Infidel tournament: Resolved, welfare should be abolished

R4: Un-freedoms So the thing that matters here is: the right to wealth.Now, welfare=his money is now yours. You say people deserve this (implied, see resolution) with that argument. I have defeated that =, and there is no right to wealth anyway. We are supposed ot be a free market system, his money is not yours, your money is yours and his his. [1] R2: Poverty So you want more accurate data, although mine was adequate. But here I go:The poverty is similar now then is was when the war on poverty began in 1964. [2] When welfare reform forced people out of welfare, poverty had a slight decrease. [2] (this means less welfare = less poverty). Under one poverty measure in New York Poverty rose 22%/ [3] [4] Also, welfare may impede progress towards diminishing poverty. [5] Once welfare was reformed and less people where on welfare employment increased. [6] Less welfare=less poverty. So less welfare, not more welfare, lowers poverty. R3: Crime Note I have proven single mothers increase due to welfare. Let's say is again, welfare increases single mothers. [7] Kids raised in single parent homes are more likely to commit crimes. [7] [8] [9] Also children born in single parent homes are more likely to be thrown into poverty. [10] (relates here and to poverty argument above). Now, in my opinion is it sad that many African Americans are living in poverty, they are the largest chunk, 40%. [11] Now, 30% of LA African Americans are in jail. This shows a small link to poverty and increased crime. [11] One of the big reasons people commit crimes is because of poverty. [12] So as I have proven welfare increases poverty, so logically it increases crime. Also welfare leads to increases in non married births. [7] [13] "According to the study, in the years from 1965 to 2002, higher rates of out-of-wedlock births in a given year correlate with higher crime rates " [14] So if welfare increases this then logically welfare increases crime. Welfare users are more likely to abuse drugs then other people. [15] So abolishing welfare would reduce drug induced crimes (like a LSD addict shoots you due to a bad trip), so more welfare still logically increases crime, less or none would decrease it. Defense of my argument. RC1: cost You just claim my analysis wrong, yet have no evidence to back it up. We are debating ALL WELFARE, so federal welfare costs about 434 billion. [16] Welfare is 13% of the budget. [17] Also later you get mad about me specifying. This debate does not specify so all welfare, state or federal is allowed. And arguments only for one are then ok. RC2: Constitutionality You provide no real arguments. Just a repeat, well similar wording as last time. I will proceed: "Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated." - Thomas Jefferson, 1798 also in [18] Now, modern welfare is not mentioned, hence it is unconstitutional. "[I must question] the constitutionality and propriety of the Federal Government assuming to enter into a novel and vast field of legislation, namely, that of providing for the care and support of all those … who by any form of calamity become fit objects of public philanthropy ... I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for making the Federal Government the great almoner of public charity throughout the United States. To do so would, in my judgment, be contrary to the letter and spirit of the Constitution and subversive of the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded." - President Franklin Pierce, 1854 also in [18] Federal welfare=unconstitutional. RC3: Immorality. Well my sources, my multiple sources from just as credible ones as yours, said 47-46%. But I suspect you want more: "The number originates in the estimate that roughly 47% of Americans don't pay federal income tax, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. " [19]. This says the tax policy center, not Donald trump as you think. So a non partisan group not a guy with funky hair made this. "About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009" [20] I conclude this argument. You can't extend the argument on poverty as my previous arguments show welfare has negative effects on poverty, or has little difference. RC4: Alternatives You can't extend an argument I refuted without spelling it out. I refuted that argument, 2 birds with 1 stone. Also private charities have been much more successful in helping the poor then welfare. [21] Also many charities are making ways to end poverty through funding them but forcing them to look for a job, this had been successful. [22] My point: charities work, this refutes all of that. RC4: Corruption My other arguments showed 24% of welfare applications are corrupt in some way. 14 million people are on welfare. [23] This is, 3,360,000 people abusing the system. But let's use your estimate of 40 billion. Well Medicare loses 48 billion. [24] more people are on welfare so this cost should be higher, this indicates welfare is more corrupt. RC5: Dependency I forgot the formula, re-do it. Also I used the conservative estimate. This says 1/6 americans are dependent on welfare. (25) So the numbers change. So technically we choose 1 and go. So your results may me more in reality. Out of room vote pro sources : http://www.onlywematter.com... [1] http://www.cato.org... [2] http://www.heritage.org... [3] Sam Roberts, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½‚ï¿½ï¿½"Calculating Poverty in New York: More by City Standard, and Less by Federal One,ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½‚ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ The New York Times, March 3, 2010. [4]http://www.thefreemanonline.org... [5] http://www.oycf.org... [6] http://www.cato.org... [7]http://www.singleparentspot.com... [8] http://foreverfamilies.byu.edu... [9] http://www.heritage.org... [10] http://www.pubdef.ocgov.com... [11] http://whydopeople.net... [12] http://www.frc.org... [13] http://www.physorg.com... [14] http://www.npc.umich.edu... (15) http://www.heritage.org... [16] http://www.usgovernmentspending.com... [17] http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com... [18] http://money.cnn.com... [19] http://www.thegatewaypundit.com... [20] http://www.lp.org... [21] http://www.thefreemanonline.org... [22] http://www.usatoday.com... [23] http://www.politico.com... [24] http://www.freedomworks.org... (25)