Aliens (Etraterrestrials) Exist

"The SETI program has been searching for many years and have never found any sign of communications in outer space." They would need first to have the correct technology to pick up such signals. As they don't know what type of technology aliens use to transmit signals through space, this argument of yours doesn't work; absence of evidence is not evidence of absence except for where you'd expect to find lots of evidence. But really, unless we know what type of technology aliens use, how do we know what sort of signals to scan for? SETI's instruments are designed to pick up only certain types of signals. How do you know there are not other types of transmissions of which we do not yet know? How do you know that aliens would need to even send such transmissions at all? For example, how do you know they do not have telepathic abilities? That's a form of communication we could not scan for. How do you know they do not have teleportation devices that eliminates the need for long-distance transmissions? They might be able to make all necessary communications with their home-world or space-station in person. They might have a far grander understanding of the space-time continum than we do, and ability to manipulate the laws of physics on a grander level. So we can't prove that if aliens existed we'd even expect to find a bunch of transmissions between them in space. What's more, aliens would know that we are listening, and from their studies of human technology, they could probably sent signals that would be impossible for our present technology to pick up; or, signals to similar to unorganized background noise or static that we'd dismiss it; they alone being able to decode it. There are enless possibilities really, so I don't find your argument compelling evidnece against their existence. Who can say what teachnologies a race more advance than our could have? Just look at how much man has accomplished with science in just the last 100 years... Interesting too that you bring up issues of the "soul/spirit" in your rebuttal. Who is to say that the aliens too don't have souls and spirits? They might communicate via astral projection of their spirits through the astral realm. Science SETI has no way to scanning for that form of communication either. "Just because people have sighted things does not prove they exist, they can be explained with hallucinations or other natural explanations." In the first link I attached, Lt. Col. Charles Halt of the US Air Force witnesses a UFO landing in 1980. There were 5 witnesses to the event. The object was tracked on radar that night, so they were not just hallucinating; something was indeed there. Nick Pope, who at the time was working for the UK Ministry of Defense, testifies that the British Defense did find radiation traces as tangile proof that the object did indeed land where witnesses say that they found it. Radar and instruments for detecting radiation do not pick up "hallucinations," and futhermore, a team of millitary personnel found this thing, described it as being a triangular black object, and one of them touched it. They took pictures, etc. So, either these people are lying, or the ship was real. Don't insult my intelligence with this nonsense about they not knowing what they saw. And if they are lying, why would they lie? Why would these men who already have their nice careers embarrass themselves in this way? Why would people all over the world claim to be abducted by aliens if it weren't true? These folks geninely believe the experiences to be real, and medical studies have not proven that all these people are suffering from some kind of illness. Your average, level-headed person doesn't wake up one morning and decide "oh, I think I'll be abducted by aliens today." This is a terrifying experience for most who experience it, and many take years to come to terms with what has happened. Some suffer from post-traumatic stress because of it. Many think they are losin their minds; they don't even want it to be true. Some would prefer they were indeed delusional, for at least then it could be treated! I'm not talkin about people making wild claims just to grab attention; I can sure think of a lot more rational, less embarrassing ways to get noticed. Science has yet to discover a single mental disorder that could be even partially responsible for abdution claims. Either all these people are mad, or they are lying. Tell me, do you think Col. Halt was lying? If so, why? If it were just a few, unintelligent, unrealiable witnesses making the hundreds of UFO visitation claims, we could all laugh it off. But quite often the claims come from more reliable witnesses than perhaps you or I. In the links I gave the testimony of govenors, police, millitary personnel, pilots, and scientists are given. But there are also lawyers, teachers, doctors, judges, presidents, etc, from all over the world, forming a lare among of credible witnesses. Now I do know that there are times people make mistakes, but there are just way too many genuine cases that have been investigated by the government that cannot be explained by any natural means. The Belgian Air Force, for example, counted out all natural phenomena, including human aircrafts, when discussing the Belgian UFO Air Wave. Funny how you should say they could be "natural phenomena," well, I challenge you to tell me what "natural phenomena" it was in the Belgian UFO Air Wave, what it was that Sgt Jim Penniston of the USAF examined on the ground with a millitary crew in 1980, and what it was that was caught "on film" disabling a missle, and which also shut down ten nuclear missles at a test launch in Vandenberg Air Force Base. Interesting, in the last two cases where there was much more evidence gathered, the CIA confescated the evidence and declared everything classified. Now, you tell me, why should a "natural phenomenon" or "hallucination" be CLASSIFIED? I was not aware it was the US government's policy to "classify" hallucinations and natural phenomenon! Hmmm... "For the opponent to win this debate he needs to provide tangible evidence of such beings that we can actually observe and are from credible sources, conspiracy websites will not count." So US millitary officers, British Air Force personnel, Belgian Air Force, and so on, are not "credible sources"? Please define what is a credible sources. I bet they were credible sources until they broke the status quo and started talking about UFO's. Until Con defines what is a credible source I'll leave that for now. But surely he's not going to tell me these guys were not in good mental health at the time and so on, so I'll have to wait and see why he doen't consider them credible. "there may be some physical apparitions of demons in another dimensions not known to ours however but there are not aliens in outer space with a civilization and spacecraft flying around the universe." What a contradiction. He denies aliens exists because science hasn't found them, yet he claims it could be demons which science also has not found. What desperate straws to pull at to win a debate! Demons can't be tracked on radar; and what do demons need a ship for? Is he really saying our current technology can detect demons? Did demons leave radiaton traces? Aliens fit that bill; demons don't. "No other life has been found in outer space" Because its so big and we've only recently took to the stars. "scripture as it says all living Hebrew word denotes with a soul/conciousness came from Eve" Animals didn't come from Eve, yet they have spirit [Heb ruach] (Ecc 3:21), and animals are souls [nehesh]. (Gen 1:20) Also, the Bible isn't a complete record of everything God made "by name." It doesn't mention the dinosaurs, yet they existed. It leaves out plate tektoniks. If it's silent on such earthly matters, why not alien matters? Much more on this later. I look forward to Con's rebuttal.