Rom 10:9-10 teaches Lordship salvation

Swordmaster YOU SAID "Swordmaster response: Clearly 1 Cor. 15:1-5, states the gospel of Christ is His death, burial and resurrection, and I ask you "what is Obeying the gospel?" Your answer is incorrect you said, "Jews are being disobedient by choosing not to obey the gospel by believing it" MY RESPONSE: The gospel is not something which we obey in the same way we do other commands. I know your interpretation baptism is obeying the gospel let me clarify mine a little bit. Baptism is a seperate command I believe it says in many places obey the gospel Romans 10:16 and in many places be baptised if they truly are the same command why not use thm interchangebly??? The gospel is something I believe we don't obey physically as much otherwise that would mean going through the same thing Christ went through 1 Corinthians 15:1-5. The gospel is what Christ did for us to save us being obedient to it means believing it not merely mental obedience. An obedience of the heart which means trust love for Christ and your right it is an action just not a physical one. Although it naturally leads to physical action baptism included but why stop there if you Obey the gospel from the heart youll want to obey all Christs commands not just baptism. YOU SAID "Swordmaster response: You do understand that believing is what a believer does. In Ro. 10:9-10,"that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Notice the word believes, is a verb, denotes action, if you believe there must be action or you are not a believer. Confess with your mouth, (action) the Lord (action) therefore, believing in your heart, (Action) What action? The bible plainly teaches that we must obey the gospel? I have shown 3 verses that teach that the gospel is something that must be obeyed. Rom 10:16, 2 Thess. 1:8-9, and 1Pet 4:17, Andy want you us to think that all you have to do is believe "Mentally". what Andy is saying, "if you have a child, and you tell him to go to the store and buy some bread, all that child has to do is say daddy, I accept your command by believing it, and nothing else is expected. Andy, Your Heavenly father told you to obey the gospel, So the bible teaches us how to obey it, I showed plainly in my last post that Romans 6 teaches us how? When one Obeys the gospel by being baptized into Christ, they are believing and accepting Jesus as Lord, and not before. Please notice his lack of response and teaching. He says what he believes, but not one time has he harmonized any passage. Nor does he understand that obeying and believing requires action" MY RESPONSE You gave your interpretation and I gave mine above to rebut yours. YOU SAID "Swordmaster response: Andy the bible never contradicts itself, When one writer is talking about a subject , all other writers must agree on that subject. You had agreed to this in my first argument. Swordmaster response: I could not find what you wrote, I was wondering what was going on." MY RESPONSE I never said anything about the bible contradicting itself. I agreed to a debate on the meaning of Romans 10:9-10 so far all you've done is bring up a bunch of verses that allegedly support your belief on baptism. And most of them you have'nt even tried to show how they relate to Romans 10:9-10 not that they contradict just don't prove your point. YOU SAID "Swordmaster response: Repentance is of major importance, I agree I set out to show Lord's ship salvation, and was using Baptism as an example of obedience. The work of repentance is required before one is saved, Paul is going deeper here through his teachings on death. Notice he said in 3-4, that they died, not by a mental belief as Andy would pervert this into saying. But the bible says when they died , that was when they were baptized." MY RESPONSE Not by Mental belief by belief of the heart baptism is a picture of the work done on the inside. Just getting baptised won't change ones heart if that were the case all we have to do is get everyone in the world baptised. It won't change the heart. In fact why would anyone even follow Christ's command to get baptised unless they had a change of heart. Your perverting it Paul says in multiple places works don't save so no man can boast like you. YOU SAID "Swordmaster response: Andy Death means separation, Ja. 2:26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. " What you have done is take this verse out of context and that means your conclusion is a pretext." You completely ignored the above verses, Gal 1:8-9 applies to you also, stop perverting the gospel of Christ." MY RESPONSE Ok lets take your meaning seperation to seperate ourselves from sin means not to sin anymore but this isn't just magical it requires a change of heart. Unsaved sin is like our god its our focus its what we serve. When Christ becomes our god we focus on him and serve him but its not just our acts. Which save us it acts come from our inside not our outside this is why no physical act itself can save us we may do a good thing. Even as an unbeliever but its normally for selfish reasons and no because we love Christ. So first we must get the Christ in us to get sin out then we can be truly seperated from sin. YOU SAID "Swordmaster response: I have baptized cripples and diseased people before. And the same Lord commands them as he commanded us." MY RESPONSE Iam sure you have because you would tell them theyll go to hell if they don't. Let me give you a scenario what if a person believes with his heart and confesses with his mouth that Jesus is lord and their on there way to get baptized and they get killed would they seriously go to hell just because they didn't have the chance I guess the theif on the cross was to late. YOU SAID "Swordmaster's response: I talked to a Muslim yesterday that said that the bible is untrustworthy because it has things added into it. Be careful he will convert you, I trust the whole bible and will cut none of it out. Why don't you get a razor and cut it out of your bible? You don't respect what it says anyway. Shame on you." MY RESPONSE I am not saying the bibles untrustworthy. Shame on you for not studying this matter more 2 Timothy 2:15 all I am saying is that we don't have the original text of the Bible. We have many coppies of manuscripts and we use text criticism to try to find out by comparing them which one the original was probably most like. And that is one of the passages were pretty sure was added later there aren't many things like this but that is a significant one. YOU SAID "Swordmaster Response: I want you to Notice Paul did not say, "how" Andy added it. I showed very well what calling on the name of the Lord is and you have disproved none of it. So I will not waste my time re-arguing the matter." MY RESPONSE I never said paul did use the word how i added it for emphases. 1.If we do not obeyed is that considered belief by God? Depends on what you mean by obeyed. 2.Define believing Trust an action of the heart 3.In Acts 2:38 why were they baptized? A display of what happened inside. MY QUESTION FOR YOU 1. Why would anyone obey jesus command to be baptized if he wasn't already saved. 2. Romans 8:9 teaches if we have the spirit were saved. In Acts 10:44-48 when are they saved???