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事實上，在立法會舉行墟市事宜小組委員會的會議令人感到非常困擾和困惑，因為來來去去，從頭到尾，說來說去也是數個要點，但政府卻一直帶我們遊花園。
As a matter of fact the meetings of the Subcommittee on Issues Relating to Bazaars are really baffling . We have only been talking about a few salient points time and again but the Government has been beating around the bush
墟市政策不應令人感到困惑，而政府亦不應浸淫在一套官僚怠惰中。
The policy on bazaars should not be perplexing and the Government should not indulge itself in bureaucratic laziness
代理主席，這項議案的主題是關於鄭松泰議員尋求本會委任一個專責委員會，並且授權這個專責委員會根據《立法會條例》所賦予的權力，調查鄭議員所指香港鐵路有限公司涉嫌隱瞞沙田至中環線紅磡站新月台進行的建造工程被指稱不合規格一事，以及其他相關事宜。
Deputy President the subject of this motion is that Dr CHENG Chung - tai seeks the consent of this Council to appoint a select committee and empower it to invoke the powers under the Legislative Council Ordinance to according to Dr CHENG inquire into the incident about the suspected concealment by the MTR Corporation Limited MTRCL of the alleged substandard construction works carried out at the new platforms of Hung Hom station of the Shatin to Central Link SCL and other related matters
"尚方寶劍"象徵無上權力，當某件事情被大多數市民認為涉及重大公眾利益，有必要弄清楚來龍去脈，但按一般程序卻無法深入跟進的時候，便要動用 這把"尚方寶劍"來調查，這樣才算必要和恰當。
An imperial sword which symbolizes mighty power will only be used to inquire into an incident considered by the majority to be involved with significant public interest and hence it is necessary to find out its ins and outs but in - depth follow - up action cannot be taken in the usual manner . Under such a situation it will be essential and appropriate to use the imperial sword
我和經民聯的議員一致認為，這是大家在權衡利弊，考慮應否動用這把"尚方寶劍"時，必須緊守的基本原則。
Members of the Hong Kong Association for Democracy and Peoples Livelihood ADPL and I are of the view that this is the basic principle that we must strictly adhere to when weighing the pros and cons of using this imperial sword
就這項議案而言，在6月8日的內務委員會會議上，鄭松泰議員亦曾就同一議題提出相關的要求，而各黨派議員當時已經各抒己見，表達各自的立場。
Concerning this motion a similar request was made by Dr CHENG Chung - tai on the same subject at the meeting of the House Committee held on 8 June and Members from different parties had already expressed their different views and positions
在議員表決後，有關的要求不獲支持，如今在立法會會議上再作辯論，等於將一碟冷飯翻炒再翻炒。
The matter was then put to vote and the request was not supported . Thus the discussion of the matter at the Council meeting today is tantamount to revisiting old issues time and again
我在該次內務委員會會議上發言時指出，"港鐵公司應調查該事件發生的原因及其監察制度是否存在問題......港鐵公司已承諾於是次會議後一星期內向政府當局提交報告"。
When I spoke at the relevant House Committee meeting I pointed out that MTRCL should investigate why the incident occurred and whether there were any problems in its monitoring system MTRCL had undertaken to submit a report to the Administration in the week after this meeting
我因此強調，"若政府當局不滿意該報告，可成立獨立調查委員會對該事件進行調查。
I therefore stressed that if the Administration found the report unsatisfactory it could set up an independent commission of inquiry to conduct an investigation into the incident
港鐵沙中線紅磡站剪短鋼筋事件無疑涉及公眾安全，並已引起社會廣泛關注，而立法會和政府亦高度重視。
There is no doubt that the cutting of steel bars at Hung Hom Station of SCL involves public safety and has aroused widespread public concern . The Legislative Council and the Government have also attached great importance to the incident
在6月12日，行政長官林鄭月娥女士決定根據香港法例第86章《調查委員會條例》成立獨立調查委員會徹查事件，並委任前終審法院非常任法官夏正民領導調查，預計需時6個月完成。
On 12 June Chief Executive Mrs Carrie LAM decided to establish an independent Commission of Inquiry under the Commissions of Inquiry Ordinance to conduct a comprehensive investigation and appointed former non - permanent Judge of the Court of Final Appeal Mr Michael John HARTMANN to lead the inquiry which is expected to take six months
這是根據《調查委員會條例》成立的調查委員會，調查研訊屬司法程序，並具有法定權力傳召人士作供，或出示任何物品或文件，是名副其實的"有牙老虎"。
The Commission of Inquiry is set up under the Commissions of Inquiry Ordinance and the inquiry is a judicial proceeding . Also it has the statutory power to summon witnesses to give evidence or to produce any item or document and is therefore a genuine tiger with teeth
以往就2012年南丫島海難事件和2015年公屋鉛水事件成立的調查委員會，都是可以參考的事例。
Examples of commission of inquiry previously set up include the inquiry into the marine disaster near Lamma Island in 2012 and the lead - in - water incident in 2015
法官夏正民曾於2014年擔任調查廣深港高鐵香港段工程項目延誤和超支的獨立專家小組主席，熟悉鐵路工程事宜，是領導調查委員會的合適人選。
In 2014 Mr Justice Michael John HARTMANN was the Chairman of the Independent Expert Panel to inquire into the delays and cost overruns of the Hong Kong Section of the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link XRL project . Being well - versed in railway projects he is therefore the appropriate person to lead the Commission of Inquiry
我亦向媒體表示，調查委員會的成員應為熟悉香港工程業界情況和管理模式的獨立專業工程師，以助調查今次的工程事故。
I once told the media that members of the Commission of Inquiry should be independent professional engineers who are familiar with the situation and the management of Hong Kongs engineering industry to facilitate the investigation of this engineering incident
當局正在草擬調查委員會的職權範圍等細節，並於稍後尋求行政會議通過。
Details such as the terms of reference are being drafted by the Administration and will be submitted to the Executive Council for approval later
不過，特首已經指出，調查委員會須找出事件的原因和受影響範圍，並因應相關問題檢討港鐵公司工程的監管制度、政府規管鐵路工程的機制，從而提出建議，以保障工程的質量和安全。
However as pointed out by the Chief Executive the Commission of Inquiry has to examine the cause of the incident and the extent of the impact as well as review MTRCLs supervision system and the Governments mechanism of controlling railway projects in the light of the problems identified with a view to making recommendations to ensure the quality and safety of works
當局希望委員會聚焦調查沙中線紅磡站的鋼筋問題，否則會令調查失去焦點。
The Administration hoped that the Commission of Inquiry would focus on the problems of steel bars at Hung Hom Station of SCL otherwise the inquiry would be out of focus
我也認同土瓜灣站的工程問題，與紅磡站的情況並不相同，不應混為一談。
I also agree that the works problem relating to To Kwa Wan station is different from that of Hung Hom Station and thus cannot be lumped together
代理主席，對於政府成立獨立調查委員會的決定，立法會內不同黨派的議員基本上予以認同和支持。
Deputy President with regard to the decision of the Government to set up an independent Commission of Inquiry Legislative Council Members belonging to different political parties and groupings have basically expressed their endorsement and support
我期望調查委員會的調查結果，能夠提升港鐵公司在施工管理和程序上的可追溯性及風險管理。
I hope that the findings of the Commission of Inquiry can enhance the traceability and risk management of MTRCLs control system and processes
再加上，根據過往的相關討論，不難推斷某些議員的討論焦點有可能會過分集中於政府官員或港鐵公司管理層的問責問題，容易流於對事不對人，忽略真正需要解決的問題，恐怕只會令調查工作流於政治化及變得更複雜。
What is more it is not difficult to tell from similar discussions in the past that certain Members may in the course of discussion place too much emphasis on the accountability of government officials or the management of MTRCL and take the matter too personal thereby overlooking the genuine need to tackle the problem . I am afraid that this would only make the investigation too political and complicated
代理主席，公眾關心的是探究紅磡站剪短鋼筋事件的真相，找出有否違規甚至違法的事實，追究責任，從而汲取經驗教訓。
Deputy President it is the concern of the public to probe into the truth of the cutting of steel bars at Hung Hom Station and find out if there are any irregularities or even unlawful acts with a view to affixing responsibilities and learning a lesson from the incident
涉及公眾安全的事件，公眾知情權是應有之義，但我們亦應明白，這些工程問題屬技術含量很高的專業性問題，一般市民並不容易掌握。
While it is justified for people to have the right to know about any incident involving public safety we understand that the problems involved are highly technical and professional in nature and the general public may not be able to grasp easily
在事件發生後，有社會人士根據一鱗半爪的資料甚至傳聞，作瞎子摸象的揣測或指控，捕風捉影，以訛傳訛。
After the incident some members of the public made groundless speculation or accusation based on incomplete information and even hearsay and then incorrectly relayed erroneous messages
我們應該將問題交由合資格的專業人士處理，否則，既可能引起公眾不必要的恐慌，亦會嚴重影響本港工程行業多年來建立的聲譽。
We should therefore leave the matter in the hands of qualified professionals otherwise it may cause unnecessary panic among the public and seriously undermine the reputation established by the local engineering industry over the years
事實上，以往本港眾多大型基建工程，甚少出現設計或施工方面的嚴重失誤。
As a matter of fact although Hong Kong has launched numerous major infrastructure projects in the past serious mistakes in design or construction are uncommon
香港的建造業多年來已發展出一整套可靠、穩健而全面的設計、檢測及工料測試制度，其專業水平及建設成果有目共睹，例如香港國際機場及青馬大橋均廣泛獲得國際認同和讚譽。
Over the years our construction industry has already developed a reliable robust and comprehensive system of design inspection and material testing . The professional standards and achievements attained are evident to all . The Hong Kong International Airport and Tsing Ma Bridge for example have received worldwide recognition and praises
工程設計的基本要求，是要充分考慮工藝及建築物料的特性，在施工過程中有可能造成或出現的偏差。
The basic requirement of engineering design is to take into full consideration the possible changes or inconsistencies that may arise in respect of workmanship and quality specifications of materials during the construction processes
每一個建築工序都要由專業技工執行，而過程中亦要有嚴格的檢測程序，以保證施工質量達標和一致。
All the construction procedures must be carried out by professional mechanics and stringent testing procedures have been introduced to ensure that the quality of construction meet the required standard and is consistent
建築材料在送達工地的前後均會進行測試，以確保符合標準。
Furthermore construction materials will be tested both before and after delivery to the site to ensure that they comply with the standard
對於鋼筋及混凝土等結構性材料的測試及追蹤等要求則更為嚴格，以確保公眾安全。
As for structural materials such as steel bars and concrete the requirements for testing and tracing are far more stringent so as to ensure public safety
關鍵的工序及重要的施工過程必須建立檢查點，例如在注入混凝土前，必須確定所有物料合乎標準，並已根據圖則安裝。
Inspection points must be established for critical procedures and important construction processes for example prior to the injection of concrete it is imperative to confirm that all the materials comply with the standards and have been installed according to the plan
如果在施工過程中出現瑕疵或錯誤，獨立專業人士會發出不合規報告，要求先行修正有關問題，然後才展開下一個工序，而不合規報告列出的所有不合規事項都必須獲得妥善處理，工程才可以正式竣工。
In case defects or errors are identified during the construction process non - compliance reports will be issued by independent professionals requiring rectification of the irregularities before proceeding to the next step . All irregularities listed in the non - compliance report must be properly dealt with before the project can be formally completed
有關方面應如何改善整個監管架構及加強社會監管的力度和透明度，從而避免工程的失誤和延誤？
How can the authorities improve the entire monitoring structure and enhance the effectiveness and transparency of monitoring by society thereby minimizing the chance of errors or delays?
若有嚴重的失誤或延誤，又應如何妥善處理，並適時與公眾溝通？
What should be done to properly deal with the serious blunders or delays and communicate with the general public in a timely manner?
這些都是政府與港鐵公司需要深入檢討和研究的問題。
These are the issues that the Government and MTRCL have to thoroughly review and consider
不過，我們也要避免陷入另一個極端，就是社會上可能有意見要求增加港鐵公司的監管或上報程序，甚至要求事事向政府呈報。
However we should also be mindful not to go to the other extreme and in response to public views tighten the control or reporting procedures of MTRCL or even require it to report to the Government on all matters
了解業界運作的人會認為這樣反應過敏，流於形式，只會增加額外的工作量，拖慢工程進度，以及減低工程施工運作的靈活性，對於工程的安全及質量的監控並無實質幫助。
Those who are familiar with the operation of the industry might consider this over - vigilant and is nothing more than a formality that would simply create additional workload slow down the works progress and reduce the flexibility of the operation . It does not provide any concrete assistance in enhancing the safety of the project and quality control
代理主席，我謹此陳辭，反對鄭松泰議員的議案。
Deputy President with these remarks I oppose Dr CHENG Chung - tais motion
我是今天早上第一個就鄭松泰議員根據《立法會條例》動議的議案發言的議員。
I am the first Member to speak on the motion moved by Dr CHENG Chung - tai under the Legislative Council Ordinance this morning
我特別留言議案的措辭，主要是針對紅磡站新月台進行的建造工程被指稱不合規格一事，以及其他的相關事項。
I have paid particular attention to the wordings of the motion which is mainly related to the alleged substandard construction works carried out at the new platforms of Hung Hom Station and other related matters
由5月30日傳媒開始報道至今，整條沙中線不斷出現事故。
Since the media started to report on the blunders of the Shatin to Central Link SCL on 30 May incidents have happened one after another
如果再要推前一點，就是今年3月紅磡隧道出現的鋼筋接駁問題。
Earlier in March this year a problem concerning the connection of steel bars was found at the Hung Hom Tunnel
潘先生特別指出，他所作的口供全部都沒有記載在報告之中。
Mr POON specifically pointed out that all his statements had not been included in the report
據他理解，剪鋼筋的機器不是普通機器，工人還要特別將機器搬出來，以加快剪鋼筋的速度。
According to his understanding the machine used to cut steel bars was not an ordinary machine . Workers have to use a special machine to speed up the cutting of steel bars
主席，你可能也有留意到，沙中線與高鐵的工程有一個類似的地方，兩者都是以委託協議的模式進行。
President you may also notice that there is a similarity between the projects of SCL and the Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link XRL . Both projects are carried out under entrustment agreements
我不禁要問，為甚麼政府可以預知損失不會超過79億元？
I cannot help but ask why the Government can predict that its losses will not exceed 7.9 billion
我想知道，究竟特區政府有沒有跟港鐵公司議價？
I would like to know if the SAR Government has bargained with MTRCL
今時今日這樣的服務態度，真的不行。
Such kind of service attitude is really unacceptable today
主席，當時法官夏正民已經指出，港鐵公司內有很多稀奇古怪的事情。
President at that time Mr Justice Michael John HARTMANN had pointed out the many absurdities in MTRCL
撰寫這份報告的時候，專家小組翻閱了港鐵公司提交的兩份報告。
When writing this report the Expert Panel had read the two reports submitted by MTRCL
該兩份報告是港鐵內部的獨立董事撰寫，跟這次要求的安排不同。
The reports were written by independent directors of MTRCL which is different from the arrangement requested this time
我覺得最精彩的是，第3.24段早已說出："港鐵公司獨立董事委員會的第一份報告載述事例，顯示個別身居要職者原應就其所知有關高鐵香港段項目的重大延誤進言，但他們沒有這樣做。
I find the most apt description in paragraph 3.24 MTRCLs first IBC Report identifies instances of individuals in key positions failing to communicate what they knew in respect of the significance of delays to XRL
究其原因，部分可能是由於港鐵公司的內部文化，不鼓勵在問題尚未找到解決辦法前，把壞消息上報，部分則可能是項目管理團隊在沒有事實支持下，對項目抱樂觀態度。
This may be partly due to the culture within MTRCL that apparently discouraged the elevation of bad news without solutions and partly due to unfounded optimism within the Project Team
無論屬何情況，溝通失效令港鐵公司和政府高層看不見工程延誤的真正嚴重程度。
Either way this failure in communication left senior officers in MTRCL and Government unsighted as to the true severity of delays
紅磡站出事，充分反映在委託協議內，有沒有一些條款令香港特區政府不能好好監察港鐵公司，亦令港鐵公司要在大氣電波向禮頓建築有限公司這一類公司作公開呼籲，要求它公開交代，連大判都拿它沒辦法。
The problems at Hung Hom Station can fully reflect that there are no provisions in the entrustment agreement that enables the HKSAR Government to monitor MTRCL . Moreover MTRCL can only make public appeals through the airwaves to companies like Leighton Contractors Asia Limited urging it to give an account to the public . Even the contractor can do nothing
這些合約問題，如果局長有時間，可以看看專家小組報告，裏面都有提出。
Regarding these contractual problems if the Secretary has time he can read the Expert Panel report which had mentioned all these points
雖然並無證據顯示匯報失實，但有證據顯示下列"一大堆的問題。
While there was no evidence of inaccurate reporting there was evidence of the following shortcomings
主席，主要原因是，專家小組並非一個有法定權力，可傳召證人、搜證或要求證人交出文件及相關資料的專責小組或調查委員會。
President it is mainly because the Expert Panel is not a task force or a committee of inquiry with statutory power to summon witnesses collect evidence or request witnesses to hand over documents and related information
但是，如果立法會願意援引《條例》成立專責委員會，正如我剛才所說，調查範圍我們可以自行決定，而我們絕對有能力、有智慧，無論是建制或泛民，大家可以合作訂出一個調查範圍，不會架床疊屋。
Yet if the Legislative Council is willing to invoke the Ordinance to set up a select committee we can as I said earlier determine the scope of investigation . Pro - establishment Members and the pan - democrats absolutely have the ability and wisdom to work together to draw up the scope of investigation and avoid duplication
時間越拖得久，證據便越危險，而人的記憶，亦會隨時間而改變，甚至消失。
The longer the delay the more dangerous the evidence becomes as peoples memory will change or even disappear over time
主席，我發言支持鄭松泰議員要求立法會委任一個專責委員會，根據《立法會條例》調查香港鐵路有限公司涉嫌隱瞞沙田至中環線紅磡站新月台進行的建造工程被指稱不合規格一事，以及其他相關事宜。
President I speak in support of Dr CHENG Chung - tais request for the Legislative Council to appoint a select committee under the Legislative Council Ordinance to inquire into the suspected concealment of the alleged substandard construction works carried out at the new platforms of Hung Hom Station of the Shatin to Central Link SCL by the MTR Corporation Limited MTRCL and other related matters
主席，很多議員已就這議題發言，而我當然也認為立法會有責任就沙中線工程的嚴重事故展開獨立調查。
President a number of Members have already spoken on this subject and I surely reckon that the Legislative Council is duty - bound to conduct an independent investigation into the serious incident relating to the SCL project
有建制派議員甚至政府都不贊成立法會展開調查，主要的理據是特首已根據《調查委員會條例》成立獨立調查委員會展開調查，所以立法會無須另行再作調查。
Some Members of the pro - establishment camp and even the Government opposed the proposed investigation by the Legislative Council for the major reason that the Chief Executive has already set up an independent Commission of Inquiry under the Commissions of Inquiry Ordinance to commence an investigation . Hence the Legislative Council needs not conduct another investigation
由於3年前的鉛水超標事件，我當時亦曾要求特首成立調查委員會，調查公屋鉛水超標事件。
Three years ago I had also requested the Chief Executive to set up a Commission of Inquiry to inquire into the incident of excessive lead in drinking water in public rental housing PRH estates
經過觀察調查委員會的工作後，我認為即使立法會自行展開調查，也不會與調查委員會的調查工作產生衝突或矛盾，可以雙軌並行。
After observing the work of the Commission of Inquiry I held that even if the Legislative Council conducted its own investigation it would not clash or contradict with the work of the Commission of Inquiry and the two investigations could be conducted in parallel
我認為立法會應自行成立專責委員會調查，是因為我是立法會議員，特別是九龍西的直選議員。
I think the Legislative Council should set up a select committee to conduct its own investigation because I am a Member of the Legislative Council in particular a directly elected Member from Kowloon West
事實上，沙中線的東西走廊甚至過海線有多個車站均位於九龍西選區。
As a matter of fact a number of stations along the East West Corridor and even the Cross Harbour Section are located within the Kowloon West constituency
作為直選議員，我得悉區內居民都很想知道，現已啟用的何文田站也是沙中線其中一個站，究竟該站是否安全？
As a directly elected Member I understand that local residents are very eager to know if Ho Man Tin Station one of the SCL stations which has been commissioned is safe
政府成立的調查委員會的職能範圍較窄，只局限於紅磡站，而如果大家有留意鄭松泰議員提出的議案，他建議根據《條例》調查沙中線工程，調查的不止是紅磡站，還包括其他相關事宜，所以調查範圍會較闊。
The terms of reference of the Committee of Inquiry set up by the Government is rather narrow in scope and the inquiry is only confined to Hung Hom Station . If Members have paid attention to the motion moved by Dr CHENG Chung - tai they would know that he proposes to invoke the Ordinance to inquire into the SCL project and other related matters but not merely matters related to Hung Hom Station . The scope of investigation is thus wider
換言之，如果只靠政府的調查委員會，我們只會知道紅磡站的調查結果。
In other words if we rely solely on the Governments Commission of Inquiry we will only obtain the findings concerning Hung Hom Station
與上次調查鉛水事件一樣，特首當時也是說只調查公屋"鉛水邨"，所以調查委員會不會調查該11個公共屋邨以外地方的食水含鉛量有否超標。
As in the case of the last investigation into the lead - in - water incident back then the Chief Executive had also confined the investigation to PRH estates found to have excessive lead in drinking water thus the Committee of Inquiry had not examined if there was excessive lead in the drinking water of places other than those 11 PRH estates
民主派議員很希望可以運用《條例》所賦予的權力，執行議員的職務，代表我們選區的居民及香港市民了解整件事的來龍去脈。
Pro - democracy Members on the other hand are very eager to invoke the powers conferred by the Ordinance to discharge our duties and to find out on behalf of the residents of our constituencies and the people of Hong Kong the ins and outs of the incident . In the past we were proud to be citizens of Hong Kong
我們過往以身為香港人為傲，認為香港的建築工程質量很高，還取笑第三世界國家或內地的"豆腐渣"工程，但我們現在反被取笑興建"豆腐沙中線"，真的很可悲。
We thought that construction projects in Hong Kong are of a very high standard and even ridiculed the tofu - dreg construction works in the third world countries or in the Mainland . However we are now being ridiculed for building a tofu - dreg SCL . It is indeed very pathetic
為何香港工程界的專業會淪落至此。
How come the engineering profession of Hong Kong has degenerate to such a state?
水喉不單會流出鉛水，亦會流出銅水，還有銅鹽。
Water flowing out from taps do not only contain lead but also copper and even copper salts
這顯然是有人在察覺到有監察漏洞後"出古惑"，但卻被人發現。
Apparently someone had taken advantage of the monitoring loophole and adopted underhand tactics but was being discovered
我認為最可悲的是，立法會內雖有相關功能界別的議員，但他們從未嘗試了解工程界別的整體文化，一層層的分判系統及當中涉及的層層監管是否到位，以及為何會出現這麼多漏洞。
To me it is most saddening that while there are Members belonging to the relevant functional constituency in the Legislative Council they have never tried to understand the general culture of the engineering sector . They have not tried to find out whether the multi - layer subcontracting system and the multi - level supervision system are effective and why there are so many loopholes
因此，主席，我們必須以議員的身份展開調查。
Therefore President we must conduct an investigation in our capacity as Members of the Legislative Council
這樣不單可以自行釐定調查範圍，不止是研究沙中線紅磡站，也要一併研究其他車站，包括土瓜灣站。
By so doing we can decide that the scope of investigation should not be confined to Hung Hom Station of SCL but also cover other stations such as To Kwa Wan Station
不單禮頓出現問題，連三星新昌也出現問題。
Leighton is not the only contractor that has problems SHC also has its problems
正如我們在調查鉛水事件時發現，不單有利建築有問題，也不止是中國建築有問題，而是4間負責水喉工程的公司皆有問題。
Similarly when we investigated the lead - in - water incident we found that the problems did not merely arise in Yau Lee Construction Company Limited and China State Construction International Holdings Limited but also in the four contractors responsible for the plumbing works
主席，我堅持立法會議員有其調查角色，是因為如果我們把整個問題推給那個調查委員會，特首確會委任一至兩位資深大律師主持會議，並代表公眾和政府質問相關的持份者，包括運輸及房屋局、路政署、發展局及有關承建商等，傳召相關的持份者出席調查委員會的會議，而他們亦會聘請全城最昂貴的律師代表他們，跟政府打這場仗。
If we leave the investigation work to the Commission of Inquiry the Chief Executive will surely appoint one to two Senior Counsels to preside at the meeting . They will on behalf of the general public and the Government put questions to the relevant stakeholders including the Transport and Housing Bureau HyD the Development Bureau and the contractors in question . These stakeholders will be summoned to attend before the Commissioner of Inquiry to give evidence
那麼議員有何角色？
What are the roles of Members?
從良好及正面的心態來看，我們是要查找真相。
Our well - intentioned and positive objective is to dig the truth up
首先，究竟被剪的鋼筋是20枝還是5,000枝？
First of all how many steel bars had been cut short 20 or 5 000?
主席，今次香港鐵路有限公司出現工程問題，大家都十分關心，並非如黃碧雲議員所說的我們不關心，他們才關心。
President all of us are very concerned about the works problems of the MTR Corporation Limited MTRCL in this incident . Dr Helena WONG was wrong to say that we did not show any concern and only they were concerned about the issue
不單每位議員關心，日後每天經此車站乘搭港鐵的市民更擔心，會因為結構問題而影響到人身安全。
Every Member of the Legislative Council is concerned about the problems . In future when members of the public have to go to Hung Hom station every day to take MTR trains they are even more worried because the structural problems may affect their personal safety
我們詳細閱讀港鐵公司的報告，當中承建商已經指出，設計雖然有改動，但不會對內牆及鄰近樓梯和自動扶手電梯構成任何安全風險。
We have carefully read MTRCLs report . The contractor points out that although there are changes to the design the safety of the internal wall and the adjacent staircases and escalators will not be affected
當然，我們對此並不滿意，因為報告沒有指出為何會發生這問題，亦沒有說清楚究竟港鐵公司的管理責任為何，或路政署為何會讓這樣的情況出現。
Certainly we are dissatisfied with the report because it does not explain the causes of the problems the specific management responsibilities of MTRCL as well as why the Highways Department has allowed the problems to occur
代理主席，每當要啟動《條例》，我們均會考慮政府是否沒能力或不肯調查，甚至是否政府調查後無法提出合理結果向公眾交代，而我們亦不接受，才可以適時啟動《條例》這把"尚方寶劍"。
Deputy President every time before we invoke the Ordinance we will consider whether the Government is incapable or unwilling to inquire into the incident concerned; or whether the Government still fails to give a reasonable account to the public after an inquiry is conducted . It is only when Members find the situation unacceptable that we invoke the Ordinance to use the imperial sword as appropriate
所以，一些反對派議員有時候胡說八道，是絕不可信的。
Thus one should definitely not be deceived by the nonsense remark made by some opposition Members