The Big Bang Theory

"Where did the spec come from? Actually it can be two things. 1) It didn't came from anything. Maybe there was nothing before, just that eternal spec. I know what you are thinking, but what created that spec? Well, nothing. It is not illogical to think it may be eternal and without a genesis. Like if it was a sort of "god". God also is eternal, according to its believers. 2) It came from a previous universe. What seems more probable nowadays is that universes expand, then get togheter again, and expend again, in a kind of cycle." That's ridiculous, for one, things don't just "always exist", next off, if this spec has all the gravity in the universe holding it together, then how does it get pulled apart? And where does this force go, allowing for this mass to pull back together? "I should clarify that forces aren't things but actions. Asking "where did all that force go?" is like asking "after I greeted you, where did the greeting go?". Obviously absurd." No, the laws of physics are not malleable, something pulled this spec apart, where did this power go? Where did it come from? "you got a spec of matter, containing all the gravity in the whole universe" This isn't scientifically right. In the singularity, non of the laws of physics applied, so gravity didn't existed. A deeper explanation: Gravity is an interaction between two body. In the singularity there was a single body (singularity!hahah), so no gravity. The gravity of this spec held itself together. "All the gravity in the universe isn't strong enough to hold off this force that doesn't exist causing it to expand?" Actually gravity is a rather weak force so this isn't illogical." All the gravity in the universe, equivalent to trillions upon trillions of black holes. " If it was still here, the earth would fly around in little bits, it doesn"t have the gravity of the whole universe, and that isn"t enough to hold a spec together that is under this force, how is the earth able to?" This is almost a joke. That force is the one which makes the universe expand. The gravity serves as a way of keeping bodies arranged in a certain way, but they still move cause the universe is expanding." You didn"t answer my question, If this force is powerful enough to hold off all the gravity in the universe, how is the earth not getting pulled into oblivion? Part 2 "This could mean a few things. 1) Coincidence. Not too much to explain, just luck." Coincidence? No, too farfetched, every one of them equal, no, not a chance. "2) A deterministic Universe. In the words of Hawking: "At this time, the Big Bang, all the matter in the universe, would have been on top of itself. The density would have been infinite. It would have been what is called, a singularity. At a singularity, all the laws of physics would have broken down. This means that the state of the universe, after the Big Bang, will not depend on anything that may have happened before, because the deterministic laws that govern the universe will break down in the Big Bang. The universe will evolve from the Big Bang, completely independently of what it was like before. Even the amount of matter in the universe, can be different to what it was before the Big Bang, as the Law of Conservation of Matter, will break down at the Big Bang. " OK, this doesn"t prove anything, Steven Hawking is NOT credible, his theories violate every law of common sense, and I found a quote that explains this situation perfectly: "Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."- Nikola Tesla (Smartest man ever to exist) "3) Multiverses exists. Some scientists, like Michio Kaku, propose that the universe divides in each choice. For instance, when you flip a coin the universe divides in two: in one universe you get tails, in the other heads. This would mean that there are plenty of universes, this is the one where electrons are equal and so on, but in other universes things are way different." "The creation of atoms is scientifically explained. They formed like that because of the laws of physics. They formed like that because it was the only way. Is like saying "the key entered the lock horizontally, that's amazing! Why didn't it enter vertically". It isn't amazing, it entered horizontally because that was the only way of putting the key in the lock." A key was designed to enter horizontally, atoms could have attached in any other way, but they go by one distinct design. "What pulls atoms togheter is electromagnetic force. Atoms don't get pulled all togheter because of attraction and repulsion forces. Some get togheter because of they attract each other, and some don't because they repulse each other" Why is it that the proton and the neutron attract to make a nucleus? By logic, if it just "happened", the proton and the electron would form the nucleus, but instead, it"s the proton and the neutron. All you have done in this debate was cite un-credible "scientists", insult my intelligence, and try to "prove" your point with things that go against every law of physics. And all you have proven is that you are an incompetent debater, both on edeb8.com, and debate.org.