Infidel tournament: Resolved, welfare should be abolished

I am on my phone again :( this will suck. R1: money is a rightWell I don't see anything about this in the consitution. And many people pay no taxes, so of welfare is a "right" then basically you are entitled to my money. Luckily that is not the case, you have no right to other peoples money. (1) Spending if other peoples money leads to many problems and is a violation of property rights. (2) so in all technicalities you have no right to other peoples money. Also having no money does not violate rights. Poor people still vote, still political freedoms. They get tax returns, economic facilities. Etc. poor people still have rights. R2: poverty rates Now let me privide my own graphs. A phone does not do graphs so I have to do links: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com... (3) Now it only goes to actual 2008 spending. But we see a constant increase. If welfare worked we would see more spending would lower poverty rates. Didn't work: http://www.census.gov... (4) On page 16 I believe it has the poverty rates, it stays similar seems like it increases despite the welfare spending. Also since welfare was started, poverty has not decreased. (5) since welfare was passed average incomes have slightly declined. (5) Also dependency increased. (5) R3: welfare reduces crime False. Lifetime access to welfare is one reason we have a crime problem. (6) Areas with more single parents tend to have higher crime rates, welfare increases the amount of single parents, thus raising crime. (6) (7) Also we'd lock births increase crime. (6) (8) Also welfare is linked to more unmarried fathers. (6) and unmarried fathers are more likely to do drugs and other crimes. (6) (9) Welfare increases all of these factors that increase crime. How does it logically lower crime? Furthermore welfare areas have fewer role models that leads to increases in crime. (6) (10) Defense of arguments: RC1: cost The new Obama budget of 2011 requests welfare costs hit 900 billion. (11) Currently welfare spending costs nearly 1 trillion. (11) Welfare is expected to cost slightly over 10 trillion in the next 10 years. (11) (12) Welfare in 2011 will be 13% of federal spending. (13) in 2010 welfare spending almost hit 900 billion. (14) Welfare is costly. RC2: Constitution This was only aimed at federal welfare, not state. We argue both here, but this one argument was focused federally FYI. "McCulloch v. Maryland defined this as to Congress may enact legislation within the powers" (15) now, nowhere does it say in the constitution that social programs are in congresses power. "Until the New Deal era, a general acknowledgement that individual social welfare, more specifically the use of public monies for the purpose of charity by the national government, was unconstitutional on the national level prevailed in government." (15) Now I see no new amendment saying we have a right to welfare, so technically it still = unconstitutional. Now we're talking: "[Congressional jurisdiction of power] is limited to certain enumerated objects, which concern all the members of the republic, but which are not to be attained by the separate provisions of any." - James Madison, Federalist 14 (15) No provisions attained by ANY. See first rebbuttal. Welfare is you give money to you. Read above it is prohibited. RC3: immorality I see nothing about Donald trump... In 2007 38% paid/owed no taxes, recently that number hit 47%. Yep, 47% pay no taxes. (16) Also not your fault, your politicusa source link is broken. Another estimate says 46% pay no taxes. (17) Now who pays no taxes? Half of the people paying no taxes are a couple with 2 children making less then 24k$ a year. (17) This estimate says those making 25k or less a year are 76% of the people who make no taxes. (18) only 1,400 people who make over 200k pay no taxes. (18) do its not the rich (usually) that pay no income tax. Now why is this immoral? Because 53% of America pays for all of their work, and well that's immoral. "[The] social point of view . . . cannot tolerate the notion of rights, for such notion rests on individualism. We are born under a load of obligations of every kind, to our predecessors, to our successors, to our contemporaries. After our birth these obligations increase or accumulate, for it is some time before we can return any service. . . . This [to live for others], the definitive formula of human morality, gives a direct sanction exclusively to our instincts of benevolence, the common source of happiness and duty. [Man must serve] humanity, whose we are entirely." (19) quote by Auguste Comete Welfare=immoral RC4: Alternatives Private charities can help lower poverty. (20) Also many charities educate give etc. this one does. (21) Seriously education is power, if charities make schooling programs then poverty would be healed. As 21 says some already do. (low on room gonna shorten) RC5: Corruption 24% of LA welfare requests contained some type of fraud. (22) but in the UK 1% commuted fraud. (sorry for the other country stat) (22) 2.45 billion dollars where overpayments in 2001. (23) probably higher now. There is a problem. No welfare vote pro I need less sources; http://lewwaters.wordpress.com... (1) http://www.lewrockwell.com... (2) http://www.usgovernmentspending.com... (3) http://www.census.gov... (4) http://www.cato.org... (5) http://www.cato.org... (6) Barbara Dafoe Whitehead, "Dan Quayle Was Right, Atlantic Monthly, April 1993. (7) http://pda.physorg.com... (8) Robert Lerman, "Unwed Fathers: Who Are They?" The American Enterprise, September/October 1993. .(9) Wright, Green, and Warren. (10) http://www.heritage.org... (11) http://www.heritage.org... (12) http://www.usgovernmentspending.com... (13) http://www.forbes.com... (14) http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com... (15) http://www.nytimes.com... (16) http://www.forbes.com... (17) http://www.usatoday.com... (18) http://www.thefreemanonline.org... (19) http://world-poverty.org... (20) http://amitabhasociety.org... (21) http://spritzophrenia.wordpress.com... (22) http://waysandmeans.house.gov... (23)