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原來政府可透過土地查冊來確保提出申請的市民，不會獲差餉寬免超過4,000元，這樣他們才合資格申請補足差額。
Actually the Government can through land search confirm that the applicant has not received rates concession of more than 4,000 and is thus eligible for receiving the shortfall
因此，我有理由相信政府絕對有辦法把市民身份與差餉估價冊扣連起來，只須比對差餉估價冊和土地註冊處的資料便可。
Hence I have reasons to believe that the Government is able to link up the ratepayers identity with the records in the Valuation List . All it has to do is to compare the information in the Valuation List and that of the Land Registry
因此，政府過去多年拒絕規定1個住戶可獲豁免差餉的單位數目上限，並不成立。
Therefore the reason cited by the Government over the years for not limiting the number of rateable properties per ratepayer eligible for rates concession is not valid
政府早就可以做到，只是不願做而已。
The Government was able to do so long ago; it just does not want to undertake the work
如果政府連比對差餉估價冊和土地註冊資料也懶做，民主黨亦曾提出，規定業主向政府申領豁免單位的數目，持數百個單位的人也只能就某一數目的單位申領豁免，可能是1個，可能是3個，這方面的行政開支極為有限。
If the Government is too lazy to compare the information in the Valuation List and that of land records the Democratic Party once proposed to require a property owner to apply to the Government the number of properties for rates concessions . So a person holding several hundred properties can only apply for rates concession for a limited number of properties say one or three and the administration cost involved is very low
無論是限制領取差餉豁免的單位數目，或是規定 業主須申請豁免單位數目的上限，均切實、簡單、可行，亦可令差餉豁免更能針對有需要的人，更符合政府和林鄭月娥所說的"理財新哲學"。
The measures of limiting the number of properties eligible for rates concession or limiting the number of properties that an owner can apply for rates concession are practicable simple and feasible . As such the rates concession measure can be more targeted to help the needy and better tie in with the new fiscal philosophy advocated by the Government and Carrie LAM
如果政府連限制差餉豁免單位數目都懶做，起碼也應規定某類型的單位不能豁免差餉。
If the Government is too lazy to limit the number of properties eligible for rates concession at least it should specify the types of properties not eligible for rates concession
眾所周知，差餉物業估價署每月均會公布各類單位的價格，包括各面積住宅、非住宅的價格。
As we all know RVD publishes every month the prices of various types of property units including the prices of residential and non - residential units of various sizes
在非住宅中，亦包括零售、工廈、各級寫字樓等單位，亦即是說政府有方法知道繳納差餉單位的類型，所以如果政府要在未來設限也是可行的。
Non - residential units include shops factory buildings and offices of various grades . That is to say the Government has information on the types of rateable units and hence it is feasible to set restrictions in the future
一言以蔽之，"非不能也，實不為也"。
In a word That is a case of not doing it not a case of not being able to do it
今年的差餉豁免令已自動生效，我們今天只是察悉，但仍希望政府聽到議員的意見，在未來作出改善，以顯示政府亦曾努力嘗試過。
The rating exemption order has come into operation automatically this year . We only take note of it today but we still hope that the Government will take on board Members views and make improvements in the future so as to show that efforts have been made
主席，我發言支持易志明議員提出的《2018年海員俱樂部法團條例草案》。
President I speak in support of the Sailors Home and Missions to Seamen Incorporation Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill introduced by Mr Frankie YICK
我發言只是想提出兩點觀察，這兩點令我感到很好奇和很疑惑，希望各位高明可以解除我的疑惑。
I would only make two points of observation which have very much surprised and baffled me; and I hope that some learned Members can clear my doubts
其實，中華人民共和國在香港恢復行使主權已經21年，為何這項《條例草案》到今時今日才提交立法會處理？
In fact it has been 21 years since the Peoples Republic of China resumed sovereignty over Hong Kong; why is the Bill introduced to the Legislative Council only now?
第1部將"Seamen"改為"Seafarers"，這項修訂我當然絕對支持，因為不單是男人才做海員，女人也可以做海員。
I will certainly agree to the amendment of changing the term Seamen to Seafarers in Part 1 because there are not only men seafarers but also women seafarers
易志明議員說他是跟隨《2006年海事勞工公約》的"非性別專用詞語"，所以以"Seafarers"取代"Seamen"這個提述。
Mr Frankie YICK said that he replaced all references to Seamen by Seafarers following the non - gender specific terminology of the Maritime Labour Convention 2006
換言之，"Seafarers"這用詞早於2006年在《公約》已經出現。
In other words the term Seafarers appeared in the Convention in as early as 2006
從2006年至今擔任海員的女性，仍然被稱為"Seamen"，這令我感到有點困惑，由2006年至2017年已有十一二年，之前代表運輸界功能界別的議員有否察覺到這問題？
From 2006 till now women seafarers have been called Seamen; and that baffles me . It has been 11 or 12 years from 2006 to 2017 has the Member representing the Transport Functional Constituency previously not noticed the problem?
他有否嘗試提出修訂，還是他想做而做不到？
Has the Member tried to introduce amendments or did he want to but failed?
另一項修訂，我簡單稱為"去殖民化"的修訂。
There is another amendment which I will simply call a decolonization amendment
很奇怪，其實，"英語聖公會"在1998年已經改稱"香港聖公會"。
In fact Church of England was already renamed as Hong Kong Sheng Kung Hui in 1998 and that is very strange
"去殖民化"的修訂中，修改標誌和徽章最重要，修改區旗和區徽更是必定要做，"皇家香港警察"也改名，而且是回歸當晚便改；"港督府"改為"禮賓府"，但是，有些人則矯枉過正，指郵筒要遮蓋郵徽；有些人更說女皇頭像的硬幣要收回及停用，需要註銷。
Amendments effecting changes to the regional flag and the regional emblem had to be enacted too . The term the Royal Hong Kong Police was also changed in the same evening when the sovereignty of Hong Kong was resumed; and the former Chinese term for Government House 港督府 was replaced by 禮賓府 . However some people have gone so far as to say that the emblems on old posting boxes have to be covered up; and others have even suggested to retrieve all Queens Head coins and stop and revoke their circulation
但是，我們在法例中，很多富殖民地色彩的用詞，例如"總督會同行政局"、"女皇陛下"，仍然長留在條例內20年，現在當然不會用"女皇陛下"，已改為"中央"；"總督會同行政局"，當然已改為"行政長官會同行政會議"。
Nevertheless many terms with traces of colonialism eg . the Governor in Council and Her Majesty remained in our legislation for as long as 20 years after the resumption of sovereignty . Certainly the term Her Majesty is no longer used; it has been replaced by the Central Peoples Government; and the term the Governor in Council has been replaced by the Chief Executive in Council
如果大家翻閱法例，便會發覺其實很多文字上的修改，都是"去殖民化"或"本地化"。
If Members refer to the legislation they would realize that many amendments to the terms therein have been made for the purpose of decolonization or localization
其實，20年前也可以做，難度是否很高？
In fact they could have been proposed 20 years ago; was it very difficult to do so?
當然，我曾看過一些法例，並想修改一些數字或法例與法例之間用詞上的矛盾，但政府卻不予理會。
Certainly after reading some pieces of legislation I wanted to change some of the numbers and remove the contradiction resulted from using different terms in different pieces of legislation but the Government ignored my requests
審議時間亦不會很長。
It would not take a long time to scrutinize such amendments
當局說教科書要修改，但這些法例及重要的文件卻不修改，請回去檢視各團體以私人法案形式訂立的條例，是否有這些過時的條文？
The authorities say that they have to amend the textbooks but they have failed to amend various pieces of legislation and important documents . I would like to ask Members to review various Ordinances which have been introduced by various groups in the form of private bills and check whether there are any outdated provisions
我覺得這也是議員的基本責任。
I think that is one of the basic duties of Members
當然，如果議員原來已做了很多工作，只是政府"嘆慢板"，不肯處理，說這些用詞不重要、不相關、不影響判案，便不作修改，這樣大家便要指出政府的問題。
Certainly if Members have already made a lot of effort in this regard but the Government will not make any amendment by procrastinating refusing to take any action and saying that the terms are unimportant irrelevant and will not affect any judgment of the court then Members should point out the Governments problem
代理主席，在2018年4月11日的立法會會議上，我以立法會根據《議事規則》第49B條就譴責鄭松泰議員的議案成立的調查委員會主席的身份，向立法會提交了調查委員會的報告並且發言。
Deputy President at the Council meeting on 11 April 2018 I addressed the Council on the Report of the Legislative Council Investigation Committee established under Rule 49B2A of the Rules of Procedure in respect of the motion to censure Dr CHENG Chung - tai in my capacity as Chairman of the Investigation Committee IC
當時，我交代了調查委員會的調查結果，強調調查委員會完全遵守程序公義，根據非常嚴格的標準確立了有關譴責議案對鄭松泰議員作出的兩個指控。
At that meeting I gave an account of the findings of IC and stressed that IC had fully observed procedural justice and substantiated the two allegations made in the censure motion against Dr CHENG Chung - tai according to a most stringent standard
根據《議事規則》第73A條，調查委員會向立法會作出報告後已隨即解散。
In accordance with Rule 73A12 of the Rules of Procedure RoP IC was dissolved upon its submission of the report to the Council
我今天不會重複當天發言的內容，但會表達我個人對譴責議案的看法，並會就着立法會可以如何更有效處理議員的不當行為提出一些建議。
I will not repeat contents of my speech on that day here but I will express my personal views on the censure motion and make suggestions on how best the Legislative Council can handle Members misconduct more effectively
代理主席，立法會議事廳是供議政、論政的莊嚴地方，公眾對立法會議員有很高的期望，議員的行為舉止會成為社會的典範，年青人也容易有樣學樣。
Deputy President the Chamber of the Legislative Council is a solemn venue for policy debates and discussions . The public has high expectations of Legislative Council Members whose behaviour will set an example for society and young people to follow
作為立法會議員，我們應該知道議員必須遵守《基本法》，效忠"一國兩制"。
As Members of the Legislative Council we should understand that we must abide by the Basic Law and swear allegiance to one country two systems
正如法庭已經清楚指出，國旗代表國家，任何正常和合理的人都明白，將國旗或區旗倒插必定會破壞有關旗幟的尊嚴。
As clearly pointed out by the Court any normal and reasonable person would understand that inverting the national flag which represents the country or the regional flag will definitely tarnish the dignity of the flags
在香港，合理的人均會認為倒插國旗是侮辱國家的舉止。
In Hong Kong any reasonable person would consider inverting the national flag an insulting act to the country
而在立法會的議事廳進行會議時公開侮辱國旗，等於公開侮辱自己的國家民族，公眾絕對不能接受此等行為。
Publicly insulting the national flag in the Chamber at a Legislative Council meeting is equivalent to publicly insulting ones country and race which is absolutely inacceptable to the public
2016年10月，立法會出現了宣誓風波，很多新任議員為了"出位"，爭取曝光，慣性地不遵守法律和規矩，連國家民族都拿來公開侮辱，引火自焚，最後導致被"DQ"。
In October 2016 the oath - taking incident happened in the Legislative Council . Newly appointed Members refused to abide by the law and the rules as a matter of routine in order to gain exposure . They went so far as to publicly insult their own country and race
鄭松泰議員當時亦是新任議員，但這不等於可以在議會上為所欲為。
Consequently they set themselves on fire and were disqualified . Being a newly appointed Member at the time did not mean Dr CHENG Chung - tai was free to act however he liked in the Council
事實上，立法會應盡早就這些行為表達立場，除了向公眾有所交代外，更可發放清晰的信息，讓日後有機會進入立法會擔任議員的人士清楚知道，議員在議事廳有所為、有所不能為，不可以為所欲為。
As a matter of fact the Council should state clearly its position in respect of such behaviour so as to give an account to society and send a clear message to potential lawmakers that there are limits to how Members may act in the Chamber and that Members may not act as they like
即使立法會議員受《立法會條例》保障，議員的行為亦不能超出法律的規定，違反《基本法》、違反"一國兩制"。
Although Members are protected by the Legislative Council Ordinance their behaviour must not go beyond the law in violation of the Basic Law and one country two systems
我衷心希望今天反對譴責議案的反對派議員想一想，究竟立法會的議事文化應該是怎樣的呢？
I sincerely hope Members of the opposition camp who oppose the censure motion today will give thoughts to how the parliamentary culture in the Legislative Council should be
立法會或一個議會要有優質的議會文化，並不能單靠一個陣營。
A quality parliamentary culture in the Legislative Council or any parliament depends not on the efforts of only one camp . Many Honourable colleagues like to watch football matches
兩隊的球技都十分精湛，踢至加時再射12碼，不論贏輸也為人稱頌。
Both teams had superb skills and the match went to penalty shoot - out after extra time . Whether victory or defeat both teams deserved praises
我很希望立法會能夠重拾最基本的尊嚴和文化素養。
I very much hope that the Legislative Council will restore its basic dignity and culture
代理主席，在餘下的時間，我想就立法會處理議員不當行為的現行機制提出一些思考。
Deputy President in the remaining time I would like to present some thoughts on the existing mechanisms of the Legislative Council for handling misconduct of Members
根據《議事規則》，現時有3個機制處理議員的不當行為，但有關機制並不全面，各有不足。
According to RoP there are currently three mechanisms for handling misconduct of Members but all three have their respective shortcomings
第一個機制是按照《議事規則》第49B條，即我們現正引用的規則，動議可以導致取消議員資格的議案。
The first mechanism is the moving of a motion which may result in the disqualification of a Member from office under RoP 49B which is the rule under which this motion was moved
《基本法》第七十九條第六項規定，立法會議員如被判犯有刑事罪行及判處監禁一個月以上，可被解除議員職務。又或者根據《基本法》第七十九條第七項，對行為不檢或違反誓言的議員提出譴責議案，即我們今天辯論的相關條文。
Under Article 796 of the Basic Law a Member may be relieved of his duties as a Member of the Legislative Council when he is convicted and sentenced to imprisonment for one month or more for a criminal offence or when he is censured for misbehaviour or breach of oath according to Article 797 which is the article under discussion today
兩個機制有所不同，《基本法》第七十九條第七項未能涵蓋不屬於《基本法》第七十九條第六項所指的刑事行為，亦未能涵蓋嚴重程度不足以構成《基本法》第七十九條第七項所指的行為不檢或違反誓言的不當行為。
The two mechanisms are different in that Article 797 does not cover the criminal offence referred to in Article 796 nor misconduct which is not serious enough to constitute the misbehaviour or breach of oath referred to in Article 797
第二個機制是根據《議事規則》第812條，向過早發表證據的委員會委員提出訓誡或譴責；或根據《議事規則》第85條，對不遵從《議事規則》有關利益申報規定的議員，可藉訓誡或譴責，或暫停其議員職務或權利的議案加以處分。
The second mechanism is that any member of the committee who publishes the evidence taken before a committee prematurely may be admonished or reprimanded under RoP 812; or that any Member who fails to comply with the requirements in RoP in respect of declaration of interest may be admonished reprimanded or suspended by the Council on a motion to that effect under Rule 85 of RoP
至於第三個機制，便是最常見的《議事規則》第452條。立法會主席、全體委員會主席或任何委員會主席可命令行為極不檢點的議員退席，不得繼續參與有關會議。
The third mechanism is the most commonly invoked RoP 452 which provides that the President shall order a Member whose conduct is grossly disorderly to withdraw immediately from the Council for the remainder of that meeting
然而，這個機制只適用於議員在會議上的行為，即由主席裁決某位議員在會議上行為不檢，而懲罰亦只限於有關議員不得繼續參與會議，但並不適用於個別議員以議員身份在會議外作出的不當行為。
However this mechanism is only applicable to Members behaviour at a meeting ruled as grossly disorderly by the President and the penalty is limited to the Members withdrawal from that meeting . It is not applicable to a Members misconduct outside the meeting in his capacity as a Member
根據《議事規則》第731d條，議員個人利益監察委員會可就關乎香港特別行政區立法會議員以其議員身份所作行為的操守標準事宜訂定勸諭性質的指引，訂明議員應確保其行為一定不會令立法會的聲譽受損......
According to RoP 731d the Committee on Members Interests may issue advisory guidelines on matters of ethics in relation to the conduct of Members of the Legislative Council of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region in their capacity as such to ensure that Members conduct must not be such as to bring discredit upon the Legislative Council
梁議員，我要提醒你，就《議事規則》如何妥善處理議員行為不檢一事，我相信議員稍後可在其他場合進行辯論。
Dr LEUNG I remind you that Members may debate how RoP can properly handle misconduct of Members on other occasions
本會現時處理的是，根據《議事規則》第49B條動議譴責鄭松泰議員的議案。
This Council is now dealing with the motion moved under RoP 49B1A to censure Dr CHENG Chung - tai
是否普通的行為不檢？
Was it an action of general disorderly conduct?
其實，調查委員會曾反覆討論這個問題，毫無懸念地一致建議作出譴責。
In fact repeated discussions have been made by IC and members unanimously recommended censure without any doubt
立法會不應該容許這種行為，應該很清楚地支持譴責，責無旁貸。
The Legislative Council should not condone this kind of behaviour and therefore is duty - bound to support the censure motion
代理主席，我謹此陳辭，支持譴責議案。
With these remarks Deputy President I support the censure motion
市民可以看到，地產商對物業的囤積和壟斷情況，政府照單全收，所以這次寬減差餉才會引爆新一輪關於政府是否"還富於富"的討論，而這項討論的範圍一定不限於今次寬減差餉的方式會否令人有周浩鼎議員剛才所說的感覺。
That is why the rates concession measure has triggered a new round of discussions about whether the Government is returning wealth to the rich . The scope of the discussion should definitely not be limited to whether the present arrangement for the provision of rates concession will give people the impression as depicted by Mr Holden CHOW just now
其實，全香港都是"還富於富"的，最核心的問題是......
In fact the whole territory is returning wealth to the rich and the most important problem is I received a group of students yesterday and a student asked me a question about the Inland Revenue Amendment Bill 2018 we debated yesterday . He asked if it was desirable to increase the number of tax bands from four to five so as to reduce the tax burden of wage earners
但是，說到"還富於富"或撥亂反正，問題確實較我們現時討論的事情更為結構性。
Nevertheless when it comes to returning wealth to the rich or setting things right there is actually a structural problem that is more serious than the problem that we are now discussing
我渴求香港有租務管制，限制租金升幅。
I long for the implementation of rent control in Hong Kong to restrain the increase in rent
小市民、蟻民、住宅租客和商鋪租戶其實是"肉隨砧板上"，寬減差餉完全沒有令租客得以解決最核心的問題。
The general public the powerless mass the tenants of residential properties and shops have actually become meat on the chopping board . The rates concession measure cannot help tenants solve the most important problem
當然，歸根究底，正如我剛才提及，現時財富不均的整體狀況、政府繼續實行高地價政策、租客沒有租務管制的租住權保障等問題，其實更值得我們探討。
In the final analysis as I have just mentioned issues such as uneven distribution of wealth the Governments continuous implementation of the high land price policy and the lack of protection for the tenants tenure rights in the absence of rent control are more worthy of our discussion
主席，我發言支持張超雄議員提出的多項修正案。
Chairman I speak to support Dr Fernando CHEUNGs amendments
明顯地，這3組修正案最終會被否決，因為這是政治現實，但局長為何明知這個政治現實仍要"出口術"？
While apparently these three groups of amendments will eventually be voted down due to political reality why did the Secretary being well aware of this political reality still make this verbal coercion?
如果修正案不合理，是周浩鼎議員及鍾國斌議員口中的毒蛇猛獸，足以令商家不做生意、不作投資，局長根本不用出言威脅，因為我們自會大罵張超雄議員。
If Dr Fernando CHEUNGs amendments were so unreasonable and were scourges as described by Mr Holden CHOW and Mr CHUNG Kwok - pan to deter business operation and investment the Secretary actually did not need to make any verbal coercion since we would naturally berate Dr Fernando CHEUNG
所以，局長的小動作說明了香港的一些狀況。
The manoeuver of the Secretary well illustrates the situation in Hong Kong
我記得剛才張超雄議員也提過，"打工仔"有很多種，有人月薪10萬元，有人月薪5萬元，有人月薪3萬元。
I recall that Dr Fernando CHEUNG said just now that there were different types of wage earners some making 100,000 a month some 50,000 or 30,000
討論這個問題時，很多議員同事又會代入中小企的角度思考。
Many Honourable colleagues will again put themselves in the shoes of SMEs when discussing this issue
所以，先要保護頭目，從而保護整個工業運動。
Therefore we must first protect the leaders and then protect the whole labour movement
如無相匹配的額外賠償，即按照僱員月薪乘以某個倍數，對僱主根本不構成壓力，那就果真變成鍾國斌議員所說的"花錢解決問題"，72,500元的上限似是定額罰款。
If the further compensation is not proportionate ie . calculated by multiplying the monthly wage of the employee by a specified multiplier it will not be able to exert pressure on employers . By then the situation will become what Mr CHUNG Kwok - pan has depicted ie
這組修正案並無阻止僱主另聘員工，所以不會如同鍾國斌議員所說，僱主有6個月或9個月不知道如何營運的情況。
As this group of amendments does not prohibit the employer from engaging a replacement the scenario described by Mr CHUNG Kwok - pan will not happen that is employers may have great difficulties in running his business for a period of six to nine months
最後，張超雄議員的第三組修正案雖然看似是技術性修訂，但其實相當關鍵，因為政府原本的《條例草案》是想將修訂額外賠償額的權力單單交給政府當局。
Lastly while the third group of amendment proposed by Dr Fernando CHEUNG seems technical in nature it is indeed crucial given that the original Bill introduced by the Government seeks to confer the power of revising the amount of further compensation solely to the Administration
主席，從我剛才簡單的發言可見，張超雄議員其實是在做很多建制派同事想做的工作，即求同存異，尋找一個較合理的平衡點。
Chairman it can be seen from my brief speech that Dr Fernando CHEUNG is actually doing something that many pro - establishment Members would like to do ie . to strike a reasonable balance by seeking common ground while accommodating differences
主席，剛才聽了李慧琼議員的一席話，她真的"嚇死人無命賠"，有沒有搞錯？
President just now I heard the speech of Ms Starry LEE . How scary it was! . She was simply talking nonsense
我們現在討論的是，鄭松泰議員倒插國旗的行為要不得，須要譴責。
What was wrong with her? . What we are discussing now is Dr CHENG Chung - tais act of inverting the national flag which is unacceptable and warrants censure . I agree that he should be censured
她指鄭松泰議員宣誓"加料"要不得，但她又奈得香港政府的律政司甚麼何？
She said that it was unacceptable that Dr CHENG Chung - tai had made additions in taking his oath . With the Department of Justice DoJ doing nothing what can she do about it?
現在是民建聯治港嗎？
Is DAB ruling Hong Kong now?
是民建聯一黨專政嗎？
Are we under the one - party dictatorship of the DAB?
但當她說不過別人時，便說他何只今天，他上星期某一天也是這樣，去年某一天亦如是，只差在沒說聽聞鄭松泰議員10歲時好似、可能偷了同學一枝筆，證明他誠信有問題。
When she could not win the argument she said that not only today he was like that on a certain day last week he was like that on a certain day last year . She stopped short of saying that she had heard that Dr CHENG Chung - tai seemed to have and might probably have stolen a pen from his classmate when he was 10 years old and that served as evidence that his integrity was questionable
有人對我說不用保護鄭松泰議員，因為他不屬民主派。
Someone told me it was not necessary for me to protect Dr CHENG Chung - tai as he was not a member of the pro - democracy camp
事實上，鄭松泰議員並無加入立法會的民主派會議，他為何不加入呢？
In fact Dr CHENG Chung - tai has never joined any meeting of the pro - democracy camp . Why has he not joined the meeting?
這個李慧琼議員真的不知所謂。
This Starry LEE is really ridiculous
大家要理解，我們討論民主或自稱民主派，"民主"這兩個字無人可以壟斷，是屬於任何人的嗎？
Let us have some understanding about this―we hold discussions on democracy or call ourselves members of the pro - democracy camp―no one can monopolize the word democracy . Does it belong to anyone?
他自成一派，民主派應該由得他。
He is distinct and unique . The pro - democracy camp should leave him alone
如果人人都一樣，那便是一黨專政了，全部都是紅色。
If everyone holds the same view that will be under one - party dictatorship . Everything is in the colour of red
我們不搞朋黨主義，因為真正的公道精神並非騎牆派，裝模作樣地扮作不偏不倚，而是真正看到一件事的是與非、黑與白、光與影，自己判斷事情達到甚麼程度和甚麼地步。
We do not practise cronyism . Because a person with the genuine spirit of fairness is not a fence - sitter who takes on the appearance of being impartial; instead he is really capable of distinguishing between the right and wrong black and white light and shadow of a matter making his own judgment and determining to what extent and how far the matter has developed
我何時加入過民主黨？
When have I joined the Democratic Party?
很多人對真正的公道精神有所誤解，以為是指公平和公道。
Many people misunderstand the meaning of the genuine spirit of fairness . They believe it refers to equality and equity . That is not correct
事發於前年10月，那時我剛巧返回會議廳，看見他這樣做，然後看到蔣麗芸議員嚴詞斥責他。
The incident happened in October two years ago . At that time I happened to have just returned to the Chamber and saw him doing that . And then I saw Dr CHIANG Lai - wan sternly reproach him
我不太認同法庭的裁決，但我尊重法庭的結論，事情應就此完結。
I do not quite agree with the verdict handed down by the Court but I respect the conclusion of the Court . The matter should come to an end
我剛才聽畢李慧琼議員的發言，不論是看着她或聽着她說話，覺得不堪入目之餘，還感到神傷。
Just now after I had heard the speech of Ms Starry LEE no matter whether I was looking at her or listening to her I did not only find her detestable I was also saddened
然而，他這樣說並不符合《基本法》。
His remark did not comply with the Basic Law
我記得大約在2000年，如果沒有記錯，程介南自行辭職。
I remember it was in 2000―if I have not got it wrong―that Gary CHENG resigned from office of his own accord
再之前應該是詹培忠，他被判入獄大約3年。
And before that it was CHIM Pui - chung who was sentenced to imprisonment for about three years
程介南當年當選後，他知道有問題便立即辭職，否則選民便要等待4年。
By the time Gary CHENG was elected he knew that there would be problems so he resigned immediately . Otherwise electors would have to wait for four years
如果民主派有人這樣做，對我而言是罪加一等，不過應該不可能，因為我們是如此黑白和壁壘分明。
To me if someone from the pro - democracy camp does something like this it makes his offence even more serious . However it is impossible for us to do that because we distinctly differ from each other like the colours black and white and our stances are distinctly different
但是，他們又不是隨口亂說，我剛才看見李慧琼議員有一疊講稿在面前，她照講稿讀出，鼻尖幾乎貼着講稿，亦有道具，是有備而來的。
However they are not saying whatever that comes to their mind . Just now I saw a pile of scripts in front of Ms Starry LEE . She was reading from the scripts with her nose almost touching them
修正案看似是訴說《條例草案》對僱員不近人情，最終也只不過是圍繞一個"錢"字。
The amendments seem to accuse the Bill of being too mean to employees yet it all boils down to the question of money
若然如此，張議員提出這項修正案根本是自打嘴巴。
If this is the case the amendments proposed by Dr CHEUNG would be a slap on his face
主席，簡單而言，我謹此陳辭，反對這兩組修正案。
Chairman simply put with these remarks I oppose the two groups of amendments
我們是否尊重勞顧會？
Do we respect LAB?
對於勞顧會洽談所得的結果，我們應採取何種態度和立場？
What kind of attitude and stance should we adopt towards the discussion outcomes of LAB?
政府的立場又是甚麼？
What is the position of the Government?