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Tobacco Smoking Should Be More Actively Discouraged by the National Government

Glad to see someone who can beat me in a debate.Premise 1: ceded.Premise 2: The government should not interfere with the health sector, as it is incapble of managing it effectively. The government should recognize that it lacks the ability to successfully manage national healthcare, and stay out of it: leaving it to the private sector and the "Cash for Care" ideology. The goernment should not additionally fund the health sector.Premise 3: I am uncertain if you are disagreeing, as you have posted something about capitalism, and financials. Health aids in your employability - and therefore you income. A sickly worker in an inefficient worker.Presmise 4: Money doesn't go unspent - even saving is delayed spending. While they are addicting, this is an unfortunately side effect, not a benefit to the economy. Citizens will find something more healthy to spend their money on - like chocolate, caffeine intake, or maybe put it towards some good use. Maybe the government could raise taxes to claim this much money from the average person - but that would come with other weaknesses, so it may not be a good plan.Resolve: The goal of the resolve is merely to improve the status quo - and even if it is not 100% erasure of the tobacco industry. The money spent on cigarrettes alone could be spent on the following things: https://www.thepennyhoarder.com...The goal of the resolve is not to please everyone, but to benefit the country as a whole. Tobacco trade is a weak trade that takes agricultural effort that could be dedicated to another subject: corn for ethanol, wheat, soy products, a great variety of more useful substances.I will respond to your premises: it is your right in debate and I'm glad to read.P1: Apparently leaflets aren't working well enough. They have helped - but we can make a final push to help end mainsteream tobacco smoking in our youth. P2: Focusing on immigrants (legal and illegal) is not going to solve the problem. Suicide is a precursor to a nation's destruction historically - we can't cover up that historical lesson.P3: This has nothing to do with the debate - irrelevant if its true or not. I refuse to comment on such an irrelevant position.The government has the best resources to enable us to spread resources and awareness about addictions and addiction help. Fiot would indicate that the government WILL take the action - irrelevant of any real life facts.
Tobacco Smoking Should Be More Actively Discouraged by the National Government

I accept, I had to especially because I did my uni dissertation on the marketing aspects of smoking last year. Anyhow, let's review your rather weak premises shall we... Premise 1: Tobacco smoking is injurious to health-YES, smoking certainly has more cons than pros. Premise 2:' It is the duty of government to encourage the success of its citizens by multiple means'.-NO, government's number one priority is to get you in to employment,so you contribute to taxes, not pamper us. If this was the case the health sector would not be so fvcked. In depth, to finance the health sector means budget cutbacks on other sectors, such as the military sector. AND we all know how much the western world loves a good old fashion war on terrorism. Premise 3:' Improving health is a way of improving the probability of success'- This is a capitalistic world mate, ie survival of the (financially) fittest. Today, wealth and popularity trumps looking after other people. 'Premise 4: Discouraging injurious activity encourages health'- Ok but you do realise drugs such as tobacco and alcohol stimulate the economy. 'RESOLVE: It is the duty of the government to discourage the use of tobacco, in order to help their citizens reach their goals.'-IS IT THOUGH? IT'S NOT A RESOLUTION, IT'S AN UNATTAINABLE WISH MON FRERE. Simply put government can't please everyone.Again esp. bc Tobacco trade stimulates our economies. Allow me to make premises from the government's pov. (slightly exaggerated but it's true regardless). P1- Tobacco kills, find ways to quit by yourself if you don't want to die, here have a leaflet about our local services and support groups. P2-Sooo many of our people are killing themselves, but oh wait those bloody immigrants are stealing your jobs, lets focus on them instead! P3-I wander if we can reduce women's pay again on a sly without people realising! Here's an actual truth, more than half of all addicts simply don't have the resources and access to learn more about addiction. That's the stinger. So sure we can sit here n complain government don't care, but it's up to us Bro to help raise this awareness.
Tobacco Smoking Should Be More Actively Discouraged by the National Government

Sources: https://www.cdc.gov...https://betobaccofree.hhs.gov...http://www.treatobacco.net... Premise 1: Tobacco smoking is injurious to healthPremise 2: It is the duty of government to encourage the success of its citizens by multiple means.Premise 3: Improving health is away of improving the probability of successPremise 4: Discouraging injurious activity encourages healthRESOLVE: It is the duty of the government to discourage the use of tobacco, in order to help their citizens reach their goals.There are lots of options to disagree - just please make an argument clear with what premise you disagree with. There are valid alternatives - and I'm not certain that I stand with this side in reality. All takers welcome!
Meaning, purpose, and value cannot be filled without God

Let's start with the syllogism: 1.Without God, there cannot be objective meaning, purpose, or value in life 2. God exists 3. Therefore, there is objective meaning, purpose, or values in our lives. Let's define meaning, purpose, and value. Meaning has to do with significance, why something matters. Value has to do with good and evil, right and wrong. Purpose has to do with a goal, the reason for something. Without objective meaning, no one's reason can be better than someone else's reason. There would be no reason to applaud Mother Teresa's reason and condemn Hitler's reasons. Without value, there would be no moral difference between the actions of Mother Teresa and Hitler. There would be no way or reason to determine what's right and wrong. Furthermore, the universe doesn't have a purpose. It's continuing on and eventually, all the energy will be used up and it will die. If the universe has no purpose than our individual lives have no purpose. So why would we spend time trying to achieve great things? If you wanted to avoid the conclusion that you need a God to have meaning, value, and purpose, you could argue: 1. If God does not exist, there cannot be any objective purpose, meaning, or value in our lives. 2. God does not exist. 3. Therefore, there is no objective meaning, purpose, or values in our lives.
Impromptu 8

B) Unsaved people will NOT go to the lake of fire. By "unsaved" i am assuming you are reffering to those who have not been saved by Christ. (Salvation is more or less an exclusive christian thing) And I maintain that, being there no proof that Christianity has any more claim to people's souls than any other religion, It is entirely possible that the "unsaved" (such as myself) will rot in the Jewish Purgatory. Or be reincarnated as a chicken, as in the Hindu belief. There is no concrete evidence to support your claim nor mine, so because you cannot change my own beliefs and I cannot change yours, this particular arguement has no other option other than to end in a tie. Next?
Newman should have been tried on "Seinfeld" finale

You agreed a few times with the point that the gang deserved jail time, for example in "The Finale" and in "The Rye". Also, just another clarification, not regarding the context of the debate, making racist remarks does not constitute a hate crime. If I were to say racist remarks to someone, that is not a hate crime, that is my thought. I cannot be penalized for what I believe. One more thing, just for voting purposes, not for me arguing, when voting, the PRO must have proved that Newman did deserve to be tried, while the gang did not deserve jail time. And if people are wondering why I am not refuting in this round it is because I spoke first.
Newman should have been tried on "Seinfeld" finale

I will start with why I believe Newman should not have been tried on the finale of "Seinfeld", and because I am arguing first, I will waive my 3rd round argument. So I will argue in rounds 1 and 2 while the PRO argues in rounds 2 and 3. Newman is a fun-loving character on the popular 90's sitcom, "Seinfeld". Newman worked a respectable job as a mail-carrier for the United States Postal Service. Newman did not commit any crime that would make him be put up for trial Newman had a good job and was well respected by his piers. Also, Newman was very generous to the other workers for the USPS. This can be shown in the episode "The Frozen Yogurt". This was when Newman decided to buy all of his co-workers frozen yogurt. Also, there is nothing that can be shown by the PRO side that would make Newman guilty of a crime. Newman had respect for the law and would never brake it. Also, my opponent states that Newman should have been tried, rather than Jerry, Kramer, Elaine, and George. However, as it was shown in the case in "The Finale" the gang had a track record of bad behavior and did in fact break the law. Newman, however neither committed a crime, but has a track record of being a good citizen, and a great employee of the United States Postal Service. Also, to be tried, Newman must be believed to have committed a crime, and if no crime can be shown by the PRO team, then the voters should vote in favor of the CON team. If Newman should have been tried, then I ask one simple question to the PRO side. For what crime?
Osama Bin Laden should not have being killed.

There is no guarantee lives would have been saved by trying to extract information from OBL. whos to say he even would have given any information, torture isnt an option as the US doesnt condone it. OBL saw the SEALS ran from them and was planning on fighting them, the mission was based more on revenge than trying to capture him and use him. im positive the people involved in the planning of this mission thought of capturing OBL, but it clearly wasnt in their best interest.
Osama Bin Laden should not have being killed.

first of all, you are right it was the NAVY SEALS, not marines, my mistake. http://dsc.discovery.com... that is the link for part of the simulation of what happened in the compound, there was a one hour special on the discovery channel.(http://dsc.discovery.com...) - at look at OBL's compund Now, all over the US, special forces teams (SEALS, SWAT, MARINES, etc.) are rarely given orders to simply wound a suspect or target. If in a situation a target is reaching for, not potential weapon but deffinetly one that can cause such harm as an AK-47 (research how he obtained his famous AK) its rare that the suspect would be given warning shots or wound shots. There is no proof or other intel to suggest that more innocent lives are going to be lost now that OBL is dead, and if he was captured and detained somewhere, whether the location would have been disclosed or not, it would have posed a great risk for citizens or innocent people that may be nearby OBL's potential place of captivity. if a counter attack would have been made by al-queda that would be more dangerous than eliminating OBL in terms of the public's safety, and now al-queda wouldn't have as much to fight for, unless they attempt to avenge his death. It was suggested that OBL and the Pakistan government were working together as his mansion like compound was only some hundred kilometers away from the capital of Pakistan, Islamabad. the seals had to use custom made helicopters for the mission to be sure they weren't detected and that OBL would not be tipped of by a mole in the government, if the Pakistan government would have found out about the operation or if the seals we compromised then the Pakistan army would have immediately scrambled jets to relieve the presence of the seals. All that being said, there would most likely of been counter attacks made by al-queda to demand the release of OBL, attacks that would probably of been made on highly populated areas of the US where innocent civilians are living. keep in mind that is their preferred way of getting a message across (9/11, suicide bombings)
Osama Bin Laden should not have being killed.

First of all I would request that you detach your emotions for one moment and look at the situation from a strategic and efficient perspective. Also as far as I was aware the report on the operation has not being released as of yet.(could you please post a link ?) The idea that you should kill OBL on such flimsy grounds as reaching for a potential weapon when you have your finger on the trigger and have the skill to line up a head shot is ridiculous. (What's wrong with shot to wound?) In may own opinion orders should have being given to kill him only if his escape was imminent. OBL would have a lot of intel and it is possible that some of that intel would have saved innocent lives. With that in mind, would the life a navy SEAL who is willing to give their life to defend the united states be worth the cost of many more other wise preventable deaths. The point of his capture provoking an attack in rather outlandish if you think about it. His death will cause more out rage because now he a Martyr for the cause. If we had captured him instead we could at least put him on trial and show people what he had done, which may have removing his saint like status in the eyes of some al-Qaeda members. How can you say some one deserves to die what gives you the arbitrarily take lives, alas this is a battle for another time. strategically it just means more sense to capture him even if there is collateral, I really think it would have payed off.
Osama Bin Laden should not have being killed.

the killing of OBL was justified, when the marines entered the compund they received heavy fire from many different insurgents in the building and when they came upon OBL's room he yelled words at them in arabic and then reached his arm out to his side, only then was he killed, he received two shots from the marine force, one to the body and one to the head. Beside him was his AK-47. i think it would have caused more trouble and problems if he was captured because his followers would have demanded for his release and much more violence would have ensued. He is a monster and has done many terrible things in his life, in my opinion he deserves to be dead b ut the whole burial at sea is kind of weird and suspicious which raises many questions.
Osama Bin Laden should not have being killed.

The killing of Osama Bin Laden (OBL) was impractical and seems to me to be emotionally driven rather then driven of necessity on the part of the United States Government. Would it not be of greater strategic advantage to capture OBL rather than merely eliminate him. After all he was the leader of al-Qaeda. Even if men where lost it seems you would have more to gain then to lose. The whole approach to the assassination seems ill-befitting a developed country such as the United states. (Especially of one who puts so much emphasis on equality and rights of people.) What makes this even worse (ethically at least) is that the president himself endorsed reveling in OBL's demise. In short OBL's death is a loss both strategically and morally on the part American government.
Logical-Master is extremely annoying and obnoxious.

Tell me, how do you not interpret "Logical Master is obnoxious" as an insult? The last time I checked, a deliberate show of disrespect towards someone was called an insult. In the debating community, that's called an "ad Hominid" argument. How can you base annoyance purely on one's Presidential pick? You don't have to agree on it (I don't) but I hardly think that it's horrible enough to instantly not like someone. And my name is FalseReality. Does that mean that reality is false? Not necessarily (although it probably is). I see that crazypenguine, Littleweasel, Theskeptic, Astrofan and Ragnar_Rahl are online right now. Do thier screen names have to be exactly on the dot about how they are? I'm sure crazypenguine is not a crazy anthropomorphic penguin, or that Theskeptic really skeptisizes everything. The screen names on this site don't necessarily need to mean anything, they are just there to sound cool. It gives people a chance to vigilantisize themselves from their normal, boring lives. For instance, I work at Staples. I'm a nobody. Logical Master is a __(insert job)__, and people probably don't really notice him. Yet here we can be special, noteworthy, and unique. The screen names just make us into memorable icons that others in this small community can remember us by. Nothing else. I don't see how this is any more annoying pertaining to him than any other person on this site. I'll need evidence from you to support this argument.
Logical-Master is extremely annoying and obnoxious.

Your icon is an inverted American flag. This, to me, as a proud American, is extremely annoying and obnoxious by itself. However, this debate is about Logical-Master. As I know, you are allowed to express opinions on this site. This is my opinion, not an insult. Everyone on here is allowed to make debates about me and express their opinion about me freely, so I will do as I wish in expressing my opinions. Anyone who claims to support Barack Obama, given the fact that he is not qualified to be President in the slightest, is just extremely obnoxious. Also, the name "Logical-Master" is very immature, seeing as how his name is supposedly saying that he is a "master of logic". However, he supports Barack Obama for President, therefore, he is not a master of logic. Also, he has repeatedly insulted me in the past, with no provocation, therefore, he is annoying.
Logical-Master is extremely annoying and obnoxious.

I don't think Logical Master is either annoying or obnoxious Other people actually make more debates about him than he does: http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... (I DID THAT LAST ONE!!!!!) While to date, Logical Master has made 3 directly about himself http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... http://www.debate.org... His name is not irritating at all. I'd rather think or type "Logical Master" than, say bfitz1307 08suchiyar uj320 bripur06.11 Not that I have anything against these guys, but really, aren't their names more difficult to pronounce and write? I find that much more annoying. Okay, so he's an Obama supporter, not everyone's perfect (CHUCK BALDWIN! WHOOO!) Nothings wrong with being a Christian, it just means you've found a way to preoccupy your spare time. I know if I was a christian, I'd rather spend my time praying than staring at a wall. SO overall, Logical Master is not extremely annoying or obnoxious, just confused about who really should be president. On the flip side, it seems extremly annoying to me that you feel the need to go out of your way and make a debate like this. Really, being a troll is about as bad as it gets.
Logical-Master is extremely annoying and obnoxious.

Logical-Master is extremely annoying and obnoxious. He makes debates like "the instigator should go out on a debate with Logic-Master", yeah, referring to himself by his username. His username is extremely irritating and obnoxious as well. A name like logic-master? Please. Also, he's an Obama supporter. I do not like Obama, and I never have. He also is a christian, and it's hard to take any christian seriously.
Rapp Battle Omega

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Rapp Battle Omega

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Rapp Battle Omega

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Rapp Battle Omega

The first battle was a wash and this one's no different. I would take more damage from a starved 3 day old infant. You stepped it up a hair but your bullets still make no indents. You're falling short, Like a midget slap gag artist who's too intense While you're talking about truces, I'm swiftly walking out, Deuces! I wouldn't give the middle ground if you had a million excuses. I'm here to beat you down verbally, So prepare for abuses. I'll crush your wordplay routinely, Until It deflates and it oozes. You think you'll live to see the eclipse, You should worry about seeing the day light. You don't even know I'm destroying you, While I'm doing it in plain sight. You're obviously out of your mind, There's no way that you're picking a sane fight. But in the end it was just a trap, Because I'm the one who wanted to Play Right? I'm The Play Writer and if you don't get your Rhymes Tighter. I'll take you down with a Jet Fighter of Rhymes that are significantly Brighter. Now let me whip out my lighter and set this whole place of Fire. Collapse your foundation around you and make un upside down Quagmire.