One Piece Universe vs. Naruto Universe

1. Superior Weapons Con states the Marines won't expect jutsu like fireballs; however, the Marines have experienced attacks like these on a much larger scale from devil fruit (DF) users. The ninjas, on the other hand, have never actually seen a gun or how it works. Jugo’s chakra cannons aren't an exception, since they shoot chakra (not bullets) and don't look like a gun. 2. Logia Users Con states that genjutsu affects the mind; however, he's only partially correct. “Genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim’s brain,” which in turn affects the cerebral nervous system of the victim [1]. No one in the OPverse possesses chakra, and with no chakra to manipulate in the brain, there is no genjutsu. Instead of chakra, everyone in the OPverse possesses Haki, but not everyone has completely mastered it; thus, only some people are capable of actually utilizing it [2]. This isn't to say that Haki won't work on the Naruverse. Unlike genjutsu, Haki doesn't require the victim to possess a certain type of life force; thus, it will still work effectively against the Naruverse [2]. Also, concerning Haki, Con is completely wrong. No where in the source provided does it state that Haki is used to predict their opponent’s attacks based on what they already know. Also, there is proof that completely contradicts this notion. When Enel/Eneru fought Luffy, he had no idea of Luffy’s powers. In fact, Enel/Eneru didn’t even know that such a thing as rubber existed (what Luffy's made of). Despite this completely unexpected and unknown power, Enel/Eneru was still capable of using his Haki. Furthermore, Haki is used by a plethora of characters. Con counts 20 off the wiki, but neglects to realize that two of those 20 are actually groups of people; thus, it is logical to conclude that there are approximately several hundred Haki users (HU). This is because everyone with the rank Vice Admiral (VA) and above in the Marines has Haki, and the Marines span the entire earth, so there will be plenty of VA's and above. Lastly, Con attempts to refute the point that Haki will not work on those who can shoot jutsu from afar; however, that doesn’t change the fact that everyone an HU can see will become unconscious. Also, the range of an HU is very far. Luffy was capable of knocking out over 50,000 soldiers in battle with a single glance [3]. That pretty much equates to several villages alone. Now, Con is probably going to try to prove that Haki will knock out the OPverse too, but that isn't true. HU's are capable of selecting who they want to knock out. Lastly, Con completely ignored HU's ability to create an invisible armor around the user that can be used for defense or to enhance attacks greatly. 3. Significant Characters Nico Robin: Shikimaru wouldn't magically target Nico Robin first. He might target her after thousands of his friends die and he figures out it's her doing it. Let’s not forget that Robin is capable of sprouting her limbs wherever she wants mentally. Shikimaru is only capable of controlling the physical body, which means that she can still sprout limbs out of peoples' bodies and snap their necks, since those limbs aren’t being affected by the shadow possession jutsu. Whitebeard, Kizaru, and Mihawk: I have already proven why genjutsu won’t work on them. Let’s not forget that Whitebeard is capable of tanking unbelievable amounts of damage (i.e. when he was old and weak he received hundreds of sword wounds, hundreds of cannon wounds, a hole ripped through his chest, magma wounds, and magma burning half of his face off, yet he was still beat entire armies). Also, Con states that a plethora of ninja are capable of effectively using genjutsu, yet doesn’t list a single one. In fact, the wiki itself states that genjutsu is tricky and hard to use [1]. The average ninja finds it amazing if you can make someone disoriented so that everything around them turns fuzzy, so it isn’t likely that there will be many skilled genjutsu users. 4. Additional Arguments Con asks me to provide evidence of Luffy dodging a laser. http://www.youtube.com... In case the video is not working, then please search up on YouTube, “One Piece 521 Luffy (Time skip) vs Pacifista.” Con’s Arguments – 1. Nora Clan (NC) The problem with this argument is that while using the shadow possession jutsu, the user is harmed by whatever their victim is harmed, as was shown in the Chunin exams when Shikimaru used the jutsu on a sound ninja. 2. Yamanaka Clan (YC) Same problem as NC; if victim drowns, so does the YC. Also, while using the jutsu, they can't control their own body, meaning someone could kill them. Lastly, this jutsu is extremely hard to hit with. Luffy, in base form, was able to dodge lasers, and in Gear Second his speed is tenfold. Most of the top-tier people, if not all, are able to keep up with, or close to, Luffy’s Gear Second, while some call his Gear Second “slow.” The Yamanaka Clan doesn’t stand a chance. 3. Kisame While Kisame may be a good counter to DF users, he’s still completely outclassed. How can he hit something moving at the speed of light (Kizaru), or someone that can absorb any fluid, including water (Crocodile), or someone who can send a massive wall of fire/magma capable of taking down approximately five tremendous Marine ships (Ace/Akainu, respectively), or someone who can freeze all the water (Aojiki) or … you get the point. Also, water won’t always work against DF users with Haki. Remember, HU's can create an invisible armor so that water doesn't touch them. Lastly, when a DF user is submerged in water, it takes a while for them to lose their powers and not be able to move. In that time, they can do plenty of things to save themselves. -- I thank Con for a wonderful debate, and I enjoyed it very much. Hopefully, we can do another debate like this in the future. Sources – [1] http://naruto.wikia.com... [2] http://onepiece.wikia.com... [3] http://sibattledome.wikispaces.com...