"== Dr. Cream == 

 Although listed here, Dr. Thomas Neil Cream did not have an attaching article until I made one today. 

 I noticed he was under the USA. I have moved him to the UK. This could cause some minor debate as he was an international serial killer. Dr. Cream was born in Scotland, raised in Canada, commited his first murders in the USA and then several more in England, where he was caught and hanged. Does he go under UK, Canada or USA?  

 I put him under UK. Maybe he should have an entry under the USA too, I'm not sure. I think he should  be in the UK because he claimed most of his victims there, and was executed there. I've made his travels and multi-nationality evident in the article I've created for the cross-eyed sicko, so hopefully that will satisfy anyone who might grumble at my decision regarding his repatriation to the Eastern side of the Atlantic Ocean. If not, type any disagreements below. Ta. Robert, 21 December 2004  

 == Misc. discussion == 

 I've removed the additional line at that top that said ""Note that some confessions and convictions have been disputed as inaccurate."" This only applies to a few killers, Henry Lee Lucas in particular; the additional sentence had been evidently placed by the same person who is on some sort of crusade to posthumously exonerate him on the basis of just a single source (they also completly re-edited Lucas's entry.) - 11 December 

 == Lavrenty Beria (Russia) == 
 why is Lavrenty Beria not a serial killer? 

 :I removed: Lavrenty Beria, (1899 - 1953) Russian official and serial killer. 
 :Beria does not fit the usual definition of serial killer. He acted in a professional capacity, without much to demonstrate that he did so for personal pleasure or gain (except for power). I note that if we include all who killed or ordered to kill large numbers of people in a professional capacity, most generals involved in wars would top the numbers.   

 ::I thought the same, until I read the Lavrenty Beria article further (see the section ""Personal character""). It seemes that he was both a ""professional killer"" and a ""serial killer"". I'm guessing most general's in wars don't bury their own kill in their own homes!   

 :::Well, I'm somewhat unconvinced. See: some very unpopular person is disgraced by the regime, given a mock trial, then somebody writes a book 50 years later claiming he also was a serial rapist and killer.. I mean, sounds like nobody will defend him. 
 :::I'll reinstate him in the list with some warning.   

 ::::I see what you mean. A good compramise until/if any strong evidence is found for either side.   

 == Washington Snipers == 
 It's also missing the Washington snipers. 

 :So add them.   

 == List order == 
 Is this list in any sort of order? It looks pretty random.  Perhaps some order could be created and explained in the article. —   

 :It seems to be in (or to have been at one point) roughly alphabetical order (with occasional errors). Chronological would be better, I suppose. -   

 ::Hi, I recently sorted the serial killers list by countries. I would love to sort the names alphabetically too and writing the names like LASTNAME Firstname. Would this be okay? 

 ::Greetinx from Austria 
 ::eliZZZa 

 :::I'd suggest not putting last name first, as that doesn't read as well. It was supposed to be in alphabetical order (by last name or by first part of pseudonym) but got messed up here and there. 

 :::Sorting by country brings up some issues too though, like in which order the countries should be listed and what we do with people active in more than one country. 

 ::: 

 ::::How about putting the countries in Alphabetical order. And for the few serial killers that have operated in more than one country - just list them under both with a comment explaining so...    

 :::::I like that, it's simple and organized. ]]  

 While it sounds logic to sort the countries alphabetically for me it is not too user-friendly. I am running crimeZZZ.net & victimZZZ.net and I list more than 50 coun