Gun Control Is Bad (BROAD)

however it's not like the civilians are dissatisfied where their government completely, and when they are they have overthrown past leaders without guns." Don't give me that, they are working with the drug lords and are extremely corrupt. Why do you think all of them want to flee to America? >"So how come we still have corruption problems? " Because they pass small laws at a time.. For example if the government tomorrow passed a law to seize all firearms the populous would near instantly revolt to overthrow the government, but by slowly passing small laws over the course of many years you won't stir up the public. On top of that people aren't going to revolt over a television company scandal. Take a look at the Bundy Ranch scenario an armed militia took back the land the government wanted to take.(saving words limit) >"Can you stop referring to all of Europe as one big country? There are literally dozens of different countries on that continent." Except at this point in Europe there is a union that binds them all together. The EU commission leaders want (and are) passing mandatory gun laws that are effective over Europe. On top of that virtually every country in Europe has similar anti-gun laws at this point. >" You also realize with the mass panic it is easy to get confused with a crowd running around. How would you be able to indenting the target from another civilian trying to be a hero?" I have done firearm training that involves shooting in low light conditions but that isn't even the point. The excuse that "with mass panic the armed victims will shoot at random"... Is this really your counter argument? It hurts my brain how you can't comprehend this simple logic.Not to mention other Paris shooters were shooting in broad daylight on an empty street. If that was America they wouldn't of lasted more than 50 seconds without being taken down by an armed citizen. "Trained - as in practicing working in high stress, high intense situations so that you can quickly identify the correct target and perform the duty you set out to do." Yet in America plenty of "untrained" citizens managed to stop bank, store and home robberies without causing any of extra damage you speak of. >"Anyone can pull a trigger yes but being in a firefight situation is completely different than a shooting range where the targets do not shoot back and civilians can run right in front of your target" Yes but you are only talking about the first 20 seconds from when the situation first begins.. If they decided to shoot the terrorists as they exited the building or stayed in a corner, but do I really need to repeat myself? Over 130 people died and almost 400 injured. Several hundred rounds were shot by the terrorists, they had time to stop and reload multiple times, walk outside the building and so forth.. You are telling me that if 1/3 of the people there concealed carry pistols that it would of made the situation worse? You serious? > "You have no uniform it'll be easy to confuse you for the enemy" Uhm no, pretty easy to tell a distraught citizen with a pistol to screaming terrorists with huge ak-47 rifles and military gear. >"even breaking apart a gun you can indenting those parts as well as the essentials for it, in the end it still takes longer for the guns to enter the hands of the criminal, so you proved my point there why gun control is useful." Uhh no you aren't making any sense. Depending on the gun it will take one minute to several minutes to put the gun back together depending on your training, but it's extremely hard to detect smuggled gun that are broken down into pieces. Gangs and terrorists also only need to smuggle a few parts to turn their semi-automatic into an automatic.. and they can smuggle several hundred parts without being detected. >"Accidental firearms doesn't just happen with people under the age of 18, just because you turn 18 doesn't mean you magically become mature/intelligent enough to properly hand a gun." Well obviously not, but 18 is when your brain started to mature. "Gun violence in the heavily senses populated cities compared to states with small populations?" If you take population into count it's still MUCH lower. > " do you forget that most mass shooting was done by a white male?" Well the worst mass shooting was done by an Asian, but white mass shooting tend to be out of anger and not mental health issues. So that's something else. > ", I mean have had a conversation with them," If they aren't of low IQ they are going to know what you are doing, they can feign themselves to look perfectly normal. > "There are plenty of people with an IQ over 70 or isn't severely mentally ill that you still wouldn't want to have a gun. So the notion that a mental health check would only apply to a small portion of the population is completely false, there are those with an anger problem, alcohol problem, drug problem, etc the list can go on. Even a mentally competent person can break down, from a loss of work, or figuring out their significant other has cheated on them." And how would mental health experts find out these problems? A person isn't going to admit all these problems at their firearm medical check... Unless you have a record (which most people with these problems don't).. There is no way for you to know. > "My point there is that it still takes time. Meaning it slows down criminal activity." By a few seconds maybe. Even Google common guns and their strip time. AK-47 (most popular terrorist gun) can be done in around 10-40 minutes depending on the skill level. Even less for other rifles.. and don't even get me started on pistols which can be fully reassembled in about 5 minutes. So unless a huge gang or terrorist group needed several hundred firearms converted and done in the same day.. Your counter is null and void. "After all you never did answer why 80% of mass shootings gun have been obtained legally" That is true for America, because if it wasn't legal it would be done illegally. Not that hard for even a single person to strip a gun down and go across the border undetected. The only reason they aren't doing it is because it is legal. >"Australia's gun violence after their stricter gun control." Well I looked at charts, and well gun violence did drop after the initial ban they soon returned to pre-ban levels with only a very small decrease. So I would like you to source me on the gun violence chart in Australia.. I don't want editorials or Huntington post-like articles. >" because you prove my point by showing the extra steps and measures it takes to get around those laws," Criminals, terrorists and gangs will easily bypass these measures.You know why they don't sell guns? Because there isn't a market for it. " if you are competent the extra few days or paperwork it takes to obtain a gun shouldn't bother you, as there is literally no reason why you "must have a gun right at the moment" because if you aren't committing any crimes you should be able to plan your purchase out accordingly just as when you set up dates to get your drivers license." But that law only makes law abiding citizens wait, criminals and terrorists will still commit the crime beit delayed by however long the wait is. But like I said before.. Most mass shooting are done in gun free zones like churches and schools. It's the same reason people aren't stupid enough to rob a gun store or a police station.