The Existence of The Christian God

Note: I am writing this after I typing my rebuttals. I just remembered that one of the rules was that Round 2 is for arguments only. I don't want to delete all of that and write a new thing for arguments only, so I am leaving it there. Forgive me! Point #1 "Since God is perfect, it cannot create imperfect things thus losing its perfection." God created everything perfect, without any flaw. Part of the perfection of his creation is that man had free-will, and thus could corrupt the world. "Since perfect things are unlikely to exist and God is a perfect thing, it follows that it is unlikely that God exists." This is completely illogical. You cannot apply human standards like that to God Almighty. "God is a perfect being that created the universe." Yes. "If God exists, then the world is perfect before the creation of the universe." The world didn't exist before the creation of the Universe. "God would not make the world worse in virtue of his moral perfection." See the first sentence I typed out. "If God exists, then the world is perfect during and after the creation of the universe." You have to assume God's intention in creating the Universe to say this and/or see first sentence. "If God exists, then the world is perfect." You have to assume God's intention in creating the Universe to say this and/or see first sentence. "The world is imperfect." Yes. "Therefore, God does not exist." You have to assume God's intention in creating the Universe to say this and/or see the first sentence. Point #2 "Since God has all of men's knowledge and more, he must know lust and envy. But to say God has known lust and envy is to say that God has had the feelings of lust and envy. But this is incompatible with God's moral goodness. Hence God does not exist." Since God is omnipotent, he has the power to understand what the feelings of immoral actions are without doing them. "If God exists, God has not had the feelings of lust or envy therefore not intruding on his moral existence." Yes. "If God exists, God exists as a being who knows at least everything man knows and more." Yes. "If God exists as a being who knows at least everything man knows, God knows lust and envy." Yes. "If God knows lust and envy, God has had the feelings of lust and envy." Since God is omnipotent[1], he has the power to understand what the feelings of immoral actions are without doing them. "God does not exist." Not everything you said above is true, thus the foundation for this conclusion is broken. Point #3 "In order to have free will, you must have more than one option, each of which is choice. This means that before you make a choice, there must be a state of uncertainty during a period of potential: you cannot know the future. Even if you think you can predict your decision, you can never know with entire certainty what the future holds since you have free-will. A being who knows everything can have no "state of uncertainty." It knows its choices in advance. This means that it has no potential to avoid its choices, and therefore lacks free will. Since a being that lacks free will is not a personal being, a personal being who knows everything cannot exist. Therefore, the Christian God does not exist." God created time, thus he exists outside the bound of it. Since he is not under the laws of time, and is omnipresent, he is thus in all places, at all time periods, all the time. He's not making a choice, even though he knows what will happen: From the perspective from a being that exists outside of time, it already happened. God makes his own choices, and he already made them all. [1] - Omnipotence is the ability to do anything. "Anything" includes things we cannot wrap our heads around. Since God created the laws of logic, he exists outside of them, and can thus do things that we call "logical" and "illogical". If he cannot do things we cannot compehend (Like lifting an unliftable rock), then God is not omnipotent. To say God cannot lift an unliftable rock is to bind Omnipotence to things that are only logically possible, which contradicts the very definition of omnipotent. (I addressed that because I feel it may be brought up). Argument 1: God's Existence -Everything that begins to exist has a cause. It has never been observed otherwise, and it is illogical to say things can begin to exist without a cause. -The Universe has a beginning. The Second Law of Thermodynamics and the expansion of the Universe show that the Universe had a beginning. -Therefore, the Universe has a cause. The first two premises are correct, thus this conclusion is correct. The cause of this Universe, whatever it may be, must exist outside the boundaries set in the Universe, which includes: Time, Matter, and Logic. Therefore, the cause of the Universe is timeless (Eternal & Unchanged), matterless (Immaterial), and not bound by logic, meaning it can do things that are both logical and illogical (Omnipotent). Since the cause is omnipotent, the cause could possibly also be Omnipresent and Omniscient. The cause of the Universe is: Eternal, Unchanged, Immaterial, Omnipotent, and could be Omniscient and Omnipresent (Since the cause is omnipotent, the cause can be those things things as well) It also must be personal, based on the rules of Cause & Effect. If something impersonal, eternal, and unchangeble is the cause of something, then the effect should also be eternal and unchanged (A personal being with free-will does not apply to this: They can, out of their own will, spontaneously create a new effect without prior determining conditions. One example used is this - Someone who has been sitting on a chair from eternity, can stand up if they want to, and thus there is a new effect come from an eternally existent cause. An impersonal thing is only stuck with an eternal Universe. If you were to say a Personal being would also apply to what I said about an impersonal cause, then the Universe wouldn't exist right now: Since neither a personal or impersonal being could cause the Universe in that case). This means that an Impersonal thing cannot be the cause of the Universe, because we know the Universe has a beginning, and is subject to change. Something is either personal or it isn't: There is no middle ground. Since the cause of the Universe logically cannot be impersonal, the cause must logically be personal. How is God defined in the Christian world-view? An Eternal, Immaterial (1 Timothy 1:17), unchangeable (Malachi 3:6), omnipotent (Matthew 19:26), omniscient (1 John 3:20), omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10 & Proverbs 15:3), and personal (God has a will - 2 Peter 3:9, gets angry - Revelation 19:15, etc) cause of the Universe (Genesis 1:1) Argument 2: Proof of Christianity Science- Said the Earth was circular hundreds of years before it was dicovered - Isaiah 40:22 (There was no Hebrew word for Sphere). Said the Earth hung upon nothing thousands of years before it was dicovered - Job 26:7 Said that wind in cyclones - Ecclesiastes 1:6 Said that that blood is the source of life (People used to bleed people to heal them after this was written) - Leviticus 17:11 Said that Oceabs have springs - Job 38:16 Historical- Jesus' existence - http://www.gotquestions.org... Jesus' miracles - http://www.inquisitr.com... (The Historians didn't deny the miracles) Prophecy of the going forth of the Messiah (It was written before Jesus' life) - Daniel 9:25 (http://www.khouse.org...) Jesus not a pagan myth - (You don't need to look at this whole video obviously - I understand that it is too long) Extra/Not complete proof- Changed lives from accepting Jesus