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 ==The Karel and JoyDiamond Chronicles== 
 The following is regarding the Charles Karel Bouley article and the editing thereof. 

 === FYI ( 1)=== 

 - - Pulmonary embolism (PE) is a blockage of the main artery of the lung or one of its branches by a substance that has traveled from elsewhere in the body through the bloodstream (embolism). Usually this is due to embolism of a thrombus (blood clot) from the deep veins in the legs, a process termed venous thromboembolism 

 - - Arterial emboli are usually a complication of heart disease where blood clots form in the heart's chambers.''Bold text' An arterial embolism may be caused by one or more clots. The clots can get stuck in an artery and block blood flow. The blockage starves tissues of blood and oxygen, which can result in damage or tissue death (necrosis). 

 - - Arterial emboli often occur in the legs and feet. Some may occur in the brain, causing a stroke, or in the heart, causing a heart attack. A common source for an embolus is from areas of hardening (atherosclerosis) in the aorta and other large blood vessels. 

 - - My husband died from a pulmonary embolism shortly after Andrew died from an cardiac arterial embolism. There is a significant difference. Educate yourself. I live with it's consequences. JoyDiamond (talk)  

 :As someone who was a NREMT-Paramedic (ACLS certified) for more than a decade, I'm certain I'm more acquainted with all of the above than you are from an academic *and* experiential level. How many people have you brought back from the brink of cardiac death with the administration of IV medications, manual CPR, mouth-to-mouth (no mask) resuscitation, and electro-shock, Ms. Diamond?  

 :Nevertheless, the article is the issue, not whether either of us needs to be educated on cardiac, pulmonary, and vascular conditions. The Karel article has stated for months - maybe a year or more - that Mr. Howard succumbed due to a pulmonary aneurysm (not embolism as you so painstakingly and incorrectly noted above and on FD's talk page). Strangely, you've never had an issue with that statement until now. Suddenly, you decided to change it based on your statement, ""pulmonary is LUNGS. Death certificate says heart failure"". Apparently, regardless of what reasoning you are claiming now (and your masters in medical sociology not withstanding), you were not so clear yesterday on the fact that a pulmonary aneurysm is not about the ""LUNGS"", but is cardiac in nature. Today, you're a expert. Go figure.  

 :But here's the crux of the matter: unless you have a citable reference that states unequivocably what Mr. Howard's cause of death was (and even Karel has been quoted in pre-lawsuit interviews that he died from AIDS), there's no reason to believe that what you claimed is more correct than what is now in the article. Let me try and make this clear - the issue here is the article and it's accuracy - NOT what you think you know, NOT what your husband died from, and NOT your ridiculous imaginings that I wrote what I did in order to bring pain to you or Karel Bouley. If you have a citable reference, bring it - but so far, the majority of your changes to this one and only Wikipedia article have been based on personal knowledge, have been non-encyclopedic and completely unreferenced. Unreferenced claims are to be removed - *that* is a Wikipedia standard.  

 :Now, I'm not exactly sure what your point was in putting the above on my talk page (especially since you incorrectly posted info on ""embolism"" when the article previously stated ""aneurysm""). However, unless you have something constructive and helpful to post, don't feel you are welcome there ever again. If you do post there again, I will consider it a form of online harassment and will take the appropriate, associated action in line with Wikipedia policy. SkagitRiverQueen (talk)  

 :: [THE FOLLOWING WAS ADDED BY  TO 's TALK PAGE IN RESPONSE TO HIS COMMENTS RE:THIS EDITING DEBATE] 

 ::RE: Warning 
 ::Dear FeralDruid Thank you for your efforts. You are much appreciated. Again, I rarely edit unless someone points out an inaccuracy. This inevitably results in unpleasant discourse with Skag and as of today: threats. Please see my talk page. You will find more misinformation and fallacious comments, i.e. Karel has NEVER said Andrew died of AIDS. I am not going to bother commenting further, too many egregious inaccuracies. This has been an especially painful exchange. I have learned a lot from you and expect that will continue should I be so adventures as to dare to edit. TY again. JoyDiamond (talk) '' 

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