Portugal was the most successful imperial power

Claim about me lieing about my definition/sources: Incorrect. Did you even click my link? The very first definition is the one that I copied. Please do not throw around the word "lier" like you have repetitvely when you are incorrect with that assessment. Are you using a computer to do this debate or a phone? Perhaps if you're using a phone you are only getting the mobile version of the website and thus not seeing the definition I posted, but it's pretty clear IMO. Concerning the map that I posted that you believe strengthens your case: Brazil only fell into Portugal's hands because of the time period in which they acquired Brazil. Had there been more competition at the time rather than just Spain and Portugal, Portugal never would've taken over Brazil. It only took 400 years for them to lose it as well. You argue with me that 400 years is a lot of time. Sorry sir, but 400 years is nothing in terms of an empire. 400 years is a fraction of the time the Romans and the Egyptians held all of their territory for. The Roman Empire for example, lated from 27 BC to 1453 AD, a grand total of 1,480 years [source: history.howstuffworks.com]. You dare argue, that the Portuguese Imperialistic Empire, which only lasted from 1415 to 1999 [source: history.howstuffworks.com], was more succesful than the Roman Imperialistic Empire, or British? It doesn't matter how many pictures you try to put up that just show the "spread of influence" in the oceans when there were no other naval powers during that time period. The facts speak for themselves. Besides, if the Portuguese were the most succesful at spreading their beliefs and customs as you say, then why did the Portuguese Empire die out in only 584 years? That my friend, is NOTHING compared to other empires in history. Where is the influence of the portuguese in today's world? In the United States, China, or Russia, there is relatively little Portuguese influence. You say by your definition that influence is just as large a part of Imperialism as is power (which it isn't, but whatever). You know which Imperialistic Civilization is still influencing us today? The Romans, which by the way, the Portuguese look like mince meat next to these guys. The Romans invented the original Gregorian Calender, which the modern calender used internationally is based off of. The Imperialistic Romans were also the first to invent Aqueducts. I wonder how many countries still use those today? Oh, want to know what else the Romanc invented that influenced the entire world? Newspapers. The base welfare system. Bound books. ROADS and HIGHWAYS. And even CONCRETE. Look around you today. Look around the world. You know what, I won't even let you answer that question. I'll answer it myself with the reputable source of rsc.org(http://www.rsc.org...). Concrete is the single most widely used material in the WORLD. You can thank all of these inventions that you take for granted today because of the Romans. So wait, does anyone still think the Portuguese really, by his definition, extend their country's power and influence more than the Roman Imperialistic Empire did? Well, I looked up the Portuguese Empire's most influential inventions and their influences. All I found was three things (from http://www.portugalwanderer.com...): 1) Caravel (Important for a while, but no longer used) 2) Manual Language for the Deaf 3) Portuguese sea food cuisines (not even kidding. That's all they could come up with) Additionally, I forgot to add the Romans spread something across the world that no other can claim: Christianity. Christianity has been around since it first began in Jerusalem and spread from the Roman Empire outwards[source: PBS.org/evidenceforchristianity.org]. How many people has Christianity influenced? Billions. According to a study conducted in 2011, 516 million people are followers of Christianity. Yikes, I have proven how obvious it is that Portuguese influence pales in comparison to Roman influence. Lastly, after proving that the Romans have had way more influence than the Portuguese, I will not bother wasting my time trying to find a reputable source for military comparison between Romans and Portuguese. We all know by common knowledge that the Romans were a better army and had more power. There's a reason they lasted longer. In conclusion, I have proven my points, and negated every single one of yours by 1) The Roman Empire lasted longer, had a stronger, more dominating, and much larger army, and have spread influence in the form 2) Sources: http://www.pbs.org... http://www.rsc.org... https://www.evidenceforchristianity.org... http://history.howstuffworks.com... http://www.portugalwanderer.com... http://www.dailymail.co.uk... ======================= It was a pleasure debating with you, but I fully expect to take home the victory after this rebuttal.