The Dark Knight Rises Was A Superior Movie To The Avengers (Assemble)

Watchmen: Its so funny how my opponent thinks there is any room to argue Rorschach is not the main Hero of the Watchmen. He was the only hero not in retirement, got the others back together somewhat for this films murder mystery, and was the sole one to maintain his integrity in the in while the others joined the bad guy. And though he died, he still got the last laugh when we see his journal was discovered. But it does not matter my opponent conceded he agreed the Avengers is a Landmark film in history which was the whole point to arguing about the Watchmen at all. This debate is between Avengers and TDKR, not the Watchmen. So if its agreed Avengers is a Landmark film in history, than his attempts to downplay it with the Watchmen is irrelevant. Avengers had 5 movies set its characters up: My opponent says there was not 5 films that led up to the Avengers….I guess I have to count them for him. Iron Man 1 and 2, (2), Thor (that’s 3), Captain America the first avenger (that’s 4), and the Incredible Hulk (5). You don’t have all 5 of those and you don’t have the same Avengers movie. TDKR can be watched without seeing prequels: This statement is a false assertion on Pros part. You would not understand the depth of why it matters at all to Bruce to keep from being Batman if you didn’t see the film with Harvey Dent in it. You wouldn’t fully understand why Rachel was special to someone like Bruce, you would not understand why Batman is a recluse, You wouldn’t understand anything that had to do with the League of Shadows. In any case my point that the Avengers characters cannot be called ‘basic’ stands regardless of this point on TDKR’s watch ability without the other films. All the complex aspects of there characters were already set up, and now the film makers can have a lot more fun with them interacting with each other. Hawkeye and Loki: It seems your argument for Hawkeye and Loki being a waist remains the summary of your principal for critiquing the movies, one that is the obviously false assertion that every character in the film has to talk and be important and be used in every possible way they can. This was you case with the Aliens and Maria Hill as well. Non-descript Henchmen is fine, you ask for things that are unwarranted for the plot. Anyway here is my final summary: 1) 1) Movies have to be about something (Rodenberry’s Rule) 2) 2) The Side Characters should only be used to bring out a story about the main characters, not built up for there own sake (Pillars Rule) 3) 3) Movies are better if they are about the Hero’s, not the Villains. 4) 4) Avengers is a Landmark Film, being the first to bring together 5 movies into one epic crossover team-up. 5) 5) All the Avengers powers and talents got pushed to the Max in that film, Batman got in a Rockem-Sockem Fight with Bane even though they are both highly trained ninjas. 6) 6) All of our other arguments were kind of petty things to pick at, my first 5 summarized points are really all that should concern your vote, they boil down the debate to what is contented past pure asserted opinion. Thanks for reading if you did Vote for me, because my arguments are better, or because my opponent forfeited, or if you just want to say Hey I liked watching the Avengers more than TDKR.