Abortion

"My friend's parents got pregnant twice using birth control and condoms. Some people are more fertile than others. Is it ok to punish those who are responsible and still have a bad outcome?"- My question is: why punish the baby? Why, if you really don't want a kid, just carry out term and then put it up for adoption? There are millions of adopted kids, yes, but all pregnancies don't turn out fatal. That's why you go to DOCTOR to make sure that everything is going fine inside you. That's why a person gets ULTRASOUNDS. So they can see what's going on. "There are clearly a lot of unwanted, unadopted children in the world. If you want to prove me otherwise, you will have to cite it. It is the most serious in Africa because of the AIDS crisis as you can see by my last couple of citations. Also according to my sources there is no lack of children up for adoption."- Yes, there are many unadopted children in the world, but they're not unwanted. If they were unwanted, no child would be adopted because no one would want to adopt and we would billions of kids running around parentless. "Because they know that the need is greater in those countries because those children have lives that are not nearly as good as our wards of the state."- We should be helping our country first. Yes, there are many people in other countries, but I don't think you realize that there are people in those countries who want to adopt from that country. How many people really adopt internationally from the U.S.? Not many because they take care of their own country. http://www.adoptioninstitute.org...This is a little outdated, but still shows that adoption rates have gone up showing how many kids are wanted. The U.S. is not on that top 20 list because while we are trying to improve other countries, we are not improving ourselves. Other countries don't really adopt our children, but we feel the need to go and adopt from other countries. I'm not saying that adopting from other countries is a bad thing, I'm just saying we should start taking care of our citizens first. Other countries, however, do have good things about them. For example: China is a great country. Ever been there? It has a lot of the same things America has. We have poverty, so do they. There are farmers there, we have farmers. There are orphans there, there are orphans here. We are very much alike except population wise. "Except they cannot help themselves because they are poor third world countries who are worse off than we are."- They can. Not all countries are poor. Some are, but the countries we adopt from most of the time are doing just fine on their own. There are people who care about the fetus or baby. That's why people keep their child, because they care. "No one cares about a fetus. And for the record we do kill those who are in a helpless state and will never recover. Pulling the plug on vegetables is totally legal."- You cannot say that no one cares about a fetus when there are people out there who do. If I didn't give a rip about unborn babies, I would not be sitting here typing this long essay for no reason. And yes, pulling the plug is legal and I think should be. The person had a chance at life and why make them suffer if they're going to be a vegetable the rest of their life. I agree with you on that note. "Even if you friends were aborted, you would have developed other friends that you likely would love just as much. You only feel pain because of their absence because you know them. Had they been aborted, you wouldn't know them and therefore would not feel pain at their absence."- Yes, it makes me think about where I would be if they were aborted and yes, it's because I've gotten to know them. The point I'm trying to make is that I have hardly and friends and the friends I do have, for the most part, were adopted so without them I would be a lonely depressed kid. Also, I wouldn't be here debating with you. "And DOCTORS save the lives of the mother by giving them an abortion. The mother can still die from pregnancy even with doctors. With an abortion she doesn't even have to risk her life. Painkillers are dangerous too. It is a much better health decision for the mother to get an abortion and put her life and well-being at less risk. The mother should be the priority because she is a person who feels pain while the fetus is not."- Not every dies when they become pregnant. There can be problems, but that is where doctors come in. Did I mention how many health problems can go wrong with abortion? It's the same amount or more and most of the time, people don't go and commit suicide because they become pregnant and bear their child. They commit suicide because they feel guilty about killing their own kid. "So just because something is alive makes it worth saving? We don't seem to think so in cases of vegetables and animals. I never said the fetus was not alive, I said that it wasn't a person. It has never been the case in terms of laws and in society that something is worth saving just because it is alive."- No, but at least give the "fetus" a chance to live. By the way I take it, you believe the fetus is alive. So, whenever you take away life, it's killing. What else would you call it? That's my question.The essay that I promised will come next round with the video. I was -4,000 words with the essay.