Your satan is a myth

Yes, but nearly every church, synagogue, and mosque does push the myth based upon their understanding of Tanak. While pro may be aware of this, again, we would not be having this discussion without the prevalence of myth. Pro can cite as many reference sources he likes, it doesn't change, the fact is without the myth we would never have heard of satan. Satan isn't the only Hebrew word for adversary, it's just the only one known to the religious many. The only way that satan SHOULD have any significance in your life is if you were born Hebrew. I'm unaware of giving pro any other definition for myth and am pretty confident my hard copy seventh edition Webster's collegiate dictionary sufficient and most applicable for any debate. Pro and I will have to disagree about Tanak being fiction. Far to much of the people and places are proven history for this to be true. Best you can truthfully say is that it may be a collection of historical fiction and poetry. Neither can say for certain. Ancient Yisra'el became the number one socio-economic, military, religious power on earth. For me, it is flat amazing that the ancient writings of this people, whom were utterly destroyed and scattered, did ultimately have their words spread to the whole world, by the hand of the beast no less. The same Word that prophesied their own demise by a deadly head wound also promised the wound would be healed. Apostate, pagan Israel has been restored by the hands of the money power elite but is counterfeit of true Yisra'el. Pro believes ALL of what constitutes the bible to be fiction and so by this admission proves he has no satan. It is a fact the Yisra'elites battled the infusion of paganism from the very beginning of their exodus, and dualistic concepts came back with the Hebrews from Chaldea, at the time a Persian province. Zoroastrianism being the most popular belief in the empire. These people fought several brutal civil wars for control of the priest hood. They expelled one would be conqueror in Antiocous IV only to have Rome enter at the behest of the winning side. This group of paganized "rabbis" who canonized scripture, are the forefathers of today's rabbis, and on it goes. This is the central theme of the controversy in scripture. I said, "your satan is a myth, show me your satan in Tanak." . Pro accepted the challenge but seemed to agree, So I clarified, "I am arguing against a cosmic boogyman. Does your satan whisper in your ear and tell you to do things? Is your satan responsible for evil? Do you believe angels fell from heaven and are now interfering in your life? This is the satan I am against." Pro believes the whole of the text to be fiction and doesn't have a satan to show me At this point, we have exhausted any argument on satan and reverted to debating the definition of myth. Since we find ourselves here, I don't see any reason to restrict this discussion any longer. If you like, you may bring any reference in the bible to show satan, However, I'm more curious to know your understanding of the beast. I have been told by many a pagan that "the king of all prideful men", leviathan in Job, is satan. At this time, in the hope of education, I will insert leviathan into this conversation. Iyob/ Job 41:30, 31 HS "His undersides are like sharp potsherds. He sprawls on the mud like a threshing- sledge. He makes the deep boil like a pot, He makes the sea like a pot of ointment." 41:30 Underside: H8478 tahat/ beneath,flat, in, instead,place, under, underneath, underneath in the sense of being in place of something else . Sharp: H2303 chaddude / sharp, pointed, sharpened. Potsherds: H2789 cheres / earthenware, clay pottery, shard, potsherd, earthen vessel. He sprawls: H7502 rafad /to spread, spread out or support, comfort Mud: H2916 tiyt / mud or clay; figuratively, calamity:--clay, dirt, mire. Threshing sledge H2742 charuwtz / sharp pointed things. 41:31 Deep: H4688 metsoola / deep sea, deep place (water or mud) Boil H7570 rathach / make boil Pot: H5518 ciyer / pot, thorn, brier, fishhook The sea: H3220 yam / sea, mighty river, Great Basin in temple court, seaside, westward He makes: H7760 soom / put, place, set, appoint, make Pot of ointment: H4841 merkakah / seasoning, spice, pot of ointment We see here the whole belly of the beast made up of sharp little potsherds that are moving (stirring) and spreading the dirt or clay, making it boil like a pot of goo. I have found that Job and Isaiah spoke about this same beast, and Isaiah does an excellent job explaining clay and potsherds. Iyob / Job41:32- 34 HS "He leaves a shining path behind him. One would think the deep to be grey-haired. No one on earth is like him - one made without fear. He sees all that is haughty. He is sovereign over all the sons of pride Let's look what Isaiah has to say about this beast, the potsherds and clay. Isaiah 27:1 HS " In the day YHWH with His severe sword, great and strong, punishes liwiathan the fleeing serpent, liwiathan that twisted serpent. And He slay the monster that is in the sea" In my studies, I have found the twisted serpent and the fiery serpent are one and the same. This chapter is prophesying of Yisra'el's restoration, the healing of the deadly wound, after the death of the beast. Isaiah 27:7 & 8 mentions leviathan again saying that leviathan shoots forward and those reading would contend with it. It's rough, unrighteous, spirit would cease in Father Yah's day of the east wind. It's clear from the rest of the chapter, all idols are done away with, this is future. Also notice the idols are a practice of leviathan. Let's look at the clay and potsherds next. Isaiah 45:9 HS "Woe to him who strives with his Maker! ( a potsherd with the potsherds of the earth). Does clay say to him who forms it, 'What are you making?' Or your handiwork say, 'He has no hands'?" The potsherds are men who disagree with their maker about his character, nature, Shem! Verses 7 & 8 point out, as Job does in 2:10, these men are like foolish women rejecting the truth their Creator does both good and evil. These are the men, and women, that make up the belly of the beast. The reason the whole world wonders about who and what the beast is, is because they can't see they're wrong, because the beast is them. If the king of all prideful men is satan then it is they and their fellows. The beast is stirring the clay. Now I'm sure pro is aware Father Yah is the one said in scripture to hook the joules of the beast and lead it where He wills it. Dani'el, Isaiah, and Job are all describing the same beast system. Dani'el says these people, the deceived and deceiver, are Father Yah's, they are for the purpose of stirring the clay (humanity). This is a scripture wide theme and is referenced throughout. He created us and knows our inclinations. He knew where this would all go. Water and mud flow the path of least resistance. This is a very applicable description of humanity. Scripture shows that it's the beast that loves the lie and so Father Yah feeds it more lies, leading it where He wills. Through this process He stirs loose His righteous. The enmity is between us and our Maker.