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香港十分欠缺家庭友善政策，因此公民黨一直倡議設立7天全薪侍產假，一方面可以減輕產後母親照顧新生嬰兒的負擔，另一方面也可減輕家庭的財政負擔。
Hong Kong is very lacking in family - friendly policies . That is why the Civic Party has been advocating the introduction of a seven - day full - pay paternity leave which can reduce the burden on the postpartum mother to care for the newborn baby and on the other hand relieve the financial burden on the family
根據人力資源經理會會員機構於2017年所進行的一項問卷調查，超過七成受訪僱員認為侍產假應為7天或以上，當中更有三成僱員建議10天、14天或更多日數。
According to the questionnaire survey conducted with the member establishments of the Labour Departments Human Resources Managers Clubs in 2017 over 70 % of the respondent employees considered that paternity leave should be seven days or more . Among them 30 % even suggested 10 days 14 days or longer duration
侍產假應該為僱員應有的權利而非福利，僱員要求享有7天侍產假非常合理，而且的確有這個需要。
Paternity leave should be employees entitlement rather than benefit . It is only reasonable for employees to demand seven days of paternity leave and this need is actually justified
公民黨一直倡議男性員工應該享有7天侍產假，我本人亦以身作則，讓辦事處職員享有7天全薪侍產假，有一名職員的妻子剛巧生了小孩，所以我讓他放取7天侍產假，但除了這7天外，他亦額外申請假期。
The Civic Party has always advocated that male employees should be entitled to paternity leave of seven days . I also personally set an example by allowing my office staff to enjoy full - pay paternity leave of seven days . It happened that a staff members wife had given birth to a child so I let the father take paternity leave for seven days but he also applied for extra leave in addition to those seven days
社會應該一代比一代進步，時代每一刻也在改變，更何況侍產假是勞方應有的權利？
Society should advance from generation to generation and the era is evolving at every moment
每一位男士一生中可能只會向僱主申請放取一次或兩次侍產假，而所說的只是數天時間，試問這能對公司造成多大影響？
How can paternity leave be an exception not to mention that employees deserve this right? . Each man might apply to his employer for paternity leave only once or twice in his lifetime involving only a few days . How much impact could it have on the company?
又有多少僱主會像這位議員般的吝嗇呢？
How many employers would be as miserly as that Member?
事實上，很多國家早已承認侍產假是勞方的應有權利，丹麥、法國設定14天侍產假，芬蘭則設定18天，而瑞典甚至給予父母480天的雙親育嬰假，讓父母可以輪替地照顧子女。
In fact many countries have long recognized paternity leave as a labour right . Denmark and France have introduced paternity leave of 14 days Finland 18 days and Sweden even grants parents 480 days of parental leave so that they can take care of their children in turns
教育局的官方建議是，如果配偶曾經分娩，即使不幸出現非活產的情況，學校員工也可申請侍產假。
The Education Bureaus official recommendation is that where delivery has taken place of his spouse even in the unfortunate event of stillbirth the school staff member may apply for paternity leave
基於這點，我十分希望有關當局研究一下有否修改法例的空間，理順數條相關法例的條文，按相同標準看待流產的情況。
Based on this I very much hope that the authorities concerned will examine whether there is room for legislative amendment so as to rationalize the provisions of several pieces of relevant legislation and treat miscarriage cases by the same standard
民主派早在2014年已經提出把侍產假日數增至7日，可惜遭建制派否決。
Pan - democrats proposed to increase the duration of paternity leave to seven days as early as 2014 but unfortunately it was voted down by the pro - establishment camp
十多年來，7日侍產假只有說的份兒，多虧工聯會數位喜歡"說一套做一套"的議員。
For more than a decade seven - day paternity leave has been just all talk thanks to several Members from the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU who like saying one thing and doing another
工聯會口說支持7日侍產假，但投票結果是不會騙人的。
Members from FTU said they support seven - day paternity leave but the voting result does not lie
在《2018年僱傭條例草案》委員會的會議上，工聯會的何啟明議員、陸頌雄議員、郭偉强議員及黃國健議員一致投下反對票，否決了7日侍產假的建議及把侍產假薪金由五分之四增至全薪的修正案。
At a meeting of the Bills Committee on Employment Amendment Bill 2018 Mr HO Kai - ming Mr LUK Chung - hung Mr KWOK Wai - keung and Mr WONG Kwok - kin from FTU unanimously voted down the seven - day paternity leave proposal and the amendments for increasing the paternity leave pay rate from four fifths of the daily wages to full pay
果然，工聯會任何時候均站在"打工仔"的"對面"。
Sure enough FTU stands opposite to wage earners at all times
本港的出生率持續下降，數據亦顯示，香港的生育率多年來持續下降，2017年只有1.19，位居全球第四低位，原因在於香港嚴重欠缺"家庭友善"的政策。
Data also show that Hong Kongs fertility rate has been falling over the years . In 2017 it was only 1.19 ranking the fourth lowest in the world . The reason is that Hong Kong is seriously lacking in family - friendly policies
七日侍產假既為"家庭友善"的重要一環，不應因為僱主的點點困難我剛才已解釋過他們其實並沒有大困難，因為他們已從稅務優惠方面有所得益當然，如果公司本身已經出現虧蝕，還要再作出這方面的承擔的話，是會有困難的。
Seven - day paternity leave is an important component of the family - friendly policies despite causing a little bit of difficulty to employers . As I explained earlier actually the employers do not have much difficulty because they have already benefited from tax concessions . Of course if a company has already suffered loss and still has to make another commitment in this regard there will be difficulties
代理主席，我發言呼籲大家支持5位民主派議員，包括我、梁耀忠議員、張超雄議員、范國威議員及許智峯議員，提出的共10項修正案。
Deputy Chairman I speak to call on Members to support the 10 amendments proposed by five pro - democracy Members namely Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Dr Fernando CHEUNG Mr Gary FAN Mr HUI Chi - fung and I
《2018年僱傭條例草案》第3條及詳題的修訂，主要是針對增加侍產假日數及其他行文的修訂。
The Employment Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill as indicated by its long title and section 3 mainly seeks to extend the duration of paternity leave and to make other textual amendments
關於侍產假日數，政府剛才已表明，只接受由3天延長至5天，而如果我們不支持的話，便會收回有關修訂。
Regarding the duration of paternity leave the Government has just made it clear that it will only accept an extension from three days to five days . If we do not support such an amendment it will withdraw the Bill
這是一個公然要脅立法會的做法，亦是行政霸道，是一個非常可耻的局面。
This is a blatant threat to the Legislative Council and an indication of executive hegemony . This is really a great shame
至於議員提出的修訂，其實香港工會聯合會的何啟明議員在法案委員會裏提出了一項修訂，由法案委員會主席黃定光議員代表提出。
Speaking of the amendments proposed by Members Mr HO Kai - ming of The Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU had actually proposed an amendment in the Bills Committee to be moved by Mr WONG Ting - kwong Chairman of the Bills Committee on behalf of the Committee
而且，現在5位議員所提出的修正案，種種不同形式都有，你們大可以選擇。
Also these five amendments proposed by Members cover various aspects . You may make your own choice
所以，我很希望工聯會和建制派的議員支持我們提出的修正案。
So I very much hope that Members from FTU and the pro - establishment camp will support the amendments proposed by us
首先說一說我所提出的第一項修正案。
To begin with let me talk about my first amendment
我這項修正案是多項修正案當中最溫和的了。
This is the most moderate among the various amendments
我的建議是以一次過立法的方式，分兩個階段實施延長侍產假的目標。
I propose enacting the legislation on extending paternity leave in one go and implementing the extension by two phases
這是一個漸進的改革方案，亦非常務實，是既 尊重勞工顧問委員會的決定，照顧大家的顏面，又能夠達成我們目標的一個最可行的方案。
This is a proposal for progressive reform and it is very pragmatic . On the one hand it shows our respect for the decision made by the Labour Advisory Board LAB and saves everyones face; and on the other hand it provides us with the most feasible way to attain our goal
這個方案已經照顧到政府所說，他們在勞顧會裏跟勞方和資方討論很久才得出的一個共識。
This proposal actually takes into account the consensus reached at LAB after prolonged discussion by representatives of employers and employees as claimed by the Government
我現在跟隨這共識，我們通過這法例，立即實施5天侍產假。
We now act in accordance with the consent and enact legislation to implement five days paternity leave immediately
但是，它亦具有前瞻性，一次過立法，漸進式改革，有一年時間讓政府、讓工聯會、讓工會一起遊說僱主代表，令他們有足夠心理準備，人事安排的準備、財務安排的準備，然後一年後才改為7天。
The proposal is also forward looking bringing about a progressive reform by enacting the relevant legislation in one go . During the one year transitional period the Government FTU and other trade unions can work together in lobbying representatives of employers . Employers will thus be well - prepared psychologically and relevant personnel and financial arrangements can be made before paternity leave is extended to seven days one year later
這做法亦滿足了大部分工會、勞工階層及大多數市民的期望。
What is more this approach can meet the aspirations of most of the trade unions workers as well as the majority of the public
剛才，工聯會的麥美娟議員也提到他們進行過一些調查，而其實大多數工會和工人都希望延長侍產假。
Earlier Ms Alice MAK of FTU mentioned that they had conducted some surveys . In fact most of the trade unions and workers hope that paternity leave can be extended
五天"收貨"，但更加希望有7天。
While five days paternity leave is acceptable it is even more preferable to have seven days
既然如此，為甚麼不可以支持我的修正案，一次過立法，分階段實施？
This being the case why cant they support my amendment of enactment of legislation in one go and implementation by phases?
我跟你性別有差異，但是，在侍產假的問題上，你們也是要求7天，你們現在沒有理由"打斧頭"、打折扣，5天也"袋住先"。
While our genders are different we both demand seven days paternity leave . There is no reason for Members to accept a compromised extension and pocket five days paternity leave first
其實，如果3年多前，工聯會支持我就《2014年僱傭條例草案》提出的修正案，我當時也提出7天侍產假，不過，當時民建聯、工聯會及建制派議員"縮骨"，沒有支持我的修正案，否則，我們便不需在3年後，即現在再次討論這議題。
Actually three years ago I proposed seven days paternity leave in my amendment to the Employment Amendment Bill 2014 but DAB FTU and other pro - establishment Members did not have the backbone to give support . If FTU had supported my amendment we would not have conducted the present discussion over this very issue again three years later . Come to think about this
大家想一想，如果現在我們在政府脅迫下又就範，5天都"袋住先"，然後，其實工聯會還是要繼續爭取，民主黨也不會放過政府，都會繼續爭取。
Even if we now give in under the Governments threat and pocket five days paternity leave first FTU will still press on with the fight and the Democratic Party will not let the Government get off the hook or stop fighting for the target
結果還不是每隔數年或每隔一年，大家又重新討論這議題，因為目標未達到，當然繼續向政府爭取。
That means we will end up discussing this issue again every other year or every few years as our target has yet been attained . As a matter of course we will continue to take up the issue with the Government
這樣其實是浪費我的時間、浪費政府時間，亦浪費議會時間。
This is indeed a waste of my time the Governments time and the Councils time
所以，我認為要辯論的道理每隔數年又再提出，說來說去其實都 是那些內容，不如集中精神把它一次做好，再分階段執行，然後我們便可以集中時間討論其他事項，例如醫療改革、教育改革和房屋問題等。
Instead of debating the issue and repeating the same points once every few years we should concentrate our efforts on settling the issue in one go and implement by phases . As such we can focus on discussing other matters such as health care reform education reform and housing problem
有很多議題我們都需要處理和立法，包括食物安全和食水安全法等。
There are so many issues that we need to deal with and to enact legislation on for example food and drinking water safety
一次過立法，由3天增至5天，1年後才增至7天，讓中小微企有足夠時間適應。
In one go we legislate for an increase of paternity leave from three days to five days and then to seven days a year later . This will allow sufficient time for micro small and medium enterprises to adapt to the change . In the light of that I hope Members will support my amendment
所以，我很希望大家可以支持我的修正案，而如果你們認為我這項如此溫和的修正案也無法支持，我也很希望你們會支持立即一步到位，把3天增至7天，我不介意大家投票支持該方案的，但我相信你們沒有guts，敢投票支持它，所以我才會提出這修正案，多給你們一個選擇的機會。
If you do not support my amendment which is very moderate indeed I hope you will support the amendment seeking to extend paternity leave from three days to seven days in one step . I do not mind if you vote in favour of that proposal . However I believe you do not have the guts to vote for it and that is why I propose this amendment to give you one more choice
其實，我今天對於建制派議員是有很多期望的，雖然這些期望經常會落空。
Actually today I have great expectations of pro - establishment Members though these expectations often fall flat
我都知道你們似乎是身不由己的，沒有自由意志能夠在議會內，按照自己的期望和理性的政策分析作出自主決定，你們的自主可能是被政府取走了，又或是被工會的領導取走了。
I know that you probably have your hands tied and have no free will to make independent decision based on your own aspirations and rational policy analysis . Your autonomy may have been taken away by the Government or by leaders of your trade unions
我不知道今次是否共產黨要求你們工聯會不可投票，抑或是政府說不准你們那樣投票呢？
I am not sure whether it is the Communist Party or the Government which demands Members from FTU not to vote in favour of the amendment
你們究竟有否自主性？有否自由意志？
I just wonder if you have the autonomy or free will to make a decision
即使不支持許智峯議員、梁耀忠議員、范國威議員和其他議員的修正案，也該支持由我提出的這個最溫和的改革方案。
Even if you do not support the amendments proposed by Mr HUI Chi - fung Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Mr Gary FAN and other Members you should support my reform proposal which is the most moderate
代理主席，今天放在大家眼前的選擇就是：第一，跟從政府，怕了羅致光局長，3天增至5天便收貨，但"收貨"、"袋住先"之後，沒有提到會在何時作檢討。
Deputy Chairman today we are faced with the following choices . First accede to the Governments proposal and yield to Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong ie . accept an increase of paternity leave from three days to five days
那好吧，第三，是我的修正案，我認為是最折衷、最務實的方案，全面照顧各持份者的考慮。
As for the third choice that is my amendment I consider it the greatest compromise and the most pragmatic proposal fully accommodating the concerns of all stakeholders
先推行5天，1年後自動增至7天，一次過立法，然後再分階段實施，是一個漸進、務實的做法，亦無須每隔一年半載，或三五七年後又再回到立法會，讓大家重複這些已經討論多次的論據，這樣，大家就可以聚焦做好其他事情。
Starting from five days the duration will automatically be increased to seven days one year later . This change will be legislated for in one go and its implementation will be completed by phases . So this is a progressive and pragmatic approach
代理主席，我謹此陳辭，呼籲大家支持我第一項修正案。
In this way we can focus our efforts on handling other matters . Deputy Chairman with these remarks I call on Members to support my first amendment
如果我的修正案不獲通過，那懇請大家捍衞勞工權益，捍衞家庭友善政策，作出人性化的決定，支持其他民主派議員的修正案。
If it fails to get passed I implore all of you to make a humanized decision and support the amendments of other pro - democracy Members so as to defend labour rights and interests and family - friendly policies
代理主席，我感謝多位議員參與有關延長侍產假的修正案的辯論。
Deputy Chairman I would like to thank Members for participating in the debate on the amendments seeking to extend paternity leave
首先，我想回應麥美娟議員。
First of all I wish to respond to Ms Alice MAK
其實，把話說得很難聽的是她所屬的工聯會的何啟明議員，我希望她敦促工聯會議員做好爭取勞工權益和婦女權益的工作，不要在議事廳內出言侮辱女性。
Actually the one who uttered offensive words was Mr HO Kai - ming of The Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU to which she belongs . I hope she will urge Members from FTU to do a good job of fighting for labour rights and womens rights and refrain from saying anything to insult women in this Chamber
坐在你們旁邊的民建聯陳恒鑌議員剛才也嘗試替你們解圍，說他不太同意工聯會議員用"姣婆守唔到寡"一語在議會內侮辱女性。
Mr CHAN Han - pan of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB who is sitting beside you people tried to save you people from embarrassment just now saying that he did not quite agree with the remark made by an FTU Member that a promiscuous woman cannot remain a widow to insult women in this Chamber
我沒有"獅子開大口"要求有14天或1年的侍產假，也沒有說要推翻勞工顧問委員會就5天侍產假達成的共識。
I am not voraciously demanding that paternity leave should be 14 days or one year nor am I saying that the consensus on five days paternity leave achieved by the Labour Advisory Board LAB should be overturned
如果議員不支持比較進取的7天侍產假建議其實這也載於工聯會的政綱，而民主黨的政網同樣載有此點可以支持我比較保守的修正案。
If Members do not support the more aggressive proposal of seven days paternity leave―actually this is part of FTUs manifesto as well as part of the Democratic Partys manifesto―they can support my amendment which is more conservative
老實說，工聯會的同事不應把民主黨當作敵人，在這種有關勞工階級的議題上，大家應攜手合作，盡快督促政府落實侍產假。
To be honest my Honourable colleagues from FTU should not treat the Democratic Party as their enemy . Regarding such an issue relating to the working class Members should join hands in expeditiously urging the Government to implement paternity leave
好了，我又談談何啟明議員。
Okay let me talk about Mr HO Kai - ming again
我記得他有小孩他也很想爭取7天侍產假，但是在巨大壓力下，他剛才卻說了一些不該說的話。
I remember that he has a child―he is also eager to strive for seven days paternity leave but under huge pressure he uttered some improper words just now
這樣是一次過立法，分兩次"落袋"，多好！
This is a one - off legislative exercise which allows benefits to be pocketed separately in two stages
他不應扭曲我善良的意願，以及我與他們一起爭取侍產假這項如此正面和偉大的行動。
How nice! . He should not distort my goodwill and my intention of taking such a positive and great action to strive for paternity leave together with them
我並非如鍾國斌議員剛才說的"獅子開大口"。
Unlike what Mr CHUNG Kwok - pan said just now I am not making a voracious demand
如果政府說這絕對不行，政府是否真的太過麻木不仁？
If the Government says that this is absolutely out of the question is the Government really too apathetic?
所以，我希望大家支持我的修正案。
I thus hope that Members will support my amendment
梁耀忠議員，你是否想再次發言？
Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung do you wish to speak again?
新加坡設有兩周侍產假，台灣則有長達6個月的有薪親職假。
Singapore offers two weeks of paternity leave and in Taiwan people can take as long as six months of paid parental leave
我們是立法會，現正進行立法。
We in the Legislative Council are now enacting laws
究竟是勞顧會立法，還是立法會立法呢？
Is LAB or the Legislative Council empowered to enact laws? . Obviously LAB is a consultative body
顯而易見，勞顧會是一個諮詢架構，主席是勞工處處長，而勞顧會成員是政府委任的，雖然當中包括5名由主要僱主商會提名的委員，以及5名由僱員工會選出的委員，加上兩名由局長委任的委員，但其實誰控制勞顧會呢？
Its Chairman is the Commissioner for Labour and LAB members are appointed by the Government . Among its members five are nominated by major employer associations five are elected by employee unions and two are appointed by the Secretary . But who is actually in control of LAB?
相對於我、梁耀忠議員、范國威議員和許智峯議員提出的修正案，黃碧雲議員的修正案較為保守，但方向大致一致，所以我會予以支持，稍後我會解釋原因。
Comparatively speaking Dr Helena WONGs amendment is a bit more conservative than my amendments as well as that of Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Mr Gary FAN and Mr HUI Chi - fung . However as the overall direction of all our amendments is the same I will throw my support and explain the reasons in a while
我和其他議員提出將侍產假由3天增至7天，而非政府建議的5天，是因為我們考慮到幾個問題。
The aforesaid Members and I have proposed extending the three - day paternity leave to seven days instead of five days as proposed by the Government due to a number of considerations
第一，5天侍產假是否足夠？
First of all is a five - day paternity leave sufficient?
由此可見，第三個問題的答案很清楚。
The answer to the third question is thus clear
答案是在各方面皆有好處。
Yes there will be benefits in different areas
第四個問題是，把侍產假由3天增至7天，是否具有民意基礎？
The fourth question is Is the extension of paternity leave from three days to seven days supported by the public?
第一，把侍產假由3天增至5天是否足夠？
First is it enough to extend paternity leave from three days to five days?
我們身為議員又是否應該反映市民的意願？
Should we being Members reflect the peoples will?
政府這種態度，完全不尊重立法會。
Such attitude shows that the Government has no respect for the Legislative Council at all
范國威議員，你是否想再次發言？
Mr Gary FAN do you wish to speak again?
如果我們有能力做好一點，便應該這樣做。
We should do better if we have the ability to do so
這是荒天下之大謬。
This is the most absurd thing in the world
是為了做應聲蟲或勞顧會的橡皮圖章嗎？
Are we supposed to be yes - men or the rubber stamp of LAB?
議員負責監察政府；政府法案要經立法會通過才完成立法。
Members are responsible for monitoring the Government; and government bills have to be approved by the Legislative Council before the legislative procedure is completed
政府自行設立一個諮詢架構，討論出一個既定立場後提交立法會，接着表示諮詢架構已經作出商討，立法會不能修改。
The Government has itself put in place a consultative framework under which a predetermined stance had been agreed upon and subsequently introduced to the Legislative Council . The Government has subsequently indicated that the Legislative Council cannot amend the Bill because it has been discussed under the consultative framework
政府還高聲說他們反映民意，希望推動社會向前大踏步。
The Government has even said loudly that they reflect public opinions and hope to enable the community to make big strides forward
如果政府今天的論述成立的話，我們以後都無須就任何法案提出修正案。
If what the Government said today is implemented it will no longer be necessary for us to propose amendments to any bills in the future
作為議員，我如何履行我的天職？
As a Member how can I discharge my inherent duties?
更荒謬的是，政府企圖用一種諮詢架構凌駕立法會。
More ridiculously the Government has attempted to use a consultative framework to override the Legislative Council
政府可以，我們作為立法會議員當然也可以。
While the Government is entitled to do so so are we in our capacity as Legislative Council Members of course
對於那些荒謬、威脅立法會要隨意撤回《條例草案》的言論，我予以譴責，我亦要清楚奉勸一句，請建制派不要再這樣做，請他們"生性"些。
I denounce the preposterous remarks threatening to arbitrarily withdraw the Bill from the Legislative Council . I would also like to tender the pro - establishment camp a piece of advice Please refrain from doing the same thing again and please grow up a bit
我希望藉此機會向羅致光局長稍作回應。
I hope to take this opportunity to respond briefly to Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong
主席，如果大家曾聆聽我過去6年來在這議會內就有關經濟、勞工議題的發言，甚至表決意向，便會知道我是經濟右派的支持者，但就勞工權益的議題而言，則不應分經濟左派或右派。
Chairman if Members have listened to my speeches on the economy and labour issues in this Council over the past six years and have even taken note of my voting intentions they should know that I am a supporter of the right - wing economics . However on the issue of labour rights and interests no differentiation should be made between left - wing and right - wing economics
然而，我想將這論點推展至更高層次，談談社會的整體生產力：究竟僱員的生產力是否與其工作時數成正比呢？
Nevertheless I wish to raise this argument to a higher level by talking about the overall productivity of society . Is the productivity of employees proportional to their working hours?
我認為不會，兩者亦沒有必然的因果關係。
I do not think so . There is no absolute causal relationship between the two either
其實未必排行在世界前列位置。
In fact they may not necessarily rank among the highest in the world
反觀香港，許多不同的研究均顯示，香港的僱員工作時數長，但為何香港的生產力竟然偏低呢？
In contrast many different studies show that Hong Kong employees have long working hours but why is Hong Kongs productivity so low?
我不談距離香港較遠的歐美國家或地區，且看我們鄰近的國家或地區，例如日本。
Let us not talk about the situation in Europe and America which are far away from Hong Kong; instead let us look at our neighbouring countries or regions such as Japan
原來在日本，新生孩子的父親可以向公司申請1年的育兒假，而且可以領取部分的薪金，但其實即使日本的僱員享有這 種福利，他們也未必想全數放取有關假期。
It strikes me that fathers of newborn babies in Japan can apply to their companies for one year parental leave on half pay . However even though Japanese employees can enjoy such a benefit they may not want to take all their entitled leave
據2017年日本厚生勞動省的調查報告顯示，原來只有5%的新生嬰兒父親申請放取育兒假，而且這5%當中，他們平均申請放取的育兒假日數為5天至10天。
According to a survey conducted by the Japanese Ministry of Health Labour and Welfare in 2017 only 5 % of fathers of newborn babies applied for parental leave and among them the average number of leave taken was 5 days to 10 days
很明顯地，即使我們有一個立法規定僱主為僱員提供7天侍產假，亦未必人人會全數盡放有關假期。
Obviously even if we enact legislation requiring employers to grant seven days paternity leave to employees not every employee would take all the leave
此外，可看看中國內地的情況。
In addition we may look at the situation in Mainland China
在全球140個國家及地區，香港的競爭力排名第七，算是躋身前列位置，但亦差強人意，因為排名較之前下跌了。
Hong Kongs competitiveness ranks seventh among 140 countries and regions around the world . The ranking is considered to be in the forefront but is still unsatisfactory because our ranking has fallen compared with the past
此外，亦有同事或勞工組織向局長強調，本港在勞工權益方面只得零分、排名140，與沙地阿拉伯及科威特同樣位列榜末。
In addition some colleagues or labour groups have highlighted to the Secretary that Hong Kong scoring zero in respect of labour rights and interests ranked last at 140 alongside Saudi Arabia and Kuwait
局長的分析十分詳細，但最重要的是，我們能令國際社會對香港有良好觀感。
The Secretarys analysis is very detailed but most importantly we can give the international community a good perception of Hong Kong
因此，我期望政府能認真考慮這個建議。
Therefore I expect the Government to seriously consider this proposal
我謹此發言支持黃碧雲議員及其他4位議員的修正案。
With these remarks I express my support to the amendments proposed by Dr Helena WONG and other four Members
一直有收看電視直播的朋友若只聽反對派的說法，很容易會被誤導。
Those who have been watching the live television broadcast of this meeting would easily be misled if they only listen to the views of the opposition camp
然而，主席，這樣我們便會跌進一個誤區，他們誤導了很多香港市民。
However Chairman if we comply we will fall into a fallacy by which they have misled many people in Hong Kong
五天侍產假其實是勞資雙方透過勞工顧問委員會討論後所得出來的共識。
A five - day paternity leave is the consensus reached by representatives of employers and employees in the Labour Advisory Board LAB
所以，主席，是否再增加兩天侍產假並不是真正的關鍵。
Hence Chairman the point at issue is not whether an extra two days paternity leave should be provided
我們認為更重要的是，必須尊重勞資雙方過去處理紛爭的有效機制，亦必須尊重所取得的共識。
In our view it is more important to respect the effective mechanism under which various labour disputes have been handled in the past and we must respect the consensus thus forged
主席，作為總結，我希望大家明白在今天的辯論中，我們同意政府的安排，是由於我們要尊重勞顧會處理勞資爭議的機制。
Chairman in conclusion I hope we all understand that in todays debate we accept the Governments proposal out of respect for the mechanism adopted by LAB in handling labour disputes