The Trinity Doctrine: Three Different Persons, All Equally God, All the Same God

"Your own Scripture supports my conclusion." Unfortunately for you, you are taking the scriputure out of context. John 17:3--- "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. "The way to attain this eternal life is to acknowledge, worship, and obey, the one only true God, and to accept as teacher, sacrifice, and Saviour, the Lord Jesus, the one and only true Messiah. Bishop Pearce's remark here is well worthy the reader's attention:- 'What is said here of the only true God seems said in opposition to the gods whom the heathens worshipped; not in opposition to Jesus Christ himself, WHO IS CALLED THE TRUE GOD BY JOHN, in 1 John 5:20.'" This was taken from Adam Clarke's commentary on the whole Bible. I believe this puts it in better words than I can. 1 Tim. 3:16--- "Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory." "The mystery of godliness, which is the pillar and ground of the truth, is, without controversy, a great thing. And then he proceeds to show what this mystery of godliness is, which he sums up in the six following particulars: 1. God was manifest in the flesh; 2. Justified in the Spirit; 3. Seen of angels; 4. Preached unto the Gentiles; 5. Believed on in the world; 6. Received up into glory." This was Also taken from Adam Clarke's comomentary. I don't see why this was even disputable. It says that there are six mysteries of godliness, and proceeds to mention those six things, which end up as evidence for the trinity. John 10:29-30--- "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one." Once again, I will point you to Adam Clarke's commentary because he explains things very clearly. "Verse 29. My Father-is greater than all. More powerful than all the united energies of men and demons. He who loves God must be happy; and he who fears him need fear nothing on this side eternity. Verse 30. I and my Father are one. If Jesus Christ were not God, could he have said these words without being guilty of blasphemy? It is worthy of remark that Christ does not say, I and MY Father, which my our translation very improperly supplies, and which in this place would have conveyed a widely different meaning: for then it would imply that the human nature of Christ, of which alone, I conceive, God is ever said to be the Father in Scripture, was equal to the Most High: but he says, speaking then as God over all, I and THE Father, εγωκαιοπατηρενεσμεν-the Creator of all things, the Judge of all men, the Father of the spirits of all flesh-are ONE, ONE in nature, ONE in all the attributes of Godhead, and ONE in all the operations of those attributes: and so it is evident the Jews understood him. See John 17:11,22." In verse 29, Jesus is simply stating a fact. God is greater than all. In verse 30, Jesus is comfirming His own diety. John 17:10--- "All I [Jesus] have is yours [The Father's], and all you have is mine. And my glory is shown through them." You say... "So is Jesus talking to himself? If he is, this is how the sentence would read "All I have is mine, and all I have is mine." Does that make sense? No. He's addressing a seperate being." Um...yeah. Exactly what I am trying to tell you. Jesus is in fact addressing a seperate person, and that is God the Father. In fact, at that time, Jesus is praying TO GOD THE FATHER. It is completely ludicrous to say that Jesus is not claiming to share the same attributes as God the Father. Why would He randomly start talking to a different person during a prayer to His Father only hours before His death? "Acts 5:3-4--- "Peter said, "Ananias, why did you let Satan rule your thoughts to LIE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT and to keep for yourself part of the money you received for the land? Before you sold the land, it belonged to you. And even after you sold it, you could have used the money any way you wanted. Why did you think of doing this? YOU LIED TO GOD, NOT TO US!" You say... "So if I lied to my mom, and I lied to my dad, do my dad and mom have to be the same person?" Of course not. Are your mother and father God? Nope. They cannot, and will never be the same person. This verse cannot be much more clear than it is. If you lie to the Spirit you lie to God. They are completely seperate persons, and completely one God. This scripture says that clearly. I could reference Adam Clarke again, but I would imagine you are growing rather tored of him, so I will spare you. If you would like, you can look it up yourself.(http://www.studylight.org...) Matt. 12:31-32--- "So I tell you, people can be forgiven for every sin and everything they say against God. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, now or in the future." Yup. Adam Clarke again. "Even personal reproaches, revilings, persecutions against Christ, were remissible; but blasphemy, or impious speaking against the Holy Spirit was to have no forgiveness: i.e. when the person obstinately attributed those works to the devil, which he had the fullest evidence could be wrought only by the Spirit of God. That this, and nothing else, is the sin against the Holy Spirit, is evident from the connection in this place, and more particularly from Mark 3:28-30. 'All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme; but he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation; BECAUSE they said, He hath an unclean spirit.'" So, in other words this verse is referencing the unpardonable sin, which is against the Holy Spirit. Clearly then then Holy Spirit is God. This verse is not evidence for you, as you think it is. Jesus came to earth to do his Fathers will. He knew the world would reject Him, and He knew that this response would be natural of humans. Not justifiable, but natural. Jesus knew that He would be ridiculed, and was willing to forgive it. I mean, no mas had ever seen God before, and no man can ever prepare himself for the experience. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit after what Jesus demonstrated was different story. "All of these show how there are distinct and seperate relationships between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Your entire point four serves only to Glorify G-d (yay!) but doesn't further your point, whereas I have shown REPEATEDLY through Scripture how they're different." There is a distinct seperation between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are completely different persons. They are also one God. You sound an aweful lot like an anti-trinitarian. Point four made the point it was supposed to make, and that was that there is only one God. I am beginning to doubt that you read my source on the Holy Spirit that I gave you. It made it clear that the Spirit shares all the same attributes as God the Father. "Plus, he dropped all of MY scripture." Um...Did you actually read my argument? I addressed each of you verses in turn. It was right at the bottom of my argument. They were not actually "your" verses anyway. You copied and pasted from that website. You however ignored one of the verses I posted... 2 Cor. 3:17--- "The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." You ignored this as well as the website I posted. Please read my arguments before condemning then. Thanks, Renzzy