Miley Cyrus should go back to her home on Whore Island and not do anything on TV for 30 years

*"I havent seen anyone wage sexual jihad with a foam finger before." Not "same thing" as in exactly twerking on Robin Thicke and having a foam finger onstage. Same thing as in wearing little clothing onstage, performing sexual dances, etc. Lady Gaga, Madonna, Rihanna, Janet Jackson, the list could really go on. My point was obviously that this is not new by any stretch of the imagination, and what Miley did was, essentially, no different. *"Theres a difference between being sexy on a music video that no one is going to watch and then whoring yourself out like theres no tomorrow on the VMA's for no reason whatsoever." The exact difference between "being sexy" and "whoring yourself out" is up for debate; if it's the same act, you have to call it that. What, twerking in a music video for no reason is better than doing it on live TV? But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt- more people see the VMAs than the music videos. You got me there. But you seemingly ignored my statement preceding this: "Whore'd themselves out for ratings/sending a message/this/that/the other(.)" As I said in my previous point, this is not new. Look at the fifties- Elvis' gyrations and the Beatles' dirty song lyrics were social equivalents. Many thought, "Wow, they're being crude and dirty for no reason. What's this world coming to?" It's obviously a less extreme version of today's thought, but its power remains. And as for the haircut, I think we can agree that that has little to do with the actual debate. *"Charlie Sheen, Spears, nor Madonna have done anything even close to as controversial and universally condemned as what Miley Cyrus did" Charlie Sheen's constant bragging of his severe drug abuse (and the subsequent fan-base he received for doing so) is by far a worse message than one dumb dance. Granted, Sheen doesn't have as many teenage girls for fans. Britney Spears did plenty of sexy dances in her time, then snapped, shaved her head, did drugs, and can essentially be seen as a Miley for the 2000s. She *did* have a lot of teenage girls for fans, and has since recovered and is making a respectable comeback. And Madonna... Madonna's whole career has been based on her sexually explicit lyrics. Well, she's been doing it recently: http://thehill.com... - She's 55 years old, was once the biggest pop-star in America, and she's *still* exploiting herself! And as far as "universally condemned," that's frankly just a silly statement. So, people in Syria are Tweeting about her dance? China? Russia? Pssh, anywhere else, really? Yeah, of course you can find a couple, but I guarantee you nobody, even just a week later, cares. We do here in America for some reason, but this does not count for "universal." Media attention =/= "bad"-ness of the act itself. *"The Beatles have NEVER whored themselves out on TV" You can stop right there- they didn't use foam fingers, but were whores in similar ways. The Beatles were a boy-band- manufactured group of attractive young men who perform catchy pop songs about relationships that's heavily marketed to teenage girls. But this debate is not about the Beatles. If anyone would like to further discuss it, I'm for it. *"Name a single instance... when anyone famous has ever gone from monsterously outrageous whore to little goody-good girl. Go ahead. TRY." www.everydayhealth.com/addiction-pictures/0302/celebrities-who-beat-addiction.aspx#/ In short, Drew Barrymore, Kelly Osbourne, and Jodie Sweetin Maureen McCormick for those not mentioned. It's completely possible. *The Princess Di thing was an extreme example, but other celebrities (see above) have sometimes made an attempt at similar redemption. They do speeches, talk out against drug use, etc. I have a few more arguments for my side than you do for "She is a whore, and thus, will always be one." Which is, of course, faulty logic- celebs have better opportunities for redemption.