The Trinity

1)The church understands the Trinity in their Christian worship: Glory to the Father through the Son in the Holy SpiritFor through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father ( Ephesians 2:8 ESV). The only way to understand the immanent Trinity is to experience the economic Trinity:Immanent Trinity: the relationship of the three to each other."No one has ever seen God yet: the only-offspring who is God by nature;being in the bosom of the Father; this [one] he did show." ( John 1:18) "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." ( Matthew 28:19 NIV)Economic Trinity: the relationship of the three to the world they created."Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him." ( John 14:23 NASB)2) In the Christian Scriptures, these are evident: theos (anarthrous: divine, God's nature, as a title: god, God)ho theos ( the God)- title of the LORD [i.e. YHWH].https://sites.google.com...http://www.christiandefense.org...http://biblehub.com...Jesus Christ claimed to be "theos" in the sense of having God's nature in John 10:30-33.His disciple believe ( John 1:1, Philippians 2:6, Colossians 2:9, Hebrews 1:3).3)John 10:30-38 [ Jesus Christ claimed to be God ]Here's the context: >John 10:28 The Son has the ability to keep his saints in his hand>John 10:29 the Father has the ability to keep his saints in his handNote: The phrase " no one will snatch them out of my hand" is in the Septuagint of Deuteronomy 32:39. It is clearly a divine attribute.>John 10:30 The Son said that he and the Father are one[in ability to keep their saints in their hands].Note: The context is clear that the Son is claiming oneness with the Father in regards to the divine attribute of immutability, impeccability and omnipotence. Jesus is basically saying that he as the Son is one with the Father in nature.John 10:31 The Jews picked up stones to kill Jesus.John 10:32 Jesus responded.He said that he did many good works from the Father and asked the Jews for which of these do they stone him. Jesus made a question to reveal his identity.Note: >In John 10:25, Jesus said: “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me." So, basically, Jesus is asking the Jews in order to reveal his identity to them.>John 10:33 The Jews responded. They said that they are not going to kill him for the good works Jesus did but because of Jesus' blasphemy for he, existing as a human, claims to be God. Note: Blasphemy ( Greek: blasphemos, to speak evil). Based on context, Jesus is disobeying Leviticus 24:16 because he took the name ( the character, nature and identity) of the LORD God in evil by claiming to be God because he is human not God [ based on the belief of the Jews]. >John 10:34 Jesus defended his claim via a question from the OT Scripture( Psalm 82:6 LXX): “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’? [Jesus is asking the Jews in order to defend his identity to them which they have understood].>John 10:35 Done quoting the scripture for defense, Jesus now elucidates what it means. It means that if God calls humans "gods" ( gods by function: through whom the word of God came) and that's inffalible.>John 10:36 Jesus asked: do you say of Him, whom the Father has set apart and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? [Jesus is asking the Jews in order to defend his identity to them which they have understood]. Note: Jesus is equating his claim of godhood to sonship because contextually, his godhood is explianed by his being a Son. >John 10:37 Jesus said that his works testifies that he is telling the truth, that he is one with the Father by virtue of ebing the Son i.e. that he claimed to be God by nature and hence, God in identity. This is evident in John 10:25 and John 10:32. Jesus is asking the Jews in order to reveal his identity to them.>John 10:38 Jesus said that if he does the works, then even if they don't believe* in his revelation of his identity, let them rather believe the works so that you may know that the Father and I are in unity [of nature].Note: The Jews did not believe* and this means they understood the claim of Jesus. Understand the claim: disbelieve the claim ( John 10:33)Believe the works: understand the claim ( John 10:38)4)Matthew 26:36-42, Matthew 27:45-46, Luke 23:34 all of these verses explicate these biblical truths: The Son has no authority on his own ( Matthew 28:19) and this proves that he is the Son but his sonship also proves his godhood ( Phil. 2:6, Heb.1:3, John 1:1).It also proves the fact of the Incarnation, that Jesus has two wills and two minds because he has two natures ( Colossians 2:9, John 1:14). The Son is always not equal to the Father in authority ( John 5:19) but he is always equal to the Father in nature ( Johnh 5:18,Philippians 2:6).5)Con has misunderstood the Trinity doctrine:The Father , Son and Holy Spirit are three persons NOT three gods. Person:the set of consciousness, volition and emotion with aseity.God: the title or nature of the LORDThe Father= the person who is the "only true God" ( John 17:3) against those fake gods who "aren't gods by nature" based on Galatians 4:8.The Son= equally shares the Father's title of" God' because he is the "sophia theou" ( Wisdom of God) based on 1 Corinthians 1:24.The Holy Spirit =equally shares the Father and the Son's title of "God" because he is the "pneumatos" ( breath, life, spirit) of them based on John 15:26 & John 20:22.The relationship of the three shows that the three are one God not three gods. The other two persons are in the being of the Father that's why no second god or third god exists but only one. Matthew 28:19 shows that there are three persons who has the one name of "the LORD" ( YHWH, ho Kyrios -- based on context: Ha Shem; the Name: Leviticus 24:16).F = God - ONES= God - wisdom of GodHS= God - spirit of God6) Con is oblivious about the Incarnation:The Word was God - John 1:1The Word became flesh - John 1:14Jesus wasn't only human by nature. In him dwells all the fulness of deity bodily based on Colossians 2:9.7)Con said: Is the son of a Doctor automatically a doctor?Is the son of a murderer automatically a murderer?The son of the King is a Prince, not the king. There is a clear distinction.Response: Con confuses appelations to quality. I am referring to the essence of a subsistence NOT the function. Therefore, Con's argument is null and void. To avoid any nuances. Here's the substance of my argument in such a way that is explicit: The son of a human is human [by nature]The offspring of an animal is an animal [by nature]The Son of God is God [by nature]Con said that all humans are gods by nature. The burden of proof is on him. The Bible never speaks of humans as equal to God in nature and only Jesus did claim to be so ( John 5:18).8) I extend my argument because Con simply did not refute my argument: Both Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor 16:1-2 ( First century reliable documents) show that First Century Christians worships God on the first day of the Week (i.e. Sunday)."