Atheism vs. Christianity (Pro - Atheist, Con - Christian)

Before I get started, there are a few topics I would like to address. First of all, I thank my opponent for accepting my debate and eagerly anticipate the outcome. Secondly, In the comments I understand that a well learned debater presented a few ideas (which I don't condemn him/her for) which wish to subject me to limitations I find slightly flawed. Under inspection of your profile I assume that you take a Christian or theistic point of view, claiming that God, the creator of science, can't be disproved by his own creation. This, however, is not what we observe, which I will hopefully prove to you. The next restriction placed on me is not to use theories. The definition of a theory is as follows:“a scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses." National Academy of SciencesA theory is a well tested hypothesis. It is still a reliable source. To use only facts would be impossible. My opponent can't even mention God if this method of debating is consistently used. God is a tested theory not a fact. If I interpreted your message incorrectly, be free to align my thinking according to yours.Introduction Religion has been around for thousands of years. Some have gradually receded and wallowed in their own death, others bud and flourish in popular support, or might we say delusional support. Despite the extreme difficulty to track traditional beliefs the farther you decent in history, Glenn Morton, unfortunately another delusional creationist, who is also a member of the Society of Exploration Geophysicists with a B.S in physics, reports that the earliest sign of religion is roughly 300,000 years ago [1]. As we progress through history these religions dissolved and new ones took their place. Up til around the late 17th century and early 18 hundreds, during the time of the enlightenment, the notion of no God was almost unheard of, according to the University of Cambridge [2]. So once we began to understand the whys of our world, god began to slip away, for a very good reason. Actually for quite a few good reasons. For our debate, we would like to demonstrate the absurdity of the Christian God.Argument 1The logic of God For my first point let's disprove Christianity with logic. Logic is the backbone of Atheism. The main supporting argument that adds sense into atheism is the absurdity of religion. Christianity is an extremely easy topic to prove its primitive origins. For example, simply look in the creation of the world. This basically how and why the world is created.The world wasn't there, nothing was, only a floating being entitled God. He never came from anywhere, He's just always mysteriously been there. This God having supreme knowledge, powers, and every thing you can ever imagine, was for no reason there, wherever there was.Suddenly for no reason He decides to create people to worship Him, therefore He forms angels. These people aren't enough for Him so He creates more, including Lucifer. Lucifer is a special angel in His mind. He created him to rebel against Him and lead the future world to Hell. So in this action He made a feeling being to rebel and suffer for eternity for no other reason than being created rebellious.But this wasn't enough, God decided that one suffering wouldn't satisfy Him. When He created Satin, He knew that he would lead millions of His angels down with him, ultimately in Hell. To get a better picture, this is what happened. God created angels while deciding that one-third of them would suffer excruciating anguish for eternity.He still didn't stop there. In God's mind, millions of people still needed to fill Hell's gates. Throwing words into utter darkness, planets, light, and life began to grow. Finally he raised Adam from the dust, and shortly after Eve from him. To make sure the human's fall was set in stone, he dumped a tree in the middle of the garden for good measure. Sitting back in Heaven, He watches Satin turn Eve against Him, which HE FULLY EXPECTED! Now millions of people have to burn in Hell, because He decided to make it that way.According to the bible, Job 21:22 [3], Romans 11:33-34 [4], Job 34:21 [5], and etc... God is all knowing. He's in control, nothing happens unless He allows it. This is God's plan, He created people to go to hell. Even if He didn't have a choice to create satin and sin, He still doesn't allow millions of people into heaven according to the doctrine of election (Eph. 1:5,11 [6]) This comes in direct contradiction of the bible which claims that He is a loving God. There is no way to avoid this.Argument 2 The Lack of ProofBut even if we ignore this contradiction among many, we still have zero proof that God exists. Christians; however, decide that there is proof. One example of this is prayer. Christians always speak of the “power” of prayer. In the Bible there are many verses which specifically state that if you pray and have faith, God will answer your prayer, Mark 11:24 [7], John 14:12-14 [8], Matthew:18:19 [9], James 5:15-16 [10], etc... So if we pray we get an answer. Simple, right? With this in mind, what happens when we pray to God for the healing of an amputated limb? We all can safely assume that nothing is going to happen. Amputated limbs have never healed in all of time. But in the bible, it says that he will answer prayer. Hmm, why doesn't He answer? Well, it's because the the existence of god is an illusion.To illustrate this further, consider the following evidence from Raymond J. Lawrence in the New York Times. He writes,“RESPONSIBLE religious leaders will breathe a sigh of relief at the news that so-called intercessory prayer is medically ineffective. In a large and much touted scientific study, one group of patients was told that strangers would pray for them, a second group was told strangers might or might not pray for them, and a third group was not prayed for at all. The $2.4 million study found that the strangers' prayers did not help patients' recovery.” [11]Prayer doesn't help, it's all imaginary.Argument 3Lack of scientific understandingIn atheism, we realize that the bible is the work of primitive men. Under this conviction we would expect to find outdated thoughts and beliefs. This is exactly what we do find. Consider the following examples. Creation of the world Genesis 1:6 - “And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” [12] The “firmament” — raqia in Hebrew — is a solid dome. This is what the bible pictures the world like. Jesus' lack of understanding John 3:8 - “The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.” [13] Under modern science, we now have the knowledge of where the wind comes from and goes to realize that it has no control of itself. Here in the bible, Jesus talks as a simple minded person of the past.Bible lack of understanding Matthew 4:8 - “Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” [14] Here the Jesus looks on all the world on a high mountain. However the most you can see from the tallest mountain, Mt. Everest, is roughly 250 miles. In this verse, Jesus shows that he has no conception of mountains and the spherical shape of the Earth. The only way for this verse to work is the world has to be flat.QuestionsIn my opponent's next speech I would ask him to answer the following questions. :Do you believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God?: Do you believe the Bible should be completely taken literally? If not, which sections would be taken literally and which should be taken figuratively?: Do you believe abuse, racism, and slavery are moral?: Is God all-knowing? : Is evolution a possible beginning for humankind?: Is God loving?: Is the eternal life\death literal.: Are claimed contacts or experiences of God or Jesus today real? : And why don't amputated limbs heal from prayer? ConclusionThere are millions of arguments like this which demonstrate the absurdity of Christianity (these will be brought up in a later period of the debate). The only sensible alternative to Christianity is Atheism. In my next argument, I will present the explanation atheists find convincing. 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