Re-upload: God is illogical

Standard theology. . . . . . Want. What I said in the previous Round that still holds up: By God giving free will God has allowed evil to exist knowing full-well the consequences and knowing also some people cannot be saved. Since God is all-knowing God knew Hitler would not be able to be saved. If God did not know God is not all-knowing. God the Christianic one is all-knowing therefore knew Hitler would commit the acts he did and allowed it to occur even though God is well within Its power to prevent the acts he committed and send him straight to hell but God allowed him to live only to punish him afterwards. A non-theist would say he did not get the justice he deserved but even if Hitler gets his justice in the afterlife in this reality he did not get his just punishment. Though they. . . . . Life. Not everyone gets the choice. Did the cancer patient had the choice of genes or when he/she would die? No but you somehow think Hitler and Stalin had the choice of death and destruction or something less harmful. To me that requires proof that Stalin or Hitler realised the mistakes they made but still carried on. I can say they obviously did not have the choice of death and destruction and my would be as right as yours. If a three year. . . . . Wise. From the source below it does seem like Hitler did not get the same training. His mother pampered and his father died but you somehow think they had a choice between doing good or bad. What if all they know is evil? Can that exist? What I said in the previous that still holds up: This does not logically follow, Either the parents forces the child to meet their demands or the child will find order in something else. When the child. . . . . Them. If that does occur would God still punish him for making the wrong mistake? Given that the adult knows no better and lacks the understanding. If you had a bad parent but later in their adult life uses their bad lessons for bad would God still punish? If you say no then I have an argument. Most if not all serial killers are not born to be serial killers. Quote from the source below: Not all abused children become serial killers, And not all serial killers are victims of childhood abuse. However, The connection between the two cannot be dismissed as just coincidence. Knowing this God allowed the child, Who cannot comprehend or have the capacity to know right and wrong, To go down the wrong path. That is not the fault of the child but do I am sure you would agree that Ted Bundy would go to hell? If you say yes then I would say that is unfair. Ted Bundy grew up in an abusive household and God punishes him for what his parents made him into. What specific individual person do you think is definitely going to hell because from what I see no one is born evil they are molded into being evil at some times during their childhood when they had no capacity to make an informed decision? All they can do. . . . . Well. This is where I can say not everyone has the same opportunities but you still say that they still had the choice of good. The life of a happy. . . . . . . Disagree. You wouldn't say that about God would you? But that is what God is. A automaton with perfect powers only capable of doing good. God has no free will if God did that leaves open the chance for evil. You did say God was all-good which means God does not have the free will to do evil. God is a happy automaton but we are humans which can commit evil and good. But then I. . . . . . People? Here is an analogy for you. God is our parent and we are God's children. A good parent would stop us from doing harm to ourselves but a bad parent would not. God falls into the bad category. A good parent would remove the free will of the child trying to touch fire but if the child was left without a parent God would not step in to stop the child from burning him/herself. I rather have my parents or wiser people force ethics upon me and also give me the tools to know right from wrong. If that does not occur then I will be committing bad actions without knowing they are bad thus not learning from my mistakes. Your analogy is bad but great for making me think of a point. I changed it since your question was an exaggeration. Besides God already commands people what to do and not to do in bed in the Bible but some people choose not to do it. Some people don't follow the law and they are punished. Some people do not follow the Bible and they would be punished in hell. I think. . . . . . Ethics. If God knows everything why doesn't God tell us? It is does not matter that we do not develop or learn from our mistakes since if we had the same knowledge as God we wouldn't be making mistakes. The nation. . . . . . Same. Seems like I made the same point as you about God laws and actual laws. I am assuming by nation you mean the government. Not every government gives you choices. 2 examples would be Communism and a dictatorship. Are you allowed to protest the dictator? No. Are you allowed to protest for food? No. Examples would be Kim under his dictatorship and Stalin when he was in charge of Russia. The nation does also brainwash. Did you not know there was war propaganda during the World War 1 and 2? They brainwashed you into thinking they are evil and what we are doing good but the actual fact is both sides are evil but one can be considered the lesser of two evils. God has power. . . . For. No logical reason for God's existence hope that you give one in the your Round while also realising that I cannot rebut it. God enjoys. . . . . Struggle. You have not seen God or know from the Bible that God enjoys existing. That is an assumption if not I would like proof. Life is a power struggle if we boil it down. It is part of our human nature. Another source below is from Quora but does get my point across and states flaws in your arguments. Power is part of human nature. The purpose of life might not be power but it is part of human nature. What about apprehension. . . . . Goal. All that you mentioned here is still a power struggle. Just in a different way. This can be desire of nourishment. Since the definition does include good condition everything that you said is still a power struggle. Nourishment: the food necessary for growth, Health, And good condition. To our peak. . . . . . For. You completely missed the point I made in the last Round as if it wasn't there. I will not say something different instead will copy what I said in the last Round You do understand even the child has room for improvement as well as an architect. I have never known a field where everything has been learnt. God with all Its attributes has already gained perfection therefore I don't see a reason to persist. This argument still stands. Nothing you said states why God still wants to exist. That is an Ancient. . . . . God. Was the first sentence I quoted needed? I highly doubt it did besides you are assuming it without knowing it to where I derived that point from. If God does bestow value onto people then where was Hitler's value when he wanted to gas all the Jews? God only wants humans to love Him even though I stated why this is trivial for an all-perfect being. God knows who will show affection or not yet wants us to love him. God knows best but has not told us. God instead allows Hitler to gas Jews even though God is capable of bestowing him with the knowledge that he is doing wrong. God made life. . . . . . . Lives. The difference is humans require children to carry on. A human has a short lifespan but with babies the human race can still go on. God is different. Bad analogy. The human knows. . . . . . Universe. So God is not all-powerful then since he can't intervene in our world? Why think. . . . Way? It matters whether what is right or wrong. If I am wrong where is your evidence or explanation? Was that numbers and laws of nature? I don't see how this is a point for you. Numbers have consistently yielded results even the laws of nature when it is right. God hasn't. For the many years we have been living, And the time that people had to fine tune God yet we still cannot consistently yield results on the Biblical God existing. Wonder why that is? I agree, God is. . . . . . Aware. You agree then disagree. If God is everywhere why isn't God in our perception? That is simple you have used mental presence as in argument even though you do not understand that includes everywhere yet God cannot be seen. It is the atheist. . . . . . Ex materiaI would regard this as slander. Atheists only have one idea in common their lack of disbelief or no belief in God. Everything else you said is misleading. Whereas were I say all this stuff about God I am not wrong. Religion is a set of ideas with a God. Key word set. Atheist is one idea. Religion is many. This statement is misleading at best and at worst a lie. Atheism: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. Religion: a particular system of faith and worship. But, We both come to a point. . . . . That. The difference is I am not making a claim. I am making a non-claim. You make an argument of ignorance. I don't know therefore God or the God of gaps since we do not know what caused the universe you are assuming it to be God. The leap of faith is a problem. Anything be true based on faith. Tell a child something they would believe it. They do not have capacity for reason so they can't say otherwise. We would not. . . . . IllogicalThe difference is non-theist do not dedicate there entire life to something they do not even know exists. Yes there are leap of faiths in Science but that ends when providing facts. The leap of faith for theists does not end until they die. If you agree I would like you to rebut something but I can only mention it in the comments. Source: The Rise of Adolf Hitler (BBC)Why is there a constant power struggle among people? (Quora)Was Ted Bundy abused as a child? (Quora)From Abused Child to Serial Killer: Investigating Nature vs Nurture in Methods of Murder (Psychiatryadvisor)