Four contradictions about Jesus...

The Con CONCEDES to arguments 1 and 2. "These are minor errors. The Bible was inspired by a perfect God but was passed down by fallible humans, so it's NOT inerrant, but it doesn't include enough or important enough errors for it to not be able to be the infallible word of God. Even though it's got errors here and there, God still made sure it is sufficient to provide the way to salvation. Since people are fallible beings, it is almost impossible for us to completely made no errors in translating the Bible. But still, God guided us in such a way that nothing important was lost." a) It is strange that a PERFECT God could not work around the said fallibility of humans. b) The Con proves my case by stating that the Bible is not inerrant, which concludes the Bible is not inspired. c) Notice the logical fallacy that God made sure the message was preserved but could not preserve its errors from occurring. d) If one admits the bible has errors in any scope, then who is to say that it doesn't have errors in things that are considered important. e) A perfect God would make sure that man had his word unaltered. The confusion of man and God's supposed word is a result in [a] 40,000 denominations. f) Both the genealogies of Matthew and Luke show that Joseph was a direct descendant of King David. But if Joseph is not Jesus' father, then Joseph's genealogies are meaningless as far as Jesus is concerned, and one has to wonder why Matthew and Luke included them in their gospels. g) The Con concedes to the donkey story as being an error, so I will not elaborate on it further. Point 3. CON: "The part of who find the tomb is minor, so if there were errors in one or two characters it probably won't do much to alter the whole story; as for the second part about who they saw- The first two verses was the same person described differently, the third was most likely a representation of the triune nature of God, except maybe minus the unseen Holy Spirit. The fourth one most likely went faster paced, skipped the angel part, and went on to say that they saw Jesus's body was gone." a) This is not minor and they are significantly different. They do not agree at all, you cannot just brush off all the arguments by claiming that they are minor in error. 1)According to Matthew 28:1, only "Mary Magdalene and the other Mary." 2) According to Mark 16:1, "Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome." 3) According to Luke 23:55, 24:1 and 24:10, "the women who had come with him out of Galilee." Among these women were "Mary Magdalene and Joanna and Mary the mother of James." Luke indicates in verse 24:10 that there were at least two others. 4) According to John 20:1-4, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb alone, saw the stone removed, ran to find Peter, and returned to the tomb with Peter and another disciple. What did they find at the tomb? 1) Matthew 28:2-4 An angel of the Lord with an appearance like lightning was sitting on the stone that had been rolled away. 2) Mark 16:5 A young man in white a white rob was in the tomb. 3) Luke 24:4 Two men in dazzling apparel. 4) John 20:18 Just an empty tomb and some wrappings. a) The basis of Christianity is the supposed factual truths about Christ's death burial and resurrection, so if there are errors surrounding Jesus, how can any believe anything it says about salvation? Point 4: CON: " Mark 13:30- Jesus was talking about seeing the world coming to the end ages, not the end itself, that will happen during their generation." My response: Jesus said ALL these things, with in the context that would include ALL these things. Mark 13:30 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. What things did Jesus talk about in the context? 24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; " 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven." This never happened in there generation. CON: "Matthew 10:23- Jesus most likely meant more generally as "you won't be overtaken by your persecutors." My response: That is your interpretation. Matt. 10: 23 "When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes." So then what does Jesus mean when he says before the son of man comes? CON: " Matthew 16:28- What Jesus was talking about was the transfiguration; it is a preliminary fulfillment of the second coming, something not at all uncommon in biblical prophecy." My response: It sounds more like he is talking about his second coming. 28 "Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." Did Jesus come in his kingdom on the mount of transfiguration, I don't think so? CON: " Matthew 24:34- Again, this is talking about the beginning of end times happening, not the end itself, Luke 21:32- Same thing, it's the end times not the end itself." My response: 32 "Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it[a] is near"at the doors! 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away." Notice that Jesus says to them, when you see ALL these things, know that it is near. This generation will by no means pass away till ALL these things take place. ALL these thing encompasses everything Jesus just referred too, which includes verses 29-31; 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Luke 21:32 has an interesting point on some of the things that would happen along with Jesus coming in the clouds that the generation Jesus is speaking to would see. The destruction of the temple which happened in 70 a.d., yet no Jesus returned. 20 "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. The CON makes some arguments that I will deal with now. CON: "The Bible is one of the most accurate ancient books..." a) Yet the CON admits it has errors. b) Before I offer any proofs of its lack of historical validity, I would like the Con to prove his statement. CON: " ...and it is written by several different authors at different times about similar things, and has several fulfilled prophecies" a) Several different authors in whom we know nothing about. b) " In the end, it seems unlikely that the uneducated, lower-class, illiterate disciples of Jesus played the decisive role in the literary compositions that have come down through history under their names." [b] Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Bart D. Ehrman c) The CON needs to give some examples of "Fulfilled Prophecies". CON: " It contains the word of God, who purchased lost humanity back to him, and the only thing man has to do is accept." a) God became a man so he could have himself killed to appease himself so people could believe in him so that he would not send us to hell? This makes no sense, also think about this, was there really ever a sacrifice? If Jesus is alive sitting at the right hand of the father then did God really lose anything? It was not really a sacrifice unless he is dead and stays dead. b) Actually the Bible says we have to do more than just accept. CON: "... because of his mercy" a)The God of the Bible is not merciful by any means, have you read the whole thing? Slavery, mass killings, baby killing, using Satan to torment people, commanding the death of homosexuals, and so on and so on. CON: "An infinite almighty, omnipresent, omniscient, all-loving, perfectly just, and creator God." a) As seen above God of the Bible is far from this, and I didn't even list all the monstrosities that Christian ignore or try to explain away. Conclusion: The CON admits Bible error, but advocates inspiration, which is illogical when claiming a perfect God. The Con's God is not all powerful, all loving, and all knowing, because if he was then the Bible would not be the source of confusion which results in division. An all powerful God could see to it that his important word to mankind would be preserved perfectly. The Bible bears no mark of inspiration of the Highest intelligent being possible. [a] http://christianity.about.com... [b] Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Bart D. Ehrman