Is it a good thing for same sex marriage to be legal in the US

To nate_sk: I would like to give you some pointers for future debates, that you may have against me or anyone ells for that matter. "Debating pointer 1: Calm down, as Plexon_Warrior (a guy on your side of the debate) said to you on the opinion question were I found out that you aren"t so fond of the LGBT community, "Calm down. I agree with you, but God didn't give us the right to judge them. He actually commanded us to love them... Not in a sexual way, but you know what I mean." So don"t let your anger with as you said about them and their rainbow symbol, "GOD MADE THE RAINBOW AND YOU VILE CREATURES HAVE NO RIGHT TO PERVERT IT." to make you not think clearly in your wish to prove that they are in the wrong, instead of you. "Debating pointer 2: Research your opponent, before you make clams that they can easily disprove and make you look foolish, even though your, as I said before, a smart guy who"s pretty good at debating. An example of you making this mistake is just this last round, when you called me Leftist Liberal, if you would have checked my profile you would see that I am an Independent. (who actually thinks that the whole left, right party system is obsolete, and now is a hindrance to our politics) "Debating Pointer 5: state your sources, If you haven"t noticed, I had been putting down a few sources throughout the debate, I would only use a few of them so that you wouldn"t catch on and start doing it yourself, which allowed me to have more compelling arguments, between rounds 2 and 3, before I had to ask you to show any proof. "Debating Pointer 6: this goes hand in hand with 2, but in this case you couldn"t have read, that I used to go to Spring Creek Baptist Church in Milwaukee Wisconsin during my earlier years every Sunday morning and every Wednesday night. (so yes I was a Baptist) I think that I have covered most of my suggestions for you and hope that you will recognize that they weren"t meant to be insulting, but is just some wisdom that I am trying to pass along to you, Maybe now that we both know a little about each other, and see that there is more than just our own view, on the subject, we can shake hands and be friends, even if we don"t agree on some things, like I"m Andy Griffith and your Barney Fife (from the Andy Griffith Show) So can you as a anti same sex marriage activist accept my hand of friendship, as a pro same sex marriage activist, so that we can be friends after this debate is all said and done? Back to the debate. Now to your argument about how if you changed the definition of marriage, to except same sex marriage, you are making it to where you are making the definition to mean the opposite, I would argue that according to Thesaurus.com antonyms (or for clarity the opposite of what the word means) for the word marriage are antagonism, disunion, divorce, and separation. So nope, nothing to imply that by adding the words same sex before it would mean that you got anything but a different kind of marriage. Now I will give you that the probability of a homosexual contracting aids is more likely, but it is like other STDs where you can be tested and can where protection to protect your partner. As for the homosexual"s shorter life expectancy, I say, yes, but according to madamenoire.com/.../study-black-life-expectancy African Americans have nearly a decade less lifetime expectancy then whites. So by your logic African Americans, because of their shorter lifetime expectancy statistically, they shouldn"t be allowed to adopt either, If this is the case (and I doubt that it is) then the list of people who are eligible to adopt kids is getting smaller and smaller, while the list of kids in the child care system is getting larger and larger, especially if we take your idea that big reason for marriage is to get more people having kids. So I can hardly think of how a home with responsible homosexuals who protect themselves, when lovemaking like any other sexually active couple who don"t want to contract any of the numerous STDs out there, can"t be able to raise a child. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women. You can"t judge them by one movement, just as you can"t judge Christians, by the many more movements that have had more catastrophic consequences, such as the ongoing KKK, LRA, anyone who beats up the Jewish for "killing Jesus" As for the religious and civil rights cards, I do criticize anyone who uses religion as an excuse to hate others, or to use violence, I disapprove of extremists, for religion, as well as, people who try to use civil rights as an excuse to get violent. The reason why I said that the legal age for marriage should be 18 is because that is the age when (in the US) you are considered a legal adult who is responsible for yourself, so if you want to change that law, it is up to you, but that is for a different debate at a different time. (And your supposed inconsistency# 5 didn"t make any sense, where did the bestiality part come in. Few thousand vs. 4 Mill As a side note, a site that has stories with the titles Deez Nuts Will Have to Pull Out of Presidential Race, and save the confederate flag, might not be the best one to use) Bestiality, Lack of laws against it is largely presumed to be due to it being uncommon, or a taboo subject most of society prefers to not think about. (rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bestiality) I will bring up some facts of my own. Adoption: For more proof on why gay/lesbian couples should be allowed to marry just in the category of the need for more married couples to be there to raise adopted children in a better home, consider the following approximately 400,540 children in foster care on September 30, 2011. www.acf.hhs.gov/.../foster-care...Youth in Transition: this number has been rising, and as I mentioned before, we need more married couples to adopt, and we are not currently hitting or criteria, and because of this, each year, an estimated 20,000 young people "age out" of the U.S. foster care system. Many are only 18 years old and still need support and services. Several foster care alumni studies show that without a lifelong connection to a caring adult, these older youth are often left vulnerable to a host of adverse situations: www.unmarried.org/parents-children/adoption And there are always more on the way to being put into the system by the day Currently, about half (51%) of the 6.6 million pregnancies in the United States each year (3.4 million) are unintended-www.guttmacher.org/.../FB-Unintended-Pregnancy Countless unmarried partners (same-sex or different-sex) are co-parenting a child or children, but frequently only one partner has a legal relationship to the child(ren). In many cases it would benefit the child(ren) to have a legal relationship to both parents. Many, but not all, states allow "co-parent adoptions" or "second parent adoptions," which create a second legal parent-child relationship for these families. Qualified, screened single and LGBT people can be excellent parents. Having a single or LGBT parent could be in an individual child"s best interest, for a number of reasons. www.unmarried.org/parents-children/adoption Economy: Same sex marriage can actually help improve the economy" this is a report by The Huffington Post Posted: 05/15/2013 (so this was written before the law was passed in all 50 states that"s why it is worded as will be instead of is) It would boost tax revenues: Legalizing same-sex marriage would bring in between $20 million and $40 million more per year in taxes, according to a December paper from University of Michigan economist Adam Stevenson. It helped NYC's economy: In the first year that gay marriage was legal in New York City, the city reaped $259 million, thanks to license fees and wedding-related spending, according to CNNMoney. It would alleviate payroll headaches for many businesses: According to PBS, many companies argue that by not legalizing same-sex marriage, the U.S. is hindering their competitiveness by creating more administrative hurdles. For example, states where same-sex marriage isn't legal have different tax laws for same-sex versus opposite-sex couples. It can boost struggling state economies: If California were to legalize same-sex marriage, it would generate $123 million for the state economy during the first three years same-sex marriage is legal, according to a 2005 Stanford study cited by the Fiscal Times. And the state could certainly use the money; California has been mired in a budget crisis for years. In Massachusetts, legalizing same-sex marriage has generated an estimated $111 million over the first five years same-sex marriage was legal, according to CNNMoney. Lots of major corporations think it's a good idea: More than 60 companies, including Apple, Nike and Morgan Stanley, signed onto a brief submitted to the Supreme Court supporting same-sex marriage in February, according to Fortune. The companies argued that keeping same-sex marriage illegal made it difficult for them to recruit and hire top applicants. One major executive at Goldman Sachs almost considered leaving the country because states' differing same-sex marriage laws put his partner's student visa in jeopardy after they married. Now these sources and videos support my argument that gay marriage should be legalized: 1.www.nytimes.com/.../obama-says-same-sex-marriage-should-be-legal.html 2.Go to you tube and look up "get educated about homosexuality", there you"ll find an educational cartoon, that will cover some of the points in more scientific ways then I can. 3.The Huffington post. 4.Gay Marriage Legalized In All 50 States | Historic Expansion Of Freedom: The Young Turks 5.YouTube from here on out, not really important to the debate, but we can all laugh at CNN 6.Jon Stewart Tackles the "Anti-Gay Cray Cray" in the Supreme Court, YouTube 7. June Is A Lovely Time For A Wedding The Late Show with Stephen Colbert 8.Hear is someone who "agrees" with you STEPHEN COLBERT IS APOPLECTIC THAT GAY MARRIAGE HAS COME TO THE PLACE HE CARES ABOUT THE MOST: VIDEO 9.Vote no to the gay, Facts 10.The ultimate anti-gay marriage ad. 1.So for my first round of questions, I asked, What about people who have a sex change operation done on them, do they get to be with people of the gender that they used to be a part of? Or do they have to be with the gender that they are now? Still making them homosexuals. To your credit you did answer it, but you never answered the question clearly, you answered that God makes you in the womb, but you never answered the question of whether or not the person who got their gender changed, should be allowed to be with the person of the gender that they used to be or aloud to be with the people of the gender that they are now? 2.Same sex marriage is legal in a few countries, and nothing bad has happened in any of them, what is the difference between the US and them that will make it to where our nation will be hurt by this decision while they have not? To be fair you did answer this one, but as I said, it was more of a so few people do it, so why even bother to take the time to illegalize it. So I still think that my question stands. 3.Is it constitutional to not allow people of the same gender not to marry, while they have the majority vote, the civil rights card, and the go ahead from a supreme court ruling? 4.In some of the Middle East countries, (with violent extremist controlling the countries) they have been accused by the UN, of forcing homosexuals into pits then toppling walls on them. (mass executions) Do you agree with these actions, and if not what would your solution to the "gay problem" be? I mean it is in Leviticus 20:13 5.I don"t know if you have a kid or not, but if you do, and he/she came to you and told you that they are homosexual what would be your reaction? 6.Do you believe that Jesus hated homosexuals and would call them vile creatures? 7.Be honest, what did you think of those videos that I recommended? Thanks for the debate (sorry if it looks bad and didn"t cover all the part"s ran out of room.