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"雖然這樣，在這20年裏，立法會在極嚴謹的情況下，仍然數度修訂了《議事規則》。
That said over the past two decades the Legislative Council has nevertheless amended the RoP a few times in some very rigorous circumstances
因此，儘管民主派同事被激進的民主派批評，我們仍然通過這項安排。
Therefore despite criticisms from fellow Members from the progressive democratic camp we pro - democracy Members still endorsed the arrangement
建制派、保皇黨議員必須明白，規則改變後，便會一直沿用下去。
The pro - establishment royalist Members must understand that the Rules once changed will be in place afterward
中國有一句名言："狡兔死，走狗烹"，謝偉俊議員作為"走狗"的一部分，他又怎可能避免在將來被中央政府唾棄呢？
As a Chinese proverb goes after the hares are killed the running dogs will be cooked . Being one of the running dogs in the group how can Mr Paul TSE escape the fate that he will one day be discarded by the Central Government at last?
我可以忍受一次、兩次，但我不能忍受第三次。
I can tolerate this for the first time the second time but not the third time
主席，我說得很清楚，我只是在引述一句中國的成語："狡兔死，走狗烹"。
President I have made myself clear . I have merely quoted a Chinese proverb which reads after the hares are killed the running dogs will be cooked
我也承認，我說他作為"走狗"的一部分，他當然有"走狗"應有的一些身體器官。
I do admit saying that he is one of the running dogs in the group so of course he should have the body parts of a running dog
任何狗隻也自然會有狗隻身上應有的器官。
Any dog will naturally have the body parts of a dog
主席，我已翻看錄像。
President I have reviewed the video records
我覺得這個做法是不妥當的，所以我收回"謝偉俊議員"這3個字，以便令我整個論述變得更清楚。
I believe this is inappropriate . Therefore I withdraw the three words Mr Paul TSE as so to make my overall argument clear
我只是想解說"狡兔死，走狗烹"的過程。
I only intended to explain the process of how the running dogs will be cooked when all the hares are dead
剛才說到《議事規則》的修訂，其實大家一定要明白，《議事規則》是用來協助議會有效運作的。
I was referring to the amendments to RoP . In fact Members must understand that RoP serve to facilitate the Councils effective operation
大家不應該有自我矮化的傾向，削弱我們一貫監察政府的功能。
We should not be inclined to undermine our own power and weaken our long - held function to monitor the Government
我們更不能接受的，就是將它變為壓制議會內少數派的工具。
It is even more unacceptable that they turn the RoP into a tool to suppress the minorities in the Council
這是完全不合邏輯，亦不合常規的。
This is totally illogical and unusual
主席，這次建制派議員提出修訂《議事規則》之舉，並非由單獨一人或一小撮人發起，而是經由38名立法會議員作出的集體決定。
President the current exercise of amending the Rules of Procedure RoP initiated by the pro - establishment camp is based on the collective decision made by 38 Members of this Council instead of one single person or a handful of people only
最初，我與陳克勤議員以該委員會的委員身份，代表建制派議員於議事規則委員會提交《議事規則》的修訂建議。
Initially it was me and Mr CHAN Hak - kan who as its members submitted to the Committee on Rules of Procedure the proposed amendments to the RoP on behalf of the pro - establishment Members
我們在所提交的文件中指出，是次修訂的目的是為了保障立法會及其轄下各委員會能暢順處理事務，並維護立法會的尊嚴及誠信。
We pointed out in our submission that the purpose of amending the RoP is to ensure that the Legislative Council and its panelscommittees will be able to deal with the council business smoothly while uphold the dignity and integrity of this Council
在講解部分修訂內容前，我先行代表自由黨表達對今次修訂的看法。
Before proceeding to elaborate on the contents of the amendments I will first represent the Liberal Party to express our views concerning the current amendment exercise
自由黨對於今次由建制派提出的修訂表示支持，是因為我們相信今次的修訂，已在保障議員發言權及立法會有效履行其憲制職能之間，取得合理而適當的平衡。
The Liberal Party supports the amending motions currently moved by the pro - establishment Members as we trust that in proposing such amendments they have struck a reasonable and appropriate balance between safeguarding Members right of speech and enabling them to perform their functions effectively
我們亦相信今次作出的修訂，將有助改善立法會的運作及處理濫用程序的問題，從而令立法會重回正軌。
We also trust that the such proposed amendments will be conducive to improving the operation of this Council as well as its ability of dealing with the problem of abuse of procedure by Members thereby steering the Council to return to the right track
須知道"拉布"的手法只能拖延時間，卻無法阻止立法程序進行或移除撥款申請。
It must be borne in mind that filibustering tactics can only cause procrastination but will neither be able to prevent the Council proceedings from taking place nor remove any funding application submitted to this Council
自激進派議員於2011年把"拉布"的手法帶進本會 後，"拉布"的情況越演越烈，過去只會在財委會會議或大會上應用，現在卻幾乎所有事務委員會、法案委員會及附屬法例小組委員會也有議員利用"拉布"手段拖延會議，議會的進程已接近不受控。
Filibustering scheme was first introduced to this Council by those radical Members back then in 2011 which has since been increasingly rife with filibusters . In the past filibustering was only present at Finance Committee meetings or Council meetings but now it is applied by Members in almost all the meetings purely for the purpose of procrastination including meetings of Panels Bills Committees and Subcommittees on Subsidiary Legislation . Consequently the progress of meeting has nearly become out of control
時間便是金錢，舉例而言，我於2014-2015年度接任財委會主席，首3個月須處理上一年度遺留下來的多項撥款申請。
Time is money . For example I took over the chair of the Finance Committee in the 2014 - 2015 legislative session and had to handle numerous stand - over funding applications of the previous session during the first three months
最終，有關撥款申請均獲通過，但正因延後一年才處理有關申請，結果便多花了28億元我們香港納稅人的金錢。
All such funding applications were eventually approved but since they were dealt with after being delayed for one whole year our taxpayers have to pay an additional sum of 2.8 billion in the end
過去曾有不少團體向自由黨反映，立法會"拉布"的問題已逐漸影響香港整個社會。
Over the past quite a number of bodies relayed to the Liberal Party that the problem of filibustering in the Legislative Council has been gradually taking its toll on Hong Kongs entire community
許多法案，例如去年的《2016年醫生註冊條例草案》，便因一位立法會的醫生代表藉各種"拉布"手段而成功被拉倒，須於今年推倒重來。
A number of bills such as the Medical Registration Amendment Bill 2016 of which passage was aborted due to the various filibuster tricks employed by a Legislative Council Member representing doctors have to be tabled afresh this year
至於受財委會"拉布"影響而被拖延的工務工程亦陸續出現問題，嚴重影響參與前期規劃工程師的生計。
Besides problems associated with delay in public works projects have kept emerging as caused by filibustering during meetings of the Finance Committee thus resulting in a serious blow to the livelihood of those engineers having engaged in advance work planning
據相關業界透露，由於近年批出的新工程進度大為放緩，前期規劃的工作大為減少，嚇怕了初入行或打算入行的年輕工程師，他們紛紛轉投其他工作或是其他行業進修。
According to members of the relevant sector the amount of advance work has reduced drastically due to the slowdown in the progress of the new project works approved in recent years . This has scared off the new blood or those young engineers aspiring to enter the field who then turned to take up other jobs or simply switched to other industries and pursued further studies
由此可見，這些工程師將在未來出現接班問題，即會損害香港工程界的持續發展。
Judging from this we can foresee the succession problem of engineers in future and the sustainability of the local engineering sector will be undermined
立法會以往的工作已受到極大阻撓，積壓大量工作，許多負面影響已陸續浮現，致使經濟及民生無法及時得到改善，並已損及香港的元氣。
The work progress of the Legislative Council was greatly obstructed and there has been a huge backlog of work to do . And with the negative impacts surfaced gradually it is impossible to make timely improvements to the economy as well as peoples livelihood which has in turn harmed Hong Kongs vigour
自由黨支持這次的修訂建議，你們也許會認為我們是迫不得已，甚或忍無可忍。
People may think that the Liberal Party supports the current amendments because its members have no other choice or find the situation intolerable
我們明白家家有求，也不希望大石壓死蟹的局面。
We understand that Members have different calls to make and have no intention to steamroller anyone
然而，當"拉布"成風，議會時間不斷被浪費於響鐘及不斷重複提問上，最終受害的是香港市民。
However when filibustering has become the norm where the time of this Council has been wasted on incessant ringing of quorum bell and repetition of questions by Members it will be the Hong Kong citizens to suffer in the end
因此，我們必須取得平衡。
Therefore it is necessary to strike a balance
建制派作出多項修訂，大致可分為8個範疇。
Members of the pro - establishment camp proposed a number of amendments which can be broadly divided into eight categories
我主要講解一下清楚訂明立法會主席容許動議修正案的酌情權、理順防止濫用程序的各項程序，以及阻遏議員在立法會大會及各委員會上的不檢行為等。
My following speech mainly focuses on issues such as expressly stipulating the discretionary power exercised by the President of the Legislative Council in allowing Members to move amendments rationalizing the various procedures for the prevention of abuse of procedure and deterring Members from behaving disorderly during Council meetings and meetings of Panels and Committees
主席，眾所周知，近年有議員就《撥款條例草案》提出數以千計的修正案，成為立法會主席所須面對的一大難題。
President as we all know the fact that some Members have proposed thousands of amendments to the Appropriation Bill in recent years has become a major challenge facing the President of this Council
在作出裁決的過程中，立法會主席仍需對建議的修正案作整體審視，考慮該等修正案是否屬瑣屑無聊或無意義，更須耗費大量時間、人力及物力。
In making the ruling the President of the Legislative Council still had to conduct an overall examination of the proposed amendments to consider if those amendments were frivolous or meaningless . This had indeed cost this Council a great deal of time manpower and resources
雖然，現時《議事規則》第574d條或可應用於處理該類大量修正案的情況，但仍然有所局限，因為有某些修正案難以合理地裁定為瑣屑無聊或無意義。
Despite that the existing RoP 574d may be applied in dealing with such large number of amendments it has its own limitations because sometimes it will be difficult to decide on reasonable grounds if an amendment is frivolous or meaningless
較佳做法為確保立法會能按劃一的準則決定是否容許分別對法案及議案提出修正案。
And so it is better for this Council to decide in accordance with a set of across - the - board criteria whether amendments to a bill or motion are allowed
因此，建制派認為《議事規則》應根據主席有憲制責任確保立法會按照其作為立法機關須有秩序、有效率及公平地處理其事務的重要原則訂立條文，賦予立法會主席選擇擬議修正案的權力。
Therefore the pro - establishment camp opines that there should be provisions in the RoP made in accordance with a crucial principle that the President is under a constitutional duty to ensure the orderly efficient and fair conduct of business by the Legislative Council on the one hand and that the President should be given the power to select amendments on the other
事實上，海外立法機關議長一般都獲賦予上述選擇權。
In fact presiding officers of legislatures in overseas jurisdictions are given the above selection power
藉新增的條文，主席將能在多項旨在達到相同目的的議案或擬議修正案中，選擇最有效的修正，並發還其他不獲選的議案或擬議修正案。
By virtue of the newly added provisions the President will be able to select the most effective ones from among those motions or proposed amendments moved for the same purpose and return the unselected ones to Members
我們亦認為，由同一議員提出的兩項或以上用作修正的議案或修正案如屬類同，立法會主席或全體委員會主席應獲賦權指示就該等議案或修正案進行合併辯論及表決。
We are also of the view that the President of this Council or the Chairman in committee of the whole Council should be empowered to give directions for a joint debate on two or more amending motionsamendments similar in nature moved by the same Member and putting to vote together those amending motionsamendments
我們提出的這項修訂，是反映過往立法會主席所作裁決的實例，我們只是在條文中更清晰指出有關做法而已。
Such a proposed amendment reflects the practical examples previously set by the Presidents of this Council in their rulings and we are just seeking to expressly stipulate in the provisions the relevant procedures taken
有關理順防止濫用程序問題的各項程序方面，建制派希望處理議員濫用休會待續或是中止待續的問題。
Regarding the various procedures aiming at rationalizing the prevention of abuse of procedure the pro - establishment camp wishes to deal with the problem of Members abusing adjournment of debate or proceedings of the Council
須知道，現行《議事規則》第403條確保當一項將辯論中止待續的議案被否決後，不可在同一項辯論中再次提出另一項相同議案，但就立法會全體委員會的程序而言，《議事規則》第404條未有訂明是項安排。
We must note that Rule 403 of the existing Rules of Procedure ensures that when a motion that the debate be now adjourned has been negatived no further motion that the debate be now adjourned shall be moved during that debate but as to the proceedings of a committee of the whole Council of the Legislative Council RoP 404 does not stipulate such an arrangement
可是，以往曾有先例，全體委員會主席作出裁決，不容許一名議員在一項將委員會過程中止待續的議案遭否決後，再次提出同一項議案。
Yet there were precedents in the past where the Chairman of the committee of the whole Council ruled that some Member was not allowed to move the same motion after a motion that the proceedings of the committee of the whole Council be adjourned had been negative
雖然《議事規則》並無清楚訂明，立法會主席與部分外地議會的議事長相同，擁有不容許提出相同議案的權力。
Although it is not expressly provided for in the RoP the President of the Legislative Council has like some of the presiding officers of the parliaments in some foreign countries the power to disallow the same adjournment motions to be moved
然而，我們留意到在這些外地議會，當議事長認為拖延議案是濫用程序，便可即時把中止待續的待決議題付諸表決。
However we also notice one thing that is when the presiding officers of the parliaments in these foreign countries are of the opinion that the moving of the adjournment of proceedings is an abuse of procedure they may immediately put the question forthwith
因此，我們建議修訂《議事規則》第404條，賦權立法會主席在其認為某些拖延議案屬濫用程序，可藉不就該等議案提出待議議題或無經辯論立即提出待決議題付諸表決，以有效處理該等拖延議案。
Therefore we propose to amend RoP 404 to the effect that the where the PresidentChairman is of the opinion that the moving of a dilatory motion is an abuse of procedure he has the power of not to propose the question or to put the question forthwith without debate in order to deal effectively with dilatory motions
主席，另一項可能遭濫用的程序是《議事規則》第383條。該項條文容許議員若認為先前發言的某部分被誤解，便可再次發言。
President RoP 383 is another procedure that may be abused which provides that a Member who has spoken on a question may again be heard to explain some part of his speech which has been misunderstood
為免議員誤會可以發言多於一次，我們建議修訂有關條文，明確規定議員只應就其發言中被誤解的部分發言。
To avoid possible misunderstanding by Members who think they are allowed to speak more than once we propose to amend the rule by stating in express terms that Members can speak on the misunderstood part of whose speech only
另一個困擾議會的問題是，現時根據《議事規則》第49條提出縮短點名表決鐘聲鳴響時間的議案，很多時候也遭到濫用，有議員利用這項議案引發討論。
Another headache for this Council being the frequent abuse of motions moved under RoP 49 to shorten the duration of the ringing of division bell . Some Members attempted to manipulate the motion for provoking discussions
為節省議會的時間，建制派建議修訂《議事規則》第494條及第496條，使議案一經動議，主席可立即就有關議案提出待決議題並進行表決。
To save the Councils time pro - establishment Members propose to amend RoP 494 and RoP 496 to the effect that once such a motion is moved the PresidentChairman shall immediately proceed to put a question in respect of the motion which should then be put to a vote
就立法會及委員會會議中的秩序方面而言，建制派認為，有迫切需把《議事規則》第451條的適用範圍，由常設委員會及專責委員會擴大至涵蓋所有委員會。
Concerning the order in Council and Committee Members of the pro - establishment camp are of the view that there is an urgent need to extend the scope of application of RoP 451 covering standing committees and select committees to include all PanelsCommittees
其唯一可做的，便是命令該議員立即退席，但如不論輕重皆這處理，卻似乎於理不合。
In that case the only thing that the Chairman can do is to order that Member to withdraw immediately from the meeting . Nevertheless it seems unreasonable to treat every case by taking this same action regardless of how serious the case is
主席，根據上述闡釋，大定便明白建制派的修訂建議，已參考外地議會為解決類似問題而曾採取的一些做法。
President referring to the elaboration above Members should understand that in proposing the amendments Members of the pro - establishment camp have already drawn reference from the practices adopted by parliaments of foreign countries in addressing similar issues
事實上，本會今天仍然採用的《議事規則》，不少也是沿用英國國會以前的規則。
As a matter of fact many of the rules in the RoP still in use in this Council today are adopted from those previously used in the British Parliament
然而，英國國會的規則早已作出大量修訂，以優化議事程序及處理"拉布"。
However the rules of procedure of the British Parliament had already been drastically revamped to enhance proceedings of the Parliament and deal with filibusters
反觀我們的《議事規則》在過去只曾作出小修小補，許多條文已不合時宜。
On the contrary only minor amendments were introduced to the RoP of this Council over the years and quite a lot of the rules have become out of date
其實，建制派提出的修訂亦只屬輕微修改，應可接受。
Actually the amendments proposed by Members of the pro - establishment camp are only minor ones and should be acceptable
我們從沒期望可藉這次改動阻止泛民"拉布"，況且泛民的"拉布"手法層出不窮，實在難以完全遏止。
We never expect that the amendments proposed this time are meant to prevent filibustering by the pan - democrats . In fact it is really hard to curb thoroughly their filibuster schemes which may be implemented in many different ways
正如一些泛民議員也曾在多個場合指出，即 使建制派今次的修正案成功獲得通過，也無法完全阻止他們繼續"拉布"。
Just as some Members belonging to the pan - democratic camp have remarked on various occasions even if the amendments currently proposed by Members of the pro - establishment camp have successfully gained passage they will not be able to completely stop them from continuing to filibuster at meetings
大家必須明白到，市民對本會是絕對有要求的，就是希望立法會可以運用其憲制及法律賦予的權力，確保擬議法例及撥款申請可以經正常審議後，盡快落實和執行，並同時確保會議能有效率及有秩序地進行。
We must understand that members of the public are absolutely demanding of the Legislative Council who expect this Council to exercise its power conferred by the constitution and law to ensure expeditious implementation and enforcement of proposed legislation and funding applications that have undergone normal proceedings of deliberation . Meanwhile it should ensure effective and orderly conduct of its meetings
我們只是盡力達到市民的合理期望而已。
We are just trying our best to meet the reasonable expectations of the public after all
我剛才已酌情容許邵家臻議員在其15分鐘發言時間內響起他所謂的"警號"，但隨後卻有議員互相拋傳另一個發聲裝置。
Just now I have exercised my discretion to permit Mr SHIU Ka - chun to sound his alarm during his 15 - minuite speaking time . But soon after that Members threw around another audible device
我亦提醒議員不應在會議進行期間使用手提電話，議員應遵守會議秩序。
I wish to remind Members that they should not use mobile phones during the Council meeting and should observe the Councils order
李國麟議員，你是否想發言？
Prof Joseph LEE do you wish to speak?
如果李國麟議員想稍後才發言，我可以酌情先請盧偉國議員發言。
If Prof Joseph LEE wishes to speak later I can exercise my discretion to invite Ir Dr LO Wai - kwok to speak first
根據我的專業意見，我理解到毛孟靜議員感到有點頭暈及氣喘，需要坐下稍事休息。
According to my professional opinion I understand that Ms Claudia MO feels a bit dizzy and short of breath so she needs to sit down and rest for a while
如有需要，我可以暫停會議。
If necessary I can suspend the meeting
黃定光議員，你有甚麼規程問題？
Mr WONG Ting - kwong what is your point of order?
其實真真假假也好，我們又真是有多15分鐘時間休息，再加上計算法定人數的時間，我們便多了20分鐘的時間。
Actually no matter it is true or false we have 15 minutes extra time to repose in addition to the time on the counting of the quorum . We have 20 minutes extra time in total
我們看到的是，其實就今次修改《議事規則》的建議，建制派朋友表示，因為我們"拉布"，濫用《議事規則》，"拉布"之後令到很多事情癱瘓，政府又癱瘓，立法會又癱瘓，許多事情做不到，民不聊生，因此要修改《議事規則》。
We can see that as far as the amendments to the Rules of Procedure are concerned pro - establishment Members say that they have to amend the Rules of Procedure because many things have come to a halt the Government and the Legislative Council are paralysed a lot of goals could not be achieved and people are living in the direst of circumstances because of our filibuster and our abuse of the Rules of Procedure
我有一些疑問的。
I have doubts about it
希望各位在坐反對派及建制派的朋友高抬貴手，讓張超雄議員的議案獲得通過，即是可以使用手語，這項建議其實是很中性和是好的，希望大家都支持。
I hope all Members from the opposition camp and pro - establishment camp be magnanimous and allow the passage of Dr Fernando CHEUNGs motion . That is to allow the passage of the motion concerning the use of sign language which is a rather neutral and good proposal . I hope Members will support it
所以如果根據剛才葉劉淑儀議員或較早前廖長江議員的發言，指出修改了《議事規則》後，便可以提高會議的效率，即是不會有"拉布"，程序快捷得多。
According to the speeches of Mrs Regina IP or Mr Martin LIAO earlier the efficiency of the legislature could be improved after the Rules of Procedure were amended . That is there will be no more filibuster thus the process will be more expeditious
因為我們這一邊來說，根據你們建議所修改的《議事規則》，許多你們認為瑣屑無聊，"拉布"，亂說話，浪費時間的那些都統統縮短了。
As far as we are concerned the Rules of Procedure amended in accordance with your proposals could shorten the time of the delivery of frivolous or meaningless speeches filibuster the nonsense talking and the waste of time in your view
這與《議事規則》沒有關係的，我們要讓公眾知道，其實今次修改《議事規則》，與反"拉布"是沒有必然關係的，根本達不到目的。
It has nothing to do with the Rules of Procedure . Therefore we need to let the public know that the amendments to the Rules of Procedure this time around are not necessarily related to the opposition to filibuster . The amendments cannot achieve the objective
我看到如果我們要反"拉布"，防"拉布"，令到議會更有效率，應該去得很盡，便要改這些。
All I can see is that if we are going to curb or prevent a filibuster and to improve the efficiency of the legislature we should go to the extreme by amending these rules
怎樣看"拉布"，這是手段來的，是一個制衡政府的手段，反對惡法的手段，監察政府的手段來的。
How should we treat a filibuster? . A filibuster is an approach to exercise checks and balances on the Government to fight against draconian law and to monitor the Government
在此情況之下，其實修改《議事規則》是否有效呢？
Under this circumstance is it really effective to amend the Rules of Procedure?
是否有效用呢？
Can we achieve more effectiveness?
令到議會更有效用呢？
Can the legislature achieve more effectiveness?
就這方面，早前有議員發言時，指出我們這本"紅書仔"歷史很悠久，由港英政府留到現在，我沒有記錯已有百多年了，我聽說歷史延續下來，當然有修有補，改完之後。
In this regard some Members said earlier that this little red book has a long history . It is inherited from the former British Hong Kong Government . It is more than 100 years old if I remember correctly
沒有錯，過時是要修改，改完之後卻達不到我剛才說的目的，或是達不到我剛才說的兩個目的，甚至有所倒退。
Right we have to amend anything that is outdated . But the amendments this time around may not achieve the objective or the two objectives I have said just now . There are even setbacks
然而，整本"紅書仔"本來這本"紅書仔"是很中立放在這裏，讓代理主席，幾乎說了你老人家，不好意思，主席你，代理主席你可以翻閱這本書，按着這本書去辦事，公平公正地讓大家看到。
However the little red book―originally this little red book is put in its place disinterestedly so as to let the Deputy President I have almost mistakenly addressed you as the President―the President and the Deputy President to leaf through this book to deal with businesses by the book and to show to everyone that it is fair and equitable
這是"紅書仔"的作用，這正正是我們說的規範，規範了整個議會的運作，令大家可以很有效地使議會根據規矩辦事。
This is the function of this little red book . This is exactly the standard that we are talking about . It standardizes the operation of the whole legislature so that everyone can deal with our business in accordance with these rules
這是屬於一些我們稱為傳統智慧，或是政治智慧的事情。
This is the traditional wisdom or political wisdom as we call it
但是今次的修改，對我們來說，既達不到有效率的目的，亦破壞了效用方面，最後整本《議事規則》偏頗了，偏頗了到修改它的一方。
Nevertheless we consider that the amendments this time around cannot achieve the objective of efficiency and they undermine the effectiveness of the rules . Eventually the book of Rules of Procedure becomes partial . It is so partial that it is skewed towards those who amend it
這樣一來便出問題了，代理主席，我以呈請為例我昨天也說過由20人提高至35人，很多同事已說過，我不作解釋。
I have mentioned it yesterday . That is the amendment seeks to increase the number of Members presenting a petition to the Legislative Council from 20 to 35 . Many of my colleagues have spoken on that I will not further elaborate on that
但問題是，如果根據《議事規則》的傳統，是賦予議會權力，根據遊戲規則，我們可以為民請命。
But the question is if we follow the tradition of the Rules of Procedure we may fight for the causes of the public by exercising the power vested in us in accordance with the rules of the game . However it turns out that we are not fighting for the causes of the public because the rules of the game have been changed from 20 to 35 Members
即使3月我們幸運希望公眾人士支持選出6位民主派議員返回議會，我們一樣也做不到這件事。
Even if we are lucky enough in March―hopefully the public will support us―when pro - democracy Members take the six vacant seats of the Legislative Council we are still outnumbered and therefore unable to do that
根據兩個命題所說：反"拉布"，你無法達到；有效率，不是真的有效率，而效用卻變差，何解需要修改《議事規則》？
As far as the two propositions are concerned Your counter - filibuster tactic is not working; the alleged efficiency is not real efficiency and yet the effectiveness gets worse . Why should we amend the Rules of Procedure?
所以，代理主席，對我來說，這次是不必要的我會這樣說是遊戲也好，是動作也好，無論怎樣，也是不必要的。
For that reason Deputy President I consider the motion this time around is unnecessary . I will put it in this way No matter it is a game or a gesture in any case it is unnecessary
不過，我明白今時今日，大家劍拔弩張，我們只是求氣，並不是求財，即是我們不求和平，包括我們和你們也一樣。
Nevertheless I understand that the hostility is so intense in these days that we are taking it personally instead of taking it professionally . That is to say we are not looking for a peaceful solution . Be it you or me we are just the same
香港有一個最不好的地方，就是每5年便換一屆政府，當然施政是可以有延續性的。
The nastiest thing in Hong Kong is that a new term of Government will replace a previous term of Government once in every five years . But of course there is a continuity in the policies
但是，我們並無"政黨法"，我們在議會內亦沒有"管治黨"的出現。
Nevertheless we have not enacted any political party law and we do not have a ruling party in the legislature