The Earth is mostly spherical.

Thanks to my opponent for a new debate on the subject of the shape of the earth. As my opponent loves to hear, (and refute) flat earth proof, I love to present it. Let's skip the potatoes and go straight for the meat. I would like to remind my opponent and our voters that the fat earth awakening is fairly new, with most of the research and experiments coming in the last two to three years. There are many views on the flat earth and how it works, most of the views stemming from either shills like those found on tfes forums and just misunderstood specifics of the model,Rebuttals to my case 1. Distances sightedMy opponent still holds that the images Mr Joshua presents are mirages. This is confusing, in that he entirely ignores the time lapse(1) I presented. While mirages may occur occasionally,(2) they do always, as in the picture my opponent provides, appear inverted, semi-transparent, and distorted. The fact that a mirage of the city can appear does not negate my proof. I honestly thought this was resolved in our last debate. The fact that the image has been captured multiple times, let alone the time lapse, at all times of the day, but especially after the sun goes down, proves that this can't be a mirage. As my opponent points out: "I believe I did cover this point quite well in the previous debate." The debate was a loss for him, and unless my opponent can otherwise explain this image, the proof still stands.(1) (1) (2) https://www.facebook.com...2 Reflections of light on waterNot only would the sun's reflection be completely different, all reflections on water would appear differently. If the waters of earth had a convex surface, as my curvature statement from the last debate explains, reflections would not be identical to what was being reflected. Convex mirrors produce a shorter reflection. All one needs to prove this is a spoon. Although the surface of the earth is much larger, and the curvature not as noticeable, the same effect should be seen. You cannot get a perfect reflection on a curved surface. Had my opponent performed the simple experiment, he would see this. I have provided an actual picture of this being performed, instead of a drawing as my my opponent does. In the spherical earth model, the sun is actually below the viewers feet even before it sets. Does it seem when you are watching the sun set, that the sun is below your feet? 3. Flight pathsMy opponent offers two possible explanations as to why flights from Delta go 5,000 miles northward on a path to a southern continent from a southern continent. A) FuelLet it be known that the distance between Chile and Sydney is, (according to your model) the distance between Chile and New Zealand is roughly the same distance as from Chile to LAX this being a stop off point in this flight. So my question is, why go 5,600 miles in the wrong direction, when a perfectly good refueling stop is on the way, at about the same distance? You are essentially adding over 5,000 miles to the journey? While this proof isn't exactly empirical, and since the flat earth community isn't exactly sure what the map actually looks like, so it could be wrong, though it sure should raise an eyebrow or two.b) economic efficiency My rebuttal is not unlike the one above. How is it more economically feasible to travel twice the distance, to pick another few passengers up?4. Gyroscopes My opponent brings up that there are two types of gyroscopes, one being a space gyroscope, the other, an earth gyroscope. Upon investigation, (trying to figure out the difference between the two) I bring up the definition of a space gyro as:Space Gyros The simplest is the free or space gyroscope that is completely free to move in all three planes in relation to its mounting system.Earth Gyro The spin axis is tied by the earth's gravity to remain in the earth vertical. e.g. Artificial Horizon. It also has the freedom of movement in three planes. It seems the only difference is the placement of big g in there! Both gyros are allowed to rotate on 3 axis. But the "earth gyro" supposedly remains fixed "due to the earth's gravity". How? What sort of change must be done to account for gravity? Without having to disprove gravity (again) I'll approach this from a different angle this is convenient for my opponent in that this information was probably added recently as the system found this error in their model, we know this because this training video says otherwise, before "space travel", in 1960. https://youtu.be...Rebuttal of my opponents "fresh arguments "1. Satellites exist and require a spherical Earth to function properly. We can't assume that at least a few satellites exist. I will now attempt to disprove satellites. My opponent's drawing is comical, but understandable, considering the thinking that indoctrination has led the masses to do.My opponent's proof of satellites is as followed: We can see the ISS.Many people can follow the ISS through one of a few "tracking" sites. These are websites that are essentially supposed to show exactly where the ISS IS ON A map at any given time. This is how people are able to find the ISS in order to see it. If one were to pull up one of these sites however, and change the date and time on the device they are using, they can control the ISS. This proves that the ISS isn't being tracked at all, and is one proof against the ISS. Furthermore, The ISS appearance is strangely similar in appearance to another high flying craft, U2 spy planes. Perhaps a hologram is being projected on or from the bottom, it doesn't look like it is reflecting light to me, it appears self luminescent. It is often said that the ISS can be seen with the naked eye (if only as a tiny light). This is ridiculous to say the least, as the average Boeing 747 can only be seen as the same. These planes are about only 7 miles away, and one would only see one as a tiny dot, some planes, if no chemtrails are being spewed, can't be seen at all! Now the ISS is "orbiting" at a distance of about 250 miles from the earth, and planes, from only 7 miles above the earth can only be seen using a telephoto lens. How is this possible? I can't be the only critically thinking person here that knows this is just dumb. Thirdly, the ISS is said to be smack dab in the middle of the thermosphere. Temperatures here are said to reach 2,500 degrees. There are few materials that can last minutes, much less 18 years in these temps. Why aren't satellites glowing hot balls of metal? Because they don't exist. If you think that cell towers aren't sufficient enough to handle cellular phones, triangulation (gps) etc, you are mistaken. Why would they abandon tower communications in favor of a more expensive route, such as satellites? Wouldn't it make sense to put up more towers instead? 2. The way aerospace and orbital mechanics is taught. Firstly this is hardly empirical evidence, as most of us are not satellite engineers, including our voters, so we have to look at this proof in a skeptical light. I will address a key point from my opponents argument now."If the Earth were actually flat, none of these things would work. Rockets would be sent up, turn toward a prograde velocity vector, then smack into the side of the flat earth" This is exactly what happens, except the side of the Flat Earth is a body of water. Specifically an area labelled the Bermuda Triangle. This is mainly the reason the public is discouraged to enter here, likely false flags and government experiments are being performed here also. If rockets need to reach escape velocity to escape earth's gravitational pull, why then do they wait until the rocket is miles away from the earth, where gravity is not as strong to turn and achieve this speed? Shouldn't it be done instantly in order to take off? Where is the logic in this? http://beforeitsnews.com...3. Time zones indicate a spherical Earth.My opponent's assumption that my claiming the sun is not almost 100 million miles away is correct, but his "facts" about the heat of the sun are false. If the sun was 93 million miles away, there should be a uniform temperature for the earth. The equator is known to be the warmest spot on earth. The earth is at a tilt in his model, so the equator should be invariably colder and hotter in respect to the rest of the world. What's more, go only a few thousand miles north or south and we get freezing temps. How does only a few thousand miles make such a difference in temperature when the source is almost 100 million miles away? How is it summer when we are closest to the earth? There is evidence for my claim. Videos of the sun going toward the horizon have been analyzed, and show a definite shrinking of the sun. (1) Time lapses show the same thing. A shrinking sun is a smoking gun proof that it is close. High altitude (2) balloon launch videos show the sun to be several times the size it appears from the ground, as well as a sunspot directly below the sun. Videos of the sun from official sources show a blazing sun, one that is burning , but filtered and magnified videos (3) from other sources show a bright disc, minus the flames coming off of the sides of it. In conclusion, the sun is only a fraction of the distance claimed by modern astronomy, and but a fraction of it's size. It follows the law of perspective, as does everything known to man, and only goes far enough away from a certain point that it (and it's light) is no longer visible. At a certain distance, it reaches the vanishing point. (1) (2) (3)