UTW Exhibition Match

ESTABLISHMENT ====== Part 1: SEPHIROTH: I still contend that Sora should be able to counter any assault Sephiroth makes. Incidentally, this is EVEN IF my opponent is correct regarding his rendering of Sora in his first round. That said, it has come to my attention that my opponent has greatly exaggerated the One Winged Angel. A) Sephiroth's final limit break is not literal. First, I would ask that readers take a gander at my first video to the right to see Sephiroth's final limit break in action: http://www.youtube.com... As my opponent himself states in the comment section, he has seen Sephiroth do this attack three times during an actual battle. However, if Sephiroth were to have destroyed the solar system, there is no way we should be seeing the solar system back in it's former condition directly afterwords. Furthermore, this source indicates that the attack deals 15/16 of each party members max HP: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com... Given that the attack itself cannot KO anyone (regardless at what level they are at) and that we see the same animaton reused throughout the battle, it is rather clear that Sephiroth isn't literally moving across the solar system and destroying it. Rather, all of this is more likely his mastery over concocting illusions at work: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com... B) Sephiroth's dexterity (speed) is officially listed here at 160: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com... .This is a speed which any member in the party can potentially outclass with enough leveling up. Since Cloud himself can do this, my opponent would have to agree that Cloud was as fast or faster than Sephiroth. In doing this though, my opponent is at a disadvantage (more on this later). C) As for Sephiroth's arrogance excusing his inability to best Cloud and company, this would be the equivalent to an ant somehow besting a mountain lion given the scale of power my opponent claims Sephiroth is capable of. In short, it's pretty unlikely. PART 2: SENTRY Fine. PART 3: SORA Given space constraints, I'm going to concede to the evidence I have provided as not being sufficient to prove that Sora can function at light speed. As far as beating Sephiroth goes: Sephiroth never states Cloud is stronger than Sora. He says only Cloud can eliminate him. In this game, Sephiroth is regarded as being the darkness of Cloud and that Cloud need to eliminate him with the light (sounds silly, but I don't write this stuff). We've actually seen Sora best Cloud and Squall at the same time (which we can see in the comment setion vid). Thus, Sora > Cloud > Sephy. Lastly,we're not talking about Sora at his weakest (when he usually loses to Sephy); Sora is at his best. PART 4: REVAN My opponent is being rather mischievous. He refers to a previous debate of mine in which he claims I mislead the audience with Revan's thought bomb, since the link he provides indicates that it only works on force wielders. He follows by pointing out that the same is true for the technique known as force sense. However, there are already two problems here. 1) In the previous debate, I devised a method at which a member of my team would become force sensitive, hence allowing the thought bomb to work. 2) My opponent provides no link regarding "force sense", which is what my actual argument in THIS DEBATE consist of. Do not be fooled by CON's attempts to deceive you! Here is the actual link regarding force sense: http://starwars.wikia.com... Quote: "Jedi could sense the location of hidden beings or enemies from a distance, and through barriers, allowing them to find, engage or avoid a being." As for force choke, we could very well apply my opponent's argument to many particular instances of the game. For example, why didn't Revan ever simply use the thought bomb technique to wipe out every force user in the vicinity? The answer is that the game would be too easy, hence the creators limit his intelligence to not having the creativity to use his powers in such a manner. As for it being Darth Vader's ability, we must keep in mind that I'm in control of Revan and that I know that force choking can be done from a distance if the conditions I discussed were me. Hence, he'd be able to do it in spite of us only having seen Vader do this. PART 5: Doomsday What my opponent forgets to point out is that Superman is moving that fast WHILE being encumbered by two black holes once. We're talking about celestial forces which are supposed to be able to pull in any form of matter and energy. In other words, it'd be like seeing a car speed down the highway at 120 miles per hour in spite of hauling several aircraft carriers on top of it. Just imagine how fast it'd be capable of moving without such restrictions. PART 6: Batman. CON is mistaken. The source does not state ONLY for galactic transportion. It states what it's CAPABLE of doing (in other words, what it maxes out at). If it can go from one galaxy to another, there's no reason it should not be able to move a couple of miles. RE: Negative one Second ======= Immediately, I cannot help but point out that this is in clear violation of the rules. Both my opponent and I agreed to no preparation time. Preparation time is at any point before the battle begins. Negative one second is clearly an example of this. Either that or Senry is time traveling, which is also against the rules. That said, we've seen Superman move fast enough to reverse time in the first Superman film when he wanted to insure that Lois Lane wasn't killed. Since Doomsday is by all means his equal, he should be well capable of matching Sentry at the speed my opponent proposes even if such action were not against the rules. In essence, I'm merely using Doomsday (at this point in the battle) as Sentry repellent should he decide to attempt a blitz of any form. Pico-seconds ========== Sephiroth cannot protect Black Alice from force choke as force choking is a technique that targets one internally. Also, unless my opponent concedes to Cloud and Sora being this fast, Sephy won't be aware of anything at this point in the battle. As for Ichigo immediately entering Soul form, he would still be in his human state at that point. Revan could just as easily force choke snipe him before going after Black Alice (since my opponent doesn't yet seem to be making use of the gal). Even if Ichigo somehow succeeded, this wouldn't render him invisible and undetectable as force sense enables force wielders to detect all forms of life (as indicated on the page I linked to) and such a restriction only applies to Bleach universe. Ghost can and have been detected by normal human beings in Star Wars (Obi wan Kenobi, yoda, and Vader are all detected at the end of Return of the Jedi), DC (particular in the River of Styxx) and Marvel Comic books (in whatever the equivalent to the River of Styxx is for Norse god matters (there is a word better than "matters", but I cannot think of it at the moment As for spiritual pressure, Tite Kubo (the author of Bleach) retconned the potency of this plot device quite some time ago as we see a human with hardly any spiritual energy standing around beings of mass spiritual pressure here (the guy in the bottom right panel): http://www.onemanga.com... (which takes place long after PRO's videos). Also, I would like to see PRO's evidence that Ichigo can move faster than light. A second ====== Black Alice is already killed by a force speed/force sensed force choking Revan, so this doesn't happen. Sentry is still having trouble with Doomsday. Sora proceeds to beat the crap out of Sephiroth as he has done in the video. If he has trouble, he can at very least hold him off until Sentry is beaten in the manner I listed in R1. The remainder of the battle goes exactly as played out in R1