Pokemon: Gen 1 Starters

The earliest you can find a Growlithe is in Route 7 and 8.My point exactly. What I originally meant was that for my Charmander to be useless, I would have to replace him right at the start, as he is a starter. But I can't.As goes for later stages of the game, while it is true that Arcanine has better stats than Charizard, it is also a complete sucker to easy Ground moves, to which Charizard is immune. Charizard grows extra weak to rock, plus has an added weakness to electric, but both of them can be easily countered by Earthquake, which is an excellent move and one which Arcanine can't learn. Actually, the only ground move Arcanine can learn is Dig.The pro is saying that Slowbro, Starmie, and Gyrados are not as good because they are late in game.I never said that they're not good. I only meant that they cannot replace my squirtle since they come in late. Squirtle is someone whom I can use for the entire game, whereas the rest come in only after a while.Once again, as goes for later stages, a Blastoise with Ice Beam and Earthquake is very difficult to beat. Gyarados is a double sucker to electric and can't even learn any ground moves to counter them. Slowbro can, but it is WAY too slow to get a good chance at attack. Starmie's good and fast, but it still has a gaping hole in electric defense, plus it is hopeless against ghost and dark types. Blastoise definitely comes out on top of Gen 1 water types, this isn't even worth arguing.So even though Squirtle(or evolutions) are weak to easily obtainable moves, with a little consideration andthe easily obtainable Earthquake, half of its defensive holes are plugged right away. If you give it an Ice beam, it can kill a dragon.Venusaur can also learn ground, rock, normal, and fighting type moves.IT CANNOT! Not in generation 1!http://pokemondb.net...This is bad conduct. You specifically said Gen 1 starters. So you cannot include Gen 3-6 moves. Totally unfair. All the movesets I've taken into account, I've only referred to generation 1. It's only fair that you do the same.IN GENERATION 3 AND ABOVE, BULBASAUR IS NOT A STARTER. The charts are NOT off.So, what can Bulbasaur do against those it has a disadvantage to?NOTHING. It cannot learn a single move that would work well against fire, flying, psychic, or ice. In short, when faced with such pokemon, you have no choice but to withdraw your Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur.Charizard at least stands a chance against rock, and a good chance against electric if it has earthquake (come on, every Charizard has earthquake).Blastoise stands a great chance against both grass as well as electric types, the only worry being its below-average speed....but Venusaur has high Special defense stats.For the record, Blastoise's sp. def. is even higher. Venusaur may survive Dragonite or Aerodactyl's first attack, but then what? Is it gonna use solarbeam on Dragonite? Contrary to what my opponent says, Pokemon battles are not about OHKO moves.Even if Venusaur survives the first attack, it cannot do anything against pokemon that have a type advantage, as stated by me earlier. At least not in Generation 1, where it is a starter. Charizard can do something, and Blastoise can do much more than something.So those are my points. Blastoise is definitely a keeper, and in my opinion it is second only to Swampert. But since we're in gen 1, Blastoise is undoubtedly the best.Sources:http://pokemondb.net...http://pokemondb.net...http://pokemondb.net...Always a pleasure, Pro. I eagerly await your next set of arguments.P.S. Please refrain from referring to other generations. In other generations, these 3 are not STARTERS, and hence it is unfair to refer to those.