You are using hyperbole here, and poorly at that. No one wishes to indef ban any of your group from Wikipedia (at worst, a restriction barring the usual actors on either side from commenting on each other or the situation). I've offered solutions, to try to move forward. I could have easily let the thread die (as I said.. there was no consensus for either widening or loosening the current restrictions on Brews ohare), which would have been status quo for the foreseeable future. Instead I offered a way forward, and we'll see where it goes from there.