IF there IS NO GOD HOW DO YOU TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG

For starter the bible is Morally correct YOU CANNOT PROVE ME WRONG ON THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is impossible." Well obviously I disagree.. That is why we are having this debate! I already proved it with rape and slavery! We could add plenty more hideously immoral bible verses if you like! The Bible is a terrible source for morality! As I said before. Following commandments is NOT MORAL! Several of God's commandments were Immoral! Malachi 3:8-11, Zechariah 13:3, Nahum 1:2-8, Nahum 2:2-10, Zephaniah 3:6-10, Zephaniah 2:12-15, Zephaniah 1:7:18, Zephaniah 1:2-6, 1 John 2:7-8, James 5:14-15 , Judges 1:21-35, Judges 1:1-8, Jeremiah 50:21-22, 1 Kings 20:35-36, Deuteronomy 7:16-24, Deuteronomy 13:13-19, Hosea 9:11-16, Proverbs 19:18-19, Deuteronomy 13:7-12, Isaiah 14:21 Judges 21:10-24, 2 Samuel 12:11-14, Exodus 21:20-21, Psalms 137:9, 1 Samuel 18:10-11, Ezekiel 4:12-15 This is the tip of the iceberg! When you claim that the Bible is "Morally Correct" You mean to say whatever God commands is Morality. Each verse I have given you is a commandment from God! Each one commanding the death, rape or enslavement of a person! That is wrong in so many ways! Morality is a system that we design based off of well being! You need to prove this wrong in order for your argument to hold any weight! It really just seems apparent to me that you do not understand what morality is! "I did not say I would slit someone's throat if the bible told me not to I AGAIN was using an example that if there was no God then why obey anyone" Yeah you said that you would slit someone's throat if there was no God! I know exactly what you are trying to say.. Its just insanely ignorant! I already told you that God has nothing to do with morality! Morality is our appeal to consequences! You have many systems in place.. both natural and institutional! You seem to ignore this fact. Its not about obedience! Obeying orders is AMORAL Please address this as you seem to not get it at all! "God he placed some rules to stop BAD THINGS HAPPENING" Unfortunately those rules were Immoral! If God told you to murder your child it is not morally correct just because someone powerful told you to do it! You could completely toss out your bible! ! You can find more morality in a South Park episode! "There are people that think that there is no God so they do whatever they like because they don't care who it hurts in the long run so God put out some rules so people don't do certain things" What?? I do not believe in God! Bamm! I just tore your statement apart! Oh and his rules were Barbaric and malicious! "We are talking about humans please don't involve dogs " Unfortunately for you the Dog on the couch analogy proves my point eloquently! Its obvious you do not get it or you would be atheist by now! " the commandments has EVERYTHING to do with morality it tells how you should live your life because the person who inspired it is a LOT smarter than all of us." Please do not follow the Bibles commandments! You would end up mass murdering and raping everyone in sight! That's not even a joke! Your God says he's smarter.. But he acts like a retarded Bull in a China Shop! After this you took every bible verse for slavery and rape and just summarized them! So the answer to the question "Is it morally correct to own a human being as property" or "Is it morally correct to force a woman to marry her rapist?" Your answer to both of those questions is YES? Is that correct? "I am not better than my God who Created me" According to the Bible you are! "not limited by time space and matter like I am because if he is he's not God example the creator of the computer is not inside of the computer he is not limited by the computer because if he is he didn't create it." Ummm?? What???? "Atheists ALWAYS SAY there is nothing going to happen when you die" I'm atheist and I make no such claim! If I heard someone tell e they know what happens when you die I ignore them.. Because they are lying! Just like an after life I would need proof that there is no after life.. Until then my default is I DONT KNOW! " you want to know about afterlife look at near death experience for example even house that has poltergeist and ghost that's proof of the spirit realm places ancient ram inn" Are you sure you are not Trolling me? I'm not even going to entertain this absurdity! " And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." Hell is the epitome of immorality! It is the Myth of Hell that makes the Abrahamic God the most malevolent and evil Deity ever to be created by man! It is repulsive in every sense of the word and should have everyone rejecting the faith! Alas.. They have not! That is why I'm on this crusade ;P "you are worst than God you have done wrong " I have never done anything that even comes close to the atrocities of your God! My "wrongs" have never reached the magnitude of mass murdering my own children while eternally torturing them afterwards! "the things in the bible are true you cannot prove it wrong" Actually there are entire chapters of the Bible that have been proved wrong scientifically! There are countless fallacies and contradictions! You make a bold assertion while knowing.. You cannot prove that its right either! Evolution anyone? Theft, Envy and pride are fairly innocuous occurrences! If you look at a woman with lust because of the Biology of your body.. How is that wrong? If you lie to someone to protect them.. How is that wrong, If you steal food to feed your children, How is that wrong? None of these actions require an all powerful Judge Judy to swing the gavel and cause a global catastrophe! That seems to be your Gods approach! "WHAT?!! you got a funny feeling in your pants area looking at a girl.. That's eternal torture for you, you little horny heathen!" -God "I don't want you to experience eternal torture I really don't" I'm not worried about it! I really have zero concern for Hell! There is absolutely no reason to believe it exists so you should not go around telling people that it does! "P'S PLEASE (ANSWER MY QUESTION) IF THERE IS NO God HOW DO YOU TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG" Look familiar?.... Ultimately morality is about well being. Whenever you come to a moral dilemma. It means that in order for someone to be well off, someone else needs to make a sacrifice! I have to assure you that I reject the bible and any concept of God as my authority.. Yet I do not eat babies! Where does my morality come from? Why do you need to be commanded to be "Good or bad"? I follow no commandment and somehow maintain a moral lifestyle! By evaluating any given situation we can maximize our well being while knowing that the well being of others benefits us all! Add a little empathy and compassion.. Bamm!! You have your system of morality that is completely independent from ever needing to be told to be "Good" The fact that you think you would slit someone's throat means you do not understand morality or that you should definitely keep reading your bible if that helps you keep the demons at bay! I will be over here.. being a good person without anyone forcing me! If I'm a violent person I should expect to get hurt! If I am disrespectful to others they will be disrespectful to me! This is just an example of natural systems working to help me make a better judgement when evaluation a situation! They also have a law and justice.. Yeah I won! The only reason my opponent is not Atheist by not is pure stubborn indoctrination.. Or he's just an idiot.. Yeah I went Ad Hominem.. I'm feeling pretty good about it.. WHAT?!!!