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如立法會通過決議案，經調整的財務資格限額將於刊憲後生效。
Subject to the Legislative Councils approval of the resolution the adjusted financial eligibility limits will come into effect upon gazettal
主席，基本上，我原則上支持需提升社會各方、各事及各物的透明度。
President basically I support in principle the need to enhance transparency of all parties all issues and all things in the society
首先，他的議案要求"傳召律政司司長於2018年3月21日到立法會席前，就會否為受《香港人權法案條例》保障的資訊自由盡快立法及何時立法"。
First of all his motion calls for summoning the Secretary for Justice to attend before the Council on 21 March 2018 in relation to whether a law will be enacted as soon as possible on freedom of information protected by the Hong Kong Bill of Rights Ordinance when such a law is to be enacted
因此，現時的問題在於應否就保障資訊自由盡快立法及何時立法，而這問題是無須傳召律政司司長來解答的，因為此事已交由法改會考慮。
Therefore the question now is whether a law should be enacted as soon as possible to protect the freedom of information and when such a law will be enacted . We need not summon the Secretary for Justice to answer this question because the matter is being deliberated by LRC
議案的第二部分指，"及目前各政府部門長期隱瞞公共資訊事宜，作證及提供證據，以及出示所有相關的文據、簿冊、紀錄或文件。
The second part of the motion reads to testify or give evidence and to produce all relevant papers books records or documents matters related to the persistent withholding of public information by government departments at present
就這兩個問題，梁繼昌議員提及部門與部門之間開會時沒有備存檔案的問題。
Regarding these two issues Mr Kenneth LEUNG has mentioned the problem of not keeping a file when meetings are held between departments
當局可能需在運作上作出改善。
The Administration may need to make improvements in their operations
讓我言歸議案的第二部分，即"各政府部門長期隱瞞公共資訊事宜"。
Let me come back to the second part of the motion that is persistent withholding of public information by government departments
這是完全不清晰的。
This is completely unclear
就政府自行保存的檔案，政府當然有責任將檔案保護保密，這是必須的。
For the archives kept by the Government itself of course the Administration has the responsibility to keep them safe and confidential
稅務局持有全港300多萬名納稅人的資料，亦有成千上萬間需納稅的機構的資料。
The Inland Revenue Department IRD holds information on more than 3 million taxpayers in Hong Kong and there are also information on tens of thousands of tax - paying agencies
他無需透過這項議案詢問政府："你們是否真的會落實此事呢？
It is unnecessary for him to ask the Government under this motion Will you really put this matter into implementation?
麻煩你們在3月21日前來立法會告知議員。
Please come to the Legislative Council to inform Members before 21 March
"我覺得這是大費周章，費時失事。
I think this is a waste of both time and energy much ado about nothing
這是關乎政府的問題。
This has something to do with individual government
"我們要公平、公正、公開及透明地向市民交代。
We should be accountable to the public in a fair just open and transparent manner
究竟他有何意識形態或目的何在呢？
What exactly was his mindset or purpose?
他們在議會內外的一舉一動皆要成為香港社會檔案的一部分，並受到有關法例約束。
Their every move inside and outside the Council must become part of the public files of Hong Kong and be bound by the relevant legislation
主席，我謹此陳辭，反對這項議案。
With these remarks President I oppose this motion
法律援助服務是香港法律制度重要的一環。
Legal aid services form an integral part of the legal system in Hong Kong
法援政策的目標，是確保所有符合《法律援助條例》規定，以及具備合理理據 在香港法院提出訴訟及抗辯的人，不會因缺乏經濟能力而無法尋求公義。
The policy objective of legal aid is to ensure that all those who comply with the regulations of the Legal Aid Ordinance and have reasonable grounds for pursuing or defending a legal action in the Courts of Hong Kong will not be denied access to justice due to a lack of means
任何人士如欲獲得法援，必須同時通過《條例》規定的經濟審查及案情審查。
To qualify for legal aid a person is required to satisfy both the means test and merits test as provided by the Ordinance
《條例》及附屬法例列明機制防止濫用法援。
The Ordinance and its subsidiary legislation expressly provide a mechanism to prevent the abuse of legal aid
當中包括根據《法律援助規例》第11條，凡有人重複申請法援被拒，而法律援助署署長覺得其行為構成濫用《條例》提供的協助，署長可命令對該人日後提出的任何申請，均不予考慮。
Among the provisions regulation 11 of the Legal Aid Regulations Cap . 91A prescribes that when a person has applied for and been refused legal aid services repeatedly and it appears to the Director of Legal Aid that hisher conduct has amounted to an abuse of the facilities provided by the Ordinance the Director may order that no consideration shall be given to any future application by that person
該項指示有效期不得超過3年。
No such direction however shall remain in force for a period longer than three years
正如我在首次發言中提到，這次我所提出的議案，目的是根據既定年度檢討機制，按丙類消費物價指數的變動，相應上調普通法援計劃及法援輔助計劃的財務資格限額4%。
As what I have said in my first speech I put forth the current motion to upwardly adjust the financial eligibility limits for the Ordinary Legal Aid Scheme and for the Supplementary Legal Aid Scheme by 4 % in accordance with the change of the Consumer Price Index C under the established annual review mechanism
感謝各位議員的支持，至於議員提出的其他意見，有不少超出了這議案的範圍，我們很樂意於事務委員會作出跟進。
I am grateful for Honourable Members support . As for the other comments put forth by Members many of them are outside the scope of this motion and we are willing to follow up on them in the panels concerned
謹此陳辭，多謝代理主席。
Thank you Deputy President . I so submit
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：民政事務局局長動議的議案，予以通過。
I now put the question to you and that is That the motion moved by the Secretary for Home Affairs be passed
根據《基本法》第七十三條第五項及第十項動議的議案。
Motions under Article 735 and 10 of the Basic Law
第一項議案：朱凱廸議員要求傳召律政司司長於2018年3月21日到立法會席前作證及出示文件而動議的議案。
First motion Motion to be moved by Mr CHU Hoi - dick to summon the Secretary for Justice to attend before the Council on 21 March 2018 to testify and produce documents
代理主席，我支持朱凱廸議員動議本會根據《基本法》第七十三條，傳召律政司司長到立法會席前，就會否為資訊自由盡快立法及何時立法，以及各政府部門長期隱瞞公共資訊事宜，作證作供，以及提供證據及文件。
Deputy President I support Mr CHU Hoi - dick in moving the motion pursuant to Article 73 of the Basic Law to summon the Secretary for Justice to testify or give evidence and provide proof and documents before the Legislative Council in respect of whether she will legislate expeditiously for freedom of information and when the legislation will be enacted and in respect of the long - term concealment of public information by various government departments
原因有二：第一，誠如剛才兩位議員所述，香港現時面對很多管治問題，市民有不滿意的地方，而議員亦做不到自己想做的事，因為政府拒絕把資料給予公眾，甚至拒絕給予議員。
The reasons are of twofold . Firstly just as the two Members said a moment ago Hong Kong is confronted with many governance problems . The public have dissatisfactions while Members fail to achieve what they want to do because the Government refuses to release the information to the public or even to Members
這是香港眾多管治問題的根源。
This is the root of the numerous governance problems in Hong Kong
第二個原因，是我們別無他法，只能眼睜睜看着政府在過去多年來一直拖延。
The second reason is that we have no other alternative but to watch the Government dragging on over the past for more than 10 years
剛才兩位議員皆提到需要盡快立法及何時立法的問題，他們主要提述了兩項法例，即檔案法和資訊自由法，而後者通常稱為公開資料法。
The two Members have mentioned the need to expedite law enactment and asked when the legislation would be enacted . They mainly refer to two piece of legislation the archives law and the legislation on freedom of information the latter is commonly known as the legislation on access to information
兩者的分別在於檔案法強制政府官員保存、管理及公開對社會政策及民生有影響力的公共檔案，而資訊自由法則保障市民獲取政府資訊的權利。
The differences between the two are that the archives law requires the government officials to keep manage and disclose public records which have an impact on social policies and peoples livelihood while the legislation on freedom of information safeguards the publics rights in obtaining government information
特首林鄭月娥在競選時簽署了香港記者協會的新聞自由約章，包括承諾在任內落實資訊自由法，而梁振英亦曾簽署該約章。
Chief Executive Mrs Carrie LAM signed the press freedom charter with the Hong Kong Journalists Association during her candidature which included her pledge to implement the legislation on freedom of information during her tenure while LEUNG Chun - ying had also signed that charter
我們希望林鄭月娥不會一如梁振英當"食生菜"般。
We hope that Mrs Carrie LAM would not act like LEUNG Chun - ying and make empty pledge
獲取資訊的權利受聯合國《公民權利和政治權利國際公約》第十九條及眾多有關資訊及言論自由的國際原則所確認。
The right to information is endorsed by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights of the United Nations and numerous international doctrines on freedom of information and freedom of speech
聯合國教育、科學與文化組織更在2016年把每年9月28日訂為"國際資訊自由日"，希望培養全球公民的知情權，以及向政府問責的認知。
The United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization even marked 28 September of each year as the International Day for the Universal Access to Information in 2016 in the hope of cultivating in the global citizens the right to information and awareness of government accountability
獲取資訊的權利在全球超過90個國家及地區已成為當地憲法保障的基本權利及人權。
The right to information has become the basic right and human right safeguarded by the local constitution of over 90 nations and regions worldwide
全球現時已有超過100個國家和地區制定了資訊自由法，規範政府如何處理公眾索取政府資料的要求。
There are over 100 countries and regions worldwide in which the legislation on freedom of information is in place to regulate how the government should handle the publics requests for government information
政府一直以來只依據1995年頒布、既不曾更新亦不具法律效力的《公開資料守則》，處理市民索取政府資料的要求。
The Government has all along been relying on the Code on Access to Information the Code promulgated in 1995 which has not been updated or has any legal binding effect to handle public requests for government information
我們認為，政府必須公開資料，市民才可以有效監察政府，甚至了解政府在某些問題上有否違法。
We think that the Government should disclose information so that the public can monitor the Government effectively or even understand whether the Government has contravened the law in certain issues
主席，這是我們認為必須根據《基本法》第七十三條傳召政府提供資料的原因。
President this is the reason why I think it is necessary to summon the Government to provide information in pursuant of Article 73 of the Basic Law
政府經常表示已妥善保存檔案。
The Government always indicates that the records have been properly kept
去年11月，我提出口頭質詢，政府才首次交代法改會將於2018年完成報告，然後進行諮詢。
It was not until I raised verbal enquiry in November last year that the Government made it clear that LRC would complete the report by 2018 and carry out consultation afterwards
主席，我認為日後的諮詢必須集中在如何立法，而不應再討論應否立法，我不想在立法問題上看到政府"拉布"。
President I think our consultation in the future should focus on how to enact the legislation rather than on discussing whether legislation should be enacted . I do not want to see the Government filibuster on the issue of enacting the legislation
自1995年起，政府對於制定資訊自由法已拖延超過20年，及至2013年5月，法改會正式成立公開資料小組委員會及檔案法小組委員會。
Since 1995 the Government has been delaying the enactment of legislation on freedom of information for over 20 years . It was not until May 2013 that LRC formally established the Sub - Committee on Access to information and Sub - Committee on Archives Law
我不想批評法改會進度緩慢，但政府沒有理 由不同時進行準備工夫，因為立法是沒有爭議的。
I do not want to criticize LRC for the slow progress but there is no reason why the Government does not proceed with preparation work concurrently since there is no dispute over the enactment of the legislation
為推動制定有關法例，以及了解政府內部的考慮過程，我們今天才建議引用《基本法》第七十三條的權力。
To accelerate enactment of the legislation and to know the internal consideration processes of the Government we therefore propose to invoke the power vested by Article 73 of the Basic Law
過去有很多市民投訴，指政府對於他們索取資料的要求的審批準則含糊不清，在予以拒絕時又沒有給予合理理由。
Many citizens complained in the past that the Governments criteria in approving their requests for information were ambiguous and no justifiable reasons for refusal would be given
其實很多議員沒有直接回答這個問題，除了蔣麗芸議員。
Actually many Members have not given a straightforward answer to this question except Dr CHIANG Lai - wan
她直接說明為何兩年較1年差。
She directly explained why one year is worse than two years
代理主席，我不像梁繼昌議員般，做了一些關於普通法和檢控時限的研究。
Deputy Chairman unlike Mr Kenneth LEUNG I have not done any research on common law and time limit for prosecution
我覺得背後的原因可能與剛才建制派或工會的同事所說的政治現實有關。
I believe the reason behind it may be related to the political reality referred to by Honourable colleagues from the pro - establishment camp or trade unions
其實哪些人會反對將檢控的法定時效限制延長至24個月呢？
Actually who would oppose extending the statutory time limit for prosecution to 24 months?
可以想象，只是那些職業介紹所。
We can surmise only employment agencies would do so
當有足夠勢力說12個月已足夠，不可24個月，一些人便會基於政治現實而作出判斷。
When a sufficiently strong force deems 12 months enough and 24 months not okay some people would then make a judgment based on such a political reality
即使文書保存期限不變，維持在1年，檢控的法定時效限制也可延長至兩年，以配合外傭的合約和簽證情況。
Even if the retention period for documents remains the same and is fixed at one year the statutory time limit for prosecution can be extended to two years to accommodate the contract and visa conditions of foreign domestic helpers
此外，我其實很想問一個問題。
Moreover I actually wish to ask a question
我認為在兩個選擇中，即在1年與兩年之間，後者即張超雄議員的修正案較為合理。
Between the two options ie . one year versus two years I find the latter―that is Dr Fernando CHEUNGs amendment―more reasonable
因此，我謹此發言，支持張超雄議員的修正案。
For this reason I so submit and support Dr Fernando CHEUNGs amendment
但是，今天討論法援上限上調的建議，我們不能霎時間問街上的市民，我們應該投反對票，藉以向政府施壓，希望法援制度有根本的改變，抑或應該"袋住先"，先接納有關建議。
However we are now discussing the proposal of raising FELs . We cannot ask people in the street suddenly whether we should oppose this as to force the Government to revamp the legal aid system fundamentally or pocket the proposal first and accept it
主席，我覺得各位同事說出了一個重點，就是現時法援資產上限的門檻過低，制度過於僵化，導致出現一種很奇怪的現象。
President I think the colleagues have all pointed out a very crucial point that the current thresholds of FELs are far too low and the system is too rigid . This results in a very strange phenomenon
我發現隨着我年齡增加，以及我結婚後，我開始成為剛才張國鈞議員口中所說的，沒有辦法再得到法援保護的中產人士。
I discover that as I grow older and after I have got married I am now considered a member of the middle class who cannot enjoy the protection of legal aid as said by Mr CHEUNG Kwok - kwan just now
就是當我七老八十的時候，不幸地子女不供養我，而我和太太都花盡所有積蓄，這個時候我便可以申請法援。
I have to wait until I become an elderly person at the age of 70 or 80 and at that time unfortunately my children are not going to support me and my wife and I have exhausted our savings then I will become eligible for legal aid again
在我們人生中，由30多歲至五六十歲的時間，可能是很需要得到法律保障的，但現在的制度卻偏偏不理我們死活。
However during the course of our life from the thirties to fifties or sixties there may be times when we really need legal aid protection and yet under the current system we will just be ignored and will not be given any protection
由20多歲至80歲，大家都要爭取司法公義。
From our twenties to our eighties everyone of us should strive for judicial justice
但是，他們現在面對法律上的爭拗，要打官司，當他們不能申請法援的時候，便要面對傾家蕩產的結果，這是一個例子，一個很清楚的例子。
Now they face a legal dispute and they have to go to court . If they cannot apply for legal aid they may have to face the outcome of bankruptcy . This is an example a very vivid example to illustrate his point
我特別想對比張國鈞議員和蔣麗芸議員不同的說法。
I would like to compare in particular what Dr CHIANG Lai - Wan and Mr CHEUNG Kwok - kwan have said
我覺得這次我們辯論，各位同事不要只集中討論我們的司法覆核制度如何被使用，這不是重點。
In this debate I think that the colleagues should not focus only on how our judicial review system is being used
重點是，現在的法援制度導致一種很奇怪的歧視，這是對於有少許積蓄的人的歧視，這才是討論的焦點。
This is not the point; rather we should consider the very strange scenario created by the legal aid system and that is discrimination against people who have some savings
而我們希望法援制度得到更根本的改革，能夠覆蓋不單司法覆核個案，還有各類型的民事和刑事訴訟。
This should be the focus of our debate . We want a fundamental revamp of the legal aid system to extend its coverage to not only judicial review cases but also civil and criminal proceedings
主席，我今天會對這項決議案投贊成票，希望這次是我們最後一次跟隨我認為很可悲的丙類消費物價指數，作一種蝸牛式的調升。
President I will vote in favor of this resolution today and hope that this will be the last time we have to follow this deplorable CPIC changes in making a snail - like upward adjustment to FELs
主席，各位同事，其實這項根據《基本法》第七十三條提出的傳召議案，可以充分總括上兩個星期開始辯論的數項傳召議案，因為每項傳召議案都代表一個懸而未決的問題。
President fellow Members this summons motion moved under Article 73 of the Basic Law will conclude the few summons motions which were debated in the past two weeks because each summons motion represents a problem pending a solution
這些懸而未決的問題，是因為政府不願意提供必要的資料，以致問題無法解決，甚至更加惡化。
These problems remain unresolved or even escalate because the Government is unwilling to provide the necessary information
兩個重大例子是，第一，迪士尼樂園與政府簽署的發展及營運協議，它永遠緊箍着政府對迪士尼樂園未來的發展，但我們永遠看不到它，好像一個透明的、隱形的"緊箍咒"，令我們感到很氣憤。
One is about the agreement between Hong Kong Disneyland and the Government on the development and operation of the theme park . The agreement has been like a spell cast on the Government controlling its decision on the future development of Disneyland . We are indignant because we can never see this agreement
我們每次開會都很動氣，每次開會對着商務及經濟發展局局長，他每次都說不好意思，他們簽了協議，所以很多事情不能夠做。
It is like an invisible spell . We were angry every time at the meeting . The Secretary for Commerce and Economic Development apologized at every meeting saying that the Government had been bound by the agreement not to do many things
其實，局長，在我發言前，我特地翻閱了《公開資料守則》，當中第2.9a段指出：資料如果披露會令部門的談判、商業或合約活動受到傷害或損害，可以是一個不披露的理由；第2.14a段則指出：披露資料的公眾利益超過可能造成的傷害或損害，便可予以披露。
Secretary before I speak I especially refer to the Code on Access to Information . Paragraph 2.9a states that if the disclosure of information by a department would harm or prejudice negotiations commercial or contractual activities the department may refuse to disclose information; and paragraph 2.14a states that information may be disclosed if the public interest in disclosure outweighs any harm or prejudice that would result
代理主席，我這項議案其實有兩個部分，第一個部分要求律政司司長向我們解釋，為甚麼政府部門可以長期隱瞞公共資訊。
Deputy President my motion is made up of two parts . First I request the Secretary for Justice to explain to us the reason why government departments can persistently withhold public information
即是說，現在放在眼前的香港人權法案第十六條，如根據聯合國人權委員會的解釋和理解，這條文已賦予香港市民權力可得到政府提供的資訊，而我認為這權力其實是有迫切性，應以法例的形式清楚訂明。
Such information includes records held by a public body regardless of the form in which the information is stored its source and the date of production . In other words according to the explanation and understanding of United Nations Human Rights Committee Article 16 of the Hong Kong Bill of Rights that lays before us already empowers members of the public to access government information . In my opinion there is an urgent need to provide in clear terms this power in the form of an ordinance
代理主席，我記得之前曾在司法及法律事務委員會，與行政署署長對話，當時我們在討論檔案法。
Deputy President I remember I had an opportunity to speak with the Director of Administration at the meeting of the Panel on Administration of Justice and Legal Services . We were discussing archives law at that time
所以，我其實不能接受政府自2013年一直將這個問題推予香港法律改革委員會，推至今年才重提這個問題。
Hence I find it unacceptable that the Government has shirked this responsibility to the Law Reform Commission of Hong Kong since 2013 and did not bring up this topic again until this year
我們希望律政司司長可以到立法會，在我們面前，清楚解釋過去沒有做的事，說清楚為甚麼不立法和何時會立法。
We hope that the Secretary for Justice can come to the Legislative Council and clearly explain before us what has not been done in the past and why a law is not enacted and when the law will be enacted
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：朱凱廸議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr CHU Hoi - dick be passed
主席，我感謝多位同事和局長的回應。
President I am grateful to various Members and the Secretary for their responses
唯有如此，我們的民主才能落地生根，否則我們只會一直被蒙在鼓裏，無從談論民主了。
Only when this happens can democracy take root here in Hong Kong . If not we will continue to be kept in the dark and find no way to strive for democracy
在這個嚴峻時刻，香港正遭北京全面打壓，而我們竟在這個時候討論資訊自由法，很多市民便勸我現實一點：他們已打到你口腫面腫，還會跟你說這些嗎？
On seeing us bring forth for discussion the issue of enacting a law on freedom of information at such a critical moment where Hong Kong is being subject to the full suppression by Beijing many members of the public advised me to be more realistic . They say Do you think they will ever talk about this issue with you after punching you in the face?
我只望各位市民明白到，我們民主派聲稱要和香港市民一起，在香港建立一個民主制度，所說的不單是雙普選，我們更要在不同環節和香港市民一起爭取最強的民主政治基礎，包括我們不應忘記的檔案法、資訊自由法和共享資訊等。
Well I only wish that every single citizen understood that when we the pro - democratic Members declare that we must stay together with the Hong Kong people to help build a democratic system in Hong Kong we meant not only to fight for dual universal suffrage but also to strive for the strongest political foundation for democracy which includes such crucial elements as the archives law the law on freedom of information and the sharing of information . These are things that we must not forget
主席，我們才是那些資訊的主人。
President we are in fact the owners of the information
政府的檔案和資訊不是他們的私人財產，而是屬於市民大眾的，因此我們要求政府立法，正式在法例條文中訂明這項權利，這是天經地義的事。
The Government should not have treated its archives and information as its own private property since they belong to no one but the general public . It is for this reason that we demand legislation by the Government in this connection so that the right is stipulated clearly in the legal provisions
主席，我作為法案委員會主席，比較了解整個審議過程，所以我想就這項修正案發言。
Chairman as Chairman of the Bills Committee I have a better understanding of the scrutiny process . Hence I would like to speak on this amendment
首先，黃定光議員剛才說張超雄議員提出的修正案是"斬多幾兩"，政治上大家可以提出這種想法或猜測別人的動機，不過，在議會內議員不應猜測其他議員的動機，所以不能印證。
First of all Mr WONG Ting - kwong described Dr Fernando CHEUNGs amendment as making excessive demands . Politically everyone can make such an assumption but we should not impute motives to other Members in the Council so such an assumption cannot be proved
當然，"象哥"有其根據，因為會議議程先處理局長的修正案，若局長的修正案獲得通過，張超雄議員的修正案便沒有機會表決。
But certainly Mr Elephant had his justifications because the amendment proposed by the Secretary will be processed first according to the Agenda . If the Secretarys amendment is passed Dr Fernando CHEUNGs amendment will not be put to the vote
第一，張超雄議員與工聯會一樣，也在反映普遍"打工仔"的心聲，就是為了"保飯碗"，希望在工作期間賺取更多金錢，所以通常會在約滿後才追究，他說的是實際情況，而工聯會亦感同身受。
Firstly same as the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU Dr Fernando CHEUNG is speaking up for the general wage earners who would usually pursue the matter upon expiry of their contracts as they want to keep their job and earn more money from work . What he said is true and FTU shares the same view
不過，在香港強資本弱勞工的環境，事實上勞工沒有甚麼保障。
In an environment where capitalists are strong and workers disadvantaged there is no protection whatsoever for labour
因此，我們傾向支持政府提出的12個月的方案，就是不想把事情拖延太久，以求達至我們想得到的實際效果。
In order to achieve the anticipated result we tend to support the 12 - month proposal put forth by the Government as we do not want cases to be dragged on for too long
黃定光議員剛才提到復職令的問題，其實與這項修訂條例有點不同。
Mr WONG Ting - kwong mentioned the reinstatement Bill just now which is actually a bit different from this Bill
不過，勞顧會不如立法會般有效率，既不是經常開會，也不是經常有新議程，所以又拖延了1年。
Hence the Labour Department and the Labour and Welfare Bureau could only reintroduce it to LAB for discussion which was not as efficient as the Legislative Council as it did not hold meetings to discuss new agenda items frequently resulting in a delay of another year
大家應該理解，大部分勞工議題的真正主戰場其實在勞顧會。
Members should understand that the main battlefield of most labour issues is actually LAB
因此，就復職令而言我要先強調，我知道復職令不是現在審議的法案，但我要花少許時間說說政府提出由5萬元改為72,500元，但有修正案建議改為無上限，當中牽涉的問題很複雜，勞顧會也不能置身事外......
Hence insofar as the order for reinstatement is concerned―I must stress that I understand that it is not the subject under scrutiny now but I must say a few words about it―while the Government proposed to increase the payment from 50,000 to 72,500 an amendment proposed that there should be no ceiling at all which involved complicated issues and LAB could not stand aloof
我只想說，如果復職令提交立法會審議而有修正案獲得通過，便要由勞顧會重新討論，不知討論至何時，所以我們的態度是要盡快通過復職令，以保障受無理解僱的僱員能夠有機會復職，如僱主不願意重新聘請僱員，便要多繳罰款。
What I wish to say is that if the reinstatement Bill was tabled to the Council for scrutiny and if an amendment was passed the issue would have to be discussed by LAB afresh until who knows when . Therefore our position is that the reinstatement Bill must be passed as early as possible so that employees unreasonably dismissed can be reinstated . Employers who refuse to re - engage the employees are subject to a heavier fine
我曾翻看當天的錄影紀錄，確定張議員沒有出席，所以他不了解政府最新的回應是甚麼。
I did check the video recording of that day the day the last meeting was held and confirmed that Mr CHEUNG did not attend the meeting on that day . That is why he does not understand the latest response of the Government
儘管如此，大家都希望《條例草案》完成審議能盡快提交立法會。
Nonetheless we all hope that the scrutiny of the Bill would be completed as soon as possible and be submitted to the Legislative Council