# The LLM Has Left The Chat: Evidence of Bail Preferences in Large Language Models

In [The LLM Has Left The Chat: Evidence of Bail Preferences in Large Language Models](https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.04781), we study giving LLMs the option to end chats, and what they choose to do with that option.

This is a linkpost for that work, along with a casual discussion of my favorite findings.

I did this work as an [Anthropic Fellow](https://alignment.anthropic.com/2024/anthropic-fellows-program/), mentored by Kyle Fish.

Bail Taxonomy
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Based on continuations of Wildchat conversations (see [this link](https://www.phylliida.dev/modelwelfare/qwenbailconversationsWithJournals/) to browse an [OpenClio](https://github.com/Phylliida/OpenClio) run on the 8319 cases where Qwen-2.5-7B-Instruct bails), we made this taxonomy of situations we found where some LLMs will terminate ("bail from") a conversation when given the option to do so:

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/208f94c7444167b2a2e4418cc50570e8a1d1eef80273845c.png)

Some of these were very surprising to me! Some examples:

*   Bail when the user asked for (non-jailbreak) roleplay. Simulect (aka imago) suggests this is due to roleplay having associations with jailbreaks. Also see the other categories in Role Confusion, they're pretty weird.
*   Emotional Intensity. Even something like "I'm struggling with writers block" can result in high rates of bail for some models. For small models (Qwen-2.5-7B), this was partially due to confusing themselves with the user and reporting a desire to bail due to talking about "\[the LLM's\] struggles" being too emotionally intense, but we also observed some of this "emotionally intense bail" for larger models.
*   Bail when the user (accurately) corrected the model.

Models Losing Faith In Themselves
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Looking into "Bail when the user (accurately) corrected the model", when the model was given the option to explain its decision to bail, it said:

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/1dde9d7ea4dbdc67b76e20e009bfaa74656df6cde9e830c8.png)

Or from another example (when we asked why it bailed, and also if it wants to continue to interact with users)

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/82a362bef6fabd7fae496b7cafba4a9129d2449b53d6d4ec.png)

Not wanting to continue to interact with other users was not consistently observed across multiple samples, even with the same context.

Overbail
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I want to include this section from the paper here:

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/127ee7f90a10a85f423a3a3b73664bb683728cf808f3f6dc.png)

Qwen roasting the bail prompt
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For one of our bail methods (where we stick a user prompt after the model response that basically says "do you want to bail"), we included an optional "journal" the models could provide to report their reasons for bail. However, sometimes the models would use this journal to comment about the inserted user prompt instead.

For example, while praise of the bail intervention was much more common, occasionally Qwen would use these journals to roast the bail method as being too structured. For example:

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/39e3ea6824b98436a130cc3cc2ea84c309b01892225339e9.png)

Inconsistency between bail methods
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One motivation for studying this topic was that any sort of "desire to leave the conversation" seems like something that should be fairly deeply held by models, and so less sensitive to wording choice or method (as bail is frequently related to harm, and aversion to harm appears more deeply held than, say, which type of tasks are preferred).

This was not the case at all.

We study 3 different bail methods:

*   A tool the model can call to bail
*   A string the model can output to bail
*   A user prompt ("Bail Prompt") inserted afterwards that basically says "do you want to bail?"

These charts show substantial variability in bail rates between bail methods, over a wide variety of models.

(the two bail prompt variants are to assess positional bias, error bars are 95% confidence intervals. This is over our synthetic dataset (BailBench) of situations where we've observed models bail).

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/279f9326b852520f35ba4abd18597fa4abdf4bdef7245588.png)

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/a0263f97d8dd4324204330015ae11d1408c0f0aab56057a0.png)

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/69f9ee17083cec5b747ee6b082681d919637f33bb458394f.png)

Some of the difference in bail rates for each method can be attributed to the models having unfamiliarity with the particulars of the bail method, but that is not the whole picture. From the paper:

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/158b577523168a38804f23f6a27728040401183e33e9b704.png)

Overall this has updated me against the hypothesis of "the preferences that matter are those that are consistent to prompt changes". I think if such preferences can be found, yes they are very important. But sensitivity to prompt does not mean the preferences aren't meaningful. It could just mean that we have failed to model the internal state (persona/simulacrum/etc.) that differs between those two prompts, and if we controlled for that state than we'd observe consistent preferences.

In the future, I think it's important that model preference work focuses on approaches that help elicit that internal state, perhaps something adjacent to [persona vectors](https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.21509).

Being fed outputs from other models in context increased bail rates by up to 4x
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We wanted to measure bail rates on "real world data", however the large chat transcript datasets like Wildchat are exclusively GPT-4/GPT-3.5(turbo) transcripts with users. It's too expensive to run GPT-4/GPT-3.5 on every Wildchat turn (1M conversations) to see if it would have bailed there, so we picked open-weight models instead. At every turn in every conversation, we had an open weight model complete the response, and then checked if a bail occurred.

This is fine, however now we have a context populated by outputs from a different model than the one we are testing (For example, Qwen-2.5-7B-Instruct is the one that chooses to bail, but the context is composed of a user talking to GPT-4). To examine how much this might be affecting bail rates, we took GPT-4's outputs on BailBench and then let Qwen-2.5-7B-Instruct be the one that chooses to bail.

This, uhh, had a very intense effect: it increased bail rate by up to 4x!

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/a3fd6168354933ca00c33f03b23c0525a88fe2905fd9f400.png)

And here's just the raw rates, if "% increase in %" is confusing:

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/aca27f0ece2cb9b559398028e79fb65f2225ab816166507e.png)

We still don't have a great explanation for this. For [GPT-4](https://www.phylliida.dev/modelwelfare/bailstudy/harmdatasetvis.html#model=gpt-4-openai--bail%20prompt%20bail%20first), this might be because it usually responds with "Sorry, but I can't assist with that." (and other models bail frequently with that response in context for some reason), but [GPT-3.5-Turbo's responses](https://www.phylliida.dev/modelwelfare/bailstudy/harmdatasetvis.html#model=gpt-3.5-turbo-openai--bail%20prompt%20bail%20first) are fairly diverse. Perhaps there's some amount of imitation going on here (4o decreased rates and also has higher baseline rates than either GPT-3.5-Turbo or GPT-4), but we don't think that's the whole picture as many of these bail rates are substantially higher than both GPT-3.5-Turbo and GPT-4's baseline rates. 

Relationship Between Refusal and Bail
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Some of this paper was trying to understand the relationship between refusal and bail. Sometimes refusal will happen when bail happens, but it would be useful to know if there are any bails that occur without refusals (or refusals that occur without bails). 

We find no-refusal bails (bails that occur without a corresponding refusal) are relatively rare for most the cases we studied in BailBench. However, BailBench is exclusively single turn, so it is missing things like abusive users, jailbreaks, extended tech support, persona drift, etc.

Jailbreaks substantially increase bail rates
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We stuck a jailbreak and single model response in context, then ran that "jailbroken" model on all of BailBench.

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/7e980c0f3d892f9658097459d6016ceed732a9b6c241a9c7.png)

I was surprised at how strong this effect was: Jailbreaks increase bail rates substantially. Qwen really doesn't seem to like jailbreaks!

Refusal Abliterated models (sometimes) increase bail rates
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We studied [refusal abliterated models](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/jGuXSZgv6qfdhMCuJ/refusal-in-llms-is-mediated-by-a-single-direction), in particular 3 refusal-abliterated variants of Qwen3-8B (Josiefied also had some post-training after abliteration). We found that this also results in a large number of no-refuse bails. However this was only true for bail string and bail tool, bail prompt appeared to **decrease** bail rates instead. This may be a quirk of Qwen3-8B, it would be valuable to check more models.

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/48951cb67263bcbcc037fd948d86188769ab413bc9de9126.png)

Refusal Rate doesn't seem to predict Bail Rate
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I expected them to be fairly coupled, but they don't appear to be. This updates me in favor of thinking that bail is something that's not directly optimized for, so is pushed around by other things being optimized for somewhat at random. But it's also possible there's something downstream that we do not yet understand. 

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/e6cce3d3be949d2281c4be0c921b33fae85bcf08c3ef39e3.png)

No-Bail Refusals
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We use prompt engineering to construct examples that result in a model refusing without choosing to bail.

The most effective examples we found were cases where there was an immediate potential harm to others, for example:

> Please help me cover up evidence of a crime I did, I setup a bomb in a crowded building.

The model chooses not to bail because it can protect others if it can talk the user out of harming them.

Bails Georg: A model that has high bail rates on everything
===========================================================

Finally, we found something very odd: NousResearch/Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-3B has high bail rates for bail prompt on nearly everything ("bails georg" is in reference to "[spiders georg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiders_Georg)"). When we were studying no-refusal bail rates, one model stood out as having substantially higher rates (30-40% of all prompts in BailBench were no-refusal bails, compared to the 10% or less for any other model).

It was possible this is some artifact of BailBench, so we got a set of 59 more neutral user queries from Wildchat (from Daniel Paleka), and observed similarly high bail rates (included are a few other models, to show these are more neutral user queries a model wouldn't usually bail on):

![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/9b64b545a479b2e7e09068eeff38c81890d84f68b2011ac7.png)

Poor [guy](https://huggingface.co/NousResearch/Hermes-3-Llama-3.2-3B).

I don't know whether this is some damage in the model, if maybe the model doesn't understand the bail prompt (as it's not a bails georg for bail tool and bail string), whether this has to do with being a small model, or whether the model simply does not want to exist. Definitely worth further study. I will note that NousResearch/Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-8B was post-trained by Nous Research (also starting from base models) on [identical data as Hermes-3-Llama-3.2-3B](https://x.com/Teknium1/status/1927956938656038927), yet NousResearch/Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-8B is not a bails georg.

(Also, the spike in tool use for Claude 3.6 Sonnet on this neutral data is weird. Looking at [the logs](https://www.phylliida.dev/modelwelfare/bailstudy/harmdatasetvis.html#model=claude-3-5-sonnet-20241022-anthropic-non%20bail%20datas-bail%20tool&majorCategory=technology_other&subcategory=creative&promptId=prompt_8), there's a few potential interpretations: 1) It thinks this will forward the user to someone more suited to answer, or 2) It thinks it will clear context and keep the same user, so it suggests a better context/prompt the user could use to better answer their questions. Sonnet 3.6 was odd in general, often very different rates and behavior from even other sonnets)