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當然，如果是以往的立法會，我相信我們是難以如此平靜地討論今次這項條例草案，因為我記得以往只是討論唱國歌時是否需要站立，也會有人不斷"拉布"，又在議會內提出一些很"無厘頭"的問題，讓這些應該獲盡快通過的法例無法通過或被阻撓。
Of course should we be still in the past Legislative Council I believe it would have been difficult for us to discuss this Bill so calmly because as I recall even when we discussed whether we should stand during the singing of the national anthem some Members would keep filibustering and raising inane questions in this Council in order to fail or block those bills that required urgent passage
今天我們的議會回復平靜和理性討論，事實上也是一個相當好的開始。
The resumption of calm and rational discussion in this Council today is in fact a rather good start
所以，我希望《條例草案》通過後，政府在宣傳和推廣教育上做得充足一點；日後若有與國家尊嚴相關的法例修訂時，我希望也可以做得仔細一點，可以一次過做足所有工夫。
Therefore I hope that the Government will make more thorough efforts in publicity and education after the passage of the Bill and do all the work in one go while paying more attention to details in the event of any legislative amendment related to national dignity in future
代理主席，我謹此陳辭，支持《條例草案》。
Deputy President with these remarks I support the Bill
主席，我發言支持《2021年個人資料條例草案》。
President I rise to speak in support of the Personal Data Privacy Amendment Bill 2021 the Bill . Since the onset of black - clad violence in 2019 the community has been plunged into dissension
主席，香港的《個人資料條例》非常落後，我經常說是石器時代的《私隱條例》，多年來一直未能夠與時並進， 加上罰則有欠阻嚇力，打擊面又不大，一直都被詬病為"無牙老虎"。
President the Personal Data Privacy Ordinance PDPO in Hong Kong is very backward . I often say that it is the Ordinance of the Stone Age which has not been able to keep up with the times over the years . In addition owing to the lack of deterrent effect of its penalties and the narrow scope of regulation it has been criticized as a toothless tiger
之前一直已經有例如酒店、航空公司等多間公司泄漏很多顧客的個人私隱，我們還未處理，但到了現在，情況就更加激烈和惡劣。
Previously there has been leakage of personal data of many customers by some companies such as hotels and airlines which we have not yet dealt with but now the situation is even more intense and worse
我們看到自從2019年"黑暴"期間，"黑暴"企圖"攬炒"香港，他們用的其中一個手法，就是對政見不同的人大量"起底"。
We have seen that during the period of black - clad violence in 2019 the black - clad people attempted to mutually destroy Hong Kong and one of the tricks that they used was intensive doxxing against people with different political views
昨日警方的網絡安全及科技罪案調查科的科技罪案組公布，自2019年6月開始，網上湧現大量"起底"行為，受害人的個人資料，包括姓名、電話、身份證號碼、住址、相片、家人資料等，都被人非法披露。
Yesterday the Technology Crime Division under the Cyber Security and Technology Crime Bureau of the Police announced that since June 2019 intensive online doxxing acts have been reported and the victims personal data including names phone numbers identity card numbers addresses photos family members information etc have been illegally disclosed
截至現時，受害人已經超過4,200人，當中包括一般市民、警務人員、主要的政府官員、各級司法人員、律師、立法會議員即包括我們區議員等，受害人和其家人都受到不同程度的滋擾，包括電話騷擾、部分個人資料甚至被利用作為申請貸款、器官捐贈和其他公共登記等。
Up to now there are more than 4 200 victims including members of the public police officers major government officials judicial officers at all levels lawyers Legislative Council Members―ie . including us―District Council members etc . The victims and their family members have been harassed to varying degrees including telephone harassment and some of their personal data have even been used to apply for loans organ donations and other public registrations
主席，我本身都是受害人，但我最關心的，其實是警員和他們的家屬面對尤其惡劣的被"起底"行為。
President I am a victim myself but what I am most concerned about is that police officers and their family members are facing a particularly disgusting behaviour of being doxxed
我們知道最少有3,200多名警員和其家屬的個人資料曾經被公開，連小朋友都不放過，都被人"起底"。
We learn that the personal data of at least 3 200 police officers and their family members have been made public and even children have also been doxxed
那時候，很多警察的家人告訴我們，他們連出門口上學都驚，因為驚一出門口就有人傷害他們的小朋友；小朋友回到學校，因為受到"起底"，又被人欺凌、針對；家長、家屬、"警嫂"收到死亡威脅，保護他們就要申請禁制令，雖然禁制令現時也生效，但已放上網的資料並沒有完全移除。
At that time many family members of police officers told us that they did not dare bringing their children to school for fear that someone would hurt their children as soon as they left home . Some children were bullied and targeted at school because they had been doxxed . The parents family members and wives of some police officers received death threats
個人資料私隱專員是否可以移除所有資料？
In order to protect them injunctions have to be applied for . Although the injunctions are still in effect the data already posted online have not been completely removed . Can the Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data remove all such data?
我們知道，私隱專員說只有七成獲受理，其餘很多都是沒有辦法移除的資料。
We know that the Commissioner has said that only 70 % of the data can be dealt with while most of the remaining data cannot be removed
我們個人真的收到很多這方面的滋擾，我的個人資料現時一直被放上網。
We personally have really experienced a lot of nuisance in this area . My personal data has been posted on the Internet
我除了被人不斷電話騷擾之外，登記器官捐贈又有我的份兒，用我的個人資料登記新型冠狀病毒檢測又有。
In addition to being harassed by phone calls I have been involved in registering for organ donations and my personal data has also been used for registering for COVID - 19 testing services
很多立法會議員的家人被騷擾，家中又被騷擾，有人不斷替他們叫外賣，令到有些議員要搬遷。
Many legislators family members have been harassed . They were even harassed at home with people ordering takeaways incessantly for them . As a result some legislators have to move homes
我本身也曾試過在出外回港的時候，在機場就已經被航空公司和機場的職員即時"起底"，他們在網上通報叫人來"接機"，我在機場不同範圍的活動，都可以即時被追蹤，大家可以看到情況是那麼的嚴峻，當時每一個議員的家人對議員的人身安全都非常擔憂。
I myself was doxxed immediately by the airline and airport staff at the airport when I returned to Hong Kong and they asked people online to come to pick me up . My activities in different areas of the airport could be tracked instantly . As you can see the situation was very severe and the family members of each legislator were very worried about the personal safety of the legislator
他們"起底"的行為是為了甚麼？
What is the purpose of their doxxing behaviour?
其實就是想散播恐懼，想恐嚇對方，讓他們驚，讓他們互相猜忌，他們驚就不敢出聲，希望做到"誰大誰惡誰正確"，他們惡，將對方"起底"，於是他們就可以出聲；那些 被"起底"，被威嚇，驚了，所以就不敢出聲。
In fact they want to spread fear and scare the other party so that people are scared and are suspicious of each other . If people are scared they dare not speak out . They hope to achieve the effect that whoever is powerful and villainous has the say
這樣下去，香港市民便完全沒有自由，沒有發表自己政見的自由，沒有出行的自由，甚麼自由都沒有了，也令到大家對法律和社會秩序失去信心。
Those who are being doxxed are threatened and scared and thus dare not speak out . If this goes on Hong Kong people will completely be devoid of freedom . They will have no freedom to express their political views no freedom to travel no freedom at all and they will lose confidence in law and social order
如果繼續這樣下去，就"攬炒"成功。
If this continues mutual destruction will be successful
所以，一直以來，我們都認為《私隱條例》是要修訂的。
Hence it has been our view that PDPO should be amended
現時政府說修訂整項《私隱條例》要下很大工夫，所以先完成"起底"刑事化。
Now according to the Government since it will take a lot of work to amend the whole PDPO the Government will first finish criminalization of doxxing
"起底"刑事化，就是阻止那些別有用心的人將個人資料武器化，所以，我是非常贊成和支持的。
Criminalization of doxxing is to stop those who have ulterior motives from weaponizing personal data and thus I strongly agree to and support this exercise . This amendment to the legislation has stipulated the offences against doxxing acts
這次條例修訂訂立了如何可以遏止"起底"行為的罪行，分了兩級制，有循簡易程序審訊和可循公訴程序審訊的罪行，我認為是非常合理的，亦賦予私隱專員刑事調查和檢控的權力，因為現在是"無牙老虎"，以後便有少許"牙齒"了。
The offences are under a two - tier structure with the first tier a summary offence and the second tier an indictable offence . I think this is very reasonable . It has also provided the Commissioner with the power of criminal investigation and prosecution because the Commissioner is at present just like a toothless tiger but in the future heshe will have a few teeth
另外，也賦予私隱專員法定權力要求停止披露涉及"起底"行為的內容，即是在網上的資料要被移除，有了這些法定權力，相信可以做到多些事。
In addition the Commissioner is also given the statutory power to stop the disclosure of content involving doxxing behaviour . In other words the relevant data posted online must be removed . With these statutory powers I believe that more can be done
但是，正如我所說，資料上傳了互聯網，可能以後都在那裏，要完全移除在網上的資料是非常艱難，所以，最重要的是必須要有一定的阻嚇力。
However as I said the data uploaded to the Internet may be there forever and it is very difficult to completely remove the data from the Internet . Hence it is most important that the law must have some deterrent effect
雖然她現在被判處監禁三年零九個月，但我們仍然會問：為何這種情形會出現呢？
Although she is now sentenced to three years and nine months of imprisonment we still want to ask Why would such a situation happen?
連政府內部也保障不到個人私隱，可見整個社會，包括政府內部，對個人資料、私隱的保護很不足夠。
When even the Government cannot safeguard personal privacy internally it is clear that our society as a whole including the Government does not provide enough protection for personal data and personal privacy
我認為這次立法是遲來的公義，因為海外很多地方其實都有很多法例保障私隱，以及就"起底"行為作出規管。
I think this legislation is a belated justice because in fact many overseas places have laws to protect privacy and regulate doxxing behaviour . As I have mentioned many times before New Zealand already enacted the Harmful Digital Communications Act in 2015 which makes it an offence to post a digital communication with the intent to cause harm to others
我之前曾多次提出，新西蘭在2015年已經有《有害電子信息法》，規定若任何人意圖發布電子信息的內容是傷害其他人，便已屬犯法；新加坡在2019年提出《防止騷擾法》，建議把"起底"和網絡欺凌納入刑事罪行，犯法的人可被判罰款和監禁；歐盟的《通用數據保障條例》就有"被遺忘權"，容許所有歐洲公民要求網絡公司移除有關被侵權者的負面信息；內地亦修訂未成年人保護法，家長可要求網絡公司刪除被泄露的未成年人的資料。
In 2019 Singapore introduced the Protection from Harassment Act and proposed to criminalize doxxing and cyberbullying with offenders liable to fines and imprisonment . Under the General Data Protection Regulation of the European Union there is a right to be forgotten which allows all European citizens to request online companies to remove negative messages about the infringed person . The Mainland has also amended its Law on the Protection of Minors which allows parents to request online companies to delete the leaked data of minors
雖然現在還有很多不足的地方，但這次修例亦是走出一步。
Although there are still many inadequacies this amendment is a step forward
我很希望政府可以盡快全面檢討和修訂《私隱條例》。
I very much hope that the Government will comprehensively review and amend PDPO as soon as possible . As I said the current legislation is very backward
當人們不應該保存這些資料時，亦應該要有國際標準的銷毀方法。
Besides the victims should also be notified―there is no such an arrangement at present and no one will tell us even if our data are lost . When such data should not be retained there should also be a way to destroy them in accordance with the international standards
我們之前聽到很多人表示，經這次修例後，IT公司、平台便會全部撤走，然後香港人亦會完全沒有言論自由。
We have heard many people say that after this amendment to the legislation IT companies and platforms will all leave Hong Kong and then Hong Kong people will have no freedom of speech at all
第一，已經多次澄清，今天亦證實這些網上平台並沒有撤離香港，而且很多國家其實都有這些法例，這些公司亦習慣了按照這些法例做事。
First it has been clarified many times and is also confirmed today that these online platforms have no intention to leave Hong Kong . Besides many countries actually have the relevant laws and these companies are used to working according to these laws
第二，主席，言論自由和每個人的自由都是有規範的，個人的自由不包括傷害其他人的自由，所以，這次修例是很有必要，而我們是極為支持的。
Second President freedom of speech and the freedom of each individual is regulated and the freedom of an individual does not include the freedom to harm others . Therefore this amendment to the legislation is highly necessary and we strongly support it
在過去幾個月，我很高興看見議員及社會各界都全力支持盡快審議《條例草案》，讓香港特區以本地立法的方式，充分體現國家經修正的《中華人民共和國國旗法》及《中華人民共和國國徽法》的規定、原則和精神，早日完成特區政府的憲制責任。
I am delighted to see that Members and different sectors of society fully supported the expeditious scrutiny of the Bill in the past few months so that the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region HKSAR can fully demonstrate the provisions principles and spirit of the amended Law of the Peoples Republic of China on the National Flag and the amended Law of the Peoples Republic of China on the National Emblem by way of local legislation thereby fulfilling the constitutional responsibility of the SAR Government as early as possible
我之前已經在不同的場合提過，國旗、國徽和國歌是我們國家的象徵和標誌，代表着我們國家的權威和尊嚴。
I have mentioned in different occasions before that the national flag national emblem and national anthem are the symbols and hallmarks of our country representing national authority and dignity
因應實踐中存在的新情況、新問題，國家因時制宜，在去年10月完成修訂《國旗法》及《國徽法》兩部全國性法律，以完善國家象徵和標誌的制度，更好維護國家的形象和尊嚴。
In response to the new situation and new problems found in the course of policy implementation our country adapted to evolving circumstances by completing the amendments to the two national laws ie . the National Flag Law and the National Emblem Law last October so as to improve the system of national symbols and hallmarks and better protect national image and dignity
由於兩部全國性法律早於1997年7月已列入《基本法》附件三，並透過《國旗及國徽條例》以本地立法方式在香港實施，特區政府決定修訂《條例》，以在香港實施這兩部經修正的全國性法律，此做法完全符合《基本法》的規定及"一國兩制"原則。
Since the two national laws have been listed in Annex III to the Basic Law and applied locally by legislation through the enactment of National Flag and National Emblem Ordinance NFNEO as early as July 1997 the SAR Government has decided to amend NFNEO so that the two amended national laws can be applied locally . This approach is in conformity with the requirement of the Basic Law and the one country two systems principle
《條例草案》的立法原則非常清晰，就是必須體現經修正的《國旗法》及《國徽法》的規定、原則和精神，即保障國旗及國徽的正確使用，維護國旗及國徽作為國家的象徵和標誌的尊嚴，使市民尊重國旗及國徽，增強市民的國家觀念和弘揚愛國精神，同時兼顧香港特區的普通法法律制度及實際情況。
The legislative principle of the Bill is very clear that is to reflect the provisions principles and spirit of the amended National Flag Law and the amended National Emblem Law ie . to safeguard the proper use and preserve the dignity of the national flag and the national emblem which are the symbols and hallmarks of our country so as to promote respect for the national flag and national emblem enhance the sense of national identity among citizens and promote patriotism whilst taking into account our common law system and the actual circumstances in Hong Kong
除了不適用於香港特區的條文外，經修正的《國旗法》及《國徽法》其餘大部分的條文已適當地納入《條例草案》。
Except for some provisions that are not applicable to HKSAR the majority provisions of the amended National Flag Law and the amended National Emblem Law have been suitably incorporated into the Bill as appropriate
《條例草案》有3個修訂重點： 第一，明確訂明國旗及國徽的使用規定，包括加入有關參與及出席升國旗儀式的人當守的禮儀、不適當使用國旗或國徽的情況、國旗及國徽的收回處置方式、在指定網站首頁使用國徽圖案等條文。
There are three main amendments in the Bill First making clear the requirements in respect of the use of the national flag and the national emblem including adding provisions to provide for the etiquette to be followed by the persons who take part in or attend a national flag raising ceremony the circumstances at which the national flag or national emblem be used inappropriately the manner of recovery and disposal of the national flags and the national emblems the use of the national emblem design on the home page of designated websites etc
《條例草案》賦予行政長官權力，可就國旗及國徽的收回處置方式，以及在指定網站使用國徽圖案的事宜作出規定，並將有關規定公布。
The Bill empowers the Chief Executive to make and promulgate stipulations in relation to the manner of recovery and disposal of the national flags and the national emblems as well as the use of the national emblem design on designated websites
就國旗及國徽的收回處置方式，市民或活動主辦方將來有責任將破損、污損、褪色或不合規格的國旗及國徽交回各區特定的回收點，由特區政府統一處理。
Regarding the mechanism on the recovery of national flags and national emblems citizens or event organizers will be responsible for returning any damaged defiled faded or substandard national flags and national emblems to designated collection points for central handling by the SAR Government
當然，我們鼓勵市民盡可能重用合規格的國旗及國徽，這樣既可弘揚愛國精神，同時亦符合環保原則。
Of course we encourage members of the public to reuse standard national flags and national emblems as such practice can promote patriotism and is consistent with the principle of environmental protection
第二，加入禁止將國旗、國徽作某些用途的情況，以及釐清侮辱國旗及國徽罪行的條文。
Second adding the prohibitions on certain uses of the national flag and the national emblem and clarifying the provisions relating to offences of desecrating behaviour in relation to the national flag and national emblem
我們的立法原意亦十分清晰，是禁止任何公開及故意侮辱國旗或國徽的行為，這包括發生在現實或網絡世界的行為。
Our legislative intent is very clear that is to prohibit all public and intentional desecrating acts in relation to the national flag and national emblem including acts committed in both real life and on online platforms
為更好反映此立法原意，我們參考了《國歌條例》的草擬方式，將現行《條例》中有關侮辱國旗國徽罪行的條文更清晰化，而刑罰水平則維持不變。
In order to better reflect this legislative intent we have made clearer the original provisions concerning the offense of desecrating the national flag and national emblem by making reference to the National Anthem Ordinance while the level of penalty remains unchanged
第三，就國旗及國徽的教育和推廣作出規定，加強學生及市民對國旗及國徽的認識。
Third providing for the education and promotion of the national flag and national emblem so as to enhance students and peoples understanding
《條例草案》要求教育局局長須就將國旗及國徽納入中小學教育，以及學校每日升掛國旗及每周舉行升國旗儀式的事宜發出指示。
The Bill requires the Secretary for Education to give directions for the inclusion of the national flag and national emblem in primary education and in secondary education as well as matters relating to the daily display of the national flag and the weekly conduct of a national flag raising ceremony
教育局會按現行機制，向學校發出指引，並適時提供相關資源和支援，協助學校落實有關要求。
The Secretary for Education will provide schools with guidelines according to the existing mechanism and offer relevant resources and support duly to help schools implement the related requirements
另外，《條例草案》亦要求本地持牌電視台及電台，須播放宣傳國旗及國徽的政府宣傳聲帶或短片。
In addition the Bill also requires domestic television programme service licensees and sound broadcasting service licensees to promote the national flag and national emblem in the government announcements or materials that are in the public interest
政制及內地事務局正製作有關的政府宣傳聲帶及短片，預計於《條例草案》通過並生效後播出。
The Constitutional and Mainland Affairs Bureau is working on the concerned announcement on public interests and publicity footage which are expected to be aired after the Bill is passed and enacted
總體而言，《條例草案》的根本原則及精神是"尊重"，尊重我們的國家，尊重作為我們國家的象徵和標誌的國旗及國徽，此乃我們國民之義。
Overall speaking the fundamental principle and spirit of the Bill is respect that is to respect our country and respect the national flag and national emblem as the symbols and hallmarks of our country . This is our obligation as the people of our country
就着一些意圖侮辱國旗或國徽、公開及故意作出侮辱國旗或國徽行為的人士，《條例草案》則保留相關刑責和罰則並加以清晰化，予以懲治阻嚇，實乃教懲並重。
Regarding some people who intend to desecrate the national flag or national emblem or commit public and intentional desecrating acts in relation to the national flag and national emblem the Bill has kept the related criminal liability and penalties and has made them clearer in a bid to punish and deter people from committing such acts showing that education and punishment go hand in hand
在法案委員會的審議過程中，我們感謝委員就個別條文及執行細節進行了深入的討論，並表達了不少寶貴意見。
During the scrutiny by the Bills Committee we thank committee members for their detailed discussions and valuable opinions on individual provisions and implementation details
在此，我謹就議員較為關注的條文和事項作出扼要的說明和回應。
I will now give a brief explanation and response on the provisions and matters that Members concern the most
首先，部分議員關注違反指引性條文的規定，會否構成侮辱國旗或國徽的行為，從而觸犯修訂後的《條例》第7條所列有關保護國旗、國徽的罪行。
First of all some Members are concerned that if non - compliance with the directional provisions in the Bill would constitute a desecrating act in relation to the national flag and national emblem and hence commit the offence concerning the protection of the national flag and national emblem listed in section 7 of the amended NFNEO
正如我剛才所說，《條例草案》的其中一個重點是明確國旗及國徽的使用規定。
As I said just now one of the focuses of the Bill is to make clear the requirements in respect of the use of the national flag and the national emblem
就此，為沿用兩部全國性法律的相關安排，《條例草案》加入若干指引性條文，例如不得倒掛、倒插國旗，不得倒掛國徽等。
In this connection the Bill follows the relevant arrangements of the two national laws by incorporating certain directional provisions into the Bill for example a national flag or a national emblem must not be displayed upside down
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：《2021年國旗及國徽條例草案》，予以二讀。
I now put the question to you and that is That the National Flag and National Emblem Amendment Bill 2021 be read the Second time
自政府於2021年7月向立法會提交《條例草案》以來，坊間對《條例草案》作出不少深入討論，而社會各界普遍認同打擊"起底"以保障個人資料私隱的重要性和急切性。
Since the Government introduced the Bill into the Legislative Council on July 2021 there has been more in - depth discussions on the Bill and the community generally recognizes the importance and urgency of combating doxxing in order to protect personal data privacy
事實上，網絡世界無遠弗屆，"起底"訊息很容易憑藉社交平台、網上論壇或通訊軟件等散播，當中往往涉及威脅、恐嚇或具騷擾性的言論，對資料當事人及其家人造成巨大的傷害。
In fact the cyber world is so vast that doxxing messages can easily be spread through social media platforms online forums or communication software and so on . These messages often involve threats intimidation or harassing comments which can cause great harm to the data subject and hisher family
"起底"者善於挑動民眾的情緒和仇恨，以受害人的政治立場評定對錯，試圖搶佔道德高地，甚至以"違法達義"作為藉口，掩蓋惡意"起底"的根本事實，行為卑劣。
Doxxers are good at stirring up emotions and hatred among the public using the victims political stance to gauge what is right or wrong trying to seize the moral high ground and even using the excuse of breaking the law to achieve justice to cover up the fundamental fact of malicious doxxing act; they are really despicable
是次《條例草案》的主要修訂範疇包括：一訂立針對"起底"行為的刑事罪行；二賦予個人資料私隱專員刑事調查和檢控的權力；及三賦予私隱專員法定權力要求停止披露"起底"內容。
The main areas of amendment to the Bill this time around include a to criminalize doxxing acts as an offence; b to empower the Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data to carry out criminal investigations and institute prosecution; and c to confer on the Commissioner statutory powers to demand actions to cease disclosure of doxxing contents
今天我希望就法案委員會上委員關注的議題作扼要回應。
Today I would like to respond succinctly to the concerns expressed by members of the Bills Committee
第一，委員關注"指明傷害"中的心理傷害門檻是否難以確立，並舉例指政治人物心理素質一般較佳，控方或較難證明該政治人物蒙受心理傷害。
First members were concerned about the difficulty in establishing the threshold of psychological harm under the definition of specified harm . They cited the example that politicians were generally of a better mental quality and therefore it might be more difficult for the prosecution to prove that a politician had suffered psychological harm
就此，我們已接納委員較早前在政制事務委員會的意見，在《條例草案》中建議引入兩級制的"起底"罪行，第一級罪行在未獲資料當事人同意的情況下，披露資料當事人的個人資料，只要披露者意圖或罔顧該披露會導致資料當事人或其家人蒙受"指明傷害"，即可構成罪行。
In this regard we have accepted Members earlier comments in the Panel on Constitutional Affairs by introducing to the Bill a two - tier system of doxxing offences . The first - tier offence is an offence for disclosing personal data without the data subjects relevant consent as long as the discloser has an intent to cause any specified harm or is being reckless as to whether any specified harm would be caused to the data subject or hisher family members
第二級罪行則是在第一級罪行的犯罪元素的基礎上，加上對相關資料當事人或其家人造成可證明的"指明傷害"。
The second - tier offence is an offence in addition to the elements of the first - tier offence for a person to disclose personal data which has caused any provable specified harm to the data subject or hisher family members as a result of the disclosure
兩級制"起底"罪行以資料當事人或其家人有否蒙受"指明傷害"去釐定案件的嚴重性，更有效地打擊"起底"行為。
The two - tier offence of doxxing is more effective in combating doxxing by determining the seriousness of the case in terms of whether the data subject or his family has suffered specified harm
《條例草案》中"指明傷害"的定義，與較早前律政司司長向高等法院就禁制"起底"行為所申請的禁制令所採用的用字大致一致。
The definition of specified harm in the Bill is broadly consistent with the wording used in an earlier injunction order filed by the Secretary for Justice in the High Court to curb doxxing
第二，委員指出控方需證明"起底"者有意圖或罔顧該資料披露對資料當事人或其家人造成傷害，或會對檢控構成挑戰。
Secondly members pointed out that the prosecution would need to prove that the doxxer had an intent or was being reckless as to the causing of any specified harm to the data subject or any family member of the data subject by that disclosure which might pose a challenge to the prosecution
就此，我們希望指出控方一般需要向法庭證明被告有意圖犯案，這做法在其他的法例中亦十分普遍，例如在《侵害人身罪條例》中，任何人意圖對他人造成身體嚴重傷害，而以任何方式非法及惡意傷害任何人或導致任何人身體受嚴重傷害，即屬犯罪。
In this regard we would like to point out that it is generally necessary for the prosecution to prove to the court that the defendant intended to commit the offence . This is also a common practice in other legislation . For example under the Offences against the Person Ordinance it would be an offence if a person with intent to cause grievous bodily harm to another unlawfully and maliciously injures any person or causes grievous bodily harm to any person in any manner