Resolved: Unwanted Pregnancy Abortions should be banned in the US.

I agree with kcirrone. The debate does come down to the simple question, is the fetus evil. Everything else is pretty much irrelevant at this point. So first, the issue of slavery. And oh boy, this is gonna be funny: "The Slave analogy can only work if there is an absence of love. A slave probably doesn't love the one who whips him. But a baby is a creation of the mother and the mother's love.There is a big difference. And I'm sure the debate community sees this." So.. let me get this straight ... We should Not allow the mother to Terminate the fetus ... because the mother ... who wants to terminate the fetus ... actually loves the fetus. Even though ... she wants to terminate the pregnancy... And because she actually loves the fetus, despite wanting to terminate it's life ... I think at the point where the pregnancy becomes UNWANTED (as the resolution states), we've reached this hurdle of the "absence of love." ----------------------------------- "The slave analogy only works in the case of rape. If the mother wasn't raped, then she has openly put herself into a "slave" situation." So kcirrone admits that a pregnancy is the equivalent of a slave labor. The only distinction he makes is it's Okay to be a slave if you openly put yourself into a slave situation. #1: But that's just it ... many women with an UNWANTED PREGNANCY are women who DO NOT, DID NOT, and NEVER WANTED to be a slave. Ignoring rape, they probably just wanted to have sex. But why should wanting to have sex condemn them to slavery? That's like saying an African wanted to be a slave because he wandered outside of his village, an action which he knew to increase the likelihood of him being captured and sold. So therefore, he deserves his slavery. #2: AND WHAT ABOUT IN THE INSTANCES OF RAPE??? "And when that happens, the right to life must supersede that of w/e right the mother wishes to defend, e.g. right to privacy." I don't usually curse... but WTF? Defend the right to privacy? What about the right to freedom?? The right to life gives the fetus the right to enslave the mother? So let me get this straight ... if I was dying ... and the only way I can survive is to get YOUR kidney, does my right to life supersede your right to the use of YOUR ORGANS? Because that's the only explanation isn't it? IF a woman is raped and you think the fetus' right to live trumps her right to use her organs, why shouldn't my right to live trump your right to use Your organs? ------------------------------------------------------------ At this point, the debate clearly belongs to Con. But there's one more point I've yet to conclude. The evil fetus. If you are a devout Christian, then an unbaptized human is guilty of original sin. It means he/she is Not innocent. That does not in and of itself make the fetus evil, it just makes the fetus not innocent. This is meant as an argument only for those who are devout Christians. Now onto the meat of why the fetus is evil: It has already been conceded that the fetus is the equivalent of a slave master. ("the slave analogy only works in the case of rape.") I believe slave masters are evil. Furthermore, I've offered this unchallenged definition of what it means to be an evil person: "An Evil person is one who is callously indifferent to the well being or suffering of others. He/She is self interested in the extreme and will pursue their self interest even at the extreme pain and suffering of others. He/She is utterly bereft of compassion, even when it comes to individuals to those they owe tremendous obligations." Since the fetus matches this description perfectly (and since kcirrone did not challenge my description) the fetus is therefore evil. And if the fetus is evil, as we agreed upon at the beginning of round 3, the mother should have the power to choose if she WANTS to make the sacrifice of her freedom and her organs to raise and try to rehabilitate this evil. The mother's choice and no one else's. ------------------------------------- Thank you for the debate kcirrone. And P.S. look at my profile picture