Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
此外，現時的家庭結構越趨小型化，長者膝下無兒女的情況越來越普遍，再加上現時子女對父母生活的支援不斷減少，不少基層長者由於擔心畢生積蓄不足以應付日後生活，唯有退而不休，繼續工作，靠執拾紙皮和汽水罐賺取生活費。
In addition due to the smaller family size nowadays it is more common for elderly people to have no children . Coupled with the fact that the support provided by sons and daughters to their parents living is diminishing many grass - roots elderly people are worried that their lifelong savings will be insufficient to support their living in the future such that they would continue to work after retirement and earn living expenses by scavenging for cardboards and soft drink cans
香港的低出生率是眾所周知的事實，現時的生育率是1.21，遠低於維持人口勞動力所需的基數2.1，即每名生育年齡女性需要生育2.1名子女。
The low birth rate in Hong Kong is a notorious fact . The fertility rate is 1.21 at present far below the base figure of 2.1 required to maintain the labour force which means that every woman of childbearing age has to give birth to 2.1 children
主席，發言時間有限，我未能一一指出香港各個弱勢社群現正面對的困境，包括單親家庭、殘疾人士和青年人等。
President due to the limited speaking time I am not able to point out one by one the predicaments currently faced by various disadvantaged groups in Hong Kong including single - parent families people with disabilities and young people
要注意的是，1996年調整標準金額的時候，只把單親成人、家庭照顧者及健康欠佳成人的標準金額提升至基本需要開支的水平，而對一般失業、低收入成人的加幅，則只及其他成年人的一半。
Members have to note that in the adjustment of the standard rate payments in 1996 the standard rate payments for single parents family carers and adults in ill health were merely raised to the basic - needs level whereas the increase for the unemployed and low - income recipients was merely half of that of other adult recipients
社署在1996年確立了標準金額基礎，但詭異的地方是，社署當時訂立的基本需要並不適用於一般失業及低收入成人。
In 1996 SWD set the foundation for standard rate payments yet it is weird that the Basic Needs Approach laid down by SWD back then was not applicable to the unemployed and low - income adults
而且，社署以全港非綜援住戶最低5%收入組別作為參考標準的做法亦欠缺清晰的理據。
Besides SWDs approach of using non - CSSA households in the lowest 5 % income group in the territory as a reference standard lacks clear justification
社署其後一直根據社會保障援助物價指數的變動而調整，每年按社援物價指數調整標準金額，並每5年調整社援物價指數內的權數系統。
After that SWD makes adjustments to the standard rate payments according to the movement of the Social Security Assistance Index of Prices SSAIP every year and to the weighting system of SSAIP every five years
這種做法只能確保標準金額維持與1996年相同的購買力，即在1996年無法負擔的開支，到2019年的今天也無法負擔。
This practice can merely ensure that the purchasing power of the standard rate payments is maintained at the 1996 level . In other words expenses which were unaffordable back then in 1996 remain unaffordable today in 2019
然而，在過去20年，基本生活需要已出現明顯的改變，例如兒童學習、手提電話等在20年前並非生活必需品。
Yet over the past two decades there have been obvious changes in basic needs . For instance children learning and portable phones are not regarded as daily necessities two decades ago
因此，維持當年的購買力並不足以讓受助人應付今天的基本生活需要。
Hence even if the purchasing power back then is maintained the payments will not be sufficient for meeting the basic needs of recipients today
政府在1999年以"四人或以上的家庭每月平均可得的綜援比低薪工作的工資高"為由，大幅削減健全家庭的綜援金額，三人家庭削減10%，而四人或以上的家庭則削減20%。
In 1999 on the grounds that the average monthly CSSA payments for households of four or more persons are higher than the earnings of low - paid jobs the Government imposed a significant cut on CSSA payments for families of able - bodied where the payment for households of three persons was cut by 10 % and that for households of four or more persons was cut by 20 %
當局在1999年提出的理據，是採用"平均"綜援金額計算。
The justification advanced by the authorities in 1999 adopted the average CSSA payments for the calculation
要知道綜援申領人大部分是老弱傷殘，年老及殘疾人士的基本生活需要較多，獲得的金額亦相對高，以平均綜援金額比較住戶收入及開支，明顯帶有誤導性。
We should know that most of the CSSA recipients are elderly persons the disadvantaged and persons with disabilities . Since elderly persons and persons with disabilities have more basic needs the payments receivable by them are relatively higher . Hence it is obviously misleading to use average CSSA payments in the comparison of household income and expenditure
當局在1999年削減綜援的安排，同時漠視了在經濟衰退情況下，低薪工作工資過低的問題，亦無視政府在1996年訂立的基本需要基準。
The cut in CSSA in 1999 also overlooked the fact that wages for low - paid jobs were excessively low in times of economic recession and disregarded the objective basis for basic needs laid down by the Government in 1996
這項政策一直遺害至今，以致健全成人及兒童的金額已嚴重偏離他們應付基本生活需要的應有水平。
The harm done by this policy remains today . The payments for able - bodied adults and children have seriously deviated from the level required for meeting their basic needs
至於補助金及特別津貼方面，1999年削減綜援的安排，同時削減了健全成人個案的各種補助金及特別津貼。
As for supplement and special grants the arrangement of cutting CSSA payments in 1999 included the reduction of various categories of supplement and special grants for able - bodied adult cases
可是，在1999年削減綜援之後，健全成人就被排除在長期個案補助金之外。
Yet after the cut of CSSA payments in 1999 able - bodied adults entitlement to long - term supplement was abolished
健全成人若要購買家具及電器，只可以標準金額支付購買用品的費用。
Any able - bodied adult who needs to purchase furniture and electrical appliances can meet the required expenses only with his standard rate payment
由於標準金額主要用於食物開支，結果如何？
As the standard rate payment is provided mainly for expenses on food what will happen?
結果便是要求健全綜援領取者少吃一點來購買耐用品，這根本是於理不合。
This is indeed requiring able - bodied CSSA recipients to cut their food consumption to meet the expenses on durables
直至現在，健全成人和兒童綜援申領人仍然要自行想辦法處理搬遷、租金按金、更換眼鏡等生活所需。
By now able - bodied adults and children CSSA recipients still have to find means to meet their daily needs including needs arising from removal rent deposit payments and expenses on replacing spectacles and so on
翻查資料，羅局長當年仍身為羅議員，即在1999年的1月14日，距今差不多20年。
When I checked the information I found that Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong was a Member at that time that is 14 January 1999 which was almost 20 years ago
當時的羅議員在立法會上狠批政府削減綜援的安排，批評當年的政府成功塑造"綜援養懶人"的論述，令市民相信濫用綜援和懶人會令綜援支出大增，也令傳媒同意大幅削減綜援。
Back then Dr LAW condemned the Governments arrangement for the CSSA cut . He criticized the then incumbent Government for successfully creating the impression that CSSA nurtures lazybones prompting the public to believe that abuse of CSSA and lazy people would increase the expenditure on CSSA drastically and the media to agree with the significant cut in CSSA
局長當 年批評政府採用平均數字，而忽略綜援要幫助的正正是社會上的少數，平均數對他們來說並沒有具體意義。
At that time the Secretary criticized the Government for using the average figures in its calculation overlooking the fact that CSSA recipients were the minority in the community and average figures were not meaningful to them
局長當年請高官親自跟這些領取綜援的單親家庭和孩子傾談，了解他們的實際生活情況，以及他們在成長中面對的困難。
Back then the Secretary had invited senior government officials to chat with these single - parent families and children to understand the actual situation in their daily lives and the difficulties they faced in growth . I wonder if I can call this a twist of fate
不知這可否稱為天意弄人，局長當年又有否想到20年後，自己會成為特區政府的勞工及福利局局長，再次面對削減綜援的控訴。
I wonder if the Secretary had ever thought that he would become the Secretary for Labour and Welfare of the SAR Government 20 years later facing the accusation of an CSSA cut once again
第三，收緊長者綜援年齡。
Third it is about tightening the eligibility age for elderly CSSA
局長現時選擇站在雞蛋的另一方，堅持執行收緊長者綜援的安排，要60歲至64歲長者在新政策執行後領取健全人士綜援。
Now the Secretary has chosen to stand on the side opposite the egg insisting on implementing the arrangement for tightening the eligibility age for elderly CSSA where elderly aged between 60 and 64 are only eligible for able - bodied CSSA after the implementation of the new policy
可是，正如我剛才提出，健全成人綜援的標準金額本來已不足以應付基本生活需要，再加上1999年時的無理削減，令成人綜援和長者綜援的金額相差三分之一，這還未計算各種特別津貼。
Yet as I pointed out earlier the CSSA standard rate payment for able - bodied recipients is unable to cover their basic needs and with the unreasonable cut in 1999 the CSSA payment for adult recipients is lower than that of elderly recipients by one third which does not include the various special grants for elderly recipients
局長現時表示要降低60歲至64歲綜援長者的生活水平，令他們與其他成人綜援領取者的生活一樣那麼差。
The Secretary is now calling elderly recipients of CSSA aged between 60 and 64 to lower their standard of living so that they will share the poor living standard now being endured by adult CSSA recipients
局長有否按自己20年前所說，親身與55歲至64歲領取綜援的年輕長者傾談，了解他們的實際生活需要？
Has the Secretary done what he said 20 years ago that is going to chat with the young elderly recipients of CSSA aged between 55 and 64 in person to understand their actual needs in their daily life?
局長當年明確表示，問題是勞工市場非常失調，有太多低知識、低教育、低技術水平的人，對他們來說，適合的工作越來越少，政府不能解決基本問題，卻想利用削減綜援來解決，他相信這是本末倒置的做法。
Back then the Secretary made it most categorically clear that the problem lied in the extreme imbalance in the labour market . He said that workers with low knowledge level low education level and low skill level were great in number in the labour market but the jobs suitable for them were decreasing yet the Government failing to resolve this fundamental problem attempted to address the problem by imposing the CSSA cut . He considered such a practice comparable to putting the cart before the horse
在20年後的今天，勞工市場排斥中老年的情況依然，香港依然沒有年齡歧視的法例，長者就業依然沒有標準工時，聘用長者依然沒有稅務優惠，政府依然沒有牽頭聘用長者。
An age discrimination law has not yet been enacted in Hong Kong . Standard working hours has not yet been implemented for elderly employees . Tax concession has not yet been provided for the employment of elderly workers
因此，我依然相信，政府不能解決基本問題，卻想利用削減綜援來解決，我相信這是本末倒置的做法。
The Government has not yet taken the lead to employ elderly workers . Hence I still believe that the Government is incapable of solving the fundamental problem other than attempting to address it by cutting CSSA . I think such a practice is putting the cart before the horse
至於對年老和健康欠佳人士可獨立申請綜援，代理主席，我必須評論綜援以家庭為申請單位的安排。
As for people of old age or in ill health who have to apply for CSSA on an individual basis Deputy President I must criticize the requirement for making applications on a household basis under the CSSA Scheme
不少長者和殘疾人士即使面對經濟困難和醫療需要，但仍然要與家人同住，而未能符合申領綜援的資格。
Many elderly persons or persons with disabilities facing financial difficulties or health care needs still have to live with their families yet they will become ineligible to apply for CSSA
綜援以家庭為申請單位的做法，對需要家人支援照顧但家庭經濟困難的長者及殘疾人士非常不利，令他們面對兩難，一是遷出獨居，一是繼續與家人"捱窮"。
The arrangement of making applications on a household basis under the CSSA Scheme is extremely unfavourable to elderly persons and persons with disabilities who face financial difficulties and need the support and care of their families . They are caught in the dilemma of moving out to live alone or staying with their families in poverty
如果長者和殘疾人士為申領綜援而遷出，便會增加政府的公共開支，畢竟房屋、日間照顧服務等均涉及公共資源。
If elderly persons and persons with disabilities choose to move out to be eligible to apply for CSSA it will increase the public expenditure incurred by the Government for housing and day care services and so on will expend public resources after all
本來鼓勵家庭照顧可節省公帑，但制度卻反而鼓勵長者和殘疾人士獨立居住，增加公共開支。
In fact it will save public coffers to encourage family members to take care of elderly persons and persons with disabilities . Yet the system encourages the opposite urging them to live on their own which will increase public expenditure
代理主席，其實綜援制度千瘡百孔，罄竹難書，即使多給我半小時發言，相信也未能說完。
Deputy President the CSSA system is fraught with problems indeed . The list of problems is inexhaustible . I believe even if I have another half an hour to speak I will not be able to finish all
為體現重視人的價值，保障個人抵禦經濟和社會改變所產生的不穩定性，使人能滿足當下並且計劃將來，這些便是社會保障的初衷，也是綜援的初衷。
The initial purposes of society security are to realize the importance we attach to the value of man and to protect individuals against the instabilities arising from economic and social changes so that people may gain satisfaction presently and plan for their future . These are also the initial purposes of the CSSA Scheme
我希望大家能夠支持我提出的議案，以及所有修正案。
I hope Members will support my motion and all the amendments
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：邵家臻議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr SHIU Ka - chun be passed
我首先感謝張超雄議員、梁志祥議員、梁耀忠議員、郭家麒議員及區諾軒議員提出修正案。
Before all else I thank Dr Fernando CHEUNG Mr LEUNG Che - cheung Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Dr KWOK Ka - ki and Mr AU Nok - hin for proposing their amendments
數位提出修正案的議員都根據我的原議案提出更具體的建議，我整體上予以支持。
The several Members who proposed amendments have made more specific suggestions on basis of my original motion . I support them on the whole
首先，區諾軒議員提出定期進行基本生活需要研究，藉此重訂綜援的標準金額。
First Mr AU Nok - hin proposed conducting a study on basic and essential needs on a regular basis so as to re - determine the standard rates of CSSA
五位議員的修正案均提及不同的綜援補助金和特別津貼，我認為各位議員和局長應切實考慮他們的建議。
The amendments proposed by the five Members have mentioned different CSSA supplements and special grants . In my view Members and the Secretary should practically consider their proposals
政府在1999年削減綜援，為健全成人和兒童而設的各項補助金和特別津貼全遭削減，令他們一些最基本的生活需要得不到滿足。
In 1999 the Government cut down the CSSA rates . Various supplements and special grants for able - bodied adults and children were slashed . Consequently some of their most basic needs could not be met
香港社會服務聯會在2018年進行調查，發現......
In 2018 the Hong Kong Council of Social Service conducted a survey and found
事實上，很多綜援 受助人正是因為延遲處理視力問題而難以找到工作。
As a matter of fact many CSSA recipients can hardly find a job precisely because of the delay in addressing their visual problems
近20年來，政府的綜援政策方針是千方百計推動健全綜援人士就業，但諷刺的是，政府沒有為他們提供眼鏡費用津貼，正正阻礙了他們求職。
Over the last two decades the Governments policy direction for CSSA has been promoting employment of able - bodied CSSA recipients by every means . But ironically the Government did not provide them with a grant for costs of glasses thus hindering them in seeking employment
缺乏牙科治療津貼則令不少綜援人士連基本進食也有困難，影響他們的健康，發音不清楚亦嚴重阻礙他們的社交生活。
The lack of a grant for dental treatment has even caused difficulties to many CSSA recipients in normal eating affecting their health . Speech impairment has also seriously hindered their social life
主席，對於郭家麒議員、梁耀忠議員及梁志祥議員提出的租金津貼建議，我也予以支持。
President I also support the proposals on rent allowance made by Dr KWOK Ka - ki Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung and Mr LEUNG Che - cheung
在租金津貼問題上，個別議員提出實施租金管制，我也是支持的。
On the issue of rent allowance individual Members have proposed implementation of rent control . I support it too
主席，我支持所有修正案，亦請各位議員支持這些修正案。
President I support all the amendments and call on Members to support these amendments
主席，感謝今天提出"檢討綜合社會保障援助計劃"議案的邵家臻議員。
President I thank Mr SHIU Ka - chun for proposing the motion on Reviewing the Comprehensive Social Security Assistance Scheme
我更感謝他這次的幸運，他已抽籤13次，而他竟在這個時候中籤，恰巧是他關注已久的議題的重要時刻，我相信這是命運的安排，更是我們必須為香港最基層的一群市民發聲的機會。
I am glad that he has the luck this time around . I mean he has been unsuccessful in obtaining a debate slot in 13 ballots but it turns out he is successful this time when a debate is critical to the question he has shown concern for a long time . I believe this is an opportunity granted by fate and we must speak for the grass roots the lowest stratum in society in Hong Kong
主席，特首在答問會上，發表一番令人震驚的言論，諉過於人，將他們行政及財政提案的責任推卸給別人。
President at the Chief Executives Question and Answer Session the Chief Executive made an alarming remark to shift the blame . She shifted the responsibility of making administrative and financial proposals to others
我剛想起她遺漏了一人，就是梁振英。
I just remember that she has forgotten one person and that is LEUNG Chun - ying
其實，將領取長者綜援的合資格年齡由60歲提高至65歲，以配合所謂"人口政策延遲退休年齡"的方向，是梁振英在2017年任內最後一份施政報告提出的。
In fact the proposal to raise the eligibility age of elderly Comprehensive Social Security Assistance CSSA from 60 to 65 to align with the so - called direction of raising retirement age under the population policy was put forth by LEUNG Chun - ying in 2017 in the final Policy Address within his tenure
我想提醒"林鄭"，如果她這麼喜歡諉過於人，是否也應諉過梁振英呢？
I wish to remind Carrie LAM that if she is eager to shift the blame she should shift the blame to LEUNG Chun - ying should she not?
當然，經過這段日子的闡述，大家有更多的了解，從而知道"林鄭"的說法並不合理，顯然是一種諉過於人的態度。
Certainly after the explanations given during this past period the public now have a better understanding of the situation and know that Carrie LAMs remark is unreasonable obviously shifting the blame to others
民主黨一直反對將領取長者綜援合資格年齡由60歲提高至65歲，在不同的事務委員會及民間討論中，我們均表達這個意見。
The Democratic Party has all along been opposing raising the eligibility age of elderly CSSA from 60 to 65 and we have voiced such opposition at meetings of various Panels and in discussions in the community
反對的理由很簡單，因為我們認為我們需要一個資源分配合理、照顧弱勢社群的社會，一個有關愛的社會。
The reason for our opposition is straightforward . We consider that we need a society in which resource allocation is fair and the disadvantaged are taken care of . We need a society with love and care
很可惜，這個政府是一個涼薄的政府，一個不近人情的政府。
Regrettably our Government is a hard - hearted government without compassion
政府一意孤行要推動這項政策，不單不敢承認推動這項政策的目的，更要諉過於人。
The Government insists on implementing this policy yet fearing to admit the purpose of doing so and shifts the blame to others
主席，這做法反映政府重富輕貧、劫貧濟富的施政理念。
President this practice exhibits the Governments governance philosophy of attending to the wealthy but neglecting the poor and depriving the poor for the benefit of the rich
大家或許還記得，在特首於答問會引起軒然大波的同一天，另一位立法會同事，就是自由黨的鍾國斌議員提出了一項相對的質詢，是二元的問題。
Perhaps Members may recall that on the day the Chief Executive stirred up a hornets nest at the Question and Answer Session another colleague of the Legislative Council Mr CHUNG Kwok - pan from the Liberal Party asked a conflicting question a question of dichotomy
這反映林鄭月娥是一個怎樣的人呢？
What does it tell about the kind of person Carrie LAM is?
就是一個重富輕貧的人。
She is a person who attends to the rich but neglects the poor
"林鄭"常說關心基層市民、"劏房戶"，他們大多是領取綜援或無法"上樓"的人。
Carrie LAM often says that she cares about the grass roots and the tenants of subdivided units who are mainly CSSA recipients or people who cannot be allocated public housing
這真是貧無立錐之地，但有錢人則可有地方打球。
While the poor have no place for dwelling the rich are provided with a vast area for playing golf
這狀況與現時辯論的議題正好一致，主席，就是重富輕貧。
This scenario is cognate with the question of the present debate President that is attending to the rich but neglecting the poor
我們曾向特首建議，當局應採用新發展區模式，引用《收回土地條例》，以發展更多土地，不要搞公私營合作。
We have proposed to the Chief Executive that the authorities should adopt the new development area approach . The authorities should invoke the Lands Resumption Ordinance to develop more land rather than adopting the public - private partnership approach
特首多次在答問會上侃侃而談，與我們的同事對壘搏擊。
The Chief Executive talked about this assertively a number of times at the Question and Answer Session and debated and argued with our colleagues
最後，當局還是要開一道門，改名為"土地共享"，讓地主及發展商參與發展，讓他們分一杯羹，從中獲利，但卻不肯透過政府主導來發展土地，興建公營房屋。
Eventually the authorities insist on opening a door for land owners and real estate developers to take part in the development on the pretext of Land Sharing so that they can get in on the action and reap profits . Yet the authorities are unwilling to make the Government to take the lead in developing land for the construction of public housing
這例子與今天的議題同出一轍，主席，我引述這兩個例子，就是要引證政府確實是一個重富輕貧的政府。
This example shares the same origins of the motion debate today . President I have the two examples to prove that the Government has really adopted the attitude of attending to the rich but neglecting the poor
主席，政府是次調高申請長者綜援的年齡，顯然是踏中一個大地雷。
President in this upward adjustment of the eligibility age of elderly CSSA the Government has obviously stepped on a big mine
主席，就今次的議案而言，我們看到2017年的統計數字顯示，60至64歲的人士在全港有52萬人。
President in respect of the present motion we notice from the statistics of 2017 that there are 520 000 people aged between 60 and 64 in the territory
這群人是所謂戰後"嬰兒潮"出生的，他們為香港的繁榮和建設，付出了很多貢獻。
This group is the post - war baby boomers . They have contributed a lot to the prosperity and development of Hong Kong
可是，時至今日，當他們的經濟狀況不理想時，我們竟然連一點尊嚴也沒有留給他們。
Regrettably now when their financial status becomes bad we do not accord any respect to them
我最不滿意的是他們的援助被削減1,000元，變成一般成人的綜援。
I am most dissatisfied that their assistance has to be reduced by 1,000 to the adult CSSA level
另一令人不滿之處，就是就業輔導計劃。
Another issue causing discontent is the employment assistance programme
這項安排是自相矛盾的。
The arrangement is contradictory
大家也知道該計劃是協助健全綜援申請人，希望他們透過計劃最終可以重投社會。
We all know that the programme is designed for assisting able - bodied CSSA recipients hoping they can eventually reintegrate into society through the programme
主席，要說的其實還有很多，我相信同事會接力發言。
President there is still a lot to say and I believe colleagues will take over the baton to talk about them
現有安排已不合時宜，租金津貼、電話開支，以至配眼鏡的開支等，一切均未能切合基層市民的需要。
The arrangements for rent allowance phone charges and expenses on glasses fail to cater for the needs of the grass roots
我希望政府聽罷今天的辯論，聽了不同同事的意見和跨黨派的意見後，不會再推行這項劫貧濟富，重富輕貧的政策，徹底改變今次的做法，並且檢討整個綜援......
I hope that after listening to the views of various colleagues and the common opinions of different political parties and groupings the Government will not implement this policy which is depriving the poor for the benefit of the rich and attending to the rich but neglecting the poor
主席，據報，近年有不少俗稱"假難民"的人士抵港後，隨即根據《禁止酷刑和其他殘忍、不人道或有辱人格的待遇或處罰公約》提出酷刑聲請或免遣返聲請，並在入境事務處處理其聲請期間，在港從事非法工作，甚至參與販毒、管有槍械及參與械鬥等犯罪活動，危害本港治安。
President it has been reported that in recent years quite a number of people commonly known as bogus refugees lodged torture claims or non - refoulement claims claims under the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment immediately upon their arrival in Hong Kong . While their claims are being processed by the Immigration Department they take up illegal employment in Hong Kong and even engage in criminal activities such as drug trafficking possession of arms and armed conflicts which pose a threat to the law and order of Hong Kong
主席，前日，在法律年度開啟典禮上，終審法院首席法官馬道立先生特別指出，現時這些數量龐大的酷刑聲請或免遣返聲請個案已經由積壓在行政機關，全部轉為積壓在法院，他在演辭中特別提到，這種情況甚至對其他司法工作產生不良影響，因此，他們會與 律政司磋商，探討可如何對法例作出適度修訂，以便在處理這類事情時可以更有效率。
President the day before yesterday in the ceremonial opening of the legal year the Chief Justice of CFA Geoffrey MA pointed out specifically that at present the very large number of torture claims or non - refoulement claims which had created a backlog in the Executive had all been shifted to the Court . In particular he pointed out in his speech that this situation had an adverse impact on other judicial work . In view of this they would liaise with the Department of Justice with a view to exploring the possibility of introducing modest legislative amendments so as to facilitate a more efficient handling of such matters
局長，你也聽過一句話："野火燒不盡，春風吹又生"。
Secretary you have also heard the saying The grass on earth cannot be burned out by a prairie fire but grows again with the spring breeze
今天你送走6000名聲請者，明天隨時又迎來60000名，以後局長每天也過着這種迎送生涯。
If you send 6 000 claimants back today you may find yourself receiving 60 000 of them tomorrow and in the future the Secretary will lead a life of seeing people off and taking people in every day
局長，你是否記得，過去在越南船民問題上，政府沒對策，最後想到設立收容中心，每天在電台播放"不漏洞拉"，船民數目也因而逐漸減少。
Secretary do you remember that in the past on the issue of Vietnamese boat people the Government could not come up with any counter measure . In the end it thought of setting up reception centres and each day it broadcast the message with the phrase bắt đầu từ nay from now on on the radio every day and as a result the number of boat people decreased gradually
局長又是否記得，近年來，有很多地方開始對一些難民其實他們甚至是真正的難民，而很多也是真正的難民訂下一個規定，便是假如他們在當地犯下刑事案，便會即捕即解。
Does the Secretary also remember that in recent years in many places a rule has been laid down for refugees―in fact those people are genuine refugees; many of them are genuine refugees―that is if they commit any criminal offence in those places they will be repatriated upon arrest
我沒有其他要求，只是要求你考慮這兩點，好嗎？
I do not have any other request to make other than asking you to consider these two points . Can you do so?
主席，對於真正的難民，我們是要幫助的，但對於假難民，我們要打擊，絕不手軟，而且對於這些假難民利用司法覆核這途徑，逗留香港10年，這是絕對不能接受的。
President in respect of genuine refugees we have to help them but in respect of bogus ones we have to clamp down on them relentlessly . Moreover the fact that these bogus refugees exploited the channel of judicial review to stay here for a decade is totally unacceptable
我回看政府的數字，今年預算用14億元來處理酷刑聲請問題。
If I look at government figures this year 1.4 billion will be earmarked for dealing with torture claims
整體而言，在整個機制實施後，共有16300宗個案，但獲確立為真正難民的個案，只有不足1%。
Overall speaking after the introduction of the mechanism there were 16 300 cases but those established as genuine refugee cases accounted for less than 1 %