Joseph Stalin

Now onto my final argument. .. 1. STALIN VS HITLER . I Your argument here is very weak, Hitler killed on the grounds of genocide. Hitler caused WW2 and formed the Axis Powers, he promised great power for Germany and brought Europe to ruin. Yet Stalin and the Red Army took over Eastern Europe and liberated millions upon millions of people. How was that bad? I think doing all that counted for 300 wrongs. . II Hitler equally destroyed private life with the Gestapo and SS. He used them both to hunt down Jews and other minority's, and forcing children to join the Hitler Youth. He also fired endless amounts of teachers, lawyers, etc. etc. Giving those jobs to inferior minds who shared his political and racial views. He promoted Nazi Eugenics and disposed of other education. He rewrote the curriculum and gave mediocre education. I wouldn't call that good when Stalin at least allowed decent education for the children of scientist, doctor,teachers, etc. etc. . III Hitler did in fact attempt a bloody coup, the Beer Hall Putsch. He was just inferior at military planning, leading to a failure and a long decade of attempting to take power. Stalin and Lenin took over with support of the masses and it was relatively bloodless with only a few thousand deaths. Which might add 80-90% of those caused by the current provisional government. Now the very bloody civil war after was due to USA,France,Germany,UK,Japan, and other countries which pressured the Bolshevik party and supplied hundreds of white warlords and helped provide armies an naval support to attempt to beat the Bolsheviks. Who they could not defeat because the masses agreed with the Bolsheviks. INDUSTRIALIZATION AND MEDICINE . I Tsarist Russia was full of decay and corruption and had slavery and commonly massacred the population. So yes I think Stalin forced economic plans were neccsary yes I admit they were very cruel but to advance a country almost 150 years ahead in only 20 years you need harsh economic plans. once the Soviet Union began to recover from WW2 and his plans in the early 50's life was good and Stalin had made a good place to live. Yes it unfortunately required 10s of millions of life's between economic plans and ww2. . II Yes under Stalin medicine did advance, old diseases disappeared. I think that is all I have to say there. . III Stalin had harsh job policies because Russia was preparing to take on the superpower Nazi Germany. So yes harsh industrialization tactics were neccssarcy. I would think living under Stalin during his economic plans was much better than being constantly massacred by the Nazi's and having the Slavic Population annihilated and the surviving million or so enslaved. FAMINES AND MURDERS . I The Holodmor is impossible to prove either way, yes Stalin contributed to the famines but much of it was due to the temporary fall of the economy. Due to Reorganization for the better good. . II If you notice the majority of Gulags are in European Russia, the very populated area. Only a few are in Asian Russia, European Russia was filled with "camps" which are prisons. Proving my point about gulag prisoners being convicts. A convict is someone who has done something wrong, yes the NKVD went to far extremes but Stalin still couldn't have managed the problems. 3RD WORLD COUNTRY . I Freedom of speech is a new concept in the spectrum of history, the majority of the world has not had freedom of speech for very long. There were little protests since people were relatively satisfied with his rule, people complain now since the west has introduced lots of individual concepts over the greater good. But that is for a different debate, that is all that needs to be said on that subject. . II Reaching Space and creating Nuclear energies is beneficial for the population so yes I deem that first world country quality's. I think your argument here is null and void. KEY POINTS AND FINAL ARGUMENTS . I Stalin provided more hospitals and care. That's bad? . II Stalin's policies and some smart military descions stopped the Nazi's and saved Europe. Again I don't think that is bad but very good in fact. CONCLUSION Stalin saved Russia and Eastern Europe during the Great Patriotic War and vastly improved Russia life, though it did take a toll on human life. I think your facts are gross over estimates as well, I must admit you did make some excellent points but I think I easily refuted them. Therefore I think my facts and common sense have proved Stalin did many good things. I urge a vote for PRO, please read the facts before you decide your beliefs are correct. I have done extensive research on Stalin and spent a few hours writing this argument. This ends my argument and I await my opponents response and I would like to thank him for good sportsmanship and excellent arguments I have had an excellent debate. Again I urge a vote for PRO since my argument has proved multiple times its superior reasoning and has refuted endless claims. SOURCES . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://www.historydoctor.net... . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://www.dac.neu.edu... . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://www.ushmm.org... . http://www.marxists.org... . http://www.northstarcompass.org... . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://en.wikipedia.org...