God Exists

Thanks for accepting, Pro.This should be good.Pro spent a lot of time discussing contingency, ontology, and how I might respond.None of it helped Pro's case.*Burden*Given the agreed to definitions of this debate, Pro has to affirm the existence of:1. a creator of the universe2. a ruler of the universe3. a source of *ALL* moral authorityPro has to affirm all three of these characteristics in order to meet Pro's burden, because, in the definition of god, in this debate, there is an "and" --not an "or"-- between all of them.Pro must show one entity that satisfies ALL three.*Creation is Temporal*Creation is a number of time-based actions, of a related kind, coming one after another, taken in order to bring something into existence.Pro has already agreed to this, given the definitions of this debate.Therefore, creation is necessarily a temporal process that uses events, one after another, to bring something into existence.This process, creator existing-->creating-->created product, is unavoidably time-based.If there is no time, there is no creation.*Precedence Is Temporal*Creators not only use a time-based process consisting of one event after another, they also necessarily precede their creations.The process of creator existing-->creating-->created product can only be described, if and only if the creator comes before, or precedes, its creation. Well, before (precedence) is another temporal or time-based concept.How could a creator precede its creation without time?Pro, can you distinguish between a creator and its created product without using time or temporal concepts?I argue that without time, one cannot tell the difference between a creator and its created product; one wouldn't be able to tell if creation has occurred because there would be no precedence.*Spacetime*While you may get some differing physicist's opinions on whether or not space and time are the same thing, there is no dispute that they are interdependent.In fact, that's why they put space and time on a continuum, spacetime."In the first place it is clear that the equations must be linear on account of the properties of homogeneity which we attribute to space and time."http://www.fourmilab.ch...Space is also currently expanding at a fixed rate proportional to the distance between the galaxies, called the Hubble Constant.http://iopscience.iop.org...What's great is that we can go back in time by using the inverse of the Hubble Constant and see how long the universe has been expanding.Doing this indicates that space, and therefore time, were at one point very, very small, and as recent anisotropy probes have detected, there was a point when there was no space, therefore no time.https://science.nasa.gov...This also means that our universe's origin is also the origin of spacetime.When there was no universe, there was no space, therefore no time.Spacetime and the passage thereof originated at the big bang, the origin of our universe.Therefore, creation, which necessarily is based on spacetime, cannot occur without the universe existing first.It'd be like saying that a creator used time to originate time...the temporal inadequacies should be obvious.Therefore, there is no creator of a universe that wasn't created.*Conclusion*The universe wasn't created, because creation and precedence are both temporal (time-based), and without the universe, there is no spacetime or the passage thereof, therefore there was no creation or creator of the universe.Also, Pro hasn't gone to any length to show how his proposed entity rules the current universe or is the source of all moral authority.Hopefully Pro gets there.