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如果立法會繞過或僭越這機制，最後得出一個完全不同的結果，我擔心勞顧會將來還可否扮演處理勞資爭議的角色。
If the Legislative Council bypasses or ignores this mechanism and ultimately comes up with a completely different result I am worried whether LAB can still play a good role in resolving labour disputes in the future
我現就《2018年僱傭條例草案》發言，我會支持多位民主派議員提出的修正案，把侍產假增至7天。
I now speak on the Employment Amendment Bill 2018 and I support the amendments proposed by several Members from the pro - democracy camp to increase the duration of paternity leave to seven days
作為社工、作為社福界的議員，每當討論到勞福政策時，我也會感到有點慚愧。
As a social worker and a Member representing the social welfare sector I feel somewhat ashamed whenever we discuss labour welfare policies
面對其家庭友善政策落後於主要資本主義城市的情況，一向自誇為國際大都會、與世界接軌的香港，其"追落後"的建議竟然引起社會上不少反響。
Hong Kong boasts itself as an international metropolis which is able to keep abreast with the world . But given its backward family - friendly policies which lag behind those of major capitalistic cities a modest proposal to catch up with the lowest global standard has surprisingly triggered rounds of feedback from society
當然，其中一個最大阻力，來自代表僱主和商界利益的人士和商界領袖，例如張宇人議員就帶頭反對增加侍產假的建議。
Of course one of the biggest obstacles comes from business leaders who represent interests of employers and the business sector . Mr Tommy CHEUNG for instance takes the lead in opposing the proposal to increase the duration of paternity leave
主席，網上有一系列名為"一句'激嬲'"的小玩意。
President there are some trivia games online which invite players to propose top annoying phrases
我敢說以下這數句涼薄說話，如果用於參加"一句'激嬲'香港人"比賽，相信將會是三甲之選。
I dare say the following spiteful phrases will win the top three places if they are proposed as entries in the Top Annoying Phrases to Hong Kong People contest . The second runner - up comes from the online blog of Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong who said the five - day paternity leave proposal was the only acceptable option to the Government . He further cited two poetic lines penned by Lu Xun to describe his sentiment Fierce - browed I coolly defy a thousand pointing fingers
第三位季軍，見於羅致光局長的網誌，他提到5天侍產假是政府唯一接受的方案，並且引用魯迅的詩句"橫眉冷對千夫指，俯首甘為孺子牛"形容；第二位亞軍，是張宇人議員說的"侍產假一日也不應該有，我們以往沒有侍產假又如何，以往我們的太太沒有產假又如何？
The first runner - up is a quote from Mr Tommy CHEUNG . He said No paternity leave should be granted not even one day . We did not enjoy any paternity leave in the past but so what?
"；第一位冠軍，又是出自張宇人議員，他把要求侍產假視為永 無止境的苛索，提到"你以為7天侍產假他們就會收手嗎？
Our wives did not enjoy any maternity leave in the past and so what? . The champion comes also from Mr Tommy CHEUNG who sees the request for paternity leave an insatiable demand . He remarked So you thought they would stop after getting seven days of paternity leave?
7天之後便是14天，14天之後就變成1個月，然後就是1年"。
With a seven - day paternity leave in hand they will ask for a further extension to fourteen days and then a month and even a year
雖然我不是為人父親，但以上說話應該是我聽過最涼薄的說話之一了，不單會一句"激嬲"香港人，更會一句"激死"香港人。
I am not a father but those lines I quoted above should come among the most malicious comments that I have heard . They are not just annoying but infuriating to Hong Kong people
現時已經是21世紀，對於張宇人議員的說話，我不想用"你不如試一試現時不用智能電話，改用'大哥大'電話出街吧"這類晦氣說話來反駁，因為這樣只會顯得我與他同樣的戾橫折曲，流於情緒謾罵。
It is now the 21 century and I do not want to rebut Mr Tommy CHEUNGs remarks by asking him to use a first generation mobile phone instead of a smart phone when he is on the move . If I make such a sarcastic remark one verging on emotional diatribe it will only mean that my argument is just as faulty and distorted as his
我想指出的是，在今時今日的文明社會，我們應該討論促進性別平等。
I would like to point out that in a civilized society today we should discuss issues like promoting gender equality
"其實，這種制度便假定了男人在家庭中的角色仍然是"主外"，想生育便要犧牲女人的事業和機會。
In fact such a system works on the assumption that men are meant to be breadwinners and women must sacrifice their career and the accompanying chances if they want to have a child
這叫男女平等嗎？
Is this an expression of gender equality?
家庭既然是共同建立的，女人與男人便應該有均等責任，難道生育只有媽媽開心嗎？
As a family is co - built by a couple both man and woman should take up equal share of responsibility . Is it possible that the birth of a child brings joy only to the mother?
為何要剝奪男人在生兒育女中享有的權利呢？
Why should a man be deprived of the rights in child rearing?
侍產假就是希望讓爸爸從工作中抽身，調整自己的心態和角色，學習做一位新生兒的爸爸，學習做一位媽媽的丈夫，再思考如何讓自己的家庭事業兩者兼顧並且作出安排。
Paternity leave enables a father to have a break from their work make adjustments to his roles and mindset and learn how to behave as a father to his newborn baby and a husband to his wife while considering and making proper arrangements to balance work and family commitments
侍產假不單讓介乎於生育年齡的女性和男性，可以在職場上有一個較均等的機會比併，實際上，也可以鞏固核心家庭的建立理念，推動男女在家庭中有較平等的角色。
Paternity leave also enables women and men of reproductive age to compete on a level playing field in the workplace . Indeed it further helps consolidate the notion about building a nuclear family and promote more equal roles between men and women in the family
以前沒有侍產假又如何？
We did not enjoy any paternity leave in the past and so what?
是的，香港真的有許多基層父親因為早出晚歸，失去不少懷抱初生子女的機會。
Indeed many grass - roots fathers work long hours and have missed lots of chances to cuddle their newborn babies
張宇人議員覺得這樣沒有問題，羅致光局長也說"橫眉冷對千夫指"，覺得錯過自己子女的成長並無問題，覺得不參與子女的成長並無問題，因為他們覺得男人根本不需要參與。
Mr Tommy CHEUNG does not find this a problem . Similarly Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong said Fierce - browed I coolly defy a thousand pointing fingers suggesting that he does not mind missing the chance to accompany his children and get involved during their development stage . Both of them find it unnecessary for men to participate in the process
種種言行，可見商界不僅着力維護其自身利益，更是從根本地否定男性僱員在生育一事上享有權利。
All these words and deeds show that the business sector is not only striving to safeguard its own interests but also taking a further step in denying the procreation rights of male employees fundamentally
面對這些忽略男士需要的牢固思想，社會需要政府更強力的介入，從根本地糾正過往刻板、偏重女性責任的家庭生育觀念。
In the light of such prevailing rigid notions that show a disregard for mens needs the community calls for stronger intervention from the Government to radically rectify the stereotypical concept on childbirth that highlights womens responsibilities in a family
與其說"打工仔"的要求是永無止境的苛索，不如說張宇人議員的言論不是代表了一種永無止境的壓榨。
Rather than saying that the requests of wage earners are insatiable demands we should say that Mr Tommy CHEUNGs remarks represent a kind of incessant exploitation
在老年化、少子化的年代，家庭友善政策對於鼓勵生育至關重要。
Living in the era of population ageing and low fertility family - friendly policies are of utmost importance in boosting birth rate
其實，勞工及福利局局長羅致光也說過，香港的產假標準較不少非洲國家落後，進行徹底檢討實在是政府應有之義。
In fact Dr LAW Chi - kwong Secretary for Labour and Welfare has once said the standard of maternity leave in Hong Kong is more backward than those in many African countries and it is the Governments responsibilities to conduct a thorough review in this regard
可是，同樣需要在妻子分娩前後付出不少努力的本地男士，所能享有的侍產假卻不能追上國際水平。
However male citizens in Hong Kong who need to work equally hard before and after their wives delivery are denied a paternity leave entitlement on a par with the international standard
當政府終於下定決心，將女性產假大幅提升至國際建議水平，為何又堅決拒絕增加區區兩天的男士侍產假呢？
While the Government finally musters the determination to bring maternity leave up to the global recommended level why does it doggedly refuse to increase the duration of paternity leave by two days more?
缺乏政治決心可能是其中一個原因，政府顯然不願硬推一連串撼動商界利益的勞工政策。
A lack of political determination can be one of the underlying reasons . The Government is obviously reluctant to force through a series of labour policies that may undermine business interests
羅致光局長早已宣之於口，指5天侍產假是目前政府唯一接受的方案，呼籲外界珍惜這個得來不易的共識。
Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong has explicitly asked people to treasure the five - day paternity leave proposal as it is now the only acceptable option to the Government as well as a hard - earned consensus
我實在不明白作為社工前輩的羅局長，為何可以一邊批評香港的產假標準比非洲落後，一邊卻又因為商界的威脅而屈服。
I really cannot understand why Secretary Dr LAW who is such a veteran social worker criticizes the standard of maternity leave in Hong Kong as more backward than those of African countries while at the same time succumbing to the threats from the business sector on the matter of paternity leave
這究竟是甚麼勇氣、甚麼邏輯、甚麼意志？
What kind of courage logic and determination is this?
取消強積金對沖、調整長期滯後於國際標準的產假，均會挑戰商界的利益。
Both abolishing the Mandatory Provident Fund offsetting mechanism and adjusting the duration of maternity leave which has for years lagged behind international standard will challenge the interests of the business sector
政府不想再"大幅"增加侍產假，可被視作政治上的懷柔政策。
The Governments refusal to substantially increase paternity leave can be seen as a kind of political appeasement
究竟何時香港才能與時並進，真正成為一個家庭友善的城市呢？
When may I ask will Hong Kong eventually be able to keep abreast with the times and become a genuine family - friendly city?
在外國，侍產假及照顧家庭的假期非常普遍。一般由3天至數十天不等。
It is indeed a commonplace for overseas countries to provide paternity leave and family leave ranging from three days to several dozens of days
在歐洲各國越來越重視父母皆可參與照顧子女，例如瑞典在1974年已經將由女性僱員享有的產假改為男女共享的"親職假"，而男士享有的假期日數亦逐漸上升。
In Europe countries attach increasing importance to the rights for parents to jointly take care of children . For instance Sweden changed in 1974 maternity leave for female employees to parental leave enjoyed by both sexes with the number of leave days for men increasing gradually
父母共同照顧子女，令家庭關係更顯和諧，瑞典的離婚率也由1995年開始下降。
Taking care of children by both parents is conducive to more harmonious family relationship and divorce rate in Sweden has thus been declining since 1995
政府及張建宗司長常常吹噓有多少企業自願提供侍產假，但說到底，政府一天不立法，所謂"家庭友善政策"都只是畫餅充飢。
The Government and Chief Secretary Matthew CHEUNG have very often bragged about the number of enterprises which provide paternity leave for their employees voluntarily . But in the end without the Governments enactment of legislation the so - called family - friendly policies can only be placebos
要達致家庭友善，產假與侍產假都不可或缺。
Both maternity leave and paternity leave are essential to a family - friendly community
事實上，男性須在伴侶分娩前後提供各種必要的支援，政策提供區區5天侍產假並不能稱得上家庭友善。
As a matter of fact men are obliged to provide all sorts of necessary support before and after their partners delivery . A policy initiative that seeks to introduce a meagre five - day paternity leave is far from being family - friendly
聽聞羅局長似乎頗欣賞"獅城"新加坡。
I have heard that Secretary Dr LAW seems to admire the Lion City of Singapore a lot
在"獅城"，男性能享有兩周的有薪侍產假，女性也享有16周的有薪產假，而男士更能申請分享其伴侶不多於4周的產假，以分擔產後照顧初生嬰兒的責任。
In the Lion City men are entitled to paid paternity leave of two weeks while women enjoy 16 weeks of paid maternity leave . Additionally a man can apply to share no more than four weeks of maternity leave from his partner in order that they can jointly shoulder the responsibilities in looking after the newborn baby
局長，我知道由3天增至5天，一定經過不少斡旋。
Secretary I can imagine that many negotiation efforts have been made to come up with a proposal of increasing paternity leave from three days to five days
但事實上，5天實在太少。
But as a matter of fact five days are really less than adequate
上帝創造這個世界也用上了7天，祂用6天來創造世界，1天休息。
It takes seven days for God to create this world six days for creation and one day for rest
如果有第六天或第七天，我相信這樣肯定可以成就一個更完滿、更完美的生命栽種。
If there are day six or day seven I am sure they can definitely help perfect the wonderful nurturing of a new life
代理主席，我發言呼籲大家支持我的修正案，同時亦支持其他泛民主派議員提出的修正案。
Deputy Chairman I speak to urge Members to support my amendment as well as the amendments proposed by other pan - democratic Members
這項建議已提出了很多年，不過，問題在於局長和很多建制派議員經常說侍產假得來不易，然後一次又一次逐少地增加侍產假日數。
This proposal has been raised for many years but the Secretary and many pro - establishment Members always say that paternity leave is not easy to come by and any increase should be made in a gradual manner
這是以權勢來欺壓立法會，政府不單令立法會成為勞顧會的橡皮圖章，亦成為政府的橡皮圖章。
The Government is turning the Legislative Council into a rubber stamp of LAB and of the Government
原來立法會沒有自主獨立性，原來議員不可以因應選民和個人的意願而進行表決，而是基於勞顧會的決定和政府的態度來進行表決。
It turns out that the Legislative Council cannot be independent and autonomous and Members cannot vote in accordance with the electors preference and their own preference . Members can only vote on the basis of LABs decision and the Governments attitude
無論如何，我們今天並非討論權利問題，而是友善家庭的趨向，希望每一個家庭都能把嬰孩照顧得更好，這才是最重要的。
Anyway we are not discussing our rights today but the trend of family friendliness . Our prime concern is that each family can take better care of the children
有多位議員剛才在二讀辯論時已提到，產後抑鬱症等問題會嚴重影響家庭，但我們為何不從社會整體資源這個角度來檢視這問題，而是如此狹窄地從功利的角度來看待問題，例如侍產假多了2天，便會造成人手不足、僱主要花很多錢等？
As mentioned by a number of Members during the Second Reading debate problems like postpartum depression will seriously affect a family . However why do we not look at this issue from the perspective of social resources as a whole instead of looking at it from a narrow utilitarian angle focusing on manpower shortage and the increase in operating cost brought by an extra two days of paternity leave?
局長本身是一名社會學者，為何不多從社會角度來看問題，而只是如此簡單地從商界或老闆利益的角度來看問題呢？
The Secretary is a sociologist . Why does he not look at these issues from a social perspective instead of simply from the perspective of the business sector or the interests of employers?
"所以，在這一點上，我希望局長能照顧一般"打工仔"這種心情，以及他們猶如被歧視的看法。
Hence on this point I hope that the Secretary will take into account the sentiment of the general wage earners and their view of being discriminated against
最後，我希望我們議會不是政府的橡皮圖章，我們每名議員都有自己獨立的思考和自主性，只會投自己該投的票。
Lastly it is my hope that our Council is not a rubber stamp of the Government and every Member has his own independent thinking and autonomy and can vote with his free will
在多項修正案中，其中有一項是建制派議員也不斷提及的，便是一次過增加其實不太好，倒不如分階段進行。
Among the various amendments is one that proposes to implement the increase in the number of leave days by phases instead of implementing at one stroke which is repeatedly referred to by pro - establishment Members
這種完全沒有個人意志的表現，實在令人非常失望。
I find it very disappointing that they have completely failed to demonstrate their free will
有多少經歷剖腹生產、身體元氣大傷的女性不希望丈夫伴在身邊？
How many women who have given birth by caesarean section and are physically weak would not wish to have their husbands at their side?
我相信廣大"打工仔"一定同意要爭取7天。
I believe that most wage earners would agree to strive for seven days paternity leave
我就斟酌這句"不可為而為之"，為何不可呢？
Let me focus on the saying that we are striving for the impossible why cant this be done?
這就是橡皮圖章，市民要看清楚，今次這只是一項勞工議題，還未說到普選，不用"阿爺"出聲，政府說一句，建制派便全部跪低。
Members of the public have to see clearly . This time only a labour issue is involved and we are not talking about election by universal suffrage . There is no need for Grandpa to say anything and with one word from the Government the entire pro - establishment camp succumbs
沒有勞工代表嗎？
Do we not have representatives of the labour sector in the Legislative Council?
我很贊成返回立法會議事堂討論。
I strongly support discussion at the Legislative Council instead
當工聯會說爭取侍產假及產假是他們的"親生仔"，我想告訴市民，有些人連親生子女也可以賣掉。
When FTU says that paternity leave and maternity leave are its own children I wish to tell the public that some people can even sell their own children
我覺得這一番話相當坦白，亦相當老實，就是議會內商界老闆的代表，多謝爭取勞工權益的代表，原來他們感情非常好。
I think Mr SHIUs remarks are very honest which is the representative of bosses in the commercial sector thank the representatives who strive for labour rights and interests . It turns out that the two parties have a very good relationship
工聯會的同事不如跟邵家輝議員和自由黨握握手，來個互相擁抱親吻，原來他們的關係就是這樣。
Colleagues from FTU might as well shake hands with Mr SHIU Ka - fai and representatives of the Liberal Party or even embrace and kiss each other . Now I see their real relationship
這正正反映了勞顧會內的情況，勞顧會內他們所謂的代表基層勞工的聲音。
This rightly reflects the situation within LAB and the so - called representative of grass - roots workers in LAB
有一種說法是，勞顧會委員的選舉根本沒有平台，沒有宣傳，甚至沒有選舉規則。
Another view is that in respect of the election of LAB there is no platform no publicity and even election rules are not formulated
坦白說，勞顧會是一些商界老闆和親商界老闆的工會的"政治婚姻"。
Frankly LAB is a political marriage between certain bosses in the commercial sector and the trade unions that side with these bosses
當然，他們可以不斷抹黑提出將侍產假修訂為7天的民主派議員，指我們是政治表態，爭取道德高地。
Of course they can continue to smear democratic Members who propose to extend paternity leave to seven days accusing them of declaring their political stance and taking the moral high ground
我重申，我不是擁抱左翼思想的人，我跟廣大市民一樣，承認在社會上商界有帶動經濟發展的重要角色。
I reiterate that I do not embrace the left - wing views and I like the general public recognize the important role played by the business sector in stimulating economic development
我在此呼籲各位議員，拿出良心來投票，亦呼籲"CK"，拿出良心來說話，好嗎？
I would like to call upon all Members to vote according to their conscience and I also call upon CK to speak according to his conscience
勞工及福利局局長，你是否想再次發言？
Secretary for Labour and Welfare do you wish to speak again?
主席，我發言呼籲大家支持我的修正案。
Chairman I rise to speak with the intention of urging Members to support my amendment
我動議我的修正案，第一是修正詳題，刪去"由3日增加至5日"而代以"由3日增加至7日"；第二是修訂《2018年僱傭條例草案》第31條，在建議修訂的《僱傭條例》第15E2b條中，刪去"5日"而代以"7日"。
My first amendment is to amend the long title by deleting from 3 days to 5 days and substituting from 3 days to 7 days . My second amendment is to amend clause 31 of the Employment Amendment Bill 2018 the Bill by deleting 5 days and substituting 7 days in the proposed section 15E2bii of the Employment Ordinance
我提出修正案，希望在《條例草案》中提升男性僱員的侍產假權利，使之盡快符合國際水平，即由3日增加至7日。
My amendment seeks to enhance the paternity leave entitlement of male employees under the Bill by increasing the duration from three days to seven days so as to be in line with international standards as soon as possible
香港僱員的權益，其實已遠遠嚴重落後於其他先進地區。
Hong Kong is actually lagging far behind other advanced regions in respect of employee rights and interests
所以，如果香港要維持國際城市的地位，根本早應加快步伐，提升香港僱員的勞工權益。
Therefore if Hong Kong is to maintain its status as an international city it should expedite the enhancement of labour rights and interests long ago
"打工仔"理應享有更好的生活質素，才可以有更佳工作士氣和動力，對其服務的公司、機構有更大歸屬感，為香港社會創造更多經濟價值。
Improving wage earners quality of life can boost their job morale and motivation enhance their sense of belonging to the companies and organizations in which they serve and create extra economic value for the Hong Kong community
所以，加快改善侍產假日子，稍為追上現時的國際標準和水平，才是真正有效提升香港城市競爭力的方法。
So expediting the improvement of paternity leave entitlement to slightly catch up with the existing international standard and level is a truly effective way to enhance the competitiveness of Hong Kong
所以，新民主同盟認為，特區政府過去長期偏袒商界，5天侍產假根本脫離了香港"打工仔"的實際需要和訴求。
For these reasons the Neo Democrats thinks that the SAR Government has tilted in favour of the business sector for prolonged periods in the past and five days paternity leave is simply out of tune with the actual needs and demands of Hong Kong employees
剛才為多位議員發言引用，是勞工處在2016年進行的一項官方問卷調查研究，以及一個焦點小組討論會，檢討侍產假政策。
Just now when various Members spoke they referred to an official questionnaire survey conducted by the Labour Department in 2016 and the discussion held by a focus group to review the policy on paternity leave
調查結果顯示，一半受訪香港僱員認為，法定侍產假應該增至最少7天，當中超過四分之一受訪者更要求侍產假增至10天或以上。此外，有約三分之二曾放取3天侍產假的僱員表示，他們需要使用自己的年假來延長侍產假，為期1天至15天不等。
According to the survey findings half of the Hong Kong employees interviewed thought that statutory paternity leave should be increased to at least seven days; over one fourth of the respondents even demanded an increase of paternity leave to 10 days or above . Around two thirds of employees who had taken three days paternity leave said that they had to take annual leave spanning 1 day to 15 days to prolong the duration of paternity leave
調查結果確實和真切地反映香港"打工仔"需要放取更長侍產假，這便是主流民意，亦符合社會和科學標準。
The survey findings have accurately and truthfully reflected the need of Hong Kong employees for longer paternity leave . This is the mainstream public view which is also in line with social and scientific standards
所以，工聯會何啟明議員在二讀辯論發言時提到的"主流意見"，所指的其實是其工會自己進行的調查，我引述的則是官方調查結果，政府應該參考及嚴肅對待。
Hence when Mr HO Kai - ming from The Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions FTU mentioned mainstream view in his speech during the Second Reading debate he was actually referring to the survey conducted by trade unions of FTU . The Government should draw reference from the official survey findings that I quoted just now and consider them seriously
我更加認為侍產假的薪酬應該提升至全薪，而非沿用現時的五分之四工資。
I even think that the pay for paternity leave should be increased to full pay rather than adhering to the existing rate of four fifths of the wages
我與其他議員亦曾在法案委員會上，進一步要提出修訂侍產假至7天的建議，但勞工及福利局局長羅致光卻表明不會考慮，並清楚說明"我的門已經關上"。
At a meeting of the Bills Committee I together with other Members further proposed to increase paternity leave to seven days . But Secretary for Labour and Welfare Dr LAW Chi - kwong clearly stated that he would not consider this proposal and even said that my door is shut
其間，政府亦多次以"勞工顧問委員會已有共識"為由，拒絕接受我們提出的修正案，這是絕對說不通的。
In the process the Government also rejected our amendments for the reason that the Labour Advisory Board LAB had reached a consensus . This justification simply cannot stand to reason
勞顧會不應該凌駕立法機關，凌駕立法會修訂法案的職能和權力。
LAB should not override the legislature and overtake its function and power of amending bills
我們由選民選舉產生，是民意代表，需要承擔責任。
We are elected by voters as their representatives and we have to be accountable to them
政府應該聽取立法會的意見多於勞顧會，更加不應忽視大多數香港僱員的訴求，理應把侍產假增加至7天。
The Government should attach more importance to the views of the Legislative Council than those of LAB and it should not disregard the demand of the majority of Hong Kong employees for seven days paternity leave
所以，我請羅致光局長不要輸打贏要，不要與建 制派議員"互扯貓尾"、合謀蒙騙，更不應該與那些為爭取而爭取、要"永續爭取"的工會"扯貓尾"，互相拉扯，而不回應市民訴求。
Therefore I urge Secretary Dr LAW Chi - kwong to stop acting like a sore loser and conniving with pro - establishment Members in an attempt to deceive people by their conspiracy . He should not even connive with trade unions which strive for strivings sake advocate for perpetuate struggle and refuse to respond to peoples demands
第二，政府政策長期傾斜於商界。
Second the Government has tilted in favour of the business sector for prolonged periods
張宇人議員說得很委屈，指他在訪問時被人硬塞了一些說話。
Mr Tommy CHEUNG poured out his grievances that words had been put into his mouth during an interview
他表示那句"侍產假一天也不應該有"是被人冤枉的，但即使如此，也是由於他過去這種代表商界寸步不離，剝削勞工的形象已入型入格，深入民心。
He argued that he had been framed as he had never said not even one day of paternity leave should be provided . But even so he has been wronged because his image as an uncompromising representative of the business sector who exploits employees is very vivid and deep - rooted in peoples minds
可是，是否真的需要這樣做呢？
Nevertheless is it really necessary to do so?
謝偉俊議員和麥美娟議員剛才強調自己沒有小孩。
Just now Mr Paul TSE and Ms Alice MAK stressed that they had no children
但我想指出，就着男士侍產假的制訂，只要我們有同理心，無需有做過老闆、生育小孩或擔任新手爸爸的經驗，也應該要發言。
But I wish to point out concerning the question of paternity leave even if we are not employees have not given birth or do not have newborn babies we can also speak on this issue as long as we have empathy
因為，我們看到國際經驗，知道香港的勞工權益對比起其他地方遠遠落後，就會明白面對今次由5天增加至7天的修正案時應該怎辦。
If we draw reference from international experience we would know that Hong Kong lags far behind in respect of labour rights and interests and hence we should know how to face the amendments on increasing paternity leave from five days to seven days
我們應該明白如何易地而處，處理男士侍產假的問題。
We should understand how to put ourselves in others place when dealing with the issue of paternity leave
一間公司如果連僱員的基本權益都不能夠負擔，便難以挽留人才。
A company which ignores employees basic rights and interests can hardly retain talent
這樣子剝削，只會令"打工仔"身心疲累，並且會令公司、機構的工作效率下降。
Employees who are subjected to such exploitation will be weary in body and mind and their work efficiency will drop
又有議員發言，正如民建聯葛珮帆議員說，由於現時失業率十分低，很難聘請員工，認為不是錢的問題，而是人的問題，所以要大量輸入外勞。
Some Members such as Dr Elizabeth QUAT from the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong said that owing to the current low unemployment rate it was difficult to recruit workers . The problem was not related to money but manpower hence it was necessary to import large numbers of foreign workers
很多時，正因為有人要求大量輸入外勞，令香港"打工仔"無法加薪、工資維持低水平，令員工不敢隨意下班，工時加長，更不敢放假。
Given the demand for massive importation of labour employees do not have a pay rise; their wages have remained at a low level; they have to work long hours and they dare not take leave
這樣的話，男士如何能夠有足夠時間照顧初生嬰兒和新手母親 呢？
As such how can male employees possibly have sufficient time to take care of their newborn babies and their wives who have just given birth?