The God Of The KJV Bible Is Purely Moral

You didn't mention why humans being property makes God immoral so i can dismiss that attack. And the bible doesn't say God is pro slavery. It does say that slaves shouldn't be mercilessly killed though. -Responses to Con's first section- What is the process is instantanious? This takes up no time at all. And you still didn't prove why it necessitates time. You merely stated it did. Because time doesn't exists. By telling they are different entities/objects. No because nothing can precede anything, time doesn't actually exist. Yes. We came up with the concept of time to explain things more easily. --- All types. To be fair i will rebuttal the clock experiment. The clocks were designed to measure this thing we call "time". But it is made up of matter that simply moves on a 3d plane. "Before" it reaches it's destination was simply located there. It moved but movement and time don't work together at all. Hence the clock experiment. Moved to different places and were affected by time differently. Time and movement are completely independent from each other. There may be a correlation but they still aren't directly linked in any way proved by the experiment. They are two completely different variables. Therefore motion cannot be used to prove the existense of time. --- When did quantum fluctuations start? --- The next argument by Con is useless. Think of quadratic functions. They are as simple as possible and are still incredibly hard to solve. Go show Homer a quadratic function and see how that ends up. It would just be alien to them. --- What a miracle. But it's just a theory. A possible explanation. --- But energy where exactly? How in litterally no space did it go down? It must be assumed at a single point beause space is finite in it's dimentions. --- What if it didn't take up time? Instantanious? --- Just because it wasn't included in our bodies doesn't mean he is restraining us. And he isn't, we can invent mind reading technology. --- Imagine but it isn't the case. --- No there can't. This argument is invalid via bad example. Mind reading is a specific ability where as morality is universally applicable and is a universal concept. --- He didn't create the idea. He created the entities that thought it up. --- Having free will means your choices are independent. Our choice has nothing to do with God. Declaring what will happen and doing something are different. --- But God didn't create evil. He created what created evil. Creation's fall into sin is it's own fault. Innocent? The person crashed, that isn't innocent. The person decided to drive after drinking. That means the person is guilty. --- That is based off of mortal ideals. In many cases being property is a good thing. Like a pet, we feed them and take them to the vet when they are sick. Not in all cases is being property bad. --- It isn't. --- His council does not mean his plan. It means him. Not his actions. He shall not fall. --- Bad example as earlier expressed. --- Con JUST admitted that the driver's free will is restrained when he wants to run someone over but can't beacuse of an action of the car company. --- The car's capabilities, the car isn't restraining the action. It didn't restrain anything. There is no action from the car company there. --- Bad example. We took "free will" too far. It would be better stated without the mind reading and flying car. We have free will in what we do have. The ability to move, which encompasses speech. We can choose a path of God or sin with what we already posess. This is what is meant by biblical free will. //////////// Bravo Con, this was great. Our fate is in the voter's hands now.