Same-sex Marriage vs Religion

"I must say, I wasn't expecting you to go into such detail with references from the bible." I did that because you specifically said "I don't understand why people are so against same sex marriage on the basis of religion, especially Catholics" You also said "I have been researching into why people oppose gay marriage on the terms of religious beliefs and the majority of people have said that they don't want same- sex couples to be married purely because they believe that marriage is a ritual for child bearing" I showed you the reason, and the view of Christian on that matter, keeping in mind that your debate was focus on "SAME-SEX MARRIAGE VS RELIGION" You then stated "My argument against this isn't exactly an argument but more a question." Question which I believe I answer using the Bible. Why am I summarizing our previous talk? Because you started out by totally dismissing the The whole religious view of this, and I do believe that was what I'am standing for. "so sorry but I'm not a devoted Christian, I've never read or looked at any other parts of the bible that didn't include stories from my religion education syllabus!." I really do not care how devoted you are to your believes, the whole point of a debate is from my point of view is to learn and reject what you don't agree with. If you do not have much knowledge of the Bible, how can you say people find little sentence that will back their point of view?" The bible is not written in chronological order, and it is not like any story book, it is written in chapters and verses, what is in a verse cannot be change, it's like a law book, once it is written, if someone take a little part of it to SUPORT their argument, you will know where they took that sentence from, and you go and view it yourself and correct them if needed. "But doesn't God also forbid cheating on your spouse? And stealing from thy neighbour" I'm sure you and I can com to an agreement that cheating on your spouse and stealing are not the same as marrying someone who is the same sex as you, even worse having sex with the same sex. Once again this is where knowledge of the Bible is needed. You need to understand the punishment and Gods view on these matter. You cannot compare them as if they are the same type of crime, you cannot compare a second degree murder to terrorism. "But lets look at it from your view: socially, politically, economically". I could have talk about it from these view, but I would be getting of your focus of this debate. Which is again "SAME-Sex VS RELIGION" Ok let me enlighten you a bit, here is my version. When slavery was still around slave did not have any right at all, unless given by the slave owner, they are also human just everyone else. But they where just not recognize by society as a free human with free will. Them being free was not going to hinder the laws either, so how will treating someone equally be a political issue? You see where we are going? Of track that is where we are going. However I am not dismissing your argument, to ask question like how will this effect everyone? And what does politic have to do with it. I don't know much about Irish, because I will need to know politics and how this matter is in effects, same as other field, I have no problem doing that, but this debate is just not in that field, yet, extended then sure why not. and I also think you are overlooking the fact that this is the only generation that is trying to even allow conversation about this. This gay thing did not started today, and for the fact that it's been hidden for society for so many era, people back then new something was not nature about it, and by natural I mean, having a men having sex with another men. I truly give this generation credit, and those that are squeezing since into that whole pictures. This is a major thing, and everything that is said about it should be thought of carefully, going into personal view, men have different quality, no mater what type of drugs they take, same for females, I truly believe that every child whether a girl or a boy need to be expose to each of these quality, from a men and a women. Maybe some might say men can also provide the same quality of love for a child as a female. I strongly disagree with that, I know how it feels like when I was a child, when my dad touch me just to put me to sleep, like rub my head, or pick me up, with my mother it felt different, even when I was not fully awake, I always knew who was picking me up and putting me to bed, yes today their are pills to change men voice into female, but if my dad sounded like my mom, and my mom sounding like a men, I'm not sure of the scientific effects of that, but it will have an effect on me. Notice how your story was more focus on the finical benefit of gay people? Well what about their other issues we have to face, issue like will a mother allow her sun to have a gay teacher in school? Or should gay men be allow in the same watch room as non gay? What about laws for gay people and what kind of law will their be? Their are laws for male and female on just about everything? Is fair for athletes as well, will their be an Olympic for gay people? And how will you decide if a gay athlete is a men athlete or female athlete? I see a lot of confusion at certain corner here. So I guess it does have its effects on politician in some ways.