Borrison/hk-legicost huggingface dataset:
《專業會計師條例》第421f條禁止任何人"虛假地採用或使用意味其合資格註冊為會計師或合資格執業為執業會計師的姓名或名稱、英文縮寫、名銜、加銜或稱謂"。
Section 421f of the Ordinance prohibits any person from falsely taking or using any name initials title addition or description implying that he is qualified to be registered as a certified public accountant or to practice as a certified public accountant
第421hi條則禁止使用"任何書面文字、英文縮寫或簡稱，而其意圖是致使任何人相信或可合理地致使任何人相信使用該等文字、英文縮寫或簡稱的人為會計師"。
Section 421hi prohibits the use of any written words initials or abbreviations of words intended to cause or which may reasonably cause any person to believe that the person using the same is a certified public accountant
因此，按照現行法例的規定，如果明知而使用一些字眼或名稱，而其意圖是致使其他人受誤導，相信他擁有專業資格或客觀上達致這個效果，即屬犯法。
Therefore in accordance with the provisions of the existing legislation it is an offence to knowingly use certain terms or descriptions intended to mislead other people into believing that he has the professional qualifications or to objectively achieve this effect
因此，如果將限制範圍擴大至並非只針對"專業會計"等數個字眼，是否仍不足夠？
In that case is it still insufficient to extend the scope of the restriction to include not only those few terms relating to professional accounting?
是否有必要在法例加入更多限制用詞？
Is it necessary to include more restricted descriptions in the legislation?
工作跟專業資格是兩碼子事，所以我希望大家能夠弄清這件事的利弊。
Work and professional qualification are two different things so I hope that Members can weigh the pros and cons of this proposal
如果沒有，我現在請梁繼昌議員答辯。
If no I now call upon Mr Kenneth LEUNG to reply
多謝法案委員會主席莫乃光議員，亦感謝法案委員會的各位成員。
I would like to thank the Chairman of the Bills Committee Mr Charles Peter MOK and all members of the Bills Committee
剛才各位同事的發言，我可以逐一回應。
As for the remarks made by our Honourable colleagues just now I will respond to them one by one
張國鈞議員和潘兆平議員剛才均引用了香港會計人員總會提交的意見書中的一些論點。
Both Mr CHEUNG Kwok - kwan and Mr POON Siu - ping have cited some of the arguments put forward by the Hong Kong Accounting Professionals Association HKAPA in its submission
簿記、會計、稅務和顧問工作依然可以全面進行，亦不會受《條例草案》的修訂影響。
Bookkeeping accounting taxation and consultancy work can still be carried out in a comprehensive way and will not be affected by the amendments proposed in the Bill
此外，總會指出，很多海外會計組織與香港會計師公會同屬國際會計師聯合會的成員。
In addition HKAPA pointed out that many institutes of accountants outside Hong Kong are also members of the International Federation of Accountants as in the case of the Hong Kong Institute of Certified Public Accountants
因此，我相信即使現時卡片上已印有可能抵觸有關修訂的名稱或稱謂也不必擔心，因為還要視乎意圖這因素。
Therefore I believe even if the name or description currently printed on a persons name card has possibly breached the proposed amendments there is no need to worry because the element of intention must also be taken into consideration
此外，我還想提出一個論點。
Furthermore I would like to put forward another argument
大家可以參看有關同屬專業界別的專業服務提供者的法例，根據香港法例《法律執業者條例》第45及46條，這兩項條文簡要地指出，任何沒有執業資格的人，不 得在法律程序中以律師身份行事，否則即屬犯罪，可處罰款50萬元及監禁兩年。
Members may refer to the legislation relating to professional service providers from other professional sectors . Sections 45 and 46 of the Legal Practitioners Ordinance Cap . 159 briefly state that any person who does not have the professional qualification is not allowed to act as a solicitor in a proceeding; otherwise it is an offence and shall be liable to a fine of 500,000 and imprisonment for two years
大家可以參看《法律執業者條例》，當中規定"任何不合資格人士故意冒充律師，或採用或使用任何名字、名銜、加稱或說明以默示他是合資格或獲法律承認為合資格以律師身分行事者，即屬犯罪......可處罰款$500,000。
Members may refer to the Legal Practitioners Ordinance which states that any unqualified person who wilfully pretends to be or takes or uses any name title addition or description implying that he is qualified or recognized by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable a fine of 500,000
" 我曾徵詢香港律師會及身旁的郭榮鏗議員的意見，任何人不是律師而在其卡片上表明可以"提供專業法律服務"，已經觸犯《法律執業者條例》第46條。
I have consulted The Law Society of Hong Kong and Mr Dennis KWOK who is sitting next to me . Any person who is not a solicitor but states on his name card that he can provide professional legal services has violated section 46 of the Legal Practitioners Ordinance
為何專業法律獲《法律執業者條例》保障，但專業會計卻未獲《專業會計師條例》保障？
Why is professional legal services protected under the Legal Practitioners Ordinance but professional accounting is not protected under the Ordinance?
我想請同事向我解釋為何會有這分別。
I would like to invite colleagues to explain such a difference to me
我很感謝謝偉銓議員提出了很多很好的意見。
I am very grateful that Mr Tony TSE has given a lot of good advice
我提出的其中一項修訂的目的，是將《條例草案》的生效日期延遲至2022年1月1日。
One of my amendments seeks to defer the commencement date of the Bill to 1 January 2022
大家都知道，很多中小型服務提供者都因新冠肺炎而生意一落千丈。
As we all know many small and medium - sized service providers have suffered a plunge in business as a result of the novel coronavirus pneumonia
我可以向法案委員會委員或在座同事保證，如果在實施《條例草案》後，在執行方面有任何不清楚之處或問題，我會如果我仍然擔任議員或敦促我的繼任人立刻檢視《條例草案》的修訂是否可行或合理。
I can assure members of the Bills Committee or colleagues present at the meeting that if after the implementation of the Bill there is any ambiguity or problem I will―if I am still a Member―or urge my successor to immediately examine the feasibility or reasonableness of the amendments to the Bill
我當然知道今天很多議員都十分忍耐，讓我有機會二讀《條例草案》。
I am well aware that many Members have been very patient today and allowed me to proceed to the Second Reading of the Bill
此外，我亦沒有忘記謝偉銓議員向我提出了一個問題，就是有何方法可以讓工作時間非常長的會計師，享有工作及生活上的平衡。
Besides I have not forgotten that Mr Tony TSE has put a question to me on what can be done to enable accountants who work very long hours to enjoy work - life balance
其實，在過去兩三年，我已不斷敦促政府及業界朋友盡量利用人工智能，協助處理執業或顧問方面的工作。
In fact over the past two or three years I have repeatedly urged the Government and members of the industry to make the best use of artificial intelligence AI to help with their professional practice or consultancy work
利用人工智能及大數據不但可以大大縮短工作時間，亦可以大大提高工作的準繩度。
The use of AI and big data will not only greatly reduce the working time but will also significantly enhance the accuracy of work
我知道現今的政治環境很繃緊，無論是在國際層面、香港層面，甚至議會層面，大家的矛盾及分歧均非常嚴重。
I know that the political environment is now very tense . There are serious differences and disputes in the international community in Hong Kong and even in the legislature
不過，我希望各位同 事在這裏能夠以一種客觀、實事求是及專業的態度，審視這項《條例草案》。
However I hope Honourable colleagues will look at the Bill in an objective realistic and professional manner
我希望各位同事支持《條例草案》恢復二讀，因為我合共花了大約3年時間進行各項諮詢，所以希望各位支持。
I hope that Honourable colleagues will support the resumption of the Second Reading of the Bill as I have spent a total of about three years to conduct various consultation activities . Therefore I wish to solicit Members support
陳志全議員要求點算法定人數。
Mr CHAN Chi - chuen requested a headcount
正因如此，我原則上支持梁繼昌議員提出的《2018年專業會計師條例草案》，規範非註冊會計師或事務所使用"專業會計"、"註冊會計"、"認可會計"或"執業會計"的稱謂，從而希望打擊一些人用"會計"的身份冒充專業，欺騙市民作出不法的行為。
That is why I support in principle the Professional Accountants Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill moved by Mr Kenneth LEUNG to regulate the use of the descriptions professional accounting registered accounting certified public accounting and certified accounting by individuals or firms not registered with the Hong Kong Institute of Certified Public Accountants HKICPA with a view to combating the unlawful act of those who uses the accounting status to disguise as professionals to deceive members of the public
不過，我們擔心一旦通過《條例草案》，會否出現"殺錯良民"的情況？
However I am worried that some people may be inadvertently caught by the law once the Bill is passed
不少人質疑禁止非認可人士或公司使用"專業會計"一詞，是否過於寬闊，因為有關字眼並非單純針對專業的名銜或稱謂，而是針對更廣泛的行為服務、工作以至整個廣義的會計行業。
Many people have doubted if the term professional accounting 專業會計 being prohibited from use by non - certified persons or companies is too broad in its meaning . This term does not specifically refer to the title or description of a profession but also refers to in a broad sense services practices and even the entire accounting profession
無論如何，有關問題必須正視，特別是鑒於受到疫情及全球經濟衰退的影響，最新公布的失業率現已高達5.2%，創下10年新高。
In any event we must address the problems squarely especially under the impact of the epidemic and global economic downturn the most recently announced unemployment rate is as high as 5.2 % hitting a new record high in 10 years
在我今天發言前，很多相關團體和人士曾向我們表達意見，而他們提出的一些憂慮，我認為值得今天在會議廳讓大家知道。
Before I speak today many interested groups and people have relayed their views to us . I think I should voice out some of their concerns in this Chamber today
當中來自香港會計人員總會的意見，我覺得值得大家參詳。
I also think that we should consider in detail the views expressed by the Hong Kong Accounting Professionals Association HKAPA
如果我們通過這項法案，讓公會禁止非公會會員使用"專業會計"、"註冊會計"、"認可會計"等稱謂，其實在某程度上等同將"會計"這個名詞專利化，即是說將來只有公會會員才可以使用"會計"這個名詞，這樣是否公平呢？
If we pass this Bill and allow HKICPA to prohibit non - HKICPA members from using the descriptions such as professional accounting registered accounting certified public accounting this is tantamount to monopolizing the term accounting to a certain extent . In other words only HKICPA members can use the term accounting in the future . Is this fair?
大家也知道，這些名詞是不能夠專利化的，而我尋求保護的只是"專業會計"的稱謂。
As we all know these terms cannot be monopolized and I merely seek to protect the description professional accounting
在一宗幾乎可以成功檢控的個案中，所使用的是"註冊會計"，而"註冊會計"一詞在現行法例下並未被包括在內，所以我才會在我提出的修訂中加入"註冊會計"。
In a case where prosecution was almost successful the term used was 註冊會計 which is not included in the existing legislation . This is why I have included 註冊會計 in my proposed amendment
我是次發言主要是就陳凱欣議員提出，延展和預防及控制疾病相關的附屬法例的修訂期限，表達我們的不同意見，反對是項安排。
I am speaking mainly on the proposal put forward by Ms CHAN Hoi - yan to extend the period for amending the subsidiary legislation concerning the prevention and control of disease and would like to express our views against the arrangement
就整項限聚令，市民大眾明白在疫情下有增加社交距離的需要，故有此要求。
With regard to the social gathering restrictions members of the general public understand that there is a need to maintain social distance during the epidemic and this is the reason why the relevant requirements were put in place at the outset
但是，市民亦清楚看到在限聚令下，政府的執法單位即警隊的所為。
However members of the public have also witnessed clearly what the law enforcement agency of the Government has done to enforce the restrictions
在過去一段時間，除警隊會發出告票外，本來屬執法部門的食物環境衞生署根本沒有作出任何票控。
Over the past period of time apart from the fixed penalty tickets issued by the Police Force not a single penalty ticket has ever been issued by the Food and Environmental Hygiene Department which is supposed to be the department enforcing the restrictions
從這個角度，可見限聚令已變成警方執法過程中的另一公權力，而這種公權力的運用已超越限聚令所訂，為抗疫而展開的工作。
From this perspective it can be seen that the social gathering restrictions have become another means of public power exercised by the Police during law enforcement and such a use of public power has already gone beyond the scope of work required for fighting the epidemic under the social gathering restrictions
所以，陳凱欣議員提出延展修訂期限的建議，本來是要就限聚令的一些執法細節再作商討，但市民大眾現時已顯然從另一角度出發，質疑限聚令的存在是協助進行抗疫工作，還是用作打壓言論自由、集會自由的工具？
Therefore although the proposal put forward by Ms CHAN Hoi - yan to extend the scrutiny period seeks originally to have further discussions on certain enforcement details of the social gathering restrictions the general public have obviously turned to consider the matter from another perspective and query whether the restrictions were imposed to help the fight against the epidemic or provide a tool to suppress the freedom of speech and of assembly?
因為今時今日的限聚令已經變質，已經不是以防疫作為目的，而是政府用作打壓市民大眾集會自由的工具。
This is because the restrictions are now no longer used to achieve anti - epidemic purposes but as a tool employed by the Government to suppress the freedom of assembly enjoyed by the general public
難道在限聚令之下沒有其他方法，既能達到抗疫目的，亦能繼續保障公眾集會和言論自由、表達自由嗎？
Is there no other way under the social gathering restrictions to achieve anti - epidemic purposes while at the same time to continue to safeguard the freedom of assembly of speech and of expression enjoyed by the general public?
這顯然是由於警方選擇性執法所致。
This is obviously a result of selective law enforcement on the part of the Police
為甚麼仍然要以此手段作出限制？
Why should restrictions be imposed by using such means?
這顯然是政治目的蓋過抗疫需要，令市民失去行使言論自由、表達自由的應有基礎。
Political purposes have obviously overridden the need to fight the epidemic thus depriving the citizens of the right to exercise their freedom of speech and of expression
我想舉出另一項數字作補充：在限聚令之下，所發出的547張告票全部來自警隊，這是否合乎市民大眾的期望？
I would like to add a point here by citing another figure as follows The issuance of all 547 fixed penalty tickets under the social gathering restrictions were results of enforcement actions by the Police Force and can this live up to the expectation of the general public?
甚至很多建制派的業界代表也表示，在疫情下市道很差，生意難做，這情況已覆蓋整體社會不同範疇、不同經營者。
As pointed out by many trade representatives from the pro - establishment camp the market situation during the epidemic is so poor that business has been made very difficult and this has happened to many different sectors and business operators in our society
但是，限聚令對業界造成的影響是否如此簡單，透過某些安排便可解決得到？
However is the impact of the social gathering restrictions on different trades and industries so simple that it can be addressed by adopting certain arrangements?
還是要徹底讓限聚令按照防疫需要而設，才能令大家感到滿意？
Or should the restrictions be imposed purely for the need to carry out anti - epidemic work in order to satisfy everyone in society?
否則，在限聚令下，我們看到的是一種可能令邵家輝議員極感不滿的現象，就是很多屬黃色經濟圈的食肆出現輪候人龍，但某些個別食肆卻門庭冷落沒有生意。
Otherwise the imposition of such restrictions will lead to the following phenomenon which may make Mr SHIU Ka - fai extremely angry while long queues are seen outside many catering outlets of the yellow economic circle some eateries are deserted and have no business at all
這證明了一點，對於香港市民、香港社會，當局越是打壓和箝制，人們越是會以自己的方式表達不滿，選擇"黃店"進行消費可能是其中一種方法。
This can only prove that for the people and community of Hong Kong the more suppression and control measures are adopted the more our people will try to express their dissatisfaction in their own way and choosing to patronize the yellow shops may perhaps be one of the options
但是，警方在限聚令的執法過程中，竟然連市民大眾表達不滿選擇光顧"黃店"也不放過。
However during the enforcement of the social gathering restrictions the Police have gone so far as to make things difficult for those who have chosen to express their dissatisfaction by patronizing the yellow shops
根據報道，有關部門往往會在這些食肆門庭若市時到場展開滋擾性的執法工作，試問這做法對限聚令的抗疫功能有何作用和好處？
It was reported that the relevant departments would often go to take law enforcement actions and create a nuisance at these catering outlets when they were crowded with customers and I wonder what benefits can this bring to the anti - epidemic effect of the social gathering restrictions
現時疫情已經放緩，政府會安排讓市民恢復進行宗教集會、復課，但依然不許展開遊行集會活動。
As the epidemic has begun to ease now the Government will make arrangements for the resumption of religious gatherings and classes but the holding of public processions and assemblies will still not be allowed
這種差別對待，連香港醫學會傳染病顧問委員會主席梁子超也在電台節目上指出，從公共衞生的角度而言，措施應同步放寬或收緊。
With regard to such a differential treatment even Dr LEUNG Chi - chiu Chairman of the Advisory Committee on Communicable Diseases of the Hong Kong Medical Association has pointed out in a radio programme that from the perspective of public health such measures should be relaxed or tightened concurrently
所以，他也自覺才疏學淺，完全不能理解政府的政策何以會如此的不一致。
He therefore said that he was being not smart enough to fully understand why the policies adopted by the Government can be so inconsistent
如果他曾幹出其他破壞行為，顯然可以其他法規作出檢控，但警方卻只引用限聚令作出票控。
If he had committed other acts of vandalism the Police could have initiated prosecution against him under other legislation but he was only issued fixed penalty tickets under the social gathering restrictions
因此，我今天在此反對延展限聚令修訂期限的主因，是因為這做法只能讓我們討論限聚令的一些細節、內容。
Therefore the main reason for opposing the proposal to extend the scrutiny period of the social gathering restrictions here today is that the extension can only enable us to discuss certain details and contents of the restrictions
如大家同意我們的觀點，認為限聚令已不合時宜，因為市民經過這半年經驗和知識的洗禮，已懂得如何面對疫情，自我保持社交距離，那麼，若要令各行各業恢復正常運作，其實又要重回基本，不要意圖透過法例鎮壓整個社會，反而要清楚告訴香港人，怎樣做才能令防疫抗疫工作得到最佳效果。
If fellow Members agree with my viewpoint and consider that the social gathering restrictions are outdated because with the experience and knowledge gathered in the past six months people actually know very well how they should tackle the epidemic situation and maintain social distancing we should then go back to the basics in order to restore normal operation of all trades and industries . Instead of trying to suppress the entire community through the enactment of legislation we should clearly tell the people of Hong Kong what should be done to achieve the best results in preventing and fighting the epidemic
此外，就當前形勢、各行各業所面對的影響而言，相信很多業界代表均明確地認為不應在現時的狀況下繼續實施限聚令，因為社會已建立強烈的自我意識，展開種種防疫工作。
Moreover as reflected from the current situation and the impact on various trades and industries I believe that many trade representatives are of the clear opinion that the social gathering restrictions should not be allowed to remain in force under the present situation because a strong self - awareness has already been created in society for all sorts of epidemic prevention work
限聚令只會成為影響各行各業、市民生活或營商的措施，而我們更不能接受限聚令變成警隊鎮壓市民，令市民不能自由表達意見的工具。
The social gathering restrictions will only become measures that affect the operation of different trades and industries the daily life of common people or business operations in Hong Kong . It is even more unacceptable to us that the restrictions have become a tool used by the Police to suppress the people and prevent them from expressing their views freely
就着這個部分，我覺得與整個道路網絡的定位和角色有否改變相當有關係。
In this connection I hold that a related discussion is whether the position and role of the entire road network has changed
在這項附屬法例的審議過程中，亦訂立了一個新方向，就是不會再就這方案展開進一步研究。
In the scrutiny of the subsidiary legislation the Subcommittee has laid down a new direction and that is this option will not be further explored
這是否意味特區政府最終會同意基於私隱關係，不再搞太多這類自動收費系統監察車輛的去向，反而會認真地考慮放棄隧道收費呢？
Does it mean that the SAR Government finally agrees to respect privacy and abandon this kind of automatic fare collection systems to monitor the whereabouts of vehicles and that it will seriously consider waiving the tunnel tolls?
從這個角度來看，我們今天應該開始討論這8條收費隧道的最新安排，即會否考慮亦採取與屯門赤鱲角隧道、將軍澳藍田隧道、青嶼幹線及將軍澳隧道同樣的豁免收費安排，這是第一點。
If we look from this perspective we should start discussing the latest arrangements of these eight toll - tunnels today . In other words we should consider whether the toll - free arrangements for TM - CLKT TKO - LTT the Lantau Link and Tseung Kwan O Tunnel should also be adopted for these tunnels . This is the first point
鄭泳舜議員，你提出規程問題，指有議員在座位上叫喊是違反《議事規則》。
Mr Vincent CHENG you have raised a point of order submitting that some Member is shouting in whose seat in contravention of RoP
我多次指出，不同陣營的議員均有在另一位議員發言時在座位上叫喊。
As I have repeatedly pointed out Members belonging to different political camps have shouted in their seats while another Member is speaking
一如既往，我提醒所有陣營的議員不要在座位上打斷其他議員的發言，並須保持肅靜。
As always I remind Members from all political camps not to speak in their seats to the effect of interrupting other Members speeches and that they must keep quiet
主席，我重申，我反對延展。
President I reiterate my objection to extending the period for amending the relevant subsidiary legislation
我還有一個反對的理由，就是民主黨的黨友許智峯議員獲大會主席梁君彥批准，就《預防及控制疾病規例》提出一項修訂，簡單而言，就是廢除限聚令。
There is another reason for my objection . My fellow member of the Democratic Party Mr HUI Chi - fung has proposed an amendment to the Prevention and Control of Disease Regulation which has been approved by President Andrew LEUNG . Simply put his amendment aims to seek a revocation of the social gathering restrictions
限聚令的原意未必差，因為在疫情的高峰期，保持社交距離真的有助減少疫症傳播的機會。
The original intent of these restrictions is not necessarily bad because at the peak of the epidemic outbreak social distancing can really help reduce the chance of spreading the disease
以往有"六四"、"七一"，現在還有"六一二"，一直數下去，便是自6月9日以後的所有重大日子，政府定會就這些日子作出政治考慮，因此我要提出反對。
In the past there were the 4 June incident and 1 July incident and now there is also the 12 June incident . If we go on with the list all the red - letter days since 9 June 2019 will be included . Given that the Government will certainly have political considerations regarding these days I must raise my objection
當然，據我們觀察所得，林鄭月娥及相關官員均是口不對心，在執法上亦有兩套標準。
Of course according to our observation Carrie LAM and the officials concerned have a hidden agenda while double standards are adopted for law enforcement
如此明顯的政治動機，我們怎能不提出反對？
Given the Governments obvious political motive how can we not raise our objection?
我們的擔心結果成為了事實，看到警方如何濫用《預防及控制疾病條例》，純粹是為了拘捕、驅散示威者。
Our worry has finally become a fact as we can see how the Police have abused the Prevention and Control of Disease Ordinance Cap . 599 purely for the sake of arresting and dispersing protesters
如果我們可以支持綠色債券，又可以支持不同的中資企業，為何不可以支持"黃色經濟圈"？
If we can support green bonds and can also support different China - owned enterprises why can we not support the yellow economic circle?
我覺得政府是刻意安排限聚令的實施期限超越6月4日，令到"六四"集會無法舉行。
In my view the Government has deliberately arranged the enforcement period of social gathering restrictions to cover 4 June so that the 4 June vigil cannot be held
在我們的眼中，警方是完全濫用限聚令。
In our eyes the Police have totally abused the social gathering restrictions
《條例》下的有關規例是否真的做到剛才所說防止人群聚集的抗疫效果呢？
Can this Regulation under the Ordinance really achieve the just mentioned anti - epidemic effect of preventing group gatherings?
陳肇始局長不知道警方如何執法，這才是最糟糕的。
Secretary Prof Sophia CHAN does not know how the Police enforce the law which is the worst of all
如果是這樣，按照警方的道理，整個商場內只可以有8人，因為他們的共同目的是逛商場。
If this is the case and according to the rationale of the Police there cannot be more than eight people in a shopping mall because their common purpose is shopping in the shopping mall
3人可以"鬥地主"遊戲，兩人可以猜"包、剪、揼"，一樣可以賭錢，對嗎？
Three people can play the game of battling the landlord while two people can play rock - paper - scissors
我想問何君堯議員，他有否在會議上說民主派"cheap"？
I would like to ask Dr Junius HO whether he has described the democratic camp as cheap at the meeting
陳志全議員，這不是規程問題，請你停止發言。
Mr CHAN Chi - chuen this is not a point of order . Please stop speaking
許智峯議員，你是否指我"扮主席"？
Mr HUI Chi - fung have you referred to me as the phoney Chair?
我現在要求你裁決。
Now I ask you for a ruling
請你先直接回應我。
Please answer me directly first
許智峯議員，其實你昨天已經多次藉規程問題作出表態......
I have clearly pointed out Mr HUI Chi - fung as a matter of fact you had already shown your stance multiple times yesterday by means of points of order
請你收回你剛才的言論。
Please withdraw the remarks that you have just made
許智峯議員，你是否願意收回？
Mr HUI Chi - fung are you willing to withdraw it?
許智峯議員，你有甚麼規程問題？
Mr HUI Chi - fung what is your point of order?
請各位議員在席上保持肅靜。
Members please keep quiet
現時每天最少有數百人從境外回港，香港仍有再度爆發疫症的一定風險。
Each day at least several hundred people return to Hong Kong from overseas and the territory is still exposed to certain risk of another wave of epidemic outbreak
其實，政府已多次承認，之前作出限制，禁止多於4人或現時8人的聚集，以及食肆每張桌子之間要有1.5米距離的做法，其實完全沒有科學根據。
As a matter of fact the Government has repeatedly admitted that there was indeed no scientific basis at all for the previous or present restrictions on prohibiting group gatherings of more than four or eight people and those concerning the maintenance of a distance of 1.5 m between dining tables in catering outlets
香港醫學會傳染病顧問委員會主席梁子超醫生表示，當政府重開體育設施及豁免宗教場所後，多個室內環境將有多於8人聚集，這與維持限聚令的安排並不一致。
As opined by Dr LEUNG Chi - chiu Chairman of the Advisory Committee on Communicable Diseases of the Hong Kong Medical Association after the Government has reopened its sports facilities and granted exemption to religious venues group gatherings of more than eight people will take place in many indoor premises and this will not be consistent with the arrangements adopted for imposing the social gathering restrictions
他甚至指出，若從公共衞生角度考慮，措施應同步放寬或收緊，並直言也許自己才疏學淺，所以不明白政府的限聚令措施為何會出現不一致，令人感到它在施政上自相矛盾。
He has pointed out that measures in this respect should be relaxed or tightened concurrently from the perspective of public health and has even frankly commented that perhaps he is not smart enough to understand the inconsistency in the Governments social gathering restrictions which has given people the impression that its implementation of policies is self - contradictory
這種不一致或自相矛盾，也是我質疑限聚令的原因。
Such inconsistency or self - contradictions are also the reasons why I have query about the imposition of the restrictions