Jesus Is God

In the first and second round, I have been trying to prove Jesus is not God according to the christians Bible, in this round, I will solidify my points by extending my references outside the Bible coupled with logic. The pro should note that I have been making my arguments using biblical references because I believe that is what he believes in. My reasons for arguing that Jesus is not God are not confined to the Bible JESUS IN JUDAISM In Judaism, Jesus is not believed to be God. Judaism has never accepted any of the claimed fulfillments of prophecy that Christianity attributes to Jesus. Judaism also forbids the worship of a person as a form of idolatry, since the central belief of Judaism is the absolute unity and singularity of God . The belief that Jesus is God , the Son of God , or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish theology. Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the messiah. [7] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, messiah or saint. Belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity .To read more about what the Jewish talmud say about Jesus, go here https://en.m.wikipedia.org... JESUS IN ISLAM Islam honors all the prophets who were sent to mankind. Muslims respect all prophets in general, but Jesus in particular, because he was one of the prophets who foretold the coming of Muhammad. Muslims, too, await the second coming of Jesus. They consider him one of the greatest of Allah's prophets to mankind. A Muslim does not refer to him simply as "Jesus," but normally adds the phrase "peace be upon him" as a sign of respect. In the Quran , there are many stories about the life and teachings of Jesus Christ (called 'Isa in Arabic). The Quran recalls his miraculous birth, his teachings, the miracles he performed by God's permission, and his life as a respected prophet of God. The Quran also repeatedly reminds that Jesus was a human prophet sent by God, not part of God Himself. I will quote some Quran verses that talks about Jesus below ; [Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah(God) . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. Holy Qur'an: Maryam (19:30) - http://www.muslimpro.com... "Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. See Also: Do Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Jesus? His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" (5:75). "He [Jesus] said: 'I am indeed a servant of God. He has given me revelation and made me a prophet; He has made me blessed wheresoever I be; and He has enjoined on me prayer and charity as long as I live. He has made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable. So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!' Such was Jesus the son of Mary. It is a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is" (19:30-35). I will also use humor (like the pro claimed to do in his third round of argument) to proof that it is not only polytheistic to say Jesus is God but also irrational, preposterous and illogical. The pro is a trinitarian Christian and he believes in the Bible. While making this point, I am agreeing to disagree that Jesus is God. Since Jesus is God, then God is Jesus and then, we can write God instead of Jesus in a sentence. Let's see how it is going to fit in biblical verses. Since Jesus is God, I will be writing God instead of Jesus in the following biblical verse and anywhere Jesus referred to God, I will replace with myself or me. I quote ; <<<<>>>>>>><<<>> http://bible.com... And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Since Jesus is God, we can write the verse this way "mat.27.46.kjv And about the ninth hour GOD cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, myself, myself , why have I forsaken myself ? ~~~~~~~ http://bible.com... Jesus wept. Since Jesus is God, we may also write, "jhn.11.35.kjv GOD WEPT"........ The crying God. ~~~~~ http://bible.com... The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. Since Jesus is God, the verse can also be written like this "act.3.13.kjv The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son GOD ; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. AND LASTLY http://bible.com... And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. since Jesus is God, the verse can be rewritten this way http://bible.com... And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and God , whom thou hast sent. ~~~~~ Does it make any sense?? Well, trinitarian Christians are not expecting the theory of trinity to make sense to those who do not believe that Jesus is God as the pro said in his second argument that it is complicated. The question is why will a God decide to make his concept sound irrational, illogical and complicated. None of the disciples of Jesus christ believed in the concept of trinity. None of them called him God . Christians do claim Thomas recognised Jesus to be God that's why he said "My lord and my God! " when he saw Jesus after the CRUCI-FICTION. this is false, the exclamation of Thomas is similar to say oh my God! Or oh my Goodness!!! Nowhere in the Bible or any other book did Jesus call himself GOD. The early Christians never called Jesus God. Even in this century, jehovah witnesses and other unitarian Christian denominations do not believe jesus to be God. Every explicit scripture shows that at every point of his existence Jesus has a God over him and he was less than Almighty God (Micah.5:2-4; John.14:28; 20:17; Mark.13:32; Rom.15:6; Rev.3:2,12). At the highest position he will ever attain, Jesus is still "subject" to *GOD*. It is unfortunate that I can type a maximum of 10,000 words, I reached the max and I had to delete some points having never touched trinity. If the pro would like to have a debate on trinity, I will gladly challenge him nevertheless, I will make some points on it. The word trinity is no where to be found in the Bible. No disciple of Jesus believed in trinity.The only way someone can believe that Jesus is Almighty God is to ignore the clear, explicit statements of the his/her Bible and accept incorrect interpretations based on ignorance of the facts. Trinity wasn't preached by Jesus. Tertullian, sabellianism, first council of nicea 20 May to 19 Jun, AD 325, council of constantinople all contributed to formation of trinity. I would have loved to debut it all in this debate but I can't type more than 10k words. Here's a link to study more about trinityhttp://plato.stanford.edu... Ask a Christian ; Is Jesus God? A=YES son of God? A=YES Son of MAN? A=YES he died? A=YES God rose him up? A=Yes Lamb of God? A=YES. I stop here with this verse John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Jesus never claimed to be God, if Jesus ever claimed to be God, please bring your proof!!!