Be it Resolved That Abortion Should Be Banned

"Are you now stating that morals are now so twisted that murder can be considered "moral" to certain persons and not to others? Do we live in such a world where murder can be justified as "moral" just because the person to be murdered was a "bother" to you? And what if the said person is innocent. This person has not even been born for crying out loud! So yes, I don't care who you are, murder is evil. I don't care if you find it evil, it is still murder. It is the end of another persons life." The clichï¿½ redundant arguments… I am stating that everyone has different morals. In Texas murder can be justified under the castle law doctrine. Mr. Horn found someone to be a bother, and told the operator that he was going to kill the suspects. Mr. Horn was justified in the killing despite being told to stand down multiple times. For others U.S. soldiers who kill as their job, that is classified as murder. One persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist. Everyone has different standards. For the world some places murder is commonly justifiable irrationally or rationally. Somalia the cot chewing child soldiers. Liberia. Iraq post Hussein… on and on around to developed nations. The baby being aborted is not Satan, but who has the right to someone elses body? That would be slavery. So in my example of the individual without the silver spoon in the mouth who has an abortion for their safety, should be classified as a murderer, and be charged as one. Despite even if a law was in place. Abortion is going to happen, it will be unsafe. So by locking away all women who have had an abortion, that would be most likely negative in contemporary modern day society. http://www.youtube.com... 3:33 Joe Horn first video. "Oh, so now you're stating that all 42 million children that die each year would've become criminals? Really? What happened to all those children before abortion existed?" No I did not state that the 42 million children aborted would be criminals. I stated in the U.S. a lot of the abortions that occur are in places that the people have been drained of their livihood= scary places, where the child could live with the pidgeons where murder inc was born and not be a boxer, but an abandoned child to suffer and die. Having a child is a huge responsibility. "In 2008, 84.3% of all abortions were performed on unmarried women (CDC)." "Women between the ages of 20-24 obtained 33% of all abortions in 2008; women between 25-29 obtained 24% (CDC)." "In 2008, adolescents under 15 years obtained .05% of all abortions, but had the highest abortion ratio, 821 abortions for every 1,000 live births (CDC)." 47% of women who have abortions had at least one previous abortion (AGI). "Black women are more than 4.8 times more likely than non-Hispanic white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.7 times as likely (AGI)." "In 1972 (the year before abortion was federally legalized), a total of 24 women died from causes known to be associated with legal abortions, and 39 died as a result of known illegal abortions (CDC)." http://www.abort73.com... I did not state 42 million children would be criminals. But many people who have had abortion, are not sociopaths out to spread the blood of the innocent, but do not have a silver spoon in their mouth. If I was to have child and could become impreganated. I would put the child for adoption. But I have the luxury to type on a computer, and know what that is. Now that is U.S. statistics. "Women in certain countries, who have a child are putting themselves at risk. These countries are developing or underdeveloped countries." "Nearly half of all abortions worldwide are unsafe, and nearly all unsafe abortions (98%) occur in developing countries. In the developing world, 56% of all abortions are unsafe, compared with just 6% in the developed world." "In 2008, more than 97% of abortions in Africa were unsafe. Southern Africa is the subregion with the lowest proportion of unsafe abortions (58%) [1]. Close to 90% of women in the subregion live in South Africa, where abortion was liberalized in 1997" http://www.guttmacher.org... Well personally I am not going to go to Africa as a honky and tell some lady who is suffering who is riskier her life to have an abortion for her better chance of survival that she is a mass murderer. So A. I did not state that they would be criminals, or presidents. "Okay, thanks. I get it. While we're at it, why don't we throw the ideas of Doctor Suess in here? Because for all we know, we could live on a speck of dust. Yeah, we could. It still doesn't matter whether we exist or whether this Earth is purgatory or not. Murder is still murder whether you are on Jupiter, Mars or this so called Purgatory Earth." Thanks for the compliment for doctor suess. At work I am called Kevin Querry by some older generations, so being called Suess, is complimenting. Well that is just food for thought in my opening regarding what is existent and what is non existent. Murder is not murder for some folks. Murder is murder for some folks. Murder is when a soldier kills the enemy. Murder is when a person kills a baby. Murder is when an ant is killed. Murder is when I choose to be euthanized. What is murder as the common definition, that pushs the literary definition a bit harder for people? People are not robots, or maybe they are, who knows? How can I know anything? How can anyone know anything? That is the road I think I am on. Freakonomics highly controversial thesis= the crime rate dropped due to women having abortions" "Oh, really? Okay. So now take the approximately 520,000 murders we have annually. Now, take the 42,000,000 murders we also have annually due to abortions. The people who preform these abortions (such as the "doctors") are in fact responsible for murder as well. And it gets worse. It's the murder of innocents. I don't care about stealing, murder is the ultimate crime. It's the removal of someone's life." Why is the murder happening so much? In Africa why is a women going to risk her life to have an abortion when she most likely will die? The audience can deliberate that. The freaknomics thesis is again highly controversial, I personally do not agree with it 100 percent, but I just brought it into the debate for the audience, to take their stance. The women who is having an abortion in a developed contry such as the U.S. is not being sadistic. Not spreading the blood of the innocent. To compare the Nazis who rationalized the murder of inferiors due to increased rationality as C Wright Mills would argue, is a bit extreme. A war criminal "I was just doing my job". The U.S. dropping a bomb on Japan, was that justifiable? Perhaps justifiable as the Nazis justified the death of inferiors. The doctor is doing a job as well, but the mother who goes to the doctor who is the patient is not just like "hey I want to kill babies for fun, this is great". It is not impersonal for the mother. If I was doctor who performed the abortion, call me a war criminal, but take a look at the micro level of the mother, before you rationally kill me. I do not think the doctors are a group of sociopaths, but the audience can judge, as humans do. Is it a crime to lock Brenda up if she would have an abortion, to seek the best road for her life." "It's murder of innocents. I don't care if Brenda had a life ahead of her. She could put the child up for adoption if she needs to! And anyways, there are plenty of women out there having test-tube babies because they can't have their own while Brenda just killed off hers. A round of applause for Brenda, ladies and gentlemen, for being a selfish person who can't seem to see the fact that the child was human and that so many people want children and can't have them." Brenda does not know her name. Does she know how to spell adoption like me then? If I got pregnant, I would be outcasted from my household due to my mothers Catholicness, and my own judgemnet if I aborted the child. But I have the luxury of the word adoption. I can see you do to. It is nice. http://www.youtube.com... Does Mr. Shakur paint a picture of a sociopath mother? I do not agree with Mr. Shakur on how he decided to take the name of Machiavelli from the 1500's for all his ideals that stem, but I agree with the video for a humanistic U.S. stance on abortion. "Adoption is ALWAYS an option. I don't care if you're giving the child to your neighbor or to the state, adoption is better than murder." No Adoption is not always an option for every single woman on planet earth that is a fallacy to state over and over and over and over and over. Adoption for many is better than abortion, for many people. Clichï¿½= abortion debates, important, but the same arguments are made over and over and over and over for pro and con. Hopefully I did not present a clichï¿½ point of view for the audience or my opponent for the con side. Call me Zeuss if you want. Pro did not resolve that abortion should be banned, but presented a fallacy that all women have this option of adoption. Vote Con. Thanks for the debate.