If there is a God, then it is most definately the Christian God.

I shall refute my opponents argument point-by-point. Existence Rebuttal - First, he seems to have a problem with the logical progression of my argument. The assertion that "If there is a God, then it is most definately (sic) the Christian God." is disproven with the logical extension of my argument, "There is no God". By disproving ANY god, I disprove the Christian one by default. I see no problem with following this line of reasoning. He begins with a flawed line of reasoning by using The famous Cosmological argument - Every effect has a cause. The existence of the universe is an effect, which then requires a cause. The very laws of the universe are an effect, which requires a cause. Rebuttal- I agree that every CAUSE has an EFFECT, but to reverse it and assume that the Universe is an effect is an unsound argument. Besides, the universe as a whole is not an ordinary finite 'object', it is what finite objects constitute parts of; this means we have no reason to assume that the same principles apply. This can be said of both contingency of everyday material objects and their obeying of the laws of cause and effect. As Emmanuel Kant pointed out, we have only ever witnessed these properties within the universe. It would be going far beyond what we know to conclude that the universe itself has a cause or is contingent. Same with so called laws of the universe. This argument found its backing in the assumption that God must have created everything for a reason, so cannot be used to argue for God's existence without circularity, unless we can find another reason to accept it besides a gut feeling formed by experience of living inside the universe. A more powerful case against the cosmological argument depends on the difficulty of seeing God as "a necessary being", the cause of Himself. This is a highly problematic notion. Why shouldn't the Universe or the Big Bang itself be considered the first, necessary cause? Since we cannot begin to comprehend the notion of necessity, we have no reason to assume it can belong to God's but not to universes, or even 'bangs.' This effectively neuters the cosmological argument's intuitive force. But even if (and I hope I have shown that this really is a big if) it succeeds completely and shows the existence of some first cause of the universe, outside the universe, it does not in any way show the existence of God. It is surprising the number of people who use it as their proof for God without acknowledging that the first cause could be anything. In no way whatsoever must it be the God of the Bible and traditional religion. The most honest answer to give to the question of why the universe is here is: "I don't know." The truth is, religions have never known, either - merely claimed they do. I still assert that by disproving God, I disprove ANY God. Bible Rebuttal - Astronomy - I disagree, an all-powerful God COULD NOT create the universe out of thin air. See my first argument – out of nothing, comes nothing. Archeology and Geology - Most people know about Jericho in connection with the biblical stories of how the Hebrews conquered Canaan. Under the leadership of Joshua, they marched around the city seven times and God caused the walls to collapse. Unfortunately for believers in biblical literalism, no strata of destruction that would correspond with such an invasion has yet been identified. Crossing the Red Sea - "Curiously, no one can account for the precise whereabouts of that eight-spoked wheel today, though Hassan is on videotape stating his conclusion regarding authenticity. " - same link. At VERY best, a coral formation. This has never been authenticated. The Great Flood- It was impossible based on the Grand Canyon, and DINOSAURS?! You have to be joking. http://www.talkorigins.org... http://www.talkorigins.org... Brain Science – No personality/soul without the brain – no God. Why create a brain if we already have a immaterial soul? Not logical. Medicine – It doesn't, does it? Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. (God commands us.) Prayer is a ritual commonly used to cure disease. Try and pray next time you are sick – let me know how it works for you. Excuse my curtness, just trying to drive the point home. Psychology - On most occasions, God has not poured out wrath upon individuals, but on groups – you say. Only one word necessary-HELL Again the Universe does not require a Christian God, or any God, for that matter. I thank my opponent for his rebuttals, but as you have witnessed, they do not stand up against honest criticism. I look forward to our next round.