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There is no point in doing anything.

Good evening.Today two amateur debaters will discuss the topic of the century. What is the purpose of our existence? Is it worth it to even make an impression on our constantly dying society? In the first round of this informal debate, I will establish my stance on this topic. We can clash the next two rounds. Please note that this debate will be more like a discussion, so please discard formalities and general conduct rules that apply to other debates, such as the naming of contentions, so forth so forth. Begin!My grandfather once told me the meaning of life. Of course, I was dying to know what it is. Who wouldn't? I had heard approximately two answers to this question in my short time on earth. One was "42", and the other was from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. Try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations.Of course, these two explanations of the question are jokes. Here is what my grandfather said to me:The meaning of life is that it ends.At first I didn't understand. Was my grandfather instilling an old man's morbid views of the coming of death? Or was he, too, playing a joke on me?Only now I realize what he meant. We have to make the most of our stay here on planet earth. We only have a limited amount of time to read all the great novels and see the wonders of the world. Would you rather live your life a shriveled up cynic who wastes his precious time being bitter about "the point of it all", or would you rather suck all the juice out of the orange of life, so that the orange itself is shriveled. I call this the "shriveled orange" metaphor. Oranges are also delicious. Go figure.My point is, the point of our existence is self-fullfillment. We exist simply as scientific matter. What separates us from animals is our miraculous conscious of mind, that exists in no other creatures. Should we take advantage of our presence of being and live a good life, or should we dismiss it is having no point and do nothing with our lives.The topic is "There is no point in doing anything." What if the point isn't to make an impression to society, but to make an impression on ourselves?
There is no point in doing anything.

Let's face it, there is no "in the long run." As John Maynard Keynes said, "In the long run, we are all dead." So why make an impression on a crowd that will, in the long run, die out? This website won't remain on the web. Civilization will inevitably die off, power will be lost, the world will explode. This very argument won't be remembered as, "The discussion that saved the universe!" Maybe there is some self-fulfillment involved, but, as I have stated many times, we will all be dead. That feeling of accomplishment will die down quickly. Unless there is an afterlife (something I don't believe there is) to aspire towards, there is no point in doing something for the "greater good". That said, there is no point in doing "evil" things either. Not only will your good deeds be for naught, but there won't even be any good deeds to be remembered by. Let that sink in.
should children be allowed to sleep in school

A big issue you didn't address in your argument is the obvious problem of taxpayer dollars being funneled into school systems that count children as being present when them being asleep is as good as being absent. This being said that doesn't necessarily make or break the argument for sleeping in class. Though I am contradicting myself here I believe that there are two kinds of students that sleep 1: the lazy ones 2: the tired onesThis is't necessarily a contradiction in my eyes, but I'm fairly certain a system of splitting sleeping students into 2 groups, either lazy or legitimately tired isn't going to work.1: What creates the distinction between a "lazy" and a "tired" student?2: What prevents students from lying about their sleep habits, or how tired they really are?3: What prevents the teachers of the school from unfairly categorizing or showing bias towards students they don't like by labeling them as a "lazy" student? [1]I suggest that we instead start our school day later by and hour or so to allow our students more resting time.I think this is a fair solution, but the issue sits rooted deeper than that. I can vouch from personal experiences of both myself and those close to me that the amount of work public schools, primarily High Schools force upon their students is enough to literally drive them mad. I have seen too many times someone close to me being forced to pull all-nighters, not even being ALLOWED to sleep because of the extreme amount of work that the schools assign in the name of "learning". I think common core being widely adopted contributes to this difficulty but that's an entirely seperate issue on it's own. The issue of sleep isn't going to be anywhere near solved until the teachers, and the administrators of the schools themselves realize that they are forcing burdens on their students that absolutely wreck mental health.a study found that 49 percent of students reported feeling “a great deal of stress” on a daily basis. Half reported doing three or more hours of homework per night, and 26 percent noted that they had been diagnosed with depression—over four times the national average of 6 percent.https://www.theatlantic.com...On top of this ever present issue in the public schooling system the schools themselves do nothing to help counsel or relieve these levels of stress and mental exhaustion. I think that instead of study hall periods being for mandatory work periods they should offer an option for students to catch up on sleep during them, rather than be punished.This being said, I do NOT believe that stuents should be able to sleep whenever and wherever they wish in school, there just needs to be either a designated time or a period of time in which that is a viable option for the students. Telling students to go to bed earlier does not work, just due to the psychology of the teenage brain and the fact that homework can pile so high that your high school takes away your liberty to sleep at night. When this cycle happens, the more work you give the student and the less rest time they get the worse the issue is going grow, and it is growing exponentially.
should children be allowed to sleep in school

Thank you Cakerman. You bring up some very valid points. This being said I don't necessarily think that we should just let any student fall asleep. Though I am saying that if a student is exhausted that maybe allowing them to sleep isn't that bad. Though I am contradicting myself here I believe that there are two kinds of students that sleep 1: the lazy ones 2: the tired ones I can understand wanting students to learn and the fact of our school systems starting too early. I suggest that we instead start our school day later by and hour or so to allow our students more resting time. Though since I doubt that the school systems would allow it. Because of this students will continue to fall asleep. I also think that the school system should take into consideration sleeping disorders that prevent students from sleeping. Either way in the end students should be allowed to sleep and if not be sent home to sleep or start getting punished but considering the crap system of education we already have i doubt it. Ending statement just let them sleep so only the present AND awake will succeed
should children be allowed to sleep in school

For this first bit I should like to say this: Regardless of if it is OK or not sleep is important. Most teachers will tell you to sleep at home though some students cannot. I instead believe that if a student sleeps in class they should be left alone to be stupid forever. Teachers should only teach those willing to stay awake in school and let those who do just be left behind to ask questions. If they actually cared students would make the effort to stay awake. in fact why don't more teachers just not wake students at all. let them sleep through the whole day. Make them realize that sleep is for at home because they are failing. Let those without effort fail.
in a fight between pain(nagato) vs madara, pain would win

1-8 are not completely usless its true that madara could phase through but if madara were to continually phase through he would run out of chakra quite fast and wouldnt be able to attack and if he did there are 6 or more eyes watching in every direction that would notice if madara solidified to make a move 1) as i said above there are 6 or more eyes looking in every direction that can see chakra and so the moment that he opens the rifft to come back to this dimension there would be chakra embembed in it and therefore letting pain know where he would strike next 2) no one has ever found pains feeble body except for naruto (who was lucky) and so therefore madara's chances of finding the true pain are very very slim also madara most likley wont know that there is even a real pain this took even jiriya the whole battle to figure out and he has had more knowledge with the rinnegan considering he had pain as his student 3) rinnegan are the most powerful ocular jutsu and so therefore mangekyo sharingan has no power over the rinnegan yes he could of but if he was lying why wouldnt he just kill pain and start leading the akatasuzki and put moon's eye plan into action beacuse he didnt, it goes show that pain's abilities were highly respected by madara and most likely feared Argments: Con. Madara is a game breaker. He can do anything, pretty much. End of Story. let me quote PRETTY MUCH and im not quite sure what you mean by anything but if it means any technique that is in fact incorrect beacuse the only one chakra type: earth Arguments: Pro. Pain is a game breaker he is considerd to be a god. The Rinnegan's abilities are largely unknown, but it did permit the user to use all types of elemental chakra, and allowed Nagato to master every technique Jiraiya taught him at the age of ten. According to Ibiki, the Rinnegan allows Nagato to use any technique he wishes.
in a fight between pain(nagato) vs madara, pain would win

Okay, to invalidate the entirety of your argument, Madara apparently has a jutsu that allows anything to pass through him as long as he isn't attacking. Since Pein couldn't actually touch Madara, methods 1-8 are useless. Therefore, anything you can possibly throw at him would just phase through. The only way to kill him is to have a technique that let's you warp instantaneously, so you can attack him before he is finished attacking. However, since Pein has none of these abilities, Madara is basically invulnerable. Furthermore, even if he did have these abilities, Madara could just stay still. Now, since all of Pein's attacks are basically useless, I shall enlist my method of destroying Pein. 1) Madara waits until Pein has exhausted his attacks, and then just disappears/warps the space-time continuum to appear behind Pein and then sucks him in. 2) Madara teleports to where Pein's feeble body is, and simply kills him. 3) Madara uses his apparently incredibly powerful Sharingan to make Pein kill himself by locking eyes with any one of his bodies. Rinse and repeat. I await for my opponent to give an argument that Pein apparently has some even more game-breaking techniques than Madara. "even madara himself admitted that pain was stronger than him" Admissions mean nothing. He could've been lying. There was no way to see if he showed anything that hinted he was telling the truth, since his mask always covers his face. Besides that, cunning, subterfuge and lying is what being a ninja is all about, bar the idiot Naruto. Lying is best for Madara, since people can underestimate him. Once they do, they are as good as dead. RFD:S&G Con. Obvious. Argments: Con. Madara is a game breaker. He can do anything, pretty much. End of Story.
in a fight between pain(nagato) vs madara, pain would win

Upon being struck by a direct attack, the canine could divide into another identical beast and increase its power. The beast can then recombine if needed, with one body carrying the heads of however many additional beasts were created. 2) Blocking Technique Absorption Seal---- regardless of any special or nature transformation, and dispersing it within one's body by spinning the chakra within one's body in the opposite direction. As a result, this technique can absorb any ninjutsu based technique, regardless of power, without harming the user. and im not quite sure but according to narutopedia amaterasu is also ninjutsu based 3) Bansh Ten'in----Bansh Ten'in is a technique similar to Shinra Tensei in that it manipulates gravity at the users will, however instead of pushing objects away, it draws them towards the user. So if madara tried to teleport away pain would bansho ten'in to draw madara back to this demnsion before he could escape fully 4) Soul Removal----By placing his hand on a target's head this technique allows the Human Path to rip the victim's soul out of his or her body. This results in the victim's death. which means that pain only has to touch madara's head once to result as madara's defeat 5) Shinra Tensei----is the ability to manipulate gravity at the users will to repulse matter away. Depending on the amount of force Nagato puts in this jutsu, it can easily shatter wood, bones, stone, metal, or even some of the most powerful defenses. By using this technique as a defensive measure, all attacks directed to the user will be deflected, no matter the size, power or mass. so once madara solidifies to attack pain would block using this technique while one of the other bodies would use soul removal 6) Rain Tiger at Will Technique----A perception ninjutsu, allowing one to freely manipulate rain infused with the user's own chakra. The rain falls from rain clouds, formed with Pain's own chakra. During this technique, the falling raindrops are closely linked to Pain's senses thus helping him pin point madara's position 7) chakra disruptions blades----they emerge from what appears to be the third rod away from the hand on the forearm. Nagato can also detach the blade from the arms when requiring to use several of them, or to be thrown as harpoons. Each of these blades disrupt the chakra of its victim, injuring them or rendering them incapable of moving. When a victim is stabbed by the blades, the Rinnegan appears in their mind, suggesting that Nagato has influence over them 8) last but not least the Rinnegan---- In addition to enabling the user to quickly master various jutsu, the user may also use all six forms of chakra nature transformation which, as noted by Ibiki Morino, literally allows its user to use any technique they wish.
I am a bad debater

If we remove the comments option, then there would be no special points for spelling errors at all. Also, while we will get more votes without comments, the votes would not be justified and may be against someone who had a very good argument just to troll the person. Lastly, since you have failed to act upon the resolution that "I AM A BAD DEBATER" I think you should vote for me. Just see my bad debating skills.
Spiderman could beat Batman

-Your statement is entirely false Batman wouldn't know Spiderman identity or where Spiderman's house is even if he researched it. You are forgetting 2 main things entirely my friend. The bat-computer is no ordinary computer as it is the main source of advice for batman in solving cases entirely in the books and movies. Secondly another thing that I cannot stress enough is that Batman is a MASTER DETECTIVE. To say that Batman cannot find out Spiderman's identity is under. -If Spiderman even wanted to come into the DC realm he would not even know who Spiderman is unless they met and of course if they met they would start the fight and you cant research while in battle. You insist that everything will happen in one battle it seems. Maybe you should have clarified the topic more. Of course you will not research during battle. AFTER THE BATTLE is what is important. Say Batman lost. .. he now will realize the full extent of Spiderman's powers. SPIDERMAN'S POWERS CANNOT CHANGE. -Battering's - Explosives - Gear and suits - Smoke bombs - Sonic boom - Bat call - Bat mobile vehicle Those are the main tools he mainly uses and there are no tools to show how Batman could easily get a bomb and take away his spidy senses. Continuing on with my point above, what is to say that Batman cannot come up with a NEW GADGET? Why is he bound to have the same gadgets all the time? Why cannot he adapt to every situation that he comes face to face with. Going back to the money point, of course with his massive resources he could EASILY develop or buy a sonic gadget that could disrupt his spider sense, or EASILY make or buy a adhesive material that would reduce Spiderman's mobility. -Basically you are saying since Batman has 100000000$$$ to buy any gear and make any gear your also stating he could beat - Flash - Wolverine - Superman - Sentry - Franklin Richards -Deadpool Moving on with the gadget theme. What is to stop Batman from developing a sort of Slow Motion goggles to beat Flash? Or another sonic device that could Wolverines will to draw his claws? NOTHING IS THE CORRECT ANSWER! !! ! Of course every superhero can be out of their league some of the time and Batman could fight people out of his league at a point. This time however it is SPIDERMAN that is out of his league. Batman has superior: intellect, resources, experience (peter is a teen, Batman an adult), and fighting experience that will allow him to defeat Spiderman.
Spiderman could beat Batman

-is no way Batman can research Spiderman because he does not exist in DC then how can they fight? Hypothetically they must exist in the same universe for them to fight. Therefore spiderman is no secret and batman would be able to research him Another thing, unbeknownst to us Batman deduced the secret identity of Superman. Are you saying that he cannot do the same with spider mans? Spiderman would have no clue who Batman was. Based on this information Batman can chose the right moment to attack Spidey wether it be his first or second, or even third meeting. Using his unlimited resources and knowledge of his identity or not. Batman could meet him on his own terms. At peter parkers house for example if he knew the identity of course. For example: a well placed sonic device shorting out his spider sense and a smoke bomb concealing him BAtman would take Spidey out in seconds. A goo could keep him in his tracks as to reduce his superior agility. Even if he did not need web shooters you cannot hit what you cannot see or sense. -I could have 100000000000000 $$$ and still lose in a fight. And are you saying just because batman has lots of money he could beat harder foes? NO it is HOW YOU USE IT. If any government were given 1 million dollars and another government $200,000 to fight a war and ...Who would be at a superior disadvantage? -Batman is another advance martial artist so if Spiderman can take down advanced martial artist Spidy would win. Batman is no where near an advanced martial artist. He has a photographic memory that he can memorize all the techniques, he has spent his whole life learning and perfecting these arts, and has traveled to desolate locations to learn all he can about martial arts. There is no mention at ALL that spidey has anywhere near the same training or dedication as Batman. -ex, he could beat harder foes like Spawn Superman Wonder women Flash This debate was on Spidey vs Batman and you constantly feel the need to bring other heroes and villains into it. Stick with Spidey vs. Batman please.
Spiderman could beat Batman

Con Money defiantly does effect the outcome of a battle. More technologically advanced missiles and guns will win the war against bows and arrows. Bruce Wayne would be able to command far more resources than that of Peter Parker from a multibillionaire to a reporters salary. Your proof? I could have 100000000000000 $$$ and still lose in a fight. And are you saying just because batman has lots of money he could beat harder foes likeSpawnSupermanWonder womenFlashIf you think he could beat hulk just because he has 10000000$$ you need to check again. This shows that my opponents statement is not true.Batman keeps advanced records of all heroes and villains. HE would defiantly read up on your friend Spidey and develop the necessary gadgets to defeat him. For example: a sonic transmitter to disrupt Spidermans thought process and spider sense. A specific electronic device that would short out his web shooters (all hypothetical of courseThe only way batman can keep record only unless if they were in the DC realm and Spiderman is in the Marvel realm so their is no way Batman can research Spiderman because he does not exist in DC And Spiderman does not need web shooters to win he can shoot webs even if he is without them those web shooters pack extra power to his webs.). WIthout those 2 key attributes a standing toe-to-toe battle would occur and Batman, master of all forms of combat would take Spiderman with ease Who told you that. Spiderman also as battle with advanced aspects of people and Batman is another advance martial artist so if Spiderman can take down advanced martial artist Spidy would win. Also Spiderman has hand to hand combat and also does not need webs to win all he needs is his spidy sense, his agility, speed, and strength. I concur that Spiderman would still have superior agility but it takes more than that to win a fight over BatmanI know where your getting your info. You are getting it from the batman vs superman battle. You think Batman can take down others with super speed because he took down Superman. Let me tell you that Batman used a kryptonite arrow from green arrow. Which shows it was a 2 vs 1 fight. Batman has no chance againstHulk- fastFlash- fastSpiderman- fastIf you cant keep up with them how do you expect to win a fight or lay a finger on the personCase closed your turn
Spiderman could beat Batman

Money defiantly does effect the outcome of a battle. More technologically advanced missiles and guns will win the war against bows and arrows. Bruce Wayne would be able to command far more resources than that of Peter Parker from a multibillionaire to a reporters salary. As of building the technology in the heat of battle that is not what i meant at all. Batman keeps advanced records of all heroes and villains. HE would defiantly read up on your friend Spidey and develop the necessary gadgets to defeat him. For example: a sonic transmitter to disrupt Spidermans thought process and spider sense. A specific electronic device that would short out his web shooters (all hypothetical of course). WIthout those 2 key attributes a standing toe-to-toe battle would occur and Batman, master of all forms of combat would take Spiderman with ease. I concur that Spiderman would still have superior agility but it takes more than that to win a fight over Batman.