Incinerators (Pro) are better than Landfills (Con)

1. There have been sources which I have provided that have said that landfills and the recycling process which has created more jobs that incinerators ever will. As to your point for landfills needing less land, I see that as a good thing because the less, the less the city has to pay for it and the less citizens complain. The Hong Kong economy to how much incinerators cost there is not the same as what it would cost us here so bringing up a reference from Hong Kong is irrelevant and unless explained in thorough detail, it's just assumed as irrelevant because Hong Kong's cost for incinerators is not the same as the Untied States or Canada's. We are not talking about waste management but rather which one is better as the title of this debate suggests. Specifically on this point, were talking about which one is more cost effective. Incinerators are more costly than landfills therefore I think this point goes to me. Were not talking about costs 2. Throughout this entire debate, you felt that I ignored your points. I didn't ignore your points. I just chose not to care about them because most of the points that "Notyourbusiness" points out are almost meaningless. "Notyourbusiness" was referring to methane being a very dangerous gas but we know that landfills have methane problems. I'm willing to admit that but that's why plenty of methane extraction systems are built into the Landfill. You are confusing Landfills for dumps. that allow less and less methane to be released in the atmosphere. I don't concede to that one point just because I've said that burning trash is important. It is but to an extent. For example, flaring is also an option but it's not the same as incineration. Also for someone who claims that I'm ignoring your points, you really need to look into a mirror because how is it that you ignored the fact that we need that trash in order to reduce, reuse and recycle. That's not what waste is. All waste is is garbage and needs to be put somewhere or something needs to be done with it but recycling is not exclusive and could only be burned. There's plenty of other materials that could be recycled that don't need incineration. You've also mentioned on your rebuttal on point 2 that this is not debate about incinerators are better than landfills not whether incinerators are the best waste management method. I would like to criticize your definitions and your intentions. First of all, having a place to store waste so that it could be recycled later shouldn't be dismissed out of the debate. "Notyourbusiness" Is using very naive tactics saying that if they don't fall in line with getting rid of the trash immediately then, it should be dismissed. Let's criticize the definition of better Definition: Better (according to the Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary: Tenth Edition. A)To make more tolerable or acceptable. More tolerable to what though? So this leads us to finding commonalities between incinerators and landfill. They are both waste management methods therefore, this is both a which is better as well as waste management method. 3. Clearly "Notyourbusiness" has not read between the lines. First of all there are ways that you can be forced to sign these contracts. For example, you either a) sign the contract, costing millions of dollars more than incinerators, around their local communities, having these incinerators usually around municipal urban areas making conditions uncomfortable and the community having a false sense of achievement or the city says no to contract and they don't provide the service and sometimes, large business will threaten to leave the country in search of other countries that are willing to allow incineration. Also, unless you are living in a direct democracy which the majority of countries do not(unfortunately), it's not decided by the public. It's decided by the mayor and council members of the city(which can be bought off) and personally as a Community Worker that graduated from my program, I know what you are saying is absolutely contradictory to fact so I know what I'm talking about. Another thing to mention, you've also ignored the fact that companies have no incentives to recycle because incineration companies have a quotas that require them to burn a certain amount. They are more focused on burning trash rather than saving it for recycling which is why landfills are useful because they store waste that can be reduce, reused and recycled. 4. It's seems that "notyourbusiness" has made a quality over quantity where I take the opposite approach. The reason why it is better to have more jobs than specific jobs is because usually specific jobs have usually very few spots available therefore leaving the rest of the applicants, jobless. So it makes sense to hire people for a jobs while not specific but can get as many people working as possible. 5. I would like to mention that recycling happens before and after and not just before. There's plenty of materials that are dumped in out of pure random. Do you know how many people dump paper into landfill despite us having recycling bins? The reason for this is because people are lazy so it will go to landfills either way which is why I said before that it is a goldmine that could be used for recycling purposes. Even if there's no way to save the materials, there are many other uses for landfills other than just recycling. It could be used to create golf courses, parks, airport runaways and etc. Another thing to mention is it's not like the landfills are dumps where garbage is on the ground touching. There's clay barriers separating the garbage from the soil and plastic to protect the waste from the rain. Also, we can increase the capture of methane gas to 70% to 80% in landfills. To close, I leave you with this video on YouTube which is pretty much the points that I've already mentioned. https://www.wildernesscommittee.org... http://www.vancouversun.com... will reduce pollution from Burnaby incinerator engineer/9356442/story.html http://www.lanecounty.org... http://midislandnews.com... http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu...