Francesco/who-killed-jfk huggingface dataset:
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13-00000EP 65-951In the presence of El Paso Police DepartmentDetective THOMAS F. MC CONNELL, JR. and his partner,NAGELL stated that he desired to talk to Special Agentsof the FBI. He stated that he did not desire to talkin the presence of anyone else and Detective MC CONNELLand his partner then departed.NAGELL started off his conversation by saying thatwhen he had appeared before the US Commissioner just priorto this interview, that he had "pled not guilty" since hedid not know what else to do. He stated that he did not desireto be represented by an attorney and that he did not carewhat happened to him. He exhibited his left wrist, the insideof which was covered with a great number of superficialwounds to the skin. He stated that the night before whilehe was in the El Paso City Jail he had used a piece of tinin an attempt to cut his wrists. He said he had lost abouta pint of blood.He stated that when he entered the State NationalBank of El Paso on the afternoon of September 20, 1963, thathe would not have taken any money. He said that to thebest of his recollection he had been in El Paso forseveral days and had made an attempt to find a former warbuddy of his named JOSE C. IBARRA, who formerly resided at904 South Hill Street in El Paso. He stated that he hadmade inquiry at this address, but IBARRA had moved and he wasnot able to find out where he had gone. He said that he hadknown IBARRA in 1948 and 1949 when both of them were Sergeantsin the Army. Continuing, he advised that he had driven toEl Paso from San Diego, California. NAGELL stated that hehad not eaten in three days because he did not feel likedoing so. When asked if he desired food he stated that he wasafraid that it would make him sick if he attempted to eat.NAGELL stated that he wanted to point out thathe had in the past received psychiatric treatment and that in1955 he had been hospitalized at Walter Reed Army Hospital asa result of the crash of an Air Force B-25. He advised thathe had been the sole survivor of this crash and had spenta considerable length of time in the hospital. He advised33.
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EP 65-951that Doctor EDWIN A. WEINSTEIN, a civilian doctor assigned to the Neuropsychiatric Center at Walter Reed Hospital had treated him and had a considerable amount of information as to his mental condition. Continuing, he advised that he did not think that he was crazy, but that he felt that he needed psychiatric attention and advice because of the fact that he was highly emotional and at times he could not remember what he was saying or where he was for short periods. He stated that he had requested admission to the psychiatric ward at the Veterans' Hospital, Brentwood, Los Angeles, California, however, he was not granted admission and he stated that to the best of his recollection he made this request in May or June of 1963. He pointed out that all of his medical records could be obtained at the Veterans Administration Regional Office, 1380 South Sepulveda Roulevard, Los Angeles, California.He further advised that he had been hospitalized at the Veterans' Hospital, Bay Fines, Florida, from December 20, 1962 until January, 1963, at which time he was discharged against medical advice. He stated that he had been confined in this hospital as a result of "spells" that he had been having and that he was in the hospital for observation.NAGELL was highly emotional, was given to spells of crying, and stated that he had not been able to get his feet on the ground since his discharge from the United States Army in 1959. In this connection, he stated that his wife was a Japanese and that he had resigned his commission as a Captain in the Imited States Army since she was extremely unhappy with his being assigned to the Infantry. He said that he had resigned the commission and that after the divorce had been granted, he had not been allowed to see his two small children because he had not been able to pay the required alimony.He stated that he had been employed by the Alcoholic and Beverage Control in California, but had lost his job in 1962. He said that he had not worked since then and actually was not able to do any kind of work because of the time he had spent in the Army. He stated that the only job that he was prepared for was that of an investigator since he had learned this as a Counter-Intelligence Corps representative34.
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EP 65-951of the U. S. Army. He stated that he had been shot throughthe chest in 1962 in Los Angeles, California, but that theshooting was a result of a private matter and he did notcare to discuss it further.He stated that lately he had been too upset tobe even considered for a job and then intimated that hehad gone into the State National Bank "so that they wouldtake him back in the hospital." He stated that he was not inthe bank to get any money and that he fired the shots tokeep anyone from following him. He said that he had usedthe names of JOE KRANE and ROBERT C. NOLAN and advised thathe had used the name of NOLAN while in the MilitaryIntelligenceNAGELL further advised that he had been sufferingfrom a headache for several days and stated that he had beentaking some kind of pills that were furnished to him by theVeterans' Administration, but that he was out of these pillsand did not know what they were. He requested an aspirin,which was obtained for him. In response to a question as towhether or not he desired to see a doctor, he stated that hedid not.In the September 21, 1963, issue of the El PasoTimes, an article appeared on page 1-A entitled "VeteranTries Daring Bank Robbery." The article contained asub-caption "Fires Two Shots As Clerk Flees From Counter."The article states, "A 34-year-old battle-scarred Koreanwar hero, armed with a .45 Colt, made a daring but unsuccessfulattempt to rob the State National Bank about 4:30 PM Friday,firing two shots as he ran out of the crowded bank."Detectives and FBI Agents going through the suspect'sSuitcase found photostatic copies of numerous certificates andcommendations showing he had acquired an outstanding militaryrecord in 11 years of service with the U. S. Army in Korea:A photostat showed he had been honorably discharged from theArmy at Fort Dix, New Jersey, October, 1959, with the rankof Captain."Other military papers found in NAGELL's suitcaseshowed he had been awarded the Purple Heart three times for35.
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13-00000CP 65-951younds received in battle with the enemy in Korea. Other papers also disclosed he had been awarded the Bronze Star for meritorious and outstanding service in Korea."Speaking to FBI Agents and other officers NAGELL admitted he had entered the Army as a buck private and was in line for promotion to major when he was given his honorable discharge. He told agents he spoke Russian, Japanese and Spanish fluently.""His Army papers disclosed NAGELL had graduated with honors from the Army Military Intelligence School, from a special leader's course, and had served in the counter intelligence corps (CIC). He had records showing he had been given top secret security clearance on September 22, 1950."The September 22, 1963, issue of the El Paso Times contains an article on page 1-A entitled "NAGELL Pleads Not Guilty." According to the article, "City jailers reported NAGELL has refused to eat his meals since he was booked in jail. They also reported the prisoner attempted to cut his wrists in his City Jail cell Friday night by using a tin can converted to an ash tray.""After he was turned over to the custody of Sheriff BOB BAILEY, jailers were instructed to maintain a close watch on the prisoner and stop him from making any attempts on his life."The September 26, 1963, issue of the El Paso Times contains an article on page 7-A entitled "NAGELL To Take Sanity Test at La Tuna." According to the article, "Former Army Captain RICHARD CASE NAGELL, 34, charged with bank robbery in an unsuccessful attempt to hold up the State National Bank, will be taken to La Tuna Correctional Institution Thursday for a sanity test.""He will be examined by Dr. R. J. BENNETT on the motion of Assistant U. S. District Attorney FRED MORTON, who obtained an order authorizing the check up from U. S. District Judge R. E. THOMASON."36.
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EP 65-951"MORTON said the preliminary investigation indicated that a psychiatric examination would be necessary before the government could proceed further in the case. The investigation showed that NAGELL was the sole survivor of a military plane crash, that since his discharge he had visited several FBI offices offering "highly secret" counterintelligence information, and earlier this year had been under psychiatric care in Florida for a month."On September 27, 1963, Staff Sergeant (E-6) PHILIP J. DALY, US Army, RA 32 293 739, presently assigned to the 4th Fulisted Student Battery, School Support Command, Fort Bliss Texas, stated that he served in the same detachment in Tokyo, Japan, with RICHARD CASE NAGELL, the 441st CIC, during the spring of 1958, from approximately February to May, when he (DALY) returned to the United States. He has had no contact with NAGELL since that time.There was only a normal acquaintance between a Captain (NAGELL) and a Master Sergeant (DALY) during this period of time.DALY first met NAGELL on a temporary duty trip to Sendai, in northern Japan, where NAGELL had been sent to replace the Operations Officer. NAGELL stated at that time that he was being shunted into a corner.DALY next met NAGELL about a month later in Fort Drake Tokyo.All enlisted men of the 441st CIC Detachment thought that NAGELL was slightly unbalanced, and was not a normal officer. The reputation among the enlisted men was to stay away from NAGELL.The November 4, 1963, issue of the El Paso Herald-Post contained an article on page l entitled "Holdup Suspect. Fires Lawyer." According to the article, "RIAMARD CASE NAGELL charged in U. S. District Court with an attempt to hold up the State National Bank told the Court today he did not attempt to hold up the bank."37.
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EP 65-951""I had a motive for doing what I did,' NAGELL told Federal Judge R. E. THOMASON. "But my motive was not to hold up the bank I do not intend to disclose my motive at this time.'"NAGELL, 33, told Judge THOMASON that he is a veteran of the Korean War, that he was injured three times, and that 'I am a 64 per cent disabled veteran.""The accused man was before the court on a petition filed by his own hand for a writ of habeas corpus, claiming he was being held prisoner illegally."NAGELL asked Judge THOMASON to discharge Attorney JAMES HAMMOND, who had been appointed by the court to represent NAGELL. Judge THOMASON granted the request, after telling NAGELL that Mr. HAMMOND is considered an able, conscientious member of El Paso Bar. NAGELL had refused to talk to MT. HAMMOND before the hearing opened."The matter of whether NAGELL, would consent to undergo psychiatric treatment was discussed, and NAGELL said he would be willing to go to La Tuna Federal Correctional Institution, and that:'I will obey all their rules but I will not cooperate for any psychiatric examination except an examination conducted by a psychiatrist for the Veterans Administration.'"Judge THOMASON said he would name a psychiatrist from William Beaumont Army Hospital to examine NAGELL. The Judge said he would appoint another attorney to represent NAGELL."On November 18, 1963, the subject filed a writ of habaes corpus in the United States District Court in El Paso. NAGELL requested interview with a Special Agent of the FBI. On interview, NAGELL furnished the following signed statement:"11/19/63"El Paso, Texas"I, Richard Case Nagell, do hereby make the following38.
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13-00000EP 65-951free and voluntary statement to Edward Joseph Murphy and George E. Aiken, who have identified themselves to me as Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They have advised me that the information furnished herein may be used in court. No threats, promises or force of any kind was used to get me to make this statement."I was born in Greenwich, N.Y. on August 5, 1930"I was arrested on September 20, 1963, in El Paso, Texas. On September 21, 1963, I was arraigned before the United States Commissioner in El Paso, Texas, on a charge of bank robbery, at which time I entered a plea of not guilty and was bound over for indictment by the Federal Grand Jury. Bail was set at $25,000. On September 21, 1963 I was incarcerated in the El Paso County jail, where I since have been and am presently confined."On September 24, 1963, the United States District Court ordered that I be given a psychiatric examination to determine my mental competency to stand trial, and that if determined necessary by the examining psychiatrist, to conduct such examination, to be committed to the Federal Correctional Institution, La Tuna, Texas, for a period not exceding two weeks"On November 4, 1963, the court nullified that part of the aforesaid order, pertaining to the committment, and re-ordered that I be committed to Beaumont Army Hospital, El Paso, Texas, for said psychiatric examination."On September 24, 1963 and again on November 4, 1963, the U.S. District Court ordered that further prosecutive action against me, be deferred until such time as the Court is in receipt of the results of said psychiatric examination."As of this date I have not received the afore- mentioned psychiatric examination nor have I been committed to either of the aforementioned institutions for such examination, nor have I been indicted by the Federal Grand Jury."I believe that an unnecessary and undue delay has occurred in bringing me to trial, as a result of my reluctance39.
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EP 65-951to participate in a psychiatric consultetion and/or examination. I believe that this is a violation of my right to a speedy trial as guaranteed to me by Amendment 6 of the Constitution."In relation to the foregoing statement, I believe that I, as an accused person, am not required by law to emit any statement or to answer any questions, whatsoever, to any person, whomsoever, including a psychiatrist, psychologist, or physiologist, nor that I am required by law to participate in any examination, test or activity, verbal, written or otherwise, if I do not so elect. To he coerced to do so, is a violation of my rights under Amendment 5 of the Constitution"An attempt has been made to indirectly coerce me to incriminate myself, by a court appointed psychiatrist known to me as Doctor Bennett, in that he queried me as to my motive for committing the alleged offense and stated to me that if I did not give him such information, I was being uncooperative, and that I might have to be sent to Springfield Medical Center, if I did not cooperate with him.I further believe that I am being coerced into taking psychiatric examination and/or consultation by the resulting undue delay in bringing me to trial."I have read this statement consisting of this and 3 other pages, and it is true and correct./s/Richard Case Nagell"Witness:/s/ Edward Joseph Murphy, Special Agent FBI, El Paso, Texas, 11/19/63/s/ George E. Aiken, Jr Special Agent, F.B.J, El Paso, Texas 11/19/63"On November 19, 1963, Assistant United States Attorney FREDERICK J. MORTON, El Paso, advised that there is no validity to subject's allegation inasmuch as Title 18, Section 4244, U. S. Code, states that upon a motion by the United States40.
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EP 65-951Attorney. the defense attorney, or upon its own motion, the court shall cause the accused to be examined as to his mental condition where it is felt that he may be presently insane or otherwise mentally incompetent as to be unable to understand the proceedings against him or to properly assist in his own defense. Assistant U. S. Attorney MORTON advised that according to this Statute, the examination can be made with or without the consent of the accused. Assistant U. S. Attorney MORTON stated that the subject has constantly refused to cooperate with psychiatrists, and has refused to even speak to them, and that this refusal on his part has held up any possible psychiatric examination, necessitating postponing further action.The subject, who is still incarcerated in the El Paso County Jail, sent the following note to SA THOMAS B. WHITE, JR. of the El Paso Office of the FBI, which reads as follows:"Mr. White"When one's actions are motivated by an ideological conviction, he cannot deviate from his pursued path simply because society may censure it as wrong. But when he becomes disillusioned with such ideology, and an existing situation so dictates, he must initiate immediate corrective action as befits circumstance and as best he knows how"I have always acted from a principal of love for my country, and this same principle actuated my conduct of September 20th, however inappropriate or incomprehensible it may appear."/s/ Richard C. Nagell"The December 10, 1963, issue of the El Paso Times contained an article on pages 1 and 3-A entitled "Says Bank Holdup Try 'Patriotic'" According to the article, NAGELL had submitted several handwritten petitions to the Judge of the United States District Court in El Paso. The article states, "In one petition, dated December 5, he wrote, 'I have41.
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EP 65-951always acted from a principle of love for my country and this same principle actuated my conduct on September 20, 1963, however inappropriate or incomprehensible it may appear. God and I, and also the FBI, know that I am not guilty."NAGELL is accused of pulling a gun on a teller at the bank When the teller fled, NAGELL, is alleged to have fired two shots into the bank ceiling."NAGELL had previously indicated he might submit to examination by a psychiatrist at William Beaumont General Hospital. But at the hearing it was brought out he refused to do so now."Judge THOMASON then overruled his motion for a writ and asked that NAGELL's case be taken before a Federal Grand Jury. Previously the judge had ordered that all prosecution be deferred until an examination report on NAGELL's mental competency was obtained."The judge said NAGELL's argument on the bond 'more thoroughly convinces the court you need psychiatric help.'""When NAGELL was returned to the jail, he would not tell reporters why he entered the bank. As in the past he said he would not disclose his motive."FRED MORTON, Assistant U. S. District Attorney, said Monday afternoon that the case will probably be taken before a U. S. Grand Jury in January in San Antonio."On January 3, 1964, GEORGE NORMAN STANGA was contacted and interviewed at the El Paso County Jail after he contacted the El Paso Office of the FBI and specifically requested that he be interviewed regarding RICHARD CASE NAGELL. At the time of the interview, NAGELL was incarcerated at the El Paso County Jail as a Federal prisoner for the crime of bank robbery.42.
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13-00000EP 65-951STANGA stated that since his arrest and incarceration at the El Paso County Jail for bad checks, he has become quite friendly with RICHARD CASE NAGELL. He stated that NAGELL was a very mixed-up individual, but that he enjoyed the company of STANGA and confided in him. He went on to say that NAGELL had recently confided in him to the extent that he had told him why he attempted to hold up the State National Bank of El Paso, Texas NAGELL told STANGA that after his release from the United States Army, he drifted from job to job and became more and more mentally confused as to his political, religious, and economic allegiances. During this confused period, NAGELL apparently became a member of the Communist Party of the United States and told STANGA that he did some minor work for this organization prior to his trip to El Paso NAGELL also explained to STANGA that he divorced his wife during this period, and after making several scenes with his wife, was barred by court order from seeing his children. During this period of his life, NAGELL told STANGA that he lived in the Los Angeles, California, area.NAGELL explained to STANGA that he came to El Paso, Texas, after making a decision that everything was against him'in Los Angeles and that he should attempt to leave the United States for a Communist country in Europe. In line with this decision to leave the United States, NAGELL made a contact with the Communist Party in Los Angeles, and arranged to meet a courier or contact man for the Party in El Paso, Texas This contact man was allegedly to have a visa and passport for NAGELL so that he might leave the United States and eventually end up in Czechoslovakia. NAGELL then left the Los Angeles area and drove to El Paso, Texas. He told STANGA that during this trip, he stopped by the side of the road on at least three occasions and attempted suicide with a pistol which was in his possession. He explained to STANGA, however, that he did not have the guts to do it and just let things drift along. After arriving in El Paso, Texas, NAGELL said that he got a hotel room and again attempted suicide with the revolver. He again did not have the nerve to "pull the trigger" and decided that the best way to commit suicide would be by leaving the hotel and having a "shoot-out" with43
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FD 65-951a policeman. He left the hotel room, got in his car, and proceded down the streets of El Paso looking for a policeman who looked like he would shoot it out with him. NAGELL told STANGA that he did not see a patrolman, however, and decided that he would enter the State National Bank of El Paso, and cause a big ruckus because he knew that a policeman was in the building guarding a Treasury Department money display. NAGELL entered the bank and fired two shots into a wall and then left the bank, fully expecting to be shot down by a pussing policeman: However, he escaped to his car, which was parked in an alley, and gave up peaceably when arrested by the policeman who was guarding the money display in the bank. NAGELL told STANGA that his robbery of the bank was purely a suicide attempt and that he had no intention of robbing the bank for any monetary gain.In addition to the Communist activities mentioned above, STANGA reported that NAGELL told him of a number of rolls of microfilm which contained names, meeting places, and other activities of the Communist Party, which were in his possession. Nagell, explained that these microfilms were hidden in a gas mask (Japanese type) which was located at his sister's house in New York City. He went on to say that these micro-film are hidden in the salve container which is afixed to the gas mask.. NAGELL also explained to STANGA that he had not given this information to the Federal Bureau of Investigation because he felt they would indict him as a spy and put him in jail for life.On January 6, 1964, the subject furnished the following signed statement:"1/6/64"El Paso, Texas"I, Richard Case Nagell, do heroby make the following free and voluntary statement to Edward Joseph Murphy and Lawrence W. Gorman, who have identified themselves to me as Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They have advised me that I do not have to make any statement and44.