LM Classic: Yraelz vs. feverish

Monkey ===== My opponent and I appear to disagree on whether someone should be disqualified in name or in powers. My argument is that the monkey should be disqualified because his powers forced the heavens to accept his title as, "Great Sage, Equal of Heaven". Yet my opponent believes, as his title is not that of a god, he should not have to be disqualified. Unfortunately my opponent also appears to believe that Black Alice, who in name is a street level character, should be disqualified because of her powers. I would suggest to the judges that he cannot have it both ways. Either Black Alice and Monkey both go or stay. My opponent does nothing to address any of my arguments against Monkey's substantial powers. Street Level ======== Feverish does nothing to address my argument regarding Black Alice fighting super humans left often than even Peter Parker. This contention clearly demonstrates that Black Alice is indeed a street level character. Furthermore though I think my arguments about fairness still stand. My opponent was given equal opportunity to compete on any non-god level with me, however he chose not to. I think this shows that my opponent did not believe in having a fair debate in the first place but rather was just attempting to grab an easy win. Negative One Second ============= In order to move through something one must transgress from one distinct point to another. However, Sentry's molecules are always one second ahead of the normal time line. This means that he never moves through time.... he's always at the same time. He's always one second ahead of the normal time line. There is no time traveling here. Sentry ==== My opponent ignores the fact that all of Sentry's powers come from sunlight. He can create hard light constructs by concentrating so much light in a single area that it cannot be passed through. This is based on the fact that light simultaneously has the properties of waves and matter. This is simply terrible for Dracula because it means he quickly loses his powers. This also renders him ineffective in his quest to steal Sentry's mind. Also on this point, Dracula must be aware or able to see one's presence in order to use this power..... Furthermore my opponent is still ignoring the fact that every member on his team is bound by the solid light constructs, meaning even if they could see they couldn't move. Furthermore they'd be impaled momentarily by the same constructs. But having said that I still don't think the heat graduation goggles would work. Condensed light too bright to see through would just flood everything close by with immense heat. This would mean the goggles would all just see the same color. As far as Monkey goes the source never says he can see through light, or solid objects. It just says he can see through things which humans can't. Furthermore it's really not a matter of seeing in this instance, it's a matter of seeing too much. Monkey's eyes would simply be overwhelmed with immense light. Yes, when Sentry said he could hear a butterfly in Africa that was a claim. As such is every argument my opponent has used against Sentry. Just claims from various people. That being said, I don't understand why Sentry would have a motivation to lie about this point, he's already rather powerful. Also, my opponent is completely wrong about Sentry's susceptibility to mental manipulation. Sentry has shown a susceptibility to mental manipulation from the void multiple times. Let's look at these sources: http://i47.tinypic.com... Please give a context for this picture......? This page doesn't show anything on it's own. http://media.photobucket.com... In this picture Sentry reacts badly to a black magic spell, not mental manipulation. http://media.photobucket.com... Frame two of this picture shows the void up on top of building..... Also it should be noted that Emma Frost didn't "mind rape" Sentry. She helped him by containing the portion of his mind which contained Sentry inside of her own. Finally on this point, even if Dracula somehow was able to get around the fact that he was fried, cut to slices, and impaled by sunlight, on top of not even knowing where the Sentry was.... If he was able to get around all of that then his mental manipulation of Sentry would only, as my opponent has argued, make Sentry break down and cry. It would not result in Sentry being taken control of. Furthermore I'd ask my opponent to describe how Dracula's mental powers work? Do they enable him to see through another's eyes? Ichigo ==== My opponent would like a description of how Ichigo's powers work in the real world. My explanation is rather simple, Ichigo can condense energy into his soul which allows his mere presence to crush others to the ground. I would like my opponent to explain how Monkey's hair cloning ability works in a world where matter cannot be created or destroyed. Why won't being shot kill Monkey? How is it that Monkey can see through that which man can't see through? I would also like to know how Dracula can transform himself into a mist form? How is mind abilities work? Why exactly is it that he is invulnerable to everything except being impaled and decapitated. How exactly does Tony's system phase out light? How does the predator's system phase out light? Black Alice ====== First it should be noted that she steals Sephiroth's powers giving her the ability to move quicker than anyone on Con's team. Secondarily it should be noted that she steals Monkey's powers, who is still stuck in hard light constructs. This means Monkey never gets a chance to rip out one hair, he is powerless and subsequently impaled. Finally it should be noted that the wiki source clearly states that "he could transform each of the 84,000 hairs on his body into inanimate objects and living beings, or even clones of himself." This means that Black Alice will be able to rip out any of her hairs to make clones of herself. With Monkey king easily dispatched team Con doesn't stand a chance. But let's quickly examine the arguments which my opponent is forgetting about. Forgotten ====== "Sephiroth on the other hand simply casts reflect on everyone except himself. Reflect reverses negative magical effects after the original casting." This means even if Dracula wasn't severely weakened he wouldn't be able to get into Sentry's mind anyways. "Meanwhile, Sentry constructs some hard light constructs that look like Team Pro all around Team Con." Meaning even if Team Con could see through the hard light constructs which bind them they wouldn't be able to decipher which opponents were real. There are some more forgotten arguments but I want them to be surprises with a few fun new arguments in due time. Final Note: ======= I am winning this debate with three characters. I only need Sephiroth, Black Alice, and Sentry in order to take my opponents team of five down. He incorrectly supposes that I must throw Black Alice out because he views her has threatening however this is not the case at all. Not only don't I think Black Alice violates the rules under Con's logic but I think even if she did then I'd throw Ichigo out instead. With this in my mind, I'll be introducing a few more new arguments next round, and ultimately ending this debate. ^.^ Have a nice night!