ACCORDING to the HOLY BIBLE, CAIN DID NOT MARRY HIS SISTER

My opponent wrote: "1- Wikipedia says that a city can have as few as 1,500 people." Some say 1,500, some say 10,000, some say 50,000, some say 100,000, some say 1 Million, and some say 5 Million. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (in a BIG way), and agree to settle that a city is a minimum of 1,500 people. Then where are you claiming the other 1,497 people came from (besides Cain and his wife and child, Enoch?) According to the Holy Bible, they were clearly all native to the Land of Nod: This city is a huge problem for you, even if we agree to define a city as few as 10 people. Are you claiming that a city is made up of just 3 people??? LOLOLOLOLOL! "His wife is mentioned, which necessitates both a marriage and a wedding ceremony, actually. We don't know what the history of the wedding ceremony is," If you actually do not know what the history of the wedding ceremony is, then you are unqualified to speak on the subject of the history of the wedding ceremony. "or at what point in history this occurred" If you actually don't know that, then you are also unqualified to speak on that subject. "A wedding is by no means required for marriage, even today." Yes it is. Because he had a wife, and because he was married. Marriage necessitates a wedding ceremony, as you know. It states that he met his wife after he left Eden. No -- Cain's wife is not even mentioned until after he left Eden. You made up the above statement, and it does not appear anywhere in the scripture. As much as you may want them to be, your words are not scripture. "It makes no mention of a marriage, wedding, or relationship after Eden." It certainly does -- Cain had a wife, which means that he was married. The fact that he was married means that he had a wedding ceremony. The scripture says that Cain knew his WIFE. " We don't know when Cain killed Abel, or if either of them were married." If you actually don't know those things, then you are unqualified to speak on the subject of when Cain was married. I meant that Enoch's descendants did not build the city...In fact, Cain's "descendants" did not help build that city, but I will let you have that point nonetheless. How do we know that Enoch's descendants did not build the city?" Because they were not born until after the city was built. " The Bible records that Enoch had his descendants, and yes this recording does occur after it is recorded that the city was built," Exactly! =) "but this does not tell us when Enoch had the children." Yes it does -- it means that he had them after the city was built. Adam and Eve never went to Nod, and neither did anyone from Nod ever travel to Eden. Therefore they never met. That's because Adam was in Eden, not in the Land of Nod. That is patently untrue: For one thing, Eve was not Adam's mother, although Adam was clearly a man. Therefore she could not possibly have been the mother of "all men." Adam and Eve had no female seed until after Cain had already left Eden. In fact, it is doubtful as to whether Adam and Eve ever even had any daughter. How do you know they had no female seed until after Cain left?" Because that is what the Holy Bible states. " I can make baseless claimes with no proof...." That fact is abundantly clear from your posts! "The Bible, as well as historical legend, both say that Adam had children both male and female." The Bible does not say that, actually. It says that Seth had sons and daughters, and in any case, Adam had no female seed (neither daughters nor grand-daughters) until long after Cain had already met his wife in the Land of Nod and had his son Enoch with her. Therefore Cain could not possibly have married his own sister -- or even his own cousin. "Cain and Abel are not necessarily the first children," Yes they are: The Holy Bible states that fact explicitly. " nor are they necessarily the only ones who lived before Seth." Yes they are: The Holy Bible also states that fact explicitly. That is debatable: The way that verse is worded, it could have been referring to Seth having had daughters, not Adam, because both Seth and Adam are mentioned in that verse, but the person who had daughters is referred to as "he," not specifically as Adam. In any case, Adam and Eve clearly had no female seed (neither daughters nor grand-daughters) prior to Cain's banishment. Therefore, Cain's wife could not possibly have been his own sister, nor even his own cousin: The Holy Bible states these facts clearly and explicitly. the Holy Bible clearly states the fact that Cain's wife was native to the Land of Nod. Thank you for trying, but sadly for you, the actual scripture contradicts you on every point that you tried to make.