Naruto Is Not Gifted Or Privileged. He Has Worked For Everything He's Got.

Naruto is more hardworking than gifted. Jinchuriki Transformations. Naruto didn't ask for this power, Nor is he arrogant with it or use it for bad or destructive reasons. My previous argument debunks this. Version 2. "Why do you need control in a fight when you can rely on a massive chakra pool and commit to techniques without consequence? " There are consequences, There are massive injuries and wounds on his body which puts his life at risk. Source: Naruto vs Orochimaru (Naruto Shippuden) Naruto reaches 9 tails state uncontrollably. When the fight is over and once the 9 tails receds, His body is severely burned and Sakura had to heal him. "All Naruto needs to make this version without consequence is be able to control the form. " It isn't that easy to control since 1. Massive amount of chakra. 2. Kurama at this point does not like Naruto and is not friendly towards him. "When Naruto did gain the version 2 it is has made version 1 pretty much without consequence. " What does that mean? Nine-Tails Chakra mode. "It does state he requires caution when transforming into the form since it can go wrong but if it hasn’t occurred in the show I can state it is not a problem instead something the writer conjured up to make it seem like a problem even though that problem has not affected Naruto. " It has occurred in the show and it is a big problem, As I have debunked this in the Version 2 point. "If Pro can show me video evidence of the transformation going wrong and costing his life, Then I will concede this point. " Already provided source. Naruto vs Orochimaru (Naruto Shippuden)"I highly doubt Pro could because as far as I remember Naruto has not died in the series so “could cost him his life” has never occurred. " Of course he hasn't died, He's the main character. Naruto has almost died though. Source: 4th Great Ninja War arc. Nine tails gets extracted from Naruto, Naruto almost loses his life. When a Jinchuriki gets their tailed beast removed from them, They die. Naruto is saved and gets 9 tails back. "could cost him his life" literally means "has not died" because there's a "could" involved meaning he almost had the potential to die. Tailed beast mode. This point neither proves or disproves anything. At this moment, Naruto has worked for everything he's got up until this point. He didn't magically turn into tailed beast mode. Killer Bee was training Naruto, And Naruto then met Kushina (his mother) during the process all the while playing tug of war with Kurama and eventually having control. Source: Naruto Shippuden episode 246. Ninjutsu. "To show how much Naruto relies on his gifts before Jiraiya showed up Naruto knew only the sexy technique. " Makes no sense. How does Naruto rely on his gifts before Jiraiya shows up? He didn't just know sexy technique. He knew shadow clone jutsu. "This technique had no advantage in a fight if the person was not shocked when Naruto turned into a girl. " Yes it does. Source: Character named Ebisu. Episode 2 of Naruto. "Yes granted Naruto had to learn how to summon toads from Jiraiya but this is on the premise of him being his godson. " What other premise must it be? Naruto did work for it. "This is more of a gift than hardwork because without the gift of being Jiraiya’s godfather he would not have learnt those techniques. " Can't be helped. You can't control who you are related to. "I very much doubt he was capable of it by himself. " Why do you doubt it if you say he's gifted? If he's so gifted, Wouldn't be be able to do it by himself? "I consider the connection a gift because no amount of hard work was required for Jiraiya to be his godfather. " You consider the connection a gift? Makes no sense. That can't be helped. It's impossible for hardwork to be involved. Beyonce and Jay Z -- one of the most successful and richest couples have a daughter, Blue Ivy. Does that make Blue Ivy gifted just because of her parents? She didn't ask to be here. She didn't work hard to be related to her parents. On a realistic aspect of course you can say she's gifted by the fact because her parents are filthy rich and that she's set up to be an entrepreneur, But it makes no sense to say something requires hard work from being related to a family member when that is beyond someone's control, Be it godfather, Godmother, Aunt, Uncle, Etc. Shadow clone technique. "Even if Naruto did not know the true intentions of Mizuki Naruto still thought he could cheat with it. " Naruto was manipulated by Mizuki. He stole it because of Mizuki. "If Naruto was hard working he would never take the scroll but if he relies on his gifts but failed he had to rely on cheating. " So are you saying here that he had to rely on his gifts? It's like damned if you do damned if you don't. If Naruto doesn't use 9 tails it's bad, If Naruto uses 9 tails it's bad. That's what I got from that. If I'm wrong, Let me know. "The shadow clone technique gained from the scroll allowed him to outnumber enemies, Create illusions, Change into weapons etc. " False. The scroll only allowed him to do multi-shadow clone jutsu, Not those other things. 'Illusions' Naruto can't do genjutsu. 'Change into weapons' he accomplished that on his own. Rasengan. "Being because of his connection to Naruto not because of his hard work. " It's because both the connection and his hard work. "It does state in the wiki Naruto uses his chakra poorly but that does not matter because of his massive chakra pool. " It does matter since rasengan is very difficult to control as it is spinning chakra simultaneously. "If Naruto was hardworking he would find a way to effectively use his chakra but instead he relied on stealing the shadow clone technique and his gifted power of Kurama. " "he would find a way to effectively use his chakra" explain that. Nature transformation. "This only occurred because Naruto was not capable of mastering wind chakra by himself and the writers just shoved Asuma with Naruto just to make sure he does actually learn to master wind chakra. " How is Naruto gifted if he was unable to master wind chakra by himself? If he was gifted he would actually be able to do it on his own. Keep in mind Naruto worked very hard when Kakashi was training him plus he broke a waterfall in half that Yamato created. That's from Naruto's hard work. Six paths sage mode. "That is not hard work or being gifted so neither of us has a point. " I do have a point. "I am not supposed to be defending Rock Lee if I was you would have made it clear in the title or Round 1 so that I know what I am supposed to be typing for my Round 2. " Okay I understand now. I only added Rock Lee in the argument because in our private messages, You made a comparison between the two and you brought Lee up first. So it wasn't a need to add it in the title or Round 1. Your words:"Rock Lee did not steal powers there was no point of him training. ""It is useless for Rock Lee to train. He requires to steal powers to be one of the most powerful people alive. "You could have told me to not include Rock Lee in my argument. Nonetheless, Rock Lee will be dismissed. The focus will only be on Naruto. "By the way you literally copied from the video. That is not yours instead someone else’s. You either have a double standard or ignorant to what you did. " This is perfect. I wanted you to do this and I knew you would. Now I can call you out for your hypocrisy. Don't you remember that you did the EXACT same thing? You made your argument based off of a whole video and not your words in our previous debates before. The first time you did it was in the "Should Anime Be Watched In Sub Instead Of Dub? " debate in R3. You said "Begining my argument on Naruto. (This is basically from the video so do not complain because you did not watch it and it is okay to information from a video becuase didn't you watch Naruto or read the Manga of it? ) This is going to be simple straight to the point so that I can get your opinion on it without filling to much of my own. " The second time you did it was in the "Naruto is a good show" debate in R1. So now I'm turning over the tables and doing the same thing to you. So how does it feel? You don't like it? Well, You did do the same thing to me did you not? Now you know how it feels. How are going to originally use a youtube video against me taking someone else's words and yet when I do it back to you, You don't like it and you have something to say about it? I merely responded to your video with another video that opposes it. In the beginning of my Round 2 I literally explained that I will be using a video to counteract your video that you typed as well, Not only that, But my message that I sent to you the day before this debate, I said verbatim "Ok and btw my premise will be a youtube video just letting you know. I will see your argument for tomorrow. " so why are you acting so surprised? All I'm doing is 1. Rebutting your argument and your stance with a video in which I sourced and gave credit to. I didn't plagiarize. 2. Using a video since you used a video on me before. I'm getting on your level. Two can play at this game. Also, You have "double standard" confused with hypocrite. Thanks for acknowledging the fact that I'm not ignorant, Because I'm far from it.