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I am not really use to reading in Inuktitut.
This is coming from the Member.
The question that I want to ask is on behalf of my community.
It is in regards to the community hall in Gjoa Haven.
Right now the community hall is too small for the community.
In 1999 when we met at the Parish Hall I made a Member’s Statement in regards to the size of the community hall it is too small for the community.
I got a response from the Minister. He stated he would inform me in regards to the community hall in Gjoa Haven.
On March 14 I also met with the minister when he visited my community and he met with the Hamlet Council and the Mayor of Gjoa Haven and the Senior Administrative Officer.
As well on April 10, 2000, there was a petition from the community of Gjoa Haven that I tabled in this House.
Mr. Chairperson the small size of the community hall in Gjoa Haven was petitioned by various people in the community.
We asked in a Written Question and Mr. Chairperson in year 2000-2001 main estimates.
I was expecting that there would be funding for that community hall in Gjoa Haven.
It was in 1999 it was put under A and then it was put under B in the year 2000-2001.
I thought it would be again in year 2000-2001 capital estimates that the community hall would be included in capital estimates.
I just wondered my question is to the Minister what they are going to do about the community hall in Gjoa Haven.
Just before the Minister responds to the question.
>>Committee recessed at 2:51 and resumed at 3:24 p.m.
Chairperson (interpretation): The committee will come back to order.
For the question that was read into the House as we are doing the Kitikmeot region.
Mr. Anawak would you like to respond to that question.
We will not be doing any expansion this summer but as we mentioned at the beginning we would be reviewing the community halls.
I could say that I know that the community of Gjoa Haven has a small community hall.
Just as small as Cape Dorset and Pond Inlet and other communities as well have small community halls.
Because we have a small budget this year if we are going to do a review of the communities and the expansion to be done, we will be doing a review on those things such as the community halls and the arenas.
I know that it is recreation for the communities and also for various other organized activities.
We will keep them under consideration and that is all I can say at this time.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Anawak. Mr. Nutarak.
Mr. Nutarak (interpretation): Under item, Kugluktuk, Kitikmeot region, I just wondered if there was a mistake there.
It has Uqsuqtuq there instead of Kugluktuk.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Nutarak. Mr. Minister.
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): No, it does have Kugluktuk in my capital estimates here.
Is that the replacing of the water supply line.
There were parts frozen in the water line in Kugluktuk, we have to replace the line, and we have been working on this for quite some time.
With Gjoa Haven we have nothing for Gjoa Haven at this time to replace the water supply line.
We will be asking to see how much it would cost for Gjoa Haven to replace their water tank.
We are using the same water line at the same time but we put a screen in the pipe.
At the present time we have this screen in place in the water tank in Gjoa Haven and we will have to do a study as to how much it would cost to replace the pipe.
Mr. Nutarak (interpretation): I was asked by the Nattilik MLA to ask this question.
Perhaps to expand on the question.
He was in his chair and he was showing us the water with the bloodworms that are in their water tank.
Perhaps I wonder if the minister or his department is aware of this problem in Gjoa Haven.
The blood worms in the water tanks.
I have that question for the minister.
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): Yes, the reason why they got those blood worms is because the screen broke and now we have replaced that screen and we will put it into the water tank.
Not just that, we have other problems besides that in Gjoa Haven, but now that is what we are doing is putting the screen into the water tank.
We will do a review as to how much it would cost to replace the water tank or replace the water reservoir.
The screen is in place right now and it should eliminate the number of bloodworms going into the water tanks.
Questions or comments under the Kitikmeot region.
We are on the Kitikmeot region.
Total Kitikmeot region, 280 thousand dollars.
Total buildings and works, 5 million 47 thousand.
Under 7 – 7.
Detail of Capital. Equipment acquisition, Baffin region.
Total equipment acquisition, 200 thousand.
Anyone against.
Total equipment acquisition, 200 thousand. Anyone against.
Contributions, Baffin region.
Total Baffin region, 4 million. I am sorry contributions. Total Baffin region, 4 million 838 thousand.
Under Iqaluit.
I am sorry I think I made a mistake.
Under Iqaluit there are a lot of, I am thinking about something else.
Never mind Mr. Chairman.
I do not have any questions after all under Iqaluit.
I will have a few questions under Iqaluit.
My first question is upgrade water treatment plant, 200 thousand.
Then 3 million, I suppose that is for next year for a total project of 3 million 328 thousand.
The first part of the question is, that's a two year project I take it.
How much has the Municipality of Iqaluit contributed.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. McLean. Mr. Minister or Mr. Ferris.
The Iqaluit water treatment plant upgrade, the first part of the project is safety, regulatory issues that have to be addressed and that's what is being covered in the 200 thousand dollars for this year.
There is a longer-term requirement for water storage, water filtration and capacity here in Iqaluit.
It is presently being looked at as a two year program. 2001/2002 and then 2002/2003, funding permitting.
We have reflected what the costs, the estimates would be on the project but it will be subject at the funding being available in the future years.
All we are doing right now is including the safety and regulatory issues that have come up about the potential chlorine and leaks and so on.
There is obviously some kind of plan in place to the stage of predicting or projecting that it is going to be 3 million 328 thousand.
Like I say what is going to be the total cost of this project, from start to completion and how much is the Municipality kicking in.
I can't give the member what the contribution would be from the Town right now.
We can get that answer for him shortly.
I would also like to see the total cost of the project.
There must be architectural plans involved.
I know that this town is under tremendous pressure for growth and 3 million dollars is a lot of money. A lot of us don't have utilidor service in remote communities.
If there is going to be a cost sharing agreement, in utilidor services, is it going to be for everybody in Nunavut.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. McLean. Mr. Minister.
I am sorry, I thought you were asking on the 3 million 300.
Just one minute.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you. We are talking about.
Mr. Ferris: Thank you Mr. Chairman. I understood that Mr. McLean asked a question on the upgrade of the water treatment plant and that's the answer that I provided.
That upgrade of the water treatment plant does not include any utilidor work.
That is simply expanding the building on top of the hill up behind the power corporation.
It is where the water is treated for distribution within the Municipality.
Whether that is trucked service or utilidor service.
At the present time the capacity of that current facility is far exceeded by what it can do in terms of purification of water.
So this project is undertaken in response to health and safety concerns and I would have to get the full scope of the project.
We have been looking at it but I don't have the document with me here.
On that water treatment plant.
Like I said earlier there is a tremendous forced growth in this community and I don't know if there is a long term plan in this community, because this community could grow up to 10 thousand people in the next 10 or 15 years.
That means you are probably going to need twice as much water as you are doing now.
So I take it that when you are doing this study and upgrade of this treatment plant that you are taking a long term plan.
I would hope that you are working with the Municipality, the new city, to make sure that the money that we are spending now is not going to be wasted down the road where a few years from now the population increase again and you have to rebuild the facility.
So is all that being taken into consideration on this treatment facility.
Because it's very important.
Either Mr. Ferris or the Minister.
The current population projections and the future projections are being considered in looking at the scope of this project.
There has been some preliminary work done in terms of the capacity of the watershed and just how much water the water lake can hold.
The dam was raised about two or three years ago to build up some water.
But there is a study that's underway and this is contribution dollars that would go to the town.
They are the ones that are driving the project and there will be Town funds involved but I just can't give you the exact dollar amount.
Mr. Chairman, the formula that is used on this, has just been given to me by my engineer.
Thirty percent of the first 100 thousand, 20% of the next 900 thousand, and 10% of the rest, the balance of the project is what the Municipality's share would be on this particular capital project.
Perhaps if you could say thank you Mr. Chairman at the end of your sentence, then we could get your microphone turned off.
On the sewage treatment facility of 3 million 320 thousand this year for a total project cost of 5 million 345 thousand, and I suspect that's over a two year period.
Again, my questions are is this going to meet the needs of this community in the future, and again, is this community, that is the only tax based community in Nunavut, contributing anything to this project.
Ma'na Itsivauta.
I wonder Mr. Ferris if you could say thank you Mr. Chairman after your sentence, then you could have your microphone lit.
Thank you Mr. Ferris.
The project is nearing completion.
The 5 million 345 thousand total is the total out of a 7 million plus project.
So the balance of the dollars between what you see in this main estimate and what the actual contract with the company that built that is, would be municipal contribution amounts.
There was also because this is built to meet the projected growth, there was money as well from the federal infrastructure dollars in this project.
Before I ask my next question, I hope the Nunavut Government is as kind to the municipalities out there if they want to advance their dreams and wishes of having utilidors and items like that on the capital plan.
I am sure there is a policy in place that would help us if we want to put these types of services into less fortunate communities.
The second question is that it is nice to see solid waste management finally addressed in this community, like I said earlier it's an eyesore and it's also very smelly.
Is the 175 thousand dollar study that the Government of Nunavut is paying for, for the municipality for a total project cost of 3 million 400 thousand.
Is this going to address the situation that you have in this community for the foreseeable future and how much is the municipality contributing to this project.
Which one of you wishes to respond. Mr. Ferris.
Mr. Ferris: Thank you Mr. Chairman. The solid waste management study will look at options to open pit burning which no longer is environmentally acceptable in Iqaluit by the regulatory agencies.
The municipality would pay on the same formula as the figures that I gave you before.
That is a set formula for tax based municipalities for sharing in capital projects.
The final figure of 3.4 million may be less, may be more, it will be dependent on what comes out of the study in terms of the type of facility or plant that needs to be built and the location related to any potential road work that may have to be done.
I don't see any one else's hand going up here over Iqaluit so I will keep asking the questions.
In regards to paving roads, cost shared.
What kind of cost sharing agreement does the municipality or city have with the Nunavut Government.
What is it, 50 – 50, 70 – 30.
In answer to the question on the road paving, it is 50 – 50.
So our 20 thousand this year would be matched by the town putting up 200 thousand dollars. Thank you Mr. Chairman.
The rented vehicle that I have will really appreciate that.
Also on the 50 – 50 contribution.
If a community wanted to pave a street, would the department start to develop a policy.
Or are you thinking about developing a policy, where if we wanted to pave the road from the airport in Baker Lake to the town on a 50 – 50 cost share, would the department look at doing something like that.
If a community came to us and said this is what we are prepared to do based on that percentage, yes we would have to look at a proposal like that.
There is no other person on my list.
I will try to make this my last question.
I don't like to hog the microphone.
On the Nunavut incremental and seeing the dollars that are involved here, there is 4 million in capital this year going to Iqaluit and total capital projections are around 13 million dollars.
It seems to me that this community or this city missed the boat on the Nunavut incremental in regards to a few projects.
I know these projects are very important because I can tell by looking at the treatment plant, the sewage treatment facility and the solid waste management, that there is a bunch of regulatory issues there.
Probably when the Federal Government was in here doing their assessment of the town, they really missed out on a lot of this stuff.
It's unfortunate because I know that we can't go back to them now and say that we were short-changed on a lot of these things in regards to sewage treatment facilities and solid waste management and the dumps and paving of the roads.
This is our capital and I think it should be aesthetically pleasing to the people coming in.
In the future I will have a hard time agreeing with such an expenditure of capital dollars in one community for basic facilities, or basic needs that should have been filled by the Federal Government in the Nunavut incremental funding.
Because they did do a tour and they did an evaluation of communities in seeing what they needed for decentralization.
Like I say it is quite a large capital dollar outlay for a tax-based community in my opinion.
Before I finish my question here, I would like to have those figures that you quoted to me, 20 percent, and 30 percent because I would like to study them and have a look at them.
That's all the questions that I have today Mr. Chairman, thank you for your patience.
Which one of you will respond.
In terms of the Nunavut incremental infrastructure project, both the Government of the Northwest Territories prior to division and the Government of Nunavut never accepted the Federal position that 28 million dollars was sufficient for infrastructure in Nunavut.
That's still the position every time we meet with them, they still owe us money for incremental infrastructure.
There was no funding for PPD projects, there was no funding for nursing stations and so on.
However of the money that was allocated, the Municipality of Iqaluit got over 14 million of those dollars recognizing the major impact of growth on this community.
The middle school was totally funded from that infrastructure project, with some money coming from Education for some of the additional features that went in the basic program that was agreed to.
So in terms of the dollars that we did get the Municipality here got 50% of those and the balance was spent in the other growth, decentralization communities.
I have a question pertaining to Iqaluit sewage treatment facility.
Last year, I think this was recently constructed.
Did they have a major problem that they have to spend this amount of money on this treatment facility.
Chairperson (interpretation): Who is going to respond.
These dollars were put in the capital plan.
The Town has already expended these dollars on finishing the project and this will reimburse them our share in this fiscal year. The dollars to do the full project could not be accommodated in last year's capital plan.
So work has been completed.
The plant is still not operational and we are working with the Town and the engineering firm to look at getting it on line.
During the construction of the sewage treatment facility, I think it was the Minister of Health, I am sure that he is aware of this.
From what I heard outside the House, is that it was too close to the community.
So is this also in the planning stages, to relocate to another site.
The sewage treatment facility in question, I think we had to deal with this issue. I am sure the Minister of Health has a better idea about this.
We are not thinking of relocating this facility but the only area of relocation we are dealing with is the dumpsite being relocated to another site we don’t have any plans to relocate any other facility.
I am concerned about the issue of paving roads in Iqaluit.
The capital is in the Baffin and we have central offices in the Kitikmeot and the Keewatin, being Rankin Inlet and Cambridge Bay.
They do not have the same provisions for Rankin Inlet because their airports in Iqaluit and Rankin Inlet are paved airstrips.
I am wondering if there are going to be any paving projects for the Kitikmeot Region or is that the end of the planned paving.
At this time we don't have any plans for paving of roads or if we are going to do any paving of roads then we are going to have to receive some funding from the Federal Government.
This is a cost shared project.
Way before Iqaluit was the base for American Armed Forces and when they had DEW line site closures they decided the FOL would keep the airbase here in Iqaluit as well as in Churchill Manitoba.
For those reasons, FOL decided to keep the buildings here.
The roads were paved and it was mainly for American Armed Forces, and then it was handed over to the Canadian Armed Forces.
So if the Federal Government does not give us any money we will not have any plans to do any paving for our roads or our airstrips.
Chairperson (interpretation): If you are going to call please try and mute the mike in front of you because we have to consider our interpreter's ears.
So be aware of that. Thank you. Mr. Alakannuark, do you have further questions.
This is just a comment and not a question.
We have to treat all communities equally and that is why we raised this question because some of the communities do not have any pavement on their roads or airstrips.
I just wanted to raise that.
At this time do you have any more general comments concerning the contributions for the Baffin Region.
Contributions, total Baffin Region 4 million 838 thousand dollars.
The next page, 7-8.
Branch summary, detail of capital, Kivalliq Region.
Total Kivalliq Region 2 million 42 thousand dollars.
Under this item of 700 thousand, under Nuvuuk residential sub-division.
What is that project for.
As Rankin Inlet continues to grow, this if for the Nuvuuk residential sub division.
It is almost like a community within a community, and although it has been developed for the past year, the utilidor system is controlled by the hamlet.
At the same time the Nunavut Government has to pay for the supplies and the material ordered last year.
I am sorry it was not ordered last year but this is to finish off payment for the materials for the project.
This is to upgrade the utilidor system under the area 6, which it is called in Rankin Inlet.
It is to complete the utilidor system and the materials to pay for it.
Mr. Chairman on that same item I know it was a question that I asked about last year showing about 1.6 million dollars put in there last year.
Is that the total cost for the whole project.
The government put in more than that, 2.3 million dollars was the total cost of the project.
That project was started when the government was still in land development when the government put money towards that, when the project started in the early 90s and then land development was transferred to the hamlet.
The vast majority was paid by the municipality.
Right now the hamlet has paid 6.1 million dollars on that particular project.
They paid, since 1998, sixty-nine percent of the whole project itself.
The total project is about 13 million dollars.
There is 2 million dollars that are grantable projects themselves.
That is infrastructure that the government would have paid for themselves like forced mains and supply mains, but the hamlet has paid for 6.1 million dollars when the project is complete.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Ms. Keenainak. Mr. Tootoo.
Thank you, on that item and I stand to be corrected I thought that was the last.
I thought the explanation was last year that it was a project that had been initiated and a commitment that was honoured by the previous government to pay off and I didn’t realize this and I should have asked if there was any more money going into the project.
Any more money after this year going into the project or is that it for that project.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Tootoo. Ms. Keenainak.
Ms. Keenainak: For that particular project, no that's it.
Seven hundred thousand for this year.
There is nothing projected for future years.
Chairperson: (interpretation): Mr. Tootoo.
Just going back to the total project.
In the last 2 years since the 2.3 million dollars that we've provided towards it, has it cost the Hamlet of Rankin Inlet more than that or are those costs that were incurred prior to these contributions.
Chairperson: Thank you Mr. Tootoo. Ms. Keenainak.
Ms. Keenainak: I don't have the exact figures for 99/00 to 00/01 but the figures that I got from our office in Rankin was that the hamlet portion was 6.1 from 98/99, 01/02.
GNWT/Nunavut Government was 2.8.
Currently we are under the Kivalliq Region.
I was in Arviat last winter and they are building and constructing a new recreation hall, I believe it is a new recreation hall. I believe it is a new recreation or a community hall, Mr. Iqaqrialu if I make a mistake would you let me know.
I am wondering if this is for finishing off the community hall expansion.
The item under 550 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Yes Mr. Irqittuq you are correct.
Hon. Jack Anawak (interpretation): Last year the Hamlet of Arviat came to us and said that they would like to work on this project.
That was last year but the money that is in these books is scheduled for this year.
So the hamlet came back and asked for some funds so that they could start the project and they are going to have the grand opening May 15.
Anyway, they said that they could go ahead and come up with the dollars and go ahead and begin the construction.
Provided they can reclaim the money from the Nunavut Government.
At the time we said yes you can work on it if you come up with the dollars for the facility then we can reimburse you for your expenses.
So that is what happened and this is just money reimbursed to the hamlet for construction of that facility.
I would just ask the minister about this project and if it is going to be completed with their grand opening in May.
The expansion of the hall is something that I pushed for when I worked there and I know that it is desperately needed.
I'm glad to see that it is finally happened.
Mr. Chairperson the minister indicated that the community said that they were going to do it and the department said go ahead we will reimburse you next year on it.
I'm just wondering as far as the whole capital planning process, is that the way that this is going to develop.
Any community that wants to go ahead and do something will force the government to provide the capital to reimburse them for those projects.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Tootoo. Minister Anawak.
Hon. Jack Anawak: As was described earlier about the capabilities of the people of Arviat.
They had a surplus.
This was in the plans with the Nunavut Government, and it was in the plans of the old government of the territories.