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 ::Question:  
 how to become a real punk girl? chinese fan 
 asked by v_v on 10/07/06   
 Answer:  
 Punk is a way of life. It's political. It's a lot deeper than most people know... and I am not punk. I like some punk rock music, and I like some punk rock fashion, and that's about as far as it goes with me. 
 answered by Avril on 10/07/06 
  7:30 AM, November 12th 2006 (UTC) 

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 Huh? Pop? Pop punk? If you ask me, Avril is more punk rock than Green Day (damn it! just listen to American Idiot) even due they have more guitars). Well my point is that sure, Avril is not GG Alin, but saying she's Pop is a lie. I've removed it, discuss about it here   

 :""Pop"" means popular.  She's popular, ergo she's 'pop'.  Stop removing it, we've had this debate many times before. 
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 Pop punk is a good categorization. Avril is less punk than Slayer, and Slayer is thrash metal. 
 : WHen has Avril done ANYTHING that has to do remotley with punk rock? Why does the article perist to classify her as a Canadian Punk Rock singer? Mabey she's not a ""pop"" singer. But can we use the term ""rock singer"" or just ""singer""? She has nothing to do with Punk besides her image. 

  
 1. Listen to 1,039/Smoothed-Out Slappy Hours. That is pop-punk. 
 2. Lavigne says she's not punk. Her music is clearly not punk. Ergo, she's not punk. 
 3. ""Pop"" does not mean popular. It is short for ""popular"", true; ""prog"" is short for ""progressive"", which it isn't. Pop Music is what is meant by ""pop"". Avril Lavigne sings to pop music. 
 4. Lavigne describes herself as a pop musician (It's in the article, guys!) Avril is pop. 
 5. I'm changing this to say ""pop"".   

 I have removed pop. Pop stands for Pop music, not popular music. As for as I know Avril is not a pop singer. Even if she does claiming to be pop, I don't care. Britney Spears can say she's Heavy Metal and we won't change the genre. There's a thing called publicity. None of Avril's songs is pop, therefore Avril is not a pop singer. p 
 ::Why not just make it ""CHR/pop"" and be done with it?  Or just change it to ""Top 40"".  Doing so would end this little argument once and for all.  I don't get why so many people act like ""pop"" is a swear word.  

 Sorry, it takes more than clothes to be punk, and as far as I can tell she doesn't even dress that way anymore. It should be changed to pop. 

 :She's Pop Rock or just pop. I definantly wouldn't classify songs like ""Anything But Ordinary"" as rock, or pop-rock for that matter. Songs like Who knows, My Happy Ending and Sk8er Boi are pop rock. There is no punkness in her.   

 == Neutrality, Cleanup == 

 Would the person responsible for putting the Neutrality and Cleanup headers on the article please say why they did this?  It's not enough by far to put up these messages without saying why.   

  

  

  

 == Pic == 

 The new one is an official photograph. The other one is a blurry photograph taken from a concert. This one is better.  

 :It doesn't matter if it's ""official"", we have an adequate free image. This is about how blurry it would need to be to warrant having to use a fair use image.  
 ::Then find a better fair use picture. Wikipedia articles should be of the highest quality, not what is merely 'adequate'. And quit vandalizing the other picture. It does have copyright status, even