An atheist can also be an agnostic

You almost had it there at the beginning, but then went off the rails again. Belief, specifically in gods is theism, yes. I'm not disputing that. Disbelief OR lack of belief in gods is atheism. So far, so good. But here's where you went off track: "agnostic is non belief, acceptance i don't know, while theism and atheism is for me to not accept that i don't know." You're confusing belief with knowledge and using the terms interchangeably. The gnostic/agnostic position is not one of belief or lack of belief. It is a position of knowledge or lack of knowledge. It is the theist/atheist position that deals with belief. Contrary to your claim that there are only three positions one can take on any given claim-- belief that the claim is true, belief that the claim is false, or acknowledgement that one doesn't know-- there are at least four positions one can take. You will notice that the first two stances you put forth deal with BELIEF, while the third deals with KNOWLEDGE. Belief and knowledge are two very different concepts. The words and concepts are not interchangeable. Here are the four (minimum) stances that one can take on any given claim of a god's existence: --One can BELIEVE that the claim is true and also claim to KNOW that it is true (gnostic theist) --One can BELIEVE that the claim is true while also admitting that they do not or cannot KNOW for sure that it is true (agnostic theist) --One can NOT BELIEVE that the claim is true and also claim to KNOW that it is not true (gnostic atheist) --One can NOT BELIEVE that the claim is true while also admitting that they do not or cannot KNOW for sure that it is not true (agnostic atheist) Once again, not accepting that a claim is true does not necessarily mean that one believes it is false. They just haven't been convinced of its truth, so they are withholding belief. In discussions of gods and religion, people often let their emotions cloud their reason, so I will use an analogy from the natural world. It is clear that biologists haven't discovered every species of plant and animal on the planet. Every year, 15,000-18,000 new species are discovered. [1] Most of the newly discovered animal species are insects, but occasionally even large animals are discovered by biologists. A previously unknown species of chimpanzee, the Bonobo, was only identified around 80 years ago. Knowing that, it is not at all unlikely that there are large animal species on Earth that modern biologists have no knowledge of. Many millions of people around the world believe that Sasquatch/Bigfoot/Yeti is one (or more) of those species. I fully accept the possibility that these animals may exist, yet I do not believe the claims because no definitive evidence has ever been presented. Using the terms of this discussion, regarding claims that these animals exist, I am an agnostic atheist (a-yetiist?). While I do not hold the positive belief that these animals exist, I also don't BELIEVE that they don't exist or claim to KNOW that they don't exist. I have not been convinced of their existence so I do not and cannot believe that they exist. The same holds true for god claims. Algebra isn't really one of my strong suits so you will have to explain the equation "a=all=1" in different terms for me to be able to comment on it. And as for your last statement-- "an agnostic, accepting he dosnt know, does not not accept he dosnt know, therfore dosnt have a belief," you will also have to clarify that as it appears to be self contradictory. Does the agnostic accept he doesn't know, or not accept he doesn't know? [1] http://www.atlasobscura.com...