Religion, Atheism, and Science are Dead Wrong About Reality

"This is not conspiracy "theory" it's conspiracy fact. No one's making assumptions or guessing what might be taking place behind the scenes. The elite's have written specifically what they plan to do and how to do it in their books" Those who would like to be elite? Maybe. Those with demonstrable power writing these things? I'm afraid not. "It's a matter of taking a walk to the bookstore." In a debate, YOU HAVE TO BRING IN THE EVIDENCE. You can't ask your opponent to do your research for you. " The Illuminati have everything to do with it. If you understand the structure of the Illuminati, it is comprised of all the highest ranking members from various secret societies." Proof? "If you deny the influence of secret societies on religion, you have much to learn." Then teach :) "The Knights Templar and the Freemasons have very strong ties to Judeo-Christianity." The Knights Templar and Freemasons were Christians, but the influence of both has long since waned. Modern banking (banking being the function of the Knights Templar, mad mysticism that of the Freemasons) is separate from religion, and the Freemasons were never of primary importance anyway-- they were comprised of people who were important,. but important for doing separate things. For all intents and purposes, the Freemasons were a club you'd get into if you had influence or wanted to be a lackey. Describing them as a conspiracy is to mistake the effect for the cause. "How could religion be so wrong on accident?" People are evasive. " The mainstream scientific community is a belief system." A community is not a belief system, sorry, try again, it's a collection of people. And irrelevant to the resolution anyway. " And what's with this "ad authoritatem fallacy" BS? Who's to say who's legitimate or an authority in a subject?" Anytime you can't explain validly why we should go for the intellectual corner-cutting of picking an authority on a subject, establishing both their trustworthiness and their expertise, it's a fallacy. "David Icke is an expert in ALL subjects" It is a contradiction in terms to be an expert in all subjects. Expertise refers to the result of specialization. I don't think even the North Korean propagandists would have the balls to say such a thing about Kim Jong, it's hilarious enough when they call him an "internet expert." "and has been researching for 20 years in over 40 countries." Betcha if ya add up the freemason's research they have way more. Betcha won't trust them :). " Yes, but usually evolution comes attached with Atheism. Evolution is a core belief in Atheism. " Contradiction-- for something to be a "Core belief" of something else, it has to be a constant, not a "usual." " I thought it had to do with the selfish gene and life emerging from microbes. " Selfish gene is a metaphor. Microbes ARE life, so life emerging from them would be question-begging, not evolution. " Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins explained the origins of life as the result of the first self replicating molecule. " First, a sauce would help your case here. A little. Second, that's a HYPOTHESIS, not the theory of evolution. A very logical hypothesis, but not a scientifically testable one. " I don't care about all of this debate terminology about "strawmans" and what not." That isn't "debate terminology," it's terminology for any discourse in which logic is relevant. "I don't think pointing out "unsound" arguments should be a factor in winning a debate." The result of that is spamming a million unsound arguments with no consequence but victory. " We can detect some of the other frequencies outside of visible light, but we haven't searched all of them with regaurds to detecting ETs and such." In otherwords, you admit that you have no reason to believe in such ETs. "Holographic Proof http://www.wariscrime.com...... http://www.rense.com...... " Your first link doesn't work. Your second commits false induction. A metaphysical unity between two particles does not imply a metaphysical unity between all particles-- indeed, since the evidence on which that unity is based is not present for all particles, it strongly suggests the opposite. "Multiverse Proof http://scienceline.org...; Does not mention the word multiverse, nor speak of any similar concept. "Multi-dimensions Proof http://www.indiadaily.com...; The only references to that website I can find anywhere on the internet are a forum post describing the site as an Indian answer to the Weekly World News-- i.e., a fake news source that profits off the gullible. The content of the site plays this out. When making extraordinary scientific claims, peer review is helpful :). " Consciousness Proof http://www.quantumconsciousness.org...; This fellow has even less study in quantum mechanics than me, apparently, or absolutely none in statistics. The whole POINT of quantum mechanics, last I heard is the random behavior of small particles-- statistical laws dictate that aggregates bring randomness toward the average. The brain is too big to deviate often from that average, i.e., too big for quantum effects to be more than extremely negligible. " Everything is interconnected, so things that are limited are connected with that which is infinite. " You missed the point. Nothing is infinite. " That's because your mind is perceiving the desk to be solid." No, it's because my hand attempted to go through and was repelled by the solidity of the desk. The repulsion happened prior to, not after, the awareness of solidity. "In reality, solidity is relative to that which is observing." Irrelevant. "If you existed on a higher frequency, you would be able to walk through walls" First, you've got it backwards-- high frequency (of encountering particles)= more solid. Second, I wouldn't be able to walk at all, as I wouldn't be able to repulse from the floor :). "We have been disconnected from the infinite consciousness" Contradiction again. An infinite thing has no limit at which to disconnect. "We don't know much because we haven't reached higher levels of consciousness" Then how do you know they are there? :) "The Illuminati is manipulating and suppressing us with electromagnetic polution and media hypnosis and indoctrination." Wow, I didn't know when I talked about tinfoil hats that you ACTUALLY BELIEVED the theory that leads to tinfoil hats. "Electromagnetic pollution" evidence? (and please, not from another foreign Enquirer equivalent). "People have been stuck in intellect, but intelligence is stupid compared to consciousness." Intelligence= a consciousness engaged in activity. " Generally, universe means everything that exists, but when we are talking about the multiverse, universe refers to the bubbles that emerged from big bangs in the 11 dimensional hyperspace. " In otherwords, undemonstrable pseudoscientific babble. " Brain waves = energy. Delta, Theta, Alpha, Beta, and Gamma waves. " This makes the assumption that those waves are the only referent of consciousness, again undemonstrable. " They have been mathematically proven." Where? By whom? In what paper? On what principle? With what referent for every single number in every equation? " This is true. The thing is is that we are not the body, and our bodies are programmed not to penetrate dense objects." Bodies are not programmed. Furthermore, I can penetrate dense objects-- Water, for example. Yet, nevertheless, the repulsion occurs prior to the perception. "Our consciousness however, can leave the body and travel anywhere." Send your consciousness to my keyboard, and make me type a swear word :). " By looping, I meant like a circular infinite timeline." A definition is not the same as evidence. " True, "conscious" would be a more appropriate term" The same contradiction applies to consciousness- awareness of specific, limited things.