"==Summary of previous discussion== 

 The question of whether the USSR should be described as ""totalitarian"" was broached, as the article currently does not use that term. 
 *Arguments for: 
 **The USSR is commonly considered totalitarian. 
 **The article Nazi Germany uses the term to describe that regime, and Soviet Union is a comparable article. 
 *Arguments against: 
 **Scholars disagree on the proper application of the term ""totalitarian"", so in light of that uncertainty it should be avoided as being POV. 
 **Soviet Union, being a summary article, is not directly comparable to Nazi Germany, it being part of the History of Germany series. 
 The question of how the scale of the deaths during the USSR's history should be represented was broached. The suggestion was to quantify it as ""millions"" of people. Further, whether this should be called ""murder"" or ""killings"", or some other term, was discussed. 
 *Arguments for ""millions"": 
 **Millions did, in fact, die. 
 *Arguments against ""millions"": (none) (though I may be misremembering: correct me if wrong  —  |  
 *Arguments for ""murder"": 
 **Murder is a legal term, so it's neutral and appropriate. 
 *Arguments against ""murder"": 
 **Murder, in the context of lawmaker-sanctioned killings, is a moral term, so it's not neutral and is inappropriate. 
 Whether there should be more details about the agricultural failure was broached. 
 *Arguments for: 
 **It represents a significant aspect of the collapse of the USSR. 
 **It was, at least in part, engineered as part of the campaign of killings. 
 **The failure to manage agriculture, being a significant purpose of civilisation, and the land in question being adequate for the needs of the population, is a significant indicator of the general failure of communism. 
 *Arguments against: 
 **It's covered adequately for the purpose of the article, which is a summary and gateway to other USSR articles. 
 **Wikipedia is not in the business of doing original research on ""why"" things happened, only presenting what did happen and what respected experts think about ""why"". Further, saying why is inappropriate for the purpose of the article, being summary, as in the above point. 
 The purpose of this article was broached (as you see above). The article was claimed to currently be a summary of the USSR so that it could act as a gateway to other, more detailed and specific, articles on the USSR. The counter claim was that the USSR is directly comparable to Nazi Germany, and this article should be about the USSR as a regime, and so mirror the article Nazi Germany in structure. 
 *Arguments for similar structure to N.G.: 
 **The USSR was not a legitimate country, but was a regime. Therefore, it is directly comparable to the Nazi regime in Germany. Q.E.D. 
 *Arguments for it being summary/gateway article: 
 **The USSR was a country with a history of several distinct regimes. Further, Soviet Union is not a part of the History of the USSR series, while Nazi Germany is a part of the History of Germany series. The article directly comparable to Soviet Union would instead be Germany. (or perhaps ""East Germany"" was intended?  —  |  

  

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 ==Rewrite== 
 Here's a rewrite of the article based on LOC handbook text at Soviet Union/temp. I favor the article as it is as a more concise and condensed directory of Soviet-related topics. But I can accept basing a new one on one the LOC if it can put an end to this dispute.   

 Was the LOC text written in 1989? In my opinion, the Soviet Union article must at its core reflect that it no longer exists.  
 ::Some parts are, other parts where nececessary are more up-to-date. The history section is taken from the background section in the handbook on Russia. Hence the referenc