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 First of all, I respect all your positions, even if this discussion is not about that. We are arguing about the non-acceptance of very important new information about AIDS Denialism. But let's do this step by step. 

 DOUGWELLER: I think you haven't read entirely my previous answers. I already admited that I erased/added some terms or paragraphs which you and other editors concluded they are certain and correct. About the quotes you are mentioning, of course I do have references, even I gave you in previous answers some of them, incluiding MD James Chin, former director of statistics in the WHO, claiming that "AIDS statistics are manipulated..." and more stuff, if I'm not mistaken. Obviously, in the editing I never added that, since by every minute I was trying to upload new information, someone kept on deleting it. I have studies and interviews of world's leading people who admits and proves that statistics are manipulated. MD Gordon Stewart (I gave you one of his works before) is one of them. But of course, you may all think these are "non-referential sources" so... 

 By the way: you are saying "this is not an article about the causes of AIDS". Wrong! Terribly Wrong!. This IS an article about the causes of AIDS by the dissident scientists. NONE OF THEM ever said that "AIDS is not a pathology". What they discuss, ipso facto, is "which is the cause or causes of AIDS". So, once again (and I'm not insulting your intelligence or anything by saying this) you buried yourself. Nonetheless, I think you make this false steps by good faith, not because you want to be mean or something. And I really think we can collaborate each other improving this article, transform it into something reliable and neutral without taking any position. I have many references, plenty of them. But how would I know if you will or not will accept them?? That's the problem. 

 MASTCELL: It is a collaborative endeavor. Right! So, as I gave you referenced and important information about this subject, why the erasure?? Still no answer. You would have made a better, a more proper collaboration by erasing what you think sounds or look "non neutral" but keeping those critical and undeniable facts I gave you and I can still give you. You talk about a "disregard of guidelines", well, every defense mechanism is valid. But yet is another evasive maneuver, a diversionary action rather than a collaborative endeavor. I have a proposal, and is this  

 *Add critical new (and not so new) information about Dissident theories, like Montagnier/Barre-Sinoussi cofactor's theories. 
 *Add the points of view of several scientifics who claim and reference by researches that AIDS statistics are manipulated. 
 *Try to reduce the "non-neutral" language we can find all over the original article. 
 *Add an updated list of Dissident Scientifics and Investigators or people who is sympathetic with them. 
 *Erase full threads of this article, like "Denialists who died of AIDS": that's a nonsense! As anybody can present here full evidences of denialists who since the beggining of the epidemic were diagnosed as "HIV positive" and they are alive. Even Christine Maggiore's mention is a sophism, as she survived almost 20 years with HIV (quite more than most of the people) without using drugs. 

 This is, concretely, what I'm asking. And I think does not violate any term or rule. Is just logic.