Dead/ Alive/Yet to be born ...............there is no real difference.

treeless states: ''If Pro thinks that the human being and his life is defined by walks to the supermarket, then I have no other argument then that it is simply not true. People engage in significant and diverse activities that change the course of human history, their quality of life, and the quality of life of others. People have advanced in thought, scientific knowledge, technology, medicine, philosophy, culture, all influenced by our ancestors, be they soldiers, scientists, inventors, philosophers, musicians, doctors, and so forth. The human experience is changing and evolving. There is such a thing as progress. If Pro wishes to ignore this or dismiss this as insignificant, he is essentially stating that there is no significant difference between a single-celled organism and a human being that it might one day evolve to become.'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At last, something from you resembling a debate position. Let us examine 'the above'.Henry David Thoreau > Quotes > Quotable Quote “Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.”Listen treeless , the vast majority of our lives composes of 'walks to the supermarket'. What do I need and what can I get. To deny this is to look childish. Read the poem Ozymandias by Shelly, where the concept is explored further.You say that people engage in significant and diverse activities that change the course of history..............You suggest a progression as we move along. Are you saying in this that there is a reason to attach difference to past/present/future in this. If you are then surely the future is 'where its at'. If you are talking about a steady gradual progress then there are really very few trees on this road you describe that would distinquish that particular spot from another. What are you saying here? I am saying that this road of the human is virtually treeless. You say that the human experience is changing and evolving as if you are aware of the progression. So what is the future of the human based on this progression. Had we a start, a present going towards something definite. What is the progression. What is the evolvement. Who in the past/present/future was not undertaking progression and evolvment. Identify something significant, be it time or incident along this homogeneous road.A word of caution, treeless. Attempt to be less disingenuous within your debate contributions in future. You appear to totally focus on the material offered to you by your opponent and then you mould it as if it were malleable. Here are just three examples of the many for you to considertreeless states about Pro:he is essentially stating that there is no significant difference between a single-celled organism and a human being that it might one day evolve to becomeSorry but Nope!treeless states about Pro: Or rather, given the simplicity of his argument, he would have us believe that there is no also significant difference between a sparrow, a can of bean, and a human being, since all three share the same property of had been/is/will be.Sorry but Nope!treeless states about Pro:To him, Hitler and Ghandi are the same being, in fact, it would seem that a can of beans and Jesus have no significant difference based on his argument.Sorry but Nope!If I give you a can of beans you will have enough material for a lifetime, treeless. Hitler and Ghandi, dressed each day, Hitler walked his dog and Ghandi liked to walk. The individual moments of their lives are historical but they are also as real as you putting on your clothes today. Someone is getting dressed and walking their dog tomorrow..People within history repeatedly do the same things. Consider the annual pilgrimage to Mecca by Muslims. Consider a tourist landmark like 'Old Faithful'. Consider Stonehenge. It appears as if people instinctively want to make the connect with all time, ie past,present and future by repetitive physical action. Contrast this with our academic use of historical material and our conceptual ramblings into futuristic sci-fi. There is a serious disconnect in all this that allows the conscious present (of which we are part)to remove ourselves from the fact that the past and future are as real as we are, without any significant difference. We need to integrate past/present/future within a cohesion that makes sense. Within this outlook the horrors of Auschwitz would still carry the same currency as the atrocities of Syria today or indeed evil yet to be perpetrated. We would not differentiate in our analysis of life based on time but we would rather consider trend, pattern and likely progression. The curve appears regular and predicatable enough for us to be able to shape a definite future now. We could also shape the past by a process of genuine concern enquiry and reparation. We need to assimilate that Auschwitz is happening now and that it is highly likely that it is happening in the future. You speak about evolvement and progression, treeless. Imagine a craft-person who forgets on a daily basis how to conduct their craft. Imagine every morning as a practice session and imagine that a different object is attempted each day. This is what happens with selective/subjective amnesia within a primate subconsiousness. We are talking about peoples lives here as I said.How often have you heard people say..................What's done is done. or Whatever will be will be,,,,,,,,,,etc. The convenient delineation of past/present/future by us make it easy for us to keep dropping the ball. I await a wonderful retort on this treeless. Thanks