:: While you're at it why not give the poster who's been using terms like "fucking morons" on this page a good talking to? He has since then been posting more of the same on his talk page( "SHUT THE FUCK OFF!", as a reply to a warning not to be obscene or abusive on the talk pages for example.) I think if you did this that everyone would be very impressed with what a reasonable fellow you are and decide to agree with your assertion that the Coanda 1910 was a jet. I just wish I could remember his username... something about a red shoe maybe?