Theogolgy John you should be fair and warn the other parties, i have been very civil.Jesus is not a pop star so i dont like the grouping, further more he is famous in two faiths, there is no arguing there, I would warn against your civilities as they border on bigotry. "random useless adherence" and it reflects poorly on a site which is discussing our blessed Jesus. as i have said most of the world loves Jesus and 1/5 of the world is Muslim, that is a lot of love, show a worldview please. Jesus is not property of one group. And we are fully aware of the politics of Jesus being a Jew and we know it would be removed if added because of the tension in such assertions.