The Holy Spirit is real

First, let me get things straight. My opponent has already concluded confidently that the Holy Spirit cannot be proven as real because there is no physical evidence. Of course, I do not like debating anybody who has absolutely no open-mindedness (because it could be considered a waste of time). But I shall have fun indoctrinating RichardCypher and proving that his automatic conclusion is wrong. Second of all I want to remind you that I am not arguing for Creationism as this is not a debate about that. Instead I will have to let you research evidence (scientific, historically, observably) for God, but still showing a provable case that the Christian Trinity is not a myth. "...anything someone claims the holy spirit done it is not practical reason because someone else can attribute the so-called act to a ghost, wind, fate, destiny, or logical order." The Holy Spirit comes unlike we could comprehend because He is God and God is all-powerful. I say this because I believe that the Bible is God's Word and what He says in It is true, so I will have to have - faith - that our Creator God does not just have little assistants (Jesus and the Holy Spirit) who work with Him. DEFINITIONS AND INTRODUCTION Most people would say that Holy Spirit is the third part of the Trinity. The Trinity is 3-in-1 because there are three parts of one good God who created the earth. All the Creation evidence that can be seen throughout the universe and history is really eye opening and it all comes together when you read the Bible, because after all, it is truly His story that we are even here, living; it is part of His story that we are debating this. The very beginning of this magnificent story can be read in Genesis, chapters 1 through 7. We see that there"s more to it than "God created the world and it was good." Jesus and the Holy Spirit created it too, [1] and all of the creations were not just good, but perfect. That is, until the Devil tempted Adam and Eve which disrupted this perfect world. This is the Creation story and it is where things start to tie together. CHRISTIANS PROVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS REAL I always wonder, if the Holy Spirit hasn't been around all this time, how and why have Christians been so involved and enthusiastic in their faith? Most Christians that I have ever known started off skeptical and seeing the logic in atheism more than believing in a guy up in the sky. But then they realized something, and in my opinion their eyes are opened when they experienced the supernatural gift and friendship that you can have as soon as you allow Jesus and His (the Bible"s) morals into your life and heart. [2] These Christians become not only devout and satisfied with their faith, but also they are still learning things and keep discovering more gifts from the relationship with God. This just seems too complicated for a person"s conscience to make up, as if the whole thing they call a relationship is a simple figment of their imagination. [3] Furthermore, this would mean that approximately 77% of the American adult population would be labelled mentally crazy, and that would cause a ripple effect of multiple controversial changes in the American way. [4] Who knows what would happen then. The point is: I challenge you (my opponent) to consider why Christians are so devoted if, when they read the Bible and it says you shall have a relationship with Christ and they end up not having one (as you say). And if I were to suppose that they are NOT all mentally ill, than why wouldn't the Holy Spirit be real too? The link for the TV series, called "Encountering the Holy Spirit THE JORDAN RIVER," is on Round 1. I strongly encourage you to watch because it gives a thorough explanation of the Holy Spirit working and powerfully moving in people's lives. THE BIBLE (FIGURATIVELY) PROVES THE HOLY SPIRIT IS REAL By studying/reading in Genesis, we realize how the Trinity worked in the start of human history and how it is systemized so that all Three have roles even though they are all God. For example, John 6:44 says "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. It is written in the prophets, 'AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.' Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me." Then again in John 14:6, "No one comes to the Father except through me." [5] This is proof enough that God's Son (Jesus) and the Father (God) work(ed) in unity, as a tri-une God. You can see how the Holy Spirit has had and has now a significant role in this world. Everything I will explain will probably have a foundation coming from God's Word, but when explaining the Holy Spirit I will mostly be sharing stories of witnesses plus accounts of when the Holy Ghost has been seen and experienced. Here are some verses that have become real to people about the Third Person in the Trinity: Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire." Acts 2:38 "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." In this verse, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are united in works to make it possible for us to receive supernatural gifts and be released from all guilt and sins. Luke 11:13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask!" God is saying here that even though we are sinful, we can receive nice gifts - just as we give gifts to our kids - and that the Holy Spirit is better than any gifts! This also explains why all around the Bible it says God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are our friends who love and help us more than we can comprehend. This is who the Holy Spirit is. 2nd Corinthians 13:14 AND Philippians 2:1-2 "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all." Verses that can in a way prove the existence of the Trinity: Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man in OUR image." John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. And the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God." John 10:33 "'I and the Father are one.' The Jews took up stones again to stone Him: Has it not been written in your Law, 'I said, you are gods'?" Philippians 2:9 "Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of those who are on heaven and on earth and under the earth, every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." [6] THE UNIVERSE PROVES THE HOLY SPIRIT IS REAL This is an amazing fact that will be interesting for you to try to rebut. That the divine Trinity, the tri-une God, has created a great universe which is itself a trinity, with each of its three components also structured as trinities. This would not necessarily prove that God is a Trinity, but it is a fact that needs explanation. Could God have created it as a model (or type, or analogy) that would help people understand His own Nature, at least in some degree? The universe is all Space, all Time, and all Matter (including energy as a form of matter); in fact, many scientists speak of it as a Space-Matter-Time continuum. Each component permeating and representing the whole as the Universe. Furthermore, note the parallels between the divine trinity and the tri-universe in terms of the logical order of its three components. Space is the invisible, omnipresent background of everything in the universe. Matter-and-Energy reveal the reality of the universe. Time makes the universe understandable in the events occurring in it. Note that exactly the same sentence will apply if the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit replace the words, Space, Matter, and Time. Space itself is also a tri-unity, comprised of three dimensions, with each dimension permeating all space. The reality of any portion of space is obtained by multiplying the three dimensions together (the "mathematics of the Trinity" is not 1+1+1=1, but rather 1x1x1=1). Further, Space is identified in the first dimension seen in the second dimension, experienced in the third dimension. The same sentence could be used with Father, Son, and Spirit replacing first, second, and third dimensions. Etc. etc with the Time and Matter, as time is present, future and past, and matter is unseen yet omnipotent Energy. [7] HISTORY PROVES THE HOLY SPIRIT IS REAL Considering the fact that the Bible is composed of many journals, song books, prophetic words, poems, and more journals, we can call it historical artifacts written from the perspectives of real people. Here are some verses that show the Holy Spirit working in the lives of people in the Old Testament. Ezekiel 11:5; Micah 3:8; Zechariah 7:12; Acts 28:25. CONCLUSION The Holy Spirit proves that God is real. The Holy Spirit proves that Jesus is real. And finally, the Holy Spirit proves that there is such a thing as supernatural activity, this can be witnessed most times you encounter a protestant church or a knowledgeable Christian. I await your rebuttals and look forward to debating more. 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