The Existence of God

As stated, the Bible is considered, for all intents and purposes, to be a viable source. This is important, as in order to prove anything's existence you need at least one thing: Some proof or evidence that they existed. You cannot observe something that hasn't manifested its existence in any way. A1: If you are to accept the Bible as truth, then you need to observe the following verse: 2 Timothy 3:16: "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness." This verse states that the entire Bible, or Scripture, is God breathed, or theopneustos, which means divinely inspired (oh yes, I'm pulling out the Greek :P). This is that manifestation I referred to earlier. This is the only source in writing that we have in relation to God, and is therefore necessary in order to believe in him. I'm going to quote you, quoting the Bible here. "As for God, his way is perfect: The LORD's word is flawless; he shields all who take refuge in him. Psalm 18:30 The Lords word is flawless, or without error. This has yet to be disproven. This is why I said we needed to argue the legitimacy of the Bible. Since it is a source that I can use to prove God's existence, I have all I need right here. I assume that you meant that I could use it as a source to describe God? I'm not sure, because allowing the Bible would guarantee con a win. Here is one with a little less scripture. A2: How would an "anything" come to exist? Bear with me here, as it's hard to put to words. take it back to square 0. Here, Nothing exists. We know that this is impossible, because we now have something, and it is general knowledge that something can't arise from nothing. (I really hope you accept that fact as true.) Since that is not possible, we need to, therefore, accept that something, at some capacity, existed. Pretty easy. When? When did it start to exist? Well, It couldn't have started because that means the first something started out of nothing, which breaks the rules! So, In order to accept that something's exist, we need to think up something that breaks the "Rules" if you will. We need something that did not need to be created, and exists out of time, for if it exists in time, that means you can measure when it started. However, as we have already covered, the first something cannot be created, or a "Starting Time". So, the characteristics thus far, in order to logically accept the existence of existence itself, are a something that was not created, and a something that exists out of time. Starting to sound familiar? Wait, it gets better. So now we have a something, that's just dandy. But how do we have all that we have from just one something? There are two possibilites: A: The something as a lot of something, and is what we have now, in the present, just in another form. As in, it all existed at the same time. Mass is never lost . . . et cetra et cetra. B: Our something is capable of creating things out of nothing. You are probably thinking to yourselves "WAIT! Timeout, Option B breaks the rules!" Why yes, how clever of you to notice! Yes, indeed, it does break the rules. You will recall, however, that we already accepted that the something broke the rules. It needs to disobey the rules in order for us to accept reality. (See Paragraph 3). I don't know about you, But I find it much easier to accept that a something that exists outside of the "Rules" created everything, rather than believing that everything already existed for no reason, and then began to change form until we got what we have. Lets update our characteristics again 1. not created 2. exists out of time 3. capable of creating things out of nothing Or, to use different terms: 1.Independantly existent 2. Eternal 3. Omnipotent Who do we now that is Independently Existent, Eternal, and Omnipotent? I suppose you could argue "A god", But since we are arguing for the existence of 1 God, The Christian God, I am going to say that this provides sufficient evidence to support his existence. Oh, and here is where scripture agrees. Colossians 1:16" "For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him." I have decided to cut it here. I'm sure there are many other arguments out there. The loss here, by a 17 year old arguing Gods existence, should not be taken to mean he doesn't exist. It is to mean that I cannot successfully prove it to you. But hey, I'm not the omnipotent one ;D Cheers Con. Source(s): https://www.biblegateway.com... My mindddddddddd