U.S.A. should stop selling firearms and change the gun law. (continued)

Final round sigh... "This is not true. Switzerland sells them to citizens. And they're not the only ones." Oh well, my bad I guess. "It is simply a matter of risk versus reward. There will always be a demand for firearms, so they would always be smuggled in. If enough money is offered, smugglers would take the risk." What I mean about the difficulty of smuggling is that if more smugglers are caught, less smuggling would occur. Improving the anti-smuggling programs would ensure that not all, but most of the smugglers get caught. Less succesfull smuggling = less guns in America by smuggling. "Hitler did not openly come out and say he was going to exterminate the Jews but he did." Hitler DID come out openly, pinning the blame on Jews and said to exterminate them all. "It is your opinion. There are many many people who do not fear firearms. Unless you can come up with a source that says so, it is your opinion. I'm sure some people ARE afraid of guns, but lots of people do not fear them." Guess I just put this aside. There are both people that likes guns and those that fear guns. "So now private security guards are allowed guns? Why do they as (private citizens) get to carry guns but not normal citizens? Previously you stated that only public officials should be able to acquire them. I understand you're from a culture where things like open-carry simply do not exist. But open-carry is common in the USA and all because somebody has a gun does not mean people fear them or start panicking. And it doesn't really matter if guns are "allowed" in the banks, somehow I doubt a bank robber cares." Guards has firearms because they are guards. Being a guard means you must guard something by all means possible. If criminals wants to rob a bank, they have to deal with the guards first. However, letting civilians walk in banks with a gun in the holster makes everyone go alert. The civilian with a gun could be a mass murderer or wanting to rob a bank and he could pull a gun and wreak havoc inside a bank. Same in the streets. You may see nice people with firearms with them, but you will never know if someone suddenly walks up to you and shoots you suddenly at the streets. "Its the same with knives or other weapons as well." How can a knife be the same as a gun? Gun is a ranged weapon, while the knife can only be used by stabbing someone close. Also, since most house has a baseball bat, its works better against a knife wielding burglar then a burglar armed with a firearm. "Why wouldn't they fight back? At any rate, all because a country has battleships, tanks, and planes does not mean that an insurgency is doomed to fail. See the USSR invasion of Afghanistan [2] and the insurgency against the French in Algeria. [3]" The soviet invasion on Afghan and Algeria has nothing to do with the population armed with firearms. Soviet has special force units like Spetsnaz and are heavily armed while Algeria has mortar and heavy weapons. No shop in the world sells mortars or rocket launchers. "The Jews had no soldiers to support to help them. There is not always going to be somebody to help. Honestly I would hope that a enemy would use carpet bombing and naval bombardment against an insurgency, they have tenacity to kill innocent civilians and push them over to the insurgency." You want a country to kill hundreds of families including childrens just to get people join the insurgency? That doesn't stop a war. But even so, thats no reason to give them a gun. "The point is not if gun related crime went up. Its that overall crime did. This is because citizens can no longer use guns to defend themselves. When somebody decided to mug you, as an example, there is a a cost-benefit ratio to consider. If the mugger has a bat and guns are illegal and he is planning to mug a small women walking, he knows he can most likely succeed without serious bodily harm or death. Even if she has pepper spray, there's not going to be any permanent damage. In a society with guns, there is the same situation. Now the mugger has to take into consideration that the target may have a gun, and that could result in death or serious bodily injury. Even if the mugger has a gun, there is still a good chance of this occurring. Obviously some would take the risk anyway- but the cost-benefit ratio is tilted far better in a society that allows law-abiding citizens to carry firearms." We SHOULD be looking at the gun crime, since the amount of crimes involved are increasing every year! The cause of the increase is of course by the fact that you can buy guns from the shop. Since we all know that guns are far more dangerous then knifes, guns shouldn't be sold. Now you keep saying that a pepperspray or taser isn't effective, BUT IT IS EFFECTIVE. Pepperspray can blind and taser can stun. Now why do you want to cause permanent damage anyway? You're not here to finish off the thug and the damage that pepperspray or taser causes is long enough for you to run anyway. "All of which can only take on a single target at once. There's three big thugs. A gun could take all three, pepper spray or a taser could not." Pepper spray could take on 3 big thugs as long as you dont run out of it. "But why do they need guns if there are none in society? You've already used this argument against me elsewhere- so what make the police need guns if there are none?" And here comes by returning argument. Police are here to fight crimes so its socially accepted that they have guns. The police risk themself to save others so why do you want to forbid them from using a gun? For example a hostage situation where a thug is armed with a knife with a hostage, you could just shoot the thug from afar. Also by giving other citizens guns, like I said can raise alert since a citizen could be a criminal wanting to kill someone and a hostage situation with a thug armed with a firearm is EVEN more dangerous. "And a citizen is powerless to stop it. Now imagine if the teacher had a gun- that would take care of the murderer quickly. Even assuming the murderer had a gun instead of a knife, the teacher could have the chance to end it." Anyone can start a school shooting, even a teacher. If a teacher comes in with a gun in the classroom, do you think all students in the classroom would relax? The teacher could draw the pistol and shoot everyone at every moment. But firearms aren't allowed in school now and the school shooting could be prevented just by having the school check more frequently on firearms. Gun crimes and school shootings would lessen alot if the shop stops selling guns. Even now, school shooting happens almost 5 times every year with each year increasing which is bad since students should be safe in education. (Virginia Tech Massacre is a good example) Also there are those occassions where childrens are playing with a gun because they don't know what it is and end up killing somebody with it. Vote pro :P Source: http://www.learnaboutguns.com... http://en.wikipedia.org... http://en.wikipedia.org...