This really is amusing. I've been away for a week, and the conservatives are still being conservative, the ultra-cons ultra-so, and they don't even realise what's really driving their position here. Soccer is a sport of conservatives, so I don't know how that will change. Logic has no place in their world. They think it does, but in fact they are simply taking a position that prevents change, ever. Pretty Much the classical definition of conservative. If we're editing an encyclopaedia, we must be able to allow change in its contents.