Mormanism

"To assume the Mormon view of the after life is completely false, we must assume the bible is completely true, something that just cannot be assumed." Lets just take this into consideration. The bible was inspired by God and was written for our benefit. So that we might learn from it and believe. My opponent states that the book of Mormons was inspired by God. But, why would God “write” a book, then a few thousand years latter inspire another book to be written that completely conflicts with the first book? Did not the bible say their would be false prophets to come? If you deny that fact then you deny the fact that the antichrist will come. I thoroughly believe that an organization that promotes service to the extent of the Mormon Church is easily "inspired by God". This is very limited evidence of the validity of Mormonism. I commend the Mormons for doing these good works. But many many other religions or cults do charity work for the poor; or missions work. So does that mean their religion is true? Of course not. I remember going to the march for life and seeing many Catholics protesting against abortion. Not that that’s charity work but you get my point. I could show you videos of Muslims, Catholics, Jehovah witnesses, or Protestants, doing charity and missions like you have shown. I’m sure you could even find Atheists. There are many good and generous people out their. No matter what religion they believe in. My opponent also attempts to discredit the Mormon church by pointing out the John D. Lee incident. After I would like to counter by saying many other religions institutions have had issues of incidents in the past (4). Just because one person of the Mormon faith was a terrible person you cannot assume that the rest of the organization is evil. I’d like to first clarify that pro agrees that their was a massacre carried out by Mormons. Now, I agree that religions do have some incidents in the past that were shameful. But my opponent does not deny the fact that Brigham Young was the one who ordered this attack. What reason do I say that? Well Brigham Young is a big figure in the Mormon religion. He was the so called “second prophet” after Joseph Smith died. So it’s not just some crazy glory hunter Mormon who carried out the massacre, but the very man who is one of the Mormons first followers, and second “prophet”. A man who was highly regarded by Joseph Smith and the other Mormons. http://unicomm.byu.edu... http://www.johndlee.net... “About that time the Prophet Joseph Smith decided to run for the office of president of the United States, and with that in mind he sent out many missionaries. John D. Lee was one of a large group who left Nauvoo on May 28, 1844 for that purpose. A month later when word came that Joseph had been killed by a mob at Carthage Jail, Lee could not believe it. Surely, he argued, God would not permit such a thing to happen to his chosen servant. Only after fasting and prayer and a special manifestation could he accept the reality of the prophet's death. Broken in spirit and sick at heart, he started back to Nauvoo. He arrived after the incident wherein the people of the Church voted to sustain Brigham Young as their leader.” This quote shows further evidence of Brigham Young’s high position. About John D Lee: John D Lee had a position as police guard over Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. So John D Lee must have been trusted and highly regarded by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young to be put in such a position. My point? Just showing who the man was who lead the actuall attack was. http://www.johndlee.net... My opponent in no way has shown which of my statements are incorrect, and therefore I can in no way defend them. In closing I would just like to emphasize a my main point: If God is good and wants the best for the people on Earth then the Mormon church is inspired by God. That is a very weak argument. You could apply that to any religion or cult at all that stems from Christianity. Why not just say the Jehovah witnesses is a true religion, because (according to that logic) if God wants what’s best for this world; then any religion that teaches about him must be true It also brings up the subject of false prophets again. The bible states their will be false prophets (like the antichrist). And False prophets bring false religions. And why would God allow Atheism to come about? Of course I agree that God is good, but that doesn’t mean he will prevent bad things from happening. Pro has done nothing to refute any of these following statements that I made in the last round: __________________ Joseph Smith was an immoral polygamist. Joseph Smith prophesied that David W. Patten would serve a mission in the spring, but he died before then. Although he was uncertain, Joseph Smith predicted Christ would return in 1889 If Joseph Smith was a prophet he would have been right but he was obviously wrong. Joseph Smith said that their were men living on the moon who dressed like Quakers and lived to be nearly 1,000 years old. Well unless NASA are hiding something I'm pretty sure that was pretty much a lie. contradiction “D&C 130:3 says, “The idea that the Father and the Son dwell in a man’s heart is an old sectarian notion, and is false.” But in Alma 34:36, it says “And this I know because the Lord hath said he dwelleth not in unholy temples but in the hearts of the righteous doth he dwell.” Joseph Smith predicted the American Civil war would poor out on all nations. Another false prophecy We do not even have the Gold Nephi Plates which were supposedly given to Joseph Smith. Why did Joseph Smith not provide the plates? He would have gained alot more followers more easily I am sure if their was some sort of proof The Book of Mormon also mention silk but silk did not exist in the Americas at that time It also states that Nephi had a bow of steel. But Jews did no have steel at that time No iron was smelted in the Americas until the Spanish colonization The book of Mormons says that Lehi found horses when he arrived in America. This is a lie as their were no horses in America until the sixteenth century when they were brought over from Spain ­__________________ As my opponent has done little or nothing to refute these arguments I ask you to vote con. One last thing before I close. I know my opponent is new to this website, but Wikipedia is not usually counted as a valid source to use I know I used Wikipedia for my definition of Mormonism. But that was just a definition. It had nothing to do with backing up my arguments.