The Trinity Doctrine: Three Different Persons, All Equally God, All the Same God

As I have CFL Nationals coming up, this shall be brief. I am going to point out that you dropped ALL of my R2 Scripture. I showed several instances where G-d and Jesus and the Spirit are shown to be multiple different people. You ignored these, and whined that I didn't go to the websites you posted. Yet you didn't post any of the arguments. .. .So its not a drop, its just not arguing. If I go "Well according to my research here, vote AFF" and never read the research, its irrelavent REFUTING YOU AGAIN:: Many Bible Verses Prove Jesus Was Not God There is a direct statement about Jesus being the Son of Jehovah in the Psalms: ". .. He said to me, 'You [Jesus] are my son, today I [Jehovah] have begotten you. " (Psalm 2:7) Jehovah spoke to Jesus, in His pre-human existence, concerning the creation of Adam and Eve: "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness . .. .'" (Genesis 1:26) There were plans, from the beginning, to make Jesus a human as shown in Deuteronomy: ". .. he [Jehovah] will raise up for you a Prophet [Jesus] like me [Moses], an Israeli, a man to whom you must listen and whom you must obey. " (Deuteronomy 18:15, TLB; see also Acts 3:22) During His ministry on Earth, Jesus stated that He taught not His own wisdom, but that of His Father, Jehovah: "For I have not spoken on my own authority; the Father who sent me has himself given me commandment what to say and what to speak. " (John 12:49) There are a large number of Bible verses which can be used to prove that Jesus was not God, but the Son of God. The chapter of this thesis, "VII. Bible Verses Prove Trinity False", lists over a hundred such texts. The Bible, therefore, teaches that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jehovah said He would send His Son and Jesus made the statement that Jehovah was His Father. The Apostles taught these facts. The Bible does not teach that Jesus was Jehovah and neither Jesus nor His followers claimed otherwise. V. The Holy Spirit Probably one of the most accentuated subjects in most Christian religions has been that of the Holy Spirit. It is probably the least understood subject, too. To get the true meaning of the Holy Spirit, we must obtain the true context in which the term is used and, also, harmonize its meaning throughout the Bible. The English word "spirit" is usually translated from the Hebrew (ruach) and Greek (pneuma) words meaning "wind" or "breath,"(19) and by several extended meanings: "dominate feeling," "spirit persons," and "vital or active force. "(20) An example of the Hebrew word trans translated as "wind" is found in Zechariah: ". .. Flee from the land of the north, says the LORD; for I have spread you abroad as the four winds [ruach] of the heavens . .. ." (Zechariah 2:6) In Job is found an example of the same word translated as "air": "One is so near to another that no air [ruach] can come between them. " (Job 41:16) There are numerous scriptures translating the words as "sprit persons": "Then a spirit [ruach] came forward and stood before the LORD . .. ." (1 Kings 22:21) and ". .. immediately there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit [pneuma] . .. ." (Mark 1:23) When the Bible speaks of God's Holy Spirit, it speaks of God's invisible active force. There is no Bible description which indicates that it is a person. A fine example of this idea is expressed in a story about Samson: "Then Samson went down with his father and mother to Timnah, and he came to the vineyards of Timnah. And behold, a young lion roared against him, and the Spirit [ruach] of the LORD came mightily upon him, and he tore the lion asunder as one tears a kid . .. ." (Judges 14:5-6) In the New Testament, "pneuma" is translated as God's Holy Spirit in the book of Romans: "I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey God by what I have said and done -- by the power of signs and miracles, through the power of the Spirit [pneuma] . .. ." (Romans 15:18-19, NIV) God's Invisible Active Force The New Testament "texts reveal God's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God. " Evidence of this is indicted in what the Angel told Mary concerning her upcoming pregnancy: "And the Angel said to her, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you . .. .'" (Luke 1:35; see also Luke 24:49 and John 20:22-23) Some Bible verses also speak of God's Holy Spirit as being the disposition of God, either in Himself or in others. God's disposition can take the form of wisdom, understanding, knowledge, counsel, truth, promise, etc. : "Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might understand the gifts bestowed on us by God. " (1 Corinthians 2:12; see also Isaiah 11:2; John 14:17; 15:26; 16:13; 17:17; Genesis 22:16-18) The idea of the Holy Spirit being part of a "Godhead" was not in the minds of the earliest Church members. The place and character which the Holy Spirit now possesses in Christianity can be credited to the Cappadocians. (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Vol. 15,) It is apparent that the Holy Spirit is not a person as implied by the personal pronoun "he" in some scripture (see John 14:17, KJV), but a power, or force, as correctly indicated by the imprsonal "it" in Romans: "The Spirit itself beareth witness . .. ." (Romans 8:16, KJV) While it can be said that the Holy Spirit reflects personality (that of Jehovah and all who display His attributes), it is obvious, from scriptural research, that the Holy Spirit is not a person. VI. Conclusion Concerning the Christian Trinity concept, J. L. Mckenzie, in his book, Dictionary of the Bible, states: "The Trinity of persons withing the unity of nature is defined in terms of 'person' and 'nature' which are Greek philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. " Research, therefore, proves that even the concept of the Trinity, as taught by Christian religions, did not exist, and could not have existed, during all of Biblical history. The deduction, by factual research and logical reasoning, is that there is absolutely no evidence or proof that there is a Trinity. The evidence, in fact, proves the opposite -- there is definitely not a Trinity. The Father is Jehovah, the Creator of the Universe. The Son is Jesus Christ, begotten by the Father. And the Holy Spirit is God's power -- his active force -- not a person or being. VII. Bible Verses Prove Trinity False Listed below are over a hundred individual Bible verses which prove conclusively that Jesus Christ was not God, but God's Son. * Matthew 3:16-17; 8:29; 11:27; 12:18; 14:33; 16:16-17; 17:5; 27:54 * Mark 5:7; 15:39 * Luke 1:32; 1:35; 8:28; 9:35; 10:22 * John 1:13; 1:18; 1:34; 1:49; 3:16; 5:19-23; 5:37; 6:40; 6:69; 8:18; 8:42; 10:15; 10:36; 11:4; 12:49-50; 14:13; 14:23; 14:28; 16:17; 17:1-16; 20:17; 20:31 * Acts 2:22-24; 3:13; 3:26; 9:20 * Romans 1:4; 5:10; 8:29 * 1 Corinthians 11:3; 15:28 * 2 Corinthians 1:19 * Galatians 4:4 * Philippians 2:9 * Colossians 1:13 * 1 Thessalonians 1:10 * 1 Timothy 2:5 * Hebrews 1:2; 2:9; 4:14; 5:7-8 * 1 Peter 1:3 * 2 Peter 1:17 * 1 John 1:3; 2:22; 3:23; 4:10; 4:14-15; 5:11-12 * 2 John 1:9 * Revelation 2:18 FIN.