The PATRIOT Act takes away rights and therefore is bad.

- Thet do not wiretap our phones, internet and live, they DATA MINE, they type a word into a computer lets say bomb, and press enter. + I never said that they wiretap phones. I said that they have the power to. They have a gauranteed supeena. (Section 2703(c)(2) of title 18, United States Code, as redesignated by section 212, is amended-- (1) by striking `entity the name, address, local and long distance telephone toll billing records, telephone number or other subscriber number or identity, and length of service of a subscriber) All they have to do is type a name, or anything and they can listen whoever's phone they choose. What happened to unreasonable search and seizure? - They ONLY see documents and what not with that word in it. They do not see anything else. The Government isnt spying on us. + They can just type your name and listen to your conversation.(Section 2703(c)(2) of title 18, United States Code, as redesignated by section 212, is amended-- (1) by striking `entity the name, address, local and long distance telephone toll billing records, telephone number or other subscriber number or identity, and length of service of a subscriber) - There is nothing wrong with DATA mining, and the ONLY way they will wiretap, is if they have a reasonable cause. Whats a reasonable cause? A reasonable cause is if they see an email that says something like: Hi Achmed, praise Allah! I am building a bomb and plan to blow up the U.N. + They need a warrant for that. Imagine if the government converted everybody to Islam for the purpose of stopping terrorism. Where will destroying the constitution end? - To your second claim: gives the police the right to not have a warrant or alert a person of the fact they are searching property. Once again, they do not do this without a reasonable casus, like the example I gave before. Now here is the kicker, since they only do it with reasonable cause, it is FULLY CONSTTUTIONAL!!!!!!! What does it say in the Constitution? + Procedure is to go to a court room and get a warrant except in the PATRIOT Act. `(C) when the United States is engaged in armed hostilities or has been attacked by a foreign country or foreign nationals, confiscate any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, of any foreign person, foreign organization, or foreign country that he determines has planned, authorized, aided, or engaged in such hostilities or attacks against the United States; and all right, title, and interest in any property so confiscated shall vest, when, as, and upon the terms directed by the President, in such agency or person as the President may designate from time to time, and upon such terms and conditions as the President may prescribe, such interest or property shall be held, used, administered, liquidated, sold, or otherwise dealt with in the interest of and for the benefit of the United States, and such designated agency or person may perform any and all acts incident to the accomplishment or furtherance of these purposes.' '`(b) DELAY- With respect to the issuance of any warrant or court order under this section, or any other rule of law, to search for and seize any property or material that constitutes evidence of a criminal offense in violation of the laws of the United States, any notice required, or that may be required, to be given may be delayed if-- `(1) the court finds reasonable cause to believe that providing immediate notification of the execution of the warrant may have an adverse result (as defined in section 2705); `(2) the warrant prohibits the seizure of any tangible property, any wire or electronic communication (as defined in section 2510), or, except as expressly provided in chapter 121, any stored wire or electronic information, except where the court finds reasonable necessity for the seizure; and `(3) the warrant provides for the giving of such notice within a reasonable period of its execution, which period may thereafter be extended by the court for good cause shown.'.' - "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon PROBABLE CAUSE....." They do it upon Probable cause, and are fully constitutional, they are not taking away our rights. + They need a warrant and a judge must decide that cause is probable. Nobody decides the cause is probable except for the seizer of the property. - Point three: Where do you get the idea that they don't get a fair trial? I have not heard of anybody who was caught in a terrorist act, not getting a trial. + `(ii) If the court orders disclosure of matters occurring before the grand jury, the disclosure shall be made in such manner, at such time, and under such conditions as the court may direct. `(3) Any action under this section shall be tried to the court without a jury. - The Patriot Act is a good thing, if anything, it helps to protect our Liberties by keeping us safe. + It destroys our rights as people. Bush can be a dictator next if he wants to. - The people of the United States will guard the guards, by electing the right people (NOT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON or BARAK OBAMA!) into office. Our rights are being upheld, and our lives kept safe. + Bush was the guard andhis lack of being guarded caused our constitution to be violated. - I would like to once again show that you have brought up NO evidence or proof or logic for your statements. I have. + Try the direct quotes from the PATRIOT Act. Please stop the name calling. It does not help your case. Thank you.