God doesn't exist.

Note: When Pro says 'God created people', I am assuming that he means what is essentially Young Earth Creationism, where God created the universe and then straight to Adam and Eve. EVOLUTION First, Pro says: "However evolution contradicted the beliefs of the Church who always thought the God created people. " Sure, evolution contradicts the TRADITIONAL beliefs of the church, but the catholic church in particular has even accepted evolution in recent times: . http://en.wikipedia.org... . The theory of evolution and belief in the Judeo-Christian God are entirely compatible, and no problem is caused through belief in the two. Pro then goes on to say: "The Church and the Bible teach that God created people. If God did not create people then either god is a liar, or the Bible is simply not the words of god. " I think for this statement, I think I need to point out that the Bible can be interpreted in several different ways. In Genesis, many Christians believe in the literal interpretation, sure. But there are also many Christians who believe in the figurative interpretation - that is, that the days are not 24 hour days, but rather stages of creation. I think this is more of a debate withing the confines of Christianity - not within the confines of whether God exists. So the Bible by no stretch teaches the literal interpretation - that is a matter of opinion. And so no, God would no be a liar if Genesis was a figurative piece, nor would it mean that the Bible is not the word of God. PRAYER Here, Pro says: "Perhaps I cannot prove that this is true, however Con has not proven that it is false. " I mean sure. Given our lack of knowledge, we cannot draw a conclusion either way. But considering Pro is the one making this claim, he is the one who needs to provide evidence in this debate format, but unfortunately it is simply unprovable either way. We are not omniscient. FREE-WILL Pro says: "So god GAVE humans free will, they were not born with it. That's new to me. " Sorry Pro, but I really don't think I said that! I said that "God created us as free creatures", and so it would be a mix between the two, I guess. God 'gave' humans free-will, but we are 'born' with the free-will that God gave us. WOULD WE KNOW IT IF GOD EXISTED? Pro says: If god existed then people would know it. Just like the grass is green and people KNOW it. It is as simple as that" I would say that yes, most people would 'know' that God exists. There would be a few people that freely rejected this God. And, that is exactly what we see. We see around 6 billion people on this earth that believe in one form of God or another. And, they do know that God exists - just like the grass is green or the sky blue. It is a reality for them. And so I agree with Pro, and we see the evidence before our eyes! Pro then says: "Free will refutes my arguments however it does not support Con's" I certainly agree with this, Pro. And that was the exact point - to reute your arguments. I never intended to support my position with free-will; rather I intended to prove it with both the Ontological and Cosmological argument that I presented earlier. CONCLUSION Overall, I don't think that we have heard any serious objection to the existence of God, as i have hopefully shown. My opponent has concentrated his arguments to the Judeo-Christian God, as opposed to the general creator of the universe the 'God' would be defined as. Even so, many of his arguments centered around a general misunderstanding of Christian Theology. As for the motion, I have given 2 arguments that have not been refuted, and so the conclusion follows that God exists. Thank you for the debate! God Bless Sources: . http://en.wikipedia.org... . http://www.gci.org... . http://www.theopedia.com... Alvin Plantinga: Knowledge of God