Dinosaurs and the Bible

Very well. You say that your beliefs are not proven. Excellent. You say "the evidence" points to the topic we're discussing being true. That is most certainly false. Current scientific evidence points to evolution creating both dinosaurs and humans, over the course of the history of the Universe - beginning 13+ Billion years ago, to the history of our planet - roughly 4.5 billion years ago via radiometric dating of meteorites. The error margins on this for various reasons are a handful of million years, but not billions. [1] Every previous dating process known to man prior to radiometric dating, and prior to accounting for a handful of other factors, measured in the millions of years. If you disagree specifically with radiometric dating, (Science's current method for accounting of the age of rocks, for the most part) please let me know and I'll elaborate. The creationists' view of the age of the earth varies from between 3.8k and 5.5k years B.C. the average putting the age of the earth around 6 thousand years. [2] The error margins for these are mostly based on translations of the Bible and disputes about the age of certain biblical figures. So if we're talking about "evidence" for the age of the earth, you have the Bible on your side, and every other measurement the rest of humanity has agreed on (including many religious people, Christians among them) uses radiometric dating. The importance of this is that you specifically say evidence is on your side for this debate, while providing none outside of the Bible, whose passages match little of what we have otherwise been able to verify using any method. Also, because the Earth is 6,000 years in your view, you have to explain to us how the Dinosaurs became extinct and humans did not within this 6,000 year span. Modern science believes an asteroid impact is the most likely cause, dating and showing a crater and aging it to be 65 million years ago, roughly. [3] According to creationists, the Noah's Ark scenario occurred roughly 4 thousand years ago. [4] In the story of Noah, 2 of each animal was brought upon the Ark, as well as his family. Nothing specific in the scripture, to my knowledge, says anything other than that Noah brought 2 of each kind of animal with him. This would include dinosaurs were they to exist. In the current day times, most Americans believe in evolution. Many of these are religious humans who believe their God had a hand in guiding this. [5] If you believe in both Noah's Ark and Evolution, this presents a problem with your argument as well. The problem occurs with science's idea of Minimum Viable Population (MVP) [6] as well as Incest, in paricular. In a Biblical understanding of the world, Noah brought only 2 of each species on board. This would mean there was only 2 left of every species which walks this Earth. A population of 50 giant pandas leads to a 30% chance of extinction factoring in multiple factors. With 2 left of each species, that percentage goes up massively. With 2 left of each though, who do you think survives in the aftermath of the flood, weak species like the human, or the T-rex? Now let's factor in incest. With 2 left of each species incest is inevitable. The results of incest [7] can be quite nasty or perhaps relatively mild. However, in order to believe in Creationism one must not only say that humanity survived one bout of MVP, but two. Adam and Eve would be considered the first humans and from which all humanity stemmed, and then Noah and his family were the only ones to survive the flood. In these situations incest, and the negative effects, are inevitable. You don't have to believe in evolution specifically to see the negative effects of incest. This is well documented in science even if you ignore all material in those articles related to Evolution. Because of MVP and Incest, most of the species on that boat would be dead, or unrecognizable, and God would have made not only all the animals in the world go through with incest hundreds of times, but would have subjected Humanity to this hundreds of times more. The best thing you could argue at this point would be that the dinosaurs all died before the flood. This is most likely when your situation could have occurred within a creationist perspective. According to probability, likely the only time. Creationists believe that dinosaurs died after Noah's flood due to lack of food, whereas humans survived. [8] So you, I take it, believe that god saved the dinosaurs from the flood only to allow them (and likely 99% of the rest of the species) to be killed after the flood, except for humans and everything we currently see today. Creationists would guess, completely guess, that Dinosaurs were made at the beginning, and died in the flood. They admit this because it does not refer specifically to Dinosaurs anywhere. They presume, with no evidence, that dinosaurs died before, or shortly after the flood. This would be why they appear in written material dating back the last thousand(s) of years. [9] Radiometric dating, again, showing us the youngest fossil near the 65m mark. [10] Not only is it statistically unlikely that Creationist belief in this area is correct, it defies all common-sense as well as evidence and proof we've collected thus far. The Bible makes many references to "dragons" and one of a behemoth, but several of those occur after Noah's flood. [11] This would mean if those referred to dinosaurs, creationism would disprove its own theory on the matter. On top of that, you'd have to account for how they went extinct otherwise. You'd also need to account for where this Behemoth went as it stands? To conclude this portion, as I've given this a fair shot by anyone's standards, we have to see that when you say "the evidence points to my beliefs" you are referring to ONLY the Bible pointing to your beliefs. All we have of human knowledge that we can verify with our own tests points in the opposite direction. Your choice, as it were, would to be whether you find the Bible a more reliable, predictive, and credible source of information, or whether you find all of Human science and ingenuity, who have given us phones, GPS, the internet, and all sorts of new groundbreaking inventions whereas the Bible has been directly related to none. --- [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org... [2] - https://answersingenesis.org... [3] - https://www.nationalgeographic.com... [4] - https://answersingenesis.org... [5] - http://www.pewforum.org... [6] - https://en.wikipedia.org... [7] - http://genetic-genealogy.co.uk... [8] - https://answersingenesis.org... [9] - https://en.wikipedia.org... [10] - https://www.sciencedaily.com... [11] - https://www.biblegateway.com...