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至於其他修正案，我會支持。
As for other amendments I will support them
我亦再次多謝大家提出這些修正案，讓我們的議案辯論內容更豐富。
I also thank Members again for their amendments which have further enriched our motion debate
我希望局長能有積極的回應。
I hope the Secretary will respond proactively
可能反對派議員沒有留意或選擇忘記。
Opposition Members may have failed to pay attention or chosen to forget
讓我與大家重溫我當天發言的一些重點，亦讓我回應剛才數位反對派議員提出的論點。
Let me revisit some of the key points of my speech at that time and respond to the arguments made by several opposition Members a while ago
先讓大家回顧一下議會特權的由來。
Let us revisit the origin of parliamentary privileges
眾所周知，香港立法會參考英國國會的威斯敏斯特模式。
As we all know the Legislative Council of Hong Kong was modelled on the Westminster system of the British parliament
主席，以前出任議會議長是很危險的事，曾有議會議長代表議會與國王溝通後被國王處決。
President in the past it was very dangerous to be the speaker of the parliament as a speaker was executed by the king after he communicated with the king on behalf of the parliament
以前公眾也不能一字一句地記錄國會紀錄，因為記錄國會會議文字曾經是犯法的。
Moreover verbatim records of the proceedings of the parliament could not be produced because it was once an offence to do so
所以，以前做議會工作可說是既危險又艱巨，甚至有生命危險。
Therefore it could be said that parliamentary work in the past was dangerous and arduous and could even be life - threatening
隨着議會發展，後期出現有關議會權力及特權的法例，香港亦有相關法例。
With the development of the parliament laws on parliamentary powers and privileges were subsequently enacted and there are related laws in Hong Kong
大家耳熟能詳的是《立法會條例》，《條例》最重要的目的是甚麼？
We are all very familiar with the Legislative Council Ordinance . What is the most important purpose of the Ordinance?
《條例》第3條關於言論自由和辯論自由，即我們在立法會享有言論和辯論自由，任何辯論都不會、亦不得在法院或立法會以外地方受到質疑。
Section 3 of the Ordinance is about freedom of speech and debate ie . there shall be freedom of speech and debate in the Council and such freedom of speech and debate shall not be liable to be questioned in any court or place outside the Council
《條例》第4條關於法律程序的豁免權。
Section 4 of the Ordinance is about immunity from legal proceedings
作為議員，我們不會因為在議會發表言論而被人提起民事或刑事法律訴訟。
No civil or criminal proceedings shall be instituted against Members for words spoken
我剛才提到的《條例》第3條及第4條，保護各位議員毫無顧忌地履行憲制責任。
Sections 3 and 4 of the Ordinance that I mentioned just now protect Members so that we have no scruples about fulfilling our constitutional responsibilities
各位議員在議會就各種公共政策辯論時，也很需要受到保護，讓我們能夠暢所欲言，為香港出謀獻策。
Members also need to be protected when we debate various public policies in the Council so that we can speak freely to provide advice and make suggestions for Hong Kong
另一方面，香港人非常重視司法公義，大家經常說："在法律面前，人人平等"。
On the other hand Hong Kong people attach great importance to judicial justice . As the common saying goes everyone is equal before the law
過去我提過一個例子，古代的包拯備受尊重，因為判案時，不論貧富、貴族、平民，都得到平等對待。
I once gave the example of BAO Zheng in ancient times . He was highly respected because when he made rulings he treated everyone the rich and poor the nobles and civilians equally
現在，反對派經常提到的行政長官或議會同事，亦應在法律面前得到平等對待。
Today the Chief Executive or Honourable colleagues as often mentioned by the opposition camp should also be treated equally before the law
剛才我聽到不少反對派同事表示，不能讓立法會人員作證，因為我們在《條例》下享有的特權，即使有一宗官司需要相關證據，但因為我們有這種特權，所以不應讓立法會人員作證，或將立法會的任何紀錄或文件交給法庭作為證據。
Just now I heard a number of opposition colleagues say that officers of the Council should not be allowed to give evidence owing to our privileges under the Ordinance . Does that mean that even if the relevant evidence is required in a lawsuit we should not given our privileges allow officers of the Council to give evidence or present any records or documents of the Council to the court as evidence?
究竟議會特權與司法公義是否不能共存？
Is it that parliamentary privileges and judicial justice cannot co - exist?
香港人是否只能二擇其一？
Is it that Hong Kong people can only choose one of the two?
所以，在現行法律制度下，在司法公義與法律特權之間提供了一條出路，就是過去一些案例衍生出來的法律原則及《條例》第7條。
Therefore under the current legal system there is a way - out between judicial justice and legal privileges ie . the legal principles derived from some past cases and section 7 of the Ordinance
《條例》第7條下的渠道是，就議會程序作證的大前提，是《條例》第3條及第4條訂明的議會特權不受侵犯，過去的案例亦清楚確定這個原則。
The channel under section 7 of the Ordinance is that the major premise on giving evidence in respect of any proceedings held before the Council is that parliamentary privilege as stipulated in sections 3 and 4 of the Ordinance is not infringed . Past cases have clearly confirmed this principle
被律政司要求作證的6名立法會人員，其中4名目擊事件發生，一名負責操作閉路電視拍攝事件發生，以及另一名負責提供當日事件發生時的閉路電視片段。
Among the six officers of the Council requested by the Department of Justice to give evidence four witnessed the incident one was responsible for operating the CCTV cameras capturing the course of the incident and the other one was responsible for providing the CCTV footage of the incident which happened on that day
如果立法會在這種情況下反對給予許可，社會人士會對立法會有何印象？
If the Council refuses to give leave under such circumstances what impression will the public have on the Council?
立法會議員是否可以行使特權，以致無須就我們在議會的種種行為提供證據或目擊證人，令法庭無法作出公道的裁決？
Can Legislative Council Members exercise their privileges so that they do not need to give evidence or act as witnesses in respect of the incidents that happened in the Council making it impossible for the court to give fair rulings?
如有這種情況，法庭不會容許這些證人或文件在法庭出現或使用。
If this is the case the court will not allow these witnesses or documents to appear or be used in court
就涉及林議員和尹議員的事件，兩位議員也曾對傳媒表示，他們相信法庭會還他們一個清白。
In relation to the case involving Mr LAM and Mr WAN they have also told the media that they believed that the court would clear their name
其實，我們正是要提供中立的證人或證據，讓他們向法庭提供當日發生的事件的真相，讓法庭作出公正裁決，還事實一個真相，還當事人或受害人清白。
In fact by providing neutral witnesses or evidence the court would know what really happened on that day and a fair ruling could be made to reveal the truth of the case and clear the name of the parties or the victims concerned
主席，我今天絕不會支持由張超雄議員提出的，拒絕申請許可的議案。
President I definitely will not support the motion moved by Dr Fernando CHEUNG to refuse to give leave
李慧琼議員，你還有1分13秒答辯。
Ms Starry LEE you have 1 minute 13 seconds to reply
主席，首先，我非常感謝今天接近30位議員就我提出的"落實多元教育紓緩學生及家長壓力"議案發言，當中有很多議員分享了作為家長......
President first of all I am very grateful to the 30 or so Members who have spoken on my motion on Implementing diversified education to alleviate the pressure on students and parents and many of them have shared with us their experiences as parents
正如謝偉俊議員所說，其實教育議題是一項很難的議題，也是一項很容易的議題。
As Mr Paul TSE said education can actually be a very difficult subject and it can also be a very easy subject
雖然大家都有不同意見，而這些意見可能都是互相矛盾的，但總體來說，我認為議員都希望一起努力"落實多元教育紓緩學生及家長壓力"。
Members have expressed different views which may be contradictory but on the whole I think all Members hope to join efforts in Implementing diversified education to alleviate the pressure on students and parents
局長的回答可能令很多家長失望，因為他沒有回應我剛才提出的一個核心問題，即會否考慮在資助體系中引入海外課程或國際課程，讓不同階層的家長有多些選擇。
The replies of the Secretary may disappoint many parents because he has not responded to the core question raised by me earlier on ie . whether he would consider introducing overseas or international curriculum in the subsidized education system so as to provide more choices to parents of different social strata
可能局長今天未必立即能夠答應我，我希望他聽完辯論後再研究，讓本會今天能夠通過議案，以透過政策讓家長有多些選擇，特別是基層家長。
Perhaps the Secretary cannot immediately make any promise to me today but I hope that he will conduct studies after listening to our debate so that after this Council passes this motion today parents particularly grass - roots parents can be provided with more choices through the formulation of policies
主席，我謹此陳辭，希望議員支持今天的議案。
President I so submit and hope that Members will support my motion today
李慧琼議員今天動議"落實多元教育紓緩學生及家長壓力"的議案。
Ms Starry LEE moved the motion on Implementing diversified education to alleviate the pressure on students and parents today
這項議案由建制派提出，我認為其實略帶諷刺。
I consider it slightly ironic for the motion to be proposed by the pro - establishment camp
以我理解，多元教育一直包括3種元素：第一，過去的教育制度究竟有否尊重及捍衞批判思考？
To my understanding diversified education has all along comprised three elements . First has the education system in the past respected and safeguarded critical thinking?
批判思考是指個人的思想解放。
Critical thinking refers to the ideological emancipation of individuals
一直以來，科學發展必然的歷史，就是不斷透過假設、驗證推翻過去錯誤的觀念。
Traditionally scientific development has always involved a history of using hypotheses and empirical tests continuously to refute previous wrong concepts
無論在教學上或教育上，過去多年奉行的方法，其實是實證主義的科學觀。
Whether it be in pedagogy or education the method which has been upheld for years is indeed the scientific outlook on positivism
實證主義的科學觀講求兩點：第一，實事求是。
The scientific outlook on positivism stresses two points first be practical and realistic
我們每每透過客觀的觀察和假設，驗證我們當下的不足之處。
We often have to verify our current shortcomings through objective observation and hypothesis
但是，第二點尤其重要。
However the second point is especially important
我們面對着浩大的科學、宇宙無窮無盡的知識。
We are confronted with the vastness of science as well as unlimited and boundless knowledge of the universe
所以，作為一個人，無論是老師、學生、家長、管理層或特首，都需要謙卑，因為知識是無窮無盡的。
Therefore as an individual whether we are a teacher a student a parent a manager or the Chief Executive we have to remain humble because knowledge is unlimited and boundless . Simply put diversified education must comprise three elements
簡而言之，多元教育必然包含3種元素：在教學的精神上，強調的是批判思考；在教學的方法上，講求的是科學的教學觀；而第三，在教學的態度方面，面對知識時必然要保持謙卑或謙遜的態度。
On the spirit of teaching it stresses critical thinking . On the method of teaching it stresses the scientific outlook on teaching . And third on the attitude of teaching it stresses the need to maintain a humble or modest attitude in front of knowledge
上述3點非常確實，包含了整體現代教學史上最重要的3個元素。
These three points are very specific representing the most important three elements in the entire modern history of teaching
反過來說，談到香港現實的狀況，老實說，過去數年，出現有關落實多元教育或某些說法，例如科學、科技、工程和數學或其後提倡的科學、科技創新等，我其實相對有保留。
On the other hand when it comes to the reality of Hong Kong frankly speaking the implementation of diversified education and some other suggestions have been made in the past few years such as STEM education or subsequent proposals on science technological innovation etc . I actually have some reservations about them
簡而言之，在今時今日香港的政治及社會氣氛下，請不要搞教育界。
In short under the current political and social circumstances in Hong Kong I urge the Government to leave the education sector alone
政府如能維持一個相對穩定的教育環境予教育從業員、老師、校長及學生，已經很足夠。
It would be sufficient if the government could maintain a relatively stable education environment for education practitioners teachers principals and students
過去20年，他們搞得太多了。
They have done too much in the past 20 years
校本管理引入一個管理的思維，日漸加重老師的行政工作，講求成本效益的換算估量，結果卻忽略了學校人性及校園氣氛的照顧。
As a result of a management mentality introduced under school - based management the administrative workload of teachers has been increased and quantity has been emphasized in the assessment of cost effectiveness resulting in negligence in fostering a people - centred school atmosphere on campus
第三，國民教育的風波到目前為止沒有平息過，國民教育的指引繼續引發爭議。
Third the controversy over national education has never ended so far and the guidelines on national education have continued to spark controversy
政府只是以鮮魚行學校作為例子，這間學校經歷了教育局4項大政策改動。
The Government has only used the Fish Traders School as an example . The school has already experienced four major policy changes of the Education Bureau
現在連這一所最聽命於政府的建制學校也面臨"殺校"。
At present even this pro - establishment school which has been most obedient to the Government is also on the verge of being closed down
當然可笑，這必然是制度製造出來的惡果。
Of course . This has been the adverse result created by the system
問題並非出於該學校的教師或學生，而是政府的教育政策朝令夕改，往往透過政治思維指導教育，這必然是死局。
The problem lies not in the teachers or students of that school but in the frequent changes of the Governments education policies . The Government will definitely reach a dead end if it continues to direct education with a political mindset
所以，我懇請各位高抬貴手，放過教育界。
Therefore I urge everyone in the Government to show mercy and spare the education sector
代理主席，其實香港當下的教育問題，關乎香港整體願景與希望。
Deputy President the current education problem in Hong Kong concerns the prospects and hope of Hong Kong as a whole
現時教育工作者最心痛的一點是，很多有質素、有條件的學生，因為大環境而離開香港；大學如是、中學如是，小學亦如是。
At present the educators find it most heart - breaking that many quality students who have high potential are leaving Hong Kong because of the general circumstances . That is the case for universities secondary schools and even primary schools
無奈的是，他現在卻被坊間批評為"高智能廢物"、"知識型敗類"。
Regrettably he has been criticized by members of the community as intelligent waste and intellectual scum
代理主席，他的IQ超過160，並曾接受良好教育，曾服務社會福利界和政府，過去亦曾在扶貧委員會工作多年。
Deputy President his Intelligence Quotient exceeds 160; he has received good education and has served the social welfare sector and the Government; and he has also worked at the Commission on Poverty for years
鄭議員，你的發言時限到了，請停止發言。
Dr CHENG your speaking time is up . Please stop speaking
議員辯論時難免言詞尖銳，但若以"敗類"來形容官員或議員，我認為實非議會中應使用的言詞。
It is inevitable for Members to use sharp rhetoric in debates . That said I do not consider describing an official or a Member as scum to be parliamentary language indeed
陳振英議員，你還有1分5秒答辯。
Mr CHAN Chun - ying you still have one minute five seconds to reply
主席，我再次感謝提出修正案及參與討論的各位議員同事。
President once again I thank Honourable Members who have proposed amendments and participated in the discussion
全球金融科技正以驚人速度影響着我們的未來，希望政府聽到議員在今次辯論中提出的意見和建議後，迅速制訂及採取更積極有效的措施，加快推動金融科技在香港的應用，鞏固香港的國際金融中心地位。
Financial technology Fintech is making an impact on our future at an alarming speed worldwide . After hearing the views and suggestions put forward by Members in this debate I hope that the Government will swiftly formulate and adopt more proactive and effective measures to expedite the promotion of Fintech application in Hong Kong and reinforce Hong Kongs position as an international financial centre
懇請各位投票支持經陳健波議員、莫乃光議員、黃定光議員及張華峰議員修正後的原議案。
I implore Honourable Members to vote in favour of the original motion as amended by Mr CHAN Kin - por Mr Charles Peter MOK Mr WONG Ting - kwong and Mr Christopher CHEUNG
代理主席，聽完謝偉俊議員分享他的求學生活，我心裏有一點羨慕，因為當他有機會由神父帶領結識異性時，我記得我"那年十八，母校舞會，站着如嘍囉"。
Deputy President after listening to the school life of Mr Paul TSE I am a bit envy because when he could follow his school priests to proms to meet girls all I remember is that when I was 18 I stood in my alma maters prom like a fool
每個人生活環境都不同，面對不同的問題。
Every one of us lives in a different environment and has different problems
但是，我們要注意會否出現教育產業化的問題。
However we must watch out for the risk that our education may become industrialized
我們發現多年來的教育改革出現了一個問題。
We find that the education reform in the past few years has led to a problem which is the various study and career paths provided to students come at a cost
當學生要付出代價時，就會出現一個教育理念上的問題，無法達致社會再分配、加強社會流動。
Philosophically the high price borne by students is a problem in education as it hinders redistribution in society and reduces social mobility
優秀的學校逐步變為直資，我甚至懷疑我們的學校不止3個級別，還有另一個級別是國際學校。
As well - established schools have become DSS schools one after another I would say that there are more than three bands in our school banding with the fourth one being international schools
我們在檢討不同的可能性時，需要注意處理擇優的問題，以揀選學生到不同的地方繼續學習。
Therefore when we review different possibilities we must not forget that we should select the best and select the right students to go to the right schools
對於這個地方的整體而言，社會的凝聚力和向心力將會大大稀釋，絕非好事。
It is not desirable to Hong Kong as a whole because social cohesion and solidarity will be greatly reduced
他引用了英國的例子我不會採用他的翻譯，他好像是說甚麼"威斯特拉"的，但據我理解應該是西敏寺其實英國的議會傳統，是要保障議員享有言論自由的特權，他甚至舉例說以往曾經出現即使是記錄議會工作也有性命危險的情況。
He cited the United Kingdom as an example―I am not going to use his version of Chinese translation of Westminster which sounded like 威斯特拉 or something like that because as far as I know it should be 西敏寺―in fact the parliamentary tradition of the United Kingdom is to safeguard the privilege of the freedom of expression enjoyed by Members of Parliament MPs . He even cited an example saying that in the past instances of jeopardy to lives had occurred even in the recording of parliamentary business
在13名委員之中，只有4人是民主派的委員，他們還要得到建制派"恩准"加入，才能夠議事。
Among its 13 members only 4 of them belong to the pro - democracy camp . Moreover we can take part in deliberations only because the pro - establishment camp granted us the gracious permission to join
因此，行管會本身已經存在極大政治不平衡，也是極其不公義的，它喜歡提出修改《議事規則》，便提出修改《議事規則》。
Therefore the political imbalance in the Legislative Council Commission itself is already very great and also extremely unjust . It can put forward proposals to amend the Rules of Procedure RoP whenever it likes
它的主席名為梁君彥，他在選主席時，已經有人指他擁有英國國籍，他最後急急放棄，但我也不知道他現時其實是否英國人。
The name of its Chairman is Andrew LEUNG and some people pointed out that he had British nationality when he was running for the position of the President . In the end he gave it up hastily but I do not know if he is actually still British or not
所以，香港工會聯合會的一些人說保安同事是僱員、要代同事出頭等，郭偉强議員等人還說反對派在"做Show"，以致被人趕走、為何不處理民生問題等。
For this reason when some people from the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions said that colleagues in charge of security were employees that they wanted to speak up for their colleagues so on so forth and Mr KWOK Wai - keung and some others even said that the opposition had been putting on a show and that was why they were being driven out . They asked us why we had not dealt with problems of public livelihood and so on
還有一種說法是，我們這些民主派議員不讓人家有機會交由法院判決，例如謝偉銓議員說，這是法治最黑暗的一天云云，但我又認為，不作證是否便等於妨礙司法程序呢？
Another contention is that we Members of the pro - democracy camp would not let people have the opportunity to refer the matter to the Court for ruling . For example Mr Tony TSE said that this was the darkest day for the rule of law so on so forth . However I wonder whether not giving evidence is equal to obstructing the course of justice
如果真是這樣，便已經完全無須討論《立法會條例》第71條，因為在所有情況下也可以提出同一理由，說不讓人作證便是妨礙司法公正。
If it is there is no need to discuss section 71 of the Legislative Council Ordinance at all because the same reason can be cited in all situations by claiming that not letting people give evidence is perverting the course of justice
第71條便是今天最核心的問題。
Section 71 is the core of the present problem
讓我逐字唸出來，以免說錯："如未經立法會特別許可，任何議員或立法會人員，以及受僱在立法會或任何委員會會議席上錄取會議紀要或保存證據紀錄的人，不得就上述會議紀要或證據紀錄的內容、或就提交立法會或任何委員會的文件內容、或就立法會或任何委員會所進行的會議程序或訊問......在其他地方作證。
Let me read it out word by word to avoid making any mistake No member or officer of the Council and no person employed to take minutes or keep any record of evidence before the Council or a committee shall give evidence elsewhere in respect of the contents of such minutes or record of evidence or of the contents of any document laid before the Council or committee as the case may be or in respect of any proceedings or examination held before the Council or committee without the special leave of the Council
我重申今次取證是不當地介入議會。
I reiterate that the gathering of evidence this time round is inappropriate intervention with the legislature
在立法會發表言論應該受到保護，《條例》的精神是保護立法會議員能夠暢所欲言，亦可以表達意見，而不是像那天一開始般，在大家表達意見時，主席說要把議員趕離場，便立即做。
The expression of views in the Legislative Council should be protected and the spirit of PP Ordinance is to protect Legislative Council Members so that they can speak freely and express their views instead of having the President say that he wants to drive Members out when Members are expressing their views as he did at the very beginning on that day and his words were put into action immediately
很多案例反映在立法會發表的言論不應該隨意提交法院，被追究及質疑。
Many court cases show that the views expressed in the Legislative Council should not be referred to the Court investigated and queried at will
議員是行使在議會內發言的權利。
Members are exercising their right of expression in the legislature
我又可以舉出另一宗案例。
I can also give another example
在2016年12月1日，律政司準備入稟取消梁國雄他們喜歡稱他為"前"議員的議員資格，立法會亦曾辯論有關議案。
On 1 December 2016 DoJ initiated a lawsuit to disqualify a Member Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung―they like to call him former Member―and the Legislative Council also debated the relevant motion
好了，現時梁國雄被他們趕離立法會了，但在最近數年可以看到，從取消議員資格、檢控梁國雄，以至很多情況看來，你不能說律政司的行為本身就等於法治。
All right Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung has been expelled by them from the Legislative Council but it can be seen that in recent years from the disqualification of Members through bringing a lawsuit against Mr LEUNG Kwok - hung to many other instances the actions taken by DoJ cannot be equated with the rule of law
律政司本身就是政權利用法權的工具，它本身就是政治檢控的工具，亦透過不同方式介入立法會的運作。
DoJ is a tool with legal power used by the regime and itself is a tool for political prosecution that also interfered with the operation of the Legislative Council in various ways
我的觀點認為香港必須有三權分立。
In my view it is a must to have the separation of powers in Hong Kong
梁議員在2018年5月14日曾經煞有介事地向大家作出預告，說如果有職員受傷，就會報案處理，亦提醒議員有機會引用第19b條控告議員。
On 14 May 2018 Mr LEUNG gave Members advance notice in a solemn manner telling them that in the event of any staff member suffering any injury a report would be made to the police and Members were reminded of the likelihood that section 19b would be invoked to lay charges against them
然後，主席在當天主持會議時，亦作出了很多極富爭議性的裁決，例如"劃線"、限時和裁決準則不一等。
Subsequently while presiding over the meeting on that day the President also made many highly controversial rulings for example drawing lines imposing time limits inconsistent rulings and so on
這些問題正是議員覺得主席的裁決不公道，繼而要走出來提出反對的原因。
These problems were precisely the reasons why Members considered the rulings of the President unfair and wanted to come out to voice their opposition
他的權力慾達到極至，即使少數反對聲音也無法接納，這就是我們今天面對的立法會，亦威脅議員進行議事工作的權利。
He has absolute lust for power and cannot accept even a minority of opposition voices . This is the Legislative Council we are facing nowadays and Members right to discuss public affairs is in jeopardy
除了諮詢立法會秘書處及法律顧問外，亦須徵詢獨立的法律意見。
Apart from consulting the Legislative Council Secretariat and Legal Advisors independent legal advice should also be sought
我們不應如此簡單地說要把證供交給律政司司長。
We should not say simplistically that the evidence should be handed to the Secretary for Justice
如要這樣做，議會應該考慮究竟是提供甚麼證據。
If we have to do so the legislature should consider what kind of evidence has to be provided
很多東西也是公開的，立法會會議是直播的，不同電視台也有當天的相關片段，究竟律政司想要甚麼證據呢？
A lot of things are now publicly available and Legislative Council meetings are broadcast live . Various television stations also have the relevant video footages of the day in question . What evidence does the Department of Justice actually want?
可是，請立法會議員想一想：是否有一些"太上皇"、在西環的"太上皇"不斷地干犯立法會的尊嚴呢？
However I ask Legislative Council Members to consider this Are there some overlords some overlords in Western District who keep violating the dignity of the Legislative Council?
教育其中一個很重要的目的是凝聚社會。
One of the very important objectives of education is to promote social solidarity
因此，沒有一個國家會使用公帑在公立學校推行其他國家的課程或國際課程。
It proves the important power of education in fostering solidarity . Hence no country would spend public money on promoting the curricula of other countries or international programmes in government - run schools
李慧琼議員剛才提到英國學校也有教授IB課程，我相信可能是私立學校，因為學生須向IB課程的主辦機構支付另一筆費用，所以我不相信英國公立學校會教授IB課程。
Just now Ms Starry LEE said that schools in the United Kingdom also teach IB courses . I believe those courses are taught in private schools because students have to pay the operator of IB courses an extra sum of money and that is why I do not believe public schools in the United Kingdom would teach IB courses
數月前，我曾到訪英國，並與英國教育部負責人面談，我了解到有當地學生自行報讀IB課程和參加考試，但當地公立學校沒有教授IB課程。
I visited the United Kingdom a few months ago and talked to someone in charge of education from the Department for Education . I learned that some students there also enrolled in IB courses and sat for the relevant examinations on their own but the public schools there did not teach IB courses
毛孟靜議員剛才提到，操練中英文很辛苦，這個問題確實存在，但該如何處理這個問題？
Ms Claudia MO has mentioned that it is very hard work to be drilled in Chinese and English . There is indeed such a problem . How do we deal with it?
我們必須積極面對這個問題，改變本地課程及本地學校。
We must face up to this problem and give an overhaul to the local curriculum and local schools
我覺得教育局、議員或教育界也責無旁貸，必須正視這個問題。
To me the Education Bureau Members and the education sector are duty bound to look squarely into this problem
這是我最大的質疑。
That is my biggest question
我不介意個別人士如 何選擇，但既然官員選擇這種教育方式，我希望他們也為香港市民提供這種教育方式。
I do not mind how individual persons make their choice but if officials choose a certain type of education I hope that they will make available that type of education to all Hong Kong people as well