A Divine Being Created The Universe

No worries about the forfeit, it's ok, I've been pretty busy at work too, no biggy. Pro claims: " Con's argument is basically the universe doesn't need God to exist so he did not create the universe." My Response: Nope. My argument is basically the universe wasn't created, because creation is a temporal concept contingent on time, which did not exist at [+0,-0], therefore creation is impossible. Positive energy and negative energy were expressed from quantum fluctuations through the big bang. Pro posits: "are [snowflakes] really merely the result of an unnatural process by itself?" My Response: Unnatural process? No. What I think Pro meant to say was, "Are snowflakes merely the result of a natural process by itself?" To which I respond yes. The water cycle and the freezing of condensed moisture in clouds are both natural processes that, by themselves, allow for beautifully ordered snowflakes to result; no intelligence is needed. Pro surmises: "We used to think mechanical gears were human invention until we found it in the Issue leafhopper, an insect that uses those mechanical gears for precision when jumping. Do these mechanical gears not imply a divine designer?" My Response: These mechanical gears do not imply a divine designer. I was eating lobster at a seafood restaurant when I realized that lobsters must be designed, because they have tongs for claws used for precision when defending themselves. There I was, using a human-made tong-like claw cracker on a tong-like claw... All this time I thought that tongs were a human invention, but now, poof, I can only conclude that there must be a designer of the lobster's claws on my plate. Wait, wait, wait. Maybe just because the claws of a lobster kind of look like the tongs that a human would make, doesn't mean that the claws of the lobster share a similar origin with the tongs of the human. Just like how krill have a leaf blower, or the barnacle has a rake, or the coconut crab has a crowbar, or stomatopods have a sledgehammer, or caprella have a clamp, or remipedes have an oar. This link below is an interactive picture clicking activity that shows the human-like tools that crustaceans use in nature. http://evolution.berkeley.edu... According to Berkeley: "[A]rthropod limbs have diversified over evolutionary time into a variety of useful shapes...arthropod legs can be adapted to do tough jobs (like prying open clam shells and slicing up other arthropods)...[,and] range of motion provided by joints allows the limbs to evolve a variety of functions...having many legs means that there are more legs to handle specialized tasks...[legs] can evolve to probe, grasp or swim." http://evolution.berkeley.edu... So, even though these gears are found in some insect, it is not an indication that the organism must be designed, because it is more likely an indication that the organism acquired the ability/tool over evolutionary time to survive long enough to reproduce. Pro then begins proselytizing: "The Bible claims to be of God and it gives evidence of his power through the fulfillment of the specific Bible prophecies written down before the events. The destruction of the most powerful city in the world, it's conqueror, and its eternal desolation were written down some 200 years before it happened. Many have tried to rebuild Babylon and it is still ruins today." My Response: Why should I consider anything the bible says to be authoritative on matters of the universe? If the bible is not being used to demonstrate a divine creation of the universe, then you're just proselytizing. Let's assume these were true prophecies...what does that have to do with the "creation" of the universe? The bible predicted something correctly, therefore we live in a divinely created universe? Non sequitur. Coincidences or not, prophecies do not speak to the origins of our universe. I continue to reject the claim that a divine being created the universe.