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這種反建制情緒是由上至下，總體彌漫着社會，由於人們對很多事情的不滿而產生，綜合表現是反映於投票的行為上。
There is a prevalence of anti - establishment sentiment from the bottom of the entire community . It is because there is a general resentment on many issues so it is reflected in the peoples voting behaviour
在美國，人們投票讓Donald TRUMP成功當選；在英國，人們投票讓英國脫歐。
In the United States people cast their votes to let Donald TRUMP win . In the United Kingdom people cast their votes to allow Brexit
然而，對於這種社會普遍對建制的不信任，寧願投票給政治素人的投票行為，我們作為政治人物，必須一直留意社會未來的發展，以及要正視這個世界潮流的成因為何，而其成因是非常複雜的。
However as to the behaviour of casting votes to a novice politician due to the general mistrust in the society at large towards the establishment we politicians should pay heed to the future development in society and face up to the causes of global trends . These causes are generally very complicated
但是，如果我們沒有自省的能力，沒法了解這些成因，沒法了解反建制的潮流如何產生，我們便真的是沒有為社會未來做好打算，認清這個十分重要的過程。
However if we are unable to examine our shortcomings or if we fail to understand these causes or fail to understand how these anti - establishment trends have come into being then we are not making plans for our societys future by identifying such a key process
我們作為政治人物，有否在這個過程中撫心自問，我們是否促成這種反建制潮流的其中一分子呢？
Have we legislators asked ourselves in this process if we have played a part in facilitating these anti - establishment trends?
但是，要建立信任，其實不可能只倚靠以一些文字組成障礙，又或是利用語言"偽術"堆砌出一些文字，然後希望別人信任。
Nevertheless we cannot build trust by means of constructing some obstacles with written words or making use of some weasel words to pad out some written words and expect others to trust us
我們是需要一些過程，擺事實，講道理的。
We need a process to display the facts and expound the justifications
所以，大家憑普通常識來看這件事，是否也感到有些十分奇怪的現象呢？
For that reason even if we treat the matter with common sense isnt it normal for us to see that something is rather odd?
為何李寶蘭署任1年後官復原職，其他同事也會提出請辭呢？
Why Ms Rebecca LI was sent back to her original post after taking the acting appointment for one year and other colleagues of her tendered their resignations after that?
為何這麼大規模的高層人員請辭，不是一種震盪呢？
Why the massive resignation of high - ranking staff at ICAC is not a kind of shock?
面對這種震盪時，廉署能否十分簡單地說，這是內部的事情，大家無須那麼緊張呢？
In the face of this shock can ICAC put it in a simple way and say it is only an internal issue and the public need not be that anxious?
其實，我們所關心的，是廉署在整個部署接班過程中，在內部人事管理上，是否出現某種問題，而我們是不知道的呢？
In fact what we concern about is that whether a certain issue concerning internal personnel management that we know nothing about has emerged in the course of devising a succession plan within ICAC?
例如美國很多人批評希拉莉為何無法取得眾人信任，便是認為她在過去數十年擔任公職時，並沒有表達好其應該要清楚表達的一種態度，以及並未把問題說清楚，致令公眾不信任她。
For example a lot of Americans criticized the reason why Hillary CLINTON was unable to win public trust was that during the past several decades when she was holding public office she failed to express clearly the attitude she should have expressed and she failed to clarify all those problems . As a result the public did not trust her
事實上，這就是我們政治人物需要撫心自問的問題。
As a matter of fact this is a question that we political figures should ask ourselves
如果社會對建制不信任的話，便會令整個社會的管治出現問題。
If the society at large does not trust the establishment then difficulties in its governance will arise
但是，如果大家對此是不重視的話，無論我們花多少唇舌討論，今天投票的結果自然都是一樣，無論是40:30或是39:30，都是輸的。
But if no importance is attached to that then no matter how painstaking is the discussion the voting result will be the same . No matter it is 40col30 or 39col30 we are bound to lose
你贏了一場投票，"臭屎密冚"又如何呢？
What if you win the ballots and manage to cover up all stinking shit?
大家的不信任可否因為"臭屎密冚"之後而得到平息呢？
Will the mistrust be quietened down after the covering up all the stinking shit?
究竟我們解決問題的方法，是讓它更清楚的展示在市民大眾面前，將有問題、破綻或做得不妥當的地方撥亂反正是一種較好的管治方法，還是"臭屎密冚"是另一種好的管治方法呢？
After all does the solution of coming clean in front of the crowd rectifying problems and mistakes and improper approaches represent a better governance model? . Or is covering up all the stinking shit a better governance model instead?
我支持林卓廷議員的議案，引用《條例》調查廉署李寶蘭女士的事件。
I support Mr LAM Cheuk - tings motion to investigate into the case of Ms Rebecca LI by invoking the Legislative Council Ordinance
當然，這亦相應地牽涉制度上的問題，就是廉署是向一個人負責的，它是直接向行政長官負責的機關。
Of course this will also involve a problem of the system accordingly . That is ICAC is accountable to one person only it is an institution which is directly accountable to the Chief Executive
因此，萬一事件是與行政長官有關時，將難以避免令公眾產生各種猜測及懷疑。
For that reason in case the incident is related to the Chief Executive then it will be difficult to avoid all sorts of speculations and suspicions in the community
大家今天是否都很擔心政府會出現青黃不接的現象？
Do we concern about a succession gap in the Government?
有沒有人知道現時政府在處理青黃不接的問題上，是用甚麼方式來確保這現象不會出現，不致影響整個管治架構呢？
Does anybody know as far as the problem of succession gap is concerned what measure has the Government put in place to ensure that would not happen and thereby not affecting the governance structure?
我認為市民大眾真的有非常合理的理由，要求當局把這些資料放在公眾面前，讓大家看得到。
I consider that there are reasonable grounds for the public to request the Administration to disclose the information publicly so that everyone can see them
但是，很可惜，我在討論中看到建制派不斷說這些都是捕風捉影、空穴來風，是陰謀論。
However it is unfortunate that I have seen the establishment keeps on saying in the debate that we are just over - suspicious the argument is unfounded and conspiratorial
然而，說完這堆話之後又如何呢？
Nevertheless whats next after saying all these words?
如果不是用調查的結果來證實林卓廷議員所說的話是捕風捉影、陰謀論的話，我想問有甚麼方法可以遏止捕風捉影、陰謀論，停止這些言論發酵呢？
If we are not going to debunk what Mr LAM Cheuk - ting have been saying are being over - suspicious and merely some conspiracy theories may I ask what should be done to prevent these imaginations and conspiracy theories from festering?
我們要想的問題是如何能夠讓大家覺得是陰謀、猜測的東西，藉公開透明的方法，嚴肅地證明，果然是林議員捕風捉影、陰謀論。
What we should ponder is how to prove in an open transparent and solemn way that all the conspiracies and conjectures as everybody surmises are really something out of Mr LAMs own imaginations and conspiracy theories
只有這樣才能解決問題。
Only if we do it in that way can we solve the problem
因此，我在此作最後呼籲，希望大家可以從各種不同的角度思考一下，是否支持林卓廷議員的建議，引用《條例》，成立一個專責委員會，展開全面調查，還廉署一個公道，讓社會恢復對建制的信任。
Therefore I am calling on Members for the last time and hope Members can consider the matter from various perspectives and see if they can support Mr LAM Cheuk - tings proposal by setting up a select committee and launching a comprehensive investigation under the Legislative Council Ordinance so that we can see justice to be done to ICAC and to restore public confidence to the establishment
代理主席，梁振英在競選行政長官時，曾承諾逐步降低強制性公積金戶口內僱主累積供款權益用作抵銷僱員長期服務金及遣散費的比例，但梁振英的任期現已接近尾聲，卻仍未有任何具體計劃。
Deputy President when LEUNG Chun - ying was running for the office of Chief Executive he undertook to progressively reduce the proportion of accrued benefits attributed to the employers contribution in the Mandatory Provident Fund MPF account that can be used to offset the employees long service and severance payments . However while LEUNG Chun - yings term of office is now drawing to an end there is still not any specific plan
我認為，大家覺得他"走數"也是很理所當然。
I think it is natural that we regard him as having reneged on his promise
局長在上月表示，政府會在餘下8個月內提出具方向性的計劃，換言之，"打工仔"不用再期望梁振英會在本屆任期內履行其競選承諾。
Last month the Secretary indicated that the Government would come up with a directional proposal in the remaining eight months . In other words wage earners can stop expecting LEUNG Chun - ying to honour his election promise in this term
但是，我更加擔心的是，局長在換屆後可能已不在其位，特首亦 可能已經換人，屆時這個具方向性的計劃會否繼續執行，抑或好像上屆政府制訂的新界東北發展計劃，林鄭月娥司長說會採用新市鎮模式，但新局長陳茂波上任後，卻改變發展方法，令新界東北的發展更加困難？
However I am more worried that in the new term of office the Secretary may no longer hold his post and the Chief Executive may also be replaced . Will this directional proposal continue to be carried out then? . Or will it be similar to the Northeast New Territories development project formulated by the last - term Government which according to Chief Secretary for Administration Carrie LAM would adopt the new town development approach but after the new Secretary Paul CHAN had assumed office the approach of development was changed making the development of Northeast New Territories even more difficult?
強積金對沖機制對低收入僱員的影響至為重大，特別是月薪低於7,100元的僱員根本無需作出強積金供款，但亦因為這種特性，低薪僱員轉工的次數往往較為頻繁，所以僱主的供款長期以來都用來對沖長期服務金或遣散費。
The MPF offsetting mechanism has an extremely significant impact on low - income employees especially when employees whose monthly salary is lower than 7,100 actually need not make any MPF contributions . However it is also because of this particular feature that low - income employees invariably change jobs more frequently . For this reason the employers contributions have long since been used to offset long service or severance payment
事實上，當大家討論全民退休保障時，局長一直很強調強積金是市民大眾退休保障的數條支柱中，其中很重要的一條支柱。
As a matter of fact during our discussion about universal retirement protection the Secretary has always emphasized that MPF is one of the several important pillars of retirement protection for the general masses
但是，當僱員面對這個問題時，我卻看不到局長有甚麼方法來應對和處理。
However I did not see the Secretary come up with any method to respond to and deal with this problem faced by the employees
我今天聽到很多議員在發言時，無論是從僱員或僱主角度，抑或是代表勞工界或老闆界的發言，都把強積金對沖問題看成為僱員與僱主之間的敵對或敵我矛盾，其實這看法非常無謂。
In many Members speeches I have heard today no matter whether they have spoken from the employers angle or that of employees or on behalf of the labour sector or the bosses they have regarded the issue of the MPF offsetting arrangement as antagonism between employers and employees or a conflict between two opposing camps . Actually such a view is quite meaningless
我對整件事的感覺是，政府在考慮問題時往往把僱員和僱主變成敵對雙方。
My impression of the whole matter is that in considering the issue the Government often treats employers and employees as two opposing parties
這是我們需要兌現的承諾，亦不應隨意改動。
This is a pledge that needs redemption and it should not be altered at will
我相信局長在不同場合都曾經說過，全民退保安排應該透過不同支柱來分別應對，其中一條支柱便是局長 經常提到的強積金，但他卻容許對沖安排繼續下去，那麼問題應如何解決？
I believe the Secretary has said on different occasions that arrangements for universal retirement protection should be made respectively by different pillars one of which as mentioned by the Secretary from time to time is MPF . Yet he allows the offsetting arrangement to continue . As such how should the problem be resolved?
從2001年至2015年這15年內，被對沖的遣散費和長期服務金金額已累積至280億元。
During the 15 years from 2001 to 2015 the total amount of severance and long service payments offset reached 28 billion
其實，這是一個資源問題：如果大家同意從公共政策角度而言，這3項對僱員權益的保障應該繼續，那麼我們便要在社會政策上爭取所需的資源。
This is actually a question of resources if we agree from the perspective of public policy that these three measures of protecting employees interests should remain then we should strive for the necessary resources as a matter of social policy
主席，我在開始發言前要申報，我是一個時裝集團的老闆，也是扶貧委員會的委員，正正因為我這兩個不同的身份，我認為我更能夠從不同角度看待這個非常富爭議性的問題。
President before I begin my speech I have to declare that I am the proprietor of a fashion group as well as a member of the Commission on Poverty . It is precisely because I am wearing these two different hats that I consider myself all the more capable of viewing this highly controversial issue from different angles
我感謝黃國健議員提出這項議案。
I thank Mr WONG Kwok - kin for moving this motion
我提出修正案是希望提供我的答案給大家參考，讓大家理性討論強制性公積金對沖機制，尋求解決之道。
In proposing my amendment I hope to provide my answer for Members reference so as to enable Members to have a rational discussion on the Mandatory Provident Fund MPF offsetting mechanism in search of a solution
林鄭司長說強積金是香港當前3座大山之一，我非常認同。
Chief Secretary Carrie LAM has described this issue concerning MPF as one of the three mountains currently facing Hong Kong . I very much agree with her on that
撇除政治爭拗，強積金確是民生議題的重中之重。
Leaving aside political wrangling MPF is indeed a top priority when it comes to livelihood issues
說回正題，強積金的概念和原意都是意願良好的，但其對沖機制則最為人詬病。
While MPF is well meaning in terms of both its concept and original intent it has been most criticized for its offsetting mechanism
主席，當年就如何落實強積金討論了很長時間，僱主和政府進行多次談判，這是歷史。
President years ago there was a prolonged discussion on how to implement MPF with many rounds of negotiations between employers and the Government . This is history
在強積金法例生效之前，《僱傭條例》已經容許僱主將《職業退休計劃條例》的退休計劃供款，或按照服務年資支付予員工的合約酬金，對沖遣散費和長期服務金。
Before the MPF legislation came into force the Employment Ordinance already allowed employers to use contributions made to retirement schemes under the Occupational Retirement Schemes Ordinance or gratuities based on length of service payable to employees to offset severance payments and long service payments
不過，草擬強積金法例時，勞工界曾提出十分強烈的意見，大力反對繼續此對沖機制。
Nevertheless during the drafting of the MPF legislation the labour sector expressed very strong views and vigorously opposed the continuation of this offsetting mechanism
勞工處指出，強積金制度經多年研究和廣泛諮詢，到2000年政府正式推行，政府當局特別設立對沖機制，容許長期服務金及遣散費與強積金僱主供款部分對沖，以換取僱主對制度的支持。
As pointed out by the Labour Department the MPF System was the result of years of study and extensive consultation and was officially launched by the Government in 2000 at which time the Administration specially introduced the offsetting mechanism to allow long service payments and severance payments to be offset against employers MPF contributions . This was done in exchange for the support of employers for the system
顯然，如果當年沒有這個妥協，強積金制度根本得不到僱主和僱員雙方支持。這與我今天提出修正案的原則不謀而合。
Clearly without this compromise back then the MPF System would not have received the support of both employers and employees and this happens to coincide with the principle of the amendment proposed by me today
我的修正案主要提出兩點：第一，希望政府盡快取消強積金對沖遣散費的安排，而遣散費則以失業保險來支付，保費由政府承擔；第二，保留強積金對沖長期服務金的安排。
My amendment consists of two main points first it is hoped that the Government will expeditiously abolish the arrangement of offsetting severance payments against MPF contributions and that severance payments will be met by unemployment insurance with premiums borne by the Government; second the arrangement of offsetting long service payments against MPF contributions should be retained
有人對我說，我的修正案一邊幫僱主，一邊幫僱員，兩方不討好，沒有人會支持我。
Someone has said to me that as my amendment seeks to benefit employers on the one hand and employees on the other it will not find favour with either side and no one will support me
我現在是以 事論事，講道理，不是站在任何一方。
I am now discussing the issue on its own merits and trying to reason it out rather than taking sides
當年研究長期服務金與強積金僱主供款部分對沖的原因，是當時很多學者均認同長期服務金本身具有退休保障的本質，所以兩個概念是有重疊的。
The offsetting of long service payments against employers MPF contributions was mooted back then because many scholars at the time shared the view that retirement protection was intrinsic to the nature of long service payments and so there was an overlap between the two concepts
在解決任何社會問題時，所有人都支持的方案，會否才是欺騙自己的方案？
When it comes to resolving any social issue will a proposal supported by everyone turn out to be a proposal that deceives themselves?
對於員工的處境，我的感受也非常深。
I have very deep feelings about the situations of employees
我公司的同事向我反映，因為我們營運策略改變而被裁走的員工在生活上即時遇上很大困難。
The staff of my company relayed to me that the employees who were laid off due to the changes in our operation strategy were immediately faced with great livelihood hardships
我想了很久，決定即時取消我公司對沖遣散費的安排，以後也會維持這個做法。
After pondering for a long time I decided to abolish my companys arrangement of offsetting severance payments with immediate effect . This approach will be maintained henceforth
我大膽建議政府成立保險金，為解開死結創造契機，既可為僱員保留遣散費的制度，亦可減輕商界的壓力。
I boldly propose that the Government should set up an insurance fund to create an opportunity for breaking the deadlock . My proposal not only retains the system of severance payments for employees but also alleviates the pressure on the business sector particularly employers of small and medium enterprises
身為僱主，我當然明白遇上逆境時要遣散員工實在是迫不得已，但要同時負擔強積金和遣散費實非易事。
As an employer I certainly understand that some employers indeed have no alternative but to dismiss their employees in times of adversity and it is really not easy for employers to bear the cost of both MPF and severance payments
周永新教授提出取消長期服務金制度，而我的修正案則建議保留強積金對沖長期服務金的安排；兩者的分別是，根據我的建議，如果長期服務金的金額較大，對沖後剩餘的錢可以令員工有所得益。
While Prof Nelson CHOW has proposed to abolish the system of long service payments my amendment proposes to retain the arrangement of offsetting long service payments against MPF contributions . The difference between these two proposals is that under my proposal if the amount of long service payment is rather large the employee can benefit from the money left after the offsetting
我相信大部分僱主都樂意讓員工的退休生活得到多些保障，我希望他們會支持我的建議。
I believe that most employers are willing to allow their employees to have more retirement protection . I hope that they will support my proposal
最後，所謂兩面不討好，無非是中華民族在數千年歷史中倡議的中庸之道。
Lastly speaking of a move that does not find favour with either side it is all about steering a middle course as advocated by the Chinese nation for several thousand years in its history
我做生意這麼久，只有一條金科玉律：凡事以雙贏為目標，一方贏盡或一方輸盡，生意一定做不成。
I have been a businessman for a long time and I have only one golden rule for doing business always aim for a win - win outcome as there is definitely no way that a deal can be struck if one side wins all and the other side loses all
各位議員，無論你們是代表資方還是勞方，是代表商界還是基層，我懇請你們以大智慧來解決這個問題。
Members regardless of whether you represent employers employees the business sector or the grass roots I implore you to resolve this issue with great wisdom
下屆特首選舉，是否又拿此事來討論？
Should this issue be brought up again for discussion at the next Chief Executive election?
五年後是否又再"走數"？
Will the Government go back on its word again five years later?
是否又再拖延下去？
Will there be further procrastination?
我們發現現時享有的自由並非免於恐懼的自由，來自打壓者的不管是政治迫害還是言論威嚇，近日都越見嚴重。
It can be seen that the freedom enjoyed in Hong Kong at present is not the freedom from fear since the political persecution and verbal intimidation from those who suppress us are getting more and more serious
真真正正令香港市民一直以來感到自豪及有信心的，就是本港的廉潔制度。
What Hong Kong people have always been really proud and confident of is the system integrity we maintain
"香港勝在有ICAC"，相信是每一位市民、議員從小到大都感到自豪的一句話，而李寶蘭事件卻令我們對ICAC的體制感到動搖、焦慮，所以真的值得我們仔細推敲。
I am sure Hong Kong Our Advantage is ICAC is a slogan that makes everyone in Hong Kong feels so proud of since childhood . However the Rebecca LI incident has shaken our confidence in and triggered off public anxiety over the system of the Independent Commission Against Corruption ICAC and it really deserves our careful consideration
很出奇地，李寶蘭女士作為工作能力和成績一直都備受推許的人員，為何突然會被視為工作能力力有不逮而無法正式晉升為執行處首長呢？
Very surprisingly as an officer who has all along been highly acclaimed for her good ability and outstanding performance Ms Rebecca LI was suddenly criticized for failing to perform up to the required standard and was therefore considered not suitable for substantive promotion to the position of Head of Operations . Why is that so?
為了維護香港的核心價值，我們確實應該徹查此事。
In order to safeguard the core values of Hong Kong a thorough investigation of the incident should indeed be conducted
很多人聲稱這其實是一件很簡單的事情，只是人事任命問題，屬廉政公署內部事務，但我們卻看到疑點重重。
Many people argued that this is actually a very simple incident and it just involves personnel appointment matters which are in essence the internal affairs of ICAC but we find many doubtful points concerning the case
為何一直備受上司、下屬推許工作能力非常卓越的人員，會被突然視為力有不逮？
How come an officer who has always been highly acclaimed by her supervisors and subordinates for her unsurpassed ability was suddenly assessed as failing to perform up to the required standard?
"，甚至報以3分鐘熱烈掌聲為她送別，究竟她的工作能力是否真的力有不逮？
and giving her a warm applause for three minutes . Did she really fail to perform up to the required standard?
李寶蘭在1984年加入廉署，由助理調查主任做起，工作表現一直非常出色，並成為重點栽培人員。
Ms LI joined ICAC as an Assistant Investigator in 1984 and has since then been performing with flying colours rendering her an officer selected for focused training
她在2002年升任首席調查主任，到了2010年已晉升至執行處處長的職位，到了去年7月更開始署任執行處首長。
She was promoted to the position of Principal Investigator in 2002 further to the position of Director of Investigation in 2010 and took up the acting appointment as Head of Operations from July last year
為何在1年之後會突然被視為力有不逮呢？
How come she was suddenly rated as an incompetent officer in just one year?
這除了是我們對於一位備受推許人員的關心之外，背後還有一重更重要的意義，那就是我們非常關注廉署的人事任命制度，會否造成調查特首有否貪腐行為的障礙。
This is not only a gesture to show our concern for an officer who has been highly commended for her outstanding performance but also a move with an even more important meaning behind because we feel deeply concerned whether the appointment system of ICAC will constitute a hurdle in the investigation of the alleged corruption of the Chief Executive
以我們所知，本港的《防止賄賂條例》一直存在漏洞，令我們無法好好徹查特首有否貪腐行為，因為規管最嚴格或嚴厲的條例，特首都可獲豁免。
According to our understanding since there are loopholes in our Prevention of Bribery Ordinance POBO a thorough investigation cannot often be conducted of the alleged corruption of the Chief Executive because the Chief Executive is exempted from the most stringent regulation imposed by the toughest law
當我們討論是否需要修訂《防止賄賂條例》時，李寶蘭事件令我們有多一重發現：廉署內部的人事任命制度會否構成另一重關卡，令我們無法好好徹查特首的貪腐問題？
When a discussion is conducted on whether there is a need to amend the POBO the Rebecca LI incident has shed a little more light on the issues involved . Will the internal personnel appointment system of ICAC set up another hurdle to prevent us from conducting a thorough investigation of the alleged corruption of the Chief Executive?
當下屬一意要調查上司時，這會否出現令其被迫無法晉升甚至離任的情況？
If a subordinate insists on investigating hisher superior whether heshe will be put in an unfavourable condition with the arrangement mentioned above so that heshe cannot get a promotion and will even be forced to resign?
這一點我們必須好好徹查，否則將無法維護本港的廉潔制度。
We should carry out a thorough investigation of the case or else the system integrity of Hong Kong cannot be safeguarded
所以，無論是市民或議員，所關心的絕對不是"689"此人的道德問題，而是本港的廉政制度，能否維護廉潔此一整個社會一直十分信賴並引以自豪的核心價值。
Hence what Hong Kong people and Members are concerned about is absolutely not the personal ethical problem of 689 but the system integrity of Hong Kong and whether we can safeguard the core values of honesty and integrity which the whole society has always been relying on and proud of
很多人包括建制派議員一直都在攻擊，指要求徹查此事是捕風捉影，只是聽信一些小道消息、不能證實的消息，所以不值得徹查。
Many people including pro - establishment Members have been criticizing us severely for demanding a thorough investigation of the incident . In their opinion it is not worth the trouble to carry out a thorough investigation because these are just groundless accusations made on hearsay statements and unsubstantiated rumours
我想問大家，如果事情已屬證據確鑿，為何還要徹查？
I would like to ask fellow Members what is the point of conducting a thorough investigation if irrefutable evidence is present?
之所以要徹查，正是因為有合理疑點卻看不到證據，所以才要展開調查。
It is exactly because there are reasonable doubts but no evidence of proof that a thorough investigation is needed
但是，很多建制派議員卻因此趁機抹黑林卓廷議員，指他"隨口噏當秘笈"，引述一些廉署內部根本無法核實的消息，上綱上線地指控林卓廷議員在"惡意抽水"。
However many pro - establishment Members have seized the opportunity to smear the reputation of Mr LAM Cheuk - ting by accusing him of making whimsical statements and citing ICACs internal information which can hardly be verified and alleging with exaggeration that Mr LAM Cheuk - ting is taking advantage of the situation with malicious intent
此舉只會令提供消息的人士有面對刑責之虞。
By doing so the informants will only be made to face the risk of criminal liability
即使《防止賄賂條例》已訂有豁免，但豁免範圍亦僅限於所披露的資料旨在"公開專員、副專員或任何廉政公署人員的不合法活動、濫用權力、嚴重疏於職守或其他嚴重不當行為"。
Although exemption provisions have already been provided for in the POBO the exemptions only cover disclosures which seek to reveal any unlawful activity abuse of power serious neglect of duty or other serious misconduct by the Commissioner the Deputy Commissioner or any officer of ICAC
要告密者承擔這種風險，實在毫無道理，這種抹黑亦對林卓廷議員非常不公平。
It would be totally unreasonable for informants to take this risk and it is grossly unfair to smear the reputation of Mr LAM Cheuk - ting in this way
正如我剛才所說，正因我們認為疑點重重，所以才要展開調查。
As I said earlier it is exactly because there are so many doubtful points that an investigation is needed
建制派議員對這些疑點視而不見，反而出言恐嚇和抹黑林卓廷議員，這實在是昧着良心說話的行為。
Pro - establishment Members have not only turned a blind eye to these doubtful points but have also made some threatening and defamatory remarks against Mr LAM Cheuk - ting . They are actually speaking against their conscience
從李寶蘭事件，我們發現真的有很多合理疑點和懷疑，令我們認為此事與UGL一案有關。
Since there are really so many reasonable doubts and queries concerning the Rebecca LI incident we do think that it must have something to do with the UGL incident