PSPS It must be troubling - you ban for it - to know that the holocaust stands on such shaky legs ( burning fat ladies - at least I have to give you credit of knowing where the weak - but essentail points are). I hope you do know that "no holes no holocaust" is no more essential than " burning fat ladies.. ie there was nowhere near enough fuel to cremate that many people without the "burning fat ladies". I had always hoped that the technical impossibilities would influence some, but I keep hearing the "soap" story making its rounds every so often so I guess the "some" that can handle science are readily replaced with "some" others who have trouble with numbers and books.