::::A period means that whatever I reply will be taken as mere sound, noise actually, so I had better keep silent. But what you say is disastrous for encyclopedic content. Deceivers might very well be extremely skilfull in their deceiving practice, onlookers are generally not well-informed, not always keen, and mostly dumb, and though you should - of course - always try to reveal a COI by content-driven argument first, there should be an end to it. When I arrived at the Landmark scene, I became immediately involved, totally unexpectedly so, in an Arbitration process, including offensive, insinuating and unfounded accusations with respect to my history on nl.wiki. Next I had to fight like a lion to stop the smearing of reliable sources. The next step the COI editor took was trying to have sanctions enforced on me. And you, Keegan, are perfectly content with your impeccable first principles, defending the block of Cathar66 who was absolutely right and who has done more to solve the Landmark trouble than most of us. I am grateful for the occasion to comment here. I hope Cathar66 enjoys his hot whisky's.