Performing Abortions Should be Illegal

You really went with the nuclear option quickly. Surprising. 1. There is little interesting distinction between making abortions legal and making performing abortions legal. The only real difference is who you punish. On top of that, Medical professionals are not necessary to have abortions. In this case, Is abortion still illegal? There are pills you can take to abort a fetus. Would you find this an offense that should not be punished? The abortion pill works past the 8 week mark you have set, But would be legal to be purchased. The people supplying the pills would not be able to be held liable if someone bought it and used it. If you think this is fine then abortion past your mark is legal. Performing abortions being illegal would not stop abortion itself. I imagine stopping abortions is your end goal. All of my arguments work towards keeping the performance of abortions legal. Your complaint is a moot point. 2. Performing abortions would be legal in the world you have set up until 8 weeks. This is legal performance of abortion. You have as much as conceded the debate before it has begun. If your title was "Performing abortions after brain activity has begun" then you would be consistent. It was not. Technically brain activity may not even begin until after this 8 week point. Abortions are legal then until brain activity occurs. Practically speaking doctors would scan for brain activity and then abort if they see none. They wouldn't know if it had some brain activity prior. 3. If you aren't valuing breath or heartbeat why mention them? Why pretend Doctors use those as part of a definition of life? 4. Try not to complain about me perhaps not addressing every single point in a 5k character debate where you have typed 5k characters and I only have 5k characters to make my point and respond. Especially if you ignore half my points. 5. I never guessed DNA was your value. I addressed people who value 'life' and then people who value 'DNA. ' It saves me time because typically anti-abortion people immediately jump back on that. It is not a strawman to include points you haven't but may bring up. You don't know the definition of a strawman. Perhaps if you're going to mince words so much read mine before you levy critique where it is not due. 6. I've contested the "principle of assumed life" about 3 or 4 different ways. Did you even read my debate? I'll let the judges decide. Eggs and sperm are 'life' they are also 'human. ' I don't care about these concepts. I care about persons. When does a baby become a person? A fertilized egg is a form of human. It is alive. A fetus is alive and a human. None of this matters. Personhood is all I value. So you can assume life all you want. The principle itself doesn't matter at all to me. You can't just dismiss the philosophical idea of personhood by saying "it is undecided and controversial. " You actually have to engage with my arguments. If you're dismissing my definition because it is undecided and controversial, I can dismiss yours as well. The definition of life is undecided and controversial. Exactly what percentage of society have to 'agree' on a definition for it to be true? If we're going with the majority on this, I've already won the debate. Most of society believe performing abortions should be legal. Is this convincing to you? No? Why would it be grounds to ignore my arguments? To value life again you have to value all life. If you do so that's fine. I assume you've never killed an animal or eaten harvested meat. At least you'd be consistent then. If you eat meat holding only 'assumed life' as a principle then you are not consistent. If you assume life you have no reason to allow abortions to 8wks. In fact, You have to value at conception. Why do you value brain activity? Maybe you value personhood. For you to only value life you have to say that pulling the plug on a human body is murder as well. 7. I've addressed this. People don't have to be aware of committing a crime for harm to happen, And for them to be punished for it. If someone sleepwalks into your house waving a gun around you can shoot them. It is entirely possible for both parties to be innocent and for someone to need to protect themself. Abortion should be legal in the grey area between 8-26 weeks because of simple facts. It is the woman's body. Carrying a baby to term does permanent damage. Carrying and delivering a baby risks the mother's life in 100% of scenarios. It is not always foreseeable that the child is endangering the mother. Abortion is 14x safer than delivering a baby. The fetus is ALWAYS guilty of theft, And endangering the mother at least. 8. We don't force people to give blood, Donate kidneys, Et cetera. We don't force people to save people from a burning building. We don't force people to dive into water to save children. We don't even raise taxes on people with yachts to save millions of people from suffering and tens of thousands from death. Do you think we should?