Poe: So walang nakaka-alam kung may affidavit talaga si Mayor Espinosa? Lacson: Senator Grace, si Chief Inspector Espenido, siya ang Chief of Police ng Albuera, siya yung naghandle kay Mayor Espinosa noong siya'y tinurn over ni Chief PNP. I think we should hear from him but before that I want to acknowledge the presence of the co-chair, the chairman of the justice and human rights commission Senator Gordon. Welcome to the hearing.
Poe: Wala ka ring kinalaman na direktang koneksyon nitong si Victor na nirereport ni Gen. Espina o hindi mo alam? Pasensya na baka hindi malinaw, wala kayong direktang kaugnayan kay Former Chief PNP Gen. Espina pero sigurado rin ba kayo na wala rin namang kinalaman si Gen. Espina sa mga pinaggagawa ni Victor Espina?