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說到底，我們希望透過今天的中止待續議案，給政府最簡單和最基本的壓力，無論議案通過與否，最少我們昨天的而且確有多點時間討論與小市民最低限度現時正在收看電視直播的小市民非常有關的議題，便是當有一天，你雖不想、但遇到官非，而你沒有錢的時候應怎麼辦？香港的法律制度能否幫助自己，能否做到《基本法》所提及的在法律面前一律平等呢？
In gist we hope to exert the slightest and most basic degree of pressure on the Government through the adjournment motion today . Irrespective of the passage or otherwise of the motion at least we indeed had more time to discuss issues very closely related to ordinary people yesterday―at least those ordinary people who are watching the television live broadcast now―including the question of what they should do in the face of undesired lawsuits one day if they had no money and whether the legal system of Hong Kong could offer any help to them and fulfil the Basic Law assertion that all people shall be equal before the law
這是這次辯論所帶出的一個很重要的信息。
This is a very important message sent out by this debate
我們當然寄望在這個辯論中能夠製造適當的壓力，無論通過與否也不重要，讓政府知悉，如果下次只根據丙類消費物價指數來調整，不再交出好的功課時，那樣便不妥當，可能要在不同場合進行改善。
Honourable Members it also carries the meaning of resumption . Irrespective of the passage or otherwise of the motion we certainly hope to exert an appropriate degree of pressure in this debate so as to enable the Government to realize that it will be undesirable if it fails to hand in a better assignment again next time when introducing adjustment solely based on CPIC and it may have to undertake improvements on other occasions
當中有多少人是懷着戰戰兢兢的心情，連早一天問意見也不可以。
How many of them are nervous as they cannot seek their legal advice the day before?
試想想，安排上庭、安排民政事務處的法律服務諮詢不知要輪候多久。
Members can think about how long they have to wait during the process from DOs arrangement for legal consultation services to their court appearance
主席，我詳述過各區情況都很嚴峻，差不多各區民政事務處也要等6星期，當事人才可以見律師和聽取法律意見。
President as I have said in detail just now the situation in various districts is very acute . A person in a lawsuit has to wait six weeks for the relevant services offered by DOs in almost all districts before he can meet with a lawyer and seek his legal advice
所以，這正正是我提出中止待續議案的其中一個原因。
So this is precisely one reason why I have to move the adjournment motion
要盡快，因為1992年到現在，已20多年了。
It is because some 20 years have passed since 1992
20年來我們因為當值律師服務資源不足，法援改革未完善，造成多少枉冤個案或冤獄呢？
How many cases of unjust conviction or imprisonment have resulted during these 20 years due to inadequate resources for duty lawyer services and incomprehensive legal aid reform?
但是，老實說，他們可能因此而被提高罰款，可能入獄數星期，這也是對他們一生人非常大的傷害。
This will greatly damage their entire lives
如果我們這次可以成其美事，至少在這裏，我們有這意識，認為兩年檢討一次，只是用消費物價指數來進行是不對的，是時候要想一想，如何令香港市民在不同情況下，得到平等的法律保障。
If we can achieve our objectives this time around and at least become aware in this Chamber that it is inappropriate to solely adopt CPI as the basis for the biennial review we will realize that it is time to think about how we can enable Hong Kong people to receive equal legal protection under various circumstances
在我發言中，曾經引用過2015年美林邨謀殺案。
In my previous speech I discussed the murder case in Mei Lam Estate in 2015
各位，這宗案件很鮮明，因為警方誤告一名智障男子誤殺，由於他不懂得表達自己，又沒有一個及時的法律支援服務，可幸及後真相大白。
Honourable Members this case was crystal clear as the police wrongfully laid a charge of manslaughter against a man with intellectual disabilities who was unable to express himself and failed to receive timely legal support
事件中，多名警員遭處分。
Fortunately the facts became clear later on and many police officers involved in this incident were sanctioned to disciplinary actions
這件事反映了精神病患者和沒有行為能力者，未能夠表達自己。
This incident reflects that persons with mental disabilities and mentally incapacitated persons are unable to express themselves
我們更關注如何能令有心的律師當值律師走進各個法庭，可以更到位，幫助更多有需要的市民。
We are even more concerned about how to enable more good - hearted lawyers―duty lawyers―to offer more focused help to a greater number of needy people in various courtrooms . Let us put ourselves in the shoes of grass - roots people
我們將心比己，假設我們在座不是議員，而是草根階層，萬一遇到官非，收到告票，真的不知如何是好。
Suppose we are from the grass roots rather than Legislative Council Members we honestly will not know what to do if we get involved in a lawsuit or receive a summons
所以，這次我是藉這個機會，亦透過這項中止待續議案，希望給予政府壓力，我是知其不可為而為之。
Therefore I wish to exert pressure on the Government through this opportunity this time around and also this adjournment motion . I am aware of its impossible passage but I still insisted on moving this motion . I know many Members will raise objection
我知道不少同事會反對，但我不介意，亦多謝各位發言的同事，起碼大家能達至一個共同想法，儘管你這做法很魯莽，不過，我都認同香港的當值律師服務，法援情況需要得到改善這一點。
But I do not mind . I am also thankful to those Members who have spoken because we have at least reached a common thought . Even though some Members may think that I am reckless they still agree that the duty lawyer and legal aid services in Hong Kong are in need of improvement
主席，這樣已經很好了，所以，我寄望這項中止待續議案之後，不是中止這麼簡單，而是繼續待續。
President this is already good enough . So I hope that this adjournment motion will not simply bring an end to this matter and this matter will be resumed some time later
在我就這項中止待續議案提出待決議題之前，我想提醒議員，根據《議事規則》第402及3條，該議案如獲得通過，辯論即告中止待續；如議案被否決，本會便須繼續就根據《刑事訴訟程序條例》動議的擬議決議案進行辯論。
Before I put the question on this adjournment motion I wish to remind Members that in accordance with Rule 402 and 3 of the Rules of Procedure if the motion is agreed to the debate shall stand adjourned; if the motion is negatived this Council shall continue with the debate on the proposed resolution under the Criminal Procedure Ordinance
其實，最有效的反"拉布"工具就是時間。
In fact time is the most effective tool to counter filibustering
然而，建制派連用時間來處理議會正常的議事程序也不願意，只覺得民主派議員千方百計、誓死捍衞議會的尊嚴就是阻礙他們謀生，這怎可以說得過去？
Nevertheless the pro - establishment Members are not even willing to spend time in dealing with a normal agenda item and they think that various strenuous attempts made by the democrats to safeguard the dignity of the Legislative Council will hinder them from making a living . How can such an argument hold water?
再看看主席如何處理上一輪的討論，他一直說民主派的議員發言重複、冗贅，其實這已經反映主席的權力非常大。
This is well evident from how the President dealt with the previous session of discussion . He repeatedly said that the speeches of the democrats were repetitive and tedious . These examples show that the President has great power
主席有這麼大的權力，再加上建制派人多勢眾的協助，他們也不滿足，還要進一步修訂《議事規則》。
Despite the fact that the President has such great powers and pro - establishment Members form the majority of the Legislative Council they are still not satisfied and they want to amend RoP
今天的議會制度，是依照在每4年一度的立法會選舉中，由大多數香港市民投票產生的建制派及民主派議員的比例來作出決定。
Under the current system of the Legislative Council decisions will be made according to the proportion of pro - establishment Members to pro - democracy Members returned by the majority of Hong Kong people in the Legislative Council Election held every four years
坦白說，如果建制派在回歸後的20年，能在地區直選中勝過民主派，便早已修訂了《議事規則》，還需待民主派有6位議員被取消資格之後才提出嗎？
Frankly speaking if the pro - establishment camp had won the pro - democracy camp in direct elections in the geographical constituencies in the past 20 years after the reunification they would have amended RoP long ago and would not have waited after six pro - democracy Members had been disqualified
所以，這正正反映了他們今天修訂《議事規則》的不義之處。
This clearly shows how unrighteous they are in amending RoP today
立法會是一個議事的地方，我們當然不希望立法會以非常"有效率"的方式處理議會事務。
The Legislative Council is a place to discuss Council business . We certainly do not hope that the Legislative Council will very efficiently handle Council business
好像1997年之後的臨時立法會，當時很方便、很快捷，只須1天時間就可以隨意三讀通過任何法案。
In 1997 the Provisional Legislative Council dealt with its business very conveniently and speedily; it only took one day to go through three readings of any bill and pass it
即使連工 聯會最重視的集體談判權，都在極短的時間內，未經過嚴肅討論就被臨時立法會取消。
Even the right of collective bargaining to which much importance was attached by the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions was abolished by the Provisional Legislative Council swiftly without serious deliberation
山水有相逢，建制派今天閹割立法會，他日是整個行政機關閹割包括建制派在內的立法會。
Fate works in surprising ways . The pro - establishment camp castrates the Legislative Council today; but the entire Legislative Council the pro - establishment camp included may be castrated in future by the executive authorities
事實上，如果用這個角度來看，建制派今天在法案委員會審議的某些內容其實都是特區政府、行政機關壓下來的東西，可能他們也想反抗。
Considering the matter from this perspective some issues deliberated by the pro - establishment camp in the bills committees might be subject to pressures from the SAR Government or the executive authorities . Pro - establishment Members might actually like to raise objection
我記得何俊賢議員在有關漁民權益上也曾踴躍發言。
I remember that Mr Steven HO had enthusiastically spoken about protecting the rights of fishermen in some discussions
是否當行政機關壓下來時，他便說沒辦法，只能夠做"鵪鶉"，平時說話聲大大，都只是"吹水不抹嘴"，是否這樣呢？
However when he was pressurized by the executive authorities he said he could do nothing about it and quailed . He speaks loudly but he is just a babbler with a capital B . Is that a fair description?
不知道，他也不知道何時會被建制派離棄。
Mr HO does not know when he will be deserted by other pro - establishment Members
所以，我時常覺得，如果議會的制度改變了，便是一個永續的改變。
Thus I always think that if changes are made to the system of the Legislative Council the changes will be long - lasting
這個永續的改變，對每位同事都必然有深遠的影響。
These long - lasting changes will certainly have a far - reaching implication for each Member which is the Legislative Council will be deprived of the room to discuss and negotiate with the Government
我們是否不用提問、不用審議，便隨便通過數以億元、十億元或百億元計的項目？
Should Members arbitrarily approve projects costing hundreds of millions billions or tens of billions of dollars without asking any question or holding any deliberation?
如果是這樣，亦表明了建制派其實甘於讓立法會成為以往的臨時立法會或將立法會"人大化"。
If so pro - establishment Members are actually ready to assimilate the Legislative Council to the Provisional Legislative Council or the Standing Committee of the National Peoples Congress NPCSC
如果香港在"一國兩制"下產生立法會"人大化"的結果，議員是否對得起"一國兩制"？
If the Legislative Council of Hong Kong is assimilated to NPCSC under one country two systems have Members upheld the principle of one country two systems?
是否對得起香港社會一直很珍惜的核心價值？
Have Members safeguarded the core values which Hong Kong society has all along treasured?
事實上，在過去一屆的立法會，有些同事"拉布"可能是相對地過了火，他們亦可能已面對選民的一些懲罰。
In fact in the last term of the Legislative Council some Members might have crossed the line when they filibustered and they might have somehow been punished by their voters . The situation seemed to turn better in the current term of the Legislative Council
在今屆立法會，事情開始有好轉，而林鄭月娥在開局時也說，希望能夠改善行政立法關係。
Carrie LAM said at the beginning of this legislative session that she hoped the relationship between the executive and the legislature would improve
但 是，建制派是否真的想幫助政府，還是想為政府添煩添亂，還是他們心中實質上只希望為《基本法》第二十三條立法掃除障礙，所以不惜一切要修訂《議事規則》，確保《基本法》第二十三條立法的議案提交議會時，所有反對工具都再不存在。
However are pro - establishment Members really trying to help the Government or do they want to cause more troubles instead? . Or are they actually trying to remove all obstacles to enacting legislation to implement Article 23 of the Basic Law hence making all - out effort to amend RoP so as to eliminate all opposing tools?
然後，由主席一聲令下，甚至也不用討論，就予以通過。
By then under the order made by the President such a motion would be passed even without any deliberation
如果這就是他們的目的，我覺得他們不單是與民為敵，亦是與林鄭月娥政府為敵。
If that is their objective they are making enemies not only with the public but also with Carrie LAMs Government
當然，我今天看到林鄭月娥明顯地是完全協助建制派，如果由政府正常地提交法案，恐怕他們修訂《議事規則》的議案便不能夠在3月11日補選前獲得通過。
It is certainly obvious to me that Carrie LAM is giving pro - establishment Members a helping hand . If the Government introduces bills to the Legislative Council in a normal way the motion on amending RoP might not be passed before the by - election on 11 March
我抱有的良好願望或我對林鄭月娥善良的一點想象，其實都因為她今次為建制派修訂《議事規則》而收回所有政府法案而破產。
My good expectations of Carrie LAM or my kind impressions of her have completely vanished as she withdrew all Government bills to help pro - establishment Members amend RoP
就是要衡量何時才能夠看到立法會《議事規則》的改變。
The Government has to assess when amendments to RoP of the Legislative Council can be made
所以，我覺得今天在電視機前的市民大眾一定要明白，立法會議事論事的精神和傳統，是必須捍衞的。
Thus I think people watching the television broadcast today must understand that we must uphold the spirit and tradition of deliberation of the Legislative Council
當有議員在議會透過一些程序延長議事過程時，其實最容易處理這情況的手段，就是通過由建制派控制的議會延長議事時間，而不是透過修訂《議事規則》來削減議員發言的空間和權利。
When Members prolong the process of deliberation by means of invoking certain procedures the easiest solution is that the Legislative Council controlled by the pro - establishment camp prolongs the meeting time instead of limiting the chances and rights of Members to speak
主席，我剛才談到對付"拉布"的方法，其實不需要修訂《議事規則》。
President I was talking about how to deal with filibustering . In fact there is no need to amend RoP
如果他介意議員阻延議程，我也沒法子，因為"拉布"一定會阻延議程，但"拉布"是不會成功的，法案最終仍然會獲得通過，只要議員乖乖坐在席上，通過法案。
If he is unhappy about Members delaying the proceedings I can do nothing about it because filibustering will definitely delay the proceedings . However filibustering will not succeed because the bill will eventually be passed provided that Members will remain seated obediently in the Chamber to pass it
事實上，有40多名建制派議員，在現行的政治制度下，透過保皇、透過支持政府，其實他們真的獲得不少好處和利益。
In fact 40 - plus pro - establishment Members have obtained considerable advantages and benefits under the current political system by acting as royalists and supporting the Government
主席，我感謝議員對決議案的支持及意見。
President I am very grateful to Members for their supporting the resolution and expressing their views on it
法援服務是香港法律制度的重要一環。
Legal aid service is an integral part of Hong Kongs legal system
我想再一次重申，法援政策的目標是確保所有符合《法律援助條例》規定及具備合理理據在香港法院提出訴訟或抗辯的人，不會因缺乏經濟能力而無法尋求公義。
I wish to reiterate that the policy objective of legal aid is to ensure that any person who can meet the requirements under the Legal Aid Ordinance and has reasonable grounds for taking or defending a legal action is not deprived from doing so because of lack of means
任何人士如欲獲得法援，必須同時通過該條例規定的經濟審查及案情審查。
Any person who seeks to apply for legal aid should satisfy the means and merits tests stipulated under the Ordinance
正如我在首次發言中提到，我這次提出的決議案，目的是根據兩年一度的檢討結果，按丙類消費物價指數的變動，相應上調刑事法援費用。
As I mentioned in the opening remarks the resolution proposed by me today is to make corresponding upward adjustments to the rates for criminal legal aid fees as per the biennial review results which reflected the accumulated change in the Consumer Price Index C
至於有議員提出不同的建議，我相信會留為以後檢討的參考。
As to different views raised by Members I believe they will be used as reference for the next review
就一些議員提出提高刑事法援費用，我現在作簡單的回應。
Regarding some Members who have called for the increase of criminal legal aid fees I am now giving a brief response
事實上，我們於2014年已經就刑事法援費用進行檢討，並於2016年6月獲得大家通過。
In fact we have conducted a review on criminal legal aid fees in 2014 and the review was endorsed by the Legislative Council in June 2016
剛剛在上一年，亦將大律師費用上調50%，發出指示的律師費用上調25%，以及在區域法院以訟辯人兼發出指示的律師身分行事的律師費用上調40%。
Last year we have made a 50 % increase to the criminal legal aid fees for counsel a 25 % increase for instructing solicitors and a 40 % increase for solicitors acting as both advocate and instructing solicitor in the District Court
此外，我們亦為享有較高級法院出庭發言權的訟辯律師，增設一個新的刑事法援費用類別，以處理高等法院的案件。
Furthermore we have introduced a new category of criminal legal aid fees for High Court cases for solicitor advocates with higher rights of audience
至於有議員擔心法援律師的資歷問題，其實在"法援律師名冊"上一直有大量具刑事案件經驗的私人執業律師或大律師，願意接受委聘處理刑事法援案件。
Some Members are concerned about the qualifications of legal aid lawyers . In fact many private lawyers or counsel who are on the Legal Aid Panel have substantive experience in criminal cases . They are willing to handle criminal legal aid cases
過去5年，在獲委派刑事法援個案的律師和大律師當中，分別有超過90%和89%在取得專業資格後，具備10年或以上經驗，他們並非如一些議員所說是新手或沒有經驗。
Over the past 5 years of all lawyers and counsel assigned to handle criminal legal aid cases over 90 % and 89 % have at least 10 years post - qualification experience . Therefore they are not novices or inexperienced lawyers
我希望這兩點釋除了大家的疑慮。
I hope the above explanations could address the concerns of some Members
事實上，今日提出升幅，是於去年11月已經提升了25%至50%的基礎之上，再加的4%。
In fact todays proposed increase is an additional 4 % on top of last years 50 % increase
這是否一個合理的升幅，我相信議員之間自有判斷。
As to whether it is a reasonable increase I believe Members may make their own judgment
主席，我再次感謝議員的支持，若有議員反對，我也希望他們能回心轉意支持這次的費用提升，原因是決議案對服務和對律師都能夠提供一定支援。
President I wish to thank once again for Members support . If some Members are still opposed to the proposal I hope that they will change their minds and support the proposed increase this time around because the resolution can provide a certain degree of support to the service as well as lawyers
多謝主席。
President thank you
我今天支持黃國健議員提出議案，就內務委員會第3/17-18號報告內的13項附屬法例中止待續。
Today I support the motion moved by Mr WONG Kwok - kin to adjourn the 13 items of subsidiary legislation as set out in Report No . 317 - 18 of the House Committee
主席，我們今天由10時40分開始細聽了共21位反對派同事的發言，但全部言之無物，而且大部分時間違反《議事規則》第411條，主席更多次提醒他們不要離題萬丈......
President since 10col40 am today we have been listening attentively to the speeches of 21 opposition Members which were all devoid of substance . They have contravened RoP 411 most of the time and the President has reminded them time and again not to deviate too far from the subject
他們今天處於劣勢，便要"認低威"；如果我們今天放虎歸山，明日就會後患無窮。
They need to admit defeat for being in a disadvantageous position today . If we release the tiger into the wild today there will be endless troubles in the future
所以，我完全支持在這一刻果斷地堅持立場，並支持黃國健議員的議案，謹此陳辭。
For this reason I fully agree that we should at this moment firmly uphold our position and support Mr WONG Kwok - kins motion . I so submit
郭榮鏗議員剛才提到，他發言支持黃國健議員的中止待續議案，我覺得他的說法很有道理。
Mr Dennis KWOK just now said that he spoke in support of Mr WONG Kwok - kins adjournment motion . I find his words make sense
當然，要他支持中止待續議案，建制派必須符合一個條件，便是他們要撤回先前提出的《議事規則》的修正案。
Of course in order to obtain his support for the adjournment motion the pro - establishment camp must first meet the requirement of withdrawing the amendments previously proposed to RoP
我覺得這事很重要，所以需要多位議員多說幾次，我也希望建制派議員聽到，原來要議會回復正常是有方法的。
I think this is very important and Members should highlight this point time and again . Furthermore I hope that pro - establishment Members would hear that there are indeed ways for this Council to resume normal operation
代理主席，市民可能不知道現時立法會發生甚麼事。建制派不斷在外面宣傳說我們不做事，只是浪費議會時間。
Deputy President members of the public may not know what is going on in the Legislative Council given that the pro - establishment camp has been telling people that we do nothing except wasting the Councils time
代理主席，試問哪個國家、城市或地方會有人辛辛苦苦透過選舉加入議會，然後主動削減自己的權力，而不是爭取增加自己的權力，為市民監察政府？
Deputy President is there any country city or place in this world where people make great efforts to campaign for getting elected to the Council and then take the initiative to reduce instead of enhance their power to monitor the Government on behalf of members of the public?
他們要牢牢抓緊他們的絕對權力，上頭要他們做的，他們一定要做。
They continue to tighten the control over their absolute power and complete whatever task assigned by their boss
所以，民主派議員不服氣，也有很多香港人叫我們撐住，因為他們也不服氣。
This is why pro - democracy Members feel disgruntled and many Hong Kong people ask us to hang on as they also feel disgruntled
但是，現時議會要尊重的似乎只有長官或黨的意志。
And yet it seems that at present this Council only respects the will of the leaders or the Party
今天很多議員都指出，接下來的日子不會好過，既然如此又何必當初？
As many Members have pointed out today the situation would not get any better in the days to come . Would they have done so seeing the consequences today?
很多議員提到"拉布"，其實，真正的"拉布"是怎樣一回事？
Many Members have mentioned filibuster but what actually is filibuster?
我們從報道得悉，他對主席說："對時間的運用，在民主制度下是反對派唯一的武器"。
We learned from the press that he told the President The use of time is the oppositions only weapon in a democracy
我希望主席不是聽了便算。
I hope the President will not forget these words
他有否思考一下，為何會出現這種情況？
Has he ever pondered why Members filibuster?
是否主席和建制派一起"剪布"，停止所謂"拉布"行為，便可解決所有問題？
Can the President solve all the problems by joining hands with the pro - establishment camp to cut off the so - called filibuster?
我們的制度民主嗎？
Do we have institutional democracy?
如果有民主制度，大多數市民選出來的議員便不會變成議會的少數派。
Should we have a democratic system Members elected by majority votes would not have become the minority in this Council
世界上有哪些地方得到大多數選票的議員會變成議會的少數派，還要成為反對派？
Is there anywhere in this world where Members who have won the majority votes ended up as the minority and even the opposition in the legislature?
我真的不明白，主席為何會容許黃國健議員以反"拉布"為由，根據《議事規則》第401條動議中止待續議案。這也刺激民主派議員更積極發言，所以我要感謝他。
I really do not understand why the President would approve Mr WONG Kwok - kin of moving an adjournment motion pursuant to RoP 401 on the ground of anti - filibustering as this would only stimulate more pro - democracy Members to speak so I must thank him for this
我們辛辛苦苦逐一站起來發言，相比建制派同事安坐1小時、小息15分鐘，究竟誰比較辛苦？
While we make efforts to rise and speak one after another colleagues of the pro - establishment camp simply sit back and relax in their seats for an hour or then enjoy a short break of 15 minutes . Who do you think has a more difficult time?
你當然可以笑，但我相信可以從市民投下的選票找出答案。
Of course you may laugh out loud but I am sure we will find the answer from the votes cast by members of the public
真正為捍衞"一國兩制"而努力的人，我相信市民看得出來。
I think people should be able to tell who is genuinely fighting to safeguard one country two systems
我很尊重他們運用《議事規則》的權利，我更尊重黃國健議員的誠實，但主席為何不准我們同樣享有運用《議事規則》的權利，為何要趕盡殺絕，令我們這些代表大多數選民的議員，要與他們一樣成為表決機器？
What is more I have even greater respect for the frankness of Mr WONG Kwok - kin . Why does the President disallow us to enjoy the same right of using RoP and ruthlessly force Members representing the majority of voters like us to become voting machines?
主席，我發現涂謹申議員發言有困難，要不斷找話說，但其實我也聽得很辛苦。
President I find that Mr James TO had difficulty delivering his speech as he had to keep trying to say something in an attempt to make up a speech and that made me feel rather uneasy
所以，主席，我現在根據《議事規則》第401條動議中止辯論。
In light of this President I now move a motion under Rule 401 of the Rules of Procedure that the debate be now adjourned
我看到早前根據《刑事訴訟程序條例》第9A條動議的擬議決議案基本上並沒有任何爭論，社會對此亦無異議，但本會竟也可以前後共花了約14小時進行討論，因此我認為立法會現時的議案辯論的"拉布"行徑已成為常態。
As far as I can see the resolution proposed under section 9A of the Criminal Procedure Ordinance earlier was not controversial and there were no adverse comments in society at large . However to ones surprise this Council spent 14 hours on discussing on the resolution . Therefore I consider that as far as motion debates are concerned filibustering has become the norm in the Legislative Council
主席，立法會《議事規則》所容許的中止辯論已淪為"拉布"的工具，臭名遠播，但我今天想替其平反，希望藉着動議中止辯論來減少"拉布"。
President the adjournment motion permits under the Rules of Procedure has degenerated into an infamous instrument of filibustering . Nonetheless I wish to speak in vindication of it . I also hope that I can reduce the frequent occurrence of filibustering by moving an adjournment debate
我相信很多議員，尤其是反對派議員一定會說："你又如何得知我會'拉布'呢？
I believe many Members especially Members from the opposition camp will ask How do you know that I will filibuster?
如果反對派議員真的不"拉布"，就請他們別就這項辯論中止待續議案發言或減少發言，讓這個程序能盡快完成，令立法會可以進入正常的議事狀態。
If Members from the opposition camp are not filibustering will they please stop speaking on this adjournment motion or they should speak less so as to allow the relevant proceeding to come to a close as soon as possible and this Council to return to normal for the discussion of official business
有意發言的議員請按下"要求發言"按鈕。
Members who wish to speak in the debate on the motion will please press the Request to speak button
保安局局長，你是否想發言？
Secretary for Security do you wish to speak?
只要反對派用力收緊繩子，我們便無法呼吸，所以他們說要待有足夠人手時才把繩子鬆開，我認為只是說笑而已。
When the opposition camp tightens the noose we can hardly breathe . They say that they will loosen the noose when more democratic Members join the Council . I think they are just joking
如果我們不利用這個機會把繩子鬆開，我相信將很難處理"拉布"的問題，而很多人也希望能夠盡快處理這議題。
If we do not seize this opportunity to untie the noose I trust it will be very difficult to deal with the problem of filibuster in the future . Also many people hope that the issue can be dealt with as soon as possible
黃國健議員這次動議中止待續議案，無意中帶出一個十分有趣的問題，很值得在12月6日討論修訂《議事規則》之前，提早一星期討論。
By moving an adjournment motion Mr WONG Kwok - kin has unintentionally brought out an interesting topic which I think should be discussed one week before discussing amendments to RoP on 6 December
所謂"拉布"的問題，這數年間不斷纏繞立法會。
The so - called filibustering has been an issue haunting the Legislative Council for years