The LDS Concept of Faith is Irrational.

Thank you for picking the topic and being willing to change the word 'irrational' to unreasonable. ' Unfortunately, Pro"s understanding of church doctrine and interpretation is incorrect. "The world was framed by faith. " This is true, but let me explain. It"s important to understand that in LDS theology, every plant, animal, person and element have a soul. These souls have faith in Christ. So, when God commands, by the power of the priesthood, that the world should be created, the elements obey by faith. They act in faith. Faith in Christ. God didn"t have faith. Everything had faith in God and he used the power of the priesthood to command everything. Yes, the worlds were "framed by faith. " God commanded, and the elements obeyed through faith. This is how Moses parted the Red Sea. This is how Christ walked on water. The elements had faith and obeyed. They acted just as we act in faith to donate money and build churches and temples and provide humanitarian aid. These things were all "framed by faith in God. " Now read Pro"s quote again: "By this we understand that the principle of power, which existed in the bosom of God, by which the worlds were framed, was faith; and that it is by reason of this principle of power, existing in the Deity, that all created things exist-so that all things in heaven, on earth, or under the earth, exist by reason of faith, as it existed in HIM" Had it not been for the principle of faith the worlds would never have been framed, neither would man have been formed of the dust--it is the principle by which Jehovah works, and through which he exercises power over all temporal, as well as eternal things. Take this principle or attribute, (for it is an attribute) from the Deity and he would cease to exist". Who cannot see, that if God framed the worlds by faith, that it is by faith that he exercises power over them, and that faith is the principle of power? And that if the principle of power, it must be so in man as well as in the Deity? This is the testimony of all the sacred writers, and the lesson which they have been endeavoring to teach to man. " George A. Tate explains further: "The world came into being at God"s command; it was populated by all manner of living forms that set about to fill the measure of their creation. But in another sense, creation is ongoing, since its aim has not been fulfilled. If it is God"s "work and [his] glory" to "bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man" (see Moses 1:39), creation is not complete until we have fulfilled the measure of our creation. " (1) He continues: "Human work, however modest, is part of ongoing creation. The creation is not complete, it does not reach its plenitude without our collaboration, our laboring with the Lord in his work, without what we do and what we create. This includes not only the great works of the past like the tragedies of Sophocles, the Cathedral of Chartres, and Bach"s Mass in B Minor, but also all the products of our minds and hands, from the lowliest to the best. " (1) LDS theology is perfectly coherent. One just needs the whole definition, rather than carefully selected bits. So even if an atheist looks at the LDS concept of faith. One would have to admit that there is a product of faith. There is a physical, tangible product that directly results from the LDS concept of faith. Ultimately, the resolve is stated: The LDS Concept of Faith is Unreasonable. Pro has used contrived logic to try to support this claim. Just because one doesn't understand all of the church doctrine doesn't mean that doctrine is unreasonable. The human experience cannot be had by a purely rationale thinking being (robot). Human kind reasons through the lens of instinct and lust and passion and pride. Though these are not rational, they are certainly reasonable for human kind to participate in, because they enrich the human experience. These things improve life. When a Mormon helps his neighbor because he feels it is a commandment to do so, he does something tangible that he would otherwise not have done. He does it through faith. The more people acting, the more "works" they do. So one doesn"t need to believe in the LDS concept of faith, or believe in God at all, to see that the LDS concept of faith is reasonable to Mormons who want to improve their lives and improve their world, because they receive a benefit from doing so. These people are using a 'theory of knowing' to make these kind of judgements and act on them. It is very closed-minded to assume that the scientific method is the only way for man reason. Theist or atheist alike, please vote for reason. (1) . https://speeches.byu.edu...