The two party system has run its course and is dividing America.

First I would like readers to note that solarman didn't "call me any names" and the one time he did completely blow off something i wrote, he was right for doing, (the orgin of the Democratic and republican party). First I would like to clarify something: "John Edwards talks about two Americas, but these are the REAL two Americas." once again my inabilty to articulate myselfs has lead to confussion. What i was trying to say, was that John Edwards talks about the rich and poor America, but that exists in every country (rich and poor), I was saying that Democrats and Republicans are the two Americas. Next on of your qoutes: In short, the liberals for the most part must be defeated at every step. They are wrong on every single issue for the most part, and exist only to accrue power for themselves- they do NOT have the interests of this country at heart This is too simplisic if not wrong, Politics is essentially the most difficult game in the world. Every decison you make in an effort to "win" the game will be scrutinzed by the surrounding world. conservatives play the game stunningly well but often lack an understanding of the reprcussions that can result from appeasing the politically uneducated. Liberals are not interested in winning, some legitamatelly have a deep sympathy or empathy for humankind or nature, and will work ferverously to produce equality and preservation respectivelly as that is what they truely beleive in. Others will preach the same, but lack the understanding or even not care, for their primary interest is the image bestowed upon a liberal as a caring individual. The first class of liberals, which are the minority, serve a vital purpose in undoing the moral harm cuased by the conservative in their efforts to better the country. the second group of liberals, the one i assume you despise, serve no purpose but to frustrate the conservative with their baseless porclimations. Regardless though, each kind of person has their best interests at heart, The conservative envys the reputation of being a conservative (think about it and you will understand what I mean), The legitamate liberal longs for a title of humanatarian. the baseless liberal simply wants to be heard, to be a somebody. Next qoute: "the fed govt should NOT have a role in the economy or health care" I am not calling you at, rather I am interested in your reasoning behind this statement such as why you believe this. now for the three examples you present: (1) Abortion: between your argument and my response here, I have had a change of heart on abortion. I was talking with my father (a conservative syrian immigrant), he is a doctor and i brought up abortion with him one afternoon. I for one never understood the exponential number of abortions that take place in hospitals, once I learned the alarming rate at which fetuses are being aborted, I have had a change of heart and now agree with you on this point. (2) Stem Cell Research: I completely agree that it should remain within the private sector. I do beleive that Adult Stem Cell research needs to be the base of stem cell research. Yet I do think, a little more embryonic stem cell research should be done as to gain a better understanding of the difference between the two. It is evil, I agree. But consider the fact that a large portion of medical technology and understanding we have today was largely influenced by the the gruesome medical and scientific expirments done on gas chamber prisoners by the Nazis. It was horrible but nonetheless crucial to the adavancments of medicine in the post Hitler world. (3) Gay Marriage: You say oxymoron, I say trivial. before you rampage against me on this subject, allow me to explain what influences me on my stance. I was a long time homophobe, and then one of my best friends came out to me and another mutual close friend. we were the first people he ever told. The hell he went through becuase he was so ashamed and upset that he was gay changed my life forever. after two years he started coming to terms with it, in large part to me and my friend's support. shortly there after he died in a plane crash with his family, they never knew he was gay. that was two and a half years ago, and ever since that day I have been on a personal endeavor to open any and all doors to acceptance of gays as equals. You talk about evil. how evil is it to make people live in fear, shame and hiding, because the of the hetrosexual worlds reluctance and fear of welcoming the unknown. it not about Civil unions being good enough, which in a world with perfect people it would be. but until we allow marriage, they will still be a seperate society look at differently by hetros, and that is where the problem lies. If I may, I will use you as an example of what is wrong with the two party system. Once I took the time to sife through the emotionally sparked arguments you have written in previous debates, I have found that 90% percent of the time you are right in your convictions. With the exception of Islam (Which in my opinion is not your fault, as it appears your relentless patriotism has subconciously bedrocked a blind bias) Your arguments are entirely correct and show a rather high level of phycoligical and political understanding. Yet you have still lost almost all of your debates. This is because of your disgust of liberals, that you won't even bother to explain to them, in their language, why they are wrong. It bothers me because the positive impact you could have on this sight in broadening points of views is tremendous. regardless of whether you are aware of it or not, you yourself are the embodiment of what is wrong with the two party system. the hatred has become so strong, that though you can open doors through your wealth of knowledge and studied research, you opt to slam it in their face and instead of educating, you widen the divide. I am not saying this to ridacule you, on the contrary, you simply fall into the norm on this issue. it's the way everyone acts. I encourage an anaylsis as the one I did on you above argueing why my stance embodies a faliure in the United States political landscape. Best of luck to you in your argument, I have enjoyed this debate. as i always say, I am here to learn, not to win :)