There Is No Proof of God

Qur'an's recital I don't really see how the fact that the Qur'an is the most recited thing really points to the fact of it being true. The fact that it is recited across the world so much really just proves that millions upon millions believe it, and clearly a bunch of people believing something doesn't mean it's true. Qu'ran's preservation -You claimed that the Qur'an has, word for word, been preserved, but you didn't give any evidence for it. Is there any contemporary evidence from around the time it was compiled that proves your claim? And can you prove the memorization prior to it being written didn't even fall slightly victim to error? I don't see the logic in using preservation to prove it's true, if you need to assume it's true to believe that it was perfectly preserved (that God didn't let memory error happen). Same thing with 2 people having it memorized and reconstructing it without the original source. -If you say that the Gospel/Torah have not been perfectly preserved, you're digging your own grave in my opinion. The Qur'an says that Allah gave Jesus the Gospel, and Moses the Torah (Sura 5:46 & 2:87), and that Jesus and his life weren't the same as Christianity teaches. In Islam, he is a created being (Sura 3:59), did not die (4:157),and is not the Son of God (9:30). But there is absolutely 0 evidence of such a gospel book existing. The Bible hasn't been perfectly preserved, but it has never had the exact same story as Islam. This all shows that 1) If he exists, Allah decided to purposely deceive people about Jesus' death, causing the biggest shirk-committing religion ever, that will lead billions to Hell, and he decides to send a final prophet that shows the error of Christianity... Over 500 years later. The question a Muslim should ask themselves is: If Allah will allow his true religion to become corrupted, and erase all evidence of the original message of his prophet existing, twice, in a row with the Torah and Gospel, what justification would you have for believing he didn't a third time? The answer: He isn't real. No one who is "The Truth" and "The All-Compassionate" would do what Islam claims God does.And if you believe the Bible has been perfectly persevered, you're still digging your own grave. If Allah gave the Torah and Gospel in truth, and they are preserved, it would follow that the claims the Gospel makes about Jesus are true, which would mean Islam is not. It becomes a huge contradiction. (That can't be used as an argument for Christianity though, since you'd be using Islam to reach that conclusion) Linguistic Miracle You said "This book is such that when the pagan Arabs heard it was enough for them to embrace Islam because they knew that no man could have come up with words of such beauty, power and uniqueness. The Qur'an challenges mankind that if you believe that this book came from anyone else than Allah bring one chapter like it and they could never do it."And that's not a good reason to believe. You have to assume that it's a message from God in the first place to believe that no man could've came up with it. Many people find just as much beauty, power, and uniqueness in the Bible, but that hasn't convinced you to become a Christian. How you feel about people claiming Christianity is full of those things is how I feel about Islam. Bringing a chapter like the Qur'an is a challenge that's impossible to meet the standards of. To Muslims, the Qur'an is perfect, so through their lens it's impossible to create anything comparable to it. You can't say "No matter what you do, at all, you will never pass this challenge." and claim to have proved your belief when they don't pass the challenge. The argument only works if you already believe in Islam. Scientific Accuracy Human Embryo - Don't you think the chewed substance thing is a stretch? It says a chewed substance, not looks like a chewed substance (I'm addressing the first link you sent). And it's basing that it looks like a chewed substance on the relatively recent invention of gum, which isn't the only thing that qualifies as a chewed substance. And secondly, the rest of the description of embryonic development says "then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation". Any ounce of research would tell you that bone that is forming is always "clothed" with flesh because they develop at the same time, while this verse states that the bones are clothed with flesh after they are fashioned.Mountain Roots - How have mountains stabilized the Earth like the verse says? Many/Most mountains are caused by the tectonic plates themselves. Moon Reflecting Light - I don't see how "Luminous Moon" as it says in Sura Furqan 25:61 (some translations just say Moon giving light) is the same thing as the Moon reflecting light Spherical Earth - Again, I don't see how "He spread the Earth" in Sura 79:30 is the saying the Earth is spherical. And even then, the idea that it was round existed from at least the 6th century B.C. Universe Expansion - The Qur'an calls the heavens a roof (21:32) that can fall on the Earth (22:65). Either you're interpreting your verse wrong or it's a contradiction. Unique Fingertips - The verse you cited says "Yea, We have the power to restore his very finger-tips.". This makes no claim that all fingerprints are unique Water Cycle - Every single verse you mentioned to support this doesn't describe the water cycle at all. I'm not going to go through all of them one by one, because we both have seen them, and the reader can look themselves, but if they look at them without any confirmation bias they're not going see anything that a 6th century man couldn't have said (How does "And We have sent the fertilizing winds and sent down water from the sky and given you drink from it. And you are not its retainers" describe the Water Cycle?) The only thing that even remotely points to the water cycle is Sura Al-Mu'minun verse 18, and claiming that Allah can take away the water after rain comes isn't really a scientific revelation when everyone since the beginning of mankind could observe puddles dissipating. End Times Prophecy (I'm not going into whether the prophecies are from accurate Hadith or whether they're being misinterpreted, they're all getting benefit of the doubt)-Even if something like buildings becoming taller than mountains does happen, that doesn't prove that the prediction that it would happen is divinely inspired. Can you explain why saying that Islam isn't true (which I would say is a claim that I've supported), but because we now have the ability to make such tall buildings, they were built in Mecca for convenience, or to say that because the Muslim population there, it was bound to happen as a sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy because it's now possible, is less reasonable than claiming that it's a divinely inspired prophecy that came true?-For the Dish thing, I really don't want to comment on that because debunking that goes into the Arabic, and I don't want to pretend to know anything about that. But just because I can't answer this one prophecy, that doesn't mean everything else I said is invalidated. If you're claiming a book is perfect, one thing potentially being right doesn't prove it, but proving one thing wrong would prove it isn't perfect.-Prophecies like sexual promiscuity and mocking are barely even real prophecies. Every single generation is full of sexually promiscuous people and mockers. There will always be new diseases that no one has heard of. Families get divided all the time. Prophecies like "the end of time won't come until people would dance late into the night" aren't so miraculous, when any given group of people throughout history can do that. I'm really not going to talk about this more for now because my time limit would run out if I went into detail about every prophecy you mentioned. Immaterial Existence You said "The intellect is immaterial and this is why we don't know where we go when we dream, but we know that we leave this place and we enter into another realm". The intellect is not material, but we do know where we go when we dream: Nowhere. All evidence shows that it's going on in our brains and not in another realm. Can you show my statement to be wrong? And besides that, whether or not intellect is an immaterial and/or "spiritual" thing says nothing about whether God is real or not.You said "Numbers don't exist in the world. Where did the number 2 come from? Well there is 1 plus 2 which equals 3. They are not in the world, the mind put them together. Where did that come from?". Numbers aren't material, and the mind came up with it, but it isn't a spiritual concept, and they have proof of concept (Numbers/Math have clearly benefited us and have proved to a reliable concept). Because of that, it doesn't have to do with an Atheist saying that you shouldn't believe in God because God is supposedly immaterial (again, because Math isn't a spiritual concept), which I myself think is silly to say, so at least for me, if you're using this argument from this point forward it would be a straw man. Muhammad In Bible No verse you cited mentions Muhammad.Muhammad's Name - I'm guessing you're talking about Song of Songs 5:16 (Correct me if I'm wrong) Which says "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.". The word for "Altogether lovely" is pronounced Ma-ha-mad-im, which Muslims claim is Muhammad, with the "im" being there as a plural of respect. So if all of this were true, the verse's correct reading would be "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is Muhammad". The problem with this is the context of the chapter (and Song of Songs in general). If you read it, it's a woman describing her lover. Read verses 4-5, then tell me she's talking about Muhammad. I'm stopping now because my word limit ran out... https://www.biblegateway.com...