Is god real

Thanks, I’m assuming BOP is on Pro. Pro presents the fine tuning argument, well sort of. Pro states if the Universe was just a tad bit different, it wouldn’t exist. However, this is an ipse dixit A.K.A the bare assertion fallacy [http://fallacies.findthedata.org...]. Pro has not given a shred of evidence to support this claim, not a single source. He then asks, why was the Universe constructed this way, then concludes a God must have done it This is linked to the past statement, which hasn’t been proven. So, his entire argument, as of now, is completely unsourced and unproven. Even assuming that his argument is complete; this argument assumes life can only exist in this carbon based form. Why assume this? Why can’t different types of life exist if the Universe was different? Explanations There can be other natural explanations for a fine tuned universe, if it exists. A multiverse can explain a fine tuned universe. Instead of thinking of the fine tuning argument as evidence of a creator, why not a multiverse? A fine tuned universe can also be explained by Hawking’s top-down cosmology. It says the Universe’s initial condition was a superposition of many possible conditions. It would be expected to see fine tuned constants [http://arxiv.org...]. Argument for Atheism Richard Carrier states that the fine tuning argument supports atheism more than it does theism. Similarly the “fine tuning” of the universe’s physical constants: that would be a great proof—if it wasn’t exactly the same thing we’d see if a god didn’t exist. If there is no god, we will only ever find ourselves in a universe finely tuned (in that case, by random chance), because without a god, there is no other kind of universe that can produce us. Likewise, a universe that produced us by chance would have to be enormously vast in size and enormously old, so as to have all the room to mix countless chemicals countless times in countless places so as to have any chance of accidentally kicking up something as complex as life. And that’s exactly the universe we see: one enormously vast in size and age. A godless universe would also only produce life rarely and sparingly, and that’s also what we see: by far most of the universe is lethal to life (being a deadly radiation filled vacuum) and by far most of the matter in the universe is lethal to life (constituting stars and black holes on which no life can ever live). Again, all exactly what we’d expect of a godless universe. Not what we’d expect of a god-made one. Thus, we have exactly the universe we’d expect to have if there is no god. Whereas a god does not need vast trillions of star systems and billions of years to make life. He doesn’t need vast quantities of lethal space and deadly matter. Only a godless universe needs that. I make a more detailed survey of this kind of evidence in “Neither Life Nor the Universe Appear Intelligently ” [http://www.thebestschools.org...] Conclusion Pro’s entire case hasn’t been proven. He hasn’t linked to any supporting source, thus his entire case is a bare assertion fallacy. His argument has unproven hidden assumptions, has other explanations, and can be used to support the opposite claim. Pro’s argument is refuted.