The Bible is sexist.

Hello again! Thank you so much for your thoughtful response and insights. I'll do my best to respond to them now. I'm sorry if my answer last time was a little rushed- I was running short on time and didn't elaborate on a lot of my points, leading to some confusion. I hope this time, I can give some more thoughtful answers. Contrary to what you said, the punishment that is given to Adam actually was more strictly related to men than women. Men's bodies are more built for hard labor, and my saying that isn't me being sexist- it's just fact. Most people will accept that men are generally stronger than women- that's why they're separated into different groups in events such as the Olympics. There are, of course, weak men and strong women, but in general, their genetic makeup is different in that way. Throughout history, men have done more of the work in the fields and in factories and such. This isn't a statement of their worth at all- just the fact that men were more affected by this command then women. And with that past, I'm going to turn to those last five words, 'he shall rule over you'. In this passage, God is giving man authority and saying that in a household setting, a man should be the ruler of his family. I have strong reasons for believing that this is not sexism, but I'm going to follow your structure and go into this later. The verse that you gave is very complicated because it deals with the issue of saving your body before marriage. I respect your beliefs, and I accept that there's a difference here, but I'm not going to go deep into this because a discussion of sex before marriage is completely irrelevant to the main topic and won't really prove my point. My other reason is simply that, because of my age, I really don't know enough about this topic to offer a clear or convincing argument. However, I don't think, with regards to the topic itself, it's really necessary for me to argue that position. Instead, I'll challenge you on the idea of objective morality. You make a claim here that sex before marriage is okay, and say that God is sexist for punishing it. But, if you believe that God is biased and unfair (or doesn't exist at all), then what basis can you offer for claiming that you know what is 'acceptable' and what is not. Christians can claim 'objective morality' because they believe in a God who creates it. But if you deny that God is fair and just, then your explanation for this verse being 'sexist' has to include some kind of a basis for defining what IS right and wrong. I believe that sex before marriage is wrong, and God is right to punish it. I don't think that Christians need to have such a strict punishment for it in modern times because of Jesus' death and fulfilment of the old law (which is another complicated tangent that I'm not going to go into now), but I do believe that God has a right to punish sin, and I respect that he does that. I don't think such a decree is anti-women, just controversial when compared to modern beliefs. As for men not being punished the same as women, this isn't true at all. Both men and women are punished for this, and just because this verse is directed at women doesn't mean that women are the only ones who will be punished for it. Most of the verses in the bible dealing with premarital sex are directed towards men and women equally- this verse is simply different in terms of it's targe audience. I could list many, many verses where men are punished for sexual immorality- they are not exempt from this. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Hebrews 13:4, Revelation 2:22 As for the next verse, I apologize for not quoting my sources. This isn't something that I do a lot, and it's something that I need to work hard to do more often. Unfortunately, this isn't something with a clear link or a book that I can direct you too- I heard it in Sunday school once. I apologize for not relying on a more reliable source- I understand where I went wrong on my part, and next time I'll try to only make arguments based on solid fact. However, I did a little bit more research on this topic, and I came across something that really surprised me, and I think will answer your question. I'd like to point you to this link: https://escapetoreality.org.... To answer your next question, I think we have to back up and, as you have already done, define sexism. To be honest, I think the lack of a clear definition is making the line blurry for both of us. I would, in general, agree with Merriam-Webster's definition, although even within that, the definition is a little vague. It's complicated to know what qualifies as discrimination. One silly example of this might be an adult trying to enter kindergarten and accusing the teacher of discriminating them based on age. This is kind of ridiculous- after all, Kindergarten is specifically directed at kids- it's how they learn. Refusing to allow an adult in isn't discriminatory- it's common sense. So it's complicated to know where to draw the line here. This, I belive, is a clearer definition that makes a lot more sense in the context of this discussion. This is from Dictionary.com. Let me know if you agree. "[Sexism is] the belief that one sex (usually the male) is naturally superior to the other and should dominate most important areas of political, economic, and social life. Sexist discrimination in the United States in the past has denied opportunities to women in many spheres of activity." I don't believe that the Bible is guilty of this definition. The Bible is clear that men and women have different roles, and for men, they are called to a position of leadership. But the Bible never says that men are naturally superior to women. It does say that men should dominate some aspects of life, including the church, but it doesn't meet the definition because these areas are not 'more important'. The Bible says clearly that they are equally important to God. I gave verses regarding this in my previous argument: Titus 2:4-5, 1 Timothy 3:11, and Proverbs 31 all talk about the importance of a God-fearing woman. Christians believe that women are called to different roles in society, but their roles are not lesser. You said, and I quote "If women are loved just as much as men in the eyes of God, that has nothing to do with their position in the world. Sexism doesn't mean hating one gender or liking it less than another. Nor does it have anything to do with a woman's role in the universe." I'm not sure you fully understood my point here, because what you said actually proved my point. You've been arguing that because women are not allowed in a leadership position, and husbands are called to be leaders of the family, then that's sexism. But just now, you clearly said that the roles of each gender are different, but none is different in the eyes of God from one another. I will hold by my point that 'just because men are in authority does not mean that they are superior'. These two words do not mean the same thing- after all, would you argue that the boss in your example (the "superior") is a more important person then the people beneath him? I would say no- he is in authority, but that does not make him a better person. Ephesians 5:23 says something very similar to this- men are in authority, certainly, but it says nothing about them being naturally better people. I only have a few characters left, so I'm going to stick straight to the point and try to end this quickly. The verses that I stated in the previous round do talk about submission to their husbands, but they also clarify the importance of a woman's role, and each of them make it clear that a woman is important and valuable to society. I have only a few characters left, so I'll end with this: https://bible.org...