Circumcision at Birth

Remind me, Which ad hominem was that? Deny facts you say? Well they're not just facts simply because you assert them. What facts am I denying and what is your justification to prove that I am denying facts? What government documents going to do? You do realized that I steelmanned your argument right? I already claimed that even if I granted you benefits, It still wouldn't justify violating autonomy. But I'll add an extra point on top of that. Most of the benefits you allude to don't even matter until they get older, So there is no reason to do it when they're babies. You claim that babies don't feel pain, That's false and you don't have a proof for that because medical science heavily disagrees with you. Hmm. Petty insults. How vanilla. I don't blame you for getting frustrated. I can tell that you're kind of new to structured debates. This isn't youtube. Here in philosophy land, We prefer our claims to be justified over the table. One cannot simply slap down any old piece of paper to prove their point. You need an argument behind why I should accept your piece of paper. Can I provide the testimony of a random doctor? No. Can the audience. Yes. It can be verified by either checking medical surveys. I don't use sources because I don't make claims that aren't in the old noggin already. I have enough faith in the voters to do their own research and I could care less about getting source points. Aahhh, More insults. It's okay. I know that being a greenhorn in a debate is difficult. But this will toughen you up and maybe you'll learn a few debating tricks like not being married to your beliefs for instance. Nice question dodge. Your disease you keep spouting is the strongest point you have and it's still quite weak. It's a preventable disease caused by environmental factors and circumcision is literally the worst way to deal with it. Honestly, I am sincerely sorry that you were tricked into believing this myths. You might end up needing therapy for it in the future as a lot of people who get circumcisions do. Just to show how vacuous your phimosis example is. I could say, All people who grow up with eyeballs run the risk of getting eyeball infections, So we should cut them out. Sure it's painful and takes away a part of our body that we use, But it prevents eyeball infections right? Small piece of life advice, Remove the word stupid from your vocabulary as it ends up being a reflexive term in the end if you catch my drift. I don't have to read your evidence and you don't get to tell me how to argue. Even with your evidence, You don't meet the BoP. "a couple of EXTREMELY minor and unproven medical benefits do not supersede autonomy even if they're true" The fact that you can't directly address this concept shows why it defeats your argument. I'm not married to it, But I would need a good reason to change my position because my current position has so much evidence. Why would I change positions without any good evidence? Yes, You have told me 4 times. You know what they call that. Argument ad nauseum. Which is to assert the same thing repeatedly until your opponent gets sick of it and ignores you. It's a cheap tactic that people use when they don't have a tenable position. I don't think you realized that I told you I have 3 un circumcised boys. I know a lot about foreskin hygiene and I know that the condition you mentioned is preventable and also rare when good hygiene is practice. Furthermore, There are other treatments for it that are less harmful. Honestly, You put just a tad too much faith in doctors. You do realize that doctors don't know this much better than we do right? They know the medical end better. But as far as statistic go, They cite whatever garbage their boss tells them to. lol You said: "Your case is not more common. Over 70% of males in the US are circumsized. " You realized that I said I'm circumcised right? Open your ears man. What I mean by common case was newborn circumcision. A question, Can you provide an argument of your own that doesn't rely on an article pasting. It seems you think debates are won by pasting articles and then saying they're facts. You're sorely mistaken. Your floor.