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當然，沒有人說過夏正民法官的調查委員會不能調查這一部分，但其主要對象肯定是港鐵公司和有關承建商，而接下來我們亦須考慮根據夏正民法官的調查報告，究竟應如何收拾這個爛攤子。
Of course no one has ever said that the Commission chaired by Mr Michael HARTMANN cannot inquire into this part but its main subjects are definitely MTRCL and the relevant contractors . Next we must also consider based on the inquiry report by Mr Michael HARTMANN exactly how such a mess can be cleared up
我們面對將來政府和港鐵公司之間的關係，無論是在工程，以至運作和整體管治上，究竟應該採取甚麼方向，這正正是我很想立法會能夠透過專責委員會檢視的事。
As regards the future relationship between the Government and MTRCL whether in terms of construction projects operation and overall governance exactly what direction should be adopted? . It is the very matter that I hope the Legislative Council can examine through the select committee
主席，我們發現這樣的管治、政府在這次沙中線事件中未能有效作出監察，無論是因為董事的利益衝突，以至作為委託人和受託人之間的角色矛盾，以及我們看見政府在通過委託協議中出現的漏洞，我認為我們也真的須認真和詳細地考慮這些方面。
President we have observed such kind of governance the Governments failure to perform effective monitoring in the SCL incident―whether because of the conflict of interests among board members or the conflicting roles between the entrusting and entrusted parties―and the loopholes in the Governments approval of the Entrustment Agreement that have come to our attention . In my view we really must give serious and meticulous consideration to these aspects
我另外聽到建制派議員說我們沒有足夠時間，而事實上，時間是十分迫切的。
Moreover I have heard Members from the pro - establishment camp say we do not have enough time and as a matter of fact time is running out
沙中線現時通車無期，我們十分期望夏正民法官的調查報告能夠盡快有結果。
Given the indefinite commissioning date of SCL we very much expect that results will be available as soon as possible in the inquiry report by Mr Michael HARTMANN
當然，陳帆局長說港鐵公司須在本月底提交報告，不過，這也只不過是解釋其文件為何出現了如此嚴重的缺失吧了，更重要的是，究竟整個工程的安全情況如何、我們可以如何盡快讓沙中線安全通車？
Of course Secretary Frank CHAN has said that MTRCL must submit a report by the end of this month which is only to account for the serious blunder of incomplete documentation . More importantly how is the safety of the project as a whole and how can we enable the safe commissioning of SCL as soon as possible?
但是，立法會的重點則更長遠，我們要看的是未來政府和港鐵公司的整個管治架構。
Nevertheless the Legislative Councils focus is on a farther horizon . We need to examine the entire governance framework between the Government and MTRCL in the future
如果我們仍然維持現有的架構，以及完全由政府出資，由港鐵公司設計、承辦和運作的模式，在無論是高鐵，以至現時的沙中線也出現一連串超支和醜聞的情況下，這架構和模式究竟是否再適用於將來的工程？
If we were to maintain the existing framework as well as the pattern of funding a railway fully by the Government and having MTRCL to design and operate it on contract given the series of cost overruns and scandals in both the Express Rail Link and the SCL projects which is now under discussion are such framework and pattern still suitable for future projects?
所以，主席，我們有自己的角色和責任，我希望建制派議員不要第九次維護......
Therefore President we have our own roles and responsibilities . I hope Members from the pro - establishment camp will not defend for the ninth time
運輸及房屋局局長，請發言。
Secretary for Transport and Housing please speak
何君堯議員今天提出這項議案，最低限度指出了制度的問題所在。
Dr Junius HO has moved this motion today pointing to the problems of the System at least
因此，當時有很多所謂經濟學家，甚至是學術界人士也紛紛唱和，反對全民退休保障制度。
Consequently many so - called economists at that time and even some in the academia echoed with one another in opposition to a system of universal retirement protection
我們計算一下，過去行政費已收取接近1,000億元。
We made a calculation and found that they had already collected almost 100 billion in the past
究竟強積金這盤生意有多值錢？
Exactly how much the MPF business is worth? . Recently I read an article by Jake VAN DER KAMP an insightful commentator in the South China Morning Post who pointed out that Standard Chartered Bank had just sold its MPF business to Manulife at a consideration of US400 million and this MPF business accounted for about 24 % of the entire MPF market
第二，當局強迫我們將儲蓄、薪金等血汗錢交出，要我們儲起一部分，但香港整體的工資，在第一次的市場分配中已相當刻薄，香港的工資在全球先進地區來說，是嚴重偏低的。
Second the authorities force us to hand over part of our hard - earned money such as wages and savings and make us save that portion . However overall wages in Hong Kong are already mean enough during the first round of market distribution and as far as the worlds advanced regions are concerned the wages in Hong Kong are particularly low
在第一次的分配極之不公義的情況下，當局再經強積金強迫我們交出一部分薪金給這些受託人，這做法完全不負責任。
Given the very unjust first - round distribution it is an utterly irresponsible act of the authorities to force us by way of MPF to surrender part of our wages to the trustees
既然新加坡已實行了很多年，為何我們還要將市民的血汗錢交給那些受託人、中介公司，讓他們蠶食我們辛苦賺來的報酬呢？
Since Singapore has practiced this system for many years why must we still hand over our hard - earned money to the trustees and intermediaries for them to nibble away our hard - earned rewards?
為何政府不肯負起這個責任呢？
What is the reason for the Government to refrain from taking up this responsibility?
為何當局不讓整個強積金制度逐漸邁向由政府管理呢？
Why do the authorities not allow the whole MPF System to gradually move towards management by the Government?
再進一步來說，主席，我認為強積金制度根本沒有風險分攤的效果，是一個欠缺互相平衝，缺乏社會公義的制度。
Furthermore President I think the MPF System does not have any risk - sharing effect; it is a system that lacks balance between both sides or social justice either
長遠而言，香港應該採用社會保險的形式來處理退休保障制度。
In the long run Hong Kong should use some form of social insurance to tackle its retirement protection system
今天，本港人口老化的問題已經逼近，如果政府再不有所行動，10年、20年後，我們的老人貧窮問題只會更嚴重。
Today the problem of an ageing population is at our doorstep . If the Government still does not act our elderly poverty problem will only become more serious in 10 to 20 years
"活化強制性公積金"議案。
Motion on Revitalizing the Mandatory Provident Fund
政府不是全港最大的地主嗎？
Isnt that the Government is the main landowner in Hong Kong?
政府是最大的地主，亦最富有，但卻向我們說道無計可施，除非我們給予他們土地......
The Government is the biggest landlord and the richest entity but they are telling us there is nothing they can do unless we give them land
主席，我動議若稍後就"增加過渡性房屋供應"所提出的議案或其修正案進行點名表決，表決須在鐘聲響起1分鐘後進行。
President I move that in the event of further divisions being claimed in respect of the motion on Increasing transitional housing supply or any amendments thereto this Council do proceed to each of such divisions immediately after the division bell has been rung for one minute
主席，首先，我要感謝鄭泳舜議員提出今天的議案，讓大家可就過渡性房屋的發展作討論。
President first of all I wish to thank Mr Vincent CHENG for moving this motion today so that we can have a discussion on the development of transitional housing
事實上，過渡性房屋並不是新鮮事，早在上世紀50年代開始，政府已經建有徙置大廈和臨時房屋供基層家庭居住，以紓緩當時擠迫、惡劣的房屋問題，並逐步發展為今天的公共房屋。
In fact transitional housing is nothing new . Starting in 1950s the Government already built resettlement buildings and temporary housing for grass - roots families to ease the overcrowded and poor living conditions at that time . These housing units had gradually developed into todays public housing
當然，今屆政府終於落實建議，我們知道陳帆局長與其團隊在過渡性房屋方面正在開始一些工作。
Certainly the current - term Administration has finally implemented this initiative . We know that some kind of work on transitional housing has been set off by Secretary Frank CHAN and his team
對於以過渡性房屋協助解決基層的住屋困難，我相信跨黨派和市民都會認同。
I believe that all the political parties and groupings and the public agree to use transitional housing to solve the housing difficulties faced by the grass - roots people
政府表示要發揮民間力量，把過渡性房屋的項目交由非政府機構處理，但不撥款，只為它們申請資助。
According to the Government the community should be mobilized and that the transitional housing schemes should be taken up by NGOs . Nevertheless no funding will be provided and there will only be assistance for them to apply for funding support
然而，所有人也知道在香港要發展房屋，最重要的便是金錢。
Nevertheless we all know that money is the most important thing for housing development in Hong Kong
我們看過一些鄰近地區的組合屋，其設計就好像以一個一個盒子，砌成一間房屋，而其特色在於組合屋有排污設施，可以處理排污。
We have seen modular housing in some neighbouring places . The design is like building a housing unit using various boxes and is featured by its connection to sewage facilities to handle sewage
但是，如果要引進這些新技術來香港，我相信單靠香港社會服務聯會或其他民間組織也不能成事，必須由政府牽頭，由政府配合去做。
However if we want to introduce these new techniques into Hong Kong I do not think that we can just rely on the Hong Kong Council of Social Service HKCSS or other community organizations to get the job done . The Government must take the lead and play a coordinating role
此外，鄭議員剛才也提到，立法會秘書處為我們完成了一份研究資料，可見不同地區的過渡性房屋，例如加拿大、澳洲和台灣的過渡性房屋，都是由政府提供資源協助發展。
In addition Mr CHENG also mentioned that the Legislative Council Secretariat has prepared for us a fact sheet of transitional housing in other places . It can be seen that in different places such as Canada Australia and Taiwan resources are provided by their Governments to help the development of transitional housing
局長，我也認識你身邊兩位過渡性房屋專責小組的成員，我知道他們是很能幹的公務員同事，但過渡性房屋專責小組的人數那麼少，可想而知，可以做到多少事情呢？
Secretary I also know two members of the Task Force on Transitional Housing sitting next to you and I know that they are very capable civil servants . But imagine with such small Task Force how much can be done?
因為現時過渡性房屋由多個民間組織做主導，每個機構和組織也可能因應其目標和宗旨定下不同計劃，這些計劃也是好的，但計劃的形式則較多。
It is because transitional housing projects are currently undertaken by a multiple of community organizations and these organizations and groups may also have designed different projects in accordance with their goals and objectives . These projects are all good but they may have different schemes
例如香港房屋協會在漁光村的過渡性房屋的申請門檻，是已登記輪候公屋3年或以上的家庭；九龍樂善堂的樂善堂社會房屋計劃，除了是輪候3年之外，還需要是居住在惡劣環境或急需支援的家庭；"光房"、"光屋"是針對低收入單親家庭；以及有一些是以更新人士或單身人士為對象，總之便是不同項目有不同對象。
For example the application threshold for the transitional housing of the Hong Kong Housing Society in Yue Kwong Chuen is families which have awaited public housing for three years or above; for Lok Sin Tong Social Housing Scheme of the Lok Sin Tong Benevolent Society Kowloon the applicants must be families living in inadequate conditions or in urgent need of support on top of the requirement of having awaited public housing for three years or above; and for Light Home Light Housing the target beneficiaries are low - income single - parent families; and also for some other projects the target beneficiaries are rehabilitated persons or singletons . In short different projects target different users
所以，如果交由政府統一處理，便能夠解決市民和有需要人士不知道該向甚麼機構提出申請或是否要找社工轉介等問題。
Therefore if this can be centrally processed by the Government the problems of the public and the needy not knowing which organizations to apply for or whether they should seek referral by social workers will be solved
此外，就着現時由非政府機構提供的不同"光房"計劃或過渡性房屋計劃，例如"樂屋"等，亦應有一個統合平台。
In addition there should also be a consolidated platform for various Light Home or transitional housing programmes such as Lok Sin Tong Social Housing Scheme currently provided by NGOs
此外，我們知道要發展過渡性房屋，土地資源相當重要。
Moreover we know that land resource is very important for transitional housing development
我對於原議案提出政府土地清單的建議表示支持，但我們認為單靠政府用地並不足夠，所以政府也要考慮如何運用私人荒廢或臨時用地。
I support this suggestion of providing a list of Government lands in the original motion . But we think that it is not enough to use Government land alone the Government should also consider making use of private wasteland or temporary land
土地供應專責小組便曾提出，現時私人發展商擁有近1,000公頃的私人土地儲備，如果有一些誘因令私人業主願意借出土地以發展過渡性房屋，應可發展一些較大型和更多單位的項目。
The Task Force on Land Supply has noted that private developers now have nearly 1 000 hectares of private land reserve . If we can provide some incentives to encourage private owners to lend the lands for development of transitional housing some larger projects and projects with more units could be developed
此外，在市區，有時候發展商收購樓房的過程很漫長，那麼，在收購過程中，可否也把這些單位臨時借出作過渡性房屋之用呢？
Besides the acquisition processes of units by developers in urban district are sometimes very lengthy . Then in the meanwhile could they lend these units out temporarily for the purpose of transitional housing?
我們留意到，原議案和各項修正案都提到市區重建局。
We note that the original motion and various amendments have referred to the Urban Renewal Authority URA
當然，政府也要讓發展商有信心，知道借出單位後，日後可以成功收回，不會影響它們的發展計劃，這也很重要。
Undoubtedly the Government should also reassure the developers that after lending the units they can successfully recover them in the future without affecting their development plans . It is also very important
對於原議案及各項修正案，香港工會聯合會也大致認同。
In general the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions agrees to the original motion and various amendments
"增加過渡性房屋供應"議案。
Motion on Increasing transitional housing supply
我請鄭泳舜議員發言及動議議案。
I call upon Mr Vincent CHENG to speak and move the motion
主席，我加入議會短短1年時間，連同今次，已經是第三個涉及房屋的議員議案。
President it has been only one year since I joined the Legislative Council and this is already the third Members motion on housing
一項議題的討論次數，反映議題的複雜性、嚴重性及迫切性。
The number of times a subject is discussed reflects its complexity seriousness and urgency
以房屋議題為例，我對基層住戶的體會最深，我服務的社區九龍西是全港最多"劏房"的地區。
Taking the subject of housing as an example I am most aware of the needs of the grass - roots households . Kowloon West the community I serve is the region with the largest number of subdivided units
按政府統計處的數據，九龍西轄下有3個分區，油尖旺區有21,500個"劏房"、深水埗區有15,400個、九龍城區有9,000個，共有45,900個"劏房"，接近全香港數字的一半。
According to data provided by the Census and Statistics Department on the three districts in Kowloon West there are 21 500 subdivided units in Yau Tsim Mong District 15 400 in Sham Shui Po District and 9 000 in Kowloon City District . These 45 900 subdivided units are nearly half of the total number of subdivided units throughout Hong Kong
政府2014年提出了《長遠房屋策略》，當年全港有105,600個住戶蝸居於這些不適切住房，主要是"劏房"。
The Government announced its Long Term Housing Strategy LTHS in 2014 . There were then 105 600 households living in inadequate housing conditions in the whole of Hong Kong . These were mostly subdivided units
然而，《長策》已落實4年，2018年的情況如何？
After LTHS had been implemented for four years what was the situation in 2018 like?
另一方面，數字亦說明，不單覓地興建公共房屋需時，即使有公屋，要減少不適切住房的住戶數目同樣需時。
On the other hand the figures also indicated that it is not only true that building public rental housing PRH takes time but even when PRH units are provided reducing the number of households living in inadequate housing conditions also takes time
至於《長策》，政府應該長期推行，特別是在公屋輪候期回落之前，應更主動、積極地去做。
The Government should also implement LTHS on a long - term basis . It must be proactive as well as active particularly when the waiting time for PRH is still long
當然，加快興建公屋才最重要。
Of course speeding up the building of PRH is most important
我雖然不滿意現時公屋每年的供應量大幅落後、不達標，但興建公屋及短期措施卻刻不容緩。
I am not satisfied with the current situation . The annual supply of PRH is lagging so far behind and failing to meet the target . However there is a pressing need for PRH to be built and for short - term measures to be taken
主席，2014年的《長策》並非沒有提及過渡性房屋，不過當時的政府說要把所有精力集中興建永久住屋。
President it is not that the 2014 LTHS has not mentioned transitional housing but the Government in office then said that all efforts should be focused on building permanent housing
當時的《長策》認為過渡性房屋不切實可行。
According to the LTHS then transitional housing was not feasible
一如我之前引用的數字，即使不斷興建公屋，如果興建的數量持續不達標，公屋輪候時間只會不斷延長，被迫蝸居於"劏房"的住戶數目只會易升難跌。
As reflected by the figures cited by me we may continue to build more PRH but if the number of PRH units continues to fail to meet the target the waiting time for PRH will continue to become longer and longer . The number of households forced to live in inadequate housing conditions in subdivided units will not decrease but will continue to increase . The current - term Government is aware of the problem mentioned above
雖然今屆政府上場後亦意識到上述問題，在施政報告提出以破格思維，協助及促成各項由民間主導及推行的短期措施，以增加過渡性房屋的供應，但《長策》依然沒有把過渡性房屋視為住屋階梯的一部分，亦沒有任何長期政策及財政資源支持，更遑論有任何供應目標及時間表。
In its Policy Address it suggests that thinking out of the box transitional housing supply be increased by assisting and facilitating various short - term measures initiated and implemented by the community . However transitional housing is still not considered a rung on the housing ladder in LTHS . Transitional housing is not supported by any long - term policy or any financial resources
因此，基於這些考慮，我的議案第一部分建議，把過渡性房屋納入《長策》，成為住屋階梯的第一級。
There are no supply target and timetable . Therefore based on these considerations part 1 of my motion proposes to include transitional housing in LTHS as the first rung on the housing ladder
我同時亦期望在未來3年就各類房屋提供一個總供應目標，我認為目標應該不少於1萬個單位。
I also propose that a target be set for the total supply of various kinds of housing in the next three years which should not be less than 10 000 units
局長，為何以1萬個作為起點呢？
Secretary for Transport and Housing why should our starting point be 10 000 units?
我們也曾考慮，現時大概有11萬個住戶蝸居於"劏房"等不適切住房，連同過去數年的數字，平均數約為10萬。
We have considered this carefully . There are now about 110 000 households living in inadequate housing conditions like subdivided units . The average number of such households in the previous several years was about 100 000
主席，我的議案提出把過渡性房屋列入《長策》，說的不單是給予名份，而是真正要獲得政策及財政上的支持。
President my motion proposes that transitional housing be included in LTHS . I mean not just nominal recognition but real policy and financial support
雖然政府現時經常說會推動過渡性房屋，但除了運輸及房屋局轄下一個專責小組負責推動之外，根本沒有政府的執行部門負責跟進，一切都是以民間組織主導。
The Government is always saying that it will work on the provision of transitional housing . However besides a task force under the Transport and Housing Bureau to facilitate this no executive bodies of the Government are responsible for follow - up efforts . All efforts have been initiated by community organizations
主席，要開展一個新項目，民間組織的確較為靈活及易於創新，作為先導計劃的執行者是有優勢，民建聯亦樂見和支持民間組織推動過渡性房屋。
President to start a new project community organizations are indeed more flexible and it will be easier for them to introduce innovations . They have an advantage as executors of pilot schemes . DAB is also happy to see this and support community organizations in their efforts on transitional housing
然而，民間組織的人力物力難以肩負如此大規模發展過渡性房屋的重擔，特別是興建過渡性房屋及改裝整幢工廈等大型工程。
However community organizations do not have the human and material resources to take up the heavy burden of developing transitional housing on such a large scale especially big projects like building transitional housing and converting whole industrial buildings
以香港社會服務聯會現時正進行的組合屋為例，在建造方面，機構現時主要靠一些專業團體、學會義務提供協助。
For example the Hong Kong Council of Social Service HKCSS is now undertaking the Modular Social Housing Scheme . For the construction projects HKCSS is now relying on the assistance of some professional organizations and academic associations
而資金方面，大家知道他們靠不同基金集資，加上各方面配合才得以推行過渡性房屋。
For the capital investment we all know that they rely on money raised by various fund organizations . The coordinated efforts of various parties are essential for them to successfully provide transitional housing
如果這3個機構都願意加入，一定事半功倍，亦象徵政府有承擔參與過渡性房屋供應。
If all of these three organizations are willing to participate in the provision of transitional housing we will be able to do more with less effort . This will also show that the Government is committed to participating in the provision of transitional housing
因此，我的議案第二部分要求政府邀請上述3個機構積極提供過渡性房屋。
Therefore part 2 of my motion urges the Government to invite the above mentioned organizations to actively provide transitional housing
當然，除了人力及執行機構外，更需要的是資金的支持。
Of course besides manpower and executive organizations funding support is even more important
雖然"財爺"去年已在財政預算案預留10億元，資助善用政府閒置用地或校舍的組織，其中包括籌辦過渡性房屋項目的組織，以應付基本工程費用，但計劃至今仍未見蹤影；而且基金亦不是專門用作資助興建過渡性房屋，項目的倡議人要跟其他組織一起競爭這些資源，在極端情況下，可能一點資助也取不到。
The Financial Secretary earmarked 1 billion for organizations to make good use of idle government sites or vacant school premises including inter alia organizations that plan to provide transitional housing . This subsidy will help organizations to pay basic project costs . However nothing has come out of this so far
所以，民建聯過去一直要求政府以設立專項專用的"過渡性房屋基金"為起步，而我們建議的金額是不少於20億元。
In the worst circumstance they may not be given any subsidy . Therefore DAB has always been urging the Government to set up as a first step a dedicated Transitional Housing Fund . We suggest that this fund should be no less than 2 billion
我留意到其他同事對此有不同的建議，例如30億元或40億元，故此我希望解釋為何我們認為20億元是一個合適的數目。
I notice that other colleagues have different views on this . Their suggestions are for example 3 billion or 4 billion . Therefore I would like to explain why we think that 2 billion is a suitable amount
一如我在議案第一部分所述，作為短期目標，我們希望在3年內會供應1萬個單位。
As I say in part 1 of my motion as a short - term target we hope that 10 000 units will be provided within three years
在過渡性房屋方面，除了新興建的組合屋外，翻新現有單位或現有設施亦可以，例如現時房協提供過渡性房屋的漁光邨單位，又或是 社會房屋共享計劃的單位。
To provide transitional housing besides building new modular social housing units we may also renovate existing units or existing facilities like the transitional housing units provided by HKHS at Yue Kwong Chuen or the units of the Community Housing Movement
翻新單位一般成本較低，1個單位約需5萬元至8萬元，這方面倡議機構較易應付。
In general renovation costs are lower . At about 50,000 to 80,000 per unit they can be borne by the proposing organization more easily
至於成本較高的主要是建造組合屋及改裝工廈，以社聯在深水埗南昌街興建的組合屋來計算，1個單位約需40萬元，確實需要政府的財政支援。
Higher - cost alternatives are mainly building modular social housing using MIC and converting industrial buildings . The modular social housing built by HKCSS on Nam Cheong Street Sham Shui Po costs about 400,000 per unit . Financial support by the Government is indeed necessary
我假設這類組合屋和改裝工廈佔目標單位的一半，即5,000個單位，以每個單位40萬元計算，資助金額便是20億元。
I assume that this type of modular social housing and converted industrial buildings will provide half of the targeted number of units . This will be 5 000 units . If each of these units requires 400,000 the subsidy will amount to 2 billion
當然，我認為實際金額可以調高，好像過去推動"樓宇更新大行動"一樣，第一輪不足夠的話，便加推第二輪；如果第二輪做得好，就推行"樓宇更新大行動2.0"等。
Of course I think the actual amount can be revised upwards . This is like launching Operation Building Bright in the past . When the first round proved to be not enough we launched a second round
民建聯相信，以今天政府的財政實力，不會缺乏金錢推動過渡性房屋，這是特首說的，但我相信現在欠缺的仍然是土地和決心。
DAB believes that as the Chief Executive has said given its current financial resources the Government will not lack the money to provide transitional housing . We believe that what we still lack is land and determination
所以，我們認為政府應成立基金，注入適量資金後，日後再進行注資，是較為合適的做法。
Therefore we think that the Government should set up a fund . It should be more appropriate that an adequate amount of money be allocated to the fund now and more be allocated in the future
主席，正如我剛才所說，推動過渡性房屋欠缺的是土地或單位，現時單靠政府的空置用地及閒置設施實不足夠。
President as I have just said we lack land or housing units for the provision of transitional housing . Now solely depending on idle lands and vacant facilities of the Government is not enough
因此，我亦希望當局能考慮提供財政誘因，包括寬免地價、差餉，甚至是物業稅，鼓勵更多私人企業把其名下物業租予官方或民間組織經營過渡性房屋，更徹底地調動民間資源，以紓緩基層住屋的困境。
Therefore I also hope that the Government will provide financial incentives including reducing or waiving land premiums rates and even property taxes to encourage more private enterprises to rent their properties to government or community organizations for operating transitional housing . This will make more effective use of community resources to relieve the housing problems of the grass - roots population
主席，我接着想談我的議案第五部分的建議，促請當局改變發放資訊的方式。
President I want to continue and talk about part 5 of my motion . I urge the Administration to change the way it disseminates information . The Administration has certainly made more information publicly accessible
當局現在無疑已開放較多資訊，例如把所有空置土地及資料放上網，但問題是，有興趣的組織現在要在官方網站逐塊地瀏覽和評估我也做過此事如果他們要認真投放時間和精神來尋找的話，要花上很大力氣，如果最後向政府部門申請被拒，便會白費心機，費時失事。
The problem is that organizations that are interested to know have to browse and assess the information on each piece of land on the official sites―I have done this myself . They will have to spend a lot of effort if they seriously put in the time and energy to search . In case after all of this the applications they submit to the government departments concerned are not successful a lot of efforts and time will be wasted
所以，民建聯認為，作為土地及物業擁有人，政府內部應該最清楚這些土地的設施、用途及限制。
Therefore DAB is of the opinion that as the Government is the owner of the lands and properties concerned knowledge about uses and limitations of these lands and facilities on them are best to be obtained from within the Government