Rehabilitation ought to valued over Retribution in the US criminal justice system

I have been postponing this response in order to think a way to bring it so that you would understand my standpoint clearly. I will probably not succeed. I thank my opponents for the interesting debate. Too bad there aren't enough rounds for you to exactly see what I am trying to say. Either way by your response I concluded you are not understanding certain aspects of the concept I am using. Perhaps for the term you have linked with my first stated arguments in which perhaps it is not linked with that term at all. I won't be looking it up so here a short meaning of my arguments. This sentence you posted 'If everything is predetermined, then we shouldn't even concern ourselves with what the state ought to do because what it will do is already predetermined'. That is mostly the indicator you personally don't understand the concept of what I am saying. That makes no sense at all you discard logic with this statement. We can't predict what is going to happen because we can't see everything. Pre-determine lies in knowing the necessary information and since all outcomes and possibilities is presence for the example I used with the computer it can change very easily and we just can’t see everything. Example: You are going to work and you see something in the sky for some reason you just noticed. Something is about to crash a few blocks from you. From this information you decided not to go that direction. A lot of different scenario's could have played out here. You didn't see it or you did, but ignored it. Now let I say you take the route of going the other direction. Why did you take that route? Out of all the possibility you took that one. Reason might be you don't want to die. Let I then say your life is terrible, you take the route of walking ahead where it is going to crash. Every route taken is not taken randomly there are personal reasons involved that forced you to take that particular route of going the other direction. May it be logical or not. Why are there different routes? All possibility exists and if you asked other person he probably does something else. With that the individual takes different routes in a similar situation. Now we should look why are there differences. It flows from the idea that everybody is different. Why? We are different psychologically for the information we have might be different or the same but given different meaning. Which are shaped by how we grew up the things we learned and the variance different factors that formed us. From that it was pre-determined you were going to take that specific route. Someone set this up from a far observing you and knowing everything about you. This person could predict (pre-determine) which route you were going to take. From that ultimately you are just following routes with the information you are holding at that moment in the process of so- called decision making. Next is for you to state it can't be because quantum physics say so. How is that not the classical mistake of saying someone says this so it must be true. If you personally have read the prove and understand it. Only by that can you fully support this as a valid argument. Since you only make the reference to it, I also could statement say well person x said it and is recognized as a solid source so it is true. You mentioned unfairness. How is this not the case of exercising the majorities power over the minority? You say unfair for x percentage of people and by that the minority should automatically suffer. You at least got one thing right, but that wasn't so hard since I sort of tricked you into going that route by saying my entire case rests upon determinism. Apologies it was too easy. By it I wanted to prove that determinism somewhat proven as correct. You didn't choose to post that end statement if I wouldn't have said that. That little direction change made by me pushed you into that route. Just to give that extra feel personal touch if the example didn't work for you. Finally at the end of this debate that you stated that even if it is pre-determined it doesn't matter. You come to this statement by referring to the unfairness for the majority. You look upon the chain reaction of the current system and within that state well it can't be realised so let this injustice go on. By pre-determine claim it is not a person's fault for being how he his, he just got unlucky. By that is unfair to punish him for that which was out of his control. For he was made that way. In closing to it all and taking inconsideration everything I said this not even a choice anymore, but a responsibility of the US criminal justice system which by name sounds so hypocritical to uphold its duty to rehabilitate instead of retribution. Thanks again for this debate it showed I need some work on making my arguments more illuminating to others.