Quran alone : The misled Sunni/Shia (the followers of hadith for guidance)

I shall respond to my opponent's arguments as per the burden of proof.3:79Irrelevant since the prophet is not worshipped, neither did you demonstrate that Hadith is against the Quran. 75:17-19Unless you are claiming that an angel is reading the Quran for you, the verse is talking about Mohammad (PBUH) only. This supports the legitimacy of the Hadith since the prophet was given greater understanding of the Quran. 12:111As I said, the Quran gave general description for some matters, and detailed explanations for others.[We sent them] with clear proofs and written ordinances. And We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought. (Quran 16:44)http://quran.com...If you disagree, that would hypocritical as you can't even explain how to pray or the amount of the Zakat using the Quran alone.Theoretical explanations are useful, but sometime practical demonstration is required, and that is what Mohammad (PBUH) provided.Combined with the previous verse (75:19) the shows that Allah had explained the Quran to Mohammad (PBUH), and the verse showing that it is his job to explain the Quran for us (16:44). 77:50Misinterruption, making it irrelevant. The previous ayat repeats: "Woe, that day, to the deniers". The verse talks to people who disbelief in the Quran, while you try to twist the verse into sounding like a scolding to people who follow Hadith.Next, I shall rebut you rebuttal:16:43-44And my counter-question would be, "And how would you be able to gain that knowledge?". There are two methods, either through the Quran and by asking the prophet. Why are you dismissing the second method, even to gain a better understanding of the first method?And logically, if you follow the prophets who follow the commandments of Allah, you would be following the commandments of Allah.The commands of Allah includes PERSONALLY obeying the prophet. Since you admitted that he deserves to be obeyed, then that proves the legitimacy of the Hadith is it includes his commands.But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission. (Quran 4:65)http://quran.com...In this verse, Allah swears that no one will be considered a believer until they submit and follow the judgement of Mohammad (PBUH) over matters of dispute. Ergo, that judgement is not the Quran!Zikr (Dhikr):You just contradicted yourself. If the Quran is everything you need, then why do you need to ask people of the Zikr?To remind you of the verses:[43] And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know.[44] [We sent them] with clear proofs and written ordinances. And We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought.(Quran 16:43-44)http://quran.com...In the second part of the former verse, the command to ask is plural, therefore it is talking to Muslims in general.I agree with the majority of tafsirs that the Zikr is the Quran, however the clarification (Bayan) is the Hadith.Also, what do you mean that the prophet's response would be from the Zikr. Do you mean that the prophet would tell them to go see verse X from Sura X? How do you know the prophet's response?Prophets misleading:By saying that a prophet can mislead people. you are saying that Allah can indirectly mislead people since he sent that prophet whom people are supposed to obey.What is your response to the prophet not speaking of his own desires? (53:3-4) That we should follow what the prophets orders and forbids? (59:7) Of him being a good example for every good Muslims? (33:21) That obeying the prophet is obeying Allah? (4:80)[44] And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,[45] We would have seized him by the right hand;[46] Then We would have cut from him the aorta.[47] And there is no one of you who could prevent [Us] from him.(Quran 69:44-47)http://quran.com...It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allah ," but [instead, he would say], "Be pious scholars of the Lord because of what you have taught of the Scripture and because of what you have studied." (Quran 3:79)http://quran.com...The verse you provided is irrelevant since it talks about an anonymous person and not a prophet.So once again: If Mohammad (PBUH) talked about something religious, would he be right or wrong? Should we follow what he said?Samiri:Once again, I do not agree with your interruption. The footsteps in 20:96 are literal footsteps, and the messenger could be either Moses or Gabriel (Prophet of the prophets), and he added them in the formation of the golden calf.What you claim have no similarity what so ever with scholarly interruption. [2]Being rightly guided:The Quran said "Obey Allah (The reason for prophets being prophets) AND obey the messenger". These are two separate commands.Say, "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger; but if you turn away - then upon him is only that [duty] with which he has been charged, and upon you is that with which you have been charged. And if you obey him, you will be [rightly] guided. And there is not upon the Messenger except the [responsibility for] clear notification."(Quran 24:54)http://quran.com...You seem to be creating red herrings. Will you be rightly guided if you obey the prophet or not? And how do you know what the prophet commanded?Loving Allah and following the prophet:Once again, you are adding words in accordance to your own desires.Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah , then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."(Quran 3:31)http://quran.com...Where does it specifies "The revelations bestowed upon me"? This is an absolute command that generalizes everything. It say "Follow me". That is all.Prophet giving commands:So you admit that the prophet answers based on revelations. I agree. If you are accusing me of believing that the prophet is acting upon his own desires then this is a strawman. (Read 53:3-4)However, you claim that the prophet answers every question based on the QuranSahaba:Why are you calling angels teachers? Did they teach you and the Sahaba in your/their dreams?Mohammad (PBUH) is the teacher for the rest of the Muslims and human beings, while he himself was taught by Allah and angels.And once again, are the religious commands of the prophet different from the religious commands of Allah?Perfection:Because that imperfect book is the only way we can fully understand the perfect book. Otherwise, answer the questions about how to pray, perform Zakat, and perform Hajj.Demonstrating assumptions about Hadith:1- Circular logic: "recording Hadiths is from personal desires because they wanted to record it. Why did they want to record it? Because it is from their personal desires. Why is it from their personal desires? Because they wanted to record it."2- You need to prove that the Quran is the ONLY hakk. Which you didn't.3- You did not provide a satisfactory answer to falsify the Hadith. Basically your objection is based on "Your own desires" and you image you made. I don't agree with your definition of gambling.Prophet's words and contradiction with Allah:If the prophet is not in error, then that means his words are sent down.Addressing points about being tempted:My points are already below the rebuttal of Pharaoh being an Imam. I have already addressed the rest of your claims, thus there is no need to post them again.The prophet teaching people:Red Herring. You did not address my point. Verses of 75:17-19 are already explained to not support your claim at the beginning of this argument.The prophet being a role model:"Quran explained everything":Strawman. I have already stated that this duty was left to Mohammad (PBUH). Which is really the main point of my position.Your lack of answer to the questions I proposed was disappointing.Regarding the Red Herring of where the word "Jumu'ah" came from, the answer is simple: Arabs used different names for days of the week before Islam. When the Hijri calendar was created by Umar ibn Al-Khattāb, "Jumu'ah" was used for Friday in reference to the Jumu'ah prayer.Then to justify your lack of answer, you claim that these questions can be "Easily" answered. Well, then why aren't you answering them at all?My point stands that you are unable to answer these questions using the Quran alone.You made a genetic fallacy when you refused to acknowledge the hadith I provided although you previous asked for it.As for 16:89, let me explain my argument with an example:A father was traveling away from his family right, so he gave his children some instructions (Don't stay out late, help your grandmother, do well in school, etc...), and then he gave them a final command "Do what your mother tells you".If you don't follow that final command, you wouldn't be fully following the father's commands.As for your final challenge regarding Sura 96, ugh, you made a false assumption. Full suras don't get revealed together."Him" mainly refers to Abu Jahl. [3]This aya was revealed after prayer was ordered, not when Gabriel first met Mohammad.Mohammad (PBUH) was a Hanif (monotheist) before Islam. However, historically the vast majority in Mecca were Pagan, meaning that they properly whistled and clapped.[1] http://quran.com...[2] http://www.altafsir.com...[3] http://www.altafsir.com...