Jesus is Michael the Archangel

I will be taking the position that Michael the Archangel is Jesus Christ. My opponent must prove that this is an erroneous postulation. Rules: As a control measure and to keep it simple, only the KJV bible may be used. If the opponent wishes to show an alternate translation, the KJV translation must also be included beside. I am not saying KJV is favours my position, I would just like to reduce confusion. :) We must both accept the possibility we are wrong. This will eliminate arrogance and will allow truth to win, not opinion. :)You must be a Christian.You must be willing to stick out the debate for the whole duaration.No trolls. Round 1 - Statements of position, definitions and points. No refutations Round 2 + 3 - Refutations Round 4 - One final refutation of one of the opponents points, then a rehash of own points. Definitions: Jesus Christ - the self existent son of God. Fully God and fully man. The savior of the human race. Angel - a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, a messenger from God [1] Point 1 - Angel means "messenger", not necessarily a created winged seraphim, cherubim etc. In the Bible, the translated words for angel are the Greek word angelos and the Hebrew malak mean 'messenger'. Thus in the Bible, David and Paul are referred to as a angels. 1 Samuel 29:9 & Galatians 4:14. This means that calling Jesus the "archangel" is not to call him a created being, but rather a chief messenger. Indeed, that is what "archangel" directly translates to: "arch" = chief "ángel" = messenger Notice also the "Michael" translates to "who is like God" [2]. So the full translation of the title is "Chief Messenger who is like God" Point 2 - Jacob was redeemed by an angel. When Jacob was on the lam from Esau he wrestled with the angel of the Lord. Jacob called the place Peniel which means "For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Genesis 32:30). Also, in the Bible, it is only ever God who changes someones name in a holy context (e.g. Abram to Abraham etc.), yet this angel gives Jacob a new name… "Israel." When Jacob was blessing Ephraim and Manasseh, he uses the terms "angel" and "God" interchangeably. "God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day, The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads" Genesis 28:15,16. No one but God can redeem. It is thus clear that Jesus can take the name of "angel." Jesus is not a created being, but he is the chief message deliverer. Point 3 - God is the angel in the burning bush. Exodus 3:2-4 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked , and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed . And Moses said , I will now turn aside , and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt . And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see , God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said , Moses, Moses. And he said , Here am I. Notice who is in the "midst of the bush." The angel (messenger), God. Point 4 - “The Lord rebuke thee” Zechariah 3:1-2 “And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. 2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?” Notice how the “angel of the Lord” and “the LORD” are used interchangeably? And notice the Lords statement “The LORD rebuke thee.” This is seen in only one other place in the Bible, Jude 9, and guess who says it... Michael the archangel! Jude 9 "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee" It is very common for Jesus to speak of himself in the second person (Luke 18:8) Point 5 - Michael the Prince Michael is mentioned in the book of Daniel more than anywhere else. (Dan 10:13,21 12:1) In these places he is referred to as “the prince”, “your prince” and “great prince”. Daniel 10:21"But I will show thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince." Notice here that the angel refers to Michael as your Prince. Who was Daniel’s prince? In the previous chapter, we see the answer. Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. Daniel’s Messiah is called the prince, which is another clear indication of Michael’s identity! So Gabriel is saying that Michael the archangel is Jesus, who knows all the truth of Scripture. Daniel 12:1 "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people." Michael is not called a great prince but "the great prince." There is no prince greater than Jesus. He is also identified as the one who "standeth for the children of thy people." This means that He intercedes, defends and even stands as a substitute. This can only be Jesus. Point 6 - The Voice of the Archangel 1 Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:” It is the voice of the archangel that raises the dead (angels do not have the creative power to raise the dead), and the Lord himself who shouts it. They are the same entity. Point 7 - The Commander of the Lords Army In Revelation 12:7 it is clear that Michael is the leader of the angelic army that apposes Lucifer. This leader appears also in Joshua 5:14-15 “And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so" In all other places where regular angels appear to humans and they worship them, the angles do not accept the worship (e.g. Rev 19:10), but this one, “the captain of the Lord’s host,” does. Why? Because, as God, he is worthy.Conclusion: When looked at completly, it is evident that Micheal is a name for Jesus Christ, sometimes refered to as the angle of the Lord. What a lovely thought, that God did not wait 4,000 years to intervine into human affairs, but has always been here for us. I look foreword to seeing my opponents points :) [1]http://www.biblestudytools.com...... [2]http://www.biblestudytools.com...... [3] http://www.amazingfacts.org......