Gun Control Is Bad (BROAD)

Gangs and criminals still get guns, however it is more difficult for them to get guns" Yes but they will still get guns even in a 100% ban on guns existed, and an unarmed population is easy pickings for criminals. Do you want to commit violent crimes knowing nearly everyone is armed and concealed carrying? No, that's why criminals tend to avoid committing crimes in states that are the least armed. Of course violent crimes still exists in these areas, a large percentage of those crimes would have not happened or been at a lesser extent of the victim has been armed. > "Mexico's problems are mainly due to corrupt government officials and not their strict gun control. " It doesn't change anything, guns are illegal there and only the criminals have them. The people are unarmed and can't fight against the corrupt government or the drug lords. Why do you think the United States made the second amendment? For if similar corruption happened we would be able to fight it out in a revolution. (one which actually happened). Do you think of the Mexican population was as heavily armed as the Americans this huge corruption would of still existed? Well it's really up for debate but I know they wouldn't be walking on the people so hard. > "31.2 firearms are are owned per 100 people" That seems about true, but most of the guns are with huge collectors that have huge stockpiles. The gun industry there isn't very big with most of the firearms in Europe (Except for the Czech Republic) being manufactured before the 1990s..Not to mention the majority if the firearms are in residential areas. Whereas in some states almost every single person has a firearm and most firearms being under 5 and 10 years old. > " that's about 1/3 of France's population." And yet in a huge city like Paris there wasn't a gun in site to stop these terrorists. Not to mention no concealed carry laws. If 1/3 of the people in or around the shooting area had concealed carry pistols MUCH less people would of died. This is undisputed. >"even then a firefight in amongst the crowd of thousands would leave more injured than dead. " The Islamic terrorists were already opening fire on everyone, nothing more would change except for the victims returning fire. The only way "it would leave more injured" as if people started blindly shooting, and that doesn't really make sense. It wasn't pitch black and the terrorists saw enough to easily pinpoint people, the victims would easily be able to do the same. Trying to dispute this is nonsense. > "Most civilians are NOT TRAINED AGAINST PROFESSIONAL TERRORIST ATTACKS." Describe what "trained" means. Most civilians in France aren't trained? Or do you mean the entire world? Well if you are talking about France the gun culture there is nearly non-existent, of course people wouldn't be well trained.. If a system existed like America people would be "trained" enough. You have to get back to me on this one. "Guns and drugs are completely different, it is a lot easier to sneak drugs than guns." It's actually easier, guns can be broken down into tiny pieces and sent individually. You can also machine extra parts with only a few cheap metalworking tools. This isn't a source link but I am showing it to better explain my argument. http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com... Not to mention it usually only takes one or two small parts to turn a semi-automatic into an automatic firearm. Dogs can smell drugs and drugs are hard to hide. It's VERY hard to find metal bits and it's very easy to hide. "2. Better gun control will mean less accidental deaths by guns." Accidental deaths by firearms isn't an issue. Of course firearms should have an age limit (perhaps 18) and part of being an adult is being safe and responsible. This was the motto of American freedom, there are more dangers in the world but you are a free man. The nanny-state isn't going to look after you. So if someone is stupid enough to accidentally harm themselves with a firearm that's their problem, and it's not justification to have gun control. "More guns means more deaths, no matter how you look at the data doesn't lie" Yeah but you also need to realize that if someone was dumb enough to accidentally shoot themselves with a firearm they were probably going to die another way. So maybe 1000 more people die from firearm accidents, well 900 less people die from car accidents or drug overdoses. "America has 88.8 guns per 100 people and has the highest death rates by guns 16 times more than Germany. " Well American and European gun violence used to be nearly the same up until the 60's, but America started massively importing poor third world people.. Naturally gun violence is going to go up. Plus look at the most gun violent places in America.. Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore. All places with large densities of non-whites. Look at the places with the lowest gun crimes.. North Dakota,Wyoming, Maine,Montana.. They are all the whitest states in America with nearly exactly the same gun laws as every other state give or take. The same thing applies to Canada. >"yea I definitely would not give that guy a gun?" Some people are different, but we can't judge people based on looks alone. I do believe in restricting severe mental health people to firearms but that doesn't really count as "gun control" per-say. It would only limit a very small portion of the system. I rather not waste time arguing on this issue. >"The 70's were a different time and gun violence started to rise in the 60's and 70's. Gun violence as a whole started going up in the 70's and 80's.. Though it did spike in the 60's in some areas. >"The type of guns available were different as well as the amount of guns out there." Uhh no, you could buy fully automatic Ak47s in 1949.. You could also get machine guns with several hundreds round of ammunition and even miniguns in the early 1950's.. So yeah. > " takes precision, time, and patience, sometimes a cooperating helper. " A 15 year old with basic metalwork skills can make a majority of these parts. Heck most gun magazines have one pin between the magazine that can easily be sawed off to increase the magazine size. Another link (not source) to demonstrate. http://farm8.static.flickr.com... See the pin in the middle? Cut that off and now your weapon can hold more ammunition. This is one of the most popular firearms in Canada. See the irony with these gun control laws? > "Which means people that want to modify their guns to use for illegal reasons will have a tougher time doing so. Sure the Internet can teach you but Do it yourselves(DIYs) aren't always perfect or practical." A person with the determination to sacrifice his life to commit mass murder or similar terrorists crime will easily accomplish it. A gang will easily have a similar time. ----- > "Why wouldn't you want stricter background checks? " Because background checks only work on people with mental health issues.. Everyone else can easily bypass the system. Gangs get all the guns they want by having a "freshie" (A guy without a record) to purchase all the firearms and launder them. So it doesn't really stop anyone. It only impedes normal people who don't want to wait weeks to get their guns. "You should be mentally competent(cleared by a doctor) and trained about properly using a gun if you want to own one " Unless your IQ is 70 and you are really that stupid you aren't going to tell a doctor you have a mental health problem if it means never getting a firearm.. All it does is make people scared to admit their illness and they won't get treatment, and usually ends up too late if they do something stupid. Vision tests are already done every few years when you renew your driving tests. At this point it would get very tedious.. You are also giving me the idea that you think everyone is stupid and can't look after themselves. Word limit