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主席，第二個我希望提出的觀點就是，正如我開首時所說，現在整個邏輯是一種國際競爭，爭奪生意的邏輯。
President the second point I would like to make is that as what I have said at the beginning the entire logic here is a kind of international competition a scramble for business
而這個邏輯剛才也有議員提到，我想再跟進一點。
This logic has been pointed out by some Members and I would like to speak further on it
過去，香港不時有報道有關離岸避稅天堂的新聞，例如巴拿馬文件揭發，原來我們的司長都有開離岸公司進行財務調整，我們不要說他避稅。
In the past it has been reported in Hong Kong from time to time news on tax havens . The Panama Papers for instance have revealed that our Secretary also engaged in financial adjustment―let us not call it tax evasion―with the establishment of an offshore company
但是，現在反過來，這《條例草案》根本鼓勵這些公司不需要在香港運作，亦不需要跟香港市民或空間有實際關係，因為他們的飛機不需要停泊在這裏，而是四處飛行。
But now contrary to our views the Bill actually encourages these companies not to operate in Hong Kong not to develop real connections with the people nor the territory of Hong Kong as these globe - flying aircraft need not park here
即只是借香港的身份和我們的稅務制度，令他們享有較低的稅率，並且向外表示：我已繳納香港稅項，可以這樣做。
That is to say they just make use of the identity and tax regime of Hong Kong so as to enjoy a lower tax rate on top of telling others that I am entitled to do this as I have paid Hong Kong tax
現在我們問，究竟我們做這件事的時候，除了金錢之外，有沒有其他目標呢？
We now ask What targets do we have other than making money when we do this?
然後，又正如陳志全議員所說的減價戰，而這個減價戰，完全配合國際跨國資本的流動，好像有些雀鳥在天空中飛來飛去，我們抓着其中一隻，便有好處。
And the debate just like what Mr CHAN Chi - chuen has said is also about a price war one which goes along with the flow of international capital perfectly . It is like birds gliding in the sky and we should try catching one for our own good
主席，這是一種很"離地"的想法，政府沒有實際地問清楚，一個這麼特別的政策，究竟背後是否有相關產業的想法作支持？
President such a consideration is highly disconnected from life given that the Government has not asked in a practical way whether this very special policy is supported by deliberations on relevant industries
有沒有相關的教育政策支持？
Is it grounded in the relevant education policy?
主席，對我而言，香港最迫切的問題，如果就着這個環節來說，第一，就是氣候變化問題。
President with regard to the present session the most pressing issues in Hong Kong to me are first climate change
究竟政府可否說服本會，這個稅務減免，會與全球減排配合，抑或不是？
Can the Government convince this Council that this tax concession goes hand in hand with global carbon reduction? . Or does it run contrary to the reduction?
行業的蓬勃發展，會增加全球碳排放，從而令氣候變化惡化。
When this industry flourishes carbon emission increases and thereby worsening the climate change
政府必須說清楚，這項策施有否針對，不止是香港，更是全球面對的問題。
The Government must clearly explain how this measure addresses this problem which faces not only Hong Kong but also the whole world
第二，就是貧富懸殊的問題。
Second the wealth gap
現在堅尼系數是0.539。
The Gini Coefficient now stands at 0.539
政府推出這個稅務特別安排，如果你要說服我或者香港市民的話，你便要告訴我們，是否有了這個稅務寬減後，香港市民，特別是一般基層市民，可以從中得到更好的生活，貧富懸殊是否可以得到紓緩呢？
If the Government wants to convince me or the people of Hong Kong when launching this special tax arrangement it must tell us whether this concession allows the Hong Kong people especially the common grass - roots citizens to live better and suffer less from the wealth gap
如果不是的話，我看不到有任何理由，我們要脫離我們所謂的簡單低稅制，現在是政府要離開這個簡單低稅制。
If not I cannot see why we have to turn away from the so - called low and simple tax regime . It is now the Government who is departing from this low and simple tax regime
主席，政府現正將稅制複雜化，而這個複雜化的方向，跟我剛才說的兩個目標背道而馳。
President the Government is now complicating the tax system . And the direction of this complication runs contrary to the two goals I mentioned just now
第一、這個方向沒有解決氣候變化問題；第二、沒有解決貧富懸殊問題。
First this direction does not tackle the climate change . Second it does not close the wealth gap
相反，將稅制複雜化，令跨國財團可以在香港，借香港的名義，不是借這個地方，而是借這個名義來......
On the contrary this complication of the tax system allows transnational consortium to use Hong Kongs name not this place but our name only to let me borrow an analogy from our colleagues to allow those who have earned too much those who are too fat to put on socks themselves to earn further
如果我們要走這一步的話，將會好像同事所說，會產生一個不能夠收拾的漏洞。
If we take such a step like what our colleagues have said an irreparable loophole will be created
所以，我反對這項《條例草案》。
Therefore I oppose this Bill
首先，我根據《議事規則》第83A條申報，我是本地航空公司的受聘員工。
First of all I would like to declare under Rule 83A of the Rules of Procedure that I am an employee of a local airline company
我本身並不具有財金背景，亦非飛機租賃業務背景的專長人士。
I do not have any background in financial and monetary affairs and am not a specialist in aircraft leasing business
不過，我始終是屬於航空界的人士，所以有些誤會想跟大家解釋清楚，而這亦會直接影響這次法例修訂工作。
Nevertheless I am after all working in the aviation sector and would therefore like to clarify some misunderstandings which I think would have direct impacts on the current legislative exercise
例如有同事指大陸航空公司可在香港上市，然後把飛機租給自己，從中取利，這是通過是項修正案後可做到的事情。
For example some colleagues opined that after passage of the proposed CSAs Mainland airlines listed in Hong Kong can reap profits by leasing aircraft to their own subsidiary companies
並不是在香港上市的公司就是在香港營運。
The fact that a company is listed in Hong Kong does not necessarily imply that it is operating its business here
若要在香港營運，必須取得民航處發出的航空營運許可證。
In order to operate business in Hong Kong a company has to obtain an Air Operators Certificate AOC issued by the Civil Aviation Department
最後，我想補充一點，唯獨有一點我反覆研究良久，那就是何謂"有關連者"？
Finally I would like to add that there is only one question which I have been examining over and over again and that is What is the meaning of connected person?
就此我找不到"有關連者"的確切意思，除了第14G條略有說明之外，我不肯定其定義為何。
In this connection I do not think the exact meaning of connected person has been set out in the Bill and apart from the general description contained in the proposed section 14G I am not sure about its concrete definition
所以，我希望局長稍後發言時可就我剛才提出的問題，解釋一下何謂"有關連者"，以及如何確保不會被人濫用相關條文。
Therefore with regard to the question I raised just now I hope the Secretary will respond in his speech later by explaining the meaning of connected person and the ways to ensure that the relevant provisions will not be abused
最後，我重申若在《條例草案》二讀時予以支持，在沒有這些修正案的情況下，剛才所說對國內航空公司有利的安排，其實已經可以做到。
Lastly let me reiterate that once the Bill has been passed when it was read the Second time it has already become possible for Mainland airlines to take advantage and make the arrangements mentioned just now even without the proposed CSAs
我必須重申一點，在香港上市的航空公司，並不代表其在香港的業務可以受惠，因為剛才已很清楚說明，若要被界定為香港業務，必須在香港領有航空營運許可證，這正是捷星航空當天希望取得卻得不到的東西。
I have to state it clearly once again that although an airline company is listed in Hong Kong it does not necessarily imply that its business here in Hong Kong can be benefited because as I have clearly explained earlier a company has to obtain an AOC issued here before it can be defined as operating its business in Hong Kong . This is exactly what Jetstar Airways have tried to obtain years ago but without avail
主席，我之前已申報，我是本地一家航空公司聘請的員工，但是，就着這條《2017年稅務條例草案》，我是不應該有任何或間接的得益。
President as I have declared before I am an employee of a local airline but the Inland Revenue Amendment No . 2 Bill 2017 the Bill should give no direct or indirect interest to me whatsoever
我重申一點，我支持《條例草案》及所有相關修正案。
I reiterate my support for the Bill and all the amendments
當然，他們會有一些提問，例如會否出現一些剛才不少議員提到的情況，即利用《條例草案》逃稅、避稅。
Of course they have raised certain questions like the possibility of using the Bill for tax evasion as mentioned by numerous Members earlier
我想帶出一點，雖然我花了這麼多時間，但有些事情，我的確看漏了眼。
I would like to bring up a point . Despite having spent much time on the Bill I do have missed certain matters
多謝政府的提醒，讓我找回遺漏之處，釋除我其中一個最大的疑惑，就是相關人士的問題。
I thank the Government for helping me on this omission and on resolving one of my major queries regarding the issue of connected person
主席，說來說去，我覺得當中存在一個誤會，我們先分清兩部分，一部分是租賃公司，另一部分是承租人，不論是航空公司還是營運者。
To start with we have to distinguish two questions . First the leasing companies . Then the lessees regardless of whether they are airlines or aircraft operators
我們要先搞清楚這兩部分。
We have to be clear about these two first
香港現行稅制不會阻止任何人在香港成立任何公司，而這項《條例草案》，不論有沒有，可能是剛才所說的最大爭議部分，就是政府提出了修改，關乎是否容許出租飛機予香港本地航空公司。
The existing tax system in Hong Kong does not prohibit anyone from setting up any companies in Hong Kong . As far as the Bill is concerned without regard to whether such prohibition is in place the biggest controversy surrounding our discussion is the Governments latest amendments to propose expanding the scope of aircraft leasing to include activities concerning local airlines in Hong Kong . Let us put this aside by now
原因在於，當時的判決指，他們的業務或管理不是完全在香港。
The judgment then stated that the airline did not conduct all business or management activities in Hong Kong
同一道理，他們如喜歡在香港開設飛機租賃公司，我們阻止不了。
Equally we cannot stop anyone from establishing an aircraft leasing company in Hong Kong
正如我之前所說，香港現有公司的業務並非在香港。
As I have said earlier existing companies in Hong Kong do not conduct business in the city
我必須重申，是並非在香港。
I must reiterate not in Hong Kong
因此，對香港而言，我們本身付出的投資非常低。
So Hong Kong merely needs to make minor investment in this regard
或者有人說，他們的職員來香港會租辦事處，我們當然明白，但是，這並不是一個大型的投資基建項目。
Some may say that their staff will rent office spaces in Hong Kong . We surely understand this
再深遠一點，香港經營這門生意，是否代表本港的環境沒有問題，卻令外國其他地方的碳排放等出現大問題？
Looking at the question in some depth we may wonder if operating this business in Hong Kong will mean that we are fine environmentally while worsening the emission problem for instance in other countries?
這樣反而有靈活性，減低全球所需的飛機總數。
This will enhance flexibility which helps to reduce the total number of aircraft globally
如果懂得這樣理解的話，為何不是一件好事呢？
If Members can interpret the picture this way why is this not a good development?
如果飛機租賃繼續擴展下去，靈活性增加，某程度上有點類近大家經常說的"乘車共享車輛"概念。
Should aircraft leasing keep expanding with increased flexibility in this direction the business will become something similar to car sharing frequently discussed nowadays
所以，我要不厭其煩的指出此條例為何對香港利多於弊。
Therefore I really have to repeat time and again why the Bill will bring us more merits than harm
總括來說，正如我剛才所說，我支持此項《條例草案》及剛才所說的修正案。
All in all as I have stated earlier I support the Bill and the above mentioned amendments
我不會再容忍你繞圈子。
I will not tolerate your beating about the bush anymore
當然，局長表示不會出現這情況，因為政府提出這項稅制改變前，已做了很多工夫和預測。
The Government surely says that this will not happen explaining that it has done a lot of preparation and forecast before proposing this change in the tax regime
所以，政府容許的稅制改變與《條例草案》的原意不同，其原意是向境外的營運機構提供稅務優惠，現在則改為境內的營運機構也可同樣受惠，這改變所帶來的影響，其實政府有否深究呢？
Hence the change in the tax regime rendered by the Government is inconsistent with the intent of the Bill . The Bill seeks to provide tax concessions to offshore aircraft operators but now the concessions are extended to onshore aircraft operators . Has the Government actually taken an in - depth look into the potential impacts of this change?
政府有否研究並分析這改變所帶來的影響有多大呢？
Has the Government studied and analysed the extent of the impacts to be brought by this change?
這是我最擔心的問題。
This is my major concern
主席，譚文豪議員剛才提出很多觀點，說明為何支持《2017年稅務條例草案》的三讀，我留意到有3個地方，值得再與他跟進一下。
President Mr Jeremy TAM just raised many viewpoints to explain why he supports the Third Reading of the Inland Revenue Amendment No . 2 Bill 2017 the Bill and there are three aspects which I would like to follow up with him
我想指出，正正因為譚文豪議員徵詢的是業界，對於業界來說，我看不到《條例草案》會帶來任何傷害，為甚麼呢？
I would like to highlight that what Mr Jeremy TAM has consulted is the industry concerned . To the industry I cannot see that the Bill will bring any harm to it why?
我真的認為他說得對，對業界來說，要找到一個反對理由，真是絕不容 易，只有一個可能性，便是他剛才說直接僱用的1,600多人之中，究竟直接僱用的是本地人，還是從香港以外引入的專才呢？會否令他們的就業職位受到影響呢？
I really think he is right in saying that it is absolutely not easy for the industry to find a reason to oppose the Bill . The only possible reason will lie in whether the 1 600 - odd people of direct employment are local people or the talents imported from places outside Hong Kong or in other words whether their job opportunities will be jeopardized
這是不公道、不公平的，為何只是就着某種產業這樣做，其他產業又不是這樣做呢？
Why is it only taking care of a certain industry but disregard other industries?
這才是問題所在。
This is where the problem lies
第二，譚文豪議員說這是一個新產業，要有突破性的發展。
Second Mr Jeremy TAM said that this was a new trade and needed a breakthrough in development
不錯，香港當然需要多一些不同的競爭、不同的產業，以及多元化的經濟發展，這個大家不會反對的，因為事實上，如果在香港未來的經濟發展中再也沒有一些新產業，便會有危險性，為甚麼呢？
It is true that Hong Kong certainly needs more competition from various aspects and among different industries and a diversified economic development . This direction will not meet opposition by people as in fact Hong Kong will be running a risk with the absence of new industries in the future economic development . Why?
因為香港目前的經濟屬泡沫經濟，太着重於金融、地產和服務性行業等，所以除了是泡沫經濟之外，還是依賴性經濟。
It is because Hong Kong is currently experiencing an economic bubble as it attaches too much importance to financial real estate and service industries . Apart from being a bubble economy it is also a dependent economy
如果其他國家經濟不景，香港便會 首當其衝，金融、服務和旅遊行業均依賴其他地方的人前來，否則便無法發展，這是一個問題。
In case of economic depression in other countries Hong Kong will bear the brunt of it as financial service and tourist industries are dependant of people coming from other places otherwise they cannot be developed . This is a problem
所以，發展新產業是好事。
Hence it is desirable to develop new industries
而且正如政府所說的，可以帶來就業職位的增加，有甚麼壞處呢？
As the Government says this can bring about an increase in job opportunities and how harmful is that?
但是，問題是當局如何促進這個產業呢？
However how does the Government promote this industry?
此外，當我們說新產業的時候，這當然是一種嘗試，我剛才也問局長，如何預計成效可以一如理想呢？
Besides when we are talking about a new industry this surely is a new attempt . I just asked the Secretary how to estimate whether the result can be up to expectation
例如當年的郵輪碼頭方案，大家也認為是一種新發展，但很可惜，現時郵輪碼頭的發展是怎樣的呢？
Take the Cruise Terminal proposal as an example . Everyone thought that it was a kind of new development back then . But unfortunately how is the current development of the Cruise Terminal?
原來要改變稅制，把一般的稅制改變。
We have to change the tax regime or change our usual tax regime
我們認為，即使改變稅制也不要緊，只要是公平、公正和合理，這是沒有所謂的，但問題是現在並不公平、公正，這才是另一問題。
In our opinion even changing the tax regime is not a big deal only if this is fair just and reasonable . However the present approach is unfair and unjust and this is another problem
過去一直以來，我們儲蓄了這麼多錢，有100多億元盈餘儲備，而我們的"財爺"怎樣做？
Over the years we have saved a lot of money and our surplus reserve is now over 10 billion . But what has our Financial Secretary done?
多年來，我們賺到這麼多錢，去了哪裏？
Over the years for the lots of money that we have earned where has it gone?
郵輪碼頭不是"大白象"工程嗎？
Is the Cruise Terminal not a white elephant project?
大家要明白一件事，這是一項世界性的經濟活動，如果發展得好，人家怎會不來分一杯羹呢？
We have to understand that this is a kind of global economic activities . If this business is well developed will other places not try to get a share of the pie?
如果我們利誘成功，便變成是對手的失敗，是誰有損失？
Our success in attracting them will mean failure on the part of our opponents . Who will suffer losses?
同樣道理，如果看到香港成功，其他國家又不會考慮這件事嗎？
Likewise if other countries see that Hong Kong is successful in this business will they not consider snatching our business?
我們不知道將來如何發展？
Besides this Secretary is about to leave his position after this term of office and we have no idea how the business will develop in the future
我之前曾問政府，如何訂定基礎？它現在的估計一定能實現？
I asked the Government earlier how the basis was set and how the estimates would turn out as it expected
我剛才形容是賠了夫人又折兵，局長說不會這樣，稅務局已經做了很多工夫，把數據計算出來。
I described just now that it would be throwing the helve after the hatchet meaning that it would suffer a double loss . The Secretary said that it would not turn out like this as the Inland Revenue Department had already done a lot of work to arrive at the figures
但是，最後，我們要賠上一個很重要的改變，就是稅制改變。
However at the end we have to pay a high price of changing our tax regime
我說過，稅制改變都不是一個最大問題，但這是否公平和合理呢？
As I have mentioned a change in the tax regime is not the biggest question but is the change fair and reasonable?
這是否普及，是否大家都同樣享有呢？
Is it universal to the effect that all industries can enjoy the benefits?
所以，我難以支持這種做法。
But it is another picture in reality as the business concerned is narrowly defined and it is thus difficult for me to support this proposal
雖然我不是反對飛機租賃業務，但對於這樣的稅制改革，我覺得很有問題，非常不公平，所以我不贊成。
Although I am not against promoting the aircraft leasing business I find that this reform in the tax regime is very problematic and is very unfair . Hence I will not give my support to it . President I so submit
主席，正如我早前所說，早前所有修訂都是涉及《2017年稅務條例草案》的第5A條，該條很清楚是容許在本地經營的飛機租賃服務，包括飛機使用權或管理法團獲得稅務寬減。
Chairman as I have said earlier all the earlier amendments are related to clause 5A of the Inland Revenue Amendment No . 2 Bill 2017 the Bill . It is clearly stipulated in the clause that the locally operated aircraft leasing services including the business of granting a right to use an aircraft or the business of managing a corporation will be eligible for tax concessions
主席，如果你說魔鬼在細節，這就是最重要的。
Chairman if you say the devil is in the details it is the most significant one
飛機租賃服務與飛機航空公司是一門相當複雜業務，並涉及巨額金錢。
The aircraft leasing services and airline companies are highly complicated businesses involving huge capital investment
很多市民或許不明白我們在說甚麼。
I guess many people may not understand what I mean
主席，我們現在向國泰航空或任何一間航空公司購買一張機票，我們想象稅款計算是很簡單的，公司賺取多少，就根據香港的《稅務條例》的利得稅稅率繳稅。
Chairman when we buy an air ticket from Cathay Pacific or any airline we probably think that the profit generated from this transaction should simply be taxed at a profits tax rate stipulated under Hong Kongs Inland Revenue Ordinance . Very little has known that it is not the case . The computation process is incredibly complicated
殊不知不是這樣的，是一個相當複雜的過程，因為很多航空公司已經沒有直接擁有飛機，只透過租賃服務獲得飛機以提供服務，當中服務所訂立的水平、簽訂的合約甚至背後的"金主"，我們很多時候都未必知道，甚至無從稽考。
It is because many airlines no longer directly own their aircraft and the carrier service is provided by leased aircraft through leasing services . In this respect we do not know or even we will never know the level of services the content of the agreement and even the money man behind such an aircraft leasing deal . Let me cite a simple example
我舉一個很簡單的例子，由於這些公司很多是上市公司，或透過一些上市的方式，獲得某些資本，又或是上市公司作為飛機租賃公司，它無須透露誰人擁有那間公司，它只是代為管理。
These companies are mostly listed companies . Some of them raised funds in the market by way of listing . Some are managers of aircraft leasing companies which are not required to disclose the owners of the companies
這正正開了一個先例，而我們最擔心的就是有公司利用這種方法，避免繳交正常的利得稅。
This is precisely setting a precedent . What worries me most is that some companies may make use of this arrangement to avoid paying normal profits tax
另一方面，由於一些國際協議的要求，包括經合組織的要求，香港要根據經合協定就BEPS的數個行動計劃，作出回應。
On the other hand in the light of the requirements of some international agreements including the OECD requirement Hong Kong has to respond to the OECD agreement and implement several actions under the base erosion and profit shifting BEPS package
然而，今次稅務寬減的做法可能對BEPS的要求，包括第5項、第6項、第13項及第14項行動計劃背道而馳。
However the proposed tax concessions may contravene some of the BEPS requirements including Action 5 Action 6 Action 13 and Action 14
更恐怖的是，這些做法容許境內的飛機租賃服務或飛機租賃管理商獲得同等的稅務寬減，其實並不是《條例草案》的原意。
What is more horrifying is that allowing onshore aircraft leasing services and aircraft leasing managers to enjoy the same tax concessions is essentially not the original intent of the Bill
我不想估計政府為何在最後階段才提出如此重大的修訂，如果從一個良好的意願，政府都不知道，只是恍然大悟、一言驚醒，被經合組織提醒後就立即修改。
I am reluctant to guess why the Government has not put forward such a substantial amendment until the final stage of our scrutiny work . Perhaps it is out of good intentions . The Government was originally unaware of the OECD requirement
然而，更令我們擔心的是，如果不是這樣的話，而是原來政府早有計劃或計算，得知《條例草案》為了應付或因應經合組織的要求，在《條例草案》審議較後階段始終會將稅務寬減伸延至境內的飛機租賃服務。
On realizing this the Government immediately amended the Bills accordingly . However it would be very worrying if this was rather a planned or calculated move . The Government well understood that to address or in response to the OECD requirement the tax concessions would ultimately be extended to onshore aircraft leasing services at the later stage of the Bills scrutiny work
然而，我曾多次指出，這不應該是運輸及房屋局的事情。
Indeed I have repeatedly pointed out that this should not be the scope of duties of the Transport and Housing Bureau
今次討論的是稅制，如果政府的評估，包括此服務帶來的影響、香港機場的使用、飛機升降等與該局是沒有一個直接關係的話，為何會是運輸及房屋局負責的範疇呢？
Why should it be under the purview of the Bureau if the discussion of the tax regime which includes the forecasts made by the Government on the impact of the services the usage of the Hong Kong airport and the aircraft movements is not directly related to the work of the Bureau?
難道修改稅制及發動或進行有關辯論的時候，不應是由財經事務及庫務局甚至財政司司長作出的嗎？
Is it not the Financial Services and the Treasury Bureau or even the Financial Secretary who should be responsible for amending the tax regime as well as initiating or conducting debate on this?
當然，他講話的對象不是香港人，而是國內的一些行業，當時是2013年12月，他身處天津。
His remark was made in December 2013 when he was in Tianjin so his audience was of course not Hong Kong people but some Mainland industries
然而，我相信特區政府再加上現時的"689"政府我說的不是局長有很多人唯恐不及，聽到李克強總理這樣的提示還不醒目嗎？
Still upon hearing the hint from Premier LI Keqiang I believe that many officials of the SAR Government the current 689 Government―I do not mean the Secretary―are smart enough and cannot wait to make a quick response
知道有錢會流進香港，或中國內地的一些團體、公司或個人希望透過此行業，增加一些財政上的投資。
From the hint they knew that there would be an influx of capital to Hong Kong . In other words some organizations companies or individuals on the Mainland would like to increase their financial investments through this industry
表面上是沒有所謂的，有人來香港投資，當然是求之不得，對嗎？
On the surface it is all right to have inward investment in Hong Kong
不過，世界上有些錢可以見光，有些錢卻是見不得光的，如果有人希望透過融資安排、互相控制的業務安排，甚至將一些"黑錢"變"白錢"，其實飛機租賃是一個很好的途徑。
What more can we ask for right? . But in this world some money can be brought to the light but some cannot . Perhaps in case someone is looking for a funding arrangement or cross - control business arrangement to whitewash their black money investment in the aircraft leasing business is a good option
因為無須審查金錢來源，只要投資一筆錢到公司，由它代買飛機出租，便可以賺取固定收入，而且在利息這麼低的時候，還可以有8厘，甚至10厘回報，相當厲害、相當吸引。
No due diligence will be conducted on the source of funds . You can earn an fixed income with a return of 8 % or as high as 10 % in the current low interest rate environment simply by investing a lump sum of money in the leasing companies which will use your money to buy an aircraft and rent it out . Is it awesome and attractive?
再者，可以把那些不知從何而來的錢變成"白錢"，清清楚楚地存放在一間飛機租賃公司內。
Besides we can whitewash our secret money by openly putting them into an aircraft leasing company
很多時踏出第一步，往後會後患無窮，我剛才列舉一個很簡單的例子，開了飛機租賃這個先例，接着船隻又怎樣呢？
Often when we take the first move it will be no end of trouble in the future . I have cited a simple example just now . Once we set a precedent in the aircraft leasing business what should we do with the vessels?
大家可以看到，自由黨的鍾國斌議員已經明言，為何當局可以對一些中小企如此刻薄，不予理會呢？
We can see that Mr CHUNG Kwok - pan of the Liberal Party has openly questioned why the authorities have been so mean to and with no regard for the small and medium enterprise SMEs
為何租飛機可以獲得特殊安排，是否因為李克強說完之後，特區政府便要唯恐不及的跟尾，樣樣做足呢？
Why the aircraft leasing can enjoy this special arrangement? . Is it the case that the SAR Government cannot wait to follow the remarks of LI Keqiang and get everything prepared for the industry to establish its presence in Hong Kong?
如果有多一位國家領導人說其他話，是否我們屆時又要跟隨北風擺呢？
How about if another State leader makes some other remarks should we have to follow the direction of the northerly wind as well?
北風可能叫我們提供其他稅務優惠，我們 又要跟着走嗎？
Perhaps the northerly wind may ask us to provide other tax concessions . Should we have to tail after them?
"一國兩制"不是這樣走的，而且根據《基本法》，我們有責任維持香港的財政穩健，這些均是重要的。
The one country two systems framework should not be operating this way . Besides under the Basic Law it is incumbent upon the Government to maintain the citys financial soundness
過去20年，我們看到一個令人憂慮的現象，便是香港的資本來源越來越單一化，而投資項目來源也越來越單一化，當中有兩個風險。
These are important . When we look back on the development in the past 20 years we can see a worrying phenomenon of the increasingly homogenous source of funds and of investments in Hong Kong . The homogeneity will put the city at risk in two aspects
第一，當內地資金有一天用盡，我們便失去資金來源；第二，由於市場已適應單一的投資來源，對於其他的市場投資者已經失去競爭能力，這並不是可喜可賀的。
First we will lose our sole source of fund when funds from the Mainland are exhausted one day . Second we are so accustomed to a homogenous investment source that we will lose our competitiveness to investors in other markets . This is not good news to Hong Kong