Ben Carson is really Stupid

Pro made these points last round: 1. Deadly events in history that have happened after slavery show that Obamacare is not the worst thing since slavery. 2. “I'm not a socialist.” 3. A CNN video shows that Ben Carson said that all gays come from prison. 4. Obama is not a socialist. 5. “Socialist is collective ownership of good and production and distribution are by the PEOPLE. No one else. There is no government.” 6. TPM shows that Ben Carson said that most Americans are stupid. And “you aren't going to be taken seriously if you insult more than half the population.” 7. The fact that Ben Carson believes that the pyramids were grain storages shows that he’s stupid. 8. Ben Carson said that he was pathologically disturbed, which shows that he cannot be cured. 9. Ben Carson has lied multiple times in his book. Deadly events in history that have happened after slavery show that Obamacare is not the worst thing since slavery. Here is the quotation: …Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. And ... it is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care. It was about control. That's why, when this administration took office, it didn't matter that the country was going off the cliff economically. All forces were directed toward getting this legislation passed.[1] The problem with Obamacare is that it puts the government in control of health care. The control of that, according to Carson, is a big problem. He’s also said, “In other words, you've got to get the socialized medicine as the foundation, because it gives you control of the people. Once you get control of the people, you can do what you want.”[2] You can differ with him on this, but does this prove that he’s “really stupid”? “I'm not a socialist.” I said that you were “a member of the Democratic Socialists Party” and referenced your profile to verify: Since your last argument, though, you have changed your party affiliation to the “Democratic Party.” What I do know is that you’re a fan of President Obama, so it’s not a surprise that you would think it’s stupid to say that Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery. But you must prove that Obamacare is so good, so great, that distrusting it makes a person qualify as “really stupid.” A CNN video shows that Ben Carson said that all gays come from prison. I watched the video you gave in its entirety, yet Ben Carson never said in it that all gays—every single one of them—have come from prison. What he did NOT say is, “Homosexuality can only happen in the type of environment that is prison. Anytime you see a homo, rest assured, he came from prison. Every single gay that exists—every single one of them—comes from prison.”What he DID say in the video is that homosexuality is a choice, citing the fact that some who went into prison as heterosexuals came out as homosexuals. If homosexuals are “born that way,” how come there are homosexuals who came from prison that used to be heterosexual? How come they changed after going to prison? (Also note that Ben Carson has apologized for at least some of what he’s said in this interview.[3]) Obama is not a socialist. You still are yet to give a source that has Ben Carson calling Obama a socialist. Even if he has—and that certainly could be true—that doesn’t make him “really stupid.” I logically demonstrated that it actually makes sense to call Obama a socialist; at the very least, it wouldn’t make one stupid to say such. “Socialist is collective ownership of good and production and distribution are by the PEOPLE. No one else. There is no government.” It seems that you are mistaking socialism for anarchy in saying that “There is no government.” As Merriam-Webster said, socialism’s big government, not no government. TPM shows that Ben Carson said that most Americans are stupid. And “you aren't going to be taken seriously if you insult more than half the population.” The source you gave actually proved your claim to be false! This is what Carson said (emphasis by me): Everything was perfect. Except they underestimated the intelligence of the American people. The people are not as stupid as they think they are. Many of them are stupid, okay. But I'm talking about overall. To ignore everything else Ben Carson said and only read the sentence, “Many of them are stupid, okay,” and extrapolate that to mean he said that “more than half the population” are stupid, when he’s saying that overall the people are NOT stupid—either 1) you are deliberately being dishonest or 2) you just didn’t pay attention to the source you gave. If I say, “American citizens aren’t vegetarian. Okay, many are, but I’m talking about overall”—that’s almost the polar opposite of saying, “Most Americans are vegetarian.” The fact that Ben Carson believes that the pyramids were grain storages shows that he’s stupid. It doesn’t have anything to do with politics. If this makes him “really stupid” in politics, then it would make him “really stupid” in medical science also—or any other field of study for that matter. Contrary to that conclusion, however, “With his outstanding academic record, Carson was in demand among the nation's highest-ranking colleges and universities. He graduated at the top of his high school class and enrolled at Yale University.”[4] If his belief on the pyramids really would affect his policies stupidly in any way, such should have been discovered by the media already.Ben Carson said that he was pathologically disturbed, which shows that he cannot be cured. That sounds like what Donald Trump would say. Here’s what Ben Carson had to say about that: “I’m hopeful that maybe his advisors will help him understand the word ‘pathological’ and recognize that does not denote ‘incurable’ — it’s not the same.” Give me one instance since the time he’s stabbed someone that shows he’s this bloodthirsty killer. Ben Carson has lied multiple times in his book. The source you gave talks about his relationship with Mannatech. It says that people have called him a “baldfaced liar.” The article does NOT attempt to prove that he is; rather, it talks about the term baldfaced. And Mannatech, as far as I know, is not written about in his book but is something that happened later. Apparently, some believe that Ben Carson lied: When he was asked about Mannatech, he said, “Well, that’s easy to answer. I didn’t have an involvement with them.” Why do some think he lied? As far as I know, it’s because he did paid speeches for Mannatech. He certainly didn’t lie there, because he made that clear in his answer. Here is an extension of what he said (emphasis in bold): “Well, that’s easy to answer. I didn’t have an involvement with them. That is total propaganda, and this is what happens in our society. Total propaganda. I did a couple of speeches for them, I do speeches for other people. They were paid speeches.”[5] Closing Again, Ben Carson’s written the book on politics—multiple times. In closing, I will let Ambassador C. Boyden Gray do the talking, taking an excerpt of his forward to Ben Carson’s book A More Perfect Union (emphasis by me): As an ambassador, I have expertise in law and diplomacy, and it’s rare to see someone who understands the challenges of government as well as Dr. Carson does. Though he has never held office, Dr. Carson has insight into the causes of our nation’s problems that is keener than that of most elected officials’. He sees how essential a proper understanding of the Constitution is to America’s freedom, and that’s why I’m so excited to see this book. References [1] http://www.newsmax.com... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org... [3] https://www.facebook.com... [4] http://biography.yourdictionary.com... [5] http://www.breitbart.com...