All places of worship need to fall, as no stone shall be upon another.

Pro Religion and beliefs have had its place in time to be the leading rule for the people by the people and it just isn't the structures created for worship that it was and should be. Religion and beliefs over time corrupt their own fundamental principles, when they try to become a governing force. People then break away and create their own governing rule. All religions and beliefs belong to the people and governing rule. Credibility is kept in check of both positions of authority at the people's discretion. Con Most countries in the world nowadays have a secular government ( 85 are secular while 40 non secular and the rest ambiguous) and even in those non secular, many allow freedom of religion. https://propelsteps.wordpress.com.... You missed the part where I said that places of worship bring a semblance of order. Nowadays it's more of an option to be a part of a religion. Also, no religion corrupts their own fundamental principles, times change. At one point it was commonly accepted in say, Christianity: Topping it was St Paul's advice in 1 Timothy 2:12, in which the saint says: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent." The extract is often used to justify opposition to women priests. This is misogyny in every context. but times change and religion changes along with it. What do you mean by "corruption"? it doesn't make sense. The average Joe that practices religion nowadays do it to give their life meaning and destroying these places of worship would harm them. Sure extremists take it to far sometimes but you can't punish everyone for a few people. That's like killing everyone just because some people are evil. Pro So how is it that the leaders of the towers of Babel (established religions and beliefs of today) have so much wealth and treasures while people are starving to death? So many wealthy individuals upon the tree of monkeys (today's worldwide economics') would pay billions? Con It seems you're argument here isn't about religion but the fact that there are rich people and some of them are religious leaders. For these people, religion is a business opportunity and just because they are smart. People are willing to pay for these services and these leaders are working after all. Even if we take away religion, there will still be rich people, poor people and people who don't give a . Pro just has a grudge on rich people. Maybe we should destroy Windows because that's how Bill Gates became rich right? Sounds just like something pro would say. Pro is suggesting a world of communism as the solution to poverty and he would get rid of religion for no other reason but people are rich. Pro Atheists create divisions and mixed messages within and between western cultures and eastern cultures "excuse me for not a better word then cultures" Here in the west where we supposedly have freedom of speech rofl, while atheists continue within a scientific tunnel vision perspective and repeatedly toss the baby out with the bath water. While extremists intentionally pick up that big stick to defend any integrity that is left of any book/text about any sort of existence creator. The complete truth of any war; "it's not about who was right. It's about who is left" While philosophy and psychology continue to sift through the bias recordings of history left by the victors. Con We do have freedom of speech here (assuming you live in America) "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." - first amendment You can literally find thousands of people saying they want to kill POTUS right outside the white house. You can also find Nazis, White Supremacists and just about anyone voicing their opinions in America. Pro blames everyone but himself saying oh atheists are bad, extremists are bad, philosophy and psychology are wrong. Pro is extremely arrogant in thinking all the problems in the world would go away by destroying all religious institutions but his (since clearly he isn't an atheist). Places of worship are in no way causing harm on a high level. Nazism was killing people and there are so many policies in the world that are bad. Pros only grudge about religion is because the leaders are rich. Pro So is it any wonder that the break down in communication has escalated to where we all stand within the united nations today throughout the world it's all so over governed with all sorts of taxes, fees, rates and insurances with foreign deficits still looming over our children's future putting our air and water quality at risk because of our blatant disregarded upon nature which affects the essentials of life that are becoming more so prevalent with obvious climate change. Con How will not respecting peoples freedom of idea and speech do all of this. These things you talk about taxes, fees, insurance; They're all essential for order and a social structure such as a government. It seems that you have a grudge about you're own life that is angering you. Taxes allow a government to function so that it can pave roads, education and so many other things. Insurance is for when something terrible happens so it saves you from living the rest of your life in debt. Before insurance, you'd have to go to debtors prison, a fee for insurance sounds a lot better. Also, to bring this back to the debate, all these problems you cite are not caused by religion, so it doesn't make sense as to why it is letting people have different opinions fault. Pro Psychopaths are born and Sociopaths are made. https://eyesofasociopath.weebly.com...... Approximately 70,000,000 psychopaths and approximately 280,000,000 sociopaths 1% and 4% of the world's population both have destructive habitual behavioural issues, they both have no moral compass about empathetic or sympathetic traits that loving caring parents teach their children. High functioning sociopaths and psychopaths play vicious games exploiting any that threaten their status quo of all I.Q levels. A trained mind can spot both traits. A true psychopath has an actual physical brain disorder and sociopaths have a physiological brain dysfunction. One in five CEO's exploit humanities humane it's about the same as prisoners in prison. https://www.healthyplace.com...... http://www.beardexecutiveconsulting.com...... I couldn't include threat due to limited space con Yes, psychopaths are bad news when they are manipulative, but its still irrelevant. One in five CEO's exploiting sympathy doesn't mean that they are sociopaths. Ads exploit sympathy, sex appeal, anger and all kinds of things https://blog.hubspot.com... doesn't mean they are sociopaths. It's just a business tactic. Also, I don't know where you got that statistic from because its not in either citation. Anyway, this is irrelevant to our debate. I don't understand how corporatism is relevant to religious places. Pro is just ranting about life in general and the way things are. I agree with you. Corporatism does lower social mobility but that has nothing to do with religious leaders. another thing, educating children on human rights won't change corporatism. that isn't a human rights problem but yeah. still irrelevant to this debate. I would like to point out that the United kingdom is fundamentally ruled by religion as religious leaders can still vote in legislature. rest of your arguments are irrelevant and the Sigmund Freud thing: It states that people don't like to work therefore coercion is necessary That is what government and religion do so they are necessary for many people If I have proved that removing religion is unnecessary and doesn't solve anything but rather hurts people then I have won this debate.