== Does Kershaw count? == 

 5 Aug 2010 I posted on Talk: Death of Adolf Hitler: (random questions) “I am not a scholar, I read Wiki but would not think of editing it. But I was disappointed in this article, and many points in the discussion, so I am asking some questions. Perhaps someone else will read and address them.99.41.251.5 (talk) ” 

 6 Aug 2010 I posted on Talk: Death of Adolf Hitler:  (random questions) “If I had read Kershaw's Nemesis Chapter 17 note 156 and Epilogue note 1 I wouldn't have wasted your time. You can't get much clearer than that. Should be required reading. Perhaps someone else should read them, and possibly edit the article. Thank you for your time.99.41.251.5 (talk) ” 

 7 Aug 2010 I posted on Talk: Death of Adolf Hitler:  (random questions) “I would like to direct people to the work of Ian Kershaw Hitler, 1939-1945: Nemesis ISBN 0393322521. Chapter 17 and the epilogue relate to this article. Please pay attention to his notes and sources. Be warned, his book Hitler: a Biography is a kind of digest which does not include these resources. Wm5200 (talk) ” 

 12 Aug 2010 Gwen Gale posted on Talk:Wm5200 (Talk:Death of Adolf Hitler) “Article talk pages are not meant as general forums or question boards about a topic. Moreover, they are not meant as outlets for your original thoughts on topics, even if you put those thoughts as questions. Please either start citing sources (along with thoughts about how to echo those sources in the text), or stop posting to Talk:Death of Adolf Hitler. If you would like to know more about how to deal with (and skirt) plagiarism worries on en.Wikipedia, you might have a look at Wikipedia:Plagiarism. Gwen Gale (talk)  

 The remark on plagarism was in answer to my concern about copying Kershaw and Joachimsthaler to the discussion.  Do you think that “Assume Good Faith” was being implemented? 

 12 Aug 2010 I posted on Talk:Wm5200 (Kershaw knows): “Joachimsthaler was a used paperback to be read while waiting in line. I throw many of these away, they can be so stupid and/or offensive, but this guy sounded good. So I tried to check him out. When I opened up Kershaw, I tripped over the Rosetta stone of dead Hitlerism. In two footnotes this brilliant man put everything in perspective. For the first time since I was in third grade, all the pieces fit. I have no answers, but I know who does. Nobody will listen. Every question south of Kershaw relates indirectly to either him or Joach. The answers have been on the shelf of the public library for ten years, yet Wiki will not listen. 
 I believe you have been an obstruction to any information which disputes your poison and Russian autopsy garbage. This same stuff happened before. You should be disciplined. I suppose it will be me who gets shut off. Always a pleasure doing business with you.Wm5200 (talk)  “ 

 Since 12 August 2010 I have been trying to get an admin (and other editors) to read these footnotes, and see if they may relate to the article Death of Adolf Hitler. For my efforts I have been dismissed, insulted, censored, and blocked.  Yet somehow, I still believe that these notes may have some bearing on “the article”. 

 I am now going to copy these two footnotes, to the best of my ability, and hope that there is one admin in Wiki who will read and deal with them. Gwen Gale not only won’t, but appears to be trying to supress them. 

 Thank you, here they come. 

 HITLER 1936-1945 NEMESIS by Ian Kershaw @2000 ISBN 0-393-04994-9 

 NOTES TO CHAPTER 17: EXTINCTION page 1037 

 156. Amtsgericht Laufen, Verfahren des Amtsgerichts Berchtesgaden zur Toderserklarung bzw. Feststellung der Todeszaeit von Adolf Hitler, testimony of Otto Gunsche, 19-21 June 1956, Bl.5-6, 8-9; testimony of Heinz Linge, 8-10 February 1956, Bl. 5-8; Joachimsthaler, 230, 232. The meticulous study of the testimony and forensic evidence by Joachimsthaler, 229-73, dispels doubt about the manner of death. The earliest accounts emanating from the bunker were that Hitler shot himself and Eva Braun had taken poison. Below (who left before the suicides) heard this as early as 6 May related by one of the guards attached to the bunker (PRO, London, WO208/3781, Fol. 5, interrogation of Nicolaus von Below, n.d.(but covering letter is of 22 June 1946)). Hugh Trevor-Roper was given the same information by Erich Kempka and Artur Axmann, who saw the bodies in situ, as well as by Martin Bormann‘s secretary Else Kruger. (PRO WO208/3790, Fol. 54 (Trevor-Roper’s handwritten note, on a chronology of events during the last days in the bunker).) The key witnesses give no indication that a shot was heard - counter to some of the unreliable stories (e.g. Michael A. Musmanno Collection, Duquesne  Un