Choose a Gun Resolution Debate

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I would also request that ron-paul offer me a response towards where I asked about the glitch, and strawmanning but I have not recieved a response from Ron-Paul yet, so I await his ruling. Now onto the debate! ========================NUMBER ONE========================================== What Violent Crime is Defined as In this Argument: If I may I would like to request permission of Ron-Paul to post our own debte-defintion of what we define violent crime as. However, I will post my personal/logical definition of 'violent' crimes. A. ) Crimes involving blood loss B. ) Crimes involving unjusticed physical/sexual assaults on person(s) C. ) Crimes involving the injury of an indivual, or any other crime involving a situation where assault is concerned and occurs in. If my opponent accepts this definition, then please let me know in the next round, as the next round is consisting of rebuttals, and we can use these clearly definitions of 'violent' crimes to help us simplify our arguments and center our debating around these definitions. =========================NUMBER TWO==================================== Location For the terms of this argument, we need to come up with common location, (can be a town, state, country, city, or any area that is generally valid in terms of this argument,) as if you go to different areas, you might find that results differ, whereas a more specified, or widespread location would help us simplify the means of how we will argue. For an example, I have provided a bar graph below and the link to it, that shows different violent crime ratios and frequency throughout different locations. [1] Bar Graph Number One: Different locations throughout the USA, Link: . http://www.budget.ny.gov... Website Link: . http://www.budget.ny.gov... [[NOTE: For those of you who require further clarification, the Y-Axis, (the one that is on the left side,) lists crimes commited per one thousand residents, and provides number listing all the way up to 60, the X-axis, (the one on the bottom, below the bar graph,) lists which state each bar in the graph is coming from. ]] FURTHER NOTE: I do realize this lists regular crime rates, I have provided further other images that list violent crime rates below, this is just one of a couple graphs so dont't worry. Source: This is source number [1] in the sources list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have also provided other examples to back up this argument, and to help prove my point. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: This is source number [2] in the sources list. Link: . http://www.ssaa.org.au... Website Link: . http://www.ssaa.org.au... Description: I do realize that it is confusing so I have provided this description to help clarify the bar graph: so for all of the black bars in the graph, those are violent crime rates in the USA per 100,000 people, and the white bars list violent crime rates in Canada per 100,000 people; the X-axis lists the year of this data, (data is recorded yearly,) and the Y-axis lists number of crimes per 100,000 people up to 1200. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: This is source number [3] in the sources list. Link: . http://i.dailymail.co.uk... Website Link: . http://www.dailymail.co.uk... Description: Pretty self-explanitory. I consider this to be one of the most easy to read, and more accurate in terms of this debate, and most relevant out of all of the examples I have provided. ==============================NUMBER THREE================================== Constitutionality As we all know, the second amendment, which is the right to bear arms, is the stumbling block for most debates that address the issue of gun rights. But again, I must remind our audience, that the constitution only applies in the United States of America, and yet, (not intending to rebutt here,) we have not come to terms as of which location that we are discussing and debating over; as the United States, (as the constitution only applies to the US,) is a much different situation then a place, such as North Korea. I would like to point out that until we can come upon a deciding concerning location, I don't believe that we should consider the constitution, as it only applies to one country, and the debate does not say "Choose a Gun Resolution in Terms of America", or whereas it would seem that that wouldn't make as much sense as if it had been listed in the resolution we are debating, (to see the resolutions look in R1,) as a basic guideline would of been to specify a certain location, as we are now down to 'assuming' and guessing. I also would like to say that if my opponent specifies the location as America, (which I assume he will, as he includes the constitution in his arguments,) then I would like to have a chance to post an argument concerning amendment two, however I cannot do this if we might be talking about, say Russia-as it would be irrelevant to argue about the American Constitution in Russia, as it only applies in America. ==================================Number Four================================ Crime: Concerning my opponents point, (this is a FYI, not meant to be a rebuttal, sorry if it seems that way though,) his arguments are centered around 'Guns Affect on Crime', but I previouly pointed out that the resolution is 'Guns Effect On Violent Crime', not plain regular crime. However, I offer my opponent the oppurtunity to change the argument, as I can accept the view of con on the resolution of "Guns Effect on Crime", and am open to any ideas that Ron-Paul has on this matter. Also, as a further note, it would be extremely helpfull to our limited debate space if you could post your descision in the comments section, as cmoments are unlimited space, but debate is not unlimited. If we are arguing over guns affect on regular crime, then could you please provide a chance in R3, for me to present arguments on this topic, as it would be irrelevant to present arguments about guns effect on regular crime if you really meant to put in a 'violent' before crime. Thank you, and I'm sorry if I seem to be presenting rebuttals, or in your view I'm not meeting the BOP, please notify me if you notice any flaws in my argument and I will do my best to apprehend this. Sources list: [1]: . http://www.budget.ny.gov... [2]:. http://www.ssaa.org.au... [3. ]: . http://i.dailymail.co.uk... I would like to notify my audience, and my opposition, that this argument is under the 8k limit, and that the sources list provides link to the images, not the website links, as those are already posted above. Back to you pro, and please if you wish to respond to some of the flaws, ( from my view, flaws,) use comments to apprehend some of these flaws. THANKS IN ADVANCE! !