Women should not hold a ministerial role over men in church

Let's keep this debate apart from debating Catholicism, thank you very much. "This debate is flawed because I don't anyone who cares about the Bible and religion is going to give you an objectively based take on its interpretation." You know what? Too bad my opponent feels that way. I am the instigator and I am allowed to choose what to debate on. I want to debate whether the Bible teaches this or not, so that's what I'll do. It is true that my opponent pointed some things out. But he needs to prove the Bible actually teaches that women can teach men in Church. He has only tried to refute whatever verses I might bring up with a logical argument about "old tradition" and "sexism". Thus, Con has not fulfilled his burden of rebuttal. Now, let us not waste this debate any longer. I will present two verses which prove my point. 1 Timothy 2:12-13 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. Just take verse 12 first. This clearly proves my point. The Bible clearly states that women are not to teach men in church. My opponent may make the argument of "tradition" or "sexism". That is why I included verse 13. It references creation as the reason for this statement. It is a principle, not tradition, not cultural. It is a rock solid verse which proves my point and Con can not refute. But in case you want another verse, here's another one. 1 Corinthians 14:34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Farther along: Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37 If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by the Spirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. This is stating my position, and stating that it is the Lord's command. Clearly even this verse alone is enough to prove my point. Okay, so I have fulfilled my burden of proof: I needed to show a specific verse stating that women should not teach men. Con, on the other hand, has not fulfilled his burden. On this alone I ask that you vote Pro. Secondly, all of Con's speeches can not refute these verses. What follows after them qualifies them to be used in this way. Alas, this is the last round of this debate. Since I am the instigator, Con gets the last word. But realize that what he says in the next speech, I can not refute since it is the last word. Please be watchful for new arguments. The only thing he may do is respond to what I've said in this round. That includes the verses. He may not bring up his own verses as he has failed to do so in the past rounds. I would ask that you, as the voter, put personal bias aside on this issue. If you want, you can disregard all other rounds as we were arguing about catholicism rather than the actual debate at hand. Whether you believe my position or not, you must look at what we have written and see who has fulfilled their burden. Con has obviously not since he has not brought up any proof on his side, but I have. Con pretty much can not win since he has failed to bring up proof and he may not do so in the last round. I would also encourage you to read this after you read Con's last word to see if he really refuted my verses. Even if he did, you should vote Pro because he has not even tried to fulfill his burden while I have. Thank you very much for reading and voting on this debate. I thank also my opponent for what turned out to be more of a squabble about religions :)