:Mr Toy put forward a  model for the formation of Loe Bar which is not accepted by geologists. The only date geologists will put on the formation of Loe Bar and similar bars such as at Swanpool is sometime after the last ice age. Archaeologists at Cornwall Archaeological Society and Historic Environment at Cornwall Council do not claim there was a harbour at Helston. Helston Council are very specific on the location of the harbour and the formation of Loe Bar – how did they know all that? Did someone witness it and write it down? Once something is written down and repeated it then becomes the "truth" whether it happened or not. This is what happened with Helston's supposed harbour. Where is the evidence?