Objective Moral Values and Duties Show that God Exists

First I will be addressing what Pro has argued. For Pro to win this debate they must prove: What is God's moral values and where do they come from God is the only being that can decide objectively on morals Objective morality does exist That no man-made standard for morality is objective I will concede the that no man-made standard for morality is objective and that humans cannot be morally objective (meaning that some sort of god or "higher being" would be required if objective morality is even possible.) What I will be debating is that objective morality does not exist and/or is impossible. By not stating what these objective morals are and where they came from, Pro has set up a debate that is nearly impossible to answer. This is because anything I claim against Pro, they can just dodge by saying that isn't what they are saying. This is abusive and should be clarified at the very beginning of the next round. 1. Moral Nihilism aka Ethical Nihilism I am a moral nihilist. Moral nihilists claim that nothing is inherently moral or immoral. This is contrary to most societies belief that killing is naturally immoral and rescuing a puppy from a burning building is naturally moral. Nihilists believe neither action is inherently right or wrong. The term inherently is important here, and that is why I used it multiple times. We believe things are without natural morality, but that doesn't mean they can't be given morality. This means that right and wrong are constructed by society to serve society, which is why different cultures have differing beliefs. This is why human sacrifice was considered moral, same with slavery, caste system, etc. It comes down to meaning that morals are not universally objective reflections of some divine truth, such as a god(s). They are. as anything else, constructed by society to benefit us. Nihilists also believe they are necessary because humans are social and emotional beings. We need to be able to express these feelings of right or wrong to create social groups, this explains things like different tribes. WE assign right or wrong to express our feelings of such things and create structures to be used to build societies in. Nihilists believe these morals do have meaning as well, that meaning is just not natural or divinely given. This is why we don't assume animals are evil or immoral, they are just parts of nature. Morality is something we constructed to define our species alone. 2. Logic disproves objective morals In morals there are standards. These standards are used to judge whether or not something is moral. These standards also has "sub-standards." Allow me to give an example. One of the most popular standards is Human Suffering. This seeks to limit human suffering as much as possible. But there are differing levels. "Purists" believe that human suffering should be limited at all costs, except human suffering of course. Some believe that there is give and take of human suffering and whatever that surrounds it. Even then there are more divisions and sub-standards. Those within these groups within this single standard some believe short term should be prioritized over long term and others vice versa. With every little thing that someone believes changing their stance on morality, objective morals cannot exist. Even conceptually, with a god. To what standard does god or some divine being subscribe to? If not a single one, how does that being take into account all or none at all? This is conceptually impossible and here is why: objective: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. I have shown that morality is just this, influenced completely or almost completely on personal feelings or opinions. Morality is not factual, it is an interpretation of what YOU consider to be right or wrong. This is why I believe this debate even exists! Religious people use their faith to explain things that are generally unexplainable. This can be said for morality, they need something given to them in the pretext of "This is the best, follow this." This is the reason faith exists in the first place. Conclusion: I'm well read in most subjects, including religion. I do not know of any religion that has a set of morals clearly defined by their holy book. Moral nihilism explains the reason society has created morals to use to their benefit, as well as why we don't see nature as immoral or wrong. This is of course because objective morality does not exist and can not exist.