The Holocaust Gas Chambers were not used for execution

Response to Zyklon B and Killings Hydrogen Cyanide itself is extremely efficient at killing people. Zyklon B, however, is not. In the temperatures of the gas chambers, it would take Hydrogen Cyanide up to 30 to 40 minutes to release. As explained before, dropping it into the four vents into a damp gas chamber would initially reduce the effects of the Zyklon B. The cyanide gas, as I do not deny, can be harmful. However, it is harmful when it reaches concentrations of more than 100ppm, and can be lethal after 300ppm of lethal content would be released. According to DEGESCH officials, it takes up to 5 hours for 100% of the cyanide gas to be released under temperature conditions of -18 degrees celsius. This is contrary to many witness reports, who place these executions as taking only 2-30 minutes (under, as the opponent states, different conditions). Mainstream sources places them at 30 minutes max; however, even under normal temperature, for 100% of the lethal cyanide content to be released in temperatures of 15 degrees celsius, it would take up to two hours. Even with different perceptions of time, no one can state that the executions took either took five to 30 minutes; we have direct scientific evidence that suggests the contrary. Apart from this, there has been new evidence of the Gas Chambers being used for delousing purposes. Captured German War Archives stored in Moscow were recently uncovered and an examination of them found mentions of a delousing chamber (""Entlausungskammer für ein Krematorium") used by the Germans. However, they did not find any orders ordering for the Gas Chambers to be used to exterminate the Jews. They did not find Soviet Air Reconaissance photos on Auschwitz; they, however, even found orders that ordered SS members to treat the prisoners with care. Is this not direct evidence that Gas Chambers weren't used for mass scale executions? Circulation and a Response to Endangered Executioner Claims The opponent has cited a testimony from Henryk Tauber to support his claim. Firstly, I would like to rebut the technical concepts of the point that the opponent has presented first. My testimonial analysis shall be in my next section. A concrete cover is not sufficient protection to prevent the leakage of lethal HCN gas. This would be because of the design of the concrete orifice would have to fit perfectly, not allowing any air to escape. The inhabitants of the gas chambers would therefore die before any of the lethal gas, as explained before, came out, therefore denying them the ability to scream (as many witnesses have proven). Even if the concrete cover did prevent lethal cyanide from coming out of the chamber, the concrete used is still filled with lethal cyanide, which would make the concrete dangerous for anyone handling it. Apart from this, according to the opponent's testimonies (and official SS documents discovered), the doors and the seals were to be left open before and after the execution. This, unlike what the opponent has stated, can and would allow dampness to dominate the chamber. Apart from this, the material used to create the chamber would naturally absorb water, allowing the material there to be damp too. Apart from this, many gas chambers, unlike what the opponent has stated, did not follow conventional gas chamber making designs. A modern day inspection of each gas chambers would have stated so; not all gas chambers, especially the ones present at Auschwitz, Madjanek, and Birkenau, were built accordingly to the designs provided to them by DEGESCH, a German Chemical Company making delousing chambers which was given the task of designing gas chambers. More evidence suggests that DEGESCH equipment was used by the Germans in the gas chambers. This equipment was fumigation based equipment, and can no way be used to execute mass amounts of people. Response to Testimonial Claims Let us firstly look at the claims of Tauber. Henryk Tauber was a Jewish Pole who was drafted into the Sauderkommando Corps. The Sauderkommando Corps were Jewish Prisoners who were chosen because of their good health to operate these allegedly execution chambers. Tauber was brought to testify to Polish Court. The opponent has used his testimony to validate his many claims about the Holocaust. However, from a justice point of view, a testimony can, and would be effected by many things: 1. Emotional Connections/Biased A testimony usually has a lot of emotional biased. This is a perfect example; being a Jew, he would (understandbly) be in a state of anger, and biased usually comes from this. 2. Third Party Influence A testimony can be effected by third party influence; coercion, indoctrination and things to that sort. Third Party Influences can be a very important factor in giving a false confession. 3. Memory Problems Reliance usually declines after a few days only; after months, in which he would have been freed, accuracy is seriously put in doubt. Keeping this in mind, I would like to examine Tauber's case in detailed. Tauber's case was filled with contradictions, from both a scientific and historical point of view. Firstly, I would like to add that he operated crematories, and perhaps witnessed gassings perhaps once or twice, but could have definitely not have provided an accurate description without adding his own biased and misconception. In fact, members of his corps weren't allowed to come out of the crematories, for fear that they would spread typhus around, as typhus was the main factor in the deaths of many of the bodies they cremated. Tauber, during his testimony, stated that "when allied planes were approaching the camp, I would have hurled more bodies into the crematories to get the flames to come out." Firstly, it is a well-known facts that no flames did come out of any of the crematories. He then states that the crematories were able to cremate bodies in 8 minutes; even with today's technology, that seems highly unlikely. With the technology available during the Third Reich Era, that would be pure imagination. Therefore, we cannot cherry-pick our evidence from an inherently inconsistent source. Apart from this, the opponent states that Broad's and Hoess's testimonies are valid sources because both are reliable; however, I would like to repeat several facts that we know about both the Gas Chambers, Zyklon B and the sources themselves. Major Inconsistencies may be spotted in both testimonies; both relating to the time of the executions and the method of execution themselves. From a justice-based perspective, if the trial were actually trialed at neutral conditions, both testimonies would have been discarded for the inconsistencies they presented. Different perception in time cannot simply allow someone to take two hours and then completely revise it as two to 30 minutes; two hours is scientific data, supplied to us by people who supplied the chemicals to the Germans. Apart from this, how can the opponent be sure that the German guards didn't testify to save themselves from being transported and deported to the Soviet Union? After all, they did give inconsistent data on many things; the limits of the crematories, the number of Jews deported into camps, and the nationality of them are the same. Many arguments from mainstream historical sources rely on testimonies; yet no mass graves have ever been thoroughly investigated, and a neutral international forensic team never did investigate the sight of the mass executions. Each testimony was different by a significant portion; many of them were tortured or given false assurances that they would be safe if they "satisfied the court" Many of them knew that even if they did gave false testimonies, they would be deported to labor camps (in the USSR) or serve a term in prison. With this, I would like to conclude my arguments for this debate: Zyklon B is an inefficient killer As explained before, Zyklon B takes up to five hours (under freezing conditions) for 100% of the cyanide content to be released. It would have been inefficient to do so. The execution chambers would have had to kill people at such a fast pace that each execution should take around 15 minutes. Gas Execution chambers must be rubbed with ammonia before the next batch could come in, or else the execution chambers would be dangerous for the executioners who would have to empty the chambers. More Inclined for Fumigation Purposes With the usage of fumigation equipment and all, the chambers were more fitted for fumigation purposes as it is made out of material that absorbs the lethal content in. Zyklon B is also made mainly for fumigation, and would unfit the purpose of killing humans. Apart from this, the chambers were not airtight and not temperature controlled, unlike many execution chambers. A historical perspective would also prove that absurd; no Americans were consulted in building the gas chambers. Harm towards Executioner As the shortage of ammonia and the lack of protective equipment proved, the executioner might also receive some harm from disposing and carrying out the executions. Many protective measures have to be taken before the execution goes in place, and the execution chamber must be approached minutes after the execution. The crematories were also unable to keep up with the rapid pace of executions, and the designs of the execution chambers would have caused an explosion if they were used for executions, due to the fact that the gas chambers would have used the same heat source as the crematories if they were indeed used for executions. Citations: http://vho.org... http://www.vho.org... http://www.mchekc.org... http://vho.org.... Sources from previous rounds