Black Lives Matter Movement/Protests

The pro opens his statement with a detailed and statistical analysis of poverty and the linking of crime. While I agree that poverty is linked with crime on some level but this is not the topic of the debate. The topic is the BLM movement and their claims to be fighting against oppression of blacks today by police officers. Mainly white. If you look on their website . http://blacklivesmatter.com... their claims are much more different than what is seen in the media and what the protests have been about. The reason I am against the BLM movement is because they are not abiding by their said beliefs. The current movement of today from BLM has edged itself forward to the claims of white cop oppression against blacks. Pro: "Now my opponent says crime and poverty have no correlation. He says that there are actually more poor white people. But his own source says "that blacks and Latinos are disproportionately poor, 27 percent of African-Americans and 25 percent of Latinos are poor, compared to just 9 percent of whites". (. http://www.theroot.com......). " Whites make up roughly 77.5% of the entire population of the United States. While 9% is a smaller number in percentage it is much larger on an actually scaled analysis. "18.9 million whites are poor. That"s 8 million more poor white people than poor black people, and more than 5 million more than those who identify as Latino. A majority of those benefiting from programs like food stamps and Medicaid are white, too. " . http://www.theroot.com... If in fact poverty was the biggest determining factor of inner city concentrations of crime, then we would see much more crime among poor whites than we do with poor blacks. Seeing as how blacks make up 14% of the united states population and equate nearly 50% of all homicides the statistics of poverty and an underlying minority population making up such a large number of crime do not correlate correctly. As stated before, if this were the case white crime would be much higher seeing as how the extra 8 million would make up 1/5 of the entire black population itself. The pro then proceeds to claim that oppression keeping blacks from success hold blacks down and chained into the inner cities where it becomes a concentrated collection of crime. This is a perfect statement that agrees with black on black crime. As stated before blacks are killed by other blacks at 90%. This is an overwhelmingly large number. The claim that the most important subject of black oppression is the murdering of blacks by whites is simply untrue and immoral to the families who have lost lives due to black homicide. For example: (Not a real life scenario) If 90% of children in Africa are being killed by militia warlords and the other 10% are being killed by criminals it makes absolutely no sense to disregard the main factor of African children deaths which are militia warlords. This is the same for current day events. I am not saying to disregard white cop oppression. I am saying that there is NO push for black on black reform from the BLM movement at all when in their own name states "Black Lives Matter". If they truly do matter then why is their main priority on the small percentage of hate crimes induced upon blacks. When you repair a house, you do not start detailing right away. You fix the broken roof. You fix the missing door, and everything that is vital to the protection of it's inhabitants. This same rule applies to the economy, our U. S. debt is running at 19.3 trillion. . http://www.usdebtclock.org... It is of the utmost importance to any politician who understands basic economic principles to balance the budget and reduce that debt or this nation's currency will fail. Continueing on to the topic. " we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites" . http://www.amren.com... "Some observers argue that what causes the overwhelming preponderance of black-on-white over white-on-black violence is "chance of encounter," due to the fact that there are five times as many whites as blacks in the American population. However, there are only about 30 percent more Hispanics than blacks, yet black-on-Hispanic violence is almost as lopsided as black-on-white violence. This suggests blacks may be deliberately targeting both whites and Hispanics. " (Source from above) If we are going to the make a statement like that, one must also make a counter one. Clearly, there is an overwhelmingly high percentage of Black on white crime in America yet this goes unnoticed by the media and BLM. White's biggest threat for crime in the U. S. are blacks, yet we do not hear about the racism coming from blacks or that there is a bias in crime related events involving Black-on-White. The pro continues to make statements regarding racism against blacks and it's correlation to poverty. Seeing as how this is not a part of the debate topic I will be brief. While the Pro does claim that the reason for the high percentage of crime among blacks is due to the relationship of poverty and concentration in inner cities, it still does not denote the fact that the highest contender of homicides against its own race is by African-American's themselves. Pro: "My opponent repeatedly points to the high rate of crime in black communities like somehow it justifies police acting as judge jury and executioner on the street. But my opponent never addresses the issue of uneven policing. (. http://www.nyclu.org......). " I have not once stated that police involved in a hate crime are justified to be "Judge, Jury, and Executioner". Using such a phrase is not logical as there are split second decisions that go through a police officer's head in a life threatening situation. When a suspect refuses to show his/her hands there is potential that they have a weapon. When a suspect resists arrest, there is potential for the arrestee to have a weapon. There are many possibilities that officers face every day and claiming that each time a cop kills someone it is because they are taking matters into their own hands is not only false but highly disrespectful to those who put their lives on the line for the safety of American citizens. If there is a case of a police officer breaking the law, I believe no matter what race you are, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if then some. Pro: "In New York City 55% of the people stopped for stop and frisk were black even though the city is only 25% black. White only made up 10% of stops despite making up 45% of the population. " I'm afraid that this statistic does not provide a convincing enough argument to prove the case of racial profiling. While I do agree that racial profiling is indeed a problem but there are a number of factors that may be involved. For one, the classification of race for NY's PD is virtually close to 50-50. (Whites vs. Non whites. ) . http://nypost.com... So this must mean that on the matters of racial profiling, blacks, hispanics, and othe races involved in policing must then also be taken into account of racial provisions. Yet BLM does not ever state this. To claim that the majority of black stops by 54% of whites were involved in a racial profiling case is not proven by any source or the one that the Pro has listed. I'm sure you must have seen this already but there is in fact a Harvard study proving that there is "No racial bias in police shootings" . http://www.washingtontimes.com... consisting of 63 pages of statistical analysis on the use of force from police officers. Finding that Whites are more likely to be shot than blacks even though they encounter blacks much more often and are found to have had force used upon them more frequently than blacks in the cases of resisting arrest, use of baton, pepperspray, taser, etc. . https://www.washingtonpost.com... This source while also in agreement to my statement, also shows that the use of force is more prevalent among blacks. It does NOT however, claim that the majority of cops who do use force are white, and it also does not show a racist bias. Pro: "We can not allow our public servants to be so careless with civilian lives. " These men and women who serve ARE civilians. They simply put on a uniform. They have families and children whome they love dearly. That being said, they understand more than anyone that a life taken is also a life taken from someone elses family. Pro: "Your irrelevant anecdotes about affirmative action have nothing to do with this debate" I would like to remind the pro that while it does not deal with the debate, it was to refute a point that was stated. I would also like to remind the Pro that he himself has not stayed entirely on topic and that I have still accepted his argument and refuted it. Pro: "My opponent denies that police officers falsify reports and suppress evidence after a police shooting. " I did not deny the corruption of cops completely, but only the misconception of this "Blue wall of silence" my opponent claimed was so prevalent. Pro: "The point of this debate is that as my opponent admits "Of course there is oppression against blacks and of course there are violent hate crimes that cops commit. " My point being is that there are far bigger issues threatening black lives. Wish I could say more. But sadly I am out of typing room. An excellent debate nonetheless.