Is it a good thing for same sex marriage to be legal in the US

To Leftist Liberal (you): It is apparent you have no desire to reason or to admit the flaws in any of your arguments, so I will briefly re-iterate a few points in plain English so you can understand. On second thought, I"m not so sure you would understand since you cant differentiate between "affect" and "effect", so let me educate you quickly: to "Affect" means 'to act upon or have an influence on'; to "Effect" means 'to bring about or create'. If you "affect" something, you do to it. If you "effect" something, you cause it to be. (Dictionary.com) You previously said: "How dose same sex marriage effect you personally, what harm does it do to you?" You see, your use of the word "effect" implied that same sex marriage "created me or brought me about", which is clearly a grammatical error on your part (Grade 4 Language Arts) Now, on to the subject at hand, which is not to reason with you (because you are clearly unreasonable), but rather to expose your lies, errors, inconsistencies, double-standards and hypocrisies spread throughout your response. I will try to be concise. Furthermore, I will give you "facts" to support them, because, well, that"s what you asked for; eventhough Leftists like yourself don"t really care what the evidence says when it"s against you. Now get some popcorn, sit down, shutup and enjoy. I know I will. *** Firstly, You said: "but what kind of marriage (same sex or traditional marriage) it is, is on a case by case bases, for some people having a same sex marriage, is what is best for them," ERROR#1: You are equating "kinds" of marriage, with "kinds" of medicine. Yes, marriage is good. Yes, medicine is good. Yes, Ritalin(for ADHD) is a kind of medicine. But NO, gay marriage is NOT a "kind" of marriage; it is the polar opposite. And I"ll prove it. 1) Medicine has historically been defined as a "treatment, cure, remedy, c.1200" (Dictionary.com) 2) Marriage has historically been defined as "a union of a man and woman for life by marriage, a particular matrimonial union; c.1400" (Dictionary.com) Now, you argue that it is good to do away with just the historical/traditional method of marriage and to legalize gay marriage. But, gay marriage is a "kind" of marriage that is a completely OPPOSITE definition to marriage (ie., man and man for life by marriage, or same sex marriage), and therefore cannot be called a "kind" of marriage at all. If you think it can be, than this logically means (by your own previous comparison of "kinds") that it should be okay to ALSO add to the traditional meaning of "medicine" a new, OPPOSITE definition like "infliction, harm, desecration." Thus, if gay marriage is simply another "kind" of marriage, then you might as well say that arsenic can actually be called another "kind" of medicine. But, of course you won"t agree with this, lol. INCONSISTENCY #1: You will compare "kinds" of medicine to "kinds" of marriage, and yet you will change the definition of whichever one suits your own prejudice. Utter nonsense. *** ERROR #2: You claim that a gay community is somehow good for society. HYPOCRISY#1: You said: "as many of my old science teachers would always say, those who add their opinion to science are bias and should be discredited immediately." Pay attention. WASHINGTON, DC, June 6, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) " A new study which analyzed tens of thousands of gay obituaries and compared them with AIDS deaths data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), has shown that the life expectancy for homosexuals is about TWENTY YEARS SHORTER than that of the general public. The study, entitled "Gay obituaries closely track officially reported deaths from AIDS", has been published in Psychological Reports (2005;96:693-697). Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) of all races and ethnicities remain the population most profoundly affected by HIV.In 2010, the estimated number of new HIV infections among MSM was 29,800, a significant 12% increase from the 26,700 new infections among MSM in 2008. Although MSM represent about 4% of the male population in the United States, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of new HIV infections among males and 63% of all new infections. (https://www.aids.gov...) Is this the kind of "homes" you think orphans should grow up in? Sure it is, if you hate children, and dont care if their parents die young and riddled with disease. ...and yet you said: "So why could a gay or lesbian couple not adopt? I can"t think of any reason why not." Well, now I gave you two" *** ERROR #3: You said:not all gays and lesbians hate the other gender, in fact very few of them do. Actually, many do, not "very few"; and it is obvious in the feminist movement. "Lesbian feminism is a cultural movement and critical perspective, most influential in the 1970s and early 1980s...that encourages women to direct their energies toward other women rather than men, and often advocates lesbianism as the logical result of feminism" (Rich, A. (1980). Compulsory Heterosexuality and Lesbian Existence. Signs, 5, 631"660.) *** "DOUBLE STANDARD #1: You ridiculed my use of the "religion card," ...and yet later you affirmed the use of gay couples using the "civil rights card" to be allowed to marry. Need I remind you that the only reason you HAVE Civil Rights is BECAUSE of religion? You condemn historical religious Christianity whilst standing upon the freedom it provided for you; how damn ignorant. It was Christianity that pioneered science, freedom, and the disintegration of slavery in America and Europe, so watch your mouth. (The Crusades were a DEFENSIVE response to 400 years of Muslim tyranny in the East, btw.) *** INCONSISTENCY#2: Your comment about the separation of church and state is totally uneducated: the religious beliefs of Secularism have indeed swept over the West, and yes, of course it affects the state, and everyone in it. Don"t believe me? How come CHURCHES have to still abide by the laws of the STATE?? (ie,perform gay marriages).... Lol, your staunch ignorance amuses me. *** ERROR#4: you said:"the bible"s New Testament was originally written in Greek, where they used different words for kinds of love that the English language just roped in to one.So the version of love that I am using is the in love kind, not the, I"ll treat you right kind of way." Thanks for the insult to "brush up on my Greek", but in fact, the nobles version of "love" found in the Greek NT is the word "agapeo" which means "to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly". The kind of "love" that I think you are referring to is "phileo" which means """spontaneous natural affection, with more feeling than reason" (Elwell, p. 1357). Indeed, "more FEELING than REASON". It is a subjective love. Keep it out of legal matters. *** INCONSISTENCY#3: You reject incest (even if the two involved are "phileo" in love). INCONSISTENCY#4: You reject inbreeding only because of the probability of birth defects, whereas regular breeding has a considerable amount of birth defects as well. "Fact: Birth defects affect 1 in 33 babies every year and cause 1 in 5 infant deaths. For many babies born with a birth defect, there is no family history of the condition." (http://www.cdc.gov...) So, according to these facts, why don"t you also reject regular breeding as well? ...oh wait, you do, because you support gay marriage. *** INCONSISTENCY#5 So, why do you support the legal age of 18? You appealed to the bestiality laws of Ireland, and yet Scotland it is 16? So, who"s to say they are wrong and you are right? Because the LAW says so? But I thought you are for "changing the law" for gays to marry if they are already "in love"? So, why dont you support changing laws so two 17 year olds in love can marry too? Because your arguments have no legs to stand on but what you are told by the media, lol. *** LIE# 2: You said: "About your dad I"m sorry that he lost his job, but that was because his congregation felt that he was no longer preaching what they believed" Firstly, you"re not sorry, or else you wouldn"t support gay marriage. It has happened to dozens of pastors who have lost everything because of the gays pushing their vile perversion in everyones face and demanding they celebrate their sin. And No, actually, it wasn"t "because his congregation felt" anything. It was because of the gay community forcing the law to bend. "Coeur d"Alene, Idaho, city officials have laid down the law to Christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines." (http://conservativebyte.com...#) *** LIE# 3: You said you were raised a baptist. Baloney. If you had half a clue about what a Baptist is, then you would know that it is not what the congregation believes that matters to a good pastor, but what the Bible says; and you would have responded accordingly. But you didn"t. *** INCONSISTENCY# 6: You said: "dogs hump everything, you look up on YouTube, dog humps stuffed toy, that doesn"t mean that the toy and dog must get married." No, but you conveniently condemned my analogy of a dog vs human in being able to give consent, and yet used your own analogy of a lifeless stuffed animal vs a dog. *** ERROR#5: You said, "I mean Canada, Ireland, the Netherlands, others, have legal same sex marriage, and they haven"t legalized incest or bestiality, so why would America have to be the only one to go down that path" Actually, they wouldnt be the first. "You can also do it in chilly Finland or on the beaches of Hawaii as well as in Japan and certain parts of Australia, which also do not prohibit sexual activities between humans and animals." (http://www.health24.com...- Out of room..Ill finish my response in the next round