College campuses should allow students to carry guns for protection.

---There is no correlation between the drinking students and the ones that bring guns. There probably is some overlap, but that does not make your argument true nor absolute. Actually, I don't see anything in this first paragraph of yours proving anything; all of it is merely a "suggestion". And I shall not take it. Probably because I haven't heard of any incidents other than VTech where theres been a college shooting. You use my base argument for your point, which was "Only people accustomed to guns will bring them", was that other people bring guns to school. Which is funny, because I'm going to turn the arg again. Let's look at it this way. You give me this quote from Columbia University that two thirds or so of college students use drugs. You turn my argument so that these druggies will be using the guns and be shooting people, AND THEN you add on this argument that more people than just gun fanatics will bring guns to school. However, people are doing this RIGHT NOW (you don't give any reasons why your situations only happen in a world if we vote PRO), and you haven't given me any incidents in which college shootings have happened, and because I think colleges are generally a good place, I'm going to assume shootings AREN'T regular and therefore your point is disproved. Oh, and the "targets" argument? If you actually asked the real gun fanatics, you'll find that most of them spend more time playing paintball than at the firing range. Paintball is pretty realistic. Your "threat" argument can easily be taken out by my original argument - defense is better than no defense. And since, as you said, more people will have them, then that means EVEN IF the person who pulls out a gun is seen as a threat by the perp, that will buy time for everyone else to pull their guns out and shoot. Sounds dirty and "using lives" in an unjust way, I agree, but I believe that having a few people die as heroes is better than a whole group of people being slaughtered without any sort of way to fight back. IMPACT >>> People generally WILL have better defense against attackers, as having a gun and shooting back is better than just sitting there waiting to be systematically murdered. ---The armory was just an example to point out the vagueness of your case. ---Two layers to the Rubber Bullet. 1) "Target" - Re-apply the argument above the first impact. 2) That's exactly what we want. I don't know about you, but here's how I see a situation in which a colelge shooting had students armed with rubber bullets - The perp walks in and perhaps shoots a few people. By then people will have realized he's a threat and pulled out their guns and started shooting. As you have conceded, this will slow down the shooter, and fatigue him/her for a little while. During this time, other people will be stepping up and disarming the perp. I'd like to believe that college students are bright enough to know that they have to not just stand there and shoot like its a firing range (although those people will be useful too, as they keep firing at the perp while others are trying to disarm him/her), and that a few of them have to take up the job to take away the gun(s) from the intruder. IMPACT >>> This argument by itself wins the round, as it provides more and higher efficient security. --- The setback is all it takes. Notice how the perp of VTech had things planned out and jammed the doors shut? EVEN IF there is enough campus police and EVEN IF they are efficient, unless there is a squad of police in each and every college classroom (one would not be as efficient, as that person would be shot first and then the rest of the classroom is just an eeny-meeny-miny-moe game for the perp), campus police aren't ever going to be enough to prevent or take down these shooters quickly or efficiently enough. Guns do not make defense weaker. I have disproven the Campus Police argument, showing that there is a need for students to arm themselves; I have won the Rubber Bullet argument, and since SandlasJuagas never specifies what type of gun or bullet in the resolution I ADVOCATE RUBBER BULLETS IN HANDGUNS; and finally I have turned the "Student Inefficiency" argument, proving that students don't and won't just randomly go out and shoot people just because they're drunk. I will provide the line-by-line voting issues for the reader at the end of R3.