:Grsz  perhaps it's my uber foul mood given some recent interactions.  Let me tell you how I endeavor to edit.  If I make a statement of my view of an application of policy, I try my best to make a statement that I believe.  And that if it were quoted back to me, in support  say  of the baseball team I like least  I would still come to the same conclusion.  And be happy for it to be quoted back at me.  Yesterday, not for the first time, I had an editor w/whom I had been dealing evidence quite dramatically that he was doing the opposite.  Completely result-oriented blather.  I know this because he accused me quite publicly and dramatically at an AN/I of disparaging two living people.  Only ... when it turned out that it was his colleague who had inserted the statement in a BLP  not me  he failed to make the same complaint about his colleague's mis-step.  Not a peep.  Despite my multiple entreaties.  So ... when I arrive at a page that feels to me like more of the same, I'm somewhat more direct that I might otherwise be.  Then again, I think of tended to be direct with you, so perhaps that is an overstatement in your case.  In any event  no, I don't feel that I own the page.  But I do feel that what I said is completely appropriate, and I'm troubled as I said to see two colleagues who always seem to be on the opposite side of these sorts of issues.  So, that's where I'm coming from.  And I thought I would signal that I feel strongly, so as not to confuse anyone as to whether I'm just looking for an intellectual discussion because I'm bored, or whether I feel deeply about the issue.  Anyway, apologies if I approached the county line of rudeness in my directness.  Best.