Opposition's rebuttals to the Proposition's rebuttals

We didn't get the first paragraph. Sorry. The only thing we got from it is "when doctors don't have the right to make a choice in the first place...". Well, just in the previous point you told yourselves: "However, the reality is that making the final decision on whether or not the patient will be able to survive and how much the “blame” is to be placed on is fundamentally made by the doctors. It is a burden that they cannot simply be dismissed from." Please, be consistent with your speeches. Otherwise, it is hard to understand. Yeah, we agree we are talking lives here. However, on the side of the government we are weighting this thing up to achieve the best result, while the opposition simply is shouting about how much they value lives. Look at this data. [[http://www.ustransplant.org/csr/current/fastfacts/datatour.aspx]] It shows that there is a great mismatch between the number of livers available and the number of patients in need. It also shows that more than 2,000 people die every year while in the waiting list. On the side of the proposition we believe that these 2,000 people should be alcoholics, since they are the ones to blame for their disease, while non-alcoholics that were unlucky to get the disease should get their livers first. It will be more efficient (even in the doubtful case of 85% versus 90%) and fair at the same time. Once again about alcoholism causing liver disease. Come on. We gave you references. Here you are once again. It is clearly written there "Alcohol was the highest cause for a liver transplant with 652 transplants (following a standard six months abstinence period)." [[http://www.britishlivertrust.org.uk/home/the-liver/liver-transplantation/a-history-of-liver-transplantation-and-current-statistics.aspx]] And here all the mechanisms are explained. [[http://www.liverfoundation.org/education/info/alcohol/]] However, when we asked to give references on effects of cigarettes or fatty food on the liver disease, we got none. It is because the causation there is much weaker. Please, when you claim anything scientific, which couldn't be described by simple logics, make references. Otherwise, such quotes about alcohol causing the liver disease as "nor is it a much more detrimental factor than other factors", don't sound really valid. And finally, about the mistakes made over time and one mistake versus thousands of them. Your favorite California medical center for liver transplantation already analyses the psyche of their patients to make sure that they don't relapse. We clearly described the mechanics how we see such a decision-making process. In the case of Hepatitis because of one sexual act when one decision was made, and in the case of alcoholism when plenty of decisions to drink and not to stop were made. Yes, we see the fault of the patient higher in the second case. You didn't provide any substantial refutation, except of saying that we will be "considering the socio-economic background and the past psyche of the patients before deciding on whether they would allow doctors to perform liver transplants". Yes, we could to that. Under you sweet counter-plan it is already done. I would suggest you reading what is written in your counter-plan before proposing it.