, 2 December 2015 (UTC) 
 ::I might suggest that between the comments on this talk page, the RfC on its title, the deletion discussion, the multiple banner notices at the top, the "dubious" and "better source needed" flags on the article, that it should be clear that many editors are dissatisfied with the current article here, and see a need to make large changes. Even editors voting to keep the article last month brought up the need to merge where appropriate. Axxxion, you say the article has fundamental defects, so then why not help address them? Why wait? This is a reasonable proposal with reachable goals. ,  17:48