christianity or islam

Well, I can't see that you really addressed my point that the Bible is reliably preserved through extensive manuscript evidence, so all of those verses you quote from the Quran are clearly written much later than either the Old or New Testament. You claim they are corrupted, but have yet to show evidence that the Quran is correct in its version of what occurred and the Bible is not. There are over 30,000 New Testament manuscripts and 100,000 Dead Sea Scroll fragments, as well as many other manuscripts, showing that the Bible has been reliably preserved through writing as it repeatedly claims. What evidence does the Quran have if examined by the same standard?Was Jesus God? Jesus, the Angel of the LordThe essence of your argument appears that "Jesus never claimed to be God." You then quote the Bible even though you believe it was corrupted (which again contradicts the wealth of manuscript evidence showing otherwise). However, I contend Jesus did claim to be the Son of God, and the Angel of the Lord who was worshiped as God by the Israelites when leading them out of Egypt. Jesus was the God of the Israelites who spoke with Moses.John 8:56-58 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.It is a common misconception that God the Father spoke to Abraham, Ishmael, Jacob, Moses, and Joshua, and was the one who was called God. Actually it was Jesus, called in the Old Testament the "Angel of the Lord." Key ScripturesGenesis 22:11-12 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.Genesis 31:11-13 And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I. And he said, Lift up now thine eyes, and see, all the rams which leap upon the cattle are ringstraked, speckled, and grisled: for I have seen all that Laban doeth unto thee. I am the God of Bethel, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred. Genesis 16:10-13 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. And she called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me?Exodus 3:2-6 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.Judges 2:1 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.Other examples where the Angel of the Lord is called God include Genesis 32:28-30; Judges 6:22; 13:21-22; and Zechariah 12:8. Jesus Claimed to be GodJesus claimed to have existed at the time of Abraham, and that "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." Jesus then continued "Before Abraham was, I am." That's a direct reference to the following verses, making crystal clear that Jesus was claiming to be the original God of the Jewish people. "I AM THAT I AM" or "The Self-Existent" was the personal name of God to the Jewish people. Abraham rejoiced and worshiped God, who Jesus claimed to be.Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.Genesis 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.Jesus Claimed to Exist With God the Father Before the WorldJesus as seen in John 17:4-5 claimed He had finished the work God the Father had sent Him to do on earth, and was ready to be glorified with God the Father with the glory which they'd had together before the world existed. Jesus in vv. 1-2 claimed God the Father had given Him "power over all flesh" and to "give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him." John 17:1-5 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.Old Testament Prophesied ThisHowever, this is not a New Testament invention. Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah to come would be called "The Mighty God" and "The Everlasting Father." The Bible elsewhere attests to the deity of God's Son in Proverbs 8:22-31 and Psalms 2. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Jesus revealed the deity of the coming Messiah as a riddle to the Pharisees by pointing out that if the Messiah was to be a normal human being, then David should not call his future descendant "Lord."Matthew 22:42-45 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?Other PointsConcerning why 2 Kings 19 and Isaiah 37 are identical, it may be that Isaiah's was the original account and preserved later in 2 Kings. This practice is actually followed throughout the Bible, the book of Chronicles for example repeats some of the Genesis genealogies. Parts of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles parallel one another as well. You have to realize that Judges, Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles did not cover a single time period, but multiple kingdoms spanning the reigns of Saul, David, Absalom, Solomon, Joab, etc. In other words, there were later scribes researching older documents and putting information from those together as a composite whole to record the nation's history. Isaiah's chapter 37 was likely one of the sources they used.Jesus did not just say to believe for salvation, He also said we must repent and change our ways to do what is right. (Luke 13:2-5) Jesus forgave the adulteress, but also told her to go and sin no more. (John 8:11) Saving faith should produce works as evidence, see Ephesians 2:8-10. I wish I could address this more but am out of space.