Christianity Concluded

1-3. You interpret as ineptly as the Greeks themselves. "Tears The OT to pieces", MEANS : The NT has taken bits and pieces of the OT and declared it prophecy. What right does man, follower of Jesus or not, have to declare something prophecy? 3)This is pro's source and his most mentioned defense > . http://www.bibleprobe.com...... The first 19 prophecies mentioned here are from the book of genesis, written by moses. As is with every false prophecy cited up to # 46 on the list pro supplied. If you read the chapters and verses in whole, you will see not only that they predict nothing, which makes them non-prophetic, but also that they're directed at a set of people with no correlation to jesus. The NT is a twisting of words. The one i cited, Gen 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel. " Enmity means, hatred or hostility. The conversation is supposed to be between Adam and God, spoken by god. So god says; I will put hatred between adam and eve, and between adam's child and eve's child, the child will bruise adam on the head and adam will bruise his child on the heel. How is that a prediction of a coming messiah? God is telling adam what is to come as a result of them knowing the truth and being capable of death and offspring as a result of eating the "fruit from the tree in the midst of the garden". Whats illogical about my disbelief of that as prophecy? 4. If he rode in on a GIANT RED ANT, you would tell me that maybe Moses was talking about the second coming. The point of prophecy fulfillment, is to my knowledge, knowing who prophesied, & if that said prophecy was indeed the message the prophet meant to convey i. e "My child will come from darkness covered in blood from which i will remove him from the source of his life and replace his nutrition with bread from my own hand"(my own prophecy) That could mean, My child will emerge from hell covered in the blood of his enemies, i will then pull him from the grave and give him my own body. Though its meaning is much simpler im sure you can see. Now if my sons, son, fulfills a prophecy that he was meant to fulfill, has HE fulfilled a prophecy? No, No, AND No! It had nothing to do with him. You can not by any means rearrange the doctrine of someone else to fit your needs. Thats what christianity has done. d) Elvis overdosed whats cool about that? Pro is specualting and even if supported partially by scripture, scripture is still the only support for his statements. f) What proof do you have of the Jewish view? As for your other statement " this is one of the most contentious verses in the whole Bible. It does not make clear whether it refers to the first or the second coming of the messiah. " How is that any less clear than say Isaiah 53. In Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake! Put on your strength, O Zion; Put on your glorious garments, O Jerusalem, holy city. No longer shall the uncircumcised or the unclean enter you. Jesus allows gentiles, the unclean to enter zion. Just as he fulfills part of the prophecy he denies as much of it. THE OT, or to better explain, THE Original Masoretic, Tanakh, and Torah TEXTS formally written 400 bce, are inspired by the HEBREW GOD. NT IS INSPIRED BY JESUS, whom christians accept as part of the trinity, THE TRINITY being regarded as the most blasphemous idea possible by MUSLIM believers. 5)a)c) By Astral Religions, I mean, Greek, Roman, Egyptian Mythology etc. Bearing the same 12 Signs as Jesus Disciples. The same Resurrection of the Sun. Polytheism is now on a wider scale synonymous with mythology. That is means to believe it had an inherent weakness. Why run from the obvious similarities? Christianity makes up 32% of world religion and is declining, I am obviously not the only one who finds it reasonable to regard it as a false belief system. see source > . http://www.religioustolerance.org...... Islam, Hinduism, No religion, and Atheism make up over 50% of the worlds population. There are rules of worship for 2 of the 4 denominations mentioned, making it somewhat difficult to claim Islam or Hinduism. Christianity has the same guidelines as No religion or Atheism, all you have to do is accept that you are, and poof, You become a Christian. Making it an easier religion to claim. 76 % of the U. S. Population is Christian, which is approximately 8% of the world population. out of that 76%, 99 out of 100 have Christian parents and Only an approximate 10 percent of the christian population has READ the ENTIRE bible. >. http://healtheland.wordpress.com...... Only 40 percent of the American Christians can name more than 4 of the TEN COMMANDMENTS. and 12 percent think Joan of Arc was Noah's wife. >. http://www.harpers.org...... What i am getting at is, the number of Christians are the base for your argument, and that is illogical due to the fact, Most American christian skeptics were at 1 time functioning Christians, and became skeptical after seeing the facts and studying the book, not because of a deep seated hatred for Christianity. You say you've shown the reliability of the bible which is something no man has done in its 2000 year history and a completely ridiculous claim. If a rabbi of the Jewish Denomination cites a difference between Masoretic Texts, Torah, Tanakh and the OT, then the source is not reliable objectively. What you refer to AS RELIABLE is APOCRYPHA > . http://www.answers.com...... DO THE HEBREWS KNOW THERE OWN LANGUAGE? Yes, They know it well and they still live by their writing which is different from the Septuagint translation. 2. More Misinformation, not at all written from god's perspective, did you even read the passage? . http://www.christiancourier.com... "According to the superscription, this psalm is "For the Chief Musician; set to Shoshannim. " The latter term denotes "lilies" and likely suggests a particular tune to which the psalm would be sung. " As for the 7 you've cited, I read each and all have conflicting translation from the Septuagint. I'm running out of space regrettably. You obviously have not read up on Krishna. The theological aspect excluding atonement of sins but including CRUCIFIXION AND BIRTHDAY AND A FEW MORE THAT I WONT HAVE SPACE TO MENTION are the means i base the argument off of. My opponent hasn't formally addressed any of my contentions except to say they aren't true. 6. The first source you cite, . http://stupidevilbastard.com......, Your source is obviously a Christian and his analysis comes from ONE source, THE BOOK OF THE DEAD, Basic instructions before leaving earth, out of the hundreds of tombs the EGYPTIANS have, the thousands of walls covered with HIEROGLYPHS, he chooses one source for analysis which still denotes similarity. Yet when stories in the bible contradict themselves it's somehow warranted. Example, John not mentioning the virgin birth, or 4 different accounts of the resurrection. (and he didn't fish after the resurrection, cite the passage if it's true) The existence of any story that pre-dates Jesus makes it a probability, that the story was known. Couple that with a significant amount of similarities and we have a reasonable belief to think the DOCTRINE was DOCTORED. The Only source that you use to prove, the DOCUMENTS nature to be true, IS, THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. My evidence prevails in this case, MULTIPLE SOURCES of reference compared to ONE SOURCE of reference. Every similarity refuted by a close minded christian who cant read hieroglyphics, i have a source of reference that translates otherwise. Pro has been out-listed. His circles are getting smaller. Pro's case is full of straw men Pro presents double what i present and its only been 1 of legitimacy Thanks for continuation i added a psalm 69 source, as i was