Star Wars (pro) vs Harry Potter (con)

My Rebuttals: 1. It is very open to debate as it is within itself a whole other subject whether or not wizards would be able to apparate to foreign locations because, as my opponent stated accurately "a wizard attempting to apparate must picture the destination in his/her head", however apparition is described for more advanced wizards as simply focusing on where you want to go, therefore one could argue that the apparition intructors at Hogwarts told the students to picture their destination in their mind as this could help beginners and one could argue that more experienced wizards like aurors, Death Eaters and such could simply tell themselves "I want to apparate inside that star ship" and do so. Whether or not this is true is unresolvable short of asking J.K.Rowlings, author of the Harry Potter series. And it is proven in several places in the Harry Potter series that magic and magical locations are very detrimental to electrical devices. Quoting the Electricity page of harrypotter.wikia found in the sources, "Magic is known to cause interference in the operation of muggle technology powered by electricity, rendering them inoperative." 2. The barriers around massive facilities like Hogwarts wouldn't be put up by Hermione, certainly at least not Hermione alone, but by a collaboration of very powerful wizards. Assuming by standards that were established in the comments section that not only could Star Wars troops find the barrier around Hogwarts and other places, but destroy it as well, the barrier could be recast or held up by a committee of very powerful wizards like Dumbledore, Voldemort, etc. especially with help from the elder wand. The reason the barrier was destroyed and didn't come back in the battle of Hogwarts was because the barrier was only being held up by four wizards, that while these four (the four heads of houses) are quite powerful wizards they were no match for hundreds of equally powerful Death Eaters and the superior Voldemort. Once the barrier is down it must be recast, which could take a while to restore, but by then dark wizards had breached the premises and the enchantments would be useless. 3. Magic and the Force are not the same thing because, as I said, Magic only comes from the wizards: no wizards, no magic, making Force detection a different thing completely because it is just that: a detection. The Force is there no matter if there are people capable of detecting it or not, that is why it is described as always being there. But if there were no wizards, and in the time before wizards, there was no magic. I stand by these statements. As for the flickering of lights in the Prisoner of Azkaban, I've already addressed this. My opponent also claims that the Force is a superior version of magic, this may seem so because the Force is everywhere in the universe, and therefore capable of massive feats of power, but so is magic, magic is everywhere that the wizards that produce it will it to be, and magic can accomplish equally impressive feats as the power of magic increases exponentially with the addition of more and more wizards. 4. As said, a barrier reinforced by the master of the elder wand would become invincible, Dumbledore could easily hold the barrier while performing daily tasks at Hogwarts as can be seen by similar feats done by him in the past. The reason Voldemort could break through the Hogwarts barrier is of several reasons, the barrier had been previously berated by hundreds of powerful dark wizards, while the full power of the Elder wand was not extended to him, some was, as can be seen by Harry Potter using Hermione's wand in the Deathly Hallows; though it didn't belong to him; some of its powers, strengths and abilities were transferred to Harry, and also the fact that Elder wand's additional shielding produced by Dumbledore was dropped with the transfer of ownership to Draco. These types of enchantments are meant to be extended after the death of the wizard, but if said wizards wand"s allegiances are switched to another, said wand would drop all lasting enchantments, therefore dropping the Elder wand's enchantments around Hogwarts. I didn't mean for the invisibility cloak to be used in battle, but used to escape; no sentries or patrol could detect the wearer of the cloak of invisibility. In addition, Dumbledore could actually use this cloak in battle to fight, while protecting himself, while being invisible. And not all personal protective charms are like protego and work in only one direction. Protego is used often in battle because it is easier to perform and fighting usually takes place in only one direction in wizard duels, so a charm offering protection from all sides usually isn't necessary in wizard combat just because the way they do battle with one another. Even if there were no such spells, they could be invented by knowledgeable wizards, a concept I'll save for my last round. You are right that the resurrection stone wouldn't be very useful in battle; I just inserted the distraction factor as an additional weapon to be used. And yes, though it can offer useful advice from the dead, the resurrection stone would ultimately be pretty useless in a war, I merely mentioned it to address it as the third Deathly Hallow. 5. I have no real rebuttal for this as I have previously defended advanced travel of wizards to expand their travel scope, taking the fight off of not only Earth but other planets as well, this point made by me here would only hold up if the contention of wizarding interplanetary travel holds up. 6. I pointed out the ability of wizards to disable Starships as a logical assumption, not as a directly evident fact, that's why that point was rather weak, I admit. But I wasn't necessarily addressing the ability to take down entire Imperial fleets, I merely meant smaller fighter vessels, as seen in the assault on the Death Star in the original Star Wars or similar. And I didn't necessarily say that Voldemort could destroy all of London in an instant if he desired, as he would likely need help and more time. He also wouldn't completely destroy London because even when he knows Harry is there, he is far off and isn't powerful enough to destroy it far from its vicinity. He also wouldn't destroy London because he expresses wishes to not necessarily destroy muggles and the muggle world, but rather rule over them with an iron fist: them and other wizards. This is illustrated in the dystopia of Harry Potter in the Deathly Hallows in which Voldemort takes power as the "Minister of Magic" and uses this to very obviously rule over as much as possible with as much power as possible. 7. The horcruxes are, indeed, a stalling technique, but while they are so, I think they are a very good one and could play a pivotal role if handled properly. Conclusion: I'd like to wrap this up by stating that a lot of what I said here would hold a lot more weight if apparition had as much power as I believe it does, but as that is unprovable and not the subject of the debate, some sort of concession must be made. Because if wizards are capable of interplanetary travel through apparition, then they may very well beat their opponents through trickery and guerilla tactics, but if they are not capable, then this is a very uphill battle for them indeed. Technology advantage doesn't mean much when held to Harry Potter-brand magic, as previously stated. Like fighting an ocean with a flamethrower. The population advantage is very useful for the Star Wars side, but the most valuable portions of the Star Wars population are only those of Force sensibility, meaning that the fate of this war would rest almost solely on their survival, because without them, the Star Wars side doesn't hold much weight against magic, as the Force is the closest competitor they have to magic. I truly anticipate my opponent's next argument Sources: http://harrypotter.wikia.com... http://starwars.wikia.com... http://starwars.wikia.com...