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如果他如此大義凜然、如此仰慕民主機制，便應立刻支持廢除功能界別，跟隨外國議會進行全面普選。
If he is so righteous and highly admires the democratic systems he should support the immediate abolition of functional constituencies and the implementation of universal suffrage by adopting the practices of overseas legislatures
各位，歷史會證明一切，修改《議事規則》後，我不相信議會會變得政通人和，反而會變得更多濫權、更加畸形，最後只會激起更大的民憤，讓建制派玩火自焚。
Fellow Members history will prove itself . I do not think there will be good governance and social harmony in the Council after the amendment of RoP . Instead there will be more abuse of power to further distort the Council resulting in greater public resentment
稍後的表決紀錄，會將保皇黨的名字逐一記錄，讓歷史記下哪些人出賣香港。
The pro - establishment camp which plays with fire will get burnt . We will soon have the voting result . The record will list out the names of the royalists one by one so that there will be historical record on the ones who have betrayed Hong Kong
我也希望市民認着這些人，他們將我們現在僅有可做的事......他們日前示範了如何將呈請書一手斷送。
I hope members of the public will remember these Members for they have deprived us of our limited means to a few days ago they demonstrated how they ruined the presentation of petition
要問"西環"嗎？
Do they have to ask the Western District?
主席，我認為點名表決鐘聲的時間不應該縮短，理由很簡單，我見到有些議員已經嚴重失控。
President it is my opinion that the duration of the division bell should not be shortened . The reason is very simple some Members are seriously out of control
是火鳳凰，鳳凰是動物嗎？
Is phoenix an ordinary animal?
還是有人想山雞變鳳凰呢，主席？
Or did someone want to turn from a pheasant into a phoenix President?
靠"擦鞋"上位、靠女人上位，但又欺負女人，這才叫人看不過眼。
Someone attains a high position by bootlicking and relying on womens help yet he has been unkind to women . That is really disgusting
所以，我覺得他失控的程度，已超乎常人的想象，對嗎？
Hence I think his losing control is beyond ordinary peoples imagination right?
你會否說龍是動物嗎？
Will you call a dragon an animal?
鳳凰是動物？
Is phoenix an animal?
甚麼5呎4吋、月入不足1萬元、中學學歷不能當議員，還是才能當議員？
What about his argument about people being five feet four inches tall and earning less than 10,000 a month with only secondary education was not eligible to become a Member or was eligible to become a Member?
如此激動的場面，有5分鐘時間慢慢投票會較好，不是嗎？
In such an emotional situation would it be better to have five minutes to think more carefully before we vote?
所以，希望主席能讓其他議員盡情發言，多謝主席。
Hence I hope that the President will let other Members speak their mind freely . Thank you President
所有人都說政治是一種妥協的藝術，我覺得香港所有政治人物均不懂得藝術，因為從來沒有妥協，任何方面都不會妥協。
There is a common saying that politics is the art of compromise . I think all political figures in Hong Kong do not really know about art and they have never compromised in any respect
這些幫助秘書處工作的修訂建議，我相信大家也沒有異議。
These proposed amendments will assist in the work of the Secretariat and I believe there is no objection
例如，張超雄議員建議內務委員會主席須由地區直選議員擔任。
For example Dr Fernando CHEUNG proposed that the Chairman of the House Committee must be a Member elected from the geographical constituency
香港是文明的社會，這些辯論根本不應該在香港的議會發生。
Hong Kong is a civilized society and such debates should simply not be held in the Council of Hong Kong
當然，胡志偉議員昨天亦提到"拉布"是家家有求的，建制派有需要時也可以運用，尤其自由黨反對"雙辣招"時可運用。
Mr WU Chi - wai also mentioned yesterday that everyone had his own reason for filibustering and pro - establishment Members could also resort to this means when necessary . In particular the Liberal Party could filibuster if it opposed the double curbs measures
主席，面對反對派議員過去兩天顛倒是非，用上非常嚴重的侮辱詞語，包括"走狗"、"動物也不如"、"自閹太監"等，我們全部建制派議員基本上都吞聲忍氣，默不作聲，原因只有一個，就是我們希望修改《議事規則》的建議得以盡快處理，使議會恢復安寧。
President in the past two days opposition Members have confounded right and wrong and used seriously humiliating expressions such as lackeys worse than animals and self - castrated eunuchs . All pro - establishment Members have basically swallowed the humiliation and remained silent for one reason . We hope that the proposed amendments to the Rules of Procedure RoP will be dealt with expeditiously so as to restore peace in this Council
當然，對於不正確的事情，我們必須發聲，但我們在過去一段時間選擇一直忍受，是因為不想中他們的圈套，不想讓他們以挑釁的方式製造無謂的爭拗，拖延時間。
Of course we must speak out against incorrect remarks . Yet we have chosen to tolerate because we do not want to fall into their trap and we do not want to be provoked by them to engage in meaningless arguments and thus prolong the debating time
主席，關於反對派議員提出的修訂建議，為了尊重每位議員，我有逐一留心聆聽，但部分議員的發言卻令我大失所望。
President concerning the proposed amendments of opposition Members I have been listening attentively to all their speeches in order to show respect but the remarks made by some Members have let me down
我舉一些例子。
Let me cite a few examples
公民黨的楊岳橋議員和譚文豪議員建議修訂《議事規則》，包括訂明立法會須維持自主權，以及立法會會議須公開舉行。
Mr Alvin YEUNG and Mr Jeremy TAM of the Civic Party have proposed amendments to RoP such as specifying that the autonomy of the Legislative Council shall be preserved and that the meetings of the Council shall be open to the public
如果我們支持這些"母親是女人"的修訂，我相信很容易會被演繹為我們承認他們對建制派的失實指控，以及顛倒是非的誣衊。
If we render support I believe this will easily be interpreted as we accept the fraudulent accusations of pro - establishment Members and their slanders that confounded right and wrong
這聽起來好像很合理，但細心想想，如果立法會轄下所有委員會和小組委員會同時邀請行政長官出席其會議，行政長官怎能應付？
This may sound reasonable but upon careful consideration if the Chief Executive is invited by all committees and subcommittees of the Legislative Council to attend meetings how can she cope with the workload?
主席，至於郭榮鏗議員和郭家麒議員，我留意到他們經常說我們沒有給予他們足夠的時間發言。
President Mr Dennis KWOK and Dr KWOK Ka - ki have said repeatedly that they have not been given sufficient speaking time
但是，我又留意到他們在發言時比較集中顛倒是非黑白地指責建制派。
Yet when they spoke they often focused on confounding right and wrong and criticizing pro - establishment Members
然而，主席的裁決是不容質疑的，可能他已不太記得這個道理了。
Perhaps he has forgotten that the Presidents ruling is not subject to challenge
所以，我認為應小心處理。
Therefore I think that the matter should be handled carefully
她解釋為何她希望立法會的非公開文件可以得到公開，讓公眾有更多知情權。
She explained why she hoped that the closed documents of the Legislative Council would be made public so as to keep the public better informed
主席，反對派經常說我們修改《議事規則》的建議會削弱立法會監察政府的權力，這是錯的。
President opposition Members often say that our proposals to amend RoP will weaken the Legislative Councils power to monitor the Government but this is wrong
坦白說，有效監察政府不等於要癱瘓政府。
To be honest effectively monitoring the Government does not mean paralysing the Government
監察政府是一回事，拉倒、拖垮、癱瘓政府是另一回事，我相信公眾會分清楚。
Monitoring the Government and dragging down or paralysing the Government are two different things and I believe the public will be clear about that
我們希望防止泛民或反對派不斷濫用《議事規則》，或以"拉布"方式阻礙議會正常運作，亦希望泛民主派不要再諉過於人。
We want to prevent the pan - democrats or opposition Members from continually abusing RoP or obstructing the normal operation of this Council by filibustering and we also hope that the pan - democrats will not put the blame on others again
我們必須把這一切記錄在會議過程正式紀錄中，讓下一代知道今天發生的情況。
All this must be recorded in the Official Record of Proceedings so that the next generation will know what has happened today
我希望讓公眾知道反對派的真面目。
I want to show the public the true faces of opposition Members
"優質民主"一詞，令我想到一些事。
The term quality democracy reminds me of something
當全世界都看到我們偉大的祖國將一個又一個民運人士拘捕；當中國首位諾貝爾和平獎得主劉曉波先生在獄中死亡，而我們偉大的祖國卻在一個南南會議上說中國在守護人權和自由方面領先世界時，我便知道何謂"優質民主"。
When the whole world saw our great Motherland arresting one democracy activist after another; when Chinas first Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Mr LIU Xiaobo died in prison while our great Motherland said at a South - South Conference that China was leading the world in the area of safeguarding human rights and freedom the meaning of quality democracy became clear to me
假民主便是"優質民主"，假人權便是"優質人權"。
Fake democracy is quality democracy . Fake human rights are quality human rights
"優質民主"就留給建制派議員吧，我們要的是正正式式，"一人一票"的民主。
Let us just leave quality democracy to pro - establishment Members . What we want is genuine democracy based on one person one vote
主席，首先，你的發言是違憲的。
President first of all what you said is unconstitutional
當然，如果這些機械人無須思考，接到order便會自動表決，其實無需1分鐘，30秒便足夠。
Of course if those robots only vote automatically as ordered without having to think they actually do not need a minute and only 30 seconds will be enough
內務委員會主席已示範了如何在30秒後終止議員發言。
The Chairman of the House Committee has demonstrated how to stop a Member from speaking after 30 seconds
今天對香港市民來說，絕對是可悲的日子。
To all people in Hong Kong today is definitely the most lamentable
主席，這是艱難的時刻，很多市民正在看着立法會，看着保皇黨或建制派議員如何把議會原有的責任和角色拿走。
President this is a difficult time . Many people are watching the Legislative Council watching how the royalist or pro - establishment Members confiscate the functions and roles of this Council
我亦擔心他們會投錯票，這樣他們便無法向中聯辦或港澳辦交差......
I am also worried that they will cast the wrong vote; if so they cannot be accountable to the Liaison Office of the Central Peoples Government in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and the Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office
然而，我相信今天正在收看直播的香港人都明白這是一個可耻的決定，可耻的建制派或保皇黨議員正透過修改立法會《議事規則》出賣香港。
However I believe Hong Kong people watching the live broadcast of this meeting do understand that this is a contemptible decision . The contemptible pro - establishment camp and royalists betray Hong Kong by amending RoP of the Legislative Council of Hong Kong
我反對李慧琼議員的議案。
I oppose Ms Starry LEEs motion
本會現在開始逐一表決12項擬議決議案及23項修訂議案。
This Council now proceeds to vote on the 12 proposed resolutions and 23 amending motions one by one
請各位議員返回座位，停止叫喊。
Will Members please return to their seats and stop shouting
我最後警告議員，請立即坐下。
I warn Members the last time . Please sit down immediately
梁耀忠議員、涂謹申議員、鄺俊宇議員，我最後警告，如果你們繼續撕毀《議事規則》，我會命令你們離開會議廳。
Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Mr James TO Mr KWONG Chun - yu this is my last warning . If you continue to tear up copies of the Rules of Procedure I will order you to leave the Chamber
請各位議員返回座位，保持肅靜。
Will Members please return to their seats and keep quiet
選舉立法會主席是莊嚴而非常重要的程序，當然，本屆立法會選舉立法會主席時出現過不少問題，但歸根究底，是現任立法會主席不能夠清清楚楚向我們交代，究竟作為候任立法會主席，他能否符合《基本法》對於立法會主席的規定。
The election of the President of the Legislative Council is a solemn and very important procedure . Certainly a number of problems have arisen in the election of the President of the Legislative Council in this session but the root cause of the problems was that the incumbent President of the Legislative Council did not clearly explain to us back then whether he met the requirements for the President of the Legislative Council provided in the Basic Law as a candidate in the election
《基本法》第七十一條訂明立法會主席須符合兩項十分重要的規定，便是必須"在香港通常居住連續滿二十年並在外國無居留權的香港特別行政區永久性居民中的中國公民擔任"，即是必須沒有外國國籍，沒有外國居留權，並且連續在香港居住20年。
Article 71 of the Basic Law provides that the President of the Legislative Council has to meet two very important requirements ie . he must be a permanent resident of the Region with no right of abode in any foreign country and has ordinarily resided in Hong Kong for a continuous period of not less than 20 years . In other words he must not possess any citizenship or right of abode overseas and he must have continuously resided in Hong Kong for 20 years
我三四個月前向議事規則委員會提出討論這事，我只是提出一項修訂建議，並不是他們說的所謂"拉布"等，只不過想做好整件事，但討論了差不多數個月，仍然未能修改附表1。
I requested to discuss this matter in the Committee on Rules of Procedure three or four months ago . I only put forward a proposed amendment and was not intended to filibuster as they claimed . I only wanted to resolve this matter
如果大家想將選舉主席的安排理順，當然可以深化載於附表1的要求，訂明主持選舉的一位最資深的議員要做些甚麼及在甚麼時間內完成主席的選舉。
Nevertheless after discussing the matter for a few months Schedule 1 has still not been amended . If Members wish to streamline the arrangement for electing the President of the Legislative Council they can surely tighten the requirements provided in Schedule 1 and stipulate what the Member present who has the highest precedence must do when conducting the election and the time limit for completing the election
第4條是關於立法會主席的選舉，但如果這個選舉並非在立法會會議上進行，為何《議事規則》又適用於這個程序呢？
RoP 4 concerns the election of the President of the Legislative Council . If the election is not conducted at a meeting of the Legislative Council why is RoP still applicable to this procedure?
究竟《議事規則》的涵蓋範圍包括些甚麼？
What will be the scope of RoP?
這是一個有待解決的問題，我也會爭取在這一輪《議事規則》的修訂之後，作出相應的修訂。
These are questions to be resolved . I will also try to propose a consequential amendment after this round of amendments to RoP
當然，我也希望大家可以有時間討論，正如很多建制派同事所說，大家坐下來，討論商量一下。
Certainly I hope that Members can have time to discuss these issues . As many pro - establishment Members said let us sit down and discuss the matter
選舉主席只不過是4年一遇的問題，相信這個問題也不會拖至天長地久。
The election of the President of the Legislative Council is only held once every four years and I believe this problem will not be postponed endlessly
我其中一項修訂，是增加秘書處的資源，在委員會或小組委員會增設一個副秘書職位，並不是所有委員會也要設立，而是要得到秘書長的同意，才能夠在委員會內增設副秘書一職。
One of my amendments is to increase the resources provided for the Legislative Council Secretariat to create the position of a deputy clerk not in every committee and the position will only be created with the consent of the Secretary General
代理主席，我得悉現時民主派的同事提出的修訂議案可以分開進行表決。
Deputy President I understand that the amending motions proposed by the democrats will be voted separately
我另一項修訂建議，只是將通知期由14整天改為12整天，這並不具爭議性。
Another amending motion of mine is to change the length of notice of a meeting from 14 clear days to 12 clear days which is not controversial
我懇請各位建制派同事或泛民同事考慮一下我提出的兩項修訂建議，而且我作為議事規則委員會副主席，將來會在委員會上提出關於立法會主席選舉的改動，希望大家可以一起做好這件事。
I urge pro - establishment Members and pan - democratic Members to consider my two proposed amendments . As the Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Rules of Procedure I will propose changes to the election of the President of the Legislative Council in the Committee in the hope that we can do a good job together
代理主席，就《議事規則》的修訂，今次是我最後一次發言，因為代理主席已以內務委員會主席身份，提出將點名表決鐘聲由5分鐘縮短至1分鐘。
Deputy President this will be the last time I speak on the amendments to the Rules of Procedure RoP because you have in your capacity as the Chairman of the House Committee proposed to shorten the duration of the division bell from five minutes to one minute
我要說的第二點是，為何不但立法會議員需要反思，在香港安心立命的每位香港市民都應該反思。
The second point I am trying to make provides food for thought for not only Members but also all members of the public who are living their life in peace in Hong Kong
香港已回歸20年，30年後便是2047年，我們是否要將香港變為內地一個普通的二三線城市？
Hong Kong has reunited with the Mainland for 20 years . Thirty years from now it will be 2047 . Are we going to turn Hong Kong into an ordinary second - and third - tier Mainland city by then?
如果以人口來計算，我們可能是一個三線甚至四線的中國城市。
In terms of population Hong Kong may just qualify as a third - tier or even a fourth - tier Chinese city
如果大家想這樣做，不妨繼續這樣做，繼續向"一國"靠攏。
If you want that to happen please just continue to side with one country
當然，我們希望有一個真正的"一國兩制"，我們的議會是一個真正開放、透明及公平的議會。
We surely hope to see the real implementation of one country two systems . The Legislative Council is really an open transparent and fair legislature
代理主席，我在兩天前的辯論說過關於希臘雅典蘇格拉底因為說話太多而被判處死刑的故事，2,400年後亦同樣發生這件事，就是我們的議會被判處死刑。
Deputy President during the debate two days ago I talked about the story of SOCRATES in Athens Greece who had been sentenced to death for talking too much . After 2 400 years the same thing happened again when the Council has been sentenced to death
所以，我們需要一些時間去反思。
Therefore we need some time to reflect on what has happened
第三點，我們有無時間發言是基本的人權問題。
Thirdly whether we are given time to speak is a matter of basic human right
我說的人權並不是中央政府所說的生存權，我們可以自由發表意見，也是一種人權。
What I mean by human right is different from the term right to survival used by the Central Government . Our right to express our views freely is also a human right
我們在議會最主要的職能是發言，如果大家都覺得香港的人權指的是生存權，包括"搵食"、呼吸、如廁等，我們便真的與動物沒有分別。
Our most important function in the Council is to make speeches . If you think that human rights in Hong Kong refer to the right to survival including food hunting breathing and toileting then there will really be no difference between us and animals
所以，我們在這裏討論人權時，需要時間去反思及表達自己的意見。
Hence when we are discussing human rights here we need more time to reflect and express our views
最後一點我不會太冗長郭榮鏗議員剛剛問及議會究竟應重視效率還是其他東西。
Regarding my last point I am not going to make it too long . Mr Dennis KWOK has just asked the question about whether the Legislative Council should emphasize efficiency or other things
正如我剛才所說，我們可以自由表達意見，已經是基本人權。
As I said just now the right to express ourselves freely is already a basic human right
我希望經過議事規則委員會的討論和諮詢，大家可以達成共識，將一些我們根本沒有時間共同討論的事宜再改動，令大家比較舒服一點。
I hope that we can reach a consensus through discussion and consultation at the Committee on Rules of Procedure whereby further changes can be made to items which we do not have time for a discussion . This arrangement can facilitate our work
我不可以說時間在這個議會內不重要，但這不是一個最重要的因素，我們審議法案的質素才是最重要的考量因素。
I do not mean that time is not important in the Council but it is not the determining factor . The quality of our deliberation of bills should be the most important consideration
主席，你是始作俑者，你的國籍問題把議會弄得亂七八糟，令我們無所適從。
President you are the main culprit . Your nationality issue has made a mess in the Council leaving Members confused about what rules to follow
主席，就今次有關修改《議事規則》的建議，其實反對派最激烈反對的其中一點，是有關調整全體委員會會議法 定人數的建議。
President among the current proposals to amend the Rules of Procedure RoP the proposal most strongly opposed by the opposition camp is related to the adjustment of the quorum of a committee of the whole Council
反對派一直堅持有關建議違反《基本法》第七十五條的規定，主要的理由是立法會早前曾經就此問題向外聘大律師索取法律意見，而有關意見皆認為修改全委會會議法定人數，可能不符合《基本法》第七十五條的規定。
The opposition camp has all along insisted that the proposal contravenes Article 75 of the Basic Law . Their main reason is that according to the legal opinions from outside counsel obtained by the Legislative Council earlier the amendment of the quorum of a committee of the whole Council may not be in compliance with Article 75 of the Basic Law
所以，反對派聲稱重視《基本法》，高舉《基本法》，並不斷向立法會主席施壓，要求主席不准將有關議案提交立法會會議處理，否則通過後可能會違憲，並帶來憲制危機。
For this reason the opposition camp claims that it attaches importance to the Basic Law holds high the Basic Law and continues to exert pressure on the President of the Legislative Council not to approve the scrutiny of the relevant motion at Council meetings otherwise the passage of the motion will probably be unconstitutional bringing forth a constitutional crisis
《基本法》第七十五條訂明：香港特別行政區立法會舉行會議的法定人數為不少於全體議員的二分之一。
Article 75 of the Basic Law provides that the quorum for the meeting of the Legislative Council of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall be not less than one half of all its members
關鍵在於該條文中"立法會舉行會議"只是指立法會會議，還是包括全委會會議。
A key point is whether the meeting of the Legislative Council in this article only refers to the Legislative Council meetings or does it also cover meetings of a committee of the whole Council
如果是前者，我們的會議法定人數修改建議便合法合憲。
If the former stands our proposal to change the quorum will be legal and constitutional
但如果是後者，我們的建議將不符合《基本法》。
If the latter stands our proposal will not be in compliance with the Basic Law
法定人數的問題，除了上述《基本法》第七十五條所規定立法會會議的法定人數外，其他委員會會議法定人數皆由立法會自行決定，並列明於《議事規則》。
Regarding the quorum issue apart from the quorum for the meeting of the Legislative Council as stipulated under the aforementioned Article 75 of the Basic Law the quorum of the committees of the Legislative Council are all determined by itself and stipulated in RoP
例如，全委會的會議法定人數是包括主席在內的全體議員的二分之一；專責委員會是委員人數的三分之一；內務委員會是包括主席在內的20名委員，而法案委員會則是包括主席在內的3名委員。
For example the quorum of a committee of the whole Council shall be not less than one half of all its Members including the Chairman; the quorum of a select committee shall be one third of the members excluding the chairman; the quorum of the House Committee shall be 20 members including the chairman and the quorum of a Bills Committee shall be 3 members including the chairman
全委會的職能是討論法案的細節，並有權對法案作出修正，而全委會的職能和處理法案的程序則列明於《議事規則》。
One function of a committee of the whole Council is to discuss the details of a bill and it shall have power to make amendments therein . The functions of a committee of the whole Council and the procedure for handling a bill are stipulated in RoP
全委會在香港立法會的立法過程中有悠久的歷史，始於1858年立法局的《會議常規》。
Having a long history in the legislative process of the Legislative Council a committee of the whole Council originated from the 1858 Standing Orders of the Legislative Council
有關《會議常規》於1968年曾作出重大的修改，而當中的K部規範法案的處理程序及全委會的程序。
Significant changes were made to the Standing Orders in 1968 and Part K thereof standardized the procedure on bills and the procedure of a committee of the whole Council
回歸後的立法會收納了這些程序，成為現時立法會《議事規則》的K部。
The post - 1997 Legislative Council accepted such procedures which have become Part K of RoP of the Legislative Council nowadays
其實，儘管主席和成員的身份重疊，立法會會議和全委會一直以來也是清楚分開的實體。
In fact the meeting of the Legislative Council and a committee of the whole Council have all along been distinctive separate entities even though the President and Honourable Members of the former and the Chairman and members of the latter overlap
首先，立法會主席在全委會時的身份變成全委會主席，而議員稱呼不再有"Honourable"，而是稱為委員。
First the President of the Legislative Council becomes the Chairman of a committee of the whole Council at the committee stage and Members are not addressed as Honourable in a committee of the whole Council
這個身份的轉變突顯兩個實體的不同。
Such change of identity highlights the difference between the two entities
由此可見，立法會會議和全委會不是必然地連結在一起。
We can thus see that the meeting of the Legislative Council and a committee of the whole Council are not necessarily linked up with each other
再者，現時全委會的會議法定人數列明於《議事規則》第17條，而最早的全委會會議法定人數出現於1968年立法局的《會議常規》。
Furthermore the quorum of a committee of the whole Council is now stipulated in RoP 17 and the quorum of a committee of the whole Council first appeared in the 1968 Standing Orders of the Legislative Council
當時，全委會的會議法定人數為不包括主席在內的10位委員，而當時的立法局會議法定人數為包括主席在內的5位議員。
The then quorum of a committee of the whole Council was 10 members excluding the Chairman and the then quorum of the meeting of the Legislative Council was 5 Members including the President
其後，1969年的《皇室訓令》將立法局的會議法定人數改為包括主席在內的10位議員，但全委會的會議法定人數仍維持於不包括主席在內的10位委員。
Later the Royal Instructions in 1969 changed the quorum of the meeting of the Legislative Council to 10 Members including the President but the quorum of a committee of the whole Council remained at 10 members excluding the Chairman
主席，各位議員同事可能越聽越混亂，有很多數字。
President Members may get confused as there are so many figures involved
我剛才說出歷史數據，是想告訴大家，在這段時間這兩個實體的會議法定人數是不一樣的。
By quoting such historical data I would like to tell Members that the quorum of the two entities in such periods were different
1971年，全委會的會議法定人數改為包括主席在內的10位委員，直至這刻兩個實體的會議法定人數才變相同。
In 1971 the quorum of a committee of the whole Council was changed to 10 members including the Chairman . Only until then did the quorum of the two entities become the same
簡而言之，《皇室訓令》能更改立法局會議的法定人數，全委會的會議法定人數則由當時立法局的《會議常規》訂定，與《皇室訓令》沒有關係。
Simply put the Royal Instructions could change the quorum of the meeting of the Legislative Council but the quorum of a committee of the whole Council was stipulated in the then Standing Orders of the Legislative Council and not related to the Royal Instructions
因此，《基本法》第七十五條有關立法會會議的會議法定人數應該只適用於立法會會議，而並不適用於立法會內包括全委會在內的其他委員會會議。
For this reason the requirement on the quorum of the meeting of the Legislative Council under Article 75 of the Basic Law should only be applicable to Legislative Council meetings rather than be applicable to meetings of other committees of the Legislative Council including a committee of the whole Council
當然，我們清楚知道立法會早前就會議法定人數的問題，索取了兩份法律意見書，第一份意見書是2014年由英國御用大律師Lord LESTER提供，而第二份意見書是於2017年由本港資深大律師何沛謙及張天任大律師提供。
Certainly we clearly know that the Legislative Council obtained two legal submissions concerning the quorum issue of which one was provided by Lord LESTER QC of the United Kingdom in 2014 and the other was provided by Ambrose HO SC and Jonathan CHANG of Hong Kong in 2017
主席，在第一份由英國御用大律師Lord LESTER提供的法律意見書中，他就很多不同方面的問題給予意見，包括言論自由、國會特權、限制發言時間、言論內容、議會秩序及響鐘點算法定人數等不同事宜。
President in the first legal submission provided by Lord LESTER QC of the United Kingdom he offered his views on issues in various fields including freedom of speech parliamentary privilege restricting speaking time content of speech parliamentary procedure and the ringing of the summoning bell
就《基本法》第七十五條有關法定人數的問題，Lord LESTER所作的分析佔整份意見書不多篇幅。
As for the quorum issue referred to in Article 75 of the Basic Law Lord LESTER did not devote many paragraphs of the entire submission to his analysis