Francesco/who-killed-jfk huggingface dataset:
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-9-## COS INFORMS DCI SCHLESINGER OF ASSASSINATION PLANCOS said that in response to Schlesinger's request for reports on "questionable activities" within the Agency, COS met with him. COS said that he informed Schlesinger verbally that he had received instructions to try to assassinate Lumumba. COS said that he did not mention a poison virus to Schlesinger. COS said that Schlesinger did not make a response to this information. COS was unaware of any follow-up that was taken due to his briefing of Schlesinger.## OTHERS KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE ASSASSINATION PLANCOS said that he assumed that TWEEDY, BISSELL, and DULLES were witting of the assassination plan. COS said that he did have occasion to see ALLEN DULLES from time to time, but he does not remember discussing assassination in any form with DULLES.COS said, "I might have mentioned the assassination plan to COLBY when he became Director." However, COS does not have any specific recollection of a conversation with COLBY.COS does not think he informed RICHARD HELMS of the assassination plan.COS said that he was never interviewed by the INSPECTOR GENERAL in 1967 in the preparation of the IG Report on Assassinations.COS said that he never discussed the assassination plan with ARNOLD SILVER.## PROJECT ZRRIFLE AND AGENT QJWINCOS said he never discussed the assassination plan with William Harvey (the Director of Project ZRRIFLE). COS said he never discussed assassination capabilities or assets with Harvey.
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-10-COS did not recall agent QJWIN. He did recall that O'Donnellmay have brought an asset into the Congo to help him. He said,however, that based on our representation that QJWIN was in theCongo in the fall of 1960, he must have known of QJWIN's activities.WIROGUECOS does not remember the true name of agent WIROGUE nor whyor how he came to the Congo. When his recollection was refreshedby seeing cable traffic, COS said that WIROGUE was a difficult manto handle. For a short time, WIROGUE became a major in the CongoleseArmy. COS said that he had wanted ROGUE to pull together a sur-veillance team. COS did not recall discussing WIROGUE with O'Donnell.COS's only specific recollection is of being in WIROGUE'sapartment and discussing an assassination squad. COS does notthink that he mentioned the use of QJWIN in connection with this"execution squad." COS said that it was conceivable that he hadapproached WIROGUE with the idea of using him against Lumumba.But COS remembers he came to mistrust WIROGUE and felt that WIROGUEdid not know what he was doing. COS also said it was unlikelythat he would have sent the cable about WIROGUE's approach toQJWIN in ordinary CIA channels as he did if he thought this relatedto the actual assassination mission. Instead, it was merelyevidence that WIROGUE was out of control.MOVING LUMUMBA TO KATANGACOS recalled that troops in Thysville mutinied while Lumumbawas being held there. COS was in contact with various Congolese
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-11-officials and discovered that Casavubu and Mobutu had decided tofly to Thysville to put down the munity. COS attempted to con-vince them not to go together. They did succeed in putting downthe mutiny.COS did not learn that Lumumba was to be moved to Katangauntil after it happened. COS said his discussions with Mobutuabout Mobutu's intentions for Lumumba left COS with the impressionthat Lumumba might be executed.COS said that Jack Hasey was the Acting Base Chief inElizabethville, and was succeeded by David Whipple, who becameBase Chief in Katanga. COS also said that Ambassador Clare H.Timberlake worked closely with COS, but they never discussed withhim the general question of assassination.TESTIMONY UNDER ALIASAt the outset of the interview, the Committee staff agreedto honor COS's request to testify under alias. COS, who is stillin private enterprise in Zaire, said he would be in personaldanger there if he were linked to this story. He said, "Theymight make me take the big high jump. I've been on the 'zap list'before."
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AFFIDAVITUNITED STATES OF AMERICADISTRICT OF COLUMBIA SS:I, C. Douglas Dillon, being first duly sworn, do upon oath depose and state:From June 1959 until early January 1961, I served as Under Secretary of State. During approximately 35-40 percent of that time, I served as Acting Secretary of State because of Secretary Herter's absence from Washington.Secretary Herter, who preceded me as Under Secretary of State, had served as the State Department representative on the 54/12 Committee, a predecessor of the present Forty Committee. When I became Under Secretary, the President asked me to retain my earlier responsibilities for foreign economic policy. Accordingly, the Number 3 position in the Department of State was designated as Under Secretary for Political Affairs. Robert Murphy was appointed to this position and took over the State Department's responsibilities on the 54/12 Committee.Because of the frequency of my service as Acting Secretary of State, I was kept regularly informed of important 54/12 Committee decisions. On occasion I met with the 54/12 Committee and participated in its deliberations..During this entire period I have no recollection of any discussions or decisions looking toward the assassination of either Generalissimo Trujillo or Prime Minister Castro.On one occasion in late July or early August of 1960, shortly after Patrice Lumumba's visit to Washington, I attended a meeting in the Pentagon at which the overall Congo problem was discussed. During the discussion, which covered a great variety of matters, my recollection is that a question regarding the possibility of an assassination attempt against Lumumba was briefly raised. The CIA representative indicated that the Agency did not undertake this sort of operation. This ended consideration of this subject. With this one exception I never heard any discussion of assassination attempts against anyone.Dated this 21 day of May, 1975.C. Douglas DillonSubscribed and sworn to before me this day of May 1975,Notary PublicDistrict of Columbia
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MEMORANDUMTO:William G. MillerFritz SchwarzCurt SmothersBill BaderBurt WidesRhett DawsonFROM:Frederick BaronRE:Douglas Dillon InterviewDATE:August 28, 1975I spoke today by phone with Douglas Dillon, who was on vacation in Maine, concerning a paragraph in an affidavit he supplied to the Rockefeller Commission on May 21, 1975. The paragraph records Dillon's recollection that"On one occasion in late July or early August of 1960, shortly after Patrice Lumumba's visit to Washington, I attended a meeting in the Pentagon at which the overall Congo problem was discussed. During the discussion, which covered a great variety of matters, my recollection is that a question regarding the possibility of an assassination attempt against Lumumba was briefly raised. The CIA representative indicated that the Agency did not undertake this sort of operation. This ended consideration of this subject. With this one exception I never heard any discussion of assassination attempts against anyone."I explored the subject of this meeting generally with Mr. Dillon on the phone and set an appointment for him to review documents and testify on Tuesday, September 2, at 3:00 p.m. in Room G 308.On the phone Dillon gave the following background information on the meeting at the Pentagon:1.  This was not a small meeting; eight or ten people attended.He did not think it was a meeting of a small body. He said it was not a Special Group meeting or NSC meeting. But he was clear that
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as a high-level meeting due to the participants.2. He believes the participants included the Secretary of   ense because Dillon's recollection is firm on the fact that   meeting took place in the office of the Secretary of Defense.   ion did not remember whether Allen Dulles attended the meeting,   he said "top CIA people were present". Dillon said Richard   sell was probably present. Dillon does not recall a man named   ert Johnson, nor does he recall whether such a man was present   the meeting, but he said that we might be able to refresh his   ollection by giving him more background on Robert Johnson.   did not mention on the phone the nature of Robert Johnson's   imony before the Committee; I simply asked if Johnson was   sent at the meeting.)3. The mention of the subject of assassinating Lumumba was   in the general context, Dillon said, of Lumumba's visit to   United States, which had "convinced us that Lumumba was   hopathic, not in a well-balanced mental state. After his   t we wondered whether there was any way of changing the scenery   the Congo." Dillon said the subject was raised in the general   ext of "eliminating Lumumba", but the discussion did not   cceed as far as mentioning means to be used.4. Dillon said that the response of the "CIA representative"   "not necessarily a moral objection to assassination but was   in the sense of indicating that the CIA did not have that   of capacity".Dillon did not recall who the CIA representative was whothe remark.
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Ah AvenueNew York, N.Y. 100221X-C-2-g-w(Oll)1975 SEP 26 ГИSELECT COMMITTEEINTELLIGENCE ACTIVISeptember 23, 1975.Dear Mr. Dawson:I enclose herewith Mr. Dillon's signed and notarized affidavit.Sincerely yours,Dorothy de BorchgraveDorothy de BorchgraveMr. Rhett DawsonSenate Select CommitteeRoom G-308New Senate Office BuildingWashington, D. C. 20510![handwritten text 1]![handwritten text 2]![handwritten text 3]![handwritten text 4]
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IX-C-2-g-W(DILLON)State of New YorkCounty of Necer fock*This is cudexed already into this file; the file cannst be foundSS:C. Douglas Dillon, being duly sworn, deposes and says:I have read the attached statement consisting of two pages prepared by Rhett Dawson, Counsel to the Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities, based upon my conversation with him on September 15, 1975, and I hereby adopt and ratify this statement which is true and correct to my direct knowledge.C. Douglas DillonSworn to before me this 13day of September, 1975.CECILIA A. VERDONNotary Public, State of New YorkNo. 31-4095135Qualified in New York CountyCommission Expires March 30, 1977Notary PublicNW 50955 DocId:32423566 Page 19
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STATEMENTS BY C. DOUGLAS DILLONTO RHETT DAWSON ON SEPTEMBER 15, 1975I, C. Douglas Dillon, do wish to make the following statement.1. On September 15, 1975 I was shown by Rhett Dawson, Counsel, Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities, what he represented to me to be documents of the National Security Council of the below dates:Exhibit 1. Minutes of the 451st Meetingof theNational Security Councilheld in the Cabinet Room of The White Houseon Friday, July 5, 1960, 9:00-11:00 a.m.(Approved by the President on July 19, 1960).Exhibit 2. Memorandum of Discussion at the 452nd Meetingof the National Security Council,Thursday, July 21, 1960.Exhibit 3. Memorandum of Discussion at the 456th Meetingof the National Security Council,Thursday, August 18, 1960Exhibit 4. Minutes of the 456th Meetingof theNational Security Councilheld in the Cabinet Room of The White Houseon Thursday, August 18, 1960, 9:00-11:00 a.m.(Approved by the President on August 24, 1960)Exhibit 5. Minutes of the 458th Meetingof theNational Security Councilheld in the Cabinet Room of The White Houseon Wednesday, September 7, 1960, 2:30-4:30 p.m.(Approved by the President on September 13, 1960Exhibit 6. Memorandum of Discussion at the 460th Meetingof the National Security Council,Wednesday, September 21, 1960
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-2-2. The documents shown to me do not in any way refresh my recollection beyond the statements contained therein as to events related to the Congo in the summer and early fall of 1960. I still do not have an independent recollection of any specific conversation regarding the assassination of Patrice Lumumba other than that described in my affidavit to the Rockefeller Commission and in my testimony before the Select Committee on September 2.3. I was informed by Mr. Dawson that Mr. Robert Johnson has testified that he recollected a statement by President Eisenhower at an NSC meeting which he construed as being an order for the assassination of Lumumba. After seeing the documents listed above I am of the opinion that it is most likely that the NSC meeting of August 18, 1960 is the meeting referred to by Mr. Johnson. Although the record shows that I was present at that meeting I have no personal recollection of any such statement or order by the President.4. I note that as to the Memorandum of Discussion at the 456th Meeting of the National Security Council, Thursday, August 18, 1960 (reference C, above) a page or pages immediately before the second page of the exhibit seem to be missing.5. It is my understanding that the six exhibits noted above, will be appended to this affidavit for filing by the Select Committee.Prepared by me on this 23rd day of September, 1975.![signature]Rhett Dawson,CounselSenate Select Committee to StudyGovernment Operations With Respect toIntelligence Activities
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# MEMORANDUMTo: The FilesFrom: Frederick D. BaronDate: September 5, 1975Re: Interview with James Douglas on Lumumba Assassination Case.INVENTORIED:ON 3/31/77BY BCI spoke by phone today with James Douglas, who was Deputy Secretary of Defense in the Eisenhower Administration from early December 1959 until January 21, 1961.Mr. Douglas served under DOD Secretary Thomas Gates.I interviewed Mr. Douglas because of a reference to him in Douglas Dillon's testimony (Dillon, p.19). Dillon said that in a phone conversation with Gates about the Pentagon meeting (at which Dillon said someone raised the question of assassinating Lumumba) Gates named James Douglas as a person likely to have attended such a meeting.## Never Heard Suggestion of AssassinationMr. Douglas said that during his tenure in office, he never heard a suggestion of the assassination of Lumumba raised in his presence. "I never heard speculation that it was even on anyone's mind," he said.## Pentagon MeetingMr. Douglas does not recall a meeting at the Pentagon in the summer of 1960 (as recounted by Douglas Dillon) where the question of assassinating Lumumba was raised. Mr. Douglas says that it was possible that he attended such a meeting, but he has no recollection of it.## Special Group MeetingsMr. Douglas attended Special Group meetings with some regularity. Frequently, however, these meetings were attended by Mr. Irwin, who was Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs during that period. Douglas said that Irwin was "more actively in contact with the State Department and the CIA during this time." (Irwin is now practicing law in New York.)Mr. Douglas said that the question of assassination of Lumumba was not raised in his presence at a Special Group meeting.
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Memo to FilesSeptember 5, 1975Page TwoI read to him a quote from the Special Gropp minutes of September 8, 1960. Douglas was in attendance at this meeting. Mr. Gordon Gray was quoted as saying that he hoped that CIA people were "fully aware of the top-level feeling in Washington that vigorous action would not be amiss." Douglas had no independent recollection of this remark or the discussion to which it related.Note:I indicated to Mr. Douglas that it probably would not be necessary to call him to testify on the Lumumba matter. Mr. Douglas' phone numbers are: (617) 693-1353 (until September 29) and (312) 726-2452 (office in Chicago).cc: Rhett DawsonBurt WidesFritz SchwarzCurt SmothersFDB/dsm
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MEMORANDUMTo: The FilesFrom: Frederick D. BaronDate: September 5, 1975Re: Interview with James Douglas on Lumumba Assassination Case.INVENTORIED:ON 3/31/77BY BCI spoke by phone today with James Douglas, who was Deputy Secretary of Defense in the Eisenhower Administration from early December 1959 until January 21, 1961.Mr. Douglas served under DOD Secretary Thomas Gates.I interviewed Mr. Douglas because of a reference to him in Douglas Dillon's testimony (Dillon, p.19). Dillon said that in a phone conversation with Gates about the Pentagon meeting (at which Dillon said someone raised the question of assassinating Lumumba) Gates named James Douglas as a person likely to have attended such a meeting.## Never Heard Suggestion of AssassinationMr. Douglas said that during his tenure in office, he never heard a suggestion of the assassination of Lumumba raised in his presence. "I never heard speculation that it was even on anyone's mind," he said.## Pentagon MeetingMr. Douglas does not recall a meeting at the Pentagon in the summer of 1960 (as recounted by Douglas Dillon) where the question of assassinating Lumumba was raised. Mr. Douglas says that it was possible that he attended such a meeting, but he has no recollection of it.## Special Group MeetingsMr. Douglas attended Special Group meetings with some regularity. Frequently, however, these meetings were attended by Mr. Irwin, who was Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs during that period. Douglas said that Irwin was "more actively in contact with the State Department and the CIA during this time." (Irwin is now practicing law in New York.)Mr. Douglas said that the question of assassination of Lumumba was not raised in his presence at a Special Group meeting.
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Memo to FilesSeptember 5, 1975Page TwoI read to him a quote from the Special Gropp minutes of September 8, 1960. Douglas was in attendance at this meeting. Mr. Gordon Gray was quoted as saying that he hoped that CIA people were "fully aware of the top-level feeling in Washington that vigorous action would not be amiss." Douglas had no independent recollection of this remark or the discussion to which it related.Note:I indicated to Mr. Douglas that it probably would not be necessary to call him to testify on the Lumumba matter. Mr. Douglas' phone numbers are: (617) 693-1353 (until September 29) and (312) 726-2452 (office in Chicago).cc: Rhett DawsonBurt WidesFritz SchwarzCurt SmothersFDB/dsm
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FRANK CHURCH, IDAHO, CHAIRMANJOHN G. TOWER, TEXAS, VICE CHAIRMANPHILIP A. HART, MICH. HOWARD H. BAKER, JR N.WALTER MONDALE, MINN. BARRY GOLDWATER, ARWALTER D. HUDDLESTON, KY. CHARLES MC C. MATHIAS, JR., MD.ROBERT MORGAN, N.C. RICHARD S. SCHWEIKER, PA.GARY HART, COLO.WILLIAM G. MILLER, STAFF DIRECTORFREDERICK A. O. SCHWARZ, JR., CHIEF COUNSELCURTIS R. SMOTHERS, MINORITY COUNSELIX-C-2-g-W(IRWIN)# United States SenateSELECT COMMITTEE TOSTUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS WITHRESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES(PURSUANT TO S. RES. 21, 94TH CONGRESS)WASHINGTON, D.C. 2051011 October 1975INVENTORIED:ON 3/31/77BY BCMr. John N. Irwin IIPatterson, Belknap and Webb30 Rockefeller PlazaNew York, New York 10020Dear Mr. Irwin:Thank you for sending the rewritten version of your affidavit. All of the changes you have made are perfectly satisfactory and accurately reflect my understanding of the statements you made on September 22.I am enclosing the statement with my signature so that you may proceed to sign and swear to it.Due to the sensitivity of the subject matter, it would be appreciated if you will not retain a copy of the affidavit. A copy will remain on file at the Committee and accessible to you at any time.I look forward to receiving the sworn statement. Once again many thanks for your cooperation and careful attention to this matter.Sincerely,Frederick D. BaronSpecial Assistant to theChief CounselNW 50955 DocId: 32423566 Page 26
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# STATEMENTS OF JOHN N. IRWIN IITO FREDERICK D. BARON ON SEPTEMBER 22, 1975Throughout 1960 and until the end of the Eisenhower Administration, I served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs. My current business address is c/o Patterson, Balknap & Webb, 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, N.Y. 10020.1. On September 22, 1975 in my office I reviewed with Mr. Baron the following documents in an attempt to refresh my recollection on discussions that took place at certain governmental meetings: the Memorandum for the Record of the Special Group meetings of June 30, 1960 and August 25, 1960; the Memorandum for the Record of the National Security Meetings of July 21, 1960, August 18, 1960, and September 21, 1960; and the Record of Action of the NSC Meetings of July 15, 1960 and September 7, 1960. These documents indicate that I attended all of these meetings except the NSC meeting of August 18, 1960, which Mr. Hadyn Williams of ISA attended. I also reviewed the affidavit of C. Douglas Dillon dated May 21, 1975 which refers, *inter alia*, to a meeting at the Pentagon in the summer of 1960.2. Even after attempting to refresh my recollection by reviewing the above-mentioned documents, I still have no direct recollection of the discussions which they memorialize.
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2I do not recall any discussion of any assassination plan connected to the United States Government during the entire course of my government service. I do not recall ever hearing of the CIA adopting any assassination plan, nor do I recall ever hearing the President make a statement that could be construed as an order for the assassination of Patrice Lumumba.3. In answer to a question from Mr. Baron I said that in my opinion the language used in the Memorandum for the Record of the Special Group Meeting of August 25, 1960 is sufficiently broad so it could be interpreted to cover a discussion of assassination:It was finally agreed that planning for the Congo would not necessarily rule out "consideration" of any particular kind of activity which might contribute to getting rid of Lumumba.However, I do not remember any such discussion, nor do I have any direct recollection of the substance of that meeting.4. In answer to a question from Mr. Baron I said that in my opinion the language used in the Memorandum for the Record of the NSC Meeting of September 21, 1960 is sufficiently broad so it could be interpreted to cover a discussion of assassination:
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3Mobutu appeared to be the effective power in the Congo for the moment but Lumumba was not yet disposed of and remained a grave danger as long as he was not disposed of.However, I do not remember any such discussion, nor do I have any direct recollection of the substance of that meeting.5. Although Hadyn Williams probably reported to me on the substance of the NSC Meeting of August 18, 1960, I do not have any recollection of such a report, nor do I have any other recollection of learning by another source of any of the substance of the discussion at that meeting.6. It is possible that I was present at the meeting at the Pentagon to which Mr. Dillon's affidavit refers. However, I do not remember if I were at this particular meeting; nor do I remember attending any meeting at the Pentagon where the question of assassinating Patrice Lumumba was raised.7. In answer to a question from Mr. Baron I said that in my opinion it would be improper for the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency to undertake an assassination operation without an express directive from the President.Prepared by me on this 9th day of October, 1975![signature of Frederick D. Baron]Frederick D. BaronSpecial Assistant to the Chief CounselSenate Select Committee to StudyGovernmental Operations with Respectto Intelligence Activities
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SEL COMFile:September 23, 1975Mr. John N. Irwin IIPatterson, Bellknap & Webb30 Rockefeller PlazaNew York, New York 10020Dear Mr. Irwin:Enclosed please find a copy of the statement I prepared as a result of our recent discussion.Please feel free to make any additions or corrections in the statement. It would be appreciated if you would mail a sworn copy of your statement to me as soon as possible.Thanks very much for your help in this matter.Sincerely,Frederick D. BaronSpecial Assistant to theChief CounselEnclosureFDB/dobec: RHETT DAWSONFritz SCHWARZNW 50955 DocId:32423566 Page 30