Religion Is Progressive and Necessary

My opponent has clearly given up on the pretense of logical support for a claim here. I think my opponent continues to struggle with basic concepts of integrity. Once again, (putting aside whatever the hell FGM is? Which is not something I mentioned so I am not sure how that works?) His claim: the children forced to attend religious rituals were being abused. Counter: Children very often have to do things against their will, and this is not abuse precisely because they are children. Forcing a child to learn math and learn religion are the same thing, and neither are abuse. Its just called parenting. The idea that simple parenting makes religion evil or regressive? Silliness itself. The ultimate test? My opponent could call the police force and file a formal complaint of abuse – where the reality for the complaint would be met appropriately. This is nothing but an appeal to emotionalism. You very clearly said that ‘forcing’ children to attend religious rituals was abuse. Children do many things by force … and none of abuse. The very idea that attending mass if someone in the same league and rape or being viciously beaten? Silliness. And no, a Marxist father bringing his son to a Marxist talk is not child abuse. I personally may disagree with someone opinion, but I mindful of the US Constitution that allows diversity of thought. I also have enough confidence in my beliefs that I am not worried by a different opinion. 2. The label of ‘child’ is applied to children, it is not abuse – it is an accurate term. How is this abuse? Akin to rape and physical beating? Who knows, its just an appeal to emotion. 3. You very clearly brought up female genital mutilation. : Forced genital mutilation is another gruesome side of religion. Your subsequent reference to simple circumcision is silly. We all now what genital mutilation is, and it is not circumcision. Its what you want to talk about, and I simple made the case based on actual harm. Somehow this makes religion bad? you are aware that science has documented benefits from male circumcision? http://www.cdc.gov...Are you seriousley attempting to make a scietifically proven benefit a religious problem/ 4. If you are talking about religion, then you need to stop picking things that are specific to a single religion and applying them to all religion. Circumcision is a widely practiced secular practice now, for example, to blame religion for this just down right silly. 5. Now we are cults? The Manson family of drug induced haze and murder is the same thing as Buddhism is it? Identical in every aspect? We are indeed reaching to smear at this point. By all means, prove that Buddhism is a cult. That it is the same thing as Jim Hones. 4. “I personally admire the Cultural Revolution.” You admire the slaughter of upwards of 50 million people to cement Mao’s political authority and the blocking of economic reforms that would have helped to cerate a middle class in China a generation earlier? 5. I am not even sure what this means: I am saying it once again. If person-A is a criminal, and has not yet been prosecuted, does not justify the crimes done by person-B.No religion appears to be making this claim. Why this is here? 6. What about the Crusades? Involves major religions. How are the Crusades any different from the Persian expansion its empire? The French attempts at Weltpolitik? The colonization of Africa by European Powers? The Russian expansion into Central Asia? The Japanese conquest of North Asia? Why did the Hindu Kush (Hindu Killers) block so many Indian forces? Right, any violence with even a tenuous link to religion is automatically bad. Other geo-political realities that lead to war are safely ignored. Do you even understand why Papal indulgences were so effective in the First Crusade? Why do you think there would be literal armies of men in need of pardon? Why do you thin the Mujahedeen today send there excess young men to war? 7. That is because IT IS A CULT. IT IS STATIC. Yep we are all devil worshippers. Sigh .. Is there any reason to pretend that this is rational any longer? And the clam that science has somehow stopped petty human emotions? Crime in eliminated is it? (Unless of course there are religious people involved … we are the only people that murder). 8. Women do not hate themselves. But most Religion doctrines are hateful towards women.Then ray tell how the flood of pornography, prostitution, unequal pay for the same work, and an entire network of human trafficking is somehow a better way to treat women. Putting aside the fact that you just ignored everything I said on the subject. 9. I WOULD NEVER HAVE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT EINSTEIN, IF YOU HAD NOT SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE.Einstein remains irrelevant, the sole point he made about religion and science requiring one another remains unaddressed. If scientists can see the value of religion? Ruh Roh. 10. I called you a liar for a reason. You called me a liar, repeatedly, because you did not like my answer and could not, indeed cannot, rebut the premise. You are a man without an argument. 11. [It is not a part of the debate. But while in a debate, you should try to stay honest.]Indeed we should. Instead of resorting to flagrant insults and victimization, if a point is misunderstood, then we should attempt to correct it and explain the point … not waste an entire round screaming LIAR. The basics of the argument remain unaddressed and unchanged. 1. The benefits of religion are clear – my opponent chose to skip them entirely. 2. The fallacious reasoning continues to be egregious justified with no real point. There is not a single general point about religion that withstands even the most cursory examination. The bad of religion is apparently the same as the Culture Revolution. Any pretense that my opponent’s criticism against religion was valid was eliminated when you professed respect for a process that is estimated to have murdered 50 million people. My opponent may have a thesis, he has no support, he cannot rebut the contentions laid before him, and he reaches no conclusion. The pretense of debate? The ability to actually structure an argument is gone. Religion appears to be bad now, because we are Satanic – any pretense that this is anything other than an appeal to spite is ended.