Time does not exist

Obviously you are very well educated and it's nice to see I will get a lot out of this debate. First, I recognize that time is not an object, because it's hard for something that doesn't exist to be anything. Humans have a habit of needing to name everything and have things orders, time is one example of this. I could argue that if we remove intelligent thought from the picture the concept of time leaves with it, but that would be silly because without intelligence we wouldn't be having this debate. But our memories are no real concept of time, when something occurs that moment has instantly past and there is no way of confidently re-creating it and that means there is no guarantee that it actually occurred. Just like there is no way we can guarantee what is going to happen next. This means our security and understanding of were we are, how we got there and were we are going is merely an illusion developed through assumptions. Just because we have named something doesn't mean it is real. What we observe is not time, it is motion. We follow the motion of all things happening in our lives, we follow the motion of the sun, the motion of cars, the motion of a hand on a clock, not time. Instead of looking at "time" as a straight line look at it as an instantaneous moment directly followed by another, each moment is basically a new universe created, the previous one doesn't exist and neither does the next. Time is perceived as a measurement between two moments (or two universes if you follow what I said above). A ruler measures the distance between two points in a similar way. On a ruler for example you have the start of it and the end of it. You can put your fingers on both ends as you are measuring something that is there. But like you said you can't move through time, you are measuring from one point that doesn't exist to another, you are measuring nothing. "what is the shortest distance between two points? A straight line, right? Wrong. " When you look at that theory, you are actually traveling the same distance and it is a straight line. The only difference is that you are skipping everything on the paper, it's still the same distance. That theory is the same as a man going to sleep at night and waking up in the morning, just because he doesn't remember experiencing what has happened since he went to sleep doesn't mean nothing happened. He hasn't traveled through time, he's just missed everything. Besides, time isn't a piece of paper, it is nothing, it's not a calendar or comic strip that you can look back and forth on. I decided not to listen to Choral Fourth Movement of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, sorry but I didn't have it on me… I get your picture though. The reason we hear the melody is simple, we have a mind that follows the motion and sound and collects information from each moment stringing it together to develop our experience or what we mistake as time. "If time did not exist, but other things in our reality remained the same, would anything CHANGE, and if so, how? Change only occurs over OVER TIME, or in time. " Just because time doesn't exist doesn't mean things like energy don't. The energy in this universe is what creates change and in turn a new moment. They follow on from each other, look at it in stages For example Man throws ball Ball goes through air Wind pushes ball to side Ball hits wall Ball bounces back Although there would be almost infinite new moments created in such an action this is an example. It is movement we follow not time. Each action is a new moment, each action is a new universe that's creation relied on the actions of the one before it, that is how change occurs.