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I know as far as one being on the MSB that things pop up, in the last three years that we were totally unaware of or had to deal with in a crisis situation.
We all know what those situations were.
So I am kind of hoping that this will be brought up and taken care of so this doesn’t put any undue hardship on members or the constituents.
Mr. Speaker, do you wish to respond.
The Clerk will do some due diligence on this, some research and report back to the Management Services Board and move it along from there.
Ms. Cooper would like to make a comment on that section.
Ms. Cooper: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
If I could just refer Mr. McLean to section 25(5) of the Act that is the provision that allows the Management and Services Board to establish by regulation basically deductions from indemnities for a member’s failure to attend session.
However, it goes on to state that if the member provides the Board with an explanation, that in the opinion of the Board is reasonable, then no deduction may be made.
Hopefully our Management and Services Board would consider maternity leave, perhaps a reasonable explanation.
Chairperson (interpretation): Thank you, Ms. Cooper.
Mr. McLean, any more.
Mr. McLean: No, Mr. Chairman.
The only thing that I would say to that is that it is covered there but then again sometimes it’s hard to get the Management Services Board together as a quorum for a meeting, as a member that sits there.
But I would like to see it. We talk about Nunavut and equality and things like that. I would like to see something in the Act specifically spell that out because like I say, there are more people, and like in Nunavut we all know today that there are a lot of custom adoptions, there are a lot of large families and things like that.
I am a member of the Management Services Board and I know that if Mr. Picco or somebody like that was in the situation that I would look kindly on them and help them all I could.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, that’s all I had.
I just want to extend Mr. McLean’s comments a little bit, especially on the Clerk’s answer that this is already practiced in other jurisdictions across Canada. I think when we are talking about Mr. Speaker’s opening comments on page three, also reflected in this bill about Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit.
That explanation I think should also be included in this section 32.
Section 32 and 33.
That is I support this because Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit is when your father or mother raises you until you are able to fend for yourself, able to hunt for yourself and you learn to become a hunter or sewer, then when your parents get old you turn around and look after them.
I have seen too many exercises recently in the last 25 or 30 years that every time we use our leaders, whether it is ITC or NTI or other capacities like regional organizations, that after we finish with them we dump them.
I have seen ex-leaders, former leaders that are not being hired by the government, very capable people.
Why because they are scared of them.
Maybe they have too much experience with the public life.
They negotiated the land claims agreement with the Federal Government, tirelessly, we use them and we dump them.
I don’t think Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit is represented by that.
I think Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit is to look after those who looked after you.
I think this clause here is a reflection of that.
Chairperson (interpretation): I didn’t hear a question, just a comment from Mr. Arvaluk.
That’s a good comment.
Under clause 33, I have a question.
I don’t understand something.
If not elected as a member of a subsequent Legislative Assembly…
I guess it’s the Inuktitut that I am having some confusion with.
If the member is not elected in a subsequent Legislative Assembly.
Can you give a short explanation on that please?
Section 33(a), if the present member runs for re-election in the next Assembly and he’s not elected by the people that member will get the transitional allowance.
In Section (b).
If the member in the present Assembly here chooses not to run in the next election that member still will receive a transitional allowance.
So you get it whether you choose not to run or you're defeated in the next election.
You will get the transitional allowance.
Clause 34.
Clause 35.
Clause 36.
Clause 37.
I agree that this is again something that’s new in this legislation.
It wasn’t there before and I think it’s great to have this in there but it does call for the Speaker after consultation with the MSB may in turn establish an independent commission to make recommendations on indemnities, allowances, and expenses and benefits paid to the members of this Assembly.
It has “may” in there.
Maybe, if I could just ask the Speaker, you know there is a lot of times when you look at legislations little words like “may” or “shall” make a big difference and I just like to ask if we can get an explanation as to why the words “may” was used for this particular section in the clause.
Mr. Chairman, to my mind it just allows flexibility to the members of the government as to when they, when they may like to do it.
If they want to do it and when they want to do it.
So it just allows that flexibility and members, any member is at liberty to raise this issue in the House for debate or for questions or motions pertaining to this, so on and so forth.
So, it’s just basically to allow the members flexibility on this particular issue.
Mr. Chairman, I think it’s great again that we see legislation that allows flexibility.
I know that often has been the problem with a lot of legislation in the past that it is too rigid and doesn’t allow having that flexibility.
But on this particular instance with this, the Speaker after consultation with the Management and Services Board, may appoint, and the Speaker had indicated that any member could go to the MSB and request this.  How many members, would it have to be a majority of the members or a majority of the MSB or just a request from one member to be able to set this process in place or before it happens?
Mr. Chairman, I believe an issue like this where it affects all members and their benefits and so on and so forth, that it probably would flow from full caucus. So it could be brought from full caucus by any member for discussion and to see where they wish to proceed from there.
So it would be a majority decision of full caucus would be the only way to have something like this done.
Given that this is consensus government and this particular item does affect all members, I thought it only fair that we got a full caucus, but that doesn’t stop a member from bringing up an issue, a formal motion in the House.
My point was in reference to the fact that it impacts on all members and it would only be fair I guess, to bring it up in full caucus with all members present to discuss it.
I guess what it boils down to would be that a majority of the members in the House would have to approve something like that before it would happen, regardless whether it was through a formal motion in the House or raised in full caucus.
Is that what you are saying?
Yes, that’s correct and I guess that would be another use of Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit as far as the democracy goes and what the discussions and debates would be about.
Continuing on.
Clause 38.
Clause 39.
Clause 40.
Clause 41.
Clause 42.
Clause 43.
Clause 44.
Clause 45.
Clause 46.
Clause 47.
Clause 48.
Clause 49.
Clause 50.
Clause 51.
Clause 52.
Clause 53.
Clause 54.
Clause 55.
Clause 58.
Clause 59.
Clause 60.
Clause 61.
Clause 62.
Clause 63.
Clause 64.
Clause 65.
Duties of the Deputy Premier.
If, say after an election year, six months into the election, six months after the Premier is picked by the Members of the House, he resigns for personal reasons or whatever and the Deputy Premier assumes the role because the Premier appointed him.
He was an appointment.
There is going to be a by-election, definitely will be a by-election right.
And the by-election could be anywhere from past experience, six months.
So the Deputy Premier would assume the responsibility of the Premier until the by-election and then there would have to be another leadership review to replace the Premier.
That is correct, because it is a consensus government.
My question is, we could be served by a Deputy Premier for up to six months.
So are we aware of the process, is it covered in the Act that okay, there has to be a full caucus decision and we have to go through another election among ourselves for a Premier.
I guess the answer to Mr. McLean’s question part of it would be yes and part would be no.
There is no requirement that you have to wait six months to select someone from within, you could do it right away or you could wait until you had the by-election.
But I guess that could go on longer than six months.
So it could happen but I think not.
Mr. McLean do you have any further comments or questions.
We went through this in a different capacity on a lower level that we just went into full caucus and elected through motion in the House to elect.
So that would stand, there is no difference to that, so if the Premier did go out for some reason, whatever, resign or move to another territory, or something like that, that we could do what we did before for the Speaker and the Cabinet members and just do a re-election, without the elected member being here like we did last time.
So is that the procedure that goes on and on and on.
We would just go through the same process that we used before which is through the leadership process and once again, this would all come through full caucus before we get to that point.
Going back to Clause 65.
Clause 66.
Clause 67.
Clause 68.
Clause 69.
I just need clarification on this one.
A person other than the Premier who is a member of the Executive Council at the time of the expiration or dissolution of this Assembly shall continue to be a Member of the Executive Council.
What you are saying is that after dissolution, the ministers continue to be ministers until the new selection process has taken place after the next election.
Is that the correct interpretation of this clause?
Mr. Chairman, that is correct.
The Premier, the Speaker and all the ministers would remain in this capacity up until the next election, just to make sure there was continuity and no void of authority and responsibility for the people.
Yes, we would remain until the first day of the session, of the new session.
Mr. Arvaluk do you have any further comments.
Thank you. Clause 69.
Clause 70.
Clause 71.
Clause 72.
Clause 73.
Clause 74.
Clause 75.
Clause 76.
Carried. Schedule A. Do you agree with Schedule A.?
Turning the page to 44 in Inuktitut, page 38 in English.
There is no chapter.
Schedule B. Do you agree?
Schedule C. Agreed.
Schedule D. Do you agree?
Bill 22, Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act.
Chairperson (interpretation): Does the committee agree that Bill 22 is ready for third reading.
I would like to thank the Speaker and his officials and our legal counsel Sue Cooper.
I would also like to thank the Clerk and Mr. Pollock.
The Speaker can vacate the witness table now.
A Member (interpretation): Thank the witnesses.
Chairperson (interpretation): Yes, I did thank the officials.
I’ll let the Speaker say thank you instead, to us.
I just want to thank the staff and Sue Cooper the legal staff and Alex Baldwin for their help on this document.
Also all the members for their questions and comments during the process.
What’s the wish of the committee?
Mr. Iqaqrialu (interpretation): Thank you. I would like to report progress.
I would like to ask the Speaker to return to chair.
Mr. Puqiqnak (interpretation): Mr. Speaker your committee has been considering Bill 22. I would like to report that Bill 22 is ready for third reading and Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with.
Mr. Kilabuk is the seconder.
Bill 19 - Supplementary Appropriation Act No. 3, 2001/2002  - Third Reading
Hon. Kelvin Ng: I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Baffin South, that Bill 19, Supplementary Appropriation Act No. 3, 2001 / 2002 be read for the third time.
Bill 20 - Interim Appropriation Act, April 1 to June 30, 2002  - Third Reading
Hon. Kelvin Ng: I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Iqaluit East, that Bill 20, Interim Appropriation Act, April 1 to June 30, 2002 be read for the third time.
The motion is carried and the bill has had third reading.
Meetings for tomorrow morning.
Meeting of the Special Committee at 9 o’clock in the Tuktu Room, followed by a meeting of Ajauqtiit.
Standing Committee of Community Empowerment and Sustainable Development in Natsiq at 9 o’clock.
Meeting of Regular Caucus at 11 o’clock in Nanuq.
Orders of the Day for Thursday February 28:
Bill 21
Bill 23
Bill 22
This House stands adjourned until February 28, 2002 at 1.30.
>>House adjourned at 5.51 pm.
DAY 51
Thursday February 28, 2002
2682 – 2713
Opening Prayer 2682
Ministers' Statements 2682
Members' Statements 2684
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery 2690
Oral Questions 2694
Petitions 2710
Tabling of Documents 2711
Notices of Motions 2711
Third Reading of Bills 2712
Orders of the Day 2712
Thursday February 28, 2002 2682
159 - 1(5): Minister’s Absence From House (Anawak) (Akesuk) 2682
160 - 1(5): Moving Towards Midwifery Training in Nunavut (Picco) 2682
161 - 1(5): Computers for Schools Program (Kilabuk) 2683
450 - 1(5): Baker Lake Art Exhibition (McLean) 2684
451 - 1(5): Taloyoak Women’s Sewing Centre (Puqiqnak) 2685
452 - 1(5): Implementation & Integration of Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit (Iqaqrialu) 2685
453 - 1(5): Documentation & Letters on Grave Relocation (Irqittuq) 2686
454 - 1(5): Setting Foundation for Youth (Alakannuark) 2687
455 - 1(5): AWG Host Society Donation of Tickets to Elders (Okalik) 2688
456 - 1(5): Tom David Kunilusie (Kilabuk) 2688
457 - 1(5): Non-Support of Bill 21, Supplementary Retiring Allowances (Tootoo) 2688
458 - 1(5): Sanikiluaq Canadian Rangers (Kattuk) 2689
459 - 1(5): Commissioner’s Awards Youth Achievement - Kingdon & Kilabuk (Picco) 2690
459 - 1(5): Plans/Update on Women’s Safe Shelter - Local Programs (Iqaqrialu) 2694
460 - 1(5): Police Officers in Grise Fiord (Williams) 2696
461 - 1(5): Grave Relocation Workers (Irqittuq) 2698
462 - 1(5): Leadership Training for Youth (Alakannuark) 2699
463 - 1(5): Plans for Dam Project in Nunavik (Nutarak) 2701
464 - 1(5): Financial Assistance for Soapstone Quarrying (Arvaluk) 2702
465 - 1(5): Plans to Correct Overcrowding of Iqaluit Classrooms - New Education Act (Tootoo) 2703
466 - 1(5): Update on Filled Positions in Decentralized Communities (McLean) 2705
467 - 1(5): Markets for Carvings (Iqaqrialu) 2706
468 - 1(5): Docking Facility - Pond Inlet (Nutarak) 2708
469 - 1(5): Appeals - RFP for Kivalliq Boarding Home (McLean) 2709
06 - 1(5): Baker Lake Group Home Re: Open as Elders’ Chronic Care Facility (McLean) 2710
084 - 1(5): Hamlet of Repulse Bay Motion Re: CIP Application (Alakannuark) 2711
085 - 1(5): Letter from Canadian North Re: NNI Status (McLean) 2711
Bill 22 - Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act - Third Reading (Ng) 2712
Thursday February 28, 2002  Nunavut Hansard
Thursday February 28, 2002  Members Present:
Speaker: Item 2. Ministers’ Statements. Minister Akesuk.
Minister’s Statement 159 - 1(5): Minister’s Absence From House (Anawak)
I wish to advise the members that the Honourable Jack Anawak will be absent from the House today, February 28, 2002 due to weather conditions in Cambridge Bay.
Minister’s Statement 160 - 1(5): Moving Towards Midwifery Training in Nunavut
Mr. Speaker, good afternoon and congratulations to our new Deputy House Leader, Mr. Akesuk.
Mr. Speaker, throughout history midwifery has played an important role in the birthing process in many cultures including that of Inuit.
Midwives often held a special place in society based on their skill in providing care, support and education to women and their families and most importantly throughout the pregnancy as well until after the birth.
Mr. Speaker, the expansion of the midwifery services in Nunavut is one of my long-term goals as your minister.
Thank you, Mr. Premier.
Mr. Speaker, as you know we have been striving to expand and enhance the midwifery services at the Rankin Inlet Birthing Centre to a regional level with a long term goal Mr. Speaker, a long term goal of launching midwifery in other Nunavut regions.
Mr. Speaker, we have made progress although we have been challenged by a lack of certified midwives.
Mr. Speaker, recognizing this shortage of staff and the importance of midwifery to Nunavummiut, my department has been working to develop educational curriculum for Certified Maternity workers and ultimately, for the first time in Nunavut registered midwives through a registered program here.
Indeed, the staff of the Rankin Inlet birthing centre are consulting directly with two Mr. Speaker, two representatives from the Nunavik Midwifery Program, which is in Northern Quebec, the Nunavik midwifery program to learn from Nunavik’s experience in setting up its own training programs.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank this opportunity to Ms. Tulugak and Ms. Crosbie for travelling to Rankin Inlet to share their knowledge with the dedicated staff of our birthing centre.
The issues facing our neighbours in Nunavik are so similar to our own that I know this meeting will be very productive in laying the foundation for Nunavut to develop its own training programs.
Mr. Speaker, I look forward to bringing back to this House more information about the exciting possibilities for Nunavut based midwifery training as we get closer to that goal.
Minister’s Statement 161 - 1(5): Computers for Schools Program
Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to describe a program called Computers for Schools.
This is a federal government program operating in co-operation with all provinces and territories, private and volunteer sectors.
Computers for Schools repairs and refurbishes donated surplus computers, distributing them to schools and libraries.
The Department of Education has placed over 500 multimedia and network capable computers in Nunavut schools.
These computers were obtained from Computers for Schools refurbishing centre in Quebec.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to report that the Government of Nunavut is donating surplus computers for the Nunavut Computers for Schools program, which this year will be operating a refurbishing centre at Inukshuk High School in Iqaluit.
Students will be learning computer repair skills and then recycling computers back into the school system.
This is also an excellent opportunity for involvement by corporate partners that include local businesses who supply learning materials, tool kits, freight and labour.
Government partners include the Department of Public Works and Services for hardware and storage and the RCMP for airlifting to communities.
Mr. Speaker, the Nunavut Computers for Schools program thus provides computers to schools at a reduced cost, training opportunities for youth and reduces toxic equipment from entering landfill sites.
Member’s Statement 450 - 1(5): Baker Lake Art Exhibition
Mr. McLean: Ma’na Mr. Speaker.
It is with a tremendous sense of honour that I rise today to speak about a landmark exhibition of Baker Lake Arts that will be on display in the Legislation Assembly next week.
The exhibition is entitled “An Inuit Perspective: Baker Lake Sculpture”.
This exhibition opened in Baker Lake on July 1, 2001 and is now on a national tour.
It's no secret that I have great pride of my home community of Baker Lake.
In addition to the wonderful people and spectacular beauty of this place, Qamanittuaq is renowned for its artistic and cultural heritage.
It seems like only yesterday that the Members of the Legislative Assembly joined me on a warm summer’s day at a barbecue at the Inuit Heritage Centre.
This centre has been in many ways the guardian of our community’s rich legacy.
The centre in partnership with the world famous Art Gallery of Ontario is responsible for this landmark expedition.
Over 34 sculptures from dozens of artists will be on display in the Great Hall of the Assembly next week.
It will include works from such people as Lucassie Saiyak, John Kavik, Joshua Nungialuk and Marium O'Neil.
I would like to express my appreciation to the Minister of Culture, Language, Elders & Youth for his department's support of this exhibition as well as Heritage Canada and also Canadian North's generous help in making sure the exhibits made it here on time.
We often honour artists’ work but we have not always followed through with the support they need.
Over the past year, Inuit power has exploded on to the world stage and my colleagues from Hall Beach and Pangnirtung have spoken eloquently in this House about the rich themes of talent in their constituency.
Exhibitions such as this year’s Baker Lake display are very valuable means of showcasing our communities and I look forward to many more in this Assembly during the years to come.
The exhibition opens on Monday with the ceremony at 7 p.m. I warmly invite all Members of the Assembly and the public to join me on that evening and I want to extend a special invitation to anybody from Qamanittuaq who is now living and working in Iqaluit to attend and share in your community’s pride.
Member’s Statement 451 - 1(5): Taloyoak Women’s Sewing Centre
Mr. Speaker, let me know when I'm running out of time.
My colleague and I weren't going to be talking about the same issue but I will be talking again about art.
My colleague just made a statement about the Baker Lake Art Exhibition and I rise today to talk about my constituency of Taloyoak.
The sewing centre has been open since 1992 and women have been working there since.
In 1995 they named it Taluq.
The women who work at the Arts Centre produce materials that are different and they are sent down to other provinces to showcase their art work.
I am very proud of the people who produce these materials.
Some of the women work in their home, they don't make a lot of money, but it’s excellent for the women to have this art centre.
Since 1995, Mona Igutak has been the Director of that centre.
We also have Mary Iqaliyuk, Joanne Manilak and Mary Kingatuk who work at the arts centre and I would like to thank those women for their contribution.
The Minister of Education and I went to that community and to the arts centre.
They produce beautiful materials and while we were there I saw some hats and I was going to try one because it was so beautiful, but the women over there told me it was a tea cosy and I mistook it for a hat.
I’m very proud of those women who work out of that art centre and I would like to urge everybody over there, all the members and everybody else to go there and buy pieces of art.
Members’ Statement 452 - 1(5): Implementation & Integration of Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to talk about, when our government was fairly new and how Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit was to be implemented into the government system.
Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit is something of high importance to the people of Nunavut but some people don’t seem to think too much of it.
But Mr. Speaker, I would like to say that there are a lot of things that we can integrate into the government system that are from Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit and we have to look at our programs and our systems to integrate Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit.
For example, my colleague from Iqaluit mentioned midwifery in his Minister’s Statement.
Someone from my community wanted to use midwifery and that is something that the young people would like to learn.
People a long time ago were born with only two midwives.
The traditional way of midwifery is something that the medical profession has not even considered or looked at.
If it is to be like this in the future then this will be unacceptable.
People in my community would like to use traditional midwifery and the young people would like to learn it as well.
This is something that we should all be proud of.
Member’s Statement 453 - 1(5): Documentation & Letters on Grave Relocation
Mr. Speaker, I would like to go on with the statement that I made yesterday and make reference to the responses to my question.
I would like to make some clarification.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday I was talking about the relocation of the gravesites in our community.