== H. North == 

 JGGardiner, As I want to avoid the whole H. North discussion and try to leave ammunition for either side away, I am writing to you directly. You seem like a nice person and sincerely want people to work out their differences on the Hollywood North page. You also seem to be fair with both sides of the issue. But I must get a few things straight, I never said DEYS was canvasing. What I said was: "some may consider this canvasing" and as other have thought so, my point was made. I do not think that what DEYS did was canvasing, it is borderline, but canvasing requires more than a couple posts. It is a large and disruptive campaign. Similarly, that is why I never filed any complaints against Skookum1 for his similar actions, I didn't think it rose to that level. Maybe 6-10 would do it, but I am only aware of DEYS posts on mine and NorCalHistory's pages. Aditionally, the guidline against canvasing is meant to protect the people canvassed, not those being canvassed against. In this case it is meant to protect me and NorCalHistory from being dragged into something we don't want to get involved with. Anyway, two is not canvasing, or three like I found on Skookum1. In both cases it is bad faith and poor behavior. Please note I am not defending DEYS, as his/her actions are completely out of line, but so are some others like the Langora College person. I would have expected an apology from them to DEYS once someone verfied the user guide source, but no incivility reigns. Instead an excuse, which is not in anyway an appology. But this is neither here nor there for me, as I do not get involved with things just to spout my opinion or defend America, I only take on innaccuracies, and the bullies. I cannot defend someone who has acted just as poorly as the rest, that's why my one original post to the H. North talk page only made a comment on the content (and I believe it was a fair assesment), not about the actions of the editors. It's not my fight. For fairness they should make the whole article a redirect to an article civility. Again, I'm not attacking you or anyone, I just want to clear up the canvassing issue.