Militant Ignostic Weak Agnostic Atheism!

I am sorry to the readers for this confusing debate ; I don't even know if this is a debate, anymore. I'll just try from the start and see how things go. o My Goal "I want someone smart to come in here and attack weaknesses in the logic of this thing, because that can only lead to good things!" For my opponent to win, he has to prove that his statements are flawless. o Militant - Two things which I have refuted: "You should believe what I believe, because I'm more right than you" "And your certainty on religions, or atheism, or others, is hurting people" This was admitted by my opponent, when he said that: " This again, I must apologize, is a flawed generalization and must be specified upon! " Here we can already see two flawed statements which my opponent ought to protect. - My opponent states that organized religion has caused trouble and then he elaborates "individuals that were religiously inspired, whole religious organizations and governments, and the ideologies themselves, all of them". Now I can't defend the teachings of Islam but I can defend Christian ideology. -"a truly GOOD person would act GOOD because it benefits others" Yes that is what my religion promotes. While atheism doesn't promote or teach anything hence generally speaking its more likely for a Christian to be altruistic. o Ignostic -"read again carefully. the christian god is a supreme being. so is zeus. so are many others. that's my point." So you're trying to tell me that Zeus and Yahweh are both called "God" ? That is not in any way debatable. -"Broader definition ? If it does not include the Christian God, I argue that its less likely." "need proof. this is just opinion. a very biased opinion considering you ARE christian. need OBJECTIVE proof." 1. I'll leave this be seeing how this subject is too big to fit into this debate. -"I do know from reasons and recent personal experiences." 1. I can't show you or prove to you what kind of personal experiences I had. 2. The idea was not to prove God but to prove that someone could "know". You said: "believing with certainty is on par with believing that you know. and we don't" So I showed that one can be certain about some things. 3."a very biased opinion considering you ARE christian." You ought to learn respect. You have a very biased opinion considering you ARE atheist. o Weak agnosticism Here my opponent is trying to prove that one can be a weak agnostic without being an atheist first. -"WA is not an argument for atheism. it's an argument against the arrogance of claiming to know something when you actually don't." To which I respond that if one was to look at things with baby eyes, one would become a theist. -"since when was popular belief ever reliable?" Now you're taking a side. - "but what is unknowable is unknowable" Perhaps you don't know what it means to look at things with "baby eyes". It means to observe everything without any personal ideas. For example if one would observe the world with these eyes, one would see that everything is created by something else so it follows that this world had a creator. Now I know that there are about a million different refutations to this but once one considers the refutations, then that person has already taken a side. Here is equations which are fond of Atheist notions: There is no God (Atheism) + Observations = No God There is a God (Theism) + Observations = God Now for your argument to work there must be no (Atheism) or (Theism) in the equation. People speak of God and all things seem to be created - Argument (Atheism) = *Buzz* try again People speak of God and all things seem to be created + Argument (Theism) = *Buzz* try again People speak of God and all things seem to be created + Nothing = Theism, you won !!! o Agnostic Atheism I think, that I by an accident answered this previously, do you see what I mean by disorganization ? Please put a title on your responses and be specific (very, very specific). I am starting to enjoy this though I do not envy the reader. "i await your (hopefully) adequate response."