Mormons Are Christians Too.

I think I'll just jump straight into It. Definitions: Proof- Evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth. Subject 1: The BOM proven false "Much of the BOM has been proven false in the past, and saying that people wouldn't follow something that is false is completely wrong." The Book of Mormon has NOT been proven false; I apologize for whoever mislead you Con, however the BOM has never been proven false. Never has evidence sufficient enough to establish the Book of Mormon as false been presented. Con, please do not put words into my mouth; I never stated that people wouldn't follow something that is false. I stated and I quote, "If the BOM was proven to be impossible, the Mormon faith would not have over 14 million members." And I stand by that quote completely the Book of Mormon has NEVER been proven false, and if it was I have a firm believe it would not have over 14 million members. I really hope we can put this topic behind us; it is completely off the subject. Because there is a lack of Israeli DNA in today's Native Americans, or because there is a lack of bones related to horses, oxen, ext… is not grounds for proof, and it will never be. You cannot say there was never a Jesus because we couldn't find his body. A lack of evidence is NEVER considered to be proof. If we were arguing whether or not the BOM is true, I'd send you to a website called www.jefflindsay.com. This is not proof the BOM is true, but it is strong evidence that's interesting to read. Subject 2: Mormons belief in the Bible The LDS church does in fact believe that a small portion of the New Testament was lost over the years of translating; a very small portion, four pages, or 55 verses, compared to the KJV Bibles 2,774 pages, and endless verses, so as I sated earlier, your claim that 'Mormons do not believe in a majority of the bible,' is completely 100% false. Joseph smith did not add these translations to the Bible; instead he put them into a book called The Pearl of Great Price. The LDS faith uses the same translation of the King James Version that can be found in a book store, word for word. "it is safe to assume that they believe that the majority of the Bible was misinterpreted." I believe con is trying to state that because the Mormons belief a portion of the Bible was misinterpreted, they cannot be considered Christians? If this is true then I'd like to enlighten Con, there is over 100 different versions of the Bible in English. Many Christian sects believe that the KJV was mistranslated over time. As a result they use the New International Version, the American Standard Version, the Amplified Bible, the Contemporary English Version, or the Emphasized Bible, the list goes on and on. Keep in mind readers that if Con is correct, and Mormons are not Christians because they believe four pages of the King James Version was mistranslated over time, neither are hundreds of Christian sects that have completely retranslated the entire bible, Including the Old Testament. "Simply knowing about different religions is not the same as believing in them, the fact that there are classes taken about the other texts does not make it true. Because of this, your argument holds no weight." The two Years of seminary we spend learning the Old Testament and the New Testament has absolutely nothing to do with understanding different religions. It is required because Mormons believe strongly in the Old Testament and in the New Testament. Mormons study them for two years to understand their own faith, and their own belief in these books. My entire argument has complete weight. Subject 3: Trinity vs. Godhead "I know this however I don't believe you fully grasp the concept of the Godhead, or the Trinity as most call it." Con, I spent many years exploring the different sects of Christianity, until I found the one I believed to be the most accurate. I truly believe YOU do not understand the concept of the Godhead, or the Trinity for that matter, because it is two completely different beliefs. Christian sects that believe in the Godhead believe there is three distinct Gods in heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. What you described in your argument was the trinity; it is NOT to be confused as the Godhead. There are many Christian sects that believe what you just said actually is blasphemy. I sat down the other day with a Minister form the Iglesia Ni Cristo Church of Christ. He told me that he was happy the Mormons got one thing right, there view on the Godhead. The members of his congregation would be extremely upset if Con explained to them they are not Christians because they believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three completely different beings. In fact, I had a debate prior to this one with another Christian, and we were arguing that exactly, which one is more biblically accurate, the Godhead, OR the Trinity. Subject 4: Hell's Relevance to the Authenticity of a Church's Christianity. "I believe that all Christians know that Hell, like Heaven are spiritual locations where our souls go after death." Not true, all Christian sects reserve there right to have their own view on Hell, I've talked with some who literally believe it is a place in the middle of the earth, and you burn in fire for all eternity. "If you want to quote people on television or a few magazines as proof, that's fine, but I'm going to quote the Bible." Con, we are not arguing a topic in the Bible sir, we are arguing if Mormons are Christians, and the people I'm quoting on television or in magazines are ministers and pastors of very prominent Christian Church's who are explaining their Christian Churches stance on hell, and they happen to have similar views with the Mormons in this issue. Conclusion All the different sects of Christianity very tremendously, which is exactly why we have thousands of different sects of Christianity. If all of Christian's views were exactly the same we would not have religious debates, we would not have a religious forum, and we would not have thousands of different sects. We would all be one church with the same views. Mormons call themselves Christians because they belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They love Jesus Christ very much and they strive everyday to become more like him, therefore, Mormons are Christians. Con, I shouldn't have made this debate 5 rounds: / it seems like it's kind of lengthy. I vote we end this debate on round three or round four. If you feel like you have more points to make we can keep the debate going, If not let me know which round you want to conclude on and we can finish. References http://www.jefflindsay.com... http://dictionary.reference.com... http://www.allbibles.com... http://lds.org...