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Mr. Chairman, the minister has answered that the request came from the community, have the other decentralized communities been made aware of the possibility of making a request for such stuff.
Again I couldn’t answer that because Community Government and Transportation has the lead role in working with municipalities and identifying and trying to meet their needs.
Mr. Chairman, I’d like to ask the minister if he could ask the appropriate minister to provide that information to members as soon as possible after the session.
We are not planning to do consultation with the communities to see whether they need heavy equipment.
But the loader in Pangnirtung was having problems and it required a lot of maintenance.
Because of that the mayor approached us and a heavy equipment mechanic supervisor came to us with a request because they were due for new equipment.
But if we had a supplement, if there is an urgent need for something then we could use our surplus to purchase all the heavy equipment required.
The reason why we made a special case out of this was because they needed a loader for the winter.
Chairperson (interpretation): We are on 12.
If I could ask the minister, did the department take a look at other decentralized communities if they had similar type problems in their communities.
If it is an issue in one community one would think that you want to make sure that it is not a problem that is going to be run into in the other decentralized communities as well.
Just a brief comment.
The communities usually request what they want.
I wonder if Minister Anawak can elaborate more on this.
Hon. Jack Anawak: The loader, as pointed out by the Minister of Finance, it was probably from 1987.
Pangnirtung is particularly important in terms of snow clearing because the sewage lagoon is three kilometres away and there is not an opportunity to just go through any place if there happens to be a storm.
The mayor at the time, and the foreman, felt that this was important.
It had already been on their five year plan previously, but when the Government of Nunavut took over it got off. So the Mayor of Pangnirtung came to Community Government and Transportation along with his foreman and we looked at it and determined that yes, Pangnirtung should get that.
But we do not solicit from the communities instead what we do is have an ongoing consultation, ongoing working relationship with the communities so that if they do indeed need to do this then we are open to working with them.
We are on Page 12.
If there are no questions, we will go on to 13.
Are there questions on 13.
Mr. Arvaluk: Thank you.
It might be more general than specific but I will use page 14 as a reference point.
Here you have a transfer of 39 thousand dollars from Culture, Language, Elders & Youth to Public Works to implement the centralization telephone expenses.
Is this just a contribution from Culture, Language, Elders & Youth to Public Works to implement centralization expenses.
Is this just a contribution from Culture, Language, Elders & Youth to Public Works to look after the government telephone centralization or is it what it costs Culture, Language, Elders & Youth to participate for their own telephones to become part of the centralization.
If this is just to take away the funds from Culture, Language, Elders & Youth and this is funded very small compared to other departments, it might effect them quite substantially.
Can I get an explanation from the minister, which is it, just a contribution or is it what Culture, Language, Elders & Youth needed to be part of the centralization of the telephone system.
Mr. Chairman, this is, as members know, part of the whole Mitel telephone system that has been installed for the Government of Nunavut and what it is, each department has a certain portion of their budget for telephone services and that is all being sent over to Public Works to pay on behalf of all departments.
It is all pro-rated basically based on 1 thousand dollars per employee.
I believe that the deputies agreed to that as an allocation amount from each department for telephone services.
So the total going to Public Works overall is 1 million 460 thousand dollars and it is made up from different departments, the bigger the department the more the contribution to Public Works.
Mr. Arvaluk: Mr. Chairman, pro-rated at approximately 1 thousand dollars per employee.
Do we have 39 employees in Culture, Language, Elders & Youth.
Yes, Mr. Chairman, it is based on budgeted person years for each department.
They are funded for their O&M, by the same token based on their total person years within the department.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Minister Ng. We are on page 14.
Page 15.
Questions. If there are no questions, we will continue to page 16.
Page 17.
Mr. Chairman, this one here I am very delighted to see those technical positions going back to the Housing Corporation.
I am just wondering how many PY's that equates to.
Those technical positions that are going back and where they are going to.
Is it headquarters or is it to the different regions.
Mr. Chairman, there are 11 positions, I am not exactly sure where and which part of the Housing Corporation organization they are going to but we can provide that information.
Mr. Chairman, I am just wondering if that number of positions is the same amount of technical positions that moved out of the Housing Corporation when the different amalgamations were taking place and in the same amount going back or whether there are more or less.
I believe it is roughly the same, I can't be certain if it is the exactly the same amount.
Are there more PY's to be transferred to Housing Corporation from Public Works or elsewhere after this one.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Ng. We are on 18.
On to page 19.
Any questions on page 19.
The next page 21.
There are no questions.
Page 23.
Mr. Chairman, if I can get a breakdown of the 1.9 million dollars that was not previously approved.
The 35 thousand dollars is for the Gjoa Haven water supply.
One point nine million dollars is for the Kugaaruk access road.
Three hundred thousand dollars for legal surveys in the Kivalliq, and 465 thousand is the breakout of mobile equipment, Qikiqtarjuaq water supply, planning study Gjoa Haven, retrofit to the fire hall Kugluktuk is 90, new projects Iqaluit 50, Pangnirtung new loader 225.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Ng. We are on page 23.
If there is nothing further we will move to page 24.
Questions, comments. No questions.
We will then move on to page 25.
The Clyde River breakwater, which I am not arguing, they probably need it very much, however there is also a very dangerous situation now in Chesterfield Inlet which some members have already visited.
There have been great boulders that have been falling off and it is extremely dangerous to off load there.
So it has not been used.
What is the difference between that kind of situation that needs work immediately and this one.
How are they classified differently.
The situation of Clyde River carry-over request here in a special warrant as I identified earlier, this was a capital project from 1999-2000 that we carried over to 2000-2001 and used the special warrant for that financing.
For the situation the member refers to, if there are additional needs for emergency situations that have been identified in any community and he cites Chesterfield Inlet as an example, then the appropriate department would put together the submission if they supported it and try to move forward either through a regular appropriation in the regular capital planning process or through a special warrant if they felt if it was an emergency situation, safety risk etc.
So that would depend on the department working with the community in trying to identify how they want to deal with that issue.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Ng. We are on page 25.
If there are no questions we will move on to page 26.
Turning on to page 27. Page 27.
No comments. Page 28. No questions.
Mr. Tootoo: Sorry Mr. Chairman, my question was on page 28.
Mr. Chairman, as the minister indicated earlier these types of special warrants and things like that are either for carry over of particular projects or emergencies.
I am just wondering how come on the breakdown there it has various for the different regions.
I am wondering if we can get a breakdown of what those projects are in those regions.
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Mr. Chairman, as you know these were put forward by the Department of Health & Social Services.
The main reason why they asked for the carry over is because of the equipment or renovations depending on the situation.
Because obviously the work wasn't carried out or it wasn't purchased in 99/2000.
The projects were renovations to group homes and health centres, some x-ray replacement equipment, some architectural and engineering services for some treatment centres.
Emergency generator installations and a cost effectiveness study for the Keewatin Regional Health Facility.
Those are the projects that compose the 260 thousand dollars Mr. Chairman.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Minister Ng. We are on page 28.
Turning to page 29.
We will then go back to page 6 if there are no further questions.
Mr. Arvaluk: Mr. Chairman on page 29, I recognize that the special warrants being issued for 325 thousand dollars were providing funding for carry over of the following projects etc.
These carried over type funding are for centres that are in the capital territorially or regionally, which is good I am not arguing with that.
But last summer the Hamlet of Coral Harbour had to scrounge for any kind of funding they could put together to build the access road, at least a ramp and an access road to a very expensive bridge that we have been able to manage to make a reality in the last 10 years we have been working on it.
This has become extremely popular, a beautiful bridge being built to the other side, what the government termed as hunting grounds.
We had a very difficult time getting funding.
Will there be a better plan to have these access roads, especially in that area which is very, very inexpensive because all the area is probably gravel all the way to the salmon pond.
Are there any plans to consider smaller communities that have great potential for economic development and tourism, especially to tourism, and can really help wellness programs, to be considered as important as the other larger communities that have been given special warrants here.
The special warrants were for previously approved projects for 99/2000 that were requested to be carried over to 2000/2001.
If the member's concerns are similar to those he identified earlier about a need for some specific community, and he uses the example of access roads and development of hunting or community areas and that, I think that falls within the realm of the Minister responsible for Sustainable Development.
I know that the House has recommended that there be a cost benefit analysis done on some of the spending that the government does in that area, through that department.
So I think that would probably be an opportune time once that report is presented and debated on the merits and the needs throughout Nunavut on those specific issues, Mr. Chairman.
If there are no further questions we will go back to page 6.
We will go line by line.
Legislative Assembly, operations and maintenance.
Total, Office of the Clerk.
Not previously authorized, negative 92 thousand.
Mr. Chairman, maybe if I could suggest that on page 4, as a department do we have to go through the whole thing.
Because page 4 for the department has the same amounts by department.
I was just wondering if that would be easier than going through all those again.
They are the same numbers just broken down by department and not the detail.
Chairperson (interpretation): We will start on page 6 and after we go line by line we will then go back to page 5.
That is the process.
We will start from page 6 and once we have gone through them all then we will go back to the beginning.
This has to be approved by the Assembly.
Negative 92 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total department.
Chairperson (interpretation): Next page.
Executive and Intergovernmental Affairs.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total. Communications, Policy & Planning, 120 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total department, 66 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Turning to page 8.
Finance & Administration, operations and maintenance.
Not previously authorized, directorate, 115 thousand.
Corporate Service, 40 thousand.
I apologize, I made a mistake.
We will go back to the negative 115 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Corporate services, negative 40 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total.
Fiscal policy and expenditure management, not previously authorized, 6 million 248 thousand.
Information management and technology, not previously authorized, negative 120 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): If you see a bracket it is a negative.
I am sure you all know that.
Total department, 5 million 973 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 9.
Human resources, not previously authorized. Operations & maintenance.
Staffing negative 250 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total staffing negative 250 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 10.
Not previously authorized, negative 156 thousand.
Should you not do total Registrars and Court Services only 40 thousand and total department 106 thousand dollars rather than reading the whole column.
I just want to know Mr. Chairman.
Chairperson (interpretation): Could you repeat that Mr. Arvaluk.
When we are dealing with the finances I am sure that every single one of us have reviewed.
I think we use just use the Registrars and Court Services.
Not reading the previous clause, we should just concentrate on that and the total department.
Chairperson (interpretation): We are dealing with finances and the people of Nunavut I am sure, are curious to see what kind of money we are going to be using for each of the government departments.
It is not only for our information but also for the people of Nunavut out there.
Because it is public money.
We were on page 10.
Negative 156 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Registrars and Court Services, not previously authorized.
Negative 40 thousand.
Negative 196 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 11.
Public Works, Telecommunications & Technical Services.
Directorate, not previously authorized, 1 million 460 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total. Technical services, 1 million 18 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total operations 6 million 511 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total Department, 6 million 953 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 12.
Community Government & Transportation.
Total directorate, not previously authorized, negative 164 thousand.
Community Government, not previously authorized, negative 8 hundred thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 13.
Total Transportation, not previously authorized.
Negative 530 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total Department, negative 1 million 494 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 14.
Total directorate, not previously authorized, negative 39 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total Department.
Negative 39 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 15.
Total directorate, not previously authorized.
Negative 159 thousand.
Early childhood education and school services, 4 million 444 thousand, not previously authorized.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total Department, 4 million 285 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 16.
Negative 592 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total. Health insurance programs, not previously authorized, 1 million 742 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total Department, 1 million 150 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 17.
Corporate management, not previously authorized.
Negative 131 thousand. Agreed.
Sustainable Development, not previously authorized. Negative 33 thousand.
Negative 164 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 18.
Nunavut Housing Corporation, not previously authorized, 1 million 18 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total Department. 1 million 18 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 19.
Legislative Assembly capital.
Office of the Clerk, 562 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Not previously authorized, 125 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total appropriations, 687 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 20.
Finance and administration.
Capital. Special warrants. Comptrollership, 250 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total comptrollership, 250 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 21.
Capital, special warrants.
Community justice and corrections, 143 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total community justice and corrections, 143 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 22.
Special warrant.
Petroleum products, 2 million 621 thousand. Agreed.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total 2 million 621 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): This is slightly different.
It is on page 23. Community Government and Transportation.
It continues on to page 24.
Special warrants, 1 million 314 thousand.
Not previously authorized. 1 million 900 thousand.
You keep saying it has been previously authorized.
What it says here is; Not previously authorized.
I have been reading it the wrong way.
Total Community Government and Transportation was agreed to.
Going to page 25.
Community Government and Transportation continuation.
Capital on page 26.
Community Government and Transportation. Capital.
Total Transportation, special warrant, 2 million 52 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Not previously authorized, 530 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total department under special warrants, 3 million 366 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation):Not previously authorized.
Total department 2 million 430 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation):Page 27.
Special warrants. Corporate services, 1 million 41 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation):Total. Corporate services, 1 million 41 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 28. Health & Social Services.
Special warrants, 260 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total department 260 thousand.
Agreed. I apologize.
I said 250 thousand, it is 260 thousand.
Maybe I need glasses.
Special warrant, 430 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total department 430 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): We will then go back to page 2.
Operations & maintenance appropriations, 17 million 210 thousand.
Some Members: Agreed.  Chairperson (interpretation): Page 3.
Capital, 11 million 228 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Capital Appropriation.
Total appropriation 28 million 438 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): That is it.
Supplementary Appropriation No. 1. 2000-2001. Do you have the bill in front you. We will go clause by clause.
Clause 1. Agreed.
I am not sure if that is the right clause but just would like to ask the minister in future if he could have the backup.
Some of the questions that I asked about breakdown on some of the totals so if they could have that at the next time so I would not have to wait until after to get it.
We will try and provide as much information as we can but you have to recognize that there’s always more information that is requested.
You can not be totally prepared for every question.
So that is why you always have to follow up and provide the information later.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Ng. Clause 3.
Chairperson (interpretation): Schedule, 17 million 210 thousand.
Total operations & maintenance part 2.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total Capital, 11 million 228 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Total supplementary appropriations in parts 1 and 2, 28 million 438 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Bill 1. Bill as a whole.
Chairperson (interpretation): Bill 1 is now ready for third reading.
Chairperson (interpretation): Mr. Minister thank you very much for being at the witness table.
If you would like to make closing remarks please.
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Yes, I would just like to thank Mr. Vardy and Mr. Victor Tootoo for assisting me and thank the committee.
In light of the fact, it looks like it is very hot up there, I would like to move that we report progress at this time.
Chairperson (interpretation): At this time there is a motion on the floor to report progress.
I am sure the Speaker is in the House now and thank you for being here during the Committee of the whole.
Deputy Speaker (Mr. Puqiqnak) (interpretation): Going back to the orders of the day.
Your committee has been considering Bill 8, Bill 9, Bill 2, and Bill 1 and would like to report that Bills 8, 9, 2, and 1 are ready for third reading and Mr. Speaker I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.
Do we have a seconder for the motion.
Ms. Thompson is the seconder.
Bill 1 - Supplementary Appropriations No.1 2000-2001 - Third Reading
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Mr. Speaker, I move seconded by the Honourable Member for Iqaluit West that Bill 1 - Supplementary Appropriations No.1 2000-2001 be read for the third time.
Sorry I am in a hurry.
Item 21. Mr. Ng.
Bill 2 - An Act to Amend the Workers’ Compensation Act - Third Reading
I move seconded by the Honourable Member for Pangnirtung that Bill 2 - An Act to Amend the Workers’ Compensation Act be read for the third time.
Bill 8 - An Act to Amend the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act - Third Reading
I move seconded by the Honourable Member for South Baffin that Bill 8 - An Act to Amend the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act be read for the third time.
Third reading of bills. Mr. Picco.
Bill 9 - An Act to Facilitate the Transfer of Employees from the Northwest Territories Power Corporation to the Nunavut Power Corporation - Third Reading
Mr. Speaker, I move seconded by the Honourable Member for Rankin Inlet South that Bill 9 - An Act to Facilitate the Transfer of Employees from the Northwest Territories Power Corporation to the Nunavut Power Corporation be read for the third time.
Masi Cho.
Deputy Speaker (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Picco.
Item 21. In our orders of the day. Third reading of bills.. Mr. Akesuk.
Hon. Olayuk Akesuk: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would like unanimous consent to go back to Item 5. Recognition of visitors in the gallery.
Deputy Speaker (interpretation): The member is seeking unanimous consent to go back to Item 5.
Are there are any nays.
Since there are no nays. You may go ahead.
Hon. Olayuk Akesuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would like to recognize a person with whom I have been working for quite some time. He is my older brother although I was adopted by another family I grew up with him and his name is Joamie Tapaungai, my older brother.
Chairperson (interpretation): Welcome to the gallery.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to acknowledge the presence of an individual that I had the pleasure of working with in the past and the person is now back working for the Department of Community Government and Transportation, Margaret Craigy.
Chairperson (interpretation): Welcome to the Nunavut Legislature.
I think at this time before I ask the Clerk to read the orders of the day, I would like to thank the pages who have been assisting us for the last five days.
They are all students from Inuksuk High School in Iqaluit and their names are: I apologize ahead of time for mispronouncing their names, Jessica Pearce, Zachary Armstrong, Jennifer Allurut, Mathew Mahoney, and Lindsay Lloyd.
I apologize for mispronouncing their names.
I would like to thank all of them.
Mr. Clerk, can you ascertain if Commissioner of Nunavut is prepared to enter the chambers to give assent to bills.
Good afternoon Mr. Speaker, Premier Okalik, Honourable Members of the Nunavut Legislative Assembly.
As Commissioner of Nunavut I am pleased to give assent to the following bills.
Bill 1 - Supplementary Appropriation Act No. 1, 2000-01
Bill 3 - An Act to Amend the Statute Revisions Act
Bill 4 - An Act to Amend the Land Titles Act
Bill 7 - Legislative Assembly Members Removal and Disqualification Act
Bill 8 - An Act to Amend the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act