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其實，大家只要靜心想想，回歸基本步，化繁為簡，便會看到這確實是一場鬥爭，是"拉布"與反"拉布"的鬥爭，就是這麼簡單。
Actually if we calm down and think turning the complicated into the basics we will realize that this is indeed a battle between filibustering and counter filibustering . This is just that simple
儘管反對派把自己說得大仁大義，但市民心裏十分清楚。
Although opposition Members claim that they are righteous members of the public have a clear picture in heart
反對派6年來濫用"拉布"手段，對立法會及香港社會造成嚴重傷害，大家心中有數。
They know very well the serious harm done to the Legislative Council and Hong Kong society by the opposition camps abusive use of filibustering over the past six years
即使反對派說得"天花龍鳳"，亦難以掩飾他們6年來的所作所為。
Even if opposition Members made exaggerated account they can hardly over up what they have done over the past six years
主席，在辯論中，反對派不斷強調修改《議事規則》並不能令議會運作更為暢順，因為他們仍有很多其他方法可以繼續阻礙立法會的運作，他們更要脅指政府和建制派將來要付出代價。
President opposition Members keep stressing in the debate that amending RoP cannot make the operation of the Council run more smoothly because they still have many other means to obstruct the Councils operation . They even threaten that the Government and the pro - establishment camp will have to pay a price for the amendment in future
我相信這是真話，因為即使修改《議事規則》，反對派仍有方法可以"拉布"。
I believe this is true because even if RoP is amended the opposition camp can still filibuster
但是，這樣便帶出一個問題：既然他們可以繼續"拉布"，既然反對派的"拉布"權沒有被剝奪，他們為何反應這樣大？
However this will bring out a question since opposition Members can continue to filibuster and they are not deprived of their right to filibuster why do they react so strongly?
因此，今次修改《議事規則》，我們只是希望議會能夠回復平衡。
Therefore with the current amendment of RoP we just want to resume a balance in the Council
我奉勸反對派的議員無須太激動。
I advise opposition Members not to be too agitated
修改《議事規則》只是限制反對派利用《議事規則》的漏洞肆意"拉布"，我們希望議會重回正軌，回復平衡，這也是尊重民意的表現。
Amending RoP merely aims at restricting the opposition camp from exploiting the loophole in RoP for wanton filibustering . We hope the Council may get back on the right track and regain its balance . This is also a manifestation of respecting public opinions
市民早已對無日無之的"拉布"怨聲載道，但又無可奈何。
People are highly discontented with the endless filibusters yet they can do nothing about it
最近一項民意調查顯示，接近五成的市民贊成修改《議事規則》，這就是民意。
A recent opinion poll shows that nearly 50 % of the public support amending RoP . This is how the public think
反對派過往口口聲聲表示尊重民意，這次為何不順從民意，讓我們好好修改《議事規則》？
In the past the opposition camp kept claiming that they respected public opinion . Why not go along with public opinion this time and let us duly amend RoP?
這幾年，反對派的表現尊重政治倫理嗎？
Did the acts of opposition Members indicate that they show respect for political ethics these years?
他們曾表現出政治道德嗎？
Have they ever demonstrated political morality?
在修改《議事規則》一事上，反對派的立場亦經常自相矛盾，可謂醜態百出。
On the matter of amending RoP Members of the opposition camp were often inconsistent with their stances . It can be said that they made fools of themselves
他們一方面反對建制派修改《議事規則》，一方面卻又提出大量擬議決議案。
On the one hand they opposed the pro - establishment camps amendment of RoP yet on the other hand they put forward a number of proposed resolutions
他們一方面批評修改《議事規則》的建議未有在議事規則委員會詳細討論，另一方面卻在該委員會舉行會議時衝擊會場。
On the one hand they criticized that the proposals on amending RoP have not been discussed in detail at CRoP yet on the other hand they stormed the meeting venue when a CRoP meeting was held
大家都知道，議事規則委員會的會議一向閉門舉行，不設旁聽，但他們卻衝擊、搗亂會場，在會場內亦沒有好好參與討論，更在會場內利用手機直播會議過程，令會議失卻意義。
As we all know meetings of CRoP have all along been held in private and no observers have been allowed . However they stormed and disrupted the meeting venue; they did not properly take part in the discussion but even broadcast live the proceedings of the meeting with their mobile phones . The meeting has thus become senseless
我希望反對派議員在指責別人前，先檢討自己的所作所為。
I hope opposition Members will first review their conducts before pointing their fingers at others
當他們舉着一隻手指指罵別人，其實有3隻手指是在指向自己。
When they point one finger and berate others they actually have three pointing at themselves
我希望各 位反對派的議員能在立法會運作和《議事規則》的問題上好好自省。
I hope opposition Members will properly reflect on issues concerning Council operation and RoP
反對派和建制派日後仍有很多事情可以商量，在協助市民改善生活、監督政府等方面仍有很多合作空間。
In future the opposition and pro - establishment camps can still hold discussion on a number of matters . There is much room for cooperation in areas of improving peoples livelihood and monitoring the Government etc
我不認為今次修改《議事規則》會令雙方徹底決裂，種下深仇禍根，往後永遠兵戎相見。
I do not think the current amendment of RoP will complete break both camps apart and sow the seeds of deep hatred so that both camps will always be at war
我不相信會出現這種情況。
I do not believe this situation will happen
所以，對於《條例》賦予立法會可以調查的權力，我認為最是珍貴，是立法會必須守護的權力。
Hence I highly cherish the investigation power endowed on the Legislative Council by the Ordinance and I think such powers must be upheld by the Legislative Council
我加入立法會不久，有些內地的法律學者很希望我替他們研究，香港立法會如何透過《條例》所賦予的權力和空間，疏導市民的怨氣，調查市民認為政府做得不對的地方。
Soon after I joined the Legislative Council certain Mainland legal experts wished that I would conduct a study for them to examine how the Legislative Council of Hong Kong could make use of the power and room provided by the Ordinance to give vent to peoples grievances by inquiring into matters that the public considered the Government had done wrong
我們只是回應市民的訴求，善盡議員的責任。
We are just responding to the peoples demand and fulfilling our duty as Members
當時一位功能界別的議員教我這樣做，因我是新加入議會，沒有足夠經驗。
A functional constituency Member advised me to take that as I was new to the Legislative Council and did not have much experience
特別是新進的立法會議員，他們好的不學，又把持不住，被激進派議員那種"粗 口爛舌"、低俗文化感染。
The new Members in particular have not learnt the good practices and without a strong sense of self control they soon pick up from the radical Members the culture of vulgarity and the use of foul language
我要繼續抗議立法會即將變成人大。
I must continue to protest against the Legislative Council turning into the National Peoples Congress
朱凱廸議員，我已兩次警告你，如果你仍然拒絕停止叫喊及關掉發聲裝置，我會命令你退席。
Mr CHU Hoi - dick I have warned you twice already . If you still refuse to stop shouting and turn off the sound device I will order you to leave the Chamber
朱凱廸議員，由於我已給予你充分警告，我現在命令你退席。
Mr CHU Hoi - dick since I have given you sufficient warning I order you to leave the Chamber now
邵家臻議員、莫乃光議員、楊岳橋議員，請返回座位。
Mr SHIU Ka - chun Mr Charles Peter MOK Mr Alvin YEUNG please return to your seats
我反對，因為我們有獨立思考， 我不會說由5分鐘縮短至1分鐘便一定支持或一定反對，要視乎我們正在處理甚麼事情。
I oppose the motion because we should think independently . I will not say that I definitely support or oppose a motion to shorten the duration of the division bell from five minutes to one minute; my decision should be based on the proposal to be dealt with
如果是好事，我們當然支持，因為加快通過便能夠實施，但如果是一些惡法和壞事，我們當然不應該立刻通過。
If the proposal is desirable we will certainly render support as the proposal can then be passed and implemented expeditiously . Nevertheless if the proposal is related to some draconian laws and something undesirable we certainly should not pass it immediately
在這兩天的辯論中，其實大家也一直在討論，最少我們這邊的議員也一直說，這是一項引致惡果的修訂，通過之後，將來有可能令更多惡法更毫無阻攔地通過。
During the debates in these two days Members have been discussing at least Members on this side have been saying that the amendments will cause harmful effects . After the amendments are passed many more draconian laws may be enacted without any obstructions in the future
是因為我們認為今次的修訂建議非常不合理。
That is because the current proposed amendments are very unreasonable
其實，通過今次《議事規則》的修訂後，我相信立法會的形象不會改善，我相信未來只會不斷出現更多的爭議。
In fact I believe the image of the Legislative Council will not be improved after the amendment of RoP and only more disputes will arise in the future
我們為何要廢除立法會的武功？
Why should the Legislative Council be stripped of its powers?
為何要削弱立法會的權力，令行政霸權可以更加張牙舞爪、可以更放肆、可以更不用擔心立法會調查、追究他們？
Why should the powers of the Legislative Council be weaken to enable the Government to exercise executive hegemony and become more ferocious and unrestrained without having to worry that the Legislative Council may conduct investigation and hold them accountable?
為何當局不尊重《基本法》的規定，在這個三權分立的政治體制下容許立法機關擁有監察行政機關的權力？
Why do the authorities not respect the provisions in the Basic Law which empower the legislature to monitor the executive authorities under the political regime of separation of powers?
建制派議員可能不同意我的說法，因為他們認為沒有削弱立法機關的權力，只是削弱反對派的權力，而沒有削弱他們的權力，因為他們把權力收在 自己手上，甚至轉移至立法會主席或全體委員會主席手上。
Pro - establishment Members may not agree with my remarks because they do not think they have weakened the powers of the legislature . They have only weakened the powers of opposition Members while their powers remain intact . They have taken all powers in their own hands or even transferred the powers to the President of the Council or the Chairman of a committee of the whole Council
他們一方面是充權，另一方面是削權，他們削弱了反對派、民主派監察政府的權力。
While they have enhanced their powers our powers have been weakened . They have weakened the powers of opposition and democratic Members in monitoring the Government
今次可能是葉太在香港立法會會議的歷史中，最後一次支持由民主派提交的呈請書，調查領展和香港房屋委員會的責任，但葉太說民主派不用害怕，修訂《議事規則》，將提交呈請書的門檻由20人提高至35人後，說不定我們日後遊說她時，她也會遊說容海恩議員，然後又遊說何俊賢議員，說不定建制派議員也會支持我們。
This may be the last time in the history of the Legislative Council of Hong Kong that Mrs Regina IP supported the petition presented by the democrats in investigating the responsibilities of Link REIT and the Hong Kong Housing Authority . Mrs IP asked the democrats not to worry about the amendment of RoP to raise the threshold of the number of Members required for presenting a petition from 20 to 35 . She said that if we lobbied her in the future she might first persuade Ms YUNG Hoi - yan and then Mr Steven HO to support us
她真是樂觀，對於葉太能否遊說建制派，我也感到十分懷疑，建制派會否聽她的說話......
Mrs IP is really optimistic . I doubt very much whether she could persuade pro - establishment Members . Will they listen to her
主席，這是一個騙局。
President this is a deception
真實的情況是，只有建制派議員才能夠提交呈請書，我們這邊注定無法提交，如果要提交，必須得到他們的同意，這便是在玩弄權力。
The truth is that only pro - establishment Members can present a petition and the democrats are doomed to failure . If we have to present a petition we must get their consent . That is manipulation of power
我們要求議會公平，但原來議員之間，將來是不平等的，以大欺小。
We want fairness in the Legislative Council but there will be no equality among Members in the future; the powerful will suppress the weak
但是，請不要再好像謝偉俊議員、廖長江議員般包裝，說自己今天如何偉大、如何撥亂反正，而其實是赤裸裸的權力政治，要削弱反對派的權力，而將權力只交由保皇黨操縱。
However I hope Members will not act like Mr Martin LIAO or Mr Paul TSE who present themselves as great people who have set wrong things right . This is actually a blatant manipulation of political powers to weaken the powers of the opposition camp and transfer powers to the royalists
請香港市民看一看，他們能否指望保皇黨可以如實地、努力地監察行政機關施政？
Can Hong Kong people expect the royalists to truthfully and diligently monitor the policy implementation of the executive authorities?
便是保着行政機關要通過的法律、予以支持；政府要批出的撥款，即使是1,000億元，不管是超支20億元或200億元，他們也會閉着眼睛通過。
They are the ones who ensure the passage of the bills which the executive authorities want to pass . If the Government wants a funding proposal to be approved even if it involves 100 billion or even if it involves a cost overrun of 2 billion or 20 billion they will approve it with their eyes closed
正如陳志全議員所說，是否要將立法會變成人大？
Executive hegemony will hence become increasingly serious . As suggested by Mr CHAN Chi - chuen do Members want to turn the Legislative Council into the National Peoples Congress NPC?
再者，廖長江議員代表建制派對《議事規則》共提出了24項修訂建議。
Furthermore Mr Martin LIAO has put forward 24 proposals to amend RoP on behalf of pro - establishment Members
議員議事是憲政賦予議員的責任，現時已經關卡重重，讓主席有很大的權力，但議員的權力更會被奪去。
Policy discussion is a constitutional duty of Members but now barriers are set . While the President has been given great powers Members are stripped of their powers
這已經是一種非常不公道的做法，他們還惺惺作態，說這樣可以把香港撥亂反正。
That is very unfair yet but some Members are hypocritical saying that they have set wrong things right for Hong Kong
主席，我想說，立法會有不少議員曾經被派到英國學習西敏寺模式的《議事規則》......
President I would like to say that some Members of the Legislative Council have been sent to the United Kingdom to receive training on parliamentary practice of the Westminster model
我相信細心聆聽的議員均會明白，因為是惡法，當然不應該匆匆通過。
I believe Members who have listened attentively will understand that we certainly should not expeditiously pass the draconian law
如果大家在外面"考試"，被問到今天通過的54項擬議修訂的內容，我不知道在席有多少位議員能夠說出來。
If Members are tested outside the Chamber about the contents of the 54 proposed amendments I wonder how many attending Members can answer
主席，你膽敢警告我，我非常反感，你有甚麼資格警告我們？
That is also a form of hegemony . President I am very annoyed that you dare warn me . Are you in a position to warn Members?
修訂《議事規則》會增加你的權力，但請你謙虛一點。
The amended RoP will enhance your powers but please be more humble
現在一些議員要增加你的權力，而我們站起來多發言2分鐘，你也要警告，有沒有搞錯？
Some Members want to enhance your powers and you warn us after we have only spoken for two minutes . Have you gone too far? . RoP of the Legislative Council is being devastated today
立法會的《議事規則》今天遭到蹂躪，修訂之後就是正式敲響喪鐘，意味着立法會已經離開了西敏寺文明、合理、和平辯論的議事方式。
With the passage of the amendment the death knell will be formally sounded meaning that the Legislative Council has moved away from the Westminster model of deliberation in a civilized reasonable and peaceful way . The Legislative Council has detached from the parliamentary practices of democratic parliaments which adopt the Westminster model
然而，在這個扭曲的議會裏，大家雖然知道我們在選舉所得票數比他們多，但我們從來沒有正視這個不合理的政治制度。
Nevertheless in this distorted legislature although everyone knows that the democrats obtained more votes in election than pro - establishment Members we have not seriously addressed this unreasonable political system
《基本法》說我們應該要"一人一票"選特首，要有一個全部議員由民選、普選產生的立法會，但回歸20年來也未有改變。
The Basic Law provides that we can elect the Chief Executive on a one - person - one - vote basis and the election of all the members of the Legislative Council shall be by universal suffrage but things have not changed in these 20 years after the reunification
主席，西敏寺的模式除了是少數服從多數外，亦十分強調要保護少數的權益。
President apart from upholding the principle that the minority is subordinate to the majority the Westminster model also stresses that the rights of the minority should be safeguarded
少數派及反對黨發言的權益，他們提交呈請書的權益全都要維護，但我們今天看到建制派議員拿出鋤頭、槍和刀，要收回權力，令到反對派以後沒有還擊之力，這是非常卑鄙可耻的行為。
The right to speak by the minority and opposition Members as well as their right to present petitions should be safeguarded . But today we witness how pro - establishment Members will take away such rights with hoes guns and knives so that opposition Members will have no power to defend themselves in the future . That is very despicable
因此，我提出嚴正抗議，反對把點名表決鐘聲由5分鐘縮短至1分鐘。
Thus I express my solemn protest and oppose shortening the duration of the division bell from five minutes to one minute
歷史要記錄今天保皇黨可耻的罪行。
History will record the despicable action of the royalists today
反對修改《議事規則》！
We oppose the amendments to the Rules of Procedure!
請各位議員立即停止叫喊。
Will Members stop shouting immediately
代理主席，有關修訂《議事規則》的辯論已經進入最後階段，而我亦已看得很清楚，根本沒有討論的餘地，我們拿出這麼多道理都是白說的。
Deputy President the debate on amending the Rules of Procedure RoP has reached the final stage . It is well evident that there is really no room for negotiation and it is pointless for us to present so many reasons
梁繼昌議員建議建制派研究我們提出的問題，例如他們的"班長"提出的修訂建議違反《基本法》且自我矛盾，《議事規則》已清楚訂明立法會主席是由眾多議員宣誓後推選出來的，但他們卻把立法會主席變成是在立法會會議以外選出的，簡直不倫不類，而且前後矛盾。
Mr Kenneth LEUNG asked pro - establishment Members to study the problems raised by us eg . the proposals to amend RoP put forward by their class prefect are in breach of the Basic Law and self - contradictory . RoP clearly provides that the President of the Legislative Council is elected by Members of the Legislative Council after they have taken the Oath but pro - establishment Members have turned the election of the President into a procedure to be held on an occasion other than at a meeting of the Legislative Council which is awkward and self - contradictory
我們已闡述所有道理，而我今天亦很留意建制派的發言，但根本沒有討論的餘地，他們依然堅持立場，還乘機對民主派作出攻擊。
We have stated all the reasons and I have also noted the speeches made by pro - establishment Members today . There is really no room for negotiation . They have maintained their stance and even taken the opportunity to attack the democrats
如果直選議員，特別是民主派的直選議員是懶惰的話，他們會當選嗎？
Will Members returned from direct elections particularly those who are pro - democracy Members still be elected if they are lazy?
"議員可否用法文或德文發言？
Can a Member address the Council in French or German?
那麼用手語發言又如何？
How about sign language?
請代理主席執行《議事規則》。
Please enforce RoP Deputy President
由此可見，結構和規矩都很重要。
This shows that structures and rules are very important
那些多年來一直阻礙香港發展，阻礙經濟、民生、環境及文化等各方面進程的結構性問題不去改 變，卻偏要修改《議事規則》，進一步收緊議員在議會監察政府的能力，這就是建制派的使命。
Some Members have not made effort to change the structural problems which have for many years hindered the development of the economy the peoples livelihood the environment and the culture of Hong Kong etc . Instead they seek to amend RoP which will further tighten Members power to monitor the work of the Government in the Legislative Council . That is the mission of pro - establishment Members
眾所周知，他們的使命是要為政府護航，令政府和建制派可以繼續"圍威喂"。
As we all know their mission is to support the Government so that the Government and pro - establishment Members can continue to help each other
老實說，我不喜歡用"關愛"一詞，因為關愛是由上而下的，但我們現時推動的是平等、參與，以及每個人都能夠獨立自主，並有尊嚴。
Frankly speaking I do not like the word caring because it suggests a top - to - down approach . However we are now advocating equality participation independence autonomy and dignity
廖長江議員，請動議你的擬議決議案。
Mr Martin LIAO you may move your proposed resolution
雖然他是來自建制派的直選議員，但我始終覺得他某程度上較為公道。
Although he was a directly - elected Member from the pro - establishment camp I always think that he was to a certain extent rather fair
我最記得有一次"長毛"前議員吟詩，曾鈺成前主席即場指出他說漏了兩個字，更立刻指正他。
I remember most clearly that when Long Hair a former Member recited a poem former President Jasper TSANG pointed out right on the spot that Long Hair had missed out two Chinese characters and corrected him immediately
今次修訂《議事規則》，似乎是將主席的權力繼續推向至高無上，因為我們這位主席甚至連處理......
The current amendments to RoP seems to expand the powers of the President to a supreme level as our President can even President Mr IP Kin - yuen already pointed out to you yesterday that textual amendments should not be made in haste
可是，謝偉俊議員其實也很尊重他提出的擬議修訂，因為我留意到他花時間看葉建源議員就"擧"和"舉"二字撰寫的文章，他確實有花時間，我沒說錯，對嗎？
On the other hand Mr Paul TSE attached great importance to his proposed amendment as I noticed that he had spent time reading Mr IP Kin - yuens article on the Chinese characters 擧 and 舉 . He did spend some time didnt he?
所以，我希望謝偉俊議員不要介意我回顧歷史，我並非"逐粒米洗"，而是我真的......
I hope that Mr Paul TSE will not mind me looking back to history . I do not mean to wash rice grain by grain
如果我可以洗得乾乾淨淨，不會讓人吃壞肚，即使我是"逐粒米洗"，我也覺得是應該的。
Instead I really if I wash rice clean and people will not feel sick after eating I think I should still wash rice grain by grain
很可惜，這次因為主席權力獨大，令我們無法就一些解釋得不夠清楚的修訂建議與議員同事互相討論，加深了解。
Unfortunately owing to the dominant power of the President we cannot discuss with Honourable colleagues for a better understanding of the amendment proposals which have not been clearly explained
我們所要求的是一些很正常的信息交流。
We are just asking for some normal communication
我翻閱了很多文件，即使加上秘書處的努力，在文件中也未必能夠說明部分修訂建議背後的原因，而是要等到今天大家一起花時間討論，我們才可多明白一點。
I have read a lot of papers and despite the efforts of the Secretariat the papers may not be able to cover all the reasons for making each amendment proposal . We must wait till today in order to gain a better understanding through discussion
當然，議員可以各自進行研究，但大家都明白議會工作繁忙。
It is true that Members may study the amendment proposals on their own but we are all very busy in handling Council business
石禮謙議員現時在席，我今天仍要在樓上辦公室處理政府帳目委員會就各份報告提交問題的工作，因為今天是"死線"，我還須就兩份報告提交問題。
Mr Abraham SHEK is present now . Today I still have to work in my office upstairs to prepare questions for various reports relating to the Public Accounts Committee PAC as the deadline falls on today . I still have to prepare questions on two more reports
大家要明白，議員的工作，即使有同事幫助......議員所做的研究不是沒用的，雖然有時能夠派上用場的可能不到5%，但我們的研究對認識議題相當重要。
We must understand that even if we Members have assistants to help us with our work the research done by Members is not in vain although sometimes less than 5 % of our efforts are relevant
我列舉最近的例子。教育局希望申請120億元的一筆過撥款，以基金形式為各大學興建宿舍。
Recently the Education Bureau applied for a one - off provision of 12 billion to set up a fund for the construction of university hostels
其實，我們想要的不單是政府的承諾，最重要的是希望政府交代其政策。
In fact we do not only want the Government to make pledges . Most importantly we want the Government to give an account of its policy
帳委會的報告很多時候都會提及政府文件和帳委會討論過程的摘要、紀要、紀錄，但政府往往沒有足夠時間解釋。
In PAC reports we often mention government papers as well as the extracts minutes and records of PAC discussions . However for most of the time the Government does not have enough time for explanation . It has been the practice of the Chairmen of many committees and panels to urge government officials to brief Members in five minutes
議員真的無法好好監察政府。
In this situation it is difficult if not impossible for Members to monitor the Government properly
如果議員的前期工夫做得不好，只會令公帑的運用越趨不受監察，最後受苦的未必是議員，可能是市民，甚至是我們的下一代。
If Members are not well - prepared beforehand the use of public money will be increasingly out of control . In the end the ones who suffer may not be Members but the general public or even our next generation
他若未能出席會議，也會事先送交他的意見和問題，希 望能在會議上好好處理。
If he cannot attend a particular meeting he will give his views and questions in advance so that they can be addressed at the meeting
我認為立法會議員既獲稱為"尊貴的議員"，大家應該珍惜自己的身份。我希望大家以事論事。
As Members of the Legislative Council are given the title Honourable I think we should all have self - respect and take every matter on its merits
所以，我很希望各位議員要對得起自己和整個社會，那才是平衡。
I do hope that all Members will be accountable to themselves and to the whole community . That is what we call striking a balance
平衡並非來自主席聲稱他如何執行《議事規則》，這種所謂的平衡根本是非常不平衡！
A balance does not come from a President who keeps saying how he is going to enforce RoP . This so - called balance is actually a strong imbalance!
代理主席，今次修改《議事規則》，保皇黨經常說是為了反"拉布"。
Deputy President the current amendment to the Rules of Procedure RoP is often described by the royalists as a way to counter filibustering
請各位同事撫心自問，過往"拉布"的次數較多，還是保皇黨倚仗表決時的票數優勢而強行通過議案的次數較多？
Will Members please be honest and ask yourselves Were there more cases of filibustering or more cases in which the royalists push through motions with their majority vote in the past?
當時，民主派議員發言被謝偉俊議員打斷，石議員義正詞嚴地直斥不應打斷議員的發言，應讓相關議員繼續陳辭，我對此印象非常深刻。
Back then when Mr Paul TSE interrupted the speech of a pro - democracy Member Mr SHEK spoke sternly that no interruption was allowed and the Member should be allowed to continue with his speech . I was really impressed
石議員所說的是一個理想，但客觀現實又是否做得到？
Mr SHEK was talking about an ideal condition . Can this ideal be achieved in reality?
她說得很清楚，其中一次是2010年五區總辭的時候，建制派不想讓民主派議員發 言。
She clearly said that one attempt was made in 2010 when Members returned from five geographical constituencies resigned en masse . As the pro - establishment camp did not want to let pro - democracy Members speak it aborted the meeting
這是謝偉俊議員提出的修正案，我不知道是否屬於瑣屑無聊，但當年曾鈺成前主席容許他提出並進行表決。
It was a CSA proposed by Mr Paul TSE . I am not sure if it was frivolous but Jasper TSANG the former President ruled that it was admissible and put it to vote
表決結果顯示，提出議案的人自己表決反對，沒有任何一位議員支持，表決紀錄就在我手上。
According to the voting result the mover of this motion voted against this CSA and no Members voted for it . I have got the voting result with me
"這是立法會的逐字紀錄。
This remark is extracted from the verbatim record of the Council meetings
他又說："希望大家不要介意我好像在'搞笑'般，我只希望可以有一個討論的過程。
He also stated I look hilarious but it is hoped that Members do not mind this . I just want to start a course of debate
最後，有一點我必須說清楚，那就是這個議會天生是一個不正常的議會：功能界別、零票議員、分組點票、"DQ"議員、"西環"幕後發功。
Lastly I must make one point clear . This Council is intrinsically abnormal functional constituencies Members with zero vote split voting disqualification of Members and the influence of the Western District behind the scenes
他們憑少數選票取得多數議席，佔盡上風，更有權用盡，而且期望我們民主派會乖乖地任人宰割。
They have got a majority of seats with a minority of votes . As they have gained an upper hand they exercise their rights to the fullest and even expect us the pro - democracy camp to give up without a fight
主席現在不在席，他膽敢引用英美民主國家的例子？
How dare he cite examples by referring to democratic countries like the United Kingdom and the United States?