The Playstation 3 is a bad system to own.

First of all, I wanted this to be about the console war, but I didn't clearly state that, so I won't compare them unless it is needed. (i.e. I didn't know if 44 exclusives was a lot, but I compared to the 360). 1. I think it matters a lot. If the company makes the games they so love and they crash, the user probably isn't going to be happy. Also, if say the blu-ray crashes, and they have all these blu-ray games, they won't be worth anything. Also, that wasn't my only argument. It is also just too expensive for someone like myself to buy at $400. 2. You again did not give me a source, so we don't know where this claim is coming from. And that point helps my Sony loss argument. The PS3 price dropped 200, while, as you said, production costs went down by 125. By my measure, that is $75 more than what they were already losing. 3. No argument 4. "The PS3 does not need every game on it to be a good system. The games that are good that aren't on it can be played elsewhere anyway, so people with both systems lose nothing." So this argument relies upon the fact that the PS3 is good because you can still buy another system? What? The fact is that PS3 has very little exclusive games, and none of them are even considered some of the best games around. 5. I'll pretty much conceed this point, because I don't want to get in a philosophical debate. (My point was humans can not make assumptions about things unless they know something that is better or worse.) 6. "not necessarily AS good, but good" Pretty much like my other points, but the ps3 exclusives just aren't good. And there aren't that many. It would simply not be a lot of fun to own a PS3. 7. Again, I won't compare. 8. The media is not going to switch. They're WAY to expensive, which you never responded to, all you said was "They already come out on blu-ray" 9. Irrelevent point, throw it out (conceeded). 10. "both players and discs are becoming cheaper to produce as time goes on. $100 of the PS3's price cut was on the Blu-ray player diodes. Prices will soon reach a point when people will actually make a switch." First, we are not discussing whether or not it will be a good system in 5 years, we are talking now. And right now, they are too high. DVDs have gone down in price, but they weren't nearly as expensive as blu rays are now. When we can get DVDs and HD-DVDs for cheaper why do we need to switch? Also, how do we know that in 5 years the media will discover something new, like with the Betamax? It cannot be shown in this debate that they will go down in price. 11. "First person shooters are generally not the largest games." I don't see how this is relavent. I was simply proving that you don't need blu-ray for a good game, as you claim. "might be forced to go PS3 exclusive or make sacrifices in 360 versions to deal with the issue." We cannot know this until it happens. For the time being, PS3 has little exclusive games and do not plan on making a substaintial amount later. 12. "It's like me saying that I can get a NES at a garage sale for 5 dollars, so therefore other systems aren't worth it." That is what I'm saying about the PS3. The fact that its free does not make it better. I was comparing the wii, which you can eaisly find a game to play online, with the PS3. O wait, the compare thing. O well. But that argument holds. 13. "I was wrong on two things - the PS3's backwards compatibility was not as great as I thought, and I was too quick to say the 360's was so bad." Add this as offense to my position. The PS3's so called 'backwards compatability' is not even good at all. 14. Comparative. Games- PS3, as I have proved, have little exclusive games. Also, the best PS3 exclusives aren't even that great. Take your best games. Hevenly Sword- IGN and Gametrailers give it 7/10, along with Realm of Gaming, Gamerdad at 7, Maxim at 6, and gamestyle at 5. Resistance: Fall of Man: Possibly the best rated game, with an average of 8.5. I'll admit that's a good score, but a console best? I think a best should be at least 9. Jolt and Game Almighty give this a 7.5, Euro Gamer and Gameplatformer give it a 7, and Mansized gives it a 6. Killzone- An average rating of 7/10. The list is too long to list all the sites that hated this game, but here are some: IGN 7.5, GamePro 7, GameSpy 6, Gamecrtics.com 4.5/10. Also, I don't know how credible, but ITSC gives it 3/10. (I guess they don't have to be THAT credible, where talking about how much someone likes a videogame) Warhawk: Also one of the highest at 8.4. As I said, a console best should above above average. Game Informer 8, PSM 6.5. Motorstorm: 8.4 average. One of the only, if not only, exclusive launch title, which I beileve is only for the graphics. I've played this game, and if you have to, you'll know how sticky the controls are. So that's Pluto2493 review, haha. G4 and GameDaily give it 6, Gametrailers and Gamespot give it 7.9. Also, I'd like to bring up that most of the PS3 games are RPGs and Shooters. While those may be ok for some people, I personally do not like them. The PS3 does not fit the needs of a sports gamer, such as myself, nor does it satisfy family gamers, with puzzle, music, or party games. Please don't bring future games into this. While some may be hyped, neither of us know how good they really are. Blu-Ray: "Betamax did not fail because it was something different - it was introduced at pretty much the same time as VHS. It just happened to not do as well as JVC's VHS tapes. While this could very well happen to Blu-ray, with HD-DVD overpowering it in the market, but it's unfair to assume this early in the game. One or the other IS the next step up. They're already being used, and it's only a matter of time before one begins to dominate the market, eclipsing both DVD's and the competitor." First, I doesn't matter why it failed, it failed. Blu-Ray could fail for many reasons. It is also unfair to assume that Blu-Ray will be the future, as you stated. "Also, UMD's didn't fail. They were meant solely as PSP format discs, something they accomplish quite well." What is your argument here? They didn't fail, and the didn't accomplish well? Did they or didn't they? But yes, Sony's UMD discs did fail despite them saying that they 'are the future of video games'. HD-DVDs Will win anyway. They are superior. http://www.highdefdigest.com... The fact still remains. Blu-ray prices, right now, are way to expensive. You can accomplish the same things blu ray does with DVDs, and are yet more pricey. Online: From Yahoo! answers: Best Answer - Chosen by Voters The only good online game for the PS3 that I can think of that's not a first person shooter is Warhawk. Warhawk is an online only game though, there is no campaign. As you said, first person shooters aren't even the biggest genre. I rest my case. O wait, no I don't. As I have been reasearching, I found that a lot of games have been troubling to play online like Smackdown vs. Raw. I don't have every game, but I'm sure there a lot of issues like this. Price: As I have said, it matters a lot to people. I sure want to see more consoles from Microsoft and Nintendo, and I'm sure its the same for PS3 owners. Also I said that the $600/400 price is way too much for me when I could get a Wii and a game for $250. Millions of people agree with me, just look at the units sold from my second speech. Haha, I found this, it says a lot of the stuff I said. http://youtube.com... and http://youtube.com... man, I should've said Rumble.