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本會現在恢復《道歉條例草案》的二讀辯論。
We now resume the Second Reading debate on Apology Bill
法案委員會主席周浩鼎議員就委員會報告，向本會發言。
Mr Holden CHOW Chairman of the Bills Committee on the Bill will address the Council on the Committees Report
如議員不遵從我的命令，我會視之為行為極不檢點，並會根據《議事規則》第452條，命令有關議員立即離開會議廳。
Any Members refusal to comply with my order will be regarded as grossly disorderly conduct for which I may order the Member concerned to withdraw immediately from this Chamber under RoP 452
主席，你的裁決不容挑戰，但你有責任解釋你的裁決。
Your ruling shall not be subjected to challenge President but it is incumbent upon you to explain your ruling
請你解釋，為何不准許許智峯議員提出休會辯論......
Will you please explain why Mr HUI Chi - fung is not allowed to move a motion for adjournment
《2017年行車隧道條例草案》。
Road Tunnels Government Amendment Bill 2017
主席，因應你剛才的意見，我想引用《議事規則》第161條提出，本會現即休會待續，就內地政府未能讓身患重病的中國公民在已獲海外醫療專家安排隨時可前赴海外延醫的情況下，卻仍留在國內未能得到人道照顧的情況進行辯論。
President in response to your view just now I wish to propose under Rule 161 of the Rules of Procedure that this Council do now adjourn to debate the Mainland Governments failure to allow a seriously ill Chinese citizen to go abroad for medical treatment when foreign medical experts have already made arrangements for his receipt of medical treatment overseas at any time and the keeping of him in the country where he is denied humane care
運輸及房屋局局長。
Secretary for Transport and Housing
許智峯議員，如果你再濫用規程問題，我會視之為行為不檢。
Mr HUI Chi - fung if you keep on abusing the procedure of raising a point of order I will regard your action as a disorderly conduct
我根據《議事規則》第39條......
I am citing Rule 39 of the Rules of Procedure I am not challenging your ruling nor am I asking you to explain to us
我不是挑戰你的裁決，亦不是要你作出解釋，只是你剛才提及議員濫用休會辯論的機制，我想你指出濫用機制的是在座的議員，還是你本人呢？
Since you said just now that Members were abusing the system I am only asking you tell us who are abusing the system of moving adjournment motions . Members or you?
根據《議事規則》第161條，休會待續議案的措辭須以中性字眼擬定。我認為張超雄議員提出的議案措辭，並不符合有關規定。
Under RoP 161 the wording of a motion for adjournment shall be couched in neutral terms and I consider that the wording of Dr Fernando CHEUNGs motion fails to comply with this requirement
我剛才已經作出裁決，不批准議員就劉曉波先生的事宜動議休會待續議案。如果議員繼續就劉曉波先生的事宜提出休會待續議案，我亦不會批准。
I have already ruled just now that permission will not be given even if Members keep on moving motions for adjournment in respect of matters relating to Mr LIU Xiaobo
請議員不要濫用休會待續議案的機制，亦不要浪費議會的時間。
Please do not abuse the mechanism of moving motions for adjournment and waste the meeting time of this Council
劉曉波先生的事宜並非只限在立法會會議上辯論，議員亦可透過其他途徑表達意見。
The Legislative Council meeting is not the only platform for the debate on matters relating to Mr LIU Xiaobo . Members may also seek other avenues to voice their views
我已經作出了裁決。
I have already made my ruling
主席，請你指出我的議案中哪些字眼屬不中性。
President will you please point out the wording in my motion which is considered not neutral?
我已經作出裁決，不會在此指出相關字眼。
I will not point out the wording in question here as I have already made my ruling
我現正提出本會現即休會待續的議案，以就國際社會關注劉曉波先生病危的情況及國際的歐洲議會通過"中國應立即釋放2010年諾貝爾和平獎得主劉曉波以及其遭軟禁家中的妻子劉霞，並容許劉曉波尋求任何他希望得到的治療"的決議，作出討論。
Now I move a motion for adjournment That the Council do now adjourn for the purpose of discussing the international communitys concern over Mr LIU Xiaobos critical health conditions and the international European Parliaments passage of a resolution which urges that China should immediately release Nobel Peace Laureate 2010 LIU Xiaobo and his wife LIU Xia who is under house arrest and allow LIU Xiaobo to receive any medical treatment he wishes
我剛才已經說得很清楚，我不會批准有關議案。
I have already made it very clear just now that I will not give permission to the moving of the motion
如果議員繼續不理會我的裁決，正如我剛才所說，我會視之為行為極不檢點，並會根據《議事規則》第452條，命令有關議員退席。
As I have said just now a Members act of continuously ignoring my ruling will be regarded as grossly disorderly conduct for which I may order the Member concerned to withdraw from this meeting under RoP 452
如果議員的行為令會議無法繼續，我亦可以宣布會議結束。
Besides should any Member act in a way that renders it impossible to carry on with the proceedings I may announce that the meeting be adjourned
主席，根據《議事規則》第161及2條，我動議本會現即休會待續的議案，議案措辭為："因一直長期為中國爭取民主的鬥士劉曉波的妻子劉霞就其丈夫近期才得悉患上末期肝癌，為使其丈夫能得到適切治療，要求中國政府以人道立場，讓劉曉波可往外國接受治療，但仍未獲得答覆。
President in accordance with Rules 161 and 2 of the Rules of Procedure I wish to move a motion that this Council do now adjourn and the wording of the motion is LIU Xia the wife of Chinese veteran democracy fighter LIU Xiaobo has not received any reply regarding her request to the Chinese Government for allowing LIU Xiaobo to go abroad for medical treatment on humanitarian grounds so that her husband can receive appropriate medical treatment of his terminal liver cancer which was disclosed only recently
主席，我以發展事務委員會主席的身份，向本會提交事務委員會2016-2017年度的工作報告。
President in my capacity as Chairman of the Panel on Development the Panel I submit to this Council the report on the work of the Panel for the 2016 - 2017 session
以下我會簡述事務委員會的數項重點工作。
I will highlight several major items of work of the Panel
在本年度內，事務委員會繼續監察政府增加房屋土地供應的工作。
During the session the Panel continued to monitor the Government in increasing housing land supply
政府在這方面採取的短/中期措施，包括發展前安達臣道石礦場用地，該項目完成之後，可以在2023年提供9,000多個私營及資助房屋單位，事務委員會支持政府推展這項計劃。
In this regard the Government adopted a series of short - to medium - term measures including the development of the former Anderson Road Quarry site . When the project is completed it can provide about 9 000 private and subsidized housing units in 2023 . The Panel supported the Government in taking forward this project
鑒於這項計劃和安達臣道公屋發展計劃將會合共提供2萬多個住宅單位，供7萬多人入住，委員十分關注該區的道路交通系統日後能否配合居民的需要。
Since this project and the public rental housing development at Anderson Road will together provide about 20 000 housing units and accommodate about 70 000 people members were concerned whether the future road network system in the district could meet public need
委員就秀茂坪區的道路改善措施提出具體建議，政府當局承諾會作出跟進。
Members made specific suggestions on measures to improve the roads in Sau Mau Ping area and the Administration undertook that it would follow up the matter
對於政府發展洪水橋成為一個可容21萬人口的新市鎮，事務委員會原則上支持釋放棕地作業所佔的土地作發展新市鎮之用，但亦關注政府如何協助受影響的居民、農戶，以及棕地作業營運者。
In relation to the Governments plan to develop Hung Shui Kiu into a new town to accommodate a population of 210 000 the Panel supported in principle to release the land occupied by brownfield operations for the new town development . However the Panel also expressed concern over how the Government would assist the affected residents farmers and brownfield operators
委員強調，政府必須了解受影響人士的需要，給予合理的賠償，以及幫助他們搬遷至合適的地方。
Members stressed that the Government must understand the needs of the people to be affected by the development and provide reasonable compensation and assistance for them to relocate to other suitable places
事務委員會曾經討論政府發表的《香港2030+：跨越2030年的規劃遠景與策略》，並就此事宜聽取公眾人士的意見。
The Panel discussed a review published by the Government titled Hong Kong 2030 Towards a Planning Vision and Strategy Transcending 2030 and received public views on the matter
委員尤其關注發展"東大嶼都會"及新界北的建議。
Members were particularly concerned about the proposals on the East Lantau Metropolis and the New Territories North area
就"東大嶼都會"而言，委員關心工程費用龐大，以及填海工程對環境造成影響的問題；就新界北而言，委員關心新發展區將來的交通配套，以及原區就業機會等問題。
Regarding the East Lantau Metropolis members were concerned about the enormous cost of the works project and the environmental impacts of the reclamation works . Regarding the New Territories North area members expressed concerns among other on the transport support for the new development area and job opportunities in the district
事務委員會會繼續監察政府如何推展這兩項建議。
The Panel will continue to monitor the progress of the Government in taking forward these two proposals
事務委員會一直關注本港食水的水質。
The quality of our drinking water has been an issue of concern to the Panel
在今年4月，委員組成考察團，前往廣東省東江流域進行職務考察，了解東深供水系統如何運作，以及廣東省當局如何保護供港東江水的水質。
In April 2017 the Panel formed a delegation to visit the Dongjiang River Basin in Guangdong Province . The purpose of the duty visit was to learn about the operation of the Dongjiang - Shenzhen Water Supply System and the measures taken by the Guangdong Provincial authorities in safeguarding the quality of Dongjiang water supplied to Hong Kong
有關報告已經提交內務委員會。
The Panel submitted a report on the duty visit to the House Committee
此外，事務委員會亦於今年5月，前往位於邊境禁區的木湖抽水站及於大埔的濾水廠考察，了解水務署如何淨化輸入本港的東江水。
Moreover the Panel also conducted a visit to the Muk Wu Raw Water Pumping Station and Tai Po Water Treatment Works in May 2017 to better understand how the Water Supplies Department provided water treatment on the Dongjiang water imported to Hong Kong
事務委員會在其他方面的工作詳情，已載於報告之內。
The details of the work of the Panel in other areas are set out in its report
胡志偉議員就"工商事務委員會2016-2017年度報告"向本會發言。
Mr WU Chi - wai will address the Council on the Report of the Panel on Commerce and Industry 2016 - 2017
主席，我謹以衞生事務委員會主席的身份，就事務委員會在今個立法年度的工作，向立法會提交報告。由於事務委員會的工作已詳細載述在報告內，我只會重點闡述其中幾項主要工作。
President in my capacity as Chairman of the Panel on Health Services the Panel I submit the report on the work of the Panel for the current session and I will only briefly highlight several major items of work of the Panel as a detailed account of the work of the Panel can be found in the written report
事務委員會十分關注有關醫療儀器規管架構的立法建議。
The Panel was very concerned about the legislative proposals to the regulatory regime for medical devices
委員促請政府當局，重新審視對特定醫療儀器所建議的使用管制，並設立一個多方平台，邀請不同持份者就此議題提出意見。
Members of the Panel urged the Administration to revisit the proposed use control of specific medical devices and set up a multi - party platform to invite different stakeholders to provide views on the subject
事務委員會亦曾經討論醫療人力規劃和專業發展策略的檢討結果。
The Panel also discussed the outcome of manpower planning and professional development of the health care professions
委員對有關人力推算模型所採用的假設及數據表示關注，他們要求政府當局，以提升現時的服務水平為基礎，調整有關的人力供求推算。
Members concerned about the assumption and data of the manpower projection model and urged the Administration to adjust the manpower projection having due regard to the need for service enhancement
為了有效管理公營及私營醫療系統的醫療風險警示事件，委員促請醫院管理局總辦事處，確保各醫院適時呈報及盡快公布有關事件。
In order to manage sentinel events in public and private hospitals effectively members urged Hospital Authority HA Head Office to ensure all hospitals to report and announce relevant incidents in a timely manner
而當局在擬議的私營醫療機構新規管制度下，應要求私家醫院制訂一套全面的醫療風險警示的管理系統，並訂明有關的管理措施和罰則，以遏止私家醫院不遵從相關規定的行為。
Under the proposed new regulatory regime for private health care facilities private hospitals should be requested to establish a comprehensive sentinel events management system and the Administration should stipulate the management measures and penalty for non - compliance so as to curb non - compliance of the relevant requirements by private hospitals
事務委員會亦繼續跟進加強精神健康服務這項議題。
The Panel continued to follow up the issue concerning the enhancement of mental services
委員認為，當局應在政務司司長轄下成立一個跨部門督導委員會，以制訂一套全面的精神健康政策和有關的服務計劃，並監察其推行情況。此外，委員亦關注到，當局從未界定罕見病的定義，亦未有制訂任何具體政策，為罕見疾病患者提供支援。
Members considered that the Administration should establish an interdepartmental steering committee under the steer of Chief Secretary for Administration for the formulation and monitoring the implementation of a comprehensive mental health policy and relevant service plans Furthermore members also concerned that the Government had not established any official definition of rare diseases nor had it set out any specific policy on provision of support for rare disease patients
他們促請當局立法制訂有關政策、成立一個跨部門罕見疾病中央管理委員會，以及設立一項為數5億元的基金，為罕見疾病患者提供藥物援助。
They urged the Government to immediately formulate a policy on rare diseases; establish an inter - departmental central committee on management of rare diseases; and immediately earmark 500 million to set up a rare diseases drug subsidy fund to provide subsidies for patients suffering from rare diseases
事務委員會亦曾經討論有關規管私營醫療機構、中藥安全令，以及控煙和控酒的立法建議；多項醫管局的服務及工務工程；第二階段電子健康紀錄計劃的撥款建議；及推行自願醫保計劃的進展等議題。
The Panel also discussed the regulatory regime for private health care facilities a Chinese medicine safety order and legislative proposals about the Control of tobacco and alcohol consumption; a number of services and public works projects of HA; funding proposal for the stage two Electronic Health Record Programme as well as the progress of the implementation of the Voluntary Health Insurance Scheme and so on
麥美娟議員就"房屋事務委員會2016-2017年度報告"向本會發言。
Ms Alice MAK will address the Council on the Report of the Panel on Housing 2016 - 2017
張宇人議員就"發展事務委員會2016-2017年度報告"向本會發言。
Mr Tommy CHEUNG will address the Council on the Report of the Panel on Development 2016 - 2017
邵家臻議員就"福利事務委員會2016-2017年度報告"向本會發言。
Mr SHIU Ka - chun will address the Council on the Report of the Panel on Welfare Services 2016 - 2017
林健鋒議員就"經濟發展事務委員會2016-2017年度報告"向本會發言。
Mr Jeffrey LAM will address the Council on the Report of the Panel on Economic Development 2016 - 2017
李國麟議員就"衞生事務委員會2016-2017年度報告"向本會發言。
Prof Joseph LEE will address the Council on the Report of the Panel on Health Services 2016 - 2017
謝偉俊議員就"議事規則委員會2016年10月至2017年7月的工作進度報告"向本會發言。
Mr Paul TSE will address the Council on the Progress Report of the Committee on Rules of Procedure for the period October 2016 to July 2017
陳健波議員就"財務委員會審核2017至2018年度開支預算的報告"向本會發言。
68 . Mr CHAN Kin - por will address the Council on the Report of the Finance Committee on the examination of the Estimates of Expenditure 2017 - 2018
主席，本人以司法及法律事務委員會主席身份，提交本年度的工作報告，並簡述幾項重點工作。
President in my capacity as the Chairman of the Panel on Administration of Justice and Legal Services the Panel I present a report on the work of the Panel in this year and briefly highlight several major items of work
在本年度立法會會期內，事務委員會繼續聽取政府當局就與司法及法律事務政策有關的立法建議所作的簡介，並提出意見。
In this session the Panel continued to receive briefings by the Administration and provide views on any major legislative proposals in respect of policy matters relating to the administration of justice and legal services including the proposed apology legislation and the legislative amendments to the Arbitration Ordinance and the Mediation Ordinance
其中包括擬議的道歉法例及對《仲裁條例》及《調解條例》作出的立法修訂，前者是藉着訂明作出道歉的法律後果，提倡和鼓勵作出道歉，協助排解爭端。後者則是藉修訂相關法例，以確保第三者資助仲裁及相關的 法律程序，不受針對助訟及包攬訴訟的普通法原則所禁止。
The proposed apology legislation sought to promote and encourage the making of apologies in order to facilitate settlement of disputes by stating the legal consequences of making an apology while the legislative amendments to the Arbitration Ordinance and Mediation Ordinance sought to ensure that third party funding of arbitration and associated proceedings was not prohibited by the common law doctrines of maintenance and champerty
事務委員會大致上支持上述的建議，並提出意見。
Members generally supported the above proposals and provided views on the amendments
事務委員會在本年度繼續關注司法機構的人手情況及獲提供的其他支援。
Manpower and other support for the Judiciary continued to be a concern of the Panel in the current session
事務委員會曾聽取了司法機構政務處的報告，並支持其開設14個常額司法職位以加強各級法院/審裁處的司法人手編制，以及開設1個首長級編外公務員職位的建議。
The Panel was briefed on the Judiciary Administrations report and supported the proposals to create 14 permanent judicial posts to enhance the establishment of judicial manpower at various levels of courtstribunal and one supernumerary civil service directorate post at Principal Executive Officer
事務委員會在年內繼續與政府當局跟進有關在法院程序進行期間處理性罪行案件的措施。
The Panel continued to follow up with the Administration on measures for handling sexual offence cases during court proceedings
政府當局曾就《2017年成文法條例草案》諮詢委員的意見，該條例草案的內容包括擬議修訂《刑事訴訟程序條例》，以賦予法庭酌情決定權，准許某些性罪行的申訴人藉電視直播聯繫方式提供證據。
The Administration consulted the Panel on the Statute Law Bill 2017 which included the proposed amendment to the Criminal Procedure Ordinance Cap . 221 to give the Court a discretion to permit complainants of certain sexual offences to give evidence by way of a live television link
事務委員會支持上述擬議修訂。
The panel supported the proposed amendment
事務委員會察悉，司法機構政務處在檢討過區域法院及小額錢債審裁處的民事司法管轄權限後，建議將區域法院一般民事申索限額由100萬元提高至300萬元，以及將小額錢債審裁處的申索限額由50,000元調高至75,000元。
The Panel noted that the Judiciary Administration after having conducted a review of the civil jurisdictional limits of the District Court DC and the Small Claims Tribunal SCT proposed to increase the general financial limit of the civil jurisdiction of the DC from 1 million to 3 million; and to increase the limit for SCT from 50,000 to 75,000
委員歡迎有關修訂，並提出日後應定期檢討上述權限。
Members welcomed the relevant amendments and expressed that the limits should be reviewed regularly in future
梁繼昌議員就"財經事務委員會2016-2017年度報告"向本會發言。
Mr Kenneth LEUNG will address the Council on the Report of the Panel on Financial Affairs 2016 - 2017
代理主席，我發言支持《道歉條例草案》。
Deputy President I speak in support of the Apology Bill the Bill
我記得我們曾參加一個很大型的國際研討會，司長也有出席，我的印象很深刻，會上有國際學者和專家分享，在醫療事故增設道歉機制，較容易促成雙方調解。
I remember we attended a large international conference and the Secretary for Justice was there too . I remember deeply that some international scholars and experts shared their experience at the conference saying that an apology system could help bring the two sides in a medical incident to a settlement
此外，需要《道歉條例》的，絕對不止是公營的醫療機構或醫院管理局，大學也有很多紛爭，很多時候只是意氣之爭，導致最後雙方打官司，只為一句道歉。
Moreover not only public medical institutions or the Hospital Authority but also universities may have to handle dispute cases and they need apology legislation . Many of these disputes originate from emotional arguments and end up in litigations but all that they want is just an apology . The same is true for public institutions
公營機構也一樣，大型機構的僱主不與僱員續約或將其解僱，但同時又說了很多說話或做了很多事，如果沒有道歉機制，可能令該僱員難以再找工作。
When a large public institution dismisses an employee or terminates a contract with him the two sides may say or do things impulsively . Without an apology system the employee may have difficulties in finding a new job
又例如我們經常處理的法團紛爭，物業管理公司或大發展商與個別業主的紛爭都可能基於意氣，漸漸導致雙方鬧得焦頭爛額，"賠了 夫人又折兵"，正因為沒有一個可以促成道歉的機制。
For instance we often handle cases of disputes for owners corporations . Disputes between individual owners and property management companies or large property developers often originate from an emotional argument which gradually deteriorates into a loss - loss situation because there is not any mechanism to facilitate the making of an apology
因此，我認為這個方向非常可取，亦值得鼓勵。
I thus think that an apology system is a desirable option and should be encouraged
在《條例草案》的制定過程中，我覺得有很多方面值得一提。
Another direction is that there should be no discretion . I remember that many members at that time preferred not giving any discretion . Many points raised during the making of the Bill are worth mentioning
第一，大家都認為道歉不應只適用於司法或其他程序，因為不止司法機關或審裁處，很多其他調查程序也有機會適用，因此不止法院適用，最好便是用"decision maker"這字眼。
First we all think that apology legislation should not be exclusively applicable to judicial or other proceedings . The reason is that besides judicial bodies or tribunals many other investigation proceedings may have to use it . Hence it is best to use the term decision maker; and second apology legislation should also be applicable to the Government
澳洲將美國的範圍擴大，美國主要用在醫療事故或專業紛爭，而澳洲則擴大至大部分民事範圍，而道歉的確有機會包括承認過失。
Apology legislation in Australia has an even bigger scope than in the United States . In the United States apology legislation mainly covers medical incidents or professional disputes while in Australia it also covers most civil disputes and making apologies can be regarded as admission of fault
即使沒有《道歉條例》或作出道歉，受屈人同樣有機會被打動，因為有些人心腸軟，只要對方道歉或被遊說便會心軟，接受一些很低的條件，這也不足為奇，這要靠律師或協助他的人給予提醒。
Even if there is not any apology legislation or no apology is made some people who are tender - hearted will still be persuaded to accept less favourable terms . This is nothing to be surprised at . The lawyer or the person helping the complainant should remind the complainant
所以，從各方面來考慮......
So considering from different perspectives
我也想根據《議事規則》第162條提出一項臨時的休會議案辯論，我的議案措辭如下："本會現即休會待續，就劉曉波作為第一位和唯一獲諾貝爾和平獎的中國人、一位人權和民主鬥士，現在生命已經進入倒數階段，而是次會議是本會本立法年度的最後一次會議，本會對劉曉波和劉霞兩夫婦就推動中國民主所作出的貢獻和犧牲深表敬意，並對他們多年來所承受的壓迫和痛苦表示痛心。
I also wish to move a motion for adjournment in accordance with RoP 162 and the wording of my motions is as follows That the Council do now adjourn and since LIU Xiaobo is the first and only Chinese awarded the Nobel Peace Prize he is a fighter for human rights and democracy his life is coming to an end and this meeting is the last one in the current legislative session of this Council this Council expresses deep respect for the contributions and sacrifice made by LIU Xiaobo and his wife LIU Xia towards the promotion of democracy in China and expresses grief at the oppression and pains suffered by them over all these years
"，這是我動議休會待續議案的措辭。
This is the wording of the motion for adjournment moved by me
《道歉條例草案》是一項非常矛盾的法例，但以我個人來看，我始終覺得有比沒有的好，我們要看看在香港落實的情況如何。
The Apology Bill the Bill is a deeply contradictory piece of legislation but I think it is still better to have the legislation in place than nothing . We should rather keep an eye on how it is implemented in Hong Kong . Generally speaking should we make an apology?
就一般的道歉，尤其是新聞界經常都會收到所謂名人或政府發出的律師信，控告你誹謗或失實報道等，有時可能會出錯，那這時你應 否道歉呢？
In particular should the media which always receive lawyers letters apologize in response to such letters issued from so - called celebrities or the Government after they threaten to take legal action for defamation or inaccurate reports . You know the media do sometimes make mistakes . In that case should an apology be made?
一般而言，道歉是希望情況變好，有所改善。
In general we make an apology as we hope to improve the situation
但是，從以前的事例中，包括我身邊的新聞界朋友都有類似經驗，便是千萬不要隨便道歉，因為一旦道歉便等於認錯。
However in past cases including similar experiences of my friends in the media sector we should not apologize lightly because making an apology is tantamount to the admission of fault
正如麥美娟議員剛才說，原來道歉內容可被法庭裁決。
As Ms Alice MAK has mentioned just now the contents of an apology is subject to decisions of a court
這位裁斷者不一定是法庭的法官，裁斷者的身份包括法團。
A decision maker is not necessarily a court judge as a body corporate can also take up such a role
大家要看清楚"裁斷者"在法律上真正的闡釋，便是"就適用程序而言，指具有權限在該程序中聆聽、收取和審查證據的人。
We must examine clearly the legal interpretation of a decision maker . In the Bill a decision maker in relation to applicable proceedings means the person having the authority to hear receive and examine evidence in the proceedings
政府答覆指，他們相信一般法團都會有法律顧問。
The Government pointed out in the reply that it was believed that in general incorporated owners corporations should have their own legal advisers
另一點，我覺得政府在初時較為粗疏，我一直感到好奇，想知道《條例草案》是否適用於立法會？
Another point I want to raise is when the Government introduced the Bill its drafting was quite loose . Actually I have been curious to know if the Bill is applicable to the Legislative Council
剛才我可能聽得不是太清楚，有人說這法例暫時不適用於立法會，不知是否我的錯覺，乍聽之下，彷彿是現在暫時不適用，日後可能會適用，因此政府要好好研究。
I am not sure if I have missed something . Or is it my illusion? . It sounds as though the legislation will not apply to the Legislative Council only for the time being and it may cover the legislature in the future
我認為根本不用研究，因為對我而言，這法例始終是不可用於立法會的，不論是大會、委員會如內務委員會、財務委員會等，或其他的事務委員會。
Therefore the Government will study the issues of applicability properly . Yet I do not see any need to conduct such a study because I think the apology legislation should never be applicable to the Legislative Council including this Council such Committees as the House Committee Finance Committees etc or Panels
香港所關注的可能是新聞界收到律師信，包括來自政府、特首的律師信，特首也會寄律師信到報館。
What concerns Hong Kong people is probably the phenomenon of sending lawyers letters to the media including those sent from the Government and the Chief Executive . Even the Chief Executive has sent a lawyers letter to a newspaper company
如果真的覺得自己做得不好，是否應該道歉？
If the media do think that they are not doing a good job should they apologize?
當局提到要視乎公眾利益，以及可以秉行公義。
Just like maternal love and friendship the expressions of public interest and the interests of the administration of justice which the Government has mentioned in its response are indisputable and thus unquestionable
暫時來說，在香港的司法制度下，我從來不覺得有任何香港人會濫用司法程序；我反而覺得，不需要有《條例草案》才可以減低訴訟的數目。
For the time being I do not think any Hong Kong people has made use of the local legal system to abuse the judicial proceedings . On the contrary the reduction of the number of lawsuits is achievable even without the introduction of the Bill
代理主席，我是其中一位對道歉法有比較多意見的人，尤其是對於所謂絕對豁免保障事實方面有比較多的意見。
Deputy President I am one of those who have relatively more comments on the apology legislation especially on the absolute immunity and protection in respect of statements of fact
主席，我以法案委員會主席的身份提交報告。
President I submit the Bills Committees report in my capacity as Chairman of the Bills Committee