You see the problem arrisses in that most people dont see how 'just something else' is a fact, when you give no reasoning. Just like you made a comment about my statement, its only fair that i ask 'How are they not Nu Metal when they share the same musical propertys? How are they 'something else' when they fit the description of Nu Metal?'. Wesley already knows that the genre needs a description, otherwise its violating the policy about drawing a distinction without drawing a distinction. Alls i ask for, as so the article isnt deleted, is that it has a defination. Otherwise its effectivly just a list that goes on about the progenitorial history of Nu Metal.