:: Can I just say, the comparison between Manson and Collins is ludicrous. Collins is known for being a musician, Manson is known for being a murderer and a psychopath. Manson is only famous for negative reasons, but the point is that many independent sources have criticised Collins for his musical output and his work, which he fully acknowledges. Despite his huge success, Collins is not widely respected the music industry in the way of a Beatles, Elton John, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones etc. etc., that's why the significant criticism of him and his work is unavoidable for a comprehensive profile of the man.