, 2 October 2013 (UTC) 

 ====Nationwide statistics==== 
 I continue to believe whoheartedly that the Crimson poll is meaningless tripe and should be omitted. However, I recognize that compromise is sometimes necessary. Therefore, if editors absolutely insist that the Crimson poll be included, I would reluctantly accede to TWS' suggestion that we include "a source commenting generally on collegiate cheating nationwide, hopefully backed by some kind of data"  actually, on high school cheating, because the Crimson poll covered cheating before entering Harvard: 
 ::In a 2013 poll of incoming Harvard freshmen by the campus newspaper, 10% of those responding said they had cheated on an exam before entering Harvard.  (The Josephson Institute's 2010 poll of 40,000 U.S. high-school students found that, in the immediately previous year, 59% had cheated on an exam.)  
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