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670,079,951 | Certainly.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 101 | Mr. HARRISON | Unknown | HARRISON | Unknown | M | 891 | 891 | 08171921.txt | 10 | 1 |
670,079,952 | I call the attention of the Senator from Mississippi to a question and an answer as they appear on page 1419 of the RECORD Of May 13. 1921. about the matter which he has just been discussing. The junior Senator from Utah said this: The Senator from Maine has just indicated. if I interpreted his remarks correctly. that the President of the United States had intimatedand if I quote him incorrectly I hope he will correct methat this was not quite the time to present the question of disarmament. I would prefer to have the Senator state what was said. because then I can not be put in the attitude of misquoting him. this is the answer of the Senator from Maine:
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 102 | Mr. McKELLAR | Unknown | MCKELLAR | Unknown | M | 892 | 913 | 08171921.txt | 663 | 122 |
670,079,953 | I stated that my impression. after talking with the President. wa§ that he considered that this Is not the time to go ahead with a resolution of this kind. Of course. the Senator realizes that our foreign relations at the present time are extremely delicate and that the country at large is looking to the President to straighten out these foreign relations. Under the circumstances I do not think. so far as I myself am concerned. that we need advise the President what to do in the matter of making treaties. I think we can safely leave it to him. So far as the resolution is concerned. there was a resolution when the 1916 program was adopted which was passed by Congress looking forward to disarmament. I think we can let It go at that without taking any action at the present time. I am simply speaking for myself.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 103 | Mr. HALE | Unknown | HALE | Unknown | M | 914 | 926 | 08171921.txt | 819 | 149 |
670,079,954 | Mr. President-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 104 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 927 | 927 | 08171921.txt | 14 | 2 |
670,079,955 | The Senator from Michigan.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 105 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 928 | 928 | 08171921.txt | 26 | 4 |
670,079,956 | Mr. President. before the Senator from Michigan proceeds with his matter I should like to Inquire of the Senator from Washington or any other member of the Foreign Relations Committee why Germany has not been invited to participate in the conference?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 106 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 929 | 933 | 08171921.txt | 250 | 41 |
670,079,957 | Mr. President. will the Senator yield?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 107 | Mr. HARRISON | Unknown | HARRISON | Unknown | M | 934 | 934 | 08171921.txt | 38 | 6 |
670,079,958 | I yield.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 108 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 935 | 935 | 08171921.txt | 8 | 2 |
670,079,959 | It may be because the administration has not decided whether we are still at war or are now at peace. The proclamation has not yet been issued that Mr. Daugherty. the Attorney General. has been considering for months. and there seems to be a good deal of uncertainty and doubt as to whether or not the proclamation will be issued.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 109 | Mr. HARRISON | Unknown | HARRISON | Unknown | M | 936 | 941 | 08171921.txt | 330 | 60 |
670,079,960 | Mr. President. I hope now we can proceed with the business that is before the Senate. If Senators desire to talk politics and to catechize each other as to what they have done or have not done. I have no objection to it if I could only persuade the Senate to allow us to proceed with the bill that has the approval of nearly every Member of the Senate and which we can dispose of very quickly and send it to conference. where I am anticipating we will have to devote some time to harmonizing the differences between the two Houses. If we carry an appropriation in the bill It will have to go back to the House and then to conference before that can be determined. What I am asking now is that the Senate may proceed. according to what is its seeming desire. to dispose of the bill and leave these other matters out.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 110 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 950 | 963 | 08171921.txt | 815 | 156 |
670,079,961 | Mr. President-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 111 | Mr. POMERENE | Unknown | POMERENE | Unknown | M | 964 | 964 | 08171921.txt | 14 | 2 |
670,079,962 | Does the Senator from Michigan yield to the Senator from Ohio?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 112 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 965 | 967 | 08171921.txt | 62 | 11 |
670,079,963 | I yield.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 113 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 968 | 968 | 08171921.txt | 8 | 2 |
670,079,964 | I hope the Senator will not be too insistent. There has been no opportunity for morning business. and I am anxious to present a Senate resolution. calling upon the State Department for certain information with respect to the sinking of the Lusitania and claims that have been fled. and so forth. I wish to ask unanimous consent to present the resolution now and for its present consideration. If it leads to any discussion at all I will withdraw it.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 114 | Mr. POMERENE | Unknown | POMERENE | Unknown | M | 969 | 976 | 08171921.txt | 449 | 79 |
670,079,965 | I yield for that purpose. although I hope I will not be asked again to yield.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 115 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 977 | 978 | 08171921.txt | 77 | 16 |
670,079,966 | Mr. President-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 116 | Mr. SMOOT | Unknown | SMOOT | Unknown | M | 997 | 997 | 08171921.txt | 14 | 2 |
670,079,967 | I yield to the Senator from Utah.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 117 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 998 | 998 | 08171921.txt | 33 | 7 |
670,079,968 | I report from the Committee on Finance a joint resolution which was agreed upon by the committee this morning. and I ask for its present consideration. If it leads to a moments discussion I shall withdraw it. It is simply a joint resolution changing the name -of the Veterans Bureau to the United States Veterans Bureau. In the designation of the bureau as the Veterans Bureau. Col. Forbes advises me that every American Legion has a veterans bureau within the legion and the mails have already begun to be mixed up and mail intended for those bureaus are coming into the Veterans Bureau here in Washington. The joint resolution merely changes the name from the Veterans Bureau to the United States Veterans Bureau to differentiate between that bureau and the veterans bureau of the American Legion.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 118 | Mr. SMOOT | Unknown | SMOOT | Unknown | M | 999 | 1,013 | 08171921.txt | 799 | 136 |
670,079,969 | May I inquire of my colleague whether it is a unanimous report?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 119 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,014 | 1,015 | 08171921.txt | 63 | 12 |
670,079,970 | It is a unanimous report. The joint resolution (S. J. Res..103) changing the name of the Veterans Bureau to " United States Veterans Bureau." was read the first time by its title and the second time at lengh. as follows: Resolved. etc.. That the Veterans tureau. created by the act entitled "An act to establish a veterans bureau and to improve the facilities and service of such bureau. and further to amend and modify the war .risk insurance act." approved -August 9. 1921. shall be known as the "United States Veterans Bureau." and whenever used in such act the term "Veterans Bureau " shall mean " United States Veterans Bureau." . There being no objection. the joint resolution was considered as in Committee of the Whole. The joint resolution was reported to the Senate without amendment. ordered to be engrossed for a third reading. read the third time. and passed.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 120 | Mr. SMOOT | Unknown | SMOOT | Unknown | M | 1,016 | 1,032 | 08171921.txt | 872 | 150 |
670,079,971 | Mr. President. I wish to ask the Senator from Michigan a question.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 121 | Mr. CURTIS | Unknown | CURTIS | Unknown | M | 1,041 | 1,042 | 08171921.txt | 66 | 12 |
670,079,972 | Does the Senator from Michigan yield to the Senator from Kansas?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 122 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 1,043 | 1,044 | 08171921.txt | 64 | 11 |
670,079,973 | Certainly.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 123 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,045 | 1,045 | 08171921.txt | 10 | 1 |
670,079,974 | As I understand it. if the Senate agrees to the amendment reported from the committee by the Senator from Michigan. the original Senate bill No. 1072. the House substitute. :and the Senate amendment will all three be in conference?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 124 | Mr. CURTIS | Unknown | CURTIS | Unknown | M | 1,046 | 1,050 | 08171921.txt | 231 | 39 |
670,079,975 | That is theway I understand it.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 125 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,051 | 1,051 | 08171921.txt | 31 | 6 |
670,079,976 | May I ask the Presiding Officer if the amendment is still open to amendment?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 126 | Mr.CURTIS | Unknown | CURTIS | Unknown | M | 1,052 | 1,053 | 08171921.txt | 76 | 14 |
670,079,977 | The amendment is still open to amendment.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 127 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 1,054 | 1,055 | 08171921.txt | 41 | 7 |
670,079,978 | Mr. President. the amendment has not yet been read.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 128 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,056 | 1,057 | 08171921.txt | 51 | 9 |
670,079,979 | Yes. it was all read but the last page. I asked if it was desired to have that read. and no one asked for it. so I assumed that we were proceeding as if it had been read. It all appears in the REcoRD this morning.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 129 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,058 | 1,061 | 08171921.txt | 213 | 46 |
670,079,980 | May I ask the Senator from Wyoming a question? The Senator from Wyoming. as I understood him yesterday. gave notice that he intended to call up for consideration and passage today what has been called the emergency or delciency appropriation bill containing an appropriation with reference to the Shipping Board. May I inquire of the Senator whether it is his purpose to -call that up t6day. because I wish to warn him that if it is there will be very serious opposition?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 130 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,062 | 1,070 | 08171921.txt | 471 | 82 |
670,079,981 | Mr. President. I may say to the Senator that he is mistaken in saying that I :said I would call the bill up today and pass it today. because I expect the help of the Senator in some few remarks upon the bill which will probably take longer than we would have today. It is my purpose to bring the bill up for consideration in the Senate as :soon as the pending bill. and perhaps an important resolution now lying on the table. can be taken care of. The deficiency appropriation bill will undoubtedly have to be considered for some little time. because. judging from what has passed before. there is a great deal of just criticism of certain earlier expenditures. I wish that the Senator. if he will do so. being interested in the subject. would read the !Senate committee hearings which the Senatorno.w has rin his hand. That is one reason why I have delayed today any effort to get the bill up mntil other matters might be disposed of.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 131 | Mr. WARREN | Unknown | WARREN | Unknown | M | 1,071 | 1,100 | 08171921.txt | 935 | 172 |
670,079,982 | The Senator knows the hearings -were obtained just a few mbments ago.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 132 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,101 | 1,102 | 08171921.txt | 69 | 12 |
670,079,983 | They were obtained this morning.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 133 | Mr. WARREN | Unknown | WARREN | Unknown | M | 1,103 | 1,103 | 08171921.txt | 32 | 5 |
670,079,984 | I telephoned for them this morning. and was unable to get them until I came to the Senate Chamber a few moments ago.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 134 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,104 | 1,106 | 08171921.txt | 116 | 23 |
670,079,985 | Mr. President. what bill is the Senator discussing?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 135 | Mr. SIMMONS | Unknown | SIMMONS | Unknown | M | 1,107 | 1,108 | 08171921.txt | 51 | 8 |
670,079,986 | The emergency Shipping Board appropriation bill or deficiency appropriation bill. May I inquire of the Senator from Kansas or any member of the Committee on Appropriations if there is any purpose to attempt to call .up today what is known as the dye bill. the emergency tariff bill? I wish to warn the Senator that there will be opposition to that.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 136 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,109 | 1,115 | 08171921.txt | 348 | 61 |
670,079,987 | The Senator has the right to oppose any measure he pleases.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 137 | Mr. CURTIS | Unknown | CURTIS | Unknown | M | 1,116 | 1,117 | 08171921.txt | 59 | 11 |
670,079,988 | I wish to be fair with the Senator and let him know he can not get it through in a hurry.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 138 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,118 | 1,119 | 08171921.txt | 89 | 21 |
670,079,989 | The Senator from Kansas is not in charge of the bill. I understand the Senator refers to the emergency tariff bill. which includes dyestuffs. but I understood from the Senator from North Dakota that it is his desire at the first opportunity to call up that bill for consideration.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 139 | Mr. CURTIS | Unknown | CURTIS | Unknown | M | 1,120 | 1,125 | 08171921.txt | 280 | 49 |
670,079,990 | There will be no effort to supplant the road bill now before theSenate?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 140 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,126 | 1,127 | 08171921.txt | 71 | 13 |
670,079,991 | No effort has been made up to date to do so.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 141 | Mr. CURTIS | Unknown | CURTIS | Unknown | M | 1,128 | 1,128 | 08171921.txt | 44 | 11 |
670,079,992 | I may say that the Senator from Michigan will not consent to that if he can prevent it. It was declared that there would be no effort to interfere with the consideration of the good roads bill. That is the thing that is disturbing the Senator from Michigan more than anything else. He is not disturbed over the prospect of some other bill supplanting that measure.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 142 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,129 | 1,135 | 08171921.txt | 364 | 66 |
670,079,993 | I wish to assure the Senator that I shall support his effort to prevent a substitution of either of the other measures for the one he is so ably championing.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 143 | Mr. KING | Unknown | KING | Unknown | M | 1,136 | 1,138 | 08171921.txt | 157 | 30 |
670,079,994 | There is no likelihood that that will be done.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 144 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,139 | 1,140 | 08171921.txt | 46 | 9 |
670,079,995 | Mr. President. may I ask the Senator from Michigan a question?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 145 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,141 | 1,142 | 08171921.txt | 62 | 11 |
670,079,996 | I yield to the Senator from Arkansas.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 146 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,143 | 1,143 | 08171921.txt | 37 | 7 |
670,079,997 | On page 10 of the amendment. section 10 provides: rhat before any p roject shall be approved by the commission of any State such State shall make provision for State funds required each year of such State by this act for construction and reconstruction of highways. and shall also make adequate provision for maintenance of all Federalaid highways within the State. Under the provisions of that section we could not comply with the provisions of the amendment in my State. If the Senator could accept an amendment which would read " such State or subdivision thereof." we would be able to do so. because we make our improvements in oir States by improvement districts. The State is without power under the constitution to accumulate a State fund. That question was discussed before. and I understood there was an amendment to be offered to the bill that would cure that.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 147 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,144 | 1,159 | 08171921.txt | 870 | 149 |
670,079,998 | Mr. President. may I interrupt the Senator and ask him to read section 27 of the amendment?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 148 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,160 | 1,161 | 08171921.txt | 91 | 17 |
670,079,999 | I have read that. It gives us two years.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 149 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,162 | 1,162 | 08171921.txt | 40 | 9 |
670,080,000 | That is the extent of the appropriation.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 150 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,163 | 1,163 | 08171921.txt | 40 | 7 |
670,080,001 | I wish to say toothe Senator from Michigan that the people of the State of Arkansas have three times passed upon a proposed change in our constitution that would permit the raising of funds by the State at large. and each time it has been defeated by an overwhelming uimjority of the people. There is no reason to believe that the people desire to change the constitution. but we can meet the situation by inserting the words " or subdivision thereof." because we meet our State appropriations for improvement of highways by subdivisions of the State known as improvement districts. I should like to call it to the attention of the Senator at this time and a little later on offer such an amendment. if it meets with his approval.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 151 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,164 | 1,176 | 08171921.txt | 730 | 130 |
670,080,002 | I hope the Senator will not feel the necessity of presenting such an amendment. because one of the things that has been contended for before the committee and before the House and that is strongly contended for by the highway department and the Secretary of Agriculture and that is mentioned by the President is that we shall deal with the States in making these appropriations. We have extended that by frequently giving the States an opportunity to amend their constitutions. The Senator said his State has not done so. We provide that during the life of the appropriation the money call be raised just as it is now.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 152 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,177 | 1,188 | 08171921.txt | 618 | 108 |
670,080,003 | I understand that.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 153 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,189 | 1,189 | 08171921.txt | 18 | 3 |
670,080,004 | So that takes care of it. I dislike very much to recognize that principle. because I think it is a vicious principle. I think it is a mistake generally to allow the Federal money to be pporated among those counties which can afford to meet the expense and only those counties get the money.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 154 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,190 | 1,194 | 08171921.txt | 290 | 54 |
670,080,005 | The Senator does not understand the conditions in our State. because the money does not go to tile counties at all. There is not anything in our State constitution or our laws to prevent dealing directly with the highway department. We nmet the provisions of the old bill. but there is no provision at all under our constitution whereby we can raise State funds for the construction or maintenance of public highways. We have to do that by subdivisions of the State known as improvement districts. The people after all must be the judge of whether they want to amend the constitution or not. and they have declined to do it. There was a reason. for that rests upon the conditions which existed just after the Civil War. when every subdivision of the State was bonded until it was bankrupt by a government that was not of the. people. so when they rewrote the constitution they hedged against that condition ever arising again. and they are still reluctant to change it and will not do it. I do not think the Federal Government ought to try to coerce a State into chauging its constitution. If the State is able to meet the conditions of the Federal Government by subdivisions of the State meeting the requirements. it ought not be required to change its constitution and its whole organic law to meet an act of Congress in order to be treated fairly. as. other States are treated.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 155 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,195 | 1,218 | 08171921.txt | 1,380 | 246 |
670,080,006 | This bill does not provide that the appropriation may not go to the Senators State.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 156 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,219 | 1,220 | 08171921.txt | 83 | 15 |
670,080,007 | Under this provision our State could share in the appropriation for two years. but we are now writing a general law. and at the expiration of two years-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 157 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,221 | 1,223 | 08171921.txt | 152 | 28 |
670,080,008 | It will be necessary to make another appropriation at the end of one year. and in the appropriation which we nmake next -year we cni provide such terms for its distribution as we wish. but I thinic that we are caring for everything in the pending. bill. This is a provision that has been agreed to. There was an even more drastic provision in the House bill than is inserted here. We eliminated the provision in reference to it being necessary for States to amend their constitutions in order to get the benefit of the appropriation.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 158 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,224 | 1,233 | 08171921.txt | 533 | 96 |
670,080,009 | I know that.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 159 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,234 | 1,234 | 08171921.txt | 12 | 3 |
670,080,010 | And we provided simply how the money which goes to the States should be uet under present conditions for two years.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 160 | Mr. TOWNSENO | Unknown | TOWNSENO | Unknown | M | 1,235 | 1,237 | 08171921.txt | 115 | 21 |
670,080,011 | Let me ask the Senator from Michigan will not section 10 of the pending bill. if we adopt it. be the law of the land at the end of two years?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 161 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,238 | 1,240 | 08171921.txt | 141 | 31 |
670,080,012 | Yes. but it would be of no use unless an appropriation was made to carry it out.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 162 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,241 | 1,242 | 08171921.txt | 80 | 17 |
670,080,013 | I know that. but the appropriation would be made subject to the provisions of existing law. and we could not. therefore. share in an appropriation made under this proposed act after the expiration of two years.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 163 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,243 | 1,246 | 08171921.txt | 210 | 36 |
670,080,014 | There will be some States which will have complied with the law. Take Louisiana. for instance. which is in very similar condition to the State of Arkansas. Louisiana has already practically made the necessary provision in her law. and it will be in operation before the two years shall have expired.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 164 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,247 | 1,252 | 08171921.txt | 299 | 51 |
670,080,015 | But the people .of my State have not seen fit to do that. and Congress has no right to coerce them.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 165 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,253 | 1,254 | 08171921.txt | 99 | 21 |
670,080,016 | The Senator may make that argument when similar legislation comes up the next time providing for another appropriation.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 166 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,255 | 1,257 | 08171921.txt | 119 | 18 |
670,080,017 | But this bill will then be the law. the appropriations will be made subject to existing law. and this will not then be an open question.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 167 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,258 | 1,260 | 08171921.txt | 136 | 26 |
670,080,018 | I should myself *object to a general liardandfast law covering all time. which would permit the State of Arkansas. which I think has suffered considerably through the lack of sufficient authority under her constitution to properly handle road funds-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 168 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,261 | 1,265 | 08171921.txt | 249 | 39 |
670,080,019 | I think the Senator from Michigan is making that charge without any evidence at all to support it. I have heard the loose charge made that the Federal funds were wasted. but there is no man who lives who can produce a single iota of evidence to support it. I have myself investigated that charge. I do not think that Congress ought to try to coerce the States and say to a State. " If you do not change your constitution and accept our views. we are not going to let you be treated as other States are treated. we are going to deny you the appropriation." I do not think the Senator from Michigan ought to take that position.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 169 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,266 | 1,288 | 08171921.txt | 625 | 120 |
670,080,020 | I will say to the Senator that I feel that the Federal Government should and must insist upon the right of seeing that the Federal money is properly expended. and. as I before stated. expended for a Federal purpose. If the laws of the State of Arkansas are such that the money proposed to be appropriated by the pending measure has got to be prorated upon the counties of the State without any regard to a system-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 170 | Mr. TOWNSEND | Unknown | TOWNSEND | Unknown | M | 1,289 | 1,296 | 08171921.txt | 413 | 77 |
670,080,021 | I have told the Senator from Michigan that there is not any such law as that in my .State and that there is not any such practice as that. The counties in my State do not have anything to do with the matter. the money does not go to the counties. If the Senator from Michigan has obtained any such information as that. he has been erroneously informend. The improvement of public highways in my State is made bywhat are called improvement districts. Those districts may be a part of a county or may embrace several counties. They are merely subdivisions of the State for administrative purposes. Our constitution would not permit us to manage the matter otherwise. Our people in their wisdom have seen fit not to change their constitution. and I do not think Congress has any right to try to coerce them into changing their constitution.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 171 | Mr. CARAWAY | Unknown | CARAWAY | Unknown | M | 1,297 | 1,311 | 08171921.txt | 837 | 149 |
670,080,022 | I ask leave to present two petitions and. by request. I ask that they be printed in the RECORD and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 172 | Mr. HALE | Unknown | HALE | Unknown | M | 1,320 | 1,322 | 08171921.txt | 146 | 27 |
670,080,023 | I move that the Senate concur in the amendment of the House. I will simply state that the resolution as passed by the Senate provided for the printing of 15.000 copies of the tariff bill with an index. The House has amended the resolution by providing for only 6.000 copies. and we shall try to get along with 6.000. Therefore I move that the Senate concur in the House amendment.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 173 | Mr. SMOOT | Unknown | SMOOT | Unknown | M | 1,453 | 1,459 | 08171921.txt | 380 | 70 |
670,080,024 | The Chair lays before the Senate the action of the House of Representatives on the amendments of the Senate to House bill 7294. which will be read. The Assistant Secretary read as follows:
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 174 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 1,462 | 1,465 | 08171921.txt | 188 | 33 |
670,080,025 | Mr. President. it appears that the action of the House of Representatives. as stated in the message which has just been read. was taken before the appointment by the House of the conferees who are named in the message. I move that the Senate disagree to the amendments -of the House to Senate amendments numbered 10. 15. and 32.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 175 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,526 | 1,531 | 08171921.txt | 328 | 59 |
670,080,026 | The question is oin the motion of the Senator from South Dalcota.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 176 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 1,532 | 1,533 | 08171921.txt | 65 | 12 |
670,080,027 | May I ask the Senator from South Dakota what action. if any. the House of Representatives took upon the amendment which I submitted. and which was adopted by hli Senate -unanimously. relating to the return to the United States of certain liquors of American manufacture?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 177 | Mr. WADSWORTH | Unknown | WADSWORTH | Unknown | M | 1,534 | 1,538 | 08171921.txt | 270 | 45 |
670,080,028 | I i understand that the House did not disagree to that amendment. I think it is understood by the conferees on the part of the House that that amendment shall stand.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 178 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,539 | 1,542 | 08171921.txt | 165 | 31 |
670,080,029 | I will ask the Senator to explain to the Senato just what the parliamentary situation is now with respect to the bill.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 179 | Mr. WADSWORTH | Unknown | WADSWORTH | Unknown | M | 1,543 | 1,545 | 08171921.txt | 118 | 22 |
670,080,030 | The parliamentary situation. as I u1nderstand. is this-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 180 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,546 | 1,547 | 08171921.txt | 55 | 8 |
670,080,031 | Mr. President. I rise to a question of order.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 181 | Mr. BRA-INDEGEE | Unknown | BRA-INDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,548 | 1,549 | 08171921.txt | 45 | 9 |
670,080,032 | OFFICER. The Senator will state his question of order.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 182 | The IRESIDING | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 1,550 | 1,551 | 08171921.txt | 54 | 9 |
670,080,033 | I assume that this natter can only come up at this time by unanimous consent.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 183 | Mr. IRANDEGEE | Unknown | IRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,552 | 1,553 | 08171921.txt | 77 | 15 |
670,080,034 | It can be presented. but can not be proceeded with if it is objected to.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 184 | Mr. WAJREN | Unknown | WAJREN | Unknown | M | 1,554 | 1,555 | 08171921.txt | 72 | 15 |
670,080,035 | It is a message from the House. The Senator from South Dakota is Making a motion about a matter which comes over fro1m0 the House while there is another bill before the Senate.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 185 | Mr. BRANDEGEE | Unknown | BRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,556 | 1,559 | 08171921.txt | 176 | 33 |
670,080,036 | If objection is made-
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 186 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 1,560 | 1,560 | 08171921.txt | 21 | 4 |
670,080,037 | Reserving the right to object. I should like to have the Senator from South Dakota answer the question of the Senator from New York in order that we may obtain some information from the Senator regarding the situation. I reserve the right to object.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 187 | Mr. BRANDEGEE | Unknown | BRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,561 | 1,565 | 08171921.txt | 249 | 44 |
670,080,038 | I have given tse Senator from New York my understanding of the situation in -regard to the amendiment to which lie has referred.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 188 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,566 | 1,568 | 08171921.txt | 128 | 23 |
670,080,039 | The Seniator from New York just asked the Senator from South Dakota what the parliamentary situation was.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 189 | Mr. BRANDEGEE | Unknown | BRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,569 | 1,571 | 08171921.txt | 105 | 17 |
670,080,040 | The pirlimlllelItary situation. as I understand. is this: The Senate has appointed its conferees upon this bill. and those conferees are now in session with the conferees On tie part of the Iouse appointed in pursuance of the action of the House. as set forth in the message just read by the Seeretary. Of course. this action having been taken by the House itself since final action of the Senate on the bill. I think it necessitates action now upon the part of the Senate disagreeing to the action of the House in amending certain amendments made by the Senate.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 190 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,572 | 1,582 | 08171921.txt | 562 | 100 |
670,080,041 | Mr. President. how does it happen that the Senate appointed managers of a conference on the part of the Senate before the House disagreed to the Senate amendments and when. therefore. there was no disagreement between the two Houses?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 191 | Mr. BRANDEGEE | Unknown | BRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,583 | 1,587 | 08171921.txt | 233 | 39 |
670,080,042 | A conference was requested at the time of the passage of the bill. The motion was that the Senate request a conference with the House on the bill and amendments and that the Chair appoint the conferees on the part of the Senate. It was the usual motion which. as I understand. is made in all such cases where a House bill is amended by the Senate. as was done in this case.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 192 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,588 | 1,594 | 08171921.txt | 373 | 73 |
670,080,043 | And the conferees have been in session?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 193 | Mr. BRANDEGEE | Unknown | BRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,595 | 1,595 | 08171921.txt | 39 | 7 |
670,080,044 | They are in session now. and they were in session when this message was brought to their attention.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 194 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,596 | 1,597 | 08171921.txt | 99 | 18 |
670,080,045 | I have no objection to disagreeing to the House amendments to the Senate amendments.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 195 | Mr. BRANDEGEE | Unknown | BRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,598 | 1,599 | 08171921.txt | 84 | 14 |
670,080,046 | The conferees are engaged in considering the amendments. especially amendment No. 32 and the House amendment to that amendment.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 196 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,600 | 1,602 | 08171921.txt | 127 | 19 |
670,080,047 | The question is on the motion of the Senator from South Dakota.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 197 | The PRESIDING OFFICER | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Special | 1,603 | 1,604 | 08171921.txt | 63 | 12 |
670,080,048 | Mr. President. it seems to me. irrespective of the merits of the original bill or of the amendments which have been made to it. that the Senate is confronted with a very peculiar situation. The Senate adopted a number of amendments to the bill in the usual fashion. it requested a conference with the House and oppointed its conferees. Now. before the conferees of the Senate have met with the conferees of the House. the House proceeds to accept certain amendments and to suggest other amendments to the Senate amendments. Are not our conferees now clothed with complete authority to discuss that matter with the House conferees? Is it the part of wisdom for the Senate to proceed with action concerning amendments to this bill before its own conferees have made any report to it whatsoever? In other words. is the Senate prepared to go into joint conference with the full miembership of the House? That is what this amounts to. as I understand. Of course. it is due to the peculiar result of the new House rules. but we clothed our conferees with power to represent us and before they have had an opportunity to represent us at all the Senate is asked to accept certain House action. I think it is not .a proper attitude for the Senate to assume in support of its own prestige and power.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 198 | Mr. WADSWORTH | Unknown | WADSWORTH | Unknown | M | 1,605 | 1,626 | 08171921.txt | 1,289 | 230 |
670,080,049 | Mr. President. the conferees. of course. were clothed with the power under the action of the Senate to insist upon the amendments made by the Senate. That is what the pending motion amounts to. that we disagree now to the alhendmelnts made by the House to the amendments made by the Senate. The conferees on the part of the Senate were appointed under a motion involving that action.
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 199 | Mr. STERLING | Unknown | STERLING | Unknown | M | 1,627 | 1,633 | 08171921.txt | 383 | 68 |
670,080,050 | Will the Senator answer me this question? If the Senate adopted certain amendments and then insisted upon its amendments and asked the House to agree to a conference and the House has appointed its conferees and the Senate has appointed its conferees. why do we need to disagree to some amendments that the House has made?
| S | "1921-08-17T00:00:00" | 200 | Mr. BRANDEGEE | Unknown | BRANDEGEE | Unknown | M | 1,634 | 1,639 | 08171921.txt | 322 | 56 |