Masterbation is not seen as a sin in the bible

Not possible really? Maybe you haven't watched porn, but pulling out to cum is been done many times before. You aren't listening to what I'm writing. It is impossible to start cumming and pull your dick out mid orgasm. By the time you climax you're shivering at the rate of thunder. I seriously can't believe my friend that you would consider it impossible since it has been done beforeMaybe that's because I never said this. You're either quoting me out of context, or trying to kill my credibility through scapegoats. And I don't think you read the link in detailI certainly didYou passed over the part where it talks about Onan's brother dying,. .. I had not. .. and since he was next of kin he was now incharge to impregnate his brothers wife with childIrrelevant. The quote was clear. Onan didn't spill his semen inside the vagina. This is directly stating that Onan finished himself outside the vagina. God ordered him to do so but he did not and disobeyed God which made God put him to deathIrrelevant. The only important lesson in Onans story is that he finished himself outside the vagina, and god was displeased. You may think this sounds insane but considering you had no problem believing he was killed because he masturbated then you should have no problem believing thatI don't believe in any of this. The resolution is asking whether or not it's a sin in the bible, and I have proven that it is. Especially since my link shows that in detail and expalins it wellYou mean your bias and non-scholarly link? I told you the correct interpretation. Your own link this round says that Onan masturbated. Ancient Hebrew law held that the next surviving brother shall take the widow of his deceased brother as his wifeIrrelavant to what happenedYour correct but all that you affirmed was not involving masterbation being a sin but fornication, lust, idolatry, homosexual acts, prostitution, beastiality, and every other sexual act except masterbation. So you may have affirmed other sexual acts as being sinful but not masterbation. You're once again commiting the same fallacy. It is 100% true that you masturbate and lust at the same time. We are taught to look at things for what they compose, not what they constitute. Philosophy 101. I will equate this conversation with a ladder. A human would see a ladder a one singular object, whereas an animal would see a ladder as 8 planks stacked on top of each other. We possess reason, so we are well aware that these planks form one object, a ladder. Masturbation is no different. Lust is a component of achieving an orgasm, and as humans, we don't see masturbation as lust and touching oneself. We see it as one singular act known as masturbation. My opponent is breaking several laws of philosophy in saying that we can seperate an action from a sin. Examples of my opponents contention in effect- The action of killing isn't sinful, because only violent intent is a sin in the bible. (False, violent intent is a component of one singular act). - The action of rape isn't sinful, because only lust is sinful. (False, rape is sinful, whether you lust or not, because the sins are components of one singular act). As you can clearly see, the OP's argument falls short. I gave an example earlier. If buying a goat would kill a person, and you buy the goat knowing this, you're still commiting the sin. Your premis is flawed because it assumes that a sinful act done with a none sinful act makes the none sinful act sinful alsoI can't understand what you're saying. Yes most people think of impure thoughts when masterbating, but they usually start by getting aroused by there thoughts then they combine it with masterbationThis contradicted what you said earlier. You negated your own BOP. As I'll repeat, you are lusting while masturbating. They don't usually start thinking sexual thoughts then simultaniously start to masterbateThis is exactly what they do. I provided a link that showed so. So in short masterbation is done usually because the thoughts get them aroused so they masterbate because of itNo need to repeat myself. The premise is false. I avoided sexual thoughts when masterbating. Even if I didn't it does not change the fact that masterbation is not a sin as I previously showed in my last comment on this very post. And I already said if you had mentioned masterbation in any of those links I would of rebuttled them but you didn't. I provided you with a link that stated that everyone attackes some form of lust in masturbation. It doesn't have to be sexual. Inorrect, the actually origninal wording is fornication and the original translation mentions sexual act committed with others or lustful thoughts not masterbation. You aren't refuting what Paul said. I can't understand you, and fornification is irrelavant to what he has said. Paul clearly said that having sex with yourself is no different than having sex with another. Or that one's own body is accountable for sexual sins as well. Premis one is reffering to what paul said about sexual sin which never mentions masterbationMasturbation is having sex with one's self, is it not? Paul stated that sexual sins apply to one's body, so yes, you are commiting homosexuality, adultery, and pre-martial sex. .. .. .. with yourself. The second premis is completely incorrect because it is based on pure assumptionAll 3 things I listed are sins in the bible. I linked it earlier, in a biblical list of sexual sinsAgain I'm only obligated to do so if you stay on topic which you didn't. It was not off topic. I gave you 4 quotes, and they are still droppedI'm sorry if I was not clear, I meant a person starts thinking sexual thoughts first which gets them aroused then they masterbate while thinking the sexual thoughtsThis sentence not only doesn't make sense, but is once again wrong. You are touching your groin, while watching, looking at, or thinking of a object or person of lust. Once again doing something none sinful with something sinful does not make a none sinful thing automatically sinful. You are not trolling, correct? it is a sin to kill people not to drive a carI told you that something is only a part of the sin, if it is inherent in the sin. I also don't think it is a sin to accidentally kill someone, but I may be wrong. Driving a car isn't inherent in every killing in history. Lust, sexual immorality, loath, and idolatry are inherent in masturbation. So what? Again just because you do something none sinful with something sinful does not make the none sinful act sinful. This is getting sillyConclusionMy opponents arguments were rambling, incomprehensible blabber. The arguments showed that he didn't fully understand how masturbation works, or how it is done. It was also readily apparent that my opponent dropped 4 quotes I affirmed for claiming masturbation as a sin. They have now been affirmed. The BOP has not been filled, and literrally no intellectual understanding has resulted from this debate.