Gay Marriage Should Be Allowed

It seems you are debating a bit more than just the legality of gay marriage. This makes the subject very complex. Hopefully we can get through everything. It is my every intention to remain civil and respectful to you and to gays while disagreeing with many of their ideas. When gays and similar people listen, for example, to messages from others on this subject, they often feel attacked. I really hope no one personally feels attacked in this debate, while I will attack homosexuality. I. My first point is on your second paragraph, and you say, "I believe that every person has the right to live their lives as they see fit." I'm not sure if you recognize your error here, but just in case you don't I will have to explain. If everyone in the world was good, then this could be true. They aren't; from what I've seen, many people are bad, very bad. You could argue sexual preferences aren't affecting anyone else's lives, but they are discreetly undermining the meaning of sex and marriage. Perhaps some would see this as a good thing, however I do not. II. "I understand that the Bible condemns homosexuality." Let's talk about this a bit. I do not know all your beliefs about the Bible, but you say on your profile that you are a Christian. Consider this verse, (don't mistake it, I'll explain it in a second) "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13 KJV) Firstly, I certainly do not believe death should be the punishment for homosexuality; that would be taking the verse out of context. This is a law strictly for the levites and has since been overwritten anyway. However, it would not be taking it out of context to say homosexuality is an abomination. That part is pretty clear and concise and this was not written during the Romans and Greeks either. Also, other verses say the same thing, and let us not forget Sodom and Gomorra. In the New Testament, Paul touches on the subject so I urge you to read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and Romans 1:26-27. Now what is wrong with it you ask? Well according to the Bible, marriage is instituted by God. He created a man, and as he was obviously alone, God created woman for him to marry. God could have created one gender or made us asexual, but He made two genders, so that when they marry, they create children. Do you see where I'm going with this? One last thing, if you are not a Christian and believe in evolution, there is no reason to believe that homosexuality is wrong, but there is reason to believe that gay marriage should not be allowed. I will explain this further. III. About your friend, I feel utmost sympathy for her. However, I do not change my position. She should not have sex with her own sex despite her attractions. I do not ask her to change and marry a man, but she may not marry a woman. This may sound cruel, but who ruined marriage for her? God, the law, or the evil fool who raped her? Also, being tolerant does not mean giving in to ideas that I think are wrong. It means not telling people what I believe, while, in this case, allowing them to make whatever choice they wish and love them anyway. However, this doesn't really apply to gay marriage. IV. "As for people who ask for homosexuals to change, I ask, if homosexuals were a majority and they demanded that you change, what would you say?" Some Christians see a gay come into the Church become a Christian and expect that person to suddenly be straight. What fools. While some gays may change, most will struggle with homosexuality their whole life. I don't expect anyone to "change" like we would want them to. Secondly, your point fails because if most people were homosexuals, humans, or at least the gays, would die off. There is a reason that most people are heterosexual. V. "Everyone is born differently, and everyone's life is different in different ways, further shaping who they become. Some things can be reversed, but some things are attached to the core of our being and make us us. That's how it is." An interesting issue is if gays are born gay. VI. "And some would argue that legalizing gay marriage would make it so that pedophiles and the like would then receive similar rights in the future." Now, I do not assume that pedophiles and the like will ever receive these rights. This is much more widely condemned in our culture, not to mention this is a slippery slope fallacy. However, in order to be fair to everyone, marriage between adults and children, animals and humans, and polygamy should (not ‘will') be allowed. I also realized relatives should be allowed this right too as long as they don't reproduce. You see, now marriage isn't about reproduction at all. You're completely separating marriage and reproduction from each other by allowing gay marriage. "People have the sense to know that zoophilia and pedophilia is wrong, that's not going to change. Except those in those groups of course." Why don't these people have rights? You are in turn "discriminating" these people. I would ask you to re-explain why the aforementioned "unacceptable" forms of marriage (not just zoophilia and pedophilia but other forms too) are unacceptable. This is a crucial point. "In truth, heterosexuals and homosexuals are equals." The people are equal, but not the marriages. Gay marriages will not reproduce, and these couples do not provide proper support for children. VII. "As for sex being meaningless without the ability to reproduce…" Now, I think I've touched on this a little already. Homosexuality implies sex is merely for pleasure, not just for gay sex but for all sex. That is what homosexuality purports, it is not for reproduction, it is for pleasure only. Now, I would ask, is adultery immoral and why? We will continue this argument in the next round. VIII. "Who should be denied true love?" Apparently, adults and children, as well as siblings, animals and humans, etc. should be denied true love. If your married, and suddenly love someone else, should that be denied? If you love multiple people, should that also be denied? IX. About children with gay parents, you bring up the example of single parents. Divorce, I believe is never a good thing in any situation, one of the strongest reasons being children are left living with one parent. This is a bad thing, and so is a child living with parents of one sex. A woman is never in reality a father, even if they she is required to act like one. A father (a real one) is so important in a boy's life, and without one, he will be required to find a father-figure. I do not support this type of family. God established male and female parents for a reason. Also, on the whole mother father role gay parents issue, the children are now being told that men can be mothers. Mothers are supposed to be the ones who birth children, feed children, and most importantly are women. Are we trying to muddle gender into an indistinguishable mess? People are male and female for a reason. Sometimes single parents are required to fill in both shoes, but I do not support this. X. You mention on a few instances hatred and such with homosexuals and I think we both understand I am completely against any hatred for anyone. This doesn't really apply to gay marriage though. XI. Most people in America oppose gay marriage, another reason it should not be made legal. [1] We have a lot to get through in this debate. Good luck. [1] http://articles.cnn.com...