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我相信，不論是政府或廣大市民皆希望身邊長者獲得更好待遇，盡力使他們的晚年生活過得更好。
I believe the Government and the general public all wish to see better treatment for our elderly people and give them a better life in their final years as far as possible
不過，香港實在地少人多，既然有長者希望在香港以外地方過其嚮往的生活，政府為何仍要諸多限制，阻礙他們呢？
But Hong Kong is honestly a tiny place with many people . As some elderly people wish to live their desired life in places outside Hong Kong why should the Government impose all sorts of restrictions and hindrance on them all the same?
本會現在成為全體委員會，審議《2018年稅務條例草案》。
Council now becomes committee of the whole Council to consider the Inland Revenue Amendment No . 2 Bill 2018
第1至4、6及7條。
Clauses 1 to 4 6 and 7
如果沒有委員想發言，我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：秘書已讀出的條文納入本條例草案。
If no Member wishes to speak I now put the question to you and that is That the clauses read out by the Clerk stand part of the Bill
現在處理有修正案的條文。
I now deal with the clause with amendment
商務及經濟發展局局長會動議講稿附錄他的修正案。
The Secretary for Commerce and Economic Development will move his amendment as set out in the Appendix to the Script
代理主席，香港是一個移民城市，很多上一代的長者皆來自中國各地。
Deputy President Hong Kong is a migrant city . Many elderly people of the previous generation came from various places of China
多位反對派議員剛才反對跨境安老，認為當局應先改善本港的安老措施。
Just now many opposition Members raised objection to cross - boundary elderly care . They think that the authorities should first improve elderly care measures in Hong Kong
我們當然十分贊成當局應先改善本港的安老措施，但我們認為，回鄉安老也是為來自五湖四海的朋友提供的一個選項。
Certainly we strongly agree that the authorities should first improve elderly care measures in Hong Kong; but then we think that living in hometowns during twilight years is also an option for people from different places of origin
有議員在討論將長者送返內地時反映出一種"恐中"、"反中"的情緒。
When discussing the idea of sending elderly people to the Mainland some Members showed a sinophobic or anti - Chinese sentiment
但是，我們所談論的是涉及內地的跨境問題，政制及內地事務局也身負重要角色。
But we are now discussing a cross - boundary issue involving the Mainland . The Constitutional and Mainland Affairs Bureau also plays an important role
內地面積廣闊，活動空間大，更可能有親友在內地居住，返回內地養老亦不是一個壞的選擇。
The Mainland covers a vast area with much space . As elderly people may also have relatives and friends on the Mainland spending their final years on the Mainland may not be a bad choice for them
尤其是，國家正發展粵港澳大灣區，如果安排得宜，回鄉安老是一件更好的事。
Particularly the country is now developing the Guangzhou - Hong Kong - Macao Bay Area . With proper arrangements it may be even better for them to live in their hometowns during their final years
香港政府可以與內地政府多進行協商，提供一些安老配套設施。
The Hong Kong Government may hold more discussions with the Mainland Government on the provision of support facilities for elderly care
所以，我認為政府應以更高層次的方式處理。
As the relevant measures should involve cross - departmental and cross - Bureau efforts I think the Government should deal with it at a higher level
內地的生活指數現時十分高，在廣東計劃下的1,000多元津貼其實不足以應付內地生活開支。
The standard of living on the Mainland is now very high . The subsidy of some 1,000 under the Guangdong Scheme is actually not enough to cover the living expenses on the Mainland
至於醫療券，現時只有一間由香港大學在福田經營的醫院可以使用醫療券，即使在大灣區......
As for health care vouchers they are applicable only to a hospital operated by the University of Hong Kong HKU in Futian
我暫且不提述偏遠的福建或其他地方，例如從韶關或廣州前往該所香港大學營運的醫院已廢時失事。
Even in the Bay Area Let me put aside some remote regions such as Futian and other places for the time being . It already takes a long time to travel from for example Shaoguan or Guangzhou to that hospital operated by HKU
所以，我們建議當局與各城市的甲級醫院作出配對，甚至幫助長者購買家鄉城鎮的基本醫療保險，讓他們在內地可以得到適切的醫療保障。
Therefore we propose that the authorities should match up with Grade - A hospitals in various cities or even assist elderly people in acquiring basic medical insurance covering their hometown cities so as to enable them to receive appropriate medical protection on the Mainland
當局應該在內地護老院購買更多宿位，讓香港長者入住，此舉可以減輕香港長者入住香港護老院舍的負擔。
The authorities should buy more places from residential care homes for the elderly on the Mainland to provide accommodation for Hong Kong elderly people . This can alleviate the burden on Hong Kong elderly people in need of accommodation in Hong Kongs residential care homes
工聯會的內地中心接獲很多相關個案，我亦知道位於韶關的護老院舍可能相對遙遠，較難吸引長者入住。
The Mainland Centre under FTU has received many related cases . I am also aware that it is difficult to induce elderly people to move into residential care homes for the elderly in Shaoguan probably because of the latters remote locations
內地也為長者提供乘車優惠。
The Mainland likewise offers fare concessions for their elderly people
我記得有立法會議員當年製作了一幅圖表，臚列出各大城市的長者乘車優惠。
I remember that a Legislative Council Member compiled a table back then setting out the fare concessions offered by various major cities
工聯會的內地中心經過調查研究後發現，很多資料是虛假的。
A survey conducted by the Mainland Centre under FTU has found that much information is false
因此，我希望局長可以與其他政策局處理及討論這問題，減輕在香港工作的子女供養在內地養老的父母的負擔。
Therefore I hope the Secretary can handle and discuss this with other Policy Bureaux so as to alleviate the burden on children working in Hong Kong in supporting their parents who spend their twilight years on the Mainland
不過，我所想的是如何做好此事，讓香港人有更多選擇。
But what I have in mind is how to proceed with this task properly and give more choices to Hong Kong people
我覺得這是我們應該做的，對香港市民亦是一個更好的選擇。
I think this is something we should do and is also a good choice for Hong Kong people
主席，我改變主意，不打算發言。
President I have changed my mind . I do not intend to speak
主席，當我想到"跨境安老"的議題，我就想起一齣很多香港人在1983年看過的電影，可能羅致光局長也看過，那齣電影名為"楢山節考"。
President the motion on Cross - boundary elderly care reminds me of a popular movie screened in 1983 in Hong Kong and Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong might have watched it too
到了2018年，我們要面對甚麼問題？
In 2018 what problems do we need to face?
我向大家指出，本港的安老服務相當差，全民退休保障遙遙無期，各種長者服務，無論是院舍、護理安老院或家居服務的平均輪候時間也十分長。
I have to highlight to Members that in Hong Kong the elderly care services are rather poor universal retirement protection may not be realized in the foreseeable future and the average waiting time for various elderly services no matter residential care homes for the elderly care and attention homes for the elderly or ageing in place services is also very long
在2017年，本港有6,259位長者在輪候服務中死亡。
In 2017 6 259 elderly people passed away while still waiting for the services in Hong Kong
政府一直以短視、漠不關心及不近人情的態度處理安老政策，在多年之後也無法解決日間託管服務、護理安老院、"買位計劃"等問題。
The Government has been taking a short - sighted oblivious and uncompassionate attitude in dealing with the elderly care policy . After many years it is still unable to resolve the elderly problems concerning day care services care and attention homes for the elderly and the Enhanced Bought Place Scheme
就在這時候，有人想出一種更好的方法，簡單可稱之為"眼不見為淨"，就是用盡方法吸引長者到內地居住，但實質上是把他們趕回內地安老。
It was at that time that some people came up with a better idea and we can simply call it out of sight out of mind which is to attract the elderly by all means to reside on the Mainland but is actually driving the elderly to spend their twilight years on the Mainland
這不是新事物，早在大約十多二十年前，香港賽馬會也曾在內地經營安老單位。
This is not any new proposal as about 10 to 20 years ago the Hong Kong Jockey Club also operated some elderly care units on the Mainland
這是頗有趣的，這就是坐擁3萬億元儲備，有很多金錢進行"大白象"工程的政府的德政，說出來也真的有點荒謬及可悲。
How interesting it is . Can this be regarded as a benevolent measure of the Government which is sitting on the reserves of 3,000 billion and is spending a lot of money on the white elephant projects? . This is absurd as well as pathetic indeed
無論是"廣東計劃"、"福建計劃"，對於一些真的有種種原因而選擇前往該處居住的長者而言，是無可厚非的。
Either the Guangdong Scheme or the Fujian Scheme is fine for some elderly people who really have to choose residing there due to various reasons
我們一直把長者趕走，同時間卻希望更多大灣區的富貴人家在香港居住，因為只有他們才可以負擔香港已經到了"癲價"的豪宅，才可以有能力為香港帶來更多財富、學識。
While we are driving the elderly people away we hope that more well - off people from the Bay Area can come to live in Hong Kong because they are the only people who can afford the exorbitant prices of luxurious apartments in Hong Kong and can bring more wealth and knowledge to Hong Kong
我們每個人也有機會踏入退休年齡，當看到政府不是做好在香港為長者提供的服務，而是用盡方法對長者"眼不見為淨"的時候，那種感覺是相當差的。
Every one of us has a chance to reach retirement age . I really feel miserable when seeing that the Government is trying every means to rid itself of the elderly people rather than providing better services for them in Hong Kong
所以，與其要求政府用盡方法做好跨境安老，我覺得反而應請政府認清楚自己做的事情，做好現時香港的各種安老服務，無論是長者的安老院舍、醫療服務、家居服務等，不要迫長者走頭無路，要返回內地度過最後的日子。
Hence instead of asking the Government to try all means to provide better cross - boundary elderly care I think we should ask the Government to focus on its own duties and do better in the various elderly care services in Hong Kong no matter in residential care homes for the elderly or ageing in place services and not to drive the elderly into a corner and force them to spend their twilight years on the Mainland
當我們看到本地的長者還可以要求救護車在20分鐘內把他們送院，在內地很多時候面對的是"有錢有病有藥醫，沒錢沒藥醫"。
In Hong Kong an elderly person can ask the ambulance to send him to the hospital within 20 minutes . But on the Mainland a patient can only receive medical treatment if he has a lot of money and will be denied of any medical care if he cannot afford it
當考慮到要把性命交給一個毫無保障的政府的時候，她最終決定回到香港。
After considering that she might be entrusting her own life to a government which does not provide any protection she finally decided to return to Hong Kong
我希望政府特別是羅致光局長做好本分，不要再做一些傷天害理的事情。
I hope that the Government especially Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong can perform his own duties properly instead of engaging in any evil deeds
在2018年5月25日的內務委員會會議上，議員決定成立一個小組委員會，以研究《2018年證券及期貨規則》。
At the meeting of the House Committee on 25 May 2018 Members decided to form a Subcommittee to study the Securities and Futures Amendment Rules 2018
為了讓小組委員會有更多時間進行審議工作，我謹代表小組委員會，動議將上述規則的審議期限，延展至2018年7月11日。
In order to allow the Subcommittee more time for scrutiny I move on behalf of the Subcommittee that the scrutiny period of the above Rules be extended to 11 July 2018
代理主席，我謹請議員支持議案。
Deputy President I implore Members to support the motion
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：周浩鼎議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr Holden CHOW be passed
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：周浩鼎議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now put the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr Holden CHOW be passed
議員已獲通知，由於周浩鼎議員這項延展附屬法例修訂期限的議案獲得通過，涂謹申議員已撤回他就這項附屬法例提出的議案。
Members have already been informed that as Mr Holden CHOWs motion to extend the period for amending the subsidiary legislation has been passed Mr James TO has withdrawn his motion on this subsidiary legislation
在2018年5月25日的內務委員會會議上，議員決定成立一個小組委員會，以研究與開放式基金型公司制度有關、並已於2018年5月18日在憲報刊登的3項附屬法例。
At the House Meeting on 25 May 2018 Members decided to establish a subcommittee to study the three pieces of subsidiary legislation related to the open - ended fund company regime and gazetted on 18 May 2018
為了讓小組委員會有更多時間進行審議工作，我謹以小組委員會主席的身份，動議將3項附屬法例的審議期限延展至2018年7月11日。
To allow more time for the Subcommittee to conduct the scrutiny work I move in my capacity as Chairman of the Subcommittee that the period for scrutinizing the three pieces of subsidiary legislation be extended to 11 July 2018
代理主席，我謹請議員支持議案。
Deputy President I urge Members to support the motion
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：張國鈞議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now put the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr CHEUNG Kwok - kwan be passed
在2018年5月25日的內務委員會會議上，議員決定成立一個小組委員會，以審議與頻譜使用費相關的附屬法例。
At the meeting of the House Committee on 25 May 2018 Members decided to form a Subcommittee to scrutinize the subsidiary legislation on spectrum utilization fees
在2018年6月5日的小組委員會會議上，委員已完成相關法律公告的審議工作。
At the meeting of the Subcommittee on 5 June 2018 members already completed the scrutiny of the relevant Legal Notices
為了讓小組委員會有足夠時間整理向內務委員會提交的報告，我謹以小組委員會主席的身份，動議將該項附屬法例的審議期限，延展至2018年7月11日。
In order to allow the Subcommittee sufficient time to compile the report for submission to the House Committee I move in my capacity as the Subcommittee Chairman that the scrutiny period of the piece of subsidiary legislation be extended to 11 July 2018
代理主席，我謹請所有議員支持議案。
Deputy President I implore all Members to support the motion
我現在向各位提出的待議議題是：莫乃光議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now propose the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr Charles Peter MOK be passed
我現在向各位提出的待決議題是：莫乃光議員動議的議案，予以通過。
I now put the question to you and that is That the motion moved by Mr Charles Peter MOK be passed
主席，我動議修正梁志祥議員的議案。
President I move that Mr LEUNG Che - cheungs motion be amended
在2018年5月25日的內務委員會會議上，議員決定成立一個小組委員會，以研究有關更新5間專營巴士公司的巴士路線表、並已於2018年5月18日在憲報刊登的6項附屬法例。
At the meeting of the House Committee on 25 May 2018 Members decided to form a Subcommittee to study the six pieces of subsidiary legislation on updating the bus route schedules of five bus franchisees which had been gazetted on 18 May 2018
為了讓小組委員會有更多時間進行審議工作，我謹以小組委員會主席的身份，動議將該6項附屬法例的審議期限，延展至2018年7月11日。
In order to allow the Subcommittee more time for scrutiny I move in my capacity as the Subcommittee Chairman that the scrutiny period of the six pieces of subsidiary legislation be extended to 11 July 2018
主席，香港正面對人口老化的問題，很多五六十年代出生的市民將陸續步入退休年齡，本港有需要為人口老化做好準備。
President Hong Kong is facing the problem of an ageing population . People born in the 1950s and 1960s will be approaching their retirement ages . It is thus necessary for us to properly prepare for population ageing
相對於在香港興建更多院舍，不論是在土地需求或人員的供應方面，居家安老肯定是更好的選擇，亦應該是政府投資更多資源的方向。
Ageing in place is definitely a better choice and the direction for the allocation of more Government resources than the construction of more residential care homes of the elderly RCHEs taking into account of the demand for land sites and the manpower supply
但是，本港的樓價高昂，而且生活指數高，要在本港安享晚年對中產而言已經負擔不輕，對於貧窮的基層市民而言，即使有政府援助，生活亦不容易過。
However due to the exorbitant property prices and high living standard it will barely be affordable for the middle class to enjoy their twilight years in Hong Kong . Life is really not easy for the poor grass - roots people even with subsidies from the Government
我們經常聽到獨居老人的苦況，即使能入住老人院，不少院舍的環境欠佳，亦為社會詬病。
We frequently hear people talking about the hardship of elderly singletons . The living environment of some RCHE residents is also far from satisfactory as quite a number of local RCHEs have come under fire for their poor conditions
所以，如果能夠在國內提供更好的環境，更多的人手和更專業的支援服務，便一定有人樂意選擇回鄉養老，特別是早年從內地來港，現時仍與同鄉保持聯繫的人亦相信這批人為數不少面對這些選擇，他們一定選擇回鄉養老。
I am sure that some elderly persons will be happy to retire on the Mainland if we can provide better environment more care personnel and professional support services to them . For those who have kept in contact with compatriots in their hometowns after they moved to Hong Kong at a young age they will have stronger desire to settle on the Mainland . I think many elderly persons somehow have connections in their hometowns and they will surely opt to settle on the Mainland after retirement
事實上，過去已經有不少人回鄉養老，政府已經推出措施協助市民跨境安老，包括廣東計劃、福建計劃、廣東院舍住宿照顧服務試驗計劃及綜援長者廣東及福建省養老計劃，這些政策推出後，協助了很多長者返回內地，目前有近兩萬名長者參加這些計劃，回內地安老。
So far a large number of elderly persons have settled on the Mainland after retirement . The Government has also launched a number of initiatives in support of cross - boundary elderly care . With the aids of such schemes as the Guangdong Scheme the Fujian Scheme the Pilot Residential Care Services Scheme in Guangdong and the Portable Comprehensive Social Security Assistance Scheme many elderly persons have been able to reside on the Mainland after retirement
不過，現實上，跨境安老有不少困難，令大部分長者卻步。
The number has reached nearly 20 000 now . In real life however there are many difficulties hindering the development of cross - boundary elderly care and discouraging a majority of elderly people from settling on the Mainland
第一，是路途遙遠，長者由內地回港，一般需要兩三小時，如果長者要在香港覆診則更為不便，而且子女探望也不方便。
Generally speaking it will take two to three hours for them to return to Hong Kong from the Mainland . Elderly persons will suffer from greater inconvenience if they need follow - up medical consultations in Hong Kong . Their children may also find it inconvenient to visit them
第二，便是醫療的問題。
Another worry is the availability of medical services
長者難免會多病痛，他們如果在內地沒有醫療保險，除了定期覆診，如果有病也要回港診治，屆時便會很麻煩。
Elderly persons are more prone to illnesses . If they are not covered by any medical insurance schemes on the Mainland they will need to return to Hong Kong for the treatment of illnesses aside regular follow - up consultations . This will be very troublesome
所以，要協助跨境安老，便要先處理這兩個問題。
Hence to promote cross - boundary elderly care we will first need to overcome these two hurdles
我們正在推動粵港澳大灣區的發展，港珠澳大橋和高鐵即將通車，市民往返內地能節省不少時間，減低長者對剛才說路途遙遠的擔憂，正好為長者跨境安老創造比較有利的條件。
The development of the Guangdong - Hong Kong - Macao Bay Area is well underway while the Hong Kong - Zhuhai - Macao Bridge and the Hong Kong Section of Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong Express Rail Link will soon commence operation . The shortened journey time will lessen the worry of elderly persons over the long distance between the two places . This is favourable to the development of cross - boundary elderly care
所以，第二 個問題便是醫療問題。
The second problem we have to deal with is the provision of medical services
今天的原議案和部分修正案也提出多項關於醫療的建議，包括把醫療券的應用範圍擴大至內地主要醫院及診所，容許長者的病歷轉到內地，以及為長者購買內地鄉鎮居民基本的醫療保險等，這些建議也值得我們考慮。
Today we have proposed ways to improve the medical services for elderly persons residing on the Mainland in the original motion and some amendments to the motion . There are calls for extending the scope of application of Hong Kongs Health Care Vouchers HCVs to cover major hospitals and clinics on the Mainland; allowing for the transfer of medical records of elderly persons who have moved to the Mainland to Mainland hospitals; and taking out Urban Resident Basic Medical Insurance for elderly persons who have moved to the Mainland . These proposals are worth our consideration
基本上，目前的醫療券已經可以在香港大學深圳醫院使用，事實也證明這種模式可行，政府應該考慮擴大至在內地的大型醫療機構使用。
At present Hong Kong elderly persons can basically use HCVs in the University of Hong Kong - Shenzhen Hospital and this approach is proven to be feasible . Hence the Government should consider further extending the scope of application of HCVs to cover large - scale medical institutions on the Mainland
相信政府稍後會與內地的各間醫院商討合作計劃，希望可以盡快在內地使用醫療券。
I trust the Government will discuss the cooperation plan on the use of HCVs with Mainland hospitals in due course . Hopefully elderly persons can use their HCVs on the Mainland in the near future
另外，由於申請長者生活津貼的居民每年也有居港日期的限制，這批大約40多萬名的長者基本上難以跨境安老，我認為應該考慮放寬，參考廣東計劃，讓申領人移居內地。
Besides the residence rule under the Old Age Living Allowance OALA has made it difficult for some 400 000 elderly persons to opt for cross - boundary retirement . I think the Government should make reference to the Guangdong Scheme and relax the residence rule to allow OALA recipients to move to the Mainland
由於他們得到的津貼較廣東計劃更高，應該可以應付內地退休的生活，如果能夠配置好醫療的配套，相信更多長者願意回鄉安老。
As the amounts of allowance under OALA are higher than those under the Guangdong Scheme OALA recipients should be able to cope with their retirement life on the Mainland . With the provision of proper medical support I believe more elderly persons are willing to retire on the Mainland
除了基層市民，其實有不少中產長者也有興趣跨境安老，希望可以較便宜的價錢享受優質的服務環境。
Indeed apart from the grass roots many middle - class elderly persons are also interested in cross - boundary elderly care services to enjoy quality services and good environment at more affordable costs
事實上，內地在外國引入了一套較高質素的安老院舍，服務環境和設施也比較好，而且有基本的醫療配套服務，對中產長者有一定的吸引力。
Modelling on their overseas counterparts some Mainland RCHEs not only offer high - quality services as well as better environment and facilities but they also provide basic medical support services making them considerably attractive to middle - class elderly
但是，中產長者沒有政府資助，要入住這些優質的安老院舍，可能會擔心長遠構成的財政壓力。
However without any Government subsidy middle - class elderly in Hong Kong may feel worried about the long - term financial pressure of living in the quality Mainland RCHEs
我多次建議政府善用保險模式，協助解決人口老齡化的問題。
I have time and again called on the Government to make better use of the insurance - based model to help address the problem of population ageing
現時亦有不少先例，包括自願醫保、強制性公積金和年金計劃，所以，對跨境安老的問題也可以用保險模式來協助中產長者解決。
Some examples are the Voluntary Health Insurance Scheme the Mandatory Provident Fund Schemes and the HKMC Annuity Plan . An insurance - based scheme may be helpful to address the cross - boundary care need of middle - class elderly
近期保險業積極研究大灣區的發展前景，我收到一份業界的建議，鼓勵業界跨境發展安老的保險產品，為長者回內地養老創造更有利的條件。
Recently the insurance industry has proactively examined the development prospect in the Bay Area . I have received a proposal from the industry which advocates the development of cross - boundary insurance products for seniors to further facilitate Hong Kong elderly persons to retire on the Mainland
同時建議與兩地政府商討，鼓勵保險公司參與大灣區安老設施的投資，發展高質素的安老院舍，以及提供安老保險產品讓長者投保。
The proposal also calls on the insurance industry to engage in discussion with Governments of the two places encourage insurers to participate and invest in the development of elderly facilities in the Bay Area to build quality RCHEs there and to provide insurance products for seniors
這些都是初步建議，可否發展需要更多研究，但我認為很有建設性，既可創造多贏的局面，包括發展出一套中產長者跨境安老新模式，又可協助社會解決老齡化的問題，同時為保險業開拓新路向，更為大灣區發展良好的合作模式。
The proposal is preliminary and its feasibility requires further studies . Yet I find the proposal very constructive and conducive to the achievement of an all - win situation the development of a new model of cross - boundary elderly care for the middle - class; the provision of a solution to population ageing in society; the exploration of a new development direction for the insurance industry and the forging of a sound cooperation model for the Bay Area development
我已經建議香港保險業聯會深入研究可行性，以及再與政府商討，希望有關具體建議可以盡快得到雙方或兩地政府的同意，讓市民盡快受惠。
I have asked the Hong Kong Federation of Insurers to thoroughly study the feasibility of the proposal for further discussion with the Government . I hope that when the concrete proposal is in place it can obtain expeditious approval from Governments of the two places to let the public benefit from it as soon as possible
梁志祥議員提出的議案正是希望可讓長者回鄉養老，給予他們多一個選擇，而不是把離港限制強加於他們身上。
Instead of compulsorily imposing the absence limit on elderly persons the motion moved by Mr LEUNG Che - cheung seeks to give them one more choice so that they can retire in their hometown
離港本來也是一種權利，但他們卻因領取"生果金"而不能離港，令他們沒有選擇。
After all leaving Hong Kong is also a right to which elderly persons are entitled but as recipients of fruit grant they have been deprived of such a choice
我剛才不知有否聽錯，但我感到很奇怪的是，朱凱廸議員表示要有"真選擇"，正如他之前所說要有"真普選"。
I wonder if I have got it right but it is very puzzling to me when Mr CHU Hoi - dick indicated just now that there should be a genuine choice just like the remarks he made previously to support genuine universal suffrage
那就是讓長者無論身處香港或內地，均能有所選擇。
It means that elderly persons should be able to make their own choice no matter they are physically in Hong Kong or on the Mainland
楊岳橋議員今次提出的考慮、考慮、再考慮建議，我認為是一個倒退的方案。
Mr Alvin YEUNG proposes in his amendment that the Government should consider doing this and that but I think it is nothing but a retrogressive proposal
梁志祥議員已解釋得很清楚，而我也非常認同原議案中第七項建議，亦即"研究將香港醫療券的應用範圍擴展至內地主要醫院及診所"。
Mr LEUNG Che - cheung has already explained very clearly and his proposal in paragraph 7 of the original motion to conduct a study on extending the scope of application of Hong Kongs Health Care Vouchers to cover major hospitals and clinics on the Mainland is also very agreeable to me
所以，梁志祥議員的建議是從尊重長者的角度出發，無論其籍貫為何，在哪裏居住，均可有多一個選擇。
Mr LEUNG Che - cheungs proposal is actually put forward from the perspective of showing respect for elderly persons so that no matter what their native place is and where do they live they can be given one more choice
我想告訴朱凱廸議員，這才是長者的"真選擇"。
I would like to tell Mr CHU Hoi - dick that this exactly is a genuine choice for elderly persons
他所說的"真選擇"完全剝奪了長者可享有的選擇，強迫他們必須留在香港養老，令他們不能選擇返回內地，那其實是一個"假選擇"。
The genuine choice he referred to will totally deprive elderly persons of an option they can enjoy force them to stay in Hong Kong to live their retirement life make it impossible for them to choose to return and settle on the Mainland and this is actually a false choice
我倒希望他成為"真議員"，可以為了令長者有更多選擇而發聲，不要"反中上腦"，為了反中而禍及長者。
Yet I hope he will turn into a genuine Member who voice for more choices for elderly persons rather than becoming so obsessed with his anti - China stance and sacrificing the interests of elderly persons for this