Rob Lucci vs Itachi

Contention #1: Itachi could drown Rob Lucci. 1) PRO says Itachi’s water dragon jutsu would be ineffective since One Piece devil fruit users are only weakened by sea water, however, Eichiro Oda (author of One Piece) has made it quite clear that any form of water is sufficient to activate a devil fruit user’s weakness. [1]. Thus, all Itachi needs to do is have the water dragon swallow Mr. Lucci whole and maintain the dragon in its form or create a collosal water dragon that fills the immediate area while keeping the water from dispersing. 2) PRO says that Lucci could use his moon walk (geppo to escape Itachi’s attack. The problem with this argument is that Itachi can freely manipulate the water dragon. Were Lucci to ‘skip into the air’, Itachi could aim the dragon into the air. All Itachi’s needs to do to nullify Mr. Lucci completely is to submerge at least a significant portion of his body inside the dragon. Once Lucci is rendered immobile, Itachi can kill Mr. Lucci at his leisure. 3) PRO says Itachi could use his tempest kick (rangyouku) to make enormous cuts into the dragon. However, we must keep in mind that this is a water dragon we’re talking about. A dragon that only possesses form as a result of Itachi’s chakra. Since there is nothing to indicate that Mr. Lucci could cut through chakra, the water dragon would be unaffected by his assault. We see a similar version of this phenomena in One Piece whenever a non haki-user attempts to attack an elemental devil fruit user. Thus, Rob Lucci could use as many tempest kicks as he wanted to. They’d all fly right through the dragon, as if the dragon were nothing more than thin air. 4) PRO presents us with no evidence that Lucci’s shave technique (soru) makes him faster than Itachi by any measure, thus you should disregard his assertion on that regard until he does. 5) PRO also fails to present any evidence that Lucci’s paper art technique (kami-e) would grant him the ability to distinguish Itachi’s shadow clones. There isn’t any as this technique cannot be used to enhance perception, much less to the degree that PRO indicates.[2]. This is especially harmful to PRO’s case because if Itachi can freely use his shadowclones, he can pull off any of his techniques against Lucci without Lucci be any the wiser. While two clones distract Lucci, the third can finish him off with any one of the instant-kill strategies I’ve offered here today. Contention #2: Itachi could burn Rob Lucci alive with the amaretsu. 1) PRO argues that since the Raikage dodged the Amaterasu against Sasuke, that Lucci could dodge the Amaterasu against Itachi. However, right of the bat, this argument makes some unjustifiable assumptions. (1) It assumes that Sasuke’s proficiency and control of the Amaterasu (at the time he used it) is the same as Sasukes. There’s no indication of this and plenty of indication that Sasuke’s skills and abilities were greatly inferior to Itachi’s at the time.[3] (2) It assumes that Itachi is going to just sit there and use the attack while Lucci is waiting on him to attack, like Sasuke did against the Raikage. [4] Itachi could just as easily use the attack while keeping Lucci guessing with smokebombs and shadowclones. It doesn’t matter how fast you are if you don’t know when the attack is coming and from where. 2) PRO also provides us with some numbers, claiming that Lucci can move 880,000x mach speed. However, not only is this number nowhere on the One Piece wiki, but there’s absolutely nothing to support it in the One Piece manga.[5] If he were that fast, he would have had no trouble killing Luffy here, much less giving Luffy time to speak while he’s running towards him at full speed.[6]. I request that PRO present some serious evidence that Lucci or Luffy were anywhere near the speed of light, a speed which Luffy had absolutely no capacity to deal with several story arcs later when he was much faster and stronger.[7] PRO is simply wrong in every shape and fashion. Contention #3: Itachi could seal Lucci away forever with the Susano'o 1) PRO suggests that Itachi’s sealing-sword only works on beings with chakra and requests us to consider whether Lucci has chakra. However, members of DDO, we need not consider this discussion. As stated by Orochimaru himself, the attack works on anyone the sword pierces.[8] 2) PRO once again harps on and on about speed, but Sasuke was able to counter the speedy Raikage just fine despite his speed and even got his arm burned off by the amaretsu in the process. Their battle had no conclusion, but it’s more or less undisputed that Itachi was on a completely level. What PRO keeps forgetting is that Itachi’s eyes enable him to anticipate the movements of speed opponents just fine. 3) PRO says that Lucci could counter with the shigan and rokougan all day. However, this wouldn’t’ do him any good. Itachis Susano’o comes equipped with the Yata Mirror. Thanks to it, he can ward off any attack, making him invincible when its used.[9] PRO also claims that Lucci was stronger than Luffy, who could shake a city, but I would request that he present evidence that he was stronger than (or strong as) Luffy before we consider this notion. It was Luffy’s superior strength that gave him the win against Lucci. Sources: [1]http://tinyurl.com... (noting that “people who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea”). [2] http://tinyurl.com... [3] http://tinyurl.com... [4] http://tinyurl.com... [5] http://tinyurl.com... [6] http://tinyurl.com... (@ 3:15) [7] http://tinyurl.com... (note Kizaru calling Luffy too slow) [8] http://tinyurl.com... [9] http://tinyurl.com...