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Modern art.

I see the point you are making over and over again: beauty is subjective. Ok, But I have put out multiple claims which you reject to acknowledge. Such as the the entire reason that art is created: to express beauty. Not to make a crude statement. Or that the inspiring, Uplifting, And motivational have been replaced by the pointless, Arbitrary, And purely offensive. I went to the Oakland museum of art recently and i saw this clay object (at best it looked like a warped clay pot) I was trying to understand how it even got in there since I created something similar when I was four with a hunk of craft clay. Then I saw a video of the person making it. It looked like it took a lot of effort. But you know what other pieces of art that took even more effort? Greek Urns. These magnificent pieces of art have been kept through the centuries as wonders of greek imagination. What I saw in the museum of modern art was a warped, Twisted, And mangled version of that beauty. Very fitting. You reject bad music because it is bad music. Simplicity has nothing to do with it. A simple way of putting it is as if a very bad skater fell down on the ice and got a low score. Whats happening with modern art is if that same skater demanded that their performance scored as high as the most disciplined skater. Eventually it would get to the point where training would be pointless and judging would be pointless. Everyone finds the golden ratio beautiful in some way. Studies have shown that even human faces follow the golden ratio. The $10 million hunk of stone I referred to was the piece of modern art that was just a rock. Not the David. I actually find the David to be a marvelous work of art. That would be considered as a fine example of modern art. The paintings message is non-existent but people appreciate it because its semi-realistic. I already gave you an example of what I meant by trashy. Take it or leave it. My final point is that artists have recently been lazy. They scribble on a canvas and expect the viewer to interpret it. An example of this it Robert Rauschenberg's blank white painting sold for millions. I could do the same thing in a few minutes. There is no color, Style, Or effort. He expects you to fill in that big blank gap that the painting left in your mind. Pleasure debating with you.
Modern art.

"during around the renaissance period, Each artist sought the highest quality attainable and they improved on the previous generation of masters. Nowadays art seems to be only about making a statement, Which in tern leads to bad art. Art standards are not objective. "Okay, So I don't want to be obtuse and act like I don't understand your point. I'm a musician, So I too have snobbishly rejected music that was overly simplistic or what you would call "trashy"The thing about art is it's not just one thing. So I would say that while it's okay to have a standard, Which judgements made of this standard COULD be objective even if the standard itself is subjective, We should also acknowledge that sending a message is okay too. It really depends on the message. I would say that if the art made is coherent and not just random lines, Then it should be respected. That is the bare standard that i could accept. "The golden ratio is a great example of transcendant beauty. I don't know a single person who does not find flowers beautiful. "This is the argument from ignorance fallacy, AKA the pesonal incredulity fallacy. You're basically saying that you can't imagine how somebody can't find the golden ratio beautiful, But it's stilll subjective. Plus everyone likes it for a different reason if they like it at all. I don't find flowers partiularly beautiful (Yeah, I know, I'm a monster) but I find the ratio itself beautiful becase I love math. Also, Doesn't the golden ratio have a more popular name? Just a side note. I had a friend into metaphysics who use to talk about it all the time and how it shows up everywhere. Nature is fun. I want to adress the comment you made about the David being a really expensive hunk of stone. You say beauty is transcendant, But millions of people have found beauty in the david and you haven't. Doesn't that hurt your case? If beauty is transcendant, Then it should be universally agreed upon, But nobody can agree with anything, Hence why this website exist. Lol. I'm sure you're famiar with warhal's campbell soup painting. I found it to be stupid, But peole liked it. It's all subjective and we should respect people's opinions instead of saying they're being "trashy" or not artistic. Your floor :)
Modern art.

Ok, Well said. during around the renaissance period, Each artist sought the highest quality attainable and they improved on the previous generation of masters. Nowadays art seems to be only about making a statement, Which in tern leads to bad art. Art standards are not objective. The golden ratio is a great example of transcendant beauty. I don't know a single person who does not find flowers beautiful. The golden ratio is everywhere and has existed since nature has so it is a universal standard of beauty.
Modern art.

Hey now, I made points. Don't reduce me to simple neigh saying. My whole argument is that art is subjective and that standards are arbitrary. That's not a rebuttle, It's my argument. "5 What I meant was that beauty transcends the beholder, It is something that anyone can see and appreciate the time, Effort, And quality that went into making it. "Prove that transcendant beauty exist or this argument is baseless.
Modern art.

I wondered when I was going to end up debating you. I just figured it would be about something religious. Starting off the debate with rebuttal? Do you even have any reasoning on your side? Oh well. 1 There once was a day when artists were expected to learn and improve from the previous generation of masters. Nowadays, It is all about what you are feeling when you create art, Not what you are actually creating. There is more than opinions to art. Standards like the golden ratio often is used in the most popular art. That is not an opinion. 2 Trashy is when Michelangelo carves the David out of stone, And the Los Angelos County Museum of Art offers us a 340 ton rock. Just a rock. Or Petra, The prized piece of art consisting of a police woman squatting and urinating, Complete with a puddle of synthetic urine. Thats what I mean by trashy. 3 No its not. Thats what this entire debate is all about. 4 When art used to be good, Artists created pieces that inspired, Uplifted, And deepened us. That has been replaced with what is ugly, Offensive, And pointless. 5 What I meant was that beauty transcends the beholder, It is something that anyone can see and appreciate the time, Effort, And quality that went into making it. Its not a coincidence that the golden ratio is found in nature. Maybe we understand it as the beauty of nature.
Modern art.

Art is subjective. It's totally based on opinions and my opinion is that modern art is good. So that makes it your word against mine. How do we decide between the two of us. Standards are just opinions that people tend to follow. Everybody's standards are different. So when you say there's not standards at all, You're speaking for the whole world, Which you can't do. So what you really mean is that the art doesn't fit YOUR standards, AKA, It's your opinion. The artists who create modern art do have standards, You just don't agree with them. Define Trashy please. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, That is an objective fact that you cannot refute. "art should not be made to express a statement" That's just your opinion, Unless you can find a reason why it's immoral to do so. "Beauty is transcendent" You mean like god? If that's what you're saying then produce god for me and then I'll accept this claim.
God says rape is ok

A rapist must be put to death only if the girl is already married or engaged. That is not because he is raping her, it is because he is forcing adultery, which is another sin for which you get a death sentence. So, the only "punishment" is the 50 shekels, or the $12,144 US dollars and he has to take care of the girl. So, if a disgusting man wants to make a wife out of the girl of his dreams but she refuses him, all he has to do is rape her and pay the fine. That is truly not a punishment. The girl is definitely being punished. Do you think she is getting a good deal being forced to marry a rapist? Do you think rapists are good people? Most likely, they were dirty, disgusting animals. Psychopaths. Sadists. Sadists, who get hot young wives as prizes for raping. God truly loves men more than women.
God says rape is ok

Here is my premise. If God punishes people for rape, then he says that rape is bad. If God states that rape is bad, then he is not okay with it. Thus, to disprove my opponent's claims, all I need to do is proves that God punishes rapists. First, let us take a look at Deuteronomy 22:25-29 "If out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her." Verses 25-27 The Lord continues with, "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." Verses 28-29 Allow me to start with verses 25-27. The Lord states that if a man rapes an engaged woman, he is to be put to death and the woman is to be left alone. This clearly a punishment, meaning that the Lord is not okay with rape. Now for verses 28-29. If a man raped a woman in this case, he would have to marry her and pay a 50 Shekel fine to his father. This fine is the modern-day equivalent of $12,144 US dollars. This is a hefty fine and a clear punishment. Furthermore he now has to marry. At first this may seem cruel the the unengaged woman, but it isn't. In the time period, if a woman did not have a husband, she would either sell herself as a slave or as a prostitute in order to take care of herself. By being married to the man, she is saved form that. Furthermore, by being married with the woman, the rapist is now burdened by having to take care of her, adding to the expenses. This is also a punishment. Thus, God opposes rape.
God says rape is ok

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. You not only get away with rape, you also get a wife. You just have to pay her dad some money, which often happened even in cases of non-rape related marriages.
pc is better than mac

i am really really really sorry. I didn't mean to forfeit a round. Well here is my last point (i am going to have to make this short) 1. macs are popular because of Ipod. People don't usually buy a mac because it's too expensive like i said before.You get 2 choice. $400 pc or about $1200 mac? Macs monitor is about $900 and that's for a normal mac monitor pc monitor's about $500 (some are LCD ones are $100 as well) for a normal not too expensive monitor. Many of us are gamers as well, then buy a PC. 2. By now everyone has heard about windows 7. The task bar is just amazing. The computer looks great. 3. PC has a mode called compatibility mode, which allows you to run any application that you are not having a great time running in the current OS. The compatibility mode helps you to run old application and not only that it reduces problems too. 4. You can't selfbuild a mac. Like ibuypower you are able to create the pc that you like. Sorry that's all i can write. I enjoyed the debate. vote for PC :) http://www.youtube.com... enjoy the rap
pc is better than mac

I expected this, but am nonetheless disappointed. And I quote: "5. Don't Ever Forfeit a Round" "Even if you don't have time to leave a full response, DO NOT forfeit a round. Forfeiting a round destroys your credibility and makes it less likely that voters will vote for you. If you can't post a full response, write as much as you can, and leave a simple sentence stating that you are unable to post a full argument and will return for the next round. This lets your opponent know that you still wish to participate in the debate and allows them to elaborate their argument." http://www.debate.org... Allow me to point out that forfeiting rounds is a terrible strategy for winning debates. This debate has been a major disappointment for me, for when I took it I believed that my opponent actually wanted to debate. Obviously he was not serious about this at all, having given no effort to convincing us that his position is correct. My arguments stand unaltered. I ask that my opponent, out of courtesy for the voters no less than myself, make the effort to post something in his final round.
pc is better than mac

I am very sorry to say but... IT'S THE MONEY STUPID! If you're got a lot of extra spare cash laying around that you don't care about, then by all means, buy a Mac. But if, like most of the world, you've got to work for a living, then you'll find that a PC's is far less expensive than a Mac. And if you are a gamer like me than PC is better! "OHHHHH WE CAN USE BOOT CAMP" are you kidding me???? PC all you do is pop the CD and play the game. And face the fact... All great computers like Ibuypower and Alienware are all pc. And windows is more compatible in software....
Wisdom the unconditional love of philosophy STOP sign.

Vain, ego is not vanity as it is what men shave in and some women put on there outside mask, love is a need and lust are wants. Narcissist and self loathing have nothing to offer another but sorrow. What is a friend I ask myself, well a friend isn't much by them self because one friend would get tired and worn out. So a friend is someone that can be there own friend first off. A friend knows that their own health be it there mental health our there physical health or even there spiritual health is a burden of responsibility. Just like any other position of authority. So maybe a friend is someone that just knows this and does what they can to live up to it as best they can. Love exists to love another. http://www.thesaurus.com...
Wisdom the unconditional love of philosophy STOP sign.

Another adaptation of a loveless life is a pointless life. I love myself, I think am grand, when I'm all alone I hold my hand. I think one day I'll marry me and try and raise a family. First verse. I love myself, I think am grand, when I'm all alone I hold my hand. Second verse. I think one day I'll marry me and try and raise a family.
Wisdom the unconditional love of philosophy STOP sign.

Are you a narcissist? Why do you think that you are grand? You mentioned that you will marry yourself, but then you said that you will look for someone to raise a family together. That means you understand that you do need to love and marry someone, and raise a family with him/her, but you try to deny that. Maybe you think that you are the best person in the world. Perhaps you want to tell the world how great you are, but you can't love yourself. According to Cambridge dictionary, love means to like another adult very much and be romantically and sexually attracted to them, or to have strong feelings of liking a friend or person in your family, or to like something very much. You are yourself, not someone else, not an object. So it is wrong to say that you love yourself. You can't love yourself.
Wisdom the unconditional love of philosophy STOP sign.

I love myself; Don't you need to before you can love another or at least be your own friend as to like yourself. As I like to feel pretty inside. I am so grand, when I'm alone I hold my hand; I comfort myself in hardship when no one else does or can. As when I go to sleep and awake I like who I am. I think one day I'll marry me and try and raise a family; look for someone that has the same sort of interests and we both try and raise a family together. What do you think of that interpretation?
Wisdom the unconditional love of philosophy STOP sign.

Friends are people, they have their ow feelings and emotion, that's why they can understand your feelings. You can't marry yourself, you need another person to raise a family with you. Having self confidence is definitely a good thing, but there is no prefect person in the world, everything has his/her strength and weaknesses. Marrying someone means that you and your wife/husband can cooperate together in raising a family, and learn from each other's strength. Not everyone can comfort themselves in hardships. Sometimes we do need others to help us, as our ability is limited, having more people to help means greater chance to solve the problem.
The U.S is the most most technologically innovative country in the world.

- Dear opponent, forgive me for the considerably early response. I was busy with school. Anyways, let's start summing this up.Rebuttals: Arguing whether iPhones are one of the most technologically innovative and comfortable phones is debatable. Personally, I dislike iPhones. I could argue that the Samsung Galaxy SV is much more technologically innovative, but there are also a lot of good phones that Japan produces as well. Some of them are the biggest ones on the market. The source that I will be using will be techradar, and they actually have placed an iPhone as one of the most innovative phones on the 8th place out of 10 phones. Most of them are Sony devices, meaning that they were manufactured and produced in Japan. The phone that I will present you is the Sony Xperia 72 which was ranked 3rd on the list (1). Sources:[1]: http://www.techradar.com...Sony Xperia: This is a smartphone that was manufactured by the Sony Entertainment Company. It was out on the Market since October 2008. This phone contains computational microprocessors, something that is used in our computers. This phone has an 8.1 mega pixel camera. It beat phones like HTC and iPhones on the market this year. Meaning that it sold much more than the iPhone and had more technological advances, including being waterproof (1).Sources:[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org... ITRON: ITRON is the most widely used computer system in the world; it is used more than windows, unix, and linux. This is a Japanese computer system that first started out as a Real Time Operating System aka TRON. TRON was first created and used in 1984 to create a better and more open computer system environment. Tron was first in the computer operating world; it survived marketing damages from windows, linux, and unix, but still thrived to be the first in the market. This system is used in phones, computers, credit card machines ATMS, etc (1).Sources:[1]: http://www.linuxinsider.com... Fastest Japanese supercomputer: Of course I can't forget to add this. This is the fastest Japanese supercomputer in the world! It is known as the Fujitsu K computer. It was built and first used in 2004 Kobe, Japan. It is now being built in Hamburg, Germany. The computer's calculation speed is 8 quadrillion calculation per second! This supercomputer consists of 80,000 CPUS and 8 cores for each CPU (1).Sources:[1]: http://www.cnet.com...
The U.S is the most most technologically innovative country in the world.

Thanks for answering my topic. I will argue that America has always created amazing and useful products. We have always been innovating and creating. Here are my examples: 1.iPhone Made By: Apple, Incorporated Announced: January 9, 2007. The iPhone has been one of the most popular cellphones ever made. The first iPhone had a touchscreen, which didn't require a stylus. It had a 2 megapixel camera, ability to view music and videos, along with a browser. In many movies, tv shows, and pop culture, the iPhone is very prominent. It sold one million in seventy four days after launch. When anybody thinks of Apple, they think iPhone. Heres a link to Apple's iPhone page on January 11, 2007. Source: http://web.archive.org... Heres the link to the iPhone page now: http://www.apple.com... It has advanced so far. This is what America does. 2. Microsoft Windows Made By: Microsoft, Corporation Released: November 20,1985 Windows is the world's most used operating system on the planet. It is used in many countries and many governments. Windows XP and Windows 7 are some popular one. It is easy, inexpensive, and very versatile. There are about 3,500 models of Winodws laptops. Thats not even counting tablets and desktops. The computer I am using has Windows. Maybe your even using Windows to write your response? The Machine Designed by Hewlett- Packard "HP" Completion by 2020 The Macine is a new product from H.P that will be able to function as aserver and analytical machine with the capabilities of an entire warehouse. Up to a Petaflop of storage and it will have no wires. It will use photonics.It's truly amazing. Here is the Youtube video and others http://youtu.be... Here it is America at its finest. I await my opponents argument.
The U.S is the most most technologically innovative country in the world.

-Thank you for choosing such an interesting to topic to discuss. I will argue that the US might have one of the most innovative technological advances, but I will have to say that there are countries that are much more technologically innovative than the US. The country that I will present is Japan. Argument Japan: I will argue that Japan has THE best/invents THE best technological devices and machinery on the planet. Japan is even considered as the number one most technological country in the world. Japan invented dimensional elevators, exclusive cars, phones, computer systems, and as for weaponry they are currently building gun dam units that would be capable of flying in air. Japan is home for Sony products, Nissan cars, Fujitsu and Toshiba. Japan is currently the number one in this field. I will provide some of their inventions (1).Sources:[1]: http://smashingtopten.com...Mattress built with a fan: This is a mattress that has a fan attached to it. During summers, it is very useful invention due to the intense heat Japan experiences on a regular basis. The price for this invention is reasonable, it only costs $300. The manufacturer of this product is a clothes company called Kuchofuku. The fan is active for eight hours, and you only pay 30 cents for it each month (2).Sources:[2]: http://images.businessweek.com...H-II Transfer Vehicle: This is a space vehicle used for delivering supplies to different spacecrafts. It commonly supplies to the Japanese experiment spacecraft called Kibo and the International Space Station. This spacecraft doesn't need any crew members to operate its systems. The probe is 9.4 meters. 4.4 meters in diameter. It weighs 10,500 kilograms. The weight of the launch payload is 6,000 kg. This probe is able to fly for 100 hours (3).Sources:[3]:http://en.wikipedia.org...Nissan GTR Track Edition: This is a Japanese car that was first released in 2007. It is a successor for Nissan Skyline GT-R. This is a sports car with a 2-door coupe and its platform is a Premium Midship. The engine is a 3.8L VR38DETT twin-turbo V-6. It also has a 6-speed semi-automatic dual clutch transmission. The length is 4,671 mm. The width is 1,895 mm. The height is 1,372 mm. The curb weight is 3,840 lbs (4).Sources:[4]: http://en.wikipedia.org...;
miracles occur, but not to atheists

I believe miracles due in fact occur to atheists. For example there is a whole list of celebrity atheists, and some of them are Mark Twain, Angelina Jolie, Hugh Hefner, Steven Hawking (one of the better minds the world has ever seen), and alot more. And these people did have some miraculous things happen to them. List of other atheists. http://www.celebatheists.com...