fairy vs demon

Thanks to Pro for a worthy and timely topic, a sharp contrast to the many worthless debates cluttering up DDO these days.Of all the metaphysically challenged beings, demons are pre-eminent. Think about it. Suppose there is a nasty job to do, like taking out bin Laden. Are you really going to send Tinkerbell? No, you would send a pack of snarling demons The US government has not acknowledged the role of demons in the bin Laden affair, but they are just worried about the "Great Satan" publicity angle. We all know what the truth is, and that the Navy SEALS think is an obvious cover. None of SEALs who allegedly participated as been identified or interviewed, clear evidence of a cover up. The truth of demon involvement proves that demons are more powerful than fairies, and contrary to the traditional slander against them, they are fully capable of doing good.The powers of fairies are extremely limited. We can rely upon the research of noted author J,M. Barrie to accurately reflect the characteristics of fairies. Wikipedia, an unimpeachable source, summarizes: Tinker Bell was described by Barrie as a fairy who mended pots and kettles, like an actual tinker. Her dialogue consists of the sounds of a tinkling bell, which is understandable only to those familiar with the language of the fairies. ... Though sometimes ill-tempered, spoiled, and very jealous and vindictive (getting the Lost Boys to shoot arrows at Wendy), at other times she is helpful and kind to Peter. The extremes in her personality are explained in-story by the fact that a fairy's size prevents her from holding more than one feeling at a time, so when she is angry she has no counterbalancing compassion. Fairies cannot fly in the rain but can enable others to fly by sprinkling them with fairy dust ... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org... Fairies cannot fly in the rain! If it came down to it, one would be better off going with Navy SEALs, who can fly in the rain. 1. Pro contends that fairies are in the hierarchy of angels, but offers no proof. The always-reliable Wikipedia provides the straight scoop: "[Fairies] origins are less clear ... being variously dead, or some form of demon, or a species completely independent of humans or angels. Folklorists have suggested that their actual origin lies in a conquered race living in hiding, or in religious beliefs that lost currency with the advent of Christianity. These explanations are not necessarily incompatible, and they may be traceable to multiple sources." [2] http://en.wikipedia.org... Note the confirmation by multiple sources. Fairies my in fact be demons, in which case Pro's case that fairies are more more powerful than demons is directly negated. No being can be more powerful than itself. Otherwise, fairies have troublesome but limited powers. Fairies, as part of an unwarranted publicity campaign, are generally portray as miniature cute girls with wings. None have ever consented to interviews on a major Sunday news program like Meet the Press, so we don't know for sure what they look like. It is blatant racism to suppose that if they look more appealing than demons, that they are better than demons. This is the well-known Chipmunk Fallacy, in which cute rodents are supposed to be less harmful than rodents not thought cute. "a demon ... is a supernatural being described as something that is not human and in ordinary usage malevolent. The original neutral Greek word "daimon" does not carry the negative connotation initially understood by implementation of the Koine and New Testament " [4] http://en.wikipedia.org... While is ordinary usage they cannot e controlled, in fact that can be overcome by careful usage. "a demon is a spiritual entity that may be conjured and controlled." [4] I grant that there are evil demons, which is why they should only be controlled by trained professionals, like the CIA. Evil demons should not be blamed in any case as they are just the product of poor parenting. 2. "Much of the folklore about fairies revolves around protection from their malice, by such means as cold iron ... and they will not go near it) or charms of rowan and herbs, or avoiding offense by shunning locations known to be theirs. In particular, folklore describes how to prevent the fairies from stealing babies and substituting changelings, and abducting older people as well." [2] They aversion to rowan is a significant weakness, because rowan or mountain ash is common in the temperate zones of the Northern Hemisphere. It is common in Europe and North America. [3] http://en.wikipedia.org... The inhabit woodlands [2], which precludes operation in urban environments. Since they never go back to where they were identified as having been, they are doomed to an ever-shrinking domain. That's not powerful. While demons are generally trashed in the literature, it takes considerable research to uncover their specific powers. However, the specifics have been documented, such as "Seated on his golden throne, blazing like flame, Ravana resembled a great fire kindled on an altar kept alive by sacrificial offerings. Unconquered by gods, gandharvas, rishis or other creatures, that warrior, who resembled death itself with wide-open jaws, bore on his person the wounds inflicted by the thunderbolts in the war between gods and titans" [5] http://www.unification.net... Compare that to Tinkerbell. More specifics are obtained from another unimpeachable source, Yahoo Answers. Demons are capable of "Soul stealing ..., Coercion and Subversion. Planting demon seed in virgins ..., Killing for the pure joy of it, Impervious to fire, Shooting fire or commanding it, Sensing people who want to do bad, [and] Just plain too tough to kill with one smack." [6] http://answers.yahoo.com... According to this source they are afraid of ice and various religious things. Big deal. 3. Pro claims that good triumphs over evil. I have established that it is highly controversial as to whether fairies are reliably good and whether all demons are evil. Each fairy and demo should be judged solely on their individual merit, without any racist blanket condemnations. However, even if we were to grant that fairies are good and demons are evil and that good ultimately triumphs, it does not follow that fairies are more powerful than demons. It would at most establish the more powerful good friends of fairies are more powerful than demons. Pro has granted that fairies are inferior to the highest Deity, and are merely somewhere in the upper part of the hierarchy. It may be that if good ultimately triumphs, it would be the consequence of the superior beings, not of the fairies. We know that fairies have very limited powers at best, so it must be the case that if good is to triumph, a Greater Being must be above the Monty Python foot. [7] http://honorsartsyoutings.blogspot.com... This debate is not about the overarching good of goodness. It is solely about fairies vs. demons. I grant that fairies are most often shown as cute, but I say that we must look past that to the objective facts of the matter. Fairies do not have the kind of lead in the pencil that demons have. (In setting up the debate, Pro says that "this is purely strict debate" yet it is just "a frivolous debate." "Strict implies high standards of evidence, not really possible with this subject. That's a bit of a contradiction with "frivolous." I'll let readers resolve that conflict.)