My 100th Debate: Assuming that the Earth is overpopulated, Mars should be colonized until 2200

O1 In parameters, PRO didn’t not specify 30 sources per round only stated 30 sources, I assumed for total debate. The Comment on 30 per rd was after my R3 was posted. No reply from PRO to an earlier PM on the matter nor requested the 4* sources of R2. All sources are in debate, no need for another location. Too much has been made on 4 sources. To sway voters over such as a means to win, diminishes the debate itself. If Con wishes to contest sources in R5 he can, if I too can also contest his. 02 If PRO wishes to disregard the clarity given in Comments for 1 ill edited sentence in R3 A7 he can. I will stand on the strength of my arguments. DEFENSE 1: Overpopulation“why these obstacles are worse.” Dangers of deep space that don’t occur on Earth; cosmic radiation,heavy ions and energetic protons. ISS is within Earth’s magnetic field & Van Allen Belts limiting radiation exposure; not so in deep space. Results: cancer, stokes, cognitive impairments, Alzheimer’s cardiovascular, and musculoskeletal. Some people are more susceptible than others with no way of determining who would be more/less affected. These dangers are worse. Do you run toward a hungry lion? http://tinyurl.com..., http://tinyurl.com...Other ills listed below click="document.location='/Peepette/photos/album/5906/41819/'" src="../../../photos/albums/1/6/5906/314901-5906-53bez-a.jpg" alt="" /> http://tinyurl.com... What’s the difference between Mars & Earth? On Earth there’s no space radiation beating down on brittle bones, while trying to pass a kidney stone, half blind due to sight loss; while in a space suit digging for deuterium under a repressive corporate regime. O2 is low, get back to the pod (size of a trailer which you’ll be spending the rest of your life) click="document.location='/Peepette/photos/album/5906/41789/'" src="../../../photos/albums/1/6/5906/314901-5906-47yef-a.jpg" alt="" /> “Con's source was about the Earth is not overpopulated” The source was to affirm % of uninhabited area on Earth, not to contest overpopulation. “We need to overcome other things to go to Canada” Not gravity, air & water! Northern regions of Canada & Siberia have trees to the south-building materials, Sahara sand, component of cement. All materials are on Earth; no costly multiple 34.8M mile supply runs. “We need to bring lot's of food ..there isn't much food and animals living in Canada, Antartica, or Saharan.” Arctic animals: caribou. lemmings, musk oxen, foxes, wolves, walruses, seals, and fish http://tinyurl.com.... Growing food in the Arctic Circle is occurring now http://tinyurl.com... and desalination in dessert regions for drinking & crops http://tinyurl.com.... No fresh foods on Mars until crops are grown. Colonists are eating MREs for 7mo of travel + the 1st yr. And there’s a problem with Martian soil. ”Martian soil is laced with chemicals called perchlorates, which would have to be chemically removed for plants to grow there” Paul Sokoloff, botanist http://tinyurl.com.... Perchlorates are poisonous to humans http://tinyurl.com.... 2: Cost “Con says that colonizing Mars will be very costly”.Between $48-121B.Sorry for the bad link assoc. in R3 http://tinyurl.com.... Also, estimates by industry sources during presentation for increase in NASA’s budget to Congress, stated that cost could be $200-400B http://tinyurl.com.... “This source says that it is 6 billion”The Mars One cit. that doesn’t include multiple supply trips that are $250M ea. or R&D costs? http://tinyurl.com... and who’s budget and technical feasibility has been deemed laughable. They admit to not being an aerospace Co. & want to support their endeavor with reality TV dollars; to date no sponsor. Their science is left to sub-contractors, no statement on who they are http://tinyurl.com..., http://tinyurl.com.... Advancing as an amateur astronaut candidate is based on donations, purchases of merchandise, as well as turning over 75% of interview fees, not by suitability criteria for space http://tinyurl.com.... Nowhere on their site does it state selected astronauts will receive a salary. A lead supporter Gerard ’t Hooft, a Nobel laureate, states their time line is unrealistic & will cost billions more http://tinyurl.com.... Any ref. to Mars One’s is null; they’re fools. " Con says that the money would be better spent on Earth” Being over populated means that space is needed. Governments will be strained to provide essentials; food, water, safety and housing. Land & water to raise crops for animal feed will become secondary to human crops & housing http://tinyurl.com.... With competition for resources crime will rise; public protection cost rise http://tinyurl.com.... Job creation will be of great importance along with infrastructure building & service delivery chains, as well as development of renewable energies, fossil fuels depletion is inevitable http://tinyurl.com.... All costs a lot of money. Using laughable Mars One figures, the cost to send 4 people to Mars is $2.5B per person. Such expenditures for the benefit of a few as a solution for overpopulation is immoral. Financial resources for job growth in building & technology toward inhabiting our current uninhabitable areas will be priority. 3: CriteriaMars One’s credibility nulled. NASA’s criteria: highly educated, PhD preferred, visual acuity, BP under 140/90, pass extensive physical and psyc screenings & pass an extensive training course http://tinyurl.com.... 18 yr olds don’t have advanced degrees. Space X’s uses former Space Shuttle Astronauts http://tinyurl.com....To build, maintain & live off Mars requires specialized science knowledge http://tinyurl.com.... Tax dollars will not be used to colonize a few mere civilians. Even knowledge based explorations are doubtful with fiscal overpopulation constraints. This will certainly be a private tourist venture. At present a space tourist ticket to ISS is $20M & $30M p.p., the moon $100 & 200M; a trip to Mars?http://tinyurl.com.... A 20 yr. old uneducated Bangladeshi would not have the tech know how or $. Due to harsh environment & lack of comforts, the rich will not be colonist, only tourist. If one does not have the skill to be technically productive or contributory they won’t be allowed to go. Liberty has nothing to do with meeting requirements. 4: Contamination Micro organisms Humans carry trillions of micro organisms that number in the thousand in variety that could escape & pollute Mars http://tinyurl.com.... Scientist believe there’s a high probability of microbial life on Mars due to the existence of water, underground hydrothermal systems, gases & minerals, along with the planet’s circadian rhythms http://tinyurl.com..., http://tinyurl.com.... These Marian microbes could be pathogenic to humans & together with human microbes a horizontal gene transfer can occur. Any introduction of human microbes to Mars’ environment could be adaptive & produce a biohazard http://tinyurl.com.... My opponent asserts that all problems can be solved in 180 yrs. You propsoe we're colonizing through 2200? An issue can arise at anytime during this span reducing problem resolution time. We haven’t found cures for asthma, cancer, diabetes, Hepatitis, Ebola and dozens of others diseases. You expect in 180 yrs we can address alien extremophiles?The 1st antibiotic was developed just 75 yrs ago. Also, my opponent has not provided data that any precursor medical development of any kind has begun that will address problems of space ills, a mere assertion. Human waste Humans have microbes living on their body while alive & dead. Fecal matter is just as microbial; pollution. 5: Self-contained environment “Con says that there are some bacteria that grow in low gravity places which can be harmful to people. Con says that they can work on this with complex machines in Earth, but no evidence to say if it can work on space”T here are issues with equipment on Mars, the biggest is the electro static & corrosive dust; it’s pervasive especially during dust storms. Its electro static nature can short circuits; robots could freeze in place http://tinyurl.com.... Machines need to be tested for the specific environment in which they’ll operate. One environment is NOT the same as another. Would U use a toaster underwater? Counter rebutted. 6: The Body “My opponent says that there can be health effects to the body after a 7 month trip from Mars, some people will arrive in illness.”I have addressed this, also in R3 “A1 Things humans can do”. Long term astronauts have suffered these effects, that’s how science became aware of them! To throw a yet undeveloped pill at them is a lame solution (#16 on chart above). “My opponent says that colonization entails reproduction, and there was not study that we can have babies at space. Well, why can't we?” A source was provided #6, R2 Here it is againhttp://tinyurl.com... .“Aerospace Medicine Institute and, Department of Obstetric & Gynecology”is not a blog. Due to long gestation of higher order mammals no reproductive studies in space have been done with such. Would you have Bonobos or Chimpanzees kept at ISS for more than 2yrs for copulation, pregnancy, birth through the 1st yr to study development? The cited analysis above mentions studies on mice that mated in space & produced no offspring even though ovulation and fertilization was confirmed. Experiments with female Macaca mulatta’s (primate) and female rhesus monkeys exposed to proton irradiation had a 48% mortality rate and increased incidence of endometriosis. It don’t look good for human reproduction. I apologize for the source issue on 40,000 people for healthy colony (it is a biology thing) http://tinyurl.com.... Please re-read the math presented on #s of people and craft, you clearly misunderstood. “There will be lot's of spaceships in the world anyways, so we don't need to build as much” Mere assertion, with no basis in fact. Again taking into account the Space shuttle program cost $200B http://tinyurl.com... new ships will be slow in build.