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I agree with it, but.. (interpretation ends) This 10 million, I understand is to off-set the shortage of the staff housing needs in Iqaluit.
Why do we need 10 million, rather than the companies building more staff housing for the government?
Can you explain to me the difference?
Hon. Kelvin Ng: I saw your microphone on so I was waiting for you to say something.
It’s specifically for the condominium project that we announced and we’re actually building the units through the construction contracts obviously from the developers and so we’ve purchased the units, we’re undertaking the purchase of the units, established condominium corporations and sell them off to our employees.
So, this is, and it’s not specific to Iqaluit, although obviously a significant portion of the investments are there.
There is also all the other decentralized communities as well.
Mr. Arvaluk: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I understand that most Nunavummiut have to buy their housing on the mortgage system, the majority of Inuit.
Will this be privately financed, the purchase of those condominiums by the perspective owners or will this be done on the access home type purchases?
Mr. Chairman, the intent is to have individuals privately finance the units.
There might be an interim step where the Housing Corporation would hold the financing until such a time as they can be converted over into more conventional mortgages.
In these decentralized communities, which decentralized communities are in that, you say decentralized communities, is it all the communities that are decentralized or just some.
Mr. Chairman, there is units going into every decentralized community.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Ng.
Hon. Kelvin Ng: With the exception of Baker Lake because they’re so well positioned there and have such an abundance of staff housing in that community.
It’s the result of the good work the member does over there.
I think the condominium programs show a lot of vision in the step in the right direction in Nunavut because not only in Iqaluit and the decentralized communities, but in other communities that are, you know, suffering from a lack of housing in general.
What I’m starting to find in my community is I got a little bit of surplus of government staff housing but that’ll be taken up probably with the next phase of decentralization when it happens in the near future.
But the thing is, is that I think it’s a good program and people would like to own their own homes.
That’s a fact.
We seem to have more private home owners but the reality is that there is going to be more pressure put on social housing.
My question, my question would be to, if a community decided they wanted to participate into the condominium program, whether it’s a decentralized community or not a decentralized community to provide, you know, get people, there is a lot more government employees in every community now because of the Nunavut Government.
It’s a fact.
If there was a community or an organization or a group that wanted to build condominiums and get the government to assist them in building them and then selling them would the government be open to that?
Mr. Chairman, definitely, I mean right now were focused on Iqaluit the and the decentralized communities because that’s where the specific needs are because that’s where right now, you know, there is more and more focus on staffing where we know there is a market because there is GN staff there at a minimum so there is opportunities and if its going to work, that’s where it will work first.
Obviously there are other communities, they’re will be opportunities there as well to try to establish some form of condominium housing program to assist those individuals that might want it.
Mr. Chairman, that’s good news to know.
Kelvin, what I’m getting to if and we know every community is short of staff housing, whether its public housing or staff housing.
I know I seen that.
If an organization wanted to come to the Housing Corporation and say yes, we want to build a condominium, would you assist them or would your program people or your department assist them into getting into that condominium, if it looked like they could fill it or even half fill it?
Mr. Chairman, we would be open to taking a look at that.
Of course, you know the whole goal is to try to provide some affordable housing to individuals that can afford it.
We’d have to be cautious I guess of you know if you have somebody else in there that’s more geared towards the private profit sector I guess, that we’d have to balance that off.
I mean the other area of course is that if there are individuals interested themselves collectively, homeownership, through a coop housing program or something along those lines we could look at possible assistance as well.
So there are options and we would be willing to try and assist if that were to come forward.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Ng. Mr. Puqiqnak.
I want a clarification.
Are you stating that the private corporations can get assistance from the government and can these corporations own those condos if they would be able to buy them?
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Mr. Chairman, maybe I caused some confusion by using the word co-op, when I use the word co-op housing, I meant from the perspective of a bunch of home owners or individuals interested in private housing, their own housing forming a housing cooperative.
So, it would be jointly owned, there would shareholders etc. that type of a development.
Mr. Puqiqnak (interpretation): For example, when we were still under NWT, they would let the businesses build houses which would be leased by the housing corporation.
The corporation is not, I’m not talking about the federation or co-op, I’m just talking about bodies like the Kugluktuk Development Corporation.
Those kind of corporations that I’m talking about, if they wish to build condominiums are they are free to do so?
Is it possible that they can get the funding if they wish to do so.
I guess it’s possible for anybody to build, it’s a matter of how much rental income they get to pay their costs and we’re not prepared as a housing corporation to give the money to corporations to do that.
I mean if they’re competitive there’s needs out there we go to proposal calls to give everybody an opportunity to bid and that’s the way that we find the most cost effective way of trying to provide housing that we may require.
That’s been the practice of this government and it will continue to be that practice.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Ng. Mr. Tootoo.
Mr. Chairman there’s 10 million dollars here and I just asked the Minister how many units that represents.
If he has an idea how many units 10 million dollars is going to get us.
Mr. Chairman there’s 10 million dollars that was approved for actual funding directly to the housing corporation they also received approvals for borrowing authority of approximately 9.7 million dollars totals and totalled 94 units.
I was just going to start adding them up but give we’re give or take here around 94 units I believe.
I think I heard the Minister they received authority to borrow as well another 9.7 million.
So for the 94 units is he saying they’re looking at costing the corporation 19 million 700 thousand dollars.
Is that the correct assumption?
Mr. Chairman the member is correct we are more or less in 200 thousand dollars a unit average.
Mr. Chairman the 200 thousand dollars a unit I guess anywhere that’s cheap housing and I’m just wondering if as a result of the government going out and financing and purchasing the volume I guess that they’re getting, they’re getting a good deal on these units.
I know in Iqaluit for example you can’t find anything for under 240 to 250 thousand dollars.
I’m just wondering if based on the volume and the climate of scale if the government is able to get these units at a lower rate.
Mr. Chairman maybe I could ask Mr. Tootoo to repeat his question I didn’t quite catch it all.
Really short and sweet, basically 200 thousand dollars per unit is very cheap considering other housing units throughout the territory and the market does the Minister feel they are able to get that price per unit based on the volume of units that they were, through the whole process that they were getting constructed those 94 units.
Mr. Chairman it’s hard to say because in different communities there’s different blocks, you know, there’s different blocks in different communities right so it wasn’t specific.
It didn’t go out as a complete package for all 94 units.
I believe the proposal calls were for 20 units that had initially been initiated by Public Works.
There was 10 in 10 units, 10 with an option for 10 in different locations etc.
But I know there was significant interest because there were three of four proponents who put in, the average of three of four proponents on each of the proposal calls.
So, it probably led to some efficiencies and some competitiveness as a result of those proposal calls. Thank you.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you Minister Ng. I don’t have anymore names.
The housing expenses, capital 10 million do you agree?
Chairman (interpretation): 10 million do you agree?
Chairman (interpretation): All together 10 million do you agree?
Chairman (interpretation): Back to page 2.
Schedule 1 for capital.
Capital Appropriations 27 million 209 dollars.
Bill 16.
Go back to Bill 16.
It’s in a big binder.
Bill 16 Supplementary Appropriation for capital #2 for 2002-2003.
Chairman (interpretation): Clause1.
Chairman (interpretation): The schedule total Supplementary Appropriations 27 million, 2 hundred 9 thousand.
Chairman (interpretation): Bill has a whole, do you agree?  Some Members: Agreed.
Chairman (interpretation): Do you agree that it’s ready for third reading?
Chairman (interpretation): What is the wish of the committee now?
I want to say thank you before he moves from his seat, have you got anything to say Mr. Hon. Kelvin Ng.
What’s the wish of the committee now?
Mr. Nutarak (interpretation): I wish to report progress.
Chairperson (interpretation): Not debateable, do you agree.
Mr. Speaker, you can come forward, now, any nays.
Thank you, for having this meeting, Mr. Speaker, you can come forward, thank you.
Speaker: Returning to Orders of the day, Item 20.
Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 14, 15 and 16.
We report that Bill 15 and 16, are ready for third reading and Bill 14 is ready for third reading as amended.
And Mr. Speaker, I move that Committee of the Whole be concluded with.
There is a motion on the floor, is there a seconder. Do we have a seconder?
Item 21 Third Reading of Bills.
Bill 14 – Nunavut Elections Act – Third Reading
Mr. Speaker, I move second honourable member for Baker Lake that Bill 14, Nunavut Elections Act be read for the third time.
Speaker: Thank you Mr. Hon. Kelvin Ng: , the motion is in order.
Motion is carried, and Bill 14 has had third reading.
Item 21 third reading of bills.
Mr. Hon. Kelvin Ng:
Bill 15 – Supplementary Appropriation Act # 5, 2001-2002 – Third Reading
I move second by honourable member for Baffin South for Bill 15. supplementary appropriation act 5, 2001 and 2002 be read for the third time.
Speaker: Thank you Mr. Hon. Kelvin Ng. The motion is in order.
Motions Carried.
Bill 15 has had third reading.
Mr. Hon. Kelvin Ng: .
Bill 16 – Supplementary Appropriation Capital Act # 2 – 2001-2002 – Third Reading
I move second by honourable member for Rankin South, Whale Cove, by Bill 16, supplementary appropriation number 2, 2001/2002 be read for the third time, Thank you.
Speaker: Thank you Minister. The motion is in order, all those favour.
Bill 16 has had third reading. Item 21.
Orders of the Day for November 1st.
In accordance with the authority vested in me, by motion 2-1(6) this house stands adjourned until tomorrow, Friday, November 1st at 9 am.
Reminder to the members that there is a function, or a dance or hip hop, at the high school that is sponsored by the assembly, with local entertainment started now.
>>House adjourned at 8.52 p.m.  Nunavut Canada
Friday November 1, 2002
Pages 1500 - 1532
Minister of Health and Social Services; Minister Responsible for the Nunavut Power Corporation; Minister of Energy
Opening Prayer 1500
Members’ Statements 1500
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery 1508
Oral Questions 1514
Tabled Documents 1528
Motions 1529
Assent to Bills 1530
Orders of the Day 1531
Friday November 1, 2002 1500
217 – 1(6): Land Claim Agreement Signing Anniversary (Havioyak) 1500
218 – 1(6): Thank you to Hosts (Irqittuq) 1501
219 – 1(6): Condolences and Thanks to the Member of Pangnirtung (Puqiqnak) 1501
220 – 1(6): Coal Harbour Athletes Medal Winners (Arvaluk) 1501
221 – 1(6): Thank You for Hospitality (Iqaqrialu) 1502
222 – 1(6): Thank You to the Residents of Pangnirtung (Nutarak) 1503
223 – 1(6): Keewaitin Region Referee Awards (Thompson) 1503
224 – 1(6): Thank You to Pangnirtung Residents (Ng) 1504
225 – 1(6): Thank You to Pangnirtung (Kilabuk) 1504
226 – 1(6): Thank You to Minister from Pangnirtung (Anawak) 1505
227 – 1(6): Economic Development in Nunavut (Tootoo) 1505
228 – 1(6): Congratulates Joamie School Students and Staff (Picco) 1506
229 – 1(6): Thanks to the People of Pangnirtung for Hospitality (Alakannuark) 1507
231 – 1(6): Decentralization Committee (Puqiqnak) 1514
232 – 1(6): Flying in Certified Electricians to Communities (Nutarak) 1517
233 – 1(6): Igloolik Arena Community Hall Capital Plan (Irqittuq) 1518
234 – 1(6): Fishing Rights in Nunavut (Tootoo) 1520
235 – 1(6): Response to Standing Committee Report on Tourism (McLean) 1522
236 – 1(6): Response to Special Standing Committee Report (Williams) 1523
237 – 1(6): Funds to Business to be Made Available (Iqaqrialu) 1524
238 – 1(6): Chesterfield Inlet Physically Handicapped Facility (Arvaluk) 1526
045 – 1(6): Transportation of Dangerous Goods Annual Report – 1999-2000, 2000-2001, 2001-2002 (Thompson) 1528
010 – 1(6): Call for Federal Investment in Nunavut Infrastructure (Tootoo) 1529
Bill 14 – Nunavut Elections Act – Assent 1530
Bill 15 – Supplementary Appropriation Act # 5 -2001-2002 – Assent 1530
Bill 16 – Supplementary Appropriation Act # 2 -2002-2003 – Assent 1530
Speaker: I would like to call on Mr. Alakannuark to say the opening prayer.
Member’s Statement 217 – 1(6): Land Claim Agreement Signing Anniversary
(Interpretation ends): Mr. Speaker, I rise today on our final day in this beautiful and generous community of Pangnirtung to share an exciting announcement.
As you know July 9th, 2002 marks the tenth year of the anniversary signing of the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement in Kugluktuk.
To celebrate the anniversary of this landmark agreement, the community is planning a traditional gathering of Inuit from across Nunavut, Nunavik, the Northwest Territories, Alaska, and Greenland.
Uqaqtii, the festival will include competition in the traditional Inuit Northern Games.
Many of the planned traditional games haven’t been played since the first Northern Games that were held in Inuvik in 1969.
I am truly looking forward to watching our youth during theses games to continue their practice into the future.
Uqaqtii, in addition to these sport events, good woman events such as goose plucking, fish cutting and tea boiling will also take place.
Uqaqtii, this gathering will truly be a celebration between two hundred to two hundred and fifty participants from across the circumpolar world.
I invite all Members to join me next summer at this celebration. Koannaqutit, Uqaqtii.
Member’s Statement 218 – 1(6): Thank you to Hosts
Mr. Speaker, during our session here in Pangnirtung, I would like to say thank you to the people I am staying with, they are very hospitable and Mark Sowdluapik and his wife are also very approachable, they happen to be Peter Kilabuk’s in-laws.
They have given us a very nice place to stay, and also for those Inuit I could not see today or during our trip, when I’m on TV tomorrow, I say hello to them and good bye.
Member’s Statement 219 – 1(6): Condolences and Thanks to the Member of Pangnirtung
Very briefly, it won’t be long, since this is our last day.
In this session here in Pangnirtung, in Nunavut, on behalf of my wife and we would like to say thank you as per Inuit traditions because the reception, along with the hospitality, has been very good, Mr. Speaker.
I’d like to say thank you to the member of Pangnirtung, even though he had gone through hardship with his family, previously but now the whole family is getting back to their normal life and I am very happy about that, because we have an omnipotent being, our God, who takes care of us.
Please request for his assistance and help when we go through hard times, so that we may not fall.
Mr. Speaker, we are heading back home, as my colleague has stated for those people I could not see, I say goodbye to you and thank you and the hospitality is very good and the scenery is extremely gratifying, thank you.
Member’s Statement 220 – 1(6): Coal Harbour Athletes Medal Winners
Today, I rise today to recognize the tremendously capable five young people who went to the summer games representing Inuit.
Nunavut as a separate territory, for the first time sent representatives to the 2002 North American Indigenous games, and they started July 27 to August 5, 2002, in Winnipeg.
We sent five participants to those games with one coach and two coordinators.
These Nunavut residents, they received five medals; three gold, one bronze, and one of them came in fourth.
These participants travelled to the games from Coral Harbour.
Bruce McKitric was the coach, also of Coral Harbour.
They represented Nunavummiut in wrestling and here are the results: Amanda Ningeocheak won the gold medal.
(Interpretation ends): Amanda Ningeocheak gold medalist, in the 48 kilograms-Juvenile women’s; Susie McKitric gold medalist in 60 kilograms-Juvenile Women’s, Joe Saimaut bronze medalist in 58 kilograms-Juvenile Men’s, Tony Eetuk who place fourth in 63 kilograms-Senior Men’s, Joe Nakoolak gold medalist in 74 kilograms-Juvenile Men.
I would like to again, extend my congratulations to each and to make note of their achievements here today, we are certainly very proud of their great performance at the 2002 North American Indigenous games.
On behalf of Coral Harbour and young people of Nunavut, I would like to thank the Minister Thompson, and the Nunavut Government in contributing to the successful event.
Once again, congratulations to these athletes from Nunavut.
Member’s Statement 221 – 1(6): Thank You for Hospitality
Mr. Speaker, I will not take too much time in making my statement.
Starting in 1978, I started coming here to Pangnirtung.
At that time, when I was younger there were people that I knew at that time who invited me during this session, I apologize because I was unable to go to their homes.
They invited me for meals, because I could not make it to all the homes that requested my presence.
Since I was young, I have known many Pangnirtung residents.
When I was young, my peers, my friends and the hospitality of the people of Pangnirtung have been really good.
I would like to say that, in all the time that I have been coming here to Pangnirtung, I never saw Peter Kilabuk until I became a Member of the Legislative Assembly.
I finally saw him at that time.
Perhaps he was hiding somewhere when he was growing up.
I am quite proud of him and of his achievements, including his community.
I am very proud of the Pangnirtung residents and I would like to thank all of them for their extremely gracious hospitality.
Member’s Statement 222 – 1(6): Thank You to the Residents of Pangnirtung
I enjoyed our meeting here in Pangnirtung.
I apologize that I was not able to see all of my relatives here in Pangnirtung.
I have maternal relatives here in Pangnirtung.
I should take this opportunity to apologize, first of all for not being able to see them all.
The session in Pangnirtung was very receptive and I felt very much at home.
And because I had to go see a lot of relatives, I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to the individuals that I did not go to visit.
We had two lunches provided at 12:00 o’ clock.
There was one time when we went to the Trawler and we had lunch, then we landed and had another lunch that was hosted by First Air.
I would like to thank the people of Pangnirtung for providing us with excellent meals and also their graciousness in hosting this session.
Member’s Statement 223 – 1(6): Keewaitin Region Referee Awards
I also would like to thank our host MLA, Minister Kilabuk, for his hospitality.
Before I say my Members’ Statement, which is very short, I would also like to say that, I was here as a young teacher in 1975 when one of the teachers went on adoption leave.
Those students of mine have kids now.
I don’t think that they recognize me but I thank them for their community for hosting us.
They did a very fine job.
Today I would like to recognize some individuals in the Keewatin region.
We are hockey fanatics in the Keewatin region, of the whole territory I think.
Our arenas are full, even on Saturday morning for practice for Sunday morning, some seats are full.
In the Keewatin region, Mr. Speaker, there were some referees that got awards.
Actually, the Keewatin region swept the referee awards for hockey in Nunavut.
I would like to recognize the individuals that won these awards.
Greg Sim of Rankin Inlet won the best new referee award. Sam Tapartuk of Arviat, from your riding Mr. Speaker, won the most improved referee awards.
And also our favourite reporter of the Keewatin region for the Kivalliq News, Darryl Greer, referee in chief, also won the most deserving award, which he deserves the most I’m sure.
For these individuals, we are very proud of them as a Government of Nunavut that supports hockey in all our regions.
Thank you very much for their contribution and the dedication to hockey in our communities.
Member’s Statement 224 – 1(6): Thank You to Pangnirtung Residents
Mr. Speaker, I too want to speak briefly about the events here in Pangnirtung.
For the past week we had an opportunity of course to be greeted by a community and a dance later that night.
Many of us had an opportunity to tour the fishing trawler that brings in the turbot here for the Pangnirtung fisheries.
There was an entertaining Halloween contest that many of us were entertained by, last night.
We of course had the swearing in of the new deputy commissioner, Ms. Lena Metuq, a Pangnirtung resident.
And Mr. Speaker, from a business perspective, we did accomplish a lot.
We passed our new Elections Act, first one it has made an effect in all of us.
Running for a re-election and the new candidates and future MLA’s.
We passed two major supplementary appropriation bills.
So once again, I think it was important that many of the residents of Pangnirtung, a community outside of the capital city, had an opportunity to see their legislative assembly, their government in action from the first hand perspective and I believe that was quite beneficial.
I’d like to thank all the residents that I met in the past week here for the warmth and hospitality.
I’d like to thank my colleague, Peter Kilabuk, who went out of his way to help us, to organize the dance and look after whatever our needs were.
And finally, Mr. Speaker, just on one closing note after the session here, the Government of Nunavut and the Federation of Nunavut Teachers will be signing off on the new collective agreement that was reached between our organizations.
It’ll be hosted and then MC’d by the new Deputy Commissioner and once again, thank you very much to the residents of Pangnirtung.
Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Ng. Members’ Statements.
Member’s Statement 225 – 1(6): Thank You to Pangnirtung
I would first of all, like to thank my colleges and also to the residents of Pangnirtung for hosting the 6th session of the Legislative Assembly and for participating and observing the sittings of the legislative assembly.
The pages, the servants of the schools, and especially Roger Alivaqtaq, who coordinated the feast and also the Halloween party that was held at the other school, and because the legislative assembly staff works so hard, I would like to thank you all for coordinating the meeting.