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 Underhanded? Not at all. I've been entirely forthcoming in this discussion, just like I am in all of my discussions. I think you may be confusing underhandedness with fairness. If you are, then you have a point. But everyone should have the decency and discretion to keep families out of the discussion. For example, I never have and will never discuss Greg's family. To that extent, my discretion is as rock solid. To argue that families are somehow fair game would betray a complete lack of integrity, IMO.  "