Islam Myths

Quote: And yes I did send a challenge. http://www.debate.org...... I don't see a challenge on that link. I don't see any argument, position or anything to respond to. I am not obligated to respond to incoherence. Quote: "Evaded my challenge" - Well, not quite. I constantly broke down your points and you repeated yourself and then claimed victory. The links speak for themselves. You were utterly exposed and humiliated. You threw a tantrum, and threatened to have this website shut down. After being utterly defeated not only by me but by others who stepped in to put you in your place, you incoherently claimed 'victory' as someone who comes last place and then tries to loot the trophy. Claiming victory in a battle you utterly lost, doesn't make you victorious. It is a testament to your failure. Notice that I have been victorious over you consistently. Yet I never needed to claim victory. I let my arguments speak for themselves. I don't need to pretend. I don't need to put my claims on a false pedestal of 'victory'. Quote: And now you accuse me of strawmanning you but you have just strawmanned me. I didn't request the website to be shutdown, the forum was finished. Not only did you threaten to have this website shut down, you admitted it in this very 'debate', at the top of round 2. Quote: You sent a challenge which I accepted so there was no point of continuing. Still waiting for you to answer the challenge and stop evading it: http://www.debate.org... Quote: I stated that the 6 myths were part of Muslims. Not once did I mention the word "Muslims" in the same sentence. You just did. I just quoted you doing it. Quote: So again, you are strawmanning If so, then provide an argument, a premise and evidence. if you cannot, as you have not, then you are strawmanning me. Quote: I did not endorse them, like it or not. The voters will see. I have already established and quoted you admitting to endorsing slavery in this very 'debate'. I have already established and quoted you admitting to the rest in the threads provided. Quote: "Widely accepted that Muhammad was a pedophile." Hadiths can be false, especially if they contradict the Quran. The hadiths were mostly written by Hisham who is not the most credible source. http://www.discoveringislam.org...... The Koran can also be false, have you ever considered that? The Hadith quotes of Aisha's age, do not contradict the Koran and are widely accepted as I have already established. Again, you deny the authenticity of the Hadith, by claiming it as being not a 'credible source'. I have already established that the Hadith I refer to is not mentioned once but many times, and it is widely considered to be the most authentic Hadith. Denying this fact doesn't change it. A google search reveals the very hadith I quote from as the number one authentic Hadith. https://www.google.com... Your very own link admits Mohammad was a pedophile, endorses it and tries to justify it. Quote: "The definition of a child is someone under 18." Not really, a child is someone who has not grown up. There is no specific age, especially not back then. Some historians say that Aisha was between 17-19. Her age is controversial. The age of Aisha was 6, and this is accepted by overwhelming consensus. Claiming that Aisha was much older, is the very practice of Taqiyya, an outright lie. This invented age of Aisha is not based on the Koran or authentic Hadith. It is an outright lie to cover up the fact that Mohammad was a pedophile and Muslims follow his example of pedophilia. Her age is controversial because she was only 9. There is no controversy over her age itself. Quote: Bearing in mind that Aisha reached puberty and based on the way she was described, she was an adult. A 9 year old is a child. Period. Full stop. The whole world outside of Islam agrees in overwhelming consensus. Just because a child hypothetically begins the process of puberty, doesn't mean they are fully grown. It means they are still growing and still a child. A 9 year old child is not an adult in any way whatsoever. A 9 year old child is FAR from an adult, and there is absolutely no grey area about it whatsoever. Quote: Any hadith can be false, and can be corrupted unlike the Quran which states that you must be at the age of marriage to marry. Why is it that the Hadith can be corrupted while the Koran cannot be corrupted? There are far more errors and edits to the Koran than there are to the Bible. And the edits in the Koran are significant and completely change the context of what is said. The Koran as it is known today, was only cannonised in 1924, called the Cairo edition, chosen out of many other versions. I can prove that the Koran can be corrupted by deliberately misquoting it right now... Koran 2:16: Mohammad ate poop and sat on a lolly pop. The end. There is so much evidence available on how heavily corrupted the Koran is, that I will simply offer a youtube search to reveal how extensive it is. https://www.youtube.com... Quote: So Aisha was at the age of marriage. An age that is undefined and can apply to an 18 year old, a 6 year old, or even a new born baby on their first day, which is what happens in Saudi Arabia. Not just Saudi Arabia, but even in the few Islamic countries that have an age of consent. https://www.alaraby.co.uk... Quote: "And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgement, release their property to them. And do not consume it excessively and quickly, [anticipating] that they will grow up. That really isn't a good quote to make in denial of pedophilia. 'Testing' vulnerable orphaned children to see if they are ready for marriage? Would that perhaps involve engaging in sexual activity with children? This whole quote sounds horrific and sickening. Quote: And whoever, [when acting as guardian], is self-sufficient should refrain [from taking a fee]; and whoever is poor - let him take according to what is acceptable. Then when you release their property to them, bring witnesses upon them. And sufficient is Allah as Accountant." - 4:6 If a 6 year old still needs a guardian, then clearly they are not an adult. This whole description sounds like old Muslim men buying child orphan sex slaves, and buying them cheap. It really doesn't work in your favour. It only endorses pedophilia and slavery at the same time. Quote: Muhammad would not disobey the Quran. Really? What about the Satanic verses that Mohammad wrote into the Koran and later removed, declaring them to have been the trickery of Satan? Or what about the fact that the Koran says men can only have 4 wives, while Mohammad had over 10? There are so many times Mohammad disobeyed the Koran, than I refer you to a video revealing just some of the countless examples. Quote: "Quota is not a credible source." Quota is credible if the answer is correct. Such as Muslim science? Drinking camel piss to cure diseases? Eating both wings of a fly to cure a fly's diseases? Sucking on a contagious person's tongue to cure their disease? The universe being sandwiched between a giant fish and 8 giant goats? Semen coming from between the spine and ribs? The earth being one of several pancakes stacked on top of each other? The moon splitting in two? The sun setting in a muddy pool? Do Muslims have deep philosophical discussions on this advanced Koranic science over a hot cup of camel piss? Or do they 'weeze the juice' from the source as this man does? Quote: "She got beaten up by Muhammad." Yeah no, how can she get beaten up if he died? Because he beat her up before he died? Quote: Why was she happy? How did she get the motivation to lead an army? It all does not match up. Bukhari 72:715: Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!' Sahih Muslim 4:2127: Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain." That doesn't sound very happy to me. I wonder what would have happened to her if she complained? Islam has a long history of abusing and oppressing women, following the example of Mohammad and how he treated his wives. Forced veils: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com... Women worth less than a man: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com... Wife beating: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com... Divorce a wife by simply saying 'I divorce you' three times. Marry up to 4 wives, but save one wife space for prostitutes which you can marry for up to 3 days: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com... A woman's place, beneath men: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com... In Islam, men are polygamous, while women are monogamous. Women who cheat or are even innocently raped? DEATH PENALTY: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com... Quote: Taqiyya: It is not taught. https://quran.com...... Verses say planning not deceiving https://quran.com...... In English they do, to cover up what it says in Arabic. Example, cunning and plot, which means deceit, illegal, evasion, harm, guile, trickery... https://translate.google.com... (So many lies, I have run out of space and cannot respond to the rest in one message)