Religion in the Modern Age

I'm not saying Scientology was whole product of science, But I know people that do believe science = Scientology and you can't really blame them, and I know the pros and con's of science. Your main argument has been the same and consistent, but still hasn't debated is the person more at fault, then what is around. If not then violence could be blamed on games, books,t.v,movies, anything. One less thing to blame war and violence. Does not help as much as churches have helped with their donations. http://www.christianpost.com... Also Christian schools, have a higher success rate and smarter students coming out of then public schools. So them not teaching is clearly untrue. First paragraph about Muslims, they would not be any less bloodthirsty and violent if religion didn't exist. They're goal is to be feared and gain power. I already mentioned American born terrorists, not being religious, killing people because they wanted to. Religion is a ruse and a poor excuse for acts of crime. And would not remove the killers and crazy people of the world, if religion didn't exist. Once more you point out, 18:22 Lev to prove a point but, you don't seem to understand Christians do not follow the old testament. They follow the new testament. You point out old things, to show why religion isn't good in modern age. Old does not equal modern. As I said, private Christian schools are more successful in teaching kids, and religious people are happier and give more money to others. How would anyone be better off? http://www.oldearth.org... No Christian school is teaching kids, the earth is 6,000 years old, nor is a modern church. In fact though trying to research it, they're are many Christian cases against it and also explaining how the bible really does not state any time. I looked for verses that say that, and found none. Women being mistreated in Muslim countries, once again without religion it still be happening because the people are crazy. They would not change if we stopped them from reading the Qu'ran. Your paragraph on god not being all-loving. Remember new testament. Not old. If you believe/accept Jesus in your heart, your forgiven of all your sins. They believe everyone is a sinner and all sins are equal. Homosexuality, I'd call it lust. Lust is a sin, but no one is better then anyone else. All people are sinners even after the fact. People judging are sinning themselves. Humans are hypocrites. Also I'm speaking more from a atheist standpoint. The mere idea of an all loving god and the presence of heaven gives more people comfort then a guy on a phone getting paid for giving you therapy. Nature doesn't care about anything, it just exists. It can be peaceful but nature has natural disasters...Music can be religious and also can be bad for society. Almost everything has pros and con's. My question is, does it do more good then harm, is so. It's a good thing. Also most religions have no exclusion whatsoever. Things like Taoism, or pantheism, Buddhism and everything most people wouldn't point to when they think religion has nothing against non believers. Also I may point out out of the thousands of religions, only 3 of them get complaints. Divide 3 by a thousand see how many religions cause problems... Your saying religion can be used as an excuse for occasional crazy people leads to why religion shouldn't exist. There have been millions of killers without religious reasoning for their crimes. A dozen people choke to death on ballpoint pens every year, I don't believe removing pens from markets is the answer. It won't not solve anything and it would lead to many people killing themselves, killing others and committing crimes. Because 'why not'? and donations to the poor would plummet which would lead to suffering. I've pointed out people who are religious are generally happier. So yes we would see a decline in global happiness guaranteed. Also you say, all the orphans and friendless people can find hope, which I don't disagree with but you give no other way they can receive it. I guess repeating friends and family wouldn't help much. The kids families probably sympathises with their daughter going to prison so that right there is someone. Also just because religion can be used as an excuse to kill, it is not exclusive as I said and it is not the majority or even close to its followers. Even Muslims and terrorist acts do not compare in numbers. http://www.guttmacher.org... As for abortion issue. Support groups like child services among many things that help children/help single parents or families that have kids. The age group of most people having abortions is 20-24. They college age, your telling me lack of thought before sex doesn't factor in with abortion. Most people state, they can't afford the child. If you can't afford kids you shouldn't have sex. Period. It's irresponsible in the first place. It almost never is because of health reasons or rape. Sometimes its as awful as parents or husband wanted it. Also reasons like a negative impact on mothers life, which is selfish not responsible. http://www.christianity.com... https://www.google.com... A Christian business man founded the red cross...just saying. Also the founder salvation army was a Methodist Reform church goer. And there site talks about god positively, and most likely is still religious. As correct as your statement is those were quite poor examples of support groups being helpful not just religious ones. And even then churches helped Haiti before their own government...they're pretty damn wide spread. You say more people bash Christianity because there more Christians which therefore means more issue. But to put a different case to prove that incorrect. "The number is bigger therefore the problem is bigger" Who creates more violence? 200 to 1 for black on white crime vs white on black crime. Blacks are the minority yet they cause more crime. Also I do not see many people online or popular atheist bashing Christians on any popular online sites. I've covered mostly everything you've discussed. I believe religion is harmless for the most part, you believe religion is harmless for the most part. You and I agree killers will still kill. You believe removing a single excuse for their killing will revolution the idea of man and change it. I believe far more good comes from religion and doing that would at best improve nothing and at worse make things much worse...I've done my best to proof my case. Thank you for this debate. I enjoyed it greatly. I hope you have a good new year.