The straight white male is the most discriminated person in America.

Good debate so far I think. Still a lot to say though. I would like refer to a statement you made:"Those in border states have to deal with the very real problems of the costs associated with illegal immigration, while most other people in the country just flip out because all of the sudden, the person packing their groceries is having trouble speaking english. That latter example, I contend, is much more rooted in racism, considering those same people would not have much of a problem if that grocery bagger was from some European country and was lilly white." This is what I am talking about. You are right! They wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. But you automatically assume that it is a racist agenda! Could it be because Europeans aren't illegally immigrating in record numbers to America? Here is my point about that whole situation. If it was russians illegally immigrating by the millions to America, and there were whole towns and counties that spoke mainly Russian, the entire country would rise up to cut this problem off. But it is Mexicans, so Liberal white America says "You can't have a problem with what they are doing, they aren't the same color as you!". So illegal immigrants come into our country, use our resources, get free health care(which legal American citizens don't even get), break our laws, and because they aren't white we have to take it with a smile or we are racist. Trust me, if there were millions of people from any nation, coming here illegally, refusing to speak our language, respect our culture and laws, the same people that are pissed about Mexican illegal immigration would be just as pissed, the only difference is we would get the blessing from Liberal America, as long as they are white illegals. You bring up a good point about how White Liberals are not as discriminated against as Conservatives. It is very true. Why is it true though? Cause Liberals go out of their way to kiss the asses of the non-white communities. The thing is they don't DO anything for those communities. The reason Republicans whites are despised is pure politics. Republicans throughout history have been battling for civil rights against the Democrats. Republicans are the reason segregation ended, blacks can vote, slavery ended, blacks can run for office, all the while being opposed by the democrats. for example: June 26, 1857 Abraham Lincoln declares Republican position that slavery is "cruelly wrong," while Democrats "cultivate and excite hatred" for blacks October 13, 1858 During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: "I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever"; Douglas became Democratic Party's 1860 presidential nominee October 25, 1858 U.S. Senator William Seward (R-NY) describes Democratic Party as "inextricably committed to the designs of the slaveholders"; as President Abraham Lincoln's Secretary of State, helped draft Emancipation Proclamation June 4, 1860 Republican U.S. Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA) delivers his classic address, The Barbarism of Slavery April 7, 1862 President Lincoln concludes treaty with Britain for suppression of slave trade April 16, 1862 President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no July 2, 1862 U.S. Rep. Justin Morrill (R-VT) wins passage of Land Grant Act, establishing colleges open to African-Americans, including such students as George Washington Carver July 17, 1862 Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy "shall be forever free" August 19, 1862 Republican newspaper editor Horace Greeley writes Prayer of Twenty Millions, calling on President Lincoln to declare emancipation August 25, 1862 President Abraham Lincoln authorizes enlistment of African-American soldiers in U.S. Army September 22, 1862 Republican President Abraham Lincoln issues Emancipation Proclamation January 1, 1863 Emancipation Proclamation, implementing the Republican's Confiscation Act of 1862, takes effect February 9, 1864 Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton deliver over 100,000 signatures to U.S. Senate supporting Republicans' plans for constitutional amendment to ban slavery June 15, 1864 Republican Congress votes equal pay for African-American troops serving in U.S. Army during Civil War June 28, 1864 Republican majority in Congress repeals Fugitive Slave Acts October 29, 1864 African-American abolitionist Sojourner Truth says of President Lincoln: "I never was treated by anyone with more kindness and cordiality than were shown to me by that great and good man" January 31, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition November 25, 1955 Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel March 12, 1956 Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation June 5, 1956 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down "blacks in the back of the bus" law October 19, 1956 On campaign trail, Vice President Richard Nixon vows: "American boys and girls shall sit, side by side, at any school - public or private - with no regard paid to the color of their skin. Segregation, discrimination, and prejudice have no place in America" November 6, 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President September 9, 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party's 1957 Civil Rights Act September 24, 1957 Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools June 23, 1958 President Dwight Eisenhower meets with Martin Luther King and other African-American leaders to discuss plans to advance civil rights I have a lot of other stuff, but you get my point. Now here is a kind of curve ball. I want to state now, that the most discrimination against straight white males, is by other whites. Namely liberals. White people can't be proud to be white or they are racist. Affirmative action, how racist is that? If I apply for a job and a black man applies for the same job, he gets it, why? Well, because he is black. All black colleges, Latino Scholarships, NAACP, black history month, BET, whites couldn't have anything like these things. Because that would be racist. You can't deny that straight white males, conservative or not, have to walk on egg shells when it comes to race. A Mexican can yell "Latino pride!", a black man can yell "Black pride!", all a white man can say is "I support you both cause I am not a racist!". The double standard is there, it is created by Democrats. People like Bill Clinton, a womanizing, tax raising, liar, are looked up to by liberals as what a white man should be. It is crazy.