The Qur'an is not a miracle

You are not Arabic, and you don't speak Arabic. If you could, you would find the Quran miraculous. Is this supposed to support your arguments? Because it seems that only arabs who are masters of 7th century arabic should be convinced that the Quran is a miracle by this logic. Everyone whould learn Arabic before they accept islam as their religion. Unfortunately for you, most muslims don't speak arabic either. So this quranic challenge does not seem to be very well thought out by the All-wise Allah.EVERY single piece of writing can be re-composed, but not the Quran. Even the Bible/Torah or any religious book is not as eloquent. What is your evidence for this? Who judges whether or not a piece of writing has been re-composed? Do you know what re-composed means? "Compose again or differently." Are you saying that the Quran cannot be re-written or or written in a different way? Both of those are laughably incorrect statements.There are more and more scientific facts, if these do not convince you. But what's the point in saying them?Perhaps I won't be convinced because I already demonstrated that these 'miracles' are actually egergious scientific errors. And the point would be to convince people reading the debate, not me. The Quran was revealed in the 7th century, and scientists explored the same facts way later. No proof given for this statement. Not surprised because anyone can easily do their research and find out that such claims are patently untrue.the split of the moon which scientists assured there is a mark that it splitI had hoped that there would be some intelligent people using this website. So far, I haven't seen many. If there are some I hope that they will clearly see how ridiculous and untrue this unsubstantiated claim is. Thanks for posting.Sorry, but the URL you provided is blocked in my country, therefore I could not look at the information. However, I would like you to provide me with a few of Prophet Mohammed's predictions (which are not predictions but revealed facts) you claim are incorrect.Not surprised that a website criticising islam would be banned in a muslim country. No wonder people there believe as you do. In any case one clear example is the fact that in 48:27 the quran claims that the Muslims would perform hajj with peace of mind after the treaty of hudaibiyah. But this was clearly not the case according to books of the seerah such as ibn ishaq's sirat rasulullah and also according to Tabari, which describes that one of the mulsims Abu Jandal was harrassed and this caused dejection amongst the muslims. This is an example of a prophecy being proven false almost immediately after it was made.You are saying that the events that are told in the Holy Quran are predictions! Dude, they are NOT predictions, they are facts that are told by Allah. He knows them because he is the creator of us, he knows what will happen to every single person, every single creature I should say. predictions you say? He is not predicting, he is telling. He told Muslims that they will open Mecca, and they did.The Quran was not written by a supernatural being called Allah. So, you are wrong. And the Muslims 'opening' mecca was not a difficult prediction to make considering the level of violence the muslims were indulging in with mass killings, ambushing and night-time attacks on their sleeping enemies.Since you brought up Prophet Mohammed, I would like to give examples of correct facts revealed by him. Of course Prophet Mohammed would not know them by himself, but Allah revealed them for him by revelation. Prophet Mohammed told that Constantinople will be opened/conquered by Muslims at some point, which happened in the era of the Ottoman Empire. Also, before Prophet Mohammed died, he told his daughter Fatima that she will be the next one to die from his family, and that happened, and a lot more. First of all, these prophecies are not outlined in the quran but in the ahadith, so this is completely off-topic. Please provide the source of the prophecy regarding Fatimah. I am not certain that this is a sahih hadith. Furthermore, I demonstrated that all of these 'prophecies' are more likely to be guesses that came true since this happens all the time. Prophecies have not just been made in the Quran. Many other religions claim the same thing about their scriptures. Should we believe that Hindu scriptures are divine because they have prophecies that people can argue came true?To conclude:You argued that since I don't speak arabic (which is not true since I can read and write arabic, speak it to some extent, have taken introductory classes in quranic arabic and tafseer when i was muslim and afterwards as well, and am fluent in urdu which is derived in part from arabic) I will never appreciate the miraculous nature of the Quran. This is a point that goes against you. Because by this logic, only arabic speakers should be convinced that the quran is a miracle and the vast majority of humanity should not believe in this claim, and the miraculous nature of the quran should not be used as a tool for da'wah to non-arabic speakers.You failed to demonstrate, or even reference verses that illustrate the sientific miracles of the quran.You did not understand my point regarding the idea that it is impossible to judge the beauty of the language of a passage without being subjective. Beauty does lie in the ey of the beholder.You ignored my point regarding the fact that the Quran designates a setting place for the sun, and you demonstrasted that you believe that this is a scientific miracle. The truth is that the sun does not 'set' anywhere (definitely not in a pool of muddy water), it stays in the centre of the solar system. Either you have a very poor knowledge of astronomy or you a very bad command of the English language if you thought this was a point for and not against your arguments.Thanks for the debate. It was more frustrating than rewarding, but I was bored and it passed the time.