El Súper Clásico ( Mexico ) - wikipedia El Súper Clásico ( Mexico ) For the Real Madrid and Bar celona rivalry, see El Clásico. For the River Plate and Boca Juniors rivalry, see Superclásico. El Súper Clásico Team kits Other names El Clásico El Clásico de Clásicos Locale Mexico Teams América Guadalajara First meeting Guadalajara 1 -- 2 América Copa México ( 1 August 1943 ) Latest meeting América 1 -- 1 Guadalajara 2018 Clausura ( March 3, 2018 ) Next meeting TBA Stadiums Estadio Azteca ( América ) Estadio Chivas ( Guadalajara ) Statistics Meetings total 228 Most wins América ( 82 ) Most player appearances Juan Jasso Cristóbal Ortega ( 50 ) Top scorer Salvador Reyes ( 13 ) All - time series América ( 82 ) Guadalajara ( 74 ) Draws : ( 72 ) Largest victory América 7 -- 2 Guadalajara ( 20 February 1944 ) Guadalajara 7 -- 6 América ( 22 August 1956 ) El Súper Clásico ( English : The Super Classic ), also known as El Clásico ( English : The Classic ), and El Clásico de Clásicos ( English : The Classic of Classics ), is an association football match between Mexican clubs América and Guadalajara. It is considered the biggest rivalry in Mexican football, and one of the biggest in world football. Both teams share the distinction of being the two most successful Mexican football clubs in terms of championships, with both clubs tied with 12 league titles won. They are also known for their extensive fan bases throughout Mexico and the United States. Both clubs are considered the most popular clubs in Mexico, as well as the most hated. The clubs are also uniquely identified by their histories ; América is considered the club of the wealthy and establishment, as they are known for signing expensive Mexican and foreign players, as well as the fact that they are located in Mexico City and are owned by media company Grupo Televisa, while Guadalajara are known for their reputation of producing local talent. They are also the only two clubs in the league to have never been relegated. As of October 2017, América leads the all - time head - to - head results between the two with 82 wins to Guadalajara 's 74, with 72 matches ending in a draw. Contents 1 History 1.1 Riot of 1983 1.2 2000s 2 Overall statistics 3 Refereeing 4 Players that played for both teams 5 Managers 6 References History The first confrontation between what are considered the two most popular teams in Mexico ended with a victory for Guadalajara with a score of 1 -- 0. The rivalry began to flourish after the second match, when América defeated Guadalajara with a score of 7 -- 2 In the year of 1943. Although the huge defeat sparked embarrassment within the ranks of Chivas, it was almost two decades before the rivalry became the Clásico that is known today. Initially, América was struggling in the Mexican League. Halfway through the 1957 -- 58 tournament, América had only managed to win six points, placing them in last place in the overall standings. In danger of finishing lower in the standings, the club hired Fernando Marcos, a retired player and referee. By the 1958 -- 59 tournament, Marcos had transformed the team into a contender for the title. Although América 's level rose, Chivas was playing tactical football that was giving them good results. After the 1957 -- 1958 tournament, in which Club Zacatepec was crowned champions, Chivas managed to win a record four consecutive titles. The late 1950s through the mid-1960s could be considered the best era in Chivas ' history. During this time period, Chivas won the majority ( 7 ) of their eleven league titles, only interrupted twice in 1958 and 1963, by Zacatepec and Club Deportivo Oro respectively. Although América, or any other Mexican club for that matter, never achieved the same success in such a short period of time, an equally impressive feat is achieved much later by América. Mexican football had drastically evolved by the 1980s. The period of football domination between two teams was certainly over. Although absolute parity is never achievable, competition was more evenly distributed throughout the football clubs competing in the México Primera División. The 1980s is perhaps the best decade in Club América 's history. Up until then, no other club had managed the incredible success of Chivas. During this time period, América won five titles in the course of five years. First, starting in 1984, a series of three consecutive titles, followed by two consecutive titles starting in 1988. América achieved what no other team has achieved in present - era Mexican football. Despite consistency from both Chivas and América, after América 's glorious years and long after Chivas ' golden age, the two teams have only managed to win four titles between them, two apiece. Riot of 1983 In the second leg of the semi-finals of the 1982 -- 83 season, players of both two teams sparked a brawl better known as `` La Bronca del ' 83 '' ( `` The Riot of ' 83 '' ), which resulted in Chivas going onto play Puebla in the final by eliminating América during that playoff. The following season América would get to play Chivas once again in the 1983 -- 1984 final in which América came from behind on aggregate to defeat Chivas in to date the only final disputed between the two teams. In between the seasons of 1983 through the year 2000, América showed dominance over Chivas recording an impressive record of only 6 losses out of 43 matches against Chivas. 2000s One of the most memorable games played between Chivas and América during the Clausura 2005 tournament took place on 13 March in the Estadio Azteca. The game started with a goal by Pável Pardo at the 15th minute of the game. América would then attempt to solidify its hold on the game when, in the 38th minute, Óscar Rojas scored the second goal, capitalizing on a pass from Cuauhtémoc Blanco. During the 42nd minute of the game, with the first half about to conclude, Héctor Reynoso scored one of the most beautiful goals of his career, making the score 2 -- 1. Francisco Palencia would score the 100th goal of his career in the 58th minute, tying the score 2 -- 2. But América would again take the lead when, at the 78th minute, Pável Pardo made an excellent pass to Claudio López who did n't waste the opportunity to penetrate the goal tended by Oswaldo Sánchez. However, things would n't end there. Three minutes before the game ended, Palencia would make his 101st goal as a result of a magnificent play involving Ramón Morales and Alberto Medina. The score was tied 3 -- 3 although Chivas attempted yet another goal that came from Palencia. In 2007, America set the record for most wins in a year by defeating Chivas four times. In 2016, América and Guadalajara met a record seven times between league matches ( including play - offs ) and their semifinal Copa MX meeting. América came out ahead with a record of three victories, two draws and two defeats. In the two playoff - round meetings, América went undefeated against Guadalajara, with a record of two victories and two draws. Overall statistics As of 27 November 2016 Tournament GP AV GV GoalA GoalG League 157 43 49 65 176 206 Playoffs 24 15 5 30 17 Copa México 13 5 7 17 11 Campeón de Campeones 0 0 CONCACAF Champions League 0 Copa Pre-Libertadores 0 0 0 Interliga 0 0 Copa Libertadores 420 0 0 69 0 SUBTOTALS 192 68 62 62 235 240 Other tournaments and exhibition matches 33 13 9 11 53 46 TOTAL 226 81 72 73 289 286 GP : Games Played AV : América Victory D: Draw GV : Guadalajara Victory GoalA : América Goals GoalG : Guadalajara Goals Refereeing The record holders for matches refereeing the matches belonging to Marco Antonio Rodríguez and Armando Archundia with Marco Rodríguez ( 5 ) Armando Archundia ( 4 ) German Arredondo ( 3 ) Mauricio Morales ( 2 ) Francisco Chacon ( 2 ) Gilberto Alcala ( 2 ) Erim Ramirez Ulloa ( 2 ) Fernando Guerrero Ramirez ( 2 ) Paul Delgadillo ( 1 ) Hugo Guajardo ( 1 ) Jorge Antonio Perez Duran ( 1 ) Jose Alfredo Penaloza Soto ( 1 ) Cesar Arturo Ramos Palazuelos ( 1 ) Players that played for both teams A listing of the many footballers who have played for both Guadalajara and Club America : Note : On May 26, 2013, Francisco Javier Rodriguez became the first player ever in the history of Mexican football to champion with both teams. First having championed with Chivas on December 10, 2006. Salvador Mota -- with America : 1942 -- 1944 / with Guadalajara : 1944 -- 48 ? Carlos Iturralde -- with Guadalajara : 1950 -- 1951 / with America : 1952 -- 1956 Eduardo Garduño -- with America : 1947 -- 1949 / with Guadalajara : 1954 -- 1955 Raul Cardenas -- with America : 1959 -- 1960 / with Guadalajara : 1967 -- 1968 Ramiro Navarro -- with Guadalajara : 1965 -- 1968 / with America : 1968 -- 69 Sergio Ceballos -- with America : 1968 -- 1974 / with Guadalajara : 1976 -- 1977 Enrique Vázquez del Mercado -- with Guadalajara : 1969 -- 1972 / with America : 1969 -- 1970 Ruben Cardenas -- with America : 1970 -- 1973 / with Guadalajara : 1974 -- 1980 Antonio Zamora -- with America : 1970 -- 1973 / with Guadalajara : 1975 -- 1978 Francisco Macedo -- with America : 1971 -- 1973 / with Guadalajara : 1973 -- 1974 Albino Morales -- with America : 1972 -- 1973 / with Guadalajara : 1973 -- 74 Javier Sánchez Galindo -- with Guadalajara : 1974 -- 1975 / with America : 1975 -- 1979 Javier Cardenas -- with America : 1978 -- 1979 / with Guadalajara : 1979 -- 1985 Javier Aguirre -- with America : 1979 -- 1984 / with Guadalajara : 1987 -- 1993 Carlos Hermosillo -- with America : 1st run in 1983 -- 1989, 2nd run in 1999 -- 2000 / with Guadalajara : 2001 Ricardo Peláez -- with America : 1st run in 1985 -- 1987, 2nd run in 1997 -- 1998 / with Guadalajara : 1998 -- 2000 Luis Manuel Diaz -- with Guadalajara : 1983 -- 1987 / with America : 1991 -- 1992 Pedro Pineda -- with Guadalajara : 1991 -- 1992 / with America : 1st run in 1992 -- 1995, 2nd run in 1996 -- 1997 Gerardo Silva -- with Guadalajara : 1990 -- 1993 / with America : 1993 -- 1994 Luis García -- with America : 1995 -- 1997 / with Guadalajara : 1998 -- 1999 Oswaldo Sánchez -- with America : 1996 -- 1999 / with Guadalajara : 1999 -- 2006 Ignacio Hierro -- with America : 1997 -- 1999 / with Guadalajara : 1999 -- 2000 Damián Álvarez -- with Guadalajara : 1998 / with America : 1998 -- 2000 Gustavo Napoles -- with Guadalajara : 1st run 1995 -- 1998, 2nd run 2000 -- 2002 / with America : 1999 Ramón Ramírez -- with Guadalajara : 1st run 1994 -- 1998, 2nd run 2002 -- 2004 / with America : 1999 Joel Sánchez -- with Guadalajara : 1st run 1993 -- 1999, 2nd run 2001 -- 2003 / with America : 1999 -- 2000 Jesús Mendoza -- with Guadalajara : 1999 -- 2000 / with America : 1st run 2000 -- 2002, 2nd run 2003 -- 2005 Manuel Rios -- with Guadalajara : 1998 -- 2000 / with America : 2002 Alejandro Nava -- with Guadalajara : 1st run 2000, 2nd run 2001 -- 2002 / with America : 2002 Alvaro Ortiz -- with Guadalajara : 1999 -- 2000 / with America : 2002 -- 2005 Christian Ramírez -- with America : 2003 -- 2004 / with Guadalajara : 2005 -- 2006 Oribe Peralta * * -- with Guadalajara : 2005 / with America : 2014 -- present Edoardo Isella -- with Guadalajara : 2000 -- 2001 / with America : 2008 Luis Alonso Sandoval -- with Guadalajara : 2002 -- 2005 / with America : 2010 Luis Ernesto Perez * * -- with America : 2007 / with Guadalajara : 2012 -- 2016 Rafael Marquez Lugo -- with America : 2008 / with Guadalajara : 2012 -- 2015 Francisco Javier Rodriguez -- with Guadalajara : 2002 -- 2008 / with America : 2013 -- 2014 Ángel Reyna -- with America : 2009 -- 2011 / with Guadalajara : 2014 -- 2015 Alberto García Carpizo -- with Guadalajara : 2014 -- 2015 / with America : 2015 Other special notes * * In the cases of Oribe Peralta and Luis Ernesto Perez, Peralta then a player of CF Monterrey was out on loan to Guadalajara for the 2005 edition of the Copa Libertadores playing in four matches. He did not score a single goal. In May 2014, Peralta was transferred from Santos Laguna to America. The same happened with Luis Ernesto Perez in 2007, Perez was then a player for CF Monterrey but was loaned to America for that year 's edition of the Copa Libertadores. In the case of Ángel Reyna, Reyna was suspended from Chivas ' A squad in September 2015 due to disputes. With the firing of Jose Manuel de la Torre of whom Reyna had feuded with for some time and with the coming of Matias Almeyda, Reyna was left out of training sessions and coming matches. Reyna 's contract with Chivas was officially terminated on March 9, 2016. Managers To date only seven managers have led on both squads. Walter Ormeño and Oscar Ruggeri played for Club América and later managed rival Guadalajara. Ricardo La Volpe ( * * ) is the only manager to have served both squads in more than one occasion. Ignacio Ambríz became the first Mexican manager to lead in both. Walter Ormeño -- América ( 1969 -- 1970 ) ; Guadalajara ( 1972 -- 1973 ) Miguel Ángel López -- América ( 1984 -- 1987 & 1992 -- 1993 ) ; Guadalajara ( 1989 -- 1991 ) Carlos Miloc -- Guadalajara ( 1979 -- 1980 ) ; América ( 1991 ) Ricardo La Volpe * * -- Guadalajara ( 1989 & 2014 ) ; América ( 1996 & 2016 -- 2017 ) Leo Beenhakker -- América ( 1994 -- 1995 & 2003 -- 2004 ) ; Guadalajara ( 1996 ) Oscar Ruggeri -- Guadalajara ( 2001 -- 2002 ) ; América ( 2004 ) Ignacio Ambríz -- Guadalajara ( 2012 ) ; América ( 2015 -- 2016 ) References Jump up ^ `` ¿ Cómo nace el Clásico Chivas -- América ? ''. Terra.com.mx ( in Spanish ). 5 April 2011. Retrieved 25 November 2016. Jump up ^ `` FourFourTwo 's 50 Biggest Derbies in the World : 20 -- 11 ''. FourFourTwo. FourFourTwo. Retrieved 17 July 2016. Jump up ^ https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/top-50-football-derbies-world-11313881 Jump up ^ América, el equipo más popular de México Jump up ^ Univision.com Jump up ^ https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/top-50-football-derbies-world-11313881 Jump up ^ `` Mediotiempo Club America ''. El Clásico de Clásicos Club América vs Chivas Esmas Futbol http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1498160&s=mex&type=story http://hoy-deportes.com/chivas-vs-america.html Club América Ground : Estadio Azteca Training Grounds : Instalaciones Club América en Coapa Managers : Listing of managers past and present Presidents : List of Club América Presidents Rivarlies : El Súper Clásico Clásico Joven Players : First team Listing of players past and present Media : Club América Media National Honors ( 26 ) : 12 League Titles 1965 - 66 1970 - 71 1975 - 76 1983 - 84 1984 - 85 Prode ' 85 1987 - 88 1988 - 89 Verano 2002 Clausura 2005 Clausura 2013 Apertura 2014 5 Cups, 5 Supercups, Interliga International Honors ( 9 ) : 6 CONCACAF Championships, CONCACAF Giants ' Cup, Copas Interamericanas Reserves : Club América Reserves C.D. 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Question: who has won more clasicos america vs chivas
Answer: América