Miles Edgeworth was actually a better lawyer than Phoenix Wright.

Experience: I accept your concession (how surprising!) Evidence in court: My opponent holds that the prosecution only appears to have more evidence due to their better lawyerly skills. I will simply disagree: Phoenix has to do all his investigations himself, whereas the prosecutors get their information largely from the detectives. Sure, phoenix might get an autopsy report here and there from hem too, but that's about it. He's always ignorant of much of the evidence brought up in court, something the prosecution doesn't have a problem with. I also will assert that detective abilities are not the measure of a lawyer's ability, since it's not a lawyer's job. Even in the PW universe, detectives exist. Also, my opponent has stated that Phoenix has an upper hand by knowing a lot about the defendant beforehand; however, the prosecutors thoroughly know their witnesses, and Edgeworth himself is known to prep his witnesses - telling them not to release certain info unless specifically asked. A good lawyer would not have to conceal facts in this matter, yet Edgeworth does. Delaying the trial: I can't say I recall any delaying of a guilty verdict until after both lawyers knew De Killer was... the direct culprit. However, I suppose it would not surprise me if I was wrong here. Why? Not because Phoenix is a poor lawyer, but because the judge is visibly and blatantly biased in favor of the prosecution, regardless of the prosecutor. This is evident in his blatant disregard for the basic principles of law: he is ready to give a guilty verdict whether there is reasonable doubt or not. In some cases, he'll give a guilty verdict after it's been shown that the defendant almost certainly didn't do it. This may give the illusion that the prosecution is skilled, but it is just that: an illusion. The judge never accepts the defendant's claims unless they are backed to the brim with solid, conclusive evidence. All the prosecution needs is some random person to accuse the defendant, regardless of how reliable the testimony is. In a land where you're guilty until proven innocent, it's no wonder the prosecution is able to appear to do so much better. Also, I don't see why Phoenix couldn't have delayed any of the trials he won. He simply didn't have a reason to, so he didn't. I assume by delaying a trial my opponent means stopping a verdict from passing in favor of hearing more testimony or having some other deliberation. And about burden of proof: fortunately for the prosecution, this doesn't apply to claims made by random, often untrustworthy witnesses. This is the fatal flaw in the PW universe's legal system, and it is what makes it seem as though Edgeworth is more skilled than Phoenix. Also, the reason the Judge was on Phoenix's side for the greater part of trial 4 in JFA was because Edgeworth was not fighting for the Judge's favor at the time, in order to delay the case. This does not mean that the Judge is neutral wen it comes to defense vs. prosecution, but simply that he won't favor the prosecution in a one-sided fight. He's biased, but not THAT biased. Verdict: My opponent agrees that the verdict is what counts, and that presentation is simply a means to achieve said verdict, but Phoenix has always gotten the correct verdict. True, he has had some help along the way, and some cases have looked rough at times, but he always comes through by making the judge give out the correct verdict. The same cannot be said of Edgeworth. Rogue or No: It seems to have come up a lot from my opposition, so I will discuss it here: Edgeworth acts alone, while Phoenix also relies on others around him. Does this make Edgeworth better? Certainly not. If anything, it makes him worse. Phoenix has gone about getting ties to people who can vastly help him, while Edgeworth has not. Which is the better decision? Which would you prefer your lawyer to do? While Phoenix is making a wise decision that could help him win cases, Edgeworth is stroking his ego despite the difficulties that brings. Which one makes the better lawyer? You decide, I suppose. Gestures: While he could theoretically point and slam the desk at the same time, Edgeworth does not have an animation for this, ergo that point is moot. Also, while we're on the topic of slamming the desk, Phoenix does it much better. In this case, two hands are better than one; it gives the gesture more feeling to it. Also, my opponent says not to forget the animation Edgeworth is making in my avatar. Please, accept this advice - for it is the best animation Edgeworth has to offer. Also, my opponent brought up the bowing gesture of Edgeworth's. While it is a good gesture, it cannot make up for the other downfalls of Edgeworth's gestures. My point to vote on: Relying on others does not make one a bad lawyer, nor does relying only on oneself make one a good lawyer. My opponent wants you to vote on the individual wits of each lawyer, even though Phoenix is smart enough not to simply rely on his individual wits in court. Even so, it is obvious that the Judge is far too easily swayed by the prosecution's witnesses, which is what gives the illusion that Edgeworth is himself a better lawyer than Phoenix. Regardless, in Phoenix's cases, justice always prevails, while the same cannot be said for Edgeworth. If I was wrongly accused of a crime, I would much rather Phoenix handle my case than Edgeworth. Edgeworth is not a better lawyer for relying only on himself, he is a fool for it. I guess that's enough, rofl. Sorry about the long wait, I'm at my stepbrother's house and without my real computer (using mah POS laptop). Good luck to both of us.