The bible is false because jesus is false thus jesus was not the messiah

You see, The person who pretends to be a christian, Is not a christian because there is no such a thing as being a christian because christ was a false prophet. That was more than well proved in RD1. And it will be more than well proved once again with even more damning evidence in R2. Its not that difficult to prove. *yawn* *BORING*. "You said that Jesus was not perfect. . . " Whoa there snookums in a party dress, Where did I say that? I didn't say that. You might want to check that record out and then get it right because as usual those who think they can claim of themselves to be christians, They really have a difficult time in READING. Now go back and reread what was stated, And please for god's sake, Get it right. Thanx. It would be appreciated. Regardless, Jesus in which you cannot even prove has ever existed. . . So let's start from there. K? Or was the false prophet and obviously did not have any special powers. You take your pick. Its one or the other. And here's a multitude of videos to back that up since you blew it in a huge monumental way. I would suggest that you watch them IF you wish to continue with this grandiose gracious grating granulating gnawing macho macho ham debate. . . https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=6lqC8fvIspY - jesus wasn"t jesus (Aron Ra) #1 https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=KXAGpCTiGlQ - The True Core of the jesus Myth (Christopher Hitchens) #2 https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=apS_679ru50 - Did jesus Exist? #3 https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=9AzwJ9d4i1g - Why christianity is Unreasonable (Richard Carrier) #4 https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=x-slAgzJmdU - Why Does Every Intelligent christian disobey jesus? #5 https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=AJMd5UiTeys - Biggest Lie - The fourth gospel #6 ("The first striking revision in the 4th gospel is that the ministry of jesus has ballooned out from from one year to three. The writers not only make a reference not only from one but to three distinct passover festivals. Now was this just a tradition that some early christians held to a three year ministry and others to a one year ministry? Can anyone honestly maintain that whole dialogues could be remembered word for word for many decades and yet believers have no common agreement whether these words were said during one year or during three years? ") Um duh. Do you REALLY THINK jesus existed? https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=lDpEeHD54Mo&t=1397s - The Gospel According to Carrier #7 (Richard Carrier states jesus may have possibly existed, But scrap all the mythology) https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=O5AordEPtok - Proving the Historicity of Jesus? Tracie and David #8 https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=hmKTUOzXRkI&t=188s - Stephanie Thomason vs Matt Dillahunty, Or how not to debate an Atheist! #9 (skip to the 7:00 mark! ) Oh this one is good and Pro is the caller with his furry tongue. https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=NAqEmYJcXX8 - What did jesus do for you? #110 Well wow, Coulda figured that one out that you think you are a christian. Let's prove that one to be 100% false right now and that you do not follow your christ even if you "believe" he were to be true. Now here's what you said. . . "Up in heaven, He is perfect and forgiving our sins. " Let's talk about sin from in which you clearly know absolutely nothing about. Well first, You have to prove that this god of yours exists in which nobody has ever been able to do since the entire existence of the human race. You would have to test, Demonstrate your god, Then once that's done assert your god, And then once that's done declare your god for all the world to believe in - yeah to the scientific communities of the world also in which they would obviously scoff at your supposed proofs because there is no "why" you should believe in a tyrant, Yeah that's what the bishops bible named your god as at least 400 times before it turned into the KJV and then that word of tyrant became king. Sin. . . Now you go right ahead and prove that sin exists in this world because it doesn't. How can it when you cannot prove that the prime motivator god exists? Without a god, There's no sin. Here's another thought. . . This unproven "god" is supposed to be about love, Kindness, Care, Peace, Harmony, Etc etc etc and yet pretty much all of the bible preaches other than faith is its contradictory "sin". Go figure. Yeah, Your supposed unproven god, If he had the intelligence of that above a single celled organism as compared to the big bang, Would ---never--- use text, Namely your bible, Not for any reason, Not ever, The worst form of communication possible. Here's something else. . . Sin is contradictory and hypocritical in your bible. Thus sin does not exist. Taken from 101 contradictions. . . Does every man sin? Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, Because they are the children of God. Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God. . (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, And he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, Then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, And the truth is not in us (I John 1:8) Matt Dillahunty "What is sin and why should I care about it? I understand why I should live an ethical life and treating people in certain ways, We have secular foundations for moral systems. But sin from the christian perspective is a crime against god or god"s nature itself - right? If god makes the rules and you violate it, That"s a sin. Well what if god makes a rule that you should kill your child, Does that make it good? Caller " Yeah that"s where I do things that are not aligned in what the bible says. " Matt "Yeah. But are they good things? Do you have good reasons to have that the things you are doing are not immoral? Like do you have an example? Like don"t confess to a crime or anything. For example, The bible is opposed to homosexuality. Do you think there"s something immoral about those who are homosexuals? " Caller "Uh there"s none that I can think of. " Matt "Yeah me neither. And so if the bible"s opposed to it add the bible is the word of god, And the Koran is opposed to it as well and the Koran is supposed to be the word of god as well, And there are two holy books and let them argue over who god is and what god thinks and until they can come up with a sound secular justification for homosexuality being immoral then I don"t need to pay their views any money because its just an opinion at that point. " "christianity, At least some flavors of it, Would brand me as a sinner because I"m gay. And that would be the same as if I were raping children. And that"s appalling! So yeah, I don"t buy this "we"re all sinners" crap. We"re all human. And we have human responsibilities to each other. " Jenn Peeples Now thankfully I'm an all out atheist so I do not have to worry about this "sinning" crap looming over my shoulders, Not ever. Now what you supposed christians don"t get is why any punishments? If this god is a god, This supposed god could have started out with peace, Harmony, Care, Kindness, Love etc etc etc AND KEPT IT. Nah. This supposed god of YOURS is more concerned with evil, Anger, Wrath, Vengeance, Rage, Fury, Jealousy etc etc etc. Jealousy? What? From a supposed supreme deity? All jealousy is is anger as disguised fear. Yep, Your god is more concerned with those HUMAN baggage emotions that he has freely admitted to in your trustworthy storybook fable bible. Even worse, This supposed god of YOURS neatly passed down those baggage emotions down to man so in turn man could learn to hate with at least 1 billion dead on the battlefields alone all in the supposed good name of YOUR god. Great going god. Great going you for worshiping this travesty for what reasoning exactly? Oh it gets worse, Much worse as there"s not been one instance, Just one, Since YOUR god"s inception, At any time, At any place, For any length of time oh say 30 years or longer, Where there"s been peace. Something to think about. There has been with the Inca, Nearly all of the native American Indian tribes until YOUR christian brethren sweaty greasy white pig man decided to nearly wipe them out, Gaia Mother Earth, The aborigines, The Buddhists, The Hindus etc etc etc they, Do not in any way practice nor preach evil nor hate the way you pretend christians do. Its not even a close call. "Putting these scenes into reality in these situations is just very irrational. " And you think RISING FROM THE GRAVE IS RATIONAL? There's no thinking, Reasoning, Rationalizing, Common sense, The use of logic within christianity because none is required. You have no evidence to prove anything. "I am a Christian myself and I have seen people go against Christianity. " Goodie for you. I've been doing this for 43+ + years almost 44 because I am rational. I can think. I can reason. I can use common sense. I can use logic. You can't. You guess. In order for you to believe in your god YOU MUST use faith. "Faith is the reason people give when they don't have evidence. " Matt Dillahunty and he's right. "God creates miracles that nobody has ever seen. " Well there yah go. You just admitted to your own fatal flaws. I'm intelligent and have an education. You apparently not. "How do you think the bible was made? " Here's a video for you to watch to really put a screw into answering such a dimwitted question like that. https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=FJiNtQW3vHs - Talk Heathen Determine if a Holy Book Is Reliable But then again you cannot even pay attention to your bible as god's laws were perfect as proved in RD1, Thus your christ could not have changed your god's laws so he was FALSE! I'm out of space. We'll prove you don't believe in your christ in the next RD. I dare yah to stick around