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Humans can achieve a Godly state.

Assuming we both understand supernal to be supernatural: 1.) The New Testament --Humans have the ability to be all-knowing and supernal. [sic]-- Let's break this down. I am arguing the 'ability' to be able to manifest these states at least temporarily, if not at the same time then separately. My opponent has already expressed his acceptation of the fact that Jesus was in fact supernal, as we both recognize his connection to the Father. --To (fulfill) the debate we must show that humans can be all-knowing AND super natural and Jesus wasn't all-knowing. [sic]-- I will add that Jesus has the ability to be all-knowing in that he is directly a part of or connected to the Father, the all-knowing source. Whether he was all-knowing or not is not to say the ability was nonexistent. Many have made the connection between the christianized Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to be directly comparable with the buddhist Mind, Body, and Soul. Both paths recognize the inherent human connection with the Spirit, or the Soul - meaning the source of all possible knowledge. One cannot deny the possibility of infinite knowledge, as the mind is already infinite. 2.) The Buddha 'Supernatural' means an event or manifestation beyond scientific analysis. The term exists to explain events beyond logical analysis. There are many, many cases of human experiences generally classified as 'strange experiences' that are unexplainable, thus classified as supernatural. 'All-knowing' is synonymous to the term 'omniscience' -defined as the capacity to know everything infinitely. In Latin, omnis means "all" and sciens means "knowing". According to Therevaada tradition, the Buddha in omniscient in the sense that all knowable things are 'potentially' accessible to him. This expresses the ability to become all-knowing. As far as science is concerned, the brain can never reach a state of fullness, and is open to an infinite ideas, thus the fact that any human has the ability to become all-knowing.
Humans can achieve a Godly state.

1) The New TestamentThe New Testament can be considered as a story, a myth or legend if you will. Since the Bible and the New Testament aren't accepted as fact by the scientific communities in the world it cannot be used to prove that humans have achieved a godly state. If you can use the New Testament as basis for this argument then one could also use Hercules and other half gods from Greek mythology.Also, if we look at the original resolution set up in the First Round we see this:Humans have the ability to be all-knowing and supernal. [sic]To fufil the debate we must show that humans can be all-knowing AND super natural and Jesus wasn't all-knowing."No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." - Matthew 24:36So while there is loose, non scientific, evidence that Jesus could have been supernatural - using the same evidence we know that he was not all-knowing.2) The Buddha First off, enlightenment does not equal supernatural. Being enlightened is far from being supernatural. Also, just because these Paths are "synonymous" with a divine state does not mean they include a divine state. The Buddha may have created a way to enlighten human kind but that does not make him divine. Indeed, the stories of the Buddha again can be classified as myth or legend and cannot be used to definitively say that man achieved godhood or a divine state. Again, the Buddha is just the character in a legend much like King Arthur was. The Buddha was real but his exploits have been exaggerated over time. Also, my opponent has failed to fulfil his own debate parameters by failing to show how either Jesus or the Buddha are both supernatural and all-knowing. We have proof that Jesus was no all-knowing and the exploits of both these men can be and have been classified by myth or legend and are not accepted by the world at large as truth.Thank you.
Humans can achieve a Godly state.

Humans can achieve a god like state as depicted by the definition of all-knowing or supernal state of being, if not permanently then temporarily. This, to me, is immediately relevant in two major cases which i'll briefly discuss: 1.) The New Testament I believe that we all can recognize that, as the story has it, Jesus Christ himself was indeed a human. Jesus was presented with a variety of archetypical human experiences including birth, pain, injury, suffering, and death. Jesus was a facilitator of a certain doctrine amongst his disciples. The bible makes it clear that Jesus was divine, yet human. Jesus was said to have walked the Earth amongst many people and throughout his missions displayed great acts of divine knowledge, such as healing the blind, parting the red sea, turning water into wine, predicting future acts of his disciples, and so on. 2.) The Buddha Gautama Buddha was a spiritual teacher from India who essentially founded the study of Buddhism. He facilitated a series of paths that one could follow to attain a human state of 'enlightenment,' which is synonymous to the idea of the godhead or divine state. "The Four Noble Truths:" claiming that suffering is a human trait; that the origin of suffering is desire; that suffering can be ended through following the Noble Eightfold Path. From wiki - "Traditional biographies of Gautama generally include numerous miracles, omens, and supernatural events." The Mahāvastu depicts Gautama as one with supernatural abilities as he displays no need for sleep, food, medicine, or bathing, omniscience, and the ability to "suppress karma" or essentially alter fate. Gautama recognized meditation to be the main way to quiet the mind to prepare it to enter the world of the divine. Gautama, although human, has been widely accepted as a man of divinity, or one that achieves godly states. Though the processes by which one might attain such states are questionable, the evidence is available that such a claim is valid.
Humans can achieve a Godly state.

The Mind Is InfiniteYour assumption is based soley on the universe we can percieve with our 5 senses. The human mind does live in the jail and the bars are our senses. We cannot percieve anything outside of sight, feeling, smell, hearing or taste. There could be universes out there that aren't perceptable to our five senses that we will NEVER know about because of our senses. It it naive to think that we are all-knowing because we cannot know what lies outside of our realm, our universe and our senses and there will never be a way for us to know that. Even if we discover the entirety of our universe we will never know if there is something that lies beyond it due to our senses. There does exist knowledge outside of humans. If humanity didn't exist the universe would endure on with infinite amounts of things to know and learn. In fact there might even be other intelligent life out there that we don't know about harvesting their own knowledge so your argument really holds no water. A Supernatural State The human mind occurs naturally in nature therefore it is silly to think that it is beyond nature as the word supernatural implies. The mind is a series of tissues that carry electrical signals which when patterned correctly can be manipulated into thoughts and actions. This is explainable. This is natural. All minds work like this. To say that no other animals have minds like ours is silly to think. Do dolphins not have families? Don't ducks mate for life? These are things that occur in nature and therefore cannot be considered supernatural.I have successfully refuted all of your arguments and have proved that:a) there are no 100% belieable instances of man becoming supernalb) the human mind is finite and limited by natural meansc) knowledge does not hinge upon humanity alone and therefore isn't contained soley in humansd) humans cannot be all knowinge) humans cannot become supernatural or supernalThank you. Welcome to DDO.
Humans can achieve a Godly state.

1.) The mind is infinite: To think that the mind is finite, is like choosing to live in jail. Humans have the ability to produce any thought possible. The human mind knows about every single thing that exists in this life. Knowledge is a specific trait to humans, therefore all knowledge can be attributed the the human mind. When one looks into the stars, out at the universe - these labels like 'stars' and 'universe' have no real meaning, these labels are just an object of communication between ourselves and other humans. We see, feel, and experience everything that there is in life, and that IS all. We understand when staring into the night sky that there is no end to the universe, there is no end to the mind. There exists no knowledge outside of the human mind, thus the human mind is all-knowing. It is not a matter of 'becoming' all-knowing, but realizing the inherent ability that already exists within the mind. 2.) A supernatural state: Again, as far as all evidence points, a supernatural event can only occur within the human mind. There exists nothing supernatural outside of the human mind, thus all claims of 'supernatural' events taking place did so in the mind. The term itself only comes from the experiences that define it. How would it be possible for any other being that we are aware of, to achieve and experience a supernatural state of mind? The name in itself is misleading - 'supernatural' just refers to an experience that is unexplainable by analytical science. Super, meaning beyond - and natural, meaning 'of nature'. Nature is entirely physical up until the mind, then it becomes beyond nature, or supernatural. We know plenty of experience reports of supernatural states of mind and do not refuse to acknowledge the existence of the human supernatural experience. The human mind is supernatural. Humans are all knowing and supernatural, therefore - Humans do indeed have the ability to be all knowing and supernatural.
the christian trinity is an illogical idea

Heard of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde[http://www.sparknotes.com...] or maybe Dissociative Identity Disorder?[http://www.webmd.com...]I guess not.Point is, things can alter form or parts of themselves while having the basic essence of what they are maintained as a constant between them.Pro had full burden of proof and has yet to supply anything substantial in support of the resolution let alone to disprove my own case against it.
the christian trinity is an illogical idea

Pro has yet to offer a single point of substance to meet their own burden of proof. As for their rebuttals to me, they are nonsensical at best.I explained that the same body can have varying personalities/identities while still being a constant amongst all 3. I also explained how altering the form of something doesn't mean that the essence of what that thing is has to change.Neither has been countered by Pro and their Wikipedia link doesn't prove anything other than my very own case. Yes, that's right, their source supports my case.I never said that 2 + 4 =/= 5 + 1 and Pro has yet to explain how this analogy is a valid display of what I am stating,In actual fact it is Pro who is stating that since 2+4(holy ghost) is not the same in appearance as 5+1(Jesus) they cannot represent the same thing (6/god).
the christian trinity is an illogical idea

con says it can be understood with teh water anaology but hten has to resort to extra dimensions and such to explain it. we can't describe extra dimensions anyway because it is beyond us to graph. in any rate, con's arguments have been tried and found heretical. modalism aka https://en.wikipedia.org...con just says with his beginning remarks, hte split personality remarks, and the water remarks, that the 'person' is always the same, they just change form or modes. this runs afoul of the fact that each person has to be a distinct idenity. a betteranalogy would be that there is one constant of liquid but each substance is different, water, mercury etc. but this even fails cause they are not suppose to be constant of liquid, it's just changing modes.if we looked at it like math.... five plus one is six, four plus two is six. the truth is they both equal six and thus equal each other, but the trinity is like saying five plus one does NOT equal four plus two. con is saying that because they are all six, but look different cause of different number combinations, that this makes it okay, an apt comparison. but it doesn't cause fou plus two is just a different mode than five plus one.... but they are both six and equal each other.
the christian trinity is an illogical idea

Consider this:God's physical form was as Jesus Christ "the son". His 'true form' was raw invisible power with none of the human 5 senses being able to detect or appreciate it so the power transformed into a human but had to do so by beginning as a baby and growing itself up to adulthood before people would listen so he uses his powers to alter Mary's egg and have a baby with her without needing sex because he's all powerful and can bypass it (he invented the need for sex after all).When his human form dies, he has to come back to finalize the message and leave a true impact in the people's minds to understand his power was not fake or imagined but very supernatural and very real (the holy ghost form). These two forms of him are nothing compared to the third invisible untouchable form that is the 'father' form as the name suggest it is the alpha and superior form. According to Pro, if a person has split personality disorder or the ability to change forms physically but not mentally both of these mean that the individual themselves cannot be constant whilst the variables are altered into their distinct forms.This is very untrue.Think of it like ice, vapor and liquid water. It's still H2O but there are distinct forms of it.If you read this link: http://www.everystudent.com... will see how the 'spirit' or 'core force' of god is singular but because it exists outside of reality and is not restrained by our dimensions and rules, it can take 3 forms with ease while maintaining itself as a constant amongst all 3.I conclude that the trinity is logical as long as god itself is considered logical.
America dependance on foreign oil

"they need to stop letting the gas companies run the country" Heh, they only control you if you let them control you. I only let the gas prices become part of my income. If the gas in expensive, I don't care. If it is cheap, I don't care. They don't run the country. The government does. And just because they influence the gas prices, does not mean that the gas companies control us. "stop procrastinating and research alternate energy forms" Don't worry, we are safe. Just because we are not does not mean other countries are not. I know that England has battery and solar powered cars in certain parts of London. I actually think that we must be dependent on oil. We can't really stop that until a later stage. "there wont be any wars over oil" Iraq is not an oil War. It is a wrong war, but not an oil War. It is a War on a terror created by the government. Oil is only part of the benefits. Plus, if it was an oil War, that would mean we are trying to make foreign oil ours so we don't become dependent on foreign oil, which is what you don't want.
KostasT.1526 should be boiled alive

Hello My opponent suggests that I get boiled alive and roasted and grilled until we both die (be boiled alive? That sounds bad. I wouldn't like that. ) I do not know about them, but for me it will probably be impossible, as I will die within the first few minutes of boiling. I would not like me getting thrown away after getting grilled, but I recommend my opponent settles their appetite with some other kind of roasted and grilled meat, if they insist on boiling me first but still wish that I am alive while being roasted and grilled. I do not think I would taste good after boiling anyway. I stick to my advice that my opponent does not create racist debates, for they have no basis in reality. Japanese, for example, are wonderful people. Below, I quote JimShady from their debate "Japanese Chinks should not be able to continue living" as Con: "Japanese people have a right to exist because all men and women were created equal and have an unalienable right to life. Although they might have done some mad things to China and America back in WWII, there race has come a long way. They are generally very nice people, hard workers, team players, and all that good stuff. There contributions to the world include Zen Buddhism, martial arts, karaoke, Japanese food, manga, anime, Nintendo, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan, and a lot of stuff that weeaboos like. " . http://www.debate.org... "I feel like this user should be boiled alive. .. ." Inflicting serious traumas because one feels like it is considered an immoral action. Perhaps my opponent would like to debate whether that can be an ethical thing to do or not? If they do, I am interested. ". .. .because his smaller 15 yr old Japanese chink brain is too small for our overly growing world" Oh my, so many mistakes in such a short phrase. Let's see: 1. Smaller brain. .. smaller than what? When adding -er to an adjective, you compare the term it describes with something else. Apparently, my brain is indeed way smaller than Jupiter. Am I supposed to be offended by that? 2. Unfortunately for my opponent, I am neither Japanese nor a "chink". I am from Greece, Athens, though I would love to visit countries such as Japan 🗾, Britain 💂, Switzerland etc. 3. My opponent hypothesises the size of my brain. He has not provided any proof, and therefore their claim is ignored. 4. I choose to not mention all the mistakes made concerning grammar, vocabulary and so on. I hope my opponent is able to identify them on their own. My opponent fails to explain why do they believe that my parents want me dead. Even statistically, the probabilities are almost nullified. I shall take that as an assumption. My opponent does not consider me an American white man. Well, they are right, for, although I am a white male, I am not American, as said above. In fact, I do not even like America. Truth is, I love ramen noodles, and so I am always careful not to spill the water for the cooking on nearby newborn babies, as a matter of fact. Furthermore, the death penalty has been abolished in my country, and hence I unfortunately am not going to get boiled alive (😢).
KostasT.1526 should be boiled alive

I feel like this user should be boiled alive, because his smaller 15 yr old Japanese chink brain is too small for our overly growing world. he chooses to tell me to "refrain" from making anymore of my arguments. So in turn, he will be roasted, and grilled until the day we both die. I solidly wish for this boy to be boiled alive because his parents probably want that as well, so i would OBVIOUSLY be doing a favor for them. I do not consider this smaller boy an "american white man" because he chooses to act as if he is a Japanese CHINK. I wish the worst for this kid and i hope the next time he makes ramen noodles, he spills them all over a new born baby, giving the baby 3rd degree burns. so the states in which he lives in, will give him the death penalty, death by being boiled alive. Thank you.
the usa will be socialist by 2100

You have neglected to provide any actual argument or justification. For the assertion "the usa will be socialist by 2100". I mean, I'd like to see you provide evidence that any current political conceptualization will be around by that time. I'm not convinced you even understand what socialism is, Yet you incorporate it as vernacular. You're doing a tremendous disservice to people who spend their lives studying these types of things. My assertion still stands, Without evidence, As he has provided no justification for his own position or rebuttal to mine.
the usa will be socialist by 2100

Thank you for accepting the challenge, And you may well be right. I f you have ever watched old 70s distopian movies like Mad Max escape from new york, Or a boy in his dog. . Well there is your anarchy lawless survival of the fittest, And yes we may well epxerience that if society breaks down. . If and when society returns civilization is re established it wiull be socialist because people will want order they will want basic needs met and they will want security, Demographics point to stronger appeal of leftist values after capitalism finally breaks down china will still have order and we may very well prevail, I think our victory is not certain, But it looks stronger and more probably than any other scenario
That we should tax religions.

Today, I am proud to propose the topic 'That we should tax religions'. I wish to represent the PRO side. We will argue that religions should be taxed. I expect that my opponent on the CON side will argue that religions should continue to have a tax-exempt status. ==DEFINITIONS== 'We'- America 'Religions'- Organizations that preach about the role of deities [1]. 'Tax'- A government placing a debt onto an individual or company to raise revenue [2]. My model will be as follows: • Religions will be taxed in line with ordinary tax rates for businesses and • Charitable work completed by religions will be tax-exempt. I recognize that as instigator I hold the burden of proof. For this reason, I ask my opponent not to begin his argument until round two. This debate will have four rounds. I thank my opponent in advance and look forward to this debate. http://www.thefreedictionary.com... http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
where are the real republicans

As one sits back today and watches our so called Republican Party sell our nation down the river we as American citizens and Republicans just sit back and let this garbage continue. How is it possible to call john mccain a republican? he is a socialist are the American people so blind It seems as though the party has tucked there tail between there legs and ran. Do the Republicans have any guts? To me it seems as though they do not they would rather let communism to re-enter this country hell while you are at it you might as well just take the big leap and vote for the extreme communist CLINTON it is time for the party to stand up for what they truely belive in I dont give a damn about the whole war hero thing so what that does not give you a pass to the white house. Keep being stupid america where going to kill ourselves at this rate