Evolution is proven fact... god (thankfully) no matter which language you speak is not proven fact

backwardseden, you say that the things I said could be false and I could be lying. However, everything that I just listed is not only common sense that can be learned by anyone, but is completely backed-up with data and evidence. This is not a god-of-the-gaps argument. We don't know all these facts from things that we don't know, but rather from things we DO know about the universe and our reality. Most importantly, you should be asking yourself the question: "If evolution and atheism is true, why does it matter to lie?". That's your opinion. You denied that materialism is the complete trust (or faith) to take the side of the physical world which explains everything around us. The moment you say this is not true, and bring an immaterial argument, not only that shows you're not a materialist, evolutionist, and atheist, but you recognize the fact that there's something beyond human kind. So you don't believe in evolution then. Back to the main topic of this debate. Which explains reality better? Atheism or theism? I provided clear evidence from scientific data, evidence, conclusions, quotes and philosophy to show that there is a god. C.R.I.M.E.S. does not prove the god of the Bible specifically. For that, we must prove His existence through the Bible and its truth. I will now provide clear evidence that supports the God of the Bible. Are miracles possible? If we look back at the cosmological argument, which states that the Big Bang not only came from nothing but did it with great precision, we now know that the first verse of the Bible (In the beginning, God created the heavens and earth) is at least possible. If this verse is true, ALL the other verses in the Bible are at least possible. Why? IF God really did create the heavens and earth, can he walk on water? Sure He can! He created water. Can he turn water into wine? Of course he can. Can he raise people from the dead? Of course, He created life! Well, evidence shows the first verse is true. God can do whatever He wants that is not illogically possible. What do I mean by that? There are some things that God cannot do because it's not logical. Like create an one ended stick. Or create a square circle. Even you can do things God can't do. Lie, sin, change, or make mistakes. God is perfect, why is He going to sin or change? If He could change, He wouldn't be the standard of perfection that makes Him God. He is the standard by which everything else is measured. Now let's go to the second point. Is the New Testament True? You might ask: Well, why not the Old Testament? Because if we can show proof that the New Testament is true, the Old Testament is automatically true. Why? Because Jesus is in the Old Testament. If he validates and supports the Old Testament, then we can proof it by understanding the New Testament. Jesus taught that the entire Old Testament is not only true, but is also the Word of God. Now, I will show evidence that the New Testament is true by using The Five E's argument. 1. Early Testimony Most if not all of the New Testament documents are written prior to 70 A.D. We have eye witness accounts. Specific and sharp details that could only be written by eye witness accounts. In the Book of Acts there is about 84 eye witness testimonies from chapter 13 to chapter 28. Gospel of John has about 59 of these as well. These eye witness testimonies are highly accurate historically and in detail. Denying the New Testament is reliable by looking at the eye witness accounts is like saying the Titanic never sunk. How do we know that the Titanic sank? None of us saw it sink. The oldest person to have seen it sink is no longer alive. Well, we have eye witness testimonies that have deep detail about the event, we have archaeological evidence this happened, and we even have the Titanic at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. Or is like saying George Washington never existed. Yet we have eye witness testimonies and historical records. 2. Embarrassing Testimony There is a lot of embarrassing details in the Bible that would have never been made up. For example, all disciples run away from Jesus, who they thought they trusted, at the moment of the crucifixion. And while they were running away, who were the brave ones? The women were the brave ones! You don't lie to make yourself look bad. Sure maybe we've done it a few moments under specific conditions, but never enough to write a whole book about your mistakes and who you really are. Both in the New and Old Testament are filled with the most sinful persons. For example, King David. He is supposed to be a figure we all look up to. He is a man after God. But what does he do? He lies, he commits adultery, he commits rape, he murders one of his soldiers because of fear that his evil deeds are seen. And he is supposed to be a hero? God tells the sins, brokenness, mistakes, flaws, and darkest of deeds of every character in the Bible. This shows you this is not invented. 3. Excruciating Testimony Looking at all the historical eye witness testimonies, we know that all the apostles and followers of Jesus are tortured and killed in the most horrific ways. And they could have all avoided their death by simply denying that Jesus didn't raise from the death. Or at least, they could've prolonged their lives. If Christianity isn't true and it's just a joke, or a lie, why would they risk everything they have? Including their lives? In fact, let me give you a quick summary of the evidence that shows how these events happened, to some of the apostles. Matthew - Killed by stabbing as ordered by King Hircanus. Mark - Burned during Roman Emperor Trajan's reign. Peter - Crucified upside-down by the gardens Nero on the Vatican Hill circa 64 A.D. Andrew - crucified on an "X" shaped cross by Aegeas, governor of the Edessenes, around 80 A.D. 4. Extra Biblical Testimony There are many non-biblical testimonies about the Bible and Jesus that further prove the reliability of the Bible and the evidence. To give you an example: We have Flavius Jesephus. He was a Jewish historian born around 38 A.D. He also served the Roman commander who was Vespasian in Jerusalem until the destruction of the city came. He wrote "Antiquities of the Jews". This mentions data and historical testimonies that prove Bible verses. This is what he wrote: "At this time there was a wise man who called Jesus. And his conduct was good, as he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive..." 5. Expected Testimony Prophecies of Jesus were written in the Old Testament that were before 700 years in advance. These prophecies further support the truth of the Bible because it stays congruent and claims something that will absolutely happen. The Old Testament is filled with prophecies because these would support the truth of the Bible. Jesus knew this. That's why he performed miracles. Jesus knew that anyone could claim to be the Son of God, and he used miracles and prophecies to prove that he was really the Messiah, since he had authority over evil, disease, natural disasters, evil, and nature. These are some of the reasons why the New and Old Testament really are true. If the Bible is true, and proves that God is real though the words and evidences we have, He exists. There are many other reasons why I believe evidence points toward the God of the Bible. The C.R.I.M.E.S. and Five E's arguments clearly show that there is not only a theistic god but that the God of the Bible is true. Now, before we continue, I am well aware that I just gave a lot of information in the last two rounds. backwardseden might not be able to talk about every point I made, so he can pin point to a specific topic he would want to focus on. I gave all this information because I not only have the responsibility of supporting my world view, but he also asked me the question. backwardseden may want to further talk about who God is and His nature. For that, he must present specific questions because I have given the overall view and summary of why God exists and why Christianity is the best explanation of our reality. However, he must also support his worldview. To backwardseden, I ask, if evolution is real, and it brought us to this point, why is your moral sense different than anyone else. Without a standard of good which is God, our moral sense is no better than Hitler's. So why is your moral sense better than his?