Batman is a better superhero than Iron Man

"I’m assuming we are acting under the same definition of murder, which is purposely killing of another human being. Following this definition, Iron Man is a mass murderer, having purposely killed numerous people in Iron Man 1, 2, and the Avengers. I realize what my opponent is trying to do here, because we saved someone’s life it is acceptable to kill someone. Well, it isn’t. It is still murder. Batman, unlike Iron Man, saves people’s lives and DOESN’T MURDER ANYONE IN THE PROCESS."My opponent seems to be operating under black and white morality. Under his definition we should lock up all our armed forces and police force. That's absurd. Secondly Iron Man doesn't kill people for sport. He only killed terrorist armed with high tech weaponry and tries to save the man who tried to kill him twice. In the second one, he doesn't kill anyone at all and in the Avengers he kills aliens that are invading earth. Think about all the people that have died because Batman refused to kill one man? Thousands! Am I saying their lives are worth more than the villains? Yes. I value the lives of citizens over the lives of terrorist. But my opponent line of reasoning is "It doesn't matter how many people he kills, just as long as he doesn't die"How about all the people in the mansion, you know, the hundreds of people he saved from execution?I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you mean in the second film when he jumps out a window to save his girlfriend, leaving the joker and his armed thugs with a room full of people? Speaking of that scene how the hell does Joker escape that? Batman is at the bottom floor and Joker is at the top. Does he fly away out a window? Batman literally has his enemy trapped yet still he allows him to escape. Incompetent..."Considering how my opponent just refuses to accept the fact that Iron Man is a murderer, therefore isn’t it “acceptable” that he violated people’s rights to save people? Following my opponent’s logic, it is. Also, Batman destroyed the machine immediately after." Right. Notice how Iron Man only violates the "rights" of murderers while Batman violates the right of EVERYONE IN THE CITY. Had my opponent watched the movie carefully, he would notice that at the beginning two of Joker’s henchmen on the roof of the bank destroyed the bank’s secret alarm out to the police. As the henchman says: “That’s weird, it was trying to call a private number, and not the police.” That private number is Batman. Secondly, in The Dark Knight Rises Batman engages in daytime fighting had my opponent watched the movie.I did watch the movie I saw him get stabbed and saved by a deus ex machina. Heroic. Secondly, my opponent specifically requested we use the mainstream continuity and recent film franchises as our sources. The “mainstream continuity” isn’t just limited to Nolan’s batverse. Finally, Ra’s death isn’t what drives the plot at all in the third movie. Yes but I'm specifically referring to Nolan's batverse in which Ra's is not immortal. So Batman killed him. And because he did that Ra's' Daughter comes for revenge in the third film It’s more effective, because Iron Man uses guns. Batman does’t as guns were what caused his parent’s death and he doesn’t believe in killing. Iron Man has no issue eliminating threats. Batman believes in taking them alive, taking them to the police and justice and possibly rehabilitation in Arkham Asylum. Iron Man is more effective because he has no problem murdering people. Batman gets it done, saves thousands of lives, and doesn’t kill anyone in the process.Again, Iron Man does not murder people. He kills terrorist armed with high tech weaponry. These people didn't have anyone to answer to. They were the authority. And they were armed with missiles and tanks. The world is better off without them. And again how many people have died due to Batman retarded moral stance? He's not even effective either! Twice in the series all the prisoners escaped!! Twice! The first time, everyone was high on fear gas, the second time, they all had guns and every police officer was locked underground. Armed murderers and rapist roaming the streets for 5 months! Make no mistake thousands of people have died under Batman's so called "watch"Batman cares far more for his city. His attention is completely focused on making his home a better place, that is just as heroic as Iron Man caring little amounts for a vast place. Lol what? What makes you think Iron Ma cares so little? Watch the attached video http://www.youtube.com... . That's a random village that had nothing to do with him. If he didn't care he wouldn't have flown his untested suit into a battle zone. And secondly are you saying that caring a lot about a small place is more heroic than caring about the welfare of the entire planet? Is that seriously your logic?Forbes doesn’t randomly compile numbers, they actually do math to figure out how much these people are worth. For example, Smaug from the Hobbit is considered one of the richest fictional characters ever. They calculated his worth using his length, the number of scales on an average dragon’s belly, the size of the cave, how much of the room Smaug took up, how much air took up, and then the final percentage is how much the gold and silver took up. Using the value of gold and silver at the time, they came to his net worth being around 8.6 billion dollars.It's still a moot point because a) The article was written before the release of the first Iron Man filmb) I've already shown proof that Iron Man has more moneyc) THE DARK KNIGHT RISES EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT BRUCE WAYNE IS FLAT BROKE AND SO IS WAYNE INTERPRISES. Because he has “super strength, an advanced AI, machine guns, rockets, and lasers”. In the Iron Man movies, inside his helmet the screen is usually showing a targeting cross hair. He’s effective because he kills. Whiplash, killed. Obadiah, killed. WOW. Why would you lie like that? Tony tries to pull Obadiah up but Obadiah refuses to be saved. And Vanko blew himselft up. Don't lie to the people dude. I never said he doesn’t care about the rest of the world, but his focus is Gotham. He focuses on Gotham far more than Iron Man on the world.How are you coming up with this? Vote ConEven my opponent admits Iron Man is more effective.