Resolved: In the United States, juveniles charged with violent felonies ought to be treated as adult

You big showoff, you still dont understand me huh? "Con 1 defence: The basic premise behind these Contentions is that it's hypocritical to treat Jueviniles as Adults in terms of Crime and not anything else. My opponent basically states that because it's murder it changes everything. THIS IS WHEN I REFER TO MY CONTENTION 3. During the adole scence period, the brain is still forming and learning right from wrong. If in a negative environment, what we in society has come to know as bad, can be known as 'good' for the child. As Gorski stated, Because the brains of juveniles, particularly the frontal lobes, are not fully developed, youths lack the ability to perform critical adult functions, such as plan, anticipate consequences, and control impulses. "This is the premise beneath society's across-the-board restrictions on voting rights, alcohol and tobacco consumption, and serving in the armed forces," "Con 3 defence: I've already stated before an argument my opponent ignored: This applies to instances of abuse and violence in a bad environment, which are no doubt off the charts in this age. My opponent seems to not understand the fact that violent felonies don't only apply to murder, but they apply to cases such as Robberies as well." I've told you many times already that children go to school to learn from right to wrong. Parents CANT prevent them from entering school and since that can't happen, at an age of 14, i doubt you cant see the difference of whats right and whats wrong. Also, we've argued about the age of juveniles and I still claim that childrens under the age of 14 are considered child and that people at the age of 14-17 are considered juveniles. Your argument wont change mine and my source wont change yours anyway. Yes, i know their brains are still in development, but at 13, i doubt you cant see the difference between whats wrong and right. "Stealing overlaps with Robbing. " It all depends whether its an armed robbery or candy stealing. Candy stealing isnt a serious crime and the shop owner may even overlook it. A bank robbery instead is a serious crime and if a child even plans to do something like that, they are thinking as adults the moment they planned this heist. "Again I refer to my Con 1: Because the brains of juveniles, particularly the frontal lobes, are not fully developed, youths lack the ability to perform critical adult functions, such as plan, anticipate consequences, and control impulses." They lack critical adult functions, but they somehow learned to kill with a knife or shoot with a pistol, yeah right. We are talking about 14 year olds here, they CAN anticipate consequences for their actions. Everyone learned what the JAIL is. "If this is the case, then I agree that they should be punished. However, I really doubt that a kid would murder unprovoked if they had no mental problem. If provoked, I provide the argument above." Prove it that most kids that committed murders are being provoked into killing. Because now, you only list the killings from the childrens with mental problem. (Oh well, you cant prove it anymore) "A mental problem DOES excuse crime. Here I basically repeat my Con 3. The person responsible for causing the mental problem/misunderstanding (that something is right and wrong) should be held responsible. Which is why we should fix it via Rehab." The fact that childrens doesnt know whats right and wrong at the age of 14 is considered VERY RARE. Crimes involving mental problems could still be prevented, insanity not. Parents influencing their childs are considered guilty as you said, however, a 14 year old cant be influenced that easily by their parents as they understand the concept of right and wrong. "Jueviniles apply to the age of 10-18, and in some states even younger. I state in my OPENING PARAGRAPH before that a Juevinile at the age of 13 was tried as an adult in the first place. My opponent isn't very thorough in the reading in my case, which is why I already know the outcome of this debate:" Your source states nothing about the age, only the punishment against juveniles. And here i have my proof that juveniles are considered 14-17 old: http://www.fair-debt-collection.com... " So if I smoke a cigaratte I have the mental capacaity as an Adult. Yeah, OK. OK." Of course not, smoking has nothing to do with your mentality. Serious crimes however, are something that only adults can think of. (rape, bank robbery, etc.) By the way, didn't take the effort to Content your 4th, can't find it anywhere and even if i had found, it already has been answered towards you. "Rehab is a form of punishment. And the juevnile is kept in a facility for a year as well. The MAMA organaziation is focused on juevile on juevnile violence. The number of people in an organzation isn't felective on the quailty of thier views and argments. " Hmm, no comment about it then. Its their decision. "Uh, yeah, we are talking about 10-18 year olds here...and sometimes even younger" I said 14-17 year, stop repeating its 10-18. "JUEVNILES BRAINS ARENT FULLY DEVELOPED. ADULT BRAINS ARE. WHICH IS WHY ADULTS SHOULDEN'T RECIEVE A SECOND CHANCE (in some terms.)" TELL ME THEN HOW DID THEY LEARN TO STAB AND SHOOT AS ADULTS? CERTAINLY YOU NEVER LEARNED TO KILL IN YOUR CHILDHOOD. "I was only saying that Robbery broadens the horizon greatly in terms of bad influences. Not that it wasen't serious. Let me ask you, dinokiller. Who has more ifluence on a child? A parent, sibiling, a friend, or a teacher? Yeah, I'd go with the former. Again I say that juevniles are the ages of 10-18, and sometimes younger." 14-17 year cough cough* Seriously though, influencing a 10 year old is pretty hard too. Summary: Gotta rush on this, but now he somehow indirectly insulted me, but o well. He claims that i ignored their points while i answered them indirectly, clearly he didnt took the time to understand my points. I leave the votes to you voters.