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 ::::::Civility is bullshit.  It's a way to censor individuals.  So, one user can give a veiled threat about being careful.  Another call us squabbling little pre-school children.  At least I don't whine about civility to anyone.  At least I don't hide behind the curtain of...well...bullshit.  In the end, one person's civility is another person's manner of speech.  Now personal attacks...that's a different ball of wax, or some other metaphor.  )  Back on topic, I think an admin who made a major fuck-up should be fired, unless there's an apology out there.    But poor Mongo must either wonder why people are posting to his talk page, or he's enjoying the hell out of this.   "