Border fence

"He alone states that (I don't see much of a need to care about this) so therefore if my opp. can not even believe in his contention then who is to say that he believes in his negative case."I am a hunter so I care if it affects my game, as hunters wish to preserve animals so they can keep hunting. I knew it was bad but when it hurt beas and deer I began to care. So yes I care now. "It is simple you can't put a price on security and from that you cannot put a price on life."A border fence isn't your life. And that's a bad example as life is far more important then security. Yes I can price security, bordr fence=30 billion dollars on top of our 15 trillion dollar debt. And another security measure, a lock on the door costs 20$, 2 ofthem = $40 etc. Life is not priced, security is. "Ok know to my opp's final contention which is that it hurts people. I won't include his 5C because apparently 'might make the Mexican mad' is a USELESS contention."Actually the mexican mad one is very important because foreign affairs is important, especially when they border you. Also it could hurt our goverment to goverment alliance. So it is very important. "No it won't, again the illegal people hurt themselves by getting into that predicament. "Sure they do but falling of a 15 foot fence with a 2 year old kid s not gonna help lol. "The last time I remembered the stoning of rocks kills people therefore the agents did act in self defense. "Yes it is but their tained not to kill. And there was some doubt to the stoning case as the FBI is lookig into it. So the FBI don't think the border patrol case is good. So it may or may not be self-defense. conclusion to the rebuttals:my opponent thinks foreign affairs and innefficiency are false. And that cost doesn't matter. But he has no proof to show the border fence actually keeps people out, and the enviroment is uneffected. So my case is stronger and ha smore facs, his are all assumptions. And he also said he is to lazy to look it up. Also I am just gonna talk about my quote. It makes sense because that means that fences can be taken down but the people on the fence that fall, their mistake will always be there. So depending on the interpretation it makes sense. Ineffective (this is a rebbutal for him as his whole case is dumb if it doesn't work)In the show penn and teller Bulls*!t they disprove the border fence. It took only 3:30 to cross is. (3 min 30 sec). They got imagrants hired them to build a fence similar to the ones othe border then told the immagrants to climb over it. The econd test was go through it, and the last was go under it. Heres a website with the whole show: http://www.unitedliberty.org...Yeah so how is a fence gonna keep illegals out, provide security, and keep illegal drugs out if they can get through it in no time flat. Just sayin'.C1: hurs the enviroment. proved.C2: CostprovedC3: innefectivego to link above, proved. Also look arizona has a lot of border fence yet they have a immagation problem. This also proves its innefectiveness.C4: hurts peopleproved, sure they ht themselves anyway but falling off a 15 foot fence with a bby in your hand is not going to help. C5: might make the mexicans madI need to prove this a little more. It might strain relations between Mexico and the United States. And I will prove this with logic:the president of mexico already has shown this (pretty solid proof) and also look a fences like this: berlin wall started as just barbe wire, moved to this, then a prison camp wall. Mexico would not like to see this, therefore it may make them mad.I have proven my case with little rebutall from my opponent. VOTE CON!Here's where the map is from: http://americanpatrol.com...