(Pro) Atheistic evolution vs Christian creationism (con)

Evolution is scientific because it meets the following three criteria. Evolution can be falsified, tested, and observed. ""With respect to the fossil record, evolutionary hypotheses are routinely tested as new fossil data are collected and matching that data against hypotheses about evolutionary relationships." [3] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ “The fossil record, however, is quite incomplete... ...Important links in the fossil record also remain unaccounted for, such as the ancient last common ancestors connecting entire phyla. Research into the fossilization process continues to illuminate just how much of the record we're missing... ...So, taken on its own, the fossil record is considerably lacking in many areas...” [1]. How is the fossil record a test for evolution when we see such large gaps? A leap of faith is required to fill these gaps and believe that living things evolved from one type of animal to another. These gaps show how unique and distinct all types of animals are and that they have not evolved from one to the other.------------------------------------------------------------------------------"...Now in a slick feat of molecular maneuvering, a team of researchers has reorganized huge portions of one yeast species' chromosomes, rendering its chromosomal map identical to that of a closely related species, just as it was once, in the distant past. " [3]" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This slick feat of molecular maneuvering is not an example of evolution. Please refer to [2] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------"evolution can be observed via natural selection. [4]. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are no references to any scientific studies or facts in this article. What is claimed here is purely the writer's opinion. As for natural selection, species can change according to their environments, but limited in scope to their pre-existing genetic pool. Natural selection means selecting something from a pre-existing set, not changing it, it should have been called natural invention. Mutations have been used as “proof” for natural invention, but creatures that have mutated have all been worse off in nature. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Evolution can also be observed in the lab. The most notable is drug resistant pathogens becoming dominant via natural selection.[5] " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This is the same experiment in which an E. coli population produced the ability to utilize citrate under aerobic conditions, which it couldn't’t before. This was widely hailed as an example of ‘evolution’, but it actually involved a breakdown in regulation, which increased citrate­utilizing biochemistry that was already present in the bacteria" [3]------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Consequently any of the following would destroy the theory:If it could be shown that organisms with identical DNA have different genetic traits.If it could be shown that mutations do not occur.If it could be shown that when mutations do occur, they are not passed down through the generations....Therefore, I have proven that the theory of evolution passes three test of being scientific, can be falsified, observed, and tested. The same cannot be said of Creationism. We cannot observe nor test Creationism. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So in claiming that evolution is scientific as per your given definition, the assumption is made that what is being tested, observed and falsified IS in fact evolution, but my responses show that the outcomes of the observations and tests are not proof of evolution so it can not be scientific.------------------------------------------------------------------------------ """20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he [is] his money." [7]"“Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;” " [8]"" Jesus Christ cannot be God because he cannot be the source of all moral authority due to condoning slavery and beating of slaves. Therefore, I conclude that Christian Creationism is disproved. Thank you for your time and energy reading this debate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is a difficult topic indeed and I probably do not have the best answer. I believe slavery in biblical times were not the same as in more recent times in many respects. Thus we have to look at what slavery was like in biblical times before casting judgement on it. As per Leviticus 25:47-49:47, people sold themselves as slaves to avoid destitution (but they could redeem themselves as well). A slave could have a better life under the roof of his owner rather than dying of hunger, being executed for crimes committed etc.. Where does the Bible condone slavery? It defines rules against mistreatment of slaves (Exodus 21:26-27, Colossians 4:1) In contrast to what God commanded, other cultures at the time would do whatever they wished with their slaves as slaves were not seen as human beings. The bible mentions that they are human beings and God sees them as being perfectly equal to their masters (see below). How slaves were to be treated according to the Bible: The death sentence for kidnapping someone (human trafficking): Exodus 21:16 A slave who was harmed, shall be set free: Exodus 21:26-27 Do not harm a slave that has escaped or return him to his master but let him be: Deuteronomy 23:15-16 Treat a slave with respect and fairness, as we are all equal in the eyes of God, whether we are slaves or masters, man or woman or from any race: Ephesians 6:9, Colossians 3:11, Colossians 4:1, Galatians 3:28 A slave could be redeemed by his family or himself: Leviticus 25:47-49:47 Abraham's servant was part of his household and was in charge of all his belongings: Genesis 24:2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for the discussion so far. References: 1 http://science.howstuffworks.com... 2 http://creation.com... 3 https://creation.com...