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The Bible is plagiarized/ Copied and slightly modified from centuries of prior myth

I said "The Bible is plagiarized/ Copied and slightly modified from centuries of prior myth," and that "I will argue that the bible is a plagiarized collection of reworked oral and written myths/ stories that had existed years before." To this my opponent said “chances are, whoever wrote it, was inspired by other stories.” I take this as being exactly reworking other stories that the person writing heard, thus existing before the writing. I referenced precisely the Ten Commandments being derived from Egyptian laws, and even acknowledged that there were more than 10. I also invoked the Occam’s razor paradigm and accepted Moses as the writer, although like much of the bible authors are largely unknown, Luke did not write Luke for example. Moses from Egypt raised and taught Egyptian lessons, took from that the best he felt from the rules of entering the afterlife and wrote the Hebrew laws in the Ten Commandments, 10 laws for his people to live by. To this the argument against was “All cultures have "Laws" regardless if there is a god "present" or not. The Book of Dead, to my knowledge has around 40.” And “One theory of the two being so different is that when the Jews left Egypt, they wanted nothing to do with the Egyptians, including their religion.” But there is no citation of this claim. However, I offer a citation that says the opposite of this un-cited claim: “Hebrew religion may have been compromised on at least two occasions by the pervasive influence of the Apis Calf cult of Egypt, namely the incident of Aaron and the golden calf related in Exodus 32 and Heroboam’s calf worship at Dan and Bethel related in 12 Kings 12.” [1] As for my evidence of the story of David and Goliath my opponent concedes “As far as David and goliath, to my knowledge at least, is a borrowed story or just a "word of mouth" story…” again bolstering the idea of reworked oral and written myths/ stories that had existed years before. It is my regret that in 8000 characters I can not go through and point out every single copy of other stories, and I apologize if my initial claim was interpreted to do so, as I had no intent on going line by line showing how the whole book was copied. Number for example, I am sure that someone just conjured that whole thing up at one point as no other religion goes on and on with names and number quite like that to my knowledge. I merely wanted to show that the bible was comprised of stories that were copied. The whole book, that would just be assuming too much and I don’t have the Library of Alexander around anymore to try and show that to even be a possibility. A Survey of the Old Testament By Andrew E. Hill, John H. Walton
The Bible is plagiarized/ Copied and slightly modified from centuries of prior myth

First off, great topic choice, I am very excited that I found this debate.. To get to the point. While on the surface it appears that the bible is plagiarized by not only one but many different polytheistic religions, (Ancient Egypt, Rome, and Greek being the most common) this is not the case when we take a closer look at the bible and its older text. While modern bibles today are very similar to these ancient stories, we cannot consider then a creditable source because they are so far different from the early Christian text. Here is a common example people like to use when comparing the two stories Horus (Egyptian god) Conception: By a virgin. Father: Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth location: In a cave. Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother. Birth heralded by: The star Sirius, the morning star. Birth announcement: By angels. Birth witnesses: Shepherds. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. He was not successful. These are some just to name a few. They are extremely similar to the bible stories about Jesus and would make anyone think twice. The problem is almost none of these were in the bible until hundreds of years later. Which means the bible today does have these things in there BUT early Christians did not have these beliefs. The bible will have similar text, which you have to understand there will be some, (especially when it comes to moral teachings) but the bible is a very unique book and is very original in its text.
The Bible is plagiarized/ Copied and slightly modified from centuries of prior myth

For this debate, I will argue that the bible is a plagiarized collection of reworked oral and written myths/ stories that had existed years before. Rules:I will allow you to choose the version of the bible we reference. I only ask that it be an English translation (or a translation that I can run through a translator and receive acceptable interpretation). Not a debate on the accuracy, truth or superiority of the bible. Not a debate about God, his word inspiring the bible, his communication with prophets. No Justin Martyr type argumetns. This is a debate about the stories in the bible being derrived from previous versions. Simply saying "that name is not the same," or "the bible version has a **example detail** that your citation does not" is not a valid hole in my argument. My Base Argument: As I am the accuser of the infringement on literary honesty, I feel BOP is on me. However, if you feel the need to prove the originality of the Bible I am sure that would be an isnteresting addition to the debate. I will use citations of previous stories/ myths from other cultures and religions to support my arguments. You can think of my side as saying the bible is analogous to a remake of an old movie/ play, same plot with minor tweaks for the new generation of audience. Analogy:The Manchurian Candidate (2004) (Bible: Book of Genesis) is a remake of The Manchurian Candidate (1962) (Enûma Eliš) with minor plot changes (villain was a foreign government [1962] vs. Manchurian Global[2004]) but the point/ moral/ revelation of the story is the same. I hope you grasp the analogy I am trying to make; Book of Genesis (monotheistic) vs Enûma Eliš (polytheistic) but the story is the same. (I will elaborate in the debate.
The Bible is plagiarized/ Copied and slightly modified from centuries of prior myth

I had said "chances are, whoever wrote it, was inspired by other stories" in relevance only to the first creation story of the bible. The 631 commandments (which is just taken from the bible) http://www.jewfaq.org... And the 42 Sins of the Book of the Undead http://www.perankhgroup.com... There is no reason to believe that the commandments listed in the bible came from the Book of the undead. As you can see the 631 commandments is much more extent and detailed. Yes you are correct Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were names later attributed to their stories. Your quote read's, "Hebrew religion may have been compromised on at least two occasions by the pervasive influence of the Apis Calf cult of Egypt, namely the incident of Aaron and the golden calf related in Exodus 32 and Heroboam"s calf worship at Dan and Bethel related in 12 Kings 12." Which is interesting because it says "MAY have been..." also it only says on two occasions out of the entire Hebrew religion, if you are willing to write off the book only because part of it is similar then you are missing the point. The reason one can not point many similarities because there is not very many and the ones that do almost exclusively occur with the first 5 books of the bible. Which are very small portions of the book. "Genesis "Exodus "Leviticus "Numbers "Deuteronomy "Joshua "Judges "Ruth "1 Samuel "2 Samuel "1 Kings "2 Kings "1 Chronicles "2 Chronicles "Ezra "Nehemiah "Esther "Job "Psalm "Proverbs "Ecclesiastes "Song of Solomon "Isaiah "Jeremiah "Lamentations "Ezekiel "Daniel "Hosea "Joel "Amos "Obadiah "Jonah "Micah "Nahum "Habakkuk "Zephaniah "Haggai "Zechariah "Malachi As you can see 32 out of the 39 are personal accounts of people at that time, what reason do we have to think that these stories are not original accounts? There is going to be things that are similar we cannot deny that, but the bible is far from plagiarism. Think of the bible as hundreds of peoples daily journals of what they did and what they saw, and not so much as a book full of myths, because its not. Some other things I would like to point out... 1.Written over a 1,500 year span. 2.Written over 40 generations. 3.Written by over 40 authors from every walk of life including kings, peasants, philosophers, fishermen, poets, statesmen, scholars, etc.: 4.Written on three continents: Asia, Africa and Europe 5.Written in three languages: Hebrew: Was the language of the Old Testament. Aramaic: Was the "common language" of the Near East until the time of Alexander the Great (6th century BC - 4th century BC) Greek: New Testament language. Was the international language at the time of Christ. While I am personally an atheist, the bible is a very interesting book and gives you a very good perspective of how things were back then.
People that self harm are not crazy

Mental Health plays a major role day to day lives, according to google search,"1 in 4 adult Americans suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year. "That's 57.7 million people! and that is not counting children and teens. "Depression is the leading cause of disability worldwide.",Google.If you were to walk a mile in a city right now, you would pass over 100 people that has been a mental illness, almost all has had a person they know have a disorder. A lot a them have self harmed.
People that self harm are not crazy

The definition of crazy is,"mentally deranged, especially as manifested in a wild or aggressive way." stated by google. I agree, there are people that do it for attention, but the people that do it for attention most likely had something wrong with them as well. I take a psychology class and this topic interests me. People that self harm have a Mental Health issue. It would surprise you how many "on the street" actually self mutilate themselves. Some people self harm in places that are hidden.
People that self harm are not crazy

Any type of self harm is indeed crazy. Normal people on the streets do not cut themselves, or jump off of towers, and it's certainly not a normal way to express your self, you have expressions. If you are to harm yourself, you don't grasp how important a life is, and that you have lost all hope. I would not hang myself to express my feelings, or make my arms bleed and scar. So, yes the topic of self harm is usually fallen under crazy.Also, should've added more characters.
People that self harm are not crazy

It has been known for the mentally-ill to be called "crazy", and are told that they have and deserve no rights. Specificaly people that self harm. People that self harm are not crazy. Self harm is a way to releive your anger, sadness, or they think that they deserve what harm they are inflicting onto one's self. People that self harm normally hide their scars, cuts, burns, etc and the people that don't normally just are seeking help. People with Depression are normally SH the most.
The government needs to regulate every dangerous item, except those they sell.

Well, first lets define "dangerous item" shall we? A dangerous item could be anything used to inflict psychological or physical harm to someone. This could be a gun or a knife. It could also be a simple piece of rope used to strangle someone, or a keyboard used to type the coding for a virus and inflict psychological pain onto another person. Regulating every dangerous item would be literally impossible by these standards. However, if you meant "Items used for inflicting pain." including knives, daggers, guns, nun-chucks, then that is quite different. Most of these kind items are already banned and should remain banned in most countries, including blades, guns and nun-chucks. Our city streets can do without large amounts of violence, we would be better off if you were penalized for carrying something dangerous. Ask yourself this; do we really need to be carrying around violent weapons?
A dream with in a dream is being awake.

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A dream with in a dream is being awake.

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A dream with in a dream is being awake.

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Religion(s) as they stand are bogus!

Wasn't it the catholic church that started the crusades. According to them, every man, woman or child who didn't believe in god the same way as they did was from the devil and needed to be killed. You can see same trend in Islam these days. If you're not with them then you are against them. Just saying that religions have caused most of the warfare over the centuries that has cost millions of lives and over what? some stupid differences in stupid religions that can be twisted into what ever truth someone searches. In modern wars in middle east obviously politics and such are the cause of the warfare. but these radicals find plenty of stupid illiterate deep religious people there who to twist around their finger. Like 'look god said you have to kill them non believers. you go to heaven when u go blow yourself up in a mall' and the poor illiterate basterd believes all that bollox and there you go...a bloodbath. To be perfectly honest most of the deep religious christians or them Jehoovan witnesses that come to your doorstep to spread the word seem somewhat looneybin material to me as well, so it look's like stupidity follows most religions. Just as you said. Might as well believe in Harry Potter book. Anyway i rest my case with that. It also seems to be pointless subject over what to argue. Cause so far i haven't managed to open ones eyes who deeply believes in all of this and non of em have managed to turn me into believer neither.
Religion(s) as they stand are bogus!

Are you kidding me? The ancient wisdom in the book passed? But human stupidity can be left ignored? Oh my! What world do I live in - let me out of here! The book isn't the issue - it's the people. If someone took harry potter seriously, would you attack the book and the movies or the idiots taking it seriously? I rest my case. The wisdom in that book are extremely important as the OT represents the animal in mankind and the NT represents beating the animal and becoming Man, but still being part animal, hence "god" killed his own miscreations with a flood because he still wasn't quite "man", still "animal". The entire book is a huge allegory about man's desires and man's drives; how to deal with them; what what damage they can cause.
Religion(s) as they stand are bogus!

Well these stories in holy books have been twisted over the centuries so that little or non remains from the original fairy tale. In Holy Bible great chunk of the story has been added or changed during the middle ages aka. dark ages (like over 800 years) to keep people dumb and obedient. Hence they are called the dark ages. Every new idea was heresy and might have caused your death. If you call that kind of religion beneficial to mankind then I'm afraid you are mistaken. I agree with you that, at some point guidelines like these might have been useful but, these times have passed. Following the teachings in holy books word by word in modern world is stupidity and causes more harm than good. I'm afraid some people still takes this way too seriously and hence we have too many conflicts, all spinning around religions.
Religion(s) as they stand are bogus!

Religions, like stories, are not bogus. They are important archives for us to turn our porous nature into a human encylopedia! It's the people that are bogus - they see grand poetry and turn it into sand poetry - hint, sand poetry is worse than having sex with a vagina made out of sand paper - the grinding is the type of grinding you get from scratching a chalk board, believe me! The amount of noise they make beats out the sex between two rhinoceroses. Let me give you an example! Yo, dudes, I just read this powerful book of magic between good and evil and I learned the schools of magic through it, I swear I'm not lying, if I was, I'd be a celebrity, but the government just has it out for me even though nobody knocks on my door except you dudes, to tell me not to come over again because I'm weird and annoying, but this time I have proof that I have magic and stuff, look at this page here, see this long word: "Alikizama", it means "Listen to those who appear like fools, for they are the messengers of magic." So you see, you need to listen to me now because the book said so, but in order to accept the way of the magic, you have to wear a pointed hat to signify that you are on point and have a mini steeple to absorb the energies of the magic world we live in. You have to believe! If you don't, the book told me I could suffocate you with the pointed hat for good measure, so... unless you want to live, believe into the love of magic and the practice of learning the secrets of it all - remember, you have a choice... life or death! It's that simple! Now line up dudes, we have a world to convert!
Religion(s) as they stand are bogus!

I have reached to a conclusion, that most religions out there are misleading and therefore wrong. We are reading books like Bible and make ourselves believe its god's words. We believe into prophets and such and Christians have gone so far to believe that Jesus Christ is a God. What he clearly isn't. Everything written in holy books are written by man. Most of the context is meant to keep people in check (and stupid). In fact if we (humans) wouldn't have written these books and follow their dumb teachings, we could have avoided the dark ages. And Jesus was just a man crucified by Roman's like thousands of others. Church itself has ordered death of millions over the centuries. why should i follow this kind of murderous 'sect' If one is to believe in god (no matter how you want to call him) then for me it goes like this: There is only one god (how you call him is not important) God gave us free will to do what ever we want to do in our lifetime here on earth. And there is only one thing that matters in the end. weather you are good or evil. Everyone will know the difference between good and evil, that's in a way a basic instinct. Even most evil of us knows they have done wrong, so in my mind it does not require some book to tell me what is right and what is wrong. God doesn't require you to worship him because he is already all powerful and he wont need anything from you. And since he gave us free will (as mentioned above) he will not tell us what to do, neither will he stop us from doing anything. So what ever you do in life is your choice and weather its good or evil, its also your choice. And what ever happens in afterlife we can never know anyway, since dead wont talk. Basically 3 major religions right now just cant get along. They all originate from same source (Egypt about 3000 years ago) The holy books that are written in these 3 religions are written by bloodthirsty power hungry men thousands of years ago. Why are we still believing this LIE? So if you absolutely want to believe in god then do it in a way i suggested above and we could all get along.