People only do good things for selfish reasons.

I assume your first point is in response to my 'apology' example. "But it is still technically selfish as they are thinking of them self. "[Analyzing definition of selfish]: lacking consideration for others, Concerned with one's own pleasure. When someone apologizes, Not only are they thinking of their self and what they have done in order to apologize, But they are thinking of the other person which means they have consideration for them to apologize. Selfish wouldn't be the right word for this situation, It would be more like self awareness or self evaluation. Man saving the child[Analyzing definition]The word 'selfish' in this situation doesn't work either because the man has consideration for the child he is saving. It's called being a human being and not wanting another human to die. As you said 'natural desire' which I agree with 100%, But selfish? No. A truly selfish individual wouldn't risk their lives to save a child from a burning building because then, Their life would be at risk because in their head, They are concerned with themselves only -- which perfectly describes what you said "If they did not care about the child's death being on their conscience, That would mean they don't care about the child's death. Therefore, They would not save the child. " What I took from that statement is 1. You think the man not wanting saving the child is not selfish. 2. That you think that's right. But realistically, I know you think that isn't right at all. I also understand that you aren't arguing on the premise of "good or bad" but the way you are formulating your arguments, It seems as though you are saying it's bad. "After all, If you didn't like seeing them happy, You wouldn't do it. " That would equate to being selfish. It has something to do with worrying about one's own self instead of others. "With gratification, The person is doing the act to feel the gratification of it, Therefore making them concerned for themselves" That's a reach. Again, Let's analyze the definition. A person is not selfish if they even do something for someone else in the first place, Because they lack consideration for others. Keep in mind, Selfish people usually expect a large scale things in return. What about the case for a person that does something for someone else and the person says "No need to thank me. "? It's possible to do good for others and/or perhaps be selfless, While at the same time, Receive something back and not be selfish. In other words, Just because a daughter buys her mother a new house after all the years she took care of her, That does not make the mother selfish. "I just accept that in life people are concerned with themselves" Did you not accept it at one point? If it's natural, Then you wouldn't have had to come to a point of acceptance. You say "I just see selfishness as natural" and that it's "human". I think you have a misconception. I'll establish one example of a difference between selfish vs self interest (ones self). Yes, You should worry about yourself, But that does not necessarily mean you are selfish. I found a source that states this:Self interest - a concern for one's own happiness and well-being. Selfishness is different than self-interest. Selfish people tend to be exclusively concerned about only themselves. They don’t care about anyone else and have no regard for other people. Selfish individuals may act in a manner that’s detrimental to others. Having a healthy self-interest doesn’t preclude caring about others. Actually, A strong self-interest is a core component of those who are most concerned about other’s welfare. If you don’t care about yourself, How can you care about others? Source: presspublications(dot)com | Self-interest vs. Selfish; there is a difference (links don't work for me)