Curent high school education should not be mandatory

Refutations "Rather they either provide goods or services that benefit society, find ways to reduce prices of goods or services, or fund the two. .. Also, those that provide goods and services that benefit society, also receive money for themselves, so these people have self-interest to go to either high school or college. " It would seem that my opponent completely agrees with me here. People who graduate from high school continue on to college to pursue an academic subject they enjoy. Then they graduate from college or learn a large amount of knowledge and then start their career. To get a job, you must attend high school. No one hires a 14 or 15 year old fresh from middle school. There must be very little experience or intelligence in that person if he drops out of school after middle school. My opponent has let up on this point, so I must say that one of my most solid arguments is that going to high school later benefits society. "In my opening topic I did not state that high school is not useful. I stated that high school should not be mandatory. " So since it is useful, shouldn't it be mandatory? I don't understand the argument here. "Jobs like janitors, construction workers, drivers, garbage collectors, mailman and cashiers do not have to learn this information. Even service industry jobs such as chiefs, hair/nail stylists, actors, entertainers and musicians still do not have to learn this information. " This is wrong. Just because you think someone isn't going to make it far in life, we should simply abandon them? And just let them fail in society? In high school, there are things you learn about government such as social security, Medicaid, and other important subjects. Imagine if a large amount of our world was run by eighth grade graduates. They simply do not understand enough about the economy, international relations, and society to run government. In America, people vote for who they want as the president. What if these people vote for the most ignorant candidate? And he eventually becomes our president? We need to have these people go to high school so that they can learn about society and so they can live comfortably on their own. As I previously stated, no one would offer a job to a middle school graduate. So all those occupations you previously listed, won't exist because no one is hiring an eighth grader. "Why would dropping out of school lead to a life of crime? " How else do you make money? Without education, you will do bad things to get money. No one hires a middle schooler. "Should I help somebody go to the Justin Bieber concert, if one does not want to go to it? Should I help someone to have sex, if one does not want to have sex? Should I help someone go to school who doesn't want to? " Yes, indeed, you should. Because there is a benefit in that action. There is not benefit in taking someone to a horrible Justin Bieber (shudder) concert and the second inappropriate action doesn't do anything at all. That's rape, which is illegal. "If you take notice here: . http://4brevard.com...... notice that the countries that perform better than the United States at the very least have a division in high school, between vocational school and preparation for college tracks. Also, explain why American universities are considered to be the best in the world while our high schools are mediocre? " This is very interesting. Because, in that exact website, when you look under "Causes for Failure," you will find the answer. How peculiar that it says that "the biggest deficits are found at the middle school level. " That's the school right before high school! The greatest weakness is at middle school. You even said that countries that perform better HAVE a division in high school. So high school clearly is important to do well in education. Why the US has the best universities but poor high schools is irrelevant to this topic. "This rebuttal is absurd, since it assumes that this resolution creates a chaotic society. Murder, rape trespassing, slander, and stealing will still be illegal. " Let me remind you what I had refuted. I refuted the idea that school infringes on the freedom of others. There are many things in society that infringe upon the freedom of people. So should we eliminate all these things because of lack of freedom? No, because then people could do whatever they want and they can commit crimes and most people will. Don't laws restrict freedom? I guess they do, so we should eliminate them! No, that's the completely wrong idea. Why not get rid of school completely because it restricts freedom? My main refutation is that just because something restricts an amount of freedom doesn't mean you should get rid of it. School is not a jail sentence, it is a privilege to go to school. "As far as I'm concerned, I do not see how not going to school is harming anyone else in the world. " As far as I'm concerned, I do not see how going to school will harm anyone in the world. And plus, you get the benefits, too. "I also do not understand why one cannot discover their passion on their own, rather than have school discover them for you. " Do you see American children running around with textbooks on their free time? No, we have schools to teach children because children would not want to learn things themselves and would rather just play a video game or have fun with friends. High school is mandatory for the exact same reason. School is there to help someone realize that they enjoy a particular subject. Without school, do you think we would have engineers, physicists, or government officials? Not at all. K-8 subjects are simply the pre-form of bigger topics such as physics and engineering. Without math, you wouldn't understand any of this. Without history, you can't understand government very well. "I also do not understand why one cannot discover their passion on their own, rather than have school discover them for you. If one truly enjoys something, it should not require school for someone to pursuit or find their passion. " One will not find the answer by him/herself. No one truly enjoys studying, especially for the first time. School helps people learn something they enjoy and in college, they can invest more time in. My response to your last paragraph: Persuasive essays are much like debating. You're trying to make convincing arguments. I don't see the difference between a debate in real life to a debate. org one. Good conduct is required in real life and online in debates. It's odd that you cite yourself and your mother. Arguments Going to high school helps the average American's earnings. According to "By the Numbers," the average hourly earnings of an American high school drop out decreased from about $13 to about $10. However, since the 1970s, it has been found that those who earned an advanced degree received an increase of 20% in earnings. If you go to high school and then move onto college instead of dropping out, you will receive benefits, namely money, and everyone loves money [1]. Benefits of high school: 1. Reasonable education 2. A job 3. More money (from job) 4. More informed about society and know how government works What I am arguing is that high school is beneficial to people and therefore, students should attend. Source: 1. . http://www.boisestate.edu...