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這種語言暴力所造成的衝擊，不會隨着時間而沖淡。
The impacts brought by such verbal violence will not fade as time passes
我認為今天仍然應該引用《議事規則》第49B條，成立專責調查委員會，看看何君堯議員的行為和言論是否恰當。
Hence I am of the view that a select committee should still be established under Rule 491A of the Rules of Procedure RoP today in order to find out if Dr Junius HO has been carrying himself properly both in words and deeds
代理主席，何君堯議員的言論，令我們十分擔心，他已經觸犯《公安條例》第17B條和第26條。
Deputy President we worried so much about Dr HOs remarks and he has already violated sections 17B and 26 of the Public Order Ordinance
其中第17B條清楚訂明，任何人在公眾聚集中作出擾亂秩序行為，使用辱罵性或侮辱性的言詞，煽惑他人，即屬犯罪，可處監禁12個月。第26條訂明，任何人在公眾聚集中，倡議使用暴力，殺死任何人，或傷害他們的身體，可處監禁2年。
Section 17B expressly provides that any person who in any public place behaves in a disorderly manner or uses abusive or insulting words with intent to provoke others shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable to imprisonment for 12 months while section 26 clearly stipulates that any person who at any public gathering incites or induces others to kill or do physical injury to any person shall be liable to imprisonment for 2 years
但是，何議員除了是議員之外，還是一名律師，也曾經是香港律師會的前會長，所以，他應該十分清楚法例條文。
However Dr HO is not just a Member of this Council he is also a lawyer and a former President of The Law Society of Hong Kong . Thus he should be conversant with the relevant legal provisions
代理主席，我記得毛孟靜議員上次在內務委員會上提出這項譴責議案時，立刻引起不少建制派議員的反對，包括何君堯議員本人。
Deputy President I still recall that when this censure motion was proposed last time by Ms Claudia MO at the meeting of the House Committee it was met with opposition from quite a large number of pro - establishment Members including Dr Junius HO himself
他們均認為這項議案十分無聊，會浪費議會資源和時間。
They all considered this motion a rather vague one which was only meant to waste the time and resources of this Council
他又表示，雖然大家政見不一，也應該放下成見，以香港整體利益為依歸，多做實事。
He also noted in the letter that we should set aside prejudices and take a pragmatic approach to work in the overall interest of Hong Kong despite that our views on political affairs are divided
此外，由於現時議會內的非建制派議員減少，他們便不惜將很多事項推遲，以期先通過修改《議事規則》。
What is more as the number of pro - establishment Members in this Council has dwindled they seek to defer the handling of various Council matters at all costs in an attempt to secure passage of certain proposed amendments to the RoP
這種做法又是否為了香港的整體利益？
Can this kind of approach be regarded as working in the overall interest of Hong Kong?
又是否十分珍惜我們議會的時間呢？
Or can this help prove that they really cherish the Councils meeting time?
大家心中有數，如果真的一如我剛才所說，是善用時間和為市民謀福祉，又怎會做出上述的行為呢？
Well we all know the answers . Just as what I have told just now how would they have done those things mentioned above if they really mean to make good use of the Councils time as well as work for the good and general welfare of the Hong Kong people?
所以，我真的很感謝何議員這麼關注立法會的議會工作，我想在此澄清，可能何議員和部分建制派議員由始至終也認為我、毛孟靜議員和其他和議的民主派議員是出於對何議員的個人有成見，或有政見上的成見而提出譴責議案，所以敦促我們多做實事，不要再浪費時間，不要花心機譴責他。
And so I really feel thankful towards Dr HO for being so concerned about the Councils work . I would like to make clarification here . Maybe right from the beginning Dr HO and some of the pro - establishment Members opine that the censure motion was moved due to the personal or political prejudice held against Dr HO by me and Ms Claudia MO as well as other pan - democratic Members who support the motion
事實上，我希望何議員明白，我們絕非如此，我們提出及和議譴責議案的原因，是基於何議員公開鼓吹殺人和煽動暴力的言論，已超越他作為立法會議員的道德和專業底線，破壞議會尊嚴，甚至令議會蒙羞，破壞公眾對立法機關和議員的信心。
Actually I just hope that Dr HO will understand that this is by no means the case . The reason for our proposing and seconding the censure motion lies in the fact that Dr HOs public remarks advocating killing and inciting violence has contravened the moral code and code of professional conduct of Members of this Council . As a result the legislatures dignity is damaged while the Council itself may even have to suffer humiliation thus undermining public confidence in the legislature and its Members
當議員的言行已經超出或超越道德和專業底線，有很多市民表示不滿、不安，並質疑何議員是否仍適合擔任服務社會的立法會議員時，我們應否運用議會的資源，合理地使用一些時間，並按立法會既有機制來進行調查？
Discontent and inquietude among quite a large numbers of members of the public were triggered as the words and deeds of a Member of ours has contravened both the moral code and code of professional conduct . The queried whether Dr HO is still fit to act as a legislator serving the community . Given the above should we not make use of the Councils resources and spend a reasonable amount of time to conduct investigations under the established mechanism of this Council?
我們應還市民信心，同時維護議員的形象，以及議員最低限度應遵循的底線。
We ought to restore public confidence Meanwhile we have to protect the professional image of legislators and hold fast to the most fundamental principles set for Members of this Council
更何況，已有市民就這事件向警方報案，相關的案件已交由港島總區的刑事部跟進。
What is more some members of the public have already made a report to the police in respect of the incident and the case concerned is referred to the criminal investigation unit of the Hong Kong Island Regional Police Headquarters for follow - up
此外，香港律師公會也接獲投訴，公會表示會有專責人員跟進和調查這事件。
Moreover The Law Society of Hong Kong said that dedicated officers are tasked to follow and investigate the incident upon receiving the relevant
另一方面，香港嶺南大學的學生也發起聯署促請何君堯議員辭去校董一職，要求校方徹查。
On the other hand students from Lingnan University in Hong Kong have also launched a sign - up to urge Dr HO to withdraw from his current post of Member of the Council of Lingnan University while demanding a thorough investigation by the University
在何議員所屬的新界西的選區裏，也有超過萬個的民間聯署，要求他辭任立法會議員職位。
Besides in the New Territories West Constituency to which Dr HO belongs more than ten thousand signatures have been collected from people in the local community who want him to resign from the office of Member of the Legislative Council
由此可見，今次事態嚴重，社會各界也非常關注，那麼立法會作為反映民意的機構，為甚麼反映和討論市民關注的問題，是浪費時間？
All these serve to illustrate the high level of severity of the incident which has aroused concerns from all quarters of society . As such how come it is a waste of time for the Legislative Council a body responsible for reflecting public opinions to reflect and discuss issues of public? . A legislator is a representative of public opinion
議員作為人民的代議士，何君堯議員作為民選議員，面對社會各 界質疑，我認為他應該坦然接受調查，向市民大眾交代。
In my opinion as a legislator elected by voters Dr HO ought to subject himself to investigations without concealing the truth when being queried by all quarters of society and give an account to the public accordingly
況且，更重要的一點是，調查並不代表定罪，沒有人一口咬定何君堯議員一定有罪或一定有錯。
More importantly investigation will not necessarily lead to conviction since no one has ever come up with the conclusion that Dr HO is guilty or wrong
我們只是想有水落石出的結果，如果何君堯議員真的沒有做錯，我們希望有機會還他清白，令市民可以恢復對議會的信心。
We only want to bring to light the truth . If Dr HO really has not done anything wrong we do hope to give him an opportunity to prove his innocence in a bid to restore public confidence in this Council
因此，如果他認為自己是清白無辜的話，更應該大方接受調查。
Therefore he should really subject himself to investigations without fear if he thinks he is innocent
代理主席，我不想再說何君堯議員過去多少次犯上類似的錯誤，剛才有很多議員同事已提及，我不想重複。
Deputy President I do not want to go on with the number of times in the past in which Dr HO has made similar mistakes since many Members have mentioned that just now . I do not want to repeat
不過，我希望引用何君堯議員的一句說話，他說即使大家政見不一，也請放下成見，以香港整體利益為依歸，多做實事，不要再以鼓吹暴力方式來搞這些"反暴力"的集會，要尊重政見不同的人，因為香港是可以容許市民有政見自由，我希望大家能夠用理據來說服對方，而不是"講打講殺"。
However I want to quote Dr HOs words here We should set aside prejudices and take a pragmatic approach to work in the overall interest of Hong Kong despite that our views on political affairs are divided . And so he should not organize any more of such so - called anti - violence rallies in a manner that advocates violence and have respect for people of different views on political affairs because Hong Kong citizens can enjoy freedom in forming their own political views . I wish that we can convince each other with reasons instead of threats of violence or death
主席，民主建港協進聯盟反對任何形式的暴力，當然包括語言暴力。
President the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB opposes any form of violence certainly including verbal violence
因為我們要為下一代反對暴力，為香港人反對暴力，為自己反對暴力。
It is because we must oppose violence for the next generation for Hong Kong people and also for ourselves
很多人說我很斯文。
Many people describe me as a decent person
我清楚記得，我第一次面對語言暴力或大家所說的"威嚇"，是在我代表民建聯參加九龍西直選時。
I remember clearly that the first time I had faced verbal violence or intimidation as Members call it was the time when I stood for the direct election of the Kowloon West constituency as a DAB representative
他們有否譴責這些暴力呢？
Did they condemn such violence?
為着我們的下一代，我真的不希望香港變成充滿暴力的社會，年青人隨隨便便說粗言。
For the sake of our next generation I honestly do not want to see Hong Kong become a community where violence prevails and young people use vulgarisms casually
主席，我有時候在立法會內聽到多位議員義正詞嚴地表示反對暴力，說要為下一代捍衞香港的文化，但當我想起上述的情景時，我真的感到十分欷歔。
President sometimes in the Legislative Council I can hear various Members voice opposition to violence with a strong sense of righteousness . They assert that they must safeguard Hong Kongs culture for the next generation . But I honestly cannot but heave a sigh at the thought of the above situation
如果毛孟靜議員今天動議議案的真正目的，是想認真關注近年不少遊行抗爭期間或在社會上出現煽動暴力行為的現象，或重視立法會議員應當遵守宣誓誓言，盡力履行立法會議員的職務的話，我們當然是樂見的。
If the motion moved by Ms Claudia MO today is really intended to arouse our serious concern about the phenomenon of inciting violence in various demonstrations and protests or in the community over recent years or to attach importance to the requirement that Legislative Council Members should comply with their oaths and diligently discharge their duties as Legislative Council Members we will certainly be glad to see it
事情已發生多月，他們可以發出譴責聲明。
And in fact they have already levelled their criticisms . Many months have passed since the incident and they may issue a condemnation statement
毛孟靜議員剛才在發言期間義正詞嚴地表示要批評暴力言行，但大家有否留意，當何議員作出有關言論後，他也受到很大壓力，甚至遭受同樣的語言暴力傷害呢？
A moment ago Ms Claudia MO said with a strong sense of righteousness in her speech that she must criticize words and acts of violence . However do Members notice that after uttering the relevant words Dr HO has likewise faced immense pressure and has even been victimized by the same kind of verbal violence?
有人留言，說要殺何議員全家，或要他全家遭滅門；有自稱香港眾志的上班網民說，當看到何君堯議員便要殺死他。
Someone left a message saying that he would kill all family members of Dr HO or exterminate his whole family . A netizen who claimed to work for Demosistō said that he would kill Dr Junius HO when seeing him
所以，我無法相信他們是為了維護議會尊嚴和反對暴力言論而提出譴責議案。
So I cannot believe they propose the censure motion for the purpose of safeguarding the dignity of the legislature and opposing verbal violence
主席，身為立法會議員，我們在座各位確實有責任維護立法會的莊嚴，並履行立法會議員的職責。
President as a Legislative Council Member every one of us present here is honestly duty - bound to uphold Legislative Councils solemnity and discharge his duties as a Legislative Council Member
不過，我們絕不應只針對個別議員 在議會外所說的一句引起社會爭議的話，而批評他藐視立法會的職能，甚至提出譴責議案。
But we absolutely should not criticize an individual Member for contempt of Legislative Councils functions and duties and even propose a censure motion solely because he has uttered certain words outside the legislature which have aroused controversy in the community
記着，譴責議案的目的，其實是想取消何議員的議員資格。
Remember the censure motion is actually aimed to disqualify Dr HO from office
主席，讓我們回想一下，在議會內曾有多少議員出言侮辱其他議員或政府官員呢？
President let us recall our memory . How many Members in the legislature have hurled verbal insults at other Members or government officials?
坦白說，我們也是最大的受害者之一，經常被責罵，隨時被責罵可耻。
Frankly speaking we are also major victims as we have always been reprimanded and they can reprimand us for being shameless anytime they wish
主席，多位議員在立法會會議上侮辱官員、搶去官員的文件，說粗言，更有人要議員和官員下地獄等。
President many Members have directed insults at our officials at Council meetings snatched away their papers and hurled vulgarisms . Some have even said that certain Members and officials must be condemned to hell
主席，譴責議案提到行為不檢及違反誓言等問題，我認為是一面鏡子，讓議員自我反省。
President the censure motion brings up the issues of misbehaviour and breach of oath . In my view it can serve as a mirror for Members to do some self - reflection
如果大家關心立法會議員的言行，大家又是否記得一些事件呢？
Do those Members who are concerned about the words and deeds of Legislative Council Members remember an incident?
當梁頌恆和游蕙禎在立法會莊嚴的議事平台上宣誓時侮辱祖國，行為可耻，他們不單違反立法會議員就職宣誓時的要求，而發表的言論更引起全球華人公憤。
Sixtus LEUNG and YAU Wai - ching insulted our Motherland on Legislative Councils solemn policy deliberation platform during oath - taking and conducted themselves shamelessly . They violated the swearing - in requirements on Legislative Council Members; and not only this their remarks even aroused the agony of Chinese people worldwide
提出譴責議案的毛孟靜議員，你記得你當時怎麼說嗎？
Ms Claudia MO you are the mover of this censure motion . Do you remember what you said at the time?
你當時說，他們只是"玩大咗"，別人不應落井下石，批評他們的行為。
At the time you asserted that they had gone too far only saying that we should not kick them when they were down and criticize them for their conduct
我記得你甚至說過，最重要的是有選民投票給他們，如果攻擊由選民選出的議員，便是攻擊人民。
As I remember you even said that the most important thing was that some voters voted for them adding that attacking a Member elected by voters was tantamount to attacking the people
毛議員，如果你仍然堅持當天的言論，你當天的言論今天同樣適用於何君堯議員身上。
Ms MO if you still hold fast to your words that day I will say that your words that day are also applicable to Dr Junius HO today
如果因為何君堯議員不認同你們或他的政見與你們不同便不適用的話，那麼對不起，我認為這絕對是雙重標準。
If you think that your words are not applicable because Dr Junius HO disagrees with you people or his political views differ from yours then I am sorry to say that this is definitely a double standard in my view
坦白說句，就今天的議案，如果大家把不同的圖畫組合起來，便不難得出一個結論，就是提出譴責議案或支持該議案的議員一貫地持雙重標準，為達致自己的政治目的，甚至是打擊對手。
Frankly speaking regarding the motion today if Members put the various pictures together it will not be difficult for them to draw a conclusion the conclusion that the mover of this censure motion or Members who support it have adopted a double standard as usual in a bid to attain their political objectives or even discredit their opponents
代理主席，我認為何君堯議員應該非常鄭重地向香港市民道歉，而建制派則應呼籲何君堯議員道歉，而並非維護他，提出"不得就毛孟靜議員動議的譴責議案再採取任何行動"的議案。
Deputy President I think Dr Junius HO should tender a solemn apology to Hong Kong people and the pro - establishment camp should urge Dr Junius HO to apologize rather than trying to defend him by moving the motion that no further action shall be taken on Ms Claudia MOs censure motion
何君堯議員是否願意道歉，以及建制派議員是否願意督促他道歉，是非常重要的問題。
Whether Dr Junius HO agrees to apologize and whether pro - establishment Members are willing to urge him to do so are matters of huge importance
如果他們再以各種方式維護何議員或轉移大家的視線，我覺得他們是是非不分。
If they keep trying to defend Dr HO by various means or divert Members attention I think they are unable to tell right from wrong
我希望建制派議員能認真考慮他們的立場。
I hope pro - establishment Members can consider their stance very seriously
他的行為不斷升級，顯示出他在是非對錯之間尚未給予清楚的說法，所以我認為大家這次不應支持這項"不得就譴責議案再採取任何行動"的議案。
The continued escalation of his deeds shows that he has failed to give a clear answer to the very question of right and wrong . For these reasons I do not think Members should support this motion that no further action shall be taken on the censure motion this time
何君堯議員在添馬公園發起"反港獨、反冷血、反偽學吶喊大會"，曾樹和先生在作"手起刀落"狀時說道，"搞'港獨'者必須殺"，而何君堯議員當時便高聲和應說"無赦"。
Dr Junius HO initiated the anti - independence anti - cold - bloodedness anti - bogus academic rally at the Tamar Park . Making a hand - chop gesture Mr TSANG Shu - wo said Those who propagate Hong Kong independence must be killed . And at the time Dr Junius HO echoed aloud by saying without mercy
根據《公安條例》第26條，任何人如無合法權限而在公眾聚集中發表任何聲明，意圖煽惑或誘使他人殺死任何人或任何類別或群體的人，即屬犯罪。
Under section 26 of the Public Order Ordinance any person who makes any statement without lawful authority at any public gathering with the intention to incite or induce any person to kill any person or any class or community of persons shall be guilty of an offence
該吶喊大會在公眾場所 舉行，有很多公眾人士聚集作政治表態。
The rally was held at a public venue and many public figures assembled there to state their political stance
何君堯議員和曾樹和先生亦曾發表聲明。
Dr Junius HO and Mr TSANG Shu - wo also made a statement
他的言論是否意圖煽惑他人殺人，我相信是很清楚的。
I believe the answer to the very question of whether he intended to incite anyone to kill others through his words was crystal clear
在該次集會完結後，何君堯議員在接受傳媒訪問時說道："如果搞港獨的人是將國家命運顛覆，要令香港及祖國13億人付出龐大代價，這些人不殺他來幹甚麼？
After the assembly Dr Junius HO said during a media interview If Hong Kong independence advocates are subverting the fate of the country and have the 1.3 billion people in the Motherland and Hong Kong pay a huge price why not kill such advocates?
" 根據上文下理，他口中的"殺"字只可以理解為"殺戮"，並非"殺校"中"結束"的意思。
Put into context the word kill uttered by him can only be taken to mean slaughter rather than end as in to kill a school
代理主席，我正在解釋為何議員不應支持陳克勤議員提出的"不得就譴責議案再採取任何行動"的議案。
Deputy President I am now explaining why Members should not support Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion that no further action shall be taken on the censure motion
何君堯議員在整個過程中以各種方式抵賴，證明我們沒有理由不採取任何行動。
In the entire process Dr Junius HO tried to deny everything by putting forth various excuses . This is proof that we have no reason to refrain from taking any action
他說道，他口中的"殺"字，並非鼓吹殺人和喧染暴力，只是針對某種意識形態。
He argued that the word kill uttered by him was merely targeted at a certain ideology rather than aiming to incite killing and propagate violence
他更指自己沒有不軌企圖，只是嫉惡如仇，但他隨即又表示，只因立法會議員的中文水平低，所以不能理解這點，更說萬萬想不到議員的中文閱讀理解能力如此低，質疑他們如何擔任議員代表香港人。
He even went on to say that he did not have any ulterior motives only that he had strong resentment to evil deeds . But he added immediately afterwards that low Chinese language competence among Legislative Council Members was the only reason that could explain their inability to understand his point . He even went so far as to saying that it had never occurred to him that Members competence in Chinese reading comprehension was this low and he questioned how they were able to represent Hong Kong people in their capacity as Members
既然他引述《駁復仇議》，那麼我便要問其實他曾否了解"殺無赦"的典故。
As he quoted from A Rebuttal of Memorial on Revenge I must ask if he has sought to understand the allusion of kill without mercy
其實，這個典故有更長的歷史。
The history of this allusion is actually much longer
在9月19日，何君堯議員甚至在Facebook上發帖批評聯署的議員："但偏偏聽了個'殺'字，便煞有介事，是非不分，形同喪屍，空群而出，失去理性地亂噬......
On 19 September Dr Junius HO even published a post on Facebook to criticize those Members who had signed the joint petition But upon hearing the mere word kill they have hastened to make a huge fuss of it
'，這廿二條政棍就前仆後繼，亂打亂砌！
these 22 political thugs have rushed to level pointless attacks and accusations one after another!
這說明一點，我們已觸及了他們的死穴，他們現在唯有作出垂死的掙扎。
This explains one thing We have touched their death spot . Now they can only put up the last - ditch struggle
只要我們團結一致，堅定不移，繼續作戰到底，反港獨、反冷血，反偽學，撥亂反正，再誘敵深入，然後予以一舉殲滅！
As long as we remain united and unswerving and persist in our battle against Hong Kong independence cold - bloodedness and bogus academics till the end we will be able to right the wrong . Then we may lure our enemies to move closer and exterminate them in one go
他指有關議員的中文水平低，無法代表香港人，應該全被"DQ"，又說批評他不對的人全是議會內的破壞者。
He criticized the relevant Members saying that they should all be disqualified as they were unable to represent Hong Kong people with their low Chinese language competence . He even added that those who had criticized him for doing something wrong were all destroyers in the legislature
他不單在Facebook上作出有關言論，甚至在立法會內務委員會主席面前亦說道，部分反對派議員對中文一知半解，扭曲他早前發表的言論，並且上綱上線。
Not only did he write the above remarks on Facebook but he also said before the Chairman of the Legislative Council House Committee that certain opposition Members who only had a half - baked understanding of the Chinese language had distorted the meaning of his previous words and kept exaggerating the matter
這是他在10月6日的內務委員會會議上的言論。
This was what he said at the House Committee meeting on 6 October
代理主席，他煽動暴力，接着抵賴，並用各種方法辯解，指自己不是這意思，然後進一步攻擊他人。
Deputy President after inciting violence he gave a blatant denial and tried to defend himself by putting forth various excuses saying that this was not what he meant . Afterwards he went on to attack others
大家可能只是給予他一些提醒或批評。
Perhaps Members merely wish to give him a certain reminder or criticize him
不過，如果一個人有他的表現......如果有學生犯錯而即時道歉，很多老師都願意原諒他。
But if a person behaves in the same way as he did If a student apologizes right after making a mistake many teachers will be willing to forgive him
不過，如果他抵賴，更反而不斷攻擊批評他的老師，批評他的人，我相信所有教育工作者只會更感憤怒。
But if the student gives a blatant denial and instead keeps attacking those teachers or people who criticize him I believe all educational workers will only get more infuriated
大家看見何君堯議員的表現之所以感到憤怒，我相信就是出於這原因。
I believe this is the precise reason why those who saw Dr Junius HOs conduct were agonized
在過程中，多位議員亦會聯想起其他類似情況。
In the process many Members have associated this matter with other similar cases
大家覺得何君堯議員的表現是否可以接受呢？
Do Members consider the conduct of Dr Junius HO to be acceptable?
我在此認真呼籲議員必須採取跟進行動。這項跟進行動......
I hereby seriously urge Members to take follow up action
我希望何君堯議員在稍後答辯時可以向市民衷心鄭重地道歉及解釋。
The follow - up action I hope Dr Junius HO can tender a sincere and solemn apology and explanation to people in his reply later on
我亦希望建制派議員能夠一同清楚指出何君堯議員的錯誤，並要求他鄭重道歉。
I also hope that pro - establishment Members can clearly point out the mistakes of Dr Junius HO together and ask him to tender a solemn apology
我希望葉劉淑儀議員和其他建制派議員可以一同做此事。
I hope Mrs Regina IP and other pro - establishment Members can do this together
代理主席，我們主張和平理性非暴力。
Deputy President we advocate peace rationality and non - violence
他是我們的一分子，如果因為一時失言，他應該衷心鄭重地道歉。
He is part of the legislature . If all was due to a slip of the tongue he should tender a sincere and solemn apology
我希望何君堯議員聽到我的意見。
I hope Dr Junius HO can pay heed to my advice
我留意到何議員直到現在，不同議員站立發言的時候，何議員都坐在這裏，他沒有離開座位，這我覺得是一個很好的態度。
He actually demonstrates his patience and magnanimity as I have noticed that he has been in his seat all along when other Members rise and speak . This is a very fine attitude indeed
主席，我反對陳克勤議員的議案，"不得就毛孟靜議員動議的譴責議案再採取任何行動"。
President I reject Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion that no further action shall be taken on the censure motion moved by Hon Claudia MO
我反對的原因，特別是因為陳克勤議員說："時間久了，'殺無赦'事件已經過氣，應該花時間在一些有意義的事情上"。
I reject it especially because Mr CHAN Hak - kan argued that the incident surrounding the killing with no mercy remark has happened some time ago . This issue is already over . The Council should spend time on other meaningful issues
這一句說話彷彿帶我們討論到"過氣"和"過火"之間的關係；"過氣"重要一點，還是"過火"重要一點的關係？
This argument probably has brought up the discussion about the relationship between over and overdo or the question of importance between over and overdo
也許陳克勤議員真的很明白政府的管治方法，或者管治思維。
Perhaps Mr CHAN Hak - kan really knows very well the Governments method of governance or its mindset
難怪政府用這種方法，你們儘管去罵一些人，罵兩天、3天，只要捱過3天的話，事情便會過氣。
No wonder the Government adopts such a tactic on almost everything . So you people can just keep on criticizing them but after a few days as long as the Government can bear the backlash for three days the problem will be over
我真的很懷疑是否真的會過氣？
I really doubt if things will really fade and be bygones
在人類歷史裏面，有很多做錯的大事，一年過去，10年過去，100年過去也沒有過氣，我們經常以此為鑒。
Over the course of history many major mistakes never faded even after a year 10 years or even 100 years . We always bear this in mind
如果這些事情可以過氣的話，我們可能會沒有歷史這科目，或者沒有歷史這個字眼。
If these mistakes can fade then we probably no longer have to study history anymore or the word history can be erased totally . Overdo and over are two words with different meanings
"過火"，就是"過火"；"過氣"，就是"過氣"，有些事情真的不會這麼容易過氣。
There are certain issues that will not be over so easily
今天我們討論的是一件過火事件。
The subject today is about an issue which have been overdone
我會就着何君堯議員作為一位精英、作為一位議員、作為一位大學校董、作為一位基督徒、作為一位知識分子、作為一位公眾人物等，不同的角度來分析，以及我為何反對陳克勤議員這項議案。
I will analyse this from the perspective that Dr Junius HO is an elite a legislator a council member of an university a Christian an intellectual a public figure etc . I will approach the issue from different angles and explain why I reject Mr CHAN Hak - kans motion
香港經過很多年的殖民統治，精英主義盛行，培養我自小很尊敬精英、很尊敬律師、很尊敬醫生、很尊敬校長。
After years of colonial rules in Hong Kong elitism has been prevailing in the city . In this environment I respected the elites the lawyers the doctors and the school principals during my childhood