:::Just to put a bow on this, looking back at it a day later, I'd like to say to you that I accept your explanation that you were not attempting to attack me in our exchange. I think we're at the place we need to be with this  we have identified ways in which the articles we talked about could definitely be improved. If you want to make those improvements, you can do so. That certainly isn't your obligation, though. At the same time, I think we have clearly gone over how the articles are notable. I'd like to close by wishing you happy editing.