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議員無須在這個議題上繼續"拉布"，應盡快表決。
Instead of filibustering on this subject Members should expeditiously proceed to vote
代理主席，律政司沒有需要就議案運用發言的機會。
Deputy President the Department of Justice does not need to make use of the speaking time to speak on this motion
盧偉國議員，你是否打算答辯？
Ir Dr LO Wai - kwok do you wish to reply?
代理主席，立法會每年要處理相當多數量的附屬法例，其中提交大會要求本會察悉並讓議員發言的，在以往每年均不多。
Deputy President the Legislative Council handles a large number of subsidiary legislation each year . In the past the number of subsidiary legislation requesting this Council to take note of and Members to speak on was not that many each year
一般而言，也只是由相關小組委員會主席發言，有時可能有少數議員補充發言，而察悉亦不會令附屬法例有任何改變。
In general only the Chairmen of the relevant subcommittees would speak and occasionally a few Members might speak to provide further comments . Taking note of an item of subsidiary legislation will not make any changes
所以，有大量議員就一項"察悉議案"發言的情況，甚為罕見。
Hence it was very rare that a large number of Members spoke on a take - note motion
代理主席，我在此要陳述一些事實，這些事實都有立法會的會議紀錄可供參考。
Deputy President I would like to give an account of some facts all of which can be found in the Records of Proceedings of the Legislative Council
《2017年實習律師規則》於2017年5月26日在憲報刊登，並於2017年5月31日的立法會會議上提交本會省覽。
The Trainee Solicitors Amendment Rules 2017 were gazetted on 26 May 2017 and laid on the table of this Council on 31 May 2017
在2017年6月2日的內務委員會會議上，議員決定無須就該附屬法例成立小組委員會，亦沒有議員對《修訂規則》提出任何修訂，所以《修訂規則》原封不動地通過了。
At the House Committee meeting on 2 June 2017 Members decided that it was not necessary to set up a subcommittee on the Amendment Rules and no Member had proposed any amendments to it . The Amendment Rules were thus passed without any amendment
今次的"察悉議案"，是關乎《〈2017年實習律師規則〉公告》的附屬法例。
This take - note motion is concerned with the Trainee Solicitors Amendment Rules 2017 Commencement Notice the Notice
請大家注意，是《公告》，而且已獲通過，內容是甚麼？
Please take note that it is the Notice we are talking about and the Notice has already been passed . What is it about?
香港律師會會長蘇紹聰2017年8月21日。
Thomas S T SO President of The Law Society of Hong Kong 21 August 2017
" 我動議中止辯論是項"察悉議案"，對《修訂規則》的實施並無影響。
I moved a motion to adjourn the debate on the take - note motion . It does not affect the implementation of the Amendment Rules
我只是認為沒有必要在大會討論《修訂規則》的生效日期，因為這應該是小組委員會的工作。
I just do not find it necessary to debate the commencement date of the Amendment Rules at a Council meeting as it should be the work of the subcommittee concerned
如果我的中止待續議案獲得通過，《修訂規則》將如期在2018年1月8日生效，律師行業可按此實行。
If the adjournment motion I moved is passed the Amendment Rules will come into operation as scheduled on 8 January 2018 and the legal profession can enforce the Amendment Rules accordingly
事實上，《〈2017年實習律師規則〉公告》小組委員會只是在2017年10月25日上午舉行了一次會議，連同選舉主席也只是用了23分鐘便結束會議。
As a matter of fact the Subcommittee on Trainee Solicitors Amendment Rules 2017 Commencement Notice only held one meeting in the morning on 25 October 2017 and the duration of the entire meeting including the election of the Chairman was only 23 minutes
小組委員會在其向內務委員會提交的報告中明確表示，對《公告》並無異議，亦不會就《公告》提出任何修訂。
The Subcommittee stated very clearly in its report to the House Committee that it had no objection to the Notice and would not propose any amendment to it
代理主席，與此相映成趣的是，非建制派議員在上周至昨天及今天的會議上，卻紛紛就我的中止待續議案，用盡各人的發言時間，總 共用了大約8小時。
Deputy President it is interesting to note that non - establishment Members spoke on my adjournment motion one after another at the meetings held last week yesterday and today; and each of them have used up their speaking time . Altogether they spent a total of eight hours
他們好像如夢初醒，突然對《修訂規則》的生效日期產生興趣。
It seemed that they have just awakened from a dream suddenly taking interest in the commencement date of the Amendment Rules
代理主席，眾多非建制派議員發言，反對我的中止待續議案，理由大都離不開說我剝奪他們就《公告》發言的權利，還有就是說我何不直言想"剪布"。
Deputy President many non - establishment Members spoke against my adjournment motion for a similar reason . They mainly accused me of depriving them of their right to speak on the Notice and they also questioned why I did not directly say I wanted to cut off the filibuster
代理主席，有非建制派議員咬牙切齒地說我很"得戚"，嘴角帶着微笑。
Deputy President some non - establishment Members said in rage about my smug smile
事實上，面對"拉布"為香港社會帶來的嚴重損害，我又如何笑得出來？
In fact when thinking of the serious harm caused to our society by filibustering how could I possibly smile?
笑也只能是苦笑。
Even if I smiled it could only be a bitter smile
非建制派在立法會不斷發動"拉布"，禍及各項民生及經濟措施。
Non - establishment Members incessant filibustering in the Legislative Council has jeopardized various livelihood and economic measures
我代表工程界，對此體會最深。
As the representative of the engineering sector I have very strong feelings
本港現時出現一種風氣，就是每逢有發展項目，均會遇到極大阻力。
There is a prevailing trend in Hong Kong that each development project is met with great resistance
立法會的"拉布"行為，對工程業界造成很大損害，令工務工程如"斷截禾蟲"一樣，"一時做死，一時餓死"。
Legislative Council Members filibustering has adversely affected the engineering sector as works projects cannot be carried out in a continuous manner . Sometimes we have far more jobs than we can handle and at other times we are have no job at all
代理主席，盧偉國議員剛才說："每逢有發展項目，均會遇到極大阻力"，這句話是甚麼意思呢？
Deputy President what did Ir Dr LO Wai - kwok mean when he said every development project is met with great resistance?
特別是針對今年財務委員會的情況，我想請盧偉國議員作出澄清。
May I ask Ir Dr LO Wai - kwok to clarify especially in connection with the work of the Finance Committee this year?
本港大大小小的工程公司，都出現不同程度的工作量不足，一些公司被迫裁減人手，規模大的公司就接海外工程。
Engineering companies in Hong Kong big and small are all faced with the problem of insufficient workload . Some companies are forced to lay off staff while larger companies engage in overseas works projects
這數年來，立法會批出的工務工程數量......
In the last few years the number of public works projects approved by the Legislative Council
工程撥款與《議事規則》無關，他跳了兩步，你為何不向他作出提示？
Funding provisions for works projects are unrelated to the Rules of Procedure . He has skipped two steps . Why didnt you remind him?
這數年來，立法會批出的工務工程數量時高時低，幾經辛苦......
In the last few years the number of public works projects approved by the Legislative Council fluctuated greatly
幾經辛苦才批准東涌的填海項目，中九龍幹線討論多年才通過撥款。
Having overcome many difficulties the land reclamation project in Tung Chung was finally approved and the funding application for the Central Kowloon Route was approved after years of discussion
工程的規劃、進度安排需要有序進行，但如果被政治爭拗打亂，不但影響業界，也會對市民造成損失。
The planning and progress of works need to be carried out in an orderly manner and if there is any disruption as a result of political disputes it will not only affect the engineering sector but the public will also suffer losses
代理主席，非建制派議員在發言中亦挖苦建制派議員要實行"逢45分休息15分鐘"的策略，要在立法會死守，要在鐘聲下吃飯和上廁所，我只有憤怒而已，何"得戚"之有哉？
Deputy President non - establishment Members ridiculed pro - establishment Members for adopting the strategy of resting 15 minutes every 45 minutes sitting desperately in the Chamber and having meals or going to the toilet during the ringing of the summoning bell . All I have is indignation how can I have a hint of smug self - satisfaction?
毛孟靜議員，你有甚麼規程問題？
Ms Claudia MO what is your point of order?
代理主席，本會"拉布"成風，已嚴重影響議會的正常運作。
Deputy President the rampant filibustering in this Council has seriously hindered the normal operation of this Council
按非建制派議員的"拉布"慣例，即使是毫無爭議性的議案，他們往往會先行用盡辯論時間，然後在辯論末段動議中止待續議案，《能源效益條例》的擬議決議案如是，《刑事訴訟程序條例》的擬議決議案亦如是，實際效果等於把辯論時間再加倍。
According to the usual practice of non - establishment Members in filibustering during the debate on any motion even non - controversial ones they will first use all their speaking time to speak on the motion and then move an adjournment motion toward the end of the debate . This strategy was applied to the debates on the proposed resolutions under the Energy Efficiency Ordinance and also under the Criminal Procedure Ordinance . In so doing they had practically doubled the debate time
有傳媒朋友計算，黃國健議員和我在上星期先後動議的中止待續議案，可節省大約18小時的發言時間，有助本會處理其他議程項目。
According to the estimate of the media the adjournment motions moved respectively by Mr WONG Kwok - kin and I last week would save about 18 hours of speaking time thereby allowing this Council to deal with other agenda items
傳媒朋友掌握 本會的脈搏，所以還是他們"心水清"。
As friends of the media have kept tabs on the pulse of this Council they have a clear picture
不過，即使我的中止待續議案起到"剪布"效果，也只是由雙重"拉布"變為一重"拉布"而已。
However even though my adjournment motion was able to cut off the filibuster it could only cut off one of the two rounds of filibusters
代理主席，我希望議員同事支持通過我動議的中止待續議案。
Deputy President I hope that my colleagues will support the adjournment motion that I moved
在我就這項中止待續議案提出待決議題之前，我想提醒議員，根據《議事規則》第402及3條，該議案如獲得通過，辯論即告中止待續；如議案被否決，本會便須繼續就《〈2017年實習律師規則〉公告》的"察悉議案"進行辯論。
Before I put the question on this adjournment motion I wish to remind Members that in accordance with Rule 402 and 3 of the Rules of Procedure if the motion is agreed to the debate shall stand adjourned; if the motion is negatived this Council shall continue to debate the take - note motion on the Trainee Solicitors Amendment Rules 2017 Commencement Notice
我非常質疑你有......
I very much doubt whether you have
現時廖長江議員提出的擬議決議案，是將主席的權力無限充權。
The proposed resolutions to be moved by Mr Martin LIAO seek to provide the President with unlimited power
你說很擔心議員有無限權力，但日後你才是擁有最大權力的人。
You said you were very concerned that Members have unlimited power but it is you who will have the greatest power in the future
這角色衝突與個人利益的嫌疑，你一定要迴避。
It is thus imperative for you to avoid having conflict of roles and personal interest
毛孟靜議員，你是否有規程問題？
Ms Claudia MO do you have a point of order?
你是否想先處理你的問題，讓下一位議員先發言？
Do you wish to deal with your question and let the next Member speak first?
我相信秘書處人員已聽到你提出的疑問，我會請秘書處稍後時間了解一下。
I believe the Secretariat staff have heard the query raised by you . I will ask the Secretariat to look into it later
如果你現在選擇繼續發言，便請繼續。
If you choose to continue your speech now please go ahead
如果你想與秘書處人員溝通，我亦會酌情容許你暫停發言。
If you wish to communicate with the Secretariat staff I will exercise my discretion to allow you to suspend your speech
你是否想繼續發言？
Do you wish to continue?
暫時未有，請你繼續發言。
Not yet . Please continue your speech
今天議會這種情況，真的是打開地獄之門，你倒不如也為整個香港打開毀滅之門，因為這種做法......
This situation in the Legislative Council today is really like opening the door to hell . Why not open the door of destruction of the whole territory too?
我們是代議士，在立法會表達民意，但將來的情況並不會這樣，日後坐在那個座位的人將來可能仍然是你權力無限大，誰"拉布"也不用擔心，如果因為法定人數不足而流會，他可以即時宣布5分鐘後復會，這樣子便行了。
In the future the person in that Chair―who may still be you―will have unlimited powers . No matter who filibusters he needs not worry . If a meeting is aborted because a quorum is not present he can immediately announce resumption of the meeting in five minutes
又說要採用自然光，都是沒用的。
Why do we need such a grand design of the Legislative Council Complex and request the adoption of natural lighting?
歐洲議會有一個代表團來香港訪問，我本來沒有甚麼興趣與他們會面，但他們邀請了我，而他們既然是客人，我便應邀會面。
A delegation of the European Parliament visited Hong Kong . Originally I was not interested in meeting them but they sent me an invitation . Since they were guests I accepted the invitation and met with them
可是，國與國之間的自私是一樣的。
However selfishness between countries is just the same
早前有一位英國上議院的客人來港，他竟然能夠入境，很奇怪，對嗎？
Earlier on a guest from the House of Lords came to Hong Kong . To my surprise he was granted entry . It was very strange right?
應該不准他入境，那是外交問題，但他竟然能夠入境。
He should have been refused entry . That was a diplomatic issue but surprisingly he was granted entry
我第一句便問他為何能夠入境，他也哈哈笑，然後說他亦認同英國作為《中英聯合聲明》的簽署國，對香港有道義責任。
I asked him right at the outset why he was granted entry . He laughed . Then he said he also agreed that being a signatory to the Sino - British Joint Declaration the United Kingdom had a moral obligation towards Hong Kong
我們自削權力，這不單是自削，更是"自閹"，是把文明社會中，行政、立法和司法三方中的議會權力"自閹"。
We are undermining our own powers . This is more than undermining our own powers . It is in fact self - castration slashing the powers of the Council in the tripartite relationship among the executive legislature and Judiciary in a civilized society
我當時的感覺是，中國是宗主國，他來港述說宗主國的一套，說到三權合作，也無可厚非。
My then feeling was that as China was the sovereign State it was understandable that he took the line of the sovereign State and talked about cooperation of powers in Hong Kong
但我到各間學校出席講座時，已向小朋友和年青人說明，千萬不要因為經常聽到老師甚至家中父母說做人要有團隊精神和合作精神，便以為合作一定是好東西，這是錯誤的。
However when I attended seminars in various schools I made it clear to the children and youngsters that they should never misunderstand that cooperation must be something good simply because they often heard their teachers or even parents say that we have got to have team spirit and the spirit of cooperation . This is wrong
我說香港大陸化，"大陸化"這3個字不是我自己虛構出來的。
I said Hong Kong is being Mainlandized . Mainlandization is not my fabrication
我曾是《信報》的忠實讀者，《信報》當時的社評表示，習近平來港談及三權合作，似乎想把香港大陸化。
I was once a dedicated reader of the Hong Kong Economic Journal . At that time its editorial said that it seemed XI Jinping who talked about cooperation of powers during his visit to Hong Kong wanted to Mainlandize Hong Kong
從2008年至2017年，足足9年時間，大家看到香港每況愈下的情況，為下一代感到非常擔心。
For nine whole years from 2008 to 2017 we have seen the deteriorating situation in Hong Kong . We feel very worried for the next generation
這是完全不能想象的，"拉布"是文明社會的議員的最後防線和最後的武器，也是我們最終無法可施時，用作推倒惡法、拉倒惡賊的手段。
This is totally inconceivable . Filibustering is the last line of defence and the last resort for Members in a civilized society . It is also a means for us to sabotage draconian laws and defeating culprits when we ultimately have no other option
尤其是家人，尤其是自己的下一代，大家真的能過到自己的一關嗎？
Young people may also meet accidents . How would we like other people especially our family members and our next generation to remember us after we have passed away? . Can we really live up to our conscience?
我在這個議會內已度過近6年，香港一直沉淪，速度快得不能置信。
I have passed almost six years in this Council . Hong Kong has been going down fast at an incredible speed
我們現在經常提到語言"偽術"，是虛偽的偽；四處充斥着"偽人"，也是虛偽的偽。
Now we often talk about double talk the art of hypocrisy . Hypocrites abound acting with hypocrisy
"偽"字是人為的，說到底，是關乎個人信念。
Hypocrisy is a matter of personality . After all it is about someones personal belief
我希望大家能最後一次撫心自問，是否真的覺得對得起自己？
I hope we can ask ourselves frankly for the last time . Do we really think we are acting in good faith?
我經常說，今天的新聞，就是明天的歷史，我們現在要為香港的歷史負責，更一定要為我們的下一代負責。
As I often say todays news is history tomorrow . Now we have got to be responsible for the history of Hong Kong; so must we for our next generation
主席，你作為主席，以及我們作為立法會議員，都宣誓效忠《基本法》。
President you as the President and we as Legislative Council Members have all sworn to uphold the Basic Law
在經你批准的《議事規則》修訂建議中，包括廖長江議員所提降低立法會全體委員會法定人數的修訂建議。
Among the admissible proposals to amend the Rules of Procedure RoP Mr Martin LIAO proposed to reduce the quorum of a committee of the whole Council
我對此深表關注，因為你在所發出的文件中表示，早前立法會曾向資深大律師取得兩份法律意見，而該兩份法律意見都明確表示這項修訂建議會違反《基本法》。
I have grave concern over this proposal because as stated in your ruling the two sets of legal advice obtained by the Legislative Council from Senior Counsel had made it clear that this proposal would contravene the Basic Law
就是第七十五條，當中訂明立法會舉行會議的法定人數為不少於全體議員的一半；第七十五條第二款亦訂明，"立法會議事規則由立法會自行制定，但不得與本法相抵觸"。
It is Article 75 which states that the quorum for the meeting of the Legislative Council shall be not less than one half of all its members . It is also stipulated in Article 752 that [t]he rules of procedure of the Legislative Council shall be made by the Council on its own provided that they do not contravene this Law
你個人既曾宣誓效忠《基本法》，為何容許某些議員......
Since you have sworn to uphold the Basic Law how can you allow some Members for those who have acted against the Basic Law they should bear their own responsibility for their wrongs
你可否詳細解釋，你會在甚麼情況下聽從外聘大律師的意見，甚麼情況下不聽從？
Can you please explain to us in detail when you will and will not take on board the advice of outside counsel?
本會的法律顧問可否清楚交代此事，避免本會陷入憲制危機？
Can the Legal Adviser of the Legislative Council give a clear account of this matter to prevent this Council from falling into a constitutional crisis?
我在書面回覆中，已說明了我批准廖長江議員動議擬議決議案的法理依據。
I have already stated in my written reply the legal justification for admitting the proposed resolution moved by Mr Martin LIAO
我是聽取了法律顧問的意見後，才作出裁決。
I made the ruling after considering the legal advice
我已在裁決中表明，我認為廖長江議員的擬議決議案未必違反《基本法》。
I have stated clearly in my ruling that I think Mr Martin LIAOs proposed resolution may not necessarily contravene the Basic Law
葉建源議員，你可以選擇是否澄清。
Mr IP Kin - yuen you may choose whether or not to make an elucidation
代理主席，我很樂意解釋。
Deputy President I am happy to elaborate on it
主席，我想你裁決，謝偉俊議員剛才在會議廳內公然說出"超"字，是否屬於粗鄙或冒犯性的言詞？
President I would like you to make a ruling . Just now Mr Paul TSE openly said the word 超 in the Chamber . Is it vulgar or offensive language?
所以，大家不應該把"拉布"看成甚麼洪水猛獸。
For this reason Members should not regard filibustering as a kind of scourge
有建制派議員批評民主派無所不用其極，說我們這樣做十分不妥，所以要撥亂反正，要"剪布"，義正詞嚴、理直氣壯地要"剪布"。
Some pro - establishment Members have criticized the pro - democracy camp for resorting to all possible means saying that it is very inappropriate for us to filibuster; hence they have to right the wrong and boldly cut the filibuster off
代理主席，我希望你當主席時，裁決標準亦要平等一點，謝偉俊議員剛才發言時東拉西扯，你都沒有阻止他或"溫馨提示"他。
Deputy President I hope you will adopt the same criteria when you make a ruling in your capacity as the President . When Mr Paul TSE digressed in his speech just now you did not stop him or give him a friendly reminder
我作為代理主席，有權亦有責任要求議員論述與議題相關的事宜，但我明白大家很想發言，所以我已處理得相對寬鬆。
In my capacity as Deputy President I have the right and I am duty - bound to request a Member to discuss matters that are relevant to the subject . As I understand that Members are eager to speak I have already adopted a very lenient approach
我再次提醒你，你已是第二十七位議員發言，我亦已容許你在超過7分鐘的發言中，用了不少時間表達你的感受。
I would like to remind you again that you are the 27 Member speaking in this debate . I have already allowed you to spend quite a lot of time expressing your feelings in your speech lasting more than seven minutes
這是赤裸裸地把民主派掃在一旁，令他們以後無法"發圍"，限制他們成立甚麼委員會調查公眾所關心的事。
They are making all such deceitful remarks and blatantly marginalizing the pro - democracy camp so that in future we will be unable to pose any meaningful challenge by establishing a certain committee to investigate matters of public concern
發言離題，我不知道黃碧雲議員是否拿錯了下一節辯論的發言稿，所以請你叫她矯正，否則叫她停止發言。
Her speech is irrelevant to the subject . I wonder whether Dr Helena WONG has mistakenly taken the script of her speech for the next debate session so will you please urge her to correct herself or stop speaking
我希望議會可以暢順運作，亦希望能讓大家發言。
I hope that the legislature can operate smoothly and I also hope that I can allow Members to speak
但我請你在發言時對題，我已是第三次提醒你。
But I urge you to make your speech relevant to the subject and I am reminding you for the third time
代理主席，我非常對題，一如射箭般，中！
Deputy President my speech is very relevant just like shooting an arrow and hit a bulls - eye!
如果大家想議會較為暢順，很簡單，就是請盧偉國議員和各位建制派議員不要在我發言時不時站起來發言，代理主席，你提示一下他們，好嗎？
Laughter If Members want the meeting to be conducted smoothly simply ask Ir Dr LO Wai - kwok and other pro - establishment Members not to rise to speak when I am giving a speech . Deputy President will you give them a reminder?
有人以為"剪布"掃除地雷後，以後便會風平浪靜，但這世界哪有如此簡單的事？
Some hold the view that after cutting off filibustering and clearing of landmines everything will go smoothly in the future . But how can peaceful days come so easily?
其實民建聯議員應很明白，他們以前常用此口號："破壞容易建設難"，我不知摧毀《議事規則》後，民建聯議員如何向公眾解釋，為何主席的權力無限膨脹，而議員發言的權力、議會辯論的權力卻全面萎縮？
In fact Members from the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong DAB should be fully aware that it is easy to destruct but difficult to construct a slogan that they often cited in the past . After the destruction of RoP I wonder how DAB Members will explain to the public as to why the power of the President should be extended unlimitedly at the expense of fully eroding Members right to speak and right to debate in the legislature
我們如何對得起香港人？
How can we be accountable to Hong Kong people?
我們的議會走出這一步，以後將會面對更大困難。
If we take this step in the legislature we will face even greater difficulties in the future
如果議會內和平辯論的空間被壓縮，我看到紅燈亮起，我們不是走向天堂而是地獄。
If the room for peaceful debate in the legislature is compressed I will see red lights being turned on and we will be heading for hell instead of heaven
主席，我們無意挑戰你的權力。
President we have no intention of challenging your authority
你作為主席，當然有權作最終裁決，亦不容受到挑戰。
As the President you certainly have the authority to make final rulings which may not be challenged
有關我們就《議事規則》提出的修訂議案，我想提出規程問題。
Regarding our amending motions on RoP I would like to raise a point of order
我知道主席已作出書面答覆，不過我不滿意，所以要在會議上提出。
I know the President has made a written reply but I am not satisfied with it and so I have to raise this point at this meeting
主席，我懇請你再次考慮剛才各位議員表達的意見。
President I sincerely urge you to reconsider the views expressed by Members just now
主席，希望你再次考慮。
President I hope that you will give a second thought
主席，我明白你想處理規程問題，我也想處理規程問題。
President I understand that you want to deal with the point of order so do I
根據《議事規則》第39a條的規定，"議員不得打斷其他議員的發言―除非起立要求就規程問題發言"。
According to RoP 39a A Member shall not interrupt another Member except―by rising to a point of order
你應該先停止謝偉俊議員的發言，讓我提出規程問題。
You should have stopped Mr Paul TSE from speaking and let me raise my point of order
主席，謝偉俊議員不斷插言，我請你控制他的情緒，他不太能夠控制自己的情緒。
President Mr Paul TSE has kept interrupting will you please control his emotion as he cannot exercise self - control
我當時並未提出規程問題。
I have yet to raise a point of order at that time
我正在處理你的規程問題。
I am now handling your point of order
請你提出規程問題，否則便請坐下。
Please raise your point of order otherwise please sit down
我也希望議員嚴格遵守《議事規則》，在會議過程中保持肅靜。
I also hope that Members will strictly comply with RoP and remain silent throughout the meeting
我不管以往的做法為何，但如果社會認為主席處事不公，沒有給予議員合理時間進行辯論，這樣會否削弱整個立法機關的公信力？
I do not care about the previous practice but if the community considers the President unfair and has not allowed a reasonable time for Members to debate will this undermine the credibility of the entire legislature?
接下來是一項規程問題。
My next point is a point of order
坐在我左手邊的議員的想法便是這樣，他們嫌塞車、嫌花時間，便要修改規則，視規矩如無物，說改便改，但最荒謬的是，現在在眾目睽睽之下，讓香港人目睹立法會將《基本法》訂明為市民監督政府的應有之義和責任刪除。
The thinking of the Members to my left is exactly that . They complained about traffic jams and time consumption so they disregarded all rules and insisted on amending RoP . The most ridiculous point is that the Legislative Council is being stripped of its due responsibility stipulated in the Basic Law to oversee the Government right before the eyes of all Hong Kong people
有些人說"拉布"花時間，其實"拉布"真的很花時間，但為何要"拉布"呢？
Some people said filibustering is time - consuming . Indeed filibustering is very time - consuming but why do we have to filibuster?
今天的議會是怎樣的呢？
What is the status of this Council today?
70位議員之中，有35位來自功能界別，無數零票議員，正如坐在台上的主席便是最好的例子，他零票當選，沒有一名香港人曾經投票支持他，但他可以坐在這裏當主席，坐在這裏幫忙投票，決定我們的命運。
The President sitting up there is a good example . He received zero vote . Not even one Hong Kong voter has voted for him but he can chair the voting here as the President and decide our fate
特區政府當然是他們的老闆，但最重要的是北京政府。
The SAR Government is one of course but the Beijing Government is the most important one
既有政治目的，也有實質目的。
There are both political and substantial purposes
實質利益當然有，這些上千億元的工程項目，取得最多合約的均是國企、中資企業。
There are of course substantial benefits too . These projects costing some 100 billion are mostly contracted out to State enterprises and Chinese enterprises
這是一整個系統、一整個集團。
An entire system an entire group is in operation
大陸有低端人口，我們現正跟有低端人口的政府融合，很快香港人也會變為低端人口，因為高端的在這裏，高端人口便與政府朋比為奸，做盡不義之事。
There is low - end population in the Mainland . We are actually integrating with a Government with low - end population and Hong Kong people will become low - end population too because the high - end population is here ganging up with the Government to do all sorts of evil deed
我們以往說立法會要遵守《議事規則》，請大家不要扮傻，我們說的是英國的《議事規則》。
We used to say that the Legislative Council should abide by RoP . Please do not pretend to be foolish . We were talking about the Standing Orders in the United Kingdom where every member of the House of Commons are returned by election
英國下議院每一位議員也由選舉選出，你有甚麼資格說自己被選出來呢？
What makes you qualified to say you were elected?
功能界別小圈子零票議員自動當選，然後說自己代表香港人。
Members elected ipso facto in the coterie election of function constituencies claimed to represent Hong Kong people