The debate of God's notion of free will

Ok many points to make in this argument so to start from the beginning and work my way down 1.I"m out because this is just a God bashing and not a real debate! Check? " Check! OK? no this is not a god bashing i was raised like i said in a very southern baptist household and yes i personally view myself as agnostic i have no hatred or ill feelings towards a god i dont believe exist if my tone come across that way i will try to refrain from that tone 2. "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die." God condemned? Or Man Condemned? Does this scripture in any way imply predestined disobedience of Adam? Eve partook of the fruit first and then mislead Adam eve presented Adam with a choice and Adam had the free will to choice what at the time he thought was right even though it was in direct disobedience to god and his punishment was death and banishment from the garden pretty common story known by most but there are a few finer points in this story i would like to touch on 1st What happen to Adam and eve after they partook of the fruit a religious mans response would be that sin entered the world and they would be right but i pose the question "what did Satan give man when he convinced eve to eat the apple" And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. Genesis 3:7 KJV so to answer my question from "MY" interpretation Satan gave man critical thinking which was the first sin and so i pose a second question " Was Satan giving man critical thinking truly a bad thing" and finally i pose a 3rd question " what if Adam and eve never partook of the fruit and sin never entered the world" my answer is its impossible for sin not to enter the world god gave man 1 rule do not eat the fruit from that tree but that rule sealed mans fate how many times have you not thought about doing something but then when somebody tells you that you cant it motivates you to want to do it same rules apply here ( and on a side not I do not believe Satan lied he said partake of the fruit and you will be like god i think the ability to think critically is what separated us from god and with the abiltity to think criticly we would eventually come to not believe in him unless he made his prescience known) Now you made a very nice texting and driving analogy that him home my sister died from it but that makes this a little easier to explain i know what could happen if i text and drive i have seen what it can do and the pain and suffering it can cause I have NOT seen the consequences of the disobedience of god i have not felt the pain of absence from god for i have never known him i do not have all the information available about my actions and the ramifications of them before i make them besides an ancient text with no proff of validity So to be judged based on ignorance is... unethical (maybe not the best word but a better word doesn't come to mind) (opponent) if Jesus walked the earth and preformed miracles and did all the beautiful and wonderful things that bible said he did and through his teachings saved many souls from hell the people around him who saw his power would have no choice but to believe what this man spoke and would find following a worshiping him dare i say easy False: They killed Him". Didn"t they? 1. They- meaning the Jewish people of his time yes they did kill him because they feared him Pilate called together the chief priests, the rulers and the people, and said to them, "You brought me this man as one who was inciting the people to rebellion. I have examined him in your presence and have found no basis for your charges against him. Luke 23 13-14 KJV So to restate my point if those who witnessed Jesus miracles and didn't fear him were to worship him they would not find it much of a challenge Next you quote two very famous quotes from Romans and Matthew which alone are very beautiful and valid points but like I said i have never seen,taste,touch,smelt or heard god even with a baptist upbring i called for him with no answer and to touch on Romans "the good news" is very vague and one could argue that extends to a variety of subjects and/or religions now your next response will be it may not be gods time for you and i will respond with "well the bible says if i call the door will be opened" and i will quote you "As People can"t understand Gods plan lets put in terms Man CAN understand " sense only the Godly would understand" that line of thinking is what drives people such as myself away I reached out whole heartily and wanted to be accepted by god and yet i felt none of my love returned what would incline me to knock on a door that was not opened the first time Next you attack my notion of free will as being doing what you want when you want that is not the point i am trying to convay I believe for expample people are born gay i grew up with kids my age that i knew from an early age were diffent and later in life they came out as gay and lived happy lives should they be condemed for being who they were born to be another example i grew up eating chicken my whole life but in order to follow god Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat. Leviticus 11:3 now these examples are different in there severity but should a person be damned for being the person they were born to be or eating what they have been raised to eat i think judging somebody based on that is again ... unethical So what your actually saying outright IS you believe people should have the RIGHT to sin WITHOUT consequence or ill effect! - no that is so far from my point my point is simply if god is real and we accept for the sake of argument that the bible is 100 percent factual then it would require me to go against everything i have ever been taught in order to follow god and in that case no mamall would go against their entire nature in the CHANCE of a life after death Next you say If that's the case why NOT steal, lie, cheat, fornicate, be an adulterer, take without giving, sleep with any sex, kids or animals, why not rape, pillage, plunder. that's sin NOT free will! But there was free will to make those choices when i was born nobody had to tell me not to kill my mother i loved her and wouldn't hurt her the fact that you give all of our moral compass to god and religion is ignorant a person can have a sound moral compass without religion and to touch on your final point God? HE GIVES MAN A WAY of escape, COURSE you CAN FREELY refuse it ! can't you? if you are a 7 foot man and i give you a 2 inch door to go through and you cant bring yourself to do it because you didn't believe you could was it really a fair challenge and was it truly a way of escape i think not if god wanted people to truly love him and follow him he would make believing in his mere existence easier than it currently is I EAGERLY await your response