This House Believes God Exists As A Trinity

I will use my previous arguments to dismantle Con's conclusion, since his conclusion evidently ignored previously stated facts, therefore, only a reassert of the facts with examples is all that is needed to implode Con"s final arguments. 1. the only thing he doubts is the Holy Ghost. "The Hebrew word for "spirit" in the Bible is ruach & the Greek is pneuma, both words denote "breath" or "wind," in which both are invisible forces." This comment establishes a pretext--that I affirm a belief in the concept of a "spirit." "Jewish scholars have never defined the Holy Spirit as anything except "the power of God." Here I corner my affirmation of spirit/[Holy]Spirit into the definition of "the power" of God thus establishing the Holy Spirit is a real thing. Con is wrong: "the only thing he doubts is the Holy Spirit." 2. there must be a mother Who is the mother of Jesus? According to the Bible, a literal real woman was (Mary). "Now if the Holy Spirit is a Personage like the Father or Son, what is his "family title"? " The Holy Spirit is never applied a family title." The HS has to be a Personage like the Father & Son. Without this Personage, it cannot hold a family title, without a definable family title, equality between the 3 does not exist. This is why Christian believe purports humans will one day be greater than angels because we will hold a family title, thus establishing an equality with the God Family because we are personages created in His image, after His likeness. 3. The Holy Ghost is that seed. Seed defined: a flowering plant's unit of reproduction, capable of developing into another such plant. a person's offspring or descendants a man's semen a small crystal introduced into a liquid to act as a nucleus for crystallization a small container for radioactive material placed in body tissue during radiotherapy. any of a number of stronger competitors in a sports tournament who have been assigned a specified position in an ordered list with the aim of ensuring that they do not play each other in the early rounds. Which one of these nouns (person, place, or thing) is the HS? Being the seed planted in Mary destroys the notion of the HS being an individual personage since the Christian belief is that Jesus was the seed, the individual personage, planted into her. According to Christian orthodoxy the Father used the HS to plant the Son into Mary"s womb. Either this scenario means a cuckolding orgy was going on with the Father watching the HS bump-n-grind Mary or the Father used his Holy Power (Spirit) to impregnate Mary with Christ. 4. Also the Holy Ghost is not mute, Mute defined: refraining from speech or temporarily speechless. a person without the power of speech deaden, muffle, or soften the sound of. The last definition is irrelevant since the allegation of the HS being a personage is under scrutiny, and I specifically address that angle with this rebuttal "Is he a mute?" This indicates the notion revolves around being capable of speech. 5. He appeared to Mary did he not? No the angel Gabriel appeared to Mary. Rule 3 prevents me from giving a detailed analysis on Luke 1:35 by referencing scholarly sources that define certain words in the Greek, to demonstrate by these scholarly commentaries that this Biblical passage reveals the HS as pneuma aka "wind" as in an invisible force. 6. He speaks to saints like Paul. This argument alludes to the Biblical verse Act 19:6. Since Pro has broken protocol of "No arguments may be based on the Bible" Rule 3 now becomes, in all fairness, voided. And to clarify for the judges, "the HS speaking to Paul" isn't commonly believed or supported in Christian circles so voiding of Rule 3 is not an act to circumvent it based on any other notion one might have for my doing so. Proving the HS never spoke to Paul, Act 19:6 "And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying " NASB "and Paul having laid on them his hands, the Holy Spirit came upon them, they were speaking also with tongues, and prophesying." Young's Literal Translation. Notice the HS never said a word esp. not to Paul. But what happened was the HS--God's POWER--allowed the people in the room the ability to speak in each one on native language and the other persons were able to understand them in their OWN language. That's divine power! An Asian man able to understand German even though he only understands Mandarin and natural doesn't know a single German word. 7. he Holy Spirit is the synthesis of God and Jesus so that he is indeed also God Let's review my original God definition in reverse now to fully and logical understand why the HS can't be God based on the conception of what a God is and what the word is universally established to mean. In the Bible the Hebrew word translated God is "Elohim." El/eloh/eloah means "mighty" an all-encompassing definition the Hebrews signified for their Personage Creator. "im" is the Hebrew plurality equivalent of English's "s" or "es". So "Elohim" means, under the Hebraic belief of a Personage Creator, more than one "mighty" Creator. There are only two deities in the Bible depicted to be Creators. The 1st Part of John 1:1 says "the Word was with God". Greek word here for God is "theon" and is set to the "accusative singular masculine", which literally translates grammatically as "the [Son] was with [a singular masculine] God". The 2nd Part of 1:1 says, "and the Word was God" The Greek word here is "theos" and is set to the "nominative singular masculine", which literally translates grammatically as "and the [Son] was [a singular masculine] God. Verified through Strong"s lexicon we get the picture is the Son was WITH a Fatherly Deity and was a Deity. We now understand why English translators attribute the word God (Greek"s theos) to Hebrew"s el/eloh/eloah. Because El meaning "mighty" as in God, can be pluralized as Elim meaning the same as Elohim aka Mighty Ones. Therefore with you break down John 1:1 the only two Personages you get are the Father and the Son. But my main point is this, John 1:2 repeats the accusative singular masculine "theos" and 1:3 states, "All things were made by Him; and without Him there wasn't anything made that was not made by Him." This "Him" is singled out are the literal Creator of all things. So where is the HS in these verses if it is an accusative or nominative singular Deity"a God as Pro claims? Remember we've long established God--Deity--is a Personage not pnuema--not wind as the HS is referred to. 8. Lastly the Holy Ghost also transcends time space and number, verily he is it, therefore since no other being except god can do this Of course the HS transcends time, space, and number that doesn't make it a God. You know what else transcends time, space, and number--Love. Is love a God? The Bible says God is love. To save space, I'll bypass my arguments using Divine Status, Quality, Nature to prove the HS isn't a God and move to an immediate summary. In conclusion, The Holy Spirit is ruach and pnuema, like wind, an invisible force used by both Father and Son. The Holy Spirit is the instrumentality by which Father & Son uses to reveal things to us, to create life, to make things real, to heal, to feed, to shelter, to retrain, to liberate, to communicate, to bless, to punish, to sustain the universal and all its complexity. Mark 3:28-30 "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin." Why? You can blasphemy the Father & Son and be forgiveness. Why not the HS? Because if you literally see God move a mountain you are witnessing the power of God in action. It is the great piece of tangible evidence of spiritual truth--to literally see & feel the "power" of God in action. If you cannot believe that literal tangible piece of proof, then you won't believe anything God has to say. That denial is blasphemy. Denial of God's active power before your eyes is unforgivable to God. The Holy Spirit isn't a God, it is the POWER of God.