It is Irresponsible to have Children.

Definition of IRRESPONSIBLE : not responsible: as a : not answerable to higher authority <an irresponsible dictatorship> b : said or done with no sense of responsibility <irresponsible accusations> c : lacking a sense of responsibility d : unable especially mentally or financially to bear responsibility Definition of FORESIGHT 1: an act or the power of foreseeing : prescience 2: provident care : prudence <had the foresight to invest his money wisely> 3: an act of looking forward; also : a view forward http://www.merriam-webster.com... I believe that the connotation here is more important than the denotation. Therefore, I reject my opponent's definition. I don’t think The Fool: rejection, overruled. The connotation is relativistic, it would just mean you feel its bad. Many people who have children did not plan them. The most common situation is that a couple has a lot of sex, and something bad happens. A condom breaks, or the pill doesn't work due to a hormonal imbalance. The Fool: is it bad? I mean we think that from this in a previous perspective, but maybe it will change their lives for the better. Yes, this is bad. This is about the children, growing up in less-than-ideal conditions. This is NOT about the parents. If a parent needs to change their lives for the better, then they are NOT ready to have children. The Fool: The point I am making is: P1 to say many people had them doesn’t say anything about how many exactly. P2 there is no way to tell if it is more or less common, unless you got stats, you are affected by the false consensus effect. That is when you go to think about how common it is depending on the people you know, which makes you think like its common, when it might not be. E.g. smokers tend to think most people smoke when they less people do. Another example is that Christians will tend to think more people are Christian in the world then there really is. http://en.wikipedia.org... P3 even if it is by accident it doesn’t mean they is will turn out bad, like I said it may turn out for the better. It may be positive on the parents; it often makes them more mature. And this maturity causes them to put more effort on increasing. P4 ideal conditions is vague, as long as you can feed them give them attention with adequate shelter, it may be alright. The two major factors correlated with success of the child is the education and financial status of the parent level of the parents. But I think the financial part is mostly beneficial for paying for college, because you could be rich and still a bad parent. A single child costs AT LEAST $10,000 a year. This does not include the cost of schooling, hospital visits, or holidays. This cost covers food and clothes alone. Very few people who have a child actually stop and think about what this means. The Fool: putting a price on life is not so simple. I don't think it's fair to have a child without considering the resources they require. The Fool: There is no way to tell how many people consider it or not. It much more rational, likely and charitable, that most people consider that. If you consider it, and you have are at the lower part of the social ladder then you should think that most people consider it. Childbirth is both incredibly dangerous and painful, not to mention extremely costly. Millions of women die EVERY SINGLE YEAR doing this. It may be what the body was made for, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous or costly. The Fool: we have been over finance, I don’t know think the deaths are even close to that high, I am sure this is mostly in vary undeveloped countries in the word. Death is not something woman in most of the world have to worry about. Pain comes, and it sucks but it goes. Live goes on. I think woman are strong enough. There are already plenty of children, already alive, who need loving families. Bringing another child into the world without even a moment's consideration for these children is more than selfish- it is absolutely callous. There are too many unwanted children in the world already to go making more. The Fool: do you really think people don't have moment's consideration? Really? More than selfish? So like so selfish that its altruistic? So that is good isn’t it. ;) Yes. The Fool: If I am to take you word for word it would be a ridiculous statement. You would be saying that everybody in the world doesn’t even think about having a child. Not even the thought of recognizing they are pregnant. I think it’s fair to say you are more than exaggerating. ;) There are almost 7 BILLION people in the world, and while it's easy to think, "Well there's plenty of room in Wisconsin. Why doesn't everyone just move there?" the problem isn't space, it's resources. There simply isn't enough food and water to go around, and adding another mouth to feed isn't going to resolve the situation. The Fool: Empty stats are not enough to suffice as important information. In the sense that 1000 points means nothing if you don’t know what it’s out of, or how others scored. The Fool: that is a bit random. It's an issue but it's not that easy, they would need welfare and then jobs. And the less educated may hamper the system. It may decrease the efficiency of a society. it isn't about the system. It's about natural resources. We don't have enough of them. By 2072, it is predicted that there won't be enough freshwater to go around. The Fool: I am aware of those issues, but like I said even if we only had one child each it would still chop the population in half. So any argument against having no children will not suffice. Again like before It's not until they're arguing with their spouse that they realize that they had never thought about corporal punishment before, or how they would handle the sex questions their three-year-old is throwing their way. The Fool: I don’t see how this is related to the irresponsibility have having children. And it’s impossible to support this claim. It's incredibly common in America. These are real issues that people still need to think about, and, more importantly, DISCUSS. My point here is that couples don't TALK TO EACHOTHER before having a child, and that's a problem. The Fool: lol I DON’T THINK YOU EVEN REALIZE HOW OFFENSIVE THAT JUST WAS. LOL, BUT I WILL LET IT SLIDE. I certainly don’t think they are not real issues or they wouldn’t exist. You are not saying anything about how common it is that people don’t talk about it. Obviously it’s a ridiculous claim to all couples in the world don’t talk. That is not even argumentatively defendable. There are better issues to be considered as irresponsible before we have to make any general claims about having children. For now, I don’t think if fair yet to say that people are irresponsible for have children. In fact it would have to really be drastic to find any justification that that. The speed of increase is not that high in developed countries. We need to be more responsible with getting educated; America is doing very poorly on that measure. And they need to do it