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 ::::::::Third opinions serve as a way of getting a bit more consensus when it's just two users going back and forth without any real consensus. I joined the discussion when the page was listed for a third opinion. My place in the discussion is irrelevant; it's no different than if I had randomly stumbled upon the page and joined the conversation. Wikipedia allows all editors the ability to do that. 
 ::::::::If you want somewhere else to go, try RfC. I'm not really willing to moderate, as this whole page is incredibly frustrating to me. To be honest, John, you're not being helpful. Weren't you just banned for 24 hours for disruptive editing? I'm sorry, but I can't work with an editor who's not willing to work towards a compromise. I've gotten so lost in the endless debate that I don't even know what the original focus is anymore. 
 ::::::::But that's neither here nor there. I'm going to wait to see how the AfD is resolved. —  [  ·  ] "