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 == B-sides section == 
 Yeah so, i created a B-side section after the discography, to stop people from coming in here and going ""My friend found this song and he says its disturbed, but it's not on any of their albums so i wondered if it was really them"" etc..  

  

  
 == Last Paragraph/Disturbed songs in video games == 
 The last paragraph of this article (Disturbed has since garnered a more respectable reputation...) really sucks and needs to be re-worded. Whether or not the band has ""garnered a more respectable reputation"" with anybody is an issue of debate, and the paragraph seems merely to be an excuse to list what games the band has songs on the soundtracks of. There already is a list of Disturbed songs on game soundtracks so i'm deleting that horrible last paragraph.  

  
 ==Fails WP:WEASEL== 
 This sentence that seems to have been added by a bitter death metal or similar fan simply isn't NPOV, vertifiable or factual. There is no evidence to prove that genuine heavy metal fans (ie- people who specifically were fans of the original bands in the 1970s) have a problem with Disturbed or any other similar bands which make up part of those subgenres. 
 :""There is still much debate on whether the band should be considered heavy metal, as many fans of the genre do not consider Disturbed a part of it."" 

 There is clear use of WP:WEASEL words with ""many fans of the genre"", yet no vertifiable citations. Whether teenage fans of part of another (commerically un-notable) subgenThere is no evidenceThere is no evidencere death metal (that alot of the original heavy metal fans argue is unrelated to heavy metal itself) dislike the band or not really has no place in an encyclopediac article (especially the opening section) of a million album selling act.  

 Removal of the tags placed before these issues have been brought within Wikipedia policies that I pointed they fail, will be considered simple vandalism. -   

 There is also no evidence that only ""Extreme Metal"" fans have a problem with Disturbed or any other similar bands which make up part of those sub genres. Claiming that is a non NPOV and extremely bias.  You're basing it all on what you personally think and feel. Like PhantomOTO said on the Mallcore talkpage, you seem to think that the fans the styles are warring factions, when to the contrary it couldn't be farther from the truth. When are you gonna realize that just because you and your buddies think ""Extreme Metal"" genres aren't unrelated to heavy metal, it doesn't mean all do. There are many who while not fans of the genres, still consider them related. There are also many who are fans of more traditional metal and fans of ""extreme metal"" (myself included). You seem to base a lot of your edits regarding metal on personal opinion and not fact.   
 :I also know of many Traditional Metal fans who hate Disturbed and like bands, and do not cosider them metal.   

 :""ie- people who specifically were fans of the original bands in the 1970s"" Quit acting as though these are the only metal bands in existence. The sentence was a result of editorial consensus, as Inhumer said, and the way it is now is fine as well. It really isn't vandalism to restate something generally agreed upon here. ""You seem to base a lot of your edits regarding metal on personal opinion and not fact."" Bingo. ""that alot of the original heavy metal fans argue is unrelated to heavy metal itself"" Isn't that weasel words right there? Manowar, who invented this entire ""true metal"" thing, state that death and black metal are both genres of true metal. Here's a cite for you: ""I like all extreme metal, I like all death metal, I like black metal, I like all of that. As long as it's from the heart and it's pure and it's heavy, it's good. I don't like any of this nu metal shit, it's just complete shit.""  Joey DeMaio, Manowar.   
 :Try this one too: 
 On the fact that die-hard heavy metal fans may not see Disturbed as being quite heavy enough: 
 ""We probably have too much melody going on or we're not quite as turbulent or caustic. While I really love that type of music, it's not what we try to do. If we have to place things in context, we're more hard rock than heavy metal these days."" 
 Are you done yet?  04:1