God exists

"We cannot prove that He does not exist, and we have no concrete proof for his existence… would it too be a grave mistake to assume that God did not exist out there somewhere? You fall by the testimony of your own logic." Well first of all, if you CANNOT prove that God does exist, why should I believe any of the stuff you tell me about said "God" ? If you fail to prove that he even exists, how are you going to tell me that you know things about him? Why would I believe it? It is safe to say that there are other galaxies that exist in space. Say I say: "There is this galaxy, this galaxy is called Tholos. The galaxy has 3 planets, all three planets have no life on them, ............." First, I cannot prove to you that galaxy Tholos exists, so why should you believe that it has 3 planets, why should you believe that there is no life on those planets? You shouldn't, because there is NO proof that those planets, and even the galaxy exists. "Take note that Tholos did not adequately refute my point of personal testimony. He tried to nonchalantly cast it aside by saying that I cannot prove that what they experienced was real. Ironically that was precisely my point. " "Then a third, a forth, and soon 90% of the worlds population would have been called to the stand to give experiential testimony for the existence of God. So the existence of God is confirmed by the majority of witness testimony (and not by a small margin). " I'm sorry, but did I miss something? It looks like you said, because 90% of the population have said they have witnessed God, he exists... "Tholos believes that somehow two dead bodies is evidence of murder – unfortunately the only evidence that can be concretely proven by two dead bodies is two dead bodies. Apparently Tholos can make the leap that two dead bodies = murder, but it is wrong for 90% of the population to say that a fine-tuned-and-intricately-complex-universe = creator." I believe that if there is a murder case, and the defendant is charged for the murder of two, the dead bodies are proof that he is the murderer (if the weapon used, DNA testing, fingerprinting, etc.) are found to match the defendant. It is wrong for 90% of the population to say that a fine-tuned and intricately complex universe = creator. 90% of the population lacks critical thinking skills. (with re guard towards religion). If you were born in China, you would be a Buddhist, since you were born in America, you are most likely a Christian. If you were born in China, you would think that Christianity is wrong, and your religion is right. It is by mere chance that you are a Christian, unless your parents weren't, and you made the choice. "So what evidence other than overwhelming personal testimony gives credence to the existence of a god? First, let us start with what is formally known as the Anthropic Principle. The Anthropic Principle essentially states that the probability of a life sustaining universe spontaneously arising out of unguided primordial matter is so slim as to be logically classified as impossible. Our universe is fine tuned in away that if the gravitational pull was any different, our universe would either drift into abyss or implode in on itself. If the balance of our chemicals (nchop) was any different, our earth could not sustain life. The universe and its constants have an apparent fine-tuning for life that simply cannot be explained by chance. " the probability of a life sustaining universe spontaneously arising out of unguided primordial matter is very slim. It is very slim, therefore, it NOT impossible. This is the beauty that I see in the universe, that we are here on very slim chances, and honestly it makes the world a lot more beautiful for me. I was a Roman Catholic Christian until about 6 months ago. I believed in God because my parents told me to, and I attended a Roman Catholic High School (which I still do). "Something needs to be eternal and uncaused in order that we do not have the impossibility of infinite regression. The Big Bang Theory essentially states that at one moment time, space, and matter were brought into existence – something came from nothing. This defies the 1st law of thermodynamics that states that "matter is neither created nor destroyed." If our universe is not eternal - as the 2nd law of thermodynamics seems to imply (and the Big Bang Theory states) - then there needs to be something that is. This is an evidence for a creator that is both eternal and uncaused. " First of all, you violate your own premise by saying that "the creator" is uncaused. The Big Bang Theory is coming to be explained more and more every day by Antimatter http://en.wikipedia.org... And the M-Theory http://en.wikipedia.org... "There are far too many things I could use as evidence for a creator " Please, give me the evidence, because so far, you have not. My opponent has so far not done the point of the debate, he has attacked my logic and reasoning, but has still ignored the main point of the argument, to give proof that God exists. Undeniable proof that there is indeed a God.