, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

 The current rules are he was notable when he was a Turkish citizen and he received and award(notability) due to his roots hence need to be mentioned in the opening. You made the Bundesliga remark yourself. I don't see where I didn't want anyone to comment on this, perhaps you were reading someone else as if it's me. Current rules aren't dubious, in fact; very clear. This issue is settled according to the WP rules but if you would like to go on with it, please do I would like to find out how Mesut Ozil wasn't notable as a professional Bundesliga player until 2007 or the fact that he received a reputable award related to his roots does not contribute anything at all to his notability. Thank you   02:34