, 16 August 2005 (UTC) 

 :::: Keith, the dispensationalist advocates of the doctrine of perseverance mean to distinguish their view from the Reformed view.  They believe that Calvinism is wrong.  They aren't confused.  They are on your side!  Listen to Zane Hodges, in his treatment of 2 Peter 1:5-11: 
 :::: A careful consideration of the context of these remarks shows that they are not supporting the Reformed Doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints. Indeed, they actually support the opposite conclusion, that believers in Christ are secure forever, whether they add Christian character qualities to their faith or not. What is at stake, here, as we shall see, is not kingdom entrance, but abundant kingdom entrance. 
 :::: The doctrine of eternal security, and once saved always saved, are not the same as the Calvinist doctrine.  19:19