Eternal Security Is the Truth (Christianity)

Let us look more closely at some of the pillars my opponent posted [[(1) John 10:27-29.]] My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me. The word follow is in the present tense not in the past tense of someone who once followed and left the fold, but of someone who does it currently. Correct no man can pluck us out of the fathers hand, this is giving a security to the believer that Christ will keep us, but it does not suggest that one can't fall away from the faith ! In fact one can fall away from the Grace that has saved him ! Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. [[[( (2) Romans 8:35-39]]]] We learn from Romans 8:35-39 That tribulation nor distress not persecution, nor famine, nakedness etc. can't separate us from God. But why isn't sin listed ? Surely if one can't lose their salvation, then the mighty Apostle Paul would have listed sin among the others. The reason sin is not listed, is because sin can separate us from the love of god. Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. The word Iniquities means - gross injustice, wickedness, SIN http://dictionary.reference.com... [[ (8) Ephesians 1:13]] Throughout scripture Jesus likens the church to a bride and himself as a bride groom. The holy spirit of promise symbolizes a promise ring given to the bride of Christ (Revelation 21:9 ) A promise ring is a pre-engagement ring http://en.wikipedia.org... The Holy spirit dwells in the heart of the true believers which is the earnest of our inheritance (2 Corinthians 3:3) But what happens if one blasphemes the holy spirit ? Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. One can also reject a gift, many bride to be have broken off weddings. We can also answer your number 3 here - [[(3) Philippians 1:6]]] What performs the Good work in you ? The holy spirit of course,it's the holy spirit that regenerates us (John 3:5-8; Titus 3:5). but if one has blasphemed that holy spirit how can it work in one ? The answer is it can not ! [[[[[[The first and easiest way to answer this is to figure out if God ever sent anyone to hell on purpose. I will also go into this deeper in the further rounds but keep it simple for now.Exodus 9:12 - And the Lord [a]hardened Pharaoh"s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the Lord had spoken to Moses.Ex 7:3-5 - And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply My signs and My wonders in the land of Egypt. ]]]]]]] Yes God refers to people as vessels of wrath and vessels of mercy(Romans 9), he hardened Pharaoh's heart to show his power to Israel that is why the scripture says Romans 9:17 Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Judas Iscariot was another example of one who served the purpose of God, Christ picked him in order so he would be betrayed and sent to the cross to die for mankind sin. The word "raised" here in the Greek is exegeir!3; which means 1. to arouse, raise up (from sleep) 2. to rouse up, stir up, incite It's obvious by the context here that the scripture doesn't mean I created you with the purpose of sending you to hell and making you my enemy for the fun of it. It means God rouse up i.e. stirred you up, incited him, the purpose being that he had the Israelites in bondage, so God hardened his heart in order to show the Egyptians his power ! That is why he kept hardening pharaoh heart, the scripture also says pharaoh began to harden his own heart near the end. Exodus 8:32 And Pharaoh hardened his heart at this time also, neither would he let the people go. I'll looj at some of the TULIp since almost out of Characters T - Total Depravity / The idea that we are born in sin and all are depraved without God ( this is commonly accepted) I agree with T U - Unconditional Election - People are elected not by their works or any merit of their own works 2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. L - Limited atonement - Gods atonement (salvation) is limited to a set group of people ( this is a key point in understanding eternal security as well) 1 Timothy says God wants all to be saved not a limited set group. 1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I - Irresistible Grace - One can resist and harden there own heart Hebrews 3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: 3:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)