WMC, your dodgy comment is the sort of pushing the bounds of civility that you've been doing rather often, and in my view it undermines your aims rather than helping. I'm aware of your principled spadism, and can sympathise in theory but in practice civility rules. Neither you nor Lar are stupid, indeed you both probably exceed my humble intelligence. Both of you are undoubtedly acting in good faith for what you see as the greater good of the 'pedia, and while actions may appear malicious or stupid to you, it's much wiser and more conducive to constructive progress to assume that they're well intentioned but erroneous. So, once again I remind you to be civil and mind your etiquette. You're of course welcome to delete this unsolicited advice, nae bother. Orrabest, . . ,