The God of the Holy Bible is a Monster!

A self justifying god does not make the killing of 70,00 men okay, that is the point. The context does not make god out to be a loving god, it makes him out to be a monster. In your example story Bob is god and Tom is David. Bob made the factory with this lever, why? Perhaps Bob should have made a factory without the lever. Perhaps god should have done a better job of making things. Perhaps god should have chosen someone he knew wouldn't mess up, since he is all knowing. Christians don't want to blame god for this but he allows David to be his fall man so he can kill a bunch of people he is not happy with. One could also say that god uses Satan to do his dirty work as well. Perhaps now I can understand why this loving god allows Satan to reign upon earth, he is god's henchman! You stated that " many men apparently deserved the death penalty for crimes committed prior to David's census blunder". This is an assumption. Deuteronomy 3:6 The 60 cities and people destroyed. The CON stated : "A careful reading of the Bible text will show that that was NOT God's intention - it was to drive the occupants out of that land". Either way he destroyed everyone including children. It may not have been his intent but it was certainly what he decided to do. This does not help his position as a perfect loving god. Deuteronomy 3:3-7 3 "So the Lord our God also delivered into our hands Og king of Bashan, with all his people, and we attacked him until he had no survivors remaining. 4 And we took all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls, gates, and bars, besides a great many rural towns. 6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, UTTERLY DESTROYING THE MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN OF EVERY CITY. 7 But all the livestock and the spoil of the cities we took as booty for ourselves. (Emphasis mine) The CON: " Children were included because God can judge the adult version of the child before the child becomes an adult. " Perhaps god should of foreseen all these situations and found another way to deal with them. I mean he is all knowing, all powerful, and all loving right? The CON: " For example, suppose Hitler were a child, and a crazy person pointed out that the child is a genocidal maniac and should be put to death while the child is still an infant. Would that crazy person be a loveless monster? I don't think so. " No the crazy person would not be a loveless monster, in fact for this not to be done would be down right wrong! In fact it only proves my point. God did not kill Hitler as a child. So by your argument because god did not kill Hitler as a baby, GOD IS A LOVELESS MONSTER! The CON Said: "The picture we are given is of nations in possession of the land God had promised Israel, who were totally established in worshiping idols and all of the practices that went with that (e. g. sacrificing children). " It seems that god is in the habit of sacrificing children as well. Do you assume that the children and babies he killed worshiped idols? How do you justify god killing babies for the sins of others? CON: "Because mankind seems to be tainted with this tendency, it also spreads like a virus unless checked. If it is left unchecked, the moral direction of any society is downwards, as our own society is showing at the beginning of the twenty first century. " This is how the god of the bible has made us and then punishes us and kills children and allows other monsters (Hitler) to do the same. How does god keep us from this downward spiral today? If he killed today as he did in the Old Testament would you be okay with that? Since this is my last argument I would like to point out a few things: 1. The CON has not proved that god is not a monster for all the mass killing in the bible, although he has one more chance to do so. 2. The CON has not dealt with the slavery issue, the fact that god was okay with it and allowed it and gave guidelines for it is appalling and makes him a monster. He has not dealt with selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11). Child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 3. The CON has implied that god is a loveless monster for not killing Hitler while he was a child. Please pay close attention to the argument about Hitler, because the CON will most likely deny that he meant to imply this even if it is by default. Whether he meant it or not, it is true. God is a monster!