Ultimate Team War - Gateway Planet 2

Now, to finish it. .. 1. Hit 'em fast and hard Bowser already ate the Mushroom. The effect is permanent. Now, if using Vacuum prevents Bowser from executing a retaliatory punch, he could use a Retry Clock to start everything over again (conceded point), so that he actually could punch Charizard at the beginning. My opponent constantly calls Bowser slow and clumsy, but prevents no evidence from the Mario & Luigi series. Note that Bowser is actually taller, slimmer, and faster in the Mario & Luigi series than in most other Mario games, being able to pull off a full-powered retaliatory punch in an instant. Bowser has been shown to have very powerful legs in the games. By planting his legs, he would easily resist any knockback. My opponent claims that Sakura could throw Bowser out of the arena. However, for a character to be eliminated in such a way, that character would have to be launched at 11.2 km/s, by Rule 1. I doubt that Sakura has such strength. To prove that Sakura has such strength, my opponent would have to source a situation in which Sakura throws somebody of about Bowser's girth numerous kilometers in one second. This is practically impossible. (Note that the reason Bowser could actually escape would be because he can constantly propel himself while in the air. ) Peach especially would be unable to launch other characters at such high speeds. Now, to launch fire down Bowser's throat, Charizard's head would have to be in Bowser's mouth. Bowser could easily shut his mouth and crush Charizard's neck, killing Charizard and preventing any fire from being unleashed. Okay, if Bowser's weight does not double, how does Bowser suddenly come crushing to the ground? At the very least, Bowser picks up enough force to suddenly crash back into the ground, which would sufficiently disrupt Charizard's plan. My opponent claims that Bowser cannot flip while being grabbed by Charizard. There is no reason to think this, as there is nothing Charizard can do to stop Bowser from flipping. As for timing, Bowser, being of the Final Boss Rank, has Excellent! ! timing, and would definitely nail the return. Bowser cannot leave the "arena" without Charizard, because to be eliminated, Bowser would have to exit the planet's gravitational pull, which would be impossible as long as Charizard still held onto him. Charizard would end up leaving along with Bowser, at the very least. The second Charizard tries to take off, Luigi would pull out the Jump Helmet for Mario to get to Charizard. This only takes a few seconds, and Charizard would be knocked out of the sky before Sakura got to them. Additionally, thanks to their Big Shells, Mario and Luigi would be unaffected by Sakura's first three major hits, long enough to get to Charizard. There is no need for Mario and Luigi to knock down the rubble with hammers. They would merely need to dodge. Bowser would come crashing back down to the planet with Body Slam to engage Sakura. Sakura cannot throw Bowser at 11km/s, so Bowser would merely be spinning around the planet at an extremely fast rate, until he Body Slams back into the planet, crushing Sakura. Besides, my opponent has not questioned the Green Shell being kicked at Sakura as she attempts to throw Bowser, disrupting Sakura's concentration and freeing Bowser, allowing him to eat Sakura. My opponent asks how Mario and Luigi are fast enough to avoid Sakura, but the better question is how Sakura is fast enough to catch up to Mario and Luigi. To show how fast Mario and Luigi can be, I would like to present Video 1, Pocket Chomp. Just watch around (1:00) to see how fast Mario and Luigi go upon being chased. I've gotten to the point where they run across the length of the screen in a quarter of a second. I would like to point out that as both Brothers wear Gumption Socks, they would have to be eliminated together, as one will revive soon after being knocked unconscious (they really don't die, as conceded by my opponent) as long as the other remains conscious. After Sakura tires out and runs out of chakra, unleashing a barrage of items on her would be a piece of cake. . http://www.youtube.com... My opponent's only plans for actually eliminating Bowser involve getting him off the planet, but he can punch Charizard to stop anything, Body Slam will flawlessly get him back to the ground in no time, and Sakura can't throw him with enough force to knock him off of the planet. My opponent contends that Sakura will bust out of Bowser's body. However, he has already conceded that Sakura would be unconscious upon entering Bowser's body, which prevents any breakouts. Additionally, Sakura would shrink upon being eaten, losing her massive strength. 2. Operation Shield If Charizard's head ends up in Bowser's mouth, it will soon be detached from Charizard's body by teeth. I have challenged my opponent's claim that Joy has a launching force of 11k/s in the Flaws section. . http://www.youtube.com... See Video 2 (0:37) for how fast Mighty Meteor travels. As I have said at least three times before, Mario and Luigi have Excellent! ! timing, and therefore will not fail. Mighty Meteor is a rock, and therefore would only require at the most one complete cycle to defeat Charizard, double-weak to Rock-type attacks. My opponent intends to counter with Overheat. However, as Mario and Luigi have plenty of SP, being Rainbow Rank and all, they have tons of Mighty Meteors to use, while Charizard will quickly lose Overheat's power. My opponent's "experience" tells him that Bowser is slow and clumsy, but Bowser has obviously gotten faster and more agile by M&l:BiS [1]. Now, enemies in the game do not counter, but if one were allowed to control Bowser against Mario and Luigi, Bowser could simply duck to avoid a jump. It was not clumsiness, but his state at that point in the game, that forced him to accept the jump. My opponent calls launching a giant turtle at 11 kilometers per second "child's play. " This is obviously absurd. Besides, Bowser could come back out of his shell rather quickly to pull off a punch. I have already explained how Bowser can counter all of Charizard's physical attacks, making my opponent's statement to the contrary one out of ignorance. If Charizard attacks Bowser from above, Bowser can repel Charizard and damage him with his spikes. My opponent gives no reason to think that Mario and Luigi are actually KO'd by anything. As Sakura must pause while healing, she becomes easy prey for Bowser. Peach's Calm will quickly run out thanks to the limits of Emotion, making its effects insignificant. If Peach were to use Rage, Bowser would roll up into his shell and roll around the planet similar to his attack in Super Mario Galaxy, dodging Peach until Rage runs out and crashing into Charizard when Peach leaves him. Flaws 1a. As my opponent's plan still involves Peach and Sakura exiting the pipe Bowser is attempting to eat, the pipe would not move, but Peach and Sakura would fly right into Bowser's mouth. 1b. 11 kilometers per second is far too fast for Sakura. And what's this talk of clone techniques? They're unsourced, and I wasn't aware that she could even use such techniques. 2m. UTW, by the same line, is a spin-off event. 2i. Mario and Luigi would be flying through the air, eventually landing back down to the ground. Emotion would be wasted. That is all that would occur. 2s. These contentions are refuted above. In conclusion, Bowser can easily defeat Charizard head-to-head, and Body Slam prevents tossing him away. Mario and Luigi can easily avoid Peach and Sakura until they run out of Emotion/Chakra. Bowser can eat both Peach and Sakura, easily. Team CON cannot send things at 11 km/s. Thank you for this debate. 1. . http://www.mariowiki.com... (Search "treadmill" for Bowser's extreme marathon on the treadmill. )