Nothing is ever completely beneficial.

I forgot to mention that my opponent did not follow the rules established. The rule established was that they would use the first round as their opening statements, and that in the last round they wrote nothing but "thanks for the debate". Because he did not follow the rules established, I urge voters to keep in mind the 7 point deduction al established.REBUTTALS "But not all people want to survive. If survival was such a set-in-stone issue, then suicide wouldn't exist. Sure, from an evolutionary perspective, yes, but people can want to end their life. People can have no regard for anything and nihilism is something people conform to. Suicides happen, some people go out of their ways to save others simply because the value of life is subjective. The value of anything is subjective. So for someone who does not worry about death, for a value to be placed on death, the desperation of survival is subjective. So death can happen, that can still not hinder anything depending on who you are." All people want to survive. It is human instinct. The urge for suicide is more of a failure in the brain. It is usually dealt from depression, or mental issues. Though they think they no longer want to live, they're instincts want them to. So death according to a human is bad. Now let's go with your "subjective" comments even though they are irrelevant. Even if such were true, someone else might think the situation is wrong. Since they see there is a bad side, there is one according to their opinion. Since there is one according to them, there is one in the end. Since there will always be 1 person thinking something is wrong, everything has bad sides, if we were to use subjectivity as our main model, making your argument invalid."Again, I don't find this logical, and I see where you are coming from but it depends on how much you look at in the first place. So if I absolutely love a particular object, I get full benefit from it." You possibly get full benefit, however someone else may get negative things from it. Perhaps they will experience jealousy, which people don't like. Because of such, the situation would not give full benefit, considering there is a bad side to it." The colour, texture, its uses how it affects others, as long as I do not value life then what it can do to me or others doesn't matter, it doesn't hinder the fact that what I receive particularly from that object is benefit. " Every human instinct values life however, as I have proved. "We can go deeper and say I am only looking at the colour, which I enjoy. The colour brings to me nothing but benefit. Maybe the actual device could kill me, and even if I do have an evolutionary fear of death, the colour of that object brings me nothing but benefit. " But it brings someone else bad sides, making the colour not completely beneficial, since there are bad sides."Your whole argument has been what I have disproved. If he does not care for life whatsoever, which happens to people, then the ignorance is not of any importance. Viewing in closer, from the actual doing of the work he is getting nothing but benefit." He does care for his life, as I have mentioned. At certain moments, he may go through depression, and want to end his life, but during that moment he has plenty if doubts. The reason? Because human instincts seek survival, and life. All people want life according to their instincts. And his work can give someone else negativity. For example, if someone couldn't make it into the same university because his work was too good, and didn't leave a space open for another student, it gave that uneducated student a bad side. Since a bad side was created, that boy doing his work does not completely benefit everyone, or anything."If death was objectively wrong as I said before, suicides would not exist. Death is not evolutionary beneficial, but neither is sexual monogamy. And all values of things are subjective, so is the value of death, so is anything which follows on. And things cannot objectively have benefit, but they can to someone or something, which is where the issue lies. Thank you. " Death is objectively wrong, and suicides are only the subject mind trying to force himself into thinking life is useless. However because of human instinct, he is incapable of truly believing such. Deep inside, he is aware death is wrong, as I have already proved. Not everything is subjective, saying that is subjective. Everything can always have bad sides. If you are completely happy, and you get full benefit, someone may be jealous, and hating himself for being jealous, creating a bad side. Everything has bad sides, even though they may not effect the main person in the situation, it may effect other people around negatively, making nothing possibly being able to be completely beneficial.Your welcome. Please voters remember the obliged 7 point deduction.