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事件曝光後，當局以"擠牙膏"的方式透露資料，綜合政制事務委員會會議上政府提供的資料，我們得悉亞博館的保安不合理地鬆懈，就此，總選舉事務主任及首席選舉事務主任責無旁貸。
After the incident was exposed the authorities disclosed information like squeezing toothpaste out of a tube . Consolidating the information provided by the Government at meetings of the Panel on Constitutional Affairs we have learnt that the security of AsiaWorld - Expo is unreasonably lax . In this connection the Chief Electoral Officer and the Principal Electoral Officer have an unshirkable responsibility
之前有議員就此事件向譚志源問責，當然譚志源作為政制及內地事務局局長，亦須負上一定責任，但若真正要為此事問責，或因此事削減薪酬，我認為首要應削減總選舉事務主任及首席選舉事務主任的薪酬。
Members wanted to held Raymond TAM accountable for this . Raymond Tam as the Secretary for Constitutional and Mainland Affairs of course should bear a certain share of the responsibility . But if someone should be held accountable or given a salary cut for this incident I believe it should be the Chief Electoral Officer and the Principal Electoral Officer
在新聞曝光後一兩天，選舉事務處再透露，原來那間 房間幾經挑選，才選擇了一個閉路電視不能完全拍攝的位置。
A couple of days after the news was reported the Registration and Electoral Office disclosed that the room which cannot be fully filmed by closed - circuit television was carefully selected
在政制事務委員會會議上，總選舉事務主任在議員質詢之下表示，一個放置多部選舉事務處電腦的房間竟然沒有保安把守。
When questioned by members at the meeting of the Panel on Constitutional Affairs the Chief Electoral Officer disclosed that the room in which multiple computers of the Registration and Electoral Office were placed was not guarded by any security staff
這些基本的保安安排，負責行政長官選舉應變計劃的首席選舉事務主任絕對應該知情和負責，而管理這名首席選舉事務主任的總選舉事務主任亦責無旁貸。
The Principal Electoral Officer who is responsible for the contingency plans of the Chief Executive Election should be aware of and responsible for these basic arrangements and the Chief Electoral Officer managing this Principal Electoral Officer is also duty - bound
他們兩位若無須負實際責任，如何向公眾交代？
How can these two hold themselves accountable to the public if no actual responsibility is borne?
道理很簡單，如果告訴我口袋中有千多元，主席可能跌在地上也不會拾回，但如果說口袋中有380多萬元，誰也會緊張，誰也會金睛火眼瞪着，取也不敢取，會召喚保安攜槍去取。
The logic is simple if one has around 1,000 in his pocket the Chairman may not even pick it up when the money is seen dropped on the floor; but if one has more than 3.8 million in his pocket anyone will be nervous and stares hard at it . We may even call in armed security guards to collect it because we are afraid of carrying such a sum
今次我們遺失的物件，我想價值較380多萬元現金更高。
I believe what we have lost this time is worth more than 3.8 million cash
第一，發信致歉會花數百萬元；其次，今年選民登記運動登記人數一定創新低，因為市民不願意提交資料，我現在在街上鼓勵市民登記做選民，市民表示：他們剛剛被打劫，又未有表示是否捉到兇手，又沒有認錯，現在叫我再放錢在他們處？
First it costs millions of dollars to send apology letters; and second the number of new registered voters of this years Voter Registration Campaign will definitely hit a record low because people are not willing to supply their information . When I encouraged people to register as voters on the street they told me they have just gotten stolen yet they have neither announced whether the thief was caught nor admitted their fault now you are asking me to place money with them again?
第三宗罪是試圖以不知情來卸責，在政制事務委員會會議上，有議員要求這些高級官員解釋對亞博館電腦載有300多萬名選民資料的知情情況，譚志源及總選舉事務主任黃思文聲稱對選民資料被帶到亞博館並不知情。
Since I have a little over a minute left so I shall talk about the third crime which is the attempt to shirk responsibility by saying that they did not know . At the meeting of the Panel on Constitutional Affairs members requested these senior officials to explain their awareness of the computers containing information of more than 3 million voters at AsiaWorld - Expo . In response Raymond TAM and Chief Electoral Officer WONG See - man claimed that the voters information was brought to AsiaWorld - Expo without their knowledge
黃思文認為或有員工在未有上級批准下把電腦帶到亞博館。
WONG See - man believed the computers might have been brought by staff to AsiaWorld - Expo without the approval of their superiors
我再追問，我記得尹兆堅議員亦有幫忙追問，首席選舉事務主任馬笑虹亦表示不知情，原來我們的政府有不知者不罪這塊免死金牌。
When I pursued the question and so did Mr Andrew WAN as I remember Principal Electoral Officer Candy MA also said she had no knowledge of it . I did not know that ignorance means not guilty can be used as a golden shield of immunity in the Government
我提醒委員，按照辯論安排，這項辯論將於今天晚上約8時結束。
I remind Members that according to the debate arrangements this debate will end at around 8col00 pm today
有關委員發言後，這項辯論即告結束。
This debate will come to a close after the Members have spoken
有意發言的其他委員，尤其是尚未發言的委員，請盡早按下"要求發言"按鈕。
Members who wish to speak in particular those who have not yet spoken please press the Request to speak button as early as possible
主席，我動議講稿附錄1A中，編號1由我提出的修正案，關於"總目21―行政長官辦公室"分目000，削減行政長官辦公室全年運作開支。
Chairman I move Amendment No . 1 as set out in Appendix 1A to the Script which is proposed by me to subhead 000 of Head 21―Chief Executives Office . It reduces the annual operating expenses of the Chief Executives Office
削減的數額是117,362,223元，相當於將行政長官辦公室全年運作開支削減至只有777元。
The reduction amounts to 117,362,223 equivalent to reducing the annual operational expenses of the Chief Executives Office to 777
首先我想指出，在這項辯論中，有14位議員提出85項修正案。
First of all I would like to point out that in this debate 14 Members will propose 85 amendments
行政長官辦公室這個總目，主要由兩個綱領組成：綱領1行政長官辦公室，及綱領2行政會議。
The head of the Chief Executives Office mainly consists of two programmes Programme 1 Chief Executives Office and Programme 2 Executive Council
我提出削減的1億1,700萬元當中，有9,290萬元是屬於綱領1的。
In the reduction of 117,000,000 proposed by me 92,900,000 belongs to Programme 1
綱領1包括甚麼呢？
So what does Programme 1 cover?
包括行政長官薪酬、由九七主權移交一直任職至今的高級特別助理的薪酬，以及自詡香港"白宮發言人"的新聞統籌專員馮煒光先生的薪酬。
It covers the Chief Executives emoluments the emoluments of the Senior Special Assistant who has been on the job since the handover of sovereignty in 1997 as well as the emoluments of Mr Andrew FUNG Information Coordinator and self - proclaimed White House Press Secretary
稍後有議員會特別針對新聞統籌專員的開支提出修正案。
Later on Members will propose amendments to expenses on the Information Coordinator
綱領1其中一個宗旨是"提供支援予行政長官，以輔助他制定政策和兌現《施政報告》的承諾"。
One of the aims of Programme 1 is to provide support to the Chief Executive in policy formulation and delivery of pledges made in the Policy Address
這個是綱領1最大的宗旨。
This is the greatest aim of Programme 1
我們用公帑去"養"行政長官，想他做甚麼？
We use public funds to keep the Chief Executive and what do we want him to do?
很老實說，過去5年，行政長官辦公室沒有兌現"689"梁振英的施政承諾。
Frankly speaking in the last five years the Chief Executives Office has failed to deliver the policy pledges 689 LEUNG Chun - ying has made
在他任期餘下3個月的時間其實沒有3個月，差不多兩個月多一些我亦不見得他提出的承諾會得到兌現。
In the remaining three months of his tenure―indeed less than three months; a tad more than two months―I do not see how his pledges will be delivered
五年前梁振英參選的時候，曾經作出的多個承諾言猶在耳，可是，5年過去了，"十劃未有一撇"。
The promises LEUNG Chun - ying made in the election five years ago still ring in our ears . However five years have passed and nothing has hardly been done
梁振英曾經表示會研究全民退休保障，結果我們得到的是有資產審查的假全民退休保障。
LEUNG Chun - ying once said he would conduct a study on universal retirement protection; the outcome is a bogus universal retirement protection with means tests
梁振英當選後表示，香港再沒有"梁營"、"唐營"，只有"香港營"。
After winning the election LEUNG Chun - ying said there would be no more LEUNGs camp or TANGs camp but only a Hong Kong Camp
這個思想也潛藏在施政報告當中，但他做了甚麼實際行動呢？
Such a thought is embedded in the Policy Address but what practical actions has he taken?
過去5年，他透過不同的手段去撕裂香港：透過強推國民教育，一上任便引起國教風波；然後，他逆民意而行，以"一男子"因素拒絕發牌予香港電視；當市民以和平示威方式要求真普選，梁振英向市民發射催淚彈。
In the last five years he has been stirring up dissension in Hong Kong through various means he forcefully introduced national education igniting the national education controversy once he took office; then he acted against public opinions to refuse to grant a licence to Hong Kong Television Network Limited because of the factor of one single man; while people were asking for genuine universal suffrage in a peaceful demonstration LEUNG Chun - ying fired tear gas at them
梁振英事事唯恐天下不亂，結果令香港撕裂成為"藍絲"、"黃絲"兩大陣營。
LEUNG Chun - yings desire to see the world in disorder has caused the split of Hong Kong into the two camps of blue ribbons and yellow ribbons
梁振英更不惜"DQ"多名議員，令社會進一步撕裂。
LEUNG Chun - ying even did not hesitate to seek disqualification of a number of Members creating further social dissension
在中共不准梁振英連任之下，曾俊華出來參選，成為左、中、右陣營鮮有一致支持的候選人，雖然我不支持他。
Given the forbiddance of a second term of LEUNG Chun - ying by the Communist Party of China John TSANG stepped forward to declare his intent of contesting the election becoming the rare aspirant who won the unanimous support of the leftist moderate and rightist camps though I did not support him
接着，梁振英便不斷攻擊意圖修補裂痕的曾俊華。
Subsequently LEUNG Chun - ying kept attacking John TSANG who attempted to mend the rift
另外，一宗近期發生的事件，也可以讓大家清楚明白"香港營"的失敗，便是"林鄭"當選後，提出在上任前取消一些具爭議的政策，梁振英均一口拒絕。
Also a recent incident can also shed some light on the failure of the Hong Kong Camp that is after Carrie LAM was elected her proposals for abolition of some controversial policies before she assumes office were met with LEUNG Chun - yings resolute refusals
重開公民廣場，連一些建制派議員都贊成，梁振英也拒絕。
Even some Members from the pro - establishment camp supported the reopening of the Civic Square but LEUNG Chun - ying refused
由他當選後立刻表示要打破"梁營"、"唐營"，建造"香港營"他只是說到今日卸任前兩個月，他正在做的事情，一直是大規模搜捕抗爭人士。
From him declaring his intention to scrap the LEUNGs camp and TANGs camp for the creation of a Hong Kong Camp―it was just empty talk of his―to today which is a tad more than two months before he retires from office he has only been capturing protestors on a large scale
這是他製造矛盾及撕裂的行為，一而再、再而三違背建立"香港營"的承諾，而行政長官辦公室亦有不少幫兇，例如馮煒光之流，助紂為虐，煽風點火。
His actions to create conflicts and dissension were repeated betrayals of the pledge of creating a Hong Kong Camp . He has many accomplices in the Chief Executives Office such as Andrew FUNG who helped him perpetuate his oppression and fanned the flames of troubles
行政長官辦公室及梁振英另一個破壞施政報告承諾的最顯著行為，就是破壞香港的核心價值。
Another brazen act of vandalizing the pledges made in the Policy Address committed by the Chief Executives Office and LEUNG Chun - ying is the destruction of the core values of Hong Kong
2013年施政報告的第197段提到，"我就職時向香港市民承諾，保障市民權益，維護人權、法治、廉潔、自由、民主等核心價值，包容各種立場和意見，並尊重新聞自由。
Paragraph 197 of the 2013 Policy Address reads In my inaugural speech I pledged to the Hong Kong people that I will safeguard the interests of the people and uphold the core values of Hong Kong including human rights rule of law clean government freedom and democracy tolerance of different stances and views and respect for press freedom
其中，司法獨立及法治不單是我們珍惜的核心價值，也是香港成功的基石。
Among them judicial independence and the rule of law are not only our cherished core values but also the cornerstone of Hong Kongs success
"事隔4年多，梁振英不斷向傳媒發出律師信，打擊新聞自由； 控告議員誹謗，打擊言論自由；濫用司法覆核程序"DQ"議員，令司法獨立蕩然無存。
Some four years down the line LEUNG Chun - ying has incessantly issued litigation letters to media to curb the freedom of press; he has sued a Member for defamation to curb the freedom of speech; he has abused the judicial review procedure to seek disqualification of Members obliterating judicial independence
在梁振英的管治之下，核心價值消失殆盡，而行政長官辦公室亦有份助紂為虐。
Under the governance of LEUNG Chun - ying our core values have vanished and the Chief Executives Office has been an accessory to it
在餘下的兩個多月，梁振英的工作更與香港及施政報告無關，行政長官辦公室要協助梁振英執行這些與香港施政報告無關的工作，為何我們要撥款給他呢？
In the remaining two - odd months LEUNG Chun - ying is doing work that is not related to Hong Kong and the Policy Address . The Chief Executives Office will assist LEUNG Chun - ying in executing work not related to the Policy Address of Hong Kong then why do we grant him funding?
其他議員如郭家麒議員及胡志偉議員也提出同樣的修正案，我屆時會支持他們的修正案。
Other Members such as Dr KWOK Ka - ki and Mr WU Chi - wai have also proposed similar amendments and I will support them
梁振英自今年3月13日成為政協副主席之後，身兼特首及政協副主席。
Since LEUNG Chun - ying was appointed a Vice - chairman of CPPCC on 13 March this year he has assumed the dual roles of the Chief Executive and Vice - chairman of CPPCC
自3月13日至今，除了批評曾俊華及拒絕林鄭月娥的要求外，他很少針對香港的本地事務露面和發言。
From 13 March apart from criticizing John TSANG and rejecting Carrie LAMs requests he has rarely made public appearances and comments on local affairs
但是，他卻積極進行一些施政報告沒提及的事務。
However he has been actively pursuing matters not mentioned in the Policy Address
我們仔細看看綱領1的宗旨，行政長官辦公室不是要協助行政長官履行其選舉承諾及施政報告承諾的嗎？
Reading the aims of Programme 1 in detail is it not the job of the Chief Executives Office to assist the Chief Executive in delivering the pledges he made in the election and the Policy Address?
為何梁振英有自己的承諾不理，現時任期剩下兩個多月都不盡力去做，以兌現選舉承諾，反而將焦點放在大灣區，又強迫港府官員全部聚焦大灣區？
Why does LEUNG Chun - ying not pay attention to his own pledges and spare no efforts to deliver his campaign pledges in the remaining two months and so of his term of office but rather focus on the Bay Area and force all the government officials to do the same?
由他出任特首的那一刻，我們都說他沒有資格領取這份薪酬，每年亦有不少議員提出削減其薪酬的修正案。
From the moment he took office as Chief Executive we have been saying he is not qualified to receive such emoluments . Every year many Members proposed amendments to reduce his emoluments
本財政年度的最近數個月，他不務正業，不應該支取薪酬，更不應該獲得政府的支援。
In the last few months of this financial year he has not been engaged in his own proper business and so should not receive emoluments and support from the Government
總結其5年的特首生涯，有如我在2015年形容他"誠信破產，指鹿為馬，反社會人格障礙，遺臭萬年的殺港兇手"。
In drawing a conclusion on his five years as Chief Executive just as how I described him in 2015 he is a morally bankrupt murderer of Hong Kong suffering from antisocial personality disorder who swears black is white and will be cursed by posterity
主席，你說如果議員不要求點算法定人數，而議員又很有質素地因應修正案進行辯論，今天這一節是第2項辯論，有14位議員可以提出總共85項修正案，而我自己提出了13項，但今天我只是發言了兩次而已。
Chairman you say that if Members do not make quorum calls and speak solidly on the amendments 14 Members will be able to speak and propose a total of 85 amendments today in this second debate . I have proposed 13 of the amendments but I only had so far two opportunities to speak today
有議員剛才指我們提出的修正案沒有提供充足理由我記得是何君堯議員他說得對，其實我提出的每一項修正案均希望可以提供充足的理由，令市民和議員明白，為何我要提出這項修正案，亦希望大家可以支持。
Some Member I remember the Member is Dr Junius HO claimed that we did not provide sufficient support for our amendments . He is right . I also want to provide sufficient support for each of my amendments so that the public and Members will understand why I need to propose the amendments and thus support them
但是，我這個實驗是想告訴大家，主席，在你的框架下，我們已甚少要求點算法定人數，即使每人爭取發言機會，也不能夠向大家解釋我們的修正案。
And I wish to tell Members through this experiment that Chairman under the time frame you set we have already refrained from making quorum calls but still we could not explain our amendments to Members despite seizing every opportunity to speak . In my last speech I was speaking on Amendment No . 174
我珍惜時間，繼續就修正案編號174發言。
I will not waste time and I will now continue with Amendment No . 174
大家看到的客觀現實是，即使我們沒有點算人數或甚少點算人數，仍未有足夠時間向大家解釋我們的修正案，你們明年就不要說："'慢咇'，你提出了10多項修正案，但又沒有作辯論和解釋。
Take a look at the objective situation now . Even though we have not or rarely made quorum calls we still do not have sufficient time to explain our amendments to Members . So next year would you people please do not say Slow Beat you have not spoken on or explained the 10 amendments you proposed
"雖然我們已盡了最大努力，想爭取最多時間向大家解釋，但始終解釋不到在這個時間框架下解釋不到。
No matter how hard we have tried to fight for more time to explain our amendments to Members we have failed; we have failed to explain them under this time frame
我希望可以很詳細地解釋給大家知道，為何我要提出這項修正案，亦希望民主派和建制派均會支持這項修正案。
I wish to explain in detail why I have proposed this amendment and lobby for support from the democratic and the pro - establishment camps
如果你只選擇支持我一項修正案，請你支持這一項，或有關削減全港性系統評估考試試卷印刷費的修正案。
If they will only support one of my amendments would they please support this one or the one on slashing the printing cost of the examination papers of the Territory - wide System Assessment
我要削減總選舉事務主任及首席選舉事務主任的薪酬，因為我概括了6宗罪，我在上一節已提及3宗，包括做事違反基本常識邏輯，即攜帶全部3,800萬名選民資料往亞洲國際博覽館；第二宗罪是保安錯漏百出；第三宗罪是試圖以不知情來卸責。
I wish to cut the emoluments of Chief Electoral Officer and Principal Electoral Officer for the six fallacies they committed . I covered three in my last speech including their illogical practice of having brought with them the data of 38 million electors to the AsiaWorld - Expo; secondly their loophole - plagued security arrangement; and thirdly their attempt to shirk responsibility by claiming ignorance
很多人會說不知者不罪，首先我覺得不知情不能作為卸責的藉口。
Many people would say that they should not be blamed for the things they are ignorant of . But to begin with I do not think that ignorance should be used as an excuse to escape responsibilities
讓我作很簡單的比喻，我相信大家也會認同，如果今次這件失竊選民資料事件並非在選舉事務處發生，而是在任何一個選舉參選人身上發生，你覺得後果會如何？
Let me make a simple analogy . I believe Members will agree that if the electors information stolen in this incident took place not in REOs room at the venue but in the room of one of the election candidates what would happen?
這名參選人一定會受千夫所指，要承擔政治責任甚至法律責任。
This candidate would definitely be severely criticized and would have to take the political or even legal consequences
雖然我們控制的選民資料只有姓名、地址和email，但如果告訴大家遺失了這些資料，這可大件事了。
Despite the fact that the information only involves the name address and email of the electors it is still a serious matter if the information is lost
所以，作為一名主管人員及項目負責人員，絕不能用不知情作為卸責的理由，應當為不知情負上管理失當的責任。
Hence as a controlling officer or project manager he absolutely could not shirk his responsibility in the name of ignorance; he should take responsibility of maladministration because of his ignorance
第四宗罪是道歉欠缺誠意，難釋市民怒氣。
The fourth fallacy is the insincere apology which fails to settle public grievances
在2017年3月30日，選舉事務處向全港300多萬選民發出信件和電郵當然，亦有人指責那些信件是浪費金錢及不環保以總選舉事務主任的名義發出，非常官腔，誠意欠奉，更沒有問責精神。
On 30 March 2017 REO issued letters and emails to over 3 million electors in the territory of course some people criticize that this is wasteful and environmentally - unfriendly . The letters are issued by the Chief Electoral Officer . The letter is extremely bureaucratic in tone showing no sincerity nor accountability spirit
這封信真正致歉的句子其實只有一句而已，便是"我們就事件對選民造成的不便和困擾衷心致歉"。
Only one line in the letter is about their apology . It says The REO sincerely apologizes for the inconvenience and distress to electors caused by the incident
不少市民憂慮，選舉事務處以如此粗疏的態度來處理手提電腦，又不必要地把這300多萬名選民資料存放在電腦內，是否道歉便可了 事呢？
Many people are worried . REO has unnecessarily stored the information of over 3 million electors in its notebook computers which shows its carelessness in handling its computers . Is making an apology sufficient to settle the matter?
如果有人因此而有任何損失，除了向盜取資料的人追究外，還可否向選舉事務處及我們這個特區政府追究呢？
If someone suffers any loss due to the incident apart from seeking responsibilities from the one who stole the information can he also seek responsibilities from REO and the SAR Government?
我想請問，大家是否接受這個不用付出任何代價的道歉？
May I ask whether you would accept such an apology that costs them nothing?
況且，在整封信中，總選舉事務主任不曾提及也未有承認自己有錯，只表示為困擾致歉現在香港市民也很困擾，不知道個人資料會否被人用作不法用途。
Besides the Chief Electoral Officer did not mention or admit his fault in the entire letter except apologizing for the distress caused . The people of Hong Kong are indeed very distress now . They are worried that their personal data may be used by other people for illicit purposes
第五宗罪是試圖隱瞞事件，漠視市民的知情權。
The fifth fallacy is their attempt to hide the incident and their disrespect for the publics right to know
選舉事務處在3月27日發現電腦失竊，但事件發生後，不是它主動公布消息。
REO did not proactively report the theft of their notebook computers to the public after the incident took place on 27 March
在3月28日晚上，有傳媒收到消息，報道相關的新聞，並向選舉事務處查詢。
On the night of 28 March the media received information about the incident and reported it . The media also tried to confirm the incident with REO
選舉事務處在當晚10時05分才發表題為"選舉事務處回覆傳媒查詢"的新聞稿，初步交代事件。
On that night at 10col05 pm REO issued a press release titled REO responds to media enquiries to preliminarily report the incident
發生如此重大、對市民有切身關係的事故，第一個公布消息的不是政府，而是傳媒機構，在傳媒機構獲得消息後，政府才作宣布。
The first party to report such a serious incident an incident that closely related to members of the public is not the Government but the media . The Government made an announcement only after the media received the information
我十分質疑，如果沒有傳媒報道，政府會否或何時才會主動公布這消息呢？
I really wonder if the media did not receive the information whether or when the Government will take the initiative to announce the incident to the public?
大家覺得這是否總選舉事務主任，以及負責2017年行政長官選舉的首席選舉事務主任的責任呢？因為他們沒有主動和及早發放這個消息。
Do you think the Chief Electoral Officer and the Principal Electoral Officer who took charge of the 2017 Chief Executive Election should take the responsibility for not taking the initiative to report the incident early?
最後一宗罪是試圖淡化事件，誤導公眾。
The last fallacy is their attempt to water down the incident and mislead the public
自事件曝光後，政府不斷強調電腦有雙重加密，很難破解，數百年也不能破解，想淡化事件。
After the incident was brought to light the Government tried to water down the incident by saying that the data was protected by multiple encryptions very difficult to break through without taking hundreds of years
但是，很多資訊科技界人士也指出，政府是過於"大安旨意"，其實只要匪徒有電腦，而電腦內也有其他程式，亦可能有方法破解加密系統，獲得內裏的資料。
But many IT practitioners are saying that the Government is having a false sense of security . In fact any criminals can find a way to break through encrypted data as long as he can get hold of the computers and there are other programmes in the computers . The Government is actually sending a misleading message to the public that the encryptions are very difficult to break through
事實上，發放"很難破解"的信息是誤導公眾，想淡化事件，降低市民的警覺性，所以我覺得這兩位選舉主任亦要負責。
It tries to water down the incident and lower the alertness of the public to the matter . I thus think that the two Electoral Officers should also take responsibilities for the incident
接着說回在4月11日政制事務委員會會議上，不少建制派議員也義憤填膺，嚴詞質問總選舉事務主任和首席選舉事務主任。
Next I want to talk about the meeting of the Panel on Constitutional Affairs on 11 April . Many pro - establishment Members were indignant and used very strong words to question the Chief Electoral Officer and Principal Electoral Officer
建制派和民主派均提出不具法律約束力的議案。
The democratic and pro - establishment camps each moved a non - binding motion
黃定光議員在席，我記得我也支持黃定光議員的議案，他的議案措辭是："選舉事務處遺失全港300萬選民資料事件，影響嚴重。
Mr WONG Ting - kwong is present now . I remember I also supported his motion
"莫乃光議員的議案措辭是："本委員會強烈譴責當局處理市民的個人資料時行政失當，並要求相關官員問責。
And Mr Charles Peter MOKs motion wording reads This Panel strongly condemns the authorities for maladministration in handling the personal data of members of the public and requests that the relevant officials be held accountable for the incident
"看起來，黃定光議員的用字較莫乃光議員更強硬和有力，他要求懲處失職的官員，不單要求官員問責，兩項如此強力的議案均獲事務委員會一致通過。
Mr WONG Ting - kwong uses even stronger and more forceful words in his motion than Mr Charles Peter MOK does . Mr WONG not only asks the Administration to hold the defaulting officials accountable to the incident but also penalize them . These two strong motions were unanimously endorsed by Panel members
可惜，上述議案並無法律約束力。
Regrettably the motions above are not binding
但是，我今天的修正案則不同，因為我的修正案是修訂《2017年撥款條例草案》，且具法律效力，可以懲處失職的官員，向相關官員問責。
But this amendment of mine is different because it seeks to amend the Appropriation Bill 2017 and is binding . It can hold defaulting officials accountable and penalize them
剛才有建制派議員批評指，民主派議員提出的修正案都是瑣碎無聊，當然，大家政治立場不同，你對我們提出的修正案作出批評，我是明白的。
Just now some pro - establishment Members criticized that the amendments proposed by democratic Members were frivolous . I can certainly understand their criticisms against our amendments due to our different political stands
不過，可能有人會說，政府在這些修正案中只會削減總目內的金額，而不會達致議員的目的，即使支持了，亦只會減少選舉事務處的資源，選舉事務處可能亦會調撥資源，繼續發放薪酬予二人。
Perhaps some people may say that these amendments which seek to cut different amounts of money under the corresponding heads cannot achieve the purpose the movers intend to achieve and that even if they support this amendment it will only cut the resources of REO and REO can redeploy its resources to pay emoluments to the two officials
但是，我必須指出，這項修正案涉及的款項非常少，只是3,160,950元，相對於選舉事務處全年的撥款開支5億5,400萬元，只是1%而已，絕對不會影響選舉事務處的實質運作。
I must point out that this amendment only involves a very small amount of money or 3,160,950 to be exact . This only accounts for 1 % of the annual estimate earmarked for REO which is 554 million . This amount of money will definitely not affect the actual operation of REO