The Existence of The Christian God

Thank you for that response Pro, I will wrap up my debate. “No, I don't think the corruption of the world is perfect. I am saying that God giving man free-will is the best possible thing God could have done, since God is perfect. ” First of all; where is your evidence that God is perfect? Secondly, the very idea that God gave man free-will is completely stupid. If a God exists at all, then it is impossible for anything to have free-will. A god is omniscient, knows past, present, future. Since God knows what happens in the future, it is fixed; you cannot change it, no free-will. So the idea that God gives you free-will, is completely idiotic. “we are creative and intelligent as God is” God is all-knowing, means he knows everything. Assuming you do not know everything then you are not as intelligent as God. An intelligent person can probably tell that this sentence is idiotic. Moving on… “God created everything in the best way possible,” This is completely wrong. What about cancer in children that takes thousands of innocent children’s lives, that was God’s perfect design. What about the millions of innocent families that are swept apart because of tsunamis, that was God’s perfect design too. What about ALS, a horrible disease that slowly paralyzes the innocent victim leaving him/her, trapped within their mind without escape except death? Thank God for his perfect design. If God exists, then he will have to beg for my forgiveness. “It is not like a marrired bachelor, it is simple logic. God can do anything, therefore God can know what sin feels like without sinning. Thus your argument is invalid. ” Yes it is like a married bachelor. If God was omnipotent, then he can do anything, anything includes being a married bachelor. Being a married bachelor is impossible as you know, therefore omnipotence is impossible, and God cannot exist. Saying that you can know what sin is like without sinning is idiotic. It’s like saying that you can know what it’s like to see, without ever seeing. It’s impossible, I’m not sure how you don’t understand that being a married bachelor is impossible. I just don’t understand why you keep denying the stupidest things. “The Universe is bound by time. God created the Universe. Therefore, God is not bound by time (Thus meaning he lives outside of it). Since God is not bound by time, and is omnipresent, he is everywhere, at every time period, all the time. ” Ok, I directly ask you for evidence: “Where’s your evidence that God created time. Or that he lives outside it? ” And you provide no evidence. Where’s your evidence that God created the universe? Where’s the evidence that God is not bound by time? Where’s your evidence that he lives outside it? Where’s your evidence that God is everywhere? Do not make all these claims without any evidence or they have no value at all. You will lose this debate if you continue to evade honest questions. “You asked for the proof that God exists outside of the bounds of logic: The Universe is bound by the rules of logic. God created the Universe. Therefore, God is not bound by the rules of logic. ” This is just pathetic. You say you will provide proof of your claims, I read the proof, and it’s just more wild claims not backed by any evidence. Where’s the evidence that God created the universe? Where’s your evidence that God is not bound by the rules of logic? “I was explanation why the eternal, unchangeable, immaterial, omnipotent cause of the Universe must be a personal being. God is defined as an eternal, unchangeble, immaterial, omnipotent cause of the Universe, and the cause of the Universe must have those attributes, therefore, God exists. ” Why must the creator of the universe have these traits, provide evidence. “If I put what all the links said in text, it would go past the word limit: So links were needed. They are the exact same arguments either way. ” If you run out of room, then you run out of room for your arguments and you can only post as many arguments as fit. It would be unfair if I came and posted 100 links to different arguments that I did not create myself and say, “Here, read all these because I can’t type them out myself. ” I’m debating you, not your links. Understand how a debate works before you do one. “An omnipotent being can do ANYTHING. These things are included in ANYTHING: Being a married bachelor, and a Theist Atheist. These things are not impossible to do for a being that can do ANYTHING. Therefore, omnipotence is possible. Therefore, an omnipotent being can exist. ” I think any intelligent person would realize how idiotic this is and that it just makes my opponent look like a fool. “If Con cannot refute my points properly, he will lose. ” My opponent then ends his argument properly with a threat. Says the one that cheated and posted his rebuttals in a quite improperly manner. Arguments: I will make my arguments short for this debate is so one-sided. At the point of the Big Bang, all of the matter of the universe was in one spot. In this one spot was the entire universe, all of time, energy and space was bound in one spot. Therefore there was no time outside of the universe. God did not create the universe for there is no time outside of the universe, therefore he did not have any time to create it. Conclusion: This has been a boring debate and it is time to get it over with. My opponent has obviously cheated and given himself an unfair advantage over me in the entire debate. This will obviously be penalized in the voting section greatly. My opponent has also obviously made the most grammatical errors, making him penalized again in the voting section. Those are the only two obvious indicators that I will win on. I believe that I have had the better arguments based on evidence and truth while my opponents arguments are based on claims or just links to websites that argue for him. As far as citations, I honestly did not use any other sites, I just used my Bible on my Nook as a resource that was obvious in my arguments and does not need a citation. The only other area of voting is civility which should probably be used for the penalizing of my opponents cheating.