super man would stomp goku

First of all, read the comments, please.I am NOT accepting your round 1 entry anymore, as you completely plagiarized it! That is illegal and bad conduct. It also was the reason I accepted the debate, as I believed you were actually good enough at English to have a decent conversation with you. Your last rounds, however, show you are not capable of even a civil discussion.Stop with your personal insults immediately. This is very bad conduct.OBVIOUSLY, this debate is NOT limited to the comic part.YOU were the one who talked about Goku's God mode, which ONLY exists in animation. So, we're talking about the expanded universes. I don't care whether you NOW claim to be talking about the comics alone. You didn't state so before.PLUS, you used a cartoon video as evidence yourself, just this round: " also this cartoon justice league video prove so." So, quit with the double standards.Okay, let's try this again:Superman has beaten Captain Marvel, as you said yourself.I have shown you a comic where Marvel beats Superman with EASE.So, beating people in Superman comics is not a linear thing. They have both beaten each other. In that case, it becomes circular."Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" is actually a very true adaptation of the Superman/Batman comics:"In "The Supergirl From Krypton" (issues #8-13, illustrated by Michael Turner), the Kryptonite asteroid is revealed to hold a pod that contains Superman's cousin Kara Zor-El. Batman says her arrival is too coincidental. Wonder Woman abducts Kara to Themyscira to train her for combat. Darkseid kidnaps Kara, intending her to be the new leader of the Female Furies. She is rescued from Darkseid and taken back to Earth." from http://en.wikipedia.org...Superman in this case only beat Darkseid on Apokolips because Batman threatened to blow up the Planet. It's in the comicbook.The term "clone" means a : the aggregate of genetically identical cells or organisms asexually produced by a single progenitor cell or organism b : an individual grown from a single somatic cell or cell nucleus and genetically identical to it (from Merriam-Webster's dictionary)The clones only lacked Doomsday's soul. But when Superman was beaten to near death by Doomsday, the monster was still mindless, too, ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE YOU LINKED TO:"I don't really think Doomsday counts, considering at the time, he was just a mindless beast."http://www.comicvine.com...So, you are saying Superman can be almost killed by ONE mindless Doomsday, but can with one look destroy an army of the exact same thing? No.I never doubted that Superman can survive in space in the comics. That is why I stated that the ANIMATED Superman uses a space suit, and thus Goku must be allowed one, too.Superman will not catch Goku before Goku summons the Dragon, because Goku in my example will summon the Dragon in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, where Superman cannot find Goku, as the Chamber is not in this universe. No power of Superman says he can see through universes. He will not find Goku. He will not find him collecting the Dragonballs either, because Goku teleports from ball to ball, and no power of Superman can find Goku this way. The Dragonballs are scattered around the planet every time. Only Goku with his radar knows where they are. Superman does not have one, he will be totally surprised. Superman, for all his intellect, will never find Goku in time to stop him.The Dragon can turn indestructible Dragonballs into stone. Surely, it can turn the indestructible Superman into Kryptonite. It's in the manga and the anime. Every time the Dragonballs have been used, the Dragon turns them into stone for a year.Of course all the warriors in the universe must be comparable to Superman villains. If Superman and Goku shall meat for battle, they must coexist. Thus, also Superman's villains must exist. Some of Superman's villains died, for instance Mongul ( http://en.wikipedia.org... ). Mongul was killed by Neron, but he was "physically more powerful than Superman and as almost totally invulnerable to harm." He was a warrior. He died. So he came to the Afterlife. Where Goku beat EVERY warrior EVER. So, he must have beaten Mongul, too. By your own reasoning, he would then be stronger than Superman.Because you keep coming up with that linear chain "A beats B, B would beat C, so A would beat C", although I have already disproved it. But BY THAT argument, Goku wins against Superman, because he MUST have beaten Mongul. Goku is - again - repeatedly called "the greatest Warrior in the Universe".We have no proof Darkseid would beat Goku. That is an entirely different debate, and it has not happened in the comics. So, this gets us nowhere. Darkseid didn't go to the Afterlife, so he and Darkseid didn't fight. Mongul is a relevant example, and Superman never physically defeated him. Goku MUST have. So, there is reasonable doubt that Superman would actually beat Goku."the blog is official" Oh, no, it isn't. An OFFICIAL blog would be run by DC editors. I am not confused.Nowhere in the rules it is stated that "anything goes" on the first round. You wanted to debate the existing characters, and Superman's character does not allow him to kill FELLOW HEROES.So, Superman will NOT kill Goku.Ad hominem attacks matter, as they are forbidden on this site, especially if you combine them with personal insults, as you excessively do."Bias" in a debate where we have clear positions? Clearly, you do not understand how debates work. It is the JURY that must be unbiased. You are biased, saying Superman will kill Goku. I am biased in saying this will not happen. The jury decides. They must be unbiased.Goku "huffs and puffs", because in contrary to Superman his metabolism needs oxygen. We have already settled that. Goku is a breather, Superman works from solar energy. He needs no oxygen, so he doesn't breathe. However, we have seen Superman beaten and exhausted already. In the fight against Captain Marvel I already showed you. Which is just one example. Atlas being another: "Superman is getting more tired and beaten up as the fight continues." from http://en.wikipedia.org...Again, it doesn't matter. Goku eats one Senzu bean and is up to full stamina again.Superman is highly vulnerable to magic. It's in the comics. This one, I owned as a kid: http://www.comicvine.com..."At his Fortress Of Solitude, Superman begins an investigation into the reason for his high vulnerability to magic. Scanning a copy of the necronomicon, Superman determines that magic is, in fact, a physical energy form. One Superman believes a defense against can be found. Meanwhile, Zatanna and Zatarra are also on a quest for knowledge. Consulting with Madame Van Jung, Zatanna seeks the origin of magic use on Earth. Zatanna believes that all magic stems from one source, possibly another dimension. The ability for humans to wield magic comes from an offshoot of humanity, known as "Homo Magus". Wielding magic came naturally to Homo Magus. Interbreeding with Homo Sapiens allowed some humans to develop the ability to access magic, through various rituals. Zatana further postulates that the reason Superman has no defense against magic, nor is able to wield it, is because he is an alien, and therefore has no Homo Magus genes in his DNA."So, in FACT, Superman is FAR MORE VULNERABLE to magic than humans. Goku's staff would knock him unconscious in one swoop.The Captain Marvel controversy has been addressed above. Captain Marvel has beaten Superman, Superman has beaten Marvel. Which contradicts your idea of linear overpowering. Do you want to deny the evidence above? Did not Captain Marvel completely surprise and defeat Superman in "Kingdom Come"? Done.What do Thor and Hulk battling each other have to do with this? Even id Superman beat Thor once, he wouldn't have to, a second time. Same as with Captain Marvel.Which means that Goku COULD win against Superman, and you have not met your burden of proof.Superman killing: Thanks for the source, it perfectly underlines my point.Step by step.I already established the death of the pocket universe Zod, Faora and Jax-Ur. Those were VILLAINS. Your task was to prove that Superman killed a FELLOW HERO. You failed.Doomsday did not die in the Battle with Superman, as the Cyborg threw Doomsday into space three issues later, while Doomsday was laughing: "One of these four, a half-man/half-machine who greatly resembled Superman with cybernetic implants where he had sustained the greatest amount of damage from Doomsday's blows, took custody of Doomsday's apparently lifeless body. After strapping the creature to an asteroid with an electronic device attached, the cyborg flung Doomsday into deep space, on a trajectory supposedly certain to never intersect any other planet. The issue ended with a frame of a reawakened and laughing Doomsday, still chained to the asteroid but otherwise alive." from http://en.wikipedia.org...Superman did kill an army of mindless clones of Doomsday and was devastated by it. But those aren't even on your list, so: failed. Other than that, your link shows that Superman refused to kill a possessed friend of his, just as I said: http://static.comicvine.com..."I can't do this" - "I WON'T KILL"There you are. That's YOUR source. Superman WON'T KILL innocents.Now as for the Injustice - storyline, a parallel universe where Superman becomes a villain. Yes, there he does kill heroes, but not FELLOW HEROES, as he has gone bad.As I said, if Superman turns evil, he might want to kill Goku. Then Goku would teleport him into a red sun and end this. Goku has killed villains repeatedly. So in this case, it's not out of character, but Goku would win.I have covered every single angle of this. This will be your final round, make it count.