obama's got enough experience

figured this should be addressed in its own thread. since it's important. onea those "obama's a a nazi, the antichrist, a muslim in kahoots with bin laden" things that need addressed. well, the argument about experience has some merit more than that, but definitely not as much as most people think. 1. Theodore Roosevelt (42) 2. John F. Kennedy (43) 3. Bill Clinton (46) 4. Ulysses S. Grant (46) 5. Grover Cleveland (47) 6. Franklin Pierce (48) 7. James A. Garfield (49) 8. James K. Polk (49) 9. Millard Fillmore (50) 10. John Tyler (51) first to dispell a myth, obama's not the yongest ever etc. here's the ten youngest presidents. obama's not even in the top five. and close to even the tenth in years. as far as age goes, he's old enough, not just techincally legally, but for practical purposes too. put smarts in there for fast learner etc, he's surely just as good as number 11 etc. for example, for experience,,, he's been in politics just as long as clinton was, and no one complained about him. not that they couldn't have,,, but just making the point that this who issue is probably just media rhetoric that they want you to argue for them. he's older than clinton was. he's done more things than clinton has. obama legislator, clinton governor,,, both have pros and cons and neither is really much better than the other in terms of which is a bette rpsotion. then you have people like arnold swartzennegger. a lot of people consider him doing well,, and he had no experience. not completley anaologous, like not president etc, but it makes the point. to insist on experience given what obama's done,, is probably just insisting on someone older,,, older for the sake of older cause that's the only way you could get more experience. can't expect much more from obama given his age. (i mean you could but it wouldn't be very realistic,,, and not that we shouldn't expect more, but just saying that it's totally reasonable what experience he has, an A or A-... maybe not an A+, in terms of raw experience anyways for his age) obama's weak point is the military and international law. he does have a lot of politicans and former presidents beat right off the bat though, cause he specialized in international law at harvard law. there's surely someone better out there, concedely. but, when his competition is pretty much just mccain,,, and you consider the things i said in that mccain war thread*,,, obama's got him beat just in terms of making good decisions or at least not making bad ones like mccain. also... most presidents in the past, consider well beyond reagan,,, had no international or military experience. or not much. i can see insisting on someone better for president in today's global climate that wouldn't be neeed as much back int hte day for past presidents,,, but, you'd have to concede that they were all unqualified for president too, today, if they were running. bush I bush II clinton reagan carter ford nixon kennedy etc etc. so for domestic stuff,, if all those other presidents were good,, then obama's surely good. for military etc,,, most people i've shown probably don't have a problem with it even if they say they do, cause they wouldn't for most presidents but only do cause the media tells them to. at any rate, obama's got the compeition that matters beat, ie mccain. now, if you dont think he's got the competition beat,,, and/or you'd concede that the past presidents were unqualified for today's presidency,,, (maybe if you thought domestically you could have someone better, and A+ instead of an A or A- like obama, in experience for the age, or you just want more age by experience) then, and only then, would you have a position that i'd think is respectable and not just media zombie spouting off about a lack of inexperience. --------------------------- incidental points *some stuff we should be weary of from mccain: QUOTE McCain... called Putin "a totalitarian dictator" and famously said he looked into his eyes and saw three letters "K, G and B," ++++ all the saber rattling he's been doing with russia, even though it's acomplicated situation yet he's blaming them etc. QUOTE "bomb, bomb, bomb iran" QUOTE The most frightening example of McCain's fondness for force is on display in his own book, Faith of My Fathers, when he complains about the politicians who refused to allow pilots like him to attack, say, Soviet ships unloading arms in Vietnamese port cities. "We thought our civilian commanders were complete idiots," he writes. Bombing Soviet ships, of course, would probably have started World War III, but McCain's vision, then and now, encompasses war as a way of life. QUOTE give a brief smorgasbord of his views: at a recent rally, he sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran," to the tune of the Beach Boys' "Barbara Ann". He says North Korea should be threatened with "extinction". QUOTE he said war is good to put hair on your chest QUOTE mccain wanted to stay in vietnam... even though the vietnamis then and now have said they would have fought till everyone of them were dead. and most people take as given that the only way that war was going to end, is to leave.