Rehabilitation is more effective than punishment.

Sorry I missed my last round. I got caught up in a book and lost track of time. Rebuttals:Upside of rehab. Rehab is an important kind of punishmentYou are arguing that rehab is a more effective than punishment, yet here you say that rehab is a form of punishment. Therefore, punishment is the only option for criminals even according to you. You argue that rehab decreases the chance of a repeat offense. The main problem with this argument is that you never specified what kind of offenses warrant rehab. Someone isn't going to go to rehab for stealing $30 worth of candy. They'll serve a bit of time in jail, and go back out to do as they please. In the case of rehab, you're going to be dealing with higher offenses. Maybe rape, murder, theft of thousands of dollars in goods, etc. Those crimes aren't nearly as common as petty offenses, so rehab isn't dealing with as wide a range. If someone steals $300 worth of candy from ten stores over 5 weeks, and gets caught only for stealing from that last store, they aren't going to rehab. They'll serve a few days in jail, if that, and go back out. There isn't too much of a deterrent there. I've already shown how prisoners could be put to work during their time in prison to not only eliminate their cost in jail, but turn a profit. Downside of PrisonYou never told us what offenses those 74% of prisoners committed. They could very well have committed crimes that didn't warrant time in rehab, and had the prisoner in jail for so little time that they didn't care. Now you show what crimes were committed. Most were crimes. The repeat offense rate of the homicides and rapists is negligible. It could be better, but not much. Asking for the number of repeat offenses in those ares to drop would be like asking a student whose getting 98% in all their classes to score higher. Those numbers aren't bad at all. They could be better, but not much. Saying that we have the highest incarceration rate doesn't warrant the assumption that prison isn't a deterrent. If we had an incarceration rate of 50% in 1990 (just random numbers and years) and Russia had an incarceration rate of 35%, and then 10 years later we had an incarceration rate of 35% and Russia had an incarceration rate of 10%, then prison is working. Everyone's numbers would have dropped, which still leaves us at the top. The increase of repeat offense of 30% means nothing in the lack of context provided. If that number is no repeat offenses of the candy shop robbery in one year, and 30% of people robbing the candy shop again the next year, then the repeated crime is not a crime that rehab is likely to deal with. You also failed to provide how many people 30% is. If this is out of 1,000,000 people, then 30% is a significant amount of repeat offenses. If this is out of three people, though, 30% is not that significant. There's an easy fix to children being abused in adult prisons. Send them to juvenile hall, that's what it's for. Also under the abuse topic, I'd like to revisit my making prisoners work idea. If they're working 8 ours a day all week, then that's going to leave less time for abusing other inmates. Since the inmates will most likely be doing undesirable physical labor jobs, it increases the likely hood that they'll be too tired to abuse other inmates at the end of the day as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------most of my case weren’t pointed out to be refutedI just wanted to say I was trying to steer clear of that since you didn't have my cases to argue against. As it turns out, I probably should have argued them to give you a chance to come back. To keep things fair, I won't respond to your refutations of my arguments since you can't respond to my refutations of your arguments. ConclusionI have shown that the cost of imprisonment can be offset by having the prisoners work. I have also shown that putting the prisoners to work can help reduce the amount of abuse. I have shown that repeat offense rates from prison compared to rehab is a mute point because there are many petty crimes that you won't go to rehab for, and that won't leave you in prison for a long enough time to offset the benefits of your crime. I've shown that the rates of repeat offense in the context you gave mean nothing. There is no number of repeat offenses to go off of, just a percent. That percent could be out of 3 people, or 3,000,000 people for all I know. It was fun debating with you jm, despite my missing a round. I definitely learned a lot in this debate. Good luck.