==You have Missed the point== 
 No...Not my way or the highway...the accepted way..... in fact...how do you think "Genetic scientists" measure sleep in the fruit fly? By recording their EEG?..... they use behavioral observation. Read some of the studies (you should cite the original sources) ....you'll know what I am talking about. When they knock out the clock gene.... how do you thing they measure the response? When they introduce caffeine or produce "rest deprivation".... how do you think they measure a "rest rebound".... they use behavioral observation. All of the genetic studies ultimately rely on behavioral observation...or at least use it to validate their data. Phenotype.... remember?  I in no way rejected the genetic studies. I embrace them as a basic researcher. Most of my work is basic research.... I don't watch people "toss and turn" all night.  
 Behavioral observation is an important tool in biology, as well as neuroscience. I fail to see the reasoning behind your comments. Nobody is refuting the genetic basis of sleep. The problem is.... you make it seem like that is the only aspect of the science....when the truth is... it is only a small part...an important part.... but small.  
 I have provided real references. Nobody else has.  
 No one in the sleep field defines sleep the way you have. Plants to not sleep....as the definition of sleep is based on behavioral and EEG data. If the definition of sleep is changed..... then fine. But it has not.  
 It is more appropriate to refer to plant... or lower vertebrate / invertebrate "sleep"  as a Basic Rest and Activity Cycle. That is the proper term. That is the term the "experts" use.  
 I really do not know where this hostility is coming from.  
 I assumed wiki would want the people active in the field to add to this library.  
 These are not my opinions... or my way. They are the ideas supported by the literature and accepted by the field.  

  29 June 2005 17:09 (UTC)