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更甚的是，主席在作出裁決時並不會詳細或很有說服力地鋪陳其理由，動輒便說他是根據《基本法》第七十二條或按《議事規則》的一貫做法行事。
What is more when the President makes a ruling he does not provide detailed or convincing explanations . He often says that he is acting in accordance with Article 72 of the Basic Law or the usual practice under RoP
我只能再次提醒主席，如果他連聆聽不同意見或對其裁決的批評的胸襟也沒有，莫說處理主席的日常事務，當議會再遇到困難或挑戰時，他根本沒有能力處理。
Let me remind the President again if he lacks the broad - mindedness to listen to different opinions or criticisms about his rulings he simply lacks the competence to deal with daily business let alone handle the difficulties or challenges faced by the Council
一如我過去所說，在上屆立法會的4年任期內，政府向本會提交了89項法案，本會通過了83項；換言之，九成法案獲得通過，每年審議20多項法案。
This situation happened at the meetings of the Committee on Rules of Procedure the House Committee and the Legislative Council . As I said in the past during the four - year term of the last Legislative Council the Government introduced 89 bills into the Legislative Council and 83 of them were passed . In other words 90 % of the bills had been passed and more than 20 bills had been considered each year
這與全世界任何一個議會比較，也是相當好的數字。
The number looks promising when compared with any other parliament in the world
如果說政府向本會提交100項議案或法案，全部獲我們舉手通過，我相信這亦非建制派議員想看到的現象。
If the Government introduces 100 motions or bills into this Council and all of which are passed on a show of hands I believe this situation is not what pro - establishment Members would like to see
這是立法會願意看到的嗎？
Is this what the Legislative Council wishes to see?
在梁振英這位"犯眾憎"特首離開後，大家都希望本屆立法會可以回復至較好的狀態。
After the departure of LEUNG Chun - ying the Chief Executive detested by all we all hope that the current - term Legislative Council will be in a better state
大家要緊記，一位議員或數位議員的力量很小，但立法會全體議員的力量可以很大。
We should bear in mind that the powers of a Member or a few Members are insignificant but the powers of all Members of the Legislative Council can be very great
我們現在花了這麼多時間，消耗了這麼多政治能量和互信，種下了這麼多禍根和怨憤來推動《議事規則》的修改，後果......
We have spent so much time and political energy; we have forfeited so much mutual trust and sowed the seeds of misfortune and resentment to push through the amendments to RoP in the end
周浩鼎議員，你有甚麼規程問題？
Mr Holden CHOW what is your point of order?
我相信建制派議員不會取笑聾啞人士。
I believe pro - establishment Members will not mock the deaf - mute
代理主席，我不會收回剛才的言論。
Deputy President I will not withdraw the remarks I just made
如果你選擇不澄清，請繼續發言。
If you choose not to elucidate please continue with your speech
如果周議員希望以這種所謂規程問題來為自己護短，我請他"慳啲"，他"未夠班"。
If Mr CHOW wants to conceal his mistake by raising the so - called a point of order I ask him to cut the crap . He is simply not up to par
最後，代理主席，我只想說，大家記住......
Finally Deputy President I just want to say that we should all remember
這場《議事規則》修訂之戰到此已經接近尾聲，我應該是最後一名可以就我提出的擬議決議案作回應的民主派議員。
As the battle on the amendment of the Rules of Procedure RoP is now coming to an end I should be the last pro - democracy Member being able to speak in response to my proposed resolution
建制派待民主派所有議員發言後，便排隊罵我們，但因為目標為本和時間關 係，只有10多名建制派議員站起來冤枉我們，責罵我們。
Pro - establishment Members have waited for their turn to chastise us after all pro - democracy Members had spoken . However owing to the target - oriented approach and time constraints only some 10 pro - establishment Members had stood up to wrong us or berate us
郭榮鏗議員剛才說周浩鼎議員"未夠班"，代理主席有些反應，周浩鼎議員也不太好受，但大家剛才有否聽到陳健波議員說甚麼？
When Mr Dennis KWOK accused Mr Holden CHOW of being not up to par just now the Deputy President reacted and Mr Holden CHOW felt uneasy . But did Members hear the remarks made by Mr CHAN Kin - por?
即使他說出當事人名字也沒事，因為《議事規則》只保護議員，不保護外面的人，立法會也無須說事實，這只是他的看法。
It would be all right even if he named the person concerned for RoP only protects Members but not outsiders and it is not necessary to present the facts in the Legislative Council . This was only his personal opinion
對不起，我說"狗眼看人低"是對狗不敬，也可能被他指我冒犯他，所以我收回"狗"字。
My apology to dogs for my expression a condescending person with a dogs eyes for I may be disrespectful to dogs and Mr CHAN may accuse me of offending him
我想說的是，一名議員對議會是否有貢獻，視乎他是否認真及如何監察政府，與學歷真的沒有直接關係。
My point is that the contribution of a Member to the legislature is determined by whether he is serious and how he monitors the Government having no direct link with his academic qualification
我要很正經回應廖長江議員的"禮樂說"。
I would like to seriously respond to Mr Martin LIAOs remark on the rules of proper conduct
我忘了回應石禮謙議員，他看着我，我且回 應一下他。
I have forgotten to respond to Mr Abraham SHEK who is looking at me . I will respond to him
他說《基本法》訂明功能界別的存在，這是否代表我們表達跟《基本法》不同的意見，便違反《基本法》呢？
He said that the Basic Law provides for the existence of functional constituencies but does this mean that we have violated the Basic Law if we express views different from its provisions?
早前，有些網民製作了這幅圖，這幅圖名為"保皇百睡圖"，不是"百歲"，是"百睡"容海恩議員不要睡覺，一定會有人拍你的；年輕的議員未睡覺輯錄了各個保皇黨議員在會議廳的睡姿，引來極大迴響，點擊及分享的數字比親中媒體付錢賣廣告的帖子還要多。
Ms YUNG Hoi - yan do not fall asleep or you will certainly be filmed; young Members should not fall asleep . The picture depicts the sleeping postures of various royalist Members in the Chamber which triggered a great outcry . The number of clicks and shares has outnumbered the number of posts paid by pro - China media for propaganda purposes
勤力是香港的核心價值，每一名"打工仔"靠自己能力上班支薪。
Diligence is a core value of Hong Kong and every wage earner relies on his capabilities to work and get paid
本會很多尊貴議員的會議出席率十分低，即使有出席，也不發言，只當投票機器。
Many Honourable Members of this Council have very low attendance rates at Council meetings . Even if they are present they will not rise to speak . They only act as voting machines
在過去的日子，建制派即使睡覺，也要在會議廳內睡，因為有法定人數為全體議員的一半的規限。
In the past even if pro - establishment Members wanted to sleep they had to do so in the Chamber given the requirement that the quorum for the meeting should not be less than one half of all Members
由於流會後可隨時復會，流會的風險便會減低，"累街坊"、"累全家"的罪名便會減低。
As a meeting can be resumed at any time following its abortion the risk of the meeting being aborted will be reduced and the crime of affecting the public or affecting ones political party will be minimized
所以，我認為建制派根本不應該冒着違反《基本法》的風險，爭論全體委員會的會議法定人數。
For this reason I think the pro - establishment camp should not run the risk of contravening the Basic Law and argue about the quorum of a committee of the whole Council
為市民發聲和議政是議員最重要的工作，可惜很多建制派議員只是坐在這我也不說他們是否在睡覺心不在焉，根本沒有聆聽其他人說甚麼。
They will be carefree by then . To speak for the public and participate in public policy discussion is the most important task of Members but regrettably many pro - establishment Members just sit here―I will not say whether they are sleeping―absent - mindedly without listening to what others are saying
該委員會是每屆下議院開始時成立，有11人，包括各黨派的代表。
The Committee is set up at the start of each term of the House of Commons and is made up of 11 members from various political parties
以今屆為例，工黨及保守黨各有5人，主張蘇格蘭獨立的蘇格蘭民族黨也有1人，卻從未有規定呈請書必須獲得下議院過半數支持才可獲處理。
In the case of the current term the Labour Party and the Conservative Party each has five members in the Committee and the Scottish National Party that advocates Scottish independence also has one member . There is no such requirement that a petition shall be considered for a debate only if it is supported by not less than one half of all members of the House of Commons
事實上，市民提出的呈請書只需超過10萬人聯署便可交由呈請書委員會處理。
In fact a petition presented by a member of the public will be considered by the Petitions Committee for a debate if it gets 100 000 signatures or more
例如，今年1名自由民主黨候選人發動了呈請書，內容是要求就脫歐協議最終決定再次公投。
For example this year a Liberal Democrat candidate initiated a petition calling for a second referendum on the final agreement for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union
雖然呈請書委員會內沒有自由民主黨的議員擔任委員，但該委員會也要在12月11日花數小時討論這項呈請書。
Though no Liberal Democrat Member of Parliament serves as a member of the Committee the Committee still spent several hours discussing this petition on 11 December
即使呈請書提案人當時不是議員或主要政黨的成員，呈請書也可以獲得處理。
Even if the presenter of a petition is not a Member of Parliament or a member of a major political party the petition can still be considered for a debate
如果今天建制派建議的《議事規則》應用於英國國會，規定只有超過一半議員支持，呈請書才可獲處理，這項呈請書便永遠不會獲得處理。
If RoP as proposed by the pro - establishment camp is applied in the Parliament of the United Kingdom under which a petition will be considered for a debate only if it is supported by over half of all Members of Parliament such a petition will never be debated
主席，我們未來其中一項重任便是不斷提出修改《議事規則》。
President one of our very important tasks in the future will be to constantly amend RoP
英國人口有6,700萬人，要10萬人支持，呈請書方能獲處理。
The United Kingdom has a population of 67 million and a petition will be considered for a debate only if it is supported by at least 100 000 people
如果按人口比例計算，香港是否只需1萬人支持呈請書，呈請書委員會便要處理？
Given the population size of Hong Kong is it that a petition with 10 000 signatures should be considered by a local petitions committee for a debate?
若然如此，我相信立法會便需處理大量呈請書，因為我們現在網上聯署，在一兩天之內已有數千人支持。
In that case I believe the Legislative Council will need to deal with a lot of petitions for an online petition initiated by us will soon be supported by thousands of people within one or two days
建制派聲稱修改《議事規則》是要反"拉布"，令議會運作重回正軌，更有效率。
The pro - establishment camp claims that it attempts to amend RoP for the purpose of countering filibusters so as to put the operation of the legislature on the right track and improve its efficiency
但是，我們已有多位議員說過，呈請書絕不應這樣處理。
However as various Members from our side have indicated petitions should never be dealt with in such a manner
今次我們頑抗修改《議事規則》，目的是要反偷懶，以及告訴林鄭月娥特首、張建宗司長或建制派議員，修改《議事規則》後議會可以重回正軌，只是他們一廂情願的想法，今天投票後，議會抗爭只會更多，議會運作會更寸步難行。
We have been making a desperate struggle against the current amendment of RoP with the aim of fighting against indolence and telling Chief Executive Carrie LAM Chief Secretary for Administration Matthew CHEUNG or pro - establishment Members that it is only their wishful thinking that the legislature will be put on the right track following the amendment of RoP . Following the voting today there will only be more struggles in the legislature and the operation of the legislature will be getting more and more difficult
所以，希望廖長江議員懸崖勒馬，......
For this reason I hope that Mr Martin LIAO will turn back before it is too late and stop moving a proposed resolution that is unnecessary
我已回答你的規程問題，請你坐下。
I have answered your point of order . Please sit down
各位議員，本會現在已進入有關修改《議事規則》辯論的最後環節，請各位保持肅靜，盡量克制，令會議能繼續暢順進行。
Honourable Members we have entered the final session of the debate on amending RoP . Please keep quiet and exercise maximum restraint for the meeting to continue to proceed smoothly
請各位保持肅靜。請議員返回座位。
Will Members please keep quiet and return to their seats
郭家麒議員、譚文豪議員，我現在向你們作出警告，請立即返回座位。
Dr KWOK Ka - ki Mr Jeremy TAM I am now giving you a warning . Please return to your seat immediately
譚文豪議員、郭家麒議員，我最後一次警告，如果你們不返回座位，我會視你們為行為極不檢點。
Mr Jeremy TAM Dr KWOK Ka - ki this is my last warning to you . If you do not return to your seats I would consider your conduct grossly disorderly
請你們立即返回座位，停止叫喊，不要阻礙會議進行。
Please return to your seats immediately stop shouting and refrain from impeding the proceedings of the meeting
我已作出最後警告。
I have issued my last warning
譚文豪議員、郭家麒議員，由於我已向你們作出足夠警告，而你們選擇違反《議事規則》及阻礙會議進行，不遵從主席的命令，我認為你們行為極不檢點，請離開會議廳。
Mr Jeremy TAM Dr KWOK Ka - ki despite my sufficient warning to you you have chosen to violate RoP by impeding the progress of the meeting and disobeying the order of the President . I would consider your conduct grossly disorderly . Please leave the Chamber
時間可以把一些"傷痕"修補，把一些撕裂修補。
Time can heal some scars so can it repair some dissensions
如果每件事情都要將時間放在第一位，把它濃縮及壓縮，其實會令很多事情都不能修補。
If minimizing time is to be made the top priority for doing everything many problems will actually never get resolved
如果每件事情都要趕着通過，每件事情都以濃縮時間為先，有很多本來可以處理的問題，本來可以解決的爭議，本來可以修復的撕裂，結果都會通通改變，原因是我們如此執着於一個時間的概念，便令很多問題都不能夠修補。
If we make it our priority to save time and rush to get everything passed we may fail to address many problems resolve many disputes and repair the dissensions as what we should have been able to . As a result of our insistence on the time concept many problems will never get resolved
代理主席，我留意到計時器，我已經發言了10分鐘。
Deputy President I have noticed that the timer shows that I have spoken for 10 minutes
我不想再用其他議員的時間，謹此陳辭。
I do not want to use up other Members time . I so submit
由於時間所限，我會集中回應當中數項主要的修訂內容。
Due to the shortage of time I will focus on responding to several main points of the amendments
我們的修訂中，被外界視為最"辣"的一項，是有關提交呈請書門檻的第206條。
Among our proposed amendments the public considers Rule 206 which concerns the threshold of the number of Members for requesting that a petition be referred the harshest of all
首先，我們的修訂是要使《議事規則》與時並進，不存在"辣"與"不辣"的情況。
First of all we proposed amendments to keep the Rules of Procedure RoP abreast of the times and the question of whether the amendments are harsh or not does not exist
我不知道黃碧雲議員和林卓廷議員對呈請書的交付處理是不清楚還是不明白，亦從來沒有人說過這項修訂與"拉布"有關。
I do not know whether Dr Helena WONG and Mr LAM Cheuk - ting are unclear about or do not understand the referral of a petition . Besides no one has ever suggested that this amendment is related to filibustering
《議事規則》應該與時並進，要現代化。
RoP should be kept abreast of the times and be modernized
議事規則委員會向內務委員會提交的報告中，已經清楚述及我們這項修訂的目的，如果他們稍有看過文件也會清楚。
In the report of the Committee on Rules of Procedure submitted to the House Committee the purpose of this proposed amendment is clearly stated . If these Members have read the report they would be clear about the purpose
首先，我想指出，專責委員會並非一個平台，亦不是調查和監管政府的機構或打壓異己的工具。
First I would like to point out that a select committee is not a platform; it is not an authority for investigating or monitoring the Government nor is it a tool for suppressing dissenters
它是立法會行使調查權力的途徑，調查攸關重大公眾利益而又沒有其他調查渠道的重要事項，其功能並非對抗政府或監察政府。
A select committee is a means for the Legislative Council to exercise its power of investigation and make inquiries about important issues which involve significant public interests when no other means of investigation is available . Opposing or monitoring the Government is not a function of a select committee
主席，專責委員會可分為兩類，一類擁有《立法會條例》賦予的權力，另一類則沒有；前者仍然保存，後者只是提高了門檻。
President there are two kinds of select committees one with powers conferred by the Legislative Council Ordinance and the other without such power . While no amendment has been proposed to the former the threshold for the latter has been increased
對於沒有獲《立法會條例》賦予權力的專責委員會，提高呈請書提交門檻並沒有改變它根本不具權力及特權的事實。
Regarding the select committee without the power conferred by the Ordinance increasing the threshold for presenting a petition does not change the fact that such kind of committee simply does not have any powers and privileges
我曾經擔任這種專責委員會的主席，被傳召的人想來便來，不想來便不來；索取文件又會因商業秘密等諸多理由而無法取得，情況極不理想。
I have been the Chairman of such kind of select committee . People who were summoned could choose whether or not to attend hearings and the committee could not obtain the documents required for reasons that they contained commercial secrets etc . The situation was far from satisfactory
這類沒有傳召權力的專責委員會一般花600萬元公帑。
Such kind of select committee without summoning power generally spent 6 million public money
如果每次均要動用600萬元公帑成立沒有傳召權的"無牙老虎"專責委員會，進行反對派所說的調查和監察政府的"政治工作"，就必須有相當的規範才可同意成立。
If each time we have to spend 6 million to establish a select committee without summoning power which is like a toothless tiger to conduct the political work of investigating and monitoring the Government as claimed by opposition Members we have to prescribe certain conditions before consent can be given for its establishment
主席，反對派9位議員就呈請書的交付處理合共提出多項修訂，他們分別來自4個不同的政黨和政團，修訂內容全部與提交呈請書的門檻有關。
President nine opposition Members have proposed many amendments on the referral of a petition . These Members belong to four different political parties and groupings and all their proposed amendments are related to the threshold for presenting a petition
究竟這些修訂有否經過深思熟慮及具備可信納的理據才提出？
Have due consideration be given when proposing these amendments and are there full justifications to support such amendments?
還是為了拖延辯論而兒戲地提出這些說不出任何理據的修訂？
Or do Members arbitrarily propose amendments without justifications just to prolong the debate time?
主席，說穿了，他們就是想虛耗議會做實事的寶貴時間，亦即是"拉布"。
President to put it bluntly these Members want to waste the valuable time of the Legislative Council which should be used to do real work in other words they are filibustering
反對派修訂新訂第17條，把全委會會議的法定人數修訂為"包括全體委員會主席在內的不少於35名委員"，完全無視我們早前就修訂建議所提出的理據，亦不明白立法會大會和全委會的區別。
An opposition Member proposes to amend the new Rule 171A so that the quorum of a committee of the whole Council shall be not less than 35 Members including the Chairman of the committee of the whole Council . This amendment entirely ignores the justifications put forward by us in support of our proposed amendment . It also shows that the Member does not understand the difference between the Legislative Council and a committee of the whole Council
舉例而言，朱凱廸議員指會議法定人數降至20人後所通過的法案修正案，不等同立法會大會所通過的修正案。
For example Mr CHU Hoi - dick said that an amendment to a bill passed by a committee of the whole Council after the quorum is reduced to 20 members will not be the same as an amendment passed in the Legislative Council
主席，立法會大會與全委會並非亦從不重疊運作，兩者並不存在任何衝突或重疊。
President the operations of the Legislative Council and a committee of the whole Council do not overlap and has never been overlapped . There are no conflicts or overlapping between the two
立法會大會進行的程序當然以大會的會議法定人數為準，而全委會進行的程序當然以全委會的會議法定人數為準。
When a procedure is handled in the Legislative Council the quorum required is certainly that of the Legislative Council; and when a procedure is handled in a committee of the whole Council the quorum required is certainly that of the committee
此外，反對派又修正我就第173條作出的修訂，加添"待決議案"來處理由立法會大會再次轉為全委會的情況，並容許議員即可進行辯論。
Furthermore an opposition Member also amends my proposal on Rule 173 by adding the words propose a question to deal with the situation where the Council shall again resolve itself into committee and allow a debate to take place immediately
主席，這樣只會使會議流程冗長又複雜，根本不是處理會議法定人數的應有程序，亦不分議會程序的輕重，我並不能接受。
President the amendment will make the proceedings long and complex . It is not a proper way to deal with the quorum of a meeting and it does not differentiate the degree of importance of different procedures in meetings . Thus I cannot accept it
我另一項新訂第19條和對第30條的修訂，旨在讓立法會主席能夠在多項旨在達到相同目的的擬議修正議案或修正案中，選擇更有效的修正案。
My proposals to add a new Rule 191A and amend Rule 30 seek to enable the President of the Council to select the more effective amendment where there are a number of proposed amending motions or amendments seeking to achieve the same purpose
反對派就此提出的修訂，分別要求主席須獲得議案或法案動議人同意、或提出議案或法案修正案的議員同意，又或所有提出議案或修正案的議員支持同意，才可以指示類同的兩項或以上的議案或修正案予以分拆或合併。
Opposition Members proposed amendments to my proposals and demanded that the President can only direct two or more motions or amendments considered by him to be cognate to be disjoined or combined with the consent of the mover of the motion or bill or the consent of the mover of an amendment to the motion or bill or the support and consent of all the Members moving the motions or amendments
主席，以過去數年的《撥款條例草案》為例，反對派就《條例草案》提出數以千計的修正案，如果要逐一獲得動議人的同意，再逐一由主席裁決，相信到臨時撥款花光，甚至立法會會期結束，也不能完成《條例草案》的審議和通過。
President take the Appropriation Bill the Bill in each of the past few years as an example . Opposition Members proposed thousands of amendments to the Bill . If consent of each mover is required after which the President shall make a ruling on each amendment I believe deliberation of the Bill cannot be completed and the Bill cannot be passed after the provision on account has been exhausted or even at the end of the session of the Legislative Council
難道政府部門和公共機構，例如醫院、消防、警隊、社會福利署等，都要停止運作來等待議員的支持及同意？
Do government departments and public organizations eg . hospitals the Fire Services Department the Police and the Social Welfare Department etc . have to stop operating and wait for Members to give their support and consent?
反對派真的要履行《基本法》第七十三條第二項"根據政府的提案，審核、通過財政預算"，還是想所有政府和公共機關停止運作？
Do opposition Members really want to exercise their function of examining and approving budgets introduced by the government under Article 732 of the Basic Law or do they want all government and public organizations to stop operating instead?
此外，這些修訂與我們修訂的目的，即讓主席擁有選擇修正案的權力南轅北轍，亦與我新訂的第1B條以訂明立法會主席的職權，帶來不明確的情況，所以反對派的修訂根本不能接受。
Moreover our proposals seek to give the President the power to select amendments whereas the purpose of the amendments proposed by opposition Members is extremely different . Besides they also bring uncertainties to the new Rule 1B proposed by me which provides for the powers and functions of the President . Thus I consider the amendments proposed by opposition Members totally unacceptable
除了讓立法會主席擁有選擇修正案的權力外，我們亦提出多項修訂，包括第404條和第494及6條，以明確立法會主席和全委會主席處理濫用程序的權力。
Apart from giving the President the power of selecting amendments we have proposed a number of amendments including Rule 404 Rule 494 and Rule 496 to clearly provide for the power of the President and the Chairman of the committee of the whole Council to deal with an abuse of procedure
但是，反對派的修訂不但多此一舉，而且刻意拖延議程。
Nevertheless the amendments of opposition Members are superfluous with the intent to delay the proceedings
難道由不同的議員提出休會待續的議案，就不算是濫用程序嗎？
Should the moving of the adjournment of proceedings by different Members not be regarded as an abuse of procedure?
把議員有否濫用程序的待決議案交由全委會展開辯論，並硬性規定在5分鐘表決鐘聲後才可付諸表決，難道又不是刻意拖延議程嗎？
Should the proposal that the Chairman shall put the question on whether a Member has abused the procedure to the committee of the whole Council for debate and the question can only be put to vote after a division bell has been rung for five minutes not be regarded as a deliberate attempt to delay the proceedings?
至於刪除我的修訂建議，更是漠視現時議會內濫用程序議案的惡劣情況。
The deletion of my proposed amendment indicates opposition Members disregard of the serious problem in the present Legislative Council where Members move motions to disrupt the procedure
事實上，很多議會早已不容提出辯論程序的議案，香港特區立法會難道還要抱殘守缺下去？
In fact many overseas parliaments have disallowed the moving of motions to debate on procedures long ago . Why should the Legislative Council of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region hold on to the outmoded?
因此，反對派的修訂，我們絕對不能接受。
Thus I definitely cannot accept the amendments proposed by opposition Members
此外，反對派議員就立法會主席執行職務提出修訂，包括"須維護《基本法》列明的權利與自由"及"須尊重本會之傳統"等。
Besides opposition Members have proposed amendments on the discharge of duties by the President including that the President shall defend the freedoms and rights as set out in the Basic Law and the President shall respect the tradition of the Council etc
我提出修訂的目的，是訂明立法會主席職權的憲制來源。
I propose the amendment for the purpose of stating the constitutional source of the powers and functions of the President
如果要在《議事規則》詳細列明，立法會主席執行職務及履行職責時須遵守這些或那些的所謂修訂規則，是否代表未有列明的規則，主席就可以無須遵守？
If it shall be listed in RoP that the President shall follow certain rules contained in the proposed amendments in exercising his duties and performing his responsibilities does it mean that the President shall not follow any other rule which is not listed?
因此，有關的修訂既不適當，亦很無謂。
Therefore the proposed amendments are inappropriate and superfluous
事實上，無論立法會主席如何公平及有秩序地主持會議，反對派議員都未必認同主席行使職權時所作的裁決。
In fact no matter how the President conducts meetings in a fair and orderly manner opposition Members may not agree with the rulings made by the President in exercising his powers and functions
今次有關修訂《議事規則》的辯論，反對派多位議員已經多番挑戰甚至反對主席的裁決。
In the debate on amending RoP a number of opposition Members have repeatedly challenged or even opposed the Presidents rulings
對於主席為處理會議程序而作出的裁決，議員大可提出意見，就如今次會議議程中，已有反對派議員根據《議事規則》第49B條提出譴責主席的議案，公道與否，相信自有公論。
Members can express views on the rulings made by the President in dealing with the procedures of meetings for example they can express views on the Agenda of this meeting . There is a motion on censuring the President under RoP 49B1A . Whether the censure is fair or not members of the public will make their own judgment