In WWI, Russia played a more important role in the defeat of the Central Powers than France.

"I have argued that Russia also played huge roles in defeating Austria and the Ottoman Empire and like I said earlier, France never did anything to defeat Austria."1) Russia didnt play a huge role in defeating the Ottoman Empire, that was the British2) Russia only managed to 'defeat' Austria after 2 years into the war after they lost a massive amount of territory beforehand, they didnt bring them to a swift stalemate like France did to Germany in France. "Why use a battle that took place long before the Brusilov Offensive in order to make the Brusilov Offensive look unimportant."Because if France didnt win a single battle until 2 years into the war Like Russia did, then the Central Powers would have easily won the war since Russia fell on its a** either way. "My point was that while France had allies fight alongside the French army and prevent Germany from defeating France, Russia had nobody"And your point is faulty because Russia WAS helped by France in its allies since they were the ones who kept more then half of German forces out of Russia. You act like Russia was on its own in WWI because you are ignoring the fact that there was an entirely different front being waged on the other side of Europe that caused the Central Powers to split their forces into two..... Even though that was still enough manpower to bring Russia to its knees. "if Britain have not been fighting with France, France would most likely have lost even if Germany was forced to fight on two fronts."True. Without Britain, France would likely have fallen and the Central Powers would have won.....But if they lost only Russia, France would NOT have fallen... And I know that because that is exactly what happened, Russia surrendered in the war and left france and its allies on their own, yet they still won. "Sure they may have been able to halt Germany at the Marne but there were plenty more German reinforcements who came to fight France later on in the war. "And the reason that happened was because Russia surrendered after getting its a** whipped. "Tannesberg was not about Russia trying to prevent Germany from pouring into Russia. It was about Germany trying to prevent Russia pouring into Germany. "What the f*ck ever, the point is they still lost badly and left the door open for Germany and Austria to pour into Russia whereas France actually managed to put up a fight. Fact: France managed to regain all of its territory before Germany signed an armisticeCon: "I don't understand how that is an argument"France and its allies led the charge to purge the Germans out of France, and they used that momentum to ultimately bring an end to WWI with a surrender from the Central Powers. Russia lost even more territory than France did and because they couldnt take any of it back they actually had to surrender, nearly causing the Central Powers to win the war. "However I cannot understand what is so strategic about regaining land"Well clearly you dont know a single thing about history then. "Also, France would never have regained any of that territory had it not been for Russia"They did regain all of it without Russia though.... Thats how the war ended remember?================================================================================================Conclusion: Argument Points: The simple fact is both sides cdid ontribute tremendously to the outcome of WWI, but there are many key differences between how both sides performed and what happened to them in the war: - France managed to bring the German invasion of France to a quick halt and forcing the western front into a stalemate - Russia suffered loss after loss for years before finally winning a battle, and the still surrendered in the end anyways.- France forced a bloody stalemate early on in the western front and kept more Germans out of Russia then Russia kept out of FrancAnd the biggest difference of all: When Russia surrendered, Germany almost overwhelmed France and its allies with reinforcements but were again quickly stopped by French and British forces, effectively ending any hojpes for the Central powers to win WWI. This means that Russia was expendable towards the end. Had France been the one who surrendered then Russia would have faced the wrath of the German reinforcements, meaning Russia would also likely have fallen since their country imploded under half of those forces in their territory anyways. No matter how you look at it, Russia at the most played an equal role to defeating the central powers as France did. They did not play a greater role though. Conduct Points:While both sides did treat each other equally sh**ty, Pro was the one who tried to blackmail others into voting for him on this debate by threatening to vote against people in other debates.... Bad language is one thing, but blackmail is a much mroe massive violation of conduct. Also guys FYI: If Stalin challenges you to a debate, do yourself a favor and dont accept. He will resort to calling you a f****t and act like a complete child to you outside the debate just because you offended his precious mother Russia, which can lick my boot for all I care. Source points: Point of sources is to substantiate arguments, and we both did that to a reasonable degree. Grammer points: We both misspelled some stuff here and there, but overall all the arguments were readable.