Being gay is a choice, God did not "make" them that way

Um. Speaking from experience, I don't. There's no chemistry at all with that entire gender. I think that's, in part, your problem. I assumed you could see the parallel between being straight and being gay. That I personally never chose to be attracted to the opposite gender and therefore by inference you should see how gay men can be attracted to men and feel no attraction at all for women. However, I was relying on the assumption that you understand what it is like to *not* be attracted to an entire gender of people and wrongly so. Certainly if you're bisexual there's an obvious component of choice. You could choose to have relationships with men or choose to have relationships with women and thusly it would seem very much to be a choice. I assure you, the remainder of the population doesn't make this choice and moreover can't. And you should be careful to assume that everybody else is just like you. We aren't. In your note about the test, it would have been good to post a link or a reference. I am aware of the tests performed at that age and they aren't gender attraction of sexual preference they are actual attraction. They put kids in a room and see if they look at the pretty women or pretty man for longer. The notation that it has nothing to do with sexual preference is absolutely correct, and it shouldn't! It's not a test of sexual preference. It is a test of which face kids look at. Of course there's no relationship between that test and actual gender attraction, because that test doesn't test for that. And, even if it did... saying such a change occurs wouldn't say that it's a chosen change any more than the growth height-wise in that time period is a choice. Your analogy of people preferring sweets but eating vegetables and fruits is impossibly deluded. People prefer sweets because in an evolutionary adaptation humans have a TAS1 gene which allows for the taste of sweetness and prefer it because in a more natural state that gene made people eat fruit and fruit is good for people. It has nothing to do with gender attraction at all. I don't mind that I've turned your argument around by noting that deference to mythological figures has nothing to do with gender attraction. And I certainly am not a "stubborn close-minded fool" for believing that gays do not currently have the same rights. Ask a homosexual. There are a number of patently unequal and abhorrent cases, adoption rights, marriage rights, armed forces rights, and clear and gross discrimination in a swath of different areas. I wasn't saying that such unequality is good, or that I'm in favor of it. I am clearly opposed to it, but you would need to be living under a rock to believe it doesn't exist. I believe you misapprehend my point on that matter. I certainly believe they *should* have the same rights, but they certainly are not *having* those rights respected. Let me again emphasize the points I've made, which you've never refuted, although you've given considerable insight into why you think the way you do about the subject. fMRI tests show that gender attraction occurs prior to conscious reaction and occurs differently in homosexual than in heterosexuals. Nature observations have uncovered a good amount of homosexuality among animals from deer, penguins, bonobos, dogs, lizards etc. Such animals are not making some kind of choice. I have noted that I did not choose to be straight. If gender attraction is a choice, I should have made this choice at some point. I did not. Men just don't do it for me. If one looks this is exactly the same argument made by homosexuals with genders reversed. I have no reason to doubt their sincerity. Finally, the second half of the topic is that "God did not make them that way" which is to say, in order to prove your point, you should need to provide evidence for a creator God who created man in such a which would not include homosexuals. As such, the existence of homosexuals who did not choose to be gay undermines any chance at making that argument which you notably did not even attempt. To say that your God hates gays and make everybody including gays and therefore didn't make gays, is perhaps a good argument that you're simply confused and God doesn't hate gays (through non-existence or not being a jerk). Thank you for your time and your opinions.