Preservation of the Qur"an

Con claim that he "dont follow the Islamic-ordained rulings on the authenticity of hadeeths and that I request empirical evidence that a particular scholar is mistaken." and i attacked againt scholars and hadith without empirical evidence. i showed you why we dont trust them and i gave you evidences, from one narrator to weak hadiths. so you take weak narretions and you picking and choosing whatever you like to prove your case. i "plagiarized from non-trusted websites", its giving you the reason why we rejecting some hadith. so you picking weak hadiths to confirm you ideas.mathematical symmetry:con claims that the quran was split into some numbers of verses. and "hence any symmetry found in the Kufah is not from Allah but from whoever split the Qur'an into verses at a later historic stage." this is the most absurd answer i have seen becuase HE cant find an answer to this mathematical symmetry. its proves that the others are not complete or less from the integrity that the quran should to be. " later historic stage" - without any evidence or proof for that. the mathematical symmetry was unknown UNTELL we discover it todays era, not only that there are many many mathimatics people wrote entire books.as for the words, in the quran there are many words with similair meaning so you picking all the words togather. many sites of seaching (in the quran) deffers, because its sometime including some words more or less,so now lets exposes your lies go to few sites becuase its gives you some time more refrences. now go to http://search-the-quran.com... count the word in the arabic to the specific words (in its root).i counted one by onethe word isa (jesus) = 25 and adam =25. zakah (in this root is mentioned 32 not 47 you pick words similair to zakah. blessings (root of tabarka) is mentioned 32.zakah = 32 tabarka = 32 so yeah you lied again. you picking other words and you know arabic so you should know what word you picking there are many similar word for blessing (fadl,rahma,sali (its in context sometimes) etc...)for the word hell "jhanam" its apperas 77, not 83, with the "sqr" its 83. you problem is you count other words. for the word "paradise" there are many words i dont know which they picked. now con trying to be clever. you mixing similar words to another one. its your problem not mine.A1:I simply stated that "collected" deffers sometime in 2 ways - the momery method and the written texts. the word "igma'" reffers to these two ways. and i dont understand why you take the narretion of Sahih al-Bukhari 6:61:521. "taking the quran" can be from oral and text.A2:bout zaid narration: Zaid didnt accept the written text unless the same verse had been memorized. the written text only found with Abu Khuzaimah al-Ansari. but many companians heard this verses from the prophet s.a.w. so what the big deal? A3: New findings of the qur'anic text fragments , moreover can be adduced to affirm rather than call into question the traditional picture of the Qur'an as an early fixed text composed of the suras we have. Nor have scholars trying to deconstruct that image through linguistic arguments succeeded in seriously discrediting the genuineness of the Qur'an as we know it."B1:sorry cant find any respond i will send some allegations here to a scholar...B2:this narration is not valid according to the rules of narration as Zuhri was not the eye witness nor has he mentioned as to what is his source of information... Moreover it also goes against other more rigorous narrations about the people who had memorized the whole of the Qur’an and did not die in the Battle.B3:Now con trying to decieve here. i already gave you evidence why its weak - its sources came from one person and untrusted one... go to this "untrusted" website its shows you the sources: http://www.letmeturnthetables.com...; so picking weak hadiths.b4:for this word in 2:259 i know dont why they picked "nunshizuha" but the 2 words are indicating the same idea and the 2 are correct, for example in surah 1 the word malek can be "King or Owner" but these 2 are correct in context and dont cause a problem. Anyway there are some points that i dont know the must admit. con gave us some weak narrations, and interpreted some hadith to his undertanding... the hadiths are dont representing in black and white. some dont mention time, context, where and in what situation in stated and some have weak chain of trasmition. this causing "contradiction and such..." im not a scholar hadith. for more research you can watch debates on preservation of the Quran such...Nevertheless the mathematical method is really overwhelming because is only has been discovered in todays era. the Mathematical Symmetry (from the first round) not just some system. its showing how its very complicated and for 1 little change (from all the 6236 verses and 114) it will be collapse - the odd & even system, the half of 57 and 2 halfs of 27s and 30s. for the words system con didnt count it properly adding or taking away some words in its root. for the hadith method its not my position and its better to go to another persons... but i think i answered must cons allegations from weak hadiths (weak narrations) or some misinterpretings. before i leavving here here more math system that proves further that its mathmaticly preserved.1 - Golden ratio (1.618..)If you dividing the chapters and verses in to value of "repetitive and non-repetitive". the ratio between them is 1.618 taking chapter + its verses = its value numberrepetitive: for instance the value number of chapter "human" and chapter "al burug" is the same value number wihich is 107.non repetitive: taking chapter 1 has a 7 verses, so its value number is 1+7 = 8. there is no another value number equals this number.So we calculating all the chapters+verses: the sum of repetitive numbers: 7906the sum of non repetitive numbers: 4885the ratio: 7906/4885 = 1.618... for another golden ratio is mentioned in hint in chapter 16 verse 18 (1.618):"and if you would count the graces of Allah, never could you be able to count them. Truly! Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." as we know there is no end to the number of golden ratio digits... sources : www.letmeturnthetables.com and sometime from www.islamawareness.net/some good site:http://www.quranwonders.com...;