God exists.

"Finally i would like to note the abusive nature of this round my opponent sets it up with such wide parameters to make it extremely hard on me." That's the point, isn't it? ;) Thanks for your response. I will start by addressing your first issue, apparently your exaggerated humility: "I in my short years of living have yet to perform any actions that have truly impacted humanity on the collective level" In my definition, I did not specify the extent of influence something must have to exist; I specified a qualitative property about the object discussed, but you are arguing with me about a quantitative property. True, you might not have too noticeable an influence on humanity, but you have some influence. Just by participating in this debate you are leaving a mark on history, however microscopic a mark that may be. My original meaning of the definition of "existence" could be explained very simply with the well known question: If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? I understand the scientific arguments that would prove the answer to be "yes" for this question - however when we're discussing the existence of God, we must not look to scientific arguments but rather to philosophic arguments in order to have a fair debate - and in those existential terms, it would be very easy for me to argue that, really, the answer to the above question is "no." If no one knows that the tree exists, than it doesn't exist, because existence is a thing that is only important to specify in relation to human perception. This "human perception" can be replaced by "human influence," and thus we come back to our original definition, which is still perfectly valid. "However God has not influenced Society on Neither the Political nor Historical level." If you do a quick search on Google for statistics about people's belief in God, you will find that, as of today, the number of adults who believe in God range from 85 to 95 percent worldwide. That is just about 6 billion people. Many of those people believe that they are doing God's will. Do you truly believe that the beliefs of 6 billion people have no influence on society? The crusades are just a single example of many wars that were fought in the name of God. Sure, there were ulterior motives, but the fact is that if these people did not disagree on how to serve God there would have been no war. Gods existence is crucial to the undertaking of these wars. Of course, back then, this was an extremely obvious fact almost to the point that it was irrelevant. In your argument about God's influence in politics you said: "However being that these religions are the ones effecting politics not God this argument collapses." This statement does not make sense as it is self-contradicting. Religions are simply variations of what "God" is, but they all derive from the same single idea of God; therefore, your sentence: "However being that these different variations of God are the ones effecting politics not God this argument collapses." ...does not make sense. Despite your arguments the original logic in my case still stands. The basic premise is this: ================== 1. The only requirement for something to "exist" is for it to have an influence on humanity, both on the individual and collective levels 2. Because a great majority of people believe in God, God has a strong influence on humanity both for individuals (who believe in God) and for the collective (on the historic/political level) 3. Because #2 is true, and #1 is true, therefore God exists. Therefore, we should all vote Pro, right? Just kidding; waiting for your replies with bated breath :)