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 ==Suggested way forward== 
 After my recent XF-104 tribulations I just had a good read through this article again. It looks like it needs a good clean up before anything else is added, some of it is very good (operators) and some of it is quite bad (pilot impressions).  
 With the XF-104 article apparently staying I would propose to shorten the development part as the text is duplicated to some extent (I did say I had copied it over) and add a sub heading for YF-104A development programme which was the real start of the F-104 in service to replace the missing development text(to be expanded in good time). Instead of 'design' perhaps 'technical description' of the typical F-104G would be better. 
 A new section on 'safety record' to merge the existing comments and work on it to put the figures in to context. From my research the majority of Luftwaffe accidents were CFIT (controlled flight into terrain) or engine exhaust nozzle failures followed by the usual bird strikes, spatial disorientation etc. Can we put a 'pie chart' in to illustrate this? I have a list of every German accident and its cause for instance which might open some eyes. Have to say thanks to all the contributors along the way but the article has become fairly messy. Last thought, you can always revert if you want to! Cheers   

 :I'm having a go at tidying this article, the production table is confusing and is in error by some 48 aircraft (probably does not include the last batch built by MBB). I will try to make a better one.    

 ::Good suggestions Nubis (LOL)! Lots of people with different styles do lead to a little inconsistency and lack of tidiness, so a ""single hand"" at the wheel ought to straighten things up a bit...I know that you've been wanting to get to grips with this one for a while; so best of luck!    

 :::Just about done the production table in the sandbox, should go in soon, would like to do another for the operators, hopefully it is not too much info. The worse bit is the Pilot impressions section, I have several accounts of the actual handling qualities (one from Roland Beamont who didn't like it), once it's tidied a bit there needs to be a new section on 'Safety record' or something similar where the facts can be shown. I really don't like the nicknames section either although many of those names are accepted, perhaps it needs better referencing (I have no reference to the Italian names apart from 'Spillone' which I believe is 'hatpin' for instance). There is no mention of the ZELL (Zero Length Launch) programme which is fascinating. I think this article could be a GA with some work. Cheers    
 
 ::::Good progress I think, we really need an article created for the MAP, Military Assistance Program or Military Aid Program whatever it was called as it is mentioned many times in this article. I can't find anything on it in WP unless I am looking in the wrong place. Was quite a significant program I would guess. I am toying with the idea of changing the operator air force names to their own language equivalents (Koninklijke Luchtmacht for the Netherlands for instance). It won't work for all of them, is there a convention?    

 :::::Good work so far, Nimbus. It's amazing what can happen when disruptive influences are finally removed. As to operator name language, the usual convention has been to use English equivelants, as in most cases that is also the name of the article on said operator. The notable execption is Luftwaffe. I see no problem, however, listing the native language equivelant at first mention in the text, after the English name. For example: The F-104 was used by the Royal  Netherlands AIr Force (Koninklijke Luchtmacht) from 1234-5678. 

 :::::Yea, looking much better. I believe the Mil History style guide says to use the English translation/equivalent for names in other languages.  See WP:MHMOS for that. -   

 Carriage return, kerching! Apologies for the blank spaces and I know the images are not in the right places now either, I have been at this for 12 hours now but it's getting there. I am developing a new safety record section in my sandbox which is necessarily quite long, just a bit worried that the whole article will end up too long but then again it was a fairly significant type worth a page or two. Will stick with English air force names, can't spell Koninkly Luktmakt anyway! Is it worth tagging this