Obamacare, Good (pro), Bad (con)

Thank you for permitting me to debate you on this topic. For my first round I will show why people don't want Obamacare, and show how your first arguments are invalid. Ronald Reagan once said, "Remember that every government service... is paid for in the loss of personal freedom," and that is exactly what is happening now. Since my partner has shown that their plan does not solve the problems with our system, I am going to state the disadvantages of the National Health Care plan. Disadvantage 1 Creates a socialistic government Vladimir Lenin states and I quote "Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism." If the United States Government provides free healthcare to all of its citizens, a socialistic government will result. Socialism is defined as: "A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done." [1] Disadvantage 2 Increases cost The national heath care system increases the cost to treat patients. Richard F. Davies states and I quote: "Rather than being part of the solution to the health care funding crisis, waiting lists contribute to it by making the delivery of care inefficient... Only 51% of the bypass surgeries were elective. Most of the remainder were done on patients deemed to be at too much risk to be discharged from hospital. Their average waiting time was 20 days. Since the average hospital stay after elective bypass surgery is only 5 to 6 days, this represents a 3- to 4-fold increase in total length of stay. Many of these patients would likely have been able to wait at home if the waiting times had been reasonable. Those who were truly too sick to go home under any circumstances could have been operated on sooner if the system had not been "jammed" with patients. Long waiting lists waste health care resources. We cannot afford this, particularly when hospital beds are closing." Instead of solving the financial problem, we are worsening it. Disadvantage 3 Discourages doctors Specifically, physicians will be subject to more government regulation and oversight, and will be increasingly dependent on unreliable government reimbursement for medical services. Doctors, already under tremendous pressure, will only see their jobs become more difficult. Not only are doctors affected, but also the students who want to be in the medical profession. Dr. Martha Boone who has been practicing medicine for 25 years, states and I quote: "I'm very worried about the country. If a person who has 350, 000 dollars worth of education and seventeen diplomas, and can't afford a fifteen hundred square office, what does that tell the young people in our country about education? I mean, when I was growing up, we believed that if you really worked hard and got a great education, that you would have a really good life in America. And I believe that what I'm experiencing personally is happening all over America. And I really worry for my young step daughters, because I don"t know if I"ll be able to tell them work hard and get a great education. This is America and your going to be prosperous." [2] Under Obamacare, we are discouraging the younger generation from becoming doctors. This will result in a doctor shortage. Disadvantage 4 Increased delay because of hypochondriacs Since the national health care plan will make a trip to the doctors completely free, hypochondriacs will visit the doctor more often. They most likely do not have an illness, and they would just waste the doctors time and make the wait time longer for those that really need medical assistance. According to CBS News, Canada is ranking low as far as how quickly patients see their doctors as a result of hypochondriacs. My wife is a [registered nurse] and has worked in several [doctor] offices. Her view is that many Calgarians are hypochondriacs, taking up the doctor's time with minor problems. Add in the neurotic mothers who are convinced their child has allergies or ADHD and the doctor is kept pretty busy," writes TheBrit. [3] "How many people run to emergency for non-emergency issues, or to their family [doctor] for the same?" writes Heidi Jon-Paolo Carfa on CBC's Facebook page. "It's a snowball -- constant slowing down and draining the system. People need common sense. My parents didn't run us to the ER for every cough and flu. It's insane!"[3] "People need to stop going to the ER or family doctor for every little sniffle and cough. I'm a nurse who has worked in a walk-in/family practice office and have seen the total waste of health care dollars on people who come in with a cough, runny nose or because they think they are constipated," writes Sue Moore on Facebook. "Our system cannot sustain this misuse."[3] Hypochondriacs will be increased if we accept Obamacare. Disadvantage 5 Increases deaths Now with the national health care plan, everybody has health insurance, but that doesn't mean that America's heath will improve. In fact, it goes downward. Under Obamacare, waiting times for treatment increases greatly. Richard F. Davies states and I quote: "In the Ontario example, 171 patients died while waiting for bypass surgery, 121 were removed from the list permanently because they had become medically unfit for surgery, 211 were taken off the list temporarily, 259 were removed from the list for unspecified reasons, and 44 left the province and underwent surgery elsewhere."[6] Another piece of evidence which I have from BBC News states and I quote: "Up to 500 heart patients die each year while they wait for potentially life-saving surgery, a report has said. An editorial in the British Medical Association journal Heart said that the only way to prevent these deaths would be to perform the operations as soon as the heart condition was diagnosed. This is what happens in the private sector, it said, but NHS patients are often put on a waiting list because of other pressures to health service resources." [4] The national health care system is killing a multitude of people because of the very lengthy waits they have. If we adopt this system we are likely to have the same results. Disadvantage 6 Kills the elderly The patients who died as a result of the waiting list may have been killed unintentionally. But there are cases which euthanasia seem to be the problem. Stephen John Doughty, a British Labour Party politician states and I quote: "NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday. Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial "death pathway" into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly... There are around 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in hospital or under NHS care. Around 29 per cent " 130,000 " are of patients who were on the LCP." [5] The UK is killing their elderly, and if we adopt national health care it is going to be the US who is killing their elderly. Now I am going to refute your three arguments Argument 1 (They didn't read what it does.) I researched about Obamacare and that is why I was able to give these disadvantages. Argument 2 (They were told by CNN and Fox.) I never once cited CNN or Fox News and I still was able to give these disadvantages. Argument 3 (They dismissed it because they don't like president Obama.) Just because you dislike Obamacare, that doesn't mean that you only dislike Obama. Most people don't care for Obamacare because of all the negative affects that it will have on them and this country. Summary [ Creates a socialistic government] [Increases cost] [ Discourages doctors] [Increased delay because of hypochondriacs] [Increases deaths] [Kills the elderly] [1] http://www.merriam-webster.com... [2]http://www.heritage.org... [3]http://www.cbc.ca... [4]http://news.bbc.co.uk... [5]http://www.dailymail.co.uk... [6]http://www.discoverthenetworks.org...