I actually met god in a dark back corner of a busy street with the smelly stench of the city

"I do not believe you met God, " Well chim chimminy cherry cherry curvaceous curry curry curious blah blah black sheep. Um duh nobody has. Not one person as nobody, Not one person has ---ever--- been able to prove that this god character from a little bitty blank black bile babbling blubbering book has ever been able to prove its existence. So you"ve automatically discredited yourself. And you've also discredited yourself by stating that you are a christian/ protestant when there is no such a thing. Oh christ crispies this is gonna be fon. "When starting a debate with lies, You have automatically discredited yourself. " Awe gosh golly gee gosh darned it all, So then you do not believe in your god, Because that"s exactly what your wondrous bible did, Which is one major reason why your god, In which you cannot even prove even exists, Did. Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, After our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, And over the fowl of the air, And over the cattle, And over all the earth, And over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. " 1. Who is this "us" and "our"? So according to the BIBLE there is more than ONE god. So its either a blatant misprint, Or its a lie. Or its the truth and there is more than one god and YOUR entire religion is false. My that was fun. 2. "and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth" Welp my son who i obviously in kindergarten, That"s also a point blank lie because man certainly does NOT have dominion (domination) by any means over insects, Poisonous insects, Viruses, Bacteria, Microbes, Etc etc etc so YOUR bible point blank LIES before even the first chapter comes to a close. That was fun. Now go bowl your ball down an ally during a silly pity spit off. I use the bible because that"s all YOU have. All YOUR bible is, Is a superior ego god complex and nothing more. Actually no, YOUR god chose to bring "sin" into this world. OK have it your way (wow are you boring) because if not true, Then that means that YOUR god is NOT in control of man and his sin, That YOUR god does NOT know everything - aka does not know anything at all about man"s sin, Is most certainly NOT all knowing and all powerful and wants to see man"s sin flourish, YOUR god does not give a damn AT ALL about the human race (proof of that is he flooded the entire earth in which never happened btw), Is most certainly not omnipotent, Is not perfect either. Nah nee nah nee boo boo. Just a little hint for yah, That"s strike one, Any more sheer utter stupidity like that one with a strike two and three, And I will happily end this debate. K snookums? Let"s look at "sin" since you think you know sooooooo much about it. But all you know is your belly button lint caught between your brain and your muffler. Matt Dillahunty "What is sin and why should I care about it? (That"s a very good question. ) I don"t give a damn about sin. And that"s because I am not stupid enough nor ignorant enough to believe in a selfish self centered god so I have to look over my should every second of every day and worry about something that is completely meaningless such as sin) I understand why I should live an ethical life and treating people in certain ways, We have secular foundations for moral systems. But sin from the christian perspective is a crime against god or god"s nature itself - right? If god makes the rules and you violate it, That"s a sin. Well what if god makes a rule that you should kill your child, Does that make it good? Caller " Yeah that"s where I do things that are not aligned in what the bible says. " Matt "Yeah. But are they good things? Do you have good reasons to have that the things you are doing are not immoral? Like do you have an example? Like don"t confess to a crime or anything. For example the bible is opposed to homosexuality. Do you think there"s something immoral about those who are homosexuals? " Caller "Uh there"s none that I can think of. " Matt "Yeah me neither. And so if the bible"s opposed to it add the bible is the word of god, And the Koran is opposed to it as well and the Koran is supposed to be the word of god as well, And there are two holy books and let them argue over who god is and what god thinks and until they can come up with a sound secular justification for homosexualiy being immoral then I don"t need to pay their views any money because its just an opinion at that point. " Sin is hypocritical and contradictory in your bible. Thus sin does not exist. Does every man sin? Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, Because they are the children of God. Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God. . (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, And he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, Then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, And the truth is not in us (I John 1:8) Sin? Lets use Homosexuality as an example as christians call it a sin? Really? According to what? The bible doesn"t say anywhere in the bible that its a "sin". Try harder. Nor does the bible say anything at all against gay marriages. And the words "gay" and "homosexual" were not inserted into your bible until 1946. So try harder. The biggest sin is to go against god. Now if god were in the slightest bit genuine, In which we all know better that he's not, He---couldn't---care---less. Its like you using a bad word when you were young and your mother washing your mouth out with soap. Big whoop. But god has this frail fragile thing called an "ego" which is sandblasted all across the bible which means he's imperfect. And since he's imperfect it means he should not be bowed down to nor idolized, Nor worshiped. But the biggest sin there could possibly be - ever - of all time. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Since I will not believe in god, I am going to be denied a place in heaven by that simple little gesture. Well goodie for me, All the more reason for me to - never - believe in the monstrosity that is YOUR god, Not mine. What value do you place on sin, Or if its not your view, It"s the bible"s. Let"s look at some examples. . . On a 1 to 10 scale. . . *Homosexuality which has never done you any harm to you must = a 10 *no other gods before me must also = a 10 *shall not make for yourself a graven image must also = a 10 *take the name of the lord your god in vain must also = a 10 *remember the sabbath day, To keep it holy must also = a 10 *god ensues slavery and the beating of slaves so that must = a 10 *god loves raped women so that must = a 10 *god can justify his many genocides which would mean the killing of innocent babies, Children and pregnant mothers which is extremely, Excessively, Unreasonably, And is foolishly contradictory and hypocritical = a 10 *god knowingly hates children = a 10 Raping, Beating and torturing a child must = a 1 because children do not have a voice in the bible, To SCREAM. They get to say nothing. Their mouths are glued shut. The abuser who is raping, Beating and torturing a child must also = a 1 because there's no relevance into doing harm to a child in the bible. In no way does god believe harmony, Love, Care for each other because otherwise peace would have already been achieved = a 1 If you do not see the horrific details behind YOUR religion, God and bible, And its fatalistic flaws and how valueless they are, Then you are completely gone into another non existent universe. But then again, You like the typical christian, Have probably not even picked up your bible and read past page 1. "It was man that chose to be wicked, " Oh really? Wow. Since when do you think that man has something called "free will" if you believe in YOUR god in which thankfully I and billions of other are not in any possible way stupid enough to because we happen to be educated and intelligent, Therefore we do have free will. Oh and btw, You show me anywhere in YOUR bible where YOUR god says something, Actually anything like "I the lord thy god grants man free will". The fact of the matter is that it doesn"t exist. So you who believes, Does not have free will. Try harder. "And their thoughts were evil "ALL THE TIME, "" Oh I get it, Babies/ infants, Preschoolers thoughts were evil "ALL THE TIME" correct? That"s a HUGE MONUMENTAL strike 2. Indeed, You like so so so many on here, Namely debate. Org cannot possibly have any genuine friends or loved ones. What do I mean by genuine? Those that will go way way wayyyyyyyy out of their way to help you out in time of dire need and never ask you a single question. For that I cannot even pity you. But you did it to yourself. You deserve it. You will die alone. "Why did God destroy everything in the flood, " He didn"t, Never happened. The earth was ---never--- flooded at the same time. "Does God want to kill gays? " According to YOUR big black blank bubbling bubbles babbling book he does. "I think"" Um no. You don"t get to "think". YOUR bible is very specific on one helluva lot of things. That"s one of them. And its very specific. Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, As he lieth with a woman, Both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. " NLT "If a man practices homosexuality, Having sex with another man as with a woman, Both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, For they are guilty of a capital offense. " I'm out of space. You've got one strike left. So on order for you to keep this debate alive, You'd better think about what you say and how you say it IF you want to keep this debate alive. I am a lot smarter, More educated and intelligent on this subject than you.