The C.I.S are the good guys during the events of the Clone Wars. [Star Wars]

My opponent says it was wrong for the Republic to use clones because they were forced to fight in a war in which they watched their brothers die. But let me ask this: If the clones were made to feel no emotions at all, particularly grief, love, compassion, and loss, then would Pro not point to that as evidence that the clones are slaves created by the Republic? I would like to ask you, the audience, the question I posed earlier: Would you rather have your planet invaded by the compassionate, empathetic clone troopers, or the emotionless droids of the Separatists? I will have to retroactively amend my previous statement that the inhibitor chip was placed by Jedi Master Sifo Dyas. The inhibitor chips were a standard procedure, Master Dyas had had the chips put into the clones he ordered programmed with extra safeguards. So the Republic did know the inhibitor chips were inside the clones, but because the few Kaminoians who knew about the extra features of the clone army chips kept them a secret, the Republic understandably was unaware of such orders as Order 37, thus the existance of Order 37 has no bearing on the moral status of the Republic.* Obi-wan Kenobi did not "put his apprentice and a senator in danger". After he reported his findings on Geonosis to the Jedi Council and was seen getting captured, his apprentice, Anakin Skywalker was ordered to not go to Geonosis to attempt to rescue Kenobi. Padme Amidala, the senator Skywalker was charged with protecting, was the one who put herself and Skywalker in danger by going to Geonosis. Kenobi cannot be blamed for endangering Senator Amidala when she was the one who chose to go into danger. (And just to cover basis: The Jedi Council's specific order was for Skywalker to "stay with the senator". But the obvious implication was, "stay with the senator on Naboo.") Once again, my opponent is attempting a major deception. In no way did Jedi Master Kenobi's actions on Geonosis cause the Clone Wars. Yes, it triggered it, but the Clone Wars was inevitable. Wat Tambor was mass producing military droids on Geonosis for the Trade Federation. Why do you think the Trade Federation needed millions of military droids? For war. The Confederacy of Independent Systems was gearing up for war. Whether or not Kenobi had been caught on Geonosis, the war would have started. The entire Clone War was part of Sith Lord Palpatine's plot to take total control of the galaxy. The war was inevitable. And there is another major deception my opponent is attempting. He claims that, "all the C.I.S were trying to do was leave Republic Control and go under another form of Government." The factories on Geonosis were built by Wat Tambor, one of the founders and leaders of the C.I.S., to produce millions of military droids. And, at this time, the leaders of the C.I.S. did not know the clone army existed, thus they believed the Republic had no military which could fight their droid army. If all the C.I.S. wanted was to leave the Republic, they certainly wouldn't need a droid army numbering over 4 million** to do so. I would like to know what "harsh laws, taxes and policies that often favored humans over the 'aliens'" my opponent claims existed and were the reasons for Geonosis joining the C.I.S. On the contrary, the Archduke of Geonosis, Poggle the Lesser, had a much more obvious and reasonable motivation. Poggle was born into the lower caste of Geonosian society, and rose to power through a rebellion, which was successful because Sith Lord Palpatine aided him.*** Therefore it would seem that Geonosis joined the C.I.S. as part of a bargin Poggle the Lesser had with the Sith. In regard to Pro's section on General Kalani's test and calculations regarding the outcome of the Clone Wars: it's irrelevant to the discussion. My original claim that Pro set out to disprove is that the clones were superior to the C.I.S. droids because they weren't droids. But Pro's assertion that the droids would have defeated the clones is completely irrelevant to whether or not the C.I.S. was the good side of the Clone Wars. But, just to cover base: Kalani's test to prove that the droid army was superior to the Republic army is inadmisible because the test is hardly relevent. Both sides of the test battle were so far out of their prime that they did not reflect either side of the Clone Wars. The Republic side also lacked real Jedi masters. Also, Pro said, "As for the B1s and Super Battle Droids I don't see what their intelligence has to do with General Kalani." To answer this question: I clearly stated that General Kalani's calculation was stated as, "The droid army vastly outnumbered the clone army, thus they it should have won." But if the only factor in the calculation was numbers, then the calculation would be faulty because even the most basic clone trooper was immensly superior to the most basic droid, the B1 Battle Droid. However, we can't ask General Kalani about the specifics of the calculation because this "evidence" is hearsay, which is why I originally said it is not admisible in this debate. Pro said, "I had never stated the Republic would lose." But he clearly did say so when he said, "Droids simply would have won the war." Is saying the droids would win the war not the same as saying the Republic would lose the same war? I have no idea where my opponent got the notion that "the C.I.S was willing to make peace with the Republic first." In Clone Wars 3:10, Chancellor Palpatine reminds Senator Amidala that, "In the past, whenever we've reached out our hands in peace, they've been slapped away." So it is clear that the potential request for peace by the C.I.S. in that episode was not the C.I.S. being the first side to be willing to make peace. Now we come upon another massive deception my opponent is attempting. He makes several claims in a single paragraph that are completely false. First, that Jedi Obi Wan Kenobi had no jurisdiction on Geonosis. Kenobi was a Jedi, his jurisdiction had nothing to do with the Republic. The Jedi Order was NOT part of the Republic, they simply served it voluntarily.**** Second, my opponent says the flat out lie that, "Geonosis was not a Republic System but a System in the Outer-Rim." This line is very amusing because the second part completely contradicts and disproves the first. The Outer-Rim was part of the Galactic Republic*****, therefore Geonosis was too. And Geonosis being "less than a parsec away from Tatooine" has absolutely no relevance to political status of it. Just look at a world map to see how political borders work. Geonosis was violating Republic law by knowingly aiding the Trade Federation in violating their military restrictions. So my opponents claims that "Geonosis was doing nothing wrong and was simply just acting outside of the Republic" is 100% false and contradicts itself. Geonosis WAS doing something wrong, they were acting outside of Republic law. In round 3 of this debate, I asked my opponent for proof that, "any system legitimately had to turn to slavery to survive economically." He completely failed to do so, instead just repeating the same unsubstantiated "facts" to support his claims. The final set of claims my opponent made is that the "Republic exploits outer-core systems and oppresses them based on Species and Race." First off, the outer-core includes the planet Alderaan, which is primarily human, and certainly not oppressed. I assume my opponent meant "outer-rim systems". Anyway, where is the proof of this? The wiki page on humanocentrism makes no mention of the Republic "exploiting outer-rim systems based on species and race" (http://starwars.wikia.com...). I would like to know where my opponent got the information that the Republic did so. Or is this another completely unsubstantiated fake-fact being used to falsly support a claim? In this round, we have seen that my opponent lacks any real basis for his assertion that the C.I.S. was the good guys in the Clone Wars. Every one of his paragraphs had false "facts" that he clearly did not fact-check, outright lies, bent truths, self-contradictions, and completely made up "facts" which he used to support his claim. My opponent also spent time arguing points which have no relevance to the actual debate of whether or not the C.I.S. was the good side of the Clone Wars, such as if the droid army would have defeated the clone army, in an attempt to create a false impression that he was proving valid points. *http://starwars.wikia.com... **http://starwars.wikia.com... ***http://starwars.wikia.com... ****http://starwars.wikia.com... *****http://starwars.wikia.com... Note to Pro: For round 5 you can do counter arguments for this post, which will even out the number of times each of us has done counter-arguments at three. My round 5 post will be only a closing statement, but yours can be counter-arguments for round 4 plus your closing.