Religion, Atheism, and Science are Dead Wrong About Reality

*** Conspiracy theory, I'm afraid, is usually lacking in theory and entirely a delving into Applied Conspiracy-- e.g., how to make one. *** This is not conspiracy "theory" it's conspiracy fact. No one's making assumptions or guessing what might be taking place behind the scenes. The elite's have written specifically what they plan to do and how to do it in their books. It's a matter of taking a walk to the bookstore. *** Religion is certainly wrong about reality, though the "Illuminati" have nothing to do with it-- it doesn't take some vast coordinated conspiracy to do what mad disorganized mystics and people who want to evade responsibility can do for you. *** The Illuminati have everything to do with it. If you understand the structure of the Illuminati, it is comprised of all the highest ranking members from various secret societies. If you deny the influence of secret societies on religion, you have much to learn. The Knights Templar and the Freemasons have very strong ties to Judeo-Christianity. Joseph Smith was a Freemason. The Jewish Kabbalah is basically an Occult book. Look at any church and you will see massive Masonic and Templar symbolism. Rosicrucians and the Priory of Scion have strong ties with Catholicism. Many religious doctrines are all founded on twisted occult knowledge. That should tell you enough right there. Remember though, religion in general is not really apart of the conspiracy because the followers and priests believe it's real so it's self perpetuating. It's the origins and the religious leaders that are. How could religion be so wrong on accident? It's not an accident. *** "Official science" is a meaningless construct. Science is not a belief system, it is a method-- a method that states that looking at reality repeatedly with your eyes wide open will give you a good idea of what is real. Now wtf is wrong about that exactly? *** The mainstream scientific community is a belief system. In order to be a scientist, you must conform to the scientific norms (some exceptions). *** David Icke.. The person theorizing that the world is run by REPTILE PEOPLE is not a good sauce for an ad authoritatem fallacy. *** "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." - Albert Einstein And what's with this "ad authoritatem fallacy" BS? Who's to say who's legitimate or an authority in a subject? David Icke is an expert in ALL subjects and has been researching for 20 years in over 40 countries. *** Atheism is merely a denial of God. To this position evolution is essentially irrelevant *** Yes, but usually evolution comes attached with Atheism. Evolution is a core belief in Atheism. *** "Though environment and external forces do compel species to adapt and sometimes change physical form" That, it happens, is the theory of evolution in a nutshell. *** I thought it had to do with the selfish gene and life emerging from microbes. *** "this does not mean that a self replicating molecule has a mind of its own that can choose to be a blood cell, a brain cell, or a skin cell." And that, it happens, is a straw man, having nothing to do with the theory of evolution, or indeed any other theory I've ever heard. *** Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins explained the origins of life as the result of the first self replicating molecule. *** The first is a strawman in it's formulation, the second a valid epistemic criticism, since there is exactly as much evidence for those "Gods" as the usual ones. *** I don't care about all of this debate terminology about "strawmans" and what not. If I am misrepresenting your position, then just say so. I don't think pointing out "unsound" arguments should be a factor in winning a debate. Just refute it or say you don't hold those beliefs. *** Well hey, we can see the rest of it with machines, duh. The problem is that we have to detect it SOMEHOW to believe in it-- which has to be, because any other position on epistemology demands belief in unicorns, fairies, and reptile people :). *** We can detect some of the other frequencies outside of visible light, but we haven't searched all of them with regaurds to detecting ETs and such. *** The truth about reality is that we are all infinite consciousness expressing itself differently in a holographic, multi-dimensional multiverse of infinity." Problem: Epistemology. Prove it. *** Holographic Proof http://www.wariscrime.com... http://www.rense.com... Multiverse Proof http://scienceline.org... Multi-dimensions Proof http://www.indiadaily.com... Consciousness Proof http://www.quantumconsciousness.org... *** Another problem: This violates the Law of Identity. Everything which exists has a specific, LIMITED (not infinite) identity-- specific traits, it has to be something in particular-- or nothing in particular. *** Everything is interconnected, so things that are limited are connected with that which is infinite. *** Another problem: Contradicts the evidence-- when I smack my hand on the desk, the desk is clearly not a hologram. *** That's because your mind is perceiving the desk to be solid. The desk is at a density that which your physical senses decode to be "solid." In reality, solidity is relative to that which is observing. Your body perceieves matter that is condensed tighter than it, it is decoded as solid. Matter that is less dense than your body is perceived as gasous. If you existed on a higher frequency, you would be able to walk through walls, just as radio waves can travel through walls. *** Another problem: Contradicts the evidence again, infinite consciousness means we should know everything, yet clearly we don't. *** We have been disconnected from the infinite consciousness and have been trapped in the left brain and the physical matrix. We don't know much because we haven't reached higher levels of consciousness. The Illuminati is manipulating and suppressing us with electromagnetic polution and media hypnosis and indoctrination. People have been stuck in intellect, but intelligence is stupid compared to consciousness. *** Another problem: Define universe, and multiverse in terms of universe. *** Generally, universe means everything that exists, but when we are talking about the multiverse, universe refers to the bubbles that emerged from big bangs in the 11 dimensional hyperspace. *** :Consciousness is energy. Prove it. *** Brain waves = energy. Delta, Theta, Alpha, Beta, and Gamma waves. *** :We have been trapped in a 3 dimensional apparently solid world of matter. Trapped from what? *** Trapped in the 3rd dimensional matrix, disconnected from the higher dimensions of infinity. *** As for superstrings, those are unevidenced conjecture and therefore irrelevant. *** They have been mathematically proven. We just don't the technology to actually observe a superstring. *** If it were "mere perception" with no reference to actual traits, we should be able to push through by ignoring our senses. Yet we aren't, therefore the perception has an actual meaning. *** This is true. The thing is is that we are not the body, and our bodies are programmed not to penetrate dense objects. Our consciousness however, can leave the body and travel anywhere. *** Time certainly has no beginning (law of identity) but it "looping" is unproven as all heck. *** By looping, I meant like a circular infinite timeline. Lines are limited, therefore, finite. *** An infinite intelligent force is a contradiction in terms. Intelligence is a means of thinking about specific, limited things in a specific, limited way, and nothing can have a nonspecific existence. *** True, "conscious" would be a more appropriate term.