Thett/ bossy Tournament R1 (ASOIAF) R + L = J is most likely the correct theory.

It is now the final round in the debate, and my opponent STILL has not offered a reason why anyone would doubt Dany's parents are actually Rhaella and Aerys II Targaryen. It is not enough to simply make a claim that Dany's parents are someone else if you have yet to cast doubt on the understanding of her current parents. If my opponent cannot dis-prove that Aerys and Rhaella are her father, then the rest of the case is meaningless! Why would the mad king have ever had cause to lie about impregnating Rhaella? If Rhaella didn't die during a storm giving birth to Dany, how indeed did she die? My opponent absolutely NEEDS to answer this in the final round, otherwise his theory is flawed at step A.Timeline issues This was never refuted. To re-iterate this point, let get specific. The sack of King's Landing occurs in the beginning of 281 AL. (1) Right after Rhaeger is killed, Aerys sends his pregnant wife Rhaella with Viserys to Dragonstone (which is why neither were in the city when the sack occurred). On Dragonstone, Queen Rhaella dies giving birth to her daughter, Daenerys, a several months after her father died in the fall of King's Landing. During her birth a great storm wrecks what is left of the Targaryen fleet anchored at Dragonstone, for which she is named "Daenerys Stormborn". The rebels lack their own fleet so it takes some time to assemble one to assault the island. Eventually, when they realize the rebels will arrive soon, Targaryen loyalists smuggle the Targaryen heirs Viserys and Daenerys to safety in the Free Cities, where they remain in exile. (1) Under my opponents own arguments, he claims that Viserys was never even on Dragonstone. Where did he send Viserys if not with his mother to Dragonstone like he claimed? Who was Rhaella's child? In Ned's dream in "A Game of Thrones" when talking to the kingsguard protecting the Tower of Joy, this is said in the brief conversation prior to the skirmish:“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”In the conversation with Aerys II own Kingsguard it is even confirmed that Viserys went to Dragonstone with his mother. But that's not even the kicker with this point."The Raid on the Tower of Joy took place at the Tower of Joy in Dorne at the the end of Robert's Rebellion. "The raid took place after Robert's Rebellion AFTER viserys was already gone. How did Ned or Edric, or anyone for that matter get ahold of Viserys? Where did it happen, and why did Rhaella not take issue with this? The timeline has so many holes its easy to lose count of them all.MotivesTimeline aside, the motivation points are still what get me the most. What Aerys and Rhaella's motives for lying to the world about Rhaella's conception, her travel to Dragonstone? Why did Viserys need to feed lies to Dany to secure his claim on the throne? He was already the male firstborn heir. THE CLAIM TO THE THRONES IS ALREADY HIS! The Targaryen's are not dornish, they like the rest of the seven kingdoms honor the male King's claim over the Queen's in official ruling. Viserys would have been king no matter what, especially as the elder. This is why he is PRINCE viserys. Claiming Jon Snow's parents are Ashara Dayne and Ned or Brandon at least makes far sense than R + L = D. I am not going to pick apart the Ashara Dayne theory because my opponent agrees that R + L = Something. If he cannot provide an alibi for Rhaella and Viserys location during the sack of King's Landing then every bit of the R + L logic applies to Jon, way more so than the Ashara Dayne theory goes.My opponent uses Ned's quote that he had not thought of Rhaegar for many years as evidence that Jon is not Rhaegar's son. As if it requires being heavily reminded about the bastard's father in order to raise Jon? This makes no sense.My opponent has dropped the case on Braavos having changing whether patterns, and having access to wood and lemon-trees. These point's go uncontested, meaning that there is no reason to doubt that they (The Targaryen children) would be in Braavos. To conclude this debate, my opponent has some serious explaining to do on providing information that is very necessary in order to even entertain the theory of Dany being Lyanna's child. There is so much that simply does not make sense if they are her parents, besides the fact that the timeline is literally impossible. I thank skeps once again for what was a very interesting debate, and wish him the best of luck in the voting period. 1. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com... 2. http://awoiaf.westeros.org...