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此外，據報道，繼李女士離職後，廉署還有兩名中高層員工離職，而廉署的周年晚宴也延期舉行，林議員說這些情況是反映出李女士離職引起廉署內部強烈不滿及極度質疑。
In addition it has been reported that following the resignation of Ms LI two upper - middle level officers of ICAC also left their posts and the annual dinner of ICAC was postponed . According to Mr LAM all these can show the strong dissatisfaction and grave queries in ICAC arising from the departure of Ms LI
雖然林議員聲稱他取得廉署的內部消息，但並不代表他可以代廉署內部發言。
Although Mr LAM claims that he has access to internal ICAC sources this does not mean that he can speak for the people in ICAC
根據該篇訪問，他表明這種負面觀感純粹基於揣測，並無事實根據，只是擔心自己接任這職位會為執行處帶來更多公眾疑慮，所以才提出解約。
As recorded in the interview report he said very clearly that the negative perception was based purely on speculations and not backed up by any facts . But since he was worried that his taking over the post would only give rise to more public concerns he offered to resolve his agreement
反而執行處的同事擔心他離職會進一步動搖社會大眾對廉署的信心，所以竭誠挽留他，他最終亦為了廉署的利益，選擇留任。
But then his colleagues in the Operations Department feared that his departure would further shake public confidence in ICAC so they asked him to stay . Eventually he chose to stay for the benefit of ICAC
基於李女士離職一事經傳媒廣泛報道，不少前廉署人員據報都對今次事件發表了意見。
Owing to the extensive media coverage of Ms LIs departure many ex - officials of ICAC have reportedly expressed their views on this incident
作為廉署前調查主任的林議員早前已經提出要求廉政專員下台，但前廉政專員施百偉回應記者時卻表明不同意白韞六專員辭職，又認為他以機密為由，拒絕披露李寶蘭人事任命問題的細節沒有做錯，而且取消署任很平常。
Earlier on Mr LAM as a former Investigator in ICAC demanded the stepping down of the ICAC Commissioner . However a former ICAC Commissioner Mr Bertrand de SPEVILLE when responding to press enquiries expressed his clear disagreement to the resignation of Simon PEH . In his view Simon PEH had done the right thing by refusing to disclose details concerning Rebecca LIs appointment on the grounds of confidentiality and that the cancellation of an acting appointment was actually very common
公眾人士固然可以對事件持不同的意見，但人事管理的個案每每涉及不少不宜公開的個人私隱，如果提交出來進行公審的話，可能有違當事人的意願，對當事人亦不公平。
The public may understandably have different views on the incident but personnel management cases often involve various personal privacy issues which should not be made public . Putting such cases under public scrutiny may be against the wills of the parties concerned and is also unfair to them
現時林議員則更進一步，在沒有充分證據下，仍然在立法會提出議案，作出嚴重指控，想要求引用《條例》進行調查，如此做法等同打開缺口，讓黨派政治滲進廉署，猶如打開潘朵拉的盒子。
Now Mr LAM even goes so far as to move a motion in this Council without sufficient evidence making serious allegations with the aim of invoking the Ordinance for launching an inquiry . This is no different from opening the floodgate allowing the penetration of partisan politics into ICAC . This is just like unlocking the Pandoras Box
屆時，廉署的獨立性勢將受到嚴重挑戰，後果實在不堪設想。
The independence of ICAC will come under severe challenge and the consequences will be beyond imagination
主席，引用《條例》成立專責委員會是一件非常嚴肅的事，只有在一些實實在在具備表面證據或資料，而且涉及重大公眾利益的事件需要調查的時候，本會才應該決定動用該條例，而並不能夠基於揣測而動用。
President the invocation of the Ordinance for setting up a select committee is a serious matter . This Council should decide to invoke the Ordinance only when there is concrete prima facie evidence or information and when significant public interest is involved . The Ordinance must not be invoked on the basis of mere speculations
雖然今天的議案提出了一項極為嚴重的指控，但現時泛民議員的態度就是，雖然沒有真憑實據，但是說得粗俗一點這件事一定"有啲野"，所以要引用《條例》作出徹查。
The allegation in the motion today is very serious but the stance of pan - democratic Members is that despite the absence of any concrete evidence the Ordinance must be invoked to inquire into the incident because there must be something fishy―this word may be a bit vulgar
然而，根據林議員的論述，外界只看到猜疑而不是重大的疑點。
However the wider community can only hear speculations but not any major issues of suspicion from Mr LAMs arguments
主席，立法會的《條例》及專責委員會從來都不是用作政治打壓異己的工具，亦不是為個別議員捕風捉影提供方便，以滿足他們的猜疑。
President the Ordinance and the select committees of this Council are never meant to be a tool of suppressing political rivals . They are also not meant to be used as convenient tool by individual Members to satisfy their desire to very their wild guesses
主席，廉潔是香港其中一項很寶貴的核心價值，廉署多年來不偏不倚的竭力維護香港的廉潔，在國際上享有崇高聲譽，因此本議會及廣大市民必須好好珍惜維護，包括保護它免受政治干擾。
President probity is among the most precious core values of Hong Kong . Having spared no efforts in acting impartially to uphold probity in Hong Kong over the years ICAC enjoys high reputation in the international community . Therefore both this Council and the general public must cherish and defend it safeguarding it against any political interference
剛才有一位議員說廉署向立法會求助，希望作出調查，我卻不曾聽聞有這樣的事情，亦沒有聽過廉署向建制派求助。
According to one Member ICAC wants to seek help from this Council hoping that an inquiry into the incident can be conducted . Yet I have never heard of that nor have I ever heard of ICACs seeking of help from the pro - establishment camp
如果廉署真的需 要求助，他們可以直接與建制派議員聯絡，不需要假手泛民議員的發言轉告我們。
If it really needs help it can contact pro - establishment Members straight ahead and need not convey to us their message via the speeches delivered by pan - democratic Members
只要他們願意說出來，我相信建制派亦會願意聆聽。
As long as they are willing to speak up I believe that the pro - establishment camp will be more than willing to listen
主席，今天的議會已經因為某些人的政治目的而幾乎癱瘓，如果我們今天容許他們基於缺乏基本證據支持的揣測而漫無目的進行徹查，隨意把廉署政治化，蠶食本港的一根重要支柱，則整個社會都要付出沉重的代價。
President this Council is now in a virtual state of paralysis nowadays due to the political motives of some people . If we allow them to conduct an aimless inquiry based on speculations not backed by any basic evidence if we allow them to politicize and erode this very important pillar of Hong Kong called ICAC at will society as whole will have to pay a high price
很可惜，林議員口說要維護廉署的公平、公正，但其實際的行為，卻是在打擊市民、甚至國際社會對廉署的信心，捐害廉署長久承傳下來的"金漆招牌"，實在令人遺憾。
It is such a great pity that while Mr LAM speaks of the need for upholding the fairness and impartiality of ICAC his act will instead deal a blow to the confidence of the public and even the international community in ICAC . This will damage the long - standing reputation of ICAC
我要申報我是廉政公署事宜投訴委員會的委員。
I declare that I am a member of the ICAC Complaints Committee
代理主席，我相信一名僱主能夠成功經營一家企業，賺到錢，其員工的努力付出，是一個重要因素。
Deputy President I believe the endeavours and efforts of employees are a key factor contributing to the success of an employer in running a profitable enterprise
僱員為僱主付出那麼多，為社會貢獻一生，期望退休後能有尊嚴地生活，實是天經地義的事。
It is actually right and proper for employees having done much for their employers and made lifelong contribution to society to expect a retirement life in dignity
事實上，現時的強積金制度千瘡百孔，實施了十五六年，市民未見其利，先見其害，行政費高昂、投資的基金欠缺監管等弊端，一直為人詬病。
In fact the existing MPF System is fraught with loopholes and mistakes . It has been in place for 15 or 16 years but members of the public have suffered losses before they can actually benefit from it . Such drawbacks as high administration fees and the lack of supervision over funds invested have all along been causes of criticism
但是，說到對"打工仔女"影響最深、最不公平的，肯定是遣散費和長期服務金的對沖機制。
But when it comes to the greatest and most unfair impact on wage earners it is definitely the mechanism of offsetting severance and long service payments
成立強積金的原意，就是要為市民提供退休保障。
The original intent of setting up MPF was to offer retirement protection to members of the public
但是，容許對沖，強積金已大大失去其退休保障的意義。
However given this offsetting the function of MPF to assure retirement protection has been considerably impaired
連幫我們寫稿，在立法會大樓辦公室工作的同事，即我們的助理，亦面對同樣的問題，議員4年一屆任期，如果議員能連任當然最好，視乎議員連任多少屆，否則一般議員助理的強積金每4年便要被對沖一次。
Even the colleagues working in the offices of the Legislative Council Complex that is our assistants who write up speech drafts for us face the same problem . The term of office of a Member is four years . It will be best if a Member can get re - elected
如果這群"打工仔女"退休無保障，他們如何可以過有尊嚴的退休生活？
In the absence of retirement protection how can these wage earners lead a retirement life in dignity?
我感謝黃國健議員提出這項議案辯論，以及6位議員，包括吳永嘉議員、蔣麗芸議員、尹兆堅議員、張超雄議員、劉小麗議員和田北辰議員提出的修正案。
I thank Mr WONG Kwok - kin for proposing this motion and also six Members namely Mr Jimmy NG Dr CHIANG Lai - wan Mr Andrew WAN Dr Fernando CHEUNG Dr LAU Siu - lai and Mr Michael TIEN for the amendments proposed
這是一個寶貴機會，讓我們可以在這個複雜及高度爭議的議題上，在新一屆立法會聽取各位議員，尤其是新任議員的意見。
This presents a precious opportunity for us to gather views from Members of the new Legislative Council especially those new Members on a subject that is complicated and highly controversial
首先，讓我扼要說明《僱傭條例》中遣散費和長期服務金的保障，以及強制性公積金對沖安排的背景。
First of all let me give a succinct account of the protection in the form of severance and long service payments under the Employment Ordinance EO as well as the background of the offsetting arrangement under the Mandatory Provident Fund MPF System
《僱傭條例》於1974年加入遣散費的保障，為因裁員而遭解僱的僱員提供補償，以紓緩僱員短期內因失去工作而面臨的財政壓力。
The protection of severance payment was introduced into EO in 1974 to make compensation to employees dismissed owing to redundancy so as to help alleviate their short - term financial hardship upon loss of employment
其後，鑒於相比因裁員而被遣散的僱員，年長及服務同一僱主多年後非因裁員而被解僱的僱員，在法例上所得補償差距甚大；加上年長的 僱員在解僱後往往甚難覓得新工作，因而由1986年開始，《僱傭條例》引入長期服務金，為這類僱員提供補償。
After that given the huge gap in the amount of compensation receivable under the law by older employees dismissed for reasons other than redundancy after serving the same employer for a long period of time compared with employees dismissed owing to redundancy and coupled with the fact that it was very often quite difficult for older employees to find a new job after dismissal long service payment was introduced into EO in 1986 to compensate such employees
其後，長期服務金條文經多次修訂，在不同的情況下，為僱員提供補償。
A number of amendments were subsequently made to the provisions on long service payment to provide compensation to employees under different circumstances
在引入遣散費及長期服務金時，已有對沖安排，容許僱主以他們按僱員年資支付的酬金或公積金供款，用作抵銷遣散費和長期服務金的開支。
The offsetting arrangement was already in place when severance and long service payments were introduced allowing employers to offset their expense on severance and long service payments against the gratuity based on the length of service payable to an employee or the contributions made to a provident fund
強積金的立法原意，是設立強制性公積金計劃，為在職人士提供退休利益。
The legislative intent behind the MPF System is to set up MPF schemes for the retirement benefits of people in employment
在推出強積金計劃時，為避免僱主需要作出雙重開支，該條例容許僱主可使用其為僱員向強積金計劃繳付的僱主供款所產生的累算權益，抵銷向僱員支付的遣散費或長期服務金。
Along with the introduction of MPF schemes the Ordinance allows employers to use the accrued benefits in an employees MPF account derived from their contributions to offset the severance or long service payments payable to that employee so that employers would not need to make payments twice
現時，強積金覆蓋超過250萬名僱員，是整個香港退休保障制度的4根支柱之一。其他3根支柱，包括各項由公帑支付的社會保障計劃、自願退休儲蓄保險，以及公共服務、家庭支援和個人資產。
At present the MPF System with a coverage of over 2.5 million employees is one of the four pillars under the retirement protection system of Hong Kong as a whole while the other three pillars are namely various publicly - funded social security schemes voluntary retirement savings - related insurance as well as public services family support and personal assets
事實上，隨着香港老年人口增加，政府投放在長者的資源持續增長。
In fact given the growing elderly population of Hong Kong the Government has persistently increased the resources dedicated to the elderly
政府在2016-2017年度投放在長者安老服務、社會保障金額及醫療3方面的經常開支合計高達673億元，佔政府經常開支約兩成，顯示政府對長者的堅實承擔。
In 2016 - 2017 the Governments recurrent expenditure on elderly services social security and health care totals 67.3 billion accounting for about 20 % of its recurrent expenditure so it shows how firmly committed the Government is to the elderly
社會一直以來有不少意見認為應強化作為香港退休保障第二根支柱的強積金的退休保障功能，若讓對沖安排以目前的方式繼續存在，長遠會削弱強積金發揮退休保障的作用。
All along there have been views in the community that the function played by the MPS System as the second pillar of retirement protection of Hong Kong should be strengthened and that the effect of retirement protection achieved under the MPS System will be undermined by the continual existence of the offsetting arrangement in its present form long term
事實上，對沖安排這項議題在社會各界一直有截然不同的意見，可謂南轅北轍。
In fact different sectors of the community have divergent views about the offsetting arrangement which are poles apart so to speak
勞工界關注對沖安排會減少強積金中僱主供款部分的累算權益，強烈要求盡早取消對沖安排，以加強僱員的退休保障。
The labour sector is concerned about the offsetting arrangement reducing the accrued benefits derived from employers MPF contributions thus making strong calls for its expeditious abolition with a view to enhancing the retirement protection for employees
另一方面，商會、僱主組織及企業普遍強烈反對取消對沖安排，認為會大大加重僱主的負擔，影響營商環境。
On the other hand trade associations employers groups and enterprises in general are strongly opposed to abolishing the offsetting arrangement holding that this will greatly add to employers burdens and affect the business environment
如果我們看看以強積金對沖遣散費及長期服務金的數字，相信大家會認同這個問題必須正視。
If we look at the figures on the offsetting of severance and long service payments against MPF benefits I believe Members will agree that the issue must be addressed
單在2015年，有30億元由僱主強制供款的強積金因對沖而被提取，當中涉及45,300名僱員。
In 2015 alone 3 billion of MPF benefits derived from employers mandatory contributions was withdrawn owing to offsetting involving 45 300 employees
平均每名僱員被對沖的遣散費和長期服務金金額，分別為58,600元及105,600元；而從強積金計劃實施以來，因對沖而被提取的款額已接近300億元。
The amounts of severance and long service payments so offset amounted to 58,600 and 105,600 respectively for each employee . Since the introduction of MPF schemes nearly 30 billion has been withdrawn owing to offsetting
雖然相對於強積金接近6,000億元的總資產值而言，因對沖而被提取的款額只佔大約5%，但對於受對沖影響的僱員來說，因對沖而被提取的款額可能已佔他們強積金戶口累算權益的半數，而 對於收入低的僱員來說，對沖對他們的影響更大。
The amount withdrawn owing to offsetting accounted for merely 5 % out of the total worth of nearly 600 billion of MPF benefits but to the employees affected by offsetting the amount withdrawn owing to offsetting may take up half of the accrued benefits of their MPF accounts and the impact of offsetting on low - income employees is even greater
就廣大僱員的退休利益而言，這肯定不是一個理想的情況，我們必須處理。
As regards the retirement benefits for employees at large the situation is definitely not satisfactory and we must tackle it
香港人口持續急速老化，退休保障問題迫在眉睫。
Given the persistent and rapid ageing of Hong Kongs population retirement protection is a pressing issue
扶貧委員會於去年年底開展了有關退休保障的6個月公眾諮詢，一併就如何強化現有退休保障制度各根支柱的功能，其中包括強積金及對沖安排，諮詢公眾的意見。
Towards the end of last year the Commission on Poverty CoP launched a six - month public consultation on retirement protection to canvass views from the public on how the functions of each of the pillars under the existing retirement protection system can be strengthened including the MPS System and the offsetting arrangement
我想強調，這次就對沖安排所作出的公眾諮詢，是現屆政府主動及刻意提出，足以反映政府是有決心處理這個老大難的問題。
I would like to emphasize that the said public consultation on the offsetting arrangement was initiated and proposed by the current - term Government evident of the Governments determination to tackle this old big and difficult issue
我相信大家都明白，強積金對沖是一個很複雜及具高度爭議性的課題。
I believe Members will understand that the MPF offsetting arrangement is a very complicated and highly controversial issue
在作出公眾諮詢時，扶貧委員會已表示不可低估這項議題的複雜性，並了解僱主對經營成本上升的關注。
In conducting the public consultation CoP remarked that the complexity of the issue should not be underestimated and that it understood employers concern about rising operating costs
委員會亦強調，處理對沖問題並不是一個簡單地"保留"或"撤銷"的選擇。
CoP also stressed that dealing with the question of offsetting does not simply boil down to a choice between retention or abolition
若要取消對沖安排，我們必須讓社會充分討論何時和如何執行，並找出一個僱主和僱員雙方都能接受的方法，在僱員的權益和僱主的承擔能力之間，取得適當、合理的平衡。
Should the offsetting arrangement be abolished we must enable ample discussion in the community on when and how to do it and identify a way acceptable to both employers and employees so as to strike a suitable and reasonable balance between the interests of employees and employers affordability
我希望勞資雙方在政府努力建立共識的過程中，能採取互諒互讓、理性務實的態度。
I hope that both employers and employees can adopt a rational and pragmatic approach with a sense of mutual understanding and accommodation in this course of the Government endeavouring to forge a consensus
有關的公眾諮詢已於今年6月完結，政府現正仔細分析及研究收集所得的意見。
The said public consultation ended in June this year and the Government is now doing some careful analysis and studies on the views collected
主席，就黃國健議員今天所提出的議案中，強積金與遣散費及長期服務金對沖安排的部分，我謹此陳辭。
President with regard to the part on offsetting severance and long service payments against MPF benefits in the motion proposed by Mr WONG Kwok - kin today I shall stop here
我和財經事務及庫務局局長會在聆聽各位議員的意見後，再作進一步回應。
The Secretary for Financial Services and the Treasury and I will make further responses after listening to the opinions of Members
我剛才聽建制派議員，尤其是張華峰議員的發言，他們反對的理由真是充滿矛盾。
While listening to the speeches of the pro - establishment Members just now particularly the one given by Mr Christopher CHEUNG I was struck by their arguments which were indeed full of contradictions
這是挺可笑的，因為張華峰議員說其實這些官員真的要自我反省，看看有否一些公職人員疏忽職守，亦指出如果立法會要求把政府作為問責和調查的首要目標是不妥當的，因為根本不知責任誰屬。
It was rather hilarious for Mr Christopher CHEUNG to concede that the relevant government officials should indeed reflect upon themselves and an examination for possible dereliction of duty on the part of public officers is in order while stating that it would be inappropriate for the Legislative Council to demand an inquiry with the overriding objective of holding the Government accountable as we simply do not know who is responsible
他又促請香港鐵路有限公司的人員要謙卑和認真。
He also urged the personnel of the MTR Corporation Limited MTRCL to adopt a humble and serious attitude
主席，如果這些公職人員從來沒有疏忽職守、如果港鐵公司一直是以謙卑和認真的態度處事，今天便不會弄出這個爛攤子了。
President had these public officers never been negligent in performing duties and had MTRCL all along adopted a humble and serious attitude in its dealings we would not have been presented such a mess today
如果立法會在憲制上是最重要的監察政府的權力架構不是以政府問責為首要目標，我真的不知道應以甚麼為首要目標。
It beats me to imagine what other overriding objective should the Legislative Council as the most important institution of power to monitor the Government at the constitutional level pursue other than that of holding the Government accountable
同時，如果我們不成立專責委員會進行調查，我們又怎知責任誰屬呢？
Moreover if we do not establish a select committee to conduct an inquiry how can we determine who should be responsible?
既然我們要向政府追討責任，但又不能成立獨立調查委員會，又不知責任誰屬，而夏正民法官的調查委員會又不會以責任誰屬作為目標和取向，我們剩下來還有甚麼機制可調查究竟責任誰屬呢？
Given that we must hold the Government accountable―but without the benefit of an independent committee of inquiry and the knowledge of who was responsible and that the Commission of Inquiry under Mr Michael HARTMANN neither seeks nor intends to find out who should be responsible what other mechanisms of inquiry do we have for identifying the parties responsible?
是否只有警方或ICAC可以這樣做，而除了刑事範圍外，在管治和問責方面，我們便無須理會？
Is this something that can only be done by the Police or the Independent Commission Against Corruption? . And beyond the scope of criminal offences should we just turn a blind to issues concerning governance and accountability?
就整個醜聞，我們及後如何追究責任，調查真相，令事情真正水落石出，然後令有關人士負起責任，在刑事上有刑事的責任、在管治或政治上有管治或政治的責任，這些也是社會上的一般倫理吧。
Does the common morality accepted in society not dictate that after the outbreak of the entire scandal we should ascertain responsibility conduct an inquiry to really find out the truth and then hold the parties concerned responsible not only at the criminal level but also at the governance or political level?
作為立法會議員，我們的對口便是政府，因此，我們當然是要追着政府詢問。
Since the Government is the corresponding party of Members it is only natural that we will bludgeon the Government with questions
夏正民法官的調查委員會是由特首根據《調查委員會條例》成立的。
The Commission led by Mr Michael HARTMANN was formed by the Chief Executive by virtue of the Commissions of Inquiry Ordinance
當一種權力，尤其是最大的權力行政權出現問題時，立法會便有機會向它追究責任。
If there is a problem with one power especially with the biggest power―the executive power the Legislative Council will have a chance of holding it accountable
因此，《基本法》清楚訂明，政府有責任向立法會問責，這正正是我們應發揮的作用。
Hence it is stipulated clearly in the Basic Law that the Government should be accountable to the Legislative Council . And holding the Government accountable is precisely the function this Council should perform
接着下來，今天，他們將會第九次阻止立法會盡應有之義。
Later on today they will block this Council from performing its proper responsibility for the ninth time
沙中線是一條只有17公里長的鐵路工程，現時的造價已經接近1,000億元，而我們尚未知道在出現連串醜聞後究竟須如何重新處理。
A railway project stretching just 17 km SCL costs nearly 100 billion to build presently and we have yet to find out how the project would be adjusted afresh after the emergence of one scandal after another
紅磡站是否索性有部分須重新興建呢？
Would it not be simpler to rebuild part of Hung Hom Station from scratch?
我不知成本是多少，但肯定再創新高，較高鐵更昂 貴。
I have no idea how much it will cost but the figure will surely hit a new high exceeding that of the Express Rail Link project
這條鐵路當然對香港的交通發揮很大的作用，原定於今年年中通車，但現在卻通車無期。
While SCL will certainly play a big role in transport in Hong Kong its commencement originally scheduled for the middle of this year is now deferred indefinitely
在去年5月底至8月，傳媒揭發了一連串有關沙中線沿線建築工程的問題；如果不是傳媒揭發，我們到今天仍然會被蒙在鼓裏。
From late May to August last year a series of issues relating to the construction works along SCL were exposed by the media . Without these exposures by the media we will still be kept in the dark today
紅磡站的擴建工程有鋼筋被剪短、連續牆的接駁位滲水、土瓜灣站的月台牆身鋼筋被移除、會展站的挖掘工程未按程序要求設置深層支架、土瓜灣站和會展站周邊的樓宇和地下設施的沉降標準超出容許的上限，還有一連串其他問題。
They include among a litany of other issues rebars at the Hung Hom Station Extension being cut and water seepage at the connection joints of its diaphragm wall the removal of rebars at platform slab of To Kwa Wan Station the failure to install in - depth supports in accordance with procedural requirements in the course of excavation at Exhibition Centre Station as well as the settlement levels of the buildings and underground facilities in the vicinity of To Kwa Wan Station and Exhibition Centre Station exceeding the permissible ceilings
事情牽涉那麼大範圍，甚至牽涉到有關承建商禮頓建築有限公司擅自更改圖則，而工人則偷剪鋼筋，很明顯是有機會影響整個月台的承托能力，而沉降標準亦可能令有關建築物出現結構性問題。
Since the issues involved are extensive in scope even featuring unauthorized alterations of plans by the relevant contractor―Leighton Contractors Asia Limited Leighton and the cutting of rebars in stealth by workers there are the distinct possibilities of the loading capacity of the entire platform being compromised and the relevant buildings falling victim to structural problems as settlement levels suggest
本來如此大的醜聞一連串地爆發，其實根本我們一早便應成立獨立調查委員會，但一直被你們阻止。
If it was not for your repeated obstruction we would have indeed established an independent committee of inquiry long since given the magnitude of the scandals exploding one after another
好了，"林鄭"在公眾壓力下亦成立了獨立調查委員會，本來聆訊已經剛剛完結，但就在完結時，又揭發原來與沙中線紅磡站的3項工程，包括南面連接隧道、北面連接隧道和列車停放處有關的施工表格缺失。
Well as soon as the Commission formed by Carrie LAM under public pressure finished its hearings and was about to wrap up the inquiry there was this exposure of incomplete construction documentation in relation to the works of the North Approach Tunnel South Approach Tunnel and stabling sidings of Hung Hom Station of SCL
RISC forms一式五份，港鐵公司的制度十分嚴格，在5份當中，港鐵公司有1份，地盤辦公室有1份，承辦商禮頓有1份，另外兩份則作為文件紀錄。
Under the rigorous system of MTRCL each RISC form comes in five hard copies one goes to MTRCL one to site offices one to Leighton the contractor with the remaining two being kept as filed records
沒有這份表格，承建商不能把混凝土運送到地盤，而禮頓和港鐵公司的監督人員要共同簽署這份表格，才可以進行釘板和灌注混凝土的工序。
Without such forms contractors cannot ship concrete to a given site . And the procedures of erecting formwork and concrete pouring can proceed only with the joint signatures of the inspectors of Leighton and MTRCL on such forms
主席，立法會要成立獨立專責委員會來調查事件，我們是有我們的職責和角度的。
President an independent select committee formed by the Legislative Council will inquire into the incident in a way commensurate with our duty and perspective
政府作為這事件的總策劃，它也是港鐵公司董事會的最大股東，亦有相關的股東代表，究竟在管治架構上出現了甚麼問題？
What has gone wrong with the governance structure involving the Government which is the chief architect of SCL and the largest shareholder of MTRCL with representation on the latters Board of Directors?
為何可以有這麼大的缺失，而政府卻似乎一直被蒙在鼓裏？
Why has the Government been seemingly kept in the dark over blunders of such magnitude?
無論是剛才說的管治架構，或政府在委託港鐵公司進行沙中線工程的委託協議的制訂過程當中，以至對委託協議的監察，究竟是出現了甚麼問題？
What has gone wrong with the aforementioned governance structure or the formulation and monitoring of the Entrustment Agreement with which the Government entrusted the SCL works to MTRCL?