United States slavery was never racial

Thank you, con.The issue, Pro, is that you made the claim that slavery was NEVER about race. Not African Race, RACE. Race doesn't necessarily mean skin color, it can also mean national origin (Such as the Irish. The Irish are considered a different race from, say, Germans, even though they are both light-skinned). In fact, you use that in your argument, that she was German. Let's say she was. You are using race. In order to win, you must show that race never even came into the equation.Race and nationality are two different things. As in all imperialistic eras, the conquered were always subjected to slavery. There were Irish slaves because Cromwell made the Irish slaves. Race has more to do with specific definition -- if you will and a specific set of ideas, such as skin color. Now, here is the major point. So Sally/Salome claims to be German, and thus she shouldn't be a slave, right? The judges said that if someone appeared to be of the races in my quote from the wikipedia page you linked, then there was burden of proof on the person claiming them to be a slave. THEY WERE USING RACE AS A MAIN DETERMINANT for her to not be a slave.It's a little misleading. I can understand how you came to that conclusion. However the issue wasn't her race. The issue was her mother. The main determiner of slavery wasn't really race, but whether your ma was a slave. That was the big issue of the case, but I'll give it to you, since you're an intelligent man, that's it's a misleading case. However it had more to do with the mother.y She also claimed to be a German citizen. That was her claim. It had nothing to do with race. She was German, so she was not bound by US laws. See the link below.Second. This is from the American National Biography, the source you cited. Same article even:Testimony in later trials, though, proved the Court wrong. John Miller uncovered dozens of witnesses who had known his former slave from birth. Members of the Wilson family of Alabama testified that she was a slave born into their household, known as Bridget, and sold to John Miller when she was about twelve years old. Perhaps most importantly, John Miller uncovered the whereabouts of Salom" Muller, who with her sister Dorothea had been orphaned soon after their arrival in the United States. The two girls had been indentured to a farmer near Monroe, in northern Louisiana, and the farmer's family and neighbors remembered them. Although Salom" Muller had recently died, Dorothea Muller provided written testimony of her sister's history. The two had spent their lives working as servants near Monroe, and both married when they reached adulthood.Sally Miller WAS NOT Shalome, the German. Sally was born to a black slave, and a white immigrant. She looked fair due to this mixing, which is something that happens. Sally also could not detail how she went from immigrant to slave. Shalome was never enslaved. She was in Indentured Servitude, which due to the presence of a contract, and the lack of property laws to the person in question, is not slavery.True but this doesn't prove that it was true or not. You even said it in the beginning. Even if it does prove that she was indeed a mulatto, it doesn't prove that this was a racial case. As the link shows.It DOES NOT matter that people thought she looked like someone. The fact is, it was proven that Sally Miller, born to a slave and a white man, was a distinct and different individual than Shalome Miller, who was born to Germans. EVEN if that wasn't the case. Sally was using her apparent race to argue for freedom. The Supreme Court decided that if she was a German, she couldn't be enslaved, because that race is no bueno for slavery. Race was being used to determine if she was a slave or not. Again, Sally was USING HER RACE AS AN ARGUMENT THAT SHE SHOULDN'T BE A SLAVE. Race came into the equation. Thus, slavery was, in some way, racial.Sir I think you have it wrong.She was using her nationality to say she wasn't a slave. Even you said yourself that they decided she's a German.https://en.wikipedia.org...It doesn't make a mention of her saying she was doing it because she was white. She was doing it because she claimed to be a German citizen, thus not bound by US laws. this happened with all slaves, white, Hispanic, Asian, black (whatever slaves there were).Okay, let's ignore that conclusion too. Your claim, as it stands, is that United States slavery was never racial. To prove that, you need to show that, without a shadow of a doubt, race was never used as a determinant for slavery. That doesn't mean give one case where it wasn't and you're good. No, there can't be even ONE instance of race being used. EVER. You cannot provide a single case and use that as proof for an absolute claim, you need to be able to prove that it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to have EVER used race. That is why it's hard to prove.I gave my sources. I wish the best to you, con. This was a great debate. I look forward to befriending you (which I will do now).