America is a republic (polidity)

This is to prove a point though, that for our government to be a republic we have to start with Democracy and thus chose the indicative path for exercising that power. " No we do not, America didn't start as a democracy, my federalist papers proved this. Our Founders did everything possible to avoid democracy in the new nation they were creating. You will not find the word democracy in the declaration of Independence or in the Constitution of the United States of America or in the constitutions of any of the fifty states. Our Founders new very well the dangers of democracy's tyranny of the majority over the minority. They deliberately established a republic to constrain the excesses of democracy. [1] we where never a democracy. Sorry you do not have to defend 'pure democracy' but you have to argue the generic version. Majority rule etc. "We even have elements of pure democracy like ballot, tax, bond, local election, state constitution, and special measures that all are voted on directly by the public. " The video I provided last round refuted this. Also as I said America is a republic, a republic is a type of democracy. So it will have a few of the same aspects. Also your quote is blatantly false. Democracy is majority rule, and America is not. In a jury you need a unanimous vote. Also George bush won with 49%, Lincoln with 40% etc. That is well known, look it up if you disagree with me. "Just because the framers of the constitution wanted to avoid a rule by the mob and called their new government a Republic does not mean my opponent wins." It doesn't mean I win but it proves my it was meant to be argument. "His analysis forgets that the power of our officials and of the document that gave power similar to those of a Republic came from the people." Yes a republic can be by the people. The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended.[2] So a republic is a group of PEOPLE electing a smaller group of people. So it is by the people through the electorate. Also to a response to your second quote, whoever that is is misguided. If we are meant to be a democracy why doesn't the consitution say it. It says the word republic. Further more your source says it indicates a representative Goverment. That's what a republic is. A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place [2] So you just added and helped my argument. Also a refutation from the we are not rome. Your source doesn't say the time period. They did not make laws but had similar powers to the senate now (minus religeon) Religion and the Roman Senate The Senate assumed to themselves exclusively, the guardianship of the public religion; so that no new god could be introduced, nor altar erected, nor the Sybiline books consulted without their order. [3] Finances and the Roman Senate They had the direction of the treasury, and distributed the public money at pleasure. They appointed the salary or allowance to their generals and officers, and provisions and clothing to the armies. [3] Just like ours as they are the ones that pass budgets. I will just say the main things instead of c/p it. all from my 3 source. appointing diplomats and other things. like ours. had to deal with crime and punishment. ours don't do this always. They pass laws on what is allowed and the judiciary branch does a well. So kinda like ours. So they do not have the distinctive power as ours but they have similar roles. Also they have 100 members, according to my 3 source, just like ours. Rome was founded as an aristocratically lead nation in the hills of Italy. At some point, they turned into a republic, where citizens were represented by their Senate. [4] compare These leaders, much like the ancient Roman founders of the Republic, tried to create a government that was fair. They paid much more attention to givng power to the people, to stopping tyranny, and almost none to making themselves powerful -- they were, without a doubt, great men and human beings. [4] the roman one is the first description, the second america. It says that they share the republic values. "As you can see they had neither the power to make laws and were not in fact elected proving that OUR POWER TO CHOSE REPRESENATATIVES THROUGH DIRECT ELECTIONS is in fact something only granted in a democracy." A direct primary is defined as a vote cast in a ballot. Look at 5 source. Do you have a source how it is only offered in a democracy. Also republic is a modified democracy and shares some things, voting, usually majority rules (sometimes differs) etc. Also a republic offers a direct voting system: In contemporary usage, the term democracy refers to a government chosen by the people, whether it is direct or representative. [6] Also lets look at the electoral collage: it represents a republic not a democracy as stated in my 7 source. Also the founding fathers hated direct popular vote and democracy (the 2 go together by definition) Also a rebuttal to the founding fathers are for democracy (false): "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." Thomas Jefferson Thanks 7 source. This disproves your idea that the founding fathers are pro democracy. rebuttals for conclusion yeah who would expect that: yes my definitions and my comment said you argue majority rules. I said "so majority rules" you have argued differently technically breaking a rule. My sources are factual as yours do not say who wrote them. Also my sources this time are pristine. Also wikipedia is a good source. Imabench won a debate on that. --conclusion-- vote pro as i have refuted my opponents arguments and have presented facts. And I had more sources. I have proven that we are a republic, and my opponents case really doesn't negate that. My video above also proves my point. http://www.youtube.com... I refer to my video. --out of room-- sources: http://conservativehideout.com... [1] http://www.constitution.org... [2] http://www.roman-colosseum.info... [3] http://www.nolanchart.com... [4] http://www.yourdictionary.com... [5] http://en.wikipedia.org... [6] http://www.earstohear.net... [7]