::::Ok, I have reviewed the previous thread. BA, I know that you are not going to like this but the fact is that you did not have consensus. What you had was a 2 versus 1 situation ... and the one had a source whereas the two appear to have been relying on original research. Consensus is always based primarily on arguments that are compliant with policy, and OR is contra-policy. I am not suggesting the you and t'other are incorrect in your opinion but rather that your opinions as then stated seem not to comply with Wikipedia's methodology. Of course, WP is not a perfect system but it is how it is. Can you provide something that does fit within the way that WP operates? I guess, putting things bluntly, we need to start that debate again. Sorry. -