Atheist, are under Gods wrath, no attempts should be made to convert them.

Now, now, now, your true colors reveal themselves? We do not curse. Don’t get your panties in a wad. If your gonna play in the adult world, BE adult? Child I say, Child you are, till you show some sense of respect for God instead of your religion. Con-Your whole point is that atheist are unredeemable. Do you see? You spout inaccuracy and want us to believe you know what you’re talking about. But every word shows your completely lacking in both knowledge and experience. This is the Debate: Atheist, are under Gods wrath, no attempts should be made to convert them. Where does it say Atheist are “unredeemable”? That’s proof you’re not even aware of the subject? So should you not “be” aware of the subject before you respond? Otherwise you fill the page with irrelevance because you’re under the wrong self-imposed delusion. Con- You say that pagans have a chance to make it to heaven though. I quoted Acts 17:22 and the last part of Acts 17:22 said ”So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.” Paul says they can be converted because he is about to proclaim the Lord to them. I am not you. I use Gods word to preach Gods word, where as you use your own word … under some delusion that unbelievers NEED YOU to explain Gods words too, them. God does not need you to explain anything, He NEEDS YOU to testify of His working in YOUR LIFE, not your interpretations of His Word. So get it right! Con-Here is where you're wrong. I'm a Catholic (I also wanna know your religion), and the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches …. Hmmm- I’m sorry I just went back to my scripture, and the Bibles listed in the Biblegateway.com website some 202 different translation of the gospels and … I seem to be having trouble FINDING a catechism? Can you SHOW us where the Bible provides us a … what did you call it? A catechism? We’ll wait for your response of course, patience IS a virtue. Doesn’t the Bible expressly Forbid, the adding to or taking away from it? Is this your first encounter WITH the Bible on your own? Con- What's your evidence that atheists are impossible to convert? You infer pagans are redeemable, and say pagans are incomparable to atheists because atheists cannot be saved. Sigh, I hate to repeat myself but you may have missed it before so: The Debate Heading This is the Debate: Atheist, are under Gods wrath, no attempts should be made to convert them. Exactly where is impossible Stated, and You brought up Pagans not me! Remember this? Con- (First off, I'd like to use atheism as well as paganism in this debate. Now you got your drawers in a wad, on a topic YOU brought up? Don’t want the truth, don’t bring them up! Besides, I quoted Acts 17, where pagans were discussed. Read it yourself, it’s not hard to understand. Con- You use scripture that is entirely irrelevant to the question of this debate: Atheists are under God's wrath and no attempts should be made to convert them. Ahh HA, See you DID know the topic, but promptly went off on your own tangent, your own thoughts, your own beliefs not Gods, THEN brought up pagans only to whine because I had to use scriptures on Pagans, now your crying foul. You now bring up catechism, which of course MANDATES the use of scripture which demonstrates Gods forbidding of such practices and will no doubt, burst into a fit of despondency when I show them to you, when YOU’RE THE one whose “bring them up”! Again don’t want to know the truth DON’T bring them up! But? Deuteronomy 4:2 “You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take anything from it” Deuteronomy 12:32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.[a] Psalm 119:160 All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal. Proverbs 30:6. "Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar" Proverbs 30:5 “Every word of God is pure; he is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.” Revelation 22:18-19. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this Book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this Book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the Book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this Book" Tell us child …. Exactly “where” IS the catechism” located IN the Bible? Con- While I'm quoting scripture that actually RELATES to the topic, you are spamming bible verses. Really? Spamming? Sigh such ignorance of scripture is being demonstrated here. Con- As an example, you quote Matthew 16:24, "Then Jesus told His disciples, "If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me." Okay, that's a nice verse. However, it has nothing to do with your point of converting atheists. COULD YOU BE any denser! Okay I’ll will let the audience decide this: How can you ever HOPE to convert someone into something YOU are NOT! I cannot teach mechanics if I’ve no experience AS a mechanic. God says Con is NOT A DISCIPLE, Pro makes no such assertion beyond what Scripture points out. Con has clearly NOT denied himself, Con has clearly NOT taken up his cross and followed after Jesus, therefore Christ states, not Pro, that Con cannot BE His Disciple, until he does these things. So you audience tell me? If Con is not a disciple, how is he going to MAKE disciples? God makes disciples God used pharaoh, but Pharaoh received no blessing because he wasn’t saved. No I’m not saying Con is not saved, God knows Pro doesn’t. I shall hope he is. Point IS that Matthew 16 clearly does have to do with the subject, which is the saving of people. Not my fault Con cannot see this. There’s a lot Con doesn’t see. Con-Another example, Proverbs 22:19 "So that your trust may be in the LORD, I have taught you today, even you." Another good verse, but has no pertinence to the actual debate. As to believers, you do not have to be a scholar, you can even be brand new to Christianity. I ask only a desire to grow, quicker than you would normally. This was in the opening of the debate 2nd sentence, not my fault Con doesn't READ before he talks. Con- It takes true Biblical knowledge to quote the right verses yeah like catechism? like Relics worship?....(2 Kings 18:4) that what you call TRUE Biblical Knowledge is it Con? Take that to God con. Ask Him to reveal to you just WHAT He thinks of YOUR Biblical Knowwledge! Con-You have a list of quotes from atheist where they outright deny the existence of God. While many atheists are very stubborn Another example of Dense: When the Jews denied Christ THEY were just being STUBBORN?. And God did "what" to those STUBBORN souls? But No, not to Atheist, He only did condemned to death millions of Jews over the last 2000 years for Rejecting Christ, But if the Atheist reject Christ .... smell what your shoveling Con.? So when you REJECT Christ, your being .... stubborn is that how it works in this little shangrila of yours? To bad God does NOT see it that way! Con-Apparently you think I'm ignorant of the word. That's fine if you believe that, however don't just say that, EXPLAIN WHY. That YOU willfully go in defiance of the Holy Scriptures to PLAY Religion condemns you itself. Go then, continue in your violation of scripture, and profss yourself knowledgeable. You only demonstrate complete lack of Biblical understanding when you cite God, while you defy His word, and insist on performing your Religion. What difference is there between you and the Pharisee. They knew scripture better than you, they followed the commands of the Torah to the last dot, and they were as LOST as an unbeliever .... why? They never got BEYOND their Beliefs. Tell me Con, are you so busy for the King that you demonstrate NO TIME FOR the King? Con-"YOU are not a disciple little one." There are two definitions of a disciple, a personal follower of Jesus during his life, especially one of the twelve Apostles (which is neither of us) and a follower or student of a teacher, leader, or philosopher. I am a follower and have studied Jesus, therefore I am classified as a disciple. Your feeble insult is easily refuted with an unbiblical definition. Really? Where is that written in scripture Con? Or is it more the gospel accprding to Con. Matthew 16:24Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. Luke 14:27And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple. There are the scripture on Followers Con and Disciples, lets see yours that says there are TWO types of Disciples? We would like to see that. Con- This calls to mind something: you don't have to know every passage of scripture to be faithful to God's teachings. Sooo you just gonna open up and the Bible just gonna poor right out of your disobedient self, when you've not read it, is that the plan Con? Exactly WHAT is your definition of faithful Con, cause your statements indicate many things, but faithful is NOT one of them! Your just going around a legend in your own mind, and the scriptures do not work that way. God isn't asking, for you to serve Him, and OBEY Him He demands it, Anything else? And all you've got is a get put of Hell free card, you've no part in His inheritence, and few rewards IF any. How sad Con, the entirety of your statements shows and extreme ignorance of the Bible, Your a Catholic, whose entire focus is on Religion, and what is really bad is that yourTraditionsstand in STARK contrast to Gods written Word. You will not be able to defend your adding to Gods word. You will not be able to defend personal interpretations of Gods word, when it expressly forbids this. No Con, your young, foolish and following in your own interpretations, which provides you excuses for failing to do the commands of God. And God is watching.