Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
我們政府會因應需要，為這些有需要的人打開方便之門，但那道門很狹窄，合用的個案也很狹窄，狹窄得卑微。
The Government will open a door of convenience in view of the needs of these people yet the door is small and the cases applicable are very limited . It is just so small and so humble
如果他們認為擴闊"親屬"的定義是一項死罪，違反社會價值，破壞家庭價值，他們應把《致命意外條例》鞭屍。
If they consider the expansion of the definition of relative warrants a death sentence violates social values and undermines family values they should condemn the Fatal Accidents Ordinance severely in the public
幸好當天通過該項條例時，何君堯議員、周浩鼎議員和梁美芬議員尚未當立法會議員，否則他們也會表決反對該條例。
Luckily when the legislation was passed back then Dr Junius HO Mr Holden CHOW and Dr Priscilla LEUNG had not yet been elected Members of the Legislative Council . Otherwise they would have voted against it
其實，在政府提供的不同的方便之門中，同居兩年這項規定是比較少有的。
In fact among the doors of convenience offered by the Government this requirement of living with the deceased for at least two years is not common
《家庭及同居關係暴力條例》訂明同居關係是指，"作為情侶在親密關係下共同生活的兩名人士之間的關係"。
Under the Domestic and Cohabitation Relationships Violence Ordinance a cohabitation relationship is defined as a relationship between 2 persons who live together as a couple in an intimate relationship
《電子健康紀錄互通系統條例》中訂有"代決人"，當天討論"代決人"時，局長也在席。
Under the Electronic Health Record Sharing System Ordinance there is a provision on substitute decision maker . The Secretary was present at the discussion about substitute decision maker on that day
請問《家庭及同居關係暴力條例》通過了多久？
May I ask for how long has the Domestic and Cohabitation Relationships Violence Ordinance been enacted?
《致命意外條例》通過了多久？
For how long has the Fatal Accidents Ordinance been enacted?
《電子健康紀錄互通系統條例》又通過了多久？
And for how long has the Electronic Health Record Sharing System Ordinance been passed?
各人有不同的價值觀，亦沒有對與錯。
People may have different values and it is not a matter of right or wrong
我想問問大家，所謂的家庭價值是甚麼？
I would like to ask Honourable Members this question . What do you think the so - called family values are?
根據英國上訴法院的法官所說，應該是一段穩定、長久、負責任的關係，這才是家庭價值中最重要的一環。
According to the Judge of the Court of Appeal of the United Kingdom it should be a stable long - lasting and committed relationship for this is the most essential link in family values
因此，當我看到自由黨早早便拉起橫額，展示"一男一女，一夫一妻，捍衞健康家庭價值"時，我感到很憤怒。
Hence when I saw the Liberal Party hang up the banner earlier declaring One man one woman one husband one wife defending healthy family values I flew into rage
自由黨的黨員不要被我捉到有人"包二奶"或搞婚外情，我一定會告訴《蘋果日報》。
Do not let me find any member of the Liberal Party keeping a mistress or having extra - marital affairs . Otherwise I will definitely report to the Apple Daily
何謂健康家庭價值？
What are healthy family values?
或許我們的價值觀不同，我有我的價值觀，你有你的，我不明白我結婚如何影響或改變你的價值觀，而下一代的價值觀是在整個社會發展的過程中建構的。
I have my own values and you have yours . I do not understand how my marriage will affect or change your values . Besides the values of the next generation are built up in the context of development of society as a whole
主席，多謝主席提醒，我知道就此再辯論下去，很容易就會正中建制派議員"拉布"的下懷，他們想令我們沒有時間討論有關"六四"和彈劾的議案，我是知道的，亦多謝提醒，所以今次會是我就這項修正案最後一次發言。
Chairman thank you for the reminder . I know a continuous debate on this is exactly what the pro - establishment Members want . They want to filibuster so that we will have no time to discuss the motion on the 4 June incident and the censure motion
主席可能也記得，我昨天提出了一項口頭質詢，詢問《教育條例》中有關"教育課程"的定義，而姚松炎議員也提出了跟進質詢，問及立法會的辯論算不算一種教育，立法會算不算教育機構，當時局長的答覆是否定的。
Hence this is the last time I speak on this amendment . The Chairman may also remember that I raised an oral question yesterday asking the meaning of educational course under the Education Ordinance . Dr YIU Chung - yim also raised a supplementary question asking whether the debates in the Legislative Council can be considered as a kind of education and whether the Legislative Council can be considered as an educational institution
中國人的想象唯在這一層能夠如此躍進。
This is the sole respect in which the imagination of Chinese people takes such a great leap
這種就是我們經常看到的恐懼文化。
This is the culture of fear that we often see
好的，沒錯，我們的主題是《私營骨灰安置所條例草案》，討論"相關人士"的定義和骨灰申索的優先權過程中提出的理據，便是恐懼文化的散播。
Alright . It is true that the subject under debate is the Private Columbaria Bill the Bill . The argument presented in the discussion of the definition of related person and the order of priority of claim was dissemination of the culture of fear
社會學家弗蘭克․富里迪在其書中提到：西方社會越來越被恐懼文化所主導，這種文化的特色，就是人們相信人性正被極具破壞性的力量摧毀，並且威脅到人類的存在。
Sociologist Frank FUREDI wrote in his book Western societies are increasingly dominated by a culture of fear . The defining feature of this culture is the belief that humanity is confronted by powerful destructive forces that threaten our everyday existence
要面對社會的多元，面對現實。
Face social diversity face the reality
我知道你們做得到的。
I know you can do it
"它有5個步驟：第一步是清楚地稱呼對方，第二步是指出問題所在，第三步是以沉默製造張力，第四步是指出要改善之處，而第五步是給予對方肯定，說知道對方做得到。
There are five steps first address them clearly; second point out the problem; third create tension with silence; fourth identify areas for improvement; and fifth recognize them telling them that you know they can do it . Pro - establishment Members do not be homophobic anymore
建制派，不要再恐同，不要再散播恐懼文化，接受社會現實，接受社會改變吧。
Do not spread the culture of fear anymore . Accept the reality and changes in society
現在說"一男一女、一夫一妻"，已經不再說"一生一世"，就是因為知道社會正在改變，我知道他們做得到的。
Nowadays we say monogamy between one man and one woman but for a lifetime is no longer said because of the changes in society . I know they can do it
主席，我謹此發言。
Chairman I so submit
代理主席，我支持成立專責委員會，調查選民資料失竊事件。
Deputy President I support the establishment of a select committee on investigating the incident of voter registration data theft
我希望各位立法會議員同事把握今次機會，令立法會可以調查選民資料失竊事件，使有關官員為自己失誤負責。
I hope Members of the Legislative Council can grasp this opportunity so that the Legislative Council can investigate the incident and the officials concerned can be held accountable for their mistakes
其實上星期審議《2017年撥款條例草案》的全體委員會審議階段，我也提出一項修正案，要求削減總選舉事務主任和首席選舉事務主任的薪酬。
In fact during the Committee stage of the Appropriation Bill 2017 last week I proposed an amendment to deduct the salaries of the Chief Electoral Officer and the Principal Electoral Officer
當然，在建制派眼中，所有削減撥款的修正案均是"拉布"和"搞事"，所以，他們一如既往地否決。
Of course in the eyes of the pro - establishment camp all amendments to reduce proposed appropriations were filibustering and trouble - making . As usual they had my amendment negatived . These two electoral officers can still happily receive their salaries every month
因此，這兩位選舉事務主任仍可安樂地每月獲發工資，尤其這位專為特首選舉而聘請的首席選舉事務主任仍然可以領取工資至12月31日，總選舉事務主任仍可安坐其位，無須為香港史上最大規模的個人資料外泄事件負上任何責任。
In particular the Principal Electoral Officer who has been employed especially for the Chief Executive Election can still receive her salary until 31 December . The Chief Electoral Officer can still remain in her post . They do not need to be held accountable for the biggest leakage of personal data in the history of Hong Kong
現時，有兩個部門正在調查選舉事務處的失竊事件，包括香港警務處，負責追緝盜取電腦的不法分子，而選舉事務處本身則進行內部調查。
Two government departments are now investigating the theft incident involving the Registration and Electoral Office REO . The Hong Kong Police Force is doing the job of tracking down the criminals who stole the computers . REO is conducting an internal investigation
他們3月時表示，會在兩個月後向選舉管理委員會和行政長官提交調查報告，而無論是警方還是選舉事務處，我們都認為是不能夠全面調查選民資料失竊事件的行政過失。
They said in March that they would submit their respective investigation reports to the Electoral Affairs Commission and the Chief Executive two months later . But we think both the Police and REO will be unable to conduct a comprehensive investigation into the maladministration involved in the incident of voter registration data theft
我現在要向大家分析，為甚麼立法會需要成立專責委員會，尤其是追查行政過失，這是警方或選舉事務處自己查自己，均難以達到的效果。
Let me give an analysis of why the Legislative Council needs to establish a select committee for the purpose of investigating the incident especially the maladministration involved . This purpose can hardly be achieved by both the Police and the internal investigation of REO
在3月27日，選舉事務處職員發現放在亞洲國際博覽館的兩部電腦被不法分子偷去，其中一部載有380萬名選民的個人資料。
On 27 March REO staff found that two computers kept in the AsiaWord - Expo AWE had been stolen by criminal elements . One of these two computers contained the personal information of 3.8 million registered voters
這新聞報道後，全城譁然，不少市民質疑，為甚麼1,200人參與的小圈子選舉，要用上300多萬名選民的資料？
The news reports on this incident led to huge public outcry . Many people queried why the holding of a coterie election involving only 1 200 people should need the personal information of more than 3 million voters
這安排是完全不合邏輯，完全不合常理。
This arrangement was absolutely illogical and totally unreasonable
但是，就這個安排，首席選舉事務主任必定要問責，他的任期至2017年12月31日，據當年人事編制小組委員會的文件，這位首席選舉事務主任其中一個主要職務是，籌備和進行2017年行政長官選舉，監察選舉部4個分部的工作，更重要的是，他會綜合整埋、審視和修訂主要選舉的應變計劃。
The Principal Electoral Officer must be held responsible for this arrangement . Her term of office will last until 31 December 2017 and according to a paper submitted to the Establishment Subcommittee one of the chief duties of the Principal Electoral Officer was to plan and organize the 2017 Chief Executive Election and she is also responsible for overseeing the work of four sub - divisions under the Elections Division . More importantly she must also consolidate review and revise contingency plans for the major elections
大家可能記得，亞博館那間房間，即特首選舉的後備會場，就是應變計劃的其中一部分，所以這名首席選舉事務主任絕對應該知道，甚至可能是他指令同事，將那些電腦放在亞博館的房間裏。
We may remember that the room in AWE used as the fallback venue for the Chief Executive Election was part of the contingency plan for the election . So the Principal Electoral Officer should absolutely have known that the computers were kept in the room in AWE and she might even have instructed that they be kept there
代理主席，我記得議員當時不斷追問，1,200人的選舉為甚麼要用上300多萬人的資料，總選舉事務主任和首席選舉事務主任均表示，因為有些非選委的市民會到會場，因此，要以這些資料來核對。
Deputy Chairman I remember that Members kept asking at the meeting why an election with only 1 200 voters should need the information of more than 3 million people . The Chief Electoral Officer and the Principal Electoral Officer both said that the information was needed for verification purpose because some members of the public who were not members of the Election Committee might go to the election venue . We all dismissed this reply as very ridiculous
在事件曝光至4月政制事務委員會會議期間，這兩名官員仍是死不認錯，至會議中被我們質詢，才說會檢討安排，但仍然沒有表示會負上任何責任，更指職員將載有300多萬名選民資料的手提電腦帶進亞博館房間中，自己是不知情。
All the time from the revelation of the incident to the meeting of the Panel on Constitutional Affairs in April these two officials simply refused to admit their mistake . It was only when we kept questioning them in the meeting that they eventually agreed to review the arrangement . But they still did not say that they would assume any responsibility for the incident
我們要問，即使他們對於那間房間中，有電腦載有300多萬名選民資料不知情，但對於1,200人的選舉中，有一部或兩部電腦載有300多萬名選民資料，他們是否應該知情呢？
They even said that they did not know that their staff had brought the computers containing the registration data of more than 3 million voters into the room in AWE . We want to ask a question . Even if they really did not know that a computer in the room contained the registration data of more than 3 million voters would they agree that it must be their duty to know when one computer or two computers containing the registration data of more than 3 million voters were kept inside the room for an election with just 1 200 voters?
我的答案是，他們必定需要知道有這個荒謬的安排。
My answer is it must be their duty to know when there is such an absurd arrangement
但是，現時380萬名選民個人資料的價值，以及所導致的經濟損失，我相信是多於380多萬元，即不是一位選民的資料只值1元。
Now I do believe that the personal information of 3.8 million registered voters and the resultant economic losses are worth much more than 3.8 million . In other words the registration information of one voter is worth more than just one dollar
由處方要發信道歉，至調查今次事件，進行檢討，至處方整個行動對今年整體選民登記行動的影響，一定會大打折扣；無論政府付出多少宣傳費，還是政黨和民間團體如何努力協助宣傳選民登記，均一定事倍功半。
To begin with REO has mailed many apology letters and an investigation and review must be conducted . Furthermore this whole incident involving REO will have impact on the entire voter registration campaign this year greatly reducing its effectiveness . And no matter how much the Government spends on publicity and how hard political parties and non - governmental organizations assist in the publicity on voter registration we will only get half the result with twice the effort
凡此種種，在運算後，所牽引的經濟損失，我真的不能想象。
When all these are added up and counted I frankly cannot imagine the resultant economic losses
但是，事件曝光後，當局是以"擠牙膏"的方式來透露資料，綜合政府在政制事務委員會會議提供的資料，我們才知道亞博館的保安是不合理地鬆懈，而亞博館保安鬆懈，正是整個選舉事務處均有責。
But since the revelation of the incident the authorities have been disclosing information in a very piecemeal fashion just like squeezing out a little bit of toothpaste at a time . It is only after consolidating the separate bits of information given at the meeting of the Panel on Constitutional Affairs that we can come to know of the unreasonably lax security measures in AWE and we think this is must be the fault of the whole REO . The investigation of a select committee under the Legislative Council will only go in this direction
立法會的專責委員會只是要調查這方向，我們不是要調查案件和拘捕犯人，這應由警察處理，但警察不會追究誰令保安系統鬆懈，誰會作出這麼傻、這麼不合常理的所謂行政決定？
Our aim is not to detect the theft case and arrest the criminals . This is the job of the Police . But the Police will not bother about who are to blame for the lax security measures and who made such a stupid and unreasonable administrative decision
在新聞曝光之後一兩天，選舉事務處再透露，原來千挑萬選之後，那間房正好是閉路電視拍攝不到的，很多事情也非常不合理。
One or two days after the revelation of the incident REO disclosed further that the room concerned which should have been carefully selected was in fact outside the surveillance of the closed - circuit television system . So you see there were so many things that did not make any sense at all
在政制事務委員會會議上，有委員要求交代，對於亞博館的電腦載有300多萬名選民資料的情況，有哪些高級官員是知情呢？
At the meeting of the Panel on Constitutional Affairs some members demanded that they be told which senior officials knew that the computers in AWE contained the registration data of more than 3 million voters
如果真有職員在不知情的情況下，將300多萬名選民的資料下載，再上載至電腦，然後又任由員工把資料帶出帶入，保安這麼鬆懈，總選舉事務主任和首席選舉事務主任是否應該負責呢？
If the security measures were so lax that some staff members could download the registration information of more than 3 million voters for reasons unknown then upload the data to some computers and bring the data everywhere should the Chief Electoral Officer and the Principal Electoral Officer be held accountable?
選舉事務處現時正進行內部調查，即自己查自己。
REO is now conducting an internal investigation
如果單靠選舉事務處的內部調查，我們認為無法調查得到任何結果；何謂"官官相衞"，對嗎？
Did it involve any conspiracy and deception? . If we rely solely on the internal investigation of REO it will not be possible to yield any investigation results . Government officials are friends of each other right?
當然，不認、不認還須認，如此大件事，沒有人可以遮掩得到。
But of course despite its reluctance it must still acknowledge the occurrence of the incident . No one could have been able to cover up such a serious incident
莫乃光議員的用字是："本委員會強烈譴責當局處理市民的個人資料時行政失當，並要求相關官員問責"。
Mr Charles Peter MOK on the other hand used this wording this Panel strongly condemns the authorities for maladministration in handling the personal data of members of the public and requests that the relevant officials be held accountable for the incident
立法會也沒奈何，這是無法律約束力的議案，但全部議員也是支持的，民主派、建制派也支持。
The Legislative Council will not be able to do anything because the motion does not have any legislative effect . However this motion was supported by all Members from both the democratic camp and the pro - establishment camp
所以，今天的討論就是想說，我們可否盡立法會議員最大的責任，不要只是提出一項議案，提出議案有何難度呢？
Therefore the point of our discussion today is to ask whether we can fully our duty as Members of the Legislative Council rather than just proposing a motion . It is frankly very easy to propose a motion right?
當然，有些人覺得可以等，等檢討委員會、等選舉事務處的內部報告。
Of course some people think that we can wait . They think that we can wait for the review committee and the internal report of REO
我很想問，尤其是提出這項議案的黃定光議員，如果選舉事務處的內部調查沒有甚麼結果我懷疑是"官官相衞"而檢討委員會只提出一些向前看的建議，屆時他會否再提出議案，用《立法會條例》調查這件事呢？
We want to ask a question and this question is especially for Mr WONG Ting - kwong . If the internal investigation of REO does not yield any results that are worth mentioning―for reasons of government officials are friends of each other―and the review committee only proposes some forward - looking recommendations will he propose another motion on invoking the Legislative Council Ordinance to investigate the incident?
還是事過境遷，副局長讀書，局長又退休，於是不了了之呢？
Or are we just going to let it all pass and fade out waving goodbye to the Under Secretary who is leaving for further studies and the Secretary who is retiring shortly?
所以，我希望今天建制派議員可以好好思考，如何以行動落實我們一齊投票支持的這項議案，當天支持的這項議案。
Today I hope Members of the pro - establishment camp will consider carefully how to put to action the motion we have all voted for . This is a motion we supported at that earlier meeting
代理主席，我們今天討論應否引用《立法會條例》徹查手提電腦失竊，選民資料外泄事件。
Deputy President today we are discussing whether we should invoke the Legislative Council Ordinance to thoroughly investigate the incident relating to the loss of notebook computers and the leakage of personal data of electors
在我直接討論這些細節之前，我希望與本會討論一下《立法會條例》的效力，又或者回顧一下過去兩屆立法會有否運用過這項條例，運用香港人賦予立法會的最高權力，調查一些我們應該調查的事情。
Before discussing directly the details of the incident I wish to talk about the effects of the Legislative Council Ordinance and review in retrospect the decisions made in the last two terms of the Legislative Council on whether the Ordinance should be invoked to exercise the greatest power given to this Council by Hong Kong people to inquire into cases we should investigate
今天，有建制派同事義正詞嚴地說：不要浪費大家的時間，因為已有其他機構嘗試調查這次選民資料失竊事件。
Some colleagues from the pro - establishment camp point out righteously and seriously today that we should not waste our time launching an inquiry since there are other agencies trying to investigate the loss of personal data of electors in the incident under discussion
2008年11月，本會曾通過引用《立法會條例》調查雷曼事件，那是2008年11月。
In November 2008 a proposal was passed in this Council to invoke the Legislative Council Ordinance for the investigation of the Lehman incident and it was November in 2008 then
為甚麼當天本會並不認為我們作雙重調查，是大費周章，費時失事呢？
Why did we not say that this was duplication of efforts unnecessary ado and a waste of time?
上述議員當時均投了贊成票。
These Members have all voted for the proposal back then
我實在很想請教一下這批於2008年11月認為立法會應引用《立法會條例》，調查雷曼事件的同事，為何當時在證監會已展開調查，並將會於3個月內提交報告的情況下，仍投贊成票？
I really want to hear it from these colleagues the reasons why they considered it necessary in November 2008 for this Council to invoke the Legislative Council Ordinance for the investigation of the Lehman incident and voted for the proposal then although an investigation has already been initiated by SFC and a report would be submitted within three months
難道2008年的香港與2017年的香港有很大分別？
Was the situation of Hong Kong in 2008 very much different from that in 2017?
究竟這是時移世易，還是雙重標準？
Is it because things have changed with the passage of time or is it due to the adoption of double standards?
究竟這是打倒昨日的我，還是嘗試護短？
Is it an act to overturn what they have done yesterday or is it an attempt to cover up the mistakes now?
代理主席，剛才提到的數位建制派議員，至今仍在立法會服務香港市民，我當然不能代替他們說話。
Deputy President Members from the pro - establishment camp whom I named just now are still serving Hong Kong people in the Legislative Council today and I am of course in no position to speak for them
不過，我相信，他們在未來必然有機會向公眾作出交代。
However I do believe that they will surely have a chance to offer an explanation to the public in the future
代理主席，做人不應忘本，立法會的職責為何？
Deputy President we should not forget who we are and what the duties and responsibilities of the Legislative Council are
我們不是要維護政府，也不是要代政府發言，立法會議員更不是政府高官，乃至特首的私人代表。
We are not here to defend or speak for the Government and Members of the Legislative Council are no senior government officials or private representatives of the Chief Executive
我們的工作是監察政府，而《立法會條例》 正賦予我們這種權力，為市民做我們應做之事。
It is our duty to monitor the work of the Government and the Legislative Council Ordinance has given us the powers to do so so that we would be able to do what we should do for the people
不過，我知道本會曾經有同事，清楚知道自己有何責任。
Nevertheless it occurs to me that there are colleagues in this Council who once understood clearly what responsibilities they should take
究竟政府官員有否為此做過深切檢討和反省？
Have government officials ever conducted thorough reviews and reflected deeply on the case?
有否就整個制度流程作任何公開的反省？
Have they ever reflected openly on the entire system and procedures?
我們似乎得不到任何圓滿的交代。
A satisfactory explanation seems to be unavailable
我們無人知曉。
No one knows
選舉事務處指出，在這宗密室失竊事件中，當時場內共有32部電腦，其中6部含有全港300多萬名選民的資料。
The Registration and Electoral Office pointed out that in this theft case which happened behind closed door there were a total of 32 computers in the venue and six of them contained the personal data of all 3 million odd electors in Hong Kong
就着這兩部電腦如何不翼而飛，市民是否不應該知道，是否不可以透過立法會查個水落石出呢？
As for the question of how did these two computers vanish into thin air is it something that members of the public should not know or should not try to find out the truth through the Legislative Council?
政府是否仍舊可以拍胸脯保證，在未來的日子，直至永遠，電腦內的相關資料也不會被賊人破解呢？
Does the Government have the confidence to guarantee that in the days to come the data contained in the computers stolen could not be retrieved by the thieves forever?
代理主席，我相信政府絕不可以這樣說。因為常識告訴我們，隨着電腦科技發展，只要我一天擁有這些電腦，只要我一天有辦法，我便可以解除相關防盜措施。
Deputy President I am sure the Government could never say so because it is common knowledge that with the advancement in computer technology as long as they are still having these computers at their hands a method will eventually be available someday to deactivate the anti - theft system
那麼，在此情況下，其實全香港所有選民的相關個人資料，包括身份證號碼、中英文姓名及中文姓名電碼，便好比暴露於陽光下。
Hence under such circumstances the personal data of all electors in Hong Kong including their identity card number name in Chinese and English and the Chinese commercial code for their Chinese name are in fact fully exposed in broad day light
這並非危言聳聽，而是邏輯推理，是有可能會發生的事情。
These are not alarmist talks but are logical reasoning and these things could possibly happen
實際上，究竟政府要以甚麼方法保障市民呢？
In fact what exactly will the Government do to protect the personal data privacy of Hong Kong people?
難道立法會不值得就這一點，迫使政府為我們作出合理解釋嗎？
Is it not a point worth exploring by the Legislative Council thereby urging the Government to offer us a reasonable explanation?
代理主席，網絡保安專家曾經提出，其實現時75%以上的網絡犯罪，未必需要直接利用私人資料，向銀行或金融機構行騙。
Deputy President network security experts have pointed out that in over 75 % of cybercrimes at present offenders can actually commit fraudulent acts to deceive banks or financial institutions without the need of using any personal data directly
罪犯只需要透過一些社交網絡，假扮金融機構，便已可盜取到相關私人資料，例如帳戶號碼或個人地址等。
It would be possible for offenders to simply fake messages of financial institutions on certain social networks and then obtain personal data such as account number or personal address by theft
然後，這些資料便可以再轉售作其他犯 案工作。
Such data could then be resold for other illegal purposes
即使政府認為普羅百姓的個人資料不重要，沒有兜售價值，那麼李嘉誠、李澤楷和李澤鉅父子的資料夠可貴吧？
If the Government considers the personal data of members of the general public not important and do not have much value for reselling how about the personal data of LI Ka - shing and his two sons Richard LI and Victor LI?
擁有這3個人的身份證號碼、中文姓名電碼和中英文姓名，不知道又值多少錢呢？
How precious would their personal data be and how much money could be made by those who have the identity card number the Chinese commercial code for the Chinese name and the name in Chinese and English of these three persons at hand?
如果李氏三父子有任何財產上的損失，不知道香港政府又如何賠償呢？
If any property loss is caused to the father and sons of the LIs family how would the Government make compensation to them?
我不希望這會變成事實，我亦不希望李氏三父子會有任何損失；同樣地，我亦不希望有任何一名香港市民會由於今次失竊事件，遭受任何損失。
I do not want to see that what I have said would turn into the truth and neither do I hope that any loss would be caused to the father and sons of the LIs family . Similarly it is also not my wish to see any one of us in Hong Kong would suffer any loss as a result of the theft case in question
因此，政府應該要作出交代，應該讓立法會進行調查，包括為何會出現這個低級錯誤，為何會出現這個完全違反常理和邏輯的錯誤。
Therefore the Government should offer us an explanation and let the Legislative Council conduct an inquiry into the incident including the reasons for making such a silly mistake which is totally insensible and illogical