LM Classic: mongeese vs. Yraelz

Let's finish this! 1. Yu-gi-oh a. Dark Bakura wouldn't appear. Why? Because Yugi is wearing the Millennium Puzzle which as my opponent already mentioned can break other millennium item's powers. Secondarily he's a game player meaning if he wanted to continue on in the world he'd allow yugi to lose thereby passing the ring on to someone awesome on my team. Finally even if Dark Bakura could try to take over Yugi, Yugi would be able to fight back. Buying my team time. Additionally the scale's powers are mildly easy to use seeing as they simply balance whatever is inside of them. Also it would make sense that Dark Bakura could use the scales seeing as he is thousands of years old and might possess the knowledge. Finally I'm the only person in this debate round proving that the Millennium Ring uniquely is hard to use through my warrants on normal Bakura not being able to. Yugi can't use the scales. b. I think my opponent is just wrong about the cards effects. He argues that chain energy did not do the effect that the card said it should. I definitely think it did, the card drained 500 life points and then by binding them with a ring. Moments later, after the ring drains the point, they are let go and they show up in time for Dark Bakura to summon some more monsters. Next Yugi would have to know how to use the Millennium ring to transfer cards to souls. And he'd have to see my team. My opponent argues collected power did more than it says in it's appearance. However if you read his source I'd argue it doesn't. It just removes equipped magic. http://yugioh.wikia.com... Plus Sephiroth doesn't have any cards equipped period. Finally my opponent states that in the virtual world Joey used trap hole on nothing in particular. I'd argue that the virtual world doesn't have the same rules as the real world and thus doesn't hold any bearing on what would happen in New York City. It's a make believe reality with it's own rules. This ultimately means that my opponents cards only work.... on monsters, destroying the majority of his strategy. c. The only piece of evidence we have for anyone using a card was when they could see their opponent. I'd argue that this intuitively makes sense, and as the only piece of evidence is devastating to my opponent. Sentry is never seen and thus slaughters Yugi. d. My opponent misportrays my argument by only citing half of it. My complete argument was, "even if this could happen we're pitting little duel monsters who can't kill one or two other duel monsters against people like Sentry and Sephiroth who have attempted to destroy worlds before." I then expounded this in my last speech to mean the duel cards would be powerless. My characters are simply too powerful to be affected. e. Sephiroth being the most powerful character of FF7 has been known to have a wide assortment of Materia. He uses the black materia to summon meteor. He throws a destruct materia at Cloud. Considering reflect is a common materia and easily attainable I'd argue he easily has it (especially when he has the incredibly rare materia). And yes, it's true, Sephiroth's Materia is magic. It however, is not a card. And more importantly Kaiba, not having a Millennium Ring, can't use his cards. This means Sephiroth casts reflect on his party thereby guarding them from any yu-gi-oh magic. Finally, Reflect bounces back magic spells. While some spells have the ability to break it those are spells that specifically are intended to negate it. My opponents cards are not. f. Sure, why not? The problem being that any use by Yugi of cards is magic. Since my opponent, in the order of things, allows sephiroth to get reflect off, this would just mean that Yugi de-spells himself. Also, de-spell destroys spell cards, not magic Materia. Speed Blitz. ^.^ ============ My opponent claims I've dropped his argument about finding my way through the maze for a second time. On the contrary I offered a pretty sweet explanation, which my opponent dropped, and will be his undoing: "Additionally he can do this using a Parabolic Arc in which he can continue accelerating. But even if I conceded he had to slow down to 1/10th of his top speed to navigate he'd still be traveling 1/40th the speed of light which would put him on top of Yugi before Yugi could draw a card." I argue that Sentry could travel in a parabolic arc. This would be easy in New York because it would just mean he travels on a circular path over buildings. My opponent never makes any response. But even if the judges aren't giving me that argument I make massive concessions in my last speech that go ignored. I argued that even if Sentry had to slow down to 1/10th of his normal top speed he'd still be going 1/40th the speed of light. This, would put Sentry on top of team Pro in less than a second, since he knows where they are. He is not obligated to travel through the maze, considering he can fly. Which means, to win this round, all I have to do is negate my opponent other claims: a. The wiki article says a serum was used on him one time to give him super powers. That's all. e. Sentry's blinding light would hit Yugi before he could close his eyes. He'd be stunned by the sheer intensity. Closing his eyes wold do nothing, which would also mean he wouldn't play cards because he is dazed. Finally, I don't think his cards do anything to Sentry since he is invisible and not a duel monster. Mind control ======== a. Evidence? This is a massive change of argument. I'm pretty sure Joey Single handedly overcomes it. b. Even if the Millennium Rod could unconditionally mind control all except others with Millennium powers, I'd argue that Emma Frost is so powerful in her telepathic abilities that she would still override it. c. Nope, not true at all. Yugi can't use cards against players, just duel monsters. And Reflect works throughout the battle. Reflect is a status effect spell, it stays indefinitely, or till a new battle. Side Note: Atem started out as a separate person and is a separate person at the end. The Hulk and Bruce Banner were never separate, same person, different personalities. Atem is illegal. d. Two minds would just make it a moment more difficult for Emma anyways. Black Alice a. My opponent attempts to argue that Black Alice can only use her powers on beings. If that be the case then my opponent is still completely screwed as it means that she steals Yugi's ability to use the heart of cards. Secondarily though I'd argue that the cards proper are Yugi's power thus she has the ability to steal those powers. I'd argue this is especially true if you're believing my opponents argument about the cards doing "things" that they don't even say they do. I'd say that part of the "hidden" clause must be that these cards are "beings". b. Black Alice most certainly did not look up into space. First, she can't see that far. Second, she was in a prison. Prisons have roofs. c. Black Alice steals the abilities of at least Yugi and probably his cards also. This quickly leads to Yugi's defeat either way. Kirby === a. Logic. What would be the point of any Kirby anime or game if he could simply eat the boss? He can't eat bosses or mini-bosses. He can't eat my characters. Bahamut ====== a. Would be a good point, except Zorc is in the shadow realm which allows the Yugi Cards to be real entities. b. Bahamut literally destroys a real city. c. The source says nothing about him having the power to destroy the world, just that Zorc tries. d. Finally Dragon Master Knight ultimately loses.... As a last note, I'd like to point out that my opponent never offers a scenario for Sentry dying. He says that Sentry will epically crash into a building but that still leaves him alive to find and destroy team Pro. Thank you also for the debate Mongeese!