Lincoln was the most 'liberal' president of all time; his supporters are NOT conservatives!

Mr. Clsmooth this is as fair a debate as being against the topic Bill Clinton is a liar. Of course Abraham Lincoln was a liberal, government loving, opposition towards the free market and free speech. This is common sense, anyone that has studied history knows that the above topic is accurate except for the latter end of the statement. Look I should probably not have accepted this debate but since you were not responding to my comments on my anti-confederate flag debate I decided this was probably the best way to speak to you. I agreed to debate you against the statements you made in the comments section that are untrue, pathetic,naive,false,moronic, and stupidity in its truest form. For instance: "By the way, JLLiberal is a perfect example of what government indoctrination centres (public schools) do to the mind. He is like an Orwellian caricature." "First, he's a government-worshiping, central-statist liberal calling himself a conservative; and then he has the audacity to suggest I learned an Austro-Jeffersonian perspective from the Lincoln-worshiping, government-exalting concentration camp I was forced to attend from age 5 to age 18. Oh boy, another liberal passing himself off to students as a conservative and thus turning them against conservatism... If the neocons aren't part of the Left's master plan, then they are certainly doing their bidding." You offended the hell out of me, by suggesting such things, as listed above I get more crap for being a part of the republican party every day that you have your entire life, and to suggest I am part of the government worshiping, central-statistic liberal, to me is insulting. Also you made these statements "A better way of saying it would be to call Hitler the German Lincoln. Hitler praised Lincoln in Mein Kampf for destroying state's rights and centralizing authority." which of course is absurd and ridicules you make a debate and topic it " Hitler was the German Lincoln" I will debate you then, this topic is as moronic as arguing if a demoractic president would be good for this country, its common knowledge and a pointless debate that one wouldn't be. Also I wanted to apologize for my jab about Ron Paul, I agree with Mr. Paul on many many things, but I do not believe that he is strong enough on his views about radical Islam and its threat to our national security, however his economics,immigration,taxation, and health care views are perfect. However its clear to me at least that he is not going to be elected as the nominee and I am afraid that most of you guys are jumping ship to support McCain which is scary. And final about Lincoln yes he was an extreme liberal, he supported strong government and little individual rights, he did have his own secret police, he did many things that in this day would be considered communistic ideas however to call him a Hitler is almost a disgrace, Many Southern states made it clear that if Lincoln was elected, they would secede (leave the Union). The South was against Lincoln because he opposed slavery. South Carolina was the first to secede in December 1860. Six other Southern states followed: Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas. After Lincoln's inauguration, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina also left the Union. These states became known as the Confederacy. The secession of the Southern states led to the first shots of the Civil War when the Confederates seized Fort Sumter in South Carolina in April 1861. Lincoln faced the greatest national crisis of any U.S. President. He hated war and the death and destruction it would bring. However, he accepted war as the only means of saving the Union. He warned the South in his Inaugural Address: "In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The government will not assail you... You have no oath registered in Heaven to destroy the government, while I shall have the most solemn one to preserve, protect and defend it." (Abraham Lincoln Web Site) As the nation neared the third year of the bloody Civil War, President Lincoln issued the historic Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free." This proclamation actually freed few people. It did not apply to slaves in the Border States of Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware; nor did it affect slaves in southern areas already under Union control. Naturally, the states that had seceded did not act on Lincoln's orders. But the proclamation showed Americans — and the world — that the war was being fought to end slavery. Although the Emancipation Proclamation did not immediately free a single slave, it changed the way black men were accepted during the war. Black men could join the Union Army and Navy. The liberated could become the liberators. By the end of the war, nearly 200,000 black soldiers and sailors fought for the Union and freedom. On November 19, 1863, President Lincoln gave his famous Gettysburg Address in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. The speech dedicated the battlefield to the soldiers who had died there. The battle site became a military cemetery. Lincoln stated in his moving speech: "...we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." (The National Archives.) You insulted me in your comments don't take my apologies as being friendly and I look forward to obliterating you in a debate, however make it a topic that is not so obviously started in order for you to win an easy non-controversial topic that no one is denying.