Darwinian Evolution

Thanks, Con for that...rebuttal? 2nd argument? More rebuttal?Thanks for whatever that was...I'm glad to see that Con agrees:"We DO see evolution. (i.e. hawthorn--->apple maggot fly)."My response:Awesome.Con agrees that the species of Hawthorn Fly evolved into a different species, the Apple Maggot Fly.But then Con says:"That is micro evolution, while Darwinism teaches that one species can change to a completely different species (macro evolution)."My response:Hmmm.The definition of Darwinism is "the theory of evolution of species." The definition of evolution is "the process by which animals...have developed and diversified from earlier forms" Neither of these include the arbitrary distinction between micro and macro evolution. Con agrees that we do see the evolution, the process of developing and diversifying from earlier forms, of the Hawthorn Fly, which is both an animal and a species.Con has affirmed the resolution.But I will respond directly to this micro/macro claim.Macroevolution is evolution happening at or above the level of a species.http://www.biology-online.org...Con agrees that Hawthorn Flies evolved to Apple Maggot Flies at the species level, so Con agrees that macroevolution has occurred. Species are organisms that can potentially or actually reproduce viable offspring with each other; that's it.So, if Apple Maggot flies can no longer reproduce viable offspring with the parent species, Hawthorn Flies, then we now have a new distinct species, the Apple Maggot Fly.The change from using the fruit of hawthorns for their maggots to using apples for their maggots resulted in genetic incompatibility between Hawthorn and Apple Maggot, such that they can no longer potentially or actually reproduce viable offspring with each other.Apple Maggot Fly is a new species that never existed before, and resulted from an evolution of the Hawthorn Fly.Con continues:"There is no "middle" animal, for lack of a better word."My response:It always seems like anti-evolutioners only ever think about animals, and they neglect all other life forms.Do you know how many "middle" bacteria there are?Do you know how many "middle" plants there are?And yes, of course, there are a TON of transitional, or "middle," examples of animals; we're one of them. Don't believe me?Human chromosome 2 is a fusion of two ancestral ape chromosomes.Humans have 46 chromosomes, while the other great apes have 48 chromosomes.Chromosomes, made of two identical chromatids, carry our genes, and give us all of our genetic, molecular, cellular, and skeletal structures. A typical chromatid, one identical part of the chromosome, has two ends and a center. The two ends are Telomeres (T).The center is a Centromere (C).T-C-T However, the chromatids on human's 2nd chromosome each have four ends and two centers.T-C-T-T-C-T This shows fusion.Since the telomeres are fused in the middle, we call this a telomere-telomere, or end to end fusion.http://genome.cshlp.org...How do we know what fused?Base pairs on the ends of each chromosome are unique to that chromosome; if you find these unique base pairs, you then know which chromosome you have, similar to how a fingerprint identifies a human.We found the base pairs that match ancestral ape chromosomes on our 2nd chromosome.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...So, when you look at our 2nd chromosome, you see that our genetics have uniquely identifying remnants from our ape ancestors; we're genetically made from two fused ape chromosomes, so we're the "middle" between older apes and future hominids.Ape-->Human-->Future Hominids.I affirm.