ninjas are superior to spartans

Thank you for your response opponent. To start, I'd like to point out that the main function of Spartans and ninjas is not to engage in violent conflicts; the Spartans engage in violence by fighting, but ninjas assassinate; the MAIN FUNCTION of both warriors, however, is to kill, and I'm comparing them both on a unbiased judging system, whereas by opponent insists on giving the Spartan the advantage and fight a ninja head on, which ninjas do not do. The other fact is that you cannot prove that a Spartan is going to win because the Spartans never fought ninjas or even knew of their existence, and the example I used in round four on how statistics itself cannot determine the outcome of a battle with the American revolution. my opponent tried to turn my example of debaters against me by saying that debater debate to see who is superior; let me clarify what I'm saying: lets say that the ninja is the LD debater, and the Spartan is a policy debater; you cannot prove that a policy debater is superior by having the LD debater debate policy with the policy debater. But you can see who is better by looking at their total number of wins. So my opponents value of superiority by winning in a fight cannot be looked to because it's biased and favor the Spartans. My opponent misunderstood my attack on his first contention. The point I was making was not ‘Spartans' armor weigh them down'; but that ninjas' armor serves their purpose just as well as a Spartan's armor will, so that's a invalid contention because it only states that Spartan have armors that serves their purpose and did not mention anything about how ninjas' armors serve their purpose of assassination. My opponent accused the ninjas of only having stealth, but this is not true. The ninjas' trainings are just as tough as any Spartan training, and ninjas have knowledge of more weapons than the Spartans. My opponent stated that: if only a Spartan has a advantage and ninjas don't, then it makes Spartans superior; this is a flawed argument due to the fact that ninjas have many advantages that Spartans do not have i.e. killing people without casualty on their side, knowing how to use many weapons, knowledge of various herbs that can cure if a ninja was injured and there was no doctor around, and can kill anytime they are hired or feel like it. The advantage of armor my opponent mentioned is NOT restricted only to Spartans, as ninjas can pick up some tough steel armor anytime they wanted and the Spartan's advantage would be null and void. So the ninjas advantages far outweighs the Spartans, and according to my opponent, if a side have more advantage or advantages only they can have, then the ninjas would obviously win at that comparison. My opponent accused me of not acknowledging the fact that he is setting up a clear framework. This is not true; I'm not agreeing to his framework because it is biased toward the Spartans. If my opponent looked to my comparison method, he will see that it is fair and not biased to anyone, and here I may mention that it is my opponent who ignored the fair method of comparison and thus having some confusion, not me. My opponent also misunderstood my example of the American Revolution. I'm using the Revolution, as an example of how you CANNOT assume a side will win simply based on statistics, not the fact that the British or Americans did not use stealth. My opponent tried to assume that a Spartan will win based on statistics that are in Spartan's favor; well, you can't assume a battle will be won by either side without any proof, and Spartans will never fight a ninja as they were on opposite sides of the world and are now both extinct as historical warriors. My opponent tries to bring down my first contention by attacking one point of how ninjas can't heal themselves during battle. I have proven that a ninja's knowledge of herbs is not for healing themselves during battles, but healing themselves after the battle is over when a doctor is not on hand or after their assignment is killed. Spartans can only tie bandages to wounds and hope not to get infected. The main point of my contention is that ninjas have a better training than Spartans; and since my opponent did not attack this point, he is agreeing with my first contention. My opponent said at the end of his rebuttal that I have not offered an alternative solution to judge the two warriors so we must use his biased judging method. But I have offered a completely unbiased and fair judgment method: comparing their effectiveness in killing. In which I offered many concrete fact on why ninjas are superior to Spartans in killing (please look to our second round to see the facts). Since my opponent did not disagree to this judging method, and did not offer any valid facts of why a Spartan is superior in killing, he is agreeing that a ninja is superior. Furthermore, my opponent did not state any more attacks on my case during his 4th round, or rebutted the majority of my attacks on his case, he is agreeing with all my attacks on his case. My case still stands, as my opponent did not offer any valid attacks on my case that I did not prove to be ineffective. To end: ------------------------ ------------------ My case still stands whereas my opponent's I've proven to be invalid My opponent only attacked a small portion of my case. I've attacked all of my opponent's case and proved it to be invalid. I have successfully rebutted all my opponent's attacks. My opponent dropped several of my arguments. My opponent's point that a Spartan will win a fight with ninjas is based only on assumption. I've proven that a ninja is more effective in killing whereas my opponent did not offer any facts on that at all. ------------------------------------------ -------- ------------ -------- In short, my opponent's case fell apart when he refused to use an unbiased way of judging, and I have upheld all my arguments and my case. So I urge the judges to please vote for the side with better facts and arguments, a side that has valid value and criterion, and upheld their case. And I urge the judges to please vote for pro. Thank you jonothanster, for having this debate with me, and it was a pleasure debating with you. Merry Christmas! Also, thank you, audience and judges, for judging this debate. I hope that you've enjoyed it. Good luck to my opponent on posting the final round!