, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

That wasn't an attack (ad hominem), that was constructive criticism.  There's a difference.  "You're an idiot," is an ad hominem attack.  It is a baseless insult with no constructive intention.  "Rubbish" is an ad hominem attack.  There is nothing constructive other than an insult of another contributors work.  Telling fiddle they he or she has an "arrogant obtuse attitude" was constructive with the intention of advice on how to better deal with new posters.  "Instead of posting rubbish" is both an arrogant and insulting statement.  It did nothing to help me create a better article, OR give reasons why the SKK article was being deleted.  "Rubbish" is not an objective criteria.  "This article has already been posted & debated" is.  Of course this fact never was brought up until after the discussion was well out of hand.

Second, you cannot with any intellectual honesty characterize what I posted as "vandalism."  My repeated intention was to make a sincere contribution of a topic that I felt is important.  I was more than happy to discuss the merits of the article as evidenced by my fruitless attempt to use the "hangon" tag.  I literally barely had time to type a few words before the article was again deleted with absolutely zero discussion or valid justification.  

I encourage ALL parties to go back and look at how this played out.  There was NO discussion other than threats & a dismissive suggestion to go play in your own sandbox.  Is this really how you want to run Wiki?  It is, after all, your playground, and you get to make the rules.  That's fine with me.  Maybe you really have dealt with too many vandals, and were quick to lump me in with whatever hooligans you may be used to dealing with.  If I really wanted to be a vandal, I could easily use an ip proxy to keep posting & causing trouble here.  There would be little that you could do about it, but that is not who I am.  I am an honest contributor who took exception to fiddles arrogant and insulting attitude.  We can disagree on that assessment, but don't expect me to get on my knees with some "gee, I'm sorry" obsequiesness just so I can join the cool kids club.

My advice to you is maybe you, fiddle & hiber might reconsider your knee jerk reactions & at least assume positive intent (see "community" heading above) & try a discussion that does not start with something along the lines of "your work is rubbish."   16:42