LM Classic: mongeese vs. Yraelz

Thank you for responding. I will now address each of your contentions. Contention 1: Yu-Gi-Oh cards Please watch Video 1 (4:55) to see Bakura using the Millennium Ring to use Chain Energy to bind Pegasus' guards. Yes, they can be summoned through holograms, but they can also be summoned through magic. The guards were not at all dueling Bakura. Bakura just decided to draw his card and use it, which is the situation we have here. For more duel monster summoning, see Video 2 (7:40). http://www.youtube.com... http://www.youtube.com... Contention 2: Atem Yugi received the Millennium Rod after he defeated Marik. http://yugioh.wikia.com... "Marik gives Yugi the Millennium Rod and The Winged Dragon of Ra." My opponent then implies that using dual-characters (characters with two minds instead of one) is supposed to be illegal. However, this would contradict the immense number of dual-characters that have been allowed, including the Hulk (http://www.debate.org...), used by the creator of UTW himself, so it is fairly obvious that dual-characters are allowed. Don't worry, though - I'm not going to have them occupy two different bodies. They'll remain in one body, which is what is needed to be legal in this game. Contention 3: Kirby The canon that I specified at the very beginning of this entire thing, on the thread that lists everybody's chosen canons, I chose the anime to be Kirby's canon. Since my opponent's first two arguments only relate to the games. The third one is actually false. He's eaten things and gained more power than the thing had in the first place. The example is Waddle-Doos. Kirby's Beam attack is even more powerful than a Waddle-Doo's. Contention 4: Dominion Rod The one thing that all of those statues have in common is the fact that they're hollow. An owl statue, at one point, could not be taken over, because it wasn't hollow yet. The Statue of Liberty is also hollow. Its head is actually a room. Now, back to the original outline: 1. Mind Control My opponent's arguments here only deal with the Rod, and not any of the cards, so he's going to need more arguments here. My opponent cites the incident with Joey breaking free. However, one must remember that he was wearing the Millennium Puzzle at the time (http://yugioh.wikia.com...), and it has been seen that Millennium Items can cancel each other's powers. So, unless Team CON can get any Millennium Items, or other magical items like Millennium Items, the Millennium Rod will take them all over. My opponent also tries to use Black Alice, but if Black Alice is among the mind-controlled, then this plan really doesn't work. Now, my opponent slips in Emma's mind-controlling powers. However, Yugi has two minds, which would make this task much more difficult, as it would be the exact same scenario as the Hulk's. 2. Swords of Revealing Light a. "He possesses super-human speed, making him easily able to evade or catch bullets, and through flight he can travel to the sun and back in a matter of minutes." This is the only mention of his speed. Now, evading bullets is not the same as crossing New York City, and travelling to the sun in a matter of minutes is no faster than light, which can go 93 million miles in 8.3 minutes. So, unless "minutes" can be specified, his speed is uncertain. Furthermore, he probably relies on acceleration to reach light-speed, and travelling in a straight line is much easier than travelling a precise distance, turning a precise angle, travelling again, and finally killing something. Therefore, the Sentry really can't speed-blitz in the way my opponent wants him to. b. Already refuted. c. We saw Bakura use Chain Energy on guards. That sure worked. d. That would qualify as an attack, unless somebody else made a move to attack the Sentry, which would actually be in the form of the Dark Magician plus Mystic Box, destroying the Sentry without an actual attack. e. So? 3. Statue of Liberty a. With all of my research, I have found no mentioning of Sephiroth's speed being fast. b. This is simple. He goes to a news stand and grabs a map. Time stops as he does his little raising-map-in-air thing, and as he reads the map. Seriously, time stops as Link reads maps. c. What? Anyways, Mirror Force. d. How will he destroy the indestructible foundation that holds the Statue of Liberty to the ground? 1. Sephiroth a. When Link gets the Sentry's serum thanks to Collected Power, that power gap will be bridged, and Sephiroth will be doomed. b. See argument above. And Link is the only character in the video games that will stop time while reading a map, so it's not just some video game land power. He retains it in New York City. And with Swords of Revealing Light, Sephiroth is not getting his gear back. 2. Emma a. You seem to be implying that Kirby has a brain. Which he doesn't. b. If she turns into diamond form, Link can fire numerous Bomb Arrows at her until he hits her weak stop (between her eyes, perhaps?). 3. Black Alice a. Unless she has super speed, she has no choice. And Yugi can top-deck his cards, because of the heart of the cards. b. See above. c. Yugi doesn't have to get anywhere near Black Alice to send an army of Kuriboh. d. But she's one of the sacrifices. e. Each individual Kuriboh lacks the power of Multiply. That's a card that Yugi is in control of. Besides, she'd explode on contact, so we'd have some epic explosion where all of the Kuribohs and Black Alice explode. 4. Vash a. Refuted above. b. Refuted above. c. Mirror Force, Magic Cylinder, etc. They can all be used to counter that. Besides, he doesn't have a gun. d. They can easily draw cards before Vash can get to them. 5. Sentry a. The source never says that he doesn't have the serum on him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I'm going with what you said originally. b. What makes you think that? Besides, Shadow Spell can hold him in place. It worked on Blue-Eyes Toon Dragon. c. "Can't be countered," eh? That sounds like a no-limit fallacy. Besides, you forgot Link's Magic Armor, and his speed problem. One more thing. Midna is hiding as Link's shadow. How do you intend on killing her? So, in conclusion, cards work, so Yugi and Kaiba can mind-control all of Team CON, or use Collected Power and Swords of Revealing Light to make them essentially worthless. My opponent has not adequately backed up the speed-blitz attempt. He's got some work to do next round.