Abortion

The only relevant argument opponent has given here is that a fetus has a ‘life’, but that doesn’t make it a sentient, conscious, viable, fully-grown human being.Ok, a few flaws. You say that since a fetus isn't fully grown that it is not a human, well I'm growing am I not human? Your growing, but your a human, people are constantly changing, so if we use the ever changing argument that no one is a human. So you mus tbelive no ne is a human, because were all changing as we speak. So this argument makesno sense. Also I have other relavant arguments, his is the main one. "To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion ... it is plain experimental evidence." The "Father of Modern Genetics" Dr. Jerome Lejeune, Univ. of Descarte, Paris "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic Still, doctors and scientsts agree with me, a fetus is a human from conseption on. Abortion results in the death of an innocent human being. It is immoral and unjust when evaluated in the light of the law of the land (our founding documents) and the divine commandment that forbids taking the life of an innocent human being (Exodus 20:13). [1] "My opponent claims that life begins at fertilization, which is wrong. In fact, life begins before fertilization. Sperm and egg cells are actually living things. But the question should not be when life begins, rather, it should be when must we consider that the fetus be sentient or actually feel anything."Yes life begins before fertilization, but a single joind life is made directly after it. So before it they are 2 seperate organizms, and when they join they bcome one. Sorry that I didn't clarify earlier. And it can feel things, I belive I posted a study above. But 'll show another example:At this point, it is uncertain whether a fetus experiences pain during the first trimester of development, when most abortions occur. However, recent studies have shown that the fetus most certainly does feel pain by the end the second trimester, when late-term and partial birth abortions are performed. Since general anesthesia is not used in most of these procedures, the fetus most likely feels pain during the procedure as limbs may be pulled off and scissors are used to puncture the base of its skull. [2]So it is certian that they feel pain by the 2nd or 3rd trimester, the first one has studies proving both. So a fetus does feel pain, but how much is the real question."Here’s a report published by Joyce Arthur entitled: “Personhood: Is a Fetus a Human Being?” {1}, according to her research, it showed that Fetuses are uniquely different from actual humans, and the most fundamental difference is that a fetus is totally dependent on a woman's body to survive."This is another fallacy, when you where a newborn you where dependant on your parents, yet you consider newborns to be humans. Pets are deoendant on their 'masters', and they get certian rights to life, and non abuse. So many things are depanant on an outside source, and get rights, so why don't fetuses. Before refuting, I will skip a few of your points, and address them later. "This premise fails on so many ways, look at the following scenarios and tell me that these aren’t morally wrong and society opposes such acts: -Self Defense/ Defense of others - It is considered morally permissible to kill a killer to save your own life or kill a person to protect loved ones and others?" Yes, but killing a fetus isn't in self defense unless the fetus is going to kill you, if you will dieu have the child by all means abort it, that is defense, but most abortions dont fall into this category. So, this point is a bad one. Kill one, save many- It is morally acceptable to kill the terrorists before 9/11 which affected upcoming the Afghan/Iraq war? Wellyou kill a fetus you aren't saving anyone. (unless your is in danger), so this point doesnt relate. "Parasitic twin scenario- We have a conjoined twins, and it only survives if we sacrifice one, so would it be considered moral to kill a weaker twin to save the stronger one? No surgery means both twins die. "Yes that moral, abortion is bad unless you are saving yourself, or nother baby. So in that senerio we agree. Trolley Problem- Let’s say you are in a moving trolley and your mother is tied to the tracks a few meters from you, you’re about to hit her. Although, there’s another way, but there are 5 people tied to the tracks in that direction. Now you have to choose between killing your mom and killing 5 people. What should you do?Well when in abortions do you threatan to kill 5 people? SO irrelavant. Only one of these has related. SO all of your case ispotheticals that you never face during abortion. So what is th epoint of this?"This is somewhat irrelevant to the debate, since Religion has no say on Abortion laws."I am a cahtolic, and we are against abortion. Most protestants are against abortion as well. The reason were against it is actually the thou shall not murder, and the bible says life begins at conception. Those dont say it directly, but those points relate to the topic, sicne we belive that a fetus is a human than we dont kill a fetus because it is against the 10 commandments. So relegion does have a say. http://www.godandscience.org..."My opponent admitted that this is irrelevant and we should just discard it, I agree, but even if we didn’t, this graph is unreliable and inaccurate since it has no source whatsoever and that it didn’t show how many people were interviews."It had a source, it was the only polling source, gallup polls. Look there if you dont belive me. And the graph on it showed gallup in a light font. It is credible, and from a reliable source. In america majority rules, a goverment by the people for the people, thats why I showed it. Since we are that then we should change the laws if it stays that way. Ok, now I will prove that a fetus is a human again, and that it is murder. I am running low on space, this proves that fets is a human with medical technology: http://personal.georgiasouthern.edu...It is murder:Many countries make abortion illega, and it is murder there. Your definition is exact. But people know what I mean. Killing a fetus should be illegal because it is ending a humn life on purpose, so your being technical, yet you know what I mean. A fetus is a person, and killing it is wrong. You have droped the backstreet abortion case. You really havent defended your case...at all. You have tried to kill mine, but it seems as though you offered no facts while doing so. DO you know what a hippocratic oath is? Its a oath ALL doctors take and they promise never to end, or hurt a human life. Well a fetus is definatly human, and everytime a doctor kills one he is breaking his oath. So by all technicallities doctors shouldn't be able to do abortions as it breaks their promises to humanity. http://en.wikipedia.org...I wish you god luck, vote CON! (I used your font to be consitstant). sources:http://www.prolifephysicians.org... [1]http://www.godandscience.org... [2]