The Problem of Evil Disproves an All-Loving, All-Powerful God

1. I would like to quote pros point; "This line of argument seems very similar to the 'God works in mysterious ways' argument. I have earlier argued that we can prove that God can't have a bigger picture in mind through the process of elimination." I cede with the fact that we have debated this already, There is no further reason to badger the matter, the audience is then left up to decide the case. But to strengthen my point I will cite my points; "I admit that Pro holds a extremely valid point, But now I would like to ask Pro this, How well do you know god? Do you both go out on the weekend & have a few beers? My point I am trying to make is that no one knows gods true limitations. We have seen what he can do thus far, but we have not seen what he can't do. Who is to say that god could not have made a perfect earth? In fact he did when he had created the heavens, We are mortals, how are we to know what gods big picture is?" Pro repeatedly assumes that because our world is not perfect, god is not omnipotent. For Pro to be able to prove his theory he would need to prove to all of us that he knows god as well as his own son" Case in point all ending decisions will be purely based on faith of the individual. If Christianity was so easily proved by us, wouldn't we all be Christian or Anarchist? I would like the audience to base their decision upon the fact I have successfully repelled all of Pros reasoning as to why Christianity does not exist. And also be reminded that no one can actually prove based upon fact that God does or does not exist. 2. I would like to quote Chengste a user on Debate.Org who had posted in our comments section; "I have read several of your debates about evil and God, not once have you answered the most pressing question. What is evil? Until you do that how can you even argue this or some of your other debates?" Pro has stated what a philosophers definition of evil once was in round 4 but had never told us what he believed evil was. Pros definition of evil may include natural disasters, where mine is limited to organisms with a consciousness. I believe that a tornado has no conscious & no one can create the act. Therefore it is impossible to declare it being an act of evil. All though Pro may feel it is evil for God to allow such suffering within our world, he then would contradict his belief for the fact that he is admittedly believes God does not exist. 3. Pro & I have discussed the topic of free will within this debate. I am a firm believer that you can lead a horse to water but you can not make it drink. Regardless of the fact that I believe that a free will does exist, The con and those that believe otherwise will go about their beliefs. Just because our actions are based upon an outside influence does not mean we all do not have free wills. If I choose BK over McDonald's would be one example of a free will. 4. Point ceded providing some Biblical claims does not prove the rest of the Bible. Also proving a tornado is an act of evil does not prove that an omnipotent God does not exist. 5. I agree, this debate is not based upon the fact that the Bible does help peoples lives. But proving some of the stories with in the bible may not be accurate or may not exist at all does not prove what the Pro is trying to debate; "The Problem of Evil Disproves an All-Loving, All-Powerful God". 6. God only desires that the ones who believe in Jesus Christ (If debating about Roman Catholicism) are the ones that should receive eternal happiness. God had created us in such a way that he feels worthy for the fact that he gives us free will. Did you not choose to be an Anarchist over any other religion? God wants us to essentially own up to our sins, Another way of looking at it is this. A Judge gets presented with a case, He has all the facts before then but it is then up to him to make the decision. This does not prove that god is not an omnipotent in any sense. All military branches go through MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station) Which then decide if you are physically & mentally capable for the military. Once you take on the life of a recruit with in the USMC they then break you to build you back up. Any one that wants to achieve the title of a US Marine can. If your heart is set upon it and your willing to push yourself farther than you ever have then you too can become a US Marine. It comes down to if you believe that you can achieve anything you set out to do. 7. God does do things to fix this problem, they are called Missionaries. Missionaries go out to spread the word of god, I have yet to hear one person say that they have not run into a missionary within their lives. God again proves he is all loving be spreading the word. He also shows he is omnipotent for sending those that don't believe into hell & many of the other reasons discussed within this debate. 8. For the last point Pro says he is more inclined to believe Jesus existed than to have been able to have performed miracles. I cede to the fact that it is more believable to think he had existed. But in the end this doesn't prove that Jesus was not capable of performing miracles. ================ Conclusion ================ Further more Pro was unable to successfully prove that The Problem of Evil Disproves an All-Loving, All-Powerful God. Voters should be advised to vote not for what they believe, but vote on the quality of the argument. I would again like to thank the Pro for the chance to take this debate. I would also like to thank the voters, who have followed this debate. Thank you