Occupy Wall Street

Very well addressed issue, I applaud your determination and in depth knowledge of the negative aspects of this movement. I have nothing to say on top of what you have as these are simply true statements. However I do have an argument outside of this; it is about time we have a movement for justice that is mostly surrounding honesty and respect. I do not doubt there are bad people in this movement to give it a bias outlook, attempting to overrun it similar to the feminist movement. I would also like to suggest that you will always find extreme people within movements that want to make it legalistic and fundamental, look at religion and previous movements that went out with good intent, instead, turned bad... Black panthers, feminists, even the internet group known as anonymous. Each one of these groups had good people rising up making it seem very nice, but then we had intolerant and ignorant people taking advantage and control of this. So if we look at the OWS movement, we can see that it was started with a lack of good intentions, we see crime, and other things arising that claim to be in the name of the movement. I will not deny these things, I do not like it and wish it to leave also. However we see honest people that previously had nothing to cling to in hopes to support equality, but now they do. Feminism and Anonymous were very exclusive, not many variations of people can join, feminism started and stopped with women's rights... but more specifically, the 'oppression' and lack of respect by the male population. Anonymous was a group from the internet with intention of fearing the government and authorities to do the right thing. However, if we don't have public awareness to any degree, we will breed ignorance and misinformation. I live in Cairns Queensland Australia. At the school I went to, we were taught that the 'white men' that first came to Australia and claimed it as their own land said that the aboriginals attacked them and they had no choice but to peacefully remove the threats. I later found out that the aboriginal people didn't mind sharing, but when they were offended, their only retaliation they knew was to threaten. They realised some of the men were sleeping with their women and the tradition is not completed this way. Instead of apologising, the European settlers simply killed them, starting a war. They never viewed the aboriginal people as, well... people. They literally saw them as animals up until the 60's. We stopped a lot of bigotry and ignorance to give the aboriginal people equal rights back in the 60's, and we are educating people now through public awareness. Of course there are still angry and bitter aboriginals that hate what happened to their ancestors, and there are racist people who hate the aboriginal people. But the line between what they are fighting for and what they aren't is drawn up well. The OWS movement, although starting off bad has seen light and potential. Even if it is simply for authorities to possibly address on an issue of education. Whether we like it or not, if we don't have any movements, we will see a lot more oppression. We need to stand up for what we believe in, and if we are misinformed, then a group needs to step up and educate. ... Sorry if my argument seemed out of place, I am incredibly tired and needed to reply before it would run out of time. ... TL;DR. I understand and agree that the thoughts behind the OWS movement were not as sincere and authentic as one would hope to begin a movement. I understand and agree that the motives of a lot of the people in this new movement are not acceptable or simply misinformed. I understand and agree that there are a lot of grey areas in terms of goals that are unclear. However, to remove this movement for them three reasons instead of educating and making disclaimers is just foolish. We need a movement for people to fight for, we need to promote peace, education and acknowledgement / respect. We need goals that are black and white that are simple and direct. The only people that take this now 'some what' clear movement are those who are uneducated or who have bad motives and will lie or break the law in order to get there.