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"Picture this image for me…a fetus or baby, whatever word you would like to use, with fingers, toes, fingernails, toenails, limbs, etcf, eatures me and you have- and then … The D&X abortion procedure itself is rather gruesome. The abortion practitioner instrumentally reaches into the uterus, grasps the fetus' feet, and pulls the feet down into the cervix. Often, especially in younger fetuses, limbs are ripped off bodies during the procedure. Once the fetus has been delivered except for the head, surgical scissors are forced into the base of the fetal skull and the its brains are sucked out. The baby is then delivered dead. The entire procedure is almost always performed on the fetus without the use of anesthesia. " --> Appeal to emotion does not override scientific fact. I could describe step by step the process of excretion, but it doesn't take away from what excretion, in scientific terms, is. Furthermore, my opponent is giving a very misleading picture of abortion. There are many forms of abortion, including non-surgical abortion, all detailed here: . http://www.fwhc.org... "Both the women and the pre-born are affected by abortion. The baby has no choice, voice, anything in the decision made on the abortion. Biologically, human life begins at the single cell stage (fertilization) when sperm and egg join. There is no question that the fetus is fully human and a member of the human family. Intentionally killing any human at any stage is wrong. " --> The foetus is not a human. As aforementioned, it is basically a clump of tissue for 5 weeks until it develop the ability to feel pain, have a heartbeat, etc. Making the point of conception the point where human life forms is opening the way for ridiculous laws. What next, banning the act of masturbation? A fused egg and sperm is not a human. Furthermore, a foetus is reliant on it's mother for air, food, etc. , essentially, the ability for it to live. Insofar as that, a foetus is a parasite. Because the foetus is a parasite, the mother is killing a part of her which she had no say in whether or not it should be there. The foetus is essentially an extension of the mother util birth, and therefore the mother is the foetus voice. "Because the pre-born baby is a human, abortion is a human rights issue. Human life- from fertilization to natural death- holds intrinsic and inestimable worth apart from how old you are and where you live. " --> I just proved how it isn't a human. "•The heart is formed before nineteen days. There are heart cells before activity •www. acog. org ( more credible than your wikipedia sources) You go on saying that my points are irrelevant, although they defend my case and go against your points. These points are very relevant to the argument of abortion. " --> Firstly, www. acog. com leads me to the homepage, you're going to have to show me the specific page on the matter. Secondly, if the heart does indeed form in 19 days, then abortion is justified within 19 days. Thirdly, your points on the origin of the word foetus was irrelevant modern day meaning, and the part on dolphins was also irrelevant because I never said dolphins should be protected. "Protecting human life- It is the core of the argument. Abortion is the taking away of human life. " --> No, it's taking away a clump of cells up until 5 weeks. "•Having another baby- This is an irrelevant argument. Who cares if you can have another baby, that does not take away for killing a baby before. " --> This was in context of a mothers life versus a foetus' potential life. Don't take it out of context. "Feeling pain- yes" --> The article actually says "Try sticking an 8 week old human foetus in the palm of his hand. He opens his mouth and pulls his hand away. " implying a baby can only feel hen it's 8 weeks old, an improvement on my 5 weeks :). "A recent study examined the question of fetal pain through the direct measurement of cortical brain responses in premature infants. Using real-time near-infrared spectroscopy, blood flow in the contralateral somatosensory cortex of the brain was measured during routine blood draws. The results showed that cortical blood flow was significantly elevated in infants as young as 25 weeks gestational age during needle puncture to draw blood. It was also noted that cortical brain response was higher in awake infants than those who were asleep. These results showed that the fetal brain can detect pain at least at 25 weeks of age. Since no premature infants were younger than 25 weeks, it did not determine the earliest age at which the fetus would feel pain. oThe Journal of Neuroscience 26: 3662-3666. " --> 25 weeks, an even bigger improvement. Remember, I have to only defend certain forms of abortion, you want it outlawed completley. Panda