God is a harmful concept to human advancement.

I think I will start at your last point I should think, just for sake of clarity, spirituality is a religious belief by definition. Hinduism do believe in one god in the form of an energy called Brahman manifesting in different ways. Buddhism is spiritual/ god worshiping (theistic) thus a religion. 1 Why is having a morality given to you (by a flawed book for example) any better than witnessing the world and how best to treat others by experience of reality and application of logic. 2 I ask you, what is the difference between a atheist who, as you put it, "does what is right in their own eyes" and a theist willing to believe in a flawed book that is "right in their own eyes"? And also, how is it in any way proper to assert that inconsistent multiple different moralities are bad, where one whole inconsistent morality that can be interpreted in many ways is any different? 3 his is perhaps a rhetorical question, thus I apologize: But how can you say that hell is simply a place without god when it is described in the sacred text of Christianity, thusly "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur" Revelations 21:8 4 Would a non-hateful god send Jesus to the world but allow with crossed arms unimaginable suffering for tens of thousands of years before that. Do you mean to tell me that your loving god watched this with indifference? Is genocide loving (flood)? is emotional torture loving (Issac) Is saying that Gods jealousy is okay but that of people is a sin, even when that emotional response would have had to have been included in gods design for humans, really true? 5 How can you tell people to stop having sex when god supposedly gave us our libidos, and then told us not to use them, does that sound loving? To me it sounds rather cruel. Like waving meant in front if a starving dog. 6 Was Galileo not tortured for his scientific ideas until he recanted? Is this not hindering to Science 7 (Just a clarification you could respond to) I think you know very well that when I say God endorsed slavery in the bible, I think we both know it was not mutually consensual. 8 "Faith is believing in evidence, not the conclusion" When I say that there is a ghost in the house, and you hear a noise, many people assume it is the ghost. Is not the same true of religion, is it not? You hear about god as a child, and then you develop your own evidence for it, Not (I must stress not) the other way around. 9- "Science is based off reasoning, not logic" Reason is by definition; "the power to think, understand and draw conclusions LOGICALLY" - Oxford English dictionary Why do you believe in God?- Did someone else tell you about god? Are many people about you Christian? Is it possible there is a pattern here? What religion do you think an Arab would have, or a South-American I ask you. (?) 10 Do you agree with the following statement and why?: Religion always seems to try to prove itself right, but science tries to prove itself wrong, as if something is true, it can take it. 11 Why do you think god ordered his people to circumcise infant boys?- is this loving, taking a choice away from them? 12 Why does a loving God allow injustice in the world? A} He can't B} He doesn't want to C} He does't care D} He wants us to solve it ourselves (despite seeing that this does not happen and causes great suffering) E} Other? 13 (I'll make this one ominously appropriate) Does the placebo effect have any effect on the religious? 14 Can you think of any morally good thing that a theist can do that an atheist cannot? 15 Can you think of a morally evil thing that a theist could do that an atheist could not? 16 Why would a Loving god create so many homosexuals just to forbid them from heaven? 17 Why did god create psychopaths despite stating that humans are made in Gods image? 18 Why are there no women disciples? 19 Why are there so many different versions of Christianity? Surely they can't all be correct no? 20 How do people come to believe in false religions? Which you must think exist, as it comes with the territory, does it not? I'm not going to lie, I really wanted to make it to twenty, though I completely understand if you can't challenge all of them in round 4 (round 3 should really be questions for me) NOTE TO VOTERS Please do not penalize either debater for failing to answer some of the questions. as it takes rather more words to respond than to ask. To my opponent; Thanks again, And I have much respect for your eloquence, 'tis refreshing