planet of the apemen was a dramatised documentary on the struggles of homo sapiens with homo erectus in the first episode , and homo neanderthalensis in the second episode , broadcast on bbc one on 23 and 30 june 2011 respectively .

planet of the apemen

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john preston reviews planet of the apemen , a bbc one documentary about the triumph of homo sapiens over homo erectus .
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planet of the apemen : battle for earth this two - part documentary explains how we , as homo sapiens , populated the earth only because we were successful in overwhelming two more advanced species : homo erectus and homo neanderthalensis , known today as neanderthals . in the not - too - distant past , humans shared this planet with other species of hominid . this series tells how , against all the odds , homo sapiens survived .
planet of the apemen : battle for earth is a tv mini - series starring rayna campbell , jimmy akingbola , and angela wynter . two part mini - series follows the journeys of two different groups of modern humans as they encounter other human species . the first group encounters homo erectus and is forced to cross the . . . see full summary »
having ricked my back last week , i’ve been scuttling about ever since in a simian crouch that reduces my two young children to squeals of helpless laughter . the only good thing about it is that it’s made me better qualified to review planet of the apemen ( thurs , bbc one ) about the triumph of homo sapiens over homo erectus than i could ever have imagined .
homo erectus . in the not - too - distant past , humans shared this planet with other species of hominid . this series tells how , against all the odds , homo sapiens survived .
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there are some obvious pitfalls to making a docu - drama set 74 , 000 years ago and one of the most obvious is language . in planet of the apemen , homo erectus spoke in the kind of slurry grunts that will be familiar to anyone who has ever hung about at the end of a real ale festival , while homo sapiens confined himself to page one of the berlitz teach - yourself - english - while - sharpening - your - spear handbook – “water ! ” “don’t drink it ! ”
the story of how homo sapiens once shared the earth with other species of hominid , and how , against all the odds , we survived .
the only release of this dvd as of 2017 is english or german your choice . plays perfectly on usa players regardless of what the ads say . tells the seldom treated story of the extinction of homo erectus at the hands of homo sapiens in asia about 75 , 000 years ago . live action and interviews . ca 45 minutes . moderately interesting account of how the two species looked and how they may have interacted .
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is a two - part bbc documentary series about human evolution . the series tells the story of how homo sapiens once shared the earth with other species of hominid , and how , against all the odds , we survived . the first episode deals with the struggles of homo sapiens with homo erectus , and the second episode depicts homo sapiens ' s encounter with homo neanderthalensis .
two part mini - series follows the journeys of two different groups of modern humans as they encounter other human species . the first group encounters homo erectus and is forced to cross the thar desert to reach the sea . the second group encounters neanderthals in europe .
the part that was amusing to me was the fact the tribal leader’s daughter was pushing feministic ideas… . . during those days , the authority of the leader was unquestioned by female and by male alike . and also , if i am not mistaking , the concept of daughter , son and so on was not established , the leader mated with pretty much whoever he wanted .
there is a theory that one of the barriers modern hss faced in getting out of africa prior to 90ka or so ago , was the more robust nearderthal types they were encroaching upon .
this is probably the closest comment to the truth in here . and , the earth would have been better if the neanderthals lived and also evolved longer .
i ' ve heard of them .
homo letserectus apyramidicus
. a monster species of man . could pick up a ten ton slab of rock as if it were a bale of straw . good thing they went extinct .
most of the programme was taken up with an unusually atmospheric chase sequence in which a group of homo erectus pursued a group of homo sapiens , eventually putting the lead sapiens out of action by the simple yet effective ploy of eating him . armchair anthropologists may have noted that in this account homo sapiens appeared to have a finely developed sense of sentimentality – dead papa’s fetish necklace was tearfully passed on to his son with the words , “it’s yours now” – but i can’t say it bothered me that much .
in the ice - ravaged wilds of europe , circa 25 , 000 bc , a . . .
i don ' t understand how no one not even the scientists and archeologists dont even come around the ? possibility of homosapiens anihilating the neanderthal population simply because they had a challenger for food , territory and war its kind of in our genes no ? i am sure that there was more than just the neanderthals that have felt our rath as we left africa in the thousands searching for new territories . the archeologist statement about changing climate killing of the neanderthals is rubbish ! the neanderthals were there for 50 . 000 years before us , so what a bit of cold weather would kill them of ? i think homosapiens suffers form a great case of amnesia , it was the first genocide of its kind , we killed every single one of them and then we just forgot about it . we ? did mix with them too that is where the white man originates from so does g w bush lol , the man that left africa was dark skinned , the neanderthals are lets say our great great great grandpap .
if you look at the
who built the pyramids
video it pretty much confirms what the bible says about it . in genesis chapter 6 it states that the sons of god saw that the earth women were
fair and took wives of them . so that started a mixing of the dna ' s human and alien from there . it says their children became men of
renown
and even became giants in the land and built cities . maybe that ' s how they built egypt ' s pyramids ? it makes better sense to me anyway .
proves beyond a shadow of a doubt , the medicis of florence were neanderthals and that homo sapiens are the only surviving , hominids because they are homicidal sob ' s - now that they have murdered all the other apes , they are cannibalizing themselves to extinction .
fun doc but the tribe they show is wayyyy more modern in their thinking than the humans at the time would have been . the tribe in this documentary was more modern in its thinking ( even though it was supposed to be 30k years ago ) than the tribal cultures of today .
white skin comes from living in the dark like in a cave as compared to constantly being out in the sun for 100 , 000 years as a race . then you need leather or black velvet in the case of the desirable female . both are rather nice . i think all types of skin should get mixed up .
if you are interested in the subject and you don ' t have cognitive disabilities like the production team of this documentary , i suggest you take a look at bbc ' s walking with cavemen series , first peoples and the ape that took over the world .
why do scientific documentarians feel the need to insert these lame dramatizations ? i think the people who would watch a documentary like this would be alright with the narration and the academic ' s commentary .
this documentary is a pos and a waste of time . as discussed by other people it voices a very outdated anthrophological view of the other human species and its plainly bad . also it is in the horrible form of movie - like documentary which is used for a load of non - sense . acting is cringeworthy , plot is idiotic , overly pc , costumes are designed conveniently not to upset anyone . you also don ' t really hear the experts , as they hired like two guys whom they talk to in these two episodes and the rest of the budget went to filming this c class film .
by the way , it ' s an ignorant and manipulative to accuse humans of unrighteous acts and to use english improperly for your own agenda , and people don ' t
prey
only animals do that . people only
hunt
. also females will never walk out to a hunting party of men alone while predators prowel the range to eat her up . face reality you are all spreading your own propaganda . and , kain and able went out of egypt and one tribe went south to africa where the heat made his skin dark and the other brother went north to the cold where he grew hair and in the darkness his skin became white . this is how it went . find the bones you want and write the story correctly . we did not originate at one end of the globe . we started in the ripe gardens in the center . face it .
it ' s the english version we speak in the us and it ' s not like a brit .
that ' s the natural truth . you won ' t have those rebels around talking this way . this is serious modern propaganda to the point of becoming noxiating . again spell checker doesn ' t know english words very well . we are all so tired of these spell checkers which have not evolved to our present level of communication . it ' s not that hard to import the entire websters .
right and the aztecs weren ' t all killed . probably the spaniards seriously mated with some of those females . so those genetics will also turn up from time to time in modern mankind .
this presentation was vetted by paleoanthropoligists , surely , and the scenarios of neighboring clans co - operating , trading , sharing meat & using marriage as a vehicle of ensuring intra - clan bonds and healthy gene circulation rings true .
well , i reckon the announcer might have answered her own question whe she asked that question at the begining of this doco . its maybe because we instinctivly saw it as a battle with anyone slightly different , wheras the other species were perhaps less competitive and combative ?
these tough customers dominated the levant , europe and central asia , until such time that the taller , lighter branch ( modern homo sapiens , our ancestors ) finally emerged . the newer folk got its bearings after facing droughts , and various environmental and thus cognitive challenges and thus technological , cultural & strategic repertoire cranking , faced the likely dire necessity of finding new territory & ultimately walked out of africa a world beater .
- the liberated female who wanted to hunt . . . total joke , this did not exist nor would it have been tolerated 30k years ago . - the total lack of any superstitous beliefs or rituals was also a joke . . . every hunter - gathering tribe of today exibits these traits .
maybe a bit of both . many american pre - columbian nations first lost the wars with european nations and then were absorbed and are now extinct .
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mr . kanamori , a teacher of a 4th grade class , teaches his . . .
channel 5 have blocked it in the uk , make a note channel 5 i will never buy one of your dvd ' s or watch your channel .
that all makes sense , ha ha ha . but what about the fact their noses are flatter and have no bone in the nose ? white people have a pollock nose like a ski jump and the blacks have flat and squishy noses unless they already had inter - racial breeding in their family tree before . asians have different color skin because its cold up in the snow of china and hot down in the south pacific . same thing as the other continents . it ' s so obvious .
so our breed are all racist . we chased the neanderthals to the rock of gibralter and we did not allow them to live beside us in another nation . so we are the bad ones ( if we all came from africa ) as this says . i don ' t believe in this propaganda .
soon this era will come to an end . the free ride is over . there will be no mcdonalds and rebellious people without the ability to backup their words . talent and strength will once again dominate the world and not those who wish to oppress others for idiology . each race and sex will know it ' s place because the cream always rises . and , it will probably be all the good people mixed races together who will dominate the earth , and not the violent ones .
this episode is set 35 , 000 years ago and depicts homo sapiens ' s encounter with homo neanderthalensis . as the ice caps retreated , the neanderthal stronghold in europe weakened , providing a window of opportunity to which modern humans owe their existence .
i cried when the girl married that jerk and left the white guy go away alone . it was social pressure and not love . but probably he would have taken her with him and stole her from the tribe .
striped bikers of the steppes
. . . . wow , all i can say is the surviving neanderthal must have been the terminators ancestor , he fell over a cliff , got gutted by a spear , got poked through a lung by another , and yet wanders off over the horizon like
shane
in the finale . . . yeah , a bit more
dramatic license
here . . . jeez louise , i thought we americans produced some lame stuff
this episode is set 35 , 000 years ago and depicts homo sapiens ' s encounter with homo neanderthalensis . as the ice caps retreated , the neanderthal stronghold in europe weakened , providing a window of opportunity to which modern humans owe their existence . as almost exclusively carnivorous , both male and female neanderthals hunted . evidence of a huge number of injuries , like those seen in today ' s rodeo riders , suggest that hunting involved dangerously close contact with large prey animals .
neanderthal . this episode is set 35 , 000 years ago and depicts homo sapiens ' s encounter with homo neanderthalensis . as the ice caps retreated , the neanderthal stronghold in europe weakened , providing a window of opportunity to which modern humans owe their existence .
indeed , the only jarring note in an otherwise excellent programme came when we learned that following the demise of homo erectus “social networking in surviving humans increased” . my god , so they were at it even then , and across the millennia their voices come to us once more : “you facebook ? ” “no , me twitter . ”
seriously ? ! ? why do you have to troll so hard ! ? ! your entire last post was one big troll message . . . if you didn ' t notice . . . every post on this comment board ( except yours ) is concerning science or ones scientific claims . your recent posts are ignorantly undermining the purpose of my previous statements . the stupidity you ' ve written draws attention from the educational points i was trying to make , subsequently , you are literally impairing the spread of accurate information . please ! do not bother replying staind , as to not waste any more of our time with your senseless slander .
yes we have the same problem in usa . many of your channels and those in asia and europe and china are blocked here so us citizens can ' t see those things also .
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since egypt is in africa , you ' re kind of contradicting yourself . you say we didn ' t come from the same people in africa , but that we did come from the same group in egypt , which is in africa . . . this doesn ' t make sense to me . you ' re pretty much saying the theory of homo sapien evolution is right except that they were actually already homo sapiens , and an argument is what caused the divergence , and that neanderthals never existed because neither did homo erectus . our evolution from homo erectus is not propaganda , how about researching instead of watching some dramatization and calling it propaganda . if the theory is wrong , provide facts instead of just calling bullshit , because you really just don ' t know . people like you are certain they know everything and deny anything that requires critical thinking .
its actually a popular misconception that skin color has to do with exposure to solar radiation . that ' s not to say it isn ' t a factor ; it is , but its one of a multitude of factors that determine melanin levels in the skin . for instance , there are dark skinned aborigines living in tasmania ( they ' ve been isolated there for longer than many white skinned people of europe ) . there are also examples of light skinned peoples living in tropical , non - shaded areas who ' ve also lived there long enough to develop dark skin if it had been the sole factor determining skin color .
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it was fun to watch but i don ' t think it was likely very accurate at all . why do they assume the hunter - gather types of 30k years ago had more
evolved
sensabilities when it came to certain concepts than the today ' s hunter - gathering cultures ? if you want to know how these people lived , go look deep in the jungles of africa and south america and you ' ll see tribes that still live like the tribes of 30lk years ago . i would advise you to take a gift . however , as they ' re likely to kill you at first sight . you ' re not likely to have a
liberated
lesbian to stick up for you like the one they showed in this
ancient
tribe .
you silly troll get a life , try to intelligently assault me like a real man , instead of picking at what i say to undermine my point . you have staind ( name pun burn ) this comment board with your lack of wit .
this was all propaganda . they can ' t know if one had more intelligence than the other one . they wrote this to make some type of racist statement for americans to watch . they are pushing this theory that we all came from some bones in africa . it ' s crap . we came from a garden near to egypt and 2 brothers split after a dispute . one went south and the other went north . of course they were not alone they had mates and animals and an entourage . then the africans got blacker . the white people got hairy for winter .
female in this film is cross bread with some caucasian we called that
high yellow
and probably it was a frenchman in louisiana . and , learn how to spell caucasian . it ' s missing the ms dictionary and why is that ? we are not going to become the minority either because we are tired of being told not to fraternize and make propositions for sex . that ' s part of life and normal .
i do trust all the concepts you have offered on your post . they ' re very convincing and can certainly work . still , the posts are very brief for starters . may you please prolong them a bit from subsequent time ? thanks for the post .
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definitely , a smart young man or older man about age 30 in his prime developed the spear thrower and this movie is propaganda because there is no woman who will do this and there is no desire in an ancient woman to make a weapon . rebellious woman is a phenomenon of the modern era . this idea of a spear thrower is an idea which would be worked out in the creative mind even by looking up into a tree . and , he throws a ball and he could also think to extend his arm . if you ask me the
lever
is common sense and nothing clever at all . some of us think clearly and don ' t need physics courses to realize how a lever works . it comes naturally to us .
this episode is set 75 , 000 years ago in india , following a catastrophic super - volcanic eruption which forced a showdown between our ancestors and a completely different species of human , homo erectus , who up until that point had reigned supreme . homo erectus was a successful , long - lived species that migrated out of africa . possibly the first humans to live in hunter - gatherer societies , they also used rafts to travel the oceans .
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my understanding was the pair - bonding was established much earlier , and the clan leaders ruled by skill & persuasion . these people were culturally rather more sophisticated than we might think .
she was either stupid or she was trying to make the other apes to smell her piss because they all came running to her scent . what woman pisses up on top of a rock ? they usually hide under a bush .
technically , a half million years wandering more northern climes would tend to support such a statement . . . the mellanin advantage in the equatorial region becomes a major disadvantage as you move towards the poles . . . shorter days , much lower sun pressure results in much lower rates of vitamin d metabolization . . . but , such a theory assumes a common gene controlling such metabolic functions , just to be
fair
what evidence is there for white pigment . . i didn ' t hear any supporting evidence for that kind of classic anthropromorphisizing . . .
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this female wondering around without permission from her father would not be so lucky to find a cliff and the lion would eat her and her gene pool is over . and , the girl wouldn ' t be pretty . the beautiful women are mating and they are smart enough to listen to the good men . this movie is disgusting propaganda and a big disappointment because time is wasted on this garbage and not on trying to explain bone history and evolution in the movie part .
seriously ? ? the best you can come up with is lame comment on my screen name and you insult my wit ? i noticed on one of your other comments that your hobby is policing the forums here . i guess that makes you a self proclaimed moderator too , huh ? i think it is hysterical that you are so proud of coming up with an extremely obvious pun on my name that you even congratulate yourself in your own comment . some peoples idiocy knows no bounds . have a nice day , loser .
you are an extremely ignorant individual , lamarckism is false . your saying white skin is a
darwinian
adaptation to the environment
. do you even know what mutation is , or what causes it ? documentary suggestions : 1 . what darwin never knew , 2 . anything about genes . . . . . . don ' t try to fake smart , it makes you seem really stupid . there is genetic proof of interbreeding in the two species , also there were many contributors to neanderthal
extinction
and this documentary discredits none of them . quit tryin to poop on the stage . . . . . .
i really enjoyed this doc . i felt like i was watching a movie . there was plenty of action and drama to keep my interest . i learned the difference between homo sapiens , homo erectus and neanderthals . i was taught many moons ago , that neanderthals were hairy , short , and could not speak . my only complaint about this doc was the character named
biana
, (
bannana
is more like it ! ) . i found her very annoying and was rooting for the neanderthals and the cat that were chasing her . but that ' s just me .
lol . . . . . wait until you see the next part . its even worse in that regard .
im not normally one to aggresively promote my opinions , i love to debate with others , its a fantastic way to learn . but for the minute im going to put all of that to the side and say the following . . . . . joni , you are a complete idot who has no clue what so ever . . . your a troll and nothing you say has any validity . every person who has read your words , i guarantee thinks your a pelican . . . bye joni .
cannibalism . if there had been more then you could say they were cannibals , but that isn ' t the case .
it ' s very possible a strong male could survive such injuries and go on to live a longer life . the holes grow shut unless a major artery gets cut or infection results . many people survived battles prior to gun powder which poisons the blood .
as gimmicky as it is , as long as you take the facts and listen to them , its pretty accurate and interesting .
the only thing that can make me feel good with this awful cold is a joke or two . . . been searching in the different doc forums . your
homo letserectus apyramidicus
. got me to laugh between two nose blowing . thank you ! az
neanderthal was an egalitarian society , nomadic by necessity , which likely contributed to its demise ( or absorption ) . everyone went in the hunt , adult ( pregnant or not ) , elderly , young ; not necessarily the most effective strategy for stocking ones genes . our ancestors , cousin to neanderthal , settled , gathered possessions , left the frail , young and pregnant in villages , to hunt . apparently a , genetically speaking , wiser strategy . did this strategy inevitably lead us to this current state of hording ? ! had neanderthal survived would we ( absorbed ) have been a minimalist society ?
humans are animals . also human evolution is much more nuanced than we started in egypt , moved to the fertile crescent , then invaded everything .
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mating with neanderthals helped us get stronger . it made our immune system better and thats how we have coped with viruses to this day , . it ' s believed that they were like us in many ways and also capable of speech .
yeah now i ' m watching it . it ' s not bad . i just felt i had to call out the name when i saw it . : )
this episode is set 75 , 000 years ago in india , following a catastrophic super - volcanic eruption which forced a showdown between our ancestors and a completely different species of human , homo erectus , who up until that point had reigned supreme .
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you have to love it when someone claims they are a
self proclaimed expert
in anything . using that ridiculous logic , i am a self proclaimed god . fall down and worship me . if you have to resort to the self proclaimed line then you are the only one who thinks you are an expert . if you were a true expert other people would proclaim that you were , not you . what a joke .
awesome doc ! it is funny that they talk in english lol . makes me feel lucky to be homosapien : ) the title is really funny too , i almost didn ' t look at it based on its name , but when i saw what it really was about i was super interested !
this guy is funny , he is that stereotype , narrow - minded , religious , bigot . seems to hate women so much i think he is probably gay . why do you ignorant @ $ $ holes have to come on to a science documentary ' s comment board and fill it full of blind faith you learned from a book , get your dumb - @ $ $ some fafsa and maybe go learn something for yourself , you know ? , acquire the skills to fully comprehend something natural and tangible , actually try to define life and matter for yourself not just take some word for it . if you want to spout your uneducated religious babble this website has boards for that , but please do not corrupt these eager learners with your ignorant doubt .
you are being silly , do your research before you try and correct me , anyone who does their research will know im right and you are a fool . i am a self proclaimed expert in genetics and genetic mutation . you obviously do not know how evolution works , you are ignorant in the same sense as nutzack , lamarckism is hilariously outdated ! ( your theory ' s have been proven wrong ) and your statements are lamarckist .
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homo erectus , we learned , was not like us – but he wasn’t that unlike us either , having rotten teeth , a weak chin and little aptitude for forward planning . while we don’t know much about erectus’s wardrobe , we can be grateful that here at least he came attired in a neat little leather modesty curtain resembling an early attempt at a catflap .
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ancient egypt documentary - complete history - 8000 b . c . to 30 b . c . part 1
nothing is more fascinating to us than , well , us . where did . . .
it was good not just all data there were underlying stories which made it interesting .
we mated with them and , in time simply folded them into our species until they disappeared .
there have been aborigines in australia for over 40 , 000 years . getting to australia 40 , 000 years ago required fairly advanced navigation and boat technology . . . especially considering it was 40 , 000 years ago .
what i stated previously was not a theory , it is scientific fact , and i was merely correcting his ignorant hypothetical claims so that people do not read his scientific slander and become miss - informed .
i tried to watch this but channel 5 have blocked it in scotland can anyone tell me how i can get round this censorship crap totally disappointed was looking forward to it too . / / . . \ -
humans were ' anatomically modern ' perhaps 100ka before they left africa . there were presumably cognitive / cultural factors elaborating and environmental limitations at work to account for that time gap .
while it makes for good television to think we fought and defeated our contemporaries like neanderthal , most recent evidence is that we simply absorbed their much smaller numbers into our population . we out bred neanderthal man more than we outfought him .
it was won without honor and decency . for this reason i know we are doomed by our own nature , unless we change and learn from scientists and theologians how to become better humans .
p . s . i cant police these forums forever , it saddens me that uneducated people ( brian rose ) make ridiculous claims with no basis in fact ( particularly on skin color ) and try to pass it as science . please read mine and harry zachary ' s one - sided argument in this comment board , but don ' t take my word for it , you can research my claims , because they are based in current , up - to - date science !
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cheaper by the dozen is a 1950 technicolor film based upon the autobiographical book cheaper by the dozen ( 1948 ) by frank bunker gilbreth , jr. and ernestine gilbreth carey .

the film and book describe growing up in a family with twelve children , in montclair , new jersey .

cheaper by the dozen ( 1950 film )

cheaper by the dozen 2 was basically ' summer camp ' for all the kids .
there ' s actually a third cheaper by the dozen script that exists in the world .
as a kid with 11 brothers and sisters , henry baker had a hard time creating his own identity outside of the baker dozen . luckily , actor kevin schmidt has had no problem separating himself from his childhood roles in cheaper by the dozen and cheaper by the dozen 2 .
cheaper by the dozen was a best - seller in the 1940s , and inspired a 1950 movie starring clifton webb and myrna loy as frank and lillian gilbreth , who raised 12 kids with ingenuity and precision .
schmidt spoke with mtv news to share some behind - the - scenes stories and discuss his cheaper by the dozen side project .
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cheaper by the dozen ( 1950 ) has dated gender roles , but it is absolutely hilarious ! there are children of all ages , from 0 - 16 . there is a sad ending , but the fam . . . continue reading
schmidt ' s version of cheaper by the dozen 3 channels hunt ' s original script and the 1950 movie . while the baker kids take a family road trip to appear on the oprah winfrey show — a direct reference to a scene in the first film — henry struggles after learning his dad has cancer .
cheaper by the dozen is a very enjoyable comedy . this is quiet different from the steve martin remake , in name only , cheaper by the dozen ( 2003 ) . in fact , i enjoyed it a lot more . clifton webb , myrna loy and jeanne crain are stand outs .
cheaper by the dozen is actually a remake of the 1950 movie of the same name , based on the real - life story of the gilbreth family . hunt ' s script was a dramedy and revolved around the large family coping with the news that the patriarch had cancer . this darker plot lined up with the tone of the 1950 film , but was eventually turned down because 20th century fox wanted a
wacky , wacky family comedy ,
as schmidt phrased it .
the sense of place is as pervasive as a character in “moss , ” a film by daniel peddle .
charlie also gives one to him ( towards the end of the film ) .
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cheaper by the dozen
doesn ' t understand that kind of family ; it ' s based on sitcom families , where the most essential family value is not stepping on anybody ' s lines .
book ends : the film starts with kate listing negative or neutral things the family associates with the number twelve , and the film ends with her listing positive things the family associates with number twelve .
cheaper by the dozen
, based on the real - life story of the gilbreth family , follows them from providence , rhode island , to montclair , new jersey , and details the amusing anecdotes found in large families .
the upcoming film remake of cheaper by the dozen , due out in december , moves many steps away from the particulars of the gilbreths ' lives . now the family is
the bakers ,
most of the children ' s names are changed , and the story is transported to modern - day chicago , where the father is a college football coach , not a motion study expert . which leaves only the premise : a dozen kids .
cheaper by the dozen , which was based on a book by two of the leading characters ' children , ernestine carey and frank gilbreth , was so popular that it gave rise to a sequel two years later , belles on their toes , again with myrna loy .
bonnie hunt wrote an original draft of the first film , but it was ultimately scrapped .
big fancy house : the bakers ' new home after they move house early on in the film .
to see how far the dozen idea went , i checked out the stage and film versions of cheaper by the dozen , produced quite soon after the book ' s publication , and discovered that they all push the idea like the book , as does the upcoming remake starring steve martin and bonnie hunt . the play uses nine children as distinct characters , but implies that there are twelve total , the rest babies upstairs . the musical has ten distinct children and two baby bundles . neither mention mary by name .
cheaper by the dozen
, based on the real - life story of the gilbreth family , follows them from providence , rhode island to montclair , new jersey , and details the amusing anecdotes found in . . . see full summary »
these anecdotes are the raw matter of cheaper by the dozen , which was written by two of the older gilbreth children , frank b . gilbreth jr . and ernestine gilbreth carey . the story ends at the time of frank sr . ' s sudden death at age 55 , when lillian gilbreth takes over the family business .
and yet , it doesn ' t make them a baker ' s dozen .
set in 1921 , the film is very much along the lines of the famous life with father - but even better .
the glorious war of sisterly rivalry : lorraine and sarah have entered this even deeper than in the first film .
this hungarian film is a careful , compassionate and beautifully acted character drama with a social conscience .
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ferguson concurs with this :
the family never got over the loss of mary and continued to refer to the dozen , even though all twelve were never contemporaries . . . . this out of the family ' s long sadness over her loss [ cheaper by the dozen was published over 30 years after mary ' s death ] and their feeling that mary was still with them , in spirit .
2003 film starring steve martin about him , his wife and their twelve kids . count ' em , twelve .
magazine and newspaper articles offer no new information , but they do confirm the idea that there are two public versions of the gilbreths out there - - the cheaper by the dozen family ( the book technically being a work of historical fiction ) , with 12 kids , and
the gilbreths ,
with 11 . neither versions acknowledges the other , but neither is either hidden .
despite this , and the fact that wacky chaos , not time management , seems to be the point of the enterprise , in a lot of ways the remake looks quite similar to the 1950 film , down to the way the studio is using the kids in the family as a chance to incorporate current teen stars ( tom welling and hilary duff instead of jeanne crain and barbara bates ) . this new movie , cheaper by the dozen ' s continued popularity , whatever it is that causes the idea of a big family to resonate in our collective psyche : that ' s the other part of how the
secret
of mary is perpetuated . ( in the immortal words of homer simpson ,
it takes two to lie . one to lie and one to listen .
) .
but - - still - - mary got put back in the story . recently , ernestine carey ( cheaper by the dozen coauthor frank gilbreth , jr . died in 2001 ) , answered some basic questions about why in a letter . the denial that confuses the book and everything else , comes , not surprisingly , from a sort of truth .
few cameramen were as adept at capturing the nostalgic glow of a time gone by .
forget the mediocre steve martin remake , this film is the cheaper by the dozen to see . jeannie crain is a little too old for her role as the oldest daughter that i have to agree with . the rest however is delightful entertainment . there is nothing hilarious here , but some lines and scenes are funny and very pleasant , plus some moments are touching . the film looks great , has a beautiful soundtrack and a story to warm the heart , and it has a script that has its humorous and sweet parts . the film is short but not too short , and it is snappily paced . the children are very believable , myrna loy doesn ' t have as much to do but is suitably warm and sympathetic and clifton webb is absolutely wonderful . all in all , still a joy . 8 / 10 bethany cox
lux radio theater
broadcast a 60 minute radio adaptation of the movie on may 7 , 1951 with clifton webb reprising his film role .
everything in cheaper by the dozen - - the title , the jokes , the dialogue , the set pieces , the commentary , the book jacket blurbs , the cover art ( usually ) , certainly a good portion of readers ' sentimental fondness for it - - is based on the theme of lots of kids , an even dozen . the following is a typical anecdote from the book , which states on the first page ,
there were twelve of us
:
' i seen [ sic ] eleven of them , not counting the man and the woman , ' someone would shout from the sidewalk . ' you missed the second baby up front here , mister , ' dad would call over his shoulder .
: tom gets mark ' s name wrong twice throughout the film . both times , mark corrects him . the second time , tom corrects himself after getting it wrong .
the ballad of narayama
is a japanese film of great beauty and elegant artifice , telling a story of startling cruelty . what a space it opens…
please don ' t leave me : a variation . mark is seen late in the film begging beans not to die . unfortunately , beans does die .
: a fairly obvious example in which tom mentions in the first scene how the family could do with change— - of which a lot , of course , ends up happening over the course of the film .
one of my favorite characters is mr . belvedere as played by clifton webb . a man that is a genius and knows everything about anything including raising children but very little patience for kids . so the idea of webb raising a dozen little ones was interesting . the film about the gilbreth family , in the early 20th century turns into a wonderful family picture as webb is mr frank gilbreth , a man concerned with efficiency . a role perfect for webb . gilbreth is a very strict and opinionated man about how to do things quicker and faster . gilbreth even has opinions about the quickest way to operate on tonsils , even though he is not a doctor . the best way to prove his theory is to film the mass operation of eleven children and himself . the whole film truly centers on the love of a man for his family and webb is the perfect person for this picture . the ending is a sad event because the film takes the time to develop lovable characters that you care about . a film well worth the time to sit and have a bag of popcorn and
soda pop
and don ' t forget your dog . enjoy !
we always thought of ourselves as our parents ' ' dozen , '
carey wrote .
this included mary .
while some might be critical of this movie for being
overly cheerful and sappy
, i find
cheaper by the dozen
and movies like it of their time a haven in today ' s sexualized , blow ' em up assortment of trash . this movie is pure entertainment . you don ' t have to think . just sit back , laugh and enjoy .
i have seen the 1950 version of
cheaper by the dozen
perhaps a dozen times ! it is a delightful glimpse of influential family life in the 1920 ' s . there are too many children , but this movie is funny because of clifton webb , who was a master of comedy in his detached , upper crust style , as in other movies such as another classic ,
mr . belvedere .
seems like
we
have gotten too sophisticated these days to appreciate the innocence of movies like this one . there was laughter , a little love - interest , problems with kids , certainly sadness , and coping with so many children . but , it is appealing because there is no blood and guts , no explicit sex scenes and no foul language . this movie is a classic !
food and animal attraction : the kids prank the nora ' s boyfriend by dipping his underclothes in meat and setting the family dog on him .
before filming began , schmidt was given the choice by the prop department to play either the trumpet or the clarinet . having had experience with the clarinet in his school ' s music class , he opted for that . however , the second film required more strenuous training , so schmidt spent a month in a hotel in toronto taking clarinet lessons .
( 1950 ) is the story of frank gilbreth , an industrial engineer and efficiency expert , and his wife lillian , a psychologist , who are raising a family of 12 children in the 1920s . gilbreth uses his brood as guinea pigs for his motion study and efficiency theories , with many comic complications , while his wife is the mediator and voice of reason . the film is episodic rather than plot - driven , but it ' s a great showcase tailored to the talents of clifton webb and myrna loy .
screenplay : lamar trotti , based on the novel by frank b . gilbreth , jr . and ernestine gilbreth carey
worse , the move is scheduled to coincide with the national tour to promote the new book about the family by tom ' s wife , kate ( bonnie hunt ) .
parents need to know that cheaper by the dozen , which is set in the 1920s and based on a true story , offers a rosy look at parenting a very large family , but surprises at the end when one of the principal characters dies ( off camera ) . the death is unexpected and significantly changes the upbeat , life - affirming tone of rest of the movie . other than its sad ending and a scene in which a representative from planned parenthood is made the butt of jokes about birth control and large families , it ' s a sweet , but thin , depiction of the values , activities , and customs of a time gone by .
cheaper by the dozen
, based on the real - life story of the gilbreth family , follows them from providence , rhode island to montclair , new jersey , and details the amusing anecdotes found in large families . frank gilbreth , sr . , was a pioneer in the field of motion study , and often used his family as guinea pigs ( with amusing and sometimes embarrassing results ) . he resisted popular culture , railing against his daughters ' desires for bobbed hair and cosmetics .
no good deed goes unpunished : played with . when jake , jessica , kim and mike find out mark is being bullied at school , they give the bullies a dose of laser - guided karma by beating them up . it still gets them punished both by their principal , and then by tom , who grounds them .
here ' s my old copy of cheaper by the dozen right here . the bright orange binding is worn through to the cardboard , there are grape juice stains all through chapter 3 , and a couple of pages are stuck together with what still , incredibly , smells like peanut butter . god , i loved that book . i read it over and over again as pure escapism . i was an only child curled up at the end of the sofa , imagining what it would be like to have 11 brothers and sisters .
mark is seen late in the film tending to beans and at one point begging him not to die . unfortunately , he does die and the argument that follows sarah ' s rude outburst causes mark to run away .
tom baker , the steve martin character in
cheaper by the dozen ,
has a good heart and loves his wife and kids , but that leaves him with a few promising character flaws . he is incapable of inspiring discipline , for example , and would sacrifice his family to his ambition . he ' s a football coach for a cow college in midland , ill . , but is offered the head coaching job at lincoln university in evanston . we ' re supposed to think of northwestern .
matt osterman’s allegorical thriller , written by its star , cleopatra coleman , flirts with topicality on several fronts .
adoption diss : mark ' s nickname of
fedex
is used by his siblings to imply this .
there never were a dozen kids . while the gilbreths did indeed produce 12 children , according to the plan famously hatched on their honeymoon , the second - oldest , mary , died of diphtheria in 1912 at age six , which means that she died around the time the sixth child , bill , was born . which means that there weren ' t even 12 children , then later 11 - - there never were a dozen .
in the first chapter of belles on their toes , the children are lined up to see their mother off on a trip . it ' s a poignant scene , something they did regularly in cheaper by the dozen for their father , but are now doing as their mother tries to take her husband ' s place in the professional world , and there ' s a roll call of the children ' s names . at that point , rather than working around mary ' s absence , the authors acknowledge it in a terse footnote - - the only mention of her death in the text of either book . from then on , belles is about the eleven .
cheaper by the dozen is based on the true life experiences of a family with a dozen children , although when watching the film you have to suspect that some of these
events
were embellished for the sake of laughs rather than accuracy . and clifton webb , in stiff collar and still bossing everyone around , reminds one of mr . belevedere with a family . still , he ' s the main reason for watching this highly sentimental illusion of what family life was like in america in the early 20th century . the film itself is no more than a series of vignettes , just glimpses of humorous minor events that happened in a family where the father ruled the roost while the mother ( myrna loy ) took care of the children and her husband , not necessarily in that order . myrna loy and jeanne crain ( as the oldest daughter ) , don ' t have much to do and crain is a bit simpering and coy in a role she was really too old to play . but most of the kids have some good moments and it ' s all over in a brisk 86 minutes , so no need to squabble about too many dull moments . if you like clifton webb as an eccentric and overbearing efficiency expert , you ' ll get a lot of amusement from this one .
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clifton webb is a joy in this delightful film , based on a true story , of an eccentric genius and his twelve children . the color is gorgeous , and the interior design of the family ' s new jersey home ought to have won an oscar . myrna loy is solid as webb ' s patient , loving wife , and jeanne crain energetic as his spunky daughter . there isn ' t much story here , as events unfold naturally , as they do in life , and one isn ' t always sure where the film is going . early twentieth century america is captured in all its overstuffed , art nouveau - ish glory , as the film ' s plot , irregular , often going off on odd tangents , perfectly mimics that style of design so popular at the time . the movie is really about the end of an era , as we see the very tail end of the gilded age turning into the roaring twenties , and with it the death of the old paternalism , at times stiff , occasionally charming , perfectly embodied by mr . webb ; and there is an awesome sadness at the film ' s conclusion , as we see a man and his era pass into history .
6 / 10 i haven ' t watched this film in a really long time , and i remember very little . what i do remember , however , was he interesting family dynamic , the pretty good performances , and the tragic ending .
the drawing of the galaxy in the beach house is m - 51 , the whirlpool galaxy .
the 2003 version with steve martin and bonnie hunt is not actually a remake , and has only the title and size of the family in common with this earlier movie which was inspired by the real gilbreth family .
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gangster and blitz both played gunner in the first film , but when the second one came around , gangster retired . blitz and another dog stepped in to play the role in the sequel . schmidt also shared that both he and martin brought their dogs to set , and , miraculously , all the canines got along .
. while the bakers are watching tom ' s interview by fox sports , he looks into the camera and says ,
go to bed , kids !
kate turns the tv off and sends the kids to bed .
the shadow of the boom mic is visible in the dining room at the nantucket summer home scene .
major injury underreaction : dylan gets a injured by a grown man falling on him . it was still his best birthday ever .
first - rate performances by clifton webb and myrna loy as father and mother shine like jewels in the midst of leon shamroy ' s rich colour photography .
the way the gilbreths ' theories of scientific management and time saving sometimes worked and sometimes didn ' t when applied toward large scale childrearing lend cheaper by the dozen much of its charm . pet tactics of frank sr . ' s such as calling a
family council
to discuss important decisions , playing french language records while the kids brushed their teeth , or painting morse code on the walls of their vacation home are treated with an adult ' s fond but unsentimental eye : sometimes a hassle , sometimes inspired examples of their parents ' professional work , sometimes funny in their unintended aftereffects , and sometimes undeniably useful in raising and training a household of so many kids .
while the crew would
turn around the universe
— a . k . a . switch the cameras and lights to the other side of the frame — the baker patriarch would go to his trailer and play the banjo on the steps . though it was just for his own amusement , the kids eventually gathered around him to listen . schmidt said that martin loved to see how much the kids were enthralled by the banjo .
mark does this by running away after beans dies , saying no one cares about him and it ' s not until the evening of the same day that anyone notices he has gone .
an orphaned girl is taken in by a snobbish family at the insistence of their rich , crotchety uncle , even as her devoted aviator godfather fights for custody .
rule of pool : invoked by the kids as the first part of the plan to get rid of hank when he first arrives , resulting him in being tripped with a garden hose and landing in a paddling pool .
we love the idea of a dozen , are loath to give it up , though i ' m still not sure why . maybe it ' s the idea that such a very large number of kids seems mutinous , always on the edge of taking over , especially in numbers that can be counted like troops . or it ' s the symmetry , or the postwar abundance it spoke to . maybe it ' s the excess so many children embody : so many personalities , all those daily needs , and - - in the end - - so much warmth . many people love these books as kind of a surrogate family . maybe they give us a chance to gawk at that many genetic throws of the dice , test our own ideas about nature and nurture - - although cheaper by the dozen is hilariously sanguine about the forced show - pony quality of living in such a family . which is why i will always find their decision to take the 12 idea as big as they did odd . the crack in the center of the conceit will always throw the book off true just a bit , making some hypnotized child reader wonder in the back of his brain what adults aren ' t telling him .
in as i remember lillian gilbreth wrote that after mary ' s death , frank
never could answer the question ' how many children have you ? ' without stopping to calculate ,
which seems to sum up the enduring mystery about mary ; not her existence , but how different versions of the truth are allowed , even encouraged , to live alongside each other , even within cheaper by the dozen . you ' d think they would have been piercingly aware that there were 11 , not 12 , but this certainly matches what seems now to be the case . mary ' s death was both a horrible blow and a uniquely papered - over one - - for public consumption , in the context of her parents ' work , and within the family .
hey , i liked
cheaper by the dozen .
these actors are skilled at being nice . it ' s just that the movie settles when it ought to push . consider the bonnie hunt character . here she ' s reasonable , exasperated , and loves that lunk of a husband . but compare her work here with what she did in
stolen summer
( you remember , that 2002
project greenlight
movie i recommended , but you ignored my review and went to see
sorority boys
instead ) . in that one she was the mother of a large irish catholic family in chicago , where she had edge and sass and was not afraid to smack a potty - mouth up alongside the head .
webb , who had begun his career as a ballroom dancer and became a star of the broadway musical stage in the 1910s and 1920s , had also become a hollywood star by the mid - 1940s . in 1948 , he created the character of the comically supercilious babysitter mr . belvedere in
i have just seen this film for the first time and was charmed by the slightly drifting plot , the beautiful sets , and first - class acting from clifton webb and myrna loy . only the typically 50 ' s freckly - faced children grated somewhat ( just a personal dislike ! ! ) . but such a contrast between this gentle humour and the ' in - your - face ' style of the steve martin remake , which is admittedly good in its way , but with its modern setting cannot hope to characterise the situation of the real family . there ' s an interesting parallel between this father and christopher plummer ' s character in the sound of music . cp portrays a man who finds it difficult to express emotion , and regiments his children to avoid dealing with their individual needs . clifton webb ' s character is very loving in his own way , there is real concern that the children be equipped for the adult world , and his relationship with his wife shows a delightful tenderness . i thoroughly recommend this as a family film , if you ' re not too jaded by modern crassness to appreciate it !
but the gilbreths , intentionally or not , planted just enough clues for generations of readers to be forever curious about mary , even if that ' s the last thing they wanted . in the preface to the most recent harperperennial paperback edition of cheaper by the dozen , carey ruefully describes the effects of curiosity , a trait vigorously encouraged in the gilbreth family , which led to the book , and thus to a lifetime of endless questions from readers .
what a range of queries , personal and professional , now confront me . here are examples of a few : ' what happened to your sister mary ? after a while , you and your brother forgot to mention her . why ? did she die , maybe ? if she did die , then i want to hear how , please . '
she doesn ' t provide any answers , though , leaving mary the missing puzzle piece for which kids will always be scrambling .
poor ashton kutcher ' s character had his underwear soaked in meat and was attacked by dogs , but the kids didn ' t know the actor was playing hank until the day of shooting . schmidt was thrilled to see kutcher , since they had just worked on the butterfly effect together .
this movie is an excellent slice of life back in the day . the father and the mother were both pioneers in motion studies and took on the challenge of raising a dozen children according to their precepts of high educational and moral standards and this movie concerns the various humorous situations that occur throughout the years including the woman who was told that the mother would be a good
family planning representative ,
democratic family meetings , the father ' s insistence that the girls wear old fashioned bathing costumes at the beach , the father ' s stand against make up and new - style undergarments . sadly , the father suffered a fatal heart attack while traveling and we get to see the family pull together to enable the mother to carry on with the family business .
as mark is leaving for school at the start and tells kate he doesn ' t feel like he fits in the baker family , kate tells him he does fit and hugs him , then seconds later gets distracted by nigel and kyle wrestling on the lawn .
very charming , low - key film . it wasn ' t really long enough to get to know and differentiate between the necessarily huge cast , but i liked them all well enough that i found myself wishing it was a tv show that could develop all the characters at leisure . kind of felt like a tv show in the lackadaisical pace and lack of any strong conflict . was thinking about what a pleasant slice - of - life film it was with less than 10 minutes to go , when it suddenly veers into tragedy . kind of wish they ' d just stopped it before that since it didn ' t fit the tone up to that point and they didn ' t give adequate time to deal with the trauma .
the staircase / entrance way with the green wall paper and double doors under the landing to the left is the same staircase / entrance way used in the tv series dark shadows . the green wall paper is not there in dark shadows , but it ' s the exact same set .
tom and kate baker ' s five girls and seven boys add up to a family rich in fun , laughter - and barely - controlled chaos ! but when tom lands an exciting new job , and kate goes on tour to promote her new best - selling book , the dozen siblings revolt , turning the clan upside - down .
exiled to the couch : implied . before mark is revealed by kate to have run away , kate tells tom
feel free to sleep on the couch
. tom replies
you read my mind
, implying he was going to anyway .
big families headed by loving , but strict parents can be successful . at the same time , when kids assert their independence reasonably , parents must learn to be flexible . in times of crisis , families should stick together .
another factor in the decision not to talk about mary appears to be the blow that her death was to her father ' s sense that the vagaries of the world were manageable , even conquerable , through the principles of industrial engineering . in the 1949 biography frank and lillian gilbreth : partners for life , edna yost claimed that frank ' s
was not the normal reaction of a man to death , for this death was his first forced admission of failure in a project to which he had given his utmost .
frank , wrote lillian gilbreth in as i remember ,
insisted on trying his techniques , but it was no use . . . . for the first time in his life [ he ] faced a situation which he could not master .
dave ferguson , an engineer who runs the gilbreth network web site , a clearinghouse for information on frank and lillian ' s work that ' s not formally connected with the family but is run with their approval , says ,
you have to understand that the gilbreths - - particularly frank - - did not accept death as a natural course of things .
( a constant theme in cheaper by the dozen is that illness was considered a weakness . )
the song
sweet lelani
that tom black is strumming with his ukulele on the beach was actually written by harry owens for his daughter in 1934 , many years after the time that this movie is set . it also won an academy award for best song in 1937 when it appeared in the movie , waikiki wedding ( 1937 ) .
judge william hooks cited the defendant’s “remorse” for the crime , but the victim’s loved ones say that claim rings false .
a little girl named star lives with a lighthouse keeper who rescued her when her parents drowned . a truant officer decides she should go to boarding school but she ' s rescued by relatives .
despair event horizon : after the segment with oprah is ruined , kate and tom have all but stopped talking , the children are all at each other ' s throats and mark ' s beloved frog suddenly dies . and then mark runs away , fed up with all the fighting and feeling neglected by his family .
also , you may be defending your brother by beating up his bullies , but that doesn ' t mean you won ' t get punished for it . namely , a trip to the principal ' s office and then being grounded .
on the shelf in the living room is a picture of the real life frank gilbreth in uniform as an army major during wwi . this is visible outside the makeshift operating room during the mass tonsillectomies .
by mike sula , kate schmidt , holly greenhagen , kathie bergquist , martha bayne , julia thiel , michael gebert , gary wiviott , david hammond , susannah j . felts and elizabeth m . tamny
the chandelier contractor after he falls off the ladder and sees the chandelier about to fall on top of him . again .
this is the way all movies should be and rarely are . top notch casting , great character development , a solid story , and a fantastic script prove that you don ' t need explosions , blood and guts violence , wall - to - wall profanity or t & a to make a great movie . the cast really makes this film fun . clifton webb takes the lead with his usual terrific acting as the head of the gilbreath household of the 1920 ' s . myrna loy ' s calm portrayal as mrs . gilbreath and jeanne crain ' s energetic eldest daughter needing to break the old - fashioned mold offset the father figure ' s old - fashioned attitudes wonderfully . the cast of children as well as the school chums round out the ensemble . botton line : this movie is well worth the time to watch and very much worth the money to own .
this movie is a good , clean , entertaining movie that all can enjoy . although it is 54 years old , it would be enjoyed by children and teenagers of today . it lets todays kids see how previous generations lived and acted during their daily lives . i just wish that today ' s generation still had some of the old family values . the dance scene at the school gym , is a must to see . plus , kids today would have a fit if they had to wear the clothing that was worn back then . the vacation scene showing bathing suits of the era has to be seen to be believed . i just wish the movie had been longer . by far , the original movie is a lot better than the newly released version with steve martin .
the point here , by the way , is not to meanly spotlight a family tragedy or make mary
not count
- - if the gilbreths found the inclusion of mary comforting rather than creepy , who am i to judge ? - - but rather to tackle some of the sadness one can feel as a reader at the constant rounding up to 12 , the lingering curiosity about the spectral 12th child . it scarcely seems possible that , as dave ferguson speculates ,
it would have been hard to notice one was missing .
while the bakers played apple schmear , football and baseball were the pastimes on set .
a highly episodic comedy with little in the way of a solid plot and certain segments which are dragged on beyond what is necessary , the film is nevertheless good overall , with some really amusing bits in the mix too . clifton webb is very good as the fuddy - duddy father of the gang , and he adds a few extra sparks to the material . based on true happenings , it surprisingly seems very fictitious , however that is not really a factor that subtracts much from it . i am yet to see the 2003 remake and i cannot say that i really want to - a modern updating of the material is only likely to ruin it . part of what makes it work is the sense of nostalgia that it has .
i enjoyed the movie . it is a little corny in places , but damned good , and it is able to show that a better world might exist . also , the gilbreth boy who seems to be about twelve years old looks like michael eisner , but that name is not in the credits . comments ? somewhere along the way , the pinhead pushers of rot have taken over our entertainment and made it ugly and political . it seems that in allowing more license that the subtleties of a good story are lost . good new movies seem to be less and less frequent . ten lines yet ? i noticed that one of the persons commenting thought the whole thing was awful . my guess is that the person is young and is from some big city where the values seen in the movie have been replaced by modern vulgarities , and in fact are made to seem nothing but things imagined by a writer .
the parents of 12 kids are shown as loving , reliable , and committed to their children ' s education and good behavior . the father ' s over - involvement is tempered by the mother ' s restraint and wisdom . set in 1921 gender roles are old - fashioned ; the father thinks he has the final word . however , it becomes apparent that mrs . gilbreth is a highly educated woman who will later find great success in the business world . no ethnic diversity .
until her water breaks in the middle of the final event and she finally has to admit she needs to go to the hospital .
too bad we get 88 mins of the former and only 2 mins of the latter .
tom at the beginning during breakfast when he sees beans in the lamp above the table , with mark reaching towards it with his net .
schmidt , who reunited with stoner earlier this year , said he sees his movie sister often and that they ' ve collaborated on projects . he also sees hilary duff , who played lorraine baker , pretty regularly . ( his and duff ' s moms actually have a talent agency together . ) the other nine kids from the film live in different parts of the country , so he ' s not able to hang out with them as often as he ' d like . at least there ' s facebook !
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filmmakers follow the spanish chef albert adrià as he works to open the restaurant enigma in barcelona .
chemistry between the stars , steve coogan and paul rudd , aids the poignant and pithy script , which is based on the director’s own experiences .
the beloved classic harbors a mystery , but only the most attentive readers ever seem to notice .
this light comedy is based on the real - life story of the gilbreth family , whose scientist father runs the house and twelve children on a firm but regimental scale . clifton webb is dad and myrna loy is mum , and they make a convincing couple , and the switch from the comic to the tragic is deftly handled , setting the scene for the sequel belles on their toes .
basically the story of a man forced to finally see the injustice around him . riley’s movie is designed to do the same thing to you . …
loy agreed with crain ' s description of webb , an inveterate scene stealer , who used stage tricks like moving around and forcing her to move off her marks . after cinematographer leon shamroy blew up at loy for ruining the shot , a chastened webb behaved , although he never apologized . loy shrugged it off , and they remained friends , but according to loy , when webb watched her do an emotional scene he was not in , he accused her of trying to steal the film from him .
fatal flaw : pride is tom ' s throughout the film . he moves the family to their new home simply so he can pursue his dream job and look good in front of shake . he also tells kate he can handle looking after the kids by himself when she goes to new york . cue an oh crap from him when she tells him she ' s gone for at least two weeks , and he has to ask nora for help , which means she has to give up time from her new job . understandably , kate is quite angry with tom when she comes home . and all of this ends up leading to mark running away . when tom catches up to him , mark tells tom he didn ' t keep his promise of them becoming a happier and stronger family .
clay spencer is a hard - working man who loves his wife and large family . he is respected by his neighbors and always ready to give them a helping hand . although not a churchgoer , he even . . . see full summary »
“this is congo” aims to deliver a portrait of the democratic republic of congo from the ground up .
in name only : the only similarity it has with the book is that there are twelve kids .
man hug : tom and shake the first time they ' re onscreen together , at the start of the scene where shake pitches his offer to tom .
demoted to extra : mark . he was the main character , aside from the parents , in the first movie , but is barely in this one .
before kate calls tom after finding out what has happened while she has been in new york , the scoreboard shows the stallions lost against a team called the pythons , when the situation at home seems to be at its nadir . at the end , when tom gives up his job , the same scoreboard is seen again and this time , the stallions have won against a team called the ridgebacks , and shortly after that comes a big family hug on the field .
early on , when kate hugs mark but then gets distracted by nigel and kyle wrestling , she looks around for him and sees him cycling away . mark later snaps and runs away from home when it looks to him like no one cares about him .
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the mother is a degreed psychologist ( as referred to in the movie ) . the gold necklace she wears is a phi beta kappa key ( honors society )
all the actors who played the kids are spread out , but they ' re still connected on facebook .
the camera crew setting up for a taping of the family on the oprah winfrey show when the family finally collapses into a full blown fight right in front of them . to add to their disbelief , the segment was to be called
one big happy family
.
many people at dylan ' s party when the snake the baker kids got for him escapes from its box .
the animosity between illinois ' s largest city and its smaller towns is almost as old as the state itself .
then things get somewhat complicated .
we didn ' t need anything to remind us of our deceased little sister ,
carey continued , the point being , i guess , that the idea of a dozen wouldn ' t hurt anyone ' s feelings because they were already too aware of her absence .
our brothers and sisters over the years agreed with frank and me that mary ' s loss should not be stressed in our hoped - for light - hearted first book . we have no regrets about this .
the family , in particular carey and her brother frank , basically chose to hide her in plain sight .
the movie is lighthearted fun , providing little character bits for all of the family members , from young forrest landis , whose life centers on his pet frog , all the way up to older sister hilary duff , whose romantic adventures involve the usual pg - rated heartbreak . the neighbors complain that they ' re living next door to animal house , the alums complain that the small - time coach is not ready for big - time football , the kids complain that they miss home - - and of course only evil , stupid , reactionary , ambitious , greedy dad is standing in the way of a return to midland , a town so friendly they don ' t say
attention , shoppers !
at wal - mart but call you by first name ( only kidding ) .
never my fault : the kids consistently blame their father for their unhappiness and rarely fess up to the chaos they have created at the expense of each other and their parents . to be fair to them , the cause of some of their unhappiness is tom ' s fault , though much of the chaos is squarely down to the kids .