The Microsoft Zune HD is better than the comparative Apple Ipod Touch

::Introduction:: Again, I thank Con for continuing this debate. While I do not agree that my tone was any more arrogant or rude than my opponent, I will make an attempt to negate that problem. ::Defence:: "2) Your last point... ...with wireless on? No." Please let me expand on this briefly. It is in the best interest of both companies to test the battery feature with the wireless option turned off to save power. Battery life is extended, and the companies can post better battery life times. Neither company would hurt themselves by testing with wireless enabled. I hope this logic makes sense. As for the difference it makes, it is a 9.09% difference. While small, this is still a noticeable difference. " the average user... ... applied in context." Yes, but remember the point of the debate. Since the zune has a "better" battery life, it is fair to use as an argument that the Zune HD is "better". "clearly there is... ...dissproving your point". Again, remember the point of the debate. However small, it can still be used as evidence. "4)"...not aesthetically... ...of the ipod touch." I call the ipod touch clunky because of its increased weight, height, and width [see previous post]. The Zune HD is thin, light, and rests nicely in my hand. "the feature is... headphones and speakers." I would like to remind you that we are discussing the current status of the devices. As for the use of bluetooth for headphones, I will give you that one. "Next i would... ...larger clearer display". Pixel size for both devices can be found here [1]. I agree that the wider display is more ideal for apps and browsing, but many, including myself, prefer the common 16:9 widescreen display, especially when watching movies. The width has not been a problem for me. "I would also... ...choosing either device." I agree. But it has been helpful on road trips, as it connects to the screen in my truck. "In regards to... ...require more context". Yes, but again, it is still evidence. "I would now... ...software based personalization". In regards to music, the zune marketplace and amazon.com often have the same songs for 25 cents less. As for video, any video bought through the marketplace can be watched on your zune, computer, and xbox. As for the apps, apple has a good thing going and this may be the only solid evidence against the zune, which has few apps, with more coming. ::Arguments:: As a last stance, here are my concluding thoughts. The Zune HD is/has 1. $10 cheaper 2. nvidea graphics 3. 720p hd output 4. hd radio... See More 5. wireless sync 6. hd radio 7. buy from fm 8. 3 extra hours battery 9. 7x more color options 10. option for zune pass 11. xbox live integration 12. weights almost half as much 13. smaller height and width 14. can play wmv. files and wma. audio (two standard, common, and efficient file types) 15. faster touch response 16. tattoo options 17. buy music wirelessly 18. automatically syncs band photos 19. shop online from the player for apps, videos, music 20. can show now playing, pins, history, and new items on the home page 21. 3-D animation when navigating and changing volume 22. Automatically shows slideshow of band photos and words when a song is played while connected to power ::Conclusion:: The Zune HD has many important features that the Ipod Touch lacks. Con has yet to post more references than a vague link to the apple website. If you would like me to provide a reference for anything that does not have one, feel free to message me or on this debate. To leave off on a good note, both players have options that compliment the other. I am excited to see what developments will be made to both in the future. Vote Pro. ::References:: [1] http://www.zunescene.com...