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主席，在以下時間，我會逐點演繹我剛才提及支持這項中止待續議案的數項理據。但是，在演繹之前，我希望跟香港人說一番話：無論你支持或反對"一地兩檢"，無論你認為"一地兩檢"是否與你有關，香港人更應着意的是政府和立法會內的多數派如何狼狽為奸，如何合謀破壞三權分立，如何自廢立法機關監察行政機關的武功。
President next I am going to elaborate one by one on the several reasons for supporting this adjournment motion as I mentioned just now but before I do so I want to say a few words to Hong Kong people regardless of whether you support or oppose the co - location arrangement and regardless of whether you consider the co - location arrangement to be relevant to you Hong Kong people should be more concerned about how the Government and the majority camp in the Legislative Council have been in cahoots with each other how they have conspired to damage the separation of powers and how they have stripped the legislature of its function to monitor the executive authorities
今次是你不關心的"一地兩檢"，但下次很可能會輪到讓你感受到切膚之痛的其他法案。
This time it is the co - location arrangement that you do not care about but next time it may well be another bill that is closely relevant to your interests
"一地兩檢"在立法會有多大爭議，主席，我相信無需我重申，但它在香港社會上又有否爭議？
President I believe I do not need to reiterate how much controversy the co - location arrangement has sparked in the Legislative Council but has it caused controversy in Hong Kong society?
香港人究竟有何想法？
What do Hong Kong people think about it?
民主黨在去年就"一地兩檢"進行民意調查，所得結果是支持和反對各有四成，顯示意見非常分歧，民意非常拉鋸。
An opinion survey conducted by the Democratic Party last year found that 40 % of the respondents supported the co - location arrangement and 40 % opposed it showing that the respondents had very divergent views and there was an intense tug of war over public opinion . Yesterday on the eve of this Council meeting the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB announced the findings of its opinion survey on the co - location arrangement
昨天，民建聯趁着今次大會前夕公布其"一地兩檢"民意調查，雖然調查方法充滿誤導性，但只有不足七成回應者表示支持。
Despite the downright misleading methodology of the survey only less than 70 % of the respondents expressed support for the co - location arrangement
主席，連背後財雄勢大的全港最大黨、如此希望為政府通過《條例草案》的民建聯，也"做"不出一張令人滿意的民意成績表要做，便應做到有九成或十成回應者支持。
President even DAB Hong Kongs largest political party which is backed by great financial resources and powers and is so eager to pass the Bill for the Government failed to create a satisfying public opinion report card―as it undertook to do so it should have produced a report card showing that 90 % or 100 % of the respondents supported the co - location arrangement
畢竟在立法會內，當說話和學歷均無須是真實時，民意調查又何須真實？
After all when what Members say in this Council and their academic qualifications do not have to be true why do the findings of an opinion survey have to be true?
主席，由此可見，不單在立法會，香港人對"一地兩檢"仍然意見紛紜，抱着各種疑惑。
President it is thus clear that the co - location arrangement is controversial not only in the Legislative Council but also among Hong Kong people who still have diverse views and various doubts about it
我們應給予政府時間，讓政府先向社會清楚解釋"一地兩檢"的利弊，釋除各種疑慮後，才再把《條例草案》提交立法會審議，這是我支持這項中止待續議案的第一個理由。
We should allow time for the Government to first clearly explain the merits and demerits of the co - location arrangement to the community and dispel various misgivings . Only after that should the Government introduce the Bill into this Council for scrutiny again . This is the first reason why I support this adjournment motion
立法會不可能通過一項極可能違反《基本法》的法案。
There is no way that the Legislative Council should pass a Bill that is extremely likely to contravene the Basic Law
"一地兩檢"涉嫌違反《基本法》哪些條文，相信在座同事均心知肚明，我們在法案委員會會議上也曾多次討論。
I believe all Honourable colleagues sitting here know very well which articles of the Basic Law the co - location arrangement is suspected of contravening and we have discussed this time and again at the meetings of the Bills Committee
問題是，竟然有些立法會議員說："《條例草案》獲通過後，如果你認為它違法，便向法庭提出司法覆核吧！
The thing is some Members of this Council actually said After the passage of the Bill if you think that it is unlawful just apply to the court for a judicial review!
"當香港大律師公會3次發表意見書質疑"一地兩檢"的合法性；當立法會秘書處法律事務部要求政府當局澄清"一地兩檢"的憲法基礎；當到來回答質詢的官員只是說得出"人大常委會決定"這種毫無法理依據的依據時，為何有些立法會議員可以說出以上的那句話？
When the Hong Kong Bar Association issued three statements to challenge the legality of the co - location arrangement; when the Legal Service Division of the Legislative Council Secretariat asked the Administration to clarify the constitutional basis of the co - location arrangement; and when the officials answering our questions here could only say that it is based on the decision of the Standing Committee of the National Peoples Congress which has no legal basis at all how come some Members of this Council could make the above remark?
這些議員賴以說服其他議員支持《條例草案》的理據，竟然是"先訂立後推翻"。
These Members had the effrontery to persuade other Members to support the Bill on the grounds that it can be annulled after being enacted
主席，這些議員是否當立法會是低能呢？
President do these Members think that this Council is imbecile?
身為立法會議員，我們除了要對選民負責，亦要對自己的智商負責。
As Members of this Council we must be accountable not only to our voters but also to our intelligence quotient
正所謂"上樑不正下樑歪"，今天再爆出港鐵工程主管考試集體作弊的醜聞。
As the Chinese saying goes When the higher - ups do not set a good example the subordinates cannot be expected to behave well . Today MTRCL was hit by another scandal about mass cheating in its Engineers Person - in - Charge exam
代理主席，經營鐵路除了要方便、準時外，也必須確保安全我相信在席沒有議員會認為安全不重要。
Deputy President in addition to convenience and punctuality railway operators must also ensure safety―I believe no Member here will dismiss safety as unimportant
但是，我們現在看到港鐵除經常延誤、停駛外，更出現那麼多事故，這會否影響香港人對港鐵的信心呢？
However as we can see now not only are there often MTR service delays and suspensions but there have been so many incidents involving MTRCL as well . Will these affect Hong Kong peoples confidence in MTRCL?
《條例草案》與港鐵公司基本上是密不可分的"連體嬰"，亦猶如電腦的軟件和硬件。
The Bill and MTRCL are basically inseparable conjoined twins and they are like the software and hardware of a computer
所有砌過電腦的人都必然知道，必須先砌好硬件，確保各個硬件均運行暢順、互無衝突後，才可以處理軟件的問題。
Anyone who has assembled a computer certainly knows that he must first put together all hardware parts and make sure they run smoothly without conflicting with each other before he can deal with the software
既然高鐵仍未試車完畢，硬件未ready，我看不到處理"一地兩檢"這軟件的急切性。
As the XRL trial runs are still underway and the hardware is not ready yet I do not see any urgency in dealing with the software ie
首先要說的，是法案委員會主席葉劉淑儀議員處理《條例草案》的手法。
First I have to talk about the way Mrs Regina IP Chairman of the Bills Committee dealt with the Bill
我對此抱有極大質疑。
I have serious doubts about this
再者，代理主席，我們要深思一個問題，就是法案委員會主席的功能為何。
Besides Deputy President we have to ponder one question What are the functions of the Chairman of a Bills Committee?
法案委員會主席的功能，是要確保會議能夠進行之餘，亦要有效地讓各方意見得以陳述，並給予各方足夠時間消化和參考相關資料。
The functions of the Chairman of a Bills Committee are to ensure that its meetings can be held and to effectively allow different parties to state their views and have sufficient time to digest and take reference from relevant information
可惜，坐在法案委員會主席位置上的葉劉淑儀議員，雖然的確能充分確保會議效率，即客觀而言確保政府提交的《條例草案》可快速通過她這一關，但這是否我們期望法案委員會主席所做的事？
Regrettably although the Chairman of the Bills Committee Mrs Regina IP was indeed fully capable of ensuring the efficiency of the meetings that is―to put it objectively―ensuring that the Bill introduced by the Government could quickly get past her was this something that we expected the Chairman of the Bills Committee to do?
我們希望看到的是她會確保《條例草案》具有法理依據並合乎法律精神，但我們今次看到的客觀事實卻是她只想確保高鐵可於今年第三季通車。
We wanted to see that she would ensure that the Bill had a legal basis and was in line with the spirit of the law but the objective fact we saw this time was that she merely wanted to ensure the commissioning of XRL in the third quarter of this year
代理主席，立法會並非政府的嘍囉。
Deputy President the Legislative Council is not the Governments lackey
為免政府越陷越深，我們今次是否應停一停，想一想呢？
To prevent the Government from sinking deeper into the quagmire should we not pause and think this time?
如果一定要將法案委員會主席與古代官員比較的話，我相信法案委員會主席就好比一名諫官，必須確保政府提交的每項法案均經得起時間和法理考驗。
If I must draw an analogy between the Chairman of a Bills Committee and an ancient Chinese official I would say the Chairman of a Bills Committee is like a remonstrance official for he or she must ensure that every bill introduced by the Government can stand the test of time and is legally sound
但是，很可惜，今次諫官就沒有了，有的似乎是一名宦官。
But unfortunately the Chairman of the Bills Committee in question was more like a eunuch than a remonstrance official
更進一步的問題，當然是立法會主席梁君彥議員所作的"劃線"決定。
A further problem is of course the decision made by the President of the Legislative Council Mr Andrew LEUNG to draw the line
正如較早前陳志全議員所說，主席在二讀辯論前便劃定時間死線的做法並無理據，亦無先例。
As Mr CHAN Chi - chuen said earlier on there was no justification and no precedent for the President to set a time limit on the Second Reading debate beforehand . Let me do a calculation based only on the number of Members
單計人數，若67位議員全部發言，每人15分鐘，最少也需要16小時，現時只分配8小時進行二讀辯論，絕不足夠，亦明顯剝削了議員的發言權利，更遑論《議事規則》訂明議員在全體委員會中不限發言次數了。
If all the 67 Members would speak and each of them would speak for 15 minutes it would at least take 16 hours . Now with only eight hours allocated for the Second Reading debate time is absolutely not enough and Members have been clearly deprived of their right to speak . We should also bear in mind that the Rules of Procedure provide that a Member may speak for an unlimited number of times in committee of the whole Council
朱凱廸議員較早前問主席何謂"無心辯論"，主席的答覆是"無須解釋"。
Earlier on Mr CHU Hoi - dick asked the President what he meant by no intention of debating and the President replied that he did not have to give an explanation
這個答案令我想起馬時亨那一句"我們告訴你OK便行了"。
This answer reminds me of Frederick MAs remark that if we tell you it is OK then it is
朱議員，我相信主席給你的答覆的意思是：主席說你是無心辯論，你就是無心辯論。
Mr CHU I believe the meaning of the Presidents reply to you is that if he says you have no intention of debating then you have no intention of debating
代理主席，無可否認，在保皇黨的支持和護航下，這項中止待續議案必然會被否決，而預期《條例草案》亦極大可能獲迅速通過。
Deputy President it is undeniable that this adjournment motion is bound to be negatived with the royalists support for and defence of the Bill which is very likely to be passed swiftly as expected
我擔憂的是，今次通過的不止是有關"一地兩檢"的《條例草案》，而是"立法會正式成為橡皮圖章條例草案"。
My concern is that what will be passed this time is not just a bill pertaining to the co - location arrangement but a bill on the Legislative Council officially becoming a rubber stamp
這對我們的影響，將遠超"一地兩檢"對香港法律、《基本法》框架及普通法精神的重大影響。
The impact of this on us will even be much greater than the profound impact of the co - location arrangement on the laws of Hong Kong the Basic Law framework and the spirit of common law
2018年，我們可能會草草通過《條例草案》，但10年、20年後會怎樣？
We may hastily pass the Bill in 2018 but what will be the consequences of this in the next 10 or 20 years?
我們承擔的責任不止於今時今刻，本屆立法會議員為的是未來。
Our responsibility does not end at this moment . Members of the current Council should work for the future
尤其是，立法會主席今次在安排《條例草案》辯論時作出的種種先例，確實令人擔憂在未來的日子，當我們須審議更具爭議性的法案時，本會究竟會變成甚麼模樣。
In particular it should be noted that the various precedents set by the President of the Legislative Council in making arrangements for debating the Bill this time have indeed led to concerns about what will become of this Council when we are to scrutinize a more controversial bill in the future
我們的憲制框架、憲制秩序，以及更重要的是立法會的尊嚴，又是否經得起考驗呢？
Can our constitutional framework our constitutional order and more importantly the dignity of this Council withstand challenges?
我希望各位同事深思熟慮，支持陳淑莊議員今次提出的中止待續議案。
I hope all Honourable colleagues will consider the situation carefully and support this adjournment motion moved by Ms Tanya CHAN
天文台於上月21日在市區錄得最高氣溫攝氏34.7度。
The Hong Kong Observatory recorded a highest temperature of 34.7 degrees Celsius in the urban areas on 21 of last month
該溫度讀數在當日打破本年最高氣溫紀錄、是42年來在5月份錄得的最高氣溫紀錄，以及是自1884年有紀錄以來第三高溫的5月天。
On that day that temperature reading broke the highest temperature record of this year was the highest temperature on record for the month of May in 42 years and marked the third hottest day in May since records began in 1884
有市民指出，酷熱天氣對基層市民及戶外工作者的生活和健康帶來不少影響。
Some members of the public have pointed out that hot weather has brought considerable impacts on the daily lives and health of the grass roots and outdoor workers
主席，氣候變化加劇，極端的酷熱天氣很可能會在未來經常出現，究竟政府有否用盡一切辦法為城市降溫？
President the worsening of climate change is likely to cause frequent and extreme hot weather in the future . Has the Government exhausted all means to cool down the city?
主席，政府在主體答覆第一部分提到建造業設有相關指引，但業內人士向我反映，這些指引並未考慮行業的實際情況。
President while the Government stated in part 1 of the main reply that there were relevant guidelines for the construction industry some trade members relayed to me that such guidelines had not taken into account the actual operation of the industry
舉例來說，指引建議減少體力勞動和避免長時間在戶外工作，但建造業工人正正需要長時間在戶外工作，這些指引對某些工種而言根本難以實行。
For instance it is suggested in the guidelines that workers should minimize physical demands and avoid long hours of outdoor work but working outdoor for long hours is actually part of the job of construction workers and the guidelines are not at all practicable for some trades
就此，我想問政府 如何進一步保護在戶外工作的僱員？
In this connection I would like to ask the Government how it will enhance protection for outdoor employees
政府會否考慮在裝備方面提供協助，例如要求改良安全帽的設計、加設水霧系統或吹風裝置、要求地盤加設帳篷或抽風機，以及規定設置飲水機，好讓在戶外工作的僱員可以在更能避免中暑的環境工作？
Will the Government consider providing assistance in terms of equipment by for example improving the design of helmet providing water mist systems or air - blowing devices setting up tents or installing ventilation fans at construction sites as well as providing water dispensers so that the work environment of outdoor employees can be improved to lower the risk of heat stroke?
主席，有關葛珮帆議員的補充質詢，勞工處其實非常關注僱員在酷熱天氣下的工作情況。
President regarding the supplementary question raised by Dr Elizabeth QUAT LD is indeed greatly concerned about the working conditions of employees under hot weather
上月天氣炎熱，議員可能也留意到，勞工處已特別在天氣炎熱期間多加播放預防中暑的電視宣傳短片及電台宣傳聲帶，提醒僱主須為預防僱員中暑多下工夫。
Last month the weather was hot Member may notice that LD had specially instructed more frequent broadcast of television and radio announcements about heat stroke prevention in times of hot weather so as to remind employers of taking extra precautions to prevent employees from suffering heat stroke
其實，僱主也相當着緊，因為現時相對較難聘請人手，僱主都希望僱員能夠安全工作。
In fact employers are serious about this . As recruitment has become more difficult they also want to see their employees working safely
在天氣酷熱的情況下，勞工處會發出新聞公報，提醒各行各業人員注意工作時的中暑風險。
In times of hot weather LD will issue press releases to remind workers in different trades of the risk of heat stroke at work
我剛才清楚指出，空談推廣、宣傳、教育和鼓勵等並不足夠，並提出了多項很實際的要求。
As I pointed out clearly just now it is not enough to talk vaguely about things like publicity promotion education and encouragement and I have made a number of requests which are highly practical
主席，根據主體答覆的附件，勞工處登記的中暑工傷個案在2015年有14宗，2016年有24宗，2017年有31宗，數字持續上升。
President according to the annex to the main reply the numbers of heat stroke related work injury cases registered at LD were 14 24 and 31 in 2015 2016 and 2017 respectively showing an increasing trend
我主要想問，政府會否參考美國的做法，立法訂立酷熱指數、規定工人在酷熱天氣下的休息時間，以及訂明僱主必須提供清涼的飲用水和相關保護設施？
My major question is Will the Government draw reference from the practice of the United States and legislate for the formulation of a heat index the provision of rest breaks to workers under hot weather and the provision of cool drinking water and relevant protective measures by employers?
政府在這方面會否參考美國的做法？
Will the Government learn from the United States in this regard?
不同行業的工作環境其實差別很大，但我們會繼續跟進，盡量減少各行各業僱員在工作時可能遇到的危害。
Despite the fact that the work environment of different industries varies greatly we will continue to follow up in order to minimize the possible work hazards facing employees in different industries
至於工作過勞的問題，議員可能留意到，勞工處已在2017年10月正式委託職安局進行有關研究，相關訪問工作已於本年第一季展開。
As for the issue of overwork Members may be aware that in October 2017 LD duly commissioned OSHC to conduct a study on this issue with the relevant interviews having been started since the first quarter of this year
主席，我相信當局十分關注酷熱天氣對市民的影響，所以今天才會有5名局長就這項議題出席會議。
President I believe the Administration has shown great concern about the impacts of hot weather on members of the public as evidence from the attendance of five Directors of Bureaux on this subject today
眾所周知，在5月31日，新界部分地區的氣溫高達38°C，有些地方的氣溫在陽光照射下甚至超過43°C，而體感溫度更可能因為濕度高而高於此數，所以當天很多長者感到呼吸困難。
As we all know on 31 May the temperature was as high as 38°C in some parts of the New Territories; in some areas the temperature under the sun even exceeded 43°C and high humidity might have contributed to an even higher apparent temperature . Therefore many elderly persons complained of breathing difficulties on that day
是因為時間使然，還是當年的施工使然？
Is it due to the passage of time or due to the inferior works quality back then?
我剛才亦多次向議會表明，我們在竹園北邨的房委會代表會全力協助管委會，就我們剛才所討論的課題及要釐清的事實，作全面的調查檢討，以釋公眾疑慮。
As I have repeatedly said in the Legislative Council HAs representatives at Chuk Yuen North Estate will spare no effort in assisting the management committee to conduct a comprehensive investigation review the issues we have discussed earlier so as to clarify the facts and remove any doubt of the public
多謝田北辰議員提出的補充質詢。
I thank Mr Michael TIEN for his supplementary question
我們也明白現時的接種率並不理想，但我們有決心也有計劃投放資源和人力，務求這方面的數字可以有所提高。
We also understand that the take - up rate is now less than satisfactory but we have the confidence as well as plans for the allocation of resources and manpower to boost the rate
我們相信提高兒童的疫苗接種率，不單對兒童和家長有益，對整個社會也是好事。
We believe raising the take - up rate is not only beneficial to the children and their parents but also the community at large
代理主席，竹園北邨是租者置其屋計劃屋邨之一。
Deputy President Chuk Yuen North Estate is one of the housing estates under the Tenants Purchase Scheme TPS
有該屋邨的業主向本人反映，邨內大廈外牆早前出現大量裂縫。
Some owners of the estate have relayed to me that earlier on many cracks appeared on the external walls of the buildings in the estate
該屋邨的業主立案法團多次去信要求房屋署跟進該問題但遭拒絕。
The Owners Corporation of the estate wrote repeatedly to HD requesting it to take follow - up actions on the problem but was refused
其後，政府於2002年為房屋政策重新定位，為配合政府不再直接提供資助出售單位的整體策略，房委會決定在"租置計劃第六期乙"於2005年8月推出後，終止該計劃。
The Government subsequently re - positioned the housing policies in 2002 . In keeping with the overall strategy of withdrawing from direct provision of subsidized sale flats HA decided to cease the scheme after launching Phase 6B of TPS in August 2005
不過，既有39個租置計劃屋邨的租戶仍可選擇購買其所住單位。
However sitting tenants of the 39 TPS estates can opt to buy the flats they are living in
房委會在出售個別租置計劃屋邨前，已為有關屋邨進行全面勘察，並完成所有必需的保養和修葺工程。
HA has carried out comprehensive investigation and completed all necessary maintenance and repair works prior to the sale of individual TPS estates
房委會並向租置計劃屋邨提供為期7年的樓宇結構安全保證。
HA also provides a seven - year Structural Safety Guarantee for TPS estates
於保證期內，房委會會負責所有與結構構件如支柱、橫樑、牆壁及地台等有關的結構修葺及維修工程，包括混凝土剝落及裂縫修葺的工程，以確保樓宇整體結構安全。
During the guarantee period HA is responsible for all structural repair and maintenance works relating to structural components such as columns beams walls and floor slabs including repair works for spalling and cracking in order to ensure the overall structural safety of the buildings
此外，房委會亦已一次過將一筆數額相等於每個住宅單位14,000元的款項注入各租置計劃屋邨的維修基金內，以應付該屋邨出售後的維修工程開支。
Besides HA has also made a one - off injection equivalent to 14,000 per residential unit to the Maintenance Fund for each TPS estate to meet the expenses of post - sale repairing works
同時，租戶在購入單位前，如購買人填報單位內有損壞的設施，房委會會為單位進行最後一次修葺的改善工作，讓各租置計劃屋邨的單位在良好狀況下出售。
Also if a tenant reports that any installation in hisher flat is defective before purchasing the flat HA will carry out the final one - off repair for that flat so that flats in TPS estates are sold in good condition
無論房委會擁有多少業權，租置計劃屋邨在物業管理方面與一般私人物業無異，同樣受《建築物管理條例》、相關地契及大廈公契所規管。
Regardless of the percentage of ownership shares held by HA there is no difference between TPS estates and other private properties in terms of property management . As with private housing estates TPS estates are subject to regulation under the Building Management Ordinance BMO relevant land leases and Deeds of Mutual Covenant DMCs
租置計劃屋邨的日常管理事務由業主立案法團按照《建築物管理條例》及大廈公契的規定，召開管理委員會會議或業主大會進行商討及議決。
Day - to - day estate management matters are discussed and resolved at meetings of management committees or general meetings convened by Owners Corporations OCs pursuant to the provisions of BMO and DMCs
現時所有租置計劃屋邨均已成立法團，並已由法團委聘的物業管理公司執行其屋邨內公用地方和設施的管理及維修工作。
At present all TPS estates have already formed their OCs which have appointed property management companies to undertake the management and maintenance work of the common areas and facilities in the estates
雖然局長近來經常說"安全不能夠妥協"，但對於涉及人命的樓宇安全，他竟然只是依靠同事給予的資料而作出這答覆，顯示他完全"離地"。
Although the Secretary often said recently that safety cannot be compromised he only relied on information given by his colleagues to answer this question on building safety which concerns human lives . This shows that he has totally lost touch with the public
代理主席，其實竹園北邨的建築問題只是冰山一角，我相信其餘38個租置屋邨也可能有類似的問題。
Deputy President in fact the building problems of Chuk Yuen North Estate only represent the tip of an iceberg and I believe there may be similar problems in the other 38 TPS estates
局長還在主體答覆中"死撐"，說竹園北邨由專業工程團隊很謹慎地監工。
The Secretary has adopted a very defensive attitude in his main reply and said that the works were carefully supervised by a professional project team
請緊記，當發生天水圍的短樁事件及全港的鉛水事件，當時的司局長不是也說沒有問題嗎？
Please bear in mind that when the incidents of substandard piling works in Tin Shui Wai and the territory - wide lead - in - water problem were first discovered the Secretary of Department and the Director of Bureau at the time also said that there was no problem didnt they?
代理主席，市民的要求十分簡單，他們只要求公平、公正、公開地調查及處理事件，但現時的獨立審查組由房屋署署長應耀康負責，可謂是"自己人查自己人"，完全沒有公信力，而法團已聘請結構工程師進行調查。
Deputy President the public demand is simple they hope that the matter will be investigated and handled in a fair equitable and open manner . Nevertheless it can be said that ICU led by Director of Housing Stanley YING is conducting an investigation by peers with no credibility at all . Furthermore the OC of the estate has commissioned structural engineers to investigate the matter
我想問，在現時"公說公有理，婆說婆有理"的情況下，局長是否願意公開告訴大眾和傳媒，由於涉及人命安全，安全不能妥協，局方會找第三方成立獨立調查委員會，以釐清事實，釋除疑慮？
As each side is now presenting its own interpretation is the Secretary willing to openly tell the public and the media that since the matter concerns the safety of human lives which cannot be compromised the Policy Bureau will set up an independent investigation committee composed of third - party members to clarify the facts and ease the concerns?
請局長回答。
Secretary please answer the question
代理主席，多謝柯議員的補充質詢。
Deputy President I thank Mr OR for the supplementary question
關於租置計劃屋邨的規管及安全保證，基本上，我剛才已詳細回應。
In relation to the regulation and safety guarantee for TPS estates I have basically given a detailed response
關於個別屋邨的某些情況，我們亦要按事實來處理。
Regarding the particular conditions of the specific estate we have to handle matters according to the facts too
我剛才所說的獨立審查組的匯報，是有關人員在現場視察後作出的專業判斷，他們亦曾與相關專業人士在現場進行探討。
The report of ICU which I mentioned earlier contains professional judgment made after an on - site inspection by the relevant staff members . They had also discussed with the relevant professionals on the site
我明白大家對某些事情可能有不同意見，但關於竹園北邨的情況是否影響結構安全，在我們同事的匯報中，確實認為結構安全不受影響，亦不涉及所謂的違規情況。
I understand that Members may have different views on certain matters but regarding whether structural safety will be affected by the conditions of Chuk Yuen North Estate our colleagues have confirmed in their report that structural safety would not be affected and the alleged non - compliance with the requirements did not exist
正如我剛才已在主體答覆中回應，市民因個別屋邨的某些情況產生憂慮，我們能理解。
As I said earlier in the main reply we understand that some members of the public may be worried about the conditions of a particular estate
有關竹園北邨的簷篷問題，我剛才已承諾，房委會在業主大會和管委會的代表會全力協助管委會進行有關工作，釐清事實，以釋除公眾疑慮。
Regarding the canopies of Chuk Yuen North Estate I have pledged earlier that representatives of HA at general meetings convened by OCs or at meetings of management committees will assist the management committees to clarify the facts and allay the concerns of the public