Any attempt at arguing for an infinitely-intelligent, creator god is illogical

I am sorry, over the weekend i was deep in prayer for extra meaty pasta and did not have time to log on. I thank you for your patience. First I think I will disprove my opponents arguments. ::::::::::::::Something cannot be so complicated that it had to be designed:::::::::::::: "For example, a television set is not complicated for any other reason than because it has to be" On this argument me and Pro are in agreement. That is why The Flying Spaghetti Monster made us so complex for a reason. Without our complexity we would not be able to function at such a high level. We would be little more than animals. We are as complex as needed. No more no less. ::::::::::::::Things that are unnecessarily complex show a lack of understanding:::::::::::::: "If the television set were to have extra wires that did not impede nor benefit the system" Again we agree, this is further proof of the FSM's genius. Humans are a perfect organism. One of the only ones in the universe. He even put in a Sin-detecting organ called the appendix. That will explode at his command if the person is living a non pasta lifestyle. :::::::::::::To say that the universe is "finely tuned" is to say that the creator god is not omnipotent:::::::::: " The fact that he can "play the universe out of tune" suggests that he can create a flawed universe" He could if he wanted but why would he? You say that the fact that he could make a flawed universe is proof that he does not exist. If a gardener creates an irrigation system and sets up a harvesting system to automatically take care of his plants. Does it make him less of a gardener because he could have NOT set up the system? He did and that is all that matters. You are trying to use circular reasoning to prove a point that does not exist. ::::::::::::::Something cannot be conscious without demonstrating intelligence::::::::::::::: If FSM were a human living on earth I would agree with you. And due to personal experience when he came down from heaven and touched me with his noodly appendages I could see him demonstrating intelligence. But for those less blessed than me. He is an omniscient and omnipotent God. I don't think he spends his time (unlimited as it is) trying to impress humans. We are beneath him and need to prove our worthiness not him. :::::::::::::::It is not possible to demonstrate infinite intelligence and infinite power at the same time:::::::::::::::: "you cannot play a game of chess in order to show how smart you are, without first limiting yourself to the rules." Thank you for proving my above point. This is why he does not play human games of 'Proof' They are beneath him. "Demonstrations of omnipotence require the absence of limitations" I agree as provided above. "Demonstrations of consciousness require demonstrations of intelligence" He has demonstrated this for everyone by the creation of Existence. "Demonstrations of intelligence require the presence of limitations" Existence is limitless. There is no end to his creation therefore no limits. "Intelligence (limited) and Omnipotence (unlimited) are mutually exclusive" I agree that human intelligence and Omnipotence are. But Omniscient (god-like intelligence) and Omnipotence are not. Conclusion I applaud my opponent for taking on the burden of proof but i fear he has fallen far short of his goal. But never fear the FSM is all forgiving. That is why his son Jesus Christ died for pasta-related sins. As a great Pastafarian brother once said on his cable network. "Tides come in, the tides go out, you can't explain that" Checkmate Atheist