Corporate greed is more harmful than taxes collected by the government

Confession time: I'm hating the character limit I put. I had made a more responsive post three times this size in Notepad that I couldn't get to fit into my character limit, my only solution was to focus on HMO vs. universal health care in this argument, just trust that my original rebuttal had a lot more, heh. I think I'm going to stick with full 8k post limits in all my future debates I create. Respects, as always, to my opponent and regrets I could not respond to all his points in this rebuttal. === "Control by RIGHT" ... that's far more true of beauracracies who are on government salary instead of stocks and bonuses to do the best job they can carrying out a duty to help people instead of profiting off of them. Imagine where we'd be if police or fire departments were managed by corporations the way hospitals are. If you have no insurance and no means to pay, no one will put out the fire destroying your house and no one will bring the creep who raped your little girl to justice. Thousands of people die annually from medically preventable causes that would be caught and treated early if they had regular access to a doctor. Compare this with "socialist" states which have a fraction of our per-capita expenditure on health care (and yet many of our "capita" get zero "product" from our health care system). They pay less than we do out of their paychecks for health care, and get much more! I can think of no stronger proof for my case than the fact that our corporatized health care system kills more people every year than al-Qaeda killed on 9-11. There's no shock and horror sight of skyscrapers crumbling in smoke and dust or a hole torn in our nation's military command center, its spread out in every state and community, so its easier to hide, bury and not think about, but I don't see why Americans left to die by HMO greed are any less victims than the victims of terrorism. No "first" or "second" world country on the planet has a corporatized health care system even vaguely resembling that of the U.S. All of theirs are provided by the government through "evil" taxes. The result? Overall, people pay much less for their health care (in terms of how much money they pay in taxes to fund the national health care systems) and get unhindered health care access. No rewarded-for-killing-people corporate judge hunts for excuses on why they don't need to cover a patient for critical life-saving procedures even though that patient has been a customer paying gargantuan premiums for years. It is absolutely atrocious and ridiculous to lay even a significant portion of blame on government taxes and regulation for this situation. I challenge you to shop around to find what HMOs you can get as an alternative to your employer-supported one. By and large, there are zero alternatives ... you can pay thousands of dollars in premiums, or you can gamble that you just won't get sick or injured or need regular health care. Pay them to make sure the chambers are empty when you are forced into a game of Russian Roulette by corporations, or take a gamble that the loaded chamber just won't come up every day you are forced to play that game.