The Cosmological Claim. There is a supernatural creator, not constrained within time, that created a

It can be said that any particular point in time is essentially a state of only one singular event existing. As such, time is not passing in the parameters of that single moment. The moment just "is". Therefore, my point I make in my hypothetical case is that "The Beginning" was essentially just a moment-in-time. Either A) There must have been an infinite amount of events prior to The Beginning, or else The Beginning is the first moment in time (which would mean time had a beginning starting point here). In regards to Einstein's theory, I only brought up the possibility of traveling back in time "in-case" it existed, so that you could see that regardless if it existed or not, would not effect a linear time line that still could not go out to infinity on either end. Since you have stated that time can only go forward, although at different rates, this simplifies my argument even further. Now I only need to prove time cannot go backward forever, which my Assumption 1 (in round 1) still proves. Regarding your last paragraph, I think you understand this and come to the conclusion that Assumption 1 can now be verified as true, that indeed time has a starting point, of which I have labeled The Beginning. You are right, however, that this does not prove a supernatural creator, by itself. That is why I had posted 4 more critical assumptions. So now that Assumption 1 is verified, I can begin to address Assumption 2, which restated is: Since all natural things had a starting point in time, There exists a creator that brought all natural things into existence. (If you still do not accept Assumption 1 at this point, do not feel the need to argue against the rest of this post, as we have to come to a conclusion regarding Assumption 1 first before proceeding). ...continuing... Regarding your rebuttal to Assumption 2, the argument I think I am reading is that you think the term "creation" can only be used as long as it is an "intentional" creation by intelligent design, but not if it is an "accidental" effect. If you do not want to use the word "creation", we can use the word cause and effect. My assumption would then be restated as: Since all natural things had a starting point in time, there exists a PRIOR CAUSE (that obviously must be supernatural since it existed outside the timeline constraining our natural world [making me agree with you that my Assumption 4 is a waste of words haha]) that RESULTED IN THE EFFECT that all natural things began to exist. Therefore, chance or intention has nothing to do with it, but it must be agreed that something had to cause the existence of the universe, since we have agreed that there was a starting point. The only other possible scenario would be to conclude that the first moment in time (which I specified as The Beginning), was actually the first moment of time, and that nothing existed prior to that. In that case, "nothing" would have to be the cause of "something" which is impossible. Or, if you don't like the word "cause", another way to look at it is that there was "nothing" prior to "something". But the word "prior" would require a moment in time "before" that moment... and without events occurring (mass moving), time does not exist.