The kingdom as prophesied in Dan 2:44 and heralded in Mark 1:15 and Matthew 4:17 has never appeared

Last Minute Rebuttals There was no time element. It was merely postponed. Colossians 1:13 is refering to the Kingdom of God, a spiritual Kingdom. Con REFUSED TO ANSWER my reasoning behind God being a lousy king right now of the earth. Con quotes, " And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. " Yes, and Jesus has given the power of this world to the Devil. Con said, "Best I can tell, if pro is correct, we have no kingdom of heaven now, no king now, no reign now. The statements of Daniel, Isaiah, John, and Jesus failed so far as the time element goes. We have to wait for pagan Rome, Roman emperors, Roman rule of the earth, then non-human life forms will breed with humans. Then the Jews will mass convert, somehow - without explanation. Then Jesus will sit over there in Palestine and rule for exactly 1,000 years. And that's a legitimate theological system? All it's good for is providing fodder and comedy relief for skeptics and infidels. " First off, Con says this is comedy relief for infidels and skeptics, but she doesn't consider all the scripture I've given to back this up. Second, The Jews will mass convert based on Hebrews 8:10-there is an explanation. Con said, "Good grief. You think that refers to a future tribulation? That passage wasn't written, technically, after the crucificion, and you know it. That passage is a quote from Jeremiah 31: 31-34, and, as Dr. Barnes says, "There can be no doubt that as it is used by Jeremiah it refers to the times of the gospel. " The passage from Jeremiah is used by the writer of Hebrews to picture the superiority of the gospel system of Christianity over the Jewish economy. " Hoe come Jeremiah couldn't prophesy of the future? We both believe the Bible is the Word of God. Don't you think God can foretell of future events? Con quotes, "And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. " (Rev 1: 6). Indeed, except John wrote Revelation of "things which are to come. " The verse is still future. My opponent misrepresents me. When I said, "It's just God's way of doing things" I was ANSWERING her statements about Christ knowing the Jews would reject him. Look at round 4 if you don't believe me. Con said, "I stated that "the time is fulfilled, the kingdom is at hand" and asked you WHAT was fulfilled? " It was the time for the Jews to accept Christ, it was the prper time, that's what was fulfilled. The rejection postponed the time to later. Con said, "Eph 3. I suppose you will eventually notice the passage when I have no opportunity to rebut. " Indeed, God KNEW the Jews would reject Him, and He KNEW that the Church would occur, BUT IT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL PLAN. Ephesians 3 is saying God knew that the Church would occur. "Well, but the events of Joel 2 WILL BE FULFILLED LITERALLY. " Con said, " Who said so? YOU? If so, the Apostle Peter was a little better prophesy-interpretter. He said, "THIS . .. THIS . .. THIS is THAT which was spoken by Joel". You give us a quibble about Yankees versus Dixie, and simply assert that Joel 2 has never been fulfilled at all. " Not me at all. You cant face facts. I gave the verses in Revelation. I refer you to round 4. Con said, "My denial is worth as much as your assertion. You HAD no reasoning. "People kill people; therefore, the reign of Christ is yet future. " <-- Is that it? " When Christ was here on earth, no one died hardly. He raised people from the dead, put an ear back on a man, performed miracles, cast out devils, etc. He DID GOOD ALL AROUND HIM. The fact that this World DOES SO MUCH EVIL contradicts all that Christ did here on earth. Satan is the king right now. Con said, "All it means it that God, the God of peace, will providentially subdue elements of contention or discord in the early church. See the word "shortly" in there? Of course, you think that word means 2,000+ years and counting, but it doesn't. " And you have no verse to substantiate your claim. Since God is outside time, "shortly" can be long for us, but short for God. "Further, that would have been the ideal moment for Jesus to tell his disciples that His kingdom was ONLY spiritual, and yet He didn't tell them that(Acts 1:7)" Con said, "He already HAD: "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. " And what do you say? You say His kingdom is MOST DEFINATELY of this world - right over there in Palestine, in Jerusalem, on the earthly throne of David, and His servants will fight battles. " The verse that you quoted has an interesting word in it. Notice the "now" in the verse. Jesus said," NOW is my kingdom not from hence" BUT IT WILL BE LATER. Acts 1:7 proves that, since it was written AFTER the Crucifixion. Con: Jesus: "I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. " Pro: "He accomplished the work of telling the Jews to accept Him as the Messiah. " Con said, "Umm . .. that's not all He came to do, was it? He came to establish a literal, earthly reign - and did not do it. Hence, you deny that He "finished the work that the Father gave Him to do. " He did a little of it, but certainly didn't finish it. There's no way to quibble out of that, either. Take note, atheists! " The Father DIDN'T SEND HIM TO DO THAT. John 3:16 says what He sent Him to do: to save sinners! The earthly kingdom was between the Jews and Jesus, it had NOTHING to do with God the Father. Con has failed to prove the Kingdom is a spiritual kingdom ONLY, and I have submitted the burden of proof that its earthly as well.