I actually met god in a dark back corner of a busy street with the smelly stench of the city

Doesn"t it truly SUCK rotten Easter eggs that debate. Org only limits 10, 000 characters per round? We"re both wrong at times. That"s what makes us human - and better than god. God intends harm in which the bible clearly shows. We don"t. Now as far as me I love The Atheist Experience. But I just cannot get into Dawkins. Yeah I agree, I do NOT like listening or watching him. I don"t like his voice. I only use 5 of his quotes. Mmmm. Steer clear of Biblehub. Its really not very good. Instead go to Biblegateway. Its a lot easier to follow and understand - well for me at least. It has a lot of language translations etc. That"s a major reason why this god character would ---never--- use text as a form of communication" he MUST know of the translation variations that exist throughout his bible that would take place beforehand and would not use it. Yah see, Since the Trinity was NOT part of the OT or the NT then it cannot be taken seriously. Now think about these" "If god is all knowing and he knows the future of all events and he wrote a book that can only be interpreted as if it endorses slavery and if its heinous violence against your children against your neighbors" how could a god be that omnipotent and devise a book where we can"t distinguish between the law of Israel and god"s law? I mean their interwoven where we have metaphor and fact and nobody can distinguish the two. We don"t know what we"re supposed to take figuratively. We don"t know what we"re supposed to take literally. Was it actually a tree? I mean come on. How can anyone distinguish this. I mean come on. It doesn"t make any sense. It doesn"t matter how its translated. It doesn"t matter what version. If it was written by an omnipotent being there would be ONE VERSION. And there would be only ONE WAY to interpret it because it would be written well. " Aron Ra Actually it wouldn"t be written at all. What"s wrong with your god comin" down and talking to people? "Hey you know some of that stuff that"s in the book? I"m here to correct it. " Matt Dillahunty "We have to rely on copies of copies of anonymous authors with no originals and the textural testimony to a miracle for example, There"s no amount of reports, Anecdotal reports that is sufficient to justify in believing that actually happened as reported. And anything that would qualify as a god would clearly understand this and if it wanted to clearly convey this to people in a way that is believable would not be relying on ---TEXT--- to do so. And this to me is the nail in the coffin for christianity. The god that christians believe in is amazingly ---STUPID---! If it actually wants to achieve its goal by spreading its word to humanity by relying on text, By relying on languages that die off, By relying on anecdotal testimony, That"s not a pathway to truth. And anything that would qualify for a god would know this. Which shows either god does not exist or doesn"t care enough about the people to understand the nature of evidence to actually present it. Now which of those two possibilities is accurate? " Matt Dillahunty "If jesus and Muhammad and abraham and moses had never been born, Which in any case I tend to dabble, If all their stories were untrue were suddenly found and everyone had to admit it some people I know would show panic. Now what would we do? We"d have no morals suddenly. What could be more nonsensical than that? As the matter of fact the position that we occupy would---be---precisely---the---same as it is now if none of these texts had ever been written, As if none of these lacerations had ever been made. We would still have to reason together about how how to treat one another, About how to build a just city, And about how to have irony and a sense of humor. " Christopher Hitchens Yeah admittedly a lot of my insults are fun to think of. I record most of them and the I look back at them and say "I wrote that? I"m insane. " But one thing I truly hate are those that are pure psychopaths. There are many of them. And then I use my insults seriously. But wow some of those psychopaths I simply ignore except to report them. And some of them should simply be arrested and reported to the police such as TRUMPMAGADONALD. This guy, Wow. All he craves is attention. Especially from teens who go into his debates, Leave their remarks. But they don"t get that it is they that are the losers because he"s already won. Now what do I gain out of these debates? WAKE UP! Religion, Namely god, Who is truly hateful and despicable and that"s according to the bible in which no god of the bible would ever use text as a form of communication, Is all about hate and is nothing more than a superior ego god complex as the bible spews out. I believe in care. Kindness, Love, Peace, Harmony and religion and god are the furthest things from it. There can be no worldwide peace with religion in it. Well if you want to get into the "books of moses" if you really think about it, They are frauds. After all, How can they be written by moses if he died before their completion? Now Deuteronomy is clearly the worst, Yes. And if you really want to get down to it, The entire NT is far far far worse than the OT. After all you have hell, Crucifictions and la da daaiing as suffering and horrific pain is somehow a truly demented and diseased "good" thing. There"s the end of the world etc etc etc. Yes there are arguments, Of course, Over and over and over again. So naturally I have composed arguments for them. In other words, Many times I do know what someone is going to say before they say it. It isn"t hard. And yes people get a rise out of what I say because what I say is already pre programmed. Yeah I hate typing up the same ole thing time and time and time and time and time and time and time and let"s say time again. Not only that but I have really bad hands and I exist in constant pain. Its easily the most pain that I have ever felt. And I most certainly do know what pain is. Yes I do like to get rises out of those who do not know what they are talking about and yet they pretend they do especially from something in which they clearly know nothing about. I also like to get a rise out of those that are psychopaths. For those that are true psychopaths such as TRUMPMAGADONALD, The absolute best thing to do is to steer clear of him and report him at all instances. But you know what I really like the absolute best? That"s to debate with someone that is intelligent, Educated with a little bit of zing and sarcasm. Well you know I really don"t like the same ole boring *yawn* where everything is as straight as an arrow debates. I did know some Hebrew when I was growing up. My parents forced my brother and I to Sunday school. We were brought up as jews. However my mother was raised as a christian. But married my dad and converted to being a jew. Of course we both know that that was 100% wrong according to judaism. And guess what? Even though now, All of my family are full blown atheists! Sadly I do not communicate with any of my family and haven"t for a good 22 years. You wouldn"t either if they did what they did to me. It doesn"t matter what the "Hebrew" translation of dominion, Or creeping thing" is considering that there are so many other glaring errors to sink the bible into absolute groaning worthlessness. However, All you need to do is google any torah verses that are translated into English and I can guarantee you that they will come up the same. Here"s some other glaring errors" * In the Bishop"s bible, The one before the KJV, The word "Tyrant" was used I don"t know how many times and then in the KJV that was replaced by "King". WHAT? Tyrant and KIng are two different and totally apples and oranges with each having totally different meanings. * In Isaiah 45:7 KJV "I form the light, And create darkness: I make peace, And create evil: I the Lord do all these things. " In the NIV version its "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, The Lord, Do all these things. " The words "evil" and "disaster" are completely 2 different things and words and have 0% of anything to do with each other and completely change the meaning. Either the KJV or the NIV version is a clear misprint. * Judges 1:19 "And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, Because they had chariots of iron. " (tee hee THAT'S REALLY way beyond silly. So this is how I will defeat/ set up a defense against your god is if I have iron chariots. And all the nuclear bombs on earth and all the supernovas and all gamma ray bursts IN THE UNIVERSE EVER will not be a defense and not be able to defeat god, But alas, According to the schizophrenic of unsound mind in whoever wrote the damn thing bible *take a breath please* iron chariots will. Dominance. See the bible isn"t clear. Or is it? That dominate means man has dominance over everything which is a bold faced lie. Even so, Man at that time did not have dominance over grizzly bears, Polar bears, - the fishes of the sea - great white sharks? Nope. Sharks are fish. Yes man has been wiping out everything he sees and touches. At least he tries to. But fails miserably when it comes to insects (things that creepeth so the bible lies), Bacteria and microbes as examples. "But I still am stuck on the idea that the written word is the best form of communication. " To unstuck you, That"s not it. Sure man can communicate using text. But to god? Not ever. Especially when this character of a supreme ego god complex in which the bible is entirely about and the bible is filled with mistakes in which this god if reasonably intelligent would have long foreseen before these mistakes were to have happened - to spread his ego, Through text, Really? No. Not if this god character is a god especially when this god can simply talk to us. That"s evidence. Text is not evidence. Think about it! I'm out of space.