Sorry I even bothered (big, big, yawn), to get involved with the thug and low life, on this talk page, or his apologists. Naturally no response to the points I made. What could they say? ...this one was about his MOTHER, (what a joke). Yeah, the mother who did a great job raising a primitive, thug, who has lots of money, and obviously not much more going for him. Ah, for the days of the Jean Beliveaus.