The User known as KhaosMage should not be branded a troll

Rebuttals: Facetious: 1. "The debate "The Color Yellow is Gay" is, by Con's admission, "not very serious", ergo, my participation in the debate is not facetious." I wasn't arguing you were being facetious, but that your character shows a genuine need to have a facetious character of not treating serious matters appropriately in an intentional way. Therefore shows Khaos Mage has a need to be facetious without knowing he is. 2. Now, let's look at my OP in my thread "Why do young males lack brotherly love?".... "I figured I'd post this topic as it has caught my interest here recently. Not just from my own experience, but from what I have observed in America's society. When I was a kid, I was what you would consider a loner. Now despite this, I was sociable and did have friends of the same sex. The difference between others and I was, I didn't have no close friends. As I grew up, I noticed I was much different from all the other boys as they seemed to be very stereotypical to me (perhaps they were). The problem was I drew a lot of unwanted attention to myself as well as a few other kids I knew. This lead to me being bullied here and there. Eventually, this became much more prevalent as I went into higher grades. So, you would think I hold this view young males lack brotherly love just because of my personal struggles in school. Though when I look back at when I was growing up, I noticed many of the kids I knew growing up parted ways more and more as they got older. Oddly enough the same couldn't be said when it came to the girls I knew. They seemed to stick together while the males were more separative from each other. To make matters worse, it seemed males lacked any kind of sympathy for each other. For example, I remember many of males who were friends that would screw each other over in a heart beat for their own sake or wants. Then after they would do something like start some rumor to humiliate the person, or steal the guy's girlfriend, they'd feel no remorse for their actions. It's really hard for me to understand how people can be so cruel without having any kind of hardship about what they have just done. Have any of you experienced this personally or observantly? May I also ask why it seemed the educational system was much more focused on girls than it was on boys? Of course, I am talking about from 1991 to 1997. Well, even after those years too. I just don't see where one gender is more important than the other or why honorable men are being lead to extinction. Now maybe some of you think this idea is kind of extreme, but the society in which we are creating will inevitably make this happen. The only way these trends can be reversed is if people stop focusing so much on women, but also focusing equally on men's issues. This means starting all the way from the bottom in elementary school. Not to mention, parents paying more attention to their kids during their developmental years. There is plenty more I could add to this, but I'll leave the rest for the discussion. " ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Now, do any of you interpret this as this....... "It would help if you define friends and brotherly love. I have noticed that "friends" is a loose term people like to throw around. In about 2006 or so, I knew a teen girl who tried to jump off a bridge. She was shocked that not one of her dozens of friends ever called her or came to the hospital. I wasn't. Because her friends were people she hung out with (and had sex with, and partied with, and did drugs with). There was no bond. So, to answer your question, women stick together more likely because they are more likely to bond with others. Men are not. Men are also more likely to be greedy and sell out another friend (i.e. screw them over), while women are not. Keeping in mind that teenage years are difficult for teens mentally given their numerous changes, both physiologically and mentally. I, personally, switched groups of friends at least four times from 5th grade on. I went from the people I lived near, to the people I got along with (because I could bike across town), to the NEW people I had more in common with as I discovered myself, to the NEW people I found to be part of MY group. Why should there be love between people who burned you?" It's obvious I explained these guys who I explained were "friends".. Seen each other as friends, just that they had internal issues whether it was the cause of society or because of their own personal problems. Furthermore, I was attempting to make a direct link between the changes in boys behavior to the way society has changed it's view on gender importance. This being said, shows Khaos Mage as being both ignorant and facetious because of his lack of understanding (misinterpretation) and facetious because he expressed how issues like this where someone is being bullied is usually because they are a glutton for punishment and are just doing it for attention. Which adds insult to injury especially when you consider how I explained I was bullied and not treated right in school. Therefore, without any kind of specific disclaimer, his views and opinions are very vague, ignorant, and facetious. This also shows Khaos Mage as displaying low quality posts on at least this thread of mine. Though of course like I said, when ever he'd show up where I'd comment he do the same thing and never at least once find a general similar understanding between us to show some respect. Furthermore, let's look at this response Khaos Mage gave in round 2... "Further, what Con overlooks is the fact that I have had a few dealings with him, and I am sure I come across as turse, because I DON'T FEEL LIKE INVESTING hours for SOMEONE who seems INCAPABLE of a SIMPLE DISCUSSION because he takes offense too quickly or does not address key concepts, like definitions or facts." This is a display of ignorance in it's self and shows he doesn't even value taking things seriously if there isn't a clear understanding between him and someone else. Which shows what I am saying is true because the character I portrayed of Khaos Mage is what comes with immaturity. It is simple as that. Lastly, he was the one who cited the definition of a troll and I used that definition clearly. We agreed upon the circumstances of this debate and last but not least, this debate is about KHAOS MAGE'S CHARACTER, not MINE! The truth rests with Con! Khaos Mage is a troll in regards to his relationship with Haroush!