Master Chief (HALO) vs Samus Aran (METROID)

Re: "Samus piloting the Chief's vehicles": The only argument my opponent provides to favor this claim is that samus' ship is more difficult to pilot than MC's vehicles, but (besides the fact that this is just a baseless opinion) for all we know, Samus doesn't even pilot her ship, but rather leaves it to the on board A.I system. We know nothing about Samus's spaceship as there is no Metroid canon which covers the details of the ships mechanics. Arguments are not opinions. Therefore, the contender has given you no logical reason to believe that Samus could say "pilot the banshee or either of the tanks." We know Chief has a mastery over both vehicles and we know that he has decades of study and practice, whereas Samus knows next to nothing. At most, she could attempt to figure out how to pilot the vehicles, but as she sits around doing that, the Chief would instantly take her down with a sticky grenade, the spartan lazer or any other weapon which can easily dispatch vehicles. RE: "Samus not relying on radar, but rather pure vision" I went over this in the last round as well as the round before that. Samus would be a fool to rely on eyesight as Master Chief could use the best hiding spots on Vahalla to elude her mere eye sight as well as put on the cloaking device to make him completely invisible, RE:"Samus just needs to remove her arm cannon." The contender is very misinformed to conclude that samus can remove her arm cannon while functioning the rest of her suit as this is no more than conjecture. Not only that, but as shown in this video, she has the device on her ship remove the suit: http://www.youtube.com... The most we've ever seen her freely remove without using her ship's device is her helmet. Furthermore, the only way she ever removes her entire suit without aid in any of the other games is through using too much energy (which causes the entire suit to self destruct; this is nodded at whenever you see Samus use her Final Smash in SSBB). Given the facts, it is far more reasonable to conclude that Samus simply cannot do what the contender wants you to believe. Though if he wants you to believe anything, he'd better provide you with solid evidence. RE: "the cloaking device won't work" The contender is in error as the cloaking device possesses no such flaw. If he means that Chief wouldn't be able to use it long enough to move past one area, then I believe he missed the intention of my argument as I was dictating that Chief would use the device to FURTHER conceal himself while sniping. As for Samus getting it, that is possible, but once again, unlikely that she could get it before Chief as Chief knows the entire map like the back of his hand whereas Samus would merely be doing guess work. If anything, she wouldn't even know what the device does (not without taking the time to scan it, which would only result in her not attempting to keep track of the Chief). And again, the Chief could easily stage a trap around any weapon/item that could provide an advantage. RE: "Samus could outmaneuver Chief with the morph ball" Master Chief possess extraordinary reflexes and the contender has already conceded to him having superhuman physical prowess. He'd turn around as fast (if not, then faster) as samus reacted regardless of whether or not she was using the morph ball. While Samus was attempting to escape, Chief could quickly eliminate RE: "Wouldn't it be hard to snipe a rapidly moving target?" No, no it wouldn't: These videos represent how impressive the Chief's sniping abilities are. http://www.youtube.com... http://www.youtube.com... People snipe rapidly moving targets in Halo 3 all the time. Just because it might prove impossible for Samus doesn't mean the Chief can't do so. In those vids, the players in the vid have shown that master Chief has the capacity to snipe rapidly moving targets WITHOUT EVEN USING THE SCOPE. This is WAY above Samus Aran's level. RE: "Samus could hide behind a rock that covers her on most or all sides" 1) Name the area on valhalla where such a rock exist. I've yet to find this kind of vantage point. 2) How will Samus know Chief was preparing to snipe her? After all, she would need MOTIVATION in order to do what the contender is saying. 3) If Samus attempted to rearrange rocks, it would take time, and Master Chief would blast her to smithereens before she finished. NOt only that, but he could destroy both her and the rocks with the spartan lazer. RE: "A.I faults" It doesn't matter whether or not it's a fault of the A.I programming. We have no choice but to accept Samus's enemies as they are. And as they are, they are pretty much all about as dumb as a sack of peanuts. It doesn't speak much for Samus to consider them worthy adversaries. The contender has no legitimate argument that proves that Samus' enemies are very intelligent and is suggesting that his most credible source (the game itself) is wrong about the enemies intelligent. This pretty much speaks for itself. RE: "You keep stating that Chief would be able to take Samus down with a long range weapon, thus forcing him to wait in some tree with a sniper rifle while Samus runs around, thus making it very difficult for him to aim." That's not "waiting" in the sense of not doing anything but listening to Cortana. That's waiting in the sense of "being ready to blow Samus' brains out." Besides, the main point I was attempting to get across is that the Chief could rely on Cortana's help at any point in this fight no matter what he was doing. In response to the other points numerically: 1) See my points on her arm cannon. 2) Facing a bunch of weak brainless aliens is different from facing a highly intelligent adversary with super human abilities, uncanny marksmanship, uncanny weapons, decades of battle experience, as well as one sided knowledge of the battlefield. 3) By useful, I meant any weapon which the contender suggested samus would use. And yes, the Chief would have enough traps (and by traps, I mean setting a mine or watching the area closely with a sniper/beam rifle) as the "useful" weapons are sparse on this map. Re: Tactics: No, this proves that his battle experience is incredible. And as a matter of fact, battling for decades has helped the Chief. There is a reason the convenent refers to him as "The demon"; there is a reason he has managed to take down "Halo" by himself. And not being able to wipe out a whole horde of aliens? Clearly, my opponent hasn't played enough of the games as Master Chief regularly faces hordes of the covenent as well as the flood BY HIMSEL. In all 3 games (though not as much in part 3), you constantly go solo against hordes of aliens. RE: "Likely smarter" The contender agrees that the Chief is likely smarter, but responds in saying that the Chief isn't definitely smarter. Well, being that we're talking about two video game characters from two different universes, definitive evidence is next to impossible. But this is no problem as the contender has agreed that Chief is more likely smarter anyway, so this point goes to me. RE: "Cortana cannot help" Cortana is considered an extension of the chief, no less than the on board computer devices are considered an extension of Samus. Fair is fair. And like i suggested previously, Cortana could hack into Samus and disable her armor. BOTTOMLINE: The main argument here is that Chief knows the level like the back of his hand and has battle experience which is more credible than Samus. And as mentioned previously, the Chief could disable Samus' upgrades with Cortana's help or through hitting her with a tremendous amount of force (see where I discuss this in detail). When deciding who'd more likely win in a fight with the conditions I've set, it is clearly Master Chief. Thus, ends my side of the debate. Thanks to all for your time.