Gay Marriage

"It's legal to so unhealthy things, but it's not as if the government gets a jolt of glee every time someone eats a snack or smokes. " I suppose that's true, but: 1. The people running the government don't believe that homosexuality is unhealthy; thus they don't take action against it. 2. Homosexuality, if my cited sources are correct, is way more harmful than smoking or eating a twinkies bar. "They have the right to marry who they love. It's not actually taking away the fact that everyone else has a right accept for them. I'll go more into why your reasoning for it NOT being legalized is flawed. " The alcoholic wants to spend the rest of his life with his beer bottles, because he loves beer. It doesn't seem that valid a point to me. Anyway, my cited sources have suggested that they (homosexuals) are not usually faithful to their partners. "I need to know how this works. It very likely is cherry picking or just a false cause. .. " I'm sorry if you find this repetitive, but what Paul Cameron did was look through the obituaries of 6000 openly LGBT people. He found that out of these 6000 they had an average life span of 43 years. Now how do I know that he didn't cherry pick? I don't know this for a fact, but I'm pretty sure, because to cherry pick 6000 articles that favor your conclusion you have to look through a lot more than 6000 articles overall. I'd say perhaps 20,000 articles or more. If the number of gay people with this short a lifespan were really a minority, he'd have to look through perhaps 50,000+ obituaries. Now, just looking through 6000 obituaries would seriously tire me out. I couldn't possibly go through 50,000 obituaries or even 20,000 of them. It'd drive me bananas, and I'd likely give up before I completed 6000. So how do I know that it's not a "false cause? " Here's how false cause is defined: . https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com... Around 9 million Americans are LGBT, and I'm just going to assume that those numbers were close to the same in the year 1994, when the poll was conducted. . http://www.policymic.com... 6000 LGBT people make up around .067% of the total LGBT population, using the figures just provided. So, you're telling me that this guy took a look at 6000 random gay obituaries and most of these came from a very small minority group of LGBT people who don't live long? That's like randomly selecting 6000 Americans from various locations and most of them being Native Americans, a group that make up 0.9% of the US Population. . http://en.wikipedia.org... And please don't jump on me for using Wikipedia. Unless Paul Cameron was really lucky, a lot more than .067% of gays live short lives. Now that I've cleared that up, I'll move on. "There's no logic behind gay people living shorter lives. They would live even SHORTER lives if we suppressed their natural sexuality, as it would obviously cause them stress. " I'm not necessarily saying that homosexuality and alcoholicism are the same, (though they can both reduce life spans considerably), but that's like saying you should let an alcoholic go back to drinking because it'll cause them stress not to drink? Yes, alcohol withdrawal can be fatal, but I do not think this is the case for abstaining from the Gay lifestyle. I've never heard of someone dying because they switched from gay to straight, and there are at least a handful of Ex-Gay People . http://www.nytimes.com... "I don't think so. .. How would that work? Please show a source to prove that a gay persons brain can turn into that of a woman's. " I hope this is what you asked for: . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://psychology.about.com... Brains can be rewired in many ways and because of many factors, so why is it such a huge leap to believe that people's brains can be rewired to be gay? And why can't people's brains be rewired to become straight again? "I'm not really sure where my opponent is going with this here. He's really just trying to say that some gay people, (Like he admitted not all gays) molest people, therefore they should not have the right to marry. This isn't really a valid argument. The fact that most molestations and rapes are performed by straights nullify this argument. " Uh, okay. I guess I can give you this point, though I think you're wrong. Even if straight people did carry out most of the child molestation in the US, that's be expected, considering that straight people are the majority by far, the same way you'd expect most incarcerated people in the US to be white. "So you see, my opponents arguments revolves around the gay lifestyle involving terrible things, meaning for their own health they should not engage in this life style. " They do indeed engage in harmful activities, as my sources have said. "However, like I covered before, gay people are honestly gay. It's not as if they could change their sexuality. Con really shoots himself in the foot when he says that gays must have been raised in terrible households, as that would explain why they do such bad things! (Assuming they do. .. )" Forgive me for using the same link twice in one round, but. .. . http://www.nytimes.com... "Gay marriage is not supporting the lifestyle. Supporting gay marriage solely supports gay people having the right to marry. There is no correlation between allowing gay people to marry and allowing gay people to (Insert wicked thought here. .). " Fat people are less likely to be fat if you outlaw junk food, though a black market will appear. When you tell people that it's not okay to be a certain way, and society pressures them not to be this way, then they're less likely to be this way. Homosexual behavior should be banned, though there will always be somebody who's gonna act gay anyway. Also, consider the 1950s. If homosexuality is in fact a genetic thing, then there must've been thousands gay people back in the 1950s, in American society. Yet they got married to someone of the opposite gender and lived decent lives. "Cons rebuttal to this was saying legalizing something is saying it is okay to do. Even if we assumed that was the case, (Which I believe it's not. ) it's support of the marriage, not the lifestyle behind it. " Did marijuana legalized make more people smoke marijuana? How was this not endorsing it? I'm sorry if this last part's kind of weak, but I have to go.