, 4 August 2009 (UTC) 
 ::::::It's not just "on visual basic" and it's a reliably published book on programming and game design. It doesn't need to be a "gaming source" (although in any case it is a gaming source), otherwise one could not cite for example gaming reviews by The Times. It is a print source, on programming and game design, by a reliable publisher and thus passes WP:RS. If you follow the Google Books link you will see it comes from a section on video game genres (though the link to the particular page has rotted). It explicitly states that Tomb Raider is responsible for the popularity of the third person shooter genre. The citation was added by a third editor in good standing here and verified by me. The History of Tomb Raider article comments on how the game was seen in relation to Doom and the importance of its control scheme, adventuring theme etc again in contrast to Doom; this is worthy of note as its discussing the game in context of shooters. Finally, with regards to Syphon Filter the source] states: "What we had originally implemented was a target-lock system inspired by Syphon Filter, the most popular third-person shooter on the PlayStation, and DMC, at the time the most popular third-person shooter on the PlayStation 2." If you want to trying playing the 3RR card here be my guest. The policy forbids edit warring more so than an arbitrary number and since you are removing reliably sourced content with a reasonably long standing consensus and offering only spurious WP:IDONTLIKEIT arguments based on original research, you are not going to make yourself look good.   06:06