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事實上，不僅是《基本法》第十八條，我們認為《條例草案》更違反了《基本法》其他條文。
In fact apart from Article 18 we think that the Bill does not comply with other provisions of the Basic Law . The President of the Legislative Council has ruled that the Bill does not contravene the Basic Law
雖然立法會主席作出裁決，認為《條例草案》沒有違反《基本法》，全國人民代表大會常務委員會也作出裁決，認為沒有違反中國憲法、沒有違反《基本法》，全部沒有違反，所以叫我們放心通過。
The Standing Committee of the National Peoples Congress NPCSC also considers that the Bill does not contravene the Basic Law and opines that none of the provisions in the Bill contravenes the Basic Law and that Members can rest assured and pass the Bill
但是，事實上，香港不少法律界人士，今天也有不少在席議員，怎樣看也看不到《條例草案》如何能夠符合《基本法》。
But in fact some members of the legal profession in Hong Kong including those who are present here fail to see in whatever way how the Bill complies with the Basic Law
我們說過很多次，我們就任立法會議員宣誓效忠時，承諾要支持和擁護《基本法》，而這個議會不應通過一些違反《基本法》的法律。
As we said many times when we took the oath on becoming Members of the Legislative Council we pledged to support and uphold the Basic Law; and the Legislative Council should not pass a law which contravenes the Basic Law
便是特區政府可能認為，如果北京表示《條例草案》不違法，如果人大常委會作為國家憲政機構中最高的權力機關也表示可以，即是可以。
The implication is that the Government possibly thinks that if Beijing indicates that the Bill does not contravene the law and if NPCSC being the highest constitutional authority of China indicates that something can be done then it can be done
產生的危險是，香港的立法機關變成凡事需待人大常委會作出決定後，才審議法案的機關。
This will produce the risk that the legislature of Hong Kong will only scrutinize a bill after a decision has been made by NPCSC
如果你問我，是否不承認人大常委會是中國最高的國家權力機關，我也不得不承認其存在，而現在的確是這樣。
If you ask me whether I admit that NPCSC is the highest authority of China I cannot deny this fact and that is the situation at present
儘管《基本法》在1990年頒布時沒有考慮到高鐵會在香港發展，但是，你如何能理解現在可以把香港的一部分，即高鐵西九龍站地底第二、三、四層劃出？
When the Basic Law was promulgated in 1990 it did not anticipate that XRL would be developed in Hong Kong; but why is it possible that part of Hong Kong ie . the second third and fourth basement levels of the West Kowloon Station of XRL can be designated?
不管你稱之為"割地"、勾地或甚麼，總之，我們在那裏會失去司法管轄權，在那裏會實施大陸的法律。
Whatever one calls it cession of land or putting the area on the land list Hong Kong will lose its jurisdiction of the area and Chinese law will apply there
原來特區政府和中央政府討論《合作安排》時，說劃出便劃出，我們沒有權阻止政府這樣做。
In fact the decision was made during the discussion on the Co - operation Arrangement between the HKSAR Government and the Central Government and we have no power to stop the Government from doing so
所以，究竟何謂"一國兩制"？
Thus what actually is the meaning of one country two systems?
有人指我們說"劃出"，便是有分離主義的意識，又在冤枉我們。
Some people comment that in saying designation we are advocating separatism; they are falsely accusing us again
民主派反對"港獨"，但問題是，市民的確有憂慮。
The Democratic Party opposes Hong Kong independence but the problem is that the public are really worried
就"一國兩制"而言，我們很擔心政府打開了缺口。
In relation to one country two systems we are very worried that the Governments action will open a gap
原來《基本法》的安排無法保障我們，原來有一塊地可以勾走，有一塊地並非實施香港的法律。
Surprisingly the arrangements in the Basic Law cannot protect us against it; for a piece of land will be taken away from us and on that piece of land the laws of Hong Kong will not be applicable
何謂"一國兩制"？
What does one country two systems mean?
這個制度已經失去堅實的保障。
This system has lost its strong protection
我們在法案委員會提出的問題，一直得不到滿意的答案，因為這個原因，令這項《條例草案》無法繼續進行辯論......
We had raised questions at meetings of the Bills Committee but we did not get any satisfactory answers . That is why we cannot continue to debate on the Bill
我不知道她有否看過我發給議員的信件，我在信中表明，立法會主席的職權不包括裁定政府提交的法案有否違反《基本法》。
I do not know whether Dr WONG has read the letter which I issued to Members . In the letter I clearly say that the functions and powers of the President of the Legislative Council do not include ruling whether a bill introduced by the Government contravenes the Basic Law
代理主席，我覺得陳帆局長非常厲害，他向你揮一揮手便代表不作發言。
Deputy President I am really impressed by Secretary Frank CHAN who just waved his hand to tell you that he was not going to speak
我希望除了以畫面紀錄外，還會以文字紀錄這一幕。
I do hope that in addition to a video record there will be a written record for this scene
不過，在這刻的總結發言中，我也要感激建制派及民主派議員就我這項中止待續議案發言。
Despite that in this concluding speech I must thank Members of both the pro - establishment and pro - democracy camps for speaking on my adjournment motion
雖然我未必同意建制派議員的意見，但當我們今天仍能在議會這樣自由辯論......雖然今次無理地設有時限，但最少我們今天仍可在此辯論《廣深港高鐵條例草案》。
Although I may not share the views of the pro - establishment Members when we can still debate freely in the Council today it is unreasonable for this debate to have a time limit but at the very least we are allowed to have a debate on the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link Co - location Bill the Bill today
《條例草案》通過後，便沒有甚麼機會可以再作討論， 所以議員能在今天及昨天某個時段作出討論，並且在香港立法會的歷史紀錄中留下這一頁，實在非常重要。
After the passage of the Bill I do not think there will be any opportunity for us to have further discussion and it is therefore very important for Members to have a discussion on this issue today and at some time yesterday so as to leave a page in the historical record of the Legislative Council of Hong Kong
議會過去有很多歷史，我們作為議員，將來也會成為歷史的一部分。
This Council has a long history; we being Members will also become part of history in the future
我手上其實有後期可予公開的大律師公會意見。
In fact I have at hand the Bar Associations advice which could subsequently be disclosed
我並非說大律師公會特別重要，但它就憲法和法律基礎提供的意見，我相信是其中一項需要留意和尊重的意見。
I am not saying that the Bar Association is particularly important but I believe its advice on constitutional issues and legal basis should warrant attention and respect
究竟對我們的下一代或再下一代影響有多深遠，我們也不知道。
Meanwhile we have no idea about how profound the impact will be to our next generation or the generation thereafter
主席，2014年至今4年，時間說長不長，但我也算是"跟車最貼"的其中一人。
President it has been four years since 2014 . The period cannot be considered very long but I should be one of those who have been tailgating the matter most closely
我自2014年起擔任鐵路事宜小組委員會主席，自此每當高鐵有何風吹草動，我也會第一時間跟進。
I have been chairing the Subcommittee on Matters Relating to Railways since 2014 . Since then I would follow up any problem with the Express Rail Link XRL at the earliest time possible
除了高鐵工程外，"一地兩檢"方案亦引起了社會的廣泛討論。
In addition to the XRL works the co - location arrangement has also induced extensive discussion in society
我希望大家明白，由始至終我只秉持一個原則，就是把事情做好。
I hope everyone will understand that I have always upheld one principle only and that is getting the job done
在2014年，我以港區人大代表身份向國務院港澳事務辦公室建議，香港特區政府可向中央提出要求，在西九高鐵站設立一個境內的內地口岸區。
In 2014 I proposed to the Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office of the State Council in my capacity as a Hong Kong Deputy to the National Peoples Congress NPC that the Hong Kong SAR Government might request the Central Authorities to set up a Mainland Port Area MPA at WKS
當時我是首個提出這項建議的人。
I was the first person to make this proposal then
內地口岸區有特定的範圍和用途，執行內地法律，以期落實"一地兩檢"。
MPA maintains a specific area and serves specific purposes . Mainland laws are applied in MPA in order to implement the co - location arrangement
因為《基本法》並無提及任何有關成立內地口岸區的事宜，所以，成立內地口岸區本身有否違反《基本法》，就成為了法律上的爭拗。
As the establishment of MPA is not mentioned in the Basic Law there have been controversies over whether the establishment of MPA is in breach of the Basic Law
我曾透過不同渠道向市民解釋高鐵的重要性和"一地兩檢"的法理依據。
I have explained to the public the importance and legal basis of the co - location arrangement through various channels
在文明的社會，爭議是要靠司法手段解決，而非靠政客互罵，有人認為有違法，有人認為無違法。
In a civilized society disputes must be resolved by judicial recourse instead of bickering between politicians who may or may not think it is lawful
司長首次接受電台訪問時，明明說過香港法院有權審理，但當我在法案委員會追問司長同一個簡單的問題時，其答覆卻不知為何變得相當複雜，而小組委員會主席又指我的問題不可提出，真的莫名其妙。
The Secretary clearly stated that Hong Kong courts would have jurisdiction over the matter when first interviewed by the radio . But when I asked the Secretary the same simple question in the Bills Committee his reply became quite complicated and I was told by the Chairman that my question was not allowed which really beat me
所以，我希望司長今天發言時重申他在電台的說話，即本地法院將有權審理。
Therefore I hope the Secretary will reiterate today the remarks he made on the radio and that is local courts will have jurisdiction over the matter
我認為特區政府和中央政府除了解釋，亦有需要研究如何改善市民的觀感和信心。我明白內地口岸區......
Apart from giving explanations I think it is also necessary for the SAR Government and the Central Government to enhance public perception and confidence
我明白在內地口岸區內實施整套內地法律有其必要性，可防止通緝重犯南下時利用法律空隙在內地口岸區提出酷刑聲請，以逃避國家的法律制裁。
I understand that it is necessary to implement the whole set of Mainland laws in MPA so as to prevent fugitives from evading sanctions by going southward to take advantage of the loophole in law and make a torture claim in MPA
有人提出內地人員可能會在內地口岸區以外的地方執法，但特區政府已向法案委員會確認，內地人員絕對不會離開禁區，亦不會在香港過夜。
Some were worried that Mainland personnel would enforce laws outside MPA . However the Government has confirmed to the Bills Committee that Mainland personnel will definitely not leave the restricted area and will not stay in Hong Kong overnight
因此，我接觸到的大部分市民的憂慮已經大減，現時只須處理市民觀感和資訊便利的問題。
Hence for the majority of the people with whom I have come into contact their worries have been significantly relieved . The only task left is public perception and access to information
大部分市民真正擔心的是在內地口岸區言論、表達和收發資訊的自由度及便利性會否被嚴重削弱。
Most people are really worried about whether their freedom and convenience of speech expression and receiving and disseminating information will be greatly reduced in MPA
我再次秉持"為了把事情做好"的原則，去信人大常委會，建議特區政府和國家相關部門在西九龍站的內地口岸區及所有高鐵列車車廂內安裝免費無線上網設施。
Once again under the principle of getting the job done I have written to the Standing Committee of NPC NPCSC suggesting the Government and relevant Mainland authorities to install free Wi - Fi facilities in MPA at WKS and on all XRL trains
同時，當高鐵列車駛至深圳河以南後，免費無線上網不會受任何資訊過濾的影響，讓香港市民可以在香港特區內享受資訊流通。
Also the access to information via free Wi - Fi on XRL trains will not be filtered in areas south of the Sham Chun River so that Hong Kong people can enjoy free flow of information in the Hong Kong SAR
而在內地口岸區實施全套內地法律，固然亦有其合理性和必要性，希望可以同時平衡香港市民的觀感。
It is reasonable and necessary to implement the whole set of Mainland laws in MPA but I hope a balance can be struck between that and the perception of Hong Kong people at the same time
最近，社會開始關注高鐵在內地購票的手續費問題。
There has been increasing concern about the handling fee for XRL ticketing in the Mainland
有人說我一方面支持"一地兩檢"，另一方面卻批評手續費。
Some people said I support the co - location arrangement on the one hand while criticizing the handling fee on the other
其實，我也是想把事情做好。
In fact I only want to get the job done
明顯地，想解決手續費問題，便要與中鐵談判，商討授權。
To solve the issue of handling fee evidently we must negotiate with the China Railway for authorization
我能否交到功課是未知之數，但最低限度有內地人士致電問我心目中的月票優惠水平。
Whether I can achieve some result is still unknown but at least someone from the Mainland had rung me up to ask about the fare concession rate I had in mind
我希望將來有機會與大家分享好消息，包括月票、授權及免購票手續費等。
I hope I will have good news to share in the future on the monthly ticket authorization and waiver of ticketing handling fee
因此，我想清楚指出，我肯定支持《條例草案》。
Therefore I would like to point out clearly that I most certainly support the Bill
主席，我發言反對《廣深港高鐵條例草案》二讀，但我必須聲明我並不反對"一地兩檢"。
President I rise to speak against the Second Reading of the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link Co - location Bill but I must make it clear that I do not oppose the co - location arrangement
因為有《基本法》。
Because there is the Basic Law
第十八條寫得很清楚：內地的全國性法律不能夠在香港實施，就是如此簡單。
Article 18 explicitly provides that national laws of the Mainland shall not be applied in Hong Kong and it is just this simple
這是對香港市民的一個保障。
It is a safeguard for Hong Kong citizens
這要追溯至當年香港回歸時，因為兩地的制度截然不同，兩地的法治、司法制度和整個社會秩序也不同，如何保障香港可繼續我們一般正常、過往的生活方式，無論是法治、自由或社會秩序，全部也依循我們的系統？甚至是資本主義相對於社會主義，我們也不會將內地的一套加諸香港人身上，這便是《基本法》最核心之處。
This can be traced back to the reunification of Hong Kong . As the systems of the two places were completely different and given the difference between the two places in terms of the rule of law the judicial system and even the order of society as a whole how could protection be accorded to Hong Kong so that we could continue our normal usual way of living so that our systems would be followed in all aspects whether in respect of the rule of law freedoms or social order and despite the contrast between capitalism and socialism the ideology of the Mainland would not be imposed on Hongkongers?
這項法例經過多年商議，最後中央政府自己願意確立這個基本原則，視為香港的"小憲法"。
This is the thrust of the Basic Law . After many years of deliberations and with the Central Government eventually being willing to establish this basic principle this Law has been regarded as the mini constitution of Hong Kong
這項法律的地位是全國性法律，對香港而言，絕對等同具憲法地位。
This Law has the status of national law and insofar as Hong Kong is concerned its status is absolutely equivalent to that of a constitution
在這個基礎上，香港人獲得基本的承諾，有所保障。
It is on this basis that Hong Kong people are given a basic promise and protection
香港人不會受到威脅，不用擔心會否突然被公安人員押到不知哪裏或突然要在電視上公開懺悔，承認自己犯下甚麼罪行。香港人不用擔心整個生活秩序會突然間受另一套方式主宰。
This provision tells Hongkongers and the international community that when the system of Hong Kong is different from that of the Mainland Hong Kong can continuously uphold its own system that Hongkongers will not be threatened and need not worry about suddenly being taken by public security officers to an unknown place or suddenly having to make an open confession on television and admit to the committal of certain crimes and that Hongkongers need not worry about the entire order of their living suddenly being dictated by another system
這是最根本的保障，也是最基本的承諾。
This is the most basic protection and the most basic promise
所以，當高鐵在10多年前、甚至20多年前開始醞釀和提出時，大家提出的第一件事，便是"一地兩檢"這個概念難以在香港境內實施。
So when the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link XRL was brewing and mooted more than a decade or even two decades or so ago the first point that we raised was that it would be difficult for the idea of co - location clearance to be implemented within the bounds of Hong Kong
當年袁國強說"三步走"的第一步是合作安排，第二步是由全國人民代表大會常務委員會批准，在批准後，根據政府的文件，政務司司長、運輸及房屋局局長和保安局局長表示人大常委會會同時根據《基本法》第二十條授權香港特區落實"一地兩檢"的相關事宜。
Rimsky YUEN said back then that the first step of the Three - step Process was the Co - operation Arrangement the second step was the approval of the Standing Committee of the National Peoples Congress NPCSC and after this approval had been given according to the Governments paper the Chief Secretary for Administration the Secretary for Transport and Housing and the Secretary for Security said that NPCSC would grant HKSAR the power to implement matters in relation to the co - location arrangement in accordance with Article 20 of the Basic Law
它又說實施的機構是內地機構。
It also said that the Mainland authorities would be responsible for enforcement
哪裏說內地機構是無須遵守《基本法》的？
Where is it stated that the Mainland authorities need not abide by the Basic Law?
怎樣保障香港市民？
How does it protect the Hong Kong citizens?
主席，你迫我們在這裏通過一項違憲的法律，這是否太過分了？
President are you not going too far in forcing us to pass a Bill here that contravenes the Constitution?
我何曾反對過方便市民？
Have I ever raised objection to providing convenience to the people?
我怎會反對我們興建一些令兩地交通更暢旺的基建？
How will I oppose the development of infrastructure to facilitate transport accessibility between the two places?
我現在不是要爭拗這些，而是說因為要訂立這項法例，連我們基本的規矩也完全破壞，硬要我們這個立法機關訂立一項違反《基本法》的法律，這是絕不能容忍的。
I do not intend to argue over all this and what I wish to say is that the Government in order to enact this Bill has broken all the basic rules while forcing us in the legislature to pass a Bill that contravenes the Basic Law and this is absolutely intolerable
我不知道香港人會否後悔，不過，我一定不會是造成問題的一部分。
I do not know if Hongkongers will regret it but definitely I can be spared the blame for this problem
這件事很清楚，大家也懂得看《基本法》，無論政府如何"戾橫折曲"地說符合《基本法》，其實也無法把道理說得通。
This issue is very clear . We all understand the articles of the Basic Law . No matter how the Government has distorted the truth by saying that the Bill is compliant with the Basic Law actually its arguments can never hold water
政府說那裏仍然是香港，雖然那裏被視為不是香港，於是我們仍然有很多承擔，須繼續遵守國際公約但我不知我們可以怎樣遵守《公民權利和政治權利國際公約》、國際人權公約等各項公約。
According to the Government that area is still within Hong Kong although it is considered not to be Hong Kong and therefore we still have a lot of commitment and it is necessary to continuously abide by the international covenants―but I have no idea how we can abide by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights international human rights covenants and so on
我不知道在內地法律和內地執法人員面前，我們可以怎樣遵守這些公約。
I do not know how we can abide by these covenants under Mainland laws and when we face law enforcement officers from the Mainland
當中出現很多我們說須保留的地方，包括僱傭衝突和僱傭權益等問題，我不知道我們可以怎樣保留這些事項，屆時由誰控制和決定甚麼事項須保留和無須保留？
For the many reserved matters that will arise such as employment - related conflicts or labour rights and interests I do not know how there can be reservations about these matters . Who will have control and the say on what matters are reserved matters and what are not? . This freak is created by us
我擔心香港今天付出的並非簡單的所謂爭拗，也不是小風波，特區政府今天付出的是它的基本原則；而中央政府付出的是它對香港人的承諾；香港人付出的是大家的基本價值和道德。
I am worried that the price that Hong Kong is paying today is not simply arguments or contentions so to speak; nor is it a minor turmoil . The price that the SAR Government is paying today is its basic principles whereas the price that the Central Government is paying is its promises to Hongkongers and the price that Hongkongers are paying is our basic values and ethics
代理主席，我發言反對恢復二讀《廣深港高鐵條例草案》。
Deputy President I rise to speak against the resumed Second Reading of the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link Co - location Bill the Bill
我早前的發言亦指出了問題不是關乎我們會否乘坐高鐵或是否支持高鐵，問題是關乎這條高鐵在香港西九龍站"一地兩檢"的安排，造成我們在憲法的問題上必須面對衝擊和挑戰。
In the speech delivered earlier on by me I pointed out that the issue is not about whether or not we will travel by or support the Express Rail Link XRL or not the issue is about the impacts and challenges to the constitution that we must face as a result of the co - location arrangement for XRL to be introduced at the West Kowloon Station WKS in Hong Kong
我們在法案委員會的審議過程中，也曾召開公聽會，聽過很多意見。
In the course of the scrutiny carried out by the Bills Committee public hearings were conducted and we listened to a lot of views
大律師公會及香港律師會亦有表達他們的專業意見。
The Hong Kong Bar Association HKBA and The Law Society of Hong Kong also expressed their professional opinions
最大的問題是，在法案委員會審議的過程當中，政府，包括律政司司長，一直也沒有好好地回答大律師公會和很多議員提出的問題。
The biggest problem is that in the process of scrutiny by the Bills Committee the Government including the Secretary for Justice have all along failed to answer the questions raised by HKBA and many Members properly
民主黨反對恢復二讀，原因是我們仍然很關心有關《基本法》的問題。
The Democratic Party opposes the resumed Second Reading on the ground that we still feel concerned about the issues related to the Basic Law
如果我們通過《條例草案》而我亦說過很多遍了我認為會違反《基本法》內最少3項條文。
If we pass the Bill―and I have said this many times―I believe we will violate at least three provisions of the Basic Law
首先，是違反了《基本法》第十八條。
Firstly Article 18 of the Basic Law will be violated
《基本法》第十八條指出全國性的法律不會在香港實施。
Article 18 of the Basic Law points out that national laws shall not be applied in Hong Kong
這項條文的訂立其實很重要，是香港的"一國兩制"能否繼續維持的一個很重要的法律壁壘。
The formulation of this provision is actually very important as it is a legal bulwark crucial to the maintenance of one country two systems in Hong Kong
意思是，如果全國性的法律要在香港實施，應該實施只關乎國防外交、並載列於附件三的條文內的法律。
What this means is that if national laws are to be applied in Hong Kong only those related to defence and foreign affairs as set out in the provisions of Annex III should be applied
但是，如果現時我們通過《條例草案》，我們會把西九龍高鐵總站地下的第二層、第三層、第四層，甚至是列車上及扶手電梯等範圍均列為內地口岸區。
However if we pass the Bill now B2 B3 and B4 levels under the ground floor of the XRL West Kowloon Terminus and even such areas as train compartments and escalators will be designated as the Mainland Port Area MPA
在地理位置上明顯地這裏是香港、在"一國兩制"下香港特別行政區的範圍，但原來是可以透過《條例草案》勾走西九龍總站地下的這一部分，然後改名為內地口岸區，不再是香港的一部分了，或者可說是香港裏的內地口岸。
In terms of geographical location they are obviously located within Hong Kong or the bounds of the SAR under one country two systems but it turns out that this part under the ground of the West Kowloon Terminus can be sliced off by dint of the Bill then has its name changed to MPA and it is no longer a part of Hong Kong or it can be called MPA within Hong Kong
在法例上，我認為這是一種非常危險的做法，我們要向小朋友或學生解釋這個情況也有困難。
In terms of law I think this is a very dangerous move and there is difficulty even in explaining this situation to children or students
在香港，我們過往以羅湖的深圳河為界線，深圳河以南為香港，但原來一直南下到了西九龍站，除了地面及總站的第一層外，下面的部分便不叫做香港了。
In Hong Kong in the past the Shenzhen River at Lo Wu was used as the boundary and the area south of Shenzhen River belongs to Hong Kong . However it turns out that if we go south all the way to WKS apart from the ground floor and the first floor of the terminus the parts underneath are no longer called Hong Kong
如果現時通過《條例草案》，會製造一個新的地帶，這便是無視《基本法》第十八條、第十九條及第二十二條。
If the Bill is passed a new area will be created in disregard to Articles 18 19 and 22 of the Basic Law
在"一國兩制"的分隔和很明顯的法律區隔下，我們是依靠《基本法》來保障香港特區的。
The demarcation of one country two systems and the clear demarcation in terms of law are dependent on the protection provided by the Basic Law to the SAR
"一國兩制"是鄧小平確立的國家政策，亦是《基本法》的精神所在。
One country two systems is the national policy established by DENG Xiaoping and also the spirit of the Basic Law
我們經常聽到建制派或中央的官員說，我們要尊重《基本法》、擁護特區的《基本法》。
We often hear the pro - establishment camp or officials of the Central Authorities say that we have to respect the Basic Law or uphold the Basic Law of the SAR
這點民主黨是完全認同的，我們也絕對擁護真正的"一國兩制"，但《條例草案》很明顯地在一個很清晰的法律區隔、兩制的區隔上打開了後門，所以今次這項《條例草案》在社會上引起很多爭議。
The Democratic Party totally agrees with this point and we also absolutely support genuine one country two systems but it is evident that the Bill has created a backdoor in a very clear legal demarcation or the demarcation between the two systems . For this reason the Bill has aroused a great controversy in society
問題討論的層次不是我們是否可以早日乘坐高鐵到內地旅遊，而是憲政的層次必須嚴肅處理。
The point lies not in whether or not we can take the XRL at an early date when travelling to the Mainland rather the constitutional dimension has to be dealt with seriously
代理主席，我相信大家也很明白《基本法》還有第十一條，這是在《基本法》第一章的總則內，該條第二款是這樣寫的："香港特別行政區立法機關制定的任何法律"我們這個立法機關所通過的任何法律，包括我們現正進行二讀辯論的《條例草案》，根據《基本法》 第十一條"均不得同本法相抵觸。
Deputy President I believe Members are also well aware of the existence of Article 11 of the Basic Law . It comes under the General Principles in Chapter I of the Basic Law . The second paragraph of the Article reads No law enacted by the legislature of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region―according to Article 11 of the Basic Law any law passed by this legislature including the Bill on which Second Reading debate is now being conducted―shall contravene this Law
"現在顯然地抵觸了第十八條、第十九條及第二十二條。
Now Articles 18 19 and 22 are obviously being contravened
雖然律政司司長曾在法案委員會會議席上嘗試解答，認為其實沒有抵觸，因為你要購票才能進入高鐵站的內地口岸區，並沒有人強迫你進入，如果你不進入，便不會影響你，只要有某些法例不應用於全港，而只應用於部分地區及部分人，那也可以容許大陸執法人員在該地區內對進入裏面的人實施內地法律。
Although the Secretary for Justice attempted to give us an explanation at a meeting of the Bills Committee saying that she believed there was actually no contravention because one had to buy a ticket to enter MPA in the XRL station that no one would force you to enter and if you do not you would not be affected that so long as some laws are not applied to the whole territory but are applied only to a certain area and certain people and in that case Mainland law enforcement officers could still be allowed to enforce Mainland laws on people who enter the area such an explanation really leaves us feeling dizzy
我們甚麼時候會容許在香港劃定某些地區，對走入該地區的人不執行香港的法律，而是執行大陸法律的呢？
When have we ever permitted the designation of an area in Hong Kong where the laws of Hong Kong will not be applied to people who have entered the area and Mainland laws are applied instead?
剛才何君堯議員早前也有其他議員，例如陸頌雄議員十分激動地說："你們不喜歡的話，在《條例草案》通過後，可趕快提出司法覆核"。
Just now Dr Junius HO―and earlier on other Members too such as Mr LUK Chung - hung―said agitatedly If you do not like this after the passage of the Bill you can make haste and seek a judicial review