America should not take more extreme measures to win wars.

No, you miss said what I agreed with. If you are a civilian in a war zone, there is a chance you can be killed, so go away and become a refugee. if this action is encouraged than there is no wrong in death for everyone was warned. ok than, how about this, with you being a white guy from new Mexico, if you found yourself with 10 black guys with puffy jackets, and you have a gun and you know they are going to attack you, you are most likely to kill them all even if 3 are innocent. "basically what you state in the second paragraph is that actions of others should be held accountable for all. with that in mind, one of you friends friends firends friends friend, attacked me. I'm gonna attack you for it. does this seem fair to you? yes civilians should not be held accountable for the actions of their government. BUT only to a certain degree." If my friends friends friends friends friend attacked me and was from America, I believe it would be fair, and chances are I'm bigger than you any way and can take you down, and I am collector of tactual armor. GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT? I'm not the government, they are a bunch of democrats, who I don't like any way. where is that I'm saying don't go and rebel your government? All I am saying is don't disrespect your country, and if you want bush and the rest of America to go to hell, than I say leave. America is not founded on everyone is equal, that is communism, America is founded on everyone can strive. you're wrong, for a soldier to defend someone hast to attack. The kinder gardner does to fit here, you might hurt the guys feelings, scaring him for life. With your rant on "might" this is where mentalists come in handy, if you get guys who are observant you can see if the guy has a bomb or a gun or weapons of war. it is true it America can be invaded, but I was talking about in our locations, here in the bay area, only a slow sea invasion in possible, for they have to get through a many military establishments to get here from Mexico or Canada. In new Mexico, they would have to fight through the chicklet sellers, Mexican police and the drug cartels. "'DUH everything is caused by actions, that is like saying "teen pregnancy, oh May gosh we just shouldn't have sex anymore" or "we shouldn't have sex ed anymore." How the heck did you get from not having extreme measures to dictatorship??? For those who protest the war, they aren't enemy, why would we kill them? for the soldiers, if our lives are at stake yea we should apprehend them at least.' I have no idea what you are referring to in the above paragraph for the most part." I was talking about "also yes I'm referring to shell shock, it can be treated, but the fact that the actions caused this, show that they should not be done. you will have a great deal of soldiers whom speak up about it should they be ordered to do what ever. what will you do then if you soldiers turn against you? kill them too? what about American civilians, whom will protest the war, far more then any before? why not switch over to a dictatorship?" "extreme measures are what dictatorships do. they don't care what happens, the only reason they get away with it is because if anyone in their country disagrees, they are killed. America cannot do such actions. the citizens of the us will not stand for something like that to occur. nor would most in the government or the rest of the world for that matter. the only way for America to go to more extreme measures is to become a dictatorship. and kill anyone whom opposes them." You got Obama so we are on the way there. "'for the soldiers, if our lives are at stake yea we should apprehend them at least.' but you stated several times that they should just be killed. you are contradicting yourself again. apprehending potentially dangerous people is what we do now. that is not an extreme measure." I said "for the soldiers, if they stake yea we should apprehend them AT LEAST" note at least, so that means at most kill them. Make people that aren't in military to become a refugee in war zones.