:::::Jehochman: I returned to speed of light because some items could be clarified, and some were. I also raised some metrology issues on the Talk page that were apparently "hot buttons" and as a result Blackburne persuaded Sandstein to block my further participation altogether, regardless of the positive accomplishments obtained on other matters on this page. IMO if further discussion wasn't of interest, the better action would be to leave me in a corner talking to myself. There is no need to engage on a thread where you think a crackpot is babbling. The complaints about the Centrifugal force contribution are, in fact ‘frivolous’, and are not supported by the three other editors I mentioned. The hostile reaction of DVdm and Blackburne to innocent requests for explanation of their views is ‘vexatious’ on their part.  I do not have a posse of friends, and characterizing the views of those that share my opinion in this way is simply to denigrate all contrary opinion as somehow "less" than the contrary views. I do not think you can justify the notion that these editors are simply acting out of some loyalty to me regardless of the facts: a little investigation of the record shows that isn't so.