smoking should be made illegal and not just discouraged

Thanks for the reply. I apologize for my late response, i had a busy day. "True. Smoking is their addiction it"d be next to impossible to get the heavy smokers off their addiction. But what about the people of tomorrow. If smoking is not banned and all of the supply of cigarette is not completely stopped, those people will actually want to try cigarette" I can see what you mean. It may seem like a good idea to stop the production of cigarettes, but it's not. There might be people that love to smoke, and will want to try a cigar, but you can only warn them of the negative impacts it will have on their health. After all, it's their cigar, their lungs, their health, their life. By stopping the production of cigarettes, you are taking away their freedom to smoke. You have to convince them, that smoking is bad. But never, ever forbid them to do as they please. It's their right to smoke and you can't stop it. Imagine me coming and saying that we should ban football from being played in schools to protect the next generation. Kids all around the world playing football get broken knees, shattered legs, ankles, surfical trauma, heat stroke and concussions. From 1931 to 2007 665 kids died from injuries they suffered playing football. Shall we ban football too, in order too protect those kids from getting harmed? "you said that if they don"t smoke, they"ll go crazy. True but do you want this to continue?" No, but it's irrelevant. Just because you, or i don't want it to continue doesn't mean that we can make a smoker stop smoking by forcing it, just as you would never stop a drug dealer from selling drugs by banning them. "But it totally becomes theirs(the government, local people etc") when they start on disturbing people with their smoke. Not only will they disturb them but it will have a negative effect on the environment. Not to mention the disease caused by those smoke are incurable. " As i said, if they disturb anyone with the smoke, you have the right to tell them to put it off, or go somewhere else. Don't get me started on the environment argument you said. Some diseases caused by smoking are preventable and sometimes even curable. "So, did they(non-smokers) get those diseases because of their own actions? Of course not! They got all those diseases because of the smokers and because of them, they need to pay for their hospital fees, which is a hell a lot, their life span will be reduced and all other negative effects" Yes, it's their fault they sat next to a smoker and didn't do anything about it. You have the ability to walk out a bar because there are smokers, but when you choose to stay, it's your fault. Then you say because of smokers they need to pay for hospital fees. Do you ask from the butcher to pay your hospital fees when you go to get that big worm that lives in your stomach removed, because the meat the butcher sold to you was probably the cause? No. It's your choice to get meat from the butcher, so don't complain. "Because of one smoker, more smoker will be there(influenced) and because of them, thousands of people will be harmed. The cycle will continue for as long smokers are there. The only way to stop this cycle is to ban cigarette and stop the supply permanently." You make it sound like it's an super deadly disease that nobody can be safe from unless we drop that ban hammer on the cigarette factories. It's not that bad. You get the chance not to get influenced by any smoker at all, by going to smoker-free bars, pubs or cafes, or just staying away from a smoker. It's not that hard. Thousands will be harmed? Alcohol does harm too, shall we ban it? Kids watching a match on TV will get influenced and will want to play football, but they get injured. Shall we ban football? "as you know, our resources are depleting rapidly and lately, the government have been trying so hard to conserve. That"s why there are those billboards and signs about recycle and all" Recycling is not resource-conserving. Please do some research before you bring up recycling. Recycling costs as much as 8 billions dollars to the US Government, money which could be put in good use instead of being thrown away. " If cigarette manufacturer are still there, wasting their resources on making toxic, polluting the lake, rivers, increasing the rate of resource depletion even more and increasing their rate of production every day, harming the lives of even more people every day, increasing the rate of the destruction of ozone layer. This have a negative effect on every single thing on earth. I can list down all the negative effect" I would like you to explain your thinking here please. Explain to me how you think it works. "also, from your last paragraph, you said that If I met a smoker in the bar, I could just tell him to go outside. And I presume that the summary for the first paragraph is that smokers have bad temper. Do you think such people with such negative attitudes and behavior would want to listen to a nobody like me? The only thing I"ll get is a fight/a quarrel at the very least. Also, they can"t get outside because they came to the bar in the first place for a reason you know." No. Smokers don't have a bad temper. They can have a bad mood or temper if they don't get the dosage. And since you are talking about a pub where they are smoking, their temper should be their normal, with no effects from the cigarette. Smokers don't differ from you or me. They are normal human beings, and they can have a bad temper or be really friendly. It depends if he will hear you or not, but it's your right to breathe free air, you can tell him to go somewhere else. If he doesn't do anything, you walk up to the guy that owns the bar and let him know, and he will take care of him. Unless you are in a bar that smoking inside is allowed, you will probably get what you want. Most of them are kind enough to just say ok, and put it off. Of course, they might light it up again after 15 minutes, not because they are bad and want to piss you off, but because they so badly want to smoke and forget that you are there. If they came to a bar and they smoke inside, you are in the wrong bar. Because that is a smoker bar. You just leave and go to another bar. It's really that simple. Thank you for round 2, please don't forget at round 3 to explain your argument. Thanks.