Biblical Debate: Abortion

Thanks Con for your swift response! C1: Abortion Involves a Fetus "A fetus is a innocent human being." “When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. --Exodus 21: 22-25 The law says that if a woman is hit by two quarreling men and has a miscarriage as a result, so if a man kills a women's fetus, he MUST PAY A FINE to the women's husband. That's the ONLY punishment. If you kill a pregnant women's fetus, you have to compensate her with money. So according to the Bible, a fetus is measured with a value of money, and is therefore is JUST A PIECE OF PROPERTY! So, if you kill the fetus, you pay a fine. If you kill the women, you are killed as well. We know that God isn't talking about the fetus in the second part of the passage, because a fetus does not have teeth. Consensus: A fetus can be aborted with no fine if the women decides so. A fetus terminated by a quarrel against the women's will is punishable by only a fine. Therefore, a fetus is NOT a human being, and the killing of a human person is different from a fetus. “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Hold on. In this passage, God is talking to Jeremiah, who was to be a prophet. Obviously, that is a highly limited amount of people, and does not apply to us. The passage says "I appointed you a prophet/ spokesman to the world." As a highly rare position, we cannot use this justification for other fetuses. C2: God Approved of Killing Fetuses Nearly 1/2 of all pregnancies end in spontaneous abortion. Since this is true, God is actually the largest abortionist of all. And God views this as okay, after all he just gets to see the "babies" back in Heaven faster! Biblical proof of God approving killing fetuses: "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the Lord at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the Lord's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man." -- Numbers 31:15-17 --------Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses. Another time God commands killing of fetuses: "O Lord, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk." -- Hosea 9:14 Consensus: God approved throughout times in the Bible the killing of fetuses, resulting in abortions. God approved abortions. C3: God doesn't think a Fetus = Human Person In Leviticus 27:6, a monetary value was placed on children, but only on children between the ages of a month and five years. No value was placed on a fetus. In Numbers 3:15, the census commanded only counted people a month or older, so a fetus would not be counted as a person. In Genesis 2:7, Adam had a human form, but only became a fully-alive human person after God breathes life into him. Consensus: God doesn't consider a fetus a person --- HE DOESN'T COUNT THEM IN A CENSUS, THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE! ...Conclusion: God has defined a fetus is not the same as a person, one way he did it was by making sure that fetuses were not counted as human people in the census'. Another time is when he only gives a price on a fetus if one is killed, and if a person killed another person, the murderer is punished with death. So, God only thinks a fetus is PROPERTY. He explicitly shows the A FETUS IS NOT A PERSON. God also naturally ends 1/2 of all pregnancies. If God was opposed to abortion, he would not do this. In multiple times throughout the Bible, God sends fetuses to death with their mothers. God does not consider it murder to kill a fetus, he had shown it numerous times and has done it himself. God finds it fine to see the fetuses in Heaven.