Allies would have won WW2 without America.

"without the Americans the war would of dragged on longer and in 1945 the Nazi's had built Stealth Fighters that could go undetected by radar the Horten ho 229 but they didn't have the chance to put them into mass production if there had been more time they would of had a chance to put them into mass production" There were only 2 prototypes of the Horton Ho 229 were ever built. This was an expensive plane and it would be difficult to put into mass production at this stage in the war. Also, without modern computers to aid the pilot, it would be nearly impossible to maneuver this kind of aircraft, making its use in the war impractical. http://www.militaryfactory.com... "by 1946 the Nazi's would of had a nuclear weapon ready." Many sources suggest that the Nazis would not have developed usable nuclear weapons for a long time, they were far behind the Allies. "If you took the US, UK, or the Russians out f the scenario it may have ended in a German victory. All three were extremely important to the war effort." Although I agree that the three were extremely important, WW2 could have been won by Allies without America or without UK. If neither joined, then it would be lost. "Canada also played a major role" Definitely not. Canada helped the US along, but was not significant. "Remember Pearl Harbor? You know the Nazis were not the only enemy in that war. We played a HUGE role in the Pacific, in fact we damn near beat the Japanese alone." Yes, I remember Pearl Harbor and am fully aware that the Nazis were not alone. Although the US played a large role in the defeat of Japan, the Soviet invasion of Manchuria also played a key role in the defeat of Japan. The Soviet invasion was the event that pushed the Japanese leaders to agree to an unconditional surrender. http://www.history.com... "Don't act like we had no part. " I don't act like the US had no part but I have said, and I will say again, that the war could have been won without the US. Look at the statistics I provided in Round 2. It is evident that the Allies had every chance to defeat the the Axis without the US. "but you seem to paint a picture that you were more important than the rest of the allies." I am not more important, but the USSR was the largest contributor to the war because it took the brunt of the German attack, but that is irrelevant and is not the subject of debate. "The Russians NEEDED another front or they would have negotiated a cease fire." As mentioned, less than a third of German forces were located on the Western flank. The Germans were already occupied trying to fend off the Soviet advance. D-Day had little impact on the positioning of the main German forces. "Basically what some seem to be saying is that we didn't need to unite. We did need to, that's the reason it was called a WORLD WAR." I agree, we needed to unite because no single country would be able to stand alone, but I am arguing that the war could have been won without the US involvement. In conclusion, I believe that the Allies would have won WW2 without the US because: 1. The Allies (without the US) still would have had a heavy advantage over the Axis in terms of vehicles and weapons. (Shown in Round 2) 2. America's support with manpower was small compared to the other Allies. Thank you for the debate.