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根據《條例》第101條，審裁處在評定物品是否淫褻或不雅時，須考慮的因素包括一般合理的社會人士所普遍接受的道德禮教標準；物品或事物整體上產生的顯著效果；發布物品或展示事物的地點和對象；以及物品或事物是否具有真正目的。
Pursuant to section 101 of COIAO when classifying whether an article is obscene or indecent OAT shall have regard to standards of morality decency and propriety that are generally accepted by reasonable members of the community; the dominant effect of an article or of matter as a whole; the location where and the persons to whom the article is published or the matter is displayed; and whether the article or matter has an honest purpose
《條例》第141條訂明審裁處在考慮被呈交的物品作暫定類別時，須以非公開形式及在申請人或其他人不在場的情況底下進行。
Section 141 of COIAO stipulates that when OAT is considering an article for the purpose of making an interim classification it shall do so in private and without the attendance of the applicant or any other person
根據《條例》第143a條，審裁處無須為所作的任何暫定類別提出理由。
According to section 143a of COIAO OAT shall not be required to give any reasons for any interim classification
三 自2015年政府提出《條例》規管制度的建議法例修訂後的過去3年，我們一直有就《條例》的修訂建議與相關政府 部門和司法機構溝通，處理相關法律課題。
3 Since the Government proposed legislative amendments concerning the regulatory framework under COIAO in 2015 we have been liaising with the relevant government departments and the Judiciary on the proposed legislative amendments to COIAO over the past three years with a view to resolving the relevant legal issues
關於把審裁處委員總人數由500人增至1,500人的建議，司法機構原計劃在修例工作完成後一併推行。
Regarding the proposal to increase the total number of adjudicators from 500 to 1 500 the Judiciary originally planned to implement it upon enactment of the legislative amendments
因應最新情況，司法機構正考慮一些關於提高審裁處代表性的建議。
In view of the latest developments the Judiciary is now considering various suggestions to enhance the representativeness of OAT
此外，電影、報刊及物品管理辦事處過去幾年也有積極進行與《條例》有關的宣傳及公眾教育工作。
Besides the Office for Film Newspaper and Article Administration has also been actively organizing publicity and public education programmes relating to COIAO over the past several years
關於檢討《條例》的未來方向，正如商務及經濟發展局局長於上星期在資訊科技及廣播事務委員會會議上回應議員的提問時表示，政府正審視究竟2015年的修例建議能否充分回應公眾近期對《條例》規管及評審制度的關注。
As for the way forward of the review of COIAO in line with the Secretary for Commerce and Economic Developments response to a Members enquiry at last weeks meeting of the Panel on Information Technology and Broadcasting ITB Panel the Government is currently reviewing whether the legislative amendments proposed in 2015 could fully address recent concerns raised by members of the public over the regulatory framework and the adjudicatory system under COIAO
我們計劃在資訊科技及廣播事務委員會上詳細討論有關課題。
We plan to discuss the relevant issues in detail with the Panel
《條例》現時被質疑保守、落後、有缺失及缺乏透明度。
People now query if COIAO is too conservative backward deficient and non - transparent
主席，多謝馬議員的補充質詢。
President I thank Mr MA for his supplementary question
我們先看看2015年檢討得出甚麼共識。
Let us look at the consensus reached during the 2015 consultation
該等共識包括：第一，廢除審裁處的行政職能；第二，將有關罰則倍增；第三，將每次聆訊的審裁委員由兩名增至4名；第四，將審裁委員總人數由500增至1,500。
They include first abolish the administrative function of OAT; second increase the maximum penalty by 100 % ; third increase the minimum number of adjudicators at each OAT hearing from two to four; and fourth increase the total number of adjudicators from 500 to 1 500
在現階段，我們樂意聽取大家的意見。
At the present stage we are happy to listen to public views
主席，今次村上春樹《刺殺騎士團長》一書被評為第II類物品，最荒謬的是，沒有人知道書中哪一章、哪一段屬不雅。所以馬逢國議員在主體質詢問及可否公開審裁處評定這本書為第II類物品的理由。
President concerning the classification of Haruki MURAKAMIs novel Killing Commendatore as a Class II
其實陳議員剛才已解答了該項補充質詢。
As a matter of fact Mr CHAN has already answered this supplementary question
如果經覆核後當事人仍不服，亦可提出上訴，而上訴聆訊亦完全公開。
If the person concerned is still not convinced after the review he may apply for a review again and the hearing will also be open to the public
所以，就陳議員所言處方不提出理由一事，事實上是有法律機制以供查詢。
Hence regarding Mr CHANs remark that OAT does not give the reason for its classification a legal mechanism has in fact been established for enquiries
多謝議員。
Thank you Mr CHAN
主席，這真是國際笑話。
President this is indeed an international laughing stock
如果如局長所說，那麼小龍女被強姦的描述也可屬不雅，而最可笑的是，政府在整個主體答覆中連書名也不敢提。
According to the Secretary the description of Xiaolongnü being sexually assaulted may also cause indecency . More ridiculous still the Government dares not mention the name of the book throughout the main reply
我想問局長的個人意見，他認為審裁處的評級是否合理；如果不合理，他會否向村上春樹道歉？
May I ask the Secretary if he personally finds OATs classification reasonable; if so will he apologize to Haruki MURAKAMI?
首先，我的個人意見並不重要，這是司法機構的決定。
First my personal opinion is not important . That is the decision of the Judiciary
多年來，電影、報刊及物品管理辦事處和審裁處均按照《條例》的規定和條文處理評級工作。
For years the Office for Film Newspaper and Article Administration and OAT have handled the classification work in accordance with the provisions of COIAO
在整個抽選過程中，會盡量將人為因素減至最低。
Throughout the selection process it will try to minimize any human factor as far as possible
的確，在金庸《神鵰俠侶》一書中，小龍女練玉女心經時要全身赤裸，以及認錯楊過而被尹志平玷污一幕，均令我們有很多聯想。
Indeed in the novel The Legend of the Condor Hero scenes of Xiaolongnü being naked when practising a special type of martial arts and being sexually assaulted by YIN Zhiping whom she mistaken as YANG Guo give us plenty of room for association
就村上春樹《刺殺騎士團長》的內容而言，我估計不是因為書中有這些情節而被評為不雅。
As regards the contents of Haruki MURAKAMIs Killing Commendatore I guess it is not the plots that are considered indecent
有些人推測是否因為這本新書中可能牽涉反政府或暴力意識，甚至有人推斷是否基於政治考量。
Some speculate that the classification might be attributed to the anti - government or violent nature of the book or some even speculate that political considerations are involved
我想問局長，審裁處不公開其評級屬第II類或第III類，是否在政治考慮下甚至是政治審查下而有此決定？
May I ask the Secretary whether OATs decision not to disclose the reasons for classifying the novel as Class II or Class III is based on political considerations or even political censorship?
正如我剛才所說，根據《條例》第143c條，如果當事人想知悉究竟書中哪部分屬淫褻或不雅，可以向審裁處申請以取得有關資訊。
In accordance with section 143c of COIAO if the person concerned wishes to find out which part of the book causes the obscenity or indecency he may apply to OAT to get the relevant information
以我所知，審裁處現時有505名審裁委員，由終審法院首席法官任命，亦容許市民自薦加入，每次評審由主審裁判官領導數名審裁委員進行。
As far as I know there are at present 505 adjudicators who are appointed by the Chief Justice of the Court of Final Appeal and members of the public may also volunteer to become an adjudicator . Each classification is made by a panel consisting of the presiding magistrate and several adjudicators
明顯地，審裁委員的背景，包括學歷、經驗和資歷均足以影響他如何評定一件作品是否不雅。
Obviously the background of an adjudicator including his education level experience and qualification may affect how he considers whether an article is indecent
我想請問局長，雖然市民可以自薦加入成為審裁委員，但審裁處的挑選準則為何？
May I ask the Secretary the criteria of OAT for selecting adjudicators even though members of the public may volunteer to become an adjudicator?
每名審裁委員每次有多少時間閱讀作品以作出審裁？
How much time an adjudicator is allowed to examine an article before making a classification?
就李議員的質詢，我現答覆如下： 一 政府現時並沒有在內地居住或工作港人的全面統計資料。
My reply to Ms LEEs question is as follows 1 Currently the Government does not have comprehensive statistical information on Hong Kong people residing or working in the Mainland
然而，政府統計處自2016年起透過香港永久性居民的出入境紀錄資料，編製及發布"通常逗留在廣東省的香港居民"的估算。
Notwithstanding the Census and Statistics Department CSD has been making use of the movement records of Hong Kong permanent residents to compile and release the estimation of Hong Kong residents usually staying in the Guangdong Province since 2016
"通常逗留在廣東省的香港居民"是指在統計時點前的6個月至統計時點後的6個月內，累計在廣東省逗留6個月及以上的香港永久性居民。
These residents refer to Hong Kong permanent residents who have stayed in the Guangdong Province for six months and above cumulatively during the six months before and after the reference time - point
在2017年年底，估算人數約53萬人，當中約四成介乎25歲至64歲。
As at end - 2017 the estimated number of such persons was around 530 000 among which about 40 % were aged between 25 and 64
此外，有關統計亦未能確定有關人士在廣東省逗留的目的。
Besides their purposes of stay in the Guangdong Province could not be ascertained in the estimation
與此同時，我們了解香港的商界和部分團體均十分關 注修訂後的《中華人民共和國個人所得稅法》會否增加在內地工作或生活的港人的稅務負擔，以及影響港人前往大灣區發展的意欲，因此在過去數月，我們一直就有關事宜與內地相關機構溝通，並反映港人的關注。
At the same time we know that the business sector and some groups are very concerned whether the amended Individual Income Tax Law of the Peoples Republic of China will increase the tax burden on Hong Kong people who work or live in the Mainland and affect Hong Kong peoples desire to develop in the Guangdong - Hong Kong - Macao Greater Bay Area . Therefore we have been communicating with the relevant Mainland authorities on this matter over the past few months to relay the concerns of Hong Kong people
此安排大致維持了現行《中華人民共和國個人所得稅法實施條例》中，有關在內地境內居住不滿5年而無住所個人的稅務優惠政策，我們相信這將可以照顧大部分在內地工作的港人的關注。
This arrangement has largely retained the tax concession for individuals who have no domicile and have resided in the Mainland for less than five years under the existing Regulations for the Implementation of the Individual Income Tax Law of the Peoples Republic of China . We believe that the proposal has addressed the concerns of the majority of Hong Kong people working in the Mainland
而公開徵求意見將於11月4日結束。
The public consultation will close on 4 November 2018
至於對內地定居的退休港人的關注和新稅法實施條例的詳細詮釋，特區政府現時會繼續與內地相關機構跟進，希望澄清後可以有更能幫助港人的措施。
As regards the concern of Hong Kong retirees residing in the Mainland and the detailed interpretation of the Regulations for the Implementation of the Individual Income Tax Law the SAR Government will continue to follow up with the relevant Mainland authorities . We hope measures to be implemented will be more beneficial to Hong Kong people after clarification is made
主席，局長的主體答覆第一部分提到沒有具體清楚的統計資料，但隨着大灣區發展，我認為這並不足夠，希望局長可以更具前瞻性地研究現行制度，並掌握香港人在內地，特別是在大灣區工作和退休的數據。
President it is mentioned in part 1 of Secretarys main reply that the Government does not have comprehensive statistical information . However with the development of the Greater Bay Area I think this is not enough . I hope that the Secretary can study the existing system more proactively and get hold of the statistics on Hong Kong people working and retiring in the Mainland especially in the Greater Bay Area
我們擔心，很多市民有買賣股票，而每天或在某段時間內進行交易時可能引致的收益或損失，是否需要備案呢？
Many people buy and sell stocks and trading on a daily basis or at certain periods may incur gains or losses; do they have to file records on such transactions?
主席，新稅法容許港澳台人士享有5年豁免期，但這安排只針對個人。
President the new tax law allows people from Hong Kong Macao and Taiwan to enjoy a five - year exemption but this arrangement is only for individuals
本港企業派駐內地的附屬公司，特別是金融機構，有不少非港澳台人士的外籍員工，而現時並有明確表示，這些員工也可享有同樣的豁免期。
The subsidiaries of Hong Kong enterprises in the Mainland especially the financial institutions have employed many foreign employees who are not from Hong Kong Macao and Taiwan and presently it is not explicitly stated whether these employees can enjoy the same period of exemption
如果港企的外籍員工不屬於受惠群眾，日後企業選派外籍員工駐守內地時，可能要審視這些員工所屬的國家，是否曾與中國簽署避免雙重徵稅協定，因而可避免困擾。
If the foreign employees of Hong Kong enterprises will not be benefited when enterprises deploy foreign employees to the Mainland in the future they may have to examine whether the countries of these employees have signed an agreement on avoidance of double taxation with China so as to avoid perplexity
請問政府會否向中央爭取，以香港企業為主體，讓一定比例的非港澳台員工同樣享有5年豁免期？
Will the Government ask the Central Authorities to take Hong Kong enterprises as the mainstay and allow a certain proportion of employees who are not from Hong Kong Macao and Taiwan to enjoy the same five - year exemptions?
粵港澳大灣區如要真正開拓香港人的發展空間，新稅法影響甚大，因為內地徵收的 稅款差不多是香港的3倍，對很多希望北上發展的香港人，特別是"打工仔"造成很大的窒礙。
If the Greater Bay Area genuinely wants to attract Hong Kong people to go there for development the new tax law has great implication . The reason is that the tax collected by the Mainland is nearly three times the tax collected in Hong Kong which is a major obstacle to many Hong Kong people especially wage earners who wish to go northward for development
我想問，不少在內地工作的香港人擁有物業，這些人是否屬於在內地境內無住所，他們是否獲得豁免？
As many Hong Kong people working in the Mainland own properties are they regarded as having no domicile in the Mainland and hence can enjoy the exemption?
局長，深圳是全國創新科技龍頭城市，現在橫琴也朝這方向發展。
Secretary Shenzhen is a leading city in China in respect of innovation and technology and Hengqin is now developing in this direction
我們總共花費2,000億元興建兩條跨境大動脈，即高鐵和港珠澳大橋。
We have spent a total of 200 billion on the construction of two cross - border arteries namely the Express Rail Link and the Hong Kong - Zhuhai - Macao Bridge
我知道當局正在爭取，我也會在人大層面多做工夫。
I know that the authorities are making efforts and I will also try to do more as a member of National Peoples Congress
此外，根據現行安排，在內地境內享受的公休假日或個人休假日，不計算在實際停留天數內。
In addition under the current arrangement public holidays or personal leave days in the Mainland will not be counted in the actual number of days he has stayed
我們現在不能說可能性有多大，但我們會盡力爭取，希望取得對港人更有利的安排。
We cannot say how big the chance is right now but we will try our best to secure more favourable arrangements for Hong Kong people
香港和內地加強經濟融合和增加交流，更突顯兩地稅制的差異，甚至可能窒礙粵港澳大灣區的發展。
Strengthened economic integration and increased exchanges between Hong Kong and the Mainland will highlight the differences in the tax system of the two places and will even hinder the development of the Greater Bay Area
我想問局長，特區政府目前有否恆常人員編制和溝通機制，以便與內地部委討論各種個人和企業所得稅事宜？
I would like to ask the Secretary whether the SAR Government currently has a permanent establishment and communication mechanism to facilitate discussion of matters relating to individual income tax and enterprise income tax with ministerial departments in the Mainland
如果沒有，會否加強有關資源和機制？
If not will the relevant resources and mechanisms be strengthened?
如陳志全議員的議案獲得通過，即不得就譴責議案再採取任何行動。
If Mr CHAN Chi - chuens motion is agreed by the Council no future action shall be taken on the censure motion
由於陳志全議員提出了不得就譴責議案再採取任何行動的議案，我必須先處理這項議案。
As Mr CHAN Chi - chuen has moved the motion that no further action shall be taken on the censure motion I must deal with this motion first
在我請陳志全議員發言之前，我想指出，譴責議案是根據《基本法》第七十九條第七項動議；若獲得通過，有關議員便會喪失議員資格。
Before I invite Mr CHAN Chi - chuen to speak I must point out that the censure motion was moved in accordance with Article 797 of the Basic Law and if the motion is passed the Member concerned will no longer be qualified for his office
《議事規則》規定譴責議案動議後，辯論即告中止待續，目的是要確保本會就譴責議案進行實質辯論之前，必須先就有關指控進行調查。
It is stipulated in the Rules of Procedure that debate on the motion should be adjourned once the motion is moved in order to ensure that an investigation will be conducted into respective allegations before a specific debate on the censure motion is conducted
《議事規則》在程序上容許議員動議一項無經預告的議案，不就譴責議案再採取任何行動，目的是讓本會可慎重考慮是否有必要對有關指控進行調查。
According to the procedure in the Rules of Procedure a motion may be moved without notice by any Member that no further action shall be taken on the censure motion with the purpose of allowing this Council to consider cautiously whether an investigation into the relevant allegation is necessary
鑒於現在要辯論的不是譴責議案，而是"不得就譴責議案再採取任何行動"的議案，因此，我必須提醒議員，就該議案進行辯論時，不應詳細討論譴責議案所述的指控內容，或有關指控是否成立，而應解釋為何支持或不支持將譴責議案所述的事宜，交付調查委員會處理。
Since the present debate is not on the censure motion but on the motion that no further action shall be taken on the censure motion I must remind Members that during the debate on this motion Members should not discuss the content of the allegations stated in the motion in detail or whether the allegations are justified . Members should explain why they support or oppose that the matter stated in the censure motion be referred to an investigation committee
這是否行為不檢，無須狡辯，答案是肯定的。
As to the question of whether it is misbehaviour the answer is in the affirmative with no room for sophistry
所以，我支持謝偉俊議員的議案，當然我也反對陳志全議員根據《議事規則》第49B條動議的"不得就謝偉俊議員動議的譴責議案再採取任何行動"的議案。
Hence I support the motion of Mr Paul TSE but I certainly oppose the motion moved by Mr CHAN Chi - chuen under Rule 49B2A of the Rules of Procedure that no further action shall be taken on the censure motion moved by Mr Paul TSE . In fact the two can be mentioned in the same breath
其實兩者可以相提並論，既然我支持謝偉俊議員的議案，我一定也反對陳志全議員的反對議案。
Since I support the motion of Mr Paul TSE I definitely oppose the motion of dissent of Mr CHAN Chi - chuen
對於陳志全議員提出議案的理由，我只可以用兩個字形容，便是"空虛"，當中並沒有substance。
Regarding Mr CHAN Chi - chuens reasons for moving the motion I can only describe them as hollow without any substance
為何他會在這種情況下完全支持鄭松泰議員，認為他當天的行為只是處理別人的廢置物品？
Why does he give full support to Dr CHENG Chung - tai under such circumstances thinking that his acts that day only served to dispose of others discarded articles?
他可以擅自侵犯別人的物品嗎？
Can he tamper with others articles without authorization?
我唯一想到的原因是他出於大愛的精神而支持鄭松泰議員，除此之外，我想不到任何理由為何他要包容鄭松泰議員的行為。
The only reason I can think of is that he supports Dr CHENG Chung - tai out of the spirit of great love . Other than that I cannot think of any reason for his condoning the acts of Dr CHENG Chung - tai
至於他的行為是否不檢，正如我剛才所說，他的行為有目共睹。
As to the question of whether his acts are misbehaviour like I said just now his acts are seen by all
我也不認為鄭松泰議員當時的表現一如其他泛民同事所說般只是一種出於幼稚的表現。
I also do not consider what Dr CHENG Chung - tai did back then were some childish acts as suggested by other Honourable colleagues from the pan - democratic camp
我絕對認同的是第一，他已經成年；第二，他在大學教書、執教鞭，作為"人之患"，對於基本的操守和行為，無須加以教導，他也應該知道怎樣做。
I absolutely agree that firstly he is already an adult; secondly he teaches at a university and works in the education sector . As a teacher he should know what he is supposed to do in terms of basic integrity and conduct without guidance from others
然而，在如此重要的時刻，他竟然作出這種行為，我認為並非純屬幼稚行為，而是從他的政治理念可以反映出來，即他倡議的本土自決。
Nevertheless we just cannot believe that at such a critical juncture he could have behaved like that . I do not consider them purely childish acts . Instead they reflect his political ideas that is localist self - determination advocated by him
但當我們綜合他的相關言論和行為，我們要討論的便不是國旗是否合乎規格，又或者尺寸多少才算是真正的國旗。
But when we consider his relevant opinions and acts as a whole what we need to discuss is not whether the national flags meet the specifications or the measurements that make them genuine national flags
任何有正常思維的人也可 以看出那是國旗的展品，而當他在提出自決和本土精神的同時把國旗倒轉，便將這種意識形態反映出來。
Anyone with a normal frame of mind can recognize that they are mock - ups of the national flags . And when he inverted the national flags while proposing self - determination and the localist spirit such an ideology was reflected
在這種情況下，他正正衝擊着及抵觸《基本法》第一百零四條關乎他作出的誓言所論述的兩種精神，就是要擁護《基本法》及效忠中華人民共和國香港特別行政區。
In that case he has precisely undermined and contradicted the two spirits set out in Article 104 of the Basic Law in relation to the oath taken by him that is upholding the Basic Law and bearing allegiance to the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the Peoples Republic of China
所以，他的行為可說是嚴重地展示出他的政治理念，讓我看到一種要推翻中華人民共和國的意識。
Hence we can say that his acts have seriously demonstrated his political ideas showing me an ideology of overturning the Peoples Republic of China
這亦不單關乎莊重的問題，他在香港立法會這個在三權中其中一個最高權力的機構做出這種行為，可大可小。
This also does not just concern solemnity . He did such acts in the Legislative Council one of the highest authorities among the three powers in Hong Kong so the impact of them should not be overlooked
我記得在1980年代或1990年代，一名美國運動員在男子4乘100米的競技場上取得冠軍，但當他站在領獎台上時，作出非常不恰當的舉措。
I recall that in the 1980s or 1990s an American athlete won the gold medal in the mens 4x100 m event in the arena . But when he was standing on the prize presentation pedestal he did a grossly improper act
在運動場、競技場上對國家的國旗有所不尊重，已可以引起這麼大的迴響。
The disrespect for the national flag of the country on the sports ground or arena can already arouse such strong repercussions
試想想在立法會內竟然有人對這種行為視而不見、聽而不聞，還把這件事說成是上綱上線，刻意迴避，或將之"幼稚化"，甚至在電台節目中或多或少表示對這類行為可以一笑置之。
Just imagine how unbelievable it is for some in the Legislative Council to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to such acts describing the issue as having been escalated to the political plane deliberately averting the issue or dismissing it as childish and even more or less claiming in a radio programme that we might just laugh off such acts
試想想這是否一個遊戲場、兒童遊樂場，或一個可以隨意走動、任意妄為的地方呢？
Just think about whether this is a play area a childrens playground or a place where people can walk around freely doing whatever they please?
當議員討論很多大是大非的問題時稍欠妥當，我們也會提出規程問題，我們現在討論的正是規程問題。
When Members act improperly in a discussion about many cardinal issues of right and wrong we will also raise a point of order . What we are discussing now is precisely a point of order
我不認為這是一種政治上的打壓，而是按照我們的規章、規則辦事。
I do not consider it political oppression . Rather we are acting in accordance with our codes and rules
最後能否取得三分之二議員支持謝偉俊議員的議案呢？
Can we secure the support of two thirds of Members for the motion of Mr Paul TSE eventually?
至於期望會否落空，我並不計較。
As to the question of whether my hope will fall through I do not mind
但當我們今天以一種認真的態度討論及辯論這件事時，我們必須發聲。
But when we discuss and debate this issue in a serious manner today we must voice our opinions
錯事不能當作是對的，對的亦不能避而不談。
We cannot talk black into white and sidestep the truth
所以，我不支持陳志全議員的反對議案，而實際上，我完全百分百支持謝偉俊議員的原議案。
For this reason I do not support the motion of dissent of Mr CHAN Chi - chuen but in fact I fully support the original motion of Mr Paul TSE
主席，我首先一定要稱讚柯創盛議員，他大義凜然地說了一個正理，他指出守法和法治的重要性。
President first of all I must sing praises of Mr Wilson OR for his righteous presentation of the truth which is the importance of abiding by the law and the rule of law
但現在的社會、立法會中，更多的人在做甚麼呢？
But nowadays in society and in the Legislative Council what are more people doing?
在鑽法律空子和玩弄遊戲規則，所以才會發生今次鄭松泰議員倒插國旗事件，然後歪理連篇，而旁邊眾多位非建 制派議員都爭相為他找藉口，說他幼稚、他的行為不檢點等，為他辯護。
They are exploiting the loopholes in law and manipulating the rules of the game leading to the incident in which Dr CHENG Chung - tai inverted the national flags . Afterwards he advanced a series of specious arguments while a number of non - establishment Members around him hurried to cover up for him with such excuses as he was childish and his behaviour was disorderly
朱凱廸議員剛才提到一位名叫利建潤的人，指他在法庭上解釋他塗污國旗的原因和理據。
Mr CHU Hoi - dick has just mentioned a man called LEE Kin - yun who explained in court the reasons and rationale for him scrawling on the national flag
但朱凱廸議員沒有說這位人士最終都要負上法律責任，被定罪。
Yet what Mr CHU Hoi - dick fell short of saying is this man was eventually found guilty and convicted
換言之，這是合理地限制言論自由。
In other words it is a reasonable limitation on the freedom of speech
希望各位不要再以利建潤案件來為鄭松泰議員的行為作合理辯解，他的行為沒有合理辯解的，全世界都知道他這種行為是錯誤的。
I hope all Honourable colleagues will stop using the case of LEE Kin - yun as a valid defence for Dr CHENG Chung - tais behaviour . There is no valid defence for his behaviour as the entire world knows his actions were wrong
議員也明白，我們經常"掛在嘴邊"的是要公平、公正，不要嚴人寬己，我希望就這方面，議員真的要自我約束，對自己的要求要較對別人要求更嚴格。
Honourable colleagues must be aware that we keep mentioning fairness justice and not treating others harshly but ourselves leniently . I wish in this respect Members do exercise some self - restraint and ask more of themselves than others . It is my personal belief
如果我流着中國人的血，我對國家表忠有甚麼問題？
If I have Chinese blood in me what is wrong with me pledging allegiance to my country?
我作為中國人，我一定要這樣做。
As Chinese I must do so
說回一個比較嚴肅的問題，早前剛當選美國總統的特朗普，在數天前發表了一篇言論："如果中國不再整頓貿易框架，我們便可能重新調整'一個中國'的政策"。
Coming back to a more serious topic the newly - elected President of the United States Donald TRUMP made some remarks a few days ago if China does not reform its trade framework we may have to readjust the one - China policy
其實，對於我來說，也是一樣。
As a matter of fact to me it is the same
鄭松泰議員這些行為：辱國、早前的一些言論：港獨，這些能夠交易嗎？
Such behaviour of Dr CHENG Chung - tai insult to the country; some comments made earlier independence of Hong Kong . Are these open for exchange?
這麼多建制派議員踴躍做這件事，便被人以口號式、"扣帽子"形式說我們表忠，為北京做事。
So many pro - establishment Members are keen on this matter only to be labelled in a slogan - like fashion as pledging allegiance to and serving Beijing
你不做中國人，我還要做；你對不起祖宗，我還要面對父母。
If you do not want to be Chinese I still want to; you have failed your ancestors but I still need to honour my parents
我要感謝謝偉俊議員給我機會，可以發言數分鐘，表達我們作為中國人內心的憤怒和不滿。
I would like to thank Mr Paul TSE for giving me the opportunity to speak for a few minutes so as to express our rage and discontent as Chinese
我希望香港市民清楚知道我們今天發言的原因。
I hope Hong Kong people will clearly appreciate the reason for us making our speeches today