Lincoln was a white supremicist and one of this countries worst, most unconstitutional presidents.

1) Before I go into your individual subpoints I will start by saying that it is nearly impossible to find a single person, past or present, that isn't/wasn't at least a little biased toward his/her own race. Based on societal norms of the time, it is also nearly impossible to find a white person from that time period that wouldn't be considered a white supremicist by todays norms, and based on my arguments to follow, Lincoln is the exception to that statement. A) Lincoln did not only free slaves in the South. His first slave related measure, the Emancipation Proclimation, only freed slaves in the south, but this was really more of a war tactic than a statement of his beliefs. His post-war support for the thirteenth amendment helped to free all slaves, north and south. B) Lincoln's deportation of the blacks was not out of any supremicist beliefs, in fact it was out of concern for their own best interest. With so many deaths in the civil war, almost everybody was affected, and many blamed the whole ordeal on the blacks making it extremely difficult to coexist. The American Colonization Society originally started sending blacks to Liberia well before the war for the purpose of providing them with a free society that lacked the discrimination they faced in America, and Lincoln's policy was simply a continuation of this belief. C) A google search did not turn up this quote or evidence that this quote exists, so if you could give me the source that you took it from, I'll be glad to argue it in later rounds. 2) Even if you win that these constitutional violations actually happened and that they were bad for society, proving that he was the worst or one of the worst will be an impossible task for you because his policies that you talk about mirror the policies of every wartime president in the history of the United States. A) Again, you need to provide evidence if you want this debate to happen correctly, all of the sources I find indicate that the arrests were made in the summer and fall of 1861, AFTER the war began. Also, I find that the average time of detainment was 2-3 months, far shorter than detainment ordered by other presidents in other wars, and an excutive order from Lincoln himself ended the arrests and freed all prisoners in February of 1862. B) This was a simple and clear decision to make. If Maryland fell to the Confederacy, the capital would be surrounded and the war would fail before it even began. Despite constitutional issues, this was a necessary action to preserve the United States and allow it to become the great nation that it is today. C) How is this different than your point A? You're just rewording your points to make it look like you have more support than you do. D) The ONLY reason for war was to preserve the union. Lincoln believed strongly that the Union was perpetual and the states didn't have a right to break away. The concern for slavery grew out of the war effort as a secondary reason. In what is becoming a recurring theme, you fail to warrant either of the arguments you make about the tariff or Southern efforts to end slavery. I know you make the claim in your first post that you will warrant your arguments after you see how I respond, but 1) How do you expect me to respond effectively if you don't warrant any arguments? and 2) Waiting until later in the debate to bring out evidence allows you to shift your position and force me to waste posts responding to things that don't matter. E) Lincoln limited the power of government and it's ability to run rampant on our rights by solidifying the check of the federal over the states. As in any system of checks and balances the various levels must be able to check each other in order to be effective and protect rights. While I believe in states rights and bringing power closer to the people, it is still possible for states to abuse rights as was evidenced in the civil war and at that point a federal check becomes necessary.