LGBT People Should Have Equal Rights

CON: "There is no equal anyone. It doesn't exist, nor should it" REBUTTAL: You've taken a different interpretation to this sentence than I had intended, none the less I had left it very vague. To clarify I meant equality in reference to their rights. Men and women should never have their respective rights taken away based on sexual orientation. The gender of the person they choose to love, sleep with, or live with should have no bounds on their individual rights. And further more it is unjust and unrighteous that there are not laws currently in place to protect those of the LGBT community from discrimination. CON: "If the LGBT community wants "equal rights" they must fight for them" REBUTTAL: I do not disagree the world is full of many different types of people being discriminated against and if any group of people wants to make a change they have to fight against the ones who are keeping them from their rights. I did not mean to imply that it was easy to get equal rights. I did not say there would not have to be sacrifices made for the cause of justice. I only mean to say it is unjust that it is the way of the world. Discrimination: "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person belongs rather than on INDIVIDUAL MERIT"(capitalized for emphasis) [www.dictionary.com/browse/discrimination] My reasoning behind the unjustness of it is made from the definition of discrimination above. When the bases of why you don't allow equal rights to a person is based simply on the persons beliefs or the group they belong to, but has nothing to do with their merits as an individual that is the unjustice. If a group of people is seen as a danger to the social order and we'll being of others than special consideration should be given to see if they are truly a danger before we strip rights away from them. However, we have been working backwards, stripping the rights away from a group before they are proven dangerous and then fighting the groups who call for unjustice until enough blood and tears have been shed that they are given back the rights they should have always had. That is the way of today's world and the LGBT community needs to continue their fight if they ever wish to step above the discrimination, but I argue that there is no question about the unjustness of their situation. CON: "The black rights and female movments appealed to the conscience of America, to the minset of the majority." REBUTTAL: Yes it is a statistical fact that the majority of the American people identify themselves as Christian. This however makes it even more unjust that discrimination is continued against anyone. You stated the Christian supposed beliefs quite well I remark back to (John 13:34) (Matthew 7:1) (Luke 6:37). All the quations are examples that if Christians truly are the ones in control then regardless of how the LGBT community has acted it is nothing short of blasphemy to deny a gay man the same rights as a straight man. It is blasphemy to deny rights to anyone for any reason any where if a person is following the beliefs of the bible. However, there seems to be an impression that the LGBT community has failed to try and takes sides or appeal to Christians below I give examples of associations and groups who have tried to find a path both Christians and LGBT community members could follow. 1. http://www.gaychurch.org... 2. https://www.believeoutloud.com... 3. http://www.gaychristian101.com... Unless their is warrant in the Christian religion to make claim that only special groups deserve the forgiveness, kindness, and acceptance that is so heavily claimed in the bible to be included in the lives of any true Christian then I claim descriminating against any group is unchristian and therfore any person who fights for laws that are discriminatory are not a true Christians. MAIN REBUTTAL: There is no excuse for discrimination against the LGBT community. It is true there are extremist groups that spread violence and hate, but those groups discriminate against others to fit their agenda and they reside on both sides of the argument. These groups who presue discrimination are unjust, just as creating discriminatory laws or refusing to create laws that prevent discrimination is unjust. Christians have the right to preach their beliefs and dislike any groups they wish. Freedom of speech is a right by law, but forcing an agenda on a country to descriminate against any group without just cause or merit is an evil agenda."