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Accept if you Dare #3: Flappy Bird is an Absurd and/or Terrible Game

A1: Previously, you argued that Flappy Bird revolves around muscle memory, and increases concentration and memory skills. However, the fallacy in this argument is that his will only be the case if they play the game too much, and they will only play the game if they are excessively driven to get the high score, which I showed in round one to be unimportant. This can cause the game to become frustrating, and thus he frustration would easily distract the player from anything the game was teaching them. A2: "...Flappy Bird is a marvelous game because it makes a lot of money!" Flappy Bird actually makes 50K. Games that are actually by no means absurd actually make much more money. I will be using Super Smash Bros Brawl as an example game in my argument. It has actually sold millions of copies [1] and therefore obviously made far more money than Flappy Bird. A3: "The high score 'idea'...stimulates the determination and perseverance to continue to beat the highest score and to become one of the best, which is key in aspects of today's life, to be offered a job, and succeed in overcoming obstacles," that argument is completely invalid because SSBB can teach a player the same thing because there are many trophies, songs, and characters to unlock, and this requires tremendous skill and perseverance. How much of these two qualities each game requires is irrelevant to this debate. A4: Unlike Flappy Bird, SSBB has plenty if variety and takes a long time to feel monotonous to a sufficiently intelligent and self-disciplined player. Also, you have done nothing to refute my point that it is a monotonous game or that people have died just playing video games. Conclusion: Flappy Bird can have only the same positive effects a less absurd game can have and makes much less money, and that makes it absurd. Sources: [1]- http://video-games.findthebest.com...
Accept if you Dare #3: Flappy Bird is an Absurd and/or Terrible Game

Hello Loveshismom! I happily accept this debate and your terms! I would also like to point out that this is my first debate, and I am all ears to any constructive criticisms you can give me! ! A1: Flappy Bird is not an absurd game, because it revolves around muscle memory, and helps to increase your concentration and memory skills. The pattern of the Bird going up and down helps to keep a rhythm and stimulate muscle memory. A2: From a financial point of view, Flappy Bird is a marvelous game because it makes a lot of money! The game was made to be addicting, in order to stimulate interest in a large population and make money off of both ads and purchases. A3: The high score "idea" is not bad as it stimulates the determination and perseverance to continue to beat the highest score and to become one of the best, which is key in aspects of today's life, to be offered a job, and succeed in overcoming obstacles. Conclusion: Flappy Bird is not an absurd game because it makes a lot of money, and practices valuable skills that many games offer.
Accept if you Dare #3: Flappy Bird is an Absurd and/or Terrible Game

Hello! This debate is part of a series called "Accept if you dare," where I take unorthodox topics and instigate debates on them. I will argue that Flappy Bird is absurd and/or terrible. By "absurd," I am saying politely that Flappy Bird is stupid. And by stupid, I mean that it is characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness and/or annoying or irritating [1]. A1: It is always the same thing. All you do is tap the screen to fly through green pipes and across a background that were both apparently ripped off of Mario until you crash into either a pipe or the ground. There is no variety. A2: the game relies solely on the player's determination to get the high score. I will clearly demonstrate that getting the high score is one of the least important things in life. If it is that unimportant, then anyone who places a high level of value on it lacks sufficient self-discipline and/or intelligence, and that makes Flappy Bird and other games like it absurd. SA2A: Whether or not a person gets a high score can only have a negative impact impact on them, if any. Getting the high score will not make you more popular, help with a friendship, make you more "worthy" than others, or get you a job. Skill at a job requirement and skill that makes you the best in the world at a video game are two entirely different things. Because of Flappy Bird's constant pace, achieving the high score is time-consuming because you must play it constantly in order to build up your skill. Because this takes so long, it is impossible not to be addicted by the time you are able to get he high score. People have also been known to literally die simply by playing video games excessively [2]. Conclusion: Flappy Bird is a monotonous game that has with less effect the less value he player places on attaining the high score, and is as dangerous as any other game if one becomes addicted to it, and is therefore absurd. Sources: [1]- http://dictionary.reference.com... [2]- http://www.ranker.com...
Accept if you Dare #3: Flappy Bird is an Absurd and/or Terrible Game

A1: Because there is no variety in Flappy Bird, it does not fulfil a player's need for autonomy, where as SSBB does. The player has various characters to fight as and feels like they (and frankly do) have a choice beyond which level to pick, plus they can collect stickers to better equip the characters, further increasing the sense of autonomy. A2: Flappy Bird makes you feel incompetent after breaking an addiction because it makes you realize how absurd it really is. Achievements feel like nothing if it is in an absurd game. SSBB is not absurd. A3: Flappy Bird hardly makes the player feel related at all because they are only making a "bird" that looks more like a fish, or perhaps a cheep-cheep from Super Mario Bros. SSBB, however has Wi-Fi so you can brawl with people around the world in real time instead of taking turns constantly like in Flappy Bird, plus it has a mission with a storyline so you feel like you have to complete the mission. Flappy Bird has no storyline. It gives you no motivation beyond getting the high score, and as I demonstrated in round 1, placing the high score so high requires a lack of sufficient intelligence and/or self-discipline. You need less self-discipline than this to completely complete SSBB. Conclusion: Flappy Bird is absurd does not successfully fulfill the needs for competence, autonomy, and relatedness.
Accept if you Dare #3: Flappy Bird is an Absurd and/or Terrible Game

A1: First of all, everything in your second argument can be applied to many other video games that are by no means absurd. There is Sonic Colors (Wii version,) SMG2, Mario Party 9, and many more. They are all long and hard games. Finding all the red rings so you can become Super Sonic is also very hard. As for how much money it makes a day? Its developer recalled it and said why himself: because it is "too addictive" and he "couldn't sleep" thinking about the effects of the addiction on players [1]. Nobody would recall a smart game. A2: "...you have said that the two games can teach the same things," I never pointed out any other similarities, which means that I never said they were the same. SSBB is completely different from Flappy Bird because it has multiple characters, variety, and it has originality mixed in. And of course, it is more fun. The same logic is applicable to SMG2, Mario Party 9, and Sonic Colors. A3: You claim that getting 1000 in Flappy Bird requires the same skill as needed to completely complete SSBB. This however, only proves that the amount of skill required is irrelevant to this debate. A4: Yes, monotony makes the game absurd. As I stated in round one, by "absurd," I meant "stupid." You appear to have disregarded the definitions I gave in round 1 completely. Flappy Bird is irritating to its addicts, and therefore absurd. As pointed out by Disoungh in the comments section, you "basically conceded because of your last argument," where you admitted that Flappy Bird is a monotonous game. Sources: [1]- http://www.complex.com...
Accept if you Dare #3: Flappy Bird is an Absurd and/or Terrible Game

A1: There is no need to play the game "too much" in order to attain the same benefits. If playing flappy bird is like running, you do not need to be an Olympic level runner with one of the top times in the world in order to enjoy the physical benefits of running. One could run a far smaller amount and still enjoy the same benefits of running. Frustration also does not pertain to the argument, as in the same running analogy, not having the number one time in the world does not take away from the advantages of playing the game. A2: I know that my opponent would never willingly do quote mining, but I do want to correct him on the amount of money that Flappy Bird makes. Flappy Bird's producers are said to make "more than 50K dollars A DAY" (1) which if it had been out the same time as SSBB would be making the approximately the same amount of money. A3: Your argument is completely impertinent to this debate, since you have stated before that SSBB is not an absurd game but you have said that the two games can "teach the same thing{s}" . Also I have played both of these games and according to me, achieving a score over 1000 in Flappy Bird is at least equal to the skill needed to completely complete SSBB. A4: The game may be monotonous, but that does not make the game itself absurd. Tetris, and Pong are monotonous that does not make them absurd games. Also, regarding the death toll, the threat of death is very low and happens in all games. People have died of heat exhaustion in soccer, motion sickness in ALL video games, and injuries in other sports, this does not mean that because there is a very minor risk of death in games, makes the game absurd or stupid. Source(s); http://www.cnet.com...
Walking Dead is getting worse by the season!!!!

Ok so first season of walking dead really great, loved it, got hyped then throughout the seasons it for me just go so much more drama in the group then zombie killing. I'm not saying this show should be 24/7 zombie killing but there should not be this much drama. Take the last half of this season holy crap all it was just them talking about their feeling and wondering if we are left I mean god they did this for every character!! You don't need half a season to talk about feelings!!!
Rap Battle (Tru G's only)

~Claimin' I'm hood? Where'd you learn to read? Supreme Court kicked me out tha hood for bein' too G Call me the alphabet, G comes to me naturally I was making rhymes when you were a wet dream ~Is stating the obvious your kind of fun? Of course I was a bitch, I already said I was F*ck'd so many of em started to become one Come to think of it, a few mighta been your mum ~Speakin' of moms, let's talk about mine's chest Seems that you told me that it was nice, correct, yes? Thanks alot, must mean the milk from mommy's breast Musta been the best, you are what you eat, you know the rest ~In the other corner, we've got King Cumslot A little less original than a Bangkok sweatshop A nigga needs to switch style, just like I did You've been watching too much 8-Mile, too much usin' of the thesaurus ~Time to wrap it up, seems you've had enough Gettin' to a nigga like you ain't so tough Burst through the posterior, to the soft interior Abuse his illusions, 'til he's feelin' inferior
Rap Battle (Tru G's only)

So you call ya self a hood, some fake OGBitch please, if original is measured in how much you ANZCheck it out LG! Real ain't measured in how much you boastGiven yo non existent cred, I'd say your transparent like a ghostStalkin gays, is that what lil gangsters do with their daysWith all the dick jokes, I think you've seen a fair displayOld mans, little mans, hell, you claim to have seen my ownStart talkin bout pvssy or you bound to be pwned!So you admit your a bitchWhen I was 7, I was a playerFuckin your mom while you were playing with toysHey boy, this is all just a ployA lyrical mage?If you're a mage than I'm a dragonBreathing fire into my rhymes, while you be bragginNiggas only gettin sick hearing yo weak rhymesBetter stop now, before I kick you in the behind, bitch!I'm hearing yo lesson, but ya got nothin to teachI graduated from MIC, so hear my preachI didn't ask bout yo pops erectionParenting issues, that's just plain depressingIf you wanna real lesson, I'll teach ya dad bout using protection I bust these rhymes like I bust your faceDon't worry, you'll finish first in the retard raceYa wanna cry bitch? Ya gonna die bitch!In the presence of the best, you cringe and cuddleBetter watch out before you slip in your piss puddle.Whiteboy ain't G, that's reserved for the slavesAin't got time for you and yo confederate conclaveHow many niggas have you cappedProbably a lot less than you flapped, oh!Jacking off to some wannabe MercuryIf you can't hit that trash, then ya might as well scurryLike curry, I wreck ya till your blurryMy fist beat down on you in a flurry!Excuse me for my diressbut I don't want to hear about my Moms saggy breastsI'm more than satisfied with yo moms firm chest.Hearing stories about ya daddies molest.Nigga out!
Rap Battle (Tru G's only)

~I was a little bitch, 7 years of age 'Fore my balls dropped I was a lyrical mage Makin' niggas sick like a bacteriophage Get so many bitches dick smells like a clambake ~On the other hand, to the contrary Here we got this nigga, so weak that it's scary When he was my age, grand-daddy popped his cherry Got a dick like Sasquatch, primitive and imaginary ~Take a seat, get a pen, pay attention to my lesson These rhymes'll deflate you like an elderly erection Little Orphan Wolff, don't get no affection Too bad daddy couldn't afford some protection ~But my apologies, I digress It isn't nice to make fun of someone who can't get dressed Hands like tentacles, still clutchin' mama's breasts Big fuckin' shame she didn't swallow like the rest
Rap Battle (Tru G's only)

You throw around the word G like you own it.Still dependent on rep like your mothers titBetter get a grip while I prepare your acquittalSurvive prison? You're just way to brittleKeep calling yourself a b!tch and you might just become oneIf you ask me, it doesn't suit you, hunWonder why I refer to you in the feminine articleBecause your dick is so small it looks like a subatomic particleYour moms breast were once quite firmAfter my sucking sessions, all they do is squirmWe fvck all night, as she takes in my spermWith that much of my dna, I'm with her for the long termYou've seen my cumshots?More like King Cums-a-lotsOrgasms last 30 seconds on the clockB!tch gawks so hard its like beating into a chopping blockWraping up, all to soon?More time for me to make your lady swoonNothing personal niggaMines just biggaNow if you want to flee and call it a dayOh well, just another win for the cacheHate to see these FG's show me what they gotBut talkin $hit doesn't make you no bigshot
Blind Debating #1

Con states that dough is in doughnuts. However, does this truly mean that doughnuts are made out of dough? Is the fact of the dough being baked enough to determine that doughnuts are not make out of dough? I say not. I believe that the baked state of the ingredients negates the original dough state. The consistency and taste are entirely different. Dough and doughnuts are too different, and I believe that doughnuts are indeed, not made out of dough.
Blind Debating #1

Well, this is interesting. I forgot to add a rule and was going to, but then MrMoney accepted. I was going to add the rule of no dumb topics - ask in the comments if you aren't sure. And this is one that I would say is dumb. However, that is not going to stop me from trying to win this one. It is a common opinion that doughnuts are made out of dough. However, I am here to disprove that. If you go to any bakery that sells doughnuts at all, you can see that the end product they sell you is, in fact, not made out of dough. How is this possible? You see, the doughnuts sold do not have dough in them. If you are still confused, allow me to elaborate. When you eat said doughnuts, you are not eating dough. You are eating a baked product of a multitude of ingredients. If it was truly made of plain dough, it would not hold its shape when you would pick it up. And that is why doughnuts are, indeed, not made of dough. MrMoney, if you would like, you can change the debate topic. I'll allow it.
Blind Debating #1

I am doing a thing called blind debating. My contender will pick a topic, and no matter what it is, I will take the pro side of it. I have never done this before, and I want to see how it turns out. Rules: 1. No religious topics. 2. The contender may either go first and must forfeit the last round, or simply accept the debate in the first round and let me go first. 3. The topic must be given to me in the first round. 4. All arguments must go according to debate format - written below. 5. No forfeiture. If either member forfeits, the other must accept an excuse provided by the violator in the comments. If the excuse is not accepted, the member who forfeited has violated the rules. 6. Violation of the rules results in loss of all seven points. Debate Format: Round One: Acceptance, Questions/Concerns, and Definitions Only (No Arguments) Round Two: Pro Arguments Round Three: Pro Rebuttals Round Four: Con Arguments Round Five: Con Rebuttals If the contender decides to go first, the rounds will start with the contender's argument and end with my argument.
Guitar Hero gives false hopes to people

Having received no rebuttal to address from Anzum, I guess I'll rest my case. I would point out that there are a variety of practical applications for video games that are increasingly influencing behavior in a positive fashion. Here are just a couple of examples: Surgeons use Wii to Warm up Before Surgery: http://www.boston.com... Man Saves Life of Accident Victims After Learning First Aid from "America's Army" http://www.boston.com...
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a good president.

Disappointing forfeiture. But I extend anyways. FDR spent more money than we have. The national debt was nothing, or close to nothing, when FDR began. By 1945, it was 260 billion dollars. If you calculate that into 2014 dollars that is just short of 3.5 TRILLION dollars. . http://s1353.photobucket.com......http://www.davemanuel.com...;http://www.gwu.edu... "FDR aides tolerated ER's intercessions, but became incensed when she supported Walter White's relentless efforts to secure administration support for the Costigan-Wagner anti-lynching bill. The bill had been introduced in early 1934, and while FDR agreed with its sentiments, he did nothing to urge its passage. A frustrated White turned to ER for advice and additional pressure. Her support not only frustrated FDR, but enraged press secretary Steve Early who sent ER a strong memo condemning White's single-mindedness. The tension within the White House increased when Claude Neal was lynched in October. Despite her best efforts, ER could not convince FDR to lend public support to the bill for fear of alienating the senior southern senators" FDR would not help out people of different race, even when being blatantly discrimanted against.
It is better to die trying to be free than to live in captivity

I will make my conclusion brief: My opponent states examples of times where slaves did whatever they could to get away from slavery. Not all cases are like this. During the roman era which lasted over 1100 years it was considered good to treat a slave well[1] although this was not always the case and a slave could be freed in ways other than through escaping. Some owners freed their slaves outright while others let them but their freedom.[2] There were certain organization in Rome that helped slave by their freedom by lending him money. If he failed to return this money then he was sold back into slavery. This also negates my opponents other point that attempting to escape is the only way to gain freedom and regardless his assertion is that it is better to die an an attempt than to continue to live in captivity. Life in prison today is also not so bad that death would be preferable to living in prison. Most people would be freed from prison after some period of time. People held as hostages by rebel/terrorist groups may also be freed some time. In any case waiting would always be better than dying in an attempt to escape [1]http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk... [2]http://www.pbs.org...
It is better to die trying to be free than to live in captivity

1. The Afterlife I will agree with my opponent that you will get to the afterlife regardless of when you die. 2. Life in captivity may not be negative This is an absurd comment by my opponent. The 100,000 slaves who were successful in fleeing from the Southern States from 1810-1850 wouldn't agree with this statement (1). And many more died trying. Those that didn't try to escape did it because they feared caught. Let me say that again to clarify it: They feared getting caught. There was a lot of fear going around. Fear of the slave owner, fear of the whip. Most of the slave owners in that time period who caught an escaped slave would not kill him or her, a dead body cannot work. They would impose torturous punishments to make the slave understand that he or she is not to attempt to escape again, but guess what? Some tried again! The slaves of the 1800s are a great example of how life in captivity is always negative. Another example of why being in captivity is always negative are the founding fathers of the United States of America. I assume my opponent will agree that being free is the opposite of being in captivity. If this is not a case I beseech him to correct me. The founding fathers felt confined (see Round 1 (1) this is part of definition of captivity) Therefore they decided to attempt to free themselves through the revolutionary war. They knew full well that when they signed the Declaration of Independence, if the colonies lost the war, they would be hung for high treason to the crown. However, they decided that subverting to British rule without a say in government was too confining and therefore risked their lives to free their country. Many colonists did die, but they did it knowing they were dying because they were trying to free their country from Britain, and they believed death would be better than living under British rule. (3) Future may not be better if you attempt to free yourself. Again I must disagree with my opponent. The examples above illustrate that as well as a book with substantially recognized literary merit called Brave New World. In this book, the character John kills himself because he cannot escape the force of the totalitarian society. This seems to be the trend in any book about a totalitarian government and history backs this up as well. As the Nazis rose to power in the 1920s and seized control of the government in 1933 many artists, writers, and musicians fled the country (2). By no means am I advocating prison breaks, but what I am saying is, if a person has been left to die in a concentration camp type setting as was seen in Nazi Germany, the only logical choice for them should be to attempt escape, whether that results in death or freedom, it will be better than rotting away. Vote Pro! Thank You (1) http://www.pbs.org... (2) http://www.localhistories.org...