Superman would beat Batman in a fight to the death.

To save characters some of my argument will be in the form of pictures and/or links, and of course my opponent is allowed the same courtesy. Sources: 1.http://dc.wikia.com...(New_Earth) 2.http://dc.wikia.com...'s_al_Ghul_(New_Earth) 3.http://en.wikipedia.org... 4.http://dc.wikia.com... 5.http://batman.wikia.com... 6.http://en.wikipedia.org... For my opponent to cite the fact that Batman has defeated Darkseid and Ra's Al Ghul as a testament to his level of preparedness is very faulty. My opponent did not mention the conditions in which Batman defeated these two villains. His victory over them was clearly plot constructed. Darkseid, who is more intelligent, has better technology, can time travel, warp reality, go blow to blow with Superman, and is also a master tactician(1), should not have lost. Oh and let's not forget the Omega Effect. Take the two out of the realms of storyline and plot construction, and Darkseid would completely obliterate Batman with minimal effort. Sure Darkseid has a weakness to Radion but, Batman has a weakness to umï¿½€ï¿½ everything that can kill any other human, pretty much. Ra's Al Ghul is undoubtedly smarter than Batman, due to the fact that he has accumulated over 700 years of knowledge. He is also a better tactician than Batman. The very first time him and Batman met, he was able to figure out that Batman is Bruce Wayne, through sheer deduction. Ra's Al Ghul also has several lifetimes' worth of skills, wealth and contacts(2). It hardly makes any sense to say that Batman can actually defeat him. Batman's skills are hailed to highly; my opponent might as well say that Batman can defeat Superboy Prime. Again, Batman only won due to plot construction, especially DC's "good beats evil" complex. For those who watched the "Heroes" we know how annoying plot construction can be. Like seriously, all the chances to kill Sylar, and yet he remained till the very end.... -___- Thank you for citing the Superman vs. Darkseid fight. If you will kindly read Darkseid's stats, you will see that he possesses superhuman speed and reaction, yet it is stated that he is still not able to move as fast as Superman. Superman and Darkseid were fighting at super speed(6). Superman can't move at the speed of light, but he can certainly move fast enough to react to whatever Batman has in store for him, such as a batarang. Superman could still fly out the way if he needed to(breaking the sound barrier). I'm not going off of specific comics for my argument of Superman's powers; I am going off an almost all inclusive list on Dc.Wikia. It would be foolish for either of us to start picking certain comics that we want, because then there could be almost no resolution to this fight because we can't agree to the abilities of the two heroes. I could say if Batman is so smart and prepared, how is it that in the Knightfall Arc, that Bane devised a plan in which he weakened Batman, defeated him, and broke his back(4). Then you would just sight another instance in which Batman overcame someone of higher caliber than Bane, thus this debate would really never be conclusive. It makes much more sense to go off the list of our heroes' powers on dc. Wikia. If you were enter the two heroes' stats into a computer, much the same way it is done on a show known as Deadliest Warrior on Spike TV, and then run the simulations, we would see that Superman would win more times than not. If two Supermans fought at full power, they would of course destroy the planet. The only reason this didn't occur in the comics with his other fights, is because it would make no sense for the writers to have planet Earth destroyed just for the sake of Superman, and Darkseid's fight. Every time Superman fought someone with similar power level as him, the resulting clash would destroy everything in the vicinity. Then they would have to write these planets back into existence, and make up more stories, while keep the stories congruent with everything else, this is far too tedious of an objective. Our debate is clearly contingent on the powers and abilities of our Superheroes taken out of DC plot construction. You assumption that the good Superman would win, only makes any sense if this was in terms of DC plot rules, but again it is not. Also, even in DC comics, the good guys do not always win. They win the war but often lose battles. This fight between our two heroes is a battle. I still doubt that Batman would resort to anything that would affect the people of planet Earth. Imagine that Superman doesn't punch the robots, but just blows them up from a distance, now we have bits and pieces of deadly kryptonite in the atmosphere that could harm people. Batman would not resort to this. "Batman can't be fooled"; that is laughable at best. He is not omniscient,and has been fooled the comics. A recent example would be in Arkham City in which Joker feigns defeat, and Batman comes close enough for Joker to spring to life and inject him with his blood, that Batman almost dies from(5). "Superman is not prepared enough to go find slow-kryptonite like batman is and would have to take a ton of time searching to find it." Superman who possesses genius level intellect and is about to fight Batman, and you mean to tell me he wouldn't think to exploit black kryptonite? My opponent is being biased and twisting facts to suit his tastes. Superman would not have to worry about evading Magno Kryptonite, because the fight has not started yet. Each hero has time to prepare and Superman would have obtained the rock far before the beginning of the fight. The fact that he's fast changes everything; I shouldn't have to explain why. Batman does not miss? Batman misses many times throughout the comics, whether by fault of his own aim, or evasion by the target. Why would Superman be so foolish as to negate the purpose of wearing the suit in the first place, by exposing his face to an attack from Batman? I think we can all agree that Superman is not stupid. "Also how does kryptonite smell different from any other rock? Being that Kryptonite isn't just any old rock, but a radioactive substance, and did not originate on planet Earth, it is very probable that it would smell different than "any other rock". The Law of Thermodynamics states that everything decays over time, and this also applies to Kryptonite, which has been stated to eventually decay to iron. Kryptonite is a decaying substance, it stands to reason that it is most likely giving off some sort of odor, the decay is happening to slowly for human olfactory cells to pick up the odor. Superman with highly advance and fine-tuned senses should be able to detect the odor. Kryptonite is a heterogeneous compound made up of different elements. In "Superman III (1983) it is said that Kryptonite is a compound made up of 15.08% plutonium, 18.06% tantalum, 27.71% xenon, 24.02% promethium, 10.62% dialium, 3.94% mercury, and 0.57% of an unknown substance. A Post Crisis story in Action comics #591 (Aug 87) also made Kryptonite a compound."(3) Superman can pick up these various scents, and deduce that Kryptonite must be afoot. Remainder of my argument(tried to embed the pics, but just in case that failed, I posted links to the pics): Part 1: http://i1257.photobucket.com... Part 2: http://i1257.photobucket.com... Part 3: http://i1257.photobucket.com... Thanx to Con For an awesome debate :D