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主席，郭家麒議員的修正案建議最終達致全面取消服務外判制度，這一點我絕對不能認同，亦不會予以支持，因為全面取消外判制度根本與實際情況脫節。
President Dr KWOK Ka - kis amendment proposes to eventually achieve the complete abolition of the service outsourcing system . On this point I absolutely cannot agree with him . I will not support it because the complete abolition of the service outsourcing system is actually detached from the actual situation
然而，我認同要檢討政府服務外判的方式，包括研究可否以公務員合約條款聘用僱員擔任有長期服務需求的工作崗位、外判合約條款的內容，以及服務外判後政府如何監察外判承辦商。
Having said that I agree that the Government should review the approach for its service outsourcing which includes conducting studies on recruiting employees on civil service agreement terms to fill positions with long - term service needs the terms and conditions of the contract for outsourced services and how the Government will monitor the contractors after services are outsourced
我希望政府從善如流，盡快全面檢討政府的服務外判制度，取消"價低者得"的招標方式，並盡快推出更多促進中小企及年青專業人士參與的措施，令政府服務外判能夠有更好的成效。
I hope that the Government will readily accept good advice and expeditiously review the Governments service outsourcing system abolish the approach of lowest bid wins and expeditiously introduce more measures to facilitate participation by SMEs and young professionals so that service outsourcing by the Government can achieve better results
主席，政府自港英年代開始逐漸將不同的工作，包括清潔或保安服務外判，範疇不斷擴大，令外判形式無處不在。
President since the Hong Kong - British era the Government has gradually outsourced various types of work including cleaning and security services and continued expanding the scope of service outsourcing making outsourcing prevalent in all quarters of society
政府帶頭外判服務，令不少公私營機構也爭相仿效，致令外判風氣更為熾熱，而外判制度的漏弊亦因這制度的普及更見明顯。
With the Government taking the lead to outsource its services many public and private organizations have followed suit . This has exacerbated the trend of outsourcing and as the outsourcing system becomes popular its shortcomings have been brought into light all the more clearly
外判公司在"價低者得"作為主要原則下取得外判合約，不少外判公司為了節省開支，令前線基層員工無奈被迫成為外判制度下的受害者。他們工資低、福利少，而且可能隨時飯碗不保，朝不保夕。
When contractors are awarded contracts for outsourced service under the major principle of lowest bid wins many of them have to cut their expenditure and as a result frontline grass - roots works are helplessly made victims under the outsourcing system as they are paid only low wages with little benefit and worse still they may lose their job anytime and have to live from hand to mouth
面對上述種種情況，政府作為全港最大的僱主，應全面監管及優化現時的外判制度。
In view of these situations the Government being the biggest employer in Hong Kong should comprehensively supervise and improve the existing outsourcing system
我作為代表勞工界的立法會議員，當然認為政府有絕對責任矯正問題，保障前線"打工仔"的權益，改善社會民生。
As a Member of the Legislative Council representing the labour sector I certainly hold that the Government is absolutely duty - bound to rectify these problems in order to protect the rights and benefits of frontline wage earners and improve peoples living in society
主席，我會列舉兩個例子指出外判制度令服務質素參差，以及政府的問題所在。
President I will cite two examples to show that the outsourcing system has led to varying standards of quality of service and point out the problems of the Government
第一個例子是位於藍田的一個公共屋邨，該屋邨現時的管理服務由外判承辦商提供，並以"3-2-1"的原則來續約，即首次合約年期為3年，其後續約年期分別為2年及1年，我想這是房屋署通常的做法。
The first example is a public housing estate in Lam Tin . The management services of this estate are currently provided by a contractor whose contract is renewed on the 3 - 2 - 1 principle . It means that the term of the first contract is three years and the contract is subject to renewal for subsequent terms of two years and one year respectively
這是其中一個例子解釋為何我們要求政府繼續改善監管外判制度。
This is an example explaining why we call on the Government to continuously enhance its supervision of the outsourcing system
雖然這決定已透過有關渠道通知該屋邨的邨委會，但並沒有全面通知該屋邨的居民，居民十分擔心在工作外判後，有關的服務水平會否降低，因為大家也知道，在現時由房署管理的屋邨，假如居民認為服務差劣，也有渠道作出投訴和要求改善；但是，居民十分擔心萬一服務外判後，他們可如何投訴和尋求幫助呢？
Although the estate management committee was informed of this decision through the relevant channels the residents of the estate were not fully informed . The residents feel gravely concerned about a lower standard of services after outsourcing . As we all know in housing estates under the management of HD there are still channels for residents to lodge complaints about and demand improvement of services which they consider to be of a poor standard but they are gravely worried about how they can lodge complaints and seek assistance once the services are outsourced
然而，到目前這一刻，即使地區人士多次反對，外判計劃仍然會進行。
However even now despite opposition repeatedly voiced by the locals the outsourcing plan will continue to be taken forward
因此，對於政府面對居民和地區人士反對下仍然繼續推行外判計劃，我們感到十分遺憾。
Therefore we consider it utterly regrettable that the Government continues to proceed with the outsourcing plan in the face of opposition from the residents and members of the local community
主席，作為勞工界的議員，我們認為最有效和最直接的方法是政府縮窄外判的範疇和規模，並以公務員合約條款聘用僱員擔任有長期需要的工作崗位，例如清潔和保安的工作。
President we being Members from the labour sector consider that the most effective and direct way is for the Government to reduce the scope and scale of service outsourcing and recruit employees on civil service agreement terms to fill positions with long - term service needs such as cleaning and security services
根據房署的網頁，現時有六成公共屋邨的物業外判私人管理公司負責，包括清潔、保安、收租、小型保養和維修等。
According to the website of HD currently the management of 60 % of the public housing estates has been outsourced to private property service agents which perform management duties including cleaning security rent collection minor maintenance and repairs and so on
我們認為清潔服務或物業管理等恆常、有大量需求的服務應改由房署自行負責，這也是我們一直所建議的，但有人質疑會否增加公共財政的負擔。
We consider that regular routine services with great demand such as cleaning and property management services should be managed by HD itself and this is a proposal long advocated by us but some people have questioned whether this will add to the burden on public finance
因此，市民大眾對外判服務持負面態度。
Therefore the general public take a negative attitude towards service outsourcing
歸根究底，問題的癥結在於政府不但將管理的工作外判給承辦商，連責任也一併外判給承辦商，導致服務質素下降。
In the final analysis the crux of the problem lies in the Government outsourcing to contractors not only the management services but also its responsibilities altogether resulting in the deterioration of service quality
有人或會認為外判有好處，例如可以減低公共開支，但如果減低公共開支是透過剝削前線基層員工的薪酬而達致的，這是否市民大眾希望看見的呢？
Some people may consider that outsourcing has merits such as the effect of reducing public expenditure . But if the reduction of public expenditure is achieved through exploitation of frontline grass - roots workers of their wages is this what the general public wish to see?
又是否一個良好管治的政府應該做的呢？
Or is this what a government with good governance should do?
我認為政府的錢是要用的，並要用得其所才能符合良好管治的方向。
I think the government coffers have to be used but it is in line with the direction of good governance only when they are put to proper use
主席，我相信很多人也同意，今時今日社會上不同範疇的外判工作正大行其道，政府絕對稱得上是功不可沒。
President I believe many people will agree that the Government can absolutely be described as playing a vital role in the prevalence of outsourcing in different quarters of society nowadays
眾所周知，將公共服務外判的做法，是1990年代初港英政府實行公營部門改革後的產物。
As we all know the practice of outsourcing public services was a product of reforms carried out to the public sector by the British Hong Kong Government in the early 1990s
回歸後，我們的特區政府繼承了港英政府的管治思維，延續所謂的改革。
Following the reunification our Special Administrative Region Government has inherited the thinking of the British Hong Kong Government in governance by continuing these reforms so to speak
到了2000年，可說是公營部門改革的全盛期。
The reforms to the public sector can be described as in their heyday in 2000
當年，除了服務外判外，還有公營機構私營化，香港鐵路有限公司是一例；推行市場化，如要求房屋署和市區重建局自負盈虧；設立營運基金，如香港郵政；推出公私營協作安排，甚至是一筆過撥款等。
Back then apart from the outsourcing of services a number of initiatives were also introduced including privatizing the public sector with the MTR Corporation Limited being one such example; promoting marketization with the Housing Department and the Urban Renewal Authority being required to operate on a self - financing basis; setting up trading funds for instance Hongkong Post; making collaborative arrangements between the public and private sectors and even introducing the lump sum grant system of subvention
上述一系列措施紛紛出台，美其名是提升效率、改善服務及善用資源，使政府在提供公共服務上的壓力得以紓緩，但說得直接一點，便是政府要節省開支。
The purposes of rolling out the aforesaid series of initiatives one after another can be rhetorically described as enhancing efficiency improving services and putting resources to optimal use so that the pressure faced by the Government in providing public services can be alleviated . However to put it more direct it all boils down to cutting back on government expenditure
在各項措施中，我們認為影響最大的一定是服務外判制度。
Among the various initiatives we think that the service outsourcing system must be blamed for causing the greatest impact
因為政府改革公營部門時，聯同一些大企業帶頭將所謂非核心服務外判出市場，令坊間紛紛效法。
It was because in reforming the public sector the Government and some large enterprises took the lead in outsourcing the so - called non - core services to the market . This practice was followed by members of the community
多年來，政府當局也強調服務外判有助部門回應市民對公共服務日益增加的需求，有助節省成本。
Over the years the Administration has been emphasizing that service outsourcing responds to the publics rising demands for public services and help save costs
醫管局管理全港大大小小的公立醫院，為市民提供接近九成的住院服務，可以說深得市民和病人的信任，我們也應該要信任他們，但竟有病人在住院期間因穿着不潔病人服而受感染死亡，這是否對得起病人和悉心照料病人的醫護人員呢？
HA is responsible for managing public hospitals both big and small across the territory and provide nearly 90 % of hospital care for the public . HA can be said to be highly trusted by the public and patients and it should deserve our trust too . However some patients were infected and died when they were hospitalized due to wearing unclean clothing for patients
諷刺的是，醫管局當時表示每一至兩個月便會派人到洗衣場定時巡查，但竟一直沒有發現洗衣場的操作、設施、環境原來存在嚴重污染問題。
Is HA doing justice to patients as well as health care personnel who devote themselves to looking after patients? . Ironically HA indicated at that time that regular inspections would be carried out in laundry workshops once every one or two months but still it had failed to find out the serious contamination problems with the operation facilities and environment of the workshop
這個例子正好清楚說明，不是一句"將非核心服務外判"便可了事，非核心服務也可以是性命攸關的。
This example clearly demonstrates that HA cannot get away with the excuse of outsourcing non - core services as such services can be a matter of life and death
其實，我想指出，雖然服務外判是為了節省資源，但往往事與願違。
Actually I wish to point out that although service outsourcing is meant to reduce resources but things could go against HAs hope
由於當中出現很多同工不同酬，待遇不同等問題，特別是我們透過工會接觸到很多支援職系的前線員工，就是大家在病房見到的"姐姐"或"哥哥"，他們工作時十分生氣，很不開心。
Owing to the emergence of many problems caused by different pay for the same job different treatments and so on many supporting frontline staff members we have contacted through labour unions or the outsourced workers we find in the wards in particular are very angry or unhappy at work
便是因為外判制度。
Because of the outsourcing system
因此，我們認為推行外判制度不能真正節省資源，更不是所有服務均可使用外判制度。
For this reason we consider that the implementation of the outsourcing system cannot really save resources . What is more not all services can be delivered by the outsourcing system
從議員的發言中，我們聽到不少意見。
We have noticed various opinions from the speeches of Members
有關標準僱傭合約及保障政府服務合約承辦商所聘用的非技術工人的法定僱傭權益等建議，我會就當中的重點作出回應。
With regard to the suggestions such as those concerning the standard employment contract and the protection of statutory employment rights and benefits of non - skilled workers employed by contractors of government service contracts I will respond to the salient points of these suggestions
就監察政府服務合約承辦商履行標準僱傭合約方面，為保障承辦商屬下的員工，勞工處與各採購部門會繼續通力合作，採取多管齊下的策略，以監察承辦商遵守相關勞工法例的規定及履行標準僱傭合約的條款，並且懲處違規的承辦商。
Regarding the monitoring of the fulfilment of obligations under the standard employment contract by contractors of government service contracts in order to protect the employees of contractors the Labour Department LD and various procuring departments will continue to make concerted efforts and adopt a multi - pronged approach to monitoring contractors compliance with regulations under the relevant labour legislation as well as the fulfilment of obligations under the terms of the standard employment contract and will impose punishments on non - compliant contractors
各採購部門亦會同時實施不同的措施，包括查核工人的出勤和工資紀錄，並以抽樣形式面見工人，以確保承辦商遵守相關法例及標準僱傭合約的規定。
Meanwhile various procuring departments will also implement different measures including checking of attendance records and wage records of the workers as well as interviewing workers on a random basis to ensure that contractors have complied with the relevant legislation and requirements of the standard employment contract
任何政府服務合約承辦商如不採用標準僱傭合約、扭曲或未經採購部門的批准而改變僱傭合約的條款，以致其不利於僱員，如查明屬實，採購部門會根據服務合約，向違反合約條款的承辦商發出失責通知書。
If any contractor of government service contracts has failed to use the standard employment contract distorted or altered the terms of the employment contract without approval from the procuring department to the disadvantage of the employees and if the case is substantiated the procuring department will issue default notices to contractors for breaches of contractual terms in accordance with the service contracts
將來在評審承辦商提交的標書時，採購部門會將相關紀錄列入考慮因素。
The procuring department will take into account the relevant records for evaluation of tenders submitted by contractors in the future
如懷疑承辦商違反勞工法例，採購部門會通報勞工處以作出調查跟進。
If it is suspected that a contractor has contravened labour legislation the procuring department will notify LD for carrying out investigation and follow - up work
因此，若有僱員懷疑服務合約承辦商違反標準僱傭合約或勞工法例，應盡快向採購部門或勞工處作出投訴，相關部門一定會積極跟進。
Therefore if an employee suspects that the contractor of government service contracts has contravened the standard employment contract or labour legislation he should lodge a complaint with the procuring department or LD as soon as possible and the relevant departments will certainly proactively follow up on the case
主席，就議員提及政府應加強對政府服務合約承辦商的巡查，以及嚴懲違反《僱傭條例》、《僱員補償條例》或《職業安全及健康條例》等相關規定的承辦商，政府一直採取多項措施，以保障承辦商屬下非技術工人的僱傭權益。
President with regard to Members suggestions that the Government should step up inspection of contractors of government service contracts and impose severe punishments on contractors in breach of the relevant provisions under the Employment Ordinance the Employees Compensation Ordinance or the Occupational Safety and Health Ordinance the Government has all along implemented various measures to protect the employment rights and benefits of non - skilled workers employed by contractors
勞工處透過突擊巡查工作場所，以確保僱員的法定勞工權益受到保障。
LD conducts surprise inspections of workplaces to ensure that the statutory labour rights and benefits of employees are protected
勞工處亦對服務合約承辦商與其僱員進行宣傳推廣工作，並協助僱員了解他們在相關勞工法例下的權益和保障，以及提醒僱主須依時支付員工各項法定權益的重要性。
It also carries out publicity and promotion work among contractors of government service contracts and their employees to help the latter understand their rights and benefits as well as the protection under the relevant labour legislation and to remind employers of the importance of making timely payment of various statutory benefits to employees
此外，勞工處亦提供免費及便捷的諮詢及調停服務，積極協助僱傭雙方解決糾紛。
Moreover LD provides free and convenient consultation and conciliation services to proactively assist employers and employees in resolving disputes
若政府服務合約承辦商涉嫌違反《僱傭條例》等勞工法例，勞工處在搜集足夠證據後，必定會向違法的承辦商提出檢控。
If a contractor of government service contracts is suspected of violating labour legislation such as the Employment Ordinance LD will definitely institute prosecutions against the law - breaking contractor after gathering sufficient evidence
勞工處亦會將承辦商違規和被定罪的資料通知有關採購部門，以便有關部門採取適當的制裁行動，包括終止現有涉及違規的服務合約。
LD will also inform the relevant procuring departments of the information of non - compliance and convictions of contractors to facilitate their imposition of appropriate sanctions including termination of existing service contracts involving non - compliance
若承辦商因違反包括《僱傭條例》在內的指定罪行而被定罪，5年內將不得就政府服務合約再次投標。
If a contractor is convicted of committing specified offences including contravention of the Employment Ordinance he will be prohibited from submitting tenders for government service contracts for a period of five years
有關個別政府服務合約曾因合約屆滿而轉換承辦商，離任承辦商與屬下員工就調職安排及支付遣散費方面出現勞資糾紛，勞工處會按採購部門提供的資料，加強巡查服務合約快將完結的工作場地。
With regard to the labour disputes between the outgoing contractor and their employees over transfer of posting and severance payment which arose from a change of contractors upon expiry of individual government service contracts LD will refer to the information provided by the procuring departments and step up inspection of workplaces under service contracts that will soon expire
除了調查承辦商有否遵從《僱傭條例》及標準僱傭合約的規定外，勞工督察亦會向承辦商解釋《僱傭條例》下因解僱而須支付相關款項的責任，以及向員工講解他們在《僱傭條例》下的權益及保障，包括遣散費及調職安排等。
Apart from investigating whether contractors have complied with the Employment Ordinance and the requirements of the standard employment contract Labour Inspectors will also explain to contractors their responsibility of making the relevant payments for dismissal under the Employment Ordinance and explain to employees their rights and benefits as well as protection under the Employment Ordinance such as severance payment and transfer of posting
透過勞工處進行的巡查，僱傭雙方對自己在合約屆滿時的責任和保障可以有更深入的了解，有助減少不必要的勞資糾紛。
Both employers and employees can gain a deeper understanding of their obligations and protection upon expiry of contracts through the inspections conducted by LD which is helpful to minimizing unnecessary labour disputes
關於遣散費方面，根據《僱傭條例》，如僱員已按連續性合約受僱不少於24個月，並因裁員而遭解僱，一般可享有遣散費。
In respect of severance payment under the Employment Ordinance if an employee who has been employed under a continuous contract for not less than 24 months is dismissed by reason of redundancy he is in general entitled to severance payment
有議員提及引入政府承擔承辦商僱員權益的代償責任的問題。
Some Members have mentioned the idea that the Government should be vicariously liable for the rights and benefits of employees of contractors
代理主席，今次沙中線紅磡站剪短鋼筋的醜聞是近年香港建築界最嚴重的事件。
Deputy President the scandal of steel bars being cut short at Hung Hom Station of the Shatin - Central Link SCL is the most serious incident in our construction industry in recent years
大家記得，在回歸後，我們發生非常嚴重的短樁事件。
We all remember the very serious short - piling incident after the reunification
當時想在居屋的地盤內安裝升降機，但因樓房歪了未能成功安裝，最終紙包不住火，被揭發短樁事件。
At that time the authorities intended to install a lift inside a construction site of the Home Ownership Scheme flats but the lift could not be successfully installed due to a substandard foundation . At last the scandal could no longer be concealed and the short - piling incident was exposed
最終相關人士被刑事檢控，最後更要將不合規格的樓房拆除。
The persons concerned were criminally prosecuted and the substandard building was demolished
今次紅磡站以至整條沙中線的醜聞，其實炸彈連環爆。
The scandal at Hung Hom Station and even all stations along SCL is just like a series of bomb explosions
紅磡站、土瓜灣站、會展站都出現問題，究竟還有沒有其他車站亦有問題？
There are problems with Hung Hom Station To Kwa Wan Station and Exhibition Centre Station . Are there any problems with other stations?
或現在已經被揭發的車站會否有進一步的醜聞？
Will there be further scandals related to the above stations?
沒人能說清楚，但按照發展的趨勢，極不樂觀，我擔心現在被揭發的醜聞只是冰山一角。
Nobody can tell but the situation is extremely pessimistic based on the trend of development . I am worried that the scandal uncovered may only be the tip of the iceberg
代理主席，香港很多大型基建工程，包括沙中線，是非常重要的民生工程。
Deputy President there are many major infrastructure projects in Hong Kong including SCL which are related to peoples livelihood
崩潰的不單是這套制度，還有市民對港鐵公司的信心，甚至亦動搖了市民對政府的信心。
Not only has the system collapsed but also the public confidence in MTRCL . The public confidence in the Government has also shaken
投訴人有勇氣挺身而出提供資料，但港鐵公司說等一等，要找被投訴的人的代表律師坐在這裏，聽投訴人說話。
The complainant was bold enough to come forward to provide information but MTRCL invited the lawyers of the party being complaint against to sit in and listen to the complainants exposition
即是說，你不如收聲吧，你不要說了，你說話隨時被控告。
It means the complainant had better shut up for he might be sued at any time for what he said
有沒有這麼離譜的安排？
Is there a more outrageous arrangement?
這個安排的客觀效果正是阻嚇投訴人提供資料。
The objective effect of this arrangement is to deter the complainants from providing information
港鐵公司聽過幾間公司負責人及前線員工的"版本"後，便應將"版本"公開，但實情不是，詢問法律意見後，認為投訴人的"版本"不能公開，被投訴的公司的"版本"卻可以代為引述，這是甚麼道理？
After listening to the versions provided by the responsible persons of the few companies and front - line employees MTRCL should make public these versions . But that was not the case . After seeking legal advice it was decided that the version provided by the complainants could not be made public while the version provided by the company being complaint against could be quoted
有刑事調查進行中，離不開兩件事，一是正進行秘密調查，二是案件已"通天"，沒有秘密調查可言。
What were the reasons? . Two things can happen in the course of a criminal investigation either a secret investigation is being conducted or the case has been exposed and there is nothing to hide
代理主席，整件事刊登在報章頭版，傳媒的報道鋪天蓋地。
Deputy President the whole incident had been reported on the front page of newspapers and extensively reported by the media
那些要毀屍滅跡的人，已經做完了或正在做。要夾口供的，老早已夾好了。
People have destroyed or are in the process of destroying all traces of a crime and they have already aligned their statements
代理主席，至現時為止，港鐵公司及運輸及房屋局陳帆，仍然堅持單以所謂的負載測試，以量度鋼筋造假問題有多嚴重。
Deputy President so farm MTRCL and Secretary for Transport and Housing Frank CHAN have insisted on conducting the so - called loading test to measure the seriousness of the steel bar data falsification incident
已經有多位 工程界人士公開質疑有關做法根本無法準確理解鋼筋造假的嚴重程度，而負載測試只能夠看到測試時的負載能力。
Many members of the engineering sector have publicly queried that this practice simply could not accurately determine the seriousness of the falsification and the loading test could only reveal the loading capacity during the test
這些全都是統計學上的科學做法，以了解問題有多嚴重。
These scientific and statistical methods can help us understand the seriousness of the problem
知道問題的嚴重性之後，才可以客觀地找出方法補救。
When we are aware of the seriousness of the problem we can objectively look for remedial measures
代理主席，我認為此事與短樁事件沒有分別，是不能掩飾和隱瞞的。
Deputy President I think this incident is no different from the short - piling incident and it cannot be covered up or concealed
政府首先要做一個科學且有代表性的檢測，看看問題究竟有多嚴重。
First the Government must conduct a scientific and representative test to identify how serious the problem is
第二，要做全面的補救措施。
Second it must implement comprehensive remedial measures
第三，要追究責任。
Third it must affix responsibilities
做這些工作之前，首先要把港鐵公司工程總監黃唯銘革職，因為這個人已經不能信任。
Before carrying out these tasks Dr Philco WONG Projects Director of MTRCL must be dismissed because he can no longer be trusted
我希望港鐵公司與政府聽到我的呼籲，繼續讓這個人留下來只會妨礙調查。
I hope that MTRCL and the Government would take heed of my appeal because allowing this person to stay will hinder the investigation
黃唯銘是禮頓的靠山，一直包庇禮頓的惡行，我們絕對不可以讓他繼續隻手遮天。
Dr Philco WONG is the supporter of Leighton and he has always been sheltering the evil deeds of Leighton so we must not allow him to continue to be unfettered
我想對政府及工程界所有人說，如果月台塌下來，會禍延子孫後代，沒有人能背負這個責任。
I would like to tell the Government and all members of the engineering sector if the platform really collapsed the future generations would be affected and nobody could shoulder this responsibility
任何人嘗試淡化、掩飾、包庇這件事，也是香港的歷史罪人。
If anybody tries to downplay cover up or condone this incident he will also become a sinner in Hong Kongs history . Deputy President I support Dr CHENG Chung - tais motion to appoint a select committee under the Legislative Council Ordinance to inquire into the incident
代理主席，我支持鄭松泰議員提出根據《立法會條例》成立專責委員會調查此事，與由法官領導的獨立調查委員會並 行，希望可以找出事件的真相，以及在政治問責上，立法會有監督政府的責任，希望各同事以立法會的職責為本，支持鄭松泰議員的議案。
The select committee can work in parallel with the judge - led Commission of Inquiry to find out the truth of the incident . In respect of political accountability the Legislative Council is duty - bound to monitor the Government . I hope that Honourable colleagues will perform their duties as Legislative Council Members and support Dr CHENG Chung - tais motion
代理主席，我最後想指出一點，香港近年各方面的崩壞越來越嚴重，我們看到有權的濫權，無權的也濫權，種種惡行，我們理論上需要透過制度制衡，但我們的制度本身亦有極大缺憾。
Deputy President lastly I would like to point out that various aspects of Hong Kong have deteriorated in recent years . We have seen the abuse of power by those having powers and not having powers as well as various evil deeds . Theoretically we need to exercise checks and balances under a system but the system itself has a lot of shortcomings