Aliens (Etraterrestrials) Exist

First, let me rectify a little error. In my very first argument, the link I meant to paste showing that alien abductees show no signs of madness was http://en.wikipedia.org... All can check this source and see the medical studies that clearly demonstrate those claiming to be abductees are not suffering from mental illness anymore so than the average population. The link showing the altitudes and speeds of UFOs in the Belgian UFO Air Wave is here. http://en.wikipedia.org... "Do you believe the bible when it says that everything in the heavens was made for Christ by Christ?" Yes. "Do you believe Apostle Paul when he says ALL have sinned? Do you believe the bible that ALL who have sinned deserved eternal hell?" Yes, and the word "all" is obviously confined to the sphere of men on earth and not of beings in heaven, for God himself cannot sin, and many of the angels in heaven are not sinners. If the word "all" has exceptions for them, it can have exceptions to for the aliens; but personally, I have no need to conjure up sinless aliens. The text wasn't discussing aliens in particular. But as far as I am concerned, God is just. The same way God will not hold it against someone who had no opportunity to know Jesus, he promises he will always judge mercifully. So if the aliens knew about Jesus then some will go to heaven or hell on that basis, and the ones who didn't have chance to know will receive God's mercy. But if none of them knew, then they all may receive mercy. I don't even have a problem with them not having the Bible. Humans didn't have a Bible since the creation of man till sometime after the Exodus. And even then, the Old Testament was not accessible to the rest of the world that was indeed inhabited such as Mexico, Australia, Peru, China, etc. So if God has a way of judging them regardless of their lack of knowledge about the Bible, why should he have a problem judging aliens? I don't see this as problematic. "Do you have a God that sentences people to hell with no just propitiation? (If you do you have different God to the bible) Finally some theology mixed with philosophy, do you believe that the bible is absolute truth? That it would be right in ALL places at ALL times?" God doesn't judge people for what they don't know. The entire law of Moses was not given to the Gentiles and there was no Bible before the law of Moses was given. (Ps 147:19-20; Eph 2:11-12) But he did give man a conscience. (Rom 2:12-16) He could give aliens a conscience to. Some might chose to do what their conscience says is right and not kidnap human beings, other might do what is wrong and abduct them. God will judge them by what they know, not by what they don't know. I don't see a problem. "evidence must be provided from recognised sources such as peer reviewed journals or scientific papers," This attitude is the very reason why the scientific community doesn't accept the many proofs of God's existence; so do you think that just because these atheists who control the peer-review process don't allow evidence for God to get a fair judgment that that somehow proves there is no God? They are working on the assumption of naturalism. I don't have to get my feelings in a peer-reviewed journal to prove that my love for someone exists. They might never detect love with their instruments, but does that mean it doesn't exist? Con seems only to accept certain types of evidence for aliens, yet, on the word of a few person who were never around to take lie-detector tests to show that they ever did hear God's voice, he believes in God. Wow. Now, please read the post and see that Con was the one who "assumed" the aliens "had" transmissions to begin with, then required SETI to pick them up. Con seems to only accept pictures in wikiperia but not camera film downloaded on Youtube. Little does he mention the fact that Youtube was showing "Larry King Live," as well as "News Broadcast from the Belgian Air Force," so were the radar images shown by the Belgian Air Force fake? Was the footage on Larry King Live fake? And I didn't mention any "fake" photoes in my debate, I only used reliable evidence, but Con wants to ignore the "genuine" evidence and point at fakes as proof that aliens don't exists. It's like a child pointing at a small typhoon as proof that tornadoes don't exist, while ignoring a CNN news broadcast on Youtube about a twister viewed by thousands. He makes points I've already answered then goes back to demons. I've repeated over and over that demons are spirit beings. They don't match the description of what these people saw. A demon can't be tracked on radar, that alone rules them out. Does Con really believe demons fly metal ships? Why is he so adamant that demons exist wihout showing any proof, then expects me to show him peer-reveiwed articles on aliens? Con, how many peer-reveiwed papers have you seen on demons? Further, I never said anything about millions of citizens like you and me lying! I don't respect that Con put those words in my mouth; not a good way to win a debate. Please read and see if I said such a thing. He doesn't realize that it doesn't take many government officials to cover up something like this; it's not like the aliens left their ship for 2 years in the public square. And just like the men Larry interviewed, many more are sworn to secrecy. Even if Con could prove I'm not holding to the Bible, (which I am, just not his erroneous interpretation), how does that disprove the existence of aliens? It doesn't! Now, Con claims that he "believes by faith" that God exists. He claims to be a Christian. Does he know that faith is "the EVIDENCE of things not seen"? (Heb 11:1) So Biblical faith isn't gullability, nor believing without proof, but is based on evidence. A true believer doesn't only "believe" God exists; he "knows" God exists. Jesus said that we would "KNOW" God. (John 17:3) This in itself entails evidence; otherwise, Con's christianity is mere wishful thinking and gullability, and he's no different from people who believe in santa clause or the tooth fairy! There is great evidence in Science and nature that God exists. The Bible says the heavens declare the glory of God, and he is perceived in his creation. (Rom 1:20; Ps 19:1) This means that things such as the fine-tuning of the universe for life, the conplex specified information in DNA, and the irreducible complexity of some living organisms are evidence of the designer's handiwork. Even looking at the complex design of snowflake, or the beauty in a rainbow tells me there is Creator. But Science today being ruled by naturalism doesn't accept this evidence. So, the same thing happens with aliens, in that they reject the evidence, and expect more evidence than what they should. The atheists ask, where is God? Why can't I detect him with scientific instruments? Why don't I have photoes in peer-reveiwed journals of what he looks like? This is the kind of attitude Con takes with aliens, and hence he has no choice but to argue that he only accepts God on "faith," as if his faith is devoid of evidence. If so, I'm sorry for Con. For it sounds like he only belives but isn't SURE there is a God, and I fear this weak kind of faith won't stand up to tribulation; sooner or later that kind of faith breaks! So I hope Con now sees what it's like when you take a debate about aliens and turn it into an attack on the credibility of one's faith. He was the one who challenged that my fiath isn't in accord with Scripture; but it seems that his isn't as he tried to separate faith from evidence, leaving him with gullibility! Why then, doesn't he believe in Zeus? I'll leave that one for him to answer...