Counter Point to the Kindergarten Cookie Ration argument

1. Marxism doesn't hold that the community is brought together as a family simply out of the need for a sense of belonging. Marx thought things would naturally play out into communism as conflict between classes of people played out. Communism was supposed to be born out of the realization and understanding that the previous systems created problems that most of the community didn't want to suffer through. Problems like the oppression and exploitation of the majority poorer classes of people by the the few in the wealthy class. The community was to understand that the disparity would cause a division that would ultimately cause the failure of society. And no, communities don't need Starbucks and McDonalds, that statement is short sighted and caused by your ethno and chronocentrism. There have been and are plenty of governments and societies that are just fine without the type of constructs you just mentioned. Your point is that you cannot force the community, but that is exactly what every government does by imposing law. My point is that a community under Communism cannot be simply forced to comply by law; the people need to be educated in regard to necessity of the system. 2. Sure, Capitalism isn't inherently greedy but it allows greed to thrive and Capitalism can thrive with the greed. You state that it isn't harmful greed. This means to me that you have been taught, or at least conditioned, to accept greed to some extent; and to some degree see it as good or at least acceptable. I have been taught otherwise. I've been taught that greed is bad and unacceptable. Which is why I comeback to education being the real flaw of communism. Also your statement that the rich getting rich doesn't come with them oppressing poor people due to laws preventing such acts. If the rich make the laws then they can make laws in a way that allows them to do what they want. Even if capitalism isn't designed to have the rich oppress the poor does it fail when they do? No, because it isn't a system that requires the masses be educated to reject the existence of such behavior. Capitalism thrives in the absence of education because it allows the accumulation of wealth by any means so long as the majority of others remain ignorant of what you are really doing. A communist society succeeds when everyone is aware and sensitive to the needs of everyone around them and prioritizes those needs. That sensitivity and awareness along with the understanding to work for the needs of many comes with education. Capitalism succeeds when at least a few can figure out how to manipulate a mass of ignorant people to work out their own schemes. Forms of manipulation can include reward systems. Capitalism has set itself a low bar in order to succeed and can be maintained without educating the masses. The people don't need to understand how their actions or inaction affects the group because there is no massive group. The real flaw of Communism is that it sets the bar too high and the only way to maintain that level is to educate the people. 3. Yes, you can tell parents what to teach their kids and no, its not treason. Treason is dictated by governmental law, so if a government says it's not treason then it isn't treason. No, the government doesn't have to represent the people. A government can represent the ideals and principles that should guide the people. Your ideology of what a government should do is not shared by everyone. And yes, any ideology that is taught by the parents, the school, the state, the media, will spread, will succeed, it happens with anything. But education, or even indoctrination, into those ideals is the real flaw of communism because communism's success relies so heavily upon it. Without the education to understand the communities ideals and one's place in the community there is no communism.