Atheist, are under Gods wrath, no attempts should be made to convert them.

I say the following yet not I but God, because it is not JUST YOU I hope to instruct. That you came to God by a denomination is not the problem, that you remain in a denominational mentality is counterproductive, and it is this that hinders you. To demonstrate this you need ask yourself one question and answer it honestly? When is it okay to be disobedient to scriptures of God? Depending on your answer you learn or fail to learn. God doesn’t speak to closed minds regardless of your denomination. You fail to grasp spiritually discerned things because you live in a denomination that purposefully violates scripture, having made excuses to relieve their conscious, but violate them nonetheless. They venerate people (wrong), they venerate objects (wrong), they speak lies (wrong). They worship the doctrines of Men (wrong). They busy themselves quoting MEN instead of God! You have witnessed this personally, but because the Spirit of God is kept under tight reign, you never HEAR you’re being taught the words of MEN and NOT God …. You just go along in your little denomination thinking it will save you. It won’t. This is to all denominations not just yours. How many times have you heard the word of God only to have it perverted immediately by the quotes of simple wisdom of MEN? I am of Apollos, you say, another I am of Paul, still another I am of Peter, I am of Wesley, all of you wrong ….. WE ARE OF God, there can be no other. Continue following men called saints, you will get nowhere, NONE of them paid for the remission of your sins, and none can save you except Christ and Him you dishonor by your actions. 1 Corinthians 3:4 For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere human beings? Whom do you follow? What human have you tossed Christ aside for? Is it a wonder you have no spiritual discernment? Repent or Not as you wish. In all these things denominations fall short. Thing is, the Bible denounce all these things but with a simple excuse, denominations justify the lie and in so doing sacrifice relationship with their creator. So sad, Sad because it is all there in the scriptures, in black and white, yet just as well been written by invisible ink, as the children of God refuse to see, yet proclaim an inheritance MANY will never see. Mores the pity, yet I (not God) at times wonder, was it not Gods will? Man cannot overpower the will of God …. So is it Gods will, that only a remnant shall inherit Crowns, Kingship? Hmm, I speak of Thrones not of reward. As I have said …. It is all there, in the scriptures but? Nope …. The largest part of Christendom appears …. Shall we say Oblivious? Take heed, Read and go to God ask for clarification of this scripture; Revelation 3:21 ”To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.” Overcome what? Let us bear witness to what it cannot mean? Salvation! Christ paid the FULL price of salvation, so this scripture cannot mean salvation, as God Himself readily stated that those given Him He has not lost 1. Here; John 6:39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. Okay sooo That’s pretty clear! So salvation, Check present and accounted for. So what ever does it mean … to them that overcome will I GRANT to sit with me? Soooo, there will clearly be those who will NOT sit with Him in His throne then? (are we learning yet?) …. To those who overcome what then? Denominations! Their OWN wills, Their OWN ways. WHAT????? You mean the right to sit on Gods Throne ISN’T FREE …. GASP!!!!!!! That’s right children, be bad and your smoked salmon (1 Corinthians 3:13-15), overcome some, your rewarded …BUT to SIT on a Throne, you MUST OVERCOME like whom? Does it say like saint this or that? Does it say Like Paul, Peter, John ….. NO! LIKE Him? And Christ overcame what? THE WORLD. Sigh, so much to do, so Little time left! Con-First off, the word damn is in the Bible exactly 15 times [1]. I thought you would know that You know JimShady, if you would just step aside forsaking all others and turn you teaching to God alone, in 1 year you would know more than a person coming out of seminary. The only thing that’s stops your ability to understand is you? For example … something soooo simple, you cannot even understanding. Damn is used in scripture to denote eternal punishment. Never anger and frustration. Congratulations you just told people a Lie that God cussed in scripture, a thing everyone knows is untrue? Can you begin to see “why” your thoughts are suspect? You must never pervert the word of God, not even to save yourself! Do you now see “why” you fail to see the truths of God? If you cannot see something that small, how could you possibly understand the greater things? Con-I am aware of the subject. I find it laughable that you say I am not. Sigh, from the frying pan into the fire, first you pervert Gods word now you lie.? Shame on you. Everyone noted that you said I told you Atheist were unredeemable. I showed you I said should not attempt to “be” converted, I never implied they could not be, you said that. I said they must go to God themselves asking forgiveness, THEN it would be up to God. But like the entire debate, your so filled with what you think that you can’t grasp the simplest points of scripture … like damn for example. Con-Again, I want to know your religion. Please tell me. From your constant use of the Bible and the Bible alone, you must be a Baptist. But please tell me your religion. If you ARE Catholic, you should know that there is an official Catechism of the Catholic Church that proves you wrong on atheists completely. This IS an indictment of the Catholic faith BY a Catholic .... there need be no further clarification required, Like the Jehovah's witness and the Mormons you go OUTSIDE the Bible for your learning. The ONLY THING that IS SAVING Catholics is that THEY BELIEVE IN Christ Jesus .... they IGNORE Him of course and His word, But God did only require your true belief in Him to BE SAVED. So Catholics, congratulations for you the fix is in .... Get out of Hell Free, "Check" But no thrones for you, at least not till , well you know. Con- If have already explained how, by the way. Here is the link (removed) It has been written by Bishops of the Catholic Church, and bishops have are descended from the Pope, who is a direct descendant of the apostle Peter Uhhhh and that the popes are not Jewish doesn't bother you? Cause everyone KNOWS that Peter WAS A JEW! Went to ancestry.com did they? Could you be any more gullible? Peter WAS NOT ITALIAN! He was JEWISH! Sigh! Con- The whole pagan-atheists thing is something I want to drop. Consider it done but …. Hehe I’m not the one who CLAIMS the prophets were CUSSING in Bible text. Everybody knows who’s clueless here. BUT it’s all there in the Bible a thing you Catholics appear NOT to read. You spend all your time in the Catholic version of the Watchtower. And I am also NOT the one trying to pass off forbidden false doctrines to an unsuspecting crowd. The popes where NOT present in Gods day, Peter flatly DENIED Christ and had to be restored BECAUSE he LOST his apostleship with his rejection of Christ. I know I know you want proof …. vcause your catechism left that out. I don’t know why you just make excuses to deny truth …. BUT okay, I suppose you deserve the truth, so; Mark 16:7 The Resurrection …6 But he said to them, “Do not be alarmed. You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here! See the place where they laid Him. 7 But go, TELL HIS DISCIPLES and Peter, ‘He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see Him, just as He told you.” Peter lost his discipleship by rejecting Christ. Make whatever excuses you want, there is NO denying this but to CHOOSE blindness to the truth! Christ Himself said the disciples, deliberately LEAVING Peter out, because he was no longer an apostle …. Christ had to RESTORE Peter! Hence ……. Tell the Disciples ….. AND Peter. Jesus Reinstates Peter 15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?” “Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.” 16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.” 17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my sheep. 18 Very truly I tell you, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.” 19 Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, “Follow me!” Con-I like your verses about not adding to the Bible. That is true, but 1.What Christian religion are you? I am not religious YOU are! 2.Answer Luke 15:7, Luke 10:37, and 1 Timothy 2:4. They are Biblical verses that explain my debate so well compared to your verses, and so far you have completely ignored them. You HAVE NO spiritual insight so you remain ignored! because you do NOT know the difference between Atheist and unbelievers is "WHY" these scriptures are being used without your understanding and OUT of context! 3.What religion would you be if Apostles and Jesus did not convert people to Christianity? Even the Apostles would be upset with this question As the Spirit of God converts, NOT MAN! You won't understand this but oh well, your loss. By the way, neither of THEM WERE Religious ... you are! Question #4 Is awaste of time! I've explained it already, believe, don't as you wish, I'll answer question 4 and 5 in comments as I've no more room.