The Great Wall of China is in China. (The one that seperated them from Mongolians.)

Thank you for the debate; however, please do not assume that you have won, for that is not up to you to decide. =Rebuttals= 1. You did not provide a source for your numbers, so your arguement on that is invalid. For all I know, you could have made it up. Not only that, but you can not define the property boundaries of China unless you get a statement from them, because it is an actively communistic country. Any boundary line that is not most recent is invalid. 2. "Using the logic by which my opponent speaks, any defense system that is placed by any country MUST be outside of the country. I.e. if my missile defense system is meant to "keep invaders out", then it must be out." No, the missles would not be outside of the country. The missles would keep the INVADERS out and their attacks, but the defense system itself would be a part of the country. However, it would not be in a same analogy as China's, because the missle system would not encircle the country. (You did not win the geographical arguement, or else the debate would be over. Clearly, it is not.) 3. "Second, the argument that, if China built the wall outside of China, they would have encountered several problems- they can't build on territory that isn't there's; they would have to send warriors to protect the builders from barbarians (if it was outside of China they would have been building in barbarian territory); it would have been extremely costly to transport the equipment several hundred more miles; they would have encountered more difficult terrain" (I WILL LIST MY REBUTTALS ACCORDINGLY) a. They would not have to send warriors to protect the builders, because they do not need to expand the wall if they so chose. b. And if they were building outside the wall, they would not be building in barbarian territory, because it would be considered theirs because they're COMMUNIST, and of course it would be costly to transport equipment (though they likely wouldn't go as far as hundreds of miles past their country, because that's too far a conquest). 4. "Finally, my opponent assumes that the Great Wall is only one wall." I do not assume, it is fact. The Great Wall of China is one continuous wall. The layers of it are part of it's architectual design and are not seperate. They form together to create the one wall. For example, I live in a house. I don't live in a neat pile of wood and plaster, because there's more to it than that, and that equals a house, just as that equals the Great Wall, which you defined. 5. Yes, I agreed with your definition, but you DID NOT REFUTE that in order to protect the inside something must be on the outside. You actually AGREED WITH IT by providing the missle analogy. 6. "but he conceded that it doesn't have to be entirely inside." I never said that. I said that a (rough) circle is continous and have no points like you claimed. You never refuted my main and secondary arguements, just the subpoints. Furthermore, I do not believe you did them effectively. 7. I, too, would like to stress I never agreed to anything and your points are invalid due to faulty sources and lack thereof in your numbers. (Google.com and Wikipedia.org are NOT valid sources. Heck, one's even a search engine!)