The Christian God Exists

“You insulted the perfect law so I defended it. I never claimed that the fact that the Israelis loved it meant it was from God. ” I did not insult Old Testament Law. I merely refuted his argument. If his argument was not for the existence of god then he is not arguing the resolution. “The Earth is either a cube or it is circular. Those who seek for the truth in the Bible can know when the Bible is using a metaphor and when it is literal easily by the context. If someone now said "I've been searching for you to the corners of the Earth" do you assume he thinks the Earth is a cube? That would be idiotic. And there is nothing absurd with God setting up a tent on a sphere. After all, we are on a sphere, aren't we? And many set up tents on this sphere. ” Pro apparently gives up his claim that the bible had scientific foreknowledge about the shape of the earth. If we can take the cube part as a metaphor why can’t we also take the circle (not sphere) part as a metaphor? “My sources indicate that the prophecy was written long before Cyrus was even born. I even included the years everything happened AFTER the prophecy was written. Everything fulfilled to the smallest detail. I'm not sure I addressed this before so I will do it now. You said anyone can predict the downfall of the most powerful city. How about being right about the name of who will do it, and specifically how he will do it, hundreds of years before it happens. Can anybody do that? You think it was coincidence that the first emperor called Cyrus successfully conquered Babylon without a fight because the gates were carelessly left open just like the Bible said? ” Your “sources” are one Jehovah’s Witness website that can hardly be considered reliable. I gave two sources, one of which was a scholarly book focused on dating much of the Old Testament, making an opposite claim. At the very least it is widely contested. (. http://www.britannica.com...) Either way there is no reason to believe this prophecy came from god when there is contrary evidence. It is certainly not a serious argument for the existence of god. “I already explained what the Egypt prophecy means. The Nile is just part of that prophecy. What does it mean? You might find the answer if you do a careful research of the importance of the Nile river to the Egyptians. The desolation most likely isn't symbolic, though. ‘After the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 B. C. E. , the remnant of Judah fled to Egypt despite the prophet Jeremiah"s warning. (Jeremiah 24:1, 8-10; 42:7-22) That did not prove to be an escape for them because Nebuchadnezzar came up against Egypt and conquered it. The 40-year desolation of Egypt may have followed that conquest. While secular history provides no evidence of this desolation, we can be confident that it took place because Jehovah is the Fulfiller of prophecy. "Isaiah 55:11. ’” If many prophecies are symbolic how can you possibly decipher which ones are literal and which ones are metaphors? Do you call the one’s that “allegedly” come true literal while all the others are metaphors? “Everything with practical wisdom is not from God. But something from God is expected to have practical wisdom. I don't see how this is hard to understand. ” It isn’t but Pro is supposed to be making arguments for the existence of god. Apparently this is not one of them. “Why do we suffer? Why does a completely loving and good God allow suffering? Will God end suffering? If so, why does he wait so long? It's all explained here” First of all you should not do your arguing with sources. The voters should not have to go through every source you provide just because you don’t want to formulate the arguments yourself. Here are the main arguments from the source: “Do you know why people make the mistake of blaming God for all the suffering in the world? In many cases, they blame Almighty God because they think that he is the real ruler of this world. 1. They do not know a simple but important truth that the Bible teaches. You learned that truth in Chapter 3 of this book. The real ruler of this world is Satan the Devil. ” 2. “A second reason why there is so much suffering is that, as discussed in Chapter 3, mankind has been imperfect and sinful ever since the rebellion in the garden of Eden. Sinful humans tend to struggle for dominance, and this results in wars, oppression, and suffering. ” 3. A third reason for suffering is “time and unforeseen occurrence. ” (Ecclesiastes 9:11) In a world without Jehovah as a protective Ruler, people may suffer because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. 4. Adam and Eve rebelled against Jehovah. In effect, they said: ‘We do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong. ’ How could Jehovah settle that issue? How could he teach all intelligent creatures that the rebels were wrong and that his way truly is best? Someone might say that God should simply have destroyed the rebels and made a fresh start. But Jehovah had stated his purpose to fill the earth with the offspring of Adam and Eve, and he wanted them to live in an earthly paradise. All of these arguments are simply absurd. The first one completely contradicts god’s omnipotence. God would still have the power to stop evil. The second one makes the same mistake. Our “sins” could be ended in a second by an omnipotent god. The third contradicts god’s omnipresence which was clarified in the rules. The fourth also contradicts god’s omnipotence. He could have snapped his fingers to fix our “rebelliousness”, if he existed. Conclusion Pro has failed to fulfill his burden as stated in the rules. The majority of his arguments were completely false and he failed to refute mine. Here is how the voting should go: Sources and Conduct: Me for Pro’s plagiarism Arguments: Me because Pro did not fulfill his BoP.