, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 As far as the Nishkid warning, he already removed the BBC link that I said was vandalism - that has been settled and I was right on that issue. Recently, he and I were debating this new Balakian issue untill you came along and vandalised the page. The article policies are - as stated up top - "No original research" (Dardian is the only person on Earth to make that claim about Ordu - Balakian and JMW just quote him, that equals one of a kind original research and uncorrobrated). "Neutral point of view" (Balakian, Dardian are Armenian, JMW directly quotes Balakian), Verifiability (pg 176 of Burning Tigris does contain that quote, I checked. Hafiz Mehmed does not exist anywhere in history with connections to Ordu, I checked that, too.) You and others broke every rule over and over again. If you give me a source that fit the requirements of the article, then I will consider them. The truth is undeniable, everything else is a different matter.   16:35