The earth is flat not spherical

The age old "ships go over the curve" has been disproved several times over since the invention of the telescope, but for the sake of this debate, I'll show you some videos and provide a simple explanation. I can understand why people long ago believed in a spherical earth. They saw boats appear to go over the horizon in all four directions. At a distance, the ship"s hull seems to disappear before the sails and those ancient geographers felt this would only happen if the ship was dipping behind the convex curvature of the spherical earth. This assumption is actually incorrect and if they would have timed or measured the distance that each boat had gone before dipping below the so-called curvature, they would have seen that the "ball" they thought they were on was far too small for their other calculations. The reason for this is simply the result of perspective. This exact thing will happen on earth whenever something is moving away from the observer. Take a vehicle for example, on a long and flat stretch of a highway. If you watched a car that was driving away from you, the car would appear to slowly get lower and the tires would morph into the road. Soon the body of the vehicle would appear to be scraping the road. So, one may assume that the car has gone over some sort of curvature, but again, this is not correct. One way to prove this is to bring out a pair of binoculars or even a telescope. When the object in question begins to morph or "sink" below the horizon, looking at it again with the aiding instrument will bring the item back into full view. Did the telescope manage to bend over the horizon to see the item in full again? Is it magically dragging the entire ship backwards over the horizon? Of course not. The binoculars were able to allow you to see further and therefore the item reappeared in full to your perspective. So, the next time someone tells you that the ship going over the horizon is proof that we live on a globe" tell them about a little thing we here in reality must deal with called the Law of Perspective. The boat that they think has disappeared from sight can be seen again through a telescope and this was in no way caused by it going over a hump of curved water. Which as we know, is impossible anyway! The natural property of water is that it ALWAYS goes flat. ALWAYS. The railroad tracks going away from you don't get closer together, coming to a point, it only looks this way. It works on a vertical axis too. The telephone poles do not drop in height, they only seem to. This, in combination with atmospheric refraction, which is very strong close to the ocean's surface, where waves constantly break, throwing salty water in the air. This bends the light even more, morphing any light that comes through. So that the ocean actually disappears at a certain point, and takes everything with it, blending it with the sky, this is where your mirage comes in. A globe earth proponent filmed this event, broke it up and put it online. this guy evaluates the entire video, and the results are very interesting. . https://youtu.be... Reason 2. Constellations This is probably one of the most ridiculous proofs I've heard yet. You think that just because we don't see the same stars as someone thousands of mile away from us, this somehow proves that we live on a ball. In the flat earth model, the stars are close. They are unthinkably huge balls of fire at unthinkably far distances. Because of this, they follow the same Visual laws as boats, the moon, the sun, everything. I feel the need now to provide a FAQ for anyone who hasn't done any research so that this debate doesn't get redundant for me, this is probably my 5th time explaining this. Note that all of this sites views are not mine, this is merely a reference point for baby steps. please further refute from there unless you have some new information. Also a video refutation to the top 10 ways popular videos everybody brings up in the google search, it's time to stop being lazy. . https://wiki.tfes.org...;By the way, you do realize you are proudly waving the flat earth map on your flag? Lack of intelligence lol. Since burden of proof is shared, I would like to give 3 Empirical proofs of a flat earth.1. Flight pathsSome flight paths go in very unusual directions on the globe model, but make perfect sense on what is majorly accepted as the flat earth map (of course, the map can be wrong) I use Delta airlines, as this is the most reputable, and longer lasting airline. When traveling from Argentina to Sydney, every flight makes stops in North America, which is very much out of the way. This distance, on a globe, is about the same distance as Argentina to Alaska, but the Sydney flight takes twice as long, and matches up perfectly with the flat earth map. There are many instances where flight paths exactly follow the flat earth map, and look retarded on a globe. I have found at least a half a dozen so far. This is empirical evidence of a flat earth. A little preface for my next proof is some information we weren't indoctrinated on: the actual curvature expected from a ball that is 25,000 miles in circumference. For some reason, we are not taught this in school. Why not? All they can say is it's so ridiculously massive, that's why there's no curve. Every high school student should be able to cite the allowed curvature over any given distance, and be able to demonstrate it in simple experimentation, but we don't, and we can't. The formula for calculating the curvature of the earth is simple. I'm sure you're going to fact check this, because everyone has to, and no one can believe it. For the first mile you should allow 8". Every mile thereafter, you will need to square the mile. So 2 miles should yield 32" of curvature. At three miles, the average human shouldn't be able to see the ground past this point. I'll let Dr Samuel Rowbotham explain it. "If the earth is a globe, and is 25,000 English statute miles in circumference, the surface of all standing water must have a certain degree of convexity--every part must be an arc of a circle. From the summit of any such arc there will exist a curvature or declination of 8 inches in the first statute mile. In the second mile the fall will be 32 inches; in the third mile, 72 inches, or 6 feet, as shown in the diagram below. "Let the distance from T to figure 1 represent 1 mile, and the fall from 1 to A, 8 inches; then the fall from 2 to B will be 32 inches, and from 3 to C, 72 inches. In every mile after the first, the curvature downwards from the point T increases as the square of the distance multiplied by 8 inches. The rule, however, requires to be modified after the first thousand miles. "The following table will show at a glance the amount of curvature, in round numbers, in different distances up to 100 miles. Statute Miles AwayMaths= Drop1mile 1 x 1 x 8 =8 Inches2 miles 2 x 2 x 8 =32 Inches3 miles 3 x 3 x 8 / 12 =6 Feet4 miles 4 x 4 x 8 / 12 =10 Feet5 miles 5 x 5 x 8 / 12 =16 Feet6 miles 6 x 6 x 8 / 12 =24 Feet7 miles 7 x 7 x 8 / 12 =32 Feet8 miles 8 x 8 x 8 / 12 =42 Feet9 miles 9 x 9 x 8 / 12 =54 Feet10 miles 10 x 10 x 8 / 12 =66 Feet"To find the curvature in any number of miles not given in the table, simply square the number, multiply that by 8, and divide by 12. The quotient is the curvation required. " As you can see, the curvature of the earth should be very noticeable, for instance, when flying from California to Hawaii, about 2,500 miles, you are flying over a 760 mile high hump of water. This math has been confirmed in cad software. Curvature can be proved wrong with simple magnification techniques like telescopes, binoculars, and the flat earther's favorite tool, the Nikon p900.2. Distances sightedIn an instance where telephoto lenses are not even necessary, a "mirage" was photographed from Michigan overlooking the Chicago skyline, a span of 60 miles, which should be 2,400 ft below the supposed curvature of the earth. When we look at the heights of the buildings in Chicago, we find that The tallest building at 1,450 ft is the Sears tower. We should not be able to see ANY of Chicago from Michigan. Now before you go agreeing with the whole bs mirage thing, think to yourself what an actual mirage looks like, usually inverted, mirrored, partially opaque, and generally distorted, Google some images of actual mirages. Conditions are perfect indeed. This is not a mirage. There are many instances of long distances being seen, and this is something that anyone can confirm, and is empirical evidence of a flat earth. . http://www.abc57.com... 3. Reflection of light on flat waterStating the obvious, the natural physics of water is to find and maintain a level surface, and has never been shown to be able to curl around a spinning ball (this "fact" is introduced young so it doesn't sound as ridiculous as it does now). Take a look at sunsets on water as the sun kisses the water, the reflection extends in a straight line, extending all the way to the viewer, or edge of the water. Warp a piece of sheet metal and hold it up to a bulb, you will never reproduce what is seen in water until you flatten the metal. This is empirical evidence of a flat earth. I look forward to my opponent's "intelligent" responses.