Islam allows men to pressure/force their wives into having sex

I disagree with this statement to a large extent. Most of the obligatory rituals and observances that muslims follow are described in the ahadith and not in the Quran. Theu Quran does not explain the details of how salah is to be performed for example. Many articles of faith that are part of the aqeedah of a muslim are described in detail in the ahadith and they are not just found in the Quran. Most muslims believe in the authenticity of the sahih ahadith collections. bukhari, muslim and tirmidhi are amongst the most reknowned. My friend, the way the quran was preserved is very similar to the way many of the ahadith were preserved as well. you can't just follow the quran and ignore the sahih ahadith. --- Muslims do follow the ahadith. I agree, actually the meaning of SUNNA which is the largest sect of Muslims comes from the acts of the prophet. But God gave us a brain for a reason and as I said before (I will say it again and explain it): in Islam God ensured to protect the Holy Scripture ONLY. He said that unlike the Torah and New Testament the Quran will be divinely protected. So it doesn't matter for a muslim if the Quran and the Snow White were transferred in the same way because God HIMSELF ensured to protect the Quran. He said nothing about the words of the Prophet pbuh. What does that mean? Simple, anything God didn't write in his Book I can just ignore. The prayer which is the MAIN thing that is passed through ahadith is mentioned in the Quran but without steps. The prophet taught people how to pray and unlike words prayer is an act performed everyday by muslims. Might it have been changed over the years slightly? Sure, but God isn't a video game with right and wrong moves. If a hadith is not fitting today then there is a reason God didnt put it the Book. It aint freakin fittin for all generations. I still don't find ANY problem in the hadith until now, whether it be wrong or right. i just wanted to make it clear that ahadith aren't as ground breaking as some people like to make them to abuse odd or weird ahadith. In this case I don't the hadith wrong at all. Again, the same people who preserved the quran are narrators and presevers of many ahadith. If you believe in one and not the other, you have doouble standards. --- No, God said he would divinely protect the Quran ONLY. This might not matter to u as an atheist but it matter to help you understand that the Quran is for all the generations (eternal) and the hadiths are not all so and might not be all correct. So anything that defies reason you can just ignore. So basically, all that talk about only respecting ahadith and not necessarily following them was uselss, because you don't see anything wrong with the wording of those ahadith. The quotes (the ahadith in other words... the sayings of your holy prophet) state that the angels curse the wife. and you seem to imply that this is not what they mean. What is your proof of this? I agree counselling or divorce seem like a much more logical solution but clearly this is not what Muhammad was recommending here. Unfortunately, a woman, as I am sure you know, is not legally allowed to ask her husband for divorce. The husband however, can tell his wife that he is divorcing her. Very unfair. I know a wooman can go to a qadhi to ask for a divorcee, but even then she will not be granted one until she provides evidence that her husband is performing acts of kufr. Please don't try to deny this as people can easily look this up and many muslims prescribe to this version of Islam. --- no it meant that your proof even it was obscene doesn't affect Islam. But what did you want the prophet to say? Did you want him to mention the electric bills and cable expenses too? Prophet Mohammed was 1400 years ago. Women can't divorce men except in front of a court. But men must also finalize their divorce in courts! Is it ridiculous that a woman can't divorce except of a major defect in her husband? Sure! Should Islam be blamed for it? Hell no! Misogynist nut bags who exist EVERYWHERE are the ones that should be blamed. And talking about the ahadith: a woman came to the prophet pbuh and asked for a divorce, he told her did the man do an act of kufr or hit her or anything or the such? She said no, that he is a good man. The prophet said then give him his garden (his property) and have your divorce. Ahadiths are not all certain but infact they must change and fit our modern life. The only thing that can't "fit" or modern life but vice verse is the Quran and the direct word of God. I was, but this is not a productive conversation. In my opinion, you did not even come close to proving me wrong and I was hoping that I was misinterpreting these ahadith. --- The hadith has nothing wrong with it. I explained that a couple of times now. If the hadith said CUT THEIR HEADS OFF!!!! then yes it would be ridiculous but all it said is that is a sin not fulfill the martial needs for no reason at all. And I said the solutionin 2013 is marriage counseling or divorce. Simple and makes sense. You just want to create a religious and moral dogma out of nothing when the solution is pretty simple.