Resolved: Gay marriage would weaken the insitutuion of marriage

"It makes no sense whatsoever to say that being married will specifically make gays want to seek extra-marital partners."Here's clarification:1. the dutch study, where gay mariage is legal may I add, proved that gays cheat on eachother more when married than heterosexual people. That weakens the definintion of mariage as th epoint of mariage is to be monogomas. "While studies suggest gay couples have higher rates of promiscuity, we must consider several things. First, not all surveys are reliable considering people lie, and married people have an incentive to lie and undermine their cheating. "What is the point of lying when your spose never needto know. Also if that is true then the gays would lie too, and if they did they would have lower rates. Also oce again, what is the point of lying if the people won't even tell?"Finally, Pro's statistics may not be accurate. His source suggests that just 25% of married heterosexuals cheat. Meanwhile, other studies show that it can be up to 60% of couples and in fact are likely higher given high divorce rates"This is false because all divorce's don't mean they broke up because of cheating. That argument is a fallacy. Also your numbers are false:50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce [1]So first marriages have a 50% divorce rate. But other studies have different numbers:According to enrichment journal on the divorce rate in America: The divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41% The divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60% The divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73% [1]So your argument is false and only shows that ouple break up, but your studies are based of of sdtraight marriages, not gay ad straight together. "Due to character space limits, for now I will once again repeat that Pro must prove how this weakens the institution of marriage and will affect marriage in general."quite simple actually. When married if you get beaten it may end in divorce and marriage isn't about beatings in civilised countries. Beating your huband in this case is not a good thing in the name of marriage. "This is perhaps Pro's weakest contention. First, gays tend to kill themselves thanks in part to the unwarranted backlash they experience from the bigots in society who torture, bully and abuse them, or make them feel awkward, unloved or demented for absolutely no justifiable reason."I was expecting this argument, they have high suicide rates now and people are more open to them than ever. I don't hat or dislike them, I just want to spread facts. Also it is well known that gays have higher substance abuse, and that leads to higher suicide rates: Alcoholism and suicide often go hand in hand. Alcoholics are prodded to suicidal behavior and even people who don't normally drink will often ingest alcohol shortly before killing themselves. [2]In 2008 only 1617 ate crimes occured.58.6 percent were classified as anti-male homosexual bias. [3]Also suicide rates are linked to socialpolitical areas, not hate speech and abuse:CHICAGO -- Suicide attempts by gay teens – and even straight kids – are more common in politically conservative areas where schools don't have programs supporting gay rights, a study involving nearly 32,000 high school students found.[4]So it's not really hate hurting them but being ignored. And much of America is liberal so in that case they should have better suicide rates, and this affects straight men too. SO your argument here to is a fallacy. You try to like correlation, but it has not been proven causation. "depict gays as mentally unstable. "I like gays (not in that way) and there nice people. But those are just the facts. "We've already addressed all of these points."Not really you haven't when I add on to my arguments I will add more on though. =)"This argument is hilarious and non-sensical. How does same-sex registered partnerships relate to a sharp rise in out-of-wedlock births?!"I my source was working it would be easier to understand. Hut this PHD proves that it does that because allowing gay marriage changes the social outlook. "Before I respond to this, I want to see the proof."Already did, but will do it again. (so it works)."Irrelevant"Agreed I was gonna edit it out but then you accepted. "I think that's Pro's point...? I invite Pro to detail the benefits of marriage, and then I will explain exactly how and why homosexuals can experience the same benefits."I will show evidence later, but you haven't provided prof at all for your side. "Pro's main source is Conservapedia"Don't let one mal source ruin the debate. It wasn't my main one either as when I used it I used other sources to back it up. "The Family Research Council to make his case, which is a conservative, right-wing Christian group"really? last time I checked it had sources within it's sources. And the sources it had where totally good and credible."specific perspective using a lot of propaganda."I do not see how facts are propaganda. C1: gays cheat on each other more:I am low on spacse so these add ons will be short. A federally-funded study by San Francisco State University that followed 556 local male couples for three years found that half “have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners,” [5]The study, to be completed this month by the State University’s Center for Research on Gender and Sexuality, is even leading “some experts” to the conclusion that “boundary-challenging gay relationships represent an evolution in marriage — one that might point the way for the survival of the institution,” the newspaper reports. [5]saying that this needs to be stopped to fix the institution. C2: gays are more violent to each other.I am using a LIBERAL source here. Domestic abuse occurs in approximately 30 to 40% of GLBT relationships, which is the same percentage of violence that occurs in straight relationships. It is a myth that same-sex couples don't batter each other, or if they do; they are just "fighting" or it is "mutual abuse". [6]Domestic abuse is always about power and control. One partner intentionally gains more and more power over his/ her partner. Tactics can include physical, emotional or verbal abuse, isolation, threats, intimidation, minimizing, denying, blaming, coercion, financial abuse, or using children or pets to control your behavior. [6]3why is it purple!C3: Gays have a higher risk of suicide"The conclusion can be drawn from all the quoted studies that homosexual and bisexual adolescents are exposed to a higher suicide risk than heterosexual men and women," the study's author Christian Leu told swissinfo.ch in an email interview. [7]and this source says that it is because of bullying, which is false. (the people saying that are more biased than my sources)Have no more room to add on. Conclusion:allowing gay marriage would weaken the insitution of marriage d although the BOP is shared you have offered no evidence. Also you have no contentions proving how it would benefit society, so you are not fulfilling your BOP as I have stated in the first round. All you have done successfully is criticize one of my sources. You need a case (like C1, C2) before you fit the BOP. I hopw you do this next round so that you fit the BOP and then we can continue. I await your response.sources:http://www.healthyplace.com... [2]http://gaylife.about.com... [3]http://www.huffingtonpost.com... [4]http://www.newsmax.com... [5]http://www.rainbowdomesticviolence.itgo.com... [6]http://www.swissinfo.ch... [7]