Fathers Should Have a Say in Abortion

My argument is not about men using DNA to justify controlling a woman's body. It's about requiring women to live up to their responsibility in the situation the same way men are expected. When a man has sex with a woman he is expected to provide her support (financial, emotional, physical etc.) should conception occur. When she has sex with him she is accepting the same level of responsibility to him that he is accepting to her. If you don't believe that she has any responsibility to him, then how can you argue that he would have responsibility to her? It makes no sense. It's not as though she got pregnant on her own and some strange man is coming along trying to control what she does with her body. The fundamental differences I see between your position and mine: 1. You believe that there is no child after conception. I disagree and there are millions of other people who think the same way. 2. You believe it's all about the woman and there are no other people involved in the situation. The fact of the matter is that she is not alone in the situation. There's another person involved. A person she chose to accept into her life in this way. Perhaps if more women were encouraged to believe this they might feel less alone? 3. You believe in the double standard so often held against men. That belief is that men are only considered to be the father when it's convenient. Fathers are only looked to when they are needed to provide something. The father as another person in the situation with a heart and conscience of his own is of no importance to you whatsoever. >>>>> Tatarize: Nobody has rights to children, whether born or unborn. Then why all the custody battles after birth? If no one has rights to a child then there would be no such thing as custody. And remember, I believe there is a child after conception therefore the child being unborn is irrelevant. >>>>> Tatarize: You actually seems a bit misogynistic. I find your suggestion that I have a dislike for women to be offensive. I'm not degrading women, I'm merely providing a voice for fathers which all too often goes unheard. >>>>> Tatarize: He probably won't win. But, he can sue. If legislation were to pass granting fathers a say in abortion, then he would win. I asked you, >>Is the role of the father merely that of sperm donor? Yes or No? You said: No. But, sperm nor DNA give him the right to control other people. The fact that you added the word "but" further points out that you're in favor of a double standard. SUMMARY First, this is the last round of this debate and I want to Thank You for having this conversation with me. I'll look forward to reading your final post and seeing what others on this site have to say on this issue. Suffice to say, you and I will part ways disagreeing (which is okay) The only way I can sum up my point of view on this matter is to remind you that when a woman finds herself pregnant, she didn't get there by herself. She's not alone. Should a woman find herself pregnant by a man who is willing to assist her in all the ways she needs and who would love the baby, is morally wrong on her part. This to me is more vile and immoral than asking her to carry a baby in her womb for nine months.