Roman Catholicism

1. Actually most things I think you will find can be justified through the bible such as slavery, proselytisation, puts women on the same value of animals such as ox and donkey and the catholic church did for a long time teach that the earth was the center of the universe. So this is very much apart of the religion not even the pope has tried to deny it, would you claim to have higher authority than the pope on such issues? Do you realize the church authorized the crusades which was outlined in the apology? So it's fair to say the church is responsible. So in my view the only thing that's a contradiction here is your argument to the facts. Yes please lets assume Catholicism is false. This next statement I find outrageous, It made my stomach turn. Take for example Fr"ulein Fritzl, in Austria? Whose father, Joseph Fritzel kept her in a dungeon where she didn't see sunlight for twenty-four years. And came down most nights to rape and sodomize her, often in front of the children who were victims of the previous rapes. Imagine how she must have begged him. Imagine how she must have pleaded. Imagine for how long. Imagine how she must have prayed everyday. How she must have beseeched heaven. Imagine, for twenty-four years. And no answer at all. Nothing. Now you say that"s alright that she went through that. Because she'll get a better deal in another life? No, that had to happen, and heaven did watch it with indifference. Because it knows that that score will later on be settled. So it was well worth her going through it, she'll have a better time next time. I don't see how you can live with yourself and say anything so hideously, wickedly immoral as that. Or even imply it. This is the brain on religion folks. I was referring to the church's silence during Hitler's 'final solution', an institution that you believe is a beacon of hope could not even stand up to real evil when it was staring the world in the face. 2. You strike me as someone who has not even read the doctrines you are defending, we are created sick as punishment for 'original sin' something for some reason we are all automatically implemented in even though we had no say in the matter (another wicked teaching of Catholicism), thus my original question that you dogged still remains. 3. Well in my country the rugby league team named 'Melbourne Storm' was caught out for breaching the salary cap and had their previous premierships stripped from them even though not everyone was guilty. But still again you dodged my question I did not apply any "logical fallacy" I not once implemented all priests in the matter, the question was due to the fact that there is a high number of priests that abuse children could their be something wrong with the culture of the priesthood, or perhaps there is something about priesthood that attract pedophiles? I suggested something like abstinence I couldn't care less about priest "virtue" when children are being harmed and neither should you. So answer the question. 4. I'd say when a "tradition" excludes half the human race just for being born then the tradition is immoral. Also because you feel they are tying to accurately represent Jesus should the priests that perform this duties not only be male but also middle eastern why does it only apply to gender and not race? You can have white, black and Asian priests but god forbid there be a female. It seems to me you are trying but failing to defend obvious sexism. When did I mention or imply abortion? If you are referring to where I said that women should have control over her reproductive cycle that means it's the woman's choice whether she want's to have a child and start a family or not, and we all know the church loves to bang on about having children for whatever reason even in countries that can't afford to feed the already existing population. It's from all the statistics in my 'empowerment of women' argument, if you see the one where women rights are being opposed by the church in the reference I gave and then refer it to the other references where I stated the cure to poverty is the empowerment of women you realize that poverty obviously leads to death, and many of the church's teachings surrounding women will sustain poverty. 5. I'm glad to see some common sense prevailing that the crusades do not have your full support. 6. Maybe I should have asked it differently, what catholic view do you accept the creationist version that the earth was created in 7 days and all that literal view of genesis nonsense, or the more scientific catholic view that god was the prime mover, the initial cause for events such as the big bang and perhaps even evolution also how long do you think the human race, homo sapiens have been around for? 7. What do you think happens to these mormons and protestants and even non believers once they die? 8. You seemed to hint towards having someone born of the wrong faith rather than no faith. So my follow up question would be would you rather a baby be born in somewhere say such as Saudi Arabia be born as a non believer baby or born as a Wahhabi muslim baby? And my final question for now would be what is your view on any form of human slavery? Thank you I hope this time around the answer will be more honest.