If a creator and an opposition force (example: Satan) existed then we should not follow the bible.

For the purpose of bringing this debate out of the abstract, I'm going to call the Creator God and the anti-creator Evil. I'm going to define several terms: === Creator: All powerful holy Creator of the world, who is the ultimate and perfect embodiment of love, and has such love for mankind. The Creator wants the absolute best for mankind. === Anti-Creator: The being(s) that currently work against the will of the Creator - for the purpose of this debate, Satan and fallen angels fall under the title Anti-Creator. The Anti-Creator(s) want to harm === It: I'd like to specify this as the moral code expounded in the Bible. To begin, my opponent makes several critical assumptions: False Assumption 1: "the creator has created only one religion" I reject this premise severely, as it takes a deliberately myopic view of the Creator. In an essay that I've partially authored called "Perennialism" I explain: Perennialism This term stems analogically from the "perennial flower". This flower blooms from the same root every year. In this fashion, we get the analogy for perennialism: the belief that the one God (the Divine source of all Truth) has "sprung forth" his revelations to the world at different times in different ways through the major religions of the world. In other words, it is the belief that the God of Judaism is the God of Islam and the God of Islam is the God of Christianity. First off, the religions that fall under this category are the major religions of the world. Hinduism Buddhism Judaism Christianity Islam Primal Religions (Native American beliefs) The Norse religions, paganism, Greek Mythology, Scientology, and all sects of these religions are seen by this view as man-made due to their short lifespan and hedonistic belief system contrary to a godly living, or for the sects, man-made extensions of the aforementioned religions. Now it would seem that each of these religions are contradictory, and yes on the surface they do seem to be quite different and contradictory. But we first must distinguish that there is an exoteric way of looking at religion and an esoteric way. Exoteric is the manner of "looking at" the surface, or doctrinal and methodic principles of these religions. And looking at these exoteric differences, we see many differences in method and doctrine, such as differing views of God, differing views of the world, differing views of the afterlife. However, the esoteric approach is the manner of "looking along" the religions to see their beneath-the-surface meaning. In doing this, we see that each of these religions has a harmonious balance of four major points that connect these religions together. Truth, Virtue, Beauty, and Prayer. In these six major religions we see an enormous importance stressed on Truth, Virtue, Beauty, and Prayer. And before I conclude my explanation there is another point to address. The idea of Christ. John 14:6 says "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. " Now this would seem to cancel out all other religions but look deeper. We see that Christ is the "way, the truth and the life" through which we get to God. In parallel, we see this in all the other religions. The idea of the "Son" or "the way the truth and the life" is exhibited in each religion. In Christianity: Christ, in Islam: The Koran, In Judaism: The Torah, or the Law, in Hinduism: the Krishna, and in Buddhism: Nirvana. "Christ" can vary from literal meaning, depending on the manner in which He has chosen to reveal himself. He can still be "the way" without them literally knowing that it is Christ that is saving them - for example, if a native American worshipping "the Great Spirit" would in actuality be worshipping "Christ" without knowing it - he never gave it a name other than "The Great Spirit". But "a rose by any other name is just as sweet". Parallely, Christ - though under a different names - provides the same grace to all religions. I only argue this because I know that my opponent will immediately argue the "Christ" point, and I wanted to pre-refute it. ===++ On to his argument about the Anti-Creator making the Bible. My syllogism is thus: Premise 1) The Creator wants the best for mankind. Proof: Definition. This is inherent to the idea of the Creator. Premise 2) The Anti-Creator wants bad for mankind. Proof: See above: Its inherent to the idea of the Anti-Creator. Premise 3) The main and critical messages the Bible preaches are positive and pacifistic. Proof: My main justification is thus Matthew 22:36-40. 36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law? " 37 Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. ' 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself. ' 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. " Explanation: Because "All the Law and Prophets hang on these two commandments" all actions must be judged in context of these 5 verses and fulfill their criteria of loving God and loving each other to be considered "Justified" by the Bible. Since promoting love is a good idea, I stand in negation of the topic. Note: Even if you reject the idea of a creator, this does not negate the idea of "love" being positive. Note 2: More evidence for positive mentality is evidenced at the end. To be succinct, I move to my conclusion. Conclusion: The mentality promoted by the Bible is one contrary to the purpose of the Anti-Creator, but is in line with the Creator's purpose. As famously stated "A house divided cannot stand. " If the Bible promotes positive action, then it is impossible for an evil being to have created it. ========== Other occurrences of positive moral codes taught by the Bible include: Romans 12:14-21 14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited. 17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. 20 On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head. " 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. So. .. repay evil with good, and good with good. Be humble, kind and generous. .. Matthew 5:3-11 # Blessed are the meek: for they shall posses the land. # Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted. # Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill. # Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. # Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. # Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. # Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Be humble, mourn when necessary, powerfully seek justice, be merciful, be clean of heart, make peace, and serve justice even when it harms you. I'd like to conclude this debate with a request to not judge it by your personal feelings, but by the undeniable logic I've presented. In truth, irregardless of the truth of the Bible, or whoever it was created by, the Bible preaches a message of peace and love - all other things are not to be followed (Matthew 22:36-40). The peace and love of the Bible make its moral code worth following