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對於香港現時的低生育率，政府的支援其實要全方位，而不是顧及小孩出生後數個月的情況而已。
In view of the low fertility rate in Hong Kong at present the Government needs to provide extensive support rather than measures which only cover a period of several months after childbirth
誰來提供育兒服務？
Who will provide child care service?
誰來提供教育服務？
Who will provide education service?
這並非單一的問題。我相信責任並不在僱主身上，而在整體社會。
So we are not facing just one single issue and I believe it is not a responsibility to be borne by employers but the entire society instead
對於大部分議員所說的煽情情況，其實我也明白，亦是事實，但要解決問題，並不是把責任完全推卸給商界，因為如果商界在香港撐不住，整個香港也會撐不住。
That is the reality . However shifting the responsibility completely to the business sector is not the solution to the problem . If the business sector in Hong Kong is unable to cope the entire Hong Kong will also collapse
這次並非單一的福利政策，而是一堆。
Here we are not talking about just one single welfare policy but a whole raft of others
如果只是由3天增至5天而其他情況不變，局長，我會支持將侍產假增至1個月。
Secretary if it is just about extending paternity leave from three days to five days with other things kept unchanged I will even support an extension to one month
大家討論問題時，議員發言應該要公道，讓香港市民知道所有議案除了好處外也有壞處。
During our discussion Members should speak fairly so as to inform Hong Kong people of the pros and cons of each proposal and I have just explained the relevant drawbacks
我完全明白，因為我知道羅局長由民主選舉產生，也是非建制派中的長期領袖，現時加入政府機構，我相信你在數年內應該有甚為不同的體驗。
This is completely understandable to me for I know that you Secretary Dr LAW were a democratically elected Member before and a leader in the non - establishment camp for a long time . Now that you have joined the Government I believe you must have had quite a different experience during these few years
今屆施政報告中，特首推出的很多政策都不是從商界的角度着想，而是從大部分市民的角度着想，包括土地。
In the Policy Address this year many policies introduced by the Chief Executive say the land policy are not formulated based on consideration of the business sector but the public in general
我身為商界代表，有很多的營商方式，今屆施政報告的內容都不是favour我，而是favour另一方面，但是，你猜他們會投票支持施政報告嗎？
As a representative of the business sector I find that the current Policy Address does not favour our many business practices . It is the opposite side which finds its favour . Still do you think they will vote in favour of the Policy Address?
不過，不要緊，大家的立場不同。
Anyway it does not matter as our stances are different
商界也一樣，我們很理性，不會全部都反對。
We are very rational and will not oppose everything for the sake of it
正如今天的法案，由3天增至5天，我剛才已表達我的意向，大部分商會表示最多支持增至5天。
For example the Employment Amendment Bill 2018 we talked about today seeks to extend paternity leave from three days to five days . I have just expressed my views towards it and most chambers of commerce have indicated their support for an extension to five days
這往往便是理性的議員和民粹議員的分別。
This is invariably the difference between a rational Member and a populist Member
所以，那些議員要不沒有做足功課，要不便是隨口說，誤導香港市民。
Therefore those Members either have failed to research thoroughly or have made off - the - cuff remarks which mislead Hong Kong people
我想強調，所有"打工仔"有越多假期、越多福利固然是好，你問我想不想，我也很希望每個僱員的薪酬都很高，每個僱員都有很多假期，但是，香港除了僱員外，也需要做生意。
I would like to stress that wage earners getting more leave and more benefits is certainly a nice thing . If you ask me whether I wish so I will say I also hope that employees can get higher pay and more leave . However apart from attending to employees Hong Kong also has to do business
我們不是由國家經營生意，然後全部人都"打工"。
Our businesses are not run by the State with everyone as the employees
如果我們的政策令商界無法做生意，或者生意經營困難的話，只會令我們的經濟下滑，不止影響到該間公司結業，全香港所有人也會受影響。
If the business sector is unable to do business or faces operating difficulties because of our policies it will only result in a slump in our economy . In that case not only the relevant companies will close down everyone in Hong Kong will also be affected
大家看看台灣和日本這十多二十年來的經濟，便會知道是甚麼一回事了。
Simply look at the economy of Taiwan and Japan over these two decades and we will know what will happen
可是，政府現時卻好像傾向靠民粹主義抬頭的一邊站，而勞工界或民粹議員則在推波助瀾，拿周邊地區的勞工法例與香港作比較。
However it seems that the Government has currently sided with the rising populism . Worse still Members from the labour sector or the populist have added fuel to the flame by comparing the labour laws of the surrounding regions with those of Hong Kong
但是，他們說話卻只說一半，只懂斷章取義，譁眾取寵，贏取選民支持，增加福利，爭取民意，但從不考慮社會的承受力和香港的競爭力。
However instead of telling the whole story they have spoken out of context and made shocking remarks to win the support of voters . While seeking to increase welfare benefits to win public support they have never considered the affordability of society and the competitiveness of Hong Kong
現時很多福利國家都正面臨經濟破產，原因只有一個，就是民粹。
Many welfare countries are now on the verge of bankruptcy and the only reason is populism
近日通過的多項 勞工法例均有傾向性，例如有關最低工資的法例和現時的侍產假法案。
The numerous labour laws enacted in recent days have inclinations such as the legislation on minimum wage and the bill on paternity leave under discussion
香港能否做到？
Is it possible to provide such services in Hong Kong?
當然，侍產假越長，對於照顧家庭便越好，但正如我在上一環節說過，香港的競爭力也十分重要。
Of course the longer paternity leave the better support for families . However just as I said in the previous session the competitiveness of Hong Kong is also very important
現時香港的經濟環境並不太好，所以要提高競爭力，便不可以讓成本不斷上升，這點我在上一環節已經提過。
Given that the present economic environment of Hong Kong is less than satisfactory an increasing cost should be avoided in order to enhance our competitiveness . I have already mentioned this point in the previous session
在辯論過程中，我聽到很多非建制派議員在發言時說香港很落後，因為台灣的男士有16星期的侍產假，新加坡也有兩星期。
During the debate I heard many non - establishment Members mention in their speeches that Hong Kong was lagging far behind because a 16 - week paternity leave was provided in Taiwan while a 2 - week paternity leave was provided in Singapore
然而，我們是否希望消滅世界上所有中小微企而只容許大企業存在，或日後所有人都要打工而不要自己做生意呢？
Do we wish to eliminate all MSMEs in the world and only allow large enterprises to exist? . Or will people prefer working as employees to starting their own business in the future?
事實上，自由黨與民建聯和工聯會在很多方面的想法都比較接近，有些人形容我們為建制派。
In fact the Liberal Party does share similar views with DAB and FTU in many respects and some people have described us as the pro - establishment camp
在所羅門的故事中，兩個女人爭奪一個孩子，孩子的母親最終寧願放棄孩子讓給對方，原因是她是真心為自己的孩子。
In the story of King Solomon two women fought for a baby . The mother of the baby eventually decided to give up and let the other woman have the baby because she genuinely wished for the good of the baby
我相信民建聯和工聯會的議員也是一樣，是真心為勞工階層，希望可以爭取5天侍產假。
I believe this is the same for Members of DAB and FTU who have genuinely wished for the good of the working class and sought to strive for five days of paternity leave
那些只懂譁眾取寵的議員，只顧爭取一些無法成功爭取的事情，並藉此指罵其他人，這並不是香港之福。
For Members who are concerned about pleasing the public striving for the impossible goals and exploiting the situation to berate others they will not do any good to Hong Kong
香港人一向擁有智慧，並以經濟為先，如果只顧推行福利，不切實際，只會令香港一直落後。
As always Hong Kong people are smart and have given top priority to the economy . It is thus impractical to set our eyes only on the provision of welfare benefits as this will make Hong Kong continue to lag behind
最重要的問題是，政府推出了太多勞工政策，令商界吃不消，尤其是撤銷強積金對沖，政府"搬龍門"令到很多中小微企均叫苦連天，擔心會結業。
The most important problem is that the introduction of too many labour policies by the Government has put an unbearable burden on the business sector especially the abolition of the offsetting arrangement under the MPF System . By moving the goalpost the Government has aroused widespread grievances among MSMEs fearing that they might have to close down
主席，我未有機會聆聽所有同事的發言，不過我聽到今早大部分的發言，也感到非常欣慰，因為事實上他們似乎已從不同的 角度表達一些意見。
President I did not have the chance to listen to all the speeches of our colleagues but I am very delighted to have listened to most of them this morning because they seem in fact to have expressed some views from different perspectives
真正的辯論應該如此，就有關議題從各方面考證、批評，互相觀摩和比較。
A true debate should be like this where verification criticism mutual observation and comparison took place covering various aspects of the subject matter
所以，我有時候不太喜歡唸稿，而是喜歡有機會直接發言，因為事實上正如張宇人議員剛才所說，要照一照鏡子他剛離開會議廳我想先照一照鏡子，究竟我是否適當的僱主，當然我曾經是僱員。
Therefore sometimes I am not so keen to read the script . I would rather have the opportunity to speak directly because as Mr Tommy CHEUNG who has just left the Chamber said earlier on we should look in a mirror . I wish to look in a mirror first to see whether I am a decent employer despite the fact that I used to be an employee
或許因為我本身並不是一名父親，很多朋友分享的經驗，我也不能夠充分體驗甚或表達，所以我想預先就這方面照一照鏡子。
Perhaps it is because I am not a father per se that I am unable to fully relate to or even express the experience shared by many friends so I wish to look in the mirror in advance in this regard
我今天主要想談論3個大方向，一個是關於改變，第二個是關於選擇，第三，我想談談責任的問題。
I wish to mainly talk about three major directions today the first being change the second being choice or freedom and the third being the issue of responsibility
第二，是生意上、工作上或社會競爭環境上的轉變。
This indicates that social changes have made a difference on our needs and stress . Next I would like to talk about changes in business work or the social competitive environment
以往年代有很多兄弟班，講感情，僱主不能過分苛刻，但也不能過分寬鬆。
In the past eras there were many very affectionate brotherly working relationships where the employers could neither be too harsh nor be too lenient and problems were addressed through negotiation and compromise
甚至可能到某個地步，需要好像某些國家一樣，設立養老法監管那些無良的子女呢？
Is it necessary to legislate from the perspective of a multifaceted safeguard? . It may even be possible that up to a certain point we have to introduce an elderly care law as in some countries to regulate those heartless sons and daughters?
這純粹是balance的選擇問題。
This is all a matter of balancing choices
但是，如果增加法例，便會欠缺選擇。
However if legislation is strengthened there will be a lack of choice
一項法例訂立後，只是將標準限死，無論僱主或僱員也只能向那條線靠近，我相信自由黨同事一定會同意，這種做法只是減低社會上的所有選擇和自由，並不是一個自由社會應該有的方向。
Upon enactment a piece of legislation would only set a hard - and - fast standard . Both employers and employees can only bring themselves closer to compliance . I believe that colleagues from the Liberal Party will definitely agree that this approach which only reduces the overall choice and freedom in society is not the direction that a free society should take
更為甚者，我們不斷說用錢鼓勵生育、用錢幫助父親，其實這便削弱了每一個人選擇是否當父母親的自主和自由，因為要靠錢吸引他們，這絕非適當做法。
Even worse we keep alive the notion of spending money to encourage childbirth and help fathers . In fact this undermines every individuals autonomy and freedom to choose to be a parent . This approach is absolutely inappropriate because it relies on monetary attractions
我相信絕大部分父母也不會因為增加少許金錢補貼而選擇當父母。
I believe that the majority of parents would not have chosen to be parents just because of a small amount of additional financial subsidy
一生兒女債，其實絕對不是那數天的問題。
Raising a child is a lifelong commitment . It is definitely not a matter hinging on those several days
所以，如果這樣做，只是進一步削弱人的自主、人的自由。
Therefore such an approach would only further undermine peoples autonomy and freedom
對於大部分想選擇當小僱主、選擇有自由度、選擇創業的人而言，特別是在我們經常強調要鼓勵和支持初創的前提下，我們要考慮究竟選擇甚麼大方向，從而探討法例上應走的方向。
Having regard to most people who opt for becoming small employers enjoying freedom and starting businesses and particularly against the background of our constant emphasis on the need to encourage and support start - ups we have to consider which major direction to take so as to map out the way forward for legislation . Now I talk about the issue of responsibility
我認為這不是我們應有或應鼓勵的方向，起碼對香港來說不是，某些國家可能選擇這樣做，但這是極具爭議的辯論，究竟香港賴以成功、賴以成為眾人喜歡的社會的因素，是要多些自由自在的選擇，還是將我們越來越多的選擇交予老闆、交予政府？
I do not consider this a direction worth taking or encouraging at least not for Hong Kong . Some countries may opt for this approach but it is highly debatable . After all which factor contributes to Hong Kongs success as a generally attractive society the availability of more free choices or the increasing reliance on the bosses and the Government to make choices for us?
所以，在這方面，我希望不斷強調香港環境差了、自由少了、我們被北方政權迫害的人可以多考慮問題。
Therefore in this regard I cannot stress too much that although Hong Kong has experienced a deterioration of environment and a decline in freedom those persecuted by the northern regime may take a deeper look at the problems because all things are interconnected
每件事均互相牽連，我們不應經常一方面批評某些方向轉變，而另一方面卻不斷選擇放棄自由、自決、自主。
We should not always criticize certain changes of direction on the one hand but constantly choose to give up freedom self - determination and autonomy on the other
不用多久，AI便會從各個方位殺到。
It will not take long for AI to loom from all directions
所以，繼數年前成功爭取3天侍產假後，我們希望今天能夠爭取增加至5天，進而希望政府盡快承諾可以增加至7天甚至更多，這是工聯會一直以來的要求。
Therefore after succeeded in securing a paternity leave of three days few years ago we seek to increase it to five days today and then further request the Government to expeditiously undertake to increase it to seven days or even more . This is the longstanding request of FTU
我們希望有好處"落袋"，不想永遠只是呼叫口號，口惠而實不至，道貌岸然地說為市民爭取。
We seek to pocket benefits and do not want to chant empty slogans all the time and we do not want to pose as persons of high morals when fighting for members of the public
工聯會不會做出如此"離地"及宗教化的事情。
FTU will not do something so detached from reality and so religious oriented
第二點，爭取勞工權益的工作不是工聯會獨家的，並沒有獨家這回事。
Secondly the fight for workers rights and interests is not exclusive to FTU and it is not exclusive in any way
只要是有市民、有人的地方，就可以爭取勞工權益，這正是香港有不同政黨的原因。
So long as there are members of the public or people there will be fight for the rights and interests of workers . This is precisely why there are a myriad of political parties in Hong Kong
只要有"打工仔"，就會有勞工問題，所以工聯會一定會繼續為"打工仔"爭取權益。
So long as there are wage earners there will be labour issues and FTU would surely continue to fight for workers rights and interests
因此，我們希望5天侍產假能夠盡快"落袋"，這是最基本的原則。
Therefore we hope that wage earners can expeditiously pocket five days paternity leave . This is the fundamental principle
我相信在這議會內，除工聯會外，只有梁耀忠議員擁有參與勞資談判的經驗。
I believe that in this Council apart from FTU only Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung has the experience of participating in the negotiation between employers and employees
我不是說你，因為你完全不是姣婆。
I am not talking about you because you are not a promiscuous woman at all
我們是被43萬名工會會員捆綁着，因為我們要代表他們為"打工仔"服務。
That is true . We are bundled with our 430 000 members because we have to serve wage earners on their behalf
如果市民聽到黃碧雲議員或其他泛民議員說希望侍產假可以增至7天後予以支持，但最終卻只維持3天侍產假，我相信這不是他們所想的。
If members of the public listened to and supported the proposal put forward by Dr Helena WONG or other pan - democratic Members to increase the paternity leave to seven days it is possible that the relevant leave may remain at three days in the end which I do not think is what they desire
我們希望能夠盡快增加"打工仔"的侍產假，這是工聯會多年來工運的談判策略，是希望有好處"落袋"，然後逐步改善。
We seek to increase wage earners paternity leave as soon as possible . The negotiation strategy adopted by FTU throughout the years is to pocket benefits first and then seek gradual improvements
我們希望泛民，尤其是黃碧雲議員不要再胡言亂語。
We hope that pan - democratic Members especially Dr Helena WONG will not talk nonsense anymore
大家不如盡快完成有關侍產假的討論，並盡快通過《條例草案》。
Let us expeditiously finish the discussion on paternity leave and pass the Bill
此外，我想奉勸朱凱廸議員一句，老子《道德經》有一句古話："千里之行，始於足下"。
In the days to come we will still request Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong to make a pledge by telling us when the duration of paternity leave will be further increased
回頭說我們現在面對的問題，那正是整個城市的家庭友善政策，這從政府統計處提供的數字可見一二。
Let me come back to the problem we are now facing which concerns the family - friendly policies of the entire city and can be reflected to a certain extent in the figures provided by the Census and Statistics Department
相信局長對有關數字相當熟悉，而我只想引述2017年的出生率以作說明。
I am sure the Secretary knows the relevant figures very well and I only wish to cite the birth rate in 2017 for illustration purpose
本地出生率由1986年的每1,000人有13名嬰兒，下降至2003年的7名，其後一度回升至2011年的13.5名，至2016年又回落到8.3名，以及2017年的7.7名。
While the local birth rate has dropped from 13 babies per 1 000 persons in 1986 to 7 babies per 1 000 persons in 2003 the figure once rose back to 13.5 babies in 2011 but dropped again to 8.3 babies in 2016 and further to 7.7 babies in 2017
從政府統計處的數字，可以看到香港每年出生的活嬰數目不斷波動，很多人認為這未必直接受到當局的政策影響。
We can see from the figures provided by the Census and Statistics Department that the number of live births recorded in Hong Kong each year keeps fluctuating but many people think that this may not be a direct consequence of the Governments policies
我們不知道今天稍後的投票結果為何，但5天與7天假期的關鍵分別在於甚麼？
We do not know what voting result we will have later today but what is the critical difference between five days and seven days paternity leave?
我想指出從2018年的福利政策角度出發，今天其實是一個相當具挑戰性的日子。
I wish to point out that from the perspective of the welfare policy implemented in 2018 today is indeed a very challenging day for us
過去一年，我們聽到很多家庭悲劇，較近期的可能有局長印象相當深刻的"臨臨"事件。
Many family tragedies occurred in the past year and a more recent case is perhaps the Lam Lam incident which has left a deep impression on the Secretary
大家也知道，這是間接促成設立幼稚園社工的導火線之一。
We all know that the occurrence of the incident is one of the reasons leading indirectly to the provision of social workers in kindergartens
這並非無止境的苛索，而是追求不斷的進步。
The proposals are not endless extortions but are efforts made to seek continuous improvements
其實，勞資雙方不一定要不斷進行角力，這種拔河其實相當辛苦。
As a matter of fact there is no need for the employees and employers to frequently wrestle with each other and it is indeed very tiring adopting such a confrontational approach
這個機制由甚麼人壟斷，最主要的權力來源又是甚麼？
Who have monopolized this mechanism and from where do they derive their major powers?
是保守派和商界。
These people are from the conservative camp and the business community
立法會未能表達民意，除了有功能界別議員外，政府現在還會採用很多招數，包括褫奪議員資格、褫奪參選者資格等......
The Legislative Council has failed to reflect public opinion . Apart from having functional constituency Members the Government has adopted various tactics such as disqualifying Members and candidates
最初，工聯會信誓旦旦地表示，會替工友選民爭取7天侍產假。
Initially Members from FTU vowed that they would fight for seven days paternity leave for workers but they flinched afterwards
因為這樣做不對，會損害香港最大"話事人"，即商界和保守派的利益。
The reason is that it is not right to do so as it will harm the interests of the paymasters in Hong Kong ie . the business community and the conservative camp
還有一些議員說出很難聽的話，例如，黃定光議員說："恐怕新手爸爸會利用侍產假吃喝玩樂"。
In addition some Members have made offensive remarks . For example Mr WONG Ting - kwong said I am afraid that first - time father may spend their paternity leave having fun and enjoying themselves
我相信7天侍產假不會高於任何進步、開放或已發展地區的平均水平。
I believe that seven days paternity leave entitlement will not be higher than the average paternity leave entitlement in any advanced open or developed regions
1981年，每1,000個適齡婦女的生育率是65.1%，2014年，生育率下跌至35.9%，顯示越來越少人願意生育，市民亦越來越遲生育。
The fertility rate per 1 000 women of childbearing age was 65.1 % in 1981 but it dropped to 35.9 % in 2014 indicating an decreasing number of people who are ready for childbearing and the trend of delayed childbearing
這亦與香港的一些特殊情況有關，包括全世界最長的工時，每星期50小時左右的工時比世界平均工時高出近38%。
This has something to do with the special conditions in Hong Kong including the longest working hours in the world . The weekly working hours of around 50 is almost 38 % higher than the average working hours in the world
由於工時長、工作壓力大、租金和樓價高昂等，很多年輕夫婦都拒絕生育。
Owing to long working hours heavy work pressure high rents and property prices many young couples refuse to have children
不過，政府不會這樣做。
However the Government will not do so and universal suffrage will not be implemented within the foreseeable future
可是，我想問清楚剛才表示非常關注工人的周議員或其政黨，以及表示為工人積極爭取權益的工聯會議員，在表決時，他們如何向數百萬勞動人口交代？
However I would like to ask Mr CHOW who have just expressed concern about workers or his party as well as FTU Members who said that they have actively fought for workers rights and interests how they can give an account to millions of workers when they vote
我要求郭家麒議員澄清他剛才對我的指控。
I seek an elucidation from Dr KWOK Ka - ki about the allegation he has just made against me
主席，開宗明義，我不會反對議員提出的修正案，但同時亦不能支持。
Chairman let me state clearly from the outset that I will not oppose the amendments proposed by Members but neither will I support them
不能支持或不會反對的原因，相信大家也很明白，便是香港工會聯合會一直爭取7天侍產假，將來可能還會有進一步的改善。
Members will probably understand why I neither support nor oppose the amendments . The reason is that The Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU has all along been demanding for seven days paternity leave and further improvements can be made in the future
任何的勞工權益，我們都覺得是"沒有最好，只有更好"。
In respect of labour rights and interests I think there is no best only better
香港人所享有的勞工權益真的大大落後於其他地方，大家提及了很多民間智慧、數據及學者提供的資料，說增加侍產假對家庭關係等方面帶來好處。
The labour rights and interests enjoyed by Hong Kong people lag far behind other places . Members have mentioned a lot of folk wisdom data and information provided by academics to support the view that increasing paternity leave will benefit family relationship and so on
第二，修正案並不是提供一些真正的選擇，而實在是"此路不通"的一條黑路。
Second the amendments are not real options; instead they only lead us down a blind alley
我想作出一些技術上的回應。
I wish to respond to some technical points now
究竟他們是好心做壞事，十分天真的期望政府突然會回心轉意，接納他們的修正案，還是心知肚明卻裝糊塗、擺姿態、"抽政治水"呢？
Are they doing a disservice with good intentions? . Are they so naïve as to expect that the Government will change its mind and accept their amendments? . Or do they understand the situation fully but only pretend to be foolish in order to put up a show and take advantage of the situation for political gains?
市民真的可以思考一下。
Members of the public can really consider these questions themselves
說實話，我反而有點欣賞鄭松泰議員的坦白和坦蕩。
Frankly speaking I somehow appreciate Dr CHENG Chung - tais honesty and frankness
反對派這種做法是無需成本的"政治抽水"，成本只是浪費議會時間。
Thus these Members try to get the best of both worlds . Opposition Members try to take advantage of the situation to get political gains at no cost except the cost of wasting the time of the Legislative Council
朱凱廸議員提出工運策略的問題，指工聯會十分矛盾，一方面覺得現時有很多社會問題、勞工權益不足，但另一方面又要接受現時的制度。
Mr CHU Hoi - dick mentioned the issue of labour movement strategy . He said that FTU has been caught in a dilemma . While it thinks that there are many social problems and labour rights and interests are inadequate it has to accept the existing system
一種制度的存在有其客觀需要，我們覺得在客觀條件之下，制度需要繼續就會繼續，否則便會推動改變。
In fact the existence of a system depends on the objective needs . If we think that under the objective circumstances the system needs to persist then it will persist; otherwise we will advocate changes
客觀的環境是，現時"打工仔"的聲音的確比較弱，我們因而更需要一個勞資協商的平台。
Under the objective circumstances the voices of wage earners are relatively weak thus we need a platform for negotiations between employers and employees
我剛才開始發言時指政府偏袒商界，其實背後涉及更大的制度問題。
In the earlier part of my speech I said that the Government favoured the business sector . In fact this relates to the bigger underlying problem
許智峯議員提到現時行政長官受制於選舉管理委員會的制度，因而受制於工商界的壓力，我認為他說得對。
According to Mr HUI Chi - fung the Chief Executive is now restrained by the system of the Electoral Affairs Commission and so she is restrained by pressures from the commercial and industrial sectors . I think he is right
然而，是誰和哪個陣營否決了2015年的政改方案，令我們不能在2017年普選行政長官？
Nevertheless who and which camp voted against the constitutional reform package in 2015 such that we could not select the Chief Executive by universal suffrage in 2017?
呼喊口號及佔領道德高地很容易，但這從來也不是我們工聯會議員的選擇。
It is very easy to chant slogans and stand on high moral grounds but we Members of FTU have never chosen this option
工聯會成立了70年，作為一個負責任的工會團體，我們會進行諮詢。
As a responsible trade union federation established 70 years ago FTU consults its members
當然，我們有諮詢工聯會屬會，正如何啟明議員剛才提到，有85%的工會認為勞工界應該接納政府把侍產假由3天增至5天的建議，並繼續爭取7天侍產假。
We have certainly consulted our member unions . As pointed out by Mr HO Kai - ming earlier 85 % of the trade unions considered that the labour sector should accept the Governments proposal of increasing paternity leave from three days to five days and continue to fight for seven days leave
這項調查不單訪問了工聯會的屬會，亦諮詢了香港所有註冊工會。
In conducting the survey FTU has not only interviewed its member unions but also consulted all registered trade unions in Hong Kong
我們會認真審時度勢，不能隨便用工人的實際權益來"做show"，或甚至如朱凱廸議員所說，要迫政府賭一局。
We will carefully consider the prevailing circumstances and will not casually exploit workers rights and interests to put up a show or even compel the Government to bet with us as suggested by Mr CHU Hoi - dick
我們不是賭徒，主席。
We are not gamblers Chairman