America should not take more extreme measures to win wars.

i never agreed with you, you misread what i had said. it seems that you think iraq and iran attacked us. which is incorrect. Iraq did NOT attack the US. a terrorist organization did. basically you are taking your anger out on them because they live in the same region. we were not retaliating to the attack on the towers. we were going in there for a few different reasons. 1: it was believed that Iraq had WMD (weapons of mass distruction) when they were not supposed to. we invaded to get those weapons away from a mad man. (and i do consider him a mad man, anyone who commits mass murder is insane in my opinion) 2: when it turned out that we didnt find any, we shifted the reason of being there to mainly freeing iraq from his rule. agian, these 2 things had nothing to do with the attacks on america by the terrorists. the only thing that the attack DID do, was that it made americans patriotic for a period. the government used this chance to declare war when they knew the public would be least likely to agrue agianst it. 3: the reason for invading other countries was to hunt down the terrorist organization that attacked us. this is what we call the war on terrorism. agian, civilians do not plant bombs. civilians dont kill innocent people. thos who do are no longer civilians and are considered terrorists. your point about the lions doesnt work here. because these situations are vastly different to that. if your surrounded by 10 lines and they are all staring at you, there is a fair chance they will attack you. but that is ONLY because you are a food source to them. humans are far more complex in how they act. If i die because i chose not to kill a civilian whom has nothing to do with this war, then so be it. i refuse to sink as low as those we chose to say are evil and the ones whom are wrong. basically what you state in the second paragraph is that actions of others should be held accountable for all. with that in mind, one of you friends friends firends friends friend, attacked me. im gonna attack you for it. does this seem fair to you? yes civilians should not be held accountable for the actions of their government. BUT only to a certain degree. if i choose to disagree with the government thats my choice, America is NOT a country of follow or get out. that is a dictatorship. America is a country where if you dont like it then speak the hell up. that is exactly the ideals that america was founded on! also this country is founded on the idea of everyone is equal. you say not to go agianst the government yet here you are argueing agianst them. the government is saying we need to humanize our enemies, and your saying no they dont. seems kinda contradictory doesnt it? the creation of the first soldiers was for the very reason of protection. to protect what you had agianst other forces. only later did it become an attack force as well. (granted not much later) also your statement of the kinder gardner doesnt fit here. you wouldnt kill the guy whom picks on your sister would you? there is a fine line that must not be crossed. telling the guy to back off is fine. killing the guy... not so much. killing the guy with a gun shooting at you, thats fine. killing the group of people searching for food because they "might" have a bomb on them. not so much. but lets continue on with the "might" logic for a second. that person "might" have a bomb straped to them, so lets kill them. that group "might" be apart of a terrorist organization. lets kill them aswell. these other civilians "might" get in the way and cause problems. lets wipe them out as well. any person in iraq "might" be hostile. lets just nuke iraq. russia "might" launch back nukes, because they detected our launch... so lets nuke them as well. iran "might" retaliate so lets nuke them. oh you "might" be a spy. lets execute you and your family. ok now whats left... oh the world was blown up 5 minutes ago due to us not caring anymore. whooops :P do you see how we cant just go off of "might"? i mean why even send out our soldiers if all we are going to do is slaughter them all? shouldnt we instead nuke them and begin world war 3, with america as the prime bad guy? doesnt seem too smart. you seem to think that america is invincable or cannot be invaded. that is untrue. its just dificult to do so. those other countries such as mexico, wouldnt be able to do much if russia decided to use their land to invade us. neither could canada for that matter. we would step in, but it doesnt mean we would win. "DUH everything is caused by actions, that is like saying "teen pregnancy, oh May gosh we just shouldn't have sex anymore" or "we shouldn't have sex ed anymore." How the heck did you get from not having extreme measures to dictatorship??? For those who protest the war, they aren't enemy, why would we kill them? for the soldiers, if our lives are at stake yea we should apprehend them at least." i have no idea what you are refering to in the above paragaph for the most part. extreme measures are what dictatorships do. they dont care what happens, the only reason they get away with it is because if anyone in their country disagrees, they are killed. america cannot do such actions. the citizens of the us will not stand for something like that to occur. nore would most in the government or the rest of the world for that matter. the only way for america to go to more extreme measures is to become a dictatorship. and kill anyone whom opposes them. for the soldiers, if our lives are at stake yea we should apprehend them at least." but you stated several times that they should just be killed. you are contradicting yourself agian. apprehending potenially dangerous people is what we do now. that is not an extreme measure.