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《條例草案》建議，適用於合資格飛機出租商及合資格飛機租賃管理商的有關活動，所得利潤的利得稅稅率，訂為現行法團利得稅稅率16.5%的一半，即8.25%。
The Bill proposes that the tax rate on profits derived from activities of qualifying aircraft lessors and qualifying aircraft leasing managers shall be half of the prevailing profits tax rate of 16.5 % for corporation ie
同時，《條例草案》訂明有關飛機必須由合資格飛機出租商所擁有，以防止透過分租進行跨境避稅。
The Bill also provides that the subject aircraft must be owned by the qualifying aircraft lessor so as to prevent cross - border tax abuse via subleasing
就擁有權作出規定是有必要的，是符合最新的國際標準，用以打擊侵蝕稅基和轉移利潤的情況。
The ownership requirement is necessary so as to ensure compliance with the latest international standards to combat base erosion and profit shifting BEPS
考慮到航空融資業界的運作，《條例草案》訂立了"安全港"規則，使利潤主要來自於經營，以及資產主要用於合資格飛機租賃管理活動的飛機租賃管理商，也可以按上述半額稅率課稅。
Having considered the operation of the aviation finance industry we have prescribed in the Bill a safe harbour rule to allow aircraft leasing managers having profits primarily from and assets primarily for their qualifying aircraft leasing management activities to enjoy the aforementioned half - rate
打擊損害性稅務措施是BEPS方案中4個最低標準之一。
Countering harmful tax practices is one of the four minimum standards of the BEPS package
在確定某優惠稅務制度是否具潛在損害性時，有害稅收實踐論壇會考慮多個因素，其中一個因素是"有關稅務制度與本地經濟分隔"。
In determining whether a preferential tax regime is potentially harmful FHTP would take into account a number of factors one of which is that the regime is ring - fenced from the domestic economy
今年3月中旬，政府得悉有害稅收實踐論壇在確定優惠稅務制度是否具潛在損害性時，會就"分隔"安排，採取非常嚴謹及狹隘的定義。
In mid - March 2017 the Administration was informed that FHTP would adopt a rigid and narrow interpretation on the ring - fencing factor when determining whether a preferential tax regime was potentially harmful
若政府未能回應經合組織對損害性稅務措施的關注，將會影響香港作為國際金融中心的聲譽。
Failure to address OECDs concerns about harmful tax practices will jeopardize Hong Kongs reputation as an international financial centre
與此同時，歐盟已開展工作，以期於今年年底制訂"不合作稅務管轄區"名單。
Meanwhile the European Union has kicked off an exercise to draw up a list of non - cooperative tax jurisdiction by the end of 2017 and one of its concerns is the existence of the aforementioned harmful tax measures
此外，一些業界代表團體向法案委員會表示關注"非香港飛機營運商"的定義。
Moreover deputations from the industry have expressed concerns to the Bills Committee on the definition of non - Hong Kong aircraft operator
其實，這定義某程度在《條例草案》的條文第14H條有提及。
In fact the definition is to a certain extent mentioned in the proposed section 14H of the Bill
《開普敦公約》的目的是促進各締約國統一規範高價值的移動設備，包括飛機項目的租賃或融資交易，通過強化債權人和出租人的利益保護，減少債權人和出租人的交易風險，以降低購買租賃飛機的成本。
The Cape Town Convention seeks to facilitate the adoption of an universal regulatory regime on mobile equipment of high value including the leasing or financing of aircraft items among the state parties to the Convention . The Convention seeks to reduce the transaction risks borne by creditors and lessors through strengthening protection of their interests so that they can lower the costs on purchasing or leasing aircraft
當然，從保障方面而言，有其作用。
The Convention is certainly helpful in respect of protection
在香港方面，我們目前未有加入《開普敦公約》，但既然我們現在銳意發展飛機租賃的業務，我們計劃首先提供現時建議的稅務安排，以推動香港發展飛機租賃的業務，在參考業界的意見和經過進一步思考，會適時考慮會否加入《開普敦公約》。
As far as Hong Kong is concerned we are yet to join the Cape Town Convention . Given that we are determined to develop aircraft leasing business we plan to take forward the present tax arrangement proposal first so as to promote this industry in Hong Kong and we will further consider the way forward after considering the views of the industry players and decide whether or not to join the Convention at an opportune time
事實上，除了擴建機場，特別在區域內發揮香港國際機場的領引作用之外，剛才亦提到我們做航空融資的工作。
In fact apart from expanding the Hong Kong International Airport especially to the effect of establishing it as the leading airport in the region we will also develop aviation financing which I have mentioned just now
機場管理局也新近成立香港國際航空學院，培訓本地及區域航空人才；在2014年，政府得到立法會的支持，注資成立1億元的海運及空運人才培訓基金。
The Airport Authority recently established the Hong Kong International Aviation Academy to nurture local and regional aviation talents . In 2014 the Government secured funding approval from the Legislative Council and established the 100 million Maritime and Aviation Training Fund
這些都是針對剛才發言議員所關注的有關人才培訓的問題。
All these efforts are focused on talent training over which Members have expressed concerns just now
主席，《條例草案》對推動香港發展飛機租賃業務非常重要，亦有助帶動對本地金融和各專業服務行業的需求，進一步鞏固香港的國 際金融中心地位，令這地位更立體地發揮作用。
President the Bill is instrumental in promoting aircraft leasing business in Hong Kong and it will also help drive demand in local financial industries and various professional services which will further consolidate Hong Kongs status as the international financial centre thus providing an opportunity for Hong Kong to showcase its multi - dimensional status
涂謹申議員剛才亦指出其重要性，同時強化香港作為國際航空樞紐的實力。
Mr James TO also pointed out just now the importance of the Bill saying that it can strengthen Hong Kongs strength as the international aviation hub
所以，我懇請議員支持《條例草案》及稍後我會提出的修正案。
I thus earnestly urge Members to support the Bill and the amendments I will later propose
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：《2017年稅務條例草案》，予以二讀。
I now put the question to you and that is That the Inland Revenue Amendment No . 2 Bill 2017 be read the Second time
代理主席，郭家麒議員剛才要求我澄清他的一些理解，我正打算這樣做。
Deputy Chairman Dr KWOK Ka - ki has asked me to clarify certain of his understanding earlier . In fact I have just planned to do so
第一，不僅是郭議員，我剛才亦聽到其他議員也提到同樣的憂慮。
First apart from Mr KWOK I have heard other Members raising the same concerns too
其實飛機租賃業務和提供相關的稅務特別安排，跟有多少架飛機來香港完全無關，這業務純粹涉及飛機租賃。
Indeed aircraft leasing business and the special taxation arrangement are totally unrelated to the number of aircraft flying to and from Hong Kong . The sector only involves aircraft leasing
全球很多不同的航空公司也會透過某種融資方式租賃飛機，所以租出的飛機並不一定要來香港。
Many airlines worldwide will lease aircraft through certain means of financing so the leased aircraft do not necessarily have to fly to Hong Kong
我希望議員往後辯論時，無須重提這種憂慮。
I hope Members will not repeat this point in future debates
第二，這個特別的稅務安排，不會令一些正在繳稅的人少交稅款。
Second this special taxation arrangement will not result in lower tax payments for some people
我們希望透過一個特別的稅務安排，吸引更多有關業務，然後開始抽稅。
We wish to set up a special taxation arrangement to attract more businesses in the sector which will then be chargeable to tax
因此，政府整體稅收會增加，也等於在公共財政上，政府有能力多做一些符合社會期望的事情。
Therefore the overall tax yield will increase thereby rendering the Government more capable in terms of public finance of introducing measures that better meet societys expectations
有議員提到，現時我們提出建議，是否過於急就章？
Certain Members have queried if the Government has been too hasty in making this proposal?
大家也可以從資料上看到，經濟發展委員會轄下的航運業工作小組，對此已討論了數年時間，也曾跟一些業界團體討論，以及進行研究分析，若要實行某些稅務安排，會帶來甚麼影響？
As Members may have noted from the information on hand the Working Group on Transportation of the Economic Development Commission has examined the issue over the last few years and has deliberated with some trade bodies as well as conducting studies and analyses on the possible impacts of certain taxation arrangements
我們今次提出飛機租賃的稅務安排，採用半額稅率的做法，是參照了剛才說的其他稅務安排。
In fact the half - rate taxation regime for aircraft leasing activities is proposed by reference to the above taxation arrangements
我們現時提出特別的稅務安排，只是針對飛機的租賃業務，不包括其他租賃，也不包括其他行業。
The special taxation arrangement proposed at present only covers aircraft leasing business but not other kinds of leasing activities or other industries
有議員關心，現時條例草案仍然容許稅務局局長享有一定酌情權。
Some Members are concerned that the Bill is still giving certain discretionary power to the Commissioner
其實，稅務法例一向如是，但並不是稅務局局長能夠任意而為。
In fact this has always been the case under tax laws but it does not mean that the Commissioner can do whatever he pleases
第一，法例上有一些特定原則，條例草案第14H條、第14J條和第14L條等，它們均有界定安全港，或界定合資格飛機出租商須參與甚麼活動等。
First the laws have maintained some specific principles . Proposed new sections such as 14H 14J and 14L have provided for the safe harbour rule or defined the activities that qualified aircraft lessors must take part in and so on
稅務局過去處理其他稅務事項時，也是使用類似的原則。
IRD has adopted similar principles in dealing with other taxation arrangements in the past
正如我在二讀辯論總結時所說，稅務局會發出釋義及執行指引，提供比較詳細的說明。
As I have pointed out while making my concluding speech during the Second Reading debate IRD will issue guidelines on definitions and implementations in order to provide more detailed illustrations
事實上，大家也知道，基本上每一個地方的情況也不會完全一樣，所以我們不應該只是仿效其他國家。
As Members may know different places have different circumstances . We should not merely mimic other countries
最後，有議員提及折舊的問題。
Finally some Members have mentioned the issue of deprecation
其實，我們 現時提出的特別安排，就離岸的情況而言，並不牽涉折舊，因為扣減支出並不包括折舊免稅額。
The special regime proposed dose involve deprecation concerning offshore leasing activities as the calculation of deductible expenses does not include deprecation
主席，我動議修正第4、8及10條。修正案內容已載於發給各位委員的文件內。
Chairman I move the amendments to clauses 4 8 and 10 the contents of which are set out in the papers circularized to members
以下我簡介修正案主要的內容。
I now give a brief overview of the amendments
現時，任何法團將飛機租予香港飛機營運商，即境內飛機租賃活動，已可按《稅務條例》獲得扣減該飛機的折舊免稅額，這是現有的評稅方式。
At present any corporation which leases aircraft to Hong Kong aircraft operators in other words those engaging in onshore aircraft leasing activities are entitled to obtain depreciation allowance in respect of the subject aircraft under the Inland Revenue Ordinance . This is the existing tax assessment regime
另一方面，今次討論的《條例草案》中建議的飛機租賃稅務制度，是新增的，應用於離岸租賃活動，希望向離岸飛機租賃活動提供利得稅寬減。
On the other hand the proposed tax regime for aircraft leasing under the Bill presently under discussion is a new addition applicable to offshore leasing activities . It aims at providing profits tax concessions to offshore aircraft leasing activities
基於我在恢復二讀發言中所解釋的情況，政府就原《條例草案》提出修正案。
Owing to conditions explained in the speech I delivered at the resumption of Second Reading the Government proposes amendments to the original Bill
《條例草案》第4條的修正案，目的是修訂建議的《稅務條例》第14G、14H、14I、14J及14M條，將《條例草案》下為離岸飛機租賃活動而設的飛機租賃稅務制度，伸延至境內飛機租賃活動。
Amendments to clause 4 of the Bill seek to amend the proposed clauses 14G 14H 14I 14J and 14M of the Inland Revenue Ordinance and thereby extending the application of the aircraft leasing tax regime under the Bill from offshore aircraft leasing activities to onshore aircraft leasing activities
根據經修正的《條例草案》下的稅務制度，從事境內飛機租賃活動的法團，既可按既有的評稅方式計算其應繳稅款，亦可選擇按新增的評稅方式評稅。
As provided under the amended Bill corporations engaging in onshore aircraft leasing activities can choose to be assessed by the existing tax assessment regime or by the newly added tax assessment regime
然而，有關選擇一經作出便不得撤回，這是針對境 內的法團。
The choice once it is made is however irreversible . This refers to onshore corporations
至於從事離岸飛機租賃活動的法團，仍只可選擇一種評稅方式，即新增的評稅方式。
With regard to corporations engaging in offshore aircraft leasing activities they only have one tax assessment option and that is the new tax assessment regime
主席，政府撥款10億元成立的回收基金於2015年10月起接受回收商申請資助，以提高作業能力和效率。
President the Recycling Fund established by the Government with an allocation of 1 billion has been open since October 2015 for application by recyclers for subsidies for enhancing their operational capabilities and efficiency
然而，有回收商向本人反映，申請資助涉及頗高的行政費和繁複的程序。
However some recyclers have relayed to me that the application for subsidies involves rather high administration fees and complicated procedure
儘管當局已簡化中小型回收企業申請資助，以推行小型標準項目的程序，情況仍然沒有大幅改善。
Although the authorities have streamlined the procedure for the application for subsidies by small and medium - sized recycling enterprises for the implementation of small - scale standard projects the situation has not significantly improved
此外，政府最快於2019年下半年實施都市固 體廢物收費計劃，但社區的廢物分類及回收設施不足。
Besides while the Government will implement the municipal solid waste MSW charging scheme in the second half of 2019 at the earliest there are not enough waste separation and recycling facilities in the community
主席，局長在主體答覆第三部分只列舉了現時政府在現行機制下，利用個別機構和基金提供的環保支援、諮詢及認證審核的工作。
President in part 3 of the main reply the Secretary sets out only the environmental support consultation and certification audits provided by the Government through individual organizations or funds under the existing mechanism
這些工作我是知道的，主席，因為我是香港品質保證局的現任主席，但沒有金錢利益。
I am well aware of these efforts . President I am the incumbent Chairman of the Hong Kong Quality Assurance Agency HKQAA but I have no pecuniary interests
我的質詢第三部分其實是要求政府考慮設立一個具公信力的獨立機構，以推動環保技術的提升和發展，以及相關技術的產業化。
In part 3 of the main question I am actually asking the Government to consider establishing a credible and independent organization to promote the upgrading and development of environmental protection technologies and to facilitate the industrialization of the relevant technologies
這部分是現行機制未能充分照顧的。
This scope of work has yet to be taken care of in the existing mechanism
所以，主席，我的補充質詢是：局長會否認真考慮這項建議？
Thus President my supplementary question is will the Secretary seriously consider this suggestion?
主席，目前全港約有1800間公司和機構從事回收業，當中約有95%是中小企。
President about 1 800 companies or organizations are engaging in recycling business in Hong Kong 95 % of which are small and medium enterprises SMEs
雖然基金於去年年底簡化程序，同時歡迎社企申請，但所批出總額仍然只有7,000多萬元，是不足1億元。
Although the Recycling Fund the Fund streamlined its procedure and started to allow social enterprises to make applications late last year only about 70 million in total less than 100 million has been approved so far
基金的初步申請期限為5年，而設立目的是協助回收業提高作業能力和效率，以及推動回收業的可持續發展，但中小企一般不熟悉申請程序，那麼在餘下兩年如何能夠達到此政策目的？政府實在需要更大力支援。
The fund which is open for applications initially for five years seeks to assist the recycling industry in upgrading its operational capabilities and efficiency for sustainable development . As SMEs are generally not familiar with the application procedure the Government must provide greater support for achieving this policy objective in the remaining two years
局長剛才答覆指現時沒有計劃設立一個環保技術產業化和發展中心，但我想問局長會否考慮要求生產力促進局增加人手，多走一步，主動接觸中小企及提供直接支援，例如協助它們撰寫項目建議書等，以及加快申請流程，而非只是簡單提供建議和指引。
In his reply just now the Secretary has indicated that the Government has no plan to establish a centre for industrialization and development of environmental protection technologies . In this respect I would like to ask if the Secretary would consider requesting the Hong Kong Productivity Council HKPC to strengthen its manpower so that HKPC can speed up the application process and move one step forward to reach out for and provide direct support to SMEs . For example instead of merely providing suggestions and guidelines HKPC can assist applicants in preparing their project proposals
主席，我對回收基金抱有很大期望，希望它能夠協助環保業界，但不少業界朋友卻告訴我，指回收基金未能提供協助。
President I have high expectations for the Fund hoping that it can provide support to the environmental industries . However many people from the industry have told me that the Fund cannot offer any help
主席，我手上有一份報章報道，內容是"回收基金口爽荷包緊，手續多多，難關重重，資助少少，申請寥寥"。
President I have a newspaper report here which says The Fund is generous in slogans but tight - fisted in approval marked by formalities hurdles meager grants and very few applications
政府指出，批出基金最多的一次是24宗，而批出最少的一次只有4宗，而有1宗撥款支持更只有4萬元，我不知道該4萬元可以給環保回收業界甚麼幫助。
According to the Government the largest batch of funding approval covers 24 applications and the smallest batch 4 applications only . The funding approved for one particular application is as little as 40,000 . I do not know how a funding of 40,000 can be of any help to the waste recycling industry
因此，我想問局長，他能否簡化現時的程序，擴闊資助範圍，讓業界真正受惠，不要讓回收基金變成"堅離地回收基金"？
Hence I would like to ask the Secretary if he can streamline the existing procedure and widen the scope of funding so that the Recycling Fund can truly benefit the industry and will not become detached from reality
此外，當局將來會推出一項都市固體廢物收費計劃，我想問有沒有一些辦法既可以鼓勵市民做好源頭分類，又可以減廢呢？
And since the authorities will introduce a municipal solid waste charging scheme in the future can I ask whether there are any ways that can both encourage waste separation at source and reduce waste?
主席，我留意到主體答覆有提及關於當局與公共屋邨，特別是房委會轄下屋邨的合作，以及一些鼓勵的建議或做法。
President I note from the main reply that the authorities will cooperate with public housing estates especially those under the Housing Authority HA and there will be some proposals and practice to provide incentives
但是，除了房委會之外，香港房屋協會是否沒有參與呢？
But HA aside can I ask why the Hong Kong Housing Society HS is not taking any part?
代理主席，我發言支持楊岳橋議員根據《議事規則》第401條動議的中止待續議案。
Deputy President I rise to speak in support of the adjournment motion moved by Mr Alvin YEUNG under Rule 401 of the Rules of Procedure RoP
代理主席，我們今次提出中止待續議案是因為建制派想修訂《議事規則》，而最重要的一項與本會舉行會議的法定人數有關。
Deputy President we must move an adjournment motion this time around because the pro - establishment camp wants to amend RoP and the most important amendment is related to the quorum for the meeting of the Legislative Council
這樣做豈不是輸打贏要？
Was he not playing bad loser?
這種做法會令人服氣嗎？
Is this approach convincing?
我奉勸梁君彥主席日後不要再提出要尋求法律意見，因為這樣做無疑浪費立法會的資源和金錢。
I advise the President to stop seeking legal advice in future as doing so will undoubtedly waste the resources and money of the Legislative Council
他倒不如說請建制派提供法律意見，然後根據這些法律意見或建制派多數人的意見作出裁決。
He might as well request the pro - establishment camp to provide legal advice and then make rulings having regard to the legal advice given or the opinion of the majority of the pro - establishment Members
代理主席，今次修改《議事規則》顯然會削弱立法會的制衡力量，尤其是我們民主派議員監察政府的制衡力量。
Deputy President the amendments to RoP this time around obviously will undermine the checking power of the Legislative Council particularly that of the pan - democratic Members like us in monitoring the Government
葉太在上次特首選舉中也身受其害，知道小圈子選舉的禍害。
Mrs IP who also suffered in the previous Chief Executive Election should be aware of the harms of coterie elections
雖然面對困難重重，但我們仍要追查到底，這是我們作為民意代表必須肩負的責任，縱使最終未必會成功，但我們也盡了力。
Despite the many difficulties we must continue to pursue until the end . As representatives of public opinion we must shoulder this responsibility . Even if we might not succeed in the end at least we have tried our very best
再者，我們沒料到若非召開專責委員會會議，也不會知道周浩鼎議員跟梁振英的友好關係，竟然串通干預專責委員會的工作。
Furthermore we did not expect to find out the friendly relationship between Mr Holden CHOW and LEUNG Chun - ying as well as their collusion to intervene in the work of the Select Committee had the Select Committee meeting not been convened
何俊賢議員其後借用民主派的口號並解釋說，今天改議事規則和明日23條立法，邏輯上其實沒有關係。
Mr Steven HO later borrowed the slogan used by the pro - democracy camp and explained that the amendments to RoP today are actually logically unrelated to the enactment of legislation on Article 23 tomorrow
代理主席，梁君彥主席告訴傳媒會不斷加開會議，使立法會議會重回正軌。
Deputy President President Andrew LEUNG has told the media that additional meetings will continue to be held to bring this Council back onto the right track
在議員發言時，請其他議員保持肅靜。
Will other Members please keep quiet while a Member is speaking
朱凱廸議員，你有甚麼規程問題？
Mr CHU Hoi - dick what is your point of order?
林卓廷議員，請繼續發言。
Mr LAM Cheuk - ting please continue
立法會以往即使在不正常的狀態下，仍然受到某程度的制衡，例如我剛才一再強調以呈請方式成立的專責委員會，或按照其他程序提出的議案，以阻截一些嚴重違背民意或侵害市民基本權利的議案。
In the past the Legislative Council was still subject to a certain degree of checks and balances even though it was not in a normal state . For instance select committees could be set up through petitions as I emphasized repeatedly earlier or motions be moved according to other procedures to block motions that were seriously against public opinion or infringed the basic rights of the people
不過，我認為今天議會內某位同事相當有趣。
Nevertheless I find one Honourable colleague has behaved in a very interesting manner in the Chamber today
他上星期"招呼"我，然後觸碰黃碧雲議員，到今天又罵譚文豪議員是"無耻的狗狼"。
Last week he touched Dr Helena WONG after giving me a treat . Today he scolded Mr Jeremy TAM describing him as a shameless dog wolf
這似乎是"西環"派給謝偉俊議員的"硬任務"，要他一而再、再而三地如此。
The Western District appears to have handed down a hard task to Mr Paul TSE requiring him to behave in this manner repeatedly
我已盡量寬鬆，讓議員表達意見。
I have striven to adopt a lax approach to allow Members to express their views
議員在辯論中難免會提出不同觀點，但不應使用冒犯性言詞。
Although the views presented will inevitably be different Members should not make offensive remarks
如果大家及時收回認為自己說錯的話，或撤回認為自己錯誤地提出的對《議事規則》的修訂，其實大家也可以令立法會回復正常的議會辯論。
If Members can retract remarks considered by themselves to be wrong or withdraw amendments mistakenly proposed by them to RoP they can actually bring the Legislative Council back to conducting normal parliamentary debates
還是經過一段漫長歲月，當我們在10多年後回首才發現原來這次提出的修訂是"潘朵拉的盒子"，一打開了便無法關上？
Or will we find that the amendments proposed this time around are tantamount to opening Pandoras box which cannot be closed once opened when we look back at this after more than a decade?
大家也知道《基本法》已有明確規定，而他們現在只是斷章取義，取巧地表示改變全體委員會的法定人數可能問題不大，繼而展開辯論。
As Members are aware the quorum is already stipulated clearly in the Basic Law . However they are now interpreting the quorum out of context in a slyly manner arguing that there is no big problem with changing the quorum of the committee of the whole Council
其實這確實是非常嚴肅的問題，日後一旦遇上司法覆核等挑戰時，應如何解釋呢？
Actually this is a very serious matter . How should the quorum be interpreted in the event of challenges such as judicial reviews in future?
是否真的有足夠人手和議員審議一些與民生和民主發展息息相關的重要議案呢？
Are there really adequate manpower and Members to scrutinize significant motions closely related to peoples livelihood and democratic development?
他們會發現經此一役，我們以往或許會不分黨派地把事情做好的氣氛將不復存在。
In the past Members from different political parties or groupings might strive to get the job done properly . Now after this battle they will find that such an atmosphere has disappeared
請議員留意，會議廳內手提電話不應調校至發聲模式。
Will Members please pay attention to this . Mobile phones should not be adjusted to the sound - emitting mode inside the Chamber
但一旦觸及最簡單和最基本關乎法定人數和呈請書的規定，又如何向市民解釋呢？
But how can they explain to the public should the simplest and most fundamental provisions on the quorum and petitions be involved?
在面對惡法時，我們別無他法，只能盡用我們所有的發言時間。
In the face of such laws we have no alternative but to use all of our speaking time
但其實說到底，回心一想，我們是否真的需要如此呢？
But after all do we really have to behave in this manner?
代理主席，其實這次要令市民明白立法會內正在發生甚麼事並不容易。
Why should they deprive themselves of the last remaining scope? . Deputy President it is actually not easy to make the public understand what is going on in the Legislative Council
我只知道如果我們在2017年年底的今天輕輕放過這件事，不作任何抵抗，任由他們修改《議事規則》，日後當惡法來臨香港時，我們便真的想抵擋也抵擋不了。
I only know that should this matter be taken lightly today at the end of 2017 without putting up any resistance and leaving RoP to their arbitrary amendment there is no way we can resist draconian laws should they be introduced into Hong Kong in future
說到底，其實前主席曾鈺成也曾作出批評，認為我們應謹慎行事。
Actually Jasper TSANG the former President of the Legislative Council once criticized Members saying they should act with prudence
過去，大家抱着不同的抱負進入立法會。
In the past we joined the Legislative Council with different aspirations
在立法會，大家除了政治鬥爭外，其實撫心自問，大家應該有真正想為社會做的事。
In this Council besides engaging in political struggles Members should do some soul - searching as they should really do something for society
大家最少能舉出一件希望為其業界和選民而做的事，而以往這裏是大家迫使政府做事的地方。
Members should be able to cite at least one thing they wish to do for their trade or sector as well as their electors . In the past the Legislative Council was a venue for Members to force the Government to do something but it is not the case now
《議事規則》修改後，如果有一天真的有些不好的法案提交予立法會而我們又未能阻擋時，民怨便無法紓解。
After RoP is amended should a bad bill be tabled before this Council one day and we are unable to block it there will be no way for public grievances to be eased
大部分同事也很尊重自己的發言，真的會做足準備與大家辯論，在過程中務求善用議會的時間，而不會輕視別人。
Most Honourable colleagues have great respect for their speeches . They will really make adequate preparations for the debates with a view to optimizing the utilization of time in this Council . Moreover they will not hold others in contempt
世事難料，未到最後一刻，也無人知道誰是誰非......
No one can tell who is right or wrong until the last minute Deputy President I so submit
主席，我剛才根據《議事規則》第162條動議休會待續的議案，主席表示我仍然可在此爭取說服建制派、保皇黨的同事認真思考，究竟對於廖長江議員就《議事規則》提出的修訂，現時採取只是投一票的做法是否合乎情理？
President earlier on when I moved the adjournment motion under Rule 162 of the Rules of Procedure RoP the President said that I could still seize this opportunity to persuade Honourable colleagues in the pro - establishment or pro - Government camp to seriously think about whether this arrangement for Members to cast only one vote on the amendments proposed by Mr Martin LIAO to RoP is reasonable