(Pro) Goku Vs (Con) The Hulk

RebuttalsR1) The Green ScarThe fatal misconception that my adversary still keeps drawing is that the Green Scar is more powerful than Goku. Even the Green Scar has to acquire rage to be strong. So let us assume we are fighting this version of the hulk. " While in a calm emotional state, he is the strongest primary incarnation. During a burst of unexplained anger from the Hulk in New York City, Professor X attempted to slow down the angered Hulk with intense power; however, the Hulk proved to be resistant to the Professor's psionic effects. The Green Scar reached a new level of anger at the end of World War Hulk, after his fellow Warbound Miek attempted to provoke him to destroy the world" [1] Meaning that if he s not able to keep calm in the green scar state, he becomes weaker because of a lack of control. He would still gain strength but his mental capacity would weaken. Either way it is time to break down this Green Scar can not be hurt misconception. Even in the form of the Green Scar the hulk can be hurt, because he possesses the same capability with a slightly higher level of intellect and a lot more strength. His regeneration can make him almost impossible to kill but there are two ways to kill him on the spot(a) Snap his neck/decapitate him ( Even if his regeneration worked over a period of time and he grew his head back, he would still lose the fight even if it theoretically did not kill him. But for all intents and purposes it would probably kill him(b) rip out his heart (same as above)(c) Blow his body up so he can not regenerate. Examples of how the Hulk has diedHe was killed by hoarfen with a brutal chomp. " Many years later the Warriors Three, Hulk and his wife Betty, along with Red Norvell and some of the Pantheon were pursing Agamemnon to Siingard Castles. The Frost Giant Siingard then unleashees Hoarfen to protect Agamemnon. Siingard first order to the wolf Hoarfen was to kill the Hulk. Leading up to this Hector eventually catches Agamemmon and while doing so Hoarfen is released. Hoarfens thunders towards the band of heroes making Hector Drop Agamemmon into the hulks arms. Hoarfens then grabs the Hulk and Agamemmon in his mouth killing the two. Hoarfen then proceeds to attack the others who attacks prove useless against the giant wolf Hoarfen as no weapon could harm him." [2]Hoarfen is at super strength class 100[3]. Here is just a list of people that are in the same category [4] which actually includes iron man Basically Super Strength classes in marvel are defined as "In the Marvel universe, Superhuman strength is often measured by a Class structure based on the number of tons a character can lift of his or her head, from 1 to 100 (Class 20, Class 50, Class 100, etc). Characters who can lift more than 100 tons often have incalculable or unlimited strength."[5]This was also in the hulks form right below WW hulk and he was killed with ease. Which goes to show a strong blow can in fact kill the hulk. Thor was able to snap the Hulks neck as well[6] in the series "what if the hulk went berserk". He also was able to do this with ease. R1A) How this is applicable Goku in SSJ4 or SS4 with a superdragon fast in kaio ken has more strength than a full on superman assault. One punch would be stronger than a hammer or thor or a bite from Hoarfen. Remember the hulk was killed a blow in Class 100 which is where ironman resides. This is basically saying they have the strength to do (x). A majority of heroes fall into this and have killed the hulk with heavy blows such as Thor and Hoarfen. Remember Goku can travel at the speed of light to gain momentum and is already classed in a league with superman in sheer strength. With entering kaio-ken to multipy his power x 20 he would be able to quicly discard of the hulk. He could either snap his neck or rip his head offHe could rip out his heartor he could enter SSJ4 and do a x10 Kamehameha while he is in Kaio-Ken (this would be enough to blow up mulitple planets as you can see in my prior round). Any of these attack would either Kill or force the hulk back into the form of bruce banner. At this point the fight is over and Goku has won the fight. This is about winning a one v one fight and not killing persay, but we have to acknowledge that goku would dismember banner once he returns to that form. Even if we said he was in the Green Scar mode the attack would be so deadly that it would render banner immobile ending the battle. Goku could blow up a planet with a simple chi blast in SS3. This is derived from broly. Broly has a power level of 1,400,000,000 [7]. Goku in SS4 has a power level of 1,500,000,000[7]. In Super Saiyan 3 Goku is at 1,200,000,000 . Broly was able to blow up a planet without even expending hardly any energy[8]. If Goku in SS4 is stronger than broly(this is without Kaio-Ken he would be able to discard of a planet with a simple chi blast. If he were to channel all of his energy into a thurst, he could easily decapitate the hulk or rip out his heart rendering him immobile. Basically even in the green scar form, the hulk is vulnerable to a precise and accurate attack. He would not even necessarily have to die, but all of Gokus attacks in SS4 or SSJ4 would be enough to easily incapacitate the hulk and leave him vulnerable which would result in a win for Goku. R2) Thunder ClapMy adversary brings up a point about thunder clap being effective but this is null. He concedes Goku can move at 1.4x-2.0x the speed of light." A fly is faster than me, and can circle me for hours. That does not mean I am in ANY way "beaten" by it. Hulk will do what everybody would do with a fly: clap "By asserting that Goku is in fact as fast as the speed of light, he fails to understand that he would never get hit by a thunder clap. He could teleport out of range before the hulk could even flinch to move his arms. R3) EnduranceMy adversary says Goku can only hold Super Saiyan for a matter of minutes. This is false. If you look at the fights with buu, freeza, and cell Goku was able to hold his super saiyan form for many hours and this when he was on an even playing field with them. He is able to stay in the form longer if he does not extend large amounts of energy. Just moving and using teleport, would enable him to stay in the form for days due to energy conversation. [9]Rebuilding CaseHow Goku Could beat the hulk. A) A single blow in full powerI have shown this a little above as well. Broly could blow up a planet in legendary super saiyan mode just with a simple chi blast, and Goku in SS4 is stronger than him. See sourced links above. This is not even with kaio-ken which would make him 20x more powerful but expound all of his energy in a matter of seconds. With Kaio- Ken being activated in SS4 he would be possibly the strongest being in the entire universe. Again Broly could destory planets with a flick of a finger, and Goku is stronger than him in SS4. Multiply his power level 1,500,000,000 x 20 and see the result of his strength. It would expend all of his energy and leave him on the verge of death, but he could invest all of the energy into a single attack and piece the hulks heart, decapitate him, or hit him so hard he is obliterated into air. Even with ripping out his heart or taking off his head, Goku would win the fight. AA) Goku would not kill or fight the HulkMy adversary dug his own grave hear by saying he wanted to use the green scar. Goku is he worlds defender and loves earth. " The Green Scar reached a new level of anger at the end of World War Hulk, after his fellow Warbound Miek attempted to provoke him to destroy the world. At this level, he started to release huge amounts of gamma energy from within his body, devastating New York, and causing quakes across North America. It would have taken but a couple of footsteps from the Hulk to completely destroy the eastern seaboard. If he had not let himself be stopped, then he definitely would have lived up to his "Worldbreaker" title, and would have completely destroyed the Earth " [10] Goku would not just fight this Hulk but kill him. Just as he killed Freeza, Cell , Buu, and Omega Shenron when they threatened earth. This is a fight among characters and when the hulk is enraged, which is what my adversary is wanting so bad. Goku would kill him. He would also be strong enough in SS4 and Kaio-Ken x 20 to instantly dismember the hulk and leave him incapacitated winning the fight. B) Spirit BombGoku would not have to be in outer space where could not breathe, but just teleport the hulk to a planet and ward to the other side of it in the outer system near space. The hulk would not be able to sense him and Goku would still destroy the planet. Leaving the Hulk Stranded in space without air.He still requires air to breathe. Which would kill him in the end. He would either pass out and be rendered useless awarding goku the fight or he would die. If he passed out his body could possibly adapt to the climate over (x) amount of time but the fight would still be GokusC) Dragon ballThis entire refutation is based off the fact Goku cant speak Namekeian. Goku has left traveling the world in Gt and could easily learn 3 to 10 words in Namekian. And even given two wishes it would not change the oucomeConclussionthere is no way the Hulk could beat Goku[1] http://marvel.wikia.com...(Robert_Bruce_Banner)[2] http://marvel.wikia.com...(Earth-616)[3] http://en.wikipedia.org...[4] http://marvel.wikia.com...[5] http://marvel.wikia.com...[6] http://hulkcollection.wordpress.com...[7] http://dragonball.wikia.com...[8] See youtube video at top of page[9] http://dragonball.wikia.com...[10] http://marvel.wikia.com...(Robert_Bruce_Banner)[11] http://www.comicvine.com...http://www.youtube.com...