"==Hitohiro Saito==
Hitohiro Saito, the son of Morihiro Saito, was a child when he trained with Ueshiba. I see no reason to quote his memories of osensei. There are dozens of osensei's students we could rather quote, but let's stay out of that. / 

Uchi-deshi
The new piece on notable uchi-deshi needs to be fleshed out.  

Biography
I would like to see the biography expanded a bit while avoiding style or author specific references.  It's a bit redundant when the points are made elsewhere - about 20% of Ueshiba's Biography was talking about Saito and Ueshiba's son each which have their own entries.  The links are adequet for finding the information.  

I expanded the biography being careful not to exclude information already there. 

 Would someone adress why in the section on Deguchi there is very little information on his encounter
 with the chinese army, I mention this because I believe the ""dodging balls of white light"" story 
should be first in the section of ""awakenings "" 
that led to the roots of aikido. This story is very prevalent in aikdo literature 
and I wonder why it is not included.128.192.36.80  

 Soke Morihei Ueshiba 

I noticed that the ""Soke"" is the name for ""founder of a style"", (martial arts). Should Ueshibas article include this title?—Preceding unsigned comment added by  (talk • contribs) 

Absolutely not.  Soke is a title used by some Japanese martial arts to refer to the founder or head but I have never heard the term used in Aikido.  In Japan Ueshiba M. is sometimes referred to as Kaiso which means founder and in fact this term is far more commonly used than O sensei which seems to be a Western affection.  I have actually run into Aikidoists mortally offended by another art using the term O sensei as if it somehow slights Ueshiba M..  Both Kaiso and O sensei tend to be used primarily within the Aikikai and its newer derivatives.  In the older styles it is much more common to just hear Ueshiba sensei but then again they do not have the confusion of familial succession.  Personally I would like to see O sensei removed from the articles orther than a mention that some Aikidoists refer to him as such but I think that would raise a few hackels. 

Hackles be dammed I reduced the number of O sensei's in the text and clarified its usage a tad. I have never heard one Japanese Shihan use the term O sensei while in Japan.  Not saying they don't just that its not common. 

Well it's fine by me. I only asked because I noticed Gozo Shioda is referred to as ""Soke Gozo Shioda"" on the official Yoshinkan website. When I first saw it I figured that if Shioda had a ""Soke""-title then Ueshiba should too. Oh, by the way, my own aikido club (Ki-aikido) usually just say ""Ueshiba sensei"" or ""Ueshiba"". I cant actually remember anyone using the phrase O-sensei other than in a few introductionary speeches.
 

Interesting point about Yoshinkan I am more familiar with them using the term Kancho but it is their choice. Perhaps they didn't use Kaiso as not to confuse Shioda with Ueshiba.  Soke would not be a wrong usage for either man just in the case of Ueshiba it was not the term used.  I am going to ask a Yoshinkan Honbu Instructor his opinion on this.  At Shodokan Honbu (Tomiki's dojo) it is always Ueshiba sensei and interestingly Tomiki is always refered to as either Shihan or sensei - no other titles.  In Ki society how is Tohei sensei refered to?  

Tohei? Well I suppose it's mostly just ""Tohei-sensei"" and/or ""Tohei"" for mentionings in day to day training. (to say Tohei without the ""-sensei"" might sound disrespectful in Japan but it is not in Sweden )) As for the official, formal titles of both Koichi Tohei and Kenjiro Yoshigasaki I have no idea. My club belongs to the latters Ki no Kenkyukai Internationale organisation by the way.

 

 O-Sensei kanji 

Can anybody verify if the kanji for ""O-sensei""? This article says it is written as 翁先生, while the Sensei article says 大先生. I always