, your obsession with me/my username now forming parts of titles (?) relating to a discussion on Farmer already covered above is disturbing and unhealthy. So stop. FYI my english is fine, so don't worry. Incivility is not just words but how these words are conveyed. The tone. Here both. Read WP:CIVIL.  calls my statement false. Not so. Until I added the quote from Farmer's book, it was not there. Only main source was Kaufmann. Had it been the case, then there would have been no incitament to start the discussion as above on sources and NPOV. So 's claim is false. Arnold is mentioned peripherically wrt lobotomy claims, but Kaufmann (8 refs) remains WP:UNDUE. I'd like to use my energy improving this article and others, but instead had to fend off repeated, non-stop gross incivility, personal attacksfalse accusations and statements ascribed to me repeatedly without proof, despite of clear statements in English opposing claims made above. So , why don't you spend your energy actually editing constructively rather than spend your time backbiting me, being mendacious and accusing others of having ulterior motives. Practise what you preach. Stick to the topic, which is Frances Farmer. Not me. So improve that instead.