Nihilism

">> Your elaboration makes absolutely no sense. You've confirmed my own philosophy in your example. You don't want to drink soda because it is bad for you. This is perfectly reasonable. You have weighed the negative effect of drinking the soda as being higher than any positive effect in terms of pleasure. This is consequentionalism and hedonism. Meaninglessness would imply that you have nothing to base any kind of decision off of. " That's not what I meant. What I meant was that, if you buy and drink it, it will be bad for your health, and you will have to undergo the consequences in time. If you do not buy it, you will always have a feeling saying "what if I bought it, and...", and if you stop drinking altogether, you'll die. It doesn't matter what you do, in the end, the consequences will be negative. >> This argument simply fails on a scientific manner. There is no happiness gene and there is no proof to suggest that unhappiness is ever passed down genetically. My opponent needs to either dump this case or prove me wrong by providing such proof. Then he said a series of statements which just do not connect. He said since we will always desire more we are never completely satisfied and because of that were are always completely unsatisfied. I really hope you see the huge hole there. Again, misunderstanding. What I meant was that a person always gets something from his or her grandparents. If your grandparents have been raised in a certain manner, then that way of doing things will be passed down on them, then on your parents, and finally on you. It is completely logical. A human being will never be able to be completely satisfied, because a human being will always strive for more, always specifically looking for flaws. You missed my point here. I said that either they are completely unsatisfied, OR there is some tiny bit of them that wants it better. People put on faces in order not to get hurt, but in the end, those faces just cause them to be hurt far more badly. >> There is a big difference between ever wanting to kill and fight and always wanting to kill and fight, the latter is what you first stated and have yet to defend. On love; this is completely false in a scientific sense. There is definitely such things as empathy and emotions which cause you to truly place the concerns of others before your own. This is fact. If a person sees a slaughter, no matter at what time, when, or where, they will always awaken some primal instinct to either run because of danger or join the fight to eliminate the source of the danger. It's instinct, not something we can help. About love; what I meant was that love is a chemical reaction in the brains, that makes you look at things more positively. As such, there is no such thing as "true love", because if the chemical process is replicated, that feeling can be felt for anyone. That's why I said love doesn't exist. Our ability to judge morality comes from our ability to reason. Thus morality is essentially rationality. (not refuted) You are partially right. Firstly, morals don't have to be rational. Things like "Oh, the ship is sinking, women and kids first to the rescue boats!" are completely irrational. The person with the highest survival chance should go first, but because women and children are (IN THEORY) weaker, they can go first. If it would have been rationally thought through, then men would've been the first to be saved, because a man's body is genetically stronger then a woman's. Irrational thinking has also lead to strange morality. As such, it can not be applied in any situation, but rather only in some. We can feel happiness. Happiness is intrinsically good and thus logically causes a purpose to pursue it (not refuted) I never even stated we can't pursue it, I did state we can never achieve a state of true happiness. >> Wrong. The undeniable fact that we can feel happiness gives us an intrinsic purpose to pursue it. Suicide eliminates that opportunity. There is negativity in life but it is entirely possible to obtain more positivity than negativity. Because we can we have a purpose to. Furthermore, your claim that we can't be happy forever is entirely baseless. It doesn't matter if you want to pursue it or not. If you are dead, you'll never feel anything again. Not happiness, not reason, and not sadness. Death is a morally superior state to life. As for my claim that we can't be happy forever, please look through the concept of biorhythm. At one point, every so many days, a person will be utterly unhappy, and only able to set up a fake mask of happiness. It's like holding back your tears; you don't want to look weak, but everyone can see your eyes turn red.