Do n't throw the baby out with the bathwater - wikipedia Do n't throw the baby out with the bathwater Do n't throw the baby out with the bathwater is an idiomatic expression for an avoidable error in which something good is eliminated when trying to get rid of something bad, or in other words, rejecting the favorable along with the unfavorable. A slightly different explanation suggests this flexible catchphrase has to do with discarding the essential while retaining the superfluous because of excessive zeal. In other words, the idiom is applicable not only when throwing out the baby with the bathwater, but also when someone might throw out the baby and keep the bathwater. Contents 1 History 2 Alternative expressions 3 Notes 4 References 5 External links History Earliest record of the phrase from Narrenbeschwörung ( Appeal to Fools ) by Thomas Murner, 1512 This idiom derives from a German proverb, das Kind mit dem Bade ausschütten. The earliest record of this phrase is in 1512, in Narrenbeschwörung ( Appeal to Fools ) by Thomas Murner ; and this book includes a woodcut illustration showing a woman tossing a baby out with waste water. It is a common catchphrase in German, with examples of its use in work by Martin Luther, Johannes Kepler, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Otto von Bismarck, Thomas Mann, and Günter Grass. Thomas Carlyle adapted the concept in an 1849 essay on slavery : And if true, it is important for us, in reference to this Negro Question and some others. The Germans say, `` you must empty - out the bathing - tub, but not the baby along with it. '' Fling - out your dirty water with all zeal, and set it careening down the kennels ; but try if you can keep the little child ! Carlyle is urging his readers to join in the struggle to end slavery, but he also encourages them to be mindful of the need to try to avoid harming the slaves themselves in the process. Some claim the phrase originates from a time when the whole household shared the same bath water. The head of household ( Lord ) would bathe first, followed by the men, then the Lady and the women, then the children, followed lastly by the baby. The water would be so black from dirt a baby could be accidentally `` tossed out with the bathwater ''. Others state there is no historical evidence there is any connection with the practice of several family members using the same bath water, the baby being bathed last. Alternative expressions The meaning and intent of the English idiomatic expression is sometimes presented in different terms. Throw out the champagne with the cork Empty the baby out with the bath Notes Jump up ^ Cheng Lim Tan. ( 2002 ). Advanced English Idioms for Effective Communication, p. 52. Jump up ^ `` What Does `` Throwing the Baby out with the Bath Water '' Mean ? ``. Wisegeek.com. Retrieved May 31, 2013. Jump up ^ Jewell, Elizabeth, ed. ( 2006 ). The Pocket Oxford Dictionary and Thesaurus ( 2nd edition ), p. 53. Jump up ^ The World Book Dictionary, ' Vol. 1, p. 146. Jump up ^ Nichols, James. ( 1995 ). Assessment Case Studies : Common Issues in Implementation with Various Campus Approaches to Resolution, p. 16. Jump up ^ Wilton, David. ( 2004 ). Word Myths : Debunking Linguistic Urban Legends, pp. 66 - 67. ^ Jump up to : Quinion, Michael ( 6 April 2013 ). `` Do n't throw the baby out with the bath water ''. Newsletter. World Wide Words. Retrieved 6 April 2013. ^ Jump up to : Wilton, p. 67. ^ Jump up to : Pilkington, Karl ; Marchant, Stephen ; Gervais, Ricky ( May -- June 2005 ). `` Explanation, throw the baby out with the bathwater '' ( Audio ). XFM. Retrieved November 8, 2013. Jump up ^ http://mentalfloss.com/article/55503/7-tall-tales-about-life-1500s-and-origins-phrases Jump up ^ Shaw Bernard and Edwin Wilson. ( 1961 ). Shaw on Shakespeare : an Anthology of Bernard Shaw 's Writings on Plays and Production of Shakespeare, p. xvii. Jump up ^ Kirkpatrick, Betty. ( 1999 ). Clichés : Over 1500 Phrases Explored and Explained, pp. 180 - 181, citing George Bernard Shaw 's `` Parent 's and Children '' ( 1914 ). References Ammer, Christine ( 1997 ). Throw out the baby with the bath water. The American Heritage dictionary of idioms. Boston, Massachusetts : Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. ISBN 0 - 395 - 72774 - X. ISBN 978 - 0 - 395 - 72774 - 4 Cheng Lim Tan. ( 2002 ). Advanced English Idioms for Effective Communication. Singapore : Singapore Asian Publications. ISBN 978 - 981 - 4122 - 35 - 1 ; OCLC 226051976 Nichols, James. ( 1995 ). Assessment Case Studies : Common Issues in Implementation with Various Campus Approaches to Resolution. New York : Agathon Press. ISBN 978 - 0 - 87586 - 112 - 8 ; OCLC 33132059 Quinion, Michael ( 6 April 2013 ). `` Do n't throw the baby out with the bath water ''. Newsletter. World Wide Words. Retrieved 6 April 2013. Shaw Bernard and Edwin Wilson. ( 1961 ). Shaw on Shakespeare : an Anthology of Bernard Shaw 's Writings on Plays and Production of Shakespeare. New York : E.F. Dutton. reprinted in 2002 by Applause Theatre & Cinema Books, New York. ISBN 978 - 1 - 55783 - 561 - 1 ; OCLC 49690475 Wilton, David. ( 2004 ). Word Myths : Debunking Linguistic Urban Legends. New York : Oxford University Press. ISBN 978 - 0 - 19 - 517284 - 3 ; ISBN 978 - 0 - 7394 - 5593 - 7 ; OCLC 54767339 External links Look up throw the baby out with the bathwater in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Pilkington, Karl ; Merchant, Stephen ; Gervais, Ricky ( May -- June 2005 ). `` Explanation, throw the baby out with the bathwater ''. XFM. Retrieved November 8, 2013. 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Question: where does the saying don't throw the baby out with the bath water come from
Answer: a German proverb