L-M Classic: Clockwork v. Mongoose

I would like to knowledge that I, never having seen either of the Men in Black movies, misunderstood the nature of the neuralizer, and thus, through my rudimentary etymological knowledge, misunderstood it to be a chemical agent as opposed to a visual light that erases memory. However, the nature of the neuralizer actually makes for an easier Team Clockwork victory. Firstly, Darkseid and Apocalypse possess highly developed psychic powers and all attempted alterations or assaults on their minds have failed miserably, even when psychics such as Jean Grey (. http://en.wikipedia.org...) and Professor X (. http://en.wikipedia.org...) against Apocalypse, have failed miserably. With such strong defenses against mind manipulation, the neuralyzer would fail to work against Darkseid and Apocalypse. That still doesn't stand as the only obstacle in my opponent's strategy. (. http://stubbornfacts.wordpress.com...) "Once the neuralizer has flashed there is a window of around 30 seconds in which an official can verbally tell the spectator what they have missed. Therefore, in doing this they can set up a false memory of what happened in the time that was erased. " If Team Mongoose's plan is to work, they must immediately deploy the neuralizer, and Agent K must be able to get to the opposite side of NYC and tell my team that they are tourists returning to Mexico. NYC is obviously of a considerable length, and Agent K does not know where my team members are. The very idea that he could manage to accomplish the strategy contradicts common sense. We must assume that the neuralizer is set to erase several hours (or perhaps a day or two) of my susceptible team member's memories, as that is what it was set to in the movies (assuming we couldn't have the entire NYC population with a lifetime's worth of memories gone) and because there is no prep time during which the period of the memory wipe could be changed. Darkseid and Apocalypse could easily ask Hiro to stop time and could then clue the neuralized members in before proceeding as above. Even if we incorrectly assume that all five members have their memories wiped, if a mass of enemies come in attacking Team Clockwork, they would obviously respond to such attacks and Team Mongoose would be easily decimated as already demonstrated. CONCERNING HIRO'S POWERS "I would think that this would make it easier for him to mess up, because it is harder to do. Also, just because you do something twice without fail does not mean that you can do it all the time without fail. " Hiro's powers very in difficulty, with the list from easiest to hardest being (judging by TV series): -Area-specific time manipulation -Stopping time -Stopping time, with others chosen to be left out of the time-stop -Teleportation -Teleportation with others included -Time travel -Time travel with others included Hiro is least likely to falter when dealing with the lesser powers, and when he does falter, the effects are usually related to the lesser powers. If Hiro can teleport twice without problems, it can be reasonably assumed that he can also stop time with little mishap, especially considering that Hiro has never faltered in the way that you implied within the span of the series. His accidental screw-ups, to my knowledge, have never been extended to effect other people. CONCERNING MASTER HAND'S POWERS "See Video 1? He brought Yoshi to life. " Very well, but because Yoshi (and presumably all the other playable SSB characters) moved around after reanimation of their own accord, we must assume that they do in fact have brains (in contrast with your previous argument) and we return to the strategy where Darkseid or Apocalypse mind-control your reanimated Supermen, using Kryptonite from the Oan ring simulations or The Green Arrow's arrows to level off any remaining Supermen, although it is an unsupported stretch to assume that any toy store would have over three million Superman toys in stock. My opponent claims that Master Hand can hide inside of and shoot lasers through solid objects. Though this canonically-unsupported argument is easily attributed to an effect known as "polygon prioritization" and is easily recognized by anyone who programs or plays video games, Master Hand could still easily be eliminated once located, as The Omega Effect can travel through matter. IN RESPONSE: "You are not allowed to teleport members outside of New York City. " Although you failed to provide a source, and I can't find anything close to this in the rules, I'll let it slide; most of my other strategies have yet to be adequately refuted. "As for Ganondorf's teleportation, it can let him escape his opponents if they find him. " This is easily countered in a number of ways; The Green Lantern could scan NYC again to locate Ganon, after which he would be aerial-bombed by Apocalypse or remote-attacked by Darkseid's Omega Effect. Running away endlessly isn't a likely way to do any damage against my teammates, either. "Also, the Omega Effect wouldn't work on Ganondorf, as you must defeat him with the Master Sword. " Incorrect; although my team would, as already stated, have little trouble finding the Master Sword by means of the Book of Oa or by aerial view. I only need the Master Sword if I wish to KILL Ganondorf; the Omega Effect would eliminate Ganon from existence. CONCLUSION UTW debates involve both Pro and Con making the positive prima facie statement that their team can defeat their opponent's team; thus, the burden of proof lies on both participants to prove that claim. The majority of my opponent's arguments fail to prove anything. His arguments are stretched to the possibility of chance by fault of his weak arguments. Such arguments include "Hiro might mess up the time stop" and "Agent K might be able to push the button before Hiro stops time". However, this is a debate and not a roulette table; my opponent must show why his team WILL win, instead of why his team MIGHT win. His two arguments that didn't involve ridiculous stretches of luck have been conclusively negated. My opponent has pushed these barriers throughout the debate, often contradicting himself in the process. He has failed to show how a team which is (physically) dependent on Master Hand and Ganondorf can defeat such titans such as Apocalypse and Darkseid. Apocalypse alone has surpassed the powers of the Harbinger (. http://en.wikipedia.org...), who was able to defend himself against Cable and the Avengers at the same time. Darkseid has bested Superman by a long shot time and time again. The two giants together could easily combine their powers to eliminate the weak (see opponent's video) Master Hand and find the Master Sword to defeat Ganon, and my opponent has thus far dedicated zero time to arguing otherwise. The burden of poof has failed to be satisfied by my opponent, and the arguments that have stood have been hopelessly refuted. The outcome of this battle is clear; vote Pro. Thank you.