Abortion

My opponent has dropped many of his arguments and his rebuttals, but I will not name them as drops count as concessions and I want to keep it that way. "I am sorry, but your comment about my Point 1 from Round 2 I do not get."You related alchohol to abortion, I related abortion to abortion proving that when abortions are legal there are more "unsafe" abortions and when it is illegalnumber is lower. So you did a comparison of two different things, I used hard cold abortion statistics. Point 2My opponent concedes that only a few died of illegal abortions in 1972, therefore conceding that most backstreet abortions are safer than not. Point 3I do not trust that source at the moment, maybe I will open to it. But ok I proved that when it was illegal less illegal abortions occured. Unlike now where backstreets are still illegal but it is still done. SO let's look at raw numbers I will use your source:In 2008, 1.21 million abortions were performed [1]So 1.21 murders happened (that is one thing that you didn't refute)When it was illegal only 130,000 babies where killed [2]SO there is a visable decrease, now lets look at illegal backstreet ones:1972: 130,000 [2]1973: about 40 [3]So there is a small increase in deaths. My sources are Senators and Doctors (so it is reliable). Let's do norway http://en.wikipedia.org...when legalized you see many up's and downs but at the end in 2005 it is highr than it was in 1980. Point proven? Yes. Point 4GOOD! We are arguing america and you brought in UK so I did likewise with Norway. If our laws do that you again prove my argument above, if it is illegal that WILL NOT do it here. So you once again PROVE my argument above that legawould raise illegal abortions rates and illegalizing it lowers them. You have proven my point, abortion laws work in the countries they are used in. Point 5You prove that more aborti occur on the first trimester (12 weeks) I proved a bbls paithin the first trimester, therefore all your argument does if prove my point. If a baby can feel pain at 6 or 8 weeks then most abortions will make the fetus feel pain. So your argument doesn't help. Point 61. You proved MY point with earlier arguemnts. 2. My sources where people in congress and a pro-abortion doctor that concedes my point. 3. I trust doctors and goverment people more than an edu site. Also you link 1990s. The majority (86%) of the decline in the teen pregnancy rate between 1995 and 2002 was the result of dramatic improvements in contraceptive use [4]This is all from pro abortion sites. This proves that it was the after night pill not abortion. I am ok with an after night pill. about 9% of kids where tought absinence in 1995 [4]So right there -9%.Also logically how does abortion lower this? It lowers the amount of babies but I have proven it increases crime with some of the best soures. Women should use contraceptives, not abortion, to prevent unwanted pregnancies. A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) study showed that 19-25% of women who received abortions in 2006 had previously had one or more abortions. [5] It does't prevent anything, people just do it again and again. Point 7Your pro choice correct? Then let them do as they please with their kids after their out, as killing a child is illegal (my point). But adoption is another option. this source says OVER 2,000,000 people want adoption [6]So if they wanted to give aay their kid then the kid would get adopted. So who cares if they keep the kid? I belive in pro-choice after birth (as long as its not killing the kid). So keeping it is their choice. If she is raped and in the very low chance that she becomes pregnant (as I have proven it's rare) then she will surely give it to adoption. So whats yur point here?Point 8he he: " but why make an innocent child pay"That's the whole point of my argument! Why kill a chid for what it has not done! Thats like saying you take away something you are dening them freich is not always the case. As you have the BOP to prove that it is a god right (well that's what the consitution says) nd you have yet done so. Also when poor will do 2 things : 1. I know many poor people and they hate abortion they would give it away to adoption, 2. peo choice pro people would give it away, or 3. let it grow uo with them. Living poor isn't bad as albert eistein was poor. Look where he got. Barack obama was poor, look where he is now. herman cain was poor, he became a CEO. Poor people in poverty are more likely to abandon their kids at an orphanage. [7]They are more likely to abort and give away their children. So adoption is a big option for them. Point 9Well here we go since you have provided no proof for either side just statements I will go: poverty levels in 1973: 11.1% [8]poverty levels in 1971: about 9% [9]They rose after legalization. Point 10You need to prove it or else your argument is null and void. I cannot refute a non-existing argument. Point 11Mine prove otherwise. Point 12Abortion causes mental illness:Abortions cause psychological damage. A 2002 peer-reviewed study published by the Southern Medical Journal of more than 173,000 American women found that women who aborted were 154% more likely to commit suicide than women who carried to term. [10]An Apr. 1998 Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology study on men whose partners had abortions found that 51.6% of the men reported regret, 45.2% felt sadness, and 25.8% experienced depression. [11]So based on that male patners get damage too. Point 13Abortion increases the likelihood that women will develop breast cancer. In early pregnancy, levels of estrogen increase, leading to breast growth in preparation for a woman to milk her child. When the process is interrupted by abortion, immature cells are left in the woman's breasts, resulting in a greater potential risk of breast cancer. [12]Since 2006, eight medical organizations including the Breast Cancer Prevention Institute, the Catholic Medical Association, and the National Physicians Center for Family Resources have recognized the connection between abortion and breast cancer. [13]I'll keep coming with more. Point 14proof?Point 15My former argument disproves this. ==conclusion==I have refuted all of his claims with facts and even used pro abortions sites that concede what he want's to prove. Vote CON!sources: http://www.guttmacher.org... [1]your argument [2]My previous sources on the topic [3]http://www.guttmacher.org... [4]Terry Eastland, "The Forgotten Option," The Weekly Standard, Jan. 29, 2003 [5] "Landmark Study Shows Vast Majority of Americans Support Adoption," www.adoption.com (accessed Apr. 1, 2010) [6]http://en.wikipedia.org... [7]http://www.freerepublic.com... [8]http://www.census.gov... [9]David. C. Reardon, PhD, et. al., "Deaths Associated With Pregnancy Outcome: A Record Linkage Study of Low Income Women," Southern Medical Journal, Aug. 2002. [10]Priscilla Coleman, PhD, and Eileen S. Nelson, EdD, "The Quality of Abortion Decisions and College Students' Reports of Post-Abortion Emotional Sequelae and Abortion Attitudes," Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology, Apr. 1998 [11] Jose Russo, MD, and Irma Russo, MD, "Susceptibility of the Mammary Gland to Carcinogenesis. Pregnancy Interruption as a Risk Factor in Tumor Incidence," The American Journal of Pathology, Aug. 1980 [12]The Coalition on Breast Cancer, "Medical Groups Recognizing Link," www.AbortionBreastCancer.com (accessed Apr. 7, 2010) [13]