Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
現時的做法是，當私隱專員在發現有人違反私隱保障原則後，會發出執行通知，如對方仍然拒絕跟從，才屬於刑事罪行。
Under the current practice when the Privacy Commissioner finds that a person is in breach of the privacy protection principle an enforcement notice will be issued; and if that person deliberately refuses to comply with the notice he will be held criminally liable for the offence
換言之，即使公署查明並有證據，有人故意遺失香港選民資料，但基於現行法律制度的規限下，不會有任何人需要承擔任何的刑事責任。
In other words even if PCPD finds that there is evidence to substantiate the complaint and that the loss of data of Hong Kong electors is deliberately caused by someone still no one will be held criminally liable for the offence under the existing legal system
同時，如果今次查明屬實是有人失職或需要負上責任，立法會也可以在調查報告中作出不同程度的建議和結論。
At the same time if the allegation of dereliction of duty on the part of someone is substantiated or someone has to be held responsible for the incident the Legislative Council can also make different recommendations and draw different conclusions in our investigation report
所以，總結是很清楚的。
Hence the conclusion is very clear
在三權分立下，行政當局可以讓其行政部門展開調查，包括警方就遺失資料事件作刑事調查或公署根據其法定權力展開調查，但行政當局必須要尊重立法會的獨立調查權，因為這獨立調查權是法定的，而且受到《基本法》的授權。
Under separation of powers the executive authorities can allow their administrative departments to carry out investigations including the Police which can launch a criminal investigation into the data loss incident and PCPD which can conduct an investigation in accordance with its statutory power . However the Executive Authorities must respect the Legislative Councils power to launch its independent investigation because this power of conducting independent investigation is statutory and authorized by the Basic Law
理論上，官員最低限度要聆聽議員的看法是否有道理、有公信力，以及參考國際的經驗和案例，這樣才可以令社會有更大的進步；而不是在完全未聆聽意見的情況下，便一口斷定立法會沒有必要展開調查，並全面反對。
Theoretically government officials should at least listen to Members views to see if they are justified and credible and should take reference from international experience and precedents so that we can have better social progress instead of arbitrarily disagree to the need for the Legislative Council to launch an investigation and fully object to our proposal without listening to our views
所以，對於這種其實明顯是為反對而反對的意見，我表示遺憾。
I find their approach of opposing for the sake of opposing very regrettable
最後，我必須指出，政府的所有調查，是根據部門本身的法律權力和法律限制來進行調查，如現有的法例或政府的調查有任何不足，政府部門本身不會調查到結果，亦不在其權力範圍內，這便要立法會根據法定權力，監察政府，調查政府所作的調查有否不足，研究有否其他的法規需要修訂。
Finally I have to highlight that all the investigations of the Government are carried out in accordance with the legal powers vested in the respective departments within the confines of the law . In case there is any inadequacy in the existing legislation or investigations of the Government which make the government departments unable to find out any result from their investigations or in case the issues concerned are not within their purviews we will need the Legislative Council in accordance with the statutory power vested in it to monitor the Government inquire into any inadequacy in the investigations conducted by the Government and study any need to amend other legislation
這3方面是立法會享有的獨特權力，希望政府充分了解和尊重立法會，在三權分立制度下互補，以及互相為社會改善現時的不足之處，同意立法會根據《權力及特權條例》成立專責委員會，進行調查。
The Legislative Council enjoys a unique power in these three aspects and I hope that the Government can fully understand and respect the Legislative Council . Under the system of separation of powers the three branches should complement each other and address existing inadequacies together for the sake of improving our society . I hope that the Government can agree with the Legislative Council in setting up a select committee in accordance with the Ordinance to carry out an investigation
代理主席，個人私隱是重要的，也是非常敏感的問題。
Deputy President issues concerning personal data and privacy are important and highly sensitive
香港是一個高度重視私隱的社會，加上近年電話騙案越來越嚴重，所以特區政府各部門更必須保護好市民的個人私隱，以免市民的個人資 料落入不法匪徒手中，繼而導致更多騙案或市民的損失。
Hong Kong attaches a great of importance to privacy and given the increasingly rampant cases of telephone scam in recent years it is all the more essential for the departments under the SAR Government to properly protect the peoples personal privacy lest the peoples personal data will fall into the wrong hands of some lawbreakers further causing more scams or damage to the public
故此，對於選舉事務處職員在亞洲博覽館遺失載有全港登記選民個人資料的手提電腦，導致全港378萬選民的資料有機會外泄，落入不法匪徒手中，身為立法會議員，我絕對不能接受。
Therefore as a legislator I totally cannot accept that staff members of the Registration and Electoral Office REO have lost the notebook computers containing personal data of all registered electors in Hong Kong at the AsiaWorld - Expo which may possibly lead to a leakage of personal data of all 3.78 million electors in the territory to the lawless people
特區政府必須用盡一切可行的辦法，以最高度重視的態度，全力追緝遺失的電腦，甚至懸紅緝兇，以保護我們378萬選民的私隱。
The SAR Government must take the incident really seriously and make its best endeavours to recover the lost computers or even offering a reward for arresting the suspects in order to protect the privacy of 3.78 million electors
此外，特區政府亦應做好網絡保安的工作，一旦發現失竊的檔案和資料在網上傳閱，政府必須第一時間封鎖資訊，並追查源頭，確保將盜竊電腦的匪徒繩之於法。
Moreover the SAR Government should also duly maintain Internet security . Once the lost files or data are found circulating on the web the Government must instantly block the dissemination and track the source to ensure that the suspects are brought to justice
我亦促請選舉事務處檢討現時保管選民個人資料的制度和措施。
I also urge the REO to review its current system and measures concerning the maintenance of electors personal data
究竟一名選舉事務處職員是否真的有必要帶着全港378萬選民的個人資料隨處走呢？
Was it really necessary for a REO staff to bring along the personal data all 3.78 million electors in Hong Kong?
這會否大大增加資料外泄的風險呢？
Would this substantially increase the risk of leakage?
個人私隱是重要的，選舉事務處是否可以把如此重要的資料，輕易交到一位職員手上呢？
In light of the importance concerning personal privacy was it right that REO casually allowed handing this kind of important information to a single staff member?
究竟全港選民的個人資料是否獲得足夠的保障呢？
Are the personal data of electors in Hong Kong sufficiently protected?
此外，對於這宗複雜的案件，我也摸不着頭腦。
Furthermore I indeed have no idea about this complicated case
雖然亞洲博覽館的保安嚴密，館內布滿閉路電視，但存放遺失兩部電腦的房間門口剛好沒有裝上閉路電視，無法覆蓋，導致調查困難，這是否又是另一個巧合呢？
Despite the strict security at the AsiaWorld - Expo where the site is under heave surveillance the close - circuit television cameras were coincidentally not able to cover the entrance of the room in which the two lost computers were stored causing difficulties to the investigation . Was this another coincidence?
究竟這次遺失電腦事件是意外，還是人為的預謀呢？
Was this merely an accident or premeditated?
我覺得這些問題都需要政府有關當局和警方作出調查，甚至要求政府官員問責。
The Government and the Police should also investigate these questions or even holding relevant government officials accountable
代理主席，不過，我反對鄭松泰議員的議案，反對在立法會委任專責委員會，以《立法會條例》徹查事件。
Deputy President I reject the motion moved by Dr CHENG Chung - tai however . I reject appointing a select committee in the Legislative Council and inquire into the incident under the Legislative Council Ordinance
立法會的時間是寶貴和有限的，每一分、每一秒，都是市民的公帑，所以立法會工作必須用在刀口上，做好我們職能內的工作。
Due to the limited time available in the Council every minute and second in the legislature is precious as our operation is financed by public money . So the Legislative Council must put in effort where it is due and suitably perform our functions and duties within our purview
身為立法會議員，我們必須清楚了解立法會的職權。
As Members of the Legislative Council we must clearly understand the powers and functions of the Legislative Council
根據《基本法》第七十三條所列立法會的十大職權包括"......依照法定程序制定、修改和廢除法律"；"根據政府的提案，審核、通過財政預算"；"批准稅收和公共開支"；"聽取行政長官的施政報告並進行辯論"；而最重要的是"對政府的工作提出質詢"和"就任何有關公共利益問題進行辯論"。
Article 73 of the Basic Law stipulates 10 powers and functions of the Legislative Council including [t]o enact amend or repeal laws in accordance with the provisions of legal procedures; [t]o examine and approve budgets introduced by the Government; [t]o approve taxation and public expenditure; [t]o receive and debate the policy addresses of the Chief Executive; and most importantly [t]o raise questions on the work of the Government and [t]o debate any issue concerning public interests
然而，請大家看清楚，立法會議員的工作不包括調查失竊案。
However please be reminded that the functions of legislators do not include investigating cases of theft
代理主席，我再次表達我完全同意遺失電腦的事件必須徹查，甚至要加強力度調查事件，但這究竟是立法會議員的工作，還是警方的 工作呢？
Deputy President I once again express my complete agreement to the need to thoroughly inquire into the incident of loss of the computers . They even have to strengthen the inquiry effort . But is it the job of the Legislative Council or the Police?
我想請問大家，難道立法會的查案功力比警方更為厲害嗎？
I want to ask my fellow Members if they consider themselves better investigators than the police officers?
否則的話，立法會憑甚麼認為警方也查不出的案件，立法會會有條件查出真相呢？
Otherwise why do Members believe that they have the qualities to uncover the truth behind a case which is unmanageable even for the policemen?
大家試想想，如果選舉事務處的職員遺失電腦，立法會便要引用《條例》來調查，那麼下次舉例來說如果有高官遺失一條鑰匙，又或有高官家中被爆竊，遺失一些文件，難道立法會又要進行調查嗎？
Imagine if it requires the Legislative Council to invoke the Ordinance for inquiring into the loss of computers kept by REO staff then say if a certain senior public officer lose a key in the future or if someone break into the residence of another officer and that some documents are found missing will we need the Legislative Council to conduct investigation as well?
現時在民主派不斷"拉布"下，很多政府法案的審議已被拖延，香港的經濟發展及民生改善經常受到嚴重影響。
The incessant filibuster staged by the pro - democracy camp has delayed the scrutiny of many government bills seriously hampering economic development and the improvement of the peoples livelihood in Hong Kong
我向市民解釋政府有責任確保須就每項向立法會提交的議案及問題與不同黨派的朋友充分溝通及會面。
I explain to members of the public that with regard to the bills and issues submitted to the Legislative Council the Government is duty - bound to ensure adequate communication and deliberation with different parties within the legislature
但是，有一點更為重要，便是我認為立法會最迫切的工作是集中精力審議政府的議案，反映市民心聲，而不是自作聰明，浪費政府資源來查案，做一些偏離立法會議員職權，吃力不討好的事情。
However more importantly I believe there is a pressing need for the Legislative Council to focus its energy on scrutinizing government bills and reflecting the peoples voices instead of trying to be smart and deviate from its right duties by consuming the governments resources on crime investigation which cannot be done effectively by a legislature . I must make myself clear before all of you in this Chamber
各位，我必須說清楚，鄭松泰議員這種千方百計、消耗立法會議員時間和精力的做法，胡亂提出議案和要求引用《條例》，蓄意製造爭議，是一種變相影響立法會發揮正常職能的手段，所以我必須堅決抵制。
Dr CHENG Chung - tai is in fact trying every tactics to consume the Councils time and energy and deliberately provoke conflicts by randomly moving motions and requesting the exercise of powers under the Ordinance . I must adamantly resist his plot to obstruct the Councils normal operation
代理主席，我重申我認為這事件性質嚴重，選舉事務處和警方必須加大力度調查事件。
Deputy President I reiterate that this is a serious incident and REO and the Police must work harder to unravel the details
選舉事務處亦必須檢討現行保障選民個人資料的程序和機制，甚至作出適當的問責和處分。
REO must also review its existing procedures and mechanisms relating to the protection of electors personal data and even implement appropriate accountability and disciplinary measures
不過，我反對鄭松泰議員的議案；反對引用《條例》徹查事件；反對任何影響立法會正常運作的鬧劇。
That said I reject Dr CHENG Chung - tais motion; reject invoking the Ordinance for initiating an inquiry; reject any farce that hinders the Legislative Councils normal operation
各位，香港的時間已有限，立法會的時間更有限，每項議案和發言，大家都要深思熟慮。
My fellow Members we do not have much time to waste in Hong Kong and time is even limited in the Legislative Council . Therefore we must think long and hard on every motion and speech
香港已再沒有本錢浪費時間，而立法會亦不是查案機關，以《條例》徹查電腦遺失事件，是不會水落石出的。
Hong Kong cannot afford to waste time anymore . As the Legislative Council is not the place for crime investigation we can never uncover the whole picture by invoking the Ordinance
所以，我希望大家認清這實況。
I hope Members can really understand this reality
代理主席，我重申我反對鄭松泰議員的議案。
Deputy President I repeat that I reject Dr CHENG Chung - tais motion
主席，我明白你已經聽到有點不耐煩，議員的發言已亂七八糟，提及愛滋病感染率、"男男"同性關係愛滋病感染率，這些與今天的議題有何關係？
Chairman I understand that you are a little impatient as Members speeches have turned into a mess . They talked about AIDS infection rate and AIDS infection rate among MSM partners . What do these have to do with the subject under discussion today?
但是，主席，我想指出一個規程問題，除了審議財政預算案的辯論之外，過去本會在全體委會員審議階 段，從沒有限制議員的發言時間。
However Chairman I would like to raise a point of order . Apart from the Budget debate this Council has never restricted the speaking time of Members at the Committee stage
主席，你有權因為離題、重複、瑣屑而停止議員的發言，但過去從未出現主席覺得聽夠了而不讓議員再發言。
Chairman you have the power to stop a Member whose speech is irrelevant repetitive or frivolous from speaking but there is no precedent for the Chairman to forbid Members to speak again because he has heard enough
但是，如果其他非修正案動議人還想發言，例如梁美芬議員還想發言，我支持她極力爭取，因為過去在全體委員會審議階段並無限制議員發言次數的先例。
However if any Member other than the movers of amendments such as Dr Priscilla LEUNG still wish to speak I support him to fight for that right as there is no precedent of setting a speaking time limit at the Committee stage . Chairman at the final stage of this debate session I must first make a fair comment on the Government
主席，在這場辯論的最後階段，首先我要為政府說句公道說話，《私營骨灰安置所條例草案》和政府提交的修正案，的確較2016年有所進步，最低限度引入了"相關人士"的概念，大家不應低估政府內部對於引入此建議的阻力及爭拗。
The Private Columbaria Bill the Bill together with the amendments submitted by the Government have indeed made some progress compared with the version in 2016 . The Bill has at the very least introduced the concept of related person . We should not underestimate the resistance to and dispute within the Government over introducing this proposal
公務員辦事，少做一點，煩惱會少一點，不做就不會錯。
For civil servants less work means less trouble and no work means no error
所以，引入"相關人士"的概念，政府內部應該經過辯論，亦有人努力游說，才得出現時政府提交的兩組修正案。
Hence the concept of related person should have gone through discussions and great persuasion efforts before being introduced in the two sets of amendments proposed by the Government
因此，我要感謝高局長，最低限度他要"開綠燈"，修正案才能提交立法會。
For this I must thank Secretary Dr KO for at least giving the green light so that the amendments could be submitted to the Legislative Council
上次在法案委員會討論《條例草案》通過之後會出現的問題，當時我問食物環境衞生署署長，政府在高級入境事務主任訴公務員事務局的司法覆核中敗訴，政府有否研究判詞，會否再考慮接納議員的修正案？
When we last discussed the possible consequences of the passage of the Bill in the Bills Committee I asked the Director of Food and Environmental Hygiene whether the Government would study the Judgment and reconsider accepting Members amendments after losing the judicial review of a Senior Immigration Officer vs Civil Service Bureau
我再問，如果政府不提出上訴，就應該接納議員的修正案？
I asked then whether the Government should accept Members amendments if it does not lodge an appeal
其實時辰差不多到了，如果政府要就高級入境事務主任訴公務員事務局一案提出上訴，28天的上訴限期差不多到了。
In fact the 28 - day appeal period is about to expire should the Government want to lodge an appeal against the case Senior Immigration Officer vs Civil Service Bureau
雖然袁國強司長未開口，但我覺得政府一定會上訴。
Although Secretary Rimsky YUEN has not yet announced so I believe the Government will definitely lodge an appeal
不過，如果政府上訴至終審法院敗訴，我覺得局長或下任局長有責任主動提出對這部分作出修改。
However if the Government loses its case in the Court of Final Appeal I reckon the Secretary or his successor has the duty to take the initiative to make amendments to this part of the legislation
上星期辯論預算案的時候，我遇到袁國強司長，我沒有正面問他會否就這宗司法覆核提出上訴，他當然不會私下回答我，如果決定了他就會公布。
I bumped into Secretary Rimsky YUEN at last weeks Budget debate . I did not ask him directly whether an appeal would be lodged against this judicial review Judgment . Of course he will publicly announce the decision instead of telling me in private
但是，他說其實與支持或反對無關，如此重要的政策，先尋求上訴法庭的意見會更好。
He said it is actually not about supporting or opposing it that he should better seek the views of the Court of Appeal when it comes to such an important policy
我希望下任局長或整個政府要抱持開放的態度，法例裏可以開啟些"方便之門"。
I hope the next Secretary or the entire Government should be open - minded and open a door of convenience in the legislation
我知道你們的原則是一定不直接承認外地或本地的同性伴侶關係，只會用其他稱呼來包裝，如"同居關係"、"親密關係"，不理會當中是一男一女、一男一男、一女一女，這就是局長所謂的性別中立，而性傾向及性關係也是中立。
I understand that the Government insists on not directly recognizing local or overseas same - sex relationships and that it will only package these relationships with other names such as cohabitation relationship or intimate relationship whether it involves one man and one woman two men or two women . This is what the Secretary considers gender - neutral both in respect of sexual orientation and sexual relation
在此，我要就自由黨的張宇人議員及邵家輝議員的發言稍作回應。
Here I will briefly respond to the speeches of Mr Tommy CHEUNG and Mr SHIU Ka - fai of the Liberal Party
我對於核心家庭價值沒有很大的包袱，甚至對離婚、婚外情、"二奶"、"三奶"都沒有價值判斷，我覺得是可以討論的，或者是兩人或數人之間的事。
I do not have any baggage when it comes to core family values . I do not even have any value judgments on divorces extramarital affairs and mistresses . I believe these issues are debatable or simply matters between two or several people
我的問題是，自由黨拉起橫額說要捍衞健康家庭價值，他們所指的健康家庭價值是甚麼？
My question is What do the healthy family values that the Liberal Party hoisted banners to defend refer to?
所以，在數年前看到自由黨掛上那張橫額時，我對朋友說，不要讓我知道自由黨"說一套、做一套"，"假道學"，把自己形容為道德高尚、健康家庭，怎料卻花天酒地，不要讓我拍攝到這個情況。
So when I saw the banner of the Liberal Party a few years ago I told my friend do not let me know that the Liberal Party is being hypocritical saying one thing but doing quite another . Do not let me catch them indulging in sensual pleasures while presenting themselves as people with high moral standards and healthy families
我當時的確語帶情緒，但當每個人都指出自己的價值觀的時候，請問自己的價值觀是甚麼。
I did speak with emotions at the time but when everyone points out their values please ask yourself what your values are
我曾經問周浩鼎議員，他的家庭價值與我的不同，分別在於一男一女，還是兩個人應該建立一個長久、穩定、互相扶持的關係呢？
I have once asked Mr Holden CHOW whose family values are different from mine this question . Does the difference lies in the view that a relationship should involve one man and one woman or that two people should build a relationship that is lasting stable and mutually supportive?
如果子女或兄弟姊妹是同性戀者，會寧願他每晚與不同的人一起，還是兩個人建立穩定的關係？
If ones child or sibling is a homosexual would one prefers that he or she spends every night with a different person or builds up a stable relationship with someone?
"有早知無乞兒"，今天通過修正案後，我當然會叫人購買骨灰龕位時記得寫明，無論是同性、異性、丈夫、"二 奶"等關係，總之想誰領取骨灰，便寫明他為獲授權代表，這樣已可解決問題。
Of course after the passage of the Bill today I will tell people to nominate authorized representatives to claim the ashes when purchasing columbarium niches whether they are of the same sex or of the opposite sex husbands or mistresses
辯論議題是，如果出現要爭奪的情況，我們按這項《條例草案》中的附表，可以如何處理呢？
The issue under debate is how should the situation be handled in accordance with the Schedule of the Bill in case of a fight for ashes?
所以，如果有人誤會了修正案未能通過，便不能取回骨灰，並非如此，而是優先次序和時間，以及有否名正言順的名份的問題。
Hence it is a misunderstanding that failure of the passage of the Bill means that the ashes cannot be claimed . It is a matter of priority and time and whether some people are given a proper status
李慧琼議員表示，由於現時"相關人士"的定義過闊，所以不能將"相關人士"提升至與親屬關係同等級別，如果訂立"同性伴侶"一項，她反而可考慮可否提升至與親屬關係同等級別，如果她真心這樣想，也算是躍進了一步。
Ms Starry LEE said related person cannot be given the same status as relative as the current definition of related person is too broad . On the contrary if the category same - sex partner is introduced she can consider giving it the same status as relative . It is a big step forward if she really thinks so
但是，政府不會這樣做，政府就是要包裝成性傾向中立，所以，"相關人士"的範圍非常闊，可以涵蓋很多人，正如李慧琼議員所舉的例子，同班同學在宿舍一起居住兩年，這樣的"宿友"也有權領取骨灰。
But the Government would not do so . The Government wants to package it as sexual orientation - neutral so the scope of related person is very broad covering a wide range of people . As in the example given by Ms Starry LEE classmates having lived together in a dormitory for two years have the right to claim ashes too
她的信仰喜歡"一夫多妻"，"一夫一妻"，"與男士結合、與女士結合"又如何，我沒有阻礙她的信仰自由。
Whether her religious belief prefers polygamy monogamy union of men or of women her freedom of conscience is not hindered
是否要尊重犯法者，而它以信仰自由來阻礙大家領取骨灰？
Do we have to respect lawbreakers while they use religious freedom to hinder people from claiming the ashes?
此外，有些人談到逆向歧視，這是混為一談。
Moreover some people mixed up the issue with reverse discrimination
當我們談到反歧視條例時，有可能會談及逆向歧視，但當我們討論同性婚姻或伴侶關係時，完全不能與逆向歧視或歧視法相提並論。
We may mention reverse discrimination when we talk about anti - discrimination ordinances but the discussion on same - sex marriage or partnership should not be compared in the same light with reverse discrimination or anti - discrimination legislation
第一，香港沒有歧視條例，當制定歧視條例後，如果有人表示不贊成同性戀或不租借地方給同性戀者，便觸犯歧視條例，那麼他由於其良心自由、信仰自由，現在反被法例所歧視，這便是逆向歧視。
First there is no such anti - discrimination legislation in Hong Kong . Once such legislation is enacted expressing disapproval of homosexuality or refusing to rent a place to homosexuals would constitute a breach of the law while reverse discrimination means ones freedom of conscience or freedom of religion is discriminated by the anti - discrimination legislation itself . The discussion on same - sex relationship does not involve reverse discrimination
但是，在同性伴侶關係方面是不存在的。
A netizen who supports the pro - democracy camp but opposes same - sex marriage told me Slow Beat I wish you find your other half as early possible but I cannot allow you to celebrate a marriage in my church
我呼籲大家支持張超雄議員提出的修正案，因為政府的修正案通過後，張超雄議員一樣可以動議其修正案。
I urge Members to support the amendment proposed by Dr Fernando CHEUNG because he can move the amendment all the same after the passage of the Governments amendments
主席，首先，我當然要回應何君堯議員的發言。
Chairman first of all I must definitely respond to the remarks made by Dr Junius HO
他昨天說《中山狼傳》，今天則說順手牽羊，亂用成語，他不禁令我想起前議員鍾樹根。
Yesterday he talked about Zhongshan Lang Zhuan . Today he talked about picking up a sheep in passing . His misuse of metaphors has brought to mind the former Member Mr Christopher CHUNG
他以《中山狼傳》作比喻，說明不可對狼有仁慈之心，因為狼會恩將仇報。
He quoted Zhongshan Lang Zhuan as an analogy to state that one should not be kind to a wolf for the wolf would repay kindness with evil
至於他剛才的解釋，我聽不到為何沒有歧視性小眾或爭取平權人士的成分。
Regarding the explanation given by him just now I cannot be convinced that there is no discrimination against sexual minorities or egalitarians therein
他說的恩將仇報，對畜牲不應有仁慈之心，又是比喻甚麼、針對甚麼？
What was his point in using the metaphor about repaying kindness with evil and refraining from being kind to creatures?
何君堯議員確實不大熟悉這項《條例草案》的審議過程，所以他剛才才會指有議員趁着政府於司法覆核個案中敗訴而順手牽羊，引入外國承認的婚姻關係。
Dr Junius HO is obviously not familiar with the course of events concerning the scrutiny of the Bill . That is why he would say earlier that certain Members were taking advantage of the judicial review case the Government just lost to include marriages recognized overseas
事實上，我們就這項問題已討論了超過兩年，何秀蘭在上屆立法會提出這項修正案，當時尚未發生高級入境事務主任訴公務員事務局的案件，也不知道誰勝誰敗，所以我們沒有順手牽羊。
In fact this issue has been discussed for over two years . This amendment was proposed by Cyd HO in the previous Legislative Council . At that time the case of the Senior Immigration Officer suing the Civil Service Bureau had not yet been filed and it was not known who would win the case
我也多謝李慧琼議員剛才的發言，雖然我完全不認同她上半段的發言，但她最後數分鐘的發言，確實比其他議員更能掌握辯論的事實。
Hence we have not taken advantage of the case . Also I would like to thank Ms Starry LEE for her earlier speech . Though I totally disagree with what she said in the first part of her speech the part she said in the last few minutes indicated that she had a better understanding of the facts of the debate
主席，我們今天辯論《私營骨灰安置所條例草案》，現已進入第六項辯論，辯論主題是在骨灰處置過程中，"相關人士"的定義，以及"相關人士"在申索骨灰過程中的優先權，只此而已。
Chairman the debate on the Private Columbaria Bill the Bill today is the sixth debate under the theme of definition of related person in the ash disposal procedures and the order of priority of related person in the course of claiming ashes and that is it
我們並非辯論《婚姻條例》，如果他們對同性婚姻有任何意見，不論是有保留、有懷疑或反對，將來還有很多機會可以提出。
We are not in a debate on the Marriage Ordinance . If they have any views on same - sex marriage be it of reservation doubt or opposition there will be lots of opportunities for them to express their views in the future
李慧琼議員說得很對，我的修正案並無僭建"親屬"的定義。
Ms Starry LEE was right in saying that my amendment has not slipped in any unauthorized structure to the definition of relative
可是，如果她認為其他議員的修正案是僭建"親屬"定義，那"僭建"這個字只是她的理解。
Yet if she considers the amendments of other Members have done so to the definition of relative it is her own interpretation of the term unauthorized structure
我認為這是進步，儘管進步得很少。
I think this is an improvement albeit merely a small step