The Umbrella Academy could defeat the Minute Men.

Now for some rebuttals: 1: Nite Owl (Great Spelling there Moore) DOESN'T have Magic. At least not according to A. ) The Comic or B. ) Your Link 2: What's not cool about him? How about his impotency? 3: Spectre is also kind of a. .. .well I think she's probably slept with every member of the team. Except for Rorschach. Because he is way too awesome for her. .. (I know these don't really have anything to do with the battle, but somtimes I just gotta Troll. .. ) I will admit that my opponent is right about one thing, Kraken and Spaceboy DO fight a lot, sometimes to the point of almost seriously hurting one another. But they never do. In fact, their relationship is a lot like that of Leonardo and Raphael, they fight a LOT and have almost killed each-other on a few occasions. But when the chips are down, they've got each-others backs, just like Kraken and Space. If you read the comics, you'll notice that they fight each-other when there's no-one else to focus their rage on. But once there's a common enemy, they'll put aside their differences and kick @$$. For all their constant bickering, Spaceboy, being the archetypal superhero that he is, still saves Kraken on multiple occasions such as Blasting a Terminaut about to kill the brother he was about to fry himself only minutes ago. (Apocalypse Suite, Chapter 3) When Spaceboy becomes depressed and unwilling to do anything but eat and watch TV, it's Kraken who is able to get him up and hero-ing again. As for the fight between the two teams: N. O. vs Spaceboy- You said that Spaceboy doesn't stand a chance against the Owlship with it's "numerous chain guns". (which, by the way are only in the Film version, but since I didn't specify that they were the limited to the comics, I can't complain) However, the Owlship - while heavily armed- is also quite bulky. Just look at the design, it's used more for patrol/intimidation etc and doesn't seem to move all that fast. Compare this two Spaceboy's jetback, which is not only powerful enough to carry his weight, but allows him to dodge energy-beams quite easily (Same Chapter) Let's also take into account the fact that Spaceboy has at LEAST twenty years worth of flying eperience, even as a kid he used some form of Anti-Gravity Belt (Vol 1, Page 17) Something as slowmoving as the Owlship (hell, even Nite Owl said he modelled it on an AIRSHIP, which is fancy talk for hot-air balloons and such) shoudln't be that difficult to outmaneuver. You said this battle was set in NYC, ergo there are many buildings, meaning that Luther can go more places that Dan can't (in between buildings etc) and could easily shake the Owlship. All he has to do then is come around behind the ship and either: a. ) Shoot it with his laser pistol. b. ) Smash it with something really heavy or c. ) Rip open the door and snap Dan like a twig. Kraken vs Spectre- I don't see what a lack of water has to do with anything. Laurie IS a formidable fighter and probably COULD beat Deigo hand-to-hand. Diego has an edge however (no pun intended) as his throwing proficiency gives him greater range. Yes, Laurie held her own against a gang of thugs with knives, but again, even as a child Kraken could still kill Zombie Robot Gustave Eiffel with a single blade to the head (Apocolypse Suite, Chapter 1) and has had 20+ years to train and hone his technique. As I mentioned earlier, he is still fast enough to hold his own against several "vampires" and given the special military training he no doubt recieved on top of that, Kraken will be able to use his surroundings to his advantage, vanishing into the city and striking from the shadows. All it would take is a severed Achilles tendon and she'd be done. Additionally, he could lure her into a closed off building and cause a gas leak, then all he has to do is stay out of reach (infinite breath-holding remember) and wait until she either collapses or has to get away so she can breathe. Now to the next part of this argument: In the comments section my opponent chose Ozymandias and Dr. Manhatten as his next dynamite duo, so I shall counter with The Rumour and The Boy. Rumour vs Dr. Manhattan: I see my opponent wishes to use his big gun right away. Very well. Admitedly Jon is the one I'm most worried about, as the full extent of his powers are unknown. The same, however, can be said of the Rumour, whose statements become the truth, altering reality itself. It's never been stated what the scale of her power is, judging from what has been demonstrated in the comics, the potential is really high. Firstly, she's been able to influence a crowd of panicked strangers (Vol 1, Chapter 1) She is seen to be able to create doppelgangers that can function independantly and die seperately- although pressumably not possesing the same abilities. (Vol 1. BONUS STORY- But the past ain't done with you) She spontaneously created a giant living statue of John Wilkes Both armed with a functional derringer (Vol 2, page 14) and caused the head of JFK to be blown apart (pg 148. ) Again, it has never been stated just how far her power can be taken, but it's not inconceivable that she could either a. ) Erase Manhatten from existance, although there's a good chance he might be able to come back from that. b:) Strip him of his powers and revert him back to Jon (or his corpse if you want to be pedantic) but again, he may be able to negate that or C. ) Create a being of equal or greater power to either kill/cancel him out or at least keep him occupied for the others to come up with another plan or escape. The Boy vs Ozymandias. Yes, Ozymandias is the "smartest man in the world. " Yes, he is at the pinnacle of human physical ability. Yes he is a world-class athlete with superior martial-art abilities. Yes, he was able to catch *A* bullet. But only just and it was a pistol fired at close range. Against an Ak-47 or a high powered sniper rifle, it's unlikely that he'd be as lucky. Despite being physically ten years old, he has literally decades of experience at his fingertips as a result of his rate of ageing being messed up because of his time-travelling abilities. The Boy is so accurate, he was able to kill anywhere between 50 and 100 agents of Temps Aeternalis (Vol 2, Page 32), making each shot count and with an AK-47 no less (Vol 2, page 49) a gun that isn't known for it's accuracy. While he can't risk going too far forward in time, he is capable of performing Microjumps foward in time, allowing him to move faster than the eye can percieve (Page 75) able to take out 3 snipers in 4.5 seconds, which he stated was not his best time. (page 86) The Boy is considered to be the best asset of Temps Aeternalis due to a combination of his natural abilities and his genetic modifications which included (and I quote) "the binding of my D. N. A to some of history's most NOTORIOUS ASSASSINS," then later says "Are you not getting this? I'll say it in plain English-- I am the perfect killer in every sense of the word-- because -- I-- AM-- EVERY-- KILLER. " (Page 78) Possesing a Levitator, he is able to fly with great speed and maneuverability (34-37) and has demonstrated what us possibly enhanced strength, shown in one panel to be punching his hand through a man's head (Vol 1. Chapter 6) Ozymandias is good, but is he THAT good? That leaves me with Seance and the White Violin. ..