@Shiitalker - I get it. The 2012 page is about all the doomsday bullcrap and the "truth" about 2012 doesn't belong on that page at all. The fact that Jenkins is hyping 12.21.2012 as the "end date" qualifies him to be featured on that page. He is truly a disengenous charlatan. I really do get it. Interested in starting a page about the authentic Maya forecasts as documented in the Dresden Codex? There are astronomical facts in the codex for events in 2012. This is all "scientifically" verifiable. The numbers do not lie. Are you deep enough into Buddhism to understand what a "terma" is? Some of the major dates in the codex happen to coincide with events in the life of Padmasambhava. ~*~ M ~*~