The earth is flat

First, the personal journals that people have been writter were made by deceit. These people that claim they have gone around the world are either lying for the fame and glory of it, or they themselves are being deceived by others. In your first speech, you said if YOU had the money to go around the world you would have. You have not and therefore you couldn't have experienced these things first handed. Next onto the stars argument. Yes, we can map our position from the stars, but that is only because the universe itself is in constant motion. The universe itself follows special patterns due to gravity. Again, onto your arguments bout the boat and how if you go to a high point you can see it again. You answered your own argument because the earth itself has "ripples" on the surface. Furthermore though, whenever the phenomenon happes, it can also be due to the movements of the tectonic plates as they are trying to form around a "central point"* (see bottom paragraph for more info). And, pictures are taken at different angles of space, that is why we see parts of the world at different angles. I don't know about you, but I have photoshop on my computer! But, ocular distortion still proves because it isn't an "anamoly", but rather it is the way that the cameras were designed. The earth is three-dimesional. Anything that has volume is three-dimenstional. The earth is cylindrical with huge mountains sticking out of the bottom. We wouldn't be able to mine for gold and other natural resources if the earth was as thin as a sheet of paper. But to further answer this question, do refer to my final paragraph. Again on the shadow argument. The sun takes a two-part orbital around the earth where it is never, ever directly above the earth but rather at different angles. It goes in a diagonal ring one way around the earth, and then another way. The sun orbits the erath a lot faster than "we orbit the sun" (according to your theory.) "2-D maps are convinent and easier than globes and again, are from a different time." Precisely, why haven't we changed our maps from a different time period if they are oriented in a more 2-D way? We haven't because the earth is flat! Final Paragraph: There are a plethora of what we commonly call central points of gravitation that the earth is constantly trying to form itself around. This a) explains tectonic plate shifts b) explains why we have shadows c) shows why we can see certain objects sinking away into the sunset from higher points d) explains how gravity is equal everywhere. e) shows more accurately how dormant volcanoes react while others aren't f) explains tsunamis. The reason why the earth has not formed around any one point is because the other points are constantly pulling the earth in other ways. The earth has not ripped apart yet because of magma and lava that continues to "repair" the earth. It just makes more logical sense that the earth is flat. P.S. The stars move around each other, whichever one has the strongest gravitational pull based on the distance shows this. The sun itself moves around the earth while the erath is moving and the planets revolve around the sun. Extending Framework: Whoever can defend their position the best should win the round. This is the only way someone should vote. I hope this is fair framework and also hope that my advocate does not have a problem with this.