Tom Seaver(Pro) Vs. Nolan Ryan(Con)

Let's go over a few things about Nolan Ryan's career in terms with Tom Seaver's; in terms of dominance, reasoning behind no Cy Young, and stats. Era You said that with the seven extra years in Ryan's career, at one point, Ryan had a better era than Seaver. This whole debate, you decided to find points where Ryan was better than Seaver, throughout the years.. What you said is true, however, it is more professional to look at their era's overall, not at different time periods. As said before, Seaver had a lower era than Ryan, overall. This is the final result at the end of their careers. Ryan was away from Seaver by .33 at the end of his career, in terms of era, even when he lasted longer in the league than Seaver. The overall average counts, not the era at different periods of time. http://behindbag.blogspot.com... Cy Young As stated before, Tom Seaver received 3 Cy Young Awards, the highest achievement for a pitcher in major league baseball. Nolan Ryan received none, even though he holds a high record of 5,714 strikeouts and seven no-hitters. The question is how can a pitcher, with these records, not have even one Cy Young Award? The answer is not hard to explain. Ryan was nominated for the award multiple times, 4 times in fact. He was nominated in 1972, 1973, 1974, and 1977. He could of won the award in one of these years, but didn't. The voters did not recognize Ryan's greatness, but more or less believed that there were better pitchers out there than Ryan himself. The people voting could of voted for him, recognizing his greatness, but instead chose a pitcher they believed was better than him. Not to mention, Ryan had serious competition around him in the American League, making his chances of winning the Cy Young even tougher. Gaylord Perry won in 1972, Jim Palmer in 1973, Catfish Hunter in 1974, and Sparky Lyle in 1977. These guys were great pitchers, all testing Ryan's power. Tom Seaver however, won the award three times for a few reasons. He had no serious competiton compared to Ryan, he was recognized for his greatness, and simply was a great pitcher. Ryan had four chances, all with no results. Dominance Nolan Ryan was a pitcher to be scared of, as you explained with a direct quote. This made him look dominant, especially his style of throwing a fastball, curveball, etc. Tom Seaver, however, was something else. Average batters couldn't stand to even look at him, never mind scared to hit a ball off of him. They didn't want a pitcher like Tom Seaver standing across from them, on the mound, because they knew they would be roasted. No matter what type of baseball pitch, Seaver would throw fireballs to the plate, making him look powerful to hitters and other pitchers around the league. Seaver was probably, or the most dominant pitcher in the whole National League conference. And there was a point where Seaver was regarded as the greatest pitcher at the time. The years would be from 1973-1975, which was his peak. Seaver was more dominant than Ryan. His stats including the era, whip, BB, and cg will further examine his dominance on the mound. http://behindbag.blogspot.com... Other stats Even though Ryan played longer than Seaver, he couldn't beat his stats, which included the era, whip, BB, and cg. Seaver even had more complete games than Ryan, even though he played started less games than Ryan. This is a major flaw in your argument with Ryan's longevity. You would think someone that played longer would gain more complete games, but no. the pitcher that started less games did. Better stats gets you more recognition. This goes with Seaver. He had the better stats. http://behindbag.blogspot.com.... Ryan has the no-hitter and strikeout count. He also holds more walks, or BB's than Seaver. Every other stat belongs to Seaver. Nolan Ryan was great pitcher. Seven no-hitters and 5,714 strikeouts is an accomplishment by itself. Tom Seaver and his stats can not be ignored. Although Ryan made batters sickly, Seaver made his presence well-known. His dominance in the league made him earn 3 Cy Youngs, and an impressive record of stats. Ryan again, great pitcher no doubt. Seaver was unique.