Abortion is wrong.

>>My opponent says "There is no God". ...therefore showing that he does in fact believe there is a God. If one were to compose examples of twisted logic, this would be Exhibit A. Whether I believe in God is besides the point. Even if I did, the argument would stand on it's merits. Your only argument is based on religious convictions. If your religion is false religion your arguments crumble. I am declaring in no uncertain terms that your religion is false religion. Without shoring up the foundation of your argument, you lose. >>He then says "Murder is wrong and abortion is murder, but if your father was a rapist then murdering you is perfectly acceptable?" >>Right there, he openly admitted that murder is wrong and abortion is murder. When he used that phrase, he did not quote nor reference the phrase from my argument, therefore showing his opinion on the matter, which right there taking away the whole base of his argument. I was MOCKING you! You somehow oppose abortion because it's murder but think it's okay in the case of rape. One may only assume that you support the murdering of innocent people who's parent was a rapist. There's no other way to jigger that opinion. Your believes must clearly be fickle if you want to murder people because of who their parents are. However, you establish below that you allow for a rape exception because in that case it isn't okay to punish women for getting pregnant. In the end, your position is shallow, misogynistic, and immoral. You wish to cast aside medical decisions made by somebody about their body because of silly mythology. There are issues and problems and shades of gray. However, nothing you propose actually should permit us to make the leap you are asking. You say that women are slutty and should be punished with carrying children to term. They need consequences. I think that treating children like a consequence or a punishment is beyond the pale. Moreover, your argument doesn't follow. We should punish women with children (except for those who were raped because that's not their fault for being slutty) because after a few months you can kind of make out a head and a tail within the two inch long growth. Humans reason and work to their own ends, entertain and love, and at that level they simply don't do that. Oh, and by the way, I've asked biologists when life first starts, they say 3 billion years ago. There's no dead stage in conception. The sperm and the ovum are both alive and living cells and nothing about combining genetic material makes something dead. It's alive from before conception, during conception, and after. It's exactly as alive as those skin cells I scratched off when I scratched my arm just now. We aren't discussing laws, we are discussing whether abortion is wrong and you've given no good arguments on that front as of yet. Some 20% of the population opposes all abortions on all grounds. Trying to make an argument from that statistic is simply invoking the fallacy of numbers. US Laws and majority (even those which are really striking minorities) are not arguments that something is wrong. --- The argument I am advancing is simple, so lets make sure it's put out there in a simple way. It is absolutely wrong to force women to undergo unnecessary risks because you're a misogynist or because of unsubstantiated religious claims. It is the right of every person to make medical choices about their bodies.