Gay Marriage should be legal.

I won't tell anyone to do anything, I don't have that much faith in humanity, but I have enough faith to at least assume that people are capable of individual judgement. And 33% aren't against me, those are the total number of Christians, but not every Christian is against gay marriage. "I know we don't have a problem now, but if marriage becomes even more legal and supported for gays, then it soon WILL become a problem. The status quo there IS no problem," What problem? Do you honestly believe that there are enough homosexuals in the world to threaten our numerical stability? "Next to the 'sex for reproduction' point. While it's true that couples will sometimes use contraceptives, about 44% of married couples will have children. [http://factfinder.census.gov......] When a gay couple marries, this takes away the possibility of reproduction for two couples." Way to continue to ignore the fact that gay couples are already doing this, they just aren't able to necessarily marry, giving them the right to marry will not affect this in any way, so even if they were somehow threatening mankind (protip: they aren't, seriously, 6.7 billion people last I checked, overpopulation in certain eastern countries) not letting them marry won't stop them. "Back again to the 'decrease of male population available'. Sure, in small numbers gay relationships won't hurt, but a drastic increase will occur if gay marriage is legal" A point you've made, a point I've answered. Yawn. "There might be 10 ft. between you and your neighbor, but if y'all are both gay then their won't be any babies made." Yeah see now I know you're deliberately not considering my arguments. "In a world full of gay people," http://www.answerbag.com... 2% Homosexuals make up roughly 2% of the world's population. Repeating the same argument over and over doesn't make it true. "Wow. Keep it in your pants now. We both know that's not the kind of hurt I meant. Point flows to me, once again." Sarchasm: the distance between a user of sarcasm, and the recipient who doesn't get it. "-So my opponent showed why divorce IS an increasing thing." No, please stop putting words in my mouth. I showed how divorces spike uniquely after legislation is brought in but then lower periodically. Also: http://www.exgaywatch.com... Remember, roughly 50% chance of divorce in heterosexual marriages. Mmm, very symbolic. "This is obviously a problem" It's also hypocritical, you can't moan about something and then use it's detrimental effect on itself as a point against it. What you're doing is like saying "a person needs one hand to hold a gun, therefore if you have one or more hands, you're a murderer" "For eternal love and loyalty to the other person." http://www.divorcerate.org... And I quote: "50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce, according to Jennifer Baker of the Forest Institute of Professional Psychology in Springfield, Missouri." Mmm, very symbolic, whole lotta, what was it? oh yeah, "eternal love and loyalty" You know the stuff your pastor tells you isn't always true? "And please, don't call the Bible mine." Then don't lie "I am an atheist." Case in point. Sorry but you seem to horribly misunderstand what atheism is. Atheism is the belief that at best all Religion in the world is inaccurate regarding the fundamental nature of our existence, and at worse a total lie about the fundamental nature of our existence. No self respecting atheist has any reason to look at anything from the perspective of the church, and yet the very first thing you said, the absolute first thing. "Lets look at this from a religious perspective" Like claiming to be a US Marine, then shooting yourself in the foot. Subtlety, learn it. "Gay couples of all religions can't." Funny that you insinuate that all religions tolerate gay people. "Also, statistics say nothing of atheist couples" Way to miss the point on this entirely, marriage is referred to as holy matrimony, atheists (as I'm sure you're COMPLETELY aware of as a fresh n' funky for-real atheist) stand in direct defiance of that, atheists do not even believe that concepts like holiness exists, they are an affront to every church in existence, and yet they can be joined in HOLY matrimony. Seriously, if you were an atheist then you'd have got that way sooner. Sure you're not just agnostic? Oh, wait, no, "perspective of the church" nah, can't be that. "My opponent has unsuccessfully refuted my argument and it, therefore, flows Neg, to me" Veridas' debating tips for the day #34. when debating, always read your opponent's arguments multiple times before answering to make sure you understand precisely what they're trying to say, this will arm you to properly deal with their points and not look like you're rushing through and repeatedly or deliberately misunderstanding them for the sake of your own argument. "The last point is perfectly shown by this one, that children will assimilate what they see around them" Yep, them gay people banging in the street's a real problem here in England. Please, as if children realise the difference between heterosexuality and homosexuality. The kind of age you're talking about, I doubt they'd care if they saw two men or two women holding hands, hell when I was in primary school, the girls held hands with each other all the time, besides, seriously, how many kids that age are more interested in relationships than, for example, the next episode of Power Rangers or whatever the hell kids watch these days? "this one too my opponent has not refuted." See, here's your problem. I took care to make sure I did, actually, if you think I haven't refuted your point then it would bolster your argument to explain why, as you have tried to do previously, which leaves incidents like this looking mighty suspicious, almost as if you're hoping the voters won't go back and, you know, read. "So my opponent states that these things are secrets?" Again with the putting words in my mouth. Not secret, no, but not open either. I'm going to assume you know what a closet homosexual is. "Every child has heard of homosexuality and that it's bad, but if they begin to hear it's good and LEGAL, then little Bobby and little Timmy might just start experimenting starting a trend even worse than Christianity itself." Nice jab at the church there, did you have to stand in the shower for a while after saying that? Also, considering that having it illegal hasn't stopped gay people from existing, how can you justify that making it legal will create the so-called problem that already exists? and if they do start experimenting it'll probably be in puberty, you know, when they actually gain an interest in sexuality and when their genitals start becoming dual-purpose body parts. "My opponent doesn't understand my point apparently. Situation in the past:" Are...are you even trying? seriously? How many black people have you seen lynched lately? How many men and women in white sheets? Slavery in America ended. Black people now have all the rights white people do. Now think about it, if the slaves hadn't been freed, do you honestly think the situation would be better? You, sir, are the one that doesn't understand, or chooses not to understand. "This is the same thing that will happen with homosexuality" Why the future tense? did you not see my links and my oh-so witty use of the words "or this?" "My opponent says we should teach our children to accept something we don't? " What's this "we" crap? First sign of an ignorant little toad: assuming everyone else agrees with you. "This marriage thing will INCREASE the hate," In the same way that freeing black people increased the discri-OH WAIT! "insults will only win you a negative vote on the conduct.