Jews and Christians worship the same God

Your passion is clear and your message is focused. As a messianic Jew (or at least one that understands them well). .. you have made many very good arguments. With the exception, I don't think you understand what I'm trying to argue for. .. Jesus is not the son of YHWH YHWH and the Trinity are two entirely separate entities. Of course, by saying that the Tanakh and the New Testament are 100% true in the same framework, this would mean polytheism, but for the sake of this argument, that's allowed, because we're arguing from different frameworks, and each framework argues for monotheism (as they are mutually exclusive). I am not a Jew myself, nor have an in-depth understanding of why they don't accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. According to . http://www.aish.com... this is a list of reasons why 1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies. 2. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah. 3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations. 4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation. 1: The Messiah was to A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28). B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6). C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore. " (Isaiah 2:4) D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world ― on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9). You can follow up on the others, as I don't want to waste space. .. but I think it is suffice to say that although Jesus had many characteristics of the Messiah prophesied in the Tanakh, he did not match them all. .. and thus. .. he is not the Messiah prophesied in the Tanakh Regardless, you are arguing from a Messianic Jew standpoint, and not a Jew standpoint. You must at least agree that the Jewish people today do not consider Jesus as the Messiah, and thus. . as Christians view him as divine, Jews believe that Christians worship a different god (YHWH =/= Jesus from the Jew perspective) Onto Christianity, I will start with this, in the Greek version, nowhere does it say YHWH, JHVH, or any other form of the tetragrammaton. Jews often also use the term Adonai (Lord) or HaShem(the Name) to identify their god. YHWH specifically is listed 6,828 times in the Old Testament, but NONE in the New Testament. Terms like Adonai (Lord) are generic terms and can be used in many contexts. The only way to be perfectly clear to identify the Lord and YHWH as one in the same would be to use his proper name YHWH. Of course, YHWH was forbidden for use outside of in the Temple by the High Priest, but if these are Religious text that are supposed to be clear and meaningful. . it would make sense to use his Name (YHWH) and not his title (Adonai). Also, as Christians are not forbidden to use the term YHWH, it is curious that they never used it. It most certainly opens the door that possibly when they refer to "the Lord", they are not talking about YHWH. So what else? Luke 24:46-47 - "[Jesus] told them, "This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations" Except. .. that ISN'T written anywhere in the Tanakh. .. so what exactly is Jesus referring to here? What Messiah had it been written about that would die and be resurrected (Psalm 16:10 is NOT talking about the Messiah)? and would forgive sins (the Messiah was to ERASE sin, not forgive it. . there's a clear difference there). . let alone that the Tanakh does not say the Messiah will cause forgiveness of sin to be preach among all the nations. .. Clearly, in this instance, he is speaking about a different prophesied Messiah than the one that is Prophesied in the Tanakh. John 5:46 "If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. " - This is a strong argument, but it's too vague. .. Deuteronomy 18:15-22 identifies a Prophet, but no mention of a Messiah. .. so, you can be in line with Judaism and say "Jesus was the Prophet of whom Moses spoke". . but maybe Jesus isn't referring to this prophecy (if you are a Christian, you should believe this). I can not tell you which prophecy, as there are many that can be attributed to him that don't cancel the idea that Jesus is not the Son of YHWH, but the Son of some other God. So, in all of this. . I agree with everything in the New Testament. .. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Here they are describing the Christian God, the Trinity. Which is very much not the same god as YHWH, as I've explained. Psalm 33 :6 By the Word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. Here, as the capitalized LORD is translated from YHWH (as it always is) they are referring to YHWH and not the Trinity. These are both true within their context. Which is true from the perspective of the real world? As I am neither a Christian, nor a Jew, I say neither. .. but that is irrelevant to my case. I'm arguing what is true within the confines of each separate religion. I would like to note as well, that Jesus had a perfectly good time to announce who he was (if he was, in fact, YHWH). .. John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am! " A GREAT time to announce "Before Abraham was born, YHWH". . but he doesn't. . he used the Greek term "ego eimi" which means "I am", but not in the same sense as YHWH. It could just as easily be translated in meaning (as Jehovah's Witnesses do) to "I have been". In either sense, he isn't saying that he is YHWH, merely saying that he is eternal. Which isn't counter to saying that he is a entirely separate god. In all of this, I do realize very well that Jesus talks of the prophets and patriarchs of Judaism when speaking to his crowd. .. but doesn't this make sense if he is preaching to the Jews? He never claims to be YHWH, nor does he ever explicitly state that he is the Messiah claimed in a Tanakh verse (where the verse is actually describing the future Messiah). He always just uses terms like "It is written" and "[Moses] wrote about me". .. very vague on something that doesn't need to be (as a test of Faith, or whatever people claim as reasons for the Bible to be vague) For these reasons, I have come to the conclusion that Jesus =/= YHWH from a Christian perspective. .. He is God, and a Trinity. .. he is God the Son, and is one with God the Father, and exists as God the Holy Spirit. .. but none of these (including God the Father) are YHWH. I would like to thank my opponent for a great debate, and I was very happy to see his comments on the Jewish view of Christ and God. . and I really can't directly refute what he is saying. .. I just come to a very different conclusion from him. .. and I'm interested in his rebuttal to the argument from the Christian side. .. . Thank you