References eh?  You know what gets to me though man..  There are numerous sites around now that have had their content auto generated from Wikipedia (seeing a Biography Channel page about the histry of the band is one of the reasons I set about trying to get the record straight). 

 In other words, it's bloody difficult trying to find anything to support my side of the story. 

 Dig deep though, and the truth is out there - check this out! http://dux.dundee.ac.uk/~sxbrown/dubs/brief.htm