Rematch

The argument from change rebuttal: In the second paragraph you say God doesn't give us this. We get height(using the 12 year old 5'7 example) by genetics. We get our muscle mass not by God giving it to us, but by working out and strengthening our muscles. Everything we have is because of genetics. We all have genetic potential, just like the oak tree you use has the potential to become big from the little tree. We are like that tree metaphorically speaking. We go from an embryo to a fetus to a child to a teen to an adult to an elder. We all the genetic potential tells us how we are going to be. Using the punnet square and our knowledge of genetics, it's simple to see if we will grow past 5'7. We have the genetics to be great, but if we don't do it, we won't reach that potential. For example, if you can jump a great height, but you don't practice and use that ability, that ability will deteriorate. If you bench 225, but you don't workout in months, your max will go down. The change isn't God, it's us. We determine our fate. We determine our own destiny. We are born and are made up of chromosomes from both parents, and all have special attributes based off the genetics we had inherited. It's what we do with them that determines it. We are the change, not God. All these changes can be explained by science. Molecules, chemicals and chemical reactions, atoms, cells, chromosomes, all of these things and more that makes up everything in our world explain the changes of us. Science can explain the change of earth, and the universe. Science is the change, not God. The argument of design rebuttal: Nature does not need a designer. Do I create a tree? No, seeds are covered by layers of dirt and grow due to sunlight and water. Water is made up of a chemical formula of H20. Oxygen is a necessary chemical needed for a things to live and grow. Dirt is made up of different chemicals compounds. Light is an integration of electromagnetic waves. A seed is an embryonic plant enclosed in a protective outer covering called the seed coat, usually with some stored food. All of these things that create a simple tree are not made by a interior design, but by science, just like everything else in nature. The moral argument rebuttal: You don't need God or the bible to have morals. While the Stone Age cannibal may just seem like a killer, he knew what it was doing. It did it because of survival instinct. We still today show we have that instinct. What about the people who kill people in self defense. What about Aron Ralston, who amputated his right forearm to escape from a dislodged boulder. All of these show we do what we need to survive, and that's what the Stone Age man was doing. Tell me, as an atheist, one moral you have that I can't have? Their is none. God doesn't give us morals. We learn morals by our enviroment, listening to people like your parents,teachers, even children cartoon characters telling you what is wrong and right, reading children books with MORALS in them, and seeing acts of sins and seeing how people react and seeing people doing good and how they react. Mostly, it's common sense. You mean to tell me if I didn't have morals I wouldn't know it's wrong to kill a man? That's ridiculous. It's not God telling us it's bad, it's psychology. It's things we have learned from experiences we have had or seen, and once again mostly common sense.