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立法強制增加僱員福利惹來最大的憂慮之一，是會加重中小企和微企的負擔。
One major concern over mandating an increase of employee benefits through legislation is that this will add to the already heavy burden of SMEs and micro enterprises
我想重申，這並非"有良"或"無良"的問題，而是"有能力"和"沒有能力"的問題。
I wish to reiterate that this is not about being unscrupulous or not . Rather this is about having the means or not
一直以來，即使法例未有要求，一些有能力的僱主為挽留員工和吸引新人入行，早已提供3天或更長的侍產假，政府無需立法強制他們這樣做。
All along some employers with the means have already offered three days or a longer duration of paternity leave in order to retain employees and attract new recruits despite the absence of any statutory requirements . It is not necessary for the Government to mandate them to do so through legislation
至於沒有能力的僱主，他們當然反對強制立法的建議，但卻被指責為無良、刻薄。
As for those employers without the means they will certainly oppose the proposal of legislating for the mandatory provision of paternity leave . Nevertheless they have been criticized as being unscrupulous and uncaring
香港失業率長期處於歷史新低，人手短缺，想招聘幫工絕不容易。
Hong Kongs unemployment rate has remained historically low for a prolonged period . Due to manpower shortage it is no easy task at all to recruit substitute workers
因此，如果政府在這個艱難的時候還要加重他們的負擔，會使業界相當失望。
Therefore if the Government has to add to their already heavy burden at this difficult moment the industry will be greatly disappointed
當年引入最低工資時，大家皆不知道會否出現漣漪效應。
When the minimum wage was introduced back then people wondered if it would lead to ripple effects
我當時曾說道會出現這效應，社會今天也認識到漣漪效應的問題。
At the time I said that ripple effects would come as a result and the community also realizes the problems associated with ripple effects today
最低工資水平提升了，水漲船高，一併把其他工資水平拉高。
Like a rising tide that lifts all boats the rise of the minimum wage level has likewise elevated the local wage levels in general
同樣地，政府今天建議把侍產假增至5天，便會令原本自願提供5天侍產假的企業突然變成與其他公司提供的待遇相同，失去原有的吸引力，變相剝削了他們提供福利以吸引人才和人手的機會，亦會進一步剝弱中小企和微企的競爭力，使他們進一步失去提高待遇的本錢，難與大企業競爭。
Similarly with the Governments proposal of increasing the paternity leave duration to five days today those enterprises which have voluntarily offered five days of paternity leave will become no different from other companies as they offer the same employee benefits and the former companies will therefore lose their original appeal . It will literally rip them of the opportunity to attract talents and manpower through the provision of this employee benefit and will further undermine the competitiveness of SMEs and micro enterprises . This will result in their further loss of room for increasing their employee benefits making it even more difficult for them to compete with large enterprises
主席，業界最擔心的，是這次並非"單一事件"。
President the major concern of the industry is that this is not a single incident
當年曾有工會代表遊說我不要反對法定最低工資，並請我隨意訂定一個水平。
Back in that year some trade union representatives lobbied me to put aside my opposition to a statutory minimum wage
他們表示可以接納，不介意由低水平開始。
They asked me to set a level to my hearts content saying that they could accept it and would not mind adopting a low level as a start
理由很簡單，他們只求打開缺口，一打開缺口便可以不斷擴大，成為他們爭取政治本錢的機會。
The reason was simple . They merely wanted to open up a crack and once they had opened up a crack they could keep expanding it and turn it into an opportunity for getting some political leverage
今天有多位議員提出修正案，並有議員提出逐步增加侍產假的日數。
Today various Members have proposed CSAs and some have even proposed a progressive increase of the paternity leave duration
有議員甚至提出"一年一檢"的要求，但最終因為超出《條例草案》的範圍，因此不獲主席批准提出。
In fact a Member had even gone so far as to request a review once every year but eventually such a proposed CSA was ruled inadmissible by the President for being outside the scope of the Bill
事實上，工會的索價素來有增無減，包括引入標準工時、增加最低工資、將勞工假與公眾假期看齊、增長產假、取消強制性公積金對沖機制等。
Actually the demands of trade unions have been ever - increasing . Some examples include the introduction of standard working hours the increase of the minimum wage the standardization of statutory holidays and public holidays the increase of the paternity leave duration and the abolition of the offsetting mechanism under the Mandatory Provident Fund scheme
面對勞工團體不斷叫價，中小企和微企的生存條件每況愈下，香港的競爭力亦難以維持。
With incessant demands from labour groups the room for SMEs and micro enterprises to maintain their very survival is diminishing and it is difficult for Hong Kong to preserve its competitiveness
基於上述原因，飲食界及很多中小企不支持立法強制增加侍產假，因為人手不足。
For the above reasons particularly due to manpower shortage the catering industry and many SMEs do not support the mandatory increase of paternity leave through legislation
局長，如果你希望減輕中小企、微企和服務業的痛楚，便應該輸入勞工，讓僱主聘請人手替補放取侍產假的員工。
Secretary if you wish to alleviate the plight of SMEs micro enterprises and the catering industry you should import labour as a means of enabling employers to recruit workers as substitutes for employees on paternity leave
大家要為居所支付管理費，大廈的員工，無論是管理員、清潔工，他們又提供了甚麼福利呢？
Members may have to pay management fees for their residential properties . What benefits are offered to workers employed by the building including caretakers and cleaning workers? . They have pointed fingers at others saying that they are uncaring
坦白說，何謂行政主導呢？
Frankly speaking what is meant by executive - led?
局長，我覺得你強硬起來是對的。
Secretary I think it is right for you to adopt a firm position
代理主席，我發言支持政府提出的《2018年僱傭條例草案》及其技術性修正案，把法定侍產假增至5天。
Deputy President I speak in support of the Employment Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill introduced by the Government to increase statutory paternity leave to five days as well as the technical amendments thereto
自2015年實施3天侍產假以來，很多在職家庭均希望盡快增加侍產假日數，我希望這個期望可盡快達成。
Since the introduction of a three - day paternity leave in 2015 many families with working couples have hoped that the duration of paternity leave can be increased as early as possible . I equally hope that this can come true soon . Employees benefits in Hong Kong are inadequate
香港的僱員福利確實不足夠，就以10周產假為例，其實已實施三四十年，政府最近才提出增至14周，之前一直也沒有任何行動，立法後才可以說走前了一小步。
It is not until recently that the Government has proposed to increase statutory maternity leave to 14 weeks . To be given effect by legislation such a proposal still represents only a small step forward . Look at what happened after the typhoon Mangkhut had stormed Hong Kong recently
因此，很多時候，也要制訂一套完善機制、福利及政策安排，才能保障"打工仔"。
But this is simply impossible in actual circumstances . Hence it is often necessary to formulate a set of comprehensive mechanisms benefits and policy arrangements to protect workers
說回侍產假，代理主席，大家會不時把香港與境外僱員享有的福利比較，僱主及政府的角色在很多地方其實也有所不同。
Coming back to paternity leave Deputy President we often compare the employees benefits in Hong Kong with those in overseas countries . The roles of employers and the Government in many places are often different
讓我們看看亞洲鄰近地區的情況，例如南韓及台灣的侍產假是5天，台灣稱為陪產假，是由僱主支付的。
Let us take a look at the situation in our neighbouring Asian region . For instance the duration of paternity leave in South Korea and Taiwan is five days . In the case of Taiwan paternity leave is called 陪產假 in Chinese and is paid by employers
再來就是一些已發展的經濟體系如歐洲地區，他們的侍產假則由1周至2周不等，還有育兒假或其他假期薪酬等，不過很大部分是由社會保險、就業保險或政府基金等元素來支付。
Furthermore some developed economies such as some European countries have one to two weeks of paternity leave . These European countries also have parental leave or other leave pays . But the costs so incurred are largely subsidized by social security schemes work insurance schemes or government funds
我手邊這份圖表，是國際勞工組織於2014年發表的一篇有關職場產假與侍產假研究中的圖表，大家可看到支付侍產假薪酬的資金來源分布。
The figures here in my hand are taken from a study on maternity leave and paternity leave in workplaces conducted by the International Labour Organisation in 2014 . We can see the sources of funding for paternity leave benefits
綜觀這些例子，其實很多已發展地區的社會福利保障均由政府提供實質支援，對於作為已發展城市的香港，極具參考價值。
These examples show that social welfare protection in many developed countries is provided by their governments . Hong Kong being a developed city can take these examples as a valuable reference . Deputy President let me come back to the Bill
代理主席，說回《條例草案》，民主建港協進聯盟無論是從保障僱員或支援在職家庭方面，均支持政府適度增加產假及侍產假的日數，例如把侍產假增至5天的其中一個原因，是我們尊重勞工顧問委員會的共識，這是經勞資雙方協商的結果。
The Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB supports the Government to appropriately increase the duration of maternity leave and paternity leave to protect employees and support working families . One of the reasons why we support increasing the paternity leave duration to five days is that we respect the consensus reached by the Labour Advisory Board LAB . It is the result achieved through negotiation between employers and employees
勞顧會在去年年底就侍產假增至5天達成共識。
LAB reached the consensus of increasing paternity leave to five days around the end of last year
其實，勞顧會多年來也具備良好協商的基礎，在過程中，大家透過協商進行討論，並不是單靠叫口號便能推動工作的，最低工資便是一個很好的例子。
In the process we need to work together through discussion and negotiation . This is not something that can be achieved by chanting slogans alone . The minimum wage is a very good example
最低工資在2011年5月開始實施，如果大家於開始時便開出天價，勞資雙方根本無法坐下商討，相信最終現在連最低工資也只是未能成事。
The minimum wage was implemented in May 2011 . If we all asked for a high minimum wage from start it would have been impossible for the employer and employee representatives to sit down and negotiate; and I believe we would not be able to implement the minimum wage in the end
事實上，香港的企業、中小微企佔九成八，在政府沒有提供財政支援的情況下，侍產假該如何增加？
In fact 98 % of the enterprises in Hong Kong are small medium and micro enterprises . Without financial support from the Government how should the duration of paternity leave be increased?
增加的步伐應該快還是慢呢？
Should it be increased slowly or quickly?
我們真的要兼顧各方面的需要，當然，我並不完全同意一些商界朋友說"侍產假一天也不應該有"，我相信這並不代表所有老闆的意思，但由3天增至7天，亦偏離了勞顧會的共識。
We indeed have to consider the needs of different stakeholders . Of course I cannot entirely agree with the remark of a Member from the business sector that there should not even be a single day of paternity leave but I do not believe this is the view of all employers . However in my view increasing paternity leave from three days to seven days also deviates from the consensus of LAB
立法會的勞工界代表及勞顧會的僱員代表剛於星期一發表了一份聲明，指勞資雙方經多輪角力，才達成5天侍產假這個共識，得來不易，因此民建聯支持這項共識，亦會支持政府提出《條例草案》的建議。
Members representing the labour sector in this Council jointly with the employee representatives of LAB issued a statement on Monday stating that the proposed five - day paternity leave is a hard - earned consensus through rounds of tug - of - war between employers and employees . DAB will thus support the consensus and also the proposal introduced by the Government in the Bill
我支持政府修正案的原因，是我同意改善僱員福利需要循序漸進才能繼續向前走。
I support the Governments legislative amendment because I agree that any improvement on employees benefits should be implemented progressively . This is the only way to take this matter forward
根據香港中文大學香港亞太研究所於9月份發表有關侍產假的調查，當中有一點值得大家留意，有五成多受訪者指侍產假增至5天不足夠，但當被問到應否"袋住先"即暫時"收貨"有七成表示可以接受，只有一成六表示不接受。
According to the survey findings on paternity leave by the Hong Kong Institute of Asia - Pacific Studies of The Chinese University of Hong Kong published in September some 50 % of the respondents do not think the increase of paternity leave to five days is long enough but 70 % of them accept it and are willing to pocket it first and only 16 % do not consider it acceptable
很多人也覺得，5天侍產假"袋住先"這個說法得到市民的共識。
Many people think that pocketing it first by accepting the proposed five - day paternity leave is a broad consensus among the public
如果你問我，我當然希望政府能同步承諾，在適當時候，再檢視侍產假日數。
If you ask me what I think I would tell you that I do hope the Government can also undertake to further review the duration of paternity leave in due course
代理主席，猶記得大家在2014年至2015年間討論3天侍產假時，立法會爭論不已。
Deputy President I still remember when the Legislative Council debated the proposed three - day paternity leave in the 2014 - 2015 Session there was also a lot of contention
正如陳志全議員也提到，情景與現時一樣，投票支持3天"袋住先"的議員不斷被叫價7天的議員指責為出賣"打工仔"。
As Mr CHAN Chi - chuen said the situation then was the same as now . Members who voted for the three - day proposal were denounced as traitors to workers by Members who supported the seven - day proposal
大家也留意到剛發表的施政報告，在勞工福利方面，未來會有很多事情等待我們處理，我們應快一點推動更多不同的權益保障，這個5天侍產假的討論應盡快達成共識，亦希望爭取7天的同事不要把事情過於簡單化，以及不斷"妖魔化"支持5天的同事。
We should speed up our efforts to push ahead protection for various labour rights . Thus we should expeditiously reach a consensus here and conclude this debate on the five - day proposal on paternity leave . I also hope that Members who fight for the seven - day proposal will not over - simplify the matter and demonize Members who support the five - day proposal
當然，不單提供多些假期，對於如何增加彈性上下班時間、如何鼓勵僱主提供多些家庭友善政策、如何提供多些財政誘因等，這些也是民建聯家庭事務委員會過去多年來建議多做的事情。
Indeed apart from providing more holidays the Family Affairs Committee of DAB have also asked the Government to consider how to make working hours more flexible how to encourage employers to put in place more family - friendly policies and how to provide more financial incentives
代理主席，最後，我想以自己的親身體驗作總結。
Deputy President lastly I wish to share my personal experience to conclude
我有3名小朋友，我第一名兒子在2007年出生，當時沒有侍產假。
I have three little children . My first son was born in 2007 and there was no paternity leave then . Actually I have not enjoyed any paternity leave since I became a Legislative Council Member
其實我今天當了立法會議員也沒有，但回憶起當爸爸的過程真的不清閒，這個假期並不是真假期，由請假的第一天起，太太已有很多事情等着我幫忙，包括如何讓太太好好休養身體、給多些時間照顧她，又要幫忙照顧小 朋友、更換尿片等，其實這個假期並非假期，而是實實在在有很多事情要做。
But I remember the time when I became a father it was really busy . I took leave but it was no holiday . There were many things waiting for me to do for my wife since the first day of my leave such as how to let my wife take a good rest and spare more time to look after her and I also have to help taking care of the children by for instance changing their diapers
所以，我覺得今天這個侍產假的討論可讓坊間更能體諒及明白，現時香港的年青家庭所面對的種種壓力，希望能給予他們多些支援和鼓勵，而不是不斷呼籲他們生育便可。
It was really no holiday and there were so many things to attend to . Hence I think this debate on paternity leave today can enable the public to understand and know more about the pressure facing young families in Hong Kong now . I hope that this debate can give them more support and encouragement rather than just urging them to have more children
最後，我希望立法會能早日通過《條例草案》，盡快讓香港的父親享有5天侍產假。
Last but not least I hope the Legislative Council can expeditiously pass the Bill so that parents in Hong Kong can be entitled to paternity leave of five days as early as possible
我謹此陳辭，支持政府的修正案。
I so submit and support the Governments legislative amendment
代理主席，其實我今早和昨天也聽到很多同事發言，就侍產假進行討論。
Deputy President in fact this morning and yesterday I listened to many colleagues speeches on paternity leave
我留意到大部分同事也很清楚5天侍產假的安排，因為這是勞工顧問委員會得出的共識。
I have noticed that most of the colleagues are also well aware of the five - day paternity leave arrangement because this is the consensus of the Labour Advisory Board LAB
因此，就這一點，儘管有部分同事認為可能會影響整個企業的營運過程，但大致上大家也同意5天侍產假。
Therefore on this point although some colleagues hold the view that it may affect the operation of the entire enterprise generally all agree to the provision of five - day paternity leave
有同事提出是否應該改為7天呢？
Some colleagues raised the question of whether it should be changed to seven days
我只想提出一個觀點，是我比較少聽到的，其實張宇人議員也曾提及，就是企業在經營過程中是否有能力的問題。
I just wish to make a point which I rarely heard and in fact Mr Tommy CHEUNG has also mentioned . It is the question of whether an enterprise has the ability to run the business
但有關安排亦牽涉一些沒有能力的中小微企，如果他們要應付各種不同的勞工權益，牽涉的成本開支將會上升，這個似乎是很清楚擺在桌面上的問題。
However the arrangement also involves some micro small and medium enterprises which do not have such ability . If they have to comply with the requirements for various labour rights and interests the cost involved will rise . This seems to be an issue very clearly put on the table
我也高興得悉勞顧會得出5天侍產假的共識，即是僱主願意，並且認為5天侍產假的薪酬是可以應付的事情。
I am also pleased to learn that LAB has come to the consensus of a five - day paternity leave which means that employers are willing to and consider themselves able to pay for five - day paternity leave
當然，如果政府能夠全薪支付5天侍產假，是否也應將此做法加入現時的修正案內呢？
Of course if the Government can cover the cost of granting full pay during the five - day paternity leave should we also include this into the amendments introduced under the current exercise?
但是，我想討論的是另外兩天侍產假，即由5天增至7天的問題，可能也是整個討論中，最多爭議的部分。
However I would like to discuss the issue about the additional two days of paternity leave that is the increase from five days to seven days which is probably the most controversial part of the whole discussion . I have all along heard colleagues say that they have to fight for paternity leave with the Government and the Government says that this issue has been referred to LAB . According to the Government since LABs consensus is a five - day paternity leave we do not need to bother so much
我認為其中一個考慮點，也是回到基本盤，便是在市場上有能力的企業其實不一定會對沖的，但沒有能力的企業卻面對一定要對沖的問題。
Back to the basics I think one of the considerations is that offsetting is not necessarily a problem for those capable enterprises in the market but those incapable have no alternative but to face it
因此，政府通過公帑作一個我們稱為"財富再分配"的過程。
Therefore the Government has acted to effect a process of wealth redistribution as we call it by means of public money
即使企業也有這個問題，對嗎？
Even enterprises have this problem right?
同樣道理，接下來的修訂也會提出，將產假由10星期變成14星期，多出4星期的款項，應由政府支付。
By the same token the forthcoming amendments will also propose to extend the maternity leave from 10 weeks to 14 weeks and that the pay for the extra four weeks should be funded by the Government
餘下增加兩天侍產假的問題，如果今天有幸通過7天侍產假，而政府願意承擔這種狀態，而且正如張宇人議員所說，既然只相差兩天，如果政府認為7天侍產假合情合理，是在今天的現代社會應有的勞工權益，政府可否承擔這兩天的款項呢？
As regards the remaining issue of two extra days of paternity leave I hope that today we are lucky enough to endorse the seven - day paternity leave and the Government is willing to take on responsibility for it . As Mr Tommy CHEUNG put it since there are only two days of difference if the Government thinks that seven - day paternity leave is an appropriate and reasonable labour right for todays modern society can it shoulder the payment for these two days?
還是如果修訂獲通過，政府除了撤回《條例草案》，便沒有其他方法解決問題呢？
Or else if the amendment is passed will the Government have no alternative solution but to withdraw the Bill?
政府可否提供一個答案，讓大家想一想？
Can the Government offer an answer for our consideration?
如果在議會裏7天侍產假是一個共識，我們相差的，只是就餘下兩天如何處理融資的問題。
If the provision of seven - day paternity leave is a consensus in the Council the only difference among us lies in the issue of funding for the extra two days
就這個部分，如果政府願意承擔相應的責任，其實我們剛才說很多距離很遠的事情，例如影響企業營運、影響勞顧會共識等事情，是否也可以有機會讓議會經過討論後得出一個結論，並找到一個解決方法呢？
In this respect if the Government is willing to take on responsibility will there be an opportunity for the Council to reach a conclusion after discussion and find a solution to the numerous distant matters that we talked about earlier such as the impact on business operation and LABs consensus?
我個人十分希望從這樣的角度探討侍產假的問題；否則，不論是麥美娟議員或其他同事也經常說，我們將一些課題變成政治議題的這種情景，將會無日無之。
I personally very much hope to explore the issue of paternity leave from this perspective . Otherwise as Ms Alice MAK or other colleagues often say the trend of turning some topics into political issues will become the order of the day
作為一個政府，當看到社會上兩陣對圓時，其中一個責任便是找出一些方法，把結解開，而不是說不管那麼多，就讓大家爭拗，如果大家不要勞顧會的共識便作罷，這是不正確的態度。
When the Government sees confrontation between two camps in society particularly in this Council one of its responsibilities is to find some ways to untie the knot . It is incorrect to assume a devil - may - care attitude to let the argument rage on and leave LABs consensus discarded . Therefore Deputy President with this brief speech I just wish to raise a point
所以，代理主席，我簡短發言，只是想提出，既然在議會上我聽不到大家對侍產假的本質或原則有很大的爭議，主要的爭議是財政來源的問題，而財政來源的問題，似乎一直將整個矛盾放在僱傭雙方，特別是僱主pay up上，政府是否可以擔當一個角色，介入處理有關問題呢？
I have not heard much controversy in this Council about the nature or principle of paternity leave . The main controversy is about the issue of funding which seems to have all along been portrayed as a conflict between employers and employees particularly in relation to the employers ability to pay . Can the Government play an intervening role to deal with the relevant issues?
事實上，即使我們通過侍產假的修訂安排，有關法例的生效日期也會由勞工及福利局以憲報公告指定日期開始作實。
In fact even if any amendment on paternity leave is passed the relevant legislation will come into operation on a day to be appointed by the Labour and Welfare Bureau by notice published in the Gazette
換言之，即使我們通過一定修訂，如果政府能夠承諾，修訂所需要的額外支出由政府承擔，其實這是否一個解決的路徑呢？
In other words if we pass certain amendments and the Government undertakes to shoulder the additional expenses arising from the amendments will this be a solution?
需要承擔的款項，是否天文數字呢？
Will the necessary commitment be an astronomical sum?
大家想一想，如果是7天侍產假，以支薪五分之四的方案來計算，每年所帶來的額外成本是1億6,800萬元；說得難聽一點，我們擔沙填海，填出來的沙也不止這個數目。
Let us think about it . In the case of seven - day paternity leave if calculated based on the proposal of four fifths of the employees daily wages the extra cost so incurred per year is 168 million . It may sound harsh but the sand for our reclamation projects might cost more than this amount
所以，我認為政府有責任理順議會上大家的矛盾。
Therefore I consider that the Government has the responsibility to straighten out the contradictions in this Council
如果政府有能力協助把結解開，便應付諸實行。
If the Government has the ability to help untie the knot it should exercise such ability
從這樣的角度出發，才是做好修補行政立法關係的工作所應有的態度。
Only from this perspective can it foster the appropriate attitude to do a good job in mending the relationship between the executive and the legislature
各位議員非常關心侍產假這項議題，從昨天至今已有32位議員發言。
Members are very concerned about the current issue of paternity leave . Thirty - two Members have spoken since yesterday
黃議員的修正案的精髓，在於納入了勞工顧問委員會的決定。
The essence of Dr WONGs amendment is that it has incorporated the decision of the Labour Advisory Board LAB
換言之，如黃議員的修正案獲得通過，便能滿足勞顧會的要求，餘下的只是一條尾巴，簡單來說，就是1年後將侍產假增至7天。
In other words if Dr WONGs amendment is passed LABs requirements will be met; and the only outstanding matter is simply put to increase paternity leave to seven days after a year
勞工界和民主派多年來提出7天侍產假的建議。
Nevertheless the labour sector and the democrats have been advocating the proposal of seven days paternity leave for years
5天與7天侍產假只相差兩天，實質意義何在？
The proposal of five days or seven days paternity leave only differs by two days . What is the actual implication?
當中涉及資金來源的問題。
The point at issue is the source of funding
羅致光局長剛才說，考慮到特別是中小微企的承擔能力，政府會對中小微企在處理相關問題上所需承擔的資源提供支援，並由政府"包底"。
As stated by Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong earlier in consideration of the affordability of enterprises in particular micro small and medium enterprises the Government will financially support such enterprises in handling the relevant issues and undertake to underwrite the shortfall
我相信屆時如果特區政府認為這兩天侍產假的開支會由政府承擔，又或是將來經進一步討論後完善政策，當然還要勞顧會取得新共識，這便正是解決問題的最好方法。
I believe by then if the SAR Government considers that it will fund the expenditures arising from the two extra days of leave or if the policy is refined after further discussions in the future and with a new consensus reached by LAB the problem will be solved in the most effective way
在議會進行議案辯論，正正會產生各種可能性和變數，特區政府亦要考慮如何回應。
When motion debates are held in the Legislative Council many possibilities and uncertainties will arise and the SAR Government has to consider how to respond to them
如果政府決定不仔細思考，總之議員如通過修正案，政府便撤回 《條例草案》，不讓其通過，我認為這種做法真的只會令行政立法關係沒有出路，我只是想指出這點。
If the Government does not give thorough consideration and simply decides to withdraw the Bill to stop its passage should any amendment be passed then I do not think the approach will provide a way out of the impasse in the executive - legislative relationship . I only wish to raise this point
如果我們將矛頭指向特區政府，建議由政府承擔7天侍產假中額外兩天假期的開支，這樣是否可以突破現時的困局，令我們既能尊重勞顧會的決定，亦能尊重議會的共識？
However if we target at the SAR Government and propose that it should bear the expenditures incurred from the two extra of paternity leave out of the seven days leave will the current deadlock be broken so that both LABs decision and the consensus of the Legislative Council will be respected?
當然，我十分明白，我剛才這番話需要局長作出新的表述和表態，才有機會說服同事，但這是雞與雞蛋的問題。
Certainly I fully understand that my remarks can only convince Members if the Secretary states his new stance but this is a chicken and egg question