Qur'an is fallible

Sorry for sloppy format,used every character. "Have you observed all of the Stars of the universe" I haven"t seen every Eagle on the Earth,but I still know all Eagles have feathers and wings.We do not need to observe every star in the universe to know what a star is.A star is a ball of Hydrogen and Helium going through nuclear fusion.When a star is massive enough it will even have nuclear fusion to create the heavier elements.What the Qur"an proposes to exist is not a star http://www.universetoday.com... Also,"Clearly it says that a meteor of fire detaches itself from the star,not the stars as a missle"A meteor is not made of fire either.A meteor is a part of an asteroid or comet that enters into Earth"s atmosphere http://www.telegraph.co.uk... An asteroid is a rocky-metallic objects.This is not fire http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu...- Comets are chunks of rock and ice that are detached from larger chunks found in the Oort cloud.When they get closer to the sun the ice melts and becomes a gaseous tail.This is not fire. http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu... A problem with saying that the meteor is of fire is that it means that the meteor would have to have a good source of oxygen in order to keep the fire going.If the meteor is to last it also has to be able to get more oxygen so it does not run out. This is one piece of evidence that the Qur"an is fallible. "The verse actually says that their are7earths.. This would make it harder to argue as there is only1Earth,if referring to this planet.Earth is an identity of this planet,even if there was a planet that was exactly likeEarth it would not be Earth.SinceEarth is an identity of this planet it limits the amount ofEarths to one.It"s like saying there are7of the same person.Yes,there could be a potential possibility of7people with the same genes,but that does not make them the same person.ThisEarth is theEarth,even if we find another planet that is the same and even namedEarth it will still be as different from thisEarth than theEarth-like planets that are out there. This is another piece of evidence that the Qur"an is fallible.The Qur"an states that there are7Earths when that is not true.TheEarth is a personal identity of this planet,much like your name is a personal identity of your own self. "Further: "The word is "yawm" and..."" Didn"t we already get through this?How in one part it says"period"but others it says"days"?Pretty sure we did,you even responded by saying,"Alright what if it is 6 days"after I pointed this out. "41:10 "And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask."" This is the quote thatYOUbrought up. Okay,so the6days,the1000years for each day,6000years to create theEarth. Well,we still need to bring up the age of theEarth.TheEarth is4.54billion years old. http://www.space.com... Now,life appeared onEarth3.6billion years ago. http://www.science20.com... 4.54billion-3.6billion=.94billion years. Now,your quote says that theEarth and life arose in6days,where theQur"an says that one day to Allah is like1000years,so6000 years. The actual amount of time it took forLIFEto form was.94billion years old,but how long did it take for theEarth to form?Well,we can tackle it as ex nihilo or ex materia. Ex nihilo would put it as the time theBigBang to form until it formed. TheUniverse is13.8billion years old. http://www.space.com... This means that it would have taken theEarth9.26billion years to form,which means that the time period that it mentions it took forEarth to form and life to be created is10.2billion years,not 6000. Ex materia would put the starting time at the formation of our solar system, or theSun"s formation.This was4.6billion years ago. http://curiosity.discovery.com... This means that it would have takeEarth and the life on it would be1Billion,still a lot more than the6000years of theQur"an. This is another piece of clear evidence that theQur"an is fallible.TheQur"an puts theEarth"s formation and the start of life at6000years,but that isFARfrom accurate. "For the issue of Abiogenesis.." I ignored it because of what you said,"While theQur'an mentions embryology I think you have misunderstood and mixed up the Bible and the Qur'an." Embryology and abiogenesis are two different things. "Qur'an 23:12-14" First,it says that if createdHIMas a sperm-drop.This is automatically wrong because the sperm actually determines the gender of the child,it could be anXor aYchromosome in the sperm. http://www.sciencedaily.com... It also says that the flesh was turned into bones.This is also a mistake.What happens is that there is a formation ofMesenchyme,which in turn can become the tissues of"the lymphatic and circulatory systems,as well as connective tissues throughout the body,such as bone and cartilage." http://en.wikipedia.org... If it is talking about abiogenesis then it is far off (http://www.debate.org...). Even if it talking about embryology it is still far from accurate. This is another piece of evidence that theQur"an is indeed fallible.It talks about the creation of life by talking more about an embryological formation of life,which is also far from how the fetus forms. ""Since theHiggs boson has..."" You don"tt think I would look at your source?Looking at what site your sourced makes it extremely doubtable.Yahoo answers isNOTa reliable source. The person that you even quoted did not even use his source"s information. 1."If it is theHiggs it will not have an antiparticle" 2."Only fermions,which are subdivided into quarks and leptons,have antiparticles" 3."Really fermions are the things where we have this idea of a particle and antiparticle pair,"saysTaylor,"antiparticles at the fundamental level are fermions with the opposite charge." 4."Some people say bosons that have no electrical charge,such as the photon,Higgs and Z boson,are their own antiparticle.But it is a mistake to refer to them this way" No,the Higgs has no antiparticle.No,the Higgs is not its own antiparticle. http://www.abc.net.au... This is probably the easiest to see example of theQur"an being fallible.TheQur"an says that everything was made in pairs,but this is far from the truth.If we go down to theQuantumLevel we have bosons,which are not in pairs and are not pairs with themselves. "Since Allah created us.." We are testing if theQur"an is fallible or not,and the best way to do this is to tackle it as if it were any other book.This means that when testing if theQur"an is fallible or not we cannot say that what is in theQur"an is true,we have to say that what we have discovered to be true is true.This means that since there is no evidence thatAllah is real,and no reason whyAllah would have to exist,that by theNull Hypothesis()we tackle this as ifAllah does not exist. My opponent then decided to claim thatAllah did this and that,but had no evidence for his claims. This is another example of theQur"an being fallible.My opponent tried to refute this point but had no supporting evidence for this. "Earth created in2days,then4days for everything on earth,moreover(simultaneously)Heavens were created in2days..." So,you start by saying that the4days include the initial2for the creation ofEarth,and now you are saying that it includes the2for the creation of theHeavens? I also cannot find any interpretation online that says"Moreover",as you included in your quotation of theQur"an.Instead,I find the word "Then". http://quran.com... http://corpus.quran.com... This means it wasTWOdays to create theEarth. Followed byFOURdays to fill theEarth with mountains and life,then bless it. Ending with anotherTWOdays to create theHeavens. This is a clear contradiction in theQur"an,showing that theQur"an is fallible.My opponent put up a good fight for this part,but in the end the truth was brought forth.This part of theQur"an puts the creation at8days,and another part puts it at6days.A contradiction automatically means that at least1of them is wrong,meaning that theQur"an is indeed fallible. "Free-will 'Contradicition..." Lets plook at the different versions (http://corpus.quran.com...): Every single one is stating that the only way a person can believe is ifAllah lets them.It also says that he will punish those that do not believe.It does not indicate free will at all,it simply is stating that belief and disbelief is up toAllah. This is yet another contradiction in theQur"an,and a contradiction automatically means fallible.TheQur"an both says thatAllah decides if you believe or not and also says that the individual decides.This contradiction is another sign of theQur"an being fallible. "If you think just a little bit,you'd understand everything is fromAllah..." Lets look at theQur"an again. http://quran.com... http://quran.com... This is directly from theQu"ran,it says all things are fromAllah and then instantly says that evil is from the individual.This is a clear contradiction in theQur"an.A contradiction automatically means fallible, so this is another example of theQur"an being fallible. As you can see,theQur"an is very fallible.There are many more examples that I could bring up,but I am in the final round so I shall not do so.I have pointed out both internal and external inconsistencies of theQur"an,successfully showing that theQur"an is indeed fallible.VotePro