The God Of The King James Bible Created The Universe And Earthly Life

Thanks for accepting Pro. Also, there's no need to be intimidated. I respect that Pro took a genuine approach to proving his god's involvement with the universe and earthly life instead of trying to manipulate the resolution to prove some new age deism energy crap like I have experienced in the past; Pro is respecting this debate's resolution, and I appreciate that. I'll start by rejecting the resolution that the god of the King James Version (KJV) of the bible created our universe and earthly life. Here's why: 1. The universe wasn't created, in any fashion. 2. Earthly life's origin was naturally caused. 3. The KJV's creation account is inaccurate, contradictory, and shouldn't be considered authoritative on matters of the universe's origins or earthly life. 1. *The Universe - all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos* Our universe has matter and space. Matter distorts space and creates gravity. http://www.einstein-online.info... The way that particle physicists and cosmologists look at the total universe's energy is by the totality of visible matter (you, me, the planets and stars) and gravity (distortions of space). Matter, in this energy combination, acts as positive energy (+), because matter is doing the distorting. Gravity, in this energy combination, acts as negative energy (-), because it's a result of the distorting. So, what if we could see how distorted space is throughout the entire observable universe? We can and have. Our universe is flat, because the spacial curvature (the total effect of matter on space) of the universe is zero. http://astrogeo.oxfordjournals.org... Therefore, all of the positive energy (+matter) is cancelled out by all of the negative energy (-gravity) in our universe so that the total energy of the universe is in fact zero. As a set, the universe's matter and gravity would look like [+matter, -gravity] = 0 So, when there was no universe, matter and gravity were at [+0,-0] = 0 There is no matter or gravity to speak of and of course the total energy is 0. In this zero energy state, there is no space/time/matter/energy/gravity...nothing. So, for this debate, I will be referring to "before the universe" as [+0,-0] = 0, when there was no universe. At [+0,-0], there was no time, because there was no space. Space and time a part of a continuum, so we call it spacetime. https://en.wikipedia.org... Creation is a temporal process, contingent on stative time. Without time at [+0,-0], there is no time for a creator to exist, remain, and create; no time, no creation. I reject the claim that the universe was created, because creation is contingent on time, and at [+0,-0] there was no time, because there was no space. 2. *Earthly life's origin is explained by abiogenesis.* Compounds covalently (sharing electrons) bonded to carbon are organic. Compounds not covalently bonded to carbon are inorganic. Inorganic = H N C O (cyanate) Organic = C 2 H 5 N O 2 (glycine, an amino acid) You can tell that the difference between inorganic and organic carbon compounds is rather insignificant. One more carbon atom, four more hydrogen atoms, and one more oxygen atom...that's it. The Miller-Urey experiment in the 50's demonstrated that with an atmosphere, water salinity, electricity, and inorganic compounds likely of an earlier earth, inorganic compounds will produce organic amino acid compounds. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... That's what abiogenesis is...the idea that inorganic compounds can become organic compounds. Though people agreed that lightning occurs without life and in atmospheres on other planets, people still complained that the atmosphere of earlier earth had more oxygen than the Miller-Urey experiment accounted for. The replicated experiments of the Miller-Urey took that into account, and used: 1. H2, CH4, NH3, H2O, H2S and electricity, and yielded the amino acids cysteine, cystine, and methionine 2. CH4, C2H6, NH3, H2S and UV rays, and yielded alanine, glycine, serine, glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and cystine 3. CH4, H2O, H2S, NH3, N2, and electricity, and yielded methionine http://www.pnas.org... "When reduced gases, including CH4, H2S and NH3, are emitted from a volcano into a lightning-rich atmosphere, hydrogen cyanide, ethylene, and acetylene can be generated." http://www.pnas.org... So we know that amino acids, organic compounds, can come from inorganic compounds. But what about genetic replication? Amino acid chains (polypeptides) can fold onto themselves and become biologically active. According to the NIH: "The sequence of the amino acid chain causes the polypeptide to fold into a shape that is biologically active." http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov... So we have biologically active amino acids...how do they replicate? Well amino acids tend to speed up reactions; they're catalysts. So before there was life, there were pre-biotic catalysts, amino acids. "catalysis in a pre-biotic network initiated...the emergence of RNA as the dominant macromolecule due to its ability to both catalyze chemical reactions and to be copied in a template-directed manner." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... So, from inorganic compounds of earlier earth, we got organic amino acids, which, when folded, become biologically active, and can catalyze reactions that lead to the emergence of RNA, which is necessary for genetic replication. Any primitive organism would be replicating with RNA and metabolizing with amino acids, but what might they be consuming? "Sixty years after the seminal Miller-Urey experiment that abiotically produced a mixture of racemized amino acids, we provide a definite proof that this primordial soup, when properly cooked, was edible for primitive organisms." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... Abiogenesis explains earthly life's natural origins. 3. *The KJV bible is contradictory and inaccurate in its creation accounts of life and the universe.* Genesis 1:25-1:27 : "God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good...God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." https://www.biblegateway.com... https://www.biblegateway.com... So this claims animals were first, and man was later. But later on in Genesis... Genesis 2:18-2:19 : "And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone...out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them." https://www.biblegateway.com... https://www.biblegateway.com... This claims that man was first, and animals came later, and that man named them all. Genesis also claims that first "God created the heaven and the earth and the earth was without form...and God said, Let there be light: and there was light." https://www.biblegateway.com... https://www.biblegateway.com... https://www.biblegateway.com... Planets form from stars, which means there would HAVE to have been light for any planet to form, so claiming earth precedes stars is laughable. http://jwst.nasa.gov... I reject this resolution based on such...on to you Pro.