christianity is a force for good in the world

Again I shall start by rebutting followed by arguments So my opponent is arguing that an institution which admitted evils such as the crusades, the Inquisition, the persecution of the Jewish people, injustice towards women (I must stress again that"s half the human race right there), forced conversion of indigenous peoples especially in South America, the African slave trade, the admission that Galileo (If I am confused on this topic as my opponent claims I am why did they feel the need to apologise) was right, and for silence during Hitler's Final Solution. My opponent claims that all this is not evil because they apologised. Come on that's a joke. What other as my opponent would say righteous organization would authorise genocide the most appalling crime imaginable and allow the african slave trade. The church would shame even the most ambitious psychopath. My opponent then argued that I am misguided in my arguments towards the question, I have to ask is the church not a main part of christianity? You'll find the answer is yes. Ahh abstinence also apart of the ABC strategy (1), yes it's true that abstinence prevents AIDS BUT SO DO CONDOMS and for shame to the pope for suggesting they are worse than AIDS. Again I have to ask who are these virgins who have the audacity to tell us how to live our sex lives. To the truck drivers do I have to refer you again to my reference on what set the AIDS epidemic in Africa out of control, the quote from the pope. He was in Africa a fastly uneducated place compared to these America where I assume these 'truck drivers' are from. Education is also a major player in the prevention of STD's something unfortunately the african community lacks (2). Make no mistake religious moderation is the product of secular knowledge and scriptural ignorance. On the Catholic churches solution, you're right that is not the evil teaching and I never claimed it was, the evil teaching was 'AIDS are bad but not as bad as condoms' On Buddhism not making it's way to the West this is because christianity as I have already stated fought tooth and nail to ensure people only followed christianity. Ahh forgiveness of sins in relation to the sacrifice of jesus known as vicarious redemption, another outrageously corrupt teaching of christianity, it teaches don't worry about your crimes i'll serve your time in prison don't take responsibility for what you have done this is known as scapegoating. It pushes a "gift" on me that I would not want nor ask for, and then threatens me if I don't accept it with eternal torture and separation from my loved ones for eternity. Another grotesque teaching that my opponent has just tried to claim is 'good'. So yes this is what I call as 'baggage'. Again you bring up love my enemy, do not dare to tell me to love my enemies. I don't do that and I don"t want you doing it for me either. Go love your own enemies. Don't be loving mine. I'll get on with the business of destroying, isolating, and combating the enemies of civilization. Should we love ISIS ha please. I wasnt the one taking the literalist interpretation that was you I was saying if you wanted to go down that path then that is what you must accept. Again I must refer you to my previous reference and points, this was a core teaching during the time of the crusades. Back to schools I see again yes I know this I went to one of those schools renowned for it's excellence in education, but we were taught by teachers not the priests even still this does not excuse the abuse and rape of boys at those schools. Staying in America the church in has spent at least $2.2 billion settling litigation related to the crisis, and that there may have been as many as 100,000 total victims of clerical sexual abuse, I have to wonder out of those 100,000 how many were children. And this just up to 2012 (3). I thought I made my point clear about the christians who do good, they do it out of the goodness of their own hearts not because of christianity and if not do I have to refer you again to the Rust Chole/ Matthew Mcconaughey quote. I thought it would have been fairly obvious religious types would have set up these secular charities, because the majority of the population is religious. Having said that there must have been a reason they wanted them to be secular, i'd say so there is no secondary motivation to convert those they help. So include these charities in any category you want it makes no difference. "Yemen and Bangladesh do not even have a statistically sizable Christian population" you must have misread my argument; that was was my entire point where women's right's in these countries has increased poverty has gone down. The only people who could be opposed to something as beneficial and 'miraculous' as to stem cell research are either the ignorant or religious the fact that religious people think a collection of cells with no brain, nervous system or consciousness (4) is equivalent to a 4 year old girl with spinal injuries sickens me to the core. "Despite its hiccups along the way" is the most outrageously, gross and immoral statement you have made during this debate to excuse the oppression of women again half the human race, genocide and allowing of genocide, acceptance of slavery, abuse and rape of too many children to count among everything else listed as a "hiccup" is an outrage, and I my opponent should apologise and show some shame. To my argument Name one moral or ethical action or behaviour committed or carried out by a believer that could not have been committed or carried out by a non believer, it cannot be done. Now name one immoral or unethical action or behaviour that has been committed or carried out by a believer that could not be done by a non believer and you can think of some straight away. To end with a quote from Steven Weinberg "with or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion" To keep it fair I propose no new arguments should be allowed in the 5th round source 1. http://en.wikipedia.org... 2. http://library.unesco-iicba.org... 3. http://ncronline.org... 4. http://truthsite.org...