Node, I want to say sorry if you consider that I say to Jose as a personal attack against you. It was not my intention. Still no amount of consensus here would change anything on the Uighur or Hawaiian wiki, so I would suggest to move your argument there it matters - either to these wikis or to the Meta. I have no authorities over these places, so you have to go there by yourself. On English Wiki this argument is empty that does not help to build English-language encyclopedic content, you welcome  to keep civil discussion here but I would not tolerate any incivility here, not from you nor from Jose.