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 Well, in a perfect world it would depend on the sourcing. As it stands? You could say it goes both ways. The fact that it was undisputed before 2004 or whenever could mean that Larry Sanger was the co-founder. It could also mean that Jimbo didn't see it that way but didn't want to be a dick until things got strained between them. It could be that Jimbo didn't CARE as long as Larry was helping Wikipedia, but now that he's running Citizendium and is making all these loud noises about how his will be teh bettars, Jimbo sees no reason to allow Larry a false prop. That's what I mean about how they have to work it out. The only NPOV way to handle it is to state the bald facts: that Larry Sanger asserts he is a cofounder, which Jimmy Wales says is untrue. I think blanket calling Larry Sanger co-founder is just as bad as stating Larry Sanger was just an employee. Talk| "