In a fight, Voldemort and Dumbledore would beat Megatron and Optimus Prime.

I must also remind viewers that movies are not a very reliable source. Movies tend to exaggerate certain abilitiies and aspects in order to make a more epic and interesting show. However, I will concede to PeacefulChaos's sources. I will go on to refute my opponent's weak attempts at a refutation.Refutation:1. My opponent seems to forget that in the video he provided, Starscream is trying to find Sam, meaning that he does not see him. This means Starscream was not paying attention to the grappling hook, as he did not see it, as he could not see Sam. All this proves is that Sam is good at not being noticed and hiding. You could be the best at dodging things, but if you do not notice something coming towards you, you will be unable to dodge it. I must also remind my opponent that this fight is Megatron and Optimus vs. Dumbledore and Voldemort. It is logical to assume that Starscream is weaker than Megatron and Optimus, as Megatron leads the decepticons and Optimus is just as strong as Megatron if not stronger. Also with the fight against Dumbledore and Voldemort, Megatron and Optimus will be solely focused on them. If they try to hide like Sam, Megatron and Optimus can easily level the city, and I will prove this later on in my refutations. My opponent also thinks that "small projectiles have proven to be useful when battling Decepticons". Please take a look at the video again. The grappling hook does not seem to cause any damage, Starscream is just annoyed of it and trying to shake Sam off. Much like a mosquito bite on a human does not cause any damage, it's just annoying. So we see that the robots will be able to dodge projectiles, and even if they do hit, it will do be no more than an annoying mosquito bite. Therefore, my point of reasoning still stands how it would be easily dodged. My opponent also seems to think that spells travel at the speed of light. In the source he provided, http://fanfiction.mugglenet.com..., it is unanimous that the spell cannot move at the speed of light, as then the wizards are unable to dodge it. Wizards are after all, just humans with magical abilities, they do not have increased physical ability. Let me ask you something. Can you and I dodge things that move at the speed of light? No. Now, if I had could cast spells would I be able to? No, because it will not give me enhanced physical abilitiy. I admit that the wizards do have better than average reaction time, as they have been countering and dodging spell their entire life, but it is impossible to have a reaction time faster than the speed of light. That does not even remotely make sense. At least read the sources you provide, PeacefulChaos. Viewers, this shows how PeacefulChaos is just placing random websites to gain your source vote, while I actually read the websites I provide. Everyone there agrees with this line of reasoning: that the spells seem to be energy forms, but cannot move faster than 200mph as then they would be undodgeable. As with wizards having the reaction time of speed? Wizards do not have enhanced physical abilities. After all, they are essentially just humans who can cast spells. My opponent tries to prove the speed of the spell with another video. Sure, they look fast, but in reality, how fast can they be? As a said, movies tend to exaggerate effects to make it look more epic. These spells cannot move faster than light, as they would be undodgeable. Wizards do not have enhanced physical abilitiy! So we see that my point still stands, about how laser beams move faster than the spell, meaning that the robots can kill the wizards much faster, as well as being undodgeable. Futhermore, wizards will be unable to counter lasers, because their wands are built to counter spells, not pure energy forms, and it is logical to assume that this is not within their capability. So this argument falls and my opponent's rebuttal does not hold water. 2. As this rebuttal is related to the first one, I have essentially already refuted this. Let me remind my opponent that placing an explosive on someone's head is very different from using the spell reducto. First, that would be impossible to dodge. Second, the explosive would do much more damage as it is placing on your head. Therefore, opponent's line of reasoning is incorrect when he tries to compare the spell reducto with placing an explosive on someone's head. These cannot be compared as they are very different things. 3. I must remind my opponent that Megatron can level a whole city block in one blast. And that's just Megatron. We're forgetting about Optimus, and since they are of around equal strength, it is logical to assume that he has the same ability. My opponent uses this line of reasoning all the time with Voldemort and Dumbledore. This means that Megatron and Optimus can level 2 city blocks with one blast each. Both Optimus and Megatron have unlimited ammo, as they have never had the need to reload or recharge, so it is logical to assume so. Also, the guns do not fire normal bullets, but instead seem to get their ammo from a different source. What does apparating to a different part of the city do to advance the fight? Nothing really. Megatron and Optimus can just wait until Voldemort and Dumbledore show up again. Or they can hide as well by transforming and blending in with other vehicles, and this results in a stalemate. I must remind my opponent that Optimus and Megatron are seasoned war general, so he has a lot of strategy and knows exactly what to do. Both Voldemort and Dumbledore do not have as much experience in war as Megatron and Optimus do. Optimus and Megatron have been fighting for hundreds of years, in comparison to Voldemort and Dumbledore who have at most 40 years of experience, with most of that time spent on learning new spells not war strategy. Therefore, there is no need to run around trying to find them as my opponent suggests. Also, my opponent has agreed that apparating takes time to cast. As nothing is faster than the speed of light, the laser will hit the wizards before they can complete their spell. 4. Note how my opponent has conceded this point to me. He agrees that Optimus and Megatron can defeat Dumbledore. The robots can just team up on Voldemort, who does not have the elder wand, then team up on Dumbledore later. The crux of this argument is that wands are really powerful. But what really can a wand do? Deflect spells and cast spells. As a said in my first rebuttal, lasers are not spells. Therefore, it is logical to assume that wands cannot counter lasers. If they try, the laser will just burn through the wood of the wand. My opponent may argue that the wand can deflect explosive spells, etc., but I must remind my opponent that guns and lasers are not the same as spells. So this argument is defeated, just by saying that, yes, the wand is super powerful in deflecting spells, but is it really in deflecting bullets, missiles and lasers? No. 5. Okay fine, as the name if Petrificus Totalus suggests, it probably petrifies a person. I guess the real question here is: can an object be petrified? No, because it is not a living thing. As this spell has never been used on an object, we must assume that it does not work on an object. Therefore, it would not work on non-living things like the robots. 6. Things cannot be created out of nothing: http://harrypotter.wikia.com...'s_Law_of_Elemental_Transfiguration So we see that the C4 example does not work. What I meant was the robot's parts are attached, so it would be difficult to transform part of an object. In fact, never has only part of an object been transfigured before, it has always been an entire object. So in this case, the entire object (robot) must be transformed rather than just a part, as it is not a living being. e.g. transforming only the buttons on a calculator, and not the entire thing.Sorry, but I will have to end here as I have ran out of space.