Minimum wage

Firstly please spell things correctly, and use proper grammar when you debate. "con's main point is that with a minimum wage there's less jobs. first i'm not pushing for a fifteen hour job. just that we have a minimum wage, otherwise companies would pay like two or three dollars an hour"- Pro. First off the logic would still stand that if 15 dollars would kill jobs so would $7.25. Secondly would you honestly work for 2 or 3 dollars an hour?? I know that I wouldn't, and I don't know many that would. Therefore the companies will have to pay their employees more. "the minimum by law was 3.50. and you can bet people were being paid that much at mcdonald's too."- Pro Pro has just proven the problem with enacting a minimum wage- when it is in place that's all the workers are paid and the companies lose initiative to pay more because all other competition is paying the minimum as well. "they should get a fairer wage "- Pro Why wouldn't we raise the wage to 50 dollars then? That sounds very fair to me. Now you can't say that would kill jobs otherwise you should not be in favor of any minimum wage. "f you can't afford to pay a decent wage, you sholdnt be in business."- Pro What is a decent wage?? The government has no right to tell what every worker is worth. I may not be worth 7.25 but you are telling businesses to suck it up and hire me anyway. I would be willing to work for 5 dollars an hour but the law says I can't. Therefore the business will not hire me and go for another worker.(1) "There's an abundance of unskilled labor out there. So much in fact, that empiracally, employers can and do pay employees beans without a minimum"- Pro Where is the proof of this? Even if this was true it is still worth it to the "peons" working for that giant otherwise they would quit the job. Who provides these jobs? The giants or the peons? The giants are the ones creating these jobs. "it's like denying indians the right to land: as a practical matter we have to have laws that prevent them from land, but we should recognize how our laws infringe, and act accordingly. with indians, and here. or, imagine a primitive world where a man has all the land taken up by the laws of man, and using technology to claim it like in farming etc: a family wanting to branch off can't because of the law of man, the law of God says they can. it's not stealing, it's fixing the fact the family has the right to take what God has given everyone but laws prevent it and keep things civil. these analogies are happening today, as we prevent people access to the natural world, which is a right. we have to recognize how laws infringe and act accordingly, if not by ging land, then by something else, to be reasonable and not partition everything absurdly."- Pro So I have no idea how this analogy is related to minimum wage. We already give First Nations land, and that has nothing to do with the minimum wage. It would also help if you made that analogy partially more readable as I find it hard to read when you use the poor grammar that you do. Small business gets killed with a minimum wage because they can't compete paying a higher wage. These small business owners are seeing the struggles of over 170,000 pages of regulation- including the minimum wage.(2) Why are you OK with allowing small business to fail?? This would only increase unemployment and result in higher taxes for the rest of the country. This would also increase monopolies and cause the price of goods and services to skyrocket, thus proving your argument wrong that they do in fact cancel each other out. Pro has failed to provide any links backing her claims that the minimum wage does more good than harm. Links- 1- http://www.usnews.com... 2- http://www.theguardian.com...