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因為現時所討論的第31號至33號法律公告，是涉及到飲食業界的第599F章的。
President as Legal Notice Nos . 31 to 33 currently under discussion are related to Cap
政府經常說有事才封，無事便會放鬆限聚令，但我認為政府是"封得快，鬆得慢"。
The Government often says that social gathering restrictions are applied only when something goes awry and will be relaxed if nothing happens . But in my view it is quick in tightening and slow in easing the restrictions
這些行業有很多員工，政府在推行限聚令時，有否考慮一下這些是有經濟活動的行業，為何要犧牲他們呢？
There are many employees in these industries . When the Government introduced social gathering restrictions had it considered that these are economically active industries? . Why should they be sacrificed?
主席，我自3月起一直對政府大聲疾呼，要求它平衡經濟和防疫，因為當時政府完全沒有做好平衡。
President ever since March I have been vociferously urging the Government to strike a balance between economy and epidemic prevention as it failed to achieve that balance at the time
所以，政府應該立即檢視，放寬對相關行業的限制，因為限聚令不應該盲目適用於所有場所。
So why should banquets be banned? . Therefore the Government should immediately review and relax the restrictions on the relevant industries because social gathering restrictions should not be blindly applied to all venues
在檢視場所後，如發現有足夠 分隔，便應該彈性地放寬，容許酒樓擺酒和做生意，因為這樣不會阻礙政府防疫工作。
If inspection of the premises shows sufficient distancing flexibility should be employed to ease the restrictions allowing Chinese restaurants to hold banquets and do business because this will not hinder the Governments efforts in epidemic prevention
主席，我要重申，雖然我對於飲食業受到的限制有這麼多投訴，但我亦支持延展限聚令，因為飲食業一直跟政府共同抗疫。
President I wish to reiterate that although I have so many complaints about the restrictions on the catering industry I also support the extension of social gathering restrictions because the catering industry has all along been working hand in hand with the Government to fight the epidemic
我們知道香港的防疫工作做得相當好，早已嚴陣以待，不像某些海外國家那樣後知後覺，導致疫情一發不可收拾。
We know that Hong Kong is doing quite well in epidemic prevention . We were put on combat readiness early on unlike some overseas countries that were slow off the mark in reacting to the epidemic and as a result sent the situation out of control . However I wish to point out that the Government must strike a balance as well as attend the meetings
但是，我想指出，政府一定要取得平衡，而且政府一定要出席會議我在經常要求財政司司長列席討論有關防疫條例的panel，當政府推出防疫措施時，我們為商界發聲，而局方應該懂得平衡經濟，不要只是側重於防疫方面，而將商界利益拋諸腦後。
I often ask the Financial Secretary to attend the Panel that discusses epidemic prevention legislation . When the Government introduces epidemic prevention measures we will speak out for the business community . Meanwhile the Bureau should know how to balance the economy instead of overly focusing on epidemic prevention but dismissing the interests of the business sector
主席，我支持延展限聚令，但卻是有條件的。
President I support the extension of social gathering restrictions but with a caveat
因此基本上，他們比很多其他場所也要衞生得多，業界亦樂意配合政府防疫。
So they are basically much more hygienic than many other places and the industry is willing to cooperate with the Government in epidemic prevention
所以，政府真的不應該太離地，以致不知道業界如何運作，政府真的要了解一下，不要把他們趕盡殺絕。
Therefore to be honest the Government should not remain so detached from reality that it has no idea how the industry runs . It should really be better informed and not drive them completely out of business
其實，娛樂場所、卡拉OK房一直沒有出現感染個案，政府有否實地考察衞生環境、通風設備和分隔設施？
In fact for a long time no cases of infection have been identified in places of entertainment and karaoke rooms . Has the Government conducted on - site inspections of the hygiene conditions ventilation equipment and partitioning facilities?
當局有否了解過才決定封閉呢？
Have the authorities informed themselves before deciding to impose a closure order?
我認為政府要按場所呎數發放補貼。
In my view the Government should provide subsidies based on the floor area of the venues
主席，我只是想說，業界僱用很多夥計，甚至廚師、服務員，他們這數個月以來全部無怨無悔地佩戴着口罩、在很辛苦的情況下工作；大家均樂意執行限座4人或8人、以及每張餐桌距離1.5米的規定。
President I just want to say that the industry hires many people including even chefs and waiting attendants . Over the past few months they have been working with masks on under testing circumstances without grudge or complaint . All are willing to enforce the limit of four or eight people and the requirement for tables to be 1.5 m apart
業界支持延展之餘，也有很多成本需要負擔，希望政府在平衡開放與封閉的時間方面，多從經濟角度考慮，並作出平衡，以及盡快推出第三輪防疫抗疫基金。
While industry members support the extension they have to bear many costs . I hope that the Government strikes a balance in the timing of opening and closure adopting more economic perspectives in its consideration and launch the third round of the Anti - epidemic Fund as soon as possible
東涌居民由1990年代開始遷入作開荒牛，一直受制於唯一一條連接東涌至青衣的高速公路及東涌綫，別無他選。
Since the 1990s Tung Chung residents began to move into the area as the first occupants of this barren land . All along they have been subject to the constraint of having only one expressway that connects Tung Chung to Tsing Yi and also the Tung Chung Line without any alternatives
因此，東涌的交通費相當昂貴，在眾多新市鎮中最高。
Therefore transport expenses in Tung Chung have remained very high the highest among all new towns
第一，我們想了解政府為何要在此時藉屯門赤鱲角隧道及將軍澳藍田隧道通車的機會，才減低有關的不合理收費。
First we wish to find out why the Government agrees to reduce the unreasonable charges concerned only at this moment when the Tuen Mun - Chek Lap Kok Tunnel TM - CLKT and the Tseung Kwan O - Lam Tin Tunnel TKO - LTT are about to commence service
幸好有這兩條隧道，才能還東涌及將軍澳居民少許公道，但他們已等候多久呢？
Luckily the construction of these two tunnels can return a little bit of justice to Tung Chung and Tseung Kwan O residents . But how long have they waited?
每次的情況都一樣，都是保皇黨和建制派議員替政府保駕護航。
The situation is just the same each time in the sense that royalist and pro - establishment Members all hasten to defend the Government
我們一直要求取消收費，但為何他們不發聲呢？
All along we have requested the abolition of the relevant tolls . But why do they refuse to speak up for it?
我們現在說得唇乾舌燥了，才終於有機會藉這兩條隧道還這兩區居民少許公道。
We have spoken so much that our saliva has virtually dried up and at long last we now have a chance to return a little bit of justice to the residents of these two districts through the two tunnels
我覺得，在1,000多億元中，這筆400多億元的開支最具價值，因為可以幫助屯門、赤鱲角及東涌的市民，讓他們有多一條路徑選擇。
In my view this expenditure of some 40 billion out of the 100 billion is of the greatest worthiness because the spending of this sum can bring benefits to residents of Tuen Mun Chek Lap Kok and also Tung Chung in the sense that it can provide them with an additional route as option
政府終於睡醒了，不收費。
The Government has awoken at long last and agreed to dispense with its toll payment
大家皆看到，原來由陳恒鑌議員當主席，我對他真的沒有信心。
As Members can see Mr CHAN Han - pan is actually its Chairman . Honestly I have no confidence in him
代理主席，許智峯議員在不斷高呼"假主席"，我要求他澄清。
Deputy President Mr HUI Chi - fung keeps shouting phoney President . I demand him to clarify
我一直在思考，我們可以透過延展為屯門和東涌居民達到甚麼好處呢？同樣地，延展對於將軍澳和藍田的居民......
I have been thinking about the possible benefits of an extension to Tuen Mun and Tung Chung residents
在實際操作上，我需要透過深入而清晰的思考分析，才能得出決定。
In actual operation I need to do some in - depth clear thinking and analysis before I can form a decision
我嘗試以平和的心態，純粹客觀地作出審視。
I have tried to examine the whole thing purely from an objective angle with a calm attitude
如果支持延展，小組委員會便可以繼續工作。
If Members support an extension the Subcommittee may continue with its work
我現時身在一個十分困難的處境，立法會已非正常的立法會，也並非由正常人在此擔任主席，所以我感到很困難。
I am now caught in a very difficult position . The Legislative Council is no longer a normal legislature and its Presidency is not held by a normal person either . So I feel that things have become difficult for me
我希望大家原諒我的發言。
I hope Members can forgive me for my speech
毛孟靜議員，請稍停，有議員擬提出規程問題。
Please hold on Ms MO as some Member wishes to raise a point of order
鄭泳舜議員，你有甚麼規程問題？
Mr Vincent CHENG what is your point of order?
我很用心聆聽毛議員發言超過8分鐘，但我也同意你的裁決，便是她就這項延展期限的議案提出的論點全沒理據。
Having listened attentively to Ms Claudia MOs speech for more than eight minutes I do agree to your ruling that her arguments about the proposed resolution on extending the period for amending the relevant subsidiary legislation are absolutely groundless
政府已經說得很清楚，豁免青嶼幹線和將軍澳隧道收費後，每年因此失去的使用費/隧道費收入分別可達至6億4,000萬元和1億元1億元在香港來說已經不算甚麼了，但6億4,000萬元則是頗大的數目。
The Government has made clear that toll revenue of around 640 million and 100 million will be forgone annually arising from the toll waiver for the Lantau Link and the Tseung Kwan O Tunnel respectively―100 million is no big deal to Hong Kong but 640 million is quite a considerable sum
是否有政策歧視成分呢？
Is this a kind of policy discrimination?
而豁免收費後，政府為這兩條現有的道路/隧道所須支付的額外經常開支估計約為每年4億元。
What is more after the toll waiver the Government will incur an additional recurrent expenditure of 400 million per annum for these two existing roadstunnels
不過，事實是，雖然開設新的道路/隧道或會促使車輛的數目增加，但擠塞情況可能會減少。
Yet the truth is while the opening of new roadstunnels may lead to an increase in the number of vehicles traffic jams may reduce as a result
主席，我謹以《2018年專業會計師條例草案》委員會主席的身份，匯報法案委員會工作的重點。
President in my capacity as Chairman of the Bills Committee on Professional Accountants Amendment Bill 2018 I would like to report on the major deliberations of the Bills Committee
法案委員會舉行了4次會議，其間曾聽取團體代表的意見。
The Bills Committee has held four meetings during which views were received from deputations
法案委員會察悉，《條例草案》的立法原意與政府當局的相關政策一致；當局同意《條例草案》有助防止作出具誤導性的申述，以及協助公眾識別合資格的專業會計師，以進一步保障公眾利益。
The Bills Committee noted that the legislative intent of the Bill is consistent with the Administrations policy; the authorities agree that the Bill will help to further protect the interest of the public by preventing misleading representation and helping the public to identify qualified professional accountants
另外，有委員認為，受影響的事務所及會計相關服務提供者在決定以何稱謂為其公司命名或向客戶介紹自己時，或會被完全剝奪選擇權。
Besides a member opined that the affected firms and accounting - related service providers may be deprived of any choice of descriptions at all in naming their companies or introducing themselves to clients
《條例草案》實質上會使香港會計師公會的會員擁有擬議的額外指定禁用稱謂的專有使用權。
In essence the Bill will give members of the Hong Kong Institute of Certified Public Accountants HKICPA exclusive right to use the proposed additional specified prohibited descriptions
梁繼昌議員和公會再三向法案委員會表示，《條例草案》完全無意禁止小型事務所及其他相關從業員提供會計或簿記服務。
Mr Kenneth LEUNG and HKICPA have repeatedly advised the Bills Committee that the Bill is by all means not intended to prohibit small firms and other relevant practitioners from providing accounting or bookkeeping services
《條例草案》的立法原意是禁止事實上並非根據《條例》註冊的個別人士、事務所或公司使用具誤導性的稱謂，試圖誤導公眾相信他們是根據《條例》註冊的會計師或執業單位。
The legislative intent of the Bill is to prohibit the use of descriptions by individuals firms or companies which may mislead the public into believing that they are certified public accountants or practice units registered under the Ordinance when in fact they are not
梁繼昌議員和公會亦重申，根據《條例草案》的條文，並非根據《條例》註冊的法人團體仍然可以提供稅務或簿記服務，但前提是，這些服務須與專業審計服務無關。
Mr Kenneth LEUNG and HKICPA have also reiterated that it will still be permissible under the provisions of the Bill for a body corporate which is a non - HKICPA corporate practice to provide taxation or bookkeeping services as long as the services are not related to professional auditing service
儘管如此，法案委員會關注會計相關服務提供者會否在《條例草案》獲通過後無意中違反《條例》。
Notwithstanding so the Bills Committee is concerned whether accounting - related service providers will inadvertently contravene the Ordinance upon the passage of the Bill
應委員要求，政府當局曾提供資 料，說明甚麼會構成有意圖使人相信某法人團體或某事務所為根據《條例》註冊的執業單位，以及在斷定干犯《條例》所禁止的行為者是否有上述意圖時必須考慮的因素。
At members request the Administration has provided information to advise on what would constitute an intention of causing a person to believe that a body corporate or a firm was a practice unit registered under the Ordinance and the essential factors for determining whether a prohibited act under the Ordinance is committed with the relevant intention
涂謹申議員曾建議梁繼昌議員考慮從擬議的額外指定稱謂中刪除"professional accounting"及"專業會計"，因為涂議員認為有關的稱謂會對小型會計事務所及其他提供合法會計相關服務的從業員的生存空間造成嚴重及廣泛的影響。
Mr James TO has advised Mr Kenneth LEUNG to consider deleting professional accounting and 專業會計 from the proposed additional specified descriptions for the reason that the description concerned would cause serious and widespread repercussion on the survival of small and medium - sized accounting firms and other practitioners providing legitimate accounting - related services
然而，梁繼昌議員表示，禁用"professional accounting"及"專業會計"稱謂的建議不會對小型事務所的生存空間造成嚴重影響，因為該等事務所仍可使用很多其他稱謂提述本身的服務。
However Mr Kenneth LEUNG has advised that the proposed prohibited use of the descriptions professional accounting and 專業會計 will not cause serious repercussion on the survival of small firms providing accounting - related services as there are still many other descriptions these firms may use to refer to their services
涂謹申議員對此不表認同，並表示會考慮提出修正案。
Mr James TO does not agree with the explanation and indicates that he will consider proposing amendments
委員相信，建議的安排可協助市民大眾輕易識別哪些公司屬根據《條例》合資格提供專業審計服務的執業單位。
Members are convinced that the suggested arrangement may help the general public to easily identify certified accountants from non - certified ones and companies which are practice units qualified to provide professional auditing service under the Ordinance
公會表示，現行《條例》並沒有強制公會註冊會員或執業單位須展示其註冊編號或執業證書。
HKICPA has advised that the existing Ordinance does not mandate HKICPA - registered members or practice units to display their registration numbers or practising certificates
市民可從公會網站的會員名單及香港註冊會計師事務所名錄，確定某個別人士或公司是否公會註冊會員或執業單位。
Whether or not an individual or a company is an HKICPA - registered member or practice unit can be ascertained from the membership list and the Hong Kong CPA Practice Directory on the HKICPA website
公會又表示，其轄下的相關委員會會討論委員的建議，並適時向立法會相關事務委員會匯報討論結果。
HKICPA has further advised that its relevant committee will discuss members suggestion and revert to the relevant Panel of the Legislative Council on the outcome of the discussion in due course
法案委員會察悉，梁繼昌議員會提出修正案，以表明擬提高的罰款級別只適用於與使用具誤導性稱謂有關的罪行。
The Bills Committee noted that Mr Kenneth LEUNG will propose amendments to the effect that the proposed increase in the level of fine will be restricted to those offences which are related to the use of misleading descriptions
此外，他亦會就《條例草案》的詳題提出一項技術修正案，以及加入一項為《條例草案》訂明生效日期的修正案。
He will also propose a technical amendment to the long title and an amendment to the effect of specifying the commencement date of the Bill
法案委員會就有關修正案沒有提出意見。
The Bills Committee has no comment on the amendments
主席，以下是我對《條例草案》的意見。
President my personal views on the Bill are as follows
主席，我首先申報利益。
President first of all I would like to make a declaration of interests
我所屬的港九勞工社團聯會屬下有一個香港會計人員總會，英文名稱為Hong Kong Accounting Professional Association。
The Hong Kong Accounting Professionals Association HKAPA is an organization under the Federation of Hong Kong and Kowloon Labour Unions to which I belong
《條例草案》提出禁止非會計師的個人及團體使用"專業會計"、"註冊會計"及"認可會計"等稱謂。
The Bill proposes to prohibit a person who is not a certified public accountant and corporates from using descriptions such as professional accounting registered accounting and certified accounting
根據梁繼昌議員的說法，修訂是為了杜絕有執業單位或個人作出誤導，使公眾相信服務提供者是獲香港會計師公會註冊的會計師或執業單位。
In Mr Kenneth LEUNGs words the amendment is to eradicate practice units or individuals from misleading the public into believing that the service providers are certified public accountants or practice units registered with the Hong Kong Institute of Certified Public Accountants HKICPA
我對於梁議員提出《條例草案》背後的想法表示理解，但對於他希望透過今次修例達到上述目的的做法有所保留。
While I understand Mr LEUNGs idea in introducing the Bill I have reservations about the approach of making legislative amendments to achieve the said purpose
主席，現時《專業會計師條例》只規定審計核算工作需由會計師進行。
President at present the Professional Accountants Ordinance only requires that auditing services must be provided by certified public accountants
除了上述約4萬多名會計師，本港會計行業還有為數不少的從業員，提供編製財務報表、稅務申報等會計服務。
Apart from 40 000 - odd certified public accountants there is a large number of practitioners in the accounting profession of Hong Kong responsible for providing accounting services such as preparing financial statements tax reporting etc
有從業員憂慮，一旦《條例草案》獲得通過，將會令註冊會計師壟斷香港會計業市場，令會計服務專利化，從而影響從業員生計。
Some practitioners worry that once the Bill is passed registered accountants will monopolize the accounting services market of Hong Kong thereby making the provision of accounting services exclusive and affecting the livelihood of practitioners
即使梁議員在相關法案委員會上解釋，他無意禁止小型會計事務所提供會計或簿記服務，公會又表示，將無意誤導公眾的個案轉介給警方的可能性極低，但都無法釋除從業員的憂慮。
Even though Mr LEUNG has explained in the relevant Bills Committee that he did not intend to prohibit small firms from providing accounting or bookkeeping services and HKICPA has advised that the possibility of referring complaints against cases of unintentional misleading of the public to the Police is very low the worry of the practitioners still cannot be allayed
《條例草案》一旦獲得通過，就會變成架在從業員頭上的一把刀，更何況"專業會計"這個稱謂是否只有會計師才有資格使用，確實有斟酌餘地。
Once the Bill is passed it will become a knife hanging over the practitioners . Moreover it is indeed debatable whether only certified public accountants are qualified to use the description professional accounting
現時，香港並無規定只有會計師才能提供會計服務。
At present there is no requirement in Hong Kong that only certified public accountants can provide accounting services
按字面解釋，從業員以"專業會計"形容他以累積多年的經驗提供的會計服務，似乎亦無不當。
Also it does not seem literally inappropriate for practitioners to use professional accounting to describe his experience accumulated over the many years in the provision of accounting services
主席，我理解梁議員提出《條例草案》的背後原因，但由於《條例草案》可能對會計從業員生計帶來打擊，我無法支持。
President I understand the reasons why Mr LEUNG introduced the Bill . However since the Bill may deal a blow to the livelihood of practitioners I cannot support it
我相信很多市民都曾在電視上看過財經事務及庫務局製作的政府宣傳片，提醒市民小心不法分子冒充銀行職員、會計師和財務顧問等進行詐騙。
I believe many people have seen the Announcement of Public Interest produced by the Financial Services and the Treasury Bureau which alerts the public that criminals may falsely identify themselves as staff members of banks certified public accountants and financial consultants etc . in order to commit fraudulent acts
騙徒主要是利用市民對上述數種職業從業員的信任，但現實情況亦反映這類騙案已達到相當嚴重的程度。
The fraudsters mainly take advantage of the publics trust in the above mentioned occupations and this kind of fraud has actually become very rampant
政府有需要不斷忠告市民，以防罪案繼續惡化。
The Government must continue to warn the people to prevent the continuous growth of the crime
所以，我認同《條例草案》的原意和目的。
Thus I agree with the original intention and purpose of the Bill
在財經事務委員會和法案委員會討論《條例草案》時，我亦曾表達這個觀點。
I have made this point during discussions on the Bill at meetings of the Panel on Financial Affairs and the Bills Committee
但是，與此同時，我們絕不希望《條例草案》生效後，會出現殺錯良民的情況，例如以提供簿記及簡單帳務處理服務為主的小型公司，以及其他確實提供會計服務的相關人士，在對外宣傳時會否受到影響？
At the same time we definitely do not wish to see honest people being inadvertently caught after the commencement of the Bill . For instance will small companies which mainly provide bookkeeping and simple accounting services and other persons who really provide accounting services be affected when promoting their services to others?
有見及此，我在法案委員會上全力支持舉行公聽會，藉此直接聽取不同持份者的意見，以確保草擬的條文生效後，不會影響該等公司和人士未來的謀生空間。
Thus at the meeting of the Bills Committee I fully supported holding a public hearing to directly receive the views of various stakeholders so as to ensure that the draft provisions would not after they come into effect affect the room of survival of the companies and persons concerned
主席，在公聽會上，與會者曾熱烈討論禁止使用"專業會計"這個稱謂是否合理的問題，其後更衍生出一連串學術討論。
President during the public hearing there were heated discussions on whether it was reasonable to prohibit the use of the description professional accounting consequently leading to a series of academic discussions
涂謹申議員作為法案委員會其中一位委員，其意見具有一定代表性。
The views of Mr James TO being a member of the Bills Committee have a certain degree of representativeness
他擔心，《條例草案》變相將"專業會計"這個稱謂專利化，並認為香港會計師公會提供的個案，暫時不足以證明目前的情況已達到不可接受的程度。
He is worried that the Bill will have the effect of monopolizing the use of the description professional accounting and judging from the number of cases mentioned by the Hong Kong Institute of Certified Public Accountants HKICPA he thinks that there is not enough evidence to indicate that the current situation has reached an unacceptable level
其後，提出《條例草案》的梁繼昌議員曾向法案委員會致函，解釋不作修訂的一些理據。
Subsequently Mr Kenneth LEUNG mover of the Bill wrote to the Bills Committee to explain why he would not amend the Bill
他表示，一般公眾難以明白會計服務提供者或公司具有的專業資格和所受到的規管，尤其是剛才法案委員會主席莫乃光議員所指的外地投資者。
He said that the general public particularly overseas investors as pointed out by Mr Charles Peter MOK Chairman of the Bills Committee would find it hard to understand the qualifications of individuals or companies providing accounting services and the regulations to which they were subject
主席，就有關爭辯，我曾分別徵詢其他議員、我認識的會計界朋友和其他行業專業人士的意見，對於禁止使用"專業會計"的稱謂，支持和反對的意見都有，尤其由於很多行業均沒有同樣做法的先例。
President regarding this point of dispute I have sought the views of other Members my friends in the accounting field and other professionals . There are both supporting and opposing views regarding the prohibition of the use of the description professional accounting particularly in view of the lack of similar precedents in many other professions
支持《條例草案》的意見認為，為防不法分子魚目混珠，修訂的確有助提供更好的執法基礎。
Those supporting the Bill think that in order to prevent criminals from falsely identifying themselves amending the laws will actually help to provide a better basis for law enforcement
儘管提供簿記或會計服務的公司或個人，將來在採用"專業會計"的稱謂上或會受若干限制，但仍可使用其他達到相同目標的稱謂描述其工作及所提供服務的專業性，例如"資深會計"、"會計專家"和"專業簿記"等。
Although companies or individuals providing bookkeeping and accounting services will be subject to certain restrictions in using the description professional accounting in the future they can still use other descriptions such as seasoned accounting accounting expert and professional bookkeeping etc . which will achieve the same purpose in describing the expertise of their work and the services they provide
市民如對個別人士的身份有任何疑問，可以向公會查詢。
If the public have doubts about the identity of an individual enquiries can be made with HKICPA
其實，莫乃光議員剛才也提及，公眾人士可以上公會網站查核，但我認為，應為市民提供更簡單快捷的方法。
In fact Mr Charles Peter MOK mentioned earlier that the public could make enquiries through the website of HKICPA . However I think simpler and quicker ways of identification should be provided to the public
如能快速解決冒充的問題，便無須處理多項修例衍生的問題。
If the problem of false identification can be expeditiously resolved it would not be necessary to solve the many problems arising from the legislative amendments
雖然上述建議當時並無引起甚麼爭議，但公會其後表示需進行詳細研究。
Although the above mentioned proposal was uncontentious HKICPA subsequently said that it had to conduct detailed study
無論今天《條例草案》的表決結果為何，公會亦應提供多一個核實專業會計師身份的途徑，以協助市民確認會計師的身份。
Regardless of the voting results on the Bill today HKICPA should provide another way of assisting the public to ascertain the identities of its members
主席，在審議《條例草案》的過程中，我曾要求公會明確表明，不會隨意使用《條例草案》賦予的權力，向警方舉報並無誤導意圖而使用了不當稱謂的會計同業，這項建議獲得公會的正面確認。
President during the deliberation of the Bill we asked HKICPA to affirm that it would not arbitrarily use the power conferred by the Bill to report to the Police against accounting practitioners who used improper descriptions without any intention to mislead others . This suggestion has been endorsed by HKICPA
關於《條例草案》的具體用詞，我當時曾促請提出《條例草案》的梁繼昌議員，考慮和檢視現行《條例草案》的字眼，釐清只有在具誤導意圖使用不當稱謂的情況下才會構成罪行。
Regarding the specific wordings of the Bill I urged the mover of the Bill Mr Kenneth LEUNG to consider and review the existing Bill and clarified that the use of an improper description would only constitute a crime if there was an intention to mislead others
現時《條例草案》採用了正面邏輯描述，我建議改用反向邏輯描述，一方面可令公眾釋疑，另一方面亦可令其他地區註冊的會計師免受影響，此舉亦符合會計界人士真正的立法目的。
The existing Bill has adopted descriptions of positive logic while I have proposed to use descriptions of negative logic so as to remove doubts of the public and avoid affecting certified public accountants with overseas registration . This approach will be consistent with the original intention of the Bill for the accounting sector
經檢視後，梁繼昌議員認為《條例草案》的字眼已夠清晰。
Upon review Mr Kenneth LEUNG considers that the wording of the Bill is clear enough
主席，我個人最擔心會出現的一個情況，就是即使《條例草案》獲得通過，亦未必能杜絕"掛羊頭賣狗肉"的情況。
President personally I am most worried that even after the passage of the Bill instances of crying up wine but selling vinegar may not be eradicated