Intellectual Differences Exist Between Races

Con, you seem to be making the false assumption that I am specifically speaking of African Americans, I am actually speaking of all Africans. I am speaking of all Jews. I am speaking of all Asians. This is about intellectual differences between races, worldwide.Defining IntelligenceAs for my definition of intelligence, as I have already said, it is an incredibly complicated thing to describe. I would say that the dictionary definition "the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills" fairly accurately represents it. And I believe that IQ tests, and other standardized tests for that matter, while unable to capture a person"s intelligence completely, are accurate measures, regardless. To prove this, much of my argument will consist of the correlation of IQ and traits, that I believe both of us can agree, are desirable " success, crime, education, etc.All in all, I believe that while discrimination and socio economic status are very influential in a person achieving all that I have just mentioned, innate intelligence is still a very important genetic component that is often overlooked.Argument 1: Jewish vs Blacks; Nobel PrizeI do apologize for my error on that statistic. But you similarly made an error, of those 15, only 4 are African American1. The others are from different countries. Regardless, the reason I said 1 was because only 1 of those 15 won a prize in something other than Literature and Peace, I accidently failed to mention that. I left out the other 14 because Lit and Peace are both very subjective to the cultural perceptions at the time. I will post citations for the Jews responsible in these fields.As for the overall argument of the validity of using this information as being reflective of intelligence by race, it is incredibly relevant. This is not a "random sample of 50 people", this is a very large sample size of 793 of some of the most intelligent people who have lived in the past century. The fact that blacks are completely unrepresented in this intellectual elite speaks volumes. Look at the black and white IQ distributions, as the chart would suggest, the chance of a black having an IQ above 130 is extremely improbable (Bell Curve, 279), and several sources I have read suggest that the IQ of a Nobel laureate is averaged to be 1402(although it is a very poorly measured and graphed statistic as far as I know). I use this argument as it proves that blacks are simply non-existent in the intellectual elite.Argument 2: Stability of Countries By Racial MajorityI used the word "hospitable" quite loosely. I use this argument, because Asians, who are ranked well over a standard deviation higher on IQ tests only stopped facing severe discrimination quite recently. China suffered some of its darkest days because of the Opium Wars, the Sino-Japanese Wars, the Cultural Revolution, etc, and now, with little aid from the west, has risen to become the world"s largest economy3. Japan has revolutionized robotics4, and one of the best public transit systems in the world, (along with South Korea)5. Furthermore, Japan, Korea, and Hong Kong are all listed in the top 30 GDP per capita, whereas no African countries are, in fact, 24 of the 30 lowest GDPs per capita are in Africa, including all 10 of the bottom 10.6 Managing a successful economy and well-designed country absolutely requires intelligence, and I don"t believe any citation is needed to make that claim. I also believe this adequately counters your animal argument.Argument 3: Jews and Asians were very discriminated againstI won"t spend much time on this one, but remember what I said about China, and don"t forget Japan and the west"s involvement in World War II. Also, the Jews have been historically discriminated against and persecuted for their beliefs for the past 2000 years. Remember, they supposedly killed Jesus. The Jews and Asians have been very heavily discriminated in both America and Worldwide, yet they have now put themselves in positions of great power, while Africans continue to flounder. Argument 4: Pre-Contact AfricaAs a matter of fact, I consider this to be my trump card. A simple analysis of ancient, pre-contact Asia, Europe, and Africa show an overwhelming disparity in technological achievements, science, philosophy, etc.Due to the almost absolute geographical separation provided by the Sahara desert, the Africans for most of history were unable to receive any of the technological developments discovered in Europe and Asia. For most of these sub-saharan African countries, we know very little about their history prior to 800AD, predominantly due to the fact that no Sub-Saharan African nation created a written language, something achieved by the Ancient Europeans and the Ancient Chinese in 2000BC! In fact, written languages weren"t even created in Africa until the 1900s, when white people showed them how. The only ancient writing systems in Africa are in northern Africa, and are based off of Egyptian and Arabic.7Another incredibly important and revolutionizing invention that Africans failed to create was the wheel and axle. This was possibly discovered independently by both the Chinese and the Europeans (however there is some debate as to whether or not it was shared between the two). The Xia Dynasty had horse drawn war chariots prior to 1600BC.8,9The African"s also failed to create a single known ancient philosopher or scientist (at least I can"t find any), while one could name dozens from 3000 years ago in China, Europe, and the Middle East.Anyhow, there are many more examples I can give regarding pre-contact Africa, but I will stop with those. This is incredibly important, because it shows that BEFORE oppression was even possible (they had never had sufficient contact), Africans were still intellectually behind Asians and whites by miles.Contention 1: Socioeconomic Status and OppressionAssuming you have the Bell Curve on you as I have mentioned would be wise, Murray compiled many studies that DO in fact isolate socioeconomic status and race, and the conclusions remain the same (pg. 288). As should be obvious, people with low IQs and intelligence will typically have poor socioeconomic status, and people with high IQs and intelligence will typically have very good socioeconomic status (a trend that is perfectly preserved when considering average IQ by race and average income by race). Of scholars whose specialty"s gives them reason to have an opinion on this issue, 45% believe genetics and environmental issues combined effect intelligence and IQ differences between races. (pg. 295) This includes people like the founder of DNA, James Watson.As for discrimination, when controlling for IQ, blacks are more likely to succeed than whites (pg. 320, 322, 323). For readers, these show that blacks are more likely to get a degree, have a high IQ job, and have similar wages to white people of the same IQ.When controlling for a mother of average age and an IQ of 100, the child only has a 14% chance of being in poverty, yet 54% of black children nationally are in poverty (335).Bottom line, as these many statistics should show, when socioeconomic status is controlled, blacks still have lower IQ"s than whites on average. And when IQ is controlled, blacks actually tend to be better off on average than whites. Therefore the reason such a vast majority of blacks on the planet are in poverty "must- have a genetic and intellectual component.Closing Argument:As human beings are animals, everything that makes us up must have some sort of genetic component. It seems readily acceptable to say that we inherited our parents" physical characteristics, or our parents sense of humor. Its acceptable to accept the fact that diseases and illnesses are inheritable, that allergies are inheritable. It is even acceptable to say that physical ability is inherited. Yet at the same time, many of these genetic components can be cultured and changed based on a person"s environment and socioeconomic status. I would be surprised to learn if Con believed that intelligence was NOT inherited from a person"s parents. (However, if that is the case, next argument, I would be more than happy to develop this further). If he does accept that proposition, then why would intelligence not apply to race as well? A black couple who each have genetic immunity to malaria possess the risk of having a child with sickle-cell anemia. It just so happens that black people overwhelming possess this genetic characteristic (due to evolution selecting it because of high risks of malaria), and as a result, blacks are much more prone to be born with sickle cell anemia.10 I could provide countless examples of athlete families, where players have brothers, parents, sisters who are professional athletes. Yet at the same time, blacks as a race are overwhelmingly over represented in the NFL, NBA, long distance running, sprinting, etc. I could continue to show examples of traits that are passed down from father to son, and are also racial. Why would intelligence be immune to this effect? The races were isolated for 100,000 years after all, its almost as if each race is one giant extended family, they all have similar characteristics, intelligence included.Will post links in comments.