The Christian God Exists

Rebuttals “Well, I am defending the TRUE Christian God, and really, those descriptive words (except omnipresent) describe God pretty accurately, but they are not the best descriptive words to use. You wanted me to prove the Christian God, and the Christian God is the God of the Bible, not some different version.” The description of the god you are defending was made clear in the rules. If you had a problem with the rules you should not have accepted. The Law Pro appears to concede my point about the numerous miscellaneous laws explaining away any possible beneficial side effects. He then tries to say that since the Israelis loved the law it must have come from god. This is obviously absurd. I’m sure at least a couple Buddhists love some of the laws set forth in the Sutras. If two contradicting religions can be proved true by the logic then the logic is clearly flawed. Love of the law does not mean the law was inspired by god. The Earth is a Cube This is a couple verses earlier before god addresses Abraham Isaiah 41:5- The islands have seen it and fear; the ends of the earth tremble. Isaiah 41:9- I took you from the ends of the earth, from its farthest corners I called you. Why would an all knowing god put a metaphor in his holy book, that he knew would be interpreted as literal for years to come, and then proved wrong by science years later? Wouldn’t it have been smarter to just leave that part out, or replace it with “from faraway places”? Isn’t he setting himself up for people to point at it and say “the bible contradicts science!”? A truly all knowing god could have easily avoided such a mistake and obviously would have. Now here is the verse you claim predicts that the earth is a sphere. Isaiah 40:22- He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. I don’t believe you can set up a tent/canopy over a sphere. Most people prefer flat objects for that which is good because there is a difference between a circle and a sphere. God was smart enough to set his tent on something flat (circle). Here is another verse you used. Job 26:7- He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. First of all this is actually Job talking not god. Secondly a few verses later god rebukes Job for saying this. Job 38:4-7- “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone—while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? God is telling Job that apparently he knows nothing about astronomy, certainly not the fact that the earth is suspended in space. Prophecy of King Cyrus All of your sources state the date that Cyrus conquered Babylon, not when it was predicted in the Old Testament. They don’t support the conclusion you have come to. Actually the majority of scholars believe it was written in the period of Babylonian Captivity or later and possibly by multiple people. It is probable that Isaiah wrote chapters 1-39 in the 8th century BCE, but unfortunately the prophecy about Cyrus occurs in chapter 45. All of this is confirmable in these two sources. (http://en.wikipedia.org...) (http://books.google.com.au...) A prophecy is only notable if it is stated before the predicted event. Egypt The verse actually claims Egypt will be uninhabited for 40 years after its destruction. Ezekiel 29:8-12 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee. And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the LORD: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it. Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia. No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years. And I will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries. Of course this has never happened. Pro attempts to play this off by claiming Egypt is just a symbol. Pro also did not to address the prophecy about the Nile drying up. What exactly is the Nile a symbol for? “But Bible claims to be from God; it must demonstrate it, and it does. Wouldn't practical wisdom be expected from the word of God?” So because I could expect to hear practical wisdom from god, every time I hear practical wisdom it is an indication that god exists? The logic here is laughable. This is no argument for the existence of god. “I have given the evidence to support my conclusion.” I have yet to see any serious evidence proving your claim or even supporting it in the slightest. The Problem of Evil It has already been established that Pro is arguing for the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent god. The Problem of Evil is a successful argument against such a being’s existence. 1. 1. If an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent god existed, gratuitous suffering would not exist. 2. 2. Gratuitous suffering exists. 3. 3. An omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent god does not exist. Defense of 1: A completely loving and good being would be willing to end all evil if possible. An omnipotent being would be capable of doing it. Therefore an omnipotent and omnibenevolent god does not exist. Defense of 2: This one is obvious. Natural disasters, starving children in Africa, animals receiving inhumane treatment are all examples of unnecessary suffering. “William L. Rowe's famous example of natural evil: ‘In some distant forest lightning strikes a dead tree, resulting in a forest fire. In the fire a fawn is trapped, horribly burned, and lies in terrible agony for several days before death relieves its suffering.’” (http://en.wikipedia.org...) Point 3 is proven. Conclusion: The Burden of Proof is on Pro here (obviously) and he must prove that the Christian god probably exists. The burden is unfulfilled. There is no real evidence for the existence of god here other than prophecies that have never come true or were written after the event they predicted. Pro’s case is working against him here. Because prophecies from an all knowing good would have to come true, the fact that they do not is an argument against god’s existence. The problem of evil is also evidence against the existence of god. Unfortunately my opponent has also plagiarized most of his debate. Nearly all of his arguments come word for word, unquoted and mostly unsourced from websites and he is passing off their work as his own. To double check copy and paste his arguments into this site (http://www.paperrater.com...).