Assessment of Parental Ability Should Be Compulsive For All Expectant Parents

The Fritzl article did not answer some of the questions I wanted it too, but I guess it answered enough. no one new he hid his daughter but they did no about the 7 children from her, so before he said she 'ran away' she must have already given birth to them, so I think there should have been a point people could have got suspicious. It also seems the scenario I mentioned of the standard for what qualifies as child abuse eventually including spanking your kids rear end has in fact occurred in my opponents country, the only reason it is not reported sometimes is because of an unwritten code of relative respect for those parents that still use the method, and the accaptence that evoking this law by reporting them will only make things worse, in essence the law would make it worse. I would like to know what physical discipline does qualify as 'reasonable chastisement' but your link took me to an error page. Hear in America if we see several bruises in various stages of healing we report it. a single bruise is expected on all children as they are are always doing things that gets bruises on them in not so traumatic ways. like using the monkey bars after it rained. I would say spanking falls under that but you say it is clearer covered in your law. My opponent accepts a few of my points including: 1) psychological illnesses are notoriously difficult to diagnose 2) the government (witch would end up in charge of these assessments) is far to incompetent at this kind of thing. 3) We cant make permits for sex 4) abortion cant be used to give consequences to this law either. 5) putting all of what we have talked about under the government is a troubling thought. How are they explained away from this resolution? 1 is 'we have to try' and without the government factor I completely agree. 3 & 4 are avoided because she wishes to put the children in orphanages only. but then goes on to say the orphanages and child care systems we would be sending these children too need improvement. I agree, and note that kind of steps on the appeal to your solution. My opponent though does stress that most of the time taking the child away to any such facility would not happen (you are more optimistic than I) as the problem itself would be solved at the home. That is the best solution I agree, perhaps one day in the future methods for solving the problems there will be reliable enough to use. for there current capabilities I will return to that point in a second. 2 & 5 is along the lines of 'it has to be done, the alternative is doing nothing'. This is not the case at all. The power of ones local community of people who do care is mighty. this link is to a programme called the buddy backpack system http://www.dynamoms.com... In my community it came to many peoples attention that a large statistic of elementary school students starved over the weekend, they depended on the school breakfast and lunch to get food. the various churches, and clubs like the ruitan, ect.., have joined together in to form what we call the 'community alliance' that would make this backpack programme work. When I first herd of it I had asked if this group was the equivalent to our towns government, cause the county is our smallest local form of government, but this group is a lot more local than that. the answer was no its 'communities taken care of themselves' because there are no taxes involved in this, just the group effort of getting the funds from personal donations to make things like the buddy backs work. Its what Mike Huckabee refers to as self government http://www.redstate.com... we fix the problems at the home by keeping them from happening in the first place. The government has less to tax us for when there's no crime. We have the power to stop a third parties interference in fixing our problems when we fix them ourselves. How does this work with parental psycologicle problems. the community funds, not through tax but volunteered donation, the people who can help parents that need it. We of course in this mutual community effort that keeps a political government out of the pitcher cant give consequences for failing to respond to our help, we could only help if its accepted, if its just one parent maybe encourage him or her to get a divorce and the court should side with the sane parent in child custody. if both there still is reporting it to child protective services that is already in place without a community alliance that you as an individual can do right now. the strength of the community alliance would not have the power to make individuals go through assessment, we can only help the cases we notice, if they accept. In conclusion there is noting that a power that can make assessment compulsory (meaning the government) can do without making it worse, that we ourselves cannot do the good without the worse. There are no real options available to the government right now to give consequences to this law that we can depend on right now. You spoke of neighbors stating 'someone should have done something' as if its contradictory to avoiding new legislation that claims the power to do that something like the plague. but the solution is not new legislation, the solution is that neihbores should have done something themselves.