Euthanasia should be legal

Many apologies for missing my round, I was away for the night and thought I'd be able to respond on my phone or another computer but was unable to do so. Hopefully you (and the voters) can see past this and at the very most deduct me a conduct point, which I would not complain about at all. Considering this is the last round, I will not bring up any new arguments, and I will only create rebuttals for yours.Thanks.State of MindUsing your own logic, one can argue that if someone were to have any feelings at all, they would not be in the right state of mind to make an informed decision. Just because depression is an excessive feeling of sadness, guilt, misery, any bad feeling, doesn't mean that person is unable to make rational decisions. The end result to being euthanized due to depression would be a good one, or at least the person would think it's a good one, considering that's what they want to happen, and they would no longer be depressed. That's really as much as they need - knowing that they will be better off dead, and fulfilling their hopes of actually being dead. The only thing that can be argued is that we (the non-depressed people) can think of ways that they can be happy, but like I've said before, we aren't them.I also can not for the life of me find anything that says the majority of people seeking euthanasia suffer depression - the only thing I found was simply saying that there "cases exist where doctors administer assisted suicide for people determined to be "chronically" depressed" [1]. Nothing for numbers, percentages, death rate, etc.PersuasionJust because not everyone seeking euthanasia due to illness or physical pain doesn't mean they are seeking it because someone is telling them to. You provided a source for the fact that euthanasia rates are going up, however you didn't provide a source for your more important point. You're saying if euthanasia was legal, more and more people wouldn't want to be euthanized? I fail to see how you can come to that conclusion. I'm not usually the kind of guy to beg for sources, but you claimed that "the fact that the large majority of people are readily influenced by other people," without backing that up with a single source. So I'd have to dismiss that as an anecdotal argument, although I agree that lots of people do base their actions on how others would react, you failed to explain how this can be related to euthanasia - a much more serious action.Like I said before, the doctor does not decide who lives and dies, he simply does what is allowed by law. If euthanasia is legal, and somebody wants to die, and fulfills all legal terms, the doctor should not start asking his own questions or questioning what he's doing. Someone wants to die, let them die. It would be a different story if they didn't want to die, but if someone is coercing them to accept euthanizing, a criminal investigation can easily be executed."Could," is the key word in your ideas. Some people could expect the elderly to accept euthanizing, but that number could be very low, as I have not seen any sources claim that anyone is being euthanized for someone else's gain. And finally, this comes down to moral values again. "Is this a society that values the elderly?" Why sure. However you brought up a good reason why the elderly should be put down - they're consuming resources. They're taking up money, time, medical staff, medical machinery, and much more. Some people would be sad, some people would not. Would we lose anything as a society if the elderly died a bit earlier if they weren't contributing anything to society? Sure, some people would be sad for a bit, but that's about it. And if we want to advance the human race, legalising euthanasia and not spending time and money on non-contributing members of society is not beneficial in the grand scheme of things.DepressionDepression being temporary is once again only beneficial to us if the person decides to continue with the euthanasia process. He/she thinks they're in a better place, and that's all that matters. If we can talk the person into continuing to try to be happy, great, if not, then they can escape. No matter the outcome, the depressed person is satisfied. You're turning it into you being dissatisfied, and you're forgetting about the actual person seeking euthanizing. If someone is not in the "right state of mind" to make sensible decisions, they still made a decision, and they do feel it is the right one, whether or not you think it's a good decision or not. And by "they can't regret it," I mean they're dead - the last thing they though was "I'm glad I'm going through with this."I wasn't referring to euthanasia being highly recommended, I was referring to treatment if they're in a mental state that isn't considered healthy. Being given time to consider even works for your argument, considering you say people with mental health issues, or people who are currently unable to make rational decisions based on their current mental state, can't currently make rational decisions, so give 'em some time!You're right that I do make an assumption on death, however my assumption is based on calculated decisions, reasoning, and my idea (as well as scientists' ideas) of how the brain works. Electrons firing and neurons receiving is (most likely) what creates a conscience. Without that, we have no conscience, and there is nothing. However you're right, this is still just an idea, as we have really no way of figuring out first hand what happens after we die.The difference between you not wanting yourself to make an irrational decision if you're not in the right frame of mind, and making a decision while being in that frame of mind, is that while you're making that decision, under imperfect mental health, you think it's a good one, and you do die thinking/"knowing" you've made the right decision. If I all of a sudden wanted to die, I'd hope I could, as that's what I want. I mean obviously I'd fight the urge and seek help, but I would know what I want because... well, that's what I want.ConclusionIf we base our ideas of euthanization off moral values and what society gains/loses from the person's euthanization process, we have one final conclusion - we feel bad if someone dies, but it's their choice. Most of the time they save money and time by accepting death. And a combination of both; we think they could have done more, although they saved us money and time and medical machinery, and in the end it was their choice, and no matter the mental state, they died happy and "knowing" what they did is what they wanted.As I said before, I won't bring up any new arguments, and I do apologize for missing the last round. I'm glad we had a good debate, I wasn't expecting something as well thought-out and intriguing as this.So thanks again for a good debate! Glad we could actually get something done here.[1] http://www.terrisfight.org...