Does god exist

Thanks for that Pro. This shall be so brutal! "1. Just look at the complexity of our world, everything is designed with a purpose, and I don't believe that this all could've happened by random chance. The universe is like a perfect clock, the conditions on Earth are just perfect for life: not too close or far from the sun, perfect size, water, oxygen, stays in constant orbit, perfect moon, oh, and did I say water?" Notice that pro did not cite one source or give any evidence to this. Not a shred of evidence. He says: "**I don't believe** that this all could've happened by random chance" So we know that this is now not a debate about facts, but rather his beliefs. I don't believe that god is real. (Does that mean my argument is as good as his now?) Even if we assume that this argument is complete, it can easily be refuted: THE MULTIVERSE: Is the idea that there is more than one universe: There are in fact so many universes, that eventually our universe with the exact conditions we need to survive came to be. "2. First cause: The universe had to have been created by something, the universe couldn't just come from nothing. I'm almost certain that something can't come from nothing. There had to be some creation, maybe like in Genesis, or maybe like the Big Bang, but either of those had to have a cause." Here's one: Simultaneous Causation: This is the idea that cause and effect can happen simultaneously. The cause of the Universe could have happened at the same time of it's effect. Let's say we have atoms A, B, and C. If atom A causes atom B, then atom B would cause atom C, and atom C would cause atom A. Why accept god over simultaneous causation? "3. When atheists say they have looked for God but never found him: "The atheist can't find God for the same reason that a thief can't find a policeman." ? What? What does this have to do with anything? I guess if you'll be throwing some insults, I have nothing to lose... (Except for conduct) "There are two types of people in this world: Intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence." 4. People know the difference between good and bad, so in my opinion, there has to be something that is absolutely good: "A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line." People actually form opinions on what is good and or evil. Bob thinks gay marriage is evil. Sally thinks it's fine. Sally thinks abortion is evil. Bob thinks it's fine. Are these not plausible scenarios? We can therefor assert that good and evil is actually an opinion. "5. Also, some very smart men (probably smarter than you or I) have believed that there has to be a god, such as: Copernicus, Galileo, Isaac Newton, Einstein, and many more." Albert Einstein was actually an atheist. This proves nothing still. "6. The universe operates by uniform laws of nature, someone must've put these into place." Why? Pro refuses to back up his arguments it seems... "7. God pursues people, he wants people to believe in him. A lot of people have become believers after God has spoken to them, or saved them." Why should we assume god did this? There are many people from different religions who claim god spoke to them as well. This does not prove anything. It's only evidence that people naturally think that god is speaking to them, when really it's their conscience. Should we accept the other religions as well? Jewish people have also claimed god spoke to them, it's not proof of a god. "8. Jesus: Jesus' historical existence has pretty much been confirmed, and his Divinity has been documented by many reliable sources, not just the Bible." Saying the evidence in history that supports religion isn't the evidence for a skywizard. Also, please feel free to share a bit of this "evidence"... "By the way, I believe that evolution was a possibility, and if so, it would have been a tool that God used, and he had a plan from the very start." This is what so wrong with religion. The church used to think the earth was flat, until science disproved it. Then they said: Oh, look at god's masterpiece... This just proves how great he is. Up there is another example, of when they they change there mind once science disproves them. This is not an argument for god though, it is for a separate debate whether god made evolution or not. As of now, Pro's arguments' are unsourced, refuted, and off topic.