In a fight, Voldemort and Dumbledore would beat Megatron and Optimus Prime.

Rebuttals: All right, most of this debate has narrowed down to whether or not wizards have the reaction time equal to the speed of light. Thus, if I manage to prove this, I ultimately win this debate, since it would counter both of my opponent’s arguments and render many of his rebuttals useless. In the source that discusses what speed spells move at, it is unanimous that spells should move at the speed of light. They have every reason to believe so; however, one factor keeps arising that leads people to believe spells cannot move at the speed of light—the fact that wizards themselves cannot move at the speed of light. I would like to point out that neither Megatron nor Optimus have ever shown any capabilities of being able to move at the speed of light, yet they have managed to dodge and block laser blasts that are shot at them. Thus, unless there is other evidence suggesting these two robots can move at the speed of light, we must assume that the lasers Megatron and Optimus shoot cannot move at the speed of light. Otherwise, they and other transformers would never have been able to dodge and block lasers shot at them. It is the same situation in Star Wars. Human Jedi have managed to block a countless amount of lasers, yet they are only human. There is no logical explanation as to how they are able to react in such a fast way. After all, if we apply my opponent’s reasoning, then we have to assume the lasers in Star Wars also do not move at the speed of light. My opponent’s reasoning went something like this (although, I am formatting it so that it will work with this scenario) - “Can you or I move at the speed of light? The answer is no. Now, if I was able to wield the force does that mean I could move at the speed of light? Again, the answer is no.” As you can see, I simply used my opponent’s reasoning against him. While Megatron and Optimus are both alien robots that can move extremely fast, they have never been able to move at the speed of light. Thus, if my opponent assumes that spells do not move at the speed of light simply because wizards cannot react fast enough, then the same reasoning should apply to the two robots and countless other movies. To further back my argument that spells can move at the speed of light, I put several sources to demonstrate just how fast spells move. My opponent, however, disregarded my sources as entertainment factors to make the movie look epic. As my opponent does so, he made a statement that struck me as odd. He claimed, “Sure, they look fast, but in reality, how fast can they be?” The problem with this statement is that none of what we are discussing is reality. Tell me, does wizards fighting giant robots with spells that defy several of our scientific laws (as shown in source [4]) sound like reality to you? I think it sounds a bit more like fiction if you ask me. Moving aside from the obvious, I would like to remind my opponent that there are two main sources of Harry Potter—movies and books. Since my opponent has disregarded the movie sources as unreliable, we shall turn to the origin of Harry Potter. In the books, they always describe a spell as “a flash of light”. It is common knowledge among most people that spells move at the speed of light; thus, wizards have a reaction time equal to that of the speed of light. Otherwise, they would not be able to block and dodge the spells shot at them. Now that I have successfully defended my point, I shall move on toward the more trivial matters of the debate. 1. Starscream did see Sam. Look at 30 seconds to 45 seconds, he is looking directly at Sam. Actually, there is reason to believe that spells are just that—pure energy forms [4] (this is not a new source, I already posted it earlier in round two). Thus, because wizards block and cast spells (pure energy forms) on a daily basis, it is logical to assume they can do the same with lasers. In addition, in the fourth book of the Harry Potter series, Voldemort forces Harry to bow down before him. He did not use the imperio curse, but instead Harry describes it as if a giant hand had forced him to bend his back. Thus, Voldemort and Dumbledore could use this strange form of magic to deflect any other projectiles heading toward them. Now, I would like to point out that while Megatron and Optimus are more powerful than Starscream, Dumbledore and Voldemort are much more powerful than Sam will ever be. I would now like to direct your attention to my opponent’s statement, “The grappling hook does not seem to cause any damage”. Judging by his pain filled screams in the video, combined with the fact that he was half-blind, leads me to conclude that it had done some significant damage and is not the equivalent of a mosquito biting me. Not to mention the spell stupefy is the equivalent of a small explosion (which does more damage than a grappling hook) when used by Dumbledore and Voldemort. 2. The point of this example was simply to show that a big-huge explosion would be effective against Megatron or Optimus. While you may not be able to dodge the explosive placed on your head, I already explained that both wizards are likely to hit the two robots. In addition, shooting an explosive at one’s head and placing an explosive on one’s are not very different. In fact, they are quite similar, since both are hitting/exploding the head. 3. Optimus does not have the ability to level a whole city block in one blast. Do not forget that Optimus is only armed with his gun and sword. Throughout all the comics, cartoons, and movies, I have never seen Optimus once manage to destroy a whole city block with either of these weapons. Optimus is simply equal to Megatron in the area of fighting, tactics, wisdom, speed, etc. Megatron has a better weapon than Optimus’s normal gun that simply shoots lasers. I keep stating that apparating would be useful because the two wizards can use this ability to dodge anything thrown at them. I have already explained that wizards have the reaction time equal to the speed of light and can cast spells at the speed of light as well. Not to mention that Voldemort and Dumbledore can hide behind buildings/rubble, fire a spell and apparate yet again. 5. This spell has been used on inferi in the 6th book in the Harry Potter series. Inferi are not alive; thus, this spell can be used on non-living things. Besides, if there is an object that can move, then this spell will work on it, living or not. 6. Who said anything about creating something out of nothing? Please note that on the site I gave about conjuration and transfiguration, it stated that objects can be created into being; however, they will disappear over time. This spell has been used before by Ron’s mother to bring food out of seemingly “nothingness”. Thus, this spell would work. Now, I would like to point out that it is a beginner’s mistake to turn only part of an object into something else. I am positive Dumbledore and Voldemort can accomplish a beginner’s mistake. In addition, Dumbledore and Voldemort could transform Megatron and Optimus into giant brick walls of the exact same mass if they tried hard enough. Thus, it would be easier than changing something as huge as Optimus into as something as small as a bunny rabbit, since you would be changing him into something of the exact same size. I am sure the two wizards could pull it off, considering they are the most powerful wizards of all time and one of them has the most powerful wand of all time. Now, in case my opponent attacks my confundo argument, I would like to point out that cunfondo has been used on the Goblet of Fire (a non-living object) in the fourth book by Barty Crouch; thus, it can be used on things such as the two robots. Conclusion: This has been a really fun debate and I am sorry for making such hastily made rebuttals, as I have been very busy (staying up until midnight) with work. My opponent has proven to be an excellent debater, and I hope we can have another debate even better than this one!