:The problem and I am might revert myself for other reasons. is Rupert Loup is an agenda editor with specific issues with Alik Shahadah. I have been cleaning up a mess he created. From MY READING, the consensus was nothing more than opinions, not arguments. It is not about WP:VOTING from that discussion not one single counter is made only "I do not like it". John of NYC like Rupert are specifically disagreeable with that site , Rupert being the most disagreeable.