God probably exists

Despite the many errors, in both punctuation and spelling, I am glad to see you made some original points. Unfortunately your points were incorrect and ill-informed, but none the less I hope you can find some mistakes I made in my arguments. Also, next time could you please fulfil your promises (you gave 7 of 5 arguments). I hope the voters do not hold your spelling and punctuation against you as I too understand what it is like to be reviewed on unedited work. Your argument 1: Upon my initial inspection I was pleased to see that you argued this point. I had never thought of, nor been faced with, this point. To be honest, at first, I thought it was a really good point. But when I took a closer look I saw the fundamental flaws that you presented. Firstly, humans are the most intelligent, known, life form that roams the earth. As we are intelligent beings we ask ourselves fundamental questions about our existence and how things work. For example, a long time ago, our ancestors believed that the earth was a flat plane and that you would topple off of the edge if you went too far. Before these people decided that, in their minds, it was flat they had to develop the question/idea. There was no true evidence to support these ideas (the horizon is flat). Research was done and it was finally decided, despite popular belief, that the earth had a curvature and is a sphere. However the people of the time would often refuse this idea, but over time the numbers dwindled to what should now be negligible. But I digress. As seen by this example we can see that a similar occurrence has happened with religion. We posed the question ‘Why are we here?’ and ‘ [volcano erupts] (can be substituted, like how you mentioned the gods gaps points) What did that?’. Well when there is not currently an explanation, those with faith say ‘God did it!’ and those with a scientific understanding say ‘Interesting, lets conduct research!’ Sure enough there is an answer with evidence over time. However, unlike the flat earth, religion poses that nasty factor of ‘don’t believe it, well you won’t have eternal life’ resulting in a fearful population who ‘want to save their asses’. Here is a quote directly from my argument that relates to this point. “Part 1: Many people, rightly so, ask themselves “What created the physical processes that allow life to exist? How were matter and energy created?" The answer to both of these claims are, we do not yet know. Now, when someone does not know the answer to something they care about they will search for the answer. However, we human beings are not currently developed enough to be able to answer this question. We must not come up with an instinctual response and say, ‘oh, a greater power must have done it’. No matter how much you believe that it does not make it true. Side Note… I always wanted to ask someone who believes in religion, what created god, why was he around at the time of creation? Part 2: It was also created to keep the masses happy and provide the monarchy with greater power. For all those people that lived long ago and had a very low quality of life what is the point of living it, why not overthrow the monarchy and live a better life? Well because the bible would forbid that, what a coincidence. For example look at the ‘divine right of kings’, it was created by a king and it basically says that the monarchy is the closest person to god, a sin against a king/queen is a sin against god.” Your Argument 2: Why would a loving and compassionate god create a world where he controls each and every one of his citizens and make some disobey him. When I make rules I stick to them and want others to stick to them. If I could I would have everyone abide by these rules. However the loving and compassionate god wants you to believe in him, however, he controls your mind to break these rules. Why not just give everyone eternal life now instead of make us wait and endure life with these pre-conceived views he established us with? This suggests that god is much like that of the devil. We were supposedly created in his image, so, why would we liberate homosexuals, alternative religious groups, non-Christians etc. Also, if that is not enough, your “simple test” is flawed. If I follow suit and follow the thinking behind the flawed experiment, I too could create a flawed experiment that contradicts your results. Follow the steps below: 1. Place your hand on a desk 2. Hold it still for 30 seconds 3. If your hand does not move you are not possessed with the mind control this biblical god is gifted with 4. This is evident as your brain controls your hand and your brain is not controlled by god See, it is senseless. But with time, we will most likely find an origin to the universe and if it is not god then we can deduce he is not using mind control. As displayed by your experiment, and qualified with mine, we can deduce that neither experiment is correct, thus neither proves a point. Your Argument 3: This is just a matter of evolution. Have a read of this argument that is one of my fundamental points, that I elaborated on. “Think about DNA for a second… No one encodes DNA, instead it was encoded by a process of natural selection acting upon random mutations. Millions of scientists have proved that this is true, furthermore, look at this letter that thousands of clergy men signed to show that they believe in this scientific evidence (https://en.wikipedia.org......). The odds of DNA forming are very high if you consider the huge number of evolutionary reiterations possible under huge number of environmental stressors. We were not created in god’s image by god, we were created as living creatures by the formation of DNA.” We can use the principle of evolution and early earth conditions to find it is most likely the process applied over a long period of time is what would allow us to come from a simple organism to what we are today. Sure a seed came from its parent tree, but where did the first of that tree come from, and in fact the first of that organic matter to create the many variations of that tree. Surly you will not go against your claim of not using ‘god of the gaps’ to argue against this point. We are properly nourished because of the ecosystems we were established in. Exactly, energy cannot be created NOR destroyed – as far as we know. Thus this source of creation you talk of could not possible as the deposits that the god you speak of had to be created as well. Your Argument 4: This statement is incorrect. No matter how many people believe in something does not make it real. Look at all of these types of Christian denominations. There are too many to write here (https://en.wikipedia.org...)(This Christian site tells us there are 30,000 to 40,000 denominations of Christianity worldwide https://theway21stcentury.wordpress.com...). This graph, and many others show that the Protestants are losing numbers, Catholics are fairly consistent and atheism is growing (http://www.pewforum.org...). Does that not disprove your argument? Your Argument 5: The order you talk of is concerning, I am not completely sure what you mean but if I correlate it with patterns I think I understand. Well yes, this pattern and order you talk of is called evidence. When something happens consistently it is evidence. For example Einstein in his almighty wisdom put ford the idea of relativity publicly in 1905. Few people believed him until it was proven in 1919. His equations would consistently (not once did his predictions fail) predict exactly how the system would function. This very method is what is used to correct the clocks of the satellites in earth’s orbit (they experience time slower). Lastly, you are right there is too much chaos in this oh so perfect world that god had given to us. Is it not in the devils presence that people suffer in?