The Playstation 3 is a bad system to own.

Thanks for taking my debate. Answers- 1. "I wouldn't doubt it if it was for the 360 or Wii as well" The Xbox does lose money, but not as much as the PS3. Plus they have great games. The wii, on the other hand, only costs $150 to make. 2. "Also, the loss you listed should be much lower now, since the cost of production lowers quite a bit" Unless you prove to me the actual amount, and give me a source, I can't argue this. Also, the PS3 selling price was dropped to $400, so this is obviously not true. 3. "it's the most powerful console around." Agreed, that isn't my argument. 4. "While some people out there might have been looking forward to some of those games, there are no games there that look good to me that aren't also on the 360." That is EXACTLY my point. 5. "The fact that the PS3 doesn't have this game is therefore not a deal-breaker, since it's entirely possible to own both systems." That is true, but I'm afraid that's not the question at hand. The question is, 'Is the PS3 a good system', and not 'Is the PS3 better than the 360'. Yes, I do compare a number of things to the Xbox and Wii, but without anything to compare it to, how would we know its a bad system? What you said was not comparing. 6. "I admit that the 360 has much better exclusives." Thank you 7. "Perhaps you could say that the PS3 is less worth owning than the 360, but it surely isn't 'bad' to own" Bad- "inadequate or below standard; not satisfactory for use" from Dictionary.com. Less 'worth owning' makes it bad. The PS3 does not live up to its price. 8. "You then bring up Blu-Ray, claiming that current DVD's are good enough and we don't need a change. " That is not what I said at all. I said they are superior, but the media isn't going to swith to them. 9. "HD-DVD's are also a new alternative." I don't see how thats a relavent point. We are talking about Blu-Ray. Also, HD-DVD's are STILL DVDs, it's only an upgrade, but I don't see how thats relavent. 10. "Both are doing fairly well." No. They aren't. Has the media stopped making DVDs? No. Has the media only made HD-DVDs and Blu-Ray? No. The cost is simply way too much to even consider these a possibility. 11. "We are now approaching a time when regular DVD's won't cut it anymore for these games." No we are not. First of all, I beileve graphics are overrated, and better graphics does not mean a better game. But, look at every good game for the Xbox. Did that use Blu-Ray? No. And I'm perfectly fine playing those games. Take Halo 3. Great graphics, great game. That is not a blu-ray. The only system doing this is the PS3, and I am proving that it is not good. 12. "Also, they are free, so by just 'owning' the system, you also have the multiplayer." That doesn't mean its better. I, personally, would like to have a good online play and pay $50 a year for it. Also, the Wii is free, and that is superior. 13. "the PS3 can play PS2 games (and PS1 games)." http://ps3.ign.com... read this article. Many people have trobule with the PS3's 'Backwards compatability'. You also say that Xbox has poor compatability. But, it has great backwards compatability. http://www.xbox.com... This is a list of all the games backwards compatable. It is pretty extensive. 14. "But this ins't about comparing the PS3 to other systems." I agree and disagree. It isn't about making a financial decision, but with nothing to compare it to, how would we know it was good? That is the same for everything in humanity. We need to compare to make an assumption. Now my offense- Games- The only thing the con has is that "You can buy both systems." But as I said, that is not the question. He conceds that the games aren't as good or as many, so I win this argument. Blu-Ray- It simply can not be argued that the blu-ray is the future. Blu-ray costs way to much, and the media is not going to switch. I gave examples of the Betamax and the UMD, which both failed miserably. This argument was never responded to. Online Play- I can't find my gaming friends. I can't play any games. This isn't fun. The online and multiplayer capabilities simply don't compare to the other competetors. Also, PS3 is only for certain people who like certain games, while the Wii is bringing in new audiences of gamers. Price- The price is just way too high. Sony loses money for every PS3 they SELL. If anyone wants to see the future of sony, I recommend not buying a PS3, because it is causing Sony to crash. Bloomberg says Sony is losing $664 Million in the final quater. You can say what you want, but the facts speak louder: Nintendo DS: 471,000 Nintendo Wii: 360,000 Playstation 2: 194,000 Playstation Portatable: 183,000 Microsoft Xbox 360: 174,000 Nintendo Game Boy advance: 84,000 Sony PlayStation 3: 82,000 (Number of Units sold.)