Gah, the whole thing is a mess.  FT2 seems to me to be about as bad as CheeseDreams, in terms of practical results (his insistence that he has some sort of authority over the content of the article as a mediator is especially annoying).  And now someone else has come in and says that the clearly horrible "To those who believe in him, Jesus" opening is better than the "According to the Gospels, Jesus" one?  Gah...at this point, I don't even know what to say, this seems to be pure process fetishism.  k 20:18, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)