The UK should leave the EU for it's own benefit

Additional Thanks It was as well a pleasure to me to have this debate. Due to the nature of this site we neither have many debates based on European politics nor the debaters for it. So that was definitely a highlight for me. A absolutely agree that this was educational and inspiring. Personally I am a big fan of Britain, though I do not agree with many of their political decisions and think their law system is the weirdest thing ever, and this debate certainly gave me the opportunity (or excuse) to do research on something one would probably not spent time in detail on. Which is probably the whole reason for this debate. Most people in Britain and on the continent don’t have the time or motivation to dig deep enough into these problems which is why British society is probably not the best group to address directly for this complex matter as to whether or not they should leave. This being said as an unrelated thought, to spent a few of my generous 10,000 characters, not to be seen as part of this debate. Seriously, I love not caring about how much I write.Last Round Rebuttal 1. Financial Misunderstanding / EEA1.1 Sanctions1.2 EEA 1.3 Jobs2. [Other benefits] 2.1 Welfare2.2 Visa and Travel2.3 Strength of Economy/ Euro and Pound Final StatementFull Source List1. Financial Misunderstanding / EEAI am still quite sure that leaving the EU will be an effort for Britain not worth the time and money required. I consider the overall benefits for British business, outlined in Round 2, as important and that Britain would have a lot of work to make up for the service that the European Union provides by its nature. Some, but not all, would be also provided by the EEA, but this still relies on the assumption that Britain will be in the EEA. The decision about this is up to them and the risk is at least theoretically valid. The practical side of that is continued in this round’s 1.2. 1.1 SanctionsAs my opponent correctly pointed out are sanctions, especially those against Russia, controversial. Who is guilty of breaking what European and Human right is hard to determine, unfortunately not that much point of the debate (while still good to remain aware of). The more interesting question is how strongly the EU decisions can be influenced by a “mood”. By its democratic structure is the EU not more likely to be influenced by societal moods than Britain. Both have a parliament that has been democratically voted. In fact, a certain mood within Britain is more likely blocked by the EU parliament’s parties that are not British, making the EU an effective safety net from mood and public pressure related political decisions. At the end this lines up with the probability concept that the average answer of many is of higher quality than the average answer of few(er). 1.2 EEA As promised, the EEA problem. I do agree with my opponent that under many circumstances the EU will not deny Britain an EEA membership as for the sake of own profits and market stability. However do I disagree that they will under all circumstances.If less contribution, short term profit and poor opinion of the European Union (members) are the reason for leaving the EU, than Britain might experience the same behaviour on the part of the EU. It will be easier for the EU to put pressure on Britain, than the other way round. True is, that Britain is the sixed largest economy but there are already two European countries ahead of them and one close in terms of their GDP [8] and the UK’s part in the EU GDP of $17.35 trillion [9], is with $2.8 trillion [8] only 16%. Meaning that the EU countries have a) the ability to sanction Britain and survive longer and b) the more than 5 times larger economy to create pressure and enforce their will. It’s really optimistic to assume, that Britain can create chaos and moral instability in the EU and then expect them not to react defensive and sanction the Britain’s for their behaviour against them. At the end is it true, that nobody can live without the other*, but the EU can financially survive longer without Britain in the EEA, because they have the higher budget available.*that unintentionally came out as some sort of Harry Potter reference. 1.3 JobsWith a few summarising words I am repeating that we both agree, that Britain needs foreign workers and needs to be attractive for them for that reason. We don’t agree in how far the withdrawal from the EU will influence that attraction, because we don’t agree how far this will influence the visa-situation, ability to immigrate and emigrate conveniently and the bring goods into the country and out of it, for a private person. Therefore I forward the reader to continue this thought in 2.2. 2. [Other benefits] This lose collection is pretty much the miscellaneous collection of non-financial-related or new arguments. I apologize if this seems messy, but I did not know a better option than to put them all together, either. 2.1 WelfareAs actually demonstrated in the last round (1.2 – 1.3 Jobs), Britain will not be able to lower its investments into welfare by leaving the EU. Most of these problems are related to law regulations they installed themselves and have nothing to do with the EU regulations. If we assume that Britain will still need about the same amount of foreign workers (as we seem to agree on), than the welfare costs won’t change significantly. 2.2 Visa and TravelThis is a tricky one because we can’t exactly predict how the negotiations will turn out. But what can go into the country can also go out. And if Britain decides to leave the EU and its standards then the EU might choose to protect itself from British imports for political or security reasons. All these imports now come with additional effort for the EU countries meaning that they likely chose to charge companies and individuals for this effort. That Britain can make his imports easier doesn’t help if their exports getting more expensive and inconvenient for businesses and citizens. The tourism market for example might therefore lose out when people face higher restrictions and security obstacles. Again this will happen on both sides. But again will be the market who can deal with the loss of one target group better, the market for which the target group is economically smaller. With proportionally less citizens in the UK than in the remaining EU countries together [1], the target group Europe to Britain is bigger than the one Britain to Europe. 2.3 Strength of Economy/ Euro and Pound I don’t really think I have to spent time on this, because it’s an unsourced claim that the Pound Sterling is stronger than the Euro, but it’s raining and I have the time to do the research.The exchange rate seems to make it not worth sourcing but it is. The reasons for these exchange rates are external (e.g. stock markets) and internal (official interventions by the government) [10], meaning that a country has influence on the way it currency appears to the public. Even British media had to admit that from some approaches the Pound sterling can be considered as “overrated” [10]. Final StatementI therefore think that leaving the EU will be a long term will result in an unnecessary political and economic conflict that will cost both countries money and time they could spent more efficiently on enforcing unitedly their interests on the global market. This might be idealistic but the concept of the EU remains to push weaker countries to their best and grow into one large and strong economic union. Internet has brought mentalities and people together internationally and Britain can decided if they want to ignore the tendencies to work together or ignore it. But going back to something that has worked in a different time doesn’t seem clever. I don’t boot Windows 2000 anymore, although I think it was a great system and worked just fine at its time, because it can’t handle what is demanded today. Full Source List[1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk...[2] http://www.euromove.org.uk...[3] http://www.1stcontact.com...[4] http://www.bbc.com...[5] http://www.euromove.org.uk...[6] http://europa.eu...[7] http://www.echr.coe.int...[8] http://money.cnn.com...[9] http://data.worldbank.org...[10] http://www.thisismoney.co.uk...