Morality is Necessarily Absolute

“All that the quote is saying is that just cause you think it is wrong doesn't make it wrong. It is mutually beneficial because it helps negate aggravation between people. ” Alright, fair enough. However, even if it were simply to avoid conflict, that would still give moral weight to the action if it is a moral response to a moral action. “I find it funny how my opponent drops the name Hitler to illicit an emotional response from readers. Hitler never actually killed people, he ordered it done. Anyways it depends on how I want to respond. Most likely I will not intervene because it would endanger my life. I care more about my life than that someone. ” I only mention Hitler because he is an easily identifiable figure. Yes I know that he personally was not responsible for the killing, I thought about that but it is simpler to attribute it to Hitler indirectly. Let me ask it a different way, what if that person was your child? Could there be any morally negative effect from an appeal to emotion? “It is true in their eyes. ” “Due to the fact that morality is not definite, math is. If you can prove morality with math, check your figures. ” Just because it is true in their eyes does not mean that it is true universally. This is the reason I brought up the universality of Math in the first place. “So it is wrong to eat pork universally, due to Islamic people being forbidden from eating pork. ” There is one right answer to that question, and so between me, the pig eater and the Muslim, one of us is wrong. Now it is not wrong not to eat pork we could both agree on that the contention is on the action of eating pork, of which there is only one correct answer. “My opponent claims murder is wrong where as in parts of Africa murder is glorified because it signals that the killer is a man/women of power who has defend their land. Thus defeating your claim. ” Again, those other cultures are wrong. Just because someone does something does not make it right. “Also if all laws were to support morality in all respects we would be 1984. ” That is interesting, as much of my inspiration for the last round came from 1984 because even if the government tells us one thing that does not make it true. [1] “Did you read your own question? I called it true because it says absolutes are not absolutes. My opponent even stated it includes morality saying that it is not absolute. My opponent has actually refuted himself. ” Where did I say that because it includes morality it is not absolute? “Of course that is how the human mind works and also shows how morality is subjective to other people. Though for a winner to be decided in accordance with debate. org standards the votes chose due to their own reasoning. ” According to a relativist world view, we could both be winners in our own eyes, however, as clearly on this site there are winners and losers that is not the case. That is not to say that the site sets up the standard for the rest of the world but rather uses its own criteria on top of the standard that is already present universally. “ As you may see above no sources are provided though this debate, no serious Point being made. ” The reason I didn’t source anything is because the arguments behind my points are not physically evident, rather they are proved through logic and reason. For the sake of evidence however I will cite some examples on the subject: If moral nihilism were true then abolitionists would have no reason to push for the end of slavery, there would be no reason to oppose any form of killing, and there would be no reason to value anything including life. There will never be any justice under such a system. By trying to convince me of the truth of moral nihilism you refute the lack of absolutes by making an absolute assertion. How can it be correct if according to its own standard there is no such thing as correct? Therefore any form of moral relativism remains unprovable. [2]My opponents view of Moral Nihilism has failed to hold by its own assertions. 1 George Orwell, 1984 2 . http://www.philvaz.com... . http://www.youtube.com...