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(interpreted) I just wanted to point those issues Mr. Speaker, the public out there, many people out there are expecting, they still have expectations let us not be scared of them, let us not be scared of them, because they are not scared of us, they just have expectations.
Let us at least review and try to review their expectations and try to work towards their expectations so that when we, the reason why we created Nunavut, we wanted to have a Government that runs more like Inuit culture.
(interpretation ends) Let me say, just an observation, the higher person, I do not necessarily disagree or agree with him, …(interpretation) …I observed an individual stating that when in observance of the Government and looking at the Ministers’ side and the Inuit Ministers have been shuffled to the other portfolios, but the other two non-native Ministers still hold their portfolios.
That is what the public observed and an individual said what they were feeling, they were wondering why the Inuit Cabinet Member’s portfolio had been shuffled when they did not do that.
I am just stating that because that has been observed by the public.
The public observes the Government and I am sure there are many more people out there that feel the same way and observes the Government like that.
So, at least, we should at least be more sensitive to the views of the public.
At times I know, we are Inuit people and we have a pretty good idea of what the needs and requirements are out there.
If we do not talk to the public, general public out there in the community, we will never know what their true feelings are.
Mr. Speaker, I wanted to point on these issues and I would like to thank my honourable Colleagues and I know that some of my honourable Colleagues did not really want to listen to me and some of them did not want to hear my response to the opening address.
But I expect, in conclusion, I expect that within this year, perhaps not in Baker Lake Session, that we at least should work towards achieving our goal.
We would like to ask the people, the general public out there, what type of Government would you like to see?
Are we going to achieve our goal?
As a Member if I elect you, are you going to achieve the goals of Inuit aspirations?
We need to ask these questions to the public out there.
Lastly, I would like to thank and also, although I have spoke about it here in Baker Lake, I have relatives and I have recognized an individual from Repulse Bay and my nephew and Mona Autut.
I know that Baker Lake is a very beautiful community, but as a shoreline, Inuit people, I know that you miss the shoreline, I know that when we were seal hunting in Repulse Bay, as I said that I was going to Baker Lake, when we started talking about heating and lighting fuel, Inuit people are very proud of Baker Lake residents because they have at least used their fish fat for heat and light because they are very capable of surviving and I would like to say that I am very proud of then for surviving and thank you, Mr. Speaker, very much for the opportunity to make my response.
Reports of Committees under Review of Bills.
Tabled Document 121 – 1(6): The Nunavut Arctic College Annual Report – 2001-2002
Although we almost fell asleep, I would like to table the following document.
(interpretation end) The Nunavut Arctic College Annual Report.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to table copies of the Nunavut Arctic College Annual Report 2002 in accordance with Section 18 of the Public Colleges Act for the fiscal year 2001/2002.
Tabled Document 122 – 1(6): Nunavut Tourism Business Plan 2003/2004
I would like to table the following document; Nunavut Tourism Business Plan 2003/2004.
Tabled Document 123 – 1(6): Response to Petition 006 – 1(6) – Unfair Rent Scale
Clerk: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the response to Petition 006-1 (6), filed with the office of the clerk by the Minister Responsible for the Nunavut Housing Corporation.
Motion 027 – 1(6): Extensions to Bill 36 An Act to Amend the Worker’s Compensation Act and Bill 37 An Act to Amend the Liquor Act
Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Friday June 6, 2003, I shall move the following motion;  I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Qamanittuaq that notwithstanding Rule 68(1), the Report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Services on the Review of Bill 36, an Act to Amend the Workers’ Compensation Act and Bill 37, an Act to Amend the Liquor Act be extended until such time as the committees have concluded their reviews.
Motion 028 – 1(6): Tabled Document 117 – 1(6) Utility Rates Review Council Report to the Minister and 118 – 1(6) Executive Summary Annual Report of the Nunavut Power Corporation to Committee of the Whole – Notice
Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Friday, June 6, I will move the following motion;
I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Qamanittuaq, that tabled documents 117-1(6) and 118-1(6), be moved into Committee of the Whole for discussion.
And Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will ask that my motion be dealt with today.
Item 15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills. Item 16.
Are there nays.
Motion 028 – 1(6): Tabled Document 117 – 1(6) Utility Rates Review Council Report to the Minister and 118 – 1(6) Executive Summary Annual Report of the Nunavut Power Corporation to Committee of the Whole
Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Honourable Member from Qamanittuaq that Tabled Documents 117-1 (6) and 118-1 (6) be moved into Committee of the Whole for discussion.
Second Reading of Bills. Item 19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters.
Bill 34, Bill 38, Bill 39, Minister’s Statements 126-1(6), 164 -1(6), 167- 1(6),  Tabled Documents 117-1(6) and 118-1(6).
Does the Members wish to proceed to Committee of the Whole, agreed?
Chairperson (Mr. Iqaqrialu)(interpretation): I call the meeting to order.
During Committee of the Whole we will deal with Bill 34, Bill 38, Bill 39, Minister Statement 126-1(6), Minister Statement 164-1(6), Minister Statement 167-1(6), Tabled Documents 117-1(6) and 118-1(6).These are the issues to deal with.
Ms. William.
The Committee would like to start with the Minister Statement 126-1(6).
The Minister for Human Resources, can go down to the Witness Table along with her official, Ms. Thompson.
Hon. Manitok Thompson (interpretation): Yes, I can go down to the Witness Table, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
Thank you for coming, Minister.
Introduce your officials, please.
My official for Kivalliq Region, for Human Resources, Jane Aupaluktuq, Thank you.
Yesterday, there were some more people to speak, is it okay for you to continue on from yesterday?
Mr. McLean: Mut’na, Mr. Chairman.
And I will try to make this promise to you again that I am trying to make my comments brief, but on this issue, I am hoping that I will keep them brief.
On the job descriptions, I was glad to see the Government come forward with this, very glad, because in my experience of representing one of the fourth largest community in Nunavut and also a decentralized community, I have seen a lot of changes in the last four years, I would like to think positive changes in this community, because it was a have not community for a long, long, long time, and we are finally getting some jobs and there are not a lot of jobs, there are 40 or 50 jobs, but I see the significant impact that it has made on this community.
I see more Hondas, I see more boats and motors, and I see more private homes.
I just see a lot more people working today, than what was working four years ago.
On that issue, I am glad that the Government is going to take away artificial barriers in regards to hiring people.
I do not want to point my constituents out, but David Samalik, who is vice-chair of the Nunavut Power Corporation, also he overlooks, he is President and CEO of four or five Inuit Development Corporations, and a successful businessman in Nunavut.
At one time, myself and him were both unemployed in 1991.
I am not scared to say that I was unemployed, I was and so was he.
We both applied for a job, an EEDO position.
I am not bragging I had fifteen years of business experience with Northern Stores and in the private sector.
A job opened up here.
I called David because I know that David was looking for a job because we had families and bills to pay.
I said, ‘Are you applying?
And he says yes, and then I said ‘Well I better not apply, he says no go ahead, apply Glenn, I encourage you.
Let us make sure that the best guy gets the job.
We were totally trusting of the Government.
I being the naive person that I am and trusting guy, yeah, okay, I will apply.
There was three applicants from Baker Lake and the applicant that they hired, in my humble opinion, according to me and David when we heard about it later, we figured that we were maybe just a tiny little bit more qualified.
I figured David would get the job because he is Inuk and I am a Qallunaaq, I am one of those guys yeah I think that they are making the right decision.
To our horror they gave it to someone that never even lasted four months in it.
We were hurt that we never even got an interview.
I am just saying from his experience and my experience and it makes you pretty bitter.
It makes you pretty bitter that you are trying to contribute to the community, you want to help people, and then when you come down to a simple little job, and I do not want to downplay this, a simple little job as an AEDO, because it is an important position, that you do not even get a consideration, a letter, a phone call about that.
That was in the old GNWT, Dave and I were really happy when Nunavut came along.
We were saying that maybe if we apply again, then maybe we have a better chance. I do not think that either one of us has applied for a job in Nunavut yet.
I know that a lot of people in this town that have applied for jobs.
I would like to think that sometimes when you live in a community and you talk to people and they are your neighbours, that you know them, and you work with them and hopefully you are fighting for them to get a job when they are unemployed because they have to feed their families also.
On that issue, I just want to put out a personal experience with a close friend of mine.
Maybe it did us good because if we had become AEDOs, we would probably be sitting there oppressing the business community, like what is happening now in Nunavut.
I am glad that we are not.
On that I am glad that the Department is looking at bringing down artificial barriers.
I just want to go on where I have got some concerns is when you are looking at the Health and Social Services, I do not think you can take down too many artificial barriers when it comes to Nurses or Teachers.
I think that there is a standard there that has to be protected and I am talking, we were talking about this before.
A problem that I have is when we sometimes bring in other professionals, and I am talking about counsellors.
There is a lot of Inuit people in this community, elders, and middle aged people, my age, that would make great counsellors, if they were given a little bit of training.
But because they do not have a University degree in brain technology, sometimes these people aren’t even get considered for training.
And they might only be unilingual and that’s another issue.
I think unilingual people are being discriminated against in Nunavut.
I’d say unilingual Inuit people.
Unilingual English speaker people aren’t but the unilingual Inuit people in my opinion are being discriminated against.
I wonder today, how it would be approached and I’d love to be on the interview process, I’d love to go in and see how its done.
If somebody applies for a job and their unilingual, how they’re graded.
There are a set of rules in an interview process and I'm not attacking the department or I'm not attacking the current minister, I'm not attacking Jane.
I'm just saying, there is an old manual that we probably inherited from the Government of the Northwest Territories with the point system Manitok, and you probably seen it.
Has that been converted to do this.
And the reason I say that is because I think when I look at the direct appointments that have been done in the last two or three years, it shows to me that maybe the government is right in reclassifying these 800 hundred job descriptions.
Because if the government direct appoints through cabinet and more and more people, I support that because it seems to cut through a lot of the red tape in the hiring process now.
So, I would encourage you when you’re looking at these artificial barriers that you know, when we get people that have been up here for a long, long, long time, doing the interview process and hiring. I'm talking about Inuit people.
I think you’ll see our Inuit employment go up.
But when we bring new people in from the south and they’re in on the interview process and they’re scoring and stuff like that, I don’t think they have the whole picture of the person’s life.
And when you get new people from the south, they come in and go, okay this is why she didn’t pass or this, according to a point system and like Janes been around for a long time and I think she’s very competent what she does and I know you are very competent and will do a good job in this.
So, when we’re doing these interviews or you’re doing these interviews for people try to take the whole picture in place that you know okay, they might not have grade 12 for a clerical position or they might have not have you know 60 words a minute that it specifies in a job classification, maybe they only have 30 or 40 words per minute.
I’m hoping that when you are redoing this that you’re looking at things like this; that a person can go on and improve their skills once they get that job.
And somebody said to me one day here in town, and I was a little upset, that development officers position was vacated for a couple of months and a young person applied and they said we can’t hire the young Inuit person because they don’t have the experience.
Well how is a young Inuit person in a place like Baker Lake going to get experience if they’re not given a part time job to try.
And I think I can speak for all of us and say that none of us have started out on any job where we’ve been perfect at it.
And the other issue I want, on the reclassification of these jobs and removing the artificial barriers.
I think today still and I keep saying it and I’ve looked around is training on the job still important?
Its very important so if you take a young person out of high school in Baker Lake or Rankin Inlet or Arviat or Pond Inlet and they’re applying for a job, I would really hope in my heart that they might not have all the qualifications that somebody in the south has but why not put them in there in a training position so they can come through.
Its called investing in our futures and investing in our children.
So, you know this is in the clerical, the book keeping and stuff like that.
That if we can build that, I hate that word capacity, but if we can build the expertise in our communities you know be taking young people and brining them through the system and training them and having some patience with them, then we’ll get our IEP numbers up.
I’d like to start off with, I have a similar things what my colleague had said because I use to be a social worker for 14 years and after I resigned I applied for a counsellor’s job where we can just go and I was told that I have to go further training for two more years.
If I don’t want to go for further training that job would be deleted.
I don’t expect this government will do the same thing.
After being a social worker for 14 years and being told that you have to go for further training for an extra two years is a little too much.
I’m very proud.
In Grise Fiord, Arctic Bay, Resolute Bay, just recently, there were long service awards and I saw Mr. Puqiqnak given an award for a long service person and there were many people who were given long service awards for 5-30 years of service.
They did the same thing in Iqaluit.
I think this is going to be very beneficial for those who are going to be contributing services for the government for many years.
The majority of people who received the long services awards were women.
There were very few men.
They were the clerks, the interpreters.
The Health Centres employees were given awards and this is was a proud moment for me to see all these women.
I’d like to elaborate more on those people who do casual work for a few months and then they go back to work because they are only casual employees.
There are a lot of casual employees in Iqaluit.
I am sure there would be a lot more Inuit casually employed.
Sometimes these casuals are on their job for six months or a year and then they’re actually appointed to full time positions.
When Inuit are not applying for jobs, it’s very uplifting to see an Inuk applying for managerial positions.
There are many people in Iqaluit who work casually in Iqaluit.
The second one I’d like to talk about is to help you.
When there was a pan arctic oil exploration in the high arctic, there used to be a person who did the job evaluations on work performance and there was an employment counsel who did the evaluations.
That person would talk to that person because like, Mr. Anawak, because it’s spring time right now, there are people who want to go out seal hunting.
For those people who are casually employed, and they just leave their casual employment due to the fact they want to go out hunting.
It would be nice to have a job evaluator who would be able to talk to these people because whether if there was a Qallunaat manager or an Inuk manager, if there’s a problem between the employee and the manager, then that person will tend to resign or quit their jobs; sometimes that person, who the employment counsellor would be very beneficial for this government.
Mr. Alakannuark (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Thank you, colleagues and Ms. Thompson.
Very briefly, not for those with the job description, it is not too long ago, and I am sure that he or she would not do that, the only way to get the proper employment within the government was if you had certifications or if journeyman certificates and these are the barriers that we do have.
And with the airbrakes it is sometimes airbrakes licence you require class three licence.
And those people who are well educated tend to pass the, between 1970-75, there were people who were readily available to work and they unilingual people and those people were not qualified but they were able to do the work properly.
But, and I know for a fact, there is a unilingual mechanic in my community who has been on the job since 1976 and is still our mechanic and who is a unilingual person.
And up to date there are a lot of people who are unemployed, especially middle aged people.
And it is impossible for the middle aged people to get employment.
And, I myself was employed for a total of twenty-three years as fuel truck driver and I was sort of a mechanic but I am although without a certificate I was able to do some mechanical work.
For instance I know that when you work with different kinds of fuels, fuel, gas, or diesel, you can tell the difference between the fuel oil, and diesel oil, and I know that we never had bad gas in my community, I know the Inuit and I know for a fact that they can do a job better than a qualified or a certified person.
There are people who are able to work in the community are unemployed due to the fact that they are uneducated.
We are going to have to start thinking about these people who are not fully educated.
And will we, we as Inuit, we tend to look at a person, okay, he can do the job, but although, because sometimes the Government does not care about us whatsoever.
And what we would like to be able to see is the people in our communities to be employed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Chairperson: Thank you Mr. Alakannuark I do not have anyone else on my list for general comments.
So if there are no further general comments we will all move onto questions.
If there are any questions, comments, if not Mr. Tootoo.
Mr. Tootoo: In recognizing the panel there are no questions I would like to move that we report progress.
The Speaker can now return to the chambers.
Thank you, Mr. Minister, we will see you again.
>>Sergeant-at-Arms
Reports of the Committee of the Whole.
Chairperson (interpretation): Mr. Speaker, your Committee has been considering Minister Statement 126-1(6) and would like to report the committee is still considering the Minister Statement.
There is a motion on the floor, is there a seconder for the motion?
Mr. Puqiqnak will second the motion.
First of all, some announcements for tomorrow morning 8:00, the meeting at the Management Services Board, please bring your binder that was given to you by the page.
9:30 Meeting of the Standing Committee on Health and Education.
Both meetings will take place in the Nunamiut Hotel Board Room.
Orders of the Day for Thursday, June 5th:
Motion 023-1(6)
Motion 024-1(6)
Motion 025-1(6)
Bill 38
Bill 39
Minister’s Statement 126-1 (6)
Minister’s Statement 164-1 (6)
Minister’s Statement 167-1(6)
Tabled Document 117-1(6)
Tabled Document 118-1(6)
Just a few housekeeping items to pass onto the Members.
The Ballet lessons for the Members will be cancelled this evening, except the softball game, will be cancelled, but instead there will be supper at Norman Attungala’s house and that is house #179 near the Anglican Church and also the Baker Lake Youth Parliament will start tomorrow morning at 11’O’Clock and that is 11 instead of 10.
And the barbeque afterwards will be held at the school, instead of the Heritage Centre.
This House stands adjourned until Thursday June 5, 2003, at 1:30 p.m.
>>House adjourned at 18:05 p.m.  Nunavut Canada
DAY 56
Thursday June 5, 2003
Pages 3711 – 3791
Opening Prayer 3711
Ministers’ Statements 3711
Members’ Statements 3715
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery 3728
Speaker’s Ruling 3732
Oral Questions 3733
Written Questions 3752
Reports of Standing and Special Committees 3753
Tabled Document 3754
Motions 3754
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters 3756
Report of Committee of the Whole 3789
Third Reading of Bills 3789
Orders of the Day 3790
Thursday June 5, 2003 3711
173 – 1(6): CG&T Update (Kilabuk) 3711
174 – 1(6): Skills Canada Competition (Ng) 3712
175 – 1(6): Nunavut Families Volunteer to Advance Lung Research (Picco) 3713
176 – 1(6): Shrimp Quota Expansion in Shrimp Fishing Area 1 (Davis Strait/Baffin Bay) (Akesuk) 3714
563 – 1(6): Keewatin Air RFP Medivac Contract (Arvaluk) 3715
564 – 1(6): Marine Mammals Economic Opportunities (Iqaqarialu) 3716
565 – 1(6): Recognition of Ranger Aqiattusuk and Ranger Manasie (Williams) 3717
566 – 1(6): Seasonal Employment Opportunities - Awarding of Contracts at the Local Level (Irqittuq) 3717
567 – 1(6): Flight Schedules and Services in Kugluktuk (Havioyak) 3718
568 – 1(6): Dominant Air Carriers (McLean) 3719
569 – 1(6): Adult Learning Strategy (Puqiqnak) 3720
570 – 1(6): Mad Cow Disease Impact on Country Food Producers (Anawak) 3721
571 – 1(6): Improvement on Medivac Services (Alakannuark) 3721
572 – 1(6): Cabinet Portfolio Changes and Impact on Unfinished GN Business (Nutarak) 3722
573 – 1(6): The Need for More Staff in the Libraries (Tootoo) 3723
574 – 1(6): Golf Tournament in Cape Dorset (Akesuk) 3723
575 – 1(6): Environmental Protection from Mining and Hydro Development (Kattuk) 3724
576 – 1(6): Constituency Meeting (Picco) 3725
577 – 1(6): Respecting Elders and Their Knowledge (Thompson) 3726
578 – 1(6): B-B Gun Shooting Accident (Kilabuk) 3727
562 – 1(6): Update on Photo Identification (Nutarak) 3733
563 – 1(6): Task Force on Community Healing (Williams) 3735
564 – 1(6): Community Access Road Program (McLean) 3738
565 – 1(6): Power Subsidy Program (Tootoo) 3740
566 - 1(6): Airline Transportation Study (Havioyak) 3741  567 – 1(6): Medivac Services – More Than One Airline (Anawak) 3742
568 - 1(6): Renewable Resources (Iqaqrialu) 3745
569 – 1(6): Training Strategy (Puqiqnak) 3747
570 – 1(6): Awarding of Contracts (Irqittuq) 3750
571 – 1(6): Use of more Airlines for Medical in the Kivalliq Region (Arvaluk) 3751
014 – 1(6): Status of the Proposed Manitoba Kivalliq Road Link (McLean) 3752
015 – 1(6): Manitoba/Kivalliq Road Link(McLean) 3753