The Roman Catholic Church v. Baptist

I appreciate my opponents time and thank him! I appreciate my opponent's busy schedule. To make this debate more beneficial I shall drop all my contentions to Three keys points. Contention I - Salvation A. Exclusion from Salvation/Need Catholic Church/Works :What's the point of having faith if your salvation is guaranteed no matter what?: Your salvation is not guaranteed unless you believe and have faith. Salvation is for the repentant man to Christ, any and all, no matter what Church or doctrine. KJV-R (Webster) Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. :How can you turn away if salvation is guaranteed?: Many shall lose faith and turn into the flesh. But anyone who called upon the name of Lord shall receive salvation. The works show through a saved man not the works for salvation. I also know that the Lord and the Holy Ghost does not work in you if you never produce good works. That is a true hint of non-salvation. KJV-R (Webster) Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. James 1:12: :This clearly shows that if you don't remain true, salvation is not guaranteed. I can provide more passages if needed, but I've already used too many characters on this one contention: My opponent is confused. A man who has been saved and accepted Jesus Christ will always have Jesus Christ. Thier deeds may become dry and thier ways may become darker but they never lose Jesus. Once you are saved you are always saved. I dare my opponent to show that saved people will lose it? I agree with my opponent to a degree because Christ will work through you and your deeds will show. These works are not nessasary to be intentional because the Holy Ghost influences you. Though works for salvation is personnal planning for these works and they are not genuine. The works come from the Holy Ghost. KJV-R (Webster) 1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. Contention III - Doctrine not following scripture C. Idolatry :I challenge my opponent to provide a more reliable source than a singular quote from Pope Pius IX. A general defense of the Catholic tradition of praying to saints will be provided.: "Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective." (NIV) First in this passage we see it says pray to each other not to just Popes and Preist! I agree we should all prayer for one another daily. But no man need to confess his sin to another nor need another to intercede between him and Jesus. This also includes praying to Saints and Mary! They are not anyway to salvation only Christ Jesus is. Only Jesus and the Holy Ghost can intercede and answer your prayers. KJV-R (Webster) John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. KJV-R (Webster) Ephesians 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; 20 Giving thanks always for all things to God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; KJV-R (Webster) James 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. KJV-R (Webster) Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Contention III - Contradictions A. Infallibility of Church and Pope :I never thought it possible that someone could believe the Bible infallible yet reject the possibility of the Pope being infallible (at least in theory). As people, the Pope and members of the Church are capable of sinning/failing. When it comes to official dogmatic teachings, however, they are guided by the Holy Spirit to be infallible.: KJV-R (Webster) 2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. The doctrine of the "infallible interpreter" implies that God did not make Himself clear. "For the prophet and the priest are defiled: and in my house I have found their wickedness, saith the Lord." (Jer. 23:11). Conclusion: I think I have resolved that the Roman Catholic Teaching do not adhere to Jesus Christ's teachings. I thank my opponent and send it back to him! http://www.bible.ca... http://deeptruths.com... basics/salvation.html http://www.bible.ca... http://www.biblestudymanuals.net...