"::The way the Encyclopedia Britannia gives the shorter length of the river and mentions the length of the Estuary.  It also uses Ireland and does not use British Isles.  This is not one where the position is clear in respect of BI, but it is clear for Ireland.  Sources differ and it rests on whether you include the estury length or not and so far no one has produced an authoritative source on that question.  If you want to be naive about SPA accounts like Van Speijk feel free but you have been around these pages long enough to know how these accounts emerge; I had thought better of you.      

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