" about the babies' daddies.  I love them with all my heart.  Yes, I also find ""black is beautiful"", but I don't need your frigging ass to tell me who to love! 

 :I agree with futurebird. Keep it civil and relevant. Don't make ad hominem attacks, discuss the article and not the editor. Give reasons for the changes you want to make and back them up with reliable sources that support the point of view you want to introduce. Be civil and do not make racist comments like this one.   

 ::Futurebird is not right, because he is still making assumptions; don't kiss his ass with your false motives.  You just want to be on his good side, because you are a conniving white liberal who would never listen to the concerns of an ethnic minority, just tell them some Kipling thing about how it's up to your own white ass to make them happy and successful, while trying to turn blacks against your political enemies, the white conservatives.  Dirty, dirty worm politics in your backstabbing self.  I don't need your divisive POV pushing to try and ""teach a lesson"" to ""ignorant and backwards white Americans"" about their ""false whitehood"".  Would you like me to ""rob"" you of your British/Anglo-Welsh heritage, by saying that it doesn't exist, even though you are very conscious of it, as well as the Nordic blend of your children?  It would be offensive and intrusive, wouldn't it?  So why set a double standard, for you to preach your infallible faith in ""socialistic progressive science"" about other people who ""just have to take it like a man"", holding their ankles and bending over like a fairy?    

 Alun is used to getting his way. That comes with the territory of being around for so long, especially if one enjoys his lynch-fests of politically incorrect editors.   

 Lookie lookie:   It appears that Alun has made it his mission to define white people, even to the point of edit-warring.  So, if one makes this about personalitiesand I'm unfamiliarthen why accept the diatribes of this recidivist racist calling me a racist?  I just don't want Wikipedia to perpetuate stereotype and invite prejudice, based upon skewed findings of like-minded intellects like Noel Ignatiev.    

 :, please read Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Your behavior on this talk page, and the edit summaries you've made with your reversions, have crossed the line from advocacy to attacks and Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. Continuing down this path will lead to a report at WP:ANI. —   |   

 Sure.  I'll stop, but will he?  I leave that up to him.  If he violates principle again, I'll have to call him out on it.  Why do you consider complaints about personal attacks to be wrong?  I don't care, actually.  Maybe since drawing attention to this problem of systemic bias so much, some changes could result.  I'm tired.    

 In reply to Alun's comments on Jeeny's talk page: 

 *The article already asserts that America has two racial populations, then goes on to say that there is no essential difference in DNA.  This is your socialistic and revisionist opinion, which is why you want so much to keep it that way.  I don't think one way or the other, but I sure as hell won't accept your dogmatism on it.  People are fluid and stable at the same time.  So what?    

 *BTW, this: http://backintyme.com/essays/?p=5 article states that Sicilians and Greeks are lactose-intolerant. Why then, is cheese culture, including dinners with lots and lots of cheese, so ancient in those cultures, while it is only recent that the Danes and Dutch have taken an interest in blue cheese, for instance? It's utter bollocks, but you think it is a worthwhile, trusty and serious source? From the start, I see bullshit. How do you get sucked into the kool aid and drown?    

 # The USA has far more than two ""racial populations"". People identify as various different things, but in the USA people may identify as Asian American, European American, Indigenous Americans and African Americans and presumably many more. 
 # The article, and no science anywhere claims that there are no essential differences in DNA between people from these groups. Clearly people identifying as ""white"" have significantly and measurably a majority of European a