IF there IS NO GOD HOW DO YOU TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG

that's why there is a God" I'm going to need to learn how you got from common ground to That is why God exists.. Please explain! "historically correct scientifically accurate and morally correct word for word chapter for chapter" An even bolder assertion! I'm going to need evidence for that as well! Especially the part where you said "scientifically accurate" You also made the assertion that it is morally correct without demonstrating the truth of that claim! Am I going to have to educate you about evolution by natural selection to prove my point? "if he leaves us to judge right from wrong then its chaos " That is assuming God exists! You need to prove the existence of God to make that claim. Otherwise we come to moral conclusions on our own! Hopefully you don't bring up Hitler or Stalin! "Hitler.. Stalin.. Pol Pot" That is called the Atheist Atrocities Fallacy! ""... I believe one thing: there is a Lord God! And this Lord God creates the peoples." ~Adolf Hitler https://richarddawkins.net... Wait!!! Back up!! Did you say Isis? You really need to explain that one! Now I think you are Trolling me a bit Then you said slavery.. Yup!! I think I'm being Trolled here! "I never said without God you would eat babies " Read it again! You said you will slit someone's throat if you did not have the bible to tell you not to.. I transferred it over to eating babies because you are hitting me with a classic theism argument.. Most people just say eat babies instead of slitting someone's throat because you got Killed in Call of Duty! It is just as ridiculous to say you need God to not slit someone's throat.. I truly hope that is not true and you are either going to extremes to prove your train wreck of a point or you are trolling me.. Which I think you are! You have hit me with ever single argument that has been refuted hundreds of times! Either you know that and are messing with me or you are seriously dusting off the bloated corpse of an idea and poisoning this debate with its rot! "if we feel like doing something no matter how bad it affects someone in the long run do it because there is o God"??? I'm sorry! You need to prove God exists for this argument to work! I'm the default position where morality is natural and without any requirement of a God or God's! You completely ignored my entire opening argument.. or are using selective ignorance to keep your argument afloat? I still think you are messing with me! " there is nobody who is better than you to tell you what to do with your life and the choices you make" Good! That is what I'm trying to say.. It is up to us.. You can follow commandments all you want! That has nothing to do with right or wrong it is simply "a dog who doesn't get up on the couch without even knowing why" Thanks to Tracy Harris for that one :) It is AMORAL!!! Some of the Bibles commandments are IMMORAL!!! You must address this! "You haven't showed me how the Bible isn't a good source of morality, you haven't showed me where in the it say that we can own another human being as property, or to force a woman to marry the man who raped her, or murder your child for being unruly show me where in the BIBLE God commanding us to do that" Muahahaha!! I'm glad you asked! Slavery: Leviticus 25:44-46, Exodus 21:7-11, Exodus 21:20-21, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, Luke 12:47-48 Rape: Judges 21:10-24, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, 2 Samuel 12:11-14, Deuteronomy 21:10-14, Judges 5:30 "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her."- Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever." Exodus 21-2-6 You have a lot of work ahead of you! My bet is it will be tough to reconcile your own morality with your God's! You do not realize.. You are better than your God! 1. Who am I 2.What am I worth 3.Why am I here 4,And where do I go when I die 1. That is a vague question! It can be answered in countless ways! Saying your name is learned behavior because know one is actually trying to get down to the existential meaning of who you are.. They just want to know your name! 2. Same conclusion! Soooo many different ways to answer it! You pointed to money even though we both know you meant purpose or meaning in life! We are the beholders of all purpose and all meaning! It does not exist outside a functioning brain! I know you want absolutes! Unfortunately we are not the beholder of absolutes! That you claim is God's Job! However you have failed to prove God exists or that he is even moral! 3. I'm going to lump this in with meaning and purpose! 4. Who said Nowhere? That is a bold assertion and I would need proof of that as well! The appropriate answer is: I DO NOT KNOW! Its pretty easy to admit and you do not end up looking silly trying to pretend to know answers that you could not possibly know.. Unless you have some evidence perhaps?? The Bible is not evidence " God created us he loves us but if we want to disobey him he will allow us but one day we will be punished for our wrong doings that's justice" You believe that Hell is that punishment? What is Hell.. In your belief? I find that to be horrifyingly immoral but you seem to be ok with God's plan.. So tell me.. What are you ok with.. That I will experience Eternal torture"? Doesn't that make God.. Worse than me? I would never do that to anyone.. especially those I claim to love! I began a debate a year ago about the repulsiveness of Abraham's God and the Christian religion! Perhaps I will have to just flat out show you that the Book you read is vile and should be seen as Fiction only! To do otherwise is madness ;) "p's how do you tell right from wrong if there is no God and how is the Holy Bible immoral." Look familiar?.... Ultimately morality is about well being. Whenever you come to a moral dilemma. It means that in order for someone to be well off, someone else needs to make a sacrifice! I have to assure you that I reject the bible and any concept of God as my authority.. Yet I do not eat babies! Where does my morality come from? Why do you need to be commanded to be "Good or bad"? I follow no commandment and somehow maintain a moral lifestyle! By evaluating any given situation we can maximize our well being while knowing that the well being of others benefits us all! Add a little empathy and compassion.. Bamm!! You have your system of morality that is completely independent from ever needing to be told to be "Good" The fact that you think you would slit someone's throat means you do not understand morality or that you should definitely keep reading your bible if that helps you keep the demons at bay! I will be over here.. being a good person without anyone forcing me! If I'm a violent person I should expect to get hurt! If I am disrespectful to others they will be disrespectful to me! This is just an example of natural systems working to help me make a better judgement when evaluation a situation! They also have a law and justice..