Abortion is wrong

Secondly, I just want to say I really hope one day you realize that there is an all-powerful and all-loving God, and even though you don't recognize God right now, God is still looking out for you and loves you. Now onto the debate. ============= THE "SAD FACTS" ============= quote:"your entire list of "sad facts" can be all piled into the one very nice package: the appeal to emotion. " Obviously they appeal to emotion, but that is not the only thing they do. They show that abortion is a holocaust that is wiping out millions of fetuses every single year. People find Hitler's Holocaust very offensive, and how many people did he kill? I believe a little over ten million. More people now find abortion acceptable, and ABORTION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING ALMOST THREE TIMES AS MANY SOULS AS HITLER'S HOLOCAUST(and this only regards abortion in America) Obviously, killing unbron fetuses cannot be justified quote:"it's committed when someone "manipulates peoples' emotions in order to get them to accept a claim as being true. " The sad facts may appeal to peoples' emotions, but that was not the point of putting them on my argument. They show how many souls and unborn children that abortion is responsible for killing and obliterating, and obviously killing unborn children who have done absolutely nothing wrong is certainly morally wrong. quote: No, these facts show that you are committing a fallacy. " No they do not. How can I commit a fallacy when my facts are actual statistics and are the real calculations? A fallacy is defined as a misleading or false notion. None of the facts I presented where misleading or false, they are all true statistics. So, henceforth, my initial argument was not a fallacy. You saying that my facts were a fallacy make you commit the fallacy, for you are expressing a false notion by trying to mislead the readers from my TRUE FACTS. ======================= Whether or not abortion is murder ======================= quote: "Just because the majority believes in something doesn't make it true. " Well obviously it does not make it true. That would be nonsense. When I said my sentiment, I was just verifying that abortion certainly is considered murder, and indefinitely is so by many people, over half of the American population. So generally speaking, abortion is as a majority viewed as murder, so I would need evidence that the minority of people who think abortion is not murder are viable. quote: "My argument is that abortion is NOT murder, because a fetus is not a person. " This is most certainly a red herring. (red herring is defined as something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand; A MISLEADING CLUE) Your definition of a person is correct, but so what if a fetus does not directly conform to that definition? Doesn't an unborn fetus have the potential for life and to become a person? The unborn fetus will indefinitely be born in around 9 months and will eventually become a human, a person, and a living, breathing creation. Saying that it is not murder just because the fetus is not a person is just absurd. The fetus will come to be a person in a number of months, so saying it is technically not murder because it has not been born is a fallacy. Killing something that has done nothing wrong and has its innate rights being crossed is certainly morally wrong. You are simply confirming that abortion is not murder just because the fetus has not "officially" become a person. The fetus will become a person, and you are just using your justification of murder to make your argument deceptive to the reader, which is a fallacy in itself. =================================== Potential of fetuses' and other various aspects =================================== Your argument on masturbation is completely irrelevant. Sperm cells are continuously being produced, so you will continuously be able to masturbate. Your wasting of sperm cells will be replenished with your own body's replenishment of sperm, so when you actually want to have a child, the child would still receive the same genetics it would have if you never masturbated. The fetuses in the mother's womb can only be produced once, however. The fetus cannot be aborted once and then be replenished. When a fetus is aborted from the mother, the mother usually finds it hard to reproduce and create another child again. Your argument of masturbation is not relevant. It does not matter how fetuses could have turned out in real life. The whole jest of it is that fetuses do become people, and as so have rights to choose what they want in their life. It is immoral to kill a fetus when the fetus has not committed an act of aggression or anything that deserves to be killed for. Most women abort their babies because they simply do not want it. Is that moral? Certainly not. Just because I do not want Obama as president does not mean I have the right to kill him. Just because a mother does not want a baby does not give her the right to kill the unborn fetus. It was the responsibility and choice of the mom to have sexual intercourse, and the mom has to take responsibility of the consequences. Abortion is obviously an act of brutal violence against the unborn fetus because the fetus is being killed and its soul is being taken away. Abortion is also INDIRECTLY an act of violence against the woman. Who cares is she consents to abortion? Didn't you read how abortions negatively affect women later if life and are responsible for increases in the chances of breast, uterine, and cervical cancer in the mom? Those are all stated in my round 2 argument. Obviously, abortion is violent against the baby and mom. quote: "God doesn't exist, ergo this argument has no weight. " I would like to affirm that God does exist. So my argument appealed to mainly Christians. But also, to non-believers, it is believed that nature is responsible for the development of a fetus. If a fetus is in the womb by nature, then why mess with the intentions of nature and kill it? ===================================== Psychological, medical, and emotional aspects of abortion ===================================== It is not the choice of the mother. How about the choice of the unborn fetus? The mother chose to have sex, so she consented to the fact that having a baby may be possible. It was her choice to risk having a baby, so she cannot morally choose abortion- for it goes against the choice and right of the unborn fetus. morally- conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior Concerning the medical related aspects, it is morally wrong to have an abortion. It is not just or right in behavior to kill an unborn fetus that has done nothing wrong itself. It is also wrong to give the mother risks of developing certain diseases and having greater chances of not reproducing in the future. That is not right or just in behavior, for it is not right to infringe on the rights of others. About abortion being illegal, THAT IMMEDIATELY MAKES IT WRONG, because doing something that is illegal is not right or just in behavior. YOUR OWN ARGUMENT BACKFIRED. You conform that there are many illegal abortions taking place, so you are proving that abortion is morally wrong. I would like you to expand on abortion being illegal and why it is not wrong. ======== Conclusion ======== My opponent's argument contains tons of red herrings, and I tried to identify several. When my opponent criticized me of having red herrings, he did not expand on his idea. ABORTION IS WRONG. The innocent killing of fetuses is not right or just in behavior, so therefore abortion is morally wrong. Abortion also leaves negative effects on the mother. The burden of proof on you is to prove effectively that abortion is not wrong-trying to prove that it is right or just in behavior. Thanks