Zoo's are inhuman

Hello again I said Inhuman, yes I know. Do you know what "inhuman" means? I think not. "Lacking human qualities of compassion and mercy; cruel and barbaric" "lacking qualities of sympathy, pity, warmth, compassion, or the like; cruel; brutal: an inhuman master. " "Lacking kindness, pity, or compassion; cruel. " "very fierce or cruel" Sources: Definitions of inhuman in the english language: . http://dictionary.reference.com... . http://www.thefreedictionary.com... The link below is a forum which although not fact is debating our current predicament with the word inhuman: . http://forum.wordreference.com... . http://www.merriam-webster.com... . http://www.oxforddictionaries.com... . http://dictionary.cambridge.org... . http://www.vocabulary.com... An example is: If someone behaves in a way that shows no compassion, you could describe that person and his or her actions as inhuman. A teacher who assigns six hours of homework every night might be seen as inhuman. Are zoos showing compassion to these animals? No they simply are not. .. Definitions of cruel: -Willfully or knowingly causing pain or distress to others. -Used to describe people who hurt others and do not feel sorry about it -Wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it: 'people who are cruel to animals' Sources: . http://dictionary.reference.com... . http://www.thefreedictionary.com... . http://www.merriam-webster.com... . http://www.oxforddictionaries.com... . http://www.macmillandictionary.com... . http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com... . http://dictionary.cambridge.org... So as I hope you can see every definition of the word inhuman I have found has the word cruel in it. So as you said in post 1 "This definition doesn't apply to your usage of inhuaman, you said zoo's are just like a jail to back your case that zoo's are inhuman, however saying a jail is fierce doesn't make sense meanwhile cruel does. Therefore we're debating whether or not zoo's are cruel. " you are correct however since cruel is a main part of the word inhuman, we are debating about the word inhuman AND cruel, because they are the same thing. 1. I'll list three links showing examples of torture and three links showing animals in a zoo, and let the voters decide. Well, we are not talking about animals in the zoo are we? We are talking about animals that have been released back into the wild. Here are some pictures of animals unable to escape predators: (Viewer warning, some of these images contain gore) . http://www.google.co.nz... . http://www.documentingreality.com... Both are penguins of which many are endangered, and therefore relevant. Do animals go through a 'run away from predators trying to eat you test? NO, they are therefore not prepared for the wild. 2. As for PETA this was 1 example, although it may be incorrect as I did not know their 'apparent' background. But in saying that your sources do not prove a point. . http://www.theatlantic.com... I see no proof on this page of any wrong-doings, besides an opinion, backed up by some questionable stats. . http://www.petakillsanimals.com... This does have some proof, but really? petakillsanimals. com? their website is sure to say good things about peta. . http://www.freerepublic.com... Also includes questionable stats, with nothing to back them up. About the book 'the biology of animal stress' since when have we been debating about just the present? we are debating about zoos as a whole, which means since they started to now. Besides many of these points are still valid, do zoo's protect the animals with sound proof walls? do zoos protect the animals with one-sided glass (or a similar material), do zoo's provide the animals with large spaces? I think not! As for the guardian, zoos cause animal stress this is a fact: . http://censhare.umn.edu... this is research from the university Minnesota. For these examples we will use tigers. These links below are from normal zoos, look at them and tell me how many of the 'cat' stress symptoms you see. These symptoms are for cats in general therefore affect tigers. Another link. Why would a lion attack for fun? It wouldn't! it was stressed, if these animals lived in luxuries they would not need to kill. . http://www.stuff.co.nz... So, showing that zoo's cause stress, which decreases life expectancy means you are in some cases halving their possible life span! This is cruel! As for chinadaily, is seeing something with your own eyes fake? no, the evidence to back it up is in the text, a gibbon nearly seriously hurting itself to escape the people staring at it? That is stress. and Nique. The whole point of this debate! animals are best suited for larger environments? yes, environments that are bigger (easy enough to do if you remove all the concrete and walkways in zoos) and environments without people staring constantly. Zoo's should remain, but should change to be A) bigger B)Private and C)Should only be for endangered animals. As for our 'only points' A) People pay to see the rare and endangered animals, all the other animals are simply time wasters. I personally (Yes, I know, personally) went to a zoo specifically to see a white tiger, a rare animal that is endangered. I didn't care about any of the other animals there. B) They don't need protection and are wasting space for the animals that do! If the animals aren't endangered then they probably are well adapted to surviving. C) Educate about animals? " . http://rt.com...; This educated about animals! This is cruel! This is what some zoos do about 'extra' animals when they can't be bothered moving them to another zoo, or at even put them down simply because they do not have the correct genes (this sounds a lot like world war II when hitler only wanted specific types of people). As for you example, I have already explained that 90% of people go to zoos to see the rare animals. A. ) I assume when you say woken up by screaming and being surrounded everyday, you mean that people viewing me and learning about me from a fence/rail far away? I've never seen people screaming at the animals or surrounding them, I believe I would get use to being viewed however. Is this a Pathos appeal? or a personal appeal to me? Where are the facts? Finally, for your last facts. A) Health can and will last, you simply misunderstood me. What I meant was how are they going to cope with 'a new enemy', starvation. B) This is true but zoo animals have generally not been starved before and will not know how to cope after being in zoo, conditions all their life. C) Also true, but do they have a 'run for your life' 'test' in zoo reintroduction programs? D) They have a life of luxury besides maybe being confined in a room their whole life? They may get the best food, but they are also stuck in a tiny area with little chance to burn the energy gained by that food. E) Many animals are from packs, and many packs/herds do not accept new odd animals (if the animal can even find a herd/pack) meaning they will be left out and possibly have no protection whereas other animals of the same type would.