Debate on a issue

"Regardless of the numbers, It is unfair to let people work for little money. 2.5 is still a good portion of America." Again they are entry level skill jobs. As such their value is limited. Note nothing about no minimum wage asserts they will not be receiving those wages if the market value is set as such - it simply means the government cannot artificially set or raise that value. "I see that it in full, reviews the positive effects of aising the minimum wage." Eh no - it states "Doing so would help nearly 5 million poor workers" that's it. No details on how. Or the effects such an increase will have on their employers etc. "As I have said before an individuals productivity doesn't matter if no one else wants their work." That is a job market issue - not minimum wage - and minimum wage law is what is reduces the availability of jobs.:D "If their job s not difficult, though it may be physically hard, it is not valued, for anyone can do it." If it is physical labour then those of higher physical capacity will have more value in those jobs in a free market i.e. get paid more. Note the glaring issue - if the government sets the minimum wage let's say at $5.25 hr. An unskilled worker - who is typically more desperate for employment than a higher skilled worker - only has labour to sell that is worth $3.00 hr, then a minimum wage of $5.25 hr will stop him from selling his labour and he will not be able to be employed. Each increase in minimum wage increases the number of those whose productive worth falls below it to be unable to gain employment. "This is a problem because you get less money for working hard" So working less would get you paid more? Don't think so. "and upper jobs have more money, making the rich richer and the poor poorer." "upper" jobs have higher skill requirements, the production of the employers has more productive worth to the employer, naturally they are compensated higher as a result. Again, if someone wants to become competitive in a different job, it is up to the individual to acquire the necessary skills - not for the government to artificially try to raise ones worth. "First off those quoted in the article are highly regarded bussiness profesionals." Appeal to authority. "Second If the wage is higher, customers can afford more, helping business, and thus, justifying the cost." No. Cost of production has increased due to wage increases. Profit is less - to compensate the cost of the product increases or the business risks going under. It's hard to stimulate the economy with no job. "Yes, but it is not much value, as the skill is not specialized, so minimum wage keeps them from beig paid very little." Ugh. See the problem. You admit they have little worth and want them paid not to their value. Again, nothing about no minimum wage law states that those workers will not receive the same wage. It may also be lower. It would depend on the market value for that job. If they wanted more money they could get skilled and try elsewhere. "If you do not have the ability to raise your skill, with obstacles such as no college, homeless, and possibly a family, then how is it fair that you do a physically hard job, and barely get paid, because it seemingly doesn't have value." It has value to the employer. It has value because the job has competition with availability. Again if it's physically hard then some people will be more productive - of more worth - to the employer. The individual negotiates their worth -their value. Someone homeless will be compensated for the productive output they are capable of - that is all -education level does not stop one from obtaining skills to get higher paid employment to be in a position to later further ones education. Poor family planning is not a burden a business should pay for. "Factory workers are needed, thus there job has value, however most of the time they are paid little money, with no bbonuses related to productivity." Bonuses are a given? Fraid not. Note current union laws and the artificially set wage would stop them from negotiating better deals for themselves where bonuses would be a viable as a commodity between employer and employee. "Ok, that is a different debate. That could be what the government DOES, but it was meant to help the people." Then abolish minimum wage laws. :D "Yes, but if the job is not specialized the value is seemingly low. Regardless of the work." Yes. So they get paid accordingly. Remember it is the value to the job itself in relation to the employee- "regardless" is irrelevant. Non specialised skill jobs tend to be of less production value - hence the lower wages. "I simply meant wages from time to time need to be raised DUE TO inflation." Artificially raised wages in part is causal to the inflation - raising them higher simply compounds the problem later on.