EdinburghNLP/nunavut-hansard-plusplus huggingface dataset:
I was getting the Innuinaqtut translation coming through on the English channel.
Chairperson (interpretation): Okay. Ms. Thompson.
I feel like we’re all over the place at this point.
(interpretation end) Mr. Chairperson, on page 54.3 (F), I just wanted to say that the city doesn’t have to go to the rate payers for the fees such as garbage pick-up or arena, you know for hockey and stuff like that.
They don’t have to go to the rate payers to pass those by-laws.
I don’t know what else the Member has concerns of.
We just seem to be all over the place now.
Maybe I’ll try and make it a little easier to understand.
Under that subsection, in that section of the act, as I asked earlier, because I wasn’t sure exactly where it was, if the city is to establish a by-law to allow them to collect development cost charges or off-site levies, is this the section that would allow them to do that?
I never said anything about going to ratepayers for approval or anything like that.
I hope that clarifies the question for the Minister.
Minister. Thompson.
I’m going to ask my Assistant Deputy Minister, Mr. Maley to answer that one.
Chairperson (interpretation): Mr. Maley
To answer your question, Mr. Tootoo, this section does allow for municipalities to charge levies in certain instances but it has to be done by way of a by-law.
So, for instance, as the Minister indicated, establishing and charging fees of a reasonable nature for municipally managed directive in controlled property, also, it would allow for instance, to establish and charge fees for a non-resident type activity.
Also, this section allows for the execution of licenses, permits and so forth that wouldn’t be found in a normal revenue stream such as you described with the rate payers.
So, your question, specifically though for land, you should wait until we get to the land area and I think we’ll be able to address it more specifically.
Okay, we’ll go back to clause 18. Clause 18.
Mr. Iqaqrialu (interpretation): Under Clause 33, it is just all section numbers.
I am not exactly sure exactly what this section means, Clause 33.
This Section or Clause 33, I will get Lucy McGee to explain Clause 33.
Ms. McGee.
Ms. McGee (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
You probably won’t understand me clearly because I have a very bad cold.
These clauses are not all amended, but they are just all renumbered.
Perhaps Peter can explain it better than myself, but these Sections, these numbers in these sections have been changed.
They have been amended, but they are not deleted, but they have just been amended and replaced, but some of the numbers, their numbers were just changed.
All these Section Numbers, where do they fit in the Bill?
All these numbers in Clause 33, the Sections starting with 130 were just put it in one section so to let the Members know that they have been amended.
So, instead of just having one in various places in the Bill, they just put them in one if they have been amended.
Sections 130-1. 130.2 and 131 and 132, 133, have been deleted but then they’re still in this legislation so that’s why I didn’t understand them.
I just wondered which section these numbers are at in this bill?
Hon. Manitok Thompson (interpretation): Mr. Chairman, in the Inuktitut translation it doesn’t say that those numbers have been deleted.
They’ve just been amended.
It shouldn’t say that they’re deleted, they’ve just been amended.
Clause 33, it says it’s been deleted in Inuktitut.
I think we’re going to have to redo the translations to say that it’s been amended.
As to the Member’s question, as to what happened to those sections, 130, we already agreed to them on Clause 10.
We just wanted to put them in one section or one clause.
Chairperson (interpretation): Bill 23, as a whole.
Does the committee agree that this Bill is ready for third reading?
Chairperson (interpretation): Bill 24.
An Act to Amend the Hamlets Act.
Mr. Chairman, I’d like to ask the Minister about Bill 23 and the specific questions that I had, I didn’t seem to get them here; we just went through it.
But I’d like from her or her staff if they could point out in correspondence to me where in the act that says that cities, a city will have the same power as other cities to be able to raise money beyond ratepayers.
That one I think I got, but I just want it for clarification.
Also, where specifically in the Act it will allow the city to collect development costs, charges or off-site levy fees in order to ensure that growth pays for growth. If the Minister could commit to providing that information to me because we didn’t seem to be able to find it in here.
I think before I rubber stamp legislation, I want to be comfortable that that ability is in there for the city.
And there’s another person that’s sitting at the witness table.
If you don’t mind introducing him, Ms. Thompson?
To my left is Peter Alison.
He’s from Justice and has been helping with this legislation for quite a while.
He may be able to answer some of Mr. Tootoo’s questions.
Or I can offer a private briefing for Mr. Tootoo tomorrow with my staff if he would like that.
But I think I’ll allow Mr. Alison to answer some of the questions he may have prepared already.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, if you’ll allow him to answer some of the questions.
Welcome, Mr. Alison.
Mr. Alison: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
In addition to the very able answer provided by your counsel, Mr. Chandler, earlier regarding the ability of municipalities to borrow, in order to raise funds, we should probably in addition point out, under clause 54.3 on page 15 of the English version, the power of a municipality by by-law to establish fees or other charges for services activities, or things provided or done by the community or for the use of the property under the ownership, direction, management or control of a municipal corporation.
At the present time, it’s almost six o’clock and I would like to move that we report progress.
Chairperson (interpretation): There’s a motion to report progress and it’s not debatable.
All in favour to report progress.
I would like to thank the Minister and the witnesses for coming here to report to the committee.
Since we had a Motion to report progress and it is not debatable, the Speaker can return now.
And you could have us make an ulu in Nunavut.
Mr. Speaker, the Committee has considered Bill 23 and deem it ready for Third Reading and Mr. Speaker, I move that the Report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with.
There is a Motion in the Floor, is there a seconder?
Motion is in Order. All those in favour. All those opposed.
Orders of the Day for Thursday, March 13th:
The House stands adjourned until Thursday, March 13th, 1:30 p.m.
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Pages 2621 - 2684
Assistant Clerk
Opening Prayer 2621
Ministers’ Statements 2621  Members’ Statements 2624
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery 2633  Oral Questions 2634
Tabling of Documents 2651
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters 2652
Report of Committee of the Whole 2682
Orders of the Day 2683
Thursday March 13, 2003 2621
125 – 1(6): Keeping Families Connected (Picco) 2621
126 – 1(6): Job Descriptions (Kilabuk) 2622
127 – 1(6): Ningartailinirmut Ikajurtauvvik (Okalik) 2623
409 – 1(6): Polar Bear Problems in Communities (Iqaqrialu) 2624
410 – 1(6): Bravery and Long Term Service Awards Given in Cape Dorset (Akesuk) 2625
411 – 1(6): Human Rights (Nutarak) 2626
412 – 1(6): Soapstone Quarries (Havioyak) 2626
413 – 1(6): Condolences to Kusugak Family (Anawak) 2627
414 – 1(6): Community Hunters and Trappers Budget (Irqittuq) 2628
415 – 1(6): Community Recognition in Pangnirtung (Kilabuk) 2628
416 – 1(6): Photo Exhibition (Picco) 2629
417 – 1(6): Lack of Staff for Library Programs (Tootoo) 2630
418 – 1(6): Hunters and Trappers to Increase Quotas (Alakannuark) 2631
419 – 1(6): Issue of Health Care Funding (McLean) 2632
420 – 1(6): Upcoming Conference in Rankin Inlet (Thompson) 2632
408 – 1(6): Income Support Policy-Appeals Committees (Nutarak) 2634
409 – 1(6): Update on Income Support Payments (McLean) 2635
410 – 1(6): Correspondence with Parks Canada Regarding Problem Polar Bears (Iqaqrialu) 2635
411 – 1(6): Final Agreement to Move 13 Positions to Baker Lake (Anawak) 2636
412 – 1(6): Adequate Staffing to Keep Programs Open at the Library (Tootoo) 2639
413 – 1(6): Assist Carvers of Quarry Site (Havioyak) 2641
414 – 1(6): PPD Positions Moving to Baker Lake (McLean) 2643
415 – 1(6): Kugaaruk Concerns on Muskox Quota (Alakannuark) 2644
416 – 1(6): Portion of PPD Positions Moving to Baker Lake (Anawak) 2646
417 – 1(6): Decentralization Study on Impact to Smaller Communities (Iqaqrialu) 2649
079 – 1(6): Letter from Kugaaruk HTO (Alakannuark) 2651
080 – 1(6): Business Plan of the Legislative Assembly (Speaker) 2651
081 – 1(6): Pangnirtung Session Incremental Cost Report (Speaker) 2652
082 – 1(6): Pension Administration Report March 31st, 2002 (Speaker) 2652
083 – 1(6): Statutory Requirements for Tabling Reports and Other Documents to the Legislative Assembly (Speaker) 2652
019 – 1(6): Minister’s Statement 126 – 1(6) to Committee of the Whole (Havioyak) 2622
Honourable Olayuk Akesuk, Mr. Ovide Alakannuark, Mr. Jack Anawak. Mr. Donald Havioyak, Mr. David Iqaqrialu, Mr. Enoki Irqittuq, Honourable Peter Kattuk, Honourable Peter Kilabuk, Mr. Jobie Nutarak, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Glenn McLean, Honourable Kevin O’Brien, Honourable Paul Okalik, Honourable Ed Picco, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Mr. Hunter Tootoo.
Speaker (Mr. O’Brien): I would like to call on Ms.Thompson to say the opening prayer.
Speaker: Good afternoon, Mr. Premier, Members.
Minister’s Statement 125 – 1(6): Keeping Families Connected
Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to announce that all six boarding homes and now the Baffin Hospital are equipped with toll-free numbers and extra telephone lines.
In this way, families are able to stay connected when a family member is away from their community for medical treatment.
Mr. Speaker, by using the toll-free numbers, people can call for free into each of the Health and Social Services boarding homes and speak directly with relatives.
Thus, patients and family members will no longer incur high telephone costs in addition to mental health anguish in trying to connect with their loved ones.
Mr. Speaker, there are very few things that are harder compared to being far from loved ones, particularly during times of illness.
That is why, Mr. Speaker, that not only have I kept a promise I made based on the recommendation from the standing committee, but this is a relatively low-cost item for my department to help improve the mental outlook of patients, decrease the stress involved in separating families during times of medical distress.
Mr. Speaker, we have an early announcement on this and we have the complete numbers.
The toll-free numbers for the boarding homes are: Iqaluit, 1-866-828-2386, Ottawa, 1-866-864-9705, Winnipeg, 1-866-232-6212; Yellowknife, 1-806-887-8864; Edmonton, 1-866-866-2272, and Churchill, 1-866-262-7879.
And the Baffin Hospital number is 1-800-667-9504.
Mr. Speaker, let me add in the Minister’s Statement by saying that this Minister’s Statement will be faxed to all Hamlets across Nunavut so that the numbers will be available, finally for all Nunavummiut to be able to use.
And we hope to publish them in the local papers so people can clip them out and have them when they need them.
Minister’s Statement 126 – 1(6): Job Descriptions
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide Members of the Legislative Assembly with information on the government’s effort in removing artificial barriers in job descriptions.
This initiative is to ensure beneficiaries are provided with job opportunities and career advancement in the Government of Nunavut.
Many of the current job descriptions being used within the GN demand education and experience qualifications more suited to areas outside our system.
Today we are in the process of changing our approach to writing job descriptions with the focus being placed on knowledge, skills and abilities that are required to do the job.
We estimate that there are approximately 800 job descriptions, which need to be reviewed.
This number is significant and will take time and resources to complete.
To that end, the Department of Human Resources has hired two staff to assist other government departments in the critical review of their job descriptions.
Priority will be given to departments whose job descriptions need to be reviewed immediately.
Mr. Speaker, the government is fully committed to the removal of artificial barriers to employment for beneficiaries.
We will fulfill our obligations under Article 23 of the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement and work towards a representative public service.
Motion 019 – 1(6): Minister’s Statement 126 – 1(6) to Committee of the Whole
Pursuant to Rule 34(4), I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Baker Lake that Minister’s Statement 126 – 1(6) be moved to Committee of the Whole for discussion.
All those against?
Minister’s Statement is referred to Committee of the Whole.
Thank you. Ministers’ Statements.
Minister’s Statement 127 – 1(6): Ningartailinirmut Ikajurtauvvik
Mr. Speaker, as we all know there are problems with domestic violence in our communities.
This is a serious issue that we recognize needs to be addressed at the community level.
(interpretation ends) Today, in Rankin Inlet, the Ningartailinirmut Ikajurtauvvik officially opens its doors.
I am pleased to say that my department offered financial assistance to the program, along with Justice Canada and Solicitor General of Canada.
Ningartailinirmut Ikajurtauvvik is a spousal abuse counselling program for offenders and victims.
It is a local program meeting local needs.
(interpretation) This is a pilot project designed to try an innovative approach to addressing the very serious problem if domestic violence.
When a person is charged with spousal assault, the court may make a referral to this program, where the individual, and his spouse if she agrees, can receive counselling.
The counsellors in this program are an Inuit husband and wife, and it is their goal to help the participants learn positive ways of relating to their family members.
Participants will undergo an intensive program of counselling, self-examination, and group discussion.
It is hoped that those who participate in this program will be able to work out problems in their families without resorting to violence in the future.
(interpretation ends)This is a very significant program for Nunavut.
We have a high rate of family violence.
The Department of Justice is committed to supporting people who are prepared to make positive changes in their lives.
This approach is based on Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit in that it emphasizes the healing of the individual in the family context.
We will be viewing with great interest the progress of this project, as it is a model that has the potential to make a real difference in the serious patterns of family violence that we have in Nunavut.
Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members, please join me in congratulating the efforts of the community of Rankin Inlet on the official opening of the Ningartailinirmut Ikajurtauvvik.
Are there any further Ministers’ Statement?
Member’s Statement 409 – 1(6): Polar Bear Problems in Communities
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to talk about the safety issues related to tourist or resident polar bear encounters in one of my constituency communities of Qikiqtarjuaq.
This will highlight the issue more clearly as I have spoken many times in respect to the dangers posed by polar bears
I have been talking about this problem since I became a Member of the Legislative Assembly.
For many years, the community has been visited annually during the fall by dangerous bears in Broughton Island.
Parks Canada has closed tourism sites and certain areas outside our community in the last two years because of the numerous bears and more frequent encounters.
Then when they have been scared off they tend to bypass the communities.
Also, in the community of Qikiqtarjuaq, we undertake a lot of work to try to protect the people from the danger of polar bears approaching the community.
We now require a position in relation to polar bear enforcement from Parks Canada in Qikiqtarjuaq, one which will incorporate Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit in ensuring that bears are kept away.
This should be a position that is given a mandate in consultation with the local and the regional organizations.
The Government of Nunavut give the wildlife officers a mandate to keep the bears from the communities but there is no protection for people in the park.
We have one person who is employed in the park and it gives him a lot of work while trying to protect the community interests.
The people who work for Parks Canada in Qikiqtarjuaq, and Government of Nunavut wildlife officers have lot of responsibilities and Government of Canada should provide a full time individual to deal with the extra work required to protect the tourists from bears.
They should also be creating work for the people close to the communities and have them situated within the community.
We do not want the people, especially tourists to be in danger in the park or in the communities.
I would like to get a term of reference written to establish this position in conjunction with the other agencies responsible for ensuring public safety.
I would like an immediate response from the government in regards to the issue of the creating a position for the protection of the people in the park.
Member’s Statement 410 – 1(6): Bravery and Long Term Service Awards Given in Cape Dorset
Firstly, I wish to apologize to my fellow residents in the community of Cape Dorset.
When the commissioner was in Cape Dorset to give bravery, rescue and long time service awards, I was not able to attend.
I will mention the names of the people who received bravery awards in the past year.
Some are from the 1950s for these brave acts then and yesterday there were 15 in my community who were given bravery awards.
And as well, there were over twenty long service awards from the government service.
There was also the Governor General’s Award for one person.
Sukkualu Akesuk saved a person in 1977. Manu Pudlat, Daniel Tauki, Ningiutsiaq Peter, and myself Olayuk Akesuk, Derek Namonai, Taqialu Nuna, Quvianaqtulia Tapaungai, Kulula Joanasie, Kimiata Nungutsiuttuq, Tauki Ottokie.
I would like to touch upon the background about Tauki Utuqi and the brave act that he performed.
There was a young child who is now a 14 year old out sliding when a vehicle was driving by.
This brave young man pushed the child out of the way and he ended up breaking his leg but he saved this child.
That is a very touching story from this young person in Cape Dorset as that child was selfless enough to put his life on the line.
And as well, Nuna Par also saved the life of Kanaanginnaq Pootoogoo.
Kanaanginnaq Pootoogoo was one of the founding members of the Co-Op in Cape Dorset and he received the long service award for the Rangers award as well as the bravery award.
Mr. Speaker, I am just about done, but I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
Speaker: Unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays?
There are no nays. Please proceed. Mr. Akesuk.
And thank you fellow Members.
For the Long Service Awards for the Rangers in my community, Elijah Pootoogoo, Padlu Matthewsie, Mangittaq Kellypalik, Kimmiata Nungutsuittuq, Laisa Qajjuraarjuq, Atsiaq Alasuaq, Iqqaluk Nungutsuittuq, Naullaq Nunguittuq, Saviarjuk Jaw, Anirniq Samajualik, Salomonie Arnirmiuq, Qappik Pudlat, Timoon Toonoo, Nuna Par, Pinnguaqtuq Ottokie, Joani Ottokie and recognition awards were also given to two deceased ex-rangers, namely Padlu Millia’s family and Tommy Manning’s family.
As well, I mentioned in the beginning, the Governor General Award was also given to Quvianaqtulia Tapaungai for his tireless work in the community.
Member’s Statement 411 – 1(6): Human Rights
My statement may not be coherent but it is regarding the Human Rights of people all over the world, especially in regards to feelings and mental anguish.
Any person can become overwhelmed, especially young people undergoing physiological changes.
The problems that you experience, you feel that it is never going to end and a feeling of hopelessness grabs you.
But we have to realize that problems we face today will no longer be an issue when tomorrow comes.
Further, my life that I led the previous year is no longer the same as the life I am leading this year.
I would just like to state that in Nunavut, we have to be patient and look for tomorrow because every day is different.
Everything that affects you today may no longer be in your face tomorrow and everything is different and that is what every Nunavummiut has to keep in mind, especially our young people.
Speaker: Members’ Statements. Members’ Statements.
Member’s Statement 412 – 1(6): Soapstone Quarries
I rise today in support of carvers across our territory.
Mr. Speaker, the importance of carving and access to carving stone is reflected in the Article 19 of the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement which specifically addresses Inuit rights to carving stone.
Mr. Speaker, access to quality carving stone is a problem facing Inuit across Nunavut.
In my community, we have been lucky as we have a quarry.
However, Mr. Speaker, that quarry is dangerous and the artists are concerned of their safety.
Mr. Speaker, carving is an important source of income for many of my constituents, but they cannot carve if there is not have safe access to stone.
In addition, Mr. Speaker, elders cannot share their carving knowledge and skills with the youth if there is no stone available.
Mr. Speaker, the Department of Sustainable Development has many different programs that are designed to help artists and in their new business plan, there is mention of a carving stone supply program.
Mr. Speaker, I am concerned that the supply program will not address the needs of my community because we have a quarry already.
Mr. Speaker, people are still getting stone from the quarry but it is not safe.
Mr. Speaker, I would like a project to be undertaken in consultation with the people of Kugluktuk to improve safety at the quarry site. It is important that the supply program include a departmental visit, to quarries across Nunavut to ensure that they are safe.
(interpretation) Later on I will be questioning the appropriate Minister on this issue that I have stated.
Member’s Statement 413 – 1(6): Condolences to Kusugak Family
First of all, I believe that Inuit need comprehension of the exact terms when there is a Ministers' Statement.
An example of this is when the Premier said, “Ningarmatailinirngmut, but it was supposed to be Ningaqtailinirmut and it is in regards to spousal assault.
An office just opened there to deal with spousal assault issues and this is just a clarification in regards to that particular matter.
It was due to unfortunate circumstances that I had to go to Rankin Inlet urgently and I send my condolences and love to my granddaughter, Mrs. Kusugak and her entire family.
Also one of her daughters, Jean Kusugak, who used to be one of the interpreters, adopted a child who is named after me, because Jean is named after my mom.
Today is also a special day in my family as my wife is experiencing her birthday today, so I would like to say happy birthday to my wife.
I would like to make a statement today regarding the comments I received from the public during my unfortunate visit to Rankin Inlet which was a tragedy.
During that unfortunate time, I still had to do some errands and quite a few people were upset over what happened to my Ministerial portfolio.
There is a lot of confusion out there as to what happened exactly in the House, what the terms were, along with the rules that were supposedly broken and whether it was a personal issue. I will try to clarify the situation by posing questions later on during question period to enable those people who wanted to know by listening to the responses.
Even I am slightly confused based on my reading of the report.
I think there is a lot of misinformation out in the public about the incident.
I just wanted to clarify that and I thank the MLAs for your support.