Abortion is not a woman's right

I did not assume that you would make that argument, as you say I did. In fact, I mentioned exactly that: "I don't expect this argument from my opponent". I actually did not expect it from you, however, I said it to get that argument covered. I have seen too many debates here that I have read and always notice people miss some information that makes me as a reader cringe. I did not want to disappoint any reader. Now, to one your points in the original argument: when do we determine life begins? This is similar to when do we call Earth Earth, as it took billions of years for it to form in to what we know it as today. When life begins is really up to one's own personal view. I say life began a few billion years ago, and it's a continuous cycle. Normally people on the opposite side of my position say that life starts at conception. I will go a step further and say that life started even before. Does a living being form? No, but life is still there. The reason for my blood drive comparison is that you are stopping a life from continuing, or at least contributing to it. If you have something that someone else can use, and you refuse to give it to them, no, you're not really killing them yourself, but your allowing the dying process to continue or at least contributing to it. The same way if you don't pay your taxes, you're not taking anything away from the government, but you're not aiding the government even though you could have. Another thing is, women do involuntarily abort embryos all the time. 80% of the time a sperm fertilizes an egg, the egg is flushed out do to the natural cycle of woman's reproductive organs (http://www.unc.edu...) Because she naturally killed it makes it okay? People naturally secrete feces from their bodies all the time, even food working employees, and sometimes they fail to cleanse their hands, and the food is contaminated, and if the proper medical treatment isn't sought by the consumer, the consumer dies. Natural processes killed that person. Why does that person's family get compensated for their loss, but not family of the fertilized egg? No, not a direct and probably not even the best of comparisons, but at what point is it okay/acceptable for a natural occurrence to kill someone? Why is it okay at some points and not another? Because a fertilized egg being released is not something that can be stopped and it's natural? Yes, it's natural. No, it can be stopped. Try to make the child more than 12 days before the woman's next menstruation. If there is something you can do about, then do it. To say a woman is justified having unprotected sex 12 days before her menstruation period, knowing it will fertilize an egg and knowing it is possible for it to be released is the same as justifying her taking a life. Now, does a fertilize egg always get released between 0-12 days before a woman's period? No, it does not, but you're still taking a chance. Does E Coli from fecal matter always kill a person? No, it does not, but you're still taking a chance. Is suicide ever justifiable? Why, putting an animal to sleep to stop it's pain is. People are practicing suicide in first world countries around the world to stop pain and/or they have a fatal irreversible disease. Is justifiable? Well, that's a debate all on it's own, but let's say it is. What if a woman never planned to have a child, and planned to just live her life recklessly forever, and is raped and an egg is fertilized? Or even not raped, and just stupid enough to have unprotected sex and an egg is fertilized. The doctor, this far ahead of time, has evidence to show that this egg can grow in to a fatal problem for the mother. Is it not the woman's right to choose to have her life saved? If it's a battle for life, then the mother has the right to choose, being the mother, the provider, and the permission granter of the child to live off of her body parts, going through a struggle without this fatal problem, because being pregnant is a struggle, and unless you are a woman, do not even think about saying it's not, she has every right to choose who is going to make it through this. I would like to jump back to a point made by my opponent, how nothing is being taken away from the woman's body from an embryo or a fetus. Not quite, but it is still wrong to live off of someone else like that. Saying you will give it back grants you no right to go in to my wallet and take fifty dollars out of my wallet without permission. Again, regardless of what it will do for you, and regardless of me not needing it, and regardless of you paying it back, you are never allowed to do so. Doesn't matter if you need it to make rent, need it to get food, need it to pay for a doctor's appointment that will save your life, it is still unjustified. Is that a matter of life and death? No, but it is still someone living off of someone else without their permission. And you don't even need a reason to deny permission. You just have to deny it. That is your right as a human being.