All Religions (From Catholicism to Buddhism) either Change the Bible or are Iliogical

Thanks for your thorough response, Also I love that you added in numbered points for clarity! To your first response, I still have yet to see what denomination of Christianity you are defending, For the sake of this debate I will assume you are defending the Baptist tradition as it is listed on your profile. To the others: 1. -Agree, I find all of these things common in all Christian denominations 2. -Agree (group both as same response) 3. -Agree, But with three deviations/ questions a. What makes this written record the word of God and (important) by whose authority? (referring to my original question) b. God is God, But the bible wasn't written by God but by humans (who can lie). I would agree that God in this case worked through humans by means of an authoritative Church to produce the Bible in truth, But in the same way God also works through people by word of mouth or oral teaching. I would add that the bible hasn't always existed. In the early church Christians had to learn their faith via oral teaching, The bible came as a complement to this teaching later on. c. You state that the bible is the supreme authority of Christianity, My question is how do you know this and assuming that it is true, Where is this found in the bible. This idea that the Bible is the sole authority is commonly referred to as "Sola Scriptura" and is a recent ideal brought by Protestantism 1500 years after Christ"s established Church, When the printing press began and the bible was mass produced. 4. -Christ is the only mediator? I would agree that Christ mediates, But through his Church. If your stance is that Christ"s Church has no purpose, Then that would make all Christian churches illogical and unnecessary, But of course this is absurd. Christ isn"t here to personally mediate for you, But he did leave behind a church to act as mediation for people. The question is what Church? 5. -I agree to born again, But by the Biblically Christian way: Baptism. Throughout scripture we see references to baptism, For example: In Acts 22, 16 we see this clearly referenced; "And now what are you waiting for? Get up, Be baptized and wash your sins away, Calling on his name. " Baptism is the washing of one"s sins and starting anew to indeed be "born again. " 6. -I think it is important that I point out an important contradiction in this point. You state the "Church" to be many churches. The problem with this is that it contradicts your position that some denominations are illogical/false and are therefore not part of Christianity. This definition of "Church" simply ignores the significant inconsistencies with the thousands of ideologically separate Christian churches and asserts all of them to be true, But simply, And I think you can agree with me here, Not all of them can be right. In other words there has to be one solid truth, Christ"s one true Church that he established with his exact teachings. 7. -Agree After these points you have to wonder what is the true Church? Who does have the authority to declare the bible the word of God? Also who can authoritatively interpret scripture, As Apostle Peter in 2 Peter 1:20 states: "know this first of all, That there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation" There has to be an authority to clear up this mess. To answer this I now put forth my case for Christ"s true Church. In order for any denomination to be considered true, They have to contain 4 specific requirements: 1. Be One church (As explained earlier) 2. This church must be a source of holiness (self explanatory) 3. Have Apostolic origin to Christ himself (The very teachings of Christ were best observed and kept by the Apostles his followers, It is important that the Church is traced back to them and their successors that they taught as to preserve the true teachings of Christ. ) 4. Be a universal church (As Christ would want, This church needs to be found throughout the world and be working to incorporate all) The only church to observe all four of these marks is the Catholic Church: 1. -It is one unified Church lead by the Pope 2. -It brings in grace via the sacraments and has observed saints throughout its history 3. -The head, The Pope, Is traced back to St. Peter who was appointed head of the Church by Christ himself. 4. -Found throughout the world, It contains now 1. 4 billion members worldwide (see citation below) 2000 years ago, The Catholic Church began when Christ founded it with his appointed head St. Peter. This fact is clearly stated in scriptures (Matthew 16:18-19): "And I tell you, You are Peter, And on this rock I will build my church, And the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, And whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, And whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. " Back in the time of Christ, Monarchies were the norm and as commonly understood the "keys" to a kingdom referred to the power granted by the king to his appointed steward to look after his kingdom. In this case, Jesus gives Peter the "Keys" to his kingdom, Meaning Peter is now the head of Christ"s church. 2000 years later these "Keys" have been handed down uninterrupted throughout the Church"s history until the current Pope of the status quo. (266 total, See citation below) The need for a head authority figure such as the Pope even follows logically, As in any organization there needs to be a final authority figure to halt ambiguity and make the organization run smoothly. Christ"s Church is no different. Here is what this means: 1. Authority to the Bible. Now we have found the authority that christened together the Bible commonly called the "Canon of Scripture" and authoritatively declared it the written word of God in the 5th century. 2. Not illogical. The Catholic Church is indeed not illogical, But the complete truth, As all of its teachings were observed by the early Christians (Catholics). 3. Clears ambiguity. The reason that there are so many different denominations is the rejection of the "Keys" authority granted by Christ to the Pope and consequently thousands of breakaways declaring themselves to be their own "Pope". The Baptist Tradition for example was founded in Amsterdam in 1609 by John Smyth. It is because the most illogical thing is the rejection of true Christianity, The Catholic Church, That I stand opposed. Citation: (Number of Catholics) http://www. Asianews. It/news-en/Worldwide-number-of-Catholics-grows-to-1. 4-billion--44154. Html (Order of Popes) http://www. Newadvent. Org/cathen/12272b. Htm