Goku vs Superman proog goku won

I believe my opponent has misunderstood some of my statements. Also, many of his statements are false, and he has used extremely questionable sources. I shall describe all this in detail in my rebuttals, which will be followed by my concluding statements. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Rebuttals____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________So you did not refute my statement properly. To begin with, I was never trying to refute THAT particular statement. I was just bringing a point to notice. In case it isn't clear, I'll state it again:Goku has no contest against the strongest versions of Superman, and a fair fight can only be one in which Superman is given a handicap. But I also explicitly specified that this point has no effect to the outcome of this particular debate. I only stated it so that there's no dispute about that outside of this debate. -------------------------------------------------------------'Superman relies on his fist'. http://www.screwattack.com...Unfortunately, the source provided by Pro has little reliability. It is posted by a user called "UltimateSaiyan". The name of this user itself should be enough to conclude that his opinion would be biased, and hence cannot be relied upon. On the other hand, the original screwattack video was NOT made by any Superman fans, but by a neutral team. Even if it may not be believable, it's at least more credible than UltimateSaiyan's conclusions. ------------------------------------------------------------Yes its true he mainly relies in his fist and brute force. As showed in the Doomsday battle. .. My opponent is basing his conclusion entirely on the Doomsday fight. Superman didn't use heat vision or freeze breath because it would have practically no effect on someone of Doomsday's body structure. I don't see how Pro didn't understand that. -------------------------------------------------------------Also where is your proof that he knows lots of martial arts skillsHere it is: . http://www.comicvine.com...He learned Torquasm Rao and Torquasm Vo, and other advanced styles from Batman. Now, Batman knows 127 different disciplines of martial arts, so I'm making a pretty reasonable assumption when I say Superman has learned many disciplines of martial arts. I don't really understand Pro's statement "basically knew boxing and fist fight and a few fight styles of Kyrtonian". Doesn't that mean he knows more than Goku, who knows only TWO? Yes, Goku knows only TWO styles of martial arts, namely Kaio Ken and Kame Sennin style. This is in complete contradiction to Pro's assertions, which I shall now prove. Pro's statements:-----you cant be telling me that Goku only knows two fight styles when he has trained with- son gohan hyperbolic chamber So what exactly is Pro trying to say? That Gohan taught Goku a new martial arts style? I hardly believe it. ------ turtle hermit- King KaiI agree. Those two are the only persons who have taught him new styles. One each. ------ Trained himself in 100 times Earth gravityI'm sorry, but I can't help saying that this is an outrageous statement. Does one automatically learn a new martial arts style by training under high gravity? I really don't see what Pro is trying to insinuate. TRAINING IS HONING ONE'S EXISTING SKILLS, NOT LEARNING NEW ONES. Goku did train with many people, but all they did was help increase his strength. It is NEVER shown that he learned more martial arts skills. ------ He has trained with his grandfather GohanEven if he did, and he was taught a new style, that makes it THREE at most. ------ He has trained himself past the limits- He has trained and was able to posses new powers such as super strengthAgain, I fail to see how this means Goku has learned NEW disciplines. This argument simply defies logic. -------------------------------------------------------------' Goku cant survive in space'Another false statement and who told you that? - Vegeta and Goku are full blooded saiyans and clearly Vegeta managed to breathe in space so you cant say Goku cannot- Bardock fought Frieza in space you cant be telling me if Bardock can breathe in space why cant Goku cant. There is no clear evidenceFrieza wasn't lying. This contradiction is nothing but a PLOT HOLE in the manga. It is one of the many accuracies in the Dragon Ball series. . http://dragonball.wikia.com...I hardly believe that a youtube video can account for a plot hole. Such a mistake is commonplace in manga, and I don't blame my opponent for not realizing that. ------------------------------------------------------------You are wrong that he didn't die on Doomsday. .. .I'm not. Although there is no official statement about this, the most plausible theory is that Superman simply entered a comatose state. The title "Death of Superman" isn't exactly literal. In fact, a testament to this exists in the source provided by Pro himself:. http://en.wikipedia.org...If Superman returned after receiving enough energy, doesn't it mean that his consciousness never left his body? Then how can that be classified as "death"? Even in the DB series, when one dies, his soul leaves his body. Superman's didn't. So, he didn't die. ------------------------------------------------------------'Darkseid could beat Buu'Nope wrong again no evidence. . http://wiki.answers.com...Once again, Pro has provided a COMPLETELY unreliable source. For all we know, Pro himself provided the answer to that question. What credibility does this source have? I would like to provide a bit more reliable source:. http://www.superherodb.com...Goku is class 18. Darkseid is class 20. Goku is obviously higher than Buu. Therefore Darkseid is at a higher level than Buu. I hope that's enough to convince my opponent. NOTE: Superman is class 19, which is ALSO above Goku. And this doesn't even consider Superman Prime. ------------------------------------------------------------As goes for the first youtube video given by my opponent, it says that Superman at his peak can lift 100 tons. That is honestly one of the biggest mistakes I've ever seen. This source was supplied by Pro himself:On this page, however, it says that Superman can easily lift a quintillion (10^18) tons. A classic example of Pro's inconsistency. That's all I would like to say in this matter. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Conclusion___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________I shall now summarize and conclude the debate. ----------------------------------------------------------Superman, being able to survive in space (undisputedly), and not needing any food, has far better vitality than Goku. Goku's toughest enemies are far weaker than those face by Superman, such as Darkseid and Imperiex. Superman's knowledge of martial arts is almost certainly greater than Goku's. ---------------------------------------------------------My opponent has provided highly unreliable sources. Even in those, he has failed to closely examine and check the consistency of statistics such as Superman's strength. Pro has made over-exaggerations, such as Goku deflecting ki blasts as large as planets, and Goku learning martial arts by training under increased gravity. Pro has also made gross understatements, the best example of which would be his first video of round 3 which says Superman can lift only 100 tons. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________I rest my case. I believe I have adequately proved that Superman is far superior to Goku. The rest is up to the voters.