Torture

I believe that if a terrorist does not comply with authorities than the most accurate things are to keep torturing. Let"s take 9-11 for example, if the authorities knew that there was a terrorist who knew everything, the authorities would have captured him or her and torture that person. In this case torturer can be the only reason where it can save many lives. Because it would save many lives, I believe torture can be morally justified. There are many scenarios where torturer is the only answer to save other people. Although torturer can seem as a wrong thing it is used to save people from getting harm. This can be morally acceptable. Therefore that would make it morally justified. Although I said torturer is the fastest and effective way I still believe it is morally justified. When there is a human being in danger, one"s responsibility is to always help that person that would mean that the morality thing to do is to help and sometimes torture is the answer. Another scenario as listed in premise is that one can kidnap someone and give information to the police about it, which can help find the victim. In that case torture would be morality justified. One might think that torturer is something bad, but what if they were in a situation where they cannot find their son or daughter. How would that person possibly feel? I stated that "morality can be viewed in different ways" which meant that morality is subjective. Everyone can have different definitions for morality. There are many different statements that people say about morality. For example to a teenager morality can mean something good or bad depends on your beliefs but for an adult it can be something more complex. So my premise I can state that morality is subjective. That would also be something that can be minimal controversial. When I said that lying just brought more harm. I was just trying to show that I did not clearly understand because in premise 11 it says "After complying with the torturer the information obtained from the tortured person may not even be true" yet in premise 13 you say that negative duties make us avoid harm. Say the victim gave the torturer false information then that person would be asking for harm. So both of your premises are contradicting. As you just said lying would just bring more harm. Meaning that in this case there is no such thing as a negative duty. If there were negative duty which means avoiding harm then that would mean the victim is not going to give false information. How can it possible that one person will keep on giving wrong information. Again it does not make sense because it seems as it saying one thing and then something else. The torturer usually takes care of the victim. I had mistaken, you are right. The torturer does not always help the victim but in some cases he does. There is no further harm because once the torturer is given what he or she wants; it means that that the victim will be fine. Sometimes the torturer gets what they want from the victim and leave everything as it is. What the torturer wants or needs is always neutral. Which means it does not necessarily mean it always for a bad reason. Yet why torturer should be referred as bad when that is not the case. At the end of the argument , I see the analogy but still it is different in this case. The torturer helps the victim too live with his life after giving up all the information which can cause him harm. Yes it may seem as "It"s almost like cheating on your boyfriend then buying him a gift. You still cheated. It"s not okay because you bought him something. Similarly you still harmed another person. It"s not okay because you protected him after.". But yet, I don"t seem it like that. Because at the end of the day , I think everyone does the same. Like I said in my premise. Why is it that when someone accidentally killed someone it is not seemed as wrong because it was an accident? But if someone tortured someone then it would be awful. Torturing is way different than killing someone. I don"t understand how one might think that torturing is something similar to killing. When torture can be a possible way to save a life.