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 == Break all this youtube stuff into a special archive. ==    
      
 Like the picture disscussion ect.      
      
 :I don't think this particular discussion fits there. People will continually come here searching for the explanation of the compromise about Baha'u'llah's picture. When some people in the future get into edit disputes over youtube content they can be referred to the particular regular archive that this will be a part of. If there is a substantial amount of these by several people over a prolonged amount of time, like with the picture, it can be moved to what you're suggesting. There have been other discussions of similar length and ... umm... 'personality involvement' (ex: demographics) that were archived quite successfully in the regular numbered archives. As soon as another topic opens up I (or anyone else) will go ahead and archive everything up through this section. -     
      
 ::Agreed with LambaJan. This topic will not be a recurrent theme. YouTube will not serve as a priciple source on Baha'i encyclopaedia entries here, or in print. Most certainly not the main article. Roddy is the only one who appears to think so. Somebody can just do a straight-up archive of this in a couple of days.      
      
 :::Yes, I agree, with LambaJan, too. But for Zazaban's sake I have put an achive together on youtube, it is a special achive on youtube with content from the wikipedia Baha'i talk page Wikipedia talk page on Youtube. Have a look at the audio visual material. I suspect that ""FA"" is the reason that we have had Jeff3000 and RoddyYoung getting into head to head clashes over wikipedia policy. It is because the Bahai page has ""Featured Article"" status. RoddyYoung (speaking in the third person) would like to see the Baha'i faith page remain in the start status (mind set of developers eager to improve). By creating daughter links to the key figures, as well as most headings, room is created to report on new trends and developments. The only way that youtube content with Baha'i materal could get on to a FA page is if the Universal House of Justice made provision for individual initiative in a Ridvan Message that then precipitated into noteworthy youtube content and thus presented on the section relating to present Baha'i plans. I feel that as it stands now Jeff3000 may see the Baha'i page as ""finished"" (reminds me of the USA patent office that wanted to shut around 1840 and stating that all patents and inventions had already been discovered! We now know that was not true but the reference is). I am suggesting that more developments in the Baha'i page are to come and that the Baha'i pages is an ""FA"" page in the truest sense but that history over then next 500,000 years (of human history) will see additions, combinations and permutations. My comments are not personally to Jeff3000, hi Jeff, but to his editing style. Jeff has shown good service todate. He has done a good job here, I am wanting to state a position that I see, in Jeff3000's case and any person who will rvt or delete youtube reference on principle (wikipedia policy) is challenging and a generator of talk. I see that the Wikipedia Baha'i page as the Dawning Place of God's Praise (could be seen as a place similar to a Mashriqu'l-Adhkár (Arabic: مشرق اﻻذكار, ""Dawning-place of the Remembrance of God"") Bahá'í House of Worship). That is my position. It therefore needs to approach perfection. LambaJan you have my vote to proceed with your suggestion directly above. How many votes is it to make it a recommendation to go forward to consideration of what body, the Local Wikipedia house of Justice? One vote, or nine votes or a majority of three in a quorum of 5? Maybe we need to elect an edit board for this page. Or would the LSA of where the wikipedia computer server is be the most appropriate governance body for all of us visitors. Some will say that that LSA does not have influence over all users here, true but if 6 million people or 1 to 1000 of the world's population were prepared to do one delete and one rvt each then the page would look like the corporate bodies intent. That is why Shoghi Effendi was so happy when LSA's Incorporated under the 1908 Incorporated Societies Act. A legal enterty light came on. 15 people made a body Incorporated. That was a mile stone. Shoghi Effendi went on to say that no more than 15 Baha'is were needed in the cities (where would they go? Pioneer as an alternative. Where? Wikipedia and Youtube internet locations after moving to remote physical locations). A body to interperate the wikipedia rule ...Reverting ''Improve pages wherever you can, and don't worry about leaving them imperfect. However, avoid deleting information wherever possible