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The reason I ask that question, as Member of the Legislative Assembly for Cambridge Bay, I don’t know that the schedule is.
I had heard that it was going to be finished by October 15th then November 15th.
Now I’m hearing March so I don’t know if it is on schedule so I thought I’d ask that question.
Can the minister tell us if their Department of Finance has made a decision on how they are going to finance the new building?
Or, are they planning to lease it?
From what I understand in terms of when the building will be completed is January.
There has been no decision yet made how what arrangement will be made for that facility in term so of managing or what not.
I believe there has been some discussions that have been initiated how we will proceed with that, but at this stage in time, there is no decision.
Can the minister indicate or tell us when you expect a decision to be made on whether to build or own versus lease.
That decision will be made within the next couple of months.
Mr. Chairman, on there, there is $25,000 carry over for renovations at the regional hospital here.
I know that there is a need for a great many renovations at the hospital there.
I’m just wondering if the minister has a list of what that what renovation projects that $25,000 consists of.
In the fiscal year 2003-04, 103 was allocated for minor renovations at the Baffin Regional Hospital, and the carryover from that amount is $25,000.
I think that anyone that walks into the Baffin Regional Hospital will see that the entrance area has been completely redone, where there is much more privacy in the lobby area where people and patients wait to see their doctors.
I believe that is the project that the member is referring to.
I guess if there is still a $25,000 in there, does that means that there is more work that has to be done in that area.
From what I understand, again that is a carry over from the project from one fiscal year to the other, whatever project remains in that area that will be covered by this cost.
I don’t know if the Minister of Health might be able to give it a better breakdown of what that $25,000 is going to go for.
Is that going to be to further enhance the conditions at the entrance area and the waiting area at the Baffin Regional Hospital?
Or is it for some other renovations?
This is not an enhancement to the project.
This is to complete the project of the Baffin Regional Hospital.
The original amounts are located in the 2003-04 appropriation for the renovation project was $103,000, his is the balance remaining that needs to be carried over into the 2004-05 year.
I think the minister, herself had indicated that if you walked in there you would see that things have changed quite a bit and that is true but they are not working in there anymore.
What I am getting at is it looks like they are done.
If they are not done, what else are they going to be doing in there?
The project is the same project, and this whole basis would be from the safety budget document to ensure that we follow rules to transfer funding that are remaining in an old fiscal year, that we are not spent, gets transferred to the new year so the project could be completed.
There is the requirement to transfer funding that is remaining in one fiscal year to another fiscal year.
So it will be to complete that project, if it has not already been completed.
I don’t expect the Minister of Finance to know whether that project is complete or not.
The Minister of Health and Social Services is here, if she could indicate whether or not that project is complete.
This is just in fact money that have not yet been invoiced or paid out that is being carried over?
I tried answering that question twice.
Perhaps the Minister of Health and Social Services can confirm if the project is completed or not.
Yes, the project has been worked on for over two years and I think they are finalizing it now.
It is not quite completed but it is near completion.
Mr. Tootoo: Thank you for making that very clear, Madame Minister.
Maybe if you could indicate as I asked if it wasn’t complete, what still has to be done up there because as you know yourself, and anyone that has been in there lately, that they are no longer doing any work in there.
So I am just wondering what else is yet to be done.
I said before the funding is transferred from one year to the next year.
It’s to complete the projects for the renovation of the hospital area.
For all that I know the project could be completed at this point but in terms of accounting for those dollars from one fiscal year to the next fiscal year, when there is a balance at the end of one fiscal year, there is the requirement to transfer the project funding to another fiscal year.
So, in terms of whether it’s done, or not. It may be done.
The Minister of Health and Social Services, again, could probably respond to that better than I can.
What my understanding is that there is very minor stuff left over to do.
This project was initiated by then the Minister before me, Minister Picco.
Mr. Tootoo: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, very much for that Minister for providing some clarity to that.
Just for the Minister of Finance’s sake, that is what I was trying to get at.
I knew that she wouldn’t know whether or not a project was complete or what had yet to be done there.
That is all that I was trying to find out.
We can’t expect someone to know everything.
Too bad that is why the other ministers are here and that is what all the members asked in advance to make sure that they would be here to be able to answer those questions, and not to be deflective about information.
Mr. Chairman, my next question, and maybe the Minister of Finance or the Minister of Health will be able to answer it.
There is $108,000 being carried over for Hospital Code Evaluation and Design. How much of the total project that was approved for that and is this all tied to the code changes that will be required as a result of the attachment to the new Regional Hospital that is being built up there?
The original invested for that project was $804,000 again to continue on with the project, it is an ongoing project.
The balance from one fiscal year to the next fiscal year is what being proposed to transfer to the fiscal year 2004-05.
The amount of that is $108,000.
The other part of my question was is that a result of the code changes that will be required as a result of the new hospital being attached to the existing hospital?
As far as I know that is the project.
On page 9.
Health and Social Services Capital.
Total. Directorate.
Special warrants. $30,635,000.
Chairman: Total. Department. $30,635,000.
Chairman: Page 10.
Program Development.
Special warrants. $908,000.
In here there is $46,000 in there for the Sylvia Grinnell Park.
I am just wondering if this is funding that is being carried over to the bridge that is supposed to be built over the river in the park?
The $46,000, yes it is a carry over from one fiscal year to the next fiscal year.
Whether that is for the bridge, I don’t know.
Maybe Mr. Akesuk may be able to answer that.
This is mainly for upgrading the Sylvia Grinnell Park poster and discussion on the bridge with the federal government that we are trying to figure out how much money will be used from the government.
I believe that there are people that are involved from the community that is doing also fundraising to make sure that we have a bridge coming for the Sylvia Grinnell.
I think we still don’t have the actual amount of money that we will be spending for the bridge, so this is for other various projects that are outstanding in the park.
Mr. Tootoo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am a little concerned to hear that comment from the Minister of Environment.
I don’t know if there was an appropriation for that particular project made in this House in the past, or there was some, and I am pretty sure that there was, it’s not in here.
The bridge isn’t there so where is the money that was appropriated for that?
Also wasn’t there any other kind of contributions made for that project from outside sources as well?
Hon. Leona Aglukkaq: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe the Minister responsible for the Environment can discuss or provide more information on projects that have been discussed, or what not.
I am not prepared to respond to that.
It has been there for a while but the money that Mr. Tootoo is referring is the $25,000 that are to remember from the past that we used that money to get a feasibility study, where we are going to put in the bridge and how it is going to be built.
We have already done the feasibility study.
We are just waiting for an answer from the federal government on how we are going to get the funding from them or how they are going to help us out in building the bridge.
The Fundraising Committee for the bridge, we are still working with them, they still have their money somewhere that is stashed to help us out with the funding.
Mr. Tootoo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is my understanding that the whole budgeting process in the capital plan is initially, as the Minister has indicated, that there was design, basically a feasibility study being done.
There should have been some funding followed up with that for either design or the construction phases.
That is the usual process that that follows.
I guess if that is something, like the Minister had indicated, that the project has fallen off, or when can we expect to see some money in the capital budget to finish off the project?
I believe that my colleague mentioned that there has been some discussions and follow ups in regards to that feasibility study to see if there are any outside source funding to could provide support to developing that bridge.
We all say that we are short of funding for capital, housing, and what not, and this is one of those projects that can perhaps be funded in partnership with the federal government, and I believe that the Minister indicated that the study is completed to initiate discussions with the federal government.
I imagine with whatever the outcome may be of those discussions will result in the next steps we take as a territorial government, whether to proceed partially funded, or fully funded, and what not.
I believe that he indicated that those discussions are ongoing.
The other part of that question that I previously asked was any idea when we can expect to see that, in any type of form in the budgeting process.
When are we actually going to see something happening down there?
Just two days ago we approved the fiscal year 05-06 capital project, I don’t believe that it is in that. Depending on how it goes with the discussions with the federal government, perhaps in this fall’s upcoming capital projects. That will also depend on the minister himself.
Maybe the actual minister responsible would be able to give a better idea of when we could see that project starting to move ahead.
We still don’t have the actual dates yet, but we are much closer than we were last year.
The costs of the bridge with different numbers that we played around with, I think that we’ll probably have something in mind in a year or two on the budget.
Just a question and probably a quick answer here.
How many visitor’s centers do we have in Nunavut?
I see that there is $62,000 budgeted for carryovers.
Hon. Leona Aglukkaq: Mr. Chairman, I don’t have that listing and I believe that the minister is the better person to respond to that.
I took my binder up there earlier during the break and I didn’t take them back down.
There are a few visitors’ centers and I could give you the numbers once I get the numbers, even before this session is over, just now.
Chairman: Thank you, Minister Akesuk.
It just occurred to me when you put a note Nunavut various, and you put visitors’ centers, I think it should be a little bit clearer.
Is the money used for all the visitors’ centers, or is it for a specific project that you have in mind?
That is what I was looking for clarification on, Mr. Chairman.
The member raised a good comment and we’ll try and address that in future documentation.
Perhaps that is also the information that the Minister of Environment mentioned that he would try and provide it and include it in there, for any future supplementary appropriation bills to try and provide more specific information.
Total program development.
Chairman: Total department. $908,000.
Looking down the list I see that the one that jumped out at me is the Government of Nunavut – Iqaluit contribution agreement of $3,306,000.
Why did that funding have to be carried over?
What was the problem there with the city?
Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Peterson. Minister Aglukkaq.
From what I understand the city has been developing its capacity to deliver the project.
Work is now proceeding on major projects, including sewage plants in the next year.
There should be substantial work in that area.
This came up here in the Committee of the Whole, when we had the minister here.
He told us that the annual contribution is $4 million but the city had to match the funding of their own, and all the projects had to be approved by the Department of Community and Government Services.
When I saw that large figure jump out in there, if they are getting only $4,000,000 and they are carrying over more than three quarters, I think that should be a concern to us.
I will note his concern and pass it on to the Minister responsible for Community and Government Services.
Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) Mr. Evyagotailak.
I just wanted to ask a question on that $36,000 on Kugluktuk’s replaced water supply line.
I am just wondering whether the water supply line is completed.
The Kugluktuk project was a project that has been completed last year and the funding for it is for the final detail work.
What is the status of the Nanisivik facility’s technical evaluation; is there going to be any funding available for that?
Is the member referring to the amount $157,000?
No, under page 11, Nanisivik, there is $157,000 and I wanted to know what the status of that is.
And thank you for that clarification.
From what I understand and the information I have in front of me is that the technical evaluations of the buildings were completed last year and the funding for that amount is being carried to continue to work to determine how the materials might be salvaged for use by Arctic Bay community.
Chairman: Thank you. (interpretation) We are on page 11, (interpretation ends) Community and Government Services Capital, Branch, Capital Planning and Technical Services, (interpretation) turn the page, (interpretation ends) Special Warrants, Total Capital, Planning and Technical Services, Special Warrants, $10,782,000, (interpretation) do you agree?
I just want a clarification on the note there to provide funding of $1,543,000 for tenant improvements costs, moving costs, and other various costs to determine departmental, and other related costs to address departmental space requirements in Iqaluit.
Could the minister clarify why the Government of Nunavut needs to spend this amount of money?
He doesn’t understand it. Can you clarify that?
The funding that the member refers to again is tenant improvements and moving costs related to office space requirements in the community and basically, that covers the Inuksugait Plaza, as well as 1079 Brown Building Second Floor, as well movement of office from one to the other.
Which departments are involved in this expenditure?
There are four other departments involved in that.
Is any of this funding related to the March 2004 reorganization?
With the reorganization, there were no additional PY’s with those changes.
It’s basically to accommodate better what was already in place.
Can the minister give us, in a bit more detail, a breakdown that the $1,543,000 paid for?
I can go through the list here.
The $10,079 on the building, the total is $27,500.
For the Inuksugait Plaza, it is $616,000 and the other amount for $675,000 and another additional funding for $10,079 for another amount of $224,000.
I just found that odd that you stick a bullet note with few words in there. I did a calculation, 22 where it’s $70,136 per word.
When we see these things and that should probably be in a bit more detail in the future.
Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Peterson. (interpretation ends) I don’t think that was a question.
I would just like to ask a question on page 11 on the Kugluktuk replacement water supply line and on page 12 there is another one for Kugluktuk replaced water tank.
Is that completed?
The information I have in regards to the Kugluktuk water tank, basically there has been some delays in completing that project due to weather and the transfer of the funding will be to complete that project.
And just below that, there is a sewage lagoon.
Is this for the study or is it to start up the sewage lagoon in Kugluktuk for $19,000?
The study was delayed as has now been determined and design work is underway.
Page 12, Total Capital, Planning and Technical Services, Special Warrants, $10,782,000, (interpretation) do you agree?
Chairman: Not previously authorized, $1,393,000, (interpretation) do you agree?
Chairman: Page 13, Branch, Petroleum Products, Total Petroleum Products, Mr. Peterson.
Could the minister update us on the status of the Cape Christian environment impact study?
There is $300,000 there.
Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, very much Mr. Peterson. (interpretation ends) Minister Aglukkaq.
In going through the information I have, I don’t have the listings from the department outlining the status of that project itself.
Again, this is to transfer the funding that had been previously approved in one fiscal year, but I apologize to the member and I will commit to getting that information for you.
Yes, it would be good if I could get that information as soon as possible for all of us on this side.
I will commit to the members to get a status report on the construction phases on items on page 13.
We are on page 13, Branch, Petroleum Products, Total Petroleum Products, Special Warrants, $3,979,000, (interpretation) do you agree?
Chairman: Total Department, Special Warrants, $14,761,000, (interpretation) do you agree?
Chairman: Page 14, Economic Development and Transportation Capital, Mr. Barnabas.
Mr. Barnabas: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. $3,549,000 is being requested as capital carryovers for numerous Department of Economic Development and Transportation projects.
Which of these projects are over budget or behind schedule?
The status of these projects, I can’t speak to that.
I don’t have that information, but I can just for the record, that the amounts that are listed here were previously approved in one fiscal year and are being transferred to the 2004-05 fiscal year, but I will ask my colleague to respond to Mr. Barnabas’ question.
I don’t have the information on which projects are over budget, but most of them are completed now and have been completed in this fiscal year.
For example, Qikiqtarjuaq’s replacing airfield lighting is completed, the TCAP Government of Nunavut funding component, $300,000 was delivered.
Resolute Bay is completed; Igloolik is completed; Qikiqtarjuaq airport garage is in progress; Iqaluit regulatory infrastructure is repairing work, it’s in progress; Coral Harbour is completed, that’s rehabilitating the airport garage; the Coral Harbour airport earthworks has been completed; Rankin Inlet completed; Bathurst Inlet road and port is ongoing; Pond Inlet, construction is underway; Chesterfield Inlet access road is almost completed; the Coral Harbour airport terminal is in progress; $10,000 is to be reallocated to ATB projects; in Gjoa Haven, work is underway; the studies of the habitat and Manitoba road are completed; and the ATB design engineering studies have been completed.
What specific budget will be $300,000 in TCAP reports funding be used for?
I don’t have that actual information with me right now, but I can certainly provide it.
Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Barnabas.
I also want to thank the minister for giving me some information. (interpretation ends) What exactly is the $77,000 in airport regulatory infrastructure in Iqaluit going to be used for?
Hon. David Simailak: That was work that had to be done because of new regulations imposed by the Canadian Air Transport Safety Security Authority.
It’s work that had to be done in the terminal building to bring it up to code, up to the new regulations after September 11th.
Those infrastructure projects will be $438,000 for those Strategic Highway Infrastructure Programs? What will this funding be used for?
Which line was he asking about please?
Chairman: Mr. Barnabas, which line were you asking about?
Under Nunavut various Strategic Highway Infrastructure Program, $438,000 line item.
Hon. David Simailak: I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. I am not able to get the two pieces of paper to match up here.
Give me just one second, please.
I believe that is that ongoing work of the construction of the Pond Inlet air terminal building.
What specific project is the $184,000 in feasibility studies that is being used to look at?
Hon. David Simailak: That was work done on the Manitoba-Nunavut road feasibility study that’s going on.
A portion of that work has been completed, and also it included the fish habitat study that was being done in Clyde River.
Under Nanisivik Highway upgrade, what is that going to be used for?
I need that clarification.
Hon. David Simailak: Yes, that is for regular maintenance on the highway itself.
My last question, (interpretation ends) what is the status of the Bathurst road and port study?
Yes, that study is ongoing.
We’re on page 14.
Department of Economic Development and Transportation. Capital.
Transportation. Total Transportation.
Special Warrants. $3,549,000.
Chairman: Total department.
Chairman: Page 15.
Total Nunavut Housing Corporation not previously authorized. $200,000.
Chairman: Total Nunavut Housing Corporation. $200,000.
Chairman: Turn to page 2. Page 2.
Summary of Appropriation.
Total Capital Appropriation. $56,537,000.
Chairman: Move on to Bill 3.
Capital Act, Number 2. 2004-05.
Definition clause 1.
Chairman: Application.
Go to Schedule Page 2.
Supplementary Amount.
Appropriated for fiscal year ending March 31, 2005.
Vote one.
Total Capital. $56,537,000.
Chairman: Total Supplementary Appropriation. $56,537,000.
Chairman: Supplementary Appropriations, Clause 3.
Chairman: Notice of Appropriation.
Chairman: Lapse of Appropriation.
Chairman: Announcements.
Chairman: Does the committee agree to Bill 3 as a whole?
Chairman: Are you agreed that Bill 3 is ready for third reading?
Chairman: I would like to thank Minister Aglukkaq and her staff.
Madame Minister, do you have any closing comments?
I would like to thank my Deputy Minister, Bob Vardy, as Paul Reddy, Director of Expenditure Management for all their support.
I also want to thank the Department of Finance employees as well as all the departments for assisting in this process.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you very much, Madame Minister, for all the good responses to the questions that were posed during the committee of the whole session.
Mr. Reddy: You want to make a wish.
As I indicated yesterday that wish was just out there already.
So, right now, I would like to move that we report progress.
We have a motion on the Floor to report progress and the motion is not debatable.
All those in favour of the motion, please raise your hand.
Those abstaining.
Your committee has been considering Bill 2 and Bill 3 and would like to report progress that Bills 2 and 3 are immediately ready for third reading.
I move that the report of the committee of the whole be agreed to.
Speaker (interpretation): There is a motion on the Floor. Is there a Seconder?
Bill 1 – Supplementary Appropriation (Operations and Maintenance) Act, No. 4 2003-2004 – Third Reading
I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Iqaluit West, that Bill 1. Supplementary Appropriation, Operations and Maintenance Act 4, 2003-04 be read for the third time.
Bill 2 – Supplementary Appropriation (Operations and Maintenance) Act, No. 2 2004-2005 – Third Reading
I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Rankin Inlet South and Whale Cove, that Bill 2. Supplementary Appropriation, Operations and Maintenance Act 2, 2004-05 be read for the third time.