::::Thanks for your kind vote of confidence  but following some of the rhetoric I have been on the recieving end of, I'm now afraid to try anything! I'd like to swap out "retrieved" with accessed and thought that by putting the access date in parenthisis, it would distinguish it from the text coming before it  as well as give each reference a less cluttered look.  I know that this is a somewhat different format than what is currently at the article. My hope, as a new editor, is to see Wikipedia continue to evolve in so many positive ways. I guess there is the part of me that believes that anything and everything can be open for improvement/evolution.  If this were not so, then women would not have the right to vote and this country would still have slavery. So much for my philosophy.  Anyway  what should I do?  And BTW, do you think it would be possible, somewhere down the road, to for me, or you, or someone to add some of the links  like the domestic violence one I wrote about when I sent you all those file attachments?? Best Wishes,