its ok to be gay

"i have a question for my opponent. do you are about what gay men do in there spare time. " Yes, I know, cause I know many gay people. In their spare time a large percentage of them dress up like women behind closed doors while a good few are brave enough to flaut this in public. It's not ok to act like something you are not. Why dress and talk like a woman if you are not one? They don't have a womb, they can't give birth, its not ok to pretend to be what you are not, namely, the opposite sex. It means these gay people are simply delusional. In their spare time many other gay people spend lots of time researching, arguing, and promoting either among friends or even in the media that homosexuality is genetic. This is not ok, for it is a lie. There is no gene that gives a child a preference for dolls over trucks. No one is born with information about dresses, lipstick, dolls, and so on in his brain; these are social behaviours that are learnt. No one is born gay or straight, for no one is born having sex. One chooses which sex he or she will copulate with. What else do they do in their spare time when they aren't working at their jobs like the rest of us? Hmmm. .. Yeah, they bull. .. They put their penis in what's basically the excrement hole. If that's not a dirty thing to do I don't know what is! Gave gave men a behind to stole out of, not to get drilled. Thing is, if someone were to put his finger in there and dig out a peice of stole everyone would think that's nasty, yet that's exactly what gays do with their penis. Some of them even put their lips there and give a blowjob. Ewwww. Putting your mouth on a toilet? "Do Gay people have any effect on your life directly. " Whatever else gay people may do that is good for society doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not ok and is nasty. No amount of good a person does can make his evil actions ok. Pro is arguing that because gay people do many great things, and are defended by many prestigious people, that homosexuality must be ok. But skavery was also practise by many people recognized as great, famous, or prestigious in their time. Even presidents of America approved of sllavery, did that make slavery ok? No, so why should Obama promoting gay rights make homosexuality ok? He says that the constitution of the land allows it, but then again, the constitution of some lands once allowed the Catholic Church to carry on crusades to kill or torture anyone who disagreed with its doctrines. Constitutions are not infallible, and are made by imperfect men, so this argument fails. The constitution has no law against cheating on one's wife or husband, nor against telling lies, nor against eating a plate of stool, but these things are not ok, just like homosexuality. Just because gay people have rights doesn't mean being gay is a good thing. Even criminals have rights. They have the right to a fair trial, to a laywer, to a phone call, they have plenty rights, yet crime is not ok; so gays have rights too, but that is no argument in favor of homosexuality being a good thing anymore than it proves crime is a good thing. "and the " bible" the so called "word of god" is half wrong about jesus christ. Jesus christ accepted gay people for who they are, and that god loves them. " So what is your source to prove that Jesus accepted gay people? Is it not the very same Bible which you say is wrong? Funny how you try to use a source and condemn it at the same time. .. But what my opponent misses is that nowhere does the New Testament ever put Jesus in the presence of a gay person. I agree with him that Jesus loves homosexuals. Jesus loves everyone, even the worst sinner, but that doesn't mean he approves of their sins. Jesus according to the Bible, is the friend of sinners, but does that make the sin ok? God loved Adolf Hitler, but that doesn't mean he approved of the Holocaust. Similarly, he loves gay people, but here is what he says about homosexuality: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. " (Leviticus 18:22) Jesus was a Jew who obeyed the law of Moses and thus he too would have tought homsexuality an abomination. Notice also the New Testamet condemnation of this practice at Romans 1:24-28. "but we as a society have freedom of religion" Yes, we do have freedom of religion, and God gave us all free will. That doesn't mean that anything we choose with that freedom will be good for us. It certainly isn't good to have a religion that promotes its members stapping C-4 to themselves and blowing their bodies up in train stations to kill Americans. But what about the moral side? My challenge to homosexuals is this. If being gay is ok, then by what moral compass do you draw the moral line? The fact is that religion and spirituality have had the greatest impact on the development of morals through history; so if we turn our backs on these core religious morals, then by what are we to be guided morally? Gay people have no alternative moral source which is better than the word of God. Is cheating on one's spouse ok? If not, then says who? At least we Christians have an authority upon which we can say its wrong, but do gays? It seems that once you accept homosexuality, that anything goes, hence, its not ok to be gay. Its a downhill slide off the moral compass. For all Pro's talk about freedom of religion, most of the world's major religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam do not accept homosexuality. That should tell us something. Something deep inside most of us says this practice is wrong, Pro should listen. "alot of people choose not to beleve in christianity, because there teachings are hypocritical. " Pro hasn't listed even one hypocritical teaching of Christianity, he hasn't even attempted to show how its so, so does he expect us to accept his word that its so? I don't accept homosexuality because its hypocritical, in that they pretend to act like what they are not - women! In that they tend to blame their genes for they way they act, many of them cliaming they were born this way, instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. I don't blame anything in my genes for being straight. I once fornicated, and I didn't blame my harmones, but accepted responsibility. Whom you have sex with is a choice, what you wear is a choise, how you behave around others is a choice, and because most gays don't accept responsibility for these choices its hypocritical. Pro couldn't tell me what's hypocritical about Christianity but I'm telling him whats hypocritical about homsoexuals in general, though not all of them, so vote Con. "we are in the united states of america where the pilgrims came for religious freedom. " No we are not; maybe Pro is, but have never been to the United States. Debate. org has members from countries worldwide, so Pro can't just assume we are from the US. Who are these pilgrims? Were they Christians? I doubt there came here for the religious freedom to cheat on their spouses, kill their neighbours while blowing themselves up, or freedom to marry the same sex. When the pilgrims first got here gay marriage was illegal, so much for freedom, huh? Total freedom with no boundaries equals total chaos. "so i ask you this, why is being gay wrong? because if your argument is religion are argument is invalid. " Just because they are many religions doesn't mean all of them are correct in their teachings. Homosexuality is wrong according most cultures, religions, and social norms. I have shown that if all of us were gay the human species would die. A practice that could kill the human species cannot be good. It is also dirty because one is having sex with the excrement hole. It is also wrong because they are pretending to be what they are not, actling kinda like women. If one is a man, he should act like a man.