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 ::Sorry, I didn't notice the addition' (not a change  as the URL was still to Bradshaw's site) of the Origins connection when I deleted. Still, while a slightly less unreliable source than Bradshaw's website this is hardly a cast-iron source by any stretch of the imagination, and this is still simply one obscure creationist making the description (as well as being a collective'' description, not a specific one). It is WP:UNDUE weight to include it in the article at all (as both the author and the publication have little or no prominence), let alone in the lead, as well as unacceptably failing to attribute it to being only this one obscure creationist's opinion, and to correctly characterise it (as only including him in a table, not calling attention to him specifically).  "