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關於這個發展計劃，當時傳媒已經作全面公開，我更記得當時傳媒曾向兩名民主黨的當區議員提問，他們怎樣回應？
Regarding this development plan the media had disclosed all the information at that time . I still recall that the media asked two Yuen Long District Council members of the Democratic Party about their views on the plan . How did they respond?
他們表示歡迎發展，不過，希望設計上能更符合朗屏邨居民的要求，減少對他們的影響，所以，他們當時沒有反對。
They welcomed the housing development but hoped that the design could cater for the needs of residents in Long Ping Estate and reduce the impact on them . At that time they did not oppose the development
及後在2016年，當朱凱廸議員對這方面提出一些質疑後，他們竟然改口，說政府當時所謂"摸底"問他們時，只提及第1期計劃，他們並不知道有第2期和第3期計劃。
Later in 2016 when Mr CHU Hoi - dick raised some queries about the development they abruptly changed their stance and said that when the Government sought their views in the so - called soft lobbying session it only mentioned Phase 1 and they did not know the existence of Phases 2 and 3
直至目前為止，就着橫洲發展計劃，我對政府的賠償和安置很有意見，因為政府過去對於收地賠償，甚至安置的做法較為靈活，而且周到。
Up to this moment regarding the Wang Chau development plan I am dissatisfied with the compensation and rehousing arrangement of the Government . In the past the Government was more flexible in providing compensation for land resumption and making rehousing arrangement and it was also more considerate and attentive
我希望朱凱廸議員能夠檢討一下，今次的做法實在並不理想。
This is a rather bad practice . I hope Mr CHU Hoi - dick can review and reflect . His practice this time is indeed far from ideal
代理主席，我謹此陳辭，反對朱凱廸議員提出的議案。
Deputy President I so submit and oppose the motion moved by Mr CHU Hoi - dick
主席，我支持朱凱廸議員的議案。議案的內容是政府必須就新世界發展有限公司於改劃橫洲公共房屋發展計劃相鄰地段項目時，涉嫌挪用限閱資料之過程、責任、跟進處理及懲處事宜，前來本會作證及提供證據，並出示所有相關文件。他的目的是希望本會能夠就這事件作出全面的跟進和調查。
President I support Mr CHU Hoi - dicks motion which seeks to oblige the Government to appear before this Council to testify or give evidence and to produce all relevant documents in relation to the happenings culpability follow - up actions and punitive matters pertaining to the alleged illegal use of restricted information by the New World Development Company Limited NWD during its application for rezoning a land lot near the site of the Public Housing Development Plan at Wang Chau in the hope that this Council can follow up and investigate this incident in a comprehensive manner
所以，我不想花太多時間說奧雅納方面的問題。
Hence I will not spend too much time discussing the issues pertaining to Arup
政府的確令人有這種感覺，但事實是否這樣呢？
The Government has indeed given people such an impression but is it really the case?
我覺得在這事件上，政府有責任向我們交代會如何處理，這也是我支持朱凱廸議員這項議案的原因。
In my opinion the Government is obliged to explain to us how it will deal with the incident . This is the reason why I support this motion proposed by Mr CHU Hoi - dick
正如我剛才說，議案不是針對顧問公司，而是針對聘用這間顧問公司的發展商，即新世界。
As I said just now the motion pinpoints the developer NWD which commissioned the consultancy rather than the firm itself
為甚麼朱凱廸議員要求局長向本會作出交代呢？
Why did Mr CHU Hoi - dick request that the Secretary give an account to this Council?
不過，我們知道政府其後發出聲明，表示政府多個部門均不同意這項計劃，例如房屋署表示項目旁邊的橫洲公營房屋發展的原有道路設計沒有考慮私人發展，而政府亦沒有計劃將這道路伸延至私人發展地盤，如果私人發展項目將使用這道路的話，便變相侵佔公營房屋的發展。
For instance the Housing Department HD indicated that the original road design for the Public Housing Development Plan at Wang Chau which is adjacent to the development project had not taken into account private development . Neither has the Government had any plan to extend this road to the private development site . The private development project will be deemed to have indirectly encroached on public housing development should this road be used
規劃署亦表示，新世界未能證明改劃用途後不會帶來交通和排水方面的影響，所以不支持這項申請。
The Planning Department PlanD has also indicated that it does not support the application because of the failure of NWD to demonstrate that rezoning will not bring about traffic and drainage implications
主席，你可以看到，其實政府是避重就輕，把不批准新世界這項申請的原因輕描淡寫，向公眾提出這些所謂的理據。
President you can see that the Government is actually evading the key issues by understating the reasons for not approving the application lodged by NWD and presenting these so - called justifications to the public
原因很簡單，便是因為新聞傳媒早已經把事件披露出來，指出發展商聘用了一間顧問公司，而這間顧問公司卻違規做出不合法的行為。
It is simply because the incident was disclosed by the news media a long time ago pointing out that the developer had commissioned a consultancy which had flouted the rules by committing unlawful acts
因此，政府 便想輕描淡寫，遏止這件事惡化下去，而唯一的出路便是否決這項計劃，從而避免這事件越鬧越大。
As such the Government has sought to understate the matter to prevent it from worsening . The only way out is to veto this plan to prevent the incident from becoming increasingly worse
我覺得這做法並不公道、不公正，亦不公平，因為我覺得發展商如果明知故犯，採用這些資料作出申請的話，為甚麼政府不予追究？
I find this approach unjust impartial and unfair . Why did the Government not pursue the matter should the developer knowingly commit the offence by using such information in the application lodged?
政府沒有交代這一點。
The Government has not said anything about this
主席，為何我認為這問題必須處理呢？
President why do I consider it necessary to deal with this issue?
事情到了這地步，我覺得很重要的一點是，政府究竟是否知情？
Given that the matters have come to this pass this question is considered by me to be the most important Is the Government in the know?
在被揭發挪用數據的眾多項目當中，包括一個計劃在古洞南興建的項目，原來數年前城規會審理該項申請時，運輸署已經直言顧問公司提交的交通評估報告引用了該份人口及就業數據資料。
Among the numerous projects exposed to involve the illegal use of data including a planned construction project to be carried out at Kwu Tung South it turned out that when the application was examined by TPB a couple of years ago the Transport Department admitted frankly that data from TPEDM were quoted in the traffic assessment report submitted by the consultancy
這反映當局根本一早便知道有人挪用這些數據，但多年來沒有認真處理，即代表變相默許他們採用數據。
This reflected the authorities already knew a long time ago the illegal use of such data but failed to take serious actions over the years meaning that tacit consent was given de facto to the use of such data
如今事情被揭發，還欲蓋彌彰，意圖掩飾過去曾有人挪用資料的事實。
Now that the incident has been uncovered the authorities attempt to cover up a misdeed in an attempt to conceal the illegal use of the information only serves to attract more attention to it
所以，究竟當局在處理這事情上是懶散、無能，抑或是有人刻意"放生"或隱瞞？
Hence are the authorities being lazy or incompetent in dealing with this issue? . Or are some people deliberately letting someone off the hook or covering up?
當中有沒有涉及利益輸送？
Is any transfer of benefits involved therein?
有沒有相關部門或高層人員需要為這些事件問責？
Should any relevant departments or senior staff be held accountable for such incidents?
這事已被揭發一段長時 間，當中重重疑點至今仍未得到滿意解答和交代，如此嚴重的事件是否便任由它不了了之？
Although this incident was exposed a long period of time ago the many inconsistencies therein have yet to be resolved and accounted for satisfactorily . Should such a serious incident be left unsettled?
我十分擔憂的是，雖然我們不希望這制度繼續墮落下去，但我們彷彿看到這制度不斷墮落。
I feel gravely concerned that although we do not wish to see this system to continue to degenerate we appear to see this happening
是否沒有任何應該改善的地方？
Are there no more areas that warrant improvement?
今次政府當局除了只針對這間公司作出懲處，而且是絕對輕微的懲處之外，對於如何以治本不治標的方法或透過更深入檢視處理問題方面，更是完全交白卷，令公眾無法得悉政府如何處理這些問題。
This time around the Administration has merely taken punitive action against this firm . Besides taking absolutely weak punitive action it has completely failed to deliver when it comes to administering a permanent cure or conducting a more in - depth review in addressing problems such that there is no way for the public to learn how the Government will address these problems
就今次事件，我真的覺得政府有責任前來立法會清楚交代如何處理這事件。
Insofar as this incident is concerned I really think that the Government is obliged to attend before this Council to explain how to deal with it
此外，過去一直以來，政府在這事件上的相關文件、通訊和曾作出的接觸的內容，是否也應向我們作出詳細交代，讓我們清楚了解事件，從而進行制度上的改革？
Besides should the Government not also give a detailed account of the documents communication and details of contacts already made in relation to this incident so as to give us a clear understanding of the incident with a view to reforming the system?
主席，我很期望朱凱廸議員這項議案獲得通過，因為我們不是針對某一事件，而是針對制度；不是針對某位官員，而是着眼整個部門的運作。
President I very much hope that this motion proposed by Mr CHU Hoi - dick can be passed because we are pinpointing the system rather than a single incident and the operation of an entire department rather than an official
在2016年12月23日，前行政長官梁振英和前政務司司長林鄭月娥在北京與故宮博物院簽訂《合作備忘錄》，特區政府選址西九文化區興建香港故宮文化博物館，長期展出故宮珍藏。
On 23 December 2016 former Chief Executive LEUNG Chun - ying and former Chief Secretary for Administration Carrie LAM signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the Beijing Palace Museum in Beijing on the development of the Hong Kong Palace Museum HKPM in the West Kowloon Cultural District WKCD a site selected by the HKSAR Government to showcase exquisite collections of the Palace Museum on a long - term basis
故宮館佔地1萬平方米，計劃於2022年落成。
HKPM which will have a site footprint of 10 000 sq m is planned to be completed by 2022
可是，政府卻未有提及建館所需的建築費用，僅表示香港賽馬會慈善信託基金已同意捐贈35億元，以資助故宮館的建造、設計及籌備展覽等費用。
However the Government did not mentioned the building costs required and only said that the Hong Kong Jockey Club HKJC Charities Trust agreed to sponsor 3.5 billion to fund the costs of building and designing HKPM and the preparatory work for staging its exhibitions etc
當局指，由於故宮館並非故宮在香港設置的分館，所以故宮不會參與故宮館的日常運作，西九文化區管理局會全權負責故宮館的興建、管理和營運，亦會成立一間由西九管理局董事局全資擁有的附屬公司。
The authorities also pointed out that since HKPM would not be a branch of the Beijing Palace Museum the Beijing Palace Museum would not participate in the daily operation of HKPM . The West Kowloon Cultural District Authority WKCDA would be solely responsible for building managing and operating HKPM and a wholly - owned subsidiary company would be set up under the WKCDA Board
由於計劃涉及西九文化區用途及工程的程序公義問題，政府有責任向公眾清楚交代事件的來龍去脈，並公開所有相關文件。
Since the HKPM project concerns the land use of WKCD and procedural justice of projects the Government has a duty to clearly explain the details to the public and produce all relevant documents
《西九文化區管理局條例》第19條訂明，西九管理局須就發展或營運文化設施的事宜，"在該局認為適當的時間，藉該局認為適當的方式，諮詢公眾"，但政府卻在未經諮詢立法會及公眾的情況下"拍板"興建故宮館，明顯違反了程序公義。
Section 19 of the West Kowloon Cultural District Authority Ordinance provides that WKCDA shall in relation to matters concerning the development or operation of arts and cultural facilities consult the public at such time and in such manner as it considers appropriate . As the Government endorsed the proposal to build HKPM before consulting the Legislative Council and the public it has clearly contravened the rules of procedural justice
林鄭月娥當時回應指出，故宮館選址西九文化區，屬於一項文化設施，故不涉及改變土地規劃用途及城市規劃程序。
Carrie LAM responded that as HKPM to be built in WKCD was a cultural facility the issue of changing the planned land use of the site and the procedures of town planning did not exist
同時，林鄭月娥亦指出故宮的魅力沒有人能夠抗拒，加上項目涉及中央政府、國家文化部及故宮博物院等，如諮詢期間出現反對聲音，便會相當尷尬。
She also pointed out that no one could resist the attraction of the Palace Museum . Furthermore as the project involved the Central Government the Ministry of Culture of the country and the Beijing Palace Museum etc it would be very embarrassing if there were dissenting voices during the consultation
以擔心出現反對聲音為由直接拒絕諮詢，換言之，只要不諮詢便不存在反對聲音。
Public consultation was flatly rejected for fear of dissenting voices . In other words there would be no dissenting voices if consultation was not conducted
難怪政府未有就"一地兩檢"和國歌法等事宜進行諮詢，原來是怕反對聲音。
No wonder the Government has not conducted any consultation on issues such as the co - location arrangement and the National Anthem Law for it is afraid of dissenting voices
由此可見，主事的官員自把自為，視民意如糞土，表面說為了社會福祉，實際上只為討好北京。
This shows that the relevant public officers have acted arbitrarily and treated public opinion as dirt . They claim they are acting for the benefit of society but they are actually currying favour with Beijing
例如，多位本地文化人一直爭取在西九文化區興建文學館，以推廣香港文學創作、歷史和教育，以及支援本地作家。
For example a number of local cultural workers have been striving for the building of a literary centre in WKCD to promote the development of literary works history and education in Hong Kong and to support local writers
這些原本是相當有心思的建議，可惜爭取多年卻無功而還，反而突然出現故宮館項目，在極短時間內便"拍板"通過，令人質疑政府的目的是促進香港文化發展，還或只是想討好北京。
These thoughtful proposals have not been adopted after years of campaign but the HKPM project has suddenly been introduced and endorsed in no time . People wonder whether the purpose of the Government is to promote cultural development in Hong Kong or merely to curry favour with Beijing
因此，我支持議案第一點提出，"司長及常任秘書長須向本會提交所有與北京故宮博物館見面及商討有關在西九文化區興建香港故宮文化博物館事宜的文件，包括書信、資料文件和協議文件"。
Thus I support the first point stated in the motion that the Chief Secretary and the Permanent Secretary are required to produce all relevant documents regarding the meetings and discussions with the Beijing Palace Museum on the building of HKPM in WKCD including the letters information papers and agreement documents
過程中另一個重大爭議，就是項目未曾正式公開招標，便直接委託本地建築師嚴迅奇負責設計。
Another major point of contention is that the design of the project has been commissioned to Rocco YIM a local architect without going through the formal procedure of open tendering
眾所周知，西九管理局在未經招標的情況下，於2016年6月直接聘用建築師嚴迅奇負責設計，並向其支付450萬元顧問費，嚴迅奇須於同年11月完成故宮館草圖。
As we all know WKCDA directly commissioned Rocco YIM an architect to be responsible for the design in June 2016 without conducting any tender exercise . Rocco YIM was paid 4.5 million as consultancy fee and was required to complete a draft plan for HKPM in November of the same year
林鄭月娥承認，她親自接觸嚴迅奇，邀請他參與項目也是她的決定，指嚴迅奇是合適人選，並呼籲外界，特別是立法會不要把事件政治化。
Carrie LAM admitted that she herself approached Rocco YIM and it was her decision to invite him to participate in the project . She said that Rocco YIM was the right person and appealed to members of the public particularly Members of the Legislative Council not to politicize the issue
此外，自消息公布後，有建築師團體提出質疑，指世界各地的知名博物館，不論公營或私營，也會透過公開招標或比賽方式挑選合適設計。
Furthermore after release of the news some architectural bodies have raised doubts stating that it is a common practice for renowned museums in the world whether publicly or privately funded to select a suitable design through open tender or competition
我認為政府必須向公眾澄清和交代這一點。
I think the Government has to clarify and explain this point to the public
有見及此，我支持議案提出的第二點，向司長及常任秘書長提出要求，就西九管理局於2016年6月直接聘用許李嚴建築師事務所，以450萬元顧問費就用地發展提供前期顧問服務一事，向本會提交所有相關文件，包括書信、合約、會議紀錄及資料文件等。
For this reason I support the second point stated in the motion that the Chief Secretary and the Permanent Secretary are required to produce all relevant documents including the letters contracts minutes of meetings and information papers to this Council in connection with the direct appointment of ROCCO Design Architects Limited in June 2016 at the consultancy fee of 4.5 million to provide pre - development consultancy services
第三方面，就有關大型表演場地因興建故宮館而被犧牲的爭議，我認為政府需向我們提交部分文件。
Third regarding the dispute concerning building HKPM at the expense of a mega performance venue I think the Government has to produce some of the documents concerned
早在2008年，西九文化區原定計劃興建一個大型表演場地，以舉行大型娛樂節目及流行音樂會。
As early as 2008 it was planned that a mega performance venue would be built in WKCD to hold mega entertainment events and pop concerts
但是，在2016年9月1日，西九管理局放棄這項決定，而故宮館亦隨後公布。
However on 1 September 2016 WKCDA abandoned the plan and then the decision to build HKPM was announced
這項安排自然令人懷疑，大型表演場地是否為"讓路"予故宮館而被白白犧牲。
The arrangement naturally created doubts as to whether the proposed mega performance venue was sacrificed to give way to building HKPM
言下之意，這個決定考慮了顧問公司的意見，並非政府自把自為。
The implication was that the Government made the decision after considering the opinions of the consultants and it did not act arbitrarily
第一，時任政務司司長林鄭月娥於2016年5月，已經就故宮館項目接觸建築師嚴迅奇，以及諮詢西九董事局資深成員。
First back in May 2016 the then Chief Secretary Carrie LAM approached the architect Rocco YIM in relation to the HKPM project and consulted some senior members of WKCDA
由此可見，西九管理局董事局很可能是為了替興建故宮館開路，而擱置興建表演場地的計劃。
Thus WKCDA shelved the proposal on building a mega performance venue probably to make way for building HKPM
更重要的是，在顧問期即將完結之際，政府竟然向外公布，該場地將會興建新建築項目。
More importantly when the consultancy period almost ended the Government surprisingly announced that the site would be used for another new project
換言之，政府在決定這項用地發展項目時，根本沒有考慮顧問公司的意見。
Hence when the Government decided on the project to be developed on the site it simply had not considered the opinion of the consultant
儘管如何，整項安排耐人尋味。
The whole arrangement is puzzling
如果有，請政府向公眾擺出姿態，證明"真金不怕洪爐火"，交出報告供議員查閱。
If it had please produce the report for Members reference to prove that true gold stands the test of fire
我亦支持議案提出要求，政府須提交所有關於西九管理局於2015年10月成立5人核心小組就研究故宮館的可行性的文件和會議紀錄，以及核心小組於2016年諮詢西九管理局董事局3位資深成員的會議文件及紀錄。
I also support the demand in the motion requiring the Government to produce all documents and minutes of meetings regarding the five - member core team set up in October 2015 to explore the feasibility of building HKPM and to produce all meeting documents and minutes of meetings in connection with the consultation of three senior members of the WKCDA Board in 2016
日後的營運開支，究竟由哪一方負擔？
Who will pay the operating expenses of HKPM in the future?
我剛才曾作出批評，這項安排間接繞過立法會審議。
Just now I criticized that the Government had indirectly circumvented the scrutiny of the Legislative Council
雖然林鄭月娥強調，這做法並非繞過立法會，而是香港賽馬會願意斥資回饋社會。但是，這個項目由商議、落實、設計的撥款都是出人意表......
While Carrie LAM stressed that the Government had not circumvented the Legislative Council and HKJC was willing to make contributions to society the arrangement of the project from deliberation implementation to funding the design was surprising
過往西九文化區有多項大型建築，包括M+視覺文化博物館、戲曲中心、M+展亭等，建築設計均須經公眾諮詢收集意見，再選定最終的方案。
In the past proposals of building design of various large - scale developments in WKCD including M the Xiqu Centre and the M Pavilion etc . were finalized only after opinions were collected in public consultation
這不禁令人質疑，嚴迅奇包攬政府兩大文化地標的建設項目，當中是否涉及利益輸送？
One cannot help but question whether any transfer of interests is involved since Rocco YIM is responsible for both government projects of the two major cultural landmarks
西九文化區管理局發表聲明表示，嚴迅奇了解西九文化區的願景，其國際級的博物館設計及建築專業知識獲廣泛認同，加上他醉心中華文化，貢獻獲業界認同，因此直接委任是合適的安排。
WKCDA issued a press statement saying that Rocco YIM has a good understanding of the vision of WKCD; his expertise in designing world - class museums has gained wide acclaim; he has great interest in Chinese culture and his contributions have won acknowledgment from his peers . Hence direct appointment is an appropriate arrangement
世界各地知名的博物館，即使不是由政府出資，通常也會透過公開招標或比賽挑選合適的設計。
It is a common practice that renowned museums in the world even those not funded by the government will select their designers through open tender or competition
如政府的原意是給予本地專才機會，在設計當中融合本地元素，我當然歡迎之至，但為何不可以公開招標及徵求設計意念？
If the Governments intent was to offer the chance to local talent it could require the proposed design to incorporate local features . I would definitely welcome such an approach . Why did the Government not conduct an open tender exercise and invite design proposals?
故宮館是否一項政治工程，急於在2022年落成，為九七回歸25周年"贈慶"？
Is HKPM a political project which has to be completed by 2022 so that it can be presented as a gift to celebrate the 25 anniversary of the reunification of Hong Kong?
西九文化區佔地49公頃，自董建華年代以來，經過10多年規劃，曾進行多次諮詢及整體布局考慮。
WKCD covers an area of 49 hectares . Over a planning period of more than 10 years since TUNG Chee - hwas era various consultation exercises had been conducted and various proposals concerning the general layout had been considered
我剛才談到西九文化區的規劃原意。
I mentioned the planning intention of WKCD earlier
我支持索取的文件，正正關乎整個文化區的規劃原意。
I support the request for documents because they are relevant to the planning intention of WKCD as a whole
我剛才提到，西九文化區內，不論是戲曲中心、M+博物館或萬人表演場地，落實前均經過多番諮詢及討論。
As I said earlier proposals of building the Xiqu Centre M and a performance venue with a seating capacity of 10 000 were finalized after various consultations and discussions
說出剛才這番話的，正是本地的策展人香港中文大學文化管理碩士課程主任何慶基。
The above comment is actually made by a local curator―Prof Oscar HO Programme Director of the MA programme in Cultural Management of The Chinese University of Hong Kong
如貿然 加入新元素，必然會對整體形象或整個發展思維有所影響。
If new elements are arbitrarily included it will certainly affect the entire image of WKCD or the whole line of thought for its development
這種做法，莫說是對於官員，就連市民大眾也認為不可接受。
This practice is unacceptable even to the general public not to mention government officials
在今次事件中，他最為人詬病，因為他是其中一名"持份者"這是比較好聽的說法。
In this incident he has attracted great criticisms for he is one of the stakeholders―to put it in a nicer way
最可笑的是，當時......剛才同事好像沒有提及政府中至今仍然存在的土地供應督導委員會。
It was most ridiculous that at that time it seems that just now colleagues have not mentioned the Steering Committee on Land Supply which still exists within the Government
督導委員會由財政司司長領導，負責審視政府各部門牽涉土地供應的計劃，並須向財政司司長匯報土地供應的階段性進展。
The Steering Committee chaired by the Financial Secretary is tasked with examining plans that involve land supply in various government departments and is required to report to the Financial Secretary on the progress in land supply at various stages
其中一個主要原因是露天貨倉的經營者反對。
One main reason is the opposition from the operators of open storage areas
原來包括當日的屏山鄉鄉事委員會主席曾樹和先生。
It turns out that one of the operators is Mr TSANG Shu - wo chairman of the Ping Shan Rural Committee
面對曾先生及其他場主的壓力，政府便"跪低"，而13,000個公屋單位至今仍然音訊渺然，未有任何定案。
The Government bowed to the pressure from Mr TSANG and other operators and the timetable for building the remaining 13 000 public housing units is not unknown as a final decision is still pending
他們很多人更佔用官地。
Many of them have improperly occupied government land
代理主席，這些只應在電影情節才發生的事情，引起公眾或立法會質疑實屬正常，要局長前來立法會交代也很正常。
Deputy President as such events should only happen in movies it is perfectly normal that members of the public and Legislative Council Members have doubts and it is also normal to summon the Secretary to attend before the Legislative Council to give an explanation
我不知道我們的質疑最終能否水落石出，但這些質疑最少有一定基礎，而且是因為政府處理手法的不足而產生的。
I do not know whether our queries can eventually bring the whole matter to light but at least all our queries are well justified resulting from the inadequate handling of the matter by the Government
我希望局方可以認真回應朱凱廸議員的訴求，交出有關資料。
I hope the Bureau will seriously respond to Mr CHU Hoi - dicks appeal and provide the relevant information
我認為公眾有必要知道。
I think the public need to know
這宗事件雖然牽涉重大公眾利益，並有機會涉及另一些利益衝突，但較諸橫洲土地的"官商鄉黑"問題，已是小菜一碟。
Although this incident was a matter of significant public interest and might involve conflict of interests it paled into insignificance when compared with the government - business - rural - triad issue concerning the land at Wang Chau
我希望局長聽到我們的意見，可以認真回應。
I hope the Secretary can hear our views and give a serious response
主席，我發言支持朱凱廸議員引用《基本法》第七十三條，就新世界有關顧問公司涉嫌在橫洲的公屋發展項目中挪用限閱資料一事，傳召運輸及房屋局局長到立法會答辯。
President I rise to speak in support of Mr CHU Hoi - dicks motion on invoking Article 73 of the Basic Law to summon the Secretary for Transport and Housing to come to the Legislative Council to answer questions in respect of the alleged illegal use of restricted information by the relevant consultancy of the New World Development Company Limited NWD in the public housing development project at Wang Chau
主席，我真的聽到生厭。
President I am really tired of listening to such speeches
我開始對你有更大尊敬，因為有些同事，包括建制派的同事每次也提到"拉布"。
I begin to have greater respect for you since some Honourable colleagues including those of the pro - establishment camp mentioned filibustering in each and every speech
前者是政府在橫洲事件上有沒有輸送利益？
The former is whether the Government has transferred any benefit in the Wang Chau incident
奧雅納事件和今次新世界的事件，其實是關於前者挪用房屋署和政府的資料，為其另一個客戶新世界服務。
The incident of Ove Arup Partners Arup and this incident of NWD are actually about the illegal use of information of the Housing Department HD and the Government by the former to serve NWD its other client
我剛才聽到兩位建制派同事，即盧偉國議員和劉國勳議員，多次說沒有理由要扯上新世界。
Just now I heard two Honourable colleagues from the pro - establishment camp namely Ir Dr LO Wai - kwok and Mr LAU Kwok - fan repeat many times that there was no reason to drag in NWD
就讓他前來交代資料，澄清事實吧。
Just let him come here to give an account and clarify the facts
這令我感到有少許莫名其妙。
I feel a bit puzzled
有些同事希望淡化此事，說其實該項數據矩陣只是普通資料，但究竟這是否只是單一事件？
Some Honourable colleagues wish to play down this matter saying that the data matrix is actually just ordinary information . But is this really an individual case?
根據建制派同事自己引述的資料，似乎並不是，還有其他數宗懷疑有問題的個案曾經出現。
According to the information cited by the Honourable colleagues from the pro - establishment camp themselves it does not seem so . Several other suspicious cases have occurred before