LM Classic: mongeese vs. Yraelz

My opponent's case has a few fatal flaws. Starting here: 1. Yu-gi-oh cards. There are seven problems: a. First, my opponent is quite wrong on the point about Millennium items requiring prior knowledge. For instance normal Bakura has no ability to use the Millennium Ring to summon monsters. It is only Dark Bakura, having been in the ring for thousands of years, that possesses this power. Additionally it took Yugi years to figure out how to use the Millennium Puzzle. The idea that the Millennium Scale was usable by Bakura doesn't prove Millennium items are instantly usable. In fact the scale auto weighs the heart of the user. It doesn't require the user to do anything. In comparison, the Millennium Ring must be actively used. b. Second, hahaha, read the text of the card that Dark Bakura uses via the Millennium Puzzle. http://yugioh.wikia.com... The reason that this card had effect on the guards when Dark Bakura used it was because the card specifically targets the player and not duel monsters. The two gaurds were real people (players) and not cards (duel monsters). This causes a problem for my opponent when we start reading the other cards: Brain Control: http://yugioh.wikia.com... Change of Heart: http://yugioh.wikia.com... Enemy Controller: http://yugioh.wikia.com... Swords of Revealing Light: http://yugioh.wikia.com... Spell Binding Circle: http://yugioh.wikia.com... Collected Power: http://yugioh.wikia.com... (Side note, collected power only equips monsters with face up magic cards. Meaning it would neither grab Sephiroth's Materia nor would it grab Sentry vial. Those aren't magic cards. They are physical substances.) Dust Tornado: http://yugioh.wikia.com... (Doesn't work on Materia as they are a part of Sephiroth and not a magic card.) You'll notice all of these cards have one thing in common. They presume to effect a players "monster" or "duel monsters" in some way. Unfortunately my team my team isn't made up of five duel monsters. It's made up of five player characters on the same level as yugi himself. Which means these attacks are worthless on my characters. This is why Dark Bakura had to use a magic card that affected other players, not monsters. c. Bakura had to be able to see the guards in able to use a card against them. Otherwise he would have been able to do it from around the corner before they ever saw him. This would also have meant that he could have throughout the entire series attained anything he wanted by using cards on people while sitting in a dark house. My opponents right this is the only example, but as the only example it's the only knowledge we have of how cards work. Thus even if the judges aren't buying my arguments you're still believing them via the example. d. Next my opponent never addressed my point about how people like Sentry and Sephiroth are far more powerful than any of the duel cards. We're pitting people who have attempted to destroy worlds against little magical monsters and spells that affect a few other cards. My arguments was that the duel cards would have no affect on Sephiroth or Sentry because their is a power gap. If you're going to believe my opponents arguments about how dropped arguments are true then you're believing this. e. Fifth, reflect beats back all of the magic inherent in Yugi's deck. Since Sephiroth far quicker than Yugi he can simply cast reflect on the party and thereby any sort of magically propertied attack or status change will be reflected back on the original attacker. Reflect: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com... f. Next, Seto Kaiba can't use cards in this duel period. Only one person has the Millennium Necklace. That person isn't Kaiba. Disregard all strategies with him. g. finally, Yugi takes forever to use the heart of the cards to top deck cards. Meaning the order my opponent offers has possible upwards of 30 second pauses between each draw. I think I'm giving pretty compelling reasons as to why my opponents card strategy is never going to work out. Thus at this point you can easily vote for me. Without the cards my opponent has nothing. Yet, I think that even if my opponent's cards did work I'd still be winning this debate. 2. Speed Blitz. a. Sentry doesn't have a Serum. The wiki article says that he was injected with a Serum and that made him Sentry. I only agreed that he had a Serum in my last debate to illustrate a point because I realized I didn't need Sentry anyways. Thus, in reality, Sentry has no Serum. b. Sephiroth can travel faster than light period as the source points out. It does not just include super nova. Additionally it doesn't take Sephiroth a while at the beginning. It simply starts the video a ways before he starts to use the attack; while it is still Cloud + Companies turn. c. Next, I don't need to specify minutes for Sentry. Even if he takes 59 minutes he's still moving just 4x slower than the speed of light. Since he knows exactly where Yugi is he'll still make it there a long time before Yugi can even start to draw a card. Additionally he can do this using a Parabolic Arc in which he can continue accelerating. But even if I conceded he had to slow down to 1/10th of his top speed to navigate he'd still be traveling 1/40th the speed of light which would put him on top of Yugi before Yugi could draw a card. I'd also argue that Yugi will be stunned for quite awhile by being blinded. d. Sentry doesn't need the precision nor his sight to be able to find Yugi. He knows exactly where Yugi is by hearing his first heart beat. e. Finally, even if you, as a judge, think that Yugi might be able to get a card out before Sentry reaches him it will still be for naught. Yugi can't see Sentry because Sentry can bend light around himself. This means that Yugi would have to make an attack against something completely invisible to him. My opponent argues that Yugi does this all the time when attacking face down cards, however, facedown cards can be seen by Yugi (they show up on the battle field) and he knows that they are there. In the situation with Sentry, Yugi literally has no idea that Sentry is there. This means Yugi get's destroyed and the rest of team Pro with him. 3. Mind Control a. The point that Millennium items can only be used after being won through a duel still stands. Bakura never "uses" the Millennium ring. On the contrary the ring uses him and corrupts him into Dark Bakura. This means that the puzzle never helped Joey and he broke free on his own accord. b. This also means that all of my characters, especially people like Emma have the ability to break through the Millennium rod's mind control. c. Finally, any mind control, being magical based would not work on my team as they have reflect enabled. Ultimately this means that the best chance of any mind control happening is through Emma mind controlling Yu-gi-oh. (Side note: Yugi and Atem are separate people. Atem, having the ability to possess Yugi's body, doesn't make him Yugi by any means. This point falls.) Black Alice: a. I argued that she has the ability to steal all magical powers from any Magical Base. This means that she can steal any cards powers, and since she can steal multiple powers she can steal all cards. b. Alice's ability isn't limited to her sight. As my source states she has the ability to steal Alan Scotts powers while he was in space and she was on earth. Thus she can steal every monster and cards abilities. c. This ultimately means my opponents cards have no power, meanwhile all the power they would have is being employed by Alice. Kirby: a. His powers in the Anime don't let him eat bosses. End of story. Bahamut: a. Has destroyed cities. Dragon Master Knight has no comparable feat.