Remembrance Day Should Focus Less On Honouring Veterans

"I disagree. I don't believe that any cause is noble to fight and kill for. I am sure that veterans believed that they were doing the right thing at the time when they accepted the call to fight, but I still believe that the actions they took were wrong, and for that reason it wouldn't be morally or intellectually honest for me to thank them." So you don't think any cause is noble to fight for, well then lets take a historical look at all the causes that you must agree weren't worth fighting for, and the consequences that arise. It'll be fun on the bun! 1.The moors, who were muslims had invaded Europe, and conquered southern italy as well as Spain and Portugal. In 732 A.D they invaded France. They were turned back[1] by Charles "the hammer" (king of France) [2] , so using pro's logic France should have just let them conquer all of Europe, Western civilization would be nonexistent, and Europe whould be like the middle east, sharia law for everyone!2. American Civil War, here's another good example of the consequences of using your logic, if the north had simply let the south have its slaves, then the south wouldn't have had a reason to secede and the civil war would not have occurred. However there were 4 million slaves in the Southern Confederacy[3], all of which would still be enslaved today, and the treatment of slave was horrible[4]. They were whipped and beaten, separated from their families they could even face death if they learned to read! And yet pro thinks that it whould have been fine for the North to not fight slavery and secession, because he belives that no cause if noble to fight for.3.The Korean War was fought between what we now call North and South Korea, with the U.S and U.N fighting for the south, and China for the North. Again using por's logic we should have not gotten involved in the war meaning that south Korea would be like the north, which is not a very nice place to live, with its starvation and tolataian goverment[5]. SO SOMETIMES WAR IS A NECESSARY EVIL BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE "PEACE" ACTUALLY WORSE! "This is the crux of the issue for me. I think that instead of inspiring young people to take up the torch and fight, Remembrance Day should remind us all to reject war and see it for the evil that it is." Ok well, couldn't we thank veterans AND reject war? Soldiers above everyone else want peace! Because there the poor saps who will have to fight. "Con also mentions that soldiers had no choice but to fight in WW1, as they would have been imprisoned had they not agreed to fight. Does Con believe that one soldier's freedom is worth another's life? The cost of waging war is always too high and by agreeing to fight, soldiers condemn other young people just like them to death just because they are on the wrong side of the war." No, i think life is very valuable, and is obviously worth more than a trip to jail, but i may have understated punishment for not fighting, Great Britain alone shot 306 Soldiers for desertion[6], and this is missing the point because if war is fought for a actual reason, unlike WWI, then you will have to face consequences like the ones i listed above. So Soldiers in manny situations have a strong reason to fight."Yes, I am asserting that our allied soldiers fighting and killing German soldiers was not honourable." So useing pro's logic we should have let Hitler have his Third Reich, and his final solution (the extermination of jews). And your also arguing that are allied soldiers fighting against the axis was bad specifically due to the loss of life, and yet you'd be ok with millions more Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Gays and Slavs, being killed.Which whould have resalted in manny more deaths in the long run, For the sake of preserving life? That's very hypocritical of you. "And not to put too fine a point on things, but Hitler wasn't directly responsible for rounding up, imprisoning, and killing millions of Jews. The individual soldiers who carried out orders in what they may have believed to be the best interests of their country were. German soldiers who were young men just like our allies were roused into action and made to believe that the fight was an honourable one." What you said is completely unwarranted! You provided no sources, and only used your own warped sense of history to make your point. Of coures hitler wasn't directly responsible for the"rounding up, imprisoning, and killing millions of Jews". Thats because it whould have been impossible for him to kill all those million's people on his own, (his arms would get tired after shooting the 200th jew). It was because of him, and political figures like him that the holocast happened, not soldiers, and to suggest otherwise is silly, Canada had soldiers so did Great Britain, but no holocaust. But sure Hitler was a nice guy, i could really see how his soldiers mistook such a compassionate, kind, loving man, lets see what hitler had to say about jew's[7]! "If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have gallows after gallows erected, for example, in Munich on the Marienplatz-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged one after another, and they will stay hanging until they stink. They will stay hanging as long as hygienically possible. As soon as they are untied, then the next group will follow and that will continue until the last Jew in Munich is exterminated. Exactly the same procedure will be followed in other cities until Germany is cleansed of the last Jew!" (quoted in John Toland, Adolf Hitler. London: Book Club Associates, 1977, p.116) "Why should our Remembrance Day ceremonies and assemblies focus on thanking the men and women who fought and died for our country, while glossing over the deaths that they were responsible for? Remembrance Day should be about mourning all life taken by war, and warning today's youth not to fall prey to the warped idea that fighting in a war makes you a hero when in truth it just makes you a murderer, or a victim." Why shouldn't we "gloss" over the deaths of nazis? The rest of your statmen is pure opinion. "Are you aware that Germany also has a day for remembrance? They call it Volkstrauertag, the National Day of Mourning."It is an occasion not only to mourn the dead but also to illustrate the tragedy of war and speak out for peace." This is what I believe our Remembrance Day ceremonies should emulate."Ok, thats nice? How does that prove your statement? We could both honor our vets and talk about the horrors and loses of war, they often go hand in hand.Sources[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...[2] http://en.wikipedia.org...[3] http://www.thelatinlibrary.com...[4] https://www.boundless.com...[5] http://www.northkoreanow.org...[6] http://www.bbc.co.uk...[7] http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk...