Favorite unknown youtuber

The first thing I want to do is clarify what I actually need to do to win. We are debating about our favorite youtuber. Both Legit and myself are giving reasons as to why we like these youtubers. How they act towards their fan base, their talent, and their video quality all play a roll in what makes them better. Sadly this is a comparative debate, so there is no way to get around that. Rebuttals and Reforming Contentions Unknown" Sports video games commentators aren't usually that well known. I checked Peter Hollen's channel, and he has double the cumulative views MrGoldenSports has. "I do not want to make this a semantics debate about the definition of unknown as I stated at the start. Views are irrelevant in most cases unless you want to argue more views = better quality. This is a debate about preference. While we could play semantics with what unknown is if you were to ask 100 people have they heard of Peter Hollens, most of the time you are going to get 100 people whom say no. Maybe once in a while you will get one yes. He definitely fits the criteria for unknownThe reason he has more cumulative views is that his channel has been around for a while, and he has picked up a more subs over the past few years. Granted even with having more views and subs, he is very unknown in general. Promoting other youtubersWhile I respect my adversaries youtuber for promoting other you tubers we again sadly have to compare them. The degree of how they help, and the reasons why they help. My adversary says this" Ever since MrGoldenSports promoted another commentator, cookieboy17, his channel has been growing as well. "This literally makes it seems like he is targeting views. Hollens take people whom are just starting out and allows them to sing in his videos and participate in videos to help their channel grow. He is not doing it to gain views on his videos, but to help other people grow their channel. Here is a list of artist whom he has worked with and helped out [1]. FamilyThis is really hard to compare and again comes down to perspective. Both of these guys seem like they are upstanding individuals. They both love their fan base, think of them as family, and love their own family unconditionally. I will say that Hollens is always doing things with his wife and is trying to help her grow own youtube channel as well. He has recently did a world of war craft song with her, he also went as far as to do one of her favorite songs "Georgia on my mind" because she really wanted to sing it with him on his channel. Both of these videos are the ones you will see at the top right. They are the first twoFunny Moments + Impressive momentsThat is the one upside to being a commentator you have hours to make up stuff and roll with it. A lot of it is off the top of your head and you will make some lol moments a good bit of the time. Peter Hollens has less of these due to the fact he is making an actual music video and all the mistakes are cut out. He does have bloopers that come up from time to time that are really entertaining as well. He also has some very impressive moments. While my adversaries choice is a gaming master and he is good at what he does. Hollens has mastered his vocals. From time to time you will hear a song that blows your mind. One that comes to mind is "I see fire", by Edd Sheeran. This is from the hobbit, and after this he received thousands of requests to do "into the west" which is in the round above. This is the third video you will see. Loyal to fan-base and familyAs I mentioned before Hollens goes out of his way to help his fans. As legit mentioned MrGoldenSports has went out of his way to take care of his family, but this is something Hollens shares with him. He devotes countless hours of his own time to earn money for his family. He is chasing a dream while taking care of a wife and kids, and sometimes can work up to 20 hours a day doing and filming these videos. He travels all over the place to get background shots and footage for them, so that his fan base will enjoy it. Since we can acknowledge they both love their family the next question is how they treat their fan baseHollens uploads less videos than Goldensports but this is because of the amount of effort it takes to make one. This is literally a music video and can take anywhere from a month to two months to edit. His fan base loves it though. It gives suspense and leaves us waiting for the next one. It also is a way not to get bored with his channel. The suspense is a great thing. Then we have to compare how they treat there fan base directly. As I mentioned legit provided examples of Sports taking care of his family and uploading a lot of videos which is great. I just think Hollens has a slight edge in this. He has invested his own money to go and visit fans whom are very sick in hospitals and that really wanted to meet him. Even though his fan base is small , they still love him. Hollens goes out of his way to give back to his fans, because they help him as well. They are his life source so he is very happy to go visit and see fans that are in bad situations to give back to his fan base. Conclusion Both of our guys are great guys, are very family oriented, and share a lot in common. As I mentioned prior to this , this is not a semantic debate about the definition of unknown but whom is more talented . Just because Goldensports has less views than Hollens does not earn him a win automatically. They are both unknown and fit the definition of it. So at this point we are debating about whom is better. This is a comparative debate about talent and being entertaining. Different factors such as how they treat their fan base plays a part in this well. Lets ReviewThings our guys share in commonGolden Sports (x) Loyal to fan base(x) Loyal to family(x) Funny(x) Talented in his area (gaming)(y) Sold his equipment to take care of family(y) Does videos with his kids(y) Does videos with another youtuber ( Possibly for views depending on how that was meant to be worded)(y) Uploads lots of videos(y) Rated top in MaddenHollens (x) Loyal to fan base(x) Loyal to family(x) Funny(x) Talented in his area (Singing)(y) Takes money out of his own pocket to visit fans whom are sick and that want to meet him(y) Does videos with his wife and kids(y) Does videos with other yotubers to help their channel grow and foster(y) Can invest countless hours of his own time, up to 20 a day filming to take care of his family(y) Uploads videos once a month due to them taking so long to film. Leaves fan base loving it and looking forward to the next one(y) Takes requests from fans and does them ( Such as into the West)(y) Vocal Master, perfected over his entire lifeWhile I think both guys are great guys and fit the profile for unknown. I think Hollens has a slight edge over Goldensports. He goes out of his way to visit fans who want to meet him, helps other youtubers just to help their channel grow, and also has perfected his vocal skills over his entire life. In sheer talent I think he has a slight edge as well. He has spent his entire life perfecting his voice and it shows in his videos. He love his family, his fans, and his youtube base. He also goes out of the way to make sure they all stay happy, even if it is as his own expense. [1] http://www.youtube.com...http://www.youtube.com...http://www.youtube.com...http://www.youtube.com...