LM Classic: Logical-Master vs Mongoose

1. Master Hand has no reason to need oxygen. It's a giant hand. No lungs or anything. He clearly doesn't need it. Ganondorf has existed in the Sacred Realm. There isn't oxygen there. He has also existed as twilight particles, which wouldn't need oxygen. Also, it seems that the rules never say anything about nothing else existing outside of New York City, so anything referring to such is pointless. I was simply arguing about life form's existence, as it was less certain. 2.a. Let's assume that he is Heartless. That doesn't mean that the keyblade can defeat him. If he is Heartless, then we can assume that his evil minions are Heartless. They can be killed without the Master Sword. Ganondorf can't. His immunity to being killed by anything besides the Master Sword would extend to protect him from the keyblade. It wouldn't be able to kill him. b. http://dictionary.reference.com... teleport: to transport (a body) by telekinesis. Clearly this can mean that the one initiating the teleportation is also "teleporting" in the sense that he is teleporting the other people away, thus doing such is against the rules, and Team L-M can't do it. c. The boom tube involves travelling between dimensions. New York City is not in between dimensions, thus using the boom tube would be teleporting outside of New York City. http://en.wikipedia.org.... Sora may be able to bypass sealed interiors, but this not a barrier keeping them out, but in. It is a different concept, which would be completely different. d. I didn't drop c, I merely tried a different approach to counter it. If the aforementioned plans don't work, he could transform into his god-like form and ultimately destroy Batman. Also, it seems that Amazo can only copy mutants: "Each version of Amazo has differences, but all utilize "absorption cells" to duplicate the powers of any metahuman encountered". http://en.wikipedia.org... This would not include Ganondorf and his magical abilities, as they are not mutations. This means that his copying powers have no effect on anybody on my team besides Apocalypse, as they are not mutants. 3. a. If you look at the first picture of Master Hand that I have provided, it is clear that he can go through the ground and fire bullets from his fingertips at the same time. bd. All that does is show that this Nobody person can block everything else. This could just mean that all of the other spells are incredibly weak. It's not comparable to Master Hand. There is nothing saying anything about how this Magnet spell works. It just uses "Darkness." As nothing else moves Master Hand, I don't see why this would. Does this Magnet bring the walls of rooms crashing inwards? I don't think so. c. Master Hand is obviously immune to gravity, as he floats with ease. It just doesn't affect him. Vacuums don't affect him either. http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com... None of these affect Master Hand. e. Master Hand then outlasts Team L-M. After 5 minutes, Team L-M mysteriously dies. 4. Apocalypse could alter his body to copy the invincible Statue of Liberty, making him indestructible. He could then make thousands of machine guns protrude from her head, and fire at Team L-M. MY AWESOME STRATEGIES 1. The fact that he knew he would be in danger would be more of a gut thing, as Gibbs does. I want to see a source as to how he could instantly find him and Force Choke him, as knowing what is happening is completely different than altering it. Watching a TV, you can know things in an instant, but you are powerless to do anything about it in that instant. Agent K would start out wearing his alien-technology sunglasses, as that is what he usually wears. He would not be able to prevent it from erasing the minds of his teammates, and there is no "non-UFO memory" or anything. All he's have to do would be to press the button. http://starwars.wikia.com... Force Choke is only fatal if prolonged. K would still have time to press the button. Ganondorf could transform into Twilight Particles and warp to a position where he is already pressing the button. Covering one's eyes doesn't help for the Statue of Liberty one. It affected everybody in New York City, even the people who didn't see it. It would also reach the sewers. 2. Yeah, power of evil was a general term for "he is evil and powerful." It's more of power of the Triforce of Power, which would be a match for the Force. http://zelda.wikia.com... It is not "feeble." 3. Sadly, Gibbs is pretty much dead. Seems there isn't much for a mortal to do. I've shown why Ganondorf's barrier is amazing. Teleporting obviously requires going outside of the dimension, as it is going from Point A to Point B without going anywhere between Point A and Point B. That is all. I do not reserve the right to create new arguments on the last round. Good luck.