Religion (Christ)

1 God can’t be real So this whole debate is on whether God is real or not. So in this paragraph I will show how this is impossible. In your response in the comments you said “Matter (like the universe) cannot be eternal for the reasons I have already given. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the big bang, the expansion rate of the universe, and the absurdity of infinity.” Now I would like to focus on the “absurdity of infinity” part. It never mentions who created God, it just says that suddenly he decided to create the world. So if nobody created God, and God existed, then he would have to be eternal, or therefore infinite. Your response to the bible having lies in it was that, “By no means is the Christian held to the view that there was a literal man named Adam, a literal women named Eve, and a literal talking snake.” But Jesus, in his teachings believed it was literal so you disagree with the very person you worship. “Jesus believed in the Garden of Eden, and taught that Adam and Eve were two literal people that existed in history.” http://www.bible-history.com... This contradicts what you said yet again. I’ve noticed that you seem to water down religion so much to fit reality. As a metaphor: let’s say a hole is truth. And religion is an object that you are trying to fit through the hole, the object can’t fit, so you change the object and say that you’re not supposed to take the bible seriously and then contradict so many facts about religion to make it the object fit reality and truth. You say that the Big Bang was God creating the Earth and that evolution is in the bible. God just can’t exist, like in the comments, to think you have to have a physical form. God is supposedly a spirit or invisible so he can’t think. It is impossible for him to exist. My Thoughts on Your Labeling I did not agree at all at what you said when you labeled all atheists as people who have to believe: “There is no such thing as truth, There is no such thing as right and wrong, There is no such thing as consciousness, Humans and other organisms have no value, Life has no meaning or purpose, There is no such thing as intentionality (you cannot think about anything), Everything is predetermined, You and I do not actually exist.” This is stereotype, labels people and tells them what they have to believe. I do not believe in any of those things and do not plan to. If you think that I have to believe these all to be atheist, then I shall change to whatever suits my thoughts and interests. “You don’t need religion to have morals. If you can’t determine what’s right from wrong, you lack empathy not religion.” I believe morality comes from human nature not gods. Being atheist lets me believe what I want to believe and gives me freedom. Instead of being told what to think by a book that was written 3,000 years ago by primitive people. “An intelligent person does not need the promise of a heaven to see merit in good deeds.” Atheists don’t need religion neither does anyone else. Even If God Did Exist, I Wouldn’t Worship Him As I was reading the Bible, God did many… stupid and contradicting things. “And God saw everything that he made, and, behold, it was very good.” This is very wrong since if he created everything why did he create diseases. “Each year, nearly 100,000 children under 15 die from cancer worldwide. That's almost 250 children a day.” God calls his creation an intelligent design? Then why are there more than 4,000 genetic diseases, war, greed, death, girls can’t be educated, children dying of hunger, think about all the things that are wrong with the world and God calls it “good.” I don’t mean to point out every bad thing that’s ever happened; the world is a beautiful place. But God is supposed to be perfect, yet he creates so much evil. So now the human race is punished forever because Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. If God didn’t want anyone to eat or touch the tree of knowledge, then why in the world did he make it! He also made it so accessible, and made it so “that it was pleasant to the eyes.” But if that wasn’t enough he even created a snake to persuade them to eat the fruit too. It was almost as if God wanted Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. So we are all punished for something we didn’t do, which is very unjust. He also created something that rebelled against the “Most High God” and the one who leads the evil spirits in their rebellion against the Kingdom of Heaven and God's purposes. I don’t know why God would create his own mortal enemy.God also said, “However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.” (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT) The bible also says about slavery, “When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.” (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB) “Thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” There are also lots of other verses on how the bible is sexist. But I am running out of room I wish to include more morals of the bible next time. So far the bible is pro slavery, sexist, and punishes people for things they didn’t do. “I cannot believe in a god who wants to be praised all the time.” Friedrich Nietzsche. So even if there is a God, I would never pray to him because of all that he stands for and has done. There are many, many more examples but I have to finish. Conclusion The human instinct to know, and to know why has led to the invention of religion to help comfort their frustration of not knowing. But now we actually know the truth and the why. So why do we keep religion? Because it comforts us? But does living in a world that is completely inconsistent with everything we have observed in the universe really necessary to help our depression? We need to stop letting religion blind us from true reason so that we can progress as a human race. “I question everything, and worship nothing.” Like in that picture on Pinterest, we need to break free from the totalitarianism society and be able to think. Not hide behind the comfort of faith. As I have mentioned in my response, I have proven on many points that God can’s exist and that religion is obsolete. This is a very fun debate and I thank you for it and I respect you. I apologize if any of it is rude and good luck! (I would recommend searching atheist quotes on Pinterest for they have many very interesting ones.) J