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people have as much right to switch race as they do to switch sex

I shall keep this logical and simple:People have change genders generally have either medical or mental reasons that help them.http://www.bilerico.com...They do this not just for the fun of it, because their whole life part of their body may actually be female or male. Some times they lack testosterone... There is no medical reason to change a race. Honestly if there was no racisim why would be need to change their color? so in a way change races just shows how racially divided we are!So why would you change color except if you hate your own race and choose not to be part of it, what kind of senseless act is that?
people have as much right to switch race as they do to switch sex

the woman in the news recently who said she was black even though she grew up white, got a lot of flak for it. yet, bruce jenner only got high marks for switching to female. to be sure, skin color is just skin, whereas sex is determiend by DNA. they might have even more of a right to switch race. im lookin to debate someone who thinks gender changing is okay, but not race changing
people have as much right to switch race as they do to switch sex

what do you mean "health issues"? I noted darker complected skin. plus this is only for some people, most who switch just feel it necessary for no health reason. you cited one example of someone who might have had racial issues, but not all who want to switch have racial issues. con posits an interesting point that gender is from birth, and race is cultural. I can only suspect that some people 'feel' a different color from birth, but i'm not sure. good point con.
people have as much right to switch race as they do to switch sex

no some people have health issues, change genders and their health issue is resolved. There are many cases of this like the evidence supported.what health issues are there for a skin color? And yes, the women who changed to black had racial issues, thus she becaome a presedent for the NAACP, and protested with many people who also claimed hate crimes despite lack of evidence.There will always be people like Jenner who make a scene, but they also have some sort of mental issue that has them identify with the other gender, this happens WITHOUT social interaction..Let me go futher on this point.Race is a social thing. Its a culteral hertidge what defines race is the actions, customs and behaviors of that race. Gender is something chosen at birth, however it also has natural predispositions such as homonal balances, attractions to a gender, and what not. It has been proven that most boys and girls have natural gender identities without social interactions. And that some naturally start to behave closer to the other gender. They also grow up to show that they might lack hormones. This is all without social interference. So no I cant go and become Asian tomorrow.
people have as much right to switch race as they do to switch sex

con says they sometimes lack testesterone. sometimes a white person may be more darkly complected than normal. doesn't that give them as much right as those who lack testosterone? and besides, most of the time such as with bruce jenner there isn't anything to do with problems with the sex. in this case there's just as much basis to change race as ther eis with sex. people dont just change race cause they hate their own. the woman in the news recently didn't have white. she might have loved blacks, but then anyone who switches genders loves that sex more, that's why they switch. if there's any racisim, there's jsut as much sexism. really, this has nothign to do with it. some people jsut identify one way or hte other more
Human Cloning

"what if this happens with Cloning, at first, only the rich can afford them, but after a while, it becomes so common, that tyrants or military dictators could just clone armies.. That would risk, Both civil and international safety." This assumes that the human cloning process can be done quickly, and without notice. However, it would take years for the cloned army to reach an age at which they could do anything besides be a bunch of schoolyard bullies. "In order to make clones you need to have a lot of women at your disposal, to either give the eggs or produce more and more basing on the demand." If the ova are to be extracted, then a single human female's body already contains numerous ova, so it wouldn't require many. Plus, if the clones are to be born naturally, couldn't this be accomplished just as easy through natural pregnancy? What difference does cloning make? "last of all, if one were to allow cloning, what would happen to the population crisis, that we, the 7. billion people in the world are suffering of today." Why would we be cloning humans just so that they exist? The best use (and only use, really) of human cloning would be to clone individual organs, which could then be used as replacements in the case of organ failure. Note that the cloning of a single organ is still human cloning, as found here: http://en.wikipedia.org... "having clones made, would be irresponsible and wrong.." Having back-up organs is wrong? Thank you for starting this debate; I, too, hope that this will be interesting.
Human Cloning

Back in History, cars was an object only the rich and the famous could have and afford, now a days, everyone has one. , what if this happens with Cloning, at first, only the rich can afford them, but after a while, it becomes so common, that tyrants or military dictators could just clone armies. . That would risk, Both civil and international safety. In order to make clones you need to have a lot of women at your disposal, to either give the eggs or produce more and more basing on the demand. last of all, if one were to allow cloning, what would happen to the population crisis, that we, the 7. billion people in the world are suffering of today. having clones made, would be irresponsible and wrong. .
Human Cloning

"this might be totally irrelevant, but do we know whats in Area 51? because it has been a long time it has been there and no one knows whats inside it, so if the government can hide something like that, why could they not hide something like a huge factory, no one goes in or our..." Couldn't they create an army of different people just as easily as an army of clones? An army is an army. "you state they would be arrested, but why are there so many countries in the world which use child soldiers.. why is it that they have not been arrested?" Obviously, a society with human cloning technology would be more advanced than Africa today. The political turmoil in Africa is the current problem. "the children in the video, although has nothing to do with human cloning have gone unnoticed for years and years and years!! and still no one arrested." However, we know that they are there. There have been attempts at stopping the use of child soldiers, which will hopefully one day succeed. "i did not mean to imply that it was a easy process, all i was stating was that if once again, technology advances, which most likely it will, people will be able to create Human clones with limited supervision needed." That means that a natural birth would also become much easier, which makes cloning irrelevant. "How ever, with natural births you have to supervise whether the mothers okay, whethers the baby going to be fine and whether she is going to live or not....." If the person running the whole thing is a tyrant, then the mothers wouldn't be supervised, even with a natural birth. The level of concern is not changed by the cloning aspect. "here is a passage from the article: For example, bioethicist Thomas Murray of the Hastings Center argues that 'it is absolutely inevitable that groups are going to try to clone a human being. But they are going to create a lot of dead and dying babies along the way.'" If we try to stick with organs, this wouldn't be a problem. "once again, you are taking you are sharing what YOU would do, you do not know what everyone would..." The general will to survive would lead the majority of the population to prefer a cloned heart to no heart. "i should thank you for accepting the debate..." So should I. Let's. Thank you for starting this enjoyable debate. In conclusion, the use of human cloning to create armies is really no different from a genetically diverse army, and the use of human cloning to create back-up organs is only positive, with only a risk of defection that is equal to the risk of defection in an ordinary heart. Vote PRO!!!
Human Cloning

They wouldn't go unnoticed for ten years. They would have to keep their army someplace, and they would be spotted, and arrested." this might be totally irrelevant, but do we know whats in Area 51? because it has been a long time it has been there and no one knows whats inside it, so if the government can hide something like that, why could they not hide something like a huge factory, no one goes in or our... you state they would be arrested, but why are there so many countries in the world which use child soldiers.. why is it that they have not been arrested? (please watch the video to understand) www.invisiblechildren.com the children in the video, although has nothing to do with human cloning have gone unnoticed for years and years and years!! and still no one arrested. Human cloning would require as many doctors as natural birth, if not more. Huge human breeding farms could be set up without cloning. You assume that cloning is a simple process, but it's not." i did not mean to imply that it was a easy process, all i was stating was that if once again, technology advances, which most likely it will, people will be able to create Human clones with limited supervision needed. How ever, with natural births you have to supervise whether the mothers okay, whethers the baby going to be fine and whether she is going to live or not..... Ethnicity is irrelevant." define Ethnicity: 1) enoting or deriving from or distinctive of the ways of living built up by a group of people 2)An ethnic group is a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage your statement is simply wrong.. "http://en.wikipedia.org...; here is a passage from the article: For example, bioethicist Thomas Murray of the Hastings Center argues that "it is absolutely inevitable that groups are going to try to clone a human being. But they are going to create a lot of dead and dying babies along the way." If my heart gives out, I can either die or get a replacement heart. I don't care if it is defective, which it probably isn't. The purpose of this back-up organ is for it to be used when my original heart is no longer functional." once again, you are taking you are sharing what YOU would do, you do not know what everyone would... i should thank you for accepting the debate... VOTE CON!!
Human Cloning

if research advances, don't you think that Humans would be able to clone humans at a specific age, that they would want the clone to come out off." No. If they could, it would require technology beyond human cloning. It would require the alteration of time, and the power to alter time in itself is dangerous, with an army clone or not. "if a huge Operation is Being held, don't you think world leaders or people with aces to this can wait a couple of years.. ( there is a thing out there called Child soldiers... at large numbers, they could be affective." They wouldn't go unnoticed for ten years. They would have to keep their army someplace, and they would be spotted, and arrested. "when a natural birth is given, it requires doctors, required staff and ETC, if we were to legalize cloning huge farms could be set up, with just cubicles of babies growing... at a huge number..." Human cloning would require as many doctors as natural birth, if not more. Huge human breeding farms could be set up without cloning. You assume that cloning is a simple process, but it's not. "The problem with cloning organs, is that you start to interfere with ethnic groups, as it is playing the role of 'god' if you put the hands of your life in the hands of a doctor.." Getting a replacement heart that matches your own DNA does not interfere with ethnic groups, and creating a heart with no mind is not "playing God." We put our life in the hands of doctors constantly. Human cloning doesn't change that. "fortunately not all ethnic followers are like that, but extremists are heard and are listened too.... " Ethnicity is irrelevant. "who says that the organ failure would be as good as a healthy normal heart? who says that along the way, it might just have a defect?" If my heart gives out, I can either die or get a replacement heart. I don't care if it is defective, which it probably isn't. The purpose of this back-up organ is for it to be used when my original heart is no longer functional. "Who knows... who knows, that is why I oppose Human Cloning, so we don't have to figure out whether a cloned organ works or not by seeing whether the man lives or dies" We'd only use the organ when the man needs it. It's not like we replace all of his organs because we feel like it. If he's in a car crash, and his liver is crushed, either we give him the cloned liver, or he dies. The probability of life is better than death. Thanks for continuing this debate.
Human Cloning

This assumes that the human cloning process can be done quickly, and without notice. However, it would take years for the cloned army to reach an age at which they could do anything besides be a bunch of schoolyard bullies. " i understand where my opponent is coming from, but don't you think that A, if research advances, don't you think that Humans would be able to clone humans at a specific age, that they would want the clone to come out off. and B if a huge Operation is Being held, don't you think world leaders or people with aces to this can wait a couple of years. . ( there is a thing out there called Child soldiers. .. at large numbers, they could be affective. Plus, if the clones are to be born naturally, couldn't this be accomplished just as easy through natural pregnancy? What difference does cloning make? " when a natural birth is given, it requires doctors, required staff and ETC, if we were to legalize cloning huge farms could be set up, with just cubicles of babies growing. .. at a huge number. .. The best use (and only use, really) of human cloning would be to clone individual organs, which could then be used as replacements in the case of organ failure. " The problem with cloning organs, is that you start to interfere with ethnic groups, as it is playing the role of "god" if you put the hands of your life in the hands of a doctor. . fortunately not all ethnic followers are like that, but extremists are heard and are listened too. .. . who says that the organ failure would be as good as a healthy normal heart? who says that along the way, it might just have a defect? Who knows. .. ..
American History Is Fiction, False & Propaganda To The Highest Degree

You're wrong. Nobody, And I say LITERALLY nobody hides any of the facts you presented. Yes, I knew that Washington and others owned slaves. And yes, I know blacks were still enslaved back then (though not all blacks were slaves and not all whites were free. The government was more citizens>slaves that white>black). Nobody is denying or hiding these facts! These are all well known historical facts which you could find out by simply going on Wikipedia. How is any of that hypocritic or false? It's a fact. You build up strawmen and use a few historical misconceptions (which aren't exclusive to America) to then claim that all of American history is fiction. By the way, Blacks were never 3/5 human in the US. That was only decided for slaves, Not all black people. And no such thing was ever written in the constitution. You accuse Americans of twisting history and lying to spread propaganda yet you do the exact same thing! And it never says "The natives are merciless savages" in the Constitution either. Another lie. You accuse Americans of lying yet you do the exact same thing. Maybe you should go learn history yourself before you claim all of American history is false. I'm not even going to get into the BLM crap. But let me tell you this: the law doesn't refuse to punish officers for murder. You are wrong. Policemen who murder citizens for no reason go to jail. You are wrong. You claim to prove me wrong with documented evidence. Where is your evidence again, Exactly?
American History Is Fiction, False & Propaganda To The Highest Degree

You say that you want to remain civil, But right off the bat, Names such as moronic/stupidity is coming out of your mouth. I never said that the Constitution and Declaration didn't exist. I said that that they're a scam because they're outdated, They've been ratified numerously and they were drafted/written/overseen by well-known racists. Yes, It's a fact that James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, G. Washington etc, Owned slaves, Which destroys moral credibility of these people. The Declaration is also a slap in the face of Black people. America proudly celebrates the Fourth of July, But blacks were still enslaved during that time. Did you know that Black soldiers fought in the war? Are you aware that those soldiers were thrown back into slavery? These two documents displays this country's hypocrisy perfectly. So. . . They guarantee us basic human rights? Well, What was the point of the Civil Rights movement? By the way, The Civil Rights movement came many decades later. So. . . Why did the Constitution state that Black people were considered three-fifths human if it was all about guaranteeing basic human rights? . . . The famous quote of the Declaration states that "All Men Are Created Equal, " but just 30 lines below that statement it said that "the natives were merciless savages. " Is that not a contradiction? . . . You don't need (extraordinary evidence) if you have documented facts. Your next misstep happened by saying that "if they were false, That doesn't make the gov. A scam. " Sound's like another contradiction to me. Emphatically saying something to a nation of people & not living by what was written is fraud. Is fraud not a scam? You said that "Vikings discovered America. " OK. . . So why does American history books emphatically state that Columbus discovered America? . . . Better yet, How can someone discover a land when people are already present on the land? If Thanksgiving isn't considered a historical fact, Then why is it pushed as a historical fact? Why celebrate it when thousands of natives were slaughtered on that day? As you can see, You have no logical argument. Once again, American history books talks specifically about the Big Bang Theory. Does it not? You said that "all races are created equal under the law. " So. . . Explain to me why are so many (Innocent) Black males killed by white police? Are you aware that many of the cases were (Recorded), Which proves the innocence? The law still refuses to punish the officers for murder. How can an officer's word hold more weight than recorded video? Everything you've said is full of lies and contradiction in which I proved with solid evidence? You backtracked on numerous occasions, And I still proved you wrong with documented evidence.
American History Is Fiction, False & Propaganda To The Highest Degree

I want to remain civil, But you're saying complete nonsense. What information have foreigners taught you, Specifically, That's incorrect in American history? Are they qualified enough to make such claims? Are they historians or just clueless average people with a basic knowledge of history? You claim that our country and our government is one big scam. A claim like that is just moronic. I'm not going to discuss it, As it's up to you to prove that. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence aren't one big scam. How could they be, In what way? Do you mean that they don't exist? But they do, We have them today and they guarantee us basic human rights! Do you mean that they weren't actually signed? But they were, We have the original copies and the events were historically recorded! To make such outlandish claims, You would have to present extraordinary evidence. So far, You have presented zero. Now for your basic examples. Even if they were all false, That doesn't make our government a scam and our whole history false. That's an insane assumption not supported by any evidence. But let's discuss your examples. Columbus didn't discover America, It's believed that the Vikings did, And Columbus never set foot in mainland America. But nobody hides that fact! When I went to school, I learned that Columbus didn't discover America. Nobody is hiding any evidence that Columbus didn't discover America, It's a well-known fact in the scientific community! Columbus is merely a symbol. Thanksgiving isn't considered to be historical fact, It's a myth used to promote a popular holiday. The Big Bang theory. . . Jesus Christ our holy saviour. The Big Bang theory isn't related to American history. It's a scientific fact. How stupid do you have to be to bring the Big Bang theory when discussing American history? The ignorance is astounding. Nobody is trying to brainwash anybody. In the United States, All races are equal under the law and slavery is illegal, As well as discrimination. I don't know where you got the lie that our government brainwashes kids so they become racist. That is just insane stupidity and intellectual dishonesty. You said you're not trying to turn this into a racist thing, But you are. Like I said, Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your only evidence is some inconsistencies in historical events which nobody in the scientific community even genuinely believes! You build up strawmen and then claim the government and schools are racist with no evidence whatsoever. This whole debate shouldn't be happening. Assuming that all of American history is fiction and propaganda is moronic and plain retarded.
American History Is Fiction, False & Propaganda To The Highest Degree

Hello, & thanks for the discussion. Well, I've travelled a lot, Especially during my time in the service and with my current job. Speaking with people from various countries like Spain, Nigeria, Israel, Great Brittan etc, They've schooled me on a lot of information that's being hidden in America's education system. I'll start out by saying that if you believe the majority of things that are written in our school's curriculum, Then you're definitely clueless on what authentic history truly is. From the Constitution, To the Declaration of Independence, This country/government is one big scam of propaganda. Basic Examples: Our school curriculum teaches us that C. Columbus discovered America in which he did not. Thanksgiving is said to be the day pilgrims & Indians sat together and celebrated over a meal in which they didn't. The Big Bang theory is utter nonsense, And so-called Irish-slavery in America is complete B. S. Yes, The dishonesty is blatant because it's being used as propaganda to brainwash the youth to make one racial group appear as if its better than the next group and that's a guaranteed fact. There are tons of basic and important information that never seem to get the time of day, And that's done on purpose. Nope, I'm not trying to turn this into a racist thing, But if you posses a logical mind state, Then you'd definitely see the inconsistencies on how the government/media portrays the races in America.