The Mind is Immaterial, Spirit exists

"1. German scientists Hans Helmut Kornhuber and L"der Deecke discovered a phenomenon they called "bereitschaftspotential", German for "readiness potential. " Their discovery, that the brain enters into a special state immediately prior to conscious awareness, set off an entirely new subfield. They asked their subjects to move their fingers, Kornhuber and Deecke's electroencephalogram (EEG) scans showed a slow negative potential shift in the activity of the motor cortex just slightly prior to the voluntary movement. They had no choice but to conclude that the unconscious mind was initiating a freely voluntary act. " Who denies that when one is unconscious and that the brain can't do anything? Not me, I don't deny that at night when I'm unconscious I'm moving all already etc, but the fact is, Will is not the brain, it is immaterial, therefore the mind is immaterial. "They asked their subjects to move their fingers, Kornhuber and Deecke's electroencephalogram (EEG) scans showed a slow negative potential shift in the activity of the motor cortex just slightly prior to the voluntary movement. " Exactly my point, one decides to do something and then the brain does it, something causes the brain to do it, for example right before I move my hand, I can just think of my hand an Immediately I feel a reaction in my hand before I even move it, this proves my point, The Mind is Immaterial. Refuted. "2. The brain is not just a piece of meat, it is a complex system of storage units and neurons able to store and collect date, inerpret data and respond throughout the body. " Complexity is an Idea/Subject of The Mind, Complexity isn't a thing, it is an abstract object such as numbers and shapes, they have no physical objectivity and only exist in ones mind, so the brain being complex cannot be the reason why, as Complexity, Numbers, and Shapes(Abstract Objects) are purely from the mind and do not exist in physical reality. The Brain is mindless cells, if you claim that these cells have any kind of intelligence, then they have a mind, if each brain cell was personal we'd be Multipersonal, this is not the case, as 1, we are not multipersonal and 2, Matter is Mindless Refuted. "3. Rape is NOT advantageous to the species. In humans, altruism and intelligence prevail and thats what natural selection promotes. " If you accept this as true, then you accept that Natural Selection didn't cause Altruism and Intelligence, in which you have to reject "atheistic" evolution, if you agree with "atheistic" "macro-evolution" you have to agree that Natural Selection caused this to exist, thus Altruism and Intelligence would be based o Survival, which means Factually rape would be advantageous to the Species. " The rapist would have to choose someone of reproduction age, a woman who will raise the child even after the rape and would not put the rapist in dange of attack. Obviously the risk factors are much higher and less altruistic than to find a consenting mate who will not increase risk of attack to the person and will most likely, take care of the child. " Nope, Natural Selection still would've chosen it, even with all the setbacks listed, so on the least level rape would be going no problem, which is not the case in Reality. Refuted. "4. They are regenerating not dying and regenerating at a rapid pace. Thats the regeneration of brain cells and new brain cells through age. They do not undergo regular, normal, rapid death and seperation. " Nope, Regeneration is cells dying and being replaced by completely new cells, Argument Refuted. "My hand and your hand are not identical, you have different skin, different cells, different pigmentation, different sweat glands, different oil glands etc. " Exactly, same with the hand I had in 2002, it ain't the same as the one I have now. "Black is the absence of color, Black is whatever you see when there is no light or no color. No one sees blue and another green, unless one has a defect causing them to see that. " "Black is the absence of color", but black is still Something that objectively exists and has no Physical(Hear, Taste, Touch, Feel), properties, which even blind people see, which means they aren't really blind despite their eyes not working, which proves that The Eyes are really the window of the soul. "6. It is not mindless matter, it is the mind of the matter. It's made up of memories stored and saved that produce chemical cues. Study the brain. " A cue? To what? The Spirit. 2, I have studied the brain, at least more than you apparently in this debate. "7. MY argument is not refuted. Your complete lack of biology and nerves do not refute my argument. I already explained how you can feel your hand. " In order for my opponent to be valid here, he must, 1, Demonstrate why his argument hasn't been refuted point by point 2, Prove that I lack knowledge in biology and neurology, 3, show how despite the fact that The Brain and The Hand are completely different pieces of Quantum matter, analogous to the wall being distinct from my and me not being able to feel how the wall is, that the brain knows how the hand feels, which is insane in my eyes, the brain is just as separate to the hand like the hand is to the wall, matter is individual, If I touched the wall, would I be able to feel how the wall is? No, likewise my brain being connected to my hand in no way can make my brain know how my hand feels. "8. Josephus: Wrote about Jesus in 93-94 AD. Jesus died in 30AD. This passage is also been shown to conclusively to have been tampered with. " Which I do not contend, it was tampered with, but only marginally, it still mentions Jesus Christ Crucifixion, when we saw the Greek and Arabic versions I proved that the tampering was no big deal, Josephus is Factually Valid. " Tacitus' claim is more of the same late, second-hand "history. " There is no mention of "Jesus," only "the sect known as Christians" living in Rome being persecuted, and "their founder, one Christus. " Tacitus claims no first-hand knowledge of Christianity. No historical evidence exists that Nero persecuted Christians--Nero did persecute Jews, so perhaps Tacitus was confused. There was certainly not a "great crowd" of Christians in Rome around 60 C. E. , as Tacitus put it, " Most modern scholars consider the passage to be authentic - . http://en.wikipedia.org... Talmud is valid as they did not claim Jesus Christ to be The Messiah and got this oral tradition from prior Jews, which prove the point, Jesus Christ was crucified. "Mark's Gospel: 70 Luke's Gospel: 80 John's Gospel 90" Every date you have is invalid as None mention a Castrofice event of The Destruction of The Temple or mention that The Prophecy was Fulfilled. so all are before 70AD, unless you can prove that The Gospels mention this event. if Gospels were after 70AD they would mention when Jesus Christ said The Temple would be destroyed that The Prophecy was fulfilled, None of them do, they are all before the Destruction of Temple, You could only put John, Mark, and Luke's Gospel in 70AD or before, in order to prove otherwise you'd have to prove that The Temple's Destruction(Such an Important Event Predicted by Jesus Christ) is mentioned in The Gospels, if not they are all Pre 70AD. Refuted "They don't agree and often contradict each other. " Assertion not proof. "Yes, if Jesus existed, it would be very resonable to assume he was crucified considering it was the form of punnishment back then. " And He was crucified, by agreeing to this you agree There was an empty tomb, as No way would they preach a Resurrection with the body in the tomb, by admitting those 2 Facts, and teh fact that all The Apostles except John died for their beliefs, if it was a lie they knew and could've prevented their deaths, they didn't therefore they weren't lying Gospels are Reliable, my opponent has been making illogical emotional based assertions with no logic or evidence.