::You argue and resist with no attempt at any kind of compromise or solution. I tire of this worthless typing, "you are of course wrong" yea yea, I am working to improve the article, if that is wrong then I agree with you. You say it all "according to the guardian" it is not according to anything brown has said. Now' Barack Obama, there is a man that is religious and he will tell you exactly which church he is affiliated to, although you don't need him to tell you as he prays and goes to church all the time and talks about his religious beliefs. With Gordon Brown your strongest assertion that you have is that @@according to the guardian he is a member of the church of scotland'' .. not very strong is it?