Francesco/who-killed-jfk huggingface dataset:
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J. B. ADAMSDEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR![Seal of the Department of Justice]9. Are there any files - pers & corres. in Asoras forum home asss = Miss Sisley - no.10. Re. Confidential trash = Epstein wants to kurn if log was kept - sicy mem.11. Re back door = who used - any files in hallway - no.
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Mr. Mohe,I didn't mention the questions to expedite processing of the Close questioning in the Ex. Assistant title. You explained those items.Hope 2 remembered enough.ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIEDDATE 10-11-2006 BY SMACMPLMDR46![holes in the paper]
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# May 15, 1975Present at questioning -Mark GitensteinMike EpsteinMartha Talley (morning session only)John P. MohrHelen W. GandyThe first questions concerned the set-up of the Director's office suite. Special interest was indicated in the rear exit of the suite and it was explained that this exit was used by the Director as it was most convenient to his private office. Mr. Mohr also mentioned the kitchen and lavatory, as the questioners appeared to be completely unfamiliar with the arrangement of the suite.Next, the conference room was described and in answer to questions the use of the conference room was explained - also, information was given re the contents of the bookcases in this room, ie, miscellaneous books; the Criminal Code volumns; the ring binders of Interesting Cases.Numerous questions were asked:How often did the Director call conferences of the officials of the Bureau -what were the purposes of these conferences -just who attended them -were they called by the Director - and was this at set and regular intervals.Mr. Mohr explained that the Director from time to time, as he reviewed matters of policy and like matters that came to his attention, made notes which he discussed with the officials, giving them his ideas on these matters and in turn listening to their views. These sessions considered over all matters re Bureau administration and policy.Three; The physical set-up of the office of the Executive Assistant:I was asked re the number of file cases in my office - I answered that I could not, at this date, be positive, but I believe there were approximately ten or twelve five-drawer cabinets -What were the contents of these cabinets and where were the so-called o.c. files - were the o.c. files contained in combination locked cabinetsI answered that all of the cabinets in my office were secured with special locks and key, and that the key was kept in a special locked key-cabinet in this office.Questions-did I receive calls for the Director from his friends and others, and did I transfer them to his desk; did I make memoranda of such calls; did I keep a diary; (Mr. Gitenstein made a remark re a special telephone connection between the Director and "Bobby", apparently thought better of it, and remarked that Mr. Mitchell had such a connection)
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2. He was immediately corrected by me to the effect that no such connection existed with Attorneys General other than Attorney General Kennedy. I answered that I did receive calls from persons wishing to speak with the Director; that, if he were in his office, such calls would be transferred to the Director's Office telephone room to be connected with the Director if he should be in his office and could take the call. (Here Mr. Mohr explained in detail the system of handling telephone calls in the Director's office and the functions of the FBI telephone switchboard.)It was explained that the file cabinets in my office contained strictly personal correspondence of the Director; that from time to time during the past fifty years files which were no longer current were eliminated.Re the so-called o.c. files- it was explained that these files were located in one of the locked cabinets; that there were, possibly one and a half or two file drawers of these. In answer to questioning it was explained that on the day of Mr. Hoover's death I spoke with both Mr. Tolson, who at that time was Acting Director, and Mr. Mohr, and asked for instructions as to whom I should deliver the official-confidential files and other Bureau material contained in the Director's offices. I also advised Mr. Tolson of Mr. Hoover's expressed instructions that his personal correspondence be destroyed, and that he, Mr. Hoover, had begun a review of these personal files sometime previous to his death, and some already had been destroyed. Mr. Tolson instructed that the official-confidential files and all other Bureau material, ie, Interesting Cases; monographs, Manuels, be delivered to Mr. Mark Felt. (Here, I was asked where the Bureau material was kept and answered that bookcases in my office were used for this purpose.I was exhaustively questioned by Mr. Epstein as to whether I called Mr. Tolson (and where he was located at the time) or whether Mr. Tolson called me. I told him that at this late date I had no idea as to who called whom, but that he was assured that Mr. Tolson and I communicated. I also was asked when Mr. Tolson arrived at Mr. Hoover's house on the morning in question and/was told Mr. Tolson arrived after Mr. Hoover's body was discovered. (I asked if more details of that morning were desired and was told no.) I explained that instructions were immediately carried out; the o.c. files, with the index cards pertaining to them, together with the above mentioned Bureau material, was placed in cartons and delivered to Mr. Felt. I was asked who carried these cartons to Mr. Felt's office and said I could not at this date answer this but I believe they would have been carried by either messengers or maintenance personnel.*There was quite much questioning here as to how and where the index cards were filed. It was explained that they were filed in the one index file, cards of a different color being used, and that this file also was locked.NW 88326 Docld:32989611 Page 117
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3. In connection with the above authorizations it was explained that as soon as Mr. Gray was named as the new Director Mr. Felt brought him to the Director's office to afford him an idea of the office set-up; that Mr. Gray indicated a very special interest in the files in my office; that their contents were explained to him and that he was invited to view the contents. He did glance thru a drawer and obviously was satisfied that they contained personal correspondence anly, and was also satisfied that the Bureau material had been delivered to Mr. Felt. One of the questioners remarked that there appeared to be more o.c. files than had been indicated; that a larger number had been given to Attorney General Levi...I remarked that I would not know whether other files had been added to the group after they had been delivered to Mr. Felt. Mr. Gitenstein then attempted to show me a pamphlet indicating what appeared to be testimony of the Attorney General describing certain of the files in question and asked questions re specific cases which were contained in the o.c. files. I told him I would not presume, after three years, to try to remember specifics. He asked if there were a file containing reports from the Washington Field Office. I told him certainly I would not remember such a file, if one existed.To questions regarding the destruction of personal correspondence files I explained that up until the time I left the Bureau I continued to tear up and deposit the contents of these files in the "confidential trash" waste baskets; (Mr. Mohr here explained this method of disposal.) that I had asked Mr. Gray if, in order to vacate the office as soon as possible for his convenience, I could have his approval to send to Mr. Hoover's house files which could not be disposed of before my date of retirement and finish the taskthere. He did not hesitate to give me this permission. (Mr. Felt, who was present when I spoke with Mr. Gray (in my office) suggested that a locked room on the fifth floor, with a key only I would have, could be made available so the files would be disposed of without moving. I said that would not be necessary and Mr. Gray agreed. At this point Mr. Gitenstein asked me if I thought I might not be the only one with a key. I asked him what he would have thought and he smiled and said he would have thought that.Four: Questions were asked, in further connection with the set-up of the office and personnel.The office of the Office Manager (Miss Holmes). Did she have file cases in her office. The answer was "no".The office of the secretary to the Office Manager (Miss McCord) Were there files in her office and if so what did they contain. The answer was "yes" and the contents were material necessary for use by the Office Manager in connection with her supervision of the office personnel, and maintainance.The reception room. The function of the receptionist was explained.
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4. The telephone room. Here, again, close questioning re files kept in this office. Assurance was given that the only files kept here were background material necessary to the functioning of the office. Questions were asked if records were made of telephone calls and visitors to the Director. Information was given that a daily log was maintained, and it was described. Question was asked re where and how long the logs were maintained. Answer was that they were permanently filed in the main Bureau files. Mail clerk's (Miss Mooney) office. Were there files here? Answer was yes, mainly photograph files and also the scrap books.The names of Miss Holmes - Mrs. Metcalf - Miss McCord - Ron Thompson and Miss Mooney were requested and given.At one point during the sessions in being questioned re the Director's being advised of Bureau matters the questioners were told by both Mr. Mohr and me that Mr. Hoover never was out of touch with the Bureau, day or night, whether in town or out of town.Also, I said at a point when the questioning appeared to be getting pretty far afield, if what they were trying to learn was whether there was contained in the o.c. files anything that would be used for political purpose, the answer was NO - that I had never found the need to lie about anything.NW 88326 Docld:32989611 Page 119
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5/23/75RE: MISS GANDY'S QUESTIONING BY SENATESELECT COMMITTEE INVESTIGATINGFEDERAL AGENCIES WITH INTELLIGENCE-GATHERING FUNCTIONSMiss Gandy and I appeared before the staff of the subcommittee for questioning on May 15, 1975, our appointment being set for 10:30 a. m. The group consisting of Messrs. Gitenstein, Epstein and M. S. Talley immediately proceeded to the former Carroll Arms Apartment building which is now used as an office building by the U.S. Senate. We were taken to the sixth floor where we entered an empty office which contained telephone equipment, some chairs, and a desk.Mr. Gitenstein had apparently drawn up a list of questions he wished to discuss with Miss Gandy and he referred to this list throughout the questioning period.There is attached a rough draft memorandum consisting of four pages and dated May 15, 1975, which was prepared by Miss Gandy concerning her recollection of what transpired during the interview. The interview, incidentally, lasted until 1 p.m. when a one-hour break was taken for lunch. The session reconvened at 2 p. m. and was terminated at 3 p.m.I am setting forth hereafter in numbered paragraphs items which I recollect transpired during the interview which should be helpful in embellishing Miss Gandy's memorandum.(1) During the early part of the questioning, Mr. Gitenstein attempted to draw a chart of Mr. Hoover's office in the Department of Justice building. He said he had previously visited Mr. Kelley's suite in the Justice Building. His effort at charting the office was poor at best and he requested my assistance. A rough chart was drawn showing Mr. Hoover's personal office on one end and Miss Mooney's office on the other end. In making up the chart I inadvertently left out the supply room which, of course, would have been of little or no significance to the questioners since this room contained supplies only and no files.
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(2) Sometime during the interview, Mr. Gitenstein raised a question about "Expedite Processing" of mail and how it was handled in Mr. Hoover's office. Miss Gandy pointed out that the handling of personal and confidential mail for Mr. Hoover was handled by Miss Mooney and she, Miss Gandy, was not aware of just how this mail was handled. I explained that all mail received in the Routing Unit of the Records and Communications Division was taken unopened to Miss Mooney in Mr. Hoover's office where she opened this mail and the clerical employee who brought the mail down then logged it in and stamped the mail "Expedite Processing" on the left-hand edge. Thereafter the clerica employee would take the log back to the Routing Unit and when the mail was subsequently returned to the Routing Unit for regular filing purposes the item would be crossed off the log. Mr. Gitenstein wanted to know if the "Expedite Processing" logs were maintained permanently and he was informed that to my knowledge they were not kept after accounting for the particular items of mail contained on the particular log.(3) Mr. Epstein questioned Miss Gandy at length concerning her title as "Executive Assistant." He wanted to know when she acquired this title and she said she could not recall. He wanted to know whether anyone else at the FBI had occupied this position and Miss Gandy explained that she was the only employee with the title of Executive Assistant who had served under Mr. Hoover during his tenure in office. Mr. Epstein seemed to pay a great deal of attention to the title Executive Assistant and I endeavored to explain to him that the title was a Civil Service Commission title and that Miss Gandy's position was set up under the Classification Act administered by the Civil Service Commission. Although I am not sure what was behind Mr. Epstein's lengthy questioning about this matter, I got the impression he might be trying to find out if Miss Gandy acted for Mr. Hoover on her own initiative. This is just a guess on my part and I am not sure what was behind his questioning.(4) During Miss Gandy's description of the various offices, she did mention specifically the fact that the interesting case files were maintained on the shelves in the big conference room in black folders. They asked what the interesting case files consisted of and I explained this to their satisfaction; namely, that they were writeups of closed cases which might be of interest for various purposes.
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(5) I should mention that Miss Gandy in describing exactly how Mr. Hoover's personal correspondence files were destroyed said she reviewed each item that she handled to make sure that it was not related to Bureau official business. She had previously indicated that Mrs. Erma Metcalf had assisted her in destroying these files but she did not mention that Mrs. Metcalf endulged in the same type of review and Miss Gandy was not questioned whether Mrs. Metcalf had made such a review as she went through the files and helped destroy them.(6) Both Mr. Gitenstein and Mr. Epstein queried Miss Gandy at length about the log kept in the Telephone Room of all calls taken by Mr. Hoover. They also queried her at length concerning a log that was kept in the Telephone Room of all visitors to FBI Headquarters who were seen by Mr. Hoover. Miss Gandy explained that these logs, to her knowledge, were currently retained in the regular Bureau file room.(7) Miss Gandy was asked regarding Mr. Hoover's commitments and she explained that each morning the employees in the Telephone Room prepared a commitment card of Mr. Hoover's commitments for the day and this card was placed on Mr. Hoover's desk the first thing in the morning for his information. Miss Gandy reported that she received a copy of this commitment card. She was asked whether these commitment cards were retained permanently and she replied in the negative. Somewhere along the line it was explained to the interviewers that the Bureau had an instruction that all items of a temporary nature, such as ticklers and the like were to be destroyed after they were 90 days old. Miss Gandy indicated these commitment cards would have come under this category for destruction. Miss Gandy was queried at length as to just how the Telephone Room employees got their information to make up the commitment card and she explained that all employees in Mr. Hoover's office made certain the Telephone Room employees were promptly advised of all of Mr. Hoover's commitments as they were made.(8) In explaining the telephone set-up in the Department of Justice building as far as it related to the FBI, the Staff members were informed that calls for Mr. Hoover were received in the Bur eau's switchboard and were then referred to the Telephone Room in Mr. Hoover's office and the employees in the Telephone Room handled the problem of connecting Mr. Hoover with the caller. They wanted to know whether employees in the Telephone Room screened Mr. Hoover's telephone calls and they were informed Telephone Room employees did not screen them except for "nut" calls.(9) During a rather heated conversation in the afternoon about some of the questioning being done which seemed to be repetitious and
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irrelevant, Mr. Gitenstein was told by me that I felt it was high time the questioners quit "beating around the bush" and came to the point by asking Miss Gandy if she had ever destroyed any official and confidential files. Mr. Gitenstein replied they had a discrepancy concerning the O and C files in that a reliable source had reported that Mr. Mark Felt had five two-drawer cabinets marked "O and C Files" in his office. Miss Gandy on the other hand told Mr. Gitenstein in response to a question that she had turned over to Mr. Felt after Mr. Hoover's death, as she recollected, one and one-half drawersand possibly two drawers of O and C files. I explained to Mr. Gitenstein that Miss Gandy would have no way of knowing what files Mr. Felt had in his office and if there was a discrepancy the person to resolve the discrepancy was Mr. Felt who Mr. Gitenstein had told me previously had been interviewed by him and had been cooperative. I had previously explained to Mr. Gitenstein in response to que stions he asked me when I appeared before the Staff that at the time Mr. William C. Sullivan had furnished the data of the 17 White House telephone taps to Mr. Mardian in the Internal Security Division of the Department that Mr. Hoover had instructed that any Assistant Director or Bureau official who had any files in his office he considered to be confidential and relating to the Bureau's work were to be immediately transferred to Mr. Felt and a memorandum prepared concerning exactly what was transferred to Mr. Felt. I told Mr. Gitenstein I had no idea how many files Mr. Felt collected as a result of Mr. Hoover's instructions. It is interesting to note that I was not asked at any time whether I had turned over any files to Mr. Felt in connection with Mr. Hoover's instructions.(10) Miss Gandy was asked whether there were any files of Mr. Hoover's personal correspondence in Mr. Hoover's former home at the present time. Miss Gandy replied no.(11) At some point during the interview a reference was made to the confidential trash baskets maintained in the Bure au, to wit, the trash baskets with the painted rim on top. Mr. Epstein wanted to know if a log was maintained of items placed in the confidential trash baskets for destruction. I informed him it wuld be ridiculous to think that such a log could be maintained and he was advised exactly how confidential trash is destroyed in the Bureau. He was also informed of the Bureau files that were scattered over the streets of Southwest Washington as a result of the Department of Justice engaging in destruction of some of their files. This reference permitted an immediate termination of any questions along the lines of the destruction of confidential trash.
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(12) Miss Gandy refers to the fact that questions were raised concerning Mr. Hoover's back door entrance. The questions concerning this back door were to determine just who used this back door entrance and its purpose. In addition to explaining it was immediately adjacent to the elevators at 9th and Pennsylvania Avenue which Mr. Hoover used to enter and exit the building, they were also advised that this was Mr. Hoover's private and personal entrance and that persons wishing to see Mr. Hoover were not brought through this back door.The foregoing is submitted for information purposes and as an auxiliary record of Miss Gandy's appearance before the Staff of the Senate Select Committee on May 15, 1975, accompanied by me, John P. Mohr.
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TO: Intelligence Community StaffATTN: Central IndexFROM: Federal Bureau of InvestigationSUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees1. HOW PROVIDED (check appropriate term. If a document was made available for review but not transmitted, so note.)DOCUMENT BRIEFING X INTERVIEW TESTIMONY OTHER2. DATE PROVIDED   6/12/743. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate term; add specific names if appropriate)SSC Memorandum containing results of interview provided to Attorney General and to Mr. James A. Wilderotter, Associate Counsel to the President.HSC4. IDENTIFICATION (provide descriptive data for documents; give name or identification number of briefer, interviewee, testifier and subject)Miss Helen W. Gandy, former Executive Assistant to the Director of the FBI.5. IN RESPONSE TO (list date and item number if in response to formal request, otherwise state verbal request of (name), initiative, subpoena, etc.)(NOT APPLICABLE)6. CLASSIFICATION OF INFORMATION (enter U, C, S, TS or Codeword)   """7. KEY WORDS (enter the appropriate key words from the list provided separately; if key words not listed are used underline for emphasis)ManagementOperating ProceduresALL INFORMATION CONTAINEDHEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIEDDATE 10-11-2000 BY SPZALM/pwfMDR-168. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completing this item)Miss Gandy was questioned by Staff Members of SSC concerning the organizational and operational procedures followed in former Director Hoover's office, as well as maintenance of and dispositim of the files of the former Director marked "Official and Confidential."TREAT AS YELLOWTJM:1hb ORIGINAL VIA LIAISON TO CENTRAL COMMUNITY INDEX IN CONNECTION WITH SENSTUDY 75.(4)62-116395 6-24-75 LFS3791 (6.75)NW 88326 Docld:32989611 Page 125
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