, 11 January 2007 (UTC) 

 ::: Nah, I disagree.  First, of course "subjective" means anecdotal!  How else would you be able to describe the effects of drugs?  It is not as though a person who takes a hallucinogen, for example, can provide "objective" video proof of the hallucinations they say they saw.  We just have to take their word for it.  Further, nobody really disputes that the effects of salvinorin are dissociative.  A dissociative is a type of drug that consistently meets a particular subjective description that includes Salvinorin, just as the word "blue" can refer to thousands of unique shades of color, all of which are different, but still blue.  It's not clear cut as, say, whether or not the Salvinorin molecule contains a nitrogen atom, in which case it either does or it does not.  Until someone prominently espouses a point of view that Salvinorin is not a dissociative, then let's not be so picky.  It's a dissociative.  04:45