There Is No Proof of God

Preservation Here are my follow-up points1. Is the entirety of the Qur'an preserved in the manuscript?2. You said "Can I proof that there is a Gospel of Jesus? No, you have to ask the Christians. I've been wondering where that gospel is as well. The Qur'an says so and that's enough.". The Qur'an saying something may be enough for you, but it isn't in a debate when you're attempting to prove the Qur'an (and as a result God). If you can't show evidence that a Gospel given to Jesus existed, no one reading this debate has a good reason to believe that the Qur'an's claim that it did exist is true. If you want to show that the Bible changed, you need to point out what it used to say and how that is different from the current Bible, which is impossible with the Gospel that Islam claims existed. Also, I don't understand why you said "you have to ask the Christians", when Christians claim that the Islamic version of the Gospel never existed.3. I asked you why Allah would protect the Qur'an from corruption but not the Gospel, and why he would protect Muhammad and the Muslims with him but not the early Christians who followed what you claim is the straight path. Your response to this was "In regards to 5:67, it's obvious that this is directed towards Muhammad SAW. The verse starts of with "Oh messenger". The messenger fought many battles and won them, even though he was extremely outnumbered.". How does this address anything I said about the verse? You told me what the verse said and gave examples where you say it was fulfilled. This does not answer my question about why Allah wouldn't protect the true Christians, and you didn't even address why he didn't protect the Gospel. 4. You said "Why would Allah allow people to worship the sun and the moon? The same logic can be applied here, Allah sends prophets and through these prophets people receive the message. No prophet before Muhammad SAW claimed or mentioned that they are the last prophet.Jesus his disciples never believed that Jesus himself was crucified (Christians claim the opposite), so it's not the fault of the prophet. If Allah wanted he could make everyone Muslim, but he doesn't"This really doesn't make any sense. Even if Jesus' disciples never believed that Jesus was crucified, this has nothing to do with the Qur'an claiming that Allah let everyone else believe that he did, by making the guy being crucified look exactly like Jesus and taking the real Jesus to Heaven when they weren't with with (What else would they have believed?), so you didn't answer my question properly. Why would Allah trick people about Jesus' crucifixion? And why would God decide to send certain people astray (Sura 35:8)? Note that the verse says Allah does it. What part of that is compassionate?5. You answered my question of "Can you prove the memorization prior to it being written didn't even fall slightly victim to error?" with "The recitations go back to the time of Muhammad SAW if we stand in prayer and the Imam recites something then the people behind him need to correct him if his recitation is wrong. When someone recites Qur'an the wrong way, we need to correct him.".What about after Muhammad's death, and before the Qur'an was compiled? Correcting an Imam when you have the Qur'an in your hands is different from Muslims from soon after Muhammad's death disagreeing about the verses without an official Qur'an (and they did have disagreements: https://wikiislam.net...). To update what I said to fit your response, I could say "I don't see the logic in using preservation to prove it's true, if you need to assume it's true to believe that it was perfectly preserved (that God let the correct recital be put in the book)Linguistic MiracleYou missed my point. I know people tried to pass the challenge. My point is that if you already believe that nothing can compare to even one chapter of the Qur'an, you will dismiss any attempt to match it as a failure. And secondly, who is even the judge of the challenge? It would be up to each individual to decide if it matches it or not. Whether or not someone thinks something matches the linguistic level of one chapter of the Qur'an is subject to bias, overlooking details, misinterpretations, etc. It's using a subjective measure to weigh an objective challenge. Pleasing a Muslim is impossible with this challenge, because a Muslim already believes that it's impossible to pass, and if a Muslim ends up thinking someone did matched a chapter and leaves Islam after studying in depth both the chapter in the Qur'an and the chapter presented to challenge it, what would make him more wrong than you if you believed that the Qur'an wasn't matched after the same in depth research? I can't really debunk all of your claims about the amount of times certain words appear because I don't understand Arabic, so you'll need someone else to debate that (and even if you're right about the appearances of these, I made the point that claiming it proves it was God-given doesn't match the rest of the evidence. I.e., everything you could infer to be correct about the Qur'an would be negated if I can prove just one thing to be illogical or wrong, if you claim the Qur'an is preserved and perfect. Which it's up to the reader to decide if I have).--------------------------------------I don't really have any time right now so hopefully we can debate the topic of Science in the future