Atheism is not credible.

Hey Cornelius, good to meet you. Hope we can have a good debate on this topic. I see your definition of atheism and hope to get you to see that, atheism is not just about your ideas of gods etc. Those are the ones typical of religious gods, so you must have some sort of belief system in your mind that you follow. You can be your own personal god of course which is in essence the default position, not a good option really, or you can follow another or specific group where you get your ideas etc. So do not think that because you specifically opt out of believing in a deity, you don't follow another belief system, that is your religion of which you or somebody else is the deity. This is not to mean you aren't or can't be a good person, which I'm sure you are, or that you cannot be happy, but your life in return won't have a solid basis for absolute happiness, and you will be easily deceived. When you don't stand on something strong, you can fall down quite easily. I'm sure you've pondered on life's big questions. Who made the world? Why are we here? Who made us? Does life have a purpose? What is that purpose? etc and probably slowly just stopped thinking about it in your mind. Life goes on the same, you're content etc, you don't seem to have to worry about anything. God's not bothering me, I don't need to care, I'm having a good time etc. You're a good person you think. That's ok, but in essence for your life to have meaning you need to ponder on these questions a little more. Not everyday, just when you feel happy to do so. When you take a firm position like you have, you forget to even ask yourself. You are the only one that can answer them, yet you do not face up to them properly. Any day in your life it could be gone, it just may be too late. I certainly hope not, but it can happen. I like this argument, it helps me too get it straight in my mind: There are 3 types of position you can take Atheists - you've conceived of an entity in your mind, why else would you decide to deny it. What is it? Agnostic - you've conceived of an entity in your mind, but you're not sure whether to go one way or another, this religion that religion etc, and have taken a middle position. A lot of people there. What is it? Theist - you've conceived of it and you accept it into your life. Lots of different deities, which religion is right? What is it? So you have everybody everywhere conceiving of an entity or entities in their minds, ARE we all delusional people? So, an entity that all people can conceive of in some way, must necessarily exist. Again are we all MAD? An atheist will decide to ignore it, they don't see anything they like to choose, life's good so why should I bother with such nonsense. They walk around thinking believers are deluded, but they let on to believers, that they've already had a conception of that entity. Believers aren't deluded, atheists are deluding themselves, in essence. Hide it away quickly and forget about it. So, in my mind atheism is actually self-deluding. This is not about how moral or good people are, it's about belief in something. In your mind in effect you have taken the most philosophical questions that you could ask yourself and decided, right no more of that, let's move on. In leaving those questions unanswered, you therefore think your life has no real purpose, amusements and fun and money etc take over your life. You will not find happiness in those things. They're fun and lovely of course but you just keep on wanting more and more of the same. There possibly will come a time when you think what was that all about and the kicks you get seem harder to get. You wander from one thing to the next looking for it in material things. You possibly won't find happiness there. So it's just a stroll through this life and then you're done. Goodbye, I had a good time. But won't you be thinking, mmm I wonder if I could have a little more time and is there something else after.....if only I.....? You see there may be something else after, can't be sure, but wouldn't it be great if you chose the right way in this life to get so much more in another. I believe in God. There is only one, there can be only one essentially, but we have different religions and all those wierd ones etc You unfortunately have to make your own efforts to find Him. If you don't ask questions of yourself or ask if He will come into your life, then He won't. He doesn't want to bother you, He wants you search and find Him. He's let you know already He's there and I would say the evidence is overwhelming, but you've either walked away from Him or you've stopped searching. You say what evidence? Well the very mind He has given you, the tools that may help you search and find Him and the supreme creation that you are experiencing right now. It's real and its His. It doesn't belong to scientists, they haven't even got any idea of the pure magnificence of life and the universe what ever they may say. Don't look for physical evidence as he is an immaterial entity. When you are an athiest, you stop looking, become reliant on others to tell you what and how and you can become deceived. Your life does not have a purpose as such. It's lonely in the wilderness, and you will always have doubt about it and you cannot become a really whole person. You end up making your own rules, but they clash with others so you don't live without stress and confusion. God is the source of all order in the universe, reject Him and you will be disordered. Although you may not even realise it. Sorry not much debate style there. Main argument, though still stands, atheism leads to self-delusion, so not credible. good luck