zoos

Thank you. "I realize that. The fact is, the minimum is what most people feel is the right amount. If you are told to write a research paper, of a minimum of seven pages, are you likely to do 17? No, it's a pain for you to write and a pain for the teacher to grade. Likewise, larger spaces and better accommodations require more money, which is a put-off for many companies, especially smaller ones." Smaller companies, as they grow, gain money from visitors. They also can get private donations, and loans. (and good example, by the way) Look at it this way: pounds hold dogs, cats, and other types of animals. These pens are very small. Most of the small town pounds don't get the money they need or do not have volunteers to play with the animals. Their pens do not even mimic their environment. Zoos do mimic the animals' environment. "If there are laws prohibiting zoos, think how hard it would be for the owners to get animals on a black market." There are laws prohibiting drugs and murder, but you still find drugs and body parts on the black market. "With no visitor remuneration, operating debts will soar and close down the business." But then what will they do with the animals? Kill them? [illegally] sell them? set them free? All three of these seem very horrible to me. {I will talk about why setting them free is horrible whenever I get to my arguments :) thanks} "My reason was to enforce the idea that since civilized countries, such as Germany mistreat animals in their zoos, that makes the USA a possible target for such violence coming from inside zoos. If Germany, a country with the same rules for maintaining animal well-being, is slaughtering animals (in one of its largest and most popular zoos!), how vicious can America get?" thank you for clearing this up for me. This is why we need better control over who takes care of the animals. It is very sad that it happens, and many zoos like this are closed down. "If we are paying good money to import these animals and maintain their health in an environment that must be synthetically altered, we are not likely to kill them. If we kill cattle, it is because people eat meat, and beef is a common staple in an American's diet. Penguin is not. Cows are plentiful, and what's even better, we don't have to worry about shipping them for days across a rough sea, not knowing how many are alive or dead. Even the reproductive system is flawed. Most of the animals you see in zoos do not multiply well in unnatural habitats." Killing of these animals goes on even in their environment. It is less likely to happen, however, if they are in the zoo. ""6. How many cubs does a female panda have in its lifetime? Usually five to eight babies in the wild." Notice in the Wild--natural habitat. 7. What is the maximum number of pandas that a single panda has given birth to in captivity? The panda that has had the most cubs in captivity was Jing Ji, from the Baoxing region of Sichuan. She gave birth to 14 pandas but sadly, none of her cubs survived." Hm...14 cubs and the zoo couldn't save one? Perhaps it had something to do with the unnatural habitat." This is sad, but zoos do not need fourteen cubs in captivity anyways. This would, of course, lead to overpopulation in the zoos. "True, but most zoos are government property (see above). The government should be as flawless as possible. Cattle serve a necessary purpose for humans. Zoos do not. Pets are personal property and should be treated and taken care of as such" It's not so much the goverments fault as it is the workers. Like I mentioned before, they do need to be more careful about who they hire, but this is not what we are debating. "1) captive breeding is not successful if the animals are a new species to the zoo, or the zoo is having trouble conceiving babies. Also, this may lead to over-population of the wild animals, and less instinctive patterns in the new babies' customs" Captive breeding is actuallly better than getting them from the wild. (animals born in captivity do not know 'how' to live in the wild. Thus, they will not be bothered mentally as much as animals that are from the wild and turned captive.) "2) Can we afford to be testing animals in our zoos? Is it worth it? How detrimental is it to the zoos operating procedure? Animals in the zoo are not the best subjects to be tested upon, especially if they have been bred in captivity." Actually, it is a great idea. Researchers get to see up close how animals will act, and this is how we know which animals will or will not make good house pets. "3) the animals have a safer environment, but it's artificial." But they don't have to worry about "protecting" thier territory. ----arguments---- 1. --Zoo animals are safer and have help that they do not have in the wild. --- Like I have mentioned before, they are free from natural disasters and predators) Wild animals do not have vets, do they? Zoos, however, do. If a captive animal gets sick, there is always someone there to help it. 2. --If zoos were to be closed, what would we do with the remaining animals?--- I mentioned this before, but I was going to make it an actual argument. So what exactly would we do with them? We couldn't just kill them. We couldn't set them free, either. How come, you ask? Because for the ones that have been in captivity all of their life, it would be extremely hard, if not impossible for them to survive. They are used to being fed at regular time intervals, and in the wild, it's hunt or be hunted. They would also not know about predators, making them easy prey. Poachers could easily kill them. cons of being in the wild: It would be hard to monitor endangered species, meaning that some of our endangered species would die out, resulting in extinction. Some animals homes are being torn down, because of humans. These animals wouldn't lose their home if they were in zoos. Unless, of course, Zoos got closed down. http://www.dooyoo.co.uk... (my above source does show some cons about zoos, so don't mind that part :) thanks) Thank you this was a fun debate:) hope we can debate again sometime:) you are a good debater. (Do you want both of us to refrain from voting, or vote but give an RFD?) and to the voters: please give a RFD. It would be much appreciated. Thank you