There is no hell

Thank you for your response. I read that you were Agnostic before, but you are right to say that in this debate it is irrelevant, and that is what I say as well. Point 1. You suggest that I will have to prove that there is such a thing as God, so it does not matter what angle you debate from because you are saying (in the debate) that God exists. When saying that I have to prove that God exists because it is not your burden of proof, it is completely your burden of proof by saying that you will debate as if God exists as well as it is mine. Point 2. I have heard by information on these religious experiences from other sources, sources that you might not find on the Internet, but I can almost guarantee that you will find some experiences like that on the Internet, and if you wish me to, I will find some source or sources. Point 3. How can Hell be real or metaphorical, I fail to see. One type of Hell could be a metaphor for any punishment that God gives us but by Hell I mean punishment given by God. The idea that God sends people to: e.g. (not necessarily a real idea) A tower of thorns. If this is a metaphor, then it is obviously not a real Hell. By saying that there is no Hell, I mean that there is no real Hell that a loving creator would send us to (a punishment). Point 4. I am afraid that, I worded my point wrong. I meant to say that there would have to be a reason associated with everything in the universe for it to be possibly infinitive. Also, if you use the example of the Big Bang, you can not suggest that there is such a thing as infinity because the Universe is said in one of the Big Bang theories, to be expanding and thus there is no infinity. You could I suppose argue using another idea that the Big Bang happened and moved on to infinity and is not still expanding but you would still remain wrong for you are suggesting that there could be infinitive reasons but how could they, because with reasons themselves, they would have to be associated with everything in your supposedly infinitive Universe, and you will have to prove how is that. Also by Hell I mean that there is no possible punishment that God intetionaly gives us, I do not mean any specific Hell, I mean any punishment given by God. Point 5. I do not mean that God has all the power there is known to us, otherwise why would he not destroy all sin and make sure that there is no opposite to him? Thus God can not necessarily foretell what will happen to us and even if he could, it is still not our fault that we have sinned because we only sin because of the opposite to God. If we are creation of God then we (mainly) would think like him and so how would justice as we know it be any different to the way that God (our creator) knows it. Point 6. If you are arguing, saying (in the debate) that God exists and have not yet proved that God is not a loving creator, I do not have to prove that there is not a Hell without the proof that I have not already given, so it is you who has the burden of proving against me. So I will just go over the proof that I have already given: a) God created us and so we cannot choose against him unless the Devil got into us b) It is either God or the opposite who is making us do the things that we do c) Humans are not powerful enough to choose unless there was a neutral force but how will there be able to be one, because is it not the Devil who makes do evil and if we are all Gods creation, why with this neutral force (if there is one) would we choose against God So you will have the burden of proving how that is incorrect. If that is all correct, then how is there Hell? We know justice because God created it and thus it is God whom sees justice the same way that we do. By justice I mean dealing with sinners and not punishing them, that is true justice. Your Point about God loving us and also punish us is incorrect. I will prove it here: 1 God's love to us makes us happy 2 If God punishes us and makes us sad If God loves us then why would he make us sad. We also associate God with kindness and if he is kindness, then why would he punish us. God is loving and he is not just love but also kindness. A God however that loves us, would not punish us if upsetting is a force of evil (Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin and Vlad the Impaler were upsetting people and that was not a thing of God to do) so upsetting is against God, and the fact that it is a punishment does not make it moral for Joseph Stalin and Mao could say correctly that they were punishing those who apposed them and surely that was not a thing of God to do. They might just be fighting back but if it was a punishment, surely you cannot say that it was not a moral thing to do. So if it is God, then God cannot punish and also love. Now I will just go through certain remarks you mad throughout the debate: 1. You suggest that when I said that Hell is tangible to the human soul and not the body you suggested (along with the reasons that I meant that was suggesting that the possible types of Hell could not be infinite) was what you were saying which is not the case because you stated the following: That I said that Hell is not tandgebal You may have meant that it is not tangible to the human body but to the soul is what I said but it did not look like that. 2. "Most people can only logically assume that Hell is not possible" that is probably right but from the evidence that I have given, that is more than assuming on my part and I am not debating on possibility or probability, but on fact if God exists and is a loving creator. These are my main points given and please tell me if I have missed anything or not explained something in such a way that you would understand. Thank you for replying and have a Good day :). Note: I may have made some spelling errors