We are all InSaNe

I thank blue for an interesting response. Here is my argument from the previous round. This was posted in the comment section: "Thinking about the future is what sets us apart from many lower order animals. It allows us to build shelter BEFORE winter sets in. Thinking about the future is a key survival trait." While I agree with this, there is no denying that we spend an innumerable amount of time pondering about the far future. A future that is not certain to occur. Anticipating the future and preparing for it in the present is one thing, focusing on the future and ignoring the present is another. We have all had those days where we sat down and looked in the future wondering what our future lives might be like. This is insanity as we ignore a time that we know certainly exists and focusing on one that is very uncertain. My opponent describes anti social behaviors as pondering on the consequences of ones actions. This supports my argument in many ways as pondering on the consequences of your actions is still thinking about the future and the past. By focusing on your actions, you have more time to analyze the actions rather than isolate yourself in a world that is both uncertain and non existent. The competition I described earlier is a whole different thing than what my opponent explains. Competing for resources is rational, however, humanity has evolved competition in such a way that it has become insane. We compete over who can eat the most, hold our breath the longest, have the best things and so fourth. We compete with each other to the extent that we are causing harm to ourselves. Heck we even compete for the sake of being the best without having any need for the prize of winning that competing or any care for the competition at all. Adjective VS adverb: My opponent argument is true to some extent. Some extent meaning that we did not just do something insane, we continuously do insane things. When you get drunk, your not an alcoholic...your just drunk. When you continuously over drink, then you become an alcoholic. The same thing with insanity." REBUTTAL When I said that that sanity is free of societal hindrance, i also mentioned that it was also free of emotional hindrance. This means that sane people are not pressured to adopt what is said to be "cool" and a sane person is in control of his/her emotion. This means that he/she does not allow emotional flaws to hinder his/her goal. The emotion is not suppressed, it is simply controlled. With my opponent's challenge, the scenario stated in both my first round and his round under "lying to ourselves" exemplifies the fact that we recognize the truth, yet we choose to lye to ourselves. We are all familiar with the sane path, yet we choose to follow the insane road. "If we can use our rationality in any given situation, then we are *not* insane because our frontal cortex can override the baser and more illogical urges of our lizard brains." This argument is flawed in many ways. We know what perfection is, yet no one is able to achieve perfection simply because perfection is unattainable. in the same way, sanity is unattainable(to humans) and as such no matter how much we recognize what is sane and what is not, we can never achieve sanity. Rationality guides us through life picking away a lot of insane actions, yet it is still unable to completely eliminate insanity. Just like we recognize that it is bad to blame others for our mistakes, yet we still blame others for virtually all of our mistakes. If we allow this strange definition of insane, then the word loses all meaning, and we would have no way to describe people whose frontal cortexes aren't working properly. Ones again this argument is flawed. I stated earlier we are all insane but to different levels. I could have a mind that lies to me every time that I am not pleased, and the guy next door could have a mind urging him to kill. There is a huge difference in our level of insanity. With this said it is very easy to differentiate between people who simply face mild insanity and those who are mentally damaged. Thus, weirdman fails to show how we can all be insane, given that the word loses *all* meaning if it merely describes "having a subconscious mind." How does it loss the word all if we are all plagued with the same issues(insanity)? " When we tell ourselves that our failings were exogenous, we tend to work harder because it seems like we control our own fate. If we think: "that test was hard," "the teacher didn't teach us this," or "I blew off studying, so ... whatever," then it seems like the outcome is in our control." This supports my argument in every way as it shows that telling the truth and recognizing the problem as to why we fail is often the better option yet this seems to be a problem for us as a race and individual. blue also described an opposite scenario. This opposite scenario exemplifies my point. this individual is INSANE!!! while wallowing in his/her emotion, he/she misses all opportunity to get better. Stupidity is not genetic but a combination of individual work ethic with the environment. If this individual were to recognize that the problem is because he failed to study, and he loves to pass; then next time he will study. He has now associated passing with studying. Caveman "It proves my point: there's an evolutionary reason for our subconscious mind to help us calibrate our self-worth and social standing."-------------->If beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder, then coming to a conclusion over one reaction is InSaNe. If this caveman was to decide to lower his standard, then he will end up with someone he does not like. However, if he were to recognize that beauty is only a small factor in relationships, then he will try to find his strengths and exploit them. True he needed to be rejected to achieve this stage in his life, however the reactions in both of our scenarios are completely opposite. Our subconscious exist to help us determine our self-worth and and exploit this self worth to the fullest length. My opponent failed to acknowledge my "foul approach" argument. "Wierdman talks a lot in this round about how we are sometimes fully rational and sometimes irrational." I never made such argument. I meant that we act stupid sometimes during those moments our mind identifies the level of stupidity in our actions. This does not change the fact that we were insane when we performed that action. We were not in sync with our mind and as such behaved irrationality. this is a moment of rationality. My opponent listed some major mental disabilities...once again we must look to the difference in insanity level. If most emotional changes are precipitated by outside events, then it's not irrational to be sad when something sad happens to you. I agree with this,; my argument is that we all tend to loose control of our emotions and exaggerate these enmotions to the point where they are no longer under our control. "Our imagination and ability to plan for the future are key evolutionary traits. They hardly render us insane. If you have a flight tomorrow, Once again planning is okay its actually required. When you ponder in the future, you spend an enumerate amount of time developing and creating an imaginary world in our mind. We have all sat down and thought about how we will turn out in the future to the point of spending an incredible amount of time thinking about the future while loosing the time needed to develop this future....the present.