If liberals had their own U.S. state most Americans would not want to live there.

Well, I definitely have ideas on how this would work. Or could work anyways, of course to actually see we would have to test it. Anyways I thank my opponent for beginning this debate, as he has requested I will not be arguing schematics at all. With this being said I would ask that voters please vote not on what issue they personally are for or against but rather on how did the best debating in this scenario. I am going to assume that this state is of average proportions, and has an average distribution of natural resources, along with an average distribution of arable land. I will also be so bold to assume that the liberals running this state are about of average liberal proportions, this includes intelligence. I will further be assuming that this state will begin with absolutely 0 structures, in effect this state begins with nothing. Thus the first step is going to be to set up a state government. This set up would be done quite easily by a few primary liberals, however for the sake of argument I am assuming that I will be the main representative of this government. Which leads me into my opponents first fallacy, being the slippery slope fallacy. My opponent simply assumes that because liberals run this state all liberal policies will be implemented from the beginning. This is highly unrealistic and would result in the utter demise of said civilization. Even I can see this, and I am no politician. With this out of the way I propose that a basic infrastructure would have to be built, roads and bare essentials. This initial building would doubtlessly plunge liberal state into at least somewhat of a debt as this money would most likely come from foreign countries or the United States itself. At this point we have the first opportunity for companies to actually come in and do something, specifically construction companies. Liberal state would tax these companies as on par with other states as to increase incentives. It would be in these companies best interests to make smaller houses as liberal state at this point would not be of the greatest wealth. Construction companies would in turn lead to the development of close and accessible hardware stores which in turn means logging industries. The houses created for living would in turn spur the development of minor stores. Chains from the rest of America would slowly begin to pop up. At this point liberal state needs to push hard that it plans on being a liberal state, in essence liberal state would be selling itself. Liberal state above all else would promote three main tenants. 1. The government through taxation of liberal state will slowly lower the cost of health care until it is non-existant. 2. The government through taxation of liberal state will slowly lower the cost of education, until education is free. This of course means that the government will be paying not only hospitals and their employees but also education facilities and their employees to exist. This of course has the drawback of perpetuating the debt in liberal state. However it is also the first step out of debt. This would develop two new industries for liberal country. Industry 1: The health care tourism industry. My main example here will be Cuba. So while Cuba has a great deal of problems it also has an amazing tourism industry. This industry is caused by its extremely low health care costs for state of the art treatment. (Note: Liberal country would have state of the art treatment as on par with the rest of the United States as they would be hiring doctors/physicians/nurses from the U.S) This health care tourism industry would in turn lead to the development of such structures as amusement parks, and actual tourist attractions. In essence free health care would become the gateway for the entire tourism industry. Liberal state would become the state to go to for major operations etc... This idea is shown through my Cuban example (I realize Americans don't feel this way, keep in mind this is because Americans are banned from going to Cuba. Europeans on the other hand often journey across the ocean for their low health care costs.) Note: In state is free. Out of state costs are simply reduced. Industry 2: The education industry. This industry doubtlessly does not actually make a product that has monetary value. The goal of this industry would be to at the very least have schools on par with the others schools in the nation at a far lower cost. This would in turn be an incentive for incoming college students to move to the state. As time goes on, and more people enter the state taxes can be focused on developing a higher class education system than the rest of the United States. This will make liberal state somewhat like many of the now socialist states in Europe in the sense that they are responsible for educating of the most intellectual people out there. Note: Out of state still has to pay some money, it will simply be reduced from the average schooling in other states. These two industries doubtlessly would take large amounts of money to get on their feet, yet I contest that it would take much less than something like say... the Iraq war, but if these two industries were put into place they would become the cornerstones for the economy of liberal state. From here liberal state needs to once again push the fact that it a liberal state. However this time it needs to focus on the liberal mindset instead of the industries. Liberal state would need to push the difference between socialist and capitalist ideologies. As liberal state would doubtlessly be much more socialist than the average American state. The idea is this: Liberal state would reject the American dream. That being get rich. Instead liberal state would promote the idea that everyone should have the inalienable right of a high standard of living. This does not of course mean that a homeless man from another state will simply be able to move their and have a house. It simply means that that man will have a greater opportunity to become successful in this society. (Successful being defined as being a benefit to society.) This ideal would attract, as my fellow debater Kleptin mentioned, just out of college students. This idea would also attract humanitarians. It may also have the prospect of attracting some of the religious population. This would in turn lead to new ideas, new industries, and new technologies. This however is where the liberal orientated government needs to very careful. Taxation of these new industries would need to be at the very most moderate, otherwise taxation will promote people to leave the state in order to avoid taxes. In time the government will work something like this: 1. Key industries are free or low cost. For example housing, the electric industry, and water utilities should stay low cost as to dissuade entirely unproductive citizens from moving there. However industries like health care, education, and most likely transportation should remain free to residents in order to act as an incentive for becoming a resident. 2. Non-key industries will remain nearly lassie faire. They will be taxed slightly higher than the average state but perks such as for restaurants the extensive tourist industry, or for the technological sector perhaps grants to develop new technologies would outweigh the increase in taxes. Worst case scenario said industry is taxed on par with other states. 3. The state would not function on a get rich principle. But rather a high standard of living principle. This is not to say that the rich would go bankrupt by any means, simply that the wealth gap would be lower. Well, I'm out of room so thats what I'll leave you with. Interested to see what you have to say.