Illegal Immigration

I FULLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS. I JUST DISAGREE WITH THEM. WELCOME TO DEBATE. - Illegals do not and should not have the same rights that we do. They have come over here illegally. We, as a nation, require certain standards to be met before you can become a U.S. citizen. + If they do not have the same rights we do then: THEY WOULD NEVER GET AN EDUCATION AND END UP IN VIOLENT CRIMES OR LIKE THE MAJORITY IN HOUSE CLEANING, ETC. OR THEY WOULD USE AMERICANS' SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS TO BUY HOUSES both of those take place now. - know that they have it rough in Mexico but they should not come in the United States illegally and reap the benefits of a law-abiding country. + why not? we are not even a law abiding country. this point is ridiculous and illogical. - What kind of signal are we sending to the world, or to our citizens, when we legalize millions of illegal immigrants? We say, "Go ahead and break our laws because there are no consequences if you do." Let's just tell everyone to do what they want, legal or illegal, because in the end we all need to "modernize" and times will change to allow this type of behavior. That's not very logical to me. + If these people are not legal they WILL NOT PAT TAXES, COMMIT SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD, AND NOT GET AN EDUCATION IN SOME STATES OR ANY COLLEGES. I have made this point in every round and you have not refuted it. Please respomd to all three or you have agreed to them and will lose the debate. - I say that we begin to deport all of those that have entered into the U.S. illegally. I don't think that we will be able to get rid of them all but we can try. This will send a signal to everyone that wants to become a U.S. citizen that they must follow our laws and must submit to the process that we have in place. + SARCASM: Youre right. If we TRY to deport every illegal we can send a message. Logically, the message will be that, if you come to our country, we will send you back to your country so that you can...come back the next day and try again. TRYING to send all illegals back is illogical and no message will be sent. WE ARE ALREADY TRYING TO DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS!!! THAT IS AMERICAN LAW!!! HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE US IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT AGENCY!!! - I also believe that we need a fence. I don't know any of the logistics, but I would say that it needs to go from the southern tip of Texas all the way to west coast of California. + this is so ridiculous!!! this fence would not support anything!!! theyve already tried to build a border fence!!! this fence would have to be very long and impossible to guard, therefore cracks would be made!!! walls never work(ed). the great wall of china didnot even work!!! theyll find a way in!!! boats, highways, planes exist!!! this would be tons of money pumped into something that would not work!!! THE NEW BORDER FENCE IS 700 MILES LONG. 1 PERSON A MILE IS NOT ENOUGH. 10 PEOPLE A MILE IS NOT ENOUGH. 100 A MILE IS A STRETCH. BUT JUST TO PLEASE YOU. THAT WOULD BE 700,000 BORDER PATROLS AND THAT WOULD STILL BE INEFFECTIVE. - Hiring more Border Patrol agents is also a necessity. I ask you this question, why should we have a Border Patrol if all we are going to do is allow anyone that wants into the U.S. to go ahead and come? + We dont allow anyone iunto the US. The debate is pro illagal immigration. - Why do we have laws against illegal immigration? + To stop illegal immigration... - Should we allow anyone that wants in to the U.S. to freely enter? + Yes. - I'm not insulting you, I just believe that you do not understand the magnitude of the entire illegal immigration situation. + Well. - You're solution is to legalize illegal immigrants. That completely goes against what our justice system is all about. + Well, imagine that. - Let's just legalize crystal meth because their are people that "need" to sell it to provide for their family. + What repeal laws? Thats ridiculous!!! Slavery is stil legal, you cant buy beer, wine or spirits, and women cant vote. Imagine this: marijuana is legal in some states and some people are for meth legalising. i.e. me!!! Get out of your conservative, protestant, texas bubble. - Let's legalize murder because some people can't control their actions and we shouldn't punish them because of their lack of self-control. + Nobody said that illegals cant control their actions. How is this even relevant? This does not make sense AT ALL. - This is a policy of appeasement. It never works. + ...wtf... ILLEGALS WILL POST LEGALISATION: PAY TAXES GO TO SCHOOL GO TO COLLEGE GET BETTER JOBS IMPROVE OUR ECONOMY BE FORCED OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD TO BUY HOUSES BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES STOP USING UP OUR MONEY TO BUILD 700 MILE FENCES THAT ARE COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE AND REQUIRE INNEFECTIVE BORDER PATROL p.s. your whole thing was about messages we would send to other controls by legalising illegals but what message would be sent to countries if we built a border fence? america is an isolationist nation that has not evolved from the cold war.