in a fight between itachi and pain, pain would win

although you can prove that itachi's speed is indeed 9/5 we have no information regarding the speed of pain beacuse it was shown that pain was able to out run naruto in sage mode and when naruto turned into the six tail mode he was able to esape battle here is a link to youtube where you can see what im talking about http://www.youtube.com... i think that this might be due to the factor of how much chakra pain puts into the bodies therefore enhancing their speed and so i have reason to belive that naruto's sage mode speed is equall to that of itachi's regular speed so if pain were to boost the chakra levels in the paths then it would allow them to surpass itachi's speed. i will now refute my opponents points even though he can weave the sighns at an incredible rate it is like Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique where the chakra is molded inside the body and expelled through the mouth so he still has to build the chakra inside his body and then expel it through the mouth in order for this technique to work thus allowing pain to see the chakra build up and prepare. even if pain doesnt see the chakra build up with asura's rocket propulsion boots ten meters is a short distance and they only need to make it to the corner of the blast to stop it from expoloding and absorb the chakra animal path: as i said in my cited debate i have reason to beilieve that the speed of the path's depend on how much chakra pain puts into those path's and so i think that animal path would be able to get out of there fast enough asura path: asura's chakra propulsion boots would be able to allow asura and preta to reach speeds of one seacond giveing preta path enough time to absorb this attack deva path: couldnt agree with you more but once again there will always be one eye watching itachi and by keeping this eye foucused on itachi nagato would know which one is which human/naraka: as i have stated in my cited debate the amount speed each path has is determind by how much chakra is being used in each one the othe thing is that the down part to the shadow clone jutsu is the fact that human/naraka only need to touch the clones once to make them disappear henceforth making it obvious which one is the real itachi konan: she is not attacking itachi she is simply covering the paths and nagato with paper resulting a defense against any fire techniques even the ameratsu attack 2 CON: "Even if the incapacitated Animal Path were to summon Nagato, Itachi's speed combined with his ability to see chakra would allow him to quickly locate Nagato by tracing the flow of chakra from the bodies to Nagato." this is untrue beacuse naruto would have been able to sense that while in sage mode however he was not able to so i think that some how the chakra rods method conseals the chakra from being seen CON: "Deva: The Rain Tiger at Will technique is not capable of the described maneuver [20]. Furthermore, if Deva were to attempt to blind Itachi with a ninjutsu, Itachi would be able to predict the attack with his Sharingan and evade with his immense speed." i have never heard of anyone being able to out run rain. CON: "Also, Itachi would be able to instantly incapacitate Nagato with Destiny Threat, nullifying Attacks 1 and 2." PRO: in attack one konan is covering pain (as in pain all the paths as well ) with paper creating a defense particularily for ameratsu and any other fire or water based techniques. see attack one konan CON'SSTRAT 2 that was one of the reasons i wanted nagato to be conseald to make this as realistic as possible which i sent via message which you turned down there are only three ways to counter this, one way would be for nagato to see itachi's chakra building up in his eye's and get one of his paths in front of him, the seacond way would to have konan cover him with paper, the third way is to summon somthing in front of him to take the hit beacuse it is said that nagato can do any technique that any of his paths could do now as you have proven my stratagy to be partially defective i present you with a new improved stratagy animal path: summons konan while being flung into the forrest by naraka path preta path: stands in front of nagato deva path: uses Water Release: Exploding Water Colliding Wave to put out the fire this techniques can be used quickly due to the fact that the ocean is right there asura path: uses the Water Release: Exploding Water Colliding Wave to conseal that he is coming and then bursts straight to itachi attacking him with Flaming Arrow Missiles which are heat seaking and will destroy the clones and hit itachi then engaging in close combat human path: protecting nagato naraka path: protecting nagato konan: uses paper to create a defense for nagato against ameratsu or any other fire or water type techniques as the paper can just shed off when attacked move two animal path: waits till itachi shoots out somthing at nagato then summons him so that it will waste itachi's chakra preta path: stands in front of nagato deva path: creates three shadow clones of asura path and make them use flaming arrows to blind/distract, and damage itachi and are closeing in on itachi holding deva path while deva path makes a chakra rod and fires it like a bullet at itachi using shinra tensin, similar to what he does to kakashi in anime which itach will not be able to dodge even with his high speed a bullet is faster here is the link to the technique im talking about watch pain vs kakashi above http://www.youtube.com... skip to 9:10 to see the technique asura path: engages itachi in close combat with his clones and deva path backing him up human path: protecting nagato naraka path: protecting nagato konan: confronting itachi using paper to distract itachi (like placing on ground to make him slip or putting on face stuff that get in the way) allowing an oppening for deva pain to use a massive shinra tensinwhich crushes itachi and kills him/use the bullet technique which kills him i look forward to hearing you response if i am unable to respond please forgive me