Negative consequences of religion

You start out by calling me a moron, yet the only thing you know about me is 1 of my opinions which you have clearly misunderstood. I never said religion doesn't bring good things to the world. Yes, religious people do good things because their religion tells them too. But if they didn't have a religion, would they then never do good things? Answer is yes, if they are good people religion doesn't matter. Point is, you don't need religion to do good things, to be a good person. If you think that you have a wrong view of atheist. If you are a good person, you do good things. However, how many people have done bad things because of religion? Look at it this way: both theists and atheist do good things, they cancel each other out. What you are left with are theists doing bad things because of their religion but atheists don't do that, they do bad things if they are bad people. Therefor religion brings us harm, because it is a reason to do bad things and atheism isn't. You call islam an evil religion and that it has brought much harm to the world - haven't christianity done the same? And isn't it mean to talk like that about another religion when you ought to know that there are nice, good muslims too like there are nice, good christians? To say that islam is the one giving religion a bad reputation is just laughable. Please do a little research about the Inquisition, Battle of Belgrad, 15th century Poland, 16th and 17th century Ireland, the Crusades (1095-1291), Heretics, Witches, the 30 years' war, Gaspard de Coligny, try to find out how many Jews were killed by christians, the terror in Vietnam, the Rwanda Massacres and lets not forget that the church supported a catholic by the name Adolf Hitler in our recent history. Look at history. So many people have died in the name of the God in your bible. And in the bible God killed or ordered the death of millions. But the immorality and violence on the bible is for another debate. I would just like you to realise that even thou Islam might seem like the most violent religion at the moment, they are not the most violent in history. By far, the most people who has been killed has been in the name of the God from the Bible. Christians, and religious in general, have shown to be extremely discriminating about minorities. Homosexuals, transsexuals, other races and groups of people (the bible condones slavery), women (the bible condones rape and women rights have been violated when it comes to the discussion about abortion) and atheists etc. Clearly you have some insane ideas of what an atheist is and isn't, and they are all completely untrue. We are being called evil satan worshippers with no morals (the bible is extremely immoral) etc. which again is just not true, it's lies other theists tell you. Is it to hate us? Why do you hate us? We are just people. You seem to have a very low tolerance, but this isn't your world and there has to be room for everyone. And let's not forget that it still does harm today, two examples would be the christian in the US who shot and killed a doctor working at an abortion clinic in the name of God, and the priests who rape young children who doesn't get punished but just moved around to other churches. Then you go on to saying "The only people that help people by acts of charity are Christians. The common atheist does not perform charity simply because they have no beliefs." - now where exactly did that come from? I myself am a volunteer at a cat shelter, I donate blood and I help where I can. You don't need a religion to do good things, that's ridiculous! You do good things because you are a good person, and atheists doesn't need a reason or the fear of hell to be good. There are good theists, good atheists and there are bad theists and bad atheists, but you will never see an atheists do something bad "in the name of God". "Atheists are soulless, emotionally dead people that should be treated with extreme hostility" you call yourself a good person and then you say this? This is just flat out mean, and in no way true! No, I don't believe anyone has a soul, cause I don't believe such thing exists. I think it's a thing someone made up to explain something they couldn't explain. Just like the greeks believed there was a God who had some horses which dragged the sun across the sky cause that was the only explanation they could com up with. There are atheist who do good, who do chairity and who helped. And guess what, when atheist donate to a good cause, all the money goes to the charity. When someone donates to the church, a lot of it never leaves the church. That has been proven, we know it to be true so there is no reason in you denying it. To name a few charity organisations run by atheists: Kiva Lending Team, Atheist Centre of India, Foundation Beyond Belief, EARTHWARD, Inc., Fellowship of Freethought, International Humanist and Ethical Union, Atheists Helping the Homeless, American Humanist Association, Atheist Relief Fund, Secular Center USA, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Atheist Community of Austin etc. Besides that I live in a country where people do a lot of charity work and raise money for good causes, and it's almost never any religious based organisation who does this kind of work. I think I have proven you wrong in that subject now, so please don't offend us with ignorant statement which are just flat out lies. "Only if they knew anything about Christianity, they would realize that claim is simply not true." funny you write that, cause if you knew anything about the people who don't believe in myths you wouldn't have written half the stuff you've written, cause it's simply not true! Not even the horrible things you wrote about islam was true, they are not all terrible, violent people. Christoffer Hitchens was an atheists, but he doesn't represent atheists. He doesn't speak for all of us, he spoke for himself and debated a topic and revealed theism. I don't agree with some of what he says, like I don't agree with some of what Richard Dawkins, Bill Mahler and the people from the atheist community says, cause there is no one to dictate what atheists should think and believe like theists have. You have books or priests or popes, authorities to tell you what to believe. Atheists have 100% freedom to think for themselves and make up their own minds. And we are not evil, that's just an ignorant, narrow-minded statement to make. "Summary: Atheists are a group of bitchy teenagers on the internet that have wet dreams about sucking off Hitchens, they do not contribute to the world." 1. We are not all teenagers and I'm pretty sure there are a lot more teenagers who are theists than atheists. 2. We are not bitchy. Bitchy means malicious or spitefully critical, kinda like how you are in the argument above. 3. I'm pretty sure that we don't all find Hitchens attractive in that way, at least I don't and I have no interest in sucking anyones penis. 4. We actually do contribute a whole lot to the world, if you cared to do a little research. I believe I have already covered it above. 5. To make up all these extremely childish accusations which has not even the least bit of truthfulness to them is rather pathetic and I'm shocked. You generalise atheists and fail to understand that we are not a group of people like e.g. christians. We are just people who don't believe, and besides the fat that we don't believe myths that we have no reason to believe, we are no different than you and to think so shows that you know little about what you are talking about. You haven't represented your religion very well. You have been mean and spiteful and your argument is filled with lies and misconceptions. You challenged me about a subject, but completely misunderstood my easier statement. Your childish accusations are just laughable and I advise you to double check your statement in your next argument and sort out the many untruthful things you say. You give christianity a bad reputation. But to summarise: Christianity has brought so much suffering to the world and so many people have been killed in the name of God. You don't see atheists killing in the name of a God they don't believe in, therefor atheism doesn't bring anything bad to the world - bad people does. Religion gives people a reason to kill, it makes them think their horrible actions are justified. You might do charity work, but you don't need a religion to do good things. And least of all - well can you prove your God? Cause I can prove pretty much everything I believe in, I have a reason to believe them. And even if you had proof and your God really did exist, I still wouldn't respect him or worship him cause he is an awful being - just read the bible! Killing millions, ordering millions to be killed, saying rape and slavery is ok, wiping out every life form on earth? And your bad guy, satan, only killed a few people - because God told him he could! So no, I can't respect that. I can live a perfectly good like being a good person without any belief, religion don't give me anything good. It's an excuse, it's fairytales and yes, many people believe them but that doesn't make it true. It just shows that people can be fooled and brainwashed, it's a mass delusion. I would ask you to clean up your tone and restrain yourself to insult me and calling me a moron in your next argument, thank you.