Children shouldn't be pressured or forced to accept their parents' religion

Zach, I am gonna drop the Catholic relationship point. It is not productive to the debate but I have quoted Catholic teaching, I myself am a Biblical Scholar, what more can I say? It shows you had bad teaching. It explains why today you are not a Christian. Your lack of understanding is the reason why you left the Christian faith. Objective Moral Values – I believe again you may not understand the purpose of OMV's and how they pertain. What you are proposing- A Parent should not have the authority to teach their children their own personal moral values but must teach them everyone else's. You are stating that your own personal beliefs outweigh the beliefs of the parents. By what authority is your belief system more correct than theirs? By what authority or by what right do you claim your accuracy? You simply put have no claim. If you claim common consensus then you hit the Nazi problem. By common consensus they were able to murder millions because it suited their belief system. By what authority (what makes you inherently right that everyone should agree) can you claim your personal belief system of "parents having to teach other moral and spiritual values" as superior? In essence you have none. Christianity has objective moral value system that is predicated upon God ordaining it. Nazi's were wrong whether or not they agreed with being wrong. Murdering countless people is Really Wrong. This seals your problem. A society can only then by force assert their beliefs on the parents they disagree with. As with Ireland. You have a fallacy here. The parents do not agree with you. You then have to force them to teach what you believe to be true. Thus you are in turn using the very "wrongful force" that the resolution states is bad. You essentially have no authority but the common consensus of (peers, friends, prisoners, the government of Ireland?) that parents should not do this. To force them to teach what you want causes the exact same complaint you had. Who would be right and who would be wrong? Objective Moral Values do exist. It is why so many people believe in a God right off. They know inherently there are things that are just really wrong. Christianity teaches that system and cultivates that system of evaluation. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." This shows the very wrong of something that is really wrong. It is completely logical. Without this way of thinking on how to act with others, you have a problem. If you can do something wrong to someone and be ok with that event you have rejected those moral values that are REALLY right. If morals are illusory then this world doesn't work properly. The Illusory argument has not been used for a very long time in open forum debates. Most atheists do not tackle it. This brings us to the statement: "I am not saying you should let your fourteen year old experience satanic orgies and get an STD" At what point and for what reason do you get the knowledge or rationale as to which religion is accurate? You claim the children should learn the various religions but which ones? The safe ones like Christianity or the dangerous ones like Islam or the really destructive ones like Church of Satan or ones that lead to drug usage and addiction to heighten the senses like free love? By what authority/rationale/inherency do you claim superior knowledge of these things? The Parents do claim superior knowledge. My next point addresses your saying you have biblical teaching and understanding. I would disagree with your fundamental understanding of both the Christianity you should have been taught and the muslim faith you are appealing to. Even Catholics disagree with you on the Muslims. The beheadings(1), woman gang rapes(2), religious intolerance(3 from a Catholic perspective) predicated on the belief that Christians and Jews should be killed, I would keep going but I believe the point was made. It shows that your fundamental understanding of Religion does not agree with the application of those religions. Wait! If Christians got in charge there might be rampant churches that sing all day long and help the poor. That would suck! To really drive home my point, knowing the stories does not mean you understand Christianity. Jesus Christ spent much of his ministry rebuking the Jews, who had the Old Testament, for being outright wrong in their biblical interpretation. Christians know that God personally holds people responsible for accurate Biblical interpretation. "Parents forcing kids into Judaism caused their deaths in the Holocaust" Wow. You are born Jewish. They were killed because of their racial distinction not their religion. This is still an absurd statement even if they were killed for their religion. A mad man's desire to kill comes is not the fault of the religion but the mad man. "Murder is an unrealistic comparison" Islamic religion teaches Murder is ok. They define the circumstances that makes this ok. Do we let them try it to find out if the Muslims are right by killing their infidel parents? Do we let our 14 year old go out and commit gang rapes because according to the Muslim religion it is acceptable to rape the "deserving" women? It is all in context of Religion. "We have absolutely no way of knowing if it is the right way and teaching potentially incorrect things to kids is wrong and irresponsible." Another subjective statement. If Christianity is the right one then you have unwittingly lead millions to their dooms in Hell. How do you know? Or at the very least you have lead millions to religions that kill with rewards, like Muslims. But whats a few million victims between religions? "Muslims teach the importance of almsgiving to the needy, fasting, kindness, and living your whole life according to the rules of Allah." Sure they do. That is why all of the Muslim controlled societies are absolute utopian societies ensuring the needy are fulfilled. Want to visit Garbage City in Cairo? It is the only safe place for Christians. http://discussion.socalskateparks.com... "Hindus teach that marriage is a sacrament, just as Christianity does" We must be great brethren! That is why they are killing off entire villages of Christians in Orissa! They just want to send us to Heaven faster. What great people. http://persecution.in... Shinto - Harmony with Nature? In comparison to Christianity that is a weak definition of Good. To summarize: Parents should not be forced to teach their Children those religious views that go against Objective Moral Values. We do not allow parents of other religions to teach their children that gang rapes are ok. If we discover this we take the children away. Same for Honor Killings, murder, women street beatings etc. This is why Christians do not believe the Gospel is only important for life after death but for life before death as well. We do not allow the Followers of Molech to sacrifice their children by fire. It is not just happenstance that the common consensus in America is in agreement. All of the Children of the country are taught Objective Moral Standards. How many schools have the "Golden Rule" posted in the classroom? Where do you think that comes from? Luke 6:31 "Do to others as you would have them do to you." Go to Iran and you will find something very different being taught. In America traditionally we have only allowed Christian Moral Standards to be taught to children or when those moral standards from other religions match our own. You have freedom of worship within reason. (1)http://www.meforum.org... (2) http://www.frontpagemag.com... (3) http://www.seattlecatholic.com...