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楊岳橋議員，梁議員要求你澄清她被誤解的部分。
Mr Alvin YEUNG Dr LEUNG requests that you should explain the part of her speech which has been misunderstood
你可以選擇澄清，亦可以選擇繼續發言。
You may choose to clarify or you may choose to continue with your speech
楊議員，請你繼續。
Mr YEUNG please continue
多謝代理主席英明引用《議事規則》。
I wish to thank the Deputy President for applying the Rules of Procedure so wisely
當然，我亦很感謝建制派議員這麼關心及緊張我的言詞。
Certainly I also wish to thank pro - establishment Members for showing such concern and care about my speech
雖然我覺得我亦有空間，讓梁美芬議員澄清她剛才要求我澄清的言詞部分，究竟她說我經常斷章取義，能否試列舉之？
Nevertheless I am not going to even though I think I also have reasons for asking Dr Priscilla LEUNG to clarify what she wants me to clarify
如果她能引用一些具體例子，以教育我，可能有助我以後能夠避免重蹈覆轍。
But can she just give some examples which can show that I frequently quote others speeches out of context? . Perhaps she can give some specific examples to enlighten me and help me avoid making the same mistake again in the future
不過，正所謂議會時間如此寶貴，我們無謂斟酌我究竟有否斷章取義梁美芬議員所說我斷章取義她所說的話。
However the time of the Legislative Council is so precious as we often say . I do not think that we should dwell on whether I really quoted the words concerned out of context as Dr Priscilla LEUNG claimed
我們不如返回今次的辯論，可能對大家更有裨益，代理主席。
We should return to the present debate . This may be better to all of us Deputy President
剛才我們在討論究竟應否支持毛孟靜議員今次這項中止待續議案時，亦說到香港社會對於"一地兩檢"的態度。
Just now we were discussing whether we should support Ms Claudia MOs adjournment motion and we talked about how society as a whole looked at the co - location arrangement
正常來 說，政府提交立法會的法案/議案，無論有多好，都應該經過公眾諮詢或業界諮詢。
Normally any billsmotions put before the Legislative Council by the Government should be preceded by public consultation or consultation in the relevant sectors
代理主席，正如大家都同意，諮詢能夠了解社會對某些法案或議題的一些態度和立場。
Deputy President everyone agrees that consultation will help the Government understand the attitudes and standpoints of society regarding a bill or a topic . We are all normal people
我們人人都是正常人，每天只有24小時，只有兩隻耳朵，沒可能聽到所有意見。
All of us have only 24 hours a day . Each of us has two ears only . It is therefore impossible for us to listen to all opinions
所以，如果由政府運用公家資源，去了解市民的看法和立場。
For that reason it will be much better if the Government can use public resources to gauge the viewpoints and standpoints of people
無論意見只有兩句，還是洋洋灑灑的千字文，先由政府整理，然後向我們匯報，我們便會更清楚了解香港人真正的想法。
Public views may just be presented in a few lines or they may be an essay of a thousand words but whatever the case may be if the Government can collate such views beforehand and then report to us we will be able to get a clearer picture of the real thoughts of Hong Kong people
當然，代理主席，現在的問題是，西九"一地兩檢"是因為政府沒有進行正規的公眾諮詢。
Of course Deputy President the current problem is that the Government has not conducted any formal public consultation on the co - location arrangement at West Kowloon Station
現時政府只是引述數個民間組織做的民調，表示大多數香港市民支持"一地兩檢"，便將相關議案提交立法會。
The Government has only cited the opinion polls conducted by several community organizations . Then it claims that the majority of Hong Kong people support the co - location arrangement and puts a government motion before the Legislative Council
代理主席，我本人並非民調或統計學的專家，我亦無意在這裏判斷哪個民調可信，哪個民調不可信。
Deputy President I am not an expert in opinion polls or statistics and I have no intention to judge which opinion poll can be trusted or which cannot be trusted
代理主席，如果我們無視資料不足、不齊全的事實，而仍然去討論相關議案。我相信，是對不起我們的選民及廣大的香港市民。
Deputy President if we ignore the fact that the information is inadequate and incomplete and still go ahead with the debate on the government motion then I think we will let our voters and Hong Kong people down
此外，代理主席，我們也要看看與高鐵相關的持份者的立場。
Moreover Deputy President we must look at the standpoints of the relevant stakeholders of the Express Rail Link XRL
例如前律政司司長，特區政府成立後的首任律政司司長梁愛詩，她全力支持"一地兩檢"，但是，大家都仍然記得，她不久前曾經說過"不如炸掉高鐵站"。
For example a former Secretary for Justice and in fact the first Secretary for Justice after the setting up of the SAR Government Ms Elsie LEUNG said that she fully supported the co - location arrangement . But everyone should remember her saying that it would be better to blow up the XRL station
當然，她隨後亦有澄清這點沒有斷章取義因為梁愛詩女士後來說"炸掉高鐵"這個論調，其實只是說笑。
Of course she subsequently clarified that the remark on blowing up of the XRL station was simply a joke
連地位崇高，我相信在席每位建制派都必然恭敬幾分的梁愛詩女士，都尚且會就這番言論是說笑。
Even Ms Elsie LEUNG a person of such a high status whom every pro - establishment Member will respect could crack a joke on this issue
政府今天說48分鐘到達廣州，又難保同樣獲得尊重的陳帆局長，會否在數個月後又走出來說這個其實是說笑？
The Government now says it will take only 48 minutes to travel from West Kowloon Station to Guangzhou . But only God knows whether the equally respectable Secretary Frank CHAN will say a few months later that this is just a joke
建制派搬出居民，又搬出朋友，說他們支持"一地兩檢"，數個月後，又會否說人物是純屬虛構呢，代理主席？
Pro - establishment Members now claim that residents and their friends support the co - location arrangement . But after a few months will they say that these people are simply fictitious Deputy President?
說到前高官，當然我們亦都不能忘記的，就是前運輸及房屋局局長鄭汝樺，她曾經說過："沒有'一地兩檢'，不等於沒有高速"，"現在北京、上海，當然它們是大城市，有自己的口岸，其他城市可以用其他方法，會不會有一個比較折衷的方法呢？
Speaking of former principal officials we cannot skip Ms Eva CHENG a former Secretary for Transport and Housing . She once said Even without co - location clearance we will not lose the XRL . She also said Beijing and Shanghai are big cities and they of course have their own boundary - crossings
今時今日，我們聽到陳局長所說的，與當天聽鄭局長所說的也有很大的不同。
What we hear from Secretary CHAN now is not very different from what we heard from Secretary CHENG in the past
我們不希望在十年八載後，拿出陳局長今天所說的，屆時又說與事實不符，這亦是為陳局長好。
The one thing we do not want to see is that after 8 or 10 years what Secretary CHAN said today is proven factually incorrect . We are just trying to do good to Secretary CHAN
所以，代理主席，既然如此，我們何必急於一時，何必急於一刻呢？
That being case Deputy President why must we be so impatient and why must we rush along like this?
比較好的做法，當然把事實擺出來、說清楚，讓大家安心。
It is better of course to reveal all the facts and explain everything thoroughly so as to give everyone peace of mind
代理主席，我想在演辭的第二部分，就"無約束力議案"幾個字討論一下。
Deputy President I wish to discuss the term a motion with no legislative effect in the second part of my speech
政府這次以無約束力議案的方法，將"一地兩檢"方案提交立法會辯論，首先，我們要研究一下何謂無約束力議案，以及政府為何在正式提交"一地兩檢"的相關法案前，先來一次無約束力的議案呢？
This time around the Government attempts to start discussion on the co - location arrangement in the Legislative Council through the moving of a motion with no legislative effect . First of all we must think about what a motion with no legislative effect is . And we must also realize why the Government wants to put forward a motion with no legislative effect before formally submitting a bill on the co - location arrangement
但是，這有其好處，就是讓議會有機會就施政、政策或某種議題促請政府做某些事，或向政府表明議會的立場。
In other words such a motion is for mere discussion only . But it can still serve a good purpose the purpose of allowing the legislature to urge the Government to take certain actions in certain policy areas or on certain topics . It can also enable the legislature to state its stance to the Government
例如立法會每星期也在議程上如果市民留意一下最後便是無約束力的議員議案，議案措辭大約是："本會促請政府......
If members of the public care to find out they will see that the last item on the agenda of the Legislative Council meeting every week is invariably a motion with no legislative effect
"，以表明立法會對於某項議題的看法，讓政府知道將來如果提交相同議題到立法會時應如何處理。
This serves to express the opinions of the Legislative Council on a certain topic and to let the Government know what it should do when it submits the same topic to the Legislative Council in the future
但是，政府提出無約束力議案又所為何事呢？
But why has the Government still moved this motion with no legislative effect?
我們不妨溫故知新，上次特區政府向立法會提交無約束力議案已經是15年前的2002年，當時政府趕着推行高官問責制，向立法會動議......
Let us refresh our memory a bit here . The last time that the SAR Government proposed a motion with no legislative effect in the Legislative Council was 15 years ago in 2002 . At that time the Government wanted to rush through the Accountability System for Principal Officials so it moved in the Legislative Council a
我認為楊岳橋議員對於《議事規則》和程序的論述太多，與中止待續議案好像有點相距。
I think Mr Alvin YEUNGs discussion on the Rules of Procedure and procedural matters is probably getting too long . His discussion is not quite so related to the adjournment motion
楊議員，我想提醒你，你是第十七位議員就是否支持毛議員提出的辯論中止待續議案發言，請你 不要詳細論述背景資料、其他議員已經提述的內容，以及談論當局提交無立法效力議案的安排。
Mr YEUNG I wish to remind you that you are the 17 Member to speak on the question of whether Ms Claudia MOs adjournment motion should be supported . Please do not dwell on the background information those points that other Members have already discussed and the Administrations arrangements for moving motions with no legislative effect
多謝代理主席提醒，更多謝何俊賢議員有如昨天一般那麼關心我的演辭，亦多謝他的提醒。
My thanks to the Deputy President for her advice . I also thank Mr Steven HO for paying so much attention to my speech today and yesterday . I wish to thank him for his reminder
不過，我亦想提醒何議員，在議員作出論點和論述時，不將背景資料拿出來以協助自己，那麼我們又辯論甚麼呢，代理主席？
But I likewise want to give him one . What is the point of having a debate if Members are not allowed to aid themselves with some background information when making a point and advancing an argument Deputy President?
不過，我知道代理主席的提示，我亦會跟從代理主席的提醒。
Anyway I appreciate the Deputy Presidents reminder and I will follow her advice
說回上一次，市民有需要知道政府上次提出無約束力議案是何時，便是15年前。
I am talking about the last time . I think the public need to know when was the last time that the Government moved a motion with no legislative effect . It was 15 years ago
上次提出過，效果如何，大家有目共睹，究竟高官問責制是否那麼有效順暢？
Such a motion was moved at that time and the effectiveness of the policy has been evident to all . Has the functioning of the accountability system been effective at all?
代理主席，在這裏容許我引用一位專欄作者的文章，"無約束力議案的作用，是讓議會就某一議題表態。
Deputy President please allow me to quote some words from a columnist The purpose of a motion with no legislative effect is to let the legislature declare its position on a certain topic
如果政府是民選的話，議會的這把聲音，政府無論如何都要聽。
If the Government is returned by the people it must listen to the voice of the legislature under any circumstances
而回歸以後，政府只曾三次提交無約束力議案給立法會審議，目的，就是藉此獲得議會的授權無約束力議案，一般傾一兩日會就能完事，非常快靚正。
Since the reunification the Government has moved only three motions with no legislative effective for debate in the Legislative Council . The purpose is to obtain authorization from the legislature . In general the debate on a motion with no legislative effect can be completed in one or two days which is fast and nice indeed
" 代理主席，這位作者的文筆雖然不是特別好，但其觀點我是完全同意，亦正正因為這樣，是我支持毛孟靜議員提出辯論中止待續的議案的最大理據。
Deputy President the columnists language is not particularly impressive . But I totally support his viewpoint . And this viewpoint is precisely the biggest reason for my support of Ms Claudia MOs adjournment motion
不過，我希望在我結束引述這段文章後，在我的演辭結束前特別申報一下，剛才這位文筆不太好的專欄作者是本人楊岳橋。
But after quoting from the article and before ending my speech I need to declare one thing . The columnist whose language is not particularly impressive is named Alvin YEUNG
邵家臻議員，請發言。
Mr SHIU Ka - chun please speak
梁議員，剛才提到有一種說法，指根據現時的"一地兩檢"方案，設於西九龍站的內地口岸區會在法律上被視為香港境外地方，所以並不存在違反《基本法》第十八條的問題。
Mr LEUNG just now I was talking about one argument the argument that since the Mainland Port Area set up in the West Kowloon Station under the co - location arrangement will be regarded as a place outside Hong Kong from the legal point of view there will be no question of contravening Article 18 of the Basic Law
但是實質上，有很多法律界人士曾經指出，《基本法》內並無條文指明可收窄《基本法》在香港的實施範圍。
But many people from the legal sector have pointed out that the entire Basic Law actually does not provide that the territory of HKSAR governed by the Basic Law can be reduced
我也曾作出研究，並非盲目反對，據政府表示，港方並非完全將司法管轄權交出，所以在內地口岸範圍，有6種牽涉車廂運作、車站服務營辦及乘客之間民事糾紛的事項，香港法例仍然適用。
I have done some research and I am not opposing the proposal blindly . According to the Government Hong Kong will not surrender its jurisdiction completely and the laws of Hong Kong will still apply in the Mainland Port Area in six areas relating to compartment operation station services and civil disputes among passengers
然而，香港市民最擔心的並非這些問題，而是內地執法人員，包括內地公安和國安人員會根據內地所理解的準則，在西九龍站執行刑事司法管轄權。
However these issues are not the gravest concern of Hong Kong people . Rather their gravest concern is that Mainland law enforcement personnel including public security and national security personnel may exercise jurisdiction at the West Kowloon Station according to Mainland standards
香港市民對此有實質的擔心，憂慮香港人的人身自由、言論自由、出入境自由會因為政府現時提出的"一地兩檢"方案而受損。
This is the real worry of Hong Kong people; they fear that their freedom of the person freedom of speech and freedom to enter or leave HKSAR may be undermined as a result of the co - location arrangement proposed by the Government
這些都是很具體及實質的問題，政府必須回應。
All these are our specific and real concerns and the Government must address them
政府亦補充，車站的內地口岸區會設有器械室及羈留設施，讓執法人員有足夠裝備應對暴力及襲擊罪行，並有權將違法者押回內地進行調查及審訊。
The Government has added that the Mainland Port Area in the West Kowloon Station will be fitted with equipment rooms and detention facilities so that Mainland law enforcement personnel can be adequately equipped to counter crimes of violence and assault and can have the power to take offenders to the Mainland for investigation and trial
如有香港人在站內被內地執法人員拘捕，會按既定機制作出通報，當局並強調在對香港人的保障方面，會盡可能做得更好。
If any Hong Kong resident is arrested by Mainland law enforcement personnel in the West Kowloon Station a notification will be issued under the established mechanism . The Government stresses that it will do its best to provide better protection to Hong Kong people
我們擔心的是為何明明在香港土地上，明明是香港的範圍，卻突然因這個安排而變成內地公安可在此執法。
The Mainland Port Area is plainly inside the territory and boundary of Hong Kong but all of a sudden because of the co - location arrangement Mainland public security personnel can exercise jurisdiction over there . This is instead our concern
我相信這對很多香港人來說均屬不能接受。
I believe this is unacceptable to many Hong Kong people
我們所擔心的已不是能否登入某個網站或使用Facebook的問題，不是這個層次的事，而是關注《基本法》明文賦予香港市民的言論自由、表達自由，本來可受到保障而不受干預，但卻因政府突然宣布的此一安排而有可能改變，這實在是一個極壞的先例。
Our concern is no longer as simple as website access and Facebook usage . Our concern is no longer as simple as that . Rather our concern is that Hong Kong peoples freedom of speech and freedom of expression are expressly protected by the Basic Law against any intervention but then because of the Governments sudden announcement of this proposal such freedoms of ours may be undermined
很多評論也指出，先例一開，在車站以外的其他地區也可實施相同做法，藉以收緊香港人本來受到保障的自由。
This is really a very bad precedent . Many commentaries have pointed out once a precedent is set the same arrangement may then be extended to places outside the West Kowloon Station as a means of curtailing Hong Kong peoples freedoms which are otherwise protected by the Basic Law
這全都是政府需要回應的問題。
The Government must address this concern
最近議會對修改《議事規則》或"一地兩檢"的討論，皆觸動了大家很敏感的神經，令人非常關注。
The legislature has recently been holding discussions on amending the Rules of Procedure and the co - location arrangement . Both issues are most sensitive causing grave concern
確實，兩方的意見也非常極端：這一邊的意見認為"一地兩檢"一定要通過，另一邊的意見則認為"一地兩檢"絕對不能通過。
Indeed the views held by the two sides are poles apart . One side insists that the co - location arrangement must be passed but the other side maintains that the arrangement must not be approved
從《基本法》的角度來看，《基本法》的條文特別是第十八條訂明，全國性法律除列於《基本法》附件三外，不能在香港實施。
Let us look at the issue from the perspective of the Basic Law . Article 18 of the Basic Law along with other provisions provides that no national laws shall be applied in Hong Kong except for those listed in Annex III
而且，任何列入附件三的法律，僅限於有關國防和外交，以及按《基本法》規定，不屬於香港自治範圍的法律。
Moreover laws listed in Annex III shall be confined to those relating to defence and foreign affairs as well as those outside the autonomy of Hong Kong as specified by the Basic Law
此外，《基本法》第一百五十四條亦訂明，香港對世界各國或各地區的人入境、逗留和離境，可實行出入境管制。
Furthermore Article 154 of the Basic Law provides that Hong Kong may apply immigration controls on entry into stay in and departure from Hong Kong by persons from foreign states and regions
所以，同事當然會明白為何"一地兩檢"如此富爭議性。
So Members will certainly understand why the co - location arrangement is so controversial
我相信大家也明白，為何這邊的同事對於"一地兩檢"如此在意，因為他們跟我一樣，認為《基本法》的條文寫得十分清楚，要如此運用《基本法》第二十條，尋求全國人民代表大會常務委員會授權香港實施"一地兩檢"，我們認為此做法不妥當。
I also trust that Members can understand why we on this side are so concerned about the co - location arrangement . We are of the view that the Basic Law provisions are very clear and it will be inappropriate to invoke Article 20 for the purpose of seeking authorization from the Standing Committee of the National Peoples Congress for Hong Kong to implement the co - location arrangement
即使《基本法》第二十條訂明可以這樣授權，也不代表可以違反《基本法》的其他條文。
Even if Article 20 of the Basic Law allows such authorization this does not mean that other provisions of the Basic Law can be contravened
剛才很多建制派同事說，這邊很多議員不喜歡內地，很多時候不願意回內地，也不對內地的事感到有任何興趣。
Just now many pro - establishment Members talked about our dislike of the Mainland our unwillingness to visit the Mainland and our indifference to Mainland affairs
我曾經由深圳北乘坐高鐵前往武漢大學，到那裏授課。
I also have the experience of taking the high - speed rail from Shenzhen North to Wuhan University for a teaching duty there
我們並非如你們說的那樣，完全不知道高鐵的好處，並非完全不理解或不嘗試明白高鐵的發展。
Unlike how pro - establishment Members have described us we are not ignorant of the merits of the XRL nor are we completely oblivious of or reluctant to acquaint ourselves with its development
這邊的同事對於《基本法》條文，在字面上的理解，是十分清楚的。
We on this side all have a very clear understanding of the letter and spirit of the Basic Law provisions
因此，我們必須提述我們的論點和提出反對。
Hence we must raise our arguments and objection
因為如果你說可以在香港劃一個圈，然後在該處不實施《基本法》，令香港人本身在《基本法》下擁有的法律權利和保障完全消失，這確實是一件大事。
The consequence will indeed be very very serious if we can just mark off a certain place in Hong Kong stop the application of the Basic Law there and suddenly and completely strip Hong Kongs people legal rights and protection under the Basic Law in that particular place
我們反對"一地兩檢"絕對不是最少我代表我自己說不是出於對內地有很大的負面看法，又或因為我們認為高鐵是怪物，凡是有關高鐵的便無論如何也要反對。
Our objection to the co - location arrangement has nothing to do with whether we have any ill - feelings towards the Mainland . This is true at least in my own case . Nor do we consider XRL so monstrous that we oppose everything related to it at all cost
而是因為《基本法》的條文是如此訂明，而當年通過撥款時，時任運輸及房屋局局長真的說過會考慮其他方案："兩地兩檢"或"車上檢"。
Rather our objection is based on the provisions of the Basic Law . And you know years ago when the funding was approved the then Secretary for Transport and Housing did say that other options such as on - board clearance and separate - location arrangement would be considered
當然，有人會問，如果真的就"一地兩檢"進行公眾諮詢，那麼《基本法》的問題或方案所衍生的法律問題是否便會消失呢？
Of course one may query if a public consultation on the co - location arrangement can remove all the problems with regard to the Basic Law or all the legal issues arising from the proposal
很可惜，政府選擇一步跳到現時的"一地兩檢"方案，而且採取在法律上非常極端的做法。
Regrettably the Government has chosen to jump right over to the present co - location proposal and to take a very extreme approach to the issue of legality
無論看美國和加拿大的所謂"一地兩檢"方案和做法，或美國和愛爾蘭的"一地兩檢"方法，甚至英國和法國之間的"一地兩檢"方法均不是這樣的。
When we look at the co - location arrangement between the United States and Canada between the United States and Ireland or even between the Britain and France we can see they are all dissimilar to ours
例如，在愛爾蘭要進行美國的"一地兩檢"，愛爾蘭政府不會令其人民失去該國憲法所授予的權利和保障。
For instance when going through United States co - location clearance in Ireland Irish nationals are not deprived of their constitutional rights and safeguards
但是，大家看到香港的"一地兩檢"卻是，當你走到西九龍區總站實施"一地兩檢"的地方，進入內地的部分時，你將完全受到內地法律的監管，而《基本法》給予的保障亦會完全消失。
In contrast under the co - location arrangement we see in Hong Kong once you enter the Mainland portion of the co - location area in West Kowloon Station you are totally subject to the control and regulation of Mainland laws and are stripped of all the protection under the Basic Law
其實很多香港人也關心，即使政府強行通過方案，亦最低限度要解釋清楚，在我們走進這地區，上車之後，當香港的法律和《基本法》不再適用時，那麼適用於我們本身的法律，會受到甚麼影響？
It is actually a matter of concern to many Hong Kong people . They think that even if the Government wants to push through its proposal it should at least explain clearly what will happen if we become involved in law issues after entering the co - location area and boarding the train when all Hong Kong laws and the Basic Law cease to apply
到時，很多事也可能會發生，如果發生意外，如果有人觸犯內地法律而不自知，或不論甚麼原因，例如有乘客在西九龍總站被人逮捕，究竟對於他們相關的法律規範會有甚麼影響？
By then a lot may happen . Accidents may occur someone may unknowingly break Mainland laws or a passenger may be arrested at West Kowloon Station for various reasons . How will these people be affected legally speaking?
這些香港人一貫抱有的權利概念，到時均會變成泡影。
These long - held concepts we have about our rights will vanish in a puff of smoke by then
所以，我希望大家真的明白，這些並非憑空想象出來，無中生有，完全沒有根據的顧慮。
Therefore I do hope all of us can understand that these concerns are not pure fabrication and imagination . Nor are they unfounded worries
我希望大家先聆聽他們的顧慮是甚麼？
I hope all of us can listen to their worries first
我當然也樂意聆聽。
Of course I am also prepared to listen
若有人解釋為甚麼高鐵一定要"一地兩檢"或為甚麼不能採用其他方案，我也願意聆聽這些意見。
I will also be willing to listen if people are going to explain why the co - location arrangement must be adopted or why the other alternatives cannot be adopted in the XRL project
這麼多年來，我們一再詢問司長和局長，多次查詢究竟會在何時落實"一地兩檢"的方案？或有否其他的方案可以考慮？
Over the years we have asked the Secretaries time and again when a co - location proposal will be finalized or whether there are alternative proposals to be considered
其實大家也問過這些問題很多次，我相信政府也花了很多年時間研究，但為甚麼政府不能說出來？
Since we have asked these questions repeatedly I believe the Government has spent a good number of years studying the arrangement . But why cant the Government reveal all these to us?
今屆政府說要與民共議，特首林鄭月娥也表示會推動檔案法。
The current Government says it wants to engage the people in public discussions . Chief Executive Carrie LAM has also pledged to take forward the enactment of an archives law
其實，檔案法的原意或原則，是要確保政府透明、負責任、和接受問責。
Actually the intent or the principle of an archives law is to ensure a transparent responsible and accountable government
政府現時有這樣的信念或信息傳遞給香港人，那為甚麼政府不願意進行公眾諮詢呢？
Since the Government wants to convey to this message to Hong Kong people now why does it remain reluctant to conduct a public consultation then?
各位議員，我要提醒大家，本會現正就毛孟靜議員提出的辯論中止待續議案進行辯論，至今已有17位議員發言。
I would like to remind Members that this Council is now debating the adjournment motion raised by Ms Claudia MO . Seventeen Members have spoken so far
主席，我發言反對毛孟靜議員提出中止待續的議案。
President I rise to speak against the adjournment motion moved by Ms Claudia MO
剛才毛孟靜議員提出議案時表示，有很多問題未解決，高鐵問題和"一地兩檢"的問題需要先弄清楚才能在立法會審議，所以她提出中止待續的議案。
When proposing this adjournment motion Ms Claudia MO said that many problems were still unresolved and the problems with the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link XRL must be sorted out before any discussion in the Legislative Council so she wanted to put forward this adjournment motion
我十分留心聆聽她的發言，但越聽越失望，因為她說的所謂重大問題，並不是甚麼驚天動地的問題。
I listened very carefully to her speech but the more I listened to it the more disappointed I became . The so - called major problems in her words are actually no big deal at all
說穿了，只有一個問題，便是毛孟靜議員對中央、對國家的不信任。
To put it plainly there is only one problem Ms Claudia MOs distrust of the Central Authorities and the country
剛才郭家麒議員說"一地兩檢"不可行，但他所說的根本不是"一地兩檢"，而是功能界別和中國威脅論。
Just now Dr KWOK Ka - ki dismissed the co - location arrangement as impracticable . But what he talked about was simply not the co - location arrangement but just the ills of functional constituencies and the China Threat Theory
一大堆陳腔濫調說自己如何支持這項議案。
With a litany of platitude he described how strongly he supported this motion
主席，黃碧雲議員更可笑，她說了一堆話，說自己支持"一地兩檢"中止待續的議案，但當主席裁決她剛才引述的話不需要是事實時，黃碧雲議員便讚主席英明神武。
President Dr Helena WONG was even more ridiculous . She talked on and on saying that she supported this motion of adjourning the debate on the co - location arrangement . But then when the President ruled that what she said of other Members did not need to be true she praised him for his wise and decisive judgment
我真不知道黃碧雲議員在會議廳內說的話究竟孰真孰假。
I frankly do not know which parts of Dr Helena WONGs remarks in this Chamber are true and which parts not true