"More people have died in the name of god than for any other reason." George Carlin

Seasoned beatings. Whooopppsss. I meant to say greetings. Yeah. that’s it. A deliberate miss-steak on my part. I know, hurl a brick shipyard at my innards so I can heave a runny babbit into a can a can of fake dog poop. Now let’s see if you are intelligent enough to carry-on with a meaningful intelligent and slightly sarcastic, because I am very sarcastic, debate. Let’s see where you go… and right off the bat you run into extreme trouble. I never mentioned the bible, did I? Nope. Its George Carlin that did. In fact if god were a true god, in no way, shape or form would he ever communicate in text form, the worst form of communication possible, so that right there proves that your god is not a god at all, but more or less a trampoline factory. “If god is all knowing and he knows the future of all events and he wrote a book that can only be interpreted as if it endorses slavery and if its heinous violence against your children against your neighbors… how could a god be that omnipotent and devise a book where we can’t distinguish between the law of Israel and god’s law? I mean their interwoven where we have metaphor and fact and nobody can distinguish the two. We don’t know what we’re supposed to take figuratively. We don’t know what we’re supposed to take literally. Was it actually a tree? I mean come on. How can anyone distinguish this. I mean come on. It doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t matter how its translated. It doesn’t matter what version. If it was written by an omnipotent being there would be ONE VERSION. And there would be only ONE WAY to interpret it because it would be written well.” Aron Ra Actually it wouldn’t be written at all. What’s wrong with your god comin’ down and talking to people? ‘Hey you know some of that stuff that’s in the book? I’m here to correct it.” Matt Dillahunty “We have to rely on copies of copies of anonymous authors with no originals and the textural testimony to a miracle for example, there’s no amount of reports, anecdotal reports that is sufficient to justify in believing that actually happened as reported. And anything that would qualify as a god would clearly understand this and if it wanted to clearly convey this to people in a way that is believable would not be relying on ---TEXT--- to do so. And this to me is the nail in the coffin for christianity. The god that christians believe in is amazingly ---STUPID---!!! If it actually wants to achieve its goal by spreading its word to humanity by relying on text, by relying on languages that die off, by relying on anecdotal testimony, that’s not a pathway to truth. And anything that would qualify for a god would know this.which shows either god does not exist or doesn’t care enough about the people to understand the nature of evidence to actually present it. Now which of those two possibilities is accurate?” Matt Dillahunty So getting into YOUR argument, actually it is many priests, pastors, saints, ministers that in fact do teach the fires and torments of hell. Interpretation is a funny thing isn’t it? Do you know who Hong Xiuquan was? Probably not - correct? Look him up for a truly great human being. Your god created him for hell on earth a well as he created Hitler - a devout christian, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, all serial killers, all rapists, all torturers, all pedophiles etc etc etc. “Hell is not a "place", at least not in the same way as we experience matter and space in the universe.” Well no duh. You do realize that you cannot lecture me because it rather clear that you do not know your bible well enough. Also, God does not send you to hell if you disobey Him.” No he does much worse. He murders you. Deuteronomy 13: 9-10 He hates gays, murders them with stones. If you curse at your parents, its death. As the matter of fact 9 of the 10 commandments if broken warrants death. Breaking the sabbath is very special in which your christ was granted a leisurely pass proving he’s not the savior as he broke many of your god’s laws rules and regulations in which required death. So which is worse… hell or death? Hey hell as described in the OT and as described in the NT are 2 completely different things. So was god. Then you mention “sinning”. Do you really think you know what you are talking about? Really? There really is no such thing as sinning in YOUR bible because its so utterly abstract and so complacent and utterly confusing because one verse says one thing and then another verse says completely another. Does every man sin? Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8)“If you try to get clarification, if you try to get what the christian orthodox view is on the law, you're not going to find consensus. You’re not going to find christians ‘oh here’s what christians think about’ they’re all going to have this concept of this different thing now. But as far as it applies and why and what to do with it, they’re all different. Its going to be a hard argument because most have different ideas about it and most are going to change their ideas and start tweeking them as soon as they have to start answering questions because they haven’t looked into it before most of them.” Tracie Harris “If God is all-good,” Well god isn’t all good now is he? Nope. He after all creates every single man woman and child especially for daddy to KNOWINGLY rape, beat and torture his own daughter. Oh but wait, your god created satan as well. So how on earth is god all “good”. Oh but wait, your god created the bubonic plague, hurricane Harvey, every single child that goes to bed hungry, he hates children,creates massive genocides, loves raped women, hates gays, hates women, hey over 2/3’s the planet’s population. “something God wouldn't do if He truly loves you” Its called “power” which this book of yours is in love with. Then comes fear and then comes control. Oh and oh yeah. Gee. I almost forgot. You can’t even prove that your god exists. .Secondly, in the excerpt from George Carlin..."This is flat out wrong.” No its not. Again, you cannot even prove that YOUR god exists. So you therefore have no definition of what your god is. Nor can you speak for others. What you have stated is an utterly teeny bopper answer. Now of you were to have actually watched the skit, you would have heard an uproar iris genuine (which is something that there’;s nothing from your so-called god) laughter from the crowd when George mentioned “but he loves you” because its such a true MAJOR hypocritical contradiction in which your bible is lock and load super shotgun on with at least 1,000 of them making it truly unreadable. But as previously stated, no god would ever communicate in text form. “As Catholics we believe that God exists as existence itself…” Well that is the first sensible thing you’ve said. I agree. Even though billions of catholics may disagree because you really shouldn’t speak for them. Because you may never know how they feel. They may say that your unproved god exists beyond space and time into different universes as examples. You shouldn’t speak for others in other words. “God is all good,...” well you were proven 100% wrong.” all powerful, eternal, all knowing, etc.” show me where, and what hint does the bible say this and why should you believe it? Oh I get it. The bible says so. Great! Show me where. AND who printed it. Now show me why satan is evil and bad. After all he only has 10 verses. Your god murdered 2,821,364 in HIS bible which most assuredly would have had to have included babies still suckling on their mothers nipples. It would have included pregnant mothers. So much goes for you christians believing that abortions are evil. Talk about being completely hypocritical. Oh and oh yeah since your god murders babies and children and everyone and everything else as he did in the great flood, which never happened btw, this also makes him a contradictory hypocrite. Thou shalt not kill. Remember that one? My how you christians forget so easily. So do NOT tell me your god is all good you complete contradictory hypocrite. “Also keep in mind that the "acts" God does in the Old Testament are not necessarily literally true. The books of the Old Testament are not an account of history,” Well then you do not believe in your god. Its that simple. Then the same thing, according to you can be stated about the NT because the memory is the least reliable source there is. You do not believe in creation. You do not believe in adam and eve, you do not believe in noah, you do not believe in the great flood,. You do not believe in moses, you do not believe in exodus, you do not believe in the 10 commandments, you do not believe in the 10 plagues, you do not believe in Sodom and Gomorrah etc etc etc. You in fact do not believe in any of it. Awe no, either you believe in all of it, or you believe in none of it. You cannot make up things as you go along. There’s no consensus as Tracie Harris has stated. How can you possibly communicate with each other and get along with each other? Indeed George Carlin is right “More people have died in the name of god than for any other reason.” So god is all good? Try guessing again.. “The point of the book is to teach people to trust in God and follow his plan.” You nor anybody knows what god’s plan is because there’s no consensus. You just proved it. Billions of christians will absolutely take in the OT as being hard fact. Who are you to say “no”?