Most Children are parasites

Counter One: "And for something to be "useful" it must tangible (definition of useful: "of practical use, as for doing work; producing material results; supplying common needs"; From dictionary.com)" That definition is definition two. I used definition one, which I believe is definition one because it's either better or more commonly used. I would more commonly use definition one, but that's just my opinion. Can we try not to turn this into a definition argument? How about we just use both since they both define useful (see the link to the definition in round one). Counter Two: "Picking up something YOU got out is not performing a service to someone else, it is balancing a dis-service. As for doing chores, no-one I know actually did any meaningful chores(that I know of) until they hit their early teens." But if you balance a dis-service, then it is made a service. Maybe we need to define surface. We really need to stop getting into semantics. Whatever, here's one. Service(1): An act of helpful activity; help; aid: to do someone a service http://dictionary.reference.com... So, while the fact that the child hasn't put their toys away until then still remains, actually putting them away is still helpful, for my reasons stated in round one. It really doesn't matter if anyone you know has done any meaningful chores, for two reasons. The people you know are not the majority of children. Plus, would someone randomly say "Hey man, I just got a chore done, and it was meaningful!" Anyway, even if a child did some kind of meaningful chore, like cleaning their room once in their childhood years they would not be considered a parasite. The majority of children have done that. Counter Three: "Now onto school. Public school is not actually free, you must pay taxes in order to finance it. As for the assertion that schools teach discipline, it is irrelevent. Wether the parents teach disciplin, or the schools do, the child is still benefitting from it at a cost to society. Moving onto what would happen if children weren't educated, through most of human civilization education was either non-existent, or reserved for the wealthy, and yet: here we are. Formal Education is not neccisary to succeed. In fact, Andrew Jackson(president of the U.S.A.) had very little formal education." Okay, I forgot about that. But nevertheless, education is still helpful to a parent for my reasons in round one. Even if you say discipline is irrelevant, it's not. The child may be getting education from a cost to society, but discipline is still helpful for my round one reasons. If it's helpful, then it's a service, so it's useful, and so not parasitic. Counter Four: "Yet again, we come to an irrelevant point. Wether a child is allowed to work has NOTHING to do with wether he/she is parasitic." I agree with you on that, but you still have to counter all of my points above. Counter Five: "Wether people like or want children is also COMPLETELY irrelevent." No it isn't, because if someone wants children, then obviously they believe they would benefit them in some way. Whether that be love, traits to pass on, or the reasons above, it is still relevant. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arguments: I don't think I need any. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: In conclusion, you should vote Con. Also, the spell check isn't working. I'm sure some people know that already, and they probably know that it's irrelevant.