Modern Day Christians Oppose The Bible.

O Observations The title cannot be true because its self contradictory "Modern Day Christians Oppose The Bible. ". If you oppose the bible then you're not a Christian, naturally. "I want my opponent to act as if the divinity of Jesus and the Trinity are proved, for the sake of argument. " No problem. My opponent has the burden of proof. O Pro Argument 1. "Don't fail to correct your children. They won't die if you spank them. Physical discipline may well save them from death" – Proverbs 23:13 – 14 [ (See also 13:24, 22:15 and 20:30) I will exclude those since I can make my point with one verse besides anyone can add thousands of erroneous verses] o Meaning of this verse Its better to have a good child then an imprisoned child. Now if the child is reasonable and not wild then we can use Paul's advice " Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged. " Colossians 3:21 "Most modern day Christians Campaign against the very thing the Bible states is good for the child. " Perhaps you mean child abuse ? Indeed, child abuse is frowned upon for good reasons but child abuse does not equal corporal punishment. Which is still practiced legally (in some places of the world): . http://en.wikipedia.org... "The most likely rebuttal by my opponent will be that either 'The Old Testament is outdated' " You brought up a good point. The times are changing, the law and Jesus teachings remain, however, due to changing times the way we apply the teachings of the Bible may change. In the times of the old testament and many centuries after proverbs was written, one was not counted as successful if he had the best stable of horses or the most lavish house but if one had a full stomach. Many, many people struggled with survival hence corporal punishment was more of a necessary solution than a option unless you don't want to address the problem at all. Nowadays in first world countries we can use the alternative methods though as the proverb passage suggests we shouldn't become soft - that would be a terrible mistake. . http://arkh.files.wordpress.com... 2. "However all over the Old Testament and the New Testament we find evidence that slavery is generally accepted in the eyes of God" Hebrew slavery: 1. In extreme poverty, they might sell their liberty (Leviticus 25:39). 2. A father might sell his children into servitude (Exodus 21:7). 3. In the case of bankruptcy, a man might become servant to his creditors (2 Kings 4:1). 4. If a thief had nothing with which to pay proper restitution (Exodus 22:3-4). In all of these cases slavery is not forced but is a mere solution. Number two is not technically an exception since what kind of father would do that ? Someone who would abuse their child or even murder them (considering the times he can give an adequate excuse to himself though its still immoral). Yes, Yahweh did provide laws such as ""He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death. " (Exodus 21:16)". Indeed, the word "slave" is very broad word. Also the this poor child: "2. A father might sell his children into servitude (Exodus 21:7). " Will not suffer this: "And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake. "Exodus 21:26-7 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________________________________"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. " Galatians 3:28 __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 3. "Many Christians will tell you that there is never a reason to Murder anyone and in fact will claim that any Murder is against god and a Sin. " There's a difference between murder and kill: . http://www.godandscience.org... I will address the first and the last example for the sake of space besides I don't have to answer every example to prove my point. "Exodus 22:17 (Kill the Sorceress's)" = Firstly its verse 18 and not 17. Secondly, "This was considered a severe enough threat that sorcery was considered a capital crime. The link between drugs and the occult was rightly seen as deadly. " David Guzik "Romans 1:24-32 (Kill the Homosexuals and Infidels)" = Where does God command death. It does say that they deserve death, however, not as specifically as my opponent wants you to think: "being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. " A Bible commenter: "This begins a passage where Paul describes the sin and corruption of the pagan world with an amazing directness - so direct that Spurgeon thought this passage unfit for public reading. "This first chapter of the Epistle to the Romans is a dreadful portion of the Word of God. I should hardly like to read it all through aloud; it is not intended to be so used. Read it at home, and be startled at the awful vices of the Gentile world. " (Spurgeon) Obviously, people who follow Christ or have not seen Christ but their heart loves the law of God won't die nor will their ways disappear which is why they are alive with God ; they are life. Sinners are not so, they are like chaff and their deception and obvious spreading of misinformation shall grant them eternal death. Amen. (Inspired by the first psalm). Thank you all and please spread this.