Despite this, several European authors of the 15th and 16th century who visited only Lower Egypt and published their travel accounts, such as Joos van Ghistele or André Thévet, put Thebes in or close to Memphis.
Zemljevidi Egipta, ki so temeljili na delu Claudius Ptolemejeja iz 2. stoletja "Geographia", so krožili v Evropi od poznega 14. stoletja dalje, vsi pa prikazujejo lokacijo Teb (Diospolis).