Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
為了更負責任的得知我所代表的教育界對於政府推出"一地兩檢"方案的意見，我曾進行調查。
To responsibly understand how the education functional constituency which I represent thinks about the Governments co - location proposal I have conducted a members opinion survey to collect their view
為了解會員的意見，我透過教協進行了會員意見調查，方法是透過電話向會員進行語音調查訪問，提出3個主要問題，包括是否支持此項建議、如果實施此建議的話，會否對"一國兩制"或《基本法》的信心有影響，以及應否進行諮詢？
The survey was conducted through the Hong Kong Professional Teachers Union HKPTU by means of an interactive voice response system . In the survey we have asked the respondents three questions whether they support the proposal; whether the implementation of the proposal will affect their confidence in one country two systems or the Basic Law; and whether it is necessary to conduct a consultation
在過去13天，我們成功訪問了835位朋友，當中七成是現職的校長及老師，三成是退休的校長及老師，當中亦涵蓋了大學、中學、小學、幼稚園、特殊學校及少量的其他教育機構。
During the past 13 days we successfully interviewed 835 HKPTU members 70 % of them are serving school principals and teachers while 30 % are retired principals and teachers working for or having worked for universities secondary and primary schools kindergartens special schools and a few other educational institutions
因此，我相信此項調查有相當高的參考價值。
Hence I am confident that this survey is of high reference value
第一條問題是問會員是否支持在西九站內設立執行內地法律的內地口岸區這"一地兩檢"的方案？
The first question is whether HKPTU members support the co - location proposal for the setting up of a Mainland Port Area MPA under the Mainland laws inside WKS . The results can be seen in this pie chart
這裏一共有5格，其實5格的分布頗平均。
The chart is divided into five slices to illustrate numerical proportion and the distribution is quite even
大家看到反對和支持的相差3%，其實在統計學上可能有偏差，所以不能說反對的遠高於支持的，但可以看到的是那種意見分歧是非常清楚的。
As we can see the difference between the number of supporters and opponents of the proposal is 3 % . Taking into account of the statistical deviation we cannot conclude that people against the proposal way outnumber those for it . But we can see clearly that public opinion is divided
我們問的第二條問題是，如果真的做，對"一國兩制"和《基本法》的信心會否有影響？
Our second question is if the co - location proposal is really implemented how will this affect your confidence in one country two systems and the Basic Law?
會增強還是削弱？
Will this strengthen or weaken our confidence?
我們看到結果是，認為會增加信心的，只有18%，兩成也不足夠，但信心大減的剛好是50%。
Only 18 % of the respondents say they will have more confidence . This group account for even less than 20 % of the total but exactly half of the respondents say they will have significantly less confidence
換言之，我們剛才說在支持政府方案的人中，都有某些原因驅使他們覺得如果這樣通過方案，會減低他們對《基本法》和"一國兩制"的信心，減低的幅度其實相當厲害，這種情況是否我們想要的？
In other words among those who support the Governments proposal in the survey out of some reasons they believe the endorsement of the proposal this way will weaken their confidence in the Basic Law and one country two systems . The rate of reduction is rather alarming . Is this what we want?
我們特別要留意這一格，即信心大減這比較極端的情況高達35%，這種現象是我們必須正視的問題。
We have to pay particular attention to this pie chart slice for as much as 35 % of the respondents are in this extreme scenario of having a significant loss of confidence . We must face up to this problem squarely
我們在簡單的調查中未必找到所有原因，但我相信其中一個原因涉及第三條問題。
We cannot give you an exhaustive list of reasons in this simple survey but I think one of the reasons should be related to the third question of this survey
我們第三條問題是問， 究竟這事宜應否進行公眾諮詢？
Our third question is whether a public consultation should be conducted on this issue
認為不需要進行公眾諮詢的有15%，強烈認為需要諮詢的是50%......
While 15 % of the respondents do not see any need for a public consultation 50 % 49 % strongly think there is such a need
有65%的人認為要諮詢，即使他們支持政府的方案，但也覺得政府應該諮詢後才作決定，我相信這是我們會員很公道的意見。
A total of 65 % of respondents believe there is a need to conduct consultation . Even though some of them approve of the Governments proposal they still think the Government should first consult the public before making any decision . I believe our members views are fair enough
有人贊成，有人反對，但大部分都覺得我們需要諮詢，如果連諮詢也不做，會削弱對《基本法》和"一國兩制"的信心，因為政府是硬來。
Some support the proposal and some others oppose it but a majority of them think there is a need for consultation . The absence of any consultations will weaken their confidence in the Basic Law and one country two systems as they consider the Government just seeks to force the proposal through
因此，我覺得這是非常清晰地顯示......因為我們有9萬名會員，所以我相信這是一個相當有代表性的意見。
Hence this survey sends out a very clear message As HKPTU has 90 000 members I am confident that this survey is rather representative
經過分析後，主席，我們看到在一個民主社會中，公眾參與十分重要，向公眾諮詢就是讓公眾參與最簡單和最有效的形式。
After doing some analyses President we can see that a democratic society attaches great importance to the public engagement . A public consultation is the simplest and most effective form of engaging the public
林卓廷議員剛才批評政府，指它向立法會提交一項沒有約束力的議案，便表示它尊重立法會，其實我們亦應對市民表達最大的尊重，就是進行一個有系統的公開諮詢。
Just now Mr LAM Cheuk - ting has criticized the Government for its insincere respect for the Legislative Council by merely submitting this non - legally binding motion to the legislature . Instead the greatest respect for the public is the conduct of a systemic public consultation
如果政府在重大的問題不進行正式和全面諮詢，只是拿着自己認為對的選擇性諮詢，難免會作出錯誤的決定。
Wrong decisions are unavoidable if the Government would rather carry out a selective consultation on its preferred proposal than a formal and comprehensive consultation
即使諮詢後大家的決定都是錯的，但大家一起承擔責任。
It is still possible for us to make mistakes even after the public consultation exercise but then the entire society would share the responsibility for such wrong decisions
現在如果政府不進行諮詢而做錯決定，必須由政府當局獨自承擔，而且大家因為沒有參與其中，心理上便會對此事有強大的反彈。
Yet if the Government denies public consultation and makes mistakes in its policies it has to shoulder full responsibility for the faults . Worse still as the public are not engaged in the process they are set to react strongly
過去有很多諮詢工作不足的例子，例如清拆皇后碼頭、西九香港故宮文化博物館相信大家對此記憶猶新又或是橫洲東北發展計劃等。
There were numerous cases of inadequate consultation such as the demolition of the Queens Pier the Hong Kong Palace Museum at West Kowloon which I think we still have a fresh memory and the Wang Chau as well as the North East New Territories developments
我們在進行調查時看到支持政府"一地兩檢"方案的人其實亦渴望政府在這議題上進行正式和公眾諮詢，他們的想法很容易理解。
We observe from the survey results that many respondents who support the Governments co - location proposal are also keen to see the Governments launching of a formal public consultation on the topic
我希望政府能夠真的尊重市民的意見，這是由他們心內發出來的。
Their views are easy to understand as it is their heartfelt wishes that the Government would really respect the public opinions
主席，在特首發表今年的施政報告前，我一如既往發表了我的施政報告教育政策前瞻，我當時在教育政策範圍中提出政府必須重視和重新建立有效、有系統的溝通和諮詢的機制，政策的制訂過程必須讓持份者有充分的參與。
President as in the past I have published an Article to look ahead at the education polices before the Chief Executive delivered this years Policy Address . I pointed out in the Article that the Government should attach importance to and rebuild an effective and systemic communication and consultation mechanism in respect of education policies . The policy formulation process should allow sufficient engagement of the stakeholders
昨天，我們說到TSA或BCA的報告時也強調這一點，為何有強烈反對意見或有保留意見的，政府便不會接觸和徵詢他們的意見？
Yesterday when we talked about the Territory - wide System Assessment and the report on the Basic Competency Assessment Research Study we also questioned the Governments reluctance to have dialogues with or consult those who strongly opposed to or had reservation about its policies
這種做法其實極不可取。
This is highly undesirable
要做諮詢就應該坦誠、開放，讓不同意見都能發表，然後吸納公眾意見，採納民間智慧，凝聚社會共識。
A consultation should be a frank and open exercise to enable the public to express both their supportive or opposing opinions . Only through soliciting public views and adopting folk wisdom could the Government forge a consensus in society
即使大家有不同意見，大家經討論後有不同意見，這經討論和不經討論是有很大分別的。
Although we have different views and even if the divergences continue to exist after discussion there is still a mark different between with and without discussion
邵家臻議員，請繼續發言。
Mr SHIU Ka - chun please continue with your speech
"'一地兩檢'，香港危險"，如"一地兩檢"獲通過，"一國兩制"便會被消磨掉。
Co - location arrangement will only expose Hong Kong to the danger and one country two systems will be no more once the co - location arrangement is given green light
據聞建制派同事收到指令，須於本周通過這項議案，如本周未能通過，則星期五或六便要加開會議，直至通過為止。
There is hearsay that the pro - establishment Members have been given directions that this motion has to be passed within this week . Or else additional meetings will be scheduled for Friday or Saturday until it is passed
代理主席，羅蘭夫人曾說過一句話："自由，自由，多少罪惡假汝之名而行！
Deputy President Madame ROLAND once said Oh Liberty! . Liberty! . What crimes are committed in thy name!
"今天的香港人可以把這句名言改成："高鐵，高鐵，多 少罪惡假汝之名而行！
Today Hong Kong people can change the sentence into this Oh XRL! . XRL! . What crimes are committed in thy name!
"廣深港高速鐵路並不符合《基本法》，既斷送"一國兩制"，充滿着工人的血淚，更是浪費香港市民的血汗錢，是一條令香港傷痕累累的鐵路。
Being inconsistent with the Basic Law the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link only serves to bring an end to the one country two systems while wasting Hong Kong peoples hard - earned money as well as the blood and tears shed by those workers having engaged in its construction . It is a rail road that will only leave Hong Kong with scars
為了高鐵，究竟政府要香港人作出多少犧牲呢？
And how much more must Hong Kong people sacrifice indeed for the sake of XRL?
2009年10月20日，香港特區政府草率地"拍板"硬銷近乎零諮詢的高鐵方案。
On 20 October 2009 the Hong Kong SAR Government lightly decided to hard - sell the proposal of co - location arrangement for XRL for which almost zero consultation was conducted
除了有人被毀家園外，還有不少工人因興建高鐵而意外受傷。
Not only were peoples homes destroyed many workers also got injured in accidents relating to the construction of the XRL as a result
根據勞工處提供的數字，自2010年動工至2015年期間，高鐵工程香港段發生了超過600宗工業意外，奪去最少4條寶貴生命。
According to the figures provided by the Labour Department more than 600 cases industrial accidents were recorded since the commencement of the construction of the Hong Kong Section of the XRL up to 2015 claiming at least four precious human lives
2010年1月16日，立法會在一片爭議聲中強行通過撥款，以進行造價高達669億元的高鐵工程。
On 16 January 2010 the funding of as much as 66.9 billion for the XRL project was approved by the Legislative Council in the midst of controversies
2016年3月11日，又因地質問題及工程延長引致超支而需再額外撥款196億元，這亦是在爭議聲中通過。
On 11 March 2016 an additional funding of 19.6 billion was also in the midst of controversies approved to make up for the overruns caused by geological problems and prolonged works
高鐵總建設成本近870億元，準確數字應為864億2,000萬元。
The total capital cost for the XRL project is nearly 87 billion well the exact amount should be 86.42 billion
關於當時申請撥款以至後來追加撥款，以及如何通關、檢查等問題，政府一直未能正正式式及圓圓滿滿地回答立法會的質詢，亦未能釋除市民對高鐵影響"一國兩制"的疑慮。
The Government has yet to officially give thorough replies to the questions raised at this Council in respect of the original funding application as well as all additional funding applications made subsequently and the issues of clearance inspections etc . Moreover it still fails to allay the publics concern about one country two systems being undermined by the XRL project
從一開始，香港便不應在西九龍興建一條全球最昂貴的高鐵。
XRL the worlds most expensive high - speed rail link should not be built in West Kowloon of Hong Kong right from the start
很多學者也指出，高鐵根本無法回本，即使退一萬步，以務實的態度政府經常說要務實接受高鐵香港段這個既定事實，也不等於說，香港市民可以接受在香港市中心進行"一地兩檢"的安排。
A number of academics remarked that there is no way for the XRL to fully recover its costs . Even though we adopt a pragmatic perspective―the Government often speaks of the need of being pragmatic―and take the Hong Kong Section of the XRL as a fait accompli that does not mean that the Hong Kong people consider it acceptable to conduct customs immigration and quarantine CIQ procedures at a town centre in Hong Kong under the co - location arrangement
今年3月，前運輸及房屋局局長張炳良表示，"一地兩檢"有許多細節需待兩地政府作最後確認，故不宜披露太多細節。
Former Secretary for Transport and Housing said in March this year that it was inappropriate to disclose too many details of the co - location arrangement since a number of which still pending finalization by both governments
當時，他要求議員要有多些耐性，並表示會在上屆政府任期完結前交待具體方案，但事實上，媒體已踢爆，"一地兩檢"方案已在2014年10月拍板。
Back then he asked Members to exercise more patience with the issue while reassuring them that he would give an account of specific details of the co - location arrangement before the previous term of Government came to an end . Yet as revealed by media reports the co - location arrangement in question had already been decided in October 2014
2016年2月，國務院港澳事務辦公室已提交設置布局方案予香港政府，但政府一直隱瞞，拒絕開誠布公和盡早公布細節，拒絕諮詢市民。
In February 2016 the Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office of the State Council had already given to the Hong Kong Government the layout plan for the co - location arrangement but our Government has been concealing the truth from us and refused to make public as soon as possible the relevant details honestly . It even refused to consult the public as well
2016年1月8日，律政司、運輸及房屋局和路政署呈交立法會的文件指出："由於高鐵香港段西九龍總站位處九龍半島，當然是位於香港特別行政區的地理範圍內。
According to the paper submitted to this Council on 8 January 2016 by the Department of Justice the Transport and Housing Bureau and the Highways Department and I quote [S]ince the West Kowloon Terminus of the Hong Kong Section of the XRL is situated in the Kowloon Peninsula it is certainly within the geographical area of the HKSAR
將來儘管在西九龍總站實施'一地兩檢'的安排，但是不會將西九龍總站內的任何範圍剔除於香港特區的區域範圍之外。
Even if the co - location of the customs immigration and quarantine facilities of the HKSAR and the Mainland at the West Kowloon Terminus is implemented no area within the West Kowloon Terminus will be carved out of the HKSARs territory
"最後，政府在今年7月公布"一地兩檢"安排方案，把西九龍總站劃出近四分之一範圍歸內地人員管轄，除了海關、出入境及檢疫手續，內地口岸區實施整 套內地法律，由內地行使司法管轄權。
End of quote At last the Government announced this July the implementation of Hong Kong and Mainland CIQ procedures at West Kowloon Station under which almost a quarter of the West Kowloon Terminus has been carved out for establishing a Mainland jurisdiction namely the Mainland port area . Apart from the CIQ procedures a complete set of Mainland laws will apply in the Mainland port area where jurisdiction will be exercised by the Mainland
由此可見，政府最初是隱瞞，後來是說謊。
This is to tell us that apart from concealing the truth from the outset our Government even went on to lie to us afterwards
政府推銷"一地兩檢"時，謊話連篇，一方面說"一地兩檢"有先例可援，另一方面又說內地根本不可能加建通關設施，但又表示方案不會違反《基本法》，我相信政府或許會如《1984》般，一會說戰爭即和平，一會又說自由即勞役，又或會說無知才是力量。
It lied a lot in promoting the co - location arrangement for example . It tells us that there are precedents of co - location arrangement but on the other hand it says it is impossible for the Mainland to introduce additional clearance facilities and the current proposal of co - location arrangement will not contravene the Basic Law . And so it is likely that the Government will I believe say something like war is peace at one occasion while saying freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength at other occasions as quoted from George Orwells 1984
像這些偏離事實、不盡不實的說法不知還有多少？
It is hard to tell how many more such messages that have either deviated from facts or revealed only part of the truth will come
先談談"'一地兩檢'有先例可援"的觀點。
First of all let me talk about the view that there are precedents of co - location arrangement
深圳灣的"一地兩檢"與西九龍站的"一地兩檢"有着極大的差別，不能相提並論。
Actually the co - location model adopted at Shenzhen Bay is so much different from that to be implemented at West Kowloon Station and no comparison should be drawn between the two
深圳灣海關設於邊境，西九龍則位處香港的市中心。
At Shenzhen Bay clearance facilities are set up at the border area but those at West Kowloon Station are located in the town centre
深圳灣是依據內地法律，賦予香港特別行政區權力，把屬內地的領土租予香港，實施香港的法例。
In the case of Shenzhen Bay certain territory belonging to the Mainland is leased to the HKSAR in accordance with the Mainland laws thus empowering the Hong Kong Government to enforce the laws of Hong Kong there
但是，西九龍在香港的市中心，香港的《基本法》並沒有賦予香港或內地任何權力，讓內地執法人員在香港的領土範圍執行內地法例。
However concerning the case of West Kowloon Station which that stands in the town centre the Basic Law neither gives Hong Kong nor the Mainland any powers to permit Mainland enforcement officers to enforce Mainland laws within Hong Kongs territory
在香港市中心進行"一地兩檢"，必會涉及在港實施內地法例的問題，況且《基本法》已訂明，除了國防、外交之外，全國性法例不能在香港執行。
Inevitably implementation of the co - location arrangement in Hong Kongs town centre must give rise to the issue of enforcing Mainland laws in Hong Kong because it is provided in the Basic Law that national laws other than those on national defence and diplomacy shall not be applied in Hong Kong
此外，亦有人梁美芬議員剛才也曾提及連接英國及法國的鐵路"歐洲之星"也採取"一地兩檢"的安排但其做法是，由倫敦前往巴黎時，乘客須在倫敦登車前完成了英法兩國的通關手續；由巴黎前往倫敦時，則須在巴黎登車前完成了英法兩國的通關手續。
Besides some people―Dr Priscilla LEUNG has also mentioned just now that co - location arrangement is also adopted by Eurostar the railway linking up Britain and France―but in that case passengers travelling from London to Paris must complete all clearance procedures in London before they can board the train while those travelling from Paris to London must complete all clearance procedures in Paris before boarding the train
英法兩國絕對不會把車站及列車的管轄權劃分予對方國家。
Neither will Britain nor France surrender their jurisdiction over their respective train stations to the other country
政府現時的"一地兩檢"方案，是在香港處理兩地的通關手續，更把西九龍站列車上的司法管轄權割讓予內地。
Under the co - location arrangement currently proposed by the Government clearance procedures of both Hong Kong and the Mainland will take place on Hong Kong soil . Moreover the jurisdiction over the trains at West Kowloon Station will be handed over to the Mainland Government
陳帆局長曾表示"一地兩檢"是唯一的方案，內地根本不可能重建通關設施以遷就香港人的不合理要求，他甚至要求尹兆堅議員現實一點。
According to Secretary Frank CHAN the proposed co - location arrangement is the only viable option since it would be totally impossible for the Mainland to rebuild the clearance facilities in order to address Hong Kong peoples unreasonable demand . He even asked Mr Andrew WAN to adopt a more realistic stance instead
事實上，2010年時任運輸及房屋局局長鄭汝樺在回應議員對興建高鐵的質疑時，曾說可以研究"一地兩檢"以外的折衷方案。
As a matter of fact when addressing the queries raised by Members of this Council in 2010 concerning the construction of the XRL the then Secretary for Transport and Housing Eva CHENG had said that the Government might explore compromise schemes other than the co - location arrangement
而兩個月前，亦有媒體踢爆深圳福田站的設計是預留了位置作口岸及通關手續。
And just two months ago media reports revealed that as shown in the design of the Futian Station in Shenzhen room was actually earmarked for establishing port areas and clearance facilities there
最後，我必須談談《基本法》，它確保香港維持"一國兩制"50年不變。
Last but not least I must talk about the Basic Law which guarantees that one country two systems in Hong Kong shall remain unchanged for 50 years
《基本法》第十八條訂明，全國性的法例不能在香港特別行政區實施。
It is stipulated in Article 18 of the Basic Law that national laws shall not be applied in the HKSAR
因高鐵之名，香港政府又會幹甚麼好事呢？
And what extreme measures will the Hong Kong Government take in the name of XRL?
代理主席，大家認為是唯一的方案，是否真的就是唯一的呢？
Deputy President are we supposed to take it for real that it is the only option simply because everybody thinks so?
"發展，發展，多少惡行，假汝之名而行！
Oh Development! . Development!
"我謹此陳辭。
I so submit
在我曾接觸的市民當中，大部分均支持和希望高鐵能盡早開通，並希望可在西九龍站完成"一地兩檢"，免卻日後乘搭高鐵抵達內地時需要進行多一次清關、入境及檢疫程序。
Among the citizens with whom I have contact most are in support of and looking forward to the early commissioning of XRL . It is also their hope that the co - location arrangement can be implemented at West Kowloon Station so that they will not be required to complete the customs immigration and quarantine procedures once again in the Mainland when they travel on XRL in the future
事實上，高鐵通車及在西九龍站實施"一地兩檢"均有助減低時間成本，促進香港和內地的工商、金融以至專業服務等各方面的聯繫和來往溝通，鞏固香港作為國際金融中心的地位，最終達致多贏局面。
As a matter of fact the commissioning of XRL and the implementation of the co - location arrangement at West Kowloon Station are conducive to achieving saving in time costs promoting connections and communications between Hong Kong and the Mainland in various aspects such as industry and commerce finance professional services strengthening Hong Kongs status as an international financial centre and eventually achieving a multi - win situation
主席，反對派認為今次的"一地兩檢"方案有違《基本法》。
President the opposition camp considers that the proposed co - location arrangement is in contravention of the Basic Law
我相信特區政府和內地當局在商討相關事宜的過程中，兩地法律專家必會堅持確保"一地兩檢"方案符合"一國兩制"政策，不會違反《基本法》。
I believe that in the process of discussions between the SAR Government and the Mainland authorities legal experts of both sides will definitely strive to ensure that the arrangement adopted is in line with the policy of one country two systems and shall not contravene the Basic Law
在明年進行本地立法時，反對派議員其實有機會可針對法律觀點作深入、詳盡的討論和了解。
When local legislation is enacted next year Members of the opposition camp will have the opportunity to conduct detailed and thorough discussions and examination of the legal opinions involved
目前反對派堅持己見，不分青紅皂白，把西九龍站的"一地兩檢"方案說成是"割地兩檢"，簡單地把西九龍站落實"一地兩檢"安排說成是破壞"一國兩制"及違反《基本法》，剝削香港人權利之舉，目的是要把西九龍站"一地兩檢"安排完全置諸死地。
However the opposition camp is now stubbornly clinging to its own views indiscriminately describing the proposed implementation of the co - location arrangement at West Kowloon Station as cession - based co - location arrangement and oversimplifying the whole issue as a move to undermine the principle of one country two systems contravene the Basic Law and deprive Hong Kong people of their rights . The only objective of doing so is to completely do away with the proposal to implement the co - location arrangement at West Kowloon Station
我很懷疑他們是否真心為香港好、為港人好，還是為了達致他們的政治任務和目的，不惜犧牲市民利益及損害香港的整體發展亦在所不計。
I am very doubtful whether they are really working sincerely for what is good for Hong Kong and the people or they are determined to carry out their political missions and achieve their political objectives and for this purpose will not hesitate to do anything that will sacrifice peoples interests and do harm to the overall development of Hong Kong
我認為反對派對中央政府和特區政府缺乏信心，以致產生這些不必要的誤會，當中亦由於有極少數人不想甚至抗拒中港融合，因而把西九龍站實施"一地兩檢"安排當作他們的政治工具。
In my opinion the opposition camp lacks confidence in the Central Government and SAR Government and this may be the cause all such unnecessary misunderstandings . A very few of them have also used the co - location arrangement proposed to be implemented at West Kowloon Station as a political tool to resist Hong Kongs integration with the Mainland
有泛民議員曾表示一定要把西九龍站"一地兩檢"方案拉倒，令高鐵無法如期通車，這樣做其實會把香港推向邊緣化，把香港推向無可挽救的危險邊緣，結果只會損害香港的整體利益，根本是要令香港自斷經脈。
Some Members of the pan - democratic camp have claimed that they must get rid of the proposed co - location arrangement at West Kowloon Station so that XRL cannot be commissioned as scheduled . This will in fact marginalize Hong Kong thus pushing Hong Kong to the edge of a cliff and inducing irreversible harm on the overall interests of Hong Kong . In so doing Hong Kong will only cut itself off entirely from the path of development
主席，關於西九龍站"一地兩檢"方案有多麼便利，在此我不再重複，但我要強調，落實西九龍站"一地兩檢"方案的目的只有一個，便是以香港整體利益為出發點，令高鐵香港段能發揮最高效益，為香港打通任督二脈。
President I am not going to elaborate repeatedly here the convenience of implementing the co - location arrangement at West Kowloon Station but I would like to emphasize that with the overall interests of Hong Kong in mind the only objective for implementing the arrangement is to give full play to the effectiveness of the Hong Kong Section of XRL so as to achieve better connections with the Mainland
這做法違反了議會一向的慣例，便是讓新聞界、市民知道立法會會議的討論內容。
Such a motion constitutes a breach of the tradition of this Council to allow members of the press and of the public to learn about the discussions at the Legislative Council meetings
"一地兩檢"如此重要的議題，怎能不讓市民知道？
For such an important issue as the co - location arrangement how can we not let the public know?
主席，因應你的說法，我想要求澄清。
President I would like to seek elucidation in respect of what you have said
既然根據《立法會條例》，立法會會議須公開舉行，為何你容許本會進行這項違反有關條例的辯論？
Given that sittings of the Council shall be open to the public under the Legislative Council Ordinance why did you allow this debate which is contrary to the Ordinance to be held in this Council?
你能否以公眾利益為由不予批准？
Can you reject it on the grounds of public interest?
主席，我正在發言，你不可以說我不是在發言。
President I am speaking now and you cannot say that I am not speaking