, 10 November 2010 (UTC) 
 :::::::It seems obviously rhetorical to me (as in "where's the beef"), probably as obvious as it is to you that the question is premised on the acceptance that Obama did release the birth certificate but that it was invalid.  Point taken, though.  We shouldn't include speculation either way.  Best to strike the word "rhetorically" in my proposal.  -   22:30