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我強調，這是調查，不是指控，也不是干預，更不是抹黑。
I must emphasize that an investigation is not an accusation not intervention and not tarnishing
調查有助釐清事實，讓公眾清楚了解事實的真相，對於將來廉署改善內部人士的調遷，以及讓市民重拾對廉署的信心，都是有重大而深遠的幫助。
An investigation can help us ascertain the facts and enable the public to know the truth of the matter . It will also have significant and far - reaching effect on the future improvement of the internal personnel deployment in ICAC and the restoration of public confidence in it
所以，希望各位同事從正面的角度來看運用《條例》成立專責委員會的建議。
For that reason I hope Members will look positively the proposal of setting up a select committee under the Legislative Council Ordinance
這樣有助找出真相，亦有助市民重拾對廉署的信心，解決當前大家對廉署失去公信力的疑問。
This will help us seek the truth restore public confidence in ICAC and dispel the public suspicion that ICAC has lost its credibility
所以，我支持林卓廷議員的議案，運用《條例》調查廉署的人事問題。
For that reason I support Mr LAM Cheuk - tings motion on invoking the Legislative Council Ordinance to investigate the personnel issues of ICAC
其目的是為了公眾利益，是為了香港將來能夠有更完善的制度，也是我們作為立法會議員履行《基本法》賦予的職權和責任。
The purpose is to ensure the public interest and enable Hong Kong to have a better system in the future . This also something we Legislative Council Members should do in order to fulfil the functions powers and duties vested with us under the Basic Law
如果最終查出完全沒有違反任何程序，調查結果豈不正正可以還廉署一個公道、一個清白嗎？
If the findings of an investigation reveal no violation of any procedures they can actually do justice to ICAC and prove innocence
這樣才可以讓廉署繼續向前邁進，總比現時社會對廉署的工作失去信心，而大家又根本沒有更好的方法，來處理這項社會重大關注的事件好得多。
In this way ICAC can move ahead once again . This is far better than simply watching the loss of public confidence in ICACs work but having no better ways to deal with this incident of grave public concern
所以，我們有理由相信而公眾亦有合理懷疑，在未能修改現時的《防止賄賂條例》第3及第8條的情況之下，廉署在調查牽涉特首的任何案件時，有可能因為觸及現時第3及第8條的限制，以致受到一些干預而無法調查。
For that reason we have reasons to believe and the public can reasonably suspect that if sections 3 and 8 of the Prevention of Bribery Ordinance are not amended in cases where the Chief Executive is involved ICAC may well face intervention and fail to carry out any investigation due to the restrictions under sections 3 and 8
因此，這項合理的懷疑已經引起公眾的關注，構成重大公眾利益。
This reasonable doubt has already caused public concern and come to involve significant public interest
最後，我想讀出《防止賄賂條例》第3條的內容："索取或接受利益任何訂明人員未得行政長官一般或特別許可而索取或接受任何利益，即屬犯罪"。
Lastly I wish to read out section 3 of the Prevention of Bribery Ordinance Soliciting or accepting an advantage―Any prescribed officer who without the general or special permission of the Chief Executive solicits or accepts any advantage shall be guilty of an offence
當中清楚訂明是由行政長官許可，換句話說，當調查對象是行政長官，第3條的內容將會出現邏輯上的矛盾。
The permission of the Chief Executive is clearly stipulated . In other words if the person being investigated is the Chief Executive then contradictions in logic within section 3 may arise
因 此，雖然表面證據已經確立，但如果任何調查是根據《防止賄賂條例》進行的，我們便有可能亦有理由相信第3條會出現受到行政長官干預而導致調查出現問題。
Therefore we can reasonably believe that despite the establishment of a prima facie case any investigation conducted under the Prevention of Bribery Ordinance may face intervention from the Chief Executive and fail to proceed due to section 3
希望大家再三思考這一點，幫助香港及廉署解決當前的問題。
I hope Members will think twice and help Hong Kong and ICAC to solve the current problem
因此，若昨天反對林卓廷議員的同事認為這項議案是作出一些指控或是未有足夠的證據，我想在此再三向大家解釋，本來成立專責委員會的原意，就是因為未有證據，所以要靠專責委員會來找出證據、真相。
Therefore if Members who opposed Mr LAM Cheuk - tings motion yesterday think that the motion amounts to an accusation and that there is insufficient evidence I wish to explain to them once again that the original intent of setting up a select committee is that since there is no evidence at present we must rely on a select committee to find out the evidence and truth
我希望何議員能夠查清事實。
I hope that Dr HO can get his facts straight
主席，找出事實是非常重要的。
President getting the facts straight is very important
我昨晚看電視時，看到有線電視的記者在會議......
I saw on television last night that after the meeting an i - Cable News reporter
主席，我剛才說到求真是非常重要的。
President I was up to the point that getting the facts straight is very important
我根據司長的建議，看看昨日司長開會時的發言紀錄，原來司長的說法是這樣的："我在預備這次議案辯論的時候，亦再次確定了我沒有獲悉廉署正進行這項調查。
Then I took her advice and read the transcript of her speech in the meeting yesterday . This was what she said When I was preparing for this motion debate I also made an effort to reconfirm that I had never been informed that ICAC was conducting an investigation
"非常複雜的句子，這句句子說她再次確定了......
This is a very complicated sentence
沒有獲悉。如果只是她沒有獲悉，那麼廉政公署其實有否進行調查呢？
It says that she did reconfirm that she had never been informed If the fact is merely that she had never been informed then we must ask Did the Independent Commission Against Corruption ICAC actually conduct any investigation?
她回覆有線記者所說："其實我沒有說過ICAC有沒有調查CY的案件。
In her reply to the i - Cable News reporter she said Actually I have not said whether ICAC is investigating the case involving C Y
"我覺得這問題是非常重要的，對於我們應否引用《立法會條例》調查這宗案件，我覺得非常重要。
I think this point is very important . It is very important to the question of whether we should invoke the Legislative Council Ordinance to look into the case
司長在發言當中，用了"恐怕"這個詞語。
In her speech the Chief Secretary used the word afraid
即是懷疑，即是不確定。
It means doubt and uncertainty
我很想司長說清楚，如果她有事實基礎，指出林卓廷議員說的全部都 是猜測、誤導性的說話，就告訴我們這是猜測的、誤導的；如果說，這"恐怕"是猜測或是誤導的，其實對於我們來說並沒有大幫助。
I would very much like the Chief Secretary for Administration to make a clarification . If she has any facts to support her saying that Mr LAM Cheuk - tings remarks are all speculative and misleading then please tell us directly that his words are all speculative and misleading . Her use of the word afraid cannot be of any great help to us
我很希望林鄭司長能夠斬釘截鐵，清清楚楚告訴我們。
I really hope that the Chief Secretary for Administration can tell us everything in clear and definite terms
我們當然知道行政長官是司長的上司，在這裏提及上司任何問題，都非常尷尬。
We certainly know the Chief Executive is her supervisor and she will find it very embarrassing to mention his problems here
但是，我們也聽過司長曾經說過："官到無求膽自大"。
However we also once heard her say A government official with no expectation is always courageous
在保護上司及向公眾問責之間，我希望司長能夠大膽地選擇一個她認為能夠幫助香港的做法。
I hope she can courageously choose the option she considers helpful to Hong Kong when it comes to the protection of her supervisor and holding herself accountable to the public
主席，最近在香港發生的所有事情，都是前所未有的，令人十分痛心。
President all the recent happenings in Hong Kong are unprecedented and saddening
香港的核心價值和一直以來行之有效的制度，正在不斷土崩瓦解。
The core values and time - tested systems of Hong Kong are all disintegrating incessantly
究竟香港還剩下多少未潰爛的核心價值？
How many of our core values are left intact?
今天關於《條例》的辯論跟一個重要核心價值有關，這就是廉潔。
The debate today on the invocation of the Ordinance is related to one important core value probity
我支持由林卓廷議員提出的議案，支持本會引用《條例》成立專責委員會，調查廉政專員白韞六取消李寶蘭署任執行處首長而引發的廉署人事動盪，調查方向包括取消署任安排是否涉及干預調查梁振英收受UGL 5,000萬元的案件，梁振英在事件中有沒有角色衝突等。
I support Mr LAM Cheuk - tings motion and agree that this Council should invoke the Ordinance to appoint a select committee for conducting an investigation into the ICAC personnel reshuffle arising from Commissioner Simon PEHs cancellation of Ms Rebecca LIs acting appointment as Head of Operations . The areas to be investigated should include whether the cancellation of the acting appointment was related to any intervention in the investigation into LEUNG Chun - yings receipt of 50 million from UGL Limited whether there is any conflict of interest on the part of LEUNG Chun - ying and so on
眾所周知，廉潔是香港的核心價值之一，我相信在座的70位議員一定會同意。
As we all know probity is one of Hong Kongs core values . I believe all the 70 Members here will agree
廉署在1974年成立，雖然不是百年老店，但都歷史悠久。
Founded in 1974 ICAC has a very long history though it cannot be called a century - old shop
它一直以來透過執法、預防和教育三管齊下的策略打擊貪污，令香港蛻變成為全世界其中一個最廉潔的地方。
All along it has been combating corruption under the three - pronged approach of law enforcement prevention and community education thus transforming Hong Kong into one of the most corruption - free places in the world
守護"廉潔"這個得來不易的香港核心價值，是非常關鍵的。
Safeguarding the hard - earned core value of probity is of critical importance
因此，曾經有人說過，或者廉署宣傳時也說過：香港勝在有ICAC。
Thus people have been saying and ICAC has also been advocating in its publicity that Hong Kongs advantage is ICAC
我支持議案的原因非常簡單，因為這次人事調動非常不尋常，也涉及究竟特首有否干預廉署的運作，公眾非常關注。
I support this motion for the simple reason that the staff change we see this time is highly unusual . The incident is also a great concern of the public as it relates to whether the Chief Executive has intervened in the operation of ICAC
在這些合理懷疑下，立法會有責任進行調查。
Owing to these reasonable suspicions the Legislative Council is obligated to conduct an investigation
"廉潔"這個核心價值，這條底線，我們是不能退讓的，我希望今天在席的議員同事，都能明白我們為何要在這問題上追究到底。
We must never yield on this core value and bottom line of probity . I hope all the Members present today can understand why we must get to the bottom of this incident
這次事件觸發廉署大地震，李寶蘭其後提出提早解除合約，自行離職。
This incident triggered an earthquake in ICAC . Later Rebecca LI offered to resolve her agreement and resigned of her own accord
被指是李寶蘭愛將的執行處首席調查主任高迪龍亦辭職。
Principal Investigator Dale KO said to be Rebecca LIs favourite subordinate also resigned
這場前所未有的大地震，已造成內部士氣嚴重低落，早前甚至有傳言指有近八成員工杯葛周年晚宴。
This unprecedented earthquake drastically lowered staff morale and it was even rumoured that nearly 80 % of the ICAC staff boycotted the annual dinner . The incident also aroused international concern
事件並引起國際關注，《紐約時報》中文網在7月26日發表題為"廉政公署女神探辭職，獨立反腐能力疑將削弱"的文章，對廉署的獨立和中立性提出疑問。
On 26 July The New York Times Chinese carried an article entitled Hong Kong Graft Busters Exit Stirs Fears Over Agencys Independence querying the independence and neutrality of ICAC
事件的關鍵在於，我們不明白為何廉署的"第二把交椅"可以突然被停止署任。
The crux of the incident is that we do not understand why the Number 2 person of ICAC was removed from her acting post all of a sudden
去年署任執行處首長時，政府在新聞稿中亦大讚其表現："李寶蘭於1984年投身廉署，任職助理調查主任。
When she was offered an acting appointment as Head of Operations last year the Government commended her very highly in the press release and I quote Ms LI commenced her career in the ICAC in 1984 as an Assistant Investigator
她於2002年出任首席調查主任，2004年晉升為執行處助理處長，並於2010年起出任執行處處長。
She was promoted through the ranks to Principal Investigator in 2002 Assistant Director of Operations in 2004 and Director of Investigation in 2010
李女士於2007年獲頒香港廉政公署卓越獎章，以表揚其出色領導才能及卓越表現。
Ms LI received the Hong Kong ICAC Medal for Distinguished Service in 2007 for her outstanding leadership and exemplary service
" 這段引述明顯帶出一系列疑點，而在過去1年，李寶蘭亦無大過。
End of quote This quotation brings out a whole series of queries . In the past one year Rebecca LI did not commit any major mistakes
白韞六至今仍未能向公眾清楚解釋，李寶蘭究竟有何不足之處。
And Simon PEH has so far failed to tell the public clearly what shortcomings Rebecca LI had
白韞六未能消除大眾疑慮，反而令大家產生更多疑問。
PEHs failure to dispel public queries has thus created further questions among the people
最耐人尋味的是，由於李寶蘭是特首梁振英收受澳洲UGL 5,000萬元涉貪案的最高調查官員，負責監督案件，而梁振英是UGL案的受查人士。
The most baffling thing lies in the fact that Rebecca LI was the highest official responsible for overseeing the investigation into the alleged corruption case involving Chief Executive LEUNG Chun - yings receipt of 50 million from Australian enterprise UGL Limited and LEUNG Chun - ying was under investigation in the UGL case
究竟梁振英有否參與取消署任安排的決定？
Did LEUNG Chun - ying participate in making the decision of cancelling the acting appointment?
如果有，這是非常嚴重的問題，涉及嚴重的角色及利益衝突。
If yes the problem will be very serious as serious conflict of roles and interests were involved
有消息指，廉署早於1年多前已要求梁振英就UGL案提供資料，但香港特別行政區行政長官辦公室及相關部門事隔1整年，至今仍未回覆。
According to sources ICAC already requested LEUNG Chun - ying to provide information on the UGL case more than a year ago . But the Office of the Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and other related departments have not given any responses after one whole year
廉署雖有強制權力提取文件，但一直沒有執行，令人憂慮廉署是否放輕了手腳。
As ICAC has so far stopped short of exercising its power of requiring the turning in of documents people are worried that it may have slacked its efforts
是否有人"被離開"，是因為"唔識做"？有人"被升職"，是因為"好識做"呢？
Could it be possible that someone was told to resign because she was not good and another person was forced to accept promotion because he was very good?
公眾非常關心這次停止署任是否跟梁振英的UGL事件有關，白韞六同樣含糊其辭。
The public are gravely concerned about whether the termination of the acting appointment was connected with LEUNG Chun - yings involvement in the UGL incident
白韞六在7月11日的記者招待會上指出，在決定取消李寶蘭的署任安排後，曾知會梁振英，但梁振英並無參與決定，也沒有提出意見。
But Simon PEH remains equally ambiguous about it . In the press conference held on 11 July PEH said that he had notified LEUNG Chun - ying after cancelling Rebecca LIs acting appointment but LEUNG did not take part in making the decision and did not give any advice
而梁振英在回應事件時，亦稱並無參與署理執行處首長李寶蘭被取消署任安排的決定，自己是"有此決定後才被知會的"。
When responding to the incident LEUNG Chun - ying also said that he played no part in making the decision to cancel LIs acting appointment and that he was only informed after the decision had been made
但是，奇怪的是，《廉政公署條例》清楚訂明，廉政專員接受特首指示。
But there is one interesting point here . The Independent Commission Against Corruption Ordinance lays down that the Commissioner takes instruction from the Chief Executive
第51條訂明："廉政專員在符合行政長官命令及受行政長官管轄下，負責廉政公署的指導及行政事務。
Section 51 stipulates that [t]he Commissioner subject to the orders and control of the Chief Executive shall be responsible for the direction and administration of the Commission
"第81條訂明："廉政專員可委任行政長官認為所需的廉署人員，以協助廉政專員執行他在本條例下的職能。
Section 81 also provides that [t]he Commissioner may appoint such officers as the Chief Executive thinks necessary to assist the Commissioner in the performance of his functions under this Ordinance
"第83條訂明："廉署人員的僱用條款及條件，須獲得行政長官批准"。
Under Section 83 [t]he terms and conditions of employment of officers shall be subject to the approval of the Chief Executive
究竟特首及特首辦以至特首的代理人，有沒有在事件中擔當任何角色，這不是很需要了解嗎？
Do you agree that we need to find out if the Chief Executive the Office of the Chief Executive or any agent acting on behalf of the Chief Executive has played any role in the incident?
反對成立專責委員會的議員，面對這宗如此重要的事件，是否可以不去調查，不去為市民找出真相？
Members who oppose the setting up of a select committee do you think you should refrain from conducting an investigation and avoid finding out the truth for the people when we are facing a matter of such importance?
主席，這一場廉政風暴已對香港造成極大衝擊，無論廉署和梁振英如何向外界澄清，也不足以令公眾信服，只有查明真相，方可恢復廉署的士氣，守護香港廉政的金漆招牌。
President this ICAC storm has dealt a heavy blow to Hong Kong . No matter how hard ICAC and LEUNG Chun - ying try to explain people will not be convinced . It is only when the truth is revealed through an investigation that we can see staff morale in ICAC restored and its name as a trustworthy guardian of probity in Hong Kong revived
無論是百年或多少年的老店，我們也很希望廉署可以繼續堅守崗位，可以繼續守護香港廉潔的核心價值。
Whether ICAC is really a century - old shop we earnestly hope that it can remain steadfast in its duty and continue to safeguard the core value of probity in Hong Kong
如果廉署"玩完"，相信香港亦沒有好日子過。
If ICAC is finished there probably will not be any good day for Hong Kong
因此，立法會必須引用《條例》進行調查，發揮監察政府的職能。
Therefore the Legislative Council must invoke the Ordinance for investigation and fulfil its function in monitoring the Government
主席，我謹發言代表公民黨支持林卓廷議員根據《立法會條例》所提出的議案。
President on behalf of the Civic Party I rise to speak in support of the motion moved under the Legislative Council Ordinance by Mr LAM Cheuk - ting
主席，最近這段日子，香港發生的事情令我想起兩年前某個演唱會的其中一幕。
President what have recently happened in Hong Kong remind me of one scene in a concert two years ago
本來一片燦爛的維港夜景在樂隊的伴奏下，徐徐倒下，徐徐崩塌，換來的是一堆紅色的碎片，一個極其象徵性的畫面。
As the band played what was originally the spectacular nightscape of the Victoria Harbour collapsed slowly disintegrated slowly and turned into a mound of crimson debris in the end . This was a highly symbolic scene
主席，不幸地，似乎香港現時正在應驗這個畫面。
Unfortunately President this scene seems to have come true in Hong Kong
我們看到過去香港賴以成功的多項核心價值亦逐一崩塌，包括我們極力希望維護的廉政制度。
Many cores values to which Hong Kong owes its success have disintegrated one by one including the anti - corruption system which we want very much to safeguard
主席，今年7月發生的廉政公署人事風波，會內的同事已經很詳細地提述一遍，每次聽到也驚心動魄，每次聽到也猶如在我們耳邊敲響警鐘。
President Members of this Council have already recounted in detail the personnel reshuffle that occurred in the Independent Commission Against Corruption ICAC in July 2016 . Every time I hear about it I am terrified . Every time we hear about it we feel like hearing the sounding of an alarm beside our very ears
四名廉署高層人員先後宣布辭職，主席，如果不是有一位因為要同袍留低而願意留下，其實已經一起離任，是4個人，而且4個皆是高層人員。
Four senior staff members of ICAC announced their resignation one after another . President one of them would have left with the rest of the three had he not decided to stay in order to retain his other colleagues . We are talking about four persons and all of them were senior officers
如果發生在任何一間私人機構，主席，我相信任何正常老闆都不會認為這是普通的人事問題，這不可能是普通的公司正常運作的一部分，當中必然發生了事，而正常老闆也一定會深入追究原因，究竟是有人"拉隊"跳槽，還是公司出現管治問題？
President I do not think that if the same thing happens in a private company any boss in his right mind will treat it as an ordinary personnel issue . This cannot be an ordinary incident in the normal operation of a company . There must be something wrong
主席，我理解到建制派同事非常有惻隱之心，他們認為廉署是獨立的，不錯，我也認同廉署是獨立的，但獨立不等於我們不聞不問，獨立不等於我們可以把維護香港核心價值的重要制度的一部分當作 不存在，可以把發生的嚴重人事問題當作不存在。
President I know pro - establishment Members all have a commiserating mind . They maintain that ICAC should function independently . Yes I also agree that ICAC should function independently
建制派同事嘗試對事件輕描淡寫，認為只是小事一樁，不值得動用"尚方寶劍"《條例》作深入調查。
Pro - establishment Members all try to play down the incident saying that it is only a minor incident not warranting the invocation of the Ordinance the imperial sword to launch any thorough investigation
主席，我必須清晰指出，其實正正是建制派這種態度，才是破壞香港廉政制度的罪魁禍首。
President I must state clearly that this attitude of pro - establishment Members is precisely the culprit that ruins the anti - corruption system in Hong Kong . If it is not ignorance then it must be an underestimation of the seriousness of the matter that has prompted them to cling so closely to this attitude
建制派同事堅持這種看法，如果不是無知，便必然是完全低估事情的嚴重性，又或究竟是否有其他原因，我們無從深究，亦不可能知悉，但一個客觀事實是，我們了解整件事將會被淡化，而客觀效果必然有可能令我們的制度繼續藏污納垢。
Or there may be other reasons . We do not know if there is any and there is no way to know . But an objective fact is that the incident will be watered down and the obvious objective effect is that our system will very likely continue to be a place that shelters evils and wrongdoing
到現時為止，關於李寶蘭女士的離職原因的而且確眾說紛紜。
To date opinions differ when it comes to the reasons behind Ms Rebecca LIs departure from ICAC
當中最被傳媒廣泛報道，亦令香港人有合理懷疑的，便是牽涉特首梁振英收受UGL金錢的問題。
The reason most widely reported by the media and suspected by the Hong Kong public is that her departure is connected with Chief Executive LEUNG Chun - yings receipt of money from UGL Limited
這種利益衝突究竟是否構成李寶蘭離職的直接原因，我們不知道，但這正正是我們希望能夠查出真相的原因。
We do not know whether this conflict of interests directly constituted the reason for Ms Rebecca LIs departure but this is exactly why we wish to find out the truth
因為她這樣被取消署任，的而且確與我們以往所理解的廉署制度有點背道而馳。
The way that Ms Rebecca LIs acting appointment was cancelled is indeed quite contradictory to our usual understanding of the way things are run in ICAC
代理主席，白韞六專員的而且確曾就此事回應我們，剛才莫乃光議員亦已提及。
Deputy President ICAC Commissioner Simon PEH did respond to us on this matter and just now Mr Charles Peter MOK has already mentioned Mr PEHs response
白專員最初就取消署任的回應是怎樣呢？
What was his response at the very beginning?
他說，因為李女士的工作表現未達要求，其餘細節白專員拒絕回應。
He only said that the work performance of Ms Rebecca LI failed to meet the requirements but he refused to give any details of the incident
經過數月，其間與特首梁振英會面後，白專員在上月終於就我們的查詢作進一步和較詳細的回覆。
After few months and following his meeting with the Chief Executive he eventually offered a further and more detailed reply last month to our enquiry
白專員在信中表示，取消署任是經過1年的觀察和評估之後所作的決定，而一開始署任的安排則是署任以方便行政，這與署任以待晉升完全不同。
In the letter Mr PEH says that the decision to cancel the acting appointment was made after a one - year observation and assessment and the purpose of the acting appointment was for administrative convenience which is different from an acting appointment with a view to promotion
白韞六在信中亦嚴詞反駁，將UGL事件與李寶蘭辭職掛鈎是極為嚴重但沒有實質證據的指控，事件絕對不涉及執行處調查中的案件。
Mr Simon PEH also sternly refutes that linking the UGL incident with the resignation of Ms Rebecca LI is a serious but unfounded allegation adding that the incident has nothing to do with any cases being investigated by the Operations Department
代理主席，在看畢這回覆後，我們必然產生更多疑問，而這些疑問其實更需要、亦只有立法會才能引用《條例》，才有足夠的能力找到答案和真相。
Deputy President we feel even more puzzled after reading the reply . In order to find out the answer and the truth behind these puzzles we need to move a motion under the Ordinance to provide us with sufficient power to do so . Only the Legislative Council can do so
首先，如果李寶蘭女士一開始的安排是署任以方便行政的話，依照廉署一貫的傳統，這種安排是否有期限呢？
First if Ms Rebecca LIs acting appointment was intended for administrative convenience then according to the usual practice of ICAC was there any time limit for the acting appointment? . When should such an acting appointment end?
究竟署任到哪個時間，這種"方便"才會完畢？
When would such convenience expire?
在署任任內，上司所作評估的目的又是甚麼呢？
What was the purpose of the assessment made on her performance during the acting appointment?
以往有否被取消署任的同類情況發生呢？
Were there similar cancellations of an acting appointment in the past?
如果李女士表現良好，而非如這次所說的表現未達標準的話，她會否以署任方式繼續留任，還是有機會正式晉升成為首長呢？
If Ms LIs performance was satisfactory instead of failing to meet the requirements as he has claimed would she be asked to remain in the acting post or would she have a chance to be formally promoted to Head of Operations?
如果可以晉升，那麼方 便行政和以待晉升的安排又有何分別呢？
If she was suitable for promotion then what is the difference between acting for administrative convenience and acting with a view of promotion?
代理主席，以上種種問題必然要透過《條例》才能釐清。
Deputy President the questions above can only be answered through the invocation of the Ordinance
其次，便是李寶蘭未能通過評核測試的原因。
Next is the reason why Ms Rebecca LI failed to pass the assessment
據傳媒報道，李寶蘭在廉署內一向是非常能幹的調查員，擔任執行處處長多年，而離職時亦得到署內員工的認同和歡送。
It has been reported that Ms LI was a very capable investigator in ICAC . She has been in the acting post of Head of Operations for years . Her work was well recognized by her colleagues who bid her farewell when she left ICAC
這個客觀事實證明她得到大家的認同，最低限度，從市民和坊間角度看來，李女士在調查和行政管理上其實有出眾的表現，才能做到那個位置。
This objective fact proves that her achievement was recognized by her colleagues and at least from the perspective of the public and the community Ms LI had an outstanding performance in her investigation and administrative work which enabled her to hold that post
當然，代理主席，我們非常清楚在大機構中要再上一層樓，究竟是否需要其他要素和其他特質，又或白專員在衡量她是否適合擔任首長時應該更謹慎，這點我們絕對同意，但我們憂慮的是，究竟有否其他標準出現呢？
Deputy President we are certainly well aware that it takes other criteria and attributes for one to scale new heights in a large organization . We also agree that ICAC Commissioner Simon PEH should be prudent in assessing whether she was suitable to take up the post of Head of Operations . We absolutely agree to these points
尤其是在近年政治氣氛急轉直下的情況下，究竟在晉升的過程中有否牽涉政治忠誠這項測試呢？
Given the dramatic changes in the political climate in recent years we simply wonder whether any political loyalty test has been applied in the promotion process
代理主席，這些事情我們全都不知道。
Deputy President we know nothing about all these
如果繼續黑箱作業、繼續未能給予公眾答案的話，公眾的確會認為過於兒戲，而實際上白專員也無從回答我們剛才提出的問題。
If ICAC continues with its clandestine operation and its refusal to answer questions from the public the public will think that its operation is too haphazard . And in fact Commissioner PEH has failed to answer the questions we have just raised
代理主席，更重要的是，到現時為止，公眾最關心的是特首的角色。
Deputy President more importantly the public are now most concerned about the role of the Chief Executive
白專員在答覆我們的信中明確提到，就李女士署任和撤銷署任安排，他亦按慣常做法向行政長官匯報，行政長官知悉他的看法，並沒有提出意見。
In his reply letter Commissioner PEH specifically mentions that he reported the acting arrangement and cancellation of the acting arrangement concerning Ms LI to the Chief Executive as a usual practice; and that the Chief Executive was aware of his view but did not make any comments