illegal mining.\nYour government just doesn't want to take any responsibility because stealing sand BENEFITS them. Don't make excuses after excuses when several environmental organizations around the world recognize the horrendous impact Singapore has done to many countries.\nEspecially seeing as the Singapore government makes sure to harass any critics\nhttps://www.hrw.org/news/2017/12/13/singapore-laws-chill-free-speech-assembly", "I think you need to take a lesson in comprehension.\nNowhere in those articles said Singapore directly stole the land. Let me list it out clearly:\nYou have a buyer of sand. This buyer buys from a broker. That broker sources for sand. The buyer trusts that the broker is legit because it has all the paperwork. Broker does illegal things and sells the sand as \u201cgood\u201d.\nIt\u2019s like you are a buyer of shampoo from a company that you trust ie Unilever. Unilever bought materials from trusted brokers. Broker sourced palm oil from a plantation that utilized child labour. You are responsible for child labour. \ud83e\udd2f\nYou have to understand that one sacred cow for Singapore is rule of law. But I guess it\u2019s hard to when we live in a country that doesn\u2019t have it.", "Wow you must be intentionally not reading ILLEGAL MINING OF SAND especially in the 3rd article.\nNot my problem you purposely pick and choose what to see according to your bias.\nSpeaking of Unilever, you seem to think that \"legitimate companies\" can do no wrong.\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8072511/\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/business/unilever-jj-skin-care-lightening.html\nUnilever puts skin whitening and bleaching chemicals\nOr back in 2006, mercury exposure to factory workers in India\nhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/econostats/2017/03/15/unilever-and-the-failure-of-corporate-social-responsibility/?sh=4c549fc2498d\nOr their failure to address so many countless sexual harassment among employees throughout the years. They never seem to learn any lesson. A staple in many corporations.", "I also want to address 1 more thing,\nThe human and civil rights of people are extremely lacking in these 3rd world countries.\nHaving brokers does not mean the industries are regulated as stated here in this UNICEF article page 9 under Employment\nhttps://media.business-humanrights.org/media/documents/files/documents/Oil_and_Gas_Scoping_Paper_19012015.pdf\nChildren are used, and Cambodia do use children in making bricks for construction projects like Singapore's\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN20702X/\nBrokers also do not ensure the lands are not stolen from the owners nor does the fracking done carefully without flooding farmlands\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN20R0C0/\nWhich the fracking not only destroys environments and farms but also the health of the nearby people.\nhttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/children-born-near-fracking-sites-have-an-increased-risk-for-leukemia-180980641/\nWhy should 3rd world country citizens be sacrificed to make a pretty concrete jungle dystopia in Singapore or making Singapore lands bigger?\nNone of them asked for their lives to be uprooted into severe poverty and losing everything.", "Did Singapore deny you a visa or something? Edit:\nWhy don't you also list all the equivalent cases in Malaysia? That way, we can compare. Now it's just you trashing around, and even including false accussation like child labour.", "You said false accusations and yet why did Singapore target poor 3rd world countries with barely any worker unions and lacking severely in child rights?\nObviously to take advantage of the poor people and corrupt governments. What else?\nHow terribly lacking in imagination if you think this is over some personal grudge that you think must have happened...without any evidence.\nNay, this is the result of reading human rights, environmental destruction, climate change, financial fraud, the global sand wars. Singapore is not the only guilty country, Dubai is also another guilty country which their man-made islands have failed to fill the homes because obviously transporting feces from the islands, is not a stellar system) and knowing how extremely finite sand used in construction. We're going to run out in our generation about 10 years+ (that's a generous estimation based on old calculation before considering how much sand usage have severely increased in the last few years).\nBut I know you are the result of the conditioning in Singapore which their government made extremely sure to harass and suppress any critics.\nAs for Malaysia, oh man so many countless topics but Malaysia doesn't use child slave labor in other countries. Oh you know...we don't steal sand from marginalized people. I will say Malaysia needs to get back into banning Singapore from gaining anymore of our sand. The previous (x 2) corrupt administration decided to open the damn floodgates for that, and I. will. never. forget. that.\nI can even tell you the previous Minister of Environment (the result of the backdoor coup in 2020) didn't even have any science background but only religious studies and said chopping down the trees is good for the environment...I never want to go back to those times.\nBut anyway back to the topic at hand, the OP praised Singapore but he only saw the pretty concrete jungle. I just posted that the reality in Singapore is more like a capitalist nightmare with corruption. Singapore government just hides it better than Malaysia, lol.", "Thank you so much for this, I was quite unaware of these issues! Genuinely appreciate it!!! \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffb\ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffb\ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffb", "we did have stable govt,for half century", "Thank you PAP representative."], ["Singaporean here. I feel that malaysia has us beaten in terms of culture while Singapore focuses on making things move efficiently. CNY, hari Raya and deepavali just feels different in Malaysia. In Singapore, it's just probably a change of decoration in the malls and such but in Malaysia, our neighbours invites us to come celebrate with them and enjoy the festival with them. Fireworks marks each celebration with a loud bloom (bye bye good night's rest) and our table will always be served with unique food from each festival.\nBut walking in Malaysia is really hard. What I thought was15 minutes walk from my wife's house to TREC ended up me being stuck at a roundabout with me playing frogger in real life. Safety isn't an issue in both countries as long as you are street smart. Though seeing a security guard in a mall with a big ass shotgun is always a sight to behold. One thing I'm always curious about is how maintenance for public facilities such as escalators is being handled. It can be under maintenance for a few months and the company in charge of it is strangely a clothing company.", "playing frogger in real life\n\ud83d\ude02 exactly how I feel, everything is designed for cars there", "Don't forget bus stops where no bus service actually passes through :D", "Or LRT stop that are just at the side of a highway", "Yep, overly designed LRT/MRT stations that drop you off to the middle of nowhere \ud83d\ude4c\ud83c\udffc", "The bus service is active. Just that the driver is not disciplined to follow the schedule", "That's a nice way to put it. I've always considered it as a lack of design and thought.", "I\u2019ve just visited KL and crossing the road was terrifying. I think it only gave us 15 seconds for a 6 lane road. We started by walking and ended up in a mad sprint, knowing what would happen if we didn\u2019t make it!", "focuses on making things move efficiently.\nEfficiency and maximizing logistics is a cultural win. It's not sexy, but any German would say it's an extremely important cultural trait.", "Ah yes. German. Even in WW2 their tank has to be serialized and the allied use that to gauge how many tanks they have LMAO", "There\u2019s pros and cons to preserving culture.\nSingapore eroded their culture, especially the minorities (through english language education and housing ethnic quota for example etc) so their citizens can unite as a single identity that is Singaporean. Much like Thailand and Indonesia.\nWhile for Malaysia each ethnic groups fought hard to preserve their culture. The festivities and our racial harmony looks great from the outside but in actually Malaysia is has a lot of race based issue.\nThere\u2019s no perfect recipe.", "to be honest i'd rather be in the most uncultured country and traded it with half the level of corruption and racial shit we have here", "Monkey Paw wish granted. You find yourself a peasant in North Korea, Corruption is double what we have but hey no racial shit.", "I can tell you with certainty that a lack of practice in cultural values would give rise to corruption. And any uncultured swine would still pile shit on you, regardless of race, language, creed, and religion.", "So like\u2026 CCP? But double the corruption however lesser racial shit?", "They have more racial shit than us on a daily basis it's just not against their own people.", "why? Go move to Bangladesh then.", "hi, like mahathir said, there will be no race is all masuk malay, all bumiputra. ezpz.", "I think the shotgun is only for deterrence.. they'll probably never have to use it \ud83d\ude02", "CNY does feel a lot less festive in Singapore without the fireworks!", "A small sacrifice. Rather have no fireworks than a district on fire and lives lost.", "\" But walking in Malaysia is really hard. \"\nOne of the biggest things i hate about KL compared to Singapore.\nI wish our cities are walkable"], ["As a Singaporean kid who frequents Malaysia...would say yes and no\nSg is better for studying and working...but life is hectic af. Everyday is just work/study, sleep then repeat\nLife in malaysia from what I see is much more chill on the other hand. I think the ideal plan is to earn $$$ in sg, live life in malaysia", "bro Malaysia also everyday work and sleep, pretty sure same for most countries everywhere unless u loaded", "SG also has better purchasing power, can use the iPhone index for that\nBase iPhone 15 128GB costs RM4049/ SGD1299 If you were to save RM100/SGD100 of your monthly salary (Assuming earning same number diff currency) you can get an iPhone way faster in Singapore.\nThe only issue is rental in Singapore that's very ludicrous, at least in Malaysia got option to live further out.", "live further out.\nBecause in Malaysia you need to get a car unless you live right beside your workplace. Public transportation in Malaysia is just sad to watch.", "And then you keep paying for the car. Service, minyak, roadtax, all sorts of things.", "Surely a better way to do the \"Iphone index\" would be the cost of iphone as a percentage of the average salary?", "It depends, because the average salary for SG is definitely gonna be higher due to the country being so small and being an international financial hub\nHence I just used a static number, because it's easier to see the differences I guess as I'm no economist haha", "Phone is just a phone. I don't view having an iPhone is a symbol of rich or wealthy.", "I don't use iPhone nor want one, I'm just using it as an example of purchasing power disparity between countries\nI can use PCs or laptops or TVs as examples too", "iPhone is priced according to purchasing power of each country. I think it is still a pricey item regardless of selling in Singapore, Malaysia,or other countries.", "Not really, they ain\u2019t gonna sell iPhone much cheaper in Malaysia just because purchasing power in Malaysia is weak af. In fact the price difference of iPhone in SG/MY is actually quite close if you convert them to the same currency\niPhone is quite a good indicator for comparison since it\u2019s available worldwide, just like bigmac index", "If you use the proper iPhone index collated by Hype MY in 2022, how long does the average salaries person needed to work to buy the cheapest iPhone 14 pro\nMalaysia: 29.2 days\nSingapore: 7.6 days\nIt's a very big disparity, worst being Turkey and best being Switzerland\n<image>", "The cost of living in Singapore is very high too. I do agree that the average Malaysians don't earn that much. Again, I don't know your earning power. Your comparison is biased if you based on a small sample of low income earners. One can't afford doesn't mean other can't afford. I am sure there are many Malaysians can buy iPhone without saving for more than 29 days of their incomes. Apple has done a proper market research before they set up their pricing strategies. Perhaps they only target on upper middle and upper income class earners.", "It's not about earning much, but of purchasing power parity. This reflects the purchasing power of regular items in Singapore. The other popular index is the big Mac index which also corroborate the fact\n<image>\nWhat Singaporeans lose money on are on rents and utilities, when it comes to normal goods it's pretty cheap according to my SG friends. However this year's inflation may shake up lots of their budgets I'd reckon.\nI don't wanna drag this out, I'm not saying which country has it better. My point is pretty object, that Singapore's currency just has stronger purchasing power that's all.", "I have worked and lived in different countries such as the US, EU, Singapore, Australia, and part of Asia. I consider myself as an outlier since I received different remuneration packages. However, I found that cost of living is very similar if one earns and lives in the US compared the one earns and lives in Singapore or any country. In this aspect, it is not fair to compare the cost of living when we consider one who earns SGD or USD and spend their earnings in Malaysia. Nevertheless, I do find that Malaysian income growth is very slow compares to the cost of living. Buying an iPhone is not easy for average income earners in Malaysia.", "Ah i normally use a Mcd Double cheese burger meal to judge purchasing power.\nRoughly it's 8Sgd vs 19rm for the meal.", "Just don\u2019t be poor. Ez", "You\u2019re just a kid. Life is the same everywhere unless you\u2019re rich", "Depends on where you're living tbh. Kampung life is chill, but city life like KL is hectic AF.", "Saturday is a half day work in Malaysia.", "Do you think SG will be a mini Japan?", "The school part is more or less the same grind. Maybe the only plus is if your parents are middle class and can afford good enrichment class, you\u2019ll have a better chance of being among the top students due to there being less competition and many parents not being so kiasu.", "While a chill life is true if you live in more rural states such as the East Coast and East Malaysia, life in urban Malaysia especially KL is just as hectic as SG", "Yes as someone who's worked in sg between 2012-2017 about 4-5 months per year. I can atest to this.\nIt maybe fine if you've only known life in Sg since you were born but as a Malaysian who's worked there and has family there. It's very hectic.\nMy company's regional office is in Sg and I'd be station there a few times a year for exposure reasons and to conduct training.\nBiggest take away in terms of difference is quality of life but specifically in regards to time, energy and socialising. After a couple of weeks doing the Sg office life, the 745am commute in rush hour, the 9-5 job finishing on average about 7pm, the commute back and having to source dinner in a crowded CBD/neighborhood mall, it takes a toll on energy levels and starts to feel very robotic. I end the day at home about 9pm, eat dinner and straight to last min work emails or tv-bed time.\nAs opposed to KL office life (this of course is not the same for everyone) I can be home and settled by 7-8pm.\nAnd what I mean by energy levels is that 1-2 hours difference in ending a work day, you'd have more energy to spend time on yourself, family and friends."], ["Malaysian, Singapore PR based in Singapore.\nIn all honesty, Singapore is better in many ways but it\u2019s not for everyone.\nYou need to be pretty disciplined and resilient to actually enjoy Singapore.\nInfrastructure/Amenities/Public Transportation/Government services - by far one of the best I\u2019ve experienced (I\u2019ve also lived in Sydney, HK and Tokyo). Everything\u2019s so efficient and well thought out. You don\u2019t waste unnecessary time on redundant processes/forms/steps/dresscode which is the norm in Malaysia. The quality of service is sooooo good. Even the Polyclinics here are doing better than some of the private hospitals in Malaysia.\nCleanliness - SG wins hands down. Despite the large crowds everywhere, public parks, toilets and roads are always in pristine condition and well maintained. People are civic minded and they care for their country. You don\u2019t litter or vandalize for sports. I rarely see potholes or broken traffic lights here which is a norm in many locations around KV.\nEconomy - Stronger and a clear MNC favourite. 70% of our regional APAC roles are based in Singapore due to its favorable economic policies and availability of strong talent. The government is just smart smarts (albeit sometimes at the expense of their own locals) in attracting foreign investment/diversification of businesses). Naturally there\u2019s more opportunities and you\u2019ll make more money in Singapore.\nAll about winning - Not saying we don\u2019t see this pool of people in Malaysia (maybe more so in Klang Valley), Singaporeans are built with a \u2018cannot lose\u2019 mentality; restaurants are booked in advanced, the best schools are oversubscribed, they don\u2019t wait to do their taxes, kids are enrolled in 20 types of enrichment classes, everyone has multiple insurance policies - in short, you snooze you lose. Again, naturally, you are less likely to fk up in life and would be better poised for success if you grow up here. So it\u2019s good to raise your kids here (susah susah dahulu, senang kemudian).\nSafety - somehow related to the point above, lesser crimes in Singapore as people are built to know it\u2019s stupid to risk your future in prison for petty crimes. I don\u2019t feel unsafe walking in Singapore.\nWe are comfortable in Singapore.\nBut it\u2019s not for everyone.\nIf you are used to/prefers a more chillax lifestyle, a bigger home, Malaysia fares better in many ways.\nThere\u2019s simply less pressure to perform. It\u2019s OK not to send kids for extra classes It\u2019s OK to complete that task late It\u2019s OK to forget dinner reservations sometimes\nI grew up in KL, and I must say pods of KL (Damansara, Mont Kiara, Desapark city, parts of PJ and Subang Jaya) are starting to mirror Singapore,especially among the millennials/ Gen- Y (that are in their late 20\u2019s to mid 30\u2019s). Private everything, overtime work, intense competition, stronger emphasis on health, safety and education so Malaysians can somewhat experience a mini Singapore life in a way.\nAnd I echo one of the comments above, people are warmer in Malaysia as there is less focus on success but more so on relationships and culture building. People are more oblivious to what others (or the government) are doing - not sure if that\u2019s good or bad though.", "Malaysia is probably better if you\u2019re either a high performer bumi who can get a scholarship or above middle class in the main state capitals.\nIn SG it feels like you don\u2019t have to be very rich or have connections to raise children who have a real shot at life.", "Speaking of potholes, I remember riding along KJE and saw one. The next day, it was fixed. Good old Singaporean efficiency.", "If one doesn't have a partner, or a wife/husband, the mountain is much steeper these days, not like the early 2000s or 2010s.\nProperty is much more out of reach, just saving for DP would eat up 7-10 years of work life (S$300k for a S$1-1.5m) property. A HDB for singles is only within reach when one turns 35 and to save the 20% for that 2-3BR that's $500-600k.\nThe cost of rent as a % of income, especially for someone moving to SG to work, is also much higher than it used to be. Back in 2010-2020, rent was about 15% of my income, these days I hear the number is like 25%-35%. Condos that used to be 2.4k sgd now go for 4k.\nI think your answers about economy also depends on what sort of role you fit into SG. in SG, there is pretty much a two-tier economy. There's a high value roles that see good salaries, good progression, and then there's the mass market that's stuck in sub-10k shit jobs.\nIf one is in the wrong industry, life in SG is not going to be great. You'll be stuck in all fronts because you can't afford to get out of the rental game.", "Same goes to every developed nation. Competition is just going to get fiercer. But still, Singaporeans will be ahead compared to your neighbors and at the very least, you have options. If people can\u2019t make the cut in Singapore, it\u2019s easier for them to move to a slower pace country with that 200K savings they have than the other way round. Imagine moving across the border with RM650K in your pocket- you\u2019ll be in good hands. It\u2019s not that hard to get a corporate job in Malaysia as long as you\u2019re educated and have the right skills. This is coming from someone who started off in Malaysia (and moved over late - after kids). Whatever RM I brought over here feels like peanuts in Singapore.", "Tbf, most of msia flaws are issues of money. At my level of income, i would never turn to sg xD i'd be losing so much purchasing power xD", "Cleanliness - SG wins hands down. Despite the large crowds everywhere, public parks, toilets and roads are always in pristine condition and well maintained. People are civic minded and they care for their country. You don\u2019t litter or vandalize for sports. I rarely see potholes or broken traffic lights here which is a norm in many locations around KV.\nlolol....Civic minded??!?! lolol Singaporeans are the same as Malaysians la. We litter everywhere. The difference between the two countries is there is an army of cleaners that will clean Singaporeans' trash every day without fail.\nEven with expensive fines we still litter like nobody's business. Just have a walk in the early morning in any housing estate before the army of cleaners start their job. Trash everywhere.", "yeah, i used to stay in Toa Payoh for a few years. Wtf cleanliness is he talking about?\nwalk outside around midnight, trash and cockroaches everywhere.\nand comparing Malaysian kopitiam vs Singapore's hawker center (MY don't have SG-style hawker center so i'm taking the next closest approximation for comparison), just the table cleanliness itself is quite telling, SG one wipe table already but still very greasy/oily.", "We have foodcourts", "not the same thing.", "I don't think the fines are actually being enforced so vigorously, so probably it really just more cleaners."], ["I was a Malaysian, but am now Singaporean. It is commonly thought that the cost of living in Singapore is very high, but it is really the other way round. Even in Singapore as a student and a young working adult, I found that it is easier to save money in Singapore. The most expensive things in Singapore are housing and cars. Of course in Malaysia, most Malaysians get to live in landed property, and drive up the driveway, press the autogate remote control and park right next to the front door so that you literally walk 3 steps into the house, sheltered from the rain.\nBut if you earn and spend in SGD, I think the daily necessities are indeed more affordable than if you earn and spend MYR.\nFor instance, 1 litre of Dove body wash can be bought for just under SGD5 in Singapore (I buy mine from this chain called Venus which sells toiletries), versus MYR19 which I just checked on Shopee Malaysia. How much would a Malaysian need to earn to keep spending MYR19 for a simple bottle of body wash?!\nJust the other day, I had dinner with my mum at Dome in JB. Just two of us and the cost came up to almost RM140. We are not talking about fine dining, mind you. This was just a regular meal (some salmon with rice, pastry with soup, etc.) at a Dome outlet at a JB hospital after our medical appointment, not even a special occasion. How much would a Malaysian have to earn to keep spending MYR140 for a simple meal for two?! In Singapore, an equivalent meal at Dome would not cost more than SGD60. If I earn SGD, spending SGD60 for a two-pax dinner is not cheap, but still quite affordable.\nThe cost of living in Malaysia is really quite shocking for the average Malaysian. Part of the reason for this is the continuously depreciating MYR, making everything imported, and even those locally made, more expensive. Some statistics:\nJust looking at the USD/MYR trend:\nOn 2 Sep 1997: USD1 = MYR2.9415\nOn 1 Sep 2023: USD1 = MYR4.641\nA depreciation of 58% in 26 years.\nSource: Bank Negara Malaysia data\nThe slide is even worse compared to our neighbours. The MYR has depreciated 67% against the SGD, and 62% against the THB over the same 26-year period.\nIt would be interesting to compare the inflation rate (CPI) between Malaysia and Singapore excluding housing and cars. If someone has the analysis, please share.", "I agree. I find it trivial to save 10-50% of salary in SG, as compared to practically impossible in MY.\nAnd we haven't even considered stability of the currency and purchasing power\nInflation is horrific because MY get double damage from raw material inflation and currency depreciation against major currencies", "This is true. Those Malaysians who like to bash Singapore as being more expensive has never actually lived there. Singapore gets you more bang of your buck as compared to Malaysia.", "Why long text when using iphone price is sufficient haha", "Why give up Malaysia citizenship instead of just retaining at PR?", "Good question. There's nothing \"permanent\" about S'pore's PR. It is tagged to a \"re-entry permit\" that has to be renewed every five years with a supporting letter from the employer. I've setup family here. One fine day, I'm going to be no longer economically contributing, maybe infirm, dense or demented (haha!) and it would be time for the S'pore govt to say bye-bye, thanks, we aren't going to renew your re-entry permit, if I'm not a citizen.", "Hmmm i see your point. I was thinking along the line, if one day I\u2019m not financially contributing to the nation building I would be shunned by the SG government. In fact, when I\u2019m 40, people would rather hire younger people to work instead.\nThe amount of old people working in fast food and cleaner just makes me wonder what happened to them.\nThats why I would rather stay back as Malaysian and retire back here with the savings I have from SGD if I do happen to continue working in SG. by that time the money depreciate probably 1:5 and I will be lots richer? Haha who knows.\nAnyway my PR lapsing. I went back to Malaysia to work. Prefer my current life now.", "Yes your reasoning certainly makes a lot of sense if your family or extended family is in M'sia and you wish to retire in M'sia. Maybe a smaller town, not one of the big cities, will be able to stretch the money. Healthcare is super cheap for Malaysians too.\n1:5.... is not at all surprising.\nBut the political situation, racial mix over the years, and the difference in the birth rates among the races are things to think about. Rather sobering. You can see it if you crunch the population numbers from the Department of Statistics.", "Assuming that you\u2019re Chinese, how important is it for you that the Chinese community not dwindle in percentage in Malaysia? Lesser percentage of Chinese people would automatically less political power, obviously.", "Lower percentage definitely means less representation and less clout. Just see Anwar pussyfooting around the hypersensitive racial matter such that he dares not give positions to DAP even though they garner seats.", "While Malaysia as a whole has <2.1 birth rates, Malays are at 2.1. It is inevitable. The nons need to have more babies!", "It's actually much worse because Malaysians as a whole aren't producing enough babies to replace the older population.\nhttps://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/11/976580/malaysias-falling-birth-rate-will-have-repercussions-future-labour-force", "You mean the nons need to stop giving up their citizenship lol wonder whats the stat on that?", "Understandable. This is an excellent discussion. You have a good day", "Very interesting. From your perspective, why there is still so many Singaporeans shopping in MY if things are cheaper in SG? It is good to hear from you considering your background.", "Some things are cheaper for someone earning SGD to buy in Malaysia after converting at SGD1 = MYR3.5.\nSay dinner for two pax at Dome, which would cost me SGD60 in Dome Singapore. I'd happily spend MYR140 at Dome JB because MYR140 works out to be only SGD40, so I save SGD20. That's why the Causeway is the busiest land crossing in the world \ud83d\ude02 More than 300,000 people cross the Causeway every single day, in each direction.\nThat's also why prices in JB are not cheap... thanks to S'pore-imported inflation. But that's also why when the borders were completely shut because of Covid, JB became a ghost town, the Johor economy was almost crippled and many businesses folded and bank loans defaulted.", "complain cost of living.\nSabun Dove.\nMakan Dome.\nLOL", "Jadi nak compare apa?", "Senang cerita. Singapura is a high income country and Malaysia, though I love it to bits, still belum boleh capai tahap tu even if we really tried. Sebab we shouldn't focus on the people in the urban area but in the kampung and small towns as well.\nNot everyone in Kampung needs or really want to eat at Dome, they will always go for cheaper solution while in Singapore you rarely get those options. And there's so much better option than dove for sabun in Malaysia and not everyone need to go to watson or guardian to get one.\nMalaysia got from high end family store macam aeon? or cold storage to something cheaper option macam econsave or nsk. But I can't say that about Singapore la sebab dah lama tak pergi.\nAll in all, Singapore is more organise. Nak jalan walking there lebih mudah, probably more stuff to buy.\nBut in Malaysia there's so much more to explore, especially the nature. The culture berbeza from negeri to negeri. The foods excellent. But I probably said this because I jarang berjalan to luar negara so I always thought we got the best of everything here.", "Thank you so much for the insight and factual analysis!", "Pretty much this. PR living and working in SG here. I think about it all the time when I go back to my hometown in Sarawak.", "I disagree slightly with this.\nOn principle you are right. But I feel Malaysia (Klang Valley) has more cost saving/low end options. I don't have any official data to back it up but as someone who's worked in both countries simultaneously. The everyday cost of living in Sg is harder to cost cut as opposed to Malaysia.\nJust simplified examples of the top of my head. Expensive rent? You could move to Sungai Buloh, Kajang and still commute to most places in the city and rental can get pretty low. In Sg moving to the outskirts like Jurong or Punggol nowadays is still very costly. Commute time to the center of the two cities are roughly the same. Every day items - replace the dove bodywash with a watson/guardian in-house brand and it's pretty cheap. And this logic applies to drinks, food etc i.e replace starbucks with Zus coffee, a decent road side warong near my place in kl can cost my family of 4 around 40rm for dinner versus singapore I think 25-28 sgd would be the lowest I can imagine but you'd have to go out of your way for that kind of pricing.\nPost covid- one thing that has struck me is certain items/services aren't cheaper in Sg anymore in terms of currency 1:1. My BIL's 24 hour HDB public parking has gone up to 25sgd from 16sgd (this was 2018). My point is for 25rm you can park all day at many places in KL. Took a number of grab rides from Celmenti to parts of Sg mainly Tanjong Pagar area for work and it'll cost 20-28 sgd for a 10-15min ride, an equivalent ride in KL regardless of peak hours will still be range of 13-25rm."], ["I think this is the clear divide of capitalism vs socialism, not saying Malaysia is not capitalist economy, but hear me out.\nWhen East Berlin was merged back into the West, 57% were nostalgic for their lifestyle back when they were under soviet rule. There were problems, but life was good there. They specifically missed social security, schooling system, career opportunities, life in general was slower paced and they could relax and not have to run the rat race.\nOf course, transitioning to a market system was great, a lot more material wealth, business, personal freedoms etc. but with capitalism there is pressure to perform and if you fail, you are relegated to B40 or poverty. I think there is tremendous stress in that area when living in Singapore.\nLiving in Malaysia things are generally slower, we have natural resources to help with our national wealth, the government has pretty much turned the govt sector into a welfare system, it gives time for us to relax and enjoy culture, life\u2019s smaller things. But it\u2019s just a really messed up system.\nIf only Malaysia was better managed like Norway, where money generated from petroleum extraction goes to investments that secures the future of its people. Too bad our politicians put us in the resource curse. Also, Kuala Lumpur as a city could take a several pointers from Singapore."], ["I find malaysians are very easily triggered online. In person, not so much so. In person, it turns into more of a debate, discounting all the extremist fools. Online, its all straight up rage, but often with alot of carefully researched facts."], ["My Malaysian friends want to move to Singapore, my Singaporean friends want to move to Malaysia", "Malaysians want to move to Singapore to work and then retire back in Malaysia. Singaporeans want to retire in Malaysia. Sama sama.", "The grass is always greener on the other side I guess...\ud83e\udd23"], ["I can\u2019t comment much, but lived in Singapore for a few months.\nIf you compare dollar to dollar value it\u2019s definitely more affordable to live in Singapore for basic necessities if you\u2019re not including getting a house or car.\nI saw somebody mention about singapore is all about work sleep repeat, it\u2019s the same in Malaysia unless it\u2019s holiday. But the holiday we get is different due to spending power, getting paid 5k SGD can easily spend on 4-5* hotel where as 5k in Malaysia we can only afford 2-3* hotel. Not to mention savings\nOther than that we don\u2019t even have community hubs. Which is something I adore a lot\nI feel safe jogging at 12am anywhere in Singapore."], ["Better is subjective.\nSingapore has a better economy and more stable government.\nMalaysia has better food, better standards of living (in terms of affordability), better sense of community and freedom.", "Im from sg, would love to retire in msia ngl", "Yeah my uncle who went to Singapore for work and is a very well paid professional there refuses to give up his Malaysian citizenship. Reason? He's planning to spend his retirement in Malaysia.", "that's the dream. You work in Singapore, but live in Malaysia (as in Johor). As a Johorean myself, I am looking forward for the RTS Link to be completed. Good for both countries.", "This might not be the case when you hit retirement age, given the current trajectory of Malaysian politics.\nBut yeah, thats my plan as well.", "Are you sure it is affordable for the Malaysians though? Take a teacher's salary for example. A teacher in Malaysia earns on average 2131 ringgit while a teacher in Singapore $4000. Currency aside, that is almost half difference. If you say a MCD meal in Singapore costs about $8 and Malaysia 15 ringgit, a Singaporean teacher can afford to buy 500 MCD MEALS a month compared to a Malaysian teacher 142 mcd meals. There are of course cheaper food options in Malaysia but in general, mega food chains in malls (4fingers, KFC, MCD etc.) do not price their menu according to the pay scale of locals but following the USD/cost of goods/etc.\nTherefore it is not as simple as slapping Malaysia with the \"affordable standard of living\" tag just because you as Singaporean see it as affordable. The salary scale to cost of consumer goods just do not match.", "Better local food maybe, not international food", "One of the wins for malaysians are the \u2728vibes\u2728 since we have large diversity of cultures, natural resources, and natural landscapes. But even with that the ministry of tourism is struggling hard to fight with neighbouring countries.", "Freedom? Like LGBT rights? Like inter-faith couples intending to marry? Like unmarried couples in public areas? Like being able to criticize the royal families? Like being able to leave Islam? Like the rights of non-Bumis?", "How is Malaysia more affordable?\nI went to a random coffee shop in Gelang patah, Char Siew rice was close to 10RM.\nI can get Char Siew rice at ABC market for $5 with add meat.\nEverything was close to 10RM at this coffee shop, how is it cheaper?", "I think the reason many people mistakenly believe this notion is because, when comparing the cost of living, they tend to convert the Singaporean prices in SGD to MYR.\nThis may make that notion technically true, but the problem with this is, Singapore\u2019s wages are way higher on average.\nJust check out this link to see how different our wages are:\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/nasikatok/s/QYVCjorLjt\nWhile Singapore\u2019s median salary stands at around SGD5.3k, KL\u2019s median salary stands at a lower MYR3.9k, so it would be way easier for the median salary Singaporean to buy something that costs $10 in Singapore compared to how it would be for a KL-ite to buy something that costs RM10 in KL", "Yes this is it and I didnt know on average Malaysia's salary is that much lower, I figured it would be roughly the same as Singapore.\nBut it is even worse than I thought...\nI cant even imagine buying SG uniform at 79.90RM with Malaysia's pay. Which is crazy...", "10RM = S$2.85\n2.85 is less than 5\nIt's certainly not cheaper relative to wages, if that's your point, but it is cheaper.", "Well unless you are going to retire a with a fortune that cannot be finished. Eventually, you will need RM salary. It be a foolish thought to not think of the inevitability.", "it's no use being cheaper when the purchasing power is lower when things are already \"cheaper\". so it's actually a much worse situation", "I get that. It's \"more affordable\" if your plan is to work in Singapore and retire in Malaysia, or if you're visiting Malaysia from Singapore. Singapore is much richer with much higher wages and while stuff is more expensive, stuff like hawker food is not that much more expensive, compared to the wage differences. That stuff is actually surprisingly cheap in Singapore, relatively, if you consider it's one of the richest countries in the world. But it is still more expensive in absolute terms.\nOther stuff, like housing or a car, Singapore can be much more.\nDespite this, Singaporeans are still better off. Even if you had the same percentage of your salary going to living essentials, the % you have left over to save for your retirement or whatever is going to be a larger number in Singapore, simply as the starting number is so much larger. So while Singapore is \"expensive\", expensive with higher wages is still better. You also have more disposable income before retirement, if you visit Malaysia for a holiday.\nAnd some stuff, like electronics, computers, phones, etc.- they are basically the same price everywhere, so there's no cost advantage there to Malaysia. May even be a little cheaper in Singapore, and if you're flying out you can get the VAT back.\nThen, people working in Singapore (whether Singaporean or Malaysian) have the option of retiring to Malaysia when they are done working, bringing their accumulated savings/pension- which will go further in Malaysia, as it is \"more affordable\". Fewer people work in Malaysia and retire in Singapore.\nIt's just if the question is, which is more money, 10RM or S$5, S$5 is more money.", "More affordable than Singapore. At least for housing. I can't comment on food because I don't buy food in Singapore.", "Well it would depends on whether you worship landed or not. Since every form of housing has their pros and cons which eventually evens out and nothing is better than the other even when price is included."], ["Malaysian living and working in SG here, the grass is always greener on the other side. Not always a problem of scale, but one of policy and governance and planning."], ["One has to admit that Singapore's economy, infrastructure, education, transportation,\nhealthcare, sanitation, political stability is superior\nThis is fact, and it always makes Malaysian trigger about this.\nway more expensive to live in Singapore\nDepending on how you look at it, Singapore is a lot smaller country, thus it's no wonder that the land is scarcity.\nOther than the food, I don't really see how Malaysia fares well against Singapore\nOnly superior on Hygiene but not taste yet but that is what they prefer and cultured.", "I disagree on hygiene. Hygiene in public spaces are well maintained due to enforcement and maintenance by staff. But go to a majority of the HDB and you\u2019ll see that the average person there are stuck in the third-country mentality when it comes to hygiene. I\u2019ve visited multiple HDBs and there\u2019s so much shit in their corridors and garbage is not properly disposed off. I was surprised this was a thing there.", "Malaysia has all that AND no enforcement and maintenance by staff.", "Teh Tarik Maintenance Team :29091:"], ["Angmoh here. I live in Singapore but have visited KL & Georgetown, as well as JB, Langkawi & Tioman. This is only my view \ud83d\ude0a\nFor finance: big ticket items are more affordable in Malaysia, but daily necessities are probably a huge expense given local wages\nFor nightlife: both kind of suck \ud83d\ude05 SG is because of all the strict regulations around it that means nightlife venues are usually managed by large operators with a very bland/safe offering (or the underworld stuff, pick your poison); Malaysia its because a large % of the population is muslim so the offering is quite limited relative to the size of the cities/country (and not much cheaper than in more fun countries)\nFor culture: Singapore is a weekend trip. Malaysia has more to offer, although not THAT much more: there are only like 2-3 old(ish) cities in the whose country, since the Malays traditionally did not build cities, and what there is could use some freshening up.\nFor nature: hands down, Malaysia has Singapore beat, it's not even a fair contest. They have hills, mountains, jungles, beaches. I will say though: Langkawi nature is not being protected adequately, and many beaches are not cleaned in Malaysia. People keep throwing trash everywhere! This doesn't seem to happen as much in Thailand or Vietnam \ud83e\udd14 still, better than a beach with a view of an oil refinery in Singapore \ud83d\ude05 and some of the beaches in Malaysia (not the ones close to an airport) are absolutely fantastic.\nFor convenience: Singapore is better for walking/admin/legal system/business. Malaysia is better for getting a cheap grab, and going off into nature.\nAt the end of the day, I think Singapore is better if you want to make something of yourself, and Malaysia is better if you're already 1st world rich. I think a lot of the nature/nightlife/culture issues with both countries can be solved by travelling abroad for short trips, and its easier to do that of you're working in Singapore. But I still plan to learn Bahasa \ud83d\ude0a And who knows what Malaysia will look like in 10 years!", "Very nice comment, I tend to agree with most of what you said.\nI'm someone from Indonesia, have lived and worked in Singapore for several years and one of your remark is true; if you are someone who have generational wealth, living in places like Malaysia and Indonesia is a breeze. This is a very important point that many people tend to miss out, especially when they've never really lived in Singapore for quite sometime and see how life is from the inside.\nLife for the less fortunate on the other hand, is quite difficult in those places because of lack of good public education (without breaking the bank), poor infrastructure (requiring one to afford cars or motorbikes to commute), relatively low wages for the same type of work, corrupt law enforcers, corrupt justice system, corrupt government who don't manage facilities properly, etc among many other reasons. Singaporeans often do not realize how lucky they're having it this way because of lack of perspective how bad things are outside SG when everything is concerned.\nAlso, climbing up the corporate ladder is almost impossible without the right connection because meritocracy in Indonesia/Malaysia is still rather foreign concept. Most of the institutions both public and private tend to resort to mix of cronyism and nepotism while picking candidates and deciding who gets promotion.\nIn Singapore, while some of these issues do exist, you can technically still work your way up by pure hard work and ingenuity. In Singapore, people see you as an individual whose worth is recognized by the quality of your craft and not by skin color or religion. The contrast is quite significant in neighboring Malaysia/Indonesia. Say, if you're not of indigenous ethnic or Muslim, there are some positions within the society that you simply cannot access, or have difficulty getting into because of your religion or skin color.\nTrue, Singapore is small and there's really not much to see beyond the small island. But this could easily be rectified by having overseas holiday to many of SG's neighbors, so you can enjoy the views and the beautiful nature without having to deal with all the things that made SG's neighbors a hell to live with. Strong currency of SG also definitely helps in opening up holiday options into other less developed nations. Can't say the same if you're someone from Indonesia or Malaysia!", "Singapore is a travel hub for a reason, and many Singaporeans love to travel, even if it's nearby.", "People don\u2019t throw trash everywhere in Vietnam? As someone who lives in Vietnam I find that statement terribly false.\nAgree with everything else you said though, good points.", "I only went beaching in DaNang, which was alright overall", "Understandable. The main beaches near the resorts are alright. Everywhere else isn\u2019t."], ["Ex-malaysian converted to Singaporean here. Been working in Sg for close to two decades and holding Sg PR until 2021. Was planning to go back Malaysia once I hit retirement age but alas, whenever I see our govt, I kinda give up on the stability and future of Malaysia \ud83d\ude22\nPlus when my kids are born in Sg, all took Sg citizenship and I'm the last one to convert when I decided that Sg culture will be better suit my kids'future.\nI still hold Malaysia dearly in my heart as all my relatives are still in Malaysia but unless Malaysia will have a strong govt without any favouritism and corruption, Sg will be better than Malaysia imo"], ["9/10 of my Malaysians who went to Singapore for work no longer want to return to Msia", "Most malaysians will take PR but never citizenship. Best of both worlds. As a singaporean I've seen too many of this already.", "Not true especially among the younger Malaysians. Many are converting considering the balance of pros and cons have been tilting steadily in SG\u2019s favour in recent years", "But still buy Malaysian properties", "Juuuuuuuuuust in case. Singapore may not be good forever.", "and refuse to give up citizenship", "But will they retire there or come back ?"], ["Often, Malaysians are triggered when they hear Singapore is better than Malaysia.\nMalaysians aren't the only neighbor that could get triggered by such remark. Many people in neighboring Indonesia could also feel the same way about it.\nThe thing is, Singapore is a highly-optimized country that maximized whatever it has to the best it can be. It succeeds in many things that really counts, especially within standards of modern society: education, infrastructure, safety, political stability, technological advancement etc.\nThe country as a whole definitely isn't paradise, but considering how most of its neighbors have always been plagued by inefficient and corrupt government, Singapore is definitely a miracle by its own rights, and way ahead of everyone else in SE Asia when it comes to achieving so much with so little basic resources."], ["I agree OP. That is why so many Malaysians work and study in SG. Some even become SG citizens in the end. The strong SGD is a major plus too.\nIn addition :\nChangi > KLIA 1(Can't believe that the KLIA internal train is out of service for so long !)\nSQ > MH\nLess racial tensions in SG compared to Malaysia (Plus the Malays in SG seem to be less obsessed about race and religion compared to their Malay counterparts in Malaysia)\nInfrastructure maintenance is way better in SG compared to Malaysia.\nFoodwise, this is a very subjective matter. Personally i don't mind the food in SG. However, i can't get over the fact that in SG, they cover their grilled stingray in sambal sauce, and i prefer the Klang version of BKT lol.\nAnd KL shopping malls in general are more beautiful and exciting than those in SG.", "However, i can't get over the fact that in SG, they cover their grilled stingray in sambal sauce\nIs that a uniquely SG thing? I went to Batu Pahat and they also covered their stingray with sambal.", "Must be influenced by SG\ud83e\udd23"], ["It's a good, stable place, but I don't like the frenetic lifestyle. Malaysia is a little slower and that's just the way I like it.", "A little slower from all the Klang Valley jam during rush hour.", "\u201cJust one more lane bro trust me bro\u201d", "\"Just one more national car bro trust me bro.\"", "True, i went back to my grandparents hometown in sarawak and found it very weird yall walk so slow", "Yeah I am used to walk super fast in SG. Even now I\u2019m still waking fast lol.\nP/s: do you know Hong Kong people walk even faster than SG?", "At some point they\u2019re gonna out-evolve the cheetahs and walk at 60 km/h", "hey stop promotin perlis"], ["IMO one can say that Singapore's political stability is bought at the cost of political stagnation. Now I am not saying that Malaysia is the premier example of how to treat political dissenters and differing opinion but right now we are experiancing a kind of political change that is unheard of in Singapore where one party had ruled since it's inception, like for once political parties are no longer assured of a safety deposit box vote.\nLegally we are also moving in baby steps towards the right direction, recently we revoked the mandatory death sentence for drug offences.\nAlso I would put that at least outside of KL, we don't face the kind of rat race mentality and hustle Singaporeans face on a daily basis."], ["As a Malaysian who just moved to Singapore and working in Singapore. You really have to see it to believe it. By day 3, I already fell in love with the place and told myself no matter what, I must continue to stay in SG. Heck, I dare say even the food is actually quite good here."], ["Facts are bitter. Malaysians on the whole are still a bunch of raging incels, that give so much of leeway to politicians but go mental when anyone says anything about Malaysia. It\u2019s the inferiority complex. Why do you think we rank so high in cyber bullying? I\u2019m Malaysian btw.", "Malaysian suka tegur, jaga tepi Kain orang. But never point fingers on himself.\nBut fucking hell, I still love Malaysia.", "Only the nasi lemak keeps me here. And roti canai", "R/sg everyday got incel post about why so hard to find gf fuck women blablabla, i think it's incel land there too.", "But Atleast they got money to find women to fck.\nHere duit takde, duk ramai2 luar klcc dan pavilion, sbb xde duit nak masuk beli barang tapi nak usha bini org, pastu overcompensate, guna kapchai buat superman utk impress minah.\nPastu lahir anak mcm anak tikus, kondom terlalu mahal, pastu pukul bini bina sbb mintak nafkah beli susu dan pampers.", "they complain cannot find gf because gold diggers eyeing their 3k or 4.8k pay. at least the guys here at 1.5k salary also seems to be pulling chicks lol", "Janji Honda.. even if 20 year old kapchai and the speedometer doesn\u2019t work", "wthell,even wif geylang,incel not cured?", "Too incel to pay for sex. They think they should be paid for giving women their seed", "You sound offended, truth hurts or something?", "i'm not even a dude. incels are everywhere, it's not exclusive to malaysia. no need to saintify singaporean men."], ["As a Singaporean, I don\u2019t think I could live in a non secular country where religion is so pervasive. Just read about a Malay looking Chinese guy getting harrasssd for eating during Ramadan. Sounds damn backwards.", "A lot of people don\u2019t realise that Malaysia is actually a secular state, Islam just gets recognised as the official religion.\nBTW as a non Muslim KLite, it\u2019s relatively safe to do most of what you want so as long as you don\u2019t interfere, be flashy or be a busybody towards the Muslims. And that comment about the guy being harassed doesn\u2019t happen that often in urban areas.", "This is the consequences of living of a bubble. Travel a bit lol"], ["Singapore is better in almost every aspect be it economy,human capital,education,healthcare compared to Malaysia.That\u2019s not my opinion but it\u2019s a fact.There\u2019s no point to be bitter about it.Now that that\u2019s out of the way,as Malaysian we should try to emulate their success as both countries share more similarities and would benefit one another.", "Nay on healthcare. Speaking from own experience and my spouse who is a HCW.\nMalaysia has universal healthcare for RM1, SG doesn't.", "1RM healthcare but what about the wait time?", "Everyone talks about wait time for public health in Malaysia like the hospitals are waiting for to die before they treat you.\nThe honest truth is that if the wait time is long, you probably can wait it out. Cause youve been triaged and can wait. This is the same with public healthcare around the world. If you rock up to a GH with a heart attack, I guarantee you wouldn't be waiting for a second.\nAnd you will still pay RM1.\nIf you want to skip queue to fix a non urgent life threatening issue, can go private. Where if there is a whole bunch of people, you still gotta wait, maybe queue shorter or none", "Malaysian Chinese working in Singapore here. Despite the rm1 healthcare we got in Malaysia, it\u2019s very common to read fund raising pleas for patients who can\u2019t pay for medical bills in Chinese newspaper.\nI don\u2019t see that in Singapore (except foreigners or patients who want to try unapproved drugs) though.", "SG is a lot better at support programmes and funding for needy. You have agencies like AIC and HPB, etc. plus they do a better job overall at publicity and awareness.", "Others have already replied but you'd be waiting too in SG public healthcare.", "Malaysia has universal healthcare but the quality of it compared to Singapore is a joke. There's a reason why Malaysian politicians and T20 come to Singapore for healthcare. You pay what you get. Healthcare is also highly subsidized for citizens there via cost-sharing.", "Yeah this. Helping a Singaporean friend to get healthcare in Malaysia is an eye opening experience , in terms of affordability I didn\u2019t even realise that it\u2019s damn unaffordable if I go there", "Facts indeed. Emulating their success does much more wonders than just bickering them.", "It's pretty absurd to compare two countries of such disparate size.\nOf course Singapore is better. Pretty much in the same way every city-state is better than its bigger neighbor. Monaco, The Vatican, San Marino, and to some extent Montenegro, Qatar are all doing great compared to their country-sized neighbors.\nIt would be stupid to be \"bitter at facts\"but it would be almost equally stupid to fawn at Singapore without understanding the reasons behind their success. A strong culture of work (\"Made in Singapore\", used to be a thing in industry), a very present european culture of tertiary schooling post-decolonization (anecdotally, Mahathir studied medicine in SG), and all of this in a self-contained tiny package where limited infrastructures spending could go a long way for cheap (estimates go that Singapore has roughly 10,000 km of road while Malaysia has 290,000km, yet the coverage is better in Singapore).\nAdd to that the fortune to be on the way between China and the rest of the world and you had the perfect storm of people working hard at seizing a great opportunity.\nIn exchange for this, it's an ultra competitive and nigh unaffordable place with a climbing suicide rate and one of the lowest self-reported work or relationship happiness in the world.\nChoices had to be made."], ["If you are rich, there is more freedom and variety in Malaysia, and the better access you have to health care, infrastructure etc.\nAs someone who stayed there for quite a while, on paper Singapore is better, but whether you can emigrate there and have a better, more enjoyable life is a different matter. I did not enjoy my time there."], ["Honestly if we just take out the normalized racism, corruption and maybe currency strength, Malaysia would be somewhat comparable.", "without those mentioned above, Malaysia is a paradise on earth. With good food, free from natural disaster (Flood can be mitigated), plenty of land, nice mountains, seaside and islands. What could you ask more."], ["From my last visit there, their infrastructure, public transport, housing issues and town planning are way ahead of ours. Even their policies related to these issues are all streamlined."], ["It's more developed, full stop."], ["Singapore has a stable government and strong leadership. I am not sure if they have zero corruption but certainly Malaysia has corruptions.", "Construction industry in SG follows the law very strictly. No kawtim culture here, or belanja makan practice. Unlike in malaysia, inspection with authorities always need to prepare an angpau to make sure the inspection will pass.", "ah yes, the industry that still ferries foreign workers on the back of open bed trucks. https://thediplomat.com/2023/11/a-lorry-ride-with-singapores-migrant-workers/\nthe industry that stuffs its workers into cramped hostels that spawned covid infection centers and then later treated it as if they are unwanted cattle, sequestering them into a part of the country and restricting thier movement. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/proof-accommodation-singapore-foreign-workers-step-right-direction-regular-checks-mom-3767186\nAh yes, no kautim culture indeed. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/bidadari-bto-corruption-bribes-construction-firm-project-manager-2601386\nhttps://www.cpib.gov.sg/press-room/press-releases/sentencedfor/\nhttps://sg.news.yahoo.com/ex-bca-contract-staff-charged-taking-bribe-040605330.html\nsure, sure.\nhttps://tnp.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/corruption-remains-low-construction-building-maintenance-concern\nSingapore's construction sector is definitely better than Malaysia. No doubt about it."], ["Just moved to SG for work 1 week ago. Public transport is very cheap and efficient. Always on time and rarely late. Also it is very walkable unlike in KL.\nAs for expensive, the rental here is crazy. However eating out very cheap compared to Malaysia. You can find chicken rice for $3.5 or $2.5 economy rice.\nLife here is also very fast paced. People walk way faster and even the escalators in mrt stations are set to a way faster speed.\nOverall like what others said, good place to earn money and save up. Then come back to malaysia and live a relaxed life with the sweet convertion rate."], ["They've reached high development status at par with countries like Norway Switzerland Canada. That's enough to be said lol......in Malaysia we are still arguing about which handbag the Minister stole for his wife in parliament or how young can Imams marry children in Kelantan"], ["Usually people who triggered were people refused to see n admit Malaysia is F in thousands of ways."], ["Every country has its plus and minuses, if you can take the good and avoid the bad then it would best. West has its problems, east has its problems, Muslim countries has its problems. That being said, the only people who are triggered are those whom says \u2018don\u2019t like get out\u2019. Meanwhile they yearn to go to the western countries \ud83d\ude06"], ["Generally, as someone who are Malaysian with Singaporean roots with family living all over the world, I felt it's pretty the same as living in Klang Valley as M40.... except smaller and Singaporeans have more national obligations as citizens than us here. As for politics, I wouldn't say it was better than the clusterfrak we have here but people shouldn't romanticize their soft authoritarian system.\nBut it really depends. Not everything was greener at the other side. And I'm sure a lot of Singaporeans would love to migrate out and away if they can. While I want to be closer to my dad's relatives, I also couldn't live there in long term or having a family life there. They are very welcoming to economical higher skilled rich migrants, of course but if you want to start from scratch thinking all the prospects would change your life... well... eh.. try commuting life in JB first and test the waters before you commit to it."], ["As a Singaporean in some stuff yes, others not so. We have less personal freedoms and of course, SPACE. But things are efficient here, civil service is one of the best in the world and so is infrastructure."], ["Singapore is better in almost every way. However, if you go to ground and observe the T40/M40, they don't look very happy there. There's also been a LOT of social engineering to get their people to confirm and behave specific ways. One comment from Singaporeans that they told me is that we have more freedom here in Malaysia.\nWe may not be #1 in the region like Singapore, but infrastructure wise, we're a strong number two. If you've traveled around SEA, that's really obvious.", "B40/M40 are seldom happy wherever they are. Because the constant comparison with the local T20.\nThis is also why immigrants are usually more content and thankful, they have a different reference to compare with.", "Good point. Never thought about the social engineering perspective.", "Quoting my China friend that's living in Singapore currently\n\"Compared to China? Same same but different, SG just another communist in different skin\"", "My goodness that quote haha."], ["The saltiness, cholesterol, and environment cleanliness, I don't think Malaysia is better."], ["The best you can do from this situation, Work in Singapore, save money, retire cheap in malaysia"], ["Envy is the thief of joy."], ["this is normal things, seldom the citizens of the country will loved that country, always said another country better, and it always subjective, always have pro and cons, there's no perfect country in this world"], ["All depends on what you want in life\nBut as far as objective measurements, Singapore is better in most ways"], ["Singapore better"], ["It\u2019s not just better, it\u2019s much better"], ["it's always said Singapore is expensive to live. one normal cup of starbucks cost $6-7 in singapore. The same in Malaysia I saw was RM15-16. in SG a small restaurant manager earns $3-4k/mth. The other day at a shopping centre in MY i saw an ad for RM2.5-3k/mth for similar job title. And I always wonder how Malaysians survive. It feels like Malaysians get it worse in terms of purchasing power"], ["Singapore fold times better as they don't put any manmade religion on priority ruling the country."], ["Singapore is what Malaysia could've been like if it had a competent government at separation. The divergence within the last few decades is clear to see."], ["Confirmed la. In Malaysia it\u2019s all about Islam, building as many mosques as possible, and eating as much money as possible. Who cares about progress? Who cares about infrastructure? Fuck education la. Fuck equality la. Fuck the minority la. Fuck public transport la. Fuck the fucking environment la. Fuck working hard la. Malaysia is fucked from the inside"], ["It's the intangible that is the difference. My wife's a Singaporean and I'm Malaysian. She always commented that many Malaysian don't realize how lucky we are. Yes the tangible things like good government, infra and etc SG is better.\nBut the intangible is what makes the difference, malaysia has lots of land to do more things, we can be self sustaining in terms of food (even though we are not now). SG buys everything even the next few years they will claim they are green country with hydro powered sources. Where is it coming from? Sarawak, Vietnam.\nA Singaporean doctor who I know migrated to Australia, simple reason, he doesn't want his kids to grow up in a place where there is no food security. During MCO, when malaysia closed our border SG gov had to ensure Malaysia will still send daily food needs to them. It was unimaginable what the doctor said has come through not quite total disaster but a wake up call.\nUnknown to many Malaysian unless you lived there are many policies where gov has direct impact on one's daily life. CPF contribution and withdrawal, ERP and COE pricing. If you don't graduate from top schools like RI, Hwa Chong and etc but ITE (polytechnic) you will have tough time getting jobs. ITE students are graduate with real life skills and much needed.\nMalaysia like many countries favours a mix of sme, entrepreneurship and MNC corp. The sky is the limit if you work hard and be millionaires.\nDo you think you can critise the gov like how we do it?\nWhen you get to retirement age, if you find city living too expensive, one can move to a smaller town. At some point I won't be surprised that Johor will be the retirement village for the average Singaporean.\nThis is just my personal opinion and experience. Please don't flame me if you don't agree.", "As a Singaporean, I agree with your 1st few para on the inherent disadvantage Singapore has. In fact this is not new, this disadvantage since Singapore independence. However, good people and good governance can change things, and Singapore has routinely punch above it's weight. Result speaks for itself.\nSince you talk about food. A taxi driver in Penang once told me the food in Malaysia is more expensive than Singapore. How can it be? It is possible. A fresh graduate in Malaysia earns 3 to 4 k ringgit probably similar to a Singaporean fresh graduate. But wantan mee in Malaysia is easily 7ringgit, and in Singapore $5 is considered slightly expensive.\nIt is not true that in Singapore you need to be academically inclined only to earn a good living. There are positions in the government to reward these scholars, and open an avenue to move up the social ladder if you work hard. In another perspective, because the economy is very vibrant, a lot of people also become rich if they are willing to take risk and get into business.\nI have to agree retirement in Malaysia is probably better in Singapore since income become a limiting factor. But if you have money, there are many countries which you can retire in.\nPardon my English and just offering my perspective.", "Malaysia is the best choice for SG retirement because of its location, distance, similar/same culture, food, language, and most importantly one can stretch the retirement fund 3.5 times till date.", "Can't agree more on the retirement and back up plan to move to a smaller town. This option is no available in SG and will never have. It is a blessing if Johor could be a our fall back plan, we could only wait and see. Hopefully in our life time."], ["UMNO vs PAP"], ["Not a Malaysian subreddit thread without Singapore being mentioned , living rent free in their heads."], ["Singapore is just a more efficiently run version of KL.\nand KL, being a capital city, is already more prosperous than the rest of the country by default."], ["TBH I find their hawker scene better than ours. More accessible and less excessive seasonings.", "In general SG Hawkers are cleaner, and the food cooked is 'healthier', and the taste caters to the local populace.\nThere are many drives to cut down on sugar, salt, and oil in hawker food ongoing right now. That being said Hawker food here in sg is still very carb heavy, and you need some effort to find high fiber high protein stuff.", "And more hygienic. Still, the flavor doesn't hit the same \ud83d\ude05", "its accessible because its subsidized,\nhawkers in Singapore are designed to keep Singaporean working so that they avoid cooking which take away time from working", "Better accessible yes. But less seasoning? Nope. I think they put much more msg to compansate cooking skill", "Seasoning doesn\u2019t mean msg. But haha if you think ours have less msg. Malaysian food is obviously much more heavier in terms of taste. Some more many of the food establishment are operated by foreign labors, where not many can do things properly. One meal can give you high sodium, high cholesterol, high sugar, high fat eventually higher chances of dying early.", "i suspect that their hawker food have some dairy products since i tend to laosai a lot when eating out in SG.\nnever had that problem in MY unless i purposely add cheese toppings."], ["Yes"], ["Depends which stage of life you are in your life.\nYou want to build your career and wealth? Singapore.\nYou want to have a better freedom of movement and retirement quality? Malaysia."], ["Invest in Singapore and spend in Malaysia. Earn 3:1 spend 1:3 Other part of life is subjective."], ["Salary , efficiency yes . And some industries sg > Malaysia\nHealthcare if I don\u2019t have more than average salary, it\u2019s not affordable imo at least on psych stuff . Also for green spaces imo Malaysia have way more variety when comes to park / hiking plus the lack of space would have drove me mad. I get why it\u2019s an attractive location but due to those factors it\u2019s not for me."], ["Food might be cheaper but I\u2019ve had low quality hawker fare in KL"], ["Yeah I agree that Singapore is a better country in almost every aspects except for the food. But for education in Malaysia if you choose government school you get education for free (stpm is free that\u2019s why I choose it) and only need pay for uni", "Education for Singaporeans are also almost free. Just a few dollars a month up to grade 12."], ["It's like comparing apples and oranges at this point..."], ["Well this is the typical siblings relationship, just like a poor big brother then that's the Rich little bro."], ["Overall i\u2019d say yes. Atleast those who work there can wipe their tears with SGD. When it is time, then come back chillax"], ["no clue, but whatever it is, it's bad enough for my uncle to suggest that I go SG to look for work in the future."], ["Singapore is a city that happens to also be a country. There are no rural areas.\nConversely Malaysia is a full-fledged country with multiple cities and rural areas. It's very different.\nAdmittedly good governance and business friendly policies made Singapore great. But it actually started on a higher base. When it was kicked out in 1965 it was the biggest city and state in Malaysia (by population). Singapore had 1.8M people when Selangor (KL was in it at that time) had 450k. It also had Malaysia's largest port, Airport and university. UM in KL was a branch campus of the Singapore one, which later became NUS."], ["Just go work there and you\u2019ll find out if it\u2019s your cup or tea or not. There\u2019s about a million Malaysians working there already at any given moment."], ["I think it depends on who you ask and who goes ballistic. I don\u2019t mean to sound rude but anyone who gets mad when they hear Malaysia is inferior to Singapore aren\u2019t usually the most educated or the \u2018sharpest tool in the shed\u2019. Comparing countries is just plain stupid in this day and age. Is Canada better than USA? Is New Zealand better than Australia? Is Cyprus better than Greece? Each country has its pros and cons. Singapore? Sure..stable government, top notch infrastructure, public safety is always good but their cost of living is insane, the food sucks and the people are on the verge of a mental breakdown constantly. It\u2019s all about personal preferences and what suits you and works in your favour. Comparisons are just a catalyst for negativity imho."], ["what i like about singapore is the commute experience\nfirst time ive been there by my own, i deliberately took buses and trains from terminal to the hotel which im supposed to be staying for work\nit was at 10pm even at that time\ni don't feel scared at all, managed to reach my destination with minor sweat\nKV transport system have a lot to learn"], ["People get triggered because most Malaysians already know that Singapore is objectively superior to our country in many ways. We don't need to be reminded of that fact constantly.\nBTW, \"better prospects\" in Singapore is contingent on having the requisite skills to compete with the talents over there. You're not going to have a very good time if you cannot keep up there."], ["the general consensus is usually that singapore is better for studying/working while malaysia is better for living. i know a lot of friends and family that work in sg, but all of the retirees always come bac kto malaysia."], ["", "But Singapore is tiny. I have taken shits bigger"], ["Hmm I don\u2019t know man. I guess Sg would be better if you\u2019re \u201clow to middle income\u201d because wages are better. But if you\u2019re rich (I\u2019m not), Malaysia is infinitely better. Sg is just another generic soulless city. If you\u2019re rich in Malaysia, there\u2019s nothing that Sg can offer you that Malaysia can\u2019t. Plus we have land, lots and lots of land. You can stay in multiple large landed properties with multiple cars, access to great healthcare (private) and education (private schools).", "that is not true,\nif you are rich Singapore is a much better country.\nboth for tax and economic opportunity reasons\nIts an open economy, you will not find much getting in your way if you run a business.", "I think he means that if you're rich and you don't really care about making money anymore. There's just more to enjoy in Malaysia than in Singapore.", "not true again, if you are rich, then it doesn't matter where you are living because the world is your oyster", "Yes, you are right, and SG is better for the rich because it is safer if compared to other places.", "If you were rich you wouldn't be saying this.\nThere's a limited level of access to ultra-luxe living in Malaysia, the government is nearly impossible to work with, locals are trying to exploit you opportunistically, and property security becomes a concern once your wealth reaches certain levels. Not to mention the business environment is embarrassing. There's a reason why the richest Malaysian in the world isn't even in Malaysia.\nThere's more to being wealthy than a few bungalows and visiting Pavilion."], ["Am Singaporean with a home in Malaysia. Honestly I feel less stressed and happier when I cross the border into JB. Malaysians are nicer in my opinion. Very genuine hardworking, sincere people. No airs about them.\nIn terms of governance, yes Singapore is very efficient and the GDP per capita is higher but I just feel like things are very expensive and people are more stressed financially. And the upper middle class and beyond or those who aspire to be upper middle class tend to be materialistic, extremely brand conscious and yes a tad snobbish.\nSo I really appreciate how Malaysians honestly are salt of the Earth people. They seem by and large unbothered by materialism, very family oriented and yes the government isn\u2019t perfect but no government is. And of course there are gripes on cost of living and the economy. But when you don\u2019t make money, consumerism and accumulation of wealth as the main focal emphasis of your culture and identity as a country, It\u2019s Really different and honestly better\u2026\nAlso in terms of political freedom, Malaysia is way better and you guys abolish the death penalty. So how can I as a patriotic dyed in the wool red Singaporean say that Singapore is better\u2026"], ["Singapore is the worse country in the world to live in as a car enthusiast. I could see why most of them come to Malaysia, night and day difference."], ["Singaporean with families from Malaysia and Malaysia roots. I prefer Malaysia honestly \ud83c\uddf2\ud83c\uddfe", "Would you like to elaborate?"], ["Singapore is a capitalist hellscape, which panders to the rich.\nLiterally a safehaven for the world's rich when they want to perform tax evasion or other \"ahem stuff\" from their original countries. As there are ZERO unions in Singapore.\nTo give an example, James Dyson of the Dyson company (you know the vacuums?)This guy is originally 1 of the people who pushed for UK's Brexit, but when the report came out that UK would lose money because of Brexit (basically relying on further countries to import/export items rather than countries in the EU which are much closer to UK hence less cost in shipping and refrigeration)...he ran all the way to Singapore.\nSo James Dyson lives in Singapore hence how he avoids a lot of taxes but the Dyson factories are in Malaysia.\nIf you check the timing of his UK exit, you would find out that since he came to SEA, the Dyson branch here (from employee reviews) has changed tremendously. What was once a company that relied on fresh ideas by engineers, now use them for harsh labor with no prospects of promotion. Along with toxic managers...\nAnd if you check the timing of the Dyson hair dryer, the 1st version used various Fashion Youtubers input but for the 2nd version (when James Dyson moved), the hair dryer did not use any Youtuber input nor any collaboration video which the 2nd version barely has any changes compared to 1st version. So this man has been mistreating Malaysian employees while making sure he wouldn't be taxed that much by our government since he lives in Singapore (The HQ of Dyson is also in Singapore).\nSingapore might look nice on the 1st glance but scratch that surface and you will find various strange things. For example, Singapore has a healthcare system but no system to take care of the disabled and poor.\nThe marginalized are often forgotten and villainized as \"lazy people\" or \"evil people\" when they are forced to turn to crime.\nA Singaporean would definately say the competitivenes in Singapore is high but they don't explain about the toxicity in Singapore workplace and studies that make suicide the no 1 death cause in Singapore (from age 10 to 29).\nSingapore is projected as a \"squeaky clean image\" but there are so, so many oil scandals, like the Keppel oil company owned by the Prime Minister's Lee family caught in a bribe with Petrobas from Brazil thanks to US investigations. The fine was 400 million USD but Keppel already had a contract with Petrobas worth 2.1 billion USD.\nThe Hin Leong Scandal has decades of fraud, or the Shell oil corruption as Shell's Singapore branch officials were caught stealing oil for years and sold off to others. If they have consistent surprise checks from regulatory bodies, none of that thievery or bribery would happen in all those cases.\nI could also talk about how Singapore exploits Vietnam, Cambodia using child and adult slave labor in fracking operations to steal sand. And they flood Vietnam lands with sea water which were farm lands. You should know from your science class that it's impossible to farm under seawater. So if you check Singapore maps throughout the decades, you would find stark differences with today's Singapore's map. Because they use the stolen sand to add onto their own lands.\nSingapore is instead a sham filled with broken dreams of its earliest predecessors where they had more socialist systems to help the poor gain skills, housed them and tried so hard to feed its people. But they were force to change in exchange for cooperation with the US, a nation of both capitalist and imperialist nightmares...\nAll because Malaysia kicked them out, in order to defend Malay Supremacy.\nSure, it's a shiny concrete jungle but that's it."], ["The best I can say is. Why we want to be like them. We find our own way much like Singapore find their own.\nThe grass will always look greener from the other side.\nFor me, we focused too much on the negatives that we forget the good things that we have."], ["Is the close-minded and backward thinking of Malaysia's governance that held us back. We were once as good as Japan, Korea and Singapore."], ["Dont open this thread, i depart few thing\n-when someone is stronger than you, there is nothing u can do but compromise or co exist together and suffer the fate unless u found a way to avoid or beat it to defy the fate\n-singapore is almost like japan, surface look good but the people are suffering with high gst and locked out epf by paying monthly when they retire , foreigner taking their job , cannot take lump sum .\npeople only go there purely for money , in sacrifice of health and mental"], ["Well, Malaysia has cheap ass oil and lower cost of car ownership. Better something than nothing. Probably the only something that's worthy of mention."], ["Yes but Malaysia has a better quality of life.\nAs an expat and speaking as a completely objective third party observer with absolutely no personal interest in the matter.\nI often tell people, Singapore is the brain and Malaysia is the heart.", "I often tell people, Singapore is the brain and Malaysia is the heart.\nI like this quote \ud83d\ude03"], ["Sg pros 1. Way lower income taxes compared to Malaysia 2. They have a philosophy of rewarding you if you act the way they want you to(and the govt isn't shy in telling you what to do). Social programs are robust and emphasise on self help. If you're a poor kid and willing to study hard they'll give you bursaries all the way until you get your job and will try to keep you in the country or govt. 3. Govt doesn't rob you of your money and punish you for working hard as bad as Malaysia does with surprise taxes and stupid policies to take your money and give it to someone in their favour 4. Very very efficient since everyone is kiasu, loves to complain - for the same money here you get better quality there, especially for mid-high end goods and services (before myr crashed under menteri magik formula n Deddy bifoty).\nSg cons 1. Lesser freedom of expression, many rules (a top technopreneur I met told me they can fine you if your car is unwashed, dirty and unkempt) 2. Expensive cars BUT once you have a car you're a king - it's still way cheaper than NY/HK/London CBD to be driving around with ERP and parking fees 3. Local Chinese and Malay food sucks. Filled with coloring and cheap ingredients. Chicken rice is painted with colour n apam balik is as hard as a frisbee. China food is pretty good, western, Indian, fusion can kick most Malaysian outlets to shame. 4. Citizens damn KPC n busybody. Like if a train comes late it gets on the news. Someone charges you sgd10 for mix rice also end up in the news and the guy has to apologise. Over here only the rm2000 siakap man from lgk makes it to the papers 5. You have to work til you die if you didn't save up and must be in good health. No free healthcare, CPF /MEDISAVE is a nightmare\nMY pros 1. Freedom, can litter all you want, speeding etc, get Saman, wait for diskaun. Woohoo. 2. Cheaper to retire here (for now). After daddy madani takes away the subsidies not sure how it will be for everyone who's not his favourite bifoty. 3. We have oil. This point alone is what allowed us to get away with all the idiotic decisions, wastage, stupid white elephant projects and generous heaping of corruption 4. Our local food is somewhat better but newsflash, sg is catching up, and th/id left us in the dust a long time ago 5. Bantuan bantuan bantuan! 6. Free healthcare that's pretty good - world class I'd say 7. Free schooling until secondary. Free food for poor kids (RMT or its equivalent) 8. Semangat kejiranan (Ish)\nMy cons 1. Just read this sub la no need to reinvent the wheel", "Freedom? You can't even sell a rainbow-colored watch. There's no freedom in Malaysia. The inability to regulate littering isn't freedom. Malaysia's only free compared to places like Iran and Saudi Arabia.\nIt's only cheaper if you don't use ringgit.\nMalaysia runs out of oil around 2035.\nThe local food is unhealthy and only \"better\" if you think sugar in everything makes everything better.\nA rich country wouldn't need this... and most Malaysians are broke.\nThe average life expectancy in Malaysia is 10 years shorter than Singapore's. Even foreigners in Malaysia statistically outlive Malaysians.\nI can't comment on the schooling, I was educated elsewhere\nDefinitely more than SG.", "You can rainbow all you like discretely, nobody here will bat an eyelid - it's only when they make it too obvious that they're forced to make a political statement. There's plenty of the alphabet crew here and the ones that are smart keep it in their bedrooms. Freedom of speech is something else, as it's a relic of colonialism and UK is probably worse when it comes to cancelling this and that and getting charged for \"hate speech\". Another relic of colonialism is making the govt be the cure to all your problems instead of taking things into your own hands like the original American constitution (small govt, low taxes) or even how HK was originally.\nTaste, that's all. sg food at the low end (sgd 2-6, hawker centre hdb) is also unhealthy with the colouring and stuff but the difference is it also tastes horrible. At least MY food doesn't torture you while it kills\nMalaysians are broke because they're pampered for 60 years of heavy subsidies in almost every part of life and don't forget all our utilities were govt owned and many still subsidised. Of course they never dealt with much hardship like earthquakes, hurricanes or even winter snow. Sure we have the annual floods but not as horrific as what happens in other countries. We have fertile soil, heavy agricultural subsidies and the list goes on. Now with economic mismanagement we're starting to feel the pinch but trust me the hardship is worse if you throw the average Malaysian in sg/HK/th/id.\nIt's highly dependent on own will - sg citizens are forced to prevent NCDs or even CDs because they know one hospital visit can screw up their savings, prevention is better than the cure but our healthcare is still way better even compared to NHS after factoring waiting time. The fact remains that our healthcare is top notch, notwithstanding the choices the citizens make.\nHowever to your point earlier about no freedom - we do get idiotic laws like GEG and anti party hopping, which is against freedom. The buck should stop at the individuals (would be smokers and MPs in this case). Nevertheless, it's a product of relying on the govt."], ["Singapore has its own unique problem, Malaysia has its own unique problem.\nGrass is not always greener on the other side."], ["My wife is from Singapore. If you're Chinese life will be easy for you in Singapore because you'll have better opportunity to get a job you received an education with.\nIf you're a Malay minority and Muslim it's difficult.\nI've met a lot of Malay Singaporeans who live in the United States now and their lives are better here than Singapore in terms of career.\nSingapore has it's benefits though, affordable health care, affordable childcare and the people are smarter and they value education."], ["Size of Singapore can be stifling\nAnd one dominant party there."], ["Lives like a robot. Not better.", "Isn't that the same lifestyle in KL?", "Yeah but at least there are other places in Malaysia."], ["Lifestyle wise, sucks. I went to cinema last week. Imagine spending 25 mins watching gov ads about drugs, gambling, health and repetitive ads from lazada. It's just so boring, the seats are rough and straight. I just miss Malaysia's entertainment so much. Sorry to say that but the mamak store here is not even a mamak store. The vibes are just too different for people to chill after work. But certain area hawker food is really good, cause the chef mainly Malaysian ma lol.", "You chill at mamak stores? That\u2019s sad", "problem?", "Yeah, it\u2019s cringe and you are hogging seats", "Your content has been removed - Subreddit Language (Rule 2).\nHello, posts and comments should be in romanised English or Malay only. You may provide a translation by editing your comment and pinging us here for reapproval, thanks!\nFor posts other than English or Malay, feel free to post on our new Malaysian Lemmy community!", "After not going to the cinema for some time, I was shocked to pay $38 for 2 tickets to watch \"The Boy and The Heron\". \ud83e\udd72"], ["If you make >S$15k a month, you'll live perfectly fine and a relatively high quality of life. If not, its insufferable. To put it in perspective, its like living in River Valley vs Hougang lol"], ["Every country have their pro and cons, its not just all shunshine or all stormy. It depends on your personal want I supposed, economically yes, Singapore got us beaten, but since I made more money than the average Singaporean anyway, that advantage does not sounds that appealing to me."], ["How is this a question.", "Well, I'm simply asking for others' opinions."], ["\u201cBetter\u201d is subjective man.\nSingapore is a much richer country, has way better infrastructure, education system, just overall quality of life.\nBut is that the best-all-end-all? Malaysia has better food, somewhat more relaxed lifestyle. From what I can see, singaporeans dont really have a \u2018lepak\u2019 culture the way we do here. It all comes down to what you prioritise"], ["Couldn't care less about them, why envy when we should be proud of our own country? Just like siblings, each has their own advantage and disadvantage. In area that we lack, we can learn to improve, but of course, it's up to the government willingness and ourselves to make this country better."], ["small country. its like ure comparing a family of 3 with family of 30."], ["Been working here for seven years, I can conclude that Singapore is better than Msia if you are only here just to work. Salary and payment yes, but lifestyle and retirement is a big no."], ["Definitely.\nFirstly, regarding food, S'poreans generally concede the topic more nowadays but the context is also important. M'sia's hawkers are still dominated by family-recipe businesses (thus each has their own unique taste) whereas S'pore's foodstuff are all but factory-made since the 1970s. S'prean tastebuds have also watered down due to constant health campaigns, so lard, sugar, salt, oil/grease, even excessive coconut are instinctively disliked. Most of all, the exchange rate is the biggest draw: something simple like Malay nasi lemak, which costs only RM 5-7 in M'sia, is priced at least S$4.50 (RM 16) in S'pore.\nPersonally, I dare say S'poreans are used to only Johorean & Penang cuisine as well. (Yup, not even Peranakan cusine.) That said, having travelled around M'sia for decades myself (I have relatives who fatefully chose backward places like Terengganu to settle down in the past), IMO the native food at these rural/coastal spots is seriously quite unappetizing even to urban M'sians. Basically what's the catch of the day, fried to a crisp, then soused with food/flower dye or condiments to improve the taste.\nBut back to topic. Modernization-wise, IMO M'sia 2020s is at best what SG was like pre-1997 Asian crisis. The latter was a watershed for M'sia (political infighting & waywardness reaching new heights ever since) in thwarting the country's potential to this day. More narrowly, the leadership listlessness since 2018 mirrors the post-1997 lost years (M'sia didn't recover until 2004 or so) when Mahathir was more preoccupied with proving the IMF, Reformasi &, in time, Badawi wrong.\nFor SG (& most M'sians don't know this), there was a considerable prosperity leap in the early 2010s when its post-2008 economy recovered quickest, & the younger PM Lee (after waiting 14 years to take charge) was perhaps too eager to open up the country to foreign talent. The result was a great societal upheaval, a perfect storm of election defeats, rampant fake news (which ironically killed off all the alternative news media), enduring racism/xenophobia, & actual riots (in Little India). Basically, SG experienced Trump-style politics half a decade before Trump became mainstream. But it would ultimately paid off with today's high affluence (I call it the Generation by the Bay generation) that would leave M'sia in the dust even if the Sheraton Move hadn't happened.\nRather than comparing directly with each other, the following is a better insight about the pace of modernization each side had undergone over time. I've highlighted only the rankings (those marking the start/end of each PM's stewardship, along with the 3 worldwide economic disruptions) at selected years to indicate whether SG/M'sia stood against other countries on a global scale.\nThe highlighted years are 1981 (when Mahathir became PM), 1990 (when Goh Chok Tong became PM), 1997 (Asian Financial Crisis), 2003 (when Badawi became PM), 2004 (when Lee Hsien Loong became PM), 2008 (Global Financial Crisis), 2009 (when Najib became PM), 2018 (when Mahathir became PM again), 2020 (Global Covid Pandemic).\nLike them or not, the indexes are utilized by government policymakers & international institutions.\nGDP (nominal) per capita - average value an individual is contributing to the economy:\n1981 - 59th (M'sia), 32nd (SG)\n1990 - 60th (M'sia), 28th (SG)\n1997 - 55th (M'sia), 15th (SG)\n2003 - 67th (M'sia), 24th (SG)\n2004 - 68th (M'sia), 24th (SG)\n2008 - 70th (M'sia), 23rd (SG)\n2009 - 73rd (M'sia), 22nd (SG)\n2018 - 70th (M'sia), 7th (SG)\n2020 - 65th (M'sia), 6th (SG)\n2023 to 2018 IMF Projections - 71st (M'sia), 5th (SG)\nGDP (PPP) per capita - adjusted for cost of living:\n1981 - 61st (M'sia), 23rd (SG)\n1990 - 59th (M'sia), 11th (SG)\n1997 - 48th (M'sia), 8th (SG)\n2003 - 54th (M'sia), 7th (SG)\n2004 - 54th (M'sia), 8th (SG)\n2008 - 57th (M'sia), 8th (SG)\n2009 - 57th (M'sia), 6th (SG)\n2018 - 58th (M'sia), 3rd (SG)\n2020 - 58th (M'sia), 2nd (SG)\n2023 to 2018 IMF Projections - 59th-57th (M'sia), 3rd-4th (SG)\nHuman Developmental Index - general well-being of populace, i.e. life expectancy, access to education, standard of living:\n1990 launch of index - 70th (M'sia), 38th (SG)\n1997 - 54th (M'sia), 24th (SG)\n2003 - 60th (M'sia), 25th (SG)\n2004 - 64th (M'sia), 26th (SG)\n2008 - 73rd (M'sia), 21st (SG)\n2009 - 68th (M'sia), 21st (SG)\n2018 - 65th (M'sia), 9th (SG)\n2020 - 61st (M'sia), 10th (SG)\n2021 latest index - 62nd (M'sia), 12th (SG)\nGlobal Innovation Index - innovation to drive productivity & promote economic growth:\n2007 launch of index - 26th (M'sia), 7th (SG)\n2008 - 25th (M'sia), 5th (SG)\n2009 - 28th (M'sia), 7th (SG)\n2018 - 35th (M'sia), 5th (SG)\n2020 - 33rd (M'sia), 8th (SG)\n2023 - 36th (M'sia), 5th (SG)"], ["Yes, Chinese majority rule is definitely better", "Boring tho like robots"], ["Malaysia is like a great big party taking place on the floor above a boring, sterile office that is Singapore."], ["Have you learnt how LKY treat his political opponent?", "Not sure of the relevance of how a certain politician's behavior changed the image of the country as a whole but do enlighten me."], ["Is this bait? Because at the end of the day, this is subjective. But if I were rich, I'd pick living in Malaysia over Singapore. I go back and visit both, but Singapore is just so boring and same-ey. Malaysia just lacks good governance.", "No, it's a genuine question.\nAlso, I'd say you're right about Malaysia's biggest flaw."], ["Only meaningful thing better about Singapore for the commoner is that the currency is strong. You can afford to travel to further places. That\u2019s pretty much it. Everything else is more expensive or shittier.", "Dollar for dollar our things are much more expensive.\nMy job pays more in SGD in Singapore, but things are lesser in SGD there, rental and property prices almost the same dollar for dollar...", "Indeed dollar to dollar it's cheaper. A plate of char kway teow cause 10-12RM! I'm kinda amazed when my parents in law bring me out for lunch and it's around 70-80rm for a table of 5. Eating out in Malaysia is really getting expensive.", "rental and property prices almost the same dollar for dollar\nThis is factually wrong.\nAffordable housing in Singapore is not your \u201cproperty\u201d nor works in any sense of the word.", "Hahahahahaha I laughed when you say rental is similar \u2026. Touch some grass yo\u2026", "I touch some grass you touch some tenancy agreements k?", "Rented for over 10 years\nLived In TTDI, have been paying for RM3000 for a two story terrance house.\nCan you get a similar SGD3000 for a two story terrace house in Singapore at the same kind of affluent neighbourhood ?\nHow you want to twist dollar to dollar, rental properties in malaysia is way cheaper than Singapore laaa\u2026", "Ffs I thought you have a strong comeback but you here just wanting to compare landed house.\nTouch some TAs from Singapore also not just Msia."], ["Even the food is better."], ["Singapore is a very hectic and competitive place to live. Plus I would go bonkers living in an expensive but tiny and cramped apartment. Singapore is small, the landscape artificial and near constant compared to the variety we have in Malaysia.\nMalaysia is much better in this regard. The grass always looks greener on the other side."], ["Healthcare-wise, we are way better"], ["Singapore is better in terms of developing better. That\u2019s about it. Other elements are more around the same. Especially you living in KL city centre."], ["Malaysian girls have better looks and figure for the current batch of 20s-40s. Not sure why.", "Could it be due to the food", "Maybe air"], ["No. Each country has their pros and cons. Stop believing Singapore propaganda.\nRemember kids, SGD 1 = MYR 3.5 means that you can earn loads of MYR and retire in MY.\nCan Singaporeans afford to retire in SG?\nJust a thought."], ["Singapore is a place to work and earn money, Malaysia to retire and live. It\u2019s too freaking boring to live in Singapore, don\u2019t even mentioned the food there\u2026"], ["I think Malaysia have better bah-kut-teh than Singapore."], ["Hi, Singaporean here with a lot of relatives in PJ KL. In a lot of fronts Singapore is a lot better than Malaysia . But you guys are more chill , big country and lots of nature . I feel sometimes Singapore is a little bit mickey mouse a lot of things are .....engineered\nBut then again I can only offer my opinion as a tourist , I truly enjoy everytime I come to Malaysia"], ["The have a better economy and more political stability. But I don't think their quality of life is better because of the highly competitive capitalistic environment.\nIf you're Chinese, you'll probably think it's better there. If you're Malay, you'll probably think better here. If your Indian, you're fucked either way."], ["At least there's no discrimination or privilege based on races in their policies in Singapore", "Oh you sweet naive child", "They have. Support minority.", "Doubt it. Same shit, different actors that\u2019s all."], ["Malaysia is much better compared to Singapore. Yes, Singapore is almost perfect but Singaporean people are quite mean and nagging types. It's quite stressful to live in Singapore because most of the Singaporean are not considerate at all. If you minus the strict law from Singapore it will be a hell hole. Even they need sensor in elevator because some people urinate in there if no one see them. I have live in Singapore for few months and living in Malaysia for few years. There's no human touch in Singapore, but in Malaysia you can feel this country have colourful life."], ["Yet, singkies come to Malaysia...filiing up ron95."], ["Singapore is only good for making money. You don't want to live there."], ["let me just state the obvious. Singapore is public transport heaven. trains are always on time, most taxi drivers aren't doing initial d shit, bus and taxis are gps tracked. taxis aren't old ass dingy cars.\nfoodwise, its pretty bland in a healthy sense.. just think of it as less salt less sugar of malaysian food."], ["Singaporean can brag about how good their economy is. Malaysian can brag about their land and natural resources. At the end we all know the country that self sufficient will win."], ["Levels above foodies"], ["The only thing we have over them is beautiful landscapes all around us."], ["seems like we malaysians take water for granted, i feel like our country so hot, i cannot survive if access to water is being scarce and expensive"], ["They're better than us, no doubt\nExcept for their food"], ["The grass is always greener on the other side."], ["Singaporean here. Y'all have better culture - life, food, recreation, geography. So yeah, if that matters I guess you guys have it better."], ["We have a bigger public servant than sg"], ["At least y'all ain't a dead soul-less country + no ns\nso APA LAGI ENJOY AH SIAL"], ["no :29091:"], ["Singapore has it's problems just like us. It depends on your opinion on who is better cause in the end, where ever you feel more comfortable at is the better place for you."], ["Can\u2019t help but feel cramped in SG. My dad described SG as a place where there\u2019ll be someone in every nook and cranny on the island.\nI like solitude when it comes untuk healing which there are plenty in malaysia."], ["Our food is superior, but let\u2019s be honest, that\u2019s about it.", ":26563:"], ["They are quite sad tbh, long waiting for HDB which only can last for 99 years, car are bloody expensive and food is just mediocre. Everyday work and go home sleep. Everywhere full of people and long queue.", "Is true...usually each person will need at least two hdbs in their life time. Otherwise they outlive the house"], ["You don't see why Malaysians go ballistic over it???\nARE YOU BEING SERIOUS ON THIS??? DO WE HAVE TO EMPHASIZE IT TO YOU AGAIN THAT MALAYSIA FOOD IS 9 STREET AWAY BETTER THAN SINGAPORE FOOD??? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GOD DAMN MIND??? THERE IS NO WAY SINGAPORE FOOD CAN BE BETTER THAN OURS!!! PERIOD!!!"], ["Please la yall have affordable cars \ud83e\udd72, imagine being a petrolhead in sg"], ["Singaporean here. Agree with ur points but the cost of living and the work culture here is not as good as Malaysia."], ["sg has better infra, but you run out of places to go very quickly.\nit has better economy, but a lot of things are harder to use (buy new speakers, have to turn it down)\nit has better walking access, but your ahmoi is still capped at 10m\nthe food is cheaper and cleaner, but its bland cause shops need to jaga overhead.\nthere are other stuff but you get the idea, amazing corporate job ahmoi place, can go tier 1 instagrammable countries easily."], ["Some describe living in Singapore as a rat race where it\u2019s just stress everyday on top of being the most expensive place to live in so it can be considered a major trade off to some"], ["The problem with Singapore is that they can be crippled within hours. Water, oil and food, they have none"], ["no,my country (Malaysia) is always better"], ["No it's not. - a Singaporean."], ["Well, if Singapore were so great, why are even so many Singaporians wanting to leave? (Yeah, because it is so expensive...)"], ["you sure Malaysians triggered? or is it Malays triggered?\nonly time I get triggered by \"SG better\" is when it comes to food, and that is justified"], ["Singapore is better, please plan for mass migration there and don't come back. /s"], ["Yes."], ["In case you haven't noticed, there's this thing that gives Malaysians a chance to retire with a T20 lifestyle: SGD"], ["SG is a fact better in economy, but to say better in everything than Malaysia is a little out of fact. Both country have ups and down and when comparing stuff, I always like to use quote below:\n\u201cThe grass isn't always greener on the other side, it's greener where you water it.\u201d \u201cSometimes the grass will appear greener on the other side because it has been fertilized by bullshit.\u201d", "That last paragraph is perfect."], ["the only think i can think of is that you can do a lot of grey area stuffs in Malaysia (you know i know kinda stuff) + more freedom i would say.\nOther than that, yeah, long way to go to head to that direction.."], ["yes and water is wet"], ["You can survive on your own rather than having to rely on parents to give you a room until you're married."], ["I always thought Malaysians triggered after hearing Singapore is better than Malaysia is just a meme or some sorts?", "It was so prevalent that it became a meme. Still, said topic is still often debated."], ["1st, I am Malaysian. My take is we make the best use of each other's strengths. If can afford the exchange rate and want to be close to home, higher education in Singapore is better than Malaysia. They have the world's top universities and definitely the top in Asia. If want to earn a better living, capitalise on Singapore's currency. But if want a better cost of living and life, stay in Malaysia"], ["Short answer:\nYes.\nAnd why do Malaysians have a hard time handling it? Because Malaysians culturally love to save face, even internally.\nTak apa, placate the blame whenever possible."], ["Depends on who you ask.\nTo the civil-minded, Singapore is the prime example of what Malaysia is capable of achieving.\nTo the Walaun, Singapore is negara kafir who has strayed from the path."], ["To each their own, and the grass is greener where you choose to water it."], ["When rationality doesn\u2019t win, emotion rules. That\u2019s probably why."], ["The only difference that matters IMO is that Singapore citizenry is more civic conscious than Malaysians in their own country. It is enforced and not voluntary though, as from personal experience, as once Singaporean are here they behave worse than us."], ["where your dark soy sauce at?"], ["Syukurrrrrr negara masih aman. That aside, Malaysia is mainly crippled by the ketuanan Melayu nonsense, pensions, and all the welfare state initiatives. You lift this and remove the corrupt gatekeepers, Malaysia will go further."], ["Yes in terms of civic society, but not in terms of freedom. In Malaysia you end up being more free because of lack of public order. People can get away with almost anything if they can pay their way out. If you don't have money, the government is still pretty inefficient so it doesn't really matter if kids without license ride motorcycles to take up the whole highways, general littering, trash burning, illegal parking, illegal anything really etc. People just don't care enough so the government also doesn't put in the effort. I say this with no offense, Malaysians are too easygoing and gentle. They just endure when bad things happen and turn a blind eye to the problem, they don't really believe there could be positive change."], ["Malaysia got poke backside PM, what more do we need?"], ["You got balls mate , to ask such question here.hopefully x suka blh kluar squad didnt found you"], ["I've never delved into SG's politics but I had a feeling that their politics are more stable than the shitshow over here. Other than that MY typically eclipses SG in most aspects: Food, Nature, Affordability, etc.\nAnother personal POV as a car enthusiast such as myself is that SG is pretty much car culture hell compared to the car culture in MY with all that COE and other bullshit laws and regulations they have."], ["If all good there then go there la. Why stay in a shithole \ud83e\udd71"], ["My friend literally got bullied out of Singapore when he went to study there lol"], ["Live in Singapore for a few years, get your salary, experience, network, and offshore bank account, and leave."], ["I think that it\u2019s stupid to compare the two. Singaporeans and Malaysians both need to stop living witg a chip on their shoulders and just live life."], ["Malaysia has land lol"], ["As a foreigner who has lived in both, I would say I prefer working in Singapore and living in Malaysia. It's not about SGD vs MYR, it's more about the efficiency and no corruption. Things get done quickly in Singapore, they take much longer in Malaysia.\nI also enjoy the space Malaysia offers and I like the walkability of Singapore. I wish KL was more walkable, that would improve the city a lot."], ["Singapore is more world class. Michelin Star restaurants, international theme parks."], ["I mean when your government keeps on looting the treasury for their own ill gotten gains and waste it on frivolous things instead of building trains and drains and infrastructure..\nAll those decades of surplus gone just like that, you guys have to work to rebuild it and hope it won't get stolen again"], ["Should compare SG to KL , that is the only fair comparison"]]}
+{"title": "2 Years Ago I Started Watching Malaysian Movies. This is What I Seen So Far. Please Recommend.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xdlmi/2_years_ago_i_started_watching_malaysian_movies/", "num_comment": 154, "flairlabel": ["Culture"], "header": "2 years ago I made a post to ask for Malaysian mo ie recommendation. Now I say I watched quite a few and some latest ones in cinema. thank you guys. please recommend more :)", "comments": [["Should include all Yasmin Ahmad films in that list.\n<image>", "Sepet being translated as Chinese eye\ud83d\udc80", "| o_o |\n/--_--\\", "Hello is this patrick", "are these mostly love stories?", "It\u2019s love stories but Yasmin Ahmad films always able to captured the \u201cMalaysian\u201d background in an enchanting way.. like you can relate to it.. especially her family dynamics.\nShe always able to do \u201crace\u201d issues in malaysia very well.. give it a try.. try SEPET. You will know what I mean", "Yasmin Ahmad is highly recommended.", "Where to watch?", "Sepet (2005) by Yasmin Ahmad (youtube.com)"], ["mamat khalid movies needs to be on that list if ur into comedies", "man laksa\nrock ooo\nhantu kak limah balik rumah\nzombie kg pisang", "Rock Ooo is just so funny and interesting to watch. The time setting is very interesting as it's during the peak rock era in Malaysia. And the plot is great, how they rise to the top from rock bottom."], ["Petaling Street Warriors (2011). Sort of a parody of Kungfu Hustle.\nThe Journey (2014). An old Malaysian man and his British future son-in-law go on a road trip.\nEdge of the World (2021). The story of the White Rajahs of Sarawak. Not 100% Malaysian, but set in historical Sarawak and stars a few Malaysians in minor roles."], ["Imaginur - 2023 and Gadoh 2009 film ( this film was banned but you can watch it on youtube )\nBunohan, Interchange ( 2016 ), Lelaki Harapan Dunia , Kil", "I second Imaginur. One of my favorites of all time.", "Why was it banned?", "if you havent watched it, you should try it", "Gadoh 2009\nIs it the one where the female director passed away but directed some truly beautiful material for ads and movie? (I mean IRL, not in the movies.)", "No, that is Yasmeen Ahmad.", "I think it's the one about racial riot at schools, if I'm not mistaken. Gang fights between students. Based on true story in Johor I heard.\nedit: sorry. wrong movie. the movie I talk about is called \"Bab*\".", "Okay thanks bro", "Is \" Pendatang\" ban or not.", "Seconded on Imaginur. Best movie of 2023 for me."], ["Check out Ola Bola. Great Malaysian football movie.", "+1 for ola bola", "Oh yes Ola Bola is highly recommended!", "I thought it was overrated and incredibly inaccurate."], ["From 2023, I'd strongly recommend the below, which are superb by any standard (not just \"Ok for Malaysia\"):\nAbang Adik\nLa Luna\nImaginur\nHungry Ghost Diner\nHonorable mention to:\nMentega Terbang\nPendatang\nBoth of them are not as superlatives the ones on top, but they are different and quite well done.\nTiger Stripes is supposed to be quite good as well, but unable to get an uncensored copy for viewing as of yet.", "Just watched abang adik on Christmas! Loved the depiction of pudu"], ["Magika!", "Baru nak recommend filem ni hahaha", "Old is gold"], ["Abang Adik, still showing at cinema."], ["Fly by night"], ["Prebet Sapu is one of those movies that make you feel like you're in a time machine. It's simple and easy to understand but at the end of the movie you don't realise how much time has passed. You just hope the movie didn't end yet and wanted to know more (Just my personal opinion)."], ["TIGA JANDA MELAWAN DUNIA!!!!"], ["ROH - a malaysian horror movie with modern horror cinematography. But the ending okay2 je if you really watch A LOT of horror movies. Jangan pandang belakang - also a good horror movie. Good malaysian horror movies have good pengajaran to take into account."], ["Redha, a realistic narrative about a kid with special needs and in this case it's autism.", "I found it a bit too preachy about autism, but the cinematography and character building had lots of effort. It was more focused on the caregiver's POV than the autistic character, which is what most depictions are moving away from.\nHence, I much prefer Guang, which manages to balance both of the latter. At least Redha is not Sia's 'Music' film.", "Oh I've never watched Guang. Thanks for the recommendation :26558:", "Wow I didn't expect this movie to be mentioned, Tunku Mona Riza the director is my Mother's cousin."], ["Spinning Gasing"], ["Watch Hikayat Merong Mahawangsa. Great movie. Set in Langkasuka with Roman and China Empire.", "And also I don't think Wira is a good movie. The dialogue and chemistry between characters looks so awkward. The plot is a mess and rushed. Too simple and common. And punchline is too forced. The worst movie I've watched in a Cinema so far.", "And if u like Leftenan Adnan, gotta watch Bukit Kepong too."], ["Man Laksa - easy-going slice of life by legendary Mamat Khalid. Lowkey the Malaysian version of Wes Anderson in terms of story-telling and character-building (sans the aesthetics).", "this looks interesting!"], ["If you can find it. Old movie, Kami. Starring the late Sudirman. Made in the 80s, so it\u2019s a rough watch. Sad story though."], ["p.ramlee movies, there's a lot of it\nbujang lapok trilogy (og bujang lapok; seniman; pendekar)\nantara dua darjat, anakku sazali, penarik beca, ahmad albab, nujum pak belalang, tiga abdul, madu tiga, sarjan hassan, nasib doremi, ali baba, ibu mertuaku"], ["I would really recommend The Journey (2014).", "came here to say this! definitely one of my most favourite Malaysian films."], ["I enjoyed Polis Evo"], ["HIKAYAT Merong Mahawangsa"], ["Kil"], ["I\u2019m gonna ask you which ones your recommend instead."], ["Imo Songlap is probably the best malaysian movie. Is right up there with any yasmin ahmad classics"], ["Antoo fighter"], ["Nasi Lemak 2.0 and Fly by Night"], ["Gol dan Gincu, Pisau Cukur \ud83d\udc85\ud83c\udffb"], ["Ola Bola"], ["Where to watch Jagat legally?", "Netflix"], ["Senario Lagi, Lagi-Lagi Senario, and XX Ray,"], ["Go watch kil, have redza minhat, the movie is about a man trying to un-alive himself"], ["Zaman2 saiful apek, scenario, erra fazira, ning baizura, yusry, maya karim, etc. We go classic \ud83d\ude0e\nForgot movies name tho, the only one i can remember jutawan fakir, i know what u did last raya(maybe) , lost and found, mami jarum., pontianak harum sundal malam."], ["I heard, Mat Silau is pretty good."], ["Badang , starring aliff shukri"], ["None..."], ["Don't watch what the comments said. Watch gangster 2005. Worth your while", "Syamsul Yusof movie? Naaah.", "God no , its 2005. Syamsul was still a virgin baby back then. You never saw gangster 2005? That movie is effing good more closer to what Malaysia was.\n<image>", "Ah, okay. The Rosyam Nor one. Never saw it, but I heard good things."], ["Man Laksa, Duyung, All Senario movie"], ["Directed by Mamat Khalid, usually their movies are good, especially rock and hantu kak limah. classic movie by p ramlee also top recommended"], ["Tiger Woohoo! - bawled in the cinema T-T"], ["I dunno if you have it, but try psiko: pencuri hati. It may sound like a romance film. But i promise you, it\u2019s different.", "<image>"], ["Took you 2 years to finish these movies? Man, they weren\u2019t kidding when saying Malaysian movies are terrible", "I only watch Malaysian movies occasionally, when I feel the vibe"], ["PLEASE WATCH GUANG (2018)\nits available for free online i think. dunno about any official methods", "It's on youtube"], ["Kl gangster wher"], ["missing Sepet and a few others by the late Yasmin Ahmad"], ["Anak Mami the Movie dah tengok lum?"], ["Bunohan, jogho, one two jaga my all tine 3", "I agree with Bunohan"], ["Well all the movies i absolutely love hv already been watched by you \ud83d\udc80\nBut...! I can recommend good malay series!\nProject: High Council - 2023 Projek: Anchor SPM - 2021 Kudeta - 2022 i Tanggang: Mother of All Lies - 2021 My Famous Ex Boyfriend - 2023\nHv fun \ud83e\udd19\ud83e\udd19"], ["Mekanik"], ["Pensil"], ["Metro Maalai, 2019 Malaysian Tamil movie"], ["Kl gangster. then can start talking like ajib"], ["Aside from alrdy hyped YET great ones here like Tiger Stripes, Imaginur and Abang Adik, I recommend Guang, Redha, Muallaf and Spilt Gravy on Rice. Dukun, the horror film loosely based on Mona Fandey will work if you keep expectations lower.\nI might be cheating if I say Fundamentally Happy. It's made in SG but with a key Msian actors. (rip Adibah Noor)"], ["jibam, magika and 29 Febuari are one of my favs"], ["Wait until he found out abt polis evo"], ["Poochandi (2022)\n<image>"], ["Should try Walid, have a good story and action combination. Available on Netflix now"], ["Songlap (2011) is a good film, pretty bleak tho"], ["Watch old bola fun movie"], ["Abang Adik (2023) is a must watch, XX Ray, The Journey, Terbaik Dari Langit."], ["The Journey. I forget which year it was though"], ["zombie Kampung pisang cinematic universe"], ["If you can get, P Ramlee movies, one of the , if not, greatest Malaysian filmmaker"], ["TRY HANTU KAK LIMAH THE FIRST ONE, LAWAK BRO [Idk if it's available in your country]"], ["Baik Punya Cilok, Buli. Great movies from director Afdlin Shauki. Baik Punya Cilok plot twist is kind of stupid but I kinda like it. Buli is great at showing the effects of bully and I felt so sympathize with Nordin - Main Character.\nAnother one Mami Jarum. It was hella funny.\n<image>"], ["Try to find Bunohan and Tombiruo"], ["Abang Long Fadil 1,2,3. ONe of my favorite comedy movies"], ["Mamat Khalid's films are really worth the watch. The comedy are quite original and his directing style means every movie feels like a nostalgic 80s flick."], ["i don't know much but pusaka is one of the few watchable malaysian horror(scary?) films if not top 5 of the genre"], ["No Cicakman? No Badang?"], ["Cicakman"], ["Khabir Bhatia's movies. I've seen no one recommend his films here.", "Apparently you've watched some of his movies.", "Anyway, watch Juang. \ud83d\udc4d\ud83c\udffb"], ["Without a doubt Bunohan. Always at the top of my mind.\nThe polis Evo series is pretty good too. Each one gradually attaining hollywood levels production."], ["P Ramlee films. They\u2019re available on Astro"], ["If you're free & would like to try out a series, I'd recommend High Council. I relate to it so much as I'm raised in that boarding school setting. It's a bit exaggerated for dramatic effect but the issues it explores are real."], ["I'm surprised that you watch Jagat. The film industry never liked this movie. But I give my respect for watching this movie."], ["Our films industry is still the mak kau hijau themes"], ["Hoping for someone to make a full list of all movies being recommended here."], ["Merong Mahawangsa, Bisik pada langit"], ["Spilt Gravy on Rice / Ke Mana Tumpahnya Kuah\nThis is a family drama + comedy + political satire adapted from a play written by the underrated Jit Murad. Originally intended to be released in 2013 but got delayed because the local film censors objected to some taboo topics included in the film. It was finally released in 2022 after Jit passed away."], ["Non mainstream films are pretty good imo because they address realities that people face, whereas most mainstream films are dictated to have some narrative that puts the country in a good light. Check out Budak Kelantan or Spinning Gasing if you have the time."], ["Mat kilau"], ["try watching roh (2019) by kuman pictures. good msian horror"], ["hantu kak limah, alamak toyol, and just follow law (I think it might be Singaporean tho, but muthu goated in that movie )"], ["Geng Penggembaraan Bermula\nBoBoiBoy the Movie\nUpin & Ipin Keris Siamang Tunggal\nEjen Ali the Movie\nBoBoiBoy the Movie 2\nMechamato the Movie\nDidi and Friends the Movie"], ["damnn adnan bin saidi had a film? i never knew that"], ["Gila Baby, Sepi and someone already mentioned Imaginur."], ["The Garden of Evening Mists. Not strictly Malaysian (Taiwanese director) but it's set in the Cameron Highlands during the Emergency."], ["Setem is really well done."], ["Bukit Kepong"], ["Badang\ud83d\udc4d"], ["If you like horror, I recommend Ia Wujud. It's a good found footage horror. Honestly surprised by how intense some of the parts were. Oh right, there's another similar one called Highland Tower. I think the latter is much scarier but it's honestly up to taste."], ["Imaginur (Prime Video), Eraser (Prime Video) , Abang Adik (in cinemas), S.A.M. (Psycho Thriller but cheesy), Misteri Dilaila, Prebet Sapu, Fly By Night, Adiwiraku, 29 Februari, Pulang"], ["Terbaik dari langit"], ["OLA BOLA"], ["AND IM NOT JOKING WHEN I SAY LAGI-LAGI SENARIO. FOR HAVING AZIZ M. OSMAN AS THE DIRECTOR YOU GET FOR SOME REASON\u060c REALLY COMPETENT CINEMATOGRAPHY FOR A COMEDY IN THE EARLY 2000s but I admit the pacing is painful."], ["Watch some P Ramlee movies, they're true classics. Very good humour"], ["Afdlin Shauki movies are good."], ["Merong mahawangsa"]]}
+{"title": "This aunty escaped death, like literally.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xpirt/this_aunty_escaped_death_like_literally/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Video from @jasonyukt on Instagram, Kota Kinabalu, Sabah", "comments": [["What the hell is she doing", "She could have dementia or other mental health issue."]]}
+{"title": "Is Tabligh Legit?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xknpx/is_tabligh_legit/", "num_comment": 23, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Based on the title I'm genuinely curious of this topic. Obviously majority of Malaysians are Muslims, some pious, some not but Muslims but how legit is tabligh?\nFor some context, I've encountered NUMEROUS of tabligh goers that physically look pious (at this age, appearance is just for show) but they take pride in leaving their wives and children in the name of preaching. One man I met around Sri Petaling bragged by saying \"Saya memang tinggalkan anak isteri dekat rumah sebab nak berdakwah 40 hari\" and without nafkah in hopes that God can help them at home. Another tabligh man I met does the same thing and does not want to divorce the wife because the doesn't want to appear as the \"bad guy\" and proceeds to marry another woman without the knowledge of the first wife via nikah syndicate.\nBear in mind that I am not generalising tabligh goers but most of them that I've personally met portrays the same behaviour and attitude that does not reflect the true representation of Islam because if they really are a man of Islam then why not take care of wajib matters first?\nI am really curious of this.", "comments": [["Hi! Good question!\nI have some experience with the Tabligh folks. I've gone out with them when I was a student, but never went more than three days.\nHere's a recap: 1. I see it as a \"summer\" camp. Back then, smartphones weren't a big deal and had limited capabilities. So, I was able to focus fully on worship. You wake up before Fajr, then you listen to Halaqah sessions, you eat breakfast together, and then you get free time to chill/nap and basically doing those until bed time.\n\"Worship and chill\", and if you're busy with work, this is a really good way to decompress. I enjoyed it, though I knew I would get tired if I went for too long - three days was good. In essence, nothing weird going on there, completely legit, to answer your question.\nMy issue with them is on their main material - the book is called Fadhail A'mal. It's got good stuff but some of the narrations were less than authentic and some were flat out false narrations. This is one of the things that was a bit tough to swallow, but some members maintained that the leader needed to be wary of it and we should still be good. I don't know why they wouldn't just use another book like Riyadh al-Saliheen. To expand my answer, it is still legit, but they need to work on their material and be more careful.\nAbout leaving family at home without provisions, this is seemingly a regional issue. I went to Tabligh in Malaysia and in the US, and they were different by a lot. In Malaysia, we walked from house to house. In the US, we traveled in Lexuses, Beemers and Cadillacs. Those folks were WELL OFF. One of them, I remember was a surgeon (a cardiologist, if memory serves) - I went to his house party once (a legit mansion, btw) - the American Dream in all its glory. My point is, when he took months off work for Tabligh, his family was good to go, his kids were grownups too. They're all set.\nThe Malaysian counterparts need to work on their reasoning when it comes to religion. I think going out 3 days like I did would suffice if they're not that well to do, and family depends on them more tightly. There's no one rule that fits all, though, some may have more support system even if they're not rich. You gotta apply some reasoning with the religion.\n\"Don't you use reason?\" repeats Allah in the Quran.", "Thank you so so much for this, I am rather shallow in this aspect and I got to admit that I am rediscovering Islam at this point (trying to understand it instead of blindly following) which is why I really appreciate your extensive explanation.\nI love how you included your experience abroad too!! I must say that although I am considered lucky to be born into a Muslim family in Malaysia, I do notice that practicing Islam here can be performative, forced even, especially since it's greatly intertwined (or maybe mistaken) as culture. I am currently based in NZ and I do see and feel the difference of how Islam is practiced here and ofc there is a lot the Malaysian Muslim community can learn from.\nMuch love!", "Pleasure! Yes that was in Chicago - we had a massive Muslim community there, a masjid at every corner, even KFC restaurants displayed Halal sign there - Islamophobes's worst nightmare.\nPerformative is actually good for little kids while they are developing. But our understanding of the religion must grow and mature as we do the same. Nuances must be understood, and there's no better way to understand differences than traveling far and out. It's good you're out there, you must mingle with Muslims there.\nI only lived with Malaysians during my 1st year. I moved out and lived with other Muslims after that till graduation. My best friends were Pakistanis, Americans, Saudis, British, Chinese, Indians, Sri Lankans, Moroccans, Libyans, Nigeriens, Nigerians, and they were all awesome with all the differences. It's shaped our minds when we expose ourselves that way. I miss them dearly.", "There's no one rule that fits all, though\nI'm pretty sure there's a universal minimum requirement somewhere like not being a total ass and leave your family to provide for themselves. I really hate \"pious\" people who use religion as escape goat for their bad behaviour. And sheepel who blind defend them. People can't criticise the followers or local practice without being accused of insulting islam.", "some may have more support system even if they're not rich.\nLiterally the next clause.", "Really good answer."], ["Dr Zulkifli (previous WP mufti) wrote about it once. To join tabligh and do dakwah itself is not wrong but Islam actually preaches that you do everything in moderation. Doing something like leaving your family to fend for themselves for a long period of time without providing necessary support and saying you are doing it in the name of Islam is a big no no.\nDoesn't even just mean financial support. Imagine if the wife has small kids/newborn and has to deal with it all on her own with no helper etc? That's just selfish and a huge mental burden on the family.\nOn the other hand, if you have ensured that all the needs of your family are cared for when you are gone, then there are no issues. Personally I know of a number of Muslim men who join these tabligh and do it the proper way."], ["Don't blame the doctrine now for the wrongdoing done by the people. The scholars already give the guidelines for tabligh member to follow including to provide enough for the family before leaving them. It's totally up to them to do right or wrong"], ["Pokok pangkalnya ialah wanting to be pious (which is good) but acting upon beliefs without proper knowledge (which is bad).\nIn the cases you\u2019ve mentioned, obv the man is majorly sinful for not doing the wajib first. Kalau bawa masuk mahkamah syariah mmg gg.\nThe solution? Better PAI education in national schools would be a good first step imo."], ["My roommate during uni years was part of a tabligh group and I found dozens of gay porn on his laptop \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23. I'm not even joking. I used his laptop a lot before I bought one my own and dude literally kept all his gay porn in the Downloads folder. I never told him this and he probably believes no one he knows knows he watches gay porn. Oh btw, he's married now."], ["There are some legit ones that has a daily job, like 2 of my office mates (one married, one single). A bit extreme that they would take 30-40 days leave from work, but they had to go for training again when returning for the job.\nI've encountered the bad ones, just the way you describe it, tinggalkan anak isteri dekat rumah without a real job to support it. How they survive without money? Mengharapkan belas kasihan daripada sesiapa yang mereka lawat untuk \"berdakwah\""], ["tabligh is the opposite of conservative extremism who seek control over others in the name of God; they leave and let live and trust that God provides"], ["I think you should post this in your fb profile. Most people here don't understand what tabligh is.", "I rather not hahaha facebook people can be condescending and harmful for my learning process of Islam"], ["Some Tabligh are illegal for preaching what are considered 'deviant' teachings in Malaysia. Especially those from the Indian Subcontinent which are either strongly influenced by Sufism or are strongly culturally Conservative (sexist) . However it's hard to enforce something that is spread and done from word by mouth with no paperwork.\nBecause of the strong Sufi or cultural Conservativeness, what they are doing and what they preach may not have any hadith or quran backing, but a case of \"this people did i like this for years, so they must be correct\".\nOne way I heard to tell if they are legit is if they act superior and always act as if they are righteous, they are sus. If they act humble and willing to accept they could be wrong, probably legit missionary.\nAgain just like Christian missionaries, the way they act and try to convert people differs wildly.\nwww.freemalaysiatoday.com/amp/category/nation/2020/03/18/understanding-the-tabligh-movement-beyond-covid-19/"], ["They are the type of people that i will completely ignore and hope they can use that \"free\" time doing something more productive, find more money for their family."], ["", "As per Rule 1, well-reasoned debate and criticism of religion is very welcome but one-liner talking points, jabs, borderline flaming etc. does not have such protection, and is bad for the community. Please treat this as a warning - if this continues we will be forced to take steps.", "Seriously.. Who hurt you???"], ["Tabligh is one of the nature of Nabi Muhammad SAW;\nhttps://dosen.perbanas.id/sidiq-amanah-tabligh-fathonah/?print=print\nAs Muslim, we are encouraged to follow our beloved Rasulullah's (sunnah) but it is not compulsory for all. Like other posters said, must provide family etc..\nIn short , Tabligh is legit.\nWith Tabligh, we Muslims can reach out others (Muslim and non-Muslim alike) and explain about Islam BUT Hidayah (Guidance) belongs solely to Allah SWT because we only human. All belongs to Allah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem."], ["Went to a house of a tabligh family. Their daughter is my friend's friend.\nThey have ... Almost a shrine ... Of tabligh faces in their house. A4 size pictures of faces. Like 11 of them. Creeps me out a little. Maybe in their faith, seeing their ustaz's faces gives them pahala? Idk.\nOther than that, they were nice to me.\nPersonally I find their faith sus, but I don't have enough sample size to make a definitive conclusion."]]}
+{"title": "MRT: Not sure about you guys, but i think KL's version is a lot more informative than SG's version.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x5yla/mrt_not_sure_about_you_guys_but_i_think_kls/", "num_comment": 71, "flairlabel": ["Mildly interesting"], "header": "", "comments": [["We used to be like the SG one once upon a time", "and SG's one used to be way less informative than the current design \ud83d\ude05", "I actually like the low tech LED indicator in older Sg MRT. Information is Clear, concise and less bullshit than the whatever they have right now", "Can confirm. Last time Singapore only had one bold colour line and nothing else.", "Further info for anyone interested", "the lrt still use that design i think?", "yup, still exists. some older trains you could find at LRT Kelana Jaya line are using non digital displays. eventually, they will be slowly phased out by newer trains somewhere Q3/Q4 this year as announced by Anthony Loke last year.", "We used to be the same because they are the supplier for the route map. Modern or new train use dynamic route map display, which is a fancy name for lcd, so the design can be changed easily by the operator.", "weyh unrelated but we have the same profile pic!!!!", "OO EM GEE\nWHY YOU COPY MEE"], ["One thing on our MRT that irks me is that the displays do not take into account on the train's direction. Hopefully they can fix that in next UI revamp.", "As in which direction the train is moving? Doesn\u2019t the train already do that with the arrows on the line and the display of the final station it\u2019s heading to whether it\u2019s Kwasa Damansara or Putrajaya Sentral (for the Putrajaya line)?", "For example:\nYou are on a KJ train at Bukit Bintang towards Kajang. You face the side of the opened doors which are on the train's right side. Kajang is to your left, but the diagram shows Kajang on your right.\nThis is the part that has bothered me since the line opened. Tokyo and Taipei have their metro lines to show the next stations relative to the train's direction since dot matrix display era, there's no reason our fancy LCD displays can't.", "Oh, you mean as in the metro lines don\u2019t tell us which side of the train we should prepare to exit through when we reach a certain station? That\u2019s interesting.\nI\u2019ve never gone on the Kajang line so it may be different there, but the Putrajaya line\u2019s trains sort of have something like that where the screens will tell you which side of the doors will open whenever we reach a station.\nI know this may sound really dumb but you can maybe try giving that suggestion on the official Malaysia Madani website. Me and my sister sent a suggestion there complaining about the very low feeder bus frequency of an MRT station we frequent and suggesting that it be raised (and we also sent some emails to Prasarana). We had no hope when we sent those suggestions and emails, but magically, the feeder bus frequency of that station got increased one week later.\nDid our suggestions or emails cause any of that? Well, there\u2019s no way to know, but you know, well, it doesn\u2019t hurt to try, eh?", "He\u2019s saying that the left and right diagrams shouldn\u2019t use the same image, they should be flipped to reflect the direction the train is going.", "It sounded like a minor nick pick. What's next? Need the train to tell everybody to breathe", "Agree with the UI, outside looks modern but inside still got that early 2010's vibe."], ["2 things i hate about the information screen is that once we are at a stop all information on the screen changes to tell people this side is closed or this side is opened and also when nearing a station it zooms into the circle of the stations and you cant see any stations before and after. Like bruh, I am at X stop, tell me what station it is and what the next one is. i dont need to be informed that i cant get through this closed door!\nAlso its not a massive nuance but come on. theres clearly better more informative design choices than this.\nLike maybe make 1/3rd of the screen the station name and make the map smaller so that all the information is still there. Alot of real estate could have been used to inform the commuter better.", "Sooo the fact that thy announce what station it is doesn\u2019t take into account? And you can actual look outside and fine a huge ass sign where u are la..\nMaybe just maybe wear one earphones when you near your station ? Come on man.", "This is a bad argument. Admittedly, the top comment feels kinda nitpicky, but if you\u2019re going to counter any argument with \u201cjust listen to the announcement and look tf outside at the station sign\u201d then why even have an info display at the first place? Just stick a printed map on top like the old school way and rely on announcements and \u201clook outside\u201d.", "not to mention accessibility issue (deaf people)", "Yes admittedly i weat headphones with ANC but that doesnt mean that they cant have a more informative information board can they? Also I do not want to hear what other people are doing or talking about and yes, even with ANC i can still hear the announcement but that doesn't mean I'll be focusing on it.\nAlso I sit in the first carriage and everytime I look out I can never see the name of the station because its never placed in eye shot of where I usually am at. As well as just looking at the design of the station tells me nothing of where I am at. Also also, if im facing away from the station, theres no sign telling me where I am at. Unlike the LRT where even looking away from the station they put sign board to tell me which station we have arrived and aslo having the signboard be in a position where I can see them no matter where I am at.\nHonestly it feels like they deisgned the MRT station around the digital sign boards and didnt take into account on more simpler but effective designs."], ["Both are dull if compared to China one where you can even see the expected ETA", "Ya but everything in China is in romanised pinyin instead of English due to CCP meddling. Instead of Flight Building Terminal 2, It\u2019s 2 Hao Hangzhanlou. Even the locals won\u2019t able to read it lol", "When do locals need to read pinyin?", "Exactly. So people were baffled why they changed from English to pinyin because locals can read Chinese just fine while tourists would struggle to read pinyin. And these are signs at major subways and airports in Beijing.\nIt was actually a CCP policy to stop relying on English after they closed down many English tuition centres nationwide.", "This was implemented long before the policy of shutting down English tuition center. Pinyin used Latin alphabet as well, so I don't see that as a problem for tourist.", "lol what? It was implemented during the Beijing Winter Games in 2022. The tuition centres closed down during the same year. Please don\u2019t simply say things you don\u2019t know.\nIf you think tourists can understand pinyin without learning Chinese, please tell me what is jingchaju? Guozhan? Nanfabowuyuan? Shijiajuang? Those are the exact signage on the streets and subways. Mind you, these are not names. This is like going to Thailand and instead of looking for direction to the floating market, you are going to follow the sign that says \u201ctalatnam\u201d instead.\nIt was heavily criticised by the Chinese people too.\nEDIT: Sino poster. No wonder.", "I lived in China for 10 years. Does one really need to understand the underlying Chinese in order to take a metro? Also, it is not true that they removed all the English. Example, \u5757\u7a84\u5df7\u5b50 is written as Kuanzaixiangzi Alleys. They don't used pinyin for such things like Terminal or Police station. Either you are making things up or you went to China in a parallel universe.", "I\u2019m making it up? Lol.\n<image>\nThis is literally the flight terminal lol.\nWho can understand hangzhanlou?\nPlease. You didn\u2019t even know it was only implemented recently and tried to correct me.", "Well obviously he's one of those..", "You sure you lived there for 10 years...?", "Wait...if so, how do ppl study pinyin? Since it's made up of ABC", "Do you know that at one point, Mao Zedong want to replace Chinese characters with roman alphabet as part of his Great Leap Forward. But He was dissuaded by Josef Stalin.", "Rare Stalin W if true.", "Let's be honest PIDS in East Asian systems are another level lol", "what's PID? pelvic inflammatory disease?", "Typo, I meant PIDS (passenger info display system)", "Yes, even in Malaysia, the PIDS on the MRT and the newer LRT trains are very good.", "China , really huh."], ["Would be great if Malaysia one include:\nETA for each station\nWhich exit leads to nearest transfer/stairs/escalator/lift/oku facility like in PRC\nBetter colour visual to immediately convey the direction of travel (idk this design language is messy and takes longer to identify with the tiny red arrow) like greying out the station that is already passed\nWhich cart is for women/has oku facility (or better yet, crowdedness indicator)\nOverall still has room for improvement. Better than PowerPoint style design la."], ["a number of notable differences here: The Malaysia one is only showing 1 line while SG incorporates many lines (the different colours at the bottom of the screen)\nalso our one seems to be spaced out like this to give room to show sponsors as well (Conlay, bottom right with the triangle logo)", "KL one also shows multiple lines. Legend on left side rather than bottom."], ["Nah, Singapore one looks much better. Then again this kind of views are subjective, both you and me.", "I remember there were complaints about sg one when the new one rolled out."], ["Both missing the info of which door is the closest to the nearest stairs to perform a transfer"], ["\u201cWelcum to shibuya\u201d"], ["Iirc few years ago MY use same like SG.\nTbh dont care much glad MY one upgrade and look more readable"], ["It literally shows the exact same info, in fact i like the SG one more since it's less janky", "advertisement in SG one prevents the full list of stations from being shown.\nand stations with longer names tend to get truncated.", "full list of stations from being shown\nWhy would you need that? The point of this screen is to show you where you're going. The Singapore one is clear where next station is Mayflower and you can see it from anywhere in the cabin.\nThe Malaysia one font is so small you have to walk up to it and see it. You don't know where you are at first glance. Are the white dots next station or previous station? Then only you see the tiny red arrows. Just waste of space and lazy design overall. If they're not gonna make it dynamic might as well use the old LED system why bother putting a screen there.", "Mrt1 is better, the font is bigger too", "the image fail to convey this, but the SG screen tend to transition quite often and only display this for a few short seconds. So if you miss the window, you have to wait until it cycles back to this screen.\nKL one, if i need that info, i can get it with a glance.", "The transition does not even block the screen.", "This just shows you simply ripped this image online and has not actually rode the Singapore MRT. The ads are not shown all the time on the TEL, not to mention that the newer trains on the other lines has a black background and no ads are shown at all.", "Go ahead and prove that these images were ripped online. i triple dare you. It is probably safe for me to even wager that i took the trains on both sides more often than you.\nat any point you look up at the screen, it is easier to obtain information via KL MRT than it is via SG MRT in general (not just TEL). SG's display is more form than it is function. Sure does look nice, but not very useful. I find myself having to stare up at the screen on SG side longer just to find out which station i'm heading towards, especially for the older lines like the red and green one.\nand TEL being the newer line, still doesn't have a very great design for the layout yet."], ["kj and sp/ampang line LRT still using the old one though.", "KJ has new PIDS in some trains though, which have similar features like those in the pic. If you are lucky you can get to see them.", "nothing wrong with it TBH. it's straight to the point and give you the info that you need (minus the ETA). With the added benefit of having zero potential to be ridden with advertisements."], ["both still too facking small"], ["Hope you feel better about yourselves. Seems like what this post is going for...", "there's also a whole host of problems with the metro system in KL that i would like to complain about, but that's a separate topic for another day."], ["Doesn\u2019t matter. 1:3.5"], ["KL is the OG"], ["Kekw"], ["What version is that? I rode last week but its different."], ["It also needs a catchy jingle every time a train is coming or leaving the station"], ["How far can you get lost in Singapore?"], ["Inferiority complex shouts when you are trying so hard to find the little wins"], ["Love it!"]]}
+{"title": "Rakyat Malaysia masih kurang peka kelebihan 5G", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xgxrt/rakyat_malaysia_masih_kurang_peka_kelebihan_5g/", "num_comment": 16, "flairlabel": ["Science/ Technology"], "header": "", "comments": [["I need to pay extra to enjoy 5G. Celcom n DiGi", "Fahmi: Telcos should not charge extra for for 5G..\nTelcos: lol whatever..\nCan Gobind just take over this job and reign in these greedy telco?"], ["Kata Benar: Tolong belikan 5G yang Mahel.", "5G service should be free since it was funded by tax payers money.\nUnifi previously asked me to pay extra for 5G. Now they giving it away for free.\nIn case of your telco provider charging you for 5G, you can:\nAsk them directly why need to pay since the ministry alrd announce that it shouldn't be charged.\nReport it to the ministry directly.", "5G is not free. Each telco have to pay few Billions ringgit to DNB to get the access to 5G for 10 years period. Each of them just paid RM200+ million few months ago."], ["I am still using a midrange phone from 2020 without 5G. I suppose 4G is sufficient for the time being."], ["They can't even provide stable 4g service and you want me to use 5g? :26558::26556:"], ["The fact that I can get speeds up to 300 Mbps on a 4G LTE network with acceptable latency is the reason why I still see 5G as a gimmick. Not worth the extra charge on my bill and the unnecessary battery drain on my phone.", "1) Battery drain is cause by 5G NSA mode(4G+5G). Mostly right now, the whole world using 5G NSA.\n2) 5G have bigger capacity. Maybe we can get 300Mbps speed in non-pack area, if we on pack public transport, mall, stadium, event, anywhere there would be a lot of people, 4G network suffer due to capacity limitation.\n3) Extra charge on 5G is another scam by mega telco CelcomDigi and Maxis. Umobile and Yes doesn't charge extra for 5G. All telco use DNB 5G infrastructure.\nBtw, I'm just sharing my thought.", "I can get 1Gbps on 5G. and since not much people use 5G, it can be extremely good especially in crowded area (like TRX Countdown Party)"], ["In some areas in Sabah and Sarawak 3G is barely a thing let alone 5G. Last time I was in Kalabakan I had to get another telco provider just to access 3G, because my Umobile plan skipped 3G entirely for HSDPA, 4G and 5G.", "Didn't 3G is deprecated and being taken down now days?", "In 90% of places they do. In remote places there weren\u2019t enough motivation to upgrade the towers (which were government built, btw)."], ["I still see lot of people thinking that we need to pay extra for 5G. Actually telco providers cant charge you extra for 5G since they're using DNB infra and it's basically funded by taxpayers money.\nThere're some greedy ass telco providers that still charge you in case you want to use 5G. What you can do is just confront them on this since the ministry already announce that 5G should be accessible to everyone for free, or you can just report that telco providers.\nsource", "Fahmi must be a bloody idiot then that he couldn\u2019t stop the telcos from profiting from 5G", "No. Telco still need to pay few billions ringgit spreaded over 10 years period. Each telco just paid RM233 million few month back."]]}
+{"title": "Ex-MP, NGO hit out at call to deport Rohingya", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x5o4f/exmp_ngo_hit_out_at_call_to_deport_rohingya/", "num_comment": 17, "flairlabel": ["Culture"], "header": "DAP\u2019s Charles Santiago and NSI executive director Adrian Pereira say many do not understand the plight of the community.", "comments": [["We either use 100% of our resources to aid as many poor Malaysian as possible.\nOR\nUse the same 100% to split to help migrant problem that created by their shit country and then ignore some poorest Malaysian to fend on their own.\nWe cant have both. Pick one.", "This comment would've been relevant years ago when our retarded bossku pergi berguling on the streets begging to let them in without the proper legal framework to integrate them, and our people bought it hook, line and sinker. Then they ceased to be politically useful, and were then demonized.\nWe are simply reaping what we sowed. He's right. \"Muslim solidarity\" my ass.", "Question is do we want to fix Bangladeshi problem or Malaysia problem?", "How about starting diplomatic channels with the three brothers alliance militias in Myanmar on possible return of their citizens once they finally liberate the nation.\nChina already made progress against the military Junta because of people trafficking so we should do the same."], ["There are estimated at around 150,000 documented Rohingyas in Malaysia, data from 2017; however, we should presume the actual is definitely higher than that in today and also consider the undocumented. Therefore, double of 150K isn't really far-fetched but a number we should really be concern about. [1]\nIt is not sustainable. We don't have enough resources from national security point of view to handle should they decided to initiate riots en masse. It is a reality. Outside of security and safety issues, there are social issues.\n[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20171019181215/http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41566561"], ["This is the real Rohingya. They're the descendants of Hui Chinese that assimilated into Myanmar Muslim population in Rakhine. The girl also look very Chinese. Some Hui Chinese can also be found among the Malays minority in Tanintharyi, Myanmar.\nThe one we recognized as Rohingya today is actually post colonial migrants from Bangladesh. I wouldn't be surprised if this people eventually outnumbered the Malay in Malaysia and start claiming they're the real Malays", "I wouldn't be surprised if this people eventually outnumbered the Malay in Malaysia and start claiming they're the real Malays\nNo such thing as \"real malays\". Malays are a social construct. If they meet the criteria of being a malay, then they will be one", "Well that's the thing now isn't it, in our country you can only be of a race if you fulfill certain legal obligations (look up the requirements of bumiputera).\nAnd laws can be changed. It's kinda nuts that one day you might not be considered a Malay even when your entire ancestry was Malay before this.\nTomorrow , the Mamaks might not be Malays anymore. Then it's those in Sarawak and Sabah. Then finally only those born in Peninsular Malaysia are Malays.", "If multi generational Chinese and Indian can be called pendatang, then it can happen to you too", "So are you implying that what the Junta said is true and we and the international community got it all wrong about Rohingya?", "No, if I understand correctly, those aren't Rohingya. They are Kaman(Kamein) ethnic, formally recognized by the Burmese government and classified as one of the seven ethnic groups composing the Rakhine national race. Whether they are of descendants of Hui Chinese, I have no knowledge; but the official position from the Burmese government is that Rohingya is postcolonial migrants from Chittagong in Bangladesh. It argues that a distinct precolonial Muslim population is recognized as Kaman, and that the Rohingya conflate their history with the history of Arakan Muslims in general to advance a separatist agenda. Which in 1946, Pakistani government calls for annexation of the Rakhine territory by Pakistan as well as forming an independent Islamic state, which definitely spook the Burmese government to this day. Imagine having an Islamic state next to your border.\nEver since the conflict started in the Rakhine state, not only the Rohingya but almost all of the Muslims including those with valid identify document that formally recognized by the government also suffered from harsh treatment. The Muslims in Rakhine call themselves Muslim Arakanese. To them, Rohingya is Bengali.\nIt is a demographic issue.", "I wouldn't be surprised if this people eventually outnumbered the Malay in Malaysia and start claiming they're the real Malays\nReal paranoia here, thank you. As if the refugees have any power, wealth or representation compared to say, expats who can afford to do the same.", "Touche, it's always the most powerless group who are demonized the most.", "they are doing the same thing to europe and united states to reduce number of whites by importing people from 3rd world shithole that breed like rabbits, i have to google who Charles Santiago is and it makes sense he wants more people that look like him in this country", "Charles Santiago has as much in common with Rohingyas as Mars and Earth sharing the name \"planet\".\nLike this is just tin foil hat conspiracy now.", ""], ["Make them into solider or fill the workforce require"]]}
+{"title": "Proton ends 2023 with fifth straight year of growth, best performance since 2012", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xctat/proton_ends_2023_with_fifth_straight_year_of/", "num_comment": 21, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "", "comments": [["Tun M: NOOOOOO you can't just sell my life building company to the CHINESE that makes me rich!\nNajib: Lmao", "Meanwhile Najib: Get lost, Geezer, you're already a trillionaire, what do you want? It's time for my Pocket"], ["thank you bosku:29091:", "Thank You Geely :29091:", "Thank you Malaysia :29091:"], ["No face. Have to sell and rely on Geely to run the company back to profitability. Still calling national brand?", "Who cares? Jaguar is owned by Tata. Mini is owned by BMW. Porsche and Lamborghini are owned by VW.", "Then own by China", "Jaguar/Mini/Porsche/Lambo are not GLC funded by the people. How you can make that kind of comparison I do not understand.\nWe are funding Proton with 30% import tax on imported cars because Mahathir said national brand can't compete in open market.", "The leap in logic with this one is astounding", "Does saying that make you feel smart?", "Nah, just calling out dumb people who says dumb things. Its a public service.", "Dumb people going around posting snarky comments thinking they are smart and doing a public service.\nWhat a sad life. I think you don't even realize how cringe your comments are.", "Yet they are upvoted and you are downvoted... funny, that.", "I thought the guy who believed shitposting was public service is bad but here comes another guy who thinks upvotes somehow means something.\nIs there a stupid contest ongoing?", "The downvotes mean that in general, people think your comments are cringe, not the other guy as you claim \ud83e\udd37\ud83c\udffd\u200d\u2642\ufe0f", "Without the spirit of \"bumiputers fir/st\" policies, none of these geely engines and designs will work.", "Ah yes, the magic behind our national brand. Well said."], ["Major reason is because the success of bumiputers policies/.", "To call it success is like public masturbation"]]}
+{"title": "Malaysia denials abound as rumours of fresh political coup do the rounds - SCMP", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x3lub/malaysia_denials_abound_as_rumours_of_fresh/", "num_comment": 10, "flairlabel": ["Politics"], "header": "", "comments": [["me, waiting for the next OYO Hotel Move:", "Hahaha . Like they are willing to be seen in that Hotel chain group.\nI think next will be Paris Move or Geneva Move or somewhere more atas. Who knows, maybe Epstein Island Move?"], ["SCMP. Misreporting MM's self resignation, etc. :26563:"], ["Penyu: But I wasn't even invited!", "If so, he was probably somewhere busy potong kek."], ["Screencap of the article\n<image>", "Might wanna hide your emails.", "Nice catch", "Tag me to reapprove after you have censored your email", "Reapprove please, edit is done. Thanks."]]}
+{"title": "Najib allegedly received US$681 mil to influence GE13 votes, court told", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x437y/najib_allegedly_received_us681_mil_to_influence/", "num_comment": 3, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Najib fans:", "rinduzamannajib", "\"If you ignore everything bad about Najib, he's actually a good person\"\nYeah I'm pretty sure Kim Jong Ill is also a decent person if you conveniently ignore the bad stuff about him."]]}
+{"title": "Sad to see so much trashes on the floor. (Photo taken after new year event)", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xoxxq/sad_to_see_so_much_trashes_on_the_floor_photo/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Malaysian should start to learn throwing their trashes probably.", "comments": [["/u/Martin_Leong25", "Sapa panggil aku pada masa tiga pagi?"], ["malding rn"], ["Reminded me of an incident.\nOne of my friend decided to do good by cleaning up the beach. Then one asshole yelled my friend to clean a spot he want to sit down.\nHe ignored and resume cleaning his area. Then the guy approach my friend called him biadap, say why you didnt do you job, etc. He said he is not working , he is volunteering.\nThe dude still don't want give up, say why can't he come over and clean up \"his place\" since he is cleaning up anyways. My friend said he is not obliged to clean for him, ask him to clean himself.\nThe commotion caused some police officer to come and checked and luckily everything ended peacefully.\nSome Malaysian are really entitled."], ["Why not provide some bins ?"]]}
+{"title": "Sanusi claims Dubai Move a decoy, calls it 'Chow Kit Move' instead", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xl56x/sanusi_claims_dubai_move_a_decoy_calls_it_chow/", "num_comment": 4, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["For the benefit of those running into a paywall\nKedah Menteri Besar Muhammad Sanusi Md Nor has confirmed the existence of a plot by the opposition to topple the government.\nHowever, instead of it being labelled the Dubai Move - as the meeting had allegedly taken place in Dubai - he called it the \u201cChow Kit Move\u201d.\n\u201cPeople are labelling (the plot as) the Dubai Move, but it\u2019s really the Chow Kit Move because it was discussed in Kuala Lumpur.\n\u201cI think Dubai was just a dummy (decoy) because they (the alleged conspirators) went to Dubai. Lots of people go to Dubai,\u201d he said during a press conference today.\nSanusi declined to reveal further information regarding the plot, however, he hinted at other movements such as the \u201cBera Move\u201d and \u201cSembrong Move\u201d.\nHe quickly followed it with: \u201cIt\u2019s just a joke to make people laugh. But it (change of support) can be done, in line with the Constitution.\u201d\nBera is former prime minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob\u2019s parliamentary seat and the Sembrong MP is former defence minister Hishammuddin Hussein.\nIsmail Sabri has denied involvement or knowledge of the Dubai Move.\n\u2019Govt will fall\u2019\nSanusi was convinced that the administration would fall sooner rather than later.\n\u201cIt won\u2019t be five years (one term) before they topple. It may happen this year, even this month,\u201d he said.\nHe further asserted that the plot was constitutional based on the loopholes in the anti-hopping law.\n\"I think whatever (move) that is permitted by the Constitution, (it) should be allowed to take place. Anything unconstitutional should not.\n\u201cIt was constitutional for the five MPs to pledge support (to Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim). Their camp (government) was so excited and had no issues,\" he said, referring to the Bersatu lawmakers who announced their backing for Anwar late last year.\n\"If they (the Madani government) regarded the support from the five MPs (from PN) as something constitutional based on democratic principle, any move in return should be regarded as the same,\u201d he added.", "For context to why the opposition is rushing into plotting a coup, below is a post by a well-connected political blogger Liyana Marzuki\nWITCH HUNT\nLittle birds in high places sudah sampaikan. There will be a reckoning to the failed \u201cLangkah Dubai\u201d. We will expect these cases in these few months:\nKes kontrak Petronas yang mengayakan anak bekas PM dengan cepat. Jadi Billionaire segera, tanpa perlu banyak buat apa2. Mereka akan lihat isu salahguna kuasa. Daddy katanya sudah menggelabah jua.\nKes keluarga bekas Menteri Kewangan. Bagaimana isteri dan anak2 beliau punya harta punya banyak walaupun masih remaja? Ada geng UMNO yang claim itu semua harta UMNO sebenarnya. Disailang untuk kayakan keluarga dia.\nAda seorang bekas Menteri Besar, yang dulu mukanya samar2. Punya akaun luar negara dikatakan sampai beratus juta. Atas nama sendiri. Kontraktor beri. Dia ni pun boleh tahan seni politik, walau digelar oleh lawan dan kawan sebagai sembur**, masih survive hingga kini. Kehidupan keluarga pun mewah sekali. Ada juga aim nak jadi Perdana Menteri.\nKes Bekas PM dan pegawai2 nya. Dikhabarkan menyakau dana RM700 juta. Masa negara tengah susah, lebih setengah bilion dicampak untuk media dan billboard entah apa2. Makanya wajar disiasat juga.\nKes bekas Menteri Pertahanan, yang jual tanah negara bawah harga pasaran. Diborong2 untuk suku sakat. Banyak tanah strategik yang tergadai, sampai MINDEF boleh jadi pokai. Pemimpin yang ini, dari dulu diketahui jenis baling batu sembunyi tangan. Tapi selalunya menikus kalau berdepan. Menurut kata Otai.\nApa kita belajar dalam ini gambar?\nSiapa pun naik berkuasa, akan guna kuasa untuk benam lawan mereka. PM 22 tahun 22 bulan notorious untuk itu. Protege dia pun ikut sama. PM 18 bulan pun sama juga. Sekarang PM yang ada contohi mereka \ud83d\ude05\nGame2 perang level kayangan ini, dah jadi beyond us. Sebab mereka sahaja yang tahu rahsia buruk masing2. Akan digunakan bila kena masa dan tempat. Agar kuasa tak tergugat.\nPost PRU14, baru rakyat terbanyak dapat saksikan. Jerung pun ditangkap dan dilokap. Kalau dulu ikan bilis saja yang kena. Sekarang orang2 kayangan yang dulu untouchable, harus disiasat kalau betul sakau harta negara. Ntah2 gelaran \u201cKleptokrat\u201d itu bukan hanya terpakai untuk sorang saja. Kalau dikongsi ramai, rakyat berhak tahu.\nDan terakhir, witch hunt ini tidak akan berakhir di sini. Ia pusingan yang tidak akan berhenti. Kalau Kerajaan yang ada tumbang nanti, nescaya mereka pula yang akan disiasat nanti. The never ending story.\nBagi kita yang atas pagar, doa kita sama. Siapa saja yang merompak harta negara, tak kira dari parti mana, harus dihukum sewajarnya. Kerana itu patutnya dana yang kita wariskan untuk anak cucu kita.\nMoga kebenaran tertegak untuk Malaysia dan rakyatnya.\nSalam hormat, Liyana Marzuki\nhttps://www.facebook.com/share/p/wSc9prWKfnd1p9uJ/?mibextid=d6eG65"], ["Anwar move your chess now .\nGuess the mastermind is shown"], ["He reminds me of Johnny Somali...\nAnyway, we all know Sabri, Mahiaddin, Mahathir are seeking every opportunity to make a come back as PM, and Hishamuddin is eye the PMO for a long time now, and this turd Sanusi also want to be viewed as the potential candidates. We know, and of course they are crafting."]]}
+{"title": "Any jobs gives your RM30k", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xh0ic/any_jobs_gives_your_rm30k/", "num_comment": 132, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "Out of curiosity I am doing some sort of survey here to find out what are the jobs which gives you >RM 30k per month gross salary in Malaysia as an employee at a company.\nwhich industry\nwhich functions/ expertise ?\nstress level? 1-10\nwork life balance? 1-10\nThanks folks!", "comments": [["I\u2019m currently working with recruiters for jobs and also applying to jobs in the RM15,000 - RM20,000 range. I\u2019ve been seeing quite a lot of RM20,000 jobs recently. I suspect it\u2019s because of the USD conversion rates. One step higher will be Regional or APAC roles where they would easily be earning USD10,000 to USD15,000 with lots of sweet perks.\nIn terms of industries, right now there\u2019s a boom to rush over to SEA as we are the next big middle + upper class. A lot of US and Europeans agencies moving over here to expand. Ad, marketing, consulting, data management, architecture.\nThen for commerce, I keep seeing high paying jobs in the e-commerce space. Alibaba group, TikTok and Temu + other players have been fighting it out for the SEA market to expect to see lots of hires on that front.\nFintech is booming. This is probably the next industry. Digital banks, payment solutions, cashless, B2B fintech provider. Wait till Singapore builds the framework by this year for the region and anyone working in that line will be minting cash.\nThere\u2019s also an emergence of Web3.0 and blockchain X any industry in Malaysia and in the region. Web3.0 for marketing, event management, insurance, banks, the list can go on and on.\nFood security, agritech will be the most lucrative industry the next 20 years. Food security has now met AI, its new best friend. Expect to see a revolution in that field. I recently interviewed for a job to work remotely in that line, the starting pay is RM25,000 with bonuses and equity and lots of perks.\nI know full-stack developers who are working remotely and earning more than RM30,000 per month. Same goes for AI centric engineers.\nRecruitment is a wild, profitable game all of a sudden with AI and the leap has been tremendous. SEA will be the largest job and labour marketplace over the next 15 years. There are roles with recent movers and shakers in this industry that\u2019s paying in USD.\nIn terms of work-life balance, unless you are in a C-level position in a large established company (which is a rare position), most of the other roles will be relatively heavier on the workload. And so it should be. I\u2019m willing to work my ass off for 5 to 10 years earning >USD10,000 per month and then \u201cretiring\u201d as a consultant or specialist in that field then take it easy after a certain age.", "Very insightful- thanks for your sharing. \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffc\ud83d\udc4d\ud83c\udffb"], ["My guess is really senior/high-level positions. Then again r/malaysia seems to be frequented mostly by very rich people and millionnaires so I, as a relatively poor person, am probably not the right one to answer.", "Could serve as career aspirations.. \ud83d\ude03"], ["Well i lost 30k to trading monthly", "Found the wsb user", "r/BursaBets*"], ["In Msia - C-level. But im sure thrs a bunch of remote workers (think Web3 companies) getting USD (>$6.4K) while being based in Msia.. thats easily the rate for a Senior Associate/Manager onwards in a Global role.", "$6.4K doesn\u2019t have to be senior associate or manager, can be just a programmer working remotely"], ["Operations director for IT. Tech industry Very stress during outage, major incident. Other times okok la Work life balance : Pros, Can do whatever you want whenever you want. Cons, your work 15 hours a day. In between you can go for a run, pay bills etc."], ["Have you tried checking the Annual Returns/Reports of companies listed in Bursa? There\u2019s a segment which sets out the renumeration bands of Key Senior Management (KSM) which should awnser your question.", "Good point\u2026 will check that too!\ud83d\udc4d\ud83c\udffb"], ["30k is generally going to be a C-level (COO, CFO, CEO) at a sizable local public listed company.\nIf you're a non c-level that wants to earn that much, you pretty much need to be a pillar / segment expert within a company in the sense that if you walk, the company loses a irreplaceable resource.\nSome startups offer pretty big buck. MNCs as well .\nWork life balance? Depends - at that level you're going to be dictating your own work schedule to some extent so no one is going to tell you to clock into the office at 9am. At the same time sometimes the survival of entire projects, or even the company, is going to rest on your shoulders. So it's a different kind of stress", "30k is at the most head of department only in a listed co. C-level is at least around 50k and above depending on size of company.", "Bigger companies will pay their C-levels more, obviously. Meanwhile, smaller ones can have their C levels and EDs having a salary in the 20-30k range", "My boss\u2019s (HOD) salary is around 30k. Im guessing a C-level\u2019s salary will be much higher than 30k. I do know that my company\u2019s CEO\u2019s annual salary is around 1mil.", "No. C level at most MNC will be above 50k, with CEOs easily 6 figures depending on company/industry\n30k would be positions like marketing/sales head", "I said LOCAL\nI also said that MNCs will pay more.", "No need to be defensive. I worked at a local public listed company before. My CEO salary was 70k. You are way off as many have already pointed out", "Yeah at certain size, listed or not, 30-50k is basically the bare minimum. For listed companies, the amount can go way higher because they have stock options and such.\nHeck, at times non-listed companies can go crazy with their salaries more than listed ones because there's no public scrutiny.", "I don\u2019t think so - average ceo salary in malaysia is stated to be -approx 290k per annum which translates to 24k per month. That\u2019s probably on the low side but that\u2019s what the stats say. And now I got people pointing out \u201coh mnc pays more\u201d just for the sake of arguing when I specified I was talking about local companies.\nOf course the 5-10 billion market cap public listed cos will pay higher. But how many of them are there ? They represent the top 10 per cent of public cos in Malaysia\nhttps://www.payscale.com/research/MY/Job=Chief_Executive_Officer_(CEO)/Salary", "I can also quote a different site reporting the average CEO salaries to be approx RM50k.\nhttps://www.erieri.com/salary/job/ceo/malaysia#:~:text=Salary%20Recap-,The%20average%20pay%20for%20a%20CEO%20is%20MYR%20554%2C927%20a,of%20education%20for%20a%20CEO.\nAnd here are the list of top CEO salaries of some of the most well known local listed companies that are not MNCs.\n<image>\nNo need to be defensive. CEO salaries of public listed companies are all publicly available so you can search for specific companies if you want. Let\u2019s all learn from our mistakes.", "not sure why he is being so defensive...maybe he cant comprehend salaries that high", "Yeah not sure why he is doubling down when so many have pointed out his ignorance. CEOs earn crazy amounts of money is not news. Perhaps he is a fresh grad or work in some stingy company so cannot comprehend those numbers.", "My friend , you are quoting companies that are banks and huge conglomerates like Sime Darby that and have market caps of upwards of 10billion. Of course they are going to have much higher salaries .", "Are you shifting the goal post? You specifically said LOCAL. I give you local.\nI also give you the Malaysian average to supplement the data.\nAnd since you mention public listed. Their salaries are all available publicly in their annual reports. You can search it up.", "Ok good source . Thank you. I have a source for my statement , you have a source for your statement. Anyway I\u2019ve said all I really want to say, despite your condescending tone \u201cof admitting mistake\u201d .", "It is not about your source my source. You proclaimed to know the average for the CEOs of local listed companies when it is clearly in the wrong ballpark.\nAs i said, these are publicly available data from the SC. A new CEO with 1-3 years of experience is already earning 25k with the average salary being 42k. Numbers were from 2018 and no doubt would have increased since then\n<image>", "I'm not even from malaysia and I downvote you for being so defensive. HAH.", "No need to be defensive, just pointing out that your figures are abit on the low side. Do you consider Maxis local? well, Morten as CEO was over a million monthly . Take a look at the annual reports of GLCs like Khazanah, TH, ...thier CEOs get over 5mil a year...and they are LOCAL\nOff the top of my head, all LOCAL banks C level will be above 50k. Same with conglomnerates like Sime etc", "Maybe the ambiguity of \u2018sizable\u2019 is confusing. I meant middling . Not small , not big , middle of the pack. If you take the largest local companies like maxis (telco by nature has huge government spending and Infra involved) then you will get your big 50k salaries . For the middle of the pack companies then you\u2019re looking at a more modest figure", "there's small listed co like binasat with only RM100m market cap. (not maybank which is 1000x larger) where the CEO gets 400k per annum, and the founder gets 1m.\nor vsolar, with market cap of only RM21m,\nVsolar Group Berhad's CEO Compensation With The Industry. At the time of writing, our data shows that Vsolar Group Berhad has a market capitalization of RM21m, and reported total annual CEO compensation of RM344k for the year to June 2023"], ["Senior Solution Architect or Tech Lead\nSource: that's my role", "They pay that much in Malaysia? Let me guess. AWS? BTW, what does solution architect do? I heard it's glorified customer engineer - don't hurt me, that's just what I read online.", "Man id love to be a glorified customer engineer if can pull in 30k lol", "I'm curious about this too. I just started learning to get those AWS certifications on a whim but if they actually pay a lot, I'm even more motivated.", "Multiple companies are capable of paying this other than AWS, Microsoft or Google.\nFor my personal experience, Indonesian Big MNC, Fintech startup, local Telco to some extent.\nThese 3 are the only ones that managed to offer me 30K at least after I resigned from Singapore.\nAnd yes, Solution Architect is a glorified customer engineer, but the pay is high because we are part of the Sales force that brings money to the company.\nWhile other typical IT roles are defined as 'cost' center, Solution Architect is part of 'profit' center. Some companies even offer commissions for every successfully PO/Project\nThe only struggle is you need to meet a lot of clients and mingle around. As an introvert, it still tiresome doing this eventhough I have been a Solution Architect for 20+ years.\nBut the money is good, so...", "Thanks for taking time to share with us your experience! It IS good money.\nAs an introvert, I feel exhausted just thinking about meeting clients.", "<image>\nI get you\nOther option is to be a Tech Lead / AI Engineer / Rockstar Software Engineer\nBut knowledge needs to be very deep la", "I can see that with Senior Solution Architect, but even with Tech Lead? Dayumnn", "In my company, tech lead holds higher authority than architect", "Need to be very power one, not cap ayam Tech Lead", "died at cap ayam TL", "What's the size of your company? What's your background? MNC, startup? Any certifications that you would recommend to help? Ahh so many questions!\nCurious to hear, as I'm a software dev wanting to break into the solutions architect role", "Is this more into IT functions/ expertise? how is your work scope like.. do you need to lead a team? Or more like expertise in bringing solutions.", "At a high level, my job is to assist Sales person with whatever technical discussion that came between them and client. From there, I need to generate a high-level solution, provide costing, liaise with delivery team on the scope of the project. Once the project is won, things will be handover to the post-sales / delivery team.\nSeems simple on paper, but you need to really mingle around with others because you are the glue that connect everything together especially at pre-project phase. People will see you as an expert (even if you are not) so there will be a lot of things that you need to lead officially (and most of the time unofficially)", "\u2026 and also to consider customers compliance requirements when dealing with their data during the technical discussion and the challenge to come out with POCs to avoid legal nightmares.\nI had a good laugh at glorified \u201ccustomer engineers\u201d. Never had that kind of perspective!\nAnyway I can confirm an experienced SA can get >30k. I am one of them."], ["Doctor. A good doctor can earn RM50k a month, maybe more. But no life. Work worse than foreign worker, longer hours than them,", "Unless they had scholarships, they gonna spend many years of their life paying student loans debt, which are far higher than other fields. Ontop of having to buy a car and house during or after the almost 10 years of medical training.", "Can do it one.", "yes.. but in specific setting only. (consultant, private with decades of experience). So by then already late 40-50s at the earliest. Very high rate of burnout/ depression and low compensation at least for the first 20 years. My safety officer sibling with 2 months? training earning double my pay\u2026", "\u201cDoctor\u201d is too vague.\nYou need to be some kind of specialist or surgeon for critical organs in order to earn 50k+ a month.\nYour clinic doctor is only barely earning 10% of that.", "Specialist in a private hospital specifically. Or a MoH nephro doing visits to private dialysis centers. One I know is making 60k per month from that alone. Those who own their own dialysis centers will probably get more.", "Agree. Doctor / surgeon/ specialist in medicine field work with lotsa heart for the people. Deserve the pay. \ud83d\udcb0"], ["vp and svps in international banks. and it isn\u2019t as atas a position as it sounds, there\u2019s a fair few in most departments including support staff"], ["1) Digital marketing (agency side)\n2) Regional Director with a background in creative\n3) Stress level - seasonal, but generally fluctuates between 5-11 (yes, 11 is NOT a typo, there are days when I ask myself why am I still here lol)\n4) Work-life balance - also seasonal, in the past year alone, I've had weeks where the actual work in a day is done within 2 hours, but I've also had months where I don't leave the office / go offline until 7am (NOT a typo as well, I DO mean 7am), so I guess that's between what, 1-15? \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23"], ["Menteri kot", "Yup RM50k per month for Minister. Excluding under the table"], ["I'm not sure about it but underwater welders should earn a lot too.\nFrom what I read before, for a job that has the highest mortality rate (15%) it should earn these professionals big money.\nAlso, they tend to work in total darkness, one guy on Reddit shared he doesn't use lights because big sharks are often swimming nearby. He rather not see what is around him so he can focus better on his task. And spending days or weeks underwater to decompress is also another thing.", "Well that's fucking terrifying.", "Yup. It's the stuff of nightmares.\nImagine doing your work in total darkness but with short bursts of light from you welding. Then out, you felt something solid brushing against your body.\nI would crapped my pants and wish I was in my mom's belly right there and then!"], ["Oil and gas... better start now", "what about oil rigs"], ["Not me, but my friend.\nManagement consulting after 5 years experience Stress level 100/10 Work life balance - lol what"], ["There's one i know for sure. Big 4 Audit Partner. Circa RM400-500k per annum for junior partners, senior partners (>10 year partner) goes to 1m-2m. The step below them, audit directors are at the RM250-300k per annum range. Needs about 15 years of experience to reach the partner level, and also all the relevant people+technical+cya skills.\nStress is high, and work life balance doesn't exist during certain periods of the year.\nSo far in my peer group, no one reached it yet, though a few are in the director level. I myself couldn't take the stress so I went into the SME side where life is a lot more bearable.", "Just joined 1 of the big 4, no work life balance\u2026 not planning to stay for long lol", "It's a meat grinder. If you can take it, it's pretty good. If you can't, then uh, better run and find something else. :)"], ["Job : Menteri Experince : Pandai cakap Stress : mana Stress Work life balance : boleh main golf, or fly to dubai and bill to gov"], ["If you want to make 30k, your stress management must be good and there\u2019s no such thing as work life balance. The money comes with a lot of responsibilities and sometimes things happen and you show up.\nBut if you\u2019re in a company with reasonable people, generally you can chill out a bit when things are not hectic, and have a lotta fun solving problems and making a good living.", "Or just work for an international company in oil and gas or banking and have about 20 years experience", "I agree. To a certain point, even if you are making so much $$ but lose out health or constantly at stress. It doesn\u2019t justify anymore what you are getting."], ["I'm working for a tech MNC, senior/architect level onwards already can get close to 30k.", "What kind of tech?", "Data logging, security and observability."], ["I\u2019m not there at 30k yet, but I\u2019m about 25k including my monthly performance payouts. If I continue this route, should be able to hit 30k\nIndustry : Travel Tech\nFunctions : account management - essentially I manage a team that does account management across APAC.\nStress level : 4-6 nothing too crazy at the moment as I know how to manage my work\nWork life balance : 8-10. I work about 4-6 hours per day sometimes less than 3 if nothing much going on. So yeah pretty happy.", "What is travel tech hope u don\u2019t mind me asking", "It\u2019s travel platforms like accommodations, activities and etc", "Is it Axoxa", "That\u2019s awesome \ud83e\udd79\u2026 the function more towards sales or IT tech related?", "More towards sales of services and products."], ["does furry porn artist can? I usually earned 3-7k usd monthly.", "Can I check out your art? DM me.", "I can but preview only. the crop one version.", "Bro asking for free furry nudes lol", "ayy fellow usd earner!", "Ah, the famous tree writer has appeared. I was just reading your story last night.", "I've always been around :)", "Unfortunately no, because it sounds like you're self employed.", "curious but that's generally how many pieces per month? is that your full time gig?", "Now I'm 50/50 on encouraging my son to pursue art since he's not really interested in the sciences lmao"], ["C-Level and startups."], ["Head of Department at bank or large MNC, or C level at normal public listed companies"], ["Senior Vice President or Associate Director roles in revenue generating departments in banking and finance are RM30k and upwards"], ["I once hired a compliance director for a foreign bank (was a recruiter). RM52k with car + free flow petrol, house loan support, health insurance coverage for whole family (spouse and children), and many other benefits I can't remember.\nMost high-5 figures (20k++) are C-levels and skill-specific directors. Mainly CFOs, and tech directors are most highly paid and on high demand.\nOf course you need the specific knowledge and experience to do the job. Stress level as they shared with me is through the roof."], ["pilot in sg"], ["If you're female, have the looks and somewhat bodacious, become OnlyFans model. /s\nWork life balance is 10/10, stress level depends on how you view your career. The pay is more than RM30K from what I gather, even if you are at the lower end [1].\n[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-onlyfans-creators-make-real-examples-2023-1"], ["Director in the gomen makes that much"], ["Probably not the answer you\u2019re looking for but my friends who work for the illegal side of things have no problem earning such an amount or even more on a weekly basis, let alone monthly basis especially when football/World Cup season comes along. But yeah. Don\u2019t go down that route. Easy come, easy go."], ["As boring as it sounds, it's most probably IT industry. Talented engineers or senior managers usually earns that high or higher. It's an easy job but risks are far higher, these are no average bank worker.\nW/L balance depends, if they pay that good, they can afford to treat their employees like actual human being.\nI always find it very odd, why do kids in school never want to dream becoming an IT specialist? Rather than choosing harder and low paying jobs like engineers or doctors. For some reason I got laughed alot at school for that.", "Grass is always greener on the other side. To earn even above 10k, you should work in KL / Selangor and be at the top 10% of IT professional. To get above that it get more and more difficult. Dont believe all the stuff that you read online.", "KL / Selangor\nHey don't forget Penang, silicon hub. Kulim is just next door as the automotive hub.\n10% of IT professional.\nNot sure, usually by 30 we would expect people in the field to earn their first 10k salary, otherwise we'd make fun of them lmao. They maybe some that earns less, maybe banking engineers but with higher benefits etc.\nOccasionally I'll see low-performers, almost 35 in age, wonder why we pay the person 6k but then the person works like shit. No wonder.", "these days kids all wanna be coders, streamers because $$$", "Coders are fine, they earn alot if they can apply the knowledge.\nWhat I shared was during my time, the cases today is beyond what I expected from the younger generations. Seriously a Tik Tok'er as a full time job? Everyday making cringe content."], ["Nice one LHDN...."], ["What is your skillset and qualifications?"], ["Politician"], ["The corporate should be C-level above, Business wise become owner, otherwise Sales job such as pharmaceutical, Insurance etc", "actually in some co, GM level also can get d.\nIn 2018, the company terminated the services of more than 20 management employees, including the appellants, with the aim of improving effectiveness and efficiency.\nAccording to the facts of the case, Au was a senior general manager prior to her termination and her last drawn monthly salary was RM44,151.00.\nLim was an administration executive and her last drawn monthly salary was RM8,105.00 while Wong, whose last post was as general manager, drew a monthly salary of RM22,941.00.\nhttps://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2023/10/09/companys-retrenchment-of-3-management-staff-valid-rules-appeals-court/"], ["Politician /s"], ["Usually upper management/low tier C-levels as well as those senior in the ICT industry will earn at least RM30k."], ["Cough minister cough....."], ["Won't add in MPs and such since their allowances can be annoying to add in, might be above RM30k not sure. But our ministers, ydp dewan negara and dewan rakyat speaker definitely make more than that monthly. Maybe even deputy ministers.\nYdp dewan negara and dewan rakyat speaker basic salary is already RM31k/month last time they raised it. Our ministers and pm make around 14-22k per month basic salary. Then they have cabinet minister allowance, add in MP salary of RM16k. Plus all the allowances for entertainment, housing, maid, driver, travelling etc etc."], ["MD at an MNC. IT."], ["Sultan, stress level = ?"], ["** 1-10 , I assume 1 is the best and 10 is worse as you dint clarify which is which haha.\nE-commerce (ACG industry)\nLearn whatever is needed, Jack of all trade, master of none, in other word, ROJAK.\nStress Level (Current: 2, Peak: 7)\nW/L Bal. (Current: 5, Peak: 10)\nCurrently ~RM100k p/m nett (after ~25% to LHDN), peak was at least doubled, but then took a step back to spend time with my parent which recently seen their health detroit, also to try and (hopefully) have a better w/l bal. as it is a one man team.\nGood luck with ur survey pals!", "Noob here. But what is ACG industry?"], ["Saw someone's dad got rm60k per month working as pilot in Qatar Airlines when i was still in school"], ["Trying to earn ringgit at 30k is an old outdated way of doing it.\nIt\u2019s far easier to earn 10k USD than it is 30k MYR. Think about it."], ["A lot of professionals make 30k or more Of course you'd be having a lot of responsibilities. Responsibilities could be stressful for some."], ["Specialist (i mean really niche skill set) role in any high paying business/industry, i.e., OnG, Medical, Tech"]]}
+{"title": "From Tranquility to Chaos", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xd7qr/from_tranquility_to_chaos/", "num_comment": 11, "flairlabel": [], "header": "I have resided in Bandar Sg Long for over two decades, enjoying its once tranquil atmosphere. However, the current situation has taken a chaotic turn. Departing from my house between 5:45 am to 6:00 am has become necessary, as any delay poses the risk of significant delays in leaving Sg Long area itself due to prolonged traffic. Even during the earlier days when UTAR was present, the situation was not as bad as now. Could this be because of excessive development here in Sg Long (doesn't look like that to me), or perhaps the PM has a house here? Great place nevertheless.", "comments": [["every town felt like a satellite city now with everyone from every other negeri came and work here. even remembering live in puchong early 00's compared to now was like comparing heaven and hell. I rather stay indoor most of the time now."], ["The main issue is bad car centric design. I'm baffled by the lack of sidewalks connecting those condominiums to the university. I still remember watching my coursemates walking by the side of the busy roads, or me having to drive despite living only 800m away from the university, because it's just so uncomfortable to walk.\nI remember circling round and round just to find parking, and I assume the majority of the cars there are just people circling around finding parking.\nIt's bad, imagine how many cars could be taken off the road if there's proper walking path."], ["It's because public transport is sadly neglected. I hate Jibby/Najib Razak as much as the next city fella but tell you what, he was the only who gave 2 shits about logistics.", "Hes the only prime minister who built public transit system. And he gain backlash from the automotive corpos, altho its shit its better than nothing", "I'm still sour the high speed rail was cancelled.", "that was a total disaster, if only they continue it under different contract", "Help me understand why it's a disaster. I don't know the specifics, I was a bit young then, and I only focused on a more connected Asia."], ["The traffic was already bad 10 years ago. The main issue is the terrible access to the highways. There are multiple traffic lights with long waiting times if you wanna get out of Sg Long. It is a good place to live if you don't go out of the town often and also if you could ignore the honking. I think the drivers there like to honk probably because of the horrible traffic."], ["there\u2019s literally three exits from Sg Long to KL iinm - the main road that passes though BMC, the other road that takes you behind the batu 11 toll and now the back road that brings you to silk highway. considering how densely populated the place is jams would be expected right?"], ["Might be due to the prosperity of Cheras Traders Square nearby these recent years, so more people willing to occupy areas nearby since Sungai Long is like a 10 minutes drive away.\nAll I can say is the KL-Kajang main highway is a blessing to drive on public holidays."], ["And aside from other reasons mentioned here, I think the growing number of personal cars could also be a contributing factor"]]}
+{"title": "Ekonomi jadi fokus utama kerajaan tahun ini", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xedn8/ekonomi_jadi_fokus_utama_kerajaan_tahun_ini/", "num_comment": 9, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "\ud83e\udd32\ud83e\udd32\ud83e\udd32\ud83e\udd32\nMenteri Komunikasi yang juga jurucakap Kerajaan Perpaduan, Fahmi Fadzil berkata, keutamaan kerajaan adalah mendorong pelabur tempatan dan luar negara untuk melabur di Malaysia sekali gus merancakkan pertumbuhan ekonomi negara.\n\u201cPerdana Menteri telah memberi beberapa pandangan mengenai fungsi dimainkan Syarikat Pelaburan Berkaitan Kerajaan (GLIC) dan ini penting bukan hanya untuk merancakkan pertumbuhan ekonomi dalam negara tapi ada sedikit penyelarasan perlu dilakukan.\n\u201cIni kerana banyak GLIC mempunyai pelaburan di luar negara.\n\u201cJadi ada beberapa penekanan diberikan Perdana Menteri yang kita lihat penyelarasan tahun ini,\u201d katanya pada sidang media di sini hari ini.\nJelasnya, antara perkara yang ditegaskan Perdana Menteri adalah memudah cara dan mempercepat proses kelulusan kerana jumlah pelaburan yang berhasrat untuk melabur ke Malaysia adalah sangat besar mencecah ratusan bilion ringgit", "comments": [["coming from this particular minister, I\u2019m gonna take whatever he says with a bucket of rock salt", "as a spokesperson, this guy is fine.\nAs a minister for his own portfolio , thats where I drew the line .", "Have some faith in PMX he is Malaysia savior after all", "Our very own Nelson Mandela :29091::29091::29091:"], ["FDI can be misleading. I want to hear what the second finance minister, Amir Hamzah (ex-EPF ceo), has to say on 2024 economy trajectory and what the govt plans to do."], ["Tahun lepas focus apa bodoh"], ["Wait. You mean it was not the focus tahun lepas????"], ["Focus put in more tax and remove more subsidy lar. Apa susah? Rakyat susah je"], ["Hahahahaha"]]}
+{"title": "Perodua: \"Kami menawarkan pilihan untuk membeli semula kereta berkenaan\"", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xmbzy/perodua_kami_menawarkan_pilihan_untuk_membeli/", "num_comment": 3, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["From the original post : 1. Perodua offered to make a new loan for the customer for another car , meaning she has to service two loans, one for a broken car.\nPerodua never offered a black and white offer to buy her car back, just verbal confirmation that once the investigation was concluded they could proceed (which hasnt been concluded).\nPerodua really fallen on all fronts after ramping up production to meet covid demands. Hope they can go back to being a legit car company."], ["Did anyone tell them to go fuck themselves yet?", "Apparently not obvious enough, would you like to do the service, vocal and loudly ?"]]}
+{"title": "What to Wear? : An Update", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xf00l/what_to_wear_an_update/", "num_comment": 48, "flairlabel": ["Wholesome"], "header": "Hii! \ud83d\udc4b\ud83c\udffc It's me again haha that Filipina girl, who was asking what she should wear in KL, and I have, well, quite a lot I wanna say \ud83d\ude16\nFirst of all, thank you to everyone who gave advice cause literally ALL of you were right haha KL doesn't seem to care so much about what people wear! I wore something sleeveless or cropped everyday with no problem. Like some of you warned, I did receive a few stares here and there but like, I'm used to that even in the Philippines. Also had to cover up at Batu Caves, which, I brought a cardigan cause someone said I'd need it, and I needed it like everyday cause YEAH MALLS THERE ARE TRULY VERY COLD \ud83d\ude2d\nButtt the people are warm \ud83e\ude77 Like, very warm! As in, approached us and helped us book a car to Kuala Gandah when we were stuck at a random bus stop, had a genuine convo with us on the longgg ride home from Genting Highlands (at like 10pm), and in general, were such smile-y, chill people. THAT kind of warm \ud83d\udc95 And I feel like it's nothing too big, but out of all the countries I've been to, people in Malaysia had the most immaculate vibes \u263a\ufe0f I feel like someone's gonna fight me for saying that HELP there's always something going on in Reddit comments but whatever TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT PLEASE IM GENUINE I REALLY LOVED MY STAY\nIt physically hurt me that I had to go home already, especially since I have 500 things for school that I have to get done \ud83d\ude16 I miss Malaysia, and I will until I come back LORD KNOWS WHEN but I absolutely must return before I die ugh why can't Manila be like KL \ud83d\ude29 LIFE IS SO UNFAIR\nSo yeah I hope you guys love your pretty country as much as I do \ud83e\udd79 Your tourist sites are seriously something and your people are on the same level \ud83d\udc8b Peace out \u270c\ud83c\udffc(I'm still saying in this sub just because haha)", "comments": [["If you ever come back to Malaysia and need help getting around can HMU, my GF is half pinoy and speaks quite fluent Tagalog", "I love my half-Pinoy queens \ud83d\udc95 Thank you!"], ["Cool that you enjoyed here, but I have to be that guy....\nCould you elaborate when you said \"people are warm, very warm!\"", "Compared to the philippines of all places too.", "huh \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d", "OP not replying my top comment. I think we all know what that means", "Bro \ud83d\udc80 LITERALLY WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY I EXPLAINED MYSELF WELL IN THE POST", "Stop lying to yourself", "\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23"], ["say that to the Sinkies over there \ud83d\ude02", "I am living for this beef", "I hope you feel better"], ["Honestly I cannot stress this enough but no one really cares about what you wear in kl- unless ofc you go to cultural sites. And I must say it\u2019s quite safe as a female solo traveller, I remembered my phone died on my way back to my accommodation- I had to navigate back with MRT,and this was at night like 11pm?- I thought for sure I\u2019m getting into trouble. But thankfully a few Malaysian girls helped me through~ so yay! You have to come back tho, there\u2019s more to Malaysia than KL", "Real!! I wanna visit Terengganu and many other places when I come back\ud83d\udc95", "I went to genting at the end of Dec too, dang the weather was bad, it was raining the entire day. I really want to travel to Borneo though, I heard it\u2019s really beautiful. Hopefully in this year \ud83d\ude4f\ud83d\ude4f", "OMG I MADE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE IN GENTING HAHAHAHA THE PLACE ITSELF IS BEAUTIFUL AND SKYWORLD WAS SO FUN BUT I WORE THE WRONG CLOTHES \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d I WAS IN A MESH CROP TOP LORD HELP MEEE THE FOG THE RAIN THE WIND UGH I ALMOST FROZE TO DEATH AND I LOST 15 RINGGIT ON A RAINCOAT BECAUSE OF IT \ud83d\udc80 CORE MEMORY TBH ITS THE TEENAGE GIRL STRUGGLE FRFR\noh and yeah I heard Borneo's nice haha", "Honestly tho, I wore a crop top cause I wanted to look cute in the pics. But it didn\u2019t last long- I had to borrow my friend\u2019s sweater cause I was about to collapse from the cold. I did the upside down rollercoaster thing- my goddddd I wanted to die real bad. But yo we need to meet up next time you come back.", "I dont know when that will be but IT WILL BE\u203c\ufe0fI WILL SELL MY KIDNEY IF I MUST TO COME BACK \ud83d\udc95 IMMA FOLLOW YOU", "Ahahhaha for suree"], ["Im glad we were able to warn you about the cold malls. Its amusing to think that mall temperatures could become a sticking point when traveling haha. Crisis averted!", "As someone who goes to mall everyday except some weekends, i don't feel our mall is cold. It's just at the right temperature. I can wear normal t-shirt and be fine.\nUnless you go into cinema. This needs a cardigan."], ["aww i'm glad that you had a good stay in Malaysia, it's v sweet of you to post about your nice experience here too, we honestly need a bit more positivity on the sub lol. good luck for school! :D"], ["Glad you enjoyed your stay!!"], ["How do you like the drivers here? My sister visited Manila and she said you guys have quite the drivers over there\ud83d\ude01", "Drivers in Malaysia were nice to us and got oddly excited(?) when we tell them we're from the Philippines (they usually guess first tho haha) \ud83d\ude01 What does she mean by \"quite the drivers\" HELP DRIVERS IN MANILA ARE A DIFFERENT BREED", "I'll be blunt and no offense, but she said drivers in Manila drove like a maniac - her words not mine! \ud83e\udd23", "No offense taken hahaha she's not entirely wrong! Some drivers here are scary for real \ud83d\ude2d", "\ud83d\ude01\ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d", "Until you guys seen drivers in Cambodia or Georgia \ud83d\ude0f"], ["Now days it's very hot in the afternoon and rains in the evening", "Yep! It's something like that in the Philippines on some days too"], ["Ahhhh, that feeling you get after travelling to a good place", "you mean depression? yeah \ud83d\ude2d", "Exactly lmao"], ["Man, i think its about time i revisit Philippines. The last time i was there, BGC was still Fort Bonifacio hahaha\nGlad you love our country and looking forward to hosting you again soon!", "HELP BGC when it was still the middle of nowhere \ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d\ud83d\ude2d I think that was even before I was born hahahaha it's kind of like KL now so you should deffo come back! And I'll come back to Malaysia too I SWEAR I WILL GET UP FROM MY DEATH BED IF I DIE BEFORE VISITING KL AGAIN"], ["Now... where's OOTD \ud83d\ude01", "Im way too insecure and paranoid to share pics haha but if anyone wants a detailed-ish summary just message me\ud83d\ude2d"], ["Love manila love vivamax love princess zian much love", "ABS-CBN is better than Vivamax! Jk hahaha all the love to you\ud83d\udc8b"], ["what", "what (2)", "what (3)", "HELP", "<image>"], ["You sounds like a fun fella to hang out with. I know filipinos are so hyped because i have few filipino coworkers & few friends from cebu & visayas. Let us know if you are coming back & i will bring you to some of the best hawkers in KL! And my house is open if you want crash here so you can save your penny on accommodation & we can have some nerdy board game sessions."]]}
+{"title": "McDonald's Malaysia's Move To Sue Boycott Movement Slammed by Netizens", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xja6k/mcdonalds_malaysias_move_to_sue_boycott_movement/", "num_comment": 48, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["I suspect the case will be settled outside the court later on.....", "Setel after school dare one not?"], ["I wonder how this case will go.\nYes, it is our right to boycott, but did BDS defame McD too much lol. McD been quite firm in saying none of their money or royalty go to Israel.", "BDS was clear:\nBDS didn't start the boycott, but they're not gonna go against it either.\nBDS said, the only way they can stand with McDonald's Malaysia (MM) is by MM openly condemn Israel genocidal policies against the Palestinians, which MM has failed to do thus far. Which for me begs the question: operating in a country where majority is openly against Israel, what is holding MM back from releasing such statement?", "From what I read, McD Msia already keluarkan few statements explaining franchise system, not related to Israel, and also donated rm1 mil to Palestine.. which mostly kena ignored lol kesian. Not sure whats stopping them from condemning Israel ourtight. Maybe their PR department got fed up while halfway writing condemnation and lost their temper. I think court case is not the correct path to take tho.. they should just keep quiet and wait it out.\nBut I can see why McD is confident to sue BDS for defamation. The current boikot logic is M Msia pay royalty to its owner M SaudiArabia, who in turn pay to M USA, then M USA give that money to M Israel, and M Israel use that money to donate meals to Israeli Army. Thats very far fetched.. because franchise system just doesnt work that way. Like, when M Malaysia give free meals to nurses and firemen, are we giving M USA the credit for that?\nRegardless, we should boikot McD for harga Yahudi, not for actual Yahudi. Prosperity set meal is almost rm20 and the burger so small now, wtfffff", "they should just keep quiet and wait it out.\nThey should've. Like many pointed out, usually Malaysians would come back after a while and I think MM did wait, but this time, Israel seems to be set on their vendetta and MM is obviously bleeding and couldn't wait no more.\nFrom what I read, McD Msia already keluarkan few statements explaining franchise system, not related to Israel,\nI was one of those who bought that explanation. I understood that it's beyond their control to prevent what M Israel did. Of course. I didn't even boycott them.\nHowever, this lawsuit made me revisit the whole thing again - that was when I saw what BDS asked MM to do. Condemn Israel. What's stopping MM? this is 100% within their control, right? Maybe it's not? I've started boycotting them ever since.\nbecause franchise system just doesnt work that way.\nNot objecting you, but here's how it works for those who want to know:\nMcDonald's franchise model is pretty slick. Here's the scoop: someone who wants to open a McDonald's franchise, like in Malaysia, has to pay an initial fee to McDonald's Corporation (the big guys in the U.S.). This fee gives them the license to run a McDonald's restaurant.\nBut it doesn't stop there. The franchisee (the person running the local McDonald's) also pays regular fees, which usually include a percentage of their sales. This is where McDonald's HQ makes a lot of its dough. So, yeah, McDonald's Malaysia (like Gerbang Alaf Restaurants Sdn Bhd) would be paying these ongoing fees to McDonald's Corporation in the U.S. This way, they get to use the McDonald's brand, its business model, and all the secret recipes!\nEven though Gerbang Alaf Restaurants Sdn Bhd (owned by Saudi Arabia's Reza Group) operates McDonald's Malaysia, they still have to play by the rules of McDonald's Corporation in the USA. This includes paying for licensing and advertising.\nIn the franchise model, the franchisee (like Gerbang Alaf in this case) pays a franchise fee and ongoing royalties, which typically include a percentage of sales, to the franchisor (McDonald's Corporation). These payments cover the rights to use the McDonald's brand, operating system, and ongoing support, including advertising. This is a standard practice in franchising, not just for McDonald's, but for most international franchise brands.", "You do realize no neutral business will voluntarily do something like No. 2 right. Purely for business reasons. There's no going back once you've said that, you're just opening a different can of worms."], ["yes pls keep fucking up mcdonalds , I need more cheap burgers.", "inb4 Mcdonalds pull out their entire franchises from Malaysia"], ["Malays boycotting a malay owned corporation staffed by malay workers to in support of Hamas leadership living like kings in Qatar.\nIm loving this!", "https://www.mcdonalds.com.my/company/history\nNot Malay owned, Saudi owned. Also not staffed by Malay workers, staffed by Malaysian workers.\nNot everything is Malay.", "Ahh so youre boycotting Saudi la. Boikot Mecca bila?", "I never said anything about boycotting Saudi or even Mcd. I am just pointing your mistakes.", "Ni level bangang punya thinking", "let's say it's Muslim owned and staffed by majorities Malaysian Malay Muslim", "yeah it\u2019s alright. but I have read more complicated mental gymnastics than this one.", "while maki Cina for patronizing them\u2026 seriously i have no words to say anyone", "I just let them do wht they want at this point. As long as they happy lah.", "Even encouraging another 513\uff1f", "This boycott will not cause another 513.", "So malays should be thankful that McDonald's provide them jobs and pay them handsomely? Lol as if they are the only players in the market. Plus malay owned corporation? Wow thats a first where do u learn this disinformation tactic? Zionist propaganda school?", "Melayu when faced with uncomfortable truth : ZIONISSSSSS"], ["I am surprised no one mention wix.com"], ["To non muslims, isnt it good for u guys that Malay is boycotting Mcd dont have to que what lol"], ["i believe netizen is slamming mcd isnt solely on middle east conflict (yes, its originated from there)\nsome displayed disappointment with their cooperate greed"], ["Time to get another prosperity burger tmr from Mcdonalds."], ["With the small price of free meals(what? 10000soldiers x dirt cheap food , maybe rm5 , so rm50,000)\nIsrael has successfully made Muslims boycott their own economy and made Muslim-owned McDonalds lose money.\n6m just from Malaysia.. who knows how much the rest of the Muslim world lost.\nThe boycott is working.. but since idiots yang buat.. the impact isn't exactly what they imagined.\nI guarantee none of the the boycotters can prove that Gerbang Alaf money has ever made its way to Alonyal Ltd.\nThey don't even know how franchises works.. is McDonald Corps gonna send money to Alonyal Ltd?", "Not necessarily. Muslims, as humans, still need to eat. Just because they boycott McD, doesn't mean they didn't buy food from the nasi lemak makcik, nasi kandar mamak, or the chicken rice uncle. Malaysia's own economy is not boycotted. The money just flowed into other Malaysian's hands. Yes Muslim owned McD will loose money, but in the future Muslims might think twice investing in a foreign franchise.", "Note : I haven't ate McD for years.. I'm just pissed off at Muslims spreading misinformation(read : Fitnah) like wildfire", "Well, unfortunately, Gerbang Alaf decided to do something (that is equivalent to using a flamethrower to fight fire) that no one else does by pursuing this frankly weird move...\nYeah, I would not be surprised if there are McD branches being vandalized (most probably outside of Malaysia) just because of this...."], ["Israhell bootlickers : Boycott doesn't work\nMcDonald : oh, we lost RM 6 million so far due to boycott. Let's recover it by suing people.", "McD malaysia losing money but Israel macam menang jer", "Mcd malaysia losing meaning the HQ Mcd also losing, i hope MCD malaysia close down i mean they been selling shit food for premium price but yet all you westerners wannabe still buying em like crazy.\nPlus, why does McDonald's get to charge premium price but at the same time the patron are expected to clean up their table themselves?\nU dont see these westerners wannabe advocate the same at mamak or any warungs eventhough they charging minimum price for foods.", "Plus, why does McDonald's get to charge premium price but at the same time the patron are expected to clean up their table themselves?\nKo merepek apa ni mat? Kesian ar..", "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon\u2019t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon\u2019t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks."], ["How does boycotting a FNB franchise help Palestine? Bizarre logic.", "So that brand will stop whitewashing Israel by distancing itself from the genocide happening, u know McDonald's been very supportive of the israel war effort by keep sending those zionist McDonald's food and other contributions.", "McDonald's been very supportive of the israel war effort by keep sending those zionist McDonald's food and other contributions.\nCan you share some sources on this? Also every major US MNC likely has business deals with Israel so how is that different?", "Well, there would usually be a wave of people avoiding Mcdonald and other companies (like in 2014) just because they are an American brand (whose national leaders are allies with Israel....)\nThe difference this time(other than the intensity of violence) for McDonalds was the fact that McDonalds in Israel had decided to give free meals to IDF soldiers during thr attack on Gaza.... (I am unaware if the McDonalds of Israel also give free food for the victims of October 7th, but it seems like there are more promoting the fact that they giving food to IDF soldiers)...\nOf course, McDonalds in Israel is operated by a different company than the one in Malaysia....unfortunately there are two things that aren't going for them, the first of which is the fact that McDonald Malaysia operations are foreign-owned, specifically Saudi-owned, where (other than the fact that they like the other Arab countries are getting closer to Israel in order to curb Iran's influence), there were some (albeit later proven to be false IIRC) allegations that the authorities there arresting people just because they are chanting pro-Palestine chants...so there are some people that start to boycott them because they are OWNED BY THE SAUDIS...\nThe second problem was the fact that unlike the other McDonalds in other Muslim countries, where they just explained the situation and then accept the losses due to the boycott and move on like any other year, McDonalds Malaysia IN PARTICULAR as stated in the OP article, oddly decided to take a step (beyond the realms of common sense in regard to doing operation in a majority Muslim countries)by suing the BDS movement here due to the losses, as such this perplexing(and also the fact that the food prices were shot up (even relative to the other F&B brands) recently) move would probably encourage more people to avoid Malaysian McDonalds.\nTLDR, Israel McD decided to be specific in their support to IDF, people decided to boycott Malaysia's Mekdi, (which are technically different but owned by the equally problematic for some, Saudis), which in turn decided to do what no other McD done which to specifically sue the people calling for the boycott.\nIMO I understand if Mekdi Malaysia decided to sue people who decided to vandalize the branches (for example there were some branches being set in fire in Turkey , or pro-Palestine protesters that decided to drop rubishes/ rat into the Starbucks branches IIRC), but suing just because of boycott seems like an idiotic dick move from Mekdi....", "Oic Mcd Israel give free meal to IDF so must boycott Mcd Malaysia. Makes so much sense.\nAlmost like US foreign policy dictacted by MCD and boycotting it in Malaysia going to make the US government withdraw support to Israel.", "Yeah, but like I said, Mekdi Malaysia decided to somehow respond to an (idiotic for some, reasonable for others) action by pursuing a court case JUST because a boycott, which is a perplexing and IMO universally idiotic since it basically poured more petrol into the fire, where just keeping it quiet like other McDs in foreign country (including the ones where they were vandalized )would be a better move...", "Hi, maybe you\u2019re completely ok with a company giving free meals to child killers and genocidal regimes with the full endorsement of the headquarters as evident by the lack of criticism of McD USA towards McD Israel. But a lot of us are not willing to buy from a franchise whose HQ is ok with keeping silent and allowing free meals to fill the bellies of murderers. Maybe you are completely fine with that and it doesn\u2019t bother you at all. But for the rest of us who are uncomfortable let us boycott in peace. This is a free country right?", "Nobody stopping you from boycott. I am just pointing out how dumb it is. Free country right?", "<image>\nThis one? Yeah boycott them all, u know not all american us mnc support israel is the one that expressly shows support to those zionist deserves to be boycotted like McDonald's and Starbucks", "MCD Israel give a free meal to IDF then must boycott MCD Malaysia lol. What logic?\nYou understand that US foreign policy is not affected by MCD right? US government support is what keeps Israel strong.", "You understand how franchises work ah? You think McD Malaysia dont pay money to the HQ ah? Free free only they give the name one isit? Reducing money to the US corporations wont work is it? The only language these people understand is the language of money. Thats why there are anti boycott laws."], ["Please don't hate me because I'm asking a genuine question, McD is an American company, right? And McD USA support Israel and McD Israel is giving free meals to IOF...BUT, McD Malaysia says they did not support Israel and The profit won't go to Israel...which is okay\nMy question is...where did all the profit of McD malaysia go to? Does McD USA not get a single cents from franchises all over the world?\nIf McD Malaysia says they don't give money to Israel, but The profit went to McD USA instead and McD USA supports Israel...won't McD Malaysia indirectly helps the funding?"]]}
+{"title": "Your experience with startups in Malaysia?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xd0gd/your_experience_with_startups_in_malaysia/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Hello everyone !!\nI've been super curious about the startup scene in Malaysia lately. Personally, I've been slightly involved but definitely only seen the tip of the iceberg. I'm actually in the process of a new venture and would to love to hear and learn from everyone! BTW, if you would like to be involved in the process of my new startup (having early access, providing feedback, sharing problems etc), LET ME KNOW and I will keep you in the loop personally :)\nHas anyone here tried starting their own company in Malaysia? I\u2019m all ears for your stories \u2013 the good, the bad, and the unexpected.\nWhat was it like? I'm wondering about the nitty-gritty stuff, like dealing with regulations or finding the right team.\nHow's the vibe? Is there a strong community vibe, or is everyone in their own lane? Please let me know if anyone is on twitter and who to follow for the best tips!\nAny wild success (or learning curve) stories? was there at any point you realised the idea or product was not right in the market and the only choice was to pivot or quit?\nWhat\u2019s the future looking like? I'm curious about what everyone thinks is next for Malaysia's startup world.\nThanks a ton for sharing your insights and experiences. Can\u2019t wait to read your stories!", "comments": [["I started a company about 12 years ago. Sold it off to partner recently and took a break. Had another one abroad that flopped during Covid. Took a break. Getting back into things again this year.\nDrop me a line if you are keen to connect.\nTo answer your questions:\nWhat was it like? It\u2019s much easier these days. The Silicon Valley mentality have reached our shores, for better and for worse. I wish I had the infrastructure like we do now when I started my firm at 24. Starting and running a company is tough work. Forget your life for a good 3 to 5 years. You\u2019ll probably fuck up most relationships. Money will be scarce unless you have deep papa\u2019s pocket which is the case for many in the scene here. Nothing, I mean nothing will be easy at the beginning.\nVibes: it\u2019s a lonely place. It\u2019s better now, but I\u2019m too old to have the energy to network. A lot of fake people and investors here. For example, I kink personally of 5 cases where founders go in to places like MDEC to pitch and the judge listening to the pitches steals the idea outright. Check out the company Mole. They are having a I Hate Networking soon.\nWild Success: There is a lot of luck (earned luck, luck you must work towards) and then timing. The most important thing no one talks about. Timing. I\u2019ve seen great ideas crash and burn because it was a few years or cycles too early. Covid is a great example: overnight delivery, logistics and cashless services boomed. Luck and timing. I myself went through that. I started my digital media company about a year before 4G and then social media videos were launched (FB and IG). And just like that we were the only fucker in town doing this but we had to hang on for 18 months waiting. We went from monthly revenue of RM2,000 to RM50,000 pretty much overnight when these catalysts happened.\nFuture: You can\u2019t think of Malaysia as a standalone like US. It won\u2019t work. You have to think of scale from SEA perspective. Look at most startups over recent years, you have to scale fast regionally. Zus, Bjak, Zenyum and many more - their strategic is very simple. Start up in SG-MY. Proof of concept. Less than 30M population to play and test and fine tune. In the mean time, burn through investors money from Round A, B and maybe C. Then immediately hop into Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines where the population in one market alone is bigger than SG-MY. What you need is time, a decent product that will improve rapidly (1 to 2 years) and a very solid plan to break into 2 or 3 big SEA markets.", "Thank you so much for your comment! really insightful and a bunch of valuable information even when condensed. Would love to connect with you :)"], ["Varies from different industries and how strong your networking is", "Sure, but what has been your experience so far?", "I can write a book about it."]]}
+{"title": "scooting around kl", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x5rou/scooting_around_kl/", "num_comment": 4, "flairlabel": [], "header": "hi, i want to get started on using a kick scooter around my neighbourhood as a short distance commute/ transport tool.\nidk if these questions are gonna be basic but i hope yall just be kind to me \ud83d\ude05\ni\u2019ve been doing some research, and i plan to just get a cheap adult scooter to try it out and see how much i\u2019ll use it first anyway. i saw that what matters would be size of tyre, suspension, brakes, and the clearance distance off the ground (too high will be tiring for quads, too low will be smacking against things on the ground)\ni will be getting a small bag for the scooter too, and i suppose it\u2019s always ok to ride around with a backpack to keep my stuff. i mostly take the trains as well, but i think scooter can just bawa masuk kan.\nim just wondering what do i do when entering malls etc with the scooter? i suppose its the same issue with foldable bikes / normal bikes. or e scooters having to look for a place to park. i\u2019m aware that i can fold up my scooter and walk around in the store or mall but what if i don\u2019t want to be carrying it around the mall with me the whole time (i suppose you can carry it using its body once folded or u can buy a scooter bag which just looks like a long horizontal tote hahahahaha)\nwhat do you guys think? and what do you use as your urban commute tool? how do you park/carry/store your scooter/bike - and any tips you would like to recommend? any etiquette? \ud83d\ude02highly appreciate it so i can also be a part of this as i don\u2019t like driving/cars and prefer public transport / walking /pavement things !\nthank you so much gang", "comments": [["I use a kick scooter to go from my office to car (I park quite far away to save money). I have brought it into shops and one or two malls without issue, but then again there were no security guards at the entrance.", "oooh thanks! do you fold it up and carry it around with you, or do you just wheel it \ud83d\ude02", "I just wheel it in. Too lazy to fold it.", "this makes me feel better abt how lazy i am too then \ud83d\ude02"]]}
+{"title": "Malaysian Digital Arrival Card", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x49e9/malaysian_digital_arrival_card/", "num_comment": 3, "flairlabel": [], "header": "I submitted my MDAC upon arrival in KL but only because I asked about customs declarations and was sent to this webpage by an airport info staff member. (MDAC has nothing to do with customs).\nI just read on a connecting flight that all foreigners need to submit MDAC so I'm trying to enter for my partner but we have been in the country 2 weeks now and I can't select correct arrival date.\nThis requirement is very poorly advertised in the airport. Infact no one mentioned it on the plane, nor at immigration in KL. No signs anywhere.The only place I've seen it posted is on a tiny printed piece of paper at immigration in Miri and you'd only really notice it if you stared at it whilst getting your passport checked by an officer.\nNot sure what to do other than enter incorrect arrival date now. And not sure of consequences when we fly out of Malaysia next week, or return when next visiting?\n\"All foreigners are required to submit Malaysia Digital Arrival Card (as per following link) prior to their arrival in Malaysia effective from 1st December 2023. The application can be submitted 3 days before arrival in Malaysia.\"\nhttps://imigresen-online.imi.gov.my/mdac/main?registerMain", "comments": [["Just be up front and mentioned you were let in without knowledge of this. Congratulations, you've just experienced typical malaysian incompetency.", "I asked MAS about this the other day at check in and they didn\u2019t know anything about it yet either, \u201cwait and see\u201d\nAnd the immi officer had a go at me for using the wrong queue \u2026guess he was having a bad day"]]}
+{"title": "Is it really 15% for cashback?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xlxd7/is_it_really_15_for_cashback/", "num_comment": 9, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "Why not you put 50% or 90% cashback if you put capped at rm60 after spending more than RM 2,500? Which literally means the cashback is max 2.4% If you spend RM 3,000 the cashback will become 2%\nSomeone please enlighten me..", "comments": [["Marketing ser\u2026. Ain\u2019t new. Similar like shopee\u2019s 90% discount voucher, cap at RM1. \ud83e\udd22"], ["That one need to spend rm2500 and only cap at rm60 max cashback"], ["OP's screenshot is regarding the Standard Chartered Simply Cash Credit Card.\nOP should put more effort into reading the article, which does a great job of explaining how the cashback benefits actually works had s/he bothered to scroll down further...\nAmalkan budaya membaca...", "So if I understood correctly, the RM 2500 monthly spend means the total amount of spent with the card, not just the amount spent on the cashback stuff?\nFor example, if I have total spending of RM2500 this month with the card, and RM200 is spent on the stuff with cashback, then I can only get RM200x15% = RM30 which is below the cap?", "It just means a tiered Cashback rate depending on your monthly spend...once you hit 2500 the Cashback rate inflects to incentivize you to spend at least 2500.", "yes that's right you only get RM30. However you can top-up to e-wallet like GrabPay (check the T&C if eligible), then pay for stuff, even if you're not spending for the category, for example I buy cinema tickets BUT I used GrabPay, or maybe I pay my internet bills using GrabPay, or even if I paid my mamak meal using GrabPay, my GrabPay would have had a cashback. :26554:\nHowever, this CC is not suitable for the average person due to its high spending requirement. There's HLB / UOB with RM500 minimum spend cashback CCs"], ["rm1-2499 u get rm12.50 cash back, then 2500 above u get 15%. means if u spend 2900, ur total cashback is rm12.5+60 = rm72.50\nrm2900 get cashback Rm72.50 so complicated.. if spend more than 2900 no cash back?"], ["because 15% is less than 50-90%...they get to cheat us twice."], ["To get the 15% cashback, you need to spend RM400 (RM400*0.15=RM60) in the 'petrol,e-wallet, grocery, dining' category which is very easy since you're already spending RM2500 with your card. Since this is not tiered by category, you can topup RM400 into *selected e-wallet* and just go ham with it while you think about how to deal with the remaining RM2100 minimum spend. You'd still get RM60 CB.\nThis card has a very high minimum spend which is not suitable for the average person. However, this card is a great option to further maximise cashback if your spending is too damm big. ie: T20s with monthly 5k-10k spendings will hold many banks's CC to get the most out of their spendings. If your spending is even higher, points CCs would be even better to collect air miles or whatever.\nIf you're just someone who only spends RM1k a month, you can consider UOB ONE or HLB WISE instead which has RM500 minimum spend, easily achievable even if you're a fresh grad. You can top up to e-wallets, and get 5-8% cashback on your lunch/dinner. However, these cards have a category cap, like RM10-15 only. You'd be getting RM120+++ per year back depending on your spending patterns. If you're able to maximise the categories it's an easy RM40+*12months = RM480+ minimum per year."]]}
+{"title": "Kedah announces holiday on Jan 25 for Thaipusam", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xkvk3/kedah_announces_holiday_on_jan_25_for_thaipusam/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Culture"], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Fixed my faulty display SmartTag and upgraded the casing", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x92bl/fixed_my_faulty_display_smarttag_and_upgraded_the/", "num_comment": 21, "flairlabel": ["Mildly interesting"], "header": "This link showed my previous SmartTAG post: https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/s/aTBMmTPOF0\nSo I managed to fix the display issue by myself by replacing the old ribbon cable (21 PIN) connecting the motherboard to the display. With a bit of patience I managed to get it fully working again.\nFor the casing, I went to Basset Sdn Bhd, which is in PJ. They did as they advertised and replaced the casing only as I requested. Took only 10-15 minutes to change and have a new looking SmartTAG with the Type C port to charge rechargeable 9V batteries.\nIf you guys want me to share more details about the repair and replacement; I could make another post.", "comments": [["Meanwhile RFID Users", "Real definition of RFID: \u2018R\u2019everse \u2018F\u2019orward \u2018I\u2019f cannot \u2018D\u2019o it again", "Until it makes you reverse forward I dibuatnya because of the shit sensors at non PLUS tolls.", "I hate the absence of detected beep though much i sense of insecurity", "You can always check your record at EWALLET", "Not as satisfying as hearing the beep when passing the boom gate. Like when you make purchases with Apple/Samsung/Google Pay and hear the chime.", "\ud83d\ude05"], ["How to get the type c battery? And how to make the hole", "For the battery you can either get MaxTag\u2019s 9V Type C rechargeable battery or get a third party one; but make sure for the third party one, you get a battery designed like MaxTag\u2019s one as the casing only fits MaxTag\u2019s design.\nSpeaking of the casing, I did not make a hole in the casing and replaced it with MaxTag to have it with the Type C port."], ["God I hated this SmartTag so much, there was a point in time where we didn't have TNG EWallet app yet, and the myvi didn't have the built in TNG reader too so the only way to remember your balance (if you have a busted SmartTag LCD) was to either remember the vague amount yourself or go to like a Watsons to check.\nSuch a pain in the ass", "way to remember your balance\nTNG portal can ada? Assuming already register the card to your IC no.", "got! but only updates after 24 hours iirc.", "It's a weakness with the Mifare system than the portal tho.", "Regardless its still something that the consumer faces with using TNG. Wouldn't be much of an issue if TNG in general is consumer friendly to use but it isn't so everything kinda adds up to the frustration"], ["Ooo looks interesting. Do show how you do it. Want to modify my smart tag as well"], ["I helped buy 2 of the Besset MaxTag things and the thing missing from the old and the new apart from the Type C port is the blue backlight screen.\nStill annoying that they don't offer charge cable and charger at their location tho. I helped an iPhone user buy one and had to stop at Mr DIY to buy cable and charger. If you are in an Android household, this is a non issue.", "Yeah the newer MaxTags which the older MaxTags (which I have) lacked the display backlight. Is there a way to get backlight for the old MaxTags?\nAlso with the new iPhone 15 series they switched to Type C, hopefully in a few years the \u201cis this cable/charger compatible?\u201d would be a non-issue.", "to get backlight for the old MaxTags\nI think this one can ask them if they can install their screen to yours, but I think it requires a new board because the balance button turns on the backlight.", "I think this one can ask them if they can install their screen to yours\nHmmm I could be out of luck. I actually did self-repair on my MaxTag display as the original ribbon cable was replaced by a third party. My concern is that they would reject the repair as from what I read from Basset\u2019s responses on Google reviews. If they classify the \u201cscreen installation\u201d as a \u2018repair\u2019.\nFor my case, I only requested a casing replacement as it would not be classed as a \u2018repair\u2019 and as a \u2018replacement\u2019.\nrequires a new board because the balance button turns on the backlight.\nIf that\u2019s the case, it would be better to buy a new MaxTag if the motherboard has to be replaced with the display as well. The newer MaxTag has a better processor and the black light. Nonetheless, appreciate you sharing."], ["Wait smart tag works on NFC card aswell?"], ["My bro in law just ditch the casing, connect to car battery and install the whole chipset under the dashboard with just the card slot and display showing."]]}
+{"title": "'Bukan Langkah Dubai, tapi Langkah Chow Kit sebab mesyuarat di KL' - Sanusi", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xhv2z/bukan_langkah_dubai_tapi_langkah_chow_kit_sebab/", "num_comment": 16, "flairlabel": ["Politics"], "header": "", "comments": [["Bodoh punya nusi\u2026"], ["Can't spell Sanusi without ANUS", "SI ANUS"], ["Blame kedahan for this... Weak mind MB due to weak mind voter", "Not really hor... lots Kedah ppl vote for BN+PH but since we use FPTP. BN lost a lot of seat with small margin PH as well. Ug got 30.11% in Kedah election but only 3 seats all from PKR. Gerakan got 4.04% of total votes and got 1 seat. UMNO got 11% votes with 0 seats"], ["Nobody can top his stupidity, ever."], ["Otak Sanusi"], ["on the contrary what he say in the 1st part of this press conference are pretty good. its about ph show everyone how to play the anti lompat party loophole and now its a free real estate\n2nd part is basically anwar play card during interviews, smile while saying nonsense as a smoke and mirrors making fun of the question without actually saying anything.\nsolid 7/10 response", "PH didnt show everyone the loophole, PN sendiri didnt alter their party rules. too bad \ud83d\ude02", "PN\u2019s parties rules allow their MPs to support opposite parties but UG doesn\u2019t? Just making sure I understand this right coz I\u2019m not familiar with the akta anti lompat.\nIf so, PN would be dumb to assume that the akta would work in favour of them\u2026", "not to say allow, but bersatu can kenakan tindakan discipline on their MP if they break the party's rules. but those MP are still holding their status , and not kicked from party. so like no consequences lol", "PN\u2019s parties rules allow their MPs to support opposite parties but UG doesn\u2019t? Just making sure I understand this right coz I\u2019m not familiar with the akta anti lompat.\nExample from Amanah\nEssentially, the parties can update their constitution to state that any elected member who goes against the party's orders would have been deemed to resign from the party (and therefore triggering the by-election clause of the Anti-hopping law).\nAFAIK DAP and Amanah have updated their constitutions, not sure about any other party. Bersatu definitely hasn't, as can be seen from some of their MPs who announced support for Anwar.", "There\u2019s a \u201cloophole\u201d because Bersatu didn\u2019t change their party constitution.\nOther parties done so."], ["This guy at one point will become our PM"], ["Fun Fact : Sanusi went to the same HS as me. :) English School."]]}
+{"title": "Good podcast or Youtube channels in Malaysian Chinese accent?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xhe40/good_podcast_or_youtube_channels_in_malaysian/", "num_comment": 9, "flairlabel": ["Culture"], "header": "I\u2019m looking for recommendation as above, as I\u2019m trying to learn to understand Malaysian/Singaporean Chinese accent through listening.\nI\u2019m looking for topics like life, society, culture, growth, etc. and not too interested in entertainment and celebrity gossiping.\nThere is almost zero such podcast/Youtube channels in Singaporean Chinese by the way, I don\u2019t know why, haha. So I\u2019m turning to this community now.\nThank you awesome Malaysian Redditors!", "comments": [["Bbk network", "Wow, this is super interesting, exactly what I\u2019m looking for. Thank you!"], ["Ccwhyao though not podcast, it's more like a casual interview and chat kinda thing.", "This is also exactly what I\u2019m looking for, thank you. Malaysian Chinese programs are so multicultural!"], ["Chinese accent in Chinese or English?", "Sorry I worded it awkwardly, I mean in Chinese", "If you are into cars, I recommend checking out the following YouTube channels\nhttps://youtube.com/@riderath1601?si=aeRVMgFObacS8CSW\nhttps://youtube.com/@HeeWeiSeng?si=FgYkfJJGrFP3RVVL\nhttps://youtube.com/@taichooyee?si=NxdzN76qiqvKFAMd\nthe first 2 is a bit more 'ah beng' in flavour and the last one is definitely more professional Beng, but they're a pretty accurate representation of a Malaysian Chinese accent of Chinese that you can find in Malaysia"], ["BBK,Wheelan(cars)"]]}
+{"title": "Rafizi allays concerns about Padu registration after former lawmaker raises possible teething issues", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x43s8/rafizi_allays_concerns_about_padu_registration/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["PADU = NEP 2.0\nReject PADU when you still can. Reject Digital ID.", "But muh subsidy? :26559:"]]}
+{"title": "r/Malaysia geopolitics containment megathread for 03 January 2024", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x1pss/rmalaysia_geopolitics_containment_megathread_for/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Geopolitical Megathread"], "header": "r/Malaysia geopolitics containment megathread\nThis thread is for all news and discussion on Malaysian geopolitics - primarily the current Israel-Palestine conflict. Please post links and discussion posts as root level comments below!\nGround rules: To keep things civil, personal attacks, flaming and/or bigotry will result in a ban. Also, throwaways are not welcome: you must be >3 months old and have >30 karma to participate.\nRationale: Why we have set this up\nThis thread is sorted by New, and will be refreshed every day!", "comments": [["Say, whatever happened to those Malaysian macais in Gaza shown pointing at Hamas rockets launched on Oct 7 on Tiktok/Instagram?"]]}
+{"title": "Maybe I Messed Up, Maybe Kongsi Gelap Are Looking For Me. I Am Scared.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xh9mx/maybe_i_messed_up_maybe_kongsi_gelap_are_looking/", "num_comment": 87, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Short story. I (M20) tried looking for sex service and when I replied slow (was still considering whether or not I should go thru with it), received threats that they'll send kongsi gelap to come after me. To put this into perspective, I'm a very desperate virgin.\nThis morning I contacted a service girl via WhatsApp regarding her services. I believe I found her thru Locanto (I contacted multiple service girls). I was a little slow in interacting with her as I was still doubtful of what I was doing, morally and financially.\nObviously, she was very hasty with setting up and whatnot, but I never actually agreed to book, never even mentioned wanting to book a session. I only asked for the available services offered. I told her to wait a bit, and after a while, and once she seemed very impatient, I told her that it's okay (meaning I changed my mind).\nThen moments later, I get a WhatsApp call from her (declined it) and moments later got messaged (on WhatsApp) by some guy telling me that customers are mad and this is my issue I have to deal with. He threatened to send the kongsi gelap after me. I did not open the chat, and almost immediately blocked and reported the guy, so I don't know if he gave me a way out of this.\nAdditional, I deleted the contact and chat of the afformentioned service girl (whom I assume is the root of this issue), so now I have zero proof of anything to support my case. In hindsight, it was a bit of a rash decision to do so, but I was absolutely terrified. I also deleted most of the contacts and chats of the other service girls I contacted.\nHelp.\nI don't know what to do. I'm considering reporting this to the police soon, and telling my dad. My dad would be immensely disappointed in me, but at least he would be aware of a possible threat. If it's just me who'll be affected then fine, but I don't want them to go after my family and/ or friends.\nEdit: THANK YOU to EVERY SINGLE ONE of you. YES, even the comments that make fun of me or make light of the situation are oddly reassuring. I am sufficiently aware of my flaws. You guys are a lifesaver; dis sub is a lifesaver.\nThe guy threatened me during my work break, and my mood completely changed (and I'm still new there). I couldn't focus on my work, anxiety was high, I was very preoccupied with this issue, I just wanted to run to the nearest police station ASAP. I literally hv NOBODY to reach out to for this issue. I tried posting to bolehland first but had issues with age or sumn and imagine that, tryna' seek immediate advice to the only people to u can reach out to and the sub's just like \"no\". Seeing y'all's messages pop up throughout the evening TRULY calmed me.\nTo clarify: (a) I wasn't tryna' lose my v-card, but some other services, (b) post nut clarity doesn't help, masturbation doesn't help (maybe I hv an actual problem?), hence why I went so far.", "comments": [["First time getting threatened on internet? Haha\nJokes aside, nothing to worry about unless you shared some of your personal info. If all they have is your phone number, not much they can do.", "If let say he hand over his personal info, what precaution he must take?", "Report polis", "If you have reason to feel your life is threatened. Call polis.\nIn this case, OP has no reason to be scared.", "Realistically they're not gonna do anything. Worth reporting nonetheless, but no need to over worry OP.", "Can probably look OP up on PADU heh heh."], ["My friend had the same experience, kinda gatal felle go chat and ask many questions and did not actually proceed with the service. He also kena call, they were like angry with him, saying they know his name la nombor la. Happened months ago, nothing jadi punya. Dont worry op, nothing will happen laaa, don't sweat it okay. Don't be scared \u2728\u2728", "Im scared,, so can i sleep with you instead"], ["It\u2019s a BS. They\u2019re not gonna waste resources for someone who dillydally in making a decision.\n100% scam. Nothing to be afraid of"], ["I think this issue should be pinned, seems like a common post in r/Malaysia. This is the third post I've seen recently about horni ppl getting jumpy over kongsi gelap :26554::26554::26554:", "Personally I think it\u2019s great that someone inexperienced can seek help here and give them confidence, it\u2019s better than the usual cina/melayu this and that posts anyway\nI was almost a victim too until monyets here helped me", "same"], ["There are many safe dating apps to download if your kuku is itchy.\nDon't go through the ad in FB and WhatsApp or telegram etc lorr.", "Can you share some of it. Asking for a friend.", "telegram got if you know what to look"], ["Sounds like a punch drunk love plot"], ["they're bluffing you so just ignore it. and that \"girl\" was a scammer that's why they're pretending to be mad because they can't close you. I witnessed this firsthand years ago while I was lepak2 with my friend at a mamak nearby a hotel. we messed around with WeChat then, and this happened. the guy even threatened that they've arrived at the hotel we're supposedly stay, while we're just enjoying our meals through the messages they're sending at the mamak place."], ["OP, absolutely nothing to worry about.\nLegal Practitioner here, I\u2019ve dealt with 2 similar cases during my time in legal aid (where I had to give legal advice to some extortionist who was arrested and charged in Court).\nWhat you have just described is essentially their modus operandi. You\u2019re not the first nor the last person who will fall for this scam.\nIf you actually went through with the \u201cservice\u201d by engaging the \u201cgirl\u201d, you\u2019ll end up being threatened physically on the spot. Count your blessings mate."], ["next time jack off cepat cepat", "before they come?", "Thats why you only make decisions when your belly is full and balls empty."], ["Be calm OP. Ive been there before. Just start to block unknown or suspicious number. Wait a couple days to let things cool down. Just don\u2019t make anymore contact or reply."], ["100% scam. You should ignore them."], ["PM me bro for legit sites with real FL. Even senior cheongsters avoid Locanto like a plague.\nLast time there were sites like Backpage, Craiglist & etc. but those sites got shut down by the govt. I suppose.\nRegarding your threat, yes I got the same warning like you & the goon even screenshot my WS profile pic and claiming those in Cheras are looking for me. Haha thank God I put my slim down version pic which is day & night difference with my current looks. I'm still alive even after 1 year.", "What is WS?", "Whatsapp", "Pm\u2019ed u bro, asking for a \u201cfriend\u201d"], ["Chill man, it's nothing"], ["It\u2019s called extortion."], ["They are better off focusing on the next victims than chase after you. Don't worry"], ["This is a scam. Just report polis if they harrass you"], ["Hey OP, not sure if this helps but just my 2 cents.\nI experienced a similar situation that you are experiencing now many years back ( when I was still a boy boy ) I contacted a girl that looks very pretty based on her profile picture on WhatsApp, and I agreed to meet her to hang out, she was even able to give me the location of the meet, which is actually a place that I know.\nTo cut the story short, I went there, she was not there, she told me to buy some mol points from 7 Eleven, basically it's a money scam, and I fell for it. Because at that time, this guy sent me pictures of people getting hacked and slashed, claiming it's their doing.\nAs a result, I was absolutely scared shitless, luckily I have a friend whom he and his dad is in the society, they called back the number that threaten me, the guy picked up the phone, we ask to meet him at a place, he refused and immediately hang up the call, so you see.. it's all a scam just to scare people like you and me.\nDon't worry, you are fine, perfectly fine."], ["you're not just hornai.\nYou're Hornai and timid. Obviously they are not gonna do anything or extra mile to you. Not worth the trouble."], ["Chill!! Even if he has your address, with that amount of money is not worth going up to your door. Why engage with sex worker, go out and fix yourself first and the girls will be flocking in"], ["Nothing to worry about. Just a scare tactic they use. What loss have they suffered? Maybe just a few wasted minutes. Plus, all they have is your phone number.\nAlso, this may be unsolicited advice but, why are you so desperately trying to lose your v-card? There\u2019s nothing wrong with losing your virginity late."], ["Men used to fight wars now they get terrified over some BS threat from a hooker over WhatsApp"], ["Ok come I teach how to Cheong.\nFirst, download telegram.\nSecond, find your way to frsupport group\nThird, go read reputable kongkek ports reports, find the girl U want to hantam\nFour, go find the channel of the ports\nFive, text OKT and go kongkek.", "veteran cheongster advice ni", "Pls let me know which support group to join"], ["If you go report police you\u2019ll be laughed \ud83d\ude02then case closed"], ["Go to horni jail :26563:"], ["nah its bullshit...just ignore them"], ["Tak de apa la bro. Dah gi cari lain"], ["Lolololol if they are real gangster, they wont wasted time on such silly misunderstanding. If gang masuk, its due to really intense conflict or backstab. Nothing to worry about, these are just small cock scammers."], ["Nahhh nothing to worry about, just a scare tactics. Next time find the legit service lol. Dont try locanto haha"], ["Stop getting scammed. Search up Lclycity, use that and find what you need. If you have any questions feel free to pm me."], ["later got messaged (on WhatsApp) by some guy telling me that customers are mad\nWait... What customer? Aren't you the customer? \ud83e\udd23"], ["Don\u2019t worry bro. They won\u2019t waste time for somethinng that doesn\u2019t bring much income for them."], ["I'm considering reporting this to the police soon, and telling my dad.\n\ud83d\ude05\ud83d\ude05\ud83d\ude05 Damn noob gonna tell his dad he tried to book a hooker online BRUHHHHH"], ["just go to the proper shops upstairs lah", "What has Malaysia come to?! There are shops like this?! This is disgusting! Where are these shops located? Like where?? I need to warn my friends and family and kids not to go near these terrible shops!"], ["Why lately banyak is horni ah ? :26558:"], ["My cousin also experienced the same thing. He called me from some hotel room (that he booked for that \"service\") because he was scared. The girl never showed up at all, instead he got threatened by someone via phone call/chat to bank in some money, or else they'll come after him.\nI guess nothing happened to him, because he never told me what happened after that. Unless you shared your personal info with that \"girl\", you don't have to be worried bro."], ["Speaking of triads, y'all remember the single dad that got murdered in the middle of a street by some triad ah lian wielding a sword? Apparently he was in a relationship with a triad boss' girl or something? What happened to that? Nobody got captured right? Crazy."], ["next time just go on tinder ayoo"], ["Has OP masturbated before this? If so, then congrats OP is no longer a desperate virgin, says some sifu."], ["So no sex?"], ["Dude, relax. Block all and move on. Nothing will happen"], ["Honest opinion? : you\u2019re a wuss\nSecond opinion: if you are socially awkward don\u2019t waste your time doing this, go meet proper girls. Be genuine and be good, you will find your happiness\nSorry for the initial message: that one for try hard bad boi"], ["I lost count how many times in this sub, I read so many help-me post from sexually desperate, horny or worse, both, men."], ["Ignore it, they were probably out to scam you if you had met up. Find a girl that's independent, and not linked to some scum bag living off their earnings."], ["Dude, unless it was loan shark, or you just had unsettle fight with some actual yakuza in some club, you can just totally ignore those petty extortion. You are just easy target for these scammer peoples."], ["100% scam and try to scared u. Next time don\u2019t contact online service girl, cannot be trusted. Better go direct to shop lol"], ["I heard a similar story. But worse. One guy booked a girl for outcall via an online agent. The girl was delivered but after the session, the agent came and extorted more money from him. Also dont believe the pics on the Internet. Nobody wants to put up their real pics on the Internet and scream sex service."], ["Most likely scammers from indon, chill."], ["Am I in dejavu or I saw this last week"], ["Better scared now than getting diseases"], ["Don't worry my friend. It's just a scare scam method to threaten you for more money.\nJust block and they can't do anything else to you.\nIf you're desperately looking, just find some massage parlour around KL area lol. Don't go through shady WhatsApp etc"], ["No offence. But you're a little fry monetary wise.\nNot worth the effort chase, just threat here and there and hopefully they can shake up money from you.\nThere are far more lucrative grey/black market activities to call in the big guns. Like you know human trafficking."], ["Thinking with didi only"], ["Luckily, i never gatal"], ["This is why you need post nut clarity"], ["I think I've answered a similar question a week ago, so I am going to copy and paste the crux of it:\n\"Contracts or agreements concerning illegal activities are not legally binding and enforceable in this country. Since it's about hookers, it's certainly not legal, and certainly not legally enforceable.\"\nYou did well by blocking the threatening calls and messages. These people have no legal standing of any sort regarding this non existing transaction. I do not believe that they will provide any alleviating remedies to your situation, it's inconceivable.\nAs long as you did not give out your address, or banking details, all they have going for them is your phone number. Keep it that way, and keep blocking any threatening calls and messages. They usually won't keep this up forever.\nIf you report this, the police will most likely write a report about it. They may or may not call you next of kin to verify the details. Considering your current age and social standing, or maybe religious orientation, you may find such an option unpalatable.\nIf you are truly desperate, u/ kenakalan's advice in this comment chain is actually reliable. As usual, due diligence before any choice is the correct way forward."], ["If you want to look for sex service go look on twitter, there are more trusted people because you deal with the girls directly"], ["Just ignore it and don\u2019t ever think about it. If anyone reached out to you for real. Then only you make police report about it. Just assume incident trying to book a girl never happened. Once you regain your confidence in future. You can try again."], ["Next time Jack off first...u need post nut clarity"], ["haha, no gang worth their salt gonna mess with teenager over this simple issue.\nNo worries, probably the other side just a ikan bilis. Chill."], ["It's a scam! Nobody is after you. It's a scam being used worldwide. Don't worry"], ["You\u2019re in trouble boy. Can I have your stuff ?"]]}
+{"title": "/r/malaysia daily random discussion and quick questions thread for 04 January 2024", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xsh9b/rmalaysia_daily_random_discussion_and_quick/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": [], "header": "This is r/malaysia's official daily random discussion and quick questions thread. Don't be shy! Share your joys, frustrations, random thoughts and questions. Anything and everything is welcome.\nApa tanda si pinang kelat,\nBila dimakan terasa malan,\nApa tanda orang beradat,\nBila Monyets berdebat dengan sopan.\nDad joke: I just lost 20% of my couch.\nOuch.", "comments": [["Minor announcements:\nmonyet.cc: Check out our Malaysian Lemmy community! (why?)\nSPM Megathread: Updated 2022 with SPM resources such as trial papers, modules, notes and more!\nMental health wiki: A list of mental health services in Malaysia\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns."], ["Is life meant to be a series of \"today I'll change my life\"s until you die?"]]}
+{"title": "Not wrong for govt MPs to retract support for Anwar, says Sanusi", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xkuvs/not_wrong_for_govt_mps_to_retract_support_for/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Politics"], "header": "The Kedah menteri besar says this is because the earlier decision by five opposition MPs to back Anwar Ibrahim\u2019s government is considered constitutional.", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Government will re-evaluate J-Kom functions", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xj6z9/government_will_reevaluate_jkom_functions/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Govt dismantling of DNB's single wholesale network model bodes well for MNOs' earnings, dividends \u2014 Kenanga", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xh9sp/govt_dismantling_of_dnbs_single_wholesale_network/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "", "comments": [["\"Kenanga also said the transition from SWM to DN marks the removal of unfair pricing arising from DNB's monopoly, and enhanced network roll-out efficiencies with the second 5G network.\"\nCan't wait to see telco definition of fair price later like how affordable 4G is with amazing world class 4G speed."]]}
+{"title": "Fishing spots in negeri sembilan", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xerpm/fishing_spots_in_negeri_sembilan/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "Hi I just wanna know what are the best spots in N9 to go fishing maybe somewhere at seremban but I would like a lake or something where I can go.", "comments": []}
+{"title": "In Melaka, former accounts executive gets 24 years\u2019 jail for CBT totalling over RM680,000 | Malay Mail", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xjdwx/in_melaka_former_accounts_executive_gets_24_years/", "num_comment": 20, "flairlabel": [], "header": "CBT makan RM680k gets 24 years jail... meanwhile somebody had makan over USD4.5 billion only gets 12 years...", "comments": [["meanwhile\u2026", "The Razak family would use this and sell this as nft and use the profits money to bribe the judge and jury. And excuse my and"], ["she will only serve 4 years la...fucking moronic headlines.", "The Ayer Keroh Sessions Court today sentenced a former accounts executive to 24 years in prison after the woman pleaded guilty to six counts of breach of trust and misappropriating funds totalling over RM680,000 four years ago.\nUnless we are illiterate or not in the same page, or there is a typo in the original news, please explain where and how did you deduce that she will only serve 4 years in prison ?", "Read till all the way down, after her lawyer pleaded the sentence since shes a single mom with 3 school kids", "you are right, motherfuckers Malay Mail clickbait moronic headlines for high testosterone hairy tits and nasty unwashed balls."], ["How many sessions of C&B torture can you get for 680k?", "I have no idea how much it costs per session in Malaysia. Probably more than enough to make you worry if you might permanently damage something", "How many sessions\nYes"], ["Wait.... Who stole USD4.5bil? What is this random number?", "Try Google: 4.5 billion corruption malaysia\nAnd see the search results"], ["Remember the Khir Toyo case? Compare that with the case of the jobless father jailed for shoplifting sardines to feed his kids."], ["i can only think about cok n bol torture...", "Haha, you seemed experienced. Mind sharing your exciting experience?"], ["read la letard. She probolly got repeated masuk dalam offences that's why longer sentences", "Yeah, but the \"other\" guy also had many more multiple charges filed against him and the amount is much much larger...the only difference is that the guy is rich and powerful.", "Becoz that person is Bosskur......:)", "you mean fatty jho? That greasy fck*r indeed should be sentence to death. His whole family should pay the freakin interest that piled up overtime instead of using tax payer money"], ["CBT makan RM680k gets 24 years jail... meanwhile somebody had makan over USD4.5 billion only gets 12 years...\nMalaysia ah? Haiyoooo, geleng-geleng kepala lorrr..."], ["Hehey tolong jgn probok"]]}
+{"title": "OPV1 to boost MMEA's readiness in safeguarding national waters: Home Ministry", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xdgpg/opv1_to_boost_mmeas_readiness_in_safeguarding/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Where to watch wayang kulit shows?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xa9cz/where_to_watch_wayang_kulit_shows/", "num_comment": 7, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Preferably somewhere around KL & Selangor. I think they're pretty rare nowadays. I'm into Nusantara art but don't really know where to look. I've only ever been to museums (cool, but not really interactive).", "comments": [["Look out for Istana Budaya."], ["Kulit what now? Foreskin Show?", "Check it out. It used to scare the crap out of me when I was younger but now it's pretty cool.", "Shadow puppets.. why Didn't you said it in English \"malay's shadow puppets\"", "Because it's name is actually wayang kulit?", "Because in Malaysia, \"wayang kulit\" is supposed to be understood already... unless you are a foreigner and/or don't speak Malay...?\nMan, now is it that rare already?", "Because im only partly colonized \ud83e\udd2a\ud83e\udd18\ud83c\udffc"]]}
+{"title": "What gifts/souvenirs should I buy in KL?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x9s0x/what_giftssouvenirs_should_i_buy_in_kl/", "num_comment": 9, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "I googled and the results were only durian chocolate, coffee, tea and dried seasoning but I'm still confused. Are there any traditional items imbued with local identity that are suitable to buy as gifts? Or does anyone have any recommendations? Please give me the detailed address if possible.", "comments": [["Boh Tea is Malaysian - plenty at supermarkets.\nOr get batik. There's a spot behind Royal Chulan Hotel, Karyaneka", "Is batik a decorative fabric or clothes made from batik?", "Both, though the commentor was probably referring to clothes made from Batik.", "Both - you can buy the cloth version, frame it and hang it up on the wall, or get them that's already been sewn into clothes. Shirts for men, and traditional wear (baju kurung, kebaya etc) for ladies.\nI don't recall much but if you're lucky at Karyaneka they might sell batik-motif purses and bags.", "thanks"], ["Honestly? Just go crazy at Pasar Seni/Central Market", "thanks a lot"], ["Lots of lots of Gardenia products"]]}
+{"title": "MET MALAYSIA - Laporan Cuaca 3 Januari 2024 (pagi)", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x7rr1/met_malaysia_laporan_cuaca_3_januari_2024_pagi/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "", "comments": []}
+{"title": "UK/Australia master with IMU cert", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xnmfl/ukaustralia_master_with_imu_cert/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": [], "header": "As an alternative plan, I plan to pursue my master's degree overseas after I graduate from my bachelor's. So I am curious about the possibility of applying to top universities in the UK or Australia(such as UCL, KCL, the University of Melbourne, the University of Sydney, etc) if I go to IMU without going to their partner schools degrees which increases the competition.\nAs an alternative plan, I plan to pursue my master's degree overseas after I graduate from my bachelor. So I am curious about the possibility of applying to top universities in UK or Australia(such as UCL, KCL, the University of Melbourne, University of Sydney, etc) if I go to IMU without going to their partner schools.\nAlso if possible can anyone tell me any scholarships that can be provided for dentistry plsss. Thank you\u2764\ufe0f\u2764\ufe0f", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Anwar Ibrahim, Malaysia\u2019s prime minister, is wasting his opportunity - Having sought the top job for decades, he is making a hash of it (The Economist)", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x3taf/anwar_ibrahim_malaysias_prime_minister_is_wasting/", "num_comment": 56, "flairlabel": ["Politics"], "header": "", "comments": [["Screencap of the article\n<image>", "Doing the god\u2019s work indeed my friend. Thank you."], ["Fully agreed.\nLOL @ nonsense of \"reforms too fast\". Anwar is fucking up his reforms even in the past 12 months.\nRe-appointing Azam Baki. Absolute shithead who is as corrupt as the people he prosecutes and otherwise is incompetent as the top anti-corruption enforcement officer. Even the Judiciary hates Azam. No wonder Muhyiddin was acquitted in six months!\nRe-appointing Idrus Harun. Lost his footing after Zahid DNAA, Muhyiddin acquittal, 7 month absent teacher case, etc. That six-month extension butchered Anwar's judgement.\nWasted a year with first-term PKR MPs as Ministers of Education & Health. One already replaced, itself is a fucking indictment. You waited 20+ years to become PM and your PKR Health Minister barely lasted a year. How do you know so little about your party's own MPs?\n13+ months later, the UG has failed to provide its promised Joint Manifesto. This has caused many unforced errors: local elections spat between UMNO & DAP, zero ability to deliver on promises (because GE15 promises \"aren't relevant\" anymore lmao), GLC appointments withdrawn and immediately returned.\nCompletely unexplained delays on whistleblower protection & Ombudsman. Without these, you lose rural communities and urban reformers and corruption cases. I expect both bills to be significantly watered down with loopholes, just like the citizenship for Malaysian mothers.\nPoor rural outreach: with urban amateurs at Education & Health, cannot expect them to figure out key rural problems, but seriously, rural areas are just as shitty to work in as before: zero enforcement of minimum wage, abusive bosses, ultra-slow development, open secret corruption, etc.\nPoor UG outreach: UMNO & DAP still hate each other and selling the whole \"this is for unity and stability\" has worn out its welcome when little changes on the ground. You can't fight PN if your own racial animosity is equal to PN without the teeth. It looks more like political expediency to enter Putrajaya and less for the rakyat.\nInternally inconsistent. That's not bad necessarily, but it belies that there is no real vision. First we hate Azam, then we help him. First we halt all 3R, then we have little 3R enforcement. First we pass an AHL, then blame PN for adding loopholes, then never actually close the loopholes now you have a 2/3 majority. First Zahid has to call his Defence, then DNAA. First fight rural Sabahans and threaten their families on absent teachers, then protect the teacher once the High Court finds him actually fucking absent.", "somebody is keeping the receipt.", "Upvoted for saying it as it is. No political will to see things through = terrible leader. Less time politicking (PAS possibly joining, palestine support), more reforms.", "Absolutely disappointed - remember how promising it all looked when we got UMNO out. \ud83d\ude14", "We know he bullshit way too much when lots of his policy are meme using his own clips.\nYou know he is yet to prove his competency when all he could say at least they are better than PN. Without much actual proof.\nWhats worse is, they hyping up the wrong thing.", "So to make it short: he just want the leadership position, just like Muhyiddin, Hadi Awang, and Azmin crave to be a prime minister", "Did people not see this coming? He's only heading PKR and taking an anti-Mahathir/UMNO stance because it's the only way he can win votes.", "We gives him a lot of chance to make changes so we can decide on the next election whether should he stays or not? My ass and my guts? Zero chances. we're dealing with lesser than 4 + more evils.\nFor our \"future boy\" Saddiq? I'll let him stay in Political purgatory, I don't want him to fuck up the odds of PN's winning.", "And where did Hadi Awang say he wants to become Prime Minister as Anwar?", "hari ni kahwin takkan besok nak beranak:26554:", "Happens more than you think nowadays haha", "Full year already beranak tho. Beranak took 9 months+ only.", "i don't think it's anwar's choice to reappoint azam. it's azam who holds the cards. he has all the dirt on all the polliticians and more.\neven before anwar as PMX there was a time where they wanted to replace azam, that didn't work. he's way more powerful than most people know.", "See, that's the problem: Anwar spent 30+ years railing against corruption. That was Anwar's choice to focus on anti-corruption as his message to voters.\nBut now that Anwar has a chance to act differently, it appears he had no real strategy, no real plan, nothing in his mind or his Cabinet or his coalition on how to implement it. He is making the exact same failures as everyone else before him: losing his own message.\nIf Anwar didn't have a strategy of how to deal with corrupt public servants, then he massively oversold some pie in the sky mentality. Removing corrupt public servants is basically job #1 on day #1 of any anti-corruption initiative.\n//\nAnyways, Azam isn't some bulletproof man. Once you remove Azam, there's little he can do. His influence wanes as soon as he's no longer in charge of MACC. And, trust: there's an anti-Azam faction. He's lost many, many times in Court.\nMACC has enough dirt on Azam.\nSo does the SC.\nSo do the police.\nThe other problem is, it's likely Zahid had a role in choosing the next MACC Chief, according to the PH + BN joint resolution.", "you can't say he's not doing anything. coming in like a superhero and kicking out bad people left, right and center is not going to work.\nthese things need to be worked out in the background before making drastic moves.\nall the rakyat wants is iron man to come and blast the bad guys, reality doesn't work that way. especially in politics. worse still in fragile coalitions like this.", "Can\u2019t do anything if you still have no power. Sheraton move is a clear cut case. MPs can be bought/blackmailed. And we the people also are divided and can be bought and \u201credpilled\u201d. What chance does Anwar have or any of the PM. Even our bapa kronism also lose. Nobody has a chance at all. They have to be really popular to all races and religion to be able to change anything. Muda tried but they were far in over their head. Boomer got generation and generation of experience. Eventually MUDA collapse on their own and bit the redpill. People need to open their eyes. As how Malaysian see Mexico Zimbabwe Colombia corruption are too far gone where people have no chance to reform. Same je ngn malaysia. Too mucg tgk TV I think. The people lost plain and simple. All hail the oligarchs and capitalist. Expecting change is stupid. It has happen from day one of our human history. Sejak manusia pndai cucuk tanam. The only action for an actual reform of the government can only be made by the masses. But remember the price is \ud83d\ude35.\nHistory doesn\u2019t repeat itself but it rhymes."], ["Turns out he's not too different from your average politician. His accomplishments during the 90s overrated. I think most of those accomplishments due to M instead of him and this guy just lucky he was in the government back then.\nNow nobody to carry him and he has no excuses left. Most alarming problem is he literally ditched Reformasi just to stay in power. All the promises Reformasi supposed to fulfill already broken in this 12 months. Corruption and cronyism full flow.", "me, being an old guy and following anwar since the late 70s:", "Me, in my mid-20s but not completely ignorant of our country's political history:", "What was the alternative to this? Keep in Umno in power?", "Problem is, M is also overrated, and sowed seeds for a lot of problems of today, be it political or policy wise.", "M got some pros to go on. Anwar has his cons but not his pros. At least the economy part non existent and wanna dual wield PM + FM portfolio that even M not insane enough to do because it screams insecurity."], ["rather than focus on economy he choose hamas palestin .", "I'm glad I'm not the only one has this view. I'm surprised this comment survived and not downvoted into oblivion.\nAnd remember the case where teachers in the national schools organized a parade participated by the students with replicas of weapons, and the Minister of Education says the ministry will investigate. But so far it has been dead silence.", "rather than focus on economy he choose hamas palestin .\nDid he have a choice? Let me state very clearly. Malaysians love HAMAS more than their own kids. I say that because they are willing to risk the entire Malaysian economy (US is Malaysia's third largest trading partner and a major source of FDI) in order to support a clearly and openly terrorist organization. Malaysians love HAMAS so much that the education minister got on stage and parliament and was hysterical about her HAMAS solidarity week. Malaysians love HAMAS so much they were willing to give scholarships to HAMAS students that they denied to their own fellow Malaysians.\nA leader has no choice if his followers are all intoxicated. You try to talk sense to them and they'll just beat you to death, you might as well play along.\nDon't misinterpret what I have said above. It is not intended as incitement. It is an observation of facts on the Malaysian ground. It is simply true and factual that the Malaysian public are drunk on the HAMAS koolaid, so there's nothing any leader that wants to stay in power can do. Any attempt to lead them away from the HAMAS path will result in the leader being removed from power.\nIf you ask a typical Malaysian, is there anything that HAMAS can do that would result in you ending your support for them, the answer is nothing. HAMAS literally can do no wrong according to the typical Malaysian."], ["ahh the good old reform paradox\npeople want reform untill the reform comes (see PH's first term, Najibs GST term & Pak Lahs petrol term)\nsecondly malaysians have this weird expectation where our politicians are seens as messiahs and saviors of the common man.", "Yeah, Anwar isn\u2019t great, but people\u2019s expectations of him are unnecessarily high. And most that want quick changes really don\u2019t understand that was why PH\u2019s first term failed.\nOn the other hand, BN and PN are just expected to do shit and most people will whine but will also say oh well what can we do.", "most folks dont understand policies have cost\nfolks just want the benefits but not the costs, so things cannot change that easily"], ["In my opinion, putting in reforms too fast was a key trigger for the collapse of PH's first term. It just wasn't popular, despite its necessity. It hurt too many people, from the regular Malaysians to the corrupt businessmen funding projects.\nI still don't see reformasi as completely dead. Abolishment of mandatory death penalty, stalking law, fiscal responsibility act were passed in 2023, very important if minimally impactful laws.\nThe laws that I expect that needs to be passed by the Madani government by 2026 before I call reformasi dead are separating the AG and PP, Ombudsman law, and Freedom of Information Act. If none of these happen, then yes I agree reformasi is dead.", "IMHO, I think it's the same root problem between PH 1.0 and this UG now, just a different flavour: miss the obvious reforms because none of these PH Ministers actually know 1) what reforms are most helpful to the rakyat (not to the Minister) and 2) how to sell reforms to communities that need them (aka rural, B40, and public servants).\nThere's all this talk to get rid of hardcore poverty, help rural communities, etc. But rural communities need basic institutional reform so badly: PN never did shit. Yet now, the UG doesn't even talk about institutional reforms to rural communities.\nI always go back to a lack of serious whistleblower protection reforms.\nWhistleblower protection reform is such an obvious win. Helps prosecute corruption cases, helps stop rural corruption, helps people feel safer in their communities, helps schools, hospitals, clinics, contracts, mega-projects, infrastructure, etc. Every time a whistleblower exposes a case, another big positive news cycle for Madani.\nAnd whistleblowers, ironically, risk their lives and they help the Government (who else does that except soldiers) and they've been resoundingly slapped in the face by this UG.\nOther great institutional reforms for ordinary rakyat, but you'll rarely find a PH (or BN or GPS or GRS) MP ever bring it up:\nthe noted Public Ombudsman \ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d\nminimum wage enforcement\ncrackdown on extremely absent teachers, teacher bullies, teacher pedophiles, etc.\nactual enforcement of ultra-racist epithets\nanti-SLAPP legislation to stop people getting bulldozed by lawyers", "The least he could do is abolish Akta Sakit Hati."], ["But the election is not due until 2027. And Mr Anwar\u2019s apparent abandonment of reform has a cost. It is reinforcing Malaysians\u2019 growing disillusion with politics. And how could it not? Their long-promised champion of change right now looks more like an obstacle to it.\nThis is a worry, especially as PAS has seemingly grabbed a good chunk of the youth. The #1 rule of a political party: make a base -> take care of your base, focus on your base, deliver what you promised to your base. Without your base, politicians often can't reinvent themselves quickly enough for the next election.\nI still laugh that Fadhlina, who is transparently trying to entice PN voters, is losing PH's base pretty damn fast. How did PN voters appreciate Fadhlina's pro-PN policies?\n\u201cWhat\u2019s interesting is that teachers used to openly support BN-Umno, and have now switched to PN and PAS. In our interviews, they even admitted that they liked (current) Education Minister (Fadhlina Sidek) but still chose to support PN,\u201d he said.", "I still laugh that Fadhlina, who is transparently trying to entice PN voters, is losing PH's base pretty damn fast. How did PN voters appreciate Fadhlina's pro-PN policies?\nSomething I read once - In a race to be more PAS than PAS, PAS will win every time\nCause why go for the imitation when you can get the Original Recipe?", "Reminded me of what my lecturer jokingly warn us not to copy each in the assignments. \u201cIt\u2019s not i dont trust you, I just don\u2019t trust your friends\u201d\nThe future for ourselves might be in the hands of others because our numbers is never enough.", "Not much of a worry. I feel that we\u2019re at a political impasse. PN is reaching voter plateau, so is Pakatan. 66 years of independence only to reach a dead end in politics.\nWe need a new younger Anwar to come in and tip the scale of balance."], ["He is not wasting his opportunity. He is doing exactly what he has always wanted to do as PM. It's just that what he wanted to do is different from what he said he wanted to do. And you guys believed him."], ["He did manage to contain inflation without increasing interest rates like previous government. The downside is, that made ringgit less attractive. Still, we are seeing ringgit recovering, very slowly."], ["i m really glad that there are people keeping a close tab on him.\ni ll play the devils advocate tho.\nHOW could PH have remained in power if it had not shaken hands with BN?\na lot of talk is thrown around about corruption and the like. anwar had 2 choices. to maintain the integrity of his party and potentially losing the vote OR shake hands with BN.\nwinning is NOT easy. he got majority but did not win enough seats. does anyone here think anwar WANTS to shake hand with BN?\nalso anwar has the nice job of CLEANING THE SHIT LEFT BEHIND. for sure it will take a huge amount of work.\nif you've never worked in multi person project before you really are blessed. sometimes one staff in charge of one particular thing took shortcuts and left a pile of shit in the corner of a room. its like being the project head and having to learn how everything works and finding out that things arent adding up. how did the previous guy solve X problem? after much digging you found he never solved it but instead took all of it and hid it in the corner of a room behind some shelves. AND YOU ONLY FOUND OUT BY ACCIDENT much later when doing some \"spring cleaning\".\nthats just 1 example.\ni am 100% supporting anwar. but i do understand that he is very flawed, but as flawed as he is, as a NON i have no choice but to trust and support him.\ntbh i find it really sad that people would just learn to criticize him without any room for understanding or benefit of doubt.\nhe definitely is not free from criticism but its too easy to just choose to shoot without understanding the circumstances.\nnever forget. our country has been under BN rule \"forever\". you cant expect a new party to just replace BN overnight or over a few years", "as a NON i have no choice but to trust and support him.\nNo you have many other choices.\nnever forget. our country has been under BN rule \"forever\". you cant expect a new party to just replace BN overnight or over a few years\nThat's why we need to invest in many smaller parties.\nThe problem is the prisoners dilemma.\nThe best scenario for the public is if we can break all the power bases of the political parties where the progressive vote is split into at least 2 political coalitions and the conservative vote is similarly split.\nBut progressive voters like you won't invest in other parties because you're scared that the conservative forces won't similarly split their vote. Conservative voters also won't split their vote because they're scared of cina/DAP rule.\nThe only way to break this cycle is to push for proportional representation.\nIf PH won't do it, need to enmasse vote for an alternative progressive option. Similarly if PN won't do it, vote enmasse for BN or Pejuang.", "i like america because we can learn a lot from them. america shows us how people who have learned to minmax/optimize strategies to win at the game of democracy.\nmany small parties exist to fight for different things. but you know what happens to them? they're WORTHLESS. when you're up against larger parties, they have such a small amount of supporters they can barely gain enough power.\nso what happens is small parties realize this and band together. this has been quickly optimized to the point there are TWO parties. left or right. if you want to start your own party, your party is most likely toothless as it will be in such a minority it cant get anywhere. the best bet is to join one of the other parties rather than form a new third party. unless of course you have enough supporters that you can actually become a serious threat. that is NOT easy, especially when other parties have already formed alliances.\nso yeah for sure, Nons have other options but to be very honest those options are akin to throwing your vote away. they are not strong enough to lead anywhere.\nso what REAL choice do we have? UMNO/PN are very pro malays. PAS are pro ISLAM.\ni m from kelantan. i know for a fact that ALL shops in kelantan must close during friday prayer. its very hard for me to believe that PAS has nons best interest at heart. for sure, kelantan has a lot of thai buddhist temples, but that was under the allahyarham nik aziz's time. i dont like PAS but i like Nik.\nUMNO and PN... lets just say i know that in UiTM they have a session that teaches the students to be very pro malay. UMNO and PN would want more things to be more like UiTM where they take care of malay interests as much as possible before others.\ndont forget. after PH won, all the \"malay dominated\" parties woke up. they finally realized they're weak. the nons actually have power. they use it as a rallying cry to rally more support for pro malay parties.\nmalays are the majority. simple as that.\nPH is the party that has the most power/influence that can actually help the nons.\nat the very end you mentioned BN and pejuang as candidates for the nons. are you fucking kidding me? are you seriously fucking kidding me? BN was headed by Dr. M. even when he left he puppeteered BN from behind the scenes. Pejuang is directly formed by Dr. M.\nif you've been living under a rock you probably dont know that Dr M. has said a lot on social media really showing how he REALLY feels about the nons.\nno fucking thanks.", "You look at america and think that's a good democracy.\nI look at the Netherlands and see what they've done with proportional representation with a constitutional monarchy.\nat the very end you mentioned BN and pejuang as candidates for the nons.\nNo. I meant thats what the conservatives can consider as an alternative to voting for PN. FYI, there's conservative voters on r/malaysia. Not just nons.\nUltimately you decide whether you want a continued state of two sides that continue claiming to represent a country split down the middle like the US, or a country that has a democracy that more accurately reflects the diverse viewpoints of the public.", "lol i did not say its good democracy, i said i like america because we can learn from them. its like seeing a car crash and say look, thats how you get into a car crash.\ni purposely mentioned AS A NON, i have no other choices and you came in to say YES I DO HAVE CHOICES.\nfor sure, i do have choices but the choices you listed out are definitely shit choices to a NON.\nconservatives? why did you suddenly involve them? i SPECIFICALLY mentioned \"NONs\" because my voice does not represent conservatives. i do not represent all NONs but i believe my post represents what NONS can agree to.\nfor sure there are conservative voters on r/malaysia but it has nothing to do with what my \"NON POV\". you might as well say PAS is a good option then when i retort you can say \"well in malaysia there are many muslim people\".\nthere country is already split into two. malays and the nons. we are already more or less mirroring america.", "And what I advocated for to break the cycle is proportional representation.\nYou want to continue in the cycle in a broken game? Be my guest. I dare to change the system. I'm a NON as well.\nIf you read my previous responses, I set out why we're stuck in this cycle. Its the prisoners dilemma.\nThe public can't choose the best choice for them as they are all afraid of what happens if the other side wins.\nI talked about the conservatives to present a more complete picture but evidently that has escaped you. Perhaps English is not your preferred language?\nNak cakap bahasa mesia pun boleh\n\u8981\u8bb2\u534e\u8bed\u4e5f\u53ef\u4ee5,\u968f\u4fbf\u4f60\u3002", "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon\u2019t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon\u2019t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks.", "Proportional representations sounds like a big joke if many Malaysians votes in parties that focus on race and religion as their party message.\nVoting is just a stop gap. Better to vote the party that stops the shittier party because once they start pilling up shit, no reforms can be made because someone waste time to clean up their mess."], ["Ph 1.0 speed run of reform\nAlso ph1.0: why we losing vote?", "R/malaysia never learns. Always want to take the easy route."], ["this is the problem when he decide to want a PM by working with UMNO especailly the head is corrupt.\nHe burn the reputation, he build for so many years, same can be said for DAP, suddenly look like MCA 2.0.", "He never left UMNO willingly in the first place. He was forced out. Why would he not go crawling back to UMNO the moment they wanted him back?"], ["We don't want old men running this country anymore. They are not aligned to our beliefs and values. 20 years of just observing the political arena only to screw it all up. Maybe we do need an iron fist to rule us all since we're so forgiving towards these clowns"], ["Is this an AI generated article? Why isn't there an author's name anywhere lol. The writing style also feels a bit off"]]}
+{"title": "Bringing items from Singapore", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xgvg8/bringing_items_from_singapore/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Hi there, have a few questions.. not sure if anyone can help as i dont see much posts on this\nI will be working during the first day of CNY so will be going home on the 2nd day of CNY from SG via bus, I want to bring some CNY goods from SG for my relatives as by the time I reach back to Msia most of the shops will be closed then..\nAnyone knows if im able to bring back these stuffs from SG? Like CNY Hampers which consists of bottled bird nest, dried scallops etcs all the typical CNY items, and was thinking to bring back a pack of bakkwa from SG from a shop quite famous, will I be able to pass through the customs?", "comments": [["Keep the resits, you might need to pay custom Tax when you pass by the immigration.\nBakkwa seems a little difficult, the worse they can do is ask you to throw it away."]]}
+{"title": "Charity organisations will terrible/no websites", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xdq1t/charity_organisations_will_terribleno_websites/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": ["Science/ Technology"], "header": "Hello,\nMy friend wants to work on a project in where he helps charities/NGOs digitalise their movements via websites. This is his personal project, he wants to help reputable causes while making his web development portfolio look nice.\nAny suggestions?", "comments": []}
+{"title": "Tak Nak Daftar PADU? Jaga-jaga, Dua Risiko Ini Menanti", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xb6u6/tak_nak_daftar_padu_jagajaga_dua_risiko_ini/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["TL;DR if you do not register you may miss out on subsidies and financial programs IF you qualify"], ["Isn't this the similar to the threat during MySejahtera period?\nIf you don't get vaccinated, you can't dine in or even go for grocery."]]}
+{"title": "Isteri cikgu, suami polis... Pasangan mengadu gaji habis bayar loan selepas beli Proton X70, belanja sebulan tinggal RM550", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xiy1q/isteri_cikgu_suami_polis_pasangan_mengadu_gaji/", "num_comment": 55, "flairlabel": ["Mildly interesting"], "header": "", "comments": [["cikgu dg 41 2 years working....gaji basic rm2k lebih. elaun got if dah confirm so total -/+rm2.5k kot.\nkonstabel lower than wife but elaun more kot. bil air and api free, elaun.\nbut if combine gaji, buy a house (both gomen, loan lppsa ada) better than buying an x70....\ntp buy a house tak leh bawa jalan2 tunjuk orang but x70 boleh bawak jalan2 tunjuk kami ni ada-ada.....this kind of mentality kot\nhuhuhuhu", "2 years working is not much diff than a fresh grad. At least wait until dg44 la..", "And/or mistaken access to loan is equal to affordability.", "Eh is it still that low ke? I was ug41 back in 2016 and earned about 3.2k (even with super low COLA cause I was posted to rural area \ud83d\ude43)", "Dh 3k kot. Starting dg41 maybe 2.4 or 2.6 already. Basic allowance 600"], ["that means kau tak mampu lah nak buat loan beli X70. pakai otak sekejap keluarkan kalkulator lepas tu kiralah sendiri sebulan banyak mana duit tinggal"], ["During my 1st internship, my supervisor drove an old Saga. No it wasn't a \"work car,\" it was his only car. He lived in a big house, though.\nIt's always so funny seeing nice cars parked in shitty neighborhoods. I understand if you work in sales and need to keep up appearances but as a graduate of automotive technology, cars are expensive, they make a new one every year, while yours break down. Everything about car tech is trying to slow down this cumulative damage. They're not something that gain value over time.\nTrying to impress people with your car is always a losing game unless you do it for yourself. If you're happy, good. If you're trying to show off, not good.", "your supervisor is a wise man. learn from him.", "Lots of sentimental value over dat old Saga. Too many memories tied to dat boxy car. The funny thing is my uncle recently refurbished his old '94 Saga Iswara to make it look & drive just like the first time he bought it. Them mechanics surely knew wat they're doin."], ["How do the banks approve their loans tho if their salary is like that? (Genuine question)", "Cause ada surat logo harimau", "Guarantor", "dokumen boleh buat punya"], ["kursus kahwin should include financial crash course if they dont already", "Better introduce it at primary or secondary level", "huh?? primary already have topics about debit, investment, dividend.. and want to add more headache", "Wait y'all learn it on primary? Damn during my time we don't have that. Only on secondary itu pun kalau amik subjek ekonomi @ perniagaan"], ["Wtf , nk pengsan rase baca ni"], ["Bercerita lanjut, wanita itu berkata dia dan suaminya masih belum berjaya membeli rumah, namun mereka mempunyai dua buah kereta.\n\ud83d\ude11\nAccording to Google, the cheapest X70 is RM98k.\nAlready have a car, and then they bought another one... what am I supposed to be sympathizing about?\nGuess I shouldn't be too harsh on them though, I just bought a new aircond for my master bedroom for RM2.5k \ud83d\ude05", "You're horrible at managing your finances\nNervously sweating\nThinking about buying a 3k helmet", "helmet\nMotorcycle helmet, VR helmet, or... ?", "Crusader's helmet to retake Jerusalem. Deus vult!", "I bought a RM2.5k 1.5hp aircond to replace an aging 2.5hp aircond I've used for the past 5 years. The savings on electricity alone means that it pays for itself in 10-15 months.\nThe newer airconds are really more efficient imo. Don't really feel much of a difference in terms of how cool the room is even with eco mode on.", "\"-an aging 2.5hp aircond I've used for the past 5 years.\" Stares at the half-broken aircond that is nearly the same age me", "Uh really should change it if you can bro.. Airconds supposedly lose 5% effectiveness per year. Plus the older models aren't exactly environmentally friendly.", "You don\u2019t pay your air conditioner for 9 years, plus paying road tax every year, not including service and maintenance. Also accidents involving aircond is either electrical burn or the roof collapse, so you don\u2019t need to buy air cond insurance.", "Sampah people", "You spend a lot of time in your bedroom (Like 7 hours of sleep on average). That being said my mattress alone cost 3k. . .", "I would rather buy a 5k mattress and 5k bed frame than buy 2 cars with leftover 550 every month... At least I don't need to pay maintenance and petrol to sleep 12 hours on the weekend."], ["belilah 2nd hand kalo gaji rendah", "Ada orang allergik kepada kereta 2nd hand", "New car seller dah lama merancang, amateur car enthusiast yg lalai"], ["Time to update PADU, no subsidy for X70 users with 2 cars :26554::26554::26554::26554::26554:"], ["Hmm, what sort of trickery did they do to get a loan approved with that sort of income? Doesn't make sense. Clickbait fake news?", "document could be forged"], ["Crazy ahh people willing to commit more than 20% for car loan repayments"], ["Only settle for X70? They should go for Honda CRV instead! Janji ada gaya dan dipandang mulia di mata jiran dan kenalan. Duit boleh cari."], ["Duit rasuah tu jangan beli ketum la polis oi."], ["Still boleh tahan kot. Jangan lahirkan anak sudah \ud83d\udc80"], ["As my buddy says \"duit die, suka dia. Makan nasi atau maggi pun ikut suka die\""], ["Maybe can use the car to be grab driver on free time"], ["'Saya sayang suami saya sebab dia bertanggungjawab dan rapat dengan anak-anak,\u201d' I lost count how many times mother/wives have problematic offspring, husband, boyfriend etc and yet, they lie to themselves to make themselves feel better by saying shit like this. Dumbo, if he is really bertanggungjawab like you said, he wouldn't put you into this hole."], ["I attended religious secondary school so most of my old friends are malays, and a lot of them are now govt servants - teachers mostly. They are really trigger happy with their loans- drive honda, volkswagen, buy 400k house some more.. even my friends in the O&G are a bit careful with the loans although they earn like 10 times the govt servants"], ["Tp why though bank sng approve loan kereta"], ["thats why corruption skyrocketing."], ["Well, many bought latest iPhone using more than a month of their salary\ud83e\udd37\nMany ppl otak masuk air."], ["Funfact to T20s\nThis people will get Subsidies to fund their lifestyle while you get nada"], ["ni jenis patut dimandulkan pasal iq single digit"], ["Saga is better"], ["I guess they can live inside the two cars now. \ud83e\udd26\u200d\u2642\ufe0f"], ["the car not moving ka? how the hell they can buy petrol or event touch n go balance?"], ["Working government does not mean it's easy to get loan approved, it's easy to get trapped in the long term with no way of getting out. Banks are okay with this because they know this person has a stable job, more insurance from them."], ["Car above like Myvi is a status symbol, they\u2019re super bad financially too as the price degrade.. better invest in better property lol.."]]}
+{"title": "KL litterbugs caught on CCTV", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x53uw/kl_litterbugs_caught_on_cctv/", "num_comment": 9, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "", "comments": [["Please take stern action against these people!"], ["Good, catch them mofos and teach them how to manage waste."], ["Fk all these foreign workers coming to Malaysia and dumping trash around. Their country is fk because of their stupidity but don't give them the right to come and fk it up for us Malaysian.\nWe can do it our self thank you very much. /s"], ["I wanna see the litter bugs doing 100 hours of community service. Put a placard over their necks while they are cleaning the streets.", "Or something obvious like a poop shaped hat", "That is very original. Need to try em on the litterbugs."], ["Fine and community service!! Ask them to pick up all the rubbish for 6 months!!\nNeed to do something about the homeless though. God the whole area near CM smells like piss, it's even worse than 90's druggies running around there :26559:"], ["so now we have to commit tremendous amount of resources in the police force to catch these idiots.\ngreat.", "There is AI camera installed to catch them in action. No need to station a human to do that."]]}
+{"title": "Suspend Padu until security flaws addressed: Former MITI deputy minister", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xavj0/suspend_padu_until_security_flaws_addressed/", "num_comment": 47, "flairlabel": ["Science/ Technology"], "header": "KUALA LUMPUR: The registration for Central Database Hub (Padu) should be temporarily suspended until security flaws are addressed, as it currently lacks the robustness for its intended objective.\nInvestment, Trade, and Industry (MITI) former deputy minister Dr Ong Kian Ming said those currently receiving government aid like Bantuan Tunai Rahmah (BTR) may provide inaccurate information in Padu.\n\"This is especially true for those with additional non-taxed income, such as rental income from owned properties.\nHe said that many users, including himself, are questioning the absence of data in several columns within Padu.\n\"This is perplexing, considering Padu is designed to consolidate information from various ministries and agencies, including the Inland Revenue Board (LHDN), the Social Security Organisation (Socso), the Employees Provident Fund (EPF), the National Registration Department (JPN) and so on,\" he added.\nOng stated that Economy minister Rafizi Ramli responded via Twitter, explaining that the information was not displayed due to security concerns related to potential hacking into Padu's servers.\nHe questioned the need for users to provide certain information in Padu when some of it is already accessible through government ministries and agencies.\n\"What if the information supplied is not the same as what is found in Padu's database and how does Padu verify the other information which is supplied by the user such as rental income from land or property?", "comments": [["The website like s*** . You can change government but people working inside are still the same. Want to guess how much that website cost?", "Agreed. Civil servants themselves needs an overhaul. Doesn't matter if the bosses (i.e, ministers) are A+, if the rest of the team are E... things won't change much. I've had employees leave good paying jobs (executive level) to goyang kaki in the govt.\nSack the bottom 20% and give the pay out to the top 20%. But it's impossible coz its racially motivated.", "Why only E not F :26554:", "Kasi chan", "That will be MYR 300,000,000, Sir. Please sign the cheque.\nMySejahtera allegedly cost MYR 300 million to build [1]. If we adjust for inflation ~10%, it should be at least MYR 330 million.\n[1] https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/616155"], ["You know that roast menteri talk show, that Rafizi wanted to do with PN cytros? I think he should do one with Ong Kian Ming (he suggested btw) to clear more about concerns behind PADU. Because I believe Ong Kian Ming can ask the right questions to Rafizi compared to the average interview who might not be familiar with the technicality", "I don't think he's any better. If you look at the twitter thread, even Ong Kian Ming erroneously (IMO, stupidly) asked people to sign up before their IC is registered by someone else. That's already a blunder, but I will admit he was quick to change and accept the opinions of others to suspend it instead.\nhttps://twitter.com/sybreon/status/1742089499604398553"], ["Tak Padu", "LEMBIK"], ["*grabs popcorn. :26554: Thank god I didnt participate.\nThis is expected from gov who use their own people build something like this within 7 months lol", "I'm B40 so more and less I am compelled to use PADU but I will wait till the last minute to register,seem too problematic if you want to be 1st user right now", "I watched the launching of PADU on tv. All that celebration for a half ass system. This is definitely clown gov.\n<image>"], ["Ong stated that Economy minister Rafizi Ramli responded via Twitter, explaining that the information was not displayed due to security concerns related to potential hacking into Padu\u2019s servers.\nDid I just read that correctly? \ud83e\udd23"], ["blacklist the company that build it and fire them lol", "There's no company though. Just a bunch of governments staff working on it at free times.", "the fck...", "Yeah they're working out of Rafizi's basement at gunpoint :26561:", "Outsourced to Invoke ? /s\nThey have 82 employees.\n\"It has 82 staff in 15 offices throughout the country, consisting of 71 full-time and 11 part-time employees. There are over 30 call center staff, who consist of the bigger majority, as well as statisticians, software developers, content developers, campaign strategists, fundraisers\"\n[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invoke_Malaysia"], ["if we want to wait until the system is perfect, then the system will never be launched.", "Basic security feature is not optional. If you cant provide that, dont launch. Particularly when it look like this system is mandatory to be participated by the malaysian.", "agree\nbut may I point out that most of the flaws have already been identified and patched only after day 1 thanks to public feedback.\nonly 230k person have registered out of 15 millions workers in Malaysia. That's only around 1%.\nso hopefully the rest 99% of us will have a more secure and smoother registration later on.\nknowing Rafizi, he probably used the Lean Startup method to improve things on the fly. Risky but effective. My 2 cents of course.", "There is a trade-off with things of course, but this is admittedly terrible. 1-2 cycles of testing and fixing can be done within 1-2 months.\nKudos to their attitude to accept criticism, but this isn't some scrappy start-up. These are real data from real Malaysians - and is another case of the government being lax with data privacy, as they have been in the past.", "They could\u2019ve done 3-4 months of testing and there will always be shit that can be found later. That is almost always the case with any software or system deployment. No matter government, private or even billion dollar companies.\nagree with the trade-off but like I said, risky but effective.\nI myself have not yet register. let the pawns go first lol", "They could\u2019ve done 3-4 months of testing and there will always be shit that can be found later.\nMinor bugs or performance issues are expected... but what they failed at are egregious...\nThey don't need to re-create the wheel with things like authentication. If they can't see a problem with just using IC number to change the pw or show the pw... this is already a failure at the design stage - that has somehow bypassed design review, security review, test case review, testing, test result review... It's not something like a wrong config, incompatible updates or being under-capacity... it's shit flowing down through every process.", "well it got fixed right? just in an hour.\nthat's my point. I agree the system sucks but this is one way to fix it rapidly. It's still in data collection phase and only around 1% have registered.\nHopefully by March it will be a lot tighter and only then will I register.", "the code is not written with security in mind. Standard operating procedure for api have user and limit the function call to what allowed by the user. If you write your api call correctly or just use design pattern that enforce security you never in circumstance where you are allowed to edit other people data.\nIt like building a skyscraper, you start at the foundation. You cannot start with a park then change your mind and build a skyscraper on top of the park.", "Only when public found out the bugs before criminals.. if a dev deliver a grade B project for a SME with 100 customer then fine. But it's a project meant for the entire country. We r talking about national security level thing here, the product should be grade S+ with minor bugs.", "Is the code for PADU open source? If not I think they could benefit from the code being open source", "Mission critical system shouldn't be launched half-baked.\nThey could have launch it in phases. Beta users, for government civil servants and accepting opt-in users that are willing to take the beta program, then run the beta until it is polished, especially all those obvious vulnerabilities and basic security features and standard are met, then only open for public.\nThey failed.\nAnd now the developers have to work around the clock to fix those vulnerabilities, which will introduce more vulnerabilities and technical debt because they need to meet the deadline and public pressure. It is a classic software engineering problem.", "They are doing it in phases. They did tests last year with DOSM and government agencies data.\nNow is for the public registration. We have until March to register. It's not like everyone have to register today. Ample time for feedbacks and improvements.\nsorry I might have missed it, what vulnerabilities did they find today?", "They are doing it in phases. They did tests last year with DOSM and government agencies data.\nNo, they did not. That's just integration, far from actual testing, pilot and beta releases. At this rate, I don't know if they applied unit-test or not, they most likely skipped it and just do the basic UI test and called it a day, expect the public to feedback, but they ignored the very fundamental principle - the private and confidential data is at huge risk of data breach. I remember read from a news that the system is conceived in seven months, collaboration of multiple government agencies.\nThe one vulnerability that get the most attention and reported is the authentication that allowed third party to use your MyKad number to change your password is a dead sentence. If this bug and vulnerability live in the system for the multiple phases of testing that you claimed they did, then it means they have no idea what they are doing to even conduct a proper beta release and test program, which bring another point, if this sort of a basic security function didn't get implemented correctly when rolling out to production to millions of users, what would the system security for the rest of the components in the system be ?", "they already did SPA but didn\u2019t find the issue then. It got fixed immediately after pointed out by one person who is a developer, not some random user. That\u2019s my point, if want to wait until it is perfect, it\u2019ll take forever. These initial rollout actually helps with the improvement.\nI myself have not yet registered. I will wait until it is much much better. Last minute registration maybe\nbtw found more vulnerabilities here pointed out by an expert\nhttps://x.com/tevanraj/status/1742328102280458564?s=46", "What's SPA ?\nI think you didn't understand the root of the problem.", "this is what separate the normal and exceptional company. kudos to rafizi that has the courage to change the software release taboo and dogma. just look what happen, rafizi singlehandedly push collaborative QAQC and bug check to everyone on the internet.\ndev team just standby and straight away deal with the problem pointed out by netizens with a immediate effect. no one in the whole world have this kind of vision to perfect and stress test the system on the go.\nyou guys take rafizi wisdom for granted and you guys will miss him when you lose him", "yeah yeah sarcasm I get it.\nrafizi sucks. system deployment should be perfect on day one. look at other companies. their dev teams, analyst and system support all are already on their way to the beach during deployment. its the most relaxing stage of the project! months of development done! QAQC test done! SPA done! nothing can go wrong during deployment! just click \u201cdeploy\u201d and wait for the cash to flow in! boss happy, team happy, users also happy!\nmende la rafizi ni. baik bagi syahirnomic je jadi menteri ekonomi", "Looks like someone never took a course in Methodology in Software Engineering", "Mechanical Engineering graduate with 7 years experience in IT related. It\u2019s quite okay, nothing exciting"], ["The system is obviously rushed. But then testing in production might be faster and less costly.\nIf want to fix the system, easily takes many many months of pen testing, development, etc", "Nah, man - the design itself has problems, it's just a fricking login/authentication - who the heck approved the flow, the security testing specs/strategies, etc. My armchair take: 1-2 cycles of testing and fixing can be done within 1-2 months at a relaxed pace, not many months. (In fact, if you do require 'many many months' to do it, it's a failure in itself)", "Yeah but thats just talking hindsight. They can release 1-2 months later and when problem occurs, you\u2019ll have the same take as well.", "Looking at the problem - it's already from the design level and anyone with some thought would've seen it. Like c'mon, anyone with an IC number can pre-register?... and with lists of IC and phone numbers being leaked .... sigh\nAnd the other issue - storing password in cleartext? C'mon. It's not like they're re-creating the wheel or best practices.\nIf there's no will to review the data flow, no will test it with an independent pilot group, and no will to fix it, then I guess if you could say no amount of testing/fixing minor things will help. Very cowboy approach - callous with people's data, especially ppl who trust the gov.", "Reminder: don\u2019t ever award any software project to this dude.", "How dare you! AGILE, mmkay????"], ["Nonsense. AGILE methodology is all about continuous improvement with incremental updates.\nYes, I have doubts with its security, but to say we have to suspend it is nonsensical - how are you gonna know issues that will occur if the product is not running?", "The dev team can work incrementally with an Agile methodology, but the decision to release to the customer or not belongs to the Product Owner - go back to agile 101. To answer your question - better testing and risk acceptance processes. The heck, doesn't seem like they've done a pen test or proper design review... they're even using staging servers on prod. This is not 'incremental updates with continuous improvement' at all.", "I'm not gonna fight you there because you're probably more right in this.", "Don't confuse Agile with basic security and authentication that secure the data of millions of citizens. They can do Agile all day for introducing new features, but don't fuck up the security that guard the data."]]}
+{"title": "Golongan T20 hantar anak ke MRSM untuk belajar erti kesusahan", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x5x7k/golongan_t20_hantar_anak_ke_mrsm_untuk_belajar/", "num_comment": 74, "flairlabel": ["Entertainment"], "header": "", "comments": [["not even a week into new year we have already have contender for the out of touch comment of the year:26554:", "Next articles:\nGolongan T20 mengguna LRT untuk belajar erti kesusahan\nGolongan T20 memasak maggi untuk belajar erti kesusahan", "Must try hard to buat T20 look like demon group of human. lol", "Tbh I feel like \"T20\" is too broad. If you live in the Klang Valley and you have 2-4 \"middle class\" office workers in a household (e.g: working parents, spouse, adult siblings, etc), you are probably also \"T20\". Because T20 is counted by household.", "Correct. The cutoff is Rm11.8k. So if you earn RM6k and your wife/husband also earn RM6k, you are a T20 household even if you individually dont feel like a T20.\nIf its a big family and there are 6 kids each earning RM2k and parents retired, well thats also a T20 household.", "He has no real friends from the actual T20. Someone should hook him up with Nazri Aziz maybe."], ["Lol give me a break, rich kids have their own circle and they never mingle outside of it. You want them to experience hardship? Send them to a run down and underfunded SMK, not to an elite boarding school.", "Yeah. And force them to use public transports just because. You can drop them off at the nearest hub, but the finishing journey must be via public transport.", "imagine they call grab from the hub to the school", "As long as the parents are determined enough, they can set a limited weekly/monthly budget. So each grab ride means 1 less fast food outing that kid can go with his friends. 5 rides means 1 less new game he can buy, or 1 less set of cosmetics for the ladies.\nThat can teach the kid opportunity costs. Something the rest of us always has to juggle, unlike them.\nAny loophole can be a teachable moment really.", "Eyh mrsm is a smart school but definitely not elite, there is elite mrsm which is the best of the best of mrsm but like 90% of them are outdated, like my smk school is alot bigger and more equipped than my mrsm which hasnt been upgraded since the early 90s"], ["I was from MRSM and T20 kids should not be sent to MRSM as they are ripe to be bullied or prime target of thief among the B40 students. Unless they can keep their T20 background discreet (which they usually fails) they wont be having a good time in school unless those MRSM are filled with T20 kids too.", "There is absolutely no way a kid who grew up in luxury can seamlessly integrate into a community of less advantaged folks. Humans are quite good at judging other humans based on the way they talk, eat, dress, behave, etc. And kids can be a terrifying bunch if you're not \"part of the gang\""], ["Well, using that logic, these kids would learn far more about kesusahan by studying at a sekolah pondok in the middle of nowhere.", "And get molested like every sekolah pondok students fair and square"], ["mansuhkan je lah MRSM ni. biar semua masuk sekolah kebangsaan. baru lah PIBG ada duit. baru lah tiba-tiba cikgu semua hadir. kementerian cadangkan tukar perabot tambah loker.", "I agree. Majority of students masuk SMK not MRSM. If you actually want your kids to role-play like they don't get 4- 5 figure allowance, SMK is better choice.\nOr maybe they don't dare? Too much kesusahan for their precious princes/princesses, is it? \ud83e\udd23"], ["If you want to teach your kids about \"kesusahan\" aka poverty, you are better off, sending your kids to live with a poor family for 6 months.\nMRSM, by any standards, lives like m20. Makan sahaja 6/7 kali sehari. Clothes are washed by an in-house dobi. Free transportation since class is close by. All school activities are paid for.", "Ikr? I mean, back then the point of giving B40s access to these boarding schools is because it takes better care of the kids than the parents could ever have (food, basic amenities, heck even clothing got sponsors sometimes, not to mention the occasional school that gives duit poket to really poor kids).\nSuddenly got T20 giving these statements. Really out of touch lol. I mean, they're basically saying what is normal for M40 is \"kesusahan\" for T20s."], ["What in the flying fuck. This people are the sole fucking reason why most of my old friends who are actually poor (including me lol) but excel in academics couldnt manage to get into mrsm.\nWhen i got in for second intake its just a fucking bunch of rich people who got way worse results than us. Theyre fucking proud for using cable, THEY EVEN APPLIED FOR BR1M, and flaunted when they got it? Holy fucking fuck im so pissed sial", "If there is a loophole or chance for corruption, 10000% malaysians will abuse it. Our subsidies, quotas, APs, everything has been abused by those who dont need it and dont deserve it, but have jalan masuk.", "Couldn't word it better myself. Unfortunate that this is the truth for this country we're living in."], ["Presiden Anak Sains Mara (Ansara) Malaysia, Mohd Fadzil Yusof berkata, institusi pendidikan itu dilihat sebagai tempat sesuai bagi anak mereka bergaul dengan pelajar lain daripada pelbagai latar belakang.\n\u201cDi sekolah swasta, kos pembelajaran sampai RM3,000 sebulan.\n\"Kalau mereka (ibu bapa T20) mampu untuk hantar anak ke sekolah swasta, kenapa mahu berebut masukan ke MRSM?\n\u201cSaya tertanya-tanya kenapa golongan (T20) itu nak hantar anak-anak ke MRSM, dan jawapan yang diterima mengejutkan saya iaitu nak ajar anak untuk hidup susah.\n\u201cMRSM kononnya menjadi tempat terbaik untuk anak mereka berkawan dengan golongan B40,\u201d katanya dalam Wacana Sinar edisi 426 bertajuk \u2018MRSM untuk B40 sahaja?\u2019 pada Selasa.\nReminder that it's not the guy in the thumbnail that made the comment, he is just stating what he heard from T20 parent that he asked, because he himself also baffled by it"], ["if want to belajar erti kesusahan please join the armed forces\nsekian terima kasih"], ["Like my colleague say \"....kebodohan bertingkat-tingkat tinggi\"", "My new fav is a comment I saw for Kepala Batas MP sepupu episode.\nKebodohan tak terbatas"], ["Golongan T20 isi minyak subsidi untuk kenali erti kesusahan."], ["aleuto"], ["Well... At least there's the suggestion for T20 to pay higher."], ["Hahahahahahaha. Masih mimpi nampaknya."], ["True story, I went through hell in the worse MRSM in the country. I usually refer to it as prison with all the juvenile kids in there.\nThe experience and results I got from that, makes it all worth it, but it comes with sacrifices. Now I don't have anyone to call my 'highschool friends' as I have cut them off for good."], ["Fakoff"], ["MRSM is one of best education money cant buy. How about making a paid intake, and using that money to take more underprivileged candidate. Can you fault parent with means to provide the best to their children?"], ["Oh they just send them oversea easy"], ["If he had said, all politician need to send kids to MRSM. The comments would look a lot different."], ["Like everything else T20s want \"safety nets\" amongst the common folks."], ["Sebagai abg kpd adik yg sendri masuk mrsm just to be liwat by t20 bully, no TQ la Mohon pi jahanam ,"], ["Why you guys hate rich kids so much? At the end of the day, diorang jugak yang korang berebut nak berkahwin sampai santau-menyantau", "Tu amalan keluarga ko kowt. Org lain takde pun buat. 2024 wei, dah 2024", "Orang Melayu ni nama je islam, tapi amalan animisme ni masih lagi kuat."], ["B40 beli iPhone untuk belajar erti hidup mewah"], ["Meh belajar arti kesusahan. Rampas semua duit dgn kekayaan macam China's cultural revolution baru tau.", "Rampas semua duit dgn kekayaan macam China's cultural revolution baru tau.\nNanti T20 nangis :26557:"], ["I don't go to MRSM so I can't tell, but do T20 kids kena ragging there?", "They are the prime target for ragging and looting. I was in MRSM and we even have a term called going shopping meaning going to those rich kids locker and loot whatever u want from them.", "So this is what they meant by \"kesusahan\" stated in the headline. \ud83d\ude05\ud83d\ude02", "Lol, all that did is just fan the hate for b40, and thicken their T20 bubble", "Yeah maybe so lol, i mean if u know that school is filled with B40 kids why on earth u flaunt your branded shoes, watches etc and worse keep showing off all those stuff to those poor B40 kids.\nKids being kids when u cant afford to buy it they just go shopping at the rich kids locker lol.\nIts getting worse as those T20 kids tend to have their own T20 group and all of them tend to be competing who got more expensive branded things among them and look down on B40 kids.\nThings got so bad to the extent that the principal keep making announcements to those rich kids to stop bringing expensive stuff to school but they never seems to listen and when it got stolen they all cry and attack the school administration for failing to protect those kids precious stuff.\nHowever, what funny thing is those super rich T1 does exist among us and never targeted because all of them remain discreet and act like B40 and never show off unlike those try hard T20.\nWe only know of their T1 status when one their parent goes on live TV and they actually Tan sri etc. and the rest when school is over when we get invited to their raya open house and they actually live in a mansion with supercars.", "tak. can't tell. all wear same uniform use the same items. but if you have luxury items will get stolen, phones Gameboys etc. went to one from in 2000s. but it was new, so probably no bad culture yet.", "Depends, if their parents/relatives are some higher-up in the government, no one's gonna touch them.", "Not really, kids are stupid and they will do it regardless who's behind them as long as they can justify it for whatever stupid reasons that they can think of but this was back in the 2000s cos a lot of so called VVIP son was bullied too and a lot of VVIP son are the bullies too so yeah its a unique eco-system of ragging culture lol. Plus ragging VVIP son tend to have that premium tag so yeah they are the premium target."], ["Rich people must send their children to Tahfiz school better, if really want to experience kesusahan. The pondok school must be as remote as possible."], ["Isn\u2019t that what Ramadhan is about tho?\nFasting to feel what it\u2019s like to be others who don\u2019t have food. Same logic tbh"], ["In a way the guy just admitted that the T20 children are a spoilt bunch who needs their asses whipped into shape. :26554:\nThat said, learning to wake up on time, do laundry, attend classes, do homework etc are something that does not require tax-sponsored funds to learn, all achievable via the national school system as a normal citizen right at home.\nPeople like this guy knows it's an exclusive, controlled educational environment that will separate them from the unwashed masses, safe from the insidious influence of egalitarianism from the national schools that can threaten the status quo."], ["Let em work in retail."], ["Kalau melayu islam hantar pergi tahfiz la..\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23.. Baru kau taw langit tu tinggi ke rendah, bawak tabung kutip duit..."], ["I almost had the urge to unsubscribe from this sub, for really man\u2026. These so called suggestions are just downright embarrassing."], ["Off-Topic:\nI already got a chance to feel extremely poor & mildly rich. So if you try throw me beside highway without any phone, money and food, i can survive.\nI also can start everything from zero. Means I don\u2019t need help from friends nor family in a new state & new people."], ["", "Please tell me you forgot the /s .", "<image>"], ["The most logical explanation would be T20 send their kids to MRSM because they are also ANSARA. They know MRSM is a good product at low price tag.", "that's it. private school too expensive. themselves don't want to teach their kids how to study etc."], ["dafaq?"], ["i call bull. I know a guy who came out of MRSM just a couple of years before. Pampered whelp"], ["nope"], ["dont trust politicians, easy peazy, none of them will care about you, all of them only care about their family and cronies"], ["Want to feel poverty send them all the way to the interior schools, please. And dont even visit them until long breaks.\nMRSM boast a lot of lavish facility, even better than the KPM's SBP itself (Sekolah Sains kind). Added with lots of international programme they have I dont see they are learning poverty there lol. In fact B40s in MRSM doesnt even get to experience all of them because their fees are not something they can afford. Experience poverty my ass."], ["Lmao no. Those kids eat cafetaria food everyday and some don't even use the provided laundry services. What kesusahan ?"], ["what kesusahan? kesusahan of being bullied is it?"], ["alasan bangang, kencing hancing"], ["hahahahahaha pecah perut aku gelak kat opis"], ["\"Every single current and past politician should have all their and family assets seized and have < rm2000 monthly salary with no chance of growth due to entitlement and not working hard enough and have to rent in KL for 20 years challenge in order to not be pieces of shit\""], ["If want susah, don't send your children to primary and secondary school."], ["Out of topic a bit. Just my opinion , They should change t20 m40 b40 income range. These so called t20 in these story, is mayb actually those t5 earner. Me myself earn about 12-18k based on ot whatsoever, but im not considered myself t20 as me myself struggling to cope komitmen with these days good price etc. T20 should be those 30k and above earner la. When they said t20 child bla3. Oi aku hantar anak aku pergi tadika pasti je. Sekian bebelan"]]}
+{"title": "Malay voters will be more wary of DAP after Ngeh Koo Ham\u2019s Shariah committee blunder, analysts suggest", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x5i1b/malay_voters_will_be_more_wary_of_dap_after_ngeh/", "num_comment": 101, "flairlabel": ["Politics"], "header": "Kerana mulut badan binasa\nKUALA LUMPUR, Jan 3 \u2014 Malay voters who did not vote for Pakatan Harapan (PH) will be more wary of the coalition and its component DAP after the recent controversy over Beruas MP Datuk Ngeh Koo Ham\u2019s statement regarding the Shariah law special committee, analysts have warned.\nADVERTISEMENT Although Ngeh had apologised and retracted his statement, those polled suggested that the damage was already done as it would further undermine what little support DAP is getting from Malay voters and this incident would further serve as \u201cammunition\u201d for PAS and Perikatan Nasional (PN) to paint PH and DAP as \u201canti-Islam\u201d.\n\u201cTo be honest Malay views on the DAP were never great in the first place.\u201d\n\u201cNow they have \u2018proof\u2019 that the DAP is out to abolish Malay and Muslim rights,\u201d said International Islamic University Malaysia\u2019s political science lecturer Syaza Shukri", "comments": [["Ph and bn tries to do damage control\nMeanwhile the few dap member: Imma end our whole career", ""], ["\u201cIslamic council should have non Muslim stakeholders to ensure no one is sidelined\u201d\n\u201cFucking kafir is trying to meddle with Islam!\u201d", "Hindu/Buddhist temples and monasteries should have Muslim stakeholders to ensure no one is sidelined.\nDucking PAS is trying to force Islam on us.\nFixed it for you.", "Does the Hindu/Buddhist temples have enormous power and government sanctions that whenever they moves , the earth(policy) shakes?\nDoes their activities include amending laws and regulations that claim won\u2019t affect the non believers?\nDo local councils have regulations that the nons must consult before big events are allowed to happen?\nDoes the nons have power over jurisdiction that disallows others to do something and enforceable by law?", "Actually, they already have Muslim stakeholders in the form of council authorities that can decide whether they are operating legally or not.", "Yea that\u2019s why ngeh request is ridiculous."], ["Malays who didnt vote for Pakatan will never vote for them, this article is designed to silence non muslims for raising any issues for fear of repercussions.\nBiggest issue is now Anwar is solidly losing the indian voters by his own arrogance.", "Fyi the person mentioned in this is affiliated with pkr party", "Thanks captain!", "Also head of psci dept, theres been talking that pkr and pn going to join together and root dap out of madani govt.", "Any monkey can talk, doesnt mean it makes sense.", "Got numbers for that kah? DAP chairs banyak.", "PKR:31\nPN: 69\nBN:30\nGPS:23\nGRS:6\nTOTAL: 159\nNumber required is 112.", "To balance out, more mp seats to borneo. However because of rivalry with dap, borneo switch alliance to bn + pn for next ge.\nProbably nightmare scenario which will trigger more chinese + Indians to migrate. So congrats malay won. Sekian\u2026", "From what I gather from the grassroots, the 40 above demographics are reminiscent of the old MCA MIC days. Next election would be interesting.", "My circle is kepong/ cheras. Most are pro dap but when got into trouble look for mca \ud83d\ude02\nActually for them is either a dap voter or never vote in their life before lol", "Lol who indian gonna vote ??? PNPAS ??? Also their population not significant enough to make a difference in term of voting power anyway unlike Chinese and Malays / Bumi", "Youre forgetting the slim margins in which PH won the last election that they needed to negotiate with BN etc to make up the numbers. Any subgroup Anwar discriminates or isolates against will come back to bite him in the end.\nOf course now the peninsular politicians dont dare talk shit about east malaysia like they used to.", "dont vote...fuck the government...both side is shit so why waste time voting", "That's how you get Trump as president lol.", "ehhh its like choosing between cow shit n dog shit...both shit...whoever wins we lose so why waste the time n energy n petrol just to vote for shit", "Cowshit is slightly more valuable cause can use as fertiliser, but dog shit too acidic to use as fertiliser and harbours a lot of parasites.\nCome vote for cowshit", "Despite your username, that is a more creative way to get your point across.", "Damage mitigation and to avoid total monopoly of a single political ideology.", "When you country goes bankrup cuz you didn't vote then better stop complaint eh", "heh we who didn\u2019t vote have every right to complain\u2026", "Accordingly you don't, because you don't give a sh*t about malaysia.", "nah we do\u2026it\u2019s the ppl that vote don\u2019t have the right to complain, u voted u put these ppl in office u\u2019re responsible for the mess they\u2019ve created, u dont have the right to complain", "You don't give a damn to malaysia simple as that, and this is why malaysia will always be like this because most ppl thinks like you do.\nIf a country can he fixed by 5 or 3 years it be a miracle, you just a reflection of this country.\nPeople keep screaming for reform but absolutely lacking of conviction.", "oh i never scream for reform because i know it will nvr happen\u2026if voting changes anything it would be made illegal", "Change doesn't have to be good or bad political line is all shade of grey\nPH and BN team up is already a \"change\" despite you may or may not agree. Which temporary ended the biggest rivalry after many decades.\nSabah and Sarawak now has more right in politics and policy power than ever before.\nPas being a huge opposition is their biggest opportunity also the biggest change in malaysia history too.\nReform can be called a hoax or real depends what aspects you looking to.\nMeanwhile you aren't just ignore and also denied the CHANGE that literally happening now.", "Then vote for someone else. Not voting doesnt send a message youre unsatisfied, its just passive agressive nonsense. If you disagree with PAS policies vote anyone but PAS. If you think Anwar is being a buttplug vote anyone but PH.\nThere is still MUDA, PSM, independent etc to vote for. Even if MUDA or PSM dont win, them gaining voters will send a message the people dont want xyz parties.", "try la the whole country don\u2019t vote\u2026literally 0 voter turnout\u2026i would like to see the chaos in the government", "Why would malays not vote? They are happy being ruled by PAS. In fact PAS has been steadily winning more seats every year.", "welp we\u2019re not united as a people", "This is just keyboard warrior shit. Don't complain if the winner is an even worse scumbag.", "we don\u2019t vote we have the right to complain\u2026it\u2019s the one that vote don\u2019t have the right to complain", "It's the other way around.", "nope it\u2019s not\u2026what is this double standard when it comes to voting\u2026u made ur bed now sleep in it", "At least I have the right to complain. You didn't do shit. I paid for a service I have the right to complain.\nFunny how you made up your own saying. \"You didn't vote so you don't have the right to complain\" is to shame people like you.", "maybe u didnt read it properly...u voted them in u're responsible for the mess they've made, YOU dont have the right to complain...maybe ur mindset in life is oh i've chosen to take up smoking now my lungs are fuck i should complain, no u dont"], ["I agree.\n1st lim kit siang comments on non malay PM. And now this. In a very short time frame.\nI can imagine behind closed doors loke scolding ngeh. \"Your brain missing ah? We just settled damage control on kit siang statement, now you do this???!!\".", "Wtf is so controversial about stating the fact that the pm can be non-malay? Or that non-Malays should be included and represented in policy matters that very much affects them indirectly, however much racists try to downplay and deny that? Why are malays constantly grasping and reaching at straws to victimize their fragile selves?", "Politics is not about fact/logic, but sentiments, until all the voters grow up.", "Politics is about appeasing the public, not being correct.", "You new in politics? Politics is not about facts, its a matter of people can accept or not what you say. Just like in here, I have stated facts that we have pati problem. That is a fact. But people cant accept it and even called xenophobic.", "Why does Loke is the face of Dap right now even tho he only a Sec Gen?? Who the current Dap president???", "Secretary General is the highest position in DAP la.", "There's actually an interesting reason for that:\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Secretary_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1reY72ktEc&t=21m14s\nBasically, Lenin didn't really like Stalin and tried to marginalise him by giving him a less influential position within the Soviet Communist Party\u2014General Secretary. However, Stalin was crafty and found ways to consolidate power even with his unassuming position. The office of General Secretary thus came to be recognised as the de facto highest position in the party even though this was never made de jure (official).\nIt therefore became traditional for communist and socialist parties around the world to have General Secretary/Secretary General as party leader.", "Non-communist examples would include normal corporations where CEOs generally wield higher executive powers, and Singapore, where the Prime Minister has more power than the President", "I understand youre trying to make a connection with DAP and communism but the head of United Nations is also secretary general.", "???\nI specifically said communist and socialist parties. DAP is a socialist party. That is not controversial.", "Secretary general is a common term for a leader of an organization, just like CEO, president, etc. The United Nations is neither communist nor socalist but their leader is a secretary general.\nNice try tho.", "Nice try what? DAP is socialist. That is a fact, not an insult. If you took it as one, that speaks more to your own views on socialism than anything I said. Here is DAP's Wikipedia page:\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Action_Party\nCtrl + F \"socialist\".", "Thats a pretty weak strawman fallacy you got going there.\nWhat youre trying to do : DAP leader and communist leader are both secretary generals.\nI gave you and example of the United Nations leader also being a secretary general.\nYour strawman argument : Oh youre offended that DAP is socialist. Here look at my evidence while pretending to not understand that a secretary general is a common position used by any organization or group.\nAgain, nice try. Still fail.", "I don't know why the UN leader has the Secretary General title, and I try to avoid commenting on things in which I am not very knowledgeable. If you do happen to know why, feel free to share\u2014I am always happy to learn something new.\nI was only explaining the historical reason communist and socialist parties have Secretary General as the highest-ranking position. I was/am not taking any political stand or condemning any ideologies. It is not my fault that you chose to read too much into my comment and see hidden messages where there were none.\nHave a good day, I shan't be entertaining you any longer.", "Ya meh???", "yes", "Yes. Baca penjelasan saya di sini.", "Secretary general is de facto leader of DAP", "Dont know, but its normal practice for that party sec gen to have more influence. Just like in the past when LGE held that position."], ["Seem like anuar will only got 1 peggal."], ["\u201dTo be honest Malay views on DAP were never great in the first place.\u201d\nso then no need to worry lah kan. Malay gonna Malay YOLO", "Well if its already 0 or 1 you want it to be -2 or -5???", "Either you gonna vote or not. If you're not gonna vote, you don't matter. You can't negative vote"], ["We think the rural Malays are ill informed about DAP therefore the hate towards the party. Fine. But coming from a university lecturer? What hope is there for DAP? Seriously making a mountain out of a mole hill.", "Because Mahathir and his UMNO guys did a swell job tarnishing others.", "i guess that why DAP wants to attract more members of other races to make the party more multiracial.\nBut they're also shooting themselves in the foot again and again", "DAP digs its own grave by doing things like this. There no ill information here."], ["In Malaysia, asking for equal right is wrong as minority.", "With regards to this incident; Ngeh asks for non muslim to intervene into shariah laws. I don\u2019t think other religions want outsider to tell them what you can/ cannot do especially there is constitution rights that protects everyone.", "Definitely equal rights when a meat eater wants to sit at a committee for vegans.", "Yeah when the vegans have very much been used to forcefully and illegally convert offspring of meat eaters into one of them, I'm sure meat eaters should just stfu and accept it right.", "Sure that is the one point as a meat eater i can agree on. When the bitter ex uses religion. But did DAP specify this issue or decides to just swoop in on everything. Y\u2019all love DAP so much you fail to see their idiocy sometimes.", "<image>\nOh wow lookie here, apparently minorities arent allowed equal rights already."], ["Istana negeri boleh consider utk tarik balik title \u201cdato\u2019\u201d tu\u2026"], ["PAS voters - goes to Klang Valley to enjoy its benefits then goes back to Green Alliance states to vote PAS. What will they do when Klang Valley turns into a shithole like the Green Alliance States? Probably never thought that far though. \ud83d\ude02"], ["The DAP \"grassroot\" has a handful of racist and islamphobic idiots. The more progressive intellectual younger leaders are sidelined in their very own DAP party elections.", "The PAS grassroot are majority racist and kafirphobia. Will definitely pick DAP anyday of the week", "I agree. We can pressure DAP to improve through constructive criticism via your elected MP /Adun (if they are from DAP). Should never be a blind supporter to any party or else, they will end up like UMNO, MCA, MIC, Gerakan.", "Which groups do these grassroots fall into in Malaysians society? Penang and peraks??\nDoes urban supporters falls into those racist too?", "Penang, Perak are the most obvious. So far Penang and Selangor are showing progress by fielding younger progressive candidates, but Perak is still pretty much under that two clowns, which is really unhealthy. The Lim, Kok and their supporters?\nThere is a reason why Ong Kian Ming took a backseat from GE15 despite being a more performing MP in his term.", "Interesting, id like to engage with dap grassroots within my area in Georgetown. Because as much as my ideals aligned with the party values the people behind and inside came with different agenda and sentiments.\nAs Malay myself, id like to really know if dap is what they claim to be tho if i can go directly to their hq and ask em to pitch for me lel. Can only go to bandaraya and ask em to solve town issues mah. If theres townhall events, id sure to go", "It is always good to have a conversation with them. We as Malaysian claim to be living in a multicultural society, but how integral are we as a multicultural and multiracial community? How many of us can actually understand the vows and challenges of other races.\nWe all got suckered into a position where we are all yelling for help and eager for immediate reform at the same time. We are all drowning as a nation, and yet everyone is fighting each other to stay afloat.\nThe kind of statement made by Ngeh clearly shows he is ignorant of Muslim community. The statement made by LKS isn't wrong, but it is a 1 way communication, not a conversation to promote understanding between races. Boomer politicians regardless party like them love to have 1 way communication, because they don't have to debate with facts and from other view points.", "Also the CCP shills are of great concern. Some even refuse to learn Bahasa Melayu. And this is coming from an Aussie who lived in KL for 15 years. I can speak more Malay than some of the locals.", "Yeap. That is very disheartening. The wumaos (\u4e94\u6bdb) I came across are ignorant toxic bunch. They have some sort of inferiority complex that they put themselves higher than other races despite they know little to nothing bout other cultures nor they care.\nThey are no different that those blind supporters of propagandists.", "Internet wumaos take on their singular personalities out of the whole bunch , they often base their whole personality on that one character. So take what they say with a big pinch of salt", "younger leaders are sidelined in their very own DAP party elections\ngenuine question: who?", "Ong Kian Ming, Zairil, Tony Pua, Kasthuri Patto to name a few.", "...young?", "Didn't I mention younger leaders, I did not say young, did i? Looking at the average age of our ministers, Tony is the oldest in the list, but definitely younger than most in the cabinet. Even Hannah Yeoh is 44."], ["Malay voters? Undi la PAS... Kasi tutup itu Pavilion sebab pancut bunga api awal sebelum countdown habis... Owai"], ["This is what I love about people, just like being on twitch they will eventually show off their real colours :29091:\nMake comments, get flak, double down, Sultan murka, apologise, life goes on :26554:", "Didnt know you can get noticed by the Sultan on Twitch", "Which category he browse often?"], ["At this point, the government should go full in on reform lol. The damage has already been done \ud83d\ude02"]]}
+{"title": "New digital road tax, driving licence formats, online renewal fr Feb - no more physical sticker, card fr Feb - paultan.org", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x44g1/new_digital_road_tax_driving_licence_formats/", "num_comment": 19, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Am I the only one who thinks removing the physical roadtax is a bad idea?\nLet's say you're involved in a car accident, there is no way for you to verify the car plate is real, or to check if the car has a valid insurance.\nIf a police wants to issue a saman to a car that is illegally parked at the roadside, how does he verify the car matches the plate number?", "Police already has access to the govt database of registered vehicles, so the system can tell what car model, colour and year it is if they key in the number plate\nIf they key in a plate and the car description doesn't match what they are seeing in real life then they know the car isn't legit\nIf you observe police/jpj/Bandaraya when they do their rounds for saman, they will be holding a device, probably fiddling with it infront of cars. That's the device with the database", "Imagine in future they implement Auto deduction for any Saman, guess nobody will dare double park, illegal park and drive recklessly :26561:", "Will love to see that happen. Or add the outstanding payment to the total for insurance renewal or something", "Should be pretty interesting, I am pretty sure all will protest for more parking and those own parking space sure increase parking price :26561:", "The problem is, your car is not unique, if you own a blue Myvi, there are thousands of the same blue Myvi on the road. How does the police know your blue Myvi matches your car plate?\nIf you have a roadtax on your windscreen, the police can double verify.", "I dont understand your point. Whatever information that the physical road tax shows, the database has it as well because its directly from JPJ.\nPhysical road tax shows:\n1) number plate 2) road tax expiry 3) car details (model, engine cc, colour etc.) 4) even chassis number (I think)\nAll this information is already in the device that authorities use", "If a car is illegally parked at the roadside, and both of its car plates are missing a letter. So how does the police issue a saman? You can fake a car plate, but you can't fake a roadtax.\nThis won't be an issue if there is a physical roadtax on the windscreen for the police and cross check.\nNot to mention during roadblock, the police can easily see your roadtax on your windscreen. Now they have to key in your plate number, which takes more time.", "Hmm good point, seems like a loophole that needs fixing. Other option would be to tell the driver to get out at roadblocks so they can open the car up and get the chassis number, but that's also way too much work", "A blue Myvi is still a better information that some sort of a car.\nActually car colour is no longer mandatory. You can change your car colour everyday and have no trouble with law.\nIn fact the better information is the chassis number, or VIN. It's usually available in various places of a car. An engine block also has its own number. Police can check these numbers.", "Yes. Once I was at a roadblock during a night. The officer that come to me call me by my brother's name. I was riding my brother's motor, thats explains it.", "The police already got device to check the plate and car that wear those plate. It just that some are not bother to do their job properly and cause trouble to the driver.", "I agree with you. This digital roadtax thing is only practical if the plate is issued by the government. Cant be made at any accessories shop."], ["looks like we are back at paper driving license. just like before."], ["hope digital ic too."], ["I think they should scrap entire road tax system\nbuild-in into car selling price & fuel price.", "Our road tax system tied to the insurance. If no more road tax, people wont renew insurance"], ["Anyone know if its only in Malaysia that our identity card/driving license do not show our DOB, instead having to rely on looking at our NRIC number.\nHad so much problem proving our ages when in oversea when renting cars if you happen to not bring your passport out.", "SG too, in fact your NRIC number is also the license number (which is itself different from the serial number)"]]}
+{"title": "How A Crowdfunded Malaysian Film On Racial Tensions Became A Runaway Hit \u2013 Analysis", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18x3wz7/how_a_crowdfunded_malaysian_film_on_racial/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": ["Entertainment"], "header": "", "comments": [["Crowfunded? How? I like to make a movie about hang tuah. Assassin's creed and the raid style", "They did it on Kickstarter.\nBut about half came from a businessman at the very last minute.", "Thanks", "Can you make a movie for RM410,000. Because that's how they did it."], ["I watched last weekend. I\u2019m happy that it\u2019s good. Pretty on par with international indie in terms of storytelling and filmmaking."]]}
+{"title": "Wedding Banquet w Malay Friend", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xb0j0/wedding_banquet_w_malay_friend/", "num_comment": 33, "flairlabel": ["Food"], "header": "I'm getting married this year and planning on having a wedding banquet.\nHas anyone hosted or attended any Chinese wedding banquet that also caters to Malays and Indian? As I wouldn't want my friends from other races to get missed out.\nThe options that I am thinking is either: 1) Banquet at Chinese restaurant, additionally cater food and utensils/cutlery from Muslim / Malay Restaurant. They are seated together with our mutual friends. ( or separate table )\n2) Don't invite them at all.\nI'm hoping to not choose Option 2 and I cannot not host at Chinese restaurant as my other half's family has a more traditional background. In the meantime, I'll try to look for halal restaurant that also serves Chinese cuisine.\nAnd suggestions would be great appreciated :)", "comments": [["option 1 exists, it's common for restaurants to provide a table serving no-pork no-lark."], ["You can throw it at a hotel and have them serve Chinese cuisine but halal. Probably more expensive though.", "Yes just do the whole thing in a hotel and fret not about the extra costs. if things work out well you only have to do this once lol.\nedit: ppl tend to be a bit more generous in the ang pows too of it\u2019s a reputable hotel.", "I know people who did this. If they want to invite their Muslim friends or colleagues they just hold the ceremony at a hotel."], ["my cousin who predominantly hang out with malays catered halal food for his wedding banquet in a chinese restaurant whereas one of my colleague had one in a chinese restaurant that has a separate kitchen for pork free/halal (cant remember which) food so the options are there but do make sure your muslim mates are comfortable with the options"], ["Wow, a question that I am uniquely able to answer.\nContext: My wife and I are both Chinese, but we have a lot of Malay friends and colleagues, and we really wanted to include them in our wedding.\nSo we had 2 weddings meals:\nBig kenduri-style wedding with Halal food for all friends and family (including parent's friends)\nIntimate 10-table family-only dinner the night of the Chinese Wedding ceremony\nThe kenduri style wedding, we rented a very nice air conditioned function hall called Rumah Melaka that looks like a kampung house but is fully equipped as a function hall. We and a bunch of very close friends got together and hand made the decorations ourselves. My wife baked up a storm for the desert table, I made our own wedding slideshow. We drove all the way to Tangkak to hire this kenduri caterer called Pok De cause our friend recommended them as amazing (and they were). We had nasi briyani, ayam masak merah, mutton (my fav), sayur acar, and a bunch of other dishes and also vegetarian options. Separately, we hired a cendol stall and a satay stall, and people could order on demand. We also got a freezer full of Magnum ice cream to top it off. Dress code was traditional clothing, all the women in our families wore Kebaya, there was a sea of baju Melayu, cheong sam, sari etc. Between 300 - 500 people attended (I lost count cos everyone brought their extended families lol, really kenduri style). It was really amazing to see, and now 8 years later my friends still bring it up as the best wedding they ever attended.\nThe Chinese wedding dinner was held a month later, family and close friends only, very intimate in a very nice restaurant. This was mostly done to appease the traditionalists in both families, but honestly since we paid for everything ourselves, my wife and I had final say in whatever we wanted to do.\nAs for costs, the Kenduri wedding cost about 50k all included, the Chinese restaurant dinner cost about 15k. This is in 2016 bear in mind, but everything fell neatly under our budget.", "Unfortunately, our budget isn't as much but thanks for sharing your story", "No problem, hope it all works out for you!", "Love this!\nWish more Malaysians are as inclusive as you. One of the best part about being Malaysians are the friends you have coming from different backgrounds \u2764\ufe0f"], ["From experience, the easiest way is to set a \u201chalal zone\u201d at the back or corner of the venue where halal caterers set up a buffet style with traditional Malay kenduri food.\nThe caterers provide cutlery, food, service to these guests.\nYou provide chair to sit, air con, table.\nYou can go all out and invite 30-100 of your closest Malay friends."], ["Homst is a halal restaurant that serves chinese cuisine, may wanna look it up."], ["My non Muslim colleagues usually have a separate table and halal caterer for the Muslims at their weddings. So far hasn't been any issues. Those who are more fussy about it just won't attend."], ["go with hotel option.\nalso depends on where gonna have the reception. If its small town then forget about having halal food."], ["Heyya, went to a Chindian wedding last month with plenty of Malays - was at Ruyi & Lyn @ Bangsar South Center. The menu was more to Chinese-style cuisine but caters to all attendees just fine. The food was good so check them out!"], ["I have recently gone through this so I can give some feedback. I did my wedding banquet at a standard Chinese restaurant which also offers vegetarian package and halal packages. So there is really not much issue there as long as you have a fixed 1 or 2 tables to entertain your Muslim friends. The only concern is where to place them among the seating arrangement and I find that it's best to place the Halal table at sides or corner closer to entrance/exit, allowing the Halal food caterer to serve the dishes.\nWith regards to Indians the diet is quite similar to Chinese usually with no beef involved, so it is quite easy to resolve. A couple of my Indian friends practice vegetarian diets so that's another issue to resolve entirely."], ["Abah Seafood n Grill and Unique Seafood in Seksyen 13 has space for wedding dinners. Karaoke system provided in the latter.\nYou don't have a set budget in mind for food? Regarding alcohol, most Malays shouldn't mind as long as you don't serve it to them."], ["My cousin and wife are malay since both come from malay-chinese parents. They just had their wedding reception 2 months ago at Sofitel. If not mistaken its halal. Cause 30% of guest were muslims. So im sure they chose a halal banquet kitchen. It says on their website halal too.", "Oh u want restaurants. Unique seafood pj? If youre in the area lah"], ["I think hotel and halal-chinese-restaurant is your best choice la bro. Every non-malay wedding i attended is either hotel or restaurant."], ["Just order KFC and tell restaurant to keep an empty table for them. Let them sit at the table with KFC. Easy.", "Our colleague did this. But not KFC lah \ud83d\ude2d, she catered a malay caterer; satay, nasi, lontong with cutlery only for that table."], ["Don\u2019t invite them unless they are the liberal open minded Malays.", "If they are closed minded they wouldnt be friends with OP... Plus you dont need to be Liberal to respect each other", "Yea same time you don\u2019t need to bend over backwards and get everything halal certified with JAKIM chop , just to cater for them either. It\u2019s OP wedding. If you can\u2019t adjust one meal just for your friends wedding , they can fck off.", "Who hurt youuuuuu??", "ignore him his out of touch"], ["Hold it in a hotel. Choose your guest and rsvp. Sure profit"], ["Hotel banquets are usually halal Chinese"], ["Just attended one a month or so ago. My friend held it at a chinese banquet hall but she had a table or two set aside for muslim guests. Iirc she ordered food from a halal caterer but I don't think she ordered as much to match up to the number of courses."], ["some muslims are not confident with 'no pork no lard' tagline. if your friends dont mind, no problem.\nbetter good reputation hotel with halal jakim certification."], ["Hotel option. My Chinese friend had their wedding there with Chinese food (halal). Love it\nIf money is your issue, have a typical Chinese wedding and they have a separate makan with your Malay friends to introduce them to your wife. Most of them would understand."]]}
+{"title": "Aside from targeted subsidies, how does the rakyat benefit from PADU?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18xec4n/aside_from_targeted_subsidies_how_does_the_rakyat/", "num_comment": 31, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Main question above.\nSide question is what is stopping the individual from listing a lower income?", "comments": [["My impression is that the government is at the \u201cdata gathering\u201d stage right now, and aside from subsidies, they don\u2019t really have any idea how they\u2019ll use the data in PADU.\nOn the side question, PADU will probably link up with LHDN\u2019s darabase to verify your salaried income, but I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any way for them to verify your side income (e.g. income from rnt, dividends, etc)\nMy speculative shower thought that is that PADU\u2019s main purpose is to widen the tax base by expanding into the non recorded/cash economy. Its common knowledge that not everyone declares thier income to LHDN for one reason or another, esp those who transact in cash (e.g., the roadside nasi lemak seller, morning market trader). By making everyone declare thier income in PADU, the government would have greater visibility over this segment of society - hence increasing thier tax base.", "My speculative shower thought that is that PADU\u2019s main purpose is to widen the tax base\nNot really, but it can be used for that purpose.\nYou wanna really know how the government plans to widen the tax base? E-Invoice\nBy the end of this year, every seller on Lazada and Shopee sales invoice on will be reported to LHDN. You think you can run your side business and not pay tax? Haha. Think again.", "Can you quote source on this", "Source: Me. In the industry (not e-commerce) doing this project.\nMore details can be sourced here, but it doesn't go into detail yet.\nTo add on, if you rent your property out, in the future you are required to file an e-invoice also. Which means LHDN now has your rental income as well. They should also know your interest payments because this data is provided by banks (similar to how e-commerce platforms are providing info to LHDN). So LHDN will know if you are over-declaring on your rental interest tax deduction.\n<image>", "This is a pretty good answer. I read somewhere a while back that Malaysia ranks quite high on undeclared income and that\u2019s not only because of personal deception but because our a current system is inadequate to run the scope from new wave income streams or old school roadside stall businesses, it\u2019s only good at the middle of the spectrum ones.\nThat being said, for me personally, having lived in countries like Canada and UK, I feel the reason why many dodge or are unmotivated to declare is because our tax dollars isn\u2019t put to good use. Our secondary and tertiary education is nothing short of an embarrassment. Our public transport infrastructure is a joke. Socialism factor is very low.\nBut I think at the end of the day, PADU is the beginning of BIG DATA, albeit implemented poorly with targeted subsidies as the unappealing carrot.", "they don\u2019t really have any idea how they\u2019ll use the data * I guess they integrate data they previously had, and start using only now. Data is not meaningful unless relational conclusions can be linked. (Across ministries) * From some ministries; they have employment income, company declarations (dividend is exempted), quit rent and assessments of properties, asset usage license (e.g. driver), pretty much can track money flow indirectly without linking to banks, education certificates, etc * in accounting, there's 2 cash flow tracking method; cash directly, or categorical indirectly; maybe PADU will trace by indirect cash flow method with ownerships data) * what other statistics relations: let say, link education to industrial employment, link property ownership to employment, etc (scammer only use contacts link, the only part I think sensitive) * education-employment can stop wasteful PTPTN as per actual employments, property-employment can improve \"black economy\" chances or civilians' basic need securities \" or whatever links education-health, occupational-health, etc", "Great answer. One concern I have is LHDN comapare notes with PADU then open audit. If same no issue. If under declaration in padu then perjury. Can't see a law on it but it's possible based on US laws. Best not to disclose anything yet since no law requires us to disclose.", "Looks like that\u2019s the case."], ["Reminds me of this\n<image>", "\ud83d\ude02"], ["It's likely to reduce the smuggling of subsidized goods, yes, inside jobs."], ["Free dissemination of personal info through crappy data security.", "Scammers already have my phone number and email. What else do they want? \ud83d\ude2d", "Your undisclosed income sources :26554: Oh wait... did I just mention gomen", "the only they cannot get is bank . bafia . Remember his big 5 years not become politician"], ["is it against the law not to participate?", "No. I read somewhere it's not compulsory but u will be excluded from the targeted subsidies, if any.", "Good to know. I guess it's now about considering risk of releasing personal data to an entity that is not known for having a robust IT security versus receiving subsidies. Need to valuate that somehow", "Found reply from Rafizi", "this is very enlightening. thanks, compatriot!", "So, no reason for T20 to register...", "They already have most of everyone's data from what Rafizi said. PADU is giving a platform for everyone to disclose and amend information that's not correct."], ["In a way its encouraging rakyat to earn lower so can get subsidy. The harder you work, the smarter you work, the more you earn then take away subsidy after they tax higher bracket. Listing lower income is perjury. Best is not to disclose anything until we get more information on the benefits.", "Yeap i signed up but when I saw the amount of things you had to disclose to the government. I was like, for a couple hundred a year? You gotta sell more than that bruh.", "is a game for him , piji want to promote big data mining not helping people. This is not the way", "Yea just wait. I'll just disclose my dad data first. He retired no income got ntg. If I disclosed mine and ended up not getting any subsidy then I just sold myself to rafizi for ntg. I can use my dad IC to get the subsidy later", "From what I understand so far, the last date to update is around March while the first real subsidies (fuel) that will be derived from this system is planned for around July, so there might not be a chance to update when the subsidies mechanisms change unless govt decides to extend the deadline", "I don't think that approach works. There are always ppl joining the workforce and ppl earning and lifestyle changes. They need to regularly update either get the ppl to update or they get the data elsewhere. Otherwise if an ineligible rich guy who suddenly go bankrupt in Jun, he should still be able to update and get his subsidy in July", "I guess they will decide on the fly, since rafizi himself admitted they are rushing this out ASAP cause of subsidies", "Yeah. I have the same thought process. I\u2019ll wait"], ["Well it is fine....although, if they could do this in house in just 7 months, perhaps they could set a goal where the other government services (especially those that are outsourced like MySejahtera, Kastam etc...) would be fully integrated into a single system by the time the next Sabah election (I think this could be a turning point in a change of federal goverment) been called"]]}