John Adams should replace Jefferson on the nickel.

My opponent proposes that he should be able to prove that there founding father more worthy then Adams to replace Jefferson on the nickel, will not my original intent I will welcome this change. --------------- Since we do not have a textbook definition of "should" I will propose one. Definitions: should: used in auxiliary function to express obligation, propriety, or expediency [1] -------------- "However, my opponent's descriptions of John Adams does not prove why he should be on the nickel. Although he did many things in his lifetime, that does not show at all why he SHOULD be on the nickel. " If you read my first round arguments you wound know I stated that he is not properly honored and I believe placing him on the nickel would fill this void. We honor people because of their life achievements and contributions; Adams had many of these. I would now like to point out that if my opponent wishes to suggest one of our other founding fathers is more deserving then Adams, then burden of proof is now on him and not me. This is evidenced by his own words, "I have the ability to convince the readers that another person besides Adams should replace Jefferson. " I will now show the disparity between Adams and the other founding fathers the my opponent has mentioned. Alexander Hamilton: Take out a $10 bill and look who's on it. I think it's safe to say Hamilton has been honored. John Hancock: First of all I will remind you and voters that the burden of proof is now on you not not me. Hancock's achievements were not nearly as great as Adams'. Everything you mentioned Adams had done as well: Signer of the Declaration of Independence. So was Adams. He opposed the Stamp Act. Who didn't? Elected (1766) to the legislature. So was Adams. Governor of Massachusetts. Adam's was president of the United States of America. Even still with his minuscule achievements in the face of Adams' he is honored even more then him. This is part of the reason I started this debate. "The U. S. Navy has named vessels USS Hancock and USS John Hancock; a World War II Liberty ship was also named in his honor. Ten states have a Hancock County named for him; other places named after him include Hancock, Massachusetts; Hancock, Michigan; Hancock, New York; and Mount Hancock in New Hampshire. The John Hancock Insurance company, founded in Boston in 1862, was also named for him; it had no connection to Hancock's own business ventures. The insurance company has passed on the name to famous office buildings (the John Hancock Tower in Boston and the John Hancock Center in Chicago) and the John Hancock Student Village at Boston University. " [2] John Joy: He was first chief justice? Ya, your going to need more then that if you want prove he is more worthy. The supreme court was considered a joke before Madbury VS Madison established the powers of the court. [3] Patrick Henry: All but 2 people on every majorly used currency in the US has been a US president. Hamilton because he created a national bank and very involved the creation on the financial frameworks of this country so it's only fitting he would be on the $10 bill. Ben Franklin because well I don't I have to tell you why Ben Franklin deserved his spot. This is a good summery: "leading author and printer, satirist, political theorist, politician, scientist, inventor, civic activist, statesman, soldier, and diplomat. As a scientist, he was a major figure in the Enlightenment and the history of physics for his discoveries and theories regarding electricity. He invented the lightning rod, bifocals, the Franklin stove, a carriage odometer, and the glass 'armonica'. He formed both the first public lending library in America and first fire department in Pennsylvania. He was an early proponent of colonial unity, and as a political writer and activist he supported the idea of an American nation. As a diplomat during the American Revolution he secured the French alliance that helped to make independence of the United States possible. " [4] Once again his achievements are no where near Adams. Thomas Paine: Once again he was never president and never served any major political office. He didn't even sign the Declaration of Independence. "Even Thomas Jefferson himself was remarkable. He was the chief author of the Declaration of Independence, served as Secretary of State and as President of the United States, and doubled the size of America with the Louisiana Purchase. " Jefferson is generally credited with writing the document, but there's a whole lot more that went into it. In fact it was John Adams that got Jefferson to consider writing a draft to begin with. Jefferson did not volunteer to write the document, it was only after John Adams encouraged him to do so that he did. [5] Jefferson also used most of the Deceleration from the ideas of the Enlightenment. For instance the line "Certain unalienable rights. .. .life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" are not new ideas, in fact over 100 years earlier similar words had been spoken by John Locke: "life, health, liberty, or possessions. " Even just a month before the draft was written a document containing very similar language had appeared in none other then Jefferson's home colony, Virginia. Written by George Madison is said the following: "enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety. " [6] To say Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence is a grave ignorance of historical fact. Add that to the fact it was it was heavily edited by the committee of five which Adams served in. The declaration was being authored 200 years before the signing in the hearts and minds of millions of men. It's interesting you "highlight" these points. First I'd like to note that it's hard to give credit to Jefferson merely because they had an opportunity to do something that others did not. Anyone who was the president at the time would've made the Louisiana purchase. Jefferson just merely was at the right place at the right time. I think it should be noted that the purchase and expedition also goes against the very thing Jefferson preached against, big government. To make the very purchase you highlighted Jefferson had to use the very thing he hated Alexander Hamilton for, the national line of credit and debt he argued against! [7] Jefferson hated debt: "We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds. .. [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. .. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for[ another]. .. till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery. .. And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. " But once he was in power he no problem defying his own principles. --------------------- Points Dropped by my opponent: 0 A B C D E F G H I G K L So ALL OF THEM. ----------------------- Conclusion: In the words of my opponent "My opponent has not reached his Burden of Proof. " He has failed to prove why the men he selected should be placed on the nickel rather then Adams. "I have given sources and views of other great men who deserve to be on the nickel as much as John Adams does" I gave sources too? And no you have not proved why they are more deserving then Adams seeing as you DROPPED ALL MY POINTS and had weak ones.