The Earth is flat

This is a simple debate question (as constructed by you)Your position is that the world is 'not flat'.You introduce high school science to our debate in your second post. I will not get into this, nor will I move our discussion to degree level. You attempt to establish a 'spherical' noun/adjective to the earth's general demeanour without conviction. You speak about spherical gravity when any basic understanding of the earth's composition will dismiss these notions as quaint. Try and get your head around the workings of modern GPS systems and elevation to understand that we cannot ever know enough in these fields. Consider the approaches of Newton and Einstein towards explanations on gravitational phenomena and you may be less willing to introduce simplistic notions of this everday characteristic of Earth into your debate strategies in future. Consider the concept of a geoid model of earth elevation if you like. What the polished sphere mentioned in your post has to do with our discussion about the Earth's 'not flatness' is beyond me?Let's get back to the Basics that were introduced by you.Your :DefinitionsEarth:the planet on which we liveFlat:having a smooth, level, or even surface : not having curves or bumps--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------We will not differentiate between components of 'Earth' for this debate. We will allow the steam locomotive merge with the smoke. I will not mention oceans or atmosphere. I will use your phrase 'Earth' ie the planet on which we live.Your assertion that the earth is 'not flat ' rests on the earth having a 'non smooth', 'not level', and uneven surface. What tolerances would you apply to this adjectival approach to science. Surely, you will not become mathematical in our examination of this three dimensional celestial entity. Surely you will not attempt to approximate this 'thing' with conceptual logarithms. You are correct in this. Let's finish as we started here, ie within a real discussion.A question for you: Is the Earth as 'flat as a pancake'? I think it is.If there are crumbs on a table, is it still flat?If there is an indentation in the table due to negligence, then is it still flat. What are your tolerances in this?Is Estonia flat? I think it is, and I will explain why. I have been to Estonia, it is a relatively small European country that is criss-crossed by long straight roads.Area of Estonia : 45,339 Km squaredSuur Munamägi (in translation "Big Egg Mountain") is the highest peak in Estonia (and the Baltic states), reaching 318 metres (1,043 ft) above sea levelNow I want you to try and forget all the topographical map presentations that you have ever seen and I want you to do some maths for me. Let's make a scale model of Estonia in a small car port that is 10M squared in area. I want to place this 'Big Egg Mountain' thing on my map in accurate 3D scale. How high will it be on the map? You tell me. Now make a scale model of Estonia on a standard NFL pitch. Would a player trip on this 'Big Egg' or would the map appear as a level flat playing field. You could place a scale model of the earth's surface area into the same car port. What height do you imagine that MT Everest would achieve if accurately represented to scale on this map. Would it bust your car sump. Would it burst your tyre, like a nail. Would it be almost/totally indescernable when compared to the flat car port. You have work to do here. I know the answer. Again I must ask what your tolerances are when using the noun/adjective 'flat. You tell me.The Baltic sea is 'flat'.Estonia is flat.The Earth is flat.To think otherwise within this simple debate is to be 'incorrect' ie not correct.Thanks ( I do expect you to do the Maths)