religion (be it Christianity, Islam or Judaism) is immoral

"I'm sorry if you have the impression that we evolutionists say it is proven, still if you can't teach what is not proven then don't bother teaching anything." So you're an evolutionist? Ah, I didn't see that coming. Since you're a pantheist, do you believe God created the Big Bang or the process of evolution happened with the help of a god? I know you don't believe that the Bible is true. Why? What do you base your belief in God on? Did you tell your aunt that it was her hard work that earned her daily bread, not prayer? Because you should. Challenge her faith/religion and see what her response is. If you believe God created us then you should already be grateful to him; if you believe God loves and cares for us so much that he sent his only son to die on a cross as a symbol of him taking our guilt and sin, then you should be thanking him through prayer and worship; and if you believe you have a relationship with Jesus than you also believe He can take care of you (and already has, such as providing daily bread). Oh, and "daily bread" can be taken literally or metaphorically, as it basically means "our needs" and "our every day materials." As a Christian [little Christ] you would believe all the things above and would probably feel some need to praise the Creator. About Koreans, I don't know how to respond besides telling you not to compare 'God' with any earthly leader even as powerful as he is. A verse in Ephesians is "...for our fight is not against flesh and blood but against the rulers and the authorities of this dark and evil world." God is spirit and Kim Jong Il is flesh. I believe God is omniscient and all-loving therefore I also argue he knows ahead/more than any of us will ever know. He tests us, He helps us, and He is with us as a Spirit. You defined secular or atheist morality the way I did in Round 1. The Ten Commandments do not insult and condescend human beings at all, they are simply guidelines as I have said times before! For Christians, if their wasn't a commandment saying 'thou shalt not steal...murder,' how would we know God doesn't want us to perform these acts? In fact these "rules" just go to show how much God cares for us. The Ten Commandments are most definitely moral because it is 'the concern of human behavior.' Concerning Exodus and the 'killing' God commanded them to do, I argue that it is NOT a contradiction with the fourth commandment. Included in these commandments was the first and most important commandment, "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. So, after giving the Hebrews an opportunity to join God's side, God ordered the others who were worshipping idols to be killed. Is this a contradiction? No! It would be a contradiction if God had NOT order the idol worshippers to be killed. Killing under these circumstances is not murder, but justice. Even so, there will always be people who prefer justice to mercy. Source: http://www.godandscience.org... "Just how totalitarian is that? Obey or die." God was giving a gift and a warning to man kind. It was a logical command and God gave it for good reason, and the people should listen because God knows everything. Again, with the ten plagues given to the Egyptians, God had warned the Pharaoh about the things coming. Would people call it a genocide if God plagued a people-group now-days? I don't think so. We'd all pee our pants and take underground cover. When was the last time Christianity was "shoved down your throat." The claim that it IS is bogus and doesn't make sense. I told you why we might look like "control freaks" from the outside. It's because we want people to see the truth and know God for themselves. But please, give me one example of religion getting shoved into your throat because it is a vague statement that can't be claimed without a vague example. Busted. We do not threaten people with Hell; there is much more to telling people about God! We want them to experience GOD'S love so that they will be convinced of the spiritual realms such as Heaven and Hell. Hell is not what brings people to Christ. It's the thought of 'forgiveness of all sins and eternal life' that draws people in. And once they dig deeper and see the evidence, the truth, their faith, relationship, and religion becomes genuine. About militant atheists, I think it is (a) against the Constitution and immoral; (b) pointless for themselves and harmful to religious folk; (c) they should let religious people be religious. If they can't admit that they don't know which life-style/religion is true and false, they should let the religious people alone and focus on their own lives. Doctrinaire Christians = http://www.google.com... As a Christian: yes, I think of the Bible and God when considering if abortion is right or wrong, who/which gives us morals to live by and I believe we should obey the commandments which God has set before us. But to me abortion is also murder, I get that from plain common sense. It's wrong to take away life from an innocent thing in a mother's womb who will grow up to be a human being. By the way, abortion is immoral to me because a mother shouldn't control whether the next generation in her family gets to live or not. It's a bad human behavior.