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因此，若他們尚且知道自己是中國人，請別再故意扭曲《條例草案》、別再企圖"攬炒"《條例草案》，更別再作出任何侮辱和傷害自己國家的行為。
Therefore if they are still aware that they are Chinese please not to distort the Bill deliberately not to burn together with the Bill and not to commit any act to insult and harm their own country anymore . One ought to understand that only in a strong country will people be free from abuse
須知道，國強才會民不受虐。倘若中國被欺凌，他們最終亦不會得到好處，甚至連成為二等公民的資格也沒有。
If China is bullied they will not get any benefits eventually and will not even be qualified as second - class citizens
最後，我期待《條例草案》早日落實。
Finally I look forward to the early implementation of the Bill
我必須表明態度，我們應該尊重國歌，亦應該尊重其他國家的國歌，這一點是很清楚的。
I must make my stand clear . We should respect the national anthem and also those of other countries . This is perfectly clear
問題是，現時提交的《條例草案》條文，內容有沒有不恰當地限制市民的人權和自由？
The question is whether the provisions in the Bill currently submitted have improperly restricted peoples rights and freedom
最重要的是，在執法上會否讓執法機關濫權、濫告？
Most importantly in terms of enforcement will it allow abuse of power and indiscriminate prosecution by the law enforcement agency?
總共有4位議員提出合共21項修正案，目的是就原條文的不足之處作出補充。
Four Members have proposed a total of 21 amendments with the purpose of making up for the inadequacies of the original provisions
我們現在看到的《條例草案》，其實與《中華人民共和國國歌法》的篇幅大致相若，內地《國歌法》總共有16項條文，而我們的《條例草案》則有14項條文和3個附表。
As a matter of fact the Bill we now see is roughly of the same length as the Law of the Peoples Republic of China on the National Anthem . The National Anthem Law of the Mainland consists of 16 articles whereas our Bill comprises 14 clauses and three schedules
政府在當初向立法會提交的參考資料摘要中表示，考慮到香港的普通法法律制度，以及香港的實際情況，建議以本地立法形式而非公布形式在香港特區實施《國歌法》，因此才有我們現在審議的《條例草案》。
In the Legislative Council Brief submitted at the outset the Government stated that having regard to the common law system practised in Hong Kong as well as the actual local circumstances it proposed to implement the National Anthem Law in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region by local legislation instead of promulgation . That is why the Bill under our consideration now came into being
相對於現時全國人民代表大會常務委員會繞過香港立法會的審議過程，直接頒布港區國安法在香港生效的做法，《條例草案》的立法形式相對小心和謹慎。
Compared with the present approach of the Standing Committee of the National Peoples Congress NPCSC of directly enacting a Hong Kong national security law to be implemented in Hong Kong bypassing the scrutiny process of the Hong Kong Legislative Council the manner of legislation of the Bill is relatively discreet and prudent
主席，我先藉此機會糾正梁美芬議員在上星期發言中的一些資料錯誤，剛才陸頌雄議員也有類似錯誤。
Chairman let me first take this opportunity to correct some information given by Dr Priscilla LEUNG in her speech last week . Just now Mr LUK Chung - hung also made a similar mistake
梁美芬議員說中央之所以訂立全國性的《國歌法》，原因是有部分香港市民對國歌不夠尊重，恐怕梁議員沒有做足功課。
Dr Priscilla LEUNG said the reason why the Central Authorities formulated the nationwide National Anthem Law was that some Hong Kong people did not pay enough respect to the national anthem . I am afraid Dr Priscilla LEUNG did not do her homework thoroughly
全國人大常委會之所以訂立全國性的《國歌法》，是因為有部分國民對國歌的知識貧乏，唱國歌時有欠莊重。
NPCSC formulated the National Anthem Law because some nationals had little knowledge of the national anthem and were not solemn enough when singing the national anthem
根據報道，由2008年開始，本身是解放軍軍樂團指揮家的全國政協委員于海，連續10年就《國歌法》立法提案。
According to press reports since 2008 YU Hai a member of the National Committee of the Chinese Peoples Political Consultative Conference CPPCC and also a conductor of the military band of the Peoples Liberation Army had proposed to legislate for the National Anthem Law for 10 consecutive years
他眼見生活中偶有不尊重國歌、濫用國歌、奏錯國歌的情況發生，例如在2012年湖北大學的《中國近代史綱要》統一考試中，只有三分之一考生能準確默寫國歌歌詞；又例如在2013年，有問卷調查發現，有小學生以為國歌是由毛澤東作詞及貝多芬作曲。
He saw that cases of disrespect for and abuse of the national anthem as well as playing the wrong notes during the performance of the national anthem occasionally happened in daily life . For example in 2012 in the uniform examination of Hubei University on Outline of Modern Chinese History only one third of the candidates could accurately recite and write the lyrics of the national anthem . Another example was a questionnaire survey in 2013 which found out that some primary school students thought the lyricist of the national anthem was MAO Zedong and the composer Beethoven
這些情況令他鍥而不捨，堅持提案，冀能規範國歌的使用標準。
Such cases had caused him to unswervingly submit the proposal on legislation in the hope of regulating the use of the national anthem
至2015年，另一位全國政協委員言恭達同樣感到年輕一代缺乏國家意識，故此起草《關於制定國歌法的建議》，成為《國歌法》的雛形。
Then in 2015 YAN Gongda another member of the National Committee of CPPCC also felt the lack of national awareness of the young generation . He thus drafted the proposal on the enactment of a national anthem law which became the embryonic form of the National Anthem Law . I hope Dr Priscilla LEUNG will be clear about this point
我希望梁美芬議員能夠弄清這一點，全國人大常委會並非因為香港而制定一項全國性法律，不要隨便想當然。
NPCSC did not enact a national law because of Hong Kong . Please do not make any assumption lightly as a matter of course . Besides Chairman I have noted Mr CHAN Chi - chuens proposed amendments to the Bill
此外，主席，我留意到陳志全議員就《條例草案》所提出的修正案，其中一項是要在國歌教育中加入國歌作詞人和作曲人的生平及死因，這項修正案早前曾在新聞中獲特別報道，原因是政府認為這與國歌的歷史無關，要求主席不批准有關修正案。
One of them seeks to include the biography and cause of death of the lyricist and the composer of the national anthem in the education on the national anthem . Previously this amendment has been particularly covered by the news . The reason is that the Government considered the amendment irrelevant to the history of the national anthem and hence requested the Chairman to rule it inadmissible
主席，條文怎可能與歷史無關？
Chairman how will the provisions possibly be irrelevant to history?
大家都知道"義勇軍進行曲"的歷史，很多議員在這次辯論中也提到，它是1935年的電影"風雲兒女"的主題曲，在抗日戰爭時期激勵了廣大受苦的人民。
All of us know the history of March of the Volunteers . During this debate many Members have mentioned that it is the theme song of the film Children of Troubled Times in 1935 . During the War of Resistance against Japanese Aggression it boosted the morale of the suffering masses
田漢和聶耳其實是當時政府眼中的反對派，田漢在獄中作詞，聶耳寫好曲譜後要流亡到已侵佔長城以北的敵國日本，結果在當地意外溺死。
TIAN Han and NIE Er were actually in the opposition in the eyes of the Government at that time . TIAN Han wrote the lyrics in prison . After composing the score NIE Er had to flee to Japan the enemy state which had invaded the north of the Great Wall and was accidentally drowned there in the end
抗日戰爭後，"義勇軍進行曲"更一度被當時的國民政府列為禁歌，直至中華人民共和國成立後才定為臨時國歌。
After the Anti - Japanese War March of the Volunteers was even banned by the then Kuomintang Government . It was not until the establishment of the Peoples Republic of China that it was adopted as the provisional national anthem
"義勇軍進行曲"作為國歌的重重波折，以及田漢後來的悲慘經歷大家都知道，他後來遭到批鬥，甚至被指為叛徒，最後在獄中慘死反映了現代中國一段不應被忘懷的歷史。
The twists and turns of March of the Volunteers as the national anthem as well as the subsequent tragic experience of TIAN Han―as we all know he was later subjected to scathing criticisms was even accused of being a traitor and died a tragic death in prison in the end―reflect a piece of modern Chinese history which should not be forgotten
因此，國歌教育應該是全面、多層次的，我 相信這樣會比單一的情感灌輸，更能讓學生對"義勇軍進行曲"有更深刻的認識。
Hence education on the national anthem should be comprehensive and multi - faceted . Compared with one - sided indoctrination I believe students will have deeper knowledge of March of the Volunteers in this way
主席，我剛才提到，國歌應該受到尊重，但在立法時必須保障市民的人權和自由不受侵犯，這兩個原則必須相輔相成，亦是"一國兩制"的重要體現。
Chairman just now I said that the national anthem should be respected . However during legislation it is imperative to protect peoples rights and freedom from infringement . These two principles must complement each other
《條例草案》其中一個較具爭議之處，是第7條有關"侮辱"的定義。
It is also an important manifestation of one country two systems . One of the more controversial points in the Bill is the definition of insult in clause 7
在這次的修正案中，陳志全議員、梁繼昌議員和胡志偉議員共有5項修正案涉及侮辱行為的罪行。
Among the amendments Mr CHAN Chi - chuen Mr Kenneth LEUNG and Mr WU Chi - wai have proposed a total of five amendments regarding the offence of insulting behaviour
雖然《條例草案》有解釋，"侮辱就國歌而言，指損害國歌作為中華人民共和國的象徵和標誌的尊嚴"，但具體而言，侮辱包括甚麼行為？
Despite the explanation in the Bill that insult in relation to the national anthem means to undermine the dignity of the national anthem as a symbol and sign of the Peoples Republic of China specifically what behaviours does insult include?
哪些不屬於侮辱範圍？
Which of them do not fall under the scope of insult?
現在的定義仍然太抽象和模糊。
The present definition is still too abstract and vague
我曾經在法案委員會會議上提出一些例子，例如"義勇軍進行曲"在歷史上曾經出現4個版本，包括電影"風雲兒女"的主題曲、現時的法定版本、文化大革命時期的版本，以及華國鋒主政時的版本。
I have cited some examples at the meeting of the Bills Committee . For instance there have been four versions of March of the Volunteers in the past namely the theme song of the film Children of Troubled Times the present statutory version the version during the Cultural Revolution and the one when HUA Guofeng was in power
若現在有人發布並非今天《條例草案》所採用的版本，是否屬"篡改國歌歌詞或國歌曲譜"呢？
If someone now publishes a version other than the one adopted by the Bill today does it amount to altering the lyrics or score of the national anthem?
若有人分析或批評現行國歌歌詞，或指曲調過時，認為應該要有更貼近時代的版本而自行編寫新歌詞或曲譜，建議中央政府接納，這些行為是否"意圖侮辱"呢？
Suppose someone analyses or comments on the current lyrics of the national anthem or criticizes the score for being outdated; considering that there should be a version which catches up with the times he rewrites the lyrics or composes the score anew and proposes them to the Central Government . Are these behaviours with intent to insult the national anthem?
遺憾的是，政府只簡單地以"視乎每宗個案的實際情況作考慮"來回應。
Regrettably the Government simply responded that it would be assessed based on the actual circumstances of each case
如果條文的定義不夠嚴謹，會否導致執法人員採用的標準不一，甚至可能會出現選擇性執法呢？
If the provisions are not strictly defined will it lead to inconsistency in the criteria adopted by enforcement officers or even selective enforcement?
主席，作為教育界的代表，我當然十分關注《條例草案》對學校的影響。
Chairman being a representative of the education sector I am certainly very concerned about the impact of the Bill on schools
我十分關注《條例草案》中所謂"指示"的定義和實際效力，因為過去教育局向學校傳達政策內容和細則安排的時候，一般是由常任秘書長而非局長發出文件，而我們通常稱有關文件為"通告"而非《條例草案》所說的"指示"。
I am gravely concerned about the definition and actual effect of the directions referred to in the Bill because in the past when the Education Bureau briefed the schools about a policy and details of the arrangements usually a document would be issued by the Permanent Secretary rather than the Secretary . The relevant documents in general are known as circulars rather than directions as stated in the Bill
因此，我十分關注如果在校園範圍出現懷疑或有人指稱有侮辱國歌行為，教職員應該怎樣處理呢？
Hence I am very concerned how the teaching staff should handle the matter if there is any suspected or alleged act of insulting the national anthem on campus
政府當局曾回應，學校應按校本管理精神處理在校內刻意侮辱國歌的行為。
The Administration responded that schools should handle any act of intentionally insulting the national anthem within the school premises according to the spirit of school - based management
在哪種情況可以自行處理，在哪種情況需要報警，則與處理校內其他行為問題沒有大分別。
As regards under which circumstances a case should be handled by the school or reported to the Police it is more or less the same as the way of handling other behavioural issues on campus
但是，這種答覆非常模棱兩可。
However such a reply is rather ambiguous
過去學校報警的原因，大部分是偷竊、食物中毒、打架等，涉及人身財產的傷害。
In the past reasons for schools filing reports with the Police were mostly theft food poisoning fistfight etc which involved physical harm or damage to property
可是，疑似侮辱國歌並不涉及人身財產的傷害，而且要知道當事人的意圖。
Yet suspected insult to the national anthem does not involve such harm or damage . Moreover knowledge of the intent of the person in question is required
現時是否有足夠指引或準則，可以令教職員作出相關判斷？
Now are there enough guidelines or criteria which enable the teaching staff to make the relevant judgment?
這是一個很大的疑問。
This is highly doubtful
政府又指，凡可被其他人觀察到的場合，也有可能成為公開場合，這樣是否意味着學校畢業禮、開放日或露天操場上的集會也是所謂"公開場所"？
The Government also indicated that any occasion which could be observed by other people might be construed as a public occasion . Does it imply that graduation ceremonies open days and assemblies on open playgrounds in schools are also what is called public occasions?
如果有人指控有學生在這些場合侮辱國歌，屆時學校是否可以自行處理？
If someone makes an accusation that some students have insulted the national anthem on such an occasion can the school handle it by itself?
如果因有人舉報而警方到校調查，這些調查工作會否為學校的日常教學工作帶來不必要的負面影響？
If someone lodges a complaint and the Police thus go to the school to investigate will the investigation work bring any unnecessary adverse impact on the daily teaching work in the school?
我必須強調，教育局發出怎樣的指示，對學校的日常教育工作影響至深。
I must emphasize that the direction issued by the Education Bureau will have a profound impact on the daily educational work of the schools
它可以成為輔助老師教育學生的工具，亦可以成為擾亂教育工作的武器。
It may become a tool assisting teachers in educating students or a weapon disrupting educational work
教育局表示要待《條例草案》立法完成後才會制訂相關的指示，我不明白為何要等待，希望政府能夠就我剛才代表教育界提出的關注作出回應，亦可以把指示具體地寫出來。
As advised by the Education Bureau the relevant directions will not be formulated until the legislative exercise of the Bill has been completed . I do not understand why we have to wait . I hope the Government can respond to the concerns raised by me just now on behalf of the education sector and set out the directions specifically in writing
主席，學校現時一般有教授國歌，也有在學校不同場合奏唱國歌。
At present Chairman schools have in general taught the national anthem and will play and sing the national anthem on different occasions
香港一向的習慣是，學校課程是由香港課程發展議會的相關文件規定，並非由法律規定。
According to the usual practice in Hong Kong curriculums are bound by the relevant papers of the Hong Kong Curriculum Development Council rather than the law
不少教師對於以立法方式要求學校教授國歌表示質疑，超過七成教師擔心立法後會容易誤墮法網。
Quite a number of teachers raised queries about requiring schools to teach the national anthem by legislation . Over 70 % of the teacher respondents worried that they might break the law inadvertently
最後，在2,700多位會員中，支持《條例草案》的有兩成二，反對的超過七成三，態度十分清晰。
Lastly of the 2 700 - odd members surveyed 22 % supported the Bill while more than 73 % opposed it . Their stand was quite clear
主席，我們這時討論《條例草案》的立法問題，很大程度上也受到社會環境變化的影響。
Chairman to a large extent our current discussion about the legislative issues of the Bill is affected by changes in the social environment
社會環境令市民對政府的執法欠缺信心和信任，我想這就是很多人反對今次立法的最大原因之一。
In light of the social environment members of the public lack confidence and trust in the Governments law enforcement . I think this is one of the main reasons why many people oppose this legislative exercise
本來在正常的情況下，我們應該尊重國歌，這是很多人也同意的。
Originally under normal circumstances we should respect the national anthem . Many people agree with this
要大家尊重國歌，是很容易理解的，但在現時如此對立、撕裂的社會環境中，政府涉及政治及意識形態的舉動，以立法、懲罰的方式來處理問題，會受到市民不少質疑。
The call for respect for the national anthem is understandable . However in the present confrontational and divisive social environment if the Government makes any moves involving politics and ideology dealing with problems by legislation and punishment it will be called into question by members of the public
所以，我們現時面對的問題不單是《條例草案》的立法問題，更重要的是整個社會能否正本清源，處理好本港的濫權、濫告等核心問題，以及如何令市民願意繼續與政府同行。
Therefore the problem faced by us now concerns not only the legislative issues of the Bill . More importantly it concerns whether the entire society can properly deal with the core problems in Hong Kong such as abuse of power and indiscriminate prosecution at root and how to convince members of the public to continue to connect with the Government
我們的確擔心rule of fear，擔心政府在管治過程中，利用法律嚇怕市民，包括把限聚令變成一種管制，以達致控制疫情以外的目的。
We are indeed apprehensive about the rule of fear worried that during its governance the Government will exploit the law to intimidate the public including turning the social gathering restrictions into a kind of control to achieve purposes other than containing the epidemic
大家也擔心不能再自由地表達意見，這些是我們要正面處理的問題。
We are also worried that we can no longer express our opinions freely . These are problems we need to squarely address
事實上，我剛才也提到，自從2019年施政報告公布後，有關茶果嶺村的項目其實這7公頃土地中超過三分之二是位於茶果嶺村我們已馬上於同年年中展開相關研究。
In fact I have also mentioned just now that subsequent to the delivery of the 2019 Policy Address we have immediately commissioned in mid - 2019 the relevant study on the project of Cha Kwo Ling Village―actually more than two thirds of the 7 hectares of land is situated in Cha Kwo Ling Village
我能答應柯議員的是，我們會回去看看各個環節中的每一步能否再加快一點，但我亦要跟柯議員說，其實能夠再加快的幅度有限，因為在香港推行土地規劃、準備土地發展的項目時，我們必須恪守一定的程序。
What I can promise Mr OR is that we will upon going back to our office explore the possibility of further speeding up to some extent each step in every aspect . That said I must also tell Mr OR that the room for further speeding up the work is in fact somewhat limited since we must adhere to certain procedures in the course of implementing land planning and preparing for land development projects in Hong Kong
代理主席，增加土地房屋供應當然重要，但同時亦不能忽視保育文物和文化。
Deputy President whilst it is certainly important to increase the supply of land and housing we must not ignore the conservation of cultural relics and culture at the same time
我聽到局長在主體答覆第三部分有關可行性研究的回應中，提到如何平衡發展需要及文物保育，即是透過規劃納入未來發展，而這部分給我的感覺就像是如何保護這些文物或建築物。
I heard the Secretary mention in part 3 of his main reply concerning the EFSs the approach to strike a balance between development needs and heritage conservation and that is to incorporate them in the future development through planning . It gives me the feeling that this is the approach to be adopted to protect these cultural relics or buildings
因此，我想問局長，在這個發展項目中，如何確保樓宇和整體規劃的設計能令新建項目融入這些受保護的文物之中，包括局長剛才提 及的羅氏大屋等？
Therefore may I ask the Secretary how they would ensure in this development project that the design of the buildings and the overall planning can integrate the newly built items into these protected cultural relics including the Law Mansion mentioned by the Secretary just now?
我直接回答謝議員，我剛才在主體答覆也提到，我們將會進行相關研究和評估。
Let me answer Mr TSE directly . Just as I have mentioned in my main reply earlier on we will conduct relevant studies and assessments
我想問局長關於將會在這3個地區收地的事宜，事實上，過去在新界寮屋區也有很多收地個案，所以有關的方法和賠償等都很清晰。
I would like to ask the Secretary about land resumption in these three areas . As a matter of fact there have been numerous land resumption cases relating to squatter areas in the New Territories in the past so matters like resumption methods and compensation are very clear
其實我們亦正在古洞北和粉嶺北收地，我不敢說這項工作一帆風順，但我們一直也能夠做到，希望當這數個市區寮屋 區的收地工作進入這個階段時，這項已放寬的安排我再次感謝立法會同意這項安排應該有助於在這數個寮屋區進行收地工作。
In fact we are also carrying out land resumption in Kwu Tung North and Fanling North . I dare not say that we are doing this smoothly without a hitch but we have managed to get the job done all along . I hope that when we reach the stage of land resumption in the several urban squatter areas this relaxed arrangement―I thank the Legislative Council again for endorsing this arrangement―should be helpful to the land resumption work in these squatter areas
我想了解一下，因為局長剛才提到房協的安置屋邨，洪水橋或新界東北的確有，但市區是沒有的。
I would like to have more details as the Secretary has mentioned the rehousing estates provided by HKHS just now . There are indeed such estates in Hung Shui Kiu or North East New Territories but there is none in the urban area
我們早前說過，啟德有一些土地會撥給房協建屋，當中部分單位便會作此用途。
We have mentioned earlier that some sites in Kai Tak would be allocated to HKHS for housing construction and some of the flats would be used for this purpose
如果我們能制訂有關發展區的區界和一些基本的參數，我現時希望可於2021年內或最遲於2022年進行凍結調查，這較我們以往的一些做法是提早了。
If we can draw up the boundary and some basic parameters of the development areas it is my hope at this point of time that the freezing surveys can be carried out in 2021 or in 2022 at the latest which is earlier than the time required when we adopted some other practices in the past
從另一個角度來看，政府一直以來都將寮屋列入清拆對象，但這是歷史問題，雖然我對港英年代的管治不太滿意，但政策上是解決了住屋問題。
From another perspective squatters have always been listed among the targets of clearance operations by the Government . Nevertheless this is a historical issue . Despite the fact that I am quite dissatisfied with the governance during the British Hong Kong era their policy has solved the housing problem
特區政府現時要解決住屋問題，同樣採用了清拆寮屋的手法，然後在用地上興建公屋。
The SAR Government has to tackle with the housing problem now and it has also adopted the approach of demolishing squatters and developing public rental housing on the sites
我要提醒局長，很多曾經在寮屋生活及長大的人，今天在社會上有一定的影響力，所以，局長能否從保育角度，保留一些寮屋，讓香港市民知道香港的發展過程？
I have to remind the Secretary that many of those who have lived and grown up in squatters have certain influence in society nowadays . Therefore can the Secretary retain some squatters from the perspective of conservation to enable Hong Kong people to know the development process of Hong Kong?
我們目前的做法，其實並非要清拆全港的寮屋區以作發展，而是相反，當我們有發展需要時，便會就某個發展項目進行清拆，剛才我曾提及一些補償安置的安排，在此不再重複。
Instead of demolishing all squatter areas in Hong Kong for development purpose in fact our current approach is to conduct clearance to make way for a particular development project when development needs arise . I have mentioned some compensation and rehousing arrangements earlier on hence I would not repeat them here
香港現時有數百個寮屋區，為何我們只發展這3個呢？
There are currently hundreds of squatter areas in Hong Kong why do we seek to develop these three of them only?
因為這些寮屋區的交通相對較為方便，並且鄰近一些高密度的公營房屋發展項目，而社區設施亦相對齊全。
It is because the transportation in these squatter areas is relatively more convenient and they are located near some high - density public housing developments with relatively more comprehensive community facilities
我簡短作補充，關於個別寮屋區將來是否要清拆的問題，其實須視乎香港長遠的發展需要，故此在現階段，政府不會預先說清楚未來的發展，以及決定要保留或清拆哪個寮屋區。
Let me further speak on it briefly . On the question of whether individual squatter areas will be demolished in the future it actually depends on the long - term development needs of Hong Kong . Therefore at this stage the Government would not make it clear the future development in advance and decide which squatter areas should be retained or demolished
我希望梁議員明白我們的立場。
I hope Mr LEUNG would understand our stance
主席，正如之前我在恢復二讀辯論時所說，我認為香港根本不需要、不應該訂立國歌法，當中最主要的原因是這個政權根本未曾尊重自己，永遠不會自省，無法得到人民的尊重。
Chairman as I said at the resumption of the Second Reading debate I think Hong Kong needs not and should not enact a national anthem law . The most important reason is that the regime has never respected itself never does any self - reflection and will never win the respect of the people . A draconian law will only give the authoritarian regime another weapon to persecute the people
美國和加拿大雖然要求國民尊重國歌，但即使違反要求，也沒有任何的罰則，這反映《條例草案》不合理。
The United States and Canada require their nationals to respect their national anthems but no penalty will be imposed on anyone who contravenes the requirement . This reflects that the Bill is unreasonable
主席，尊重國歌不等於要訂立國歌法，訂立國歌法不等於要將國歌法刑事化。
Chairman showing respect to the national anthem does not mean to enact a national anthem law and enacting a national anthem law does not mean to criminalize the national anthem law
我只能夠在此重申，政權利用嚴刑峻法，強行要求市民尊重國歌是不公義的。
I can only reiterate at this juncture that it is unjust for the regime to use a draconian law to force members of the public to respect the national anthem
因此，對於有民主派的議員提出修正案，以減輕《條例草案》的罰則，我雖然明白當中的美意，但原則上，極權政府要訂立一項能夠無限演繹的《條例草案》，都不應該被允許。
For this reason regarding amendments proposed by pro - democracy Members to mitigate the penalties under the Bill I would like to say that while I understand their good intention the enactment by an authoritarian government of a bill that can be arbitrarily interpreted should not be allowed in principle
接下來，我會就另一項我認為值得討論的修正案進行演繹。
Next I will elaborate on one amendment which I believe is worthy of discussion
陳志全議員就第9條提出修正案，要求教育局局長須發出指示，以教育學生國歌作詞人及作曲人的生平及死因。
Mr CHAN Chi - chuen has proposed an amendment to clause 9 to require the Secretary for Education to give directions to educate the students on the biography and cause of death of the lyricist and composer of the national anthem
《條例草案》第4部第9條規定，教育局局長須就國歌納入小學教育及中學教育發出指引：1使學生學習歌唱國歌；2以教育學生國歌的歷史和精神，以及奏唱國歌的禮儀。
Clause 9 of Part 4 of the Bill stipulates that the Secretary for Education must give directions for the inclusion of the national anthem in primary education and in secondary education 1 to enable the students to learn to sing the national anthem; and 2 to educate the students on the history and spirit of the national anthem and on the etiquette for playing and singing the national anthem