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就沉降事件，政府開誠布公，除發放沙中線沿線的沉降監測數據外，亦已設立監察及通報機制以增加透明度。
In respect of the settlement issue the Government has been open and transparent not only releasing the settlement monitoring data along SCL but also establishing a monitoring and announcement mechanism to increase transparency
顧問團亦準備選取在沙中線項目的一些個案進行審核，以評估監測及管制制度的成效。
The Expert Adviser Team meanwhile will audit selected cases of the SCL Project to assess the effectiveness of the monitoring and control system
他們所說的愛國情懷，究竟是指英國、中國、加拿 大、美國或全部都包括在內？
Is their patriotic sentiment meant for the United Kingdom China Canada the United States or all of them?
我認為這是相當科幻的一種情節，好像看倪匡的科幻小說一樣。
To me this is like a plot in the science fiction novels written by NI Kuang
他們指，香港外國記者會提供場地或平台給香港民族黨的陳浩天宣揚"港獨"，違反"一國兩制"，違反《中華人民共和國憲法》。
Pro - establishment Members pointed out that the Foreign Correspondents Club Hong Kong FCC had provided a venue or a platform for Andy CHAN of the Hong Kong National Party HKNP to promote Hong Kong independence which violated the principle of one country two systems and the Constitution of the Peoples Republic of China
提供場地舉辦論壇是否等於支持講者的立場？
Is the provision of a venue for the forum tantamount to supporting the position of the speaker?
借用場地給任何合資格的參與者表達他的立場，這是自由開放的社會應該有的安排。
Hiring out venues to eligible participants to express their positions is an appropriate arrangement in a free and open society
不要認為機構借出場地，便是幫助使用者，何況在當天演講場地的一眾外國記者，我完全聽不到他們表示很同情、支持陳浩天，提供資金、技術協助他宣揚"港獨"。
We should not think that organizations hiring out venues aim to help the venue users . I have not heard of any foreign journalist present at the forum on that day expressing sympathy or support for Andy CHAN or providing financial or technical assistance to help him promote Hong Kong independence
我反而聽到很多在場的記者提出質詢。
Instead I heard that many attending journalists putting questions to him
根據報道，陳浩天無法回答很多關鍵問題，尤其是如何可以成功搞"港獨"。
It was reported that Andy CHAN had failed to answer a number of critical questions especially how to successfully pursue Hong Kong independence
陳浩天有否舉辦過大型活動？
Has Andy CHAN organized any major events?
不過，政府煞有介事，要打壓及取締香港民族黨。
And yet the Government has acted in all seriousness to suppress and outlaw HKNP
更搞笑的是，由於外國記者會舉辦論壇，讓陳浩天發表主張，並讓他回答質詢，政府便拒絕續發論壇主持的工作簽證，將他驅離香港。
More ridiculous still after FCC organized a forum for Andy CHAN to expound on his proposition and answer questions the Government refused to renew the work visa of the host of the forum and expelled him from Hong Kong
如果一個論壇的主持人也會受如此打壓，被拒入境，香港政府是否打算將外國記者會的主席、執委，以及參與過當日論壇的外國記者全部一一逐離香港？
If the host of a forum was subjected to suppression and was refused entry did the Hong Kong Government intend to expel FCCs President Committee Convenors and all foreign journalists who were present at the forum on that day?
不要認為參與及籌辦論壇，便是支持論壇講者的意見。
One should not think that participating in and organizing the forum is tantamount to supporting the views of the speakers
論壇有時有一位講者，有時有兩位講者，有時有多位講者。
The forums may have one or two speakers and sometimes a number of speakers
特區政府很多現任和前任的官員，包括梁振英、林鄭月娥等，也到過外國記者會發表其主張，這是否等於外國記者會支持他們的主張？
Many former and incumbent officials of the SAR Government including LEUNG Chun - ying Carrie LAM etc had previously expressed their views at FCC . Does this mean that FCC supports their ideas?
常識真的越來越難在香港落地生根，越來越多人將常識扭曲為謬論。
It has become increasingly difficult for common sense to take root in Hong Kong because more and more people have turned common sense into fallacious arguments
我想問，如果依照這樣的邏輯，很多記者到維園六四燭光晚會採訪和直播，這又是否等於記者提供平台？
I would like to ask According to this logic is the extensive coverage and live broadcast of the 4 June candlelight vigil held at the Victoria Park tantamount to the provision of platforms by journalists?
國家地理頻道亦曾訪問前納粹分子，詢問他們如何評價當年的暴行，這是否等於提供平台給納粹分子宣揚納粹？
The National Geographic Channel once interviewed some former Nazis and asked them to evaluate the atrocities back then was this tantamount to providing a platform for the Nazis to advocate Nazism?
《人民日報》只有歌功頌德的人出現，批判政府的人絕無可能出現。
Peoples Daily only allows people to sing praises for the authorities and definitely disallows any criticisms against the Government
不要基於《人民日報》的辦報方式，認為其他傳媒報道某人的主張，便等於宣揚、讚頌、支持他。
It is inappropriate to think basing on the style of Peoples Daily that the reporting by other media of a persons idea is tantamount to promoting praising and supporting him
香港傳媒、國際傳媒很多時候也會訪問具爭議性的人物，批判他們的思維、言論、行為，這是開放社會應有的新聞和言論自由。
It is very common for local and international media to interview controversial figures and then criticize their thinking words and deeds . This is freedom of the press and freedom of speech enjoyed by an open society
主席，政府要作惡，第一件事便是"熄燈"、關門，驅趕記者，讓社會變得黑暗，讓社會上其他人難以知道社會真實狀況，讓其他地區或國際社會無法掌握當地的慘況。
President if the Government wants to do evil things the first thing to do is to turn off the lights shut the door and expel the journalists . In that case the community would be left in the dark such that other people in the community do not know exactly what is going on . Nor can other regions or the international community get a good grasp of the local dire situation
很多極權政府要鎮壓時，第一件事便是驅逐外國傳媒，禁止採訪。
When any totalitarian government wants to exercise suppression the first thing to do is usually to expel the foreign media and ban all news reporting
天安門鎮壓時，第一件事是"熄燈"，長安街、天安門廣場"熄燈"，驅趕外國記者離場，但仍然有很多記者不顧子彈橫飛，躲在很危險的地方繼續採訪和直播。
When the Tiananmen crackdown happened the first thing was lights out . Lights in Changan Avenue and Tiananmen Square were all turned off and foreign journalists were all driven away . But still many journalists hid themselves in dangerous places and continued to cover the news and made live broadcast disregarding the rain of bullets
這是記者的天職，也是我們守護人類文明的最後一道防線。
This is the vocation of journalists and the last line of defence of human civilization
如果政府高官看過"逆權司機"這齣電影，就會知道"光州事件"中，南韓政府如何封鎖消息。
If senior government officials have watched the movie A Taxi Driver they should know how the South Korean Government blockaded news during the Gwangju Uprising
即使在南韓其他地方，市民也不知道原來發生了這麼殘暴的鎮壓，全靠冒生命危險的記者到鎮壓地區報道事件。
People living in other parts of South Korea were totally unaware of the brutal suppression and it was the journalists who risked their lives going to the suppressed zones to report the uprising
特區政府有何看法，可以公布出來，可以發新聞稿反駁說"港獨"不可行，違反《憲法》，不得人心，香港市民不支持。
The SAR Government may make public its viewpoints or issue press release to refute that Hong Kong independence is not only infeasible and violates the Constitution but is also unpopular and fails to win the support of Hong Kong people
香港是自由社會，只要說出來是有道理的，市民會支持，國際社會也會認同。
Hong Kong is a free society . So long as the arguments sound sensible members of the public will support and the international community will give their consent
有誰看過國際社會發聲明說支持香港搞"港獨"？
Has anyone seen any statement issued by the international community to support the pursuit of Hong Kong independence in Hong Kong?
國際傳媒曾否發出聲明？
Has any international media issued any statement?
那些人說要搞"港獨"，也說不出要如何具體行動，政府卻把他們變成國際傳媒焦點。
Even those who vow to pursue Hong Kong independence cannot tell us the concrete actions to be taken but the Government has made them the focus of international media
英國政府表示，英國政府按慣例，會向被拒簽證的人解釋拒絕的原因。
The British Government on the other hand said that it would in accordance with established practices explain to the person concerned why his application for visa was rejected
是否拒絕他一次便永久拒絕他？
Does rejection for a single time mean rejection forever?
建制派議員說，馬凱明知犯法，卻要強行舉辦論壇，這是"衝紅燈"，現在自然不能讓他繼續留在香港。
Pro - establishment Members said that Victor MALLET insisted on organizing the forum though he knew this was unlawful . He was actually jumping the red light and naturally he was not allowed to stay in Hong Kong
香港的"紅燈"就是香港的法律，香港的法律有否禁止舉辦論壇？
The red light of Hong Kong is actually the laws of Hong Kong . Do the laws of Hong Kong prohibit holding forums?
提供場地的會所就要被查封一年半載，就如查封毒品和色情場所一般。
Any club that hired out venue has to be shut down for six months to one year as in the case of shutting down drug dens or vice establishments
主席，我在中文大學政治與行政學系就讀時，我們的論壇百花齊放，甚麼題目也有。
President when I was studying at the Department of Government and Public Administration of The Chinese University of Hong Kong many forums were held with diversified topics . Yet what is more interesting is our assignment
同學天馬行空，寫了很多東西，我也寫過如何令香港變成無政府狀態。
My classmates were very imaginative and presented a great deal of ideas and I had also suggested how Hong Kong could be put on the path to anarchism
這是香港的學術言論自由，教授要求我們寫這樣的論文，不代表宣揚無政府主義，這是普通常識。
This is the academic freedom and freedom of speech of Hong Kong . The fact that the professor asked us to submit a dissertation on anarchism does not mean that he advocated anarchism . This is common sense indeed
主席，特區政府經常說香港是國際都會，國際都會應該容許有不同的聲音，容許公開辯論，容許國際傳媒來香港聽取我們不同的政見，用批判的思維了解香港的真實狀況，了解不同人士的看法。
President the SAR Government often stresses that Hong Kong is an international city and an international city should allow different voices allow open debate allow the international media to come to Hong Kong and listen to our diversified political views and use their critical thinking to understand the real situation of Hong Kong as well as the views of different people
馬凱絕對不是香港第一位被驅逐離港的傳媒人，也不是唯一一位，也不會是最後一位。
Victor MALLET is definitely not the first media worker to be expelled from Hong Kong neither is he the only one nor the last one
我對香港的新聞自由和言論自由的空間越來越悲觀，我希望香港市民認清現在越來越黑暗的環境，挺身而出，捍衞我們的言論和新聞自由，捍衞我們的公民權利，絕對不可以讓香港繼續沉淪，絕對不可以再讓這群不知道手執多少本外國護照的建制派大談他們 的愛國情懷，接着說要打壓"港獨"......
I feel increasingly pessimistic about the room for freedom of the press and freedom of speech in Hong Kong . I hope that Hong Kong people will see clearly for themselves that the environment is getting darker and thus they should stand up to defend Hong Kongs freedom of speech freedom of the press and our civil rights . We should definitely not allow Hong Kong to continue to degenerate nor allow those pro - establishment Members who are holding many foreign passports to vehemently talk about their patriotic sentiments and call for the suppression of Hong Kong independence I am not talking about you Mrs IP dont be so agitated
為方便電視機前的觀眾了解我的議案，我會簡述我的議案的內容：本會委任一個專責委員會，以調查有關香港鐵路有限公司涉嫌隱瞞沙田至中環線建造工程不合規格及更改圖則、涉嫌於沙中線沿線8個車站建造工程期間有監測點的沉降幅度超出預設停工指標而沒有暫停工程及通報公眾，及其後提議放寬沙中線會展站工地附近監測點的預設停工指標的事宜，以及其他相關事宜。
To facilitate the viewers watching the telecast in understanding my motion I will state the content of my motion in brief That this Council appoints a select committee to inquire into matters relating to the MTR Corporation Limiteds MTRCL alleged concealment of the substandard construction works and alternations to the construction drawings of the Shatin to Central Link SCL alleged failure to suspend the construction works and notify the public when the settlement of some monitoring points is found to have exceeded the pre - set trigger levels during the construction of eight stations along SCL and subsequent proposal of relaxing the pre - set trigger levels for temporary suspension of works of the monitoring points near the construction site of the Exhibition Centre Station of SCL and other related matters
我亦希望該委員會獲立法會授權，運用《立法會條例》第92條下的權力進行有關調查。
I also hope that the select committee be authorized to exercise the powers under section 92 of the Legislative Council Ordinance Cap . 382 to carry out the investigation
代理主席，有市民或建制派的同事或會質疑，類似的議案曾於立法會上一年度的會議提出，何以現時再次提出，所以容許我先略作解釋。
Deputy President some members of the public or colleagues from the pro - establishment camp may query why this motion is proposed again when similar motions were proposed in the previous session of the Legislative Council . Please allow me to explain it briefly
第一，監督政府是立法會的憲制責任。
First the Legislative Council has the constitutional duty to monitor the Government
根據《基本法》第六十四條："香港特別行政區政府必須遵守法律，對香港特別行政區立法會負責......當前的問題是香港鐵路有限公司出現重大管治危機和重大的建築醜聞。
According to Article 64 of the Basic Law The Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region must abide by the law and be accountable to the Legislative Council of the Region At issue is that MTRCL is in a significant management crisis and embroiled in major construction works scandals
港鐵公司的大股東是香港特別行政區政府，而特區政府亦有數位官員是港鐵公司董事局的成員，所以此事並非單純是一間上市公司的管治問題，亦牽涉重大的公眾利益和政府監督等重要問題。
The Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region SAR is the principal shareholder of MTRCL whereas several officials of the SAR Government are members of the MTRCL Board . Hence the incident is not merely a management issue of a listed company as it also involves important issues like significant public interest and the supervision of the Government
立法會有重要的憲制責任，就涉及重大公眾利益的議題加以追究，並向政府問責及了解事情的實況。
The Legislative Council has the important constitutional duty of pursuing accountability for issues concerning significant public interest . It should also demand accountability on the part of the Government and examine the actual facts of the issues in question
因此，不論有關獨立調查委員會的工作如何，這並不會剝奪立法會應有的憲制責任和權力。
Hence the Legislative Council will not be deprived of its powers and due constitutional duty because of the work of the independent Commission of Inquiry
我希望各位同事不要以獨立調查委員會作擋箭牌，表示既然已有獨立調查，立法會便不應再進行調查。
I hope Honourable colleagues will not use the Commission as an excuse saying that the Legislative Council should not conduct an investigation because an independent inquiry is under way
事實上，根據本會的歷史，過去有多宗涉及重大公眾利益的事件，除有獨立調查委員會調查外，本會亦有專責委員會同時進行調查。
In fact in the history of this Council Select Committees were set up by this Council to conduct investigations into a number of incidents involving significant public interest concurrently even though the incidents were already under the investigation of relevant independent commissions of inquiry
因此，我希望大家履行立法會的憲制責任，支持我的議案。
Hence I hope Members will fulfil the constitutional duty of the Legislative Council and support my motion
第二，現時獨立調查委員會的職權範圍，即獲行政長官林鄭月娥授權的調查範圍有4方面。
Second the existing terms of reference of the Commission that is the terms of reference authorized by Chief Executive Carrie LAM cover four aspects
第一，是紅磡站工程的事實和情況；第二，檢討港鐵公司的項目管理和監督制度；第三，政府的監察和規管機制的涵蓋範圍；第四，建議適當改善措施。
First the facts and circumstances of the construction works at Hung Hom Station; second the review of the project management and supervision system of MTRCL; third the extent of the monitoring and control mechanisms of the Government and fourth the recommendations for suitable improvement measures
代理主席，在特首林鄭月娥提出上述這4方面的調查範圍時，只是整個沙中線工程的醜聞爆發的中段，當時仍有很多事情未被揭發，以致有關調查範圍相當狹窄。
Deputy President when Chief Executive Carrie LAM proposed the scope of inquiry covering the four aspects mentioned the outbreak of the construction works scandal of SCL was just in the middle . Since many issues were not exposed then the scope of the inquiry is quite restricted
在紅磡站事件發生後，我們看到土瓜灣站、會展站等工程問題陸續出現。
After the Humg Hom incident was uncovered we noted a series of problems with the construction works at To Kwa Wan Station and Exhibition Centre Station
我們且回顧自獨立調查委員會成立後發生的事件。
Let us review the incidents that occurred since the setting up of the Commission
第一，傳媒在2018年8月時揭發，原來港鐵公司和政府一直以來的報告全部是錯的，報道指政府人員發現，在"東西走廊混凝土澆築倉"中，港鐵公司 使用了一份未經屋宇署審批的施工圖，路政署署長鍾錦華形容新圖則與原來的圖則有很大改動，按新圖則的設計，推算工程較原先設計少用了2,000個螺絲帽。
First in August 2018 the media exposed that the reports of MTRCL and the Government were incorrect all along . According to reports government officers discovered that MTRCL had used a construction drawing which had not been approved by the Buildings Department BD for the concrete pours of East West Corridor . According to the Director of Highways the new drawing includes some major alterations to the original drawing where the design in the new drawing is estimated to have reduced the number of couplers used in the original design by 2 000
至於東西走廊共32個混凝土澆築倉中，有20個倉按照未經審批的圖則施工。
As for the 32 concrete pours of East West Corridor the works of 20 concrete pours was carried out according to construction drawings which had not been approved
不過，港鐵公司並無按規定指示承建商停工，而港鐵公司亦沒有要求承建商採取加固或緩解措施，更離譜的是，港鐵公司並無通報受影響的居民。
However MTRCL had neither instructed the contractor to suspend the construction works nor demanded the contractor to adopt strengthening measures or mitigation measures . And more ridiculously MTRCL had not notified the residents affected
一如毛孟靜議員剛才所說，沉降是會影響民居的，市民的生命和財產均在居所內，如此重要的事情，何以不向居民通報，致令市民日夜惶恐呢？
As Ms Claudia MO said just now the settlement will affect the residents . Since the lives and properties of the public are in their residence settlement is an important issue . Why did MTRCL not notify the residents thus causing them to be gripped by fear all the time now?
這是極不負責任的做法。
This is extremely irresponsible
接下來，我們看到更改圖則的問題原來比我們想象的更嚴重，原來禮頓建築有限公司擅自刪去了77幅連續牆的鋼筋，並無通知政府。
Then we noted that the problem involving the alteration of drawings was more serious than we thought . We learnt of the unauthorized deletion of the reinforcements of 77 diaphragm walls by Leighton Construction Asia Limited Leighton and that the Government was not notified of the deletion
港鐵公司及屋宇署在兩年後才發現，幾經轉折，才採用削牆補救的方式來彌補這77幅連續牆設計的頂層鋼筋被削走的問題。
MTRCL and BD only discovered the case after two years and resorted to the removal of a layer of wall structure as a remedy to the removal of steel reinforcement bars from the top layer of the 77 diaphragm walls after some twists and turns
承建商禮頓完全是自把自為，大家也看到禮頓已處於完全失控的狀態。
The contractor Leighton is acting arbitrarily at its own will . We can see that Leighton is completely out of control
代理主席，最令我感到憤怒的是，最近由政府委任3名前政府高層官員組成的沙田至中環線項目專家顧問團，完成檢視現時鋼筋造假的情況後，曾向港鐵公司提出建議，要求他們鑿開混凝土抽驗，確定鋼筋造假的情況有多嚴重。
Deputy President one issue makes me extremely angry . Recently the Expert Adviser Team for the Shatin - to - Central Link Project composed of three former senior government officials appointed by the Government has completed the examination of the falsification of reinforcement and proposed to MTRCL that concrete structures be opened up for spot checks to confirm the seriousness of the falsification
然而，對於由政府委任的專家顧問團提出的建議，港鐵公司居然以蜻蜓點水式的方法，找出數個位置抽查混凝土，敷衍了事，最終迫使顧問團發出中期報告，指港鐵公司現時檢查的數目遠低於會計統計的標準，要求迫使港鐵公司重新制訂一份檢測計劃。
Yet with regard to the suggestions made by the Expert Adviser Team appointed by the Government MTRCL dared to adopt a superficial approach by identifying several locations for concrete spot checks in a perfunctory manner . As a result the Expert Adviser Team cannot but issue an interim report stating that the existing number of checks performed by MTRCL is far below the statistical standard and requires and presses MTRCL to draw up another testing proposal
其實，在事發初期，我已告訴局長必須鑿開混凝土抽驗。
In fact when the incident was first exposed I did tell the Secretary that concrete structures must be opened up for spot checks
陳帆局長作為港鐵公司的董事，怎可以容許港鐵公司對專家顧問團的報告也敷衍了事呢？
How can Secretary Frank CHAN as a Director on the MTRCL Board allow MTRCL to respond perfunctorily to the report issued by the Expert Adviser Team?
我明白這一點，但我們現在要做的，是要找出事情的真相。
I understand this yet what we need to do now is to find out the truth of the incident
究竟問題有多嚴重；究竟問題是如何發生的；究竟問題該由誰負責？
How serious is the problem? . How did it happen? . Who should be held accountable?
如果我們不清楚找出事實及全面了解事情，試問日後如何汲取經驗和教訓呢？
If we do not find out the truth clearly and gain a full understanding of the case how can we learn from our experience and learn a lesson for the future?
主席，現時由前法官夏正民領導的獨立調查委員會，當然可以發揮其角色和效用，但正如我在發言開首時所說，調查委員會的職權範圍相當狹窄，而立法會亦有本身的憲制責任，調查一些涉及重大公眾利益的事件，我們不應逃避自身的責任，以及逃避我們應做的工作，把我們的責任假手於一名前法官及一個獨立調查委員會。
President the existing independent Commission led by Mr Justice Michael John HARTMANN will definitely perform its role and functions yet as I said in the beginning of my speech the scope of the terms of reference of the Commission is quite narrow . Besides the Legislative Council has the constitutional duty to investigate incidents involving significant public interest so we should not shirk our responsibility and avoid doing what is required of us and we should not shift our responsibility to a former Judge and an independent commission of inquiry
我們一定要找出事情的真相，只有這樣我們才可以重新起步，檢討港鐵公司應如何改革。
We must find out the truth of the incident for only by doing so can we start again and review how MTRCL should be reformed
事情不應像現在那些造假的鋼筋、被剪短的鋼筋、沒有旋入螺絲帽的鋼筋般，掩藏在混凝土內，我們不知問題會否在100年、50年或20年爆發，這並非應有做法。
The incident should not be covered up as in the present cases of falsified reinforcements covered by concrete steel reinforcement bars having been cut short and couplers not secured for we do not know whether there will be problems in 100 years 50 years or 20 years . This is not the proper approach
我們應該要對香港市民負責，對我們的下一代負責。
We should be responsible to the people of Hong Kong and our next generation
我們定必要徹查港鐵公司今次沙中線的重大醜聞，讓市民大眾清楚明白如此深刻的教訓。
We must investigate this major SCL scandal involving MTRCL so that the public will fully understand such a hard lesson
我謹此陳辭，希望各位議員支持我提出的議案。
With these remarks I urge Members to support my motion
第二，我亦不會討論"港 獨"，究竟事件是否與FCC的午餐會或陳浩天先生所作的言論有關，以及黨禁等問題。
Second I will not discuss issues such as Hong Kong independence whether the incident was related to FCCs club lunch or Mr Andy CHANs talk and the ban on the political party
第三，我不會討論言論自由。
Third I will not discuss freedom of speech
基本上，對我來說，言論自由與今次的課題無關。
Basically in my view freedom of speech has nothing to do with the subject now under discussion
第四，我不會談論究竟特區政府作出有關決定是否明智？特別是我剛才聽到涂謹申議員說，在中美貿易糾紛的大局下，究竟這個決定會否添煩添亂？還是毛孟靜議員提出的這項議案才添煩添亂、上綱上線？
Fourth I will not discuss whether it was sensible for the SAR Government to make the decision in question in particular as pointed out by Mr James TO just now whether the Governments decision would add fuel to the fire under the current climate when China and the United States are having trade disputes; or whether the motion moved by Ms Claudia MO would add fuel to the fire and blow the incident out of proportion
此外，我也不會討論，作為一個開明進步的社會，究竟當局應否採取比較前衞、先進、合乎文明和文化準則的決定？
In addition I will not discuss whether the Government of a liberal and progressive society should make a decision that is more avant - garde advanced and consistent with the culture and civilization standards
正如大家亦曾談及英國現時會說明因何拒絕某人入境，讓人可以提出上訴，這些我們將來有機會或許可以在政策委員會上討論，但這並非今次議案所涉及的話題，亦非代理主席李議員剛才所說，是否應該給予申請人機會，說出理由，讓他能上訴？還是應否有一把尺，量度先進、文明和公道的做法？
As mentioned by some Members the United Kingdom explains the reason for refusing the entry of certain persons so that the persons concerned can appeal against the decision . As these issues can be discussed at committees on policy matters should opportunities arise in the future they are irrelevant to the subject of the motion today; neither are they related to the question raised by Deputy President Ms Starry LEE on whether the reasons should be made known to the applicant for filing an appeal; or whether there should be a yardstick to measure if the practice is advanced civilized and fair
我要多謝易志明議員，他昨天發言時表示，每一年都有很多個案，很多人在香港被拒入境，當局也不會公開理由。
I have to thank Mr Frankie YICK who said yesterday that every year there were many cases in which people were denied entry to Hong Kong but the authorities did not make public the reasons
主席，另一個我留意到的比較是甚麼？
President there is another comparison that has caught my attention
FCC剛巧被指是交換情報的組織之一，所以會否經放大鏡放大後，有些事情我們未必知道，雖然這件事發生的時間比較不巧，但如果以放大鏡看一看，有些事可能是我們不知道，但當局是知道的而要作出有關決定。
It happens that FCC is being accused of engaging in information exchange . Hence when the case was examined under a magnifying glass would there be things that were unknown to us? . Although this incident happened at a rather inconvenient time if the case was examined under a magnifying glass there might be things that were unknown to us but known to the Government and it had to make the decision accordingly
主席，我剛才說過不談言論自由，而事實上，要評論香港的言論自由，的確我覺得可以套用一句說話，便是還有很多改善空間。
President I have said that I would not talk about freedom of speech . But as a matter of fact to comment on Hong Kongs freedom of speech I can quote the saying that there is much room for improvement
他開始發言時說"四不講"，但一講便講了15分鐘。
At the beginning he said there were four issues he would not discuss; but in the end he has spoken for 15 minutes
"不過，我想謝議員一定不會離開，他如此雄辯滔滔，一定有方法爭取繼續在那裏享用午餐。
However I think Mr TSE certainly will not leave . Being such an eloquent speaker Mr TSE can surely argue them into letting him stay and continue to enjoy his lunch there
馬凱是FCC的副主席，無故被拒入境，情況等同謝議員在FCC用膳時無故被趕走一樣。
Victor MALLET Vice President of FCC was refused entry to Hong Kong for no reason . That is similar to Mr TSE being expelled for no reason from FCC when he was having a meal there
這與新聞自由無關嗎？
Is the matter unrelated to freedom of the press?