Hulk Vs Spiderman (Hulk wins)

First of all the statement "In addition, as he insinuates, there is a lot of that information does not impact the result of a battle between Spider-Man and the Hulk. " is not true. As I said there may be one or two abilities that may not of much us in a fight. E. g. : Hulk's ability to home in on the site if his ‘birth' Spiderman's inability to resist inebriation, but most of the other powers mentioned can be used in a fight. Now on to the argument: Contention 1 (Con): My opponent stated that all Spiderman has to do is to calm the Hulk down thereby rendering him ‘harmless'. Not only is this an incredibly difficult thing to, it's also highly dangerous. Take for example Hulk's fight with the Sentry (Robert Reynolds). In addition to being one of Hulk's closest friends, Reynolds also had the ability to project radiation capable of pacifying the Hulk. Yet even he could not defeat the Hulk, even after he unleashed his full potential and even though he was a being whose power levels equalled that of Superman. And yes the Hulk is weakest when he is calm, but even at his ‘weakest' he is nearly 10 times stronger than Spiderman at his peak. "Given that Spider-Man is in fact one of the most intelligent non cosmic characters in the Marvel Universe (even Ant man considered Peter to be far more intelligent that he is) and that he has worked with the Hulk on the Avengers long enough to understand how he thinks, Spider-Man would easily deduce a method which could be used to relax the Hulk enough to revert him to Bruce Banner. " Spiderman may be smarter than most, but please consider the fact that some of the brightest minds in the marvel world have tried to come up with ways to calm the Hulk including Reed Richards, Toni Stark and even Bruce Banner himself, only to come up blank. To think that Peter Parker, clever as he is, could figure out a way to calm the Hulk, while engaged in a fight, with no prior preparations, is near impossible. Another thing about the Hulk is that trusts almost no one, one of the reasons he is always so angry. He believes that the whole world is against him so Spiderman has little chance of proving himself as a friend, especially on such short notice. Spiderman may have worked with the Hulk on several occasions but he has also fought the Hulk on as many occasions. Contention 2 (Con): I myself have been involved in discussion which debated that conversation. While it's true that Peter Parker stated he could defeat the Hulk. He never said he could it without any preparations. For all we know all Parker did was to figure out how to create a device that could suck the gamma radiation out of Banner, killing both him and the Hulk. Please note, this was just a notion which occurred to Parker has never even been tested by him. As for Spiderman beating Firelord, that was PIS (Plot Induced Stupidity) in my opinion. Here's why: a. Firelord can move at light-speed, Spiderman shouldn't't even be able to touch him b. Spiderman kept raining blows on Firelord and he didn't even retaliate when on the other hand Firelord had single handily beaten the Avengers team in the same issue. c. Not to mention that anybody who's blown entire meteor swarms into atoms and melted asteroids into slag shouldn't have had much trouble tagging Spider-man a good one. Even if it meant incinerating every air molecule within three blocks. So to think Spiderman beat Firelord in a fair fight even with his symbiote suit (which he was wearing at the time) is unthinkable. . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://i17.photobucket.com... Also to state that Firelord was above Hulk in terms of strength is not in the least bit true. Here are a few examples of his strength: a. Hulk is trying to destroy a massive Deviant machine built to defeat the Celestials on their next visit. Narration states: "He just pulls all the more, straining with every iota of his strength to rip free this infernal object. .. becoming madder and madder, his strength building with his anger, as he tugs against a device built to withstand the power of gods (celestials) But this is the power of the Hulk and ultimately, there is no force stronger than the Hulk! " Note: . http://en.wikipedia.org...(comics) b. Beyonder searches for the Hulk and finds him in the desert. Hulk attacks the Beyonder. Beyonder puts the Hulk in stasis and begins to probe him. The Beyonder says of the Hulks inner potential: "You are nothing but power incarnate! An infinity of power with no finite element inside! ! Worse yet, you remind me of someone (himself). " Note: . http://en.wikipedia.org... c. The Hulk shows sufficient strength to break out of the Silver Surfers force barrier. The Silver Surfer (who is/was a herald of Galactus too) has casually created barriers that can allow normal humans to withstand black hole level gravity. Surfer was fully concentrating on containing the Hulk and failed due to the Hulks ever increasing anger/strength. Note: . http://en.wikipedia.org... Now I would like to put forth some arguments of my own: Contention 1 (Pro): True, the Hulk is not the sharpest knife in the block, but he is shown being perfectly capable of rational thought on more occasions than one. One that comes to mind is during the movie Incredible Hulk (remake), when Hulk used a Sonic Clap to put out fire. So anyone who says Spiderman just has to keep hitting the Hulk without ever coming in reach of his fists is forgetting that the Hulk has a couple of long range attacks in his arsenal. For e. g: The Thunder Clap/Sonic Clap which pops the eardrum and causes the opponent to lose equilibrium, leaving them disoriented. Spider-Man would have to be at least two or three blocks away from ground zero when the Thunder clap is applied to escape its effects. Here is a quote showing the power of the Clap: "Hulk with another supersonic clap is able to produce a shock-wave that "puts to shame the most powerful hurricanes in the history of the planet" (King Size Annual 3) Or the Smash attack, where Hulk is capable of creating an earthquake by pounding his fists on the ground. Contention 2 (Pro): All the Hulk has to do is wait for Spiderman to make a mistake or tire (Spiderman doesn't have anything close to Hulk's near inexhaustible stamina and has been shown to tire easily on more than one occasion), by which time Hulk will be pretty much super-angry and pound him to a paste. The Hulk for all his size is not slow at all and is seen capable of going punch for punch against Thor, a being with superhuman agility and reflexes rivalling Spiderman's. So all Hulk has to do is land one punch and Spiderman is pretty much history. While on the other hand Spiderman's punches are pretty much ineffective on the Hulk who is capable of enduring impact from high calibre guns, even in his calm state. So unless Spiderman has somehow managed to get bitten by a boxful of radioactive spiders during the fight and gain 10 times his current power level, he is pretty much a smear on the ground. Oh did I mention his webbing is pretty much useless on the Hulk? Hope I made my point, looking forward to round 3. :)