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但是，在樓價飆升的情況下，能夠做到九成按揭的400萬元以下物業僅佔整體市場不足兩成。
However with the property prices soaring high properties under 4 million that are able to get a 90 % mortgage loan accounted for less than 20 % of the whole market
為切合市場的實際需求，讓有意首次置業的人士更易獲得銀行的按揭信貸，自由黨建議政府考慮上調按揭成數的上限。
To cater for the practical needs of the market so as to allow the potential starters to obtain mortgage loan from banks more easily the Liberal Party suggested that the Government should consider adjusting upward the ceiling of loan - to - value ratio
對於租住私樓的家庭而言，租金開支值得關注。
In respect of families living in rented private premises the rent expenses are a cause for concern
在樓價高企的環境下，仍有為數不少既不符合資格申請公屋、又無力置業的中產家庭 需要租住私樓。
In the face of high property prices there are still many middle - class families which are neither qualified for applying public housing nor capable of acquiring properties
租金開支對此類中產市民而言，可謂負擔沉重。
The rent expenses can be said to be a heavy burden for this type of middle - class citizens
主席，我們今時今日再次討論興建過渡性房屋，是有點兒羞愧的，因為就好像時光倒流，回到了七八十年代。
President it is a bit embarrassing to discuss the construction of transitional housing again today because it is like turning back the clock and returning to the 1970s and 1980s
為何社會一直進步，本港的公營房屋供應卻沒有同時進步，而是有倒退的情況呢？
Our society has been advancing how come the supply of public housing in Hong Kong has not improved at the same time but regressed instead?
這是值得大家深思的。
This is worth pondering
事實上，大家都明白到問題的嚴峻程度。
In fact everyone understands the gravity of the problem
未來5年公屋及綠表置居先導計劃的供應加起來只有74,600個單位，與目標相距甚遠；而土地供應的長中短期措施，最短期的措施都要十年八載才見成效。
In the coming five years the supply of PRH and the Green Form Subsidized Home Ownership Pilot Scheme flats will add up to just 74 600 units which is far from the target . The short - term mid - term and long - term measures for land supply will take at least 8 to 10 years to become effective at the earliest
事實上，政府必須為突破3年的"上樓"目標，作出一些"補鑊"的措施。
In fact the Government must make some remedial measures to break through the target of moving into PRH in three years
主席，過渡性房屋原本是下策，但逼於無奈而要寫在施政報告之內，特首更說這是重中之重。
President transitional housing is basically an inferior policy yet the Government has no choice but put it in the Policy Address . The Chief Executive even said that this is a top priority
政府其實心中有數。
The Government actually knows the answer better than anyone
大家都看到，很多同事剛才都提到，香港推行的是高地價政策，政府靠賣地及稅收而盤滿缽滿，每年都有盈餘，但基層市民卻因為購買力追不上樓市升幅，已經無路可走。
Everyone can see that many colleagues have also mentioned that just now Hong Kong has been pursuing a high land price policy . The Government is making huge revenue from land sale proceeds and stamp duty . Every year there is a budget surplus
主席，我們亦看到香港的工業北移已有一段長時間，真的可以考慮使用空置或低用量工廈來興建過渡性房屋。
President we also see that it has been a long time since our industries moved northwards . It is indeed possible to consider using vacant or under - utilized industrial buildings to provide transitional housing
如果政府願意這樣做，未來10年很大機會可以額外提供18,000個過渡性房屋單位，而這正是政府興建公屋不足的數字的一大部分。
If the Government is willing to do so it is highly possible that an additional 18 000 transitional housing units could be made available in the next 10 years which is exactly a large percentage of the shortfall in PRH units produced by the Government
因此，我們很鼓勵政府利用工廈。
Therefore we strongly encourage the Government to make use of industrial buildings
主席，今天的原議案及各項修正案的建議在行政上不容易處理，當中涉及很多人力、物力及金錢，但這是關乎民生的一個重大問題，尤其這是政府自行製造的問題，所以政府絕不能因為怕麻煩而敷衍了事。
They involve a lot of manpower material resources and money . But this is a major issue concerning peoples livelihood especially when it is a problem that the Government has created on its own . Therefore the Government should not muddle through the work for fear of trouble
作為一個負責任的政府，更應該抱着事不避難的精神，迎難而上，在短期內覓地，提供足夠的過渡性房屋單位，並長期提供足夠的公屋單位，以解決基層市民的住屋需要。
As a responsible Government we should avoid dodging the problem and must face up to the challenge . We should identify sites to provide sufficient transitional housing units in the short term and provide sufficient PRH units in the long time in order to solve the housing needs of the grass roots
當然，護短的人會說我們在浪費時間。
Certainly people covering up their faults will say we are wasting time
但是，每次無論香港鐵路有限公司或其他承建商被揭發的問題有多大，建制派同事也只是重複地說：港鐵公司不對，承建商也不對，政府也有錯，監管不力，不過，政府已在調查，所以立法會不應浪費時間再進行調查，不應架床疊屋。
However no matter how serious a problem exposed of the MTR Corporation Limited MTRCL or other contractors Honourable colleagues from the pro - establishment camp would only repeat MTRCL is not right and neither are the contractors and the Government is at fault too for failing to enforce effective monitoring; but the Government is conducting an inquiry and so the Legislative Council should not waste more time conducting another inquiry on its own so as not to duplicate efforts
前天下午4時多，政府發出新聞公報，表示會把由政府委任並由法官擔任主席的獨立調查委員會的職權範圍擴大，恰巧與陳議員提出的議案內容很相近，但只是很相似而已。
At around 4col00 pm the day before yesterday the Government issued a press release to announce an expansion of the terms of reference of the independent Commission of Inquiry it appointed and chaired by a judge . It happened to be very similar―only similar―to the contents of the motion proposed by Ms CHAN
政府表示："就香港鐵路有限公司沙田至中環線項目合約編號1112下的北面連接隧道、南面連接隧道及紅磡列車停放處工程近期發現的違規情況，查明相關事實和建議適當的改善措施"。
The Government stated that to [] ascertain the relevant facts and recommend appropriate improvement measures relating to the irregularities that have recently surfaced in the construction of the North Approach Tunnels the South Approach Tunnels and the Hung Hom Stabling Sidings under the MTR Corporation Limiteds Contract No . 1112
現時獨立調查委員會的職權範圍得到擴大，只不過是"查明相關事實"和"建議適當的改善措施"，並不包括當中涉及的民事和刑事責任，這是市民極為關注的。
Now the terms of reference of the independent Commission of Inquiry have been expanded but only to ascertain relevant facts and recommend appropriate improvement measures excluding the civil and criminal liability involved . It is of grave concern to the people
對公眾而言，這是最好的方法向他們作出交代，其實對政府來說也是最好的方法。
To the public it is the best approach to give them an account and as far as the Government is concerned it is the best approach as well
政府找出施工問題的癥結當然重要，但難道無須調查責任誰屬？
It is certainly important that the Government identifies the root of the construction problems but does it obviate the need to investigate who should be held responsible?
他們如何向市民交代？
How do they give an account to the people?
建制派同事同樣知道問題嚴重。
Honourable colleagues from the pro - establishment camp are also aware of the severity of the problems
希望這些奇怪的事情將來不要再次發生。
I hope such strange things will not happen again
工程界的人士告訴她不會這樣，她說"有可能"是毀滅證據，但卻說不要調查。
Members of the engineering sector told her it should not be the case . She said it was possible destruction of evidence but no inquiry was to be conducted
檢查及測量申請表格是監察工程進度和質量的重要文件，須依照程序中各個步驟提出及處理，有規有矩。
RISC forms are important documents for monitoring the progress and quality of construction works and they must be submitted and handled in accordance with various steps in the procedure in an orderly manner
妥善保存RISC表格是業界的基本守則。
Proper safekeeping of RISC forms is the basic code of the industry
過往亦有很多政府及立法會同步調查的例子。
There were many past examples of the Government and the Legislative Council conducting inquiries in parallel
立法會要做好本分。
The Legislative Council should do its job properly
當然，政府屆時會以權力來淡化法例，對此我們也許無計可施，但我們一定要令市民明白整件事是多麼的不公義。
Certainly at that time the Government will dilute the laws with its powers and we may not be able to do anything about it . But we must make people realize the injustice of the entire incident
市民當然可以透過選票或公眾壓力，向政府指出不能如此行事，不能對任何事也表示無須追究責任。
People can definitely point out to the Government through votes or public pressure that it cannot act in such a manner and say that there is no need to pursue responsibility for any matter
結果就是我們將來可能要乘搭十分危險的沙中線。
The outcome will be we may have to ride on the extremely unsafe SCL
因此，主席，我一定會支持陳淑莊議員動議的議案。
Therefore President I definitely support the motion moved by Ms Tanya CHAN
主席，我想先向麥美娟議員澄清，我的修正案並沒有刪除原議案第一點中"將過渡性房屋納入《長遠房屋策略》"的措辭。
President first of all I want to clarify to Ms Alice MAK that in my amendment I have not deleted the wording in item 1 of the original motion that is to include transitional housing in the Long Term Housing Strategy
我認為，現時居於"劏房"，以及棲宿於麥當勞快餐店、網吧及街頭的基層市民的住屋問題在人道層面屬災難級別。
For grass - roots citizens living in subdivided units and those seeking refuge in McDonalds Internet cafés or the streets I think the housing problem facing them is catastrophic from a humanitarian point of view
大家試想象，當世上其他地方發生天災時，誰會負責救災呢？
Let us imagine that when a natural disaster occurs in other part of the world who will be responsible for providing aids?
如果議員同意這是災難級的問題，那麼我特別請大家支持我的修正案第五點："要求北京政府將香港的軍事用地釋放作過渡性房屋的用途"。
If Members agree that the problem is catastrophic then I would like to ask you to support my amendment item 5 in particular that is to request the Beijing Government to release the military sites in Hong Kong for transitional housing purpose
近100公頃的土地可以興建多少個過渡性房屋單位呢？
So how can these nearly 100 hectares of land translate into the number of transitional housing units?
根據現時的經驗粗略計算，1公頃土地已可興建近1,000個單位。
Based on the current experience 1 hectare of land can produce roughly 1 000 units
閒置農地，用作興建過渡性房屋"。
I will support the original motion and most of the amendments except Mr Tony TSEs amendment because in item 4 of his amendment he suggests encouraging private land owners to use their idle agricultural lands for constructing transitional housing
或許在謝偉銓議員的眼中，閒置農地純粹滋養雜草，沒有用處。
Perhaps in the eyes of Mr TSE these idle agricultural lands will only nourish weeds and are of no use
如果政府隨便推出政策，准許農地業主興建過渡性房屋，第一個結果，便是農地業主會在農地鋪上混凝土，將農地變成"死地"或所謂的"石田"，之後興建過渡性房屋。
If the Government introduces policies casually to allow agricultural land owners to build transitional housing the first result would be that concrete is being poured on these agricultural sites so that these sites would become barren for building transitional housing later
他的想法其實建基於一種"先破壞，後發展"的心態，而他們屆時便可強迫城市規劃委員會批准他們各項改劃申請。
His idea is actually based on the approach of to destroy first and build later . Then they would go through the statutory procedures to force the approval for rezonings from the Town Planning Board
我認為，我剛才提出的多個選項已絕對足以解決問題，無需動用閒置農地。
I think that with the options I have just proposed it should be undoubtedly sufficient to solve the problem . There will be no need to use idle agricultural lands
現時警方已展開調查，我相信刑事成分已相當明顯。
Given that the Police have now initiated an investigation I believe the criminal liability therein is rather obvious
至於ICAC稍後會否加入調查，我相信機會頗高，因為如此龐大的問題當然不可能由某承建商或分判商隻手遮天地一手造成。
As for whether the Independent Commission Against Corruption ICAC will take part in the investigation later on I believe the likelihood is fairly great because it was certainly impossible that a problem of such magnitude was caused by some contractor or subcontractor singlehandedly and with absolute control
我相信管理層甚至香港鐵路有限公司內部也可能有人須負上刑事責任，而短期內應會水落石出。
I believe personnel from their management and even within the MTR Corporation Limited may be held criminally liable and the truth should be revealed shortly
今天發言的議員無論支持與否，其實也有他們的道理。
Members who have spoken today have their respective reasons for supporting the motion or otherwise
大家當然要用盡所有方法調查，出動警方、ICAC、夏正民法官和立法會，也是順理成章的事。
We of course have to employ every means possible to conduct an inquiry . Accordingly as a matter of course the Police and ICAC would be deployed and Mr Michael HARTMANN and the Legislative Council would be engaged
雖然立法會還有20個月才換屆，但七除八扣，即使今天能通過成立專責委員會，到真正運作已接近6月。
Although there are 20 months or so remaining until the next term of the Legislative Council after deducting the time spent on administrative work even if a select committee is approved to be set up today it will be almost June when it can really start functioning
明年7月換屆，立法會便會解散，專責委員會亦會隨之解散。
Come July next year at the time of the general election for the next term the Legislative Council will be dissolved so will the select committee consequently
大家對香港法治有信心，亦很尊重法官。
We all have confidence in the rule of law in Hong Kong and respect for judges
屆時大家是否仍然在任，也是未知之數，故要留待下屆立法會的相關議員處理。
By then it is unknown whether Honourable colleagues will still be in office . Therefore the incident should be left to relevant Members of the next term of the Legislative Council to handle
當然，大家開始討論也是一件好事，但我很懷疑一開始討論全民退保，我們就會爭議究竟退休年齡應 該定在多少歲，應該是由60歲抑或65歲起計算？
Of course it is good to start the discussion on this matter but I am worried that when we start discussing universal retirement protection it will lead to a dispute on the age of retirement . Shall it be set at 60 or 65? . According to the existing regulations of MPF the accrued benefits can be withdrawn only when the scheme member has reached the age of 65
代理主席，聽局長這番發言，雖然他是在繞圈子，但卻也承認我們的房屋問題事實上是長期供求失衡所致，所以，現在似乎他沒有用上這字眼，但卻承認有個爛攤子。
Deputy President on hearing such words from the Secretary although he was beating about the bush he also admitted that our housing problem in fact stemmed from a long - term imbalance in supply and demand therefore now it seems that―he did not use such words but he admitted that―there existed a mess
雖然政府表示會解決房屋問題，但這種說法由董建華時代當年說的"八萬五"，到後來不存在了一直說到現在，我們都聽得耳朵起繭。
The Government said that the housing problem would be solved but such remarks had been made since the TUNG Chee - hwa era―the 85 000 mentioned then until they no longer existed―it has been said up till the present moment so we all become indifferent on hearing it
首先，我要回應謝偉銓議員。
Firstly I would like to respond to Mr Tony TSE
對於過渡房屋，我不知道政府的看法是否跟我一樣。
In respect of transitional housing I do not know whether the Government shares my view
我覺得"過渡"這個詞無需要加上"性"這個字，"過渡"便是"過渡"，，即由起點至終點之間有一點阻滯，因此需要一點"過渡"，但這種所謂"過渡"就等於"中途宿舍"，一般予人不太好的感覺，是姑且一忍、權且"袋住先"的一種情況和措施而已。
I consider it unnecessary to add 性 to the term 過渡 transitional . Transitional is transitional ie . some sort of hindrance exists between the beginning and the end and so a bit of transition is required but this so - called transitional is equal to interim hostel which is not considered something good by the general public
局長的發言內容也不斷重複，他的意思是指短期性質、短期供應，一般來說......
It is something for temporary purpose a makeshift measure pocketing it first for the time being . The Secretary repeated his words incessantly . He meant a short - term nature a short - term supply
既然是過渡，便不能超過5年，否則豈非變成"永遠過渡"，"老兄"？
Generally speaking since it is transitional it cannot exceed five years otherwise will it not be turned into permanent transitional buddy?
你是否想把"過渡房屋"名正言順地變成香港房屋正規供應的一部分呢？
Do you want to formally turn transitional housing into part of the regular housing supply for Hong Kong?
所以，即使陳帆局長只負責房屋和運輸範疇，我也希望他回去後能跟"林鄭"說一說，香港的房屋、樓價及樓市問題主要源於兩大原因。
Hence even though Secretary Frank CHAN is only responsible for the housing and transport portfolios I also hope that he could go back and tell Carrie LAM the problems in local housing property price and property market mainly stem from two major reasons
第二，當然是我們的人口政策。
Secondly it is definitely our population policy
可是，政府卻告訴大家它有相關數字，例如2018年香港有新增人口約6萬人，當中有超過4萬人是來自大陸的新移民。
Are they unaware of such a situation? . However the Government tells us that it got related figures for example Hong Kongs population increased by about 60 000 in 2018 among them over 40 000 people were new arrivals from the Mainland
鄭泳舜議員今天提出若干建議，包括"推出政策鼓勵私人業主將住宅或整幢工廈改作過渡性房屋"。
Mr Vincent CHENG has made a number of recommendations today including to introduce policies for encouraging private property owners to convert their residential properties or whole blocks of industrial buildings into transitional housing
不過，如果單單推出政策而沒有制訂其他配套措施，過渡性房屋有可能成為租金貴而面積小的另類"劏房"，更是獲得政策鼓勵的另類"劏房"。
However if the policy is simply introduced with no other supporting measures formulated transitional housing units may become an alternative form of subdivided units with high rent and small size an alternative form of subdivided units with policy support
所以，如果政府真的准許或鼓勵私人業主經營過渡性房屋，便必須制訂其他配套措施。
Therefore if the Government really allows or encourages private owners to operate transitional housing other supporting measures must be formulated
市民會問道，如果政府就過渡性房屋推行租金管制及空置稅，為何政府不就市民現時租住的其他房屋推行租金管制，甚或二手樓宇空置稅呢？
The public would ask if the Government is implementing rent control and vacancy tax on transitional housing why dont they introduce rent control on other housing units rented by the public now or even vacancy tax in the secondary market?
要有效改善居住問題，壓抑租金升幅，政府應同時增加單位供應，將私樓的租金維持在合理水平，並鼓勵更多業主出租單位。
To effectively improve the housing problem apart from suppressing rent increases the Government should augment the supply of housing flats at the same time; keep the rents of private properties at a reasonable level and encourage more owners to rent out their flats
我們經常提及的全面推行租金管制及二手樓宇空置稅，是大家必然想到的一條路線。
The full implementation of rent control and vacancy tax in the secondary market that we have always been mentioning is a direction that everyone could think of
如果政府容許私人業主經營過渡性房屋，但卻沒有實施相關規管，最終只會演變成"劏房"規範化或合理化。
If the Government allows private property owners to operate transitional housing without the implementation of related controls it will eventually evolve into endorsement or rationalization of subdivided units
我認為，政府真的應該推出措施加以限制，例如規定有真正需要的市民才可以申請公屋，甚或是我們今天討論的過渡性房屋。
In my opinion the Government should really introduce measures to impose controls . For example only members of the public who have genuine needs can apply for public housing or even the transitional housing that we are discussing today
據政府的書面答覆，"過去3年，房委會共接獲約380宗關於公屋申請者隱瞞資料的舉報，以及主動抽查了約1,800宗公屋申請個案，當中涉及隱瞞擁有香港境外物業的約有50宗"這可能包括內地或外地物業。
According to their written reply In the past three years the HA had received about 380 reports relating to PRH applicants concealment of information and had initiated random checks on about 1 800 PRH application cases . Among such cases about 50 cases involved the concealment of ownership of properties outside Hong Kong―this could cover properties in the Mainland or overseas
由此可見，隱瞞擁有境外物業的公屋申請宗數佔被抽查個案的2%。
From this we can see that the number of cases involving the concealment of ownership of properties outside Hong Kong accounts for 2 % of the cases checked
政府是否無力加強監察申請人是否真正符合資格申請公屋甚或現時議員提議興建的過渡性房屋呢？
Is the Government unable to step up screening whether an applicant is truly eligible for PRH or even the transitional housing proposed now?
如果政府真的無力監察，即使多興建數千個單位亦沒有用。
If the Government is really unable to do so even construction of thousands of flats will be useless
我認為，在動用公帑興建過渡性房屋前，政府必須制訂機制，確保申請人在入住公帑資助的過渡性房屋時如實申報境外物業。
I think before using public funds to build transitional housing units the Government must put in place a mechanism to ensure that an applicant is making a factual declaration on the ownership of properties outside Hong Kong when heshe is admitted to publicly - funded transitional housing units
政府亦應規定，如申請人在境外所持有的物業價值超出某個水平，他們便不得入住過渡性房屋，以確保有關單位供有真正需要的輪候人士入住。
The Government should also stipulate that if the value of the property held by the applicant outside Hong Kong exceeds a certain level heshe will not be admitted to the transitional housing unit in order to ensure that the unit is made available to those who have genuine needs
當然，還有一個更根本的問題。
Of course there is a more fundamental problem
凡關乎房屋及土地問題的討論，皆離不開人口政策。
Any discussion on housing and land issues is inseparable from the population policy
我剛才已指出，即使全盤落實議員的建議，過渡性房屋的單位數目亦相當有限。
As I pointed out earlier even if Members proposals are fully implemented the number of transitional housing units is quite limited
現時，每天有150名內地人持單程證來港，一年便有數萬人，當中必然包含有需要輪候公屋的人士。
Their number would add up to tens of thousands in a year . Amongst them there must be some who need to apply for public housing
過渡性房屋要發揮效用，讓輪候已久的本地市民得益，政府便必須修訂人口政策，並收回單程證審批權，由香港政府審視每宗移居香港個案的申請是否真的符合資格，並必須顧及本港的承載力，才予以批准。
If the transitional housing scheme is to be effective and beneficial to the local people whose housing need is long overdue the Government must revise the population policy and get back the right of vetting and approving OWPs . The Hong Kong Government will examine whether each application for immigration to Hong Kong is indeed eligible and taking into account the societys capacity to bear before approval is granted
房屋問題關乎供應，亦關乎需求。
Housing issues are about supply as well as demand
政府必須多管齊下，才能夠解決我應該用"改善"一詞而非"解決"改善香港現時輪候公屋的嚴峻情況。
The Government must adopt a multi - pronged approach to resolve―I should use the word improve instead of resolve―to improve the serious situation of endless waiting for public housing in Hong Kong
主席，首先，我感謝鄭泳舜議員今天提出這項議案辯論，讓我們可以向政府更強烈地表達對現時房屋供應不足的不滿。
President first of all I am grateful to Mr Vincent CHENG for moving this motion today so that we can express to the Government our great dissatisfaction about the current shortage of housing supply in Hong Kong
我很支持政府和非政府機構提供更多過渡性房屋，亦明白鄭議員提出把過渡性房屋納入《長遠房屋策略》，從而增加這類房屋供應，但對於這種做法，我不能同意。
I support the Government and NGOs to provide more transitional housing . I also understand that Mr CHENG has proposed to include transitional housing in the Long Term Housing Strategy LTHS to increase the supply of transitional housing . But I cannot agree with this approach
我希望各位同事想一想，把過渡性房屋納入《長策》從而增加供應，是否一個合適做法呢？
I hope my colleagues will think about whether including transitional housing in LTHS to increase supply is an appropriate approach
但是，我剛才說過，我不想有"黑房"的情況出現。
Nonetheless as I said earlier I do not want to have dark rooms
那麼，可以怎樣做呢？
So what can we do?
可以考慮將"內陸"樓面鑿穿，當然前提是該建築物的規格和結構容許這樣做。
We may consider drilling through the landlocked areas as long as the specifications and structure of the building allow doing so
另外，我的修正案措辭加入"分析所有空置政府土地的規劃用途地帶、用地實際情況包括地形和地勢、各種技術限制或所需基建配套等因素並整合相關資料後"，供NGO申請。
In addition I added to my amendment the wording of after analysing the land use zonings in all vacant government lands and their actual site conditions including topography technical constraints or infrastructural facilities required and consolidating the relevant information they will be available for application by NGOs
主席，就沙田至中環線的事件，我們過往曾多次在立法會要求成立調查委員會，但多次遭大部分建制派議員反對，即使不是表決反對，他們要不就缺席，要不就棄權。
President we have made multiple requests in the past for the forming of a select committee by the Legislative Council to inquire into the incidents concerning the Shatin to Central Link SCL . Yet these efforts were thwarted by the majority of the pro - establishment Members with their absence or abstentions if not outright opposition at the votes
當時，房委會成立了一個由滙豐銀行前主席施德論為首的獨立調查委員會調查有關事件，其後一併委任時任知識產權署署長領導的調查小組。
At the time HA first established an investigation panel under the chairmanship of Mr John E STRICKLAND the former Chairman of The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited HSBC to probe into the incident and then appointed a special panel led by the then Director of Intellectual Property
特首已要求局長出來交代事件，而鐵路事宜小組委員會也特別增加一個議程項目，商討紅磡站RISC forms遺失一事。我不能相信或想象署長竟然回答"不知道"準確來說是"不記得"。
Given that the Chief Executive had requested the Secretary to give a public account and the Subcommittee on Matters Relating to Railways had placed on its agenda an extraordinary item for a discussion on the missing RISC forms concerning Hung Hom Station I can hardly believe or imagine that the Director would actually reply that he did not know―or could not recall to be precise
究竟2016年當天有哪位同事或哪一職級的人員知道整件事情，但兩年以來也沒有跟進？
Which staff member or which level of officer had been informed of the whole affair on that day in 2016 but had not followed up for two years?
這點政府從來沒有交代。
The Government has never given an account on that
當局有否想過在地盤工作的工人的生命安全呢？
Have the relevant authorities ever considered the personal safety of the workers working on the construction sites?
代理主席，在發言之前，我想回應譚文豪議員剛才提出的問題。
Deputy President before I speak I wish to respond to the issue raised by Mr Jeremy TAM
他的修正案刪除了過渡性房屋的目標，不知道譚議員是否需要進一步了解一下過渡性房屋的定義。
His amendment removed the target of transitional housing I wonder if it is necessary for Mr TAM to further understand the definition of transitional housing
代理主席，其實我個人認為今天這項原議案非常有意思，因為現在很多市民的居住環境每況愈下。
Deputy President actually I consider the original motion today very meaningful because the living environment of many people now is deteriorating
在樓價高企的情況下，市民根本無法負擔高昂的租金。
With property price remaining high people are unable to afford the exorbitant rents
先不說置業，他們連基本的居住空間也沒有。
They are even deprived of the basic living space let alone buying property
市場上的發展商很聰明，透過自己的方法作調節，興建單位的面積越來越小，貨櫃屋、"劏房"、納米房及"棺材房"便應運而生。
The developers in the market are very clever through adjustment in their own way the area of flats they built are becoming smaller and smaller container flats subdivided units nano rooms and coffin cubicles emerged as a result