The Bible Says Plainly that Homosexuality is a Sin

If you have not already strayed from the topic I intended, you are dancing precariously close to that edge. Your conclusion does not even mention homosexuality or God's condemning it in the Bible. You simply state that I should not judge what are sins and what are not sins. I'm a bit confused. I hope you realize that eighty percent of your arguments bear no weight in the topic at hand, and I have little refutation to do. This debate is NOT ABOUT WHAT IS AND IS NOT SIN. It is about whether or not the Bible condemns homosexuality, whether it is a book of "guidelines" or not. Take it or leave it. I would like, first of all, to makes sure my opponent does not falsely accuse me of saying that there are exceptions to sins. THERE ARE NONE. I may have made the mistake of sounding like that is what I was saying, but I most certainly did not mean to, and the whole idea of it is ridiculous. The commandment that says "Thou shalt not kill" is condemning all unlawful killing. Any other killing is either capitol punishment or commanded by God Himself, in which case it is not sin at all. I hope we understand eachother now. The idea that God created some people homosexual is ludicrous. God, in the New and Old Testament says that homosexuality and sodomy are both abominations. God created something He hates? Ludicrous. God said all of His creations were good. You claim that my verses in Leviticus are "laughable," but I think that in your study of God's "book of guidelines" you have not looked far enough. You claim that they were abolished along with the commands like not trimming your beard and such, but God also condemns idolatry in the Old Testament. Is that, too outdated? Yes, there are some laws that have ben outdated, like the laws that states if men touch a woman while she is on hear period, he has sinned. Why, though, are these laws abolished and not homosexuality, you might ask. The answer lies in the sacrament of baptism. Back in the days of the Covenant of Works, there were many things that made people "unclean", such as touching a woman while she is on her period, or wearing cotton polyester blends. However these things were abolished at the institution of baptism. The Greek word for baptism is 'baptidzo' (bap-TEEd-zoh), and its English translation is 'ritual washing'. In the Old Testament, things that made you seriously unclean, such as touching a woman while she is on her period, required a ritual washing or cleansing. Once this cleansing took place, the person was clean again. In the New Testament, when baptism took the place of circumcision, it also abolished the need for ritual cleansing, because the blood of Christ has cleansed us all permanently. This, however, did not abolish laws against adultery, murder, homosexuality and the like. This is because they are, for one, also condemned in the New Testament, where the convenient or works is in affect, but also because they are sins against you own flesh, which is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and the flesh of others, who are made in the image of God. These sins sis not simple make you unclean, but defiled you completely. Thus the punishment of death for homosexuality, and not trimming the tips of your beard. I am not saying that homosexuals should be stoned, however, anymore than I am saying people should be stoned for cursing their parents. This punishment was taken with Jesus' death on the cross, and His Grace extended to sinners. Having said this, my verses in Leviticus still stand and await refutation. In defense of the passage I quoted in 2 Tim. 3:16, I say you put words in Paul's mouth. You say it is "implicative" of "self-teaching." I am at a loss as to where you are coming up with the "self." It says EXACTLY what it says, nothing more, and nothing less. All scripture is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness. If there is any "implication," it implies ALL men, not only one's self. Having said this, my argument from 2 Timothy still stands and awaits refutation. In defense of Matthew 18:15-17, I have little to say. You imply that if my brother sins against me, he is not sinning against God as well? My friend, please look to the Bible for counters to these, your petty and fragile arguments. Matthew 25:40--- "And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'" That should settle the dispute, and yet another of my arguments stands and awaits refutation. My last verse to be defended is 1 Cor. 6:9-11. You, along with every other Christian pleading for "tolerance" of homosexuality claim that "homosexual," and "sodomite" are translational errors. Well I, as a student with two years of Koine Greek under my belt, and having the support of two Greek scholars backing me, that is my Pastor and my Greek teacher, am here to tell you that this is no mistranslation. The word used in the text is "Malakoi," which is the nominative form of the word "Malakos." The three possible definitions for this word are: 1) Soft 2) Fancy, Luxurious 3) Homosexual Pervert I choose number three. Obviously neither of the other two make sense, and that leaves us with but one choice: Homosexual pervert. This is no translational error, and if you have contentions, take it up with the dictionary in the back of the Greek New Testament laying in my lap. The other word is "Arsenokoitais," pronounced "ar-sen-AHK-oi-tais." There is one definition for the in the lexicon that I looked in, that is, my Greek teacher's lexicon. and that is: 1) A Male Who has Sexual Relations with a Male. Once again, if you have any contention please feel free to attack my teacher's lexicon. I assure you it will not change it's definition. This verse as well now stands and awaits refutation. "To conclude, not only does sin have exceptions as my opponent pointed out, but it clearly states in the bible to not judge others. Jesus's teachings clearly indicate that he is the judge and not us. Therefore we as humans cannot (and have absolutely no right) to judge others and determine what a sin is and what a sin isn't. A sin is a wrong done against God. Only the person committing the sin and God know what a sin is and what a sin isn't. The Bible is to be used for a tool for becoming closer with God and determining his plan for our lives. Not to use as a weapon to judge others and determine sin." It's nice that you feel this way, but next time let's try to conclude something relevant to the debate at hand. It is now your job to show why my arguments are wrong, and how, in your opinion, the Bible permits homosexuality. Nothing more, and nothing less. Thanks for the interesting debate! Renzzy