Abortion

Whenever I debate someone and they say "thanks, Mister!" or "on to you, Mister!" I always picture a little kid in a lemonade stand asking a middle-aged guy in a suit if he wants to buy a glass. "Hey Mister, you want some lemonade?!" Anyway, thanks Dan. I'm not disappointed at all, don't you worry one bit, sir. So I hear this argument all the time, and I call it the Hypocrite argument, because your main point is "you're a hypocrite if you don't allow born humans to be killed but you allow unborn ones to be killed." Now there are many differences between an unborn human and a born human, which is why currently abortion is legal in about half of the world. And speaking of the world, I must remind everybody that it is something which is definitely not black and white. Many, many other factors are involved when making decisions, when determining whether or not something is good or bad, etc. The main thing that determines whether something is human is the DNA is has. So you're basing whether or not something is good or bad on something invisible to the human eye. So technically a two-celled fertilized egg is a human being, simply because it has human DNA. However, like I said before, the world isn't black and white. There are exceptions to the rule. There are such a large amount of differences between an embryo and a born human that I wouldn't be able to list all of them here if that was my entire argument. To determine whether or not something is bad based on what kind of DNA it has instead of it's physical and mental qualities and state, just doesn't really make sense. Sure, it's what we call a human. But it makes logical sense to at least consider the pros and cons to keeping an unwanted embryo than to just flat out assert that it's bad to terminate it "because it has human DNA." The article you linked actually doesn't prove that embryos feel pain; it shows reflexive withdraws to stimulants, much like a plant or tree if you light a fire near it. I also have scientists to back me up when I say embryos cannot feel pain (the same way a tree cannot feel pain) [1], so I would say it's safe to conclude that embryos "feel pain" in the sense that a tree or plant "feels pain" - by reflexively pulling away from a stimulant. Having a nervous system not connected to the part of the brain that registers pain means you cannot feel pain. It means when the embryo's body reacts to something, it's reflexive, not experiential, and therefore, not actually "feeling pain" [2]. I also want to quickly point out that you obviously wanted your daughter. Not every single woman that is pregnant got pregnant on purpose, or wants to give birth. Saying "abortion is a bad thing because our specific situation worked out the way we wanted" doesn't really apply. I'd also like to point out that it's not that "I don't like the term 'babies'," it's that scientifically speaking, they are not babies. Obviously women who are carrying a fetus and want it are going to refer to it as their babies. My point is that saying "killing babies" is purely for shock factor and sounds a lot worse than what it technically is. Rebuttals to your rebuttals Planned Parenthood - Unfortunately for most of your argument, it's filled with your bias against abortion, which leads to you asserting that "she meant this" or "this must be happening," with nothing more than a completely legal matter being discussed. The fact of the matter is she is discussing a completely legal operation, which I've shown in my previous round, and if you chose to interpret that as they're illegally aborting fetuses, my point from earlier still stands - "To say abortion as a whole is a bad thing because very few people perform illegal activities just doesn't quite work." People breaking the law shouldn't have any effect on whether or not something is generally good or bad. People drowning doesn't mean swimming is a bad thing. If you have proof that "something fishy is going on," which isn't an edited video of the few "questionable parts" of a lengthy interview, I'm sure that would help. Over-population - Ignoring the "slaughtering children" nonsense... You presented no sources to back your assertions up with. So here's something [3], and keep in mind the areas of the Earth that are "over-populated" are the areas with the most famine, disease, crime, and poor mental state [4]. So that's sure saying something. I also see you STILL haven't given a reason as to why abortion is actually BAD, other than "terminating something with human DNA is wrong." And I've already explained how other factors nullify the fact that the unborn have the same DNA. Sources [1] https://www.newscientist.com... [2] http://www.salon.com... [3] http://www.nationalgeographic.com... [4] http://www.newgeography.com...