The planet would be a better place without religion

Thank you, and I would tip my hat in return. My opponent is correct that my comparative argument was irrelevant and he rightly declared it a moot point. I fully cede that point. I would argue that he was simply too dismissive of the two religions that I used as examples. He appeared to dismiss them due to their number of followers, or lack there of. I take two issues with this rational. 1. In a global sense, 6 million people might not be many; however, to a region 6 million could very well be most. This then begs the question: does his initial question only apply to the world as it is, or the world that a religion can or does affect? I assume it to be, for admittedly self-serving reasons in part, the area of the world that a government or religion can or does influence. Of course, the argument could be framed as all region vs. all else. In which case, 6 million people are not enough to outweigh the atrocities of the larger religions. Therefore, I will also cede that point. 2. My opponent has succeeded in disarming me in the prior round. As such, I am left with only one counter argument: Who defines what is moral and what is not? It would be my contention that the morality he knows is owed in part by historical religious morality as defined by the social structure that formed his country. He could then argue that this moral influence was not needed because we, as a people, would have figured out this morality without religion. While he would be right, to a degree, no one really can have that answer. So we are left with comparing secular governments and people to religious institutions and people on the whole of their moral infractions. This is where I make my case. Who gets to decide if killing a person is immoral? Who decides that theft is immoral? Who decides if persecution of homosexuals is immoral? If you are an atheist or agnostic, you would conclude that morality is not given by a moral law giver, rather it was evolved over time out of the need to be mutually beneficial as a group. If one group decided that killing their own was moral and one group decided that it was immoral, one group might survive and another might not. This then leads me to morality as an objective set of rules for everyone. No person or Country of people has the claim to the objective moral standard. No Country can tell another Country that their morality is wrong. In Canada same-sex marriage was legal long before it was in the US. Canada had no right to tell the US that they were immoral in denying it. No matter the reason for the denial, it did not fit within the US moral code for a very long time. The same can be said for the US objecting to how other Countries restrict the freedoms of women. While that has been ousted from our own morals, it was not always immoral to us. So how can we then claim that we are the moral law givers for the rest of the world? Certainly we see some truths to be self evident: that people have certain unalienable rights. But are we the ones that decided this for everyone and are now trying to impose our morals onto others? An non-modernized group of people who rely on the procreation of their members might take moral issue with homosexuality and persecute a homosexual within their group. Are we then allowed to tell them that they are immoral? In the UK, the age of consent is 16. This means that a 30 year old could legally have sexual contact with a 16 year old. We, in the US, would find that to be immoral. Who gets to decide? In conclusion, morality does not extend beyond your agreed upon group. No one has the right to judge another group's morality because is does not mirror their own. Therefore nothing is immoral outside of your group. Because your morality does not extend beyond your group, you can not claim that any atrocities have been committed by secular or religious groups that operate out of your group. Until such a time as we have a one-world government, there can be no moral consensus nor moral indignation for others outside your moral purview.