Christian God = Loving Father

So you accepted this debate only to show me that it cannot be debated? Kinda wish you left it alone, but I guess that's my fault for leaving the challenge so open! I know to you it sounds like I'm backed against a wall but to me it looks like you are avoiding the argument. I do accept your arguments about atheists however... made sense, but irrelevant seeing as how I am not an atheist. (Unless you consider everyone to be atheist to a specific God) Yes I am atheist to the Christian God, the Greek/Roman Gods, Hindu Gods... Do you believe that it is possible that Zeus and Vishnu Exists? Do you pass them off as Mythology? Well I do! It is pretty obvious to me that people created those Gods out of their own personal agenda. Like asking the question "Why does it rain"? Followed by some story of the "Rain God" Myth! The only difference between those religions and Christianity is that Christianity only has one made up God. Anyways.... "Con immediately uses the fallacy of equivocation to assume that EVERY CONCEPT OF GOD IS THE SAME, and then he uses a faulty generalization to argue that THEY ARE ALL MYTHOLOGICAL without any valid reasons or evidences to do so. He seems to have MISSED MY POINT ENTIRELY, and then goes on to plead that MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE, showing that he has no valid arguments against the Christian God other than his own subjective view of love." I Highlighted the most important parts of your opening rebuttal. I want you to consider that Everything you spoke negatively about what I had wrote can be turned on the bible. I find myself to be just as credible of a source (If not more so) than the bible for "objective morality" When the people who wrote the bible gave us their moral code not only was it subjective morality but was completely barbaric and obsolete to today's standards. That is why people cherry pick whatever they want out of the bible, You don't stone your neighbor for working on the Sabbath, you don't allow slavery or tolerate rape (Several passages in the bible condone both) but more than likely you are out there protesting the gays or still follow blood rituals! The true conflict in this debate is the complete opposition to the validity of the Bible. You truly believe with your "heart" that the Bible was inspired by the true mind of God... I don't, unless you consider my theory that all thoughts, ideas, and writings come from God! Like I said not only do I have valid argument, I am actually more reliable than the people who wrote an obsolete book! "Con also uses a faulty genereralization to assume the doctrine of eternal punishment from the Christian God. This concept is promoted by many unlearned Christians, when in actuality the Christian God teaches that the wicked will be annihilated." I'm confused, do you go to church in your basement and learn the gospel of Lupricona? So Revelations? Apparently most Christians don't know their bible! Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who does not believe will be condemned Matthew 13:50 "furnace of fire"weeping and gnashing of teeth" Mark 9:48 "where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched" Revelation 14:10 "he will be tormented with fire and brimstone" Everyone will exist eternally either in heaven or hell (Daniel 12:2,3; Matthew 25:46; John 5:28; Revelation 20:14,15). Heaven or hell is determined by whether a person believes (puts their trust) in Christ alone to save them (John 3:16, 36,) Hell was designed ORIGINALLY for Satan and his demons (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:10). Hell will also punish the sin of those who reject Christ (Matthew 13:41,50; Revelation 20:11-15; 21:8). "Atheists say that there is no life after death, and God grants their wish. I fail to see how this is unjust- the atheists do not want eternal life and they are not granted it." I assume that atheists cannot believe that the God in the Bible has their best interests at heart. If I were Satan I would do everything in my power to convince you I was God. I urge you to consider that you may be worshiping the wrong guy! The bible does not depict a loving father. It depicts negligence and egotism! Its better to pretend you do not have a father than one who demands your respect without earning it! Then forgets you when you are angry about the life "He gave you"! "con argues from his paradigm of moral relativism. This means that his opinions are not truer than mine. He can not object to my opinions, nor can he show any valid argument as to why his opinions would be better, as there is NO SUCH THING AS GOOD AND EVIL" MORALITY IS SECULAR!!!!!!!!! My next round will be nothing but an argument about where morality comes from... lets move on... GEESH! We had to come to an agreement on the terms of the debate which we were both unsatisfied with! If you cannot recognize my subjective morality as a stable grounds for this debate you should not have wasted my efforts when you should have known that before you accepted. To me it still looks like you do not want to debate because I have the Giant hammer to crack your small nut! The scenario I gave you was pretty vivid and was a simple enough analogy to prove that my current subjective morality is actually superior to the objective morality you would find in the bible. If I were to write a book about morality it would be considered objective because I'm sure billions of people could agree that I am a moral person! My anger towards Christianity comes from empathy for the billions of lost souls wandering this planet! I cannot and will not conceive a God that will obliterate or torture anyone! The God in the bible always chooses drastic apocalyptic solutions when simple guidance would suffice! Show me please. Show me for certainty that you have true reason to believe what you do (That isn't just all in your head.. like a shared illusion) How can your God be the only true God? Do you believe that anyone in a religion outside of yours are "sharing an illusion"? How could people believe in Noah's Ark one minute and deny the story of Hercules the next? "However, as I am arguing from a paradigm of objective morality, I can argue that he is incorrect in thinking that the Christian God is not loving, He grants the righteous the promise of a resurrection, and instructs those who are willing on how to be righteous people. How can this God not be described as a loving father?" Weird how you use the bible as a pedestal. Don't see that everyday! Show me evidence buddy! Proof is not in how Christians live their lives to bible standards. No cherry picking there! I gave you an example of how God proclaims to be loving but does not back it up by actions. A book IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!! In fact the book illustrates malevolence and sadism in the "perfect" mind of God! The creator? HA!! Great job there.. Although he could have left out parasites, viruses, earthquakes, , toxins, cancer, the fruit of knowledge... You know.. suffering in general. I would have come up with a much better existence.. Me - 2 , God -0 So already You can see: I am actually more benevolent than your God. I provide a better objective morality on this napkin I scribbled down "love everybody unconditionally"! Long story short.. You better start debating man you keep wasting your rounds.. Go on and defend your Father!