Probable existence of a natural God

I have to say, this is the first God debate I've been in for a long time that actually surprised me. Interesting concept. However, the one problem is the same problem with the supernatural God theories: evidence. While your progression of events makes logical sense (kinda, ill go into that later), there is much that you have to assume before you postulate such a far-fetched theory. Here is a brief list of things you have to know: -There is more than one dimension -There is other intelligent life in the universe -These creatures are very much like humans -They have the power to control the functions of the universe These are the basic premises you have to pretty much be sure of before you even start to convincingly approach such an idea. While there are theories concerning all of them, none are at all well supported. Next, here are some basic questions you would have to answer about this theory. 1.Why would these "God" creatures want to keep themselves hidden? 2. What is the point of subjecting us to pain? To learn? If their so advanced they can control the universe, don't they pretty much know everything? 3. Define "another dimension". 4. How do they effect things on earth without us noticing? Remember, you have to keep within the bounds of known science. Refutation: 1. "We know that it is very possible that there are separate dimensions. We do not know what the state of these dimensions are, that is to say we don't know how far or how little the universe has unfolded in each of these dimensions. If they are infinite it is not inconceivable that there is a race advanced enough to control the natural laws." Once again, the lack of any scientific support renders this rather pointless. There is a theory that there are separate dimensions. In other words, there is a chance. We don't know how it works, where it might be, or even whether it exists. You stretch this way too far to make any coherent sense. 2. "We also know that if you advanced technology enough it would be indistinguishable from magic for the uninformed user. Any one who was shown a microwave 1000 years ago would have claimed us to be sorcerers or magicians." This point is somewhat valid. However, in today's world, with very rational and cynical minds, there is little to nothing that we would take as magic. We have such an understanding of what is scientifically possible, and if this magical world is subject to the same rules, then nothing they could do would be taken as magic. 3. "Human nature is to create and improve. Families create babies. Politicians create legislation, that is aimed at improving the quality of life but is often impeded by stupidity or corruptness. Scientists advance technology. Doctors improve health. Artists create beauty." That's a another debate entirely. I wold argue that human nature is to survive and reach the top of the social hierarchy. Also, I'm not really sure what this point is attempting to prove. If it is showing that we as a race advance, then that is valid, although you really didn't need to make it so complicated. 4. God creates man. or Advanced more intelligent man creates something similar to man. Isn't that what we're debating? Points Against: 1. While this theory is certainly different than the God practiced in most religions today, one question that still needs to be answered is: how were these things created? Were they just naturally created? Is there a long line of civilizations leading down to us, the first of which came about naturally? If so, isn't is just as likely we were created naturally? There is no reason to assume there is a race or races above us created naturally, when we could have been created naturally just as plausibly. 2. Mapping the exact capability and behavior of super-advanced creatures like us in the future is impossible. What makes you so sure we would run out of things to do? If there are multiple dimensions and possibly endless space within all of existence, why would we run out of things to do? And couldn't we just play video games and watch TV like we did now? Why would creating a planet for other creatures to control be any better? Thinking you can understand technology and behavior of future, far more advanced humans is ridiculous. 3. You assume evolution is capable of more than it is. Remember, evolution has to stick to scientific principles as well. It may not be possible to extend creatures like ourselves' lives to the 200 years you suggest. Our brains may not be able to expand in order to create such advanced technology as would be required to make and control an alien world. In conclusion, you assume far too much, have no evidence besides some mostly unsupported theories, and fail to give any kind of detail besides a broad outline. This theory is just as unlikely as the God theories suggested by most religions.