If a creator and an anti-creator do exist then we should not follow the teachings of the bible.

Simple, really. My opponent agrees with Premise one and Premise two thus he concedes that God decides what is good and that Satan creates all other religions. ========= Premise Three ========= My opponent begins by stating that people have free will thus it would be difficult for Satan to actually decide what religion would lead the most people away. My answer is empirically derived. Christianity is by far not the first religion or even close, thus it would stand to reason that having made many different religions in the past Satan would after time get a feel for what people liked and disliked. Also, if Satan made the bible then it is perfectly acceptable that he lied, thus the bible stating man has free will is of little consequence. ========== Premise Four ========== 1. My opponent states that the bible preaches against Satan thus Satan would not make it so. This is fallacious as it is readily apparent to myself and anyone reading this debate that people enjoy knowing that bad people will be punished for their actions. The bible teaches that people who do not follow the will of god will go to Satan and spend the afterlife repenting for what they did. Thus one of the greatest ways for Satan to attract people to his false religion would be to preach about a fallen angel that punishes sinners. (The irony of this is that he uses the bible to preach a moral code that is not true thus everyone is sinning through following the moral code they all believe is right.) 2. "Common sense." This argument would have a great deal of stock in our current debate except for the fact that many many other religions preach against killing other human beings. In fact, many religions preach morals that are socially acceptable. In fact, myself as an athiest holds many morals of the bible. As many of these religions are already of Satan, this point holds no weight in this round. 3. "The bible gives us faith" Not true, as long as Satan misleads people away from what it truly means to be close to god he can allow for faith all he wants. In all reality, because we do not know gods true will, giving us faith, having us seeking, may be the farthest possible step from god that there is. Side note, other religions also have faith and you have already conceded that they are of Satan. 4. "Satan can do no good" This would once again be true except for the fact that many other religions have moral codes that are similar and have many societally "good" parts in them. The fact of the matter is, as long as people is leading people away from god in the long run (a BAD act) he can do minor acts of GOOD. In other words, the ends justify the means. His ultimate bad goal will make up for a few good acts, or perceivably good acts. ========== Premise Five ========== My opponent offers 2 points. (I am paraphrasing my opponents arguments by the way.) 1. "If Satan came to earth as Jesus why would he need to temp himself?" The premise is simple really. If Satan were trying to get people to follow his religion the best way to do this would be to show the people a divine idol which they could follow. This divine idol was Jesus, the most important aspect of Jesus is the fact that he is of god, or all that is good. Thus it is necessary to show that he is good. The best way to show that he is a good being would be to show him rejecting all that is evil, Satan. Therefor, Satan, who presumably wrote the bible, added a few verses about how Jesus was tempted by himself and rejected himself. This of course is impossible to prove by anyone as no one actually saw it happen and it adds to the idea that Jesus must be good, even though he is actually Satan. 2. "The bible says all other religions must be false, why would Satan do this?" Once again this is true of many other religions and is true for a rather obvious reason. If you include the idea that all other religions are false, people who are in a conflict will have to choose 1 religion or another. So imagine this, Satan, through the bible, gets perhaps 2% of the population of every other religion to follow christianity. This means that perhaps a combined 30% of already unintentional Satan worshipers stop worshiping there old religions and begin to worship the bible. Since the bible is of Satan, Satan doesn't actually lose any worshipers. However, the real god, and his religion will also lose the 2%, thus Satan overall benefits. ========== Premise 6 ========== Two arguments once again. 1. "The Sanheidran decide to kill the Christians but cannot do so, the bible says this is because of god." Once again this would obviously be Satan showing that his religion is true by adding this to the bible. And by the off chance this event actually happened all Satan had to do was intervene and stop them from killing the Christians. He then writes in his book of lies that this was because of god, which only helps to further his case and lead more people away. 2. "The Bible says that every word proceeds from the mouth of God, and that the Bible is the infallible word of God." Keep in mind Satan is trying to lead people away from the true god. The best way to do this, as shown through every other religion he has ever made is present a false god. Thus Satan lies, something he is capable of, and says in his book that every word is of god. This once again furthers him getting people away from the true god. SECOND LOGICAL PROGRESSION My opponent once again agrees with Premise one and two thereby conceding that the anti-creator under the framework of christianity holds many more religions than the creator. ========= PREMISE 3 ========= My opponent presents two arguments, neither of which hurt my case. 1. "The fact that the anti-creator sends himself to earth more than the creator doesn't disprove the bible." This is true, all I am stating is this: Because Satan has influenced far more religions than this one, and has appeared as Messiahs in a great deal, it is of a higher probability that Satan would appear on earth in any given scenario than god. Clarification: Appear on earth in a significant roll, such as Jesus, or other divine figures. 2. "The anti-creator is always on earth" Okay.... This only furthers my point, he is here more often and influences more often than God. He has made many more false idols than god. ========= Premise 4 ========= My opponent once again presents two arguments, this is where I will make my point. 1. "Your points don't disprove Christianity they just show that we shouldn't follow any religion." Yes, exactly, under my points, if we accept a creator and an anti-creator as the bible says then we should not accept any religion. If an anti-creator actually exists then probability has it, that the religion you choose is the wrong religion. And as we have no definite way to actually know if we are speaking to god or communicate with him/her period we have no way to verify. 2. "Since we are accepting one part of the bible to be true then we should accept all of the bible to be true." No, this is my point exactly. If we are to follow christianity as a religion the number one premise of this religion is that an anti-creator exists and leads people away from god. Thus, under Christianities own framework it is actually more likely that Christianity itself is not from god, but rather from its own anti-creator. Therefor we should reject this religion on its own framework that effectively preaches against itself and locate a religion that does not preach of an anti-creator, as this religion would not statistically deny itself. Hope you enjoy this.