Goku vs Naruto

Contention 1: realistic outcome of all out war Goku faster than speed of light? Lol First off, just to be a nitt picker, you got your speed of lightning wrong or something. According to google, lightning travels at around 224,000 miles per hour. Light on the other hand travels at 670,616,629 miles per hour. This means that the speed of lightning is just 0.00034% of the speed of light. However according to you, since goku has 20,000x his original power level, his speed increased by that much as well. We then know that his speed would be (.00034x10,000=3.4-----3.4x2=6.8) 6.8x the speed of light. However you make a few logical fallacies here. First off, you assume that just because his over-all power increases, that his speed increases by that same amount. Power is not synonymous with speed. In math mathematical terms, you assume a linear relationship between power and speed when in fact that has not been proven. Secondly, you haven’t specified what the ‘originial power’ is. Furthermore, when was is? At what point was his original power set? This is important. Lastly, if evaluated on the real world it is simply impossible to go faster than the speed of light, as that would pretty much break the F-ing universe. SO in sum here are my main points, all of which are take outs to this argument: 1.) The relationship between power and speed is not linear and hasn’t been proven so 2.) You haven’t specidied what exactly the ‘original power level’ is 3.) It is impossible to go the speed of light Next if we look at your evidence, all you have is here say. Because of the principle of debating in general, you MUST provide the piece manga or the anime where it says goku went faster than light. Secondly I have preemptively researched this and found that this occurs in the dubbed version only and most people conclude that it is simply an overstatement to exaggerate how fast he was going. I request further citation that goku is faster than light, especially if pro is assuming that goku was faster than light as a mere child? Surely they would talk about it later on when he is even more powerful? Here is my reaserch on the topic, it comes from a forum but Ehh, what are ya gona do, we’re debating anime here, not ever source can be from Harvard law lol: “OK, in the english Dub version of DBZ, Piccolo says "He must be faster than the speed of light"... But in the Manga Piccolo says "no one... Can move so fast" And the FTL line just isn't even in the Japanese version of the anime.” -http://www.animevice.com... Contention 2: F it, lets just call this ‘genjutsu and friends’ section A.) Uh-oh, this is about to get really fun….So I think this is your best argument but I can counter it. You are right, Genjutsu works just like the blood stream in the body except of course it carries chalkra instead of blood. Now there are convincing argument for the opposition and I want to skip the Bull ish and dive right in so I will be making a few arguments here, I’m going to lay it out like a conversation so its easier to read. 1.) “Genjustsu is when a ninja takes control of a ninja’s chalkra system, thereby affecting their cerebral cortex and thus their 5 senses”….Goku doesn’t have a chalkra system and therefore genjutsu won’t work on him. 2.) This later goes on to say that any mamal can be effected by genjutsu suggesting that every mamal has chalkra.. it says even dogs can be ‘genjtsued’. And any animal with a cerebral cortex can be affected. 3.) According to the Naruto series the 6 paths (a person) was the first to have chalkra after his mother “Kaguya osutsuki” birthed him” thus, because goku is not the son of her, he doesn’t have chalkra and can’t be effected, he was born on another planet. 4.) This is only the manga world, however the fairness of the match dictates that we don’t solely judge the debate on specifics like this. In order for fairness to prevail we need to make sure as many characters can use their moves as possible. This restricts abuses and let’s characters use their moves to the fullest. IMPORTANT PART: if we look to what chalkra and ki really are we can see that they originate from nearly the same thing. Going into full section/explanation: If we look at what chalkra and ki really are, they are practically the same thing. Chalkra is an inner energy and so is ki. When you look up where these came from you see that Chalkra came from india in the form of Buddhism into Japan. While ki (qi) comes from “traditional Chinese” culture and religion. Remember that China, Japan and India border each other so the spread of religion and similar ideas make sense. So fundamentally Chalkra and Ki are the same thing and the details of the anime do not matter. See these wiki links for details: QI: http://en.wikipedia.org... Chalkra: http://en.wikipedia.org... Ametarusa LOL, wait what? When did raikage dodge the ametarusa? He got his arm burned clean off lol. Revival Sharingan Being that this sharingan technique brings you back from the dead I think its pretty significant lol. Take the 11+ amazing sharingan uses I have under my belt and then give them all 1 extra life haha. Contention 5: sexy jutsu Let’s face it guys. Goku is a man. He is a manly man, and he need’s pu##y. All men do. We desire pu##y. God dictates that once you bite into the tempting apple you can’t come back haha, so I’m just gona contend that goku will sh^t himself and fly back to non-existent saiyan planet LOL. Good game so far, this is way more fun than I thought it would be haha, looking forward to next round. Good debate man.