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主席，關於擁有權模式的改動，其實每個項目均有其特殊情況，包括走線、技術、地質等方面，而財務亦是非常重要的角度。
President regarding changes in the ownership approach in fact each project has its own special circumstances including alignment technology geology and so on and financing is also a very important perspective
由鐵路發展以至採用"鐵路加物業"的模式，不論是涉及擁有權或服務經營權模式，在談判過程中均會觸及不同情景。
From railway development to the adoption of the RP approach and regardless of whether the ownership or concession approach is adopted different scenarios will be touched on in the negotiation process
我希望大家可以放心，無論在任何情景下，最重要的目的是，第一，確保公眾利益得到保護；第二，確保公共資源用得其所。
I hope that Members can rest assured that in any event the most important objectives are to ensure that firstly public interest is protected and secondly public resources are properly used
主席，局長的回應中有一個關鍵詞，就是"資金差額"。香港要發展鐵路無可避免會面對"資金差額"，不論是採用擁有權及"鐵路加物業發展"模式或服務經營權。
President there is a key term in the Secretarys reply and that is funding gap which means that railway development in Hong Kong will inevitably face funding gap regardless of whether the ownership and RP or concession approach is adopted
局長是否願意考慮引入其他鐵路公司以作競爭？
Is the Secretary willing to consider inviting competition from other railway corporations?
主席，多謝陸議員的意見。
President I thank Mr LUK for his views
事實上，我們在不同場合也提過，如果日後有些鐵路項目能夠完全獨立於現有的鐵路網絡，我們樂意考慮引入競爭，我相信大家都是理解的。
As a matter of fact we have mentioned on various occasions that in case there is any railway project that is completely independent of the existing railway network in the future we would be happy to consider introducing competition which I believe is understandable
主席，我也想跟進葉劉淑儀議員的質詢。
President I would also like to follow up the question raised by Mrs Regina IP
如果資金短缺，可以利用現金或土地解決，但葉劉淑儀議員提出了十分重要的一點，就是在容許合理利潤之餘，當超出合理利潤時該如何處理。
If there is a shortage of capital it can be made up by using cash or land . However Mrs Regina IP has highlighted a very important point that is while allowing reasonable profits what should be done when profits exceeded the reasonable level
現在的情 況是港鐵公司賺錢，小股東分享，而沒有買港鐵公司股票的人則連自己擁有的部分土地也奉上。
The present situation is that when MTRCL makes profits the minority shareholders would have a share but those who have not bought shares of MTRCL would have to surrender even the part of land they possess
我很同意葉劉淑儀議員的意見，政府應該認真考慮。
I very much agree with Mrs Regina IPs view to which the Government should give serious consideration
我認為不應該讓港鐵公司賺取超額利潤，希望局長可以認真考慮這個問題。
I opined that MTRCL should not be allowed to make excessive profits and I hope that the Secretary will seriously consider this point
代理主席，多謝劉國勳議員的質詢。
Deputy President I thank Mr LAU Kwok - fan for his question
香港的廣播業雖然面對不少競爭，但亦發展蓬勃。
Hong Kong has a vibrant broadcasting sector despite keen competition
現時，除了12條免費電視頻道外，亦有超過800條衞星及收費電視頻道供市民收看不同節目。
Members of the public have access to 12 free television TV channels and over 800 satellite and pay TV channels for watching various TV programmes
市民亦可透過不同平台包括互聯網收看世界各地的電視節目。
They may also watch TV programmes from around the world through different platforms including the Internet
香港的廣播政策是促進競爭，鼓勵業界增加節目的選擇和種類，另一方面亦協助業界引進創新的廣播服務，鼓勵投資基建及豐富節目內容。
Hong Kongs broadcasting policy objectives are to promote competition encourage the broadcasting sector to widen programme choice and diversity facilitate the sector to introduce innovative broadcasting services and encourage investment in infrastructure and enrichments in content
代理主席，就劉議員質詢的各個部分，我現答覆如下： 一 現時，香港市民可透過多種渠道收看中國中央電視台和其他內地電視頻道及節目。
Deputy President my reply to the various parts of the question raised by Mr LAU is as follows 1 At present Hong Kong viewers can watch various TV channels and programmes of China Central Television CCTV and other Mainland TV stations through different means
在免費電視服務方面，香港電台透過電視33台24小時轉播中國中央電視台提供給香港的綜合頻道；3家商業營運的本地免費電視台，包括奇妙電視、香港電視娛樂及無綫電視，一直按市場需要，在每周不同時段播放內地製作的電視節目。
On free TV services Radio Television Hong Kong RTHK provides 24 - hour relay of China Central Television Channel 1 CCTV - 1 to Hong Kong through RTHK TV 33 . Three commercial domestic free TV broadcasters namely Fantastic Television Limited HK Television Entertainment Company Limited and Television Broadcasts Limited have been providing Mainland - produced TV programmes in different time slots every week according to market needs
此外，兩家本地收費電視台，即有線電視和電盈媒體，亦轉播15條中央電視台和其他內地電視頻道。
In addition two domestic pay TV broadcasters namely Hong Kong Cable Television Limited and PCCW Media Limited also relay 15 channels from CCTV and other Mainland TV channels
除上述之外，市民可透過衞星電視系統免費接收逾80條內地電視頻道，以及透過其他網絡電視或互聯網平台收看內地電視頻道和節目，舉例說，中央電視台官方網站亦有提供多條頻道作實時直播和節目重溫。
In addition to those mentioned above the public may receive over 80 Mainland TV channels free of charge through satellite TV systems and watch Mainland TV channels and programmes through other over - the - top TV or Internet platforms . For example the official website of CCTV also provides real - time live streaming and programme re - runs of multiple channels
頻譜方面，香港採用本地數碼電視廣播服務為500兆赫頻段，按照現行規劃，有足夠的頻譜支援本地的數碼電視服務和發展需要。
As regards spectrum the 500 MHz band is used for the provision of local digital TV broadcasting services in Hong Kong . The existing plan provides sufficient spectrum to support local digital TV services and development needs
二 港台於2017年5月開始透過港台電視33數碼頻道24小時轉播中國中央電視台綜合頻道，這條轉播頻道的內容與內地版本有所不同，主要由於中央電視台是因應本港對電視節目的規管而安排適合在香港的版本播放，例如移除了商業廣告和商業贊助的內容。
2 Since May 2017 RTHK has relayed CCTV - 1 on the digital channel RTHK TV 33 on a 24 - hour basis . The contents relayed on this channel are different from the Mainland version as CCTV has arranged for a version suitable for broadcast in Hong Kong having regard to local regulation of TV programmes such as removing commercial advertisements and contents involving commercial sponsorships
三 政府一直有為廣播業界爭取在內地，尤其廣東省開拓市場。
3 The Government has been striving to develop the Mainland market particularly that of the Guangdong Province for the broadcasting sector
在《內地與香港關於建立更緊密經貿關係的安排》《服務貿易協議》下，有多項便利本地電視業進入內地市場的開放措施，例如，自2020年6月起，內地已進一步放寬對香港與內地合作拍劇的限制，推動兩地文化產業的交流與發展。
Under the Agreement on Trade in Services of the Mainland and Hong Kong Closer Economic Partnership Arrangement CEPA various liberalization measures are available to facilitate the Hong Kong broadcasting sector in gaining access to the Mainland market . For example the Mainland has since June 2020 further relaxed the restrictions on TV programmes jointly produced by Hong Kong and the Mainland with a view to promoting the exchanges and development in cultural industries of both places
特區政府會繼續透過CEPA，爭取讓香港的電視業能以更有利的條件進入內地市場。
The HKSAR Government will continue its efforts to enable the Hong Kong broadcasting sector to gain access to the Mainland market under more favourable conditions through CEPA
代理主席，我不知道局長現時有否收看內地製作的電視節目。
Deputy President I do not know whether the Secretary watches Mainland - produced TV programmes now
我想問政府會否協助，特別是居於公共租住房屋的市民，安裝衞星電視系統，讓公屋住戶可隨時在家開啟電視便能收看內地電視節目。
I would like to ask whether the Government will provide assistance especially for those residing in public rental housing PRH units in installing satellite TV systems so that PRH tenants can switch on their TVs to watch Mainland TV programmes at home anytime
代理主席，我明白劉國勳議員提出補充質詢的意向，是希望香港市民可以有更多選擇，包括收看內地電視台的節目。
Deputy President I understand Mr LAU Kwok - fans intention of raising the supplementary question and that is hoping Hong Kong citizens will have more choices including watching programmes of Mainland TV stations
正如我剛所說，目前最能讓香港市民有更多選擇的方法，是透過免費電視台轉播，即市民不需要付費或透過其他方式收看。
As I have just said currently the best way to give Hong Kong citizens more choices is the broadcasting of relay programmes by free TV broadcasters which means people can watch these programmes without the need to pay or resort to other means
此外，我們亦透過發牌方式令本地電視節目能夠迎合本地口味。
Moreover through the licensing regime we are able to ensure that the local TV programmes produced suit the taste of local TV viewers
但是，葉劉淑儀議員亦說得對，香港的電視節目、電影或創意產業很多時候着眼於內地的龐大市場。
However Mrs Regina IP is also right to say that Hong Kongs TV and film sectors or creative sectors often have their eye on the huge Mainland market
就這方面，除了我剛才所說，政府與政府之間透過如CEPA《服務貿易協議》開拓機會外，我們在推廣及支援方面也下了不少工夫，包括為創意產業在內地開拓市場。
In this regard apart from exploring opportunities through collaboration with other governments eg . the CEPA Agreement on Trade in Services which I have just mentioned we have also made considerable promotional and support efforts which include helping the creative sectors to explore the Mainland market
基本上在"一國兩制"下，香港的廣播業實施自己的規管，內地亦然，因此，在節目方面，我們未必能夠接收到所有內地電視台的節目，倒過來說亦一樣。
Basically under one country two systems the broadcasting sectors in Hong Kong and the Mainland are subject to regulation by their respective regulators . As a result not all programmes of Mainland TV stations are available for reception in Hong Kong and vice versa
因此，我亦提到香港電視台的落地權，是基於兩地的不同情況，當中亦有商業元素，例如內地電視節目本身有廣告，而當中央電視台向港台電視33台提供節目時，也要將頻道內的節目作出一些調整。
Therefore I have also mentioned the landing right of Hong Kong TV broadcasters which arises from the different situations of the two places . Commercial elements must also be taken into consideration . For example when a Mainland TV programme contains commercial advertisements and CCTV provides the programme to RTHK TV 33 some adjustments will have to be made before the programme can be broadcast on the channel
關於劉議員的補充質詢，就香港而言，除了港台外，其他收費電視台或免費電視台也有按照其選擇轉播一些內地電視節目。
Regarding Mr LAUs supplementary question in Hong Kong apart from RTHK other pay TV broadcasters or free TV broadcasters also broadcast some Mainland TV programmes according to their preferences
主席，我們今天要以事論事，究竟這項由律政司刑事檢控科於11月24日提出的申請，要求立法會給予特別許可提供12項指明文件的本質為何呢？
President today we have to confine our discussion to the matter itself . What actually is the nature of this application made by the Prosecutions Division of the Department of Justice DoJ on 24 November requesting special leave of the Legislative Council to provide 12 specified documents?
簡單而言，就是梁國雄議員被指涉嫌在較早前收受黎智英26萬元。
To put it simply it was alleged that Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung accepted 260,000 from Jimmy LAI earlier
實際上應該由控方自行決定。
Practically it should be determined by the prosecution
既然律政司提出了這項要求，作為立法會議員，我們應考慮的是如何維護法治精神，而不會作出任何偏袒或包庇。
As DoJ has made such a request then we being Members of the Legislative Council should consider how to uphold the rule of law without being partial to or harbouring anyone
再者，我亦想在此重申，香港是一個講求法治精神的地方，梁國雄議員雖然被控涉嫌收受款項，但一日未經定罪，仍假定他是無罪的。
Furthermore I would also like to reiterate here that Hong Kong is a place that attaches importance to the rule of law . Though Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung is being prosecuted for the alleged acceptance of payment he is still presumed innocent until convicted
我們應該從維護法治精神和履行公民責任的角度提供協助，亦希望依法處理香港的事務。
While we should render help from the perspectives of upholding the spirit of rule of law and fulfilling civic responsibility we also hope that the affairs of Hong Kong will be handled in accordance with the law
當得悉有罪案或有調查機構需要幫助時，便應該給予援手。
When we learn that assistance is needed by an investigative body in handling a criminal case we should offer help
因此，大家無須上綱上線，亦無須說甚麼"如果今天不堅守這位置，明天就會輪到你"，彷彿是在說"今夕吾軀歸故土，他朝君體也相同"。
Therefore there is no need to make a mountain out of a molehill saying something to the effect that If we do not hold fast to this position today it will be your turn to suffer tomorrow . It is just like saying As my body turns to dust today so will yours in the future
主席，我的發言一直貼題，我希望謝偉俊議員細心聽我表述，他無須那麼憂慮，法庭自然會以同一個標準判斷這事，主席，我不同意他所謂......
I hope that Mr Paul TSE will listen to my remarks carefully . He needs not worry so much as the Court will judge the case by the same criteria . President I disagree to what he said about the so - called
所以，我覺得這個許可是應該給予的。
Hence I think we should grant leave to DoJ
根據《立法會條例》第7條及《議事規則》第90條向立法會請求給予特別許可，以就立法會會議程序提供證據。有關請求的內容，已印載於會議議程內。
Request made under section 7 of the Legislative Council Ordinance and Rule 90 of the Rules of Procedure for special leave of the Council to give evidence of Council proceedings as printed on the Agenda
根據《議事規則》第902條，這項請求經列入會議議程，除非藉任何議員在今次會議動議無經預告的議案，決定拒絕給予許可，否則本會須當作已命令給予許可。
In accordance with Rule 902 of the Rules of Procedure RoP upon the placing of the request on the Agenda the Council shall be deemed to have ordered that the leave be granted unless on a motion moved without notice at this meeting by any Member the Council determines that such leave shall be refused
主席，我發言支持姚松炎議員提出的議案。
President I rise to speak in support of the motion proposed by Dr YIU Chung - yim
這次的議案，以及姚松炎議員提出的反對議案都是關乎行政當局引發的一種白色恐怖，是蠶食議會內的言論自由和自主的政治行為。
The motion in question and the counter - motion proposed by Dr YIU Chung - yim both concern the white terror inflicted by the executive as a political attempt to erode the legislatures freedom of speech and autonomy
開會前，主席有時會提醒大家有非立法會議員的與會者將不受此這條例的保障。
Non - Member participants are sometimes reminded during meetings that they are not protected by the Ordinance
其實，當時我並沒有想過有甚麼事會令我負上法律責任，我"行得正，企得正"，說出口的話，有甚麼好怕？
In fact at those occasions I could not think of anything that would render me liable legally . As I am law - abiding and upright what kind of problems my words will bring me?
但是，這4年來，香港實在變了太多，梁振英一步一步收窄香港的言論空間，就連立法會也不放過。
However much in Hong Kong has changed over these four years as LEUNG Chun - ying has shrunk the room for speech in Hong Kong step by step . Even the Legislative Council is not spared
也許他更能達到中央經常提到的目標，便是三權合作、三權配合，而非三權分立。
He may even be able to achieve the target frequently mentioned by the Central Authorities that is the cooperation and coordination among the three powers as an alternative to the separation of powers
這些年來，我們看見的宣誓風波，上屆的宣誓過程與今屆相比，立法會與政府的處理手法的確明顯收緊了。
If we look at the oath - taking incident throughout the years we can easily notice that the Legislative Council and the Government have now adopted a much more stringent standard in dealing with the controversy as compared with the standard applied to the Fifth Legislative Council
其實，整件事的過程、發展，明顯是行政當局要收緊立法會，以至整個香港社會的言論空間非常重要的一步。
In fact the entire development is obviously a major step of the executive to constrain the room for speech in the Legislative Council and even the city entirely
檢控要求證明梁國雄議員有開會，其實，最初我非常疑惑，問了很多，現在仍不能完全明白。
The prosecution demands a prove that Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung did attend the meetings . At first I was highly puzzled by such a demand . Even after asking many questions in this regard I still cannot completely understand the reason behind this
我相信市民也很難明白，市民每天都能從電視上看見我們開會，我們的行為舉止正在網上直播，每天都能看見"長毛"，每個會 也有出席當然，他只出席他有參與的會議。
I believe the public do not have a clue about this too . The people can watch us on television holding meetings every day and our actions are broadcasted live on the Internet . In fact Long Hair can be seen on television each day and he attends every meeting―of course I mean he attends all meetings he participates in
控方並非試圖懷疑或質疑相關的會議過程紀錄或報告所記錄被告人發出的任何言論的真實性或適當性。
The prosecution is not seeking to question or challenge the veracity or propriety of anything said by the Defendant as recorded in the relevant records of proceedings or reports
這一段也許是大派定心丸，不過問題仍然解決不了。
This paragraph may serve to relieve our concerns yet the problem still remains
控方只尋求援引這些文件作為證據，以證明相關陳述是由被告人作出。
The prosecution merely seeks to quote these documents to prove that the Defendant made such statements
律政司進一步指被告人的言論並非控方的訴訟因由，亦非構成刑事責任的依據，而被告人也不會就其在立法會會議程序中的言論承擔任何刑事責任。
DoJ further points out that the words said by the Defendant are not the cause of prosecution action or the foundation of criminality liability and the Defendant is not exposed to any criminal liability in respect of what he said in Legislative Council proceedings
其實，這一段與前文所述頻有矛盾。
In fact this paragraph contradicts the texts above
即使無法取得文件證明，是否真的與能夠成功控告"長毛"議員有關係？
Even if the documents are not produced in evidence will this affect the chance for them to successfully sue Long Hair?
小動作帶來大影響，一不小心政府便會得寸進尺，收緊再收緊，溫水煮蛙便是如此，我們早已習慣，他們要甚麼，我們便提供甚麼。
These little tricks bring about big effects however . If we do not stay alert the Government will go even further to contract our room as in the case of the anecdote about the boiling frog . Regrettably we all get used to this giving away whatever they want
主席，今天很多議員一直提到，也一直討論的《立法會條例》，不知情者聽起來還以為議員擁有很多特權，以為議員擁有行政長官所擁有的那些特權。
President regarding the Ordinance repeatedly mentioned and discussed by numerous Members today people not knowing the details will probably misunderstand that Members have many privileges like all those privileges enjoyed by the Chief Executive
事實上，我發現現在及過去我在立法會的4年間，事實並非如此，這項條例很大程度上都很廢。
Actually based on the circumstances today and during the last four years when I have been a Member of the Council I realize that this is not true . The Ordinance has been largely ineffective
當我們想引用這條例質問政府，並要求調查政府時，一定會有保皇黨議員阻擋，令我們無計可施。
Whenever we wish to invoke the Ordinance to question and investigate the Government we are always blocked by the royalists rendering it impossible for us to proceed our plan
剛才也有議員說，你們不要以為這樣沒有所謂，下次便輪到你們。
That said a Member has just reminded them not to be so assured that this is alright as they may become the subject next time
不過，我相信議員無需用這些論點來勸諭他們，因為我相信大家的原則不同，我們民主派議員的原則是要看到公義，反對強權。
However in my opinion Members do not need to persuade them with these arguments as different parties have different principles . For we the democrats we stick with the cause of justice against the power
事實上，我相信能進入議會的議員也不懼怕被強權迫害。
As a matter of fact I believe Members qualified for joining the Council are all not afraid of oppression
然而，依附強權的人就不認為這些事情會影響到自己，當然，可能到了某一天，他被人用完即棄時，才會後悔，但這已不要緊了，因為他覺得能享有一時的榮華富貴已足夠。
However for those relying on the power they do not think that these issues will affect them . Of course they may regret one day when it is their turn to be abandoned after they are no longer useful but this is not important though as they are happy enough to enjoy some temporary splendour and glory
建制派可能或一定會說因為他們今天發言的人仍少，但稍後有可能忍不住而有人發言我們這樣做是包庇"長毛"，但我心想，"長毛"根本都未怕過。
Today not many pro - establishment Members have spoken but when they cannot bear this any longer and opt to speak later on they will likely claim that we are harbouring Long Hair . Indeed I just think that Long Hair is not worried at all
這完全違反了香港的法治精神和一貫做法，因為法治是要規範當權者。
This completely violates the rule of law and the established practice in Hong Kong
然而，現在卻倒轉過來，由一些掌管法律的人包括由律政司作出檢控用法律來達致其政治目的，這顯然是rule by law，而不是法治rule of law。
The spirit of rule of law aims at containing the ones in power but it is now exploited as a tool for those in control of the law to fulfil their political intent including using the law to institute prosecutions by DoJ an obviously example of rule by law instead of rule of law
這亦是我們希望能透過今天的辯論，讓市民有多些機會看到和聽到的，因為最終建制派可能認為一定會有足夠票數通過議案，但為何我們仍要說這麼多？
After all this is the message we wish to convey to the public through todays debate . The pro - establishment camp may consider that they will certainly secure enough votes to pass the motion in the end . So what is the point for us to give all these speeches then?
諷刺的是，今次是由立法會自己提出議案，自行要求"根據《立法會條例》第7條及《議事規則》第90條請求立法會"即立法會全體議員"給予特別許可"。
Ironically the motion is proposed by the Legislative Council itself for a Request made under section 7 of the Legislative Council Ordinance Cap . 382 and Rule 90 of the Rules of Procedure for special leave of the Council . By the Council it means all Members of the Legislative Council
大家看到對面並無官員在席，因為這是立法會的"家事"。
There is no public officer on the other side of the Chamber as this is an family matter of the legislature
當然，提出這項議案的始作俑者是律政司，但在建制派控制下，本會根本已完全配合了政府的政治目的。
True DoJ is the culprit behind this motion but the Council is actually working with the Government under the control of the pro - establishment camp to achieve its political intent
不過，正如梁耀忠議員剛才提到，其實今次我們在了解和討論本課題的時間很少，而且不知為何要盡快進行，究竟盡快的目的是為了甚麼？
However as Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung has pointed out just now we do not have much time to understand and discuss the subject . Moreover we are not advised as to why this must be done so rush . After all why do we have to rush this?
是否又想藉此製造一些政治事件？
Do they want to create another political incident?
因為大家也知道，未來又要選舉選委，接着是選特首，"跑馬仔"，是否要配合甚麼目的？
As we all know that the Election Committee Subsector Elections are approaching followed by the Chief Executive election and the competitions among possible candidates
正如梁耀忠議員剛才所說，主席作出的很多裁決，包括今天也有些裁決也不作解釋，就是要快。
Is there any hidden agendas behind? . As mentioned just now by Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung many rulings of the President are made without explanation including some rulings today . He cares only about the speed
所以，這是一個很壞、很壞、很壞的先例。
Therefore this is really a very bad precedent
今天我們將會看到的，恐怕是建制派議員完全配合政府的做法，把立法會享有的少許監察政府的權力及發言自由收緊，然後便進一步達致我們經常聽到中央所說的"行政配合"，最好連司法也配合，達致政府的行政、立法及司法3權互相配合。
I am afraid we will have no choice today apart from witnessing the pro - establishment camps complete cooperation with the Government to constrain the Legislative Council by way of restraining the power still remained in it to monitor the Government as well as its freedom of speech . In effect this will further lead to a situation frequently referred to by the Central Authorities in which the Council works with the executive to carry out its agendas . It is even better if the judiciary also works in harmony to achieve cooperation among the three branches of government namely the executive legislature and judiciary
所以，今天如果我們通過這項特別處理的議案，把立法會言論受保障的權利進一步削弱的話，其實會令香港繼續逐步走至不能回頭的深淵。
So if we pass this motion to execute this special arrangement and further jeopardize the protection of speeches in the Council we are gradually sinking Hong Kong into an abyss of no return
所以，我懇請議員如果尚有獨立思考的話希望你們也支持我們姚松炎議員提出反對這項議案的處理。
Therefore I earnestly urge fellow Members those who can still think independently to support the counter - motion proposed by Dr YIU Chung - yim
梁美芬議員，由於何啟明議員的修正案獲得通過，我已批准你修改你的修正案措辭，內容已發送各位議員。
When moving your revised amendment you may speak for up to three minutes to explain the revised terms in your amendment but you may not express further views on the motion and the amendments nor may you repeat what you have already covered in your earlier speech
主席，我動議按照我經修改的修正案，進一步修正經何啟明議員修正的周浩鼎議員議案。
President I move that Mr Holden CHOWs motion as amended by Mr HO Kai - ming be further amended by my revised amendment
主席，真難民無論是否可以獲發"行街紙"，也會來香港；"假難民"若不獲發"行街紙"，便不會來港，混入社區當"黑工"。
President regardless of whether genuine refugees will be issued with going - out passes they will come to Hong Kong . If bogus refugees are not issued with going - out passes they will not come and get into the community to work as illegal workers
我希望，我動議，各黨派共同支持我提出的修正案，減少"假難民"來港誘因，支持取消"行街紙"的政策。
I wish I move that the various parties support my amendment to reduce the incentive for bogus refugees to come to Hong Kong to support the scrapping of the going - out passes policy
政府剛才沒有回答我這個問題。
The Government has not responded to this question earlier
我希望議員一起支持我，多謝。
I wish all fellow Members will support me
我們應該正視今天這項議題，因為有同事提出不希望立法會向律政司提供一系列文件。
We should look at the subject in question squarely because some colleague declared that the Legislative Council should not submit a series of papers to the Department of Justice DoJ
作為立法會議員，我們一定支持議事堂上的言論和辯論自由，《條例》第3條及第4條也強調我們發表的任何言論，即使批評過火，即使要斥責政府或任何人，我們也不會有壓力，因為我們不會被控告誹謗或追究其他法律責任。
As Members of this Council we certainly support our freedom of speech and debate in this Chamber . Sections 3 and 4 of the Ordinance also stress that no matter what comments we make even if our criticisms against the Government or anyone are over the top we will not come under any pressure because no proceedings for libel or any other legal responsibility shall be instituted against us
可是，在議事堂外，立法會議員的言論便不會受到同樣保障。
However Members will not have the same kind of protection outside this Chamber
我們作為立法會議員，確實要警醒，為何市民會認為我們享有的特權，令他們感到不能接受，因而用批判角度看這些特權？
We as Members must always be aware why the public consider the privileges we enjoy unacceptable and hence adopt a critical view on such privileges
今天便是一個活生生的例子。
The matter in question today is an actual example
這是在程序上、制度上保護市民知情權的措施。
This is as far as the procedure or system is concerned a measure to protect the publics right to know
根據同一標準，他們是否也可以這樣對待與他們政見不同的議員？
By the same token can they treat Members holding different political views in the same way?