:::My apologies, I did not check the archives, being a liberal does have some shortcomings as you don't get to know the hard stances of conservatives lol. I just thought that calling a person the "founder" of a religion was the "default" for all prophets, but there appears to be quite a  can of worms. Anyway, I'll leave that be, but can't we move around the text a little so that the starting lines tell what the muslims consider him to be? Afterall he is considered a prophet by the muslims.