God as a Biblical Figure is Evil

The point is that the firstborns' deaths were a last resort to the atrocities committed by Pharaoh. Firstborns were set aside at birth to be given to God, which is why the firstborns were the ones affected. If you read one or two chapters ahead, you would read that God did indeed kill the Pharaoh and his army. God has moral authority over life that we humans do not have. In Christian theology, no one is good, like you claim. No one is innocent. We are all born into sin and that sin must be absolved in some way or another. Your qualm is the fact that these humans died young rather than died later. Romans reads " I raised you up for this reason so that I may display My power in you and that My name may be proclaimed in all the earth. " God has given each person life for a different reason. These children were given life so that God's power would be shown through their death. If your issue is the fact that they died young, when is a proper age to die? Why does God let anyone die ever? Many churches hold to the doctrine of age of accountability, which states that if a child cannot comprehend the Gospel, God forgives their sin and they are absolved of their sin. God took these children, demonstrated his power through them, and then took them to heaven to be with him. To argue that living on the Earth rather than this would be absurd. God took the lives of those that would come back to him in heaven rather than ending the lives of those that weren't in order to give them one last chance at salvation. I said in this time and place it was common for a whole family to bear the punishment of one member. The Holocaust is a terrible analogy. Most of the Germans had no idea what was going on, making it NOT common. That was a vile act enacted upon the Jews by a small percentage of Germans. He could have done it a different way. He could have forced Pharaoh to kill everyone in Egypt. He could have sent a flying horse to rescue the Israelites. He could have done several things, but he didn't. How do you know that any other solution would have been better? You do not, and neither do I. The old testament has many places where punishment is seen. It was a very much "tit-for-tat" type of society. If you crossed or disobeyed God, you would get punished. I meant that in this instance the animal's lives did not matter, as the preservation of the entire human race was in the balance. You say the question is whether I would kill the cat if I did not need to. Do you have a better plan? Are you to build a larger boat to fit the millions and millions of animals that were alive there? This was a total restart. All the righteous people were gathered on the boat along with what they would need to repopulate the earth, and no more. The animals" lives did not matter in this instance. If you went and drowned puppies, that would be wrong, as you had no need of doing it. This was a total war against the Earth itself. God brought an animal of each kind, and the animals we see today are a byproduct of evolution. Why did God not teleport animals into the future when Noah's family landed? Who can say. It is not normal for God to supernaturally intervene. Yes, I know there are Many places in the Bible where he does, but if you look at how long the Bible and the Earth have existed, then those times seem insignificant. Most of the time, he allows free will to take its course and punishes those people consequently. Also, it is the parents fault that their children were killed, not only did they have ample warning, but even after God provided a way out. If they sacrificed an animal and covered the doorway with blood, their children would be spared. The parents and Pharaoh himself indirectly killed their children. The word for regret in this passage translates to "repent." as I have stated, God does not repent like man does. As you have not brought up new points nor refuted my earlier points, I will continue. Second, you do not act as the moral authority. What if God saw that the boys would grow up and kill all the Israelites? Is it better for the Israelites to wait for the boys to grow up then kill them? Would you have them held prisoner until the age of 21 just to be executed? If you are debating morality, that seems immoral. I did not admit God condones the killing of children. God condones the act of exercising his authority over every living thing on the Earth in order to call many to salvation. The Israelites"' children"s' deaths were the parents' fault. That may seem cruel, but if you were in Egypt and in that time saw all the water being turned into blood, saw frogs take over the city, saw lice take over the city, saw locust take over the city, saw the livestock die, saw boils break out amongst the people, hail and fire reign down from the heavens, saw flies take over the city, and saw absolute and complete darkness engulf Egypt for three days, how idiotic would you have to be to not believe that A. God would punish you more severely, and B. not protect you children? How long did they think this was going to go on? Did they think that God would just bother them until they let the Hebrews go? I did not respond because you took random verses from the Bible and used them as arguing points without understanding anything about them. It takes too long to educate you on every single one of them, so I focused on two that YOU chose. If you chose them, why are you unable to refute me counterargument against them? Your next point is a fallacy of Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc. You incorrectly say that because it is ingrained in humanity, we were designed with it. If you read my previous statement, we were not designed with it, rather, after The Fall, it was then ingrained within us. We are responsible for our sin. The fact remains that we were NOT designed to be proud. You cannot repeat your statement after I argued against it and expect that to count as a rebuttal. Another incorrect analogy. If you created some sort of machine that was meant to worship you and live in communion with you, and I came along and reprogrammed it, that would suffice. What caused Adam to eat the apple? Satan's temptation. Curiosity is not a sin. The act of carrying it out is. God did not change anything about the design because, again, Adam was created perfect. It was only after Satan entered the garden and corrupted them that they were rendered sinful. I realize it was too late to ask for definitions, which is why in round 1 I said you must argue within Christian theology. I feel I have refuted the 10th plague by demonstrating the murder was indirectly committed by the parents. I did not say that this was okay, I said that it was common for the family to bear the consequence. As for why God chose the enact the flood the way he did, I cannot say. Why didn't he chose a plan where the sea creatures died and the land animals did not? God saved the righteous, which did not include the animals. I said that the term slavery was used in a much, much broader definition that it is used today. I already talked about Leviticus, but I will choose one more for the fun. Exodus. This verse gives rules as to how slaves are to be treated. Just because God gave rules about something does not mean that He condones it. Exodus 21:12-14 gives rules about murder, but God does not condone murder, as seen in the Ten Commandments. I will no wrap this up. Through this debate, you have seen my opponent use many logical fallacies, of which I have specifically named. He has chosen a large number of verses of which he does not understand the context or background of and has stood behind them to use as his examples. He cites me not explaining every verse as my inability to do so, which again, is illogical. It is tiresome to do research for both me and my opponent, which is why I responded to a good number of them instead of all. My opponent has no grasp on the historical context of the verses nor does he have a grasp on Christian theology. To argue God without Christian theology is impossible because He does not exist without Christian theology. My opponent quote verses he does not understand. God is absolutely moral. He tells us not to murder, lie, cheat, steal. He tells us to turn the other cheek and not seek revenge. He tells us to quickly forgive those that have wronged us. These morals are ones that we value today. Ones that were passed down from generation to generation. Not only is God moral, but he is the basis for all morality. Thank you.