Slavery Is Worse Than The Holocaust

Hi again,Hope you had a great weekend! And appreciated your rebuttals and am interested to see where this debate ends up.Now continuing on with the rebuttals.Rebuttal #1 l Death Toll ComparisonIt appears my opponent has not read the most recent research done on this matter which changes this total number drastically. It is now estimated that upwards of about 20 million people lost their lives in the Holocaust, in the now numbered 42,500 camps and ghettos that the Nazi's setup.[1] While it is almost impossible to determine even close to the amount who lost their lives during American Slavery, it does not rival the actual numbers from the Holocaust.Rebuttal #2 l ExperimentationI find it interesting that my opponent would even think to compare the experimentation of one man, J. Marion Sims, to the entire Nazi Regime's policies for experimentation. J. Marion Sims is known today as the father of gynecology, and made real notable contributions to the medical field despite his downfall in the aforementioned areas. Vaginal surgery: fistula repair. Instrumentation: Sims' speculum; Sims' sigmoid catheter. Exam and surgical positioning: Sim's position. Fertility treatment: Insemination and postcoital tests. Cancer care: Sims argued for the admission of cancer patients to the Woman's Hospital, at a time when people opposed him, as they feared that cancer was contagious. Abdominal surgery: Sims advocated that in the case of an abdominal bullet wound, a laparotomy was needed to stop bleeding, repair the damage and drain the wound. His opinion was sought when President James Garfield was shot; he responded by telegram from Paris. Sims' recommendations later gained acceptance. Gallbladder surgery: In 1878, Sims drained a distended gallbladder and removed its stones. He published the case believing it was the first of its kind; however, a similar case had already been reported in Indianapolis in 1867.[2] The experiments that he performed, were to repair the fistula on 14 black women who were slaves. It is also notable that he did not use anethesia on them because the practice had just began and was not in standard practice.[3] These experiments are also not comparable due to the fact that Sims was attempting to repair these women of damage that was for a long time thought to be irreparable, while the Nazi "doctors" would create new problems such as infecting children with tuberculosis as seen pictured below. The overall number of Nazi experimentation as well and more importantly the severity and outcome of the experiments cause those done in the Holocaust to be far worse than what Sims ever did.Rebuttal #3 l Extermination"The "Final Solution" of the Jewish question meant the complete extermination of all Jews in Europe. I was ordered to establish extermination facilities at Auschwitz in June 1941. At that time there were already in the General Government of Poland three other extermination camps: Belzec, Treblinka and Wolzek...I visited Treblinka to find out how they carried out their extermination. The camp commandant at Treblinka told me that he had liquidated 80,000 in the course of half a year. He was principally concerned with liquidating all the Jews from the Warsaw ghetto.He used monoxide gas and I did not think his methods were very efficient. So when I set up the extermination building at Auschwitz, I used Zyklon B, which was a crystalized prussic acid which we dropped into the death chamber from a small opening. It took from three to fifteen minutes to kill the people in the death chamber, depending upon climactic conditions.We knew when the people people were dead because their screaming stopped. We usually waited about a half our before we opened the doors and removed the bodies. After the bodies were removed our special commandos took off the rings and extracted the gold from the teeth of the corpses.Another imporvement we made over Treblinka was that we built our gas chambers to accommodate 2,000 people at one time, whereas at Treblinka their ten gas chambers only accommodated 200 people each."[4]This was written by Rudolf Höss the commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp.The loss of all life is tragic, but to compare the acts of the KKK to the exterminations of the Nazi death camps is ludicrious. These death camps were accomodating for murdering up to 6,000 people a day and even the "inefficient" camps were capable of killing 80,000 in half a year.There was even on instance where 34,000 men, women and chlidren were gunned down by the Germans at Baba Yar on September 29th and 30th of 1941.[5] Concluding Statements: My opponent also attempted to "move the goal posts," by arguing that his remarks are in regards to ALL slavery, and therefore seeking to lay claim to my arguments from my initial post. Yet, every last one of his arguments is about American slavery, even in his rebuttal. I maintain that it would be in line with good conduct to extend one's argument beyond what they bound it to within the first opening arguments, as any observer can see that it was made very clear in his opening statements that his argument was specifically about Slavery in the Atlantic.Kind Regards,Truescotsman [1] http://www.nytimes.com...;[2] http://en.wikipedia.org...[3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...;[4] Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, William Shirer pg. 871[5] http://www.ushmm.org...;