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所以，我們認為較妥善的做法是我們與內地相關部委達成一 些共識後才作出交代。
Therefore we think it is better to give an account of the details after we have reached a consensus with the relevant Mainland authorities
其實，我在主體答覆中也說過，我們會有時間聽取社會意見。
In fact as I said in the main reply there will be time for us to listen to the views in society
主席，"兩地兩檢"不是一種選項，我認為也不要浪費時間去想了。
President a separate - location model is not an option and let us not waste time thinking about it
"一地兩檢"現時所面對的問題，主要不是法律的問題，我認為是政治感覺的問題。
The problem currently faced by the co - location arrangement is mainly not a question of law but a question of impression in politics
我想問局長的是，我上月曾與一些專家進行討論，他們認為透過附件三實施全國性法律的做法不會予以考慮，亦不會修改《基本法》，他們指出，主要的研究方向一定是深圳灣模式。
I wish to ask the Secretary this Last month I had discussions with some experts who held that consideration would not be given to applying national laws through Annex III; nor would there be any amendment made to the Basic Law . They pointed out that the main direction of consideration is definitely the Shenzhen Bay model
無論是英美、美加或英法，其實最後都是回歸"一國兩制"下的深圳灣模式。
Whether it be the model adopted by Britain or the United States or that adopted between the United States and Canada or Britain and France actually they all eventually revert to the Shenzhen Bay model under one country two systems
但是，我知道這似乎並不容易，他們可能是堅持完全與深圳灣模式一樣，也就是擁有全面管轄權。
But I understand that this seems to be not easy . They may insist on fully following the Shenzhen Bay model under which jurisdiction can be exercised fully
究竟是採用全面管轄權，還是局部管轄權？
Will it be full or partial jurisdiction?
主席，我想問一問局長你覺得公道嗎？
President may I ask the Secretary if he finds this fair at all?
你花了9年時間也說不出方案，現在卻迫香港社會以1年時間討論，並且通過本地立法，你認為這樣做公道嗎？
You have spent nine years on it and yet you cannot present any proposal . Now you are forcing the community of Hong Kong to spend one year discussing it and completing the process of local legislation altogether . Do you consider this fair?
假設你們的建議會帶來一些法律後果，你們又會否將所有責任推到另一方身上呢？
Assuming your proposal will bring forth some consequences in law will you shift all the responsibility to the other party then?
政府必須開誠布公，因為不論是局部管轄權還是全面管轄權，兩者也不會違反《基本法》。
The Government must act in an open and transparent manner because neither partial nor full jurisdiction will contravene the Basic Law
主席，特區政府包括我本人從來都沒有閃縮，我們是正面地處理問題，因為我們知道高鐵是全球趨勢，為乘客提供更便捷、更方便、更環保的聯繫方式。
President the SAR Government including myself has never been evasive . We have been handling this issue positively for we know that high - speed rail which is a global trend provides passengers with a more efficient convenient and environmentally - friendly way to make contact
我們也知道，要令高鐵香港段發揮最大的運輸、社會和經濟效益，"一地兩檢"是一個重要的關鍵性配 套，同時也有國際上的先例或深圳灣口岸這先例可循。
We also understand that in order for the Hong Kong section of XRL to maximize its transportation social and economic benefits the co - location arrangement is a key matching facility of importance . Moreover there are also international precedents or the example of Shenzhen Bay to follow
但是，在落實具體安排方面的確有法律事宜需要處理，並且一定要做得妥善。
Having said that in finalizing the specific arrangements there are indeed legal issues to be sorted out and what is more they must be handled properly
所以，我們一定會開誠布公，向社會說明將來我們得出的整體安排、法律基礎及操作方面的細節，希望市民明白高鐵的重要性，以及我們致力為將來的"一地兩檢"提出妥善的安排。
Therefore we will certainly act in an open and transparent manner by giving an account to the community of the overall arrangement that we will come up with in future as well as the legal basis and the operational details in the hope that the public will appreciate the importance of XRL and the proper arrangements we endeavour to put forward for the co - location arrangement in future
主席，現時全港的自來水供應系統已覆蓋約99.9%的人口，未有自來水供應的地方主要是一些偏遠及人口稀少的鄉村。
President at present the treated water supply networks cover about 99.9 % of the population of Hong Kong . The areas that do not have treated water supply are mainly remote villages with sparse population
這些鄉村雖然沒有自來水供應，但都設有溪水或井水的供應系統以提供生活用水。
While these villages do not have treated water supply they have access to systems that supply stream or well water for domestic consumption
這些供水系統已沿用多年，大部分由民政事務總署負責維修保養。
These supply systems have been in use for many years . Most of them are under the maintenance of the Home Affairs Department HAD
此外，食物環境衞生署亦會定期監察這些村落的溪水或井水及化驗其水質，確定是否適宜飲用。
The Food and Environmental Hygiene Department FEHD also regularly monitors and tests the stream or well water quality of these villages to ascertain their suitability for potable consumption
倘若有關水源在某些情況下枯竭或不足，政府會提供協助，包括運送食水，解決村民用水需要。
In the event of water depletion at source the Government will provide assistance including transporting potable water to meet the needs of villagers
其實早於1980年，水務署在其他政府部門及鄉議局的協助下，為全港約700多條鄉村進行研究改善供水工程。
With the assistance of other departments and the Heung Yee Kuk the Water Supplies Department WSD has been conducting studies on ways to improve water supply for over 700 villages around the territories since 1980
經過30多年的努力，直到2016年年底，水務署已為724條鄉村提供自來水供應。
After more than 30 years of hard work WSD has managed to provide treated water supply for a total of 724 villages by the end of 2016
事實上，就偏遠鄉村供水的成本效益，政府亦於2003年向當時的立法會規劃地政及工程事務委員會提交資料文件，建議未具成本效益的偏遠鄉村自來水供應計劃待時機較為理想，例如毗鄰地區的發展令供應食水計劃更符合成本效益，或出現其他值得研究的因素時，才再作重新考慮。
The Government submitted an information paper on the cost - effectiveness of supplying treated water to remote villages to the then Panel on Planning Lands and Works of the Legislative Council in 2003 . It proposed that for those remote villages where treated water supply schemes were still not cost - effective the schemes should be reconsidered at a more opportune time when nearby developments rendered the provision of treated water supply more cost - effective or when other factors that warranted further study emerged
基於上述原則，我們一直有留意這些偏遠鄉村供水的情況及毗鄰地區的發展，過去10多年亦已先後為23條偏遠鄉村完成自來水供應系統。
In accordance with the above mentioned principles we have been monitoring the water supply situation of these remote villages and their nearby developments . Treated water supply systems had been completed for 23 remote villages over the past 10 years
我們會繼續密切留意相關情況及定期作出檢討。
We will continue to closely monitor and regularly review the situation
倘若政府日後決定為餘下的偏遠鄉村提供自來水供應，我們會按現行程序申請撥款，進行自來水供應系統工程。
Should the Government decide to provide treated water supply to the remaining remote villages in future we will submit funding applications for implementing treated water supply systems in accordance with the established procedures
就周浩鼎議員的質詢，發展局在徵詢民政署及食環署後，現答覆如下： 一 現時，18個區議會當中，只剩下6個區議會內共19條鄉村沒有自來水供應，這些鄉村及每條鄉村的估計人口列於附表一。
Having consulted HAD and FEHD the reply of the Development Bureau to Mr Holden CHOWs question is as follows 1 Of the 18 District Councils DCs there remain 19 villages in six DCs that do not have treated water supply . These villages and their respective estimated population are listed in Annex 1
當中伸延現有供水網絡至大埔元墩下的供水工程已經動工，預計於2017年年底完成。
Amongst them the works for supplying treated water to Yuen Tun Ha Tai Po has commenced and is scheduled for completion by the end of 2017
屆時，仍未獲自來水供應的鄉村會減少至18條。
By then the number of villages that do not have treated water supply will be further reduced to 18
該18條鄉村人口稀少，並且遠離市區及現有的自來水供水網絡。
These 18 villages have sparse population and are far away from both urban areas and existing treated water supply networks
如要為這些偏遠鄉村建造自來水供應系統提供自來水供應，人均建設成本十分高昂。
The per capita capital cost for the construction of treated water supply systems for these villages is very high
相關供水系統也可能出現總用水量偏低的情況，導致食水在水管內長期停留不動而令水質容易變質。
Moreover low total water consumption may lead to stagnant water in water mains hence resulting in the deterioration of water quality
二 過去3年，政府為偏遠鄉村臨時運送食水共14次，所涉及的金額約24萬元。
2 The Government transported on an ad hoc basis potable water to remote villages for a total of 14 times and at a cost of around 240,000 in the past three years
按鄉村分布及其分項數字列於附表二。
A breakdown of the details by villages is at Annex 2
三 至於位處大嶼山南面海邊的大浪村，現時的生活用水來自一個溪水的供應系統，此系統由離島民政事務處負責保養。
3 The existing domestic water supply at Tai Long Village located at the southern coast of Lantau is through a stream water supply system maintained by the Islands District Office
由於大浪村與附近的政府供水系統有高山阻隔，若要伸延自來水供應系統至大浪村，我們需要建造泵房、高地配水缸、長距離的水管及相關測漏和監控設施等。
To extend the treated water supply system to Tai Long Village which is separated from the government water supply system by a high mountain it will require to build a pump house a high level water tank long water mains associated leak detection and monitoring facilities etc
鑒於大浪村常住人口稀少，若要伸延自來水供應系統至大浪村，涉及的人均建設成本十分高昂。
Given its sparse resident population the per capita construction cost for extending the treated water system to the village is very high
同時，我們亦要考慮低總用水量會導致食水在配水缸和水管內長期停留不動而令水質容易變壞。
We also need to consider whether the low water consumption will lead to stagnant water in the water tank and water mains hence resulting in the deterioration of water quality
我們會繼續密切留意大浪村相關情況及定期作出有關檢討。
We will continue to closely monitor and regularly review the situation of Tai Long Village
澄碧邨並不是偏遠鄉村。
Sea Ranch is not a remote village
澄碧邨居民日常生活用水須由澄碧邨管理公司提供。
Its management company is responsible for providing domestic water supply to its residents
主席，這是我的簡單陳辭。
President this is my brief response
主席，年復一年，由區議會層面到立法會層面，這麼多年來，我只是聽到政府的同一個答覆，便是不處理，令人相當失望。
President year after year from the level of DCs to that of the Legislative Council for so many years I have only received the same reply from the Government which is no handling . It is very disappointing
根據當局提供的附件一，大浪村和稔樹灣村的人口分別是30人和150人，我相信數字有可能被低估。
According to Annex I provided by the authorities the population figures of Tai Long Village and Nim Shue Wan Village are respectively 30 and 150 which I believed to be underestimated probably
多謝周議員提出的跟進質詢。
I thank Mr CHOW for his supplementary question
正如我所說，我們一直密切留意這些偏遠鄉村的食水供應情況。
As I have mentioned we have all along been closely monitoring the supply of potable water in these remote villages
但大家要明白，以稔樹灣村為例，稔樹灣村的位置相當遠離現有的供水系統，如要在該位置建造自來水供應系統，我們需要架設一個200多米高的水缸，鋪設的水管也長達6公里，並且需要配以監控措施，所以，現時人均成本相當高昂。
But Members need to understand that taking Nim Shue Wan Village as an example it is considerably far away from existing water supply systems . To build a treated water supply system at that location we will need to erect a 200 - odd metre tall water tank and lay over 6 km of water mains . And it will need to be complemented with monitoring facilities resulting in a very high per capita construction cost
所以，我們會密切監察情況，但現時並無實質計劃將供水系統伸延至稔樹灣村和大浪村。
Therefore we will closely monitor the situation . But at present we have no concrete plan to extend the water supply system to Nim Shue Wan Village and Tai Long Village
主席，局長的答覆令人相當遺憾，香港工會聯合會多年來一直關注這些"無水村"的問題。
President I find the Secretarys reply most regrettable . The issue of these no water villages has been a concern to the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU over the years
當年前立法會議員葉偉明甚至帶同工會工友前往這些鄉村幫忙鋪設水管，這些工作政府不做，卻要工會工友來做。
Back then Mr IP Wai - ming a former Legislative Council Member even had to bring fellow workers from the trade unions to those villages and helped lay water mains . The Government did not do such works but left them to workers from the trade unions
主席，首先，我們關注每一名香港人飲用食水的安全和潔淨程度，我絕對要在此表示我們對此是極度關注的。
President first of all the safety and cleanliness of potable water for every person in Hong Kong are our concern . I must express here that we are hugely concerned about this
其實，一些遠離政府自來水供應系統的鄉村一直也設有供水系統，例如井水和溪水供應系統。
In fact some villages that are far away from treated water supply networks of the Government have access to water supply systems such as those supplying stream or well water
這些鄉村供水系統很多也由民政署的同事負責保養和維修。
Most of these village water supply systems are maintained and repaired by HAD
主席，這個問題我們在立法會已經跟進多年，每次得到的答覆也差不多。
President we have been following up this question in the Legislative Council for many years . Every time we received similar replies
為香港市民提供清潔的食水和自來水供應，應該是政府的責任，每一名市民應該也享有這個權利，所以對政府以經濟效益來衡量應否提供自來水供應，我很反感，也很不認同。
The Government should be duty - bound to provide clean potable water and treated water supply to Hong Kong citizens . Every citizen should have such a right . Therefore I find it repulsive and very much disapprove of the Government determining whether or not to provide treated water supply on the basis of economic benefits
主席，局長剛才常說那些鄉村很偏遠，但其實有些鄉村真的並不偏遠，例如梅子林村其實是在馬鞍山，離市區很近，也是很多市民平時郊遊遠足會經過的鄉村。
President the Secretary has just mentioned that these villages are very remote . But indeed some of them are not remote such as Mui Tsz Lam Village which is in Ma On Shan close to urban areas and also a usual passing spot for many people on hikes
去年7月，我帶同上任發展局局長親自到該村，看到居民飲用局長剛才說的儲水池內的水，那些水其實帶暗黃色，而且浸泡了樹葉。
In July last year I brought the previous Secretary for Development to the village and saw residents consuming water from the storage pool that the Secretary has just mentioned; the water was yellowish - brown in colour and full of leaves
當時，水務署同事回答我說正為該村的供水工程進行研究，包括展開地形測量及土地勘測，以便作進一步的可行性及財務評估。
At the time colleagues from WSD told me in response that they were conducting a study on water supply works in the village by among others launching a topographic survey and ground investigation for further feasibility and financial assessments
我想問，事隔差不多1年，究竟評估的結果為何？
May I ask after almost one year what the results of the assessments are?
何時才會為梅子林村居民提供食水供應？
When will the Government provide potable water supply to the residents of Mui Tsz Lam Village?
當我們的研究有成果時，便會向有關持份者，包括相關部門和團體進行諮詢。
When the results of our study are available we will consult the relevant stakeholders including relevant departments and groups
主席，有很多工作其實是要按部就班進行的，我們的同事繼續積極跟進中。
President indeed a lot of work has to be done step by step . Our colleagues are actively following it up
主席，局長剛才說民政署的同事會為村民搬水。
President the Secretary said just now colleagues from HAD will help villagers transport water
但我和我的同事鄧家彪議員到過蒲台島和東坪洲觀察這些鄉村的供水問題。
But my colleague Mr TANG Ka - piu and I once visited Po Toi Island and Tung Ping Chau to inspect the water supply issue there
我們看到，當水運到這些鄉村的碼頭後，村民仍要自行搬運，而載水的水桶經過日曬雨淋已長滿青苔。
We saw that after water was shipped to the piers of these villages villagers still had to carry the water themselves . And the water buckets were fully covered in moss after being exposed to the elements
究竟局方有否計劃為這18條村的村民盡快解決食水問題？
Does the Bureau have any plan to solve the problem of potable water for the residents of these 18 villages as soon as possible?
主席，我有少許補充。
President perhaps I can add a brief point
以蒲台島為例，雖然現時沒有自來水供應系統，但該島設有兩組天然水的供應系統，總儲水量達到127,000公升。
Taking Po Toi Island as an example currently there is no treated water supply system there but the island is equipped with two natural water supply systems with a total storage of 127 000 litres
此外，食環署的同事一直有定期監察島上儲水系統內天然水的水質。
In addition colleagues from FEHD have been regularly monitoring the quality of natural water in the storage system on the island
根據食環署的紀錄，過去抽取的水樣本經過細菌、化學及適合作飲用的測試，結果均屬滿意。
According to the FEHD records samples of water taken in the past have undergone bacterial chemical and consumption suitability tests and the results have been satisfactory
主席，局方的答覆真的很令人失望，每次都說經濟效益，但飲用清潔的食水的確是每個人應該享有的權利。
President the Secretarys reply is very disappointing . In each reply he mentions cost - effectiveness . But truly every person should have a right to access clean potable water
我聽到局長說可能一些舊方法做不到，但已經很多年了，有否研究過一些新方法，可以處理這18條村沒有食水供應的問題？
I heard the Secretary say that some old methods may not be feasible . But it has been so many years . Has the Bureau studied some new methods to address the problem of no potable water supply in these 18 villages?
主席，水務署的同事一直不停跟進現時科技上的發展，特別是不同類型的供水安排，例如減省水缸，令食水供應可以更為直接，從而減少食水停留在水管的時間。
President colleagues from WSD have been paying attention to developments in technology especially various types of water supply arrangements such as doing away with water tanks to supply potable water more directly and thus reduce the time potable water sits in water mains
我們也會密切留意其他科技上的發展，當有新科技可以讓我們在更具經濟效益的基礎上提供食水供應，我們會積極研究。
We will also pay close attention to other developments in technology . We will actively study any new technology that allows us to provide potable water supply in a more cost - effective manner
我們的同事也會密切監察現時科技的發展。
Our colleagues will also closely monitor the current developments in technology
主席，我想從另一個角度提出補充質詢，談一談經濟效益。
President I wish to ask a supplementary question from another perspective to discuss cost - effectiveness
香港現時最缺乏的是土地，其實很多村民都跟我說，如果他們的鄉村有食水供應，他們很樂意搬回鄉村居住，這是雞和雞蛋的問題。
Land is the most lacking in Hong Kong . In fact many villagers have told me that they are happy to return to the villages for settlement if there is potable water supply . It is a question of chicken or egg
如果更多人願意搬回這些鄉村，是否亦可以解決我們土地不足的問題，以達致局長剛才所說的經濟效益呢？
If more people are willing to move back to these villages is it possible to solve the problem of land shortage as well so as to achieve the cost - effectiveness suggested by the Secretary?
沒錯，工聯會對於這些"無水村"的問題非常關注。
It is true that FTU is hugely concerned about these no water villages
正如葛珮帆議員剛才說，如果鄉村有足夠的設備，以 及有水電供應，村民便可能會搬回去居住。
Just as Dr Elizabeth QUAT has said with sufficient facilities and water and electricity supply in the villages villagers may return for dwelling
主席，回看歷史，正如我剛才在主體答覆中亦提到，其實由1980年至2016年年底，我們已為724條偏遠鄉村提供自來水供應系統。
President reviewing the history just as I have pointed out in my main reply from 1980 to the end of 2016 we provided treated water supply to 724 remote villages
單在過去10多年，我們已為23條偏遠鄉村完成食水供應系統。
Just in the past 10 - odd years we have completed potable water supply systems for 23 remote villages
至於現時某些偏遠鄉村的自來水供應，其實主要由民政署負責，包括維修儲水缸及相關設施。
As regards the current supply of treated water to some remote villages it is mainly the responsibility of HAD including the maintenance and repairs of storage tanks and relevant facilities
主席，局長會否進行這項研究呢？
President will the Secretary carry out such a study?
我們是按照民政署提供的資料來估算。
We made the estimations based on the information provided by HAD
我們聽到很多人提出不少意見，在過去的二讀辯論期間亦有質疑，為何一個字或一個音符也不能改變？
We have heard many people raise a lot of views . In the earlier Second Reading debate there were also queries why not even a single word or note can be changed
有人說這是詆毀國歌。
Some people say this is vilification of the national anthem
就此，其實可以有另一種看法。
Regarding this there can actually be another perspective
我的發言稿是我的助理為我準備的，他是一個熱愛音樂的年輕人，很想我將這篇發言稿完整地讀出，讓人了解到其實有時改變曲譜，並非出於貶意。
My script was prepared for me by my assistant . He is a young man who loves music . He wishes me to read out the whole script so that people will understand that sometimes changes are made to a score without any derogative meaning
當時正值越南戰爭的高峰，這版本的國歌被視為反戰宣言，甚至引起軒然大波。
That time happened to be the peak of the Vietnam War . This version of the national anthem was regarded as an anti - war declaration and even aroused a huge controversy
在演奏表演一個月後，他出席一個訪談節目，解釋如何創作這首重新想象的美國國歌，究竟是為了反戰、抗議還是反抗？
A month after the performance he attended an interview and explained how he created this version of the American national anthem afresh with imagination . Was it aimed at conveying an anti - war message a protest or resistance? . He said I dont know man
我想說，玩音樂的人可能也會有這種感受，如何演奏、如何即興創作，其實很多時候也沒有深思熟慮的原因，甚至只是出於一陣來如風、突如其來的感覺，就像這位結他手般，他認為很美妙，沒有刻意創作，便作出了演奏。
What I wish to say is that people who play music may have this kind of feelings too . In fact very often how they perform and improvise is not based on any well - thought - out reasons . It may be simply out of feelings which suddenly run high just like this guitarist
我們說，每個人都是獨一無二，各有專長，並非每一個人也有能力以政權批准或認可的方式，不論是文字或演講也好，來表達個人的內心想法；甚至是對一些事物的感覺 或私人感受，也只能以藝術或音樂來表達，如果問他們為何這樣表達，可能亦解釋不到。
We say that people are unique in that they have their own talents . Not all people are able to express their inner thoughts in writing or in speeches in the way approved or recognized by the political regime . Even their impressions of things or personal feelings can only be expressed through art or music
所以，並非如政府所言，如對政權有任何不滿，可以用其他方式表達。
If they are asked why they express themselves in such a way they may be unable to explain it . Therefore it is not as stated by the Government that any discontent with the political regime can be expressed in other ways
有些事真的不能被取代，正如他當時不斷回答，他真的不知道有甚麼意思。
There are things which really cannot be replaced . As in his case he kept replying at that time that he really had no idea what it meant
很多時候，可能某一句歌詞或某一首歌，是創作人喝醉後，半夜隨手寫在薄餅盒上的。
On many occasions a certain line of lyrics or a certain song might be written casually on a pizza box at midnight after the creator got drunk
大家要明白，如果提供了標準答案，大家便會停止解讀、停止探索、停止想象、停止思考。我想說的是，很多即興或臨時改變曲譜的行為並無貶意，只是將情感表達出來。
We have got to understand that if standard answers are provided we will stop analysing stop exploring stop imagining and stop thinking
主席，我發言反對4位議員提出的共21項修正案。
Chairman I speak in opposition to all the 21 amendments proposed by four Members
在有關修正案的辯論中，我的發言會盡量簡短，但亦會涉及法案的整體優劣。
In the debate on the amendments I will keep my speech as concise as possible but I will also touch on the general merits of the bill
主席，弁言已經清楚交代《條例草案》的整體目標，清楚說明國歌代表中華人民共和國，國歌與國旗、國徽一樣，不容侵犯。
Chairman the Preamble already clearly states the overall objective of the Bill and clearly explains that the national anthem represents the Peoples Republic of China; and the national anthem is inviolable as are the national flag and the national emblem
此外，4位提出修正案的議員不謀而合或合謀問及，如何衡量一個人是否尊重國歌，以及為何要立法尊重國歌。
In addition the four Members who are amendment proposers have asked coincidentally or concertedly how to assess whether one respects the national anthem and why legislation must be enacted on respecting the national anthem
這並不涉及是否愛國的問題，也不存在是否打從心底尊重的問題，希望大家要分清楚。
This has nothing to do with whether one is patriotic or whether his respect really comes from his heart . I hope Members can clearly see the difference
當然，"攬炒派"的議員又指出，尊重最重要是講心，嚇人沒有用。
Certainly Members from the mutual destruction camp have further said that when it comes to respect it is sincerity which matters most and there is no use scaring people
沒錯，心底所想沒人知道，但《條例草案》清楚指出，侮辱國歌指的是篡改歌詞、篡改曲譜或做出不敬行為，例如在指定場合奏唱國歌時，沒有做出尊敬國歌的行為，例如肅立等。
Correct no one knows what you think deep in your heart but the Bill clearly provides that insulting the national anthem refers to altering its lyrics or score or behaving in a disrespectful way . For example when the national anthem is played or sung on a designated occasion one fails to behave in a way respectful to the national anthem such as standing solemnly
其實，我們為何要進行本地立法呢？
In fact why must we enact a piece of local legislation?
這便是香港的現實情況。
This is the actual situation of Hong Kong
主席，我剛才聽到"攬炒派"議員表示，其修正案建議取消罰則。
Chairman I have just heard a Member from the mutual destruction camp saying that his amendment proposes to delete the penalties
但是，問題是如果沒有罰則，這便不是一項法例，會變成"無牙老虎"，變成指引。
However the problem is that if there are no penalties it cannot be a law . It will become a toothless tiger or a set of guidelines
如果法例沒有了罰則，便難以在全港實施。
If the law is stripped of its penalties it can hardly be implemented in Hong Kong
此外，如果沒有罰則便慘了，會出現代罪羔羊的問題。
In addition the lack of penalties will lead to serious consequences and one may become a scapegoat
主席，如果"噓"國歌的人不接受懲 罰，而要由足總承受，足總還有多少錢被罰呢？
Chairman if those who boo the national anthem are not penalized but HKFA is instead held liable how much more money does HKFA have to spend on the fine?
在香港推廣足球已經很艱難，還要被罰這些無謂錢，變相剝削球員本身的權益和薪酬待遇。
As it is already very difficult to promote football in Hong Kong the rights interests and remunerations of football players will be virtually jeopardized if HKFA is fined for pointless reasons
此外，主席，我不得不提有美式足球球員在播放美國國歌時，沒有肅立，單膝下跪，同樣被美國總統特朗普嚴厲批評，並大耍官威要求他停賽，如果他再不聽從，便要暫停他一整季賽事。
In fact Chairman I have to refer to the fact that President Donald TRUMP of the United States blasted a football player who refused to stand solemnly and took a knee in protest when the national anthem of the United States was played . He even flexed his bureaucratic muscles by saying that the player should be suspended for one game the first time kneeling and for the entire season after a second offense
由此可見，任何國家都重視自己的國歌。
It is thus clear that any country attaches a great deal of importance to its national anthem
當然，有些"攬炒派"議員說某些國家也沒有就國歌立法，但問題在於是否有人有侮辱國歌的意圖。
Certainly some Members from the mutual destruction camp have said that certain countries have not legislated on the national anthem . But the problem lies in whether there are people who have the intention to insult the national anthem
我相信很多國家不會發生這種事，但香港偏偏發生了。
I believe such a thing will not happen in many countries but it has indeed happened in Hong Kong