Atheism vs Islam

I'm not sure as to what you mean about 3 or 5. I do not agree to 4. Arguments only. I also want to add the rule that all arguments must be in the form of syllogisms.#1: KingDebater's argument from desire and reasonable Non-belief (P1) Every living thing does what it wants to all the time.(P2) God is a living thing.(P3) God wants people to believe in him, so he is willing to do whatever it takes to get people to believe in him.(P4) God is omniscient, so he knows what it takes to get people to believe in him.(P5) God is omnipotent, so he is able to do what it takes for people to believe in him.(P6) Atheists exist.(C) Therefore, a God that is omnipotent, omniscient and wants people to believe in him does not exist.#2: The argument from incoherence (P1) There are three attributes of existents which concern us particularly, these being: A. Primary Attributes - The basic nature a particular thing is composed of. What a thing is, specifically, that it may do particular things or affect those around it in a particular way. The following two types of attributes provided below can only be applied to a thing if they can be related to an existent’s primary attribute and the primary attribute is positively identified.B. Secondary Attributes - Character traits or abilities a particular thing may enact or possess. examples: being generous, kind, powerful, wise. C. Relational Attributes - What we associate with the character. For example, in the case of President Obama, the fact that he is the President of the United States is an example of a relational attribute.(P2) B as well as C are dependent upon and must be related to an existent’s A in order to be considered meaningful.(P3) The term “God” lacks a positively identified A.(P4) Because of this, the term “God” holds no justified A, B, or C. (From 2)(P5) However, an attribute-less term (a term lacking A, B, and C) is meaningless.(P6) Therefore, the term “God” is meaningless; (From 3, 4, 5)(C) Therefore, the god-concept is invalid. When someone says to you, "God exists", how do you normally respond? For most atheists, the answer is simply "prove it." However, this is a bit premature. Before we can get into whether or not God exists, we must first know what a God is. Indeed, many intellectuals have discussed and debated the subject as to what God is throughout history. The fact remains that from its original form, the ANC has stood as one of the most significant threats to the Christian/Theist worldview. For example, consider the following dialogue[1]: Mr. Jones: “An unie exists.” Mr. White: “Prove it.” Mr. Jones: “It has rained for three consecutive days—that is my proof.” If this exchange seems less than satisfactory, much of the blame lies with Mr. White: his demand for proof was premature. Mr. Jones has not specified what an “unie” is; until and unless he does so, “unie” is nothing but a meaningless sound, and Mr. Jones is uttering nonsense. As W. T. Blackstone puts it: “Until the content of a belief is made clear, the appeal to accept the belief on faithis beside the point, for one would not know what one has accepted. The request forthe meaning of a religious belief is logically prior to the question of accepting that belief on faith or to the question of whether that belief constitutes knowledge.” Conclusion Until my opponent specifies what a God is, the god-concept is invalid and “god” is just an utterly meaningless sound. The following argument is tied in nicely with the last. Theists have attempted to provide us with a list of what God is. According to the 1968 National Catholic Almanac, God is[2]: [A]lmighty, eternal, holy, immortal, immense, immutable, incomprehensible, ineffable, infinite, invisible, just, loving, merciful, most high, most wise, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, patient, perfect, provident, supreme, true. As you noticed, these answer the secondary attribute, but fail to answer the primary attribute. Moreover, and more important, the above definition is incoherent. If God is incomprehensible and ineffable, how can the other attributes of God be known if he can neither be understood nor described? Anything with contradictory attributes cannot exist. God has contradictory attributes Therefore, God cannot exist. Sources[1] Smith, G. “Atheism: The Case Against God”[2] 1968 National Catholic Almanac, edited by Felician A. Foy, O. F. M. (Paterson: St. Anthony’s Guild, 1968), p. 360.