Naruto seriously owns Bleach.

Given that there are around 9,000 pages in the Bleach manga and about 11,000 pages in the Naruto manga, it must be a real pein (lol) to find the right page. I would first like to address my opponent's most powerful and damning argument, the sexy technique. While Naruto may seem appealing to many many younger boys, it is important to remember that Naruto is still a man, so any "thoughts" one may have, are basically "thoughts" about another man, or at best, a tranny. While there is nothing wrong with those kind of "thoughts" (THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! !! ) they are not "thoughts" held by a majority of young boys and so I believe that it will actually hurt more than help Naruto. On to the other, minor points of these debate (let's face it, everything is about boobs, the rest of the stuff, plot, fights, talking, is all just filler, but it still needs to be addressed), I will defend against my opponent's arguments and than make my own. 1. Plot "The first Captain (highest ranked soul reaper) that Ichigo fights is Zaraki Kenpachi. .. " We have to remember that no character is stagnant. Kenpachi is a character that enjoys fighting and growing stronger more than anyone, so it would be only natural to assume that his strength is capable of growing rapidly through his training. He was able to become one of the most powerful captians without even having a bankai, through shear training alone. This training is mostly tied to his eye patch [1]. It drains his energy, making him grow stronger while doing more minimal tasks. Much like running with weights to increase the effect of the trainning. "Aizen forgets how to use Kyï¿½ï¿½ka Suigetsu during the final battle with Ichigo. .. " This is actually not true. Since Ichigo has not seen the release of his zanpatuko, he cannot be effected by it [2]. This means that Aizen would have to fight by other means. Now some may say that Aizen could have just released his zanpatuko in the battle to control Ichigo's senses, but we can see that Aizen has never been able to control someone through that method. Everyone that he has controled, he has gotten them under his control by showing it to them when they were not fighting him (namely showing it off to the captians and the espada). "One of the most intriguing aspects of Bleach has been the main villain Aizen. .. " This, I can't disagree with too much. I also had issues with how the story ended at that point. However, it was far less of a disappointment than the Naruto vs Pain arc, of which after a rather awesome battle, Naruto finds Nagato (Pain) and decides that he will not fight him. This makes Nagato somehow decide to sacrifice his life to undo all the damage and death that he has done in the battle [3]. No battle at all. It is nice to idealise that words alone can change people, but words with no backing behind them are sad. Naruto is basically saying "you are trying to kill a lot of people and should stop, but I'm not going to stop you if you continue," and just crosses his fingers. Now had Naruto been prepared to fight and Nagato saw the light on his own before a fight broke out, that would be cool. 2) Characters "Character development in Naruto > character development in Bleach. Why? We need only look at the two protagonists. .. " Actually, any story relies on a lot more than just the one main character, so looking at those two is not very accurate. In Bleach, there are many more characters which have developed greatly, from Inoue, Chad, Uryu (especially in the current arc), to the captains to even Grimmjow and Ulquiorra. We have even seen several times a growing development between Ichigo and his zanapuko and recent developments pointing to an upcoming scenes with his father [11]. My opponent states that the lines of Good and Evil are often blurred in Naruto, but this is also the case Bleach. The very fact that Aizen was not some always evil spirit, but a member of the "good guys," to the way that soul society ("good guys") handles some issues (like executing Rukia [4]). One biggest forms of Naruto's maturity evolution is his speech with Nagatu, saying that he plans on breaking the cycle of hate, and refusing to fight because that would continue the cycle of hate (despite the fact that Nagatu had killed Kakashi and Hinita at that time, which thousands more), but we can see in the very latest chapter, that Naruto is willing to fight against his own allys [5], a complete flip from previous. 3) The fights "The fights in Naruto are simply more varied, original and interesting than in Bleach. " Having more moves does not make a battle more interesting, but if we choose to use that standard, it is well noted that every single captain in Bleach has a different Bankai, their Zanapukos take on different forms (so they are fighting with different weapons), and they have countless different types of kidos. However, Naruto likes to just make stuff up on the spot. Nagato is a perfect example of this. After the battles, with countless dead, Nagato pulls a made up move out of his back side, that allows EVERYONE TO BE REVIVED [3]. So rather than using skills that they already know to combat a challenge, they simply make up something new. This is just as bad, if not worse, than saying they simply over-powered it. 4) Art work This point wasn't brought up by my opponent, which understandibly is minor, falling behind other aspects, but still needs addressing. There are really two different forms of art work that needs to be considered. That of the characters when they are fighting, and when they are not. Let us compare two recent images for fights, Bleach [6] and Naruto [7], as well as non fights, Bleach [8] and Naruto [9]. In both cases, Bleach puts more detail into the characters and attacks. I can actually go back to the first time I conciously noticed a decline in the artwork for Naruto, as it was long before this debate even got me thinking about it. Here, Madara has almost no detail at all in thie entire chapter, Sasuke doesn't have much either [10]. [1] . http://read.homeunix.com... c101-200/Bleach c113/[manga-rain]bleach-ch113-05. png [2] . http://read.homeunix.com... c101-200/Bleach c171/[manga-rain]bleach-ch171-13. png&server=nas. html [3] . http://read.homeunix.com... c449/01. png&server=nas. html [4] . http://read.homeunix.com... c101-200/Bleach c150/[manga-rain]bleach-ch150-06. png&server=nas. html [5] . http://read.homeunix.com... c541/009. png&server=nas. html [6] . http://read.homeunix.com... c350/17. jpg&server=nas. html [7] . http://read.homeunix.com... c441/17. png&server=nas. html [8] . http://read.homeunix.com... c365/05. jpg&server=nas. html [9] . http://read.homeunix.com... c440/11. png&server=nas. html [10] . http://read.homeunix.com... c301-400/Naruto c397/ch397_UK_Page_15. jpg&server=nas. html [11] . http://read.homeunix.com... c448/020. png&server=nas. html