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馬克思提出"自在與自為"，工人意識要提升，要醒覺，要靠支持勞工權益的人、搞工會的人，一步一腳印去組織起我們的工友，我們有強大的工會力量，不論任何陣營也好，無論在議會裏面、在街頭，在各個範疇去迫政府，迫僱主改善我們的勞工權益。
According to MARXs theory of class in itself and class for itself workers consciousness should be enhanced and awakened . Workers must rely on those who support the fight for labour rights and interests as well as those trade union activists by taking gradual yet pragmatic steps to organize workers . And then we will have the strong power and the solid support from trade unions no matter which camps they belong to to press both the Government and employers to improve labour rights and interests on various fronts on every occasion at the meetings of this Council or on the streets
而不是單純在議會裏按一個掣，好像很美麗的圖畫，贏了姿勢，是否會輸掉實際呢？
It should not be like that kind of beautiful picture A simple press of the button at Council meetings will work magic . After all will the winning posture mean nothing at all but actual loss?
我希望議會的同事能夠深思一下，多謝各位。
I do hope Members of this Council will reflect on this . Thank you
主席，我謹以《2018年僱傭條例草案》委員會主席的身份，匯報法案委員會的商議工作。
President in my capacity as Chairman of the Bills Committee on Employment Amendment Bill 2018 I report the deliberations of the Bills Committee
法案委員會與政府當局一共舉行了兩次會議，以下我會扼要匯報委員關注及有不同意見的事項。
The Bills Committee held two meetings with the Administration . Here below I will briefly report the matters over which Bills Committee members have expressed concern or differed in opinion
委員普遍歡迎增加法定侍產假日數的立法建議，但部分委員認為，僱員應享有7天法定侍產假，好讓在職父親能夠更加全面照顧他們的初生嬰兒及伴侶。
Members of the Bills Committee generally welcome the legislative proposal to extend the duration of statutory paternity leave . Some members however are of the view that male employees should be entitled to a seven - day statutory paternity leave so that working fathers can more comprehensively take care of their new born baby and their partner
就此，梁耀忠議員、張超雄議員、許智峯議員及范國威議員，分別表示有意提出修正案，建議將法定侍產假日數增加至7天。
In this connection Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Dr Fernando CHEUNG Mr HUI Chi - fung and Mr Gary FAN have separately indicated their intention to propose an amendment to extend the duration of statutory paternity leave to seven days
黃碧雲議員亦提出修正案，建議在法例獲制定並生效後1年，將侍產假的日數增加至7天。
Dr Helena WONG has also proposed an amendment to extend the duration of paternity leave to seven days one year after the commencement of the enacted Ordinance
這些委員指出，將法定侍產假由3天增加至5天，會令中小微企增加成本，以 及更難調配人手。
These members opine that increasing statutory paternity leave from three days to five days will increase the cost of small medium and micro enterprises making them even more difficult to deploy manpower
因此，進一步增加侍產假日數，會令這些僱主面對更大的營運困難。
Hence these employers will face even bigger operational difficulties if paternity leave is further increased to seven days
政府當局表示，在考慮增加侍產假日數至5天的建議時，已參考由勞工處就法定侍產假實施情況進行檢討的結果、僱員的意見，以及僱主的承擔能力。
According to the Administration in considering the proposed increase of paternity leave to five days it has made reference to the result of the review conducted by the Labour Department on the implementation of statutory paternity leave the views of employees and the affordability of employers including small and medium enterprises
政府當局強調，目前的立法建議得到勞工顧問委員會的共識，是當局唯一可接受的方案。
The Administration stresses that the present legislative proposal has secured the consensus of the Labour Advisory Board LAB and is considered the only acceptable option
因應政府當局對侍產假日數的立場，何啟明議員提出修正案，建議向政府施加法定責任，規定須在條例獲制定並開始生效後，最少每年檢討一次法定侍產假日數。
In the light of the Administrations stance on the duration of paternity leave Mr HO Kai - ming proposed an amendment to impose a statutory obligation on the Government to review the number of paternity leave days at least once in every year after the commencement of the enacted ordinance
在法案委員會討論這項建議時，大部分委員指出，在2014年研究法定侍產假制度的立法建議時，當局表示會於法定侍產假實施1年後檢討安排，但自法定侍產假於2015年2月實施以來，政府當局只進行了一次檢討，而最終亦只建議將3天法定侍產假增加至5天。
In discussing this proposal at the Bills Committee a majority of the members mentioned the Administrations commitment in 2014 when the legislative proposal of a statutory paternity leave regime was considered . The Administration undertook at that time that it would review the arrangement of statutory paternity leave one year after its implementation . However since the implementation of statutory paternity leave in February 2015 the Administration has only conducted one review which led to the proposed increase of statutory paternity leave from three days to five days
這些委員同意修正案，認為要進一步改善侍產假福利，政府當局應承諾每年檢討侍產假日數。
While agreeing to the amendment these members consider it necessary to further enhance the paternity leave benefits and opine that the Administration should undertake to review the duration of paternity leave annually
部分其他委員則不支持這項建議。
Some other members do not support this proposal
他們認為，在改善侍產假福利一事上，各方應求取合理平衡，同時兼顧僱主的承擔能力及僱員的利益，以及尊重勞顧會就法定侍產假安排的共識。
They take the view that on the matters related to the enhancement of paternity leave benefits various stakeholders should strike a proper balance having regard to the affordability of employers and the interests of employees and respect the consensus reached in LAB on the statutory paternity leave arrangement
政府當局表示，當局一直有因應社會和經濟發展狀況，不時檢討勞工法例。而在改善僱員福利一事上，當局一向以平衡僱員的利益和僱主的承擔能力為大前提。
According to the Administrations response it has been from time to time reviewing the labour legislation in the light of the socio - economic development in Hong Kong and improving employees benefits on the principle of balancing the interests of employees and the affordability of employers
因此，當局認為不需要就檢討法定侍產假訂立時間表，更加無須以立法方式達到此目的。
The Administration thus does not see the need to provide a timetable for the review of statutory paternity leave or find it necessary to achieve this purpose by way of legislation
法案委員會在2018年7月25日的會議上，在過半數參與表決的委員同意下，決定由我代表法案委員會動議這項修正案，但主席已於較早前裁定，由於這項修正案具有《議事規則》第576條所指由公帑負擔的效力，因此不可提出。
At the meeting of the Bills Committee on 25 July 2018 it was decided by way of a majority vote that I would move an amendment to that effect on behalf of the Bills Committee . However the President ruled earlier that the amendment was inadmissible as it would have a charging effect within the meaning of Rule 576 of the Rules of Procedure
此外，有部分委員認為，僱員在放取法定侍產假時，應該可享有全薪，而不是按產假和病假薪酬的計算方法，將侍產假薪酬款額定為僱員每天平均工資的五分之四。
Moreover some members are of the view that instead of setting the rate of paternity leave pay at four fifths of an employees average daily wages as in the case of maternity leave and sick leave employees on statutory paternity leave should be entitled to full pay
就委員關注到，法定侍產假並不適用於流產個案，政府當局表示，會在檢討產假時，研究有關流產個案的種種關注。
In response to members concern over statutory paternity leave being inapplicable to a miscarriage the Administration says that it will look into various issues in relation to miscarriage cases when conducting the review on maternity leave
最後，法案委員會對於政府當局稍後提出的1項技術性修訂，以及恢復《條例草案》二讀辯論，並無異議。
Lastly the Bills Committee has no objection to the technical amendments to be proposed by the Administration later on and the resumption of the Second Reading debate on the Bill
主席，我想就《條例草案》發表一些個人看法。
President I now would like to express my personal views on the Bill
故此，我會集中有關10項獲得批准的修正案發表意見。
I will thus focus on the 10 admissible amendments
分別由梁耀忠議員、張超雄議員、范國威議員、許智峯議員及黃碧雲議員就侍產假日數所提出的修正案，要求建議5天的侍產假增至7天。
These amendments which are proposed by Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Dr Fernando CHEUNG Mr Gary FAN Mr HUI Chi - fung and Dr Helena WONG respectively seek to extend the proposed five - day paternity leave to seven days . The Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB and I have reservation about these amendments
至於在法案委員會討論有關事項時，部分委員認為將法定侍產假日數增加至5天，仍然不足以讓父親照顧其初生子女及伴侶。
Without the support of either sector it is difficult to implement any relevant legislative proposals and they will be doomed to failure . During the discussions in the Bills Committee some members expressed the view that an extended 5 - day statutory paternity leave was still not enough for a father to take care of his newborn baby and partner
他們並指出，在《2014年僱傭條例草案》委員會進行商議期間，當時的委員已經促請當局將法定侍產假日數增至7天，所以認為政府當局要認真考慮將是次法定侍產假日數進一步增加至7天。
They pointed out that during the deliberations of the former Bills Committee on the Employment Amendment Bill 2014 members then had already urged for extending the duration of statutory paternity leave to seven days . They therefore took the view that the Administration should seriously consider further extending statutory paternity leave to seven days this time
儘管如此，我亦相信隨着社會發展，有更多人討論和互相理解，加上政府鼓勵，在僱主的能力範圍內也會盡量讓勞工福利得以循序漸進地改善。
Coupled with the impacts of the China - United States trade war that will gradually be felt in our economy many enterprises find it difficult to remain viable . That said I believe that through more discussions and better mutual understanding when society progresses together with the support from the Government employers will make all possible effort within their means to progressively improve the benefits of workers
事實上，單靠法例規定侍產假之外，現時也有很多商業機構意識到增加員工福利的重要性，並主動增加產假和侍產假，有些公司早於立法會討論《條例草案》前已經給予員工5天侍產假，而且更有公司設有6天侍產假。
In fact on top of providing statutory paternity leave as required by legislation many commercial enterprises are now aware of the importance of offering better employee benefits and on their initiative have granted longer maternal leave and paternity leave for their employees . Even before the Legislative Council discussed the Bill some companies have already provided a five - day paternity leave or even a six - day paternity leave for their employees
因此，我深信員工是公司重要資源，只要僱主有能力也希望給予優厚條件來留下員工。
As employees are the important resources of a company I do believe employers will be willing to offer attractive employment terms to retain their staff as long as they can afford
當然，我們亦期望政府能夠提出措施作為鼓勵企業為員工提供更多福利的誘因。
Of course we also hope that the Government can roll out measures to serve as incentives for enterprises to provide more benefits for their employees
與此同時，侍產假是為初生嬰兒的父親而制訂的，希望他們的伴侶在產後能夠在情緒上獲得支援，讓身體早日恢復，亦避免有產後抑鬱症的可能，妻子面對困難時有丈夫陪伴在旁，而且丈夫可以學習和幫忙照顧嬰兒，是能增添家庭和諧。
Moreover paternity leave is intended for fathers of newborn babies in order that they can give emotional support to their partners and help them to recover early after giving birth and guard against the possibility of having postnatal depression . Paternity leave can enable husbands to accompany their wives in their difficult times while learning how and helping to take care of the newborn babies . This will enhance the harmony of the family
在大家努力爭取侍產假的同時，我希望政府當局亦要加強宣傳和教育，包括以不同形式的媒體進行宣傳，清楚說明設立侍產假的本意，不是讓這些嬰兒的父親撇開家人自己放假去"吃喝玩樂"，令侍產假的原有意義盡失。
Given the request for better paternity leave entitlement I hope that the Administration can also step up promotion and education through different media channels to clearly explain the intended purpose of providing paternity leave . It serves to remind that no fathers of newborn babies should only enjoy the holiday by having fun themselves and leave their family members in the lurch . This will definitely defeat the original purpose of paternity leave
主席，我謹此陳辭，反對各項修正案。
With these remarks President I oppose all the amendments proposed by Members
港鐵公司分別於2016年12月底、2017年3月底、2017年7月底、 2018年1月底和2018年7月底向政府提交該5個鐵路項目的建議書。
MTRCL submitted proposals for these five railway projects to the Government in end December 2016 end March 2017 end July 2017 end January 2018 and end July 2018 respectively
運房局、路政署及相關政策局/部門正就建議書內容進行評估，並要求港鐵公司進一步提供資料，補充有關建議的細節，以確保其建議切實可行，並能為社會帶來最大的裨益。
The Transport and Housing Bureau the Highways Department and relevant bureauxdepartments are evaluating the proposals and have requested MTRCL to provide additional information and supplement details . In carrying out the evaluation our main focus is to ensure that the proposals are practically feasible and can bring maximum benefits to the society
鑒於房屋供應緊張，而鐵路發展有可能產生潛在的房屋供應，政府正檢視屯門南延線和北環線的鐵路方案，爭取盡快就方案諮詢公眾，並繼續進行東九龍線、東涌西延線和北港島線的詳細規劃工作，以及展開洪水橋站及南港島線的詳細規劃工作。
Due to the tight housing supply and the potential housing supply that may be brought about by railway development the Government is reviewing the proposals for the Tuen Mun South Extension and Northern Link and will strive to undertake public consultation on these proposals as soon as possible . We will also carry on with the detailed planning for the East Kowloon Line Tung Chung West Extension and North Island Line and will embark on detailed planning for Hung Shui Kiu Station and the South Island Line West
主席，政府於4年前公布的《策略》建議在直至2031年的規劃期內完成7個新鐵路項目，現時距2031年只有13年，加上市民亦期待這些能對鐵路網絡作出重要改善的新項目可分階段落成及投入服務，因此急需政府"開綠燈"，最低限度啟動部分工程。
President in the Railway Development Strategy 2014 published four years ago the Government recommended the completion of seven new railway projects within the planning period of up to 2031 . Given that there are only 13 years left and there is public anticipation that such new projects which will bring significant improvements to our railway network can be completed and commissioned in phases the Government should give the relevant proposals the green light as early as possible so that at least some of the projects can be kick - started
不過，運房局局長今天在其主體答覆中，對我質詢內最受市民及工程業界關心的部分，亦即該7個鐵路項目的落實時間表卻避而不答。
However in his main reply the Secretary for Transport and Housing has evaded answering the part of my question about which Hong Kong people and members of the engineering sector are most concerned that is the implementation timetable for the seven new railway projects
我想問局長，既然運房局早在4年前已公布《策略》，是否可將上述落實時間表的腹稿告知本會？
May I ask the Secretary given that the Transport and Housing Bureau already published the Strategy as early as four years ago can he present to this Council a draft implementation timetable of the projects?
主席，多謝盧議員提出的補充質詢。
President I thank Ir Dr LO for his supplementary question
基於社會的最新發展，例如房屋供應、如何使之與鐵路規劃和建設互相配合，在提供交通運輸服務之餘同時作出房屋供應，帶來協同效應，我們需要在這過程中，為照顧社會的最新發展和市民的最新訴求，花一些時間作出相關的整合。
In the light of the latest social developments such as our housing supply and how we should tie it in with railway planning and construction so as to bring about synergy effects of providing transportation services and housing at the same time we need to spend some time on making some consolidation in the process having regard to the latest social developments and aspirations of the community
至於落實時間表方面，我剛才已經指出，當局基本上已就屯門南延線進行了相當多的研究和審視工作，稍後便會向議會進行諮詢。
As for the implementation timetable I already pointed out just now that the Government had basically conducted a lot of studies on and reviewed the proposal for the Tuen Mun South Extension and would consult the Legislative Council later on
整體來說，我們的態度是完成一項工作便推出一項；做好一項規劃便進行一項諮詢。
On the whole our attitude is one of launching a project once it is ready for implementation and undertaking public consultation on a proposal when its planning is completed
但是，我希望盧議員能夠理解，在剛才所說情況下，有些新元素已然出現，也有部分工作需要顧及"明日大嶼願景"的規劃和影響，以免出現重複。
Nevertheless I hope Ir Dr LO will understand that under the circumstances described just now we have to take some new elements into consideration and some of our work needs to give regard to the planning and implications of the Lantau Tomorrow Vision in order to avoid duplication
尤其是剛才所說的"明日大嶼願景"與屯荃鐵路的相互效應，也需要一併考慮，因為一個區域的發展、人口增加，以至交通運輸配套，有需要作出無縫的結合。
In particular with regard to the Lantau Tomorrow Vision mentioned just now and the Tuen Mun - Tsuen Wan Link the mutual effects they will create on one and the other should be considered in parallel because there is a need to achieve seamless integration of the development of a district with its population growth and ancillary transport facilities
所以，在這方面，請盧議員給予我們多一些時間，讓我們將有關工作做好，我們會盡快返回議會進行公眾諮詢。
Hence in this connection we hope Ir Dr LO will give us more time to do a good job of the work . We will come back to the Legislative Council to undertake public consultation on the proposal as early as possible
主席，根據大嶼山發展諮詢委員會過往所作的討論，以及有關《香港2030+》的公眾諮詢，東大嶼都會的運輸基建概念和走線圖，基本上是由喜靈洲穿過梅窩和大嶼南，再接駁至東涌，藉以貫通南北大嶼，並將大嶼山連繫至新界西和各區。
President according to past discussions at the Lantau Development Advisory Committee and the public consultation paper of the Hong Kong 2030 Towards a Planning Vision and Strategy Transcending 2030 under the basic concept and alignment plan of transport infrastructural development for East Lantau Metropolis a road was proposed to be constructed to link up Hei Ling Chau and Tung Chung via Mui Wo and South Lantau thereby providing a through road connecting South Lantau with North Lantau and linking up Lantau Island further with New Territories West and various districts
但是，現時提出的"明日大嶼願景"的陸路交通走線，已由原來從梅窩出發變成靠近愉景灣，完全忽視了大嶼南和梅窩居民的需要，並明顯有別於《香港2030+》的規劃。
However as reflected by the road traffic route proposed now for the Lantau Tomorrow Vision Mui Wo will no longer be adopted as the starting point and the whole alignment has shifted to the direction towards Discovery Bay . As a result the needs of residents in South Lantau and Mui Wo will be totally neglected and such a design has obviously deviated from the planning made in Hong Kong 2030 Study
大嶼南居民的人口數目和愉景灣相若，但以旅遊活動量、旅客量、景點數目及市民受用性等的比較而言，梅窩對增設一條陸路交通幹道的需求確實較愉景灣為大。
The population of South Lantau is comparable to that of Discovery Bay but when it comes to the comparisons made in such aspects as the intensity of tourism activities passenger volume the number of tourist attractions and usability there is indeed a greater need to provide an additional land trunk road in Mui Wo than in Discovery Bay
究竟"明日大嶼願景"的陸路交通走線為何？
What exactly is the road alignment planned for the Lantau Tomorrow Vision?
剛才所提及的東大嶼都會，以及"明日大嶼願景"，兩者既有類似的地方，但亦有不同之處。
There are both similarities and differences between the East Lantau Metropolis mentioned just now and the Lantau Tomorrow Vision
相信大家也記得，關於大嶼山的發展有一個理解，那便是"北發展、南保育"，而根據我的理解，就"明日大嶼願景"，這個概念仍然適用。
Members may recall that with regard to the development of Lantau Island a direction of Development in the North Conservation for the South has been mapped out and to my understanding the concept is also applicable to the Lantau Tomorrow Vision
至於日後的交通配套，以至鐵路甚或是主要幹道的走線安排，我理解發展局稍後會向議會申請撥款進行研究，並相信劉議員剛才提出的意見，發展局的同事已相當清楚。
As for the provision of ancillary transport facilities in future as well as the planned alignment of railway lines or even major roads in Lantau I understand that the Development Bureau will apply to the Legislative Council later for funding to conduct a study in this respect
我亦會將有關意見轉達發展局的同事，以便他們在日後的研究過程中一併考慮。
I am sure our colleagues in the Development Bureau fully understand Mr LAUs views expressed just now and I will also convey them to relevant officers in the Bureau so that they will take them into consideration in the study in future
關於第四次整體運輸研究，政府仍然認為大方向沒有分別，所以只需要採取一些"斬件式"的措施，便可解決問題。
With regard to the fourth comprehensive transport study the Government still maintains its general direction and considers that the problem can be resolved with the adoption of some piecemeal measures
我想告訴局長，如果這個問題真的能夠以他所說的方法解決，我們今天面對的交通擠塞狀況便不會如此嚴重。
I would like to tell the Secretary that if the problem can really be solved by adopting the method suggested by him we will not be facing such a serious problem of traffic congestion now
我想問局長，政府會否再次認真考慮？
May I ask the Secretary whether the Government will seriously reconsider our request?
根據過往經驗， 在某些情況下，這對完成研究的時間差距會有一定影響。
Past experiences reveal that under some circumstances there will be certain implications on the timing of completing the study
為了試圖從這個角度出發，我們早前諮詢交通事務委員會並獲得其支持，以進行《跨越2030年的鐵路及主要幹道策略性研究》。
This exactly was our objective when we consulted the Panel on Transport earlier and secured its support for undertaking the Strategic Studies on Railways and Major Roads beyond 2030
交通運輸網絡的基建配套，首先必須有骨幹藍圖。
It is because as far as infrastructural support for our transportation network is concerned an overall blueprint should first of all be drawn up
按照現行公共交通政策，這個骨幹藍圖須以公共交通為本，鐵路為骨幹。
And under the existing public transport policy the guiding principle of drawing up such an overall blueprint is to develop a public transport - oriented system with railway as the backbone
我相信在這方面，大家的意見是一致的，不同之處只是處理時序或安排而已。
In this connection I think we do share the same views of Members only that our views are different on the timing sequence or arrangements for handling the relevant work
在進行有關研究的過程中，我們會採用全面的交通運輸策略研究理念。
During the course of conducting the study we will adopt the concept of developing a comprehensive transportation strategy
希望日後在推展有關工作時，能與易議員和交通運輸界人士多作溝通，集思廣益，讓日後的研究或規劃做得更好。
I hope that in taking forward work in this respect in future more communication can be made with Mr YICK and members of the transport sector so that we may tap collective wisdom and carry out a better study or planning
主席，新界東鐵路系統最近曾出現兩次較大型的癱瘓事故。
President railway operations in New Territories East were twice paralyzed recently on a relatively major scale
第一次是因為颱風"山竹"導致塌樹，令鐵路系統受到影響；第二次則是早前在3天之內兩度發生有人墮軌的事件，以致大埔和北區市民未能使用東鐵線前往九龍。
The first incident occurred when Hong Kong was struck by Typhoon Mangkhut after which railway operations were affected by the incidence of a large number of tree collapse cases . The second incident occurred earlier when two cases involving passengers falling onto railway tracks were recorded within three days thus rendering it impossible for residents in Tai Po and the North District to take the East Rail Line and travel to Kowloon
按現時的鐵路系統安排，東面依靠東鐵線，西面則依靠西鐵線，但兩者之間並無連接。
Under the existing arrangements in our railway network commuters on the east side and the west side of the territory have to rely respectively on the East Rail Line and the West Rail Line for travelling to and from Kowloon but the two railway lines are not linked up
事實上，在現時的規劃中有一條北環線連接東鐵線和西鐵線，但這條北環線已討論了十多二十年，至今仍未付諸實行，我不知道當中原因何在。
As a matter of fact the construction of the Northern Link has been proposed to link the East Rail Line up with the West Rail Line but discussions in this respect have been going on for nearly 20 years yet no action has been taken so far to implement the railway project . I wonder what are the reasons
我們就着北環線及古洞站進行的推展工作從來未曾停止。
We have never stopped working on the implementation of the Northern Link and Kwu Tung Station
港鐵公司已於2017年3月向政府提交有關北環線的建議書，而正如我剛才所說，運房局、路政署及相關政策局/部門已就建議書進行評估，並要求港鐵公司進一步提供資料。
MTRCL already submitted its proposal for the implementation of the Northern Link in March 2017 and as I have pointed out earlier the Transport and Housing Bureau the Highways Department and relevant bureauxdepartments have evaluated the proposal and requested MTRCL to furnish additional information
除此之外，我們也要明白就北環線的規劃，為何至今仍好像陳議員所說未進行公眾諮詢。
Besides Members need to understand why public consultation has yet to be conducted for the planning of the Northern Link apparently as suggested by Mr CHAN
主席，不知我是否今天最後一位發言的議員，今天討論的《2018年僱傭條例草案》，簡單來說，是政府把男士侍產假由3日增加至5日。
President I wonder if I am the last one to speak today . To put it in a nutshell the Employment Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill under discussion today is introduced by the Government to extend the paternity leave for male employees from three days to five days
但是，坦白說，社會一直有很多要求增加侍產假的理由，其中一點是公務員本身已經擁有5日侍產假，勞工只有3日，好像有點兒不公平。
But frankly people have voiced out many reasons for a longer paternity leave . One is that civil servants are already entitled to a five - day paternity leave and it seems a little unfair that ordinary workers only have three days of such leave
香港公眾假期同樣有這樣的差別待遇，現在要求看齊，按道理我們無論如何也應該支持，為何很多民主派議員都說可否增加多兩天呢？
This differential treatment is also found in the case of Hong Kongs public holidays . Now that they ask for a universal treatment we should support it . Why do so many Members of the pro - democracy camp ask for two more days of paternity leave?
我真的再次誠意呼籲各位，無論自命建制派或其他議員也真的想一下，不要墨守成規，特別不要只是墨守所謂勞顧會的共識和方向。
I again earnestly call on Members from the pro - establishment camp or other camps to think carefully and not to be hidebound by conventions especially those arising from the so - called consensus and direction of LAB
我在這一節的發言除了討論侍產假，我一定會把矛頭指向勞顧會。
In this speech apart from speaking on paternity leave I will also throw my spear at LAB
每次提及勞工問題的時候，我必須把矛頭指向勞顧會，因為我們每次在 這裏討論侍產假、法定最低工資、標準工時或取消強制性公積金對沖時，都會聽到一種似曾相識的說法。
Whenever a labour issue is under debate I have to throw my spear at LAB because I always hear familiar arguments from the Government whenever we discuss the issues of paternity leave statutory minimum wage standard working hours or the abolition of the offsetting arrangement under the Mandatory Provident Fund MPF scheme in this Council