OK - you just intimated that I called him a Nazi.  You didn't actually say that.  I said originally that the DM published a piece that reckoned Arbeit Macht Frei was appropriate under some circumstances, e.g. in modern-Britain for people without work, and I think I gave a reference/date.  I hate that paper - yes, hate.  It supported Nazis before the war and papers like that in Germany on the conservative reactionary right helped Hitler to power.  My depth of loathing is based on close knowledge of what happened in Germany, to all sorts of people, and my Jewish East End roots.  It is still reactionary - it's not a normal paper that just "leans to the right" and it pumps out nasty bile that I'd like people to see for what it is.  BUT I set about it the wrong way - I was a bit childish in posting the comment on C's page.  That said, have a look through his history, like you have had a butcher's at mine, and you will see that he's sucked loads of people into arguments and blocking threats and counter-threats and controversy. Best -