Homosexuality.

My opponent makes the point : "This leads me to assert that homosexuals are just as affective/loving parents as heterosexuals, and do NOTHING, as a collective group, to harm the development of the child.". When conducting such 'research' I think we could both agree that anyone with an agenda has the ability to put a twist on data and evidence to suit that said agenda. I take any of this so called research with a grain of salt. So of course there is plenty of research contrary to what you say, such as this from the family research council: http://www.frc.org... which closing argument is: "The myths that children of homosexual parents are "no different" from other children and suffer "no harm" from being raised by homosexual parents have been shattered forever." But I'm more inclined to go by first hand experience, and there are anti gay-marriage activists out there who are campaigning because they came from same sex parents and believe it is not in the best interests of the child. They love their parents, they are not homophobic, but they believe it is not the best thing for society: http://www.washingtontimes.com... You keep making assertions involving exclusivity, and to prove them wrong only one example against is required. So again, your assertion has been proved wrong because I have provided examples where having same sex parents clearly does harm the development of the child. Your next point: "However, I must ask what pertinence it has with the debate? People, by nature, have control over all their choices. I"m generally interested in what this point does to refute me or challenge my assertions. " Your initial assertion was that homosexuals can't control their homosexuality. I proved that they could by way of example. It is very relevant to the debate. Homosexuals should be educated that even though they are gay, they still have choices, that those choices could involve living a heterosexual lifestyle, and that living a heterosexual lifestyle can be very fulfilling, even if they are gay. If society didn't 'accept' homosexual behaviour, then homosexuals can still live well adjusted lives even without it. Your next point: "1. This is not a known fact. But, since you say it is, give me conclusive evidence proving it. " I already proved it using known facts - Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. It's that simple! But since you haven't grasped it yet, I'll elaborate. Homosexuals cannot have sexual intercourse with sexual organs. To have sexual intercourse, they need to use a substitute for a sexual organ. Therefore it is not normal. Your next point: "2. This implies that we homosexuals are currently affecting other people. Yes this is true. But for you to post it, there must be a negative connotation. So, please go into this. " Currently the issues homosexuals face (see point 4) discussion below) do affect other people, with the increased spread of disease, health care costs etc. But I'm sure the world can put up with that since it is not exclusive to homosexuals. The true problem I have is not with people being gay, the true problem I have is with the 'Normalisation of Homosexuality". While this will have some psychological and other benefits to gay people, no-one has really stopped to consider how it will affect the rest of society. Here are some points to consider that form the basis of my next argument 1) Sexually active teenagers are 500% more likely to commit suicide. Clearly, sexual activity has a significant psychological impact on people. 2) Everyone of us has some degree of bisexuality, measured on something called the Kinsey Scale. Sigmund Freud called it "Innate Bisexuality", meaning we all have it, but it usually remains latent. https://en.wikipedia.org... 3) All of us at some point contemplate, or even have, same sex attractions that are outside of our orientation. 4) Children, and even adults are impressionistic, and will imitate the behaviour of others Gay activism is not just about gay marriage, but more to the point it is about the 'normalisation of homosexuality', and also includes the infiltration of gay behaviours into our media, our television shows, our movies, our advertising and our every day lives. The approval of gay marriage will be a stepping stone to even more homosexual behaviour being on display for everyone to see. The normalisation of homosexuality will mean the removal of that little voice that tells our kids "hang on, this is wrong". We will actually be educating them that it is normal, or right. So when they are faced with, or contemplate a same sex attraction or situation, gone is that massive barrier telling them to stop. The more we normalise homosexuality, the more gays will be forthcoming with the confidence in trying to solicit others, including straights for sex. The more we normalise homosexuality, the more kids, and even adults, will discover their bisexual side and the psychological problems that come with this (see point 4 discussion below). The more we normalise homosexuality, the more kids will try it even if it is not their orientation, for various reasons like peer pressure, alcohol, lack of other opportunities, or simply by copying what they perceive to be normal. By allowing gay marriage, we are not only normalising homosexuality, we are teaching society that it is something to be celebrated (absolutely mind boggling). We are destroying a biological truth (boys have a penis and girls have a vagina) and teaching our kids a little black lie that will have disastrous consequences. It will confuse and muddle our childrens' and even adults' thoughts and the ability to distinguish between what is love and what is friendship. The end result will be more kids and adults experimenting with gay and bisexual sex. The psychological damage to the affected children, adults, and their families will be enormous. There will be an increase in child suicide rates. Families will be destroyed. The creation and spread of disease is going to cost us billions. This is the true evil of the "normalisation of homosexuality". So many innocent children's lives will be ruined, akin to being sexually abused, all because society teaches them that homsexuality is normal. As a reference, if you google "i am not gay and had gay sex" you can spend hours trawling through search results to find stories similar to this occurring. Your next point: "4. This, again, is hearsay that has not basis because my opponent does not actually have a homosexual mind, and therefore does not know if we find peace within ourselves. " This is not hearsay. Homosexuals statistically have very bad physical and psychological issues: https://carm.org... 1) They sleep with a lot more partners 2) They create and spread more disease 3) They have higher incidences of substance abuse 4) They have higher incidences of domestic violence 5) They have higher incidences of suicide rates 6) They live on average for about 15 years less. If homosexuals really had peace within themselves, like you claim then the statistics for a lot of these issues would be a lot lower and fit with the rest of society. I urge you not to ignore this. Homosexuals can find peace within themselves, and that can include living a homosexual lifestyle But you will not find that peace until you acknowledge the truth, that homosexuality is not normal. The world needs to get to a stage where homosexuals can say "i know this is not right, but it's the way i am, and I'm prepared to live with it". The world needs to get to a stage where parents can say "my child is homosexual. I know it's not right, but they have choices. Whatever way they choose to live their life, I will support them as much as I can and love them as much as I can". The world needs to be forthright, upfront and say it for what it is, not hide behind this complete and utter nonsense that somewhere, somehow, homosexuality could be normal. It helps no-one. A boy has a penis and a girl has a vagina. That is an inescapable biological truth that will always come back to haunt homosexuals until they accept it for what it is. To close this argument, I will leave you with something to ponder - If you were to be honest with yourself and with the rest of the world, then perhaps the rest of the world would be more forgiving of homosexuals and you would face less persecution. Stop the delusion or pretense or lie or whatever it is.