Experts' Tier R1: In a fair fight, Mace Windu would likely defeat Yoda.

Pro's Case I shall forgo responding to the claim that I have failed to rebut pro's case, but only on the grounds that I have no idea where pro is getting such an assertion from. 1. Such an ability would only be useful if his opponent was unaware that Mace Windu had such an ability. Master Yoda, having been on the Jedi Council with Windu, been on at least one mission with him, and having been Mace Windu's personal master, Yoda would surely know that his weakest points would be a special target for Mace Windu, and would therefore make note to protect those parts of his body more than usual [1]. 2. Such a feat was only ever demonstrated once. Impressive as it is, the ability has a drains the Force-users' energy and metabolism, requiring a longer recovery period before using it again. Therefore even if Mace Windu decided to use such an ability, he would only be able to use it a few times if not only once without risking too much of a drain on his energy [2]. 3. While this may be so, Yoda was also a master practitioner of the Force Wave [3]. 4. While Yoda would certainly not utilize such a technique, Yoda is a very acrobatic fighter, and therefore such a use of the Force on Yoda would be very difficult to achieve. 5. While Mace Windu has been able to lift an AT-TE walker (a large metal walker which is approximately 13x5x5 meters in volume), Yoda has lifted not one, but two C-9979 landing craft (a large transport vessel which is approximately 210x370x150 meters in volume). Therefore it is very unlikely that Mace Windu is stronger in the Force than Yoda. 6. While this may be so, according to the Power of the Jedi Sourcebook: "...only his onetime friend, Dooku, and the venerable Grand Master Yoda could outspar him" [4]. 7. As mentioned in point #6, the fact that canonical texts assert that Yoda could outspar Mace Windu would surely cut down that "near 100%" to something a bit more modest. Yoda's acrobatic skills would also be on par, if not out-match Mace Windu's attempts to outmaneuver Yoda. 8. To use one of pro's previous arguments against himself, Yoda is NOT a battle droid, and therefore would not be as easily captured and killed. 9. Yoda only "failed", because he had to save Obi-wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker from being crushed by a very large pillar which Dooku had allowed to fall on them in an attempt to escape possible defeat by Yoda [5]. 10. While Yoda may not be a distinguished pilot, he still is very strong in the Force as mentioned earlier with notable examples against huge transport vessels. 11. While Yoda is not known to have used two lightsabers at once, he has disarmed Asajj Ventress, a Sith who utilized two lightsabers in combat, therefore showing that Yoda could spar with a person using more than one lightsaber by disarming them [6]. 12. Considering Yoda's position as a general, I will assert that Yoda is most likely an excellent strategist during a duel as well. 13. While pro insists that Yoda's age compromises him, during the Duel in the Senate Yoda is clearly capable of jumping and flipping around with ease, even though he is many centuries old at this point [8]. 14. This point is so if and only if the duel is drawn out. Obviously, Yoda would not have lived to the age he did if he allowed duels to go on past when his energy reserves would be depleted. Yoda's Force Powers I reiterate the aforementioned quote from the Power of the Jedi Sourcebook to show evidence that Yoda alone could defeat Dooku. While pro once again asserts that I did not address one of his points, I actually did in the earlier round: "While pro asserts that Mace Windus' greater range of force powers puts him at an advantage against Yoda, I shall assert that this is not a valid point. During the First Battle of Geonosis Yoda and Count Dooku face off, and even though Dooku is a skilled master of telekinesis and a Sith lord, thereby giving him an even greater range of abilities than either Yoda or Mace Windu, Count Dooku realizes that he cannot win against Yoda and flees the building (and the planet)." While pro asserts that such a superconducting loop was the result of Vaapad, he asserts no evidence of it. Vaapad is an aggressive technique, whereas the loop appeared to be almost purely defensive [9]. Therefore pro's entire rebuttal lies upon a baseless assumption. While pro asserts that conscious decisions negate actions as being discredited as mere byproducts, that would be like saying that if I consciously went out in a thunderstorm with a metal rod to get struck by lightning, my conscious decision to do so negates the fact that the properties of the metal rod and the current state of the weather affected the chances of be getting struck by lightning. Yoda's Lightsaber Abilities While I cannot deny that Yoda is not a master of the Vaapad subset, Yoda has (as shown by the battle between him and Count Dooku proven that a wider range of abilities doesn't necessarily give you an advantage in battle. Still again pro asserts that I drop points when I don't. I encourage the voters to note these false statements. While Ataru may tire Yoda out quickly, Yoda should know enough about other forms of lightsaber combat and his opponent (as asserted earlier, Windu was one of Yoda's apprentices) to account for this. While pro points out how the quick escape was fortunate, it is never asserted as to why it was fortunate, and therefore no conclusions can be drawn off of that statement. Yoda's Past Feats Pro holds that both are on equal footing as far as military rank is concerned. Pro again asserts that Mace Windu is stronger in the Force than Yoda, however this is mos likely not so as previously stated with Yoda's feats of the Force with the landing craft. Still, yet again, pro asserts points are dropped when they are not. It is never asserted as to whether or not Yoda needed the help, so such a point is moot. Pro asserts a source which doesn't appear with regards to the assistance that the clones gave. Pro holds that Mace Windu and Yoda are on equal footing for the escape of Order 66. Mace Windu Pro does not assert what the false premise was, nor state why the difference in time is relevant. While pro attempts to defend the attack by Anakin as being outflanked, this clearly shows that pro's aforementioned statement that Mace Windu can easily outflank his opponents by using Swift Flank is weak at best. While pro states that Mace Windu came closer to defeating Sidious than Yoda, in the end, both still failed at the task, and therefore are on equal footing for such a task. While pro asserts that Yoda "should have done better in the open...", better implies that Yoda's fight against Sidious was relatively worse than a previous fight, even though no other fight between Sidious and Yoda is known to have occurred, and therefore it cannot be asserted that Yoda did better or worse against Sidious. 1. http://starwars.wikia.com... (In the "Chronological and political information" section under his picture) 2. http://starwars.wikia.com... 3. http://starwars.wikia.com... 4. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mace_Windu#Lightsaber_training 5. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku#Confrontation_with_the_Jedi 6. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Asajj_Ventress#Rusgosa 7. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yoda#Duel_in_the_Senate 8. http://www.youtube.com... Video #1 (4:30-4:45) 9. http://starwars.wikia.com...