Black Lives Matter Movement/Protests

The history of black oppression has nothing to do with the statistical margin of black crime in the united states. I would like to see a source linking slavery/oppression prior to 1970 that correlates with current crime rates. http://theinjusticefile.blogspot.com... Claiming poverty correlates to crime is simply untrue. "According to Census figures in 2013, 18.9 million whites are poor. That"s 8 million more poor white people than poor black people, and more than 5 million more than those who identify as Latino. A majority of those benefiting from programs like food stamps and Medicaid are white, too." Yet again whites make up a significantly higher portion of the population than blacks and yet are considerably lower in chances of committing a crime than blacks. Yet there are more than 8 million more whites in poverty than blacks. http://www.theroot.com... http://www.breitbart.com... "DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, black people committed 52% of homicides." compared to the current black population and adjusting for migration/population you can see that the rate at which homicides are commiting in the early to late 2000's is around 50%. In 1960 black homicide rate in urban areas was still around 50% http://theinjusticefile.blogspot.com... Therefore the previous history of black crime in the U.S. has not changed drastically. I think we can all agree here blacks are treated much more fairly in the U.S. Me being black myself I have actually received special treatment in education. My friend and I attended a college course in European History. We had different teachers and performed the same project to prove that affirmitive action is unfair and needs to be repealed. I got a B+ On my project. He got a B- Both projects were exactly the same because we would talk over voice chat what we were going to put down. Moving onto the main priority of the debate. ---Year 1960 Rapes:: 52% Black Robbery:: 56% Black Murder:: 56% Black--- Blacks in 2015 made up almost 50% of the homicides in America in 2015 yet make up 14.5% of the entire population. https://www.fbi.gov... If you would have read my sources and read my entire post, the pro would have noticed such statistics and still has yet to refute this point. Giving me a history lesson in racism during oppressive moments to africans provides no such evidence that those born today "millenials" are effected severely because of past oppression and poverty. As a black person and Obamas implementation of affirmitive action there are many opportunities for black to aquire a college degree. http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com... It is illegal in the U.S. to deny that of a different race than white admission. If such case happens, the applicant can sue the college and will win with proper evidence. This is beside the point of the debate. This debate is meant to recognize the actions of BLM and why they don't recognize black on black crime as a more severe threat than the small percentage of hate crimes committed. ------------ I highly suggest you watch this video as it runs over some of the statistics I have made and much more. It's only 9 minutes. ------------- Pro: "you have to remember that is based on what the officer said in his report and after murdering a civilian an officers report doesn't always reflect what actually happened." "As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black" https://www.washingtonpost.com... So you are telling me that of all 381 blacks killed. (Most likely a few more than that) Every single cop was either in the error or gave a false story? Even assuming half of those deaths is absolutely ridiculous. Black crime rate is much higher on a population scale than whites. Yet again proved by my sources. Police Officers are likely to meet multiple black criminals a day. Yet again, assuming that most of the cases that police officers make as a testimony are false is completely absurd as you're using not only biased opinion but un-proven statistics. I would like to see a source to back up such claims. Judging from each of your sources from Pri.org not many of them back up their claims with statistics or cross-referencing. I find this to be an unreliable source to use and you should probably cross reference such claims made. '"The Blue Wall of Silence" (http://www.pri.org......) is an obstruction of justice and you would be on the picket line demanding community oversight as well." This "Blue Wall of Silence" you speak of is a myth used by BLM protestors, Black Panther activists, and other anti-black oppression groups that claim there is a rising toll of hate crime in America. Not only is it statistically untrue and unproven your source does not back up such claim at all. http://www.policechiefmagazine.org... "Actually there are protests over guns and gang violence. (https://www.dnainfo.com......) (http://www.slate.com......). But more importantly the perpetrators of gang violence are more consistently pursued to the fullest extent of the law while sadly the perpetrators of police brutality are not." Protests over gun and gang violence is not the main reasoning for BLM. Their main goal is to stop oppression of blacks which is not statistically proven to be a rising conflict in America. Black lives matter claims that they want to stop the killing of blacks. (And i'll say it yet again, there is a significantly higher black on black crime rate than white cops on blacks. To top it off even smaller than that is a hate crime. Can you imagine being a white cop in the past few years? Do you not realize how in fear some of these cops are when confronting blacks? Not because of their race. But because if a Police officer has to make a last second decision to save his own life and end a young black mans life, the event will be spewed all over the media and just like the ferguson shooting, this cop will be harrassed and his life will be nothing but a constant threat of death. Do you honestly believe that cops are so racist. So many cops. Want the death of blacks unjustified and want to live a life of fear for not only themselves but their families? Putting your own family in danger over a hate crime is not something someone with morality would do. Like I said, of course there are hate crimes that cops commit. But there is no evidence that even 1/5 of all white cops commit hate crimes. Even now that the facts are out we find out that the alton stirling case was justified. That hasn't stopped BLM from protesting. Was it a sloppy handling of an arrest? Sure. How do you avoid potentially getting shot? You don't resist arrest and have an illegal weapon on you. Pro: "sadly the perpetrators of police brutality are not." This is yet again a false claim and is not supported by any source and/or statistic. http://www.nytimes.com... "The former New York police officer Michael Pena received 75 years from a Manhattan judge in 2012 for raping an elementary school teacher on her way to work." The maximum punishment for rape is 30 years, in some circumstances life in prison. Notice "In some circumstances" meaning more than one misdemeanor or violent crime along with rape. This officer got 75 with a rape charge, public indecency (intoxication) and second degree attempted manslaughter which is punishable anywhere from 5-15 years. . I think we can agree that this officer has been punished much more than a civilian. Corruption among police officers are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and then some. Now before you make a claim such as "not all corrupt cops are brought to justice" far more murderers are not brought to justice than police officers. "The clearance rate for murders is about 65% in the United States today" Meaning 35% of all murders are not solved as of right now. Whether a government official takes a life or a civillian, the punishment is still the same. It is murder. https://www.quora.com... http://www.nydailynews.com... http://www.attorneys.com... There is significantly more black on black crime than white cops who commit hate crime. To say that the small amount of hate crimes committed by cops is more important than 60 blacks being shot on fourth of july just this year is absolutely absurd. A black life taken is a black life taken. For you to make such a statement would be the same as me saying: In 2015, 500 houses burned down. 15 of those houses were burned down by their neighbors. This is a far more important matter that must be stopped than the other 485 houses that are completely destroyed. BLM claims the biggest threat to black lives is white oppression. Yet white oppression is statistically much smaller than we can imagine. Even if all 380+ black deaths were hate crimes, that still doesn't denote the fact that 90% of blacks are victims of crime from their own race