Francesco/who-killed-jfk huggingface dataset:
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TOP SECRET1.  Mr. Halley. HAVE traces, now, that indicates to me that whatever was done here was based on the material that was...2.  passively in the files.3.  Where did material that was in our files. We got material4.  that was in these files from agents exporting, we got it from5.  refugee debriefings, we got it from our, you know, from6.  sources in the Cuban community who were reporting on Cuban7.  groups. We got it on a monitoring of the Cuban press, and the8.  Spanish press in Miami, we got it from monitoring radio broad-9.  casts and so forth. so that it was this kind of a conglomerate10. of information.11. Now, let's take a name, you know, like Rodrigues. A12. name Like Rodriguez in the card file, there might be two13. names of Rodriguezes. You know, if you were looking for a14. specific Rodriguez, Carlos Rafael Rodriguez, you know, sometim15. like that, then you'd have to pin it down, in other words,16. age, what his membership was in the party and things like that.17. So that indicates to me that we found this material in the18. file.19. I no the source is, I don't know. We'd have to look in20. the crypt and find the true name, and maybe even then I con't21. tell you.22. Mr. Johnston. But that source is liable to be a Cuban23. exile in Miami, is that correct?24. Mr. Halley, well, not being able to read the thing.25. TOP SECRETNW#:55510 DocId: 32423435
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TOP SECRET1 don't even want to speculate on it.2 Mr. Johnston. Did you have sources in Alpha 66?3 Mr. Halley. Yes, at times there were sources in Alpha 64.4 Mr. Johnston. Did you have sources in SNFE?5 Mr. Halley. At times, yes.6 Mr. Johnston. Did you have sources, in the time period we are talking about, November '63 through the spring of 1964?7 Mr. Halley. Well, I would have to say the probability8 is high that we had some sort of a source in that group, but9 I'd have to go back, you know, and check the record, and it10 would have to be researched, but my recollection to that is y.11 we would have sources in that group one way or another.12 Mr. Johnston. Are you aware of a Cuban exile organiza-13 of anti-Castro organization called the Christian Democratic14 Movement, or MUC?15 Mr. Halley. Yes, I am.16 Mr. Johnston. Did you have sources in MOC?17 Mr. Halley. Yes, we did.18 Mr. Johnston. And in November of (75), do you recall19 who was the leadership of MUC?20 Mr. Halley. Off the top of my head, no, but you know21 there is a book, we put out a book at that time which was a22 front's work, of all of the anti-Castro groups that were23 located in Miami, the IRS people are still with me. We work24 privately. There were 250 some-odd exile groupings, and we25 TOP SECRETNW#:55510 DocId: 32423435
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TOP SECRET1 didn't have all 250 penetrated, if you really want to know the2 answer to that. Well have to get the book, look up the dates,3 and try to see who the leadership were.4 Mr. Johnston. Does that book contain the names of the5 leadership?6 Mr. Halley. Yes. In most of the cases it contains the7 names of the major leaders.8 Mr. Johnston. Did you have that book at approximately the9 timeperiod of November '63 through December '63?10 Mr. Halley. The book was put out and revised several11 times. I just have trouble coming into specific dates.12 Mr. Johnston. I appreciate that fact. I understand it.13 Mr. Halley. There is just a mass of information on these14 things now coming out, and the only way I know to answer your15 in a prudent manner is to say that there was such a group.16 steer you to the information. You know, we can look it up17 for you.18 Mr. Johnston. Did you know who Dr. Portell-Villa was.1920 Mr. Halley. Portell-Villa or Portillo-Villa?21 Mr. Johnston. Portillo-Villa.22 Mr. Halley. Portell-Villa, OK, I see.23 Mr. Johnston. as a source krypt of AMMI24 and I will show you to different other Pontification WAVE Cable.25 0455, 4/7/1963.TOP SECRET
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TOP SECRET(The Witness reads the document.)Mr. Malley. No, I don't. You know, the cryptonym AMKNOB rings a bell with me. I am familiar with the cryptonym. Specifically AMKNOB 1 is I can't tell you. Reading the contents of this message, you know, this is a message dated 4 December '63, I would say that we got a message in secret writing via the mail from some source in Cuba, and he is giving this information.Who he is, what reliability we placed on a particular source --Mr. Johnston. That's what I'm asking you.Mr. Halley. What access he had and so forth, I would've told you. As'n have to, you know, get the file. I would love to read it and see what the file says.Mr. Johnston. And in connection with the assassination, President Kennedy, when you get information like that, you viewed your responsibility as what?Mr. Halley. Essentially putting it to headquarters. I was the focal point for pulling together all kinds of dur.Mr. Johnston. And again the substance of this is a source in Cuba reporting to you on possibly seeing Oswald; possible Cuban insinuations.Mr. Halley. Put in the deduction I come to by reason of their message. I don't want you to hold me to this, and youTOP SECRETNW#:55510 DocId: 32423435
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TOP SECRETwill get the file and it says that this was an SW messageFrom a guy in Mexico or something. I'm just reading a messageand deductive analysis of what I know the case to have beenat the time.Mr. Johnston. Well, that's a correct statement of themessage, is that right?Mrs Hallay. Yes, I'd have to go on the basis that wececorded material accurately. Therefore, by the way thismessage is written, by analysis I am having to conclude thatit was a source inside Cuba.Mr. Johnston. Then I put be you in question in regardsprevinus testimony about tapping inress in China, rememberHero you were getting messages out of Cuba, you recallaction being taken through the WAVE Station to stop theMrs. Hallay. Now, with a message like this it is conce.You'd have to look back at the files and where there aresekliomel questions, you know, like we are these people,You go eat the reporting that you are rocuiviig.I don't start off the top of my headMr. Johnston. So you wish to go back to the files.Mr. Johnston. Have you dates to November 1963. We gotwith you for dates to November 1963. With me onyou have any recollection of either recording that ITOP SECRETNW#:55510DocId: 32423435
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TOP SECRET1 or of receiving that information?2 Mr. Halley. I would have to say because of the indicator3 on here, the communication system was very reliable, that4 this message was received, because that's what it shows, but I5 personally have no recollection of this massage.6 Mr. Johnston. Could WAVE have made a contribution to thit7 report?8 Mr. Halley, well, again, I have to go back in the f9 It says the above is from a KMULSER diplomst. I assume10 that that was from a Mexican diplomat. Tralia?11 then that would determine whether we could have made12 * contribution. There was a time when we in WAVE had as13 recruited agentis Dexican and Italann diplomats in Havana.14 That cryptonym doesn't ring any bells with me. Now you h.15 to go back and lock Stop, look in the file, and that woul16 tell you whether we were raming the joy or hot.17 HE. Johnston. Is that the only evaluation you coulé18 made?19 thess I'd say that's20 waly valakiti wa Chat these bus shero is one other21 It might de22 somet the monitoriications that we has25 TOP SECRET
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NW#:55510 DocId:32423435# TOP SECRET1 Mr. Halley or what was the message, how was it sent,2 what was the text of the message.3 Senator Schweiker. What was your relationship with a4 group called the Free Cuba Committee that I believe was organized5 through the Mullen Company here in Washington?6 Mr. Halley, Could you give me some additional information7 Was this Bethel, Paul Bethel, the Free Cuba Committee?8 Senator Schweiker. Well, again I believe Mrs. Luce9 was involved with this Committee as well, and there were some10 others.11 Who is Paul Bethel?12 Mr. Halley. Paul Bethel was an American who had been13 employed by I know VERY sure in one of these Cuban --14 Senator Schweiker. Well, I'm not sure. It might have15 been. I don't have all the names.16 Mr. Halley, well, the Free Cuba Committee, as such, with17 something to do with it, couldn't strike a republican.18 Senator Schweiker. Well, would they have any men there from21 local police or another agency of organization from various23 Mr. Halley I have to say the reason I kn
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TOP SECRETSenator Schweiker. And there were all kinds of CubanCommitteesMr. Halley. That's right, and therefore, unless there is a name that goes with it, I have trouble dredging it out.Senator Schweiker. All right.I means, did your work involve any working relationship to the Mullen Company in Washington?Did you use them in any relationship at all?Mr. Halley. No, my knowledge of the Mullen Company doesn't start until about 1972.Lint.Senator Schweiker. Okay, I'll let somebody else handleHow about the Fair Play for Cuba Committee? What about your program, what role of relationship forgetting overseas stuff?Did you have with them since they obviously had some foreign intelligence relationship?Mr. Halley. None. In other words we felt that that was an organization that really of interest to the Fair.senator schweiker intelligence of that for some time. Like the oneTOP SECRET
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TOP SECRETAmerican flight coming into the United States, and the refugees coming to identify agents on that, identify agents who might be trying to penetrate our paramilitary teams or one of our collection of operations.We also were looking at Cuban intelligence officers who were stationed overseas, in other words, could our debriefing of knowledgeable people result in bar identifying, let's say, the OGI guy in Mexico City of in Madrid? We could then mount an operation on the basis of that to recruit him, to maintain him in place as a source within the Cuban intelligence service. So it was that kind of comtarintelligence approde.You know, no the tead of the Cuban service, Barbare ja as the kit, you know peoplehim. we would look at that and see whether we could use it.Senator Schweiker. I have just a few saali onnsu then I'd like to ask you for some advice off the record, wow you just give as sure quidanco.On the record here, how about an organization calid CUBA, ComsOVALEVO, ... I believe the were an ar thu ting để ôch scretary aus.Mr. Barley. hudounSenator Sensoker, een the sor de ot Lotts was called co101141109, w that they wire, you now,TOP SECRETNW#:55510 DocId: 32423435
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TOP SECRETtied in to say the CIA.No, that doesn't ring any bells with me.Senator Schweiker. Then there is a Paul Holowell.Mr. Halley. He's a --Senator Schweiker. Florida banker. He was involved in paramilitary or some kind of operations.Mr. Halley. Well, there were two phases. Paul Halowell was involved in the Bay of Pigs operation. In cleaning up some claims that the families of one or two of the pilots had who crashed involved in the Bay of Pigs. And I would have known that through the file.Malowell later was in touch with us at the time when I was in this Miami station, and he provided, as I recall, he has real estate interests, banks, and he helped us create cover companies through which we bought or leased such things as dock space at marines for boats and items like that.Senator Schweiker. Okay.(b) You have anything else on the records?Mr. Halley. Just one other thing.How major a role did you have with lifetowell?Did any personal contacts did you have with him?Mr. Halley. My recollection would be that I probably only saw him once or twice, but you know, you know, you know, our major cover in those days was a corporate company. I was a vice president ofTOP SECRETNW#:55510DocId: 32423435
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TOP SECRET1 that company. As a result, I traveled extensively in the2 business social community. At that point we had one of the3 larger covert payrolle in South Miami, and I was a member os4 a number of clubs, and people like Helowell I would meet5 at pockeail parties s or din inners, you know, or the yacht club6 that I belonged to or whatever, but officially, in terms of7 business, sense, I only recall talking with helowell twice. I8 think.9 Senator Schweiker. Would he look anything: Jike that10 picture?11 (the witness looks at the sketch.)12 Mr. Halley. No. At that time he would have been much13 heavier.14 Mr. Je'nston. Did you ever discuss sly Kennedy assassi-15 nation with him?16 Mr... Halley. No, I woulkin't have. I wouldn't h17 about that. Ny recollection of the kind of things that18 have talked about with helowell would have been the formatel19 of such cover company, the purchase of is boat, the rental20 tech leased you know beton pieces of acreage for trajning,21 cause the bat's about what I roo22 ac the t23 I don't know. I guess I just have a little bit of24 recollection of conversations.25 with him. But you don't recall whether you talkedTOP SECRET
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NW#:55510DocId: 32423435TOP SECRET1 to McCone or Helms about a connection between the Kennedy2 assassination and the Cuban operation.3 Mr. Halley. Well, you know, some of those things make4 different kinds of impact on you. I mean, helowell was in this5 part of the county where we were located was an important6 figure, we had a bank not too far from where we were located.7 Many of our people did their banking with him, and so forth.8 And he's a name that sticks out.9 Mr. Johnston. I thought that Mr. Helms and Mr. McCone10 would also make an impression.11 Mr. Halley. Well, McCone. Yes, you know, I went to several12 meetings with McCone in Washington and other places, and I13 don't know this to be from Helms as a visit of the Director14 to a state you know, but you don't necessarily recall that15 Green Hotel paper it had lots of visits of stations16 that I've been in from time to time, I've been involved in17 Presidential visits and Vice Presidential visits, and you know18 I can tell you when the President come to vietnam or somewhereTOP SECRET
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TOP SECRETMr. Halley. I don't recall it.Mr. Johnston. Is it you don't recall such a discussion, having such a discussion, or you have a recollection and you recollection is there were no discussions.Mr. Halley. No, I don't recall such a discussion. That's what I've said several times. I assume that such discussions took place, but Frankly, I don't recall them.Senator Schwelker. All right, that's all we have. We appreciate your cooperation and your testimony. I do want to ask for some guidance off the record.(Whereupon, at 1:40 o'clock p.m., the interview in the above-entitled matter was concluded.)TOP SECRET
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157-10014-10067 2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992Date : 08/06/95Page : 1# JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM IDENTIFICATION FORM## AGENCY INFORMATIONAGENCY: SSCIARECORD NUMBER : 157-10014-10067RECORDS SERIES: HEARINGSAGENCY FILE NUMBER: 09-H-08## DOCUMENT INFORMATIONORIGINATOR: SSCIAFROM: TWEEDY, BRONSONTO :TITLE :DATE: 09/09/75PAGES: 76SUBJECTS: CONGOASSASSINATION, LUMUMBACIADOCUMENT TYPE: TRANSCRIPTCLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIEDRESTRICTIONS: 1ACURRENT STATUS: RELEASED WITH DELETIONSDATE OF LAST REVIEW: 09/25/98OPENING CRITERIA :COMMENTS:NW 50955 DocId: 32423455 Page 1 [R] - ITEM IS RESTRICTED
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# TOP SECRET ORIGINALVol 1 OF 3NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATIONUnauthorized Disclosure Subject to Criminal Sanctions# The United States SenateR1124# Report of Proceedings![Signature]# Hearing held beforeSenate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations With Respect to Intelligence ActivitiesTuesday, September 9, 1975Washington, D. C.(Stenotype Tape and Waste turned over to the Committee for destruction)WARD & PAUL410 FIRST STREET, S. E.WASHINGTON, D. C. 20003(202) 544-6000# TOP SECRET
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# TOP SECRETCONTENTSnashTESTIMONY OFBronson TweedyEXHIBITS| NUMBER               | PAGE || -------------------- | ---- || Tweedy Exhibit No. 1 | 44   || Tweedy Exhibit No. 2 | 47   || Tweedy Exhibit No. 3 | 49   || Tweedy Exhibit No. 4 | 50   || Tweedy Exhibit No. 5 | 56   || Tweedy Exhibit No. 6 | 62   || Tweedy Exhibit No.7  | 65   |(The above exhibits were retained by counsel.)# TOP SECRET
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TOP SECRETEXECUTIVE SESSIONTuesday, September 9, 1975United States Senate,Select Committee to Study GovernmentalOperations with respect toIntelligence Activities,Washington, D. C.The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 1:15 p.m.,in Room 443, Russell Office Building, Senator Walter F. Mondale presiding.Present: Senator Mondale (presiding).Also present: Rhett Dawson and Frederick Baron, Professional Staff Members.TOP SECRET
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## TOP SECRETSenator Mondale. Do you swear the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?Mr. Tweedy. I do.Mr.Baron. Mr. Tweedy, are you aware that you have the right to counsel here today?Mr. Tweedy. I am.Mr. Baron. And are you appearing voluntarily here today without counsel?Mr. Tweedy. I am.(At this point, the hearing was removed to Room 608, Carroll Arms Hotel.)Mr. Baron. Are you also aware that all of your Constitutional rights are intact before the Committee, including your Fifth Amendment rights?Mr. Tweedy. I am.Mr. Baron. Mr. Tweedy, are you aware that you have the right to cease answering questions at any time and consult with an attorney?Mr. Tweedy. Yes. I gather that was implicit in what you said in the Senator's office.Mr. Baron. It was.Now, that we are no longer in the Senator's presence I would like to make it clear to you that you are under no obligation to continue testifying, although the Committee## TOP SECRET
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# TOP SECRETPhone (Area 202) 344-40001 would obviously appreciate it if you would.Are you willing to do so?2 Mr. Tweedy. I have no intention of not cooperating.3 Mr. Baron. And you are willing to continue to testify to the truth as best you can?5 Mr. Tweedy. Indeed I will.6 Mr. Baron. Perhaps we should begin by putting on the record a bit of your background in Agency activities leading to the point at which you assumed the position as Chief of the African Division.10 TESTIMONY OF BRONSON TWEEDY12 Mr. Tweedy. I came aborad the Agency in the first of May, 1947 and after training was sent to Switzerland. I returned in 1950 and did a series of desk jobs in what was known as the Central European Division, I guess, and went through a number of different assignments at that time, until May of 1953 when I went out as Chief of Station to Vienna, Austria. I was there until the middle of 1956 and returned very briefly to the States, went to London as Deputy Chief of Station there. I took over as Chief of Station there in the middle of 1958 and was then replaced by Frank Wisner, in London early in October 1959, and I took over the African Division I should think somewhere around between the 15th and 18th of November 1959.That brings me up to date.# TOP SECRET
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TOP SECRETMr. Baron. And how long did you serve as Chie fof the African Division?Mr. Tweedy. Until September of '63.Mr. Baron. In that position did you consult frequent with people in policy-making positions at the State Department?- Mr. Tweedy. Well, as I was explaining to you as we were strolling around, the simple answer to that is yes.These consultations would take many, many different forms.On the Congo, for example, the State Dapartment obviously was just as involved as practically the rest of the U.S. Government and they had a Congolese task force. I would attend their meetings or a representative of mine woul! attend their meatings. They took place almost daily, sometimes I guess even more than once daily.Mr. Baron. During what period of time?Mr. Tweedy. Oh, Lord, from the time the Congo thin; really hotted up, and I am talking then particularly under tir Kennedy Administration, when Mennen Williams organized the task force and Wayne Fredericks was his deputy; those meetings were State's meetings, they weren't CIA meetings, they weren't meetings primarily to discuss the CIA policy, but we had to be there to maintain, to keep abreast of what the policy was.Mr. Baron. If we could focus our attention on the period hetween the independence of the Congo in June of '60 and the announcement of the death of Lumumba in February of '1.TOP SECRET
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# TOP SECRET1 Mr. Tweedy. WAs that the month of his death?2 Mr. Baron. The month the death was announced.3 As you know, there is a lot of mystery surrounding his death and the probable cause of his death. AS far as the U::. investigation was concerned it was January 17 or perhaps January 18, 1961.6 Mr. Tweedy. Yes.8 Mr. Baron. What was the nature of your contact with the State Department during that period of time?10 Mr. Tweedy. My recollection of this is far less Congo and far more general, as I was mentioning to you as we strolled, and particularly my talks with Jim Penfield, to whom Joe Satterswate was dedicated.13 Joe Satterswate, who was Assistant Secretary for African Affairs, and Penfield and I were colleagues in Vienna together. lle had the minister. But we did a great deal of talking together about CIA deployment in Africa. I was forming a division both at home and abroad and I had a lot of things to negotiate with him [about state cover for]20 and he naturally had his views on a lot of the thing we wanted to do, and we spent a great deal of time arguing these things out, making arrangements and so on and so forth.. To be frank with you, I have far less recollection ab intimate policy talks on places like the Congo with that particular group than I did after 19-what, the beginning of# TOP SECRET![image]
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# TOP SECRETthe Kennedy Administration.Mr. Baron. It was during the Kennedy Administration that the large scale paramilitary operations in the Congo were geared up.Mr. Tweedy. All that happened then, absolutely.Mr. Baron. Do you remember discussions with Livingstond Merchant in the State Department before the turn of Administrations?Mr. Tweedy. I knew Livingstone Merchant but specific discussions with him I really do not recall, no. Later on I remember having a couple of meetings along with Mr. Rusk.Mr. Baron. Did any of those meetings concern Lumumba?Mr. Tweedy. No, Mr. Rusk, I think they exclusively concerned Portuguese Africa.Mr. Baron. Do you remember having any meetings alone with Herter, Secretary Herter, about Lumumba?Mr. Tweedy. I am not sure I have had a meeting with Mr. Herter.Mr. Baron. Did you have any meetings with Secretary Herter or Douglas Dillon or Livingstone Merchant?Mr. Tweedy. Never met Mr. Dillon.Mr. Baron. About Congolese affairs?Mr. Tweedy. Never met Mr. Dillon and I do not recall having met with Livingstone Merchant on the Congo. I may have done so but I really don't recall, I had very little# TOP SECRET