::In addition, 
 ::*Remurmur claims the article is "full of...acknowledged masterpieces"? Is it really? As with other celebrated genres, I'd say film noir is marked by a large number of very good to excellent films that, for all their virtues, do not individually transcend the status of industrial product; the genre's reputation by no means hinges on many "acknowledged masterpieces." 
 ::*Remurmur's initial edit summary—that the current content reflects "excessive gloating" over Raging Bull—indicates that the editor misunderstands not only the word "gloating", but the passage, as well. The discussion of the film's general critical status serves as necessary balance to its more pertinent and relatively objective characterization as an aesthetic "retreat". 
 ::*While Citizen Kane is an important influence, it is not generally regarded as a noir (classic or neo), so its AFI ranking is irrelevant here. 
 ::*Schrader is mentioned because he is regarded as one of the most important neo-noir screenwriters; he is also one of the most important early theorists of noir. Others filmmakers mentioned directly in their capacity as screenwriters include Robert Towne, Joe Eszterhas, Dennis Potter, and David Ayer. 
 ::*A side note on attitude and self-perception: If my desire to preserve properly sourced material that was present when Featured Article vetting took place is to be labeled "stubborn", Remurmur, how shall we characterize your previous efforts to remove it without discussion?—