December Tournament Round 2: Jews are going to heaven.

The resolution "Jews are going to heaven" does not specify why they go to heaven. That is up for debate. Here are the verses you used: John 8:24 "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."If you look at the context of the verse, you will see that Jesus is talking to the Pharisees, who are notorious for hypocrisy. They would often preach but not believe what they are preaching. Jesus is telling them specifically, not non-Christians in general, that they have two choices; they can either continue to preach but not have good works, or they can believe in him and have good works. The latter would get them to heaven. This same situation would not apply to a Jew who was not like the Pharisees. Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." This verse states that faith can save you, but it does not say that you need faith to be saved. John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." This verse says nothing about believing in Jesus, it could be referring to following his teachings by having good works. Ephesians 2:8-9"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." I looked at this one, and for a moment I thought I had lost; but look more closely at the phrasing. It begins with, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves," meaning that faith saves you; you don't save yourself. It then says, "It is the gift of God: not of works," meaning that works do not earn salvation by themselves; God will save you because he is merciful. If you read the rest of the passage, it talks a lot about God's mercy, so you can infer that this verse is referring to God's mercy. You can conclude from this verse that God saves people because of their faith and/or good works. John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." This one, it turns out, is a misquote. The verse actually says, "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him." This means that if you have faith, you will be saved, but if you don't have good works, you will not be saved. It does not say that if you don't have faith, you will not be saved. Of course, I have to prove that my quotation is more accurate than yours. I looked at your profile and I saw that you are a Baptist, which means that your denomination of Christianity formed during the Reformation. I am using the Catholic Bible, which is the original version. Baptists and other Protestant Christians left out several books and chapters and changed some verses. http://www.cathtruth.com... Galatians 2:16 "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." This verse talks about justification. I don't see how that has anything to do with going to heaven. Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."This is an incomplete verse. It uses the words "neither" and "other" without any hint as to what it is referring to. Here are the verses I used: Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." You said that their "wonderful works" weren't enough to obtain salvation. The word "wonderful" as used in this passage was most likely not meant as "extremely good"; it was used to be synonomous with "astonishing". Prophesying and driving out demons are done for attention and praise when not done for a good reason. Wonderful works would have to fit in with those two or the passage would not make sense. Jesus is saying here that pretending to do good works will not save you. James 2:14 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?" You said this verse means that when someone says he has faith, but does not show it, he does not actually have faith. However, it asks, "Can faith save him?" which means that he has faith, but it is not enough. Romans 2:6-7 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life." You say here that non-Christians will not obtain forgiveness. I have already disproven all your arguments to support that claim. It clearly says that every man, not just Christians, will be judged according to their deeds. Since many Jews have good deeds, Jews are going to heaven. Do not make any new arguments in this round. Construct your rebuttals, then prepare for conclusions.