Ultimate Team War III

"Yugi has separated the battle so that Wonder Woman and Superman can't get to Magneto." The linearity of events in this debate is going crazy. -Superman and Wonder Woman are FAST. They can get Magneto before Yugi separates the battle. -The Borg Cube can move at warp 21. It can get out of range of Magneto to buy time, or it can shoot Magneto and quickly leave. Magneto may control metal, but he is not immune to powerful phasers and photon torpedoes. The firepower of the Borg Cube is intense; Magneto would crumble under the wrath of the Cube. And remember, the Cube can move at warp 21. And if it's controlled by Durandal, Durandal is an AI so he has reflexes far faster than a mere mortal such as Magneto. He can warp out of there if necessary. "The Borg Cube, meanwhile, is stopped by Kuriboh" Impossible. -Only five Kuribohs can be summoned at a time. -The Cube can easily smash itself through a wall of Kuribohs, which does not kill any Kuribohs but it gets the Cube to the other side. "If Yugi were to start listening to Durandal, he could first summon the Dark Sage" -Durandal would convince Yugi not to. -Durandal could fool the Dark Sage. Dark Sage is limited by the human mental capacity; Durandal is not. "He could also use the Eye of Truth, which "knows all, see's all," to know Durandal's true intentions." -Durandal could convince Yugi not to. -If he somehow does anyway, Durandal could convince Yugi to listen to him anyway. He could convince Yugi that Durandal's intentions are more righteous than Yugi's. "Dark Magician can use Dark Magic Attack if Superman dared to come near. Superman isn't resistant to magic." True, but Superman is far faster than Dark Magician. Superman could kill the Magician before he knew what happened. If that somehow does not work, Superman can still dodge the attacks since he can move faster than light. "In Flamin' Head mode, Ganondorf isn't defeatable by sword." -What is Flamin' Head mode? I see no references to it on the Mario Wiki page [1]. -So there is no known (to me) way to defeat Ganondorf. This is a violation or rule 2. "Superman's heat rays would have to be more powerful than Obelisk's defense, period." -Superman's heat rays are not quantifiable in terms of ATK. They may be greater than 4700, considering how strong Superman really is. -Superman can shoot many heat rays within one "turn", dealing 4700 or more damage in a single attack phase. "How far can his heat rays go?" A hundred miles or so. "Yugi plays Makiu, the Magical Mist, which can put out your heat ray.' Makiu does not put out heat rays [2]. "My YouTube video (2:40) begs to differ." -The dialogue is in Japanese, which makes it difficult to properly analyze. -That's just the show. The official rules dictate that only five monsters may be in play at a time. "Kuribohs explode upon contact. This explosive force repels Superman backwards, and by the time he tries again, another one replaces it." The fastest they can possibly spawn is the speed of light. Superman flies faster than light, so he can get through. "Ganondorf could stall Superman with a barrier while Link transforms." Ganondorf would have to get the barrier up at faster than the speed of light. "He could also stall Superman with a cutscene in which Superman must stand and watch as the two of them transform." Superman does not watch cutscenes! "Link also can protect himself with his shield, which is impervious to projectiles and fire." Superman can attack Link from behind, above, below, or the side. "Then I'll just stick with the cutscene strategy." Superman has no reason to watch those cutscenes. He refuses to watch cutscenes, and he will kill Link in the middle of the cutscene if necessary. "Can Superman pull metal with more power than Magneto's magnetic field?" It doesn't matter: Superman can catch up to Link and then kill him. "Wonder Woman has been disabled" Really? How? "[Cable]'s still trying to deal with being pulled apart by magnetic fields." -Magneto is dead. -Magneto cannot deal with the Cube and with Cable. -I thought Magneto was in the Shadow Realm and Cable wasn't. "Cable is on the Earth-like planet." "Well, while Superman's away, he can't exactly attack anybody." He can zoom up to someone at 10 times the speed of light, punch the person, and zoom away. Repeat. "He only used enough Shadow Realm to cover himself, Magneto, and the Cube." Oh, so he can decide how much Shadow Realm he wants! If everything is that small, the Cube can just shoot some photon torpedoes, blowing up most everything (including Yugi and Magneto). Due to the hull strength of the Cube, it will be only damaged, and will quickly regenerate. "Magneto can use his magnetic powers to keep Durandal from accessing whatever parts of the Borg Cube he wants, which includes the Borg Queen." -Durandal could get inside the Queen's brain, which is not metallic. -Magneto and Yugi are already dead anyway, since the Cube fired the torpedoes as soon as they entered the Shadow Realm. "Well, how do they get the Queen into the new cube?" They copy Durandal into it. Durandal can control a Cube. "Then Magneto will erase Durandal from every piece of the Borg Cube." That will take a while, giving the Cube plenty of time to blow up Magneto. And I think it has enough firepower to get through Magneto's forcefields; this ship is an intergalactic death machine, responsible for conquering and assimilating hundreds of advanced civilizations. "I'll have Ganondorf and Link stall everybody outside of the Shadow Realm with a nice long cutscene until they're done with the Borg Cube and Durandal." My opponent means until the Cube blows up Yugi and Magneto, releasing them from the Shadow Realm, and then they proceed to kill Link and Ganondorf with superior firepower. "I'm going to stick with the cutscene." -There is no reason whatsoever why Superman would watch the cutscene. -Cutscene-watchingness was not listed as one of Link's powers. "They're in separate dimensions." Yeah, so Magneto can't help Metallo. "Link has the disc, because of Collected Power." Fine. I still kill him. "Yugi uses Collected Power to transfer Wonder Woman's equipment to Link, and then shrouds himself, Magneto, and the Borg Cube in the Shadow Realm." Then the Cube blows up Yugi, Link and Magneto. "Yugi uses Brain Control" Yugi is dead. "The rest of Team PRO cannot interfere until Ganondorf pulls off the final put-down" Why the heck not? My opponent's new strategy hinges on Yugi and Magneto, who have been killed by the Cube. -Yugi and Magneto are dead. -The rest of Team Con can be killed by the immense firepower of the Cube or the strength and skill of Superman/Wonder Woman. -Refer to my strategies from round one. VICTORY TO TEAM PRO! I find it funny that my victory hinges on killing Magneto, while my opponent's victory hinges on his crazy and nonsensical cutscene power. *** Thanks for the fun debate, Mongeese! [1] http://www.mariowiki.com... [2] http://yugioh.wikia.com...