God has always been Eternal

OK Alright here is my proof God has always been Eternal, the answer is the Holy Bible,' well I would like to ask Aceviper2011 has he ever felt the bible, has he ever seen the Bible before, has he ever read the bible before?RE: Yes I have, I was actually a christian once, went to a christian church, also read the bible. Yes I have, even though that does not go with the topic of this debate, I will ask the voter's not to deducted any points from this question he has asked me. OK The Bible is my proof that God has always been Eternal, the bible says in Deuteronomy 33:27King James Version (KJV).RE: Once again if my opponent wishes to prove how the christian god is eternal, he first has to break his rule, going off topic to even prove a god exist. Just because I had let it slide once, this time the topic rule does apply. 27 The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.RE: My opponent still has failed to even proven the existance of a christian god, for the book is truely written by men, so any regard of the bible saying so is a hear say, making the accusation of eternal god false, since no proof of a god going away from the bible is true. For my opponent to prove such thing, he will have to break his rule to doing so, thats go off topic and creating a new issue. My opponent states: God Jehovah is has always will be Eternal God has always Existed OK MOST UNBELIEVERS SAY WHO MADE GODthis is what I have to sayok to one who examines the Evidence, there can be no doubt that God exist Every building has a builder. Everything made has a maker the fact of the existence of the creator is axiomat-ic ( self-Evident).RE: My opponent has shown some suprising text here in his arguement, as we all can see clearly, my opponent stated: "there can be no doubt that God exist; every builder has a builder, everything made has a maker, so we ask ourselves since my opponent stated everything made has a maker, every building has a builder. Taking from that, he is saying that everything cannot be made without a maker, so all do with respect, who made god?P1) Staying on topic: If my opponent agreed by his own words viewers then this so god which can not be proven to exist due to stay on topic rule: There is no way this so call god he speaks of can be Eternal. "he dwells in eternity and is not subject to time, God spoke history before it came into being. he can move though time as man flips though History because we live in the dimension of time logic and reason demand that everything must have a beginning and an end we can understand the concepts of God's Eternal nature the same way we understand the concepts of space having no beginning and no end - by faith we simple have to believe they are so even though such thoughts put a strain on our distinctly insufficient cerebrum"RE: My opponent clearly states in the beginning of the paragraph, "he can move though time as man flips through history; because we live in the dimension of time; logic, and reason demand that everything must have a beginning, and a end, we can understand the concepts of God's Eternal nature the same way we understand the concepts of space; having no beginning and no end- by FAITH, we simply have to believe they are so EVEN though such thoughts put a strain on our distinctly insufficient cerebrum. S1) When you have faith, you baisically are saying I am hoping this is true, for example: I have faith the answer to this math problem is right. In other words, I am crossing my fingers, or else I am screwed. When my opponent said faith, he is hoping, that he is right on saying there is a eternal god. S2) Re-reading that little paragraph, it came to mind when my opponent stated: we live in the dimension of time, logic, and reason. Since we live in that time, sufficiently when trying to say a god is eternal, my opponent has to so logic, time, and reason, on how is this god eternal, without logic, reasoning, time of proving the existance of a god, you can not prove of anything eternal. Like i said before, Without my opponent breaking his rule, he can not start a new topic to prove of a gods existance. / Me Quote God who is the Lord Jesus Christ can create things, why because God who is the Lord Jesus Christ has always been Eternal.RE: Big contradiction Alert: Opponent "God who is the Lord Jesus Christ can create things, why because God who is the Lord Jesus Christ has always been Eternal" did my opponent, just admit that God was Lord Jesus Christ, is it not taught from the christian bible not to make false gods, so now my opponent said this so called god in the OT whom created everything, is now in the NT Jesus Christ, saying Jesus Christ is eternal, and he create things. So there was no true god, and Jesus Christ could not be eternal since he died. Since eternity is immortality, that makes like you said god who is jesus christ non eternal. My source on this Would be the bible KJV. Also my source would be my opponents argument. Breaking news: my opponent has proven there is no god, or said there is no god. I still stayed on topic. / Me Quote I would like to ask this question to Aceviper2011, What brought the universe into existence? It would have to be greater than the universe and be a sufficient cause to it. The Bible promotes this sufficient cause as God. What does atheism offer instead of God? If nothing, then atheism is not able to account for our own existence.RE: my opponent is starting to go off topic. So I will not break no rule I will be in topic so i shall exclude a comment to this topic that is not of the topic. Starting in 1929, Dr. John Garstang, excavated the ruins of ancient Jericho. His discoveries corresponded remarkably with the Biblical account. Jericho, he found, had a double wall, with houses built across the two walls. This explains how Rahab's house could have been built upon a wall. He learned that the wall was destroyed by some kind of violent convulsion such as that described in the Bible, and that when the wall feel that it fell outward, down the hillside, or as the Bible says, it fell down flat. Had the wall been destroyed by the battering rams of an enemy army, the walls would have fallen inward instead of outward. Furthermore, the city had been burned. Once again, the spade of archaeology has established the accuracy of the Bible./ Me Quote thus I have just proven the God who is the Lord Jesus Christ is Eternal,RE: Looking at that paragraph I had found that, my opponent had acknowledged the walls falling down outward, down the hillside. then he said the bible said it fell down flat. When a wall of stone has fell outward that could mean two scenerios 1. The army Pulled the walls down, or 2. since you did state the walls were not taken down after seven days. with no true evidence of a huge hand coming from the sky to knock it down your claims of a god destroying is not valid. earthquack created by natural causes, or rain made the stones weak enough to just crumble, since water is our strongest element could made the stones weak to crumble and fall flat that sounds more reasonable. Then my opponent said I have just proven the god who is again Jesus Christ, is eternal, my opponent has not proven anything logical, only source is a bible, with no scientific facts only words from a man. Why in a dream, why not in front of everyone, awake. My opponent went off topic breaking his own rules, points deduction is called on Pro. Eternal have to have a cause, you cannot be eternal without first a cause, the christian Jesus Christ spoke of the cause to have an eternal life, and thats to believe, so the cause is believe, the reward for believing is eternal life, having eternal is just not a snap of a finger, with out no one to pass down from it. no eternal has to be passed down, even stated by how to gain eternal is by believing, so working for eternal, So if god was there he had to earn it.