Euthanasia

Seeing as you have nothing wrong with Passive Euthanasia that is half of my argument that you have just conceded to. Meaning that you believe Euthanasia with a certain method and circumstance is okay. As for how Euthanasia is not killing someone, let me explain. You have stated many times throughout this debate that Euthanasia is Suicide. However you now state it is killing someone. You cannot have it both ways. Euthanasia is either the killing of someone else or that person committing suicide. Secondly no one can just kill a patient, it requires the patients voluntary choice. Here is a quote from your own sources: "The law requires that a patient"s free decision has to be established before medical doctors can give the lethal injections." http://www.mercatornet.com... (This is mostly about a man who is sad his mother decided to have Euthanasia and he doesnt want to believe that its right that she could decide to end her life without his say so. However he had no right in the say whether she had to live or die, remember it was her life, hence her decision, not his. She was seen as mentally ill, however was found to have coherent choice as per the law requires. The man also states that he was not notified, well that may just simply be our communication system at fault, but not Euthanasia itself. Euthanasia is not notifying relatives, it is giving people the peace that they ask for. Simple as that. This goes on to say how can we trust a mentally ill patients free choices? By this very same logic we can say that someone depressed cannot make choices on their own. However this is simply an assumption. I would like to state the fact that seen before 1 in 5 people in America have a "mental illness". http://abcnews.go.com... So by you saying that mentally ill cannot choose for themselves you are also stating the one fifth of all America cannot choose for themselves. America define mental illness so vaguely that under the right circumstances and right questions asked we all could be mentally ill. I mean depression is a mental illness, so if I ever feel horribly sad and dont want to do anything, then I am depressed hence mentally ill, and by your logic unable to make choices. However it is our choices that bring us to the illnesses. Our actions shape our brains physically and neurologically. "Every time you have a thought, there"s a change in your brain,". In actuality we all are in a sense mentally ill, and by your stance no one can make an accurate decision of what they want. I do agree that "Free Choice" is something that is being used like crazy nowadays however for Euthanasia, it should be available to all who can be seen to have a choice. Even the mentally ill. Remember there is many types of mental illness, not all make your choices incoherent. http://www.dallasnews.com... To deny a mentally ill patient of its free choice is to deny their rights. Are we going to treat mentally ill as not human? Mental Health Therapist and the like are all people who rely on the sound and coherent words and choices of the mentally ill patient too give them proper treatment. If we can take the mentally ill's word in one department then why not the other? Even in your own sources it is shown that Doctors have to get a clear coherent answer from the patient. It is not just butchering people, instead if someone is in pain, they can choose relief. This should be allowed for all. When you hear the words "Mentally Ill" You make be thinking of a Madman killing others and cutting himself and banging his head against the wall level of crazy, however you must remember that mental illness can cover that, all the way down to just feeling sad and not wanting to do anything. Depression means "Feelings of severe despondency and dejection." (defined by google). If you have never felt severely dejected before then bravo to you. However many of the people in this world have felt this way, and by definition are all "Mentally Ill". http://www.walkinourshoes.org... So you have yet to show any reason as to why Euthanasia is wrong. You must also show why every mentally ill person cannot make an accurate choice. Remember Mentally Ill does not mean that they are insane! Mental Illness is defined by the CDC as "Mental illnesses refer to disorders generally characterized by dysregulation of mood, thought, and/or behavior, as recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, 4th edition, of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-IV). Mood disorders are among the most pervasive of all mental disorders and include major depression, in which the individual commonly reports feeling, for a time period of two weeks or more, sad or blue, uninterested in things previously of interest, psychomotor retardation or agitation, and increased or decreased appetite since the depressive episode ensued." Meaning it stretches from Anorexia to Depression to MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder) to other things. It is so vague that any study showing Euthanasia patients will obviously entail mentally ill patients. However there is no proof that you have given that these mentally ill are not coherent of their actions. You would have to that Euthanasia patients are allowed to have Euthanasia even after they have symptoms like being uninterested in things you just were or psychomotor retardation (Which affects the mind by slowing thoughts and ect...) or if someone is MPD or Bipolar. However your study grouped ALL mentally ill patients together. What is wrong with someone who doesnt like to eat to have Euthanasia? http://www.cdc.gov... In fact I would propose that the Mentally Ill should most definitely have access to Euthanasia, simple because, what if someone was depressed? What if they were depressed simply because they were always in pain, could not do anything with assistance, couldnt even go to the bathroom and much more! That would make me depressed! And henceforth Mentally Ill. Can I still choose for myself? SURE I CAN! Really I have come out of things refute, or even point out since none of my points of been refuted and you even accepted Passive Euthanasia. So for Active Euthanasia your only debate is your moral background however there was no solid fact to prove your side. And as you stated the main mental illness was Depression, but maybe they are simply depressed for reasons I stated before, maybe being forced to stay alive is what makes them depressed? I would be, after all it is like a form of torture. Constantly being resuscitated, drugged, going through surgeries, then stuff with air tubes, would make anyone depressed. I was depressed and bored after being in the hospital only for three days. I could never imagine years there! And even when someone is depressed we know we still can make choices! I wish Good Luck to my opponent! However I do hope to see a real reason as to why Euthanasia is something bad.