:I saw that removal and agreed with it, which is why I didn't address it. The problem with that website isn't, in this case, its reliability or lack of it as the case may be, but that it is a type of site that specifically is mentioned in WP:ELNO. Forums aren't permitted as external links, whether used as a main body reference or at the external links section and likely would have been removed quite soon by automatic bot had Chronie not caught it. So in short, no, even posting a scan at the forum wouldn't be permitted. One of the stumbling blocks that would keep this article from being promoted to WP:GA or WP:FA would be some of the sourcing sites. The Tex Watson website wouldn't fall under the policies for WP:SELFPUB because it is being used to source content about Watson himself and is free access to the book he wrote and was published, but much of the rest would have to resourced. Links to archives of the tripod site, mansonfamilytoday.info, 2violent.com, mansondirect, and charliemanson.com would all have to be resourced if a nomination was made now. Since I think we all mutually, if not silently, agreed not to pursue GA or FA, some of the sites you mention above do remain and perhaps rightfully so, since as you said, the content is too important to omit in consideration of a higher Wikipedia rating. If the scans of the testimony themselves were available independent of the forum, it would probably be acceptable under the circumstances that we accept these other sites. Weighing the accuracy of those sites is certainly a consideration, but in this case, it is the site itself that is the problem. My 2 cents worth.