The scriptures teach that a child of God can't fall (eternal security or "once saved always saved")

First, let me point out that Dan has no idea what a strawman argument actually is. I have built statements which are contradictory to the Bible and perverted the Gospel to support my false doctrine. I have clearly backed up my statements. However, even if I had that is not a strawman. In the first round, Dan created a strawman argument against me, creating an argument that I don't believe and then refuting it because it's easier to refute than the real doctrine of eternal security. He also clearly misrepresents my arguments as well. Not only that, but he brings to the table ad hominem attacks, accusing me of twisting Scripture and being a blind follower. His case is not very strong and he knows it.There is no indication that spiritual death is in view here. In fact, there's a good example of Christians committing a sin that leads to death in Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5:1-10). These two lied to the Holy Spirit and were struck dead. There is no indication they lost their salvation, but they died physically for their sin.Yes, our sins are forgiven if we confess, but I think under certain circumstances unconfessed sin will be forgiven. A genuine Christian will confess of his sins to God. However, suppose he is driving and someone cuts him off. He swears and yells at the driver and though he immediately regrets his behavior, dies in a car wreck before he has a chance to repent of it. God is a just God. He knows that believer made a mistake. That sin will be forgiven just like any other."Your position says Paul is too stupid to know..."No, you are putting words in my mouth. One could say that your position says that Christ is not powerful enough to keep us from stumbling."God will not take away our salvation. Also, He will never allow another to take it."Let's look at the definition of lose. "to come to be without (something in one's possession or care), through accident, theft, etc.; to fail inadvertently to retain (something) in such a way that it cannot be immediately recovered." [1]Even if you can willfully walk away from your salvation, this is not losing it. You don't lose something on purpose. You still cannot lose your salvation. My point stands that a genuine believer would not commit a sin so heinous you could, potentially, lose your salvation.The passage in Acts still does not indicate he was a genuine believer. Again, as it says in James, even the demons believe -- and tremble. He was also baptized, which does not mean he was saved. Truly, he could not have been genuinely saved because he didn't fully understand what it meant to be saved. He thought the Holy Spirit could be bought with money, and Peter told him he had not part nor portion in the matter as his heart was not right with God. He was taken in by the signs and wonders that were being done.Idolatry was still a sin. Paul admonished us not to commit a whole plethora of sins. Sins are dangerous to the unsaved because they condemn you to Hell, and sins are dangerous for the saved because they keep us from a right relationship with God. God will not even hear our prayers if there are unconfessed sins in our heart. Christians will come upon many temptations, but God will always provide the way out."...and his blind followers including you keytarhero..."Nice ad hominem attack.Paul doesn't say he should become a "castaway." I don't know what version of the Bible you use, but the NASB (which is considered the most accurate word-for-word translation) uses the word "disqualified," which fits better with the analogy of running the race that Paul was using, if you read the passage in context. He was talking about how we run for an imperishable crown. If he becomes disqualified, it would be for his reward in Heaven, not for salvation itself. Also, as a preacher of the gospel, he did not want to teach one thing and then do another, which would invalidate the words he was teaching to them.I do not consider myself better than Paul. In fact, I can relate with Paul in many ways. But you are constantly reading into the Scriptures what is simply not there. My opponent just doesn't quit. I have not shown any indication that my ego is inflated.First of all, Hymenaeus and Alexander did not have "Bible-believing" faith. The Bible had not been compiled yet. In fact, the New Testament hadn't even been written by then. The only Scriptures they would have actually had faith in were the Old Testament Scriptures, and the few Scriptures of the New Testament which were being circulated and accepted as inspired at the time. Again, even if you can willingly walk away from your salvation, this is not "losing" your salvation as you can't lose something on purpose. I have already outlined the difference between simple belief and saving faith. I know temptations are part of the Christian life. I have never stated otherwise. Of course I get tempted, and yes I yield to temptation at times. I have not "lost" my salvation because of it; I repent, God forgives me, and we move on. You are, again, creating a strawman argument.Now Dan attempts to understand my logic and fails miserably. This is the most epic of strawman arguments he has created against me thus far:Sin separates us from God. It separated Adam and Eve from God in the original sin, and the fact that we are conceived into sin means that we are separated from God. If we die in that state, we will go to Hell. That's where Jesus comes into the picture. Now that Jesus has died on the cross, He is our mediator between God and man. When we come to a saving faith in Christ, He now forgives us our sins. However, sin still keeps us apart from God. When we sin, God does not hear our prayers (Psalm 66:18). We must be in a right relationship with God in order for Him to hear us, and this includes forsaking sin and living lives that are pleasing to Him. I have also not said a "genuine believer" will not commit any sin. You are blatantly lying and misrepresenting my position. I said a genuine believer will not want to sin, but will still stumble into it. This means he won't sin on purpose, but he will still sin because he still battles his sin nature.I never said a genuine believer will die with his sins, but it is conceivable a genuine believer could die with unconfessed sins. Death has a habit of sneaking up on us. If a believer dies before he has had a chance to repent of his sins, God will still forgive that believer because Jesus died for all of our sins, past, present, and future. If God is really the way you've made Him out to be, I would be in constant fear for my own salvation. I doubt even you would make it to Heaven based on your perception of God. You'd better make absolutely sure you're repenting 24/7 because you wouldn't want to slip up and forget even one sin, lest God hold that against you and condemn you to Hell.My statements on Acts 8 were evidence. Notice how Dan conveniently does not emphasize the verses that prove my point and not his.Acts 13:43 -- my statement here stands. They were admonished to continue in the grace of God as a reminder that God works within them, not as a warning that God will withdraw His grace from them.2 Cor. 2:1 -- The letter was sent to a church, but not everyone who claims to be a Christian is saved, and not everyone in the church is saved.Phil. 2:12 -- I did address the real situation here. We are to work out our salvation with fear and trembling because it's God who works within us, not because we're supposed to constantly fear that we've lost our salvation (as I've already established, we can't). I have also already addressed his first round arguments. Whether or not Dan is convinced is immaterial. What matters is if the reader is convinced, and I believe I have adequately demonstrated why Dan's argument fails.Again, Dan doesn't understand what a logical fallacy is, especially a strawman. He has continually created strawman arguments against me, made ad hominem attacks, and misrepresented my position.[1] http://dictionary.reference.com...;