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整個機制是公平的，大家也可以就有關事項作出政治判斷，反映市民對我們的期望和意見。
The entire mechanism is fair . Members may make political judgments on the relevant case to reflect the publics expectations on us as well as public opinion
所以，如果你說法庭處理了便等於劃上句號，是絕對地錯、錯、錯。
It is therefore absolutely wrong for Members to say that a full stop should be put to the case since it has been dealt with by the Court
代理主席，我當然認同《基本法》第七十九條第七項中對"行為不檢"作出的定義並不清晰。
Deputy President I certainly agree that the definition of misbehaviour in Article 797 of the Basic Law is unclear
我很多謝梁美芬議員剛才介紹調查委員會的整份工作報告。
I am very grateful to Dr Priscilla LEUNG for introducing the entire report of the Investigation Committee
我十分多謝胡志偉議員提出有修改的必要。
I am grateful to Mr WU Chi - wai for suggesting the need to amend the Basic Law
就我個人的看法我也相信我的看法正確議員在決定贊成或反對的時候，除了要審視有關報告和法庭判決外，還要作出政治判斷。
From my personal point of view which I believe is correct in deciding to vote for or against the motion Members should make a political judgment in addition to studying the relevant report and the Courts judgment
但是，鄭松泰議員事後唯一做過的事情，就是諉過於人，反指這是一場政治鬥爭，更指控其他議員向大陸表忠，踐踏立法會的尊嚴，更表示會開壞先例。
The only thing Dr CHENG Chung - tai did after the incident was put the blame on someone and described the incident as a political struggle . What is more he accused other Members of pledging allegiance to the Mainland and trampled upon the dignity of the Legislative Council saying a bad precedent would thus be set
說到這一點，主席，我留意到他在針對何君堯議員的議案辯論中投了贊成票。
When it comes to this point President I note that he cast a supportive vote in the motion debate pinpointing Dr Junius HO
此外，他更在5月4日發給所有議員的信中當然不包括我在內仿效他的師傅多次形容自己為"本席"，態度極其傲慢。
Furthermore in a letter issued on 4 May and addressed to all Members except me he followed the example of his mentor and addressed himself repeatedly as 本席 in Chinese in a most arrogant manner
他接着又說不敢否認違反誓言，但否認行為不檢，因此應交由選民決定。
He then added that the matter should be decided by electors as he was not guilty of misbehaviour though he dared not deny breaching the oath
主席，剛才有很多位議員同事發言，稍後亦會有其他同事緊接發言。
President just now a number of Members have spoken . Other colleagues will speak later on
我希望大家在每次發言前也想一想，我們宣誓就任時的誓言內容，以及發生鄭松泰倒插國旗事件的原因。
I hope that each time before they speak they will think about the contents of the oaths taken when they assumed office and the causes of the incident of inverting the national flags by CHENG Chung - tai
我們在上任前會讀出以下誓言：本人就任中華人民共和國香港特別行政區的立法會議員，定當擁護《中華人民共和國香港特別行政區基本法》，效忠中華人民共和國香港特別行政區，盡忠職守。
Before we assume office we have to read out the oath as follows I swear that being a member of the Legislative Council of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the Peoples Republic of China I will uphold the Basic Law of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the Peoples Republic of China bear allegiance to the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the Peoples Republic of China and serve the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region conscientiously
在再次進行宣誓安排的時候，我們一群議員對於當天辱華和宣揚"港獨"的言論，感到十分憤慨。
At the time when the oath - taking was arranged once again we as Members were very angry with the remarks that insulted China and propagated Hong Kong independence on that day
我希望提醒本會同事，香港特別行政區是中華人民共和國的一部分，我們既要尊重香港特別行政區，也要尊重中華人民共和國。
I would like to remind Honourable colleagues of this Council that the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region HKSAR is a part of the Peoples Republic of China . Not only must we respect HKSAR we must also respect the Peoples Republic of China
很明顯，他當時有強烈意圖，如果沒有意圖或意識的話，他便不會一而再、再而三，不理勸阻也要走到其他議員的座位，把國旗和區旗倒插，侮辱我們的國家和特區政府。
It was obvious that he had a criminal intent at that time . If he did not have a criminal intent or guilty mind he would not have repeatedly gone over to the seats of other Members and insulted our country and the HKSAR Government by inverting the national flags and regional flags despite advice against it
他的行為實在令人感到痛心，也違反當天宣誓的誓言。
His conduct was most distressing . It was also in breach of the oath he had taken on the day he assumed office
梁、游二人由於違反誓言，因而被取消議員資格。
Sixtus LEUNG and YAU Wai - ching were disqualified from office due to breach of the oath
鄭松泰議員亦同樣應為他的行為付上責任。
Similarly Dr CHENG Chung - tai should be held responsible for his conduct
事實上，國旗和區旗是國家和香港的象徵。
As a matter of fact the national flag and the regional flag are symbols of the country and Hong Kong
根據《國旗及國徽條例》和《區旗及區徽條例》，任何人公開及故意請記着是公開及故意侮辱國旗或區旗，即屬犯法。
Under the National Flag and National Emblem Ordinance and the Regional Flag and Regional Emblem Ordinance a person who publicly and willfully―we must remember it sets out publicly and willfully―desecrates the national flag or the regional flag commits an offence
法庭於去年9月即我報警後進行審訊，裁定鄭松泰議員侮辱國旗及區旗罪成。
A trial was initiated by the Court last September after I had filed a report with the Police . Dr CHENG Chung - tai was convicted of desecrating the national flag and regional flag
裁判官當時明確指出，鄭松泰議員倒插國旗的行為，破壞國旗區旗的尊嚴，符合玷污國旗區旗的控罪元素，雖然他最後只被判罰款5,000元，但我尊重法庭的判決。
At that time the trial Magistrate clearly pointed out that Dr CHENG Chung - tais act of inverting the national flag had tarnished the dignity of the national flag and regional flag which complied with the element of the offence of defiling the national flag and regional flag . Although consequently he was only fined 5,000 I respect the judgment of the Court
但是，這5,000元罰款似乎未能發揮很好的警誡作用，因為鄭松泰在被判罰後多次表示這只是一宗政治事件，他甚至認為這只是一宗小事，這是絕對不能容忍的。
Nevertheless it seemed that the fine of 5,000 was not successful in achieving a warning effect . After the sentence was handed down CHENG Chung - tai has repeatedly indicated that this is only a political incident . He even holds that this is a trivial matter
作為立法會議員，鄭松泰議員的一言一行，應該為社會公眾起着一個表率作用。
This is absolutely intolerable . As a Member of the Legislative Council Dr CHENG Chung - tais words and conduct should set an example for the general public
他也應自覺地維護立法會和特區的尊嚴。
He should also take the initiative to uphold the dignity of the Legislative Council and HKSAR
但是，他當天的行為透過網絡直播和傳媒報道，對社會造成嚴重的不良影響。
However through the online live broadcast and media reports his conduct on that day has caused significant adverse impacts on the community
他的行徑更在內地瘋傳，很多人都對香港議會出現這種行為感到痛心，而且對社會造成嚴重的不良影響。
His conduct has even been widely circulated on the Internet in the Mainland . Many people are distressed that such an act had taken place in the Legislative Council of Hong Kong causing significant adverse impacts on society
這宗事件既然在立法會裏發生，本會理應亦有必要公開給公眾一個交代，透過今次譴責議案讓社會知道甚麼是對錯，以及不能逾越的底線，這是議會應負起的責任。
Since the incident took place in the Legislative Council it is justifiable and necessary for the Council to give an account to the general public . By moving the censure motion the Council will be able to convey to the public what is right and wrong as well as the bottom line that must not be crossed . This is the responsibility of the Council
有部分反對派同事指出，既然法庭已經作出判決，立法會不應進行第二次審判，但我認為這個說法根本有問題。
Some colleagues of the opposition camp pointed out that since the court has made its judgment Dr CHENGs conduct should not be tried a second time by the Legislative Council . I hold that something is wrong with this claim
所以，我認為立法會絕對應該跟進此事。
For this reason I hold that the Legislative Council should absolutely follow the matter up
我們不應採取不同準則處理這類事件，否則我們便很容易犯了某些議員口中常說的"搬龍門"及採用雙重標準的毛病。
We should not adopt different criteria in handling such incidents . Otherwise we would have easily made the mistakes often referred to by certain Members and that is moving the goalposts and adopting double standards
主席，社會上近年不斷出現關於"一國兩制"的討論，而且有人不時以出位的言行，挑戰"一國兩制"甚至是國家主權。
President discussions concerning one country two systems have continued to emerge in the community in recent years . Some people have frequently used unorthodox views and behaviour to challenge one country two systems and even the sovereignty of the country
反對派同事每次都以言論自由包庇這類行為，又可能說"我不太同意他的行為"或"我對這種行為感到有點遺憾，不過......
Our colleagues of the opposition camp have used the pretext of freedom of speech on every occasion to harbour such behaviour . They may say I do not quite support such behaviour or I find such behaviour regrettable but
"，總之搬出言論自由等理由。
Anyway they will advance various reasons such as freedom of speech etc
香港社會和大專校園最近也出現了很多鼓吹"港獨"的標語，以及種種涉及人身攻擊的侮辱性言詞。
Many slogans advocating Hong Kong independence and various insulting expressions involving personal attacks have been found recently in tertiary institutions and the community in Hong Kong
種種跡象的源頭，在立法會似乎也有跡可尋。
The sources of such trends can also be found in the Legislative Council
如果本會在出現這類行為時不加以制止，或作出適當的跟進或懲處，我相信社會將要付出更大的代價。
I believe if such behaviour is not stopped or appropriate follow - up actions and punishments are not imposed when they emerge in this Council society will pay an even greater price
例如，有數名人士因參與佔領旺角行動即所謂"魚蛋革命" 而被判刑，而且刑罰不輕，對社會來說，可說是血的教訓。
For instance several persons were convicted and sentenced for taking part in the Occupy Mong Kok movement―the so - called fishball revolution . The penalties were by no means light . Insofar as society is concerned this is a lesson of blood
這也是因為我們過去沒有對某些違法行為加以譴責，以致有人認為沒有甚麼大不了，甚至以為沒有問題，最多只會被社會人士譴責或法庭警告。
Owing to the fact that certain illegal acts were not censured by us in the past some people believed as a result that it was no big deal at all and would not cause serious consequences―at the most to be condemned by the community or warned by the Court only
我們真的忍心看到這麼多青年人因這些煽動行為或"有樣學樣"而被重罰或監禁數年，因此失去及付出數年的自由和代價嗎？
Can we really bear to see so many young people being subject to heavy penalties or imprisonment of several years due to these acts of incitement or copycat acts to the extent of losing several years of freedom and paying a dear price?
香港理工大學已經表明，基於鄭松泰有關行為的嚴重性及法庭作出的判決，決定不與他續約，並且強調這項決定不但恰當，而且符合 大學的利益。
The Hong Kong Polytechnic University has already indicated clearly that due to the severity of the relevant conduct of CHENG Chung - tai and the judgment handed down by the Court they will not renew his contract . The University has also emphasized that this decision is not only appropriate but also in the interest of the University
香港受法律及"一國兩制"保障，香港市民同樣有義務尊重"一國兩制"，遵守法律和底線。
While Hong Kong is protected by the law and the principle of one country two systems Hong Kong people have the obligation to respect the principle of one country two systems abide by the law and its bottom line
無論議員的託辭怎樣華麗，也不能成為侮辱國家、破壞"一國兩制"及違反法律的藉口。
However rhetorical the excuse of the Member is it should not become a pretext for insulting the country undermining one country two systems and breaching the law
面對社會種種亂象，立法會有必要採取實際行動，正本清源。
In the face of the present chaos in society the Legislative Council must take practical actions to address the problem at root
最重要的是，我們必須尊重制度，以事論事，分清事實輕重，不偏不倚地作出與事件嚴重性相稱的決定。
The most important point is we must respect the system deal with the issue in a matter - of - fact manner differentiate the important facts from the less important ones and make a decision commensurate with the seriousness of the incident with impartiality
主席，今次鄭松泰議員被譴責的行為非常清楚和簡單，他自己亦直認不諱。
President Dr CHENG Chung - tais conduct to be censured this time around is very clear and simple . He himself has also frankly admitted it
他在2016年10月19日立法會會議期間，在會議廳再三倒插民主建港協進聯盟議員席上的國旗和區旗，這件事不但令涉事議員甚為憤怒，連其他建制派議員和社會大眾也感到譁然和 不可接受。
At the Council meeting on 19 October 2016 he had more than once inverted the national flags and regional flags displayed at the seats of Members of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB . This incident did not only infuriate the Members involved but also induced an outrage among other Members of the pro - establishment camp as well as the general public who considered this unacceptable
鄭松泰議員事後因此被控兩項公開及故意以玷污方式侮辱國旗及區旗罪，兩項控罪均被裁定成立。
Subsequently Dr CHENG Chung - tai was charged with two counts of desecrating the national flag and the regional flag by publicly and wilfully defiling them . He was found guilty of both charges
主席，國旗代表着其國家和人民，我們的區旗代表着香港特區和市民。
President while the national flag represents the country and the people our regional flag represents the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region HKSAR and the residents . These symbolic meanings are internationally recognized
主席，提到調查委員會，剛才反對派楊岳橋議員斷言這個調查委員會清一色由建制派議員組成，意味這份報告是建制派閉門造車的結果。
I had attended the hearings as well as submitted written statements . President talking about IC just now Mr Alvin YEUNG of the opposition camp asserted that IC was purely comprised of Members from the pro - establishment camp implying that its report was the result of the pro - establishment camp working behind closed doors
我曾出席調查委員會的研訊，根據我個人經驗，調查委員會處事是嚴謹的，我在宣誓後也直說我所知的事情，並無虛言。
According to my personal experience IC had adopted a stringent attitude in discharging its duties . After taking the oath I had also recounted all that I knew . What I said was nothing but the truth
基於上述理由，我毫無懸念支持這項議案，對鄭松泰議員的行為不檢予以譴責。
Based on these reasons I have no hesitation in supporting this motion to censure the misbehaviour of Dr CHENG Chung - tai
有反對派議員指出，這種處分跟鄭松泰議員所作的行為不相稱。
A Member of the opposition camp has pointed out that this punishment is not commensurate with the conduct of Dr CHENG Chung - tai
這種說法出自其他人的口還可說得過去，但出自反對派議員之口卻令人感到心寒，亦反映出他們的虛偽。
It would be understandable had this remark been made by other people . However I can feel a chill down my spine when it is made by a Member of the opposition camp . This also reflects their hypocrisy
君不見何君堯議員只是說了一句"殺無赦"，便招來反對派議員試圖利用同一種方式作出處分？
Members of the opposition camp have attempted to adopt the same method to seek punishment of Dr Junius HO when he used the phrase kill without mercy
如果一個地方的立法機關對其成員侮辱自己的國家、本土和其代表的人民也可視作等閒、一笑置之，立法會的莊嚴和公眾形象何在？
If a Member of the legislature insults his own country region and people he represents and the legislature of the place treats the matter lightly and dismisses it with a laugh then what happens to the solemn public image of the legislature?
《基本法》第七十九條提供機制處理對於議員"行為不檢或違反誓言"的懲處。
Article 79 of the Basic Law provides a mechanism to deal with the punishment of a Member for his misbehaviour or breach of oath
如果大家尊重機制，看重立法會作為憲制機關的莊嚴形象，重視誓言，尊重自己的國家和本土，均應支持按此機制對鄭松泰議員的相關行為不檢予以譴責。
If we respect the mechanism take the solemn image of the Legislative Council as the constitutional authority seriously attach importance to the oath respect our own country and region we should support censuring the misbehaviour of Dr CHENG Chung - tai in accordance with this mechanism
不過，自香港回歸後，不少立法會議員在宣誓時做show、裝模作樣、"搞鬼"，程度一次較一次嚴重。
However since the reunification many Members of the Legislative Council have regarded oath - taking as a time for staging a show making pretences and employing various gimmicks . The gravity of their acts has been getting more and more serious
最嚴重的一次，便是今屆立法會梁、游二人作出"播獨"、辱華等令人髮指的行為，導致部分議員需要在其後的立法會會議，即2016年10月19日的會議上作第二次宣誓。
The most serious act was the one in the current term of the Legislative Council when Sixtus LEUNG and YAU Wai - ching committed acts of spreading independenism and insulting China . Such outrageous acts resulted in the second oath - taking of some Members at the subsequent Legislative Council meeting on 19 October 2016
不過，我們做了我們應該做的事，便是透過手段阻止梁、游二人再次宣誓，防止他們再褻瀆我們的國家和特區。
However we had done what we should do and that is we employed some tactics to stop Sixtus LEUNG and YAU Wai - ching from taking the oath for the second time with a view to preventing them from defiling our country and the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region HKSAR again
就在那個時候，鄭松泰議員可能不甘寂寞，因為他是激進派，害怕鏡頭冷落他。
It was at that time that Dr CHENG Chung - tai might have been unwilling to be left out in the cold . As he is a member of the radical camp he was afraid that he would be left out of the limelight
為了吸引注意，他便把11位議員放在桌子上的國旗和區旗倒插。
In order to attract attention he inverted the national flags and regional flags on the desks of 11 Members
當然，有反對派同事為他護短，認為鄭松泰已經在法庭上"找數"了，負上了刑事責任，為何建制派還要在立法會跟進呢？
Of course some colleagues of the opposition camp have tried to shield his wrongdoing . They hold that CHENG Chung - tai had already paid the price at the Court by being held criminally liable and ask why the pro - establishment camp has to follow this up in the Legislative Council
因為立法會議員是莊嚴的公職，代表市民立法；而會議廳亦不是一般的地方，當天的會議廳更是宣誓的場合，應要加倍隆而重之對待。
This is because the position of a Member of the Legislative Council is a solemn public office enacting law on behalf of the people . The Chamber is also not a common place . On that day the Chamber was the venue of oath - taking thus it should be all the more cherished and respected
再者，議員亦有較市民更重大的責任。
Further Members have greater responsibilities than members of the public
因此，我們有責任在議會中把這股邪氣和歪風撥亂反正。
Therefore we are duty - bound to rectify the perverse practice and undesirable trend in the Council
我十分支持也很感謝謝偉俊議員根據《議事規則》第49B條動議譴責鄭松泰的議案。
I support and thank Mr Paul TSE for moving a motion under Rule 49B1A of the Rules of Procedure to censure CHENG Chung - tai
調查委員會成立後我亦立即加入，為市民發聲，因為市民也看不過眼，竟然有立法者公然侮辱國旗和區旗，怎不令人感到氣憤呢？
I joined the Investigation Committee IC immediately after it had been set up with a view to speaking for the public . Members of the public have found it unacceptable that a lawmaker had actually publicly desecrated the national flag and regional flag . How can people not feel infuriated?
調查委員會經過多次會議，很客觀地深入討論鄭松泰的行為有否構成《基本法》第七十九條第七項所指的違反誓言及行為不儉。
IC held a number of meetings to conduct objective and in - depth discussions about whether CHENG Chung - tais conduct constitutes breach of oath and misbehaviour under Article 797 of the Basic Law
就違反誓言這一點，鄭松泰於立法會作出宣誓時，承諾：第一，定當擁護《基本法》；第二，效忠中華人民共和國和香港特別行政區。
With respect to the allegation of breach of oath when CHENG Chung - tai took the oath at the Legislative Council he had pledged to first uphold the Basic Law; second bear allegiance to the HKSAR of the Peoples Republic of China
但他之後的行為正正體現出他與梁、游是一丘之貉，根本不是真心擁護國家和《基本法》。
However his subsequent conduct has reflected precisely that he is in the same gang and of the same ilk of Sixtus LEUNG and YAU Wai - ching . Basically they do not genuinely uphold the Basic Law and the country
鄭松泰倒插國旗的行為清楚顯示，他不尊重國家和香港。
CHENG Chung - tais act of inverting the national flag has clearly demonstrated that he does not respect the country and Hong Kong
由此可見，鄭松泰所作的立法會誓言所蘊含的承諾，就在他倒插和玷污國旗的一刻，被他完全違背了。
It is clear that the moment CHENG Chung - tai inverted and desecrated the national flag he had completely breached the pledge made by him in the Legislative Council Oath
這完全體現鄭松泰"發誓當吃生菜"、沒有政治誠信的本質，與梁、游是一丘之貉。
This has fully reflected CHENG Chung - tais attitude of regarding the oath - taking as no big deal and his nature of a lack of political integrity . He is in the same gang and of the same ilk of Sixtus LEUNG and YAU Wai - ching
至於行為不檢方面，即使鄭松泰作為立法會議員，也不等於他的自由不受限制，不等於他可以任意妄為。
With respect to the allegation of misbehavour even though CHENG Chung - tai is a Member of the Legislative Council it does not mean that his freedom is unrestrained or he can do whatever he wants
鄭松泰在立法會的議事廳內，沒有理會蔣麗芸議員的勸諭和主席的警告，一而再倒插國旗和區旗。
On that day in the Chamber of the Legislative Council CHENG Chung - tai had ignored the advice of Dr CHIANG Lai - wan and the warning of the President and inverted the national flags and regional flags more than once
在調查委員會發表報告時，甚至現時這一刻，鄭松泰也從來沒有就他的行為作出認真和誠懇的道歉。
After IC had published its report and even up till now CHENG Chung - tai has offered no apologies for his conduct in a serious and sincere manner . The series of his acts have indicated that he remains unrepentant and has not conducted any self - reflection
他一連串的行為，既無悔意，亦無反省，完全是詭辯連篇，文過飾非，砌詞狡辯，令立法會的聲譽受到嚴重的損害。
He has only resorted to all kinds of sophistry glossed over his mistakes and covered up his wrongdoings made up all sorts of lame excuses which will result in the reputation of the Legislative Council being adversely affected and jeopardized
他曾為教育工作者，那樣的行為更"教壞"孩童，誤人子弟，有負市民對立法會議員的行為準則所有的非常高期望。
He had worked in the education profession before . This kind of conduct will set a bad example for young people and lead them astray . He has also conducted himself in such a way that is contrary to the high expectation of the public in respect of the standard of conduct of a Legislative Council Member
因此，實際上，他的行為貶損了立法會在市民心中的形象，已經構成行為不檢。
So his conduct has in effect derogated the image of the Legislative Council in the community which already constitutes misbehaviour
立法會議員的職責是好好監察政府，為市民做好立法和把關工作，為市民做實事，改善民生，審批政府的財政撥款申請，每個事項均要非常謹慎地進行。
The responsibilities of a Legislative Council Member include monitoring the Government properly enacting laws and playing the role of gate - keeping on behalf of the people doing practical work to serve the people improving peoples livelihood and scrutinizing funding applications submitted by the Government . We have to discharge each responsibility in a very careful manner
坦白說，鄭松泰進入立法會1年多，他有甚麼"代表作"？
Frankly speaking CHENG Chung - tai has joined the Council for more than a year now what is the masterpiece of his work?
其實，他過去教授社會科學及政治，應該十分明白這些基本的政治倫理才對。
As a matter of fact he used to teach social sciences and politics he should clearly understand these basic political ethics
他自己沒有好好尊重法治和議會，反而做一些小丑式的表演，表演畢卻不承擔責任，"帶頭盔"，轉移視線。
He has not respected the rule of law and the Council in a proper manner instead he has engaged in some clownish shows . And after the show is finished he has refused to be liable for it . He is acting chicken and trying to divert peoples attention
因此，法庭雖然已為市民伸張公義，判鄭松泰有罪，但我們作為立法會議員，同樣背負市民的期望，同樣有責任捍衞立法會的尊嚴。
Therefore despite the fact that the Court has already upheld justice on behalf of the people and convicted CHENG Chung - tai we as Members of the Legislative Council who similarly carry expectations of the people on our shoulders have the similar responsibility of defending the dignity of the Legislative Council
因此，我在此不單向建制派的議員呼籲，亦向所有議員包括泛民議員呼籲，他們要當機立斷，向這種歪風說不，向這些不尊重和 侮辱國旗、國徽和區旗的行為說不。
Therefore I call on not only Members of the pro - establishment camp but also all Members―including the pan - democratic Members―to act decisively say no to this kind of undesirable trend and say no to these acts of disrespecting and desecrating the national flag national emblem and regional flag
主席，我謹此陳辭，支持譴責鄭松泰的議案。
President I so submit . I support the motion to censure CHENG Chung - tai
主席，我懇請議員反對張超雄議員動議的各組修正案。
Chairman I implore Members to vote against the groups of amendments proposed by Dr Fernando CHEUNG
主席，我需要簡單澄清兩點。
Chairman I must clarify two points
第一，區諾軒議員和梁耀忠議員沒有聽清楚昨天當陳志全議員發言後我澄清的一點。
First Mr AU Nok - hin and Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung did not hear clearly the point I clarified after Mr CHAN Chi - chuens speech yesterday
或許我再澄清一次：當政府接受了勞工顧問委員會的共識後，這個就是政府的立場。
Let me clarify once again after the Government has accepted the consensus of the Labour Advisory Board LAB it becomes the Governments stance
張超雄議員提出共3組修正案。
Dr Fernando CHEUNG has proposed three groups of amendments
我懇請各位議員留意，根據《僱傭條例》第VIA部，僱員如遭不合理及不合法解僱，僱員可於被解僱後9個月內向勞審處提出補救申索。
I implore Members to take note that according to Part VIA of the Employment Ordinance if an employee is unreasonably and unlawfully dismissed heshe may make a claim for remedies with the Labour Tribunal within nine months after the dismissal
換言之，僱員可於被解僱後9個月內的任何一天提出他/她有意獲得復職或再次聘用。
In other words an employee may make hisher wish to be reinstated or re - engaged known on any day within nine months after the dismissal
故此，張議員的修正案要求僱主在解僱僱員一段時間後，而期間未有得聞該僱員有意獲得復職或再次聘用，才可聘請替代員工，會引致運作上的實質困難。
As such by demanding the employer to engage a replacement only after the lapse of a certain period without having heard from the employee the wish to be reinstated or re - engaged Dr CHEUNGs amendments will incur practical operational difficulties
僱主已聘請替代僱員這一事實，會否令僱主將僱員復職或再次聘用僱員變得不切實可行，應由法院或勞審處按個別案例的案情裁定。
Whether the employers engagement of a replacement has made it not practicable for the employer to reinstate or re - engage the dismissed employee should be ruled by the court or Labour Tribunal based on the individual circumstances of each case
在法院或勞審處作出命令之前，僱主和僱員都有機會提出他們的論點。
Before the court or Labour Tribunal makes an order both the employer and the employee have the chance to present their arguments
因此，由法院或勞審處於裁定僱主將僱員復職或再次聘用僱員是否合理地切實可行時所須考慮的情況，理應廣泛全面，我們認為過分具體的要求並不合理。
Hence the circumstances that the court or Labour Tribunal should take into consideration in deciding whether it is reasonably practicable for the employer to reinstate or re - engage the employee should be extensive and comprehensive . We consider it unreasonable to set down excessively specific conditions
張議員的修正案要僱主證明如果不聘用替代僱員並不切實可行，這項要求是過分的。
Dr CHEUNGs amendments require the employer to show that it is not practicable for the employer not to engage a replacement