State education is indoctrination

Where to begin (fyi, I post like I type, so it may help if you read it as if you were listening). Let's start with some basic definitions. "Indoctrination" - 1 : to instruct especially in fundamentals or rudiments : to teach 2 : to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle. Given the intense words that Pro has chosen to use, I feel safe that he is referring to the #2 definition rather then the #1. So that is the one I will be fighting "to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle." There are many points in his opening post, so I will only address the most blatant ones at first until some sources are presented. 1) "The "public education system" as the common culture of today's society claim that state education is an ideal method of educating the young." I am unaware of anyone saying that our current public education system is the "ideal" (meaning conforming to an ultimate standard of perfection or excellence) since that would imply that there is no need to improve upon it. Yet millions upon millions of dollars as well as thousands of work hours are used to improve it each and every year. While it is not the perfect system, it is a system that is designed to teach everyone. While private schools get to pick and choose their students, public schools is left picking up the rest. So needless to say, one would expect different results as for grades and for cost. I mean, if you were to be playing dodge ball, and Team A got all the first picks, 1-10 and Team B got the rest 11 - 20, it wouldn't be hard to see who had the edge, yet that would not be an accurate reflection on the coaches. While some conclusion could be made, it is not an end all comparison that can not be taken without a grain of salt. 2) "...show a darker side of the state education system." I fail to see how the lighting in a school building points towards brainwashing students. In all fairness, schools should use less lighting to save electricity to save tax payers' money, so long as the low amount of light does not negatively effect the quality of the education. 3) "The purpose of education after we get passed of all cultural dogma and state propaganda was not to educate but to make you into another tool..." I find this to be an odd statement. While I've heard things like, school doesn't teach anything we need for the work force and like such, but never that it tries to teach us to become a "tool." I can only speak for the 10 schools that I've attended (3 elementary, 3 middle, 1 high, and 3 colleges), but none of them taught me how to do what I'm doing now, tech support for Apple. I actually looked through the college course catalog and found nothing in the credit classes for working in a call center (did find 1 in the non-credit though). I also did not find anything in the high school class catalog for the school that I went to in regards to call centers, or sales. Though there was marketing and managing, but both of those were electives and purely optional. Though I will take the time to sit in on a class or two to see if they are trying to sneak the message into biology class or french class. 4) "...feed lies..." Cheap pizza and stale fries, while not the healthiest of lunches, are not lies although they may not be fully open about some of the ingredients (http://www.cracked.com... *warning strong language inside*). 5) "Public education does not make for a intelligent young who are ready to help and improve society but leads depression mental distress anxiety and this can lead to much negative behavior in the future." I would have to disagree with this. In studies regarding depression in school aged kids, show that school is actually a small factor (while it is still a factor, family, finances, and friends, or lack there of are much larger indicators) [1][2][3]. And with anxiety, private schools are actually more stressful then public ones [4]. I will leave it at this for now and await your side of things. [1] http://www.extension.umn.edu... [2] http://www.uhs.berkeley.edu... [3] http://www.brains.org... [4] http://privateschool.about.com...