== WHAT WE  SEE At Meetings!!!! == 

  
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 User 207.232.97.13, thank you for breaking your silence and entering the discussion. I agree this material should be in Wiki. Give me some research time and maybe we can come up with a version that makes for a good Wiki entry. — DavidMack  

 What we see in the 12 steps are not spook influenced but typical Christian influences (mostly Catholic at that). No doubt Bill Wilson had some interesting ideas but those ideas are not reflected in the 12 steps or the organization of AA. Bill's spook practices and beliefs belong in the article about Bill and not AA. Note that you do not see seances, Ouija boards or channeling at AA meetings nor are they mentioned in the steps or traditions. There is WAY too much Bill Wilson in the article already so adding his strange spook ideas just makes the article that much more off target. Mr Christopher " 
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 Obviously this implies to me  you attend meetings, hence how can your edits be neutral Mr.Chrtisopher??? 

  
 Mine posts are designed to expand the history.  I agree the Orange Papers hold a particular viewpoint but then again so does  Susan Cheevers.  Cheevers in the camp that says it works , Orange is in the camp that says it doesn't.   What the Orange Papers had on file were the letters.  I included references from Cheevers {which I have read} and Orange { which I have read}.  I could further expand on it by including references from Dick B.  {who is in the camp that it is Christianity that works }. 

 If the letters are factual, then they are of importance and need to be addressed on Wikapedia. 

 I have put Bills spook sessions, in the Bill Section and someone has taken it upon themselves to edit. 

 I agree there are pro AA people on this board that are doing their best to squelch history.  If the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions are handed out today and were inspired by contact with the supernatural then do we not have a right to know???? 

 I also found a pro christian bias on Dick B.s website , do I throw the information he has gleaned on  that basis only. 

 I have to add I am new at this and so my inexperience in posting do show up,  I make many mistakes , but the intent is to bring to light information. 

 It disturbs me that AA has sealed the Spook Files, I am sure there is much in them . 

 The fact is that Bill's Spook Sessions make him a more interesting a likable guy, on my part , however I am not allowed my opinion.