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主席，根據慣例，議員在議案提交限期前提出的修正案如有手民之誤或含糊之處，秘書處會向議員確認並要求提交修正本。
President according to the established practice if there are any typos or ambiguities in Members amendments submitted before the deadline the Secretariat will ascertain with the Members concerned and ask for a revised version
楊岳橋議員，你所提述的是秘書處的一貫做法。
Mr Alvin YEUNG what you have just said is actually the established practice of the Secretariat
主席，我現在想根據《議事規則》第91條，動議暫停執行《議事規則》第381條，令議員可以就此項合併辯論發言多於1次，即議員根據《基本法》第七十五條就修訂《議事規則》而提出的擬議決議案。
President I would like to move under RoP 91 to suspend RoP 381 so that Members may speak more than once in this joint debate on the proposed resolutions moved under Article 75 of the Basic Law to amend RoP
所以，希望主席能夠考慮豁免執行有關規定，亦容許我們討論第91條。
Therefore I hope that the President will consider waiving the relevant requirement and allow us to discuss RoP 91
主席，我謹動議通過以我名義提出的......
President I move that the motion proposed under my name be passed
主席，我現在根據《中華人民共和國香港特別行政區基本法》第七十五條，希望修訂《議事規則》第3、79及92條。
President I propose that Rules 3 76 and 92 of the Rules of Procedure RoP be amended in accordance with Article 75 of the Basic Law of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the Peoples Republic of China
主席，聯合國教育、科學及文化組織及各國議會聯盟一直倡議全世界不同國家議會應有更佳的操作，兩個組織在2005年出版了一本名為《議會行事守則手冊》，提出一個良好議會必須具備的4項基本條件。
President the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization UNESCO and the Inter - Parliamentary Union have all along been advocating better practice in parliaments of different countries around the world . The two organizations issued A Guide to Parliamentary Practice A Handbook in 2005 . The Guide sets out the four basic requirements of a good parliament
這4個條件是：第一、其權力必須寫入憲法並受到憲法所保障；第二、其組成必須能代表社會的各個階層，以反映社會的多元性；第三、必須獨立於行政機關；及第四，能讓多數成員自由表達意見。
These are the four requirements . First its powers should be enshrined in and guaranteed by the Constitution . Second a parliament should be constituted in such a way as to be representative of all sectors of society in its diversity
很多國際專家和公民社會在衡量議會運作，是否民主、開放、優質、有效率時，這4項條件成為基本因素。
Third it should be independent of the executive . Fourth it should allow for plurality of expression . Many international experts and civil societies regard these four criteria as the basic factors for assessing whether or not the operation of a parliament is democratic open quality and efficient
其後，他們提出了進一步補充，例如在2012年的"議會開放宣言"，當中指出一個開放民主的議會，必須推廣"議會資訊開放文化"、"議會資訊透明化"、"簡化議會資訊取得"等，這些都是一個良好議會應有的元素。
After that the two organizations made an addition to the Guide . In the Declaration on Parliamentary Openness made in 2012 for example it points out that a democratic and open parliament must promote a culture of openness on parliamentary information make parliamentary information transparent and ease access to parliamentary information and so on . These are the essential elements of a good parliament
可惜的是，主席，如果以這套標準來量度今天香港的立法會是否達標的話，我們的立法會肯定大大落後於這些宣言所訂下的國際通用的議會運作標準。
Regrettably President if we check the Legislative Council of Hong Kong today against this set of standards the Legislative Council is definitely lagging far behind the international common standards of parliamentary operation
就以最簡單一項代表性為例，功能界別本身是否真正具有代表性已令人成疑。
We can look at the simplest factor representativeness as an example . The true representativeness of the functional constituency is questionable
事情發展至今天，當然是更加離譜。
The developments hitherto have been even more ridiculous
建制派同事藉詞民主派議員"拉布"，趁有數名民主派議員被DQ之際，乘機修改《議事規則》。
Colleagues from the pro - establishment camp on the pretext of pro - democracy Members filibustering have exploited the gap where several pro - democracy Members had been disqualified DQ to amend RoP
究竟這是否達到一個開放、公平、公開的議會呢？
Is this an open fair and transparent legislature?
當然，我相信香港人自然會有一個公論。
I am certain that the people of Hong Kong will pass a fair judgment on this
主席，我從來不諱言，今天我們提出修訂《議事規則》是有兩個原因，其一，當然是要抵擋建制派的修訂，以防止建制派可以為所欲為。
President I have never been shy of stating that there are two reasons for proposing the amendments to RoP today . First it is to counter the amendments proposed by the pro - establishment camp so that they cannot do whatever they want
不過，很可惜，在主席配合下，以及彼強我弱的議會形勢下，我們現在只能夠知其不可為而為之。
But regrettably with the cooperation of the President and in the prevailing situation in the legislature where we are weak and they are strong we can only persevere with the impossible
其二，我們認真地希望在議會來一次辯論，探討一個真正優質、有效率、開放而民主的議會，究竟應該是怎樣。
Second we earnestly hope that a debate on what a quality efficient open and democratic legislature should be could be held in this Council
實際上，《議事規則》又應該如何配合這個理想目標，而非像建制派般，只要是不符合他們的利益，或者阻礙他們通過政府法案，便妄斷要修改《議事規則》。
In fact in what ways can RoP facilitate the achievement of this target? . RoP should not be amended arbitrarily as what the pro - establishment camp is trying to do now that is when the rules are not in their interest or prevent them from passing Government motions they consider amendments necessary
正因如此，主席，我今天提出的3項修訂均循議會自主、開放及民主的原則提出修訂，以令議會的運作更加優質。
Precisely for this reason President my three amendments today are proposed true to the principles of achieving an independent open and democratic legislature striving for quality operation of the legislature
當然，我明白建制派的同事必然會反對，因為這些優質的運作，正正會破壞他們維護既得利益、為惡法清除障礙的陽謀。
Certainly I understand that colleagues from the pro - establishment camp will oppose these amendments anyway for these quality practices will thwart their blatant attempt to protect their vested interests and remove obstacles for the passage of draconian laws
首先，我進入第一項修訂，即加入第3A條"立法會的自主權"，"立法會主席在執行職務時，須時刻保持和維護立法會的自主權"。
First I will come to my first amendment that is to add Rule 3A Autonomy of the Council and I quote The President in discharging of his duties shall preserve and defend the autonomy of the Legislative Council at all times
正如我剛才提及的《議會行事守則手冊》所指，議會必須獨立於行政機關，不受行政機關所操縱，亦不受行政機關所影響。
It is pointed out in A Guide to Parliamentary Practice A Handbook which I mentioned earlier that a parliament must be independent of the executive neither be manipulated nor affected by the executive
這關乎立法機關的基本角色和責任問題，縱使《基本法》裏面沒有明言，但綜合《基本法》第七十三條關於立法會職權的條文，便可以理解立法會的基本責任，除了立法外，主席，必然就是監督和制衡政府。
It is a matter concerning the basic role and responsibilities of the legislature . Though it is not stated explicitly in the Basic Law we understand from Article 73 of the Basic Law which is about the powers and functions of the Legislative Council that apart from enacting legislation President the fundamental responsibility of the Legislative Council must be to oversee and exercise checks and balances on the Government
縱使近年中央政府多次否定"三權分立"，要搞"三權合作"，但無可否認的是，議會不獨立於行政機關便難以發揮《基本法》內監督政府的功能。
Despite repeated negations of the separation of powers in Hong Kong and the call for cooperation of the three powers of the Central Government in recent years it is undeniable that when the legislature is not independent of the executive it can hardly fulfil its functions under the Basic Law of overseeing the Government
在本質而言，這又是否違反《基本法》呢？
Is this a contravention of the Basic Law in nature?
非常可悲的是，在現屆立法會內，我們已多次看到立法會主席即主席閣下，你在執行職務時，有偏頗行政機關之嫌。
It is extremely lamentable that during the current - term Legislative Council we have seen the President of the Legislative Council―that is you the President―repeatedly show bias in favour of the executive in performing his duties
其中一次表表者，正是今年本會在處理《2017年撥款條例草案》時，主席，當你根據《議事規則》作出裁決時，不單諮詢政府意見這已經是匪夷所思的事。
A remarkable example is the processing of the Appropriation Bill 2017 where the President consulted the views of the Government in making his ruling according to RoP
其後，在處理議員的修正案時，更厚此薄彼，容許政府有超長時間回覆議員的修訂，甚至政府過了原定回覆時間兩天才作出回覆，也得以容許，但卻只給議員10多小時來回應政府的回覆。
This is inconceivable . After that he practiced favouritism in handling Members amendments by allowing the Government an excessively long period for responding to Members amendments and even when the Government gave its replies two days after the specified date he still granted his approval . Yet he had given Members only a dozen of hours to respond to the replies of the Government
主席，你偏頗行政機關的情況，的確非常嚴重。
President your favouritism towards the executive is extremely serious indeed
主席，這些偏頗的裁決，提醒我們要修訂《議事規則》，以確保主席在行使職務時，不要失憶，忘記立法會的本質就是監督政府，而非配合政府。
President these biased rulings reminded us that RoP must be amended to ensure that the President in performing his duties will not forget that the Legislative Council is by nature meant to oversee but not cooperate with the Government . It seems that the President is suffering from amnesia
主席，做人不能忘本，這次加入第3A條，就是要提醒主席你，以及將來的主席，不能夠忘記議會的基本職責，亦希望主席能夠做一位稱職的主持人。
President we should never forget the origin . The present addition of Rule 3A is to remind you the incumbent President as well as the future Presidents to bear in mind this fundamental duty of the legislature . I hope the President will act as a competent chairperson
我亦希望建制派議員針對這條文本身，這條文是一項為議會將來奠下基礎、訂立原則的條文，我看不到任何原因，建制派同事應該反對。
I also hope that Members from the pro - establishment camp will focus on the rule per se for it seeks to lay a good foundation and set out principles for the future of the legislature . I do not see any reason for colleagues from the pro - establishment camp to oppose it
至於第二項修訂，是在第79B條後，新加入第79C條。第79C條整項條文，也是關乎委員會的運作。
As for the second amendment that is the addition of Rule 79C after Rule 79B it is about the operation of committees
我加入這條文的目的，是要確保立法會的委員會如非必要，均應開放給公眾及新聞界旁聽。
The objective of the addition of this rule is to ensure that meetings of committees will be conducted in an open manner and open to observation of the public and the press
若舉行閉門會議，須先得到委員會或小組委員會全部委員三分之二的同意方可舉行"。
If a meeting is to be held in camera it shall be so decided by two - thirds majority of the Members of that committee or subcommittee
主席，在撰寫這條文的時候，我有以下3點考慮：第一、大前提是開放所有會議予公眾。
President in drafting this rule I have considered three factors . First the premise is that all meetings should be open to the public
正如我剛才提及，"推廣議會開放文化"是國際社會的潮流。
As I mentioned earlier promoting a culture of openness of the parliament is the trend of the international community
根據"議會監督組織"的建議，議會本身必須制訂措施，以確保議會開放。
According to the recommendations of parliamentary monitoring organizations a parliament must formulate measures to ensure the openness of the parliament
現時，我們在這方面可以算是非常落後。
We are in a serious lag now in this aspect
在《議事規則》中訂定條文，以確保會議開放是最有效的方法。
Hence the most effective way to ensure the openness of the legislature is to make such a rule in RoP
第二、我們理解部分會議不適合完全開放，因此在訂定條文時，容許部分會議可以根據慣例以閉門形式進行；及第三，提供機制讓委員會在必要時可以閉門形式進行，但由於大前提是要開放會議，這個機制的門檻必須相當高，以防止濫用。
Second we understand that certain meetings are not suitable to be completely open to the public . Hence in drafting the rule we have allowed certain meetings customarily conducted in camera continue to be held as closed meetings . Third the rule provided a mechanism for committees to conduct meetings in camera when necessary
主席，我這項建議對現時實際運作的改變不大，只是將一些重要原則，以清晰條文訂定下來，以便日後大家在運作上有清晰的依從。
Since the premise is to promote openness in the legislature the threshold of the mechanism is set at a high level to prevent abuse . President my proposal will not cause any significant change to the existing operation in actuality . The proposal is merely putting certain important principles into clear provisions so that they may offer clear guidance for operation in future
針對這點而言，我亦相信建制派議員在維護開放議會的大原則和前提下，與我們不會有任何衝突。
On this point I trust Members from the pro - establishment camp will not take issue with us regarding the main principles and premise of maintaining the openness of the legislature
因此，我奉勸並懇請他們支持相關的修訂。
Hence I advise and implore them to support the relevant amendments
主席，如果第一項修訂的原則是自主，第二項修訂的原則是開放，那第三項修訂的原則就是民主。
President as the principle of the first amendment is autonomy and that of the second amendment is openness the principle of the third amendment is democracy
第三項修訂是針對第92條，關於"議事規則未有規定的程序"。
The third amendment is on RoP 92 concerning Procedure if Rules of Procedure do not provide
第92條的原條文是"對於本議事規則內未有作出規定的事宜，立法會所須遵循的方式及程序由立法會主席決定；如立法會主席認為適合，可參照其他立法機關的慣例及程序處理。
The original text of RoP 92 reads In any matter not provided for in these Rules of Procedure the practice and procedure to be followed in the Council shall be such as may be decided by the President who may if he thinks fit be guided by the practice and procedure of other legislatures
"我的修訂是在"如立法會主席認為適合，可"後，加入"諮詢議事規則委員會及"，即主席要諮詢議事規則委員會，同時亦應參照其他立法機關的慣例及程序處理。
My amendment proposes to add consult the Committee on Rules of Procedure and after if he thinks fit―meaning that the President has to consult the Committee on Rules of Procedure CRoP and refer to the practice and procedure of other legislatures
主席，這項修訂的最大用意，就是讓主席的權力得到多一點支援，同時也有所制約，因為第92條本身正是要處理一些不確定性較高的情況，而這些情況過去在立法會可能從未出現或從未被預計。
President the principal intent of this amendment is to provide additional support to the power of the President and to ensure that such power is subject to restrictions as RoP 92 per se deals with the handling of scenarios of greater uncertainty
因為如果曾經出現，便已經有慣例或有所指引。
Those scenarios may have never occurred in the Legislative Council in the past or may be unforeseeable for if the scenarios have occurred in the past there are established practices or guidelines to follow
在此情況下，除參考外國例子外，容許主席諮詢其他意見會有助主席處理得更周到及純熟。
Against this background apart from drawing reference to overseas examples it will help the President to handle the scenario in a more comprehensive and skillful manner if the President is allowed to consult the views of others
在云云委員會中，議事規則委員會應該是最適合的委員會，可以協助 主席處理相關情況。
Among the many other committees in the legislature CRoP should be the most suitable committee to assist the President in handling such scenarios
因此，我認為加入相關條文是合理、公道，亦容許主席將來在行使權力時有所倚靠。
Hence I consider the addition of the relevant provision reasonable and fair which will also provide a certain basis for the President in exercising his power in future
其實，這項條文本身是為保護主席、保護將來行使權力的人，讓他們有一個倚靠及理據。
In fact this provision seeks to protect the President and people who will exercise such power in future by providing some grounds and justifications for their decisions
因此，主席，其實我提出這3項建議，在根本性的原則上，我看不到與建制派議員的利益或政治理念，有很大和根本性的衝突。
Hence President regarding the fundamental principles of the three amendments proposed by me I do not see any significant and fundamental conflicts with Members from the pro - establishment camp in terms of their interests and political ideology . For this reason I hope they will not oppose an opinion merely on the ground of who is advocating the view
正因如此，我希望大家不要因人廢言，大家可能對於民主派甚至是楊岳橋提出的修訂有很多顧忌，但我希望大家理解，我們作為議員只是一時，但今天這個機構是一世的。
Members may have much misgivings about the amendments proposed by the pro - democracy camp or even Mr Alvin YEUNG yet I hope Members will understand that we will only be Members for a limited time but the legislature today will last forever
我們也希望立法會可以繼續存在，而如何令立法會有所進步，適應21世紀的發展，這才是我們應要思考的角度。
We all hope that the Legislative Council will exist continuously . Hence we should consider issues from the perspective of facilitating the advancement of the Legislative Council in coping with developments in the 21century
我不希望大家只因為政治立場不同，因為修訂是由站在這邊的議員提出，便必然地、自動地投反對票。
I hope Members will not consider the amendments merely from their political stance and veto as a matter of course amendments proposed by Members from the other side
就這一點，我懇請同事放下黨派之間的歧見，深切考慮我們的提議。
In this connection I implore colleagues to put aside their partisan difference and give thorough consideration to our proposals
無可否認，謝偉俊議員的辯論技巧非常高超，我必須要盛讚他。
It is undeniable that Mr Paul TSE is most eloquent and skilled in debate and I must sing high praises of him
他引用一些過去的數字，以非常漂亮的手法包裝，嘗試解釋為他們今次將相關門檻由20人大幅增加至35人的理據。
He has cited some figures of the past and presented them in an extremely satisfactory manner trying to make them the justification for raising the threshold significantly from 20 Members to 35 Members
不過，我希望大家聽聽，這些只是散播煙幕、混淆視聽。
Yet please listen to me he is putting up a smokescreen and obscuring the fact
因為呈請書本身只是一個退而求其次的機制。
For the mechanism of petition is already a second - best option
在過去一屆的立法會，議員沒有一次能成功根據《立法會條例》成立調查委員會，而無論是多嚴重的事件，建制派議員每一次是每一次也會否決。
In the previous term Legislative Council 2012 - 2016 Members had never been successful in invoking the Legislative Council Ordinance in establishing investigation committees . Despite the severity of the incidents in question Members from the pro - establishment camp vetoed the motions on every occasion and I must stress that they vetoed them every time
在這種情況下，民主派議員無可奈何，退而求其次地透過呈請書的方法，成立一個專責委員會進行相關調查。
Under this circumstance Members from the pro - democracy camp cannot but resort to the second - best option that is to seek the establishment of a select committee through the presentation of a petition for the purpose of conducting a relevant investigation
究竟透過專責委員會調查事件是否最完美呢？
Is the establishment of a select committee the best way to investigate an incident?
我們每一次也希望建制派議員可以放下歧見，放下他們在政治上的一些束縛，贊同我們成立調查委員會。
In fact whenever we proposed the establishment of a select committee we hoped Members from the pro - establishment camp would put aside their disagreements and restraints in politics to support us
很可惜，每一次最低限度在過去一年及上一個立法年度的這5年間每一次也被他們拒絕。
Regrettably on every occasion―at least in the five - year period including last year and the previous - term Legislative Council―on every occasion the motion was opposed by them
主席，如果我們是在一個公平、完全開放的政治世界中，我相信很多建制派議員也會同意引用《立法會條例》。
President if we were in a fair and fully open political community I trust many Members from the pro - establishment camp would have agreed to invoking the Legislative Council Ordinance
然而， 我們在無可奈何下採用的最後一扇門，我們可以幫助香港人徹查真相的最後一扇門，建制派現在也要將它封上。
However this last door to which we resort in order to help the people of Hong Kong find out the truth is now closed by the pro - establishment camp
主席，就是最低限度在未來3年，民主派將不能再透過這個方法作任何形式的調查。
President it means that in the next three years at least the pro - democracy camp will not be able to initiate investigations of any kind by means of the presentation of petitions
就這點而言，將會對於未來的香港，產生最壞的效果。
Regarding this point it will cause the worse impact on the future of Hong Kong
這個客觀的效果就是民怨，大眾對於政治事件、政治人物，尤其是當權者的一些懷疑，未能透過立法會既有機制徹查。就這點而言，最可笑的或最悲哀的是，現在負責調查"梁振英UGL事件"的專責委員會主席謝偉俊議員，竟然站出來為這個大幅提升門檻護航。這點本身已經是"荒天下之大謬"。
The objective effect is public discontent and the doubts of the public about certain political incidents and political figures particularly those in authority cannot be clarified under the established investigation mechanism of the Legislative Council
我的決定並非倉卒作出，而是經過深思熟慮。
My decisions were not made rashly but were made after careful consideration
代理主席，今天我們應否跟隨建制派帶領的潮流，在第二位議員發言後便提出中止待續的議案呢？
Today Deputy President should we follow the practice led by the pro - establishment camp by proposing a motion for adjournment following the speech delivered by the second Member?
我們或許應該學習建制派的智慧，在第二位議員發言後便要動議中止待續議案。
Perhaps we should learn from the wisdom of the pro - establishment camp to propose a motion for adjournment after the second Member has spoken
我們希望透過這些空間，令建制派真正放下屠刀，讓我們有空間進行真誠討論，無須留在會議廳裏，受電視機直播或本會議廳束縛，以致我們失去應有的政治風度，而應讓議員就討論議題給予對方應有的尊重和空間。
We hope doing so can make the pro - establishment camp call a halt to this massacre so as to give us room to engage in sincere discussion instead of being stuck in this Chamber under the constraint of the live television broadcast or the Council Chamber making it impossible for us to behave like politicians . Indeed Members should treat others with respect and give them scope for discussion
代理主席，今天這個機會，特區政府和建制派的確期待已久，因為我們從來沒有見過在立法會歷史上，建制派同事可以好像今天這樣"胸有成竹"。
Deputy President the Special Administrative Region Government and the pro - establishment camp have long waited for this opportunity today as throughout the history of the Legislative Council we have never seen Honourable colleagues belonging to the pro - establishment camp have a well - thought - out plan as they do today
包括主席在內的建制派議員十分明白，《議事規則》的修訂如箭在弦，而且必定百發百中，因為時間握在建制派手上，《議事規則》的解釋權也握在他們手上。
Members of the pro - establishment camp including the President fully understand that the Rules of Procedure RoP are set to be amended without a single miss as time is in their hands . So is the power of interpreting RoP
無可否認，代理主席，民主派已經失去分組表決否決權，因為民主派有6位同事被DQ，而這種情況也是前所未見的，我們當然可以提出很多例如究竟是否由宣誓或釋法引起的問題。
Deputy President the pro - democracy camp has undeniably lost its vetoing power at separate voting because of the DQ of its six colleagues which is unprecedented . Certainly we can raise many questions such as whether the disqualification was triggered by the oath - taking process or interpretation of the Basic Law
如果我們要追源溯本問下去，代理主席，我們可能要問為何當年北京收回香港的管治權，為何當年發生鴉片戰爭，但這不是我的目的，也不是我想做的事情。
Should we trace the timeline of events and raise more and more questions Deputy President we might ask why Beijing recovered jurisdiction over Hong Kong back then or what led to the Opium War . This is not my intention nor what I wish to do
還是我們凡事都想做到最好，每次都希望把立法會的功能發揮到淋漓盡致，達到真正監督政府的目的呢？
Or do we just want to exert our utmost to do everything and fully perform the function of the Legislative Council on every occasion to really achieve the purpose of monitoring the Government?
當然，這些畫面不常在電視機出現。
Certainly such scenes do not appear on the television screen very often
在席60多位議員無論基於甚麼原因從政，只要踏進這個會議廳，便要為香港人把關。
The 60 or so Members who are present here regardless of the reasons for them to become politicians must perform their gate - keeping roles for the people of Hong Kong once they have entered this Chamber
大家試想一想，如果沒有立法會，又或者立法會偏袒政府甚至跟政府合謀，香港政府這個名列世界上一個最富有的政府，會否變成一隻可怕而且能夠為所欲為的魔鬼呢？
Come to think about this . If the Legislative Council does not exist or if the Legislative Council favours or colludes with the Government will the Hong Kong Government as one of the richest governments in the world turn into a devil capable of doing whatever it wants?
假如今次《議事規則》成功被修改，所有議員日後透過"拉布"向政府施壓的空間，必定會無可奈何地被收窄。
Should RoP be successfully amended this time around Members can only reluctantly accept the fact that there will be less room for them to exert pressure on the Government through filibustering
當然，還有一點需要考慮。
Certainly we should consider one more point
我希望大家緊記，在明年3月完成補選後，民主派將會取回分組點票否決權。
I hope Members can bear in mind that after the completion of the by - election in March next year the pro - democracy camp will regain its vetoing power at separate voting
建制派提出的一些極具人性和十分合理的議案會否同樣被我們反對呢？
Will some motions proposed by the pro - establishment camp be opposed by us even though they are very reasonable and full of humanity? . As the saying goes fortune will rotate at some point in time
印度聖雄甘地曾經說過："緊握拳頭便無法與別人握手"。
There is this quote from Mahatma GANDHI of India You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist
如果敵對雙方一直不肯鬆開拳頭，武力或抗爭只會逐步升級，何況我剛才提過，我們本來不應是敵人。
If the rivalling camps refuse to loosen their fists the use of force or fights will only escalate not to mention as I said earlier we are not supposed to be rivals
所以，代理主席，我希望透過這項中止待續議案，讓在座所有同事放下諸如"你們不'拉布'，我何須修改《議事規則》"，以及"你不修改《議事規則》，我又何須'拉布'"等永無止境的爭拗。
Deputy President I hope this motion for adjournment can make all Honourable colleagues who are present to stop engaging in endless disputes underpinned by such questions as why should I amend RoP if there are no filibusters why should I filibuster if RoP are not to be amended and so on
究竟大家今次真正得到民心還是一時的掌聲呢？
Do Members really win the hearts of the people or just some transient applause from them?
我明白亦承認，現時市民對應否繼續"拉布"和《議事規則》應否修改的問題，存在完全不同的聲音。
I understand and also concede that members of the public hold diametrically opposed views on whether Members should continue to filibuster and whether RoP should be amended
正所謂"你有壓力，我也有壓力"，你有你的支持者，我也有我的支持者。
As the saying goes you are under pressure and so am I
我剛才在主體辯論時指出，我們只是立法會的過客，今天的事也只是一時間的事。
You have your supporters and so do I I pointed out in the motion debate earlier that we as Members of the Legislative Council are all sojourners and what happens today will become history
即使現時最資深的議員涂謹申議員也總有離開議會的一天，我們每位議員，無論是擔任了一屆還是10屆的議員，始終有一天會離開這個制度。
Even Mr James TO the most senior Member in this Council will leave this Council one day . All Members of this Council regardless of whether they have served just one term or 10 terms will leave this institution one day
這些繼任人，應該是跨越黨派之爭的香港人。
This is why we must make joint efforts to protect this institution and pass it to our successor who should be Hong Kong people capable of transcending party lines
這個議會應該屬於香港人，這個議會應該屬於下一代的香港人。
The Legislative Council should belong to Hong Kong people as well as Hong Kong people of the next generation