The Paradox of the Stone

Con is referring to the typical God of Christianity, correct? By definition in that religion, God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, and perfect. If you are referring to him as such, please say so in the next round. If not, then you should have worded your opening round better because this argument is currently about the God I defined. This paradox poses an interesting question. God is omnipotent so he can do seemingly anything, even create a stone so heavy he cannot lift it. I would like to clear up the weakness for a semantics argument in the original paradox and instead rephrase it to "create a stone impossible for him to lift." The biggest problem in this debate will be how you view omnipotence. The definition of it is "having unlimited power," [1]. Some view omnipotence above all, even placing it above the realms of logic. This would mean God could draw a square circle, make 2+2=5, etc. However, that would be paraconsistent logic and technically against his own law. Others view it within the realm of logic and reason, basically proposing that logic dictates the omnipotence of God. However, God cannot be under the control of logic because he predates the existence of it. As you can see, both views of omnipotence have a flaw. If God can create a stone which is impossible for him to lift, then he is not omnipotent. If he cannot create that stone in the first place, then he is also not omnipotent. However, I'd first like to work my way around the figurative paradox and instead present its literal meaning. The paradox of the stone is literally saying, "God can remove his own omnipotence." This literal interpretation makes sense because it accomplishes what the original paradox does without being much different and is far less confusing. I will now present the paradox with the literal twist. If God is omnipotent, than he can remove his omnipotence (can lift the stone). If God cannot remove his omnipotence (can't life the stone), then he wasn't omnipotent to begin with. God is perfect and the laws (in this debate, logic) which he supposedly created must be as well because we are incapable of violating them; not because we aren't omnipotent but because his laws are perfect. Note that I am not implying everything God creates is perfect. However, we live under the law of logic and have yet to be able to violate it so we must assume it is perfect. If God can defy his own law of logic and lift the stone which he cannot technically lift, then his law is not perfect. This goes deeper into the creation of logic. For example, since God created logic, does it apply to him? Well, everything applies to God because he is the creator of all. I will now go into my contentions. C1: If God is able to lift the stone, then it isn't impossible to lift. This works for the other violations of logic I provided earlier. If you draw a square circle, it isn't a circle. If 2+2=5, it's not 2+2. Of course, we are unable to do either because we aren't omnipotent. God is, however, meaning that he can. If God can lift the stone which he created to be impossible to lift, then the stone is not impossible to lift. Therefore, the same restrictions apply to him as us. We are not omnipotent because of our restrictions and he cannot be either. This would further assert that God could not create the stone to begin with and is therefore not omnipotent. If God is not omnipotent, then he does not exist by definition. C2: God and logic. As to our knowledge, we can't violate logic. Likewise, we know of no other being that can either. To clarify, this paradox is essentially the same thing as asking, "What happens when an unstoppable force (God) meets an immovable object (logic)?" God had to of created logic, otherwise it predates him and that would make God a figure of logic, not a deity which he is now by definition. Either way, God and logic contradict each other. Logic makes all things either possible or impossible. God made all things which should include logic. God's creations must be logical since he created us and we are logical. Therefore, God created logic before humans. If God creates this stone, it falls under his own law of logic. If God creates it to be impossible for him to lift, then he cannot lift it. This is regardless of his omnipotence because he bounded himself when creating logic. Therefore, God is not omnipotent and by definition does not exist. I conclude that the paradox of the stone disproves God.