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政府在2016年已經提出再工業化的措施，其中我認為十分重要的一點，便是加強與院校合作。
In 2016 the Government already proposed measures for re - industrialization and I consider one of them vitally important which was to strengthen cooperation with institutions
現時成立了應用科技研究院，但業內專家認為，應科院未能完全發揮職能，達到活化產業的功效。
At present the Hong Kong Applied Science and Technology Research Institute ASTRI has been established but experts in the field opine that ASTRI has failed to give full play to its functions and achieve the effect of revitalization of industries
另一方面，也有意見認為，本地大學與應科院和產業之間的整合不是太好，我們投放於研發的GDP雖然逐漸增加，但轉化成為實業產業的比例，遠低於日本、韓國和我們的祖國內地。
On the other hand there is also the view that local universities do not collaborate well with ASTRI and the industries . Although our GDP on research and development RD has gradually increased the proportion of transformation into industrial businesses is far lower than that of Japan Korea and our Motherland
這些學者、博士、教授認為學校裏的制度比較僵化，不利於他們一邊在大學授課，一邊在外面做研發。
These academics doctors and professors think that the system in schools is relatively rigid . It is not conducive to their teaching in universities on the one hand and doing RD outside on the other
在這方面，希望能夠"拆牆鬆綁"，再配合應科院，令更多產業研究能夠落地。
In this regard it is hoped that the barriers and restrictions can be removed such that with the concerted efforts of ASTRI more industrial research can be put into practice
另一方面，便是要發揮本地的傳統優勢，包括在生物科技、食品、醫療用品，以及特別是精密機器的製作方面，我們是具有優勢的，因為樣板測試需要一些專精的人手，我們可以製成樣板，然後再到內地製作，從而帶動兩地經濟。
Besides we should give play to our local traditional advantages including those in biotechnology foodstuffs medical supplies and in particular precision machinery production . We enjoy an edge since prototype testing requires specialized manpower . We can make prototypes followed by production on the Mainland thereby boosting the economies of both places
最後，我們很希望政府在推動再工業化的時候，不要一邊推動，一邊拖後腿，例如最近我們也十分擔心，房委會將清拆4座工廈，當中的賠償和拆遷安排尚未解決，難道要那千多戶工廈的......
Lastly we very much hope that the Government will not drag its feet in promoting re - industrialization . A recent example is that the Housing Authority is going to demolish four industrial buildings but the compensation and relocation arrangements have not been settled yet for which we are quite worried
sorry，是超過2,000戶小企業倒閉嗎？
Will those 1 000 - odd tenants in the industrial buildings sorry will more than 2 000 small enterprises close down?
現在可能沒有了某些組織，它們很喜歡監察議員參加了哪些委員會及其出席率，但這方面都出現很多不公平的現象，而且很多時候建基於可能是表面的紀錄，又或是立法會根本沒有記錄議員在席的時間，故這方面可能比較表面化。
Certain organizations may have been disbanded now and they very much liked to keep watch on which committees Members had joined as well as their attendance rate . But there had been many unfair phenomena in this regard and more often than not their findings were based on what might be superficial records or the Legislative Council actually did not keep records of the time during which Members were present at meetings and so their findings might be quite superficial
我亦留意到有部分同事以往很喜歡在單張介紹自己在當屆參加了多少個委員會，一系列地列出來，但原來很多都"水分"較多，他們只是報了名參加而沒有出席或工作，這都是過往的普遍現象。
I also noticed that some colleagues very much liked to state on their leaflets the number of committees that they had joined in that term of the Legislative Council setting out a series of committees . But these numbers turned out to be quite exaggerated as they only signed up to join the committees without attending meetings or doing any work and this was very common in the past
老生常談，他們當時要求點算法定人數，在很多發言中插言，在立法會會議上的舉止非常令人噁心，正如同事較早前說，展示很多物品完全是有侮辱性多於有文化、有高水平、在民主意識下一種和平而又理性的表達方式，實際上是以侮辱他人為主，搞破壞為實的一種表現。
As I have said time and again they made quorum calls interrupted many speeches and behaved in a very disgusting manner at Council meetings . As my colleagues have said earlier the display of many objects was more of an insulting nature than a refined sophisticated peaceful and rational way of expression under the principle of democracy and it was actually a way of insulting others and causing damage
在2017年12月22日，正值聖誕的日子，我們還在這裏可以說是嚴陣以待，也害怕他們搞暴力的衝擊事件。
On 22 December 2017 around Christmas time it could be said that we were still here being on the alert and in fear of their violent attack
過了第一關後，到2021年3月26日，我們有鑒於郭榮鏗那些醜陋的行為，真的有辱家聲，是甚麼家聲呢？
After the first hurdle by 26 March 2021 we had seen that the ugly behaviour of Dennis KWOK was really degrading to the familys reputation . What familys reputation am I talking about?
他作為法律界人士，也是法律界功能界別的代表，還是大律師的智慧和表現。
He was a member of the legal profession and a representative of the Legal Functional Constituency . His wisdom or performance represented that of a barrister
實際上，當時我已經勸他很多次，但屢勸不爽。
In fact at that time I persuaded him many times but to no avail
可能左耳也進不了，根本沒有"左耳入，右耳出"。
With him it was always in one ear and it was probably not even in one ear not in one ear and out the other
我不知他現在去了加拿大還是潛逃到哪裏，但他把選舉內會主席的問題一拖超過半年。
I do not know if he is now in Canada or where he has fled to but he had delayed the election of the chairman of the House Committee for more than half a year
當時，拖了一兩個星期，我已經跟各位同事說，我們必須果斷"斬纜"，但當時我們的同事仍然認為不用擔心，再看他如何表演。
At that time after a week or two of delay I already told my colleagues that we had to end the filibuster decisively but at that time our colleagues still thought that we should not worry and see how he would perform
話音未落，過了春節；話音未落，又過了復活節；復活節過了，我們還未"復活"。
Before my voice had died away the Spring Festival came followed by Easter; and after Easter we had yet to return to normalcy
這次，2021年7月14日，我們討論反對濫用程序，"規程問題"、"規程問題"，這些聽到真的從內心震出來，那種震是甚麼呢？
This time on 14 July 2021 we are discussing ways to counter the abuse of procedures . Upon hearing a point of order one after another one must be trembling deep in his heart . What sort of trembling am I talking about?
"規程問題"，尤其是聲音全部都從那邊傳來，令我右耳的聽覺也有少許問題。
As the voices calling for a point of order all came from that side I suffered hearing loss in my right ear to a certain extent
另外，現在點算法定人數那種"噹噹噹"的催命鐘聲，這次未必完全可以解決，但有7項我完全認同，包括：不准胡亂插言；主席的決定是最終決定，不要再在這裏妨礙其他程序；衣着一定要得體；不能夠有任何舉止導致自己的聲望和形象受損等。
Moreover the annoying clanging of the quorum bell may not be completely solved this time but there are seven proposals that I fully agree with including no interruptions; the decision of the chair shall be final and no interference with other procedures; dress properly; do not behave in a way that will cause damage to ones reputation image and so on
富貴後再退下來做工業其實十分困難，怎樣做呢？
It is very difficult for us to go back and engage in industry after becoming affluent how can we do so?
所以，人是很難走回頭路的，由儉入富易，但由富貴回到窮困日子，要慳儉則十分困難。
Therefore it is very difficult for people to go back . It is easy to go from thrift to wealth but extremely difficult to go from wealth to thrift and be frugal
香港現在是怎樣呢？
What is the situation in Hong Kong now?
一切事情無須複雜。
We should not make it so complicated
我經常批評香港最討厭的是甚麼呢？
What do I always criticize as being the most annoying in Hong Kong?
由1978年開始，把深圳推平了便行，達到"三通一平"。
They have done so by flattening Shenzhen since 1978 to achieve access to water supply electricity and roads as well as land levelling
如果這件事出現，無論我們如何努力，自己的科研資源、人才、技術或知識都會備受影響，會狹窄很多，不能與外國的頂尖學府一起合作。
If this happens no matter how hard we try our own research resources talents technology or expertise will be affected . Our room for development will be much narrower as we will not be able to collaborate with top foreign universities
我相信大家也知道，今次中央出手修改香港選舉制度以及我們修改《議事規則》有一個重要的原因，就是提升議事質素，去蕪存菁。
I believe all of you know that this time the Central Authorities took the initiative to change the electoral system of Hong Kong and we have amended RoP for one important reason that is to enhance the quality of the Council in transacting business and separate the wheat from the chaff
但無論甚麼規則也好，最重要仍是要有肯付出時間參政的人。
But what the rules are it is most crucial to have people who are willing to devote their time to participate in politics
我希望各位同事諒解。
I hope that my fellow colleagues can understand
主席，今天十分感謝周浩鼎議員提出"啟動本港再工業化發展的新階段"議案。
President I am very grateful to Mr Holden CHOW for proposing the motion of Commencing a new phase in Hong Kongs development of re - industrialization today
當年，香港是四小龍之首，輕工業簡直冠絕全球，出口量非常大，轉眼間，這些輕工業因為人力等各方面的問題逐漸北移。
In those years Hong Kong ranked the first among the Four Little Dragons of Asia and our light industries were the most buoyant in the world with a very large export volume . However in the blink of an eye these light industries have gradually migrated northward because of various problems such as manpower etc
但是，香港絕對可以發展其他工業。
Yet Hong Kong can definitely develop other industries
我們有工業，所以每次當香港的經濟遇到危機時，無論是石油危機等，我們都靠甚麼？
As we had manufacturing industry so whenever the Hong Kong economy faced any crisis whether it was the oil crisis etc what did we rely on?
靠我們的工業走出去。
We relied on our manufacturing industry to go global
現在疫情來了，這個時候大家反思，我們還能靠甚麼走出去？
Now that amid the epidemic we have to rethink what else can we rely on to go global?
我們可以出去招客嗎？
Can we go out to attract visitors?
主席，隨着創新科技的發展，再工業化已經成為世界各地重要的發展策略，而香港亦有需要透過再工業化，尋找新的經濟增長點。
President with the development of innovation and technology IT re - industrialization has become an important development strategy around the world . Hong Kong also needs to explore new points of economic growth through re - industrialization
我們工商界早在多年前已經提出再工業化的議題，並且認為政府需要制訂更全面、更靈活的再工業化政策，過程中亦需要部門之間的協調。
We from the industrial and business sectors have put forth the subject of re - industrialization many years ago and we believe that the Government needs to formulate a more comprehensive and flexible policy for re - industrialization . Coordination among departments is also needed in the process
國家"十四五"規劃及粵港澳大灣區發展為香港帶來無限機遇，其中"十四五"規劃提出"支持改造傳統製造業"及"發展壯大戰略性新興產業"，而《粵港澳大灣區發展規劃綱要》亦提出"支持香港在優勢領域探索再工業化"。
The National 14th Five - Year Plan and the development of the Guangdong - Hong Kong - Macao Greater Bay Area have brought about unlimited opportunities to Hong Kong . The 14th Five - Year Plan also proposes to support the transformation of traditional manufacturing industries and strengthen strategic emerging industries whereas the Outline Development Plan for Guangdong - Hong Kong - Macao Greater Bay Area proposes to support Hong Kongs efforts in exploring re - industrialization in sectors where it enjoys advantages
香港地處大灣區，緊靠珠三角這個世界級工廠，擁有全球採購及銷售網路，以及龐大的內地市場，這些也是香港再工業化的有利條件，所以我們一直認為，香港在再工業化方面是很有優勢的。
Located in the Greater Bay Area and in close proximity to the Pearl River Delta which is a world - class factory Hong Kong possesses a global sourcing and sales network as well as a huge market in the Mainland . These are also favourable conditions for the re - industrialization of Hong Kong . Therefore we always believe that Hong Kong is well - positioned for re - industrialization
我們希望政府在放眼發展高科技的同時，亦要肯定優勢傳統工業的價值。
We hope that the Government would recognize the value of traditional industries in which we enjoy advantages while setting its sights on the development of advanced technologies
與此同時，我們亦期望政府繼續與業界、學界及研發機構合作，積極融入國家發展大局，完善各項推動創科及再工業化的工作。
Meanwhile we also hope that the Government would continue to work with the sector academia and RD institutions to proactively integrate Hong Kong into national development and step up the various efforts in promoting IT development and re - industrialization
主席，要支持再工業化，離不開資金、人才、土地及法律等配套。
President support to re - industrialization cannot go without capital talent land and legal system etc
在資金方面，政府在2020年推出再工業化資助計劃，以配對形式資助生產商在香港設立新智能生產線，但截至今年4月底，只有15宗申請。
On capital the Government launched the Re - industrialisation Funding Scheme in 2020 which subsidizes manufacturers on a matching basis to set up new smart production lines in Hong Kong . However only 15 applications have been received up to end April this year
有些工商界朋友對我說，他們知道有這個計劃，但由於審批過程繁複，亦需要提交大量文件，他們實在沒有人力、物力及心力申請。
Some friends of mine from the industrial and business sectors told me that they were aware of this Scheme but they really did not have the manpower and resources to spare efforts to apply given the complicated vetting and approval process and the need to submit a bunch of documents
我"做廠"出身，主席亦是"做廠"出身，我們也深深體會到再工業化的過程一點也不容易。
I have the background of operating a factory and so does the President . Both of us understand very well that the process of re - industrialization is by no means easy
政府需要為我們提供更多支援，要簡化行政程序，令工商界在申請資助的過程中，不會有這麼多條條框框的限制。
The Government needs to provide us with more support and streamline the administrative procedures so that the industrial and business sectors will not be subject to so many rules and regulations in the course of applying for subsidies
至於人才方面，政府在2018年推出再工業化及科技培訓計劃，以配對形式資助本地企業人員接受科技培訓。
On talent the Government launched the Reindustrialisation and Technology Training Programme in 2018 which funds local enterprises on a matching basis for their staff to receive training in advanced technologies
這個計劃是好，但我們希望政府有更多措施，協助企業解決人才短缺的問題，同時亦希望當局優化優秀人才入境計劃及科技人才入境計劃，以協助工商界在全球科技人才爭奪戰中贏出。
This Programme is a good initiative but we hope that the Government will implement additional measures to assist enterprises in solving the problem of talent shortage . At the same time we also hope that the authorities will improve the Quality Migrant Admission Scheme and the Technology Talent Admission Scheme to help the industrial and business sectors win the global competition for technology talents
我們亦希望政府可以擴大大灣區青年就業計劃，鼓勵企業為有志到大灣區開創事業的香港青年提供工作機會。
We also hope that the Government would expand the Greater Bay Area Youth Employment Scheme to encourage enterprises to offer job opportunities for Hong Kong youths who aspire to pursue their career in the Greater Bay Area
事實上，香港擁有很多優秀的年輕人才，而大灣區坐擁世界頂尖的創新產業，大灣區青年就業計劃可以結合人才及產業，協助年輕人拓展眼界及事業。
In fact Hong Kong has many talented young people and the Greater Bay Area is home to some of the worlds leading innovative industries . The Employment Scheme can help young people broaden their horizons and develop their career by combining talents and industries
至於土地方面，當局需要檢討土地用途，支援有意在香港設立高增值生產線的企業，並促進它們的持續發展。
Regarding land the authorities need to conduct land use reviews provide support for enterprises which intends to set up high value - added production lines in Hong Kong while facilitating their sustainable development
與此同時，政府亦需要檢討影響有關投資的過時法例。
At the same time the Government should also review some obsolete legislation that would have a bearing on investment
主席，推動再工業化能夠為香港經濟帶來增長動力，創造優質的就業機會。
President promoting re - industrialization can give growth momentum to the Hong Kong economy and create quality employment opportunities
我們期待亦期望政府做好準備，應對未來的經濟挑戰。
We expect and hope that the Government will be well prepared for the economic challenges ahead
但 是，在此時此刻，我們最重要的是做好抗疫工作，大家一起接種疫苗，令本港的關口可以盡快通關，讓香港及大灣區兩地的經濟活動可以重啟。
Having said that at this point in time the most important task for us is to do a good job in fighting the epidemic . Let us get vaccinated so that traveller clearance at the border of Hong Kong can be resumed as soon as possible for the economic activities in Hong Kong and the Greater Bay Area to restart
如果香港的經濟可以盡快復蘇，我相信我們在大灣區的發展是大有可為的。
I believe that our development in the Greater Bay Area will have great possibilities should the Hong Kong economy have a speedy recovery
主席，香港樓價高昂，連續多年都是全球之最，很多外國人首次看到香港住屋環境和樓價，也會被嚇一跳。
President the high property prices in Hong Kong have topped the world for many years in a row . Many foreigners would be shocked when they first learn of the living environment and property prices in Hong Kong
毫無疑問，房屋問題對社會的影響是全方位的，基層未能夠輪候到公屋，被迫暫時住"劏房"；初出茅廬的年青夫婦，可能有高學歷、高收入，但短時間內難以負擔到過百萬元的首期；有小朋友的家庭，即使收入不錯，但想換樓卻難上加難。
There is no doubt that the housing problem has exerted impact on society in every respect . The grass roots who are still waiting to be allocated public housing are forced to live in subdivided units in the interim; fledgling young couples though probably highly educated and have high income can hardly afford a down payment of over a million dollars within a short period of time; families with children find it much more difficult to switch homes despite earning good income
置業階梯，很多人每一步都跨不上去，確實影響香港市民每一天的生活。
Many people are unable to climb one step up the home ownership ladder and it does affect the daily life of Hong Kong people
住屋是市民改善生活的希望，亦是鼓勵努力工作、向上流動的動力。
People pin their hopes for improvement of their lives on housing which is also an incentive for people to work hard and seek upward mobility
公屋讓基層家庭可以負擔住屋的開支；居屋及其他資助房屋讓入息水平不錯的家庭能夠"上車"置業；私營房屋提供多元化、高質素的選擇，亦可以作為一種資產。
Public housing provides grass - roots families with affordable housing . The Home Ownership Scheme HOS and other subsidized housing enable families with decent income to acquire their first properties and achieve home ownership . Private housing offers diverse and quality options which can also be regarded as an asset
過去10年，政府在住屋方面做過不少事情，可能官員發言也會列舉一大堆政績，例如新增公屋單位有多少個，私樓單位有多少個，但政策目標是否只是一個數字如此簡單呢？
Over the past decade the Government has done a lot with regard to housing . Officials may cite in their speeches a long list of achievements such as the number of new public housing units and the number of private housing units but is the policy objective as simple as a number?
現實是，公私營房屋均不足夠，房屋階梯的類型滿足不到對象的需要，例如抽不到居屋，年青人唯有想盡辦法買私樓，所以為何新盤有這麼多一房單位，因為要配合市場的購買力。
The reality is that there is a shortage of both public and private housing and the types of housing ladder fail to meet the needs of the target group . For example young people being unable to buy HOS flats through ballot can only try every means to buy private flats . That is why there are so many one - room flats in new property developments because they have to match the purchasing power of the market
以這個角度來看，政府房屋政策成績表難以稱得上令人滿意。
From this perspective the Governments performance in terms of housing policy can hardly be considered satisfactory
正如我們過去一直提到，政府以為出"辣招"可以壓低樓價，現實反而令到二手市場供應減少，"上車"置業要的首期更多，有些人更認為阻人買樓多過幫人買樓。
Rightly as we have kept pointing out the Government thought that the curb measures could suppress property prices but the reality is that they have reduced supply in the second - hand property market rendering a higher down payment required for purchase of first properties . Some people even think that such measures hinder rather than assist people in purchasing properties
至於市場價格，我們看到亦照樣節節上升。
As regards market prices we see that they continue to rise nonetheless
"辣招"本用作換取時間，增加房屋供應，但10年過去，造地建屋的進度也不是很理想。
The curb measures were intended to buy time for increasing housing supply but after 10 years the progress of land formation and housing construction has not been very satisfactory
當正在採用的措施沒甚麼效用時，市民便由期待到無奈，官員會否認真思考，嘗試調整措施以測試市場反應呢？
When the existing measures are not quite effective peoples eagerness has turned into helplessness . Will the officials give it some serious thought and try to adjust the measures to test the market responses?
過去我們曾提出一些建議，例如放寬壓力測試、調整換樓人士的DSD，或暫停部分"辣招"一年，各官員也是重複表示"緊密留意市場"，不過甚麼也沒有做過。
We had made some suggestions such as relaxing the requirements of the stress test adjusting the double ad valorem stamp duty for persons switching homes or suspending some of the curb measures for a year . The officials have just repeatedly said that they are keeping a close eye on the market but doing nothing
政府經常表示擔心，如果真的推出這些措施，改變了一些政策，會向市場釋放錯誤信息，但實際上，美國聯邦儲備局的信息遠遠比特區政府有更大影響力。
The Government often expresses concern that if these measures are really introduced and some policies are changed the wrong message will be sent to the market . But in effect messages from the United States Federal Reserve have far greater influence than those of the SAR Government . People have waited years after years and property prices have gone up 10 % after 10 %
市民等了一年又一年，樓價升了一成又一成，官員因為擔心便停在那裏不做事，但物業市場不會因為他們的擔心便停在那裏，他們要問市民是否滿意，是否有方法幫助市民和香港社會發展呢？
And officials have been standing still and doing nothing because they are worried but the property market will not stand still just because they are worried . They have to ask the public if they are satisfied and if there is a way to help them and the Hong Kong society develop . As the saying goes Wishing there would be tens of thousands of spacious houses
房屋問題在立法會已討論多年，樓價亦已上升多年，影響物業市場亦有很多不同因素，但政府的房屋政策一定是重中之重，我希望政府能夠積極行動，幫市民安居樂業，我亦相信這是中央的希望。
The housing problem has been discussed in the Legislative Council for many years and property prices have been rising for many years . There are also many different factors affecting the property market but the Government must accord top priority to its housing policy . I hope the Government can take proactive actions to help people live and work in contentment
《香港國安法》實施1年後，我們社會穩定，今天我們已改善了《議事規則》，我很希望在一個比較安定的環境下，市民可以盡快買到樓，安居樂業。
One year after the implementation of the Hong Kong National Security Law our society is stable . Also we have now improved the Rules of Procedure . I very much hope that in a relatively more stable environment the public can achieve home ownership as soon as possible and live and work in contentment
代理主席，我支持今次修訂《議事規則》的議案。
Deputy President I support this motion proposed to amend the Rules of Procedure RoP
有人問為何《議事規則》會有這麼多漏洞？
Some people have asked why there are so many loopholes in RoP
很簡單，現時的《議事規則》是承襲港英年代的立法局，當年的議員大多數是守規矩的君子，事實上當年亦沒有人膽敢這樣地反港英政府。
The reason is simple . The existing RoP is inherited from the Legislative Council in the British - Hong Kong era when most of the Members were gentlemen who abided by the rules and in fact back in those years nobody would dare to oppose the British - Hong Kong Government in such a way
所以，《議事規則》只用來防君子，不是用來防小人，不需要訂得太具體，有問題才由主席作裁決。
Therefore RoP were meant to guard against only the gentlemen but not the villains . So they did not need to be too specific and the President would make a ruling in the event that a problem arose
回歸多年，反對派不斷鑽《議事規則》的空子，甚至歪曲《議事規則》，做了很多荒謬的事情，而且越來越激進，甚至癱瘓立法會，最後連"臭彈"也擲出來。
For many years after the handover of sovereignty the opposition had kept exploiting the loopholes of RoP and even distorted RoP doing many ridiculous things and becoming more and more radical . They went so far as to paralyse the Legislative Council and finally even resorted to hurl stink bombs
發展到今時今日，我們唯有修改《議事規則》，把這些漏洞堵塞。
Today as a result of these developments we have no alternative but to amend RoP in order to plug these loopholes
代理主席，今天修改的各項規則，我也支持，包括議員出席會議時的衣着問題。
Deputy President I support the amendments proposed to various rules today including the attire of Members attending meetings
全世界的議會開會的時候，官員和議員也會穿着莊重得體。
In places all over the world officials and Members of parliamentary assemblies dress decently and appropriately when attending meetings
這些是對場合的尊重，關乎議會的整體形象，其實不需要寫在《議事規則》也是基本的禮貌，大家應該知道怎樣做。
This is to show respect for the occasion and has a bearing on the overall image of the parliamentary assembly . It is a basic courtesy that actually does not need to be written in RoP for Members should know what to do
但是，近年，議員的衣着真的很隨意，有些人可能為了表達其反叛精神或表達自己的階級立場，或是要引人注目，但這些行為多多少少會破壞議會的莊嚴，對議會及其他出席會議的人是極度不尊重的行為。
However in recent years Members attire has been really quite free and casual . Some of them may wish to express their spirit of defiance or to express their class and position or they wish to attract attention . But these behaviours have in one way or another tarnished the solemnity of this Council and are extremely disrespectful to this Council and also to other people attending the meeting
既然有人不懂得尊重自己，現時唯有好像訂立校規般，寫明穿着的要求。
Since there are people who do not know how to respect themselves we have no alternative but to set out the attire requirement as if writing down a school rule
另外，議會亦提出了具體的機制，限制日後事務委員會及法案委員會的人數及產生辦法。
Moreover this Council has also proposed a specific mechanism to impose restrictions on the number of members of Panels and Bills Committees and also the method of their formation in the future
事實上，下一屆立法會將有90名議員，部分委員會要規限人數亦是無可奈何，而今次提出的建議有優點亦有缺點，但有關建議是大家商量出來的，所以值得支持。
In fact the next term of the Legislative Council will have 90 Members and imposing a limit on the number of members of some committees is the only alternative when nothing else can be done . While these proposals made this time around have their pros and cons they are the results of discussions by Members and are therefore worthy of support
不過，我個人認為，有關機制落實時應該有些彈性，議員之間應該有些默契，可以作出協調，因為有些個別的議員是需要加入與其界別或主要工作有關係的事務委員會，例如財經事務委員會起碼有3個重要的組成部分，包括銀行業、金融服務業及保險業。
Having said that I personally think some flexibility should be allowed in the implementation of the mechanism and there should be some tacit understanding among Members for coordination to be made . It is because some Members do need to join Panels that are related to their sectors or main duties . For example the Panel on Financial Affairs has at least three major components namely the banking industry financial services industry and insurance industry