Socialism represents Democratic ideals more effectively than Capitalism.

My opponent has raised some pertinent issues that I'm glad I have the opportunity to clarify. In this second round, I intend to answer my opponent's major round two rebuttals, and summarize my case. I'll do exactly the same in round three. Pro's first rebuttal: China, Russia etc is an unfair comparison My opponent defined socialism as being "the economic policy of nationalizing all aspects of production and business, and the social policy of providing equal government-funded care to all citizens under the government." This is pertinent because, under this definition, China and Russia both qualify as socialist. Their form of government is irrelevant to the comparison, as we're talking about social policy. The persecution of minorities is a social policy. It happened in, as I called them, neo-socialist countries. It does not happen as often in more capitalist countries. Therefore the comparison is valid. I talk more about why government policy is completely valid below. Pro's second rebuttal: Capitalism is not a political system (political argument out of context) I have four responses. One, history shows that political systems and economic systems go hand in hand, economic systems do not arise without politics to back them. Two, my opponent has run political arguments himself. Three, I've already shown in the last round that capitalism is a pre-requisite of democracy. My opponent did attempt to rebut that and I've answered him below. Four, you brought up several political arguments yourself, for instance the under-representation of minorities. Thus it's absolutely within the context of the debate to talk politics. Pro's third rebuttal: Being the "mechanisms behind government" gives political bargaining power Two responses. First, within a socialist system, you are working for the government, meaning that you feel as disconnected from the government as most plebs do from their bosses and their decisions. They are no more the mechanism behind the government than in capitalism, but capitalism gives them added bargaining power based on their productivity. Second, being a mechanism doesn't give you power at all in a democracy. People who work for state owned enterprises have no additional political bargaining power compared to the rest of us, because the rest of us have the same incentive to produce. Pro's fourth rebuttal: NZ's policies Policy #1: CAP ON CAMPAIGN SPENDING IS SOCIALIST? This means, under your definition, that it nationalised production or nationalized business or provided government funded care. I'd like to know which of these things my opponent thinks a cap on campaign spending does. Policy #2: HOW DOES OVER-REPRESENTING MINORITIES WORK IN NZ? As wiki says (http://en.wikipedia.org...), all the New Zealand governments since the introduction of our present voting system have been minority governments. Famously in 1996 (http://en.wikipedia.org...), a single minority party was the "kingmaker" in government and dictated much of our policy. Bigger parties cannot govern without larger parties, so smaller parties have a greater proportion of the power relative to the number of votes they get. Minority groups form minority parties. Thus minority groups are over-represented. Get the mechanism? Pro's last rebuttal: Socialism does not distribute wealth arbitrarily Socialism arbitrarily tells people their income, as I defined in the first round and you accepted. It takes no account for production. Making a payment without regard for anything is an arbitrary payment. Therefore socialism distributes wealth arbitrarily. So, in this round I have essentially proven the validity of all of the arguments which I made in the last round. My opponent did not directly attack the majority of my rebuttals from last round so I guess my opponent is focusing on my arguments rather than his. I made three arguments: that equity is democracy, that capitalism and democracy have a proven track record of working together, and that capitalism is better for democratic politics. Taken together, these three points have one inescapable conclusion: that capitalism is more democratic. Because my opponent has not given us strong analysis as to why this is not the case, his argument fails. Thank you, I anxiously await the final round.