the Qur'an holds more truth and is more advance in a sense than the bible.

I have not stated anything is "a mere coincidence or this is something that someone can merely see. " I do not understand Pro's reason for saying it does not detract from his point. As for the debate, I stated at the beginning: "I will not be arguing that the Bible is true; rather that both this and the Quran are scientifically false. " The resolution of this debate is: "The Qu'ran holds more truth and is more advance (sic) in a sense than the Bible. " Therefore I do not have to prove that the Bible is true, merely the Qu'ran does not hold *more* truth. I am not defending the Bible. In order to negate the resolution I only to offer evidence the Qu'ran also is scientifically wrong and contradictory, the same as the Bible. 1), 2), 3), 3)b, 3)c): If these arguments were not useful, I have to wonder why Pro even offered them. Pro can't simply turn around and say "oh by the way it doesn't matter" if I critique them. 3)d: Surah Al Tariq 86:5-7: "So let man consider from what he is created. He is created from a gushing fluid That issued from between the loins and ribs. " Perhaps Pro'd like to inform me of what this means, if not semen. Is there some "gushing fluid" that helps create human beings aside from this. As I stated before, not knowing Arabic I cannot follow the subtleties of the original writing. If Pro wanted an opponent who could, an Arabic speaker should be specified. I cannot compete with Pro's knowledge in this area of the debate. I can only go by the English translations, which Pro says are wrong. If we go by what Pro has said, the translator seems to have settled on this translation, given the ambiguity and vagueness Pro's stated to exist in the Arabic verse. I do wish to note, however, that in all of Pro's discourse on the Arabic, nowhere does he mention whether it says "gushing fluid" or something of that kind in the original. 4) The fact that both Sun and Moon had orbits has been known since before the Qu'ran or Islam were ever heard of. However, it was felt the Sun orbited the Earth instead of vice versa, as we now know to be true. Nowhere in this verse do we see an indication the author knows the Sun moves around the Earth. It was also known the other planets moved around, though as before with the Earth placed in the center rather than the Sun. If the Qu'ran revealed this error, or the fact there are (nine? ) planets, that would be more compelling. 6) Well I've made my argument on that one, might as well let it rest. 7) The zygote is *not* a clot of blood. Taking nourishment from blood is not the same as *being* it, obviously. I do not see a picture of the zygote linked. Please do link the verse where the zygote is said to be clinging. Let's leave the score for voters, shall we? I have never contested errors in the Bible; as I stated, my proving your Qu'ran is equally full of errors would be enough. Furthermore, you have not responded to most of the counter-examples I made from the Qu'ran, so let's not keep score until then. Allow me to refresh them and add more. Scientific errors (new listed first): Surah An-Nisa 4:1 Humans created from a single man. Surah Al-Mai'da 5:27-31 Cain and Abel story repeated (although they aren't named). Surah Joseph 12:4 Joseph saw in a dream eleven planets. Surah 6:100-101-No, 35:1-Yes (on the question) Can Allah do anything? Surah 3:85, 5:72-Yes, 2:62, 5:89-No (on the question) Will all Christians go to hell? Surah 4:3-Yes, 4:129-No (on the question) Can a man deal fairly with his wives? Surah 39:4-Yes, 6:100-1-No (on the question) Could Allah have a son? (Refreshed) Surah Al Dhariyat 51:49: "And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect. " This is far more blatantly false, as we know that many animals reproduce asexually. . http://en.wikipedia.org...... Surah Al Dhariyat 51:50 "Therefore flee unto Allah; lo! I am a plain warner unto you from him. " This indicates someone else is writing or dictating the Quran-Prophet Muhammad? There are many more instances of this. This should do, since Pro conceded 2 arguments that I made I've only put up 9 (but there are way more where that came from).