Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
"盡了力"是用盡氣力和方法，但"合理的努力"可以是未盡全力。
盡了力 means that a person has done something to the best of this ability but 合理的努力 means that he may not have done his best
我想提出兩點，第一，為何不斷重複"合理"一詞。
I would like to make two points First how come the term 合理 has been used repeatedly?
"合理努力"這語句沒有問題，"經合理努力後"意指已經盡了合理努力，但該條文廢除這語句，代以"即使作出合理努力"。
There is nothing wrong with the expression 合理努力 . The expression 經合理努力後 means that reasonable diligence has been exercised . However this clause repeals the expression and substitutes it with 即使作出合理努力
我暫時沒有其他意見，多謝主席。
I have no other comments for the time being . Thank you Chairman
《2019年成文法條例草案》已進入三讀階段，而我在二讀辯論時已表明我的立場。
We are now in the Third Reading debate of the Statute Law Bill 2019 the Bill and I have already expressed my stance clearly in the Second Reading debate
我希望不論主席閣下或其他議員，以及正在收看會議直播的公眾朋友，都給予少許耐性聽聽我的觀點。
I hope the President other Members and people watching the live broadcast will listen to my views with some patience
大部分難民可能來自巴基斯坦、越南、印度等地。
Most of the refugees in Hong Kong are from places such as Pakistan Vietnam or India
對於人權和捍衞人權的原則，我完全同意；但在捍衞人權原則的同時，我也要考慮其他普世價值觀我在第三部分會更清晰地說明即正義的問題。
While I totally agree with the principle of defending human rights I also have to in addition to human rights take into account other universal values including justice . I will elaborate on this point in the third part of my speech
律政司須解答，這是法律技術層面的考慮，但實際上會否發生？
The Department of Justice should tell us whether this technical legal problem will actually happen
如果發生後應如何處理？
If it happens how will it be handled?
對於難民或相關團體，有關當局均應解釋清楚。
The Administration should give a clear account to the refugees and concern groups
如果以書面作出判決，會否對當事人不公平？
Will the disposal on paper be unfair to the applicant?
如果我站在泛民議員的立場，以人權作為最高價值的原則，法庭的公開和透明度會受到損害。
If I consider this issue from the perspective of the pan - democratic Members taking human rights as the foremost principle I would say that the openness and transparency of the court will be compromised
最簡單的事例是，第一，他們會面對一些不必要的負面印象或標籤......
The most obvious example is firstly the undue negative impression or label attached to them
鄭松泰議員，我再次提醒你，現在是三讀辯論，議員應集中討論是否支持三讀《條例草案》，而不應再花時間重提之前已曾提出的論點。
Dr CHENG Chung - tai I remind you once again that this is the Third Reading debate . Members should focus their discussion on whether they support the Third Reading of the Bill rather than wasting time on repeating previous arguments
我正想提出我支持三讀的理由，因為從人權角度作考慮的同時，也要考慮有關安排究竟是否合乎正義。
I was about to explain why I support the Third Reading . To me human right is not the sole consideration . We should also consider if the arrangement is just or not
考慮的具體條件很簡單，就是現有的政策會否令本地族群的應有生活方式受到損害；若是，應該如何作彌補。
The specific factors for consideration are simple Will the existing policy adversely affect the way of life of local minorities? . If it will what kind of compensation will be offered?
第一，他們會被貼上不必要的負面標籤；第二，基於語言上的問題，而我們的社會並沒有處理過難民在港生活時遇到的問題，因此有本地少數族裔便向我反映，說他們的子女由於語言上的溝通問題而會被人欺騙。
First an undue negative label is attached to them . Second owing to the language barrier our community especially the Home Affairs Bureau has failed to help the refugees in Hong Kong solve their problems in daily life . Some local ethnic minorities have told me that language and communication problems have made their children particularly daughters fall prey to deception
這些也是真實發生的問題。
These are true stories
主席，我指的並非建制派說的甚麼"假難民"。
President I am not talking about bogus refugees in the words of the pro - establishment camp
在議會上，理應是由我們透過民選機制......
Here in the Council we as elected Members should have
我們利用議會的平台，希望政府明白，如果寄望法律，即現時進行三讀的法案，便能夠處理難民問題，那但不好意思，我能好說律政司司長、民政事務局局長及政務司司長失職，原因是難民的問題與他們息息相關，法律的機制卻無法處理。
We are using the platform of this Council to tell the Government that it is wrong to think that the refugee issue can be addressed by legislation ie . the Bill pending its Third Reading . This issue is closely related to the purview of the Secretary for Justice the Secretary for Home Affairs and the Chief Secretary for Administration I would therefore say that they have failed to do their job
現時香港社會面對接近上萬宗難民聲請，其實已經成為政治問題。
This is not an issue to be tackled by law . Right now the some 10 000 refugee claims in Hong Kong have turned into a political problem
這件事情主席，你不要再打斷我了，我知道要返回議題的如果有同事曾經理解半年前為何廣州突然要把黑人全部趕走，當然......
Regarding this issue―President I know I have to return to the subject but please do not interrupt me―if any of our colleagues have looked into why Guangzhou expulsed all black people six months ago they will certainly
鄭松泰議員，請你停止發言。
Dr CHENG Chung - tai please stop speaking
主席，我動議若稍後就《2019年成文法條例草案》的條文或其修正案進行點名表決，表決須在鐘聲響起1分鐘後進行。
Chairman I move that in the event of further divisions being claimed in respect of any provisions of or any amendments to the Statute Law Bill 2019 this committee of the whole Council do proceed to each of such divisions immediately after the division bell has been rung for one minute
根據第614章第3a和b條，律政司司長只認可兩個網站。
According to sections 3a and b of Cap . 614 only two websites have been approved by the Secretary for Justice
我希望她將來再作修訂時，例如再次提出雜項修訂，可以在第614章加入 附表，甚至在條文中加入有關的網站，因為大家現時都是使用電子版本的。
I hope that she will add a schedule to Cap . 614 when she later proposes to amend say miscellaneous provisions . Given the widespread use of electronic copies today she may even list those websites in the relevant clauses
這樣市民便可知道哪個網站所載的法例是最up-to-date、最全面和最準確的。
The general public can then know where to find the most up - to - date exhaustive and accurate Ordinances online
代理主席，我謹此發言，希望律政司司長可以接納我的提議。
Deputy Chairman I so submit . I hope the Secretary for Justice will take my advice
我提醒委員，主席早前已經就全體委員會審議時限作出裁決，全體委員會將於下午1時左右結束審議，請有意發言的委員把握時間發言。
I remind Members that according to the earlier ruling of the Chairman on the time limit of the Committee stage the scrutiny at this stage will end at about 1col00 pm . Members who wish to speak please seize the time
會議將於午膳後恢復，屆時我會邀請律政司司長再次發言，之後便進入表決程序。
The meeting will resume after lunch and I will then call upon the Secretary for Justice to speak again . After that we will proceed to vote
另一受影響的是《幼兒服務條例》，當中第15A1條訂明，被禁止不得擔任幼兒託管人或被禁止顯示自己為願意擔任幼兒託管人的人，如違反條文附表列出的罪行，會被視作被禁止人士。
The Child Care Services Ordinance Cap . 243 is another ordinance which will be affected . Section 15A1 of the Ordinance stipulates that persons who contravene the offences set out in the Schedule thereof will be regarded as prohibited persons who are prohibited from acting as or holding himself out as willing to act as childminders
被禁止人士當然不能擔任幼兒託管人。
Prohibited persons are certainly prohibited from acting as childminders
此外，有關修訂亦影響《監管釋囚條例》，這項條例只適用於服刑人士，即正在服刑而有關刑罰是根據第23條訂立的規例所指明的。
In addition the amendment will also affect the Post - Release Supervision of Prisoners Ordinance Cap . 475 . This Ordinance only applies to persons serving sentences namely persons serving a sentence specified in regulations made under section 23
第23條指出，其中的適用條件是附表1所指明的任何罪行，但必須為被判處監禁兩年或以上及為6年或以下的刑罰。
Section 23 stipulates that the Ordinance only applies to offences specified in Schedule 1 for which a sentence of imprisonment of two years or more but less than six years is imposed
附表中部分罪行與弱智人士有關，包括與弱智者作出肛交及與女性弱智者非法性交。
Some offences set out in the Schedule are related to mentally handicapped persons including buggery with a defective and unlawful intercourse with a female defective
這項修訂建議將《刑事罪行條例》中與弱智人士相關的罪行，同樣是以精神上無行為能力人士作為適用者。
The amendment proposes to make offences involving mentally handicapped persons under the Crimes Ordinance Cap
所以，"弱智"這種帶有貶意甚至是歧視性的詞語，其實早應作出修訂。
Therefore the term mentally handicapped which carries derogatory and even discriminatory connotations should have been amended a long time ago
這項修訂其實並不完整，因為在其他法例中，很多條文仍會使用"弱智"一詞。
The amendment is in fact incomplete because the term defective is still being used in many provisions of other laws
我要解釋一下，當初使用"精神上無行為能力"一詞，其實與《精神健康條例》直接有關。
Let me explain briefly . The initial use of the term mental incapacity was in fact directly related to the Mental Health Ordinance Cap . 136
這個概念與我們的做法有何抵觸？
What is the contradiction between this concept and our approach?
我們的做法是把人分為兩種，"精神上無行為能力的人"和"精神上有行為能力的人"。
Our approach is to categorize all persons into two types mentally incapacitated persons and mentally capable persons
所以，我徹底反對這個"精神上無行為能力"的概念，我不能接受法律上把人分為兩種的做法。
Therefore I absolutely oppose the mentally incapacitated concept and I cannot accept the approach of dividing all persons into two types under the law
2012年，聯會國殘疾人權利委員會審議中國及港澳地區殘疾人權工作的執行情況，相關文件提到"在法律面前獲得平等承認"，即CRPD第十二條，亦提到"委員會對建立法律監護關係的制度感到關切，該制度不符合《公約》第十二條的規定。
In 2012 the United Nations Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities reviewed the implementation of the rights of persons with disabilities in China Hong Kong and Macao . In the relevant paper equal recognition before the law ie . Article 12 of the Convention was mentioned
《刑事罪行條例》訂明不少有關精神上無行為能力的人的性罪行。
The Crimes Ordinance Cap . 200 provides for a number of sexual offences involving mentally incapacitated persons
例如，第125條"與精神上無行為能力的人性交"，列明"任何男子與一名屬精神上無行為能力的人的女子非法性交，即屬犯罪，一經循公訴程序定罪，可處監禁10年"。
For example section 125 Intercourse with mentally incapacitated person stipulates that a man who has unlawful sexual intercourse with a woman who is a mentally incapacitated person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for 10 years
然而，法改會報告書指出，現行法例沒有顧及那些具有能力給予同意的精神缺損人士的性自主權。
However it is pointed out in the LRC report that the existing legislation has not taken into account the sexual autonomy of mentally impaired persons who has the capacity to consent
所以，法改會當時就法例提出初步建議23"新訂罪行以誘使、威脅或欺騙手段促致與精神缺損人士進行涉及性的行為"，以及初步建議24"新訂罪行以誘使、威脅或欺騙手段導致精神缺損人士進行或同意進行涉及性的行為"。
Therefore LRC proposed Preliminary Recommendation 23 Proposed new offence Inducement threat or deception to procure sexual activity with a person with mental impairment PMI and Preliminary Recommendation 24 Proposed new offence Causing a PMI to engage in or agree to engage in sexual activity by inducement threat or deception
這種做法是一種進步，不是完全非黑即白地說有關人士連進行性行為的決定或權 利也沒有，反而是有關人士被誘使、威脅或欺騙而進行或同意進行性行為才是罪行。
This approach is a kind of progress as it does not state definitely that a PMI cannot make the decision or has the right to engage in sexual activity . On the contrary causing a PMI to engage in or agree to engage in sexual activity by inducement threat or deception is an offence
這是我們要面對的問題，我們仍要向聯合國交代香港過去如何執行《公約》的條文。
This is an issue that we have to face up to and we still have to explain to the United Nations how Hong Kong has implemented the provisions of the Convention in the past
張議員，你的發言時限到了。
Dr CHEUNG your speaking time is up
我作為代理全委會主席，有責任確保委員按照《議事規則》發言。
As Deputy Chairman I have the responsibility to ensure that Members comply with the Rules of Procedure when they speak
如果沒有其他委員想發言，我現在請律政司司長再次發言。
If no other Member wish to speak I now call upon the Secretary for Justice to speak again
主席，首先，我認為一定要向你表示遺憾，你剛才宣布在4時便要停止三讀辯論的發言時間，而之前在全體委員會審議階段的辯論時，理論上《議事規則》是容許我們作無限次發言的，只要我們的內容非無聊、瑣碎、重複和不對題。
President first of all I think it is necessary for me to express my regret to you . You announced just now that you would put a halt to Members speeches in the Third Reading debate at four oclock . Nevertheless in the preceding debate at the Committee stage Members were in theory allowed under the Rules of Procedure RoP to speak for an unlimited number of times provided that our speeches were not frivolous trivial repetitive and irrelevant
我現在不是評論，而是表示遺憾。
I am just expressing regret not making comment
沒關係，你可以對我有許多意見，但現在請你返回這項辯論的議題。
It does not matter that you may have many opinions about me . Please return to the subject of this debate now
司法機構須處理的案件堆積如山，削弱了本來設計得非常好的司法程序，這是荒謬和本末倒置的。
The backlog of cases to be handled by the Judiciary has undermined the judicial processes which were originally well - designed . This is absurd as the Administration is putting the cart before the horse
所以，我必須清楚解釋，這項修正案焦點錯誤，以期透過司法程序處理本來應透過其他程序解決的問題。
I must explain clearly that the focus of this amendment is to solve through judicial process problems that should be solved by other means . It is wrong to do so
這項修正案修訂有關的司法程序，將會影響很多決定，包括由高等法院處理的司法覆核許可和上訴，不單影響免遣返聲請案件，還會影響所有案件。殺雞焉用牛刀？
Given that this amendment amends the relevant judicial process many other decisions including leave to apply for JR and appeal cases handled by the High Court will also be affected affecting not only non - refoulement cases but all other cases
我們是否要"斬腳趾避沙蟲"？
Do we need to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut? . Are we trimming the toes to fit the shoes?
如果我不解釋清楚，怎能令公眾明白我對《條例草案》或這項修正案的立場？
If I do not explain clearly how can I make the public understand my stance on the Bill or this amendment?
我必須清楚指出問題所在。
I must state the problem clearly
立法會資訊服務部資料研究組曾發表一份研究報告，比較各國難民申請的成功率。
The Research Office of the Information Services Division of the Legislative Council had published a research report comparing the substantiation rates of refugee applications in various countries
我不是亂放空槍，而是與國際比較，其他國家的成功率是二三成，甚至六成。
If 20 % of the applications had been approved I am not making irresponsible remarks but I am comparing our substantiation rate with that of countries around the world and the substantiation rate of other countries is 20 % to 30 % or even 60 %
張超雄議員，你正在繼續重複你的論據，請你停止發言。
Dr Fernando CHEUNG you are still repeating your arguments please stop speaking
就《高等法院條例》的修訂，我們多位民主派議員提出，問題的核心不在於高等法院，而是之前的審批過程，但司長完全沒有反應，既沒有聆聽、回應議員提出的意見，更指我其他的發言不相關。
Regarding the amendments to the High Court Ordinance a number of our fellow pro - democracy Members have suggested that the crux of the problem does not lie in the High Court but in the preceding vetting and approval process . However the Secretary has been completely indifferent . She has neither listened to nor responded to Members views and has even accused me of making other irrelevant speeches
我當然反對三讀《條例草案》。
I certainly oppose the Third Reading of the Bill
反對三讀的部分原因，正正是《條例草案》在概念上是一個大倒退。
Part of the reason why I oppose the Third Reading is that conceptually the Bill represents a major retrogression
從爭取殘疾人士權益或基本人權的角度看，《條例草案》與聯合國《殘疾人權利公約》背道而馳，我們當然要反對。
From the perspective of advocates of the rights and interests of persons with disabilities or basic human rights the Bill runs counter to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and we definitely have to raise opposition
我之前和其他同事均指出，問題的核心並非單憑修改《高等法院條例》，減低法官數目便能解決。
As I and other Honourable colleagues have pointed out the crux of the problem cannot be solved simply by amending the High Court Ordinance to reduce the number of judges
有多少免遣返聲請司法覆核許可的申請人有律師代表呢？
How many applicants for leave to apply for judicial review for cases involving non - refoulement claims are represented by lawyers?
如果他們有律師代表，甚至之前已徵詢律師意見，檢視其個案是否具可訴性，即所謂merit，如具可訴性及有case的話......
Had they been represented by a lawyer or if they had consulted a lawyer in advance on the justiciability namely the merits of their application so as to understand if they have a case
主席，我不知道何謂重複論據。
President I have no idea what you meant by repeating arguments
主席，我只有一次發言機會，我最多只會用盡15分鐘解釋我的立場。
President I have only one chance to speak and I will use up my 15 minutes at most to explain my position
主席，我一直希望解釋我為何反對三讀《條例草案》。
President I have been meaning to explain why I oppose the Third Reading of the Bill
《條例草案》提出的建議，包括修訂《高等法院條例》，將上訴法庭的法官人數改變，主要針對處理某些司法覆核許可的上訴。
The proposals set out in the Bill include amending the number of judges on the bench of the Court of Appeal mainly responsible for handling appeals against decisions on leave for judicial review
請主席指示，我除了說贊成或反對之外，我還可以說甚麼？
President please give me guidance as to what I can say other than stating my support or opposition
據我理解，在三讀辯論中，議員可表達支持或反對《條例草案》的立場及背後的理由。
To my understanding Members may express their positions and justifications for supporting or opposing the Bill in this Third Reading debate . I wonder if Dr Junius HO has any brilliant idea
梁君彥，我們現正談論的《條例草案》，會影響上訴法庭如何審議司法覆核的申請，我想引述的案例正正是司法覆核的案例。
Andrew LEUNG the Bill we are discussing now will affect how the Court of Appeal deliberates on applications for judicial review . The case I intend to cite as an example is exactly a civil review case
代理主席，在二讀辯論時，議員當然就法案的整體優劣作判斷和評論。
Deputy President at the Second Reading debate a Member should certainly make judgments and comments on the general merits of the bill
林卓廷議員剛才詳細交代背景，我認為這對於大家的討論一定有禆益。
Mr LAM Cheuk - ting has just now given a detailed account of the background which I think is certainly conducive to our discussion
林議員剛才作了清楚說明，而我相信稍後何俊賢議員必然會大力鞭撻以下這個事實。
Mr LAM has already explained this clearly and I believe Mr Steven HO will certainly blast the following fact in a moment
在2012年，《2012年漁業保護條例》生效，引入漁船登記制度。
In 2012 the Fisheries Protection Amendment Ordinance 2012 came into effect under which a fishing vessel registration scheme was introduced
姑勿論這制度是好是壞，事實就是引入了登記制度，規定所有漁船須向漁農自然護理署登記，方可在香港水域捕魚，當時的截止日期是2012年6月15日。
Let us put aside the argument over whether the scheme is good or not . The fact was that a registration scheme was indeed introduced under which all fishing vessels must be registered with the Agriculture Fisheries and Conservation Department AFCD for conducting fishing operations in Hong Kong waters . The then cut - off date was 15 June 2012
林卓廷議員剛才清楚提及相關數據，以記錄入立法會會議紀錄中。
Mr LAM Cheuk - ting has clearly read out the relevant figures so that they can be put on the meeting records of the Legislative Council
當時有4,474艘漁船獲登記，但有494宗申請被拒絕，而當中319宗的拒絕理由是有關船隻在2012年6月15日未領有有效的運作牌照。
At that time 4 474 fishing vessels were registered but 494 applications were rejected among which 319 were turned down on the grounds that the vessels concerned did not possess a valid operating licence on 15 June 2012 . I would like to raise the following question
我想提出的問題是，為甚麼當時行政上訴委員會處理的182宗個案中，已作裁決的160宗個案全部敗訴。
Why is it that of the 182 cases handled by the Administrative Appeals Board AAB 160 cases on which rulings had been handed down were all dismissed?
當一些漁船正在維修時，無法趕在限期前讓海事處檢查，所以便錯過了登記時限。
Fishing vessels which underwent repair and could not be inspected by the Marine Department by the deadline would miss the cut - off date for registration
荒謬的是，漁護署署長由於沒有酌情權，所以只能表示愛莫能助。
More absurdly as DAFC did not have any discretionary power he could only express sympathies but could not do anything
代理主席，我本來不熟悉漁船牌照的申請和登記程序，但由於提出了《條例草案》，我看了相關的程序和規定。
Deputy President I was not familiar with the procedure for licence application and registration of fishing vessels at first but due to the introduction of the Bill I have taken a look at the procedure and requirements concerned
原來漁船的登記制度很複雜，我們不妨嘗試了解一下。
It turns out that the fishing vessel registration scheme is very complicated . Let us perhaps try to make sense of it
首先，根據海事處本地船舶安全組出版的《工作守則第III類別船隻安全標準》，漁船屬於第III類別船隻，而這可以細分為漁船、運魚船、漁船舢舨，以及舷外機開敞式舢舨。
First pursuant to the CODE OF PRACTICE―Safety Standards for Class III Vessels published by the Local Vessels Safety Section of the Marine Department fishing vessels are Class III vessels which can be categorized into fishing vessels fish carriers fishing sampans and outboard open sampans
所有船隻可分類為A類或B類，A類是用鋼、鋁、玻璃纖維製造，B類是用玻璃纖維或木質製造。
Every vessel shall be categorized into Category A or B; Category A vessels are made from steel aluminium or glass reinforced plastic and Category B vessels are made from glass reinforced plastic or wood
更複雜的是，原來漁船再分為有主機和沒有主機。
A more complicated thing is that fishing vessels are actually further categorized into those with main engine and those without main engine
文件沒有說清楚，只籠統地用漁船來概括，亦沒有詳細講述船東8年前遇到甚麼具體困難或苦衷而錯過登記。
The paper does not make it clear and only uses the term fishing vessels in general . Nor does it set out in detail what specific difficulties or hardships vessel owners encountered such that they missed the registration eight years ago
當局本應就此作出詳細交代。
The authorities should have given a detailed explanation in this regard
代理主席，我一直都在議題範圍內。
Deputy President I have all along been within the scope of the subject
不過，辯論需要鋪陳理據，理據需要慢慢鋪陳，任何專心聆聽的人都會明白，我一直都在議題範圍內，並沒有離開有關香港水域的題目。
However arguments need to be elaborated at a slow pace in a debate . Anyone who has been attentive will understand that I have all along been within the scope of the subject and never deviated from the subject of Hong Kong waters
律政司司長會動議修正案，旨在修正第6條。
Secretary for Justice will move an amendment which seeks to amend clause 6
你是否想發言？
Do you want to speak?
可是，熟悉上訴法庭程序或其一貫處理案件的做法的人都知道，上訴法庭需要多於3名法官處理案件的情況相當少，甚至從未發生。
However as people who are familiar with the procedures or established practice of CA in handling cases may be aware it is pretty rare or even unprecedented for cases to be heard by more than three JAs
按我理解，這種情況應該從未發生，但如果確曾發生，我希望律政司司長可以藉此機會，解釋上訴法庭是基於甚麼原則或考慮甚麼因素須由多於3名法官組成。
As far as I understand it this situation has never happened . But if it has I hope that the Secretary for Justice will seize this opportunity to explain the principles or considerations involved whereby CA consists of more than three JAs
在某些情況下，案件須由5名法官聽審，而當其中一名法官無法繼續時，法庭會如何處理案件餘下程序的公正性。
Cases must be heard by five JAs in some instances . How will the court address the issue of impartiality for the remaining proceedings if one of the JAs is unable to continue?
我希望局方可以就這個不清晰之處作出陳述，或藉此機會清楚解釋，究竟法律顧問提出的情況是否存在問題或不清晰之處，以及在5名法官中有1人無法繼續審理案件，而餘下4名法官又無法達成統一意見時，將有何處理方法。
I hope that the authorities would make a statement on this ambiguity or take this opportunity to clearly explain whether there are problems or ambiguities with the situation highlighted by the Legal Adviser and how cases where one of the five JAs cannot continue and the remaining four JAs are unable to reach a consensus would be dealt with
我剛才也提到，代理主席，上訴法庭由5名法官同時審理一宗案件的情況，我從未見過，亦不知道有甚麼案件須由5名上訴法庭法官處理。
As I pointed out earlier on Deputy Chairman I have never seen any cases heard by five - JA bench nor have I heard of any case requiring five JAs to handle
如果過往確曾有這類案件，我希望律政司司長可以提供這方面的資料，讓大家知悉原來在香港的司法制度下，有時候需要5名上訴法庭法官。
If there are really such cases in the past I hope that the Secretary for Justice will provide the relevant information so that we will know that under the judicial system of Hong Kong there are instances where cases have to be dealt with by five JAs
不過，上訴法庭由5名法官審理同一宗案件，我不知道會在甚麼情況下出現。
However I have no idea under what circumstances a case would be heard by five JAs
我剛才指出，原訟法庭由2名法官處理的案件，有時候是牽涉緊急的憲政問題，有時候是由於案件牽涉公法或人權法的問題，而在同一時間亦牽涉刑事程序。
As I have pointed out just now cases handled by two CFI judges may sometimes involve urgent constitutional issues public law or human rights law and even criminal proceedings may also be involved at the same time
在這情況下，便需要由1名民事法官及1名刑事法官同時處理案件，而這種情況亦的確曾經出現。
In this circumstance a civil judge and a criminal judge will be required to handle the case together and this had also happened before
我相信這是很多人會提出的問題。
I believe this is the most frequently asked question
當局是否真的要將第34B3條的情況納入現有第34B5條呢？
So is it really necessary for the existing section 34B5 to cover section 34B3?
我認為這情況根本沒有可能出現，除非律政司司長或司法機構稍後清楚解釋，第34B3條的情況實際上真的適用。
I do not think so unless the Secretary for Justice or the Judiciary can later explain clearly when section 34B3 will actually apply
主席，你可能聽得清楚，但我不知道律政司或司法機構有否聽清楚，或者正在收看的......
Chairman while you may have listened to me clearly I do not know whether the Department of Justice or the Judiciary is clear about my viewpoint
請委員不要猜測其他人，包括官員的......
I urge Members not to speculate about others including government officials
主席，你可能聽得明白，但如果其他人或者......我不會猜測現場任何一位官員或立法會議員明白的程度，但問題是，我們要用一個實際例子來證明......
Chairman you may have understood my viewpoint but what if other people or I will not speculate about the level of understanding of any government officials or Council Members present . Yet I need to cite a real case to prove that
我已多次提醒委員。
I have repeatedly reminded Members about this
代理主席，我明白，今次......
Deputy Chairman I understand the current
林卓廷議員，作為資深議員，你很清楚《議事規則》要求議員不得重複其他委員的論點......
Mr LAM Cheuk - ting as a veteran Member you know full well that in accordance with the Rules of Procedure Members shall not repeat other Members arguments
我必須執行《議事規則》。
I must enforce the Rules of Procedure
《床位寓所條例》第33條的修訂中文文本是"作出合理的監管及合理的努力"。
The amended Chinese text of section 33 of the Bedspace Apartments Ordinance Cap . 447 is 作出合理的監管及合理的努力
《安老院條例》第21條 的修訂中文文本是"合理的努力"。
The amended Chinese text of section 21 of the Residential Care Homes Ordinance is 合理的努力
第27分部涉及《藥物倚賴者治療康復中心條例》，修訂中文文本是"作出合理的監管及合理的努力"。
Division 27 concerns the Drug Dependent Persons Treatment and Rehabilitation Centres Licensing Ordinance Cap . 566 and the amended Chinese text is 作出合理的監管及合理的努力