I was being sarcastic, another trait that does not carry over here.  Bare with me, I'm going by memory, because it gives me a headache thinking about reading those pages.  We had no hands in the puppet heads, thank you very much.  The majority of the voting came from members of our site and TV.com who wanted to voice their opinion without putting their name on the line.  It killed both votes because no one wanted to take us seriously, nor did they want to acknowledge the fact that the majority voted to keep (which included staff members).  We were told if we made it to a certain number on Alexa we could stay.  That changed.  We were told we needed an article of noteability on a website not owned by us.  That changed.  We were told we needed to prove the relivancy of our site.  That changed.  Also, check the history sections.  A lot of our submitted info was deleted because Admins deemed it "Not Notable."    16:19, 16 October 2006