::::: Toniher, I do not think I question the very templates. I just question their inclusion in some articles. By this, I mean that just because events long ago had influence still felt to this day in a region doesn't mean they are THAT relevant to the article. And if anything, it should be the other way around: having in the article about things today (in this case things Catalan), a reference to things from long ago (in this case these wars). I look once again at the template and I do not see why someone wanting to read about historic events from Europe 300 years ago would want a template in the article with links to Castells · Correfocs · Myths and legends · Generalitat de Catalunya · Generalitat Valenciana · Salvador Dalí · Joan Miró, etc. And again, if the issue is one of recency, please allow me to give you another example more recent: imagine the article about WWII. Coudn't by the same reasoning then one want to include there a template about its effect in the Eastern European Countries (and one would then have in that template all the countries, the artists, the legends, etc, of those countries). Now, having WWII had such impact in other things, one could include there a template for the country of Israel and the Jewish culture and another template for France, etc. Or what about having templates for all the countries impacted by the Napeleonic Wars? I am not sure I am explaining myself well, but IMO a template that does not really fit the article and tries to promote someothing else distracts from the actual topic being touched and amounts to a promotional attempt of the other topics (in this case the Catalan world). Again, I could want trying to promote reading all kind of things about the Philippines by inserting a template that draws readers to Filipino artists by inserting a similar template in the article about the Spanish-American War. Of course it would be unfair doing so inless we also included two more templates: one for the Spanish Speaking countries and another for the USA. Yes, templates that would have modern day artists from the USA and Cuba and Spain, and ... Somehow I foresee I will loose this debate. Again, this is all just my POV -) Cheers.