Morality is Necessarily Absolute

I don't really have a right to life, or to liberty, or anything like that. Rights are just the label we give to specific large-scale agreements among agents. I don't kill you, you don't kill me. I don't steal from you, you don't steal from me. They're a social convenience whose enforcement is basically a requirement for (mostly) peaceful coexistence. ” Not stealing from you benefits you but how does it benefit me? You could argue that you could then just as easily steal from me which is true but that still doesn’t prove how it is mutually beneficial for either of us not to steal from the other. If you don’t steal from me there would be nothing stopping me from stealing from you. “Social Convince. It allows for an easier coexistence. Now for myself I would not step out of my way to fight Hitler because I find no reason to. Others find it repulsive and absolutely wrong which lead them to intervene. ” So if Hitler were right in front of you killing someone else you would just let it be? “Moral absolutism can not be right because of facts all around you. People vary in all aspects. How he or she was raised and where he or she was raised will effect their idea on morals. The way he or she was raised will dictate how / what is right and wrong. " Just because people have different views on something does not mean that they all must be true. If I said that 2+2=5 would I be right? If you say that there is no right answer then you could never pass a Math class. It is provable there is a correct answer. Even if you express it in different ways the concept is the same weather it is II+II=IV or 2+2=4 ;dos y dos igual quarto or two plus two equals four it is always true, even if everyone in the world believed otherwise. There is no consensus reality when it comes to truth. If it can be proven there are absolutes in the rest of the world why not morality? “What are my opponents moral absolutism views? What morals are always true everywhere? He claims there are moral absolutism but without elaborating on said claim how is he able to challenge me properly? ” Great question. If something is morally wrong it is morally wrong universally. For instance, murder is just as wrong in China as it is in the US. Even if the laws don’t reflect this it does not negate the core of the morality behind it. Rape is also wrong everywhere weather the law says so or not. People will often say that we must respect other cultures because they are just different than us. In certain cultural manners this is true such as eating with chopsticks vs. eating with a fork, it neither is morally superior to the other. When it comes to morality that is not true. “You claim my idea of Nihilism is a belief, notice I said idea. I do not believe in anything. Beliefs are unchangeable, ideas are. It is human nature to think of ones self as better than another. Having said that you challenged me on a topic that I wish to explore for my own person interest to see if my stance is more valid. Thus far I am not shaken. ” The belief in nothing can be a belief in itself. Atheists believe there is no God. Their belief is that there is no God. “Valid statement. My response is simply that absolutes should be questioned. ” Then you would say that there is a possibility absolutes could be true? “If only objective morality allows one to understand morality how could your claim of an absolute allow for you to challenge my alleged absolute. ” I am using objective morality synonymously with moral absolutism. The rest of your question I don’t understand as I thought you were arguing against absolutes. “The voters. ” If it is all subjective it shouldn’t matter what the voters think, I you could still win in your own view even if the voters say you lose. ”The conflict would never be resolved regardless of that fact. If one, as yourself, firmly believe in something than your stance will never change regardless of facts present in front of you. ” That is true, but unless we have a firm basis for truth we can’t even start to truly debate and we are merely debating opinions and emotions. I look forward to the next round where we will start wrapping up our arguments.