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其實，2014年香港測量師學會曾建議政府成立樓宇維修監管局，他們清楚指出，這個監管局作為一個公營機構，有辦法令很多香港人極之沒有信心、最擔心的維修項目重返正軌。
Actually in 2014 the Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors proposed to the Government that a building maintenance monitoring authority be set up . They pointed out clearly that the monitoring authority as a public organization would identify ways to bring these maintenance projects which many people of Hong Kong are worrying about and in which they have lost confidence back onto the right track
主席，首先，我以三重身份就今次的議案發言。
President first of all I am speaking on todays motion in three capacities
總結3方面的經驗，我看到核心問題其實在於：一方面，政府強制大廈進行維修，業主全無選擇；但另一方面，政府對違法、違規的圍標行為坐視不理，甚至故意縱容。
Combining my experiences in these three aspects I see the crux of the problem and that is on the one hand the Government mandates building maintenance while owners have no choice at all; and on the other the Government has turned a blind eye to or even deliberately connived at illegal bid - rigging activities
一方面，政府施壓迫業主要進行維修；而另一方面，政府卻不規管違法行為或提供協助，甚至鼓勵不法團體從事圍標行為，令業主變成苦主。
On the one hand the Government pressurizes owners into carrying out maintenance and on the other it does not regulate illegal activities nor provide any assistance and even encourage unlawful groups to engage in bid - rigging turning owners into victims
其中最嚴重的漏洞其實多位同事已指出莫過於現時《建築物管理條例》下的授權書造假的問題。
One of the most serious loopholes as many Honourable colleagues have already pointed out is the falsification of proxy forms under the existing Building Management Ordinance BMO
事實上，上月在立法會公聽會上，與會者清晰而有力地一致向政府代表表達現時授權書制度千瘡百孔及"無皇管"的問題。
In fact in the public hearing of the Legislative Council held last month the attendees clearly and unanimously presented to the government representatives the myriads of problems surrounding the existing proxy form system and its lack of regulation
《條例》容許授權書制度，但又完全逃避監管的責任。
The Ordinance permits the proxy form system but totally evades the regulatory responsibility
政府放手不管，既沒有協助做好驗證授權書的工作，也不會協助業主跟進任何有關授權書的疑問或問題。
The Government has refused involvement in the matter it has not done a proper job of verifying the proxy instruments and also would not assist owners in the follow - up of questions or problems relating to the proxy forms
即使有人證物證證明有人使用假的授權書，政府也不會介入；即使報警，也只會石沉大海，不了了之。
Even there are witnesses and evidence to prove the use of falsified proxy forms the Government will not intervene . Even if a report is made to the Police it will be left unsettled like a stone dropped into the sea
所以，多宗有關假授權 書的事件已令不法團體洞悉現時的法律漏洞，並利用這個漏洞，以假授權書騙取大廈業主的款項或投得維修工程。
As a result a number of cases involving falsified proxy forms have already helped unlawful groups identify the loopholes of the existing legislation which they in turn exploit to defraud building owners of money or win the tender for maintenance works by deception
可是，小業主又莫奈何，不能做任何事，投訴無門。
However minority owners feel they cannot do anything and their complaints will not be accepted
政府不會處理，只會說這是業主與業主之間的糾紛，可自行解決。
The Government will not handle the complaints only saying they are disputes among owners which can be resolved on their own
在很多個案中，業主最簡單的要求只是想查證授權書的真偽，不獲准查看時，便要求交由一個獨立的專業人士代為驗證授權書。
In many cases the simplest request made by owners was to verify the authenticity of the proxy forms . When the request was not granted they then requested to pass the forms to an independent professional who could verify the authenticity for them
但這個要求都不獲批准，而政府亦沒有提供任何支援，問題於是便變成一個大黑洞。
But even such a request was not granted and the Government does not provide any assistance thus aggravating the problem into an enormous black hole
當所有業主大會均出現假的授權書時，不法團體便可為所欲為。
When falsified proxy instruments appear in all owners committees unlawful groups can do whatever they want
即使有一些很敢言的業主站出來牽頭質疑有關授權書，結果往往是由於不法團體被黑勢力滲透，這些牽頭質疑授權書的業主均會經常受恐嚇，令事情最終無法查個水落石出。
Even if some very outspoken owners are willing to come forward and take the lead to question the proxy forms the usual outcome is given the infiltration of triad forces into these unlawful groups owners who have taken the lead to question the proxy forms would often be subjected to intimidation eventually making it impossible to find out the truth
所以，過去多年出現的圍標問題，已令市民對業主立案法團、物業管理公司、顧問以至承建商整個系統完全失去信心，人心惶惶，連業主與業主之間也失去互信，政府卻又施壓一定要他們進行維修。
As a result bid - rigging in the last few years has caused people to completely lose faith in the entire system which comprises owners corporations property management companies consultants and contractors . People become anxious and even the trust among owners is gone . Yet the Government pressurizes them into carrying out maintenance
在一個已完全失去互信、整體崩潰的系統下，解決問題的出路便只有靠提高公信力才能令市民重拾信心。
Under a totally collapsed system with complete loss of mutual trust the only solution to the problem is enhancing credibility in order that peoples confidence can be restored
因此，我們建議政府主動介入，負起直接的責任，擔任公證人角色，包括負責驗證授權書、主持招標，以及協助召開居民大會。
Therefore we call on the Government to intervene and bear direct responsibility by assuming the role of a notary including taking charge of the verification of proxy forms presiding over tender exercises as well as providing assistance in convening residents meetings
政府必須以公證人的身份介入，才能讓小業主感覺獲得可信機構的協助。
The Government must intervene as a notary to reassure minority owners that they are assisted by a reliable organization
最後，我想指出，過去我一直提議，在區議會下成立一些專業團隊協助大廈維修。
The last point I wish to make is that I have been proposing the establishment of some professional teams under the District Councils to provide assistance in building maintenance
透過由公職人員組成的專業團隊，在社區協助大廈業主做好維修工作，政府便能令公眾重拾信心，並為物業管理及大廈維修做好把關工作。
Through professional teams of public officers who render assistance to owners in the community in the conduct of maintenance works the Government can command public confidence afresh and properly keep the gate for property management and building maintenance
主席，在我就這項議案發言前，我想回應一下張建宗司長昨天的發言，當中提及特區政府做了很多功績。
President before I speak on the motion I would like to respond to the speech made by Chief Secretary Matthew CHEUNG yesterday in which he highlighted a number of achievements made by the SAR Government
事實上，過往數年， 特區政府在不同方面做了很多工作，尤其是在民生和社會福利方面做得不錯。
As a matter of fact much work has been done by the SAR Government in various aspects over the past few years and in particular good results have been achieved in improving peoples livelihood and social welfare services
大家肯定已知道"辣招"無效，但政府卻繼續"加辣"，這是令樓價升得更厲害的原因之一。
By now everybody must surely know that the curb measures are ineffective yet the Government just continues to increase their intensity which is exactly one of the factors that further fuels the property market
不好意思，主席，我現在返回正題。
Pardon me President . I will now return to the subject of the motion
除了與黨友討論這項議題外，最近兩天，我也曾與不同社會人士討論這項議題，詢問不同市民的意見。
Apart from discussing the subject matter with Members of my party I have also discussed with different people in society and sought the views of different members of the public in the past two day
事實上，特首絕對有權表達意見，他可以循正常渠道這樣做。
In fact the Chief Executive has every right to express his views so long as he does so through normal channels
舉例而言，他可以逢星期二在行政會議開會前或開會後發表意見；他可以書面發表意見；他可以聘用專業律師代他發言或發表意見；他甚至可以找我們任何一位議員傾談，這沒有問題。
For instance he can express his views before or after the Executive Council meeting each Tuesday . He can also submit his views in writing or engage a professional lawyer to speak or express views on his behalf . He can even talk to any Member of the Legislative Council
全世界有很多事情都是"靜雞雞"地進行的。
In this world many things are conducted in a clandestine manner
如果處理的是私人文書，便不應使用公家電腦。
For instance he should not use a computer in his office to process a private document
我認為當事人應盡快平息這件事，不要再"死頂"，錯了便承認，不要給泛民這麼多"子彈"射擊自己。
In my view the parties concerned should let the matter die down as soon as possible rather than adamantly refusing to admit their mistakes . As what they have done is wrong they might as well admit it so that they will no longer be providing ammunition to the pan - democrats
他們為泛民提供了很多"子彈"做一場"大龍鳳"，在這裏罵足兩天。
They have been providing so much ammunition to the pan - democrats that they are able to stage this show these two days with their endless criticisms
事實上，這件事已影響行政機關與立法會之間的關係。
As a matter of fact this incident has already impacted the relationship between the executive and the legislature
第一個目的是令社會關注，在這兩天盡情責罵兩位當事人；基本上這目的已經達到。
For one thing they want to arouse attention in society and hence they have been criticizing the two persons concerned in this matter endlessly over the past two days . Basically they have achieved this objective
第二個目的是迫使特首下台。
For another they want to force the Chief Executive to step down
最後，我希望張建宗司長......據聞他會在下屆特區政府留任。
Finally I hope Chief Secretary Matthew CHEUNG Rumour has it that he would stay on and work for the next - term Government
我覺得辯論"毋忘六四"的議案是立法會其中一個傳統，自由黨會一如既往就議案發言和投票，重申我們的立場。
I think our motion debates on Not forgetting the 4 June incident have become an important tradition of the Legislative Council . As in the past Members of the Liberal Party will reaffirm our position through speaking and voting on the motion
我相信很多中國人和香港人也認同六四是一場悲劇。
I think many Chinese and Hong Kong people share the view that the 4 June incident is a tragedy
我當年20多歲，親眼看着事件發生，在50萬人遊行隊伍之中，我亦是其中一分子，所以感覺到現時仍歷歷在目。
At that time I was a young man in my twenties and I witnessed the incident . I was also one of the 500 000 people who took to the streets . So even to this day I still have a vivid memory of those events
我相信所有中國人都不希望類似事件再發生。
I think no Chinese people would like to see the recurrence of similar incidents
我們看看中國現時的經濟發展。
Let us take a look at Chinas current economic development
在10年前，中國的GDP只不過是約22萬億元，但在10年後，中國的GDP竟增長了3.4倍，達74萬億元。
Ten years ago Chinas GDP was only about 22 trillion . But 10 years later Chinas GDP has increased by a staggering 3.4 times amounting to 74 trillion
這將會改善國家人民的生活，帶動經濟發展，甚至對世界帶來各種影響，所以，國家向前發展是有必要的，亦要大家認同和支持。
Such progress will not only help improve peoples livelihood and drive further economic development but it will also create impact on the world in various ways . That is why we all agree and support that China should move forward and achieve further development
我希望大家也看到，中國現時除了改革經濟之外，亦看出自己有其他問題，有待逐一解決。
I hope we can all see that China is also aware of problems in other areas apart from reform and opening - up and that these problems would have to be resolved one by one
所以，我們應該要給國家更多時間，除了穩定政治和經濟外，更要給國家更多時間在民主進程上進行改革。
Hence we should give the country more time to stabilize the political and economic situation and more time to introduce democratic reform
我希望可以藉香港發生的民主進程，成為一個好例子，引領中國未來的民主進程一步一步發展。
I also hope that through our democratic process Hong Kong can set a good example and lead Chinas gradual democratic process in the future
所以，對於六四事件的對與錯，我們認為應留待歷史作出客觀和持平的結論。
Therefore let us leave the right and wrong of the 4 June incident to history . We hold that history will give us an objective and impartial conclusion eventually
自由黨會一如既往，一如過去20多次的議案辯論，繼續投棄權票。
As in the past 20 - odd motion debates on the subject the Liberal Party will continue to cast an abstention vote on the motion
代理主席，我想告訴黃國健議員，他說得非常有道理。
Deputy President I want to tell Mr WONG Kwok - kin that what he said makes perfect sense
代理主席，大家也看到，這次根本是一場"大龍鳳"，可以說是反對派加上"無間道"的交響樂大合奏。
Deputy President as we can see this is merely a spectacular show a symphony played by the opposition camp and the double agents
在事件曝光後，反對派立即在傳媒前咬牙切齒地大聲譴責，而另一批人則儼如天使般，正義凜然地說要向廉政公署舉報，還有一批人來到立法會譴責特首梁振英及周浩鼎議員。
After the matter came to light the opposition camp immediately condemned such act angrily in front of the media . Another group of people appeared as angels and vowed righteously to report to the Independent Commission Against Corruption ICAC while one other group of people condemned Chief Executive LEUNG Chun - ying and Mr Holden CHOW in this Council
我真的有理由懷疑這兩天的辯論，立法會是否在進行一項未經正式申報的辯論比賽，其中的優勝者將可贏得一大筆獎金或獎品？
I have genuine reasons to suspect that the Legislative Council is having some kind of unofficial debate contest these two days whereby the winner will receive a huge sum of money or prizes
大家也知道，自梁特首上任5年以來，反對派已先後在立法會提出8次議案，並一共花了超過100小時進行討論，而所用的理由包括譴責、不信任或彈劾等，要求他下台或辭職。
As we all know the opposition camp has already moved eight such motions since Chief Executive LEUNG Chun - ying assumed office five years ago and so far the Legislative Council has spent more than 100 hours to discuss such motions . The reasons of moving these motions include to censure to express no confidence or to impeach in the hope of urging him to step down or resign
例如，特首上任不久已因家中花園的花棚問題，被反對派在2012年12月12日要求對其投不信任票。
For example soon after the Chief Executive took office the opposition camp moved a motion of no confidence on 12 December 2012 because of a trellis erected in the garden of his house
在2012年12月19日，李卓人又動議調查有關花棚的問題。
On 19 December 2012 LEE Cheuk - yan moved another motion seeking to inquire into matters relating to the trellis
其後，梁國雄議員在2013年1月9日再就花棚問題彈劾梁振英。
Subsequently on 9 January 2013 LEUNG Kwok - hung proposed to impeach LEUNG Chun - ying for his trellis
究竟反對派與特首有些甚麼深仇大恨？
Why is there such deep animosity between the opposition camp and the Chief Executive?
大家是否記得，在上星期的內務委員會會議上，曾有議員懷疑他離開廉署的原因，於是他很生氣地說，廉署是他非常尊重的機構。
As Members may recall when a Member cast doubt on LAMs departure from ICAC at the House Committee meeting held last week he was furious and responded that ICAC was a very respectable institution to him
既然他這麼尊重廉署，便要相信廉署的決定，對嗎？
Given that he respects ICAC so much he must have faith in its decisions am I right?
代理主席，如果有證據的話，我相信毛議員早已把證據交給澳洲國會議員。
Deputy President if there is evidence I think Ms MO should have handed it to Members of the Australian Parliament back then
現已過了兩年多，他們交過些甚麼？
Now that more than two years have passed have they submitted anything?
只要你沒有收取黑金便沒有問題，對嗎？
You will be fine so long as you have not accepted any black money right?
剛才鍾國斌議員提到，這兩天浪費了很多時間卻毫無結果......
Just now Mr CHUNG Kwok - pan mentioned that in these two days a lot of time has been wasted but to no avail
還有3星期，新一屆政府便會上任，而到了7月中，會期亦告完結......
Three weeks later the new - term Government will take office and by mid - July this session will also come to an end
代理主席，我們希望大家保留精力，集中多做些有益民生的事......
Deputy President we hope that Members will save their energy and focus more on work that is beneficial to peoples livelihood
代理主席，我支持"打擊圍標，捍衞業主權益"的原議案和所有修正案。
Deputy President I support the original motion on Combating bid - rigging to defend the rights and interest of property owners and all the amendments
代理主席，根據市區重建局在2015年進行的"樓宇狀況推算調查"，全港約有21,000幢樓齡達30年或以上的樓宇，到2046年，更會增加約4萬幢。
Deputy President according to the building condition survey conducted by the Urban Renewal Authority URA in 2015 there were around 21 000 buildings aged 30 years or above in the territory and by 2046 the number will increase to 40 000
為維持這批樓宇的狀況，按照現行"30年或以上的樓宇每10年進行一次復修"的規定，由現在到2046年，平均每年有超過3,000幢樓宇需要進行復修工程。
To maintain the condition of these buildings owners of buildings aged 30 or above have to comply with the requirement of conducting inspections of their buildings once every 10 years . Hence between now and 2046 there will be over 3 000 buildings requiring rehabilitation works every year on average
代理主席，隨着本港樓宇老化及政府推出上述多項措施及計劃，本港大廈維修市場日漸蓬勃。
Deputy President as the age of buildings in Hong Kong increases and with the many aforesaid measures and schemes introduced by the Government the market of building maintenance services is thriving in Hong Kong
由於舊樓的大廈維修工程每年均涉及一個非常大、近乎天文數字的款額，招致一些不法集團入侵，以圍標手段奪取工程，正如同事剛才所說，令整個維修市場猶如是一塊很大的"肥豬肉"。
Since the building maintenance works of old buildings entails a colossal or even astronomical amount of money every year it has attracted some unlawful syndicates to enter the trade in order to seize the works projects through bid - rigging . As Honourable colleagues mentioned earlier the maintenance services market has now been turned into a cash cow
當下圍標集團猖獗，直接操縱整個投標結果，嚴重影響招標過程的公平及公正性。
Bid - rigging syndicates are running rampant now . They can manipulate the results of tendering exercises directly seriously undermining the fairness and impartiality of tendering procedures
有時候，即使業主向廉政公署舉報，往往因為證據不足而難以入罪。
Sometimes though property owners have made report to the Independent Commission Against Corruption ICAC those syndicates will seldom be convicted in the lack of evidence
"天價工程"不僅大大損害小業主的權益，更影響了法團的正常運作。
These works projects at astronomical costs have severely jeopardized the interests of small property owners and affected the normal operation of owners corporations OCs
代理主席，"說多無謂，行動最實際"，為了解決圍標問題，我認為我們要積極向政府提出意見，所以民建聯已多次向政府提出一些建議和要求，而局方亦曾就一些建議確實開展廣泛諮詢。
Deputy President action speaks louder than words . To deal with the bid - rigging problem I think we have to be proactive in making suggestions to the Government . Hence the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB has raised some proposals and requests with the Government a number of times and the Bureau has conducted extensive consultation exercises on certain proposals
今年3月1日，民政事務局終於進一步對《建築物管理條例》提出修訂，以打擊圍標問題。
On 1 March this year the Home Affairs Bureau eventually took a step forward to propose amendments to the Building Management Ordinance BMO to combat bid - rigging
對此，我們非常歡迎。
We welcome this move
新的修訂不僅加強對小業主的保障，更提高大廈管理的透明度。
The new amendments will not only strengthen the protection for small property owners but also enhance the transparency of building management
就當中一項建議，即"將通過決議的法定人數提高至兩成，及規定其中一成的法定人數須由業主親自出席"，我們認為可以提高業主對大廈維修的關注，並可鼓勵業主參與決議討論，從而減少一些不必要的爭拗，並增加最終決議的認受性。
As for one of the proposals on raising the quorum of meeting for passing resolutions to 20 % and specifying that at least 10 % of property owners have to attend the meeting in person we think it will raise owners concern about building maintenance and encourage owners to participate in the discussion on resolutions thus minimizing disputes and increasing the credibility of the final decision
可是，在諮詢過程中，我們聽到不少業主反映，指出提高法定人數可能導致出席人數不足而流會的問題，我認為局方同樣要關注這點。
However during the consultation we heard many owners express the worry that raising the quorum might result in aborted meetings due to a lack of quorum . I think the Bureau has to pay attention to this point
不過，很多小業主和法團朋友表示，現在有心人透過收集大量授權書來操縱招標結果的情況經常出現，而有心人更透過現時授權書核實程序的灰色地帶，得以成功搶灘。
However according to many small property owners and members of OCs some people with ulterior motives will deliberately gather proxy forms to manipulate results of tendering exercises and the situation is quite common at present . These people with ulterior motives have taken advantage of the grey area in the validation procedures for proxy forms and managed to further their purposes successfully
主席，我希望提醒政府當局，引入新修訂是好事，但最重要的是，如何透過引入修訂來加強監管，杜絕有心人握着大量授權書影響賽果的情況。
President I would like to remind the Administration that it is good to introduce new amendments yet the key is how to step up supervision by means of the amendments so as to prevent people with ulterior motives to get hold of a large number of proxy forms to affect the results of the tendering exercises
主席，我們知道大廈管理存在很多問題，現行並沒有一個專責部門負責指導及監督。
President we know that there are many problems in building management yet we do not have a dedicated department responsible for effecting guidance and supervision now
民建聯促請政府積極考慮成立"大廈維修管理局"，而管理局應邀請不同界別人士、不同部門參加，包括專業人士、屋宇署、市建局、廉署等部門，就樓宇維修向居民、法團、小業主提供一些意見，杜絕圍標。
The DAB thus urges the Government to actively consider the establishment of a Building Maintenance Authority BMA . BMA should invite people from different sectors and departments including professionals the Buildings Department URA and ICAC to offer views on building maintenance to residents OCs and small property owners and wipe out bid - rigging
尤其是在維修項目報告擬定後，管理局可以幫助核實這些顧問報告的真確性和可信性，協助法團和小業主處理維修問題。
Particularly when the report on maintenance items is drafted BMA may help verify the authenticity and reliability of those consultancy reports thereby assisting OCs and small property owners in handling maintenance issues
其實，市建局現正推行的"招標妥"計劃，已臨時擔任了這個管理局的職責，這計劃在地區上十分受歡迎。
In fact URA which is now implementing the Smart Tender scheme is performing the functions of BMA temporarily . The scheme is well received at the district level
當我落區解釋"招標妥"計劃時，很多小業主都認為是好東西，我們希望"招標妥"能繼續協助大廈業主，利用不同的專業知識處理這些問題，亦透過一個更公平、更公開的招標程序，讓這些維修問題得以解決。
When I visit various districts to explain the Smart Tender scheme many small property owners consider the scheme desirable . Hence we hope that the Smart Tender scheme will continue to offer assistance to property owners handle these issues with professional knowledge and use fairer and more open tendering procedures to resolve these maintenance problems
十分遺憾的是，政府現在才表示再撥3億元，資助業主參加"招標妥"計劃，我認為是遲了。
It is most regrettable that the Government indicated only recently the allocation of another 300 million to subsidizing property owners in joining the Smart Tender scheme and I think it is overdue
不過，我經常強調，"遲到好過無到"，希望藉此能吸引更多業主參與這計劃，從中受惠。
Yet as I often stress late is better than never . I hope this initiative will attract more property owners to participate in and benefit from the scheme
根據我們的評估，在新的優惠計劃下，約有3,000個法團或業主組織或4,500幢樓宇受惠。
According to our assessment around 3 000 OCs or owners organization or 4 500 buildings will benefit under the new concession scheme . President we come across maintenance problems in the districts quite often
主席，我們在地區經常面對一些維修問題，我早前剛處理了觀塘安基苑的情況，同樣是因維修問題令小業主群起反對，提出質疑，我認為政府真的要在這些事上幫一把。
Some time ago I handled a case involving On Kay Court in Kwun Tong . It was also about maintenance where small property owners came together to oppose the works projects and raised queries . I think the Government really has to offer assistance in connection with these issues
現時，政府會派一些民政事務處的職員落區協助處理，但我認為局方在這方面有需要加強力度，一定要設法做好"專職專責"的工作，讓職員向市民提供專業意見。
Under the current practice the Government will appoint certain officials from District Offices to render assistance in these cases . Yet I think the Bureau has to step up its effort in this aspect . It must identify ways to properly implement the arrangement of designated officials for designated professions so that officials may offer professional advice to the public
其次，在執法層面上，當局應該確保執法機構有足夠資源作出研究和調查，以取締圍標等嚴重反競爭行為，加強刑事制裁制度，以增加罰則，產生阻嚇作用。
Then for law enforcement the authorities should ensure that law enforcement agencies are provided with adequate resources for conducting studies and surveys with a view to wiping out serious anti - competitive conduct like bid - rigging . It should also reinforce the regime of criminal sanctions by increasing the penalty to achieve deterrence
主席，最後，公眾教育是重要且必須的，充足的宣傳不僅可以令業主提高警覺，更可讓業主知道如何保障自己的權益。
Lastly President public education is important and essential . Adequate promotion will not only raise the awareness of property owners but also enable them to understand how best to safeguard their own interests
我們希望透過這項議案辯論，讓政府當局知道這些問題不能再拖延，必須加快處理，讓大家可以避免面對圍標的問題。
We hope that through this motion debate the Administration will realize that it can brook no delay in handling these issues and it must address the problems expeditiously so that the public may be spared problems arising from bid - rigging
主席，我支持議案，謹此陳辭。
With these remarks President I support the motion
代理主席，28年了，當我們今天說六四這個日子時，我們仍會感到莫大的傷痛。
Deputy President it has been 28 years . Today when we talk about this day of 4 June we are still overwhelmed by unspeakable sadness and grief
我相信在座的多位議員同事和社會上很多市民，當大家一談起六四，一想到28年前，很多很多畫面都會重新浮現，而這些畫面所帶來的是曾經一度很大的希望，但後來是希望的幻滅，而且心裏隱隱作痛。
To many Members in this Chamber and many members of the community I believe when they talk about the 4 June incident or when their memory flashes back to 28 years ago many many scenes will once again spring to their mind . These scenes once brought forth a great hope but then it was dashed leaving a wound in us that still hurts even now
二十八年後，我們再說這個日子時，除了傷痛之外，我們作為香港人，亦感覺到一份很特別的光榮。
Twenty - eight years have passed . When we talk about this day again apart from the pain we being Hongkongers also feel particularly honoured
在全世界的華人社區中，有哪個地方可以好像香港般自由地悼念六四，而且仍有如此龐大的集結呢？
Among all the Chinese communities worldwide where else is like Hong Kong where a commemoration of the 4 June incident can be held freely and assemblies of such a large scale can still be found?
這代表了對真理的堅持，我們有自由的表達，我們仍有一份關心，一份刻骨銘心的關心。
This demonstrates the perseverance in upholding the truth and our freedom of expression and we are still attached to it an attachment growing out of what is so deeply engraved in our mind
很多年青人可能不明白，為何這群曾經經歷六四的人有如此長的思念。
Many youngsters may not understand why this group of people who experienced the 4 June incident have been emotionally attached to it for so long