Abraham Lincoln was one of the worst presidents

I seem to not be having the same problems as my opponent and I can write in the argument section. For his round 3 arguments check the comment section. Now for my arguments. 1) The Civil War WAS absolutely necessary. All of the prominent nations in the world have had a civil war. A civil war is essential because it shows where the nation is as a whole with its policies. Civil wars may be considered bad because of the bloodshed, but they insure freedoms, liberties, and most important justice for the future. I believe that a civil war is a sign of how emotionally motivated a country is. Instead of just sitting back looking at the world with a neutral eye, we have proven that we want to see change for the better. This is why I strongly support the ideas of President Abraham Lincoln and will continue to do so in the future. Whether or not our war was for the reasons that you have stated, they brought about amazing rewards that we are still reaping today. 2) It isn't only the constitution that determines who we are. Today there is only one state in the US that has the right to secession and that is Hawaii. Back then, the states had agreed to Utilitarianism thought of the greatest good for the greatest amount of people. Keeping the nation together essential to maintain security and sustainability. Abraham Lincoln was not allowing the states to secede because they did not have a strong enough case that would outweigh the nationalistic view of America. 3) "With many thousands of people dead, some land unable to even be used until it had been built up again, an economic recession, the dropping value of the dollar, and trade sanctions against states in the south, and the loss of entire industries that led to higher prices for some goods, how can you say that the country was not in shambles?" - Although these are bad, I will not even contest that, America was NOT in shambles. We were able to maintain our global position and build our nation back up. This was necessary to insure a brighter America for tomorrow, and the brave soldiers from both sides realized this and that is why they fought! That is the reason why anyone picks up arms and goes to war! To procure a better future. 4) "I have no problem with people going after their own personal interests, as long as they play within the rules and don't cheat. The president vows to keep to the Constitution and he should, not change it to how he wants it to be." No one man could cause all everything to happen, it was his party. But second, I don't see a violation of the constitution because the states came together and agreed to stay together because it was in the best interest of the nation. 5) You claim there is a difference between justice and equality. I couldn't agree with you more. However, equality can only come about when justice is present. It was justice that kept our nation together and justice that has provided us success to this day. Abe was a just man and his policies were just as well. I do not have the wrong interpretation of justice, but if you believe I do, then start a separate debate about it or bring up your own interpretation of justice. I would gladly argue this. 6) Cicero was around thousands of years before the US. He was talking about how any time freedom is fought for, that is is that much stronger in the future. 7) I am not a "true" moderate because there is no such thing. I am a moderate and you are republican in your views. I have no problem with that. My problem is the word "true". Thanks! - Matt