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Well, we should include both names. I think it is quite likely that Vlachs refer to themselves as ""Vlachs"" when dealing with Serbs, since this is the term that Serbs generally refer to them, but that in their own communities, they are ""români"" (and that they do not declare Romanian on the census either because they see themselves as separate from the Romanian nation-state or because the believe that ""Vlach"" is the name of their ethnicity in Serbia - in the same way that Roma may declare themselves ""gypsies""; the first option is more likely).  ' ✉ 

I agree that we should include both names. I know that some Vlachs refer to themselves as Rumani in their language, but I am not sure that all of them use this name for themselves. It would be the best that we know names which Vlachs use for themselves in their own language/dialect. I read that Vlach language even had its own script based on the Greek script some 200-300 years ago, but today Vlach have no written form and Vlachs use either standard Romanian either Serbian for writing.  (talk) 

Without a doubt in their own tongue the Vlachs say they speak Romanian (rumanesce). There is no such thing as 'vlahesce'.

Whether the Vlachs are Romanian is essentially a political, not an ethnic question. Ethnically they are Romanian. 

However they have lived for two centuries under Serbian rule. During this time they lost religious services and schooling in their own language, which many used to have before 1830. The Serbian government and Serbian Orthodox Church have been applying a systematic and unrelenting program of assimilation.
For Vlachs Romanian personal names were forbidden by the Orthodox Church and this prohibition continues to this day. Last names (family names) were created by edict in the late 19th century throughout Serbia since they didn't exist before. All last names had to take the form ending in 'ic', usually using the father's name as the root. For most Vlachs this concealed their non Serb origin, though certain glaring exceptions continue, for example: Floric, Jepurovic, St[a]ngacilovic, etc.

The majority of Vlachs (some 300,000) do not consider themselves Romanian, but Serbian. To a large extent this is because they do not wish to be seen as unpatriotic or disloyal. In addition, since they have no education in their own tongue, many believe that modern culture cannot be expressed in their native tongue.

It is meaningless to point to official Serbian statistics about the 'Vlach' tongue or the number of Vlach speakers. Too many Vlachs suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

  

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Why is ISO code:none; ISO 639 code: none; Ethnologue code: none) constantly deleted? I see no objection in having this text as above.  

Because if there isn't any ISO, ISO 639, and Ethnologue code, what's the point of mentioning it? — 

 Chinese term 

Ni-hao! The Chinese word ""luómǎníyàyǔ"" means ""Romanian"" (not ""Vlach""), and I don't see what the point of linking it here is. Vlachs are not a recognised ethnic group in China and the ""Vlach language of Serbia"" is not spoken there significantly (if at all!). Thanks,  ' ✉ 

The chinese word was added as part of a revert/edit war, as u can see in the history of the article. seems ridiculous to be there, but before removing it, consider which name u will write first: the uncited alleged name they are said to use, or the official name the serbian state uses...?  

It's about as ridiculous as the Rumânesce/Rumâneşte in their own designation. We don't know that's their own designation. We could have the designations by which the Romanians call them (they certainly are relevant), but we don't know what they call themselves. Greier's POV pushing has no place here. [