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撇除憲政的討論因為這一點較為複雜在個別條文上，我認為我們的討論重點，並非如何平衡各黨派在議會內的權力，又或是如何使會議常規有利於少數派或弱勢一方作出辯論或執行立法會議員的職能。
The discussion about constitutionality aside―because this point is more complicated―the focus of our discussion on individual provisions in my view is not how to strike a balance of power among various political parties and groupings in the Council or how to make the standing orders favourable for the minority or the weaker side to debate or perform their functions as Members
個別條文其實涉及擴大現時主席閣下不受制約、監察或限制的權力。
In fact the individual provisions involve expansion of the existing powers of the President which are not subject to any control monitoring or restriction
當然，主席會說自己受香港市民的監察，但他是沒有成本的，沒有成本的意思是，即使他可能涉及背景的問題、國籍的問題，又或是他作為功能界別議員卻可坐上主席之位的問題，香港市民也無法對他作出任何批判或切實的監察。
Certainly the President will say that he is monitored by the people of Hong Kong but he does not bear any cost . Not bearing any cost means that even though there may be queries about his background his nationality or his assumption of the Presidents seat despite being a Member returned by a functional constituency the people of Hong Kong are unable to censure him or practically monitor him in any way
不過，這一點我暫且撇開不談，我只是討論制度本身的問題，就是這49項修訂將進一步擴大主席的職權。
Nevertheless I will leave this point aside for the moment and focus the discussion on the problem of the system itself . That is these 49 amendments will further expand the Presidents functions and powers
就主席的位置而言，我不認為泛民議員剛才所說的利益衝突是一種合理的說法，但既然條文本身跟擴大主席的權力有關，主席便應該更小心考量議程的安排，不能把全部修訂一籃子放在一起，讓大家每人發言15分鐘便作罷。
Insofar as the Presidents position is concerned I do not think the conflict of roles mentioned by the pan - democratic Members just now is a reasonable proposition . However since the provisions are related to the expansion of the Presidents powers the President should consider arranging the Agenda more carefully . He cannot put all the amendments together in a single basket let each Member speak for 15 minutes and consider it done
即使你的權力尚未擴大，但今天我的切身經驗是，我連呼吸也被你指為離題，這種感覺是不能磨滅的，這件事我會說足4年。
Your powers have not yet been expanded but today I have personally experienced being accused by you of straying from the question when all I did was breathing . Such a feeling can never be banished . I will talk about this for four whole years
來到最關鍵的部分，這49項修訂涉及我們整套會議常規，亦即我們議會的行事規則中一個很重要的元素，就是我們的《議事規則》是否有關聯或一致的問題。
Now coming to the most crucial part these 49 amendments involve a very important element in our whole set of standing orders that means our code of practice in the Council . It is the matter of coherence or consistency of our RoP
因為大會主席與委員會主席的職能有不同等級的差別，即權力是有大小之分的。
Because the Presidents functions are at a different level from those of the Chairmen of committees . That means powers vary in degree
但是，我們過去並無重視這一點，於是不明不白地通過了規則，賦予委員會主席趕走議員的權力。
However in the past we did not pay close attention to this point so a rule was passed with ignorance vesting the Chairmen of committees with the power to order the withdrawal of Members
為何大家屬於同一個Council，但因為制度上的優勢，獲選為個別委員會主席便可以趕我走呢？
We belong to the same Council but why can those elected as Chairmen of individual committees order my withdrawal with their advantageous position under the system?
就這一點而言，我們稍後要討論的49項修訂，不應簡單地切割為這些涉及主席的職能，這些會削減大家提出中止待續議案的權力，這些是關於流會也可以無限復會，諸如此類。
Regarding this point the 49 amendments which we are going to discuss in a while should not be simply divided into such groups as one involving the Presidents powers one reducing Members power of proposing adjournment motions one enabling a meeting to be resumed indefinitely after abortion so on and so forth
我們大可以這樣粗淺地理解和討論，但這並非我們要認真審視這49項修訂的根本原因。
We may interpret and discuss them in such a rough manner but this is not the fundamental reason why we should seriously examine these 49 amendments
如果我們真的透過這15分鐘作出討論，每人說完後便通過修訂，嚴格來說，從我或我的支持者的角度來看，是沒有分別的，因為我們去年提出"全民制憲永續《基本法》"運動時，已有一個前設，就是議會已經失效，因此才需要作出制度的改革。
If we really conduct our discussion through this 15 - minute speaking time and pass the amendments after everyone has finished his speech strictly speaking it makes no difference from my angle or that of my supporters because when we proposed the movement of devising the constitution by all people and sustaining the Basic Law forever last year we already held the premise that the Council has failed . That is why we need to reform the system
因為如果這49項修訂獲得通過其實我也覺得修訂會順利通過它所破壞的不是我們的議會，亦不是如大家簡單地理解般，會破壞"一國兩制"，其實它所破壞的，是香港人信賴的代議政制。
Because if these 49 amendments are passed―I actually believe the amendments will be passed smoothly―it is not our Council that they will destroy . It is also not as simple as what Members interpret that they will destroy one country two systems . What they will actually destroy is the system of representative government trusted by the people of Hong Kong
其實過去我們沒有民主、沒有真正的選舉，但是，香港人仍然相信，我作為議員，會擔當他們的代表，為他們發聲。
As a matter of fact in the past we had neither democracy nor genuine elections but the people of Hong Kong still believed that being a Member I would serve as their representative and speak for them
如果稍後真的這樣收窄《議事規則》，剝奪議會僅餘的監察權力，主席閣下，真的不好意思，我得罪也要說一句，大家要花多些時間做運動。
If RoP is indeed tightened in such a way later stripping the Council of its only remaining power of monitoring President really sorry even if it may offend you I must say that we have got to spend more time doing exercise
因為要跑得快一點。
Because we need to run faster
我只是舉例來形容這種情況。
I am just making an analogy to describe such a situation
所以，主席閣下及各位議員，希望大家理解，這並非輕鬆的事情，結果將會由大家承受。
Hence President and Honourable Members I hope you will understand that this is not an easy question . The consequences will be borne by us
所以......希望大家認真審視，謹此陳辭。
Hence I hope Members will look into the matter seriously . I so submit
我就楊岳橋議員根據《議事規則》第401條，就根據《基本法》第七十五條動議的擬議決議案的辯論提出的中止待續議案發言。
I speak on the adjournment motion proposed by Mr Alvin YEUNG under RoP 401 on the debate on the proposed resolutions under Article 75 of the Basic Law
我現在不會就修訂《議事規則》的擬議決議案內容發表任何詳細的意見，留待一息間再提出。
I will not present detailed views on the proposed resolutions to amend RoP for I will do so later on
為支持此項中止待續議案，我提出兩個大原則的問題如下：第一個大原則的問題是，廖長江議員在擬議決議案動議26項不同的修訂建議，其中多項損害整體議會的利益，亦顛覆議會的倫理。
In support of the adjournment motion I put forth the following two matters of principle the first one is that among the 26 different proposed amendments moved by Mr Martin LIAO in the proposed resolution many jeopardize the general interest of the Council and upset its ethics
這是第一個論點。
This is the first argument
我可以指出一些更基本的概念，說明這個議會或世界各地的議會究竟在做甚麼。
I can point out most fundamental concepts to explain what this Council or parliaments all over the world are doing exactly
主席，"parler"這個字的意思是說話、議事、論政。
President parler means to speak discuss business and debate politics
主席，我可以跟你說一個故事。
President I can tell you a story
今天在香港特別行政區發生的事情，其實正正在2,400年前曾經發生。
What is happening today in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region indeed happened 2 400 years ago
大家也知道，其實現代民主議會的其中一個發源地，就是希臘雅典。
It is common knowledge that one of the birthplaces of modern democracy is Athens Greece
那件事其實與我們正在做的事主席這數天不斷說我們要連續開會，開到"天荒地老"這件事有關。
It was related to what we are doing―the President has been saying we will continuously hold meetings until the end of time
我相信大家都知道，有一位著名的哲學家叫蘇格拉底。
I believe Honourable colleagues all know a notable philosopher called SOCRATES
他也是西方哲學之父，平日最喜歡議論朝政、批評政府及討論人生的道理。
He was the founder of Western philosophy and loved to debate politics criticize the government and discuss thoughts of life
正正因為他說話太多，令當時的希臘政府不滿，將蘇格拉底拘捕並作出起訴，將他送上法庭。
Precisely because of his talkative nature he vexed the then Greek Government which arrested and prosecuted him and sent him to court
其實，他只是說話太多，並無犯任何錯失。
In fact he just talked too much and did not commit any mistake
結果，501名市民的僅僅過半數認為蘇格拉底應該有罪，應該被判處死刑。
The verdict was just over half of the 501 citizens considered SOCRATES guilty and should be sentenced to death
死刑的原因是說話太多。
The reason for the death penalty was he had talked too much
正如議會今次修改《議事規則》，我也深感猶如被判死刑。
Similarly as regards making amendments to RoP I also deeply feel like being sentenced to death
可能某些同事真的很喜歡說話、批評政府及議論時政。
Perhaps some Honourable colleagues really like to talk criticize the Government and debate politics
我當然知道，民主派議員在接下來的發言中，會告訴主席很多理由，解釋為何我們不應該在這一刻修訂《議事規則》。
I certainly know that Members from the pro - democracy camp will give the President many reasons in their speeches later to explain why we should not amend RoP at this very moment
但是，我想提出另一個基本及原則性的問題，就是程序公義。
However I wish to put forth another fundamental matter of principle that is procedural justice
我亦並非抗拒對《議事規則》進行修訂，但是，我們應了解比較正常和公平的程序。
Also I do not resist making amendments to RoP but we should understand procedures that are relatively normal and fair
主席，在上一屆立法會，我參加了英國下議院的國會課程，很多在座的議員也曾參加。
President in the last Legislative Council I took part in a parliamentary course organized by the House of Commons of the United Kingdom previously so did many Honourable colleagues who are now present
回來後，我提出一項實質的《議事規則》修訂。
After coming back I proposed a substantive amendment to RoP
當然，亦有部分議員同事認為這項建議削弱了議員發言的權利。
Of course some Honourable colleagues held that such a proposal undermined Members right to speak
但是，主席，我必須指出，我支持楊岳橋議員根據《規事規則》第401條提出的這項議案，就是因為今次的修訂建議所有修訂建議都欠缺程序公義。
Nevertheless President I must point out that I support the motion proposed by Mr Alvin YEUNG under RoP 401 exactly because the proposed amendments―all the proposed amendments―lack procedural justice
不是開了一次或者兩次議事規則委員會的會議，進行了一個星期的諮詢就是有程序公義。
Procedural justice is not served by holding one or two CRoP meetings and conducting a one - week consultation
這次廖長江議員的26項修訂建議，加上我們民主派議員的數十項修訂建議合共50多項修訂建議在短短3個月之內完成了討論，加上一個多星期的諮詢，便交到立法會會議上討論。
This time Mr Martin LIAOs 26 proposed amendments in addition to the dozens proposed by us Members from the pro - democracy camp―altogether some 50 proposed amendments―were tabled at the Legislative Council meeting after the conclusion of a three - month brief discussion and a consultation exercise lasting more than a week
如果是這樣的話，我深感以後這個議會會淪為更撕裂的戰場。
If it is the case I deeply feel that the Council will be reduced to an even more dissented battlefield
這個局面我不想看到，而我深信很多同事也不想看到。
It is a situation I do not wish to see and I believe neither do many Honourable colleagues
議會的辯論質素及審議議案的質素，亦很重要。
The quality of debate and examination of motions in the Council is also crucial
所以，主席，你收到兩份御用大律師和資深大律師的意見，原來將全體委員會的法定人數由一半降至20人，存在違反《基本法》的風險。
Therefore President you received two opinions from a Queens Counsel and a Senior Counsel which pointed out the risk of violating the Basic Law incurred in lowering the quorum of a committee of the whole Council from half of the Council to 20 Members
你應該聽取張超雄議員或者其他議員的提議，就此事再取得更清晰的法律意見。
You should have adopted Dr Fernando CHEUNGs or other Members proposals to seek anew more unequivocal legal opinions
雖然建制派同事已給你不同的法律意見，但你應該多取得另一個法律意見，才考慮會否批准這項修訂建議提交至立法會會議討論，這才是正常程序。
Though Honourable colleagues from the pro - establishment camp had already submitted to you a different legal opinion you should have at least obtained another one before considering whether to approve the tabling of the proposed amendment at the Legislative Council meeting . It is the normal procedure
我覺得非常可惜，因為《議事規則》內各項規則其實是環環相扣的。
I find this most unfortunate because various rules of RoP are indeed interlocked
雖然廖長江議員是一位非常資深的大律師，他提出的修訂建議其實在法理上有點漏洞，並不能首尾呼應。
Though a very senior barrister Mr Martin LIAO introduced proposed amendments that are somewhat legally flawed and lack coherence throughout
我知道他花了整個暑假閱讀《議事規則》的修訂建議，但他應該聆聽意見，因為即使他認為作出這些修訂是為了提升效率，其實我再說一次效率和質素同樣重要。
I know he spent the entire summer break reading the proposed amendments to RoP but he should listen to other views because notwithstanding his view that such amendments are conducive to enhancement of efficiency―I repeat―efficiency and quality are equally important
我在此立此存照，主席，即使很不幸地、非常難過地，這次《議事規則》的修訂建議全部獲得通過，身為議事規則委員會副主席，我希望以後繼續努力，將一些被修改得不合情理、粗疏的、犯駁的、不合體統的條文，經過既定程序，與各黨各派議員商討後，再提出一些修訂。
I put it on record here that President even with great misfortune and sadness all the proposed amendments to RoP are passed this time as Deputy Chairman of CRoP I wish to carry on the efforts to propose some amendments to the provisions that have been amended to become unreasonable sloppy inconsistent and improper through the established procedures and after discussion with Members from different parties and groupings
我希望各位議員以開放、平靜的心情考慮我以後提出的修訂。
I hope all Members will consider the amendments to be proposed by me in an open and calm manner
數量不會太多，因為我知道大家對很多事情欠缺信心或信任。
These amendments will not be too many because I know we lack confidence and trust over many issues
我希望大家撥出時間，看看這些改進。
I hope all Honourable colleagues can set aside the time to look at such improvements
我希望，即使這個議會死掉，我也可以把它起死救生。
I hope that even if the Council is dead I can still bring it back to life
我支持楊岳橋議員的議案。
I support Mr Alvin YEUNGs motion
根據《房屋條例》第41條及終審法院就盧少蘭訴香港房屋委員會一案的判詞，房委會有責任"確保"為各類人士"提供"委員會認為適合附屬於房屋的設施。
According to section 41 of the Housing Ordinance and the Court of Final Appeals judgment in the case of Lo Siu Lan v Hong Kong Housing Authority it is a responsibility of HA to secure the provision of amenities ancillary to housing as HA thinks fit for different kinds of persons
特區政府一直沒有機制定期檢討拆售後的資產對資助房屋居民的影響，亦沒有機制為屋邨補充因拆售而欠缺的設施。
Yet there have been no mechanisms for the Special Administrative Region SAR Government to regularly review the impact of the divestment to residents of subsidized housing nor is there a mechanism to replenish facilities of housing estates that are lacking due to the divestment
由此可見，特區政府既沒有措施"確保"並"提供"設施，也沒有定期審視這些設施的"適合"程度，即沒有履行《房屋條例》訂明的責任。
Hence the SAR Government has failed to discharge its responsibilities stipulated in the Housing Ordinance having neither the measures to secure the provision of amenities nor the practice of regularly reviewing the fitness of those amenities
公眾亦質疑領展作為房地產投資信託基金，其角色及所受的監管是否適合時宜。
As a real estate investment trust Link REIT is also questioned by the public regarding its role and whether the oversight to which it is subjected is appropriate to the times
特區政府從未就此向立法會作出具體解釋，亦沒有設立機制及指定一個部門負責處理上述問題，而立法會內亦沒有場合供議員專責和仔細地調查政府的角色、政府當年出售資產的合約和文件，以及《房地產投資信託基金守則》監管領展的成效。
The SAR Government has so far offered no specific explanations on the matter to the Legislative Council nor has it established a mechanism and designated a department to address the issue . Moreover there are no occasions in the Legislative Council for Members to investigate in a dedicated and meticulous manner the role of the Government the government contracts and documents of the divestment at that time as well as the effectiveness of the Code on Real Estate Investment Trusts in the oversight of Link REIT
立法會的重要職能是監察政府，避免行政當局逃避法律責任，損害公眾利益。
It is an important function of the Legislative Council to monitor the Government and to prevent the evasion of legal liabilities by the Administration that would jeopardize public interest
因此，立法會有必要透過深入調查問題成因及提出建議，確保政府履行《房屋條例》第41條中的責任，為資助房屋居民提供適合的設施。
It is therefore imperative for the Legislative Council to investigate in depth the causes of the problem and make suggestions so as to ensure the proper discharge of responsibilities by the Government under section 41 of the Housing Ordinance to provide residents of subsidized housing with appropriate amenities
因此我們懇請各位議員支持，在立法會轄下成立一個專責委員會，調查上述事宜。
For these reasons we implore Members to support the establishment of a select committee under the Legislative Council to investigate the aforementioned matter
議員現在可以坐下。
Members will now please be seated
支持這項要求的議員有：鄺俊宇議員、涂謹申議員、許智峯議員、邵家臻議員、梁耀忠議員、林卓廷議員、尹兆堅議員、黃碧雲議員、葉建源議員、胡志偉議員、莫乃光議員、梁繼昌議員、郭榮鏗議員、譚文豪議員、郭家麒議員、毛孟靜議員、陳淑莊議員、楊岳橋議員、張超雄議員、朱凱廸議員、陳志全議員、鄭松泰議員、陳沛然議員及葉劉淑儀議員。
Members who support this request are Mr KWONG Chun - yu Mr James TO Mr HUI Chi - fung Mr SHIU Ka - chun Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Mr LAM Cheuk - ting Mr Andrew WAN Dr Helena WONG Mr IP Kin - yuen Mr WU Chi - wai Mr Charles Peter MOK Mr Kenneth LEUNG Mr Dennis KWOK Mr Jeremy TAM Dr KWOK Ka - ki Ms Claudia MO Ms Tanya CHAN Mr Alvin YEUNG Dr Fernando CHEUNG Mr CHU Hoi - dick Mr CHAN Chi - chuen Dr CHENG Chung - tai Dr Pierre CHAN and Mrs Regina IP
有沒有遺漏剛才站立的議員的姓名？
Did I miss any name of those Members who just stood up?
如果沒有，合共有24位議員支持這項要求。
If not we have 24 Members in total supporting this request
按照《議事規則》第206條，這項呈請書即告交付專責委員會處理。
In accordance with RoP 206 the petition is referred to a select committee . The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 212 of the Rules of Procedure No . 40 ― Queen Elizabeth Foundation for the Mentally Handicapped Report and Accounts 2016 - 2017 No
連同立法會財務委員會近年就港珠澳大橋相關項目通過的追加撥款，香港負擔大橋的整體造價由最初約1,000億港元大幅增加至最少1,200億港元，增幅達20%，特區政府卻未能為有關工程的成本定出上限。
Taking into account the supplementary provisions endorsed by the Finance Committee of the Legislative Council for the relevant projects of the Hong Kong - Zhuhai Macao Bridge in recent years the overall construction costs borne by Hong Kong have jumped 20 % from about 100 billion initially to at least 120 billion . Yet the Special Administrative Region SAR Government is unable to cap the costs of the relevant projects
特區政府一直未能確實具體地解釋超支原因，亦從未提出任何建議避免超支，而立法會內亦沒有任何場合供議員專責和仔細地調查超支事宜。
The SAR Government has hitherto failed to provide neither a definite and specific explanation for the cost overruns nor any suggestions to avoid them . And there are no other occasions in the Legislative Council for Members to investigate the cost overruns in a dedicated and meticulous manner
因此，我們懇請各位議員支持在立法會轄下成立一個專責委員會，調查上述事宜。
For these reasons we implore Members to support the establishment of a select committee under the Legislative Council to investigate the aforementioned matter
支持這項要求的議員有：鄺俊宇議員、涂謹申議員、許智峯議員、邵家臻議員、梁耀忠議員、林卓廷議員、尹兆堅議員、黃碧雲議員、葉建源議員、胡志偉議員、莫乃光議員、梁繼昌議員、郭榮鏗議員、譚文豪議員、郭家麒議員、毛孟靜議員、陳淑莊議員、楊岳橋議員、張超雄議員、朱凱廸議員、陳志全議員、鄭松泰議員及陳沛然議員。
Members who support this request are Mr KWONG Chun - yu Mr James TO Mr HUI Chi - fung Mr SHIU Ka - chun Mr LEUNG Yiu - chung Mr LAM Cheuk - ting Mr Andrew WAN Dr Helena WONG Mr IP Kin - yuen Mr WU Chi - wai Mr Charles Peter MOK Mr Kenneth LEUNG Mr Dennis KWOK Mr Jeremy TAM Dr KWOK Ka - ki Ms Claudia MO Ms Tanya CHAN Mr Alvin YEUNG Dr Fernando CHEUNG Mr CHU Hoi - dick Mr CHAN Chi - chuen Dr CHENG Chung - tai and Dr Pierre CHAN
如果沒有，合共有23位議員支持這項要求。
If not we have 23 Members in total supporting this request
按照《議事規則》第206條，這項呈請書即告交付專責委員會處理。
In accordance with RoP 206 the petition is referred to a select committee
為何在主席前所未有地不惜加開會議，甚至要求某些議員更改機票押後假期外遊，也要在聖誕節前表決修改《議事規則》的決議案之際，我們反而要求將之煞停？
Why? . At a time when the President has gone to great lengths even by such means as unprecedentedly convening additional meetings and requesting some Members to change their flight reservations to defer their trips outside Hong Kong during the holidays to ensure that the voting on the resolution to amend the RoP can take place before Christmas why are we going the opposite way by demanding that it be stopped in its track?
當然是因為現在有個活生生、"新鮮"到不得了的例子其他同事剛 才也不下一次提及便是今早我們提出呈請調查領展房地產投資信託基金時，葉劉淑儀議員出乎意料地與我們站在一起，表達她希望成立專責委員會的意願。
Of course this is because there is now a real - life example that could not be more oven fresh―other Honourable colleagues have also mentioned it more than once just now―that is this morning when we presented a petition to look into Link Real Estate Investment Trust Link REIT Mrs Regina IP unexpectedly rose together with us to express her wish for a select committee to be set up
這個畫面正好說明，我們確實需要在此時此刻停一停，想一想，重新審視把呈請人數門檻由20人大幅增至35人，是否真的是個聰明且正確的決定。
This scene precisely illustrates that we really have to pause think and re - examine whether or not the decision to raise the threshold for the presentation of a petition significantly from 20 people to 35 people is really wise and correct
主席，我在動議中止待續議案發言時已提過，"拉布"或在《議事規則》下容許的一些拖延策略絕非民主派的專利，實際上，所有議員也有權利使用，呈請亦然。
President in my speech moving the motion of adjournment I already mentioned that filibusters or some delaying tactics permitted under RoP are by no means the monopoly of the pro - democracy camp in fact all Members have the right to use them and the same is true of petitions
當然，保皇黨同事已有足夠票數引用《立法會條例》調查他們關心的事情。
Of course Honourable colleagues of the pro - Government camp have enough votes to invoke the provisions of the Legislative Council Ordinance to look into matters of concern to them
但大家不要忘記一個很重要的政治現實：所謂的建制派或保皇黨其實與民主派一樣，分為多個不同黨派和板塊。
However Members must not forget a very important political reality The so - called pro - establishment camp or pro - Government camp just like the pro - democracy camp is divided into various political parties groupings and sectors
在建制派內的少數派如果想提出呈請，卻因為多數派基於各種原因而不願配合，他們唯一可行的辦法便是爭取我們民主派的支持。
If the minority in the pro - establishment camp want to present a petition but the majority are unwilling to collaborate for various reasons their only feasible course of action is to lobby the pro - democracy camp for support
今早葉劉淑儀議員的舉動正好說明，增加呈請人數必然會削弱民主派及在未來日子建制派內的少數派議員的力量。
The move taken by Mrs Regina IP this morning shows precisely that increasing the number of people required for presentation of a petition will definitely undermine the power of the pro - democracy camp and in the future Members who are the minority in the pro - establishment camp
我在此特別再次呼籲葉劉淑儀議員稍後支持我提出的中止待續議案，如果中止待續議案不獲通過，亦希望葉劉淑儀議員能否決廖長江議員對《議事規則》的修訂，因為葉劉淑儀議員的一票反對票在分組點票上將會發揮非常、非常重要的功用。
Here once again I specifically call on Mrs Regina IP to support the motion of adjournment moved by me later on . If this motion of adjournment is not passed I still hope that Mrs Regina IP can vote against the amendments to RoP proposed by Mr Martin LIAO because Mrs Regina IPs opposing vote will serve a very very important purpose in the division
當然，我更希望容海恩議員能夠把握機會，不要再錯過葉劉淑儀議員今早的感召，因為我相信新民黨是團結的，就讓我們給她們機會展現團結。
Of course I hope all the more that Ms YUNG Hoi - yan could seize this opportunity rather than once again miss the opportunity to respond to the inspirational gesture made by Mrs Regina IPs this morning because I believe the New Peoples Party is united so let us give them a chance to show their unity
主席，我希望議員同事能再三考慮支持我的中止待續議案，另一原因亦是很多同事曾提及的違憲問題。
President I hope Honourable colleagues can carefully reconsider supporting my motion of adjournment . Another reason is the violation of the constitution as many Honourable colleagues have raised
就這一點，主席，我認為你應暫時把擬議決議案擱在一邊，除了可以再加三思外，亦不妨再外聘法律顧問，專門為今次的修訂提供法律意見。
On account of this point President I believe you should set aside the proposed resolution for the time being . In addition to allowing us to think twice we can also hire external legal advisers to offer a legal opinion specifically on the amendments this time around
如此一來，既可釋除同事以至社會的疑慮，亦可避免這類憲制問題拖延議會運作。
In this way the doubts of Honourable colleagues and even the community can be allayed and any obstruction posed by this kind of constitutional issues to the functioning of the legislature can be pre - empted
所以，我真誠希望主席可以好好考慮。
Therefore I hope sincerely that the President could give this serious consideration
主席，我今次提出中止待續議案的第三個理由針對合併辯論。
President the third reason for my moving the motion of adjournment this time around is targeted at the joint debate . Maybe we can do a little bit of calculation
不妨計算一下，今次共有49項修改《議事規則》的建議，民主派有23位議員，若每人就每項修訂建議發言15分鐘，49項加起來要花整整16,905分鐘，超過280小時。
This time there are 49 proposals on amending RoP . There are 23 Members in the pro - democracy camp . If each of them speaks on each amendment proposal for 15 minutes 49 items would take a total of 16 905 minutes or more than 280 hours
一般來說，立法會會議在周三早上11時開始至晚上8時，周四早上9時至晚上8時舉行，合共20小時，扣除口頭質詢及建制派議員每小時獲發的15分鐘休息時間計算雖然這情況在過去兩小時並沒有出現即每周有15小時會議時間，差不多要足足21周才能完成相關辯論。
Generally speaking the Legislative Council meeting is convened from 11col00 am to 8col00 pm on Wednesday and 9col00 am to 8col00 pm on Thursday and this adds up to a total of 20 hours . Deduct from this the time for oral questions and the 15 - minute breaks given to Members of the pro - establishment camp every hour―although such an instance has not arisen in the past two hours―that means the meeting time is 15 hours per week and almost as many as 21 weeks are needed to complete the relevant debate
不過很可惜，主席把49項涉及不同範疇的修訂建議有如"萬佛朝宗"般合而為一，每人只可發言15分鐘。
Unfortunately the President rolled all 49 amendment proposals involving different areas into one and each Member can speak for 15 minutes only
簡單而言，主席，你欠我們最少300小時的發言時間。
Simply put President you owe us at least 300 hours of speaking time