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If there is another civil war likely North vs South who wins? I say South.

I want someone to explain to me why they think the North would win, being from the north myself it is common knowledge that Southerners are not only more passionate and loving of America but are more religious and to be quite honest many see them as better people, they almost won the first Civil War with half of what the North had and the only reason the North won was population and manufacturing capability, so now the population is about even and the manufacturing capability leans toward the south, I don;t see anyway the North could stop a split and honestly, the South would have more American values than the North would with the way things are going.
Dota 2 is a higher quality game than League of Legends

Whelp, that's an anti-climactic ending. I'll summarize the round again just for added clarity. My main argument that effectively goes unresponded to is that there's no objective way one can say DotA 2 is superior to League of Legends simply because there's no objective metric which to weigh the two. Any kind of argument that can be made in terms of which game is better, whether it be the availability of playable champions or what they look like to how the game feels, are based entirely off of subjective preferences, not anything actually objective and/or factual. It was on my opponent to provide some sort of metric with which we could measure the two against each other, and he never did so. At that point you negate the resolution because he failed to meet his burden of proof while I'm better meeting mine because I can say either "they're equally good games" or "you can't measure the two so the resolution cannot be true" and win.But if you don't like that argument, I'm winning on literally every other argument being presented in the round. He's no doing enough work to answer back all of my responses, as well as numerous points where I'm turning his arguments against him and showing how League of Legends is superior in quality to DotA 2. You can take any one of those and negate off of that.
Dota 2 is a higher quality game than League of Legends

Defences"This is the same in Dota 2..."That's not what I meant to ask. What if, say, Player A was very specialised on a champion because he played one week of him through the random champion roll, but didn't grind enough for him? He would be beat by Player B, who is equally specialised, but has bought his favourite champion. Player A would have to wait for the champion roll or grind for the IP."If you wanna try non-conventional builds and don't want to get flamed..."That's not what I meant, either. I'm saying if you want to try out non-conventional builds you should play 'co-op vs bot' matches, just to see if they have glaring weaknesses that are easily counterable. (Easily, not the same as simply.) After that, you're actually quite welcome to do so in any other sort of matches."100% subjective" Alright, I don't have anything to say."Playing in fear..."No, it's not. Most Dota 2 players just play carefully, not in fear. In LoL, the 'no gold reduction on death' leads to carelessness, leading to deaths having less of an impact on your playing."Leading to more hypy plays..."Dota 2 gives players a chance to use skills with an even lesser time gap, by allowing players to queue skills together. If you don't buy that, then try watching 'The Play'. It's footage from a Dota 2 tournament called The International. I don't know how to link videos like you did, so just type 'The Play Dota 2' in the search box in Youtube, and watch it.Countering my opponent's point. This is very subjective. What's stopping people from saying that some points are more important or better (even though they're the same quality but different)? As you said, no such metric exists, so we can't be sure that they are the the same.
Dota 2 is a higher quality game than League of Legends

Defending 1. Dota 2 also incorporates a 'Limited Heroes' mode, which gives a pool of 20 pre-hand-picked heroes, selected for newer players, as well as a 'Training vs Bots' Mode. This allows players to practice different strategies to see if they work, without any flaming. A bunch of training minigames have also been provided recently for the newest players. It also has a 'Co-op vs Bots' mode for slightly more experienced players, whose players are generally more forgiving for players that want to try All Pick heroes. There are also recommended items for each hero, and player-made hero builds submitted through Steam Workshop. Countering 1. In LoL, however, a skilled, but specialised player might not be able to win against an equally skilled, but equally specialised player who played long enough for his favourite hero. Defending 2. As said before, 'Practice with bots' gives a free environment for different strategies, for seeing if certain builds work. I can't see how I can turn this in my favour. This point is moot, unless you can counter this defence. I've included my reason for 3 in 4. 4. Dota 2 is tailored towards less immature audiences, who give a better experience to each other. As said in my previous argument for 3, in character design, everything is practical. Nothing looks too flashy. Heroes and some items have a bio or lore. This is somewhat useful when attracting artists and writers. In LoL, however, everything is more cartoony and less immersive. 5. In Dota 2, you have to be very conscious of your playing. For example, In LoL, if you die, you don't lose money. When you defeat Baron Nashor in LoL, the entire team receives a buff. No gold loss on death allows less punishment for tower-diving (running past a tower to kill a running hero at an early stage), since the tower-diver is killed by the turret. In Dota 2, this is different. Communication is more necessary to coordinate who takes the item which grants the buff upon killing the miniboss, Roshan. Countering my opponent's point. Now, this point is quite subjective, because some can say that some points are more important than others. So, care to elaborate?
Dota 2 is a higher quality game than League of Legends

I'll respond to his points before saying my own:Point One: DotA is more balancedFirst: Available champions doesn't actually affect how a game is balanced out. Balance is determined by champion ability and statistics, not who is available for play each week. Second: Turn this argument in my favor: League is far more simplistic to newer players in terms of champion selection, allowing them to try a handful of free champions (that rotate on a weekly basis) and allows new players to branch out from there once they have a better understanding of the game and what they like playing, without actually harming the "balance" of the game. Compare this to DotA who just opens up every champion and throws new players into the deep end, which is less "beginner-friendly". Point Two: Champion FlexibilityFirst: You can do this in League too. Popular support picks, to continue along with the example, have actually been adapted to other lanes and roles if they've been found to actually be good at more than supporting, such as Lulu and Karma being adapted to a mage, Ability Power Carry role. Second: This is a point in League's favor: doing this in DotA gets you flamed and insulted. Doing this in League is fine and you won't get flamed. This mean that League has a better community than DotA, a community that is more accepting of experimenting and trying new things, and thus makes it a higher quality game. Point Three: Champion AppearancesI'm not even bothering to respond to this point because it's 100% subjective. And even if my opponent doesn't like the way champions look in League that doesn't make it a bad game. My ArgumentMy argument is simple: the resolution is asking for pro to prove that DotA 2 is a higher quality game than League. The converse of that is for me to prove that DotA 2 is not a higher quality game than League. Therefore, my argument is this: League and DotA 2 are games of equal quality and caliber. They're both highly rated and played MOBA games with different strengths and weaknesses, but both are still solid games. Moreover, it's actually nigh impossible to pick out a "better" game without diverging into subjective tastes and preferences, as you can see from my opponent's arguments. As such, DotA 2 is not a higher quality game than League, since they're both on even footing, which means the resolution is negated.
Dota 2 is a higher quality game than League of Legends

Excellent, let's begin.1. Dota 2 is a more balanced game.From what I've heard, LoL has an Influence Points system, used to buy your favourite champions for an edge without having to wait a day for the free champions to reroll. Now, I think this is a system that gives casual players a choice. Play more or wait for the roll to pick the one you want. Dota 2 doesn't do that. The main gamemode is All Pick, which lets players pick from the entire pool of heroes, providing that nobody else has picked the hero. 2. Dota 2 is more complex, but in a way that allows flexibiliy.In Dota 2, you can play a match as a supporting hero, for half the game, and then buy something INSANE, and then carry the team the rest of the way through. Likewise, you can play a carry hero and keep denying creeps (that's minions for LoL.), not letting the enemy team gaining an advantage. Sure, you'll get shouted at, but without purposely trying to give the enemies an advantage, you can't be reported.3. Dota 2 has better character design.Let's take a look at two characters, Juggernaut from Dota 2, and Master Yi from LoL. Juggernaut: Tribal mask that honours tradition.Master Yi: Some helmet thing that resembles something you'd see in Splinter Cell.Juggernaut: Practical blade, its strength comes from its wielder.Master Yi: A huge sword with rungs, which is bright green. He's just asking for his sword to be grabbed and thrown away.Juggernaut: Muscular, but not too over the top.Master Yi: Scrawny, with terrible proportions. Juggernaut: Lightweight armor, allows agility while still being protective.Master Yi: HE HAS SWORDS ON HIS BOOTS. WHAT THE HELL DOES HE USE THEM FOR?Juggernaut: "There is a fine line between bravery, and stupidity." Sticks to 'tribal samurai' theme.Master Yi: "Your skills are inferior!" Indicates lack of depth.
Dota 2 is a higher quality game than League of Legends

I would like to bring this topic to light, and nobody has voted a clear opinion yet, so I disabled voting comments so people can vote their opinion somewhat anonymously.Firstly, the rules.Please be literate. I do not want someone that goes "FK U SHUT UP LEAGUE IS BETTER". No matter how determined you are to drive somthing home, please stay on topic and any replies like this will probably be reported.If a point is countered and you are unable to defend it, it is considered moot.Round 1 is for acceptance and initial definitions. Initial arguments by Con are allowed, but not encouraged.Round 2 is for initial arguments.Round 3 is for rebuttals and other arguments. Round 4 is for rebuttals and defences.Round 5 is for defences only.If you wouldn't like me swearing, just mention it.Please number your arguments for easy rebuttals and defences.Thank you for reading the rules. I hope you have a fun debate.Moot: Unusable, discredited, false.Dota 2: A HD remake of DoTA, an MOBA, made by Valve.League of Legends (May be referred to as League or LoL.): A standalone game made by Riot Games, which is also an MOBA. MOBA: Multiplayer Online Battle Arena, a genre of game.
The "National Debt" is not a problem.

You keep saying you know how things "actually work" and after saying this, you proceed to argue from ideology and attribute things to me. You have shown you don't understand sectoral balances. You keep assuming that I believe we should sell 100 trillion in bonds. I am simply saying that, based on our potential output and the reality that we're a fiat regime, coupled with the fact that investors love bonds/the debt representing dollars in our hands.. It's not a problem, and will not be for the foreseeable future.
The "National Debt" is not a problem.

First of all, you're assuming that because I make factually correct claims about the national debt, that we should"borrow" hundreds of trillions and give everyone everything they desire. That is silliness, and it appears you aren't interested in any real debate if that's the nonsense you choose to reply with. 1.) It is technically impossible for the us government to default. We can create dollars from thin air and have been doing it for decades, we're no longer on the gold standard. 2.) Wait, "taxed to pay for the interest?" You do realize entities are seeking out bonds even in times of extremely low interest rates, you know why? Bonds are a safe place to park earned dollars, even China knows this. It's hardly a "debt." These entities will be very angry if we stop allowing them to park dollars in bonds. Foreign investors love our bonds, they know it's safe, even with very low interest rates. The value of the dollar is fine. We're nowhere near full output, full employment.. - Claiming that the private sector can't have a surplus is.. funny to say the least. Do you know anything about sectoral balances? - The private sector does not handle debt well at all, just look at what happened with the clinton surplus. (Disastrous.) Of course, you know how the private sector gets debt free dollars? Deficit spending. This isn't debatable. - The us government is not destroying "productive investment." The economy as we know it would collapse without government interference. Deficit spending directly helps the private sector and the citizens. The stimulus is an example of this, although it was far to small. - "Loss of private sector capital investment." It seems like you're running with the idea that the private sector is going to lose the ability to invest or something silly along those lines. No hypothetical's, or I'm done. Remember, entities are still parking dollars in the form of bonds even with low interest rates. - The us government doesn't create dollars? I'm sorry, but you're demonstrating that you know little about economics and the reality of the united states economy. What do you think deficit spending is? - The national debt represents a net savings of dollars. I shouldn't have to explain why this is. How do you think the dollars got there? - Yes, the private economy is indeed good at creating growth when it doesn't have to take on debt/worry about low demand. Here's the reality: The private sector needs liability free dollars, and they get them from the us govt in the form of deficit spending. When we slip into recessions, we tend to employ keynesian methods, and they work. The problem is, politicians are afraid to deficit spend to full employment/full output, due to an irrational fear of government bonds. - The national debt represents government bonds.. you know what a government bond is, right? Think about your savings point again.
The "National Debt" is not a problem.

Well, if the national debt is a good thing, let us borrow hundreds of trillions more and give everyone everything they desire. 1. It is a good investment until the government must default because the people are no longer willing to be taxed to pay for the interest (forget the principle) or until foreign investors decide to no longer fund it because it is too risky, destroying the value of the dollar, which screws the economy. 2. No, there is no such thing as a private sector surplus, for the private sector can always find things to spend its money on. The government is simply competing with other capital markets, destroying productive investment for redistribution of wealth schemes to buy votes. And let us not forget that the government can print money. 3. At least not until they have to be paid back. See number 1. And then there is the loss of private sector capital investment, which crushes an economy, preventing it from growing. 4. Nonsense, for the government does not create dollars, but consumes them. I assume here that you mean in terms of economic growth, not the printing of dollars. 5. Nonsense. The private economy is excellent at creating growth and is hinder when the government takes its money to do so. 6. Nonsense, the nation debt is not savings, but spending. Where do you get these silly notions?
The "National Debt" is not a problem.

I will be arguing that the "national "debt" is not a problem at all. In fact, it's necessary, and attempts to lower the debt or "balance the budget" are completely misguided. I will lay out my points: * A government that can print its own dollars and doesn't peg their currency cannot run out of dollars. Of course, the government can't just create 22 trillion dollars from thin air, resource constraints exist. However, we are nowhere near full output. * The "national debt" is a silly political label used to describe government bonds. They're really a "debt instrument." A leftover from the gold standard days when we had no way to raise dollars. (We weren't fiat.) Bonds now are a safe investment option for entities, and taking away this safe investment option isn't positive right now. * A government deficit goes hand in hand with a private sector surplus. What does a deficit represent? Spending more then one is taking in. How do you think the private sector has the ability to save or get dollars? * High levels of public sector debt do not hinder the economy as a whole. The Reinhart-roghoff paper is horribly flawed. * Government debt is quite literally a measure of how many dollars the government has created. * "Paying off the debt" (Exchanging bonds for dollars) would simply mean, well, you guessed it. The govt's liability doesn't change. * A national debt is necessary for the existence of dollars for the private economy to use. * The national debt represents a net saving of dollars, more bonds purchased than redeemed.
The Origin Of The Universe And Earthly Life Are Correctly Explained By The Bible

*You are Pro*I am Con*No round rules*NO ACCEPTANCE ROUNDResolutionThe origin of the universe and earthly life are correctly explained by the bible. ProHas the Burden of Proof and 4 sets of 10,000 characters to support the resolution and refute Con.ConHas only 3 sets of 10,000 characters to refute Pro and reject the resolution. *Definitions can be changed before posting your first argument, in the comments section, as long as both Pro and Con agree.Otherwise...*Definitions below are agreed on by posting your first argument.Definitions (from Google definitions)origin - the point or place where something beginsuniverse - all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmosearthly - of or relating to the earthlife - the state or quality that distinguishes living beings or organisms from dead ones and from inorganic matter, characterized chiefly by metabolism, growth, and the ability to reproduce and respond to stimuli.correctly - in a way that is true or factualexplained (changed in comments, so not a Google definition)- to tell or show the reason or cause of somethingthe bible - the Jewish/Christian scriptures, consisting of the 66 books of the Old and New Testaments.May the better argument win.
AOW, Turkey vs Israel

September 20thWithout a leader, Israel surrenders. September 25th PM greatkitteh procliams "The moon has set. Rise the Sun of turkey, Rise The fire, Rise the brave men, Rise it all; It was great. It was a solutution to all problems. No Israel, No problem, would I say, but we have No problem, The word fades, Like israel. The stars of night leave, The Moon`s are bright, And moon gives light from Sun, Sun Created. Every child can procliam, the reign of terror is over, But we have no terror. We have no Child, As the boys we spent are men or dead."
AOW, Turkey vs Israel

September 12th NATO member France and Germany cobdem The USA for working against It's own Group. September 13th Troops in Italy, Akko, Gaza strip, re-group September 14th Turkey "admits" Israel has aor Advantuge. Israel is tempted And Raids Akko by air, But the s-400s are ready. Israeli Planes are shot down, And retreat to Haifia. Casulties: Israel : 20 Drones September 15th Turkey raids ashqelon, with most Troops surrendering without A fight. Troops are Intorrogated and Few Key cyber Passwords arw aqquried. Prisoners are set free to Cuba. September 16th Turkey Buys A Coubter to Israel's US plabes: the Eurofighter Typhoons. Bombing Haifa, US planes try to fight. The s-400s Distract most of it, So Dogfights are won. Casulties; Turkey: 10 Planes, 20men Israel: 15 Planes, 5 Men September 17th Cyber defenses from china kick in, sparig a few sites . the media potarys ISRAEL as Zionist. September 19th OPERATION EUROHAM Haifa Is under Attack Simoutaniously with the West bank. Israel has restricted acesses In Palestine, So aassive army Full in Quantity Is used. Turkey bought 5 MIG-27s from serbia (Cheaper), And 2 s-400s from Russia. Turkey also Bought The North Korean Anti-tank missles (best in the world). Having restricted acess, The west Bank is Captured. Plaestinians Stay instead of Escaoing, Turkey Allows them to Have freedom as long as Turkey gets full access. Palestine agrees. Haifa is Harder. The EuroFighter Typhoons Kill many drones, but Turkey can transport less troops. Even so, The s-400s and anti-tanks Put Israel at bay. Haifa Is surrounded but the resultig battle is a tie. However, Turkey gets Tatical Win Casulties: Turkey: 50,000 men, 20 plabes ( 4 of which are Migs), 1 s-400, 2 Anti-tanks, 10 Tanks. Israel: 70,000 men, 40 Planes (7 are american), 20 Drones, 15 Tanks, 5 Armored vechicles.
AOW, Turkey vs Israel

August 1st.Turkey Continues it's expansionist policies , While Israel Starts Pulling America into conflicts and Debt.August 4thIsrael Starts abusing Turkish Minorities Turkey Then Bombs A Jewish church at Haifa.August 5thIsrael Declares war. Turkey Declares war. August 7thISIS is destroyed via Bad American Healthcare. nothing Is Changed August 8thTurkey Begins Mass Manufacturing, Calling reserves, and Cyber war.August 10thTurkey pays Egypt 30 Billion To blockade the Suez Canal, And deploy troops in Egypt. August 11thTurkey pays Syria 50 Million to deploy Troops there. Turkey Proceeds to buy Cyber defenses from china, North Korea.August 12thLebanon is Paid 5 Billion To place Troops. Using NATO membership as a leverage, Italy Allows Turkey to place troops There.August 13th10,000 Troops in Egypt Quickly March in the Gaza strip With only 4 Casualties, But makes 200 Friends. The Gaza Strip rather Side with turkey then a Abusive Israel. August 14thAn Fast Army takes Zefat. First, Turkey blockades all water sources in Israel, then proceeds To send in a Scout force of 10 Special forces, 5 snipers. When The cost is clear, Massive Artillery Fires causing a blackout, In which Special forces arrive To kill Off The Military. (With Night vision Goggles) When Israel's army arrives, a fleet Arrives from Italy, Picking off Tanks via Battleships. CasualtiesTurkey: 1 Towed artillery, 15 Special Corps, 4 Elites Israel: 10 Tanks, 400 men, A lot of electricity. The Wounded Must evacuate In a different city, hospital Generators Are down.August 15thTurkey Re-Stockpiles, Enforcing supply lines, gathering troops, Training troops.August 17th.Turkey Lessens NK sanctions, Buying 20 Missiles. The Missiles are deployed in Egypt.August 18thWith the new supplies, Turkey Invades Elat. Elat is Fired upon; Losing many Infrastructure. Minor waves of men then Attack the police. When The military arrives, Turkey Uses the air force, Bombing The city. Turkey proceeds To group the men with Large amounts of Infantry, Then Fires Missiles. Whatever remains of Israel's Deployed Runs in panic, And are easy pickings With Planes. Drones Shot down some Planes, And Turkey cannot Pursuit.Casualties Turkey: 30 Planes, 100,000 men.Israel: 20 Tanks, 20 Drones; 60,000 men.August 19thTurkey takes advantage of Russia's "Shine east" Policy. Turkey buys 3 s-400s, 1 S-300 , and 5 Su-35s, to handle Drones.