porn to be made illegal

I don't find your puns particularly funny. "Mkay, but is against the law. A lot of websites require you to use your credit card as age confirmation... " Take porn hub as an example it doesn't even ask for age confirmation let alone a credit card . "This is an appeal to extremes fallacy. Many computers come with the option. There is nothing stopping them with getting a friend, or asking for the computer to come pre-installed with the software. Point is, they don't need to do it themselves." To set restrictions on a mobile device you must do it manually this includes setting a password and disallowing websites. "But there are checks. When it asks you if you are over 18, you are 'pinky swearing' almost, that you are above the legal age. If you are found to be lying, you can be reprehensible for it." Doesn't stop people lying , most people aren't found out. My evidence for this is first hand, I know many people who have watched porn underaged, many for years however were never caught out. "Don't be inconsistent please. You just attempted to invalidate my argument on the basis that people could bypass the legal system. As with alcohol, there is an age limit, which requires a proof of age, but we all have heard of a fake ID. Again this is still an appeal to extremes, so the proposition should have never been proposed in the first place..." The age limit on porn isn't as strict as it is on alcohol, as alcohol is brought over the counter. Porn can be accessed online, yes there may be magazines but you would require a fake ID to purchase. Online people will lie about their age. You can't consume alcohol through a computer screen but you can access pornography. "Not if the person had a fake ID, then the shop keeper would be legally obligated to sell you the alcohol; it is only illegal when the shop keeper would ignore an age verification and sell you it regardless..." I am aware of this. "You say this in the context of the parental software... It have a similar effect as the 'blocked webistes' at school. I assume you are from a generation that is abundant with techonology, I assume you are familiar with the convention. There is no honesty involved, the children are denied access to the web address." As I have already mentioned some software is manual & on phones there is a way to prevent your parents setting up restrictions by setting a restriction which doesn't affect your internet and setting a password, unless your parents know the password they cannot get into the settings. "Whenever you vist a site, your IP gets permanently recorded, there is no escaping. Nevertheless, the parental system could negate this from ever happening..." When I mentioned the option of clearing history I am aware that the IP Gets recorded. I meant that parents cannot check their child's history to find out if that have been accessing inappropriate content. The IP address is recorded by the website, this will not inform the site of the age of the viewer. "The same logic could be said to fix a car... The person who needs their car fixed might not know how to fix it. From Pro's logic, this hypothetical person would never be able to fix their car. However, if there is more advertisement for this, they could easily get a technician, a friend or something like that in to apply it for them... As could the person easily get an engineer to fix their car." This is irrelevant. Firstly cars are hard to fix unless you are a mechanic or know exactly what to do and how to do it. Secondly the internet and smart phones/devices are relatively new, some parents wouldn't have grown up in the society that their children have- as society is forever changing. If a parent isn't technology smart they won't know how. "Well, Pro effectively concedes here. First, you need to provide evidence that absolutely no porn website/material have no way of stopping children from viewing it... Since you can't, the debate is actually over. Awww. This debate ended a bit 'prematurely' if you get what I am saying? Ok, i will stop with the porn puns. I am sorry, "I can't stop"... <------ Ok last porn pun, I PROMISE." Your puns aren't amusing. Pornography sites are blind to the lies as they trust people will be honest. "You have to be above eighteen to actually appear in a porno/shoot porn. So no, not all teen porn videos are illegal. Only the ones that are younger than eighteen - which is CP (Child Porn) and you can get into some really deep kleenex if you view or upload it. Sorry for another porn pun." fake ID could be used Please tell me the positives of porn.