flat tax

"Passing a tax rate with a constitutional amendment has nothing to do with whether or not a flat tax is the best tax system. " Yes I said it doesnt prove anything! It's just n add on that you can stop sidetracking on. "That is if the tax rate is 20%. Since we are not arguing a specific rate and we are arguing a flat tax in general, it could possibly be 100%." As I said, it would never be 100% until we get really dumb people in power. "No, I'm not and I never claimed to be. I am for states and local governments deciding their own forms of taxation as long as they don't tax income. The federal government would be funded by a tax on the states rather than a direct tax on the people." Well it seemed like you where sorry about that. Oh that has nothing to with debate sorry. Just kidding you can clarify but I cant. '"The difference between an income tax and a sales tax is, a sales tax is an optional tax and an income tax is not. You decide to pay a sales tax by buying goods." There is one flaw with that statement, everyone buys goods. Almost no one will not buy goods. So a sales tax is pretty much mandatory if your a normal person. "Is it not immoral for government to own money you worked for?" Well under your plan they still own it, so is it immoral for the states to own it or only if the feds own it. "I am not advocating for a national sales tax so it doesn't matter if it could raise enough money." already addressed this... In an article, "The naked stimulus: Why savings stimulate more than spending," on CNNMoney the author explains why savings are more beneficial to the economy then spending, "Over long periods, it's savings––not consumer spending––that finance the investments in mainframes, robots and other capital equipment that enhance productivity and drive economic growth. "President Obama keeps saying that only consumption counts," says Allan Meltzer, the distinguished economist at Carnegie Mellon. "It's foolish. Of course the money that people save doesn't go under the mattress. It goes to individuals to buy a house, or to businesses to build a plant."Let's examine how savings translate into investments, and hence into a crucial source of spending––for the future, the most crucial. When people save, they either purchase stocks or bonds, or they deposit the cash in the banking system. When they buy newly-issued securities, those savers provide companies with the cash to purchase equipment, or buy factories and call centers via acquisitions. When they buy CDs or deposit money in savings accounts, the bank typically lends that money either to corporate customers that spend it to expand, or to the government by purchasing treasuries––and once again, the funds are quickly spent."[11] "E. Burnum. The Federal law trumps state laws. So they can intervene whenever they want to. It's in our constitution." "First of all, I was not debating this point. I was just pointing to the fact that most of the corruption in government comes at the federal level but if corruption does come about in state government, it is much easier to correct than at the federal level. Since pro brought this up, I will debate it. Pro is referring to article 6 of the constitution, "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."[12] This clearly says that the federal government only has power over the states on matters delegated to the federal government by the constitution. The tenth amendment, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,"[13] gives the states the right to the powers not delegated to the federal government so in some cases the federal government can trump state law but not in the case of tax rates." Saving is better? It is better for the individual because you have more money. But not to the economy. Saving is better to the economy makes no sense. The more goods are bought=more money made=bigger economy=better economy-everyone happy. It's that simple. Savings can cause a double dip recession. http://www.telegraph.co.uk... . I'm not against saving, but to much saving is bad in the long run. And Keynesian economics proves my theory. It says you need a constant flow of enough money so a recession or depression can't start. http://www.wisegeek.com... Here are more reasons for a flat tax: http://christopher-pascale.suite101.com...