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SECRETglance at the pass, put in the official validating Arbeits Ant cachet. With tale document, Subject proceeded to the Berlin "Presidium" (Police Head- quarters) where, on the basis of this document, Surect vas able to obtain a foreigie's passport. Subject advised that he was successful in this endeavor only because the various German departments haal very little liaison with each other, and there appeared to be no central card index system whereby individuals could be cross checked. Another reason that Subject advanced as as an explanation for his success was that, according to Subject, German clerks were extremely conscious and respectful of any official looking cachet, and could not conceive that anyone would have the effrontery of counterfeiting an official document. Subject explained that the infor mation he had filled in the passport stated that he was allowed to proceed to France in order to visit his parents. Subject described the foreimer's passport as a regular booklet with a grayish color. The sexe procedure vas utilized in order to obtain a passport for Pascal.24. Sometine during the spring of 1943, Subject and Pascal returned to Paris, and both decided that there was no point in remaining in France under the German occupation, and they made plans too to Brazil. They took the trala and proceeded to the Spanish border, arriving in the town of Hendaye. They crossed into Spain through a mountain trail, and attempted to exchange their French francs into Spanish pesetas. They were unsuccessful, vere looked upon very suspiciously, remained for one day and decided to return to France, where the German Grenz Policei, which Subject believes vere ne bars of the Wehrmacht, arrested Subject and Pascal and kent then under guard for a period of approximately four days. During this time, they were mildly interrogated, and a check was made to see whether they were wanted by the German Police. After four days, they were released and taken under guard to the Hendaye Railroad Station, and were told to buy tickets to Paris, which they had indicated as their residence.25. As soon as the German authorities left, Subject and Pascal ex- changed their tickets for another destination, and got out at the town of Pau. There they proceeded, on foot, to Holeon on the border of Vichy France. They crossed over and met two gendarme and told the gendarme that they (Subject and Pascal) wanted to join the Foreign Legion. At the gendarmerie, they were given an official travel order to proceed to Toulouse. Upon arriving there they were told to proceed to harseilles. In Marseilles, Subject and Pascal made a faux pas. Tay ahowed their German passports, and the attitude of the French changed. Pascal indicated to the French authorities that he would volunteer as a vorker in Africa, and Subject stated that he would return to Paris. Subject went to Lyons where he had a friend, a far removed cousin by the name of Guiga vao vas later killed during an air raid. Subject's cousin attempted to help hin (Subject) but was unable to do so, and Sbject took the train to the Chalons-sur-Soane, the border between occupied and unoccupied France.25. At the border, the guard misread Subject's name at Fritz WILI. Subject played his role to the hilt, using his knowledge of the German6