Thett/ bossy Tournament R1 (ASOIAF) R + L = J is most likely the correct theory.

So this is great, me and my opponent seem to agree on the R + L aspect of the debate. That part is the biggest issue that could probably come up in this type of a debate, so the rest of this should be fairly simple. So the only issue to debate now is whether it makes more sense that it = D, or = J.There is no valid objection to Dany's parentageThe entire premise for coming up with the R+ L theory, was to put a line of objection to Jon's parents being Ned and this mysterious "Wylla". There has always been contention among the ASOIAF fan base around Ned's motivation for cheating, the hesitancy in speaking about the act even to his "close" friend in Robert Baratheon, etc. Many people seemed to assume Ned lied about his cheating, or in the very least was hiding something due to his overall dodgy behavior on the subject. On top of that, their was always the motivational reasons linking Ned with his "honor". Point being, Jon's parents (or at least his mother) was left as an open and ambiguous mystery for the readers to figure out. Such is not the case with Dany. It is common knowledge in the seven kingdoms that her parents were Rhaella and Arys II. My opponent seems to jump into the case that was originally meant to support Jon Snow's parenthood infallibility, but uses it to paint a picture on a very clear parenthood of Dany. My opponent claims that Dany's whole parenthood is based on the sole word of Viserys, which is entirely untrue and un-supported, Further to dismiss Jon's parentage being between Brandon and Ashara is completely not back with any supported theory evidence. Until my opponent explains this point in further detail, I am forced to dismiss this. Environment of Braavos My opponent makes a very classic mistake in assuming things about the environment of a territory. For example, just because wood doesn't grow in many places in Braavos, doesn't mean it does not exist entirely in Braavos. IE, it is not impossible for a young girl and boy with royal blood to have had the resources to live in a place with a lemon tree, or wood in general. While resources in Braavos are limited in land development, it does not mean these things don't exist at all. My opponent seems to dis-regard the idea that trade exists at all. In fact as one of the richest places in the seven kingdoms, most of Braavos large fleet engages in the economical activities of resource gathering, transportation etc. To say that wood doesn't exist in Braavos is like saying that all dornish households are made pf pure sand sand sandstone. The statement is inaccurate and far too big of an underview of the entire territory. This aside, wood does exist in Braavos near the exterior of the island."Firewood is brought in by barge, while pines on the islands surrounding the city are left to act as windbreaks to protect the harbors, and are illegal to cut down. There is only one channel large and deep enough to accommodate ocean-going ships."(1)My opponent then qoutes a guard complaining about the weather in Braavos. While the whether in Braavos does seem to lean towards the colder side, sun makes it way there just like anywhere else."The location of the city affects its weather. The weather mainly consists of fog, rain and freezing rain. On the occasion, it is clear and sunny."(1)It is not impossible for Dany to have seen a lemon tree in Braavos. Finally, my opponent describes the smell. While many areas of the city may smell of brine and fish, it is an over-statement to apply that smell everywhere. Does Arya smell that in the temple of the many faced God constantly? A person's own house can smell differently based on the owners own lifestyle. Perfume can outweigh the smell of fish, even then. Timeline issuesAnother issue with Dany being the daughter is the timeline. Rhaella had conceived Dany during Robert's Rebellion. She was sent to Dragonstone for safety during the sack of King's Landing. The whole reason Rhaella died was during childbirth on Dragonstone during a big storm (the reason they call her Daenerys Stormborn Targaryen). (2) It is known that Dany was sent to Braavos from Dragonstone. If Dany was the daughter of Lyanna and Rhaeger, where, when and how did she get to Dragonstone? How does Skeps explain Rhaella's death? How did Lyanna make it to Dragonstone, then back to the Tower of Joy in the period of like a month after the sack of King's Landing, the battle of the Trident, and the winning of Robert;s rebellion? There are so many holes in this story, and plot points left un-explained if R + L = D, that even entertaining the notion of it is silly. At least until my opponent can answer some of these other questions. MotivationMe and skeps both seem to agree that Ned had a motive to prevent the council and King Robert from sending an assassin to kill Dany. What we don't agree on is the reason. To me, as stated in round 2, it demonstrated the hypocrisy in the notion of Harboring a Targaryen bloodline in Jon, where to my opponent it is because Dany is his own sisters child. Let's weigh these motives though, Jon Snow is someone Ned has raised into man-hood and has deeply become fond of. Reasons aside from protecting the honor of his sister Lyanna, Ned also has a personal attachment to Jon.As far as the third head of the dragon goes, I was always under the impression that they were Aegon, Dany, with the third head unaccounted for (I think it's Jon Snow based on R2 arguments). To Conclude, my opponent hasn't painted reasonable doubt to Dany's parent's being Rhaella and Aerys. No one in Estoros or anywhere in the seven kingdoms seems to recognize or ackowledge that this should be in question. This is possibly the biggest point my opponent will need to explain in the coming round. the second largest thing is my opponent's mis-representation of Braavos as a whole being evidence that Dany wasn't raised there. Where was she raised, and how? What does where she was raised if not in Braavos do to prove her lineage? I await my opponent's response.Sources: 1. http://awoiaf.westeros.org... 2. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com...