Fatal Bible Flaws

To restate the rules: I need to show the the bible is not contradictory to itself. The instigators main qualms are: 1. PR 30:5 & 1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, EZ 14:9 2TH 2:11-12;Suggesting God has lied 2. JE 8:8; Suggesting scribes have falsified the word of God 3. EZ 20:25; Suggesting God has put forth malign laws 4. LK 1:26-38; Suggesting an angel of God has lied 5. MT 16:28, MK 9:1, LK 9:27; Suggesting Jesus has lied 6. MK 16:17-18; Suggesting that the quote means Christians can actually overcome poison and venom and that because of that the bible has lied. 7. DT 6:5, MT 22:37, MK 12:30, LK 10:27 Love God;DT 6:13, PS 33:8, 34:9, 111:10, 115:13, 128:1, 147:11, PR 8:13, 16:6, 19:23, 22:4, IS 8:13, LK 12:5, 1PE 2:17 Fear God;1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love. 1. Proverbs 30:5, 'Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. ' A. 1KI 22:23, 'Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. ' The first part shows God had an indirect role in this deception, not that God actually said something in-pure. We are not to conclude from this that it was an evil spirit, or Satan, as some have suggested. Such spirits are not God"s agents. The lying spirit which was sent to foster the false notions which a long course of previous warnings had had no effect in driving away. Now therefore Ahab is given up to them. God sends him "a strong delusion, that he should believe a lie'. This strong delusion was meant to save the Israelis as Ahab was a crazy king and needed to be removed. God did not lie here. B. 2CH 18:22, same scenario. God's plan needed to be fulfilled thus he sent a spirit to aid him in his plan. He did not lie. He only stopped providing true visions to the prophets to remove the king. C. JE 4:10, 'Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! surely you have greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, You shall have peace; whereas the sword reaches to the soul. ' This quote has Jeremiah charge the lord with deceit. Jeremiah at the time is under strong emotion as many false prophets have run rampant through Jerusalem and thus Jeremiah believes it is God's fault. Of course it is just people pretending to be the word of God. Can't trust people. D. EZ 14:9, 'And if the prophet be deceived when he has spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand on him, and will destroy him from the middle of my people Israel. ' This means the Lord has refused to allow an answer through the prophet to the hypocritical enquirer; but if the prophet, by giving the desired answer, allows himself to become a partaker of the sin which God abhors, then God will treat him according to that general method of dealing with sin which is here described. Essentially: If the prophet under the guidance of God were to lie, God would remove that prophet as recompense. God did not lie here, the prophet did. E. 2TH 2:11-12, '11For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. ' This is not God lying to anyone. This is God punishing a sinner by not allowing them the guidance of God. If the wicked were to allow God to guide them they would not have to stumble around in the dark. God did not lie here. 2. Jeremiah 8:8, 'How do you say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? See, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain. ' A. First I would like to point out a flaw in my opponents argument: If scribes were to lie about the word of God, they would not include this quote. The reason this was included was to warn against including false prophets into the bible. The Jewish people were admirably very strict about who was a true prophet. They would kill and burn false prophets. .. here's a link for more info on how the distinguished real from false: . http://www.jewfaq.org... 3. Ezekiel 20:25, 'Why I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live' A. This some understand of the ceremonial law, as if it were given purely to be a check and restraint to that perverse people, consisting of numerous rites and observances, many of which had no intrinsic good in them. "But I conceive," says Lowth, "the statutes here spoken of to be of a different nature from those mentioned Ezekiel 20:11, because they have a quite contrary character given of them; and therefore I take the words to import, that God, in a just judgment for their disobedience to his own laws, gave them up to a reprobate mind, and suffered them to walk after the idolatrous and impious customs of the heathen around them. And whereas, by obeying the laws and ordinances which he had given them, they might have lived happily, (Ezekiel 20:11,) they became slaves to the vile and cruel practices of the heathen idolatries, so as to offer up their very children in sacrifice to idols, to the utter destruction of themselves and their posterity, Ezekiel 20:26. 4. LK 1:26-38, (the verse is very long and my opponent summarizes it efficiently) A. Jesus' apostles had that same exact question too! Matthew 27:11-14, 11 Now Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, "Are you the King of the Jews? " Jesus said, "You have said so. " 12 But when he was accused by the chief priests and elders, he gave no answer. 13 Then Pilate said to him, "Do you not hear how many things they testify against you? " 14 But he gave him no answer, not even to a single charge, so that the governor was greatly amazed. B. Now you may ask, 'but why did the angel say Jesus would be king? ' And to that I say good question! Here's why: Jesus is to not be a human king, but a God king. A God king does not rule in the physical realm. Proof of his kingdom can be seen by the followers of Jesus Christ. Christianity is the largest kingdom by far, boasting 2.2 billion followers of Christianity alone, ignoring the other Abrahamic religions. 5. MT 16:28, MK 9:1, LK 9:27, What Jesus meant by this is that Christians will not have eternal death until his return. .being the end of times when most Christians will deny him, Jesus will deny them before God. 6. Mark 16:17-18, 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. A. If you understand religion is not science then you will know not to take biblical philosophy literally in this quote. By serpents it means devils and/or demons and by drinking poison it may mean imbibing anything detrimental to the Christian religion, as well as when it says heal the sick, it would mean healing the wicked or atheistic of their beliefs. 7. DT 6:5, MT 22:37, MK 12:30, LK 10:27 Love God;DT 6:13, PS 33:8, 34:9, 111:10, 115:13, 128:1, 147:11, PR 8:13, 16:6, 19:23, 22:4, IS 8:13, LK 12:5, 1PE 2:17 Fear God;1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love. A. Looking into the context of the quotes, Fearing God means to respect Him. The same way you would 'fear' or respect your parents or someone of higher authority. When the quotes say there is no fear in love, it means in the sense of a dictatorship. The Jewish and Greek language has different words when it comes to fear. The Latin languages have only one word for many types of fear, that word being fear. I understand how that can come off as hypocritical.