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屆時，立法會議員將可以進一步討論條例草案及相關事宜。
Legislative Council Members can further discuss the bill and related matters
在"一地兩檢"安排下，乘客須分別在西九龍站經過香港及內地的清關、出入境及檢疫程序，而內地派駐機構只會在西九龍站"內地口岸區"執行職務。
Under the co - location arrangement passengers will need to undergo Hong Kong and Mainland customs immigration and quarantine procedures in WKS respectively . Mainland Authorities Stationed at the Mainland Port Area will only perform duties and functions in the WKS Mainland Port Area
由於這些設施設備將由內地派駐機構提供及為執行職務專用，故此按照《合作安排》並不屬於香港特區管轄事項。
Since these facilities and equipments will be provided and exclusively used by the Mainland Authorities Stationed at the Mainland Port Area they will not be matters under the jurisdiction of HKSAR in accordance with the Co - operation Arrangement
"走數"範圍包括中長途的直達站由16個變為10個，而直達站的意思亦改變了，本來是指中途不停站，現在則變成無需轉車。
The promises broken include the decrease in the number of destinations for long - haul and direct train services from 16 to 10 and the alteration of the meaning of direct train services from reaching various destinations with no intermediate stops to travelling to these places without interchanging
多謝陳議員的提問。
I thank Ms CHAN for her question
首先，我必須在此重申，香港特區政府從第一天起直至今天，從來也沒有"走數"。
First of all I have to reiterate that the HKSAR Government has never broken any promise from the first day till now
律政司司長、保安局局長和我是"一地兩檢"三人組的成員，由第一天開始至今一直合作無間。
The Secretary for Justice the Secretary for Security and I have been working together closely from the very first day as the trio to take forward the tasks of implementing the co - location arrangement
第二，關於中長途直達站，由於我們跟中國鐵路總公司的討論和磋商仍在進行中，所以今天仍有很多事宜須在落實後才可作公布。
Secondly with regard to destinations for long - haul and direct train services a number of issues are yet to be finalized and announced since our discussions and negotiations with the China Railway Corporation are still underway
因此，關於日後開通的中長途直達站，請大家稍為忍耐，讓我們得出決定後再向大家作出匯報。
Hence in respect of the Mainland cities to which long - haul and direct train services will be available please be patient for a little longer and we will report on the progress once a decision is reached
至於"內地口岸區"有否放置武器的相關設施及有關情況，我相信一如其他出入境口岸，西九龍站的"香港口岸區"和"內地口岸區"的設置，主要是為了配合實際運作情況，讓執法人員能有效地進行清關、出入境和檢疫工作，確保旅客的通關程序得以暢順有效地進行。
As for the availability of facilities for storing weapons at the Mainland Port Area and the related situation I believe that as all other boundary control points the Hong Kong Port Area and Mainland Port Area at WKS are established mainly for meeting the needs of actual operations so as to enable law enforcement officers to perform customs immigration and quarantine procedures effectively and ensure a smooth and efficient passenger clearance service
至於有關人員須配備甚麼設施、設備及其他安排，我相信全球也訂有相關準則，而據我理解，"內地口岸區"的相關設備、設施和安排，亦與香港或其他地方的相關安排相若。
With regard to the facilities equipment and other arrangements necessary for the relevant personnel to perform their duties I think relevant criteria have already been put in place all over the world and according to my understanding the facilities and equipment provided at and the arrangements made for the Mainland Port Area are comparable to those provided and made in Hong Kong or other places
主席，我再無補充。
President I have nothing to add
主席，《基本法》第一百五十八條已清楚訂明，全國人大常委會擁有對《基本法》的解釋權，而全國人大常委會亦已確認有關"一地兩檢"的《合作安排》符合《中華人民共和國憲法》和《基本法》。
President Article 158 of the Basic Law has clearly stipulated that NPCSC is vested with the power of interpretation of the Basic Law and NPCSC has also confirmed that the Co - operation Arrangement on the co - location arrangement is consistent with the Constitution of the Peoples Republic of China and the Basic Law
香港現時已有軍營、飛機和大炮，又何須利用西九龍站進行這些活動？
There are barracks aircrafts and artillery in Hong Kong so why is there a need to use WKS for such purposes?
因此，政府在推動有關"一地兩檢"的本地立法工作時，如何能令市民認清事實，以免被人利用這些以偏概全、不盡不實的說法蒙在鼓裏？
Therefore when forging ahead with the enactment of local legislation to implement the co - location arrangement how will the Government present the facts to members of the public so that they will not be kept in the dark by people who make such sweeping statements and untruthful remarks?
當然，特區政府還有很多工作需要進行。
There are of course still a lot of work for the HKSAR Government to do
我們希望在日後的解說和推廣過程中，能盡可能把相關的基礎和安排說個清楚明白，以市民易於理解的言詞作出解釋。
We hope that in the course of explaining and promoting our proposals in the future our efforts will be backed up by a very clear elaboration on the relevant legal basis and arrangement in a language that is easily comprehensible to ordinary members of the public
主席，其實也難怪陳淑莊議員會提出這些問題，因為《基本法》一直具備中國法和普通法的雙重特性，這由她出生那天開始已是如此。
President it is indeed no wonder that Ms Tanya CHAN would have such queries because the Basic Law has all along possessed the features of both Chinese law and common law and this has been the case since the first day of its promulgation
"一地兩檢"安排正好反映了就同一條文或《基本法》同一立法原意，中國法和普通法的詮釋角度也有不同之處。
The co - location arrangement is exactly an example as to how a provision or the same legislative intent of the Basic Law can be interpreted differently from the perspective of Chinese law and under the principles of common law
她提及違憲審查權，但其實中國一直不同意有違憲審查權，頂多是在"高度自治"的範圍下，法院具有審理有關的《基本法》條文時的解釋權，但並非凡事皆可如此處理......
She has mentioned in her question the power to inquire into the constitutionality of laws but China has in fact all along denied the existence of such a power . Hong Kong courts can at most exercise its power to interpret in adjudicating cases the provisions of the Basic Law within the limits of a high degree of autonomy but not every case can be handled in this way
我想問，在提交條例草案的同時，當局會否提早為兩地執法人員進行培訓，令他們先行了解雙方在執法上的法律情況，以及對方的執法手法，盡量令有關運作能在陽光下進行呢？
I would like to ask While introducing a bill into the Legislative Council whether the authorities concerned will provide training to law enforcement officers of both sides in advance so that these officers can first understand the legal problems that may arise during law enforcement by both sides and the law enforcement practices of the other party thus ensuring as far as possible that everything will operate under broad daylight?
關於梁議員剛才的提問，在培訓方面，我稍後會作出詳細答覆。
With regard to the part concerning the provision of training in the supplementary question raised by Dr LEUNG just now I will give a detailed reply later
至於違憲審查權，相信大家均明白，全國人大常委會已在其決定中清楚表示，《合作安排》符合《中華人民共和國憲法》及《香港特別行政區基本法》，香港社會應尊重全國人大常委會作出的決定。
As for the power to inquire into the constitutionality of laws I think we all understand that NPCSC has already stated very clearly in its decision that the Co - operation Arrangement is consistent with the Constitution of the Peoples Republic of China and the Basic Law of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region . The community of Hong Kong should then respect the decision made by NPCSC
全國人大常委會作出決定的整個過程，是由特區與內地簽署《合作安排》，然後由國務院提請全國人大常委會審議，最後經分組討論後由全國人大常委會投票通過作出決定，這安排完全符合國家的憲制程序。
The entire process leading to the adoption of the decision by NPCSC involves the signing of the Co - operation Arrangement between HKSAR and the Mainland followed by the submission to NPCSC by the State Council for examination and finally the adoption of the decision by NPCSC by voting following deliberations in group meetings . This is fully consistent with the constitutional process of the country
再者，全國人大是全國最高國家權力機關，全國人大常委會則是全國人大的常設機關，同時亦是《基本法》所有條文的最終把關人。
Moreover the National Peoples Congress NPC is the highest organ of state power whereas NPCSC is a permanent body of NPC and also the final gatekeeper of all provisions of the Basic Law
全國人大常委會在《基本法》第一百五十八條下，擁有條文的一般性及全面解釋權，其所作解釋對香港特別行政區所有機構均具有約束力。
According to Article 158 of the Basic Law NPCSC is vested with the general and comprehensive power of interpretation of the provisions of the Basic Law and its interpretation is binding on all organizations in HKSAR
因此，對於全國人大常委會今次行使其憲制性權力，根據《中華人民共和國憲法》和《基本法》作出決定，正如我剛才所說，香港社會是應該尊重全國人大常委會的憲制地位、權力及其所作決定的。
Therefore as I mentioned earlier when NPCSC has exercised its constitutional power to make the decision in accordance with the Constitution of the Peoples Republic of China and the Basic Law the community of Hong Kong should respect NPCSCs constitutional status power and decision
就梁議員剛才所提有關培訓工作的補充質詢，我們亦明白在廣深港高鐵西九龍站實行"一地兩檢"安排，在司法和法律運用上其實是互不重疊。
With regard to the question raised by Dr LEUNG just now on the provision of training we understand that in implementing the co - location arrangement at WKS of XRL there will actually be no overlapping in the administration of justice and the application of laws
在"香港口岸區"會以香港法治基礎為依歸，以香港法律為基礎，在"內地口岸區"則主要以內地法制和內地法律為準。
The laws of Hong Kong will be applied in the Hong Kong Port Area on the basis of Hong Kongs system of rule of law while the legal system and laws of the Mainland will principally be applied in the Mainland Port Area
《基本法》多項條文，包括梁議員剛才提到的第一百一十八條和第一百一十九條，均在不同範疇、不同層面和不同程度上反映和體現了上述政策原意。
This policy intent has already been reflected and embodied to various extents at different aspects and levels in a number of provisions in the Basic Law including Articles 118 and 119 mentioned by Mr LEUNG just now
其實，我剛才提述的某些文字，基本上是從《基本法》原文照錄，所以相關的法理基礎已很清楚，大家可以在《基本法》中找到。
Basically some terms and wordings which I have used just now are in fact taken directly from the Basic Law . The relevant legal basis is thus very clear and it is enshrined in the Basic Law for all to see
主席，我發言反對陳克勤議員提出的"不得就毛孟靜議員動議的譴責議案再採取任何行動"的議案。
President I speak against Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion on No further action shall be taken on the censure motion moved by Honourable Claudia MO
我的理由主要有3點，第一，何君堯議員在該次集會中的發言，是會帶來很嚴重的問題。
I oppose Mr CHANs motion mainly because of three reasons . First what Dr Junius HO has said in the rally will cause very serious problem
我再次提醒議員，本會現在要辯論的不是譴責議案，而是"不採取行動"的議案。
I have to remind Members once again that this Council is now debating on the no further action motion not the censure motion
辯論該議案時，議員不應詳細討論譴責議案所述的指控內容，或有關指控是否成立，而應解釋為何支持或不支持將譴責議案所述的事宜，交付調查委員會處理。
In the course of debate Members should not dwell on the accusations set out in the censure motion or the validity of such accusations . Instead Members should explain whether they are for or against referring the matters in the censure motion to an investigation committee
主席，我想市民會理解我們今天辯論的是，立法會是否需要進一步處理有關事宜。
President I think the public understand that we are debating on the need for the Legislative Council to further deal with the issue
主席，我認為在該場合，何君堯議員的整個發言會帶來很嚴重的問題。
President I think the overall remarks made by Dr Junius HO at the rally will cause a very serious problem
我們知道，新界確實有很多傳聞，有很多江湖的暴力也在那裏發生。
As we all know the New Territories are full of rumours and a number of gang - related violence have happened there
所以，屏山鄉鄉事委員會主席曾樹和在台上說"殺"字，其實與一般人說這個字，所傳達的效果並不相同。
TSANG Shu - wo is not an ordinary people hence his utterance of the word kill as Chairman of Ping Shan Rural Committee will serve very different effect
主席，以我本人為例，我真的很認真認為曾樹和未必是說笑，連帶何君堯議員立即附和說"無赦"，以及其後的補充說明，我會認為這件事情本身是刑事行為，是嚴重的問題。
President to me I sincerely think that he may not be joking at all . Equally I will consider Dr Junius HOs echoing this kill remark immediately by saying without mercy and his further explanations a criminal offence and a serious problem
主席，當天出現"殺無赦"言論後，其實社會已發生多次事件......
President a number of incidents have happened in society following the killing without mercy remark
但同時，我想大家也不會否認，香港社會近年多了很多憤怒的中年。
But it is also undeniable that recently we can also see an increasing number of frustrated middle - age people in society
據我理解，那些憤怒中年是何君堯議員的核心支持者，或者說很多這類憤怒中年也支持何君堯議員。
As far as I understand these frustrated middle - age people are the core supporters of Dr Junius HO or to put it another way most of them support Dr Junius HO
他們在這一兩年內，在不同場合所做的事，舉例來說，黃之峰、羅冠聰和我去台灣，就時代力量等成立的關注香港的團體，我們到那裏發言。
What they have done in various occasions over the past one or two years? . I cite an example . Earlier on I flied with Joshua WONG and Nathan LAW to Taiwan to make speeches at the establishment ceremony of a Hong Kong concern caucus set up by the New Power Party and some other parties
所以，這種很壞的影響隨着立法會一直不處理這個問題而繼續漫延、惡化下去。
The non - action of the Legislative Council will let the negative effects spread over and aggravate
今天就是一個很重要的機會，讓我們有機會辯論究竟是否通過陳克勤議員的議案。
Todays debate gives us an important opportunity to discuss Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion which calls for inattention heedlessness and non - action
代理主席，第三，我會指出為何立法會需要有跟進行動，成立調查委員會，而不是好像陳克勤議員所說事件已過氣，不要浪費議會時間處理這件事。
Deputy President third despite Mr CHAN Hak - kans description of the issue as outdated and the dealing of it a waste of time for the Council I will explain why the Legislative Council has to set up an investigation committee to pursue the issue
在整個政府的體系裏，當法官被侮辱，種族歧視，香港大律師公會及司法機構會發表意見，之後律政司會有行動，警方調查後就會作出拘捕。
For cases of insult to or racial discrimination against foreign judges we can see comments from the Hong Kong Bar Association as well as the Judiciary actions from the Department of Justice and investigations and arrests by the Police in the entire government system
把侮辱裁判官錢禮的話與何君堯議員在集會上一連串的發言比較一下，放在一起看，就會看到兩者並無甚麼分別。
If we put the insulting remarks hurled at Judge Ms Bina Chainrai and the rally remarks made by Dr Junius HO together for comparison we cannot see any difference between the two
當刑事執法單位不知為何，而我沒辦法問清楚究竟為何不處理、不追究、厚此薄彼。
I do not know and there is also no way for me to ask why the criminal enforcement authority refuses to take actions and pursue the issue . This is unfair and discriminatory
不知是否因為憤怒中年是普通人就要承受後果，不好意思了，但尊貴的議員就"刑不上大夫"，已經讓市民有這樣的印象。
Does it mean the frustrated middle - age woman has to bear the consequences of her insulting remarks because she is just an ordinary citizen? . How about the Honourable Members? . I am sorry but Members will be immune from prosecution just as scholar - officials should be immune from penalty
現在立法會就這件事情提出一個跟進行動，我覺得議員基本要堅守這條界線，當刑事執法當局不知為何不處理的時候，立法會應該有自己的尊嚴，不可以容許立法會議員公然煽動暴力，不可以令到這種暴力的政治文化無論在哪個陣營漫延下去。
When the Legislative Council is proposing to follow up the rally remarks now I call on Members to defend our bottom line . When the criminal enforcement authority refuses to deal with the issue out of unknown reasons the Legislative Council should have its dignity and should not allow its Members to publicly incite violence . Whatever political affiliations we belong to we should curb the proliferation of this violent political culture
不要再說你們也有人很暴力，不能這樣"一竹篙打一船人"，亦不能轉移視線，反政府的有憤怒青年，不等於憤怒中年就可以作出暴力的行為，更不等於何君堯議員可以煽動他們攻擊那些討論或主張"港獨"的人。
Neither painting all people with the same brush nor distracting peoples attention is helpful . Some frustrated youth are anti - government does not necessarily mean the frustrated midlife can act violently . Nor does this mean Dr Junius HO can incite them to attack people who discuss or advocate Hong Kong independence
我不明白何君堯議員是否為了不讓支持者對他失望，還是甚麼或面子的原因，他多個月來從沒有就此事作出正式的道歉。
Dr Junius HO has not offered any formal apology months after his remarks . I am not sure if it is because he does not wish to let his supporters down or because he is afraid of losing face
如果陳健波議員也認為不妥當的話，何君堯議員可以就不妥當的言論道歉，為何不可以這樣呢？
But if even Mr CHAN Kin - por finds his remarks inappropriate Dr Junius HO should better apologize for his inappropriate remarks . Why does he not do so?
何君堯議員稍後可能會發言，希望他願意清清楚楚就其言論道歉而不是說甚麼造成不便、引起誤會。
In case Dr Junius HO will speak later on I hope he would clearly apologize for his remarks not for any inconvenience or misunderstanding caused
所以，我很希望何君堯議員可以考慮這個行動。
I really hope that Dr Junius HO will consider doing so
代理主席，我當然反對陳克勤議員提出這項議案，他要求不處理毛孟靜議員所動議譴責何君堯議員的議案。
Deputy President I definitely oppose this motion moved by Mr CHAN Hak - kan . He demanded that no further action be taken on the motion moved by Ms Claudia MO to censure Dr Junius HO
可是，所謂"很久以前"，也不過是指2017年9月17日而已。
Yet what they called a very long time ago actually refers to 17 September 2017
因此，我們的言行舉止，正正應該能反映社會民意、民情，甚至是社會質素。
Hence our demeanor must serve to reflect social opinion public sentiment and even social quality
我們可否說過時？
Can we call it outdated?
我們的社會今天充斥着這麼多暴力事件，更有進身立法會的最高民意代表，身為尊貴的議員，竟可口出狂言，在公開場合公然說"不殺了這些人又如何？
Our society is replete with violence incidents nowadays . Worse still a highest - level representative of public opinion who is elected a Member of this Council and become an Honourable Colleague of ours has breathed out such ravings on a public occasion that why not kill such advocates?
"假 如連這事也可容忍的話，便可見得香港的文明水平是如何的低落了。
The degradation of moral enlightenment of this city can then be confirmed if this is tolerable
如果我們今天不立即處理這項議案儘管這項議案一定不獲通過，但至少也要向公眾發出清楚的信息：我們對此等事情絕不容忍。
If this motion is not immediately dealt with today―although it will definitely not be approved we have to at least send out to the public a clear message We will never tolerate this kind of things
政府也懂得喊口號，說甚麼"家庭暴力零容忍"。
And even the Government chants slogans like Zero tolerance of domestic violence
但是，他說出這些話時，有否想過會對下一代及年輕人有甚麼示範作用呢？
Yet did he ever think of what kind of example he had set for the next generation and the young people when making such remarks?
我真的希望何君堯議員收回煽動暴力的言論，向公眾道歉，他應要站出來清楚作出交代，暴力是絕不能容忍的。
I truly wish that Dr Junius HO will take back his violence - inciting remarks and apologize to the public . He should come out to give a clear account of the incident . We will definitely not tolerate any violence anyway
但是，大家要明白，何君堯議員已不止一次在多個場合，破壞公眾對整個立法會的形象。
However we need to pay attention that Dr Junius HO has more than once damaged the image of the Legislative Council on several occasions
我以往覺得律師會會長都是一些受過高深教育及熟悉法例的人，知道說話不可以太隨便。
I used to think that Presidents of The Law Society of Hong Kong are well - educated people familiar with the law who understand that they cannot be too casual with what they say
我覺得，任何有少許良知或少許教育的人，都知道在說出這麼難聽的說話後，便不應該再"死撐"。
I think any conscientious and educated persons should know that they should stop putting up any more lame excuses after having made such unpleasant remarks
正如毛孟靜議員在她的議案附表中指出，何君堯議員在公開場合發表鼓吹殺人及煽動暴力言論，是破壞立法會的莊嚴，亦是藐視立法會的職能及權力。
As stated by Ms Claudia MO in the Schedule to her motion Dr Junius HOs public speech which advocated killing and incited violence damages the dignity of the Legislative Council and shows contempt of the powers and functions of the Council
例如納粹時代的希特拉、祖國的毛主席，在他們的管治下，數以千萬計的人的性命被犧牲。
Under the rule of HITLER in the Nazi era or Chairman MAO of our country tens of millions of lives were lost
這些管治者不是拿着槍殺人，亦沒有拿着刀斬別人的人頭，他們很多時都是透過其言論，宣傳及鼓吹不文明、不理性的行為，而令下面的人跟從。
These rulers did not kill with guns; they did not hack peoples heads off with knives either . They mostly made people follow them through their words or uncivilized and insensible acts
有些人說不可以太高估何君堯議員，他只不過是建制派的其中一員。
Some people say that we should not overestimate Dr Junius HO for he is only a member of the pro - establishment camp
大家還記得他發表了該言論後，建制派中很多人也稍為遠離他，我記得當時有些人跟他劃清界線，有些人不理睬他。
We should still remember that many people in the pro - establishment camp distanced themselves from him after he made that remark . I remember some people disassociated with him and ignored him
民建聯或陳克勤議員很多時候在我們面前也是正義凜然的，他們譴責暴力又說其他人不對。
DAB or Mr CHAN Hak - kan often behaves righteously in front of us . They censure people for their violent acts and point out their wrongdoings
不過，如果建制派議員投票支持陳克勤議員的議案，便等同鼓吹、接受甚至認同何君堯議員如此離譜的言論。
However if pro - establishment Members choose to support Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion their support is no difference from advocating accepting or even agreeing with Dr Junius HOs outrageous remark
這是重要的，因為這是向你們的選民及所有市民帶出一項信息，在你們眼中，何君堯議員的"殺無赦"、煽動暴力等不負責任、不恰當的言論均是可以接受的。
This is important because this will deliver a message to their voters and the public that they accept irresponsible and inappropriate remarks such as Dr Junius HOs kill without mercy remark that incites violence
這令我覺得建制派和保皇黨持有不同的標準。
This makes me feel that the pro - establishment camp and the royalist camp have double standards
例如作為一位法律界人士，他在法庭拍照，又在"城市論壇"說自己是社會工作者，還說出一些侮辱女性的言論。
He has numerous past examples of similar behaviours . For instance as a legal practitioner he was found taking pictures in courts; he claimed himself a social worker and made an abusive speech on women at the programme City Forum
我覺得作為法律界人士、律師的他要明白，立法會所有議案或譴責議案也不是"玩泥沙"，但他那種態度、思維的方法真的很嚇人，令人擔心，有點兒與國內一些犯錯的人希望私下處理的手法相似。
I hold that as a Member from the legal sector or as a lawyer he should know that motions or censure motions of the Legislative Council are not a childs play . The way he acts and thinks is indeed very frightening and worrying . He is like people in the Mainland who prefer settling wrongdoings in private
我覺得作為立法會議員是需要向公眾負責的。
As a Legislative Council Member we should be accountable to the public
我們曾讀出誓詞，作出種種承諾，特別是遵守法律這部分，所以，我們今次在處理譴責何議員議案的時候，不能夠接受陳克勤議員所提出的議案的。
When we swore in as Members we made several undertakings including to act in full accordance with the law . Hence we have to proceed with the censure motion on Dr HO and we cannot accept the motion moved by Mr CHAN Hak - kan
主席，何君堯議員今次的言論雖然引起社會部分人士的不安，但尚未嚴重至需要在立法會提出譴責，我認為譴責議案在立法會內應該是重要的武器，不應該隨便提出。
President although the remarks made by Dr Junius HO this time around have caused discomfort to some people they are not serious enough to warrant a censure motion in the Legislative Council . I consider a censure motion is a weapon of utmost importance in the Legislative Council and it should not be used randomly
何議員在公開集會中發表的言論，字眼並不適當，難免有人將它解讀為煽動暴力，有市民感到不安也是正常的事。
The wordings used in the remarks made by Dr HOs at the public assembly are inappropriate . It is just natural for people to construe them an incitement to violence and therefore feel discomfort
不過，何君堯議員已經公開解釋，他當時的言論並非煽動暴力，更不是要殺人。
Nevertheless Dr Junius HO has explained publicly that his remarks were not trying to incite violence or killing people . I believe Dr HO has gained certain profound feelings this time around
我相信何議員今次已有深刻的體會，原本他很努力地推動"反港獨"和追究戴耀廷的責任，獲得不少支持，但因為這一句被人趁機得逞，一下子被人轉移視線，反而受到輿論的批評，"放生了"真正應該被譴責的戴耀廷，其實很可惜。
Originally his enthusiasm in promoting the opposition to the independence of Hong Kong and ascertaining the responsibilities of Prof Benny TAI has won a lot of support . However some people have successfully diverted peoples attention by taking advantage of his remarks . Now he is being criticized by public opinions while Prof Benny TAI the one who should be censured is let go
我希望大家反思，我們今天要求批評何議員的言論偏激，但大家有否想過，立法會議會中早已習慣使用偏激的言語，甚至使用言語暴力，有不少議員動輒對官員或議員人身攻擊，惡形惡相，尖酸刻薄，極盡侮辱之能事。
What a pity . I hope Members will rethink that today we are criticizing Dr HOs radical remarks but have we ever thought of the fact that we have gotten used to the use of radical language or even verbal violence? . Quite a number of Members have even come down to personal attack at officials or other Members
為甚麼一定要使用粗鄙的言語手法，一味人身攻擊？
Why should they resort to vulgar language and insist on personal attacks?
這些行為不單"教壞"小朋友，亦會傳染社會，以為恃着兇惡，便可以做任何事，我相信市民早已厭惡這些行為。
These behaviours would not only set a bad example for children they would contaminate our society and had made people thought that they could do anything if they were ferocious enough . I believe the public already have a loathing of such behaviours
我希望各位議員能夠反思。
I hope Members can rethink about that
所以，我支持陳克勤議員的這項議案。
For that reason I support Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion
何君堯議員去年9月在一個"反港獨"、反冷血、反偽學的公開吶喊大會上，批評香港大學法律系副教授戴耀廷策動佔中時所發表的一些言論。
At the anti - independence anti - cold - bloodedness anti - bogus academic rally held on September last year Dr Junius HO criticized some of the remarks made by Prof Benny TAI Associate Professor of the Department of Law of the University of Hong Kong during the Occupy Central movement
何君堯議員當時指戴耀廷教授是"港獨"思潮的罪魁禍首，要求港大把戴教授辭退。
Back then accusing Prof Benny TAI as the chief culprit of advocating the ideology of Hong Kong independence Dr HO demanded that Prof TAI be sacked by the University of Hong Kong
何君堯議員更當場附和屏山鄉事委員會主席曾樹和先生的言論，表示要殺"港獨"者。
In addition Dr HO echoed the speech of Mr TSANG Shu - wo Chairman of the Ping Shan Rural Committee who suggested the killing of Hong Kong independence advocates right at the scene of the rally
其後他接受電台訪問，再次形容"港獨"者是敵人，所以殺他們沒有問題。
Subsequently he once again described the Hong Kong independence advocates to be enemies of the city and it would be perfectly fine to kill them
代理主席，何議員公開對戴教授或持"港獨"立場的人士發表這種我認為明顯具煽動性，特別是煽動暴力的言論，事實上會引起社會廣泛的關注。
His such remarks are crystal clear indeed . Deputy President the remarks made in public by Dr HO that in my opinion obviously meant to incite violence in particular against Prof TAI or supporters of Hong Kong independence have actually aroused wide public concerns in society
我認為此舉已嚴重超越立法會議員的道德，以及他身為律師的專業底線。
I think his such acts had grossly contravened the moral code of Members of this Council as well as the code of professional conduct of lawyers