BeIR/webis-touche2020 huggingface dataset:
We should shame fat people.

The phrase "Fat shaming" by definition: "The action or practice of humiliating someone judged to be fat or overweight by making mocking or critical comments about their size" https://en.oxforddictionaries.com... Common definition: An act of bullying, singling out, discriminating, or making fun of a fat person. https://www.psychologytoday.com... The phrase "Tough love" by definition: "love or concern that is expressed in a strict way especially to make someone behave responsibly" http://www.merriam-webster.com... As anyone can clearly see, the two most common definitions for the phrase "fat shaming" are incompatible with the definition of the phrase "tough love". "Humiliating", "mocking", "bullying", "discriminating" are malicious terms incompatible with "love" even when "expressed in a strict way". My opponent claims "We should shame fat people" but his proposed plans rely on the definition of "tough love"and not "fat shaming". He has still neglected to apply the accurate definition of the phrases ( his definition of the individual terms in the phrase is insignificant as in this case the phrase "fat shaming' is more than the sum of its parts ) in his arguments and has neglected to respond to my contention that an individual shaming (using the definition of fat shaming) an obese person would likely distance preexisting relationships and likely cause outright resentment, neither of which would be beneficial to society of either individual. It is clear that we are not in agreement with our key terms and as a result have begun to argue about different things. My opponent advocates for "tough love" but calls it something else. Since I agree with a "tough love" approach, but that is not the stated nature of the debate, I must end my participation in this debate with a concise statement about the perceived nature of the debate and my claim. Regardless of the intention of my opponent, his terminology begets the perception that he is advocating for "fat shaming" as a motivational method to decrease the rate of obesity in a given society. Given the provided definition of fat shaming and its negative historical reactions, I disagree with this claim but agree with his "tough love" proposals which I insist are fundamentally different than "fat shaming" by definition. Because the structure of this debate demands that pro defend the original claim "We should shame fat people" and he has not done this under the definition of "fat shaming", I can not, and voters should not, give merit to his arguments in the context of the topic of this debate, even if a voter were to agree with the examples provided.
We should shame fat people.

My opponent and I agree that obesity is a problem and should be addressed. He then claims that we disagree on how it should be addressed, but then he outlines a solutions that is almost perfectly in line with my suggestion in round 1. My opponent states "If you are talking 'fat' then it must always come from a good place. You are talking about it because you care". This is very similar to my statement "and treated (medically speaking) with compassion and respect". The similarity comes from the words "care" and "compassion". We both agree, it seems, that we should try to show children who are at risk of becoming obese and those who are obese ways to change their lives in a compassionate, caring way. This seems contradictory to idea of "fat shaming" which is defined as "An act of bullying, singling out, discriminating, or making fun of a fat person". This definition is also not in line with my opponents "ideas" as his ideas are largely stemming for feelings of genuine concern for the obese while "fat shaming" is fundamentally malicious. I believe my opponent meant to say "we should use tough LOVE on fat people to encourage them into healthy habits" instead of his original contention which has very little room for the compassion he claimed he had for the obese. I would like to continue to contend that what I have defined as fat shaming is detrimental to society and is not desirable. If this what my opponent meant then I will continue the argument. If my opponent did not mean "fat shaming" as it is defined then I would like to extend the option of an agreed upon tie since I only agreed to this debate under the premise that my opponent meant fat shaming as "An act of bullying, singling out, discriminating, or making fun of a fat person".
Resolved: That, on balance, social networking Web Sites have a positive impact on the United States.

I would first like to address the fact about how you can use AIM or e-mail. Just because it isn't a Social networking website, doesn't mean there won't be cyber-bullying and harsh words. There will always be these words flying around no matter what. Next what I was trying to get across to my opponent was that just because someone got killed by a gun are we going to ban it. No we haven't yet and so why do it with something that causes little deaths when compared to tobacco which we also haven't banned even though we see a significant increase in teen and adult life alike. Also you say "teenagers are not at the age to determine who my friends are". This may be very true but I can tell that if someone is making fun of me that they are not my friend. You stated that why use the websites of the future when death comes with it. Death Came with nuclear weapons but we continue to research them and have them stockpiled. You also stated that I did not argue the impact. I will not write any new information because my opponent can not refute these items. I will say that there is a privacy statement that websites should have you look over. If there is not one then you shouldn't join. These sites leave you to your business. They won't use anything against you. Also to get that information you would have to hack into a lot of security and that is a crime. Therefore I have refuted my opponent and one of the answers actually helped my case because it proved that words can be exchanged everywhere and anywhere. Therefore I urge you to vote in affirmation of the resolution. Thank you
Resolved: That, on balance, social networking Web Sites have a positive impact on the United States.

You stated: "social networking websites are meant to increase communication" Although the original intentions may have been good, now they no longer increase communication in a good way. You stated: "these sites increase creativity" However, not all of the sites give you the power to use the layout of your choice. You stated: "It could be private or public" Although a person's profile may be private, whatever you put on the internet will stay there forever. That has a negative impact on the United States because it undermines the accomplishments that people have made over the years. For instance, say a kid was trying to run for president. At that time, all of his/her confidential files become a "free for all. " If he/she had made any sort of comment while on a social networking website, that could jeopardize their political career. You stated: "Your friends aren't going to try and lower your self esteem or push you to the brink of suicide and if they do then you need to reconsider if they are really your friends. " However, teenagers, the main users of social networking web sites, are not at the age where they can truly determine who their friends are. Honestly, the rebuttals that you presented make no sense. Because I stated "So many teenagers and adults have lost their lives as a result of social networking web sites. " You stated "Ok to start off I do believe that the amount of deaths isn't even close to the amount of deaths that we face because of other alternatives" The fact that people die other ways, does not mean that many lives have been lost at the hand of social networking websites. Because I stated "Because of a website, mothers have had to bury their children" You stated "mothers have had to bury their children, but mothers have other reasons to bury their children. " Yes, that may be true, but that does no change the fact that children have died because of social networking sites. You stated "Without this form of communication we are entering the future. These websites are the future so why run from the future? " But, not only are we not running from the future, as you so eloquently stated, but we have already seen that success comes without social networking websites, and the death that comes with it, so why bother? You stated "Also many children and teenagers are able to express themselves clearly so why is it that you take away their only form of expressing themselves? " But, teenagers have so many other ways of expressing themselves, email/AIM (which are not social networking websites,) by phone (via text/voice/picture messaging and simply calling. ) So, what was your point again? I stand "Resolved: That, on balance, social networking Web Sites have a NEGATIVE impact on the United States. " You have failed to actually argue on the impact that the social networking Web Sites have on the United States.
Resolved: That, on balance, social networking Web Sites have a positive impact on the United States.

Ok to start off I do believe that the amount of deaths isn't even close to the amount of deaths that we face because of other alternatives. People are killed everyday because of guns, should we ban guns. People in schools commit suicide every day, so should we ban talking in schools. Just because there is an exchange of words on this website don't mean it doesn't happen in other places. The only point that I have seen been state is the emotional harm, emotional harm can be found anywhere. We can't just ban something because it is supposedly bad. You stated tha6t mothers have had to bury their children, but mothers have other reasons to bury their children. People say things at school, should mothers home school their kids. So why are we going to deprive the children that are responsible and have self esteem enough to not use these websites. Why ban something that is replicated more in other places. Thank you Now here is my question. Without this form of communication we are entering the future. these websites are the future so why run from the future? Also many children and teenagers are able to express themselves clearly so why is it that you take away their only form of expressing themselves?
Resolved: That, on balance, social networking Web Sites have a positive impact on the United States.

This is following PF rules - Increases physical harm So many teenagers and adults have lost their lives as a result of social networking web sites. Because of a website, mothers have had to bury their children. It does not benefit our society. -Increases emotional harm People say a lot of irresponsible things while online. It results in unneeded and unwanted feelings that get hurt. Most of the users of social networking websites are teenagers. At that age, they are still kids, therefore, unable to determine who their true friends are. As a result, they are linked to the wrong people. So, reconsidering who their friends are would not actually help them. Because the resolution states "That, on balance" that means that the bad has to outweigh the good, or vice versa in order to win the debate. That being said, staying in contact with friends, and so many people dying cannot compare to each other. Thus, I stand Resolved: That, on balance, social networking Web Sites have a negative impact on the United States.
Resolved: That, on balance, social networking Web Sites have a positive impact on the United States.

thank you and good luck Now to begin, social networking websites are meant to increase communication. When you use a system such as that you are accepting terms of agreement. These terms cover a whole basis of rules and liabilities. I have recently moved a great distance and these sites such as myspace have helped me keep in contact with my old friends and my new ones. Some of these are even a stress reliever for most kids. Kids will come home and go on and talk with there friends for hours and if they had a bad day, this may just help them with that. Also these sites increase creativity, basically by creating your own profile you are making your own PERSONAL site. It could be private or public. Now about privacy. Not everyone can get into your account if you don't want certain people to get in your account then you put it on private. Your friends aren't going to try and lower your self esteem or push you to the brink of suicide and if they do then you need to reconsider if they are really your friends.
Rap Battle Tourney Round 1: MassiveDump vs. Rational_Thinker9119

If he got the pipe from lots of guys he wouldn't be traumatized He'd make his "display pic face" 'cause he just got sodomized You claim you bang girls? It's to cover up your loss of pride But nobody believes you like the news that Osama died I'm a spectacle of sorts, you're a jester in the courts And so gay you watch d*cks and fill out testicle reports I'm here to take your money 'til your decimals distort You try to lure kids in the woods like "lets go build a fort!" This ginger snaps when he don't get fountain soda He's depressed, you will see him on the couch with Oprah "Today's show: the ugly kid from South Dakota Who likes to spread jizz between his mouth and choda"It is odd that he mentions some random rhymezone site When he's the only one who knows about it, with eyes closed tightThis blood sucking ginger vampire steals rhymes all nightSo it would be a lie if MassiveDump says "I don't bite"It is ironic, the debate names him the The Instigater But he's so much of a wimp he couldn't rip through paper With a chick he can't stimulate her Go figure.. He plays with figures, and has the figure of a figure skater I'm as cold as a refrigerator but hot like an incubator He don't want to win, as he just wants to get fisted later He requests specific brands of c*ck, especially prison flavor but claims he's not gay like "I'm just handlin' business player".I can rhyme "plummet" with "stomach" and you're still mad weakYou're a ginger anyway, shut up when a brown haired man speaksYou look like a male Michelle Flaherty, nothing but a band geekMassiveDump even took a tuba up the rear last weekMD probably likes a knife to spill, while I snipe to killThis battle is his death sentence, I just made him write the willShe's ugly, but I was going to hit up his girlfriend's vagina still'Till I found out it was more dead than zombies from Silent HillThis weirdo wants to get sprayed on the wall like hall graffitiI'll beat up your bro, gramps, then tell your pops to see meIf you ever made a rap album I would toss the CDHow is Ronald Weasley talkin' greasy? You lost this easy!
Rap Battle Tourney Round 1: MassiveDump vs. Rational_Thinker9119

Wow RT I must admit,That rap was really top shelf! No I'm kidding that was sh!t,And you should prob'ly kill yourself,No, on second thought just quit, Because you're broke beyond help,But wait, I think you're Inuit,So just go run to your elf,But for real, You Canadians,Can get just so damn cocky,But we homo sapiens,Do better things than hockey, Thanks for noticin' I'm thin,But dude you sure ain't Rocky,Hey, try jogging now and then,You're looking kind of stocky, (Eh?)Do plummet and stomach rhyme,Or're you just tryin' to bomb, Thinker, maybe next time,Don't use Rhymezone dot com, Did I call you on your crime?You'd best go cry to your mom,'Cause my material is mine,And it is worth a salaam,I've just gone international,And you've just gone to the stinker,You think you're Rational,More like a wishful thinker,You know what, at least I'm funny,Unlike people I know,My repuation makes me money,Oh, wassup, John Doe?You're an old show,You know, That's how life'll go,Catch RT by the toe,If he hollers, he's slow,You call yourself a rapper?Man, you're making me sick.You're gonna end up on the crapper,Suckin' Massive Dick, Not like you're new to that sh!t,But damn, at least pretend,Okay, man don't flip a t!t,It's your fault you're a dead end, I still got popularity,And signature hilarity,And *whoop* here comes the clarity:You're not really a rarity.I'm done :3
Rap Battle Tourney Round 1: MassiveDump vs. Rational_Thinker9119

Does DDO really think he is the best to battle me?He only mentions "a flame" to describe his sexualityor his red hair, in the voting section he'll be dead thereThis debate? He shouldn't have accepted like a friend's dareYour mom looks ugly like she pissed off a bad beautician she met your father and became your dad's assistantThey produced an ugly red head with damaged visionAnd now you have no "soul" like a white Jazz musician I came here to put and end to MassiveDumpGirls call him a one minute man, a bastard chump He tries to doggy style but can't smash the rumpor last long, he finishes from the fastest pumpEven he knows this is the start to a grueling fateI'll bruise his face quicker than I chew threw steakI don't even know why I accepted this dude's debateHey, "Angry Ginger Kid", did you lose some weight?If he ever did comedy for crowds? They would probably heckleMassiveDump gets lost in my eyes, I get lost in his frecklesI bet his uncle used to break him until the bed was damagedNow you have no "soul", the Grim Reaper leaves empty handedThis debate will leave them shocked like an electric eelHis philosophy is "screw a job, it's best to steal!"This is why rapes girls when he can't get a feelPlus he has the sex appeal of a severed heel MassiveDump don't want beef or to get wildHe's just angry being the red headed stepchildAfter this debate, I bet his stock's gonna plummetSon, your mom should have got socked in the stomachEver since he was born this guy was a loserHe would cry because people wished he'd die in a sewerHe talks about his mom but never rightfully knew herThat's why his name's "MassiveDump", his life is a pooperHe cannot come up with his own rhymes, this dude's a biterWhen it comes to girls? He can't get laid unless there's booze inside herHe also likes to drug them and make them loose with ciderI am just kidding, he's a "flamer" looking like a human lighterPeace...
Rap Battle Tourney Round 1: MassiveDump vs. Rational_Thinker9119

Welcome to Round 1 of TUF's DDO member themed Rap Battle Tourney! In this rap battle, both of have picked a DDO member to impersonate, and will battle as that DDO member.Judging should be based on:1. Flow of the lines2. Rhyme quality3. Sensibility4. Accuracy of the insults5. Humor6. Cleverness/WittinessThis battle is going to be in all-text.MassiveDump as HimselfRational_Thinker9119 as HimselfBEGINAre you ready for this flame?cause this is ready to blow!But I don’t need to say my name,because you already know,That when I walked into this game,your rhyming sh!t had no flow,You’ve got debates on Hall of Fame?I didn’t f*cking think so!Cause I look new at first sight,But this is not a frontier,I get more views overnight,than you could get in year,I’m told hair jokes left and right,but hey, do you see a tear?My E-L-O’s at a height,that you could never come near,And you could never cohere,Right when I’m gettin’ severe,How can you steer in the clear,What I hear, is that you are a queer,But what I really hold dear,And bro I’m being sincere,Did you just say you’re self-employed?Hey, that’s my mom’s career!You like debates about religion,so you don’t sound phony,I can make them think I’m genius,just by talking ‘bout ponies,You’re a rational fake,you’d better grow some cojon-ees,Your debate career’s at stake,and all your sh!t is baloney. I’ll have your @ss on the brass,so fast you won’t know what passed,I’m the Mass in first class,the forecast is placing you last,“Woah Ace, slow the pace,You got space, this ain’t a race,”Or shut your FACE,It’s my PLACE,If you’re not BRACED, then I rest my CASE,Because when I first got started,they thought I was just a troll,And if that wasn’t retarded,Then try not having a soul,But I climbed out of that hole,Achieved a million goals,Now if you can’t take the heat,Then no one’s makin’ you scroll.-DUMP-
The UN is necessary and needs to stay.

My opponent's last round's argument is entirely based on the UN helping preventing WW3 and it's better to have then not, but if we look throughout recent history we can see that some of these great "peacekeeping" mission and issue resolving was not solved by the UN, but by other nations and alliances. The Cuban Missile Crisis was solved between the US and USSR, Several nuclear anti-poliferation talks like the SALT talks were done directly between nations, the Berlin Air lift crisis was solved by the US, Iran deal was by NATO, and Russia/China/Iran, etc. .. I have shown multiple times in this debate where the UN made things worse, like in Congo and Iran. I have shown how the UN voting and Peacekeeping system is flawed and this was dropped. I have brought up how 3rd party alliances solve, this was dropped. My opponent drops the UN peacekeeping system is broken and cannot work. We can see that there are many key points throughout this debate. I have shown that it is not necessary and needs to be abolished.
The UN is necessary and needs to stay.

The UN is needed now more then ever and if it is gotten rid of then you would be making an diar mistake. I will admit the UN isn't perfect, but it is there trying to do the right things and make the world an better place. Look there is problems in the world still rape, murder, war forced labor. But the UN is right now divided and underfounded. If we get rid of it then the world will began to split into two factions even more aka the west vs the east. During the soviet union era the UN while still not perfect it helped keep the world from having WW3. If you like it or not the UN is slowly and steadily being the world together. It will not happen over night, but it will happen. You look only at the UN's failures and I look at both, they try to lack of stoping war and famine all together. But they have changed lives for the better. You forget why it was formed and where there power is from, it was formed to make sure that the world becomes safer and an better place and to prevent major wars from breacking out. The UN doesn't have any official army, and if we get rid of it one of the few places that are not completely divided will be gone. People need the UN, now yes other alliances like NATO has also done good, but my point is we can not give up just based on an few failures here and there. We need to stand strong and show our support. There is an phase I like never surrender never give up, and this would be giving up. Sorry I would have added more but I ran out of time Back to you con good luck