GODS EXSISTENCE

You did exactly what Christopher hitchens did avoid the point and so has everyone else who dosent belive in God that i have debated. PART 1 Even if everyone in the world was Christian, you wouldn't stop morality from being debated. Think about the Church throughout history: in the 1500s it was fine to kill and enslave someone who wasn't white, but it certainly isn't now. It's impossible to get everyone on the same moral page; there are always arguments. You blame atheism for this but it's human nature. First of all if you want to debate about the church and how they were wrong you win because i know that the church has had alot of bad history but they have done alot of good. And im not asking that eveyone in the world become a christian that is for God to decide. It is improbable to get everyone on the same page but thats why we have to have a base for what is rite and what is wrong for the past for today and for the future otherwise the world would be toatal chaos. it is human nature because there is sin in the world the reason why people are Atheists is because of sin thats how i think of it. And the reason why I blame Atheists for this is because it is those kind of people that are taking away are freedom that we one had in congress public schools and because of them teachers cant pray for the class be fore the test and congressmen cant pray or read the Bible to influence the way we change and add our laws even though 15 years ago we could do that so openly looks like because of atheists my freedoms have been takin away and thats why i pick on specifcally Atheists. But that is not what we are here to debate about we are here to debate about the exsistence of God. PART 2 "Humans have flaws, but most people don't need to be told that systematic torture and murder is wrong. Although people like Hitler or Stalin do terrible things, I don't think there has ever been a society that has actually condoned murder. Even these tyrants didn't say "murder is okay", they said "murder of these people is okay" and tried to justify their atrocities. Christian Churches have done the same things in the past; the Spanish Inquisition killed many people and justified saying that they were ungodly and deserved it. People have an aversion to killing and must be convinced into it; that is the only way psychopaths like Hitler were able to do what they did. It should also be noted that even so, he didn't convince a lot of people in the scheme of things." So if i am understanding you correctly you say that humans can be wrong. Good we agree so far. But you say that there has never benn a nation tha has condoned murder what a lie what about the Aztecs and how they would ENCOURAGE sacrifices of there babys and how men and women and children would have there hearts ripped out everyday for sacrifices. What about the Barbarian Nations of Mongolia and how they would kill there own people all the time and then laugh. Or those tribes in Africa that were cannibals they deffanetly didnt think it was wrong to kill people i mean thats how they survived. So OBVIOUSLY there has been nations that have condoned murder. Even if they didnt say murder of all people was ok even if they said that just murdering those people was ok it is still wrong to kill them. That dosent give them a Free pass. You say "Christian Churches have done the same things in the past; the Spanish Inquisition killed many people and justified saying that they were ungodly and deserved it." Well im not here to defend the church rite now i know what they did was wrong QUIT POINTING OUT PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT GOD AND MABY POINT OUT SOMETHING WRONG THAT THE CHRIDTIAN GOD DID IF YOU CAN EVEN FIND ANY FAULT WITH HIM. PART 3 I don't think the Bible ever mentions genocide directly. The ten commandments say "do not murder", but again, the Church has murdered based on prejudice and racism. We know this is wrong because it is unfair and illogical: there has never been any evidence that particular group of people is inferior based on race, ethnicity, ect. Again, I don't recall the Bible ever addressing this directly; humans know this on their own. Here we go again blaiming people who represent God and not GOD HIMSELF CLASSIC ATHEIST WAY TO DEBATE (AVOIDING THE POINT). Ok first of all if you new any thing about the church back then you would know that it was run by a bunch of poloticians that didnt care about God all they care about is power. and i am ashamed of the church for that. But what you are saying is crazy just because the bible dosent mention jenacide dosent mean its ok to go murder a different race then you just because your racist. The Bible says dont murder so i dont murder that includes all whether its because im racist. Our constitution dosent mention jenocide eather does that mean you can go out and kill people because you racist. No. The constitution also says we cant murder and that meane under no sercom stances unless self defense or capital punishment.The Bible and the Constitution assume that people are smart enough to figure this out. And who makes it illogical who said it was wrong to kill or it was unfair to kill it couldnt be us how could it be us.if there is no God then nothing makes sence we cant just say it is unfair or illogical because there is no reite and wrong without God. YOU use the word WE know this is unfair... but if it was us that said what was rite and what was wrong then I could kill your family. What if all of america went and killed every Atheist out there would you KNOW that wouldnt be fare or logical. But it has happened before a whole nation turned against Jews. You no what you are doin here you are admitting that there is a rite and a wrong which is CLEARLY admitting that there is a God if you read anything that I wrote. So this is what you are doing you are crawling on Gods lap, accepting his belifs being a "GOOD" person sharing, being generouse such as giving to charities, helping the starving in Africa. When really there is no point to do any of this anyways if you are atheist Because there is no such thing as GOOD, because there is no rite and wrong. So you basically accept the part of Christianity that you like (crawling on Gods lap) and then some one asks you if you are a beliver in Jesus and you say no. You take advantage of his mercy that he has for you and once you are all setteld in on his lap (being nice to people, donatting to charities, ect..) as soon as some one as asks you do you belive in God and you say no you SPIT IN HIS FACE PART 4 You no what you are doin here you are admitting that there is a rite and a wrong which is CLEARLY admitting that there is a God if you read anything that I wrote. So this is what you are doing you are crawling on Gods lap, accepting his belifs being a "GOOD" person sharing, being generouse such as giving to charities, helping the starving in Africa. When really there is no point to do any of this anyways if you are atheist Because there is no such thing as GOOD, because there is no rite and wrong. So you basically accept the part of Christianity that you like (crawling on Gods lap) and then some one asks you if you are a beliver in Jesus and you say no. You take advantage of his mercy that he has for you and once you are all setteld in on his lap (being nice to people, donatting to charities, ect..) as soon as some one as asks you do you belive in God and you say no you SPIT IN HIS FACE PLEASE DO THIS: tell me why you belive what you belive dont just correct me in your next argument are debate is about the exsistence of God not about correcting what im saying please tell me Why you belive there is no God. And you cant say i cant prove there is no God because you wouldnt belive something that rediculouse without any proof tell me facts not opinions. I should be able to get facts from you because beliving that ther is no God is all about facts and not about faith.