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The stories of the saints are scary

IntroductionUnfortunately, my opponent has not referenced any of his saint stories. He claims that if we want to verify them, we can do this ourselves. Unfortunately, that is not how debates work. If I claim a word to be defined as something, then it is my duty to reference that this definition is true. BoPOnce again, I would invite readers to remember that my opponent must show that all stories about saints are necessarily "scary. " I have responded to all of my opponents arguments, that whether or not one finds a story subjectively "scary" does not mean that the story is inherently scary. Now my opponent appeals to the readers emotions. Don't you find these stories scary? Therefore, they are scary! However, I have dealt with this argument in the previous round. Not all saint stories are necessarily scaryMy opponent has only provided a few, unsourced, saint stories. He argues ad nauseam that these are scary, despite my objections. But it simply does not follow from this that all saint stories are scary. Remember, my opponent must show that every single story about a saint is objectively scary. ConclusionIn conclusion, it should be quite clear that my opponent has not met his burden of proof. The burden that he must establish is that all saint stories, are objectively scary. Instead, he has only presented a very few, unsourced, stories, and has insisted that since he personally finds them scary, then they must be objectively scary. If my opponent can use his personal opinion to establish something as objectively true, I can do the same. I think my opponent's arguments are ridiculous. Therefore, they are objectively ridiculous.
The stories of the saints are scary

This is my final appeal for the vote so let me crystalize why you're a PRO VOTER. The con opens with the great immensity of the burden of proof and he doesn't believe its able to be met. HE WISHES THAT WERE THE CASE. LET'S REFRESH HIM ON THIS MATTER. SAINTS. SAINTS ARE STORIES therefore regarding "inherent" truths and what is believable or votable to anyone who would judge this debate ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS THE QUALIA (experience) of identification with the point. I can't prove what its like to ride a bicycle but I can share clips that everyone understands. THEREFORE - IF YOU ARE VOTING ON THIS ITS ALL ABOUT WHETHER YOU IDENTIFY WITH THE FRIGHTENING NATURE OF THE STORIES OF THE SAINTS. NOW the con states that I have not provided sources for the stories of the saints. I gave names. You can go read these stories yourself if you need them to be verified. BUT - THE CON'S ONLY AFFIRMATIVE ARGUMENT WAS FROM THE SAME BASIC SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN HE USED "St. Nicholas" Surely my opponent isn't expecting his only example to outshine my several examples provided. IT IS TRUE that it is my opinion that these stories including the con's of St. Nick ARE SCARY - THAT ARGUMENT DOESN'T make a man screaming at a wafer in a gold box any more comforting to you as a judge. It doesn't make the scary John Vianney any more comforting with rotten potato breath. AS A VOTER YOU CAN STILL VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE AND ADMIT THESE ARE ALL SCARY STORIES INCLUDING (and for my next point) ST NICK I don't straw man him. .. he created that problem himself. We don't need to think about modern santa claus. .. BUT AS A VOTER ARE YOU MORE OR LESS FRIGHTENED BY A MAN BREAKING INTO YOUR HOUSE TO PUT ORANGES OR COINS IN YOUR SOCKS? ABSOLUTELY NOT! THATS THE STORY OF ST NICK. ITS FREAKING SCARY! IF YOU AGREE - VOTE PRO. To conclude: ALL THAT MATTERS IS IF YOU ARE FRIGHTENED BY THE STORIES YOU HAVE SEEN HERE.
The stories of the saints are scary

My opponent has agreed with my definitions, and his BoP. Once again, this means that he must demonstrate that all Stories of the saints are inherently scary. Unfortunately, this is an immense burden, and he does not even come close to meeting it.Unsourced storiesPro complains that I have not responded to his stories. This is indeed false, for I surely have. However, he has not provided us with one sourced story. For example, I could make up a story about a saint, and just claim to be true. Unless I provide some sort of reference we have no reason to believe that the story really happened. My opponent must provide sources for his stories. Otherwise, we cannot be certain of whether or not they actually happened.Personal opinionMy opponent also argues that, since he finds each one of these stories scary, then they are inherently scary. However, this is absurd! It simply does not follow that just because I personally find something scary, then in its very nature, it is scary. This is what my opponent must demonstrate, and as of yet, he has not.If my opponent can argue that since he finds something scary, then it is, then I can do the same. I do not find any of these stories scary. Thus, they are not scary. My opponent has ignored this point, and unless he counters it, all of his unsourced stories and arguments remain disproven.St. NickMy opponent straw-mans me. The story of St. Nicholas I provided made no reference to Santa Claus whatsoever. This is simply a Red-Herring. ConclusionIn conclusion, my opponent has yet to provide one validly referenced story of a Saint. Furthermore, his arguments are all based upon personal opinion of something. Personal opinion can also be used to demonstrate that since I do not think something is scary, then it is not scary. Since my opponent has not even come close to demonstrating that all stories about saints are scary to everyone, the resolution has not been affirmed.
The stories of the saints are scary

Thank you. With regards to the cons "clarifications" I would like to say that I submit to these burdens. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? It means I have to convince judges that there is an objectively scary "causing fright" dynamic to the stories of the saints. Stories of Saints are by no means scientific or on par with any objective standard used by any institution outside of the confines of the very particular council headed by the prefect for the causes of the saints and the pope. That being said if more people believe these stories I have shared are or would be a cause of fright - YOU WOULD BE RIGHT TO VOTE PRO. THAT BEING EXPRESSED The con has no reason why the stories I gave are either not true or not scary. IN FACT THE CON DOESN"T ADDRESS THEM AT ALL. I think most people would share with me a reaction of fright if, for example again, "a child appears to her in the night and leads [you] to the chapel where after a short wait the virgin mother of god steps onto an altar out of nowhere..." I'M SORRY - I'D PROBABLY THROW UP OUT OF FRIGHT! NEVERTHELESS My friend has proposed a saint story of his own. St. Nicholas... Santa Claus.... WHO IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE SCARIEST SAINTS OF ALL! Some man breaks into your house - puts oranges or coins or whatever in a stocking and slips out ...and not just your house NO ONE'S HOUSE WAS SAFE FROM INTRUSION OF ST. NICHOLAS. In modern times we still associate this saint with somehow getting down chimneys and FLYING AROUDN THE WORLD ON REINDEER WTF?! EVEN STILL- plenty of children around the world wake up on christmas and wonder if they were naughty enough that year to get coal instead of glorious gifts. MY FRIENDS - the con has provided the best reason for the affirmation. THE STORIES OF THE SAINTS ARE INCREDIBLY AND DISTURBINGLY FRIGHTENING WHEN TAKEN FOR THE LORE THAT THEY ARE. Thank you. Good times.
The stories of the saints are scary

I accept. Since my opponent has not provided definitions, and details, I shall describe how this debate shall proceed.ClarificationsPro has the BoP to show that "The stories of the saints are scary" is true. This means that any story about a saint, in itself, is objectively scary.Scary: "causing fright" (1)Deconstructing Pro's argumentsPro gives different examples of "scary" stories of the saints. However, these stories are unreferenced, and thus we do not know whether or not to accept them as true. Until he does so, we should not accept them as fact.Furthermore, "scary" is subjective. What one person finds scary, another may not find scary. My opponent must show that all stories of the saints are always scary to everyone, due to the very nature of the stories.Unfortunately, this is just not the case. I, for one, do not find these stories scary at all. The resolution is not "I find some saint stories scary." Rather, the resolution is "The stories of the saints are scary." My opponent has not justified this position in any way.A not-so scary saint storyIf you still aren't convinced, here is a not-so scary saint story about St. Nicholas."Hearing of the girls' plight, Nicholas decided to help them, but being too modest to help the family in public (or to save them the humiliation of accepting charity), he went to the house under the cover of night and threw three purses (one for each daughter) filled with gold coins through the window opening into the house." (2)ConslusionPro has undertaken an immense load. It is as if I were to argue "E.T. is a scary movie." While there may be certain parts of "E.T" which I may find scary, what is "scary" depends upon the viewer or reader. Pro has not met his BoP, and the resolution has been negated. "The stories of the saints are scary" has not been established as true.Sources:(1) http://www.merriam-webster.com...;(2) Bennett, William J. (2009). The True Saint Nicholas: Why He Matters to Christmas. Howard Books. pp. 14–17
The stories of the saints are scary

The stories of the saints are so scary. It will be the job of the negation to prove that the stories of the saints are more inspiring or whatever overall rather than being scary. St. Thomas Aquinas - caught alone - screaming in a golden box known as a tabernacle to communion wafers saying "GIVE ME THE ANSWER" St. John Vianney - ate rotten potato's everyday except on feast days when he would eat a regular potato. iimagine how scary he looked. St. Margaret - nun who lives in convent says a child appears to her in the night and leads her to the chapel where after a short wait the virgin mother of god steps onto an altar out of nowhere... St. Padre Pio - walking around with holes in his hands and showing up at like 2 places at once. ... church women harming eachother just to get into his masses... St. Paul - kills a bunch of christians then shows up at a christian's house after claiming to have been blinded by jesus- shows up at the council meetings of the apostles and informs them that whether they like it or not - he's an apostle. CAN I GET AN "AMEN" ... ANYONE!?
Videos for People is the best Youtube channel

After reviewing some of his videos I've come to a conclusion. Videos for People definitely not entertaining and there's no "genius" to it. He's a guy that makes random troll videos that no one enjoys watching, which would explain why he has only 3 subscribers. " I have already stated that he is unpopular, that is not what we are debating here. We are debating how good he is" hmm, no. We're here to debate whether or not, 'Videos for People' is the best YouTube channel. Atleast that's what you put as the debate title 'Videos for People is the best YouTube channel' "List a better channel than his. I don't think you'll be able to." erm, every other channel that has more than 3 subscribers??? You are too much of a big fan (or the guy who owns the channel is trying to advertise). I'm sorry but this guy [for now] is absolute trash.
Videos for People is the best Youtube channel

Did you actually look at any of his stuff? Did you see the political messages behind it? Did you see the intellectual genius? I doubt you did. you probably just went there and then went away. Vfp is not bad because he has less than three subscribers. The number of subscribers is only a measure of popularity, not of quality. I have already stated that he is unpopular, that is not what we are debating here. We are debating how good he is. He is only underrated because almost nobody pays any attention to him. Doesn't his videos have a form of creativity? I ask you, doesn't it have more creativity than a video game let's play? That type of thing is mindless. Vfp's videos are really very humorous. Sometimes they have small little subliminal messages and codes. I've solved five of his codes. it's a fun little activity he provides. I can't think of any better channel than his. I am a devout fan. he is a satirist, and a genius, and he deserves far more recognition than he gets now. List a better channel than his. I don't think you'll be able to. it's discreet, it's hilarious, it combines black comedy with regular comedy. it has recurring characters. His channel will, one day, be regarded as a major achievement of the human race, a shining beacon for all to obey. You can't go any better. tell me some better ones. there aren't any better ones, but try anyway.
Videos for People is the best Youtube channel

He's obviously not the best YouTuber if he has a mere 3 subscribers. I came up with three things while reading this 1). You're weird 2). No like you're actually really weird 3). Like you're actually incredibly weird and I wouldn't want to hang around you because of this He cannot be the best YouTuber because he has less than 10 subscribers. The reason why no one subscribes to him is because they find his content not interesting or worth their time. DARE-FOUR HEST NUT GRAT UTOOBER. I ABLE TO DEBRUNK HE ARGUEMAN -- VOUTE CONE
Videos for People is the best Youtube channel

Videos for people is a highly underrated YouTube channel. It only has 3 subscribers and some of his videos only have one view. And yet, he keeps making the videos, even though nobody watches them. He is incredibly perseverant. the channel is so underrated that, oftentimes, when you search for one of his videos, nothing will come up. I know about this channel. It's little MS paint drawings put together in a slideshow fashion. There are stick figures and stuff, and they do little comedic sketches. It's like a cartoon without any movement or dialogue. The mystery surrounding this guy is bizarre. Nobody knows who he is, he's not on Facebook or anything. It could be some kind of ARG, but I don't think so. It seems like he just makes a bunch of funny cartoons. He is the best YouTube channel ever. better than Smosh or any other YouTube channel. Anybody who wants to debate this with me can go and look at his videos and tell me why he is not the best ever.
Mixed gendered schools

Choosing to say the word gender instead of sex opens up the door to "liberal cuckolds" as the alt righties call the anti-god Satan worshippers who pray on children who are confused, and brainwash them with Satanic symbolism that we see in pop culture right now. We all should segregate schools based on race, religion, sex and whether or not they have same sex "parents" to save our children from the anti-Christ and to raise the best generation possible. The sons of the Lord must rise up to stop the rapists in schools that rape our pretty girls. We need to segregate schools to save the children, mostly girls. Most guys can't help themselves when they see a girl with big breasts and buttocks, they need to claim what is theirs! We must stop this because they all need to save themselves to marriage, and if there are all guys in a school no sex will happen, and most importantly no rape! God bless, -Ivan
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The worst thing you can do for those you love is the things they could and should do themselves.

a lot of people work hard and never make it or after they do some where. rich people come in buy there company up cut it in to pieces fire everyone. and sell it all off. as for people doing some sort of free service sure let those people who don't have time go out and spend time away from their kids to pick up a park. sure lets force them to do that but while they are the government can hand out another check to pay the sitter to watch those kids. i will never support making the poor do more while the rich do nothing but create more poor. rather than pay more in taxes or find ways to contribute to the country. the rich spend millions each year on lobbyist to ensure any new law or guide lines that might hurt there pocket book doesn't get past.i have never actually thought you wanted to take away welfare completely but any new restriction placed on it will do nothing but disrupt the service and harm the people in need. if you going take away from already imperfect system making it more imperfect it's the same as dismantling it. it's a limited service as it stands it only covers food. a product that is on the constant raise in cost. plus you have yet to list any form or your new regulations thats what government officials do right be for the ram it in deep on the American consumer.the government needs to leave welfare alone and improve other programs and laws to ensure people receive the assistance they need
The worst thing you can do for those you love is the things they could and should do themselves.

of course I have never met him but we can see what he did through out his presidency and a type of man he rough out history. Also you keep on thinking that I'm saying we need to get rid of food stamps I'M NOT I'm just saying we need more restrictions and I think your talking about Mitt Romney not Mitt rouney and I'm not a Romney fan but he is right when he made this statement is it his fault he is wealthy of course not he made investments and and took risk and came out to be a successful man. And you also think I'm bashing the 99% let me tell you I'm not I'm not wealthy what so ever but I have a job I'm making 7.50 an hour and doing what ever I can to pay for college and one day when I will be successful am I going to say hey I should feel guilty that I'm successful not I will say I worked my butt of for my education, my food, and gas money. I worked cleaning toilets cleaning parking lots doing all that stuff and I should feel guilty heck no I should feel proud that I started at the bottom and worked my way up. The point is that I work hard If I'm successful then I did it myself by working nothing was given to me and when stuff is given to you you tend like it so much that you stay where your at in life cause its just good enough your not working you getting stuff for free you do not want to do better. When you do horrible jobs like me cleaning toilets mopping floors cleaning parking lots It makes you say I do not want to be like this for the rest of my life I want to be successful own business so I can Create jobs for other Americans and let me ask you this what is wrong with people that do not have a job getting food stamps and other government programs what is wrong with them doing community service to help their community look better tell me what's wrong with that
The worst thing you can do for those you love is the things they could and should do themselves.

Lincoln you say? greatest presidents you say? that opinion nothing more imposible to argue for or against as neither of us was alive during his reign as leader or meet the man personally? i personally think the goverment should give more not welfare money but more. it should stop wasting time with anything other than improving the life of people around america. like handing out jobs, housing, forcing people with too much to give back. how can we expect the lower class to do more when the rich and greedy keep taking away. you want community service i like that idea ut lets make the people with millions of dollars do it not the peope trying to figure out how to keep the lights on. get some of those rich suit wearing fat cats that can spend 10,000 on a bottle of scotch. so they can enjoy drinks while looking out from there 2 million dollar highriase while a guy 3 blocks away sleeps on a park bench. your argument is if you give they wont learn how make it with out you. i don't believe it. consider the fact that most those people who need asistance got that way from bad policies created by rich politiancians in order to asist there already rich friends to stay rich. take mitt rouney he makes 57,000 a day from interst on his investment. what did he in vest in? failing companies that him and his friends bought fired the work force then divided up and sold off. but did you see that number 57,000 aday that more than 2/5 of american families make in a year and he makes it in a day. ever consider that the reason the goverment hands out so much is from the guilt they feel from all they have done in the past to the lower class.
The worst thing you can do for those you love is the things they could and should do themselves.

Ok my opening argument completely went over your head. I said that their should be more RESTRICTIONS on food stamps not take the food stamps away completely. I agree with you on he mother I think the people that need food stamps the most our single mothers with children and there no good boyfriend-daddy left them they are the ones that need help a lot. But they have to be working or at last trying to find a job you can not just give them something if their not willing to work for it that is what Abraham Lincoln is saying do not just give people anything because that spoils them and everyone look a our country now everyone expects everything to be given to them and that's not true you need hard work, confidence, and determination to succeeded in life. I know what your saying well what if they can not get hired even if they are looking for a job. Well they should at least be doing community service making a town look better doing something to earn what their getting community service would help so much. Abraham Lincoln was one of Americas greatest presidents, and if he saw our country today and saw how a lot of Americans expect everything to be given to them he would be so disappointed and say you see what will happen if you just give people everything without them working for it they will become lazy and spoiled. And also your conduct is really immature calling me ruthless and selfish and Implying things like how I do not care and also worry about myself. I do care I care about this nation ad want to get America working for things again and not expect it to be given to them.