Jesus was a false Messiah!

First, regarding the point about being called "Immanuel. " That is not the same thing as being called "Immanuel" in your own lifetime. It's only by the annonymous writers of the Gospels, written LONG after Jesus died, that he's called "Immanuel" and that is just to make it appear that Jesus fullfilled Isaiah's prophecy. By the way, Isaiah wasn't referring to some Messiah in the long distant future, but a Jewish warrior who would defeat the Assyrians. They were long gone by the time Jesus was born. As with most of your so-called "Prophecies" of Jesus in the OT, you are merely taking things out of the original context. Oh, for proof just read . http://www.biblegateway.com... 8. You'll see that is the fullfillment of that prophecy. Sorry. Jesus is the anglicized version of the name Yehosha (Joshuah), which does NOT mean the same thing as "Immanuel. " In Hebrew, it means "YHWH is salvation. " Immanuel means God is with us. Let us go back to the original Hebrew. Call קָרָא (According to Strong's) means to call out, recite, read, cry out proclaim; to summon, invite, call for and commission; to call oneself; to be named. Name שֵׁם (According to Strong's) A litteral name; reputation, fame or glory; memorial, monument. So we could say that the prophecy says, "Behold, a virgin shall concieve and bare a son and shall proclaim his name immanuel. Oh, and Strong's just backs me up on the mistranslation. Virgin is this עַלְמָה A young woman, of marriagable age, maid or newly marriedSecondly, as to the "virgin birth" prophecy. Nowhere in Judaism is there expressed a belief that a woman can give birth without having had sexual intercourse. All that Isaiah was saying was that a young woman would give birth to the Jewish warrior who would defeat the Assyrians. The myth that Mary was still a virgin when she was pregnant with Jesus is an overlaying of other myths, in which demi-gods were born out of sexual union between a god and a woman. These were common in Greek mythology, and the authors of the Gospels in which Mary is said to have been a virgin, Matthew and Luke, composed them in Greek. They were clearly aware of other Greek myths. The virgin birth is impossible. Even if it was, the offspring would be a girl--not a boy. Simple biology can prove it! Besides, what religion in those days did not have a miraculous story of a virgin birth? Answer: NONE! They were copied from other sources and other religions. As for the rebuilding of the Temple and other accomplishments expected by the Messiah: if it were clear that these things actually happened, there would be very few Jews around. No Jew reads the Old Testament and then the New Testament and believes that Jesus fulfilled the Messianic prophecies. You can only say Jesus did if, as your debate opponent said, you take the prophecies as metaphorical. But It's hard to imagine that God would deliberately make it that difficult for people to understand; if he's God and wrote the Bible, I would expect him to leave no doubt in anybody's minds as to whether Jesus was the Messiah, just as he was mind-numbingly specific and clear in the Torah about the hundreds of laws Jews have to follow. Unless he likes fooling some people, or likes to make it useless for us to have powers of reason, in which case I don't think he's God. But the simple answer is that God didn't have anything to do with the writing of either the Old or New Testament, and that Christians want to read into both books so they can feel less frightened of their mortality. Let's go through the Bible and see how many temples there were.1) Solomon's Temple--destroyed and rebuilt by 2) Zerubbabel (Eventually became known as "Herod's temple"You say, the temple has been spiritually built in us. However, the prophecy is clearly describing a physical temple. B-D was NOT fulfilled on the day of pentecost. There are also numerous contradictions in the gospels about the death and ressurection of Jesus. if you need more room, you may use a blog or an out side source as long as YOU wrote it if you need more room Please include in your debate prophecies and stuff to prove Jesus was the Messiah. I'm interested in seeing why you think he was the Messiah!