The Bible Qualifies as a Collection of Fairy Tales - E

Let's begin with definitions. You have agreed to ignore the 4 definitions used last round. So now we have 1) includes magical creatures 2) incredible or misleading or 3) made-up stories. My opponent says that incredible has two definitions. However, his second definition is the same as the first. Extraordinary as to seem impossible and hard to believe/unbelievable are synonyms. If so extraordinary as to seem impossible is the story of MLK, than so is hard to believe/unbelievable. And a biography of MLK is not a fairy tale. So the word incredible is not the definition. Now he also uses the word "not credible." His own source defines credible as capable of being believed. So our true definition of fairy tale for this round is 1) about magical creatures 2) not capable of being believed 3) misleading/made-up stories 1. Giants Again, my opponent fails to realize that a cubit is not an exact number. If he read his own Wikipedia article, it would explain that Goliath was "four cubits and a span, (approximately 200 cm or about six feet seven inches)." Numbers 13:33 employs a literary device called exaggeration. Like, I was a bug compared to him? It refers to the strength and stature of probably 6-7 ft. Back then, that was considered a giant. And finally, I will repeat myself for Deuteronomy 3:11, a cubit was not a standard unit of measurement. A cubit was the length from elbow to base of hand. That is approx. 1 foot. So he was 9 feet tall. The largest man recorded was over 9ft. 2. Dragons The dragon is a symbol for Satan. Revelation 20:2 identifies the dragon, "He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years." So it is a use of another literary device - symbolism 3. Cockatrices Here is another use of cokatrice as an adder http://www.gnpcb.org... Like dragon, the "fiery flying serpent" is a symbol for Satan. In other words, sin. 5. Chaldean's Horses Again, what's magical about them? You seem to be reading from the book of Habakkuk, of the Tanakh. The Chaldean horses are described in the Old Testament book of Lamentations 4:19 as "Our pursuers were (A)swifter than the eagles of the sky" My opponent has frequently shown that he quotes symbolism as evidence of magical creatures. Furthermore, another translation of Habakkuk in BE says "they come from far away, like an eagle in flight rushing on its food." The word "like" is included to emphasize that the passage was metaphoric. 6. Sorcerers/Witches http://www.searchgodsword.org... Link above shows the word "qecem" to be withcraft of false prophecy. In other words, pagan/nature worship. Kashaph and Kesheph are actually translated as the practice of withcraft/sorcery. http://www.searchgodsword.org... Witchcraft comes from witch which comes from Wicca which is associated with paganism. http://www.essortment.com... Sorcery can mean either the practice of withcraft or practice of magi religion. Magis "were a class of priests, the Magi of Zoroastrianism, and their reputation together with that of Ancient Egypt shaped the hermeticism of Hellenistic religion." http://en.wikipedia.org...(paranormal) They believed in complex ceremonies and "spells" in their religion. The use of witch and sorcery in the bible refers to a pagan or Magi, one who practiced a religion that was under a "false god." So no, magic (our conception of magic) is not used. People who practice paganism and the Hellenistic religious are. Does the Bible give credit that they have power and can use our definition of magic? No. In Daniel, sorcerers failed to interpret the Kings dream. Throughout the Bible, sorcery and witchcraft (aka the practice of other religions) is fake. 7. Other Gods The "false" gods are false because they are not real. false is defined as "deceptive" by your dictionary source. So if the gods are deceptive, that means they aren't gods. Hence, "false" gods. 8. Creation I did not know that it was a fake fossil. I will no post, then, any evidence of why the theory may be true because you will not have a chance to dispute it. However, I will say that you never provide any evidence why the story in Genesis is false. Since you never did, you can not say that it is untrue. With no evidence to falsify it, the story of creation is just as plausible as it is implausible. 9. Temptation You say incest would make this impossible. "In small populations, as long as children born with heritable birth defects die (or are killed) before they reproduce, the ultimate effect of inbreeding will be to decrease the frequency of defective genes in the population. http://en.wikipedia.org... If Adam and Eve did not have the "congenital birth defect" necessary for the the increase in defective genes, incest would not be a problem. Now your first and second sources are discussing space travel and how many people would be needed to maintain a space colony when they arrive. Reproducing on Earth is much different than reproducing in space while sustaining an orbiting space colony. 10. Life Spans I apologize for just discovering this now, but here the explanation. The Hebrews measured time in lunar months, not the Solar year introduced by the Egyptians. Therefore, Noah would have lived to be approximately 76 years in our time measurements. The discrepancy comes from misunderstanding http://www.domainofman.com... 76 is much more believable. Also, the Jews were known to be a healthier people, because they followed religious tenants (i.e. bathing regularly and in hot water) which the majority of the populace did not. 11. Plagues My opponents attack on the plagues is that they are incredible events. Well, I have already shown previously that "incredible" is not a definition for a fairy tale, because both of my opponent's definitions for incredible would fit a biography of MLK. He has not proved that the plagues were about magical characters or impossible. And I was only offering the bacteria of an example of what might have happened. I was not saying it was the only plausible reason. 12. Red Sea The fact that we have not yet discovered a split is not a reason why it is impossible, because the scientific community discovers something new all the time. Split occurs, water is pushed away by the force. The split creates a dam like structure. The pressure behind the wall breaks the wall when the sea is crossed, water floods back in. 13. Jonah Jonah tries to climb back out when the whale is swimming next to a beach. Whale notices something is wrong. Spits Jonah out. God's power 1. The book of Joshua is explaining that the land of the iron chariots is not to be taken. The other book shows that God did not allow its capture. The verse uses "them" to refer to the attackers, not God. 2. By impossible to lie it means you are never wrong. If you are never wrong, you can not be proven to have lied 3. Yes God did strip Jesus of his divinity. If you read the Bible you would know that. If he hadn't, how did Jesus die on the cross? Every time Jesus healed the sick, God granted him the power (also explains that in the Bible) So this is why I win the debate. My opponent had three definitions to fairy tale that he had to prove. 1) magical creatures I have shown again that the "magical creatures" are symbolic, metaphoric, or simply a follower of a different religion. My opponent has not shown one magical creature that the Bible makes out to be real 2)not capable of being believed Hundreds of millions of people believe in Christianity and the Bible. Obviously it is capable of being believed. 3) misleading/made-up stories My opponent has not proven that any of the stories are impossible or made-up. He has also failed to disprove God's omnipotence. Even if you ignore all the evidence and examples I presen