God Exists

1. Argument for a personal cause: Yes, existence can be by a decision. For example, computers exist from a decision, at least by a free will agent. This is true with most technology. The point is that the universe doesn’t decide to exist or causes on it’s own… so this would mean that (A) the universe must be eternal (B) Caused by a freewill agent. If the universe is eternal, this causes some philosophical problems. If time is infinite, from whence did finite time come? For say one can draw from the second law of thermodynamics that the universe is grinding down to a cold dissolute lifeless hell, if time happened an infinite time ago why aren’t we in this dissolute future? About the all-powerful part… Hmm… So we’re not actually debating God here, we’re debating a custom defined God. Ok gotcha. Not sure if I should concede here or not, cause why do I want people to believe in a custom defined God? 2. Argument for a designer There is not any “artistic” structure in a singularity, I see no reason to asses that any artistic structure came from it. In the human body there is DNA, that’s code, I’ve never seen a computer code itself without an intelligent programmer. If your not swayed by this clear evidence of a creator, I have no idea what will cure this poison of skepticism from you. I doubt that if God descended down from heaven and told you he existed you would believe, even if he did miracles in front of you. 3. The Omnipotence Paradox I’m not defying logic, I’m following it. The logic here is clear cut, if an omnipotent being can do all things, it is valid to asses that paradoxes are possible with an omnipotent being simply because omnipotence can do anything. Also if you’re saying paradoxes or contradictions can’t happen or exist, this would be your burden of proof, not mine. I myself don’t know if it’s possible or not if paradoxes exist, though obviously it’s possible if an omnipotent being does exist. I personally believe that contradictions or paradoxes don’t actually happen because they’re contrary to the nature of my God (not sure about other gods). But if I was an atheist, I would have no valid reason to assume that paradoxes or contradiction can’t happen, how on earth would I know? 4. The Omniscience Paradox My argument here seemed to be cut short in the last round, not sure what happened. Possibilities do not exist in deductive logic, conclusions are certain. If you know everything, you can foreknow anything through deductive logic, because you know how everything will act. If you knew everything would be disordered. But it is possible you already know the future when your omniscient because the future exists as a thing so logic wouldn’t be necessary. =\ I’m just starting to loose understanding in what your trying to say here. =\ I’ll be honest, I don’t really know. There’s a bunch of possible explanations, maybe he knows everything because he created all things, or maybe he know everything because he’s omnipresent (everywhere at all times at once), or maybe he knows everything by some unknown mechanism. I say logic cause I don’t believe in the future, so I don’t think knowledge is derived from the future (it’s not a thing cause it doesn’t exist, so an omniscient being wouldn’t be required to know it) but by the present. But hey who knows. I have mixed views on the a-theory and b-theory of time. 5. Miracles What do you mean burden of proof here? I’ve already provided proof, It was done under argument for design and the fact that it was a personal cause. I don’t have to prove that miracles actually happen, I have provided proof that it is possible through creatorship. Also miracles being irrational is being bluntly biased to rationalism. Does it matter if miracles are irrational? Of course I’m not a rationalist, I sometimes use religious beliefs to investigate the validity of reason. I don’t assert that there is any rule of logic if there is not a rule giver, without a creator there is no reason to assume validity of any rule of logic (nor assume they actually exist). I may be logical and reasonable, but I’m certainly not rational. I favor a much broader intellect than rationalism as I find it silly to assume there is no God. 6 The Singularity You know, an all consuming singularity that happened 14 billion years ago is kind of like saying “there is a teapot in the center of the universe” to me. Even believing is kind of weird. If the universe exploded you’d expect the universe to be more uniformly distributed, but even you said that there are regions that are disordered. To me this is all just speculation about the past. Can you prove that it actually did happen? 7 The Grand Design Question The best explanation doesn’t need an explanation unto itself. This would lead to an infinite regress of explanations. If anyone simply disbelieves something because there isn’t an explanation to it, then there would be no point in believing in anything. If something made God I can’t imagine what, in my mind he probably wasn’t created, but exist out of metaphysical necessity like numbers. 8 Ancient Intelligence I don’t see how this is relevant, the supreme being may not even be a common ancestor or simply never evolved to begin with. Also this kind of reasoning assumes Darwinism. I’ve never seen anyone actually prove macroevolution, so I don’t see any reason to assume Darwinism. Response to notes 1. Why is that? God and energy aren’t the same, there is no reason to assume that energy can. If your going to assert that, then the BOP is on you