Prophet muhammad [s.aw] raped aisha

This debate have been interesting so far and I believe that many will learn from the exegesis here. REBUTTING CON'S ARGUMENT. Number 1. I am going to start off this debate by rebutting Con's argument which appears to fall short of the discussion on ground, thereafter, I will present my last point on the discuss and end it with summary. The Con in the third round said and I quote: ------------------------------------------------- *the pro also accused me of quoting the christians' bible which I never did.if the pro really thinks I quoted the bible,let him give the verse[s] and chapter[s] I quoted.[I made mention of jewish talmud which is not the bible]. ------------------------------------------------- I guess he forget when he said this in round 2, ------------------------------------------------- 1-The Bible's Prophets, and even Roman Emperors married girls as young as 8![ 1] 2-Mary got pregnant between the ages of 11 and 14. ------------------------------------------------- Is Mary not a biblical Character? why giving an example of Mary when e talking about Aisha and Muhammed? Number 2. The Con said again: ------------------------------------- *the pro instead of making rebuttals against my points,he chose to make false accusations of things I never did and also made a mistake of categorizing my reference to youtube videos as "IRRELEVANT QUOTATIONS" whereas those references are reliable sources and links not "QUOTATIONS" ------------------------------------- How on earth will the Con accuse me of not providing evidences when I indeed gave several reference from the Islamic literature? and I am still going to give more in this last round. Instead of splashing this debate with youtube link, you can simply summarize what the major point is and give the reference, that is how to reference in a debate. NUMBER 3. Again, it seems the Con does not really understand the subject at hand, I was shocked when he was referring to ADULT INDEPENDENT DECISION and comparing with the relationship between a 54 yr old Muhammed and the 9 old Aisha, he explains below: ------------------------------------ We have so many relationship today not even marriage and sexual intercourse occurs without the consent of either one of the parents of the male or female,THEN SHOULD WE CALL THOSE RELATIONSHIP RAPE?? ------------------------------------ If you care to know, this is the relationship between ADULT who are OLD ENOUGH to take decisions, WHAT SEXUAL DECISION CAN AISHA TAKE AT THE AGE OF 6 or 9? There are lots of his points I can on and on debunking, but, I have to give room for more evidence I have to show in this debate. MY EVIDENCES. NUMBER 1[USE OF LOGIC] I can see the Con is insisting the just because the word "RAPED" was not used indicated that Aisha was not raped. I am going to site two references from the Hadith, Islam second most Holy book, that this ideology is false. We read: ---------------------------------- Narrated Buraida: The prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (part of the war booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)? When we reached the prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Do you hate him for he deserves more than that from the Khumus. [SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 5, Number 637] ---------------------------------- Now, will a slave WILLFULLY GIVE herself to her captor for sexual intercourse, what do you call that not RAPE? Now are we going to conck6de that just because the word "RAPE" was not mentioned means that it was not RAPE? ANOTHER REFERENCE We read again: ------------------------------- Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interruptus)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born". [SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, Number 3371] It is CLEAR from this Hadith t this women were RAPED, yet are we going to conclude that they weren't RAPED just because the word rape not written in here? The interesting thing here is that while they were doing it, Muhammed did not object to it, he allowed them to do it because he never had a problem with it in the first place. NUMBER 2 [DID AISHA CONSENT TO THE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE?] Another thing that the she said was that, if Aisha did not consent the sexual intercourse, she would have mentioned it and state it as well, but of course, this shows the ignorance of the Con about Islamic history and practices. We read from their sources again ------------------------------------------- "The scholars are unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her. The Messenger of Allaah married "Aa"ishah bint Abi Bakr when she was young, six or seven years old, when her father married her to him." - Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses? - Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 12708, Ibn "Abd al-Barr, Al-Istidhkaar, 16/49-50: ------------------------------------------- 3. FINALLY [AISHA'S TESTIMONY] Please read what the young girl had to say about the whole issue? ---------------------------------- Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. ---------------------------------- [Sahih Muslim Bk 8: Number 3311] Against all the evidences presented here, is it still justifying to say that Muhammed did not RAPE Aisha when her consent wasn't sought after in the whole scene, this last Hadith furthers shows that the little girl was not even aware of what was planned about her life. Let us stop these evil men from raping our Children in the name of religion, let us also stop supporting the wicked act of raping little girls and taking advantage of their innocence just as Muhammed did to Aisha. ------------------------------ QUESTIONS FOR THE READERS ------------------------------ 1. Where is the evidence that Aisha consented to the sexual act between herself and Muhammed? 2. Where is it documented in the Hadith that Aisha's father consented to giving his little girl Muhammed? 3. What do you call a situation when a person consent was not sought after before engaging such in sexual intercourse? I rest my pen..