Did Jesus Exist

"First of all, the Jews wouldn't violate the Mitzvah, we 're incapable of it, so not only is it unlikely that we killed Jesus, it's also impossible, especially considering how it was the Romans." In other words, a Jew can't break the commandments of God? Which is completely false, otherwise there wouldn't be any separation of God and Man in the first place, but this is a theological issue not a historical one. "Number two, the Romans wouldn't execute someone unless there were some kind of hearing, and there wasn't, thus, it is impossible for him to have been executed." I don't understand how you can claim anything to be impossible? Something can be more probable/improbable but to claim something is impossible, is equivalent of claiming 100% knowledge, and secondly, where is the source of information for this? Can you provide me evidence that Roman Executions always needed trials? We see constant persecutions of minority groups such as the Christians during Roman times without having any trials? Can you provide the contrary? In addition to this, there is multiple attestation from the gospels, which are the earliest accounts of Jesus' life, which demonstrate Jesus did have a trial or hearing, something that doesn't press any doctrine onto the reader. "Secondly, the BOP is on you to prove Jesus was real, I proved that there is no proof that he ever existed, and since if he existed there would be proof, we may conclude that he never existed." So far all you have try to deal with is minor issues, where I haven't seen you sight one historian or ancient writing at the time to support your case, what have you proven? You haven't actually dealt with the gospels, or Tacitus' writings or the 40 other mentions within 150 years of his life? Until you start to show that the gospels have no truth, zero, you haven't proved anything. So In your next argument, I want you to thoroughly debunk the Gospels Reliability, otherwise they still stand, along with multiple other writings, as evidence for the existence of Jesus. We? If your'e referring to scholars and historians academics with relevant fields, then you're in a serious minority, I can only think of a handful out of the thousands of scholars who deny the existence of Jesus or cast doubt, in fact the amount of historians and scholars, who deny Jesus' existence, is as much as those who deny the holocaust, it's beyond academic discussion. This doesn't prove he existed, but if you believe in the contrary you must present some pretty damn good evidence to debunk it. The idea of Jesus existing, was present in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or even 5th century, the first time his existence was even questioned was 1800 years later, surprisingly, attacks on Christianity had nothing to do with whether or he existed, but if he was God etc. and why is this? Most likely, because the amount of documentation was so much greater then and even today, the sources overwhelmingly support the view of a figure called Jesus. "Alexander the great left lasting landmarks as well as brought Greek influence to Egypt which thus proves he existed." To bring up influence of Alexander the Great to prove his existence, doesn't come close to the influence of a Jewish carpenter in 1st century Palestine, none of it proves the existence of a Character, Jesus influenced the whole of the Roman Empire by the 4th century, and caused Christianity to grow, but Nero's reign (60s AD) not just in Judea, but widespread as far as Rome, There a early christian writings in the 2nd century as far as Syria, Turkey, Egypt etc etc. "Thirdly, towns in the 1st century Palestine were not illiterate, Jews always knew how to read and write, they never forgot. So they wouldn't need scribes." "The most thorough examination of literacy in Palestine is by a professor of Jewish studies at the University of London, Catherine Hezser, who shows that in the days of Jesus probably only 3 percent of Jews in Palestine were literate." The vast majority of Jesus' followers were fisherman and those living in Poverty, they certainly wouldn't be able to read and write during the early years of Christianity, until the following grew to the extent, where schooling was available and scribes such as Silas, the scribe of Peter's letters in the 60s AD. "and Paul's letters don't count as records, in fact there is a lot of evidence that your entire Non-Testament was tampered with by Constantine," Explain why and with sources, how a contemporary writer who lived at the time and place of the supposed figure, met with Jesus' brother and disciples, a convert, from Judaism who in many letters, show very little interests in promoting an agenda, take Galatians, doesn't count as records, you couldn't get much more reliable if you tried. Secondly, the New Testament has by far of the greatest manuscript attribution in ancient history, Here is a list of Writings around the same time of the Gospels, with there earliest and manuscript tradition, and I'm also going to include the Old Testament (Torah) Tacitus we have 20 manuscripts dating 1000 years after his life Suetonius we have 8 manuscripts dating 800 years after his life Caesar we have 10 manuscripts dating 1000 years after his life Before the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls the Earliest Manuscripts we had for the Old Testament, dated to after the 1st century, or centuries after, they provide us with pre 1st century writings, remarkable, but compared to the New Testament, it's a no contest. New Testament 5800 Greek Manuscripts alone, 24,000 in other languages, earliest copy, depending on the dating of Gospel of John 25-50 years. In fact, by the turn of the 3rd century, we can construct the majority of the New Testament, including whole gospels, way before Constantine. There are quotations also from early church fathers, dating to the 1st and 2nd century. Please provide evidence for the contrary. "Moshe and Avram they also have been proven, why then can't Jesus be? And why does your belief get to be "true until proven wrong" that's not how it works, claims are to be false until proven true, something you failed to fulfil." Actually, Moses and I guess that's Abraham, have no sources outside the Penateacuh for hundreds of years, historians highly doubt their existence, unlike Jesus who even atheist scholars believe existed, due to multiple attestation from numerous sources of different locations and opinions, we have 4x more sources for Jesus than Emperor Tiberius within 150 years. "there 3 million witnesses of G-d giving Moshe the Torah on mount Sinia" It's obvious you're just talking out of your mouth, you can't historically demonstrate this even occurred, whilst Jesus is easily demonstrable due to multiple sources from followers of Jesus, there followers, Jews such as Josephus, Tacitus the greatest Roman Historian of all time, Pliny the Younger a Roman writer it goes on and on. Your last part of the argument went off on a tangent, which doesn't matter, so im not going to even talk about it. So again, to disprove the existence of Jesus, please refute the gospels 100% unreliability. Oh, and as you're jewish here are two Jewish sources about Jesus Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, , a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was called the Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross,[9] those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for they say he appeared to them alive again the third day;[10] . And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day. Josephus, Jewish Historian during 1st century, born in Pharisee family "On the eve of the Passover Yeshua was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, 'He is going forth to be stoned because he has practised sorcery and enticed Israel to apostacy." JEWISH TALMUD Sanhedrin 43a, Yeshua or Joshua in English, is the Hebrew name for the Greek name Jesus.