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其實，這本書名為《基本法》，上述是《基本法》的序言，《基本法》的序言用了"收回香港"一詞。
Indeed this book is the Basic Law and the paragraph that I just quoted is the preamble of the Basic Law
他有否違反《基本法》？
Has he violated the Basic Law?
他現在卻出任政府的問責官員。
Yet he is now one of the accountability officials of the Government
他曾出席的多個論壇，是否應該全部被取締？
Should all the forums that he attended in the past be banned?
再說，林鄭月娥曾在特首選舉論壇上表示，她認同《基本法》各項條文，唯獨不同意第一百零七條。《基本法》第一百零七條訂明："香港特別行政區的財政預算以量入為出為原則"。
As for Carrie LAM she once opined in the Chief Executive election forum that she agreed with all provisions in the Basic Law except Article 107 which provides that [t]he Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall follow the principle of keeping expenditure within the limits of revenues in drawing up its budget
她表示不同意"量入為出"一詞。
She remarked that she did not agree with the phrase keeping expenditure within the limits of revenues
政府一方面表示，只要發表違反《基本法》的言論便有問題，當中包括今天討論涵蓋的"港獨"議題。
On the one hand the Government says that any remarks in contradiction to the Basic Law will not be allowed including speaking on Hong Kong independence a subject of our discussion today; on the other hand the Government says that any views contravening the Constitution of the Peoples Republic of China will not be allowed either
目前《基本法》好像電話簿般越加越厚。
Nowadays the Basic Law is as thick as a telephone directory
然而，香港實行《基本法》，《基本法》訂明中國不會控制香港的言論自由。
However the Basic Law which is the law for Hong Kong provides that China will not control freedom of speech in Hong Kong
因此，公民黨支持這項議案，要求政府出示所有與馬凱事件相關的文件，以及作證和提供證據，讓公眾和國際社會清楚了解馬凱工作簽證為何被拒，還所有人知情權。
Therefore the Civic Party supports this motion in order to request the Government to produce all relevant documents and to testify or give evidence in relation to the Mallet incident for members of the public and the international community to know exactly why Victor MALLET was not granted a work visa . This is an act to honour the peoples right to know
其實沙中線事件可能是香港交通運輸基建發展史上最大的醜聞。
In fact the incident involving SCL is perhaps the biggest scandal ever in the history of transport infrastructure development in Hong Kong
問題的規模有多大呢？
How large is the scale of the problem?
我相信無須我多說。
I believe I need not talk too much about this
其實這件事反映政府在沙中線工程上監管不力，置市民安危於不顧。
In fact this incident reflects the inadequate supervision of the Government on the works of SCL and public safety is completely disregarded
不單有剪短鋼筋的問題，還有現時討論的沉降問題，即使不乘搭港鐵，也可能受到影響。
Not only are there problems involving steel reinforcement bars having been cut short there is also the problem of settlement now under discussion . Even if one does not take the Mass Transit Railway MTR one may still be affected
就以這項議案建議調查的沙中線沉降問題為例，這正好反映政府未有痛定思痛，態度依然是得過且過，繼續企圖用花言巧語來粉飾太平。
Take this motion proposing an inquiry into the problem of settlement involving SCL as an example it precisely shows that the Government has not learnt any lesson from the bitter experience and still adopts the attitude of muddling through trying to resort to slick talk to gloss over the problems
沙中線工程的沉降問題嚴重。
The problem of settlement related to the SCL Project is serious
根據香港鐵路有限公司在8月30日向立法會提交的文件，沙中線全線有逾131個沉降監測點超出標準，在10個車站當中有8個出現沉降問題，當中以土瓜灣站和會展站的情況最為嚴重，分別有36個及49個沉降監測點超出標準，最嚴重的沉降點分別是61毫米和75毫米。
According to the paper submitted by the MTR Corporation Limited MTRCL to the Legislative Council on 30 August over 131 settlement monitoring points along SCL have recorded settlement readings exceeding their trigger levels and among the 10 stations 8 of them have problems related to settlement . Among them the situation at the To Kwa Wan Station and the Exhibition Centre Station is the most serious and 36 and 49 settlement monitoring points there respectively have recorded readings that exceed their trigger levels and the most serious settlement readings were 61 mm and 75 mm respectively
其實75毫米差不多有手掌那麼長，這絕非一個很短的距離，而是遠遠超出之前所預先設定的20毫米上限。
In fact 75 mm is about the length of a palm and it is by no means short; rather it has far exceeded the original set threshold of 20 mm
工程造成沉降會連帶影響附近樓宇、道路，甚至煤氣管道，令其結構受損；樓宇的牆身也可能因受損而出現滲漏。
Settlement induced by construction works can affect nearby buildings roads and even gas pipes and cause structural damage to them . Water seepage on the walls of buildings may also occur as a result of such damage
根據一份於2017年為港鐵公司撰寫的顧問報告，其實可以看到沙中線土瓜灣站附近出現大規模沉降，影響範圍十分廣，超過23幢周邊樓宇的沉降超出容許上限，情況最嚴重的寶馬大廈錄得最高62.9毫米的沉降，超出上限三成四，該大廈的基座更是一個蜆殼公司的油站。
According to a consultancy report prepared for MTRCL in 2017 it can actually be seen that large - scale settlement had occurred in the vicinity of To Kwa Wan Station of SCL and the affected area is very extensive . More than 23 surrounding buildings had experienced settlement exceeding the permitted threshold and in the most serious case the highest settlement reading of 62.9 mm was recorded at BMW House 34 % in excess of the threshold and the base of this building is a filling station of the Shell Hong Kong Limited
土瓜灣市政大廈亦錄得51毫米的沉降，超出上限五成。
A settlement of 51 mm was also recorded at the To Kwa Wan Municipal Services Building exceeding the threshold by 50 %
至於地面及地下喉管的監測點，則有17個錄得超標；寶馬大廈旁邊的地下煤氣管道，錄得最高54.2毫米沉降，超出上限1.2倍。
As regards the monitoring points for ground surface and underground pipes 17 recorded readings exceeding the trigger level . The underground gas pipes next to BMW House recorded the highest settlement of 54.2 mm or 2.2 times above the threshold
香港中華煤氣有限公司證實有4條喉管的沉降超出上限，一處接駁位更出現滲漏，須更換或關閉。
The Hong Kong and China Gas Company Limited confirmed that the settlement of four pipes had exceeded the threshold and leaks even occurred at one connection point and replacement or service suspension was necessary
整個機制的懲罰制度可如何改善，令承建商今後不會再進行這些危害人命安全的工程？
How can the penalty system under the whole mechanism be improved so that contractors will no longer carry out these life - endangering works?
當時，亦有區議員向港鐵公司查詢監察資料，但港鐵公司卻以私隱為藉口，拒絕公開資料。
At that time a District Council DC member also made enquiries with MTRCL about the information on monitoring but the latter refused to disclose the information on grounds of privacy
政府選擇不正視問題和認真檢討，更荒謬的是，政府居然還更改了沉降標準，從而換取所謂的施工效率。
The Government chose not to address the problem squarely by carrying out a review in earnest . Even more ridiculously the Government went so far as to revise the trigger levels in exchange for the so - called construction efficiency
這正正便是與我剛才提及會展站繼續進行挖掘工程一事當中，港鐵公司的說法同出一轍，就是指要有施工效率，所以要繼續挖掘，但這不是犧牲了市民和在地盤工作的工人的安全嗎？
This claim is exactly the same as that made by MTRCL in the incident of continued excavation works at the Exhibition Centre Station mentioned by me just now that is it was necessary to have construction efficiency so the excavation had to continue but was this not achieved at the expense of the safety of the public and workers on the construction site?
根據政府文件，鐵路結構的沉降預設上限一般為20毫米，而屋宇署的指引亦列明若超出上限便須停工，以免對建築物構成更大風險。
According to government papers the set threshold of settlement for railway structures is usually 20 mm and the guidelines of the Buildings Department also state that if the threshold is exceeded construction works must be suspended to avoid posing even greater dangers to structures
政府又是在星期五晚上11時才發出新聞稿，大幅調低121個監測點的沉降指標，當中，沉降標準最大幅度的更改達95毫米，是由20毫米更改為95毫米，遠遠偏離預設上限。
Again the Government issued the press release only at 11col00 pm on Friday to relax the trigger levels at 122 monitoring points substantially . Among them the greatest change of trigger level is to 95 mm that is from 20 mm to 95 mm so the deviation from the set threshold is very great
它放寬了標準，令本來嚴重超標的地方突然變為合格，政府聲稱沉降問題不再存在，工程亦可以復工。
It relaxed the levels thus making locations that were originally seriously non - compliant suddenly compliant again . The Government claimed that the problem of settlement no longer existed and the works could resume
這即是說，如果有一名學生考試，本來說清楚合格分數是50分，但這名學生在考試中只考獲20分，老師便說不要緊，我們現時把合格分數改為20分，所以他是合格的，可以升班了。
That is to say if a student takes an examination and it is originally stated clearly that the passing mark is 50 but the student only scores 20 in the examination the teacher then says It does not matter . We now change the passing mark to 20 so he has passed and can now go up one grade
這只會令我想到一件事，就是這名老師不可以成為我們心目中的為人師表，如果政府這樣做，更不是我們期望公僕會做出的行為。
This only makes me think of one thing that is this teacher has not set an example of how good teachers should be like for us to emulate . If the Government does this sort of thing it is not the kind of behaviour we expect of public servants
保皇黨曾先後4次否決引用《條例》調查有 關沙中線紅磡站和會展站等各車站的醜聞，同樣地，就今次根據《條例》提出的議案，保皇黨議員仍然冥頑不靈，繼續搬出各種藉口，託辭反對今天的議案。
On four occasions the pro - government camp has voted against invoking PP Ordinance to investigate the scandals involving such stations as the Hung Hom Station and the Exhibition Centre Station . Similarly on this motion proposed according to PP Ordinance the pro - government camp has remained obdurate and cited various excuses for opposing todays motion
建制派一方面不支持調查，另方面又把自己說得好像很關心這項問題般。
On the one hand the pro - establishment camp does not support any inquiry; on the other it portrayed itself as very concerned about this issue
我真的難以想象，就現時整條沙中線一直去到紅磡站的問題，如果有一天，當容祖兒在香港體育館演唱"痛愛"時，她唱到"喜歡你讓我下沉/喜歡你讓我哭/能持續獲得糟蹋亦滿足"，發覺一直唱的時候，紅磡站真的正在下沉，原來這並不是舞台設計，而是沉降啊，陳帆局長。
On the problems along the entire SCL all the way to the Hung Hom Station if one day when Joey YUNG is giving a performance and singing Painful Love in the Hong Kong Coliseum as she is singing Loving you for giving me this sinking feelingLoving you for making me cryContent if the trashing goes on she may find that in this course Hung Hom Station is really sinking and Secretary Frank CHAN she will find that this is not the effect of any stage design but the result of settlement
代理主席，我發言支持毛孟靜議員動議的議案。
Deputy President I speak in support of the motion moved by Ms Claudia MO
何君堯議員剛才批評毛孟靜議員濫用程序，但毛孟靜議員已清楚說明，她根據《基本法》第七十三條動議議案。
Dr Junius HO has just criticized that Ms Claudia MO has abused the procedures but she has made it clear that she moved the motion in accordance with Article 73 of the Basic Law
《基本法》第七十三條列明立法會的職權，該條第五項指立法會有權對政府的工作提出質詢。
Article 73 of the Basic Law sets out the powers of the Legislative Council and Article 735 specifies that the Legislative Council has the right to raise questions on the work of the Government
毛孟靜議員動議這項議案，旨在傳召保安局局長李家超先生及入境事務處處長曾國衞先生，詢問他們為何無故拒絕Mr Victor MALLET英國《金融時報》亞洲新聞編輯馬凱先生的工作簽證續期申請。
Ms Claudia MO moved this motion to summon the Secretary for Security Mr John LEE and the Director of Immigration Mr Erick TSANG to explain why the Government refused to renew for no reason the work visa of Mr Victor MALLET Asia news editor of the Financial Times
《基本法》賦權立法會議員對政府的工作提出質詢。
The Basic Law empowers Members to raise questions on the work of the Government
毛孟靜議員透過這項議案向李家超提出質詢，是合法和合憲的。
It is lawful and constitutional for Ms Claudia MO to put question to John LEE through this motion
《基本法》第七十三條第十項表明，在行使質詢政府的職權時，如有需要，立法會可傳召有關人士出席作證和提供證據。
Article 7310 of the Basic Law states that the Legislative Council can summon as required when exercising the powers to raise questions on the work of the Government persons concerned to testify or give evidence
馬凱先生以往申請工作簽證未曾出現問題。
Mr Victor MALLET has not encountered any problem when he applied for work visa in the past
傳召官員到立法會，是因為這件事情已引起本地和國際社會關注。
We summon officials to attend before the Legislative Council because this incident has aroused the concern of the local and international communities
各界對特區政府有否以政治手段打壓香港新聞自由和言論自由表示憂慮。
All sectors have expressed concerns about whether the SAR Government have suppressed freedom of the press and freedom of speech in Hong Kong through political means
我們只想清楚了解事件，並請政府出示相關文據、簿冊、紀錄和文件，以及作證和提供證據。
We only want to find out more about the incident . Hence we ask the Government to produce all relevant papers books records or documents and to testify or give evidence
這項議案其實是以《基本法》為基礎，亦得到立法會主席批准進行辯論。
This motion is actually based on the Basic Law and the debate is conducted with the approval of the President of the Legislative Council
我們當然也明白，建制派一直努力削弱本會議員的權力，特別是在質詢政府及以《立法會條例》調查政府方面，建制派 議員可曾支持立法會行使相關職權和職責？
Certainly we also understand that the pro - establishment camp has been trying hard to weaken the powers of Legislative Council Members . In particular in respect of questioning and investigating the Government by invoking the Legislative Council Ordinance have pro - establishment Members ever supported the Legislative Council to exercise its powers and perform its duties?
顧名思義，"保皇黨"必須保護政府，為政府擋駕、護航。
As their name implies the royalist party must safeguard and harbour the Government
其實他們根本不知道這是本會根本享有的權力。
In fact they do not know that this is the fundamental power of this Council
這項議案旨在給予政府機會清楚交代整件事。
This motion seeks to give the Government an opportunity to give a clear account of the whole incident
剛才有議員指政府有難言之隱，所以無須作出交代。
Some Members have just said that the Government has unspeakable reasons so it did not need to give an explanation
我作為立法會議員，也很想了解行政機關官員在執行職權時有何難言之隱。
As a Legislative Council Member I also want to know the unspeakable reasons of officials of the Executive Authorities when exercising their powers
李家超局長上京時是否受到訓斥，以致要整治陳浩天，以《社團條例》宣布其組織不合法？
Had Secretary John LEE been reprimanded when he visited Beijing so that he had to sanction Andy CHAN by declaring that his party was illegal under the Societies Ordinance ?
我相信議員和很多市民都想知道政府有何難言之隱。
I believe Members and many members of the public would like to learn about the unspeakable reasons of the Government
是否中聯辦指使他們這樣做？
Has the Liaison Office of the Central Peoples Government in the Hong Kong SAR LOCPG instructed them to do so?
我們絕對有必要了解，官員是否按照《基本法》、其個人良心和自由意志執行公務；抑或他們身不由己，很多事情由北京而非香港決定？
It is absolutely necessary for us to know whether officials have performed their official duties according to the Basic Law their conscience and free will or whether they have been constrained as many decisions are made by Beijing rather than Hong Kong
這些涉及"一國兩制"的問題，當局必須交代清楚。
The authorities must give a clear account of these issues involving one country two systems
剛才謝偉俊議員也承認他是該會會員，但他發言後期卻表示懷疑香港外國記者會是國際情報組織，在本港收集國際情報。
Mr Paul TSE admitted a while ago his FCC membership but in the latter part of his speech he suspected that FCC was an international intelligence agency collecting international intelligence in Hong Kong
單單主持一個演講會，便要被罰不能續領工作簽證，並被驅逐及永久不准返回香港，這件事真的聳人聽聞。
It is really appalling that hosting a forum is punishable by not having his work visa renewed and being expelled from Hong Kong permanently
我作為一名學者，經常出席公開會議，我也曾出任主持人無數次，亦曾邀請不同人士演講。
As an academic I often attend public meetings and have acted as a moderator for many times . I have also invited different people to deliver speeches
我作為通識教育的教授，當然要接觸不同觀點。
As a professor of general studies I certainly have to listen to different opinions
根本上，就香港現時面對的問題，"港獨"當然違反《基本法》。
About the problems that Hong Kong is facing Hong Kong independence definitely violates the Basic Law
《基本法》第一條清楚訂明："香港特別行政區是中華人民共和國不 可分離的部分。
Article 1 of the Basic Law clearly states that [t]he Hong Kong Special Administrative Region is an inalienable part of the Peoples Republic of China
"如推動"港獨"，當然違反《基本法》，但我相信大多數香港市民亦不支持"港獨"。
Of course promoting Hong Kong independence violates the Basic Law but I believe most Hong Kong people do not support Hong Kong independence
再者，從經濟角度而言，獨立對香港也沒有好處。
Moreover from an economic perspective independence is unfavourable to Hong Kong
國際媒體或外國政府對這件事件回應時表示，他們認為此事引起很多憂慮，香港政府的做法令人深感不安。
When the international media or foreign governments responded to this incident they voiced their concerns stating that the approach of the Hong Kong Government was deeply disturbing
大家必須謹記，香港最寶貴的是現時的"一國兩制"。"一國兩制"的精神，便是香港拒絕大陸化。
All of us must remember that one country two systems is the most precious asset of Hong Kong at the moment and the spirit of one country two systems is to reject Mainlandization
如果香港全面大陸化，"兩制"便會消失，對香港人和國家來說也肯定是災難。
If Hong Kong is fully Mainlandized two systems will disappear which is certainly a disaster for Hong Kong people and the country
何俊賢議員剛才說明，這不是馬凱的問題，他被拒續發簽證的原因，很明顯是與他早前以香港外國記者會署理主席或第一 副主席的身份主持一個公開論壇，邀請陳浩天講解香港民族黨有關香港獨立的立場。
Mr Steven HO has just stated that there is no problem with Victor MALLET . Evidently his application for visa renewal was rejected because earlier he chaired a public forum in his capacity as Acting President or First Vice President of the Foreign Correspondents Club Hong Kong FCC which invited Andy CHAN to speak on the Hong Kong National Partys position on Hong Kong independence
這個行為引致馬凱不獲特區政府續發工作簽證。
Because of what he did Victor MALLETs application for visa renewal was rejected by the SAR Government
很清楚，兩件事是直接關連的。
Obviously these two issues are directly related
不過，他們表示，記者有責任聆聽不同聲音，所以舉行這個研討會，讓陳浩天自由表達觀點。
They have clearly stated their position . However as they believe that journalists have the responsibility to listen to different views the forum was held so that Andy CHAN could freely express his views
我不知道馬凱或外國記者會觸犯了甚麼法例，也不知道陳浩天觸犯了甚麼法例。
I do not know which law Victor MALLET or FCC has violated and I do not know which law Andy CHAN has violated
如果說他的言論與《基本法》有抵觸，這的確是事實。
If you say that his remarks are inconsistent with the Basic Law this is indeed a fact
《基本法》第一條說明，香港是中國不可分離的一部分；他倡議"港獨"，當然抵觸《基本法》。
Article 1 of the Basic Law stipulates that Hong Kong is an inalienable part of China and advocating Hong Kong independence is definitely against the Basic Law
但是，抵觸《基本法》是否等於犯法呢？
Nevertheless is violating the Basic Law tantamount to violating the law?
很多人未必完全同意《基本法》，甚至特首"林鄭"也曾公開表示，她未必完全同意《基本法》第一百零七條。
Many people may not fully agree with the Basic Law and even Chief Executive Carrie LAM had publicly stated that she might not fully agree with Article 107 of the Basic Law
究竟"港獨"是否不容討論？
Is Hong Kong independence an issue that discussion is not permitted?
究竟是否不能容許任何人在公開場合或研討性質的場合討論"港獨"？
Is it that no one can discuss Hong Kong independence on a public occasion or at a seminar?
這點很重要，也是整個問題的核心。
This is a very important point and this is the core issue
我曾在大學任教，但我已經退休。
I taught at a university before my retirement
在歷史演化中，是否沒有國家曾經歷分裂或匯聚，或曾經歷獨立、被殖民，然後再獨立？
In the course of historical development is there a country which has not experienced division convergence independence colonization and independence again?
這種過程是否不能討論的呢？
Is it that this process cannot be discussed?
聯合國有相關公約，亦有過往的做法。
The United Nations has relevant conventions and past practices
在第二次世界大戰後，不少殖民地紛紛脫離宗主國，獨立運動也出現。
After the Second World War many colonies broke away from their sovereign states and launched independent movements
很多國家在聯合國監察下，進行自決及獨立的過程。
Many countries became independent and exercised self - determination under the supervision of the United Nations
這些歷史事實是否不能討論呢？
Is it that these historical facts cannot be discussed?
如果我們把這些歷史事實引申到香港的情況，我們是否不能作出討論？
If these historical incidents happen in Hong Kong can we not discuss them?
主席，這事件是否與言論自由、學術自由、新聞自由相關？
President is this incident related to freedom of speech academic freedom and freedom of the press?
這是21世紀的香港，我們自詡為亞洲國際都會、國際金融中心，現時亦要扮演國家"一帶一路"構想下，其中一個重要的樞紐地區。
This is Hong Kong in the 21 century and we boast that Hong Kong is Asias world city an international financial centre and an important hub under the Belt and Road Initiative
這就是我們的國際視野。
This is our international vision
我們要讓國際社會知道，如果畫上紅線，無論涉及甚麼自由，當局都會設法打壓。
We want the international community to know that if a red line is drawn the authorities will try to suppress all kinds of freedom
今天有些同事也要表忠，清楚說明他們的立場是緊跟中央。
Some colleagues have also showed loyalty today by stating clearly that they toe the line of the Central Authorities
所以，任何有關獨立的言論都不能容許，提供討論場地亦不能容許，外國機構也要趕出去。
Therefore all remarks about independence cannot be allowed the provision of venues for discussion is not allowed and even foreign institutions have to be driven away
特區政府已引用《社團條例》，宣布香港民族黨是非法組織。
The SAR Government has invoked the Societies Ordinance to declare that the Hong Kong National Party is an illegal organization
今天，對付黑社會的條例竟然被用作政治打壓工具。
Today the ordinance which aims to combat the triad society has surprisingly been invoked as a political suppression tool
如果言論自由引發仇恨或令其他人受到傷害，甚至煽動暴力，我們都不能接受。
Freedom of speech is unacceptable if it triggers hatred causes harm to other people or if it even incites violence
但是，陳浩天的言論與煽動暴力、引致其他人受到傷害有否直接關係？
Are Andy CHANs remarks directly related to inciting violence and causing harm to others?
言論自由是有限制的，但有關言論沒有抵觸基本的核心價值。
Freedom of speech has restrictions but those remarks have not contradicted the basic core values
我們也想知道這事件與中央有否直接關係。
We also want to know whether this incident is directly related to the Central Authorities
如果是，便可能違反《基本法》，我們要求特區政府向市民清楚交代。
If so the Basic Law may be violated and we ask the SAR Government to give the public a clear account of the incident
我們要維護基本的核心價值，並維護《基本法》給予所有人的保障，就是我們有言論自由和表達自由。
We must uphold the basic core values and safeguard the protection provided to us under the Basic Law ie . we have freedom of speech and freedom of expression
國際社會的秩序就是建立在大家都說道理，用文明的形式發表意見，而不是不喜歡聽便不讓他人發表意見或在境內出現。
The order of the international community is based on the fact that people are reasonable and they express their views in a civilized way rather than prohibiting those they dislike from speaking or from staying in their countries
我認為，中國或特區政府不應有這種野蠻行為。
I believe that the Chinese or the SAR governments should not behave in such a savage way
我們應要文明、開放及公開地讓大家有基本的表達自由，不應只會緊緊跟隨中央劃下的紅線。
We should allow all people to have the basic freedom of expression in a civilized liberal and open manner instead of toeing closely the red line drawn by the Central Authorities
所以，我發言支持毛孟靜議員的議案，要求保安局局長和入境事務處處長到立法會交代整件事的來龍去脈。
Hence I speak in support of Ms Claudia MOs motion to summon the Secretary for Security and the Director of Immigration to attend before the Council to explain the ins and outs of the whole incident
我想提出規程問題。
I have a point of order
陸頌雄議員和葛珮帆議員剛才在發言中提到，有些反對派議員是......
When Mr LUK Chung - hung and Dr Elizabeth QUAT spoke just now they mentioned that a number of opposition Members were sorry I did not intend to rise to speak since just now Mr LUK Chung - hung
《議事規則》第415條提到"議員發言的內容不得意指另一議員有不正當動機"。
Rule 415 of the Rules of Procedure states that A Member shall not impute improper motives to another Member
然後，我再聽到葛珮帆議員剛才的陳辭，其實我亦認為葛珮帆議員是在意指民主派議員聲稱反對"港獨"，實質卻是想搭建一個台去支持"港獨"。
I then heard Dr Elizabeth QUATs speech . In fact I also think that Dr Elizabeth QUAT was also implying that democratic Members though claiming to oppose Hong Kong independence were actually intending to set up a platform to advocate Hong Kong independence
我想請代理主席裁決，剛才兩位議員的發言有否違反《議事規則》第415條。
I would like to ask the Deputy President to make a ruling on whether these two Members have contravened Rule 415 of the Rules of Procedure
我也覺得她剛才的演技不俗，有點"元秋"上身的戲劇感。
I also think that just now she was quite an actress adding a touch of drama to her speech in a manner reminiscent of YUEN Qiu
如不進行調查，又如何知道真相呢？
How can the truth come to light without an inquiry?
如要追究責任但卻沒有資料在手，又如何追究呢？
If we wish to pursue responsibilities how can we do so with no information on hand?
它已否決一些建制派議員的建議，拒絕擴大調查委員會的職能，將調查範圍由只調查沙中線紅磡站剪鋼筋的事件擴闊至土瓜灣站的情況。
It has turned down the proposals of some Members from the pro - establishment camp refusing to expand the terms of reference of the Commission and widen the scope of inquiry to also cover the situation at To Kwa Wan Station not just the shortened steel reinforcement bars at Hung Hom Station of SCL
其實建制派議員說一套、做一套，表決時肯定與他們之前所說的不符。
Members from the pro - establishment camp actually do not practise what they preach who will definitely vote in a way that contradicts what they said before
因此，如果市民有事要向建制派議員求助，又怎會得知真相？
Hence when something happens how are those people who seek help from the pro - establishment Members going to find out the truth?
他們站在支持政府的一方，要為陳帆局長保駕護航，這就是為何我們最後仍然堅持必須引用P&P進行調查。
They side with the Government coming to the defence of Secretary Frank CHAN . That is why we ultimately still insist that we must invoke PP Ordinance to conduct an inquiry
主席，我也想談談我的觀察。
President I also wish to talk about my observations
雖然有議員質疑為何毛孟靜議員、林卓廷議員和民主派議員鍥而不捨地多番提出引用P&P進行調查，但這是因為有很多事情我們至今仍然蒙在鼓裏。
While some Members queried why Ms Claudia MO Mr LAM Cheuk - ting and the pro - democracy Members had repeatedly proposed to invoke PP Ordinance to conduct an inquiry unwilling to let go I wish to say that it is because we are still kept in the dark over a number of issues even now
其實沙中線工程出現的問題，有報章報道指政府根本在2015年已知悉。
In fact it has been reported in the press that the problems arising in the construction of SCL were actually known to the Government in 2015