The Church uses fear to gain believers and has no evidence of it's doctrines

i am very sorry if it seemed like i was attacking you. i get angry debating some topics because im shocked and appalled at what they believe and why they believe it. you say artifacts prove there was a jesus. you dont explain how or havent provided proof or any evidence that he is the son of god and you also cant prove or show any evidence that there is a god. but i did get angry after reading your first post. i get angry that a person who thinks evidence means proof and church means catholic church thinks he has the smarts to debate me. you should no your irrational. and because you dont everyone around you (including animals) suffer greatly. its getting better with time but no thanks to religion and hasnt improved at all for animals. do you think any of our ancestors knew right from wrong? they all think they did. so how do you know your right? we cant all be right because we contradict each other on every precept. in what universe is that knowing right from wrong? but im supposed to believe that a perfect god is going to judge us for our wrong doings when he didnt first teach us right from wrong making him more deserving of punishment than anybody by far because he caused the evil by giving you the ability of it while not teaching you right from wrong making it inevitable. and then hes going to punish you for the evil he caused? you cant be good if you dont know what good is and religion teaches bad and a little bit of common sense so that people will see the common sense stuff and think wow this is profound (because they are lazy thinkers not knowing they could have figured it out on their own) the rest that i dont understand must be right too. lol and all our ancestors have done it giving our leaders everything they couuld ever want. the perfect society for their every desire. its hard not to get angry because i hate you. i dont think its your fault so i dont hate you in the same sense as you would hate me though. im not angry with you. im angry that i have to be a part of the universe and that i have to deal with people like you who submit to the will of god (our leaders) and screw life up for everyone around them. its not god and you have no proof or evidence. i know that. not know like you know your beliefs are right. i mean i literally know it aint god. god wouldnt make thousands of religions and billions of denominations and make you pick for salvation throwing all the losers in hell and that is what almost every religion implies. use your freaking noggin. as for your question is that not enough evidence no that is not enough evicence to believe that there is a god and a son of god and i already know about it and it doesnt support the claim that he is "jesus" (the son of god). actually i think i can insult whoever i want as your people (christians) used to own people. now today your saying i cant even insult you for doing the same exact thing your slave owning ancestors did? f you i was going to start being nice. i said we should some christians values not all of them. sorry for the confusion. and according to which church do you not have to be a christian in order to go to hell while the bible its founded on teaches that you must believe that jesus is the son of god admit you are a sinner and ask him for forgiveness for your sins. its that easy. murderers and rapists go free and good people go to hell because of a flawed yet "perfect" system? lol clearly underthought to say the least. you say how do i know you dont know right from wrong? your a christian with values consistent with the majority which is one of millions of majorities that all contradict all other majorities. thats how i know and i can say quite literally that being that case that im far over 99.99999 percent sure you dont know right from wrong. lol yes the church has changed. that means it was wrong before but still is believed to be right when its coming from the same book that gave them their last wrong views. if it is wrong now to own a slave or rape a woman it was wrong at any time in history. nothing has changed that would make this objective truth if it is such change. only lazy thinkers think objective morality changes with time. thats just something they need to believe to keep them from seeing the truth that we dont know right from wrong. when you punish a nazi for war crimes they dont know theyve done anything wrong. when you punish a christians for owning and raping slaves they think they have the right. come on. we are talking about views like every person of one race can rape anyone of another race or kill them or do anything to them. that was objective morality? i highly doubt it. our ancestors didnt know right from wrong clearly and thought they did so i dont expect to convince you that you dont know right from wrong but ill keep trying. you say you donate to charity and one other thing and used that as evidence that you know right from wrong? not hard to see why you think the little to no evidence supporting the desperate for evidence christian view point is conclusive. you know two precepts and you think thats enough to say you know right from wrong. funny. thanks for the laugh. lol hold on im still laughing at the fact that people like you think they are smart enough to know the nature morality and everything about god and judge him accurately. being that you have yet to make a single point im going to not read the rest of your pointless jibber jabber or drivel. because ive already won before i said anything because you prove one of my points and none of yours. lol this is pathetic. know your place. your stupid. learn that and life will be so much easier for everyone around you. why do we fight? because we always think we know right from wrong and are much smarter than we are while we dont and we arent and because of that we fight for wrong reasons. grow up. look around. and analyse.