Minarchy(Pro) vs. Anarchy(Con)

"So you withdraw your sarcasm about preventing force by implementing force. " They are two entirely different kinds of force. The force you seek is to take control away from someone over their own property. The one that I do, which shouldn't be called force at all because it is the exact opposite, is the force to keep ones control over their property, it is freedom. "And criminals may operate on a smaller scale, but there are more of them" The majority of criminals don't kill people, which is what was being referred to. That is if government officials aren't being considered criminals. "How do you intend to enforce it against the competing government that says "nuh uh? " By establishing a monopoly to push them out no doubt. " The only "enforcing" being done is that within an individual property, acting towards the owners will for it, or a group of properties that individually entered into voluntary contract with one another. Again, they work as if very many small nations. "Which requires reference to a supreme law by a supreme lawmaker who determines what constitutes property which is only coherent in the context of MONOPOLY. " The supreme lawmaker is the land-owner. The only monopoly he has is over the laws of his own land, which can hardly be called a monopoly. "disputes over properties. " Do you think a property dispute can be better settled by some impersonal judge or on a local level? "No, it wasn't. There was only one nation ever involved. One of the parties wanted to change that. It just so happens they failed. " USA had a president, CSA had a president, they were two different governments. "See also 'Nam. " And why were we there? Can you think of any war that wasn't either about money, freedom or both? And on a local level, money would have even more to play a part in who wins. "No, but it gives us the fact that the property is ENFORCED. " What you seek is something that both enforces and also abuses property rights. What I seek is one that only does the former. As a former Minarchist, it was hard to come to that conclusion but I have over time come to see that it is indeed possible. "Furthermore, a field of jurisdiction is an extension of the government to exactly the same extent a field of broadcast spectrum is an extension of the broadcaster or a field of soil is an extension of the farmer. " A broadcast spectrum and soil are both physical unlike the concept of jurisdiction. Why not take your rationality further? If you can have ownership over jurisdiction, not only of yourself but of the entire concept, then why can't you own the entire concept of happiness as well, or love, or any other mental construct? Intellectual property does not exist. Further more, it's enforcement is not beneficial to society. The free-market relies on open access to advancement, it is always trying to make things better for the sake of profit. If someone has a monopoly over an idea than they are hindering the progression of society, cutting short it's advancement. Copyright laws cause only frustration for the consumer. Now for a few more things I'd like to point out in my last argument. Expansion of government: Hasn't history shown us that even the smallest of governments have the tendency to grow? What makes you think yours will be any different? An argument between a Totalitarian and a Minarchist is one between an oak tree and an acorn, ultimately they are both the same thing, one just hasn't quite gotten there yet. Corrupt judges: What is it exactly that makes you place so much faith in your leaders? Where is it you will find these perfect beings to run your country? If you place your livelihood on the bet that they will maintain their integrity than you are one sad little fool. These judges will not for long hold to principle in defending property only how you see fit, they will eventually see the opportunities to further their own interest and they will take it. It's human nature and you can count on it. My system seeks to work with human nature rather than ever so much trying to work around it.