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我希望在《條例草案》落實一段時間後，政府可以向本會提交報告，讓本會知悉落實有關規定的情況，特別是有否工友因而誤墮法網，打工而負上刑責。
I hope that the Government would submit a report to the Legislative Council after the amended legislation has been in force for some time to update us of the implementation of the relevant provisions . We are particular keen to know if any workers have breached the law inadvertently in the course of their work and thus have to bear the criminal liabilities
此外，水務署亦要檢討現時水喉從業員的相關指引，廣為宣傳，提醒修訂後的《水務設施條例》的相關責任。
Besides the Water Supplies Department also has to review its guidelines and step up its publicity efforts to remind plumbing practitioners of their possible liabilities under the amended Waterworks Ordinance
代理主席，要提高本港水務設施的建造、安裝和保養水平，加強培訓是必須的工作。
Deputy President enhanced training is indispensable if we wish to raise the standards of the construction installation and maintenance of the local waterworks facilities
現時，水喉匠的牌照名義上是1年期，但仍有5年緩衝期，讓持牌水喉匠保留牌照，不會失去水喉匠的資格。
Under the existing licensing rules a plumbers licence is valid for one year but the plumber will have as long as five years grace during which the licence will not be revoked and the plumber will not be disqualified
水喉匠的續牌事宜與《條例草案》沒有直接關係，但如何提供誘因，讓水喉匠能及時提升技能，保障市民供水系統的安全可靠，政府不應只靠監管，在培訓與業界技術提升方面，政府仍有大量工作可做。
While the licence renewal is not directly related to the Bill the Government will still need to consider how it can provide incentives to encourage plumbers to enhance their skills so as to ensure the safe and reliable plumbing system . In addition to the monitoring work the Government still has a lot to do to promote training and technical upgrades in the trade
主席，在我正式進入我的發言稿之前，先容許我簡單回應政務司司長剛才代表政府的發言。
President before I formally deliver my speech allow me to give a simple response to the speech delivered by the Chief Secretary for Administration on behalf of the Government just now
但是，主席，無論他們護主多麼情切，僭建就是僭建，事實就是事實，要來的終歸要來。
However President regardless of how earnestly they are defending their lord unauthorized building works UBWs are UBWs facts are facts and what is coming will ultimately come
主席，我會在以下時間簡單梳理一下律政司司長僭建事件的時間線，當中涉及很多我們已耳熟能詳的事實，但我希望主席能容許我完成這個步驟，因為這個步驟對我後面的論述有極關鍵的作用。
President next I will present the timeline of the UBWs concerning the Secretary for Justice . My speech will cover many facts that we are already very familiar with but I hope that the President will allow me to complete this step which is crucial for my ensuing discourse
在本年1月5日，鄭司長獲任命。
Ms CHENG was appointed on 5 January this year
同日，傳媒報道其位於屯門的獨立屋疑似有地庫、天台屋等僭建物。
On the same day the media reported that her villa in Tuen Mun was found to have suspected UBWs including a basement and a rooftop structure
翌日，即1月6日，鄭司長召開簡單記者會，表示僭建物在購入時已存在，並非由她興建。
On the next day ie . 6 January Ms CHENG held a simple press conference saying that the UBWs were not erected by her as they already existed when she purchased her home
1月7日傳媒報道，經過對比過去10年的衞星圖，記者發現獨立屋的屋頂有明顯差異，懷疑鄭司長在購入該獨立屋後自行興建僭建物。
On 7 January the media reported that having detected obvious differences between the rooftop of the villa as shown in satellite images over the past 10 years journalists suspected that Ms CHENG erected the UBWs after purchasing the villa
一位香港法治的守護者、香港其中一位最高級別的政治任命官員，其僭建問題、誠信問題，我們竟然只能依靠傳媒的發掘才能得知。
As for a defender of the rule of law in Hong Kong one of the highest - level politically - appointed officials of Hong Kong we can surprisingly only get to know the problems with her UBWs and integrity by relying on media investigations
的確，鄭司長曾召開記者會解釋事件，亦曾在1月29日出席司法及法律事務委員會時，借講解律政司的施政策略，在立法會內就僭建問題嘗試"解畫"。
It is true that Ms CHENG held a press conference to explain the incident and when attending a meeting of the Panel on Administration of Justice and Legal Services on 29 January she sought to elaborate on the UBWs issue while explaining the policy initiatives of the Department of Justice
不過，涉事的所有文件，包括被傳媒披露過的圖則、地契和銀行按揭文件等，以致傳媒找不到的相關文件，鄭司長從來也沒有正式公開過。
However Ms CHENG has never formally disclosed all the documents involved including building plans conveyances on sale and mortgage agreements disclosed by the media as well as documents the media failed to find
主席，這點才是今次議案的重點。
President this is a key point of this motion
我們不單希望傳召鄭司長到立法會就僭建接受質詢，更要求她帶齊所有相關文件的正本，藉立法會這個平台，公開說服所有香港人，她即使有僭建，即使知法犯法，仍然是一位稱職的律政司司長。
Not only do we hope to summon Ms CHENG to the Legislative Council to take questions on her UBWs but we also request her to bring all the original documents concerned to the platform of the Legislative Council so as to convince all Hong Kong people in public that despite her UBWs despite her violation of laws knowingly she is still a competent Secretary for Justice
所以，其實今次莫乃光議員提出這項議案，並非要鄭司長難堪，並非要公審她，而是搭建一個平台，讓鄭司長把所有的證供和物證放在陽光之下，讓她有機會逐一說明各種疑問，以免她在未來數年的任期內背負"僭建司長"這個污名。
For this reason Mr Charles Peter MOK moved this motion not for the purpose of embarrassing Ms CHENG or putting her on public trial . Rather he seeks to set up a platform that enables Ms CHENG to place all testimonies and evidence under the sun so that she will be able to respond to all the queries one by one lest she should bear such a notorious name as Secretary for Justice UBWs during her tenure in the coming years
一個動機如此良好的議案，我看不到為甚麼保皇黨同事不應該支持。
I fail to see why royalist Members should not support this motion with such a good intention
此外，主席，除了僭建，社會亦有聲音關注鄭司長的丈夫潘樂陶先生涉嫌利益衝突的問題。
In addition President apart from UBWs the alleged conflict of interest on the part of Ms CHENGs husband Mr Otto POON is also a concern voiced in society
據傳媒報道，潘先生與現任運輸及房屋局局長陳帆交情不淺，陳局長不單曾經出入潘先生的屯門大宅，甚至為潘先生和鄭司長的婚禮擔任男方的證婚人。
According to media reports Mr POON maintains friendly relations with the incumbent Secretary for Transport and Housing Frank CHAN . Not only did Secretary Frank CHAN visit Mr POON at his Tuen Mun villa but he was also the grooms witness at the wedding ceremony of Mr POON and Ms CHENG
巧合的是，在陳局長出任機電工程署署長期間，潘先生名下的安樂工程集團投得多達24份政府工程合約，總工程款額超過8億元。
Coincidentally during the period when Secretary Frank CHAN served as the Director of Electrical and Mechanical Services ATAL Engineering Group under Mr POONs name won as many as 24 government contracts and the total project costs involved exceeded 800 million
主席，我並非揣測究竟當中有 甚麼不可告人的事情，我亦不會揣測鄭司長上任後，安樂工程集團會否更生意興隆。
President I am not speculating on whether any hidden agenda was involved neither will I speculate on whether ATAL Engineering Group will fare even better following Ms CHENGs assumption of office
不過，單以潘先生和陳局長的交情，社會已可合理懷疑他們背後會否有其他利益關係。
However simply judging from the relations between Mr POON and Secretary Frank CHAN society can reasonably suspect the entanglement of interests on their part
當政府可以用"政治聯繫"來猜測一個人的思想，然後剝奪她的參選權時，社會又為何不可以用"利益聯繫"來懷疑高官及其家人？
When the Government can use political affiliation to speculate on a persons line of thinking and strip her of the right to stand for election why cant society use entanglement of interests to suspect senior officials and their family members?
主席，我希望我是危言聳聽，但實際上，相關問題的確正在發生，亦合理地令香港人有所擔憂。
President I wish I were an alarmist but as a matter of fact the problems are indeed going on making Hong Kong people worried to a reasonable extent
除了關注潘先生和陳局長之間的利益關係，我們也關注在做品格審查時，究竟鄭司長有否向當局披露她的配偶的這些利益關係。
Apart from being concerned about the entanglement of interests between Mr POON and Secretary Frank CHAN we are also concerned about whether Ms CHENG disclosed the entanglement of interests on the part of her spouse during the integrity check
的確，主席，在鄭司長僭建事件裏，社會的另一個關注點是政府官員的品格審查制度。
Indeed President regarding the UBWs incident concerning Ms CHENG another concern of society is the integrity checking system for government officials
當然我明白，政府很容易以品格審查的實質內容不能披露來敷衍我們，但經過鄭司長今次的事件後，實實在在放在我們眼前的，是品格審查制度的徹底崩壞。
I certainly understand that the Government may reply perfunctorily by saying that the details of integrity check should not be disclosed but following the current incident concerning Ms CHENG the fact has been laid bare that the integrity checking system has totally crumbled
即使不是崩壞，主席，這也顯示制度的極度不完善。
Even if it has not crumbled President the system is extremely faulty
品格審查時，究竟有否問相關人士有否僭建？
When integrity check was conducted was a question put to the person concerned on the existence of UBWs?
相關人士在回答時有否任何隱瞞？
Did the person concerned conceal any facts in reply?
這些問題，我相信不單立法會，其實社會各界也非常關心，非常想知道答案。
I believe not only the Legislative Council but also various social sectors are all concerned about these questions and want to know the answers
主席，如果政府繼續選擇做鴕鳥，不回應這些問題，長遠的結果是香港社會不會再相信所謂的品格審查制度。
President if the Government continues to act like ostrich and refuses to reply to these questions in the long run the Hong Kong society will no longer believe in the so - called integrity checking system
若然如此，不單是鄭司長，往後所有政治任命官員，即使身家清白，即使沒有僭建或誠信問題，恐怕亦難以獲得香港人的信任。
In that case not only Ms CHENG but also all future politically - appointed officials will hardly be able to win the trust of Hong Kong people even if they are clean even if they are free from any UBWs or integrity problems
主席，我們希望透過今次的機會，使政府能夠向我們坦白，挽回我們對於品格審查制度的信心。
President we hope the Government will make use of this opportunity to be frank with us and restore our confidence in the integrity checking system
今天坐在會議廳內的張建宗司長是資深的公僕，必然與我們一樣重視品格審查制度，亦不希望未來政府其他高官上任時，香港人投來懷疑的目光，不再信任這制度。
As Chief Secretary Matthew CHEUNG now sitting in the Chamber is a senior civil servant he certainly attaches a great deal of importance to the integrity checking system like we do . He likewise does not wish to see that in future Hong Kong people will cast a doubtful eye on other senior government officials upon their assumption of office and no longer have any trust in this system
主席，在我結束我的發言前，我想藉此機會指出鄭司長的僭建與現時有份參加補選的某位候選人是有分別的。
President before concluding my speech I would like to take this opportunity to say that the UBWs case of Ms CHENG is different from that of a certain candidate now running for a by - election
一位只是參選、不知能否勝選的人處理僭建後才開始選舉工程，為甚麼會較一名已經上任、被傳媒揭發事件才以"擠牙膏"的方式公開僭建的人嚴重？
As for a candidate who runs for an election without knowing whether he will succeed and who started his electioneering campaign only after tackling his UBWs why would his case be more severe than the case of a person who upon assumption of office disclosed information on her UBWs in a manner of squeezing toothpaste out of a tube only after the media had uncovered the incident?
況且，相關候選人的物業已由於僭建而被"釘契"，在2011年，他亦主動向屋宇署申報物業內的5項僭建物。
Furthermore an encumbrance has been imposed on the property of the candidate due to his UBWs and in 2011 he took the initiative to report five UBWs in his home to the Buildings Department
主席，僭建就是僭建，就是違例，分別在於處理的方法。
President UBWs are UBWs and they are illegal; the approaches to tackling them tell the difference
在事件揭發後，鄭司長的處理手法每次均令人失望，完全沒有令人感到她有開誠布公的誠意，甚至令人懷疑她至今仍有所隱瞞。
Following the uncovering of the incident Ms CHENGs handling has been disappointing on each and every occasion giving people the impression that she does not have the sincerity to be upfront and honest making people even suspect that she has so far concealed certain facts
我們希望做到公平些，讓鄭司長能夠有公平的機會去辯解，而這 項議案的提議正是給予她最好、最後的辯解機會。
We hope to be fair by allowing Ms CHENG a fair opportunity to explain and the proposal in this motion exactly serves as the best and last opportunity for her to explain
主席，我反對莫乃光議員根據《中華人民共和國香港特別行政區基本法》第七十三條第五項及第十項，傳召律政司司長於2018年2月28日到立法會席前，就其是否仍然適合出任律政司司長的有關問題，包括其寓所的僭建物、其購入有關物業的過程、其名下的公司、其丈夫名下的公司與政府工程有關的業務，其就上述問題及在品格審查的過程中有否涉及隱瞞，以及其他一切相關事宜，作證及出示所有相關的文據、簿冊、紀錄或文件。
President I oppose Mr Charles Peter MOKs motion that pursuant to Article 735 and 10 of the Basic Law of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the Peoples Republic of China this Council summons the Secretary for Justice to attend before the Council on 28 February 2018 to testify and to produce all relevant papers books records or documents regarding issues in relation to whether she is still fit for the position of Secretary for Justice including the unauthorized building structures in her residence the process of purchasing the property concerned the company or companies under her name the public works - related business of the company under her husbands name and whether she was involved in any concealment of facts regarding the aforesaid issues and in the process of integrity check and all other related matters
我相信大家都記得，律政司司長於今年1月6日履新當天，被傳媒揭發大宅僭建，事發至今已整整一個月，司長本人已不下一次向市民交代，包括多次召開記者會、上電台"解畫"、接受聽眾查問及來立法會接受議員質詢，並且就自己的疏忽，向市民道歉。
I believe Members all recollect that when the Secretary for Justice assumed office on 6 January this year the media uncovered unauthorized building works UBWs in her house . Over the past month since the occurrence of the incident the Secretary for Justice has given an account to the public on various occasions including holding press conferences offering an explanation on radio shows taking questions from the audience and taking Members questions at the Legislative Council; and she has apologized to the public for her negligence
凡此種種，都 體現出司長開誠布公，願意承擔責任，而非逃避問題。
All these indicate that the Secretary for Justice is upfront and honest and she is willing to take responsibility rather than dodge the issue
我不知道仍然要傳召司長來立法會解釋，用意何在？
Now that the Member still summons the Secretary for Justice to attend before the Council to offer an explanation I wonder what his intention is
是否要無限放大司長的無心之失，利用立法會的平台作"公審"，然後借事件打擊政府施政和管治威信，將香港重新拉入內鬥虛耗的漩渦之中？
Does he want to magnify indefinitely the negligence of the Secretary for Justice take advantage of the Council as a platform to conduct a public trial capitalize on the incident to attack the Government in respect of policy implementation and governance and drag Hong Kong again into a spiral of infighting and attrition?
無可否認，司長在決定加入政府，擔任律政司司長一職後，未有審視寓所是否出現僭建問題，做法絕對是不夠審慎，甚至有疏忽，政治敏感度不足，她是有改善的空間。
Undoubtedly the fact that the Secretary for Justice had not examined whether there were UBWs in her residence before deciding to join the Government and take up the post of Secretary for Justice has definitely reflected her carelessness or even negligence as well as the lack of political sensibility
但是，觀乎司長以前一直埋首法律工作，並非政治人物，大家應該體諒她的政治警覺性較其他問責官員低。
There is room for her to make improvements . However as the Secretary for Justice has all along been dedicated to legal work and she is not a political figure allowances should be made for her political vigilance being lower than that of other accountability officials
再者，僭建風波到現時為止，司長如有犯錯，也沒有涉及犯法行為，不至於"人頭落地"。
In addition as far as the UBWs controversy is concerned the Secretary for Justice has not been involved in criminal acts even though she has made mistakes
我相信，她會"經一事，長一智"，日後會提高敏感度，以行動去釋除公眾對她的疑慮。
She should not be punished by being beheaded . I believe that she will learn from her mistakes raise her sensibility in the future and take actions to dispel public suspicions about her
事實上，今次僭建風波，外界主要對司長有兩點質疑：第一，司長是否購入物業後才自行僭建；第二，司長購入物業後，是否已知道物業有僭建而知法犯法。
In fact regarding the current controversy over UBWs the public has mainly raised two queries concerning the Secretary for Justice first did the Secretary for Justice carry out the UBWs after purchasing the property; second did the Secretary for Justice knowingly violate the law given that she knew there were UBWs in the property after the purchase
為此，我再次審視司長過去的解釋。
In this connection I once again reviewed the explanations given by the Secretary for Justice earlier
至於屋內的地庫，署方指沒有實質證據，證明是何時建造的。
As regards the basement of the house the Department said that it had no evidence showing when it was constructed
至於第二點質疑，即司長是否知法犯法，其實她已經解釋很多次，承認是自己疏忽，因公忘私，並且多次向公眾致歉。
As for the second query that is whether the Secretary for Justice had knowingly violated the law she has actually given her explanation time and again acknowledging her negligence and her neglect of private affairs due to engagement in public service . And she has apologized to the public time and again
她亦已經配合屋宇署調查，反映她是願意即時處理問題。
Her support of the investigation conducted by the Buildings Department reflects her willingness to tackle the problems immediately
主席，我知道僭建事件少不免會影響市民對司長的觀感，市民對問責高官的品格審查要求，亦會比一般人高。
President I know that the UBWs incident will inevitably affect the publics perception of the Secretary for Justice and members of the public have higher integrity requirements on accountability officials than on ordinary people
這是無可厚非的。
This is understandable
過去一個月，司長已經承受巨大壓力，不僅個人形象受影響，家人亦受牽連，傳媒終日在其寓所等候，航拍、偷拍也出齊，已經毫無私隱可言。
Over the past one month the Secretary for Justice has been living under immense pressure . Not only was her personal image tarnished but her family was also affected . Media workers waited all day long in front of her residence resorting to even aerial photography and clandestine filming leaving her with no privacy whatsoever
在這樣困難的時刻，一般人可能已經心灰意冷，抽身離去，但司長卻願意面對，迎難而上。
At such a difficult moment an ordinary person would have been disheartened and departed but the Secretary for Justice is instead willing to face up to the situation and tackle the difficulties
坦白說，以鄭若驊在法律界的江湖地位及能力，根本無須加入政府這個"熱廚房"，被傳媒監察，被大家說三道四。
Frankly speaking given her status in the legal profession and her competence Teresa CHENG simply did not need to enter the hot kitchen of the Government to be monitored by the media and to be subject to all sorts of remarks
目前香港這個非黑即白的泛政治化氛圍，真的很難找到有能之士加入政府，尤其是律政司司長一職，要找到人才犧牲自己事業去擔任，我相信真的比較難。
Given the current pan - politicized atmosphere of Hong Kong where things are either black or white it is really difficult to identify competent persons to join the Government especially for the post of Secretary for Justice . I believe it is really difficult to identify a talent who is willing to sacrifice his own career to take up the work
離開是很容易，俗語有云：拍拍屁股就走，但留下來卻需要很大的勇氣。
Departure is easy . As the saying goes it takes little effort for one to leave but it takes a great deal of courage to stay
如果司長能夠頂着壓力，繼續秉持為香港服務的心，我們為何不能給她一次機會，花時間做好手上的工作？
If the Secretary for Justice can withstand pressure and continue to be determined to serve Hong Kong why cant we give her a chance and allow her to spend some time performing the tasks at hand?
是否一定要窮追猛打，不斷翻她舊帳、傳召她來立法會凌辱一番，大家便會很高興呢？
Is it that Members will only be pleased if she is pursued and attacked ceaselessly her past records reviewed constantly and she is summoned to the Council to be humiliated?
近年，本港社會高度政治化，立法會已淪為反對派"公審"政府、官員的平台，早前司長出席司法及法律事務委員會特別會議，已就僭建事件作出詳細解釋，但反對派知道這個風波開始慢慢冷卻，於是利用立法會傳召司長，再次翻炒問題，興風作浪，令她無法專心開展新的工作，包括"一地兩檢"的本地立法工作。
Hong Kong society has been highly politicized in recent years and the Legislative Council has degenerated into a platform for the opposition to put the Government and officials on public trial . Earlier the Secretary for Justice attended a special meeting of the Panel on Administration of Justice and Legal Services to give a detailed account of the UBWs incident . Noting that the controversy had started to cool down the opposition took advantage of the Council to summon the Secretary for Justice in an attempt to hype the issue again and stir up troubles so that she would not be able to focus on her new tasks including the local legislative exercise for the co - location arrangement
主席，反對派的政治人物也曾經被踢爆有僭建，有些人甚至毫無悔意，不作跟進，他們對司長的無限上綱上線的攻擊，根本是雙重標準，不得人心。
President it was uncovered that certain opposition political figures also have UBWs in their homes but some of them were unrepentant and took no follow - up actions . Their unscrupulous attack on the Secretary for Justice basically underlines their double standards and unpopularity
主席，我相信大部分市民，都願意給司長一點空間、一點包容，令她可以專心一意履行職務，服務社會。
President I believe that most members of the public are willing to give room to and show more tolerance towards the Secretary for Justice so that she will be able to concentrate on discharging her duties and serving the community
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：《2017年應課稅品條例草案》，予以三讀並通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the Dutiable Commodities Amendment Bill 2017 be read the Third time and do pass
主席，我動議 《2017年水務設施條例草案》 予以三讀並通過。
President I move that the Waterworks Amendment Bill 2017 be read the Third time and do pass
上述故事證明了酒精害人，真的不可不防，因為酒精會削弱人的自制能力。
The above story serves to prove that we really should beware of the possible harm caused by alcohol which will reduce peoples self - control ability
我們也曾聽聞無數此等悲劇，正因為酒能亂性，酒後駕駛會導致許多交通意外發生。
We have also heard of countless such tragedies precisely because people will lose sobriety under the influence of alcohol and drink driving will lead to the occurrence of many traffic accidents
香港是一個很奇怪的地方。
Hong Kong is a very strange place
但是，主席，我覺得更重要的是，這項《條例草案》可以引起社會大眾的關注，令更多家長了解到酒精會對青年人造成的禍害......
However Chairman I think what is more important is that the Bill helps arouse public concerns so that more parents become aware of the possible harm that can be done to adolescents
其實，呼籲青少年不要喝酒與呼籲他們不要吸毒或不要賭博一般，是整個社會、政府、家長和成年人的責任。政府不應單單呼籲青少年不要吸食毒品，亦應呼籲青少年不要喝酒和不要賭博才對。主席，我謹此陳辭。
While calling upon adolescents not to drink liquor the
主席，我終於明白何謂一石激起千重浪。
Chairman I finally understand how one stone can whip up thousand waves
首先，我要就政府的兩組修正案發言。
We need to speak . First I wish to speak on the two groups of amendments proposed by the Government
第一組修正案的相關安排，我們工聯會是支持的。
The Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU will support the arrangements set out in the first group of amendments
我記得張宇人議員剛才重提數年前有關醫生註冊的修訂條例草案的審議過程。
I remember Mr Tommy CHEUNG mentioned just now the scrutiny of the amendment bill on medical registration a few years ago
不過，如果大家上網翻查紀錄，便可以得知曾經有一名病人向他作出民事訴訟。
But if we search on the Internet we can find a patient took civil procedures against him
所以，我希望今次大家透過辯論，能夠清楚地說出自己的理據，讓政府汲取今次經驗。
Hence I hope that in this debate we can clearly set out our justifications so that the Government can learn from this experience
其實，政府在全體委員會審議階段，應該已經充分聽到委員的意見。
In fact the Government should have fully grasped Members views at the Committee stage
正如我剛才所說，我希望，無論第二部分的修正案能否在今天獲得通過，政府也應該在條例草案通過之後，盡快進行檢討。
As I said just now I hope that no matter the second group of amendment is passed today or not the Government can expeditiously conduct a review after passage of the Bill
我想呼籲同事不要動氣。
I call on Members not to get angry
大家以事論事，繼續討論這項法例，希望條例草案在今天通過之後，不論第二部分的修正案是否獲得通過，政府也會盡快進行檢討。
We can concentrate on the discussion . Continue to discuss this ordinance . I hope that after the passage of the Bill today no matter the second group of amendment is passed or not the Government will expeditiously conduct a review
在法案委員會審議《條例草案》期間，香港工會聯合會、香港建造業總工會和香港喉管從業員總會等代表曾多次聯同商會與政府會面，而有關工會代表亦再另行與政府進行數次會面，仔細就《條例草案》的修訂內容進行討論。
In the course of the scrutiny of the Bill by the Bills Committee various meetings with the Government were jointly held by representatives of the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions the FTU the Hong Kong Construction Industry Employees General Union the Hong Kong Plumbing General Union and business associations . Moreover representatives of those trade unions had also met with the Government separately several times to discuss in detail the contents of the amendments to the Bill
在與我們多次溝通後，政府作出了一些修訂。
The Government proposed some amendments accordingly after having numerous encounters with us
對於政府在聽取工會和工友的意見後作出相關修訂，我們表示歡迎，亦希望政府日後在制定任何關於《水務設施條例》的其他條文時，也能聆聽前線工友的意見。
We welcome that the Government proceeded to come up with relevant amendments after listening to the views of both the trade unions and workers and hope that it will also listen to the views of frontline workers in formulating any other provisions of the Waterworks Ordinance WWO
《條例草案》的主體內容，是有關容許在《建造業工人註冊條例》下註冊的指定工種的註冊技工及在持牌水喉匠或相關技工指導下的一般工人，可以合法地進行喉管工程，從而肯定有關的建造業工人對喉管行業的貢獻。
The main body of the Bill is about allowing skilled workers registered under the Construction Workers Registration Ordinance CWRO for the designated trade divisions and general workers under the instruction and supervision of a licensed plumber or relevant skilled worker to lawfully perform plumbing works thereby recognizing the contribution made to the plumbing industry by relevant construction workers
但是，我們也關注到，現行的《水務設施條例》仍未有就承建商及一些相關專業人士的責任作出界定。
Yet we also note with concern that the responsibilities of the contractors and relevant professionals have not been delineated in the existing WWO
我們一直擔心工人因而須承擔承建商、專業人士或其僱主的責任，因此特別就工人在工程被發現違規時的刑責問題多次與政府進行磋商。
We have been worrying that the workers will have to bear the responsibilities of the contractors professionals or their employers as a result . And so we had negotiated with the Government for a number of times on the issue of criminal liability of workers in the event of contravention of WWO during construction
稍後在全體委員會審議階段討論修正案時，我會進一步解釋為何我們支持政府的修正案。
I will further explain why we support the amendments proposed by the Government later during the discussion on the amendments by the committee of the whole Council