Many thanks, Tony, for your prompt reply. I have sent another message to Victor and hope he will respond on the Buddhism talk page. I actually think it is down to him to make a move as he must feel strongly if he keeps unilaterally reverting the page back. However, 'one is a lonely number' so maybe he feels unsupported, which is perhaps where we come in. I will think over what my concerns might be although I did enumerate a few to Victor in my second msg in a nudge and wink kind of way rather than stating them too overtly. I dearly wish that genuine consensus can emerge. kind regards Peter morrell