Atheism is a more reasonable position than theism

I'm sorry if it seems rude of me but I wasn't able to derive much from Con's round 1 offering. Still, let me take what I think is their key position, and I quote: ----- "so i am arguing that atheism is a form of theism in itself, ----- which makes atheism religion, which means that the only ----- better position is agnostisism, as that is the only true position" I can't gloss over the contradiction implicit the statement "atheism is a form of theism". I can only assume that Con meant to say "atheism is a form of belief". And that can only even *begin* to make sense if Con is using a different definition of atheism than me... specifically, Con is using the incorrect definition of atheism that I specifically warned against: Definition: Atheism is the absence of belief in any god. (it is not, necessarily, a belief that there are no gods) So, Con, please be clear on what you mean... again you only have two choices: either you are blatantly disagreeing on my definition of atheism or you honestly think that a lack of belief in god is a form of belief in itself... and that's simply bonkers. That's as stupid as thinking that "bald" is a hair colour. Look at it with this made up conversation: Bob: Hi Mary, do you believe in the Loch Ness Monster (LNM)? Mary: No. Bob: Where's your proof? Mary: Proof of what? Bob: Your proof that there is no LNM! Mary: Um, I never claimed to have a proof that the LNM doesn't exist. Bob: But your lack of believing in the LNM is, in fact, a form of belief! Mary: No, Bob, no... if I claimed to believe that the LNM didn't exist, you might have a point... but I don't... I neither believe that the LNM exists, nor do I believe that the LNM doesn't exist... I do not have a belief about the LNM. Can you understand that, Bob? Can you? Bob: No, I can't... there either is a LNM or there is not a LNM, so, which do you believe? Mary: Oh, Bob; you're right that reality is a dichotomy, but our beliefs about reality are not. Here, look at this jar full of sweets. Bob: MMMM, those sweets look tasty, what's your point? Mary: It must either be true that there are an odd number of sweets, or it must be true that there an even number of sweets. Do you have a strong belief either way? Bob: Umm, well, no, I haven't counted them! Mary: Bob, do you BELIEVE that there are an even number of sweets in this jar? Bob: No, I don't... I told you, I haven't counted them! Mary: Where's your proof? Bob: What proof? Mary: Where's your proof that there are an odd number of balls in that jar? Bob: I never claimed that there were an odd number of balls in that jar. Mary: But if you don't believe that there are an even number of balls in that jar, you must believe that there are an odd number, no? Bob: Um, no... I suppose not... I don't believe either claim. Mary: Exactly! And just the same, I am not a member of the "I believe in Nessy" club (nessyists), but neither do I belong to the "there can be no such thing as Nessy" club (anti-nessyists)... I simply lack a belief about your Nessy (I am an a-nessyist) So, let's be clear... An atheist does not necessarily believe "there are no gods". That would be a belief system; in fact it wouldn't be anything akin to a religion, even then, but I will concede that to believe in such a position requires faith of sorts. However, the atheist merely DOES NOT BELIEVE IN A GOD. Would you disingenuous theists stop conflating that with "BELIEVES THERE IS NO GOD"? Please!? It makes you look so shifty, cheating with words like that... like you're desperately trying to hold on to a point that you know you've already lost... Atheism does not necessarily entail any belief at all... as such, it is significantly more reasonable than any system that asks people to believe something without providing any evidence. Con, you'll need to do better than this... to win you will have to either provide reasonable evidence for a god, or you will have to provide a reasonable explanation for why there is none but it's still reasonable to believe... can you do either?