Communism

Point 1: Totalitarian Government and Communism. Russia- Russia may have had very low crime rates when it was Communist, but how do you explain the 20 million people that died in the 1930s due to Stalin's purges? How do you explain the millions that died in the gulag? How do you explain the millions of others that died? That should be counted as crime, only it can't be prosecuted. Not to mention, they are getting more Communist. "United Russia went from 315 seats in the national parliament to 238, meaning it no longer has a lock on making amendments to the constitution without asking the old Communist Party and the anti-immigrant Liberal Democrats for support. The biggest winner of the night was the Communist Party, going from 57 seats to 92. The ousting of United Russia legislators is a essentially in spite of Putin, the country's Prime Minister and United Russia's chosen one to lead the country, again, in 2012."[1] China- Yes, China has a Capitalist economy. But they have a Communistic Government. "For example, just about every Chinese bank is state-owned, so the government decides which businesses and individuals will get the most favorable loans. The domestic media are entirely state-owned as well and offer uniformly favorable political coverage. Perhaps the biggest vestige of classical communism is the fact that every square inch of land in the country still belongs to the government. (People and businesses can own houses and other property. Politically, China is as Communist as ever."[2] North Korea- Yes, North Korea does have an imperial government, but it is communist. "North Korea has a centralized government under the rigid control of the communist Korean Workers' Party (KWP), to which all government officials belong."[3] North Korea is the most Communistic Government in the world. Cuba- Cuba definitely does not have a Communistic Government. They are Communist. "Fidel exercised control over virtually all aspects of Cuban life through the Communist Party and its affiliated mass organisations, the government bureaucracy and the state security apparatus."[4] Vietnam- The US intervened and almost fixed the problems. All my opponent has done in his contentions is make crazy statements like North Korea and Cuba are not Communist. He has basically refuted nothing since his arguments are wrong. Point 1: Early USSR and Stalin. I- "the first of three famines that Ukraine's population has suffered under the Soviet Communist regime, and a famine that, contrary to popular belief, was not caused by drought and crop failures, but by the policies of the Soviet state."[5] The policies of Communist Russia caused the famine because they were taking away the grain and re-distributing it. And Stalin did not even try to help the famine and had to rely on foreign aid. II- So you are saying that it is ok to take people's farmed grain away and allow them to starve in order to statisfy their territorial hunger? Nazi Germany was not a problem until 1939, 15 years after the famine so they could not be a cause, but even if they were, that does not mean that you should force your citizens into hunger. And what do you mean that they improved the country by 100 years? Communism forced them back not forward. III- What? Is this an argument? Anyway, Stalin's purges killed 20 millions just in the 1930s. That is a consequence of Communism. Debate that. IV- High taxes are bad because they ruin the economy, increase unemployment, and decrease GDP Growth. And like you said, these taxes go to pay state-run health care, police forces, courts, military, airports, and national defense. Now when it comes to national defense and the police, this should still be state-run, but social programs like roads, education, and alcohol control should be privatized and national healthcare, unemployment benefits, and welfare shouldn't even exist. Point 3: I- What do you mean by "Of course the is economic problems, there is none!"? Isn't that a contradiction? A country can be bad and be a superpower. Look at the USSR. It's economy was in ruins, it's people lived in extreme poverty and constant fear, and there was a totalitarian Government. II- Personal wealth does not create homelessness. "If homelessness is a product of capitalism then why was there so much homelessness in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and Communist China? Homelessness is the product of change and the inability to adapt to those changes. Communism and socialism are far more destructive to the masses than capitalism will ever be."[6] And even if it did, personal wealth adds to GDP Growth and decreases unemployment so it helps everyone in the end. And yes, there were millions of homeless people in the USSR, "In fact, there are homeless people in the USSR. They can be found in abandoned houses, cellars, coal bins, and garbage dumps, around railway stations, or in special detention centers run by the uniformed police of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD)."[7] Point 4: USA. I- Vietnam and Korea were the US's attempt to stop the destructive march of Communism in Asia. It is the US's business when Communism starts trying to take over the world. That is a real threatening reason. If we had let the countries deal with it, they would have become Communist. And the only reason that we did not win Korea and Vietnam is because the Government stuck it's butt in the military's business. We would have won if the Military were left to their own devices. II- Cuba's economy could grow if it wasn't Communist. If it wasn't Communist it wouldn't have trade embargos on it and the economy would be able to grow. Chile is just a economy that can grow. Conclusion: My opponent has basically made either bad arguments or factually wrong argument. I have debunked all of his argument. And Communism=No freedom. Now that's ironic. Question to my opponent: You have sources but no quotes or citations. What are the sources for? Sources: [1]:http://www.forbes.com... [2]:http://www.slate.com... [3]:http://www.state.gov... [4]:http://news.bbc.co.uk... [5]:http://www.ukrweekly.com... [6]:http://www.christianriver.org... [7]:http://www.csmonitor.com...