BeIR/webis-touche2020 huggingface dataset:
BORDER FENCING

Two points - #1 Where are you getting your information for the warrants statistic? And where did you get the number that only 2% of farm laborers are illegal? Because the first number seems a bit high and the second number seems a bit low. #2 What proof do you have they don't pay taxes? Or is that just a general statement? Newseek published an article in 2005 where they claimed that illegal immigrants paid almost 9 billion dollars in taxes that year. Do you have any evidence to disprove that? The fence would accomplish approximately 0. We can't fence off the Gulf of Mexico, and we can't lock down nearly 700 miles of border on a whim. The best thing to do is to make Mexico's and other Latin American countries' economies viable in the world market and remove the drug cartels that scare so many people out of those countries.
Mafia is not at all fun to everybody.

Clarification: I messed up so the debate round's title is Mafia is not fun at all to everybody. First off, mafia is a party game (look in the games forum here) with a ton of rules. http://en.wikipedia.org...(party_game) Also to clarify, I am sorry for not clarifying but I will either present A. or B. A.- I prove that the following statement is false, Mafia is not fun at all to everybody. B.- I prove the above point and prove that Mafia is fun to everybody. I choose A. First off, many people like mafia so that makes the whole point illogical. I know that at least I like mafia which means that if 100% of the current generation is everybody and I like mafia so that makes at least one person. 2nd of all, even if one person likes mafia and the whole world doesn't then this statement is illogical. I will expand later on because I've had so much to do. Bye.
Mafia is not at all fun to everybody.

Abuse is a debate term for a situation in which one side puts an impossible burden on the other. This debate is clearly a case of abuse as my opponent has switched the meaning of the resolution and thus the sides we are arguing. As such, I can't fulfill the burden he places on me because 1.) I accepted the debate in anticipation of arguing that mafia is not fun to everyone and 2.) He can't switch the terms of the debate in the second round. The problem is not with my knowledge of the game Mafia, it's with my opponent's blatant abuse and attempted redirection of the resolution partway through the round.
Mafia is not at all fun to everybody.

I don't need to argue that but you know that I misstated the title so I am sorry. This is practically the opposite of what I meant. I am so sorry and this is the wrong title as I mentioned. If you want to debate about whether I should not in this debate debate about if Mafia is not at all fun to everybody, you're welcome too. I already know I'm going to lose but I'll give this a try. If someone misstates something in the debate, the opponents can use it against them but if someone misstates the title and refers back to it apologizing for the title getting mixed up, it's fine plus if the opponent doesn't know what the thing is then it counts as a double bonus so my opponent has to prove that Mafia is not fun to everybody because before my opponent's argument has started I have already restated the thing I actually meant. Therefore it goes back to my first argument which makes it that if all people didn't like Mafia, it's impossible because I like Mafia. Thanks.
Mafia is not at all fun to everybody.

Not at all means the same as not and for simplicity's sake let's just use not because not at all has no opposite form. I can't say that negating the resolution would make the statement "Mafia is fun at all to everybody" true because it is grammatically nonsense and not at all is a figure of speech. My opponent must prove, then that mafia is fun to everybody and I must prove that it's not fun to everybody. I don't like Mafia, therefore not everybody likes Mafia. My opponent can't prove that everyone likes Mafia because I don't like it. I don't have to prove that no one takes joy in Mafia, just that not everybody finds joy in it. If the wording of the resolution were "no one has fun playing Mafia" then this would be the case but given the use of the term everybody, my opponent must prove the absolute.
I Exist

I thank Con for their response. I would also point out this appears to be All Stars first debate on DDO. .. .. .. .. .. welcome to the jungle. Con says "One does not have to have a conscious to exist , yet a blade of grass has no conscious but it still appears to exist. " I agree, I never said that only things that have conscious exist, so how does this refute my argument ? Con says "You may exist in your own mind , but to us you are just a thought traveling through hyperspace. " Even if we grant Cons skepticism of my existence, this doesn't refute the argument, cause the argument isn't dependent on whether other things acknowledge my existence. Con says "That means that we are infinitely insignificant, and therefore; do not exist. " Con wrongly equates insignificance with non existence. The first premise of my argument says "1) Only something that exists can question its own existence". This went without challenge from Con, so moving on. The second premise says "2) I am questioning my own existence" The second premise went without challenge.
I Exist

You claim that you sir, exist. How are you to know that you exist? You say "I think therefore i am" One does not have to have a conscious to exist , yet a blade of grass has no conscious but it still appears to exist. But that of course would be giving you credit. Existence You may exist in your own mind , but to us you are just a thought traveling through hyperspace. Is this reality real ? That would be my first query . According to the math we learn in school, one over infinity is treated as zero because it is infinitely small. (1/infinity = 0) We are finite beings in an infinite universe. That means that we are infinitely insignificant, and therefore; do not exist.
I Exist

Definitions I = The instigator of this debate, known as Illegalcombatant on DDO. Exist = To have actual being. http://dictionary.reference.com... 1) Opening Arguments I am curious if anyone will argue against this, so just in case I had better give an argument to affirm the resolution. 1) Only something that exists can question its own existence 2) I am questioning my own existence 3) Therefore I exist "I think therefore I am" I look forward to Cons response.
R: Corporal Punishment is a reasonably adequate punishment for certain crimes.

I affirm: Corporal Punishment is a reasonably adequate and just punishment for certain crimes. [Definitions] For clarity I pose the following definitions. Corporal Punishment: caning or flogging. Reasonably: fair, proportionate Adequate: sufficient for the purpose Just: giving each their due [Observational Analysis] For analysis of the resolution, I pose the following observations. 1. The resolution asks for a "reasonably adequate" punishment. This is a punishment that is proportion to the crime that has been committed. Note: Proportionality is not equivalence. 2. Certain crimes. The affirmative offers the 3 following crimes that warrant Corporal Punishment while in Jail/Detainment. Crimes: Rape, Kidnapping, Attempted Terrorism. [Contentions] Contention I: Corporal Punishment is a reasonable punishment.(Proportionality) For the 3 crimes I have posted above; corporal punishment is a proportionate response. These 3 crimes do not deserve death but they are too great for jail only. Punishments must be fair and proportionate. Using corporal punishment open up an avenue for an intrum punishment. I.e. a punishment between staying in jail only, and receiving the death penalty. For a punishment to be reasonable it must be: "fair, proportionate". Corporal Punishment is indeed proportionate for crimes that do not warrant death or jail only. Corporal Punishment could be sued while the person is in jail for the given amount of years, or life. (Since we are talking about rape, kidnapping, and attempted terrorism). Contention II: Reducing Crime (Justice) According to the CIA country information site, the countries which have corporal punishment have significantly lower crime rates then the US. E.g. Japan and Singapore. If deterrence is indeed a factor being played, it is a good secondary outcome, that is just for the members of society. Contention III: 8th Amendment (Proportionality, Constitutionality) The 8th Amendment is based off of the ideas of Beccaria. He said the famous quote: "The punishment must fit the crime." The 8th Amendment claims no cruel and unusual punishment. Beccaria explains that this means that the punishment cannot exceed that of the crime committed. If it does, then it is an unjust punishment, and thus violates the Constitution. for reasons in contention I, the punishment is proportionate, and is thus in coherence with the constitution. Contention IV: Faulty Jail System (Justice) The jail system in the US is faulty. We have overcrowded jails which lead to lessining of sentences. This is the reality of things. however the justice system must keep justice. Using corporal punishment can be used to achieve proportionality but have reduced sentences, if necessary. That way, we would have more room to fix the system, and return it back to normal. Therefore, corporal punishment is a just way for members of society by reducing taxes and making a more efficient justice system. Thank you ladies and gentlemen.
Immigration and Amesty

It is unfair that immigrants get to stay in the United States because their children were born here. Although their children are technically citizens, illegal immigrants should not be able to stay in the Nation and send their kids to public school paid for by the taxes of citizens. "Although almost three-quarters of the children of illegal immigrants were born in the United States and are therefore citizens, had their parents not entered the U.S. illegally these children likely wouldn't be in U.S. public schools and wouldn't require taxpayer funding. Thus, it's fair to say that their education cost stems from their parents' illegal entry into this country" (Izumi). A lot of the tax problems in the school system stem from the fact that parents are not paying for their children's' education and rely on citizens to pay for them. The costs for schools to function and to maintain is increasing. Many new schools need to be built and there is no money in the system. "Capital costs for school construction may have increased at a higher rate because of the influx of children of illegal immigrants" (Izumi). The need for new schools is because there are illegal immigrants coming to the nation and there is not room for them, and there is a shortage of money because these immigrants are not paying money to support the schools that they are sending their children to. Izumi, Lance T. "Educating Illegal Immigrants Costly." Atlanta Journal-Constitution. 18 Aug 2010: A.13. SIRS Issues Researcher. Web. 28 Oct 2013.
Immigration and Amesty

Although immigrants do not pay all the taxes that American citizens pay, they still propose many benefits to the United States of America. Throughout the years, it has been proven that immigrants have improved on the federal dept in the country. The article "Expanding Immigration Would Reduce the Federal Deficit, Some Conservatives Say," the author Jim Tankersley acknowledges, "In his new analysis, Holtz-Eakin predicts that those benefits would be substantial, for several reasons. Immigrants will add to the labor force, he says, helping to reverse a decline in workforce participation that began a decade ago " and boost the economy"s potential for growth in the process. Those added workers also could raise productivity, he says, because research shows that immigrants tend to be more entrepreneurial than native-born residents" (Tankersley). Many may argue that immigrants take away the jobs that Americans need in order to provide for their families, but the jobs that they are striving for are those that do not require a diploma, opposite from the jobs that a majority of immigrants want. Immigrants are known to be more diligent, when it comes to working, than American citizens. In addition, immigrants contribute to the economy as well as the country"s budget in a tremendous way. Tankersley provides, "Using the standard estimation tool of the Congressional Budget Office, which Holtz-Eakin used to direct, the extra growth adds up to $2.7 trillion in deficit reduction over a decade. This is how Republicans want the CBO to score tax-cut bills" (Tankersley). Immigrants assist American citizens with the help to decrease the deficit in the country. Allowing immigrants into the country will lower the deficit massively which will improve the nation"s economy in the long run. Expanding immigration throughout the country will benefit American"s by improving the economy and lowering the deficit. Tankersley, Jim. "Expanded Immigration Would Reduce the Federal Deficit, Some Conservatives Say." Washington Post. 08 April 2013. Web. 26 October 2013. Print.
Immigration and Amesty

Immigrants are not paying the income tax that all American citizens pay from their salaries. According to Jim DeMint, "An exhaustive study by the Heritage Foundation has found that after amnesty, current unlawful immigrants would receive $9.4 trillion in government benefits and services and pay more than $3 trillion in taxes over their lifetimes. That leaves a net fiscal deficit (benefits minus taxes) of $6.3 trillion. That deficit would have to be financed by increasing the government debt or raising taxes on U.S. citizens" (1). Illegal immigrants do pay property taxes; there is no way around that, but they are not paying income tax off of the money they make to support their families. Illegal immigrants take more money from the government than they do paying it back. They take advantage of social services for citizens, abuse them, and then create a deficit, which in turn will raise taxes even more for the citizens of the United States. Granting amnesty to illegal immigrants would be unfair the the citizens of the nation. DeMint also expresses "People the world over are attracted to the United States because we are a nation of laws. Granting amnesty to those who broke the law and putting them on a path to citizenship would be unfair, would encourage more bad behavior and would impose significant costs on American families" (1). People in other nations are attracted to the United States because it is a land of laws and opportunity. By abusing this, illegal immigrants are making the lives of citizens more difficult and expensive to live. In order for someone to become a United States citizen, they should enter the country legally, pay taxes, and not be a reason that increases taxes for people already citizens of the nation. DeMint, Jim, and Robert Rector. "The Burden of Amnesty." Washington Post. 07 May 2013: A.17. SIRS Issues Researcher. Web. 24 Oct 2013.
Immigration and Amesty

Believe it or not, a the majority of illegal immigrants do pay taxes according to Nick Gillespie and company"s text "Immigration Now, Immigration Tomorrow, Immigration Forever". Many argue that illegal immigrants do not pay taxes, but in reality, they pay the majority of taxes that the Americans pay. In his text, Gillespie acknowledges "About two-thirds of illegals pay Medicare, Social security, and income taxes. All pay sales taxes and property taxes (directly if they own property, or, more likely, indirectly via rents that reflect property taxes). And since 1996, the only public funds illegals can really access are for emergency medical care and primary and secondary education (and only ten percent of illegals send kids to public schools)" (Gillespie). Like Americans, illegal immigrants pay taxes to the government for living in the United States of America. Even though they do not pay all of the same exact taxes as American citizens, they pay the majority of taxes. Immigrants occupy a high percentage of skilled jobs because of the knowledge and skills that they possess. Gillespie recognizes that in the United States, fifty-four percent of tailors are foreign-born and forty-four percent of immigrants are plaster-stucco masons. Immigrants help the United States of America because they are contributing to the economy by putting their skills and knowledge to use. Immigrants strive to live their lives as individuals in America by contributing or offering their skills. Gillespie, Nick., Howley, Kerry., Lochhead, Carolyn., Cavanaugh, Tim., al, Et. "Immigration Now, Immigration Tomorrow, Immigration Forever. Reason. 01 August 2006: 30. eLibrary. Web 15 October 2013. Print.
Immigration and Amesty

Immigrants actually do take jobs away from Americans. Roger D. McGrath, author of "Deporting Illegal Immigrants", states that "However, several studies, including one conducted by the President's Commission on Migratory Labor in Texas, demonstrated that if employers paid standard American wages there would be plenty of Americans able and willing to take the jobs. In the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, for example, where tens of thousands of illegal aliens were employed, wages were half that paid in other parts of Texas for the same agricultural jobs" (McGrath 1-2). Employers are more willing to hire illegal immigrants because they will work for less money because they do not need to pay taxes because they are living in the United States ILLEGALLY. Law abiding citizens who pay taxes would obviously need to be payed at least minimum wage because they have to a piece of their salary to the government. Illegal immigrants also cause corruption in the government and Federal services. "It seems that corruption was a fact of life in the Immigration and Naturalization Service and in the Border Patrol... They were also staying here without restraint. Border Patrol agents tell stories of rounding up illegal aliens on large farms, only to have them released after the politically connected employer called the right people (McGrath 2). Even dealing with illegal immigrants once they were caught is an issue. They are able to call their employers who have them illegally employed and they are able to get the aliens out of customs and set free from being deported. Illegal immigrants cause problems even after being captured and they corrupt the government and federal services. Aliens, in fact, take jobs away from tax-paying citizens and cause corruption in federal services. McGrath, Roger D. "Deporting Illegal Immigrants." New American Vol. 26, NO. 15 Jul 19 2010: 35. Sirs Issues Researcher. Web. 20 October. 2013
Immigration and Amesty

Many believe that immigrants occupy jobs that Americans need, but in reality, immigrants are taking jobs that Americans do not want. In the article "Benefits of Immigration," the writer states, "Critics have claimed that immigrants take on jobs, lower down wages, and drain too much tax money because of social services. However, what they do not realize that the jobs immigrants take are the job most citizens in the host country do not take. Immigrants filling up these jobs lighten the load of producers and consumers and results in gains in economic welfare. It is a fact that immigrants are a source of low cost labor, but these cost reductions are eventually passed on to the consumer, so host country citizens benefit from this as well. The goods produced through the efforts of immigrant workers can also generate additional profits as the goods can be sold at lower price" (Benefits of Immigration). The jobs that do not pay well and are not appealing to Americans are the jobs that immigrants are more than willing to occupy. Plus, it is cheaper for the employer to pay for labor because immigrants are more lenient when it comes to wages. In addition, immigrants provide a younger workforce for American citizens. The author states "The ratio of retired people to workers is expected to dramatically increase in the coming decades that would result to significant changes in the Security System (i.e. benefits). Immigrants, with their children and younger relatives, will bring in more young workforce that can slow down the increase of this very important ratio" (Benefits of Immigration). The young minds of immigrants taking over senior citizens occupations would be good for the economy because they have the updated knowledge that senior citizens do not. There are a plethora of senior citizens retiring making jobs that Americans do not want available to immigrants. Because this ratio is essential, it is important for young immigrants to occupy the jobs that retired Americans leave. "Benefits of Immigration." BenefitOf.net. Benefits Of, 6 September 2011. Web. 21 October 2013. Print.
Immigration and Amesty

Illegal immigrants do nothing for the economy but take away opportunities for hard-working American citizens. Roger D. McGrath states in his article "Deporting Illegal Immigrants", "During World War II, with so many Americans in the service - and fighting and dying overseas - Mexicans illegally entered the United States to take advantage of employment opportunities, especially as agricultural laborers" (McGrath 1). Not only are illegal immigrants living in the country tax-free, but they are taking away jobs from tax-paying citizens who deserve the job over them. In no way do illegal immigrants help the United States economy; they are just hurting the nation and the citizens who are living in it. Illegal immigrants have been a concern of American citizens since World War II. "By the end of World War II there were some two million illegal aliens living in California, Arizona and Texas. U.S. citizens in those states began complaining that the Mexican illegals undercut the workingman's wages, committed crimes, caused a general deterioration of the communities they lived in, gave birth to children at the country's expense, and sent older children to local schools - crowding classrooms and breaking school district budgets" (McGrath 1). Not only is the economy suffering, American citizens are also very unpleased with the presence of illegal immigrants. They do nothing but cause problems in society and get in the way of citizens' every day lives. Illegal immigrants are not welcomed by the citizens of the United States because they only take away opportunities from and cause trouble in their every day lives.