Resolved: Lord Voldemort is a better villain than The Joker

"1. So you do agree that Harry wasn't able to defeat Voldemort by himself at some level? Was it only Hermione and Ron that Harry had to have in order to be able to win?" Harry's help is no more special or competent than he is. Besides which, it's called "Harry Potter and the x y z" for a reason, Harry is the protaganist, the hero, the knight. Granger, Weasley and everyone else are support characters at most. "2. Is that the only Joker that exists?" No but given that the Joker as perceived in the Dark Knight is both A: as true to original, un-watered-down form as you can get a B: The most modern incarnation, I think it's fair to employ him. Particularly since the other mode media depicting him such as Arkham Asylum keeps the xanatos gambit section of his psychosis but does away with the "crazy prepared" and "villain with a cause" tropes that make him able to do what he does without getting his sh*t ruined on day one. The animated series of batman reduced the Joker to a giggling nitwit who would occasionally kill someone in cold blood because they'd annoyed him. The other films depicted him as an all-round psycopath complete with arbitrary morality and poir choice of henchman, and even Arkham City seems set to paint the Joker as someone trying to revive some arbitrary cause for the sake of monetary gain rather than being the agent of chaos that he is meant to be. "3. But if there were no scenes in the movie where he used the potato peeler, how do you prove he actually used it at all?" You didn't answer my question. Therefore I shall not answer yours. "4. So you agree that it was mostly Batman alone that was required to take down the Joker?" Required? Probably not. The Joker's interest in Batman probably comes from his unique take on crime. The Joker knows, one way or another, how to fool and deter standard law enforcement agencies but the batman is a totally different kettle of fish. I would say the Joker, on a scene by scene examination of the film, actually won. The Joker hurt Batman in a way no other criminal has done before or probably will do since. The Joker managed to make the Batman afraid, afraid for the life of Rachel, his love. The Joker managed to take away the one thing that Batman truly cherished. The Joker managed to turn Harvey Dent, a man who was seen as untouchable, into a cold blooded killer. The Joker did all this while outwitting absolutely everyone. Batman punched him in the head, but the scars Batman carries away from the encounter wil most likely last forever. The joker didn't do this to prove a point or promote a cause, he didn't even do it because he "wanted to watch the world burn" or because he had some grudge. The Joker did all this because he thought it would be funny. That's it. Like some kid in a playground being laughed at for getting a nutshot on the swings or falling off the side of the slide like a pinhead, the Joker extended immense influence over an entire city without an army, without any riches or material wealth, without even a sense of dignity, he does all this because it tickles his funnybone, even when he's hanging by a thread over a drop that could easily kill him. Hell, he's LAUGHING when he's falling towards his death moments before. Mouldywart ain't got no thang on tha Jokesta.