Flash would beat Arrow in a fight

In Short: They did fight, The Flash did not win. Rebuttals: Normally the final round isn't for new argument lines and sources, but there are new ones I must address; I will however only use sources directly connected to new points from Greener49… "lack of awareness of his surroundings that is incorrect because he was in a berserk rage" If The Flash is only unaware of his surroundings when in a "berserk rage," but is regularly unaware of his surroundings, than there was nothing special about the rage he suffered in said fight. As demonstrated at the 0:52 mark of my video this round [12], he is regularly unaware of his surroundings. "over confident of his power's more then he regularly is, which would lead to more mistakes." Comparing the 2:50 mark of my R2 video [6] to the 1:35 mark of the current one [12], The Flash was actually more aware of his surroundings during this fight than normal; which defeats the point. Any special circumstances clearly led to less mistakes, and can thus be assumed to be strictly beneficial for him. "if someone's really hyper that doesn't make them super fast." According to the dictionary Hyper is defined as "extremely active" [13], and active is defines as "doing things that require physical movement and energy" [14], so hyper does relate to speed. As seen with the fighting championships, speed clearly does not assure victory. More of it may be helpful, but not an assurance. Technique remains king. "The Flash is super fast, has some technique and is super strong" I will not deny his great speed (more on that next). However, his fighting technique seems greatly lacking; as demonstrated when he "was unable to escape a basic hold for 9 seconds." As there are no rounds left for you to support this claimed super-strength, I will merely point out if he is "super strong," it is leveraged so ineffectively by his flawed technique that he was unable to leave any lasting injury even when trying to kill someone, and again, apparently with super-strength he still "was unable to escape a basic hold for 9 seconds." That is nine seconds with super-strength and super-speed. "Plus he can run faster then the human can see with proof here" His speed with women, is not an indicator of his speed in a fight. "to highlight the Flashes superior fighting ability, here is some of his training" His training looks suspiciously ineffective, like he's just talking to a girl while she pours sugar. Which brings me back to "his speed with women, is not an indicator of his speed in a fight." Regarding the second video (fixed link for it here http://youtu.be...)... That has to be the single least impressive fight on any of these shows; the drone is mentioned but never seen, it never fires those mentioned bullets, and the one missile (singular not plural) is a still frame slow enough that most people could catch it and throw it somewhere. "yes his healing factor is not instant but it does give him a edge over the Arrow who has no healing factor at all." Sadly this was already self-refuted. Flash does not heal instantly, Arrow apparently (at least when in the presence of The Flash) does heal instantly, even from fatal injuries… "Arrow die's twice in their fight." Yet it did not slow him down. That Arrow is apparently immortal and recovers instantly from deaths (and probably paralysis) is news to me, but such only ruins The Flash's chances of defeating him. I suppose this means Ra's Al Ghul's sword was magic, but such is a weapon The Flash does not have access to. "At 1: 57 Arrow fell from the building backwards their for his arrow's would have fell out of his pack" I did not notice him lose his arrows, but I'll take your word for it that it happened… Much like dying twice, the loss of them also did not snow him down, as he somehow produced new ones on the spot to instantly continue the fight; this removes any ammo limitations he would have otherwise suffered from. "Spider-man" Spider-Man vs. Gwen Stacy, is not comparable to The Flash vs. Arrow, no matter how many links are given to the same video. Conclusion: They did fight, The Flash did not win. The main trust of each of Greener49's arguments have been refuted or were self-defeating (such as claiming Arrow died multiple times during the fight we all watched). Regardless of how anyone feels about the characters, the evidence presented in this debate is not in favor of The Flash winning, it actually suggests the near impossibility of that. Sources: [12] YouTube: Barry and Oliver train http://www.youtube.com... [13] http://www.merriam-webster.com... [14] http://www.merriam-webster.com...