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當然，我昨天亦聽到張超雄議員提出了很多意見，指出若護養院人均樓面面積為6.5平方米，並不足夠，又引述了很多國際標準和經驗。
Certainly yesterday I also heard Dr Fernando CHEUNG present many views stating that it would not be sufficient if the area of floor space for each resident in nursing homes was 6.5 sq m He also cited a lot of international standards and experience
我在此表達這點意見，多謝主席。
Thank you Chairman
代理主席，我留意到反對派名副其實是越說越遠，今天的議題其實是綠色債券的安排，但卻突然變為討論"明日大嶼"，確實是風馬牛不相及。
Deputy President I notice that the opposition camp is actually staying farther and farther from the subject . The subject under discussion today is in fact the arrangement relating to green bonds but the discussion suddenly drifts to Lantau Tomorrow which is indeed irrelevant
代理主席，首先要說清楚一點，以免大家只聽反對派所說，便會被誤導。
Deputy President we have to set the record straight from the outset lest one should be misled if he only listens to the opposition camp
這項根據《借款條例》提出的擬議決議案，旨在提供一個1,000億元的上限。
The proposed resolution moved under the Loans Ordinance seeks to provide a cap of 100 billion
因為這只是一個所謂的上限，政府將來若真正要推行任何綠色債券項目，必須提交立法會財務委員會進行審議。
Since this is only a so - called cap if the Government really intends to implement any green bond issuance in the future a proposal must be submitted to the Finance Committee of the Legislative Council for scrutiny
代理主席，據我理解，這種提供1,000億元上限的安排，並非只見於現時根據《借款條例》提出的擬議決議案，過去我們推行中小企融資擔保計劃時，信貸保證承擔額亦是以1,000億元為上限，是同樣的安排。
Deputy President to my understanding such an arrangement of providing for a cap of 100 billion is found not only in the proposed resolution currently moved under the Loans Ordinance . A total loan guarantee commitment capped at 100 billion was also provided for the implementation of the SME Financing Guarantee Scheme in the past
舉例來說，國際資本市場協會制訂名為《綠色債券原則》的綠色債券發行自願性流程指引，便是其中之一。
For instance one of the examples is the Green Bond Principles GBP introduced by the International Capital Market Association ICMA as voluntary process guidelines for issuing green bonds
這套指引的最新版本是《綠色債券原則2018》，當中列舉了綠色債券市場現有及潛在融資項目的常見類別。
Its latest version GBP 2018 provides an indicative list of the most commonly used types of projects supported by and expected to be supported by the green bond market
更重要的是，這些指引或參考標準其實經常會因應市場發展而更新及修訂，例如國際資本市場協會於2018年6月在香港舉行年度大會，並且通過其最新指引《綠色債券原則2018》。
More importantly these guidelines or reference standards are frequently updated and revised in the light of market developments . For example ICMA held its annual conference in Hong Kong in June 2018 during which its latest guideline GBP 2018 was endorsed
無論是執法機關或政府機關在處理這些事情上，甚至日後出現法律訴訟，其實亦要讓法庭可以稍為靈活地處理。
Whether it is for the law enforcement agencies or government authorities to deal with such matters or even if law suits arise in the future the court should in fact be allowed to handle them with some degree of flexibility
代理主席，舉例而言，我曾參與《競爭條例草案》的審議工作。
Deputy President let me cite an example . I have participated in the scrutiny of the Competition Bill
其實在早期有很多不同意見，認為要將一些定義納入條例之中。
In fact there were quite a lot of different opinions at the early stage suggesting that some definitions should be incorporated into the eventual ordinance
其實附加指引是供競爭事務委員會作參考，他們處理問題時會參考這些指引。
In fact the supplementary guidelines serve as reference for the Competition Commission which would refer to these guidelines when dealing with related issues
《競爭條例草案》委員會當時曾出現這樣的爭辯。
Such a debate did arise at the Bills Committee on Competition Bill at that time
就像我剛才所舉的例子，將定義納入附加的指引，是否同樣可解決問題？
Just like the example that I mentioned a moment ago can the problem also be solved by incorporating the definition into the supplementary guidelines?
其實我們現在絕非像"盲頭烏蠅"般，沒有規矩可循。
As a matter of fact we are definitely not acting in an ill - informed manner without any rules to follow
相反，其實我們已有林林總總的國際標準和規矩可以參考，又何必一定要就定義作這樣的爭拗？
On the contrary we can draw reference from various international standards and rules already in place . So why should we dispute over the definition?
代理主席，我亦想在此指出，發展綠色金融和發行綠色債券在國際上是大勢所趨。
The development of green finance and green bond issuances are in line with the international trend
因此，立法會今天審議有關綠色債券借款上限安排的決議案，假如決議案不獲通過，或突然因為中止待續議案而導致決議案不獲通過或被擱置，我恐怕可能會令國際社會有所誤解或產生錯誤的印象，認為香港是否根本無心應對全球氣候變化或環境保護議題。
Therefore the Legislative Council is scrutinizing the proposed resolution on the cap of borrowings in relation to green bonds today . If the proposed resolution is negatived or if it is not passed or is shelved due to the adjournment motion I am afraid the international community may have a misunderstanding or wrong impression about Hong Kong leading them to query whether Hong Kong has no intention to tackle global climate change or environmental protection issues at all
我認為必須向正在觀看立法會會議直播的公眾人士清楚說明這一點，他們千萬不要被誤導。
I think it is necessary to make this clear to members of the public who are watching the live broadcast of this Legislative Council meeting lest they would be misled
因此，代理主席，我反對朱凱廸議員提出的中止待續議案。
Therefore Deputy President I oppose the adjournment motion moved by Mr CHU Hoi - dick
我希望繼續處理這項根據《借款條例》提出擬議決議案的議程。
I hope to continue to deal with the Agenda item relating to the proposed resolution moved under the Loans Ordinance
政府一直也有提出，此債券計劃並非為單一項目去做，而是一籃子的項目，所以我們會設有上限，並會不時發行有關的 債券。
As the Government has consistently pointed out the bond programme does not serve a single project but a basket of them . Hence there will be a borrowing ceiling and bonds will be issued from time to time
我們在小組委員會報告第10至12段，亦說明發行綠色債券的目的是為了長遠推動綠色金融市場的發展，以及推廣環保意識。
As indicated in paragraphs 10 to 12 of the Subcommittee report green bond issuances seek to develop the green financial market in the long run and promote environmental awareness . Therefore the programme under discussion is different from bonds issued in the past in particular those issued pursuant to Cap . 61A Cap
所以這方面能讓議員看到，我們絕不會"漂綠"項目。
Hence Members can see that we will absolutely not greenwash the projects
代理主席，我發言到此為止。
Deputy President I shall stop here
主席，我衷心感謝各位議員就根據《借款條例》第31條提出的擬議決議案，提供寶貴的意見。
President I express my sincere gratitude to all Members who have provided valuable comments on the proposed resolution under section 31 of the Loans Ordinance
我想藉此機會回應胡志偉議員、區諾軒議員和朱凱廸議員所提出的修訂。
Taking this opportunity I would like to respond to the amending motions to be proposed by Mr WU Chi - wai Mr AU Nok - hin and Mr CHU Hoi - dick
首先是與政府綠色債券發行計劃及擬議決議案的借款目的相關的修訂議案。
First of all let us look at the amending motions relating to the Government Green Bond Programme and the purposes of borrowings under the proposed resolution
這些修訂表面上與借款目的有關，但實際上反映了議員對如何使用已撥入基本工程儲備基金的借款的關注。
These amending motions seem to be related to the purposes of borrowings but they actually reflect Members concern on the use of borrowings which have been credited to the Capital Works Reserve Fund CWRF
我想就此重申， 綠色金融是一項嶄新但發展迅速的金融活動領域。
I would like to reiterate here that green finance is a brand new but rapidly developing area of financial activity
不同的國際機構各自推出，並不時更新它們的綠色債券發行標準和指引。
Various international organizations launch their own projects and revise their standards and guidelines on the issuance of green bonds from time to time
作為市場發展措施，為使計劃能與環球綠色金融發展共進，我們認為有必要及理據以務實的方式，透過我剛才在動議決議案的演辭，清楚表明政策目的，及支用借款的方式，即借款只會支用在已獲財務委員會批准並具備環境效益的政府工務項目上，避免減低計劃的靈活性，以免在無意間削弱綠色金融的發展潛力。
As a market development measure to ensure the programme can keep up with the growth of green finance internationally we consider it necessary and reasonable to clearly declare in a practical way the policy objectives and the use of borrowings with the speech I made in moving the resolution . In other words the borrowings will only be used in Public Works Programme projects which have been approved by the Finance Committee to avoid reducing the flexibility of the programme lest the development potentials of green finance be undermined inadvertently
在此，我先回應幾位議員，包括朱凱廸議員剛才提到綠色債券發行的時間，以及工程審批的時間和有關程序。
Here I would like to respond to Members comments first including Mr CHU Hoi - dicks comments made just now on the timing of bond issuance as well as the timing and relevant procedures regarding the vetting and approval of works
首先，一般來說，工程項目會由政府有關部門立項，並作內部籌備和安排。
First of all generally speaking a relevant department in the Government will initiate a works project and make internal preparation and arrangement for it
所以在審批後，資源方面不是問題。
Hence resources will not be a problem after the project has been approved
然後，我們會考慮於適當時候在符合國際綠色債券發行標準的情況下發債，或稱為籌款，籌得的款項會撥入剛才提及的基本工程儲備基金，用於綠色項目之上。
Then we will consider at an appropriate time issue bonds in compliance with international standards for green bond issuance or what is called raise fund . The proceeds will be credited to the above mentioned CWRF for the green projects
主席，我感謝各位議員就根據《借款條例》第31條提出的議案發表了很多寶貴意見。
President I thank Members for their valuable views on the Resolution moved under section 31 of the Loans Ordinance
正如我先前發言時提及，推行政府綠色債券計劃，有助彰顯政府對可持續發展的支持及應對氣候變化的決心，並可連同其他相關措施，推動綠色金融在香港的發展，打造香港成為區域綠色金融樞紐。
Like I said earlier the launch of the Government Green Bond Programme together with other related measures can help demonstrate the Governments support for sustainable development and its determination to combat climate change . The Programme will also promote the development of green finance in Hong Kong with a view to establishing Hong Kong as a green finance hub in the region
我在此衷心希望各位議員支持這項根據《借款條例》第31條提出的議案，讓我們可以盡快落實這項計劃，並在計劃下發行首批綠色債券。
Here I earnestly call on Members to support this Resolution moved under section 31 of the Loans Ordinance so that we can launch the Programme and issue an inaugural government green bond as soon as possible
代理主席，我發言支持朱凱廸議員就根據《借款條例》動議的擬議決議案提出的中止待續議案。
Deputy President I rise to speak in support of the adjournment motion proposed by Mr CHU Hoi - dick in respect of the proposed Resolution moved under the Loans Ordinance
政府對綠色債券的定義、目標和政策內容含糊其詞，不清不楚，令我很擔心和懷疑政府會否藉此機會打開財政儲備的缺口，以發債為名，實質推展更多且規模更大的基建工程，包括我們很擔心的1,700公頃人工島填海工程，假借綠色之名，實質推展一些高排放、破壞環境、不可持續亦不能逆轉的填海工程。
The Government has been vague and ambiguous about the definition purpose and policy content of green bonds which makes me concerned and suspicious of the Governments intention to take this opportunity to create an opening to the fiscal reserves taking forward more infrastructure projects of an even larger scale including the reclamation works for the construction of artificial islands with a total area of 1 700 hectares which we are very concerned about under the guise of bond issuance . It actually seeks to take forward some highly polluting environmentally - unfriendly unsustainable and irreversible reclamation works in the name of green
我有4個理由支持朱議員的中止待續議案。
There are four reasons for me to support Mr CHUs adjournment motion
首先，擬議決議案中有關借款上限的定義有問題。
First the definition of borrowing ceiling in the proposed resolution is defective
政府在動議擬議決議案的發言中指出，1,000億元上限的意思是"計劃的規模或借款上限是指任何時間在計劃下未清償的本金額。
As pointed out by the Government in its speech when moving the proposed Resolution the meaning of the ceiling of 100 billion is that the size of the Programme or borrowing ceiling refers to the amount of outstanding principal at any time under the Programme
"即是說只要在任何一段時間內，未償還的金額未達1,000億元，政府便可繼續發債。
That is to say so long as the outstanding amount under the Programme does not reach 100 billion at any time the Government may continue to issue bonds
我很擔心，總發債金額可以超過1,000億元，我認為這種說法是語言"偽 術"，其實是要打開財政儲備的缺口，只要政府控制未償還的本金額，一天有基建工程，一天也可以不停發債。
I am worried that the total sum of bonds issued may exceed 100 billion . I consider it equivocation which actually seeks to create an opening to the fiscal reserves . As long as the Government is in control of the sum of outstanding principal it can keep issuing bonds for any infrastructure project that comes along the way completely forgetting the fiscal discipline that it kept preaching in the past
而政府過去經常掛在嘴邊的"財政紀律"則拋諸腦後，政府現正試圖建立可以永遠發債的機制，這與財政紀律的原則相違背，是自打嘴巴的說法。
The Government now attempts to establish a mechanism that allows perpetual bond issuance running counter to the principle of fiscal discipline which is a slap in its own face
政府解釋，為保留彈性，因此不將定義納入擬議決議案的正文中。
As explained by the Government in order to retain flexibility it has not included the definition in the body text of the proposed Resolution
然而，擬議決議案正文的定義如此廣闊，亦沒有具體連結減排或應對氣候變化的目標，其實會出現無所不包的情況，究竟擬議決議案是否真的可以令政府基建變得環保？
Nevertheless such a broad definition in the body text of the proposed Resolution without any specific objective relating to emission reduction or in response to climate change will actually become a catch - all . Will the Governments infrastructure projects really go green because of the proposed resolution?
還是會出現我們很擔心的情況，將一些"大白象"工程"漂綠"不是漂白，而是"漂綠"？
Or will it lead to greenwashing of some white elephant projects―not whitewashing but greenwashing―something that worries us much?
舉例而言，領展房地產投資信託基金於前年曾發行38億元綠色債券，但主要用於發展與南豐發展有限公司合營的商廈海濱匯，所謂的綠色部分其實只是提供平台綠化空間，以及為車位提供電動車充電插頭，"綠色"變成地產項目的融資潤飾。
For example Link REIT Link issued green bonds worth 3.8 billion the year before last but the sum raised was used primarily for financing the Quayside a commercial building project under a joint venture with Nan Fung Development Limited . In fact the so - called green element is only the provision of greening opportunities on the podium and electric vehicle chargers at parking spaces and green serves to sugarcoat the financing for real estate projects
而且，領展本身同時不停翻新旗下商場，進行資產提升，加上地產發展商興建豪宅，其實這些便是我所說製造大量建築垃圾，造成更大浪費的項目。
Meanwhile Link also keeps renovating its shopping arcades for asset enhancement . This coupled with the luxurious properties built by real estate developers is what I call projects creating massive construction waste which will end up wasting more
如果將來政府的綠色債券只為基建包裝和裝飾，只會助長更多排放，更大規模的浪費，製造"超級大嘥鬼"。
If the Governments green bonds serve only as the packaging and sugarcoating of infrastructure in the future they will just foment more emissions and greater waste creating a mega - waster
所以，我支持中止待續議案，是要阻止政府成為"超級大嘥鬼"。
Hence I support the adjournment motion in order to prevent the Government from becoming a mega - waster
然而，你會問，我反對之餘，有否反建議？
Nevertheless you may ask whether I have any counter - proposal while voicing objection to it
法國政府亦就每個範疇提供很清楚和確切的定義，指明開支投放於甚麼項目才算符合資格，甚至訂明預算相關開支是多少金額。
The French Government has also provided clear and exact definitions for each sector specifying the scope of items under which such expenditures can qualify and even set out the estimated amount of expenditures
但是，現時特區政府沒有這樣做。
But this is not what the SAR Government is doing now
政府這次提出擬議決議案，只在動議演辭中草草解釋數句。
The Government has just provided a perfunctory explanation of a few lines in its speech moving the proposed Resolution this time around
所以，我們擔心綠色工務變成掛羊頭賣狗肉，融資所得的金額實際用於推進與改善環境和應對氣候變化無關的工程，這種憂慮確切地存在。
For this reason we are worried that green public works will be no different from a pig sold in a poke and the sums raised by financing will actually be used for taking forward projects not for the purpose of improving the environment and combating climate change . Such concerns do exist
例如填海建造人工島，政府只是以"環 保"作為幌子，"綠色"只是點綴而已。
An example is the construction of artificial islands by reclamation . The Government has taken it forward under the guise of environmental - friendliness and green is nothing more than a decorative touch to it
第三，擬議決議案提出的綠色債券借款所涉及的成本和開支，政府沒有向立法會提供估算。
Third the Government has not provided the Legislative Council with an estimate of the costs and expenses associated with the borrowings raised by green bonds as proposed in the proposed Resolution
政府在動議擬議決議案的演辭第五段說："計劃的開支將按現行機制由基本工程儲備基金支付。
As stated by the Government in paragraph 5 of its speech moving the proposed Resolution Expenses under the Programme will be met by the Capital Works Reserve Fund under the existing mechanism
計劃下初期的發行會以機構投資者為對象，以吸引環球投資者利用香港作為綠色投融資的中心。
The initial tranches under the Programme should target institutional investors to attract international investors to use Hong Kong as a centre for green financing and investing
" 大家要記住，香港人亦要清楚知道，基本工程儲備基金的主要收入來源是地價收入，而發債則涉及支付利息和償還本金。
We should bear in mind and Hong Kong people should have a clear understanding that the main source of revenue of the Capital Works Reserve Fund CWRF is land premium while bond issuance involves payment of interest and repayment of principal
即是說，將來政府賣地所得的收入和儲備，將會有一部分用作支付綠色債券的利息和償還本金。
That is to say part of the proceeds from land sale and reserves of the Government will be used for payment of interest and repayment of principal for green bonds in the future
再者，政府開宗名義，明言綠色債券計劃以環球機構投資者為銷售對象。
Furthermore the Government has made it clear from the outset that the Green Bond Programme targets international institutional investors
代理主席，那麼我們便可以推論，如果擬議決議案獲得通過，香港的地價收入亦即我們的公帑將會透過基本工程儲備基金這個"基建旋轉門"而流出，用作支付世界各地的機構投資者，成為他們的投資回報，這會根本地改變基本工程儲備基金的性質，這使我相當擔心。
Deputy President we may then infer that with the passage of the proposed Resolution the land premium of Hong Kong―namely our public money―will flow through the infrastructure revolving door created by CWRF as the investment return paid to institutional investors worldwide resulting in a fundamental change to the nature of CWRF which worries me a lot
最後一個原因，也是第四個原因，就是政府說明綠色債券的目的是推進香港的綠色金融發展，這與剛才只有郭家麒議員提到的一點相呼應。
The fourth and final reason is the purpose of promoting the development of green finance in Hong Kong by green bonds as stated by the Government which echoes the point raised only by Dr KWOK Ka - ki earlier
在2017年施政報告中，政府說發行綠色債券的目的是推動內地、"一帶一路"沿線以至國際投資者透過香港的資本市場為綠色項目進行融資。
As stated by the Government in the Policy Address 2017 the issuance of green bonds seeks to encourage investors in the Mainland and along the Belt and Road as well as international investors to arrange financing of their green projects through our capital markets
現時全球綠色債券的發行量正加速增長，2017年發行量約為1,608億美元，即超過12,000億港元。
At present the growth in the issuance size of green bonds has been accelerating around the world . In 2017 the issuance amounted to about US160.8 billion or more than HK1,200 billion
更有預測指，2018年今年的發行量可能增至2,500億美元，即接近20,000億港元，升幅超過50%。
It has even been estimated that the issuance this year 2018 may rise to US250 billion or close to HK2,000 billion representing an increase of more than 50 %
中國大陸目前是全球第二大綠色債券市場，在2017年的發行量便達2,486億元人民幣。
Mainland China is currently the second largest green bond market in the world with issuance totalling RMB248.6 billion in 2017
所以，如果擬議決議案獲得通過，最優先和最大的得益者就是中港兩地的金融機構。
Hence with the passage of the proposed Resolution the first and biggest beneficiaries will be the financial institutions of both the Mainland and Hong Kong
我們看到的情況是，基建未興建好，環保效益尚未出現，但對於中港兩地的金融機構，財富便率先滾滾而來。
What we see is that for the financial institutions of both the Mainland and Hong Kong money will keep pouring in well before any infrastructure or environmental benefit comes along
如此一來，綠色債券整件事情的本質便浮現了，就是重金融，輕環保。
In that case we will get to the heart of the whole matter concerning green bonds in which finance is put before environmentally - friendliness
因此，如果政府的擬議決議案獲得通過，將會根本地改變基本工程儲備基金的本質，原本撥予香港公共工程的款項，包括公路、渠務和建築物等就會成為一條財路，成為全球金融機構的投資對象；香港的地價收入，包括賣地所得，就會以綠色為名讓金融界發大財。
In view of the foregoing the passage of the Governments proposed resolution will fundamentally change the nature of CWRF . The funding originally allocated to Hong Kongs public works including highways drainage and buildings will become a money - spinner and a target of investment by financial institutions worldwide . The financial sector will net itself a huge fortune from Hong Kongs land premium including the proceeds from land sale in the name of green
我擔心會出現兩種情況：第一，未來日子將會有更多更大規模的基建工程，包括一個又一個的人工島填海工程計劃；及第二，在財務上，政府開通一條"地產─基建─金融"的資金流，以香港的土地收入作擔保，興建"大白象"基建為手段，保證全球投資者長期獲得穩定的投資回報，這其實會無止境地鞏固地產和金融霸權。
There are two scenarios that worry me . First there will be more infrastructure projects of an even larger scale in the days ahead including endless reclamation works projects for the construction of artificial islands . And second financially the Government will produce a real estate―infrastructure―finance capital flow to ensure a stable and long - term return for international investors with Hong Kongs land revenue as guarantee and the construction of white elephant infrastructure as its means which will actually reinforce the perpetuity of real estate and financial hegemony
代理主席，所以，香港市民應有更多時間，要求政府解釋清楚及提供更多資料，然後才把擬議決議案提交立法會讓我們表決，從而堵塞當中的漏洞。
Hence Deputy President members of the public in Hong Kong should be given more time to request a thorough explanation and more information from the Government before the proposed Resolution is presented to the Legislative Council for us to vote so that its loopholes can be plugged
所以，代理主席，我支持朱凱廸議員提出的中止待續議案，香港人的財政儲備絕對不應成為一道假借1,700公頃人工島填海工程之名以燃燒儲備的"隨意門"。
For this reason Deputy President I support the adjournment motion proposed by Mr CHU Hoi - dick . The fiscal reserves of Hong Kong people should never become a convenience door leading to exhaustion of our reserves under the guise of the reclamation works for the 1 700 - hectare artificial islands
根據《立法會條例》動議的議案。
Motion under the Legislative Council Ordinance
有意發言的議員請按下"要求發言"按鈕。
Members who wish to speak please press the Request to speak button
主席，在2017年4月28日內務委員會會議上，議員決定成立小組委員會，研究6項有關港珠澳大橋交通安排的附屬法例。
President at the meeting of the House Committee on 28 April 2017 Members agreed to form a subcommittee to study six items of subsidiary legislation relating to the traffic arrangements for the Hong Kong - Zhuhai - Macao Bridge
本人謹以與港珠澳大橋交通安排相關的技術性法例修訂小組委員會主席身份，動議議案，將該6項附屬法例的審議期限延展至2017年6月14日，讓委員有充分時間審議該6項附屬法例。
In order to allow sufficient time for the Subcommittee to scrutinize the six pieces of subsidiary legislation in my capacity as Chairman of the Subcommittee on Technical Legislative Amendments on Traffic Arrangements for the Hong Kong - Zhuhai - Macao Bridge I move that the scrutiny period of the six pieces of subsidiary legislation be extended to 14 June 2017 . President I so submit . RESOLVED that in relation to the― a Road Tunnels Government Amendment No
現在的待議議題是：陳恒鑌議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you That the motion moved by Mr CHAN Han - pan be passed
我認為議題獲得功能團體選舉及分區直選產生的兩部分在席議員，分別過半數贊成。
I think the question is agreed by a majority respectively of each of the two groups of Members that is those returned by functional constituencies and those returned by geographical constituencies through direct elections who are present
主席，這個命題最重要的一點就是，這些同性伴侶的身份地位，是否應提升至與親屬一樣。
Chairman the most important point of this proposition is whether or not the capacity or status of a same - sex partner should be elevated to that of a relative
但是，當他們的身份提升至跟親屬一樣的話，作為一名香港立法會議員，是否應該認真想清楚，這個建議會否衍生甚麼社會問題？
However if their capacity is elevated to that of a relative should I as a Member of the Legislative Council seriously consider whether or not this proposal will give rise to any social problems?
好像我們的同事陳志全議員般，他很勇敢地"出櫃"，我很尊重他，我覺得沒有問題。
Like our colleague Mr CHAN Chi - chuen he has come out with great courage . Not only do I treat him with great respect but I do not see any problem with him
同性戀者都是人，是香港人，我們尊重他們。
Homosexuals are humans as well as Hong Kong people . We respect them
不過，在香港社會，我們應該包容這類人士，還是鼓勵他們這類行為呢？
However should we accommodate these people or encourage their behaviour?
我相信社會應該討論。
I believe discussions should be conducted in society
這項議題涉及同性婚姻，香港很多宗教團體，或者一些支持一夫一妻制的人士，經常來向我們表示很擔心，不知道日後如何教導小孩，因為他們一向拿着書本告訴小孩，一個家有爸爸、媽媽及孩子。
It is because same - sex marriage is involved . Many religious groups in Hong Kong and some supporters of the institution of monogamy often express great concern that they do not know how to teach children in future because they have been telling children and showing them books that there are a father a mother and children in a family
他們表示，現在外國的圖書寫的已經是公主跟公主結婚，王子跟王子結婚。
However they say that things have changed in overseas countries with story books depicting a princess marrying another princess or a prince marrying another prince
在小孩三四歲、四五歲的時候，已經將這樣的信息灌輸給他們。
Children are already indoctrinated with such messages when they are aged between three and five
主席，我經常說，一個成年人作出甚麼選擇，我們要尊重。
Chairman I often say that we must respect any choice made by an adult
後天的意思就是，身邊人的影響，以及社會和輿論的影響，最後導致一個人由異性戀變成同性戀。
What I mean is the influence of people around them society and public opinion will eventually turn a person from a heterosexual into a homosexual
所以，香港市民期望繼續堅持一夫一妻制的傳統，還是沒有所謂，我想大家有需要很認真地討論這個問題。
Hence I think there is a need for the people in Hong Kong to seriously discuss whether they wish to cling to the traditional institution of monogamy or they have no preference
我相信香港市民都不會同意。
I believe the people of Hong Kong will disagree
這項《條例草案》隱蔽地認同同性婚姻在香港的地位。
The Bill recognizes the status of same - sex marriage in Hong Kong in a covert manner