2001: A Space Odyssey is the greatest Sci-Fi film ever.

Final Round. Response to Rebuttal and Closing Statements.First and foremost, I would like to thank my opponent for his response, and I am surprised how interesting my first debate would be.The Difficulty of Debating Against Highly Acclaimed MoviesMy opponent brings up the common argument of "you just don't get it". While I never actually said that phrase or a variation of it, I did say that it is relative to the viewer because I believe that most art is subjective, but I feel there is no denying that art such as The Creation of Adam or The Odyssey are masterpieces. The medium of art is not EXACTLY the same as cinema, but you can't deny that there have been plenty of people who yawned at the site of Renaissance paintings. And I think this goes back to my argument of our society becoming spoiled by television and the internet.On the Meaning and Message of 2001: ASOYOU JUST DON'T GET IT! I joke when I make that statement, but it just goes back to relativity. I feel that the bone turning into a space station shows how much humanity has advanced due to this monolith. What does the monolith represent? Again it's meaning is relative.I never said that 2001 is the greatest sci-fi film because I felt that it's an allegory for Zarathustra, I said that just because you didn't find a message in the movie doesn't mean that there is no message at all. I stated what I felt the message was, but that doesn't mean that no one else can find a different message. Just because I felt the movie was an allegory for his book doesn't mean that I support his theories. I see you're pulling a strawman yourself.2001: A Space Odyssey is the Finnegan's Wake of Sci-Fi FilmsWow my opponent has made a surprising comparison. Finnegan's Wake is, simply, James Joyce trolling the literary society. The book was literally made to piss people off. Now I don't think Stanley Kubrick had the intentions of trolling the cinematic world when he created 2001. I feel as if he wanted to create something that cinema hadn't seen.Consider the Medium Being UsedWhile yes there are a large number of books being sold and read every year, what kind of books are they? Can you compare Twilight to say the Divine Comedy? I was once in an AP Lit Club, and when I suggested the Divine Comedy everyone said no because they felt that the book was too long, and not that exciting. Does this mean that the Divine Comedy is not one of the greatest literary works of all time? I literally put Atlas Shrugged down when I reached that part.Is 2001: ASO the Greatest Sci-Fi Film of All Time?Let's Look at More Movie OptionsInceptionI actually feel that Inception's only redeeming quality was the end, where we don't know if the top ever stopped spinning. The film is pretentious, and that's how I feel.District 9District 9 is basically what if South Africans were superpowered aliens. There is also a huge plot hole in the film. If the aliens had such advanced weaponry, then how come they didn't fight back against the slumlords and the PMC in the first place?The Matrix (the first one...)The Matrix has amazing visuals, but that's it.AliensAliens did have an exciting theme, but can it really compare with the cryptic ones of 2001?Ghost in the ShellI would consider anime to be its own genre.The WatchmenAll I said was that I found allusions to Nietzsche in the film, not that it is the greatest of all time based simply on the fact that it had allusions to Nietzsche. I also wouldn't consider Watchmen to be a Sci-Fi film.Some Other Points From Round 2My opponent has chosen to ignore my arguments against Star Wars for some reason.MetropolisEbert also said this about 2001: ASO: "This is the work of an artist so sublimely confident that he doesn't include a single shot simply to keep our attention. He reduces each scene to its essence... t does not cater to us, but wants to inspire us, enlarge us. Nearly 30 years after it was made, it has not dated in any important detail, and although special effects have become more versatile in the computer age, Trumbull's work remains completely convincing -- more convincing, perhaps, than more sophisticated effects in later films, because it looks more plausible, more like documentary footage than like elements in a story. Blade RunnerThere are multiple version of the 1982 film. One's with no voiceover, no dream sequence, and where it is clear or not if Deckard is a replicant.AvatarCon has chosen to ignore my arguments of Avatar as well.One Final NoteWhile it is true that Con never brought up the film Transformers, he continuously brought up the fact that modern Sci-Fi films that rely on special effects are better, so I brought up a movie that relys heavily on special effects.CLOSING ARGUMENTS2001: A Space Odyssey is still one of the greatest Sci-Fi films ever. I feel as if my opponent has not found a film that can topple the greatness and influence of 2001.I urge everyone to vote Pro! Pros before Cons! May the best debater win.