The users known as Ragnar_Rahl, PoeJoe, beem0r and s0m31john ought to play the next mafia game

Considering the greatness of his skill, I know this will be hard. I would also like to thank the readers for taking the time to read this. Formalities aside, we proceed. ---- Claims / Counterarguments ---- (Quick definition -- DDO: Acronym standing for Debate[Dot]Org. ) RE: Leethal ought to play because he has claimed he wishes to play. Not necessarily so. One's want for something is not justification for that something. A toddler can want a cool toy s/he saw on T. V. ; that is not justification for the toddler to have the toy. Many teenagers are pressured to take drugs or have sex; that does not necessarily mean they should take drugs and have sex. I, personally, wish to have a million dollars; it doesn't mean I ought to have it, for I would spend the money on useless, non-contributive waste from China. Not to mention, leethal is not relevant to this debate. The resolution reads, "The users known as Ragnar_Rahl, PoeJoe, beem0r and s0m31john ought to play the next mafia game. " There is no mention of leethal anywhere in that resolution. I ask my opponent why he mentions leethal as his introductory point. Could it be that this is the second carnation of this debate, the first of which my opponent threw out because leethal displayed confusion with, "That looks like fun, but confusing if you don't know the rules"? I kindly ask my opponent to explain. RE: None of the aforementioned users have participated in a debate. com mafia game, thus should give it try. Nor have any of the aforementioned users done a multitude of other activities. As I will claim later on, these mafia games weigh negatively on balance. Unless my opponent can claim that the aforementioned users ought to try and do every negative activity possible, this point does not stand. Sure, my opponent claims that there is no possible loss, but he forgets the time that will be wasted. Indeed, in a forum thread, three "celebrities of DDO" (including one included in the resolution) have told of the massive burden of pre-spring break work. [1] Time must be spent wisely for these high-school/college students. Indeed, as brian_eggleston claims, a mafia game requires persistent time attention every day. [2] RE: Mafia helps increase website activity, hence serves to benefit debate. orgs welfare But at what cost? Imagine if these mafia games had not existed -- had these seven-thousand-three-hundred-and-nine posts not been created, had forty percent of all posts in the miscellaneous forum, had twelve percent of all forums posts not been on mafia threads. As my opponent alluded to in his second point, mafia games do not contribute to outside observers. One must actively participate. So imagine if all the time spent on this random guessing game had been spent on informative/funny forum threads, on serious/comical debates, and on improving one's profile. Surely then the welfare of DDO would have been much better improved -- for my opponent forgets that mafia games only service those few who participate, and DDO receives half a million views a month. [3] I say, give the majority of these people who contribute to this five-hundred-thousand-page-hits-a-month statistic something THEY can enjoy; forget those few if DDO's welfare is truly your criterion. RE: Ragnar_Rahl, PoeJoe, beem0r, and s0m31john want to help DDO's welfare; therefore they ought to play. I agree that Ragnar_Rahl, PoeJoe, beem0r, and s0m31john want to help DDO's welfare; however, playing mafia does not help DDO's welfare. Playing mafia makes DDO an even worse website. Besides the fact that time wasted playing mafia could be better spent doing more contributive activities on this website, what mafia is is a forum game. As pointed out by PoeJoe and s0m31john, forum games hurt communities. That's why, as PoeJoe and s0m31john have said, most other forums disallow such games -- it is a bannable offense. NEGATED. ---- References ---- [1] . http://www.debate.org... [2] . http://debatefans.com... [3] . http://debatefans.com...