China would have been better off under the Guomindang

In this round I’ll do all of my rebuttals/ counter arguments. R1: “The Communist Party of China in the past (espeically during Mao Zedong's regime) had comitted massacres and left the country in a horrible condition at the time. The Republic of China today in Taiwan is as propsoerus as many European nations today. Western influence and US aided industrialization would have helped China become more prosperous than it currently is today.” Firstly, Taiwan and size is significantly smaller than China. With Taiwan’s population being at roughly 23 million and the mainland being at 1.3 billion. The mainland completely dwarfs Taiwan in both landmass and population [1][2]. It is far easier to govern such a significantly smaller landmass than Taiwan, making the government a lot less prone to the same type of mistakes as mainland China is. Remember, when the RoC had governance over China, not only was the country unstable, but social and economically in shambles (as mentioned previously). The mistakes of Mao’s regime would have been just as easily committed if not worse under Chiang Kai Shek, because remember, Mao’s regime was at least stable. China barely had a central government in the period between the overthrow of the Qing and World War Two. Not only that, but much of said prosperity in Taiwan can be attributed to Western aid, to which the mainland saw little of. Not only that, but under Deng Xiaoping, China saw a level of rapid industrialization in the past 3 decades that took the west a century and a half to achieve. China was still prosperous under the CCP, just not under Mao.[3] (insert https://upload.wikimedia.org... image) Sources: 1. https://www.google.ca... 2. https://www.google.ca... 3. https://upload.wikimedia.org... R2:” Communism is greatly isolated countries and thrown back their development by years. We can see all ex-communist Asian nations have fared out worse than capitalist asian nations backed by the US during the cold war. The USA has laregly contributed to industrialization and development in Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea. Hong Kong has prospered due to the British helping upon development, it is worth nothing considering UK is also a western nation which is politically and culturally similair to the US.” “all ex-communist Asian nations have fared out worse than capitalist asian nations” China’s economy is the second largest in the world [3],and is not only on par with the US but set to overtake them in the coming years, with a GDP of 6.8 trillion as of 2013, this completely dwarves the GDP if neighboring South Korea and Japan[1][2] Secondly, China was better off aligning with the USSR for the sake of stability. If China aligned with the US, this would throw them under the fold of Soviet antagonization. Remember, China was mostly fine if they had been antagonized with the US during the Cold War, that’s because the US is so far from China geographically speaking that the event of a war would not bring upon major causalities in the mainland. Had China aligned with the US and antagonized the Soviets, tensions would have been *far* higher. Realize that China directly bordered the Soviet Union. In the theoretical event of a war, Northern China would have been devastated, arguably more devastated than they were in WW2. Source: 1. https://www.google.ca... 2. https://www.google.ca... 3. http://www.theglobalist.com... R3: “Other indicators of a country's success such as life expectancy, per capita GDP, Infant mortality, etc. have all favored South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong which are on par with Europe. Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam are all ranked at the lowest in Asia in these indicators. Furthermore, censorship remains a major addressed issue in China; censorship is minimal in Taiwan and other western-influenced Asian countries.” The debate is not on whether China was better off under Communism, but if they were better off under the CCP. We are debating whether China was better off under a political entity, and not the ideology itself. Even with Deng Xiaoping’s capitalist-leaning reforms, the CCP was still the CCP. Hence, it is irrelevant to bring up the lack of prosperity in other former-communist countries as the ideology of communism itself is not the subject of the debate. Not only does that but the correlation between prosperity and political leanings during the Cold War not make it the cause. Correlation does not equal causation, Pro here has made the assertion of a cause on the basis of a correlation. R4: ” The USA and PRC are also economically relient on each other, but there have been strict tensions between the US and China causing issues for both nations economically. Under a possible KMT victory, an alliance existing to this date is debatable, however a past alliance and western influence would lead to greater relations with each other. “ See R2. R5:” Mao Zedong has killed more people than Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin's massacres combined. Mao ordered people to massacre anybody who expressed the slightest bit of opposition towards him. Mao's "Great Leap Forward" had lead to disastrous farming methods and horrible distribution of food has lead to the one of the world's worst famine. Deaths due to a lack of food to eat has led to 50% in some Chinese villages. Other policies by Mao have also lead to disaster as well. Mao had left China in ruins; China had a per capita GDP of $182.68, one year after Mao's death. It was only until Deng Xiaoping's reforms, had China begun a long economic recovery. Chiang Kai-shek would have done much better than Mao did in the theoratical Republic of China.” China wasn’t fairly well off under the KMT either. China had gone under at least 5 different famines in the period between the fall of the Qing and the declaration of the PRC [1]. There were at least 3.5 million causalities from famine in this period from Northern China alone. By 1943, roughly 7 million other deaths came from Famines in the Henan region. Most of these causalities occurred during the period of instability in which the KMT could barely hold central power. If Chiang Kai-shek couldn’t even hold stable control over China in the 20 year period after the fall of the Qing, how would they be able to recover the country after all the devastation of WW2? Sources: 1. https://en.wikipedia.org...