Existence of God

Let"s get crystal clear here" its is always up to you, no exceptions, none, for you to prove your god. And that is something that you cannot do. After all no one has come close to doing as such. No one has been able to prove "let there be light" or "let the truth be known". It is also rather blatantly clear and obvious that you have been tyrannically brainwashed. You state "laws of logic" when thinking, reasoning, rationalizing, common sense, and using logic do not exist within god, religion and your bible and they are totally 100% abandoned. If they did, then you would be the only sextioniare on the planet and your god would be the only god worshiped. You mention non-contradiction in your other debate that was canceled. By that meaning I am assuming that you fully understand that your god, bible and religion are FILLED with super massive hypocritical contradictions? I mean you do understand that - correct? The christian worldview" Here"s the atheist worldview which is correct and makes one heluva lot more sense because there really is no such a thing as a christian worldview because there"s no consensus on christianity to begin with" "This is not just a matter of opinion. This is an entire branch of philosophy of epistemology about how we go about determining whether or not a ---claim--- is reasonably and rationally justified. And extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The claim that there is a god is an extraordinary claim which requires more than just pointing to an old book. That is simply NOT rational to the claim. Sorry. Its not just an opinion. There"s more to life than that." Matt Dillahunty Matt Dillahunty "The question is ill formed. The question is "what proof and evidence do you have that atheism is true"? Atheism is the position of NOT accepting the theological explanation. It is NOT accepting the god hypothesis. It is in fact the null hypothesis. It cannot be proven to be true. It is the default position. And christianity and Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam they have all failed to meet their burden of proof. Its not up to me to prove they are any gods anymore than it is up to me to prove that that there isn"t bigfoot or fairies or UFO"s. The default position, the null hypothesis is that these things aren"t true. And we wait and we reserve belief until they are demonstrated to be true. Does that make sense? Caller "Does that mean atheism is not a worldview?" Matt " That"s correct. Atheism isn"t a worldview. It doesn't have any pennants or dogma, no books, no authorities. It is a SINGLE position on a SINGLE question on the existence of gods. Now there is a world view that many atheists share. Most of us, at least with the ACA, are skeptics, that informs our worldview. Its my atheism as a direct product of skepticism. Many of us are secular humanists which tells us a little bit more about our moral outlook on life and other things. There"s many many many labels that would fit. There are a number of secular worldviews that are consistent with atheism. Just saying you are an atheist alone doesn"t say anything at all about somebody"s worldview. By the way most Buddhists are atheists. They don"t believe in a god. But they believe in any number of, in some cases, supernatural things that I don"t accept, some of them don"t accept that either, so yeah atheism is not a worldview. It can certainly be a part of a worldview. But its not a worldview in that broad sense." ., Now go right ahead and describe "god". I mean no one else can. How can you after all describe something that you do not know and or something that NO ONE has EVER witnessed? Also who says that there has to only be one creator? You? How would you know? From what grade of intelligence does that come from? Oh and btw, YOUR bible states that there is more than one god with several different verses which is a super massive fatal flaw with being "us" and "our" in several different verses. The two videos below are irrefutable. - God's of the Bible - God"s of the Bible So there"s no physical evidence for your god. None. So what"s left? All that"s left is faith. And faith is ---never--- a pathway to truth or knowledge. I mean ev-er-yt-hi-ng can be taken upon faith. Here"s a few things for you" "Why would you believe anything on faith? Faith isn"t a pathway to truth. Every religion has some sort of faith. If faith is your pathway you can"t distinguish between christianity, Hinduism, judaism, any of these others. How is it that you use ---reason--- in every of the other endeavor in your life and then when it comes to the ultimate truth, the most important truth your"re saying that faith is required and how is that supposed to reflect on a god? What kind of a god requires faith instead of evidence?" Matt Dillahunty "Faith is the reason people give when they don"t have evidence." Matt Dillahunty "Faith can be very very dangerous, and deliberately to implant it into the vulnerable mind of an innocent child is a grievous wrong." Richard Dawkins "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is the belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." Richard Dawkins So what"s left after that? Well its simple. Why would anyone want to believe in your god? And why do you believe in your god? No that's not a trick question. Is murder evil? Y____? N____? Is slavery evil? Y____? N____? Is rape evil? Y____? N____? Is hating gays and wanting to stone them to death evil? Y____? N____? Is deliberate genocide evil? Y____? N____? Is hating children evil? Y____? N____? Etc etc etc All of these your god has freely admitted to and participated in. Now you look it up if you don"t believe me. Your god is pure hate and immoral. If you think they are perfectly OK, then you are as immoral as your god. Indeed god is far far far worse than Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hong Xiuquan combined. Here's some examples... 3,000 EX 32:27-28, 14,700 NU 16:49, 24,002 NU 25: 1-11, 12,000 JOS 8: 1-25, 10,000 JG 1:4, 120,000 JG 8:7-10, 42,000 JG 12:3-6, 1,000 JD 15:14-15, 3,000 JD 16:27-30, 25,101 JD 16:27-30, 1 SAM 4 34,002, 1 SAM 6:19 50,070, 2 SAM 8 65,850, 1 KI 20: 28-29 100,000, 1 KI 20: 30 27,000, KI 19 35 -37 185,000, 2 CHR 13 17-18 500,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, 2 CHR 28:6 120,000, Esther 9:5-18 75,813 etc etc etc Yeah god is really so moral huh? There"s no such a thing as "love" within any genocide. Here's some example's of your god hating children... 2 Samuel 12:11-14 11, Deuteronomy 2:34, Numbers 31:17-18, "17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." describing joyous rape. Leviticus 26:21-22 "And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. 22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate." Rob you of your children? 1 Samuel 15:3 "3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling , ox and sheep, camel and a$$." Hosea 13:16 "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." Wow. Such a nice gentle caring god. This book should clearly be read to children - correct? Now if you do not see something is seriously wrong here and wrong with your god, then something is seriously wrong with you. We'll get into mathematics in RD2 if you want. Its pretty simple.