The Mind is Immaterial, Spirit exists

1. "Who denies that when one is unconscious and that the brain can't do anything? Not me, I don't deny that at night when I'm unconscious I'm moving all already etc, but the fact is, Will is not the brain, it is immaterial, therefore the mind is immaterial. " You have to prove will is immaterial. Invalid. 2. "Exactly my point, one decides to do something and then the brain does it, something causes the brain to do it, for example right before I move my hand, I can just think of my hand an Immediately I feel a reaction in my hand before I even move it, this proves my point, The Mind is Immaterial. " What? You think to move your hand and the brain sends this information through your motor neurons to your hand and tells the muscles to contract or expand to make this movement. 3. "Complexity is an Idea/Subject of The Mind, Complexity isn't a thing, it is an abstract object such as numbers and shapes, they have no physical objectivity and only exist in ones mind, so the brain being complex cannot be the reason why, as Complexity, Numbers, and Shapes(Abstract Objects) are purely from the mind and do not exist in physical reality. " Number and shapes exist as concrete things. You're computer is most likely a square or rectangle. Every solid consists of shapes. 4. "The Brain is mindless cells, if you claim that these cells have any kind of intelligence, then they have a mind, if each brain cell was personal we'd be Multipersonal, this is not the case, as 1, we are not multipersonal and 2, Matter is Mindless" If the brain does not cause personality than how come there are personality disorders in the brain and it affects the person? How come Phineas Gage got impaled and the steel pipe went through the personality controlled part of his brain and he stopped being a model employee and no longer acted the same and had no personality? How come Alzheimer's makes us lose our memories if that's stored in our soul? It just seems material diseased seem to effect the mind and the person changes. How does a material thing effect an immaterial thing? 5. If you accept this as true, then you accept that Natural Selection didn't cause Altruism and Intelligence, in which you have to reject "atheistic" evolution, if you agree with "atheistic" "macro-evolution" you have to agree that Natural Selection caused this to exist, thus Altruism and Intelligence would be based o Survival, which means Factually rape would be advantageous to the Species. Natural Selection didn't cause altruism and intelligence, it just passed on altruistic and intelligent genes because they are beneficial to our survival. Like I explained, the rape gene would be weeded out because of the fact it puts the attacker in more risks than advantages. The rapist needs someone of a reproductive age, that will raise the child and not put the attacked at risk of harm. Plus rape is a SELFISH act solely done for the males and contradicts the altruistic genes that the majority of humans have. Therefore, because it's not as beneficial as find a mate who would consent, it was weeded out. 6. "Nope, Regeneration is cells dying and being replaced by completely new cells, Argument Refuted. " Neurons do not undergo regular mitosis therefore my argument is not refuted. 7. "Exactly, same with the hand I had in 2002, it ain't the same as the one I have now. " You don't have the same skin cells in your hand from 2002 but you do have the same muscle cells and neurons there and so therefore you will continue to feel your hand and will continue to be your hand. 8. "but black is still Something that objectively exists and has no Physical(Hear, Taste, Touch, Feel), properties, which even blind people see, which means they aren't really blind despite their eyes not working, which proves that The Eyes are really the window of the soul. " Did you not pay attention to my argument? Black is the ABSENCE of color and light. A blind person sees black because they're eyes lack the ability to perceive light and color and therefore because there is no light or color, black is what you see. Also if eyes are the window of the soul how come our inverted retinas give us visual distortion and problems? How come schizophrenia, a mental disorder, effects how our eyes see? 9. "A cue? To what? The Spirit. " Chemical cues to release certain chemicals to react and produce effects. Not to the spirit. 10. A. "1, Demonstrate why his argument hasn't been refuted point by point" My argument hasn't been refuted because you cannot refute the fact I presented. It is a scientific fact the process of motor neurons delivering the sensation to the brain and the brain interpreting it. B. "2, Prove that I lack knowledge in biology and neurology," You lack the knowledge in biology and neurology because you did not understand how the process of touch and sensation works. C. "3, show how despite the fact that The Brain and The Hand are completely different pieces of Quantum matter, analogous to the wall being distinct from my and me not being able to feel how the wall is, that the brain knows how the hand feels, which is insane in my eyes, the brain is just as separate to the hand like the hand is to the wall, matter is individual, If I touched the wall, would I be able to feel how the wall is? No, likewise my brain being connected to my hand in no way can make my brain know how my hand feels. " Your hand and the wall are not connected, in any shape or form. The brain is connected to your hand, like I said, with neurons. The neurons all connect all the way up to the brain and the brain interprets it. Outline: You have nerves. When you touch something, the nerves pass along this feeling nerve to never until it reaches the brain (unless it's a sudden reaction in which it goes to the spine). The Brain interprets this and you feel the sensation. 11. "Which I do not contend, it was tampered with, but only marginally, it still mentions Jesus Christ Crucifixion, when we saw the Greek and Arabic versions I proved that the tampering was no big deal, Josephus is Factually Valid. " Joesphus' things were tampered and shouldn't be considered a historical reliance. He writes this 60 years after Jesus' death and refers to Jesus as "the Christ. " Which proves this portion of his writings was tampered with. Josephus was a staunch Jew and therefore would NEVER call Jesus "the Christ". 12. "Most modern scholars consider the passage to be authentic - . http://en.wikipedia.org...; Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Invalid. "Talmud is valid as they did not claim Jesus Christ to be The Messiah and got this oral tradition from prior Jews, which prove the point, Jesus Christ was crucified. " ". .. got this ORAL TRADITION. .. " Do I need to say more? Play the game Telephone game for 10mins and you'll see how reliable oral tradition is. Better yet, play it for 1 week and see what happens, let alone years. 13. "You could only put John, Mark, and Luke's Gospel in 70AD or before, in order to prove otherwise you'd have to prove that The Temple's Destruction(Such an Important Event Predicted by Jesus Christ) is mentioned in The Gospels, if not they are all Pre 70AD. " Obviously the religious do not accept this, I've taken theology classes and taught the gospels were dated around 65AD-95AD. 14. "Assertion not proof. " . http://www.infidels.org... . http://www.evilbible.com... . http://www.philvaz.com... 15. I said if Jesus existed, which I don't believe he did. Besides, it does not automatically lead to an empty tomb and so Jesus resurrected, the apostles could've moved the body. People died for Hitler and the Nazi's, does that mean they taught the right truths? No. Arguments Debunked. Con has failed to provide anything I could not refute. His arguments are due to his lack of knowledge in biology, neuroscience and history.