Execution is more important than an idea for a successful business.

I'd first like to address Pro's counter-examples regarding Tony's toy store and Shane's shoe store. He and I disagree about whether or not market analysis is part of the brainstorming stage (idea), or execution stage. From my position, market analysis is clearly a part of the 'idea' phase. To consider "building a toy store" as being the only idea is extremely limiting and completely untrue. What consists of an idea is more than just one thought - it takes strategy and planning. Realistically, an idea would sound more like, "I'm going to build a toy store in AllKidsCity, because I think that would generate a lot of success. " That's an idea. The execution aspect comes into play when a business owner must decide how they are going to go about perfecting this idea via proper execution. Building a toy store in GrownUpTown would be a BAD idea; even with the best execution (great location within the town, good pricing, great staff, etc. ) the idea would not generate a successful business. However, a toy store built in AllKidsCity (a good idea) would still be more successful than a toy store being built in GrownUpTown, even if the execution wasn't as great. .. say, a slight miscalculation in pricing, a less than stellar staff, etc. These things would affect the overall sucess of the toy store; however, the idea to have it in AllKidsCity alone would make it more successful than if it were a store in GrownUpTown. You have to keep in mind during this debate that PLANNING (market analysis, in this example) is a strategy and absolutely part of the IDEA phase - not execution phase. But don't take my word for it. Consider instead the reality of an entrepreneur X wanting to open up his own business. The first step he would take (considering he's not rich) would be to go to the bank and apply for a loan. The lender will say, "Okay - tell me your idea" in an attempt to see if whether or not person X has a good idea. If so, he will lend him the money to EXECUTE that idea. Well, if person X tells the lender that they would like to build a toy store, the lender would certainly inquire about where (in business: location, location, location! ). If X said he wanted to build this store in GrownUpTown, the lender would deny him the loan, and the execution phase would never even come into play. This ties into the fact that my opponent has not addressed the concept that I have reiterated in both of my previous rounds: THAT WITHOUT AN IDEA, THERE IS NOTHING TO EXECUTE! !! Clearly my opponent has avoided this very important argument because there is no arguing it. Even if he and I (or you, the reader) disagree on whether or not market analysis constitutes an idea phase or execution phase, the bottom line is that without an idea in general, the execution really becomes irrelevant. Say Tony went about executing things (i. e. hiring staff or ordering toys) without an idea -- there would be no point -- he'd just be out of a lot of money, and have a lot of toys and unnecessary staff. Now assuming he bought those toys and hired that staff and THEN decided to build a toy store, the IDEA to build the toy store after acquiring those things is still what makes his execution worth it. Thus there is no getting around the fact that in business, an idea is more important than execution. It simply is not the case. Back to Tony and Shane, in response to my opponent's example regarding the decision to sell toys online - I again disagree, and feel that this was a good IDEA that Tony put into place. He had the idea to sell his products online, and the execution aspect came into play when he decided to involve his sister (the computer graduate) to make it happen. If Tony simply told her to create a site to launch his toys, but did not give her any direction pertaining to his idea, the execution of creating the site would be pointless -- it would not reflect his idea, the idea that would generate a profit. In the "contrary scenario," Pro agrees with me that setting prices at too low is a bad EXECUTION flaw -- nobody has the IDEA to set prices low in order to generate a profit, right? Ha - tell that to Sam Walton (WALMART)! But in any event, my opponent was agreeing with me like I said, so I digress. But what I would really like to address is my opponent's bold claim, "Now customer would more than happy to get something for free but a business can't even survive by making customers happy that way; let alone being successful. Thus with good product and bad execution -- business fails! " First I'd like to remind everybody that we agreed SUCCESS can include either profit and/OR customer satisfaction. Thus, a business CAN be successful in one aspect by keeping their customers happy (and, loyal customers = good for business profits too) -- not every business revolves around generating a profit. An example would be Newman's Own salad dressing, in which the owner donates ALL profits and royalties after taxes to charity. Second I'd like to present a real-life example of an idea/execution dynamic. Consider Toshiba's recent torment on whether or not to go ahead and continue developing HD TV technology, or to cut their losses and instead move forward trying to expand with the new and improved (though more expensive) Blu Ray technology as instigated by Sony. The Original Idea: better quality TV. Toshiba's Execution: HDTV. Now, their execution turned out to be faulty as Blu Ray blew up (thanks in part to the release of PS3), so it would seem that the bad execution in this case outweighs the good idea. However, Toshiba did not give up. They cut their losses, and with deciding to more forward and expand to Blu Ray, this IDEA is sure to generate them future success. Their execution to actually develop the technology is what will back up the idea and create a profit. Still, if you don't buy that (though I'm not sure why you wouldn't), there is no getting around the fact that the original idea - better quality TV - is what set all of the execution in motion (research and development of new technology, etc). So there is really no way of getting around the fact that an idea is simply more important than the execution. You can't have one (execution) without the other (idea). Pro's next example is faulty at best. He writes, "Now lets say one has bad product idea and starts a business. An excellent execution consist of feedback and improvisation loop. Over time, the product will evolve. .. " -- Okay, the decision to evolve using customer feedback is a new IDEA, and the execution would involve putting that feedback into place. Again, his example only supports my position. His next 2 examples only further support my claims: "In fact, many people fail before starting a business because they're in search of a great idea. " -- Here Pro is admitting that a bad idea can make or break a business! And finally, he discusses the Facebook/ConnectU issue for which there was controversy regarding Mark Zuckerberg's possibile idea theft, so to speak. Pro writes, "Now both ConnectU and Facebook are based on same idea of online social networking; what differentiates them is the way they were executed. " I agree. But ConnectU wasn't fighting with Zuckerberg over his execution -- they were fighting with him because they accused him of stealing their IDEA. Thus execution is super important, but without a good idea, its useless. Consider the invention of skiis. The first ones were made out of wood, and the founding company was put out of business by a competitor who opted to expand on that idea by using fiberglass. Their execution of the idea was better, but without the idea for skiis, there would have been no company. Thus, all I can say - again and again - is that an idea is more important. I believe I have backed that up with my arguments. I also wish a round hadn't been forfeited so my opponent and I could debate these points.