Ninjas are Better than Pirates

"This debate is for fun, obviously, but I warn you I will argue it seriously." As will I, and i will assume we are talking about ancient ninjas and colonial pirates (and privateers) of 1300-~1900s. "Ninjas are more skilled than pirates -They undergo intensive training to master ninjitsu in order to be successful assassins. Ninjitsu is an umbrella term to describe espionage skills, which range from spying and disguise, to poison, explosives, and other stealthy ways to kill. Ninjas followed the same basic lesson plans as samurai, albeit taking a different route. Whole schools are devoted to the teaching of this art, as it is no easy task." 1. Disagree, First what skill may be to a ninja may not be useful to a pirate on a ship, and vice versa. Espionage skills are completely useless in the pirate setting on the high seas. The skill of a pirate is really indeterminable until you face one. That pirate could of been a former military officer and a trained fencer. What seems what you are doing is pitting a Master Ninja versus some slob out of a bar, which seems unfair. "Ninjas are more moral than pirates -Although some were assassins for hire, a good number of ninjas were loyal to particular nobleman or clan, or a political cause, and familial groups of ninjas usually protected the village where they lived from from robbers or others. Pirates on the other hand, were rarely loyal to anyone themselves and killed indiscriminately except when fear for impracticality made it illogical." 2. Using the same method as you there was a number of bar brawling,brain damaged pirates (due to heavy alcohol use probably) but there was professional pirates. These also called privateers, they worked for not a mere clan or nobleman but they worked for empires of England, France, Spain and others through letters of Marque. Sir Francis Drake for Elizabeth I. Yet, I dont understand how being moral makes ninjas better than pirates. "A ninja could kill a pirate before a pirate could kill a ninja. -Pirates were rarely trained at combat (at least formally) and used to direct confrontation, where as ninjas are used to sneaking, and would be able to take a pirate when he least expected it. They are assassins; they're trained to kill." 3. Major disagreement here, Ninjas may beable to sneak around but sneaking aboard a ship is extremely hard. I find it difficult to believe an asian man/female fitting in with a group of pirates so disguise is somewhat out of the question. So how about the night strike at port? Well this is probably the only chance the ninja has got a chance and a little one at that because the pirate I would use someone like Robert Morris (millionaire American privateer/pirate) his crew would be well paid (and loyal) and well armed and skilled. Throwing ninja stars is great but they are quite hard to kill with and very inaccurate; daggers may be the only hope for ranged other than arrows. For throwing daggers or stars a blunderbuss and pistols would easily match them. For bows we have rifles as the equal and little skill needed to operate. Remember also Pirates are trained to kill to and receive lots of hands on training. As for hand to hand/ sword combat many pirates were skilled fencers/swordsman, they would be matches for even the best samurai which were considered much better in sword combat than ninjas. I don't consider ninjas better than pirates but i also don't consider pirates better than ninjas they have their pros and cons for certain situations.