Misotheism

Xxzefd says that he hates God. First he had to have asserted that there is a God, presumably the "Christian" God of the Bible. He does not care whether or not Creationism and the science to support his claim is true, but he "knows" there is a God. Next, he says he does not care what the Bible says God did, but only about the supposed "wrath" and "evil" of God that is noted somewhere in the Bible (his quotes of the Bible are fallacious therefore invalid because he reads them out-of-context). "You must accept the whole "End Times" craziness thing which is in the Holy Bible. " Pro, your argument is flawed because you are picking certain words out of the Bible, calling them truth, ignoring other parts of the Bible, and taking other parts and calling them "craziness" and lies. If these prophesies (most-likely in Revelation, although Pro did not cite it) are false, then how do you know that those verses in Zephaniah and the story of the flood isn't false too? Say I am going to assume EVERYTHING in the Bible is true. Don't get me wrong, my belief system is that the entire Bible is true and viable, but for this I am simply trying to figure out and unravel Pro's complicated system. In this state I will refute the verses that Pro wrote about asserting it makes God evil. Although I have already explained the obvious concept of "free will" that shows why God does not prevent the evil that tends to happen in our lives, I will go deeper into the story of Noah and of the Bible to eradicate why God is, in fact, not evil. First of all, the Bible says in James 1:13 that "when tempted, no one should say 'God is tempting me,' for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone. " . http://biblehub.com... Next, Genesis says that when He completed creation, he saw everything and declared it "very good. " The King James Version of the Bible (Isaiah 45:7) says that God "creates evil" but this has been proven to be a false translation. The New American Standard Bible shows that the word was just that God "creates calamities. " Also, Corinthians 10:13 promises us that God will not permit a greater trial than we can bear. He declared the end from the beginning, and He is still working all things for His good pleasure (Isaiah 46:9-10). But God's role with regard to evil is never as its author. He simply permits evil agents to work, then overrules evil for His own wise and holy ends. Ultimately He is able to make all things-including all the fruits of all the evil of all time-work together for a greater good (Romans 8:28). . http://www.gty.org... John Calvin wrote this wisely when putting it this way: ' . . . the Lord had declared that "everything that he had made . . . was exceedingly good" [Gen. 1:31]. Whence, then comes this wickedness to man, that he should fall away from his God? Lest we should think it comes from creation, God had put His stamp of approval on what had come forth from himself. By his own evil intention, then, man corrupted the pure nature he had received from the Lord; and by his fall drew all his posterity with him into destruction. Accordingly, we should contemplate the evident cause of condemnation in the corrupt nature of humanity-which is closer to us-rather than seek a hidden and utterly incomprehensible cause in God's predestination. ' [Institutes, 3:23:8] Pro states: "You must admit that either it would of been better had I never been born or been exposed to any form of religion whatsoever if Judeo/Christianity is the truth. " I do not admit that. Your life happened; it has a purpose, and you must admit that the truth will be told that the Bible is valid and God is love, not evil! "Being "Iconoclastic" and always open to new ideas and being "nontraditional" isn't easy. " after saying "My religious preferences as a Misotheist are fully justifiable and correct. " This is slightly hypocritical because it's claiming that his beliefs are fully correct yet he's supposedly open minded. The Flood had warning. During the 120 days of preparing the ark, Noah told the people what God was warning them, and God's vengeance was because of the horrific sin that the people committed every day without respect for the Lord. A passage in Jude says 'And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. ' Since Christ announced the doom of those in chains of darkness awaiting their judgment, the identification of them as disobedient angels who did not keep their proper abode is certain. Remember, there is no such thing as "probably innocent". The fallen nature of all humans since Adam means that we are guilty and deserving of condemnation from the womb on. That God could wipe out all humanity in the way he did helps us understands God's disposition towards sin and gives us a reference point for man's sinful nature. The NT echoes this as it affirms that there are NONE righteous on their own apart from God's intervention. The pre-flood people of earth are used as a reminder of this and the flood stands of a warning of the future judgment we will all face. In conclusion I would like readers to ask themselves: after seeing the arguments in each of the sides of this debate, is misotheism logical? Is it good or bad? Who did a better job debating? Through the interesting conversations, Pro and I have agreed to disagree mannerly. Thank you to anyone who read until here; I congratulate them. Hopefully some of it made sense.