A Christian can lose their salvation 1

First of, before getting into the bulk of the debate, I would like to respond to my opponent's definition of a Christian. The opening round was meant solely for acceptance, and rules; nothing else. This is grounds or a loss in conduct points. Next I would like to say that this is a topic that as of now I'm fairly uncertain of my stance on. there is plenty of scripture both ways to support either belief. It it my hope that through the course of his debate, that both my opponent and I can argue in such a way as to produce genuine thought and clash between these two beliefs. It is not my hope, that either of us debates this round with the intention of simply trying to tuck another win beneath our belts, or to change the others beliefs. But instead to test the metal of our own. That said, I will not begin with the actual debate. = Definitions = Christian-[1] Romans 10:9 "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. " Lose- [1]"Be deprived of or cease to have or retain" Salvation- [2] John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. " = Arguments = 1. Exodus 32:33 NIV "The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. " + You cannot blot out a name that was never there + Since the name had to have been there in the first place, the person knew God. To have been blotted out, means that a person has lost their salvation. 2. Luke 8:13 NIV "Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. " + They received the word with joy when they heard it. + They believed for a while; there was a belief in their lives. + They fell away, losing their salvation 3. Matthew 10:33 NIV "But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven. " + Cross reference with Romans 10:9, if one has believed in their heart, and declared with their mouth "Jesus is Lord" then they have been saved. But when if they later they deny Christ, and never repent of it, then they have lost their salvation. 4. Ezekiel 33:13 NIV "If I tell a righteous person that they will surely live, but then they trust in their righteousness and do evil, none of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered; they will die for the evil they have done. " + When God declares some-one as righteous, they are righteous indeed. + When some-one begins to be self reliant, and trusting in their own righteousness, they no longer trust in God + They die for their self-righteousness. 5. Ezekiel 33:18 NIV "If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, they will die for it. " + You can't turn from righteousness if you aren't righteous. 6. 1 Timothy 4:1 NIV "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. " + Is any commentary really necessary here? Romans 11:22 NIV "Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. " + God forgives those who repent when they've done wrong. + If you don't repent you aren't in God. + You get cut off. = Sources = [1] . http://goo.gl... [2] Google Dictionary