Christians should refrain from going to anti-gay rallies.

http://www.youtube.com... http://www.youtube.com... Conduct: What did I do!? Acting like you've won already, that's condensending surely were at least tied here. Spelling and Grammar: I skipped one word; I'm sorry man Sources: Because you have more? there not more reliable, and one them is a source you took from me. I've added videos this round if that's what you want. these rallies don't seem to have gone too bad. In the second video it even provoked a discussion on the topic were no shouting was involved with some of the people there. Arguments: I still have one round to go. Its sad we did not get to the core of this argument until late in the debate, and I know that's half my fault. We spent most of round 2 different individual witnessing. But the resolution is on Christians refraining from going to anti-gay rallies. Are we accepting we are the only ones who go there, Or are there enough non-Christians that make up the rallies for different reasons that if Christians were no longer present the rallies would still exist? If they still exist even without Christians wont everyone just assume that its the Christians that put it together anyway? You have also confused me about what you want with resolution. So you are not just talking about the rational Christians but the bigots as well. Can those people even safely be called true Christians? If an individual Christians choice is what we concern ourselves with then we can not discount the fact that their will be hateful Christians at hateful rallies always. And with those Christians the only ones with a media public presence they will be the ones the public thinks of when they think of Christians. You have accepted that News only wants to cover it if it had some action there. Surely that small demand can be met with some creativity without violence. The presence of a very charismatic preacher as a speaker might do, or a old cannon firing with actors present to put on a play that metaphorically shows the warring opinions on the matter and then someone sensible intervening so that opinions can be debated peacefully. This debate website does not count as peacefully in your dictionary, and yet you approve of starting this debate to discourse a matter. Are you not afraid of making Christians look unloving because we are not at peace right now? Most who come here I would like to think accept that a strict absence of conflict is not way to go, even in the name of peace. It boils down to how we conflict, We need to be more like Goku in how we set out to do that and less like Vegeta (Dragenball Z). Perhaps DDO can even light the way for us to solve our problem on how to hold a good rally. For an anti-gay rally as shown in Video 2 easily attracts a pro-gay rally. Many enthusiastic supporters on both sides wanting nothing more than to argue it out. give them a stage and you can have a amateur debate tournament be the spectacle that we need to gather media attention. For sure many competitors will give a bad name to both sides, but some that could give us a good name will shine all the more because of it. This of course is not being done right now. We would have to work very hard to make it happen. You are right that little good can be said for the rallies as they are right now. Many republicans are also fed up with the way the GOP is handling there party, however most accept that turning to a third party like the libitarians is not the solution to get what they want, the only way to solve is to fix the party we have right now. This likewise applies to protest rallies we are about fed up with, but the problem doesn't go away by giving up, the format of the rally must be fixed. The only point you have left that these arguments do not refute is that the rallies do not convert gay people into strait. How on Earth could someone ever propose to find out if they are or are not doing that? Evidently any that have converted are afraid to come out as much as Gay's who pretend they are strait are afraid. http://www.lifesitenews.com... If the rally plays any role in a conversion its not likely to happen at the rally for us to take a survey. Ultimately a rallies real purpose is not about conversion, its about presence of resistance to something all of a suddenly being ok. If the ant-gay are not holding rallies, the Gay's surely forever will, until the public and the politicians believe the only people who care about this issue are on the opposite side of the traditional Christian side. Even if we lose and one day homosexuality are accepted on all fronts, the history books need to read the day all the changes were happening the Christians said something, and In a desire that it reads something consistent with our teaching it needs to read we said something against it. So in Conclusion: Something being broke does not justify abandoning it; fix it. http://en.wikipedia.org...(Dragon_Ball)