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記憶猶新的是梁繼昌議員根據《基本法》第七十三條動議傳召警務處處長盧偉聰先生到本會席前解釋及交代水炮的運用對人體的影響，這的確令人失笑。
Still fresh in my memory is the motion moved by Mr Kenneth LEUNG under Article 73 of the Basic Law to summon the Commissioner of Police Mr Stephen LO to attend before this Council to explain and elucidate the impact of the use of a water cannon on the human body
我當然絕對不會贊成這樣的議案。
It is certain that I absolutely will not support such a motion
主席，我要申報我認識鄭若驊司長，但並非深交，她在業界內是非常出色的專業人士。
President I have to declare that I am acquainted with Secretary for Justice Teresa CHENG but we are not close friends . She is an outstanding professional in her sector
我記得曾有一次，我代表工程業界邀請她在一個論壇上以《基本法》為題發言，我認為她該次的表現非常好，她的理據非常清晰，而且她非常熟悉《基本法》，深入淺出地以道理來說服別人，解釋《基本法》中各方面值得我們關注的事項。
I recall that I once invited her on behalf of the engineering sector to give a speech on the Basic Law at a forum . I was impressed by her excellent performance on that occasion . Her arguments were very clear and she was very familiar with the Basic Law
我也要申報我認識她的丈夫潘樂陶先生。
I also have to declare that I know her husband Mr Otto POON
我認識潘先生，或潘博士工程師，是因為我和他都是香港工程師學會的前會長，潘先生比我資深，但我並非他登堂入室的朋友。
I know Mr POON or Ir Dr POON because both he and I are former Presidents of the Hong Kong Institution of Engineers and Mr POON is my senior in the profession but I am not one of his intimate friends who have visited his home
所以，我並沒有甚麼特別的資格為鄭若驊女士的僭建問題作辯解或辯護，這亦不是我需要做或應該做的事。
So I am not particularly qualified to make excuses for or argue in defence of Ms Teresa CHENG with respect to her unauthorized building works UBWs problem and this is not something I need to do or should do
我只是從市民真正的需求來考慮事情。
My only consideration is the genuine aspiration of the public
市民最關注的並非她如何處理其住宅僭建問題，而是她挑起律政司司長這重要擔子，她日後的 工作如何開展、如何表現。
The prime concern of the public is not how she deals with the UBWs in her home but how she is going to take forward her work and perform her duties in the future in her important capacity as the Secretary for Justice
律政司接下來需要處理數項重要的立法工作，包括"一地兩檢"和《國旗法》不，是《國歌法》才對，《國旗法》的本地立法工作早已完成《國歌法》的本地立法工作，以及很多其他工作。
The Department of Justice will soon need to deal with a number of important legislative exercises including the local legislative exercises for the co - location arrangement and the National Flag Law―no it should be the National Anthem Law; the local legislative exercise for the National Flag Law was completed long ago―in addition to many other tasks
作為香港問責官員，3位司長中的一員，律政司司長是非常重要的職位。
As an accountability official and one of the three Secretaries of Departments in Hong Kong the Secretary for Justice is a very important post
很多市民都期望看看鄭若驊女士進入政府後，是否真的能憑着她的專業知識，成為稱職的律政司司長。
Many members of the public are eager to see whether Ms Teresa CHENG can really become a competent Secretary for Justice by virtue of her professional knowledge after joining the Government
我沒有水晶球可以預估她做得好不好。
I do not have a crystal ball to predict whether she will do her job well
我只是說，這才是市民所關心的事。
I am just saying that this is what the public is concerned about
行政長官林鄭月娥女士挑選鄭若驊女士擔任律政司司長，目的正是選賢與能，希望找到真正賢能的人為市民服務，挑起律政司司長的重要工作。
In appointing Ms Teresa CHENG as the Secretary for Justice the Chief Executive Mrs Carrie LAM precisely aimed to choose a truly virtuous and able person to serve the public and perform the important duties of the Secretary for Justice
當然，她是否真的能做到她應做的事，達到市民的期望，仍有待觀察。
Of course it remains to be seen whether she is really capable of doing what she ought to do and meeting public expectations
只有在信實和睦的環境氣氛下，賢德之士才能為我們做事，才能奉獻自己。
Only in a sincere and harmonious environment or atmosphere can virtuous people devote themselves to working for us
基本上，大家都言之有物。
Basically all their speeches had substance
就這次會議而言，令我相當高興的是沒有聽到傳召鐘響起其實近來已很少聽到傳召鐘響起以致議員能夠在比較正常的氣氛下，就3項恢復二讀辯論的法案進行辯論和提出問題。
As far as this meeting is concerned I am very pleased that we did not hear the summoning bell ring―in fact we have seldom heard the summoning bell ring recently―so that Members were able to debate and raise questions about the three bills which had their Second Reading debates resumed in a relatively normal atmosphere
代理主席，兩年半前發生鉛水風暴，有11個公共屋邨發現食水含鉛超標，當中涉及29,000多個單位和家庭。
Deputy President the lead - in - water storm occurred two and a half years ago when excess lead contents were found in drinking water of more than 29 000 households in 11 public rental housing PRH estates
鉛水風暴捲走了香港人一直以來認為香港食水是優質和安全的認知。
The storm sweeps away Hong Kong peoples confidence in the quality and safety of our drinking water
風暴過後，帶來的影響是我們要重新建立一套監管食水安全的系統，從水源到家裏的水龍頭，都可以保障食水安全，令市民飲用的，都是真正優質、無毒害的食水。
As an aftermath of the storm we need to rebuild our regulatory regime to ensure the safety of water from source to tap in order to supply Hong Kong people with reliable non - toxic drinking water
較早前，立法會通過了一項相關附屬法例，即《2017年水務設施規例》，更新了消防供水系統及內部供水系統的水管物料和部 件的標準，減低因為水管和供水部件標準落後，或者品質差劣而污染食水的機會。
Earlier on the Legislative Council has passed the Waterworks Amendment Regulation 2017 a subsidiary legislation to update the standards for all plumbing materials and components to be used in works on fire services or inside services so as to reduce the possibility of polluting the water supply due to the outdated standards or the sub - standard plumbing materials and components
今天我們要通過的是《2017年水務設施條例草案》，該《條例草案》是要修正原來條例與現實操作不符合的漏洞。
Today we have to pass the Waterworks Amendment Bill 2017 the Bill to plug the loopholes arising from the deviations of the actual industry practice from the existing legal requirement
雖然法例一直有這樣的用語，限制甚麼人才可以進行這些工程。
While the language of the legislation has restricted the eligibility of workers to carry out the works it has been the industry practice for the past several decades to also have workers other than licensed plumbers engaged in such works
現在我們辯論的是《2017年水務設施條例草案》，我是相關法案委員會副主席，並一直跟政府進行商議。
The debate topic today is the Waterworks Amendment Bill 2017 . As the Deputy Chairman of the relevant Bills Committee I have discussed with the Government throughout the scrutiny
我相信議員和公眾都容易明白，為甚麼我們需要做這工作。
I think Members as well as the public will understand why we need to do so
我們在法案委員會進行了很多討論，主要圍繞持牌水喉匠和水喉技工相關的刑責問題，應該如何處理。
We have sufficiently discussed in the Bills Committee how we should deal with the criminal liabilities of licensed plumbers and plumbing workers
法案委員會曾舉行公聽會，我們聽到一些代表的意見，以及水喉業界提出的一些關注。
The Bills Committee has also conducted a public hearing to listen to the views of deputations and the concerns raised by the plumbing trade
我們知道，政府最後聽取了部分意見，從善如流，加入一些免責條款。
We know that the Government has finally taken on board some good advice and introduce a defence provision to the Bill
我覺得這是合理，我們可以朝這個方向走。
I think this is a sensible move in the right direction
所以，我們要合理地處理工人的相關刑責。所以，加入這項免責條款，我們覺得可以接受。
I think it is acceptable to introduce this defence provision to reasonably deal with the criminal liabilities of workers
但是，民主黨特別關心，工人如要依法進行水喉工程，避免觸犯有關法例，他們需要得到足夠的訓練，以及要有足夠的認知。
The Democratic Party is particularly concerned about the provision of adequate training to workers to equip them with sufficient knowledge so that they can carry out the plumbing works lawfully without contravening any ordinance
這樣有助他們，妥善進行水喉建造工程和好好履行相關責任，避免觸犯法例，並保障食水安全和市民健康。
The knowledge enhancement is helpful for effectively carrying out the plumbing works and the proper and lawful performance of their relevant duties thus ensuring the drinking water safety and safeguarding public health
水務署表示，持牌水喉匠對該計劃反應正面，並不抗拒參與持續進修。
According to the Water Supplies Department WSD licensed plumbers responded positively to the scheme and did not resist joining it
但是，這些進修目前仍然是自願性質，我多次向水務署和發展局官員表明，初期以自願性質推出持續進修計劃，我覺得可以接受。
However it was only a voluntary scheme . I have repeatedly told officials of WSD and the Development Bureau that it is acceptable for the continuing professional development scheme to be operated on a voluntary basis initially but it should be replaced with a mandatory one as soon as practicable
但亦應該盡快改為推行強制性持續進修課程。民主黨希望水務署跟水喉匠牌照諮詢委員會商討，協作業界訂立機制，規定持牌水喉匠及水喉工人續牌時修讀強制性進修課程。
The Democratic Party calls on the Government to discuss with the Advisory Board on Licensing of Plumbers to facilitate the formulation of a mechanism in the trade making it mandatory for licensed plumbers and plumbing workers to attend continuing professional development programmes in their licence renewal
這部分是必須的，不單持牌水喉匠需要相關的知識及技術培訓，我們剛才提及的各類指定水喉工人，其實也需要相關的知識及培訓，否則胡里胡塗進行工程而觸犯法例，對水喉工人及市民大眾也不公平。
Whether they are licensed plumbers or the various types of prescribed plumbing workers I have mentioned it is essential to provide them with relevant training to improve their knowledge and technique . It will be unfair to the public as well as to plumbing workers themselves if the workers breach the law in the course of the works due to the lack of knowledge
我相信持牌水喉匠沒有接觸到相關知識，水務署亦沒有為意這些情況，發展局對這些更不知情。
I think licensed plumbers actually do not have access to the relevant knowledge . WSD is not aware of the improper flux use while the Development Bureau simply does not know what is happening
即使多麼完善的法例，也未必能夠真的保障食水安全。
If the enrolment has nothing to do with the licence renewal we may not be able to ensure the safety of drinking water no matter how perfect the relevant legislation is
大家胡里胡塗的不按照標準及說明書做事，亦不留意國際監管水務標準提出的指引。
Out of ignorance workers may carry out sub - standard water works inconsistence with the instruction manuals and paying no attention to the guidelines published by WRAS
政府因為鉛水事件而特別留意焊料含鉛，但過去沒有留意如何使用助焊膏、松香膏也是一個問題。
The Government though it has kept a close eye on the lead contents in solder after the lead - in - water incident was actually not aware of the use of flux in the past . The use of rosin flux also poses a problem
對工人來說，他們應該得到足夠的保護。
We should provide workers with sufficient protection so that they will not commit any offence without their knowledge and thus have to defend themselves before the court
如果因不知情犯法而要到法庭辯解，雖然有抗辯的理由，解釋是不知情而不是刻意犯罪，可能可以脫身。
Even though it is a reasonable defence that they commit such crimes unintentionally without their knowledge and they may be able to walk free
但是，在保障工人及食水安全的前提之下，我認為強制進修是必須的。
Yet for the sake of protecting the workers and ensuring the safety of drinking water I think the taking of professional development programmes has to be made mandatory
在審議《條例草案》的時候，我曾多次質疑為何《條例草案》只處理持牌水喉匠及相關指定水喉工人的刑責問題？
During the deliberation of the Bill I have repeatedly questioned the rationale for only dealing with the criminal liabilities of licensed plumbers and the prescribed plumbing workers . In most cases these prescribed persons are only executors of the plumbing works in the entire workflow
在整個水喉工程建造的流程裏，這些指定人士往往只是執行者，特別是一些大型建築物的水務工程及設計，根本不是由持牌水喉匠或水喉匠設計或操作，而是由水喉匠以外的其他專業人士，特別是屋宇裝備工程師等專業人士負責，與持牌水喉匠及水喉工人無關。
This is particularly so in the construction and design of water works for some large - scale buildings . Such water works are neither designed nor operated by licensed plumbers or plumbers . It is the building services engineer and some other professionals rather than plumbers who are responsible for the water works
所以，在保障食水安全的時候不能夠只規管水喉工人及持牌水喉匠，必須同時正視其他水務工程持份者，包括發展商、總承建商、水喉工程承建商、水喉物料供應商、建築師、屋宇裝備工程師等專業人士，以及其他認可人士的法律責任問題。
In other words licensed plumbers and plumbing workers are not the responsible persons for the works . For the sake of ensuring drinking water safety we should not just subject plumbing workers and licensed plumbers to regulation . Instead we should also look into the liabilities of other stakeholders of water works including developers principal contractors contractors of plumbing works suppliers of plumbing materials such professionals as architects and building services engineers as well as other authorized persons
然而，《條例草案》目前完全沒有觸及這些專業人士，只針對工人，我覺得對工人、前線操作人員絕不公平。
Instead of dealing with these professionals the Bill only targets workers . I think this is utterly unfair to workers and other frontline operators
事實上，有關問題不單涉及水喉工人，還涉及相關專業人士。
Actually the lead - in - water problem involves not only plumbing workers but also relevant professionals
如果只規管工人而不規管相關的專業人士，其實沒有解決問題，因為錯誤教導水喉工人如何使用松香膏的是專業人士，他們又是否需要負上相關刑責呢？
We cannot solve the problem if we only regulate the workers but not the relevant professionals . It is exactly the professionals who wrongly teach plumbing workers how to use rosin flux . Will they be held criminally liable for this?
主席，我覺得我沒有離題，因為三讀辯論其實涵蓋政府的修正案......
President I do not think I have digressed because the Third Reading debate actually covers the Governments amendments
梁美芬議員剛才要求現任發展局局長作出補償，我不知道他能否做到，相信他應該做不到。
Dr Priscilla LEUNG requested the incumbent Secretary for Development to offer compensation just now . I do not know if he can do so . I believe he should fail to do so
我留意到，當局將中期驗水交由其他專業人士負責，未必一定委派持牌水喉匠。
I have noticed that the authorities have entrusted professionals other than licensed plumbers with interim water testing in some cases
對於這個安排，我聽到業界存在爭議，質疑政府為何委託一些業外取得高級文憑或並非從事水管工作的專業人士進行中期水務工程檢查。
I have heard that this arrangement has caused controversy in the industry . Members of the industry have questioned why lay professionals who are high diploma holders with no experience in plumbing works could conduct interim testing on waterworks
有業內人士認為，由修讀電工或一直從事土木工程的人士批核水務工程，可能存在問題。
Some members of the industry have maintained that problems might arise when waterworks had been approved by people who studied electrical works or who had been working in the civil engineering sector
但是，政府現時的做法，只會對新建工程或未入伙的大廈，抽取靜止6個小時的水樣本化驗。
However it is the current practice of the Government to take 6HS water samples from new estates or completed but not yet occupied buildings only
我們十分期待政府能兌現承諾，進一步將其他水務工程相關的持份者，例如我先前提到的發展商、承建商、物料供應商、其他的屋宇裝備工程師等相關專業人士一併納入規管。
We strongly hope that the Government will honour its pledges by further extending the scope of its regulation to include other stakeholders in waterworks including developers contractors suppliers of materials and other relevant professionals like Building Services Engineers as I have mentioned earlier
政府如能做好進口把關，設立批發和零售追蹤制度，市面便相對較少人售賣品牌來歷不明的水喉，以及不合規格及標準的配件，有助減少食水污染。
If the Government can properly play its gatekeeping role on import and set up a wholesale and retail tracking system fewer members of the public will end up buying water pipes of unknown brands and non - compliant substandard fittings which will help reduce the pollution of drinking water
我相信，鉛水事件後，業內人士都已加強警惕。
I believe that members of the industry have already stepped up vigilance after the lead - in - water incident
我也同意，水務署及發展局均已着手多項工作，相信這些工作仍會繼續。
I also agree that WSD and the Bureau have launched various works which will conceivably continue to proceed
民主黨希望香港訂立一套健全的食水安全法。
The Democratic Party hopes that Hong Kong will put in place a set of sound legislation on drinking water safety
政府表示，不抗拒及不排除訂立一套食水安全法的可能性，但這個說法過於被動，不夠進取。
The Government has advised that it would neither oppose nor rule out the possibility of formulating a set of drinking water safety legislation . However such statement is too passive and not aggressive enough
邵家臻議員正在跟進的個案中，有孩童因為飲用含鉛、銅或有毒重金屬超標的食水，造成身體永久受損。
In some cases being followed up by Mr SHIU Ka - chun some children have suffered permanent bodily harm after drinking water with excess lead copper or poisonous heavy metals
為免香港再有同類事件發生，我們要求訂立一套食水安全法，全面對每個環節、各個持份者進行規管。
To prevent the recurrence of similar incidents in Hong Kong we call for legislating for safety of drinking water to comprehensively regulate all stakeholders throughout the process
我們現時正朝這個目標邁進，希望政府承諾會繼續和致力落實相關工作，確保香港的水質達致國際級城市應有的水平。
We are now working towards this objective . We hope that the Government will pledge to continue its commitment to undertake the relevant work to ensure that Hong Kongs water quality reaches the level required of a world - class city
黃碧雲議員，如果你繼續離題，我會要求你停止發言。
Dr Helena WONG if you continue to digress I will ask you to stop speaking
當中的建設包括：訂立恰當的驗水取樣規程，以及收集靜止水樣本進行測試等。
Those recommendations include devising an appropriate sampling protocol and collecting samples of stagnant water for testing
正如我剛才說過，當局只在新建樓宇收集靜止水樣本，就其他維修工程或受鉛水影響屋邨的換喉工程，卻未有進行靜止水樣本收集。
As I said just now the authorities have been collecting samples of stagnant water only in new buildings . However no samples of stagnant water have been collected in respect of other maintenance or pipe replacement works in housing estates affected by the lead - in - water incident
《調查委員會報告》提出很重要的另一點，就是建議政府設立獨立的水質監管組織，全面監察水務署的表現及香港的水質，並授權該組織按需要進行獨立檢測及審核。
The Report of the Commission of Inquiry has made another vital recommendation . It has suggested that the Government set up an independent body to monitor water quality . This body will comprehensively monitor WSDs performance and the water quality of Hong Kong and will be empowered to conduct independent inspections and auditing when necessary
但是，目前發展局的做法，是由水務署負責供水，如水務署同時負責水質......
However under the current practice of the Bureau WSD is responsible for water supply . If WSD is at the same time responsible for water quality
黃議員，我已多次警告，但你仍繼續離題，所以我請你停止發言。
Dr WONG despite my repeated warnings you have still strayed from the question . Therefore I have called on you to stop speaking
如果沒有，我現在向各位提出上述待決議題。
If not I now put the question to you as stated
《2017年應課稅品條例草案》第7條的擬議修訂旨在規管在業務過程中出售或供應令人醺醉的酒類。
The proposed amendments under clause 7 of the Dutiable Commodities Amendment Bill 2017 the Bill aim to regulate the sale or supply of intoxicating liquor in the course of business
現在社會進步，銷售形式出現很大變化。
With social advancement these days major changes have occurred to the mode of sale
當然，世事無絕對，未成年的青少年也會買酒和飲酒，但我們要想想，據有關修正案的安排，甚麼時候才會出現需要進入住宅搜證的情況呢？
Of course nothing is absolute . Underage youngsters may buy and consume alcohol . But we need to think about these questions When will the authorities see the need of collecting evidence in residential units according to the arrangement of the amendment?
另一方面，如果家中有未成年人飲酒，他們是否犯法呢？
Besides will minors break the law if they consume alcohol at home?
請問交易紀錄代表甚麼呢？
May I ask about the significance of transaction records?
沒有這些資料，即使取得交易紀錄又有何用處呢？
What is the point of seizing transaction records without such information?
對執法有何好處呢？
How can so doing facilitate law enforcement?
效果如何呢？
What are the effects?
在整個立法過程中，民建聯和我皆很審慎、認真和細緻，盡量合乎客觀情況和實際操作給予考慮。
During the entire legislative process DAB and I have been very prudent serious and detail - minded seeking to give consideration based on the objective reality and actual operation as far as possible
主席，我們明白公眾人士或政治人物受市民監察，了解他們過往做過甚麼，是十分正常的。
President we understand that public figures or political figures are subject to public oversight and it is very normal to inspect what they did in the past
政府期望透過問責制，引入外界精英人士，包括商界人士、專業人士，為香港未來發展或政府管治帶來新思維，而非單靠傳統的公務員團隊。
The Government intends to through the accountability system invite outside elite including members of the commercial sector and professionals to join the Government so as to bring in new thoughts to facilitate future development or governance of Hong Kong rather than merely rely on the traditional civil service
問責制發展了10多年，我相信越來越多外界人士不願加入政府，因為他們需要將自己漂得很白。
While the accountability system has developed for some 10 years I believe more and more outsiders are unwilling to join the Government for they need to be whiter than white
但是，一個人生活工作數十年，要漂到很白是頗為困難，而且很多時候，我們也忘記自己曾做過甚麼。
However it is extremely difficult for one who has lived and worked for decades to be whiter than white . In many cases we forget what we did in the past
主席，我問你10年前某天你去過哪裏，跟誰在一起拍過一張照片，我相信你自己也不記得，但可能有人找出照片，然後問你，你自己可能不懂得回答。
President if I ask you where you went on a certain day some 10 years ago and with whom you took a photo I believe you might not remember . But if someone found a photo and asked you the same questions you might not be able to come up with an answer
在問責制之下，外界人士如果未適應"熱廚房"的熱度，未習慣危機處理，便很容易出事。
Under the accountability system outsiders will easily run into trouble if they do not adapt to the heat inside this hot kitchen and if they are not accustomed to crisis management
過往有很多例子，例如第一屆特區政府的"仙股事件"，馬時亨局長是第一個鞠躬道歉的高官，但他離任時是民望最高的一位局長。
There are many such examples in the past . For example in the penny stock incident that happened during the first term of the SAR Government Secretary Frederick MA was the first senior official to bow and apologize yet he had the highest approval rating when he left office
今天他貴為財政司司長，我相信他可以向我們交出好成績。
In his capacity as the Financial Secretary today he will I believe give us a good performance
即使公務員亦會出事，例如前發展局局長麥齊光出任局長一星期，便被人揭發二三十年前曾與另一人互相出租物業，再向政府申請租金津貼，但最終終審法院判決他無罪，還了他清白。
Even civil servants could run into trouble . Roughly a week after former Secretary for Development MAK Chai - kwongs assumption of office it was exposed that he had collaborated with another person some 20 or 30 years ago in renting each others flat and applied to the Government for rent subsidies but the Court of Final Appeal ultimately acquitted and vindicated him
當然，我們知道鄭若驊司長今次處理得十分不理想。
We certainly know that Secretary for Justice Teresa CHENGs handling of the matter is far from satisfactory
一直以來，很多人迫她出來解釋，但她沒有第一時間解釋，予人拖拖拉拉的感覺，直至上兩個星期，她才出席司法及法律事務委員會會議，花兩個多小時任由議員提問，並多番道歉。
Many people have all along forced her to come forward and give an explanation but she did not do so in the first instance thus giving people an impression that she was procrastinating . Only until two weeks ago did she attend a meeting of the Panel on Administration of Justice and Legal Services at which she spent some two hours taking questions from Members and she apologized time and again
鄭若驊擔任資深大律師，收入肯定較她當司長的薪金多幾倍，私隱也會得到妥善保障，晚上睡得安安樂樂，她為何決定加入政府？
As a Senior Counsel Teresa CHENGs income must be many times higher than what she earns as the Secretary for Justice; her privacy will be properly safeguarded and she will have a sound sleep at night . Why did she decide to join the Government?
我相信她主要是希望為社會服務，為大眾服務，利用她的專業知識為香港或特區政府做事。
I think she primarily hopes to serve the community serve members of the public and make use of her expertise to work for Hong Kong or the SAR Government
為何一位有能力的人才要這樣被追擊？
Why should such a capable person be pursued in such a way?
因此，我們應該給司長時間和空間，讓她表現她的能力，為香港司法制度好好把關。
For this reason we should give the Secretary for Justice time and room for her to manifest her capabilities and act as a good gate - keeper for the judicial system of Hong Kong
如果只是有人舉報，指不斷有人買酒進入該單位，又或不斷有很多青少年進出該單位，是否便可構成申請搜查令入屋搜查的理由？
If a report is received alleging that many people were seen bringing along alcohol and entering a domestic premise or a large number of youngsters were seen entering and leaving the premise constantly would this constitute a reason for applying a search warrant to enter and search the domestic premise?
換言之，只要任何家庭藏有酒類產品，便構成懷疑理由之一；而任何家庭有18歲以下青少年，其同學又經常到其家中玩耍，便構成懷疑有酒類買賣的理由之二，是否單憑這兩點便可以？
In other words it will constitute a ground for suspicion if wine products are stored in a household; and for a family with youngsters aged below 18 it will constitute another ground for suspicion of alcohol selling activities if the classmates of these youngsters often come to visit them at their home . Would these two points be enough to constitute reasonable grounds of suspicion?
而且，作為議員，我們要對香港市民負責。
Furthermore as Members of this Council we should be responsible to the people of Hong Kong
我認為，如果有關個案有需要以搜查令進入住宅搜查，但最終沒有清晰證據顯示有違法活動的話，只會令到事情複雜化，亦正如同事所說，可能會侵犯私隱。
My opinion is that if a search warrant is required to enter a domestic premises to search for any suspected illegal activities but the search fails to find any clear evidence in the end this will only complicate the matter; and as some Member has said this may infringe on personal privacy
我剛才聽到同事說由申請搜查令到進入住宅搜查，有甚麼標準來界定涉案者真的人贓並獲，可作拘捕呢？當中有成年人、未成年人，亦有酒類，如何處理這種互動關係呢？
I heard some Member ask the Government just now of the criteria to define a suspect who is caught red - handed and arrest can be made and how to define the interactive relationship at the scene where there will be adults and minors involving liquor
黃定光議員剛才說，要有甚麼人證和物證，物證是更難找到的，難道不法分子會作紀錄嗎？
Mr WONG Ting - kwong said just now that there must be witnesses and material evidence . Material evidence is even more difficult to find . Will outlaws mark down their illegal liquor transactions?
我看到局方今次很認真處理這個問題，這是值得給予正能量及點讚的。
I notice that the Bureau has made a great effort in handling this problem . This deserves our positive comments and applause
然而，如果公眾最終無法釋除對這部分的疑慮，恕我難以支持立法會貿然通過這部分的修正案，也沒有實質理據要這樣做。
However if public concern on this part of the amendments cannot be addressed I am afraid I cannot support the Legislative Council to pass these amendments . Besides there is no valid justification for me to do so