The trinity is a false teaching

1) God says he is the one and only +You attack this by saying, "The fact that three separate things not only CAN be one but very often ARE one clearly negates your argument that 'God describing Himself as One means He cannot also be three.' - Now, the mistake with this argument is that your argument only works if I was saying "God says he is God." He's not just saying he's God[...] He's saying there are no other forms, he's the ONLY God. ************************************************************************************* ONLY: –adverb without others or anything further; alone; solely; exclusively: This information is for your eyes only. –adjective being the single one or the relatively few of the kind: This is the only pencil I can find. Only means the same thing as one. One can and often is three things in one. ************************************************************************************* Now, onto the "side note of the contention (if you will)" Let's say God is H20. Now, if ONE solution of H2O changes from Ice into liquid, then from liquid into gas (THE VERY SAME SOLUTION OF H2O)... you can say YES GOD IS ALL THREE IN ONE. BUT, when you have one solution of H20 in its water state, and a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SOLUTION of H20. ************************************************************************************* Wait! where did the 'completely different solution' of H20 come from? there's only ONE remember? One body of water that can be divided. Let us not forget that we are discussing God not H20. IF three things can be one (I've shown they can) then God can describe Himself as One and still interact with Himself separately. ************************************************************************************ 2) Bible writers would make it clear that they are all one Your definition of Christ is flawed. By your definition, EVERY PROPHET, every disciple (if you believe jesus is God), and every person that talked to God and was told to do something by God, IS CHRIST. I'll Concede that Jesus was a VERY effective prophet, even the most succesful leader of all time. However, I will not concede that he is God. ************************************************************************************* You seem to constantly forget that we are arguing whether the Trinity is false from a BIBLICAL standpoint.. at least that is the way you initially framed it. Jesus Christ descibes HIMSELF as the Only begotten Son of God. As you will not address any scripture I use I am at a loss how to precede with this. ************************************************************************************* 3) No one else in the bible is called the ALMIGHTY Neither Jesus nor the holy spirit is ever called that, for Jehovah alone is supreme. ************************************************************************************* Yes Jehovah IS ALONE and supreme. He is also Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. ************************************************************************************* 4) God couldn't be tempted to join a cause against himself - Now, lets say he does indeed switch sides. Then what? Jesus is with the Devil while God and the Holy Spirit are still in Heaven? This, AGAIN, is evidence of either there being 3 seperate gods (that aren't one), or that Jesus isn't a "God" at all. ************************************************************************************* Again, you have not moved past the stage that three things can be one. Three separate but STILL ONE. ************************************************************************************* 5) Jesus being God would be counterproductive to his Cause ************************************************************************************* Jesus, WHILE He was on earth had only the same powers as a man. That means He had to pray like the rest of us. ************************************************************************************* 6) Jesus was created by God. ************************************************************************************* No you have provided no scripture to back this up apart from Col.15 which I've already refuted. To be completely honest with you I regret taking on this debate at all. You have consistently ignored my arguments, refused my simple requests for scripture etc. I believe the cause of this to be that I demolished you're entire argument (that three cannot be one) in my opening paragraph. I suggest we stick to this point alone from now on as the rest is ALL based on this.