Likewise, how could John Adams be both the 2nd President of the United States and also be the 6th, his own son?! We're through the looking glass, folks! 76.197.135.117  

Have started to expand this article and put neutral pov. The earlier links were inappropriate. Requires a lot more work, and careful treatment of how the family members are distinguished and referenced.  09:37, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)