Resolution: Dota 2 is a better game than League of Legends

My opponents case and my counter argument: My opponent has not addressed the essence of the arguments against his position. My opponent says I have no knowledge of the fan heroes so therefore League has. However, he fails to mention that they completely lack in ‘fan heroes’ the way Dota 2 does. Furthermore, he fails to mention any of these supposed fan heroes that exist. Why should we think that these exist if we get no examples whatsoever? The answer: We shouldn’t. It is worth mentioning that I am a big fan of competitive scene of League and Dota 2. I play on a mid-high level ranked games (level 70 League Summoner, Level 27 Steam level) for both games, so I find it rather insulting that my opponent criticize my knowledge of League of Legends given my investment into the game just because I prefer something else. His whole point (analogy) is still invalid. He claims that just because one community has fan heroes and the other one doesn’t, doesn’t mean that one game is better than the other. BUT, that was never my point. Remember the argument I was refuting was the community argument by saying Dota 2 has a better community. So the analogy simply doesn’t follow and that part of the argument for a better community flows through. Another problem is that the link my opponent supplies never said that DFC intelligence made a retraction. This is dishonest labeling at best. While it does say that riot says that DFC says they are in the process of pulling their report. This seems to be hearsay at best. And this PC Gamer article (http://www.pcgamer.com...) is much more reliable source that has a reference directly from DFC saying: “We contacted DFC’s David Cole for more info. He pointed out that their findings were based on hours played rather than concurrent users,” Therefore I would advise caution on my opponent to simply dismiss the DFC report. Further, he tries to turn the WoW and Guild Wars 2 argument against me, saying that Guild Wars 2 is similar and that still games like League and World of Warcraft succeed. However this is absolutely beside the point! My opponent seems to think that size is the ultimate measure of playability and ‘goodness’. This is completely mistaken, that is the point of Guild wars analogy. I was showing that being a better game has to do with actual features not completely community or size. My opponent simply ignores the argument and says it favors him. This is amplified by the fact that my opponent has never justified his assertion that more players not only equals a better community but also a better game. He also hasn’t addressed my counterarguments, as of yet, regarding Valves heroic efforts to reduce toxic players via communication bans. As this is the only real argument my opponent has made for us, we can conclude that my opponent has meet his burden of proof. Because of this, I do not think a Vote for Con can be justified. My Argument: Unfortunately, my opponent has consistent dismissed my case without providing true arguments against it. This is troubling because since my opponent hasn’t really addressed my arguments, I must consider them dropped. I will address his shallow refutations, however. The first thing my opponent addresses is Freedom. My opponent basically just links it to his case by saying it doesn’t matter whether we have freedom (or unrestricted freedom) as long as they have a better community. Further he completely disregards all of the people who are F2P from League of Legends like they are meaningless. He simply disregards their feelings about what might be a better game or might be more advantageous to them. This is a very bad mistake considering many players are purely F2P players (I am one of those players). My opponent ignores my argument about freedom in specific features that are not ‘buyable’ (creep stacking purchasable?) and therefore drops the point completely (with regards to features that introduce more freedom into the game). When it comes to Graphics, my opponent has again ignored my argument. I showed different graphics cards and different graphical performance and payoff. In fact, I even said, contrary to my opponents objection about subjective way of looking worse, art style maybe subjective but graphical quality is not. For example, The Elder Scrolls: Morrrowind has objectively worse graphics than Skyrim (despite its superiorityJ). This is not subjective, this is simply the way graphical quality and benchmarking works. Unless we are going to see an appeal to Cubism here, I think my opponent has fundamentally ignored the argument. My argument about Accessibility had almost nothing to do with complexity. I was showing threw Dota 2’s introduction system, we have an overall better method of introducing players to the game. It is almost as if my opponent is simply taking the talking points of League of Legends versus Dota 2 and rephrasing them. When it comes to Depth, my opponent says that League and Dota 2 have similar mechanics so therefore they are on a similar complexity scale. However, I gave several reasons to think the opposite and as of yet my opponent hasn’t responded to them. This inflated by the fact that his argument only works for people who do not play at a serious level, because people who do will be legitimately be concerned about Depth. Further this builds upon my point about the stale metagame in League of Legends. Conclusion: I would like to thank my opponent as well as the voters for watching (participating in for my opponent) this debate. I have successfully argued that Dota 2 is a better game then League of legends and therefore I urge a Pro vote today.