Naming convention violation part #3 

(Tiderolls) The guideline Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English), under the section heading Including alternatives, states that "The body of each article, preferably in its first paragraph, should list all common names by which its subject is widely known." The first sentence of that guideline states "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources"...(My emphasis). 

(NCDane) I read the naming convention before my previous message to you, and I considered Naming convention citations I originally provded to to constitute superseding, prima facie authority. I think they are worth repeating, and I will repeat them:German proper names should be treated with care, and attention to English practice

The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language''''(TR) That means an editor must support their position by providing sources that show a common English usage. 

(NCD) That is ridiculous because the article's previous authors did not provide citation, and the burden should be on them because they were the ones using a letter which does not exist in the English alphabet. 

Furthermore, you know as well as I do that ~B is not common English usage:  I am sure you, like me,  have NEVER in your life seen it used in ANY English-language publication EXCEPT for Wikipedia, and perhaps the Internet Wiki copycats. 

But since I am up against unreasonable legalism on this issue,  here is the first page of Google ENGLISH LANGUAGE BOOK hits on the name “Uli Hoeness”: 

http://books.google.com/books?id=rQfNyLM5svIC&pg;=PA200&dq;=uli+hoeness&hl;=en&ei;=17IPTYvdG8GB8gat5t3lDQ&sa;=X&oi;=book_result&ct;=result&resnum;=1&ved;=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q;=uli%20hoeness&f;=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=rQfNyLM5svIC&pg;=PA200&dq;=uli+hoeness&hl;=en&ei;=DrMPTdTaL4L98Abrkv2WDg&sa;=X&oi;=book_result&ct;=result&resnum;=2&ved;=0CDEQ6AEwAQ

http://books.google.com/books?id=x4m5uSd692QC&pg;=PA101&dq;=uli+hoeness&hl;=en&ei;=DrMPTdTaL4L98Abrkv2WDg&sa;=X&oi;=book_result&ct;=result&resnum;=6&ved;=0CEYQ6AEwBQ

http://books.google.com/books?id=OsTeLLAo6CkC&pg;=PA225&dq;=uli+hoeness&hl;=en&ei;=DrMPTdTaL4L98Abrkv2WDg&sa;=X&oi;=book_result&ct;=result&resnum;=9&ved;=0CFMQ6AEwCA

As you can see “Hoeness” is the version used.I also googled the next five pages and can confirm no use of ~B by any other English book source.I also found that the name “Uli Hoeness” does not occur in encyclopedias Brittanica,
Columbia/Bartleby and How Stuff Works.' 

However, it does occur twice as “Hoeness” in infoplease:'''

http://www.infoplease.com/search?q=+hoeness&in;=all&fr;=iptn&x;=45&y;=9

And it occurs 10 times times as “Hoeness” on the 1st page of Encyclopdia.com:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/searchresults.aspx?q=uli+hoeness 

(TR) Did you read the discussion that resulted from your post here? Several editors explained how the rendering of an article's subject spelling is determined. 

(NCD) No I did not see it. Where is it?

(TR) Some of those editors even agreed, in that particular instance, that the present usage was incorrect. Those editors, however, cited sources to support their position rather than simply stating "it's obviously incorrect". It appears that no consensus to change was reached as the article name remains unchanged. I have not seen one editor agree with you that there exists "indiscriminate foreign language insinuations ". There may be individual instances that need to be addressed (with the proper sourcing and discussion), but, under the present guideline, I see no need for wholesale changes. There is no "authority" on this project other than policy and consensus. If you wish a review of my position, you may contact any editor. Additionally, if you feel it necessary, you can raise the issue at the WP:Administrators' noticeboard/incidents. Tiderolls 

(NCD) I will attempt to post what I have written above at the apprpropiate forum if I can find it.