:::::Ah, I realized we can't change all the links to the VE guide just yet. Anonymous users still don't have access to VisualEditor! Such a shame. It's only a matter of time before this happens, and when it does we'll revisit the proposal. For now we'll stick with what we have.Did you say you were okay with changing the "full manual" link to H:MARKUP? The other issue with the book is that it goes well beyond wikimarkup, also documenting general Wikipedia best practices. I also worry if it is outdated, as much of the Book namespace seems to be. The idea behind Help pages should be to keep it really simple and brief, so I think H:MARKUP is fitting in this case. I have a long term goal of dumbing down all the other help pages, such as Wikipedia:Your first article. Out of all of the help pages I think WP:INTREF is the best example of how we should approach them. Brevity, easy navigation, illustrations, friendly wording, etc. —