Original sin

RRC1) As I have already shown, there was no death before the fall as per the verse in Romans that I gave. They weren't immortal because they were eating from that tree, they were immortal because they were created perfect. Once they disobeyed God, that's when they became mortal and were going to die at some point in their lives. You have not shown any Biblical evidence supporting your assertions.The passage from Deuteronomy has nothing to do with Adam and Eve. However, even if it did, if you read the passage in context you will see that if they choose life, they were to serve and honor the Lord their God. This is why Adam and Eve would have lived forever, because they would have been obedient to God (i.e. they wouldn't have sinned).RRC2) Actually, John 3:13 does not contradict Elijah and Enoch ascending up into Heaven. Consider the passage in context: "Truly, truly, I say to you, We speak what we know and testify what we have seen. And you do not receive our witness. If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how shall you believe if I tell you heavenly things? And no one has ascended up to Heaven except He who came down from Heaven, the Son of Man who is in Heaven" (John 3:11-13). Jesus was not saying that no one has ever ascended into Heaven, but He was speaking to a teacher among the Pharisees. He was telling Nicodemus that the perfect knowledge of God is not obtained by any man's going up from earth to heaven to receive it -- no man has ever ascended for any such purpose. Only Christ can teach us heavenly things, for no other being has ever ascended into Heaven, that is: in order to receive and to bring back deep, spiritual teachings. Christ alone was appointed to do this.The New Testament is not in error, only those who take the Scriptures out of context will find themselves in error."*Facepalm* Let me give you the verse I am referring to."There's no reason to get testy. If you weren't being clear, that's on you. You didn't give a Scripture reference, so I was forced to consider a verse which it sounded like you were trying to use.It is true that God forgives a sinner who repents. In fact, even though animal sacrifices were offered it was faith that justified true believers (Hebrews 11). However, animal sacrifices were still required as an atonement for sin.God required animal sacrifices to provide a temporary covering of sins and to foreshadow the perfect and complete sacrifice of Jesus Christ (Leviticus 4:35, 5:10). Animal sacrifice is an important theme found throughout Scripture because “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness” (Hebrews 9:22). When Adam and Eve sinned, animals were killed by God to provide clothing for them (Genesis 3:21). Cain and Abel brought sacrifices to the Lord. Cain's was unacceptable because he brought fruit, while Abel's was acceptable because it was the “firstborn of his flock” (Genesis 4:4-5). After the flood receded, Noah sacrificed animals to God (Genesis 8:20-21). (For more on this, visit this website: http://www.gotquestions.org...;)Again, this verse is not saying that blood sacrifices are not required at all. In fact, as in Hosea 6:6, what God desires more than that is faithfulness. Without faithfulness, all the blood sacrifices and burnt offerings are meaningless. As we can see, the Psalmist here was giving God the faithfulness He desires from all of us.ConclusionIf the Instigator believes that blood sacrifices and offerings were not required under the Old Covenant, then it is surely him who does not have a full knowledge of the Old Testament laws. The Instigator has not given very strong Scriptural support for his first contention, and his second one denotes a lack of understanding of Jewish law.