God exists.

1 Definition of God You can read Nietzsche in many ways; you have avoided Weber and Foucault for good reason. Personally, I disagree with your reading of him. You say power is physical because it requires external communication in the empirical world. And, it is true if I speak, I need to exert my physical organs. Yet, this doesn't entail power over other people or a causal power in producing effects that transcend me. Speaking to someone isn't sufficient for me to have power over them; previous authority must have decayed to an extent that they follow me or I must be in a position of authority which commands others in the exercise of power. Both positions require that I also be a skillful and able speaker... This isn't a debate on Nietzsche though. And in any case, this doesn't explain how the American Dream (with no physicality) has power as an idea rather than an organ which exerts itself. Power is the ability to influence or create ex materia and can be manifested beyond concrete measures. Even if these measures are supernatural and beyond human comprehension, they could still be said to hold a power as a predicate and not property of their existence. Existence must be what all things that are real are predicated on. 2. The Case For god's Existence As it was your position that the universe was perpetual, it was your BOP to demonstrate it. I was directly challenging your belief to which you reply with the tautology, 'I don't need to prove it, only maintain it'. In debating the premises about the start of the universe, I have indicated why I think it was caused. If you dispute this, which you do, you have to provide an alternative explanation to why this is this case which you blatantly refuse to do hiding under the self-imposed regularities of formal debate. How am I supposed to form premises in this round (which I will do, since it is my last opportunity) when I cannot rule out certain possibilities from it? If I had posted an argument in R2, you would have argued against it. All I have done is provide some of the premises for my argument which you refuse to argue against. As such, undisputed by you (who hasn't brought ANY evidence to this debate) I will be using the premise 'the universe began'. There is no evidence of a prior state of the universe before the Big Bang theory; Time and spatial reality can all be located to a single point before which nothing is measured. How, then, can your position be true that the universe can be proved to exist at a prior state when there is no evidence for it? That was your BOP and since you haven't done this, I am forced to write an argument without considering your entirely faith-based views. Possibility Group A1a I have asserted is unlikely given modern science and the acceleration of universal expansion, so should be dismissed on these grounds. We agreed not to cite evidence and you affirmed that this proposition was in line with modern scientific descriptions, so I will hold to it. 1b is the position you refuse to defend which has no evidence in support of it 1c is unlikely given empirical data and therefore to say true, would be a faith-based assumption Possibility Group B2a is impossible given Leibniz's Law of Sufficient Reason 2b is likewise impossible given its reliance on an ex nihilo model Possibility Group C3a The universe has existed for a finite period of time, and was created by God. (which I would amend to): 3a The universe has existed for a finite period of time, and was created by a creating power. The noun 'God' here suggests multiple positions according to how you define god and in any case the universe could potentially have been caused by something that is not-god (I still insist that you don't use the capital 'G' since we are not talking about the traditional definition of god). By using a capital 'G' you suggest the God of classical theism is the only option for the universe's creation thus reduces this position. So, the argument as far as we've been able to progress it: (following from Rounds 1-3) P1 The universe has a beginning P2 Everything with a beginning, had some sufficient power to cause it C1 The universe had some sufficient power to cause it. P3 No cause is its direct effect subject to an A-theory view of time P4 (P2, P3) If there is a sufficient power that caused the universe, it must transcend the universe (be supernatural)P5 This power both caused the universe and transcends the universe P6 A deist god is defined as one that power caused the universe and transcends the universe C2 (P4, P5) A deist god semantically equates to the sufficient power that caused the universe P7 Everything that has power exists (concretely or abstractly)P8 If a deist god caused the universe, it has power C3 A deist god exists.P3 (imp.) the sufficient power that caused the universe, was not caused by the universe