Abortion

"Yes, a woman can get pregnant even if she does all the safety requirements and I'm not saying you shouldn't have sex unless it's for a baby. I'm saying that there is birth control for a reason that works 99% of the time. So the mother is irresponsible. If she can pay $1000 to get her baby killed, she can spend less than that to simply avoid a pregnancy."- The point is that it only works that way in theory. My friend's parents got pregnant twice using birth control and condoms. Some people are more fertile than others. Is it ok to punish those who are responsible and still have a bad outcome? As for a lot of unwanted children. Here are my citations.: http://abbafund.wordpress.com... http://www.numberof.net... http://www.unicef.org... http://www.worldorphans.org... http://www.adoptuskids.org... http://blog.childtrends.org... http://www.howtoadopt.org... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... http://www.unicef.org... http://earthtrends.wri.org... http://www.un.org... There are clearly a lot of unwanted, unadopted children in the world. If you want to prove me otherwise, you will have to cite it. It is the most serious in Africa because of the AIDS crisis as you can see by my last couple of citations. Also according to my sources there is no lack of children up for adoption. "If there was so many "unwanted" babies, why on Earth would someone travel to different countries after waiting five years or more to receive a child and by the way, the trip costs thousands of dollars and this is not including the fees to adopt. I was adopted from China. If there were people who didn't want to adopt I would be in China right now and Steve Jobs would not have created Mac."- Because they know that the need is greater in those countries because those children have lives that are not nearly as good as our wards of the state. "Other countries take care of their own problems. Why help other countries when they can help themselves."- Except they cannot help themselves because they are poor third world countries who are worse off than we are. "There is no doubt that I feel bad for raped women, but which is better? Murder or rape?"- Under the law it is not defined as murder. Many people do not view it as murder. Until you can prove that abortion is truly murder under the law, which it isn't, that point is invalid. "The woman can hate the kid all she wants, but if she gives it up for adoption, then she won't have to look at it, love it, or care for it for the rest of her life because someone else will do that."- Ok but you are also forgetting about post-pardom depression, the nine months of her life she is wasting, and the hatred she could feel for the thing growing inside her. "She was part of the crime, she was victim so now she must take responsibility and not put it on something that had no part in the rape in the first place. Why kill something innocent for a crime that the father committed."- You sound as if you are partially blaming her for being apart of a monstrosity she could not stop. She had no part in the rape either so why should she be punished let alone something that doesn't think or feel or have anyone who cares about it? "Also, rape will stay with her no matter what. It's something that scars someone emotionally. Aborting the kid won't make it any better."- It is not necessarily true that it will not make it better. She will not have to waste nine months on a baby born out of a monstrosity that is part of the monster that raped her. She also won't have to risk her life and her well-being to bring in into the world. "It's almost like someone's kid who got ran over by a car and survived with much physical damage. Should the parent kill their child because it pains them to see their child in a helpless estate? Should the parent decide that instead of dealing with it like a mature adult, they'll just kill the child because it makes them hate the driver every time they look at the kid? You're almost saying the same thing."- First of all you have no right to say that a woman who has problems dealing with being raped is not being a mature adult. As if that is something that is easy to get through. It isn't like your analogy at all. First of all the kid in this situation is not the child of someone who scarred the parent for life. Secondly the child has become a person by developing a personality and people who care about it. People care about the child run over by the car. No one cares about a fetus. And for the record we do kill those who are in a helpless state and will never recover. Pulling the plug on vegetables is totally legal. "Why, if a heartbeat is not so important, do we do CPR and check for heartbeats when someone is knocked unconscious or is dying? We do it to see if they are alive. This is the same. We check fro heartbeats to see if a person's living, then the "fetus" must be living if it has one. The fetus is a baby."- So just because something is alive makes it worth saving? We don't seem to think so in cases of vegetables and animals. I never said the fetus was not alive, I said that it wasn't a person. It has never been the case in terms of laws and in society that something is worth saving just because it is alive. "No child is unwanted so there is no reason to kill it. Steve Jobs could have been aborted, but made a computer most people use today. Steve Jobs was adopted and obviously wanted by someone."- A baby is wanted by many people yes. But there are more babies that need homes than people who want babies making those who do not get adopted unwanted children. "Some of my best friends were adopted and in one situation, it was either my friend get aborted or a divorce. She is the greatest friend I have. So really I care a lot because just think, if they were aborted, all of my friends wouldn't be here and neither would I. Don't you know anyone adopted that you love? They could have been aborted, but their parents decided to make the right choice."- It isn't as if we would not have any more children to adopt if abortion wer illegal. In many countries people cannot get abortions. Some people cannot bring themselves to get an abortion. Others don't have the money. But it should be that person's choice as to whether or not they want to get an abortion. You cannot honestly say that you care about every aborted baby. Do you honestly feel that much pain knowing that those fetuses are getting aborted every day? Even if you friends were aborted, you would have developed other friends that you likely would love just as much. You only feel pain because of their absence because you know them. Had they been aborted, you wouldn't know them and therefore would not feel pain at their absence. "Ok. Fine, a lot can go wrong with a pregnancy, but that's what doctors are for. Doctors are supposed to be saving lives, not ending them through abortion. If the mother is going through complications, then doctors are there to help. A lot of things can wrong in anything you do. "- And DOCTORS save the lives of the mother by giving them an abortion. The mother can still die from pregnancy even with doctors. With an abortion she doesn't even have to risk her life. Painkillers are dangerous too. It is a much better health decision for the mother to get an abortion and put her life and well-being at less risk. The mother should be the priority because she is a person who feels pain while the fetus is not. I look forward to your citations.