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主席，局長可否代表政府告訴香港市民和各位在座議員，究竟疫苗接種率要達到多少百分比，才能達致政府所謂的免疫屏障、群體免疫和通關條件？
President can the Secretary on behalf of the Government tell the people of Hong Kong and Members here what percentage of vaccination has to be achieved before the conditions for the Governments so - called immunity barrier herd immunity and the free flow of people can be met?
關於疫苗接種率，大家知道我們較早前展開了一系列的活動，努力地增加我們的疫苗接種率；一方面，這是希望大家都可以保護自己。
Regarding the vaccination rate as you know we have launched a series of activities earlier to increase our vaccination rate . On the one hand it is our hope that people can protect themselves
對於疫苗接種，在老人家方面，我想有關接種率是偏低的，我們看看70至79歲人士的接種率，只是超過約三成；如果是80歲以上，其實接種率都只是一成多。
Regarding vaccination I think the vaccination rate among the elderly is on the low side . We can see that the vaccination rate among people aged 70 to 79 is just over 30 % while the vaccination rate among those over 80 years old is actually just over 10 %
如果我們看看其他年齡層的接種率，其實都有五成至七成。
As regards other age groups the vaccination rates actually range from 50 % to 70 %
所以，在這個大前提下，我們會繼續努力。
Thus under this premise we will continue to put in efforts
最近特區政府與印度尼西亞和菲律賓政府簽訂了雙邊的疫苗紀錄認可協議，令這兩個國家的外傭可以根據協議的條件來香港工作。
The SAR Government has recently signed bilateral vaccination record recognition agreements with the Governments of Indonesia and the Philippines allowing foreign domestic helpers from these two countries to come and work in Hong Kong under the terms of the agreements
根據與印尼和菲律賓的安排，政府會否考慮將這做法延伸到其他國家或地區的香港居民？
Based on the arrangements with Indonesia and the Philippines will the Government consider extending this practice to the Hong Kong residents in other countries or regions?
即是政府與其他疫苗紀錄暫不被承認的國家簽訂雙邊協議，令滯留在海外的香港居民有機會回香港。
That is the Government would sign bilateral agreements with other countries whose vaccination records are not yet recognized so that those Hong Kong residents who are stranded overseas would have the opportunity to return to Hong Kong
主席，我可以簡單補充。
President I can briefly add some information
多謝姚思榮議員的補充質詢。
I thank Mr YIU Si - wing for his supplementary question
我剛才已提到，我們在外防輸入的政策，其實現在分為A、B、C的風險組別。
As I mentioned earlier in terms of our policy on guarding against the importation of cases places are categorized into risk groups A B and C At present for people from Group A specified places which is the highest risk group our current requirements are firstly they must be Hong Kong residents; and secondly they must have received the vaccination before they can come to Hong Kong
首先，正如姚議員所說，我們與菲律賓和印尼已經作出了安排；接着跟其他東盟國家，包括泰國和馬來西亞等，其實我們也會因應情況處理。
First of all as Mr YIU said we have already made arrangements with the Philippines and Indonesia . In fact we will then deal with other ASEAN countries including Thailand and Malaysia as appropriate
主席，除了Delta變種病毒，近期在南非發現的超級變種病毒"C.1.2"也引起科學家的高度關注。
President apart from the Delta mutant strain the recently discovered super mutant strain C1.2 in South Africa has also aroused great concern among scientists
疫苗是控制疫情和恢復經濟的基礎，政府也指出，會以全民接種為目標，但現時香港面對兩個大難題，第一，正如局長剛才也提到，70歲以上長者的接種率大為落後，只有大約30%。
Vaccine is the basis for controlling the epidemic and restoring the economy . The Government has also pointed out that it will aim at universal vaccination but Hong Kong is now facing two major problems . First as the Secretary mentioned earlier the vaccination rate of elderly people aged 70 or above is lagging far behind with only about 30 %
第二，無論接種哪一種疫苗，市民的保護率也會隨着時間而逐漸下降。
Second regardless of the types of vaccines the protection rate of the public will gradually decline over time
雖然政府近日推出不少便利措施，但仍然未能大幅提升長者的接種率。
Although the Government has recently introduced a number of facilitation measures it has not been able to significantly increase the vaccination rate of the elderly
局長剛才表示會繼續努力，但其實已努力了頗長時間，暫時仍未見成效。
The Secretary said just now that he would continue to work hard but in fact he has been working hard for quite a long time but no remarkable effect has so far been achieved
局長會否考慮一些更進取的措施，可以跟我們在這裏分享呢？
Will the Secretary consider some more aggressive measures that he can share with us here?
此外，有些地方已開始接種第三劑疫苗，政府可否盡快告訴市民，哪些人合適，以及何時可以接種第三劑疫苗呢？
In addition some places have started to administer the third dose of vaccine . Can the Government tell the public as soon as possible who are suitable and when they can receive the third dose of vaccine?
第一，關於長者接種疫苗的情況，我們較早前已從幾方面着手：第一，是提供一些誘因；第二，是提供便利；第三，是盡量解答他們 的疑難。
Firstly regarding the vaccination of the elderly we have already started to work on several aspects earlier First to provide some incentives; second to provide convenience; and third to answer their questions as much as possible
現時這3方面的工作，其實已在極速進行中，我們也看到接種率是有上升的。
The work in these three areas is already in progress at great speed and we can see that the vaccination rate is increasing
現時最主要的一群是80歲以上，例如可能居住於老人院的長者，我們也要繼續做工作。
At present the most significant group of people that we are working on are the elderly over 80 years old such as those who may be living in elderly homes and we need to continue to put in more efforts
第二，關於第三劑，其實我們衞生署轄下的聯合科學委員會已經商討了一次，接着9月也會因應最新的數據，就注射第三劑疫苗進行討論，之後如果有新消息，一定會向大家公布。
Secondly regarding the third dose of vaccine the Joint Scientific Committee under the Department of Health has already discussed this issue once and we will have another discussion in September about administering the third dose of vaccine taking into account the latest data . If there is any new information in the future we will definitely make an announcement to the public
政府理解這一方面的關注，也一直留意，除了世界各地的數據，本港也有些研究正在進行。
The Government understands this concern and has been paying attention to the situation . In addition to data from around the world there are also some studies being conducted in Hong Kong
所以，我們會繼續關注這件事，而且一旦有最新消息，便會讓大家知道。
Therefore we will continue to follow this matter closely and will let people know the latest information as soon as it becomes available
"條文已清楚訂明有關規則，主席須根據《議事規則》行事。
The subrule has been clearly spelt out and the President must therefore act in accordance with RoP
"健哥"今次引用《議事規則》第401條，就察悉附屬法例的議案動議中止待續議案，再一次坦率說出背後的理由。
This time Brother Kin once again candidly stated why he invoked Rule 401 of the Rules of Procedure RoP to move an adjournment motion in relation to the take - note motion on subsidiary legislation
這是一個問題。
This is a question
即使涂謹申議員的發言不清楚，加上林卓廷也說不清楚，他可以聽郭榮鏗議員和陳淑莊議員等人發言，他們伶牙俐齒，對嗎？
Even if Mr James TO and LAM Cheuk - ting failed to convey their ideas clearly Mr WONG could listened to eloquent Members like Mr Dennis KWOK and Ms Tanya CHAN right?
在座一眾建制派議員都知道，以民主派議員來說，我參與"拉布"的次數相對較少，民主黨多年來參與"拉布"的次數亦不多。
All pro - establishment Members present should know that comparatively speaking I am less active than other pro - democracy Members in filibustering . Over the years the Democratic Party has also been inactive in joining the filibusters
不過，近期我們較多參與。
We however have recently participated in filibustering more frequently
主席和一眾同事都知道，議會目前處於不正常狀態中的極不正常狀態。
As known to the President and all Honourable colleagues the Council is now in an extremely abnormal state . It is beyond abnormal
我說"不正常狀態"，因為立法會從未正常過。
I used the words abnormal state because the Legislative Council has never been normal
在立法會70名議員中，35名議員來自功能界別，由不民主的選舉制度產生，根本不能夠完全反映民意。
Among the 70 Members of the Legislative Council 35 of them are returned from the functional constituencies through undemocratic elections . They simply cannot fully reflect public opinion
縱使如此，議會過往仍有某種平衡，建制派和民主派仍有不會逾越的界線，互相保留幾分尊重和理解。
Despite this the Council used to have some kind of balance . There was a line that neither the pro - establishment camp nor the pro - democracy camp would cross . The two camps had certain respect and understanding for each other
直至"DQ"案後，有6名議員被取消資格，建制派便認為這是黃金機會，必須把握良機大幅修訂《議事規則》，封殺所謂的"拉布"惡行。
Yet after the DQ case in which six Members were disqualified Members from the pro - establishment camp hold that it is the golden chance for them to make substantial amendments to RoP in order to ban the so - called evil filibustering . Mr Dennis KWOK has made a good point earlier
第二，議會仍有很多程序可供議員"拉布"。
Second there are still many procedures on which Members can filibuster
當建制派指要為打擊"拉布"而修訂《議事規則》，我已多次質疑，以提交呈請書的方式成立專責委員會與"拉布"有何關連。
When the pro - establishment camp claims that amending RoP is to counter filibustering I have time and again queried the relationship between filibustering and forming a select committee by way of presentation of petitions
專責委員會旨在調查涉及重大公眾利益的事件，例如梁振英的UGL案件。
The purpose of forming select committees is to inquire into incidents involving significant public interests such as the UGL case which involves LEUNG Chun - ying
如果沒有這類專責委員會，我們怎會知道周浩鼎議員原來與梁振英"打龍通"。
If such select committees had not been formed how could we have known about the collusion between Mr Holden CHOW and LEUNG Chun - ying?
建制派連這項與"拉布"風馬牛不相及的程序也要封殺，打擊"拉布"不是藉口又是甚麼？
The pro - establishment camp is seeking to disallow such a procedure which is completely unrelated to filibustering . If countering filibustering is not an excuse what is?
這根本是建制派赤裸裸打壓民主派議事空間的藉口，我們怎能接受？
It is simply an excuse adopted by the pro - establishment camp to blatantly narrow the room for debate of the pro - democracy camp . How can we accept it?
建制派這種做法，迫使我參與種種"拉布"程序。
Owing to this act of the pro - establishment camp I am forced to participate in filibustering
我是被迫參與的，若不參與，我無法交代。
I am forced to do so; otherwise I cannot justify myself
主席，我奉勸建制派議員，現在議會的結越打越緊。
President let me advise pro - establishment Members given that the present knot in the Council is getting tighter and tighter do not think that you can untie the knot by burning it
如果大家是君子，便應留待補選後再去處理議會的種種爭議。
If we are upright we should deal with the various disputes in the Council after the by - elections
民主派現正處於特殊時期，幾位同事因為人大釋法而被褫奪議席，建制派乘人之危修訂《議事規則》，我們豈可不發聲？
The pro - democracy camp is now at a critical stage with a number of Honourable colleagues being stripped of their seats after the interpretation of the Basic Law by the National Peoples Congress . How can we not speak up when the pro - establishment camp take this advantage to amend RoP?
如果我們不發聲，監察和制衡政府的僅有力量日後亦會喪失。
If we do not speak up we will lose the last bit of power for monitoring and checking the Government
我亦借此機會回應郭榮鏗議員。
Moreover I would like to take this opportunity to respond to Mr Dennis KWOK
郭榮鏗議員是我最尊敬的民主派議員之一。
Mr Dennis KWOK is one of the pro - democracy Members whom I greatly respect
回顧中國共產黨的歷史，中國共產黨以鬥爭為綱，對付其階級敵人毫不手軟。
Looking back at the history of the Communist Party of China CPC we will know that CPC takes class struggle as the framework and will never be kind to its class enemies
這套鬥爭意識，在回歸後不斷滲入香港各個領域，尤其是政治領域。
After the handover this idea of struggle has penetrated into different arenas of Hong Kong particularly the political arena
不過，我相信郭榮鏗議員的智慧較我高超，他也自知行不通，只是他為人君子，希望盡一分力量提出善意信息，讓建制派趁機考慮，香港立法會目前的形勢若長此下去，究竟是好事還是壞事。
I however trust that Mr Dennis KWOKs political wisdom is higher than mine . He knows that it is futile to do so yet being upright he wishes to make an effort by giving out a goodwill message thereby giving the pro - establishment camp a chance to consider whether it is good or bad for the Legislative Council of Hong Kong to be in such a state for long
不過，我認為這項條例有其重要性。
I recognize its importance
我過往處理很多地區上的個案，市民與政府或公營機構之間的許多爭議，不一定要循法律渠道解決。
In the previous cases which I handled at district level many disputes between members of the public and the Government or public organizations did not necessarily have to be resolved by legal means
我希望在研究這項條例的相關建議後，才考慮是否發言。
I intend to first study the relevant proposals concerning this Ordinance before deciding whether I would speak on it
不過，黃國健議員提出中止待續議案，其實會令我失去發言的機會，這種做法可能會令其他有意發言的議員也無法發言。
Unfortunately Mr WONG Kwok - kin moved an adjournment motion depriving me of the chance to speak . He may also bar other Members who wish to speak from speaking
此例一開，日後其他議員也可以此方式剝奪議員應有的發言權，這是很壞的先例。
If this case sets a precedent other Members may in future do the same to deprive the due right of Members to speak . It will be a very bad precedent
主席，最後一點。
President I have come to my last point
第一，普世價值不要講；第二，新聞自由不要講；第三，公民社會不要講；第四，公民權利不要講；第五，中國共產黨的歷史錯誤不要講；第六，權貴資產階級不要講；及第七，司法獨立不要講。
First universal values; second press freedom; third civil society; fourth civic rights; fifth historical mistakes of CPC; sixth the privileged capitalist class; and seventh judicial independence
黃國健議員，我建議你上書中共中央，加上第八點，就是"建制派不中聽的言論不要講"。
Mr WONG Kwok - kin I suggest you write to the Central Committee of CPC to add point number eight which will be anything unpleasant to the ears of the pro - establishment camp
立法會以後凡有建制派、工聯會和黃國健議員不中聽的言論，均不要講。
In future Members of the Legislative Council should not make any remarks unpleasant to the ears of the pro - establishment camp FTU and Mr WONG Kwok - kin
由於黃國健議員提出了中止待續的議案，本會現在先處理這項議案。
Since Mr WONG Kwok - kin proposed an adjournment motion this Council will now deal with the adjournment motion first
在我就這項中止待續議案提出待議議題前，我想提醒議員，根據《議事規則》第402及3條，該項議案如獲得通過，整項"察悉議案"的辯論即告中止待續，而這項"察悉議案"的主旨是，察悉內務委 員會第3/17-18號報告內的13項附屬法例，當中包括由小組委員會審議的4項附屬法例，涉及因應港珠澳大橋而劃出羈留地點及宣布禁區等事宜；另外9項沒有小組委員會審議的附屬法例，則涉及不同範疇的事宜。
Before I propose the question on the adjournment motion I wish to remind Members that according to Rule 402 and 3 of the Rules of Procedure RoP if the motion that the debate be now adjourned has been agreed to the debate on the question shall stand adjourned . The motion in question seeks to take note of Report No . 317 - 18 of the House Committee in relation to 13 items of subsidiary legislation and instruments including 4 items of subsidiary legislation deliberated by the relevant subcommittees and matters relating to the announcement of the delineation of Places of Detention and Closed Area of the Hong Kong - Zhuhai - Macao Bridge; and 9 items of subsidiary legislation relating to matters in different areas which have not been scrutinized by a subcommittee
現在議員提出的中止待續議案，議題其實很窄，就是：是否支持將察悉13項附屬法例的議案的辯論中止待續。
The scope of the adjournment motion is actually quite narrow . That is whether or not this Council should adjourn the debate of the motion that this Council takes note of 13 items of subsidiary legislation
議員不應提出與議題無關的事宜，亦不應利用這項辯論，討論該13項附屬法例的具體內容。
Members should not raise issues irrelevant to the topic and should not make use of this debate to discuss the specific contents of the 13 items of subsidiary legislation
《議事規則》第411條訂明，議員不得提出與議題無關的事宜。
RoP 411 stipulates that Members shall not introduce matter irrelevant to that subject
第451條亦訂明，議員不得不斷提出無關的事宜或冗贅煩厭地重提本身或其他議員的論點。
RoP 451 also stipulates that Members shall not persist in irrelevance or tedious repetition of their own or other Members arguments in the debate
若我認為議員違反有關規定，我會嚴格執行《議事規則》，停止有關議員發言。
If I consider that a Member has violated the relevant stipulations I will strictly enforce the Rules of Procedure by directing him to discontinue his speech
請議員轉往講稿第I部第7頁。
Will Members please turn to Page 7 of Part I of the Script
本會現在處理根據《議事規則》第49E2條動議的第二項議案： 察悉提交本會省覽的內務委員會第5/17-18號報告內的《〈2017年實習律師規則〉公告》。
This Council now deals with the second motion under Rule 49E2 of the Rules of Procedure To take note of the Trainee Solicitors Amendment Rules 2017 Commencement Notice which is included in Report No . 517 - 18 of the House Committee laid on the Table of this Council
而我動用《議事規則》第401條則是希望大家多發言，希望藉檢討費用上調及法援和當值律師服務，能有更大力量，令政府進行改革。
On the contrary my intention to invoke RoP 401 is to encourage Members to speak more on the upward adjustment of the legal aid fees as well as the legal aid services and the Duty Lawyer Service in the hope that the review could gather strength to push the Government for reform
你們這些民選議員，在議事廳內不要發言。
The elected Members should say nothing inside the Chamber
如果是大家已發言一段時間，即大家已很認真地、很嚴肅地表達過意見，才把議案中止，這是另一回事。
If such an adjournment debate comes after a long debate on the subject matter when Members have already seriously and solemnly expressed their views it will be another thing
每一位議員背後都有一支團隊，要多謝每一位議員的議員助理。
Every Member is backed by a working team . I would like to thank all personal assistants of Members
議員助理所做的工作是甚麼，就是議員在議事廳內就不同議題發言時，替議員準備很多不同的資料。
What are their duties? . They prepare information for Members to deliver their speeches on various issues in the Chamber . The personal assistants work is way more than the casual printing out of information
亦希望推動政府作出檢討，越做越好。
They also ponder how to clearly convey the messages in the 15 - minutes speeches so as to push the Government for review and for making things better
港珠澳大橋這項花了香港納稅人以億元計金錢的"大白象"工程，更要不斷超支。
The HZMB project a big elephant work which has already cost the Hong Kong taxpayers billions of dollars has continued to record cost overruns
這些如此重要的議案，在我們仍可就此表達我們的聲音時，黃國健議員便不准我們發言。
When we are still able to express our views on this important issue Mr WONG Kwok - kin however stops us from doing so
我可裁定自己離題。
We now I can rule that I have digressed from the subject
現在大家要說的是究竟是否支持中止待續，我當然是不支持，因為我們要表達重要的信息。
Now we have to say whether we support this adjournment motion . I will definitely not support the motion as I am keen to convey important messages through a debate
在這期間，那個成為禁區的位置會衍生甚麼問題？
What problems will arise from the designation of the closed area?
有的，在過去各口岸出現的問題就是禁止採訪、新聞自由，2009年和2017年均出現兩次在羅湖口岸禁止可能示威活動。
The answer is yes . We have faced the press ban and the threat to press freedom in various port areas . In 2009 and 2017 there were two occasions of the banning of possible public demonstrations in the Lo Wu boundary control point
在動用第401條之際，其實我們正在向政府施壓。
When I invoked RoP 401 I was actually putting pressure on the Government
這可能令電視機旁的朋友不明白。
People watching the television may find this argument confusing
但最簡單的解釋是，在外國一場大山火，怎樣救火呢？
The simplest example is how an overseas country fights against a large wildfire?
對，這是其中一個方法，但在外國如要處理山火，是利用火來救火，怎樣做呢？
Yes this is one of the firefighting tactics . But in overseas countries they will use fire to fight fire . How?
由一隊人衝入大型火場中把草燒掉，劃出一條防火帶。
A crew of firefighters will rush into the scene to set fire on the grass to create a containment line
我以此例子說明"以火救火"。
This is an example of using fire to fight fire
同樣道理，《議事規則》賦予議員同事在必須時使用該規則，其實我們並非要在此吵架，而在我們的討論中，確實覺得現時的法援制度不足，所以我們才會使用第401條這項中止待續議案，向政府施壓。
Equally RoP confers on Members the power to invoke this rule when necessary . The aim is not for us to pick quarrels . In the course of the legal aid fee discussion we have indeed found some deficiencies in the current legal aid system
他的動機其實非常清晰，他說得很明白，這是大家也知道。
His motive is clear enough and he has also clearly explained the justifications . We all understand his motivation
大家也知道，近期立法會確實處於風暴前夕，因為在修訂《議事規則》前，民主派議員要努力地抵擋。
As we all know the Legislative Council is really on eve of a violent thunderstorm . The democratic Members have to try their best to resist the proposed RoP amendments
我自己在本年也有一項議案，就是"動物保護法"，當時也有很好的討論，最終更獲得一致通過。
I have moved a motion on Safeguarding animal rights this year . The motion was passed unanimously after an excellent discussion
但問題是我們現在有6個人，有6個民主派的人不在議會。
The problem is the democratic camp now has six members leaving this Council . The pro - establishment camp will thus have enough votes and will win if the RoP amendments are put into vote
即使不可以猜測動機，但客觀事實是，政府可以再次不用應付議員，可以很舒服地過關。
If the motive can we cannot speculate on the motive but the objective fact is that the Government will once again not need to deal with Members . It can have its job done comfortably
港珠澳大橋項目一再超支，正耗用政府龐大的公帑，當中牽涉很多我們爭取政府披露的資料和數字。
The HZMB project has repeatedly recorded cost overruns and is a drain on the public coffer . We have long strived for the Governments disclosure of the information and figures about HZMB
簡單而言，如果政府有議案提交立法會會議，議會同事是不應放過任何的追問機會，要求政府披露更多的數字和資料，否則我們只能推測。
Hence we should not miss any opportunities to pursue the matter whenever the Government submits relevant motions to the Legislative Council . Otherwise we can only keep guessing
我們追問了很久，卻仍不知道究竟港珠澳大橋的超支金額是多少。
We have sought the relevant information for a long time but now we are still uncertain about the cost overrun figure
因此，我們可見，大橋車流量會較2008年完成的可行性研究報告的預測為低。
We can thus foresee a lower - than - expected traffic flow at HZMB when compared with the 2008 figure under the Feasibility Study
所以，現在是一個追問的好機會。
Hence this is a good chance to pursue the issue
誰連民選議員應在議會內為市民發聲的最基本天職也剝奪了？
Who has deprived Members of their right to speak for the public a vocation of Members?
有關該系統在港珠澳大橋通車後的資料？
For example in respect of the introduction of the Road Cargo System to HZMB they may ask about its operation as well as the information about the System after the commissioning of HZMB
主席，各位同事早晨。
President and Honourable Members good morning
首先，我很感激就這項中止待續議案發言的議員。
To begin with I wish to say that I am grateful to those Members who spoke on this adjournment motion
事實上，這次亦都達到其中一個目的，就是在過去數小時，大家都很認真地指出，只透過每兩年一度隨着消費物價指數進行的改革，根本不是改革，只是籠統的檢討。
Actually we are also able to achieve one of the objectives this time around . What I mean is that over the past few hours Members pointed out seriously that the biennial reform on the sole basis of the Consumer Price Index CPI was utterly no reform as such and it was rather a general review
於是，大家亦提出很好的問題，譬如有人問，一項簡單的中止待續議案，能否帶出這個效果，能夠真正帶來改革呢？
Therefore Members asked some very good questions . For instance some Members questioned whether a simple adjournment motion could attain the effect of bringing forth genuine reform
當然，我不會妄想以一項中止待續議案便能夠令政府作出大幅度的改動。
Of course I will not hold the unrealistic thought that an adjournment motion can induce the Government to introduce drastic changes
需求這麼大，我們未必知道，在這20,000多名市民中，是否有些因為當值律師的服務參差，而令他們無法獲得應有的法律保障呢？
We may not realize that the demand was this keen . Did any one of these 20 000 or so people fail to receive due protection in law due to the varying quality of duty lawyer services?
也許有人會問，這件事與今天我們處理這項根據丙類消費物價指數調升4%收費的辯論是否有關？
Perhaps some may ask Is this relevant to our debate on the 4 % upward fee adjustment based on CPIC today?
1992年10月，財務委員會決定了他們每兩年可按消費物價指數檢討收費的機制。
In October 1992 the Finance Committee decided that they might set up a mechanism for biennial fee review based on CPI
如果你有好朋友做律師能夠提供法律意見當然很好。
It is certainly good if you have a lawyer friend who is able to offer some legal advice
但是，很多時候我們都要從零開始。
But very often we have to start from zero
如果一個人被扣押，又或他處於灰色地帶，香港現時的做法是怎樣呢？
At present what will Hong Kong do to help a person under detention or caught in grey areas?
在我最初發言時我提出問題，當然，大家也知道......
I pointed out the problem at the beginning of my speech . Of course as Members know
主席，雖然我們只要多忍受大約8分鐘便能度過這個階段，但是，事實上，現時林卓廷議員......
President while we only have to tolerate the Members speech for around eight more minutes before we can get through this stage Mr LAM Cheuk - tings present speech actually
絕對明白，我是說出理據來支持為何我要提出中止待續議案，請准許我繼續發言。
I definitely understand your point . I am now advancing my grounds for supporting my moving of this adjournment motion . Please allow me to continue with my speech
可以，但最強而有力的莫過於兩年一次回來，最低限度在立法會大會這個公開的場合，政府需要回應不少同事或我們這些親身經歷、幫助過不同的人，在遇到法律上的阻力時應怎麼辦。
Yes you may . But the most powerful way is rather to ask the Government to come back here once every two years . At least on such a public occasion as a Council meeting the Government needs to give a reply on what Members or we should do when encountering resistance in handling legal matters as shown by our personal experience of helping various people
我們看到的是，現時的當值律師名冊中有1,200多位律師和大律師，他們未必是全職的，怎可能是全職呢？
We can see that there are 1 200 solicitors and barristers on the existing duty lawyer list . They may not be full - time duty lawyers . How can they possibly work as duty lawyers on a full - time basis?
他們曾分享經驗，說以往如果當值律師名冊不太多人，而案件較多，他們不斷接案件也可能是等於擔任全職的當值律師，但現時不會。
They have shared their experience with me saying that in the old days with fewer lawyers on the duty lawyer list but more cases they virtually worked as full - time duty lawyers as they kept taking on cases . But this is no longer the case now
據業界朋友反映，法援並不 足以支持他們成為全職當值律師，即是他們不會全心全意做。
Industry practitioners have reflected that the number of legal aid cases is not enough to support them as full - time duty lawyers . This means that their participation will not be whole - hearted
於是，很容易便會看通告，哪天要當值便出席與申請人會面10多分鐘，提供意見，然後上庭為他辯護，最簡單直接，最好不需要有"尾巴"的案件。
Therefore they will tend to check their rosters . On the day of duty they will meet with an applicant for some 10 minutes offer advice and defend him in court . Simple and straightforward cases without any follow - up work are the most welcome