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If you were to go to the Visitors’ Centre, they provide an explanation about the various communities.
Not just the Baffin region but for the Kitikmeot and the Kivalliq as well.
There are a lot of people that pass through Iqaluit to go to various communities and we have a display that explains to the tourists.
Some of the money that we did not use will be used to upgrade the Visitors’ Centres.
Next year, we will be doing an explanation of each of those lines to make sure that Members understand.
Mr. Arvaluk: So we are building another Heritage Centre of the Yellowknife Exhibit in Iqaluit and the artifacts and the good stuff are not going to be in Coral Harbour, rather in Iqaluit so that people who are passing through Iqaluit, can look at what it is like in Coral Harbour rather than coming to Coral Harbour.
Hon. Olayuk Akesuk (interpretation): It is not a Heritage Centre; it is a Visitors’ Centre.
We have not heard where the Heritage Centre will be built.
It is just an explanation of the various communities that the visitors can visit.
We are not talking about the Heritage Centres; we are just talking about the Visitors’ Centres in the communities of Nunavut.
The visitors can have an explanation of each of the communities in Nunavut.
No, I am not saying that we are creating a Heritage Centre.
What I am saying is that any kind of promotional material can be viewed in the communities are going to be in the Visitors’ Centre in Iqaluit.
That is fine, but do we have a duplication of information in all of the communities that should have information of their own communities too.
We were in Pangnirtung a couple of weeks ago, and there was a beautiful Visitors’ Centre that talks about everything about Pangnirtung.
Other communities don’t have that privilege to have been a Visitors’ Centre.
Pretty soon Pond Inlet will have one and pretty soon the Kivalliq through Uluksaqtuuq.
If we say that the Visitors’ Centre, if you look at Appendix C, Sustainable Development, on page C25, that you have a Visitors’ Centre for the headquarters regions all the way to 2008, $200 thousand dollars, and the smallest one, $50 thousand for 2006-2007 that you have a plan.
It seems like either they are going to have a headquarters here in Iqaluit, or will put them where ever you wish, depending on you know, where you would like to put it in that particular year.
So that is not, I think this is what we are complaining about, is that if you can identify the visitors centres, what are you are doing at the visitor’s centres and where.
Even if you say headquarters, then you should say Iqaluit.
Otherwise you know, because, even recognizing Iqaluit as the headquarters.
When it comes to visitor’s centre, importance of visitor’s centre in the community, Iqaluit should not be taking a priority when it comes to tourism.
Everybody needs tourism in economic development, especially non-headquarters, non-decentralized communities that have no other means of economic development.
The Department of Tourism spends on sports hunting, spends on anything that the government does not spend on.
And I think this will have to be looked at in the next capital project and O&M at a different attitude for economic development and tourism in Nunavut as an enterprise.
It’s not a question Mr. Chairperson; it’s just that it’s frustrating that we are copying the capital planning system of the Northwest Territories all over again.
I think we were trying to get away from that in the last three years.
I think we have to rethink the way do things here. Qujannamiik.
I did not hear the question, but if you would like to respond, Mr. Akesuk.
Hon. Olayuk Akesuk (interpretation): Thank you Mr. Chairperson.
The words of the Member for Nanulik are very strong and powerful, I’m sure it’s going to support my department and the government themselves and his comments are very well taken.
And yes we will look at ways how we can improve and not use the Government of Northwest Territories system.
His comments are very strong so we take them very well and they are very important, thank you.
Mr. Irqittuq (interpretation): I wasn’t going to make a comment, but to follow up on my colleague’s statement, yes it’s good to get a visitors centre in Iqaluit, which is going to be used for all Nunavummiut, and since it’s the capital of Nunavut, I’m sure the tourists, the majority of tourists come to Iqaluit.
Although I didn’t see anything about the report on Hall Beach, I don’t know who made the report.
It would be ideal for me because we rarely get any tourists coming into Hall Beach, that’s the report and it should be put into New York or Toronto or Montreal.
This is not a question, it’s just a comment.
Why Iqaluit, why does Iqaluit have to have, if attraction development could be put into Pangnirtung or even Hall Beach, perhaps that way you can at least attract more tourists to Hall Beach.
Chairperson (interpretation): I did not hear the question.
But Minister Akesuk I will allow you to respond.
Hon. Peter Kilabuk (interpretation): I will allow my Deputy Minister, Alex Campbell to respond.
Mr. Campbell: Thank you Mr. Chairperson.
I just wanted to clarify regarding the Visitor’s Centres. We have nine in Nunavut, one in Arviat, one in Baker Lake, Cambridge Bay, Pond Inlet, Pangnirtung, Iqaluit, Kimmirut, Cape Dorset, and Rankin Inlet.
As the minister indicated in the Minister’s Statement the majority of that funding will be spent in the centre in Iqaluit in the next fiscal year.
The minister indicated as well, for the next budget cycle, we’ll make sure that the Capital Projects money is set out among those nine communities that they’re affecting.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Campbell.
Yes, we’ll move on to Sustainable Development, Detail of Capital.
To the Headquarters. $480 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Moving on to Qikiqtaaluk Region, page 11-7 all the way to 11-8 and it continues on to 11-9.
In the Baffin Region, for Igloolik, maybe I’m mistaken.
Never mind it’s already passed.
I’ll talk about it some other time.
Chairperson (interpretation): There were no questions.
Continuing on to 11-9.
I made you agree without a page number.
Next, $1 million, 295 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 7-9.
Kivalliq Region, Total Kivalliq Region, $225 thousand dollars.
Comments or questions?
Yes, I do have lots of comments and questions but the time is ticking so therefore I’d like to make a motion before we complete the Department of Sustainable Development, I’d like to stay in session until we report out or until we complete the department because Mr. Chairman we only have two more pages left to go.
Chairperson (interpretation): Yes, we’ll try and complete the department.
We’re in the Keewatin Region. 11-9.
Yes, although I spoke about it, I’d just like to make an addition to my comments because we can enhance and develop fisheries in all the Keewatin Region.
Not just for my constituency, but also for Hall Beach, Repulse Bay, Baker Lake, and all these communities that have fish and they have huge metric tonnes of quota.
So, therefore I would like to develop fisheries and the next time we deal with Capital Estimates, I urge you not to forget developing fisheries because we do have fish in the Baffin Region and all the three regions from Igloolik all the way down to Whale Cove.
They all want to have fish plants, but they don’t have any marketing strategy plan so I would like you to look at the strategy and marketing of the fish and I’m sure that’s how it is in Kitikmeot too that they would like to strategize on the marketing of the fish, especially the communities with large lakes and many fish.
I want you to consider all those communities and include them in the Capital Plans.
Chairperson (interpretation): I did not hear a question but I’m sure he’s trying to get the commitment from the minister.
Yes, I too will want support on these things and how we can strategize on the marketing of the fish.
So, therefore I’m requesting for support from the Standing Committee.
I don’t know if it could be under O&M but if I ask the question perhaps we’re going to get further clarification on that.
We’re able to harvest caribou in Coral Harbour up to 6 thousand but every time we harvest 3 thousand in caribou within 1 month or 6 weeks sometimes we deplete 3 thousand caribou and we deliver the meat to Rankin Inlet meat plant.
They don’t have the capacity to hold more than 3 thousand pounds of meat, although we have 3 thousand more pounds of meat to go there’s no room at Rankin Inlet.
I was wondering if you can look at this to find out if we get additional meat plants outside of Rankin Inlet or in some communities that don’t have much caribou and I know I’m sure you know which communities don’t have caribou.
This winter, in some communities caribou were not so abundant in their areas so I was wondering if you can make plans, like we’re able to harvest 6 thousand caribou to make sure that we complete the quota. If you can look at ways we can harvest right to the number.
Yes, we dealt with the polar bear management in our O&M.
We would have to bring it up during our O&M to increase the number of communities’ freezers and thank you.
For example, the Pangnirtung Fish Plant, they put in additional freezers so that they can store more fish. So we can look at ways of how we can utilize the entire quota.
Meat is now also starting to be marketed outside of our country and I’m sure interest is out there, so we’ll have to deal with this in the future.
Mr. Arvaluk (interpretation): Last question, Mr. Chairman.
Rankin Inlet has a shortage of freezers and I’m sure we all know about that.
We have a mobile freezer and we were told that the freezer can have 1 thousand caribou in those mobile freezers and in Chesterfield Inlet they have a mobile freezer.
Perhaps if you can get additional mobile freezers, one or two mobile freezers in Rankin Inlet, it would really help because the mobile freezers are not too expensive.
Minister. Akesuk.
Yes, we will take his comments into consideration because mobile freezers are very good and it would be very beneficial for the Nunavut meat plants.
According to the needs and requests, we will work on obtaining mobile freezers so that other communities can harvest more caribou.
We’re still on page 11-9.
Keewatin. Total Kivalliq region $225 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): Page 11-10.
Total Kitikmeot region 495 thousand.
We’re finally on 11-10; I just want to comment in regards to the meat plant in Cambridge Bay, because that Cambridge Bay meat processing plant supports development in Cambridge Bay and the Kitikmeot as well.
But I am concerned that through the six years that they’ve been operating so far, sometimes their operation is doing well but again it seems to fall off and they are having problems operating because of the plant itself.
Perhaps we can do some studies in regards to the problems that they have.
Go back a couple of years just to review and study the problems that they have in regards to the Cambridge Bay meat processing plant because this would tie into Kugluktuk as well in terms of development.
When you have a problem with the plant itself, not in good operation, we have to try to correct that because it’s thing going.
That’s really a comment I have.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, for your comments but Minister Akesuk, I’m sure you want to make a comment.
Yes, the study of the meat plant in Cambridge Bay has been very beneficial to the Kitikmeot communities and that meat plant benefits not just Cambridge Bay; it benefits the other communities.
It is evident it’s going to be quite expensive and we have asked the Federal Government to try and support Nunavut’s Capital Expenditures.
This is why we have been discussing this matter of finances with our Federal counterparts but we will work hard and focus on the meat plants.
Do you have any further questions? Mr. Havioyak.
I have a question in regards to Kugluktuk.
The Federal Government and NTI came to an agreement in regards to Nunavut when they implemented the 221 thousand dollars that was decreased from last year.
I don’t think all of it was used from last year.
I would like to know why this funding is a lot smaller than last year.
Last year it was 221 thousand dollars.
I don’t think that funding was used.
We wanted to use the funding but why was it decreased this year?
I would like a clarification on that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
We have been working on this issue in Kugluktuk.
We have the Heritage River that is being reviewed and that was completed in 2000.
We have quite a number of projects that we have started and we’re going to keep pushing these projects so that there will be better promotion.
We are currently waiting for the Kitikmeot Inuit Association’s approval.
This money has been slightly changed due to that.
In 2002/2003, $221 thousand; so you are saying then that you are working with the KIA for additional funding?
I might have misunderstood the response.
So the difference will be coming from other organizations?
With the completion of the projects, it is certain that the funds for those will start to decrease.
In regards to your questions about Kitikmeot Inuit Association and their contributing funds, that is not so, because of the diminishing amount of dollars, we are working on these projects depending on the reduced amount of dollars that we get.
Mr. Havioyak: So what you are saying to me that $221 thousand dollar budget for 2002/2003, the real number that you are looking at now to complete the work is only for $150 thousand dollars?
The reason that I am trying to find this out is that there was no work done last year.
As far as I know I could be wrong.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
I know when they say Kugluk Park, Coppermine is very far.
The road for trails going up to the Falls; is that one of the projects or are we just looking at the area right around Bloody Falls?
It could be two different projects there.
I am just trying to make sure that we have two projects that are going to happen this year.
If not, when?
I know that the one for Bloody Falls is for the signs and stuff like that and new improvements around it.
And another part is the trail going up to Bloody Falls.
I am trying to get the right picture here that the trail also should be included if it is not already here. Koanaqutit, Itsivautaq.
We are working on these projects.
They are not specifically identified here.
We want this to be recognized as a heritage river and we are currently working on that.
For the campgrounds, we are also going to be working on that. We will be working with the Hamlet of Coppermine to build a trail.
We are also putting together a brochure.
We are in the Kitikmeot Region.
Total Kitikmeot Region. 295 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): And total Tangible Assets. 2 million, 495 thousand dollars.
Chairperson (interpretation): Going back to 11-4.
Sustainable Development, Departmental Summary, Detail of Expenditures, Capital Expenditures, Total Capital Expenditures. 2 million, 520 thousand dollars.
I have two small questions overall.
Under Departmental Plan, 2002-2003, Capital.
I just want to make a comment about Baker Lake on page 11-9. 2002-2003, and I’m just speaking for my community but I see there is a lot of money in every community.
Did that money get spent in my community, that 221 thousand dollars?
And also in the other communities, was that money spent, every cent?
We are working on it and we have agreements in place for the Thelon River, we definitely have to work on it and the agreements will have to be finalized.
We try to go with the agreements as much as we can.
I just want to let the minister know, I’m very pleased with the gateway signs that I’ve seen in Ottawa, Winnipeg, Churchill, and I think Edmonton.
They jumped out at me.
I’ve been asking to see them for three or four years.
They’re the right size and they’re located strategically when people are sitting in lounges; they could see them with the 1-800 number.
I don’t know if your department paid for them or if Nunavut Tourism paid for them but it’s nice to see them finally up and I think they’re going to help.
That’s all I have Mr. Chair.
Mr. Havioyak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) What we talked about earlier, because the amount is in there, the 2.5 million.
We talked about visitors centres and heritage and I know that when you’re making the list, you are going over through the list for the visitors centres and I didn’t hear Kugluktuk on there so because we do have one which is a heritage – visitors centre.
I’m just wondering if that’s on the list or not.
I know this component there they have the local chamber of commerce doing the administrative work there to look after the building.
I’m just wondering if they qualify under that when were talking about visitors centres but again it’s the two things that heritage and visitors centre.
We’ll have these written down and it is a heritage centre. We will make a correction and give it to you in written form.
Mr. Irqittuq (interpretation): Mr. Chairman, thank you.
If all this goes through, your community’s going to be getting a lot of things and Hall Beach and Igloolik is slotted down as Clyde River.
Just see 26 and 27 everything is for Clyde River.
So I’d like those deleted even the ones that are really going to Clyde River.
I was going to bring that up after you agree to the capital estimates.
The budgeted amount in Coral Harbour is not very much.
It’s a non-decentralized community but we do try to generate revenue through big game hunting, tourism; we don’t have quarry sites like Cape Dorset does.
But we are trying to build a 40-mile road, we keep increasing it every year and we use $60 thousand every year and I would like to thank the government and the federal government but we see other opportunities, revenue generating opportunities, for example, being able to meet our caribou harvest quota.
We’re not able to harvest the full quota and then there’s the Chesterfield Inlet fishing quota because of limited resources to process them.
I think we should concentrate on tourism.
We should look at other economic development opportunities and we should look at that when we’re doing our budget.
There’s Coral Harbour and Arviat that have an abundance of geese.
That is another opportunity and the minister and the premier have been informed about that. I’m sure that there are other communities who are more than willing to boost their revenue, like Coral Harbour and Chesterfield Inlet.
Possibly what we can do is go through the Nunavut Development Corporation or through this budget and as I repeatedly said, we don’t want to use $23 million on social recipients because of course they want to be able to become self-sufficient.
And if the Department of Sustainable Development can go into those economic ventures then we’d be generating employment and more money would be coming in.
Chairperson (interpretation): For the remainder of the members, we are given an opportunity for general comments for ten minutes.
We are now working on the capital estimates and during those discussions we go back into general comments.
In order to keep our meeting in line, please make sure you sit through the general comments during general comments and capital estimates during capital estimates.
11-4, Department of Sustainable Development, departmental summary, detail of expenditures, total capital expenditures $2 million, 520 thousand.
Chairperson (interpretation): C26, C27, five year capital plan are also agreed too.
Minister Akesuk, if you would say your closing remarks.
Even though the Department of Health and Social Services has a budget of $60 million, I am happy to have 2.5 million dollars in my budget.
We have a very important job and we’re doing the best we can to use this money wisely.
Do you agree that the Department of Sustainable Development is completed?
Chairperson (interpretation): I would like to thank the Department of Sustainable Development.
At this time would you ascertain the presence of the Speaker please?
Your committee has been considering Bill 18 and would like to report progress and Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.
There’s a motion on the floor. Is there a seconder?
I seek unanimous consent to return to Item 18.
Speaker: The Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to item 18, second reading of bills.
There are no nays, you may proceed.
Bill 19 – Budget Measures Implementation Act – Second Reading
Hon. Kelvin Ng: Thank you, honourable colleagues.
I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Baffin South, that Bill 19, Budget Measures Implementation Act be read for the second time.
The purpose of this Bill is to implement measures and announcements in the 2002 budget to significantly reduce Nunavut’s personal and corporate income tax rates. The Bill will also make some technical changes to the Act to ensure consistency to certain references in the Federal Act.
Bill 19 has had second reading and accordingly the Bill stands referred to a committee.
Bill 25 – An Act to Amend the Maintenance Orders Enforcement Act – Second Reading
I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Hudson Bay, that Bill 25, an Act to Amend the Maintenance Orders Enforcement Act be read for the second time.
Mr. Speaker, this act deals with the enforcement of orders and agreements for support that have been made in Nunavut.
The amendments in this bill were revised for wording and terminology that is appropriate for Nunavut such as referencing the Nunavut Court of Justice instead of the Territorial Court.
It also includes amendments related to the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act.
Bill 25 has had second reading and accordingly the bill stands referred to a Committee.
Bill 26 – Inter-Jurisdictional Support Orders Act – Second Reading
I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Iqaluit East, that Bill 26, Inter-Jurisdictional Support Orders Act, be read for the second time.
Mr. Speaker the Inter-Jurisdictional Support Orders Act will significantly streamline the process whereby Support Orders are obtained, varied and recognized in inter-jurisdictional cases between Nunavut and jurisdictions with which we have reciprocity in support for enforcement purposes. Under the existing process with the Maintenance and Enforcement Act there is a complicated two stage process and this new bill will streamline the process making it easier for support orders to be enforced.
The motion is carried. Bill 26 has had second reading and accordingly stands referred to a committee.
Turning back to Item 21. Third Reading of Bills.
A reminder to members there is a meeting of Full Caucus at 7:00 o’clock this evening in the Nanuk room.
A reminder to the members that the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Services is meeting tomorrow morning at 9 o’clock in the Tuktu room.
Orders for the day for Tuesday, November 26, 2002,
The Clerk mentioned there is a Full Caucus meeting at 7 o’clock this evening.
Prior to Full Caucus I would like members to join me in the Tuktu room immediately following the session.
This house stands adjourned until Tuesday November 26th, 2002, at 1:30 p.m.
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