Conspiracy I: The Philadelphia Experiments

We'll start with the easy stuff first... >> "Cameron existed. This is his picture: http://www.bielek.com...; I can go to Google and get a dozen pictures for Duncan Cameron. I can easily take a picture of someone else and label it Duncan Cameron. A quote from the site you didn't examine in the last round: "Since Bielek faked the evidence for the existence of Ed Cameron and subsequently there is also no evidence of a Duncan Cameron who lived during the same time period, then it can be safely said that the legend of the Cameron Brothers, Ed and Duncan is a fabrication..." Here is a page showing in great detail that neither Ed nor Duncan Cameron are in any way associated with the Philadelphia Experiments or Bielek: http://www.bielek-debunked.com... >> "You are providing nothing but theories and assumptions based on various coincidences." This statement, regarding the facts concerning the timelines of Bielek's statements, completely ignores the actual evidence itself, calling well-established facts coincidences. For example, Bielek states that he worked with Tesla, when in fact, Tesla was an extraordinarily weak old man, barely able to leave his house. But I suppose that was coincidence too. >> "Who better to verify this than the man who actually witnessed himself being aboard the ship. If Swerdlow said he was on board, he was on board." Yes, self-corroboration is the ultimate standard for proof. Hello? The fact of the matter is that neither Swerdlow nor his alias were on board the Eldridge. Please do some research and actually read the links. >> "Again, this only points to a cover up, especially considering the lack of exposure this project has received." The Philadelphia Experiments never received any attention because the title didn't exist until 1988... 45 years after the alleged events actually took place... when Bielek made up his story about suppressed memories. >> "Although the evidence now suggests that the Eldridge was not the ship, we are told that the experiment itself apparently did occur...This magnetic field was the product of several tons of specialized electronic equipment that had been installed within it." Could this be (GASP) the degaussing equipment installed on the Engstrom that I've been mentioning for three rounds now? The statement by Wilcock explains absolutely nothing concerning the following because it admits that the Eldridge wasn't even involved: 1) The logs from the Eldridge during this time period are available on microfilm NRS-1978-26 and do not confirm the above story [1]. 2) The ship was not in Philadelphia at the alleged time of the incident [1]. 3) The ship never made port in Philadelphia in 1943 [1]. 4) Lieutenant Junior Grade William S. Dodge, master of the Andrew Furuseth denies he or his crew saw anything unusual in Norfolk [1]. 5) The Eldridge and the Furuseth were never in Norfolk at the same time [1]. 6) "Bill Van Allen, 84, who was executive officer and then captain of the Eldridge in 1943 and 1944, said he never saw any sign of experiments aboard the ship" [2]. >> "Also, these people obviously didn't gain much attention, let alone mainstream media attention, otherwise people would know who they are." False: "According to his own records, Bielek has been on over 50 radio talk shows and a featured speaker at over 40 conferences." (http://www.bielek-debunked.com...) >> "Another premise my opponent put forth was that the Philadelphia Experiment contradicts known science, yet, the videos I provided demonstrate otherwise." Your first video is about microwaves, not visible light. They do mention visible light, but it is clear that nobody has bent visible light. And the technology to bend microwaves wasn't available in 1943... The second video mentions teleporting photons and atoms... not destroyers. And not in 1943. And time travel? According to your third video, it requires traveling around the universe, which must be rotating. Somehow I don't think they were doing that too often in 1943. >> "I could flip the statement and say that the captains claim contradicts the testimony of Allende." The statement of the captains of the ship is corroborated by their crews, etc... which were questioned individually. Allende's letters were sent with strange wordings and references, including the (unverified) claim that Allende, whose real name is Carl Allen, was individually tutored by Albert Einstein himself. >> "Einstein and Tesla were behind this; there obviously was some scientific basis." Appeal to authority fallacy. And also... do a Google search. You find anything in any scientific journal or source that backs up this claim? >> "it renders plausible the conclusion that sufficient motivation exists to actually conduct a "Philadelphia Experiment" to examine radar stealth on ships with electric drives." The Navy DID conduct such experiments. And in the 1940's. It's called degaussing (http://en.wikipedia.org...). *********************************************************** Readers, my opponent has not presented any sort of evidence that Al Bielek or Carl Allen is a valid source. He has also provided no counter-evidence to the fact that Bielek has lied about almost every aspect of his stories regarding the Philadelphia Experiments. NEGATED.