Education should be a privilege, not a right

1 "I'm saying students that prove year after year that they want no part of being in school" Students like that expelled and given a second chance at a different school. Kicking them out permanetely is simply to harsh. "At 16, don't you think most people understand that, say, drinking has some negative effects?" First off, that has nothing to do with this. Second off, yes, but it is still illegal because it is permanelty harmful until you are age 21. 2. "Then for these parents who torture/neglect their children, aren't these children being taught that the abuse is okay?' Probably, does that mean we should jut give up on them, inject them with pottasium, and get rid of the problem? "Why should we continue the cycle?" Because abused children have done nothing wrong, and deserve a chance just like anyone else. "What do you believe the grades look like of children who suffer abuse?" their grades are bad. Because first off, the have many psycological problems, making it hard to study. Secondly, their parents do not buy them even basic school supplies, how can you do homework without paper or pencils? Third, abusive parents tend to fill up their children schedules with beatings and tedious tasks, giving them no time to do homework. "It's those who try to drag a class down that my idea tries to help." But, who is going to be the judge? It is going to destroy the students life to kick them out of school, who has the ability to make the decisions? How many students are going to be kicked out that don't deserve to be? Even destroying one life is just to much. "Luckily, I've never been in a position where abuse was ever something I had to worry about." So you wouldn't know what it is like. "However, there are some smart people in this world, somebody's bound to notice." The rate of child abuse is estimated to be 3 times greater than is reported. Sadly, many more cases go unnoticed then are reported. (http://www.childhelp.org...) "There are ways to anonymously tell SRS that you're being abused," When your a young child that has been told you will be killed if you tell someone and you don't have any clue that it will be anonymous and safe, your not going to tell anyone about the abuse. "And SRS will ensure that a child won't be submitted to more abuse because paperwork got filed." Actually quite often the cases can not be proved and children are sent back to their angry parents. "I would be doing whatever it took to get out of that situation." And it's true. You have not idea what it would be like. "Being forced into more abuse is the exact reason they wouldn't be kicked out of school." Unless if there is nothing they can do to improve their grades or appearences. And should a child die from lack of food or excessive beating, the blood is on their parents hands, and that's not something an abusive parent wants to go through. You would be surprised: "1,500 children die every year from child abuse and neglect. That is just over 4 fatalities every day." (http://www.childhelp.org...) "They'll continue to happen as long as this apathy is allowed to continue." They will continue as long as you force innocent children out of school and ignore the real problems. 3. "If a parent couldn't be there or was going to be abusive and neglectful of their child, it seems to me like they shouldn't have had a child." Well they did, and that innocent child still needs food, clothing, and a safe place to stay. "If we have to spend half an hour explaining to Johnny why it's wrong to hit people instead of learning our colors," By the end of the year you have to be taught to a certain degree, that is why we have tests. And the teacher would send the student to the principles office to be scolded, not only that but if you don't tell Johnny not to hit people, he will grow up to abuse his wife, commit murder, etc. "Parents need to assume some responsibility and actually take an interest in their child." And if they don't, their children still need to be fed somehow. You can't punish the child, for the parents neglect. That is double the abuse. "If the students feel like the school cares about them, why don't they take an interest in it? Why don't they latch onto it as their one true friend?" Because they have many psycological and personality problems from being abused and neglected their entire lives. Stop punishing the children for the parents mistakes! "It's not too hard to see when somebody is actually making an effort or not." Unless if the child is abused, has psycological issues, doesn't quite understand yet, or if you are wrong in your assumptions and ruin a young persons life, for no reason. 1) "16 is either a sophomore or a junior depending on birthday. I'd argue (and am arguing) that the realization happens sooner, and would happen even sooner if people realized that an education didn't have to wait on them." There are still students with the potential to understand that don't. And until their at an age where we are certain they are all in understanding we should allow them to drop out, let alone kick them out. 2) "And if they don't think they need an education, how are they going to get one by simply going to school?" Because, we might be able to get the student to understand and to change, and we might be able to save them from a life of no education, crime, etc. 'I'm not being selfish... how is promoting the value of an education being selfish?" Because you are saying your education is more important then other students that are coming from homes where education isn't important, where they are abused, or where many other problems make it hard for them to understand the importance of an education or where they are not able to practice their education easily. 4) If it's true that children are learning about the importance of a good education, why do we continue to have problems? Because we continue to have bad problems. But we can't just kick the students out of school and ignore the problem. It is just going to make the problem worse. "It doesn't widen the gap between rich and poor, it raises the standard of living across the whole nation" No, it forces kids out of school, forcing them to be poor, and more then likely forcing their children to be poor, and then their children... and the only people who can succeed are people who are already rich or in a good home. With less competition from the more 'poor' people, it allows those lucky children to get more and more rich and have better and better families, while the other children become more and more poor, with worse and worse familes. Widening the gap. This will never be a solution. I. "It's not game over. High school equivalency would still exist. All that happens is students are allowed to go deeper and further while in school than ever before" Some students are allowed to go deeper, and several are kicked out forever and, for their possibility in life, it is game over. "I wouldn't consider it luck, but having connections would help that process along" Being born into a good home, making connections, having parents with money, it is all luck. You easily could have been born into a poor home and not care about education, you easily could be one of these kids that you think should be 'kicked out' you don't know how hard it is, unless if your in the situation. "More difficult? Acquisition of education stays the same." Yes, it is more difficult, if you don't get that education is important quickly, you are kicked out and you don't get a second chance. That is much harder then it is now. "It doesn't seem like a solution to me." To several young students school is the only solution their only chance, and you, selfishly, want to take it away.