Resolved: The US should constitute a Single-Payer Health Care System

Current US government health care Ok it is a well known fact people on current government health care find it hard to find doctors. [1] We agree on this, correct? The reimbursements and low/delayed pay make them wanna opt out correct? [1] We seem to agree the MAIN reason is reimbursements, but where we differ is how to control it. In the US private Health care is far more efficient then the governments counter parts. [2] My opponent claims government central health care is more efficient? This makes no logical sense. If small scale government health care is poor why add more? Oh I cut my finger lets stab it more then it may stop hurting... Seriously that's similar logic, it makes no sense. My opponent implies the government subsidizes the electronic records to make health care better. When the government does this it actually increases inefficiency in the market and other areas in the sector. [3]Drug shortagesAlthough it is correct there are many ways these drug shortages came into effect, the FDA, a government program, it ignoring many problems. [4] Now, if the government is already doing a poor job why would putting even more government help? My opponent must somehow justify how a small amount of government is doing bad, and somehow more will help, which is impossible. My hands in the alligators mouth, want my arm next?Pharmaceutical companies in SP countries actually get less profit then in their counter parts here. [5] Free market competition and not government monopolies are the way to increase pharmaceutical success and lower prices without government inefficiencies. [5, 6]My opponent also proves the government highly regulates the drug business, and they already are bad at doing it (see current government care and drug shortages). Once again, your hands already into the mouth of an alligator, why put in the whole arm?Doctors pay and Shortages In Cuba doctors get paid very low incomes under he SP system and often enter underground markets to gain money and provide quick HC. [7] (implying a wait list). My opponent keep claiming all SP countries have no doctors shortage because they train more. Canada, an SP country, has a doctor shortage and it is predicted to get even worse. [8] Many universal HC systems have this problem. [8] The doctor shortages in the UK call for people going to India to get doctors and bring t. [9] So, if these SP had the reforms as you imply they have, then why do they have these problems?Free Market CuresSocialized medicines and SP health cares are both very similar. SP has insurance run by the state, the other government hospitals. [10, 11] My opponent then cites info that we have poor Health care and have the best technology. Before I refute this may I add this contradicts with his improves medical infrastructure and modernizes US economy. Ok my opponent cites stats trying to show the free market has failed us. He forgets a large amount of the population is already on government insurance. [12, 13] Since the government has done this the overall stats became worse. [12] The more the government has entered this system, the worse it gets. So reducing government intervention is better. [12] Remember, want to put the whole arm into the alligator mouth? Wanna make the paper cut on your finger bigger? The logic doesn't hold up here. (on your side :P)Rationing As I have stated the US does not ration! In the US you get care no matter what. You are basically saying no insurance no surgery, that is false. In the US even poor people get care in the emergency rooms, therefore there is no rationing as even poor people get care. [14]Um how are their wait times getting shorter? Canada's is at an all time high. [15] My opponent says the waits are short, in Canada you have to wait 18.3 weeks for a surgery. [15] Due to the fact the wait times are that high that's a very bad sign...My opponent then claims the doctor and the patients choose, this is false. The government chooses certain drugs by highly regulating them and restricting their amount in the markets. [16] A man in Canada needed a surgery and the GOVERNMENT canceled the surgery as there was no bed. [16] Sound like the government lets you decide? In France the amount of doctors allowed to enter the schools are HIGHLY restrained. [19]Consensus The CBO says a SP system may save a very low amount of money, so small it wouldn't effect the long term budget. [3] They also said they would at most gain a very small amount, and most likely lose money or break even. [3] The SP system in france is 40% of their spending and they charge a 20% payroll tax to pay for the system. [17] How does this save costs?His SP case--> In the UK health costs make up to each person 670 ponds per week. [18]--> The health planning board. This contradicts to your left up to the patients argument. Also if this pannel was correct then they would have great health care in Canada, they don't. [20]--> Ok he wants a SP country, hello Canada how you doing? Wait doctors there say private health care is more efficient? [21] Their underpaid,under equipped, and the cost is high to the patent and the government? [22] good to know.--> You know the goverment care in canada is highly inneficient and as I stated the doctors say private healthcare is superior. [23]--> See frances 20% tax. It decreases cost at first then over the long run administrative cost rises. [24]I need to skip some of his things as they are still debunked from earlier --> The goverement actually has a cap on what doctors can do. [22]--> explain why every SP country plan says this then it happens a few year later. [16]--> I refuted that already. People in SP countries pay a lot more for HC as does buisness. [18]--> The US is better at improving medical infustructure then any SP country. [25] SP hinders advancemens here. [25]I refuted all of that earlier..CONCLUSION:SP costs more, current goverment HC sucks why make it worse with more goverment, reduce effeciencies, cause doctor shortages,and get rationed care and poor care. There is no reason too. 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Statistics Canada.[24] Nearly 10 percent of doctors trained in Canada work in USA” Canadian Medical Association Journal[25] http://fraser.stlouisfed.org...