Any female wearing immodest clothing wants to have her rape fantasy fulfilled.

I'm actually later than within the five-hour response time that this debate's managed to produce, So I apologize in advance for any inconveniences this may have caused (such as being mildly flow-breaking; this was a (relatively) rapid-fire exchange of arguments until now). I see I've actually forgotten to state what most debaters happen to clarify at the most basic level: where I stand in the argument. Although it is rather late (being round three), I'd like to state that not any female wearing immodest clothing has a rape fantasy; I am con, Therefore I am against your argument. I had thought that my stance in the debate was clear in that I stated that there are ". . . Other reasons regarding why women wear immodest clothing"; clearly I need to elaborate more, Which I'm grateful you picked up on. I also appreciate your clarification on other uncertain matters in the debate. I promised substantive matter; I shall deliver, But first I will rebut. I do believe we can delve further into the matter of shaming. However initially irrelevant to the topic at hand this subject of 'shame' may seem, I believe it is quite important. Because as I originally stated, I believe that some females wearing immodest clothing wear it to steer clear of shame; what this word 'shame' means is important to understand the point. From what I've interpreted from your argument, You do not believe 'slut-shaming' is shaming at all due to the fact that the 'slut' had in fact chosen to dress immodestly and therefore, Shaming her for doing something she (in your opinion) wanted to do would not count (Please correct me if I'm wrong). However, I'd like to point out that a) we haven't settled the matter of whether the group of those who dress immodestly consists of more than just those with a rape fantasy, And b): I stand by the fact that calling someone something hurtful, Intentionally to hurt them or simply to point out a fact, Is shaming. Think about it. Though face-to-face, This person might not care as they had a 'rape fantasy' so therefore pointing that out to them might not hurt them, 'slut shaming' is something which happens online, Where other people can see; the opinion of the victim doesn't matter here, The shame comes from others who read this info online and decide to feel such a way towards that person. Rape fantasy. Clarified, And really, Quite intriguing. Personal opinions aside, I'd like to explore two parts of this argument. The first is the reliability of the statistics; having little knowledge of how the survey was conducted, I'm not here to doubt the authenticity of anything, Merely to question how you can reliably ascertain that the survey, Which surveyed females and found *some* harbored rape fantasies, To determine that this is the case for all women surveyed? ". . . Studies have found females", And not "found *that all* females". This means that not all women surveyed had such rape fantasies; though this may seem irrelevant as those without rape fantasies might not have worn promiscuous clothing, How do we know that those with rape fantasies also happened to wear promiscuous clothing? This means that it can be pretty reliably deduced that not all promiscuously-dressed women have rape fantasies; the survey did not clarify the fashion choices of those with rape fantasies and as such cannot be relied on. My very first argument still stands. The second is a little more tricky, Which is, This time, Exploring the reliability of your statement regarding rape fantasy. How do we know for certain that those with rape fantasies unconsciously pick out promiscuous clothing? Though it is is reasonable that *some* who harbor rape fantasies happen to express such a fantasy in a more subtle way by dressing like so, It is less certain whether the unconscious mind affects your choice of attire that much; really, There isn't proof that this is a thing. Though this is of course likely and agreed with by many, There have been women arguing that this isn't the case. And who knows your own unconscious mind better than yourself? It's a stretch to claim that what is in fact really stored in the unconscious mind affects the conscious mind and therefore choices you make; the survey showed that the unconscious mind stores such a fantasy but showed nothing about how this would reasonably affect the conscious mind. Can we infer anything like this without proof? I believe this is not the case. In summary: I believe that shaming is irrelevant to the opinion or reception of the victim. In support of my very first argument: surveys have clarified what rape fantasy is and vaguely represent the number of women with such a fantasy, But do not mention whether these women with these fantasies wear promiscuous clothing or whether women who don't have these fantasies also wear them therefore making them unreliable, And finally, How far of a stretch it is to assume that even those who harbor rape fantasies would ever let it affect their day to day life; there is little information regarding the unconscious mind and therefore less of a convincing argument.