Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality

I will post my case this round and focus on reffuting my opponents next round.Homosexuality occurs in nature by humans and other organisms making homosexuality a nature more than an act.The statement i just made is very important.A. If homosexuality is more act than natural impulse that means it can be controlled and is most likely a choice.B. If homosexuality is driven by natural attraction and not so much an act then it must be a naural occurence.Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. I believe this to be fact due to a compilation of facts and logic. My first point will attempt to prove that homosexuality is not limited to only humans but animals as well witch may lead us to believe that homosexality does occur in nature and may support my point that homosexuality is indeed natural or at least as natural as heterosexuality. This would indeed fit the definition of natural because this is something naturaly produced by nature and not so much can be turned on and off like a switch witch would mean organisims do not havethe choice to stop being attracted to the same sex. Now there isnt a reliable way to test this in animals however this point can be proven by oberving the behavior of homosexual humans witch i will get to.First I will show proof that homosexuality is natural in the way that it is naturaly occuring in nature etc..."Female mice 'can be turned lesbian by deleting gene' Female mice can be turned "lesbian" by deleting a single gene at embryo stage, scientists have discovered".....http://www.telegraph.co.uk......Around 2,300 years ago, Aristotle had already described the remarkable behaviour of a group of hyenas: males flirting with males, females pleasuring females. But the idea of gay marriage in the animal kingdom never really fitted into the scientists' world view, and so was all too often ignored.""Homosexuality has been observed for more than 1,500 animal species, and is well documented for 500 of them."http://gaylife.about.com......"Scientists at California’s Monterrey Bay Aquarium Research Institute and the University of Rhode Island recently reported on the same-sex mating habits of Octopoteuthis deletron, a deep-sea squid that indiscriminately shoots sperm packets onto both male and female squids passing by." "O. deletron isn’t alone in its same-sex sexual behavior. In a review article published in 2009, biologists Nathan Bailey and Marlene Zuk at the University of California, Riverside, noted that “many thousands of instances of same-sex courtship, pair bonding and copulation have been observed in a wide range of species, including mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, insects, mollusks and nematodes.” Some animals, when given a choice, show a preference for the same sex, and researchers have even ascribed a same-sex sexual orientation to members of certain species. Read on for some fascinating examples." http://www.popsci.com...... I will provide some pictures of animals engaging in homosexual activity and I will describe how we know the animals are the same sex. http://www.kontraband.com...... I believe these are moose's and female moose's don't have huge antlers like these two do. So both of these are males. http://www.kontraband.com...... Only male lions grow manes. So both of these are males. http://www.kontraband.com...... Obviously we see two antlers and a buck and there having a threesome. http://www.kontraband.com...... This one is just too funny....lol http://www.environmentteam.com...... This last one is a compilation of gay activity by animals. Now im very aware that just because animals and humans engage in homosexual behavior that doesnt mean its natural. However if i can observe a species wanting to have heterosexual attraction but cannot this will prove my point. In these examples homosexual humans wanto be heterosexual but cannot. http://www.oasisjournals.com... http://www.steadyhealth.com... Homosexuality is not a choice. There are no definitive studies to prove this because scientists don't know what to measure. However this can be proven with resoning as can all things. Why would a gay person want to be straight and cannot do it without leing to themselves and others if homosexuality wasn't in that persons biological make up? Why would any person choose to be bullied,have some of their human rights stripped of them, be deprived of liberty, possibly life, and the pursuit of happiness to defend a choice? it simply is not worth it.Nor does it make sense. Gay people cannot change what they are attracted to. Gay males ae wired to testosterone for attraction. Gay females are wired to estrogen for attraction.Some are wired to both. This cannot be changed on and off like a light switch because ones attraction to hormones are the way they are from birth till death. nothing can change that( except the controversial subect of gene manipulation, for instance the rat experiment.). The Bandwagon Fallacy Most people these days believe that what happens by majority is the correct way to go. This is simply not true if a majority of people say that rape and murder is okay does that really make it ethical? Of course not the majority rules concept is simply a collective opinion and is not always fact. Now back to the topic. Humans when faced with the question of the naturality of homosexuality measure the question usually with the following Question, What does majority of society think? and how many homosexuals are their? and lastly witch class has more people? typically the awnsers are homosexuality is a choice,few, and heterosexuals. There is a problem with all of this. We cannot follow the bandwaon fallacy in this matter to decide fact. We cannot measure the numbers of homosexuals because most wont admit to their nature. Lastly since we cannot accuratly count the numbers this is an invalid measure. The last thing i want to say on this point is who are heterosexuals to say their way of life is more natural than homosexuals? Is it really just because there seems to be more straight than gay people i the world? Whos not to say that homosexuals are designed correctly and that heterosexuals have the problem? Know one truely knows. One could easily say, " homosexuals arnt designed to reproduce." Homosexuals have the ability to reproduce. Whenever i hear this claim i always question if humans think we are only here on this earth to reproduce? However there is a hole in this claim. First homosexuals can easily reproduce by simply havng sex with the opposite. They don't nessisarly have to be attracted to one another to have sex or to get excited for that matter. Yes we have male and female and only male and female can produce another gender. that much is true however a homosexual couple can seek out the opposite sex to have a child anytime they want to in various ways other than the easily assumed. Also not every heterosexual couple reproduces. We don't have sex all the time with the intent of producing children. Most of the time it's for fun and or because the two are in love. So with that being said just because a homosexual couple can't reproduce with themselves they can still reproduce at any time they want. lasty humans are not created with the intense urge to reproduce. So what im trying to say here is that an organisms methods of reproducing may be different than the way the majority of the species does it. However that does not mean the organism that does something different is not natural. however organisms are created they are still created to with the ability for their species to reproduce. As long as the organisms have the tools to reproduce it can still reproduce as long as conditions are met. As far as im aware homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. Some things differ however all things are natural between the two. Sadly im running out of characters and will say more next round. A pro vote is a logical response to this debate.