People who are suicidal should not be put into impatient facilities, or an insane asylum.

There are many ways to help someone suicidial.Con said "Yes, there are many methods of treating suicidal people, and those methods are being used in medical institutions just as well, albeit with strict supervision by trained staff members and in a controlled environment with less opportunities for the patient to, for example, make an attempt to overdose himself/herself with medication."These facilities do not just limit patients chances of suicide. Just about every place allows no electronics. No tvs. No cell phones. And a landline phone. There are also visiting hours. How is taking away cell phones and music things helping someone? These methods just make someone more depressed. Answer this please: Lets say i am suicidial, i cut, i hurt myself and i have a best friend who has kept me from killing myself and who has been helping me. Well i get put into a facilitie where i get no freedom to talk to my friend. I get more depressed without the things i love. No freedom, iscolated, i can not tell my friends where i am so they can come visit because i do not have their number remembered. This can seriously have an affect. As i stated earlier people do kill themselves in these facilities so obviously the oppurtunity is not limited to much. Why punish someone who hurts themself? Why not figure out a better method instead of locking them up?Suicidal people should not be isolated People do suffer from th ese disorders but as stated in the source you gave me " It is not the psychiatric disorder itself that increases the risk of completed suicide, but the combination of the psychiatric disorder and a stressor, such as the death of a loved one, separation, divorce or recent unemployment.1,9"90% of suicide autopsys find phsychatrical disorders, but it is stated it is not the disorder it self. So to help someone how do you bring back aloved one or fix a divorce? You dont. a facilitie just makes things worse. "one cannot claim they are being "locked up and not helped." They are locked up as i stated earlier, no electronics, no tv, and limited visitor hours.Sure some of them are helped but others kill themselves in the facilitie or dont show progress so really its not helping them forcing them to stay. " Here it is clearly pointed out that suicidal patients must be hospitalized due to them being and extreme danger to themselves and potentially others, which is why, as it is stated, confidentiality may be breached. Even if the patient undergoes discomfort, it is but in the most severe cases and serves only to help the patient. Hospitalization occurs when it becomes the only way to prevent a patients from hurting themselves or others, and that's why hospitalization of such patients is in practice."Now read this "Patients with a plan, access to lethal means, recent social stressors and symptoms suggestive of a psychiatric disorder should be hospitalized immediately."This says patients with a plan (suicide plan), access to lethal means should be hospitalaized. This is referring to those who are already patients and are seen with a weapon to hurt themselves or are seen making a suicide plan. So these people are already in facilities so how do we not konw the facilitie created a feeling of hopelessness?Con said "But there are many patients who are just not well enough for that method to be used and they get hospitalized, simple as that." (referring back to suicide watch)People are placed in facilities for thoughts of suicide as well so how do we determine who really needs severe help? If we just send everyone who thinks or trys suicide to these facilities without a chance to help them without taking freedom then what is the point? It can reduce the risk of suicide but take the percentage of those who commit suicide.If you read this site it will tell you that most who commit suicide or attempt are not psychotic or crazy.http://www.suicideoutreach.org...Being insane and being suicidal are two diffrent things. Yes being insane can lead to suicide but we are talking about suicidal intentions. Not things that involve insane. It is proven those who are insane often can not fucntion or reason. Those who are suicidal can reason. This is about suicidal people. People who are insane are on an entireley diffrent level. Those who are insane are not placed into the same facilities as suicidal people. Suicidal people should be helped in other ways first. These facilities take things away from people and isolate them. Those who are suicidal should be helped diffrently