Gay marriages should be left alone.

note. : I'm much better than this in an ad-hoc, verbal setting, so i plead people will not mind my grammar. Hahaha Well, thank you for responding so quickly, even if it is a bit unnerving. ... .... I find several intellectually dishonest / contraindictory / bunk things in your argument, and I will address them in this round. I'm fine with your argument, in principle, but so far it falls a bit short of the bar. I maintain that the united states we call America were, are, and should continue to be a free country ( in theory. ) where the heart of the law is the supremacy of the rights of the individual. If you actually read the founding fathers, they were all about the sovereignty of the individual. In this America, the government is kept as small as possible, and there is order to spare, indeed. Compare the more free, wholesome, family-based and less state-centric life of just 100 years ago in America. Thousands of people were not dying on or around the Mexican border. Corruption was actually punished duly and justly. Not the case today. My opponents has rather deceptively spoken of a place where " homosexuals can marry, and so can heterosexuals ". This implies that either would be restricted in this. No. I am adherent to a philosophy like that of Jefferson or George Washington that promotes free and unrestricted association between indivduals. Freedom to talk, meet, gather, marry, or any other voluntary association, so long as they do not break the law in doing so ( there's your order provided for. ) It is true that most history teachers today will tell you washington and Jackson had to use heavy-Handed measures to control civil dissent. I will assure you that they did not relish it and were very wary of such things becoming a permanent institution. The spirit of America is the idea that people can be self-deterministic and that freedom works. This doesn't mean anarchy, it just means you're not told how to live your or forced to live it in a certain way according to someone else's design. It is true that the first amendment does not mention gay marriage, it is also true that distruptive speech is not protected by the 1st amendment, that amendment and the constitution exists to protect from the government legally persecuting you for speaking your mind. If you are committing a crime, your speech is protected, but you'll still be legally reprimanded. duh. The first Amendment protects all speech from being curtailed solely on the basis of subject / content, c'mon, man. The first amendment does mention freedom of association, including gays having weddings or any other lawful event in a queer manner ( for that is what they call themselves. ) I'll state this very explicitly, just because the constitution doesn't describe a scenario like a police report, doesn't mean it's a grey area you can use selfishly. I believe we can follow the constitution, which states the federal government and government as a whole should not intervene on private associations such as marriage, and therefore eliminate the need for lawmaking regarding it. Under my model, states could NOT outlaw gay marriage or any kind of marriage, because we would follow the letter of the law. And then you seem to say that Sagacious as I am, I am a barbarian. Because I do not believe in unconstitutional and thus illegal legislation, I am barbaric. The laws you mention are mostly bunk laws that run contrary to the spirit and letter of the supreme law of the land. Again, such laws have my full disdain And I would not defend them. I believe in a limited, unintrusive, proletariat government, not no government. On the topic of the American way : The American way was never slavery. The American way is moral, and was fixed against the slavery imposed by the british, economically, and socially. Was there slavery after America ? Yes, but there was a whole lot of other [ stuff ], and the founding fathers were very progressive for their time. Perhaps and maybe it was the American way of a few good old boys and slave drivers. The constitution is the American way, Independence, freedom, and all those other goodies. Where do you get slavery from in all that ? And then you finish up your critique of the American institution of slavery that wasn't in accordance with the American way at all by, let's see ... I'm a hypocrite, unclear, and therefore you still support that gay marriage should be banned in a manner befitting of the soviets or the stasi. Why don't we just live n' let live, mm ? Or we could continue on in a manner that will polarize people and create a two-tier society where people with morals are persecuted and eventually controlled by the government. I fully see that going on right now. Like the hate speech laws, kna 'mean ? sh*t's bad, and you're not helping. c'mon, ladies and gentlemen, are we this conceited ? Let's come together and work this out without violence. All government is is a monopoly on force and violence. Ron paul 2012. : ( : (