atheism and theism are false by default

I'll try to decipher your post, because it is very convoluted in of itself. My friend, you are jumping all over the map with little logic applied too your rhetoric. At first you agree with me and then twist it to be something else. The clause of "a(theism)=dis(belief)=belief=theism=i accept imagination" is a contradictory statement that is nonsensical. First off, claiming belief equals a belief makes no sense, no matter how many gymnastic logic you throw out. A disbelief is just that, that of no, or absent, belief. A vacuum of the belief. theism doesn't claim there is no God of any kind, it simply means it rejects the notion there is one. Saying there is non with certainty is moving the level higher. Agnostic, as I said, is stating your knowledge, not a position. So I fail to see my opponent counter my opening on how atheism is good by default and as such arguing from agnostic vs atheism is flawed. "Imagination is unknown..." Not really. There is always someone who knows, it's just a matter if they are alive or not. "... and reality is unbelieved." Sadly, this doesn't make much sense too my. If our audience understands your views, that is fine. You have a very low win ration, to which I assume is the lack of communication efficient and people holding incredulity to your ideas because of it. I am having a hard time understanding what you wish too imply and request you to be less vague and convoluted and more clear. I don't see anything logical from you that has yet suggested that atheism is false by default. "am i wearing a hat right now? you can at best imagine it, and you cant go back in time. you can believe me, disbelieve me, or accept you dont know. thats it" You are star manning what atheism is. Atheism says I can not know if you are wearing a hat, but nothing suggest you are wearing it. So I will say you are not, but I can not fully know. Atheist agnostic. But that is also a false dichotomy on religion. Atheism is forced, for the most part, to rely on science and math to explain the world as we know. There is absolutely no evidence for the claim you are wearing a hat, you simply say you are. As such with a deity, there is no evidence too support there is a deity. As such, it is logical to deny the belief of a deity being around and creating the world, especially when it holds contradictions and illogical fallacies, that you can say there is no God, but obviously I can not know for sure. 6 on the Richard Dawkin scale. Wat atheism does is follow science, for most. With science we would discover all there is about the world and learn there is no evidence to ever support your claim you wear a hat, as such no reason to believe you do. A better comparison is me telling you I can fly and make a whistle out of my bottom when I do. But no one can hear it or see me, because I do not let them. The sound can no be heard by human ears or what technology can. That is me making a claim. A rather more important claim than you wearing a hat. You can believe it or don't believe it. You do not say you have no idea, you say it's false. But the best thing is to not outright deny it, but be skeptical. Fence sitting is illogical, Pro, and as such is done by those who make indecisive decisions. That is why we can use science to see if any evidence sup[ports my claim, and if not and science actually shows why my claim might be more related to reality by means of nature and forces rather than simply a power as I claim, then we can deduce my claim is false.