Evidence of God is Strong

Pro, your 3rd round was really hard to read because it was disorganized and had many listed, but not explained, bible quotes; it discouraged me from reading all of it...it all kind of seemed irrelevant.However, I'm willing to extract as much relevance as I can muster from Pro's 3rd and 4th round, and I'll rebuttal.I was called a retreating fighter!*RELEVANT REBUTTAL*Pro claimed:"The Bible depicted the future in the most specific and bizzare description. Even stranger. It became reality in real life."My response:Despite the tautology, can you explain HOW the bible mentioning a false prophet or a beast indicates that god created the universe, or that a temporal process like creation is even possible without time/universe?Without Pro addressing HOW god created the universe, retrofitting events and religions to swaths of cherry picked scripture and claiming accurate prophecy does not qualify as an available body of facts indicating that the proposition of a universe creator is true.Pro asks:"Did the universe manifest the Biblical version of the future with divine intervention?"My response:No.Pro also asks:"Shall the opposers suggest that it was magic? "My response:Check my screen name.Pro continues:"Did we simply hit the jackpot by blind luck?"My response:Was there a jackpot mentioned in the piles of unexplained bible quotes you provided, Pro?Well, there's no jackpot mentioned in my explanation of how the universe originated sans creator, so your analogies are as useless as your bible quotes. Pro asserts:"I do believe in the power that created our reality and its influence"My response:Great, how about the power that you claim created the universe, the agreed to definition of god in this debate?Of course, you just believing it doesn't make the evidence strong, it just makes your belief strong...No universe, no time, no time base processes, no creation, no creator, no god in this debate...deal with this Pro.Pro gets logical:"If reality is finite, we are asked to believe in basketballs that can exist in nothing. If time is finite, meaning, it never was, then one day popped into existence, that would be magic."My response:Time is a property of the universe, and it is on a continuum with space.This means that, sans universe, when there was no stative space, there was no stative time, and instead, both space and time fluctuated in and out of existence in quantum fluctuations along with the virtual sub nuclear particles and their forces.Nothing is a state of fluctuating virtual particles.http://scholarsresearchlibrary.com...Here's a nice video for explaining the nothing state, which is the condition without a universe.Since our universe had a beginning, so did spacetime.It's also not magic, because getting something (energy) from nothing (no energy) is perfectly reasonable in quantum mechanics, thanks to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. http://www.currentscience.ac.in...The stuff that happens on a quantum level might blow your mind, but it's all perfectly normal stuff, and furthermore my screen name.Pro reasons:"If reality is of infinite space and/or time,"My response:Space may keep on expanding out forever, but it still had a definite beginning, an unstable expression of quantum fluctuations at the big bang. Pro adds:"There were events but no first event."My response:I would say that the origin of time is a pretty good candidate for "first event."Pro then begins asking about how we can have a universe without an external creator, and I ask, how can an external creator use time to create time?How does one accomplish a time-based process, creation, without time?Pro can't answer this, and won't, and if there's no time, there's no temporal process, there's no creation, there's no creator, therefore there's no god in this debate. http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov...*TERRORIST EVENTS*Pro had also listed a series of terrorist events that were retrofitted to random quotes from the bible, and Pro tried to link this to Islam.What Pro ignored were all of the terrorist events that occurred SANS Islam, and in the name of the god that Pro is claiming predicted these terrorist events.All 10 events gathered from:https://en.wikipedia.org...1. July 29, 1994: Army of God (United States) member Rev. Paul Jennings Hill murders gynecologist John Britton and Britton's bodyguard James Barrett with a shotgun at close range, outside the Ladies Center clinic in Pensacola, Florida.2. December 10, 1994: Advertising executive Thomas J. Mosser is killed by a mail bomb sent by Unabomber. 3. December 30, 1994: Anti-abortion activist John C. Salvi III shoots and kills 2 employees and injures 5 others in a rampage attack at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts. Salvi escapes and drives to Norfolk, Virginia, where Army of God (United States) spokesman Rev. Donald Spitz resides.4. December 31, 1994: Salvi attacks the Planned Parenthood clinic in Norfolk, Virginia. Salvi is apprehended shortly after, and has in his possession Army of God (United States) spokesman Donald Spitz's name and unlisted telephone number.5. April 19, 1995: Oklahoma City bombing — Timothy McVeigh parks a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City which explodes killing 168 people, including 19 children. McVeigh and Terry Nichols are convicted in the bombing, motivated by their outrage over the FBI's handling of the Waco Siege.6. April 24, 1995: Timber industry lobbyist Gilbert P. Murray, is killed in the third and final mailbomb attack by the Unabomber.7. July 27, 1996: Centennial Olympic Park bombing Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph places a three pipe bombs in a backpack, which he leaves in busy Centennial Olympic Park. The bomb is discovered by security guard Richard Jewell who raises an alert. One person is killed and 111 others are wounded in the explosion. Rudolph's bomb is intended to force the cancellation of the Atlanta Olympics due to his outrage over legal abortion.8. January 16, 1997: Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph bombs a women's health clinic in Sandy Springs, Georgia. There are two bombs; the first meant to kill people inside the clinic, the second bomb placed in the parking lot and time-delayed to kill first-responders.9. February 21, 1997: Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph bombs the Otherside Lounge, a gay bar in Atlanta, Georgia. There are two bombs; the first left on the outdoor patio, the second bomb left in the parking lot, time-delayed to kill first-responders.10. January 29, 1998: Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph bombs a women's clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, killing 1 and critically injuring another.So, Pro, you now have to explain why the army of YOUR BIBLICAL GOD and non-Muslims were responsible for all of these events, and why your silly bible quotes don't show these obvious Christians, not Muslims, fulfilling terrorist prophecy.Good luck.Pro, other than your baldly asserted retrofitting of scripture to current terror events:1. Why should we consider the bible authoritative on matters of the universe?2. HOW did god create the universe without time?3. HOW does god rule the universe?4. HOW is god the source of all moral authority when he allows such atrocities to happen and refuses to stop them EVEN THOUGH he's supposed to have foreknowledge of them? Come on, Pro...you have to address these problems.