:Yeah, I think I'll suggest unclear as a compromise. A recurring problem (to me at least) is that the page is so lively that the issue gets thoroughly ignored and I don't want to double post... I'll just start a third topic about it. And now there's Tarhuna- I don't trust Voice of Russia, as it doesn't take me very long to find the numerous examples of their bias on Libya (for example, a typical "commentary" from them- http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/08/26/55216809.html, not to mention that their general following judging from the people who fblike them tends to be Russophiles and Western communists, many of whom seem to be pro-Gaddafi judging from wall picture statements on their facebook profiles...), though for the record, I wouldn't put Voice of America on Wikipedia as a source either... though I suppose there's little I can do because it would come off as WP:IDONTLIKEIT (aside from OR, exactly what Fovezer and the others are in my opinion guilty of with regard to Msallata). Thanks for your input, anyhow.