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Mr. Alakannuark (interpretation): Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
So say I wanted to get a window or renovate the interior of the house, would I be requesting some money from that fund, from that program.
Hon. Manitok Thompson (interpretation): Yes.
There's also public housing 1 million 710 thousand dollars.
How many houses would that build.
For public housing, that 1 million 710 thousand would probably build perhaps seven or eight public houses.
On public housing, you mentioned seven maybe I might have missed it or where are these houses going.
In Kitikmeot region, there would be eight public housing units going to Pelly Bay and Taloyoak.
Mr. McLean: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to refer to pages 8-26 and 8-27 and 8-28.
Can the minister explain to me, I know I’m getting ahead of myself here but under 2003, 2004, 2005 there is nothing under public housing in any of the regions.
Is that because it hasn’t been decided yet or looked at and budgeted.
Mr. Darcy.
We’re a bit out of luck in that our A-26, A-27 and A-28 does have some public housing within each region with the exception of Kitikmeot in A-27, it does show up on A-28. I wouldn’t say there is a lot quite frankly but there is some under public housing.
Mr. McLean: I must have a different book, can you tell me what’s under public housing, under the Baffin region for 2002, and 2003 because I have nothing.
Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. McLean.
My book on A-26 on the very last line, Qikiqtaaluk region public housing 3 million 230, 1million 710, 760, 190. 2001 Capital Estimates.
Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. 2001-2002, A-26, I think is where the page was.
The question that Mr. McLean has is under A-26.
I was looking under a different line for it.
Under that, there seems to be a significant drop in public housing from 2002 and 2003, to 2003 and 2004, to 2004 and 2005, and 2005 and 2006.
It seems to be non-existent.
Is there a reason for that.
Or is it that numbers have plunked there or is that actual figures that’s going to be in public housing for those years.
Mr. Darcy: The function of the design of the 5-year plan was a declining balance over the 5 years. What we’ve elected to do for planning purposes as the Housing Corporation, is maintain some of the specific lines that are normally maintained for example the M&I line or the homeownership line.
We reduced the balance on the public housing line with the expectation that we'll talk about it as we come closer to the proper years as the years advance to moving up the public housing construction as we are able to under the budget or under the capital plan.
I think I understand that.
Our base funding isn't going to change hopefully in the next five years from what we get from the federal government and by what I'm reading into this is that there may be a shift, a total shift from public housing into other programs.
Is that what this is being done for.
Totally away from public housing to private homeownership.
I will get Mr. Darcy to answer the question.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Madam Minster.
The money that we get from the federal government as far as capital goes is exclusively to be used on our 3,226 public housing units, so it must go to the M&I line.
However, that money comes through and has to remain on M&I for the federal government.
All the rest of the money comes from the Nunavut Government, which would be factored in through the Nunavut Government capital plan.
So you see the dwindling off through the five years is being shown through the public housing line so that we can track how the current appropriations to the housing is set through the 5-year plan.
We're on page 26.
If there are no further comments let's go back to page, total Kitikmeot, on page 12-8.
Going back to page 12-8.
Total Kitikmeot region, 2 million 730 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total contributions, 14 million dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total capital expenditures, 14 million dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): The next page, 12-9 is information.
Are there any comments on the capital estimates for the Nunavut Housing Corporation.
Chairperson (interpretation): Let's go back to page 12-5.
Nunavut Housing Corporation program summary. Detail of expenditures. Total capital expenditures, 14 million dollars.
Are we on page 12-5.
Mr. Puqiqnak (interpretation): Mr. Chairman, I'm sorry.
I would like to get clarification under contract services. There's no contract services there.
I wonder why. There's no contract services for 2001-2002. I just wanted to get clarification on page 12-5 why there's no contract services.
We don't understand his question.
I know the construction of these units will be contracted out.
I don't understand his question.
Maybe I misunderstood him.
When we go to the main estimates, you'll be seeing the contract services in the main estimates.
There are no contract services in the capital estimates.
They are in the main estimates.
The construction of the units will be contracted out, maybe I misunderstood him.
Under the capital estimates, we are on capital estimates.
Yes, I think his question is meaningful.
I was looking at the wrong estimates. It was my mistake.
Mr. Havioyak: We are on 12-5, 14 million in total for all of Nunavut.
It is insufficient funds.
How will the 14 million increase in terms of funding from the federal government.
Have they conversed with them so that it can increase.
How are they talking with their federal counterparts, whether it is CMHC so that next year these amounts could increase.
How are they communicating with those people.
I think this department is the one that gives you more headaches than all the other departments.
I know I am getting a headache from this.
Yes, as the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation to the best of my ability, I have been requesting more money from the federal government.
But we all understand there is no funding for public housing so we are looking for other options and my staff are working with the federal government officials continually.
We have made them understand that this is a crisis.
The housing shortage is a crisis.
Paul Quassa and I are working together.
Perhaps the Minister of DIAND Robert Nault will meet with us.
Paul Quassa and I have been strategizing, meeting with our counterparts because we're in a very serious housing shortage here in Nunavut.
Our federal counterparts are starting to understand the crisis.
We will continually work on it and we will not stop, as long as I am the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation.
We are page 12-5, 14 million dollars.
Perhaps housing is the same as building the schools in terms of being subject to building codes. Because of the building codes it makes everything more expensive to build a unit.
Did your department ever consider during the planning stages as to how to try perhaps lowering the building standard so that the individuals can start constructing their own units.
Have you ever considered that or is that in your planning stages.
I will ask Pam Hine to respond and the comment is very good and it is a very good question.
I will ask our President to respond.
Ms. Hine: The building code is actually a national standard so we don't have any flexibility in going below the building code.
However, we are working with Canada Mortgage and Housing. We are working in partnership with them.
They've put out terms of reference because they are taking a look at the cost of building in the north.
From that study they are hoping to find other ways to maybe be more cost effective.
So, we are working with CMHC in trying to deal with the high cost of construction in the north but the building code is a national standard, which is set by the federal government, so we don't have a lot of flexibility when it comes to that code.
Mr. Arvaluk: Is there anything at all you can do to allow energetic people of Nunavut to be able to design and construct their own houses.
Just have your National building codes in terms of electrical, plumbing and leave everything else to the homeowner that he or she would like to build.
Is there anything that you as a Housing Corporation can assist Nunavummiut to take that step.
Ms. Hine: Currently under the Nunavut down payment assistance program we do have people who have taken our downpayment assistance and have purchased the raw materials and are building their own homes under that program.
So it is available if they want.
They obviously would need to have the capability to do it.
It is a big task to undertake but it is available now and people are doing that.
That encourages me because some of the best built houses so far in Nunavut are the ones built by the homeowners as part of their equity and they take a lot of pride in them.
Even some of them build it in a year and a half, two years.
They took a lot of pride in building their own house under the HAP program.
They are some of the best-built ones.
I think that we should be continuing to encourage that as part of the equity.
The comments are well taken.
You just struck a nerve there when you talk about codes and standards.
The brainiacs over in corporations, for some reason can't seem to think past copper pipe and I've had this discussion with numerous contractors in the Kivalliq.
Every where else in the world they are using plastics which are cheaper and cheaper to ship, easy to use, you burst a pipe in copper you got to dig walls out and do various other things.
They've got this technology that's been in use in southern construction for the last 25 or 30 years called plastic pipes for water lines, sewer lines and various other things.
I was going to leave this alone but now I have to express it because now I have a couple more calls from contractors on the last group of supply ship and erect units.
There was enough material left, and I got this from a couple of contractors, to build another house.
So whoever got the material list on it which was the housing corporation again, they, it's always good to be careful but by being that careful you know, the contractors bid based on the material list from the supplier.
Thinking that yes this is the standard in material.
That used to be the old GNWT that when they did housing contracts there used to be 10 or 15 or 20 % material left over after a project.
Here we go we did the supply ship and erect this year and there was so much building material left over that, you know, sure the contractors supply, ship and erect, they get to keep it.
But they had to pay the extra freight, they had to pay the extra material and that so they got an inventory of material that was unnecessary.
So it would be good for you to do a check and just see how much material was left.
They probably won't tell you because you paid for it.
If I was the contractor I'd say there was nothing left, I was actually short 10 %.
So, when you talk about vision and innovation and things like that all we've done is taken the GNWT, brought it over to Nunavut erased GNWT and put Nunavut because I see the same things.
I know as minister you are trying to change, I know the president is trying to change but there's the little peons down in the bowels of the bureaucracy in associations that think one way.
They've been trained to think one way and it's like the lemmings going over the edge that it's hard to stop the old thinking.
I've tried, in my own little workings in my community but it's the same old stuff, the same old stuff and I know you as a minister would like to change it.
I know the president would like to change it.
But there's too many of them out there to change at once.
I'm just saying that this is two instances where I think we can initiate some change and save the government and corporation some money and make better houses for Nunavummiut.
Taima Mr. Chairman.
Those are excellent comments I'm sure they'll take it into consideration.
At this time, we're on the capital expenditures, 14 million dollars page 12-5.
Chairperson (interpretation): Nunavut Housing Corporation, branch summary. Total capital expenditures, 14 million dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Nunavut Housing Corporation, detail of expenditures has been completed.
Now that we are done with the capital I'd like to report progress.
All agreed.
At this time, just a minute.
Don't stand up yet. I would first like to thank Madam Minister and the officials for making their presentations.
I'll give you time to do your closing comments.
Hon. Manitok Thompson (interpretation): Thank you for this excellent progress.
Of course the Members of the Legislative Assembly work very hard and I am sure it is not that I am treated like a doormat as the Minister of the Housing Corporation but I do work as hard as I can and I do know you work as hard as you can.
For that I would like to thank you for agreeing with the Capital Estimates and I know that you are not completely satisfied.
What are we clapping about I am not sure and I have no idea what the clapping is about.
We have to conclude.
You can return to your seats and we can call in the Speaker.
Item 21. Report of the Committee of the Whole.
Mr. Iqaqrialu (interpretation): Mr. Speaker, thank you.
I had forgotten to say that we are talking about country foods in the members’ lounge so that you'll have something to eat after the meeting.
Mr. Speaker, your Committee has been considering Bill 1 and would like to report that Bill 1 is still under consideration and would like to report progress.
And further, Mr. Speaker I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with.
Item 22. Third Reading of Bills. Third Reading of Bills.
Orders of the Day for Thursday March 8, 2001:
Motion 4 – 1(5) Adjournment
Members before we adjourn I’d like to recognize that we will be attending the Memorial Service at the Cadet Hall tomorrow for the slain RCMP Officer from Cape Dorset.
The House stands adjourned until Thursday, March 8 at 2:15 pm.
>>Assembly adjourned at 6:06 p.m.
Thursday March 8, 2001
Pages 494 - 558
Deputy Speaker: Mr. Uriash Puqiqnak, M.L.A. Legislative Assembly of Nunavut
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills & Other Matters 4
Thursday March 8, 2001 4
024 - 1(5): International Women’s Day (Kattuk) 4
025 - 1(5): Assistance to Communities for O&M (Anawak) 4
026 - 1(5): Skills Canada NWT / Nunavut (Kilabuk) 4
027 - 1(5): Status of Women Council (Kattuk) 4
088 - 1(5): Death of RCMP Officer Jurgen Seewald (Akesuk) 4
089 - 1(5): Kitikmeot Economic Development (Havioyak) 4
090 - 1(5): International Women’s Day (Williams) 4
091 - 1(5): Interpretation at Memorial Service (Irqittuq) 4
092 - 1(5): Women Photographers Exhibit (Picco) 4
093 - 1(5): Graduation Ceremonies at Sanikiluaq (Kattuk) 4
094 – 1(5): Spouses of Elected Officials (Anawak) 4
095 - 1(5): Working Relationship with RCMP (McLean) 4
096 - 1(5): Baker Lake Caucus Retreat Communiqué (Tootoo) 4
097 – 1(5): Women’s Day Celebrations in Rankin Inlet (Thompson) 4
098 - 1(5): Status of Women Council Appointments (Nutarak) 4
099 - 1(5): Tribute to Mother & Spouse on Women’s Day (Kilabuk) 4
100 – 1(5): Families Affected by Cape Dorset Shooting (Iqaqrialu) 4
101 – 1(5): Respect for All Things (Alakannuark) 4
094 - 1(5): Ublivik Contract (Arvaluk) 4
095 - 1(3): Change of Ownership for Government Contracts (McLean) 4
096 - 1(5): Environmental Groups (Iqaqrialu) 4
097 - 1(3): Staff Housing Rental Rates (Tootoo) 4
098 - 1(5): Midwifery in the Communities (Nutarak) 4
099 - 1(3): Elders Teaching Midwifery (Iqaqrialu) 4
100 - 1(5): Igloolik Health Centre Staff (Irqittuq) 4
101 - 1(5): Administrative Duties for Nurses (Williams) 4
102 - 1(5): Language Bureau Staffing (Havioyak) 4
103 - 1(5): Number of Nursing Students (McLean) 4
104- 1(5): Support for Nursing Students (Tootoo) 4
010 – 1(5): Response to Petitions 1 – 1(5) & 002 - 1(5) (Clerk) 4
004 – 1(5): Adjournment (Havioyak) 4
Thursday March 8, 2001  Nunavut Hansard
Honourable Olayuk Akesuk, Mr. Ovide Alakannuark, Honourable Jack Anawak, Mr. James Arvaluk, Mr. Donald Havioyak, Mr. David Iqaqrialu, Mr. Enoki Irqittuq, Honourable Peter Kattuk, Honourable Peter Kilabuk, Mr. Glenn McLean, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Jobie Nutarak, Honourable Paul Okalik, Honourable Ed Picco, Mr. Uriash Puqiqnak, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Mr. Hunter Tootoo, Ms. Rebekah Williams.
Deputy Speaker (Mr. Puqiqnak): I would like to ask Ms. Williams to say the opening prayer.
Speaker (interpretation): Thank you, Rebekah.
Good afternoon Premier, Members of the Legislative Assembly and visitors.
Minister for Culture, Language, Elders & Youth.
Minister's Statement 024 - 1(5): International Women’s Day
I would like to start off by expressing my support for all the women of Nunavut on International Women’s Day.
(interpretation ends) By raising their voices and their concerns collectively, and by taking action together, Canadian women, in all their diversity, have been successful in effecting positive change in their communities, removing the barriers they face in our society and around the world.
Despite the gains of the past decades, Canadian women continue to face many challenges before they reach full equality in our society.
All of us have a role to play in reaching this goal.
Every voice and every action counts.
Therefore, I invite all Nunavummiut to take the opportunity during International Women's Day to reflect on those struggles and to take action.
(interpretation) Mr. Speaker, today I also would like to take this opportunity to inform my colleagues and the public that our department is assisting communities to celebrate this very important day.
(interpretation ends) Locally here in Iqaluit, Mr. Speaker, there will be a public exhibition at the Nunatta Sunakkutangit Museum at 7 pm tonight.
The theme of this exhibition will be titled "The taste of northern women photography" thanks to Kerry McClusky who volunteered and made it possible.
Another celebration will be taking place at the Elders' Facility between 4 and 6 pm; the theme for this event will be “Celebrating Women’s Traditional Knowledge”. There will be entertainment and performances during the evening. I would like to acknowledge Elisapee Davidee and officials in my department for facilitating and sponsoring this celebration.
(interpretation) Mr. Speaker in conclusion, I invite my colleagues and all Nunavummiut to take the time to appreciate and acknowledge our grandmothers, our mothers, our daughters, sisters, wives and the vital role those people have in our lives.
Before we get back to Ministers' Statements, I forgot to mention that Members of the Legislative Assembly attended the RCMP memorial service for Constable Seewald at the Cadet Hall this afternoon.
I truly appreciate that and on behalf of the Assembly, I would like to pass on our deepest condolences to the family and the friends of the fallen RCMP officer.
Minister's Statement 025 - 1(5): Assistance to Communities for O&M
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to inform the Legislative Assembly that the Department of Community Government and Transportation will assist the municipalities to meet operating and maintenance costs.
All Nunavummiut have felt the impact of rising costs, but municipalities particularly so because the funding formulas used to calculate operating and maintenance costs have not been adjusted for some years.
This formula is presently being reviewed but help is needed now if communities are to continue to deliver services to their residents.
(interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, the department has distributed an additional 2 million dollars to municipalities in this fiscal year. Three hundred and eight thousand dollars is targeted directly towards reducing the impact of high fuel costs. One hundred and twenty four thousand dollars is for increased costs of the Diesel Fuel Stabilization Rider Subsidy.
Three hundred and ten thousand dollars is directed toward the cost of delivering water and sewage services, and over one and a quarter million dollars is directed to core funding, through the Municipal Operating Assistance Program.
Minister of Education. Mr. Kilabuk.
Minister's Statement 026 - 1(5): Skills Canada NWT / Nunavut
Hon. Peter Kilabuk (interpretation): Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to tell you about an initiative from the Nunavut Government that will aid in increasing trades awareness across Nunavut.
The Department of Education has recently made a 20 thousand dollar financial contribution to Skills Canada NWT / Nunavut.
Mr. Speaker, Skills Canada is a territorial not-for-profit organization that promotes skilled trades and technology as a first choice career option to young Northerners.
Skills Canada holds competitions across Canada, which allows young Canadians to challenge themselves by competing against people of the same discipline, at the same level.
Mr. Speaker, Ms. Kim Smith, a career development officer for the Department of Education in Cambridge Bay is on the board of Skills Canada NWT/Nunavut.
Mr. Speaker, Ms. Smith will be working closely with the apprentice officers across Nunavut, as well as all of the schools and Nunavut Arctic College to actively recruit people to enter into the Trades Skills competition to be held in Fort Smith and Yellowknife in April and May.
Last year, Mr. Speaker, we sent eight Nunavummiut to the competition.
This year efforts are being made to double this amount.
Some of the competitions include carpentry, cooking, heavy equipment mechanics, heavy equipment operators, plumbing, welding, electrical, ladies’ hair styling, restaurant services, small powered equipment, TV and video production and women’s apparel design.
Mr. Speaker, it is through awareness and partnerships like these that Nunavummiut will continue to choose trades as a viable career option.
Minister's Statement 027 - 1(5): Status of Women Council
Hon. Peter Kattuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Department of Culture, Language, Elders & Youth is pleased to announce the appointment of the new Status of Women Council.
(interpretation ends) Culture, Language, Elders & Youth recognizes the current issues affecting women in Nunavut and as a government department, we are proud to support action on those issues.
After reviewing applications received from a public call for nominations, I have appointed nine members to the Status of Women Council.
Let me introduce to you the names of the new members.
Martha Hickes from Rankin Inlet, Madeleine Qumuatuq from Pangnirtung, Maureen Doherty from Iqaluit, Annie Napajuk from Whale Cove, Rhoda Nanook from Taloyoak, Leah Qaqasiq from Arctic Bay, Annie Tatty from Rankin Inlet, Rhoda Arreak from Pond Inlet and this one very well known individual from Cambridge Bay, Helen Maksagak.
All nominations were impressive and I would like to thank all nominees for offering their time to this very important work.
The new Status of Women Advisor, Rhoda Ungalaq, will join the department on March 12.
She will work closely with the new Council to continue on the solid foundation built by the interim Council.
I believe the new Council members and the new Status of Women Advisor have the right combination of experience, understanding and dedication.
I feel we have the best people representing Nunavummiut on current issues of interest to women.
Issues that affect all Nunavummiut.
Please join me in welcoming them to their appointments.
Speaker (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Kattuk.
Member's Statement 088 - 1(5): Death of RCMP Officer Jurgen Seewald
Earlier this week, my home community of Cape Dorset experienced an event that no community ever wants to face.
In the early hours on Monday morning, Constable Jurgen Seewald, a 25-year veteran for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police was fatally wounded responding to a call for help.
Mr. Speaker, I know words cannot begin to ease the pain and suffering that Mr. Seewald’s family, friends and colleagues are experiencing in these dark days following his death.
I have had great difficulty this week finding my own words to understand this terrible tragedy.
As the representative of the Legislative Assembly for Cape Dorset, I want to express my very deepest condolences to Mr. Seewald’s family in Nova Scotia for the loss of their son, husband and father.