Liberals in the United States are also the enemies of the proletariat/working class.

Round 4: Defense"My opponent claims that liberals support social progress, but at a faster rate than conservatives. This seems to imply that liberals want to go as far as communism, when I have never heard of a liberal state that they ultimately want to go to communism or socialism. They tend to want to stop at minor social and economic change. This is not enough to help the working class and only does so very little. I've never heard of a liberal who eventually wants to get to a society where workers control the means of production. Perhaps my opponent can offer a study on the views of liberals that indicate majority want to eventually move to socialism or communism. " CapitalistslaveFirst, some liberals do want to go as far socialism. President Barrack Obama conservatives opponents have called him a socialist. "“Thank You, Comrade Obama, For Saving the Children From the Menace of Guns, Family, Liberty, Work, and Other Outdated Values.”" [1]""The reason he's being called a socialist it that he wants to provide health care to people, he wants to provide other benefits and opportunity, he wants for everyone to have an equal share of the pie."" [2]This ploy seemed to backfire as seen in Michael Moore's capitalism a love story, and the fact that President Obama served two consecutive terms. "as well as portraying Barrack Obama as a Socialist." [3]This indicates many liberals want socialism, even if they are closet socialists, too afraid of the stigma associated with the word socialist. "They tend to want to stop at minor social and economic change." CapitalistslaveBecause change for the better at a too fast a speed is deferential. Also, because the political opponents' of liberals would seize upon the opportunity. "This is not enough to help the working class and only does so very little." CapitalistslaveI think affirmative action has done a lot for minorities. You have to remember how bad things can be, unregulated leaded gasoline just for starters. "For nearly six decades, gasoline companies ignored the known dangers associated with lead to get rich. " [4]"I've never heard of a liberal who eventually wants to get to a society where workers control the means of production." CapitalistslaveIf you have read Karl Marx's doctrine you would know that we cannot see too far ahead of us. That we can't percieve communism clearly from a capitalistic view. "Perhaps my opponent can offer a study on the views of liberals that indicate majority want to eventually move to socialism or communism. " CapitalistslaveMoving to communism from capitalism would be inconsistent with Karl Marx's views. We cannot clearly view communism from a capitalistic state. "My opponent also seemed to imply that conservatives would also support moving towards socialism, but at a much slower rate. Again, this needs validation. " CapitalistslaveI don't hear of any conservatives that want to bring back slavery. Abolishment of slavery would have been considered very liberal in the early days of America. You can call capitalism slavery, but I think that devalues the word. Remember, slavery often meant whips and chains in the past. Neo-conservatives are moving slowly towards a more progressive state. The exception would be the alt right. "In addition, even if the groups' intentions are good, that doesn't matter in terms of whether they are enemies of the workers. If they support items that hurt the workers, even if it's with good intentions, that makes them enemies of the workers because they are causing things to be worse off for them." CapitalisticslaveThis makes little sense to me. My dog often performs destructive actions that makes me worse off. I wouldn't call my dog my enemy. The same goes for some of my family members and friends. Knocking over an object and so forth. Intention matters. Look at the definitions for enemy, all of them require intent, except definition 1c. something destructive or injurious in its effects. I knew in the first round we should defined ally and enemy. To have to bring up definitions now, is awkward to say the least. "en·e·my (ĕn′ə-mē)n. pl. en·e·mies1.a. One who feels hatred toward, intends injury to, or opposes another; a foe.b. One who opposes or is hostile to an idea or cause: an enemy of democracy.c. Something destructive or injurious in its effects: "Art hath an enemy called Ignorance" (Ben Jonson).2.a. A hostile power or force, such as a nation.b. A member or unit of such a force.3. A group of foes or hostile forces. See Usage Note at collective noun." [5]Furthermore, even if we go with definition 1c, there are benefits to a multi party system. Each party keeps the other parties in check. "The co-existence of different political parties bound to express the people’s will through constitutional means is the most effective way towards progress in any nation – a practice which is entirely foreign to us Cubans." [6]If you perform a quick search, almost all comparisons are between two and multi-party systems. That being said, there is very little desire or benefit from a single party system. "What are the advantages and disadvantages of a multiparty system?" [7]Even if you disagree with everything a political party presents, there is benefits to having more than one political party. In this way all political parties are allies of the working class. Finally, I don't see how adhering to Karl Marx's theories will help the workers. "Why the insistence upon violent revolution? Here’s Marx in an 1848 newspaper article: “there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.”" [8]There is a reason people distance themselves from Karl Marx, socialism, and communism.Sources1. http://www.huffingtonpost.com...2. http://www.cnsnews.com...3. http://www.imdb.com...4. http://content.time.com...5. http://www.thefreedictionary.com...6. http://www.havanatimes.org...7. https://www.reference.com...#8. http://www.stephenhicks.org...