== Date range format == 

 Bagumba-  The discussion about date ranges at MOS appears to be going nowhere again.  I think it would be best if we could reach some sort of closure on this.  I respect your knowledge of Wikipedia policy and process and am interested in your advice on how to "get there."  Would an RfC be the way to go?  My concern is that without changes in MOS wording one way or the other this issue will crop up every few months and I worry that the MOS Talk page discussions will usually deadlock because the claim is that we sports guys dig in too hard on the way we do things, and my counter to that would be that the MOS guys have a pretty vested interest in NOT making significant changes to MOS.  I think some sort of impartial facilitator or wider discussion would be in order but I am not sure how to proceed.  I think it is odd that MOS would outright forbid a date format that exists all over the "real world."  As you know, it is also used on 1000s of sports articles, as well as political articles, etc.  But honestly, I'd settle for clarity so that I can just focus on writing and editing articles.  Any advice?