One volunteer, is better than ten forced men.

WW: "Sure a volunteer may actually WANT to get the work done but the FORCED are just as likely to get it done because they face dire consequences such as death." But don't you think that having death as a consequence would trigger the opposite effect? I mean, if their life is one the line they might consider giving up, or being too scared to continue the work. Whereas someone who WANTED to do the work would have all the motivation in the world by simply having a will to do something for free, because they think it will better someone's life. WW: " Well, 10 forced African chiilder soldiers are more effective than 1 male volunteer soldiers. I get bullets fired just as effectively and more are actually fired from the 10 children soldiers thus allowing 10 forced children to be better. If he wants to word play and use the term men than 10 FORCED conscript men fire more bullets and they are just as deadly as if fired from 1 man except I get more." The thing is that these children who are forced into the army aren't going to have as much will power as someone who volunteered. They would wonder things like "Whats is even the point if we are not going to be able to have freedom anyway?" But with a volunteer, they have willingly joined to better their country, or what they feel is at least bettering it by. They would have a stronger determination, and willpower to get the job done, and more than likely would be able to take down ten soldiers singlehandly who had been forced in the army. WW: "Will to work/motivation again seems to be the basis. Well, Slavery is a prime example of how this is bull sh!t. Back in the old America where blacks were slaves, stuff got done, they didn't get paid, they were motivated by the threat of death or beating and were FORCED to do the work and the work still managed to get done effectively and if it didn't you knew you would be beaten." But how would we know how this works opposed to how things would get done if they had volunteered? Slaves ran away all the time. They rebelled against leaders. But if they had willingly wanted to, one of them could double that work, and have spirit in getting it complete. More spirit and will, = getting more done. WW: "VIolence and cruelty are often the force driving men to do what they need to. An instance in which cruelty is necessary and forces 10 or more men to act, is when the prince is commanding his troops in war. Here Machiavelli uses the example of Hannibal, whose "inhuman cruelty" enabled him to hold together and maintain control over his army. Machiavelli points out that the same people who praise Hannibal for his accomplishments also condemn his cruelty, and yet without the cruelty he could not have accomplished everything he did" While fear can be a great motivational factor, we have yet to consider how that compares to volunteered work. Love and will are just as great motivational factors if not greater ones. Armies led with courage and a want to get things done always have had the better luck in the end of any war. Someone who has been forced do something has been raised with fear. Is it more likely that someone rushing into battle is going to be more succesful with fear, or with courage and hope? It is for all these reasons that I believe 1 volunteered man would have much more success then 10 forced men. Thankyou. -philosophical