Abortion should be illegal

Sorry, I don't have much time to make an argument, so I may not be able to adress all the things you said in round 2. "Abortions only happen to FETUSES which do not have rights. . . I would argue that too... if fetuses were human beings... . . . Why isn't abortion evil? Because it isn't murder. . . abortion is not murder. . . abortion is not murder and therefore not immoral." As you've stated numerous times, you don't believe that life begins at conception. A simple google search of "definition of life" will result in it saying, "The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproductiion, functional activity, and continual change preceding death." (Search "definition of life" in Google) Let's think about this definition... newly conceived babies have the capacity for growth, and they in fact do grow very quicly during pregnancy. In later years, they will be able to reproduce which means they have the capacity for it. They can function and do things like move around in the womb. They are continually changing during pregnancy too. They check all the boxes for life right at conception, which means that they in fact are living. I hope that gets things cleared up since your whole argument is based on the foundation that fetuses are NOT living. (In your rebuttal, please state exactly when you do think life begins so I can counter it in more detail.) That covers most of your argument, but I will still counter some other, more minor, points that you made. "The argument is based on the idea that one should never have... unless they want children which implies... is only for procreation." Yes, lying with a man is for having kids. That is why God made it possible in the first place, but this is a minor point and we can discuss it in greater detail in a different debate. "I would also like to add that in many places where there are high rates of abortion, they are of low economic situations and because they don't have adequate access to proper contraception they get pregnant." If they can't support a child financially or don't want one, I would again say that they shouldn't lie with a man. "Regarding adoption, Do you realize how problem-ridden our adoption and foster system is? 'Young people who age-out of the foster care system without being adopted are over-represented in rater of incarceration, suicide and substance abuse.' (Huffington Post) Putting a child up for adoption is a huge gamble." Do you realize how bad of an argument that is? (Also, please put a link to the Huffington Post article you got that quote from in the next round.) Just because they are more likely to be incarcerated and everything else, it doesn't give us a right to kill them! If our adoption and foster care system is so screwed up, we should fix it instead of killing all the people that need it! If soup kitchen X doesn't serve good soup, we don't go around killing all the poor people! We fix the soup kitchen. The same thing applies with the adoption and foster care system! Also, ANYBODY can age-out of the foster care system, not just the children of pro-choice people. Even though putting a baby up for adoptiong could be "a huge gamble," it's better than imminent murder! "Abortions are not punishing the baby." (Even you realize fetuses are babies! Hooray!) They are brutally murdering the baby for something they didn't do. I would call that punishment. "And I am sure there are forced abortions but that is irrelevant." You argue that women should have the right to choose to kill their baby, but when they are forced to do so without their consent, now you are saying it is okay? Again, I call hypocrisy! "I am running out of space so on to your articles." Same. Next time, please put the character limit at 10,000 insterad of 4,000. Anyway, I believe that abortion is immoral because it is murder and you are stampeding on the baby's right to live and control its own body. I await your rebuttal.