God exists

1) God created everything if you believe in the bible, so he created and allowed suffering. IF you want my personal definition of suffering I would say that it is harm. You suffer when something is being done to you (you are harmed), you suffer the consequences when you do something to others (bring harm upon yourself), and others suffer when you do something to them (you cause harm to them). The actual definition is as follows. (1) 1: the state or experience of one that suffers 2: pain Here is the definition of omnibenevelent (2) 1.All-loving, or infinitely good, usually in reference to a deity or supernatural being, for example, 'God'. Its use is often with regards to the divine triad, whereby a deity is described to be simultaneously omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent. This triad is used especially with the Christian god, Yahweh. The omnibenevolent God, by definition, was unable to withhold forgiveness from his people. The god of the bible is omnibenevelent sand therefore cannot cause harm or suffering OR allow it. There are tons of examples where he does this as I have said before. I know suffering is real and that is a major reason why I question the Christian gods existence. 2)I am not a all powerful god! If I raise my kid and he turns out to be a drug dealer I have no control over that like you said. This is a bad analogy for god though because unlike me he created everything! He made Adam, he made personalities, he made emotions, he made his biology. He had complete control unlike I have with my kid. My statement is god is perfect, and he could not create that thing in Adam and eve that would cause imperfection and make them WANT to turn on him in the first place. 3) This part makes no sense. Your saying things have to happen in order for god to know about them? That still doesn't counter my point that he KNEW that the human race was going to fail BEFORE it happened. You're just saying it HAD to happen in order for him to know it was going to happen? That is not all knowing, but the Christian god is said to be in the bible. 4)I gave you the verse right there, plus you didn't counter my not getting rid of evil part either. 5) Yes science is pretty sure about the age of the earth and the beautiful thing about science is that it could be wrong! Scientists don't hold onto an idea once it is proven wrong or evidence is given that points to another conclusion. Unlike religion and christianity that claim to know everything already, science when GIVEN EVIDENCE can change its mind. Sure we could be wrong with the age of the world and sure we could never know its exact age, but we can get close to that number with modern technology today. The problem with your six day story is that there IS NO evidence at all to support it. If genesis in not true then it disproves the existence of the BLIBLICAL god, not that there isn't some deist god that created the universe out there. We are debating the Christian god here remember! 6)Here you say if you knew ahead of time you would still cry when your brother died. I agree you would, that is very sad. This does not counter my point that god knew all these things were going to happen when he crated man as he did, and he (unlike you) could of and didn't change man to prevent this from happening. The guy created the universe and man, couldn't he since he knew what man was going to do in the future change man? Or make him different? You say that without god absolute truth doesn't exist. Well I say it doesn't exist now! We don't know anything for a fact a full 100%. So even with your Christian god we don't have absolute truth. Here at the end you say it has been proven the universe had a begging. This is true, it has, and scientist have EVIDENCE of it happening 13.788 billion years ago (3). Now it is also true that science has not disproven that a god started the universe, nor can they in the foreseeable future. This DOES NOT mean that your Christian god is real. With the evidence given we can be very sure the universe wasn't made in six days about 6000ish years ago. This DISPROVES the bible and its god, but there could be some deist god out there that made the universe but doesn't take part in it. Those are two very different gods, and since we are debating the god you picked, science can disprove that one. Thanks for your reply! I hope that you give me some evidence in your next round that your Christian god really exists, not some deist god. Thanks! Sources (1)http://www.merriam-webster.com... (2)http://en.wiktionary.org... (3)http://en.wikipedia.org...