Eight reasons christianity is false

Well zap zang zowie, Sorry for being so naive as to try to introduce myself to my opponent. But I'll give you one more chance to behave yourself. ("WRONG! A mathematical equation can and is proven. ") No, That is evidence for your perception of 2 plus your perception of 2 coming about to your perception of 4. Even if it is a fact, It is not a universal truth, As those facts (numbers) mean totally different things when applied to different formulas. I didn't say nothing comes from nothing, Which really is an argument that nothing comes of nothing IN THE NATURAL WORLD, 0 = 0, Therefore everything that is had to come from the power of itself or a power sustaining it. What is necessary to understand is that it take omnipotence to bring something out of nothing because everything is the exact opposite of nothing. I would like to see Mr. Hawking's mathematical equation you refer to: First, I suspect it has to do with a mathematical explanation for the balance of time matter and energy along a timeline which includes nothing, Like Einstein's TOR. Secondly, Just because something can come from nothing isn't "proof" that it did so on it's own. Third, Human science is fallible: The Theory of Relativity has been adjusted several times to fit new evidence about the universe. God cannot be fully proved by anyone according to systems of scientific analysis and discovery (Deut. 6:16). This is partly because He also exists outside of and beyond those realms. If God was a mere scientific object, How could He be beautiful or loving? Those things can only be proved with wisdom, Not a microscope. Because atheism sees things through a PURELY materialistic lens, It is stuck with the same accusation it throws at theism: It cannot prove anything. ("Woah there cowbore, Don't include me. . . ") I think you mistook my syntax a little. I didn't mean to say you and billions of others believe in God, I was only trying to frame the debate to include common facts and circumstances which need considering. (". . . Your unproven terrorist god who hates children, Is a homocidal maniac. . . Etc") For someone who doesn't believe in God, You sure do ascribe a lot of the actions and feelings of Human beings to Him. ("For that, You would have to have faith. . . Like asking the brain to become a brand new knife") Yes. It's something like that, And that's probably the biggest stumbling block for atheists in my experience. You have to be willing to look in a new direction or from different perspectives to discern what it is. This has been one of my main points. Let me use another math analogy to make some sense: You wouldn't presume to know an entire shape just by knowing part of its edge or one of its coordinates on a plane, Would you? To understand the shape, You need more than one coordinate, The number of dimensions, And the curves/edges. The way to understand these aspects is to study the other aspects. Then you can formulate and know which coordinates are true/false. In response to the first quote of Mr. Dillahunty, I would ask what truth is to him, And I would also ask why we don't know everything about the natural universe if science and reason are the In response to the second, I offer evidence of miracles and exorcisms to point to God. Faith may be part of my own reason for behaving religiously, But it is not the only reason. To respond to Mr. Dawkins, I've already watched him debate and one of his colleagues debate. I already know his opinion is militantly atheist. 1. There is evidence that prayer can help. Go visit Lourdes. Ask a few surgeons for their personal opinion. Watch the apparition at Fatima, Where thousands of people showed up just to laugh at the notion of the "silly Christians" who foretold the "sun dancing" (https://www. Youtube. Com/watch? V=kxok8ZoPgFM). Explain the countless visions of Jesus and Mary (and oddly various saints) who appeared to other prayerful holy persons like St. Bridged and St. Elizabeth. Explain the stigmata of St. Francis that was purported to have a "sweet odor" or the bodies of dead saints which remain undecayed for decades before they are exhumed. Whatever you can prove or disprove, Given personal events in my life, I cannot be persuaded to think God is not real. The Bible acknowledges that prayer doesn't always work the way we want it to (2 Cor. 12:9). The best way to pray is to pray for God's will above our own anyway. It's not our job to "get whatever we want" on Earth by saying magic words: The point of prayer is to communicate with God. That means praising, Obeying, Worshiping, Being penitent, And being thankful for what He does give. I think one of the biggest misperceptions around prayers not being answered is that there aren't many holy or sincere people left in the world. 2. I don't fully understand your counter. My argument is that God is Love and Truth and that His justice is perfect, Not that any of us want it. 3. (See 1 in this response). I tried to watch your video, But it was deadlinked or auto-corrected, Maybe give me the title? It sounds like some people were tricked on a Sunday. So? I know there's such a thing as optical illusions. I know people can be deceived in a crowd. Human understanding is fallible: That's why I don't worship science or Richard Dawkins, His prophet. 4. Christianity is not corrupt: People are. People misconstrue God's word by their actions and from their own wicked desires and sometimes as the direct intervention of God (Mark 4:12, And Paul's discourse in Romans over the place of the post-Messianic Jews). To address the scripture you gave me, I offer that "the Word of God" often refers in the Bible (prophetically in the O. T. ) to Christ Himself who is perfect because He never broke any commandment. In reference to the law of working on the Sabbath, Christ reveals two things: That God is the author and not the subject of the law, And that Human interpretation for malintent is not a true embodiment of the spirit of the law, Without which the law is dead. 5. I suggest you actually read the histories and texts of different religions before taking such broad strokes at them, Or quote someone who was obviously riled up at the time to make such generalizations. 6. The Bible does discuss many things, And it's ordered and cross-referencing. I've got a big, Fat Jerusalem Bible here if you want to take a look at it. But yes, People like to discard and add snippets to the Bible across history to justify their own opinions and make themselves feel good. That is not obedience to the truth, That is self-worship. 7. (same stuff as above) Man didn't do anything before his creation. God isn't just mankind's origin, But his purpose as well. I've offered some examples of evidence. . . Maybe ideas or flukes of nature, Maybe all wrong, But SOMETHING. All you've done so far is rant about how God can't exist because it doesn't make sense to you and how life is unfair etc. The best of that is to reference someone else's mathematical hypothesis of how the universe might exist from nothing in the universe with or without God, Taking nothing into account whatever is above the universe (Gen. 1:1 ". . . And the face of God was hovering above the spirit of the waters").