Christianity is a religion

Ok thank you... "My opponent has failed to provide definitions, so I will do so:" - This comment here is fairly pointless, failed to prove what to a devoted atheist? The definitions are true definitions, but that is not all, and if not for Christ Jesus, there would be no Christianity. But there is such thing as Christianity, for one soul purpose, to have a relationship with God through Jesus. Now it is religious to believe in God or many gods, and it is religious to pray and fast, and eat bread and drink wine, go to church and read the Bible and do well and obey God. But, and it's a big but, none of that will ever, ever get anyone, no one into the Kingdom of God. Which is all religion teaches, you must do this and that, and go do that and go do this, like this and like that. You must pray five times a day, and you must fast for 40 days, from 6am to 6pm. No! None of that, although it is good and you will gain respect by doing these things, it is not sufficient, it is not enough. It's only necessary, so when you have accepted Christ then you may begin to serve God. Christ is when you begin, without Christ all religious people are fooling themselves. What Christ does to people who are chose by God, are washed clear of their sin, and then from there their good deeds, prayers etc count for something. Unlike religion which offers no savoir. Religion is trying to fly to the moon without any fuel, religion is trying to hear without any hears, religion is trying to see without eyes, I could go on and on with ease as you can see, many analogies can be shown to show you how religion is false. Christ however is the fuel, he is the ears and he is the eyes for each of those analogies. So to simply say that Christianity is a religion just because God is involved is misunderstanding the whole point. The thing is that people do not include God in their lives, and before Christ was crucified and resurrected; God's Grace could not be given. Christians include God, only through Christ, not in any other way. So Christ is the door way to the real meaning of salvation. God cannot save you without His payment, unless He would become unjust and unrighteous, and more so unloving. "these are the very components of Christianity which MAKE it a religion in the first place." - Yes Christianity does carry religious values, like pray and worship, but if it was not for Christ it would all be worthless. And therefore what does Christ do? Make these things count for one, and not only had that but wiped away all of your sin. Sin separates us from God, and religion is just that, man thinking they can get to God while living in sin. It's false. Let me use politics to express my point further. Say there was a political leader who said, "All our problems are over, we as a country will end school bullying, under age drinking, divorce, obesity and crime will have it's place no more. There will be no more war and energy supplies will no longer be an issue..." You would probably think, 'Yeah like that would ever happen.' In the same way you would think about Christianity, "Yeah it's a religion." Politics isn't good; in fact politics is the reason why we have so many problems. In the same way religion is the reason why we have so many problems; we have religions because we are separated from God. Worshiping God with music and your voice is good, only because of Christ; by thinking that you are connecting to God by doing such things as praying and worshipping is misleading. Christianity sorts out the sinner before anything else. The reason why I spent a lot of time on the righteousness of God and His justice is because I wanted you to understand that if Christian God judges by that standard, why then would it religious, for you are all guilty who are not in Christ. If you call Christianity religious then you call evolution religious. For this reason: In the same sense that evolutionists believe that because there is micro evolution there needs to be macro evolution, Christians believe in eternal judgment because there is justice on earth which is only temporary, like micro evolution is believed to be temporary. As in an animal isn't the same animal forever, they change right? So you see the similarities there? Eternal judgment vs macro evolution, both eternal. Earthly judgment vs micro evolution, both temporary. Call Christianity a religion you call evolution a religion. Unless you want to lie to your self and focus more on the words and there meanings and not on the comparison of Christianity and evolution. If I compare a car to something that drives like a car, feels like a car, handles like a car and it is the same weight as a car, it is most likely going to be a car. Remember that I am not focused on the means of words but the comparisons. Now I believe Christianity is not a religion because it does not address the notion of 'getting to God' by ways and means of men. It in fact reverses that account by God coming to us as Christ. Now you can say that men thought that up, thus it is religious, a super religion if you like. But if God really did come to us like He said in His word, what would it seem like? As it does now, either way, it is not about factual accounts but the perception of the on lookers. How one sees and perceives things. Remember that if there was evidence that Christianity wasn't a religion that evidence would change you, but you cannot see the evidence so you must change, only conclusion to pull from that, is that they happen at the same time. It is not word play! "Of course I won't, because Christianity is a religion." - Definitions aside, they are pointless here, all definitions do is enhances a persons perspective on what that person thinks is right. You think Christianity is a religion and you say religion is this, and Christianity for you fits into the term religion. Look I do not care, we could have argued that Christianity is the only religion, and other faiths are just seen as religion, they are mere attempts by man to made sense of the universe, completely missing the point, and missing the whole meaning of religion. If Christianity was a colour, say yellow and other colours like red mean Islam, and then Christianity would be a religion. Because both yellow and red are colours therefore both Christianity and Islam are religions, but there is a problem. You don't believe in any religion and you do not believe in Christianity, so it seems right for you to say Christianity is a colour as if religions were colours. Try from this perspective; if the colour green caused globe floods then you would not say green was a colour, but more like something that needs to be extracted from existence, therefore it not being a colour. And if green is taken out of existence then so would red, brown, blue, orange etc... and there would be no colour and therefore no one could see. And possibly because of this all colours need to be extracted from existence, in other words all religions must be wiped out, if Christianity goes so does religion, if Christianity is in so is religion. Religion is at the other end of the stick to Christianity. You cannot just have religion and nothing else that motivates it, because there must be truth in religion otherwise it wouldn't have come about. Christianity fulfils religion if you like or religion fulfils Christianity, remember, good deeds is proof of faith. You cannot have a stick with out there being a tree and you cannot have a stick without having someone to use it. The tree is Christ and man is the person, religion just has the person a stick. In the same way white is Christianity, man is the person observing colour and blue, green, pink etc are religions. "Now that I've countered my opponent's arguments, I will provide my single argument:" - But the last one, which still stands. Thank you, I await the next argument.