Tupac is the greatest rapper of all time

Tupac was certainly not the greatest rapper ever since when you look at the basic elements of emceeing and of rapTechnical lyrical abilityFlowStorytellingDeliverySocially Conscious/contentQuotables/punchlinesAbility to Battle/battle barsOriginalityDiscographyHe is not top tier in any of them with the exception of socially conscious/content (even though his content was so hypocritical and often contradicted himself) , and delivery (which he is not the best at). If you look at technical lyrical ability pac was extremely simple and below average. Sure there are quote a few verses where he steps it up with some internals, multis, assonance, and etc... However, overall from an objective point of view he was below avergae and quite weak in this aspect. Rap metrics is a site which measures rhyme desnities of rappers body of work and by using state of the art analysis software, can objectively quantify rappers performance in some other rap categories like speed, vocab variety, word length, etc. the same way we come up with statistics for sports. When talking about how tupac stacks up to other big rappers they had this to say:"How does he stack up against the other heavy-hitters (Jay, Nas and Big) statistically?First and foremost, he doesn"t rhyme as well. This is a simple fact. Not that Big/Jay/Nas are extremely similar rhyming-wise with Tupac a few steps below:https://rapmetrics.files.wordpress.com...Tupac, at a rhyme density score of 0.235 is a notch below BIG, Jay and Nas who scored at 0.29, 0.30 and 0.30 respectively. It"s apparent that:1) The score of 0.30 (which is pretty close to the overall average of 0.28 in our database) is a pretty good baseline necessary where we can argue that technical proficiency is met. Anything over or under by a significant amount should be carefully looked at contextually. We can start saying Good or Bad based on the 0.28-0.30 score.2) Tupac just isn"t that good, technically speaking. He"s a notch below the Big 3 objectively speaking.He had great energy on his tracks but to me his linear raps and weak rhyming make it too hard for me to ever really get into his work. Don"t shoot the messenger!" https://rapmetrics.wordpress.com...His rhmes were just generally weak and quite simple. People like Rakim, Kool G rap, Black Thoguht, Canibus, Eminem, Pharaohe Monch, Nas, Big Pun, Common, Mos Def, and so many more people are objectively more techncially proficient. I would love to see you challenge this simple fact and argue that pac is more tewhcncial than any of the rappers listed, and etc... When it comes to flow it gets no better. Computer scientist Martin Connor over at Encyclopedia of Flow analyzed tupacs flow on “Changes”. He openly says that he loves tupac and that changes is possibly one of the greatest songs OAT. However when it came to flow even die hard tupac fan admitted that tupac’s flow is not the best or super great by any measure: There doesn’t seem to be any plan to the pace of his rhymes. There is no acceleration or deceleration of phrases (shorter or longer sentences, or more or less of them), any discernable switch between a high number of rhymes and a low number of rhymes. There isn’t even any variation on the couplet structure, which would be somewhat laborious without 2pac’s delivery and strong message. When you combine that uniformity of sentence structure with the predictable rhythme structure of being extremely couplet-heavy, you better understand what I’m trying to describe here – his unfinished, unpolished style. Furthermore, he moves between different modes of rhyming without any sort of transition, and there doesn’t seem to be any overarching, guiding principle to how he’ll move from one rhyme to the next. That is, the pacing of his rhymes – how many he drops, and how intense they are in terms of length and placement – is all over the place, and either not very complex or too complex. For example, he starts off with a couplet and a single-syllable end rhyme So tupacs flow was mediocre at times and average at best. Nothing special. Tupacs flow is also extremely repetative and outside maybe his first album its nearly always the same with little variation. Connor thinks that it is compensated with his delivery and message which to me are his only good strong points. Connor even says:“But as I said before, I don’t think this reflects negatively on 2pac. This is because that style fits his aggressive message and delivery very well” http://www.rapanalysis.com...When it comes to flow tupac was far from the best, and people such as Pharaohe Monch, AZ, Biggie, Kool G rap, Eminem, Big Pun, Jay Z, method man, and etc... are much more refined and polished flows. Their flows are signifciantly more on point and have alot of range and variation. Storytelling wise pac was a little better but I still can name probably 20+ artsit that are better than him in storytelling. His most popular storytelling song brendas got a baby has a good message and is a classic for sure however the lyrics are so simple, the flow is repetative, sonically it is boring tbh, and there is no real advanced storytelling skills or vivid imagery shown. A good example of a skilled storyteller is lupe fiasco when he says: Floatin' down by his feet was the letter from his sisterSecond grade handwriting simply read “I miss ya”Suit jacket pocket held his baby daughter’s picture Instead of just saying his younger sister put a letter in the casket near his feet he uses exqusite word choice and imagery by giving us backround in a unique way instead of simply stating blunt facts/thigns in the story like pac. His stories may have touched people, however if he was telling a story about going to the storie or something it would be unattractive. The content of his stories is what made his storytelling attractive, not neccesarily the storytelling skills themsleves. I like rappers who can have both intriguing stories and great storytelling skills and imagery. People love to say “pac was straight to the point”, but soemtimes it is more dull that way. So basically pac was again below average and at best decenet storyteller who relied a little to much on the content of his stories rather than focusing on the execution of the stories. Comapre his storytelling to:Kool G rap on Thug Love Story(the GOAT storytelling song)Nas on rewind, Undying Love, and I Gave you powerBiggie on Niggas Bleed, I got a story to tell, adn WarningEminem on Stan, As the world turns, murder she wroteCanibus on No Return, I honour U, and tariqCommon on I used to Love her, Testify, and Book of LifeImmortal technique on Dancing with the devil and You never know and you will see how much of a simple storyteller he was. All of these storytelling songs contain more vivid imagery, intricate and intriguing plots, and more cinematic lyrics. When it came yo quotables and punchlines I think its generally accepted that pac was not a punchline rapper and never aspired to be a punchline rapper. he didnt have any of the advanced wordpaly, witty/clever punchlines, and incredible double/triple entendres as Jay Z, Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, Big L, Fabolous, MF DOOM, Cassidy, Canibus, and Common. i would love for you to challenge me on that becuase any paac punchline you can name I can name a minimum of 10 punchlines off the top of my head from any of the artist I just listed that is far superior in depth, complexity, , and etc... When it comes to the abiltiy to battle/diss, I consider any face to face battle experience, diss records, and freestyle abilities as part of this category. I happen to hold the unpopular opinion that pac's diss records (specifically his most hailed diss record Hit em up) were quite weak and relied on their contaggious hooks and production. Pac had weak shots, no depth, and didn't speak true facts. I dont have enough space to lay it all out however if you go to this thread and press control+F and search Productofrakim17 and go to the 2nd thing that mentions that term you will see my full blown evidence based resposne to why hit em up was one of the weakest diss records of all time, and would be taken serious without his screaming delviery, the hook, and the production:http://genius.com...Diss records such as: Ether, No Vaseline, 2nd Round KO, Takeover, the bitch in yoo, The ripper is back, and so many more I cna name are much better lyrically, in devestating shots, straught facts, flow, delviery, and etc... In terms of originality he didnt bring anything new. the few things that he did which many considered unique stylistically was me and my Girlfriend (extended emtaphor for a gun) and Dear Mama (consdiered one of the frist rap songs dedicated to mothers starting a trend of it ). Other than that theres nothing which is ironic since MAMG was a concept taken from nas's IWW from I Gave you power and Commons IUTLH. And Dear mama was originally made by rapper kill kill in an udnerground west coast mixtape (that kill kill gave to tupac) a year before under the name Moma Dear:We can say with a certain amount of certiany given the circumstances that pac got the idea from this song. So pac was not very original, and other rappers such as Kool G rap, Rakim, Eminem, Redman, DMX, and etc.. were much more original and unique when they came out. When it comes to dsicography his first 2 albums are considered quite poor with to mcu filler. AEOM had wayy to many songs, and many skippable and cringey songs, AEOM was alright, and T7DT was ok but a step down tbh. GFK, the roots, kool g rap, scarface, Common, DOOM, and etc... have more classics and much more consistent discog. When you look at pac as a whole he was mediocre avergae to at best decent in nearly everything and was saved by his message and delivery. Thats it. Not wellrounded. not goat