Santa claus was real!!

Thanks to my opponent for a speedy response. Let me make five statements (1) So far my opponent has given no evidence that Santa Claus did not exist. (2) My sources have and will give ample evidence of his existence. (3) It is my job to prove that Santa Claus existed. Therefore all I need to do is prove that he existed to win this debate. (4) I will agree that Santa Claus’s person has been VERY GREATLY distorted, but that does not detract much from the fact that he existed. (5) In the first round I never said I believed that what was widely said about Santa Claus was true. In the second round I clarified that I did not believe it to be true. ================================================================= "I would also like to point out my opponents other premise plopped along the evidence referred to in my paragraph above is unsubstantiated--it lacks validation: "He used to give out presets to kids, which is why the jolly fat man version of him gives presents to kids for Christmas day. " His sources state Santa Claus was said to give out presents not that he did. " ================================================================= Fair enough: I think my future sources will confirm the fact that he gave presents to kids, but if you disagree you can say that statement is a possible probability instead of a fact. But that does not detract from the fact that Santa Claus existed. You state that I have not proven Santa Claus existed. I don’t agree I assert that I have proved it with the sources, which my opponent himself says are reputable. But since that has been contested I will further my endeavors to prove his existence. You use the example of the unicorn. Let me use the example of Jesus. It is widely accepted by scholars that Jesus existed. But someone (not myself) might say that who Jesus was/is has been greatly distorted or lied about. That does not change the fact that Jesus existed. I believe in Jesus but if I did not I could say, I believe that Jesus existed but not what is said about Him. Such as He preformed miracles, He was the Son of God etc…. The same thing could be said about Santa Claus. I believe that Santa Claus existed, but not what is widely said about him. Such as he rides in a sleigh that goes through the air driven by rein deer, he goes down chimneys delivering presents to kids, and says ho ho ho. ============================================================== “Premise 1: Santa Claus was greatly distorted by cartoonists, radio programs, and the TV premise 2: Santa Claus wasn't just called Santa Claus (he was also known as Nicholas, saint Nicholas, Sinterklaas) Conclusion: Santa Claus did indeed exist. ” ============================================================== I never stated those premises to confirm the fact that Santa Claus existed. They help confirm that fact. But I think my sources have and will amply supply the evidence that Santa Claus existed. =============================================================== Quote from source- “St. Nicholas was born in 280 AD, in Patara, a city of Lycia, in Asia Minor. He became the gift giver of Myra. His gifts were given late at night, so that the gift giver's identity would remain a secret. St Nicholas was eventually named the patron saint of children, sailors, Russia and Greece. ” =============================================================== We could substitute the name St. Nicholas with Santa Claus. That would seem weird because of the common image put into your mind at the name Santa Claus. But nevertheless it would be a true statement Main Sources: ________________________________________________________________________ . http://www.history.com... . http://www.thehistoryofchristmas.com... . http://www.suite101.com... Other sources: ________________________________________________________________________ . http://www.santasuitexpress.com... . http://www.northpolesantaclaus.com...