Convert Me

-- Content -- Rebuttal Section: • Argument 1, 2, 3 • Argument 4 o The Authenticity of the Qur'an o Prophecies o Pharaoh Argument Section [*]: • Prohibition of Homosexuality • Mathematical Structure of the Qur'an • Historical Evidence o People of Saba - The Arim Flood o City of Iram o Sodom and Gomorrah • Prophecies -- Rebuttals -- • Argument 1, 2, 3 My dear opponent and I do not seem to be in huge disagreements over these, so I will leave them for the sake of character space. As for the first argument, I say: [Qur'an 2:111] "And they say: 'None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.' Those are their (vain) desires. Say: 'Produce your proof if ye are truthful.'" • Argument 4 o The Authenticity of the Qur'an 1. By 'full form' I meant that it was established and full, no longer to be 'continued'. 2. Please see reference one. I am testing a new way of debate references.[1] 3. Same as #2. o Prophecies My opponent argues that the Qur'an does not mention surgeries. Most of these prophecies are found in authentic hadith, first and foremost. But that does not matter at all. Now, is it even important that surgeries are not mentioned? No. Why? Because it would be too complicated. What kind of a surgery? What would it involve? Is it a real surgery or just some styling? There would be too many questions. Also, it is not proper to waste character space on this, because there are tons of other more precise and interesting prophecies. I will come to it later. o Pharaoh My opponent stated that the argument about Pharaoh is fascinating, but that it was not Rameses II. I believe that Dr. Maurice Bucaille did indeed say it was Rameses II, but it is hard to prove which Pharaoh it was. Some say that it was Rameses II who was the Pharaoh of Moses' time, others say it was Merneptah. It is one of these, and there is no doubt that the body found is Pharaoh.[2] Furthermore, Dr. Maurice Bucaille wrote a book called "The Bible, The Qur'an, and Science," which is free for download or read.[3] I ask, which other book or any text has made such a great prophecy? A body preserved fully, without mummification. How can this be possible? Only if the one who created everything wills it. -- Arguments -- • Prohibition of Homosexuality My opponent mentioned something like homosexuality being prohibited, and that he does not agree with it (see comment section). Why is homosexuality prohibited? Firstly, Islam is a religion of justice, not equality. The former is best. Secondly, assume that Islam had permitted homosexuality alongside heterosexuality. Some may say it would be a good thing. I ask, what would a person do, who - unfortunately - may feel attracted to something/someone very few people accept? What if a person is attracted to animals only? What if a person is attracted to dead bodies? Please notice that I am not comparing homosexuality to this and that act. I am merely saying that it would not be fair to single out homosexuality among all other sexual orientations. So, why only heterosexuality? This is the only act that can make humans breed. Of course, some people are sterile, but it is important to notice that the act of heterosexuality is permitted already, so even though they may not be able to get everything out of it, they are still acting upon the most useful thing for humans. Islam is not a religion that will permit sex with dead bodies, mothers, etc., because it is a religion that is protective and wants to let people be safe from consequences of these things. Therefore, it only permits heterosexuality, because that act leads to reproduction, and that is why Islam only justified that. • Mathematical Structure of the Qur'an The Qur'an is not structured in a simple way. In fact, it is structured mathematically.[4][5][6] Now, if some words of the Qur'an get distorted somehow, not only will that be known due to the literate aspect, but by looking at the number of words. For example, the number 19 is significant in the Qur'an. [Qur'an 74:30] "Over it are Nineteen." Now, an example is that the Qur'an is mentioned in 38 chapters. This is 19 x 2. The total amount of chapters in the Qur'an is 114, which is 19 x 6. The words "benefit" and "corrupt" both appear 50 times each in the Qur'an. There are tons of such similar codes. Remove one of the words, and we will see unequal mathematical structures. Which book has this? Who could have made it this precise? Using the theory of probability, I can safely say that there is 0% chance of this happening so precisely. A book that mentions astronomy, geology, oceanology, etc., without any err, yet being ancient, this is not possible for any human to make. • Historical Evidence The Qur'an does not only get the story of Pharaoh and Moses right. There are also other things. o People of Saba - The Arim Flood[7] Archaeological evidence proves the story of the Qur'an about people of Saba to be true. The video explains it. o City of Iram A city that was destroyed, which was the place of 'Ad people. The Qur'an, amazingly, describes something that took place, and we know it by using archaeological evidence. It is ultimately precise. [Qur'an 89:6-8] "Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the 'Ad (people),- (7)Of the (city of) Iram, with lofty pillars, (8)The like of which were not produced in (all) the land?" See reference #8, please. Also #9. o Sodom and Gomorrah The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah had inhabitants who, according to the Qur'an, acted upon numerous major sins. [Qur'an 15:72-77] "Verily, by thy life (O Prophet), in their wild intoxication, they wander in distraction, to and fro. (73)But the (mighty) Blast overtook them before morning, (74)And We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay. (75)Behold! in this are Signs for those who by tokens do understand. (76)And the (cities were) right on the high-road (where the Dead Sea is located). (78)Behold! in this is a sign for those who believed." See reference #10. The Dead Sea is the lowest point on the planet. There are no animals, e.g. fish, to be found in it. Near that sea, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Archaeological evidence proves that there were once cities there. In fact, it is proved that that there was a great earthquake, apparently followed by some big explosions. • Prophecies [Qur'an 30:2-3] "The Roman Empire has been defeated- (3)- In a land close by; but they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will soon be victorious" Read source #11. [Qur'an 56:1-2] "The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two]. (2) And if they see a miracle, they turn away and say, "Passing magic." The Qur'an mentions splitting of the moon in two parts in the past. NASA mentions something similar on their site. This is a picture: http://grin.hq.nasa.gov... The moon was split, and made one again. Who knew this? "Earthquakes will increase." "Time will pass more quickly." Who knew all this? As for the future, "The Muslim conquest of Rome." If this comes true, will you believe? I thank my lovely opponent! -- References -- [1]http://www.debate.org... [2]http://www.witness-pioneer.org... [3]http://www.witness-pioneer.org... [4]http://www.miraclesofthequran.com... [5]YouTube Video, search: watch?v=4fZIQwnOMCM [6]YouTube Video, search: watch?v=A4Sel2GqiGM [7]YouTube Video, search: watch?v=vDyEBQaFZyM [8]YouTube Video, search: watch?v=NCF49ahsH8c [9]http://www.imamreza.net... [10]YouTube Video, search: watch?v=wvXSX2rDv1I [11]http://en.wikipedia.org... [*]Due to extreme lack of character space for my arguments, I will post them now because they were meant to be posted earlier.