::::::Is he? My point is that we all know he thinks that the models don't correspond with reality—but it isn't obvious if that is what he means by that specific quote. He doesn't say "the models don't correspond with reality", he says "the models aren't reality". There's a big difference between them; the latter statement could just as easily be uttered by someone who feels that the models do correspond with reality. Regardless of whether one feels that a certain model corresponds with reality or not, it is a truism that the model isn't reality (or evidence, for that matter).