The Existence of God

As Apokiliptik’s username is troublesome to type out, we have agreed on a username to refer him as, which is Jon. As debates in their very nature can lead to heated exchanges, I hope that Jon and I can treat each other with respect and maturity in order to maintain the best debating environment possible. As the rules specify in the first round, the second round is for arguments only. I will present three arguments in this round that will be the foundation of my side of the debate. First Round Problems: When Jon accepted the debate in the first round, he stated two main concerns that he had with the debate. Definition of Atheism The definition I provided for Atheism was as follows, “Lacking the belief in god/gods. ” Jon did not agree with this, so we have worked together to come up with a new definition that we both agree with. This is, "having the belief that no god(s) exist. " Definition of Omnipotence Jon also presented his problem with the definition of omnipotence. After having a long and meaningful conversation about it that lasted about two days. We have made progress, but have sadly not come to an agreement. The disagreement is as follows; I believe Omnipotence is, “the ability to do all things. ” Jon believes that Omnipotence is, (as he said in our conversation) “maximally powerful in relation to ability (having only the limits of his nature and that He can't do things which are by definition impossible)” Sadly we could not work this out before the time was up for the debate to start so we will have to start the debate with opposing viewpoints. A1: In order for a being to possess the title of God, this being must possess the trait of omnipotence. In other words, if a being does not possess omnipotence, this being is not a God. In this argument, I will prove how omnipotence is an impossible trait to possess, therefore making it impossible for any God to exist. Omnipotence is the ability to do all things. If a being cannot do all things, then that being is not omnipotent. But some abilities are impossible such as; being a married bachelor. Since you cannot be married and be a bachelor at the same time that ability is impossible to possess. Logic Steps: 1: God has to be omnipotent, if he is not he is not a god. 2: Omnipotence is the ability to do all things. 3: Since the ability of being a married bachelor is impossible, it is impossible to have the ability to do all things. 4: Omnipotence is impossible. 5: Since omnipotence is impossible, God is impossible. 6: God does not exist. A2: In my second argument, I will be using the common argument of morality. By definition (as specified in the first round) if God is to exist, he would have to retain moral perfection. Since God is omnipotent, he has the ability to do all things, therefore he is able to stop any immoral actions to take place ever. Yet many immoral actions have happened and happen every day (e. g. The Holocaust, The Black Death, The Great Chinese Famine, WWII, etc. ) yet God did not stop these immoral acts from occurring. Logic Steps: 1: God is morally perfect and omnipotent (has the ability to stop all immoral acts). 2: If God exists there should be no evil, immorality, cruelty, etc. 3: Yet there is evil, immorality, cruelty, etc. 4: Therefore God does not exist. A3: The God of the Christian origin is described through the Bible. “As for God, his way is perfect: The LORD's word is flawless; he shields all who take refuge in him. ” Psalm 18:30 “You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. ” Matthew 5:48 “The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul; The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple; “ Psalm 19:7 God, described by the Bible is thought to be perfect. Something is rendered perfect when it has no imperfections. Anything that is an extension of its being has to be perfect. Yet God makes mistakes/imperfections. Evidence of this is, “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. ” (1) (Repent: to feel regret or contrition) (2) The Bible is a credible source to use to envision God, because according to the Christian culture the Bible is written by their God. Since God regrets his decision on making man, he feels he has made a mistake and regrets making man in the first place. Yet God doesn’t make mistakes, God is perfect and has no imperfections. Logic Steps: 1: According to Christian culture, God is perfect. (evidence of this is cited above, Bible) 2: God should not have regrets because he is perfect. 3: God is therefore not perfect because he has done an imperfection. 4: The God of Christianity is contradictory. 5: God does not exist. Conclusion: I conclude that the God of the Christian origin does not exist because of the reasons provided above. I look forward to the arguments that Jon will bring up in his next response. I’d like to wish Jon, and anybody reading this the best of luck, thank you! Citations: (1) . https://www.biblegateway.com... also see Genesis 6: 5-7 Holy Bible King James Version (2) . http://www.merriam-webster.com...