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如果我們只根據一些沒有事實根據的推測，根據一些傳聞而貿然透過立法會的權力干預廉署的工作和人事安排，這樣只會破壞廉署的獨立性和公信力。
If we base our decision solely on some unfounded speculations and rumours and rashly invoke the power given to this Council to interfere with the work arrangements and personnel matters of ICAC this will only hamper the independence and damage the credibility of ICAC
代理主席，我反對有關議案。
Deputy President I object to the motion
代理主席，開宗明義，商界堅決反對取消強制性公積金對沖機制，亦反對其他影響本港有利營商環境的政策。
Deputy President I would like to state at the outset that the business sector resolutely opposes abolishing the offsetting mechanism and other policies that affect Hong Kongs favourable business environment
強積金計劃自從2000年實施以來，成效的確未如理想，但問題並非如原議案措辭所述，對沖機制一直為社會詬病。
Since the implementation of the Mandatory Provident Fund MPF scheme in 2000 its effectiveness has indeed been unsatisfactory . However it is not because the offsetting mechanism has all along been criticized by society as stated in the original motion
反之，是強積金整體的表現未達到"打工仔女"所預期，甚至不符合廣大僱主的期望。
On the contrary the overall performance of MPF schemes has failed to meet the expectations of wage earners or even met the aspirations of employers in general
管理費高和回報率低是否問題的癥結所在呢？
Is the crux of the problem lies in its exorbitant management fees and low rates of return?
如果模糊焦點，單方面提出取消強積金的對沖機制，又是否能馬上解決強積金的問題呢？
Can blurring the focus by unilaterally proposing abolishing the MPF offsetting mechanism resolve the problem with the MPF scheme immediately?
首先，對沖機制作為強積金制度的重要部分，是經過勞、資和政府三方長時間的磋商，艱難地取得的共識。
First of all the offsetting mechanism as an important component of the MPF System represents the tripartite consensus reached by employers employees and the Government after prolonged discussions
根據《強制性公積金計劃條例》，僱主可使用其為僱員向強積金支付的供款產生的累算權益，抵銷根據《僱傭條例》須向有關僱員支付的遣散費或長期服務金。
Under the Mandatory Provident Fund Schemes Ordinance an employer who is liable to pay an employee severance payment or long service payment under the Employment Ordinance EO can offset the severance or long service payment with the accrued benefits derived from the employers contributions made to an MPF scheme for the employee
在強積金制度實施之前，《僱傭條例》亦容許有關做法。
Actually this practice was already allowed under EO prior to the implementation of the MPF System
可以說，這個安排是延續了《僱傭條例》一直以來的做法，如果取消對沖機制便有違立法原意。
In other words this arrangement is an extension of the long - standing practice prescribed in EO and an abolition of the offsetting mechanism will deviate from the legislative intent
代理主席，回歸前，教育統籌司在1995年審議《強制性公積金計劃條例草案》時已清楚說出，"僱主對退休計劃的供款可與遣散費或長期服務金的任何數額抵銷，所以要僱主繳款兩次是不恰當的"。
Before the reunification Deputy President during the scrutiny of the Mandatory Provident Fund Schemes Bill in 1995 the then Secretary for Education and Manpower clearly stated that the employers contributions to a retirement scheme may be set off against any amount paid out for severance payments or long service payments . It is not appropriate to expect employers to pay twice
這句說話已被多次引述，亦因為這個承諾，僱主才同意實施強積金計劃。
Not only have these remarks been quoted many times but it was also because of this pledge that employers agreed to the implementation of the MPF scheme
當局不能哄騙工商界答應後，因勞工界覺得實施得不好，要求更改，於是特首和特區政府便迫於單方面的壓力，向工商界"開刀"。
After duping the industrial and commercial sectors into agreement the authorities cannot make a request for change on the ground that the labour sector considers the MPF scheme not well implemented . As a result the Chief Executive and the Special Administrative Region Government are compelled to target on the industrial and commercial sectors due to unilateral pressure
一如《最低工資條例》的情況，在實施後每兩年一次的工資水平檢討中，勞工界都"開天索價"，而工商界每每有理有據地"落地還錢"，卻被人指責為"無良僱主"、"賺到盡"，但實際情況究竟是否這樣呢？
As with the biennial wage level review conducted after the commencement of the Minimum Wage Ordinance the labour sector has often been found proposing a huge wage increase . Even though the industrial and commercial sectors would invariably drive a bargain with justifications they were criticized for being unscrupulous employers or maximizing their profits . However was it the actual case?
大家到茶餐廳吃飯，為何價格很快便由30元加至40元？
Why was the price for a meal served in a Hong Kong - style café raised from 30 to 40 within a very short period of time?
為何"有樓人士"覺得管理費有加無減？
Why do home owners feel that management fees will only go up?
大家都很明白箇中的原因，問題不是把洗碗工人或保安員的最低工資提高少許便可以，老闆還要考慮行政人員、樓面員工、部長、收銀員、廚房員工等是否要加薪，這稱為漣漪效應。
Everyone should know the reasons . The point is that proprietors have to consider whether wage increases should be offered to administrative personnel floor staff supervisors cashiers kitchen staff and so on in addition to raising the minimum wage for dishwashing workers or security guards . This is called a ripple effect
不要以為把最低工資提高少許沒有問題，商界可以承擔。
Do not ever think that raising the minimum wage by a small rate is not a problem for it is affordable to the business sector
現時的經營環境有多艱難，大家都看得到，老闆不止要考慮避免結業，如果取消對沖機制，他便連結業都不能。
Members should be able to see the difficulty experienced in the current business environment . Not only must proprietors consider how to avoid folding up their businesses but they cannot even resort to winding up should the offsetting mechanism be abolished
以前的說法是"創業難，守業更難"，現在是"結業更困難"。
We used to say it is not easy to start a new business but even more difficult to stay afloat . Nowadays it is even more difficult to fold up
政府不要經常作單方面考慮，必須平衡社會各方面的利益。
The Government must balance the interests of various sectors in society rather than considering the matter unilaterally all the time
再者，政府去年回應立法會議員質詢時亦承認，未就取消對沖機制對僱主、營商環境和經濟的影響作出評估。
Furthermore in responding to the questions raised by Members last year the Government also conceded that it had not assessed the impacts of an abolition of the offsetting mechanism on employers the business environment and the economy
香港經濟民生聯盟有一些數據可以讓政府參考。
Here are some data from the Business and Professionals Alliance for Hong Kong for reference by the Government
我們在今年3月至5月向300個商會進行問卷調查，當中近八成受訪商會認為，取消強積金對沖機制會令企業營運成本增加；七成受訪商會認為會削弱香港的競爭力；超過八成半受訪商會反對取消對沖機制。
In a questionnaire survey conducted by us from March to May this year in which 300 trade associations were involved nearly 80 % of the respondents considered that an abolition of the MPF offsetting mechanism would increase the operating costs of enterprises; 70 % believed that Hong Kongs competitive edge would be undermined; and more than 85 % opposed the abolition of the offsetting mechanism
如果取消對沖機制，約七成受訪商會預期企業會改為聘用更多合約員工；六成受訪商會預期企業會將額外的成本轉嫁給消費者；超過一半受訪商會預期在取消對沖機制生效前，企業會解僱年資超過5年或接近5年的員工，以節省長期服務金。
Should the offsetting mechanism be abolished some 70 % of the respondents anticipated that enterprises would hire more contract staff instead; 60 % anticipated that enterprises would shift the additional costs onto consumers; and more than half anticipated that before the offsetting mechanism was abolished enterprises would dismiss staff members whose length of service was more than or close to five years with a view to achieving savings in long service payment
代理主席，由此可見，取消對沖機制將無可避免導致就業零散化。
Deputy President it is thus evident that abolishing the offsetting mechanism will inevitably result in fragmentation of jobs
這對於目前在職僱員的工作條件，以及維繫和諧的僱傭關係，可說是百害而無一利。
It can be said that such an initiative will bring nothing but harm to the conditions of work of employees currently in employment and the maintenance of harmonious employment relations
我相信，無論是商界或勞工界都認為要全面檢視強積金計劃，進一步降低基金收費，提升基金表現，以增加強積金的投資回報。
I believe both the commercial and labour sectors consider it necessary to comprehensively review the MPF scheme to further reduce fund fees and enhance fund performance with a view to increasing the investment return on MPF
如果我們不全面檢討，而只是單方面取消對沖機制，並不符合市民大眾利益。
It is not in line with the general public interest to abolish the offsetting mechanism unilaterally without conducting a comprehensive review
社會上對強積金計劃有很多意見與批評，其中最為人詬病的，包括高昂的行政費蠶食了供款人最終可以提取的退休金，以及回報未符理想，甚至錄得虧損。
There are many views and comments against the MPF System in society . The most scathing criticisms include the exorbitant administrative fees eroding the pensions which the contributors may withdraw in the end and unsatisfactory returns and even losses recorded
強積金於2015-2016年度便錄得8.2%虧損，蒸發超過500億港元，估計每名僱員因而損失近2萬港元。
In 2015 - 2016 MPF schemes recorded a loss of 8.2 % with more than HK50 billion evaporated . It is estimated that each employee has thus lost nearly HK20,000
因此，強積金計劃是否足以作為僱員的退休保障，實在令人懷疑。
Hence it is indeed doubtful whether the MPF System can sufficiently serve as retirement protection for employees
由於計劃存在不足，社會上要求改革之聲亦不絕於耳。
Given the inadequacies of the System there are incessant calls for reform in society
經過多次修訂，現時強積金已實行"半自由行"，僱員可自選強積金受託人，亦可在特定情況下提早提取強積金，或在65歲後選擇以一筆過或分期提取。
After a number of amendment exercises the MPF System has currently implemented semi - portability under which employees may choose their own MPF trustees . They may also make early withdrawal of the MPF accrued benefits under specific circumstances or choose to withdraw them at one go or in phases
此外，在上一個立法年度，立法會亦已通過引入"預設投資策略"及調低基金管理費。
Moreover in the last legislative session the Legislative Council approved the introduction of the Default Investment Strategy and downward adjustment of fund management fees
然而，社會上仍有更加進取的意見，建議取消強積金僱主供款部分的累算權益與長期服務金和遣散費對沖的機制。
Nevertheless there is still a more demanding proposal in society for abolishing the mechanism of offsetting long service and severance payments against the MPF accrued benefits being the employers contributions
對沖機制並不是一項新安排，《僱傭條例》早於1974年及1986年，分別引入遣散費和長期服務金。
The offsetting arrangement is not a new arrangement . As early as 1974 and 1986 severance and long service payments were respectively introduced under the Employment Ordinance
當時，政府容許僱主以公積金抵銷遣散費及長期服務金。
At that time the Government allowed employers to use provident fund benefits to offset severance and long service payments
因此，當政府推出強積金計劃時，便同樣允許強積金設有對沖機制。
For this reason when the Government launched the MPF System it similarly allowed an offsetting mechanism for MPF
有人指出，現行的強積金對沖機制，變相"沖走"了"打工仔"的供款權益，更指截至今年第一季度，便"沖走"了292億元。
Some people have commented that the present MPF offsetting mechanism has in effect washed away the benefits being wage earners contributions . They have even commented that as at the first quarter of this year 29.2 billion has been washed away
我認為這種說法有誤導之嫌，因為在對沖機制下，強積金戶口內所有供款及累算權益，只是提早轉移至"打工仔"的儲蓄戶口，即是"預支"而非"沖走"。
I consider such comments misleading because under the offsetting mechanism all the contributions and accrued benefits in MPF accounts are simply transferred to the wage earners savings accounts earlier . That means an early withdrawal rather than being washed off
可是，即使有對沖機制，亦不代表僱主就完全無須善後。
However the availability of an offsetting mechanism does not mean that employers absolutely need not follow up anything
如果僱主的供款及其累算權益不足以支付所須金額，僱主仍須作出補貼。
If an employers contributions and their accrued benefits are not sufficient to pay the required amount the employer will still have to meet the shortfall
現時正值本港經濟下滑，以我代表的貨運物流業為例，本港的貨櫃吞吐量已連續26個月下跌，經營成本卻不斷飆升，貨運業的經營越見困難。
Now Hong Kong is experiencing an economic downturn . Take the freight forwarding and logistics industry which I represent as an example . The cargo throughput in Hong Kong has dropped for 26 months in a row but business costs have continuously surged making business operation in the freight forwarding industry increasingly difficult
財政司司長已多次表示，受環球經濟不明朗的因素拖累，預計香港經濟只能保持低速增長，相信香港整體經濟在短期內難有起色。
The Financial Secretary has repeatedly indicated that given the encumbrances of global economic uncertainties it is estimated that the Hong Kong economy can only maintain slow growth . It is believed that the overall economic situation in Hong Kong will hardly show any signs of improvement in the short run
在經濟不景下，貨運量又持續下跌，我所代表的業界大部分都是中小微企，大家也正勒緊褲帶。
With the slack economy and continual reduction in cargo throughput most of the operators in my sector which are small and medium enterprises SMEs and micro - enterprises have tightened their belts
在艱苦經營之際，如政府現時落實取消強積金對沖機制，僱主便要承受雙重負擔，既要繼續向強積金供款，又要撥備支付員工的長期服務金或遣散費，只會令業界雪上加霜，甚至出現倒閉潮。
While employers are struggling hard in their business operation if the Government now implements the abolition of the MPF offsetting mechanism they will have to bear the dual burden of continuing to make MPF contributions and making provisions for employees long service or severance payments . It will only add to the miseries of the industry and even give rise to a spate of business closures
如果政府一意孤行取消強積金對沖機制，不排除出現下列情況：第一，很多中小企會先行遣散部分非必要及年資長的員工，以節省賠償開支；第二，為免支付龐大的遣散費或長期服務金，僱主或會增聘合約制員工取代全職員工，窒礙勞工市場的發展；第三，中小企僱主或因資金緊絀而未能支付遣散費或長期服務金，以致拖欠個案有所增加。
If the Government is bent on abolishing the MPF offsetting mechanism it cannot be ruled out that the following situations will emerge first many SMEs will take early actions to dismiss some non - essential employees with long years of service in order to save the costs of compensation . Second to avoid making enormous severance or long service payments employers may hire additional contract staff to replace full - time staff thus hindering the development of the labour market . Third employers in SMEs may fail to make severance or long service payments owing to the liquidity crunch thus leading to an increase in the number of default cases
強積金對沖機制是當年檢討強積金安排時，經過廣泛諮詢後取得的共識。
The MPF offsetting mechanism was a consensus reached after extensive consultation during the review of the MPF arrangements back then
機制旨在為僱主預留一筆費用，以免日後因經營出現問題而無法向員工支付龐大遣散費或長期服務金。
The mechanism aims at reserving a sum of money for employers so that they will not be unable to make enormous severance or long service payments to their employees owing to any future business problems
佔本港市場98%的中小企，流動資金不多。
SMEs accounting for 98 % of the Hong Kong market do not have a lot of liquid capital
當時不少企業鑒於對沖機制得以保留，才會贊成推行強積金計劃。
Back then many enterprises supported the implementation of the MPF System only because the offsetting mechanism could be maintained
如果現時要推翻當日的協議，對於全港約30萬名中小微企的僱主絕不公平，亦會令處於水深火熱的中小企雪上加霜，對其營運帶來深遠影響。
It is absolutely unfair to the approximately 300 000 employers in the SMEs and micro - enterprises in the whole territory if the then agreement is overturned now . It will also add to the miseries of the SMEs which are already in dire straits and bring far - reaching impact on their operations
中小企是香港的中流砥柱，任何影響中小企營商環境的政策，也會對本港經濟帶來負面影響。
SMEs are the mainstay of Hong Kong . Any policy which affects the business environment of SMEs will also cause adverse impacts to the Hong Kong economy
單靠強積金，固然不足以提供退休保障，世界銀行亦建議利用多支柱的退休保障模式以互補不足。
The MPF System alone is certainly insufficient for providing retirement protection and the World Bank has also suggested applying a multi - pillar retirement protection model to make up for each others deficiencies
政府實在不應該把退休保障的責任完全推卸給商界，只顧向僱主開刀，而應該在退休保障問題上負上一定責任。
In fact the Government should not completely shirk the responsibility of retirement protection onto the business sector only fleecing the employers . Rather it should assume a considerable part of the responsibility for the retirement protection issue
鑒於現時政府的外匯基金及儲備高達3萬億元，政府會否考慮把部分儲備撥作退休保障專用的種子基金？
Given that the Governments Exchange Fund and reserve have now reached 3,000 billion will the Government consider ear - marking part of the reserve as a seed fund designated for retirement protection?
透過多管齊下的方案，市民才可獲得完善的退休保障。
It is only through a multi - pronged approach can members of the public receive the best retirement protection
代理主席，就取消強制性公積金對沖機制這個議題，真是永遠沒有共識。
Deputy President a consensus can actually never be reached on the subject of abolishing the Mandatory Provident Fund MPF offsetting mechanism
政府現在佔盡便宜，因為當局擁有最好的武器，便是社會上未有共識，大家要再討論一下。
The Government is now taking full advantage of this situation because the authorities are armed with the best weapon that is the lack of a consensus in society which entails the need for further discussion
四年來，政府最擅長將 事情兩極化，彷彿僱主和僱員是死對頭，商界代表和勞工代表是百分百對立。
Over the past four years the Government has been most adept at creating polarization on this subject as if employers and employees are arch - enemies while the representatives of the commercial and labour sectors hold entirely opposite views
我希望香港市民看清楚，立法會民主派議員基本上全部贊成議案，包括原議案及張超雄議員、劉小麗議員及尹兆堅議員提出的修正案。
I hope the people of Hong Kong can see clearly that all Members of the democratic camp in the Legislative Council basically support the motion including the original motion as well as the amendments proposed by Dr Fernando CHEUNG Dr LAU Siu - lai and Mr Andrew WAN
在我們共同生活的社會中，有一個最基本原則是濟弱扶傾。
In this society where we live together helping the weak and vulnerable is the most fundamental principle
情況就好像香港一直爭取民主，但進行民主運動要先跟老闆說一聲，老闆就是"北京"，他先送我們一份白皮書，接着作出八三一決定，最後讓你在他篩選過的人當中選出一人，這就是"一人一票"。
All along we have to inform the boss that is Beijing before engaging in any democratic movement . He first gave us the white paper . Then he made the 31 August Decision
政府竟然裝模作樣，真的想"摸底"，當局說不如取消長期服務金，以失業保險金取代。
The Government actually put up a show and intended to test the waters . The authorities suggested abolishing long service payment and replacing it with unemployment insurance
可是，時移勢易，時代不斷進步，如果一套制度永遠不能更改，那麼人類社會仍然會有奴隸制度，對嗎？
However things have changed and society has advanced with the passage of time . If a system can never be changed the slavery system will remain in human society right?
今天，建制派都注意到，我們在修正案中再次提醒大家，梁振英在上次特首選舉時誇誇其談，提到"一支筆、一本簿、一張櫈"，也曾作出承諾。
Today as the pro - establishment camp has also noticed our refreshed reminder to Members through the amendments that LEUNG Chun - ying had indulged in talks about a pen a notebook and a stool and made a pledge in the last Chief Executive Election
正因如此，我們有社會責任和道義責任幫助廉署撥亂反正。
Precisely for this reason we have the social responsibility and moral obligation to help ICAC right the wrong
其實，廉署受立法會監察，並非一如張國鈞議員所說般，是我們捏造出來的"廉署風暴"。
Actually ICAC is subject to the monitoring of the Legislative Council . And this ICAC storm is not created by us based on fabrication as asserted by Mr CHEUNG Kwok - kwan
回看歷史，審計署署長在2013年4月就廉署肅貪倡廉的工作發表了一份衡工量值式的審計報告。
Let us look back at history . In April 2013 the Director of Audit issued a value - for - money audit report on ICACs anti - corruption efforts
根據這份報告，當時政府帳目委員會亦審視了其他關於廉署的事宜，尤其是前廉政專員湯顯明先生的酬酢、消費和外遊的行為。
At the time the Public Accounts Committee PAC also examined other ICAC - related matters based on this report especially the official entertainment gifts and duty visits involving former ICAC Commissioner Mr Timothy TONG
在接下來的跟進工作中，帳委會召開多次公開聆訊，最後作出結論，嚴厲譴責前廉政專員湯顯明先生。
PAC held a number of public hearings as its subsequent follow - up and severely condemned former ICAC Commissioner Mr Timothy TONG in its conclusion
由於這份調查報告，律政司亦曾經考慮對湯顯明先生作出起訴。
Given this inquiry report the Department of Justice once considered the initiation of prosecution against Mr Timothy TONG at the time
當然，我尊重律政司司長在2016年的決定，不起訴湯顯明先生，但由於該份審計署署長報告和帳委會的報告，廉政專員白韞六的確需要成立一些工作小組，徹底檢視廉署的內部監控，尤其是對支出的監控，並重新發出指引，令內部監控更完善和完美。
I certainly respect the decision of the Secretary for Justice in 2016 on not prosecuting Mr Timothy TONG . But given the Director of Audits report and also the PAC report it is honestly necessary for ICAC Commissioner Simon PEH to set up certain working groups to thoroughly review the internal control of ICAC and issue new guidelines so as to improve and perfect its internal control
這些全部都是事實，並非捕風捉影。
All this is based on facts rather than mere fabrication
當然，有個別傳媒表示，有關人事變動是由於"李寶蘭事件"所引致，而李女士是在廉署中負責調查UGL事件的最高執行人員。
Of course certain individual media organizations have ascribed these personnel changes to the Rebecca LI incident and Ms LI was the highest - ranking operational officer in ICAC who was responsible for investigating the UGL incident
雖然我們未能夠證實這說法，但單看今年短短數月間，廉署已出現如此多高層人士的變動，這本身已經是一個問題。
While we are unable to prove this the many senior personnel changes in ICAC over just a short span of several months this year are already a problem
廉署的人力資源規劃究竟出現了甚麼問題呢？
What has gone wrong in ICACs manpower planning?
廉署的首長廉政專員對於人事管理是否一竅不通，令如此多高層人員流失呢？
Is it right to say that the ICAC Commissioner as the head of ICAC knows nothing about personnel management thus leading to a high wastage of senior personnel?
我所述的四、五項人事變動都是事實，我不認為有任何值得商榷的地方，並且是已經發生的事。
The four or five personnel changes I have talked about are all based on facts and I do not see any need for verification . Besides all this has already happened
單就廉署的人事管理和規劃問題，難道不值得我們探究嗎？
Isnt it right to say that the personnel management and planning of ICAC alone already serves as a sufficient ground for an inquiry?
當然，這是一次禮節性的拜訪，而我也有機會坐下來跟廉政專員討論多項關於廉署操作和運作的問題、社會關心的問題，包括"李寶蘭事件"。
Of course it was a courtesy visit during which I also had an opportunity to meet with the ICAC Commissioner and discuss many issues relating to the practice and operation of ICAC and also matters of social concern including the Rebecca LI incident
我不可以詳述當天的情況，但總的來說，廉政專員在公開場合和該次內部會議中也表示，基於私隱問題，他不能就"李寶蘭事件"、李寶蘭辭職的問題給予詳細答覆。
I cannot go into the details of the meeting that day . But generally speaking according to his remarks on public occasions and also at that internal meeting the ICAC Commissioner cannot give a detailed reply to the questions about the Rebecca LI incident or Rebecca LIs resignation for reason of privacy
另一個問題是，多位議員指李寶蘭女士在辭職後這麼長的時間亦不曾作出任何回應，也不曾對廉署的公開聲明發表不同意的意見。
Another thing is that as pointed out by many Members Ms Rebecca LI has not given any reply since her resignation quite some time ago; nor has she expressed any dissenting views on the public statements issued by ICAC
大家要看清楚一個事實。
Members should realize a fact
身為一間執法機構的高層，即使她在多麼不愉快、多麼不願意的情況下離開崗位，亦必須遵守保密協議，尤其是她 是一間執法機構的高層人員。
She was a senior officer in a law enforcement body so she must observe the confidentiality agreement regardless of how unhappy or reluctant she was at the time of leaving her position . In particular she was a senior officer in a law enforcement body
這項保密協議可以是她離職多年後仍然有效的。
The confidentiality agreement can remain in force many years after her department
對於李寶蘭女士的緘默，我表示尊重，但這並不表示此事沒有其他原因。
I respect Ms Rebecca LIs silence . But this does not mean that there are no other reasons to explain this
實際上，離開執法機構的高層人員必須遵守絕對保密的原則，這是專業精神的體現。
Actually any senior officer in a law enforcement body must observe the principle of absolute confidentiality after departure . This is a manifestation of professionalism
如果大家戴有色眼鏡，認為我們進行調查其實想作出政治操作、政治"抽水"的話，其實是不必要的。
It is honestly unnecessary for Members to wear tainted spectacles and perceive our proposal of conducting an inquiry as a means of achieving political machination and taking political advantage
大家可以看到，帳委會兩年前的調查亦有助廉署提高內部監控。
Members can see for themselves how the PAC inquiry two years ago has helped ICAC enhance its internal control
過去數年來，特區政府及廉署內部皆出現了很多不尋常的情況，尤其是前政務司司長許仕仁被控貪污，而且是成功檢控。
Over the past few years many abnormalities have taken place in the SAR Government and ICAC . One particular example is that former Chief Secretary for Administration Rafael HUI was charged with bribery and he was successfully prosecuted
我們沒有政治圖謀，只是希望幫助這間機構，看看出現甚麼問題。
We do not have any political intention . We only want to help this organization find out its problems
在廉署的43年歷史中，立法會曾多少次引用《立法會條例》進行調查呢？
Throughout the 43 years of ICACs history how many times has the Legislative Council invoked the Legislative Council Ordinance to conduct an inquiry?
在引用《條例》調查政府機構時，專責委員會會舉行公開會議，委員可能會取得很多政府文件，但調查手法可以十分靈活，可以舉行閉門會議，而對於獲取的文件，委員也可以決定無需向公眾公開。
A select committee set up under the Ordinance to inquire into a government body will hold public hearings and its members may have access to many government papers . But it may adopt a flexible approach in the sense that it may hold closed meetings and its members may decide that the papers they obtain are not to be disclosed to the public
我們可以靈活處理眾多敏感問題，問題是議員是否熱心和有誠意做好這項調查。
We can deal with many sensitive issues under a flexible approach . All will just depend on whether Members have the enthusiasm or sincerity to bring an inquiry to satisfactory completion
在我們的核心價值中，除廉潔外，法治亦受到很大衝擊。
Apart from probity the rule of law in our core values has also been dealt a severe blow
一切都是源於完全缺乏民意監察的權力而來。
All problems actually stem from a kind of authority that is not subject to any monitoring by public opinions
在那一刻，監誓人即主席你所作出的裁決，會否令其他議員因不信奉其宣誓當中......
In that case will the oath administrator that is you President rule that since some Members do not really believe in the content of the oath on
我回到我的主題上，主席，你先聽我說，這15分鐘你必須忍耐忍耐。
Let me return to my main point . President please listen to me first . You must be patient with me in these 15 minutes of my speaking time