Ultimate Debate #4: Baseball is a Better Sport than Football

(INTRODUCTION) Thanks for posting your arguments, and I found this debate on a whole enjoyable. So, I shall start! I have started my 30th debate so if this was posted a bit late then sorry, It’s just with that 30th debate I am working quite hard and so am I on this one. (REBUTTALS) “The only time the field team gets any action is when the ball comes toward them. The team at bat is literally sitting out most of their half of the inning.” How I am not sure how you got that number, because their whole half inning is attempting to hit the ball, excitedly run and tag bases before someone tags them out, or know when to hit or not hit. So how is the team at bat sitting out half the inning? “The almost 18-minute average includes balls in play, runner advancement attempts on stolen bases, wild pitches, pitches (balls, strikes, fouls and balls hit into play), trotting batters (on home runs, walks and hit-by-pitches), and pickoff throws.” Ok, assuming I use your numbers which do not fit with mine, and then I compare them to my numbers, that is 18 minutes of baseball versus 11 minutes of football. So, argument negated because baseball (according to YOU) is still shorter. “ you cut the action down to just the time when everyone on the field is running around looking for something to do (balls in play and runner advancement attempts), you'd be down to 5:47.” Ok, so first things first that cut that you make is cutting out over half of the action! So that’s like if I said, well let’s just cut off all the time (in football) when the ball is not being run with! See? That would be unfair, because that is cutting half the action. Second things second, I thought you just said 18 minutes? “Where is the sportsmanship in using performance enhancing drugs? Now, while an actual percentage of players that use them is almost impossible to determine due to various reasons such as players denying it, players giving percentages that vary wildly, ease of test avoidance, and test refusals, it's obvious that it's enough players to skew the integrity of the entire sport as well as call player's records into question.” I will address this in multiple points: The sport of baseball is INTERNATIONAL! Do you remember our international point? So thus there are way more people playing, thus it makes sense that more people playing baseball are using drug enhancement drugs than players playing football. It is not like American Football is perfect either: http://en.wikipedia.org... We are talking about the sport in general, and so we are also taking about everything NOT in the professional leagues, and I am sure that doping is no problem there “Football, on the other hand, may not have much playtime either, but at least when the ball is in play everyone has a job to do. Even players who's only job is blocking someone, if one player is off their mark or lets their man get by them, then most likely the guys with the ball is going down.” I think you mean whose instead of “who’s” {1} When the ball is in play actually half the team is on, not the full team, since it is offense and defense. Just pointing that out. So you are saying that if I am on defense and I let one person through each time suddenly the play drastically changes? Sure…. “Each player depends on every other player to do his job.” How is that a good thing? I’m sorry, but if you depend on over 50 people obviously a person is gonna make a mistake. Remember, maybe in the big leagues it might be OK to depend on this many people, but at a young age? Try relying on 50 10 year olds! “Not to mention football is a much more technical sport, with 22 different positions, each with different responsibilities as well as 10 basic offensive plays, plus change ups like audibles and trick plays.” Wait you are con right? Because technicality makes a sport harder to learn, and thus worse! It is better to have a simple layout then have to learn too many plays. Also, having less plays in baseball speaks volumes of how good baseball is making those plays interesting. “This all makes football more diverse, and more exciting, than baseball.” We just proved on every argument how it wasn’t. Thus, this statement is now negated. “Football fans get into the game way more than baseball fans. Sure, baseball has it's hardcore fans, but they pale in comparison to football fans.” How is hardcore fans better? Imagine trying to bring your kid to a game of football where the fans are drunk and shirtless. So great huh? Football fans are obviously not family friendly. Also for adults, it is annoying when someone is yelling and screaming and painted and in your face for the whole game! “Not to mention the crowds at live games. The crowd can get so loud that it interferes with their headsets.” Again, isn’t this a bad thing? “The most baseball fans do for group enjoyment is a barbecue.” How do you know What is wrong with a peaceful and YUMMY barbeque? “When you look at a live game, or fans sitting around their living rooms, the excitement and energy is palpable.” Well, I would like to define the word palpation: “to examine by touch, especially for the purpose of diagnosing disease or illness” {2} So these fans are so energetic that they are sick...And that is good? Uh…… “Football pools circle the workplace. When was the last time you saw a baseball pool?” The workplace is a place to do work, NOT to do online games Examples of baseball pools: https://www.poolexpert.com... http://www.runyourpool.com... Etc, etc… There is more but I don’t wanna waste characters. “The stats speak for themselves. What makes a sport great is how much fans get into it, and that shows how much more fans love their football.” How does the amount of people playing a stupid online game correlate with the amount of fans getting into their sport? Huh? “Football games are much better than baseball ones, as shown in this top ten list. (3) Three of the ten are football, and only one is baseball. Plus, that one is barely on the list at number 10. Of course, just because the games are ranked as better doesn't say much about the popularity or fan base, but all one has to do is look at the Madden series and how much hype surrounds it to understand the immense popularity of football games. There is even a celebrity tournament called Madden Bowl centered around it. Can baseball say the same?” I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU OF THE RESOLUTION AND DEFINITIONS: “better sport” “"a game in which two opposing teams of 11 players each defend goals at opposite ends of a field having goal posts at each end, with points being scored chiefly by carrying the ball across the opponent's goal line and by place-kicking or drop-kicking the ball over the crossbar between the opponent's goal posts." Video games are NOT defined as a sport, for obvious reasons. Also, how is holding a remote playing the game of football that I defined? “Championship games” (whole point) Ok so you go on and on about audience and other stuff, but I feel like it is irrelevant when I point out this: THE WORLD SERIES IS BEST OF SEVEN!!!!! Compare THAT to The Super Bowl and suddenly you have a new story: The teams get a much bigger time frame to prove that they are the right team to win the championship Fans love it. Who doesn’t like heart pounding series comebacks or game seven epic showdowns? “commercials” (whole half point) I love how you totally think commercials are related to football games…..and make it a better sport on a whole...like seriously! This part doesn’t have anything to do with it being a better sport in general! Thus, take down. “The NFL takes in $9.5 billion annually, $2 billion more than baseball” Great, but it “ain’t about the money, money, money”- Jessie J in Price Tag. Though seriously that shows that the MLB doesn’t need that much money to run! “spend huge amounts of money on the sport: And that is a good thing? Huh? “Strategy” (Whole Point) I agree with you that the strategies of the two points are like chess and checkers. Football is much more fluid while Baseball is again, a thinking game. The problem with Football and it’s strategies is that it is much more complicated. The rules of football are quite complicated and hard to learn, making younger players less likely to play, and as the human body grows older it also gets weaker making football much more physically tough for older individuals. Therefore football is much less inclusive on both ends of the age spectrum. “In baseball, the game can get postponed or cancelled due to slight rain.” Yes, it is disappointing, however it adds a level of uncertainty which makes the game more interesting. No point in watch a point you are not interested in. (CONCLUSION) Wow am I tired. I would like to point some things out: -MY OPPONENT MADE POINTS IRRELEVANT TO THE RESOLUTION -I REFUTED EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT Thus, vote PRO!!!! DDD(REFERENCES) {1} http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com... {2} http://dictionary.reference.com...