Gay Marriage

"In Round 1, you focused mainly on the rights of homosexual people to marry. However, allowing gay marriage is effectively endorsing homosexuality, so I will dig a little deeper and see what's wrong with homosexuality" It's really not. With that logic, because it's Legal to protest against the president, the president an government encourages protests against him. Legalization is not the same as endorsement, thus rendering every single one of your statements in this debate false. "In 1994, Paul Cameron of the Family Research Institute co-wrote a paper titled "The Lifespan of homosexuals. " According to this paper, homosexuals live to an average 43 years, due to health problems. Before I continue, I would like to say that this paper has been heavily attacked by the Southern Poverty Law Center, as well as "unbiased" Wikipedia. They say that the research was unscientific, because Cameron's source was obituaries from gay magazines. However, I think that his sources were quite reliable. It was a magazine about gay people, written by gay people. Why would this magazine lie? Why would they paint themselves in a negative light like that? It makes no sense. One thing that would have to be examined here would be the number of gay people whose obituaries were used in Paul Cameron's research. If he studied 5 LGBT deaths, then the research would definitely be flawed. However, if he used 100 deaths or even 1000 deaths, then his research must be taken seriously. Unfortunately, I do not know how many gay deaths he examined, but I do not think he would release this research unless he studied many gay deaths. " 1. No source. 2. No correlation between gay marriage being legalized and the lives they live. 3. With this logic, because old people won't live much longer they are forbidden to marry. .. "Contention 2: It's all about how you're raised The Southern Poverty Law Center will deny that the way you were raised has any effect on sexual orientation, but they themselves said "a great many studies suggest that it is the result of biological and environmental forces. " Hold up! Environmental "forces? " (Factors) As in the environment you're brought up in? You see, effectively they are admitting (though at the same time they'd never admit it) that one's upbringing does have an effect on it. Methinks that if you're sexually abused on a child, it could have an effect on your "sexual orientation. "" I'll show a valid source showing why your sexuality has little if anything to do with the environment. .. I'm not sure at all where my opponent is getting his information. . http://www.sciencedaily.com... The source above explains that it is a thing you're born with, not something you develop over time. "Contention 3: Many child molesters are gay LGBT activists would protest this one more than any other conservative contention on this matter. They saw that most of the men who molest boys are heterosexual when it comes to adult women. I've got two things to say to this: A. You ever heard of a "beard? " Also, they may want children and a wife to do the cooking and cleaning. B. They may be bisexual with a twist. Bisexual is the "B" in LGBT. C. If you molest both boys and girls, then you're also bisexual" Um. .. Just because a large number of people who happen to be gay do tis doesn't mean it's the new social "Norm" for gays. This still doesn't erase the fact: Most child molesters are straight. .. "A man named "Paul Van de Ven et al" (strange name, I know) studied the sexual profiles of 2500 gay people and found that from 10 to 15 percent of them had from 500-1000 sexual partners in their lifetime, 10 to 15 percent of them had 1000+ partners in their lifetime, and that the average amount of sexual partners for gay people was 100-500. I don't know if this guy actually existed, but I found these statistics on multiple places throughout the internet. And if this research was conducted as it was, well, that would put to doubt all denial of homosexual promiscuity. The sexual history of 2500 LGBT people says a lot, doesn't it" 1. Pro has no idea whether this guy existed. 2. Pro has no sources to prove this study or any related studies are true. 3. A persons sex life doesn't have anything to do with laws. .. "If you legalize gay marriage, then you are encouraging the homosexual lifestyle,and all my contentions (backed up by studies) say that it's not exactly that great a thing to be gay. I look forward to my opponent's rebuttal" Yet again we have this message. It's not endorsing the gay lifestyle. With that logic, the Government encourages smoking cigars despite all the programs advising against it. Legalization/=Support for the lifestyle. Furthermore, there's not actually any correlation between the things my opponent has brought up and gay marriage. .. We could accept what he has said as absolute facts but he would still be holding an empty sack. His arguments can all be used against him, and with his logic we should throw away the entire concept of marriage. I'd also like to point out all his arguments have no sources to back them up.