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那便是因為他們要指鹿為馬，將這件事說成是因為梁國雄議員在 議事廳外發表了一些言論引起的......
That is because they wish to call a stag a horse and present a picture as if the incident was caused by certain remarks made by Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung outside this Chamber But he did make some remarks outside this Chamber as in the case of Mr WONG Kwok - hing a former Legislative Council Member who made some overly improper remarks when he was locking horns with a consortium
我完全無法接受反對派議員將這件事無限擴大，誤導市民，指我們現在討論的，是要剝奪立法會議員在議會內的發言權，我真的認為不是這樣。
I find it totally unacceptable for the opposition Members to overplay this incident and mislead the public by saying that the present discussion is on depriving Members of their right to speak in this Council . I truly think this is not the case . I think they should not say so
我真的認為他們不應該這樣說，他們理應實事求是，不要因為當反對派過了火，明明是有道理的，他們應該知道真的不可能不知道，每位議員都要填寫表格，那是公平、公正的，而且過往亦有議員因為雞毛蒜皮的事被調查。
They should call a spade a spade and should not be over the top even though they belong to the opposition camp . It is clearly reasonable and they should be well aware of that . As a matter of fact it is impossible that they do not know as every Member has to fill out the form
行政當局今天每每利用司法程序繞過立法會，甚至駕馭立法會，最近"689"梁振英透過律政司司長，表示要就劉小麗議員宣誓一事展開訴訟，已是一個非常清楚的例子。
The executive authorities are now trying in every way to bypass or even control the Legislative Council with judicial procedures and a very clear example to illustrate this point is 689 LEUNG Chun - yings recent attempt through the Secretary for Justice to take legal action against the affirmation subscribed by Dr LAU Siu - lai
律政司和政府是利用司法程序，侵犯立法會獨特而受到保護的權力。
The Department of Justice and the Government are using judicial procedures to encroach on the unique and protected powers of the Legislative Council
如果律政司或"689"梁振英是民主制度下的產物，我們還有少許理由相信他需要為其行為負責，因為他會受到所有市民、選民的檢視，亦會像民主國家般由大選決定其命運。
If the Department of Justice or 689 LEUNG Chun - ying is from a democratic system we will still have some reasons to believe that they would be held responsible for what they have done since they will be subjected to the supervision of the public and the voters and their fate will be determined by a general election as in all democratic countries
可惜，今天的政府、行政長官和律政司不需要面對這種後果，因他只是由1,200名選委，相當程度上並非由選民授權的選委選出。
But regrettably the Government today the Chief Executive and the Department of Justice will not need to be face such consequences since the Chief Executive is elected by only 1 200 members of the Election Committee and they do not have the voters mandate to a very large extent
大部分有此決定權的議員可能皆無需要向選民負責，而這裏大部分議員加入議會的目的，並非真的為了維護《立法會條例》賦予我們的最重要憲制權利，讓議員在立法會行使職責時可不受任何行政干擾。
It may be true that there is no need for the majority of Members who have the power to decide to be accountable to the voters and most of the Members here did not join this Council with the aim of safeguarding the important constitutional rights given to us under the Legislative Council Ordinance so that Members may execute their duties and responsibilities in this Council without any interference from the executive authorities
此例一開，我們可以預見無窮無盡的打壓異己行動，利用行政當局的權力進行政治打壓的行為，將會在未來一段時間湧現。
It sets a dangerous precedent . We can foresee that endless actions will be taken to suppress dissident views and the powers of the executive authorities will be used as tools for political suppression in the days to come
這是"一國兩制"、"港人治港"壽終正寢的開始，希望香港人明白我們今天遇到的困境。
This will be the beginning of the end of the principles of one country two systems and Hong Kong people administering Hong Kong . I hope Hong Kong people will understand the plight we are facing today
我謹此陳辭，支持姚松炎議員的議案。
With these remarks I support Dr YIU Chung - yims motion
主席，本會今天辯論由周浩鼎議員提出的"打擊'假難民'"議案。
President today the Council is debating the motion Combating bogus refugees moved by Mr Holden CHOW
如果有議員提出一項"打擊'蝗蟲'"議案，我同樣認為不應該接受。
If a Member proposes a motion of Combating locusts I will also consider that unacceptable
在酷刑聲請者中，當然會有害群之馬。
There are of course black sheep among the torture claimants
陳克勤議員不斷展示有關剪報。
Mr CHAN Hak - kan keeps showing those newspaper clippings
我明白這些標籤容易引起公眾共鳴，挑起憎恨，因為"假"字代表欺騙。
I understand such labels will easily strike a chord with the public and provoke hatred as the word bogus represents deceit
有些人甚至到清真寺拉橫額，真是匪夷所思。
Some people even unfurl banners at the mosque . This is simply inconceivable
主席，在11月29日，即這個星期二，也就是前天，20多名民主派議員去信主席，希望主席在今次會議先撤回這項議案，讓議員 有更多時間研究當中的理據。
President more than 20 Members belonging to the pro - democracy camp wrote to the President on 29 November hoping that he would withdraw this motion from this meeting so as to allow more time for Members to study the justifications put forth
可是，我希望大家明白，我們今天支持這項議案，提出辯論，便是希望立法會要真正經過討論，而不要單單說以往也是這樣做，既然沒有人提出意見，所以未來便要照着做。
However I hope Members will understand that we support the motion to initiate a debate on it purely because we want real discussions on the issue at this Council instead of following the old practice in the past when no one raised any objection
主席的回覆，是說律政司已就有關請求提供足夠資料，讓立法會考慮是否給予許可。
According to the Presidents reply the Department of Justice has provided this Council with sufficient information in relation to its request so as to facilitate the latters consideration of whether to grant special leave
我知道律政司與立法會秘書處已有一段時間的書信往來，但我想請每位議員撫心自問，即使是今天會發言的一群議員，他們也是在這數天才開始深入研究這項課題。
I know that the Department of Justice has been corresponding with the Legislative Council Secretariat for a certain period of time but I would like to ask each Member to be honest with themselves . Even the Members who have spoken on the motion today did not start probing into this issue until as recently as a few days ago
我們支持或簽署這封信，便是希望主席給予我們一些時間，亦希望主席會理解。
Our acts of supporting the motion and signing the letter are done in the hope that the President will understand our situation and thus give us some more time
當然，我亦會尊重主席的裁決，就是說要盡快把有關請求列入議程，但這事項的確在內務委員會上也是未有機會處理的。
Of course I will respect the Presidents ruling that is to say the request should be included in the meeting agenda as soon as possible . It is true that even the House Committee still do not have the opportunity to deal with the issue at its meeting
律政司過去曾多次根據《立法會條例》第7條申請特別許可，讓立法會人員可以在法庭作證。
In the past the Department of Justice repeatedly applied for special leave of the Legislative Council under section 7 of the Legislative Council Ordinance for officers of the Legislative Council to give evidence in court
可是，根據我這數天的研究所得，過去是從未試過允許立法會人員，就涉及刑事案件的現任立法會議員在立法會大會所作出的言論作證。
Nevertheless after doing some research in these few days I notice that no leave was ever granted in the past for officers of the Legislative Council to give evidence in the criminal proceedings instituted against any Legislative Council Member in office in respect of matters said before the Legislative Council
所以，這也是一次重要先例，而且政府提出的理據亦很薄弱，甚至前後矛盾。
Hence this will set a significant precedent . Moreover the justifications produced by the Government are rather weak and even contradicting
我反覆看過這封信，也不明白它的邏輯為何。
I have read the letter time and again but still cannot make sense of its logic
所以，在欠缺理據下，我是支持姚松炎議員今天提出拒絕許可的議案的。
Therefore I support todays motion moved by Dr YIU Chung - yim to reject the Governments request for leave in the absence of a sound justification
由此可見，在過去的案例中，也是不涉及立法會職員就現任議員在會議上所作出的言論作證，而且全部案例也有清晰控制。
The above tells us that cases in the past involved no instances of staff of the Legislative Council giving evidence in respect of the matters said at meetings by any Members in office and that all cases are under the control of a clear system
可是，在律政司就今次申請而向我們提供的文件中，當局就梁國雄議員在立法會會議的發言傳召相關秘書處人員作證的做法，便是把仍是立法會議員的人的發言用作呈堂證供，可能會令《立法會條例》給予議員的發言免責保障變質。
We learn from the papers provided to this Council by the Department of Justice in association with its current application for special leave that the latter wants to summon officers of the Legislative Council Secretariat concerned to give evidence in respect of the matters said by Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung at meetings of this Council or its panelscommittees
就着會否損害《立法會條例》給予議員的保障這點，律政司在給予立法會的文件中曾多次企圖安撫議員，指被告人的言論並非控方的訴訟因由，亦非構成刑事責任的依據，被告人亦不會就其在立法會會議程序中的言論承受任何刑事責任。
By doing so however the matters said by an incumbent Member of the Legislative Council will be produced in court as evidence possibly causing a change in the nature of the immunity conferred upon Members of this Council by the Ordinance . Concerning whether the immunity conferred upon Members by the Ordinance will be undermined the Department of Justice made several attempts to pacify Members in its paper provided to this Council saying that the words said by the defendant are not the cause of prosecution action or the foundation of criminality liability and he is not exposed to any criminal liability in respect of what he said in Legislative Council proceedings
由此可見，當局取得了會議紀錄，並找來立法會職員證明紀錄屬實，實際上，便是希望令這些理應受《立法會條例》保障的議員所發表的言論，成為該名議員的罪證。
That is to say the authorities request for records of proceedingsminutes of meetings of the Legislative Council and ask the staff of the Legislative Council to give evidence for verifying the veracity of such documents in hopes of adducing the matters said as evidence of the fact that such statements were made by the Member in question who is supposed to be protected by the Ordinance
如果議員的言論最終成為罪證，則《立法會條例》的保障便形同虛設。
If the matters said by the Member is finally adduced as evidence of the offence then the protection provided under the Ordinance will be meaningless
所以，如果我們讓此先例一開，任何議員不止今次的梁國雄議員未來任何一名立法會議員在會議上發表的言論，亦可能會面對同樣挑戰。
Therefore if we allow this to happen it will set a precedent that―not only for Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung of this case―the words said by any Member at meetings of this Council in the future may face the same challenge
如果有議員在立法會上，例如呼籲市民進行公民抗命，而他日後又參與了該次公民抗命行動，當局是否可以再次引用第7條，申請立法會職員就議員呼籲市民進行公民抗命的言論作證呢？
If a Member at this Council say calls on the public to stage a civil disobedience movement who does participate in that movement one day then can the Government invoke once again section 7 to apply for special leave for staff of the Legislative Council to give evidence in respect of the Members speeches made to appeal to the public for staging the civil disobedience movement?
這樣便會令議員的言論成為重要證據。
By doing so the matters said by the Member will become a key evidence
本來，如果議員參與這個活動，法官只能裁定他參與一個未經批准的集會。
Originally the judge will only rule that the Member has participated in an unauthorized assembly if he has taken part in that movement
但是，如果因為這些言論，令法院可以裁定議員策劃和發起未經批准的集會，是不是可以這樣做呢？
However if the Court can rule that the Member has planned and initiated an unauthorized assembly based on what he has said will this be acceptable?
因此，我們認為，任由立法會秘書處就現任議員過去在議會所作出的言論作證，是後患無窮的。
Therefore we are of the view that allowing the staff of the Legislative Council Secretariat to give evidence in respect of matters previously said by incumbent Members will invite endless trouble
我知道政府當局在9月14日已經提出要求，在9月14日至11月28日期間，我曾翻查紀錄，發現議員並未獲提供政府提出這個特別許可的相關資料。
I know the Government has made the request on 14 September but after checking the records I find that during the period from 14 September to 28 November this year Members were not provided with any relevant information concerning the Governments request for special leave during the period from 14 September to 28 November this year
換言之，這兩個月內只是秘書處和政府的書信來往，我們毫不知情，亦沒有參與討論。
In other words only the Legislative Council Secretariat was corresponding with the Government during these two months . We were all kept in the dark then without taking part in any discussions in relation to that
說回這封信，我最不明白的地方是，信裏面說，"指明文件將被用來證明相關的議會程序曾經進行，以及被告人曾經參與該等程序"。
Referring back to the letter the most inexplicable part to me is as follows The specified documents will be used to prove that the relevant parliamentary proceedings took place and that the Defendant participated in the proceedings
今天發言的很多位議員也曾經說過，這個會議有召開，梁國雄議員曾經參與過。
Actually according to those Members having spoken today the meeting did have taken place and was attended by Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung
"控方並非試圖懷疑或質疑相關的會議過程紀錄或報告所記錄被告人發出的任何言論的真實性或適當性。
The Prosecution is not seeking to question or challenge the veracity or propriety of anything said by the Defendant as recorded in the relevant records of proceedings or reports
控方只是尋求援引該等文件為證據，以證明相關陳述乃由被告人作出"。
Rather the Prosecution is seeking to adduce the documents as evidence of the fact that such statements were made by the Defendant
接着，就是我剛才引用過一次的這句，"有關不當行為的指控，涉及被告人沒有申報或披露有關收款，或隱瞞有關收款。
What follows is the sentence which I have quoted once just now The allegation of impropriety relates to his failure to declare or disclose or concealment of the receipt in question
被告人的言論並非控方的訴訟因由，亦非構成刑事責任的依據，而被告人也不會就其在立法會會議程序中的言論承擔任何刑事責任"，這跟他在同一封信中說提出申請的理由之間存在很多矛盾。
The words said by the Defendant are not the cause of prosecution action or the foundation of criminality liability and he is not exposed to any criminal liability in respect of what he said in LegCo proceedings
他這樣說，"控方認為，五名立法會人員提供的證據以及下表的指明文件，對證明公職人員行為失當罪是必需的，該等證據可證明：1被告人知悉對立法會議員施加的相關申報或披露利益的要求；2他身為立法會議員，故意及蓄意作出失當行為；以及3他的失當行為屬於嚴重而並非微不足道"。
This greatly contradicts the reasons for making the application as provided in the same letter The evidence from the five officers of LegCo and the documents specified in the table below are considered as necessary for the Prosecution to substantiate the offence of MIPO [Misconduct in Public Office] by proving that 1 the Defendant knew about the requirements on declaration or disclosure of interests imposed on LegCo Members; 2 the willfully and intentionally misconducted himself as a LegCo Member; and 3 his misconduct was serious but not trivial . Please compare the reasons given for their making the application with their remarks made later in an attempt to ease Members mind
剛才很多議員說，如果要證明梁國雄議員有出席過，很簡單，控辯雙方可以有一個事實共識，你問梁國雄議員，他亦不會否認他曾出席過這些會議。所以，我說，最後你要取這些文件呈堂，對整個案情的影響未必很大，以及究竟要索取多少份文件？
Many Members have said just now that proving Mr LEUNG Kwok - hungs attendance at those meetings is a very simple thing provided that there is a consensus between the prosecution and the defence over the facts
也許反過來說，不是予取予攜，任由律政司要求索取多少份他要100份、要50份，也都給他最後，現在剩下12份。
Speaking reversely do not take everything for granted . Not that the Department of Justice can always get everything at its request say 100 or 50 documents―well 12 documents are all that it requests at last
但是，各位議員，或者建制派議員，你們曾否研究這是否必須，是否過多呢？
But Honourable Members or pro - establishment Members have you ever considered if there is such a need and whether the amount requested is excessive?
雖然我知道你們沒有甚麼興趣辯論這個題目，大不了說我們護短，偏袒"長毛"，這些我們剛才已說過，與這事的案情無關，而是律政司這個動作是否必要，以及有否違反《立法會條例》，還有就是大家都知道的《基本法》 第七十七條，"香港特別行政區立法會議員在立法會的會議上發言，不受法律追究"，這裏有沒有人可以向我釋法，讓我知道不受法律追究的範疇為何。
We have talked about that just now which is irrelevant to the case in question . Now the point is about whether the request made by the Department of Justice is necessary and whether its act has contravened the Ordinance and Article 77 of the Basic Law which is well - known to all of us Members of the Legislative Council of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall be immune from legal action in respect of their statements at meetings of the Council . Will anyone here please help me with the interpretation of this Article so that I will have the basic idea about how far a Member is immune from legal action
我很希望建制派議員，如果你未能想通或不懂回答的話，倒不如離開或投棄權票，而不要盲目說過去這樣做，我們這次都應該過去沒有人提出質疑，過去大家可能覺得理所當然，覺得無傷大雅，為配合法庭而盡量合作，不要讓人覺得立法會護短。
I earnestly hope that you pro - establishment Members had better leave or abstain from voting if you cannot figure out the issue or do not know how to respond . Never say that we should do the same in the usual way without thinking carefully―no one ever raised any doubt in the past probably because people thought that it was natural to be cooperative and to furnish whatever information the Court asked for since that would not do any harm and we should avoid giving the impression that the Legislative Council tended to defend the wrongdoer
但是，今天我們提出這個討論，亦是為立此存照，即使明知表決不一定成功......我謹此陳辭，多謝。
That we initiate the discussion today is however for record purpose even though we are well aware that the voting result may not be in our favour I so submit thank you
我們受到《立法會條例》保護，應該是沒有問題的。
We are protected by the Legislative Council Ordinance so there should be no problems
《基本法》說明行政長官負責在香港實施《基本法》，而《基本法》第一條訂明，香港是中國不能分割的一部分。
Basic Law explains that the Chief Executive is responsible for implementing Basic Law in Hong Kong and Article 1 of the Basic Law states that Hong Kong is an inalienable part of China
譚志源昨天只是重申，議員在議會內的發言可獲《條例》保護。
Yesterday Raymond TAM only reiterated that Members comments in the Council would be protected by the Ordinance
代理主席，姚松炎議員就《議事規則》第902條提出的議案，我覺得這並不是一件政治事件，很多事情其實都可以用法律、法治精神，以及《議事規則》及議會原則來解決。
Deputy President in my opinion the motion moved under Rule 902 of the Rules of Procedure by Dr YIU Chung - yim is not political in nature . In fact many matters can be settled by the law or the spirit of the rule of law as well as the Rules of Procedure and the principles adopted by this Council
代理主席，我首先要澄清一點，這次是一件關乎立法會的既有行事方式、尊嚴、獨立及原則的事情，與政治取態扯不上關係。
Deputy President first of all I wish to clarify one point . The request is about the established practices of the Legislative Council as well as its dignity independence and principles . It has nothing to do with our political stance
即使今次律政司司長要求索取的文件關乎一位非建制派議員的行為，我都會盡我所能反對律政司的這個行動。
Even if the documents requested by the Secretary for Justice concern the conduct of a non - establishment Member I will still try my very best to turn down the Secretarys request
他在9月14日的信件中，臚列了7位立法會同事，要求他們出庭作證。
In the letter dated 14 September he listed seven Legislative Council officers and requested them to give evidence in court
此外，他亦在信中列出126份不同的文件，要求秘書長提供這些文件。
Moreover in the letter he also listed 126 different documents and requested the Secretary General to provide these documents
其實，秘書長已在10月18日以書面回覆律政司司長，而我覺得秘書長陳維安先生這封信的內容寫得非常好，亦非常有理據。
Actually the Secretary General replied the Secretary for Justice in writing on 18 October and in my opinion Secretary General Kenneth CHEN has written an excellent and well - justified letter
剛才姚松炎議員談及《立法會條例》第3及4條的保障，我不再詳細複述，但為了這項討論起見，我再作簡單複述。
Just now Dr YIU Chung - yim already talked about the protection provided for under sections 3 and 4 of the Legislative Council Ordinance . I will not go into the details again but I will talk about them briefly for the sake of this discussion
第3條其實是保護議員在立法會所有委員會及議事程序中的言論及辯論自由，而這種言論及辯論自由不得在任何法院或立法會以外的任何地方受到質疑。
Section 3 actually seeks to protect the freedom of speech and debate of Members in all committees and proceedings of the Legislative Council and such freedom of speech and debate shall not be liable to be questioned in any court or place outside the Council
這是對言論自由的保障。
This provision seeks to protect freedom of speech
陳維安秘書長亦要求律政司司長給予足夠理由，說明為何他為了一件公 職人員行為失當的事件，竟然要求看126份文件，亦要傳召7位證人。
Secretary General Kenneth CHEN also asks the Secretary for Justice to provide the supporting reasons as to why he needs to study the 126 specified documents and summon seven witnesses to testify for an incident concerning a charge of Misconduct in Public Office
此要求是否過火、不合適、不對稱呢？
He asks whether it is an inappropriate and unbalanced request
律政司司長在2016年10月18日亦以書面回覆陳維安秘書長。
The Secretary for Justice gave a written reply to Secretary General Kenneth CHEN on 18 October 2016
我首先要說，律政司司長在信中已經大量縮減他要看的文件。
The first thing I wish to point out is that in his reply the Secretary for Justice has substantially lowered the number of documents he requests to see
但是，我發覺律政司司長在他的回覆中有一點很重要的地方，是前後矛盾的。
But I notice one very important point in his reply which is contradictory to what he said previously
剛才姚松炎議員在他的陳辭中提到，律政司司長在這封信中提出他要求提供這些文件的原因，而立法會秘書亦代立法會主席，於2016年11月30日回覆我們民主派議員，有關律政司司長在10月18日的信件中陳述他需要這些文件的理由。
Just now Dr YIU Chung - yim mentioned the reasons stated by the Secretary for Justice in this letter for requesting the documents; and the Clerk to the Legislative Council also gave a reply to us the democratic Members on behalf of the President on 30 November 2016 relaying the reasons for requesting the documents stated by the Secretary for Justice in his letter dated 18 October
他表示："指明文件只可以符合法定條文的方式及按照涉及議會特權的案例所建立的原則，在法庭上使用。
He says [T]he documents specified in the request may only be used in court in a manner consistent with the statutory provisions in light of the principles developed in decided cases governing parliamentary privilege
"當然，這件是法庭要處理的事件。
And this is certainly something the court needs to deal with
第二，律政司司長認為，"指明文件的擬定用途並無違反第3及第4條的規定。
Secondly the Secretary for Justice considers that sections 3 and 4 are not infringed as far as the intended use of the specified documents is concerned . The specified documents will be used to prove that the relevant parliamentary proceedings took place . This is the first point
律政司司長認為，"指明文件的擬定用途並無違反第3及第4條的規定"，這正正是立法會主席須為立法會把關的一個重點。
The Secretary for Justice considers that section 3 and 4 are not infringed as far as the intended use of the specified documents is concerned . This is precisely the key point that the President of the Legislative Council has to defend for this Council
代理主席也知道，在宣誓事件上，立法會主席進退失據，做法為人詬病，他失去了作為主席的功能。
Deputy President as you may be aware the President of the Legislative Council was at a loss in the oath - taking incident . His decisions were criticized and he has lost his function as President
在此事件上，我要表明，我並非要為梁國雄議員辯護，如果任何一位議員，無論是建制派或其他派別議員，在這議會上遭受同樣對待，我都一定會根據這個法律原則替他們發聲。
Regarding this matter I wish to make it clear that I am not defending Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung . I will speak out for any Member whether pro - establishment or of other camps using the same legal principles if he is subject to the same treatment in this Council
這件事並非政治事件，而是牽涉法治及法理的事件。
This is not a political incident . It is about the rule of law and the legal principles
代理主席，我們決不能如此簡單便把文件交給律政司司長，如果要提交，我們必須要考慮究竟要提供多少份文件，以及哪種類的文件可以提供。
This point is very clear . Deputy President we definitely cannot hand over these documents so easily to the Secretary for Justice . If we are to provide those documents we must consider how many of the specified documents should be provided and the types of documents to be provided
如果有問題，請主席徵詢法律意見，而不是靠人多人少舉手來決定我們要提供這些文件，因為立法會的運作、尊嚴和功能確實會被這次事件大大影響。
If we are unsure whether we should provide those documents would the President please seek legal advice rather than deciding it by a simple show of hands because the operation dignity and functions of the Legislative Council will be seriously undermined by this incident
在今次的難民問題上，建制派同事說來說去也只是一個論點，就是指難民會為香港帶來沉重社會負擔。
With regard to the refugee problem under discussion there is only one point in the argument presented by colleagues from the pro - establishment camp no matter how they put it and that is the problem of refugees will create a heavy social burden for Hong Kong
當然，兩個問題是不能比較的，因為我認為就着"假難民"或難民問題，其實是更加簡單易明。
Actually we cannot compare the two issues directly because in my opinion the problem of bogus refugees or refugees is in fact more simple and easier to understand
因為它本身既是行政問題、程序問題，但同時也是一個政治問題。
It is because the problem itself is an administrative issue a procedural matter and also a political problem
如果想解決這一項行政問題，只要增加成本，一切問題都可以解決，包括增加人手、減省工序和簡約審批機制，就可以完全及簡單地解決問題，但政府卻沒有這樣做，原因只有2字懶散。
In order to tackle this administrative issue we can simply increase the administrative costs and have all problems resolved . Consideration can be given to adopting such measures as introducing manpower increase re - engineering procedures and streamlining the screening mechanism in order to completely resolve the problem in a simple manner . However the Government has failed to do so and this can only be attributed to its tardiness
第一，很多事件的發生，可能也與警察有關，相信大家也記得，例如南亞水鳥拳事件，就可看到南亞 裔人士在香港是如此橫行，是在深夜時分，有片段拍攝到他們於元朗毆打香港警員，而給予香港大眾的觀感，也是認為香港警察文也不行、武也不行。
First of all the way how police officers handle a case may probably be the cause of disputes . As all of us may recall the incident of South Asian martial art has revealed how badly certain South Asian people behaved in Hong Kong . In that incident a video footage taken late at night showed that a police officer had been beaten up by South Asian people in Yuen Long and it gave the general public the impression that our police officers could do nothing when they were confronted by such villains
另一方面，入境事務處同事在面對這些個案時，由於語言不通、文化不通，他們又該怎辦呢？
On the other hand what can staff members of the Immigration Department ImmD do with such cases when they do not speak the same language and share the same culture as the claimants?