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我希望政府認真考慮，這些可以幫助市民解決問題的好事，政府應該排除萬難，勇往直前。
These are all good initiatives that will help solve public problems . I hope the Government will consider them seriously and press on despite difficulties
代理主席，我們今天討論的只是針對短期的問題，但長遠要解決房屋問題，始終要靠大幅增加土地。
Deputy President our discussion today only focuses on short - term issues . To resolve the housing problem in the long term though we ultimately need a dramatic increase in land
近期社會熱烈討論"明日大嶼"計劃，正所謂真理越辯越明，財經界的專家已經多次力證計劃切實可行。
The Lantau Tomorrow Vision has provoked a heated debate in the community recently . As the saying the more truth is debated the clearer it becomes goes financial experts have made a compelling case time and again for the feasibility of the project
所以，"明日大嶼"計劃是解決香港居住問題的最有效方法，希望市民能夠多聽各方面的意見，自然可以判斷真假。
Hence the Lautau Tomorrow Vision is the most effective way of resolving the housing problem in Hong Kong . I hope that the public can listen to the views from all quarters which will help them to judge the rights and wrongs
同時，過去發展棕地及農地沒有成效，其中一個原因是土地擁有者覺得奇貨可居，但當"明日大嶼"上馬，將來會有大量 土地供應，再無奇貨可居，屆時發展棕地及農地將會更有把握，土地的短中期供應便會更有保證。
Moreover one reason behind the ineffectual development of brownfield sites and agricultural land in the past was that sites owners saw value in hoarding . Yet with the implementation of the Lantua Tomorrow Vision there will be an abundant supply of land in the future making hoarding pointless . This will in turn improve the prospect of developing brownfield sites and agricultural land and provide greater assurance of land supply in the short and medium terms
新訂的第91A條 紀律委員會可作出一般指示。
New clause 91A Disciplinary committee may give general directions
局長，請動議你的第二組修正案，以二讀新訂條文。
Secretary you may move your second group of amendment to read the new clause the Second time
代理主席，我動議講稿附錄我的第二組修正案，以二讀新訂的第91A條。
Deputy Chairman I move my second group of amendment to read new clause 91A as set out in the Appendix to the Script the Second time
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：新訂的第91A條，予以二讀。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the new clause 91A be read the Second time
代理主席，我動議在條例草案增補新訂的第91A條。
Deputy Chairman I move that the new clause 91A be added to the Bill
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：本條例草案增補新訂的第91A條。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the new clause 91A be added to the Bill
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：第37、38及39條納入本條例草案。
I now put the question to you and that is That clauses 37 38 and 39 stand part of the Bill
現在處理局長的第二組修正案，即新訂條文。
The committee now deals with the Secretarys second group of amendment that is the new clause
陸頌雄議員，請動議你的修正案。
Mr LUK Chung - hung you may move your amendments
代理主席，我動議講稿附錄我的修正案，以修正第37、38及39條。
Deputy Chairman I move my amendments to amend clauses 37 38 and 39 as set out in the Appendix to the Script
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：陸頌雄議員動議的修正案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the amendments moved by Mr LUK Chung - hung be passed
我認為議題未獲得經由功能團體選舉產生及分區直接選舉產生的兩部分在席委員，分別以過半數贊成。
I think the question is not agreed by a majority respectively of each of the two groups of Members that is those returned by functional constituencies and those returned by geographical constituencies through direct elections who are present
我宣布修正案被否決。
I declare the amendments negatived
主席，兩年前，我懷着沉痛的心情，在這裏談論"劏房"問題，因為當時在荃灣接連發生了兩宗火災，導致有人死亡，其中一宗在二陂坊，另一宗在享和街。
President two years ago in this Council I spoke on the problem of subdivided units with a heavy heart because two fires had broken out successively in Tsuen Wan resulting in fatalities . One of them happened at Yi Pei Square and the other happened at Heung Wo Street
當時我亦表示希望政府探討發牌制度或登記制度。
I said at the time that I hoped the Government would explore the introduction of a licensing or registration system
但是，當時我提出登記制度，出發點是因為我們認為雖然"劏房"是臨時居所，但也應該符合基本的安全標準，例如最低限度設置滅火筒。
However when I proposed the introduction of a registration system back then my intention was that even though the subdivided units were intended to be a provisional housing option they should meet the basic safety standards . For instance they should at least be retrofitted with fire extinguishers
另外，曾經出現一些情況，便是即使發生火警，消防員到達有關單位，卻根本找不到入口，原來上層店鋪的閣樓須在下層一個入口走上去。
Besides there were cases before that when a fire broke out the firemen could not find the entrance when they arrived at the unit concerned because in order to reach the mezzanine floor of a shop they had to use one of the entrances downstairs
我甚至想問問死者是誰，也找不到。
Even though I wanted to inquire about the identity of the deceased there is no way to ascertain it
所以，事件發生了這麼久，我相信這宗也是"無頭公案"了，沒有辦法，因為業主在外國，他委託了某些人，又或某些人霸佔了物業，然後將之出租，結果是他可以繼續出租物業。
So as it has been a long time since the incident happened I think it will remain to be an unresolved case . Nothing can be done about it for the owner is staying abroad and has entrusted this unit to the care of some people or some people have taken possession of his unit and then rented it out and so this unit can continue to be rented out . This subdivided unit has now been restored as a subdivided unit again
所以，我希望有一套簡單的登記制度。
This is why I hope to put in place a simple registration system
就是如此簡單，也是最容易做的。
It is just this simple and these requirements would be easy to meet
其實我希望政府在住屋，尤其是在這類過渡性房屋的問題上，應該按部就班、有次有序地做。
Actually I hope that the Government will take a gradual orderly approach in addressing the issue of housing especially transitional housing of this sort
政府應該盡量提供協助，令供應增加。
The Government should provide assistance by all means to enable increased supply
只要有供應，市場租金自然會回落。
So long as there is supply the market rent will naturally fall
當租金 回落時，業主為了促使更多人租住，便會有市場動力，令他們對"劏房"作出改善。
When the rent comes down and as the landlords want to encourage more people to rent their units they will be driven by the market to make improvements to the subdivided units
因此，我希望第一步是先增加供應，在不同區份或"劏房"比較集中的地區增加供應。
In this connection I hope the first step is to increase supply . The Government should increase supply in various districts or districts where there is a greater concentration of subdivided units
第二步，是推行民建聯倡議的"劏房"租金管制。
The next step is to implement rent control for subdivided units as proposed by the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong
所以我們希望對這類最基本的人權、最基本的需要，政府可以加以管制。
Therefore we hope that the Government can impose control on these situations that concern the most basic human right and the most basic need of the people
同時，我也看到地政總署其實也有不少執法行動，針對一些寮屋。
Meanwhile I have seen that the Lands Department has actually carried out quite a lot of enforcement actions targeting squatter huts
有些寮屋可能在1982年6月1日前已搭建，但因為收到一些投訴，例如指門口加建了簷蓬，因此要將整間屋拆卸。
Some squatter huts were erected probably before 1 June 1982 but given complaints about say the erection of a canopy at the doorway the entire squatter hut had to be pulled down
結果便為住屋帶來更多剛性的需求。
As a result this has brought about more rigid demands for housing
所以，我希望在寮屋政策方面，政府也考慮措施的優先次序。
For this reason I hope that in respect of the policy on squatter huts the Government will also consider the priorities of its measures
我知道政府就一些新搭建的寮屋，會採取即時清拆的做法，對此我十分贊成，因為我們不應該讓非法搭建的寮屋大量增加。
I understand that newly erected squatter huts will be cleared by the Government immediately . This I very much support because we should not allow illegally erected squatter structures to increase considerably
但是，對於一些存在已久、有歷史因由的寮屋，應該用一個暫緩的方式，容許居民暫時棲身，不要令房屋需求，尤其是對"劏房"的需求變得這麼大。
But for squatter huts that have existed for a long time and for historical reasons their removal should be suspended to allow the residents to live there temporarily in order not to boost the demand for housing especially the demand for subdivided units
我希望政府部門能夠聽到這些建議，在未有辦法興建足夠房屋前，採取一些短期措施或行政方法，令居於"劏房"的居民可以，第一，租金下降；第二，有一個比較安全的居所。
I hope that government departments can hear these suggestions and before there is a way to develop sufficient housing units short - term measures or administrative initiatives should be adopted to enable tenants of subdivided units to firstly pay lower rents and secondly have a safer dwelling place
我先回應局長批評我無視業界的運作。
Let me first respond to the Secretarys criticism that I have disregarded the operation of the trade
究竟是誰無視業界的運作，無視業界"習非成是，'假自僱'成風"的問題？
Who has actually disregarded the practice of the trade to accept what is wrong as right the practice of false self - employment etc?
"打工仔"受僱工作，當然應有僱主。
Wage earners are employed to work; they must therefore have an employer
然而，現在偏偏很多行業出現一種現象，便是明明雙方是僱傭關係，老闆卻不認夥計，夥計如果發生意外，就得不到任何保障和僱員權益。
However it is now common for employers in different trades to deny their employees despite the existence of a clear employer - employee relationship . Should any accident happen to these employees they will not get any protection and are not entitled to any rights
勞工處有一份簡單的資料，以比較通俗的方式說明何謂僱員、外判人士或自僱人士。
The Labour Department has prepared an easy guide which explains how to distinguish an employee from a contractor or self - employed person in a simple way
第一，誰人對工作程序、時間及工作方式安排擁有控制權。
Firstly who is having control over work procedures working time and method?
大家也知道，導遊和領隊透過旅行社獲分配行程景點、路線和旅客。
As we all know tourist guides and tour escorts are assigned with itineraries routes and tourists by travel agents
就大多數的導遊和領隊而言，他們所預約的旅遊巴士，甚至手持的旗幟也是由旅行社提供的。
For most of the tourist guides and tour escorts the coaches they booked or even the flags in their hands are provided by travel agents
第三，是否須自行經營業務和負上投資及管理上的責任。
Thirdly is the person carrying on business on his own account with investment and management responsibilities?
我未曾聽聞導遊和領隊要負上投資上的責任，又或公司的生意盈虧與他們有關。
I have never heard that tourist guides and tour escorts are required to shoulder investment responsibility or that they will have anything to do with the profits or losses of the business
其實，我的建議並非希望令業界受到不合理規管，造成不便，我完全沒有這種想法。
In fact my proposed amendments do not mean to put the trade under unreasonable regulation and cause inconvenience . That is not my intention
我希望大家釐清基本的事實，讓大家有法可依，減少爭拗。
All I want is to clarify a basic fact so that relevant rules are stipulated for compliance to minimize disputes
僱員既得到保障，老闆也為僱員提供足夠的保險和相關待遇，這樣雙方便沒有甚麼可爭拗。
If employees are protected with employers providing them with sufficient insurance coverage and remuneration there is not much for both parties to argue about
同時，他們亦得不到《僱員補償條例》的保障，而這點至為重要。
At the same time they are not protected under the Employees Compensation Ordinance and this point is very important
舉例而言，僱員工傷可享五分之四的工資；如看醫生，每天可享300元津貼；如永久傷殘，便根據他的年齡及傷殘的百分比獲得賠償；若員工因工死亡，最高可獲70多個月薪金的賠償。
For example an employee who suffers a work injury is entitled to an allowance equivalent to four fifths of his wage and a medical allowance of 300 each day; in case of permanent disability the compensation payable will be calculated with reference to his age and percentage of disability; if an employee dies in the course of employment the compensation for death can be up to more than 70 months of earnings
可是，業界的情況就是這樣習非成是，奉行不良行規。
However the trade has taken this wrong practice as right
究竟是誰無視業界運作？
Who is the one who has disregarded the operation of the trade?
至於較早前有人說，有導遊喜歡身兼數份工作，這也沒有問題。
As mentioned by some Members earlier there are tourist guides who love to take several jobs at the same time
業界可以商量，完全沒有問題。
The trade will be willing to discuss this issue; there is no problem at all
不就是一間公司為某些人購買保險，例如某間建築工程公司可能長期有若干的工人為其工作，便為該等工人購買保險。
A company will take out insurance for their workers . For example if a construction firm has employed a number of workers who are going to work for some time it will just take out insurance for these workers
我並非認為《條例草案》一無是處，而是我也覺得這項《條例草案》對業界是有進步的。
I am not saying that the Bill is completely useless; I actually agree that the Bill will bring some improvements to the trade
至於對勞工界的保障，我不敢說沒有，但非常少及有限，所以我們認為《條例草案》第38及39條應強調導遊和領隊受僱於持牌旅行代理商，即彼此是僱傭關係。
However in respect of labour protection I dare not say the Bill offers no protection but the protection offered is minimal and limited . Therefore in our view clauses 38 and 39 of the Bill should highlight the employer - employee relationship between travel agents and tourist guidestour escorts indicating that the latter are employed by the former
此外，關於《條例草案》第37條"展示旅行團的資料"的問題，我們強調既要保障消費者，同時亦要平衡員工的工作權。
Besides regarding the display of information about tour group as provided in clause 37 of the Bill while consumers should be protected we also have to balance employees right to work
就是說，最低限度參加旅行團的人士，應知悉外遊團有沒有外遊領隊，即我的修正案第372條所訂定，"未有安排領隊陪同外遊旅行團，須以訂明方式，向旅行團團員展示訂明資料"。
Participants of an outbound tour group should at least be informed of whether the group will be accompanied by an outbound tour escort and that is the provision of clause 372 in my amendment If a licensed travel agent has not arranged a tour escort to accompany an outbound tour group it must display in the prescribed way the prescribed information to the participants of the tour group
所以，立法始終很重要，亦是本會最重要的工作，就是如何令整項《條例草案》更完善。
Legislation is always of overriding importance . As law - making is the most important function of the Council it is our duty to perfect the Bill
最後，我們很希望本會同事支持我就《條例草案》第37、38及39條提出的修正案。
Lastly we very much hope that Honourable colleagues in this Council will support my amendments on clauses 37 38 and 39 of the Bill
我們希望消費者有保障，並讓"打工仔"有工作權及遇事時能有保障。
It is our wish to protect consumers and safeguard wage earners right to work and their interests in case of accident
第二，我理解涂謹申議員的憂慮，因為今時今日，老實說，"一國兩制"已蕩然無存，法治也受到衝擊，我們對政府的信任水平也越來越低，要像以往一樣毫無保留地信任政府，實在頗為困難，這是事實。
The second point is that I understand Mr James TOs worries . Honestly one country two systems has gone today the rule of the law has been undermined and the level of our trust in the Government has become lower and lower . It is really difficult for us to unreservedly trust the Government as we did in the past
大家都知道，香港主張守法，香港特別行政區的基礎是落實《中英聯合聲明》的《基本法》，但國家外交部發言人說，《聲明》是一份歷史文件，可以不予理會，《聲明》的締約國也無權詢問，批評那是干預國家內政。
Everyone knows that Hong Kong advocates compliance with the law and the foundation of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region is the Basic Law for the implementation of the Sino - British Joint Declaration . However the spokesman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that the Declaration was a historical document that could be disregarded and parties which signed the Declaration did not have the right to make enquiries as such acts were interfering with the internal affairs of the country
然而，我們擔心這些曾獲國際社會認定的協定，可能會無聲無息地不被重視。
Nevertheless we are worried that these agreements which have been recognized by the international community might be ignored unnoticed
這是不可行的，因為香港仍要生存，商界也要生存。
This should not happen as the survival of Hong Kong and of the business sector are involved
《香港政策法》清楚訂明，香港要落實"一國兩制"、"港人治港"及"高度自治"，而香港獨特的制度包括司法、行政及立法獨立。
The Hong Kong Policy Act clearly stipulates that one country two systems Hong Kong people ruling Hong Kong and a high degree of autonomy must be implemented in Hong Kong and Hong Kong must maintain its unique systems which includes independence of the judicial administrative and legislative powers
我們不單遵守香港法例，也遵守國際協議及國際法。
We not only abide by the laws of Hong Kong but also comply with international agreements and international law
所以，我誓死捍衞這些協議，因為不可以......
So I vow to defend these agreements because we cannot
我們也不想最重要的貿易夥伴或對手，指明"香港已死"，不遵守"一國兩制"、"港人治港"及"高度自治"，因而把香港排除在外。
We also do not want our most important trading partners or competitors to say that Hong Kong is dead or that we fail to comply with one country two systems Hong Kong people ruling Hong Kong and a high degree of autonomy thus excluding Hong Kong
為何大陸高官的子女要來港？
Why do the children of Mainland senior officials come to Hong Kong?
"劏房"人均居所樓面面積中位數為5.3平方米，而"劏房"住戶每月租金中位數為4,500元。
The median per capita floor area of subdivided units was 5.3 sq m and the median monthly rental payment of households living in subdivided units was 4,500
上述數字反映，部分香港人的居住環境相當惡劣，其中一些住戶已捱了近10年，更可能要多捱10年，試問人生還有多少個10年？
These figures have reflected the poor living conditions of some Hong Kong people . Some of the households have been suffering for nearly a decade and they may still have to endure this for another decade to come . How many decades do we have in a lifetime?
整體而言，時下"劏房"存在三大問題：一為安全隱患；二為租金高企；三為環境擠迫。
Overall there are currently three major problems with subdivided units first safety hazards; second high rental and third overcrowded living conditions
原議案提出訂立規管"劏房"的條例，主要透過立法解決或紓緩上述問題。
The original motion has proposed the enactment of an ordinance on regulating subdivided units which mainly seeks to resolve or alleviate the aforesaid problems by way of legislation
自由黨認為，除了杜絕安全隱患外，後兩者根本難以解決，亦非透過行政措施所能杜絕。
The Liberal Party holds that except the safety hazards which may be eliminated the latter two problems can hardly be resolved nor can they be eradicated through administrative measures
對於涉及消防安全隱患及影響房屋結構的"劏房"，政府理應嚴加取締，並飭令相關業主糾正違法建築。
For those subdivided units involving fire safety hazards with structure being affected the Government ought to stamp them out rigorously and order the landlords to rectify such illegal structures
然而，自由黨明白現實情況：居於"劏房"的人口高達21萬人，佔全港人口3%；按住戶計算更佔全港137萬多個私樓單位住戶的6.7%。
Nevertheless the Liberal Party understands the reality that there are as many as 210 000 persons living in subdivided units accounting for 3 % of the population of Hong Kong and on a household basis they even account for 6.7 % of some 1 370 000 households living in private housing across the territory
在私樓及公營房屋均供不應求 的情況下，當局根本無法應付取締大部分"劏房"後所產生的嚴重後果。
With the shortage of both private and public rental housing PRH units the authorities simply cannot cope with the dire consequences ensuing from a ban on most subdivided units
所以，基於現實考慮，自由黨不得不承認，在現階段而言，"劏房"不能亦不應全面取締。
Hence out of practical considerations the Liberal Party cannot but admit that at this stage there cannot and should not be a total ban on subdivided units
我們甚至要容忍一些沒有即時結構危險，但亦觸犯《建築物條例》的僭建或改建"劏房"繼續存在，從而給予當局更多時間，透過填海造地以解決房屋供應不足的核心問題。
We even have to condone the continued existence of those illegal or converted subdivided units with no imminent structural danger but in contravention of BO thereby giving the authorities more time to address the core issue of insufficient housing supply by reclamation of land
當局為"劏房"發牌以至規管，本質上會帶來很大的道德風險，因為"劏房"給人的印象始終過於負面，亦一直具有剝削和謀取暴利的特質。
A licensing system for regulating subdivided units introduced by the authorities will in essence give rise to serious moral hazard because after all the perceptions on subdivided units which have long been carrying exploitative and profiteering features are terribly negative
假使特區政府為這類不獲好評的"劏房"背書，難免令人質疑政府是否牽頭鼓勵"劏房"業務。
The Special Administrative Region SAR Governments endorsement of such less than welcome subdivided units will inevitably lead to queries as to whether the Government is taking the lead in promoting the operation of subdivided units
因此，自由黨原則上反對特區政府對現存的"劏房"進行發牌規管，以免這些劣質"劏房"的業主更有恃無恐，令"劏房"問題更嚴重。
For this reason the Liberal Party opposes in principle the introduction of a licencing system by the SAR Government to regulate the existing subdivided units so as not to give landlords of such substandard subdivided units even greater impunity and aggravate the problems with subdivided units
另一方面，目前大部分"劏房"都沒有安裝獨立電錶及水錶，因為濫收租客水電費用是"劏房"業主另一重要收入來源。
Meanwhile most subdivided units do not have separate water and electricity meters installed because another important source of income of landlords is overcharging tenants of water and electricity tariffs
我們原則上贊成"劏房"業主須為各個住戶安裝獨立水電錶，但我們亦認識到當中的困難，尤其是全面規定現存"劏房"必須安裝獨立水電錶更是難上加難。
While we in principle support the installation of separate water and electricity meters for all households by landlords of subdivided units we are also aware of the difficulties involved and even more difficult is in particular the introduction of an across - the - board requirement for the existing subdivided units to install separate water and electricity meters
再者，整個立法規管和執法過程勢將經年累月，並會遇上重大阻力。
Moreover the entire process of enactment and enforcement of the regulation will definitely take years and meet with strong resistance
自由黨期望政府優先立法，規定新建"劏房"必須安裝獨立水電錶，以解決新增"劏房"住戶被業主濫收水電費的問題，然後才按區域或樓宇種類編排現存"劏房"安裝獨立水電錶的次序，以分階段方式落實安裝獨立水電錶的規定。
The Liberal Party expects the Government to give priority to enacting legislation to require the installation of separate water and electricity meters in new subdivided units to prevent households of those new units from being overcharged by landlords of water and electricity tariffs before deciding on how the installation of separate water and electricity meters in the existing subdivided units should be prioritized by district or type of buildings thereby implementing the requirement of installing separate water and electricity meters in phases
就原議案提出規管"劏房"租金的建議，基於反對租金管制的同一道理，自由黨亦反對這種變相的租管制度，原因是租金管制只會降低業主出租單位的誘因，減少出租單位的供應，進而令社會對"劏房"的需求更殷切。
Concerning the proposal for regulating the rent of subdivided units in the original motion as the Liberal Party opposes rent control by the same token it also opposes such a de facto tenancy control system for the reason that rent control will only reduce the incentive for landlords to rent out their units leading to a drop in the supply of rented accommodation which will in turn push up the demand for subdivided units in society
如此一來，"劏房"會供不應求，"劏房"市場更可能因此走向高端化，因為業主或會優化"劏房"檔次以求收取較高租金。
In that case with the shortage of subdivided units there may even be a shift in the market of subdivided units to the provision of high - end accommodation as landlords may upgrade the subdivided units to ask for higher rents
這間接令有意租住"劏房"的人士更難覓得符合其經濟能力和需要的單位，"劏房"為基層市民或正在輪候公屋的市民提供臨時安身之所的功能亦會大幅降低。
This will indirectly make it harder for prospective tenants to find subdivided units that best meet their means and needs and significantly undermine the role of subdivided units in providing grass - roots people or those waiting for public rental housing allocation with temporary accommodation
歸根究底，解決"劏房"的唯一方法是增加房屋供應。
In the final analysis the only solution to the problem of subdivided units is to increase housing supply
因此，自由黨絕對支持政府當局盡快落實"明日大嶼願景"及其他拓展土地供應的計劃。
Hence the Liberal Party fully supports the early implementation of the Lantau Tomorrow Vision and other plans to boost land supply by the Administration
這些故事聽起來好像很荒謬，但其實每天也在舊區發生。
These stories may sound ridiculous but they are actually happening in the old districts every day
因此，主席，我今天非常歡迎葉劉淑儀議員提出這項議案，因為當中提出的內容及方向絕對可以協助基層住戶，特別是"劏房"租戶。
Hence President I very much welcome the motion proposed by Mrs Regina IP today because its content and direction can definitely assist grass - roots households particularly tenants of subdivided units
我們大致認同原議案建議的方向，但我認為有數個方面可以再作思考，而相關建議亦可表達得更明確。
We generally support the direction proposed in the original motion . But I think further thoughts may be given to a few aspects and the relevant recommendations can be made more specific
分租單位確實並非香港獨有的現象，亦見於英國、澳洲以至加拿大等歐美國家，而這些地區均設有一套法規管理這類租住房屋。
Tenement flats are actually a phenomenon not unique to Hong Kong . They are also found in such countries in Europe and America as the United Kingdom Australia and Canada where a set of laws and regulations are in place to regulate such rental housing
既然原議案建議參考海外地區的做法，我們認為不如多參考數個地方，看看其他地區的發牌制度如何運作及有何好處，因為每個地方也可能有各自的優劣。
As the original motion has proposed that reference be drawn from overseas practice we think we may as well draw reference from a few more places to study the operation and advantages of the licensing systems in other regions because they may have their respective merits and demerits
我初步參考了數個地方的發牌制度，當中確實有些措施可以加強對租客的保障。
I have initially drawn reference from the licensing systems of a few places under which some measures may actually better protect tenants
舉例而言，當局會規定最小的居住面積、有書面及特定規格的租約、提供合乎規格的消防設備、出租住所位於特定地區，甚至管理者也要通過某類品格審查。
For example the authorities will stipulate the minimum living area the signing of a written tenancy agreement in a specific format the provision of eligible fire service installations the designated locations of rented premises and even certain integrity checks on administrators
這些發牌條件給我的第一個感覺是似乎頗有效，可以幫得上忙，但我同時亦有點擔心。
My first perception of such licensing conditions is that they seem to be rather effective which may be helpful to us . But I am also a bit worried at the same time
如果參考英國的做法，我非常擔心大部分"劏房"根本無法取得牌照，屆時"劏房"租戶也不知要到何處容身。
If we draw reference from the practice of the United Kingdom I am gravely concerned that most subdivided units are simply unable to secure a license . I wonder where those tenants of subdivided units can go then
然而，主席，我並不反對就"劏房"研究制訂規管機制，包括原議案提及的發牌制度。
Nevertheless President I do not oppose a study on the establishment of a regulatory mechanism for subdivided units including the licensing system stated in the original motion