::: PHG, what bothers me that is that you're trying to insist that an offhand comment during an interview, about a controversial subject, is acceptable as a reliable source.  We have dozens of peer-reviewed papers on the subject.  If the only thing you can find to bolster your case is an interview comment and a blurb from a book's marketing copy, that's pretty sad.  Any statements sourced to those kind of unreliable sources, should be removed from the article.  I tried doing that already, but you just reverted me.  But the information has to go.