Nudity Should Be As Legal As Clothing

No need to apologize. We all have lives. I appreciate you taking the time to debate me and give me your views on this highly volatile issue. You've treated me better than most when this discussion comes up. For that, I thank you. Note-I'll present my opponents comments in parentheses to separate them from my responses. (All of this debating has now come down to where we can clearly identify the differences of opinion that we share.) Nothing wrong with that. I love differing opinions. Makes life interesting. (Law makers have put forth these laws because they believe that it would be in the publics best interest to not allow nudity. We too could consider that these, as a human rights law, will be drafted with the utmost care due to its sensitive nature. Making them much more susceptible to an opaque interpretation.) I guess I'm a bit more cynical than you. I don't put anything past an elected official. Might be why politicians have such bad reputations. I can only hope the laws they pass reflect the majority. If for no better reason, than they want to keep their jobs. (I do understand your point of view but I do not feel you are any where near close to the majority in your take on nudity. If that were the case every state would not feel the need to put in place laws restricting nudity. There would also be far more people demanding otherwise.) The laws mistakenly mention nudity while leaving clothing alone. Certain clothing is not acceptable in public, but politicians didn't see the need to include them in the wording of indecency laws. My question is, "Why is that?" I believe they knew that clothing alone didn't represent a problem. If nudity was more accepted, then it wouldn't be included in the indecency laws as well. It's my job to educate the public and that's what I'm doing now. (We cannot make assumptions on what crimes would or would not occur about a naked society with no data to support it. We know these crimes do occur and if we are making assumptions, I would lean towards nudity making these crimes more prevalent.) There is crime in a clothed society. People commit crimes while clothed. Can we agree on that? Do you believe clothing is causing these crimes? Do you believe clothing is increasing the number of crimes? If not, then what is? Why do you think nudity would cause more crime? I don't believe you can blame one or the other. And if you think nudity would increase the crime rate, then you can't give clothing a pass based on the fact you prefer clothing to nudity. Let's be fair. Clothing and nudity do not contribute to crime in our society. One should be as legal as the other. (I have seen my entire life scantly clad outfits that one would find attractive. The allure of this will never go away. Looking at a nude female to me is batter than a clothed female.) Funny thing is I get no desire from seeing anyone naked. I actually need to see people clothed to get any sexual feeling. But I think we are moving away from the point of this debate. Why not ban clothing since it is creating sexual desire as well? The more nudity becomes accepted. The less people will feel any desire. Then we can truly evolve as a society. (Look at any television show. There is more nudity shown each year. It is what the public craves. But not for any reasons of freedom. It is lust. It is the law of attraction. It is a natural.) If we don't ban clothing in public for creating this desire or lust, then we can't ban nudity in public for it either. (Why do Strip clubs do so well? Not because the subject matter is that people want their freedom. They want nudity, they want sex. They (we) have urges. Seeing nude people everyday would not make my own urges for the opposite sex any less.) But you can control them in public and act decently I assume? The same would apply to your interactions with naked people in public. Just seeing someone clothed or naked is not enough to make you act indecently in public. Do you ever see someone clothed that turns you on? How do you act when you do? If you pose any threat to naked people in public, then you are an equal threat to clothed people. You see many clothed people in public and hardly notice them anymore. You might look at one or two more closely, but then you don't care and move on. The same will apply to naked people. If I put you in a room of naked people, it will take less than five minutes for you to become comfortable and forget they aren't wearing clothing at all. The same applies to clothed people. If I put you in a room with clothed people, it will take less than five minutes for you to become comfortable and forget they are wearing clothing. Naked people are no more interesting or desirable than clothed people. Your attraction is based on your own desires. And I trust you to keep those in check. (Don't you feel there are many people that would not exercise this right with caution and with good sense?) If a person is incapable of such, then they pose a threat to both clothed and naked alike. I don't give people a pass for bad behavior based on whether the person they choose to commit these crimes on are clothed or naked. To me, someone who cannot control themselves in public deserves what punishment is currently on the books. You can't blame the victim for the crime. Neither can you blame clothing or nudity. (I can think of how public nudity could turn ugly very quick in our natural everyday surroundings. Not because I'm conditioned to believe nudity is anything terrible. There is just good judgement to be made and a time and place for certain things.) Crimes are already committed in a clothed society. Things already turn ugly pretty quick if someone does indecent acts. Can you blame nudity for that? Can you blame clothing? A person who is willing to do indecent acts in public won't care if the people are clothed or naked. They are beyond the point of operating in a civilized society. I'm going to make one additional point. Take a long look at yourself clothed in the mirror. Ask yourself if the clothing you wear makes you the person that you are. Ask yourself if you become a different person while wearing clothing. Now take the clothing off and do the same. Ask yourself if you deserve any less respect from others without clothing. Ask yourself if you're any more desirable without clothing than when you were wearing it. And finally ask yourself, I enjoy being able to make a choice of what to wear on my body without someone telling me I cannot wear it. I enjoy being comfortable in public and won't let someone tell me what I can and cannot wear. It is none of their business and if they don't like it they can simply not look. You give that freedom to clothed people. Why not give that freedom to someone naked? Why not choose simply not to look?