To show that Solarman is one seriously messed-up person with regards to Islam

To start, I am ignoring all that you quote from the Hadith, since anything that contradicts the Qur'an is false by default. Also, ibn Ishaq's biography was not written from empirical data, but only from oral accounts, so I will ignore that as well. Why? First, I said to use the Qur'an only. That was a ground rule! Second, it's hearsay, so it doesn't prove anything. Lastly, you know that Muhammad wouldn't go against the Qur'an, so you must respect the ground rules of this debate and try to show that the Qur'an itself supposedly commanded him to do the heinous things you've listed. 1) "this will be the easiest debate yet" Don't count your chickens before they hatch. 2) "Do you worship him?" Muslims don't worship prophets. 3) "Is he your savior?" No. And just by your asking me those questions, you're showing an enormous lack of knowledge of my religion. I don't need to answer the next question, since it's premised on my saying "yes" to the foregoing. 4) "His followers are still doing his bidding today, exactly as he did" God's followers are doing God's bidding, which is good works. The term "Muhammad's followers" is a misnomer and would not refer to true Muslims at all. Strictly speaking, no Muslim *follows* Muhammad, only God. 5) "they (the terrorists)are the "good Muslims"" False. [5:32] "For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land." 6) Saudi Quote. Breaking the ground rules again. I don't care what others say, even if they claim to be Muslim scholars. I only care what the Qur'an says. 7) You quoted verse 5:51 in the Qur'an, which allegedly says: 5:51 ("O believers, do not hold Jews and Christians as your allies. They are allies of one another; and anyone who makes them his friends is one of them.") "Allies" is a mistranslation. The word is <'awliyaa'>, which means "protectors." The context is wartime. The enemy are the pagans who are trying to crush the Muslims. The Qur'an was instructing Muslims not to run for the Jews and Christians for protection. They must stand up for themselves against the attacks instead. What would the Torah have instructed to the Israelites on this matter? "Run to the Persians cuz they'll protect you"? 8) Quote: "Qur'an 2:10 "As for those who deny Islam...they shall be the fa**ots for the Fire of Hell."" I didn't realize you could just make up stuff when trying to quote something! Look up that verse for yourself. It says: "In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves)." "They" in this verse is referring to which are the pagans who are trying to kill the Muslims. 9) Quote: "Qur'an 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before." Once again, you misquoted the Qur'an very badly. The correct quote: "And He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some." This refers to the People of the Book who aid the kaafiruun. 10) Here's 47:4 in the correct translation. Stop cutting and pasting from prophetofdoom.com. It only destroys your credibility. Qur'an [47:4] "Now when ye meet in battle those who are kaafiruun, then it is striking at the necks until, when ye have routed them, making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain." The correct translation speaks for itself. Interesting that the Arabic word "jihad" doesn't appear at all in that verse. Anyway, this verse is clearly meant for times of war against those who were seeking to destroy the small community that made up the fledgling religion. 11) Muhammad's Life. "According to the Hadith and Qur'an..." - Breaking the ground rules again. We aren't talking about the Hadith, remember? "Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity." - Tell me where it says that in the Qur'an. "The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources" - Breaking the ground rules again. But what are these "five oldest" sources? Answer that question, despite your having plagiarized this. "They reveal that he was a thief, a liar, an assassin, a pedophile, a womanizer, a rapist, a mass murderer, a pirate, a warmonger, and a scheming and ruthless politician. It's hardly the character profile of a religious leader." - Show me evidence of this in the Qur'an. Ibn Ashraf was killed because he was gathering for an uprising against Muhammad. He was planning an attack to kill that small community of Muslims. And even so, this is hearsay, someone's interpretation of what happened. No eye-witness ever wrote anything down to suggest that this happened, but if it did, it was wartime. Same goes with the other dude. 12) What is in the Qur'an. I'll look past the fact that you got this off of <http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com... > under the comments section. But since you did plagiarize someone else's writing, you'll have to explain it. Why are the creation accounts "dimwitted to the point of being delirious?" You made an accusation with nothing to back it up. And because the Qur'an doesn't exactly tell the same thing as the Bible, does that make it false? How does that have *anything* to do with *anything*? As far as the order of the suwar, that's not the order of the revelation, and it doesn't matter. Each sura has a reason for being there and has a story to say. And can you tell me what that verse is that "Muslims don't want it translated?" So far, almost your entire argument has been copy/paste off of the following sites. You should be wise not to do this as it only destroys your credibility. http://groups.google.com... http://www.prophetofdoom.net... http://www.prophetofdoom.net... http://www.prophetofdoom.net... http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com...