MIG Tourney R5: "Dexter, overall is a better show than Breaking Bad."

Thanks Pro for your final round. For the record, I wish we didn't have to attack each other's (presumably favorite shows). C1: Plot "Dexter has a strange passion for killing" I appreciate Pro's explanation. Still, it is pretty bizarre, and unrealistic for obvious reasons. Killers don't usually have morals and other logic to back up their killing, unless you're like Walt, who killed some people who threatened his life (I am like 3 episodes behind, I may be wrong). Breaking Bad involves a person who is terminally ill and is compassionate and caring, and wants his family to do well after he dies. However, Walt has pride, and doesn't accept free money from his former college mates who stabbed Walt in the back and ended up filthy rich. Walt then does what he sees is best for his family to get the most money — cooking meth. His signature product, infused with his knowledge of chemistry, makes his product very valuable and makes him filthy rich. Walt then has to keep his product selling and has to manufacture it often. This gets him into many different situations that affect his family and friends. The show focuses on them as well, though not as often. Breaking Bad ultimately shows how a man with good morals and values became corrupted by money and power, which he originally had. It is showing a man who had an evil spirit hiding, which comes ripping up front and center of the plot -- in the form of Walt, when he is sinister and evil. "Dexter is a good man, and heart, and mind." Pro's sole evidence for this is that he cared for his "family" in Season 2. On the other hand, Walt is still caring as well, not the total villain that Pro proclaimed him to be. Recently, Walter White was talking fondly and emotionally about Skyler with Hank and Marie (then Skyler walked into their pool). Walt also recently purchased his son is favorite car, and they bonded over this event. Walter White is becoming corrupted with money and power. That is the purpose of the show. It stands out, from many other shows. The purpose of the show is to challenge our sympathies with Walt. Can we forgive him consistently for what he is done? Then, like the two recent compassionate events I just mentioned, they tempt our loyalty to Walt even more. It is prying away at our sympathy for Walt. Dexter does a somewhat similar thing, though Dexter's passion is less in a pattern, meaning that he is two-faced, a family guy and a cold blooded killer at two different times. A cool idea, though Walt blends the two at different rates, tempting our ability to like Walt, keeping up the plot, and our interest and emotion. C2: Character Development "he point I am trying to get across here is this: Dexter delves deeper into the characters personalities throughout the show, giving the viewers an emotional attachment to them." In the last round, this is what TUF said: "In Dexter, the characters more or less stay the same, and throughout the show we get to see DEEPER into their character." First, Pro hasn't rebutted my analogy. I said how does a show get interesting if it stays the same. I compared the "static character development" to the cancellation of Jersey Shore, to show how static characters become bland and boring. The characters in Breaking Bad do not randomly switch their actions and morals. They are connected. For example, Marie has a problem with shoplifting. She gets off of this habit. However, when Hank makes Marie saddened, she goes back to this nasty habit. Jessie starts partying when he loses his good girlfriend. Walt Jr acts like a jerk-kid when Skyler is mean to his Dad, who Walt Jr has began to admire. Ultimately, Breaking Bad shows us deep insight into the characters involved, and show the influence that Walt's behavior has on them, which tests our faith in Walt to be the good guy even more. The characters are dynamic, realistic, and interesting, each with their unique personalities. For example, we know that Gale was a fan of jazz, a smart chemistry guy, young, a libertarian, and a tolerant person who was very intelligent. C3: Cienematic Effects Music I didn't find that Dexter's music played that much of a role. That may be subjective, which it probably is, and is difficult to explain. Breaking Bad's music isn't usually original. But if it plays up the right emotions to stir up the interest of a scene, the goal of the music has worked. Which is the case of Breaking Bad. For example, the music before Gus Fring dies is dreary and progresses slowly to build up tension to his death, which the viewer's didn't know what would come next. Intro Chill man, it was just a side observation. Pro does have fast recognition with the intro of the show, meaning he recognizes the show instantly. Pro didn't rebut my stealthy slippery slope argument that if the intro is too long, people don't recognize it all and only remember parts of it. Key point here is that Breaking Bad's intro is quick, memorable, and can play up a message if you look at it. -----Other Rebuttals----- "Oh hush, I did not. I pointed out the fallacy in it, which you yourself, ignored. I proved to you how Internet ratings are higher than BB. I also said that TV ratings are irrelevant because not everyone can pay 13$ a month just to watch Dexter, where as AMC is in most basic TV packages (Dish will get it again after the dispute is over). " First, I hope that Dish gets AMC before next Summer. Pro DID NOT show that Internet Ratings are better for Dexter. DID NOT. Specifically look at R3, my arguments, I destroy this argument and show that Breaking Bad's ratings crush Dexter. Visually Stunning Pro told some nice details of how the quality of Dexter has good visual images. I did the same thing in my first round. Humor Breaking Bad's humor is dark and subtle. However, BB has its humor placed at the most random moments, such as the occasions I have cited. Dexter has humor as well. Though BB has more realistic, resonating humor. For example, the last video I posted, or the time when Walt and Skyler were going over their script about how Walt got filthy rich. Conclusion: I have cited and proved how Breaking Bad has better ratings than Dexter. Pro has not refuted this critical point. Here it is again, the average of the running of the whole series for both shows: Critics: Breaking Bad: 88.6% [2] Dexter: 76.17% [1] Viewers: Breaking Bad: 93.8% (9.38/ 10) Dexter: 85.3% (8.53/ 10) I have shown how Breaking Bad has a greater character development sequence, a deeper plot and theme behind the show, and how the humor and other elements are superior. Thanks Pro for a great, though long debate, both shows are at the minimum; good. Voters, thanks for reading this long debate, and I recommend a Con vote. Sources: [1] http://www.metacritic.com... [2] http://www.metacritic.com...