El_C didn't revert his page, which you would notice if you looked.  He kept the bear.  The user at the second page didn't revert, some other bozo did.  Zscout370 did revert, and asked me not to, I agreed and we had a discussion, very civil.  As for Louisiana, up yours.  I got that from google news and more ridiculous things could happen.  ASSUME GOOD FAITH.  As for civility here, I refuse to be civil to people who aren't civil to me, simple fact.  I would not many admins also use this policy.  El_C and I have had a great relationship, ditto with Kim and Redwolf, why?  Because they earned my respect by showing me respect. THAT is how it works.