soccer: barcelona is currently better than real madrid

Your argument seems to consist of 4 main points- 1. The fact Barcelona won a bunch of trophies in the last few seasons, which really isn't that applicable since it is on what is happening currently. I have already stated that over the last 3 seasons according to wikipaedia(the most reliable of sources) that Barcelona has seen transfer transactions at 303.25 million Euros. Real Madrid over the same time has seen 505 million Euros. Even though football players maybe over priced it is clear that the teams have changed dramatically over the past few years making Barcelona's past achievements even less useful to the current standings. As you said yourslf the new Madrid team were a disorganized team at the start and it must be remembered this is only Jose Mourinho's second season as manager. Madrid have improved considerably even when soley compared to last year. They have finderly found their form. 2. Messi being better than Ronado. Whilst I have offered statistical date for Ronaldo being better(being selected to more UEFA teams, having a greater combined goals and assits, winning acolades at different positions) your argument seems to mainly be that Messi has better footwork. It's hard to make a distintion between which has better footwork but my points clearly support Ronaldo. Ronaldo has been the top scorer in different leagues in different teams playing different positons. He has shown more versatility than Messi. 3. Real Madrid never beating Barcelona. My opponent never really offered why my Manchester City point wasn't valid as a rebuttal. The point is that the last 5 coppa Del Rey Matches between these two has seen Madrid win two games , Barceloa have won one game and 2 draws. The last time these two played it was a 2-2 draw in which Real Madrid had more shots and more posession. (1) 4. Barcelona playing "better" football than Madrid. This is another very subjective argument. I have proven that Barcelona actually recieved more yellow cards last season and Madrid consistently scores more goals showing them a more exciting team. No evidence has really been used to support the idea that Barcelona pass better or play a more beautiful style than Real Madrid. I personally find the aggresive goal scorer Madrid a better team to watch. Though this debate mainly comes down to my points which have not been refuted. 1. Madrid has a better goal keeper(Prop even admitted this "And I agree that casillas is the best goally") 2. Madrid has two world player of the years on it compared to Barcelona's one. 3. Madrid's team has consistently outscored Barcelona's even though they play exactly the same teams on a yearly basis. Proving they have a more dangerous attack. 4. Real Madrid is 7 points higher in La Liga and has a better goal difference. Yet again results of years gone by do not apply to who is currently better, the results of the two teams against the other teams in the league over the past few months does and Madrid have been vastly superior. 5. More Madrid defenders were picked by the spanish national side despite having fewer Spanyards in their defence. Basically this is not about which side you actually believe is currently better but rather who has given the better arguments, counter their opponenents arguments better and who has used sources and facts to present a better argument. I believe I have offered more to show that Real Madrid is better than Barcelona currently. (1) . http://soccernet.espn.go.com...