Is it a good thing for same sex marriage to be legal in the US

To Nask_sk: The point of my beginning argument in the last round was to say that you have things that work for some people that don"t work for others, you still disagree, even though my example was a pill that for me and people like me, it is just fine, but for every one ells it is not fine to take, and could kill them, yes medicine as a whole is good for everyone, but for that pill it is not good for everyone, and that"s why it is illegal to take or even have on you, without a prescription. This means that this pill is harmful to most people and is only good if you are like me. Marriage can be considered good for most people, but what kind of marriage (same sex or traditional marriage) it is, is on a case by case bases, for some people having a same sex marriage, is what is best for them, but for others a heterosexual marriage is right for them. So basically I believe that the type of something that is good for people is important, and is what we should be looking at, I believe that, because that is what makes us individuals. So with your argument that if everyone a thousand years ago had been in a faithful same sex marriage I put what I said before. This is irrelevant because not everyone is LGBT, and by allowing the LGBT community to marry will not make it to where the heterosexuals will have to get married, we have enough of a population to where have not only enough kids to be the next generation of mankind but in many countries including the US, have a surplus, of kids, so we don"t need to have everyone reproducing, to keep our population in check, what we need are more homes for the kids in the child care system, (as I said in round two in which you responded with a story saying, I one knew a lesbian couple who adopted a daughter, and it was awkward when she came home with a boyfriend) I responded with saying that not all gays and lesbians hate the other gender, in fact very few of them do, (which you just agreed with me) and that story is pointless because that is only one couple, out of the 4 million in the US. So why could a gay or lesbian couple not adopt? I can"t think of any reason why not. "Besides, as you know, America was founded upon Biblical principles" I was wondering when you would play the religion card, I would like to say, so what? That was in the past and now we live in a nation that is supposed to try to separate church and state, so we don"t end up like England did and go to war against nations because of their different beliefs, The 100 year war, the Crusades, many others. Which actually might make it to where we need to have everyone on board to repopulate. There are different kinds of love, for example I love a good debate, yet I can"t marry a debate. Plus you may wish to brush off your Greece because the bible"s New Testament was originally written in Greek, where they used different words for kinds of love that the English language just roped in to one. So the version of love that I am using is the in love kind, not the, I"ll treat you right kind of way. When you tried quoting me on my views of what kind of intercourse and marriage should be legal and what shouldn"t it seems as if you didn"t read my point about Inbreeding having a probable chance of birth defects, and a short and painful life for the kid. That"s why I said I disagree with it, and that is why it is illegal. So please read all of what I say before you attack my personal moral beliefs. Thank you Age limit= 18 as an adult. About your dad I"m sorry that he lost his job, but that was because his congregation felt that he was no longer preaching what they believed (most likely on more than on just homosexuality) so you can"t blame that on homosexual marriage, because it was not what got your dad fired, it was his disagreeing with what the church believed. (I"ve was raised a Baptist I know how these things work) So no same sex marriage doesn"t hurt other people. You may note that with the bestiality section, I said "B: more importantly most animals that I know of don"t know enough to be able to give consent, according to scienceray.com (a website that tries to make animals look smart)" this is talking about how animals and human brains work differently. That"s how we survive, we may not be as good at surviving as most animals, so we created civilization as a way to survive. We think how to make a tool to get what we need, most animals don"t understand the concept of making tools, because they can naturally survive with their own unaided strengths. We think how to get along peacefully without having it be to where we just have the biggest brute making all of the decisions, all other species that live in groups, have the alpha who leads them, and that alpha is always the biggest and toughest. This is why they can"t give consent, because they can"t understand human systems, (plus dogs hump everything, you look up on YouTube, dog humps stuffed toy, that doesn"t mean that the toy and dog must get married. I should have pointed out that just because same sex marriage is legalized, that incest and bestiality have to follow, I mean Canada, Ireland, the Netherlands, others, have legal same sex marriage, and they haven"t legalized incest or bestiality, so why would America have to be the only one to go down that path, why not just stop at homosexuality, (where all of the STDs are human, and can be passed through heterosexual sex as well.) and maybe polygamy, where the risk are the same for them medically, as are for heterosexual sex. (And again on birth defects, inbreeding has the probability of birth defects, unlike normal breeding, again why it is illegal, and why normal intercourse is not) So before you say that my arguments are easy to reverse, make sure that you have read it carefully, that you understand what I have said, and that your counters, have been thought through completely. (By the way just because there are words that have only come about in the last few years, doesn"t mean that you can start making them up as you go along, if everyone did that then America would become the new tower of Babble. For the next part, who exactly did you talk to, to get them to admit that they "felt the urge to "fit in" and so they "found out" they were bi-sexual or homosexual." Most people are not homosexuals, so how would that make them fit in, so how you perceived (while being bias against homosexuals) it, was probably not the case at all. I have already covered the point about how we already have kids within the system, so instead of just having more kids, you can have more couples out their (homosexual and heterosexual) ready to adopt the kids we already have. (You mentioned destroying the family destroys the nation. I agree completely so let"s not stop couples from having perfectly good functioning families) To your answers to my questions, I have this to say, 1st you said in your opinion there should be a dominant gender in the child, although that is usually the case, it isn"t always, and as many of my old science teachers would always say, those who add their opinion to science are bias and should be discredited immediately. 2nd whether you recognize that most anti-gay activist (at least that I have talked to and that are on the news) are repeating a lot of what was said when people were trying to get married and be together with people of other ethnicity's is still a fact, that can"t be denied, in the eyes of history. 3rd Again you are trying to say that your opinion controls scientific fact, Transgender is a word, its definition is: of, relating to, or being a person (as a transsexual or a transvestite) who identifies with or expresses a gender identity that differs from the one which corresponds to the person's sex at birth. www.merriam-webster.com As for biology and phycology between men and women, the biology can be changed with an operation, the phycology has a lot to do with when your being raised, girls get dolls and stuff that influences them to be nurturing, while boys get action figures that teach them to be rougher and tougher (nature) (my source on this is from conversations with my sister who is getting her doctoral in sociology and was head of her old universities phycology club) 4th again I"m sorry about your old man, but that was his congregation who fired him, for not representing what they believed their church stands for, not the homosexuals who he was speaking out against. I have some more questions for you now" 1.Same sex marriage is legal in a few countries, and nothing bad has happened in any of them, what is the difference between the US and them that will make it to where our nation will be hurt by this decision while they have not? 2.Is it constitutional to not allow people of the same gender not to marry, while they have the majority vote, the civil rights card, and the go ahead from a supreme court ruling? 3.In some of the Middle East countries, (with violent Muslim extremist controlling the countries) they have been accused by the UN, of forcing homosexuals into pits then toppling walls on them. (mass executions) Do you agree with these actions, and if not what would your solution to the "gay problem" be? Affect has synonyms like distress, and have and emotional impact (Microsoft thesaurus) effect is just another word that works. (Nice try though) This was fun, you"re a smart guy who is pretty good at debating, but again please have fact for your argument. Over to you" (P.S I was running out of time, so I didn't have much time to proof read this round. So If I misspelled any thing I'm sorry)