Naruto Uzumaki can beat Monkey D. Luffy in a fight, if not equally match him

THE NINE TAILS PROBLEM" the Nine Tails cannot be defeated as established by myself in the previous round. It is not possible to knock it unconscous.... Nine Tails is a fragmant of a God, therefore cannot be killed. It can only be sealed, which is something Luffy can't do, therefore Luffy can't defeat Nine Tails."When comparing the characters of two shows, it is necessary to make their fighting mechanisms compatible."Sealing" doesn't even EXIST in the One Piece world, just as Haki doesn't exist in the Naruto world. We must use logic to predict the effects of these mechanisms in their non-respective worlds, for the purposes of a realistic fight.We have decided that Nine Tails is either a Logia or made of Haki, and in either case, Luffy can defeat Nine Tails.Pro argues against the possibility of Nine Tails being a Logia:"The Nine Tails is a seperate being. It has it's own conciousness, that frequently communicates with its host Naruto... Logia has no conciousness, and is simply a tool manipulated by its user."So? If a gun was alive, it would still kill people the same way: by shooting. "It is possible to have two Devil Fruit powers... having two tailed beasts sealed within you is not possible"Actually, Blackbeard is the only character in One Piece to have two devil fruits, through a method which has not been revealed yet in the show. It is most likely an ability unique to his particular devil fruit (yami yami no mi)Sub-conclusion: Nine Tails CAN be a Logia.However, Pro offers up a second suggestion for compatibility: "it is more logical to assume that Haki in One Piece would be analogous to the the Chakra in Naruto... the Tailed Beast Mode is made of Chakra, therefore made of Haki."However, this point works against my opponent, as this would clearly make the Nine Tailed Fox a physical being that CAN be hit using haki-infused attacks! (ever heard of fighting fire with fire?)Based on this suggestion, Pro makes makes a case for Naruto's superior durability: " Luffy and Naruto have the same armor, therefore equal durability, counting out the fact that Naruto's armor heals him, which would make his armor superior to Luffy's."This would seem like a valid point on the surface, but here is the thing: the Nine Tails armor is a SEPARATE ENTITY from Naruto, and thus, once that separate entity has been defeated, Naruto is left with no armor. Meanwhile, Luffy's armor is ON his body, and once you break it, he can simply regenerate it.In conclusion, -- If Nine Tails is a Logia, Luffy's haki-infused attacks will work on it-- If Nine Tails is made of Haki, Luffy's haki-infused attacks will STILL work on itand...-- Naruto's armor heals him, but it is temporary-- Luffy's armor only protects him, but is permanent (through regeneration)Thus, Luffy and Naruto have EQUAL levels of durability.BRUTE STRENGTH"Luffy's Gears do not contribute to his brute strength at all!... Gears do not measure Luffy's physical strength. They are Luffy's battle techniques, like Naruto's Rasengan."When I say "brute strength", I'm talking about the sheer force of their physical attacks.The sole purpose of Gear Second and Gear Third is to add to that, so they do count...And anyways, Sage Mode and Kyuubi Mode are like that, too, so if we invalidate Luffy's Gears, then that invalidates Naruto's Modes as well, leaving both characters with nothing but the power of their muscles, and we have already established that Naruto comes no where NEAR Luffy in that sense.This argument only detracts from Pro's point. By his definition, Luffy has a HUGE advantage over Naruto in terms of brute strength. By my definition, Luffy would still win that contest, but not by such a huge margin.SPECIAL ADVANTAGES"Naruto cannot control his armor at all. The Nine Tailed Fox takes over completely. While it may seem that this would put Naruto at a disadvantage, in fact it doesn't. Who would know better as to how to move in a Fox's body than the Fox himself?"It has been shown that in that mode, the Nine Tailed Fox goes on a mad rampage with no regard for who Naruto's actual target is. This has been shown repeatedly throughout the show, with the problem becoming so so bad that Naruto has to have a ninja with him during training (Yamato) JUST to make sure he doesn't turn into Nine Tails!The Nine Tails Armor may give Naruto a huge boost in strength and defense, but the fact is, that Naruto cannot make Nine Tails do what he wants during battle, which means that by using the Nine Tails Armor, Naruto sacrifices his control over himself."...no matter how adaptable Luffy is, if the setting is underwater, there is no way he can adapt without a gadget of some sort."Frankly, Pro seems a bit obsessed with the battle being underwater.... How many underwater battles have there been throughout either series? Barely any. Underwater isn't Naruto's ideal battle field either; he has absolutely no experience in such a setting. Also, Pro disregards the fact that Luffy is perfectly capable of staying out of the water. I gave the example of Luffy's battle with Don Krieg, which happened on 2 ships in the middle of the ocean, yet Luffy didn't fall into the ocean at all, and that was BEFORE all his various upgrades.Pro overestimates the threat that water poses to Luffy."Excuse me, but HOW many times throughout the show has Luffy EVER encountered HUNDREDS of Naruto's Shadow Clones? You can't make assumptions like that without anything backing it up."Luffy has easily taken out 500 Marine soldiers at Ennies Lobby, 1000 zombies at Thriller Bark, countless marine soldiers at Marineford, and, most recently, 50,000 fishmen at Fishman Island. Numbers. Don't. Faze. Luffy. At. All.He can easily take out all the clones with Conqueror's Haki or Gomu Gomu no Jet Storm.SPEEDI really do apologize for bringing up this issue so late into the debate, but the argument I used to concede Naruto's speed actually was logically fallacious.I agree with Pro's contention that Naruto can move faster than light.However, Pro then goes on to state that "Luffy is in his Gear 2nd form, which is his fastest form. Notice that there are no instances in which he is so fast, he dissapears and reappears like Naruto did. However, his punches leave traces of condensed air, although not as big as a real sonic boom. Therefore, it is plausible to say that Luffy's top speed is similar to the speed of sound "First of all, he DOES move that fast...Look at videos 1 and 2. There are SEVERAL instances of him moving so much faster than light that he appears invsible.Second of all, Pro has mis-indentified the trails that Luffy leaves behind.That is not caused by his speed; that is simply STEAM from his Gear Second. It has nothing to do with the speed of sound or whatever...Also, Luffy BEAT a man MADE of LIGHTNING (Enel) by moving faster than him EVEN WITHOUT GEAR SECOND (Video 3, 2:50). Enel was unable to escape Luffy's Gomu Gomu no Rifle because it was too fast for him, despite the fact that he himself is made of lightning. Sub-conclusions: -Luffy's attacks can be faster than lightning.-Both characters can move at or above the speed of light, and so neither has the speed advantage.CONCLUSIONS:-Unless he can do a sealing technique, his Haki wouldn't be as affective as Con claims it is against the Nine Tails (who's apparently made of Haki as well).No matter what Nine Tails is made of (Logia or Haki), Luffy's powerful Haki attacks will be sufficient to knock it out.-Naruto's armor is superior because it is an imortal fragmant of a God with it's own conciousness and heals Naruto's wounds.We have already deduced that Nine Tails can be knocked out with Haki.And Naruto's Nine Tails Armor has its own disadvantages, such as lack of control.-Luffy cannot adapt underwater without any special gadgetry. Even if the setting was on a pirate ship in the middle of the ocean, he cannot adapt well if Naruto and Luffy destroy the ship in their fight, leaving Naruto standing on the surface of the ocean while Luffy drowns.As I showed, the likelihood of an underwater battle is very low, and simply the presence of water at the battlefield will pose a very minimal threat to Luffy, due to his combat experience and adaptability.I wish my opponent good luck with the final round of the debate! :Dhttp://www.youtube.com...http://www.youtube.com...http://www.youtube.com...