YHWH's inescapable existence part 2

"When we still thought that the earth was flat and held up on a mans shoulders, religion seemed obvious. Where did the flowers come from? Must have been god. How did the universe start? Must have been god. " Did the entire universe think that the earth was "flat"? "But as we learned more and more we can fill the gap for god. Now we know that the earth is round, we evolved from apes, the universe started with a big bang, and alot more. At this point religion is denying proven science for superstition. At this point it is ridiculous to continue believing after science already proves otherwise. " Besides the earth being round, the rest of your claims are nothing more than claims. Science hasn't proven anything. Evolution and the big bang are rooted in man's imagination. It seems like your view of "evolution" is oudated. That is, the current claim is that humans and chimps diverted from an "ape like" creature. Your claims, which are outdated, are mere suggestions. They are no "proofs" at all. "It doesn't matter what you say, you have the burden of proof not me. Due to the null hypothesis, the default position is that there is no connection between things on an experiment, or that a phenomena is not possible. So the default position is that YHWH does not exist. The burden of proof lies on the person trying to prove the current position wrong. Again due to the null hypothesis, we are the current position. So you have to prove the current position wrong, and in proving something wrong you need to have proof, therefore you have the burden of proof. " It doesn't matter what you say. The burden of proof is on both of us. Remember you don't know if your mind is playing tricks on you. So, here is my proof again: The proof for YHWH's existence is that without him you can't prove anything. My claim is that if you reject my proof you will immediately reduce yourself to absurdity, skepticism, and almost non-existence. God's existence could only be proven from the impossibility of the contrary. Your "atheism" is impossible since it can't account for anything. Just curious, how do you know you exist? "And in you having the burden of proof, there is no proof (at least none so far that I have seen. If there is evidence that I am not aware of please tell me in round 3)that YHWH exists, therefore the position stands that YHWH is not real until proven otherwise. " See above. "This argument proves that the universe has a cause, not that god was the cause. " What's your point? That's not my argument. "my problem with this is that it is not even an argument for god in my point of view. Because you need to believe the bible is true to accept this as an argument. " You're right. You need to regenerated by the holy spirit before you can obey God. But again this is not my argument. can god make a rock so big that he cannot lift it? Any rock God creates he can lift. His lifting power is unlimited. or can god commit suicide? There is no desire in God for death. "there are many other variations, but the logic behind this is if god can then how can he be all-powerful? if he can't then he wasn't all-powerful to begin with was he? " The problem here is that you don't understand what Christians mean by God's omnipotence. God is all-powerful. However, God cannot use his power to do it all. For example, God can't sin. This is not a defect in his characture but a virtue.