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我們不希望出現這些情況，所以我們要考慮如何幫助僱主，以便他們在需要支付僱員的遣散費和長期服務金時，可動用之前所做的一些專項儲蓄來應付，我們也要考慮如何在過渡期幫助他們。
We do not wish to see this happen and so we have to consider how best we can help the employers so that when they need to make the severance and long service payments to their employees they can meet these payments with the savings kept previously for these specific purposes and we also have to consider ways to assist them during the transitional period
在處理這些工作時，我們要探討技術性的細節。
When we carry out such work we have to look into the technical details
很多時候，如果我們想得不夠仔細的話，便會出問題，正如大家常說，問題一般出現在細節中。
If we do not think about them carefully problems will often arise and just as Members always say the problem generally lies in the details
因此，我們希望對問題進行足夠和充分的探討，以致當我們提出一個我們認為可行的改良方案時，那方案是可以實踐的，亦避免可能好心做壞事的情況。
Therefore we hope to explore the issue adequately and thoroughly so that when we put forward an improved proposal which we think is feasible that proposal will prove to be enforceable and we will not turn out to be doing a disservice out of good intentions
實際上，背後意思就是說，我們不希望在取消"對沖"安排後，僱主有任何動機或誘因裁員，又或令僱員的利益得不到有效保障。
In fact the underlying meaning of this is to ensure that employers will not have any motivation or incentive to lay off their staff or do anything that will deprive employees of effective protection of their rights and interests after the abolition of the offsetting arrangement
因此，從細節考慮"對沖"方案時，我們希望可以真真正正保障員工的有關福利。
Therefore we hope that when the proposal for abolishing the offsetting arrangement is considered having regard to the details these benefits of the employees can be genuinely protected
現時，勞工處的主力工作，是在11個行業盡快訂定行業指引，特別是工時方面的指引。
Currently the major task of LD is to expeditiously draw up sector - specific guidelines for 11 industries particularly guidelines on working hours
我們正開展這項工作，相信有助訂定一項更合理的工時政策。
We are carrying out this task which I believe will be conducive to formulating a more reasonable policy on working hours
有部分議員提及職安健的問題。
Some Members mentioned occupational safety and health
職安是一項相當重要的議題，我們希望從多方面作出改善。
Occupational safety is a very important topic and we hope to make improvement in various aspects
從過往經驗所見，很多時候，在意外發生後，透過法庭的判案，判刑情況在近年開始有改善。
As we can see from past experience it is often the case that after accidents occurred and through judgments made by the Court improvement has started to be made in recent years
不過，我們認為 現時的量刑仍然偏低，顯然未能反映違法情況和意外後果的嚴重性。
Having said that we consider that the current penalties are still too low to reflect the seriousness of the offences and the consequences of the accidents
因此，勞工處亦正全速就職安健法例的罰則進行檢討，希望在參考律政司的意見後，在今個立法年度內提出一些修訂有關法例的方向性建議。
LD is therefore reviewing the penalty levels of occupational safety and health legislation in full swing . We hope that after drawing reference from the views of the Department of Justice we can recommend some directions for legislative amendments in the current legislative year
多位議員亦提到另一廣為關注的問題，就是外判服務的勞工權益和保障。
A number of Members also mentioned another issue of extensive concern and that is the rights and interests of workers of outsourced services and their protection
實際上，我履任後不久即向特首提出，我們需要就着這個問題進行檢討。
In fact shortly after I took up office I already brought to the attention of the Chief Executive the need to conduct a review of this issue
於是，在去年8月底，我們已籌備成立這個跨部門工作小組，負責檢視政府的外判制度有何可以改善之處，以保障僱員得到合理待遇。
Therefore in late August last year preparations were made for establishing this inter - departmental working group responsible for examining ways to improve the outsourcing system of the Government in order to ensure that the employees receive reasonable wages
主席，實際上，由於多項修訂案中涉及的政策範圍合共有18個，如果我逐一作出回應，初步估計需時30多分鐘，但我相信大家也不想聽到這麼長的回應。
President in fact as the various amendments involve a total of 18 policy areas and if I should make a response to them one by one initially it is expected to take more than 30 minutes but I think Members do not wish to listen to such a lengthy response
此外，我知道日後我們仍然有很多機會，可在人力事務委員會回應，而當我們提出一些具體政策時，我們也會盡量與立法會議員作多方面溝通。
Besides I understand that we will still have plenty of opportunities to make a response in the Panel on Manpower in future and when we put forward specific policies we will also communicate with Members of the Legislative Council in various respects by all means
在勞工政策方面，我們希望就日後如何循序漸進地改善，多聽各黨派立法會議員的意見。
Insofar as labour policies are concerned we hope to listen more to the views of Members of the Legislative Council from various parties and groupings on how improvement can be made in a gradual and orderly manner in future
最經常聽到的是新加坡也有標準工時，為何香港沒有？
An argument most often advanced by Members is that when Singapore has standard working hours why should we not have them in Hong Kong?
他們又舉例說很多地方有較長的產假和侍產假，又說產假應該增至14周，但他們卻不說有些地方由政府支薪給放產假的僱員；有些地方的稅率也很高；有些地方為產假設立薪酬上限，不像香港般由僱主支付僱員原有的薪金；有些地方亦沒有像香港這麼低的失業率，當地人手充裕，讓僱員多放假當然也沒有問題。
They also cited examples of longer maternity leave and paternity leave being provided in many places adding that the maternity leave duration should be increased to 14 weeks and yet they did not say that employees taking maternity leave are paid by the Government in some places that the tax is high in some places that a salary cap is imposed for maternity leave in some places unlike the practice in Hong Kong where employees are paid their original wages by the employers and that the unemployment rate in some places is not as low as that in Hong Kong and given an abundant supply of workers certainly it is not a problem to allow employees to have more days of leave
說到底，每個地方的情況也不同，不應該一概而論。
In the final analysis the situation in each place varies and should not be generalized to draw a conclusion
對工人來說，加工資、加假期、加福利一定很中聽，但全部相加起來，對香港整體的營商環境便會造成損害。
To the workers an increase of wages an increase of leave days and an increase of welfare are certainly pleasing to their ears but the adding up of these increases will take toll on the overall business environment in Hong Kong
我們近期看到法國有很多罷工行動，都是因為勞工法例制定後很難回頭，而最重要的是，如果不能回頭的話，我們應該如何看待這事呢？
Recently we have seen many incidents of strike taking place in France because there is no turning back when labour laws are enacted and most importantly when there is no turning back how should we look at this issue?
落實最低工資及侍產假等勞工政策已經令中小企的經營成本持續攀升，但工會的訴求有增無減，設立標準工時、增加最低工資、取 消強制性公積金與遣散費對沖、增加侍產假、產假及福利、勞工假與公眾假期看齊等，矛頭直指商界，特別令中小企的生存條件每況愈下，小投資者憂心不已。
The implementation of such labour policies as minimum wage and paternity leave has led to a continual rise in the operating costs of small and medium enterprises SMEs but there have been increasing demands from the trade unions calling for the setting of standard working hours an increase of the minimum wage rate abolition of the arrangement for offsetting severance payment under the Mandatory Provident Fund System additional days of paternity leave and maternity leave and more welfare aligning the numbers of labour holidays and public holidays and so on . These demands all target the business sector direct and in particular they have caused the commercial viability of SMEs to deteriorate continuously arousing grave concern among the small investors
這未必即時發生，但日積月累便會有問題。
While this may not happen right away a problem will arise over time
香港的確比較幸運，相比歐美，香港背靠內地龐大的消費市場，以致可以保持一定的經濟實力，但經營成本過高的負面影響已經默默浮現。
Hong Kong is indeed luckier than Europe and America as we can leverage the enormous consumer market in the Mainland and this has enabled us to maintain certain economic strengths . However the negative impacts of excessively high operating costs have already surfaced unnoticeably
須知道，對本地飲食業來說，薪酬一般較租金開支高1倍。
We must bear in mind that in the local catering industry the wage cost generally doubles the rent expenses
政府統計處日前剛公布"按行業劃分的企業經營情況"的數字顯示，2016年飲食業僱員薪酬佔總經營開支的比率為48.2%，相比2015年再上升近1個百分點，反映飲食業的工資壓力越來越大。
According to the figures in the survey on operating characteristics of enterprises analysed by sector published by the Census and Statistics Department the other day in 2016 the share of compensation for employees in total operating expenses is 48.2 % for restaurants representing a further increase of nearly 1 % over 2015 . This shows that wages have imposed an increasingly higher pressure on the catering industry
其實有一點是大家不知道的，便是飲食業壓縮了管理層來提升其下數個階層的待遇，這對中產及管理層也不公道，但現時仍然有這樣的問題。
Actually there is one thing that Members may not know and that is the catering industry has to compress the management in order to increase the wages and benefits for the several levels of staff under it . This is not fair to the middle class and the management but this problem still exists now
有人批評飲食業的薪酬偏低，但他們沒有同時指出，食肆一般只賺取微薄利潤，過去10年更持續遞減，只得單位數字。
Some people have criticized that wages in the catering industry are on the low side but they have not pointed out in tandem that the catering establishments generally made only a meagre profit and worse still over the past decade their profit has decreased continually and recorded only a single - digit figure
2016年平均只有5.1%，中小企食肆更平均只有2.9%。
In 2016 it was only 5.1 % on average and even a mere 2.9 % on average for catering establishments among SMEs
飲食業根本不可能好像建造業般有條件大幅改善工人的待遇。
It is actually impossible for the catering industry to have the conditions similar to those in the construction industry to make substantial improvement in the employment terms for workers
然而，香港現時勞動力嚴重不足，剛公布的失業率數字繼續處於20年的低水平，只有2.9%，可說是全民就業，以致近年飲食業在招聘人手方面非常困難，特別是洗碗工，這方面我也不詳述了，免得說來說去也只說洗碗工。
However there is currently an acute manpower shortage in Hong Kong . The unemployment rate just published has remained at a low level in the past two decades which stands at only 2.9 % and can be regarded as full employment . For this reason staff recruitment has become most difficult in the catering industry in recent years especially in recruiting dishwashers
因此，我們要留心如何避免帶動薪酬開支升幅過急及扼殺中小企的生存空間，這才是最需要關注的問題。
Therefore we have to be careful of not causing the expenses on wages to increase too drastically and hence stifling the commercial viability of SMEs . This is what warrants our utmost concern
我認同很多中小微企有時會成為無"糧"僱主，因為他們沒能力出糧給僱員，而不是沒有良心。
I agree that many SMEs and micro enterprises may sometimes default on wage payment because they do not have the means to pay their employees not because they are unscrupulous
主席，我不反對亦無需反對有能力的僱主為僱員提供較吸引的福利，因為現時根本難以聘請員工，在自由經濟之下，僱主自然會"加 碼"。
President I do not and need not oppose the better - off employers providing more attractive benefits for their employees because it is downright difficult to recruit workers nowadays and in a free economy it is only natural for employers to offer better pay and perks
如果政府願意仿效外國的做法，由政府承擔這些成本，商界多數也不會反對。
If the Government is willing to follow the overseas practice by shouldering the costs the business sector most likely will not voice any objection
所以，延長侍產假及產假一定會令中小微企的人手更加不足，這個現實問題必須處理。
So the extension of the paternity leave and maternity leave durations will definitely aggravate the manpower shortage of SMEs and micro enterprises . This is a reality we have to address
有同事剛才說反對輸入勞工，但如果不輸入勞工，我們如何繼續經營下去呢？
Some colleagues said earlier that they opposed the importation of labour . But if we do not import workers how can we continue our operation?
總結而言，我覺得政府不應單方面落實加強僱員權益的政策，否則只會拖累中小企的營商環境，亦有可能為勞動市場帶來衝擊，令好事變壞事。
To conclude I think the Government should not unilaterally implement policies that will enhance the rights and interests of employees . Otherwise the business environment of SMEs will only be adversely affected and this may also deal a blow to the labour market thus turning a good thing into a bad one
有同事剛才提及年假，甚至要求最低工資"每年一檢"，我覺得最低工資應該在有需要檢討的時候才檢討。
Earlier on some colleagues mentioned annual leave and even demanded that the minimum wage rate be reviewed once every year . I think the minimum wage rate should be reviewed only on a need basis
主席，工聯會的何啟明議員今天動議了這項"全面檢討勞工法例，改善勞工權益"的議案，當中首句的內容便是"本會促請政府以捍衞勞工權益為首要任務"。
President today Mr HO Kai - ming of FTU has proposed this motion on Conducting a comprehensive review of labour legislation to improve labour rights and interests and the first line of it says That this Council urges the Government to make safeguarding labour rights and interests its priority task
每次提到這句話，難免便會喚起民主派議員要翻工聯會的舊帳，因為他說"促請政府捍衞勞工權益"，那麼大家便不禁會問：工聯會又有否真正做到捍衞勞工權益呢？
Every time such a comment is made the pro - democracy camp is inevitably prompted to rake up the past deeds of FTU . Since he talked about urging the Government to safeguard labour rights and interests we cannot help but ask Did FTU do a proper job of safeguarding labour rights and interests?
我不想浪費時間講述所有事件，因為即使翻工聯會舊帳，也不會令香港"打工仔"的權益變好，但我想講述一件我親身經歷的事情。
I do not wish to waste my time on talking about all the incidents because raking up the past deeds of FTU would not bring about any improvement to the rights and interests of wage earners in Hong Kong . However I wish to talk about an incident that I personally encountered
在選舉期間，當我為范國威議員助選時，有一名叔叔衝過來說："我是工聯會的。
During the elections while I was campaigning for Mr Gary FAN a man somewhat older than me rushed towards me and said I am from FTU
我今天只想提出一個切入點，就是香港法例對於小眾的勞工權益保障是非常不全面的，特別是性小眾。
Today I only wish to raise one starting point for discussion that is the legislation on the labour rights of minorities particularly those of sexual minorities in Hong Kong is very limited in scope
當然，這範疇未必是由勞福局負責的，因為反歧視條例是由政制及內地事務局負責的。
Of course this policy area may not be within the ambit of the Labour and Welfare Bureau because anti - discrimination legislation falls within the ambit of the Constitutional and Mainland Affairs Bureau the Bureau
在反歧視條例當中，有《性別歧視條例》、《殘疾歧視條例》和《種族歧視條例》，唯獨仍然未有有關性傾向及性別認同歧視的條例。
Anti - discrimination legislation includes the Sex Discrimination Ordinance the Disability Discrimination Ordinance and the Family Status Discrimination Ordinance but it is the legislation against discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation and identity alone that is missing
所以，在現實世界中，很多性小眾須隱藏其身份和傾向，因為萬一被他的上司發現，他有可能會失去工作，有些教育機構甚至要求員工簽署文件，聲明自己並非性小眾，否則便須辭職，不可以繼續工作。
For this reason in the real world many people belonging to the sexual minorities have to conceal their sexual identities and orientations because in the event that their sexual identities and orientations are found out by their superiors they may lose their jobs . Some education organizations even request their employees to sign documents to declare that they do not belong to the sexual minorities . Otherwise they have to resign and cannot continue to work
香港現時並無法例保障性小眾在職場上由於其性別認同或性傾向而受歧視的情況。
At present there is no legislation to protect sexual minorities from discrimination on grounds of sexual identities or sexual orientations at the workplace in Hong Kong
我今天看到勞福局局長在席，他未必是直接負責歧視條例的，但在歧視條例當中，也是有一個很重要的範疇，便是僱傭歧視。
Today I can see the Secretary for Labour and Welfare seated here . He may not be the one directly in charge of anti - discrimination legislation but in the legislation against discrimination there is one very important area that is employment discrimination
政府鼓勵別人做，但自己卻未必會做。
The Government encourages others to observe them but it may not necessarily follow them
該宗案件已在高等法院勝訴，但政府當然會上訴到底，並且已經在進行上訴，即使再次敗訴，也一定會上訴至終審法院。
The challenge was successful in the High Court but the Government will surely exhaust all appeal channels . Furthermore it has already lodged an appeal and if it loses again it will surely take the case to the Court of Final Appeal
在法理上有法理上的爭拗，但如果從勞工權益的角度來看，我認為政府是應該自我完善整個勞工權益體制，不應該歧視社會上任何族群和小眾。
There are arguments over points of law but from the angle of labour rights I think the Government should improve the entire labour rights framework of its own accord and should not discriminate against any group or minority in society
今次有機會提出這方面，希望局長有機會也檢討一下。
This time around I have the opportunity to talk about this aspect and I hope that the Secretary will also conduct a review if such an opportunity arises
主席，我再次感謝7位同事提出修正案，以及各位同事踴躍發言。
President I once again thank the seven Honourable colleagues who have proposed the amendments and those Honourable colleagues who have enthusiastically given speeches in the debate
今次議案辯論帶出了很多新思維、新觀點，對於構建全方位"再工業化"政策體系定有相當的正面意義。
This motion debate has induced an array of new ideas and perspectives which is definitely of considerable positive significance to establishing a comprehensive re - industrialization policy regime
我衷心希望各位同事支持我的議案，多謝。
I sincerely hope that Honourable colleagues will support my motion . Thank you
我現在請何啟明議員動議修正案。
I now call upon Mr HO Kai - ming to move his amendment
代理主席，我動議修正吳永嘉議員的議案。
Deputy President I move that Mr Jimmy NGs motion be amended
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：何啟明議員就吳永嘉議員議案動議的修正案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the amendment moved by Mr HO Kai - ming to Mr Jimmy NGs motion be passed
主席，我想大家都知道，第一部智能手機面世至今只是僅僅10年，我們的生活改變了很多，不論是流動網絡的應用、社交媒體以至各種相關科技，均帶來了很多不可逆轉的變化，成為我們生活的重要部分。
President I think we all know that the first smartphone only appeared some 10 years ago yet our lives have changed a lot . The application of mobile networks social media and various related technologies have brought about a lot of irreversible changes and have become an important part of our life
在未來的10年或20年，整個世界會變成怎樣，沒有人可以百分之百估計得到。
No one can 100 % estimate the changes of the world in the next 10 or 20 years but we can foresee and affirm that artificial intelligence autopilot wearables Internet of Things 3D printing and robots etc
觀乎香港的情況，的確令人擔心。
The situation in Hong Kong is worrying indeed
我十分感謝吳永嘉議員提出這項議案。
I sincerely thank Mr Jimmy NG for moving this motion
是次討論非常重要，因為我們已置身於"第四次工業革命"之中。
This discussion is very important because we are already in the fourth industrial revolution
在互聯網數碼年代，科技正以幾何級數的速度發展，我們不可以停下來，甚麼也不做。
In the digital age technology is developing in a geometric progression and we cannot just stop and do nothing
究竟要怎樣做才可以令香港達致"再工業化"，利用新知識為產業創造新價值？
What can we do so that Hong Kong can achieve re - industrialization and use new knowledge to create new values for industries?
我今天提出的修正案旨在帶出一個信息，就是政府在推動"再工業化"的政策思維時，必須更重視資訊科技和培訓人才。
The amendment I proposed today brings out the message that the Government must pay more attention to information technology and talent training while promoting the policy of re - industrialization
全球製造業面對的最大挑戰，已不是以往一般關注的成本上升、市場疲弱等因素，而是如何掌握數據科學和物聯網等科技。
The biggest challenge facing the global manufacturing industry is no longer the factors of rising costs and sluggish market which were the general concerns in the past but how to master technologies such as data science and Internet of Things
在這些科技的挑戰下，工業成功的要素已非單純在於製造最優質可靠的產品，更重要的是誰可最快掌握顧客喜好並最快在市場推出產品，保持市場優勢。
Facing these technological challenges the essential factor to attain industrial success is not simply producing the most reliable products of the best quality but grasping customer preferences and introducing products expeditiously in the market to maintain market advantage
自動化機器等設備只是"智慧工廠"的基礎。
Automated machines and other equipment are the bases of smart factories
利用機器學習和估算程式預測結果、開發新產品、改善現有產品和服務，以及把產品服務化，均可帶來新的盈利模式。
Using machine learning and estimating programmes to predict results developing new products improving existing products and services and producing service - oriented products will be new ways to make profits
剛才有數位議員都提到，德國、美國、中國等國家現正打造新的製造業，而它們的改革其實有一些共通點：提倡以創新及高科技引領製造業發展，打造智能和環保的製造，並以資訊、通訊科技和物聯網技術為骨幹，聯繫人類、物件和機器，生產以服務為本的產品。
Just now several Members have mentioned that countries such as Germany the United States and China are developing new manufacturing industries and their reforms actually have something in common They advocate driving the development of the manufacturing industries by innovation and high technologies creating smart and green manufacturing and producing service - oriented products with information communication technology and Internet of Things technology as the backbone connecting human beings objects and machines
"再 工業化"絕不只是關乎製造業的土地問題，更重要的是培養整個社會的數據認知。
Re - industrialization is not just about land for the manufacturing industries; more importantly it is also about cultivating the data literacy of the community as a whole
新加坡政府與新加坡國家大學合作，每年培訓2,000名政府人員讓其學習數據科學，預計5年內會培訓1萬名人員。
The Singapore Government cooperated with the National University of Singapore in training 2 000 government officers in data science each year . It is expected that 10 000 officers will be trained within five years
產業轉型藍圖大致上是要為產業增值、提高其創造力和生產力、協助每個行業投資新設備和自動化技術、深化企業技能，以及改善流程。
The industrial transformation blueprints generally seek to add values to industries increase their creativity and productivity assist industries in investing in new equipment and automation technology enhance the skills of enterprises and improve business processes
主席，今年的財政預算案對某些行業有一些特定的資助，例如向香港旅遊業議會撥款3,000萬元以幫助旅遊業的中小企，但金額並不足夠，亦缺乏針對性。
President the Budget this year provides specific subsidies to certain industries . For example the Government will allocate an additional funding of 30 million to the Travel Industry Council of Hong Kong to assist small and medium enterprises in the tourism industry but the funding is inadequate and not targeted
近期，我們看到旅遊業中存在很多網絡安全問題，要以3,000萬元解決這些問題已十分勉強，所以這是不足夠的。
We have recently noticed that there are a lot of network security problems in the tourism industry and 30 million can barely solve these problems so the funding is inadequate
我希望政府真的能促使企業和人才與時並進。
I hope the Government will really encourage enterprises and talent to advance with the times
"再工業化"的發展需要較長時間才見效果。
The development of re - industrialization will take more time to achieve results
我希望政府重視產業轉型的規劃、資助有關智慧製造業運用數據的研發工作、協助工業家應用研發結果，以及透過大專院校等途徑培訓更多數據科學專才，以應付將來的需求。
I hope the Government will attach importance to the planning of industrial transformation subsidize the research and development of data usage by smart manufacturing industries assist industrialists in applying the research and development results and train more data science professionals through tertiary institutions and other means so as to meet future demands
更重要的是，政府應改善行業的市場環境，令企業賺取更多利潤，政府又帶頭購買更多產品，從而令薪酬上升，創造更多好工，把市場做大，這樣人才便自然會來。
More importantly the Government should improve the market environment of the industry so that enterprises can make more profits . The Government should also take the lead to purchase more products so that wages will increase and more desirable jobs will be created . Talent will naturally be attracted when the market becomes bigger
除了人才，對製造業市場最重要的是拆牆鬆綁。
In addition to talent removing various restrictions is the most important to the manufacturing market
在立法會，代表勞工界的朋友及代表商界僱主的朋友有時候好像很對立，但我認為這是不必要的。
In the Legislative Council sometimes representatives of the labour sector and those of the business sector and employers seem to be in confrontation with each other but I consider this unnecessary
首先，我相信在座各位，或在香港算得上是僱主級別或高級行政人員級別的人士，誰沒做過"打工仔"呢？
First of all I believe the Honourable colleagues present or people who can be classified as employers or senior executives in Hong Kong have all been wage earners before have they not?
同時僱主亦需要了解到，日後勞資關係真的不能再是這樣的狀況。
Meanwhile employers also need to understand that labour relations really cannot remain in the same state in future
另一點我想說的是，我們經常提及勞工界，有時候我覺得這有少許標籤性質。
Another point I wish to make is that we often mention the labour sector . Sometimes I find this a bit like a label . The word labour sounds toilsome and eking out a living solely on manual labour
"勞工"一詞，聽來好像很辛勞，只是靠勞力，我並非貶低從事勞力工作的朋友，但事實上，經濟正在轉型，很多同樣面對勞資問題的朋友並非純粹單靠所謂勞力。
I am not belittling people engaged in manual labour . However the economy is in fact transforming . Many people who similarly face labour issues are not purely and simply manual workers so to speak
我覺得雙方的合作關係是需要改善的。
In my view the relationship of cooperation between the two parties needs improvement
陸頌雄議員在修正案中提到"強資本、弱勞工"，我覺得這點也正在改變中。
Mr LUK Chung - hung mentioned strong capitalists and weak workers in his amendment . I think this situation is changing too
老實說，現時僱主要招聘員工，並不容易，即使能成功聘請員工，也未必是僱主心目中能幫上忙的人，所以其實大家都在爭奪人才。
Frankly now staff recruitment is not easy . Even if an employer manages to recruit someone the latter may not be the right - hand man in his mind . Hence people are in fact competing for talents
我們在先前的辯論中提到"再工業化"，現時政府又談及新經濟和創科，說到底，我們始終認為人才是最重要的。
Earlier in our debate we mentioned re - industrialization . Now the Government talks about new economy and information and technology . After all we consider talent the most important requisite
相反，很多商界的議員有時候甚至很多時候都非常斤斤計較。
Many Members in the business sector on the contrary are very calculating sometimes or even all the time
說到大和解，我認為勞僱或勞資雙方須先行大和解，香港的社會和經濟才得以向前行。
Speaking of great reconciliation I think there must first be great reconciliation between employees and employers or workers and capitalists before Hong Kong society and economy can move forward