God does not exist as anything but myth

Rebuttal: We have a subjective view of what natural is. Someone like God has an objective view of what is natural. You have your definition of certain terms and I have mine. As stated before, the general accepted view is that God is supernatural in that He has abilities that normal human beings do not have. You claim it is impossible to separate the physical from the non-physical but again you speak in broad terms without ascribing specific definitions. Love exists independent of the physical. You cannot see it and are not forced to share in it. When you die it will continue existing. Its existence is not dependent on you. Obviously there are many examples like that that proves something non-physical can exist, can be experienced, can compel and direct behavior but cannot be seen or physically as a single object be confined. Your broad definitions make your conclusions unconvincing when applied to specifics. It is natural because it exist to you but it cannot be explained as something physical because it cannot be confined to time, space and a specific observable locality. It should therefore be clear that physical and non-physical is not the same as nature or natural and unnatural. They differ and is not dependent on each other but can exist in parallel at the same time as distinct entities. In short, something non-physical has a right to existence the same as something physical because it can also have an identity. Who made the rule of nature anyway? And who demonstrated that law by the scientific method? The last time I checked, not even the evolutionists where in full agreement. As a side note: Try to find someone who still seriously believes we came from the apes like Darwin did. Good luck with that. You say "everything that could happen is natural". That is a supernatural hypothesis. The only way you can possibly hope to establish it as true is if you have supernatural abilities to calculate all probable outcomes. "ALL" includes the unforeseen or the "black swan" as some likes to call it. To do that you need to be able to have a super knowledge, super ability to move between locations etc. As I pointed out before, if you are able to do that you are a god and refute your atheism. The Bible offers the contrary view to yours in that everything has existence BECAUSE God exists. Secondly, the Bible does not say God created existence. He created a material universe that owes its existence to Him. Therefore the universe and everything else is dependent on God"s existence and not the other way around. Your conclusion is arbitrary. Someone who exist and cause something else to exist will obviously have existence. With regards to Job. Your rebuttal is nothing more that an excuse with no evidence to back you up by claiming that some alien who landed on earth imparted that knowledge to Job. Can you give a description of the nature and identity of the alien you refer too backed up by proof? This is what you expect from others to prove God exist so likewise you have to do the same. If you cannot identify the identity under the conditions mentioned then how can you even mention this as a "natural" alternative explanation based on your theories? As stated in my rebuttal, if the knowledge was already known then why did it become scientific fact only after observance in the 1970"s? This is typical of atheistic reasoning, I have encountered before, saying that God was an invention because people could not explain the times and seasons or other phenomena. You are faced with something you or science cannot explain and then you do what Christians are accused of doing, claiming some alien landed on earth? Just like the flying spaghetti monster, there is no historical record of it. However, the book of Job has been here long before the 1970"s. It was not changed and serves as a historical record of a claim made that cannot be explained as "natural". You also claim that people could have figured it out by indirect measurement. Indirect measurement requires information based on observable phenomenon. No human could go that deep without mechanical intervention to gain enough information to make any indirect measurement. "Indirect measurement is a method of using proportions to find an unknown length or distance in similar figures. Two common ways to achieve indirect measurement involve (1) using a mirror on the ground and (2) using shadow lengths and find an object's height. " . https://www.brightstorm.com... There is more than "the best" as you say. The evidence for Jesus Christ and the miracles He did is of the historical type and not only is it proof of the supernatural but it also demolishes all you theories. We call it "historical" because it is well attested too from the ancient world. The best rebuttals against the historical Christ falls in the category you tried above by presenting probable excuses that might seem plausible in explaining what was recorded in the Book of Job. The facts are the evidence exists as written documents handed down and no one"s opinion will change that. The documents are cross referenced by numerous sources and cannot be doubted. The fact that there was numerous people who doubted Christ and the fact that "new" Gospels were written proves that the Bible was subjected to what is called the "scientific method". The scientific method calls for observance and comparison followed by peer review. Some of the people who were involved on both sides of the above mentioned were learned men who were contemporaries of Christ and even the eyewitnesses who witnessed Christ. We have records in written form that testifies to their scrutiny and findings (and I am not referring to ONLY the books of the Bible). Furthermore, the supernatural is everywhere to be found in the Bible, you just need to look for it. Job was but one example.