Creationism: God created a perfect universe in 7 days

Thanks Pro. So begins rebuttals. 1. The complexity of organisms demand that there is a Creator You can’t back those points up empirically, because I could point out that you could say that about anything and never have to prove your side of the argument. For example, you could say that the universe is complex, and so a god must have made it, and I could say perhaps we should continue studying the universe in a scientific way, and then come to conclusions with evidence. I’d say it’s the classic god of the gaps argument, but it isn’t even really that. We have answers to the DNA issue you brought up. DNA may be complex, but to assume that its complexity could only be explained through by the existence of a god is a bit ignorant to the science, not to mention a bit baffling. DNA has been exceptionally useful in further proving evolution. The human genome project, for example, recently found the sequence of the A, T, G and C building blocks of our three billion bases of DNA. Through the sequencing of our DNA, we found that the human race as a whole is 99.9% identical (and that we are 98% similar to chimps); that the .1% missing percent is what makes up the several million fluctuating bases that gives us unique traits. It is not random chance. It’s natural selection. It’s For example, we see a similar kind of evolution in single cell organisms. If a single cell organism like euglena can evolve antennae for light, then surely the process of DNA evolving in organisms won’t be as shocking. So, to answer your question: “Have you ever seen a code or language not written by an intelligent mind?” Yes, I have. We’ve only begun the process of uncovering the code we naturally evolved on our journey from the simplest of organisms to the more complex beings we are now. 2. Chinese characters point to Genesis I’m trying to figure out how referencing an ancient Chinese myth about a world-wide flood/the Garden of Eden proves that it scientifically/historically happened and can be proved. As I pointed out before, such stories ran rampant in many cultures. Examine the story more logically - try and picture this story happening in your own neighborhood: A man who lived thousands of years ago builds a boat 150 feet longer than any wooden ship we can build today, (being that wood is a terrible material for shipbuilding, being that it warps and bends and breaks apart) and not only that, but then somehow collects two of every animal, loads them all into a boat in only seven days, feeds them, keeps them from murdering each other/escaping and then somehow rebuilds a devastated earth with only his family. Here’s a neat table: Log mass range (g) 0-1 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5 5-6 6-7 7-8 Ave. mass (kg) (p. 13) .005 .05 .5 5 50 316 3160 31600 # of mammals (p. 10) 466 1570 1378 1410 1462 892 246 7424 # of birds (p. 10) 630 2272 1172 450 70 4 4598 # of reptiles (p. 10) 642 844 688 492 396 286 270 106 3724 total # of animals 1738 4686 3238 2352 1928 1182 516 106 15746 Ave. yearling mass (kg) (p. 66) .005 .05 .5 5 10 100 300 1000 Total mass after one year 8.7 234.3 1619 11760 19280 118200 154800 106000 411902 Total mass assuming adults 8.7 234.3 1619 11760 96400 373512 1630560 3349600 5463694 Additional clean birds 1575 5680 2930 1125 175 10 11495 Additional ruminants (138 genera) 260 420 10 690 Additional clean animal mass (yearling weight, kg) 8 284 1465 5625 4350 43000 3000 47600 The ark specified in the bible mathematically would not have been big enough to house the animal kingdom. Better evidence (which I will provide) would be something like this: (https://iambilly.wordpress.com...) s://iambilly.files.wordpress.com...; alt="grand33" /> This nifty illustration of the Grand Canyon leaves no room for a flood. Radiometric dating again places the Vishnu formation at around 1.7 Billion – 2 Billion years old. Each layer is packed with evidence for the time the layer was formed. Scientists can see advances and regressions in oceans and seas, swamp formations, erosion, deserts, fossils of dinosaurs, of ancient mammals, ancient fish, algae, lizards – you name it. Creationists sum up the Grand Canyon as the result of a flood. This is ludicrous. If there was a catastrophic flood, they would see it in the layers, and they don’t. Oh, and by the way, the Chinese characters thing has been rebuked since it was introduced - http://rationalwiki.org... “The idea behind this setup is to suggest that the character refers to the eight people that were on the Ark: Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives. However, CMI is making a crucial mistake in disassembling the character completely. What they ignore is the fact that Chinese characters are not made up exclusively of components that provide a meaning, but also of phonetic radicals that are supposed to offer a clue as to how they're pronounced. In both of the cases above, they simply skip this part in order to extract the meaning they want from it. The first character does not feature 八 and 口 as separate components, but rather as the combination 㕣 yǎn, with the (irrelevant) meaning of "marsh". Likewise, the second one features 公 g!3;ng, "public" as the additional component. Another point which they ignore completely is that there are specific kanji/hanzi for an ark - 方!311; (fāngzh!3;u) in Chinese or the Japanese 箱!311; hakobune which translates roughly as "square-boat", or "box-boat".[4] Noah's Ark would be |94;|50;{98;箱!311; - Noa no Hakobune.”3. Evidence challenging Old Earth A classic argument. You’re right, carbon dating isn’t ideal. That’s why we use radiometric dating instead. I won’t waste time trying to argue that carbon dating is perfect, because scientists don’t use that method, and even when they do/did, another method is always used to verify. It’s basic science. Don’t expect one method to be perfect. Cross reference. Which is why if I could refer you back to the handy table and the link to the full table you can see that they used radiometric dating and other methods and still came to the same conclusions. http://eveloce.scienceblog.com...