Morality is an objective truth

I will adress pro's points, but I'd like to start with the argument I thought up in a car trip. I thought about my Japan argument, why that didn't work, and then I realised, it was still human society. I then pondered, what about people absent from humans? What about Feral children? I looked into 3 different cases and found extraordinary evidence. All of these people showed no glimmer of humanity, even their biology had adapted to the animals they lived upon. Please read the following extract: Perhaps one of the best-known and controversial stories of feral children is that of Amala and Kamala. Kamala and Amala are two of the most interesting cases of feral children. The wolf girls were about 18 months (Amala) and eight years old (Kamala) when they were found together in a wolves" den. However, it is believed that they were not sisters, but were abandoned " or taken by wolves " some years apart. "In that year, Reverend Joseph Singh, a missionary in charge of an orphanage in Northern India, heard of two ghostly spirit figures seen accompanying a band of wolves near Midnapore in the Bengal jungle. The local villagers were fearful of these apparitions but local custom forbid them to do any harm to the wolves. Intrigued, Singh built a hide in a tree top over-looking the lair of the wolf pack, an old ten-foot high termite mound that had become hollowed out with time. As the moon rose, Singh saw the wolves come out one by one. Then sticking their heads out briefly to sniff the night air before bounding forwards into the clearing came two hunched and horrible figures. As Singh described the "ghosts" in his diary, they were: "Hideous looking"hand, foot and body like a human being; but the head was a big ball of something covering the shoulders and the upper portion of the bust"Their eyes were bright and piercing, unlike human eyes"Both of them ran on all fours." The girls seemed to have no trace of humanness in the way they acted and thought. It was as if they had the minds of wolves. They tore off any clothes put on them and would only eat raw meat. They slept curled up together in a tight ball and growled and twitched in their sleep. They only came awake after the moon rose and howled to be let free again. They had spent so long on all fours that their tendons and joints had shortened to the point where it was impossible for them to straighten their legs and even attempt to walk upright. They never smiled or showed any interest in human company. The only emotion that crossed their faces was fear. Even their senses had become wolf-like. Singh claimed their eyes were supernaturally sharp at night and would glow in the dark like a cat"s. They could smell a lump of meat right across the orphanage"s three acre yard. Their hearing was also sharp " except, like Victor, the voice of humans seemed strangely inaudible to their ears. A poor but relatively well educated man, Singh did his best to rehabilitate his charges. Influenced by the horticultural model of child development, he theorised that the wolf habits acquired by Kamala and Amala had somehow blocked the free expression of their innate human characteristics. Singh felt it was his job (not least, for religious reasons) to wean the girls from their lupine ways and so allow their buried humanity to emerge. Unhappily, before his experiment had progressed far, the younger girl, Amala, sickened and died. This proved a great set-back to Kamala, who had only just started to lose her fear of other humans and her orphanage surroundings. Kamala went into a prolonged mourning and for a while, Singh feared for her life as well. But eventually Kamala recovered and Singh started a patient programme of rehabilitation." If their bodies were lupine and their mind followed suit, what morality did they have? Human or wolf? Think about it: they had no respect for their own kind until they were beginning to be rehabilitated, surely we can agree that it was not in their moral code to avoid nudity, to be quiet when people are sleeping, things that they didn't use grey areas to do. Now, I have some character limit left for some rebuttals, I'll make this brief. Pro states that things are not considered intrinsically moral because society tried to justify the matter, however, if someone attempts to justify killing, I.E war, does that make the war imorral by default? In the section titled "con on morality through the ages" He states that rape was still considered objectively wrong, but you could not rape your wife or another man. I'd like to look at it from a different angle, that rape means imorral non-consensual sex, whilst non-consensual sex with your wife was considered moral. The same goes with murder, it being imorral but combat being referred to as moral killing. I believe pro misunderstood my statement on people not following the alleged objective moral code, he stated that even if people don't see it, it doesn't mean it's not there, and that he doesn't have to follow it, and that he doesn't have to have sex with his skinny, good looking neighbour. I meant that if people do not have to follow an objective moral code, it serves exactly the same purpose as a subjective moral code, and a difference that makes no difference is no difference at all. In the section "con on people who have no morals" Pro attempts to refute my point by arguing that people who have no morals don't prove there is no objective morality, since people who believe they have no limbs still have limbs. The difference is, we can say as an absolute certainty that they do, In fact, have limbs. If we knew wether or not they have an objective mortality, we wouldn't be having this debate. In the case of the US condemning the Nazis, I apologize for not addressing your point the first time around, but I talk don't agree with you saying I have to accept this as true, the United states partly occupied Germany after the war, and therefore had every right to impose their moral code on the Nazis, they had control over the legal system and the people of west Germany. Thank you still for the debate, and over to you, pro. http://wpas.worldpeacefull.com... https://en.m.wikipedia.org... https://en.m.wikipedia.org...