Transwomen Should Be Eligible to Play Sports in the Women's League

Happy to think with you today, I'll address your points first then move to my own. 1) We don't disagree. Trans-women are women. 2) We don't disagree. Women come in many shapes in sizes. However, We disagree a bit. More on this later. 3) Transwomen were born males, Not athletes. 1. The male body is not just stronger than the female body. It is superior in various ways. Larger quantities of blood means oxygen can circulate better, For one. The statistic we should be looking at is that Male athletes tend to outperform female athletes by a consistent 10% in most categories. With that 10% in mind, Elite athletes tend to be the top. 1% of females or males respectively. However, Way more than the top. 1% of males can beat the top. 1% of females. There are a LOT more than. 1% of males that will be superior to those elite females in nearly every way. Females can win against any male in many cases. However, This doesn't mean the playing field is even. This is the whole reason we have separated sports based on biological sex. Because females would nearly all be eliminated from competition if they were forced to compete with the more than. 1% of males that have this advantage over them. That being said, Transgender people do not lose this biological advantage if their gender does not match their biological sex. This is why having them compete in female sports is not fair to the females. We are trying to include a small portion of the population and alienating a massive majority by doing this. Just because the top. 1% of the female elite athletes have a chance against males doesn't mean we put them into male sports. Just because there is a subset of females 3 standard deviations from the norm that can compete against some males doesn't mean we should allow people who are biologically male and share those advantages to compete against them. Even if this were true, We aren't just talking about elite athletes in this post. We're saying that ALL transwomen should be able to compete in female leagues. That means trans women will on average be 10% superior to females. Females will gradually, Particularly if trans persons increase as a percentage of the population, Take the place of all females in their leagues. This is literally biological men competing against females. If you are for this, You have to be for the annihilation of female leagues, And us having only one league for all persons. The types of transwomen who this actually effects will probably be more athletic than other transwomen on average. Females were born females, Not athletes as well. This is flawed logic. 2. Fitness and nutrition play a bigger role than someone's biological sex does. Gender is irrelevant to sports. Biological sex and genes make 100% of the difference between two athletes who train optimally. This includes fitness and nutrition. 4) We don't disagree. Gender is largely a social construct. This is not what is important to me in this debate. I am pro-trans. This debate is about biological superiority which transwomen, On average, Have over biological females. 5) "There are pros and cons to everything" 1. You could make arguments for the inclusion of transwomen in any league which biological sex does not lead to superiority. These are largely outliers however, And is not a concession of the debate on my part. In general men outperform men 10% in most cases. 2. Transwomen are differently equipped the same as biological men are differently equipped from biological females. Precisely the same. To argue that all transwomen should be allowed to compete in all female sports is to argue that all biological men are 'differently equipped' and should be able to compete in female sports. Not all transwomen can compete against all women, But neither can men! Your argument, To prove your point, Has to be for the annihilation of sex-based sports. ---My arguments. 1. Summary of my argument against Cloe Trans women are biologically male. They share the 10% superiority in most athletics that males enjoy. That they are women is something I do not question. They still have the 10% superiority biologically, And thus you cannot include them by default unless your position is that all biological males should be included in female sports as well. 2. Expanding The matter is more complicated than your initial arguments. Few in the trans community that I've spoken with and seen agree that transwomen should be able to compete in female sports. I have found no statistics on this though, Which is unfortunate. A significantly larger portion of the trans community, From what I can tell, Believes transwomen should be able to compete IF they have had sex reassignment surgery and have been on hormones for some period of time. The reasoning behind this is that while transwomen still have penises and testicles, The recommended healthy testosterone is the normal biological male range. When they have had these removed, They can take blockers to put it at the biological female range. Their estrogen levels can be taken to the normal female range prior to the surgery, But they will still have the same advantages as a biological male prior to this. 3. From where does the Biological Male advantage stem? The problem with letting trans women compete who have had reassignment surgery and estrogen for a number of years is this still does not eliminate the totality of the advantages biological male have over biological females. A study by Stephane Bermon and Pierre Yves Garnier shows a full 1/6th of world champ track and field biological male athletes were below or at the female range of testosterone, Yet still outperforming females. Another study shows that even after prolonged hormone treatment, Transwomen maintain more bone density and muscle than biological females. These studies go to show that hormone treatments alone do not close this large gap in performance. It's possible that over the course of decades of exposure to larger amounts of testosterone, These benefits don't simply vanish in a year or two of hormones equivalent to the opposite sex you were born as. Based on previously cited studies, It seems that more than testosterone goes into the 10% gap between bio males and females. 4. Different Views on Sports There are two differing camps of people when it comes to one specific issue in sports. Do we allow performance enhancing drugs or not? Currently in most leagues we try to be 'fair. ' The definition of fair in this case is that everyone competes with what their body naturally does, And what performance gains they can get from dieting or exercise. Drugs are prohibited largely. When it comes to 'fair' sports, Transwomen are allowed to control their levels of testosterone and estrogen. Biological females are not. This comes into play even more when transmen are concerned. They are literally using performing enhancing drugs. I've looked for examples of transmen winning athletic events against biological men. I can't find any myself. Why do you think there is such a large disparity in transwomen victories and transmen victories? To conclude, The short of this is that biology is complicated. We don't know specifically what needs to change to give transwomen an equal playing field. Transwomen regardless of hormone therapy or not share some of the inherent advantages that their biological male status has conferred to them. My opponent must make an argument that bio males and bio females should be competing against each other to say transwomen who don't go through therapy and reassignment should be able to compete against females. Post-reassignment and 2 years of therapy, They still have advantages. The same argument still applies. Females should be able to compete against whomever they wish. I don't mind if they want to compete against men or transwomen. They should simply not be forced to. Out of a desire to include a few, You alienate the many. May your thoughts be clear, -Thoht