Severus Snape is a more anti-death eater character than Harry Potter

Thank you baggins once again for another interesting argument. It appears to me that baggins has misunderstood me from my conclusion that he has, himself, quoted. Allow me to make my quoted statement crystal clear to our readers: “If we follow the definition that I have just placed forth, I have, in round 2, attempted to prove that Severus Snape is a MORE anti-death eater character than Harry.” This is the important word that my opponent has missed. From my arguments supplied I have “attempted” to prove that Snape is more anti-death eater than Harry, not that my arguments have proved that Snape is more anti-death eater. Whether I have or have not proved that Snape is a more anti-death eater character than Harry that is up to our voters to decide. Counter-Rebuttals: Snape risked his life: Although con does not see how Snape is a MORE anti-death eater character than Harry on basis on how much Snape has risked his life just to help out the good side that is up to our voters to decide. Con also states that Harry risked his life many times over fighting the dark arts. This is true, but most of the times, he was protected from the Fidelius Charm that was casted over Harry. Snape, on the other hand, was at more risk because he was not as well protected. Snape helps Harry in fighting dark-arts: I understand Con’s doubt and response that many other people have helped Harry in fighting the dark arts, but I am arriving at my resolution based on the degree to which Snape helped Harry fight the dark arts in the entire series. Many people helped Harry during his tireless journey to take down the dark lord, but Snape helped Harry so much, I would consider that he even did more than Harry himself. REBUTTALS Against Dark arts from beginning: Con goes back to the point that I thought was finished with. All of us here agree that Snape WAS a death eater before the remorse he went through and that Harry was against the dark arts from the beginning (not specifically mentioned but what I believe to be an obvious fact). But this is one of the major mistakes made by Snape. A similar mistake made by Harry was allowing Wormtail (Peter Pettigrew) to be “sent to Azkaban” but later escaping because of the mistake made by Harry’s bad choice [1]. I never said that Snape experienced remorse for his support for dark arts, but said he experienced remorse for what he informed Lord Voldemort. This is the point where Snape starts to become anti-death eater. Con also stated that reason Snape lost Lily was because of his love for the dark arts. Snape lost Lily because he noted Voldemort of the first part of Professor Trelawney’s prophecy because it “concerned his master most deeply”. [2] This is not directly related to his love for the dark arts. Also, if we speculate that Snape never informed his master about the prophecy, it is likely that Voldemort would have figured out what was contained in the prophecy in other ways (because as stated, it “concerned him most deeply”. That means he knows such a prophecy does exist). And, if we speculate further that Voldemort does not find out about the prophecy, James and Lily Potter would have probably ended up being killed by Voldemort because they won’t join forces with him. The forgiving nature: Although the part that I consider it “unfair” to expect Snape to forgive James and Sirius for their school day rivalries is not exactly an argument, it was merely a response to my opponent’s argument that was put forth in Round 2. To quote baggin word-for-word of what he said: "Snape, on the other hand, never really forgave James or Sirius for school-days pranks." Con also argues that it is Snape’s fault that Sirius died. However, most of the blame must be cast to Harry. Snape took the job of teaching Occlumency to Harry even with his hatred and Harry barely even tries to master Occlumency. Harry was clearly told every reason why he was given the Occlumency lessons but instead of even trying to learn, he decided to be too nosy and have a look at Snape’s deepest secrets hidden in the Pensieve. It is unjust to think that Snape did wrong in this situation. Little child, Big deeds: This argument is true and I therefore have nothing to disagree with. The sacrifice: Con has stated that when Harry walked into the forest to face Voldemort, he accepted the fact that he was going to die. Even if this is true, the same applied to Snape when Voldemort explained to him that he must die so that he can become the “true master of the Elder wand”. Snape knew this was an utterly false statement, but allowed Voldemort to kill him to not reveal the secrets he knew. Also, with Con’s statement that Harry had the choice to return or move on because he mastered death, I don’t agree. I was under the impression that Harry did not actually die, but allowed Voldemort to destroy the bit of his soul that remains in Harry’s body. Voldemort inside him: Con’s argument that Harry’s protection would have corroded if he got attracted to the dark arts at any stage is a red herring. Con has also stated that Harry mind is the proof that he is the greatest wizard of all times. We are arguing who is a more anti-death eater character, not who is a better wizard. Voldemort himself proved to be a very great (in terms of power) wizard himself, but definitely not anti-death eater. CONCLUSION: This concludes my argument for the final round. It is in my belief Severus Snape was more “anti-evil” in the sense of being an anti-death eater after the death of Lily Evans. I have provided two PROMINENT reasons as to why Snape is more “anti-death eater” than Harry Potter himself. Here are a few things our readers should have a look at: Where would Harry be if Snape did not save him at his first quidditch match? Where would Harry be if Snape did not show Harry the sword of Gryffindor Where would Dumbledore/Harry or the order of the Phoenix be if Snape had not been spying for them? If Snape was given the knowledge of the Horcruxes and also how to destroy them, what would he be doing? We all know that Snape WAS a death eater before he really tried to help the good side, for Lily. But all of my arguments are following the basis of what Snape has managed to do after Lily’s life was threatened. He hated Harry so much, yet did so much for him. VOTING GUIDELINES: I would ask of the voters to vote on the overall quality of the debate and the arguments provided, but not on which side they are on. References: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Chapter 19 The Servant of Lord Voldemort Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince Chapter 25 The Seer Overheard