C'mon , don't capitulate just yet! It's all about quality  we need a good fight to establish that! Your challenges are well taken... Check the last entry at the bottom of the page from  there's a refernec to a book on "Arab Christians"  obviously Wikipedia is not yet complete... but we can get there. I am sure someone will provide you with a quote from an Ottoman text using the term "Cradle of Humanity"... Just give it some time...  00:16, 05 Feb 2004, (EST)