Suicide because of bullying is more unacceptable than bullying itself.

Rebuttals: Of course bullies can push an idea but that's all it is. An idea. There's a huge difference between 'an idea' and actually going through with it. You said "BULLYING just enhances the idea of death and escape". By saying that, you are just proving what society is doing. Focusing so little on suicide that it almost seems positive. Escape is what everyone wants; to have no bounds and to be free. Society is saying 'if you kill yourself, you'll be free'. That is why suicide is more unacceptable than bullying. People make it seem like a positive thing when it's actually alotworse than bullying. "Are we blaming the victims for committing suicide? Of course not!" Why not? Why do we blame people for using drugs when they are in depression but not blame people who suicide because of depression? People who take drugs were also 'pushed' to do it. They don't do it for no reason either. Why do we blame murderers for killing people? Studies have shown (from previous notorious murderers) that most murders kill people because they had an abusive childhood and grew up with pain. If we don't blame people who suicide fortaking their own lives, we shouldn't blame a murderer for taking another's lives either, right? I mean, both outcomes are the same: death. Both reasons are also the same: pain, misery, etc. The only difference between the two is a the choice of life. Victims of a murderer do not have a choice but people who suicide do. That is why suicide should take priority. The show people that thereisa choice. "YOU MENTIONED ABOUT A REWARD they'll get from it? PLEASE SPECIFY." I have. The reward they get is: people noticing them, celebrities talking about them, people calling them pretty or saying they wish they were their friend and the opportunity to make the bullies feel bad. (your paragraph 4 - 6) According to UNICEF,millionsof children can't evenattendschool. Of course many people report incidents of bullying but hardly anyone reports incidents of suicide. That's because people arestrongerthan that and don't let the bullies get to them. Adults understand the fairness of life better than children, which is why the amounts of suicide is much less. If we were to focus on stopping SUICIDE, the amounts will become lesser still. Adults would want to set a better example to their children and will tell them that suicide is not OK. The problem is, WE ARE NOT DOING THAT! We all are focusing on how bullying is not OK but not a lot of people are listening. We have to send a different message out, one that will truly have an impact on people. "Suicide is not OK. Here are the reasons why..." "...even though it's very hard to change ..." If it's [bullying] hard to change, shouldn't we try to change something that is easierto change? Something that will make more of a difference? People are trying in vain to get the bullying message out with a progress that is much too slow. the 'REALITY' is suicide andthatis what we should focus on. Yes, there will be an improvement if we focus on bullying but it is happening much too slowly. Bullyissomething that will never be resolved and itiseverywhere which iswhywe shouldn't focus so much on it. "...my opponent was not able to STICK to the topic and to the argument..." I'm sorry but I disagree with this. Here is where 'ideas' and 'action' comes back into play. For me to make the claim "Suicide because of bullying is more unacceptable than bullying itself." I must come up with a possible solution for it. "if society made Suicide more unacceptable, how? By showing how severe the effects of suicide is? ...Doesn't that show how WORSE BULLYING is?" The effects of suicide isencouragementof suicide. If one person did it, wouldn't that encourage others to do the same? Wouldn't they think "Why can they do it but I cannot?" It also has an impact on family but I will get on with that later. "...if you are sick and I feel sorry that you are sick, does that mean your sickness is a positive thing..." I was making the comparison of sickness and symptoms to bullying, not suicide. Your comparisons are illogical and not well used because I have already said that by 'feeling sorry for' means having celebrities talk about you, have people call you beautiful, etc. Society in general is focusing so little on suicide that people don't understand the seriousness of it. "You can't have the symptoms to be the cause of the disease." That is exactly what I'm arguing. Bullying is NOT the cause of suicide. "...you misunderstood my analogy..." Yes, I believe I did misunderstand. No one studies if they don't want good grades. "What is that thing that pushes them to do suicide, what is that thing that gave them the idea of committing suicide? Isn't it bullying?" No it is not bullying. It's what they think, what goes on in their heads. They think their misery is the most important thing in the world and that they deserve happiness (which I believe they do but my point is suicide-because-you-don't-have-happiness is unacceptable). Also, you shot yourself in the foot with "what is that thing that gave them the idea of committing suicide?" because your first sentence was "Bullies don't plant the thought..." I'm sorry but I do not understand your use of the word 'effect' when you say '...but suicide because of bullying is an effect" (By drugs, I meant the illegal ones, not medications) (Your paragraph 20:I am not saying that we don't have a choice...) My answer to that is we will always have a choice. And not only a choice but a wide range of choices. It's not "fight or die". The world is not in black and white. We could run, fight, seek help, revenge; the choices can go on and on and if something doesn't go planned, come up with a plan yourself. Isn't that what we do in debating? If we weren't expecting the opponent to say something, wouldn’t we come up with a plan (on the spot) to rebut them? (Your very next paragraph) How am I not sticking to the topic? I am saying: both victims of suicide and drugs abusers do those things for the same reason but people make a bigger deal about the drug abuser. Life will always be unfair no matter what situation and with people who suicide not understanding that is UNACCEPTABLE. (My rebuttal to the next few paragraphs) You cannot plant a thought in another's head. People talk about bullying (seminars) because that's what society is telling them to do (also paying them to do). If they can persuade people to stop bullying, they must be able to stop suicides. My answer to your question was to tell you (or anyone else reading this) that I am a strong person and if I chose otherwise, it would make me weak. Point: Suicide is unacceptable. Even more so than bullying because bullying tends to affect one person in general. Suicide, however, affects many more. (I've already talked about encouraging others) It affects family members and friends. Of course, those people will probably blame it on the bully but {off topic} that's the problem with us. We tend to blame things on people too much. We fill our lives with so much hate that we can't see the fault on the other side. Not many people think 'she should have been stronger than this' or 'she should have fought' or 'it's partially her fault as well' {back on topic}. To not blame the person you loved is being in denial. Close people who suicide makes them feel depression, anger, hate and denial. Those feelings will haunt themforeverno matter what age they are. Bullying will make people feel disappointed and cause hate in the general public but the feelings suicide can cause is much worse than that. If one of my friends killed herself because of bullies, (beside my hate for the bullies) I would honestly feel disappointed that she wasn't strong enough. I would also feel sadness/emptiness/depression for the rest of my life. And I only got these ideas from movies/books that describelosinga family member (not to bullying).