It is Logically Impossible for God to Have Perfect Foreknowledge

Dialogue on Debate Structure I thought Iwas . Take the heading “contradictions” for example, in it I disputed that contradictions were possible. As I said “For your arguments to work “logically” you would have to prove that a God can’t create a contradiction though his omnipotent power.” That is an argument. Under Preeminence “It would be a simple paradox, I don’t see why a god can’t pull off a paradox.” That is also an argument. If it’s not I simply don’t know what is an argument. If you’re wanting more new arguments, I argue from scripture, as Jesus said “For nothing will be impossible with God.” Luke 1:37. Therefore it follows that it’s logically not impossible with God to have perfect foreknowledge. My second argument is an argument from my own knowledge. I know that omnipotence can do all things, therefore whoever wields the power of omnipotence, nothing is logically impossible. If something is possible, it is logically possible. From these two arguments I know I’m right with certainty. Rebuttals 1. Omnipotence 1a. Free Will Okay I’ll agree that god can choose anything. In my mind omnipotence really doesn’t give you free will without another free will agent, if you give it to a toaster doesn’t mean it goes Anthropomorphic. But I know that God has will, not sure how free it is, but I’ll just go ahead and assume that it is sense it is the popular consent that God does have free will in theism. 1b. Preeminence Being omnipotent makes it possible for more omnipotence to exist. Omnipotence can do anything, otherwise its restricted and not omnipotence. 2. Perfect Foreknowledge Well it does matter, if perfect foreknowledge changes from perfect to imperfect or vice versa. Omnipotence can do it. 3. Contradictions That’s not necessarily true that contradictions are logically impossible because of the existence of God. Saying something that is logically impossible is saying that it can’t happen, but if omnipotence is true, nothing is really impossible. There’s some logic behind it Agreement 1 → God ExistsAgreement 2 → God is omnipotentAgreement 3 → Omnipotence can do all thingsAgreement 4 → Omnipotence can create a contradiction.Agreement 5 → If contradictions can be created, therefore contradictions are logically possibleAgreement 6 → Contradictions can happen though omnipotence Agreement :::) Contradictions are logically possible Of which of these agreements do you object to? They all stem from the existence of God. And if you disagree with agreement 1 (God’s existence), then I can fiat your objection out of the debate through the establishments of round 1 in which was stated “For the purposes of this debate, it will be assumed that God exists.” So you can’t really object to the first agreement. If you’re saying that contradictions are logically impossible, 3a. Restriction Pro: Impossible, if his foreknowledge is perfect... Your defining perfection as “can’t deviate”. But say “can’t become imperfect” aren’t true about perfect entities. For example, a perfect apple can become spoiled through worms, rendering it imperfect. Does this mean that the apple can’t be initially perfect at some point in time? NO! It was perfect at one point until worms deviated it to imperfection. Likewise, God’s decisions can be thought like the worm converting the state of the apple. When a worm does not eat a perfect apple, the apple remains perfect, likewise if God chooses not to change what he foreknows, it remains perfect. On the other hand if the worm does devour the apple, it becomes imperfect. If God chooses to deviate from what he foreknows that foreknowledge becomes imperfect. In my mind if God chooses from a specific foreknowledge to deviate from that foreknowledge becomes imperfect, but if he doesn’t then that foreknowledge remains perfect. Keep in mind that the resolution states “It is Logically Impossible for God to Have Perfect Foreknowledge”, I see no rule that states God can’t have both perfect and imperfect foreknowledge. So God can have both perfect and imperfect knowledge, he simply chooses which ones are perfect, and which ones that aren’t. Yeah, I know, God is that awesome. As to god can’t think about it. I’m not sure why God’s cognitive functions can’t handle an infinite amount of foreknowledge, he’s omnipotent after all. Pro: If Con’s foreknowledge... When you foreknow something, it doesn’t necessary change the capabilities or free will of other individuals. For example at a salad line a lady chooses to put pickles, ham, cheese, and salad dressing on their salad. If I foreknew that the person did not put on say tomatoes, does that mean she did not have the ability to pick tomatoes? No! She “can” in that moment, but she choose not to. Foreknowledge doesn’t restrict free will, nor does it force it, it’s simply knowledge ahead of time, the lady we know could have picked tomatoes, I just simply knew she wouldn’t before it happened. Theoretically, foreknowledge could be used to influence freewill, but not necessarily set rules. Like I could suggest to the lady to pick tomatoes, and give her statistics on how much, but my foreknowledge doesn’t control her like a robot in which robs her of free will, it just simply knows what is being picked ahead of time. Pro: We are not talking about desire; we are talking about ability. As previously covered, perfect foreknowledge restricts God’s ability. I’m interpreting “restrict” as cannot happen. No, foreknowledge doesn’t restrict ability. It restricts nothing. I know I have the ability to jump off the Sears Tower and not to jump off the sears tower, if you foreknew that I would jump off does that mean that I didn’t have a choice in the matter not to jump off? NO! it just simply means that it would happen. 3b1. It Existed Infinitely with God I was pointing out that you were making the assumption that whatever god eternally had his abilities. Can you back up that claim? It’s an assumption so you can’t. Note the definition “omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent” It says nothing about a god is required to be eternal, or his abilities had to always be with him. So why does whatever god had foreknowledge in the infinite past? Also to note, free will isn’t even listed as a requirement for god, so a god without free will to begin with could certainly pull it off. 3b3. Someone Else Gave it to Him Low on text, refuting elsewhere Dialogue on Perfect Foreknowledge Yes, it does matter. For example, right now I can “pickup” up a gun and blow my brains out, however I “won’t” because I have no desire to do so. Does this mean that I don’t have the power to do so? NO! I can pickup a gun whenever and blow my brains out. Likewise, God can blow out his brains, does this mean that he will ever blow out his brains? No, it simply means that he has the power to do so. It doesn’t matter if you had foreknowledge or not, in the past you had abilities and free will, foreknowledge just simply knows the outcome, it doesn’t change the fact you had free will and abilities in the past. back on you, Pro.