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自由黨不反對政府善用棕地作房屋發展，但有些棕地已改為用作各式各樣的經濟活動。
The Liberal Party is not opposed to the Governments plan to optimize the use of brownfield sites for housing development . But then some brownfield sites have already been used for various kinds of economic activities instead
因此，如果政府要發展棕地，便必須採取"先安置後收地"的政策，妥善安置現時棕地上的作業。
For this reason if the Government is to develop brownfield sites it must properly resite existing brownfield operations by adopting a policy of resiting before land resumption
我想說，政府從來都欠缺商用車輛的泊車政策或貨櫃貯存政策，業界只能靠自己解決泊車問題，而棕地順理成章成為了這些車輛的"避難所"。
I wish to say that as the Government has never come up with a policy on commercial vehicle parking or container storage members of the sector can only rely on themselves to solve the parking problem and brownfield sites have naturally become havens for the vehicles concerned
根據政府的數據，現時的中型和重型貨車共有約42,000輛，如果每公頃土地可以停泊110輛貨車，那麼先前提及的民間團體調查所指、用作露天停車場的171公頃棕地，便可以提供約19,000個泊車位，佔全港貨車泊車位接近六成。
According to government statistics there are altogether some 42 000 medium and heavy goods vehicles at present . If each hectare of land can accommodate up to 110 goods vehicles then the 171 hectares of brownfield sites used as open - air parking lots as referred to in the community groups survey mentioned earlier can provide about 19 000 parking spaces which account for nearly 60 % of all goods vehicle parking spaces in Hong Kong
如果沒有替代土地安置，絕非把車輛隨時駛走就可以把這些棕地用作發展。
In the event that there are no alternative sites for these parking lots there is absolutely no way that such brownfield sites can be used for development even if the vehicles concerned are driven away
現時洪水橋有大約190公頃棕地作業，但當局目前只預留了24公頃土地。
Currently at Hung Shui Kiu there are some 190 hectares of brownfield operations but the authorities have now set aside only 24 hectares of land in this regard
事實上，我一直要求政府盡快就棕地上的作業擬備一份詳細清單，以便分類哪些作業可以"上樓"，哪些不可"上樓"而需要另行覓地重置。
In fact I have all along requested the Government to expeditiously prepare a detailed list of brownfield operations for the purpose of distinguishing operations that can be relocated to buildings from operations that cannot be relocated to buildings and need to be resited elsewhere
對於不可"上樓"的作業，政府必須在其他適合的地區提供足夠的替代土地。
As regards operations that cannot be relocated to buildings the Government must provide enough alternative sites for them in other suitable districts
選擇在棕地作業的其中一個原因是其租金低廉。
One reason for choosing to operate on a brownfield site is its low rent
以洪水橋一帶的棕地租金為例，每月平均呎價為2元至4元，對比現時葵青區的多層工業大廈或倉庫每月每平方呎的平均租金約20元，相距甚遠。
For instance the average monthly per - square - foot rent for the brownfield sites in the area of Hung Shui Kiu is 2 to 4 far less than the existing average monthly per - square - foot rent of around 20 for the multi - storey industrial buildings or warehouses in the Kwai Tsing District
就研究在其他地區覓地重置棕地作業，我曾建議政府在蓮塘口岸附近預留土地興建"物流園"，以配合口岸於後年落成。
When it comes to exploring the resiting of brownfield operations in other districts I have suggested that the Government should set aside land in the vicinity of the Liantang Boundary Control Point for constructing a logistics park to complement the commissioning of the Boundary Control Point in the year after next
自由黨希望政府認真進行全盤土地供應的長遠規劃，向公眾提交一份完整及清晰的長遠土地供應表，包括各地區的"生地"、"熟地"、閒置用地、各公營部門包括港鐵和市區重建局的總土地儲量及部分綠化 地，以及相關土地的開發模式、規模、地點、面積、應用時間等詳情，才可以減輕市場對土地供應量不確定的憂慮。
The Liberal Party hopes that the Government will seriously undertake long - term planning for land supply in a holistic manner and provide the public with a complete and clear schedule for long - term land supply which covers potential sites spade ready sites and idle sites in various districts the total land reserves of public entities including the MTR Corporation Limited and the Urban Renewal Authority and some green belt areas as well as such details as the development modes scales locations areas and times of use of the relevant land lots so as to allay market concerns over an uncertain supply of land
這才是日後遏抑樓價的方法。
Only through this can property prices be suppressed in future
現屆政府或前兩任行政長官領導的政府，有否清楚計算出人口和土地比例？
Have the current Administration and the administrations under the previous two Chief Executives clearly worked out the population - to - land ratio?
很多人也提出推行租管，亦有很多人反對。
While many people have proposed the implementation of tenancy control many others still raise objection
政府適得其所站在中間，指由於兩方正在拉鋸，因此難以作出決定。
Sitting comfortably on the fence the Government has claimed that the tug of war between the two sides has made it difficult to make a decision
香港以往曾實施租管，後來卻認為無需要。
Tenancy control which had been implemented in Hong Kong was considered unnecessary later
近年政府更以自由市場為由，認為不得規管自由經濟的運作。
In recent years given the free market principle the Government has even held the view that the operation of a free economy must not be regulated
這租金水平聽起來很匪夷所思，當中仍未計算管理費。
This level of rent which has not even included the management fee sounds very unthinkable
本來議事廳的人數已相對少，空調也加添寒意，但剛才聽到一些建制派同事藉此議題，對梁振英政府和現時政權誇誇其談，我更覺心寒。
With the relatively low number of Members in this Chamber the air - conditioning has even added to the chill . Worse still having heard some Members of the pro - establishment camp boasting about the LEUNG Chun - ying administration and the current political regime during their discussion on this topic I have felt a further chill down my spine
談及願景，我們一定會問一個問題：香港的地契或房契地限到2047年會如何處理？
Speaking of vision we must have a question in mind In what ways will Hong Kongs land leases or property leases be handled upon their expiry in 2047?
這是平民百姓必定會考慮的簡單問題。
This is a simple question which ordinary people will have in mind
當然，可能在席多位同事不太同意這個說法。
Many Members here may certainly disagree with this argument
政府官員亦會認為解決方法很簡單，可根據《基本法》第一百二十三條或過去薄扶林花園的案例處理。
Government officials may also think that the problem can be easily handled according to Article 123 of the Basic Law or the precedent of Pokfulam Gardens
然而，他們這些說法並未能平息香港人的不安。
However their arguments cannot help assure Hong Kong people
這種說法顛覆了香港人對於房屋、置業和住屋的看法。
This claim has overturned Hong Kong peoples perception of housing home ownership and accommodation
市民無能力置業之餘，現時甚至不願意"上車"。
Not only are the public unable to achieve home ownership they are even reluctant to buy their first home
政府將來面對的住屋需求問題，出現根本概念上的顛覆。
Fundamental concepts will be overturned when the Government tackles the problem of housing demand in the future
政府卻不斷提出偽命題，指土地不足，需要填海等，未有處理人口增長的根本問題。
However the Government has constantly put forward pseudo - propositions ascribing its failure to deal with the fundamental issue of population growth to land shortage and the need of reclamation
眾所周知，過往公屋興建給香港人居住，但時至今日，入住公屋的卻是來自中國大陸的新移民。
As we all know public housing was built for Hong Kong people in the past . However new immigrants from Mainland China are allocated PRH units nowadays
我們並非排外，只是說出一個簡單的事實。
We are not xenophobic . We just state a simple truth
作為香港人，面對未來的發展需要，我們沒有想過最基本的公屋權利都會遭受破壞。
Given our future development needs we as Hong Kong people have never thought that even our most basic right to public housing will be undermined
如果人生遇到不幸，可能要入住中轉房屋，但現在政府連市區最後一座中轉屋也要拆除，變相迫使香港人買樓。
If something unfortunate happens one may need to move into interim housing . However the Government will demolish the last interim housing in urban areas which is tantamount to coercing Hong Kong people into buying properties
資金不足的可以買 128平方呎的房屋，但在2047年有可能會被收歸國有。
Those who do not have enough money can now purchase those 128 sq ft flats which may however end up being nationalized in 2047
我願意贊成，但希望在席同事和政府官員多加考慮，解決房屋問題只有從憲政上着手，必須處理《基本法》的漏洞。
I am ready to support the motion but I hope that the Members and government officials present can give more thought to resolving the housing problem constitutionally by plugging the loophole of the Basic Law
根據現時的規劃，未來東涌將可以容納27萬人口，而洪水橋的發展項目亦可以容納21萬人口。
According to the present planning Tung Chung can accommodate 270 000 people in future and the Hung Shui Kiu New Development Area can also accommodate 210 000 people
新界東北的發展計劃蹉跎了8年，第一階段諮詢早在2008年已經開始，然後一直拖延至今，但預計也可以容納18萬人口，提供6萬個單位。
The North East New Territories Development plans have been stalled for eight years now . Stage I of the consultation began in as early as 2008 and the development has been stalled to date . It is estimated that the area can accommodate 180 000 people and provide 60 000 housing units
此外，現屆政府亦計劃在中部水域興建人工島，預計可以容納70萬人口。
Moreover the incumbent Government also plans to construct artificial islands in the central waters that is Kau Yi Chau which is expected to accommodate 700 000 people
我們可以看到，這些都是可以長遠解決未來整體房屋需求的重要規劃，其實政府是有做工夫的。
As we can see these planning proposals can address the overall housing demand in the long run . The Government has actually been doing practical work
泛民主派的議員今天早上用盡各種方法阻撓撥款的通過，其實等於阻礙整體工作的進展，其中特別是房屋問題，基本上也是由於他們的阻撓，以致很多工作均無法成事。
The pan - democratic Members have tried by various means to obstruct the approval of the funding applications which in a way has stalled the progress of the overall work process . In particular owing to the pan - democratic Members obstruction a lot of the work planned for solving the housing problem cannot be carried out
最近，我曾與很多警務人員聊天，他們告訴我，很多退休警務人員都害怕在交還宿舍時，仍未獲編配公屋。
I have recently talked to many police officers . They told me that many police officers are worried that they still cannot be allocated a public rental housing unit when they turn in their quarters upon retirement
老實說，警隊現正面對重大的挑戰，如果連基本的房屋保障也欠奉，將會對士氣造成嚴重打擊。
Honestly nowadays the Police are faced with great challenges . If police officers basic housing needs cannot even be met it will deal a great blow to their morale
不過，觀乎泛民主派議員在今早工務小組委員會會議上的處事方式，即用盡方法阻撓撥款，我認為他們確有需要向香港市民交代，為何要這樣處理議員的工作。
However seeing the practice of the pan - democratic Members at the meeting of the Public Works Subcommittee this morning that is they have employed every means to block the funding I think they have to explain to Hong Kong people why they conduct their work as Members in such a way
主席，今天有很多同事也提到發展棕地，但聽罷局長剛才的解說，我明白大家固然想發展棕地，但實行起來的確困難重重。
President many colleagues have mentioned the development of brownfield sites today but after listening to the Secretary I understand how difficult the task is even though we all wish to see those sites developed
正如局長所說，當中可能牽涉很多複雜的業權問題，又例如有關土地可能缺乏基本建設，難以裝設排污系統等。
As pointed out by the Secretary many complex problems concerning the ownership may be involved or there is a lack of basic infrastructure facilities on those sites and it is difficult to install sewerage systems etc
如果我可以選擇，我認為較簡單的方法是，既然發展新市鎮可以容納更多人口，便應該發展新市鎮，而以填海等方式進行會較有效。
Given the choice I think it is simpler to develop new towns as new towns can accommodate more people and it will be more efficient to do so by reclaiming land
主席，我想提出的最後一點是，我承認政府在規劃方面常有不足之處，所以有需要改變政府的思維。
President the last point I wish to put forward is that I admit the Governments planning leaves much to be desired and it also needs to change its mentality
但是，如果像泛民主派議員般，動輒便以"反檯"的方式處理現時的工作，我相信長遠只會令房屋問題繼續惡化。
However if pan - democratic Members continue to adopt the present practice in handling the work that is opposing every measure the housing problem will worsen in the long run
我認為泛民主派議員依靠"賊喊捉賊"的方法得分，早晚會令市民"無啖好食"。
If pan - democratic Members continue to adopt the tactic of a thief crying thief to gain credits the general public will have everything to lose
主席，謝偉俊議員今天提出的議案關乎香港的房屋和土地這兩項困擾全港市民的問題。
President the motion moved by Mr Paul TSE today is related to Hong Kongs housing and land problems which have been plaguing all people of Hong Kong
大家可翻查一下，在2001年至2006年這5年期間，公屋的平均落成量為每年21,500個，2007年至2011年，公屋平均落成量為13,400個，而由2011年至今這5年中，公屋平均落成量只有12,500個。
The following information can reflect the situation the average annual PRH production in the five years between 2001 and 2006 was 21 500 units; 13 400 units between 2007 and 2011; and only 12 500 units for the five years since 2011 . However as the queue of applicants waiting for PRH gets longer and longer it seems that there is no end to the queue
增加土地供應是重中之重的工作，所以，我在修正案中提出在未來10年興建公屋的數量必須每年達到33,000個，因為達到這個數量，才可以清減現時公屋輪候冊上的人數，否則這條人龍只會越來越長，政府每年只提供1萬多個公屋單位，只能"止咳"，只能還息不能還本。
To increase land supply is of utmost importance . Hence I propose in my amendment to increase the annual construction of PRH units in each of the coming 10 years to 33 000 units . Only such a production volume can help reduce the number of applicants on the PRH Waiting List; otherwise the queue will just get longer and longer
當然，要達到這個建屋數量，便須大幅增加土地供應，但近年一些涉及土地的議題，往往會成為甚富爭議的政治議題。
Of course to reach the proposed production volume a significant increase in land supply is needed but in recent years all matters concerning land have always given rise to controversial political issues
我認為並非如此。
I do not think so
社會上經常提到先發展棕地，因為棕地往往是一些已破壞的農地或魚塘，保育價值十分低，但棕地的業權問題就要率先妥善處理，如果棕地屬於政府，便應由政府管理和開發；如果是私人的棕地而又適合發展的，就應合理地按法例收回，這樣才能增加並善用土地供應，縮短公屋輪候時間，為在輪候冊等候"上樓"的市民提供希望。
It is often suggested in society that brownfield sites should be developed first as these sites are mostly derelict agricultural lands or fish ponds with little conservation value . But the ownership of brownfield sites has to be properly handled first before development can take place . If the sites belong to the Government they should be managed and developed by the Government
不少輪候公屋的市民由於輪候期太長，要長期捱貴租。
We can thus give hope to the people waiting for PRH allocation . Owing to the long wait for PRH many people have to pay high rents during the waiting period
其實在香港，不論是租金、樓宇呎價、供款比例等，均與"打工仔"的工時一樣冠絕全球。
Hong Kong ranks first worldwide in respect of rents per - square - foot property prices the mortgage income ratio as well as the working hours of wage earners
對於一些長時間未能"上樓"的市民，我們認為政府應提供租金津貼。
I think the Government should provide rent subsidy to people who have applied for PRH for a long time but are still not allocated any units
我認為政府要對其"3年上樓"的承諾有所承擔，當未能履行承諾時，便應付出代價，如果不付出代價而容許這承諾久久不能實踐，政府便只會繼續鬆懈、"闊佬懶理"，無意加快興建公屋，對這群輪候者負上應有的責任。
I think the Government should honour its undertaking of a three - year waiting time for PRH allocation and when it fails to honour the undertaking it has to pay a price . If the Government does not have to pay a price and allows the undertaking to remain unhonoured for a long time it will continue to act perfunctorily with no intent to speed up the construction of PRH so as to assume its responsibility towards the applicants waiting for PRH
一旦談及租金津貼，政府便一定搬出一大道理，指政府提供租金津貼只會便宜業主，又未能協助貧窮家庭。
Whenever we talk about rent subsidy the Government will put forth some grand reasons saying that the provision of rent subsidy will only benefit the landlords but cannot help the poor families
所以，工聯會認為必須配合租務管制，訂定一些小型單位的租金上限，提升對租客的保障，如果業主不肯出租單位，便向他們徵收物業空置稅，三管齊下，才能減輕市民的租金負擔。
Therefore FTU thinks that tenancy control should also be implemented to cap the rent of small units so as to enhance the protection of tenants . For those landlords who refuse to let out their flats the Government should impose a vacant residential property tax on them . Only by taking this three - pronged approach can the peoples rental burden be eased
在這裏順帶一提，有街坊要求我們反映，現時的差餉是因應單位的租值釐定，任由這些單位的租值肆意上升，亦會加重現時已擁有物業的住戶所繳交的差餉。
In passing I would like to reflect as requested the views of some people in the community . As rates are now set on the basis of the rental value of a flat if the rent can increase arbitrarily it will also increase the rates to be paid by households which own a property
香港有三成人住在公屋，這些人相對上是較幸運的一群，但對於一群入息剛過限額，沒有資格申請公屋的家庭，他們境況最慘，只能在私人市場捱超貴租金。
In Hong Kong 30 % of people live in PRH . These people are relatively fortunate . As for those households with an income just exceeds the ceiling and are thus ineligible to apply for PRH they suffer most as they have to pay exorbitant rents in the private market
因此，我們認為政府應為不同收入、不同階層的家庭提供置業的階梯。
Therefore the Government should provide families of different income levels and social strata with different ladders for home acquisition
除了早前推出試驗性質的綠表置居先導計劃外，工聯會提議的"安居易"，亦正切合這類市民的需求，為他們提供置業的選擇。
Besides the Green Form Subsidised Home Ownership Pilot Scheme launched earlier the Easy Home Ownership Scheme proposed by FTU meets the needs of this type of people and provides them with an option of home acquisition
我們亦建議，在多元化的置業計劃外，亦要防止樓宇變成被炒賣的商品，但很可惜，直至今天，政府仍然沒有具體或有效的方法，可以防止我們緊絀的土地和房屋資源變成炒賣工具。
Besides providing various home ownership schemes we also propose that the Government should prevent residential properties being turned into a commodity for speculation . Regrettably up till now the Government has failed to come up with any specific or effective measures to prevent our scarce land and housing resources from becoming commodities for speculation
我們中國人的傳統思想，都是一心想置業，希望"有瓦遮頭"，有一個可以安身立命之所，但當大量基層家庭仍在私人市場捱貴租時，試問又如何要求他們安定下來？
Traditionally Chinese people always think that home acquisition is very important so that they can have a roof over their heads a place where they can settle down and pursuit the goals of their life . But when most grass - roots families have to pay high rents how can they settle down?
再者，除了捱貴租外，他們很多時更 會因業主大幅提高租金而被迫遷，令這些租住單位的人士，形同遊牧民族經常被迫遷。
Moreover apart from paying high rents very often they may be forced to move as they cannot afford the drastic rent increase . These families are like nomads having to move from one place to another
對於租金越來越貴的問題，政府是掌握有關情況的，但就此做了甚麼工夫？
The Government is aware of the situation of soaring rent but what has it done?
總括而言，香港人的居住環境確實很差，這是世界公認的。
All in all it is a well acknowledged fact that Hong Kong peoples living conditions are highly undesirable
隨着經濟環境改善，市民的居住面積反而越來越細，供樓負擔卻越來越重。
Even though our economic environment has improved the peoples living space is shrinking while their burden of mortgage payment is on the increase
政府近日指私人單位的供應量已大增，但這是否真正佳音？
The Government has recently said that the supply of private flats has increased substantially but is it really good news?
必須強調，現時推出的私人樓宇很多屬"蚊型單位"，呎價卻十分昂貴，最低要1萬多元，市區單位的呎價更最少要2萬元，一個200多呎的單位叫價500萬元的情況比比皆是，試問這些新供應的單位，可否幫到市民解決住屋需求？
It must be emphasized that most of these private flats are mini units but the per - square - foot price can be over 10,000 and even 20,000 or more for units in the urban areas . A unit of 200 - odd sq ft unit may cost 5 million . May I ask if such newly supplied units can really satisfy the peoples housing needs?
如果議會只懂得指責政府，事事阻撓、半步不讓，根本就並非想要解決問題。
But if the Council insists on berating the Government and imposing all kinds of obstacles without budging an inch it has no intent to solve the problem
代理主席，香港自從2002年、2003年左右停止興建居者有其屋計劃單位及開拓土地，加上近年出現環球量化寬鬆和利息低企等因素，致使物業價格屢創新高。
Deputy President since Hong Kong stopped building flats under the Home Ownership Scheme HOS and expanding land resources in around 2002 or 2003 and coupled with the factors such as global quantitative easing and low interest rates in recent years property prices have thus hit record high time and again
新界的"上車盤"最低限度要400多萬元一個，港島區的則更逼近600萬元。
A flat for first - time home buyer in the New Territories costs at least some 4 million; and a flat on the Hong Kong Island may reach 6 million
這對一般"打工仔"而言實在難以負擔，因此很多市民唯有選擇政府的資助房屋或公共租住房屋。
This is indeed unaffordable to common wage earners . Thus many Hong Kong people can only turn to subsidized housing or public rental housing PRH offered by the Government
不過，政府土地供應不足，對房屋的需求在僧多粥少的情況下，資助房屋往往錄得超額認購；入住公屋的平均輪候時間亦越來越長，已經由以往的3年延長至現時的近4年半。
However given the shortage of government land and that the housing demand far exceeding the supply oversubscription of subsidized sale flats is common; the average waiting time for PRH is also becoming longer and longer from three years in the past to almost 4.5 years at present
近年，雖然政府重建"公屋資助房屋私人樓宇"的三層置業階梯，但各級的門檻都變得越來越高。
Though the Government has reinstated the three - tier housing ladder of PRH―subsidized housing―private housing in recent years the thresholds of the respective tiers have become higher and higher
我認為，安居不過是人的基本生活需求，但對很多香港市民而言，卻似乎是一個遙不可及的夢想。
In my view having a decent home is merely a basic need in life yet for many people in Hong Kong it seems to be a distant and unreachable dream
代理主席，民主建港協進聯盟支持政府必須制訂完善的房屋政策，以解決目前市民的住屋需求問題。
Deputy President the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB concurs that the Government must formulate a comprehensive housing policy to solve the existing housing need of the people
至於我就議案提出的修正案，是希望能進一步提供更具體和可行的措施讓政府參考，以及讓公眾作出討論。
As for my proposed amendment to the motion I hope to provide more specific and feasible measures for consideration by the Government and discussion by the public
目前，樓價上升帶動租金上漲，社會上積累了不少民怨，特別是在青年人。
Presently the rise in property prices has pushed up rents . Public grievances have escalated particularly among young people
青年人置業難、租屋貴，於是申請公屋便成為他們的常態。
As young people have difficulties in buying a flat and have to pay high rent it is a normal norm for them to apply for PRH
香港房屋委員會最近完成了一項公屋申請者調查，發現在新申請者中有近五成人是學生，當中超過八成人不足30歲，而大部分大學生更視申請公屋為"買保險"。
The Hong Kong Housing Authority HKHA has recently conducted a survey on PRH applicants . It was found that nearly half of the new applicants were students and among them over 80 % were aged under 30; a majority of university students even regarded applying for PRH as taking out insurance
我不認為可以把這種現象怪罪於青年人，但是我們看到申請公屋年輕化的現象，便正正反映出現時樓價已超出青年人的負擔能力。
I do not think we can put the blame on young people for such a phenomenon . However the trend of PRH applicants being increasingly younger well reflects that the current property prices have already gone beyond the affordability of young people
我認為，青年人是社會未來棟樑，未來香港社會的發展便要依賴他們。
In my view young people are the future pillars of society; we have to count on them for the future development of our society
協助青年人安居，讓他們擁有個人的居住空間，實現理想，繼而發展事業，這些對社會絕對起着正面作用。
Helping young people get a decent home so that they can have their own living space to realize their ideal and then develop their career definitely has positive impacts on society
因此，我認為政府應着手加快制訂相關的青年置業措施。
Therefore I think the Government should expeditiously formulate measures to help young people buy their own homes
近年推出的5個青年宿舍計劃項目普遍獲得社會良好反應，我們因而期望當局繼續朝着這個方向發展。
The five Youth Hostel Scheme projects launched in recent years were generally well received by the community . We thus expect that the authorities will develop in this direction
除了青年宿舍外，政府亦應以有效流動的房屋階梯作為回應青年人長遠住屋需要的方案。因此，我們認為當局要致力降低"公屋資助 房屋私人樓宇"三層置業階梯的門檻，以作為市民的置業方向和目標。要針對房屋供應問題，協助市民覓得居所，政府應該對症下藥，針對不同經濟能力的市民，推行不同項目的針對性措施。
Besides youth hostels the Government should also address the long - term housing need of young people with an effective housing ladder
代理主席，對於今天這項"制訂房屋政策紓緩殷切住屋需求"的議案，我同意鄭松泰議員所說，這是一項"阿媽是女人"的議題。
Deputy President as regards the motion today on Formulating a housing policy to alleviate the keen housing demand I agree to what Dr CHENG Chung - tai has said that is the subject itself is a truism as in saying that My mother is a woman
但是，關鍵並非在於題目，而是題目背後的分析。
That said what is important is not the subject but the analyses pertaining to the subject
謝偉俊議員 提出"北水湧港"的問題，但我認為政策背後的問題未必是"北水湧港"，而是房屋如何成為了私人商品。
Mr Paul TSE pointed out the problem of an influx of capital from the Mainland into Hong Kong but in my view the real problem with the policy is probably not the influx of capital from the Mainland into Hong Kong but how housing units have turned into private commodities
香港的炒賣情況相當嚴重，在香港的高地價政策下，房屋成為了炒賣投資工具，政府以高地價賣地予私人地產商，私人地產商將利益最大化，把房屋以高價賣給市民。
In Hong Kong property speculation is rampant . Under the high land - price policy housing units have become speculation and investment instruments the Government sells land to private property developers at high prices and the developers maximize their profits by selling housing units to members of the public at sky - high prices
即使在議會當中，據之前的報道，議員之間的貧富懸殊也很嚴重，是否擁有物業的情況也相當懸殊，有議員沒有擁有任何物業，也有議員擁有二十五六個物業。
According to press reports earlier even in the case of the legislature the wealth gap among Members is very wide indeed; the gap among Members in terms of property ownership is particularly serious . While some Members have no property whatsoever others have 25 or 26 properties
所以，我希望當我們討論這題目時，除了討論"北水湧港"外，也可以進行一些自我反思。
For this reason in discussing the subject I hope that we can conduct a self - reflection other than pointing out the influx of capital from the Mainland into Hong Kong
在座各位是否也已把房屋變為一種商品，不斷進行炒賣投資，令問題不斷延續呢？
Have Members present turned housing units into a kind of commodity and engaged in continuous speculation and investment thus contributing to the continuity of the problem?
我們會否成為了房屋問題的共犯呢？
Have we become the accomplices of the housing problem?