Naruto Is Not Gifted Or Privileged. He Has Worked For Everything He's Got.

Jinchuriki Transformations Naruto didn't ask for this power, Nor is he arrogant with it or use it for bad or destructive reasons. My previous argument debunks this. Nothing here rebutted my claim of Naruto being gifted. If you rebutted “Naruto didn’t ask for his power, Nor is he arrogant with or use it for bad or destruction reasons” then you must be mistaken. That is nothing I claim. I am claiming Naruto is more gifted than hardworking. So basically this doesn’t even rebut my point. Version 2 There are consequences, There are massive injuries and wounds on his body which puts his life at risk. I meant as in using techniques. Without worrying about a massive chakra pool or the technique being taxing Kurama eliminates both things that can be a problem when using a technique. I did see your evidence. You would have had a point if you did not misinterpret what I said or I made it more clear. It isn't that easy to control since 1. Massive amount of chakra. Well gaining a massive amount of chakra reserve from Kurama does make the massive amount of chakra needed null if the both of the masses are the same. 2. Kurama at this point does not like Naruto and is not friendly towards him. As far as I know Kurama helped Naruto. Without him Naruto would have lost the match against Neji. What does that mean? Basically in the wiki it states when Naruto gained version 2 of the transformation the consequence of version 1 was eliminated. The wiki was not clear but I would say the amount of chakra gained from version 2 made it a non-problem in using version 1. Nine-Tails Chakra mode It has occurred in the show and it is a big problem, As I have debunked this in the Version 2 point. Debunked one point I made. Highly doubt you would offer the same courtesy when I have countlessly debunked your claims but oh well. Of course he hasn't died, He's the main character. Naruto has almost died though. Source: 4th Great Ninja War arc. Nine tails gets extracted from Naruto, Naruto almost loses his life. When a Jinchuriki gets their tailed beast removed from them, They die. Naruto is saved and gets 9 tails back. "could cost him his life" literally means "has not died" because there's a "could" involved meaning he almost had the potential to die. Stating it can cost his life can only be taken seriously if this has ever occurred. This hasn’t and if Pro has evidence of a certain other user using 9-tails chakra mode which has died then he has a point but this is plot convenience. If it does not happen why should I believe it to be case. Costing his life means death not has not died. A cost of life when losing it is death. “Potential” to die can only be true if it has occurred. If it hasn’t then this can be brushed off with other claims that have not had any evidence of actually happening. A main character can still be the main character and die. Example the end of Cowboy Bebop when Spike died. Source Youtube: Cowboy Bebop - Final Scene - Spike Vs Vicious Youtuber: Anas Hart Time frame: 5 minutes and onwards. By the way characters can come back to life with the Madara example so Naruto could have died and someone could have brought him back to life with the reanimation Jutsu. Don’t have the source of his body being reanimated but he was said to be dead but appeared later on in Shippuden. Source Youtube: The Legendary Uchiha Revivals, Madara Edo Tensei vs All Shinobi Madara Youtuber: Sarada Uchiha Time frame: 0:22 onwards. Tailed beast mode Killer Bee was training Naruto, And Naruto then met Kushina (his mother) during the process all the while playing tug of war with Kurama and eventually having control. Source: Naruto Shippuden episode 246. Granted yes it required Naruto to control Kurama but without Kurama Naruto would not be as powerful as he is now. Jirayia would be an example. For being alive for 50 years and he is still not able to unlock sage mode whereas Naruto at the age of 16 is capable of unlocking. This is not because of hard work instead of the gift called Kurama. Without Kurama Naruto would not be able to attain so many transformations. Kurama has a bigger part to play than hard work. If hard work was more helpful Rock Lee would not be so much weaker than Naruto but since hard work is not more important than having gifts Naruto is much stronger than Rock Lee. Looking at the list at myanimelist. Com for the top 25 strongest Naruto characters. The first 9 are all gifted and Guy Might is what I would consider more hardworking than gifted. You might think well that is really high for a person to be more hardworking than reliant on gifts but I checked the other 15 and all of them are gifted. Meaning out of the 25 strongest only one person who primarily used hard work to be powerful is in the top 25. If the show was about hard work more of Guy Might’s would be in the show yet we have countless examples of gifted individuals. Naruto and Sasuke are two gifted individuals which is only 2 out of 24 to pick from. Source: Top 25 Strongest Naruto Characters (MyAnimeList) Ninjutsu Makes no sense. How does Naruto rely on his gifts before Jiraiya shows up? He didn't just know sexy technique. He knew shadow clone jutsu. Missed out the shadow clone technique but Naruto did steal it. Meaning If you were given a argument for Naruto being hardworking before Jirayia came along Naruto only learnt through hard work the sexy technique. Stealing does not require hard work or gifts. What did help the shadow clone technique was the massive chakra reserve and the ability to perform techniques without it taxing Naruto making Naruto’s poor chakra control at that point null. If you think the bad chakra usage outweighs Kurama’s massive chakra why was able to create so many clones of himself? Look at how many clones Naruto was able to create with ineffective chakra usage. Source Youtube: Naruto becomes a genin! First time using multi shadow clone/ perfects it! Time frame: 3:27 onwards. Youtuber: J-Raz Anime Yes it does. Source: Character named Ebisu. Episode 2 of Naruto. I stated in my previous Round this which Pro so kindly leaves out: Sure it might work once but when people learn about this ability they will not be shocked instead use the opportunity to punish Naruto. This covers his rebuttal without even me needing to rebut. What other premise must it be? Naruto did work for it. Naruto working is not more important than him being gifted. If that was the case then Naruto would win in a fight against Rock Lee in hand to hand combat without any techniques but as shown with the Sasuke fight even though he used his powers Rock Lee still won. Granted he lost to Gaara but that wasn’t because Gaara was really good at hand to hand combat instead of just standing there and allowing the sand to do all the work. Without his gifts with only hard work alone Rock Lee would win. Only used Rock Lee to state a point. This is still about Naruto being gifted. Source Youtube: Sasuke Vs. Rock Lee! Naruto meets Guy Sensei and Lee for the first time! *Hilarious* [Full Video HD] Time frame: 2:43 Youtuber: Mannylo Anime Squad Can't be helped. You can't control who you are related to. No argument given for why Naruto is given so Pro concedes this point give me a point for Naruto being gifted. Why do you doubt it if you say he's gifted? If he's so gifted, Wouldn't be be able to do it by himself? I meant gift as privilege. You can have gift but not be able to control it. Yes that makes the gift useless but that is not the case with Naruto. Naruto still had massive chakra reserve and capable of using powerful techniques without it taxing him. You consider the connection a gift? Makes no sense. That can't be helped. It's impossible for hardwork to be involved. Yes it is a stretch to say connection is a gift but I have made that argument because it wasn’t hard work that made Jiraiya help him. Even if it can’t be helped it is still a gift. Does that make Blue Ivy gifted just because of her parents? Yes she is gifted with wealth which leads to much more opportunities in life but can remove some but the gains gained outweighs what is lost. More like an inheritance but can still be considered a gift. She didn't ask to be here. She didn't work hard to be related to her parents. Even if she didn’t ask for it, It is still a gift. On a realistic aspect of course you can say she's gifted by the fact because her parents are filthy rich and that she's set up to be an entrepreneurGreat job agreeing with me. But it makes no sense to say something requires hard work from being related to a family member when that is beyond someone's controlI am meant to give an argument that Naruto is more gifted than hardworking. My argument still stands. Shadow clone technique Naruto was manipulated by Mizuki. He stole it because of Mizuki. Still is stealing even if you didn’t know about it. Also look at how much Naruto has gained from stealing. The shadow clone technique allows Naruto to do a year’s work in a matter of days which is possible due to stealing and the gift called Kurama. So are you saying here that he had to rely on his gifts? It's like damned if you do damned if you don't. If Naruto doesn't use 9 tails it's bad, If Naruto uses 9 tails it's bad. That's what I got from that. If I'm wrong, Let me know. If Naruto was hardworking he would not be in the position of stealing a scroll instead he would have passed his graduation exam. Since Naruto is more gifted than hardworking Naruto relies on gifts and stealing which is not a point for me but how effective he was when using the technique is a point to me because of the massive chakra reserve, Powers not taxing him which is gained from the gift of Kurama. False. The scroll only allowed him to do multi-shadow clone jutsu, Not those other things. 'Illusions' Naruto can't do genjutsu. 'Change into weapons' he accomplished that on his own. It allowed him to multiple himself. Should have made it more clear that some abilities are gained later on in his life. Not enough space so rest of it in the comment section.