Pornography should be allowed on DDO

I apologize for sending this last round late, however I had my last two final exams. 1) Concern of educators and parents and loss of members Lovelife states "If it is parents and educators that are worried about access of porn Google would pose a higher threat since you can easily search for it, and sometimes accidentally come across it. " Discussion topic "My parents blocked pornography from the website. What are some good pornography sites that are unlikely to be blocked? " There you go, now DDO poses a higher threat to access to porn than Google. Also, lovelife never specified in Round 1 that embedded pornography should not be allowed in Round 1. She only stated that: "To clarify my position is it should be allowed as long as there is a disclaimer about the content. " It is abusive that she changed her stance to "only allow pornographic links". IF there is embedded pornography, one would have to block DDO, since it would be too easy to access these embedded images. Even if lovelife is correct that it is easier to find porn on Google than DDO, parents and educators would still be hesitant to use DDO. The opinion of the public is the most important issue. Parents do not ban this since it used for research for school. The same would not go for DDO. I then go on to explain why DDO's links to pornography would be less socially acceptable than Google's ability to search for pornography. I stated that pornography links on DDO have the intention to be viewed. Lovelife stated "The intent does not matter. " Intent is very important. If I kill someone in a car accident, I might get a civil lawsuit. If I murder somebody, I will spend the rest of my life in jail. That's a big difference. One would be more tempted to look for pornography if other DDO members were discussing it and posted links. Lovelife even states:' "In that area members may ask things like why porn isn't as good for them, and other members can give suggestions and link things that they believe they would enjoy. Would be useful in the community as seen. " Now, if I was a parent that did not want my child to view pornography, I would be very opposed to these discussion threads. I will again state that there is very little or no purpose of allowing pornography on DDO. Debates rely on words, very rarely images or videos. All intellectual debates about pornography can be discussed without the explicit use of porn. Most debaters including: Mongeese, Mongoose, Wjelements, Cody_Franklin, tvellalott, jharry, Freedo, M93samman, Vardas0antras and wamba do not want pornography on DDO[1]. Even though one can easily look for links on Google that show illegal material, cause viruses defame, threaten, and harm others, she does not advocate having these links on DDO, showing her logic is inconsistence. Lovelife then goes on to state: "For non-members and extremely new members (most likely anyone that has been here less than a month with a post count below 100, who has been in fewer than 3 debates) they would be treated like minors where pornographic links cannot be seen. " This will not only lead to excessive spamming and trolling to get to the porn links but is also a new proposition that lovelife introduced that was not specified in Round. 2)The communities increasing lack of respect for this website Pornography is a crude form of entertainment that only stimulates the basic instincts. It is exactly for that reason that it is likely to go mainstream. PRO even states she would not want this. This website contains a lot of teenagers, the demographic most likely to be interested in this material. If DDO is known to have a lot of pornography on the website, then it will get a bad reputation. Mew members, those who want pornography, will stay here for the porn. DDO will provide a unique feature of discussing such material that society at large considers filth. If pornography is allowed, we cannot ban members who go here just for the porn. Lovelife does not think this will happen since this is a debate site. The mere fact that the forums features has become more popular than the debating features demonstrates this. This is why the "this is a debate site" will not be sufficient to improve DDO's reputation. It's like defending MTV's show "Jersey Shore" by claiming MTV it is a "music station" and will not degrade to "showing crappy reality TV shows". At least mafia games are seen as harmless fun. Pornography is more controversial. Lovelife then claims that youtube allows pornography. Here is a good example of Youtube banning porn. If you notice, the video in the posters link is already removed: . http://answers.yahoo.com...[2] The truth still remains that no respectable site has allowed pornography. Those that did, for example Craigslist, had it removed due to it ruining it's reputation[3]. 3)"however that is more legal conditions then DDO affairs, and I will avoid getting further into how it ought to be. " This is precisely the point. There are legal issues with DDO allowing pornography as well as social, economic and moral issues. 4)"The debate topic I had above was only an example, the members on this site are creative, and I am sure they will, together, find something to debate about with it. " Yet most debaters are against allowing pornography. I have not heard anyone complain that the ban on pornography has hampered their ability to debate certain topics. If the example that lovelife could think of was :""----seems to have bigger tits then ----in this pornographic video" shows that allowing pornography would create crude debate. This will only hinder and ruin this site. 5) A decrease of morale "Now I disagree that allowing porn would bring stupid and immature people. One could easily argue the same for forum games, yet I do not see them banned. " Games challenge you intellectually. Porn is just a basic instinct that is universally enjoyed by everyone, including the immature and the stupid. Even if people came to DDO just for games, the stupid and immature would leave DDO since they keep losing or fail to follow basic rules. Same cannot be stated with porn. "Because members were called out for making sexual remarks to other members, which is not against the current ToS, it stands to reason that even if pornographic links were not against the ToS members that try to sexually advance on others would be called out, and ridiculed. " Lovelife is referring to current DDO that does not allow pornography. Current DDO is respectful to woman. While it is debatable if DDO could be more respectable is another issue. However anhasle, lovelife, theLwerd, and belle are respectable members of the community. Future DDO, that would allow pornography, would not be. I have shown evidence of this in previous rounds. It would only objectify women and female members would be pressured to upload images of themselves. A good example of this is that 4chan. It is very hostile to female users. Conclusion: Pornography would hurt DDO in many ways. It would hurt profits. We'd lose respect. It would lead to lawsuits against members and the owners. I have shown evidence of this. It would change DDO to a place that used to be a place for intellectual debates. The benefits of porn are very nominal and the harms are very substantial. VOTE CON. Sources: . http://www.debate.org...[1] . http://mashable.com...[3]