Obelisk would defeat Slifer in a battle

Now, to finish this! 1. Power No, we have not agreed that Slifer has 50000 ATK. We've agreed that that is Slifer's potential, as stated in Round 1 and only Round 1. If we're debating by potentials, then Obelisk would clearly win, as its potential ATK is much higher than any multiple of 1000 that Slifer could achieve. My opponent claims that Reckless Greed and Pot of Greed increase Slifer's ATK by 4000, but the playing of each card decreases Slifer's ATK by 2000, making the net gain 2000 ATK for two cards. Obelisk, however, can match this with two Axes of Despair, reaching the exact same bonus for the same number of cards. My opponent claims that Obelisk cannot be used in a Duel, even though he's cited duels in which Kaiba played Obelisk rather successfully, and to great and terrifying effect. If my opponent means the Obelisk card in the real-life Trading Card Game, then he should have qualified this in Round 1. Additionally, citing anime evidence clearly indicates that we were talking about the anime the entire time. My opponent claims that there is now a "legal" Slifer card, but none actually exists, only the current "original" one [1]. If there were a "legal" Slifer, it would probably mirror the effects of the "legal" Egyptian God cards, and those cards, unlike their anime counterparts, are not immune to Obelisk's second variant of Soul Energy Max at all, as the effect is not a targetting effect. Obelisk would be able to destroy Slifer regardless of its ATK. My opponent claims that an Anti-Meta deck can prevent Special Summoning, but again, he provides no specific cards for me to provide counters for, so this point is null. He then claims that if Slifer is summoned before Obelisk, both will be destroyed, even though I've already explained how Obelisk can destroy Slifer without any collateral damage the instant either one declares an attack on the other. 2. Summoning and Battles Note that even though my opponent claims that he was talking about the "original" Obelisk, he now continues to discuss the anime Obelisk. This shows how flawed his argument really is, a last-ditch effort without My opponent claims that the spirit of the Millennium Puzzle was the one dueling, not Yugi. This is false; the two of them worked as a team, fusing their minds together while dueling, and make internal decisions. Note how Yami Yugi talks with Yami's voice but thinks with Yugi's; this is the result of their minds fusing together. The spirit's thoughts shift to his own voice whenever he isn't with Yugi. Together, they earned the title of King of Games, and together, they defeated Kaiba. Yugi then proved more able than Yami Yugi by defeating him separately in a duel, but that's actually irrelevant to the current debate. My opponent goes on that because Slifer and Obelisk defeated each other (which doesn't contradict the resolution at all), they are equal. However, this is a non sequitor. Neo-Spacian Glow Moss destroyed the Winged Dragon of Ra in one duel [2], but this doesn't mean that Glow Moss is superior to Ra at all. It's just a result of the card-playing skill of the duelists themselves. My opponent continues that Kaiba is "actually a pretty good duelist," but he is still inferior to Yugi, as I have pointed out repeatedly. He adds that Kaiba won Obelisk the Tormentor, but Ishizu actually gave it to him [3]; Kaiba never actually defeated an Egyptian God card without one of his own, and even with one, he eventually lost the duel. My opponent finally concedes that "Obelisk defeated Slifer and that Slifer managed to destroy Obelisk," claiming that this makes the two of them equal. Even though he already concedes the debate in this sentence, I still maintain that Obelisk is superior to Slifer, and have already explained why his current reasoning is flawed. ===> Conclusion My opponent has no contentions left to play; with an empty hand, Slifer is left powerless on the field. Obelisk, meanwhile, grabs two powerful contentions that support his strength and use them to activate Soul Energy Max, absorbing their power to grant him infinite strength. In a final crushing blow, Obelisk the Tormentor destroys and defeats Slifer the Sky Dragon, ending the battle, the Duel, and the debate. Thank you, ethopia, for this great debate, and good luck in future debates. Thank you, voters, for reading this debate. [1] . http://yugioh.wikia.com... [2] . http://yugioh.wikia.com... [3] . http://yugioh.wikia.com...