The USSR played a more important role in defeating Germany than the western allies.

Ye your twisting my sentences again. When you quote sometimes you only quote half of my idea and leave the other half out. Anyway, I am going to completely ignore what you said in round 4 and simply state/prove why the Soviet contribution was greater. These were my four main arguments and I will simply copy and paste them because it seems that you completely avoided them: 1. 8 out of 10 of all German soldiers who died during WWII died on the eastern front. The German invasion of the Soviet Union was the largest invasion in history with over 4 million men and the battles on the eastern front were some of the largest and bloodiest in history. 2. Most of the Romanian, Slovakian, Finnish, Croatian, and Hungarian soldiers died on the eastern front. Italy also lost thousands of men in the east. These countries were all allied to Germany and provided a third of its manpower for the invasion of the Soviet Union. 1. The Soviets captured Berlin. This was the bloodiest battle in history second only to Stalingrad and it was the Soviet capture of Berlin that caused Hitler to commit suicide and thus effectively end the war in Europe. 2. The western allies were the ones who allowed WWII to start. France and Britain forced Germany to sign the treaty of Versailles in 1919 which would ensure that Germany live in poverty for years and later look to Hitler as the solution to their problems. When Germany broke the treaty Britain and France who wanted to avoid another war and decided to do nothing about it. This allowed Germany to build up the most powerful army in the world and begin annexing Austria, Czechoslovakia, and other territories. And then Germany and Italy both sent forces to help the Fascists in Spain... The Soviets were there opposing them but where was Britain and France? In 1939 Italy invaded Albania and Ethiopia. What did Britain and France do? Nothing! As a matter of fact, in order to invade the Ethiopia, Italy went through the British controlled Suez Canal. It was only after Germany wanted the Danzig corridor in Poland which it had had before they were defeated in WWI that Britain and France signed a pact with Poland to defend against German aggression. When Hitler was refused his request he decided to invade Poland. And once again, where were the British and French? Hiding behind their Maginot line. They let their ally bleed to death, just like they did when Germany invaded the Soviet Union. Churchill and Roosevelt agreed to open a second front in France in 1942. Stalin was waiting for this front, but instead he got a German offensive in the south toward the Caucus oilfields and the city of Stalingrad. After the western allies did not open a second front in 1942, they agreed to invade France in 1943 and once again they did not invade. It was only in 1944, 11 months before the end of the war when it was clear that Germany was going to lose, that the British and Americans finally invaded. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Conclusion: The Soviet Union did most of the fighting and most of the dying and that was how Germany was defeated in the end. The western allies were never up against more than a few hundred thousand axis soldiers at a time. The Soviet Union on the other hand was fighting against millions. The western allies fought on the sidelines until 11 months before the end of the war by which time Germany was all but defeated. The Red Army defeated Germany with some help from American supplies. However these supplies only made up 15% of the total Soviet production and by 1943 the Soviets were producing 3 times as much as Germany anyway. Whether you exaggerate the roles of Britain, France, Australia, Brazil(who only lost 1,000 soldiers in WWII), Canada, etc or not, the Soviets defeated Germany. The Soviets capture Berlin. The Soviets were the ones who did the main fighting and bore the brunt of the Nazi war machine. Thanks to the heroic sacrifices made by the people of the Soviet Union, countries like America and Britain only had to suffer a few hundred deaths each. All of the battles that had any effect on the outcome of the second world war in Europe were fought in the east and that's a fact. Also I do not understand why you are talking about Japan at all. Last time i checked, Japan was nowhere near Europe and this debate is about the war in Europe, not the war in the Pacific in which the role of China where 1/4 - 1/3 of the Japanese forces died is largely forgotten. ___________ "The USSR played a more important role in defeating Germany than the western allies." That is what this debate is about and most of your arguments are entirely nonsense. If you win this debate then it would only be because the people who will vote here are not front Eastern Europe.