Jesus was a dangerous, deranged individual

Pro: "though they can certainly do bad as well, as history has shown, such as with the justification of slavery in the history of the early United States." It's a false dichotomy by ommission of other facts. Slavery was prominant worldwide, Native Americans and blacks had slaves, and the Civil War was fought between Christians ...and Christians. It wasn't a religious war. It was political. The Civil Rights main battle was whites vs whites. Joseph Stalin is an example of Atheism gone amuck, but let's keep it real. * Pro: "motivated by both a lust for power and fame." (Matthew 8:4) Then Jesus said to him, "See that you don't tell anyone." (After healing a lepor) (2 Corinthians 8:9) "For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich." (Matthew 20:28)(Jesus) "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." (Luke 22:27)(Jesus) "For who is greater, the one who reclines at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines at the table? But I am among you as the one who serves." (John 6:15) "So Jesus, perceiving that they were intending to come and take Him to make Him king, withdrew again to the mountain by Himself alone." (John 13:5) "Then Jesus poured water into the basin, and began to wash the disciples' feet and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded." * Pro: "but he can tread all over the Sabbath." What he actually did was heal a man on the sabbath. The Pharisees accused him of "working". * Pro: "Jesus, clearly offended by this, attacks the Pharisees for not killing disobedient children as required by ancient Jewish law." 1)The OT command had nothing to do with children. It is about grown adults who forsake their elderly parents by preferring to fulfill manmade rituals rather than take care of their parents. 2)Jesus gives no command to kill anyone but simply points out the religious hypocrisy of the Pharisees according to their own religion that they keep tossing in his face that he did not care about in the slightest. * Pro: "He should wash his hands before he eats." The verse doesn't mention Jesus' hand washing practices. It mentions the Pharisees attacking his disciples and he calling out their hypocrisy and ignorance yet again. And...has nothing to do with Christ being dangerous. * Pro: "Religious establishment of his day and being selective about what Jewish laws he should follow." Actually, he didn't follow any of them because they were insane. So actually he gave logic and reason to humanity by standing against stoning, calling one food holy and another unholy, preaching unconditional forgiveness, animal sacrifices, etc etc. Hardly dangerous or deranged. He was the only one talking sense. * Pro: "his selection is completely backwards in my moral opinion." Deceptive representation. Pro is an atheist. Pro has no "moral opinion". We are simply evolved by random chance. Morality does not exist, only choices, there is no objective purpose or objective morality in atheism. In Saudi Arabia it is moral to behead or hang homosexuals in the streets. It's semantics. If Pro is not an atheist he can share with us his religion and where his morality comes from. * Pro: "Jesus advocates murder, cruelties, and endless misery on his enemies." Blind assessment with no citations or verses. * Pro: "Jesus advocates the destruction of entire cities for rejecting him as God's personally-selected representative, and claims their fate will be worse then the fate of ancient wicked cities." Jesus didn't claim to be "a representative". He claimed to be God himself. Fortelling the future is not violent or dangerous. * Pro: "Jesus condemns the Jewish religous establishment he was jealous of to endless, endless suffering." People are not eternally punished. Someone drank the kool-aid. Annihilationism: lost people in hell will be exterminated after they have paid the penalty for their sins. www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/annihilation-or-eternal-punishment * "Jesus used bribery to convert people as followers, by promising them big rewards and eternal life:" He didn't bribe anyone. Nor is this proof of being dangerous. * Pro: "Luke 12:47, Jesus says its okay to beat slaves." The verse has nothing to do with slaves. Actually he is speaking of the chastisement and correction God gives those who constantly disobey and are his follower by their own free will. Jesus spoke in allegories. (John 16:25) "Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about God." * Pro: "Jesus again promises his followers that they will obtain even the most impossible things when they pray to God." He's actually talking about himself in this verse. No one else had this kind of faith.