Does Canada "suck"

Sadly, the logic behind the argument is flawed, as well as failing for go further on why "Canada is a sh*ttty place to live" Also I expect a certain level of maturity from my opponent, such as no expletives and calling me despicable I gave my definition of "suck" as the very first comment, which I am sure you have seen because you posted right after it. My definition of "suck" for countries is: "not a good place to live in comparison to all places to live. " The reason I made that definition is because there is no choice of "No country" or "Make your own" for countries, it is either a country here or a country there, therefore they should be compared as in to find the most suitable place to live with your needs. My counter to your argument: Yes, we should all follow NAP, I heartily agree with you on that, but I ask you. What if people chose not to? How do you stop aggression without aggression? If someone is shooting children and you have a gun in your hand would you not shoot him because you follow NAP? Of course, people violate NAP like killing children or bombing villages, but if we take a step back it's all part of getting NAP to rule again, we make mistakes, stupid soldiers kill children, and that is wrong. We will never achieve total NAP, but we can strive for it, and although we violate NAP to stop it, so far we have not found many other alternatives. The government simply sees it as Human rights>NAP. (This is more war on terror, I prefer arguments actually regarding the internal function of Canada) The reason I find you argument invalid here is because we cannot stop people from violating NAP. It is an undeniable moral truth. Just bad people don't follow it, and we have to use force to counter. Fight fire with fire. You wish for a country where no one violated NAP, so life would be almost perfect. The sad truth is, that country does not and will not exist. All we can do is get as close as we can, which Canada is better in this sense than most other countries by far. (For example. to America:In more recent years, the USA as a country still typically has higher violent crimes rates. In 2012, the homicide rate in the USA was 4.7 per 100,000 residents,[34] Canada's was 3 times lower at 1.6. Certain methods of homicide are used more frequently in each country; in Canada (0.59), stabbing homicides occur 51.3% more often than in the USA (0.39), however firearm homicides occur 440% more in the USA (2.7) than in Canada (0.5). In the USA, you are 3 times more likely to die being shot (17.4%) then being stabbed (5.3%) Beyond homicides, the USA (112.9) has a higher robbery rate - 42.2% higher than Canada (79.4). Other violent crimes such as physical assaults or sexual assaults are not very comparable between the countries because of different definitions of the crimes. The disparity in property crime is not as large, however it still exists. The burglary/break-in rate in the USA (670.2) is 33.1% higher than in Canada (503.7), the theft rate in the USA (1959.3) is 33.4% higher than in Canada (1468.4), and the auto-theft rate in the USA (229.7) is slightly higher than the rate in Canada (223.5). [. https://en.wikipedia.org...] Your argument against the fact that Canada violated NAP, therefore is evil, is almost invalid as the fact that we violate NAP for the greater purpose and to stop others from, violating NAP. Also, how does the fact that Canada chooses to fight against terror have to do with it's internal function, such as all the reasons I stated in my first argument? Yes, of course tax is part of it but tax isn't your neighbors voting to rob you. It's more like everyone contributes for the greater good and for Canada is general. However, this is a completely different debate and I would appreciate if you gave me direct reasons why Canada sucks. "The State is evil" Once again, no direct argument why Canada is bad. It is missing a possibility. What if the majority of Canadians are good, and the minority bad, BUT the good people are in control? Maybe once in a while a bad person comes along but is outvoted because we have a democratic system and majority good people. That is Canada: We have majority good people and good people in charge (Maybe not so much Steven Harper but look, he was OUTVOTED) It works, as long as the organisation remains good. That's the problem in your argument. Situation 4 has another possibility. Also, what do we do without a government? Organisation is key to all function. I cannot think of a way society works without organisation and laws. It would just be a big mess. All successful animals today have some sort of organisation, and a system that resembles a government. Bees, Ants, Mice, lions, chimps, and many more. Yes, we will never have the perfect society with the perfect government, but we can get as close as we can. The reason why we have governments is because government includes elected officials who are supposed to create and enforce laws that support an infrastructure for the common good. Governments formalize laws and systems based on the ideals and values of the population the government serves. (. https://www.reference.com...) Your argument would be better suited to a debate that goes by "Is governments wrong? in which you explain thoroughly why in your opinion governments are wrong. The conclusion for your entire argument against Canada is : Governments are evil. Canada is controlled by a government. Therefore, Canada is evil. Well I guess by your logic every country is evil. EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY. Just no. (. https://en.wikipedia.org...) The fact that every country strives for a functional government is proof that governments are logical and needed. There is no way 7 billion people are all wrong. Even in history, the biggest, most powerful empires, Rome, Genghis Khan. the Aztecs, they ALL HAVE GOVERNMENTS. I think that means something. Governments with good people in control with a majority of good people under them accomplish magnificent things. It is a fact strengthened by history and the success of modern day countries with functional governments. (USA, England, Japan, CANADA) I find the majority of you argument flawed and untrue, as well as indirect to living in Canada, where in that sense is one of the best places to live. My reasons for this is all stated in my first argument. I have disproved my opponent of his argument while my first argument still stands strong, Canada undoubtedly is a wonderful place to live, which my opponent yet has to disprove. Yes, like many other countries, our government has some problems, bad decisions, but, in total, taking everything into consideration, the positivity is many times stronger than the negativity in this beautiful Country.