The American judicial system is a horrible, greedy corporation.

I have to be quick, so I will pretty much sum things up. I have already made alot of my points and you don't seem to recognize them. I think it is because many Americans live in different worlds. Thank you for your explanation of what pro and con means, but it makes more sense to say that I am against the greedy corporation that is the American legal system than it does to say that I am for my own argument... Madelyn O'Hara was the reason prayer was banned from schools, and was an example of how the supreme court has drastically affected our schools, and in an unfair fashion. This has nothing to do with our constitution except for it being an example that they can interpret the constitution however they want. "It's also easy to ignore problems you are ignorant of" Yes, that was my point. As in, the problems not affecting your life therefore they don't exist to you. That is an example of ignorance. "Religion is not a matter the government is supposed to have an opinion on - we have a secular government. Having mandatory prayer in government-run public schools violates this principle at the core. Religion is a matter left to the parents and the individual, not the government" This is a wonderful example of where you have been lied to. The government isn't supposed to establish a national religion, and that is it. Other than that, the constitution says nothing of religion in public. I can't pray in school, or even have a moment of silence now because it offends some arrogant person, but why is it that an atheist can write and orally dictate as many papers as they want on their opinions of religion. If I were to write a paper on my faith and devotion to Christ, I would not be allowed to read it unless I edited it to not offend an atheist. (It isn't Muslims or Hebrews that complain about Christ in public, it's always atheists.) This not only has nothing based in our constitution, it is a violation of freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The same people who wrote our constituion created public schhols to teach children to reads the Bible, and created a national day of prayer, etc. It is obvious that our judicial system has blatently and unjustly misinterpreted our constitution as they see fit, which was one of my main points altogether. "Evolution is not taught as 'fact,' it's taught as 'theory.' Which is pretty much the closest to 'fact' we can scientifically get" No, evolution and old earth are very much taught as fact, although they very much are theory. In truth, science and evulotionary theory are at odds, not science and faith. Science explains how not why, but sadly a scientists personal bias often affects what ends up in the textbooks. You say ID has no evidence to support it, but that is only if you disregard the evidence. Don't worry, I will be starting that debate soon, and I welcome you to join it. "Also, Brittany McComb's mic was shut off mid-speech because she was not following the script she and the school agreed upon." She is one of many examples of this happeneing, and a valedectorian is generally allowed to say anything...except for to share her faith? She didn't have it pre-approved because, as she said, they wouldn't have approved it. So that lesbian chick on TV can criticize Christ, but I'm not allowed to mention him in my V speech? Lol...equality? yeah right. "He can, as can any guest to the school. Of course, not if he's visiting the school AS president, since that would be clear government support for a specific re" Um, the government can support religion all they want to, they simply cant establish a mandatory state religion. Read our constitution for what it says not what you want it to say. "People do dangerous things when under the influence, especially youths who are not yet as responsible as they will one day be. I don't know how well they've worked so far, but I know the motive could not have been greed." Yes, and the government is counting on people to do stupid things. How many people die every year from alcohol and tobacco, or opiate overdose? We live in a place where we tell our kids not to have sex, but we have Sex and the City and Real sex 15 on basic cable. Hypocrisy is rampant, and nobody cares as long as it makes them happy or makes them a profit. If you really can't see the finanial motive behind many of the Judicial system's actions, then I think you must be naive. Legislators don't get paid depending on how many arrests their laws cause. No, but they get paid alot. Why do you think that is? Oh, and I suppose you think that a member of our government is beyond bribes huh?... Virginia traffic law is just one example : http://www.petitiononline.com... "it seems you're arguing that they don't care about their citizens, which hold their future, but will readily throw you in jail and take your money just because they can." That's right, and you seem to think that our governmental leaders are too noble for this. They aren't. I have a friend who thought like you until they took his life away from him over a relationship he had with a girl 2 years younger than him- 17 years old. There is no justice served in our society my friend, and because there are too many people like you who don't realize it, it remains as such. "Also, speed is a huge factor when it comes to safety on a road. The faster you're going, the quicker you have to react if you lose control, the more damage that an accident will cause, etc." Correct, but many people can react just fine at 70 mph. Most accidents occur at or below the speed limit, and are the result of people doing something stupid not going fast. There isn't even any data to suggest that if I got into an accident at 70mph, it could have been avoided at 55. You don't hear about all the accidents that aren't dug or speed related, because that is all they want you to know. You go and deal with our DMV and traffic courts personally, then you tell me it' all roses. It isn't about penalizing offenders, it is about making money plain and simple. "Actually, as far as I knew, even drawn child porn (lolicon) is illegal. I could be wrong there, but so what if I am? While you could potentially argue that it's a moral issue, it is probably not a Judicial issue. Just like lying is not and should not be legislated against. The 10 commandments in a courtroom would make it appear that they have anything at all to do with the law, when they don't." Virtua child porn is protected as artwork under freedom of speech, so says the constitution. How did you not know his when you touched on it in another debate about the UCLA? You say morality should have nothing to do with our judicial system, but that is where you step outside of reality. If this were the case, we should have no legal system. If it is morally ok to me to kill you, who are you to sasy otherwise? This makes no sense, and you can't have it both ways. "I say it's ok to have an abortion, but not to smoke a joint, and I enforce that upon you with fears of incarceration and extortion"... "Klansmen are citizens too" Yes, and even they are shown more civil liberty than a student in high school. You can be a racist jerk on national television, but you can't say something harmless that irritates an atheist. "If you want them (my stats) considered in the debate, you have to provide them. Since you're not presenting them, I get to fully ignore this point." I know what I am talking about both from experience and research. it is obvious you have neither. You go on and fully ignore them like you said, and be part of the ever growing problem not the solution. "You have yet to show what rights you or others don't have that another groups does have." No, you just haven't been paying attention. I have been very clear in my examples.