I understand. I guess Editors who remain indefinitely blocked after due consideration by the community are considered "banned by the Wikipedia community" makes it clear, tho I have to admit I am uncomfortable with the lack of nuance between "indef blocked due to lack of consensus to unblock" and a formal banning, but in the end they are the same. For the record I agree with the block/ban, but am just a nut when it comes to nuance. 140.247.141.165