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委員應知悉，這項條例草案只有一項修正案，其餘條文均沒有修正案。
Members should know that there is only one amendment to the Bill while other clauses are without amendment
我剛才已提醒委員，全體委員會的審議範圍應是：一是否支持一項由司長提出的修正案；及二是否支持各項條文整體納入《條例草案》。
I have reminded Members earlier that the scope of deliberation of the committee includes 1 whether Members support the amendment moved by the Secretary for Justice; and 2 whether Members support that clauses with no amendment stand part of the Bill
全體委員會不是法案委員會，而立法會會議的時間有限，全體委員會不應亦不可能重複法案委員會審議個別條文的工作。
The committee of the whole Council is not a Bills Committee and the meeting time of the Legislative Council is limited . The committee should not and cannot repeat the work of the Bills Committee in scrutinizing the Bill clause by clause
若議員能聚焦發言，全體委員會應可在合理時間內完成審議。
If Members can focus their speeches on the subject matter the committee of the whole Council should be able to finish its deliberation within a reasonable time
正如我剛才指出，審議法案並非本會的唯一職能。
As I pointed out earlier scrutiny of bills is not the only function of this Council
作為立法會主席，我有責任確保立法會能有效履行憲制職能。
As President of the Legislative Council I am responsible for ensuring that the Legislative Council is performing its constitutional functions
考慮到《條例草案》已耗用的審議時數、修正案的數目、全體委員會審議的範圍、議員發言的權利，以及本會仍有大量事項需要處理，我認為有必要作出適當平衡，為全體委員會審議設定時限。
Considering the hours spent on the scrutiny of the Bill the number of amendments to the Bill the scope of deliberation of the committee of the whole Council Members right to speak and a large number of outstanding business of this Council I think I have to strike a proper balance and set the time limit for deliberation in the committee of the whole Council
因此，根據《基本法》第七十二條第一項賦予立法會主席主持會議的權力，包括在適當情況下終止辯論及將議題付諸表決，我決定最遲在下午2時，即午飯休息後，表決修正案及條文納入《條例草案》。
Thus according to the powers to preside over meetings conferred on the President of the Legislative Council by Article 721 of the Basic Law which include the power to end a debate and put the question to vote I have decided that the question on the amendment and the question that the clauses stand part of the Bill will be put to vote at 2col00 pm the latest ie . after the lunch break
請委員發言時盡量精簡，讓更多委員可以發言。
Will Members please speak as concisely as possible so that more Members will have the chance to speak
有意發言的委員，請盡快按下"要求發言"按鈕。
Members who wish to speak please press the Request to speak button as soon as possible
若我認為委員發言離題或不斷重複本身或其他委員的論點，我會終止該委員發言。
If I consider that a Member has digressed or persisted in repetition of his own or other Members arguments I will ask him to stop speaking
大家也知道，有些議員並沒有加入法案委員會，他們有權在這個階段提出合理質疑，我希望主席諒解。
As Members may know Members who have not joined the Bills Committee have the right to raise reasonable questions at this stage . Hence Chairman I hope you would understand
我留意到，法案委員會只有4名議員加入，法案委員會亦已處理所有條文，而委員會報告中亦已作出清楚解釋。
I notice that only four Members have joined the Bills Committee; the Bills Committee has scrutinized all the clauses of the Bill and a clear explanation has been given in its report
這是我平衡所有因素後作出的決定。
This decision is made after I have balanced all the factors
請大家不要批評我的決定，而應盡量善用時間，在全體委員會審議階段就《條例草案》作精簡的表述。
Instead of criticizing my decision Members should make the best use of their time to concisely express their views on the Bill in the committee of the whole Council
代理主席，我這次想談論第6分部的問題，這個分部的題目是"為達致用詞一致而作出的修訂"。
Deputy Chairman at this point I would like to discuss some issues relating to Division 6 and the title of this division is Amendments to Achieve Consistency
因此，這不止是用詞一致的問題，還涉及提高罰款的問題。
Therefore this is not just a matter of consistency of expressions but also an increase in fine
我不會在此詳細論述，但有關這些變化的基礎，不論是法案委員會會議或是政府提交立法會的法律文件，均沒有詳細解說。
I am not going to elaborate here but no detailed explanation on the justifications of the relevant changes has been given either at the Bills Committee meetings or in the legal documents submitted by the Government to the Legislative Council
這方面的描述有欠清晰，亦令公眾產生疑惑，就是當政府說要達致用詞一致時，究竟涵蓋和適用範圍有多大？
There is no clear description in this regard and members of the public are unsure about the coverage and extent of the amendment when the Government vows to achieve consistency
有關的修訂是否涵蓋所有法例，以致凡看到相同的詞彙，便自動以新訂的第2級罰款作為基準？
Does the relevant amendment apply to all legislation such that any reference to the same term will be automatically revised using the new benchmark of a fine at level 2?
這牽涉到今次修訂為達致用詞一致而將3,000元罰款變成第2級罰款的做法，是否適用於所有法例的相關內容。
This involves the question of whether the present amendment to revise the fine of 3,000 to level 2 for the sake of consistency applies to the same reference in other legislation
如果不是的話，司長便應該清楚說明，令大家知所適從。
If it does there is an omission; if not the Secretary for Justice should give a clear explanation so that we will know what course to take
我很快的，因為司長剛才說其他議員的發言與今次議案無關，但我留意到很多其他同事的發言內容也牽涉到其他有關部分， 包括希望不同法例之間用詞達致一致的修訂內容。
I will be brief . The Secretary for Justice just said that the speeches of other Members were irrelevant to this motion yet I notice that the contents of speeches made by many other colleagues also involved other relevant parts including the amendment aiming to standardize the wordings used in different ordinances
所以，我認為當有這類問題出現時，司長是否應該也向我們作出解釋？
Therefore in my view should the Secretary for Justice give us an explanation when such kind of question has arisen?
胡志偉議員要求司長澄清剛才的發言。
Mr WU Chi - wai requests the Secretary for Justice to clarify the speech she made just now
律政司司長，你有否補充？
Secretary for Justice do you have anything to add?
正如律政司司長剛才所說，這項修正案主要是將《高等法院條例》中上訴法庭的組成由3名法官改為兩名。
According to the earlier speech of the Secretary for Justice this amendment mainly seeks to amend the High Court Ordinance to allow a bench in the Court of Appeal CA to be made up of two Justices of Appeal instead of three Justices of Appeal
我會在適當時間提醒議員。
I will give Members timely reminders
若議員重複自己或其他議員的論據，我會作出善意提醒，請他返回辯論的議題。
If a Member repeats his own or other Members arguments I will kindly remind him to return to the subject of the debate
這個問題是長期，還是短期？
Will this problem go on for long? . Or is it a short - term problem? . We have no answer to any of these questions
這一切都是未知之數，但這項改變牽一髮而動全身。
Yet this change will have far - reaching impact
如果聲請人覺得受到不公平對待而提出司法覆核，律政司司長也有責任告訴公眾，政府當局在前期已經做了很多工作，以釋除公眾疑慮，這樣我們才能夠得出一個結論，認為作出有關修訂是較為理想的做法，可提高整體效益......
If there are claimants seeking JR because of perceived unfair treatment the Secretary for Justice should ease public worries by reassuring the people that substantial preliminary work has been done on the part of the Administration . This is the only way to convince us that the amendment in question is desirable and can enhance the overall efficiency
我只是問律政司司長，是否應代表政府回應。
I was only asking the Secretary for Justice to respond on behalf of the Government
代理主席，就着《2019年漁業保護條例草案》的二讀辯論，民主黨首先要表明立場，我們支持本地漁民。
Deputy President in respect of the Second Reading debate on the Fisheries Protection Amendment Bill 2019 the Bill the Democratic Party needs to make clear its stance first . We support local fishermen
林卓廷議員比我更快按下"要求發言"按鈕，他剛才已說出部分原因，我想我們要先了解漁業可持續發展的情況。
What are the reasons? . Mr LAM Cheuk - ting who pressed the Request to speak button faster than I did already spelt out some of the reasons just now . I think we should first look into the sustainability of the fisheries industry
我當然十分支持報告的內容，但我們今天討論的《條例草案》只是處理一小部分問題而已，並且跟其他政策互相矛盾，所 以政府現時就漁業推行的措施根本無法令漁業達致可持續發展，也幫不了漁民多少。
Of course I fully support what was written in the report but the Bill under our discussion today only deals with a small part of the problems . Moreover it is in conflict with other policies . For this reason the measures currently adopted by the Government for the fisheries industry are in fact unable to foster sustainable fisheries
我相信稍後漁農界的何俊賢議員應該有更多意見發表。
Neither are they of much help to fishermen . I believe Mr Steven HO of the agriculture and fisheries sector should have more views to express in a while
此外，要禁止使用或借助非本地漁船進行捕魚活動，並限制使用或借助非漁船類別的船隻進行捕魚活動，以及設立漁業保護區。
Moreover it is necessary to prohibit fishing activities with the use or aid of non - local fishing vessels restrict fishing activities with the use or aid of non - fishing vessels and designate fisheries protection areas
這份報告相當詳細，還有提及一些其他措施，我稍後會再討論。
The report written in great detail also mentioned some other measures . I will go back to them later
問題是，有關修訂能否有效達致我們希望達到的政策目標，令漁業可持續發展呢？
The question is can the relevant amendment effectively achieve the policy objective which we wish to attain facilitating sustainable fisheries? . This time the Bill seeks to confer discretionary power on DAFC
原來船隻須領有有效運作牌照才能進行登記，不知道為何要好像穿兩條褲子般，既要領有牌照，又要進行登記。
It turned out that a vessel must possess a valid operating licence before it could be registered . I wonder why it has to both possess a licence and apply for registration as though wearing two pairs of trousers
是否還有其他原因呢？
Was there any other reason?
究竟行使酌情權的準則為何？
What are the actual criteria for exercising discretion?
何謂"署長認為適當的任何其他因素"呢？
What is meant by any other factor the Director considers appropriate?
條文並無清楚說明有關準則，我認為這種寫法不太清晰。
The provisions did not explicitly set out the relevant criteria . I consider the drafting not clear enough
文件不齊全又是否酌情豁免的考慮因素呢？
Is incomplete documentation also a factor of consideration for discretionary exemption?
這些並無清楚說明。
These are not expressly stated
有另外兩個很重要的原因。
There are two other important reasons
報告的附件四其實還提到政府需要控制捕撈力量，而控制捕撈力量包括甚麼呢？
In fact Annex IV to the Report has also proposed that the Government control the fishing effort . What does such control include?
包括要維持適當的漁船數目，即現時《條例草案》提出的修訂，要控制漁船的登記、數目及馬力等。
It includes maintaining an appropriate number of fishing vessels that means the amendment proposed in the present Bill controlling the registration number horsepower etc . of fishing vessels
另外要禁止在香港水域進行拖網捕魚活動，就此，我們已禁止拖網捕魚，但我們尚未禁止非本地漁船在本港水域捕魚，何俊賢議員也清楚知道此事。
Besides it is necessary to ban trawling in Hong Kong waters . In this connection we have banned trawling but we have not yet prohibited fishing by non - local vessels in Hong Kong waters . Mr Steven HO is also well aware of this
我們多年來聽到不少香港漁民投訴，指不少內地漁民非法越境闖入香港水域在香港捕魚，就這方面的情況，政府有否妥善執法呢？
Over the years we have heard quite a number of Hong Kong fishermen complain that many Mainland fishermen illegally entered Hong Kong waters to catch fish in Hong Kong . In view of such a situation has the Government properly enforced the law?
很明顯，政府做得很差。
Obviously the Government has done a lousy job
代理主席，關於執法問題，我們聽聞有人在香港水域，即藍色範圍，見到內地漁船。
Deputy President regarding law enforcement we heard that some people saw Mainland fishing vessels in Hong Kong waters that means the blue area
根據我們接獲的資料，內地船隻曾進入哪些香港水域非法捕魚呢？
According to the information received by us which part of Hong Kong waters have Mainland vessels entered to catch fish illegally?
其實香港水域範圍甚為細小，只涵蓋香港的陸地對出不多遠的範圍，但屬於香港的捕魚區竟然有那麼多內地漁船即黃色標記的這些闖入，足跡包括西貢、長洲、大嶼山、塔門等。
The Hong Kong waters actually cover only a small area not far from the land of Hong Kong . Yet surprisingly so many Mainland fishing vessels intruded into Hong Kongs fishing grounds―that means these ones marked in yellow―reaching such places as Sai Kung Cheung Chau Lantau Island and Ta Mun
有香港漁民表示，有時候在塔門一帶，每天可以看到數十艘內地漁船在非法捕魚，后海灣那邊當然亦有。
Some Hong Kong fishermen said that sometimes they saw dozens of Mainland fishing vessels illegally fishing in the Ta Mun area every day . It certainly also happened in Deep Bay
我需要確保議員的發言符合《議事規則》。
I need to ensure that Members speak in compliance with the Rules of Procedure
事實上，我們看見執法和檢控沒甚麼阻嚇力。
As a matter of fact we saw law enforcement and prosecution lack deterrence
有一宗個案，刑罰是監禁兩個月但緩刑兩年，完全沒有阻嚇力。
There was a case in which the sentence was imprisonment of two months suspended for two years thus producing no deterrent effect at all
為何這次修訂不增加罰則，保護本地漁民，以及打擊內地漁民來港非法捕魚呢？
Why did this amendment exercise not increase the penalty protect local fishermen and combat illegal fishing by Mainland fishermen in Hong Kong?
大陸對此也有規管，為何香港卻沒有規管呢？
Why is it not regulated in Hong Kong?
所以，問題是罰則太輕，沒有阻嚇力，法例措施未到位，這樣如何幫助漁民呢？
Hence the problem is that the penalty is too lenient carrying no deterrence . Given the inadequate legislative measures how can fishermen get any help?
我剛才提到，如果要推動漁業可持續發展，必須加強監管沿岸和海上的發展工程，但香港捕魚區一直在縮小，越來越受到填海和基建工程的影響。
As mentioned by me earlier to promote sustainable development of the fisheries industry it is imperative to step up monitoring of coastal and marine development projects . Yet the fishing grounds in Hong Kong have been shrinking being increasingly impacted by reclamation and infrastructural works . Deputy President following reclamation now Hong Kong waters have become smaller and smaller
代理主席，現時香港海域隨着填海變得越來越細小，之前有港珠澳大橋工程，之後要發展三跑，現在又說要發展"明日大嶼"，在中部水域興建1,000公頃至3,000公頃的人工島，還向立法會財務委員會申請撥款5億5,000多萬元以進行研究。
Earlier on there was the Hong Kong - Zhuhai - Macao Bridge project . Then there was development of the third runway . Now it is said there is the need for Lantau Tomorrow with the construction of artificial islands of 1 000 to 3 000 hectares in central waters
我想問，當進行大規模填海以興建人工島的時候，究竟......會對香港的水質造成多大影響呢？
May I ask during large - scale reclamation for the construction of the artificial islands actually what grave impact will it have on the water quality in Hong Kong?
我反對三讀的原因是，《2019年成文法條例草案》討論至今，律政司仍沒有提出具體的措施處理一旦《條例草案》通過後，聲請人或要求司法覆核的公眾人士所面對法律支援不足的問題。
My reason for opposing the Third Reading of the Statue Law Bill 2019 the Bill is that since our discussion on the Bill the Department of Justice has not put forward any specific measures for tackling the problem of insufficient legal support faced by claimants or members of the public seeking judicial review after the passage of the Bill
因此，通過《條例草案》根本不能夠改善現時司法覆核案件積壓的問題。
Therefore the passage of the Bill cannot alleviate the current backlog of judicial review cases at all
這次修訂《高等法院條例》的目的，是為了提升包括涉及免遣返聲請的司法覆核案件的人手調配和效率。
The purpose of amending the High Court Ordinance is to enhance the manpower deployment and efficiency in handling judicial review cases involving non - refoulement claims and so on
換言之，現時法庭處理這類免遣返聲請司法覆核個案的效率很低，但這並不代表政府慢工出細貨，亦不代表有關的程序工作細緻或支援充足。
In other words the current court efficiency in handling the judicial review cases in respect of non - refoulement claims is very low but this does not mean that the Government works slowly to produce good results nor the relevant procedures are meticulous or adequate support has been provided
現時聲請人遇到的問題，包括傳譯外語能力欠佳，過往從未有議員提過這一點，而我也是首次提出。
At present claimants said that they have encountered many problems including poor foreign language interpretation a problem which has not been mentioned by Members so far . This is also the first time that I raise this point
政府在過往答覆議員的書面質詢時曾清楚表示，聲請人主要來自印度、巴基斯坦、孟加拉、越南等南亞或東南亞國家，而政府亦很清楚這些國家的國民並非以英語為母語。
In its replies to Members written questions in the past the Government clearly indicated that claimants mainly came from South Asian countries or South East Asian countries such as India Pakistan Bangladesh and Vietnam and the Government was also well aware that the mother tongues of the nationals of these countries were not English
以印度為例，雖然英文是其官方語言，但這並不代表所有印度國民皆以英文作為母語。
Take India as an example although English is its official language it does not mean that the mother tongues of all the nationals of India are English
根據聯合國教育、科學及文化組織的統計，世界上有半數語言集中在8個國家，其中有400多種屬於印度，即是說這些聲請人是400多種印度語言的其中一種的使用者。
According to the statistics from the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization half of the worlds languages are concentrated in eight countries and more than 400 of them belong to India . That is to say these claimants are the speakers of one of the 400 - odd Indian languages
另一個例子是越南，我在深水埗曾與很多越南街友接觸，他們以越南語為母語。
Another example is Vietnam . I have been in contact with many Vietnamese street friends in Sham Shui Po and their mother tongue is Vietnamese
因此，通過這項《條例草案》根本無法改善現時司法覆核案件積壓的問題。
Therefore the passage of the Bill simply cannot alleviate the current problem of backlog of judicial review cases
主席，我不逐項讀出，因為在文件中已經顯示了。
94 . Chairman I will not read them out one by one because they are listed in the paper
關於《尚存配偶及子女撫恤金條例》的修訂歷史，其實出現了一個很奇怪的情況。
Regarding the history of amending the Surviving Spouses and Childrens Pensions Ordinance a strange situation has actually arisen
因為之後有兩個分部也出現了類似情況，所以我特意組合在一起，希望在不重複的情況下提出，也希望司長稍後會花一些時間回應我，或是之後可以作出跟進。
The reason is that a similar problem occurs in two other divisions I have deliberately grouped the problems together to avoid repetition . I also hope that the Secretary for Justice can spend some time to respond to my point or follow the matter up afterwards
在第131條"一般罰則及將犯罪者逐出泳池的權力"中，指出有甚麼人會被處罰第1級罰款及監禁14天，這涉及執法問題。
Section 131 which concerns general penalties and power to remove offenders from swimming pool specifies what kind of persons shall be liable to a fine at level 1 and to imprisonment for 14 days . This provision concerns law enforcement . Conditions under which a person shall be liable to punishment include contravention of section 106
當然，現時作出修訂，我們不會反對，我認為這一項修訂當然要執行，因為這個"烏龍"實在太大，也太遲被發現。
Certainly we will not oppose the current amendment . I think the provision certainly has to be amended because the blunder is really too big and too late to be identified
現時作出修訂，重新把第102條的情況，即如果有任何人未繳付第1款所指的適當費用即是沒有繳付入場費則除非事先獲得管理員准許，否則不得進入泳池場地範圍內，就是以此取代了第106條，令未繳款而進入泳池的人會被處罰，嚴正執法。
The provision is now amended such that section 106 is substituted with section 102 which provides that except with the prior permission of an attendant no person shall enter the precincts of a swimming pool without first having paid the appropriate fee under subsection 1 . The law will then be strictly enforced
我向主席承諾不會太重複一些論點，所以我十分順從地說到最後一點，就是第6分部的字眼。
As I have promised the Chairman that I will not repeat the previous arguments I will come to my last point which relates to the wordings in Division 6
我不是好像之前數位同事，如楊岳橋議員等討論"的的了了"，主席，這一點比較麻煩，我要鋪陳一下，便是關於"為達致用詞一致而作出的修訂"。
My approach will be different from some colleagues who have spoken before such as Mr Alvin YEUNG who discussed the Chinese characters 的的了了 . Chairman the point I am going to make is rather cumbersome and I have to explain in detail . It concerns Amendments to Achieve Consistency
換言之，今次修訂不僅好像是字面所說的，"為達致用詞一致而作出的修訂"，現在其實是增加罰款。
In other words the current amendment is not only an amendment to achieve consistency but an actual increase in the amount of fine
這便引申出法律上值得思考或本會經常討論的問題，無論有關罰款調整是增加或減少，背後是有原因的，而當局原本告訴我們，今次修訂只是"為達致用詞一致"， 但事實上，現在的修訂不是，將不服從擔任陪審員的罰款從過往最高的3,000元提升至最高5,000元，最少我在這裏是不曾聽聞的。
This has created a legal issue worth considering or has often been discussed in this Council that is any upward or downward adjustment in the amount of fine must be supported with justifications . The authorities have initially told us that the amendment is to achieve consistency only but this is not the case with this amendment as the penalty for refusing to serve as a juror has been increased from a maximum of 3,000 to a maximum of 5,000 . I at least have not heard of the increase before
我也希望主席公平地提一提，不要只是把矛頭指向我們，因為有這麼多法案委員會，不同同事亦要負責不同會議，有不同組合，今次有這樣的組合，當然有其原因。
I wish that Chairman could be fair and would not fire criticisms at us . Given that there are so many Bills Committees and Members are responsible for attending different meetings there are certainly reasons for the composition of the Bills Committee concerned
主席，我希望你耐心聆聽我的發言，不要太快作出判斷。
President I hope you will listen to my speech patiently instead of making judgments too quickly
我稍後亦會因應你的口味，先立論，說出我的數個論點是甚麼，讓我們有較良性的溝通。
I will first set forth my several arguments according to your preference so that we can have a healthier communication
我的發言是對《2019年漁業保護條例草案》提出質疑，以及闡述民主黨對《條例草案》有保留的原因。
I speak to raise questions on the Fisheries Protection Amendment Bill 2019 the Bill and elaborate the reasons behind the Democratic Partys reservations about the Bill
《條例草案》貌似一項技術性的修訂議案就如很多同事剛才也提到旨在填補2012年通過的原修訂條例草案的漏洞，令到當時因為各種原因不能按時登記的漁船可以重新登記，讓漁船可以合法地在香港水域 作業。
The Bill seemingly a technical amendment as mentioned by many Honourable colleagues just now aims at plugging the loopholes in the amendment bill passed in 2012 allowing fishing vessels which failed to register on time back then due to various circumstances to re - register and operate legitimately in Hong Kong waters
是次修例表面看起來是一件很簡單的事，沒有太大爭議；但如果細心想想，原來背後還是有一些重大的爭議點，而且有機會令《漁業保護條例》的立法精神及整個漁業發展政策的原意出現大量問題。
The amendment this time seems simple and uncontroversial . However if we think about it carefully there are actually major controversies which may give rise to numerous problems concerning the legislative spirit of the Fisheries Protection Ordinance Cap . 171 and the original intent of the fisheries policies
如果《條例草案》獲得通過，政策便會變得不協調、不兼容、不清晰，並出現一些自相矛盾的地方。
Upon passage of the Bill the policies will become inconsistent incompatible unclear and self - contradictory in some areas
縱使我們支持漁業可持續發展，但在現階段，我們對《條例草案》表示懷疑及反對。
Despite our support for the sustainable development of the fisheries industry we remain sceptical about the Bill and oppose to it at this stage
大家都明白，所有法例背後當然有一連串的立法原意、精神或事件背景、問題或促進社會良性發展的方向，而政府的功能就是要訂立一些法例來達致某個政策目標。
As we all know there are surely legislative intent spirit background issues and directions for promoting the positive development of society behind each piece of legislation . The function of the Government is to achieve specific policy goals through the enactment of legislation
根據數位同事剛才的發言，我知道除了何俊賢議員之外，有些同事也希望協助漁民平反身份。
According to the speeches made by several Honourable colleagues just now I understand that in addition to Mr Steven HO some colleagues also want to assist fishermen in re - establishing their status . However the background of some issues is indeed suspicious
然而，有些事情背景的確令人懷疑，《條例草案》現時賦予漁護署署長權力之後，由於沒有指明是否只容許那300多艘漁船重新登記，不期然會有很多原本不是漁民的人登記漁船，而香港未來會有一個很大型的填海工程，這會否因而構成一些與利益輸送有關的聯想，令到一些正正經經但上次滄海遺珠的漁民，今次不單不可以名正言順地取回身份，還要背上污名？
As the Bill empowers DAFC to exercise discretion without specifying whether re - registration is limited to the some 300 fishing vessels many people not engaged in fisheries may also register their fishing vessels . Given that a massive reclamation project will be implemented in Hong Kong will this be associated with transfer of benefits? . Will genuine fishermen who failed to register last time be stigmatized and cannot re - establish their status righteously?
主席，最原始的源頭應該是政府在2006年12月成立的漁業可持續發展委員會。
President the idea originated from the Committee on Sustainable Fisheries established by the Government in December 2006
何俊賢議員對此一定熟悉，他稍後發言時可以指教我們，看看我有否理解錯誤，亦可以就我剛才提及政府種種自相矛盾的做法作出解說。
Mr Steven HO must be familiar with this . He may give us some advice in his speech later on and see if I have got it wrong . He may also give an explanation of the Governments contradictory measures that I have mentioned just now
如果《條例草案》最終獲得通過，授權漁護署署長行使酌情權之後，會否"累街坊"和"攬炒"呢？
If DAFC is empowered to exercise discretion upon the passage of the Bill will people be brought into trouble all together?
首先，2006年12月成立的漁業可持續發展委員會發表了一份《漁業可持續發展委員會報告》，當中談到數件我們耳熟能詳、小時候唸書也得知的事︰第一，由於過度開發，全球捕撈漁業資源出現衰退。
First of all in the Report of the Committee on Sustainable Fisheries published by the Committee on Sustainable Fisheries established in December 2006 several issues that we have been very familiar with since childhood were discussed first global capture fisheries resources have shown signs of decline due to over - exploitation
香港的情況更為嚴重，捕撈的漁穫由從前體型大的高價值品種，變成現在體型細小的低價值品種，或者漁民因賺不到多少錢而稱之為"賤價魚"的品種，這樣就導致剛才所說的結果。
The situation in Hong Kong is even more serious in that catch composition has changed from large high - value species to small low - value species or species that fishermen call cheap fish due to the small profit margin . This has led to the result just mentioned
在整體海洋資源不斷枯竭下，大家均受影響。
Everyone is affected by the depletion of the overall marine resources
市民能享用美味的海鮮產品，漁民又可維持生計，取得平衡點，那是最理想。
It would be most desirable if a balance can be struck between the publics enjoyment of delicious seafood and fishermens maintaining their livelihood
《漁業保護條例》中的確有一部分當時沒有清楚寫明，我認為是美中不足的地方，但若現在修改又可能會帶來另一個美中不足之處。
Indeed a part of the Fisheries Protection Ordinance was not clearly written back then which for me was somewhat like a fly in the ointment . The same may happen again with the current amendment
我現在想問，就我剛才鋪陳的第一點，究竟《條例草案》賦予漁護署署長怎樣的酌情標準？
My question now is with regard to the first point I have just discussed what is the extent of discretion DAFC is empowered under the Bill?
我現在跳到下一個要點，即我剛才提到非法捕魚的部分。
I now jump to the next point which is about illegal fishing that I have mentioned earlier
我認為整項措施好像在立法原意、精神以至操作方面，都極為不協調和不兼容。
I find the measure extremely inconsistent and incompatible with the legislative intent spirit and implementation