Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
主席，局長在主體答覆中表示，關於香港樓面面積的寬免，顧問建議維持現有的10%整體寬免上限，同時又建議提升有關的先決條件，即要求新建的私人發展項目要在綠建環評中獲得指定級別，才可以就這些環保設施或適意設施申請總樓面面積寬免。
President according to the Secretarys main reply the consultant recommended that the current overall cap on Hong Kongs GFA concessions be maintained at 10 % and also recommended tightening the prerequisite by requiring new private development projects to achieve a specific rating under BEAM Plus in order to apply for GFA concessions for green and amenity features
我想問局長，既然希望達到這樣的鼓勵作用，為何不考慮設立不同的寬免上限呢？
I would like to ask the Secretary since it is our hope to achieve such an incentive effect why is no consideration given to setting different caps on the concessions?
以目前綠建環評的做法而言，讓我再說一說，目前只要發展商參加，日後萬一項目完全無法達到任何級別，仍然可以享有總樓面面積寬免。
Let me add a few words about the current practice under BEAM Plus . At present the developers just need to participate in BEAM Plus . Even on the off chance that the project completely fails to achieve any rating they can still enjoy the GFA concessions
近年生活質素越來越差，因為居住的單位越來越小。
In recent years the quality of life has been deteriorating because the residential units are getting smaller and smaller
在局長檢討整個發展路向時，有否辦法......在2020年，人均居住面積為13.1平方米，相對來說深圳是27平方米。
When the Secretary reviews the overall direction of development is there any way to In 2020 our average living space per person was 13.1 sq m compared to 27 sq m in Shenzhen
即使我們追不上深圳的27平方米，起碼也可以追到15或16平方米吧？
Even if we cannot catch up with Shenzhens 27 sq m we should at least be able to reach up to 15 or 16 right?
我再請局長想一想，可引入甚麼其他政策，為我們香港人"拆牆鬆綁"，改善生活環境，免得那麼擠迫？
I urge the Secretary again to contemplate what other policies can be introduced to remove barriers and relax restrictions so that Hong Kong people particularly the young people can improve their living conditions and spare themselves from such crowdedness
這樣亦可減低對政府的民怨。
This can moreover reduce public discontent with the Government
稍後來到立法會，我再跟何議員解釋。
I will explain this to Dr HO again when I come to this Council later
主席，現行輸入家庭傭工計劃並未涵蓋內地家庭傭工。
President the existing scheme for importation of domestic helpers does not cover Mainland domestic helpers MDHs
然而，東南亞多個外籍家庭傭工主要來源國家接連爆發2019冠狀病毒病疫情，令外傭來港人數銳減，加上在港外傭"跳工"頻繁，導致越來越多本港家庭無法聘得外傭。
However the successive outbreaks of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 epidemic in a number of major source countries for foreign domestic helpers FDHs in Southeast Asia have resulted in a drastic drop in the number of FDHs coming to Hong Kong . This situation coupled with the frequent job - hopping by FDHs currently in Hong Kong has rendered more and more families in Hong Kong unable to hire FDHs
主席，就議員的提問，經諮詢保安局及入境事務處後，我現綜合回覆如下。一 面對2019冠狀病毒病疫情，政府一直因應疫情防控形勢的變化和需要，盡最大努力為外籍家庭傭工和其僱主提供協助和便利。
President having consulted the Security Bureau and the Immigration Department ImmD my consolidated response to the Members question is set out below 1 In the face of the COVID - 19 pandemic the Government has been making its best effort to provide assistance and facilitation to foreign domestic helpers FDHs and their employers subject to changes in and the need for prevention and control of the pandemic
從2020年年初開始，勞工處及入境處推行多項措施，協助外傭及其僱主應對2019冠狀病毒病疫情，包括容許僱主延長其即將離任外傭的現行合約有效期限最多3個月，以及進一步延長外傭延後返回原居地的特別安排。
Since early 2020 the Labour Department LD and ImmD have put in place various measures to help FDHs and their employers cope with the COVID - 19 pandemic including allowing employers to extend the validity period of the existing contracts with their outgoing FDHs for a maximum of three months and further extending the special arrangement for FDHs to defer their return to their place of origin
一般而言，外傭可在其僱主同意下申請延後一年返回原居地。
In general FDHs may apply for a one - year deferral for returning to their place of origin subject to agreement with their employers
在疫情下，如外傭在該首次一年延後期內仍未能返回原居地，可再向入境處申請進一步延長逗留期限直至合約完結才返回原居地。
During the pandemic if an FDH is still unable to return to hisher place of origin within the first one - year deferral heshe may apply to ImmD again for a further extension of limit of stay until the end of the contract before returning to hisher place of origin
如新聘請的外傭受疫情影響暫時未能來港，或現任外傭未能返回原居地，僱主可採取上述特別安排，讓現任外傭繼續留港照顧家庭。
If newly - hired FDHs are temporarily unable to come to Hong Kong due to the pandemic or the current FDHs are not able to return to their place of origin employers may make use of the above special arrangements to allow their current FDHs to continue to stay in Hong Kong to take care of their families
上述特別安排須得到僱傭雙方同意。
The above special arrangements are subject to agreement between the FDH and the employer
在回歸前，英、美、加、澳、紐等無需簽證國家人士，或所謂西方國家人士取得工作簽證來港後住滿7年，便可以自動成為香港永久性居民。
Before Hong Kongs reunification with China British United States Canadian Australian and New Zealand nationals or the so - called westerners who had resided in Hong Kong for seven years after entering Hong Kong on employment visas would automatically become HKPRs . However all along our treatment of Mainlanders and FDHs has been discriminatory
主席，我的補充質詢是問，為何要優惠"五眼聯盟"國家的人而歧視內地同胞或外傭呢？
President I asked in my supplementary question why people coming from the countries of the Five Eyes are given favourable treatment while people coming from the Mainland or FDHs are being discriminated against
主席，輸入內地傭工當然需要小心研究，前中央政策組曾經在2009年進行有關輸入內地傭工的研究，並初步列出數項規定，例如傭工必須年滿45歲、不得留港超過7年、必須透過中介公司的配額等，但研究結果沒有對外公開。
President we certainly need to carefully study the admission of MDHs . In 2009 the former Central Policy Unit conducted a study on the admission of MDHs . The preliminary result of the study listed several requirements for their admission such as they must be aged 45 or above; they may not stay in Hong Kong for more than seven years; the quota must be allocated through an intermediary agency etc
有否從大灣區整體社會發展的角度審視相關問題，以及有否就相關議題，跟內地各省市政府進行溝通和交流呢？
Have they reviewed the related issues from the perspective of the overall social development of the Greater Bay Area? . And have they communicated and exchanged views with Mainland provincial and municipal governments on the related subjects?
主席，中央政策組在2009年進行有關研究之後，政府內部曾經進行有關討論，結論是不適宜在香港進行有關工作，即有關內地傭工來香港作為家庭傭工的安排。
President the Government did hold internal discussion on this subject after the Central Policy Unit had conducted their study in 2009 and the conclusion was that Hong Kong was not suitable for the measure ie . the arrangement on Mainland workers coming to Hong Kong to work as domestic helpers
當然，據我記憶，近10年也沒有進行相關研究。
And according to my memory we have not done related studies in the past 10 years
主席，外傭短缺、"跳工"嚴重，這是有聘請外傭的僱主近來面對最頭痛和最困擾的問題。
President people who have hired FDHs were recently facing two most troublesome problems causing them a great headache . These are the shortage of FDHs and their frequent job - hopping tendency
大家也知道，外傭輸出國菲律賓和印尼因為疫情嚴峻，已作出一些特別安排。
As we all know because of the rampant pandemic outbreaks in Philippines and Indonesia these FDH exporting countries have made special arrangements
在這個問題上，已有數千名外傭無法來港，於是出現剛才所說的外傭短缺、"跳工"嚴重問題。
In this connection thousands of FDHs are unable to come to Hong Kong thus resulting in a shortage of FDHs and frequent job - hopping among them which I just mentioned
主席，關於這個情況，我看到入境處在回答傳媒查詢時表示，會收緊措施及作出一些安排。
President I notice that in its reply to media enquiry regarding this situation ImmD said that it would tighten the measure and make some arrangements
面對供不應求的情況，我十分希望向勞工及福利局了解，局方有何特別措施支援僱主，令他們面對這個問題時無須那麼頭痛呢？
In view of the fact that the demand for FDHs exceeds the supply I very much hope to ask the Labour and Welfare Bureau a question what special measures does it have to support employers so that they will not have such a headache when they deal with these problems?
主席，我在主體答覆第一部分亦已說明，如何協助在港外傭及其僱主。
President I have explained in part 1 of the main reply the ways to assist FDHs in Hong Kong and their employers
不過，如果議員特別關心所謂"跳工"的問題，其實我們在過往的答覆中曾詳細說明兩方面的考慮。
However if Member has a special concern on the so - called job - hopping we have actually explained it in detail in past replies and there are two considerations
一方面，我們希望盡量避免這些所謂"跳工"的安排，但同時我們亦要考慮到有時候，一些十分特別的情況會導致合約中斷，例如僱主過身，又或其他十分特別的情況是我們需要考慮的。
On the one hand we strive to prevent these so - called job - hopping arrangements . However we must also consider the special situations which may lead to termination of the contract . For example the employer has passed away; or some other special situations we need to consider
我們並要考慮到處理的個案申請數目，如果延後太久，便會出現很多外傭在合約完成後逗留在臨時院舍，因而導致防疫風險問題。
We must also consider the number of applications that we have to deal with . If the processing of applications is delayed for too long many FDHs will have to temporarily stay in boarding houses after completion of their contracts which will add to the risks of the epidemic
所以，在這數個範疇之中，我們反覆思量，如何拿捏分寸，特別是那些已中斷合約的外傭再尋覓新僱主的安排。
Hence we have repeatedly assessed and evaluated these several aspects . We are particularly concerned about the arrangements on FDHs whose contracts have been terminated and are looking for new employers
主席，雖然謝偉俊議員說這項質詢的焦點並非在內傭的層面上，但我們希望將這項討論放在內傭的問題。
President although Mr Paul TSE said that the focus of this question was not on MDHs we wish to focus the discussion on the problem of MDHs
主席，第一，就現時很多僱主聘請不到外傭，當局亦開始考慮如何增加這項服務的供應，包括將內傭列入考慮。
President first many employers are now unable to hire FDHs . The authorities have also started to consider how to increase this service supply including putting MDHs into their consideration
但是，有報道指出，澳門實行輸入內傭一段時間，但都聘請不到人，因為價錢並不便宜。
However it has been reported that people in Macao where the import of MDHs has been implemented for quite some time are unable to hire MDHs because of their expensive costs
主席，我想問局方，既然外傭和內傭的成本現時並不便宜，亦難以聘請，政府有否做過任何工作推廣本地家務助理，以提升市民對這項服務的需求及認識，以及加強有關培訓課程，令本地婦女在高失業率的情況下可以找到工作？
President I wish to ask the Bureau this question . Given that the costs of hiring a FDH or MDH are not cheap and that it is difficult to hire one has the Government made any effort to promote local domestic helpers so as to increase the publics understanding of and demand for this service and enhance the relevant training courses for local women who will then be able to find a job despite the present high unemployment rate?
主席，有關家庭傭工的培訓工作，在僱員再培訓局是一個相當受歡迎的課程。
President regarding the training of domestic helpers the relevant courses provided at the Employees Retraining Board ERB are very popular
當然，除了僱員再培訓局，坊間亦有其他平台，我記憶中有大約超過20間社企的類似組織，都是提供這些空缺及供僱主聘用僱員。
But of course there are other platforms in the community apart from ERB . As far as I remember there are about 20 - odd social enterprises of a similar nature which provide such jobs for employers to find employees
不過，的而且確，在某些地區是比較困難一點，因為那些提供服務的人並非住在需要服務的人居住的地區，例如在港島區、半山區等聘用家庭傭工會比較困難，但在新界或九龍，情況會比較好。
But it is indeed more difficult to provide these services in certain districts because the service providers do not live in the districts where the service receivers are . For instance it is more difficult to find a domestic helper to work on Hong Kong Island or at Mid - levels but it is easier to find one to work in the New Territories or on Kowloon side
不過，事實上，僱主依然難以聘請外傭，依然因為檢疫的原因而無法安排外傭來港，很多中產人士依然很着急，外傭的叫價依然越來越高。
But the fact is that people are still unable to hire FDHs . They are still unable to arrange FDHs to come to Hong Kong due to the quarantine requirements . Many middle - class people are still very anxious
其實，我想返回主體質詢第二部分，在這段疫症期間，非常時期要有新思維，亦要有一些特別措施去處理。
In fact I wish to go back to part 2 of the main question . During the pandemic in this very special time we need to have new thinking and also special measures to deal with the situation
局長可否不要這麼堅持，因為局長在這兩星期的答覆都堅持表示，基於入境管制及保安考慮，不會考慮輸入內傭。
Can the Secretary be less insistent? . In a reply two weeks ago the Secretary insisted on his refusal to consider admitting MDHs due to immigration and security considerations
我認為這些已是過時的想法，局長可否在這個非常時期稍為放寬這兩方面的考慮，讓中產人士可以嘗試在疫症期間聘請內傭呢？
I think this thinking is outdated . In this very special time can the Secretary be slightly less insistent about these two considerations and allow middle - class people to try to hire MDHs during the pandemic?
主席，立法會議員提出這些問題，甚或提出一些很具體的建議，政府當局必然會認真研究及考慮。
President when Legislative Council Members voice out these problems or make specific suggestions the Government certainly will study and consider them seriously
我在兩星期前的答覆及今天給大家的答覆，都是我們現時對這個問題的看法，以及過往討論這個問題所關注的地方。
My reply two weeks ago and my reply to Member today are both our current views on this problem as well as our points of concern in our past discussion on this problem
所以，如果大家繼續探討這個問題，我們都樂意與大家討論。
So if Members wish to continue to explore this problem we would be happy to discuss with them
不過，這個問題本身很複雜，因為處理任何內地居民來香港工作，包括我們的輸入外勞政策，我們都要非常小心。
However this problem itself is a complicated one . In dealing with Mainland residents coming to work in Hong Kong including our policy on the importation of labour we have to be very careful
所以，這個問題並非純粹屬於勞工政策的範圍， 它除了涉及我剛才所說有關入境及保安的問題，亦可能連帶相當多社會甚至家庭問題。
So this problem is not purely within the scope of labour policy . Apart from immigration and security considerations which I just mentioned it may also involve many social and family problems
我們樂意將來與大家作深入討論。
We are happy to have an in - depth discussion with Members in the future
除了透過宣傳和教育推廣兒童乘車安全之外，我們亦正在檢討在私家車使用兒童束縛設備的規定，以進一步加強兒童乘車的安全。
Apart from conducting publicity and education campaigns to promote child safety in cars we are also reviewing the requirements on the use of child restraint device CRD in private cars so as to further enhance child safety in cars
就柯創盛議員的質詢的各個部分，經諮詢運輸署後，現答覆如下： 一 在2018年、2019年及2020年的交通意外中，並沒有12歲以下乘客死亡的個案，而涉及12歲以下乘客的嚴重受傷數字分別為10位、7位及3位。
Having consulted the Transport Department TD my reply to the various parts of Mr Wilson ORs question is as follows 1 In the traffic accidents in 2018 2019 and 2020 there were no fatal cases of passengers under the age of 12 while the numbers of passengers under the age of 12 sustaining serious injuries were 10 7 and 3 respectively
二及三 政府一直推動兒童乘車安全。
2 and 3 The Government has been promoting child safety in cars
現時根據《道路交通規例》，3歲以下的兒童坐在私家車前座時，必須使用認可的兒童束縛設備；至於私家車後座，如果座位已裝配兒童束縛設備，3歲以下的兒童也必須使用。
Under the Road Traffic Regulations Cap . 374F a child under the age of three must be restrained by an approved CRD when travelling in the front seat of a private car . A child passenger under the age of three travelling in the rear seat is also required to use a CRD if one is fitted
除法例的規定之外，政府亦一直進行有關兒童乘車安全的宣傳和教育工作。
Statutory requirements aside the Government has been conducting publicity and public education work in relation to child safety in cars
雖然現時法例未有強制在私家車後座為兒童乘客安裝兒童束縛設備，但我們留意到不少司機已在私家車後座安裝兒童束縛設備。
While there is currently no statutory requirement to mandate the installation of CRD in the rear seat of a private car for child passengers we note that quite often drivers have nonetheless fitted CRD in the rear seats of their cars
此外，不論家長、甚至是兒童，他們很多都對佩戴束縛設備的意識亦相當高。
We also note that parents or even children have high awareness of the need to use restraint devices
於2020年6月，運輸署發出《道路使用者守則》更新版本，當中新增"確保兒童乘車安全"的篇幅，列明現行有關兒童束縛設備的法例要求，以及使用指引和規則，例如兒童束縛設備須根據廠商指示安裝於車廂內，並應讓幼童坐在後座上等。
TD published an updated version of the Road Users Code in June 2020 which includes a newly added section on Child Safety in Cars . The section sets out the prevailing statutory requirements instructions and rules concerning the use of CRD . For example CRD must be fitted to the vehicle in accordance with the manufacturers instructions; while young children should be placed in the rear seats etc
我們一向十分關注學生服務車輛的安全。
We have attached particular importance to the safety of student service vehicles
為加強保障學童的乘車安全，運輸署於2007年修例，規定所有在2009年5月1日或以後登記的學生服務車輛，必須裝設"保護式座椅"，以在車輛發生碰撞時減低學童被拋離座位的機會，及降低學童受傷程度。
To enhance the safety of student passengers legislative amendments were made by TD in 2007 to stipulate that student service vehicles registered on or after 1 May 2009 must be equipped with Safer Seats so as to reduce the risk of students being thrown out of their seats and the severity of injury in case of vehicle collision
此外，運輸署亦已更新《學童乘搭"學生服務車輛"的安全指引》，為從事學生接載服務的營辦商、司機及跟車保姆等，提供作業和服務使用守則。
In addition TD has also updated the Guidelines for Ensuring Safety of Students on Student Service Vehicles which serves as a code of practice and user guide for student transport service operators drivers escorts etc
例如須確保每名乘客均獲分配一個結構穩妥並牢固裝置在車身上的座位、車輛行駛時切勿離開座位，並於去年9月加入鼓勵業界在訂購新的學生服務車輛時，為所有後排乘客座位安裝安全帶的建議。
For example it should be ensured that each passenger should be allocated and seated in a properly constructed seat secured to the body of the vehicle; and passengers must remain seated when the vehicle is in motion; and since September last year the trade is encouraged to install seat belts on all rear passenger seats when procuring new student service vehicles
儘管政府就兒童乘車安全一直進行一系列工作，我們認為仍有空間進一步為兒童乘客提供更大的保障。
Although the Government has taken forward a series of work to enhance child safety on cars we reckon that there is room to further strengthen the protection for child passengers
就此，政府在2013年年底建議提高強制在私家車上使用兒童束縛設備的要求，並提出採用身高和年齡作為有關強制要求的準則的方案。
In this connection the Government proposed in the end of 2013 to tighten the mandatory requirement on the use of CRD in private cars and recommended using body height and age as the criteria concerned
自政府向立法會交通事務委員會匯報有關方案後，政府已開展擬定法例框架的工作，並於2018年5月回覆立法會質詢時報告進展。
Since the Government briefed the Legislative Council Panel on Transport the Panel on the relevant proposals the Government has commenced the formulation of the legal framework and reported the progress in the reply to a question from the Legislative Council in May 2018
籌劃過程中，我們審視了有關建議涉及的多項複雜事宜，包括罰則、蒐證、可作合理辯解的情況等。
We have examined a number of complicated issues involved in the proposals including penalties collection of evidence circumstances to establish a reasonable defence etc
運輸署亦特別就以身高及年齡作為準則所牽涉的執法細節及挑戰，例如執法人員當場判斷兒童身高的困難、需要兒童配合等情況，一直與執法部門商討，並尋求律政司的法律意見。
TD has in particular kept discussing with the law enforcement agency and sought legal advice from the Department of Justice on the enforcement details and challenges arising from the adoption of body height and age as the criteria such as the law enforcement officers difficulties in determining the height of the children concerned on the spot the need for childrens cooperation etc
此外，過去立法會交通事務委員會委員亦關注對私家車駕駛者的影響、罰則及執法安排等事宜。
Besides Panel members previously raised concerns on such issues as the impact on private car drivers penalties and enforcement arrangements
就此，我們會小心處理及平衡各方的意見，在進一步制訂細節後，我們會適時諮詢立法會交通事務委員會及相關持份者。
In view of the above we need to carefully consider and balance the views of various parties . Upon the further formulation of details we will consult the Panel and the stakeholders in due course
主席，局長剛才有在主體答覆中正面回應我的質詢，只是仍未能釋除我和公眾的疑慮。
President the Secretary did have responded positively to my question in his main reply just now but still that fails to allay the concerns of the public and mine
主席，交通意外一宗也嫌多，而近期發生的多宗交通意外，均屬涉及傷亡的大型交通意外，因而引起社會各界高度關注交通安全的問題，尤其是12歲以下兒童的乘車安全。
President even one single traffic accident is still too many and the various traffic accidents which occurred recently are major traffic accidents involving casualties thus arousing grave concern about traffic safety in the community in particular the safety of children under the age of 12 travelling in cars
就柯議員剛才所提及於近期發生的交通事故，我們感到十分難過。
We feel very sorry about the various recent traffic accidents mentioned by Mr OR just now
其中一宗嚴重的交通意外涉及一輛校巴，假如大家有留意，便知道校巴上的學童除有些擦傷外，整體而言，並無嚴重受傷。
Among those serious traffic accidents is one involving a school bus . Members may already know that if they have noticed students on board the school bus did not sustain serious injuries in general apart from a few scrapes
可是，正如我剛才所言，無論現時做得如何，我們認為仍有改善的空間，從校巴至私家車，所有我們認為有需要作出改善以保障兒童乘車安全之處，我們也會盡量考慮。
Yet as I have just said we think there is still room for improvement no matter how well we have done so far . Whether it be school bus or private car we will take on board as far as possible everything that needs to be done for the sake of child safety in cars
我剛才亦已指出，在籌劃的過程中，會涉及法例的規範及執法時或須面對的挑戰，而我們有需要就司機、車主、相關各方的法律責任和罰則作出適當的平衡。
I have also mentioned just now that regulation by law and challenges possibly encountered during enforcement are involved throughout the course and we have to strike a proper balance between the legal responsibilities of and penalties against drivers car owners and all parties concerned
這些工作已有相當進度，待我們做好決定後，會盡快回來諮詢交通事務委員會。
Considerable progress has been achieved in this respect . We will come back to consult the Panel as soon as the decision is made
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：《消防安全條例草案》予以三讀並通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the Fire Safety Bill be read the Third time and do pass
《消防安全條例草案》。
Fire Safety Bill
由於議題獲得在席議員以過半數贊成，他於是宣布議案獲得通過。
Since the question was agreed by a majority of the Members present he therefore declared that the motion was passed
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：民政事務局局長動議的議案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the motion moved by the Secretary for Home Affairs be passed
全體委員會已完成審議《2018年歧視法例條例草案》的所有程序。
All the proceedings on the Discrimination Legislation Bill 2018 have been concluded in committee of the whole Council
《2018年歧視法例條例草案》。
Discrimination Legislation Bill 2018
委員已獲通知，全體委員會會合併辯論各項條文及修正案。
Members have been informed that the
第1至33條。
Clauses 1 to 33
政制及內地事務局局長會動議3組修正案：第一組修正案旨在修正第4及7條；第二組修正案旨在修正第19至22條；及第三組修正案旨在增補新訂的第18A、19A至19C、21A至21D及23A至23C條。
The Secretary for Constitutional and Mainland Affairs will move three groups of amendments The first group of amendments seek to amend clauses 4 and 7; the second group of amendments seek to amend clauses 19 to 22; and the third group of amendments seek to add new clauses 18A 19A to 19C 21A to 21D and 23A to 23C
我發言支持《2018年旅館業條例草案》三讀通過。
I rise to speak in support of the Third Reading and the passage of the Hotel and Guesthouse Accommodation Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill
對於"攬炒派"議員一致投反對票，我表示震驚，因為有關修訂能夠明確地解決過去民政事務局發牌時不看地契，令業主立案法團陷入兩難究竟打官司，還是不打官司成為磨心的問題。
I would say it came as a shock that Members of the mutual destruction camp unanimously cast opposing votes on the Bill because the amendments concerned can precisely resolve the quandary―to go to or not to go to court―faced by owners corporations OCs which have become the meat in the sandwich as a result of the Home Affairs Bureaus practice of issuing licences without referring to land leases
我認為這項《條例草案》是值得和需要通過的，因為它解決了最大的問題。
I think it is both worthy and necessary to pass this Bill because it resolves the greatest problem
局長，你是否想再次發言？
Secretary do you wish to speak again?
我發言支持《2018年旅館業條例草案》的二讀。
I speak in support of the Second Reading of the Hotel and Guesthouse Accommodation Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill
主席，正如很多同事所說，其實有關的修訂是源於2013年北角五洲大廈發生三級大火，導致25人受傷及多人危殆。
President as many colleagues have mentioned the relevant amendment is triggered by the No . 3 alarm fire at North Points Continental Mansion in 2013 which had caused 25 injuries and many of them were in critical condition
所以，其實五洲大廈的情況只是冰山一角。
For that reason the case of the Continental Mansion is just the tip of the iceberg
我當時也有詢問政府，民政事務局為何會向這些賓館發出牌照，卻完全不理會這些賓館已違反大廈公契？
At that time I asked the Government why the Home Affairs Bureau issued licences to these guesthouses in disregard of the fact that these guesthouses had violated the provisions of the deeds of mutual covenant concerned
由於很多賓館表示："是政府部門'打正旗號'發牌給我，你不應該質疑我的存在"。
Since many guesthouse operators said You should not question my presence as we are officially licensed by the Government
法團也束手無策，因為如果法團與這些賓館打官司，便會牽涉到集資，要花很多訴訟費用，所以很多法團未必可以即時根據地契採取行動。
Incorporated owners could do nothing about it because if incorporated owners were to take legal actions against these guesthouses it would require fund raising and the legal costs would be huge . For that reason incorporated owners might not be able to take actions according to the relevant deeds of mutual covenant
但是，歸根究底，我們要追究政府部門為何在公契不容許的情況下，他們仍會發出賓館牌照？
However ultimately we should hold the government department concerned responsible for issuing licences to these guesthouses which were not allowed under the relevant deeds of mutual covenant
當時局方亦沒有解答，他們的說法是，因為他們是寫字樓辦公的，他們坐在辦公室內，無論誰向他們遞表申請，只要他們看到其申請的處所是住宅用途、符合《建築物條例》和《消防條例》，便會發牌。
At that time the authorities were unable to give an explanation . They only argued that since they were only working in the office no matter who was filing the application they would issue the licence as long as the premises concerned were for residential use and in compliance with the Buildings Ordinance and the Fire Services Ordinance