Humans Share a Common Ancestory with other Primates

Of Note: My use of apologeticspress.org has been addressed in the comments.It would be much appreciated if Pro would follow the layout I've provided for each of his points. It makes it more difficult to follow, otherwise.Finally, I would like to state that I've now had time to do more research on the subject, and have decided to switch my approach to Pro's contentions.With that said, let's get back to it!P1. mDNAI agree that all human mDNA can be traced to a common ancestor. The date of that ancestor's existence aside, it is overwhlemingly obvious that there is one common ancestor. But is that ancestor shared with primates? I would encourage Pro to show some hard evidence that would actually give us something to go on. Just because there are similarities between chimp and human mDNA does not mean that we share the ancestor with apes.Another note: I would request that Pro actually cut out the paragrpahs/sentences from the material he is referring to (or at least source the information) after each claim, rather than making a lot of different statements and providing us with a few blue hyperlinks at the end.Sadly, this will have to conclude my rebuttal on the first point, since I concede that matters such as the age of the ancestor (and thus paternal influence on mDNA, as well as Dr. Harpending's credibility) are moot.P2. Y-ChromosomeOnce again, I would encourage Pro to actually show the links between his arguments. What he originally said was, basically...a) Y-Chromosome's are strictly paternally transferredb) We match chimps pretty closelyc) We're related to chimpsThen in R2 he comes back by saying "It is not the percentage of shared genetic material that shows common ancestory. It's the shared genetic material occuring in the exact same sequences and in the exact same locations that shows common ancestory"But again, how? And where is he getting this from? He offers up a paper shortly afterwards that supposedly verifies this... but the paper says nothing on this subject. At least, if it does, I'm certainly not seeing the connection. I would love for Pro to enlighten us on this, though.Until then, there is no "proof" that Y-Chromosomes are evidence for us sharing an ancestor with primates. Since Pro has the BOP, he must prove this beyond doubt.P3. Retroviruses I will respond to what my opponent said first, then (since I definitely have space) I will talk about a few other flaws with using ERVs as "evidence" for human evolution from primates.P3a. Random = No purposeLet's address each of my opponent's major statements here. I) "Just because ERVs are functional does NOT mean that they aren't the product of retrovirus'." True enough. Of course this doesn't 100% prove my statement. But it is certainly unlikely that a viruses would randomly insert ERVs into us in the exact location needed for genome transcription. If these ERVs were an accident, then why would they be so vital to us?II) "Of the nearly 100,000 ERVs in our genome only 97 of them are active.".... Would you like to source that, Pro? You said that information came from my own paper... but the only thing I can think you might be referring to is the sentence, "114 of the ERV-derived transcription start sites can be demonstrated to drive transcription of 97 human genes..." But nowhere does it say that there are only 97 of them active...So we see that ERVs are extremely unlikely to be planted randomly by viruses. But that's not the only thing suggesting ERVs are not evidence for evolution.P3b. Similar ERVs in other organismsIf we came from apes, and apes descended from some other creature, and that creature from another... then it would make sense that all creatures would share some ERVs, with most ancient ones having the fewest, and their descendents having more as you progressively go down the evolutionary tree. However, this is not quite the case."We have sequenced and characterized an endogenous type D retrovirus, which we have named TvERV(D), from the genome of an Australian marsupial, the common brushtail possum (Trichosurus vulpecula). Intact TvERV(D) gag, pro, pol, and env open reading frames were detected in the possum genome. TvERV(D) was classified as a type D retrovirus, most closely related to those of Old World monkeys, New World monkeys, and mice, based on phylogenetic analyses and genetic organization."[2]and"For instance gamma-retrovirus was isolated from trophoblastic cells of the baboon placenta. This virus was found to be very closely related antigenically and by sequence homology to the endogenous RD114 virus in cats (which is itself unrelated to endogenous FeLV). Benveniste and Todaro observed, like we did for jungle fowl, that only certain species of the cat genus, Felis, possessed this endogenous genome related to the baboon ERV. In contrast, all species of baboons carry this virus so it would appear to have been present in the germ line of primates much longer than in cats. Thus it seems evident that a horizontal, infectious event occurred to transfer the virus from baboons to cats, whereupon it became endogenous in the new species."[3]While it seems like, at first glance, the match between our ERVs and primates' might signify something... ultimately, it does not.But finally, we haveP3c. ApoptosisBasically, apoptosis is your body's process for killing infected cells. If ERVs truly did come from viruses, and weren't planted with purpose, then your body would react in the same way that it does to any foreign infection. It would destroy the virus and all affected cells through apoptosis.The very fact that there are so many ERVs in our system shows us that apoptosis is not occuring. Thus, these cells are not infected. These cells are performing how they were designed to function.I look forward to Pro's response, and seeing if he can find linking evidence to support his first two points, as well as rebut my arguments on his third.For now, the resolution is negated. Back to you, Pro.Sources[1] http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org...[2] http://jvi.asm.org...[3] http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov...