UTW Exhibition Match

RE: ESTABLISHMENT ============== Part 1: SEPHIROTH: First, it should be noted that I did NOT concede to Sora being slower than the speed of light. Read my wording carefully. I conceded that the previous evidence I offered was insufficient. However, I've contained maintain the stance that Sora is at least as fast as Sephiroth (who CON believes capable of moving at lightspeed). Furthermore, my opponent forgets that Sephiroth shows himself capable of using technques which the players in FF7 only see him using when they face him for the final time. The technique tiitled as "Heartless Angel" is an example of this. As far as the description of Sephiroth in that game manual goes, it's quite clear that it's a hyper bole, or else each character in that game (especially Jecht and Cloud) in capable of countering and besting a foe who moves at lightspeed. Watch the first video to the right. By my opponent's argument, we'd have to agree that even Tidus can fight on par with Sephiroth. http://www.youtube.com... The second video indicates how unimpressive Tidus' speed is and should be solid evidence that the statement made in the manual simply means that Sephiroth is pretty fast. http://www.youtube.com... In regards to Sora's battle, the video in the comment section takes place during KH2, hence around the time of Sephiroth vs Cloud. Once again, keep in mind that Sora bested BOTH Cloud and Squall AT THE SAME TIME. Sephiroth can't beat Cloud alone, yet Sora can beat Cloud and someone who is just as powerful as him. As for Cloud and Squall not dying, one does not need to fight to the death to know who is superior. And given that characters in FF games can lose all of their HP only to be brought back at maximum health in an instant whether it be through an item or a spell, CON's point is further established as moot. Finally, I agree Sora can lose to Sephiroth at level 99, but what my opponent is forgetting is that the story only continues if he wins (as in, we see the aftermath of the battle), hence indicating that the writers don't consider him losing as being possible. Sora can lose to anyone in the game, yet the story is presented as him having triumphed over all of his foes. Part 2: Revan: I understand my opponent's point that some force abilities are only effective against other force wielders, but the fact of the matter is that the technique which I'm referring to is not one of them. As shown by the very source my opponent is going by, force sense can be used against anyone or thing. As CON's objection to my rational, there is just one thing he is forgetting in regards to the difference between the idea of Revan being underpowered and the idea of Sephiroth being underpowered. My assertion has evidence whereas his does not. The technique known as the thought bomb is well documented as having been created and used by Revan, yet players aren't given the option of using it. On the other hand, there is never a part of the story where Sephiroth displays power which he conveniently is unable to rely on in battle. In regards to only using abilities clearly displayed or documented, my evidence is Darth Vader using it as well as there being game limitations to Knights of the Old Republic in addition to the fact that the inner workings of the technique are so simple that I (being in control of Revan) can just instruct him to combine force sense with force choke. This is no different than my opponent telling Sephiroth not to be arrogant or the Sentry not too scared to use his full power. Finally, my opponent attempts to make the argument that the force doesn't bond things together in New York City, hence Revan would be unable to use Force sense. However, when we break down what the force is, this problem isn't an issue. Lucas has long since gone about a more scientific approach to the "Force." The force is nothing more than the energy in the Universe (hence, it does bind all things together). Those who have enough midichilorian cells in their body can manipulate the energy that surrounds them. Pure and simple. Part 3: Doomsday: On the contrary, it is my opponent who is wrong. There are two black holes which are pulling at Superman. We know that they our pulling at him based on the way Superman is being drawn (like a tug-a-war game between two different dimensions, with superman being the rope): http://img367.imageshack.us... Hence, given that it's clear that the black hole is constraining him, my opponent is incorrect and my point that he'd be much faster without the black holes slowing him down stands. Part 4: Batman Let us take it from a different approach by assuming CON is correct. If you'll refer to the link the contender was gracious enough to provide, you'll note that the motherbox has the ability to transfer energy. Logically, if enough energy were transferred out of the mother box, it's Warp Power status would decrease. Revan could use this to his advantage, lower the energy to a level where shorter distance teleporation can occur and portals don't stay open as long. As for the mother box being it's own character, this couldn't be further from the truth at least in regards to this battle. The motherbox is NOT acting on it's own and is at best being used as a tool during this battle. To cite precedent of this being allowed, one need merely look back at Vash the Stampede in this tournnament as he was allowed to be considered street level provided he didn't use his angel arm. In addition, this argument would in essence eliminate Ichigo's sword from this battle since it too is a sentient being: http://en.wikipedia.org... I would also like to add that Ichigo himself is two characters in one (The Hollow inside Ichigo). Hence, in accordance to CON's reasoning, Ichigo himself would get eliminated from the round as well. RE: Negative One Second ================= Before reading further, I'd like readers to take the time to carefully review CON's source regarding Sentry. You'll note that it states that he moves at speeds which excel light during INTERSTELLAR travel. In other words, he can fly to the sun in a couple of moments ONLY because he has 93 million straight miles to build up speed. On earth, he can at best move at the speed of sound. If you'll continue reading the comment section, you'll note that Sentry only matches the HUlk (who is quite slow) in speed and that the entire battle is rather easy for even ordinary humans to witness (while not being obstructed by lighting). This proves my assertion. Since there is nowhere near 93 million straight miles to work with in this battlefield, there is no way Sentry can build himself up to lightspeed without leaving the combat zone, hence he'll be vastly limited throughout the entire fight. As for -1 second, it doesn't matter what Sentry is capable of. The fact of the matter is that he isn't allowed to do anything until the fight starts. If he cannot adhere to this, he is automatically disqualified from CON's roster. PICO Seconds ============ Since Sentry is not quick enough to do anything at this point, Doomsday speed blitzes him. With physical strength that is great enough to out power two black holes, Doomsday punches Sentry hard enough to be send out of the confines of NYC, hence ejecting him out of the battle before he can do anything. As for why I never argued against the light constructs argument, my position was always that he'd be too busy with Doomsday to mount such an assault on my entire team. Although the motherbox could be used to remove all of his energy. As for the rest of the points in this round, I have come across brilliant evidence which puts it all to shame: http://img190.imageshack.us... http://www.youtube.com...