Christianity is the Right Religion Part 1

This time I'll make it even more clear problems with Pro's arguments. Writes James Orr, The Bible is not "a miscellany of disjointed pieces. , Out of which it is impossible to extract any order, Progress or arrangement. "Argument of authority. I am having a debate with you not authority figures that you quote. This argument is still not right if I accept it as your argument. Reason is Saudi Arabia is an example of an ordered Monarchy. Another example is Israel which is also an ordered Monarchy. Two examples is enough to state no Christianity is not the only Religion that can make an ordered society. "is not a collection of fragments, But has. . . An organic character. "Is this a figure of speech? If organic you mean a telling of Jesus. Well the Torah is the telling of Jewish people and the Koran is the telling of Muslim people. It is organic if I take you literally. If not literally then am I supposed to know the figure of speech? Another argument from authority. "from beginning to end; we see something growing before our eyes; there is a plan, Purpose, Progress; the end folds back on the beginning, And, When the whole is finished, We feel that here again, As in the primal creation, God has finished all his works, And behold, They are very good. "I don't see how this is valid. Saudi and Israel have made ordered societies with their Religion. Israel planned to take Palestine. Their purpose is to reclaim their holy land. The progress is they are waiting for something to happen in Jerusalem. Something Religious which is why they took the land in the first place. They are not very good by the way. People are born with birth defects, Genetic disabilities, Cancer. If it was very good why are humans so bad? Another argument from authority. It's worth noting that God didn't just speak the Bible through His human agents; He choreographed world events that would make their way into the Testaments. He's not a divine historian, He's the History Maker, The divine author of Life who created us, Made us a part of His story and superintends history from its beginning to its triumphant conclusion. Many biblical stories weren't history when they were written; they were prophecies that became history after they came true. Of course, The Bible doesn't purport to be a comprehensive history, Only a salvation history-a history concerning the grand sweep of man's redemption and salvation. Burden of proof. I guess Pro would point to the Bible which I say to that circular logic. This is still not an argument since all I can see is preaching. No claim was made apart from God didn't just write the Bible God also choreographed it. You still have not given me evidence for the Bible yet you have moved passed that point as if you have rebutted. It is also much more than a book of salvation history. It is a special message from God to us revealing Who He is and His desire that we have a relationship with Him. It is a manual for how we should acquire wisdom, Live moral lives, And love God and one another above all. That is your opinion. God never specifically said what the Bible was apart from the word of God. By you saying it is a book of salvation is an assumption with no evidence. Special message can be counted as the word of God. This was mainly making the same point just extended using different words. I rebutted one claim and the others are just extended of the claim you already made. But much of the Bible's life instruction is presented in the context of orderly historical events, Including David's cries to God in the Psalms, Solomon's wisdom in Proverbs, And Jesus' teachings in the gospels. We learn God's teaching in the historical context of the lives of others, Especially the nation of Israel, And in our own lives as we interact with Him through prayer and through reading, Studying, And meditating on His Word. A claim with no evidence or explanation. If it was ordered into historical events surely you can point to an example. It is breathtaking to contemplate God's majesty in arranging events to play out exactly as He prescribed, In His sovereignty, Yet preserving our free will. It is awe-inspiring to consider that He tells our redemptive story, Teaches us about His nature, Shows us how to approach Him, And instructs us how to live, Through so many different people in so many different times and in so many different cultures and environments. Again a claim with no evidence or explanation. Paul and other New Testament writers do seem to be aware of the unity of their message. This, In turn, Should enhance our appreciation for the organic unity of the Bible as a whole. For example, Paul tells the Ephesian church elders, "I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole [purpose] of God" (Acts 20:27). "By whole purpose of God, " says Daniel Fuller, Paul means that he has taught God's entire message. "Since Paul summarized his message as the whole purpose of God, It is clear that he regarded it as a unity. "Seem is not fact therefore another assumption. At least you tried to give evidence this time. I said no circular logic so I do not consider it evidence if you haven't told me why it is evidence. Claim was an assumption. Evidence is circular. Explanation is an argument from authority. This can also be used up until when you say Next we will see the unity of the Testaments. since the same arguments were made but just in a different context. The Judaism of today is not the same as that of the Old Testament. The Old Testament pointed to Jesus, Which the Jews reject. They base their salvation in their works (which goes against Old Testament teaching) instead of a blood sacrifice by a spotless lamb. From what I see Jewish people have stuck the Old Testament whereas Christianity has created the New Testament. Judaism is still following the Old Testament whereas Christianity is following the new one. Does seem like Christianity has betrayed the Old Testament by following the new one. The Quran says that the books of Moses, The Psalms, And the gospel were all given by God. Torah - "We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers, " (Sura 2:87). 1Psalms - "We have sent thee inspiration, As We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, To Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, And Solomon, And to David We gave the Psalms, " (4:163). Gospel - "It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), In truth, The Book, Confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, As a guide to mankind, And He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong), " (3:3). Also, "And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, Confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, And confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah, " (5:46). If I don't accept circular logic from Christianity. Why would I accept it from other Religions? Why? Because you cannot defend it. Oh, I don't need to defend it because they are both wrong, I just don't have the space to talk about it, But I promise you, Once we finish with the Bible we will get into it. So am I supposed to believe you on faith? They are both wrong is not an argument. You have not made a claim, Provided evidence and explained it which means you are wrong. You had the space to add many arguments from authority, Circular logic and assumptions? The Bible is not indestructible. Then why is it still around? indestructible: not able to be destroyed. (Google: Indestructible define)The question is not why how, Because when the Bible does get destroyed Christians make new ones. The Bible is not indestructible Christians make news one when they are destroyed. When the Bible is created again it does not mean it is indestructible. By that logic a bomb is indestructible. Bombers can make news one to replace the destroyed bombs. See how bad your logic is? Praying mantis has not the same level of intelligence and still punishes them. That is not fair since you do say your God is just. Your God is not just with praying mantises. Sin entered and mantises should be punished? That is not fair so that goes against a just God and merciful. The problem isn't God, God made everything perfect. Man is the one who brought sin into the world because of his pride in wanting to be like God. The problem isn't God even though God created humans. God is all-knowing so God knew they would bring sin. God is all-loving even though God allows male praying mantises to be eaten by the female. By that logic a human is all-loving. A human watches by while a great ape eats its own kind. That example if ever happened by your logic humans are also all-loving. By your logic of God being perfect humans are also perfect. Even though humans knew full well testing on animals would result in bad effects on the animal. Humans are still perfect. https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=al-f_WWoHI4Basically nothing that you said states that Christianity is the right religion. I don't see why you didn't forfeit since the same thing would have happened. You giving no point point instead gave me filler. I know you just want short answers, But Christianity is too deep to explain in a few sentences. I am not giving filler. You are missing what I am talking about. : the unity of the Bible. No book in the world has the unity of message as the Bible. Maybe you should reread. Christianity is not deep. You are making it lengthy. If something takes too long to explains odds are it is wrong. Unity? Middle East is unified with Islam. Israel is unified with the Torah. India is unified with Hinduism. Islam is more unified in Saudi Arabia than Christianity in the United States. Almost every single person in Saudi is a Muslim whereas in the United States it isn't. Doesn't matter about the unity message if practically it doesn't unify.