Although I didn't write that part of the article, the context of this is as some type of lots that were cast. It is tradition (however reliable that is) that U&T; were more of a divine name for the casting of lots. Therefore when matthias was chosen by the casting of lots, some feel that it was done by urim and thummin. Not by the urim and thummin. Perhaps  00:18, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)