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代理主席，我想特別強調的一點，是我們現時不是要一位經濟學家來為預算案撰寫演辭，也並非需要天花亂墜的言詞，或基本上以常人不明白的語言來表達的那種理財新哲學。
Deputy Chairman I would like to stress that we are not asking for the Budget speech to be drafted by an economist nor do we need fancy rhetoric or the kind of new fiscal philosophy that is basically expressed in a language incomprehensible to ordinary people
我也無意吹毛求疵至這地步。
That is definitely not the case nor do I have any intention of being nitpicking to such an extent
現屆政府至今已上任兩年了，新政府本來應為大家帶來新氣象，以及新的做事模式和方法，但很不幸的地方，正如我過去5分鐘所陳述的論點，是我們看不到有這種情況出現。
Deputy Chairman I just believe that as a the current - term Government has been in office for two years now; as a new Government it should have brought a breath of fresh air to everyone together with new practices and methods but unfortunately as I have argued in the past five minutes we do not see this happening
我們只能捨本逐末地討論每一個枝 節。
We can only discuss every minor detail rather than the essential parts
例如有議員認為在創科方面投放的資源不足，因為相較其他鄰近地區，香港的競爭力不足，所以，政府應增加撥款。
For instance some Members consider that the resources invested in innovation and technology are insufficient and as Hong Kong is less competitive than other neighbouring regions the Government should increase funding in this regard
但其實多與少的概念是甚麼？
But actually what is the concept of being large or small in quantity?
代理主席，這才是重點。
Deputy Chairman this is the main point
所以，問題是究竟我們想帶領社會如何走？
Therefore the question is how exactly do we want to lead society?
在走的過程中，我們要以甚麼來配合、協助？
What concerted efforts and assistance should we offer down the road?
在財政司司長發表預算案時，我相信無論司長、香港大部分政府官員，甚至立法會議員也好，可能都沒預計到在我們進行辯論的今天，中美的政治形勢處於如此微妙或劍拔弩張的狀態，但財政司司長......難為他作為財政司司長，我們當然期望他能夠較普通人更高瞻遠矚，或有更多手的準備，以應付未來的形勢。
When FS delivered the Budget speech I believe neither the Secretary nor most Government officials in Hong Kong nor even Members of the Legislative Council might have anticipated that the political situation between China and the United States would be in such a delicate or tense state while we debate today but FS it is difficult for him as FS but we certainly expect him to be more forward - looking than ordinary people or better prepared to cope with the future situation
面對現時如此強烈不穩定的大格局，究竟香港這艘船在此風雨飄搖之際，要如何在大海行駛下去呢？
In the face of such a strongly unstable overall situation how exactly can this ship called Hong Kong brave the wind and rain to navigate at sea?
政治上，固然我們應該依賴特首帶領我們，但是，在特首帶領的過程中，財政司司長的工作也非常重要的。
On the political front it is beyond doubt that we should rely on the Chief Executives leadership but FSs work is also very important under her leadership
萬一兩個大國在這場貿易談判中談不攏，不能達成任何共識，甚至現時雙方互加關稅的情況在短期內不會緩和，這些情況對香港有何影響呢？
In the event that the two major powers fail to reach any agreement or consensus in this trade talk or even the current situation of both sides imposing tariffs on each other will not ease in a short time how will these circumstances affect Hong Kong?
相信有關的影響，已遠超每年、每季經濟增長率的簡單數學問題，而是實質上，我們的就業市場會面對怎樣的衝擊，在香港投資的外國資金會受到甚麼影響。
It is believed that the impact has gone far beyond the simple mathematics of annual or quarterly economic growth rates and essentially remained a question mark on our job market and the foreign capital investment in Hong Kong
如果外資逐步撤離香港，而促使他們撤離的原因，除了中美貿易摩擦外，亦可能是本港政治局勢有深切的改變的話，究竟我們會做甚麼來留住這些外國資金，令他們不會輕易捨香港而去？
If foreign capital gradually retreats from Hong Kong as a result of not just China - United States trade frictions but also a possible profound change in the political situation of Hong Kong what exactly will we do to retain these foreign funds and stop them from simply leaving Hong Kong?
每個地區固然都有各自優勝的地方，而如果外國的資金認為香港的優勢已逐步消失，那他們當然會過門而不入。
Given that every region has its own advantages if foreign funds consider that Hong Kongs advantages are gradually disappearing they will certainly skip our door
如果他們在經過時敲門告知我們，這還算是一件好 事，至少讓我們知道情況，但是，很多時候，他們真的是過門而不入，意思即是外國的資金在其投資的選項中剔除了香港，而之後，他們是不會告訴我們。
If they stop by and knock on our door to tell us what is happening it is somehow a good thing because at least we are informed but more often than not they really skip our door which means that foreign funds excludes Hong Kong from their investment options and they will not inform us afterwards
而很多時候，當外資選擇了我們的直接競爭對手後，我們才恍然大悟。
Often it dawns on us only afterwards that foreign funds have chosen our direct competitors
這樣，我想問司長，究竟他會如何應對這個急劇改變的形勢呢？
That being the case I would like to ask the Secretary how exactly will he cope with this drastically changing situation?
作為國際金融中心，我們當然不希望外國的資金輕易離開，我亦希望自己只是危言聳聽或過分憂慮，但萬一這些事情真的變成事實，究竟在財政司司長帶領下，香港特區政府會如何在金融上、在經濟發展上，保護香港免受這種經濟動盪影響？
As an international financial centre we certainly do not want foreign funds to leave easily . I also wish I were only alarmist or overly worried but in the event that such things really come true how exactly will the HKSAR Government under FSs leadership protect Hong Kong from the impact of such economic turmoil on its finance and economic development?
但遺憾地，財政司司長卻曾經表示，他認為即使沒有《美國關係法》抱歉，應該是《香港關係法》即使美國國會所訂立的《香港關係法》不復存在，對香港的影響也未必如想象中那麼大。
But regrettably FS has said that in his view even if there was no United States Relations Act―sorry it should be the Hong Kong Relations Act―even if the Hong Kong Relations Act enacted by the United States Congress ceased to exist the impact on Hong Kong might not be so great as imagined
我希望司長說的是事實，但他的說法建基於甚麼基礎呢？
I hope that what the Secretary said is the truth but what is the basis for his proposition?
這是我認為司長需要回應香港人的地方。
This is what I think the Secretary should respond to the people of Hong Kong about
特別是面對着現時當然，議會內其他同事都不下一次提及其他尖銳的政治問題，我們在此國際政治形勢之下，可能受到實質的改變、影響和衝擊，在這時候，究竟財政司司長有否作最壞的打算？
In particular now that we are faced with other currently acute political issues which other colleagues in the Council have certainly also mentioned more than once and susceptible to substantial changes influences and disruptions in this international political situation has FS prepared for the worst scenario?
說回預算案與本地的關係，我想特別指出一點。
Picking up on the local relevance of the Budget I would like to highlight one point
儘管我們是如此富裕的社會，每年預算案牽涉的金額如此龐大，可是，社會上仍然有很多人未能享受預算案所分享的成果。
Although we are such a rich society and the Budget involves such a huge amount every year many people in society have not yet been able to enjoy the fruits shared by the Budget
這已是財政司司長在本屆政府任內的第二份預算案，亦是他本人的第三份預算案，我認為他需要就這一點作出檢討。
This is already FSs second Budget in the current term of Government and the third one of his own . I hold that he should review this point
遠的不說，貧富懸殊固然繼續存在，同時，以公立醫院為例，香港人需要等候漫長的時間，才能輪候到相關的照顧，而得到照顧之後，卻有可能發現自己要坐在或睡在走廊，這當然是極度 不理想的情況。
Apart from anything else the wealth gap persists between the rich and the poor and in public hospitals for example Hong Kong people have to wait a long time to receive relevant care only to find themselves possibly sitting or sleeping in a corridor which is certainly an extremely unsatisfactory situation
是否財政司司長完全漠視了或不知道有這些問題存在？
Is FS completely negligent or unaware of the existence of these problems?
這才是我們需要再問的事。
This is exactly what we need to question again
當然，我剛才只是以公立醫院為例子而已，社會上還有其他亟待照顧的人仍得不到相關照顧，所以，我們要問最核心的問題：究竟司長為何連這些簡單的問題也解決不了？
As a matter of fact I have just taken public hospitals as an example and there are other needy people in society who are still uncared for . Therefore we have to ask the very core question why is the Secretary unable to solve even such simple problems?
代理主席，最後，在餘下的發言時間，我希望特別指出，公民黨很憂慮的，是政府沒有做到我剛才提到它該要做的事，但卻把龐大的資源投放在不必要的基建上，例如"明日大嶼"。
Deputy Chairman finally in the remaining speaking time I would like to particularly point out that the Civic Party is very worried that instead of doing what it should do as I have just mentioned the Government has put tremendous resources into unnecessary infrastructure such as Lantau Tomorrow
這正是為何我們認為財政司司長完全違背了他要照顧香港人的這個首要的基本責任。
This is exactly why we hold that FS has totally violated his primary and fundamental responsibility to take care of the people of Hong Kong
代理主席，我希望在此特別強調，我們憂慮的地方，除了是司長未做足他要做的事之外，還有他在財政預算案中，把公帑揮霍在不應花錢的地方上，我們對此表示強烈反對。
Deputy Chairman I wish to highlight here that our concerns lie in not just the Secretarys failure to fulfil his duties but also the squandering of public funds in his Budget which we strongly oppose
主席，我支持《條例草案》，但不代表我完全認同有關解民紓困措施的全部內容，我認為這些措施，正如今天議會內很多同事所說，其實是非常不足，其實可以做多一些，做好一些。
President I support the Bill but this does not mean that I fully recognize all the content of the relief measures . In my view these measures as pointed out by many colleagues in this Council today are highly insufficient indeed and the Government can do more and do better
最初，財政司司長在財政預算案中提出，減免薪俸稅、個人入息課稅和利得稅75%。
Initially the Financial Secretary introduced a proposal concerning tax concessions in the Budget to reduce 75 % of salaries tax tax under personal assessment and profits tax
在8月的時候，司長宣布加碼，因為要因應社會的實際環境，以及經濟下行風險，所以將寬免比率由75%提高至100%。
In August the Financial Secretary announced an enhanced proposal in response to the actual social environment and the downside risks of the economy and the tax reduction rate was thus proposed to increase from 75 % to 100 %
當時司長用9個字概括其紓困措施："撐企業、保就業、紓民困"，他提出的原因有兩個，第一是經濟下行風險非常顯著，消費非常疲弱，營商環境氣氛轉差。
Back then the Financial Secretary summed up the purpose of the relief measure in the following nine words of supporting enterprises safeguarding jobs and relieving peoples financial burden . His introduction of this proposal is based on two reasons . Firstly the conspicuous downside risks of the economy are evidenced by the weak consumer market and the worsening business environment
現在我們回看香港的經濟，跟第二季相比，有沒有好轉呢？
Looking back at the Hong Kong economy has the economy improved when compared with the second quarter of this year?
我相信不會有人認為好轉，只會是更差，因為這數個月的街頭暴力，令很多市民不敢出街，不敢消費。
I believe no one thinks that it has improved . The economy will only get worse because months of street violence have discouraged many people from going out or spending
我們看到有些商鋪被針對性地破壞和縱火，即使是一些沒有被針對的商鋪，也不太敢做生意，又或是沒有人光顧，所以紛紛落閘，損失非常慘重。
As we have noticed certain shops were targeted for vandalism and arson attacks . Even those shops which are not targeted do not dare to do business or are not patronized . As a result they all have their doors closed and are suffering from heavy financial losses
當然，除了本地因素之外，也有一些外圍因素，例如中美貿易戰等，我在此不作詳述，總之香港經濟從第二季開始至今，甚至乎到可見的將來，只要香港社會的混亂情況繼續下去，我們的經濟也不會好 到哪裏。
Sure enough apart from local factors there are also some external factors such as the trade war between China and the United States which I am not going into details here . Anyway as far as Hong Kongs economy is concerned since the second quarter or even in the foreseeable future so long as the social chaos in Hong Kong remains our economy will not improve
所以，司長最近加碼，推出另一輪利民紓困措施。
Hence the Financial Secretary rolled out another round of enhanced relief measures recently
或許我們看看這部分所說的第一階段紓困措施，企圖藉着減稅刺激經濟，減輕市民的經濟壓力，這方面做得是否足夠，又或是是否到位呢？
Perhaps we shall see whether this relief measure of the first stage which intends to stimulate the economy and relieve the financial pressure of the public through tax recessions is sufficient or can serve the purpose properly
當然，減稅對市民來說，是一件好事，2萬元的減稅上限，的確可以讓很多"打工仔"和小本經營的商戶無須交稅。
A tax cut is of course a nice proposal to the public . With the cap of tax concessions at 20,000 it is true that many employees and small business operators will not need to pay tax
但是，我想在此跟局長提出兩個觀點，以供參考。
However I would like to put forward two viewpoints to the Secretary for his reference
第一，減稅措施已經達到百分之一百，即是怎樣減也只是兩萬元而已，對普通"打工仔"來說，可能已經是幫到盡。
Firstly when the rate of tax concessions has already gone up to 100 % it means that whatever the amount of tax is 20,000 remains the highest amount to be rebated
如果再將減稅上限提升，可能幫助的是一些中產朋友或相對富裕的階層，這未必是局長想在議會內或報告中跟大家說的一件事。
This may be what the Government can do at its best to ordinary employees . If the cap of tax concessions is raised some middle class or rather well off people will benefit but this may not be what the Secretary wants to mention in this Council or in his report
不過，我想指出，要將現時的經濟狀況逆轉為良好的經濟環境，似乎很長時間也未必能做到。
Nonetheless I would like to point out it is unlikely that the present economic situation will become agreeable again even after a long period of time
如果只是減稅，而減稅已經減無可減，還有甚麼新招式呢？
If under this tax concessionary measure the amount of tax rebate cannot be increased anymore will there be other new measures?
這個正正是局長、司長和政府要考慮的情況。
This is exactly what the Secretary the Financial Secretary and the Government have to contemplate
如果政府只是提出減稅，對於一些小市民而言，他們今天可能會受惠，但有可能很快便要面對失業，甚至被裁員；他們明年是否還有資格繳稅，或後年是否有資格繳稅呢？
With this tax concessionary measure from the Government some ordinary citizens may benefit today but they may be unable to benefit if they have to face the prospects of unemployment or being laid off very soon . Will they still be qualified to pay tax next year or in the year after next?
這是一個很大的問題。
This is a major question
如果他們被裁員，明年已不用繳稅，那麼政府提出減稅措施或增加寬免稅項的措施，對他們來說，又有何幫助呢？
If they are laid off they will not need to pay tax next year . Then how can the tax concessionary or the enhanced tax relief measure help them?
政府的紓困措施也是"一樣、因循和守舊"，就正如我剛才說的綜援"出雙糧"、公屋免租、開學津貼等，這些措施以前已經提出及實行過，有甚麼新意呢？
The relief measures of the Government are also no different conventional and conservative . In regard to measures like the grant of one more month of CSSA payment rent waiver for PRH units and the student grant for the new school year that I mentioned earlier these measures have been introduced and implemented before . How innovative are they?
事實上，這些人已經在目前的安全網中，接受援助，政府想再加碼幫他們，當然沒有人會反對，但是否有些目前在安全網以外的人，更需要政府的幫助，但措施卻幫不了他們呢？
In fact the target groups concerned are already in the existing safety net and are receiving assistance . If the Government wants to beef up assistance to these people surely no one will oppose it . However are there people outside the safety net who need government help but are unable to benefit from these measures?
然而，他現時未能享有其他房屋福利，又不可能再申請公屋。
At present while he is unable to enjoy other housing benefits he is also ineligible for PRH
我相信很多直選議員也曾收到此類型的投訴，有些市民曾享受過一次房屋福利，但現時又搬離了公屋，住在"劏房"，政府當局的紓困措施又怎樣幫助他們呢？
I believe that many directly - elected Members have received such kind of complaints . Some citizens had once enjoyed housing benefits . After moving out of the PRH units they are now living in subdivided units
這群人的數目說多不多，說少不少，不過如果政府要進行統計，我相信很簡單地便會知道有關數字。
How can the Administrations relief measures help them? . While there are not a lot of such people the number is not small either . But I think if the Government conducts a survey it can easily get the statistics
當然有人會站出來指責我，說這些人已經享受過房屋福利，怎可以讓他們享有雙重福利？
Of course some people will come forth to accuse me saying that these people have already enjoyed housing benefits and they should not be allowed to enjoy double benefits
但請看看這群人，他們正是社會中在住屋需要上最需要幫助的，他們生活在水深火熱之中。
But please look at this group of people . They are acutely in need of housing assistance in this society and are all struggling in deep water
然而，多年來的預算案，即使有很多紓困措施，似乎都沒有哪一項可以幫助他們。
Nonetheless despite the many relief measures in the budgets for all these years it seems that not one of these measures can help them
如果當局完全不作考慮，又怎對得起這些辛勞一世貢獻香港的老人家呢？
If the Administration does not consider their situation at all how can it face up to the elderly who have laboured throughout their lives for making contributions to Hong Kong?
我經常對政府說，如果不幫助老人家，其實是愧對他們的。
I always tell the Government that if it does not help the elderly it should feel ashamed in the face of them
我曾經向政府一位很高層的女士......
I have made a suggestion to a female official of a very high level of the highest level in the Government
是最高層的女士建議，可否寬免一些長者自住物業的差餉。
I suggested granting a rates waiver for the self - occupied properties of the elderly
主席，若要寬免長者自住物業差餉，需要多少成本？
President what is the cost of granting a rates waiver for the self - occupied properties of the elderly?
其實，這種做法令到在社會上，不在政府的安全網以內的市民，長期得不到幫助。
In fact this approach will render those people outside the Governments safety net in this society chronically unprotected
局長，希望你回去考慮一下，不久的將來，我相信一定會有第三波、第四波的紓困措施，請你好好審視你這些紓困措施。
Secretary I hope that you can think about it after the meeting . I believe that in the near future there will surely be the third and the fourth rounds of relief measures so please examine these relief measures properly
主席，我想何俊賢議員剛才說的也是一番肺腑之言。
President I believe Mr Steven HO did speak sincerely just now
他把過去數個月至數年之間，心中的屈辱或怨氣傾吐，可能是想盡訴心中情。
He fully expressed himself about his humiliation or anger over the last few weeks or years from the bottom of his heart perhaps in a bid to pour out those emotions thoroughly
主席，但今天在席的是劉局長，相信不是何議員亟欲直斥其非的人；而真正須要處理及梳理何議員和其同事心中鬱結的人，應該是特首林鄭月娥。
But President it is Secretary LAU who is present today and he probably is not among those whom Mr HO is in dire urge to reproach . The one who actually should tackle and relieve the distress felt by Mr HO and his colleagues is the Chief Executive Carrie LAM
黃定光議員昨天說：如果不止暴制亂，即使政府一年或連續兩年、三年退稅也沒有用。
Mr WONG Ting - kwong said yesterday that when violence could not be stopped and disorder could not be curbed it would be pointless for the Government to rebate tax for one two or even three years consecutively
主席，我認為這真是建制派議員智慧之言，兩三句話便直指問題核心。
President to me this remark is without doubt a word of wisdom from a pro - establishment Member that hits the crux of the problem succinctly
沒錯，香港真的需要止暴制亂，但"暴"是警暴的暴，"亂"則是"林鄭"政府施政混亂的亂。
Yes Hong Kong certainly should stop violence and curb disorder . But then violence here means police violence and disorder refers to that in governance created by the Carrie LAM administration
如果我們再任由警方胡亂噴射藍色化學水劑、任由港鐵服務說停便停、任由一群零分高官安枕無憂，主席，莫說只是退稅，即使特區政府宣布從今天起香港人連一毫稅款也無須繳交，甚至提出人人"派錢"，我相信也於事無補。
If we keep on allowing the Police to spray blue chemical liquid erratically the MTR Corporation to suspend services at will and the team of senior government officials who score zero to stay unscathed and carefree President I think nothing can help not even if the SAR Government announces a complete tax exemption for Hong Kong people from today nor even if cash is handed out to everyone not to say a mere tax rebate
主席，今天是10月24日，香港在4個月前發生了甚麼事呢？
President today is 24 October and what happened in Hong Kong four months ago?
不知道大家是否還記得，在6月26日的立法會大會上，當時朱凱廸議員和區諾軒議員提出阻止中環海濱劃為軍事用地的議案，郭榮鏗議員又提出"不信任第五屆香港特別行政區政府"議案，當然亦有我們現時正在討論的《2019年稅務條例草案》。
I am not sure if Members can still remember on the Legislative Council meeting held on 26 June Mr CHU Hoi - dick and Mr AU Nok - hin proposed resolutions to prevent the rezoning of a site in the Central promenade to military use Mr Dennis KWOK proposed a motion on No confidence in the Fifth Term Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region . And of course also on the Agenda was the Inland Revenue Amendment Bill 2019 the Bill which is under our discussion now
不過，我認為大家在集中討論把責任推給民主派、推給整個社會運動之餘，可能忘記了一點，就是張華峰議員的表現。
But I think when we focus on putting the blame on the democrats and on the entire social movement in the debate we may have neglected one thing that is the performance of Mr Christopher CHEUNG
不過，主席，張議員其實犯了一個重大錯誤：張議員及在其背後支持他的建制派都在"拉布"，於是他們窒礙了民生項目的審批。
But then President Mr CHEUNG in fact made a huge mistake together with the pro - establishment camp behind him he filibustered and hence delayed the vetting and approval of livelihood - related projects
我一直以為"拉布"阻民生是保皇黨議員一直恨之入骨的事，是我誤會了嗎？
I always thought filibuster which brought harm to the livelihood was thoroughly loathed by the royalists―or have I got it wrong?
抑或在保皇黨眼中，順利把中環海濱"送中"及阻止不信任議案在議會上討論等政治任務，是較民生項目更為重要的呢？
Or in the eyes of the royalists are political missions such as surrendering the Central promenade to China smoothly and hindering the debate of the no confidence motion by this Council more important than livelihood - related projects?
我以為"保民生，撐經濟"6個字早已鑿刻在保皇黨額上，但最終這些原來也要放在政治之後。
I thought the royalists had been imbued with the phrase safeguarding peoples livelihood and supporting the economy . But eventually all these have to give way to politics
相隔4個月，退稅草案終於再次被提交到立法會，而退稅幅度亦由75%上升至100%。
The bill on tax rebate is finally presented to the Legislative Council once again after four months and the percentage of tax rebate has been raised from 75 % to 100 %
建制派的陳振英議員和我們民主派的區諾軒議員昨天亦分別指出，其實《條例草案》賦予的稅務寬免，根本沒有太多人可以受惠，對於香港的中長期經濟挑戰亦只能起到輕微的紓緩作用。
Yesterday Mr CHAN Chun - ying of the pro - establishment camp and Mr AU Nok - hin of our pro - democracy camp pointed out separately that few people could indeed benefit from the tax concession offered by the Bill and that the Bill could only render a mild relief in the face of the medium - and - long - term economic challenges confronting Hong Kong
對於25個百分點的提升，我們當然認為是"韓信點兵，多多益善"，因為錢從來是放在自己的口袋中，會較放在政府的口袋中為好。
Regarding the 25 percentage point rise we of course will welcome it since the more the merrier . It is also always better to keep money in our own pockets than that of the Government
再者，經歷了這4個月間特區政府的荒謬，相信香港人都會感到，與其交稅買子彈來射自己，倒不如把錢放在自己口袋，買更多裝備保護自己、保護身邊人。
What is more after experiencing the absurdity of the SAR Government in these four months Hong Kong people will probably prefer to keep the money with themselves for buying more protective gear for themselves and those close to them than to pay tax for buying bullets that may shoot them
而我亦更加相信大部分香港人在經歷了這4個月的事件後，在交稅時心裏也只想說："'回水'吧，林鄭月娥"。
And I believe it all the more that after experiencing incidents which have taken place in these four months the majority of Hong Kong people would only want to say Please refund Carrie LAM when they pay tax
其實，需要繳交2萬元以上稅項的人，很可能是收入比較高的中產。
Indeed those who have to pay over 20,000 in tax most probably belong to the middle class that earns more
眾所周知，中產一方面有消費能力，但同時亦是對前景容易失去信心的一群。
It is well known that the middle class is a group which enjoys better spending power but is at the same time easily susceptible to a loss of confidence over the future
既然財政司司長希望市民多消費，為何不乾脆提高退稅上限，讓相關人士釋放更多消費力呢？
Given that the Financial Secretary hoped that the people would spend more why does he not simply lift the ceiling for the tax rebate and unleash more spending power from the people concerned?
我亦希望稍後劉局長在回應時順帶向公眾解釋措施背後的邏輯，特別希望他可以引用具體理據和數據以說服香港人。
I would also like Secretary LAU to explain the rationale behind the measure in his reply citing concrete arguments and data particularly to convince the Hong Kong people
第二個疑問，是向我的保皇黨同事提出的。
The second query I raise is for my royalist colleagues
主席，我們兩邊的人也知道，每年要求財政司司長在財政預算案中多加一些利民紓困措施絕不是一件容易的事。
President Members on both sides of the Chamber know that every year it is definitely hard to ask the Financial Secretary to include more relief measures in the Budget
實際上，每位議員，不分黨派，往往也要"講到出牙血"才有機會爭取到一點兒好處。
Actually it takes a huge amount of persuasion for any Member regardless of his or her party affiliation to lobby for a possible bit of benefit
退稅率由4個月前的75%，增至現在的100%，雖然司長說增加這25個百分點與最近的政治風波完全無關，但稍為有邏輯和理性的人也會知道當中必然有關係。
The tax rebate rate has been raised from 75 % four months ago to 100 % today . Despite the Secretarys categorical denial all those with a logical and rational mind know that there must be a connection between the 25 percentage point rise and the recent political controversy
至於曾經發言的建制派議員也明言，是示威活動造成經濟不景， 政府亦希望透過更多退稅來平息民怨。
As for those pro - establishment Members who have spoken they did make it plain the demonstration activities had begotten an economic downturn and that the Government would like to appease peoples resentment with more tax rebates
好了，至此我想請問我的保皇黨同事，這多出的25個百分點退稅率，歸根究底是他們口中痛恨的那群示威者成功爭取回來的；由眼中釘爭取回來的東西，按道理，他們應該反對。
So now I would like to ask my royalist colleagues at the end of the day these extra 25 percentage points in tax rebate are successfully gained by the group of demonstrators whom they said they hated deeply . Logically they should raise opposition to the things which were gained through the efforts of their eyesore
主席，為何他們最終不會對局長這項修正案提出反對呢？
President why the royalists eventually do not object the amendment proposed by the Secretary?
另一個更大的問題是，退稅通過後，不知道保皇黨議員會否好意思敲鑼打鼓，自稱成功爭取百分百退稅呢？
Another more important question is after the tax rebate is approved will the royalist Members be bald - faced enough to make a fanfare and claim that they have managed to gain a 100 % tax rebate?
整個特區政府是否完全沒有責任呢？
Is the entire SAR Government completely free of responsibility here?
管治無方致令人上街是千古不變的定律，有因必有果，為何大家卻好像忘記了這個簡單原理呢？
Misadministration drives people to the street this is a perpetually valid premise . What goes around comes around . How come we have apparently neglected this simple casual law?
把"果"無限放大而忘記了背後的"因"，這才是更需要關注的一點。
Surely it is more worthy to note that effect has been so blown up indefinitely that the cause is neglected