Wearing no facial hair is not manly.

Response: 'I STATED MY REASON AT THE BEGINNING. I AM NOT SHOUTING. THIS IS MY EASIEST WAY FOR CLARITY.' You do not need to type all caps to emphasise your point on this debate, I can understand and read clearly what you are trying to state in this debate. But do understand that some people in the net find that typing in caps is offensive and means of shouting or yelling at them. "ATTEMPTED" IS A NEGATIVE COMMENT WITH NO SUBSTANCE AND IS RUDE. This is probably not rude, the word I have used is not denoting to insult and you can use the same word as much as I do to. In debates, it's clearly acceptable to use the word "attempted refutations of the opponent"- I am trying to counter-rebut your rebuttals just as someone would do in a debate. THEN YOU HAVE REFUTED YOUR WHOLE DEBATE AND WE ARE, ONLY, DISCUSSING STYLE. My opponent misunderstood what is the difference between what is contradictory and what is complementary, that statement I gave above is a complementation that manliness lies both in the inside and in the outside- it's a paradox anyways. Kindness and honesty of a person can lie both inside and outside of the person itself. BIG MAYBE AND, REALLY, NOT WORTH SAYING THAT *ALL* BEARDS MEAN X It's not worth much saying also that the heart is a pumping muscle of blood since people knew it's a politically-correct term to apply emotions and feelings to the heart anyway. Too, why bring up that 'the male biological parts are still there' saying when I said that having no beards is having an appearance of a woman? It's not worth much saying that because people can discern easily I am not referring to it as a literal meaning and applying a metaphorical understanding of the sense. NO. THAT IS A MODERN MISREPRESENTATION OF THE WORD 'RESPECT" AND BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE NOT LEARNED POLITENESS. RESPECT IS EARNED. POLITENESS IS GIVEN. If there is someone here "misrepresenting" respect, it's you mostly. Those who say that respect is earned are not understanding the true nature of respect, respect has been mainly in us and been in other people before we or them have done anything that worths our honour to them. Even I respect those people who aren't much deserving of earning respect at all. Respect ain't earned, it's a given gift for us. This is insulting to me since I am a young person and have learned what is "politeness" before. What do you mean young people can't know "politeness"? Of course they can and ignorance doesn't fit the bill for such excuses. By seeing examples, they have known politeness, let experience teach them as well as words. I DO NOT have TO REALIZE ANYTHING. EITHER YOU HAVE MADE YOUR POINT OR YOU HAVE NOT. THE ONLY POINT YOU MADE IN THE TWO SENTENCES, ABOVE, IS A STYLE-POINT I beg your pardon, but facial hairs are more than a "style" if you see more closely to it. It's a natural feature and a part of a man of what constitutes of a boy beginning the transition from childhood to adulthood. You should be proud of your natural body. YES. SO, YOUR WHOLE DEBATE POINT IS NOTHING BUT STYLE. Just as I said previously above, facial hairs are more than a style, it's a sign of our manliness as we begin the transition from a boy to a man- it's about adopting a new way of understanding things (understanding like an adult not a child) and maturing properly according to our age. I DID NOT MAKE A "STRAW MAN". I ASKED A QUESTION." "INNER-ANIMAL" IS, RATHER, A EUPHEMISM FOR "LESS-THAN CONTROLLED BEHAVIOR". SO, I ASKED RATHER THAN ASSUMED. "Inner animal" doesn't have to mean an unrestrained or leashed behaviour type, "inner animal" can mean courage, bravery, perseverance and standing up for your convictions. NOT FOR BEARDS I beg to differ, if you accept certain things that does prove "association is actuality", then what acceptable basis to exclude such beards? Aren't you being arbitrary of over picking and favouring other thing?. THE BEARD DOES NOT MAKE THE MAN. BEING BORN WITH MALE GENITALIA MAKES THE MAN. YOU'RE, STILL, DISCUSSING STYLE AND YOU AREN'T THE ONE WHO GIVES THE POINTS. No no no, this has nothing to do with the male genitalia whatsoever. You're confusing "attributes" with "gained traits" here. I am discussing more than just "style" and let me make clear of this, you agreed to participate on this debate if you abided by these rules as so am I. These rules were set up to make an orderly and constituted debate to avoid name-calling and offensive insults hurling at each other. This rule is not made for my self-serving reasons, but to conduct this debate properly and to apply it to myself and yours as well. NOPE. IT'S ALL STYLE. WE MIGHT AS WELL DISCUSS NECKTIE STYLES AS EXAMPLES OF MANLY NESS OR TOOL-BELT WEARING. Flaws in your comparison, beards aren't like those accessories you gave above, we're talking something that is in your body not something that is external and put it on your body. YOU AREN'T GIVING THE POINTS. YOU are DISCUSSING, VERY, OLD FASHIONED IDEAS ABOUT BEARDS. MOST MEN SHAVE IN THIS DAY AND AGE. SO, YES, MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT CARE TO JOIN YOU IN YOUR STYLE-CHOICES NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TELL THAT THEY AREN'T "REAL" MEN UNLESS THEY AGREE WITH YOU. I am enforcing the "rules" not "dictating" about it. I abide by these rules in this debate and you keep ignoring as if it is a light thing, debates can't happen unless rules are first established and agreed onto. Plus, who says I am dictating what they should do? I am making a case for and trying to appeal to reason why facial hairs are manly. Let me get this clear, there is no such thing as "new-fashioned" or "old-fashioned", all of those things are either based on already pre-existing ideas way ahead of them. There is nothing "new" or "old", even in ancient times like Greece or Rome or Egypt, most men don't shave at all. YOU ADDED IN THE BEARD-REMOVAL-FOR-MOURNING. THAT WAS NOT YOUR, ORIGINAL, POINT. I beg your pardon? I am giving instances of such practices that shaving and tearing off beards is a sign of casting aside honour and face to showcase explicit mourning and grief. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STUPID. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "WARMUP". THERE ARE NO MUSCLES IN YOUR "CORE". THERE ARE ORGANS AND FOOD. NO ONE SHOULD WEAR A SHOE WITH A NON-RECTANGLE FRONT AND A LIFTED HEEL. PEOPLE DO ALL SORTS OF STUPID THINGS. That's a silly objection, it's common-sense and it is clearly appropriate to use such terms even in our society today. I wear a shoe that has a roundish shape front, am I a stupid person? Do you do stupid things as well? So people who wear lifted heels are stupid? Is that what you are trying to imply? DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE TYPING AT A DEBATE SITE? May I ask you this, did you join debate.org to win debates and win your way or to take part into voicing and defending your beliefs and making a case for it and answering objections to your stance? YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN JUDGE THE INSIDE BY THE OUTSIDE. OK. SPOTTING A PSYCHOPATH SHOULD BE EASY FOR YOU THEN. Why is my opponent slow to understand my sayings? Does he or she not get it or is he or she just acting like that way to make himself or herself to look unreasonable, not me? Some psychopaths are not as "psychopaths"as you think, some psychopaths are smart at concealing their psychopathic behaviour and some demonstrate degrees of rationality in their thinking and perceptions. ALL STYLE. NOT THE MAN Tell me one reason why it is a style, and I will give you a thousand reasons why it isn't. It's just more than a style that's why, it's a signal torch what separates us from childhood to adulthood. (I don't need to tell you I am not being literalistic in here) ALL STYLE. NOT THE MAN Give me one reason why it is and I will give you a thousand why it isn't. YOUR USE OF THE WORD "FRIEND" IS NOT PART OF DEBATE So you do not appreciate that I treat my opponent with respect? Do you want to me deal harshly with you? Isn't civility a part in this debate? Isn't it a good thing to call even your enemy a "friend" of your own? Have you known the Golden Rule yet, sir/ma'am?