::Interesting, I notice   edited this off your discussion page and so I am adding it back in. 

  
 ::Just out of interest, who do you think this nark  is and why is he so motivated to go about doing what he is doing? I put this record up in the open for you and them to see because I have no and have had no connection with you nor any of the journal pages and, frankly, I take offence at being called a meat or sockpuppet of yours when I am not. I am sure that you are just or even more upset as being accused of a connection with me when you have none. 	   

 ::Unfortunately though, that is the depth of 's lies and the shallowness of 's integrity. 	   
 ::* Where he has no grounds he invents them and he is, oh, so clever at playing WikiTricks with all these technical terms and methods. 	   
 ::I am starting to feel like a Jew in Nazi Germany being hunted down, connected to individuals which I have no connection with and their so-called crimes and accused of crimes which are not mine. 	   

 ::And what of ? He just seems to get off on throwing around his weight whilst avoiding entering into the actually factual discussion. 	   

 ::For the record - and let them love every minute of their persecution syndrome, let them avidly copy and paste and make little weblinks to this as they are so good at Wikitricks - I am a vegan of 20 years or more standing and, arguably, MacDonald of Clanranald. I became involved in editing the vegan article before you returned to it recently. I am entirely responsible for kicking this whole thing off because I refused to let  get away with his ridiculous domination of the article and I put  in the same category for his anorexic stuff. 	   

 ::From my point of view, my objections are largely literary. The article became too bloated and required editing down. It is merely meant to be a definition of what vegan is. I don't see any point in actually engaging in those that oppose veganism. I don't even support vegan's trying to counter counter-vegan propaganda on the Wiki. It is best to keep it short and simple and give a few links so that folks that are interested can go find out more. 	   

 ::I approached  reasonably and got the same sort of response as you did, see ; . When  started to engage in his revisions without consultation, I tried to engage him in reasonable discussion, see ; . But he just ignores it. 	   
 ::Fine. I showed respect, they showed themselves for what they are. 	   
 ::I find it weird in a way that individuals can become so obsessed by something that they obviously do not love but instead want to demean or destroy - and that means you now - and are willing to invest so much time and energy into it. 	   
 ::I could understand it if  was a paid employee of the meat industry - he says he has professional scientific interest in animal husbandry. That would just make him a paid publicist. But if he is doing this and attacking you in his own free time, I pity him deeply. 	   
 ::"What were you doing all this evening on your computer, darling?" His wee wifie asks him. 	   
 ::"Oh, I spent hours trying to stomp on vegans on the internet, made a really good complaint against one and tried to mess up their article with references to anorexics who think they are vegetarians " 	   
 ::"That's nice."