The homicdal gas chamber at Auschwitz are not gas chambers

It's been great so far. See, you say the blue stains are caused by the iron in the wall reacting with cyanide gas (and you are correct in saying this), but as I have shown, the bricks in the alleged homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz are the same type of bricks. However, because of some of the erratic quality of the bricks, some bricks do show more prussian blue staining than others, but at Krema 1, 2, and 3 with the same exact brick shows NO trace of blue staining anywhere. Majdanek had plenty of blue staining: [url]. http://img684.imageshack.us...[/url] According to Holocaust scholars, that room was used to murder Jews, so if Krema I at Auschwitz doesn't have blue staining because it was used to kill humans, then neither should Majdanek. I should also mention that more Zyklon-B was allegedly used at Auschwitz than Majdanek. There has to be blue staining on this wall . http://ml3167.k12.sd.us... in order for it to have been a homicidal gas chamber used to kill thousands. as I said, compare Majdanek (which allegedly had less gassings) to that wall and see the difference. Going back to U. S. execution gas chambers, in order for the victim to die fast, the victim (prisoner in this case) would have to inhale the cyanide deeply to make the death come quicker and easier. If the prisoner did not inhale deeply, then the suffering from the gas could last for more than 18 minutes. Even then, executions in U. S. gas chambers averaged 10 to 14 minutes. The thing with Zyklon-B is that it releases its HCN very slowly, about 10% in the first 10 minutes. According to alleged "eyewitnesses," death was achieved in mere minutes, so this would necessitate extremely high amounts of Zyklon-B which would result in high levels of cyanide residue in the alleged gas chamber. Now there were no contraptions to make Zyklon-B distributed faster all over the room, so it would have been even more minutes for the victims to die. "We must therefore assume that the minimum amount of Zyklon B to be introduced in these rooms would have been in the order of magnitude of ten times the amount normally used for delousing procedures, in order to reach a similar concentration already in the first 5 to 10 minutes of the execution even in the hindmost corner of that room. [39] This would have been the only way to make sure that all victims in such a room would have been killed in the first 10 minutes after the Zyklon B had started releasing its poison. " [1] Then you have the problem of ventilation. It takes up to 20 hours to ventilate a room after Zyklon-B use, yet "eyewitnesses" - even those such as Rudolf Hoess, said it took only 20-30 minutes (at the most) to clear out the room of the people and gas. To make matters worse, there would have been lots of small spaces inside the pile of corposes filled with HCN gas, thus making the ventilation procedure even more difficult. Not to mention the corpses falling all over the Zyklon-B pellets. There would still be lots of HCN in theme even after hours of ventilation. Pro says all the gas chambers were made of brick, and provides one picture of some gas chamber. However, all the large gas chambers at Auschwitz were destroyed by the Germans at the end of the war. Well, not really. Below is the underside of the alleged "gas chamber" ceiling of Krema II, that has no blue staining, no alleged openings or holes for Zyklon-B insertion, therefore no AUschwitz gassings. Remember, the standard storyline says that 2000 Jews per batch were gassed on a non-stop basis, about 20 minutes per batch according to some tales, four minutes as alleged by an 'eyewitness'. See this photo: . http://www.air-photo.com... " The vent-less morgue roof looks exactly the same as it did in 1943, although it collapsed from the force of an explosion detonated by the Soviet Army between January 27 and February 18, 1945. Inspection at the locations of marks on the 1944 air photos showed no cement patches of previous holes, as any patches would have been visible along the straight line impressions left from the original 1943 cement forms. In 1944 this was what the inside of the ventless morgue roof looked like, before being tilted and partially collapsed from the winter 1945 explosion. " [2] HCN takes hours to outgas from its carrier material - Zyklon-B, hence when the NAzis opened the "gas chamber" doors after mere minutes, the contuining outgassing process would have released HCN gas onto the site as a whole, killing everything in its path (see above for ventilation problems). Then you have to believe that 2,000 dead Jews were lifted to the crematorium above via a miniscule 4' x 9' elevator before the alleged next batch of 2000 entered. All that done in mere minutes. Those magical Germans were truly something. The IFR samples "unequivocally show that the cyanide compounds occur in all the facilities that, according to the source data, were in contact with them. You mentioned the Block 11 cellar earlier, and that it averaged 14 parts per billion (according to the source). This though is several times lower than that which they found for Krema I, which averaged 70 parts per billion. (Your link: . http://www.holocaust-history.org...) What Zimmerman doesn't tell his readers is that other investigations (but not the Krakow one) have found 0.1-0.5% cyanide in the delousing chamber walls. Basically this means that the levels Zimmerman is claiming to be proof of homicidal gassings, are around 1 MILLION times lower concentration than the ones in the delousing chambers. he IFR did not respond directly to Rudolf, but many other experts did. "Leuchter and Rudolf report a detection limit of about 1 mg/kg and in fact dispute the reliability of some of their own measurements showing cyanide concentrations above that. Recall that the bulk of the cyanides that they detected were in a form similar to Prussian blue. The IFFR used a much more sensitive method. Their sensitivity was 3-4µg/kg, i. e. , 300 times more sensitive. "[3] However, the method used by Rudolf and that of the IFR have the SAME accuracy, so that Dr. Green's claim which is central to his whole argument is entirely false. The IFR based their method on Joseph Epstein's 1947 paper "Estimation of Microquantities of Cyanide" method. Rudolf used the more modern DIN protocol - so how is a 1947 method 300 times superior and accurate than a modern, German method? THat is what Green is implying. Only since 1980 have chemists been able to measure parts per billion; before that, you wouldn't be able to find a chemist to measure anything much below one part per million. I won't be able to respond about Green in full detail, so I will go on with your points: I do not understand the point about Treblinka. There have been no mass graves found at Treblinka. If so, why were no traces found in the living quarters, which were routinely fumigated? There was: 3. Controls (ie sampled from barracks, wash rooms, etc. ): 1.7 ± 1.3 (n=11) ppm[4] Pro says that some plaques show changed numbers of claimed victims. The numbers are subject to historical research. One important event, for example, was the opening up of the Russian archives c. 1992. The numbers are irrelevant to our debate. The numbers are very relevant, especially since Hoess said 3 million. How come the official number of dead Jews did not go from 6 million to 3.5 million after Auschwitz as winded down? Sounds like the "6 million" figure is more figurative than literal. I am out of charcters, so this is all Ic an type. Debate. org HAS to really let us use unlimited characters. 1. . http://www.vho.org... 2. . http://www.air-photo.com... 3. . http://www.holocaust-history.org... 4. . http://www.codoh.com...