High School should be terminated and replaced with an alternative.

Question raised by him i will address "My opponeonts proposal would support an area that is terrible for jobs and Americans don't care about." Could you clarify? Response: Liberal arts is what i was talking about there for clarification. What i mean is if collage is for an investment rather then enlightment and Liberal arts is a poor investment as demostrated on my first link. So why concentrate in that area? 1.; 2. If you look at alot of the high paying jobs concentrateing on liberal arts isn't a great idea http://money.usnews.com... 3. I asked you how would you manifest the market for this? Not many Americans are seeking an art degree partly because of the fact that collage is as an investment. In fact the only reason why teens like msyelf will go is to have a better job then Mcdonalds not becuase we want to go. When i go to collage i will be looking for great job oppurtunuties not enlightment. I can get enlightment from the bible that i read every day or from a book on liberal arts topics like Philosophy or history or the civil rights movement or something. THe only liberal arts programs that are worth it is political science and philosophy and that's only if you go to law school or even business. People who major in Philosophy tend to get into the best law schools and business schools, and well political scince helps alot with learning law itself and of course law school. Another statement As for the rest of the response, I don't think this is a problem unique to my system. They won't even need to know Math if they choose to major in English. Response: You say Math isn't needed if you major in English. I am sure me and the viewers will need statistics for such a huge claim. You don't show why we need to focus on liberal arts let alone English anyway. Why focus on anything really? Why not keep the collage system how it is? If they are willing to take risk with Liberal arts let them make that sort of risky investment. But most students don't want to focus on Liberal arts (besides political science) so how will your alternative even be accepted by educaters if they make more money off other areas of study since more people major in that? But all in all you have to prove English majors don't need Math to go into engineering or accounting or other math related fields becuase that's an insane claim. Next yes I know highschools teach precalc and such, which is what i mean by forcing students to be self learned. By eliminatng highschool and having students focus on Liberal arts they will not have this oppurtunutiy. I am not aware of any interships that allow you to learn such math related activities which is why my suggestion that your plan will lead to students being forced to learn certian math subjects on their own is correct. Lastly since there is a preponderance of students going into other fields over liberal arts why again would educaters focus on an area where there is no market base? Thus highschool is more needed since highschool prepares kids for the investable fields rather then the non investable liberal arts fields. I then suggest an alternative solution to internships replacing highschool and this is his response... The problem with simply lowering the age for internships is that a student does not have time to be a full time student, try to maintain a part time job, possibly play an oh-so-beloved-sport, AND have an internship! Response: First of all just because you don't love sports or you don't hit the gym doesn't make it not an important activity. The "oh-so-beloved-sport, and how easily you were willing to get rid of it kind of shows your not an active dude, and the fact you are willing to focus on an area that doesn't offer my job oppurtunuties and others don't want shows again selfishness. You must look at this from a utilitarian point of view or if it benifits the majority. Since the majority of people don't want liberal arts and at least watch sports if they don't play it doesn't make any sense to upset the majority. But moving on the the main argument I have a easy solution to your claim that you can't focus on an internship and highschool. Simply give up something. Look i admit i am lucky to not have to work a job and i choose to do it during the summer because i am bored since my Dad makes 6 figures, but still most people in highschool don't need to work a part time job. Sure it helps the family out but hey if an internship focuses on your future job and its intrinsic for what you want to do put that before anything else. You can make time in highschool you just have to give up other things you are doing. Either give up the sport or give up the other job. IN conclusion i don't see why your plan is uniqe at all, it seems like you are overllsuggestiong we simply eliminate highschool for internships that can be done during highschool if we lower age requirements or even during collage. Also just think about presenting an idea to eliminate 4 years of school for internships and imagagine the reaction the market would get. THis plan doesn't have solvency and thus i win this debate. It will never work becuase there is no market or no one is looking for it, it hurts the majority which need highschool and need other areas besides liberal arts, and educaters would not implement this at all. In regards to your statement about sports and arts: You have stated a problem with American culture that does need to be fixed- our disinterest with the arts. I believe an education incorporating the arts will help foster more interest. As for colleges finding athletes, here is how that would work: Response: I didn't paste the whole argument but you viewers can read it in his last argument. He simply states he "believes" incorporating the arts will foster more interest. The problem with this is this is purley anecdotal information, it's not reliable and based off what you believe. You are claiming you can convince America to be interested in Plato and Pablo Piccaso but you don't show how. ALso yo don't show why the arts is a good investment. Since collage is an investment art needs to be a bette investment then other areas to actully foster even a little interest. Art also needs to be more entertaining to the public then sports for people to embrace the arts more then sports. Because you haven't shown me any infromation or statistics leading towards this happenining me and the viewers can conclude this plan will fail. Core= If you eliminate the core required classes students have to take without your plan, they will have more time for internships. The only reason students have to take a certian number of classes is to graduate in time and fit in the core classes. Without core students can take less classes per semester and focus more on internships. Lastly he states he is not proposing to implement this plan on a national scale just some schools.... since this wasn't specified until round 4 or in his rules and his plan suggestion extremes such as replacing highschool he's either sugesting this becuase he concedes to the fact the market isn't ready or this plan is still poorly structured . Next your resolution didn't specifiy this would simply be an option in like 3 schools or soemthing. You didn't specificy this in rules either that thi is simply an option a few schools might choose or soemthing. If i knew that i wouldn't have debated this and you didn't clearly show this was your thing until round 4 thus the debate that this is a national plan must be continued. It's not fair for me at all becuase you never mentioned this until round 4 or made it clear this was a small baby plan that barley anyone would know about or care about. Education systems that are small don't impact anyone. And he assumes when i state visual I mean ipads, sure that can be included as well but visual learning is diagrams and equations demostrated on the board and teaching as it is done now basicually.