Resolved: That "b*tches ain't sh*t but hoes and tricks" (2)

The 'Objectivity' Contention I told Con that I had to be untraditional in the comments section, and here it is. Unfortunately, he mistakes my wording for a concession. What is an objectively false statement? If I were to say that red heads do not exist outside out the United States I would be objectively wrong. To contemplate whether B exists outside of the United States is objectively drivel, but not objectively wrong. Dre could easily maintain consistency by claiming that B only exists because he perceives it or that H and T are intrinsic properties of B. If we look at it from Dre's view and add some simple logical backing, the idea can easily be universalized once its subjectivity if accepted. Similarly, if I were to make a subjective judgment like "horses are bad" the statement is neither objectively right or objectively wrong. If I were to pose "horses are bad" as a debate topic, Con could not accurately claim that he is objectively correct in claiming Con because his claim amounts to "horses are objectively neutral or better" not merely the negation of the universal claim that horses are bad. Does Dre really believe Dre's Law? Dre actually cites a few cases in his lyrics in "B ain't sh1t." I used to know a b**** named Eric Wright We used to roll around and f**k the h0es at night Tight than a m0ther**cker with the gangsta beats And we was ballin' on the m0ther**cking Compton streets Peep, the s*** got deep and it was on Number one song after number one song Long as my m0ther*u*king pockets was fat I didn't give a **** where the b**** was at But she was hangin' with a white b**** doin' the s*** she do S****** on his d*** just to get a buck or two And the few ends she got didn't mean nothin' Now she's suing 'cause the s*** she be doin' ain't s*** B**** can't hang with the streets, she found herself short So now she's takin' me to court It's real conversation for your a** So recognize and pass to Daz I once had a b1tch named Mandy May Used to be up in them guts like everyday The ***** was the bomb, had a ***** on sprung I was in love like a mother**cker lickin' the pearl tongue The homies used to tell me that she wasn't no good But I'm the maniac in black, Mr. Snoop Eastwood So I figure n***** wouldn't trip with mine Guess what? Got gaffled by one time I'm back to the mothe***k1ng' county jail 6 months on my chest, now it's time to bail I get released on a hot sunny day My n**** D.O.C. and my homey Dr Dre Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second And already gotta do some mothe*****1ng chin checking Move up the block as we groove down the block See my girl's house, Dre, pass the glock Kick in the door, I look on the floor It's my little cousin Daz and he's ****1n' my h**, yo (B***** ain't sh*t) I unc**ked my s***... I'm heart-broken but I'm still locked Man, f**k a *****! [1] Even if Dre does not believe in this proposition exactly, it is quite apparent that the mentality of Dre's law pervades life in early 90s Compton, California. If there are social facts about male attitudes towards the female's role in the inner city in Compton, this is certainly one of them. To gloss over gender attitudes would be unbelievably ignorant, as is the view that "Dre is just randomly saying it to sell records." I will stand my ground that such an attitude is an entrenched social fact, and thus an effective medium of an objective reality. Note that there are different meanings for "objective" reality and I use them in a different sense throughout this argument.Moreover, how does Dre sell his records? What if Dre had wrote a song about chivalristic attitudes in Compton, California towards females? Obviously such a song would be interpreted as a joke, and art is not created in a vacuum. While the exact intentions behind the song remain unknown, what we do know is that Dre's art relates directly to his experience and "gangsta" culture, as documented by numerous other artists including 50 cent, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, and more. Dre's lyrics can be seen in conjunction with these other artists in providing the public with a certain worldview that Dre's law encapsulates. Am I dismissing feverish's attempt to defining reality?To clarify, I do not believe Dre's proposition is false. Nor do I shrug off feverish's opposing view while unabashedly supporting Dre's. Imagine if I spoke to a cowboy in the 1800s over the use of horses, and he tells me that "horses are good." Now, imagine a conversation with an Arab trader over the use of horses in transporting objects over miles of sand and he tells me that horses are bad and needy. Who is right? How do we approach the problem if it were to be posed on DDO? Given the non-starter of going by the standard of true philosophical objectivity, it becomes a matter of beliefs and social facts. I would maintain that the statement "horses are good" has some degree of truth value even if there existed ten times as many Arab herdsmen as cowboys. Those who stated the proposition certainly could not be proven wrong by their detractors or in any objective sense. Source in comments.One more thing, I will be on vacation starting on the 13th. If Con can respond by the 10th, 11th, or 12th I will most likely have time to respond. However he can certainly choose to respond on the 13th if he would like the uncontested win ;)