JFK was murdered, it's not some conspiracy theory

1. Much of the Warren Commission"s 1964 report went unpublished at the time of its release but LBJ laid out a 25 year plan for the release of sensitive material consistent with National security priorities. By 1998, the only unreleased documents were the the tax returns of private citizens and text redacted to exclude the names of living intel sources, undisclosed intel methods, and purely private matters. [1] The 1979 HSCA report intended that much of its sensitive material remain sealed until 2029 but in 1992, Senator John Glenn sponsored a bill to release most of the evidence by 1998, sealing only the most top secret articles for 25 years with an option to renew. Of the more than 5 million documents sealed in "79, only 3,000 remain sealed with some 40,000 partially redacted. President Trump recently declined to renew, so the last unseen documents will be released on October 26th. [2] Fanboy"s top argument that "all the records were sealed" fails to note that 99% of sealed records are now public and that the remainder are soon due. He accuses the CIA of the sealing, unaware that both the sealing and unsealing were highly publicized acts of Congress. If those final documents implicate the CIA, why would Bush 41, a former CIA director, sign a bill to accelerate their release? Why isn't the CIA objecting now? If the intention was to wait until all the principles were dead, wouldn't 50 years delay be more effective than 25? 2. Based on what evidence? The more conspirators, the greater the risk: what was the advantage of involving many agents? Oswald"s ballistic performance is not relevant to proving CIA complicity but is also proved perfectly plausible by a fair number of forensic tests, including those conducted by the FBI, CBS News and PBS"s Nova. Here's a clip from the 1967 CBS report: https://youtu.be... What evidence connects the people on the grassy knoll to the CIA? Were they all shooters? Based on what evidence? 3. So the real culprits are all in the open, shooting from the crowd on the ground while the patsy is a trained marksman hidden in a sniper"s nest 6 floors above? Isn't it usually the other way around? If Oswald was coached by the CIA, why didn't the CIA keep a tighter lid on the guy? In the months before the assassination, agent Oswald was certainly threatening to blow the Op: going on radio shows, threatening to blow up FBI offices, trying and failing to assassinate General Walker, wandering off to New Orleans and Mexico City, trying to get to Cuba" Why would the CIA let their patsy shoot a cop and spend a couple of nights getting interrogated by the FBI & Dallas Police? Why permit Oswald to speak at a press conference? The motorcade route was planned out by the Secret Service on Nov 18th. [3]. How did the CIA control logistics to bring JFK under Oswald"s position? Was the Secret Service in on it? To get Oswald into position, they"d also need to direct his hiring at the Texas School Book Depository in Oct, contrary to the testimony of family friend Ruth Paine and Oswald"s boss Roy Truly. [4] Were they also conspirators? The strange mix of hyper-competency and ultra-bumbling extends to the choice of Ruby as well. Did they recruit Ruby ahead of time on the off chance they might need to infiltrate Dallas Police HQ? Or did they manage to coerce Ruby in the single hour between Oswald"s arrest and his first visit to HQ with a gun in his pocket? Seems like you"d want a dependable insider to bump off the patsy, not a speed-addicted pimp chatting with every reporter and cop he meets. Nor is a single shot to the gut a particularly reliable kill-shot, why didn't the CIA better train their assassin? Wouldn't the CIA need to kill Ruby as well? 4. Unlike Pro, I am fairly unimpressed by any large organization"s capacity to retain State secrets. Look at Watergate, the phony yellowcake uranium scam, the Manhattan project- secrets the executive branch was desperate to protect but which unraveled pretty quickly under pressure. NSA metadata surveillance is another good example. Soon after 9/11 it was public knowledge that the govt. was requesting access to most telecommunications databases as part of the Patriot Act"s terrorist surveillance program. [5]. By 2005, the New York Times was reporting widespread abuses of warrantless authority. [6] The public didn't appreciate the magnitude of the program until Snowden in 2013 but it certainly was not much of a secret. In my work as a Systems Administrator at Sun Microsystems, I helped build & maintain part of the infrastructure for this program in 2003 and was never asked to keep any secrets on the government"s behalf. Pro is wrong when he says I didn't know about govt. surveillance before Snowden- certainly, the telecommunications industry did. The fact that NSA surveillance continues today mostly unchallenged and unchanged suggests that the govt. never had much stake in keeping that particular secret anyway. Of the thousands of people who were interviewed or testified regarding the assassination, it"s fairly easy to assemble a list of people who died over the next 10 or 20 years: some lists are far more comprehensive. However superficially damning such lists may appear, closer inspection weakens the case. Shaw and Ruby died of lung cancer- how did the CIA pull that off? Why did the CIA wait for years or decades after testimony before faking suicides and car crashes? What could the showgirls have known to merit such carnage? Why kill witnesses who backed the Warren Commission's findings (like Bowers)? Fanboy needs some evidence: killers fleeing crime scenes, memos with CIA letterhead, something. The fact that some people fail to survive their natural lifespan is inevitable, not incriminating. 5. Sheer speculation. Kennedy tripled the number of US troops in Vietnam in "61 and again in "62. At the time of his death there were more than 16,000 American soldiers deployed. There"s no doubt that Kennedy was skeptical of a major escalation but he was also determined not to see South Vietnam collapse. The war was already underway and Kennedy had given the CIA a major role in its conduct. The trouble with Fanboy"s theory is that Johnson was no more hawkish on escalation than Kennedy. And military escalation meant a smaller role for the CIA. History records that the CIA and DoD were divided over full scale involvement in Southeast Asia. Why kill a president who was fairly well aligned with the CIA"s outlook in exchange for an unknown new dynamic? 6. What proof exists that photos of Oswald were altered? To what effect? What proof exists that the CIA did the altering? By her own testimony, Jackie Kennedy never left JFK"s casket alone from Parkland Hospital to Bethesda Naval Base. Was Jackie part of the plot? Why wouldn't soldiers at Walter Reed challenge an unauthorized helicopter carrying an unauthorized casket to an unauthorized autopsy? Was the Army in on it too? How does one surgically alter an exploded head?You can add new entry wounds but how do you remove the existing wounds? The attending surgical staff at Parkland never reported the alterations? Parkland coroner Earl Rose sat on the HSCA forensic board but never noticed the changes? 7. Beverly Oliver is far too young to credibly claim she was the Babushka Lady. Her original testimony was that the missing camera was a Yashica Super 8mm. Advised that model camera wasn't manufactured until 1969, she would later testify that she couldn't remember what kind of camera she used. Nor does Oliver's story implicate the CIA in any way. 8. If Pro is going to cite the HSCA to indict the CIA, he ought to include their unequivocal finding: "The Secret Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Central Intelligence Agency were not involved in the assassination of Kennedy." [7] 9. Argument #4 re-worded. See my response above. 10. No arguments made, no rebuttal required. (Refs in comments)