Society is Getting Worse

I will answer her individual questions in a very general way, because most times, and this is only me, I like to actually debate the topic at hand (In this case I am defending why Society is getting Better) rather than waste my time pointing out and exaggerating format. This method of mine is known to some as "Staying on Topic". But now to her questions (these are the ones where she usually starts off by saying "I would really like to know..." or "please explain") Every, and I mean every argument I have given has been to prove my case. Society is getting better, and had to get better from something. The points I brought up, from slavery to colonial houses, were all to exemplify this. You'll notice that every time I somehow included all the larger concepts of your information into my arguments (even if some minor ones are not specifically pointed out for space), where as you have completely disregarded mine in every case (except that small slavery excerpt in round 2). What you've given me are all minor cases of bad occurrences in modern history, all of which I have given examples to show that they are not signs of societies crumbling, but in comparison to events in our past, are signs we've drastically improved, and thus, are getting better. Your examples are indeed, low points of today, but you haven't, as of yet, given one reason why it shows we are worse. Worse to what? Now we are buying toys made in China, all of which we've quickly recalled, rather than the lead based paint that our own society made and released? We have to recall a small fraction of the pet food that is given out, compared to the times when raw meat was given to dogs, without any kind of safety inspection? Rather than whipping the backs of slaves, we are just concerned about rudeness? I'll address them all specifically in a minute, but up to now, you have given NO evidence on how this society is GETTING worse, only that we are having troubles, like every single other society that has EVER been in existence. All of my links are direct evidence to further exemplify my points. You implied that contrary to you, I've given no evidence of my historical facts, and there they are (my 5 links). I don't need to draw a road map to how to how it relates, as I explain everything in my rebuttals. The links are there so you can compare the accuracy of what I am saying to sites that do specifically address those topics in detail. This is what I meant by the textbook. All my information should be general knowledge; your 'contemporary info isn't in textbooks' speech is merely skewing my words. The quantity of my links is irrelevant in comparison to the quality. I gave information, all of which is sufficient to not only back up what I am saying, but to disprove yours as well. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, but there is a strict background check on all new information. It is credible. Now then, if I am finished wasting 3000 unnecessary characters defending MYSELF, I will defend my POSITION. 1) Rudeness - Again, actorgurl is only attacking the relevance of my information, which as I've just shown is valid. Your rudeness statistic is invalid for the same reason that I explained in round 2, because peoples opinions are subjective, where as my information is objective. They can think today's rudeness is a problem, but slavery actually was. Slavery was rude in every respect, and far worse than what rude is considered to be today. Therefore, rudeness has gotten better. Society is better on that insignificant front. My link provides hard evidence that slavery existed, and what they had to go through. It may have been a part of life, but that does not mean it was right. It was a terrible thing, as you yourself admitted, and is far worse than anything you or a few people on the street may consider to rudeness today. 2) The men I gave example to did stupid things. You don't think the conscious slaughter of hundreds might mean that maybe these people are lacking a little "keenness of mind"? Anything they did was far more harmful to society than a woman spilling coffee in her car. As for legal proceedings, as I already stated, we now have more freedom and access to the law than ever before. We can find justice, even if you don't personally agree with it, in practically any sense. At least with coffee lady, and testicle man, hundreds of people didn't die; the worse thing that happened was now there are safety labels on things that previously didn't. So, we've gone from mass human slaughter to 'warning: hot liquid inside'. I'll let the audience decide which society was worse. 3)http://www.msnbc.msn.com... There's your story on the Chinese manger that killed himself. Now you can educate your friends. This shows they realize the repercussions. They know that if something is found to be dangerous that there are consequences. What logic would they have to WANT this? If there is a toy recall it is just as much news to us as the concerned mother and pet owner at home, except while all we have to do is make a return, they have fines, lawsuits, and invoices. Nobody wants that. And again I must point out that at least we catch them, and like I said above, our own country let these kind of things go on under our noses. But now, everything is much safer. If they really didn't care do you think they'd release a recall list at all? The fact that they do, and make public announcements about it is a clear sign they care. Also, your personal feelings about our trade with China are irrelevant t the topic at hand. In this argument, along with the above two, you did not further try to advance our position, only pointed out ways my evidence might lack merit, to which I've given enough reason and logic to show that it doesn't. Therefore, you've dropped your own case, and mine about cars. So were he had our own country letting us use lead based paints, drive seat belt-less cars, and eat un-inspected food, whether pet or human, to a day where we have strenuous medical and safety tests, and public recalls of any item that MIGHT be a threat. On this issue, our society is definitely getting far better. 4) The evidence you gave only says 'gas prices are raising'. I could deduce that when I go to fill up my car. But nowhere does it say it causes homelessness. This entire issue of yours has been made null by your own lack of hard evidence (sound familiar?). You wanted me to say how we can afford other methods of fuel? I ask how can we not? These higher gas prices encourage the study of cleaner, safer, less expensive alternate fuels. Where once we could buy cheap, smog inducing, green house gas causing oil, now we are trying to find a better method than even that. Those are undeniable signs that our society is getting better. 5) My link on colonial houses and education were given to show that what I say is not mere subjective banter but fact. They both, in fact all of them, show that when in comparison to today's world, we are much better off than what they had. Living conditions have improved greatly. Education now dwarfs that of the past. Housing is much better than the past, thus society has gotten better here as well. Now judge and jury, look up. Re-read her last few arguments. Then mine. I have addressed all her points and added to my argument. She's only complained, for lack of a better word. I hate needing to do this, frankly it disgusts me, but I feel it necessary so you are not misguided. She's not given any reasoning to really contest my points, only tried to debunk their validity. She's dropped both her and my arguments just so she can make me, not my premise, look bad. The numbers of links don't matter. The evidence behind them does. My links, facts, evidence, and examples all maintain their validity, and thus my argument that I've more than proven, being that society is, in all 5 respects and more, getting better. Darth_Grievous_42 out.