Tobacco Rights

Defenses: 1a."Suicide is not criminalized but instead the state can take preventative measures if they feel you are in danger of hurting yourself and others with malicious intent ot reckless endangerment, I like I stated before. This is not like cigarettes at all." Oh yes cigarettes is not reckless endangerment, your just killing yourself because you addicted to something thats made with nicotine which makes you dependent upon come on really your saying smoking is not putting yourself endanger and others around you. You have to be blind. 1b." That is the same with junk food though. People will buy the products knowing they are detrimental to health and do not support a healthy lifestyle. This does not prevent them from having the choice to do so – same with cigarettes. If a consumer was barred from everything that has negative affects on health, there would be severe consequences to both the economy and availability of products." Oh junk food again, let me ask you cigarettes are food? No, Drink? No, have any good effects besides give you a nicotine high? No, well at least fast food actually fills you up. Nor are they loaded with carcinogins, and have a slim chance of making you sick unless you actually eat it for break feast, lunch, and dinner. Then again why am i defending fast food? Why not make fast food illegal or make them change their food and make them healthy. These are people profiting off of people by giving the addictions and killing them. When do we draw the line? how about we draw the line at cigarettes, a concoction designed to kill people. You can at least tell food companies to try to make healthier food , can you make cigarettes healthy? No you cannot, they are made to kill people. 1c. "That's not important. Even though chemicals are intentionally used in chemicals to make it addictive and hurtful to your health, that is not grounds to criminalize them since it is the consumers choice. The only thing the state should do is make sure the consumer is educated in those affects so they can make an informed choice. " Yes, informed choice to smoke a stick like no ones ever been pressured to smoke cigarettes seeing how most smokers smoked before legal age and became addicted, to kill yourself to fit in. Then with cigarettes with their promotions on movies. Its been proven that cigarettes in movies in the past year infulence 100,000 kids to smoke cigarettes. Then they have promotions like appealing to women with brand call divine and lusious with pink packaging. Lets not talk about flavored cigarettes, those have finally become illegal with only menthol left. The only reason cigarettes are legal to day is every congress men/women are all bought out by the tobacco industry. 1d."The high levels of MSG and fats are addictive and harmful to health – these are added however since they increase the chance of the consumer coming back for more. And even if the product isn't pumped full of carcinogens and other harmful chemicals, it still has the same negative affects over time. To criminalize tobacco on these grounds would lead to the criminalization of fast food since a precedent would be set." If your so concerned about fast food how about opening a debate about that however eaten in moderation is ok and im sure obesity is more curable than cancer. Also maybe fast food companies should be sued, for all these things in their food and after while maybe they will see that they need to change their product but cigarettes are not able to change or be sued they are too rich to powerful in governmental arena. These people live off killing people, fast food not as much a tobacco industry. At least a Big Mac gives some nutrition, cigarettes do nothing but give you an addiction and kill you. 2a. "Again she's comparing fast food to smoking which as I have said earlier that tobacco is nothing like them yes both can have bad effect but fast food does not make you crave it for the rest of your life." "And your point is? Craving something for your entire life is not legal grounds for criminalization." Wow yes they are selling cancer sticks that make you addicted and kills you , why is hard narcotic's illegal if we allow cigarettes? They are the same the difference one's legal ones not. 2b. "This has been defended above...." "Still not proven." Proven. 2c. "yes, he can be prosecuted but really will a prosecution stop his kids from getting cancer from his smoking? No it won't you might get revenge but the damage has already been done." "The chances of cancer are not grounds for prosecution. That's like taking my neighbor to court since his car produces CO2 and I might be hurt when inhaling the fumes." Faulty argument seeing how CO2 don't kill people unless in large concentrations in an enclosed room. Plus I have seen people been taken to court for second hand smoke. If they have presented a clear pressence of danger to cause harm in the future or other wise is a crime. Ok moot point well how about this we are allowing people to kill themselves for money, simply put. Is that what a government is a money sucking mob boss who says pay your protection money ok here have a cig it will only cause you to have cancer and pay money out the yeng yang for them. No a government obligation is to protect its people, not use them for money." "They can protect the people when they have legal grounds to do so. However, such grounds cannot be found in this case since tobacco is the choice of the consumer." Yes, its a person's choice to smoke themselves to death, Nicotine never had anything to do with people doing that now does it. Plus cigarettes laws are not enforce seeing how most smokers which is a common fact that most smokers were below legal age. Also that they were not pressured by friends and other circumstances like second hand smoke addiction. I object this so called link has been refuted since burgers are not specifically made with deadly chemicals that cause cancer which is in fact more deadly than having a meal at Mc D's and possibly obesity is more curable than cancer will ever be. So we are to allow our people to kill themselves for the economy? Heck legalize hard narcotics then you'll make a killing the economy will be booming geez after you think about legalizing all these harmful drugs would benefit the economy ten fold and who cares if a couple thousand or more die from it as long as the economy prospers." "I've already explained the connection between junk food and tobacco. The people are allowed to make decisions for which products they choose to consume – even with disastrous affects since they do so without malicious intent. Until cigarette smoke has been used as a weapon to hurt those around you, there is no legal grounds to criminalize the product." Again i have brought down the connection and shown it for what it really is, also my point about hard narcotics still stands, cigarettes are addictive and kill people everyday. Most smokers at this point wish they could quit but can because they are addictive. I could understand this choice thing if they were not addictive but they are it addiction levels is up there with crack and our blissfully ignorant kids that have been coherced and pressured and have seen a cool advertisment or seen a cool move with a cool character smoking infulences them to at least try it then after that point they can never come back. Addiction cloaked by the word choice, why treat drug addicts anymore it was their choice why not lock them in jail for their "choices".