Abortion is a reproductive right

Of course my case comes down to my own personal values which include human life having fundamental value. That is my personal opinion, however I think it is an opinion that people really ought to share. Humans share rights that other animals do not including the right to life which is not the case with others in the animal kingdom I think due to this fundamental value. Now I think that if we are to bring subjective morality into the debate, the pro choice advocate could argue that the lives of conscious humans or humans that can survive out of the womb don't have value either and so those humans under the parent's responsibility that cause a nuisance or are particularly inconvenient like the disabled can be discarded as well. I think a slippery slope could easily develop if we are to say human life has value only in specific situations. I'm not sure if I quite understand your argument about 'Even if we could prove definitively that, at conception, the life is human, we still must admit that it is our values and values alone, that dictate how that life should proceed. This debate extends far beyond the womb. How children should be nurtured, e.g., their diet, education, future etc, varies from country to country, culture to culture, family to family, and person to person. People who are pro-choice simply reject what they feel is an over-extension of those values into the life of the individual.' so please correct me if I misunderstand. I think there is however a big distinction between how one raises a child and whether the child should be raised. However I am still a little confused so if you could try to explain it a little further I'd appreciate it. 'If she sees no value in the life, or is unable to nurture it, it is lost.' I very much disagree with this. Just because the mother does not see value in a life, that does not mean it doesn't have value. If a murderer didn't value his victims, we would still stop him, as the lives are valuable regardless of whether he thinks so or not. The fact that a woman can get pregnant is an unfortunate biology fact, however I don't think that the ability to survive outside the womb or not is the deciding factor when it comes to 'is this human life worth saving?'. Just because it is dependent, that doesn't mean it doesn't mean the value of human life is diminished. It means it the child is more of an inconvenience, but when did convenience justify murder? If a mother did not want a child and so mistreated it, the mother would be charged with child abuse or neglect. I don't think that the best way of stopping women from abusing their children is to kill their children. Two wrongs don't make a right. If human life does have value, I think it is important to investigate if people are ending lives. I don't think that looking into the reasons miscarriages occurred is so bad that we should end the lives instead. Again this is simply a convenience thing. Would you not go to extreme lengths to see the cause of death of a child outside the womb? Just because it is inconvenient to investigate foetus deaths and foetus abuse, that does not mean we should allow parents to kill the foetus. It is only usurping control of her biology if the foetus was part of her body, like a kidney or a limb, but it is not. Also women do not have to get pregnant. The only argument you could make with saying women didn't choose to be able to bear children is to argue rape victims should be allowed abortions, which does not make it a reproductive right. I think it is very dangerous to claim human life doesn't have value in certain situations, especially when disability is the justification. I also think that if one is to believe human life has value (which anyone who disagrees with murder apparently believes), it is wrong to have abortion be a thing of convenience and a 'right' that women can exercise at will. With abortion legal in the UK, 37% on abortions are done with people who have already had one or more (1). This shows that people are more than happy to end life when it suits them, which is not something I think society should be encouraging. (1) https://www.gov.uk...