Bible has Flaws

1) Bible differences. -Point i was making: I made a reference to how Aceviper2011 is saying the Bible was made by man, so i simply said, Yes your correct, man has -tried- to forge their own bible, its called Catholic bible, Koran, Jehovah's witness, Mormons. All of these claim they're from God, by changing words around. So i ask Aceviper2011 to understand that, if you want to see what a bible looks when it's touched by man, look at the differences between the KJ bible compared to them. The Catholic bible isnt like, or similar to the KJ version at all. Here are some chapters which Catholic bible has which the bible of KJ does not see them as legitimate words from God, due to historical, factual, and doctrine errors. AKA tampered. Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (or Sirach), and Baruch. Catholic Bibles also include an additional six chapters (107 verses) in Esther and three chapters (174 verses) in Daniel. Some were forged, and tried to make verses appear older then they actually were. Quote from Jesus himself - Luke 11:27-28 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." 28 He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it." I could talk alot about the differences in the Cathloic bible, but this should be enough. http://www.catholic.org... RE: Many bible versions. We have alot of versions, and translations, but they're all translated from two languages into every other language in the world. Hebrew for OT, and Greek for NT. Reason why so many difference versions is due to copyrights. None of the bibles change in teaching. Some are Aramaic, but this isnt a problem in terms of translation due to the disciplines understanding of languages. Since it was normal for them to speak in 2-3 languages at the time, and repeat words back and forth, and write with ease. RE: Aceviper2011 said "Then you(Albert) stated "the bible we have today is far more powerful since its not so obviously tainted by man". Does that mean since both list and talk about the same people you agreed that obviously tainted by man, agreeing to the bible having flaws. The evidence and proof is in your own words." What you claim has no proof, since the foundation you've used is incorrect. Since you do not understand how vastly different the Catholic bible is, you made this false statement. RE: Paragraph above 2) My statement, "other so called words of God." Is in relation to other religions pulling scriptures from the bible and calling it God. Since this is about man altering the bible, im education you about how many people have altered it for their own desire. 2) a) I see you used a silly twist of my own words, since my grammer was off. Just because my grammer is off, doesnt mean the bible is wrong. I would have thought people would understand, but if you feel the need to go into such detail, ill explain. Moses talked to God face-to-face, no man has ever talked to God like Moses. Jesus did, but he is God. b) The highly detailed definition in the way your going about this, is more a play on words, rather then whole arguments. If you could only hear some arguments about other doctrines, you would understand. Ill continue - Moses spoke to God, in a form which isnt his true form, he came as a cloud on the MT to give the commandments, Moses spoke to another form of God. Because your so crucial on detail, then the small details will be the counter argument - although i think readers will not be impressed as this sounds petty. Numbers 12:8 Common English. With him I speak face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?" Numbers 12:8 Hebrew With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of Y"hw" יָהוֶה shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant M""" The word used -Similitude- means 1) form, image, likeness, representation, semblance something portioned (that is, fashioned) out, as a shape, that is, (indefinitely) phantom, or (specifically) embodiment, or (figuratively) manifestation (of favor):"image, likeness, similitude. Likeness, representation, phantom. These words are not the same as flesh of God, or Gods real face. These words say, "likeness, image, phantom. http://www.qbible.com... http://lexiconcordance.com... B) Aceviper2011 said: "But also god did say thou shall not kill, so basically God broke his own laws, also the bible contradict itself with killing and murdering" Jesus was a sacrifice, not a murder victim. It would seem you do not understand the difference between a sacrifice and killing/murder. C) Aceviper2011 said "so if god could do that then why not god say with no one writing it for him let there be the word of god, for we shall call it the bible." But before that he rejected my reply, but only half of my reply, without understand what i said. "Well his example to that was driving and a manual, well im going to just say I do apologize but that still does not prove this what i am about to say. " Aceviper2011 isnt understanding that ive said "God wants to be a personal God." The usage of teaching how to drive your child, sitting beside them, guiding, teaching, correcting is part of parenting. So when my Aceviper2011 says, God said, let there be light and there was light, so why couldn't God say, Let there be the word of God, and call it the bible? Aceviper2011, Why didnt God throw a handbook at Adam and Eve? Why did he walk with them in the garden, instead of giving them homework? My reply to him, is the same as before - God is a personal God, he didnt want to throw manuals in the face of his creation, he wanted to walk with us, like he did with Adam. God revealed himself through people, and it's recorded in the bible. Which aka means, The revelation of people knowing God. Because God didnt throw books from the sky, but we wrote about how God came to us. Personal God. Exodus 32:27 -Its not nice, true, but sadly, the people broke the law first, not God. If a man murders and is judged, and put to death, is the judge committing murder? So if they broke two of the first and powerful laws, should they be judged or not? It's clear that God says do not kill, and it's clear God says: 6 "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 7 "You shall have no other gods before[b] me. 8 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 10 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. --- The Hebrews placed the golden calf before God, which break the two strongest commandments. Remember the penalty for murder is death, and so God saw they broke two of the most important rules, also - they were saved by God recently from Egypt, yet they defile him? God passed judgment upon these people. Very harsh isnt it, to put a brother to death, and yet these people had no excuse for breaking these two laws. They spat in the face of God twice after being saved with all Gods power from Egypt. God parted the sea, rained fire and ice on Egypt and more, yet they do this? RE: ) Aceviper2011 has no responded to my: D) Evil. Only example you get is, "If you love your own child, and teach all the good things of how to live, then later in life becomes a mass murder. Can i accuse you of creating a evil human?"