Joseph Stalin

I will refute my opponents round 2 contentions first.R1: Ended the NazisOne good deed cannot be put over a plethora of bad ones. Also, on could argue he was worse than the Nazis. Let's first argue one good deed doesn't justify a plethora of bad ones:If I killed 100 people, but killed one man in defense of another, am I viewed as a good person? Sure, I am a temporary good Samaritan, but one good deed vs 100 ----> 99 bad deeds. So really 1 deed in ending the Nazis doesn't justify him.One reason that hinders Stalin worse than Hitler was private life. "What was special about Stalin's paranoid reign was that he sought to destroy private life and private feelings – family life – in ways that Hitler never did." [1] Also, Hitler, believe is or not, won his power through an election, with 37% of the vote. [2] The Communist took power under Lenin with a coup, and they didn't really have popular support, so it was not a fair election. [2] When it comes to ruthless violence Stalin was worse. [2] Stalin killed 23 million people, Hitler killed 12, Stalin is worse. [3]Stalin was worse anyway so...R2: Industrialization and MedicineLet's start with the argument medicine. What is the source? In the USSR their healthcare institutions where 100 years behind their US competitors. [4] 78% of the AIDS virus spread in Russia was from dirty needles! [4] Medical care in the USSR, as it was terrible, was basically turned into a black market. [5]When Stalin industrialized their economy the standard living of the workers dropped. [6] [7] It became illegal to leave work, even for 20 minutes, as that was grounds for being fired, and the work week was increased to 7 days. [6] Also, the industrialization caused massive famines called the holodomor [8] [9] [10] So sure he made industrialization at the cost of the worker and food...Defense of my arguments:RC1: Labor Camps"Approximately 14 million people passed through the Gulag "labour camps" from 1929 to 1953. A further 6-7 million were deported and exiled to remote areas of the USSR, and 4-5 million passed through "labour colonies"." [11]That was under Stalin. Further more your argument is the army did it, well in those society's you have 1 man in control. Stalin, if he was a good person, would have ordered a stop. But he actually would have began these orders as he was the one that made the gulags. The people sent to the gulags where peasants that where viewed individualistic. [12] Now, as I stated last round, being individualistic was illegal, and Stalin was the one that made these laws. So technically it was HIS law that forced people into these camps. RC3: Murders. You might as well have conceded. 200,000 is still a lot of people. Also, this can be refuted. Also, Stalin in just one instance signed one paper which killed 21,000 people. [13] As you admit, he industrialized, as I have proven the industrialization caused many famines, and 14 million people under his rule starved to death, [14], therefore he actually killed at lest 14 million through harsh economic plans. His total kill count is 20 million. [14] He deported 28 million, and sent 18 to the gulag. [14] RC4: Famines1. source?2. I refer to defense of my arguments as I really do not want to repeat3. Also even if your right, then doesn't that mean he infringed on public protest and freedom of speech?4. Also it could be linked to the industrialization as they hated the working hours, so basically I still win the point.RC4: 3rd world countryIt is possible to have a populous live in 3rd world and have a good military and space program. The standing of living in the east European countries under communism was much lower then in the west. [15]MY point is you provided 2 industries that worked well, poor living standards + famines + low incomes ---> 3rd world country. Having a good military doesn't mean your standard of living makes you better.See my hitler vs Stalin arguments. Also foot note your info, as I cannot see hat is sourced and what isn't.Conclusion:Stalin was a ruthless killer that ran the country into major famines, and poor healthcare. I have debunked cons arguments while defending mine, and as the resolution is vague my case has cored more areas of Stalin's regime so I have fulfilled this. I suggest opponent has the BOP as most people agree with me, and well my arguments are common knowledge. I urge a con vote.sources:http://www.guardian.co.uk... [1]http://www.economist.com... [2]http://www.city-data.com... [3]http://mises.org... [4]http://www.fee.org... [5]http://en.wikipedia.org... [6]http://www.cyberussr.com... [7]http://www.news.ualberta.ca... [8]Stanislav Kulchytsky, "Holodomor of 1932–1933 as genocide: the gaps in the proof", Den, 17 February 2007 [9]http://news.bbc.co.uk... [10]http://en.wikipedia.org... [11]http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk... [12]https://www.cia.gov... [13] http://www.moreorless.au.com... [14]http://www.foreignpolicy.com... [15