Redebate: Puppies should be tortured.

I think that was a wonderful story! =P 1. Yes, I can accept some hypothetical examples, since they are just examples. Agreed. 2. If a person doesn't feel a debate has change his or her views, then that is fine. But the whole point of the debate is 1: we argue to see who's ideas are right, and 2: to see who brings a better argument. You agree on 2. but not 1. 3. If a debate is political, we should have our full attention to reality. If a debate is about "Batman vs. Spider man" then we can easily not worry about scientific laws and theories. Here, we have an issue that is neither too realist nor fantasy. We still have much to learn about dogs and how they behave. But overall, much is understood about dogs and we can assume realism should be enforced in this debate(with some hypothetical examples). a. http://www.Debate.org... b. http://www.Debate.org... 4. Torture is the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty. Torture can be death penalty, life in prison, etc. In today's culture, we use torture vaguely and loosely. Torture can be staying at your mother-in-law over the holiday for some people. But in most cases, people define torture differently today. In our society, we think of torture as physical pain being inflicted. a.http://dictionary.reference.com... 5. Puppies are not rational beings. Dogs do not think like humans. Their intelligence is not the same as ours. Human intelligence is the most controversial in psychology. Yet with dogs, there are only 3 basic intelligences of a dog. a.http://petrix.com... b.http://www.psych.utoronto.ca... 6. A dog does not understand if it is permissible to kill. Dogs do not think of the past or future. They think of the present. 7. A dog only understand what not do a certain action if it is taught by it's owner. A dog is a species that must live with humans. Just like a hippo depending on birds to eat away bacteria off of the hippo. If the dog is wild, it is de-generating(or becoming a wolf). a.http://www.lookd.com... 8. The "above understandings" are not correct. 9. In a lot of cases, the fault of a crime of a dog should actually be blamed on the human not the dog. A dog lives a life of being in a pack. In that pack, they are all equal except for the pack leader. The pack leader and mother teach the dog how to behave in that current state of tense(present). If a dog commits an "atrocity" it is because of self-dense or because it is taught to behave that way. a. Example: If an owner has a pregnant dog that was not tied up and that dog bit a child, it is the owners fault for not having the dog detained. The dog bit the child because of fear of her unborn puppy's health which turned into anger. 10. Remember, we are talking about puppies... A puppy is not fully grown and has not fully been raised up. A puppy, as well as children, make mistakes. These mistakes must be corrected yet not punished with torture. Conclusion: I have rebutted my opponent's responses and in some cases (#1) agreed with him. I believe the contender does not fully understand the psychology of a dog. He compares it very similar to psychology of a human. Therefore, my opponent has provided false information about dogs/puppies. I await my opponent's response. Thank you.