Almost All Atmospheric Global Warming is Not Caused by Humans

"Your argument is illogical. Having an atmosphere means that a planet traps heat. Our atmosphere has been with us since the dawn of time and has constantly changed. "An atmosphere does mean that a planet traps heat. Therefore, the atmosphere is the reference frame for measuring atmospheric global warming. "My argument is that currently, humans are causing the change. "Humans are only causing a small part of it. Currently, most of it is caused by humans. But I never specified the present in the resolution. "You do realize were debating climate change and not the climate without an atmosphere. " Do you realize that the resolution does NOT mention climate change? The resolution specifies atmospheric global warming, which means that we must necessarily consider the heat caused by the atmosphere itself. "Your argument that the atmosphere causes warming is illogical since your argument has no timeframe. By arguing that the atmosphere causes warming is like saying that a fire has cooked an egg. The fact is, the egg is already cooked, the Earth already has an established atmosphere. What humans are doing is now burning the egg. "This would only be valid if I'd specified global warming in the present. The resolution does not specify that. "This is what climate change is as you have defined, it is the increase in temperature. " No, I defined global warming that way. Climate change is something else. Climate change is just a non-temporary change in the environment in some way. If the temperature dropped that would be climate change but not global warming. "This debate is not whether or not an atmosphere causes warming or not, it's about whether or not humans are the prime cause to warming. " Actually it's about both. The resolution mentions both atmosphere and humans. It is necessary to use total warming caused by the atmosphere as a reference frame. "I agree with you, the atmosphere warms the earth, but humans are changing that atmosphere to warm the earth even more. Humans are increasing the temperature of the world. " Yes, but by a very small amount compared to the atmosphere as a whole. "The atmosphere on the otherhand is being changed by humans but it in itself is not causing an increase temperatures. " Yes it is. I already demonstrated that. "The atmosphere is the dependant variable currently while humans are the independant variable. "I do not think those terms mean what you think they mean. An independent variable is just the value adjust in a scientific experiment to see what effect it has on something else, which is your dependent variable. "Also, you didn't rebut much of my scientific evidence that says that climate change and warming is caused by humans. " Why would I? I agree with it. The problem is, it's evidence that a change is occurring. Not evidence that most of atmospheric global warming is caused by humans. "also, your evidence is really weak, no offense" If you're going to make this claim, at least back it up. And at the very least, I have salient evidence and you do not. I believe that there is a fundamental misunderstanding here. You are confusing me for a nutter who denies that humans are causing the Earth to warm much faster than it should. But I am no such person. In reality, the wording of the debate resolution sounded similar to the wording of such nutters. Allow me to clarify what it says. The atmosphere has gases that warm up the Earth. Some of that is caused by humans. I argue that most of it is not. Do not be confused though. I agree that the 0.85 degrees Celsius change was caused by human industrialization. I also agree that it occurred over a relatively short period of time, and that this is alarming. I also agree that unless immediate action is taken, the consequences may be severe. But none of this has to do with what the resolution says. The resolutions merely asks whether the majority of what the atmosphere itself is doing is caused by humans. The answer, as I have shown using mathematics and models of planetary heating, is no. You have tried to change this debate into a debate about climate change denial, but that is not what it is actually about. And if you simply assume that you know what the resolution says without actually knowing, that is your fault.