Mormons

Sick of Joseph = Book of Mormon... How exactly? Where are you getting this conclusion from?The other "sheep" referenced could refer to anything you want it to mean because its vague. I can say those sheep are space aliens but that doesn't make it true.Negations N1) We cannot become like God. No one is like God. There is one mediator between GOD and MEN, we need a mediator because equality with God is something that can never be grasped.N2) God has no body of flesh and bone. He has never manifest himself in the physical realm in the form of a man save through Jesus Christ. God the Father has no Earthly body and there is no evidence suggesting so. N3) I believe in the Holy Ghost.N4) At the time of Creation Jesus was the Word of God and thus came straight from God's mouth to create and was not a seperate being. Three in one yet the one is still just a single God. N5) The law says thou shalt not MURDER not KILL. There is a distinct line between innocent killing and cold blooded murder. The original Hebrew portrays the word murder not kill. Also, what does multiplying have to do with original sin? The forbidden fruit didn't cause sexual reproduction. Animals, who are said to be largely without sin, multiply all the time. This is something that doesn't connect.N6) Jesus was the last "prophet". After his mission and his message there was no need for prophets because he is now the sole mediator between God and men. Prophets after Jesus are obsolete.N7) Yet how could we have existed before creation? Man was created during creation at the very beginning. How could we have existed when it says there was nothing in pre-existence save for the spirit of God and the deep and still waters of the void. We did not pre-exist because that contradicts the Creation story. Man was FIRST CREATED on the Sixth Day of Creation. Not before.N8) This comes from the Book of Mormon which is the source in which we are debating. You cannot quote the disputed work and expect me to take it at full credibility. It says nothing of this in the Bible and therefore holds no weight. N9) At the death of Jesus he is found next to two criminals. One of the criminals says that Jesus is a blessed man who doesn't deserve to die and asks to be remembered by Christ in death and Christ says "surely today you will be with me in paradise", this man was not baptised while hanging on the cross on the verge of death. If you believe in Christ and call him Lord you will be saved. It says that multiple mutliple times in the gospel while the stuff about baptism is implied or shown; this is said directly. N10) This is taken out of context. "When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else.38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor." The verses in question are merely used as an example of how similar things can differ and in no way pertain to heaven or the afterlife. This is an interpretation taken out of context. N11) See N5, repeated...N12) There is nothing in there about plural marriage. Again this is a misinterpretation of scripture. That verse says nothing about polygamy. He never told David to practice plural marriage, that is ludicrous. Jesus says if you MUST have a wife to have ONE and it is actually better to have NONE and give your whole self to the Lord. I don't count Smith to a prophet or messanger of God so that doesn't pertain to me. He had nothing but his own word to go on and interpretations of old text.N13) Eden is in Iraq. That is the original location of the garden and says nothing about America or the people there. Nothing at all. Again, vague interpretations and shadey wording to convey a point that isn't there.Jesus Christ was the last prophet. After him there is no need for messangers from God because the last message was delivered. Repent, love and believe and you'll be saved. That was the last message from God. The prophets were obsolete because God now communicates through the Church and through Christ. However, other scriptures say Bethlehem yet I can see how this could be seen as a mere misinterpretation or miscommunication of "at" vs. "in" Jerusalem.