Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
我要追問，政府有沒有實質的數字，就將來中醫醫院，預算每年增撥多少資源及病床數目的實質數字？
Does the Government have any concrete figures on the estimated annual additional resources and the number of hospital beds to be provided for the future Chinese medicine hospital?
至於中西醫協作的模式，現時正在醫管局轄下的一些公營醫院進行一些先導計劃。
As for the ICWM model some public hospitals under HA have already launched certain pilot schemes
其實這些先導計劃是分兩個階段進行的，現時已是第二階段，我們亦會進行評估。
These pilot schemes are divided into two stages and they are already in their second stages by now . We will review all these schemes
所以我不明白為何政府較多強調我們與他們的不同，而不考慮我們如何多採納和吸收其優良經驗。
I therefore cannot quite understand why the Government should give such a heavier emphasis on the differences between Hong Kong and the Mainland rather than considering how Hong Kong can learn from the valuable experience of the Mainland
但是，這亦不等於我們不參考內地可借鏡的地方。
Still this does not mean that we should not learn from the experience of the Mainland
代理主席，對的，全世界除了大陸，便沒有其他地方有中醫醫院。
Deputy President yes Chinese medicine hospitals are indeed found nowhere in the world except China
不過，大陸很多中醫醫院其實是"掛羊頭，賣狗肉"，例如中醫醫院內有換骹手術、激光美容，甚至換腎手術。
But many Chinese medicine hospitals in the Mainland are not really Chinese medicine hospitals . For example such hospitals may perform joint replacements laser beauty treatment and kidney transplant
實際上，其運作並沒有中醫或西醫的監管，但這是國內的事情，我們管不了。
In fact their operation is not subject to the regulation of both the Chinese medicine profession and the Western medical authorities . But these are affairs in the Mainland and they are beyond our control
政府有沒有考慮，又或設法防止這些悲劇發生？
Has the Government ever considered this? . Has it sought to prevent the occurrence of such tragedies?
因為如果在這方面沒有足夠的監管，其實對一些患重病的病人，只會有害無益，政府打算怎樣做？
The lack of adequate regulation in this regard will definitely do harm to patients with critical illnesses . What does the Government plan to do?
這些其實涉及複雜的法律或保險問題。
Actually all these involve complicated legal and insurance matters
當完成顧問報告後，我們需要時間研究複雜的問題，包括香港的法律及保險問題，從而制訂將來的營運模式。
After the completion of the consultancy report we will need time to study all the complicated issues including legal and insurance matters so as to formulate the future operational model
局長剛才提到中醫護士的概念，我想了解更多。
I wish to know more about the concept of Chinese medicine nurses which the Secretary has referred to
而醫院會否承擔一部分培訓功能，一如以往在醫院中設立護士學校的做法呢？
Will hospitals also take part in the provision of training in ways similar to the setting up of nursing schools in hospitals previously?
代理主席，當我們籌劃這間中醫醫院時，醫護人手是一個很重要的課題，當中包含醫護人手的培訓、數目和專業範疇。
Deputy President health care manpower is an important topic in the planning of this Chinese medicine hospital . The planning in this regard covers health care personnel training headcounts and the health care disciplines that are required
只是在中醫護理中，是會包括一些中醫程序和措施，護理人員包括護士是需要認識的。
The main thing is that certain Chinese medicine procedures and measures which health care personnel must know are included in the training on Chinese medicine nursing
我留意到香港現時也有一些中醫護理課程，一般是讓已在香港受訓的註冊護士，再修讀一個中醫護理課程。
I note that there are some training programmes on Chinese medicine nursing in Hong Kong . These programmes in general aims to provide training on Chinese medicine nursing to registered nurses in Hong Kong who have already received nursing training
代理主席，目前輪候西醫專科的人大排長龍，而中醫服務雖然在多個範疇有傑出表現，但政府卻基本上把所有中醫服務全數推給非政府機構負責。
Deputy President on the one hand the waiting list for Western medicine specialist services is very long at present . On the other hand the Government has basically shifted all its responsibility for Chinese medicine services to NGOs despite the remarkable performance of Chinese medicine in quite a number of areas
香港有18間中醫診療中心已交給NGO營運，現時連中醫醫院也要交給NGO營運。
The Government has already handed over the operation of 18 Chinese medicine clinics to NGOs and now even the operation of the Chinese medicine hospital is to be taken up by NGO
代理主席，我們現階段是需要確立中醫藥在公營醫療系統的定位。
Deputy President at this stage we need to determine the positioning of Chinese medicine in our public health care system
當我們要規劃首間中醫醫院的運作模式時，我們是需要更多的資料。
When we plan the operating model of the first Chinese medicine hospital we will need more information
一方面，我們當然會吸納現時一些營運中醫診所的三方合作經驗，但亦正如陳議員指出，有些人認為這種模式未必最好，亦有可能會有其他的模式。
We will definitely draw on the experience of those existing Chinese medicine clinics that adopt the model of tripartite cooperation . But as Mr CHAN has pointed out some may not think this is the best model and they think that there may be other options
主席，我謹動議二讀《2017年行車隧道條例草案》。
President I move the Second Reading of the Road Tunnels Government Amendment Bill 2017 the Bill
隨着為期30年的"建造、營運及移交"專營權屆滿，大老山隧道有限公司將於明年7月11日把大老山隧道移交政府。
Upon the expiry of its 30 - year Build - Operate - Transfer BOT franchise on 11 July next year the Tates Cairn Tunnel Company Limited will hand over the Tates Cairn Tunnel TCT to the Government
我們需要為大老山隧道成為政府隧道後的營運和管理提供所需的法律基礎，將大老山隧道歸納入《行車隧道條例》及其附屬法例的法律框架內。
We need to provide the necessary legal backing for TCT to operate and be managed as a government tunnel and subsume TCT under the legal framework of the Road Tunnels Government Ordinance Cap . 368 and its subsidiary legislation
《條例草案》旨在把大老山隧道加入《條例》適用的隧道名單內，以及對《行車隧道規例》作出修訂，包括加入現時使用大老山隧道須繳付的隧道費、將大老山隧道加入指明通過政府隧道的車輛須繳付的移走費和許可證費的附表，以及容許某些交通標誌繼續在大老山隧道使用等。
The Bill seeks to add TCT into the list of applicable tunnels under the Ordinance and amend the Road Tunnels Government Regulations Cap . 368A including incorporating the existing tolls chargeable for using TCT adding TCT to the schedules of removal fee and permit fee for vehicles passing through government tunnels and allowing the continued use of certain traffic signs at TCT . The Bill also seeks to repeal the Tates Cairn Tunnel Ordinance Cap
但《條例草案》訂明所需的保留條文和過渡性安排，以確保政府在廢除《大老山隧道條例》及其附屬法例後，就有關大老山隧道的事宜可能採取的行動並不會受到影響。
However the Bill also provides for the necessary savings and transitional arrangements to ensure that the repeal of the Tates Cairn Tunnel Ordinance and its subsidiary legislation will not affect the Government in pursuing any actions against TCT - related matters
現時《大老山隧道附例》訂有豁免安排，訂明在緊急情況下，運載第二類及第五類危險品的車輛，獲批准後可使用大老山隧道。
At present the Tates Cairn Tunnel By - laws provide an exemption if permitted from prohibition against vehicles conveying dangerous goods of Categories 2 and 5 under emergency situations
《條例草案》將會保留這項豁免安排，並且把範圍擴展至所有政府隧道， 包括海底隧道和東區海底隧道。
The Bill will retain this exemption and extend it to all government tunnels including the Cross - Harbour Tunnel CHT and the Eastern Harbour Crossing EHC
這類危險品包括醫療氧氣、石油氣、柴油和石油等。當天氣惡劣或由於其他原因，這類危險品無法靠水路以汽車渡輪承載運送危險品的車輛供應到香港島時，政府可選擇安排這些車輛取道紅隧或東隧駛往香港島，而無須在取得西區海底隧道的營運公司同意後才可使用西隧，加強了政府處理突發或緊急情況的應變能力。
When these dangerous goods including medical oxygen liquefied petroleum gas diesel fuel and petroleum cannot be supplied to Hong Kong Island through seaway by vehicular ferries under inclement weather or due to other reasons the Government can opt for using CHT or EHC to transport these dangerous goods to Hong Kong Island rather than using the Western Harbour Crossing WHC which requires the prior agreement of the WHC franchisee . This will greatly enhance the Governments ability to respond to unforeseen incidents and emergencies
我必須強調，有關豁免只會在緊急情況下，由運輸署署長經諮詢有關政府部門後批出，並按需要施加附帶條件，在執行時亦會由有關政府部門和營運隧道的承辦商嚴密監察。
I must stress that the Commissioner for Transport will only grant this exemption under emergency situations with any necessary conditions after consultation with relevant government departments . And the government departments concerned and contractors operating the tunnels will closely supervise the execution of the permission
運輸及房屋局於本年5月19日就建議的法例修訂，諮詢立法會交通事務委員會。
The Transport and Housing Bureau consulted the Panel on Transport the Panel of the Legislative Council on 19 May 2017 on the proposed legislative amendments
事務委員會並無反對把大老山隧道納入《條例》的法律框架的立法建議。
The Panel did not raise any objection to the legislative proposals on subsuming TCT under the legal framework of the Ordinance
事務委員會部分委員關注，政府會於何時調整大老山隧道的隧道費，以改善該隧道、獅子山隧道和尖山及沙田嶺隧道三者的交通流量分布。
Some Panel members were concerned about the time frame within which the Government would adjust the toll level of TCT to achieve a better traffic distribution among TCT the Lion Rock Tunnel LRT and the Eagles Nest Tunnel and Sha Tin Heights Tunnel Route 8K
有委員在會議中要求政府，在接收大老山隧道後，同時調整其隧道費，使之與獅隧和尖山及沙田嶺隧道看齊，而非考慮交通流量合理分布研究的結果後才作調整。
Some members requested in a Panel meeting that the Government should bring the toll level of TCT in line with those of LRT and Route 8K upon taking over TCT instead of awaiting the outcome of the toll rationalization study
我理解委員的出發點。
I understand members concern
運輸署的分析亦顯示，3條過海隧道的交通流量與3條陸上隧道的使用量互為影響。
A preliminary analysis of the Transport Department also shows that the traffic distribution among the three road harbour crossings will impact on the usage of the three land tunnels
因此，政府必須以通盤方式考慮所有因素，然後制訂這6條隧道的隧道費調整方案，從而合理地分布各隧道的交通流量。
Hence the Government must consider all factors in a holistic manner and formulate the toll adjustment proposals for rationalizing the traffic distribution among the six tunnels
政府已就這6條隧道交通流量合理分布展開研究，並會在該研究中一併探討大老山隧道的隧道費水平。
The Government has initiated a study on the rationalization of traffic distribution among the six tunnels and a review on the TCT toll level will be incorporated in the study
政府較早前已經承諾，會於2017-2018立法年度內，把隧道費調整方案提交事務委員會作討論。
As undertaken earlier the Government will put the toll adjustment proposals for discussion at the Panel within the 2017 - 2018 legislative year
在未有定案前，政府接收大老山隧道後暫時不會調整該隧道的隧道費。
In the meantime the Government will not be adjusting the toll level of TCT upon its takeover of the tunnel
《條例草案》對大老山隧道在專營權屆滿後的正常運作十分重要，我懇請各位議員支持《條例草案》。
The Bill is instrumental to the normal operation of TCT upon the expiry of its franchise . I urge for Members support of the Bill
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：《2017年行車隧道條例草案》，予以二讀。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the Road Tunnels Government Amendment Bill 2017 be read the Second time
按照《議事規則》，這辯論現在中止待續，條例草案則交由內務委員會處理。
In accordance with the Rules of Procedure the debate is adjourned and the Bill is referred to the House Committee
政府於本年5月17日宣布，已邀請香港房屋協會就兩幅分別位於大欖郊野公園及馬鞍山郊野公園邊陲地帶的土地，進行技術及生態研究，包括發展公營房屋及老人院的潛力。
On 17 May this year the Government announced that it had invited the Hong Kong Housing Society HKHS to undertake technical and ecological studies including the potential for developing public housing and elderly homes in respect of two sites located on the periphery of Tai Lam Country Park and Ma On Shan Country Park respectively
當局於6月28日回覆本人的書面質詢時表示，政府並無參與推展該等研究的具體工作，因此並未掌握研究選址的確實位置和範圍，以及與選址有關的考慮。
In reply to my written question on 28 June the authorities indicated that the Government had not taken part in the specific work to take forward the studies and hence had no information on the exact locations and areas of the sites selected for the studies nor the considerations in site selection
主席，正如行政長官在她的政綱所述，要解決眾多香港人面對的居住問題，必須開拓土地。
President as the Chief Executive mentioned in her election manifesto we must find more land to tackle the housing problem faced by many Hong Kong people
事實上，除了住屋，我們的政府及社區設施、休憩用地和公共空間等，亦必須有足夠的土地承載。
In fact apart from housing we need sufficient land to accommodate the government and community facilities open space public space and so on
在香港，特別是大規模的土地規劃和發展，往往需時10多年。
The fact is land use planning and development in Hong Kong particularly large - scale projects often take over a decade to complete
在開拓土地供應的工作上，我們沒有只挑單一方案的餘地，而必須多管齊下，敢於探索不同的可能性。
We cannot afford to just pursue one single option to develop land but take a multi - pronged approach and be prepared to explore various possibilities
過去的經驗亦告訴我們，土地規劃和發展的工作必須持之以恆，而且需要有前瞻性的思維和開放的態度，一起為未來需要作好準備。
Our past experiences also suggest that land use planning and development require sustained efforts in addition to foresight and an open mind to prepare for the future
就陳淑莊議員質詢的兩部分，我的具體答覆如下： 一 上任行政長官於2017年施政報告第117段中提出，在增加生態保育及郊野公園土地總面積、提升康樂及教育價值的同時，也應該思考利用郊野公園內小量生態價值不高、公眾享用價值較低、位於邊陲地帶的土地用作公營房屋、非牟利的安老院舍等非地產用途。
My specific responses to the two - part question by Ms Tanya CHAN are as follows 1 In paragraph 117 of the 2017 Policy Address the then Chief Executive stated that while increasing the total area of ecological conservation sites and country parks and enhancing their recreational and educational values the community should also consider allocating a small proportion of land on the periphery of country parks with relatively low ecological and public enjoyment value for purposes other than real estate development such as public housing and non - profit - making elderly homes
為了跟進這提議，上屆政府於今年5月邀請香港房屋協會進行有關郊野公園邊陲地帶土地的生態及技術硏究。
To follow up on this suggestion the last - term Government invited the Hong Kong Housing Society HKHS in May this year to undertake the ecological and technical studies on land on the periphery of country parks
有關的邀請說明了研究旨在提供客觀分析，讓社會可進行理性討論，並且表明研究將會由房協運用其資源進行。
The invitation has set out the purpose of these studies that is to provide objective analyses and enable rational deliberations by the community
是項邀請亦說明，研究範圍包括分別位於大欖郊野公園範圍邊陲地帶的大欖，以及馬鞍山郊野公園範圍邊陲地帶的水泉澳這兩個地點。
The invitation also stated that the studies will be undertaken by HKHS at its own costs and that the studies would cover two areas in Tai Lam and Shui Chuen O which fall within or lie close to Tai Lam Country Park and Ma On Shan Country Park respectively
房協的研究將主要探討兩個地點的生態、景觀與美觀價值、康樂潛力、發展潛力，以及發展公營房屋和其他公共設施的主要技術因素和實際限制。
HKHSs studies will mainly look into the two areas ecological landscape and aesthetic values; recreational and development potentials; and the major technical factors and practical constraints of developing public housing and other public facilities thereon
在發出邀請的同時，政 府亦表明相關的法律條文，包括在郊野公園、城市規劃和環境影響評估各方面，仍然適用。
When making the invitation the Government also made clear that the relevant statutory provisions including those relating to country parks town planning and environmental impact assessment are still applicable
此外，如政府日後決定發展有關土地，會與房協進一步商討房協在當中可能扮演的角色。
In addition should the Government decide to proceed with the development of these sites the possible role of HKHS would be subject to further discussion between the Government and HKHS
房協一直是政府在房屋發展上的重要夥伴，在發展資助房屋及長者住屋方面具有豐富經驗，過往亦有就實驗性質的房屋及其他社會福利設施的倡議進行研究。
Experienced in the development of subsidized and elderly housing HKHS has long been an important partner of the Government in housing development and has carried out studies on experimental initiatives relating to housing and other social welfare facilities in the past
就有關郊野公園邊陲地帶土地的研究方面，雙方經討論後同意就上述兩個地點進行研究，主要是考慮到有關土地均具備基本的交通網絡和基建配套，而鄰近地區亦有不同類型的房屋發展。
As regards the studies on land on the periphery of country parks the aforesaid two areas were agreed as the study area mainly in consideration of the basic transport network and infrastructure facilities in these areas and the existence of different types of housing in the vicinity
由於研究由房協運用自己的資源進行，政府現時並無參與房協為推展研究而進行的具體工作。
Since the studies are to be carried out by HKHS at its own costs the Government has not taken part in HKHSs specific work on taking forward the studies
二 在開拓土地方面，我們相信社會需要集思廣益，當中亦難免涉及妥協和取捨，以達成共識，找出一個最符合社會整體利益的方案。
2 On developing land we need the collective wisdom of the society and in the process make compromises and involve give - and - take in order to reach consensus on the solution in the best interest of the society
我們正積極籌備成立行政長官競選政綱中建議的專責小組，希望以全面、宏觀的態度檢視土地供應的來源。
We are making active preparation to set up a dedicated task force as proposed in the Chief Executives manifesto to take a macro review of our land supply options
專責小組主席會由非官方人士出任，其組成會以專業人士為主，包括規劃、工程、建築、環保及地區等界別代表，發展局將為專責小組提供秘書處服務。
The task force will be chaired by a non - official with members coming mainly from the professions including planning engineering architectural and environmental disciplines as well as stakeholders at district level . The Development Bureau will provide secretariat support to the task force
目前，我們正在密鑼緊鼓地籌備成立專責小組的種種工作，並會在適當時候向社會報告這方面的進展。
We are preparing for the establishment of the task force in full swing and will report progress to the public in due course
我們相信有關研究可與專責小組的工作相輔相成，亦有助社會更全面、理性地討論郊野公園邊陲地帶是否可作為未來土地供應策略的其中一個選項。
We trust that the studies could complement the work of the task force and facilitate public discussion in a more comprehensive and rational manner on whether land on the periphery of country parks could be one of the many options under our land supply strategy
換言之，目前我們看不到有需要暫緩或擱置房協的研究工作。
Hence there is no need to halt or shelve HKHSs studies
主席，土地不足問題近年一直困擾香港，我深切盼望各界可以放下成見，以包容開放態度考慮各種為香港開拓土地來源的可能性，讓我們可以一起共建一個更美好的香港。
President land shortage has been plaguing Hong Kong in recent years . I earnestly hope that all sectors of the community can put aside differences and consider with inclusiveness every possibility of creating land to make Hong Kong a better place
主席，若有聆聽我的提問及政府就主體質詢第一部分所作的答覆，當可知道局長顯然是完全沒有作出回應，因為我說明要求就整個過程作出解釋，但他只是指出雙方經商討後同意就這兩個地點進行研究。
President anyone who has listened to my question and the Governments reply on part 1 of the main question will realize that the Secretary has obviously and completely failed to answer my question since I ask for a disclosure of the entire process but he only points out that both sides agreed after discussions that studies would be undertaken on the two sites
不過，我今天要追問的是一個非常重要的程序問題，希望新任局長可以回答。
But what I want to pursue today is a very important question on the whole process and I hope the new Secretary can give an answer
主席，感謝陳淑莊議員的提問。
President I thank Ms Tanya CHAN for her supplementary question
政府未來會否繼續進行相關研究？
Will the Government continue to undertake the relevant studies in the future?
根據現時掌握的資料，今次研究所涉土地面積共約40公頃，相對於全港超過4萬公頃的郊野公園用地，面積大約不足千分之一。
According to the information at hand the study will cover a total land area of roughly 40 hectares which is just less than 0.1 % of the 40 000 hectares or so of country parks across the territory
至於問及在今次之前有否先例，答案是沒有的。
As for whether there was any precedent the answer is no
所以，大家可以看到，政府在努力尋求合理而符合香港大部分人利益的土地開拓方案時，所需時間極多。
Therefore as Members can see the Government actually needs lots of time in its efforts to work out land development options that are in the interest of the majority people in Hong Kong
主席，多謝石議員剛才對我們的工作方向表示認同。
President I thank Mr SHEK for expressing his agreement to our approach
主席，對於石議員的關心和憂慮，政府絕對有同感。
President the Government shares Mr SHEKs concern and worry
不過，正如我剛才所說，在推進這方面的工作時，我們願意考慮不同方法，但有一些基本原則亦必須持守，例如在開發土地時，必須依照現有程序，包括城規程序、環評程序採取適當的步驟，以確保有關發展項目不論在規劃上和對環境的影響方面，均能達標並合乎香港社會的要求，這是我們必須持守的原則。
We are prepared to consider different options when proceeding with our work in this regard but as I said just now we must adhere to certain basic principles . For example in course of land development we must act appropriately under the established procedures including town planning procedures and environmental impact assessments so as to ensure that both the planning and environmental impact of the project can meet the standards and requirements of Hong Kong society . This is a principle which we must follow
但是，我必須指出，在尋求答案的過程中，對於本港有關環境保護和城市規劃等各個方面的價值，我們仍然需要持守。
However I must point out that when seeking answers to the question we must still uphold the values of Hong Kong regarding environmental protection and town planning
當然，在郊野公園發展房屋確實存在爭議，面對環保與房屋之間的兩難，我認為政府應公開所有數據和研究，讓社會大眾一起討論該如何取捨。
As we now face a very difficult choice between environmental protection and housing development I think the Government should disclose all relevant data and study findings so as to facilitate public discussions on how a choice should be made
不過，我想指出在2011年，當特首仍然擔任發展局局長時，她亦曾主導進行有關"優化土地供應策略"的大型公眾諮詢活動，並臚列了各個土地供應方案的優劣，令社會可作出抉擇。
But I want to point out that when the incumbent Chief Executive was the Secretary for Development in 2011 she herself already led a massive public consultation exercise on Enhancing Land Supply Strategy . At that time the pros and cons of various land supply options were set out to enable society to make a choice
現在，政府又建議成立專責小組，就類似議題進行同類研究和諮詢。
The Government now proposes to set up a task force to conduct studies and consultation on similar issues once again
我想問局長就有關的研究和諮詢，將來開展的工作與2011年進行的"優化土地供應策略"公眾諮詢有何分別？
Secretary speaking of the new studies and consultation in what ways will they be different the public consultation on Enhancing Land Supply Strategy back in 2011?
政府諮詢完後又再進行諮詢，會否予人議而不決之感，以致香港的房屋供應至今仍未能真正解決市民的需求？
The Government wants to conduct consultation over and over again . Will this make people think that it is indecisive so housing supply in Hong Kong has failed to meet peoples housing demand?
2011年距今已有6年，我相信香港社會在2011年雖然看到香港土地存在不足的問題，但這問題在6年後的今天應更加明顯。
It has been six years since 2011 . I believe that while our society could already see the land shortage in Hong Kong back in 2011 the problem should have turned even more conspicuous today after six years
社會的輿論和共識亦要不停醞釀，不能在2017年時仍依靠2011年的討論作為基礎。
Social opinions and consensus must always keep abreast of the times so in 2017 we cannot possibly stick to the discussions in 2011 as our basis
我想問有關的專責小組是否只是政府內部的一個小組？
Is the proposed task force just a small team set up within the Government?
主席，專責小組主席會由非官方人士出任，其組成亦會包括很多專業界別人士的參與，包括規劃、環保、建造、工程及地區人士。
President the task force will comprise a non - official chairman and members from various professional
代理主席，近年香港有一個都市傳說，就是"借錢好容易"、"借錢唔駛還"。
Deputy President in recent years there is this urban myth in Hong Kong of getting a loan is very easy and there is no need to repay your loan
但是，的而且確，每天都有數個來電問你是否需要借錢，而電視廣告亦把借錢形容為好像不需要還錢，借錢後可以去旅行、看演唱會、吃美食、購買昂貴的相機等，30分鐘便完成批核，可以一邊玩遊戲機一邊借錢，真的很輕鬆，隨時都可以"Show you the money"。
However people actually receive several calls every day which ask if they need to get a loan while television advertisements have created an impression that you do not have to repay your loan and after receiving the loan you can travel watch a concert enjoy cuisine buy an expensive camera and so on . It only takes 30 minutes to complete the approval process so you can apply for a loan while playing video games . Applying for a loan is really easy and they can Show you the money anytime
不過，這確實衍生了很多有關借錢的問題，以及今天這項議案辯論很關注的財務中介問題。
However it has actually given rise to many problems related to loans and problems of financial intermediaries which is the concern of todays motion debate
其實，正常的借貸活動，在商業社會是正常的商業活動之一。
In fact normal lending activity is one of the normal commercial activities in a commercial society
不過，由於借貸太容易，令不少市民的警覺性鬆懈，而一些違法行為及不良中介蓬勃發展起來，成為一個很大的社會問題。
Yet many members of the public have lowered their vigilance as it is very easy to get a loan and there has been vigorous growth in illegal acts and unscrupulous intermediaries which became a serious social problem
所謂不良和違法的中介，就是透過不良及違法的經營手法，誘騙有債務問題的人士申請貸款，因為他們可能較難循正途借貸，並從中收取高昂的中介費用。
Unscrupulous and illegal intermediaries use unscrupulous and illegal business practices to inveigle people with debt problems into applying for loans and to charge them exorbitant intermediary fees because it may be more difficult for them to get a loan through proper channels
根據《放債人條例》，與放債人有關連的人士不可以向借款人收取任何費用。
According to the Money Lenders Ordinance any person who is connected to a money lender is prohibited from charging borrowers any fees
但是，這些不良中介為了收取費用便無所不用其極和利用法律漏洞，因為當局很難證明中介公司與放債人有直接關係，而且很多時候兩者的確沒有關係。這些騙徒的手法層出不窮，今天發言的議員都舉出了很多不同例子。我想在這裏說一個頗為特別的例子。
Yet those unscrupulous intermediaries have resorted to every conceivable means and exploited loopholes in law in order to charge fees because it is difficult for the authorities to prove that there is a direct relationship between the intermediaries and money lenders while in most cases there is in fact no relationship between them
小組委員會舉行了1次會議，審議兩項附屬法例。
The Subcommittee has held one meeting to scrutinize two items of subsidiary legislation
《建造業工人註冊條例》中有俗稱"專工專責"的規定，禁止沒有註冊的建造業工人進行涉及指定工種分項所需技能的建造工作。
The designated workers for designated skills DWDS requirement under the Construction Workers Registration Ordinance CWRO forbids workers from carrying out construction work involving skills required by designated trade divisions
該兩項附屬法例旨在訂定豁免條文，令若干工作及人士不受"專工專責"的條文規管，以及加入3個"專工專責"的工種分項。
These two items of subsidiary legislation seek to introduce exemption provisions so as to exempt specified construction work and persons from the DWDS requirement as well as adding three DWDS trade divisions
委員就新的工種分項技能定義，以及"專工專責"規定的豁免條文等事宜曾作詳細討論。
The Subcommittee has discussed in detail matters relating to the definitions of skills for the newly added trade divisions as well as the exemption provisions in DWDS requirement