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今天容海恩議員提出的議案，以及大部分議員的發言，目的也是想替小商戶發聲，希望保留社區內的小店。
Today the motion proposed by Ms YUNG Hoi - yan as well as the remarks made by most Members aim to speak up for the small shop tenants hoping that small shops can be preserved in the communities
就這方面，我看到不同黨派的立場也是一致的，所以，我們實在沒有必要在這事上互相攻擊。
In this connection I have seen that different political parties and groupings share the same position . Therefore it is indeed unnecessary for us to attack each other insofar as this issue is concerned
立法會應該一致對外，向領展提出嚴正抗議。
The Legislative Council should stand united to make a solemn protest against Link REIT
我特別想指出，在運頭塘邨商場這事上，我認為領展既然已將商場出售，而迫遷的是新業主，那麼，即使我們在這裏如何責罵領展也沒有甚麼用，因為它可以說已經將商場出售，現在的事情與它再沒有關係。
I wish to point out in particular that on this incident concerning the shopping centre of Wan Tau Tong Estate since Link REIT has already sold this shopping centre and it is the new owner who forced the shop tenants to leave I think it is useless no matter how we criticize Link REIT here because it can say that it has already sold the shopping centre and whatever happened after the sale has nothing to do with it
事實上，運頭塘邨商場並不是單一事件，我們看到的是一種趨勢，正如剛才也有同事說，現時的情況是越來越多商場被領展出售。
As a matter of fact the shopping centre of Wan Tau Tong Estate is not an isolated incident . What we have seen is a trend . As colleagues also said earlier the situation now is that more and more shopping arcades are put up for sale by Link REIT
所以，我們現在要考慮的是如何對抗領展這些做法，因為我們要保障小商戶。
Therefore what warrants our consideration now is how to counteract these practices of Link REIT because we have to protect the small shop tenants
到了今天，我們除了一如部分同事所說般應要求領展承擔社會責任之外，最重要的是如何加強屋邨的商業競爭力。
As things have come to the present state apart from calling on Link REIT to take up its social responsibilities as some colleagues have suggested it is most important to identify ways to upgrade the business competitiveness of public housing estates
大家也知道，如果是一盤獨市生意，價格一定昂貴。
We all know that a monopolized business surely levies expensive prices
事實上，我們看到有些屋邨本身是一個小社區，政府在設計這個小社區時為社區增設一個小商場，所以市民的衣、食、住、行等大部分也依靠這個商場，某程度已是一種壟斷。
In fact we have seen that some public housing estates are themselves small communities and when designing a small community the Government will provide a small shopping centre for this small community . Therefore the residents will rely on this shopping centre to meet their basic necessities and most aspects of living and this to a certain extent already constitutes some sort of monopolization
所以，我認同原議案提出，我們不應該被一些現有的模式局限。
In this connection I agree with the proposal in the original motion proposing that we should not be confined by the existing modes or patterns
我們應該想一想如何在一個屋邨內開闢多一些空間，提供其他形式的商業活動，而不是局限於商場內。
We should think about how more spaces can be made available in a public housing estate for the provision of other forms of business activities rather than being limited to within a shopping arcade only
我們說的空間，不一定要很大，亦不需要有固定的檔口，也可以在某些屋邨先行試驗，例如我們看到有些地方舉辦天光墟，這也是十分好的提議。
These spaces that we are talking about do not necessarily have to be very large in size nor is it necessary to provide fixed stalls . Trials can be done in certain public housing estates as a start . For example we have seen that morning bazaars are set up in some places and this is a very good proposal
我們可以在屋邨推行一些試驗計劃，如果效果良好，便可以推展至其他屋邨或屋苑。
Pilot schemes can be implemented in some estates and further extended to other estates or courts if good results are achieved
張炳良局長可能覺得這樣很難做，會產生很多問題，又或這些屋邨很多固定地方已有既定用途，如果舉辦天光墟，高局長又會提出小販、黑社會、環境衞生等一大堆問題，但我們是否因為這些雞毛蒜皮 的問題而不去做呢？
Secretary Prof Anthony CHEUNG may consider it difficult to do so and hold that many problems may arise or as many of the fixed places of these estates already have specified uses and if morning bazaars have to be set up Secretary Dr KO may caution us about the emergence of a great many problems such as those concerning hawkers triads environmental hygiene and so on . But should we refrain from taking actions because of minor trivial problems?
我想大家也很清楚。
I believe Members have a clear idea about all this
事實上，購回領展所需的是天價，也是不實際的做法。
In fact it takes a sky - high price to buy back Link REIT and it is not a practical option either
我們應該採用一些比較實際，而且又便宜的方法來解決領展的問題，而不是一開始便用最昂貴、最愚蠢的方法。
We should solve the problem concerning Link REIT in more practical less expensive ways rather than adopting the most expensive most foolish way right at the beginning
所以，任何方案只要是有效益和較購回領展便宜的，我覺得兩位局長也必須考慮。
Therefore I think both Directors of Bureau must take into consideration any proposal which is effective and less expensive than buying back Link REIT
此外，我想藉此機會提出另一個可以考慮用作解決領展壟斷的方法。
Moreover I wish to take this opportunity to suggest for consideration another solution to the monopolization by Link REIT
現時有些新屋邨會興建在舊屋邨附近，又或是在進行重建項目時，新建屋邨的商場鋪位可以容許舊屋邨商戶優先申請遷入，讓他們可以用一個更為合理的價錢，繼續經營街坊生意。
Currently some new public housing estates are built in the vicinity of old estates or in the course of redevelopment shop tenants of the old estates may be given priority in applying for removal into the shop premises in new estates in order that the old shop tenants can at a reasonable price continuously carry on their business to serve the local residents
代理主席，雖然我們一直聽到坊間有聲音要求購回領展，但我們要實事求是。
Deputy President although we have all along heard voices in the community calling for a buy - back of Link REIT we have to be pragmatic
現時購回領展等於用納稅人的錢來補貼股市炒家，這是否可取的做法呢？
Buying back Link REIT at this time is tantamount to subsidizing speculators in the stock market with taxpayers money . Is this a desirable approach?
因此，我覺得應該盡量製造一個有競爭的營商環境，令領展不能坐地起價，也可以為市民提供多一個購物選擇。
Therefore I think we should create a competitive business environment by all means to restrain Link REIT from increasing the prices arbitrarily and this can in turn provide the public with an another choice of shopping
對於我們提出的建議，政府通常都回應說很困難和無法做到，但我相信這是技術問題，不是無法解決的問題。
As for our proposals the Government will more often than not say in response that their implementation would be difficult and impossible but I believe this is a technical problem not an unsolvable problem
最重要的是政府和兩位局長有心為居民提供多一個選擇，並且正視領展壟斷的問題。
The key lies in the Government and the two Directors of Bureau being genuinely committed to providing an additional choice to the residents and addressing squarely the problem of monopolization by Link REIT
所以，我希望兩位局長稍後可以有比較正面的回覆，不要一開始便對我們說"不可以"。
In this connection I hope that the two Directors of Bureau can give a more positive reply instead of saying No to us right at the outset
主席，正如很多同事所說，領匯房地產投資信託基金)2005年11月上市之後，營運手法不斷偏離最初上市的原意。原意是透過上市改善商場或街市的管理，或是解決香港房屋委員會當時經營或財政上的問題。
President as pointed out by many Honourable colleagues subsequent to the listing of The Link Real Estate Investment Trust in November 2005 its business practice has persistently deviated from its original purpose of improving the management of shopping arcades and markets or resolving through listing the operational or financial problems facing the Hong Kong Housing Authority HA at that time
然而，偏離了原意之後，領展慢慢迅速異化成為香港的"歲月神偷"，以其獨大的霸權力量，透過不斷加租，甚至拒絕續約，11年來不斷偷走每個屋邨的集體回憶、街坊與商戶之間經年月累積的人情味、基層市民選擇廉價消費的權利，換來的只是集團式經營的超市、酒樓、快餐店、時裝店等。
After deviating from its original purpose however Link REIT has gradually experienced a morbid change and turned into a thief in no time . Given its dominance and through its repeated attempts to increase rents and even refusals to renew tenancy agreements Link REIT has over the past 11 years stolen the collective memories of each and every public housing estate the human touch developed among kaifongs and shop operators over the years and the right of the grass roots to choose inexpensive spending . Instead only supermarkets restaurants fast - food shops and boutiques operated by groups can now be found
最諷刺的是，我在數年前曾收到一本由領展寄出題為"我們的尋味時光"的小冊子。
Ironically I received a couple of years ago a booklet entitled 我們的尋味時光The Tastes sent by Link REIT . With nostalgia as its theme the booklet introduces the delicacy of some of the long - established shops in the shopping arcades under Link REIT
事過境遷，目前最重要的是向前看，研究怎樣制衡領展獨大的現象，讓市場回歸健康的競爭。
What is more DAB opposes its business practice of maximizing profit . Now all that is history and the circumstances are different it is most important to look forward now and examine how best to counteract the market dominance of Link REIT so as to restore healthy competition in the market
所以，我很支持容海恩議員及柯創盛議員的提議。
Hence I support the proposals put forward by Ms YUNG Hoi - yan and Mr Wilson OR
民建聯今年5月曾約見政務司司長，要求新成立的競爭事務委員會就領展的經營及運作模式有否違反《競爭條例》進行深切調查，並因應結果採取跟進行動。
During its meeting with the Chief Secretary for Administration in May this year DAB requested that the newly set up Competition Commission conduct an in - depth inquiry into whether the business practice and modus operandi of Link REIT had contravened the Competition Ordinance
我希望局長稍後在答辯的時候，會就這項要求的進展，作出回應。
I hope the Secretary will give a response in relation to the progress of the request in his reply later on
剛才我亦聽到很多同事表示，希望購回領展一部分股份或全數購回整個領展，但這其實是一種單純的做法。
Just now I heard many colleagues express their hope of buying back some of the shares of Link REIT or the entire Link REIT which is actually a very simple idea
正如劉業強議員剛才所說，如果我們在此打"開口波"，明言要求政府購回領展，相信以商業原則經營、做法一貫是"賺到盡"的領展一定會把股價不斷抬高，甚至會在市場裏引起波動。
Just as Mr Kenneth LAU pointed out just now if we make an explicit request here for the Government to buy it back I believe Link REIT which is commercially operated with maximizing its profit as its long - standing principle will definitely keep pushing up its share prices or even trigger fluctuations in the market
以特區政府現時的財政狀況，要動用一筆龐大的金錢，相信亦會引起很大的爭議。
Given the current fiscal conditions of the Government I believe a great controversy will arise should an enormous sum of money be spent
為了制衡領展獨大的局面，我認為政府與其斥巨資購回領展的控制權，不如參考原議案所提出的建議，在領展商場及街市附近適當的地點設立臨時街市，或舉辦墟市，甚至在今後興建的公屋項目中都應該設立街市，引入競爭，讓市民有更多的消費選擇。
In order to counteract the market dominance of Link REIT I would suggest that the Government make reference to the proposals put forward in the original motion rather than spending an enormous sum of money on buying back a controlling stake in Link REIT in setting up temporary markets or bazaars at suitable locations near the shopping arcades and markets under Link REIT or even providing markets in future public housing developments in order to introduce competition and provide the public with more choices of spending
儘管我剛才提到設立街市或墟市，但如果一些出現區域性壟斷的地區沒有適當的地方興建這些設施，我希望政府可以考慮策略性地購買領展現時發售的一些項目。
Although I mentioned the setting up of markets or bazaars just now if there is a lack of space for the construction of these facilities in some districts which are subject to regional monopolization I hope the Government can consider strategic buyouts of some projects currently put on sale by Link REIT
我希望張炳良局長稍後可以對此回應，會否考慮改變這些空間的用途，成為售賣乾貨或零售場所。
I hope Secretary Prof Anthony CHEUNG can give a response later regarding whether or not consideration will be given to changing the purposes of these spaces and turning them into outlets for selling dried items or retail
這是一個可以考慮的建議。
This proposal is worth consideration
最後，我希望政府透過引入更多競爭，使領展減低租金，讓市民有更多選擇。
Lastly I hope the Government can through introducing more competition prompt Link REIT to reduce rents and thus provide the public with more choices
領展違背承諾，令市民相當憤怒，這亦是社會上早已有的共識。
That Link REIT has broken its promises is a consensus long since reached in the community and the public are angry about it
至於本會議員，我們今天的發言亦應槍口一致對外，但楊岳橋議員仍採取其一貫作風，在發言中"抽水"。
As for the Members of this Council we should be united on the same front when we speak today . However Mr Alvin YEUNG as a matter of his usual style took advantage of others in making his remarks
他提到東薈城戲院結業的情況，指周浩鼎議員早前承諾跟進，但跟進的結果就是戲院結業。
He mentioned the closure of the cinema at Citygate claiming that Mr Holden CHOWs earlier promise to follow up the case had ended up with the closure of the cinema
因此，民建聯的地區工作十分實在，他"葡萄"我們也沒有意思，他應反求諸己，看看自己有何不足而作出改善，無須在此肆意攻擊別人。
Hence the district work of DAB is very practical . It is meaningless for him to turn green with envy . He should identify his own inadequacies through self - reflection and seek improvement rather than attacking others arbitrarily
此外，鄭松泰議員提到我們在長發街街市罷市事件上所做的一切。
Moreover Dr CHENG Chung - tai mentioned what we had done in the strike staged at Cheung Fat Market
民建聯希望協助商戶進行他們的抗爭，同時亦希望可以促進雙方對話。
DAB hoped to help the tenants to stand up for their rights yet it also wished to facilitate both sides in entering into dialogue
因此，在商戶罷市期間，我曾安排讓商戶和領展有機會對話，雖然雙方最終談判破裂，但我們也是盡心盡力的。
Hence during the strike of the tenants I had arranged an opportunity for dialogue between the tenants and Link REIT . Though the negotiation eventually broke down we had tried our best wholeheartedly
我甚至約見了食環署署長，多次要求食環署加快公布現時公眾街市空置檔位的情況，讓有關商戶可以在其他公眾街市中找到新檔位。
I had also met with the Director of Food and Environmental Hygiene and made repeated requests to the Food and Environmental Hygiene Department FEHD for expeditious announcement of availability of vacant stalls at public markets hoping tenants affected could find new stalls in other public markets . In this connection Dr CHENG Chung - tai pointed an accusing finger at DAB for helping the tenants to go on strike which eventually led to closures
第二，領展曾承諾把其物業作長期投資。
Second Link REIT has promised to make its properties long - term investments
可是，事實上，領展對於得來全不費工夫的公共資源，從沒有好好愛惜。
Yet in reality Link REIT has failed to take proper care of the properties it took over effortlessly
這問題在以服務屋邨為主的鄰里商場或社區商場特別顯著。
This problem is particularly obvious for neighbourhood or community shopping arcades serving public housing estates
領展"搞死"商場後，乾脆要錢不要貨，以殺雞取卵的方法開始出售商場，致令市民無法購物。
When Link REIT has caused the death of these shopping arcades it simply goes for the money instead of keeping the assets like killing the chicken to get the eggs and starts selling these shopping arcades
可是，領展最後竟利用規定中的豁免條款，違背其不出售車位的承諾，以致現時車位業權分散，變得難以管理。
Regrettably Link REIT eventually exploited the exemption clauses in the requirements to break its promise of not divesting car parks . As a result the ownership of parking spaces becomes fragmented and the management difficult to handle
新的業主採用新的經營模式，包括取消傷殘人士平時享有的四折優惠，令原本使用車位的人士突然失去車位，一些職業司機失去車位更不知如何是好。
New owners adopt new operation models which include the cancellation of 60 % discount concession used to be provided to persons with disabilities and implementation of measures rendering car park tenants losing their original parking spaces suddenly . In fact to certain professional drivers they really do not know what to do when they lose their parking spaces
因此，在車位問題上，領展也令市民相當不滿。
Hence Link REIT has aroused a lot of grievances among the public in respect of car parking facilities
當我聽到這個消息時，我還以為小市民終於戰勝領展，終於令領展屈服。
When I heard the news I thought the public had eventually won Link REIT over and Link REIT had finally compromised
近年，車位的價格相當昂貴，而領展的車位亦不斷加價，甚至較同區其他商場的價格昂貴，所以我希望政府除了處理領展的街市和商場問題外，亦要處理車位的問題。
In recent years the prices of parking spaces are very high . The prices of spaces in Link REIT car parks keep rising which may be higher than prices of parking spaces in other shopping arcades in the same district . For this reason I urge the Government to address the issues of car parking facilities in addition to the problems with markets and shopping arcades under Link REIT
代理主席，我謹此陳辭，支持容海恩議員的議案。
With these remarks Deputy President I support Ms YUNG Hoi - yans motion
當然，這些都是可以考慮的方法，但似乎未必可以"遠水救近火"。
Certainly these are approaches that merit consideration but they seem to be distant water which cannot put out the fire nearby
當然，我的建議未必經完全充分成熟的考慮。
Certainly my proposal may not have undergone thorough and mature consideration
我即管嘗試將這概念說出來。
Let me try to spell out this idea
現時，政府大約佔港鐵公司70%股權，有時可以利用其股權的優勢，令領展採取某些決定。
At present the Government holds about 70 % of the shares of MTRCL . Sometimes it may use its dominant stake to make MTRCL come to certain decisions
能否將這項優惠擴大至每個周末及周日？
Can this concession be extended to every Saturday and Sunday?
在深水埗北河街，我曾經品嘗6元一碗的豆腐花，非常超值。
I once tried a bowl of bean curd pudding for 6 in Pei Ho Street in Sham Shui Po which was a mega - bargain
這個構思當然需要再加以思考，但正如現時領展利用龐大的資產，在無綫電視推出一個名為"街市遊樂團"的電視節目，我們又是否 可以利用港鐵公司的優勢，推出一些更大的優惠，來制衡另一個"魔爪"，以子之矛，攻子之盾呢？
This idea certainly needs further consideration but as Link REIT has now used its enormous resources to air a television programme called Bazaar Carnivals on TVB Jade can we make use of the advantage of MTRCL to introduce greater offers to contain the other evil using the two evils to counteract each other?
希望當局可以考慮這是否一個可行的方向，或優化這方案。
I hope the authorities will consider whether this is a feasible direction or enhance this proposal
主席，我想提出的第二點，就是"沒辦法之中的辦法"，我們一定不能夠再失守。
President the second point I would like to make is what we should do when there is no other alternative . We must not lose any more control
有說法指優惠租金沒有考慮到管理費、保養成本、恆常開支等，政府已經一一澄清，這說法根本完全不合理，因為他們訂定優惠租金時，已曾考慮這些問題。
It has been alleged that the rental concessions did not take the management fees maintenance costs regular expenses etc . into account . The Government has already clarified them one by one
因此，我促請政府繼續警醒地處理這方面的事宜，有任何風吹草動，我們就要像對付那些違反宣誓承諾的同事那樣，應該採取法律行動時，就要馬上這樣做。
Hence I urge the Government to stay vigilant in dealing with this matter . Once there is any sign of any problem we should immediately take legal action when it is the right thing to do like the way we deal with those Honourable colleagues who violated the oath - taking requirements
對付"魔爪"或好像領展這種"大魔頭"，更需要採取法律途徑，如果能夠做到，便一定要爭取時間去做。
To deal with evil clutches or monsters like Link REIT we need all the more to resort to legal proceedings . If it is workable we must lose no time in doing so
主席，餘下1分鐘時間，我想把焦點略為放大。
President in the remaining one minute I would like to slightly enlarge the focus
試想一下，一名CEO可以在去年的財政年度獲得年薪3,500萬元，實在是"大魔頭"，而10多名董事共分得7,000多億元薪金，這是怎樣的回報呢？
A CEO could receive an annual salary of 35 million in the last financial year . What a monster! . And more than 10 directors shared a total of some 700 billion as their emoluments
我希望傳媒亦在各方努力，即使在資本主義社會中無法在法律上打擊這種情況，但最低限度在道德上，也要譴責這種"魔頭"的首腦繼續伸展魔爪......
What kind of return is that? . I hope the media will also make their efforts on various fronts . Even if we cannot tackle such a situation by law in a capitalist society at least in terms of morals we need to condemn the culprit behind such a monster for continuing to extend the evil clutches
主席，對不起，我想根據《議事規則》第383條澄清，因為我剛才發言時有一點被誤解，我想澄清。
My apologies President . I would like to give an explanation under Rule 383 of the Rules of Procedure because in my speech earlier there was one point which was misunderstood . I wish to clarify it
去年12月至本年6月，扶貧委員會就退休保障進行公眾參與活動。
From December last year to June this year the Commission on Poverty CoP conducted a public engagement exercise on retirement protection
同期，有不少民間團體另行舉辦多場諮詢會，亦有學術機構進行民意調查，其間共收集到約18000份意見書，大部分民意均支持採用免經濟審查的全民退保方案。
At the same time quite a number of community groups separately held a number of consultation forums and some academic institutions conducted opinion surveys during which a total of about 18 000 submissions were received and a majority of the public views supported the implementation of a universal non - means - tested retirement protection option
另外，上屆立法會的退休保障事宜小組委員會曾就此議題進行多次公聽會，並於今年7月提交報告，促請現屆政府在任期內制訂退保的具體執行方案。
On the other hand the Subcommittee on Retirement Protection of the last Legislative Council held a number of public hearings on the matter and submitted its report in July this year urging the incumbent Government to formulate a concrete execution plan for retirement protection within its term of office
政府會如何收納和討論這個方案？
How is the Government going to incorporate and discuss this proposal?
我的補充質詢是：局長剛才也提及預留了500億元來推行全民退休保障，究竟這500億元現時打算如何運用？
My supplementary question is The Secretary also mentioned just now that 50 billion had been set aside for the implementation of universal retirement protection so what is the plan on using this 50 billion?
第一，這500億元突顯出本屆政府的決心、誠意和承擔，顯示政府是重視此事的。
First this sum of 50 billion underlines the determination sincerity and commitment of the current - term Government and shows the importance attached by the Government to this matter
我們在有方案和大方向，以及知道應該如何走這條路之後，我們須向財務委員會提出申請，並正式取得財委會的批准，屆時我們會向大家全盤交代，因為這是與有關的方案和方向息息相關的。
After we have come up with a plan and the overall direction and know how to travel down this road we have to make an application to the Finance Committee and obtain an approval from it so we will brief Members in due course as this matter has a close bearing with the relevant plan and direction
如何動用這些資源、如何動用這筆預留的款項，須視乎方向和方案，因此，我們在本屆政府任期完結前會向大家交代。
On how to utilize the resources or the earmarked money it all depends on the direction and the proposal . In view of this we will give Members a briefing before the end of the term of this Government
主席，我想重申一點，政府在退休保障方面是高度重視，而且有承擔的。
President I wish to reiterate one point . The Government attaches great importance to retirement protection and is committed to it
政府亦希望在任內在我們尚餘的時間內能夠得出清晰的路向，向大家作出交代。
The Government also hopes that within its term that is in the remaining time a clear direction can be identified and an account can be given to Members
主席，我們現在的時間表是在年底前，獨立顧問顧名思義，既然是獨立顧問，我們須給它空間來運作，我們不是指示它做功課的但合約規定必須在年底前提交報告。
President our present timetable is that by the end of this year the independent consultant―as the term shows since the consultant is independent we must give it room to operate and we do not tell it how to do the assignment―but the contract specifies that a report must be submitted by year end
在收到報告後，我們必定會第一時間在扶貧委員會作交代，因為是扶貧委員會作主導的，也會提交福利事務委員會。
After receiving the report we will definitely brief CoP at the earliest opportunity as CoP plays a leading role and the report will also be submitted to the Panel on Welfare Services
今天已經是11月23日，我想問在1個月內是否能夠提交報告？
Today is already 23 November . May I ask the Secretary if a report can be submitted within one month?
主席，我們無法提供確實日期，但我剛才已經重申，在下月底，即年底，在12月內必須提交報告，因為我們也須處理這件事。
President we cannot provide a specific date but I have already reiterated that by the end of next month that is by the end of this year or in December the report must be submitted because we must also deal with this matter
主席，雖然諮詢期已過，但據了解，坊間對建議方案也有很多不同的意見，更在諮詢期內提出建議，修正諮詢文件內的方案。
President although the consultation period has ended as far as I know the public have many views on the proposals and they even put forward proposals during the consultation period to revise the proposals set out in the consultation document
此外，羅致光博士亦提出了"年金"的想法，可見這次退休諮詢未夠全面。
In addition Dr LAW Chi - kwong also proposed the idea of annuity payment so it can be seen that this public engagement exercise on retirement protection is not sufficiently comprehensive
我想問當局會否考慮坊間的建議，再提出修訂方案？
May I ask if the authorities will consider the communitys proposals and put forward a revised proposal?
若會，具體時間表為何？
If the answer is in the affirmative what is the specific timetable?
在主體答覆內也提及，在我們接獲的18,000多份意見書當中，不單止是討論每月向長者提供一筆所謂現金津貼，而是還有很多其他事情，包括年金、逆按揭、安老按揭，亦提及其他支援，其實是多元化和多樣化的。
It is also mentioned in the main reply that the issues raised in the more than 18 000 representations received by us is not just confined to the provision of what is called a cash subsidy to the elderly each month rather many other matters were also raised including annuity payment reverse mortgage and other types of support . In fact they are multi - faceted and diverse
因此，我們希望我們提出的建議和方向能夠顧及各方面，包括議員剛才提及的民間意見，這些我們必定會一併考慮。
In view of this we hope that the proposals and directions put forward by us can take into account various aspects including the views of the public mentioned by the Member just now . We will surely consider all of them at the same time
主席，我想問局長是否記得在4年前，即2012年，也是大概這個時間，當局就長者生活津貼向財委會申請撥款，惹起很大爭議。
President I would like to ask the Secretary if he remembers that four years ago that is in 2012 and also at about the same time of the year the authorities applied to the Finance Committee for funding for the Old Age Living Allowance OALA and a great deal of controversy was aroused
我們要求不設資產入息審查，建制派也覺得那個資產上限過於嚴苛。
We demanded that no means test be introduced and the pro - establishment camp also considered the asset limit to be too harsh
當時局長承諾先推出，兩年後再檢討。
At that time the Secretary undertook to introduce OALA first and conduct a review two years later
那麼，你便是"走數"了，即長者生活津貼的資產上限在本屆政府任期內不會檢討和放寬。
In that case you have back - pedalled that is the asset limit of OALA will not be reviewed and relaxed within this term of the Government