Abortion=murder!!!

Honestly, your entire argument makes me laugh. You may think you are "enlightened" and know what you are talking about, but you appear ignorant and foolish. I will now once again prove that abortion is not murder, thus if I prove this point, I shall win the vote. Murder is the taking of the life of another human being through the initiation of physical force. Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not a human being -- it is a potential human being, i.e. it is part of the woman. The concept murder only applies to the initiation of physical force used to destroy an actual human being, i.e., such as when "pro-life" terrorists bomb abortion clinics. There is no scientific reason to characterize a raisin-size lump of cells as a human being. Biologically speaking, such an embryo is far more primitive than a fish or a bird. Anatomically, its brain has yet to develop, so in terms of its capacity for consciousness, it doesn't bear the remotest similarity to a human being. This growth of cells has the potential to become a human being--if preserved, fed, nurtured, and brought to term by the woman that it depends on--but it is not actually a human being. Analogously, seeds can become mature plants--but that hardly makes a pile of acorns equal to a forest. You can't call an egg a chicken before it's even got the chicken form yet. Now I shall answer your main contentions: "And a fetus is a person. After 18 days its heart starts beating. Most women don't even know their pregnant then. And you say their not a human because their not fully developed, well is a toddler a human? its not fully developed. what about an 18 year old? can you kill them? no. but their body isn't fully developed. and also I guess its okay to kill anyone under 40 because that's when your brain gets fully developed. Is that what your saying? because it's not a "person" you can kill it, because its not completely developed, because it's not aware of itself? You said that the baby is just a fetus, not human, if the heart starts beating after just 18 days it is alive. Not a living fetus, A living human being. Also, if when the baby is born it cant talk or think for itself and you kill it, its murder. but if its inside the mothers womb its not considered as killing?" first, I shall define a person: person-a human being, whether man, woman, or child; a self-conscious or rational being http://dictionary.reference.com... You say a fetus is a person. Clearly by definition, it is not. A fetus is not a man, woman, or child. It is also not a self-conscious or rational being. Because murder is the killing of another person, abortion is not murder, for it does not involve killing a person. You then proceed to say that just because a fetus is not fully developed, it does not mean that it is not human because 18 year olds and even 40 year olds are not fully developed. You are once again mistaken. Like I just proved, your development clause is irrelevant. A fetus is not a person or human being because it does not fill the requirements, so it is not murder. "By 11 weeks old he or she breathes, swallows, digests, sleeps, dreams, wakes, tastes, hears, and feels PAIN. Babies born prematurely can survive outside of the womb as young as 20-25 weeks." This argument once again does not stand. Ants can breathe, swallow, digest, sleep, dream, wake, taste, hear, and feel pain. But if you "kill" an ant, it is not considered murder. This applies to abortion. Just because a fetus possesses qualities of life does not mean it is a human being. Dogs possess qualities of life, but it is not considered murder when you kill them, for they are not humans. Plants possess qualities of life, but are not humans or people. A fetus may have qualities of life, but that does not make it a human person. I have proven my point and counteracted my opponent's contentions. I await your rebuttals.