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政府當局進一步表示，建造業議會在適當時候可發出指引，以加深業界對新工種分項所涉技能的了解。
The Administration has further advised that where appropriate the Construction Industry Council CIC may issue guidelines to facilitate the understanding of the skills involved in the new trade divisions by the industry
至於《建造業工人註冊規例》中的豁免條文，政府當局表示，在上述兩項附屬法例生效後，當局會不時檢討相關的實施情況，在適當時會建議修訂上述兩項附屬法例。
As for the exemption provisions in the Construction Workers Registration Exemption Regulation the Administration has advised that it will from time to time review the implementation of the two items of subsidiary legislation after commencement and where appropriate propose amendments to them
有委員關注法例就價值低的建造工作遵守"專工專責"規定所列明的豁免限額。
A Member was concerned about the threshold for exempting small value construction work from the DWDS requirement
就此，政府當局表示，如果需要檢討該限額，當局將以建造業議會作為諮詢業界持份者的主要平台。
In this regard the Administration has advised that CIC will be the main platform for consulting industry stakeholders if the threshold needs to be reviewed
有委員建議，政府當局應該在相關法例訂明，在上述兩項附屬法例生效後，就新法例規定的實施情況進行檢討的時間表，以審視業界適應有關規定的進展，以及探討是否有進一步的改善空間。
A Member has suggested that the Administration should stipulate in the relevant legislation a timetable for conducting a review of the implementation of the new legislative requirements after the commencement of the two items of subsidiary legislation in order to examine the progress of adaptation to the requirements by the industry and to explore room for further improvement
政府當局表示，當局已經採取循序漸進的方式實施禁止條文的規定，包括"專工專責"規定，以便業界逐步適應有關轉變。
The Administration has advised that it has adopted a phase - by - phase approach to implementing the prohibitions including the DWDS requirement to facilitate gradual adaptation to the changes by the industry
在擬議附屬法例生效後，政府當局會聯同建造業議會不時檢討新規定的實施情況，以及聽取相關業界持份者的意見，以計劃未來的路向。
After the commencement of the proposed items of subsidiary legislation the Administration in collaboration with CIC will from time to time review the implementation of the new requirements and obtain feedback from relevant industry stakeholders with a view to planning the way forward
因此，政府當局認為無須在附屬法例訂明檢討時間表。
As such the Administration does not consider it necessary to specify a review timetable in the subsidiary legislation
小組委員會對於該兩項附屬法例並無異議，因此不會提出任何修訂。
The Subcommittees does not raise any objection to the two items of subsidiary legislation and therefore has not proposed any amendment
代理主席，以下是我個人對於上述兩項附屬法例的意見。
Deputy President next I shall present my personal opinions on the two items of subsidiary legislation
代理主席，在座很多同事也並非上述小組委員會的委員，有些同事在本屆才開始參與議會工作。
Deputy President many Honourable colleagues here are not members of the Subcommittee and some took part in the work of this Council only from this term
所以，我認為有需要扼要回顧相關主體法例及其修訂情況，讓大家可以了解上述兩項附屬法例的來龍去脈。
Therefore I believe it is necessary to briefly review the principal legislation and its amendments so that Members can gain some knowledge of background of the two items of subsidiary legislation
有關註冊制度在2005年12月29日生效，為了讓持份者逐步適應，其規管條文分階段實施，第一階段的禁止條文由2007年9月起實施，禁止沒有註冊的建造業工人在建造工地工作。
The registration system came into effect on 29 December 2005 . In order to allow stakeholders to effect adaptation gradually its regulatory provisions are implemented in phases . In September 2007 the first phase of the prohibitions was implemented which prohibits construction workers from carrying out construction work on construction sites without proper registration
隨後，當局進一步優化註冊安排，在2013年1月1日，在建造業議會轄下成立建造業工人註冊委員會，負責管理註冊制度。
Subsequently the Administration further optimized the registration arrangements and on 1 January 2013 established the Construction Workers Registration Board under CIC to take charge of the management of the registration system
為實施餘下階段的禁止條文，政府當局在2014年4月把《2014年建造業工人註冊條例草案》提交立法會審議。
In order to implement the remaining phases of the prohibitions the Administration tabled the Construction Workers Registration Amendment Bill 2014 the Bill before this Council in April 2014
該《條例草案》旨在把註冊準則由工種改為更為精細的工種分項，並且為資深建造業工人的註冊作出安排，以及分期實施建造業"專工專責"的條文，訂明工人除非已就相關工種分項進行註冊，或在一名相關工種分項註冊技工的指示及督導下進行工作，否則會被禁止進行涉及指定工種分項所需技能的建造工作，並且預先訂明"專工專責"條文的生效日期為法例生效後兩年。
The Bill sought to change the registration basis from trade to the more detailed trade division make arrangements for registration of veteran workers and implement in phases the DWDS requirement in the construction sector . It forbids workers from carrying out construction work involving skills required by designated trade divisions unless they are registered for the relevant trade divisions or under the instruction and supervision of a relevant trade division - registered worker . It also stipulates that the DWDS requirement will come into force two years after the commencement of the legislation
本會在上屆就《條例草案》成立了法案委員會進行審議，並由我擔任主席。
A Bills Committee chaired by me was established in the last term of this Council for scrutiny of the Bill
該《條例草案》在2014年12月18日於本會大會恢復二讀辯論，並獲大會通過成為法例，並且由2015年4月1日起生效。
The Bill the Second Reading debate of which was resumed on 18 December 2014 was passed into law and took effect on 1 April 2015
因此，作為第二階段禁止條文的"專工專責"規定，將會在今年4月1日生效。
Hence the DWDS requirement will come into force on 1 April this year
同時，該《條例草案》在《條例》中加入第63A條，授權發展局局長制定規例，以豁免指明建造工作及人士受"專工專責"條文規管，以及按需要增設新的工種分項。
Meanwhile the Bill added section 63A to CWRO empowering the Secretary for Development to make a regulation to exempt specified construction work and persons from the DWDS requirement as well as create new trade divisions as necessary
在這背景下，經過與業界持份者詳細 商議並取得共識，政府當局在2016年12月9日把《豁免規例》及《修訂公告》這兩項附屬法例刊登憲報，並在同年12月14日提交立法會，以進行"先訂立，後審議"的程序。
Against this background after thorough consultation with industry stakeholders and forging a consensus with the industry the Administration gazetted the Exemption Regulation and the Amendment Notice on 9 December 2016 and tabled them before this Council at the meeting of 14 December for negative vetting
以上兩種豁免只適用於涉及《豁免規例》附表1所載的47個指定工種分項的技能工作。
These two exemptions are limited to the ones involving the skills of the 47 designated trades set out in Schedule 1 of the Exemption Regulation
代理主席，上述兩項附屬法例有助於《條例》下"專工專責"規定的順利實施，這些表面看來只是技術層面的法例修訂，其實對於提升建造業的整體質素、提升職業安全健康水平，以及促進業界的可持續發展均大有裨益。
Deputy President these two items of subsidiary legislation will facilitate the smooth implementation of the DWDS requirement under CWRO . These seemingly technical amendments are in fact enormously beneficial to enhancing the overall quality of the construction industry improving occupational safety and health and promoting sustainable development of the industry
根據建造業議會的統計資料，截至去年12月31日，有效註冊建造業工人人數達到425,408人，但令業界人士憂慮的是，建造業正面臨青黃不接的困境，從業者有一半平均年齡已經達到50歲以上，不同工種也出現供求失衡的情況。
According to CICs statistics as of 31 December 2016 the number of Valid Registered Construction Workers numbered at 425 408 . However the sector is concerned about the succession problem in the industry as the average age of half of the practitioners are over 50 . An imbalance between supply and demand also appears in different trades
由於業內工人老化及技術工人不足，加上工業安全和環境管理的要求提升，本港建造工程的人力效率下跌，同一個項目，現時需要的人手較10年前增加六成至接近1倍，人力供應更為缺乏。
As a result of ageing labour and shortage of skilled workers in the sector together with the rising requirements on industrial safety and environmental management labour efficiency of construction projects has decreased . The labour required for the same project is 60 % to one time more than that of 10 years ago worsening the shortage of labour supply
長遠而言，業界需要創新技術以提升生產力，也需要培養一支人手充足的專業技術工人隊伍。
In the long run the industry needs innovative technology to enhance productivity as well as develop a team of professional skilled workers with sufficient manpower
據現行的建造業工人註冊制度，建造業 工人在通過相關技能測試之後，按其單元技能在指定工種分項註冊，成為熟練技工，以配合"專工專責"制度的推行。
Under the existing construction workers registration system construction workers can be registered as skilled workers in the designated trade divisions according to their respective modular skills after passing relevant trade tests to cope with the implementation of DWDS
尤其值得注意的是，全科工種分項的設立，可以讓已經取得一個組別內各個相關技能註冊的工人，成為該組別的全科技工，以鼓勵工人發展多元技能。
It should be noted in particular that the creation of trade division master allows workers possessing registrations for a group of trade divisions to register as master skilled worker of that particular group so as to encourage multi - skill development of workers
對於那些願意投身本身行業作長遠發展的技術工人而言，無疑提供了良好的技能發展階梯，令個人的專業前景更為清晰，有助於挽留技術人才和吸引新人入行。
For skilled workers who are prepared to seek development in the industry long term this doubtless provides a ladder for skill enhancement and clearer professional prospects which helps retain skilled talents and attract new blood to join the industry
政府當局一方面透過相關法例的修訂，為建造業界訂立明確目標，讓業界作好準備，另一方面，又分階段實施有關的禁止規定，使持份者得以逐步適應。
The Administration set a clear objective for the construction sector by way of amendments to the relevant legislation on the one hand so that the industry can be well - prepared and implemented the relevant prohibitions in a phased manner on the other so that stakeholders can adapt gradually
此外，關於"專工專責"規定，豁免條文的訂立和工種分項的指定和增加等，也是政府當局和不同持份者，包括工會、商會和建造業議會等業界專業團體反覆商議、尋求共識、形成修訂條文。
In addition the Exemption Regulation as well as the designation and addition of trade divisions under the DWDS requirement are the outcome of repeated discussions between the Administration and different stakeholders including professional bodies in the sector such as trade unions trade associations and CIC the consensus reached and the amendments thus formulated
上述兩項附屬法例的順利推出，也反映出《條例》所訂立的現行機制有效運作。
The smooth introduction of the two items of subsidiary legislation also shows the effective operation of the existing mechanism established by CWRO
這些成果無疑為類似的行業規管條例修訂以至其他政府修訂法案的落實，提供了一個值得參考的範例。
These results definitely provide worthy reference for amendments to trade regulation legislation of similar nature and the implementation of other amendment bills by the Government
值得肯定的是，建造業議會自成立以來，不但已接手前建造業訓練局有關建造業培訓及技能/工藝測試的職責，而且成為當局諮詢業界持份者的主要平台，在上述過程中發揮了重要的作用。
It is worth noting that CIC has since its establishment not only taken over from the former Construction Industry Training Authority the responsibilities in relation to construction training and trade tests but has also become the main platform for the Administration to consult industry stakeholders playing an important role in the process
據了解，該議會自2015年1月起推出一個全面的宣傳及推廣計劃，以配合今年4月1日實施《條例》下"專工專責"的規定。
I have been given to understand that CIC has launched a comprehensive publicity and promotion campaign since January 2015 to tie in with the implementation of the DWDS requirement under CWRO
為了順利落實上述兩項附屬法例的規定，他們將推出一系列活動，包括發出相關指引，推出智能手機應用程式以發放相關資訊；在建造工地推廣規管重點；以及為業界持份者舉行簡報會等。
In order to facilitate the implementation of the two items of subsidiary legislation CIC will launch a series of activities including issuing guidelines launching a smartphone application to disseminate relevant information promoting the salient points of regulation on construction sites and organizing briefing sessions for industry stakeholders
代理主席，儘管我與業界朋友一樣，認同無須在附屬法例中訂明檢討時間表，但在擬議附屬法例生效後，政府當局理應利用《條例》訂下的現行機制和業界溝通，持續檢討新規定的實施情況，聽取業界不同持份者的意見，以便規劃未來的路向，並使相關法例的修訂與時俱進。
Deputy President although I agree with members of the industry that it is not necessary to specify a review timetable in the subsidiary legislation however once the proposed subsidiary legislation comes into effect the Administration should communicate with the sector through the existing mechanism under CWRO to continuously review the implementation of the new requirements . It should also listen to the views of different industry stakeholders in order to plan the way forward and keep the amendments abreast of the times
如果沒有，議員已發言完畢。
If not Members have already spoken
我現在請發展局局長發言。
I now call upon the Secretary for Development to speak
在局長發言後，辯論即告結束。
The debate will come to a close after the Secretary has spoken
主席，我動議通過印載於議程內的議案，即有關"盡快全面檢討政府的服務外判制度"的議案。
President I move that the motion as printed on the Agenda that is the motion on Expeditiously conducting a comprehensive review of the Governments service outsourcing system be passed
主席，在政府實施的外判制度下，外判員工普遍面對薪酬低、職業欠保障的實況。
President under the outsourcing system implemented by the Government outsourced workers generally face the reality of low salaries and a lack of job security
很多時候，他們的薪酬只達最低工資，僅可糊口。
Very often their salaries which only reach the minimum wage rate can barely eke out a living
外判政策成為剝削工人的幫兇，在市民的眼中，其實政府是否建立了壞規矩、樹立了壞榜樣呢？
The outsourcing policy has become an accomplice in exploiting the workers . In fact in the eyes of members of the public has the Government established a bad rule and set a bad example?
香港在回歸前受英國管治，特別在1990年代後，因循英國的政策，受新自由主義的影響，強調"大市場，小政府"，外判政策正是受新自由主義影響下的一種產物。
Hong Kong was under the British rule before the reunification . Following the British policy and influenced by neo - liberalism especially after the 1990s it emphasized the principle of big market small government . The outsourcing policy was exactly a product influenced by neo - liberalism
根據香港政府效率促進組的資料，政府把服務外判的原因包括更靈活地回應浮動不定的需求，以及提高成本效益和效率等，這是政府內部的說法。
According to the information of the Efficiency Unit of the Hong Kong Government the reasons for the outsourcing of services by the Government include increasing the flexibility in coping with fluctuating demands and attaining better cost - effectiveness and efficiency . This is the Governments internal view
但是，很多市民，包括我，對這兩點絕不認同。
However many members of the public including me absolutely do not agree with these two points
我們了解到，外判員工其實是有其長期穩定的需要，例如政府兩大採購部門，即食物環境衞生署和康樂及文化事務署，均長期聘用超過1萬名外判員工，而員工的變動率每年不足5%。
We understand that there is actually a long - term and steady need for outsourced workers . For example the two major procuring government departments namely the Food and Environmental Hygiene Department FEHD and the Leisure and Cultural Services Department LCSD have employed more than 10 000 outsourced workers for a long period and the annual rate of staff movement is less than 5 %
試問這麼少的變動，怎會是政府所說的浮動不定呢？
With such a small change how will it be fluctuating as mentioned by the Government?
又例如，據調查顯示，由政府部門內部提供的有關服務轉為外判服務後，最多只可節省兩成的開支，而且亦會增加政府每年的管理成本，這成本是多少呢？
Another example is according to survey findings after the services provided internally by government departments were outsourced only 20 % of the expenditure could be saved at the maximum and the annual management cost of the Government also increased . What was the cost?
最離譜的是政府產業署，其比率竟然是864%，反映外判情況極為普遍和嚴重。
The most outrageous case was GPA where the percentage was 864 % reflecting the prevalence and severity of outsourcing
不論是哪個部門的外判員工，他們面對的情況同樣困苦，主要原因是政府外判服務的評分標準是"價低者得"。
Regardless of to which department the outsourced workers are attached the plight faced by them is the same . The main reason is that under the Governments assessment criteria in outsourcing the lowest bid wins
政府一定會表示現時已經不是"價低者得"，而是採用"兩個信封"的制度，但實際上，魔鬼在細節當中，其實價格因素永遠佔六成至七成，技術因素他們有一個名為"技術信封"包括工資水平、其他服務水準和承諾的服務內容等，只佔三成至四成。
The Government will certainly say that now it has already adopted the two - envelope system instead of the approach of the lowest bid wins . In reality however the devil lies in the details . In fact the price factor always accounts for 60 % to 70 % whereas the technical factors―they have the so - called technical envelope―including the wage level other service standards particulars of the services pledged etc account for only 30 % to 40 %
根據調查顯示，其實八成多的合約是批給出標價最低的入標者。
According to survey findings actually some 80 % of the contracts were awarded to tenders offering the lowest bid
在我接獲的投訴個案中，更有一些是新合約提供的工資較舊合約更低。
Among the complaints received by me the wages offered in some new contracts were even lower than those in the old contracts
我最近處理的一宗投訴是關於新界某個屋邨，大家知道保安員的月薪大約是8,000多元，但新合約提出的薪酬竟然較舊合約低500多元，當中的減幅令人相當驚訝。
A complaint which I have recently handled concerns a certain housing estate in the New Territories . As we all know the monthly salary of a security guard is 8,000 - odd but surprisingly the salary offered in the new contract was 500 - odd lower than that in the old contract . The rate of cut was shocking
因此，在這種不平衡的評分機制下，工人的福祉往往被犧牲，以及被列為非常次要的考慮因素。
Hence under such an imbalanced scoring mechanism the well - being of workers is often sacrificed and listed as a consideration of very low priority
另一個為人詬病的問題是扣分制度。
Another subject of criticisms is the demerit point system
連成效不彰也說不上，簡直猶如紙老虎，形同虛設。
It cannot even be described as ineffective . It is simply like a paper tiger that has been rendered non - existent
在2012年至2014年期間，據政府提交的數字顯示，只有1宗涉及合約承辦商接獲有關部門發出失責通知書，只有1宗而已。
According to the figures submitted by the Government from 2012 to 2014 there was only one case in which a contractor received a default notice issued by the relevant department
審計署亦指出，康文署和房屋署並無根據扣分制度向涉事承辦商發出失責通知書，亦發現有5名曾經被定罪的承辦商繼續承辦食環署的16份合約。
The Audit Commission has also pointed out that LCSD and the Housing Department did not issue any default notice to the contractors involved in accordance with the demerit point system . It was also found that five contractors which had been convicted before continued to take up 16 contracts from FEHD
在現行監管制度下，中標的服務承辦商只需按時提供標準服務，而當中的人手、裝備及職業安全等問題均不受重視。
Under the existing regulatory regime the service contractor winning the bid needs only provide standard services as scheduled . Matters such as manpower equipment and occupational safety are not given any serious attention
正如我剛才所說，"判上判"的情況在資訊科技的T-contract中尤為嚴重。
As I said just now the situation of subcontracting is especially serious in respect of T - contracts for IT services
這些提供T-contract的公司承接了政府部門的資訊科技合約後，再外判給一些中介公司又是中介公司再聘用一些人，工作形式像"炒散"般，明明是技術性工種，工資卻被壓低至與非技術性工種無異，差不多貼近最低工資，可見不論是服務質素或工人權益，均欠缺保障。
After the companies providing T - contracts took up the IT contracts from the government departments they subcontracted the work to some intermediaries―intermediaries again―which then hired some people to work like casual workers . They were obviously skilled workers but their wages were suppressed to such a level which was no different from that of non - skilled workers and was close to the minimum wage thus showing a lack of assurance for both the quality of service and the rights and interests of workers
另一個問題是標準僱傭合約的漏洞。
Another issue is the loopholes in the standard employment contract
雖然我們已爭取多年，一直希望能優化標準僱傭合約，但該合約仍然漏洞重重。
Although we have striven for years to enhance the standard employment contract the contract is still full of loopholes
我們已多次提醒政府，政府卻視而不見。
We have tendered the Government repeated reminders but the Government just turns a blind eye to the problem
其中一點是，政府要求服務承辦商必須與僱員簽署標準僱傭合約，列明每月工資、工時及付款安排等，但最常見 的剝削是遣散費"走數"。
A case in point is that the Government requires the service contractors to sign a standard employment contract with the employees setting out the monthly wages work hours payment arrangements etc but the most common exploitation is defaulting on severance payments . Every contract has its expiry date
合約總有完結的時候，一份合約完結後，有關公司明顯流失或減少了一個職位，按勞工法例的理解，是很清晰的遣散情況，但這些承辦商往往以半推半就、"半呃半氹"或威迫利誘的方式，迫員工簽署自願離職信，或對他們說，如果不簽署離職信，新接手的公司未必會聘用他們，又或會把他們調職至偏遠地方。
After a contract has expired there is obviously a loss or reduction of post in the company concerned . According to the interpretation of the labour legislation it is a clear case of severance . However these contractors often force the employees to sign a voluntary resignation letter by persuading them with pressure lying to them with sweet talk or adopting the carrot and stick approach or they will tell them that if they did not sign the resignation letter the new company taking over may not hire them or may transfer them to the remote areas
那些基層員工當然希望留在原來的地方繼續工作，於是這些外判承辦商便可堂而皇之，看似合法地逃避支付遣散費。
The grass - roots workers certainly wish to stay in the original places to work . So these contractors can overtly evade severance payments in a seemingly lawful way
我們其實已向政府反映這問題多年，但政府卻未有正視。
We have actually relayed this problem to the Government for years but the Government did not address it squarely
經過今次討論後，我們希望政府會檢視標準合約現時在遣散費方面的漏洞，特別要參考2012年一宗法庭判例，以堵塞漏洞。
We hope that after this discussion the Government will review the existing loopholes in the standard contract with regard to severance payments . It should particularly draw reference from a court precedent in 2012 to plug the loopholes
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：陸頌雄議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr LUK Chung - hung be passed
我會依次請要動議修正案的何俊賢議員、梁耀忠議員、莫乃光議員、潘兆平議員及郭家麒議員發言；但他們在現階段不可動議修正案。
I will call upon Members who move the amendments to speak in the following order Mr Steven HO Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Mr Charles Peter MOK Mr POON Siu - ping and Dr KWOK Ka - ki; but they may not move the amendments at this stage
"盡快全面檢討政府的服務外判制度"的議案辯論。
The motion debate on Expeditiously conducting a comprehensive review of the Governments service outsourcing system
《道歉條例草案》 《2017年印花稅條例草案》。
Apology Bill Stamp Duty Amendment Bill 2017
政府法案：二讀。
Government Bills Second Reading
剛才我聽到陸頌雄議員慷慨陳詞，一談到中介公司便好像麥美娟議員"上身"般，其實我非常認同他的發言，因為我剛剛聽到政府提及關於中介公司的數字後，最終卻表示沒有事可以做。
When Mr LUK Chung - hung delivered his impassioned speech just now it seemed that he had transformed into Ms Alice MAK at the mention of intermediaries . Actually I strongly share his speech because I just heard the Government say that nothing could be done after mentioning the figures of intermediaries
我想起我代表的業界，禽流感其實沒有導致很多人死亡，我敢說這些中介公司害死的人比禽流感多。
This reminded me of the industry represented by me . Actually avian flu has not caused many deaths . I dare say the number of deaths attributed to these intermediaries is greater than that caused by avian flu
所以，有病卻不醫治，與殺人無異。
This explains why failing to treat illnesses is tantamount to killing someone
無可否認，外判制度某程度上可以配合政府"大市場，小政府"的政策，幫助政府利用自由市場提供更佳的服務，提高生產效率。
Undeniably the outsourcing system can to a certain extent complement the Governments policy of big market small government thereby assisting the Government in providing better services and enhancing productivity by capitalizing on the free market
陸頌雄議員剛才亦提到，服務質素所佔的評分比例偏低。
Just now Mr LUK Chung - hung also mentioned that the score weighting carried by the quality of outsourced services is relatively low
由於承辦商之間的競爭非常激烈，承辦商為了取得服務合約，往往將投標價格降至很低，以"賺頭蝕尾"的方式參與投標，"睇餸食飯"、將貨就價。
Given the extremely keen competition among outsourced service contractors they tend to propose extremely low tender prices to ensure that they will be awarded the service contracts . Not only will they adopt the approach of offsetting subsequent losses with the initial profits in participating in tenders but they will also spend within the means and provide inferior services at lower costs
隨着近年落實最低工資的規定，加上勞動市場持續暢旺，不同的基層工種出現"搶人"情況。
With the implementation of the prescribed minimum wage rate and the persistently active labour market in recent years various job types at the elementary level are found scrambling for workers
由於政府的外判服務承辦商所給予的工資真的非常低，導致經常聘請不到人手。
Since the wages offered by the outsourced service contractors are really extremely low they face a constant shortage of manpower
當前線員工作出投訴時，承辦商便面對工資上漲和前線員工大量流失的情況，他們很多時候會"偷雞"削減人手。
When complaints are lodged by frontline employees contractors will be facing rising wages and a massive drain of frontline employees . Very often they will slash manpower secretly
我聽到很多基層市民表示，老闆經常說人手不足，叫他們"捱義氣"支撐一兩天，漸漸便是1個月、1個月變2個月；到政府進行調查時，老闆便回應："不好意思，我聘請不到人，之後會增聘人手"，然後便不了了之。
I have heard many grass - roots people say that their employers would often complain of manpower shortages and ask them to take up the job for a couple of days and then one or two months afterwards . When the Government conducts inquiries the employers will respond by saying Sorry it was difficult to recruit hands . I will recruit additional staff later
所以，這個問題現在變得很普遍，最終影響了香港的市民。
But then no action will be taken . This is why this problem has now become so prevalent that Hong Kong people will eventually be affected
第二個大問題是政府對承辦商的監管不力。
The second major problem is the Governments poor supervision of service contractors
現時，政府部門採購外判服務時一般會訂明，承辦商必須遵守合約和《僱傭條例》，如果違反規定便會遭扣分、罰錢、終止合約甚至不准投標。
Currently when government departments procure outsourced services they will in general stipulate that contractors must abide by the contracts and the Employment Ordinance . Should they contravene the provisions they will have their merits deducted face the imposition of fines have their contracts terminated or even face the possibility of being prohibited from making bids
我也聽聞過奧雅納事件，陸頌雄議員剛才也列舉了很多數據，我不重複他的說話。
I have heard the incident involving the Ove Arup Partners Hong Kong Ltd too . Just now Mr LUK Chung - hung also cited a lot of data hence I will not repeat his remarks