Well indeed, Boing! said Zebedee, that is the ideal, but unfortunately it is not the case on the acupuncture talk page at all. Every single editor is clearly and transparently pushing an agenda, even the ones who claim not to be, like WLU. But their autocratic and automatic objection to the publishing of any source which supports acupuncture, yet their gleeful eagerness to promote sources which disparage acupuncture belies their affected innocence.