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如果這不是單一事件，是否業界早已習以為常？
If this is not an individual case has the industry long got used to such a practice?
有否更嚴重的罪行呢？
Was there any more serious crime?
今次是數據矩陣，並非敏感資料，但當然，其實也是限閱資料。
This time the data matrix is not sensitive information but certainly it is restricted information
會否有其他資料曾遭挪用呢？
Has any other information been used illegally?
為何他們可以"穿櫃桶底"？
Why were they able to engage in such misappropriation?
橫洲事件有很多疑點，而這些疑點也是我支持這項議案的原因。
There are many doubts about the Wang Chau incident and such doubts are also my reason for supporting this motion
主席，例如我們曾在發展事務委員會會議上，就橫洲公屋發展項目的工地平整和基礎建設工程爭拗，其中一點是關於使用24億元進行工地平整工程。
For example President at the meeting of the Panel on Development we argued about the site formation and infrastructural works in the public housing development project at Wang Chau . One of the points was about spending 2.4 billion on the site formation works
我們計算過，若首期只興建4,000個單位，即1個單位需要60萬元的基建費。
We have calculated that if only 4 000 housing units are constructed in the first phase that means the capital cost for each unit is 600,000
我真的感到很奇怪。
I am really baffled
有沒有其他資料呢？
Was there any other information?
究竟有沒有其他顧問公司，即不論是這一間或其他顧問公司，在掌握政府的機密限閱資料時，因為制度存有更大的監察漏洞，令他們可從中進行利益輸送甚至謀利？
Is any other consultancy that means be it this consultancy or others able to transfer benefits or even make profits when holding the Governments confidential or restricted information because a greater loophole exists in the monitoring system?
雖然他是工程界人士，但我相信他未必與這間公司有直接關係。
Although he is a member of the engineering sector I believe he may not have any direct relationship with this company
這些合約是需要分開來處理的，沒理由互通資料，還要讓地產商得益。
These contracts needed to be handled separately . There was no reason to share the information and even benefit the real estate developer
主席，如何不公道呢？
President how will it be unfair?
主席，沒有人針對新世界。
President no one targets NWD
我重申，我們針對的是，究竟有沒有人"穿櫃桶底"？
Let me reiterate that our focus is whether anyone has engaged in misappropriation
我們鍥而不捨地追問此事，因為我們明顯看到，當中有潛在利益輸送的手影，而不幸地，政府或多或少牽涉在內。
We keep asking about this matter with unflagging efforts because we have clearly seen traces of a potential conflict of interest there and unfortunately the Government was involved to a smaller or larger extent
今次有一個大地產商在緊接所涉位置的旁邊擁有一幅土地雖然申請尚未批核想用作發展。
This time a large real estate developer owns a site immediately adjacent to the location in question―though the application has not yet been approved―and wishes to use it for development
主席，這亦十分巧合，現時收地範圍涵蓋非原居民的居所，令他們遭到"滅村"，而現時新世界的發展計劃卻可以無縫銜接，這樣就需要解釋，如此多巧合，是否真的沒有事前商討呢？
President what a coincidence . The present scope of land resumption covers the homes of non - indigenous villagers causing the demolition of their village while the development plan of NWD can now achieve seamless connection . This warrants an explanation
這樣怎能夠令公眾釋疑呢？
As such how can the doubts of the public be dispelled?
主席，這就是我質疑的地方。
President this is precisely my query . Moreover President I need to add a point in closing
此外，主席，最後要補充一點，我想強調在今次事件中，利益衝突的表徵甚為明顯，有一間顧問公司"吃兩家茶禮"，而根據很多屬該業界的同事剛才所說，這更是常態，因為公私營機構的合約難以分開處理。
I wish to emphasize that in this incident the sign of a conflict of interest is rather obvious . A consultancy simultaneously accepted two offers of engagement . According to the remarks made just now by many Honourable colleagues belonging to that industry this is just a norm because it is difficult to handle the contracts of public and private organizations separately
在這情況下，社會、市民如何可以安心，相信沒有人會違規、違法、違反合約，挪用政府的機密資料，令大財團或地產商得益呢？
That being the case how can the community and members of the public rest assured and believe that no one would breach the rules the law and the contracts and illegally use the Governments confidential information thereby benefiting the large consortiums or real estate developers?
發展局及土木工程拓展署的代表已於2016年11月15日、11月29日及12月6日的房屋事務委員會與發展事務委員會的聯席會議上，詳細講解關於涉事顧問公司沒有遵照工務工程顧問合約內利益衝突和資料保密條款的跟進工作，以及有關管理工程及相關顧問公司表現的機制，並解答議員的疑問。
At the joint meetings of the Panel on Housing and Panel on Development of the Legislative Council on 15 November 2016 29 November and 6 December representatives from the Development Bureau and CEDD illustrated in detail the follow - up work regarding the non - compliance of the conflict of interest and confidentiality provisions in the consultancy agreement by the consultant involved as well as the mechanism for managing works and performance of the related consultants; and they also responded to members questions
另外，應部分議員在會議上的要求，政府亦已提交相關補充資料，包括運輸及房屋局2016年11月28日及12月5日的信件，以及運輸及房屋局/房屋署、發展局、財經事務及庫務局和地政總署在2017年1月的回應文件。
Moreover in response to the requests of some members made at the meetings the Government had also provided relevant supplementary information including letters of the Transport and Housing Bureau dated 28 November and 5 December 2016 and the response papers from the Transport and Housing BureauHousing Department Development Bureau Financial Services and the Treasury Bureau and Lands Department in January 2017
土木工程拓展署的工務工程顧問合約旨在為橫洲公營房屋發展第1期項目所需的地盤平整、道路、擋土構築物、行人天橋和其他基建工程等進行勘查、詳細設計、招標及項目管理等工作。
The objective of the public works consultancy agreement of CEDD is to carry out site investigation detailed design tendering project administration etc for the site formation roadworks retaining structures footbridge and other infrastructural works associated with Phase 1 of the Wang Chau public housing development
顧問研究在2015年3月開展，現時預計約於2024年完成。
The study was commenced in March 2015 and is currently expected to be completed by 2024
根據《工務技術通告第3/2004A號》和《工務技術通告第18/2005號》，工務部門會在工程顧問合約中加入標準條文，規管顧問公司須就已知或潛在的利益衝突即時作出申報。
According to Technical Circular Works No . 32004A and Technical Circular Works No . 182005 works departments will specify in consultancy agreements the requirement for the consultant to declare immediately any actual or potential conflict of interest
除非事先已獲政府相關部門書面批准外，顧問公司不得為任何第三方從事任何觸及、關於或影響有關顧問合約工作的事宜。
Except with the prior written approval of the relevant government department the consultant shall not undertake any jobs for and on behalf of any third party which touches concerns or affects the services of the consultancy agreement
另外，顧問公司從顧問合約工作中獲得的資料，只可用於該政府工程項目，並須嚴格保密。
The consultant can only use the information and other particulars obtained through the services of the consultancy agreement in the concerned government project and strict confidentiality should be observed
除已事先獲得政府相關部門的書面准許或指示外，顧問公司不得向其他人士披露有關資料。
Except with the prior written consent or as instructed by the relevant government department the consultant shall not disclose such information or particulars to any other person
剛才我說的這些條款已載於運輸及房屋局2016年11月28日的信件內。
The provisions that I just cited are already contained in the letter of the Transport and Housing Bureau dated 28 November 2016
土木工程拓展署透過規劃署於2015年9月發現元朗橫洲私人發展項目的規劃申請中，懷疑上述工務工程顧問合約獲得的受限資料被不當引用，包括規劃署的《全港人口及就業數據矩陣》數據，並開展調查及要求涉事顧問公司就履行合約條款方面作出回應。
In September 2015 CEDD discovered through the Planning Department PlanD that the planning application for a private property development at Wang Chau Yuen Long was suspected of improperly using restricted data including the Territorial Population and Employment Data Matrix of PlanD from the aforementioned public works consultancy agreement . CEDD launched an investigation and requested the consultant involved to respond in connection with its fulfilment of contract provisions
我明白有議員希望當局能披露署方及涉事顧問公司之間的往來信件，但正如以往我們所解釋，由於有關信件包含詳細第三者資料，基於合約雙方須遵守保密原則，以及不損害合約雙方的權益，我們未能給予議員這些信件。
I understand some Members hope that the authorities may disclose the correspondence between CEDD and the consultant involved . However as we explained previously since the correspondence concerned contains detailed third party information we are unable to allow Members to access such correspondence in view that both contracting parties have to observe the principle of confidentiality and without prejudice to the rights of both sides
然而，為回應議員的關注， 有關土木工程拓展署與涉事顧問公司往來信件的摘要已載於運輸及房屋局2016年12月5日的信件內。
Nevertheless in order to address Members concern a summary of the correspondence between CEDD and the consultant involved had been enclosed in the letter of the Transport and Housing Bureau dated 5 December 2016
經詳細檢視有關資料，土木工程拓展署確定涉事顧問公司沒有遵照合約內利益衝突和資料保密條款的要求，在參與私人發展項目前沒有提出批准申請，以及沒有嚴格執行應有的措施防止資料被不當運用，以致在私人發展項目的規劃申請中引用從上述工務工程顧問合約中獲得的資料。
Having examined the relevant information in detail CEDD confirmed that the consultant involved did not comply with the conflict of interest and confidentiality provisions in the public works consultancy agreement in seeking prior approval for undertaking a private development project and did not follow strictly due measures in preventing improper use of information resulting in information obtained from the aforesaid public works consultancy agreement being quoted in the planning application of the private development project
其後，土木工程拓展署的顧問檢討委員會充分考慮上述情況，並在2016年11月7日獲得"工程及有關顧問公司遴選委員會"的批准下，於同日根據《發展局技術通告第3/2016號》向涉事顧問公司採取規管行動，暫停該公司投標"工程及有關顧問公司遴選委員會"轄下所有類別的顧問合約3個月，即由2016年11月7日至2017年2月6日。
After adequately considering the above situation and obtaining the approval from the Engineering and Associated Consultants Selection Board on 7 November 2016 the Consultants Review Committee of CEDD invoked suspension on the consultant involved on the same day from bidding for all categories of consultancy agreements under the jurisdiction of the Engineering and Associated Consultants Selection Board for three months ie . from 7 November 2016 to 6 February 2017 as regulating action in accordance with the Development Bureau Technical Circular Works No . 32016
我們認為有關規管行動屬現有機制下的恰當做法。
We consider the regulating action appropriate under the current mechanism
發展局及土木工程拓展署代表亦在2016年12月6日的房屋事務委員會與發展事務委員會的聯席會議上，用投影片向議員詳細講解管理工程及相關顧問公司表現的機制，以及採取有關規管行動的理據。
At the joint meeting of the Panel on Housing and Panel on Development held on 6 December 2016 with a PowerPoint presentation representatives from the Development Bureau and CEDD also illustrated in detail to Members the mechanism for managing works and performance of relevant consultants as well as the justification for taking the regulating action concerned
土木工程拓展署的顧問檢討委員會其後亦根據《發展局技術通告第3/2016號》的規定，在停標期結束前進行詳細檢討，在確保涉事顧問公司已就管制存取客戶資料方面落實改善措施，並由獨立檢測公司完成審計後，才決定停標期能夠如期結束。
Subsequently the Consultants Review Committee of CEDD also conducted detailed review before the expiry of the suspension period in accordance with the Development Bureau Technical Circular Works No . 32016 . The Committee determined the suspension period could be ended as scheduled only when it ascertained the consultant involved has implemented improvement measures for access control of clients information which was audited by an independent audit company
有關部門亦確認這些受限資料並不屬機密或以上級別資料，而這次不當引用有關資料，應該不會對政府造成任何實質或潛在的損失。
The department concerned also confirmed that such restricted information was not classified as confidential or above and the current improper quotation of the relevant information should not give rise to any real or potential loss of the Government
不過，過早披露有關資料仍然可能會引起公眾不必要的誤會。
However premature disclosure of the relevant information might still arouse unnecessary misunderstandings amongst the public
另外，土木工程拓展署目前正在研究有關從民事方面追討涉事顧問公司事宜的法律意見及接下來的工作。
Besides CEDD is currently studying the legal advice pertaining to the pursuit of civil claims against the consultant involved
為保障各方的權益，我不便在此透露進一步資料。
In order to protect the interests of all parties I am in no position to disclose further information here
土木工程拓展署的資料亦顯示，這次事件與涉事顧問公司在執行利益衝突申報程序及防止資料被不當使用措施的表現欠佳有關，而部門已採取了適當的跟進行動。
CEDDs information also indicated that the current incident was related to the poor performance of the consultant involved in executing declaration procedure against conflict of interest and preventive measures against improper use of information . The department concerned had also taken proper follow - up actions
有關跟進工作需要建基於顧問公司與政府部門的顧問合約條款，以及《發展局技術通告第3/2016號》內管理顧問表現的機制。
The follow - up action concerned should be based on the provisions of the consultancy agreement between the consultant and the government department as well as the mechanism for management of the performance of consultants in the Development Bureau Technical Circular Works No . 32016
反之，部門與私人發展商並沒有任何合約關係，亦暫時沒有資料顯示事件與上述以外的原因有關，因此有關的工作並沒有延伸至私人發展商。
On the contrary since there was no contractual relationship between the department and the private developer and there was presently no information to indicate that the incident was related to reasons other than the aforementioned the relevant effort was not extended to the private developer
為防止同類事件發生，發展局已於2016年11月發出通函，要求所有工務及相關部門提醒其委聘的顧問公司須嚴格遵守合約內的保密要求和利益衝突條款。
To prevent the recurrence of similar incidents the Development Bureau issued a memorandum in November 2016 requesting all works and related departments to remind consultants employed by them to comply strictly with the confidentiality and conflict of interest provisions in consultancy agreements
我們明白有議員關注這次事件，以及現有管理工程及相關顧問公司的機制。
We understand that Members are concerned about the current incident as well as the existing mechanism for management of projects and related consultants
我們正為管理工程顧問機制進行檢討，我們現時預期有關檢討可於2018年內完成。
We are reviewing the mechanism for management of works consultants which the review is expected to be completed within 2018
此外，為回應社會包括專業界別的訴求，規劃署已於2017年3月把數據矩陣資料整合成按26個較大分區劃分的數據，並在部門網站向外公開。
Moreover in response to the appeals from the community including those of the relevant professional sectors PlanD had aggregated the data of the Territorial Population and Employment Data Matrix into 26 larger districts and made public on its departmental website in March 2017
我們相信有關資料可為各個相關專業界別所進行的技術評估提供有用參考。
We trust the data can provide a useful reference to various relevant professions in conducting technical assessments
主席，我希望議員明白政府已嚴肅跟進有關事件，在聆聽議員發表的意見後，我會再作回應。
President I hope Members understand that the Government has followed up on the incident seriously . I will respond further after listening to the views of Honourable Members
主席，公民黨的立場當然是支持黨友陳淑莊議員的議案，但這不是因為黨友的關係，而是道理的問題。
President the Civic Party certainly supports the motion of Ms Tanya CHAN our party member . We render support not because Tanya is our party comrade but because it is justified to give support
眾所周知，香港故宮文化博物館在未經公眾諮詢的情況下上馬，中間有很多疑團和問題，我們希望政府能夠"解畫"。
As known to all the Hong Kong Palace Museum HKPM project was endorsed without undergoing public consultation . As there are many doubts and questions we hope the Government would provide explanations
今次的議案是一個最好的機會，讓政府澄清究竟在簽訂協議期間發生了甚麼事情。
This motion gives the Government a very good chance to clarify what had actually happened before the signing of an agreement
容許我簡單複述一下，究竟發生了甚麼事情，才會出現今天的討論。
Let me briefly recap what had happened leading to our discussion today
事緣政府在2016年12月23日，突然向香港人送上一份我們完全沒有預計過的所謂聖誕大禮，宣布跟北京故宮博物院簽訂《合作備忘錄》，在西九文化區興建故宮館。
On 23 December 2016 the Government suddenly gave Hong Kong people a so - called Christmas gift that we had never expected . It announced that a Memorandum of Understanding of Cooperation MOU was signed between the West Kowloon Cultural District Authority WKCDA and the Beijing Palace Museum on the development of HKPM
整個過程沒有經過任何諮詢，甚至連立法會也毫不知情。
No consultation was conducted and even the Legislative Council was completely in the dark
根據政府的說法，政府跟北京故宮博物院簽有保密協議，因此到了簽訂《合作備忘錄》的最後關頭才能公開。
According to the Government as it had signed a confidentiality agreement with the Beijing Palace Museum the relevant details could only be made public immediately before signing MOU
再者，這個故宮館由香港賽馬會捐錢全資興建，不涉及任何公共財政開支，所以無須經過立法會。
The building of HKPM would be totally funded by the Hong Kong Jockey Club . As no public expenditure would be incurred there was not necessary to go through the Legislative Council
主席，《西九文化區管理局條例》第19條訂明，"在不損害第213a條的原則下，管理局須就關於發展或營運藝術文化設施、相關設施及附屬設施的事宜，及任何其他管理局認為合適的事宜，在該局認為適當的時間，藉該局認為適當的方式，諮詢公眾"。
President section 19 of the Kowloon West Cultural District Authority Ordinance stipulates that Without prejudice to section 213a the Authority shall in relation to matters concerning the development or operation of arts and cultural facilities related facilities ancillary facilities and any other matters as the Authority considers fit consult the public at such time and in such manner as it considers appropriate
條文中引述的第213條又說甚麼呢？
What are the contents of section 213 as mentioned in this provision?
該項條文訂明，"在擬備發展圖則時，管理局須—a在該局認為適當的時間，藉該局認為適當的方式，諮詢公眾；及b諮詢民政事務局局長"。
It stipulates that In preparing a development plan the Authority shall―a consult the public at such time and in such manner as it considers appropriate; and b consult the Secretary for Home Affairs
另外，第215條訂明，"在擬備發展圖則時，管理局須顧及在根據第3a款進行的諮詢中接獲的意見"。
Moreover section 215 stipulates that In preparing a development plan the Authority shall have regard to the views received in the consultation conducted under subsection 3a
主席，這麼多條文寫明要諮詢公眾，並且尊重收集得來的公眾意見。
President a number of provisions specify the need to consult the public and respect the public opinions collected
政府今次不經諮詢，便讓故宮館工程上馬，無疑是違反了《條例》的精神。
However the Government had not conducted a consultation before implementing the HKPM project an obvious violation of the spirit of the Ordinance
這條例當初由政府訂立，目的是保障西九規劃開誠布公，但最終違反《條例》精神，不經諮詢，秘密統籌興建故宮館的同樣是特區政府。
The Ordinance was initially enacted by the Government with the objective of ensuring that the planning of WKCD would be conducted in an open and transparent manner but the spirit of the Ordinance has been violated in the end . The SAR Government has secretly coordinated the construction of HKPM without consultation
主席，這不禁令人懷疑，究竟我們能否仍信任香港特區政府尊重《條例》精神。
We cannot help but suspect whether we can still trust that the SAR Government will respect the spirit of the Ordinance
主席，這根本不是諮詢，因為這立下"先斬後奏"的先例，絕對是做壞規矩。
President this is not a consultation at all because this sets a bad precedent of acting first and reporting later
如果以後跟中國大陸合作的文化設施或大型基建也採用這種模式，繞過公眾諮詢和立法會便上馬，那麼日後香港市民的意見還有何價值？
In respect of future cooperation with Mainland China on cultural facilities or major infrastructure projects if this approach of bypassing public consultation and the Legislative Council to immediately implement the projects is adopted will the opinions of Hong Kong people have any value in the future?
立法會又能否行使監察權？
Will the Legislative Council be able to exercise its monitoring power?
所以，主席，我絕對認為這項議案應該獲得通過，而且要求政府公開所有與5人核心小組相關的文件，包括會議日期、會議文件和會議紀錄。
Therefore President I definitely think that this motion should be passed and I also urge the Government to make public all documents relating to the five - member core team including the days of meeting papers and minutes
主席，另一爭議是公開招標的問題。
President another dispute is the issue of open tender
時任政務司司長林鄭月娥在公布簽署《合作備忘錄》後不久，便傳出西九管理局欽點嚴迅奇，直接委任他成為設計顧問的消息。
Shortly after the then Chief Secretary for Administration Carrie LAM announced the signing of MOU rumour had it had WKCDA hand - picked Dr Rocco YIM and directly appointed him as design consultant
這絕不尋常，因為西九文化區其他項目都有公開招標。
This practice was very unusual because other projects in WKCD have to go through open tendering
更嚴重的是，嚴迅奇不但被直接委任為設計顧問，其事務所也不經招標便獲聘為前期顧問，中間政府向相關建築師事務所支付了450萬元顧問費。
More importantly not only had Rocco YIM been directly appointed as design consultant his firm had also been appointed to provide pre - development consultancy service and the Government paid 4.5 million as consultancy fees
當然，相比立法會平常通過的撥款申請涉及的金額，450萬元絕對不是一個大數目，但在這個過程中，政府付出了一個更大的代價，便是破壞了西九發展計劃行之有效的採購程序。
Of course when compared with the amount involved in the funding applications approved by the Legislative Council 4.5 million is certainly not a large amount but the Government had paid a higher price of disrupting the long - standing effective procurement process of the WKCD project
主席，西九管理局的《基本工程項目採購程序》寫明，"單一或局限性招標須在局方事先批准下方能進行，獲邀標者不應被告知投標屬單一或局限性的性質，亦應按照一貫公開及選擇性招標的程序，呈交投標所須文件，局方亦須向對方發出邀標信件"。
President according to the Procurement Procedures for Capital Projects of WKCDA I quote Single or restricted tender procedures shall only be initiated with the prior approval of the relevant approving authority . Tenderers shall not be informed that tenders are being invited on a single or restricted basis and shall be required to submit their tenders in the same manner as open and selective tender procedures . Notice of tender invitation shall be sent by letter to the tenderers
主席，換言之，直接委聘嚴迅奇已經違反上述的採購程序，這涉及我們剛才提到的過程不公開、缺乏透明度的問題。
President in other words the direct appointment of Rocco YIM had violated the above procurement procedures ie the process was not open and lacked transparency as I mentioned earlier
特區政府每每以事出特殊為理由，將故宮館"特事特辦"。
The SAR Government made a special arrangement for HKPM under the pretext that it was something special
經過今次的經驗，是否政府以後針對不需要動用公共財政開支的工程，便可不需要作任何招標，直接委任自己屬意的顧問呢？
With this experience does it mean that the Government can in future directly appoint its preferred consultants without tendering for projects that do not incur public expenditure?
這與利益輸送有甚麼差別？
Such practice will be no different from the transfer of benefits
此例一開，可能會造成以後貪污的誘因。
Setting this precedent may provide an incentive for corruption in the future
主席，正因如此，我們認為今次絕對有理由支持陳淑莊議員的議案。
For this reason President we think that it is justified for us to support Ms Tanya CHANs motion
雖然今次的興建成本由香港賽馬會承擔，但營運成本方面，政府卻未有交代。
Although the construction costs are borne by the Hong Kong Jockey Club the Government has not given an account of the operating costs
我們可以看看"林鄭"簽署的《合作備忘錄》，第一1條第4款是這樣寫的，"西九管理局會負責香港故宮文化博物館的規劃、建造、管理及策展工作，並承諾提供足夠經費，支付香港故宮文化博物館的長遠管理、營運和 維修保養開支"。
If we take a look at MOU signed by Carrie LAM it is mentioned in Article 11 Paragraph 4 that WKCDA will be responsible for the planning construction management and curatorial matters of HKPM and pledged to provide sufficient funds to meet the management operation and maintenance expenses of HKPM in the long run
後來在2017年6月26日，張建宗司長以西九管理局董事局主席的身份，亦簽訂了一份合作協議，當中第3.1a條亦大同小異，寫明"甲方"即西九管理局"將負責設計和建造香港故宮文化博物館，並根據本協議第5、7及8條，在香港故宮文化博物館落成後負責其日常管理、營運和維修保養"。
On 26 June 2017 Chief Secretary Matthew CHEUNG in his capacity as Chairman of WKCDA Board also signed a Collaborative Agreement . Article 3.1a of the Agreement similarly states that Party A ie . WKCDA will be responsible for the design and construction of HKPM and also for the day - to - day management operation and maintenance of HKPM after its completion under Articles 5 7 and 8 of the Agreement
主席，眾所周知，保養文物成本絕對不菲，如果當中涉及國家一級文物，保養成本更驚人。
President as we all know the costs of maintaining relics are absolutely considerable . If Grade One relics are involved the maintenance costs are even more alarming
故宮館需要特定的儲存設施，以維持一定的濕度和溫度，才能夠保證相關文物不會被香港潮濕的天氣破壞。
HKPM needs to have specific storage facilities maintained at certain humidity and temperature so as to ensure that the relics will not be affected by the humid weather of Hong Kong
此外，亦須採取很多防火措施，以保護文物。
Fire precautions should also be taken to protect relics
政府沒有任何交代。
The Government has not given an account of that
這些營運成本並非門券收益可以覆蓋，因為如果門票售價定得太高，相信沒有人願意參觀。
These operating costs cannot be covered by revenue generated from patronage because if the admission fees are too high I believe nobody will be willing to pay a visit
更甚的是，故宮館對比香港其他博物館不算特別大型。
What is more HKPM is not particularly large as compared with other museums in Hong Kong
根據西九管理局網站的資料，故宮館將會有7,600平方米的展廳。
According to information on the WKCDA website HKPM will have 7 600 sq m of gallery space
我們可以對比一下位於沙田的香港文化博物館，那裏有7,500平方米的陳列面積，又或看看香港歷史博物館，那裏有7,000平方米的展廳。如此一對比，我們會看到故宮館並不特別大型，亦不能夠稱得上為旗艦博物館，那麼其成本效益有多大呢？
We can compare HKPM with the Hong Kong Heritage Museum in Sha Tin featuring an exhibition area of some 7 500 sq m Let us also consider the Hong Kong Museum of History which has an exhibition area of 7 000 sq m In contrast HKPM is not particularly large and it cannot be regarded as the flagship museum . What then is the cost - effectiveness?
特別不能忘記的是，距離香港4小時飛機航程的北京及1小時飛機航程的臺北都有故宮博物院，除非故宮館有更多國寶級展品，否則對於遊客的吸引力有多大也是未知數。
In particular we should not forget that we can visit the Palace Museum in Beijing by taking a four - hour flight from Hong Kong or visit the National Palace Museum in Taipei by taking a one - hour flight from Hong Kong . Unless there are more exhibits of national standard at HKPM its attractiveness to tourists is still unknown
主席，正因如此，我們贊成要求政府公開所有顧問報告，讓我們看清楚政府究竟有否為營運成本作出預算。
President for this reason we support the request for disclosing all consultancy reports by the Government so that we can clearly see whether the Government has earmarked funds for the operating costs