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市民會很合理地提出質疑，究竟水炮車，或警方美其名稱為"人群管理的特別用途車"，對於市民的影響有多大。
It is only reasonable for members of the public to query what impacts water cannon vehicles or specialized crowd management vehicles―the nice name given by the Police―will have on members of the public
我們自然也會比較，相比警方現時擁有的其他選擇，包括警棍和其他類型的武器，水炮車是否更有效，效用較大或較小。
We will also make a comparison to see whether water cannon vehicles will be more efficient and whether they will be more effective or less than the existing options available to the Police including batons and other kinds of weapons
在2015年，前任保安局局長李少光在電台訪問時，形容使用水炮車驅趕群眾較警棍造成的傷害少，因為示威者最多只是濕身或滑倒。
During a radio interview in 2015 Ambrose LEE the former Secretary for Security described that physical harm caused by water cannon vehicles would be less than that of batons in the course of dispersing protesters because at the most water cannon vehicles would wet the clothes of protesters or cause them to slip
主席，毛孟靜議員根據《議事規則》第49B條動議譴責何君堯議員的議案，背後的理念是甚麼，其實很清楚，就是根據《基本法》第七十九條，要解除何君堯議員的職務。
President Ms Claudia MO moved the censure motion against Dr Junius HO in accordance with section 49B1A of the Rules of Procedure what was the motive behind it? . In fact it is very clear it was to remove Dr Junius Ho from his office according to Article 79 of the Basic Law
因為一句失言，便要褫奪一位議員的資格，我認為這樣做不勻稱，亦是小題大做。
I think to disqualify a Member for a single slip of tongue is unfair and making a fuss over trivial matter
我剛才聽到很多反對派議員的發言，他們不同意我不得就譴責議案採取任何行動的這項議案。
I just heard many members from the opposition party said that they disagreed with my motion of no further action be taken on the censure motion
他們說了很多何君堯議員的不是，但卻沒有說為甚麼他們支持用《基本法》第七十九條來褫奪一位議員的資格。
They blamed Dr Junius HO a lot but did not mention why they support using Article 79 of the Basic Law to disqualify a Member
為甚麼出手這麼重，因為一句失言，就要褫奪一位議員的資格呢？
Why did they make such severe move to disqualify a Member for a single slip of tongue?
我記得剛才泛民主派有議員發言表示，每個人都有機會講錯說話，泛民主派曾講錯說話，建制派議員亦曾講錯說話。
I recall a pro - democratic Member indicated just now in his speech that everyone would have the opportunity of speaking the wrong things the pan - democrats would say wrongly and so would the pro - establishment Members
因為一句說話， 我們今天和昨天總共花了6個小時討論，如果真的獲得通過的話，可能還要再花數十小時成立一個調查委員會進行調查，這是否值得呢？
Just for the sake of a single sentence then we spent a total of six hours yesterday and today on discussing it . If it is really being passed we may have to spend another several tens of hours on forming an investigation committee to look into it is it worthwhile?
市民可能反過來問我們，立法會議員是否很空閒。
The public may conversely ask us whether the Members of the Legislative Council are having plenty of time
主席，我看完毛孟靜議員的議案，想起一個佛經故事。
President after going through the motion of Ms Claudia MO I think of a story from the Buddhist scriptures
有兩夫妻鬥氣，鬥不說話，他們說："勝的一方可以有一塊餅"。
A couple who was having a quarrel contended to stop talking . They said the one who wins can have a piece of cake
在他們互雙鬥氣期間，突然有一個賊入屋，這個賊對太太做了一些輕薄行為，然後丈夫便大聲："哈哈哈，我勝了"，因為這太太大聲說："你為甚麼不救我？
In the course of their quarrel a thief broke into their house . The thief did some frivolous acts against the wife and the husband said loudly Ha ha ha . I win because the wife said loudly why didnt you rescue me?
主席，這個故事說的是，因小失大。
President the story tells us about losing the greater for the less
情況就像現在這個議會般，因為一句說話，花五六個小時，甚至乎未來要花數十小時，浪費我們這麼多資源、時間去討論，是否值得呢？
The situation is liked this Council now spending five or six hours or even likely to spend several tens of hours in the future for just one single sentence wasting so much resources and time to discuss is it worthwhile?
我相信大家心裏有數。
I believe we all know the score
我希望泛民主派議員，不要好像小學生般："老師，他告我一狀，我告他一狀"，要真真正正把時間用在討論我們的正經事情上。
I hope that the pro - democratic members would stop acting like a primary student He accuses me and so I accuse him they should really put the time on discussing our formal issues
我就議案提出待決議題之前，我想提醒議員，根據《議事規則》第49B條，陳克勤議員的議案如獲得通過，本會便不得就毛孟靜議員的譴責議案再採取任何行動；如被否決，譴責議案所述的事宜便須交付調查委員會處理。
Before I put to you the question on the motion I wish to remind Members that according to Rule 49B2A of the Rules of Procedure if Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion is passed the Council shall not take any further action on Ms Claudia MOs censure motion; if it is negatived the matter stated in the censure motion shall be referred to an investigation committee
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：陳克勤議員根據《議事規則》第49B條動議的議案，予以通過。
I now put the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr CHAN Hak - kan under Rule 49B2A of the Rules of Procedure be passed
主席，我聽到張超雄議員剛才在發言中提到保安事務委員會。
President I heard Dr Fernando CHEUNG mentioned the Panel on Security in his speech just now
由於這會牽涉到整個事務委員會的運作，我必須在此澄清，以及讓大家能在稍後作出較為客觀的討論。
As this has something to do with the overall operation of the Panel it is incumbent upon me to make clarification here so as to facilitate a more objective discussion among Members later on
事務委員會在收到張議員和邵家臻議員的來函後，已立即作出處理，並把信件轉交保安當局。
Upon receiving the joint letter from Dr Fernando CHEUNG and Mr SHIU Ka - chun the Panel responded promptly and forwarded the letter to the security authorities
第二，事務委員會在剛過去的1月9日會議上，同意安排全體立法會議員參觀懲教院所，可惜張超雄議員當天亦不在席，所以便不知道會有這項安排。
Second the Panel has agreed at its latest meeting held on 9 January that arrangements would be made for all Members of this Council to visit correctional institutions . Regrettably Dr CHEUNG was not aware of such an activity since he was also absent that day
因此，我想藉此機會，告知各位議員事務委員會的決定，以便大家在討論時能掌握更全面的客觀資料。
Hence I would like to take this opportunity to inform all Members of the Panels such decision so as to facilitate the discussion where Members have a good grasp of more comprehensive and objective information
主席，張超雄議員今天提出這項議案的目的，是要傳召懲教署署長及助理署長來立法會就一些在囚人士的指控接受質詢。
President the purpose of Dr Fernando CHEUNGs motion today is to summon the Commissioner of Correctional Services and the Assistant Commissioner of Correctional Services to attend before the Council to answer questions on the allegations from some prisoners
我在發言前先要強調一件事，所有政府部門及所有公職人員，如果他們做得不好，有行政失當或有違規違紀的行為，便必須受到批評，亦都必須要改正及接受處分。懲教署當然不例外。
Before I speak on this subject I have to emphasize that if any government department or public officer is not doing well is involved in maladministration non - compliances or disciplinary offences the department or the officer concerned shall be subject to criticism has to be corrected and penalized and there is no exception to the Correctional Services Department CSD of course
但是，如果我們沒有基本的事實，連提出這項議案的議員也說是"在外面聽到的"，我們是否有必要根據這個在外面聽到的信息，而傳召部門首長到立法會呢？
But if the allegations are not based on facts and even the Member who moves this motion also says that he heard about them from outside is it necessary for us to summon the Heads of Department to this Council on the basis of this message heard outside?
我留意到很多泛民主派同事引述的一些虐囚個案，都是來自某個媒體的報道，當然，他們已經說了很多，我亦不會重複。
I note that many Members from the pan - democratic camp have quoted some cases of mistreatment of prisoners which all come from the coverage of a certain media . Sure enough they have already spoken a lot about the cases and I am not going to repeat the details
但是，我也同意局長剛才所說，如果真的發生這些事情，除了向媒體披露外，更重要的便是向執法機關舉報。
But I agree with the Secretary that in case such things happen apart from disclosing to the media what is more important is to report to the law enforcement agencies
我相信香港的執法部門一定會認真及嚴肅處理。
I believe that the law enforcement departments in Hong Kong will definitely deal with them squarely and seriously
主席，我亦想藉此機會回應剛才有份發言的泛民主派議員的一些言論。
President I would also like to take this opportunity to respond to some remarks made by the pan - democratic Members who spoke earlier
我這兩天也很少贊同毛孟靜議員，不過她剛才說了一句話，我覺得都是事實。
During this meeting in these two days I seldom agree with the arguments of Ms Claudia MO but I think the comment that she made just now has reflected the truth
她剛才說她也探訪過監獄，也認為各方面都OK，這句說話我也有同感。
She said she had visited the prison and thought that it was all right in various aspects . And I share her view
第二，胡志偉議員剛才說，在囚人士得不到申訴，我覺得是不正確的。
Secondly Mr WU Chi - wai said earlier that prisoners did not have any chance to lodge complaints . I think this is not true
作為立法會議員，我在申訴部當值時，也處理過一些在囚人士提出的投訴，我亦有指令過秘書處職員跟進，而秘書處職員亦很認真地處理。
As a Legislative Council Member when I was on duty at the Public Complaints Office I have dealt with some complaints lodged by prisoners . I have also asked the staff of the Secretariat to follow up the complaints and they have dealt with them seriously
第三，我要回應的，就是鄭松泰議員剛才說，太平紳士制度沒有用。
Thirdly I have to respond to the remark made earlier by Dr CHENG Chung - tai that the JP system was useless
我記得有一次，我約了一位太平紳士朋友在下午1時午膳，等到 2時半，他還未到，他的秘書一直通知我他在途中。
I recall that I once asked a JP to have lunch with me at 1col00 pm but at about 2col30 pm he still did not appear while his secretary kept on telling me that he was on his way
我不是用這個例子來說赤柱監獄有很多處理不善的地方，而是要告訴議員，現時的太平紳士巡視制度是有用的。
I am not quoting this example to say that many aspects in Stanley Prison are not properly handled but am only telling Members that the existing JP system is effective
囚犯如果覺得受到不公道的對待，在太平紳士巡視期間，他們可以提出申訴，而太平紳士亦必須認真處理。
If a prisoner feels that he has been unfairly treated during the JP visits they can lodge complaints while the JPs also have to deal with them squarely
就這些情況，我問過其他在太平紳士職位之上的人，他們亦同樣遇到。
I have asked other people with positions higher than JPs and they have also met similar situations
所以，如果說現有向太平紳士申訴的制度沒有用，我覺得似乎不是一個事實。
Hence when people say that the existing JP system is useless I do not think that they are reflecting the truth
主席，我當然不反對改善在囚人士的福利，因為我覺得他們必須得到人道的對待。
President I certainly am not against improving the well - being of inmates as I feel that they should be treated humanely
但是，這項要求與傳召懲教署署長和助理署長來立法會，似乎沒有直接關係。
However it seems that this request is not directly related to summoning the Commissioner of Correctional Services and the Assistant Commissioner of Correctional Services to attend before the Council
我亦引述楊岳橋議員剛才的發言，他也不相信每位懲教人員都有問題，簡單而言，其實他也認同懲教署的工作是正面的。
As Mr Alvin YEUNG also mentioned just now he does not believe that there are problems with each and every correctional officer . In brief he actually also recognizes that the work of CSD is positive
只是如果有問題，可能真是有一些害群之馬，絕對不是好像一些議員所說，有一個虐囚的文化存在。
The problem if there is any is only caused by some black sheep and the culture of violence against inmates as mentioned by some Members does not exist at all
所以，如果真的遇到個別的虐囚情況，最佳方法都是報警。
Hence in case there are isolated incidents of inmates being mistreated the best approach is to report to the Police
我知道張超雄議員特別緊張在囚人士的福利，我亦很尊重，所以，我留意到他不單在我的保安事務委員會內提出要討論這項議題，他在兒童權利小組委員會中亦有跟進，亦親自巡視過這些監獄。
As I know Dr Fernando CHEUNG is particularly concerned about the well - being of prisoners and I highly respect what he has done . I notice that apart from proposing a discussion on this subject in my Panel on Security he has also followed up the matter in the Subcommittee on Childrens Rights and has personally visited the prisons concerned
我亦知道立法會申訴部在未來一兩星期，亦會開會跟進。
I also know that in the following one to two weeks the Public Complaints Office of the Legislative Council will convene a meeting to follow up the issue
所以，既然我們已經循數個渠道在跟進，我們今天是否有需要傳召懲教署署長及助理署長來立法會呢？
Hence since we already have a few channels to follow up on the subject matter do we really need to summon the Commissioner of Correctional Services and the Assistant Commissioner of Correctional Services to attend before the Council?
更重要的是，我覺得張議員今天提出這項傳召議案，在時間上不是太好。
More importantly I think the timing of moving this motion by Dr CHEUNG today is not proper
如果他在其他時間提出要求傳召懲教署署長來跟進，大家可能會覺得，他因為在數個途徑也碰壁，所以一定要傳召懲教署署長。
If he had asked at other time to summon the Commissioner of Correctional Services to follow up on the matter we might have thought that he surely needed to summon the Commissioner of Correctional Services as he had met obstacles in other channels
但是，他現在與其他議員一起提出8項議案，要求傳召8位官員，大家便會有一個疑問或許這只是我的感覺究竟他是否真的要處理這件事，還是為了"拉布"或做其他政治動作呢？
Nevertheless now that he and other Members propose eight motions together asking to summon eight public officers we may have a query―perhaps this is only my own thinking―of whether he really means to deal with this matter or is doing this for filibustering or other political purpose
所以，我在此重申，我們現存的制度有很多途徑，可以跟進在囚人士的福利事宜，我不覺得現在有需要傳召懲教署署長或助理署長來立法會進行公開質詢。
Therefore I reiterate here that since our existing system provides many channels to follow up on the well - being of prisoners I do not think that we presently have the need to summon the Commissioner of Correctional Services or the Assistant Commissioner of Correctional Services to this Council to attend an open question and answer session
主席，今天梁繼昌議員根據《基本法》第七十三條動議議案，就警方購買水炮車的事宜傳召警務處處長到立法會作出解釋。
President Mr Kenneth LEUNG has moved today a motion under Article 73 of the Basic Law to summon the Commissioner of Police to the Legislative Council to elucidate the Polices purchase of vehicles equipped with water cannon
這些全部都是很簡單的資料，梁議員可以書面質詢或口頭質詢的形式要求保安局局長回應。
These are all very simple data . Mr LEUNG can request the response from the Secretary for Security by means of a written or oral question
市民大眾看得清楚，這基本上是濫用會議程序。
Members of the public see clearly that this is basically an abuse of Council procedures
當然朱凱廸議員剛才也分析得頗準確，因為我們現在討論的重點，不是是否要購買水炮車或水炮車的性能、影響等，而是應否傳召處長出席立法會會議。
Certainly Mr CHU Hoi - dick has also made quite an accurate analysis just now . The focus of our discussion here is not on whether we are to purchase water cannon vehicles or the performance impacts etc . of such vehicles but rather on whether the Commissioner should be summoned to attend before this Council
主席，我因此不贊同梁繼昌議員的議案，因為如果我們每次都根據《基本法》第七十三條傳召官員出席立法會會議，基本上是繞過立法會現時行之有效的機制。
President I thus do not agree to Mr Kenneth LEUNGs motion . If we summon officials to attend before the Council pursuant to Article 73 of the Basic Law every time we are basically bypassing the existing effective mechanism of the Council
主席，我發言支持陳克勤議員的議案，反對就毛孟靜議員的譴責議案再採取任何行動。
President I speak in support of the motion proposed by Mr CHAN Han - kan objecting to any further action to be taken on the censure motion moved by Ms Claudia MO
我想在發言中表明，而且相信大家亦知道，我曾公開多次表明我反對任何暴力言行，反對任何推動暴力的行動。
I would like to state clearly in my speech and I believe you all know I have indicated many times on public occasions that I object to any violent words and deeds as well as any actions that promote violence
當日何君堯議員說出"殺"字，我聽到後也感到很愕然，其後亦曾公開表示不贊成何君堯議員繼續使用這個"殺"字。
I was also shocked to hear Dr Junius HO saying the word kill on the day and later I indicated in public that I did not approve of Dr Junius HO using that word kill any more
事實上，何君堯議員當日說出"殺"字，我相信他的解釋，他其實是在"反港獨"，是以這個詞語作出真情的表達，抒發要終止"港獨"之意。
In fact Dr Junius HO used the word kill on the day and I believe his explanation that he actually made a heartfelt expression of anti - Hong Kong independence by using this word conveying the meaning that Hong Kong independence should be halted
我不相信他想鼓吹殺人，也不相信他真的會殺人，更不相信他說完這數個字後，會有人真的聽他的話去殺人。
I believe he did not want to advocate killing nor he would really kill someone . I all the more believe that nobody would really go and kill someone after hearing those few words he said
大家會否覺得這有點過火，亦很無謂呢？
Do we consider that this has gone too far and pretty senseless?
因此，我不可以支持毛孟靜議員的議案。
I therefore cannot support the motion of Ms Claudia MO
我知道他不是這個意思，但事實上也曾多次對何君堯議員說，希望他作為議員，以至其他所有議員，都應以身作則，在用詞用字時更加小心謹慎。
I know he did not mean that but in fact I have told Dr Junius HO many times that I hope that he as a Member and all other Members should set a good example with their own conduct by using words in a more careful and prudent manner
剛才何議員引述早前被撤銷資格的議員所說的一句粗言，我聽到後也非常反感，所以我也對何議員說，希望下次在立法會即使要加以 引用，也不要公然在立法會粗言穢語。
Mr HO quoted a moment ago an abusive remark made by a Member who was disqualified earlier . I also find it repulsive after hearing that so I would like to ask Mr HO not to undisguisedly use abusive language in the Legislative Council next time even if he has to quote something in the Legislative Council
我認為以事論事是立法會議員應有之責，而不應執着一些字眼，無限上綱上線。
I am of the view that it is due responsibility of a Legislative Council Member to comment on various issues in a matter - of - fact manner instead of picking on some words and unlimitedly overplaying the matter
我更希望所有議員都能以身作則，切實地反暴力，推動社會大眾更有同理心，己所不欲，勿施於人。
I all the more hope that all Members can lead by good personal example against violence in a practical manner promoting empathy among people in the society . Do not do to others what you do not want them to act in return
就着這件事，很多議員均曾提出很多泛民反對派議員所作發言，充分顯示他們持雙重標準。
On this issue a number of Members have quoted the remarks made by many opponents in the pan - democratic camp indicating fully that they have adopted double standards
他們一方面譴責何君堯議員所用的某一字眼，但對於其他曾在社會上出現的過火言論，無論是中大學生的一些說話，甚至由佔中至現在，很多人在網上或實際行動時說出的一些恐嚇警務人員的字眼，例如要"殺人全家"、"強姦他人的家人"，甚至"滅門"、"全家落地獄"等，卻都未聽見泛民反對派議員曾提出任何譴責。
On the one hand they censure Dr Junius HO for using a particular word but on the other hand they have never condemned other extremely disgusting expressions that appeared in the society including some remarks made by students of The Chinese University of Hong Kong or some threatening remarks made by many people to police officers online or during actual actions from Occupy Central until now such as kill the whole family rape family member of others even exterminate the whole family the whole family goes to hell and so forth
我認為行事不應雙重標準，如果他們真的要反暴力，真的認為要推動和平，便應一視同仁。
I do not think one should adopt such double standards . If they truly oppose violence and really consider the promotion of peace necessary they should treat all equally
我希望亦認為所有議員都應有道德勇氣，即使面對的是自己的支持者，但如果他們使用充滿仇恨的語言及作出暴力行為，也應勸諭他們放低仇恨和暴力，而不應鼓吹仇恨和暴力。
I hope and consider that all Members should have moral courage . Even if they are facing their own supporters if these supporters use words that are full of hatred and take violent actions they should advise them to set aside hatred and violence rather than advocating such
剛才何俊賢議員也提到，很多泛民反對派議員提出的一些行動，無論是違法佔中、旺角暴亂等，均由於他們富有影響力，只消三數句說話便推動了一群年青人以身試法。
As mentioned by Mr Steven HO just now the reason why some pan - democratic Members of the opposition camp have proposed some actions such as the unlawful Occupy Central the Mong Kok riot and so forth is that they have strong influence . Only three remarks or so have driven a group of young people to break the law . Driven by a sentence that read achieving justice by violating the law many young people took illegal actions
一句"違法達義"，令很多年青人作出違法行為，甚至被監禁，影響了一生前途，亦帶起了社會衝擊法治，以為為了民主自由和公義，便甚麼違法事情也可以做的風氣。
Some were even imprisoned which would affect their whole life and future . Such actions also led the society to undermine the rule of law . They assumed that they could do anything illegal for the sake of democratic freedom and justice
這種風氣直接影響香港的治安，亦影響香港的未來。
Such trend not only directly affected the public order in Hong Kong but also the future of Hong Kong
我希望泛民反對派議員在譴責他人時撫心自問，他們又有否發揮應有的角色？
I hope that Members in the pan - democratic camp will ask themselves honestly whether they have fulfilled their due roles when condemning others
主席，我仍然相信香港需要善良的力量。
President I still believe Hong Kong needs the power of goodness
我參選時的口號是"上善若水"，因我一直相信只有善念、善行、善言，才是正道，才可以驅趕仇恨，讓香港重回正軌。
The slogan I used during my election campaign was the greatest good is like water because I have all along believed that only good thoughts good deeds and good words are the right way that can eliminate hatred bringing Hong Kong back to the right track
所以，我期望在這個議事廳，無論是泛民還是建制派議員，都能有勇氣呼籲支持者放低仇恨，放低歧見，一同為我們愛的香港、為香港的未來、為我們的下一代做一個好榜樣，大家一同走上仁愛之路。
So I hope that Members in this Chamber no matter whether they come from the pan - democratic camp or the pro - establishment camp have the courage to call upon our supporters to set aside hatred and set aside discrimination and make concerted efforts to set a good example for Hong Kong which we all love for the future of Hong Kong and for our future generations so that we can walk hand in hand on the road of love
我反對的原因，首先，我覺得這會否與有人濫用我們《議事規則》的程序，插隊提出議案討論，而且這只不過是他們"拉布"的手段，事實是議會正常運作真的受到影響。
The reason for my opposition is that first of all I doubt if this is related to the abuse of our Rules of Procedure . Some Members have just resorted to filibuster tactics by jumping the queue to table their motions . Actually the normal operation of the legislature is affected
有數位議員剛才發言時均提出關注懲教署現時在運作上會否出現虐囚事件，以及提出建議。
Just now a number of Members have shown their concerns of whether there are cases that prisoners are ill - treated in the day - to - day operations of the Correctional Services Department CSD . They have also put forward their recommendations
我其實很欣賞有議員關心在囚人士及懲教署的工作，對於他們提出的建議，其實我也有視察；至於張超雄議員的建議，我也有聽聞。
Actually I really appreciate Members who show concerns about prisoners and the work of CSD . With regards to the recommendations actually I have also looked into those areas . I have also heard of things pertaining to the recommendations of Dr Fernando CHEUNG
我認為議會其實也有很多渠道讓我們討論，而非引用《基本法》第七十三條第五項及第七十三條第十項來傳召官員到這個議會大廳被人"公審"。
Actually instead of summoning officials to attend before the Council by invoking Articles 735 and 7310 of the Basic Law which is tantamount to putting them on a public trial I consider that there are many channels for us to conduct the discussions
我剛翻查紀錄，其實在2月7日早上，申訴部也邀約了政府部門、懲教署等開會討論關於這些投訴和一系列建議。
After going through the record I found that actually the Complaints Division had invited the relevant government department and CSD to attend a meeting in the morning of 7 February to discuss these complaints and a series of recommendations
我們相信，作為立法會議員，我們其實也有很多不同渠道可以討論我們關心的議題。
We believe that in our capacity as legislators we can discuss issues that we concern through various channels
事實上，不同議員有不同關心的議題。
Actually different Members will have concerns about different issues
由於早前議程上放上了許多這類譴責和傳召議案，以及早前不斷"拉布"因為要阻止我們修改《議事規則》而"拉"了很久我相信主席也知道，有很多議員真正關心的議題的議案已很久未作討論。
As a matter of fact a number of motions to censure a certain Members or to summon officials to attend before the Council have been put on the agenda in addition to the incessant filibustering some time earlier―a prolonged filibuster for the purpose of preventing us from amending the Rules of Procedure―I believe the President also knows that we have no time to discuss motions that Members really concern about for a long time
例如，吳永嘉議員提出原訂於7月5日會議上討論的"構建全方位'再工業化'政策體系"議案，我相信很多議員也關心香港未來在"再工業化"方面的發展，以及香港未來的發展。
For example Mr Jimmy NG originally moved the motion Establishing a comprehensive re - industrialization policy regime at the meeting on 5 July and I believe a lot of Members are concerned about the development of re - industrialization in Hong Kong as well as the future development of Hong Kong
此外，何啟明議員提出原訂於7月5日會議上討論的"全面檢討勞工法例，改善勞工權益"議案，亦是很多議員關心的議題；這兩項議案輪候至今尚未能討論。
Moreover Mr HO Kai - ming originally moved a motion Conducting a comprehensive review of labour legislation to improve labour rights and interests at the 5 July meeting which should be a matter of concern to Members . But up to now the two motions are still waiting in the line for discussion
如果日後個個也利用《基本法》第七十三條第五項及第七十三條第十項動議的議案，其實是插隊的做法，因為如果我們要就某些投訴或建議，希望懲教署或任何一個政府部門改善，日後有議員利用《基本法》第七十三條第五項及第七十三條第十項，便可即時要求傳召官員，或好像今天這樣，甚至官員尚未正式傳召，我們已要求局長出席會議聆聽我們的意見。
The fact that Members move motions pursuant to Articles 735 and 7310 of the Basic Law in future will be tantamount to jumping the queue . That is to say if Members have any complaint or recommendation and they want CSD or any other government department to make improvement they can move motions pursuant to Articles 735 and 7310 of the Basic Law in order to summon officials to attend before the Council; or just like what we are doing today they may require the Secretary to attend the meeting and listen to our views before the relevant official is being officially summoned
我剛才也聽到有數位議員作出嚴重的指控。
Just now I have heard serious accusations made by several Members
主席，我認為這些嚴重虐囚的指控，如果有人證、物證和證據，我覺得作為立法會議員，均應鼓勵這些人證舉報。
President I consider that if we can find the witness and evidence of about the serious accusations that certain prisoners are ill - treated then we should in our capacity as Legislative Council Members encourage these people to report the cases
據我所知，經過這段時間，根據媒體的報道，也有一些人士已作出正式舉報。
As far as I know several individuals have reported the cases after media coverage of the cases some time ago
我們希望執法部門徹查，如果真的有這些問題，我相信他們一定會把事實公諸於世。
We hope the relevant law enforcement agencies will look into these cases thoroughly . If they could identify the problems they would surely disclose the details to the public