Capitalism: part II

Response Points 1-3: Since you didn't respond to any of these points, I will simply use them in seperate attack points later in this argument. Response Point 4: I will seperate this into two seperate points. Point 1: Yes. Jobs are needed (VOTERS: This is a fact) Point 2: "Every time the federal government undertakes some simple task, it becomes an effort to reinvent the world. Last week it was revealed that a $20 million stimulus program in Seattle to weatherize homes had managed to weatherize three homes and create 14 jobs in its first year. Nothing is ever straightforward. Every city has lots of companies in the business of weatherizing homes. But the government can't just go out and hire them. It has to throw in provisions for taking people off the street for job training with special outreach for Spanish language speakers and so by the time all this is thrown into the pot, nothing gets done.": http://spectator.org.... The government one, does not have the obligation or right to create jobs (I invite you to pick up a copy of the US Constitution and state me the passage in there that contradicts me), and two, when the government does try to create jobs, it usually does it horribly. Response Point 5: Newspapers love to make money as much as other businesses do. The most important or sensational news stories are printed from front to back (or the first section has the biggest news stories, and the further away from the front section, the more mundane the story, and the further away from the front page of a particular section, the more mundane the story is). I have noticed that OWS has not even been mentioned on the news channel either. Plus, they are losing membership drastically. "At its height, Occupy was a few thousand leftists in a park. Now it is a few hundred leftists without a park and with a couple of faculties that really should be put to a more productive purpose.": http://www.nationalreview.com.... Response Point 6: Thank you for the concession (VOTERS: This is a concession by my opponent). Please do not come back to this point. Response Point 7: People are greedy by nature. That is why socialism exists. Becuase the poor want the rich's money. " the truly essential biological part of human nature is the capacity to experience the feelings of others as much as our own feelings. Rather than greed, this capacity for solidarity may be what makes us distinctly human.": http://www.workers.org.... "think a lot of people are materialistic, but only a few (unfortunately the ones who are usually in charge) practice greed": http://savannahnow.com.... Response Point 8: Thank you for the concession (VOTERS: This is a concession by my opponent). Please do not come back to this point. Response Point 9: I will seperate this into two seperate points. Point 1: I see that you are ignorant of much economics. The concept of the difference between real wages and nominal wages is hard to grasp for some, but they will eventually get it. Point 2: You forget that I am 2 years younger than you are. How are you not good with money when I am excellent at economics and I am even younger than you? I will not count this as a concession, but please do not come back to this point. Response Point 10: Do you know why the trusts were created? Your beliefs to not align with socialism. You are saying that companies should be able to merge and form massive monopolies (I believe this is ok, but I am a Capitalist, you aren't). It's America's socialistic policies that try to stop these mergers (look at the antitrust lawsuits brought upon AT&T for trying to merge (or take over) T-Mobile: http://www.engadget.com...). Response Point 11: You are flip-flopping. First, you said that the stock market caused the Great Depression, and now you are claiming that deficit spending caused the Great Depression. Did I change your mind, you did you change your own mind? Either way, deficit spending had absolutely nothing to do with the Great Depression. I can't even find a source linking or disproving the two. And what does the Marshall Plan have to do with the Great Depression? "The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP) was the large-scale American program to aid Europe where the United States gave monetary support to help rebuild European economies after the end of World War II in order to combat the spread of Soviet communism.": http://en.wikipedia.org.... No connection. Response Point 12: We are debating Capitalism, and you bring up nuclear winters and EMPs. Irrelevant. Response Point 13: In Capitalism, there are recessions, but there is an equal, if not greater amount of boom period time. If you analyse a Capitalistic country's economy over a length of time from a couple of years on, you will find in almost all cases that there is some economic growth. There is always steady growth in a Capitalistic economy. And again, partial democracies are a socialistic ideology because they advocate for a bigger government, so naturally, they favor that the laws they pass are not seen by the general public until execution. In pure Capitalism, there is no strong Government (hence why I and Ron Paul say that America does not currently have a Capitalistic Economy), so there can be no partial democracies. ALL: My opponent has not attacked me on the other grounds that most debaters either address or directly attack me with, so I have no attack points. VOTERS: Please give me the Spelling and Grammar point. You can see why. I leave it up to you to decide who won this debate. Vote Pro. LANNAN13: Thank you for this debate. Thank you for accepting this debate, and thank you for debating with me. This was a clean debate. Thank you.