Resolved: Christian Faith and Reason and/or Science are Fundamentally Irreconcilable.

I will begin by thanking Con for this debate topic. I will tackled this debate topic with the goal of establishing that the Christian Faith and Science are two different things. They tackle questions of reality, what exists within reality, and what laws government reality in very different ways. They both make claims regarding reality through two very different methods. This is where we find the conflict. There can only be one reality. But, we have two separate disciplines that make claims regarding that one reality. I will agrue that since science and the Christian Faith are two different things, using two different methods, their claims concerning reality cannot be reconciled. The Christian Faith is a religion. What are religions?Religion1. A set of belief concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the universe2. A specific or fundamental set of beliefs or practices that are generally agreed upon by a number of people.3. The body of people adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices.http://dictionary.reference.com... What are the methods that are used to support religious conclusions? Within the definition of religion, and even the phrase Christian Faith, we know the methods used to support religious conclusions.What supports them? What is the method?1. Personal, third person, or hearsay accounts of events is what makes up the Bible. They are stories. They may be true stories or they may be fictional stories. First and foremost though, they are stories.2. Belief or Faith that the stories are true. The Story of Jobe, beyond the Biblical narrative of the events, there is no evidence that this story is actually true. There simply could be no evidence for the truth of this story. A Christian may believe the Story of Jobe is true. But they cannot know it is true. It is belief or faith that the Christian would use, in this case, to conclude the story is a true story. What supports Christian Faith conclusions?1. Personal, third person, or hearsay accounts of events, the Bible.2. Belief and Faith that these events are true, to varying degrees, depending on denomination and personal preference. What is science?Science1. A branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths2. Knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation3. Any of the branches of natural or physical sciences4. Systematized knowledge in general5. Knowledge, as of facts or principles, knowledge gained by systematic studyhttp://dictionary.reference.com... The definition of science, along with the Scientific Method, tells us the methodology that is used to arrive a scientific conclusions. Science is a systematic study of the physical or material world done through observations and experimentation.Scientific Method has six key components.1. Purpose Question2. Research3. Hypothesis4. Experiment5. Analysis6. Conclusionhttp://www.sciencebob.com... The Christian Faith and Science are two very different disciplines.The conflict, RealityReality1. The state or quality of being real2. Resemblance to what is real3. A real thing or fact4. Real things, facts, or events taken as a wholehttp://dictionary.reference.com... Here is where the conflict arises. Both science and religion make claims regarding reality. Science begins by asking a question and then takes a methodical approach, using the scientific method, in hopes of answering the question. The Christian Faith takes no such approach. The Christian Faith has written scripture that claims certain events took place, the Story of Jobe. The method to determine whether this story is true or false is much different then the scientific process. The story may be believed based on "faith" or belief that the complete text is completely true, therefore the story is true. Regardless of how the believer comes to conclude the truth or false nature of the story, it is clear that the scientific methods cannot address the truthfulness of this story. If science cannot address the truth claim, "The Story of Jobe is true," then the Christian Faith and science cannot be reconciled concerning the story.Christian Faith conclusions vs Scientific conclusionsChristian Faith: "Jesus rose from the dead." Can this claim be reconciled with science? No, it cannot. Science could pose it as a question, Scientific Method step 1, SM1, "Did Jesus rise from the dead?" SM2 Science could research it, although only Biblical text is available, not much information beyond that. SM3 Science could come up with some type of hypothesis concerning the resurrection. SM4 Science cannot conduct an experiment to see if the claim is true. SM4 Cannot be reconciled with this claim. SM5 No experiment, no analysis of data. SM5 Cannot be reconciled with this claim. SM6 Irrelevant because SM4 and SM5 fail. The Christian Faith claim that "Jesus rose from the dead" cannot be reconciled with science. Christian Faith: "The Christian god exists." Can this claim be reconciled with science. SM1, passes, can be formed as a question. SM2, passes, research could be done, studying text. SM3, passes, a hypothesis could constructed, SM4, fail, science is the study of the physical or material world, the Christian god is not of the physical or of material world, therefore failure on SM4. SM5, fail, no experiment, no data, no analysis. SM6, irrelevant due to failure of SM4 and SM5. The claim the Christian god exists cannot be reconciled with science. Scientific: "The Theory of Gravity." The scientific conclusion concerning the Theory of Gravity has passed all six Scientific Method steps. It is supported by evidence and observation. It is supported by confirmed practical applications. The scientific process that produced The Theory of Gravity is nothing like the Christian Faith process that produces Christian conclusions. They are irreconcilable disciplines. Science and religion are two very different things. The operate completely different methods of claiming certain truths about reality. Science is a methodical, testable approach to discovering what is likely to be true. The Christian Faith is no such thing. Christian conclusions asserted first: a first, third, or hearsay account of some event. Then faith or belief is used to conclude the truth of the event. These two disciplines are irreconcilable because they are two different things, and they use two drastically different methods of determining what is true. They are irreconcilable.Floor is your Con