Riggs V's Palmer

(14) It was not guaranteed that the murderer was going to outlive the testator or that the murderer would have got his rewards at all. This is controversial because one cannot assume that the testator was going to live longer than the murderer or whether the murderer would have died before the testator and he would have not been able to claim his rewards from the will. However, it is as you had said before, you are right in which we might now be able to assume that the grandson would have died before the grandfather, but things do happen. You cannot say that it is not possible either. Those were just a few examples that seem likely that may happen that would have affected the will. Accidents happen everyday to people and you never know when an accident can literally kill someone. That could have happened in this case with the defendant but even if you do not assume it could happen, the murder crime it self is another example of how things could happen. What id the scenario would have been changed and flipped and instead of the grandfather being killed by the grandson, now the grandfather kills the grandson. Now the will would have to be changed because the defendant would have been dead and now he does get rewarded for anything because obviously you cannot reward a dead person. (15) Palmer could have been taken off the will or maybe have died before his grandfather died. This is controversial because we cannot predict the future and assume that Palmer would have been removed from the will or that he maybe would have passed away before his grandfather- It is like you said in your part of the argument we do not know for sure who would have outlived who naturally, however the defendant still took the role of ending the life of the grandfather which looks more of a forcible action than the "what-if?" ways I had used. The defendant wanted his property so bad that he killed for it to get it and then you don't call that a forced action? If anybody is forcing the will on any grounds it is the defendant. Whenever someone forces an action to happen it is because they wanted that action to happen their way. In this case the defendant wanted his property, poisoned his grandfather, and now is expecting to get his reward of the grandfather's property after committing a crime to get it? It is an outrages reward, especially because it is not right that a person should be rewarded for killing someone. There are many crimes committed today in which, people commit crimes to get a certain belonging, object or monetary reward for themselves. Some of the cases involve armed robberies and sometimes the armed robbers end up killing the person or group they were trying to rob and run with whatever they able to find or maybe whatever they were looking for. That is similar to this case in which the defendant knew what he wanted, he wanted the grandfather's promised land from the will. Except in this case, there was no actual robbery due to the fact that the grandfather was going to give it to the grandson. But now what if the grandfather would have changed his mind and would have given his land to someone else? now it could possibly be considered robbery because he would have killed his grandfather just so that he can take the land. As for your questions, Those "ways" as you call it that I proposed as examples were just ways that could have possibly happened that could have changed the will. I was not trying to force anything. This case deals with whether or not the defendant will be allowed to be given his reward that has been encrypted into the will by his deceased grandfather. There is no type of force at all from any side of trying to make the defendant lose any reward you believe he deserves. The point is, why is it ok to reward this defendant for an evil doing that he did especially when it is from the person that he killed? It is not right to reward someone for a wrong and there are many people that commit evil doings and do not get any type of reward at all. why should he get his reward especially after what he did?