The Avengers can destroy the Justice League

The wizard top 10 list I looked at was based off the magazine writer"s opinions, and it was used to give us a base for our argument. The only part of my argument that went off of the Wizard list was the initial rankings of the heroes, which was basically one sentence with no actual bearing on the outcome of the fights. Nothing regarding powers, or how a fight could possibly go can be thrown out by saying one sentence was opinion based. Therefore, I will not have to make a completely new argument. For most specifics beyond what was already commonly known about the hero, I provided a reference of some sort, but I will try to explain more thoroughly. Scarlet Witch has a fast brother so she can handle the flash? How can you "know" how to take down something that moves literally faster than you can think? Unless you were to completely catch him off guard with a "vibra bullet" like in the Tower of Babel storyline, a normal person wouldn"t have a chance. Especially since we are saying they didn"t have time to prepare beforehand. Honestly the Flash is completely unfair, especially post speed force Barry Allen version. For instance, if you are working with a computer, an instantaneous response time would be considered 100 ms from key press to response. Anything slower than that and you can detect a delay. https://www.pubnub.com... 100ms equals 100,000,000 nano seconds. Now, it takes light 333 nano seconds to cover 100 meters. Which means the Flash could hit all three non powered heroes (assuming they are all 100 meters apart) a 100,000 times faster than they can register an "instant" if he is traveling at light speed. In Flash #150, he actually moves 10 times the speed of light, so that would make it a million times faster than they could register an "instant" . Something that moves faster than you can think and react will move faster than you can think to use your magic, and all it would take is one punch. So I stay with my assertion that Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, and Black Widow would be down before anything could really happen. I would completely agree with you that Batman would have all kinds of issues with Iron Man. Which is why the other 4 members of JL that could fly would not let that happen. I still say that due to his "Technopathy" Cyborg would make Iron Man useless very quickly and handily, but I can give you another way this could end. Can Iron Man fly into the sun? Superman can. Goodbye Stark. As far as your Wonder Woman VS Cap fight goes, is she wearing her bracelets or not? With them on he has a chance to last more than 2 or three strikes, with them off, she is much more powerful. For the sake of this fight I will say she has them on still. If he can take hits from Thor he can take them from WW? Look back at the reference I showed for Thor"s speed. Slower than Wolverine. And let"s look at WW. Look at the panel in reply #13 http://herochat.com.... She got the jump on someone who just caught the Flash in the face with an elbow, after he threw Diana to the ground. So the Flash had an opening, got dropped, and then she grabs the same person with no issues. Not to mention that pretty much any WW comic you pick up shows her deflecting bullets with her wristbands. Her speed, especially when fighting is concerned is in the same ballpark as the Flash, and any iteration of the Flash has been much faster than Wolverine. And while we are at it, he took a fraction of a second to take out 3 Avengers already, he can help her put Steve into the ground. Also, I gave you a comic in which Batman actually beat the Hulk with no prior preparation. http://dc.wikia.com... However, I will do something different this time. And for the record, this isn"t the first time someone drastically underpowered has beaten the Hulk. Invisible Woman put a force field around his head while the Thing punched him, Ghost Rider (in volume 1, before he became super strong) was able to burn out the oxygen around his face in order to stop him. So, the obvious move would be to have him fight Aquaman under water, where Aquaman can go toe to toe with Superman right? But I will make it even more difficult for myself. How about Cyborg? http://comicvine.gamespot.com... it would take a bit or searching, but if you look for the word scramble, you find the panel which states that Cyborg could scramble Supes brains in 5 seconds. The Hulk isn"t Superman, but I am sure that would slow him down a bunch. Until a writer brings up that great old chestnut, where the Hulk is losing but just finds a way to get angrier than "ever" in that particular situation and overcome whatever or whomever is attacking him. That"s when one of the most overpowered heroes this side of the Silver Surfer comes into play. While the Hulk"s mind is being scrambled, until he gets more angry or whatever, Mr Allen introduces him to the infinite mass punch first seen in JLA #3. Which gives his punch the mass of a white dwarf star, or 333,000 times the mass of the earth when he is moving at light speed. Check out this entertaining yet informative video about that move. http://nerdist.com... Now either he pulls his punch and just hurts the Hulk a lot, or he doesn"t, causes a black hole, which he can outrun. Therefore JL wins anyway. I will go with the former, and I doubt anything has ever hit the Hulk with that much force repeatedly as the Flash could. I won"t even say the Hulk dies, but eventually he will be at least knocked out. The flash can hit him with those punches at the speed of light. If there are any more questions about how over powered the Flash is, look at this panel, and the commentary below it. http://comicvine.gamespot.com... (excuse the swearing in the comment below it). Now there is just Thor left. Mind you, Green Arrow and Batman have done nothing, and will continue to do so. The Flash is still running around being annoying, but he already used his super move to stop the Hulk, so he won"t use the same thing with Thor. However, since he can travel faster than light, Thor would not be able to hit him with lightning even though he could see his movements Avengers #281 he could follow Hermes even though other avengers thought he was seeing things). However the Wolverine fight is a damming example of his slowness vs how fast he can perceive. Plus Wonder Woman is sitting around doing nothing, and Superman is on his way back from the sun by now. Also, even though everyone hates on Aquaman, he has actually been seen to be fast enough to dodge lightning. http://comicvine.gamespot.com... look at response #7 and click on spoilers. It will show you a panel in which Aquaman dodges lightning from the Weather Wizard on land. Would he be enough to beat Thor? Absolutely not. But him, Wonder Woman, Superman (when he gets back) The Flash, and Cyborg will eventually wear him down.