colin leslie dean work is a new literary genre

all con had to do was give us the name of the genre-in the Western tradition - that categorized deans work- he has not done that all he has said is deans work is "rhyming prose" but that is a description not a category name of a genre so con has not proven his position that colin leslie dean work is not a new literary genre- it may be in a style that has been done before in the Western tradition but dean is the first to recognize it is a new genre ARGUMENT free verse http://www.thefreedictionary.com... "free verse n 1. (Poetry) unrhymed verse http://www.merriam-webster.com... poetry is defined to be 1)a : metrical writing con says" point ONE "Unfortunately names of styles are fairly unoriginal.... It could simply be named "Rhymed free verse" or "Rhymed verse"" point 1 1)free verse is defined to have no rhyme so deans work cant be called "Rhymed free verse" 2)deans work cant be called""Rhymed verse" as verse is defined to be in metre and deans work is not in metre so deans works is different to both free verse and poetry and "Rhymed free verse" "Rhymed verse" point TWO con says quoting wiki "Rhymed prose is a literary form and literary genre, written in unmetrical rhymes. This form has been known in many different cultures. In some cases the rhymed prose is a distinctive, well-defined style of writing. In modern literary traditions the boundaries of poetry are very broad (free verse, prose poetry, etc.), and some works may be described both as prose and poetry. " this quote is from a brood outline of rhyming prose in different cultures ie it says "This form has been known in many different cultures" 1 Arabic culture and influences-called it saj 2 Chinese culture called it Fu 3 Indian culture the wiki article does not tell us what the Indians called rhyming prose so we could take it they did not see it as a genre -much like they did see tragedy as a genre 4 European cultures -Rhymed prose was a characteristic feature of the Divine Office in we dont know if they had a name for it or recognized that it was a genre point 1) we are not interested in what other cultures named or did not name a genre we are talking about our culture ie Western 2) different cultures did not have a genre called history -but from ancient writing what they would be called by us the genre of history namely India had no genre of history or for that matter tragedy yet example of both can be seen in some of their writing ie history the Mahabharta and for tragedy the Sanskrit poems dealing with poverty and miser -see "Sanskrit poetry "H.H.Ingals,256 Many cultures have no word for religion or recognized a difference between the religious and secular yet we would recognize the religious in their belief systems 3) the wiki states only this about or Western approach "In modern literary traditions the boundaries of poetry are very broad (free verse, prose poetry, etc.), and some works may be described both as prose and poetry." all it say is "some works may be described both as prose and poetry" ie it does not give a name for the genre ." prose and poetry" now deans work does not fit this wiki observation as deans work might be prose but it is not poetry -which is metrical writing con says "So, no, Dean was not even the first to point out this particular genre or style." point 1) only if you are talking about other cultures -but we are talking in this debate about our Western culture and in our Western culture as wiki shows there is no named genre for what dean does the names "rhyming prose" just describes what dean is doing but "rhyming prose" is not a genre in the West just like a humorous or satirical imitation of a work describe a style but it does not name a genre -that genre would be call parody . In the East they have a name for the genre which is described as "rhyming prose" ie saj ,fu point THREE con says "It also was and is quite common in children books. For instance Doctor Seuss often wrote in rhymed prose, as you can see in the short children novel Green eggs and ham." point1) maybe but it is not called a genre point FOUR CON SAYS "we see that Dean did not invent this genre"." point1) I DID NOT SAY DEAN INVENTED A NEW GENRE point FIVE con says "This genre is not new in the world of literary works" point1) agreed but it is a genre without a name in the West the writing style was not/is not recognized as a genre only seen as rhyming prose . point SIX con say " "Dean is writing a Rhymed Prose, or a free verse that happens to rhyme." point 1) dean is writing rhymed prose [as others in the western tradition have done] but that has nt been seen as a genre with its own name like parody satire etc point 2) again dean is not writing free verse as by definition free v has no rhyme -but deans work has so in summing up 1)all con has shown is that rhyming prose was used in the Eastern tradition and it was recognized as a distinct genre with its own name given a name to categorize a genre of writing ie Arabic saj Chinese fu 2) con has shown that rhyming prose is used in the Western tradition- BUT HE HAS NOT SHOWN THAT IT WAS RECOGNISED AS A DISTINCT GENRE WITH ITS NAME IE LIKE PARODY 3) all con has said it that deans work "could simply be named "Rhymed free verse" or "Rhymed verse" but as pointed by the definitions of poetry free verse deans rhyming prose cant be called "Rhymed free verse" or "Rhymed verse" so in all with all cons research con has not disproved that deans work is not a new genre to repeat con has shown that rhyming prose is used in the Western tradition- BUT HE HAS NOT SHOWN THAT IT WAS RECOGNISED AS A DISTINCT GENRE WITH ITS NAME IE LIKE PARODY all con had to do was give us the name of the genre-in the Western tradition - that categorized deans work all he has said it that it is "rhyming prose" but that is a description not a category name of a genre