Christianity against Atheism

Sure, No np in continuing this debate. I"ve always been fascinated in how religion manipulates the human mind into destructive capabilities especially when there is absolutely no proof of any god ever existing not for any religion, Not ever. Christianity, Namely the bible in which its religion is solely based is no exception. And you were mentioning that your religion is based upon jesus christ and his teachings, And yet there is no proof of his existence. Strange isn"t it that all miracles, Every single one of them over the past two centuries have been debunked? That"s because science have caught up with them and proved them to be hogwash. Let"s be real honest and coy here. Do you know who this years winner of AGT is? His name is Shin Lim. He must have fooled at least 200 million people with his card magic. Now do you really think that your jesus, In which there's no proof that he ever existed could have not fooled a simple 12 apostles? And once again, Your god would never be stupid enough to use text, The worst form of communication possible. Do you really think that supposing that your jesus existed, That the verses in the bible are exactly to the letter what he said with all the translations and language barriers through the thousands of yars that have transpired with no backups whatsoever because there was no original to trace it back to the original? Did your jesus have secretaries to jot down every single verb he stated? Oh I get it, Every single sentence he stated that is in your bible was translated through memory - and memory is always subject to failure. To prove how correct this it, Get a circular table of 8 or 9. Whisper into the first person"s ear 4 to five random sentences. Something like "Its a fine sunny day today. I shall arrive at work soon. When I am there I have a lot of work that needs to be done. My cubicle is a disaster. " Then that person tries to whisper those same sentences into the next person"s ear and so on and on until it finally gets back to you. By the time it gets back to you, The sentences are so grabled that making sense of the original sentences is impossible. Try it! Now do you really think that your apostles got it right considering the fact that these people of the time in that area couldn"t read or write? Now there is evidence of christianity as a religion. So? It doesn"t make it true. Its just as true as Ronald McDonald or santa, Or thor, Or even He-Man or She-Ra "I am the power". "When God sent his son Jesus to Earth to die for us, . . . " WRONG. Nobody sent anybody to die for me and or anybody who is sane. Again YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS. Nobody who is sane am going to partake is someone"s knowing suffering. How stupid is that? The Buddhists teach the end of suffering. Its not a "belief". Christianity beliefs teach the beginning of suffering. It is a fabric of its teaching. Awe gee, I just cannot imagine which one I would choose in not knowing a single thing about either or if I only knew those two things about them. Even worse is your christ could have only suffered for 17 hours tops. That"s it. There are millions that suffer, Sometimes for decades. A perfect example is your god knowingly creates children to be raped, Beaten and tortured by daddy, Age 4, As daddy sticks his you know what inside of them pumping away while he punches them in the face sometimes twice per week. Your god knowingly creates daddy and gives the power to daddy to knowingly do this and again, If not, Then your god is not a god, Is not in control of everything, Doesn't know everything, Is not in charge of everything, Is not all knowing and all powerful, Is not omnipotent, And is certainly not perfect. The devil? Then your god gives control to the devil which is far worse. Either way the victims suffer as clearly as---your---god---wants---it. If not, Then he would not create it. Simple. And then you have the victims. In this case the children who suffer, Who have no free will whatsoever to get away and SCREAM. So DO NOT talk to me about hell. When your god knowingly creates hell for millions of children each and every single year. Got it? Getting back to jesus" "He rose 3 days later and the Old Testament Laws and Prophecies were fulfilled. " Really? Show me where in the OT that this was stated? The fact of the matter is, Is that its not even close. Nice guess from something in which you clearly know nothing about. "This is why we don't follow some of the things from the OT such as no working on the Sabbath. " No you do what you want how you want and when you want to suit you and only you. Now to prove you 100% wrong from both the OT and the NT (once again sorry about my harsh language but its the way I talk but the again thus far you"ve answered and or have gotten to nothing that I"ve presented in my previous argument). Let"s start off with (and btw this is not my idea but it proves that your bible is a joke unto itself, No offense)" John 5: 16-18 "16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, And sought to slay him, Because he had done these things on the sabbath day. 17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, And I work. 18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, Because he not only had broken the sabbath, But said also that God was his Father, Making himself equal with God. " There are several problems with this. 1. 17 Sorry, Ain"t no possible way that jesus"s daddy is going to work on the sabbath, Not ever, Not for any reason, Not ever. So either 2. Jesus is a complete moron and doesn"t know this in which thus he is completely incapable of being the messiah or 3. Jesus flatly lied about it that is daddy would be working on the sabbath thus proving himself to be a false messiah. 4. 18 jesus proclaimed HIMSELF to be the messiah. This in no way was ordained by his daddy to be the messiah (this is also proved with John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, The truth, And the life: no man cometh unto the Father, But by me. ". 5. Or god is going to work on the sabbath which would never ---ever--- happen because then that would thus prove the entire OT to be false. 6. Actually since god is never going to work on the sabbath and since these few verses thus prove christ to be the false messiah, It also proves that christianity is false and the entire NT is false. This is not my idea either (once again it proves your christ to be false and your bible to be erroneous) Pay attention closely: *Proverbs 30:5 "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. " *Isaiah 40:8 "The grass withereth, The flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. " *2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, And is profitable for doctrine, For reproof, For correction, For instruction in righteousness:" *Psalm 19:7 "The law of the Lord is perfect, Converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, Making wise the simple. " *Psalm 119:160 "Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. " * James 1:17 "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, And cometh down from the Father of lights, With whom is no variableness, Neither shadow of turning. " In other words god"s word is PERFECT. It cannot be changed by anyone or anything. Christ, Being the lowly drab that he supposedly was in which like god who in which nobody can even prove has ever existed could not change the laws of his god because the laws of his god ARE PERFECT. Therefore he could not break the laws of god such as working on the sabbath and should have rightly been executed. "When Jesus died and rose again"" We're going to ignore that. Not enough room. OK let"s get into more reasons why your god would never use text as a form of communication, The worst form of communication possible. You just invented excuses. I really hate that. Let"s give you a few translations to show you how distorted your so called truth of the bible can get. . * In the Bishop"s bible, The one before the KJV, The word "Tyrant" was used I don"t know how many times (its at least 400 from what completed records show) and then in the KJV that was replaced by "King". WHAT? Tyrant and KIng are two different and totally apples and oranges with each having totally different meanings. * In Isaiah 45:7 KJV "I form the light, And create darkness: I make peace, And create evil: I the Lord do all these things. " In the NIV version its "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, The Lord, Do all these things. " In the NLT its "I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, The Lord, Am the one who does these things. The words "evil" and "disaster" and "bad"are completely 3 completely different words that have 0% of nothing to do with each other and completely change the meaning of the verses. With each different verse, The messages are completely different. The synonyms of each word don"t even match. There's a couple more that I have searched through if you want. Now if it occurs in these translations, Then it i=occurs through all of them spreading different messages and you have no idea which one of them is correct. Nobody does. Nobody interprets correctly. Its not even a close call. Your god would ---never--- use text as a form of communication! You might want to check up on that one where your god murders babies, Children and pregnant women. I will post a few verses for you to look up in the comments section, That is if DDO will take them. In the past they haven"t. But you might want to use some common sense young lady and FIGURE THINGS OUT in that once again your god murdered 2, 821, 364 in your bible alone oh and oh yeah what do you call the great flood? Do you think that everyone were men? No babies, No children, No pregnant women - thus no abortions? Simply google "how many did god kill in the bible? " I'm out of space