Resolved: The Dark side of the Force are the actual "good guys" in Star Wars.

All of Pro's counter arguments are simply him stating his own opinion as fact while turning a blind eye to all evidence clearly indicating otherwise. Arguments in support of the Jedi - 1 - There is no evidence that a council of 12 Jedi have imposed a theocracy on the entire GALAXY like Pro claims and insists, nor could it even be reasonably possible for 12 Jedi to pull off such a feat either. Its not indicated in any of the 6 movies that the Republic is a theocracy imposed by the Jedi, and there is evidence of people not believing the force even existing in the first place, which gives further weight against the idea of a Jedi-imposed theocracy on the galaxy. - 2 - The Jedi intended to arrest Palpatine for being the Sith Lord Darth Sidious who plunged the galaxy into a Civil War and let the Senate decide his fate, not so that the Jedi could rise to power themselves by ousting Sidious over religious objections like Pro has claimed. Evidence and quotes taken directly from the movie shows that the Jedi acted righteously in their attempt to arrest Palpatine that Pro has simply ignored. .. . To believe that the Jedi attempted a coup requires that one have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a coup actually is: a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. . https://www.google.com...The Jedi acted within their power to place the Chancellor under arrest, they attempted to arrest Sidious peacefully without trying to surprise attack him, and the Jedi did not intend to seize power of the galaxy. The Jedi are clearly not the bad guys. - 3 - There is no evidence that the Jedi opposed the advancement of technology, nor would it be possible that a council of 12 Jedi could have stopped technology from advancing, and the advanced technology of Star Wars clearly indicates that technology was not held back at all. The Jedi did not try to hold back the galaxy, and they are not the bad guys here either - 4 - To say the rebels are somehow the real bad guys for blowing up the Death Star and crashing the Empire's economy would be to the same as sympathizing and siding with a rapist for his victim striking back at him to try to stop being raped. .. .. The rebels were fighting in their own self defense against weapons meant to cause as many civilian casualties as possible, not to resort to economic warfare against the Empire. Therefore the rebels are not the bad guys, and neither are the Jedi Arguments critical of the Sith - 1 - Jedi mind tricks are temporary and not painful in any way whatsoever, to the point that people dont even know theyve been influenced. The use of actual torture by the Sith on the other hand is a technique that is well known to leave lasting physical and mental pain, with its effectiveness being questionable in the first place. The Sith are clearly more evil in this comparison - 2 - Palpatine was granted dictatorial powers by the Senate do handle an ongoing war that he started in the first place just to come to power. His rise to emperor was completely unjustifiable, and to paint him as a legitimate democratic ruler of the people is to reject all of the evidence indicating otherwise. - 3 - The taxation of trade routes in the galaxy was merely the excuse that Sideous used to orchestrate an invasion of his own planet Naboo, in a political ploy to become Supreme Chancellor and seize power over the galaxy. There are far better and more legal means to oppose excessive taxation, yet Sideous subjected his own people to warfare to take over as Cahncellor. Meaning that Sidious and the Sith are clearly the bad guys in this scenario - 4 - The destruction of Alderaan was done immediately after Leia confessed, meaning it wasn't even known if she told the truth or not by the Sith at the time, and they opted to kill billions of innocent people anyways. Because maximizing civilian casualties is something only bad guys would do, the Sith are therefore clearly the bad guys. - 5 - The Padawans were at most 6 years old when Darth Vader slaughtered them. To claim that this was somehow justified because the 6 year olds would have taught others what they knew (which was nothing to begin with since they were SIX) is completely fallacious. There was no reason to kill children, and there was no excuse for it either. The Sith are clearly the bad guys in this situation. - 6 - Human cloning of troops for warfare is not excused just because droid armies could be hacked or shut down. A civilization thousands of years in the future could easily figure out how to encrypt robots from such risks of being hacked, yet the Empire chose to resort to one of the most universally disapproved practices in the world, human cloning for purposes of warfare. The Sith are clearly the bad guys for doing this, because drafting people into the army, which was a much more viable and reasonable option, was not pursued by the Sith. - 7 - The construction of megaweapons like the Death Stars and Starkiller base were done by the Sith to maximize civilian casualties, which is exactly what bad guys would do, since its preferred by people to minimize civilian casualties in battles. The destruction of these megaweapons also wrecked the economy of the Empire, which the Sith were evidently willing to risk in order to have absolute control in the galaxy. They are clearly the bad guys in this scenario- 8 - Sidious, who controlled the Trade Federation, authorized an invasion of his own planet as a ploy to seize power in the entire galaxy, which is unjustifiable no matter what the taxation scenario even was. Sidious's actions were not done for the interest of the people of Naboo who elected Palpatine to represent them, instead they were done for his OWN interests. .. For the SITH's interests. .. . They are clearly the bad guys in this entire scenario. To Summarize:- The Sith literally killed children when they absolutely did not have to or have any good reason to- The Sith routinely used torture which is far less reliable and far less humane than any Jedi mind trick- The Sith constructed megaweapons meant to kill as many civilians as possible in wars by destroying entire planets- The Sith resorted to human cloning in addition to torture and civilian killings to accomplish their own agenda - The Sith put the entire economy of the Empire in jeopardy by constructing megaweapons meant to help them maintain power- Sidious orchestrated a devastating invasion of his own planet that elected him purely for his own desires - The Jedi were not theocratic, anti-technology zealots who tried to enforce their beliefs on the entire galaxy- There is no evidence the Jedi even could have suppressed technological advancement or religious freedom in the first place- Slavery in the Republic cannot be blamed on the Jedi, nor could taxation, corruption, or any of the other things Pro tries to pin on them- The Jedi acted well within their legal boundaries in trying to arrest Sidious and try to keep order in the RepublicFor the reasons stated above and in previous rounds, the Jedi can only be seen as the good guys and the Sith can only be seen as the bad guys to any logical person.