The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare)

I will begin by addressing your refutations on my statements. "*Reply: As I listed on #4 above, even if lower insurance premiums was the "entire objective" (I have completely destroyed that claim) That goal was also a huge failure because costs are going way up after Obamacare so even based on your wrong claim of objective the ACA is a big failure. " I provided links showing in Black and White ObamaCare has, in fact Lowered Insurance Costs for Families and individuals alike! Did you bother to read it even? I would like to point out Cons ignorance over my statements. "costs are going way up after Obamacare " Complete and utter Hyperbole. Please read my Links and sources next time. (1) ObamaCare has Trimmed HealthCare costs, while Increasing Receipients! That, my friend, is and undisputable accomplishment in American HealthCare reform. (2) "Also, it is you not providing any support for your incorrecxt and untrue statements, only I have been providing links supporting my assertions that are credible. " First off, Typo on Cons part. You accuse me of not providing links. I"m sorry, are you Blind? I"ve provided Links to almost every statement and argument I"ve made. Con makes a Ridiculous statement, which almost insults me. "*Reply: Again, insurance is not cheaper as already proven and as I point out on numbers 2, 4 and 5. lower Emergency room costs to the Government, lower premiums, lower costs in general were promises (read objectives) made all along and I have given several links to prove this. If you have a link proving there was never supposed to be any savings of any kind then please provide that link, no radical sites please. " You live in Blindness. I provide multiple links in each round. (1)(2)(3)(4)(5) I"ve provide more then Enough evidence, from Multiple sources, to prove my point. ObamaCare has Lowered National HealthCare costs, Provided Insurance to over 11 million Previously uninsured Americans, and has Providied Subsidies to Families and individuals alike(2)(3). Con, please read my links and enough with the Blind ignorance and Arrogant Statements. "*Reply: It is a failure because that number is mostly existing insured Americans shifting to new policies, it does not reflect the complete failure to insure the uninsured, lower premiums and costs. " C"mon man. You read the link I provided you, correct? It clearly Stated, All 11 Million were previously UNINSURED. Not whatever you think, or what you think is correct. I"ve done so much just to prevent Con from Making stupid statements like that. You want Reference? I suggest you provide you"re own. Won"t listen to my Words? Listen to the Words of people who do this or a Living. (1)(2)(3) I would ask Viewers to Take into Account Cons Laziness in Reading my Links, and Repeating the same things from Round 1. He has made completely ignorant statements, which I"ve refuted with MULTIPLE sources for each. It"s individuals like this who make Debate a Plethora of Arrogance, not an intellectual and enjoyable conversation of information. I will address his Points he wishes to add. "You keep calling the expectation of fulfilled promises by Obama "naive" when it applies to the ACA, why? The American people heard those constantly repeated promises and believed Obama was trustworthy and let him pass it, even stayed silent when Obama had to use sketchy tactics after he lost his super majority because they trusted him to keep his promises. " Obama Has fulfilled so much, and kept many of his Electoral Promises. Con, you"re making ignorant Statements again, without Reference. Here, Food for Thought. (4) Cons First Point is one he has repeated from Round 1. I"ve addressed this multiple times. " 2. One of the key selling points of the ACA was how we had to get everyone into the game and not letting people to go without health insurance and to just go to the emergency room when they were sick because those emergency rooms were mandated to help people even without health insurance. Those emergency room visits cost many times more than standard medical care and it was a key point in selling Obamacare as a cost savings measure shifting Americans into regular doctor office visits instead of using the much higher cost emergency room visits:" Emergency room costs and Waiting periods have increased. I will concede. I would trade that for over 11 Million Americans and there families being insured. Cons Third Point is Almost identical to his second. Cons Fourth Point is Refuted by these Statistics. (4)(5) "5. The stated goal of the ACA was to get everyone insured and paying into pools to help lower premiums. This was the reason Obama was given the rating of "full flop" by politifact after parts of the ACA came out with an individual mandate when Obama had slammed Hillary on the campaign trail because her plan had an individual mandate and Obama;s plan did not have an individual mandate. " What point are you trying to make here? You don"t specify anything. "6. Subsidy confusion is a big part of the ACA, buried deep in the bill where almost all Americans have no clue about is a bad side of the Government subsidies, if any of your situation changes during the year, pay increases, divorce, job changes or even moving to a new area could drastically change your eligibility and the IRS will hit you with a penalty at the end of the year. " Con, that Link you provide Says nothing abour IRS Tax hits. Either you we"re to lazy to confirm if the Link was correct, or you"re trying to make information up. "7. The ACA created a lot of new taxes and while some seem reasonable to most Americans such as higher taxes on people making over $200,000 a year (known as the middle class) some of them just seem strange as in the new 10% tax on tanning services, where did they come up with that? " In the US,and in most First world countries, 200,000$ Dollars a Year is Considered an Extremely Wealthy Bracket of income. (1)(. http://www.google.com...) (2)(. https://www.google.com.mx...) (3)(. https://www.google.com.mx...) (4)(. https://www.google.com.mx...) (5)(. https://www.google.com.mx...) Conclusion: Con has Made Multiple Statements, Implying Complete ignorance and Laziness, I quote " Also, it is you not providing any support for your incorrecxt and untrue statements, only I have been providing links supporting my assertions that are credible. " Con Makes Hardly any Effort to address the Links provided, along with the New points I established. ObamaCare Has Insured over 11 Million Previously uninsured American Citizens, that is, a Great achievment in American HealthCare reform. (2) ObamaCare has Provided large Subsidies to Families and struggling individuals Alike. (2)(4) Cons Main Point of Negativity Towards ObamaCare are Quite few, he states Waiting Rooms times have increased, but I respond by telling him the Amount of New patients. I found this debate a Fun challenge. ObamaCare is a Milestone in HealthCare reform, and has Influenced so many for the better.