The Bible stories, The Tower Of Babel and Noah's Ark are false.

:) Now let's get serious! The past debates you and I have done together were set aside for evolution against creationism. Let me remind everyone else that we are both Christians, and I will give my reasons for belief (RFB! ) in a loving, kind way and you will give yours. This will be on the topic of Christianity and different world views, but of course I will try to stay on topic and it will mostly be a debate about what we argue is false and what actually happened in the Bible. My arguments will bounce off of the rebuttals I think. R1. "The overall story of the Tower of Babel is a faulty one. It is said the people tried to build a tower that would reach into heaven. God didn't want this, so he used the tower to change their languages, so they couldn't build to tower to the heavens. Some people believe that God also changed the people's races. " For each story you call faulty in God's Word I will challenge you to give alternative reasons for why the story was even in the Bible. To me, the Bible is His Story (a history textbook) that holds the secrets and morals of God himself, and we should respect it with reverence. However if we do not know which way to interpret the contents of history, we will have a hard time knowing what to believe. Firstly, I don't believe that the ToB has anything to do with races. Why? Because the Bible doesn't say so. See, I believe races came from Adam and Eve in a form of evolution, but I don't believe in the type of evolution that you believe in CDB. But here's proof that the ToB was real: #1 History The Bible explains the genealogy from creation until about a thousand years later. Noah and the families of Noah's generations were the ones who divided the earth after the Flood, and according to the Bible, at that time all of humankind spoke a single language. The populations spread eastward and a plain was discovered in Shinar (Babylon). The land became populated and the dwellers talked of building a great city with a temple tower reaching the skies (heavens). Because of their pride they said that if they built it, it would stop people from populating around the world and it would "weld them together. " #2 Details They burned hard brick and made huge piles of it, then using bitumen to use as mortar. Isn't that interesting? #3 The Lord's Presence God looked at the city and the magnificent tower, and He said, "Behold, the people is one, #4 The rest of the Bible supports the Genesis account thus the ToB Acts 17:26 says "From one man he created all the nations of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth. " You may ask 'where did Cain get his wife? ' And I might answer that he used her sister, but your counter rebuttal would be saying we'd all be insane by now (lol) [1]. Mutations increase over time due to studies you would probably agree with [2]. You might use Leviticus 18:6 for your side because it says "No-one is to approach close relatives to have sexual relations. " But if we trace back to the time of Leviticus, it was a very long time--2500 years--after the creation of mankind, therefore mutations would've ben plentiful and (what we call) incest marriage actually would be wrong! Point is that in the time of the first humans it was ok to have. .. sex. .. with close relatives. .. #5 Adam and Eve's skin color You've probably heard of couples who have had children with different melanins (skin colors) [3], so you should understand that it was very possible for skin colors to differ among generations after creation. Same type of deal with eye shapes. In fact, Charles Darwin thought that dark skinned people were not as evolved as light skinned people thus "blacks" were closer to the animals! ! Imagine how that led to the slavery, and the overall racism that happens now. [6] #6 If evolution is disproved I can prove ToB Doesn't make much sense at first, but really ties in to this precisely because of the races and languages issue we are arguing. First, a status from an evolutionist says (paraphrase) "human ancestors lived 5000 years ago, but there is one woman whom all humans currently living have related DNA thus we are all related to each other. .. " [5] This seems to prove that all men came from one man (Acts 17:26). The evolutionist used simple mathematics to figure that out, but don't get this mixed up with mitochondrial eve. Mitochondrial Eve is an observable proof that science points towards the Bible, which clearly says that all men/nations descended from one woman! #7 Ziggurat The ToB is an example of a ziggurat. The story of the Tower of Babel at first sounds imponderable to many ears, but not to the informed. In fact this story fits our best knowledge of earth"s earliest civilizations like a well-tailored glove. No longer is it possible for scholars to smugly dismiss these stories as mythological simply because of their unusual nature. the ancients built most of their cities around sacred towers with uncanny similarities to what we find in the Biblical Tower of Babel narrative; these sacred towers are referred to as ziggurats. These massive structures first appear during the Uruk period (3500-3100 BC) in Mesopotamia (literally "the land between two rivers," also referred to as the "Cradle of Civilization," or commonly "land of the Bible"). It is in this land, explicitly, where the earliest events in Genesis take place. From Babylonia to Assyria, most Mesopotamian cities had a centralized tower. See #2 for reasons that ToB was most likely a ziggurat. [7] R2. You say that a "Believer's" view is that the Tower of Babel is true. .. because the Bible says it's true; that a "skeptic" thinks it's a contradiction, etc. I beg to differ, aren't skeptics believers in God still? ? And if you read the above you will see why I don't believe that ToB is real because I read it on pages (though 'God's Word' holds significant pages), I believe it because of the given facts. R3. "Man can't reach God by going higher in the sky. If this story was true, God would have to be oblivious to the fact that it is impossible to reach him. " I don't get what you said lastly. But I will rebut the first part. Many times in the Bible it says the word 'high(er). ' First class people are even now considered "higher" than working class. Psalms says "Lead me to the Rock that is Higher than. .. " and Ephesians talks of the spiritual realms as being up high in the sky. The Heavens themselves can be defined as the place God "lives," or outer space/sky. So, because of their pride and arrogance and in order to be closer to God or MORE LIKE God, the people built a tower that would presumably reach to the heavens. You say: "How come historical evidence goes completely against the Tower of Babel? " If you tell me about it I will then attempt the rebuttal. R4. "My challenge for you is to find me a link that states what two breeds cross bred into all the breeds of dogs and if it would take less than or just exactly 4,359 years. Good luck! I would also like to see, in your logic, how eight people can interbreed into billions of people. " Are we talking about skin colors in that last part? If so, I explained above. For your first sentence: . http://sciencenetlinks.com... It's not bias, it doesn't exactly prove my point, but it shows you what interbreeding does. I don't see what you're trying to prove though. One thing: God created morality dude! !! SOURCES [1] . http://gameofthrones.wikia.com... [2] the video at top . http://www.youtube.com... [3] . http://www.dailymail.co.uk... [4] . http://www.rtgmin.org... [5] . http://science.howstuffworks.com... [6] . http://thetruthwins.com... [7] . http://kata-aletheia.blogspot.com...