Abortion is wrong and bad

Introduction: I completely agree with Lydia about the labeling, I understand and unfalteringly respect what she says. Rebuttal of Argument 1: In this argument Lydia uses the usual idea that the fetus is a human being, “A form of human life, whether born, unborn, fetus, or not fetus, is still an individual human” and that, “he has equal rights, and he should be given a chance…” The average number of sperm, or spermatozoa, that are expelled in one male ejaculation, is 500 million. Each of these sperms is an individual life, each and every one has the chance to be born, “A form of human life, whether born, unborn… still an individual human. This is because size and/or stages in the terms of life are not accountable for whether the life form gets to live.” If we use the logic that Lydia proposed, then each and every one of these unborn, living sperm should have equal rights, and each and every unborn human “deserves to live his life just like you or me or anyone does,” If Lydia’s idea is to be preserved and used, it cannot be abandoned or else this logic is a fallacy, and Lydia would be a hypocrite. In order for Lydia to not be a hypocrite, Lydia would have to carry out her logic, and surgically remove one sperm, and directly insert that into the female egg, for every single couple ever that wants to have a child, in order for this logic to prevail. To abstain from murdering innocent human lives. Something is described as being something, if characteristics of that something match the characteristics of that other something. If I were to remove a human heart from a human body, could that something be described as human? Certainly not! Its cells still have human DNA, but holds little characteristics that a human possesses. If I were to remove a fetus from a pregnant mother, should this be described as human? Maybe twenty or so weeks in it could, but before that it does not. It does not have the characteristics that a human has at that point, so should not be described as human. It is not logical to say something is another thing, if it possesses little characteristics of thing. After this point, and the characteristics are met that render it a human, then it is a human. But this does not happen until far into the pregnancy, and personally, I do not believe that women should get pregnancies that far in. With these two rebuttals, I examined and showed what following through Lydia’s theory would actually look like, and argued that fetuses should not be thought of as a human. Rebuttal of Argument 2: In the beginning of the second argument, my opponent brings up numerous statistics of abortion which cannot be argued since they are fact. Later on Lydia brings up quotes to show that 20 weeks into the pregnancy, the baby feels pain and doing an abortion could hurt the child. Lydia continues on the premise of this thought. Lydia establishes that the child can feel pain, yet some types of abortion processes can be done so the baby feels no pain. If they don’t currently exist, they can be invented. This is not a valid argument. “A few of the most brutal--and common--versions of abortion are such as these:” Lydia then lists two different abortion techniques that are brutal. I would be fine with this except that she claimed that these were common, which they are not. Using the argument that some techniques of abortion can cause pain to the child, so abortion is bad, is not a valid argument, for it doesn’t account for techniques that don’t cause pain to the child. Saying that some dogs are bad, does not mean that all dogs are bad, similarly saying that some abortions are bad, doesn’t mean they are all bad. “This is completely false because of the potential and obvious life signs that the fetus/being shows” This adds to what I said in my first rebuttal, about the sperms. Rebuttal of Argument 3: In this argument, Lydia basically sites research about how abortions can cause cancer and how they are deadly. I will rebut this by showing how not having an abortion, and giving birth to a child is just as dangerous, if not more, than an abortion. “Every day, approximately 800 women die from preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.” (WHO Maternal mortality) Women giving birth usually die of severe bleeding usually after childbirth, infections, high blood pressure during pregnancy, or complications from delivery. Mortality is also much higher in teen pregnancies. “From 1990 to 2013, the global maternal mortality ratio declined by 45 per cent – from 380 deaths to 210 deaths per 100,000 live births, according to UN inter-agency estimates.” (UNICEF) Although the mortality rate is slowly decreasing, not having an abortion, and giving birth is equally dangerous. Abortions save mother’s lives. Counter Rebuttal 1: “Women DO have the right to have full control of their bodies, but they also have full control of their offsprings' bodies/lives.” Exactly, mother’s should have control of their offspring, and should choose to do what they want with them, according to you. “But we must ask, if the unborn baby could communicate and we would give it the choice to live or not, what do you think he would choose? The whole flaw in abortion is that your taking away the human beings right to living, and that fact cannot be escaped.” The baby might choose not to live, you cannot make unsubstantiated assumptions like this. Counter Rebuttal 2/3: “Where are the sources? There are options available besides killing the children.” My sources were in the comments and keeping the child, enduring the dangers of birth, and then give the child away to foster care where it takes up tax payer dollars, lives on welfare, and is most likely to be a criminal and danger to society. Conclusion: There was no way possible for me to post a response, I don’t think that I should be penalized for something that is not my fault. I have also not forfeited a round, I just couldn’t write a response, I am sorry, but personal matters sometimes interfere with debating. I look forward to the rest of the debate, good luck to you Lydia! Sources: http://data.unicef.org... http://www.who.int...