The Existence of God

1)) The existence of God is not ridiculous but necessary for by very definition "he"s the Supreme Being and the Creator of all things". It takes more faith to believe that our world came into existence without a cause. It"s because in our world, every living thing that exists has a cause and the cause is always living not non-living. Hence, belief in God is not ridiculous at all but logical per se. 2)) Science operates on induction. The inductive method entails searching out things in the world and drawing generalized conclusions about those things based on observation. Scientists can only draw conclusions on what they find, not on what they can't find. Since science, by its very nature, is never capable of proving the non-existence of anything, one can never accurately claim that science has proven God doesn't exist. That's a misuse of the discipline. Such a claim would require omniscience. The only way one can say a thing does not exist is not by using the inductive method, but by using a deductive method, by showing that there's something about the concept itself that is contradictory. This means, by the way, that all inductive knowledge is contingent. One cannot know anything inductively with absolute certainty. The inductive method gives us knowledge that is only probably true. Science, therefore, cannot be certain about anything in an absolute sense. It can provide a high degree of confidence based on evidence that strongly justifies scientific conclusions, but its method never allows certainty. 3)) The God of Christianity is reasonable per se. His message to mankind is recorded by his people and remains infallible up to date with no contradictions but in all things, fits the reality and facts in our world. It"s veracity is seen in various ways: 1) Inspiration (the cause of infallibility) 2) History (the evidence of its veracity) 3) distinctive holy lives (the force of its veracity). If these are untrue, I would be an Atheist. Faith fits the facts. The Bible presented the beginning and ending of the universe with its purpose. It means it is not ambiguous about the reality and facts we are in. Throughout these ages its truth is just as clear as in its inception. To share it to you explicitly I will all-caps the Bible"s entire message: 1. GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE AND ALL THAT IS IN IT. HE CREATED TWO SENTIENT BEINGS: THE ANGELS AND HUMANS. THE FORMER WAS CREATED FIRST AND THEN SOME DISOBEYS HIS LAW WHILE THE LATTER WAS CREATED ON THE SIX DAY AND ALSO DISOBEYS HIS LAW. 1.1GOD KNEW BEFOREHAND THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN BUT HE STILL CONTINUE TO CREATE BECAUSE OF ONE CLEAR PURPOSE: HIS GLORY. 2. THOSE WHO DISOBEYED (I.E. LUCIFER, 1/3 OF OTHER ANGELS, ADAM AND EVE) WERE EXTERMINATED THEIR FREE WILL TO OBEY AND THAT IS WHY THEY WERE CONDEMNED TO HELL. (IN THIS GOD"S JUSTICE WAS SHOWN) 2.1 GOD KNEW BEFOREHAND THAT NOT ALL ANGELS WILL DISOBEY THAT IS WHY HE STILL CREATED THE ANGELS. 2.2 GOD KNEW BEFOREHAND THAT ADAM AND EVE WILL DISOBEY BUT HE STILL CREATED THEM BECAUSE HE PLANNED BEFOREHAND THEIR CREATION IN HIS SOVEREIGNTY TO PROVIDE SALVATION BY CHOOSING SOME HUMANS TO SAVE BY HIS OWN SON THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT. HENCE, SALVATION FROM HELL AND RECONCILIATION IS DONE BY GOD ALONE ( I.E MONERGISM) NOT WITH MAN"S COOPERATION (I.E. SYNERGISM). ( IN THIS GOD"S GRACE IS SHOWN) IT WAS THOSE HUMANS CHOSEN TO SALVATION BY GOD BEFORE CREATION THAT CHRIST DIED FOR. ALL OF THEM WILL RECEIVE THIS FREE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE WITH GOD AND THEY WILL EXPERIENCE GOD"S PRESENCE BOTH IN FAITH AND RATIONALITY, IN DEEDS AND WORDS. ALL OF THESE ARE INEVITABLE. (THE BIBLE WARNS FALSE/FAKE CHRISTIANS. HENCE, ATHEISTS CANNOT GENERALIZE THAT ALL WHO CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN REPRESENTS AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANITY). THERE"S ALWAYS A RULE: FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD (JAMES 2:26). TRUE CHRISTIANS WILL INEVITABLY SHOW THEIR FAITH EXPRESSED IN LOVE THROUGH WORKS. THOSE WHO FAIL WITH THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT PART OF THE CHURCH EVEN THEY CLAIM TO. NOTE: THE SAVED PEOPLE ON EARTH STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO SIN BECAUSE THEIR FREE WILL TO DISOBEY WASN"T YET EXTERMIONATED BUT THIS IS A FACT: A SAVED PERSON HAS FREE WILL 1]TO DISOBEY (CONSEQUENCE IS NOT CONDEMNATION IN HELL BUT CHASTISEMENT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO OBEY ) AND 2] TO OBEY ( CONSEQUENCE IS NOT ETERNAL LIFE OR ENTRANCE TO HEAVEN FOR THEY ALREADY HAVE IT BUT ONLY BLESSINGS PLUS PERSECUTION -- LOL THAT IS WHAT WAS WRITTEN). ALL SAVED PEOPLE WHO DIED ( ON THIS AGE) OR RESURRECTED ( AT CHRIST"S COMING) WILL HAVE THEIR FREE WILL TO DISOBEY EXTERMINATED AND HENCE, BOTH ANGELS AND HUMANS WILL HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD ETERNALLY ( THE REST IN HELL). YES. IT TOOK THIS LONG TO PRODUCE HOLY BEINGS. AUTHENTIC HOLINESS NOT ROBOTICS IN SORT. "YOU MAY RECEIVE JESUS TODAY AS YOUR ONLY SAVIOR FROM HELL. YOU DON"T NEED TO DO ANYTHING. JUST TRUST HIM ALONE AS YOUR RESCUER FROM HELL AND SIN. HE PROMISES SALVATION FROM HELL AND FROM SIN. IF YOU RECEIVED HIM THEN THIS IS A PROOF THAT YOU WERE ONE OF THE CHOSEN ONES AND HENCE, YOU WILL INEVITABLY DO WHAT HE SAYS. IF YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE HIM, YOU WILL REMAIN IN YOUR STATE OF CONDEMNATION AND IS A PROOF THAT YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE CHOSEN ONES." 3. THOSE WHO OBEYED (I.E. THE OTHER ANGELS) WERE EXTERMINATED OF THEIR FREE WILL TO DISOBEY AND WERE ELECTED BY GOD TO ETERNAL LIFE WITH HIM BY THEIR CHOICE. (IN THIS GOD"S HOLINESS WAS SHOWN) 4. OVERALL, GOD IS THE "CREATOR" OF ALL GOOD THINGS ( THAT"S OBVIOUS) AND HE ONLY "ALLOWED" EVIL TO EXIST FOR A SINGLE PUPOSE: HIS GLORY. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. OF COURSE, ALL HAPPENED BECAUSE OF HIS INHERENT SOVEREIGNITY. INDEED, IF HE"S A GOOD GOD THEN HIS PLANS ARE GOOD TOO AND WE OURSELVES TESTIFIES ABOUT IT IN HIS SCRIPTURE WITH OUR EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGE IN EVERY FACTS AND REALITY WE ARE IN. THESE PER SE IS VERY LOGICAL. " Sola Fide, Sola Deo Gloria, sola gratia, sola christus, sola scriptura Any questions? I"m happy to give an answer. Btw, you didn"t refuted my arguments at all. Anyway, your welcome and I hope debating with you again on this same subject matter of atheism versus theism. Thank You! To all our readers, you may freely scrutinize the whole debate so as to judge wisely who"s the winner. Thank You!