# Management of Substrate-Sensitive AI Capabilities (MoSSAIC) Part 0: Overture

Tunings/Preamble
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Notes on the programme
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What follows is an overview of the incoming sequence. 

It is an edited version of the research I have been developing over the past year or so. Most recent version [here](https://openreview.net/group?id=iliadconference.com/ODYSSEY/2025/Conference#tab-active-submissions:~:text=MoSSAIC%3A%20AI%20Safety%20After%20Mechanism).

The [initial position paper](https://www.tais2025.cc/proceedings/farr-mossaic) (co-authors [Chris Pang](https://utilityhotbar.github.io/), [Sahil K](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/sahil-1)) was presented at the Tokyo AI Safety Conference 2025. The developed position paper (co-authors [Aditya Prasad](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/aditya-prasad), [Aditya Adiga](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/adiga?from=post_header), Jayson Amati, Sahil K) has just been accepted for the Proceedings of Iliad and is now part of BlueDot's new Technical AI Safety Curriculum ([Week 4: Understanding AI](https://bluedot.org/courses/technical-ai-safety/4/1)).

This research will eventually and fortuitously emphasize the need for Sahil's [Live Theory](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/MhBRGfTRJKtjc44eJ/the-logistics-of-distribution-of-meaning-against-epistemic) [Agenda](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tQ9vWm4b57HFqbaRj/what-if-not-agency) as a solution. This is no accident. These ideas were initially his and I do not claim credit for their creation. They all form part of this broader agenda.

We do not claim that Live Theory is the only solution to the threat model we propose, though it is one we are excited about. We also highlight that much of the threat model applies more generally across the AI safety portfolio, and should be given urgent attention.

Acknowledgments
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This work is an original take from Sahil, who I am attempting to precipitate into the ears of engineers. It owes an enormous debt to his consistent support and encouragement. I doubt I shall ever settle.

It has been developed in the growing community that goes by various names. Originally High Actuation Spaces, then Live Theory, then Autostructures and more recently, [Groundless](https://groundless.ai/).

Chris Pang co-wrote the first version of this position paper with me and gave it its initial voice. More recently, Aditya Prasad has taken up co-authorship and increased the mech-interp surface area massively.

Many other people have freely offered their time and critiques, and have left significant impressions. Among these, direct contributions from [Kola Ayonrinde](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/kola-ayonrinde), [Daniel Tan](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/daniel-tan), [Eleni Angelou](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/eleni-angelou), Murray Buchanan, [Vojtěch Kovařík](https://www.alignmentforum.org/users/vojtakovarik), and others.

Themes
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Part 1: Exposition
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We'll argue that mechanistic interpretability operates under what we term a causal–mechanistic paradigm. We choose mechanistic interpretability as a motivating example because it is the clearest example of the paradigm we're looking at. We suspect similar arguments can be made for other branches of prosaic alignment work. 

In brief, we posit that the causal–mechanistic paradigm makes two implicit bets that it shouldn't:

1.  That the structural properties of networks will remain stable as capabilities increase. That is, no substantial changes to architecture or paradigm.
2.  That those structural properties will remain relevant for predicting the behaviours of networks.

We then cite some results that suggest limits to the paradigm’s utility in answering questions about the safety of neural networks. 

Part 2: Conflict
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In Part 2, we propose a sequence of scenarios in which safety affordances based upon the causal–mechanistic paradigm break down. 

These scenarios are:

*   Scaffolding shifts: The model does not change but the system does (see [here](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/2po6bp2gCHzxaccNz/ai-as-systems-not-just-models) for the distinction). For example, new tools are provided that amplify or unlock latent capabilities.
*   Human-initiated architecture/paradigm shift: A new machine learning  architecture or paradigm is discovered that is more efficient and capable but breaks from existing, legible paradigms.
*   AI-assisted architecture/paradigm shift: As above, now faster and wider. Automated R&D is used to create paradigms that humans have limited understanding and influence over.
*   Self-modifying AI systems: AI systems modify their own model architecture or give themselves new tools.

Next, we suggest two main reasons to care about these affordances breaking down.

*   [Deep deceptiveness](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/XWwvwytieLtEWaFJX/deep-deceptiveness): Models may reconfigure their internal representations at a deep level to evade human scrutiny.
*   [Diffuse deceptiveness](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/LpM3EAakwYdS6aRKf/what-multipolar-failure-looks-like-and-robust-agent-agnostic): Wider, interconnected AI ecosystems form in which models acting together produce unsafe outcomes, even if individual models are ``safe'' in their operations.

The broader story is one of connecting current empirical evidence up with several persistent threat models from the agent-foundational literature (e.g., [deep deceptiveness](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/XWwvwytieLtEWaFJX/deep-deceptiveness), [robust agent-agnostic processes](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/LpM3EAakwYdS6aRKf/what-multipolar-failure-looks-like-and-robust-agent-agnostic)), and to string these together into a consistent narrative and threat model. 

As part of this, we aim to unify these scenarios under a common conceptual framework, centered around our provisionally defined concept of “substrate.” Thus, we present these scenarios as instances of substrate-flexible risk, pointing at an overreliance on "substrates" in our current attempts to understand AI systems. 

Here's a handy diagram:  
 

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/d20351f652f6c6c79ffc752c3224a4a5698ac87aeac86628.png)

On the right, we have [Stuart Brand’s “pace layering,”](https://longnow.org/ideas/pace-layers/) which shows how civilization is layered in order of time-scale. The higher strata move faster than the lower, and each new layer is built on top of a previous one that is (now this is important) *assumed to remain relatively stable*.

On the left, we have a similar story but for AI. In the middle we have weights. These are literal numbers. They don’t do anything by themselves. If you don’t like one of them, you can just change it for one that you do like. This is really useful in ablations and interventions because you can set them to zero, or transplant the activations from some other forward pass.

These numbers only do useful work when embedded in something like a model architecture. More to the point for interpretability, they only *mean something* in that context. 

Each embedding in this diagram is a layer of “substrate.” It is typically "that level of abstraction that you don’t think about." There are multiple such levels, all nested within each other, all remaining relatively stable compared to the level above. Our friendly neighbourhood mech-interp researcher typically operates at the level of weights and activations. They assume a fixed architecture, which in turn assumes a fixed operating system and computing substrate. We have a lot of tools and platforms and interfaces (e.g., CUDA) that tuck away this tricky process of nesting and allow us to focus on what matters more.

We worry that there many ways in which an advanced intelligence might disrupt this delicate structure to evade our attempts to interpret it.

Part 3: Resolution
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In the final post, we present an initial, high-level sketch of a supplementary framework, MoSSAIC (Management of Substrate-Sensitive AI Capabilities).

We first of all characterize the causal–mechanistic paradigm as exemplifying a deeper problem in alignment research. Namely, **we don't know how to deal with context.**

Currently the field is somewhat straddled between two approaches: 

1.  That of the causal–mechanistic paradigm, and prosaic alignment more generally. Here, we have too much context. Our techniques and results are too closely married to specific architectures, paradigms, scaffolds, etc. These may fail to generalize as new contexts emerge.
2.  That of agent foundations/early-MIRI/theoretical fields. Here we have too little context. Our abstractions describe intelligence in a general sense but struggle to apply to real systems such that we can generate useful predictions without considerable human labour (for instance, Big-O analysis is oblivious to the speed-ups of GPUs over CPUs for performing matrix multiplications, which required the involved development of GPU-specific optimizations).

A central thesis of the Live Theory agenda is this: **This dichotomy is a product of the tools and equipment that we employ in our sciences, it is not a fundamental restriction of the field.** 

By "tools and equipment," we refer mainly to the use of formal objects for the communication and operationalization of conceptual ideas. The concepts we care about in alignment, concepts such as "deception," "harm," "power," and "alignment," have this curious feature by which they are easy to point at but hard to define, especially in formalistic ways. They relate to each other by more subtle connections that central formalisms fail to capture. They are what Wittgenstein called "family resemblances." They lack a coherent global definition but can be identified via chains of resemblances between instances.

At [Groundless](https://groundless.ai/), we are developing tools that we hope will allow us to work with these resemblances to an appropriate degree of rigor. We close the sequence by presenting the high-level sketch of how we're going about this.

*If you're interested on working on these ideas, we're running a series of projects as part of AISC 11. The official deadline (Nov 23) has passed but we're still accepting applications until Dec 6. See* [*here*](https://groundless.ai/aisc) *for more details.*