The Bible is sufficient evidence for the belief in Chrisitanity

As this is the fourth round, I will further crystallize the case and disprove Con's arguments. First, I will address an idea referring to the motive for believing in God for many Christians. Con states that (I will rephrase for clarity): A)Because many of the 60% that don't take the Bible literally are Christians B)And they do not take the bible literally A&B-> C they MUST have another reason for believing in God. This is a big non sequitur. Nothing shows that if a person doesn't take the Bible literally (s)he is must rely on further evidence to believe in God. Jesus spoke in many fables, yet people believe in what he preaches. Furthermore, Con keeps saying that Christians must have other reasons to believe in God, but provides no evidence for this. The fact is that my definition stands as more relevant than Con's since Con asked for a definition, then failed to refute it. RE: Fundamentalist and fundamental Con asked to debate on:"The Bible is sufficient reason to believe in God". We then debated over factual errors from the Bible. Con spoke about fundamental beliefs of the Bible which I proved to be a straw man (see Galup survey). Con keeps speaking about the fundamental beliefs of the Bible (of which I gave at least one example e.g. Do not kill) while at the same time giving examples about insignificant aspects from the Bible. It has so far been demonstrated that most of people do not take the Bible literally and that my fundamental christian beliefs ar different from the ones pointed out by Con (e.g. imortallity of the soul, do not kill etc.) RE: Literally and fables Con asks what good is something that is not to be taken literally. Firstly, if people accept the moral values of the Bible (do not lie, do not steal, do not kill etc.) they can find the Bible as evidence for God. First the person sees that he has moral beliefs. Then (s)he sees that this moral beliefs are immutable and further searches for reason for this. One comes to two possible answers: evolution and a Creator. Evolution does not explain why all people accept these moral values, yet some don't obey them. If moral values are the best evolution trait, then in a number of generations all immoral people should have disappeared. If immoral values are the best evolution trait, then all moral people should have been extinct. This does not mean that evolution is wrong; it just means that a fairly rational person needs more than evolution to explain moral values. A Creator explains why we have these moral values in us, but some decide not to live by them. Secondly, the comparison with "Inglorious Basterds" (nice movie) is not fair. There are many fables that explain the beginning of the world. They are not "factual" but they offer evidence for who deciphers them. The following story illustrates that: A wise man was asked to dictate to scribes how the world began. So he started: "At the beginning there was a singularity which began expanding. Approximately 10−37 seconds into the expansion, a phase transition caused a cosmic inflation, […] This resulted in the predominance of matter over antimatter in the present Universe." At this point the scribes were very angry and said: -Listen, is there much more of this story? because we are using a lot of papyrus. -About 13 Billion years. -???? We need a shorter story with more accessible words… - Ok. I will start over. In the beginning there was nothing…. This shows that fables, when read properly, can explain a lot of the factual reality. RE: Christian view and moral precepts I addressed these issues above. RE: Double standards + paradoxes and axioms Con said that some errors in the Bible should disprove it as a whole and void it as evidence for believing in God. I just asked the voters to use the same standard applied to science on the Bible to see that it is not voided. It just needs minor corrections. The Bible only fails I we take it literally as a whole and assume that most of Christians are from the middle ages. Once we go past this, the Bible remains sufficient evidence for believing in God. OR more simply put: 1)Using the same high Con standards on science and logic they fail miserably 2)This is unacceptable since we can't manage without them (see previous round about what is sufficient evidence and what is satisficing) 3)We must reject such high standards This is reasoning by modus tolens [1]. Con fails to address three points that I have made. Firstly, I challenged voters to take a decision that uses logic but that is beyond logic (i.e. uses more than logic). Since Con did not address this idea, voters should use my method. Secondly, I further showed scientific evidence for why using this method is rational (see previous round on rationality of being irrational). Con had no response to this either. Thirdly, Con states that paradoxes and axioms are not part of this debate. Why? I showed by paradoxes that science fails too and by axioms that science has a fundamental core that we have to believe in order for it to work. The Bible is much like science from this perspective. Using the same standards to judge the merits of the Bible we should accept it as sufficient evidence for the belief in God if we want to be intellectually honest. This further strengthens my case as an auxiliary argument for the argument of double standards. Please note that this is not a debate about semantics. This is a debate about the method for taking decisions and about the standards we use. Vote pro. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org...