Gun Control

1) Yes Switzerland is a good example of how many factors can effect. I'm bot saying gun control would be the, ironically, magic bullet, but it would help signifigantly in lowering homicide rates like it has in other places. And since it's something that we have never extensively attempted and theres a chance it could help, i believe that we owe it to the people who die on our obscenely high amount of shootings that dont happen in any other developed non warzine nation to at least try and see if we can save lives. 2) It wpuld be more dofficult to obtain them. I do of course acknowledge it wouldnt eradicate the problem in any way, but theres something that i think realy males a difference. That dofference is that marajuana and cocaine do not hurt and kill mass amounts. Part of the reason the war on drus is ridiculous is because we put people in jail sometimes for life for illegal marajuana possession. While I dint advocate that for illegal gun owners, making certain guns illegal makes sense. Also keep in mind that all marajuana and cocaine is banned. Im not advocating for the banning of all guns. Keep your hunting rifles or any guns not specifically designed for use against human beings. People could still have small magazine guns and the like. It would be perfectly legal. It's very unlikely that ordinary citizens who are not dangerous would go through the risk and the trouble of getting an illegal type of gun with a giant magazine or illegally bypassing a background check just to get a gun to use entirley for safe purposes. All drugs are illegal. under gun control, not all guns would be illegal, so there would be leas of a reason for people to use the black market. Also, in a case where someone does want a giant magazined dangerous gun, why would you have it available in a store down the street why not make it illegal and even a little harder for that guy to obtain? 3) Yes, America going NAZI would be made more possible by having gun owners registered, but that won't happen. theres zero indication that a mass gun comfiscation would happen. To pass a public saftey law, we don't necissaruly have to account for something that is incredibly unlikley to ever happen. You included a quote from hitler earlier and i think I have a solution where we can have gun control and not turn into NAZI Germany. We have reasonable gun control (not a gun ban) and then for the next steo, we skip over completely the part where Jews are out into concentration camps and facsism is introduced. I think that the argument that a gun registry would result in aoemthing like that is a slippery slope agument. In addition, that quote is a myth. Hitler did not actually say that nor was gun control part of Hitlers initial rise to power. However, I think it is more the concept we are discussing ao that is irrelevant. But just as a safeguard, I think its rwasonable to also inteoduce legislation about the proper use of the registry and what you're not allowed to do with the informatiom on it. Also, private property is already a constitutionaly garunteed right, so either way you have grounds to defed yourself legally if the situation ever arose, which it wont, where all guns were confiacated from citizens homes. And yes I'm aware of the Japanese internment camps. Again, i think it is fair to say that ideologically, we have evolved as a nation simce the fourties to where that cannot happen. If the government disarmed an entire ethnicity or any group and put them in camps i think there would be complete uproar. 4) I think you're absolutely right that it would hurt some corporations. But what theyre soing is dangerous and bad for the country. Why would we make it easier for them by legalizing it. as of now we cant stop them. If it were legal we could at least attempt it. Also in the case of corporations even more than people, it would be much, much harder at least initially for them to manufacture these weapons and sell them in mass because they would not be able to use at elast any domestic factories and they would lose a portion of the market who would not want to buy illegally. Yes people can still get guns and still get drugs, but for many the risk amd the stigma does serve as a deterrant. And yes it is barder to buy a gun illegally. in my state you can get them from WalMart. That is definetely easier than an illegal gun sale crim ring. 5) In response to you're point about England and thise other areas, i'm going to quote from later in the same report you quoted. "First, the cross-sectional studies: Suppose for the sake of argument that high-crime countries are the ones that most frequently adopt the most stringent gun control laws. Suppose further, for the sake of argument, that gun control indeed lowers crime, but not by enough to reduce rates to the same low levels prevailing in the majority of countries that did not adopt the laws. Looking across countries, it would then falsely appear that stricter gun control resulted in higher crime." In addition, I can name other places;Australia, Japan. These places have a nearly insignifigant (No number of murders is insignifigant, im speaking statistically) rat of gun murders. The fact is it is muh easier to kill someone woth a gun than with a knife, and if gun comtrol has a chance of working, I think its our reaponsibility to give it a chance. If it doesnt work, we get rid of it, thats the reasonable thing to do. But we have to own up as a country to the fact that we have the hightest gun murder rate in the developed world and we're the only developed country outside a warzone where mass shootings take place on this scale and this frequently. You cant mass-knife or mass-hammer to death 22 people. I direct you to the chinese studenta example i gave earlier. If reasonable gun control, maybe not even to the level of a handgun ban, but something might cut the numbers of these killings, what could possibly be more important than doing that. I want an answer to that question. http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org... http://propagandaprofessor.net... http://www.guncite.com... https://www.washingtonpost.com...