Liberals are generally more pessimistic about success than conservatives or libertarians.

Welcome to the site. "It seems that you are categorizing all liberals into having the exact same beliefs." No. That is why I used the term "generally" in my debate topic. It is difficult to win a debate when one tries to pigeonhole and entire group of people. I realize there are exceptions. "Success does not come without help.... Everyone needs to be handed the necessary resources" I understand what you mean by this, so I won't twist your words. But I need to make it clear that you are playing with semantics here. I guess you could argue that even those who work hard to acquire the resources to succeed are eventually HANDED those resources-- like a winning athlete being handed his well-deserved trophy. But let's not confuse that with the multitude of unearned resources liberals want to hand out to those they believe are helpless without government. "If liberals were so pessimistic about people reaching success, then certainly, they would not waste their time making an effort to change that. They would see it as a situation where no matter what they do, that person does not have the capability to succeed." As I mentioned in my opening argument, liberals demonstrate their pessimism in people's ability to succeed (without government intervention) by supporting such intervention. Just the opposite of your statement is true: If liberals were OPTOMISTIC about people reaching success, then they would not waste their time making efforts to intervene. "liberals are indeed, OPTIMISTIC, and believe that the people that do not have a multi-millionaire father and a secure lifestyle to begin with can still aspire to be better than they started off with. They just need a little push." Again, you are confirming my argument that liberals believe people are not self-equipped to succeed. As you confirm with your statement, liberals think people "need a little push." "If you have ever seen the movie ‘The Pursuit of Happyness', you can see that many of businessmen that Will Smith encounters are very doubtful, and I can bet that many of those characters are very liberal. Yet, Will Smith's character was still given a chance." Great movie. If you paid close attention you'd notice that Will Smith's character worked his butt off to EARN any chance he was given. But in reality he was not GIVEN anything. It was he who GAVE the executives an chance to hire him. They did so because they rightly suspected he was the best candidate for the job. He went on to make the company millions of dollars. It was "evil" profit the executives were seeking when they hired Will Smith's character. Although most liberals believe the opposite, the profit motive does create good things like opportunity-- but usually only for those hard-working who truly deserve it. "If you propose that all liberals are pessimistic, then you are also proposing that all conservatives are optimistic." Your comment is irrelevant, because it is not my position that ALL liberals are pessimistic. I believe MOST liberals demonstrate that they are pessimistic. I also believe that MOST conservatives and libertarians demonstrate that they optimistic about anyone's ability to succeed in the U.S., regardless of the circumstances into which he was born.