:See "but in Judaism's view, Jesus would be the same as Mohammed, Alexander the Great or Buddha or you" is sort of what I thought. However "bones ground to dust", etc seems a bit more hostile. The view I got from reading the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia was that, if the gospels are accurate, Jesus was similar to the Essenes except that he claimed more personal authority than them. Also that he may have been delusional, or was at least believed to be so, and that the Messiah can't be executed. (Also uncertainty about Davidic ancestry) I think the problem I've always had with the article is it makes Judaism, especially of Jesus's time, sound more uniform than I think it is in reality. However I'm not Jewish, I don't even have strong friends who are Jewish, so I usually am uncertain how to express that. I fear I end up sounding like I'm on the "Messianic Judaism" groups side, but that's not accurate. I don't see how anything could embrace Jesus as the Messiah, except maybe in an Ebionite form, and still be Judaism. Anyway I did intend to leave this place, but every now and again I feel the urge to say something.