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主席，當我們想到這個概念，大家真的就會擔心及憂慮。
President the thought of this really arouses our worry and anxieties
事實上，如果確認了"視為"這個概念的話，即代表我們可以把香港某些土地視為一個內地的地方，實施內地的全國性法律。
In fact acknowledging the concept of deemed as will mean that we may regard a certain area in Hong Kong as an area in the Mainland and apply national laws there
如果是這樣的話，這是否與《基本法》第十八條有所矛盾呢？
Will this contradict Article 18 of the Basic Law?
這個矛盾引申的結果和後遺症，正是很多市民大眾擔心的地方。
The consequences and repercussions of this contradiction are exactly what worry the people
剛才指出了，在經濟效益上，它要提出一個比較點，要提供具體的資料。
As pointed out earlier in relation to economic efficiency the Government must provide a benchmark of comparison and concrete statistics
事實上，按照特區政府提交的文件，差不多85%的高鐵乘客也以短途旅客作為主軸，以深圳或廣州作為目的地。
In fact the SAR Governments paper states that almost 85 % of the XRL patronage will come from short - trip passengers with Shenzhen or Guangzhou as their destinations
如果按照現時高鐵"八縱八橫"的全國性網絡來說，相當不少比例的全國性長途客其實都有需要、有必要在真正的樞紐站轉車。
And as the country embarks on developing a national high - speed rail network comprising eight vertical lines and eight horizontal lines many long - haul passengers across the country in the future must actually switch trains at interchange stations
這些數據正正關乎整個社會在討論高鐵事件期間，在經濟效益上所作的考慮，也是需要放在我們眼前的東西。
These statistics relate exactly to the discussion in society about the economic efficiency of the XRL so we should have access to the relevant information
另一方面，當然，這方案牽涉到"一國兩制"和"一地兩檢"之間的矛盾，而有關這方面，我至今仍未聽到合理答案。
Another point is of course whether the co - location arrangement is in conflict with one country two systems . In this regard I have not heard any sensible answer so far
因為，如果這個答案，最終是像袁國強司長所說般，指我們可以放心，一定不會有司法的問題。
Now all will be fine if Secretary for Justice Rimsky YUEN is indeed right in saying that we can all rest assured and there will be no legal problems
如果是這樣，那麼很自然地，可能會像司長所言般，不會有問題。
That being the case it is only natural to see no problems as advised by the Secretary for Justice
這純粹是在法律上，基於人大常委會本身作的決定對香港法院的判決有約束力，繼而引申的結果。但是，這並不代表"一國兩制"的實施，在這種狀態下不會受到影響。
But this is just the legal consequence of the binding force of NPCSCs decisions on the judgments of the courts in Hong Kong and certainly does not mean that the implementation of one country two systems is not thus affected
事實上，如果大家仍記得，《中英聯合聲明》是英國政府當時將整個香港交還中央政府，作為回歸的安排，在這個回歸的安排中，通過《中英聯合聲明》確立香港實現"一國兩制"、"港人治港"、"高度自治"，然後按這基礎來實施於香港內的所有行政、立法安排。
Members may still recall that the Sino - British Joint Declaration is the arrangement for the British Government to return Hong Kong to the Central Government . The Joint Declaration as an arrangement for returning Hong Kong to China establishes the principles of implementing one country two systems Hong Kong people ruling Hong Kong and a high degree of autonomy in Hong Kong . On the basis of these principles the executive and legislative mechanisms of Hong Kong are designed and implemented
但是，在今次這種處境下，其實很明顯與《中英聯合聲明》所承諾的事情和所作的安排有所衝突和矛盾。
The point is that what has happened this time around is obviously at variance with what is enshrined in the Joint Declaration
有關的衝突和矛盾，我當然沒有本事在這裏評論對錯，但大家不可以排除，這是很多香港人的憂慮所在。
I am of course not qualified to comment on who is right and who is wrong regarding such variance . But Members cannot deny that this is a cause of worry among many Hong Kong people
對於這個憂慮，特區政府是否不需要做任何事來解開這個結呢？
Should the SAR Government think that it does not need to allay such worry?
如果這些結一直不解，是否影響林鄭月娥經常說的工作目標，即希望能夠改善行政立法關係，希望能夠修補社會撕裂，希望能夠重建香港人對特區政府的信任？
If the worry is not allayed will there be any impact on Carrie LAMs attempts to achieve her avowed goals―improving the executive - legislature relationship healing the split of society and restoring the peoples confidence in the SAR Government?
如果是這樣，立法會對這項議案中止待續，是否正好給予特首時間，讓她可以就這事件展開真誠的全面諮詢，從而令公眾信服。
If the answer is yes can we say that this adjournment motion of the Council can serve the precise purpose of giving the Chief Executive time for launching a sincere and full - scale consultation to win over the public on the co - location arrangement?
我想大家不會有異議的是，高鐵這全國的網絡，客觀上如果能在不違反"一國兩制"的前提下而能夠有所安排，令"一地兩檢"可在香港實施、執行，可達成這樣的話，大家一定鼓掌，但問題是，至今仍有疑慮的人始終為數不少，即使是政府的民調或大學的民調也顯示，接近三成市民對這課題持有很大疑問。
I suppose we will probably agree that all of us will certainly give a big applause if we can work out some sort of co - location clearance arrangements which can keep to the premise of one country two systems by any objective standards and which can be implemented in Hong Kong for linkage with the national high - speed rail network . But the problem is that many people are still sceptical of co - location clearance . Even the opinion polls conducted by the Government or universities indicate that almost 30 % of the public remain highly sceptical
在社會上有這麼大比例的市民大眾有疑慮時，政府是否不用處理呢？
When such a large proportion of people in society are still sceptical should the Government refrain from dealing with this scepticism?
另一方面，由於這項議案並無約束力，而特區政府提出這項無約束力議案的原因，很明顯是希望通過議案的結果來成就自己，以期獲得議會通過議案，從而予人一種感覺，令政府在憲制上好像得到大多數議員支持。
Also since this government motion is non - legally binding it is obvious that it must have moved the motion simply because it wants to use the voting outcome on this motion to support its own cause . It hopes that the passage of the motion in the legislature can create an impression that constitutionally the Government has the support of the majority of Members
我不想說太多有關香港政治制度的問題，但政府面對的不單是議會，特別是在立法會這種組合裏，有這麼多偏頗的情況，政府更需要有辦法、有信心面對整個社會。
I do not intend to dwell on the problems with Hong Kongs political system . But I must still say that the legislature is not the only one the Government must face so it is especially important that amidst the many injustices arising from the present composition of the Legislative Council the Government must work out various means and have the confidence to face society
特區政府會否這樣做？
Is the SAR Government going to do so?
如果特區政府不會這樣做，我們又如何談得上改善特區政府與人民的關係，甚至進一步改善中港矛盾和關係呢？
If no how can we talk about improving the relationship between the SAR Government and the people or even easing the China - Hong Kong conflicts and improving the relationship between the two places?
我十分記得中央政府和特區政府曾說過，今次西九總站實施"一地兩檢"的要求並非來自中央政府，換言之，這並不是"硬命令"。
As I can clearly remember both the Central Government and the SAR Government have disclosed that the Central Government is not the one who requests the implementation of co - location clearance at West Kowloon Station . In other words the request is not an order as such
這要求不是"硬命令"的話，其實正好留下空間予特區政府處理相關問題，尋找社會上最合理的大多數共識。
The fact that it is not an order as such should actually give the SAR Government some elbow room for handling the issue and seeking the most sensible social consensus
政府要感謝天氣，感謝地硬，這樣才能令高鐵工程延誤和超支，令大家可以讓政府拖拉至今時今日，拖拉至新政府上台才提交這項最新的"一地兩檢"方案。
The Government must be grateful to the weather and the hard rocks because without their help the construction works of the XRL would not have run into delays and cost overruns and it would not have been possible for the Government to delay handling the issue and handing in the present co - location arrangement until so late until the time of the new administration
否則，整件事可能放在梁振英政府的手上，在2015年8月便要推行，因為按照原來計劃，當時已經要通車，亦不需要陳帆局長今天回答眾多疑問。
Had it not been for the weather and the hard rocks the whole issue might have to be handled by the LEUNG Chun - ying administration . Co - location clearance might have been implemented as early as August 2015 because the XRL was originally scheduled to commission by that time . Then it would not have been necessary for Secretary Frank CHAN to come here to answer so many questions today
所以，我說政府要感謝天氣，感謝地硬而引致高鐵延誤和超支。
That is why I say that the Government must thank the weather and the hard rocks for causing the construction delays and cost overruns of the XRL
但是，這正好反映政府欠整個社會一個清晰交代，即為甚麼整個討論並非在2015年8月便交代"一地兩檢"安排，而是直至今天才提出這個方案？
But in another sense this can aptly show that the Government owes society at large a clear answer to the one question we have in mind why is the co - location arrangement announced only today not in August 2015?
難道政府知道高鐵會超支和延誤，所以政府在2015年8月前也不用妥善準備這份文件，向公眾交代，而等待至2017年7月，政府才表示迫在眉睫，高鐵要在2018年第三季通車，所以沒有時間讓我們考慮更多不同選項？
Is it because the Government thus did not see any need to prepare a paper for public information before August 2015? . Why did the Government wait until July 2017 before it finally told us that the XRL must inaugurate in the third quarter of 2018 so the matter was extremely urgent and we would have no time for considering other options?
甚至基於這原因，中央政府將福田原先預備妥當的口岸剔除？
And is this even the reason for the Central Governments decision to remove the customs and immigration facilities which are already in place at Futian Station?
我就毛孟靜議員根據《議事規則》第401條動議現即將"有關推展廣深港高速鐵路西九龍站'一地兩檢'安排的後續工作的議案"辯論中止待續的議案發言。
I would like to speak on Ms Claudia MOs motion under Rule 401 of the Rules of Procedure that the debate on the motion concerning Taking forward the follow - up tasks of the co - location arrangement at the West Kowloon Station of the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link be now adjourned
"挑選了終生伴侶，不等於放棄其他選擇"，這果真是陳帆的一種愛情哲學。
Having chosen a lifelong partner does not mean giving up other choices . Mr Frank CHAN has indeed put forward a kind of love philosophy
看看今天陳帆局長的發言稿，我們也會發現很大的問題，而這亦支持為何我們覺得不如把有關議案中止待續，不要在此進行辯論。
Secretary Frank CHANs speech today is also full of problems . This explains our request for adjourning the debate of the motion concerned
大家細心留意一下，會看到陳帆局長在發言稿內提到，內地......
If we pay more attention we can notice that in Secretary Frank CHANs speech the Mainland
陳帆局長的發言稿提到，"內地高鐵發展一日千里，我們有必要把握機遇......將香港聯通國家高鐵網絡......通達內地各大城市"。
In his speech Secretary Frank CHAN says Given the rapid development of high - speed rail on the Mainland we must grasp the opportunity and connect Hong Kong to the national high - speed rail network for speedy access to various major cities on the Mainland
但是，事實的查核卻是，高鐵香港段的主要目的並非連接國家高鐵網 絡，因為政府預計旅客中有六成二只是來往深圳，當中連同廣州旅客則達八成。
But the fact we see after checking is that the main purpose of constructing the Hong Kong Section of the XRL is not connection to the national high - speed rail network . It is because according to the Governments estimation 62 % of the passengers will only travel between Hong Kong and Shenzhen and these passengers together with those travelling to and from Guangzhou will constitute 80 % of the total patronage
其次，陳帆局長的發言稿又提到"抵港乘客亦可......自由選擇在國家高鐵網絡任何一個車站登車，抵達西九龍站才辦理內地出境和香港入境程序"。
Besides in the speech Secretary Frank CHAN also mentions Passengers coming to Hong Kong can board trains at any station of their choice on the national high - speed rail network and go through Mainland departure clearance and Hong Kong arrival clearance at the West Kowloon Station
但是，事實的查核是，由於深圳和廣州的長途班次，是香港開出班次的很多倍，大量長途旅客本應在深圳或廣州轉車，才可以抵達香港，而西九"一地兩檢"免除中途上落車的說法，即可以免除中間一些麻煩的轉車手續，這其實也是一個相當虛無，而且暫時沒有數據證實的說法。
Nevertheless the fact we see after checking is that since the long - haul trips to and from Shenzhen and Guangzhou greatly outnumber those departing Hong Kong large numbers of long - haul visitors will have to interchange at Shenzhen or Guangzhou before arriving at Hong Kong . The remark that the co - location arrangement at West Kowloon Station can spare passengers some bothersome interchange procedures en route is rather vague and unsubstantiated by data
再看回陳帆局長指"清楚了解有關安排涉及複雜的憲制、法律及運作考慮，包括必須符合'一國兩制'和不違反《基本法》"......
Secretary Frank CHAN also says that the SAR Government clearly understands that the arrangement involves complicated constitutional legal and operational considerations including the necessity to comply with the principle of one country two systems and to ensure no violation of the Basic Law
我剛才提到，在陳帆局長的發言稿中提到"清楚了解有關安排涉及複雜的憲制、法律及運作考慮，包括必須符合'一國兩制'和不違反《基本法》"。
As I mentioned earlier in the speech Secretary Frank CHAN says that the SAR Government clearly understands that the arrangement involves complicated constitutional legal and operational considerations including the necessity to comply with the principle of one country two systems and to ensure no violation of the Basic Law
政府在2007年曾經承諾，《基本法》第二十條不會削減特區範圍的權利，這是相當重要的。
In 2007 the Government undertook that the powers vested with the Special Administrative Region would not be curtailed due to Article 20 of the Basic Law . This is very important
大家也記得，當時前立法會議員劉慧卿亦曾在相關場合提出有關問題，但現行建議卻要利用《基本法》第二十條，把西九不視為香港司法管轄區的一部分，以及繞過《基本法》第十八條，禁止在香港執行內地法律的規定。
We may also recall that Ms Emily LAU a Legislative Council Member at that time also raised some related questions on various occasions . However in the present proposal through invoking Article 20 of the Basic Law West Kowloon Station will not be regarded as part of the Hong Kong jurisdiction and Article 18 of the Basic Law which forbids the application of Mainland laws in Hong Kong will also be circumvented
如果這樣就說解決了問題，其實只是視而不見，認為沒有問題。
If this is a solution to the problem the Government is only turning a blind eye to it telling itself that there is no problem at all
該位置根本就是西九龍地底，如果在該處致電999後，竟然會被接線到公安求助，這還不是把管轄權作出了重大改變嗎？
The place is located in the basement of West Kowloon Station but when a citizen calls 999 there the call will be transferred to the public security authorities
這與《基本法》第二十條是否相違背呢？
How can anyone say that this not a substantial change in our jurisdiction or a contravention to Article 20 of the Basic Law?
同時，陳帆局長在其發言稿中，更提到"我樂意出席內務委員會特別會議，向議員闡述有關方案"。
Besides we also notice that in the speech Secretary Frank CHAN even says that he is happy to explain the relevant proposal to Members at a special House Committee meeting
可笑之處是，他在發言中提到自己相當樂意回答各界的問題，但我們看到政府至今其實也未曾答覆過民間就着高鐵班次、客量預測、經濟效益及營運安排等一系列書面質詢。
It is funny that in his speech he mentions his willingness to answer questions from various sectors while in reality the Government has never replied to the series of written questions concerning the frequency of XRL trains projection of patronage economic efficiency operational arrangements and so on
何謂正式辯論呢？
What is meant by a formal debate?
話說回頭，我們看到陳帆局長在發言稿中，亦提到"調查結果反映較多市民支持於西九龍站實施'一地兩檢'的通關安排"。
Anyway in his speech Secretary Frank CHAN also says survey findings reflect that more people support the implementation of the co - location arrangement at the West Kowloon Station as the clearance procedures
主席，其實我們看到有關的大學調查，當中並無問及市民對政府方案的認識程度，亦沒有問及市民會否考慮其他可行方案。
President the survey conducted by the university concerned did not ask the public how much they knew about the Governments proposal nor did it ask the public whether they would consider other possible options
簡單而言，"一地兩檢"是否一定要在西九龍站進行？
In brief does the co - location arrangement have to be implemented at the West Kowloon Station?
在其發言稿的最後一段，陳帆局長說："特區政府相信在西九龍站實施'一地兩檢'是務實和必要的方案，期望可以得到議會及社會的支持"。
In the last paragraph of the speech Secretary Frank CHAN says The SAR Government believes that the implementation of the co - location arrangement at the West Kowloon Station is a pragmatic and necessary proposal and hopes that it can obtain the support of the legislature and society
事實上，我們看到政府正在玩弄議會程序，令立法會無法在 投票前按慣例先召開公聽會，以及進行質詢和辯論環節。
We see that the Government is actually manipulating parliamentary procedures such that the Legislative Council is unable to convene public hearing sessions according to usual practice for questioning and debating on the motion before it is put to the vote
最低限度政府要讓我們知道整件事的相關數字、背景，以及接着下來的影響，因為市民未必清楚，但政府卻想在此蒙混過關。
The Government should at least let us know the related statistics background information and the future impact as the public may not be clear about all these . But in this Council the Government just wants to muddle through
我至今仍記得，最受影響的是菜園村。
I still remember that Choi Yuen Tsuen was the most affected village
所以，在有這麼多資 料與事實完全不符的時候，如果政府硬要在立法會進行一項無約束力的議案辯論，接着裝作已諮詢了立法會，然後展現一片歌舞昇平的景象，聲稱香港熱烈歡迎"一地兩檢"安排，其實是自己欺騙自己。
Hence when so much information given do not correlate with the facts if the Government bulldozes this non - legally binding motion through the Legislative Council pretending that it has consulted the Legislative Council and then puts on a false show of blissful euphoria claiming that Hong Kong warmly welcomes the co - location arrangement it is deceiving itself indeed
《基本法》是我們一直堅守了這麼久的律例，相信大家也要捍衞《基本法》，但現在《基本法》被西九龍站的"一地兩檢"安排一次過破壞得體無完膚，尤其是在過程中，我們看到政府解釋的方法，簡直令民間完全摸不着頭腦。
The Basic Law is the law that we have been holding fast for such a long time and we will agree that it has to be safeguarded . But now we notice that the Basic Law will be completely ruined by the implementation of the co - location arrangement at the West Kowloon Station . During the process in particular the way of explanation from the Government has totally baffled the public
最可笑的是，陳帆局長作為"著名和偉大的愛情哲學家"，竟然說甚麼揀選了終身伴侶，不等於要放棄其他選擇，有時......
The most laughable thing is that as a famous and great love philosopher Secretary Frank CHAN even talks about having identified a lifelong partner does not mean giving up other choices . Sometimes
有關推展廣深港高速鐵路西九龍站"一地兩檢"安排的後續工作的議案辯論。
The motion debate on Taking forward the follow - up tasks of the co - location arrangement at the West Kowloon Station of the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link
代理主席，我發言反對朱凱廸議員動議的議案，不將《2017年銀行業條例草案》的二讀辯論中止待續。
Deputy President I rise to speak in opposition to the motion moved by Mr CHU Hoi - dick that the Second Reading debate on the Banking Amendment Bill 2017 the Bill be not adjourned
現時，香港金融管理局可依賴《銀行業條例》賦予的資料收集權力，以規定認可機構擬訂恢復計劃。
The Hong Kong Monetary Authority HKMA presently can rely on the power of information gathering under the Banking Ordinance to require authorized institutions AIs to prepare recovery plans
以往的例子只說明一點，便是事情重大而緊急，才會動用這機制處理。
Instances in the past only point to the fact that such a mechanism is employed only for matters of enormous import and urgency
如果向金管局賦予這種廣泛權力的過程不經內務委員會及隨後經議員同意而成立的法案委員會進一步審議，便會開創危險的先例，即我們只是簡單而隨意地把重大的權力賦予一間機構，但卻無法掌握當中的執行細節。
If the process of granting HKMA such extensive powers is not subjected to further scrutiny by the House Committee and then by a Bills Committee set up with the consensus of Members it will set a dangerous precedent of the Legislative Council easily and arbitrarily granting significant powers to an organization but failing to grasp the details of implementation
據資料摘要所述，當局已就《條例草案》進行不少諮詢，我相信業界人士皆同意有關方向，即加強對銀行業的監管，以及為銀行業制定相關法例，以應對巴塞爾銀行監管委員會的新標準。
According to the Legislative Council Brief the authorities had done a lot of consultation on the Bill . I believe members of the industry agree to the direction of enhancing regulation of the banking industry as well as enacting the relevant banking legislation in response to the new standards of the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision
大家一定會同意這些方向。
All of us will definitely agree to such a direction
在執行細節方面，資料摘要指出政府已於7月就《條例草案》的細節再次諮詢銀行界。
As regards details of the implementation the Legislative Council Brief stated that the Government already conducted another consultation with the banking industry on the details of the Bill in July
不過，這些細節是否與大家在審議過程中看到的細節相同呢？
Yet are these details the same as those we will see in the course of scrutiny of the Bill?
由於毛孟靜議員提出了中止待續議案，本會現在先處理這項議案。
As Ms Claudia MO has moved a motion for adjournment of debate Council will deal with this motion first
主席，我發言反對由毛孟靜議員提出的中止待續議案。
President I rise to speak against the adjournment motion moved by Ms Claudia MO
主席，感謝你的提醒，但因為我要回應同事們的建議，希望你可以對我稍為忍耐。
President thanks for the reminder yet I have to respond to the suggestions made by colleagues . I hope you can be a bit indulgent of me
我剛才提到我們未有討論仔細具體的標準，例如在甚麼情況下未必需要公眾諮詢或公眾參與的公聽會，又或未必需要持份者進行修訂的權力。
Just now I said that we had not yet discussed the detailed and specific criteria for invoking the rule such as the circumstances under which public consultations or public hearings with public participation may be unnecessary or where stakeholders may not necessarily need to exercise the right to propose amendments
實際上，據我理解，這並非很複雜的事情，當中其實有一個核心之處，而局長在他昨天的發言也提到這一點。
In fact to my understanding this is not that complicated . There is one core issue and the Secretary mentioned this in his speech yesterday
就建立這個框架而言，其實大家可以思考我剛才提出的問題，即究竟應否賦權金融管理專員處理這些附屬法例，按照"先訂立後審議"的程序，令處理過程更具彈性及更有效率。
Regarding the establishment of this framework Members may think about the issues I mentioned just now that is whether the MA should be empowered to handle the subsidiary legislation concerned through the negative vetting procedure for the purpose of maintaining flexibility and enhancing efficiency
如果大家能夠作出決定，便未必一定要交付內務委員會和法案委員會處理。
If Members can make a decision on this it may not be necessary to refer the Bill to the House Committee and the Bills Committee
香港的立法會逐漸變得"人大化"，以至"中國共產黨全國代表大會化"，即有如習近平前天的做法般，詢問是否有人反對或棄權也沒有人敢舉手，人人也贊成。
The Legislative Council of Hong Kong is becoming NPC - like and Communist Party of China National Congress - like gradually . As XI Jinping did a few days ago when he asked if anyone opposed or abstained no one dared raise his hand and all expressed support
主席，在這種大背景下，身為市民的代表，我認為我有責任力挽狂瀾，不僅為民主派，亦為整個立法會開發更多議會的自主權力。
President against this general background I as a representative of the people consider that I am obliged to do my level best to turn the tide not only for the pro - democracy camp but also to explore greater autonomy for the Legislative Council as a legislature
在我就這項議案提出待決議題之前，我想提醒議員，根據《議事規則》第544條，該議案如獲得通過，《2017年銀行業條例草案》的二讀辯論便不會中止待續；如議案被否決，《條例草案》的二讀辯論便會中止待續，而《條例草案》須交付內務委員會處理。
Before I put the question on this motion I would like to remind Members that according to RoP 544 if this motion is passed the Second Reading debate of the Banking Amendment Bill 2017 will not be adjourned; and if this motion is negatived the Second Reading debate of the Bill will be adjourned and the Bill will be referred to the House Committee
我想提醒準備發言的議員，本會現在是辯論是否支持由毛孟靜議員提出"現即將辯論中止待續"的議案。
I wish to remind Members who intend to speak that this Council is now debating the question of whether the motion moved by Ms Claudia MO that the debate be now adjourned should be supported
今天最少有10份以上的報章指出，他們提出第544條是為了阻止"一地兩檢"的議案，所以，不是我猜測他們的動機，而是他們這個動作造成一個客觀效果。
It was reported in at least 10 newspapers today that they proposed the motion under RoP 544 in order to impede the motion on the co - location arrangement . So I am not imputing motives to them but their action created an objective effect
其中黎姓金主旗下的報章報道："反對派指'一地兩檢'有違《基本法》，他們的行動是為了反抗政府。
Among these newspapers the one under the principal surnamed LAI reported that The opposition camp claimed that co - location is against the Basic Law; their action aims at fighting against the Government
"，我再重複一次，是為了反抗政府，如今他們用盡每一處空間來拖延，並不是我猜測他們的動機。
Let me repeat it aims at fighting against the Government . They are now seizing each and every opportunity to delay it and I am not imputing motives to them
今次這種方式，由涂謹申議員辦事處獻計，這是引述報章報道，而不是我的猜測。
Quoting a newspaper report instead of my own speculation this approach was suggested by Mr James TOs office
《三字經》說"曰仁義，禮智信，此五常，不容紊"，為何"智"會放在"仁義"之後呢？
The Three - Character Classic said We speak of charity of heart and of duty towards ones neighbour of propriety of wisdom and of truth . These five virtues admit of no compromise . Why is wisdom placed after charity of heart and duty towards ones neighbour?
因為如果運用智慧、技術和學識為惡，便會為社會帶來非常大的損害，所以做人當以仁義為先。
Because if used for evil deeds wisdom technology and knowledge will do great harms to society . Hence charity of heart and duty towards ones neighbour should take precedence when one conducts oneself
我也想借此機會告誡政府，《議事規則》是供君子使用的，既然現時有部分立法會議員已經不是君子，政府應該學乖，我們這些正直的議員也要學乖，要懂得用權。
I would also like to take this opportunity to caution the Government that RoP is made for gentlemen . Since some Members of the Legislative Council are no longer gentlemen the Government should learn the lesson . We Members who are straight should also learn the lesson and exercise our power
所以，我希望政府將來醒目一點。
I hope the Government will be smarter in the future
主席，我想確定一個問題......
President I would like to confirm one point
這並非規程問題，如果你有不明白之處，可在會議後向秘書處查詢。
This is not a point of order . If you do not understand this you may make enquiries with the Secretariat after the meeting
我會依次請要動議修正案的毛孟靜議員、陳淑莊議員、譚文豪議員、郭榮鏗議員、楊岳橋議員、郭家麒議員、張超雄議員及胡志偉議員發言，但他們在現階段不可動議修正案。
I will call upon Members who will move the amendments to speak in the following order Ms Claudia MO Ms Tanya CHAN Mr Jeremy TAM Mr Dennis KWOK Mr Alvin YEUNG Dr KWOK Ka - ki Dr Fernando CHEUNG and Mr WU Chi - wai but they may not move amendments at this stage
首先，我對毛孟靜議員的議案表示支持。
First of all I support Ms Claudia MOs motion
首先，我也想評論今早林鄭月娥批評我們民主派無所不用其極，利用《議事規則》作為工具，以圖拖延政府今天提出的議案。
Before that I would like to comment on Mrs Carrie LAMs criticism of the pro - democracy camp for using our utmost endeavours including using RoP as a tool to delay this Government motion today