"Women" couldn't recognize EQUALITY if it slapped them in the face

=== Equality === To recap, We agreed in R1 that equality is about opportunities as long as there are no "unfair barriers, " and that blame for one's choices should not be deflected onto others. === Responses to your rebuttals === You have agreed with most of my scenarios, Chalking many things into the choice category with me. However, You have introduced two other considerations that I'll review. --- Choice explains Career path but not Promotion path --- You immediately agreed that modern women are totally capable of choosing a career for themselves (2. 4). But on the topic of pursuing promotions (2. 3), You hedged on modern women's capacity to overcome "their environment. " The cultural script is not "gendered" on the topic of promotions. All people (male and female, Young and old, Black and white, Straight and gay) are encouraged to get as high and as rich as they can. You provided an article on the topic, But it doesn't really support your point. First, It notes that 91% of men and 94% of women weren't promoted. That seems very close to comparable. Second, The study does not account for variables in ambition (the choice component). Third, The final sentence says that men and women are paid comparably despite this promotion difference. --- "Cancerous" Culture --- Cancer is not an appropriate metaphor. Cancer spreads rapidly. The "carer" idea has not been growing at all. Cancer kills the body. At its zenith the carer idea did not damage society. Anthropologists like Margaret Mead claim that men have been free riders through most of history. So the culture you despise actually is a significant improvement over historical trends: it introduced the provider idea for men. So why use the "cancer" term? I think you really mean a superlative version of "bad. " But where do you get the right to judge my culture? That said, Using a severe term like "cancer" also allows you to condone radical measures akin to chemotherapy. To me, Feminism does seem similar to chemotherapy: harsh, Deadly, Inappropriate for non-life-threatening problems. === Conclusion === Your responses in R3 bely the problem with the oppressed-woman narrative. Equality is not your goal, Which is not a problem because equality has already been achieved. Your real purpose is to achieve feminist dominance in the culture. But even that is a farce because it has already occurred. We ALREADY live in a Feminist Culture. Look around. Women are equal to men in all the ways I've stated. In other ways women are more than equal to men. The disparities found in areas of female-domination are huge: like 20% for college degrees. The disparities in areas of male-domination are small: as in 5% for promotions and wages. In an unpredicted way the feminist culture we have now has hurt society in that it takes the pressure to contribute back off of men. Feminism has largely eliminated incentives for men to marry. That alone allows men to avoid real work. Even when men do marry and get jobs, They can take a back-seat to their wives. Counting careers, Housecare, And childcare, Women in feminist households do astronomically more work than their husbands. Husbands in "traditional" families contribute a much higher share of effort. "Girl Power"? Lastly, Why is it that women did not need to achieve military dominance to achieve their equality goals? Because when the women complained, This misogynist society readily made accommodations for them. This is not the behavior of oppressors. Take society off chemotherapy. It is not needed any more. . . And perhaps it never was.