Shari'a Law

Thank you. 1. Rebuttals 1.1 Libertarianism If you read what I wrote, you would clearly see that I never stated that there's no government in a libertarian society. I said that there's no government to guide people. Moreover, as can be seen, I also placed a distinction between libertarianism/freedom and my argument about e.g. racism was a response to the theory of a person being the best to know what leads him to happiness. I responded by saying that if that were the case, then a racist is doing a good thing (by that logic) by being hateful. Therefore, saying that individual happiness is achieved with one's own guidance is a very weak point. 1.2 Free speech I've defended my statement on the forums. I never said that it's part of Shari'a Law. The fact that a person was "bullied to death" and I called for death penalty for the well-mature teenagers in this particular case doesn't mean that I think it should be part of Shari'a Law. Perhaps it shouldn't. This divine law welcomes scientific research, and denying it is forbidden. If we can clearly prove the mental maturity of a person and know that he wanted to kill through bullying, then what's wrong with capital punishment? If we can't have a good case against him, then by all means we should help him. As for free speech in general under Shari'a Law, it is allowed to speak truthfully. However, any form of slander in the open where there is very strong evidence for a person spreading it, then there is a form of punishment that a judge can appoint. 1.3 Guidance/oppression Some people hate going through education, but it's still better for them. Is it oppression? For them, yes it is. For others, it is guidance. My opponent apparently does not think that guidance is different to oppression, but that is an error on his part. Enforcing guidance is important for a modern society. We are no longer cavemen. We are communicating at a global level and we are very dependent on each other. One person making a mistake can lead to severe consequences for others. That is why we also need more control over people. We need control which can help them with actually having control over their own lives. Let us look at what happens in the West due to lack of control: Abortion (which is unfortunately used as prevention): http://www.abortiontv.com... Sexually Transmitted Diseases: http://www.avert.org... and http://www.cbc.ca... Female teenage suicide rates: http://www.suicide.org... Unwanted teenage pregnancy: http://www.familyfirstaid.org... I can go on for long. Looking at this, how monstrous and egregious is it that there are millions of abortion cases annually? How about STD's? Is this what we get from "the individual's choice is his ultimate source of happiness?" Is this what a society needs? Female suicide rates, do you know what causes them? Do you know why we have depressed teenagers? Because the Western world lacks family oriented life. It allows teenagers to fornicate, sleep with tons of other boy/girls, then enter jealousy-dramas, and so on. What does it lead to? Depression, hate, sadness, etc. Is this good? Not only that but unplanned teenage pregnancy is also a horrible thing. It is due to fornication. Is fornication what a society needs? Can someone explain to me - once and for all - what good comes from fornication? Moreover, is this a good example of a free society? Is this what a "free" society offers? Does this lead to happiness? [Qur'an 2:185] "Allah wants ease for, you not hardship" 1.4 Children in Shari'a Law Quick response to "housewife": A woman is allowed to work in an Islamic nation. In fact, many jobs ask for women employees, such as medical. The important thing is that the man and the wife arrange it all properly, so that there are no holes in the family system/life, and arguments over roles. The man, however, must not stay home and not work. His duty is to provide his wife and offspring with wealth, even if his wife is wealthier than him. Moreover, I agree, children should not be mistreated. Shari'a Law calls for good treatment of children. As for the community they might want to leave if they don't like it, it depends on the situation. As I said, people can dislike something that is good for them. [Qur'an 2:216] "... and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you know not." 1.5 Statistics and intoxicants Once more, my opponent ignored my point regarding statistics. The government of Saudi Arabia does provide statistics. This refuted his point in round one. Regarding intoxicants, the ban is clearly effective. I already said that there is no promise of fully cleansing a society of it, but to an extent, and that surely works. We hardly see comparable problems between Saudi Arabia and USA when it comes to intoxicants. Moreover, the reduction of HIV rates is an absurd point to make. Why are there even vast amounts of STD's? Due to fornication, adultery, prostitution, etc. Those are strictly forbidden under Shari'a governing, dear readers. Opening a free way for intoxicants can only increase STD rates in Islamic nations. 1.6 Prosperity If you read what I wrote, you will not find a single word indicating that Islamic nations are the most prosperous. I didn't say that they are. What I said is that throughout centuries, they have managed to prosper economically, not by being the wealthiest in the world, but by being able to have decent economies, and all that without interest. Whoever says that interest is needed in economy is speaking with void words. I provided a link to which there was no counter-link from Con. Malaysia is a good example of Islamic banking, and clearly it has a strong economy and it gets better. I refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org... 1.7 Punishment I stand by my claim that my opponent bases his argument on emotions. What's wrong with corporal punishment? Moreover, why exactly don't we simply jail certain people? This is why: http://www.bbc.co.uk... http://www.independent.ie... "46% of rapists who were released from prison were re-arrested within 3 years of their release for another crime." - http://www.independent.ie... As for this, other statistics show much higher percentages of rapists committing the crime of rape after being released from jail. That is exactly why deterring the crime is better than to let it happen. Executing e.g. 100 rapists annually is better than to let them rape 1,000 innocent women. Moreover, it isn't true that capital punishment is better than corporal punishment in some cases. Some people prefer death over a body without limbs. 1.8 God Why do I even have to prove that Shari'a is from God? It is simple: God commands only what is good, therefore something is good because God commands it. Also, would it be fair if I asked an objectivity to prove that Ayn Rand is a genius in order for Objectivism to be valid? No. 1.9 Pork / food I see no valid rebuttal to my argument against pork. I stated that the blood cannot flow out when slaying the pork, and the uric acid "remains" in the body. It "flows out" in e.g. chickens. This is perfectly valid. Furthermore, food like hamburgers etc., it is true that we cannot ban it, but adding evil upon evil is never better than clearing it one by one. Just because people can find alternatives to destruction doesn't mean that we shouldn't make it harder for them to do so (e.g. by banning pork). And pork can gives over 50 types of diseases. I thank my opponent and I hope that the readers have enjoyed reading this. I hope that you will vote fairly.