hulk is better than the silver surfer/others with the power cosmic

Introduction: Hi DDO. Before we continue, I would like to address my opponent on the definition of better. “Firstly I would like to clarify the definition of ‘better’ for it can mean many different things, for example better could mean: stronger, more powerful (which comes with its own host of problems), or has won more battles. In this debate I would like to define better as the more achievements like battles or feats of strength, intelligence, or speed.” In my personal opinion, this definition is very flawed, as winning more “battles” or feats of “strength” does not necessarily make a character or a human better. For example, Squirrel Girl, a Marvel character has beaten Wolverine, Deadpool and Doctor Doom {1} in battle. That does not make Squirrel Girl better, now does it? I will also be bolding key parts of my opponents arguments in my rebuttal. Rebuttals: “my first point is bruce banner, sure he is smart I guess but he is a half of the hulk that can't be taken away he is weak and useless “ No… Just… No. Bruce Banner is not only smart, he is listed as one of the eight smartest people in the marvel universe. It is listed that he has “Super Genius” intelligence, putting him on par with Tony Stark, Reed Richards and the Black Panther. {2} Bruce Banner is also the inventor of many powerful gadgets, which include but are not limited to: A Gamma/Old Power shield that can protect him from attacks done by the Juggernaut and Skaar (The Hulk’s son.) who are both class 100 strength characters. He can also use this as an offensive weapon that will increase his strength temporarily so he could redirect the attack. A taser powered by the Old Power, which has to be measured using the RICHTER scale. A teleporter {2} So no, he is not useless. “here is an example the planet hulk/the world war hulk's in those bruce and the hulk agreed to work together but why has this never been used anywhere else?” As someone who has READ both of those, no, it was the Hulk in control for the entirety of the time on Sakaar and during his conquest of Manhattan (Except for a very brief period of struggle between the Hulk and Banner for control of the body.) “survival without working together they could have died proving that on earth were they do not do that the hulk is weaker than when he was on Sakaar even when he was king of the planet and happy with his wife and child on the way he is still stronger than the hulk could be. “ I will just assume you are referring to the Silver Surfer when you say “he”, anyways… As proven just before, Bruce Banner and the Hulk did NOT work together despite my opponent's weak claims. That must mean that the Hulk survived without Banner’s help. My opponent also makes a mistake, by trying to make a connection between the location of the Hulk and his strength. Instead, the Hulk’s strength is connected to A) What personality of the Hulk is in control (i.e World-Breaker, Joe Fixit, etc.) B) How angry he is. I also don’t think that this point really goes against the Hulk. Finally, my opponent makes no attempt to explain if the Silver Surfer is stronger, instead he just flatly says that the Silver Surfer is stronger, giving NO evidence to prove it. “So the silver surfer might not beat the planet hulk version but hulk at any other time in marvel the hulk would easily loose to the power cosmic. “ Again, my opponent makes a claim with no factual basis, simply saying that the Silver Surfer (and other individuals with the Power Cosmic would beat the Hulk. Also, he even ADMITS that the Hulk may win in his World-Breaker Personality. Ladies and Gentlemen, that sounds like a dropped argument to me. That is all for now. DarthKirones. Sources: {1}http://marvel.wikia.com... {2}http://marvel.wikia.com...