The existance of the holy trinity is probroly the truth.

This round we will examine each other cases.My opponents pointsThe Nature of godThis whole section is describing creation and some type of cube god. Im sorry but my opponents example, I just don't understand it whatsoever because its not logical atleast in my opinion. Also describing creation doesnt prove why the holy trinity is the truth. Describing god, as a cube seems to confuse more than it convinces."Rich Deem brings up the hypothetical example of a Cube shaped God who created a 2 dimensional universe[2]:"by judgement of this first point it seems the trinity is based off of a hypothetical theory. As I've stated in my case the words trinity don't even appear in the bible. God wants us to know and understand his nature right? If this was true then he would have bluntly told us that he exists in these three forms. Also if we look at the speech of the bible it uses words that are used for distinction from one being. Example: colossians 1:3 " We thank god the father of our lord Jesus Christ always when we pray for you." Obviously the lord and father re indicated as different people. Hence the different names. If god, the holy ghost, and Jesus were one god, then why would they even need different names? "Prima facie, the idea of any being being 3 beings seems to be absurd! But this is the perception we get from our limited human perspective, which is highly flawed anyway. For one, it's entirely logical that the true nature of God is beyond human comprehension."So your saying that we should believe a ideal that doesnt make sense because we have a limited perspective on things and thus should not look for the logic in reasoning to judge if something is probroly right? It seems that's what my opponent is arguing. Im sorry but this point makes no sense. It is our human perspective that tells us that the sun is out. Since we have a limited perspective should we then think inversely of all things and say that since my perspective is limited then I should ignore the signs that the sun is out being the bright rays and my forced scwinting because of it? Absolutely not. It is our human perspective that tells us no to touch that hot stove. We ought to use the information we get to make conclusions o the probability of things. It is human perspective that decides whether a religion is made up or not. Should we ignore these clear signs for the sake of inverse thinking. No, Thus we need to use our human perspective to make logical conclusions of things rather than ignoring reason as it seems my opinion is promoting.Also we can comprehend the true nature of god. Why? Because he tells us about his nature. Psalms 90:2...bottom portion......"even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are god."......In this scripture he tells us that time isnt a restriction to his life, and that he will be god forever. So it is illogical to believe that gods nature is completely beyond human comprehension. Lastly on this point why would I and humans alike believe in a god that we cant understand?"Thus, while 3 different beings see Cube God, they all see him as a separate entity because his true nature is contradictory to the only worldview they are able to obtain. Thus, given that God has a nature incomprehensible to human beings, it only makes sense that the way God reveals himself are hard for Humans to understand."Even if this suggestion was true that we cannot perceive gods true nature and we perceive him differently than what he is, Where's the scriptural backing of This. There is none. Even if this was true god would still not call himself father,son, and holy ghost and even adding distinction to each, and praying to himself(Jesus prayed to god, if we accept trinity teachings than god was just praying to himself. Where's the logic in that?) For what reason would he do that? Knowing that we have a limited perception of things, being that god is all knowing, he would know that we would not understand this. The problem is though that god doesnt say anything about this. so why would this asertation be true?Scriptural basis for the trinity.Im not going to post every single scripture here of my opponents because most contradict his points so there's really no need to post all of these scriptures when there contradictory.(1) The Father is called GodJohn 6:27---- "Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."If anything this proves the separation of the two.John 20:17----"Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”He just said my father, father and son cannot logically be one. He also said to my god and your god. my opponent said that all these entities are equal in power and are all equally one god? If so the possession of the word my contradict his own statement. By saying my god this signifies that one god may be higher than another witch contradicts my opponents case.(2) Jesus Christ, the Son is declared to be God.Colossians 1:17----He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. This is a prime example of a scripture being misapplied because someone didnt read the whole paragraph instead of looking at one sentence.......look at colossians 1:15-16.....15 "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him."remember that scripture I posted earlier stating that god is time indefinite? God wasn't created. Hes always been here. so yes Jesus was the first born of all creation. He helped god create all other existence. So Jesus and God are not the same person.John 17:5----"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."This does not prove the existence of the trinity. It only proves that Jesus and god existed before the earth was made.John 20:28----Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”Yes at times jesuses followers would call him god at times, but Jesus would always correct them.....lets look at the rest of the paragraph.......John 20:31...."But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." So obviously Jesus never claimed to be god. 3) The Holy Spirit is recognized as God. By comparing Peter’s comments in Acts 5:3 and 4, we see that in lying to the Holy Spirit (vs. 3), Ananias was lying to God (vs. 4)We all know that the holy spirit is something that god gives. So it could be said lying to the holy spirit would be lying to god. The holy spirit and god are still separate things. Its kind of like how the spirit and the body are different. This is logical but adding in Jesus contradicts all positions from this stance. Jesus is not part of god.Im almost out of characters. Lets remember my pointsHow the bible defines each aspect contradicts The trinity doctrine. , Trinitarianism is a paradox to scriptures. Sourceshttp://www.biblegateway.com...http://trinityfalse.bravehost.com......Thanks to my opponent for the great debate.