Is Torture Something We Should Practice

Are you speaking of your own personal experiences on this matter? Or Theoretically?The inevitable death of all humans is ironic in the fact that we as humans celebrate so much. No possible thing that you do can keep your physical body from dying and decaying afterward. What happens to your soul afterward should be scheduled for a different debate. We have spoken before on the disassociation, and dissociative disorders but I would like to repeat it here for other viewing this debate. Can torture lead to dissociate personality disorders in their perpetrators? Yes they can. But does a fire fighter still break a window to save a child? The window is inanimate and has no feelings. But we aren't referring to random mutilation of unknown persons. We are speaking of the treatment of people who have made a conscious decision to act and live immorally. Their feelings and thoughts are not known to those of us who believe in the goodness of humanity. Without proper training, those of us who do believe in the goodness of humanity tend to project our own opinions as the opinions of those who are around us. Well even those who don't believe in goodness project their opinions as being the same as those around them. Heck, the first rule of becoming successful is to surround yourself with people who act how you want to act so you can learn to think how they think and then make similar decisions on your own. Death is the result of war. Death comes by an unknown number means including ones that are slow and painful. What's that old saying of Patton? "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." There are those of us who have accepted this challenge and agreed that we will do whatever it takes to make the other poor bastards die for their country through whatever means necessary. Why have we done this? or rather Why have I done it?Because I believe that these people will kill whoever they please. They will find targets to destroy just for the sake of finding targets. If I train to fight them and challenge them, their mind is not capable of diverting their attention back to random killing. This is something that I have always found puzzling about the way the criminal mind works. In cartoons like the Thundercats, Mum-ra is initially set on ruling the world, but in the end his whole focus is on defeating the Thundercats. Does he ever rule the world? No. Does he ever beat the Thundercats? No. Does any villain ever beat the hero? No they don't. They can't. Even though they have all of the tools and abilities to utterly destroy good, they won't because it would negate their purpose. The problem with heroes is that as soon as they neutralize the threat, they stop fighting. The good has the ability to utterly annihilate their opponent and they don't do it.Call me a Mongolian if you want, but God called the Israelites to utterly destroy their enemies. He didn't even want them to keep their livestock. Why is that? I think it has to do with the human condition that somehow empathy leads to bitterness and regret. Having the enemies cattle would just be a reminder of the lives that could have been lived. But the problem with that is you never know which person you save either will or won't have the constitution to grow up and seek revenge. Consider Attila the Hun for that matter, he was spared in battle as a child, learned the ways of the Muslims, then grew up and slaughtered them by the thousands. I'm sorry if I got off topic in the previous statements, but my purpose is to debate the nature of humanity in war and how it applies to innocent people vs. warriors. Interrogation only works if you can outwit the victim. I think we both agree that neither the criminal, nor the militant are just willing to give up their information. But I do think we can agree that the threshold is different. What kind of mind do you have to have to outwit a bully who would kill without provocation? Bullies certainly don't respond to the appeal of authority, or kindness. It's actually unfortunate that there are these people in this world who still have such a primitive mind, but when the use of breaking pain thresholds is the only way to get other to respond to our requests, it becomes necessary. If a person doesn't respond to normal interrogation, I think it's safe to assume that person no longer contains the essence of morality that seprates humans from animals.