god is completely bankrupt and immoral and does not know what love, peace, harmony is

It should make you sick. Christianity, its so-called god in which nobody can even prove exists is a sick little brainchild of many authors and who knows what they were thinking at the time they decided to pen the bible. After all no god of reasonable intelligence would ---ever--- use text as a form of communication, the worst form of communication possible. No sorry there"s no counterarguments to the verses listed because the verses should never exist in the first place. If god was kind, caring, loving, peaceful, believed in harmony THEN WHY DIDN"T HE KEEP IT? Nah this sick little diseased god believes in hate, and has freely admitted to having evil, anger, wrath, vengeance, rage, fury, jealousy of all things. Jealousy? Jealousy is nothing but anger as disguised fear. Even better, well worse actually Exodus 34:14 "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:" Sure why not compare god to Hitler, after all god created Hitler and if god is god in any way shape or form he must have known what Hitler would be doing before he would be doing it. Also you do fully understand that Hitler was indeed a devout christian. I mean you do get that - right? But the worst of the worst is not Hitler by a long shot,, but Hong Xiuquan who knew himself to be the younger brother of christ. You should check him out and the Taiping Rebellion for a real kick. You should also look into all serial killers, torturers, sodomizers, rapists, pedophiles etc etc etc that god knowingly creates per year - especially when daddy takes his shotgun and blows his family away or when daddy decides to rape his little 4 year old girl so that he a$$ turns into her vagina. And people think there"s a god? Yeah if he exists, a god of true hate and pure evil and nothing but. So you think ANY of that is "moral" Are you sane or insane? Oh and btw, I don"t give a crap about winning. Its not about winning. Its about what is right and what is wrong. What is just and what is unjust. "God did not write the Bible, interpreters of God did." Nice guess. You don"t know that. And who is it to "interpret" god? Especially to change what he has to say over the generations to keep up with the times? Yep that"s another reason why YOUR god would ---never--- use text as a source of communication. Those who are scribes are---to---change what god has said? Are they for real? And what if they get it wrong? So then the next hand-me-down gets it wrong, but even worse this time. *Counter to Lev 20:13 - Mark 12:30-31 "Love thy neighbor as thy love themselves" This is saying that you should love everybody who walks this earth, even if they do not believe in Christianity." Nope god issues a death warrant for those who are gay. god"s word cannot be changed because it is perfect and no one can change it. *Proverbs 30:5 , *Isaiah 40:8, *2 Timothy 3:16, *Psalm 19:7 *Counter to Lev 24:16 - James 5:15 "The one who sins shall be forgiven" This is saying God will forgive the people who have sinned." Blaspheme, well who knows what kind of sin? Sin is hypocritical and contradictory in your bible. Thus sin does not exist. Does every man sin? Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8) Matt Dillahunty "What is sin and why should I care about it? (That"s a very good question. I don"t give a damn about sin. And that"s because I am not stupid enough nor ignorant enough to believe in a selfish self centered god so I have to look over my should every second of every day and worry about something that is completely meaningless such as sin) I understand why I should live an ethical life and treating people in certain ways, we have secular foundations for moral systems. But sin from the christian perspective is a crime against god or god"s nature itself - right? If god makes the rules and you violate it, that"s a sin. Well what if god makes a rule that you should kill your child, does that make it good? Caller " Yeah that"s where I do things that are not aligned in what the bible says." Matt "Yeah. But are they good things? Do you have good reasons to have that the things you are doing are not immoral? Like do you have an example? Like don"t confess to a crime or anything. For example the bible is opposed to homosexuality. Do you think there"s something immoral about those who are homosexuals?" Caller "Uh there"s none that I can think of." Matt "Yeah me neither. And so if the bible"s opposed to it add the bible is the word of god, and the Koran is opposed to it as well and the Koran is supposed to be the word of god as well, and there are two holy books and let them argue over who god is and what god thinks and until they can come up with a sound secular justification for homosexualiy being immoral then I don"t need to pay their views any money because its just an opinion at that point." *Counter to 2 Chr 15: 12-13, Dt 13: 9-10 and 17: 2-5 - Isaiah 49:25 "I will contend with those who contend with you, and your children I will save." This is used as an analogy to Moses' people' slave owners. God is saying he will make them believe." god cannot force anyone to believe in him. That"s one power he does not have. Why do you think billions have not and do not (thankfully) believe in him today? Now those verses were referring to bowing down to other gods and leading his chosen people astray ih which required the death penalty. So really that verse of Isaiah doesn"t apply. *Counter to Ex 21, Lev 25:39, Lev 25:42, Lev 25:44-46, Dt 15: 12-15, Dt 23:14-16, Mt 18:25 - John 8:32 "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Of course you are going to lose it!!!! They have nothing to do with each other. The verses I first mentioned are about slavery. And you probably don"t know this but NOWHERE in your bible, and especially not by your god or jesus is it ever condoned. *Counter to Ex 20: 3-5, Ex 34:14, Dt 4: 23-24, Dt 32: 16-17, Dt 5:9, Dt 6:15, Jh 24:19, Ps 79:5, Ps 78:58, 2 Cor 1:2 - For the next ones, I'm going to argue it without verse. This one is pretty simple. He is not being jealous, but he is telling the people that worshiping idols can be dangerous and will lead you to the Devil. Whoopsie! EX 34:14 "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:" Ab-so-lu-te-ly 100% god is a jealous god in which no supreme deity would ---ever--- be. *"Counter to Ex 31:14, Nu 15: 32-36 - Yes, because the sabbath is considered holy and if you disrespect it it will be punished. In the Bible, breaking the sabbath is equivalent to burning the American flag or shouting Nazi propaganda." No its worse in the bible. It requires your death. *"Counter to Lev 20:10 - Adultery is evil, like I said before, it is equivalent to burning the American flag or shouting Nazi propaganda." No adultery isn"t evil. Raping a 6 year old girl is evil. But nah. Not according to the bible. *Counter to 2 Sam 12:11-14 (this is a quote from evilbible.com "This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!" There"s no defense for rape. Come on. YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS!!!! And no forgiveness should be allowed, not ever. Ex 32:14 is NOT an excuse considering the fact that this god is supposed to know EVERYTHING and be a "god" and thus be "perfect". And since this is so, then he wouldn't need to "repent" for one goddamned thing. And I see no mentioning in your reasoning of the rape victims. Where are they? What happens to them? *Counter to Lm 4: 9-11, Mt 10:37, Mt 2:16, Jg 21:10, 2 Sam 12:11-14, Dt 2:34, etc. In the case if many of them, including 2 Sam 12, God is punishing the sinners by taking away his son. TERRIBLE REASONING. I get it, since you are a child" So by your reasoning if your father did something wrong, then you should be punished for it. That"s totally absurd and ridiculous. But that"s the thinking of your god. *Counter to Lm 2: 20-22, Jm 11: 22-23, Lv 26:29, 2 Ks 28-29, Lm 4: 9-11 - This is getting old. Same response as my previous counter." You are in any way, shape or form defending cannibalism? You lost every single so-called argument except for one that ehhhhhh is iffy at best. "Also, why are you tearing down something you don't even believe in?" WHAT? With all the violence and hate that you"ve seen in YOUR bible that is spreads. Damn right. And then again nobody can prove that this god even exists. It is the mere belief in this god that creates pain, suffering especially among children, and gives extreme false hope to the gullible. One thing, in the next RD, if you wish to continue, please state which line you got it from like "rape" or "god hates women". I mean I don"t memorize all of my debates and it is hard for me to backtrack and see what you picked. Regardless, I do appreciate your efforts and that you tried. Its a breath of fresh air, unlike most who flatly invent excuses which never works for me. So thanx!