Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
隨着計劃營運經年，資產值越來越大，可以由資產攤分固定成本，達致規模經濟效益，從而降低成本佔管理資產的百分比。
As the MPF System has been implemented for years the total asset value is increasingly substantial . The Administration should consider the practice of sharing the fixed costs from the total asset so as to achieve economies of scale thereby lowering the percentage of costs in the total assets under management
因此，如繼續以百分比作為強積金收費基準，未來將變得越來越不合理。
If percentage is continuously adopted as the MPF fee charging benchmark it will become increasingly unreasonable in the future
同時，我們看到香港有不少退休金計劃及英國、澳洲等地的退休金行政費已採用固定收費模式。
Meanwhile the approach of fixed charges is adopted by many retirement schemes in Hong Kong . The practice of fixed charges collected by retirement funds as administration fees is also implemented in countries such as the United Kingdom and Australia
因此，我們建議積金局可以積極研究規定向強積金計劃受託人收取定額行政費，再加上通脹作調整，取代現時從資產總值抽取固定百分比作為收費的做法，而我剛才亦已談及這一點。
Hence we propose that MPFA should proactively examine the practice of requiring MPF scheme trustees to collect fixed administration fees in addition to the inflationary adjustment with a view to replacing the current practice of collecting such fees at fixed percentages of the total asset values of MPF accounts
同時，我們亦建議政府進一步增加強積金可投資的產品類別，包括現時機場第三條跑道等公共基建的債券，又或是與通脹掛鈎及與外匯基金回報掛鈎的強積金產品，以及全不收取任何管理費的銀行儲蓄形式投資產品。
I have also talked about this approach just now . Meanwhile we also propose that the Government should further broaden the product types available for investment under the MPF System including bonds of public infrastructure such as the current third runway at the airport; or MPF products linked to inflation rates and Exchange Fund returns; and investment products resembling bank deposits that charge no management fees
預設投資基金雖然可以為不懂得投資或選擇強積金產品的"打工仔"提供所謂"自動波"的投資方法，收費亦比較低，但卻無法為強積 金供款人提供穩定或較具吸引力的回報。
Although default investment funds are able to provide wage earners who do not know how to make investments or select MPF product types with products that can operate automatically on their own and with relatively low management fees MPF contributors are not provided with stable or more attractive returns
由於部分市民期望強積金能夠獲得高回報，又或是實質保本及與通脹掛鈎，故民主建港協進聯盟過去數年一直建議政府當局應該提供與外匯基金回報掛鈎及與通脹掛鈎的兩種基金產品。
Given that members of the public wish to attain high returns from their MPF investments or have their capital preservation in real terms guaranteed and linked to inflation rates over the past few years the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB has been proposing that the Administration should introduce two additional fund products linked respectively to Exchange Fund returns and inflation rates
前一項建議傾向容許強積金供款人能夠將自己的累計權益放於外匯基金，其具體操作方法可以是增設一項與外匯基金掛鈎的強積金成分基金，併入外匯基金的投資組合中進行投資，並由香港金融管理局作為公共信託人，讓市民透過有關產品進行較佳的投資選擇。
The first proposal allows MPF contributors to allocate their accrued benefits to the Exchange Fund . The specific operational approach is to introduce an MPF constituent fund linked to the Exchange Fund and integrated into the investment portfolios of the Exchange Fund for investment . The Hong Kong Monetary Authority can act as its public trustee so that members of the public will be able to make a better investment choice through the relevant product
至於與通脹掛鈎的強積金成分基金產品，為了降低投資管理成本，我們建議將這類基金產品直接投資於政府的通脹掛鈎債券，即iBond。
As for the MPF constituent fund linked to inflation rates in order to lower investment and management costs we propose that this type of fund product should be directly invested in bonds linked to inflation rates operated by the Government that is iBond
此外，設立不收取管理費的銀行儲蓄形式強積金產品其實特別適合一些年長和接近退休年齡的僱員。
Moreover MPF products resembling bank deposits that charge no management fees are particularly suitable for some elderly employees as well as employees close to retirement age
我們建議當局應該考慮設立純屬銀行儲蓄形式的強積金產品，並由積金局管理，讓較年長如55歲或以上的計劃成員有一項新的選擇。
We propose that the authorities should consider introducing MPF products resembling bank deposits completely . To be managed by MPFA these products will provide a new choice for elderly MPF scheme members such as those at or over 55 years of age
此舉可以保障年近退休的人士，一旦他們在退休前的數年間遇上金融海嘯等經濟逆轉周期，便可完全鎖定作為退休之用的累算權益水平，避免他們原來的累算權益在退休前的數年間因市場波動而被侵蝕。
The provision of these products will provide protection for those who are close to retirement age . In the event that they encounter a financial tsunami or an economic downturn cycle a few years before retirement they can be assured that their accrued benefits are completely fixed at the targeted level for their retirement use thereby pre - empting their originally accrued benefits from being eroded by market volatility a few years before their retirement
主席，強積金涉及"打工仔"經年累月的投資儲蓄，亦是他們退休後的重要收入來源。
President the MPF schemes involve investment savings made by wage earners for months and years . It is also their major source of income upon retirement
因此，我們十分希望當局能夠盡快落實強積金全自由行，讓僱員能夠完全自主地安排他們的投資。
For this reason we hope that the Administration will expeditiously implement full portability of MPF schemes thereby enabling employees to have full control over their investment strategy
事實上，政府數年前已要求積金局在3年內完成全自由行的部署，但至今我們仍只停留在與積金局和業界探討建立eMPF的中央電子平台，為全自由行鋪路。
As a matter of fact a few years ago the Government asked MPFA to complete mapping out the implementation of full portability within a period of three years . However to date we still remain at the stage of examining the issue with MPFA and the industry of putting in place an eMPF a centralized electronic platform so as to pave the way for full portability
其實民建聯希望政府能夠多做一步、多走一步，加緊進行相關工作。
In fact DAB hopes the Government can make an extra effort and take a further step to press ahead with the relevant work
最後，我亦希望政府能夠適當地檢討積金局未來的角色、功能和發展願景，因為只有透過改革積金局的職能和架構，才能為當局未來推動強積金產品及服務的長期發展開拓更廣闊的空間。
Finally I also hope that the Government will conduct a review of the future role function and vision of development of MPFA in an appropriate manner . This is because reforming the function and structure of MPFA is the only means to facilitate the Administration in exploring more extensive room in promoting the long - term development of MPF products and services in the future
代理主席，我現謹代根據《道路交通條例》第233條提出的擬議決議案小組委員會主席易志明議員作出報告。
Deputy President I will now report to this Council for Mr Frankie YICK Chairman of the Subcommittee on Proposed Resolution under Section 233 of the Road Traffic Ordinance Cap . 374
小組委員會舉行了一次會議，審議政府當局根據《道路交通條例》第233條提出的擬議決議案。
The Subcommittee has held one meeting to examine the Administrations proposed resolution under Section 233 of the Road Traffic Ordinance
小組委員會並不會提出任何修正案。
The Subcommittee will not propose any amendments
鑒於當局會提交《2017年道路交通條例草案》，將小型巴士的座位上限由16個增至19個，在審議擬議決議案期間，委員曾詢問當局會否考慮縮短現時小巴數目法定限定的有效期，例如由5年縮短至3年，以便在已加設座位的公共小巴投入服務後，再行檢討該法定限定，包括因應座位增加及減少路面車輛數目以紓緩交通擠塞和空氣污染的政策下，可考慮下調法定限定。
Given that the Administration will introduce the Road Traffic Amendment Bill 2017 which seeks to increase the maximum seating capacity of light buses from 16 to 19 seats in the course of deliberations on the proposed resolution members have asked if the Administration will consider shortening the existing effective period of the statutory limit on the number of PLBs for instance from five years to three years such that another review of the statutory limit can be conducted after those PLBs with increased seating capacity have come into service . Members hold that in tandem with the increase in seating capacity and taking into account the policy of reducing the number of vehicles on roads to ease traffic congestion and reduce air pollution considerations can be given to adjusting the statutory limit downward . In this connection members have noted that the statutory cap is only an upper limit on the number of vehicles which can be registered as PLBs
就此，委員察悉，該法定限定只是可予登記為公共小巴的車輛的上限數目，而且多年來，市場對公共小巴服務的需求大致保持平穩，專線小巴及紅線小巴的出車率甚高，加上維持穩定的經營環境，有利公共小巴業界作出投資計劃，改善服務。
In addition the demand for PLB service has remained generally stable over the years . The utilization of green minibuses and red minibuses are high . Further maintaining a stable operating environment for the PLB trade will be able to facilitate the trades plans for investment and service improvement
因此，當局認為維持現時的法定限定5年屬恰當。
Hence the Administration considers it appropriate to maintain the current statutory limit of five years
委員認同當局採取增加座位而非增加車輛數目的做法，以應付乘客需求。
Members approve of the Administrations approach to increase the number of seats instead of increasing the number of vehicles to meet passenger demand
鑒於公共小巴司機短缺及老齡化的問題嚴重，增加車輛數目其實亦未必切實可行。
In fact given the acute shortage and ageing problems of PLB drivers increasing the number of vehicles may not be practicable
另一方面，委員要求當局推出措施，包括降低公共小巴駕駛執照的批核門檻及精簡相關程序等，以協助業界招聘司機及吸引年青人入行。
On the other hand members have requested the Administration to introduce measures such as lowering the threshold of granting PLB driving licences and streamlining the relevant procedures to facilitate recruitment of drivers by the trade and attracting young people to join the trade
此外，委員亦對公共小巴業界面對的經營困難表達關注。
Moreover members have also expressed concern about the operational difficulties faced by the PLB trade
委員指出，隨着新鐵路線陸續開通，小巴業界遇到的挑戰越來越大，委員促請當局推出措施，包括透過開辦新的公共小巴路線支援業界，特別是開辦為偏遠地區及並非由新鐵路站步行可達的地方提供服務的路線。
Members have pointed out that with the opening of new railway lines one after another in recent years the PLB trade is meeting greater challenges . Members have urged the Administration to support the PLB trade by introducing measures such as launching new PLB routes in particular routes serving the remote areas and those areas not within walking distance from the new railway stations
以上是我代小組委員會主席易志明議員提交的報告。
This is the report I submit for Mr Frankie YICK Chairman of the Subcommittee
即使在一些偏遠地區仍有很大需求，但增加座位才是一種較為有效和實際的做法。
Bearing in mind the fact that there is still a great demand for PLBs in some remote areas increasing the seating capacity will be a more effective and practicable solution
副局長剛才也提到，接下來的《2017年道路交通條例草案》亦會討論把公共小巴的座位數目由16個增至19個，而我亦再次加入了有關法案委員會。
The Under Secretary has also mentioned just now that the Road Traffic Amendment Bill 2017 seeks to increase the maximum seating capacity of PLBs from 16 to 19 seats . I have also joined the relevant Bills Committee
當然，我認為座位數目應該增至20個，因為正如我剛才所說，在很多屬於新市鎮的地區，公共小巴是它們主要或唯一的交通工具。
Of course I hold that the seating capacity should be increased to 20 . As I mentioned just now in many areas of new towns PLBs serve as the major or only transport mode
代理主席，我謹此陳辭，多謝。
Deputy President I so submit . Thank you
近年來，不同政府部門不時被揭露遺失含有市民個人資料的儲存裝置，可以說是一而再，再而三地犯下低級錯誤。
In recent years it has been revealed over and over again that some government departments have lost their storage devices containing the personal data of the public . One may say that these government departments have time and again made the same infantile error
這一系列如此荒謬的做法，選舉事務處絕對須要承擔責任，並須馬上作出檢討、問責及堵塞漏洞。
REO should take the responsibility for a host of ridiculous practices and it should conduct a review immediately in order to ascertain accountability and plug the loopholes
但是，今天鄭松泰議員的議案，是要求運用《立法會條例》，調查選舉事務處遺失載有選民資料的手提電腦的事件。
However today Dr CHENG Chung - tais motion requests the invocation of the Legislative Council Ordinance to inquire into the loss of REOs notebook computers
但是，我聽到他的總結，指這是一宗普通的失竊案。
Nevertheless he summarized in his conclusion that it was nothing but a common burglary case
對此，我絕對不能夠認同。
As such I cannot really go along with that
我認為這是一宗很嚴重、很嚴重的失竊案。
I consider it a very very serious burglary case
所以，政府部門必須在檢討報告內，讓我們看到你們在認真處理此事，而最後亦會有人要問責。
For that reason the Government department should show us in its review report that the incident is dealt with in a serious manner and eventually someone has to be held accountable
除了副局長剛才所說，在事件發生後的兩個月，政府官員已多次來到立法會解釋。
Aside from what the Under Secretary has said just now government officials have come to the Legislative Council to explain the incident for many times in the two months after the occurrence of the incident
立法會政制事務委員會在4月11日舉辦了特別會議，邀請選舉事務處人員來交代，他們同時亦講述了部門的初步檢討方向及考慮採取的改善措施。
The Legislative Councils Panel on Constitutional Affairs held a special meeting on 11 April and invited staff of REO to give explanation . The official concerned explained the direction of the preliminary review and the improvement measures being considered
除此之外，警方亦已將事件列作盜竊案處理。
Besides the Police have also classified the case as burglary
個人資料私隱專員公署亦展開了跟進的調查。
The Office of the Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data has also launched a follow - up investigation
正如我剛才所說，應要為事件負責的人是誰亦已經很清楚，這事件並非撲朔迷離的懸案。
As I said just now it is quite clear who should be held responsible and it is simply not a mysterious case at all
問題發展至今，關鍵在於要求有關的職員、官員以至問責班子承擔相應的責任。
Given the development of incident to date the crux of the matter is the responsibility of the relevant staff government officials or even accountability officials
而我認為，這未必是《立法會條例》最後可以產生的效果，我看不到專責委員會可以達致甚麼實質作用；相反，更可能會虛耗立法會的資源。
I consider that the invocation of the Legislative Council Ordinance may not necessarily be able to deliver the result . I cannot see how a select committee may achieve any actual effect . On the contrary it will waste the resources of the Legislative Council
甚至，我覺得政府屆時最好交出須問責的人，清楚交代事情，這樣政府制度才可以自我完善。
Or perhaps the Government may now point out who should be held responsible and explain the entire incident . In this way the system of the Government can seek self - improvement
這亦未必清楚。
It is rather unclear
如果現時做，其實並非適當的時候。
It may not be the right time for us to conduct the inquiry now
在這裏我必須強調，我們並不認為《立法會條例》不可被提及、亦不是禁忌。
I must reiterate that we do not think the Legislative Council Ordinance is a taboo that cannot be mentioned
相反，《立法會條例》是立法會很重要和有力的武器，只應該在適當的場合和地方使用。
On the contrary we think the Legislative Council Ordinance is an important and powerful weapon of the Legislative Council which should only be deployed at the right time and the right place
我們認為選舉事務處及當局犯下數次過失，的確是非常不妥當。
We consider that REO and the Administration have made several mistakes which are rather inappropriate
當然，未來我們應該繼續要求當局問責，找出失職部門，要求有關人士承擔相應責任，合理地處罰與事件相關人員，以及檢討整個問題。
Of course in the future we should continue to ask the Administration to assume responsibility to find out the department which was in dereliction of duty and request the relevant persons to take the responsibility to mete out punitive measures to the persons involved and to review the entire issue
我們要求當局在報告裏面，檢討及改善這些措施，我相信這是當局應該第一時間做的。
We request the Administration to review and improve such measures in its report . I believe this should be the first thing the Administration should do
所以，我覺得與其花時間辯論是否要成立專責委員會，我們更加應該追討責任，要求選舉事務處及政府各部門在事件中汲取教訓，改善處理資料的相關程序，以及強化對選民資料的保障。
For that reason I consider that instead of wasting time on debating whether or not a select committee should be formed we should find out which person should be held liable and we should request REO and all government departments to learn from the incident to improve the relevant procedure of handling information and to enhance the protection of the personal data of electors
這樣才可以既問責，亦能夠避免事件再次發生，令市民更加感到放心。
It is only in this way that we can uphold the accountability system and prevent the occurrence of similar incidents and further reassure members of the public
如果真的有人犯了錯，正如我剛才所說：錯就是錯，我們一定會用是其是、非其非的態度，要求問責。
If someone has really made a mistake as I have said just now a mistake is a mistake . We will call a spade a spade and request that person to assume responsibility
但是，我們不是要保護誰，更加重要的是要保護制度，保護《立法會條例》不會被濫用，保護它在適當的時間使用，令它能夠保持其效用，每次都可以很好地發揮它的作用。
We will not protect anyone . What is more important is that we should protect the system and the Legislative Council Ordinance to prevent it from being abused and to ensure its efficacy by invoking it at the right time so that it may perform its functions properly
所以，我本人覺得，今次這事件引用這項條例調查，實在未必有必要，而且亦不會達到任何實際效果。
For that reason I personally consider that it is actually not necessary for us to invoke the Legislative Council Ordinance to conduct the inquiry and I think that we may not achieve any actual effect
老實說，泛民同事之前說得咬牙切齒，我覺得可能是政治表態。
Just now our pan - democratic colleagues criticized us ferociously but I think they were possibly just making a political gesture
後來我看看投票結果，發現在表決180多項修正案時，留在會議廳投票的泛民同事少之又少。
But when I looked at the voting results afterwards I found that only a handful of pan - democratic Members stayed in the Chamber to cast their votes on the 180 - odd amendments
我希望大家在議會裏，用是其是，非其非的態度。
I hope that we in the legislature should call a spade a spade
剛才政制及內地事務局和選舉事務處說會採取一系列行動，我們要看看他們交出來的結果，是否真的可以做到問責，真的可以做到檢討事件，真的可以改善問題，堵塞漏洞。
This time around we request Just now the Constitutional and Mainland Affairs Bureau and REO said they would take a host of actions . We should see if their results could really manifest accountability if the incident is really reviewed and improvement could really be made by plugging the loopholes
如果不能夠做到，我亦會跟議會所有同事，一起向局方和處方追究責任。
If not I will follow all colleagues in the legislature to hold the Bureau and department responsible
因此，我反對鄭松泰議員今天這項議案。
For that reason I oppose to the motion moved by Dr CHENG Chung - tai today
希望大家實事求是，不要做"標題黨"。
I hope Members can be practical and realistic . We should not become any clickbait
我們很清晰表達了我們的立場，希望大家不要曲解稍後的結果。
We have expressed our stance clearly and hopefully Members will not misinterpret the subsequent results
代理主席，建制派同事一邊說不要亂扣帽子，不要將他們與"恐同"掛鈎，但今早周浩鼎議員的發言卻無限上綱上線到極致。
Deputy Chairman while Honourable colleagues from the pro - establishment camp urge others to stop besmirching them and pinning them as homophobians the speech by Mr Holden CHOW this morning escalated the issue beyond the very extreme
我們今天辯論的是《私營骨灰安置所條例草案》，老實說，真的再走一百步也未到他害怕的打開缺口令同性婚姻合法化。
Today our debate is on the Private Columbarium Bill the Bill . Honestly it is too far - fetched to talk about opening a gap for legalization of same - sex marriage . We may not have reached that stage even if we take a hundred steps forward
其實，整個討論與同性婚姻合法化無關，我們並非討論這事，但他卻牽頭提出討論，還要不斷表示不可這樣做。
In fact the legality of same - sex marriage is irrelevant to the present discussion . We are not discussing this issue . Why did he initiate such a discussion and keep saying that the proposal is unacceptable?
代理主席，今次的辯論真的令人嘆為觀止。
Deputy Chairman the debate this time is an eye - opener
我想告訴何君堯議員，我作為一個關注動物權益的議員，認為貓狗也有權利，更何況是人呢！
I would like to tell Dr Junius HO that as a Member concerned about animal rights I think even cats and dogs have rights not to mention humans!
我認為政治辯論歸政治辯論，他無須打壓小眾為自己贏取掌聲。
I think political debates should be confined to political debates . He should not suppress the minorities to win an applause for himself
他們還敢膽說香港是一個文明、進步、開放的城市，這是甚麼言論？
How dare they say that Hong Kong is a civilized advanced and open city? . What kind of remarks is this?
代理主席，對於今天這項討論，我相信同事並非想"偷襲"。
Deputy Chairman regarding the discussion today I trust Honourable colleagues have no intention of springing a surprise attack
我們連反性傾向歧視立法也未開始，十畫還未有一撇，他們即帶動全社會討論，指做法有如贊成同性婚姻合法化。
We have not yet started working on legislating against discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation not the slightest sign of progress has been seen so far . Yet they provoke society as a whole to engage in the discussion claiming approval of the arrangement is tantamount to supporting the legalization of same - sex marriage
我再一次強調，今天不是討論同性婚姻應否合法化，不要轉移視線，我們所說的是做人應有之義。
I stress once again that we are not discussing whether or not same - sex marriage should be legalized . Do not shift the focus . We are talking about the righteous duty of men to uphold justice
人皆生而平等，享有造物主賦予他 們的不可剝奪的權利，包括生命、自由和追求幸福的權利。
All men are born equal that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness
為了保護這些權利，人們才在他們之間建立政府，而政府的正當權力，則來自被統治者的同意。
To secure these rights governments are instituted among men with their just powers derived from the consent of the governed . All men are born equal
同事提出的修正案，只希望讓他們在一個傷痛的情況下，以一個合法的親屬關係他們真的是親屬，"老兄"取回他們應有的東西。
Colleagues proposed the amendments to allow them to claim the things to which they are entitled in the lawful capacity of a relative―they are really the relative of the deceased buddy―in that mournful setting
然而，如果香港是一個文明、進步而開放的城市，我們便要為人皆生而平等的每位香港人，每位市民設想。
No he surely does not . However if Hong Kong is a civilized advanced and open city we should address the concerns of every citizen and every Hongkonger who is born equal
這絕對不是兵臨城下，不是特洛伊木馬，亦不是"這樣的畜牲怎可以仁慈之心對待"別說是民主派議員，我相信部分建制派議員聽到這句話，也會感到相當不舒服。
Definitely we are not in a situation where the city is surrounded by enemies nor is this a Trojan horse . This is not a situation that warrants the remark How can we treat a beast like that with kind - heartedness―not to mention that Members from the pro - democracy camp would find this disturbing I believe some Members from the pro - establishment camp also feel uncomfortable upon hearing such remarks
這種話既傷人心，又無法達到辯論的目標，只是把整個辯論焦點轉移至另一範疇，指出做法打開同性婚姻的缺口。
Such remarks hurt . Besides the remarks serve no purpose in the debate other than shifting the focus to another aspect claiming the arrangement will open a gap for same - sex marriage
今天早上，我聽到陳志全議員的發言，甚為感動，他說到流淚，那不是假的，但他並非聲淚俱下，並非如周浩鼎議員形容有些同事表現誇張。
This morning I was moved by Mr CHAN Chi - chuen as I heard him speak in tears . He did not fake it . Yet he did not burst out crying not as exaggerated as described by Mr Holden CHOW who claimed that certain colleagues were overreacting
這是一個進步城市應有的表現嗎？
Should an advanced city behave like this?
各位，事實上，這個故事有很多不同的解讀。
Honourable Members in fact the story has many different interpretations
如果東郭先生知道香港的立法會今天辯論可否讓一位同性戀者領取其伴侶的骨灰，我相信懷着仁慈之心的他應不會反對。
If Mr Dongguo knew that the Legislative Council of Hong Kong was debating whether or not a homosexual should be allowed to claim the ashes of his deceased partner I trust he who was kind - hearted would not oppose it . Sometimes our exchanges during debates are like flashes of lightning
我們的辯論有時候確實是電光火石，建制派與民主派的同事可以就條文有很多爭拗，唇槍舌劍，這並不是問題，但我想強調，對於社會上一群很需要照顧的小眾及弱勢人士，議員一兩句話便已在他們的傷口灑鹽。
Colleagues from the pro - establishment camp and the pro - democracy camp may dispute hotly over the provision and engage in a war of words . There is no problem with this . Yet I have to emphasize that to the minorities and the disadvantaged who need to be taken care of in society a line or two from Members will rub salt into their wound
作為一位立法會議員，我們在立法機關的一言一語均可能成為未來倡議和制訂政策的基礎，議員不可繼續錯用比喻、寓言，將一些令人感覺不舒服的比喻，像帽子般套在一些弱勢人士、小眾身上，將心比己，帶着同理心想一下，如果我們是小眾、是弱勢人士，我們又有何感覺呢？
As a Member of the Legislative Council each and every sentence we say in the legislature may form the foundation for advocacy and formulation of policies in future . Members should stop using metaphors and fables wrongly . Imposing such disturbing metaphors on the disadvantaged and the minorities is comparable to labelling
我再一次強調，此刻沒有人要討論同性婚姻合法化。
Once again I stress that no one is intending to discuss the legalization of same - sex marriage
早在選舉期間，我與周浩鼎議員辯論時已指出社會未有倡議此事，無須刻意提及。
As early as the time of election I pointed out in a debate with Mr Holden CHOW that society had not advocated the issue so it was unnecessary to bring it up deliberately
可是，他卻一而再、再而三地在不同場合提出來，我實在不明白，他是要修補還是擴大社會撕裂。
However he has brought up the issues time and again on various occasions . I really do not understand if he is trying to narrow or widen the disputes in society
正如何俊賢議員剛才所說，可能部分建制派同事不會有太大意見，說不定他們的立場不同。
As Mr Steven HO said earlier some colleagues from the pro - establishment might not have strong views on this and they may perhaps have a different view
這是一場自由的辯論，但無論如何，我希望各位建制派同事不要傷及無辜及弱勢人士，不要錯用"畜牲"的比喻。
This is an open debate . No matter how I hope colleagues from the pro - establishment camp will not hurt the innocent and the disadvantaged . Stop using that wrong metaphor of beasts
然而，正如我剛才提到，現時針對這次事件相關的檢討及調查已經是"坐五望六"，就以已確定的5項大大小小檢討、審查及調查而言，它們的性質、檢討和調查的目的及範圍、調查組織的職能和權力各有不同。
Nevertheless as I mentioned earlier there are already five or six reviews and investigations concerning this incident at present . In regard to the five reviews audits and investigations of various scales which are confirmed to be conducted the nature objective and scope of the reviews and investigations are different while the functions and jurisdictions of different investigatory organizations are also varied