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We would have to undertake to provide that to you because it is broken down in each of the different program areas by program, and transitionally during the course of the year, with some of them, we hope to be able to finish paying the GNWT and have our offices set up but we have entered into the agreements for the full year just in case it takes us that length of time.
Chairperson (interpretation): Are you finished Mr. Akesuk?
Mr. Chairman, I want to get back to the Gun Bill.
I understand what Mr. Tootoo is saying and we know that there is a lot of concern out there regarding the Bill.
I know in my community there have been many comments and concerns raised.
I guess at this point, given the fact that we have other parties that are, sort of, they are already trying to deal with this and hopefully we will find out over the next few months as to what the end result will be, I am not sure that money will be wisely spent right now.
I guess the train is already heading down the track and somebody else is paying for the gas we should just look forward to it getting to it’s destination.
My concern right now is the problem we have in the meantime in people trying to get their guns registered.
It is an ongoing problem and I think if we are going to spend four or five hundred thousand dollars maybe we could spend it helping the people in the communities to get some type of assistance to deal with the paperwork.
I am not saying that we shouldn’t, I guess, deal with the Gun Bill through the court, but at this point in time, while others are doing it, we may be better off trying to help the various people trying to deal with this paperwork that they have so much difficulty with.
Chairperson (interpretation): Who would like to respond?
Hon. Jack Anawak: That is why I was trying to point out that some of this I might have been able to answer if I had been able to meet with Anne McLellan, the Minister of Justice, and I wasn’t able to meet with her because she was attending the funeral of that young man who was shot in a high school. So all I am saying is that as soon as I am able to meet with the Minister of Justice, we will be discussing those very things and I thank the Member for his questions.
Chairperson (interpretation): Do you have anything further Mr. O'Brien?
Mr. O'Brien: No that’s all I have to say at this point.
Mr. Chairman I wonder if it is time to move on to line by line.
Chairperson (interpretation): If there are no further comments, yes we can go line by line.
Are there any comments?
Just in case we adjourn early I would like to take a ten minute break.
>>Committee recesses for ten minutes
Chairperson (interpretation): Please get back to your seats.
Is anybody missing?
We will go on with our business.
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): For information purposes for Mr. Akesuk the contracts that we have total $3,983,563. These are the contracts that we have. I apologize for something I said earlier.
We are not paying for the Federal inmates.
It is the Federal Government that pays for the services.
I thought we were paying for the whole Justice Services, but for the Federal legislation, we are not paying for any Federal. inmates.
Oh I am sorry, when I was talking about the amount of money we were spending on the inmates, I may have inadvertently said something wrong here.
Regarding the Federal inmates, the Government of Nunavut is not putting any money into the Federal inmates.
That is paid for by the Government of Canada.
(interpretation) Mr. Chairman if it is ok with you I would like to recognize two people who are here.
I would like to acknowledge Nicole Campaugh.
She was from Rankin Inlet but she moved to Yellowknife and another person who is here from Rankin Inlet, Mayor of Rankin Inlet, Simon Okpatauyak.
I would like to welcome you to this session.
We can go on line by line.
For the main estimates for the year 99/2000.
Page 5-4 Directorate. Directorate.
Did you find the page?
Directorate. Total operations and Maintenance $1,352,000.00.
Total Capital nil.
Total expenditures $1,352,000.00, Agreed?
Chairperson (interpretation): Law Enforcement. Operations and Maintenance $14,396,000.
Total Expenditures $14,396,000. Agreed?
Chairperson (interpretation): Legal Services Board. Operations and Maintenance Total $2,865,000.00.
Capital nil.
Total Expenditures $2,865,000.00. Agreed?
Chairperson (interpretation): Lawyers Support Services Operations and Maintenance $1,236,000.00.
Total Expenditures $1,236,000.00. Agreed?
Chairperson (interpretation): Registries and Court Services. Operations and Maintenance $4,223,000.00.
Total Expenditures $4,223,000.00. Agreed?
Chairperson (interpretation): Community Justice/Corrections Operations and Maintenance $12,926,000.00.
In the middle one under Grants and Contributions – $510,000.00. I would like to get further clarification on what that is for.
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): Yes. This $510,000.00 is for the communities.
It is the community Justice Program.
Perhaps I will talk a little bit about that issue.
In Baffin Region $215,000.00.
Kitikmeot $94,000.00 and Keewatin $13,000.00 Total, $440,500.00.
But the difference, the remaining funds could be used for Victim Assistance Programs.
This $440,500.00 will be used for community justice programs but the remainder will be for the victims; $60.000.00.
Is that clear now?
Chairperson (interpretation): Mr. Iqaqrialu if you could look at the last page.
In the details of Grants and Contributions there is detailed information here.
Which page are you on?
5-11, Details of Grants and Contributions. Page 5-11.
The detailed information is in that page. Contributions for Community Justice Initiatives.
Every year sometimes the justice system expenditures differ from year to year, and at times we spend a smaller amount than previous years.
So I was wondering what you do with the surplus if you happen to have a surplus within a fiscal year.
Minister Anawak.  Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): Regarding the $440,000.00 that is geared towards community justice programs, if there was a surplus from that program, we would not take it back.
They would keep it.
But I could give you detailed information as to what is allowed to the communities on these funds that are allotted to community justice programs.
Perhaps, I apologize, I would like Ms. Sanders to explain this.
Chairperson (interpretation): Go ahead Ms. Sanders.
Ms. Sanders (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) Each of the community contributions to the Justice Committees that we have allocated this year are the same as they received last year.
We are also negotiating today and tomorrow with Justice Canada to see if they will match that funding.
That is not a definite thing yet but we are quite optimistic about that.
So that would increase the amount for each community.
But it is not a decrease, it is the same amount that they had last year and each committee is allocated the amounts based on the size of their community and the activity of their Justice Committee, but that is to support the work of the Justice Committee in each community.
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): In view of these court system changes perhaps we are now trying to give more responsibility to the community justice committees.
Although this fund is now $440,500.00 if it is possible to get additional funding from the Federal Government we will work harder to get the amount larger next year.
The community justice committees, I don’t know if they are paid honoraria when they deal with these issues. If this includes the JP's.
I don’t know if the JP's get honoraria or if they are paid.
I think everyone has to have a clear understanding including myself and my constituency as to what kind of Operations and Maintenance they have for each community.
This is self explanatory but I don’t know especially in our community if we have a justice program in our community so I will look into it.
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): When the funding is allotted to the communities, the community justice committee, it is up to their discretion as to how much they would expend there is no criteria given to the committees in the communities.
Chairperson (interpretation): Yes, in regards to Mr. Iqaqrialus' comment it would be easier to understand if it was that way.
Mr. Chairman, this is the area that deals with the correctional, in paying for the inmates that we send over to YCC and that area. Is that the amount included in the other O&M, in the 6.8 million.
I just wanted to get clarification on that?
Hon. Jack Anawak: The budget for offenders held in the NWT is;
Adult male offenders, $4,281,000.00.
Female offenders $241,000.00, and
Young Offenders, $603,000.00 for a
total of $5, 125,000.00 in terms of spending on all the offenders  based in the NWT,
Mr. Chairman I wonder if the amount allocated in the budget takes into consideration the fee that we get charged from the Government of the Northwest Territories only in that area.
I was wondering if that is what is budgeted in there.
Ms. Sanders: These budget amounts are not all being paid to the GNWT. We are not committed to paying those to the NWT.
If there were fewer inmates placed in the west or if we were able to establish alternative placements here, including camp placements some of that money could be used for that purpose and we will be working to do that.
But at any given time we may have as many offenders there as we have here because of the lack of capacity to be here.
Chairperson (interpretation): Mr. Tootoo
What I was trying to get at was that I had heard that the budget amounts for the departments that, like the costs that were being charged by the GNWT for the service has been budgeted but the costs of travel and the travel for the staff and the time for the staff were not taken into consideration.
I was wondering if that was something that was added on to after or if it has indeed been something that was overlooked.
Ms. Sanders (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) Apparently those calculations were estimated as part of the budgets for the Corrections facility here.
That is where the transportation costs for the inmates were included and we are hoping that they will be adequate.
And to proceed.
The total operations and maintenance is $12,926,000.00.
Capital plans.
The total capital budget is $313,000.00. Are you agreed?
In the total expenditures for Community Justice and Corrections $13,239,00.00.
The report, the community justice and Corrections in respect to the Baffin Correctional Centre in the Baffin Region.
Total Capital is $313,000.00.
Do you agree? Agreed.
The Details of Grants and Contributions.
This is mainly an information item. Are you agreed?
Since there were no nays.
I would like to return to page 5-3.
The Detail of Expenditure Page 199/2000.
The total Operations and Maintenance – in respect to the Details of Expenditures, the total Operations and Maintenance budget is $36,998,000.00 Are you agreed?
The total capital budget is $313,000.00.
Are you agreed? Agreed.
Total Expenditures for this fiscal year, is $37,311,000.00 are you agreed?
Our meeting is ended please leave.
Thank you Minister Jack Anawak and your officials.
Are you agreed that the Departments budget items are completed?
Thank you Minister Anawak and your senior officials, Nora Sanders and the other staff.
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Friday, May 21st, 8.30 in the morning regular caucus, Parish Hall.  Friday, May 21, 1999
Second Reading of Bills:
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters:
Speaker (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Clerk the House is now adjourned until Friday May 21, 1999 at 10 o'clock.
Sergeant at Arms.
>>House Adjourned at 4.35 pm
DAY 8
FRIDAY, MAY 21, 1999
Pages 260 - 277
Prayer 260  Ministers' Statements 260
Members' Statements 261
Returns to Oral Questions 265
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery 266
Oral Questions 266
Tabling of Documents 271
Second Reading of Bills 271
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters 274
Orders of the Day 275
Friday May 21, 1999 260
MINISTERS' STATEMENTS  14 - 1 (2): Nunavut Governments' Commitment to Elders (Havioyak) 260
MEMBERS' STATEMENTS  49 - 1 (2): Importance of Decentralized Government (O'Brien) 262
50 - 1 (2): Disorders of the Day, May 20 (Picco) 262
51 - 1 (2): Payroll Deductions, Nunavut Teachers and Staff (Puqiqnak) 263
52 - 1 (2): Congratulations on Success of Session (Anawak) 263
53 - 1 (2): Safe Journey to Travelling Members (Tootoo) 264
54 - 1 (2): Confusing Oil Smell (Thompson) 264
55 - 1 (2): Success of Session, Thanks to Members (Alakannuark) 264
56 - 1 (2): Learning from Mistakes (Iqaqrialu) 264
57 - 1 (2): Apologies to Constituents, Safe Journey to Travelling Members (Kilabuk) 265
5 - 1 (2): Question 48 - 1 (2) Consulting Contract, Department of Health (Picco) 265
67 - 1 (2): Translation of Legislation (Akesuk) 267
68 - 1 (2): Business Incentive Policy (O'Brien) 267
69 - 1 (2): Transfer of Staff from GNWT to Nunavut Government (Puqiqnak) 268
70 - 1 (2): Eligibility for Nunavut Government Staff Housing (Tootoo) 269
12 - 1 (2): Inuit Educators (McLean) 271
13 - 1 (2): Adult Education Building Baker Lake (McLean) 271
14 - 1 (2): Inuit Heritage Centre Baker Lake (McLean) 271
SECOND READING OF BILLS
Bill 2 - Boards of Management Dissolution Act (Picco) 271
Bill 3 - Divisional Education Councils Dissolution Act (Arvaluk) 273  Friday May 21, 1999
Friday May 21, 1999
Speaker (interpretation): Mr. O'Brien could you say the prayer please.
Thank you Mr. O'Brien.
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Ministers' Statement 14 - 1 (2): Nunavut Governments' Commitment to Elders
I want to share with you our Departments' commitment to help our Elders in Nunavut.
Elders are a very special group of people in our Inuit society.
Our culture is a verbal one.
We never had a writing system.
Our knowledge about our culture and language is passed on through generations of Inuit, thousands of years ago.
Our Elders are a walking history.
Their knowledge is filled with Inuktitut and Inuinnaqtun words that are unknown to our younger society.
They are passed on to us through legends, spirituality, shamanism, and Inuit traditional songs or Phihiit.
The Inuit ways must not be allowed to disappear. Uqartii, we must always remember the fact that, it is because of our Elders that we are here today.
We owe much to our Elders in Nunavut.
We owe them for their compassion, love, guidance, caring, wisdom and knowledge.
We have to make sure that we start to recognize them as our Professors. Uqartii, as a Minister responsible for our Elders, I am going to work to the best of my ability in promoting awareness for these Older Persons.
I would like all of you to help me.
I would like to see these Elders take their rightful place once again in our everyday society in Nunavut, by being able to lead our Youth for the future.
Uqartii, in November 1998 , we gathered 26 Elders and 26 Youth in Iqaluktuuttiaq (Cambridge Bay) for the first time in our Nunavut history.
If there was one thing we've established out of this important conference, it was better communication between our Elders and Youth.
That is the way is used to be and that is what it must be today and in the future.
Our Government is committed to continue this dialogue between these two groups.
Our Department is committed to continue these annual conferences.
We must place a high priority to our Elders.
Mr. Speaker, each time an Elder dies, he or she takes with them a whole lot of knowledge about Inuit/Inuinnaqtun culture and language.
It is urgent that all of us in Nunavut begin to utilize these people.
Our Government is committed to looking what ways of how we can better utilize our Elders.
One of the recommendations that was made by the Iqaluktuttiaq Conference was that a need to establish a Nunavut-wide Elders and Youth Council, which would represent the needs and interests of our Elders and Youth, in this ever changing society.
Uqartii, I have asked my Department to look into the possibility of establishing this important initiative.
I have asked my department to start to assembly and collect the oral history of our Nunavut Elders and resources which document the history of Nunavut.
Mr. Speaker, much of this materials exists in different locations across the country and it is time to bring it home.
Doing this is not a luxury - it is something we must do.
Uqartii, I believe and I trust the members here will all share this belief - that our history and our culture is what makes us strong.
It is what must be taught to our youth by Elders and in the education system, if our youth are to be proud, knowledgeable and informed about where we have come from. In this fashion, they will have a clearer vision of where we need to go.
Uqartii, ahiitlu Katimamajiuqatitka, I am proud to recognize the importance of my Department recording and developing the cultural and historical record on which our Nunavut Territory is based.
In the meantime, I would like to take this opportunity in thanking all of our Elders in Nunavut for their hard work, contribution to our lives, wisdom, guidance and traditional knowledge.
Let me be heard by the population of Nunavut, that our Government is committed to work towards a betterment of our Elders.
We must make sure that we start to utilize them in promoting Inuit Qaujimajatunqangit.
That is the way it should be.
Quana, Uqartii.
Orders of the Day, Item 3, Members' Statements.
Members' Statement 49 - 1 (2): Importance of Decentralized Government
Mr. Speaker for over 25 years the people of the eastern Arctic have been planning and working toward the realization of having their own government.
The dream of Nunavut holds many promises and benefits for its people.
There are a number of items that have been incorporated into the governments plans and policies, one of which is the Inuit Qaujimanituqangit initiative, which would see the various government departments incorporate Inuit traditional knowledge and ways into the chemistry of each department.
Mr. Speaker, another, more far reaching and tangible concept is to have a decentralized government that would bring the government closer to the people which would provide many benefits such as real community empowerment, responsibility and much needed employment.
Mr. Speaker for twenty some years the power of control rested far away from small Nunavut communities.
That power base was Yellowknife and thus one of the reasons for this new government of Nunavut, a government closer to the people.
Mr. Speaker this brings me to my main point.
The people in the smaller, less fortunate Hamlets of Nunavut have been promised a decentralized government.
A government closer to the people.
Mr. Speaker a decision not to have a decentralized government would be unfair, misleading and would create doubt in the real meaning of Nunavut.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, some people in this government may say we cannot afford a decentralized government.
Mr. Speaker, I say we cannot afford not to have a decentralized government.
Speaker (interpretation): Members' Statements, Mr. Picco.
Members' Statement 50 - 1 (2): Disorders of the Day, May 20
Mr. Speaker, traditionally Fridays members make statements of a lighter or more humorous note.
I am not able to do that today, as I have to speak to the serious concern that occurred yesterday in this house.
Mr. Speaker, as indicated in Hansard, on our Orders of the Day, number 16, Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills, and number 18, First Reading of Bills, are very similar, Mr. Speaker, very similar.
After several days of practice, rehearsal and method acting training…
A Member: …didn't work
>>Laughter
Hon. Ed Picco: …I was able to pull off a totally realistic portrayal of a Minister mistaken in the Orders of the Day.
Indeed, Mr. Speaker, my portrayal was so realistic, Mr. Ng the House Leader, many of the members, the TV audience and, indeed the media, were fooled into thinking I didn't know the difference between number 16 and number 18.
Mr. Speaker, later today I will be prepared to give acting lessons to the members, and I will also take this opportunity to thank the members for your help and consideration on the process.
Mr. Speaker I will be picking up the Oscar on the break later today and I invite the members to attend with me.
Speaker (interpretation): Members' Statements, Mr. Puqiqnak.
Members' Statement 51 - 1 (2): Payroll Deductions, Nunavut Teachers and Staff
As we are a new government we are going to be asking a lot of questions about what we should be doing.
One of the questions that has been pointed out to me is that…(interpretation ends)…deductions which are going to the plans, like unemployment, Canada Pension Plan, retirement and so on.
This was done by the Government of the Northwest Territories, federal government before Nunavut became a reality.
Mr. Speaker, the teachers would like to know if the pension plans are going to be transferred over to the Government of Nunavut or if the teachers are going to start paying all over again. (interpretation) Mr. Speaker, these teachers are concerned about their seniority and starting all over again when they are transferred to the Nunavut Government.
Some of those teachers have been in their positions for 10 years and some for 20 years.
So they are concerned about losing out just because they have been transferred to the Nunavut Government.
It would be good if the teachers in my constituency could be reassured that they are not going to lose out.
Speaker (interpretation): Members' Statements. Mr. Anawak.
Members' Statement 52 - 1 (2): Congratulations on Success of Session
First I am very proud that this has been a very successful session of the Legislative Assembly this week.
I think that even though we have never really been involved in a Legislative Assembly, we should be proud of ourselves in the way we have conducted ourselves this week.
Even though we did some stumbling, overall I think this week has been a good beginning and we should all be proud of ourselves in our success this week.
I think it shows among the members that they have a sense of humour, they are willing to learn from their mistakes, and I would like to congratulate all the members for this successful week.
Speaker (interpretation): Members' Statements. Mr. Tootoo.
Members' Statement 53 - 1 (2): Safe Journey to Travelling Members
Mr. Speaker as one of the members that has not had to travel for this session and has had the luxury of being home with my family, I would like to wish all the rest of the members who will be leaving today a good journey home and that they enjoy the weekend with their families.
Have a safe trip, Thank you Mr. Speaker.
Speaker (interpretation): Members' Statements. Ms. Thompson.
Members' Statement 54 - 1 (2): Confusing Oil Smell
On Fridays sometimes we like to make light hearted comments or statements.
When we are coming in here to this meeting room we have to smell that oil.
Sometimes we started talking about something, for example, Mr. Iqaqrialu, and I think Mr. Picco, because he was getting dizzy on the oil smell, I think that's why he was making mistakes yesterday.
I hope that next week we'll come back with a clearer head.
>>Laugher, applause
Members' Statements. Mr. Alakannuark.
Members' Statement 55 - 1 (2): Success of Session, Thanks to Members
Our meeting has been very good this week and today I can see a lot of things that I didn't see yesterday.
I am a student now of this Legislative Assembly and I am getting younger.
About this oil smell that has been suffocating us, I think my wife is going to be able to smell the oil when I get home and whenever I go outside I smell that.
I would to thank everyone for an educational week and I think our future looks brighter than ever, especially for next week and I thank you for being able to take part in this exercise.
Members' Statements. Mr. Iqaqrialu.
Members' Statement 56 - 1 (2): Learning from Mistakes
Since I became a Member of the Legislative Assembly I still get these hot flashes and still get sweaty when I stand up to speak at the Legislative Assembly.
I am very proud to say I am getting more comfortable and learning from the mistakes that we sometimes make.
I would like to reassure my colleagues that we are allowed to make mistakes and we can learn from them.