Life has more meaning with God

I would like to remind him that he cannot write anything next round besdies "thanks for the debate". If he continues, and writes anything else including rebuttals or arguments, he will automatically lose 7 points. Rebuttals "1) My argument wasn't about Christianity being right or wrong. I said most people don't share the same beliefs and therefore have a different meaning of life, and it is unreasonable to claim most people live with no real meaning because they follow a wrong religion. Claiming the meaning of life is given by the Bible is claiming only Christians know the meaning of life and for everyone else (5 billion people) life doesn't have a meaning at all. I hope you can understand my argument now and debunk it next round. " Sorry for the misconception, and I thank my opponent for further clarifying his previous argument. This debate is whether there is more meaning with or without God. These other people also believe in a God. Though the debate mainly focused the christian God, other gods could be considered as well. They all have a God, which means they have a clear meaning which is written in their holy books. So they all have clear understandings of what their basic meaning is. Now since other religions are included, we would look at people who don't believe in God. "Overall, 84 percent of the world's inhabitants, which it estimated at 6.9 billion, identify with a religion, according to the study entitled "The Global Religious Landscape" issued by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life on Tuesday. " [1] So only 16 percent of the world is not connected to religion, and don't believe in a God. These people have no understanding on what their meaning is, as I have already explained, and proven. So they have no meaning at all. People who believe in a God will have more meaning obviously, considering they actually have one. "Look at how many times you used the word "God" to describe the meaning of life. For a Christians the meaning of life is dictated by the Bible. A Christian has no meaning for life without the Bible. " This is irrelevant. Yes we need the bible for meaning. So what? We have meaning with the Bible, and that's what we know. Without the bible, or any other holy book, we have no meaning at all. "True, if by infinite you mean limited by the Bible. " But the meaning for our life in the Bible is infinite. There are billions of hidden explanations, and expectations for our plan, and what our meaning is. Just because something is dictated by something else, doesn't make it any lesser. "By true meaning, you mean divine meaning, or a meaning given by a god. In the scenario I presented, there is no god, and therefore the idea of a divine meaning doesn't exist in the first place. " Yes but in a scenario to which we believe in God, there is much more meaning than without God. "This is very similar to objective morality. Objective morality can only exist if there is a god to provide the moral code. In a universe with no god, objective morality can still exist, but not as a divine moral code, but a man-made one. If there is no god at all, there is no one to give us that moral code, so we have to make one up. With or without a god, our moral code would be the same and it would have the same significance. " Yes but in a world without God, objective morallity would be decided by man. Now if man were to decide, everyone would have different ideas. Since there is no single meaning that leads to an infinite amount, everyone would have a different one. If everyone had a different one, we would not have any meaning, since we are just making things up. We know they aren't true because everyone else has their own idea, so there is never a right one. Without a right one, there isn't one at all. "The same goes for the meaning of life. If there is no god, there is no divine meaning, but that doesn't mean we can't find our own meaning of life, just like we can find our own moral standards without divine guidance. " But divine guidance is proof. Without such guidance, we would make things up. We can make anything our meaning, but it doesn't make it true without proof. "The meaning of life without god is not precise, witch make any meaning true if you believe in it. " It does not matter if it is precise or not. At least we have meaning with God. Without God, we have no idea what it is, so we create various incorrect possibilities. And your second argument is completly false. Witches can't make any meaning true, because witches aren't real. Closing statements In conclusion, with God, we understand what our meaning is. Our meaning is to please God. To do this, we need to do various things, such as be a good person, not rely on our own understanding, bring people back to God etc. All these things we need to do bring so much meaning behind pleasing God. Because of such, our meaning is infinite, making it huge, and impossible to overcome. Without God, we have no idea what our meaning is. We can make one up, but it will never be true, because you can't be sure. Since everyone thinks the meaning is different, we have no idea if our meaning is even resonable. Even the best philosiphers in the world had no idea what the meaning of life is. Since without God, we can't find our meaning, or understand what it is, we don't have one in the first place. With God: Infinite meaning. Without God: Infinite possibilities, but no meaning at all. Thanks for the debate. If you continue and rebuttal, you will lose 7 points. Sources:1. . http://www.huffingtonpost.com...