The trinity is a false teaching

1) God says he is the one and only ************************************************************************************* The fact that three separate things not only CAN be one but very often ARE one clearly negates your argument that 'God describing Himself as One means He cannot also be three.' There is One God who is ALSO a trinity. IF the Bible teaches that God is: (1) The Creator or Father of all. (It does. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis1:1 ) (2) The person of Jesus Christ. (It does. "Thomas answered Him and said 'My Lord and my God!'" John 20:28) (3) The Holy Spirit. (It does. "For the Spirit searches everything even the depths of God.") THEN it stands to reason that God IS three. The fact that the Oneness of God is emphasised only reinforces that these three entities are indeed One God. ************************************************************************************* But since you've done this.. I guess I can refute this point also. ************************************************************************************* Is there ice in the world now? Sure there's some in my freezer right now. Is there water in the world now? Sure there's some in a glass in front of me. Is there steam in the world now? Sure there's some coming off of the kettle. All the water in all of the universe is in one of these three states. It's still ONE body of water. ************************************************************************************* 2) Bible writers would make it clear that they are all one -Christ: any expected deliverer The word christ originated before JESUS Christ was born. It simply means the messenger. God is the messenger of the word to his people, so he was referenced to accordingly. It doesn't say JESUS Christ, just Christ. ************************************************************************************* Christ means 'Anointed by God'. It was not revealed to the writers of the Bible exactly how the Messiah (Greek for Christ or Annointed) would come or Who He would be. This is why the members of the Judaic religion are still waiting for the Messiah to this day. Any 'argument of omission' is invalid simply by virtue of the fact that there is always an infinite amount of omissions in any account or history. ************************************************************************************* 3) No one else in the bible is called the ALMIGHTY ************************************************************************************* Again, IF three things are can be One and ALSO be separate then it follows that they would have both features that are similar (such as H2Os transparency in water, ice and steam) AND features which are distinctive. That God the Father is known as the Almighty and Jesus Christ is not is of no consequence. ************************************************************************************* 4) God couldn't be tempted to join a cause against himself ************************************************************************************* Your argument lends itself to my cause , not your own. It's nonsensical to say 'IF He could have rebelled' IF He did NOT. The fact that He did not sin adds weight to the fact that He is Indeed God Himself. By your own logic He could not join the enemy If He is God.. He did not join the enemy. If He did Have what would have happened? who's knows.. He would no longer have been God. But He did NOT succumb, And He IS. ************************************************************************************* 5) Jesus being God would be counterproductive to his cause ************************************************************************************* Ok, When we Christians state that Jesus Christ 'died for us' What we actually mean is that He died 'Spiritually' for us. This is what He feared in the Garden.. not the naiils or the torture etc BUT Gods wrath which is Spiritual separation from God.. In other words DEATH. This Is why He cried out to God " Why have you forsaken me?" But even here He is quoting Himself or rather the Holy spirit in a Psalm. The Son or Word of God became a Man. What kind of man would He be if He did not need to pray to God etc like the rest of us? You imply confusion where none exists. We Christians are very certain of the Trinity. Nothing makes sense without it. ********************************************************************************** 6) Jesus was created by God -God who transferred the life-force of Jesus to the womb of Mary. (Matthew 1:18-25) But that is not how he began. He himself declared that he had "descended from heaven." (John 3:13) So it was only natural that he would later say to his followers: "What if you should see the Son of man [Jesus] ascend to where he was before?"ï¿½€"John 6:62, NJB. Thus, Jesus had an existence in heaven before coming to the earth. But was it as one of the persons in an almighty, eternal triune Godhead? No, for the Bible plainly states that in his prehuman existence, Jesus was a created spirit being, just as angels were spirit beings created by God. Neither the angels nor Jesus had existed before their creation. Jesus, in his prehuman existence, was "the first-born of all creation." (Colossians 1:15, NJB) He was "the beginning of God's creation." (Revelation 3:14, RS, Catholic edition). "Beginning" [Greek, arï¿½ï¿½khe'] cannot rightly be interpreted to mean that Jesus was the 'beginner' of God's creation. In his Bible writings, John uses various forms of the Greek word arï¿½ï¿½khe' more than 20 times, and these always have the common meaning of "beginning." Yes, Jesus was created by God as the beginning of God's invisible creations. ************************************************************************************* The Bible certainly does NOT teach that Jesus is a created being. In fact many if not most cults believe this doctrinal heresy. Please state WHERE in the Bible it states that Jesus is a created Spirit. You CANNOT because it does NOT. The Colossians quote (in future please state verse as well) references the resurrection of Christ NOT the 'creation' of Christ. In my N.I.V Colossians 15 has three separate headings.. (1) The resurrection of Christ. (2) The resurrection of the dead. and (3) The resurrection of the body. I think this gives a very clear picture as to the theme of Colossians 15. It is both highly dangerous and dishonest to take scripture out of context like this. Let's look at some scriptures that shows Christ as the uncreated God incarnate. John1:1 "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God" John1:14 "The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us." Isaiah9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a child is given and the goverment shall be upon His shoulder, and His name will be wonderful counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." ************************************************************************************* 7) The disciples viewed Jesus as the "one mediator between God and men," not as God himself. (1 Timothy 2:5) ************************************************************************************* God and man are separated by sin. God became a man to mediate that chasm. God did what no man can do. Your whole argument rests on omission: "The Bible does not say this or that." You have only provided one extremely out of context scripture for your claim that Christ is a created being. You must back up your arguments with scripture. You must refute each piece of scripture I have presented which clearly shows Jesus Christ is God. Please address Romans 8:9 Please address John 14:9 Both from round 1. And each of the scriptures presented in round 2. Please provide scriptual evidence that Christ is Created.