Really an idiotic thread in general. You have one moron ranting about how meat-eating amongst thinking beings must be the result of that universal bogeyman of insecure pseudo-intellectuals , the dreaded "Religion," people comparing carrots to fish, misplaced quotes from poorly translated Buddhist texts...You name it, you'll find it here. Wikipedia has become such a bore with this kind of shit going on behind every article, but this takes the cake. A debate between eleven East-European nationalists trying to decide the proper name of some suburb of Dubrovnik would make better reading than this garbage. Here's an idea: Why don't one of you find a fucking text and add some fucking content to this incredibly short stub of an article instead of wasting your time playing like pop-philosophizing on the talk page? Would sign in if I gave a shit anymore.