: Bzzt. Seeking anything on Teh Jimbo's page is always about shite-stirring. And you are seeking GodKing intervention in that discussion, so... Bzzt.    

 ::That response seems to me a good example of the type of insensitive cynicism to which I was alluding. Cheers, —  

 ::: goway ;>    

 :I am most certainly not seeking any intervention in that discussion: I wouldn't, I hope, be so stupid. What I am seeking is to open a civilized debate on Wikipedia culture, and the ways in which the subset of editors capable of bringing articles to FA can be discouraged, or to use Tim's expression, "ground down". I think I've made this intention quite clear. Also that the thread does not regard infoboxes, or individual participants such as yourself or Andy. —  

 :: What part of "goway" did you not understand? Street-Legal Sockpuppet