BeIR/webis-touche2020 huggingface dataset:
Using a time machine to go back and kill Hitler would be a bad idea.

I thank Kinesis for his prompt reply. ::Rebuttals:: 1. By creating a resolution that makes time travel an obligatory part of the debate, Pro afforded it credence. His attempt to undermine this by attacking an inferred part of the topic discredits both the spirit of our discussion and his stance against semantics. In addition, this paradox is open to numerous rebuttals. It fails to address the possibility that changes in the past are actualized through parallel timelines, that traveling to the past becomes a necessary component of the traveler's future birth, or that no paradox exists so long as the creation of the time machine and the user are not disturbed [1]. 2. Pro downplays Hitler's significance in shaping WWII, despite his role in either capitalizing upon or creating the other potential causes. It was he who broke the Treaty of Versailles, corrupted a weakened Germany, illegally rebuilt its military, abused the League of Nations, sought war against the USSR, and forced greater Europe to declare war [2, see: Hitler's Foreign Policy]. As these elements all hinged on one man, his removal would very likely prevent the escalation of hostilities and pacify the German nuclear program, which was militarized under Nazi command [3, see: 1st & 2nd Uranverein]. 3. The notion that a group with the knowledge and resources to attempt such a significant mission would do so ill-equipped or ignorant of the potential risks (if the nature of the time machine allows for any risks) is illogical. If we are to "hypothesize" that this device exists, we may similarly speculate on its expected properties and the preparation of its users. Pro's selective interpretation of this issue is convenient but insufficient. 4. Pro's qualms concerning damaging the timeline are unfounded, as Hitler's removal essentially guarantees a positive shift in terms of both lives saved and resources available. Familiarity with our timeline does not immediately make it the most favorable, especially considering the abundant benefits of a history sans Hitler. Unless Pro can establish with equal certainty that altering the past would produce a net negative result in the present, his doubts can be disregarded. ::Con's Case:: A Hitler-led Nazi party was an essential component of immeasurable loss; his political savvy expanded Germany's power, his belligerence forced a declaration of war, and his venomous beliefs set off a genocide. Pro has named no other individual or group with the necessary capability, opportunity, and intent to spark war in Europe and prompt ethnic cleansing, meaning the resulting death and destruction remain attributable to Hitler. ::References:: 1. http://en.wikipedia.org... 2. http://www.bbc.co.uk... 3. http://en.wikipedia.org...-
Using a time machine to go back and kill Hitler would be a bad idea.

Before I begin, I'd like to apologise for putting a character limit on the debate. I only have limited time, and I didn't want this debate to turn into an 8000 character slog fest. With that said; -- Counter rebuttals -- 1. My opponent claims that he need not refute the grandfather paradox because it is 'implied' that time travel is possible. For a start, this is irrelevant; because the argument upholds the resolution, he must refute it, or he effectively concedes the debate regardless of what is implied, and secondly, the resolution implies no such thing. Where in the resolution does it say we are only to consider the 'ramifications' of time travel? The resolution claims the whole package, including time travel, is a bad idea. 2. Many factors, not just Hitler's ambitions, led to the Second World War. Most obviously, the First World War, the Treaty of Versailles, the Dawes Plan, the Great Depression, the Japanese invasion of Manchuria and the dithering of the League of Nations. [1] Taking all these factors into account, it is quite probable that the war would have started even without Hitler. Perhaps the war would not start as quickly without Hitler pushing events along, but that just leaves the door open for a nuclear war. [2] 3. Even striking early on would not remove the risk of the time machine being captured by someone with evil intentions. The fact remains that we are risking time travel technology falling into the hands of a suspicion-filled era rife with patriotism and national rivalry. [3] Hitler isn't the only person who would reak havoc with such power. Also, claiming that the time machine wouldn't work for them is just speculation. All we have hypothesized is a time machine, simply pulling safety features out of thin air doesn't remove the risk. -- My opponents case -- Removing Hitler would by no means prevent the Second World War. If anything, considering the other factors that led to the war, removing Hitler would merely delay the war until even more terrible, destructive weapons were available. No only would removing Hitler open the door for a more competent leader to take control of the war effort, and potentially win the war, but it would also risk an even more terrible war with greater, even nuclear, weapons. -- A fourth argument -- Changing the timeline would drastically change the present. Apart from the logical difficulties (which remain unaddressed), there are moral problems. It would lead to many people never being born, and others with entirely different lives. By changing the past, we would be altering the lives of billions of people. Who has the right to play God in such a way? To wield so much power? Surely, no human has the right to impact so many other people's lives so drastically. [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org... [3] http://en.wikipedia.org...
Using a time machine to go back and kill Hitler would be a bad idea.

Thanks to my opponent for presenting this interesting opportunity. I look forward to discussing this age-old question. ::Rebuttals:: 1. My opponent points to the Grandfather paradox as evidence that time travel to the past is impossible. Of course, given that our task is to consider the ramifications rather than the likelihood of time travel, this point is irrelevant. The nature of the resolution implies its possibility for the sake of our discussion. Our goal is to debate the merits of a hypothetical scenario, not argue the latest scientific theories on time travel. 2. Pro contends that killing Hitler opens the door for more competent officers to take his place. However, any time-hopping assassin worth his salt knows to strike the madman earlier in the timeline, before he spearheads the war effort. Unless my opponent can demonstrate that the atrocities attributed to Hitler were somehow inevitable, we can assume that eliminating him in his youth would effectively prevent these acts. 3. Again, simply adjusting the point at which our assassin strikes completely removes any danger of strengthening the Nazi party. Killing Hitler early enough would actually deliver a devastating blow to the future strengthening of the group. Besides, given the unknown nature of the time machine in question, my opponent assumes too much; it could operate outside our perception of time, require some futuristic power source, become obsolete after use, etc. ::Con's Case:: As my opponent has yet to produce an adequate case in favor of the resolution, my initial argument will be simple. Hitler's disturbing blend of racism, nationalism, and continuous exposure to destructive and prejudiced influences [1] led him to play a pivotal role in the instigation of WWII and the Jewish holocaust [2][3]. By removing him well before he gained such devastating influence, one significantly reduces the likelihood of these acts and their combined death toll of nearly 50 million [4]. With no evidence presented to indicate thess massacres was unavoidable or that altering the timeline would result in greater loss, a time-traveling hit on Hitler is hardly a bad idea. With that, my 3000 characters are up. I'll turn things back to Pro. ::References:: 1. http://en.wikipedia.org... 2. http://thirdreich.net... 3. http://www.gendercide.org... 4. http://warchronicle.com...
President Obama and his administration has abused executive power.

dont get me wrong i hate obama and believe he should be impeached but as a libertarian i also believe in facts. the president has not abused his executive powers. if you look at the executive orders of past presidents obama hasnt issued that much. so far barack obama has issued 168 executive orders and GWB, although he had 8 years and obama has had 5 issued 291. clinton issued 364, and bush 41 issued 166 which is less than obama. but go way back to FDR, he issued 3522 executive orders. coolidge issued 1203 and wilson issued 1803. roosevelt issued 1081. the lowest of any president was 0 which was harrison. a conservative hero like raegan issued 381. truman issued 907 and eisenhower issued 484 so obama hasnt really abused his executive power based on past presidents. but i expect obamas executive orders to hit 200 within the next year. obama has said that where congress doesnt act he will so he may abuse his powers for the rest of his term but so far he has not abused his executive powers. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu...
Rap Battle

Goodness gracious, it's always the same sh!t. Each day I get stronger like I weight lift. I mean, this is what happens when fools come on to me, and try rapping like a bunch of stupid wannabe's. I'm like -- a boom box the way I share these raps, but these P*SSIES are nothing but SCARDEY CATS. It's just -- a little frus-tr-ating when they try to come my way, and then once I get to rapping then okay they're M.I.A. I've only finished a battle a couple of times cuz I cut with my rhymes -- never color in lines, I cover the crimes of other kid's lines cuz they all love mines. I mean mine... but who's gonna correct it? Those who tested me failed and lost their investment. That's the testament of this assess-a-ment. They start off strong and then I leave them des-per-ate, cuz they got it all wrong if they think they've better spit. But enough chatting - there's plenty of evidence. Someone here started rapping and I've been the best ever since. =========================================================================== Alright, clearly the above was just a joke -- I literally just wrote it as I was going on the fly lol. Basically I'm just poking fun at the forfeit but don't expect anything in this round to be judged. Instead you can award conduct points to me automatically and then for the better arguments (verses) just use the first 2 that we did in order to keep it fair and have our 2 verses competing instead of doing 3 on 2. Thanks, Pro, and good luck!
Rap Battle

== VERSE 2 == Oh, alright... so it's time to get personal Murk this jerk for what it's worth and then I'll Disperse of this verse like squirt in a urinal I drive you worse than a hearse at your funeral Your coffin's tossed in with flowers in the back seat You call me Austin Powers cuz you wanna shag me Why else would you brag about heat that you pack It must eat you alive, all those inches you lack You've got nothing I couldn't add on with a strap That's why Ho Ho Ho's like to sit on my lap I could clap - even with 2 hands behind my back Then I'd slap - you around like a snare or hi-hat I snatch like Venus fly trap, try to fight that I mean this, you're no match, I'm on the right track Now look - it's obvious, your vexed up jealousy That's cuz out of us you're the b!tch when you're next to me All I need's a pen to beef, I'm a Titan, Tennessee Fighting with my might cuz I'm right, it's my destiny But I think you got all kinds of personal problems Dude if YOUR d!ck's shrinking then I think you should solve em And not project your issues on to other people Just cuz I tend to get under your skin like a needle So I'm calling you out like I'm taking the class roll You can call me a thong cuz I expose you, a$shole Yo listen to what I told ya, cuz you heard right I take your sh!t over like I'm in the Third Reich You think you go farther cuz you father the hype But I said I'm like Biggie cuz I'm larger than life And why'd he hate being compared to a dyke Just cuz getting p*ssy's what we both like? Oh, I get it, now I know you're into men That must be why you blow with a d!ck or a pen Your only female attention's found from a les-bian Got the e-mail my round's due, now I impale you again You're not my friend so don't pretend that you know me You're like a glass window, I see through you, you're phoney So you might as well forfeit this futile endeavor Award me the winner cuz I'm brutally clever And beautiful, I'll dutifully rule this forever The usual ruse you pull's never better Cuz - I dissect your organs like Dexter Morgan You won't pay me a compliment cuz you can't afford em Your sh!t is dead, post-mortem, ever boring Overdose on the dopest dope like a moron I'm told I'm perpetually conceptually greater Wrote down your best ideas, that's why it's Blank on the paper == NEXT ROUND == Again I'll allow my opponent to choose whatever topic he wants for the final verse. I will most likely either choose between politics or a third person story.
Rap Battle

Yo my name is blank for those who don't know This rap has taken a turn to becoming a diss show L paved the way, round 2 fired the first shot with the war proposal L i expected better, but i guess like austin powers- You lost your MOJO I'm Blank i spit raps like fire, its very simple don't test me b1tch All the ladies swarm me like I'm a model from Aberocrombie and Fitch I got some over excited d1ke who's got no business on the mic Your raps made my eyes bleed, here let me shed some light If biggie came back to life he would die again because he found out he got compared to a WHITE lesbian Tyra Banks is just a copy of the Oprah Winfrey show L is just a shining example of another b1tch who's unoriginal Calling me soulja boy I like that, but are your forreal? It seems like you just begging me to make you my soulja girl haha its okay L the mic is not the only way i can give pleasure I got something in my pants that can't even be measured Tired of you spitting about your street smarts Ain't that a trait for hookers - before they start? I sat here wondering why all your raps fvcking suck and blow I'm sorry, my bad, i mixed your raps with your career though For all the males on DDO, L is Brooklyn's number one Hoe making d1cks shrink for a dollar, LOOK Kids its a magic show! This beef war has started you made it happen like Contraception Now i gotta let my raps do the terminatin like a doctor and abortions Your highness, step back and make way for the KING your rule is over your just my second string Cause I outrank you in every system known to man WE ain't on the same level now do you understand? You just a rookie who's got no business playing the expert mode only way you gonna beat me is with some motherfvcking cheat codes If rappers had jersey than i be rocking twenty three (Jordan) I'm sorry but your just inferior at least lyrically
Rap Battle

So of course I'm waiting until the very last minute to do this lol. I have just a few minutes to post and it's nearly 3AM. That said, I kind of did this in a semi-battle style, simply playing off of my opponent's first verse. I'm not sure if I want to submit a topic or just have him go again free-style, so I'll leave it up to discussion for the Comments Section (we can decide if we want to assign topics or keep it optional). == VERSE 1 == Check the mirror, glorious, I like what I see To be clearer I'm Notorious like B.I.G. They wanna steal my thunder and take my ID So no wonder they're going under like HIV Yeah Danielle, that's me, like the MLB And you're Triple A so I'm outta your league I pass your rhymes well, they're as old as Roy Don't Ask Don't Tell you gay Soulja Boy ... Alright that was low so let's put it behind us But you're beneath me so you can just call me Your Highness The thief he can try it but the I'm chief of the tribe Have a seat, I'm the driver, you're just along for the ride It's shotgun, keep it, but you shoot dire Blanks My victorious secret -- I'm cute like Tyra Banks Except admittedly I'm not America's Sweetheart You can't get rid of me cuz I'm book AND street smart Quick as a whip and sharp as a tack Equipped with the wit and heart to fight back A star from the start with no plans to stop Sorry you're the man but I like it on top Many try to imitate but can never duplicate me That's why so many in a group all hafta hate me I don't blame them one bit - I'm Miss Threatening My alias could be Dennis cuz I'm so mennacing So don't underestimate, that was your first mistake Talking sh!t about Cleveland like I could relate My papers don't need to be torn and shred Cuz N.Y.C's where I was born and bred A city slicker - that's why I'm a bit quicker You spit word vomit like you can't hold your liquor Meanwhile I was raised on the streets of New York It's evident that I'm heaven-sent when I talk This flow just spews out of me: strong and articulate You're wrong if you think you can win if I spit String you along til you break down and quit I'ma keep singing this song and make you my b!tch
Rap Battle

Identity theft Look our for your info, you think your safe but u really aint though Hackers gonna try to get your sh1t, just like sex and nymphos It's very simple, don't share your info People who trust internet ads are just stupid people This ain't a joke though, people going through your trash Trying anything to get at your cash Just like a player trying to get yo numbers My ID could say Danielle (if that really is your name), but my name is really Favors Beware of your papers, put it in the shredder Cause these b1tches are really crazy just like the Joker You won't say im delirious by asking me "why so serious?" When i see you broke, i be asking you just because I'm curious (sarcastically) If someone takes your wallet, don't expect a hero Expect when you check your bank to read a big fat ZERO You be on the street beggin little kids to share their cheerios The cops find these thieves as fast as Netzero Don't trust your friends, even if you love them Anyone can be bought, inevitable like sweat in a gym Don't me stupid like a rapper hackers are like a hoe with a turkey baster You be staring at your bill screaming "That aint mine!" Your credit cards are your babies, kidnappings a crime People are fueled by greed, its b1tch but it's reality Just like Cleveland and twenty three I only got a little time to post, I'm sorry if it suck I only got so much time so ehhh WTF
Rap Battle

Thanks, Blank! Because I've had to go first in just about 99% of the battles I've done on this site, I'll allow my opponent to start the first verse. He can rap about anything of his choosing. For my first verse I will do the same, and if my opponent agrees (we can discuss it in the comments section first) maybe we can come up with some topics or themes for the next verse. If that's the case, I'll let my opponent know at the end of my round. For now I vote free reign :) Good luck to my opponent!
Rap Battle

I have read many of the rap battle on this site. I would like to try it too. Like this one http://www.debate.org... Rule. We both must compose a original personal rap in each round If my opponent would like to start they may, or if they would like me to start that is also acceptable, anyway is fine. Have as much fun as possible. If my opponent would like to do some kind alternative rap battle like instead of the usual insult rap battle we can rap about a topic of each others choosing, that is also acceptable. Please use the 2nd round to tell me what kind of battle you would like. But this is a rap battle follow the rules. This is a writing battle not a video battle, I do not have a webcam or anything so don't make a video battle.
premarital sex not forbidden by the bible

1 John verse you describe seems to be stating that 'everything' that is a fleshly desire is from the world. that includes pleasures that no one would describe as being sinful. so whether we should include premarital sex into that category or the sinful category is yet to be established. Yes, certainly there are grey-area sins that some Christians think are sin (or cause for sin that makes it a sin itself) that other Christians don’t, obviously Amish do on technology. The thing with premarital sex I can’t think of where it is edifying to the spirit, and not just to the flesh. Obviously procreation (SEX) with a wife has been a command by God “be fruitful and multiply”, but never has sex outside of marriage ever been commanded. If you receive no revelations from God to do it, than you do it to please the flesh and not the spirit. Job may have made a personal covenant. much like people never get married as a personal covenant. doesn't mean it's applicable to all. also, we don't know what exactly that covenant entails as it could entail just going to far. coveting, more precisely. no one thinks mere desires for something you don't own that is another's is sinful. it's when it goes too far that is the problem. that's what the definition of covet is in most bibles too. You are correct that it doesn’t necessary follow logically. The point was more like it wasn’t consistent with the patriarchs of righteousness, as I don’t really picture them as looking at porn all day, or enjoying premarital sex for that matter. But out of curiosity can a man be considered pure in heart if he obsessively craves the vagina of a woman? There is a modern term for that, "perverts". “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” (Matthew 5:8) con's argument about why Jesus chose adultery is a plausible scenario, sure. but, i gave definitions for the words Jesus used, 'woman' 'covet' etc that show what Jesus could have very reasonably meant. and it would better reconcile why he used adultery, and would reconile with the ten commandments etc. Yes you did give definitions, I pointed out that there was an alternate on covet by the Merriam-Webster online dictionary (Though not saying translators should use covet, as it might be confusing). And woman I pointed out that It’s not wife, because Greek doesn’t have a word that distinguishes the word “wife” like in English, you have to use multiple words (e.g. “his woman” = wife in Greek), but the Greek is clearly just talking about a “woman”. The thing is, if Jesus meant that, why didn’t he make it more clear? In Greek it sounds like it does in English “whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery…” You go up to someones door during that time and say that, that's just how it sounds like in greek.
premarital sex not forbidden by the bible

1 John verse you describe seems to be stating that 'everything' that is a fleshly desire is from the world. that includes pleasures that no one would describe as being sinful. so whether we should include premarital sex into that category or the sinful category is yet to be established. Job may have made a personal covenant. much like people never get married as a personal covenant. doesn't mean it's applicable to all. also, we don't know what exactly that covenant entails as it could entail just going to far. coveting, more precisely. no one thinks mere desires for something you don't own that is another's is sinful. it's when it goes too far that is the problem. that's what the definition of covet is in most bibles too. con's argument about why Jesus chose adultery is a plausible scenario, sure. but, i gave definitions for the words Jesus used, 'woman' 'covet' etc that show what Jesus could have very reasonably meant. and it would better reconcile why he used adultery, and would reconile with the ten commandments etc. con has some compelling arguments in the rest of his points. (to the point of possible concession) all i can really do aside from not conceding is stand behind what i've said as he has not 'necessarily' negated what i've said.