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Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Deputy Minister.
Chairperson I’m sorry if I implied you are trying to keep information, I realize that you’re just in a developmental stage of the policy and I guess I think that when you do have something it’ll be nice to get it to us as soon as possible.
The Minister could commit to doing that just so that we have the information that answers the questions that are posed to us but that’s all there is.
Deputy Minister or Minister of Culture, Language, Elders & Youth.
I think that’s more of a comment than the question.
But if you want to make a response, I believe that was just a comment that was made.
Mr. Havioyak
Hon. Donald Havioyak: (interpretation): Thank you Chairperson.
Right now we’re just in a preparation state how we’re going to implement this, I think that as soon as we get everything organized and soon as everything is all set up we will inform the member on the progress.
I have no more names on the list, I would like to thank the people who ask the questions.
My question at this time is if you would like to go line by line.
We will go to 8-4 directorate.
Mr. Tootoo do you have a question
Mr. Tootoo: Thank you Chairperson.
Chairperson under this directorate falls a section that used to be in another department which is the Status of Women Council, I believe, in that area over in executive.
I believe there’s just an over all general position for equality advisor.
I’m just wondering if that is going to be coming back into this division within the new department.
For my understanding the equality advisor, is just general across the board for everybody, I’m just wondering if that’s something that’s going to be put back in after.
Thank you Chairperson
Mr. Havioyak or Deputy Minister
Hon. Donald Havioyak (interpretation): Thank you Chairperson.
In our department following our department and in regards to the equality advisory position, it is in our department.
Chairperson: Thank you Mr. Minister.
Mr. Tootoo, Mr. Akesuk
Mr. Akesuk: I’m sorry where are we now what page number?
Chairperson: We’re on page 8-4 directorate
Mr. Akesuk: Thank you Chairperson.
I’m sorry Mr. Chairperson my question regarding the statement under the directorate, I’m not against women but my question is in regards to the Nunavut Women’s Association and the Status of Women.
What’s the difference between the two?
Why are there two programs set?
Mr. Irniq
Mr. Irniq (interpretation): Thank you Chairperson.
The difference between the two is the Status Woman is in the Nunavut Government and Nunavut Women’s Association is established in Rankin Inlet.
They had a meeting recently in Rankin Inlet and this was established.
The Status of Women is within part of the Nunavut government.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Deputy Minister.
Mr. Akesuk (interpretation): Thank you Chairperson.
They don’t have the same mandate, within these two organizations?
We are working on how they’re going to operate within our department.
Maybe it’s going to work in different areas.
But we are, like we said preparing how they’re going to function and operate within our department.
Sometimes they are working on the same issues .
They’re on a preparation stage so once we have everything else we will let you know, Peter will be add further to that.
At this time we have Geela Giroux who works for this department on women’s issues and we have stated in our office that it would be set up slightly different than the way it was set up with in the government of the Northwest Territories.
The women of Nunavut and men of Nunavut have to work more closely together but right now we’re working on the options paper to date.
At this time we’ll go ahead on page 8-4, Mr. Tootoo
Chairperson the next step we’re going to go through I believe is to approve the dollar figures in that I’d like to make a comment before we approve, finally approve any of the grants and contributions dollars within the department.
I’d like a commitment from the Minister.
If he could go back through Cabinet and reallocate some of the dollars that he has under contributions towards the youth programming in Nunavut.
Mr. Minister please recognize the Chairperson you can only make comments after I have recognized you so we can hear responses.
I’m sorry I’ll recognize the Chairperson.
Mr. Chairperson.
As soon as we have the figures we can let you know how we’re going to deal with this.
Chairperson, I don’t personally, I wouldn’t want to agree to all these any of these grants and contributions until I know that there will be some funding being dedicated for the youth of Nunavut.
I’d like a commitment from the Minister and hopefully his Cabinet colleagues that they would ensure that there is some money in this budget dedicated towards our youth.
Maybe Mark Bain has comments
Mr. Bain: Thank you Chairperson, my understanding is that Cabinet directed Culture, Language, Elders & Youth this morning to review the contributions and grants policy and return to cabinet by June 30th so with that direction from cabinet Culture, Language, Elders & Youth will immediately begin and in fact it already has gone to review it’s entire grants at 1.8 million and rearrange them to fit the needs of Nunavut that will probably include the youth/elders, language issues and the works.
Chairperson: (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Bain.
Mr. Chairperson Mr. Bain indicated the a total of grants and contributions to 1.8 million looking at page 8-7 almost 2.4 million just wondering why there a discrepancy there and why?
Mr. Bain
Mr. Bain: Thank you Chairperson.
Yes the 1.8 million in grants and contributions is specifically is for culture, language, elders and youths and will service the needs of Members asking about the use.
The remainder of that total amount 2.4 million are the status of women’s grants money.
If you take a look at the 2 had been coming together 2.4 million which is the total grant and contributions for the department.
Qujannamiik
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Bain.
Chairperson, is the Ministers’ staff stating in that allocations of grants and contributions which is listed on page 8-7 there aren’t going to be final allocation dollars except for the status of women dollars.
Is that what he is saying.
Mr. Havioyak if you would respond please.
Chairperson the Member is correct the grants and contributions is listed in estimates and the grants and contributions we’ll probably return to cabinet with will be different to the extent that it is in process now.
I’m sure that those grants that we come forward with will recognize the youth and youth issues as the member is asking.
The details to that are still in process this cabinet is to return on June 30th with our contributions and grants I’m sure that will have numbers.
Nakurmiik
Mr. Chairperson, then I anticipate that prior to any changes being approved they will be brought forward in the House for approval by all the members.
Thank you Chairperson.
We will be the ones that are at this table and we will make some changes and when we do make some changes I will let the members know.
Right now we’re just on the preparation stage so they are not completed yet but once we have them all done up there, where the grants and contributions will go I will inform the House where the monies will go to.
We will inform the House where these grants and contributions will go.
Mr. Chairperson I’m new at this so maybe I can be clarified.
This is my understanding, once we approve the budget that’s presented here, that’s how they go forward for the rest of the year.
The only way that they can be changed is through decisions approved through Cabinet and then approved by all the Members in the House.
I am just wondering if I can get some clarification on that, Mr. Chairperson.
Since it is in respect to the Nunavut Government, I would like to ask the Minister of Finance to answer that if you don’t mind.
Chairperson (interpretation): I am sorry I wasn’t…could I ask the Finance Minister to answer that question, Mr. , is it Ng or Ning?
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Thank you Mr. Chairman, just to clarify on the issue of grants and contributions that come before the House under different departments.
You’re approving the broader program where the grants and contributions are dispersed, the Minister or the group that gets, depending on what it is if you use for example, a Nunavut Arts Council that has some flexibility for making recommendations on spending.
So you are approving a broader classification of a grant program, which allows the department to expend funds under that category.
So it is not tied to specific projects yet, a lot of these programs, because those applications run during the course of the year.
It is not right now that you would know all of the specific details on those.
If you use another example, under Sustainable Development Business Grant Contribution Program.
You don’t know what, over the course of the year right now what applications are going to come in, so you have a set category for that funding that allows the department to disperse the funding.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Ng. Mr. Tootoo.
Mr. Chairman, then if what the Minister of Finance is saying is correct, the lists on page 8-7, is what we would be approving and only things underneath those things up to those amounts would be allowed to be spent?
No other programs, no other contributions, would be allowed in there?
Is that what the Minister is stating?
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Yes, Mr. Chairman, basically that is the broader program detail that we are approving now, if there are changes of course in there, within the Financial Administration Act, the Minister, or any Minister within the departments if they are making changes, within certain limits, there are different guidelines as to how they do that, but ultimately it is a public process in respect of reporting of that.
Mr. Chairman, then according to this list, for youth there is only 30 thousand dollars for youth projects.
To me personally that is not acceptable, I would like to see, before I approve it a commitment from the Minister and the Cabinet that there will be additional dollars allocated for youth programming in Nunavut.
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Mr. Chairman, I guess, you know the budget that we are dealing with now is the current one proposed by the government.
If the member or any other member thinks that there is a more urgent need, they can make a recommendation to that respect that we can consider and it will go back to the Cabinet and FMB in that circumstance and review what the priorities would be.
Then Mr. Chairman then I would make a recommendation that prior to approving any of the grants and contributions dollars for the department of Culture, Language, Elders & Youth that Cabinet re-look at it and allocate some dollars for youth programming in Nunavut.
Chairperson (interpretation): At this time I am eyeing two Minister here based on this.
Either the Minister, Mr. Havioyak, or the Finance Minister should respond.
Either one or the other.
Hon. Kelvin Ng: If I may Mr. Chairman, I don’t know if there was a formal motion proposed, but it is certainly not a proper motion right now.
It was a recommendation, if a motion is what is required in the Committee of the Whole, I am not sure, maybe if we can have some clarification from the staff on what to do in this situation.
Chairperson (interpretation): I would like to ask Mr. Tootoo, if he would like to initiate a motion, and if he is to initiate a motion, we will have to have a short break in order for you to write down the motion.
Go ahead Mr. Tootoo.
Mr. Tootoo: If that is the case, then that is what has to be done to ensure that happens then I would like to make a motion.
Chairperson (interpretation): At this time I will ask my fellow members for a 10 minute break.
>>Committee Recessed from 3:24 and resumed at 3:35 pm.
Chairperson (interpretation): We have returned to the Committee of the Whole and I would like to remind you that we are supposed to close the session at 4 o’clock.
I would like to ask member Mr. Tootoo if he has any further comments?
After some consultation during the break I have decided to withdraw my motion, however I would like to again ask the Minister to commit to reallocating a suitable amount of dollars for youth programming within his budget.
You have made a good decision, Minister Havioyak or one of your officials.
I think the question could be answered by Mr. Bain.
Chairperson: Mr. Bain.
Mr. Bain: Thank you Mr. Chairman, I can assure you that with the restructuring of our grants and contributions that no member of Nunavut’s is limited or excluded from applying for grants and contributions.
To specifically answer the members’ question, our grants and contributions will be oriented to cultural materials, artists groups, and whatnot throughout Nunavut and youth will certainly be encouraged to apply.
Chairperson (interpretation): Minister Havioyak.
Hon. Donald Havioyak (interpretation): I would like to state that what we are speaking on today, especially concerning funding, we are able to allocate a certain amount to youth programs and if some amount is not going to be used on culture, we will definitely allocate them to youth programs.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Minister Havioyak.
Yes Mr. Minister.
That would be if the dollars could be reallocated specifically for youth programming that is what I am looking for.
Hon. Donald Havioyak (interpretation): Yes, the answer is yes.
Chairperson (interpretation): Mr. McLean. Thank you.
Although the bit of a problem we ran into is over, in regards to the budget, under page 8-7, on the same page, there are three women’s initiative grants, Status of Women, Nunavut Women’s Association, there are three entities that belong to Women.
I would like to know if we have different kinds of women, that’s why we have three different women’s groups?
Chairperson (interpretation): Mr. Deputy Minister.
They seem to be different but they are all the same.
Some of the issues we brought up in Status of Women will be in the Nunavut Government, but that is for a Nunavut Government department.
The Nunavut Women’s Association with 175 thousand budget, as I had stated, this association was established in the Rankin Inlet meeting.
The other women’s initiative is to give grants to various initiatives for women.
This 250 thousand dollars will be distributed by the Nunavut Government and allotted to the Nunavut Women’s Association.
At this time we had agreed that we would adjourn at 4 o’clock today and the clock is ticking.
Would the members like to continue or what is the members wish at this point?
I move that we report progress.
Chairperson (interpretation): There is a motion to report progress and it is not debatable.
However, although we have done quite a few things today, first of all I would like to thank the Minister and his officials for coming here and like to acknowledge your staff for working very hard. Mr. Ng.
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Mr. Chairman, question hasn’t been called yet.
Chairperson (interpretation): There is a point of order.
Question has not been posed, we have not had a vote, we would like to have a vote on the motion, I apologize.
There is a motion on the floor to recess for the day.
All those in favour.
Let’s do it again.
All those in favour of recessing now?
The motion is carried so we will report progress.
Speaker: Item 21, Report of the Committee of the Whole.
Mr. Puqiqnak (interpretation): Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 1 and Committee Reports 1, 2, 3 and 4, Bill 2 and 3 and would like to report that they are still considering the department and Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the committee be concurred with.
Speaker (interpretation): Thank you, there is a motion on the floor, who is the seconder?
Mr. Nutarak seconds the motion, there is a motion on the floor.
All those in favour of the motion.
Item 22, Order of the Day.
Meeting of Regular caucus at half past 4 today has been cancelled.
Orders of the Day for Saturday May 29th , 1999
Ministers' Statements  3.
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery  6.
Notices of Motions  15.
Bill 2 - Boards of Management Dissolution Act  Bill 3 - Divisional Education Council Dissolution Act
Standing Committee Reports 1-1(2), 2-1(2), 3-1(2) 4-1(2)  20.
Report of Committee of the Whole  21.
22. Orders of the Day
Speaker: Thank you Mr. Clerk. (interpretation) I would like to remind the members that between 9.30 and 10.45 we will be taking individual pictures of the members of the Legislative Assembly and the picture taking will be upstairs, you could talk to the Clerk to find out your appointment time.
Other information, the Inuit Broadcasting Corporation has informed me that on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, pictures didn’t come out because they had satellite problems.
They will be aired right up until Sunday, to show the Assembly when it is sitting.
Even if we didn’t see everything on those days, everything will be coming out right up to Sunday.
At this time, I would like to close the House until Saturday May 29, we will start at 11 o’clock in the morning.
>>House Adjourned at 3.49 pm
DAY 13
SATURDAY, MAY 29, 1999
Pages 489 - 535
Table of Contents  Prayer 28
Saturday May 29, 1999 28
25 – 1 (2) : Canadian Space Agency Astronaut Julie Payette (Okalik) 28
80 – 1 (2): Capital Aesthetic Improvements (Tootoo ) 28
81 – 1 (2): Nunavut Flag in Space (Arvaluk) 28
82 - 1 (2): Services for BCC Inmates (Kattuk) 28
83 - 1 (2): Anglican Church Synod in Iqaluit (Picco) 28
7 - 1 (2) Fair and Equitable Treatment of Employees (Okalik) 28
134 - 1 (2): Social Service Worker for Kimmirut (Akesuk) 28
135 - 1 (2): Payment for Grave Workers (Irqittuq) 28
136 - 1 (2): Increase Polar Bear Quotas (Alakannuark) 28
137 - 1 (2): Land Fill Site Restoration in Pond Inlet (Nutarak) 28
138 - 1 (2): Environmental Report on Land Fill Site (Tootoo) 28
139 - 1 (2): Inuit Traditional Knowledge in Wildlife Studies (Iqaqrialu) 28
140 - 1 (2): Business Incentive Policy (O'Brien) 28
141 - 1(2): Payroll Tax (Akesuk) 28
142 - 1 (2): Yard Space Around Houses (Iqaqrialu) 28
143 - 1 (2): Banking in Smaller Communities (Puqiqnak) 28
144 - 1 (2): Polar Bear Management in Hudson Bay (Kattuk) 28
145 - 1 (2): Increase in MDAPP (Tootoo) 28
146 - 1 (2): Liquor Warehouse (McLean) 28
147 - 1 (2):Causes of Illness (Alakannuark) 28
148 - 1 (2): Liquor Concerns (Iqaqrialu) 28
149 - 1 (2): Credit Unions (Puqiqnak) 505
150 - 1 (2): Paving Airstrips (Akesuk) 28
151 - 1 (2): Liquor Warehouse (Iqaqrialu) 28
152 - 1 (2): Airstrip Paving (Akesuk) 28
22 – 1 (2): Materials to be in Inuktitut and English (Akesuk) 28
23 – 1 (2): Capital Funding for Audio/Visual Equipment (Akesuk) 28  Saturday May 29, 1999
Saturday May 29, 1999
Speaker (Mr. Barnabas) (interpretation): Good morning. I would like to ask Mr. Puqiqnak to say the opening prayer this morning.
Speaker (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Puqiqnak. Item number 2, Minister’s statements. Minister’s statements, Mr. Premier.
Ministers’ Statement 25 – 1 (2) : Canadian Space Agency Astronaut Julie Payette
Mr. Speaker I rise today to ask the members to recognize with me the achievement of the Canadian astronaut, Julie Payette, who last Thursday was launched into space.
Miss Payette brought with her on board the Space Shuttle Discovery the flag of Nunavut.
The creation of Nunavut is the outcome of a dream for Nunavummiut and, as a means of celebrating this new era for Canada, the Canadian Space Agency and Ms. Payette included Nunavut in this historic space mission.
Mr. Speaker, Miss Payette has been invited to visit Nunavut and take part in the Nunavut celebrations on July 9. We look forward to her presence.
Again, I would like to ask the members to join with me in congratulating Ms. Payette.
Members’ Statement 80 – 1 (2): Capital Aesthetic Improvements
Mr. Tootoo: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to speak on the issue of our capital. Mr. Speaker, several recent newspaper articles have commented on the state of our capital.
Iqaluit has been called the capital city of poverty reflecting the income levels of many of our long time residents as well as the homeless.
Iqaluit has also been called an ugly capital reflecting on the buildings and the layout of the town.
Forced growth and quick growth are having an impact on the town of Iqaluit and not all of it is pretty.
Mr. Speaker, Iqaluit roads and parking spaces are becoming more and more congested.
Old boarded up buildings waiting for redevelopment are unsightly, our signs aren’t very aesthetic, and our water front as well, let’s say its functional.
And yet we have majestic hills surrounding the town and a beautiful view of the ocean.
We have artists, weavers and carvers who can transform entranceways and walls into cultural masterpieces.
People should leave Iqaluit with an impression of this beauty and this needs to be incorporated into the capital.
Mr. Speaker, Iqaluit should look like a capital.
I recognize that this won't happen over night but we need to start somewhere.
We need a capital city plan. At the same time not all of the burden for this should fall on the town of Iqaluit.
We need a group of people with vision to develop such a plan.
A group of people with practical, sensible and aesthetic ideas to ensure we beautify the city and make it a home for new offices and tourists and allow it to take it's rightful place among the capital cities of Canada.
We should also provide housing for all the Iqaluit residents and places for our youth and our children to play and to grow strong.
Mr. Speaker, a task force should be struck with the Government of Nunavut, Town Council, and the Federal Government and Land Claim Organizations, local businesses, tourism and social organizations.
This task force should have its mandate to develop a long-term plan for the capital city of Iqaluit.
Mr. Speaker, I hope that all the members of this house will support the Premier in establishing such a group and ensure that some capital funding is devoted to this need which will benefit all of Nunavut.
Speaker: Thank you. Just a caution that we still have rules.
Make sure your statement is within two minutes and thirty seconds because I'm going to have to call you to sit down and you're going to have to ask for unanimous consent to finish your statement.
Speaker (interpretation): Members' statement.
Members’ Statement 81 – 1 (2): Nunavut Flag in Space
In regards to the Minister's comments I am very pleased that Julie Payette was able to go up in the space shuttle Discovery.
We can now watch TVNC everyday to look at the current events and last night we saw the flag of Nunavut shown on TVNC and I can recall in 1971 that the Anik Satellite was launched for the first time.
Elijah Manirayak and myself went down to Cape Canaveral to watch the launch.
During the celebrations that same evening, since he was a CBC reporter, he interviewed me in Florida.
It's been 28 years today but I can remember that it was live and it was in Inuktitut by telephone to Montreal and then to the Nunavut communities.
We were using the short-wave radio.
I believe that it was the last time that we did use the short-wave radio before it became the satellite services and then afterwards we used the Anik satellite system.
I was very proud last evening when I saw the current events with the Nunavut flag.
There has been a tremendous change over the last 30 years and I hope that and I do know that the youth will be involved in these evolving times. It's an honour to have been apart of these changes and it's for the betterment and for the self-sufficiency of the Inuit of Nunavut.
Members' statements.
Members’ Statement 82 - 1 (2): Services for BCC Inmates
Mr. Kattuk (interpretation): Thank you. I have asked several questions on this issue and at this time I would like to put it out as a members' statement regarding the Baffin Correctional Centre that's based here in Iqaluit.
Mr. Speaker, the Baffin Correctional Centre needs support services for the inmates because at times it's very hard for some of the inmates as they're worried about their immediate family members that they've left behind.
With that in mind Mr. Speaker I would like say that the inmates should be able to get counselling and have healing services available to them because the Baffin Correctional Centre is used by a lot of Inuit.