In the West, men look at women as a sexual object

Thank you, Julia, for your last response. This is an important and fascinating topic. I ask you to bear in mind that your resolution has to do specifically with whether men, in the west, do look as women as sex objects. So, again, I repeat my previous challenges to you. If we are talking about something that is gender-essential or gender-based, then it would quickly put to rest your resolution. Let me explain. If all men, everywhere, look at women as a "sex object," it refutes your point. It refutes your point because then men, in all geographic areas would do this "sex objectification." Perhaps you misunderstood the resolution to be debate because now it seems that you are shifting your argument. Despite the refutation that would result from this "gender-essential" argument, I believe it to be more plausible to hold that some or certain males regard women as "sex objects" regardless of what society or culture we are talking about. I believe that the evidence which I have cited demonstrates this rather plainly. In Norway, there are no sexual assaults against women except those perpetrated by men with a different cultural background who believe women need to be veiled. So, the mere fact that they come from this culture makes them think that women are sex objects for them to be sexually fulfilled. But the other men who do not have this cultural orientation do not sexually assault women, even though women are allowed to dress any way that they want in public. In fact, the video that you cited at the end of Round 2 actually helps my case in showing that certain men regard women as sex objects. Many men did not react at all to the female walker, no matter what she was wearing. This indicates that there are some men who are going to view women as sex objects regardless of what they wear. What we need to focus on is the particular group of men who need help or treatment for thinking that all women belong to them sexually. Perhaps this men have been abused as children or have other unaddressed issues in their lives. Perhaps they feel powerless and so they lash out against women. Rape is more of a "power" issue than a "sexual" one. The new evidence that you cite from Kathy Chin is interesting but it does not demonstrate that veiled women would fare any better than non-veiled women since the philosophy behind it holds that men are animals or machines and have a right to act on their impulses. In fact, it's worse. This philosophy of determinism holds that men have no choice whatsoever. They are biologically destined to not only view women as sex objects but treat them as such. Kathy Chin's testimony also refutes the claim that you made since it is "gender-essential" and treats the whole class of men in one way rather than just "western society." But we know that this cannot be true. Men have moral responsibility for their actions. They might entertain a lustful thought but they can choose to act or not act on a lustful thought. You even admitted this earlier in Round 2 when you suggested that a man would have to look "passionately" at a woman who is not fully clothed. If that's the case, then we can assign responsibility to men and men have a choice about how they view women. They do not have to view women as sex objects; they can simply look the other way. If some woman chooses to dress immodestly, that is her right in society. Men can choose not to obsess over what she is wearing and look the other way. That is certainly preferable to the government mandating that all females must wear a certain type of headdress in public in order to avoid being viewed as a "sex object." Thanks again for the interaction on this topic and I look forward to the next round.