Ironman vs Batman

In this round the con will look to the flaws in Pro's statement and how his assumptions fail to make valid arguments. Let us first look to his opening statement where pro claims " I AM saying that YOU said he had never killed then YOU said he killed contradicting yourself." and a little further down, "Killing and gun use: While I did take a look at the links, you did in fact contradict yourself, of course by accident I am sure buuuut, you still did it." Obviously this seems like a serious issue but the point is null because I did not say that he never killed. For the second time I even stated in my first speech a reference of killing dracula. I challenge the Pro to improve his conduct and also quote me on where this contradiciton was stated. If he is referencing where I said " Finally, that he is not willing to kill. One could propose this however, please enjoy (links pursued). " This was a serial of arguments I placed so the intro "finally" means it is the last point I am refuting and the "that he is not willing to kill" is simply me citing the Pro argument I was going to attack. Looking to the next sentence " one could propose this" .....it is a hypothetical....which I then give sources to prove false. Now onto extreme paranoia, Pro cites the brother eye incident and acts like I am ignorant "you know about that right?". What he fails to mention is that batman found corruption in the justice league and had has memory wiped (then slowly regained) at which point he worked to save the world and did. If anything this is an example of how batman saved earth just like he saved Gotham countless times. Looking at the secret identity argument I placed at the first round. Pro makes the argument the this is Ironman vs Batman and not Tony Stark. That is silly. Iron Man is a persona of Stark and therefore the fact that he revealed his identity is definitely evidence in this debate. Pro can't just choose every fact that should be allowed in this debate, he should accept all claims based in sources and citation just as I do. The rage point still proves silly as no examples have been given where rage was actually a massive detriment or existing as the pro supposes. If anything batman has the most control of self holding to ideas and values where as Ironman flaunts his powers and kills pretty much whoever he wants because he can do it. Now let us address the battlefield scenario. Pro says that we could find the two heroes fighting outside of Gotham but in his captain america example they were in a sewer pipe (like subterranean Gotham). So ultimately the environment still favored Batman and now we need to look to Pros argument on battlefield edge. The battlefield edge goes hand in hand with technology. So pro claims the element of surprise is useless as the Ironman suit can respond and retaliate faster than a human can act. This is blatantly false because Stark controls the suit, and no such automated defense response is sourced or seen elsewhere. So yes, explosive batarangs in the back would still deal damage. Also, the video pro uses can not be allowed in the debate. It is A.from a video game B. is intended to promote players to play both villains and heros, and C. Allows you to choose your own plot line making it Non-Cannon because each player can redefine the marvel/dc universe. TAKE NOTE READERS: To settle this targeting system deal. Pro needs to stop whining and start debating, he gives three sources which are fraudulent. Not one contains mention of thermal or night vision. (I used there search engines....it is not there) SO pro argues that it doesn't matter, the suit can detect heartbeats.I will sight the sonic bat strom for the 5th time most likely. it is a wall of mammals. As in, they all have heart beats and heat signatures blocking any thermal,night, or heartbeat detection. I give you multiple reasons why his detection would fail. Pro just gives you the opinion "why couldn't he?" ......i just stated why. Please provide real reason or evidence of how this would work. As for Emp's and freeze rays my opponent ignored that I called these unfair examples but since he wants to attack them I will defend. The emp would not shut down the suit, but it would fry the electronics that control display and the jarvis uplink (....targeting gone) and as for the freeze ray we see that Iron man would become useless as motors and hydraulics would lock. The freezing issue he fixes is from high altitude not from a high tech device that makes solid blocks in seconds. A. Pro's refutation of batarangs fails because he neglects to address my now three times stated point that it is not the small metal bats but the explosive charges and cryogenic blasts. B. Pro references magnets which I said in round 2 to be an non-admissible weapons but he ignores my actually point B which was tear gas and knock out gas. Still yet to see that filtration system reference. So we must assume it to be effective and thus allowing Batman to win easily. C. Pro missed my point here, the bats make a shield that would blind targeting,sight, lock-ons, and heartbeat detection as well as thermals and night vision. He did address but link to my above text as to how Ironman fails. D. Pro claims a grapling hook to be useless but I disagree, Increases mobility and could make a distraction. G. We need to see that Batmans expert skills on martial arts really would play a role. We can look to Iron Man's comic vine bios and see that ironman weighs a total of around 280ish pounds. Batman has taken down opponents with a much greater size and weight. Furthermore, explosives and long range weapons becomes completely unusable in close range combat. H.Just going to repeat myself , The bat jet ....... Pro stated "While Ironman has had suit damage in the past from TANKS, JETS and Ironmonger," so I would assume what a jet could do is damage the suit just like Pro suggested it has in the past. In conclusion, this round has shown that Pro simply lacks the evidence and defenses necessary to deal with the sundry and multi-functional arsenal of weapons and devices Batman has. Pro has yet to touch on the batarangs, answer the targeting issue, answer the more important debate of knock out gas which would end the fight automatically, and finally the battlefield and battlefield edge. When we look into the arguments for Iron man we see his record flawed with no sources which ultimately shows that this insanely intelligent playboy can make weapons but not anticipate the needs for fighting against all forms of enemies . Final note: Just for fun, on the quote at the bottom I argue having more clever writers in turn leads to the ingenuity of some of the solutions and victories Batman achieves. So corny or not.... at least he doesn't battle a lame asain dragon wizard with no powers.