Also to repeat what I indicated on Toddst1's page, I don't think "ownership" is not the problem. I didn't start How the Earth Was Made so I'm not sentimentally attached to it. I don't think Collectonian is either since she had put up for deletion. My insistence of this issue rests in my concern of other articles like it. It doesn't make any sense to be restricted by the preferences of a single user and not the consensus of the community at large.