Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
不過，即使限制委員會人數，以及每位議員可以加入委員會的數目，如果已報名的議員不積極開會，每次坐幾分鐘，點了名便走，沒有聽取官員的解說、回覆及其他議員的提問，又不看文件，那麼不論該委員會的人數是多或少，其實亦無助提升議政的質素。
However even if the membership size of a committee and the number of committees each Member may join are limited suppose Members who have signed up do not actively attend the meetings or every time after sitting for a few minutes and having their attendance taken they would just leave . They would not listen to the explanations and replies made by the officials or questions raised by other Members . Neither would they read the papers
對於議員的衣着規定，其實回歸前立法局是相當嚴謹的，連有領T恤都不准穿着。
Concerning the dress code for Members the Legislative Council was actually quite strict before the handover of sovereignty . Even collared T - shirts were not allowed
直至回歸後，因應不同因素而逐漸放寬，但慢慢放寬得似乎有點"亂籠"，短褲、印有標語的T恤都可以穿回來。
After the handover of sovereignty the rules were gradually relaxed due to different factors but the relaxation seemed to turn out to have gone too far . Short pants and T - shirts with slogans were allowed
至於在會議期間展示物品的規定，情況亦是一樣，道具的部分內容帶有侮辱性和涉嫌鼓吹違法行為，現在重新收緊有關規定，讓大家可以聚焦議 員的發言內容和理據，而不是借標奇立異的衣着或道具博取曝光，我是絕對支持的。
As regards the display of objects during the course of a meeting the situation was similar . Some of the props were insulting and allegedly advocated illegal acts . Now the relevant rules are tightened afresh so that we can focus on the content and rationale of Members speeches rather than trying to gain exposure through eccentric clothes or props for which I express my absolute support
建議的議員衣飾規定僅適用於立法會大會及全體委員會，我認為其他正式和公開的委員會會議，亦應該對議員衣飾有一定的要求。
The proposed dress code for Members is only applicable to Legislative Council meetings and committee of the whole Council . In my view other formal and public committee meetings should also impose certain requirements on Members attire
議事規則委員會亦建議，若立法會因法定人數不足而流會，在沒有有效理由下缺席的議員會被處以罰款，對於這項原則，我沒有異議，但何謂在"有效理由"下缺席呢？
The Committee on Rules of Procedure has also proposed that if the Council is adjourned due to the lack of a quorum Members absent without a valid reason should be fined . I do not have any objection to this principle . However what is meant by being absent without a valid reason?
我認為應包括之前以書面方式向主席請假，罰款建議當然有待政府修例落實。
I think prior written notice to the President on absence from the meeting should be included . The implementation of the proposed fine is certainly awaiting the Governments legislative amendment
最後，我想說說這4輪修訂均沒有觸及的問題，就是法案委員會的審議程序。
Lastly I would like to talk about an issue which has not been touched upon in these four rounds of amendments . It is the scrutiny process of the Bills Committee
我希望議事規則委員會將來可以探討有關問題，為法案審議工作設定一個合理時限。
I hope the Committee on Rules of Procedure will explore the relevant issue in the future and set a reasonable time limit for the scrutiny of Bills
代理主席，我整體上支持今次對《議事規則》的修訂建議。
Deputy President I support the proposed amendments to the Rules of Procedure RoP in general
首先，我支持對並無有效理由而缺席的議員施行財政處分的修訂，我認為這項修訂是十分合適的。
To begin with I support the amendment to impose financial penalties on Members absent without valid reasons and I find this amendment very appropriate
雖然每位議員每天都日理萬機，很多時候會分身乏術，但我認為這不能作為缺席會議的藉口，因為出席會議是議員的職責所在，亦是對議員的最基本要求。
Although Members have to deal with a myriad of affairs every day and they may not be able to spare time very often I do not think this is an excuse for not attending meetings because it is the duty of Members to attend meetings and this is the most basic requirement for Members
代理主席，這項修訂在某程度上亦可以防止議員透過刻意製造流會來擾亂議會、阻礙政府施政。
Deputy President this amendment can to a certain extent prevent Members from disrupting the legislature and obstructing policy administration of the Government by deliberately creating situations of meetings being adjourned due to a lack of quorum
其次，我想說說就委員會的委員人數設定上限，以及規定議員最多可加入6個委員會的修訂。
Second I would like to talk about the amendments to set a cap on the membership size for committees and to specify that each Member can serve on a maximum of six Panels
我留意到有些議員同事對此有保留，擔心有關修訂會限制議員的權利，我對此表示理解。
I notice that some fellow Members have reservations about this worrying that such amendments will restrict the rights of Members a point to which I understand
不過，我的看法是，雖然有關修訂限制了委員會的委員人數，但並沒有限制非委員出席會議和參與討論的權利。
However in my opinion although the amendments would limit the membership size for committees they do not restrict the right of non - members to attend meetings and participate in discussion
我亦相信政府在回應委員與非委員的提問時，均會一視同仁，不會區分對待。
I also believe that the Government will treat everyone alike and it will make no difference between members and non - members when responding to their questions
而且鑒於第七屆立法會的議席將會由目前的70席增至90席，為了保障各事務委員會均能有效率地運作，我認為有關修訂是可以接受的。
Moreover since the number of seats in the Seventh Legislative Council will increase from the current 70 to 90 I find these amendments acceptable in order to ensure the efficient operation of all Panels
此外，對於議員出席立法會會議的衣飾、在立法會會議上展示物件等的修訂，我認為都是有助維護立法會的尊嚴和形象，因此我給予支持。
In addition with respect to the amendments concerning the attire for Members attending Council meetings and the display of objects by Members at Council meetings etc I support these amendments since I think they will help uphold the dignity and image of the Legislative Council
我希望隨着《議事規則》不斷完善，立法會將來的運作會更暢順，能夠發揮更大的作用。
I hope that with the continuous improvement of RoP the Legislative Council can operate more smoothly and play a more effective role in the future
《2021年香港公開大學條例草案》。
The Open University of Hong Kong Amendment Bill 2021
如果沒有委員想發言，我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：秘書已讀出的條文及附表納入本條例草案。
If no Member wishes to speak I now put the question to you and that is That the clauses and schedule read out by the Clerk stand part of the Bill
代理主席，家家有本難唸的經，如果香港的立法會不是演變至今天沒有文明、混亂一片，我想我們的議事規則委員會亦無須一而再，再而三地提出修改《議事規則》。
Deputy President every family has its own problems . Had the Hong Kong Legislative Council not fallen into the present uncivilized and chaotic state I think our Committee on Rules of Procedure would not have proposed amendments to the Rules of Procedure RoP time and again
事實上，今次的修改是否對症下藥呢？
In fact are the amendments made on this occasion the right remedy for the problem?
我認為我們下藥之後，要給予大家一些時間觀察，因為我認為應該已差不多了。
In my view after we have prescribed the remedy we should allow some time for observation since I think it is almost suffice
我參加議事規則委員會已經13年，當年是因為黃毓民擲出第一隻香蕉，接着越來越多議員以粗言穢語議政，以致大家覺得有需要檢討議事的文化。
I have served on the Committee on Rules of Procedure for 13 years . Years ago WONG Yuk - man threw out a banana the first time a Member had ever done so and then more and more Members used foul language in policy discussion . Consequently we saw the need to review the culture of conducting business in the Council
其實，所謂打開缺口，早自2004年，即"長毛"進入立法會穿T恤出席會議開始，當時的立法會主席容許議員穿T恤，自始情況一直變本加厲，我相信范太當年也沒有想過，今天會演變至有人帶臭蛋進入立法會。
Actually the emergence of loopholes so to speak started as early as in 2004 when Long Hair entered the Legislative Council and wore T - shirts in meetings . The then President of the Legislative Council allowed Members to wear T - shirts . Since then the situation kept worsening
至於不出席會議是否需要罰款的問題，我記得我們一開始討論的時候，主要是針對那些行為不檢、一而再再而三受警告的議員， 大家討論的時候也提出，可否扣減其工資呢？
As for the need to impose a fine for absence from the meeting I remember that when we first discussed the issue we mainly targeted those Members who had been warned repeatedly for misconduct . During our discussion we also explored the feasibility of deducting their remuneration
那時大家認為相當困難，但到了今天，我看到事在人為，其實是可以做到的。
At that time we considered it very difficult to do so but today as I can see success hinges on effort . In fact it is feasible
我個人認為，議員最重要的工作，是參與議事。
In my opinion the most important task of a Member is engagement in policy discussion
如果要作出那麼大的動作，例如將來弄至要釋法，我便認為沒有必要這樣做。
If it entails a big move which may lead to for example an interpretation of the Basic Law in the future I do not think such a move is necessary
因此，採用罰款的方式，即對議員施加罰款，我認為未嘗不可。
Hence I think it is not a bad idea to adopt the penalty approach that is to impose a fine on Members
我們以前也試過當時代理主席也在席就多至1,000項修正案的"拉布"，我們也是這樣協調，兩分鐘表決一次，其實經過協調，流會的情況一定會減少。
In the past we had such an experience―at that time the Deputy President was present too―regarding the filibustering on as many as 1 000 amendments we also coordinated in this way . A vote was taken every two minutes . In fact through coordination abortions of meetings will certainly reduce
所以，我認為我們再審視《議事規則》的時候，應該留一點柔韌度，留一些空間，讓主席作出政治判斷。
Hence I think when we revisit RoP we should leave some flexibility and room for the President to make his political judgment . On the issue of attire RoP 42 has already made it very clear
所謂衣飾的問題，本來《議事規則》第42條已經說得很清楚，我們本來就要衣裝端正和莊重，這句說話其實已說明一切，只是有人玩出火，其實那些衣裝打扮肯定不屬於莊重，但我們今天要"畫公仔畫出腸"。
We should be properly dressed and behave with decorum in the first place . The provision has actually said everything . It is only that some people crossed the line
對於眾多修訂，我對這一項反而有點保留，因為我認為時代會轉變，衣飾也會轉變。
In fact the way they dress certainly lacked decorum . Yet today we need to state the obvious . Among the numerous amendments I have some reservations about this one because I think that as time goes by dress styles will change
因此，我希望日後的立法會主席能夠帶有空間審視議員衣飾的問題。
For this reason I hope that the future President of the Legislative Council will allow some room for examination of the dress code for Members
所以，我覺得香港的年輕人，特別是我們要吸引初創企業，令他們願意在香港生根，就不只是局長今天在回覆中說設有很多基金，撥了多少錢。
Therefore I think for the benefit of our young people in Hong Kong especially as we wish to attract start - ups and make them willing to take root in Hong Kong it takes more than what the Secretary said in his reply today about setting up a host of funds or allocating how much money
其實，局方真的要告訴我們，現在有哪幾類的初創企業是結連哪幾類的科技，同時有否結合大學創科的成果。
In fact the Bureau really has to tell us what categories of start - ups are linked to what types of technology and also whether they are combined with the results of university research and development on innovation and technology
我們真的要有一個高瞻遠矚的委員會，協助這些人創業的成果在香港落地生根，這也是再工業化的一個新方向。
We really need to have a forward - looking committee to help the results of these peoples entrepreneurship to take root in Hong Kong and this is also a new direction of re - industrialization
議事規則委員會主席謝偉俊議員剛才說出了數個重點，例如今次的修訂包括服飾、罰款、選舉主席的程序，大家對這些也沒有很大的反對意見，唯獨引起大家關注的，就是田北辰議員剛才所說的，即是委員會的委員人數上限和議員可參與的委員會數目。
Mr Paul TSE Chairman of CRoP has mentioned several key points a moment ago . For instance the amendments proposed this time around include those concerning attire penalties as well as the procedures of election of chairman to which Members do not have strong objection . The only matter that has aroused Members concern is what mentioned by Mr Michael TIEN just now that is setting a cap on the membership size for committees and the maximum number of committees that each Member can serve on
我想特別藉此機會談談這方面。
I would like to take this opportunity to talk about this issue in particular
未來的議會將會有90位議員，以往一些委員會的委員人數較多，以我擔任主席的保安事務委員會為例，以往一直也有40人，每次開會之前，我也要等待10分鐘以上，等到至少三分之一的委員出席才可以開會，因而浪費了很多討論的時間。
Some committees had relatively more members in the past . Take the Panel on Security which I serve as the Chairman as an example there were always 40 members in the past . Before each meeting I had to wait for more than 10 minutes until at least one third of the members were present before I could start the meeting thus wasting a lot of discussion time
將來的議員人數增加至90人後，如果有60人、70人參加委員會的話，我相信等待開會的時間會更長，這亦不是大家想看到的。
When the number of Members increases to 90 in the future I believe the waiting time for the meeting to start will be even longer if a committee has 60 or 70 members . This is not what we wish to see either
所以，大家便會想，不如採用一種更有效的方法讓大家開會。
Therefore we would think that we had better adopt a more effective approach to proceed with our meetings
很多反對或有保留的議員自己也說了，即使不是委員也可以參加事務委員會的會議，說出他想說的意見。
Many of those Members who oppose or have reservations on the amendment have said themselves that they can still attend a Panel meeting and put forth their views even if they are not its members
真正的投票權，其實更重要的就是在今天的大會，以及財務委員會或法案委員會等。
As a matter of fact the real right to vote exists in a Council meeting that we are holding today and the Finance Committee or bills committees etc which is actually more important
所以，事務委員會的投票權是否真的那麼重要，或者是否有需要投票，這是值得大家認真深思的。
So whether the right to vote in the Panels is really that important or whether there is a need to vote at all are what we should consider seriously
第二，我明白有些"單頭"或獨立的議員擔心主要的政黨或其他政黨會壟斷事務委員會，不讓"單頭"的議員參加，但絕對不是這樣的。
Second I understand that some singleton or independent Members are worried that the major or other political parties would dominate the Panels and exclude those singleton Members from joining the Panels but this is definitely not the case
代理主席，議事規則委員會及政府帳目委員會現時均設有一個恆常機 制，不同黨派的議員會互相協調委員的比例，讓每個黨派甚至乎獨立的議員也有機會參加，這是非正式的機制。
Deputy President both CRoP and the Public Accounts Committee currently have a standing mechanism under which Members from different parties and camps would coordinate the composition of membership such that Members from each party and camp and even independent Members can have the opportunity to participate . This is an informal mechanism
即使是正式的機制，立法會也是有的。
Speaking of a formal mechanism the Legislative Council has that in place as well
例如我們要到外地進行訪問，需要派不同黨派的代表參與，立法會便有一個現成的機制，決定每個黨派選派甚麼人、有多少個席位。
For instance when we need to send representatives from different parties and camps to participate in an overseas visit the Legislative Council has an established mechanism in place to decide who will be selected from each party and camp as well as the number of places allocated to them
所以，不論是正式或非正式的途徑，其實我們都是有的，讓不同黨派甚至乎獨立的議員可以參加事務委員會，並不存在大家擔心的壟斷問題。
Therefore in fact we already have such mechanisms in place be they formal or informal to allow Members from different parties and camps and even independent Members to join the Panels . There is no such problem as domination that some Members are worried about
另一個問題是，這樣會否影響議員的工作呢？
Another issue is will it affect the work of Members?
我不是公務員及資助機構員工事務委員會的委員，但我兩天前也在會議上為入境事務處表達了一些意見，同樣沒有人阻撓我，這亦不會削弱議員監察政府的權力。
While I am not a member of the Panel on Public Service I could still express some views to the Immigration Department at its meeting held two days ago . Again no one stopped me and this will not undermine Members power to monitor the Government either
所以，我覺得今次修改《議事規則》是完善了立法會的制度，讓議會更有效率。
Therefore I think the amendments to RoP this time around will improve the system of the Legislative Council and enhance the efficiency of the legislature
議員的憂慮，我是理解亦同意的，不過，其實已經有相應的機制處理，所以無須那麼擔心。
I understand and agree with Members concerns but there is already a corresponding mechanism in place to deal with them hence we need not be so worried
周浩鼎議員動議的"啟動本港再工業化發展的新階段"議案。
Mr Holden CHOW will move a motion on Commencing a new phase in Hong Kongs development of re - industrialization
稍後我會先請周浩鼎議員發言及動議議案，然後請吳永嘉議員發言，但他在現階段不可動議修正案。
Later I will first call upon Mr Holden CHOW to speak and move the motion . Then I will call upon Mr Jimmy NG to speak but he may not move the amendment at this stage
我現在請周浩鼎議員發言及動議議案。
I now call upon Mr Holden CHOW to speak and move the motion
主席，我今天就"啟動本港再工業化發展的新階段"提出議案辯論。
President today I propose a motion debate on Commencing a new phase in Hong Kongs development of re - industrialization
我首先代表民主建港協進聯盟感謝以下人士，包括工業界立法會議員吳永嘉、香港工業總會主席葉中賢博士、香港大學經濟及工商管理學院鄧希煒教授、職業訓練局、生產力促進局及一批本地工業界的持份者，在過去一段時間給我很多寶貴的指導及意見，讓我能完成撰寫這份"香港再工業化"的研究建議書。
First of all on behalf of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB I would like to thank the following people including Mr Jimmy NG Member of the Legislative Council from the industrial sector Dr Daniel YIP Chairman of the Federation of Hong Kong Industries Prof TANG Hei - wai from the Hong Kong University Business School the Vocational Training Council VTC the Hong Kong Productivity Council and a group of stakeholders from the local industrial sector for giving me a lot of valuable guidance and advice over a period of time which has enabled me to complete this study proposal on Re - industrialization of Hong Kong
建議書已於早前送遞給各位議員同事，讓大家參閱，亦歡迎大家指正。
The proposal has been sent to Members earlier for reference and I welcome Members comments
昨天亦舉行了記者招待會發布，這份報告亦已上載於我的Facebook專頁，如果公眾有興趣，歡迎下載這份"香港再工業化"的研究報告。
A press conference on the report was held yesterday and the report has also been uploaded to my Facebook page . If members of the public are interested they are welcome to download this research report on Re - industrialization of Hong Kong
主席，香港的經濟長期側重金融及地產，被批評為產業過分單一，經濟增長的動力亦不足。
President Hong Kongs economy has long tilted towards the finance and real estate industries and has been criticized for its uniformity in industrial structure as well as lacking the momentum to drive economic growth
這些都是需要解決的問題。
These are the problems that need to be solved
為了促進香港產業多元化、增加新的經濟增長空間，特別希望為青年人提供更多就業出路，我今天就"本港再工業化"提出議案辯論，主要是期望及促請政府能夠結合"十四五"規劃及創新科技大量投入的發展機遇，未來可以加大步伐，推動本港"工業4.0"的發展。
In order to promote industrial diversification in Hong Kong create new room for economic growth and in particular to provide more employment opportunities for young people I propose a motion debate on Re - industrialization of Hong Kong today . By means of this motion debate I mainly hope to urge the Government to consolidate the development opportunities arising from the 14th Five - Year Plan and the massive investment in innovation and technology . In addition the pace of promoting the development of Industry 4.0 in Hong Kong can be stepped up in the future
主席，首先，我要強調，今天我們所說"工業4.0"的再工業化，絕對不是指要走回頭路，返回香港六七十年代勞動密集型的工業，並非指要做回那些勞動密集型的"穿膠花"工業或一些低附加值產品的製造業。
President first of all I have to stress that when we talk about the re - industrialization of Industry 4.0 today we definitely do not mean going back to the labour - intensive industries of the 1960s and 1970s in Hong Kong nor do we mean going back to those labour - intensive plastic - flower making industries or the manufacturing of some low value - added products
我們今天所說的"工業4.0"，是要借助新的科技、智能生產線的使用，達致使用更少用地，透過一些新的科技及智能生產線，來生產高產量、高質量及高附加值的產品。
The Industry 4.0 we are talking about today is the use of new technology and smart production lines to produce high yield high quality and high value - added products with reduced use of land
"鬥便宜"是沒有出路的，現時所說的是要"鬥質素"。
There is no way out to compete for the cheapest prices so we are talking about competing for quality
同時，透過今次的"工業4.0"，希望可以創造更多不同技術含量的職位及工種，包括一些認識科技使用的工種，為青年人創造更多就業崗位。
Meanwhile through this Industry 4.0 it is hoped that more jobs and job types involving different skill contents can be created including job types requiring knowledge in technology application so that more jobs can be created for young people . DAB believes that the future Industry 4.0 in Hong Kong should be developed in two directions in parallel
民建聯認為，未來的香港"工業4.0"應該從兩個方向發展，雙線並行：第一，促進傳統工業智能化；第二，推動高新科技產品研發及生產，這兩個大方向作雙線發展。
First the promotion of intelligentization of traditional industries . Second to the promotion of the research development and production of products with new and high technology . These two major development directions should go in parallel
我先說傳統工業智能化。
Let me start with the intelligentization of traditional industries
現時，香港仍然有不少傳統製造業是以香港作為基地的，但它們已經逐步邁向使用智能化生產線。
At present many traditional manufacturing industries still have their base in Hong Kong but they have gradually moved towards the use of smart production lines
當中包括食品加工製造業，一些香港的保健藥業，它們依然堅守在香港的陣地，而它們的產品其實都是大量外銷到海外，有很好的口碑，為香港的品牌建立一個很好的聲譽。
These include the food processing and manufacturing industries and some of Hong Kongs health - related pharmaceutical industry which still hold fast to their position in Hong Kong . In fact their products are exported overseas in large quantities with positive word of mouth building good reputation for the Hong Kong brand
我且以食品加工業作為其中一個例子向大家講述。
I will use the food processing industry as an example to illustrate my point
本港現時合共有1,400多間企業從事食品加工業，僱用接近29,000名員工。
Currently there are some 1 400 enterprises engaging in food processing industry in Hong Kong employing close to 29 000 employees
2019年食品加工業的貿易出口總額高達538億港元，當中有四成七輸往內地。
In 2019 the total export value of the food processing industry was as high as HK53.8 billion of which 47 % were exported to the Mainland
理由在於無論是內地或海外，他們均對香港產出的食品加工製品的食物安全標準有信心。
The reason for this is that customers both in the Mainland and overseas have confidence in the food safety standards of processed food products produced in Hong Kong
食物安全標準是大家重視的，說的是高質量的體現。
We attach great importance to food safety standards which is considered a manifestation of high quality
主席，環顧世界其他成功工業化的地區，例如以色列，當地在支援傳統工業升級、採用智能生產線均做得很好。
President if we look at other successful industrialized regions in the world such as Israel they have done a good job in supporting the upgrading of traditional industries and adopting smart production lines
舉例來說，以色列在2015年時曾做一次統計，有超過10,700間傳統製造業，是製作傳統皮革產品的，但以色列政府下決心撥資源、資金，供他們安裝智能生產線。
For example in 2015 Israel conducted a survey and found that there were more than 10 700 enterprises engaging in the traditional manufacturing industry of making traditional leather products and the Israeli Government committed resources and funds to assist them in installing smart production lines
結果，當局在很短時間內批出了1,300個申請，讓這些企業全部升級轉型，用新式的智能生產線，提高了產品的質量。
As a result 1 300 applications were approved within a very short period of time . As a result all these enterprises were upgraded and transformed with new smart production lines which have improved the quality of their products
主席，接下來我們就要提到，在"工業4.0"之中，如果要支援傳統工業智能化，應該有些甚麼措施呢？
President next we have to talk about what measures should be taken to support the intelligentization of traditional industries in the Industry 4.0
首先，我希望特區政府能為本地製造業佔本地生產總值設一個指標百分比。
First of all I hope that the SAR Government will set a target percentage for the local manufacturing industry in terms of GDP
其實，設定指標百分比，可以幫助大家量度政策績效、成果。
In fact setting a target percentage can help us measure the performance and results of policies
定有指標後，一旦做到了，看到達標了，整個社會就有信心，這亦可以幫助促進政策安排。
With a set target society as a whole will gain confidence once they see that the target is achieved and this will also facilitate the promotion of policy arrangements
另一方面，我們希望政府能夠提供更多工業用地。
On the other hand we hope that the Government can provide more industrial land
當然，現時看到將軍澳將會有一個先進製造業中心，預計明年落成。
Of course we note that the Advanced Manufacturing Centre in Tseung Kwan O is expected to be completed next year ie
不過，我們認為還可以有更多選擇，包括在新界北的新田落馬洲發展樞紐已經預留57公頃作企業及科技用途。
2022 . However we think there can be more options including the 57 hectares of land already reserved for enterprise and technology use at San TinLok Ma Chau Development Node in New Territories North
該處用地可以配合落馬洲河套區的高端製造業發展，亦可以支援一些傳統工業，讓他們把廠房遷到該處，安裝新式的智能生產線，再加上一些集中的物流、排污配套，就可以形成一個新的工業集群。
The site can complement the development of high - end manufacturing in the Lok Ma Chau Loop while providing support for some traditional industries by allowing them to relocate their factories there with new smart production lines which together with centralized logistics and sewage support can form a new industrial cluster
這些也是我們走訪工業界代表提出的多項寶貴建議，我們希望透過今天的辯論，可以向局方反映。
These are a number of valuable suggestions made by representatives of the industrial sector during our visits and we hope that through todays debate we can reflect them to the Bureau
當然，新界北有一個好處就是毗鄰內地，這些物流的配套一定有利於香港的進展。
Of course the merit of New Territories North is its proximity to the Mainland and these logistics support facilities will certainly be conducive to the progress of Hong Kong
最後，由於時間所限，我簡單說出最後的建議。
Finally due to the time constraint I would like to briefly state my last suggestion
我們認為一定要加強宣傳，因為很多香港市民大眾對工業的印象仍然停留在六七十年代那種舊式勞動密集工業的觀感，他們對現時新式"工業4.0"智能生產沒有認知。
We think that publicity must be stepped up as many people in Hong Kong still have the impression that industries are referring to the old labour - intensive industries of the 1960s and 1970s and they know nothing about the new Industry 4.0 smart production
我認為應該與職業訓練局加強宣傳，讓大家知道新型的工業究竟是甚麼一回事、使用的IT技術究竟是甚麼一回事、使用的技術工人究竟是甚麼一回事，有如德國、奧地利般，他們很重視技術人才，社會對此的認受亦很高。
I think we should step up publicity with VTC to let people know what the new industries are all about what the IT technology used is all about and what the skilled workers engaged are all about . As in the case of Germany and Austria they attach great importance to skilled talents who are highly regarded by society