World War III Part 2

Ill Just copy paste my last argument from the other debate so that we can get right back on track.... You claim that since your Chinese you know for sure that China would immediately aid North Korea, but you fail to offer any factual support of such an idea and you rest this whole idea on the fact that "Im Chinese, I know what China would do" I had to go look into the facts you provided without any sources and here is what i found. Chinese troops on the North Korean Border = 150,000, but the reason China has so many troops along the border is not to immediately come rushing to their aid, its to keep out illegal immigrants. North Korea to China is a lot like Mexico to the US. http://en.wihttp...... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese%E2%80%93Korean_border_fence http://www.asianresearch.org...... So China is using its massive military to keep North Koreans OUT, and consider this. You use America not wanting to harm trade with China as an excuse for not going all out in war against them, but you offer no excuse for why China would cut trade with the US just for North Korea..... Why would China protect ties to a country that supplies them with nearly all their military resources over the US which through trade brings in $1.4 trillion dollars for them. Relations with North Korea = $4,200,000,000 = 4.2 billion Relations with the US = $1,400,000,000,000 = 1,400 billion http://www.iie.com...... http://www.theatlantic.com...... So If common sense prevails, China would not immediately cut all trade to the US just to protect North Korea. As for China's entire military, Recent negotiations with them have revealed that China spends 10x less on their military what America spends, and the money they do spend is to try to modernize their military http://english.chosun.com...... http://defensetech.org...... So China would not immediately come to North Korea's Aid, their military is not nearly as advanced as the US. And with the state of North Korea's military being on even worse shape, combined Japanese, South Korea, ad already deployed US troops could easily eliminate North Korea, and force a stalemate with China. As for Russian relations with North Korea, you base it entirely on a claim that South Korea would threaten the Russians and threaten to destroy the S-400, An S-400 is a missile defense system that is currently being replaced with an S-500 So 1) Why would South Korea threaten Russia? 2) Why would Russia provide all out support for North Korea when they have had no relations since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991? 3) How would Russia get their entire aging military across Siberian Russia JUST to help a country they have been cutting ties with? http://www.defensemedianetwork.com...... http://en.wikipedia.org...... http://www.crisisgroup.org...... As I said before If Russia were to enter WWIII it would be just to expand into Europe while the US was preoccupied in the Korean Theater. Russia would try to invade a series of countries along their border which includes Finland, Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Poland, etc. Each country would have a aging military and would not be able to put up a fight on their own, but if all these countries were to start fighting just Russia than Russia would drain any resources they have before they start fighting any actual powerful country. " America would not use THAT MUCH MONEY again because the Americans remember from Bush's administration" I dont even know what your trying to argue here but if WWIII were to break out I think there would be quite a lot of support for doing whatever it takes to make sure America is safe. " USA, as I said wouldn't come over from America but maybe Japan and Guam! Don't argue with that point" Well to quote Jack Sparrow, "I IS arguing the point" f North Korea were to start to invade South Korea, one of the US's biggest trading partners, the US would surely come to their aid to both defend South Korea and eliminate North Korea in the process. The US would definitely cross the Pacific (like they've done in the past before South Korea was even a valuable trading ally) to protect their interests in South Korea.... "Russia has a huge army and has a great ability because it has one of the largest economies in the world and a huge GDP!" Sources showing that Russia's army is not very advanced, very poorly equipped, and that their GDP is 14x smaller than that of the US http://en.wikipedia.org......(nominal) http://www.thedailybeast.com...... http://www.spacewar.com...... http://www.amo.cz...... Russia spends 46 billion on an already weak military US spends 685 billion on the most advanced military in the world.... http://en.wikipedia.org...... http://www.globalsecurity.org...... "Therefore UK would start to send troops in a matter of months while Germany would not also come in around the time of UK coming in!" Your idea that the UK would come to the immediate aid of North Korea over the US is also completely unfounded. If Britain and Germany were to enter WWIII it would be for reasons other than what is going on in North Korea.... For whatever reasons they enter the war, the UK vs Germany would be a very, very close fight. British spending on the military = 47 Billion German spending on military = 42 Billion British military numbers = 100,000 German military numbers = 163,000 British military ranking = 3rd German military ranking = 5th http://www.businessinsider.com...... http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk...... http://www.csmonitor.com...... http://www.militarytimes.com...... http://www.dirjournal.com...... So It can be assumed that Any direct conflict between Germany and Britain would be very very close, but I doubt Britain would win by a wide enough margin to donate any military they have left to aid North Korea..... But here is one more thing to consider.... US troops in Britain = could not be found, estimated to be a few thousand US troops in Germany = Over 50,000 (also US troops stationed in Japan and South Korea = 85,000) http://www.dirjournal.com...... So If Britain were to fight Germany, and the US was on the side of Germany, then US troops would already be there and ready to fight Britain which could tip the conflict in favor of Germany if they had US support and Britain did not So to summarize 1) North Korea is already under-supplied and weak. 2) Japan, South Korean, and US troops in the region are already vast. 3) China probably would not come to the immediate aid of North Korea 4) Russia who is even weaker would also not come to the immediate aid of North Korea 5) If Russia were to come they would have to move their entire military through Siberia and that could take years 6) Russia would probably invade small countries in East Europe and then lose any offensive capability before they went head to head against any actual power 7) Britain would lock into a war with Germany and would be very removed from the Asian theater, So it would be almost 1 on 1 8) US troops in Germany would tip the British-German conflict into the favor of the Germans. That is why I think they will win....