Original sin

I am honoured to be debating with my friend, KeytarHero. He seems to be a good debater and am excited to learn from him. I don't know exactly where to start, so I hope this argument will be good.Contention 1: Death existed before the fall.I contend that original sin is contradictory because death existed before the fall. Let's take a look at a few passages. Adam and Eve were not expelled from the garden because they have sinned. They were removed from the garden because of the Tree of Life. 22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed thecherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life. http://www.biblegateway.com...Think about this logically! If Adam and Eve had to eat the fruit of the Tree of Life to become Imortal, then God made them mortal to begin with. Furthermore, what was so special about that tree? How did that tree grant them eternal life? ConclusionBy thinking logically and not adding or subtracting anything, you can see how death existed before the fall. I shall also point out that the first time sin is mentioned is in Cain and Able, NOT Adam and Eve.Contention 2: One person cannot die for the sins of anotherI contend that original sin is contradictory because one person cannot die for the sins of another.Let us take a look at Deuteronomy 24:16"Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin" (emphasis mine)Therefore, we clearly see that the idea that we die because Adam and Eve sinned is contradictory to the fact that we cannot die because of someonelses sin. Another good example is in Exodus. Let us take a look.Exodus 32:30-35 Moses tries to offer himself up as a sacrifice. He wants God to punish him for the people's sin. However, God responds that it just does not work that way. If you sin, you will be put to death for YOUR sin! And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the Eternal; perhaps I shall make an atonement for your sin. And Moses returned unto the Eternal, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. And the Eternal said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them. And the Eternal plagued the people, because they made the calf, which Aaron made. [Exodus 32:30-35] Ezekiel 18 is all about the fact that you cannot die or be punished for someone's sins other than your own! This is why I reject the idea of Jesus' attonment as well.References http://whatjewsbelieve.org...http://whatjewsbelieve.org...Back to you pro! I'm looking forward to this debate. Good luck.