In this world (ie. not in a perfect world) prisoners should get the vote.

I understand your argument, that 1% will not empower some horrible corrupt politician, as 49% of people who are not in prison would have to vote for them for the 1% figure to matter, meaning the politician is obviously not some horrible person. I agree to an extent on this, however, there is always a chance that the 1% sees something that the 49% do not, or the 49% have voted for this candidate for partially the same reasons as the prisoners. This is getting kind of out of hand, but my main point I'm trying to make is that saying "giving them the right to vote won't make much of a difference" is not much of an argument. Social change in favour of people who have been imprisoned may not necessarily be a good thing. For us to say that prisoners should get a vote would mean we would have to have without a doubt, or reasonable expectations that it would be almost completely positive outcome. Saying "it may have a positive outcome" is not enough grounds to pass a law. It may also have a positive outcome to make owning guns illegal, does that mean we should just ban all guns?Thanks for understanding where I'm coming from. Although I don't believe they need to be punished primarily to bring closure to the victim*, but to say allowing them the chance to vote would help in a rehabilitation process would need some examples and sources. Some people can fit in with society just fine, but have severe mental problems that cause them to act on pure emotion, which causes them to rape or murder people. Maybe they can vote just fine, or even interact with most people just fine.*I believe they need to be punished, or locked away, to protect society. If they don't care, then great. It's not supposed to be nice for rapists or murderers or really any king of criminal in prison.Maybe I don't see prison as rehabilitation. Maybe I see it purely as a place that people go who are detrimental to society. If they were to go to a rehabilitation hospital, then I would say they should get the right to vote, but if they're in prison, locked away from society, they shouldn't have a say in who runs that society.So these people have all had this right from the get-go. They know they have the right to vote, they know they can attend school and get an education, they know the police will protect them, they know they are part of a community. And they screwed that up. Saying "hey by the way, just reminding you that you can still vote in prison," will most likely have little to no effect on any type of rehabilitation back into society. I don't see the "criminals" or "prisoners" as non-human, I see them as detrimental to society, which is why they have been locked away from society.I would like to just bring up two points I made earlier that I believe are the most important;1. Prisoners are in prison, not a rehabilitation hospital or clinic. If the prisoners were in a rehabilitation unit of the prison, then I might be more lenient on allowing a vote. They are locked away from society because they have been deemed detrimental to society. If those individuals end up entering a rehabilitation program, or area, I would be more lenient on allowing a vote.2. These prisoners have had the right to vote and interact with society from the get-go. Giving them the right to vote in prison would not make a difference, and in turn not change their perspective on society and how they are viewed by society, as that is how they have been treated forever. They messed that up, and now they are in prison because of it. Saying "let's give them the right to vote" in hopes that it helps them understand that society is not against them is the wrong idea - society has given them the right to vote, and they should know society is not against them anyway.Thank you too, this is going well!