BeIR/webis-touche2020 huggingface dataset:
Debate.org is part of the propagand machine because Ron Paul is not an option on this site.

"My hypothesis is that Debate.Org is part of the Proganda Machine." Proganda... propagand... I'm going to guess that you mean the word "propaganda?" "Propaganda machine" lacks a page on Wikipedia, nor does the phrase have a definition. Propaganda - the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person (http://www.merriam-webster.com...) Machine - a constructed thing whether material or immaterial (I don't feel like arguing semantics) (http://www.merriam-webster.com...) So, you think that Debate.org is part of a constructed spreading of ideas for the purpose of injuring Ron Paul? Most of what you say is irrelevant. "Why would debate.org have a huge list of people on the choice list for presidential candidate that had not achieved a fart worth of Dr. Ron Paul accomplishments[?]" http://www.politics1.com... Dr. Ron Paul had already been eliminated from the presidential campaign when he lost to John McCain. Thus, his name doesn't appear on the ballot. Because it was pretty much impossible for Ron Paul to win when the list was updated, Ron Paul didn't appear. All of the Republicans had already chosen McCain. "Why would those less accomplished people be on the list of options and then NOT have Dr. Ron Paul? He made it to the last three republican candidates." Exactly. They were part of their own miniature parties. Dr. Ron Paul decided to gamble in trying to represent the Republican Party, one of the two major parties in the United States. He lost to John McCain, so John McCain represented the Republican Party, and Ron Paul quit his campaign. http://en.wikipedia.org... "On June 12, 2008, Paul officially withdrew his bid for the Republican nomination, citing his resources could be better spent on improving America." See? He officially quit the election, so he was no longer a valid election choice, so it would be a waste of time to ask debaters if they supported John Paul, when he was no longer an official candidate. Debate.org was balanced in that only one choice was given to each political party, and the Republican slot was already filled. "Are they afaid that he will start the revolution, well they should be becuase he already had and it cannot be stopped now, it can only grow until good is brought back." He quit. End of story. So, it is obvious that this debate goes to CON. If you have any questions about what I said, ask in Round 2.
Debate.org is part of the propagand machine because Ron Paul is not an option on this site.

My hypothesis is that Debate.Org is part of the Proganda Machine. Reasons: 1. Today what sparked me to open this debate up was when I was updated my profile. I came across Presidental Candidate preference, where a long list of people came up. But to my shocking surprise, the republican Presidental Candidate for the 2008 elections who made it to the last three was not on the option list. That Presidental candidate who recieved more donations from active and un active military, recieved the most money from donations durring campianing in the history of the United States, and who got more the a million votes. That man was Dr. Ron Paul! 2. I already had suspicions of Debate.org previous to learning of the blatent bias and misleading, proganda they showed by not have Dr. Ron Paul as an option. My suspicions arose from the advertising shown on this site. I feel like I am in fox news when I come to this site. As I type this ann coulture is looking dead at me from atop the computer screen on the page. Conclusion Why would debate.org have a huge list of people on the choice list for presidental candidate that had not achieved a fart worth of Dr. Ron Paul accomplishments. Why would those less accomplished people be on the list of options and then NOT have Dr. Ron Paul? He made it to the last three republican candidates. Is debate.org helping those who are afraid of Dr. Ron Paul because he has lit the match to the brush pile of pain, frustration, theft, and abuse that the American people have built up from their pirate government. Are they afaid that he will start the revolution, well they should be becuase he already had and it cannot be stopped now, it can only grow until good is brought back.
Trump

Before I jump in, I do not support Trump. I would like to sort of break this down. Yes, he has done several no good deeds, however, I believe the media amplifies his negatives, while shying away from the things he"s done well up to this point. First of all, jobs have been coming in at a continuing growing rate. He has already surpassed 1 million jobs created since early April (currently stands at 1.7 million). The employment rate continues to stay relatively low, at around 4.1%. There is a 62.7% labor participation rate, which is starting to make a comeback from the recession in 2008. There"s also been 159k manufacturing jobs created. Overall, jobs have been growing at a slow and steady rate. Also, the stock market has been doing very well under President Trump. Since Election Day of last year, the Stock Market has gained nearly 5 trillion dollars in monetary value. The main stock that went up exponentially was Dow Jones Industrial (DOW). Their company has surpassed 24k per stock, and will continue to rise, as it has been since the outcome of the 2008 recession. Of course, it"s not that much of an accomplishment, since it has been growing at a continuous rate, but the fact that it keeps climbing is always good. Overall, I believe Trumps cons outweigh his pros, but the government is still holding up, growing in fact. And trust me, there have been several presidents that were worse than Trump. There were several presidents who owned slaves, like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison. There was Nixon who was part of the Watergate scandal, which eventually forced him to resign. Many more presidents doing way more bad things than Trump. Of course, Washington, Jefferson, even Nixon, didn"t do all that bad. No president can be terrible. Each and every US president has done bad things, yet they"ve also done good things as well. Trump is currently helping sustain our governments wealth and making more US jobs, increasing the GDP, all that fun stuff. As long as the President sustains (or increases) the US wealth, doesn"t kill his citizens, and doesn"t start a World War, I say that"s good.
If God created this world he's an idiot

"If there is a God and it's not "perfect", why even call it God?" Because its not a requirement that Gods have to be perfect in order to be considered a God.... If a Hod is all knowing, all powerful, eternal, etc then he is still certainly a god even if he isn't perfect... "Idiocy is a result of imperfection." Exactly! Idiocy is a result of imperfection, but you're arguing that the opposote is true where imperfection is a result from idiocy when there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. " I have also shown that to create contrary to ones own identity would be self destructive, thus demonstrating idiocy." But you havent shown it. You only jump to that conclusion by dismissing the much more likely scenario that God isn't perfect which would account for why the Earth isn't perfect... The fact that you conceded twice in the first round that you're not going to argue that God is an idiot and that you dont even think he's not an idiot... The fact is it's much more likely to conclude that God simply isn't perfect rather then claim he is actually an idiot simply because the world isn't perfect. Idiocy is linked purely to cognitive abilities, not the result of ones creations, and pro has built his entire flawed case around the latter rather then the former To conclude, God isn't an idiot. It is much more likely that he is simply not perfect or that his creations are bounded by the laws of physics and nature which makes them impossible to be perfect
If God created this world he's an idiot

Clearly for the purpose of this debate God's existence is implied, it says so right there in the title. the key word being "if". In R2 I stated:'Am I really arguing that God is an idiot? No. What I am actually arguing is that God does not have anything to do with the creation of this world. So in effect I am arguing that God is not an idiot. " And later on: 'I am merely asserting that if there is a God, it is not an idiot. But if there is a God and it created unlike itself, it most certainly is an idiot. ' Con didn't really have anything to argue in R2. He basically agrees with the premises:'Sounds good to me' 'Yeah its pretty confusing. ' 'Yes, its a pretty well known fact that the world isnt close to being perfect. ' I'm not sure if Con believes in God or not, but I was hoping to debate this topic with some who believes that God created this world. In R2 he makes no argument (a logical framework) as to why a supposedly "perfect" God would create unlike itself. In the beginning of R2 he agrees with the my premises, and in closing he concedes to a very similar conclusion: "The simple fact is that Pros arguments only give evidence that God (whose existence is implied) is not perfect, not that God is in fact an idiot. ' If there is a God and it's not "perfect", why even call it God? The simple fact is that Pros arguments only give evidence that God (whose existence is implied) is not perfect, not that God is in fact an idiot. ' Idiocy is a result of imperfection. In R2 I provided a theory or logical extension regarding a hypothetical situation, that being God. By using some principles of logic, I have shown that a perfect being cannot create unlike itself. I have also shown that to create contrary to ones own identity would be self destructive, thus demonstrating idiocy. My opponent has failed to refute anything in my R2 argument, as it is logically sound and consistent.
If God created this world he's an idiot

"Am I really arguing that God is an idiot? No."Alrighty then, that makes my job a hell of a lot easier"So in effect I am arguing that God is not an idiot."Fantastic :D"Therefore, anything that changes, can be destroyed, is subjected to the effects of time or contradicts any of the qualities that has been equated with "perfect" will be considered to be imperfection. I'm sure my opponent will agree"Sounds good to me"it doesn't logically follow that a perfect God would create a world with obvious imperfections"Yeah its pretty confusing. "Everything here is capable of being destroyed and is subject to the effects of time."Yes, its a pretty well known fact that the world isnt close to being perfect. "If God is perfect then by definition anything it creates would have to be perfect and not separate."Thats debatable but Ill let it slide for the sake of the debate. "My opponent may argue that there is no reason why perfection must logically be passed down through creation. or A perfect God cannot be limited to only create perfection. or God could have created imperfection of its own volition. or other variations of the same thing."All of those sound like good arguments for why God would create an inperfect world... Others could argue that God himself isnt perfect or that since death is always inevitable nothing can be perfect. ======================================================================"I am merely asserting that if there is a God, it is not an idiot. But if there is a God and it created unlike itself, it most certainly is an idiot."Just because you dont make things to be as good as yourself, it doesnt mean you are an idiot, it only means you are limited by your surroundings, nature, the laws of time, etc to how 'perfect; your creations are"A part of their identity can definitely be found in their creation"That could actually be the answer to your question. A product that is created only contains PART of the identity of its creator, not ALL of the creator's identity. That could very well be the case with Earth and God where Earth and life on it only carry a part of God's identity within it. What exactly that is though is anybody's guess although everyone can agree that it certainly isnt 'perfection'"It would be impossible for a perfect being to create unlike itself and not be an idiot"Unless perhaps the being isnt perfect or because the laws of time and nature limit a creation from being 'perfect' "It would be idiotic for anyone or anything to create unlike itself or to create contrary to its own identity, it would be irrational, self destructive and counter productive."But thats just madness. People create things unlike themselves all the time and contrary to their own identity, it doesnt mean those creators are idiots though, it simply means that they failed. The simple fact is that Pros arguments only give evidence that God (whose existence is implied) is not perfect, not that God is in fact an idiot.
If God created this world he's an idiot

I just saw a debate like this and wanted to debate this myself. Definitions: God: The Judeo-Christian God. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Create: make something: to bring something into existence ~~~~~~~~~~~~ World: planet Earth: the planet Earth Earth and everything on it: the Earth, including all of its inhabitants and the things upon it ~~~~~~~~~~~~ human race: all of the human inhabitants of Earth ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Idiot: a dolt, or dullard or one that is mentally deficient, one that acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rules: Usual debate rules. Like courtesy and no personal attacks. R1 is for acceptance. R2 is for arguments. R3 is for rebuttals and conclusion. *No devil's advocates. *No appealing to mysteries.
ban islam

Hello. I accept the debate. Initially i'd like to start off by saying that Islam is not a religion of peace nor is it a religion of violence, but I will be defending it for the sake of the constitution. Assuming you live in America it should not be into question that Islam is a religion that has its roots even here in the United States, as there are even military and people fighting to the death for the sake of the United States. Religion has its place here in America, it always has and people are openly allowed to worship. Simply put a few bad apples does not inflict any sort of generalization. In the beginning of your argument, you claim many things about the Muslim religion that are simply untrue. Please give valid arguments as your arguments have a asinine basis and to claim "Allah is fear and god of nightmares" is not in anyway prove that he is the God of nightmares.
ban islam

allah is fear, god of nightmares, king of islam.. the punishment of pain and death by the hand of other muslims.. The escalation of islams rule is terrorism, because it would eventually be implimented without possibility of decrease.. as fear is the king of islam.. a muslims punishment for not following the koran is death.. therfore there is no middle ground, a islam will escalate to become terrorism.we banned cannibalism, so as terrorism, islam should be banned..law is Allahs worst enemy, as laws exist to limit religion.. chains of a god of monsters
military draft

Con believes military draft is a bad thing and should not be legal. I will be giving the benefits of The Draft. I would like to state a bible scripture first. There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven"" A time to give birth and a time to die; A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted. A time to kill and a time to heal; A time to tear down and a time to build up. A time to weep and a time to laugh; A time to mourn and a time to dance. A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones; A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing. A time to search and a time to give up as lost; A time to keep and a time to throw away. A time to tear apart and a time to sew together; A time to be silent and a time to speak. A time to love and a time to hate; A time for war and a time for peace. 1st Argument. "A military draft is beneficial because it expands the military in size and age range. A draft provides a quick way for the military to expand its size because of the thousands of people who will be required to join. 2nd Statement- "A benefit of enlisting a military draft is to secure America's status among other nations." WashingtonMonthly.com published an article by Phillip Carter and Paul Glastris called, "The Case for the Draft." The authors state that a draft helps America remain as the world's superpower" ~Ecclesiastes 3:7~
military draft

The only point your bringing up is the cost. You have not brought up any arguments towards my other points. Though the Draft is expensive, this is the only way, if short on solders to defend our nation. Actually there are strong reasons for believing that an all-volunteer system will involve lower social costs than a system with conscription. Budget outlays will be higher of course, but this is not indicative of true relative social costs. There will be additional savings through a more efficient use of all men of draft age, including those threatened by the draft but never inducted. Many men subject to the draft have gone to great lengths to redesign their lives in order to avoid conscription. Enrollment in colleges and seminaries, employment in draft deferred positions, and legal action to avoid the draft cost society $2.50 for every $1.00 saved the taxpayers through the draft. The entire social fabric has been strained by military conscription, for in no other sphere of activity in our society do we permit such an arbitrary system of involuntary servitude. Another reason for anticipating lower manpower costs would be that volunteers are likely to have a substantially higher reenlistment rate than draftees. Thus with an all-volunteer force there will be considerable savings in training costs as a result of the lower turnover rates. With a two-year tour of duty involving six months of basic training and a couple of months of processing for discharge, the military actually receives very little benefit from draftees who do not reenlist.
military draft

I agree, there is a time for everything but this is not the time to rely on bible scriptures regarding this topic in general. Do you understand how much money it would cost for everyone(as in people who are chosen for the draft) to be funded for? Quick is not always the right way, especially for Americans. We do most things in a quick yet non efficient way. Things never get done and if they do its a half done job. Issues still occur and more problems than before will arise due to Americans quick and "efficient" ideas. Regarding your statement, I would like to point out one thing about the article you have brought up. Most of it is opinionated and not factual. If other countries see that America has expended our military, they will assume we are up to something and then form their own expansion of military. Overall, this would cause disputes and disruptions among everyone. Over time, Americans will just want to become bigger and more advanced but by doing so, we are actually hurting ourselves in the long run.
God does not exist

God wants us to love him because he gave us life. I do not worship God I have relationship with God. He is my father and we are his children. We truly have no idea what he thinks or what he wants because he made us, he made a world that works so great and with such equilibrium it is astounding. I believe because I have read almost of the Bible, Quran and other books on Buddhism and life in general. And I have come to the conclusion that the Bible is the truth and I firmly believe in the teachings of Christ and his biographies. Also I think a super-intelligent being must have created the universe, we are not here for nothing. God clearly says there shall be no other gods before me so he is not Zeus also because the Jews are his chosen people and Zeus had many children. You should just be more open minded and take the world from all points not just few. I am not a creationist and according to the bible the earth is about 12,000 yrs old. And yes thanks for the 1000 ch limit haha.
God does not exist

Oh really? Well I have 6 Bible verses that disagree with you: Job 37:16, Psalm 147:5, 1 Samuel 2:3, 1 John 3:19-20, Isaiah 46:9, Psalm 139:4. And if it's impossible to understand God because he is all powerful, then why do you worship him? How can you claim to know or understand what he wants? Are you that special? I say no. Saying he is beyond our grasp is the equivalent of throwing your hands in the air and making armpit farts. It's a cop out. You're basically saying " I have no real rebuttal but god done did it anyway." It is impossible for that which does not exist to exist. The same as square circles. Because we have only 5 rounds, I would like to pose two questions(technically 3), and I apologize if there isn't enough space, we couls always pick it up in the comments. I'm kicking myself for only making it 1000 characters. 1. Why do you believe in a God?And how are you sure that it's the Yahweh and not Zeus? 2. Why should I believe as you do? (side note:are you a creationist?)
God does not exist

God is all powerful but cannot be all knowing, if He was all knowing He would of never created Lucifer and would of already knew that plan A Israel being the beacon to the rest of the world would of failed so then He made plan B Jesus Christ. Also we are only human beings, basically animals with a language, no man can understand not a speak of God's thoughts and emotions. We truly are horrible and stupid beings that always think we can figure out God and truly get the answers yet truly it is not our job. We should focus on the environment or others less fortunate and stop pondering and undermine an all powerful God. I am pleased to hear more! When God hears the tyranny of little men He chuckles and squashes them to dust, and they are no more - Francesco Tredinari
God does not exist

I'm going to start out with some basic principles. In the law of identity and none contradiction, Aristotle said (Poor paraphrase here) that which is A can't be both A and non A. This is one of the foundations of modern science. From this statement we are able to discern truth from non truth. For example, a kangaroo is a kangaroo, and a rock is a rock. But a kangaroo isn't simultaneously a rock . By the same coin, you can have a circle or a square, but not a square circle, because that is a contradiction in terms. And by that same logic, you cannot be both all powerful and all knowing, because you can have absolute knowledge about what will happen, but then the next day, being all powerful change your mind, therefore invalidating your knowledge. It is a paradox. That which is a contradiction is a synonym for that which does not exist. The idea of God (Capital G ) is a contradiction.So when you say god exists, you are saying that which does not exist exists.Looking forward to more.
God does not exist

Thanks for the debate! You really didn't answer my questions like I was expecting. :( You can make the same claim about Socrates or Buddha not being real because you can just say someone else wrote their words or just the entire story is a hoax. All Jesus tried to do was get everyone to be nicer and give up silly possessions and give to the less fortunate. He was the son of god because he never was disapproved by our father. Which you and me have already been shunned hundreds of times. Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. The perfect lamb to be slaughter for all of petty self works. And everyone can enter the new earth. No matter your past or the color of your skin all you have to do is accept your a horrible person and just try to better because trying is all we humans can do. I hate Apple Pie. Thank you sir.