Goku will win a fight against Superman if not equally match him

Rebuttalshis sheer training time is not SO LONG that it can give him a huge advantage.*Again, I would like to remind Con that it is more about the quality of something rather the quantity or length. I believe Goku's training was much more intense and difficult than Superman's. I doubt Batman's lessons to Superman ON EARTHwould be harder than Goku's training in 100x Earth's Gravity. I believe that while his sheer training time is not SO LONG, it definitely makes up for it with it's intensity and the fact that each time he trains, he improves significantly.once Superman has recorded the principles and moves of a certain martial arts style, he would have no difficulty in reciprocating it.*Goku has been able to do this since childhood, copying the moves of others. He sucessfully performed his first Kamehameha wave after seeing it done once by Roshi. Like Superman, Goku also has perfect body control, which are fruits from his intense training. Goku can do all of these just as easily as superman. Also, what good is reciprocating your opponent? Goku was able to defeat an exact (if not stronger) copy of himself when he was a child, though he struggled a lot as the copy never tired like Goku. it is only possible to defeat a stronger opponent if one can manage to lock or pin down the opponent.*That is not true. You can defeat a stronger opponent with speed and skill. We are already debating the topic of speed, which I will continue later on, therefore I must convince Con that Goku is more skillful in the art of fighting.If the opponent already knows how to counter such maneuvers, then having superior martial arts is useless.*Does this mean that Con has implied or conceded that Goku's martial arts skills are superior? If not, I shall try to convince Con that they are in the next passage.I really fail to see how "fly" and "shoot destructive energy blasts" have anything to do with martial arts.*They are part of Goku's martial art. He's learned these skill through martial arts, therefore, they are martial arts skills. However, to be able to achieve the ability to fly and manipulate ki, a martial artist must reach a certain level of skill, which superman hasn't (but doesn't need to). Even if Superman HAS achieved this level of skill in martial arts, he would not further advance his skills in martial art by learning the ability to fly with ki and manipulate his ki. Furthermore, these skill are needed in order to advance even farther in martial arts, which Goku has done. Because superman did not proceed his training to learn the ability to manipulate ki at will, his skills in martial arts cannot improve past that point, but Goku's has. This should mean that Goku's skills in martial arts surpasses Superman's.If the opponent already knows how to counter such maneuvers, then having superior martial arts is useless.*I don't believe this to be true. To knowhow to counter is different from being ableto counter. I am sure both Con and I have in our brains the knowledge of how to block or dodge a punch or a kick. However, if we were in a fight against someone with superior fighting skills, that does not neccessarily mean we will not take a blow from a punch or kick. Let's say Superman is in a situation where all his limbs are preoccupied and Goku throws a punch at him. Superman sees it coming and knows how to counter it, but unfortunately he can't. If Con's statement were true, there would be no such thing as "superior" martial arts, therefore Con's statment contradicts itself.Superman entered Hyperspace, which enabledinstant travel.*We have a problem here, because through a quick google search I found a respectable site with information about Superman's capabilities and the contents highly contradict your statements about Superman's speed. According to this site, in Pre-Crisis Superman, I quote, "Superman's speed increased to the point where he could travel faster than light. Several stories depict him traversing great distances through space to other solar systems and distant galaxies and even other universes. He could cross our own solar system in minutes."*Acording to my source, he was even slower in Post-Crisis, Golden Age, and Modern Era. www.superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman's_Powers_and_AbilitiesSuperman can see into the entire electromagnetic spectrum.*This only proves that he cannot be blinded by light, but what about the absence of light? No matter how adaptable his eyes are, there is no way he can see anything when there is no light at all, in complete darkness. In a fight between Goku and Superman, we must assume that their fight can take place anywhere in the universe, because of their speed and strength, they will destroy planets and might resort to fighting in space. Theoretically, they could be fighting in a BLACK HOLE, in which LIGHT IS SUCKED AWAY, LEAVING COMPLETE DARKENESS. There is no part of the electromagnetic spectrum that he can see because it is all sucked away. I doubt X-ray vision will help. How can he SEE THROUGH NO LIGHT? Furthermore, he can't hear anything either because sound doesn't exist in space and if Superman were able to hear sound in space, sound be slower than light, would also get sucked by the black hole.However, Goku wouldn't be affected as critically because he DOESN'T RELY ON HIS EYESand can sense superman's ki and fight him.________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Adendum-I have proved that Goku's skill in martial arts IS in fact superior to Supermans, evening out the advantage Superman has in brute strength, which isn't that much to begin with. I believe it is fair to say that the difference between their strength is like the difference between the strengths of a twenty year old man and a 10 year old boy.-I have refuted Con's claim that Superman is INFINITELY FAST and proved that Goku is faster.-I have proved that Superman CAN BE BLINDED, while Goku, who doesn't need to rely on his eyes, can utilize this advantage.-I shall now make another shaky statment for the fun of it :D.* Con has mentioned that it does take time for Goku to bring his fingers to his forehead to perform instant transmission. What if, say he keeps his fingers on his forehead like that constantly without letting go after his first teleportation? Say he would focus on all the ki's in the universe, because he can only teleport instantly to somewhere near a ki source. Theoretically, this can result in Goku traveling instantly and randomly to all places in the world with ki. This would mean, theoretically, he would be able to travel to ALL PLACES with ki IN LITERALLY NO TIME. Now it is very possible that he would have transported to an area with Kryptonite nearby, which he could bring back to Superman as a gift. This is very large scale, but note that there is asubstantial ammount of kyrptonite ON EARTH, therefore, theoretically, Goku can find kryptonite on earth by teleporting everywhere to look for some, which he can use against Superman. ***Of course I am not serious about this. This is only a joke and I do not expect Con to comment on this. It was just something funny that came across my mind that I wanted to share.*I would now like to make point as something viewers and Con can think about for fun. Though it is relevant, it is not to be connected or integrated into the debate in any way. Goku has the tendencey to overcome and defeat opponents stronger than him, no matter how much stronger. Superman is theoretically, infinitely strong. Now in a fight between a man who defeats people stronger than him and a man who is infinitely stronger, what will happen? I believe this topic has been debated regularly because it creates a sort of paradox. Kind of like the chicken and the egg dilema. Or if I asked you that if you invented a time machine in 2014 and traveled back to 1990 and from there used the machine to travel back to 2014, when was the first time travel? Just a fun thought :D