Gay Rights

I will state again that marriage is not a religious ritual. The celebration of the marriage, the marriage traditions, the pope saying the “you may kiss the bride” all can be religious. But what I meant to say was that what you said in round 1, “Marriage is a religious ritual since civil unions exist.” Was untrue since any couple (that was not gay) could get legally married without religion. I was confused when you still denied this by saying, “Marriage has both legal and religious connotation while civil unions only has a legal one.” part of this is true because marriage can have both legal and religious connotation, but it can also have only legal, as I previously made clear. This statement is also untrue since civil unions can be religious. They can have a celebration, in a church with the pope and everything, bonding them together with a civil union. Now we have made clear that marriage and civil union are both legal, and they both can be religious. I noticed that this was the main point of your response by stating that marriage is a religious ritual and I have just classified that it isn’t. You stated that “The government can pass legislature granting gays in civil union the same benefits as a married couple.” So if marriage and civil union can be the exact same, why are they both existent? Is it just to separate us from the gays so that they feel different? The main cause of gay rights is to get equality with everyone else and not feel different anymore. You are proposing that we give them civil union and that it should have exactly everything that marriage has except that it isn’t marriage. It’s like asking, “Can I have an apple?” and you reply with, “No, but you can have an opple, it is the exact same except a different name.” You must understand that this is just a metaphor to help you understand my position. I would like to hear a valid reason of why they can’t have an apple (marriage) but why they should have an opple (civil union.) Besides based on religion. Also you stated that, “Therefore, claiming that the government is corrupt is inaccurate.”I was only speculating on the point of why the government hasn’t granted gay marriage. I was speculating that it may be because of religion as I mentioned just earlier. If it was then that would be incorrect of the government and corrupt of them to make a law based on a specific religious belief. You stated, “I am saying that they should only be denied marriage in name.” I would like to hear a valid reason for denying gays marriage in name because you mention this many times but never give a logical reason for it. “This is a fallacy as you make the assumption that there isn't a single gay person that wants to enter in a civil union.” I never said that gays don’t want a civil union but it is a fact that more than 10 million Americans want to get married. “Gay and Lesbian Americans Tell Researchers They Plan To Get Married - Estimated 10 Million Want To Say 'I Do'” from the website: http://www.outnowconsulting.com...-'i-do' I guess my conclusion for this response is why make civil union the exact same as marriage besides trying to make gays feel different? If they will be the exact same, why make them different besides being predjudice and discriminating against gays?