Title: The_term__Council__may_be_easily_misunderstood_by_
Category: Protocol_Calls___happenings

Author: jpitts
Date: 2018-05-15T16:08:05.845Z

Some useful feedback from the ethereum/EIPs Gitter channel:

Nick Johnson @Arachnid 01:55
Can I just say that “Berlin Council” is not a great name.
Micah Zoltu @MicahZoltu 02:05
So many people hating on the name of this thing. 
Thomas Jay Rush @tjayrush 07:18
Should be”Berlin Inclusion”. I can see the headlines now. “Magicians’s Council meets at Berlin. Only 100 Allowed In.” Stop calling it a council!
Nick Johnson @Arachnid 08:09
“Workshop” and “Working group” both sound better than “Council” to me
Or just “Meeting”
Jamie Pitts @jpitts 08:59
Interesting, @arachnid what do you think is wrong with it? I have my own opinions but don’t want to bias yours
Nick Johnson @Arachnid 09:01
It just sounds a bit exclusionary and far more ‘official’ than it really is. Councils have closed memberships.
It also sounds pretty pretentious. Like “the Tokyo accords” or “the Geneva convention”
Jamie Pitts @jpitts 09:03
LOL. ok that is good feedback. The Magicians metaphor can go too far and communicate the wrong intention.

So if you feel that “Council” as a term is just not right for what this set of meetings will embody, say that here. And declare an alternative as well.

Author: fubuloubu
Date: 2018-05-15T18:33:11.955Z

“The Berlin Brouhaha”

Author: boris
Date: 2018-05-15T19:41:36.891Z

I think we’ll end up just as “Magician’s Meetings”, and that’s what I’ve updated the site to read. See https://ethereum-magicians.github.io/berlin-council/magicians-meetings/
And – we are confirmed for July 14th & 15th at c-base.

Author: expede
Date: 2018-05-23T18:57:19.950Z

Perhaps “Ethereum Magicians’ Congress”? Keeps the heightened tone, but possible less exclusionary undertone. Less Tolkienesque, sadly

Author: boris
Date: 2018-07-19T21:41:06.355Z

I’m circling back around to this. I think we’re going full meme with this and people aren’t too fussed with the naming anymore? I shouldn’t have caved so easily the first time around 
Magicians – this forum and its members.
Rings – working groups
Scrolls – long term knowledge, playbooks, notes in the Github wiki
Councils – the tri-annual meetings that we’re committing to for now
Meetings / events outside of the tri-annual ones are likely to be Ring Meetings and regional and/or ad-hoc events. Back in Drupal land, we called them Drupal Camps, but that doesn’t fit our meme-ology.
Anyone?

Author: mariapaulafn
Date: 2018-07-23T20:46:59.064Z

Chipping in. I do not think, from a comms perspective that the word council has a negative connotation. What I do believe, is that the message has not been clear enough that EVERYONE can join these meetings. I tried to clarify in my blogpost, and got some interesting questions around.
I believe that if we can reinforce blogposts, invitations, share them on Reddit (always ask as I got enough karma), and etc. we can raise awareness on this. It’s not the word but the lack of communication.

Author: gcolvin
Date: 2018-08-01T23:41:57.493Z

It’s always been our intent that anyone can attend.  It’s also true, and Council sort of communicates, that we are gathered for a purpose, so those not deeply interested working on our technology will probably be very bored.

Author: Jason_C
Date: 2018-08-03T03:54:41.024Z

Is it too late to suggest “Summit”? It gives the heightened connotation, encourages networking and mingling, and matches the meme-core of all the mountains they climb in the book to meet their goals. Some might think they’re “top-brass only” and/or exclusive, but after many of the non-top-brass non-exclusive summits I’ve been to this interpretation might be on the way out.

Author: gcolvin
Date: 2018-08-04T19:28:05.249Z

Too late, I hope ;->