I'm Pro Gun: Change my Mind

Claim: Compare the number of murders in countries which allow guns to countries which dont allow guns? The murder rate is so little! Take singapore as an example: As a singaporean,I hardly read any articles of murders in the past years. Versus me watching the news with my grandparents a few months ago and finding out about the nightclub situations and similar shootouts like these. Rebuttal: Singapore's murder rate has always been low. You shouldn't compare other countries murder rates, as every country is different. You should instead compare the rates before and after gun bans. I have already cited those statistics. Claim: You certainly havent heard of Singapore. We dont allow guns which results into less murders or no murders at all. Unless you"re talking guns like laser tag so that results into me coming back from the dead many MANY times. If you"re talking guns like laser tag guns then yes thats allowed and that"ll be a very high murder rate committed by mostly kids and teenagers. Rebuttal: Show me statistics before and after the gun ban in Singapore, then you can make a conclusion about the result and whether it affected the murder rate. Plus, I was talking about America, not singapore, a very small country. America has tried gun control multiple times in cities and it has not been efective. We banned assault weapons from 1994-2004. Not effective. Claim: This is why guns shouldnt be allowed at ALL to prevent events like these to happen and to conduct background checks as what you mentioned later in your statement which has its flaws which I would mention in just a minute. People who illegally get firearms go to those who have firearms which they get from those who have firearms. Source:https://www.quora.com...... which is why I say ban guns Rebuttal: America has more than 330 million guns. If we ban them, several will go into the black market, were they can be used illegally. It would be almost impossible to round all of them up because of the quantity. People will also use knives, vehicles, and other weapons if they can't get a gun. People will not be able to protect themselves from those threats, either. On background checks, I was saying feds should have seen many red flags, like the 39 instances the parkland shooter should have warranted police action. Claim: "in places guns were banned, the overall murder rate did not go down; Proving that a gun ban would not be effective." https://www.indexmundi.com...... I know this is till 2015 but if there is a link, you can see the homicide rate decreasing or remaining the same. Rebuttal: Show me when guns were banned and the effect it had on singapore. This is also not an effective model for the U.S., because we have the most guns in the world. Claim: Couldnt find a link but couldnt find a link to what you said as well. Rebuttal: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com... I apologize as the bibli. in my 1st argument did not provide the specific link to the actual page when i copied and pasted. Claim: "93% of gun crime is when guns are obtained illegally." And the only way to get a firearm is getting it from someone who has a firearm. Hence ban guns. Rebuttal: Or the black market and they could also use literally other object. Claim: "...which con has not adressed at all." Ironic isnt it? I showed you links of the death count of people in various years and you didnt do a rebuttal but still blame me that I didnt do a rebuttal on the second ammendment of constituiton. Rebuttal: Like I said, gun bans do not statisticly reduce murders. Claim: "...being necessary to the security of a free State..." But now are guns being used to the security of a free state or threatening the security of a free state with all this gun violence going around? I have no issues on firearms being used on a tyrannical government just so you know. But the fact is that it also allows people of a free state to use it for self defence purposes not offensive. You are pro gun,suggest a way to rid of offensive uses of firearms. Rebuttal: Only criminals harm people with guns. Like I said, conceal carry holders committ cimes 14% less than police officers. That says something about how law-abiding they are and how they actually want to defend themselves, not kill people like dumb people do. Claim: I have no issues on firearms being used on a tyrannical government just so you know. Rebuttal: I would like to highlight this because of simple logic. Why would you give the government your self-defense rights and firearms when they are the exact ones guns were designed to protect against? Claim: You are pro gun,suggest a way to rid of offensive uses of firearms. There is no way to completely get rid of gun violence. People will still find a way to get a gun illegally. However, I am in favor of stricter background checks and arming teachers with guns so they can protect the students. Claim: "Evil people choose to misuse the tool." Which is why guns should be banned to prevent "evil people"(so to speak) to misuse it." Rebuttal: If guns are banned, they can get guns off the black market, or use knives, vehicles, or their bare fists to kill you, without you having any protection because guns are banned. Claim: Also ladies and gentlemen notice that my opponent didnt counterargue my first argument? Which brings me to question if my opponent does have a counterargument to the argument itself. rebuttal: I believe I have already adressed this earlier when you stated "Also ladies and gentlemen notice that my opponent didnt counterargue my first argument? Which brings me to question if my opponent does have a counterargument to the argument itself." This is because I have already said multiple times gun bans do not statisticly reduce murders in big countries, cities in america, and america that has done it to an extent from 1994-2004 which also did nothing to prevent murders. Thankyou.