The Ancient Egyptians were Black (African).

1)For his long first counter argument, I will note that about the "Ammianus Marcellinus: "The men of egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny and desiccated look."". He said "mostly". Therefore, not all of the ancient Egyptians were brown or black. He said mostly therefore "MOST OF" or "MAJORITY OF" egyptians looked like this. I would love to thank my opponent for ignoring many of my quotes except this one like the herodotus one. He really digs himself in a hole when he says that this quote means nothing because it is so obvius that it means a lot! I will so you more quotes to further my case. Egyptologist-Abbe Emile Amelineau(1850-1916):"From various egyptian legends, I have been able to conclude that the populations settled in the Nile Valley were Negroes, since the goddess Isis was said to have been a reddish-black woman." According to Maspero in his first chapter of "Histoire ancienne des peuples de l'Orient": "....According to the unanimous testimony of the ancient historians, they belonged to an African race which, first established in Ethiopia on the Middle nile, gradually came down toward the sea, following the course of the river...." Champollion-Figeac:" Dr. Larrey investigated this problem in Egypt; he examined a large number of mummies, studied their skulls, recognized the principle characteristics, tried tried to identify them in the various races living in egypt, and succeeded in doing so. The Abyssinians(Modern day Ethiopians, Eriitreans, Somali) seemed to combine them all...." Now you so me a quote from someone that prooves your case in depth. 2)For his first counter argument, I should say this, "Some of the quotes are well of topic." Such as: "Aristotle states, "The hair of the egyptians is curlier than other nations." That meant that the egyptians had tightly curled hair." What does that have anything to do with the topic: "The Ancient Egyptians were black (African)?" Really, so a man decribing an afro is an "of" topic quote? You do relize curly, wooly hair is the type of hair that most black people have right? Well how is this off topic. You are really looking bad when you say things like this, And i challenge you to confront the quote from herodotus, because if you can't i win because you have ignored so many of these quotes. 3)For the end of the counter argument about "I would like to ask my opponent who he thinks the egyptins race was.", I think that the Egyptians were half- animal, half- human. (You will know why in my arguments.) Okay you should lose because of that. The mummies are not "Half animal half man" and you have no proof to support this theory. 4)For the voters: Note my opponent's improper grammar. He is 23 years old and he still doesn't know how to spell Egyptians. He writes it as "egyptins". Perfect move when you relize its the only good argument you have. 5)For his argument 1 about King Tut, I have the evidence. The proof is http://en.wikipedia.org...... Really, Wikipedia? one of the most unreliable source ever? How about you so me some anthropoligical evidence sir? You ignore the fact that the model of him looks nothing like the mummy. For example if you look at a side view of the mummy he has a chin. You look at the sid view of the new model th chin goes in instead of out. Also you ignore the fact that king tut died of Sickle Cell Disease, a diseas that is almost only exclusive to black african populations. http://news.discovery.com... 6)For his argument 2, what does the topic have anything to do with Qustul censer? It is obviously off-topic. WHAT DOES THE TOPIC HAVE TO DO WITH IT????REALLY!!!???? You really need to read my speech again if you don't know what it has to do with my case. It is an ancient egyptian artifact, it predates dynastic egypt, it was found in the sudan(Kush,Nubia,SOUTH OF MODERN DAY EGYPT!!!!) nothing like this has been found in the delta or north of egypt, therefore(ARE YOU LISTENING?) IT is archaelogical evidence that egyptian civilization rose from the heart of africa. Thats what it has to do with the topic. Now if you still don't "Overstand" then read my first speech about 5 times. 7)In response for his argument 2, the ancient Egyptians had a skin tone that was from light to dark. Therefore, not all Egyptians were African or black. (The majority were black) I think what you are reffering to is the "Dark brown,red" colour that can be found in the majority of the egyptian paintings. http://asiapacificuniverse.com... http://www.public.asu.edu... http://www.brekka.net... http://www.hebrewisraelites.org... http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com... 8)In response for his argument 3, this has something to do with the ancient Egyptians of skin tone. The UNESCO researched about the ancient Egyptians; therefore, it has something to do with the topic. What? Could you rephrase the point you are trying to make please. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Arguments 1)This is a follow up on my number 3 counter argument. The Egyptian gods were half- animal, half- human or immortal, therefore, not all of the ancient Egyptians were African. So how does that mean they were not all africans? Obviously there was a fiew foreign slaves but the majority and ruling class were black. 2)As stated in http://answers.yahoo.com...... , the ancient Egyptians were not defined as African. And yahoo answers is a very creditable source ain't it? A website that anybody can put ANYTHING ON!!!!. I have already told you that the worldwide view today is not black so why are you using that as evidence? 3)The hair of the ancient Egyptians was similar to the whites, and uncommon to other races. It's like saying that the ancient Romans were Germans, because the Visigoths conquered part of the empire. LOL. The hair was not just only similar to whites. Wavy, curly, and straight hair are not exclusive to whites. Your name (ETHIOPIA) should suggest that you would know what most ethiopian woman look like, they have straight hair.So it does not help you to make that point because some black people have straight hair and thats a fact. 4)I would like to note that my opponent has not stated much sources, therefore, he or she could be using logic instead of facts. Most people think that the ancient Egyptians were black because they live in Africa, but this is false because of the facts that I listed. But yet I have given you old﻿ and new and you can't "show" me one creditable study that supports your view, not ONE! I gave you countless information and all you could give me was "Wikipedia", and Yahoo answers?? Really? I HAVE NO SOURCES? One point i would lie to make is that DNA(E1B1B1 connects the original egyptians, Kemites, Nubians, and people of mali(West Africa) Therefore there is dna evidenct that prooves my case. Thank You........