Google needs to get off Youtube

Final round! Let us begin! Remember, at round five, if you choose not to continue, just say "Conclusion" in the debate thing that comes up. And make your response to this your final one. Same format as always. 1.) Yes, that is correct. But bear in mind, I believe that keeping them here will cause more problems and sending them away will prevent them. You are correct, however. And if they did rake in money as such to pay them, then why are they allowing businesses to flag any videos they please? Businesses flagging videos doesn't even grant youtube money, it grants the business who flagged the video money. And it wouldn't really cause a firing of anyone really. I doubt Google would fire a bunch of people just because they don't own Youtube anymore. Drop in money? Sure, that'll happen. But hey, so what if they're overflowing pockets aren't that stuffed anymore? They're still going to be rich fat cats. And much smaller versions? Eh, just because those are gone doesn't ruin Youtube in the slightest. And Youtube themselves could make their own version of it later on once they take back ownership. 2.) Google's usefulness is debatable.. Just because they added stuff doesn't mean that people didn't like what they added, which a lot of people like myself didn't. It is debatable to person to person because surprise, humans aren't all the same. Infact, it shows right here that that very statement isn't true. Debating over how useful it is. Just because some stuff isn't taken away (Which there was by the way, video responses) doesn't mean it is automatically good. And yes we do have to use it because it is forced integration. You can't get out of it. It is forced. And we may lose those from Google, but then the people at Youtube who I bet will actually listen to the users will add hash tagging themselves. As for the Google integration? Forced? Wrong. It being forced is a thing that shouldn't be done. It isn't right. Tell me one drastic change they've made. They are trying to make something like facebook? Youtube should NEVER be like Facebook. You see, let me tell you the difference between facebook and youtube. Facebook is a social network for everyone to be able to easily communicate with eachother. Where organizations can get noticed better, and for many other reasons. Youtube is a website determined on storing millions of videos for everyone to watch. A media network. That's the difference and why they shouldn't BE making Youtube be like Facebook if they are trying that. And no, Google is not really new and scary to us, its just sorta lame. And yes, but that's not what we're talking about. Yes, integration is fine. Forced integration is not. And yes, you're right. But they aren't fixing any of the things that we have complained about to them, so if this keeps up, they are screwing us over. Helping us? Come on, during all what they are doing, I have skepticism in that statement. Joey Graceffa and Shane Dawson aren't the ones getting their videos flagged. It's video gamers and video game reviewers and pretty much anyone who does anything with video games who are having their videos flagged. And those who are having their videos flagged? They ARE losing money and their accounts can end up being TERMINATED by this. They already are because of what Google is doing. 3.) I never said that people do not like Google. I am basically saying people do not like their business practices on Youtube. Popularity isn't the case, I think you're missing the point. I didn't put up this debate to try to convince Google going to the ground. I am just saying they need to leave Youtube. And to your entire second paragraph, yes. And I want to point out to the voters these things: 1.) Fail content ID system. 2.) No video responses. 3.)The fact that the ability to turn off likes and dislikes was available before this. 4.) Censorship at its worst, just made off greed. Rebuttal section: 1.) Yes, Bob disappears now because not EVERY Youtuber does it anymore. To say that Google is responsible for getting rid of Bob is to say a player in a Halo game won the whole match just because he got the last kill. Of course they get rid of Bob now, because it is easy to get rid of it when all the users on Youtube are not spamming it. 2.) Your argument is invalid on this one, if Google is withdrawn from Youtube, then so is that system. So businesses can't do it anymore at all. Your third argument in this, the businesses were allowed to do this because Google is letting them. And I'd like to say right here, that you want to know why they don't flag Pewdiepie's or Smosh's videos? Because they have an overwhelming majority of fans and provide money to Youtube and attention. If businesses started flagging their videos, my case would strengthen greatly, and they know that. And AngryJoe and TotalBiscuit aren't doing anything wrong. They have checked rules, given credit, and are not breaking a single one. I challenge you to go and find one rule that they are honestly breaking. And show the proof. One. One rule they break that the companies do not allow. I challenge you. Voters, I won't lie to you. Look at all that Google is doing. They are screwing us over and don't give a damn for the users or content creators out there. On my opponents final focus for number 1, Youtube will be able to do the exact same thing on their own. Because I bet my money that they will listen more than Google is, and do everything that Google did right, and nothing that Google did wrong. Number 2, integration is fine. However, forced integration, is NOT. Do you want to be forced to use your Google+ account for Youtube? I know I don't. I request voters to urge for pro in this, I won't tell you what Youtube will be like but from its like right now and some of my predictions of what will happen if it is handed back to Youtube themselves, its better than what we have right now.