There is nothing wrong with incestuous relationships

I know from past experiences that my opponent will surely offer some strong arguments and I look forward to them. Firstly, as stated in the first round I think incestuous relationships are socially acceptable if (and only if) there are no children born out of these relationships. One argument that could possibly be raised is that a child could still be conceived in these relationships, and then to adhere to my premise this baby needs to be aborted. However, that would be a debate on the ethics and or social acceptance of abortion and not incestuous relationships. As such this debate focuses purely on sexual or non-sexual incestuous relationships and their social acceptance. So why do I feel that incestuous relationships are socially acceptable? If two or three or four people are willing and compliant partners in a relationship, i. e. polygamy, male female, female female, etc. , who are we to take this right away from them. This is especially true when we consider that any activities these people are involved in take place behind closed doors and is essentially a personal activity. These activities can be considered liberties in so much that the government and society should have no recourse to determine what types of consensual relationships we engage in. Using this same line of reasoning it holds that an incestuous relationship should not be judged inappropriate by society when it is a personal consensual relationship. The question could also arise is incest actually socially acceptable? If we consider the Japanese society that is very sexually progressive on many fronts, we see that indeed incest is socially acceptable. This is evident in their pornography markets where incest is a market that sells. In the same way, markets exist for this incest porn in other countries. (1) How big these markets are exactly is unknown for the same reason that we don't know what other fetishes are top selling. We just know that these markets exist as it fits the supply and demand concept of economics. To the readers, at this point I have not included references as younger readers should search for porn and not get it dished up so easily. Maybe I should also mention that on 4chan's infamous /b/ forum there are often incest threads. I think all these examples point to the fact that incest is already socially acceptable we just don't want to acknowledge this fact. Another example of society becoming more accepting of incestuous relationships lies in the fact that some states, as well as other countries, allow a person to marry their cousin. (2) However, even these laws which prohibit incest in states and countries have only been applied in recent history and this is partly or mostly due to the influence of the church. (3) To digress, we do know the church is completely uptight when it comes to sexual matters, as such it should come as no surprise that the laws were changed to adhere to their morality. So while cousin relationships are not normally what someone thinks of when they think incestuous relationships. Even these cousin relationships are prohibited mainly for reasons of offspring safety, but as the proposition of the debate states children will not be born. In closing, the biggest problem with incestuous relationships is the stigma attached to it by society due to congenital birth defects. However, if no babies are been born into these relationships why should two people that love each other be prohibited from sharing a relationship. I hand the debate over to my opponent for opening statements and/or rebuttals. (1) . http://www.chicagoreader.com... (2) . http://www.cousincouples.com... (3) . http://pennpress.typepad.com...