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god is not "one" therefore god is a fraud

OK I’m not going to retread entirely what was stated in RD1. You have not thus far refuted a single thing stated in that round. Oh and oh yeah. That stupid "trinity" thing. Dump it. Its completely useless. What moron uses it? (Good, refute it then.) No you prove that it holds authority on this debate. Look at other debates here on debate.org for proof imbecile. (I don't use debate.org as an authority) That right. You don’t. Therefore your entire conversation has no authority. “Can I debate you and not the video?” No because you like all christians cannot handle any true evidence when slapped in the face with it and you fricken know it. And what a true contradictory hypocrite you are to think you can present me with any website information, but not me. You like so many christians here must not have any true genuine friends or loved ones. Wow does it show. That is very telling. AND pay attention to your fricken bible because you have 0 outs with it. None especially with genesis 1:26 and genesis 3:22. Now YOU mention WHO is this "us" and WHO is this "our". But naturally as last time you copped out of it. (You did not read round one did you? I just said I use these verses to as trinitarian evidence in the scriptures) Yeah and I said trinity is useless garbage that only you use with no authority. I was born jewish so I"m perfectly aware of "The lord thy god the lord is one" And you were just proven wrong in which your entire religion is hinged upon. (Evidence please, not assertions. Engage with what I said) OK we’re done. I’m not going to play your childish games. You keep on going there chum and have absolutely no one in your life, no friends, no loved ones. I guess that’s how you want it. I proved it with the video. I proved it with the verses. I proved it with many others believing that J.C. is the son of god. So in turn others believe that he is actually a god. Thus there are TWO gods. And there’s another verse genesis 11:7. Oh and dimwitted dullard the trinity is NOT plural. Its NOT “us”. Its NOT “our”. You can invent all the lying excuses all you want. And you 100% know that you are flat---out---lying. Now if you do not understand that, then take a flying leap into a fire ants nest so that they may take many bites on your you know where areas for the rest of your moldy diaper daisy daring days. Don’t even bother posting another argument to me. It will go unread. Your stupidity is beyond unbelief to make me believe that I will actually fall for your pretend childish plaything games. Not on YOUR life. I’m not going to jump into your pool of icecubed piranha for the nuts anymore. Bye.
god is not "one" therefore god is a fraud

Again my opponent's response was without substance. Let me see if I can read through my opponent's insults and find anything noteworthy of comment. Sorry for sarcasm. I'll go line by line of his rebuttal so my opponent does not think that I am dodging anything. "I really hate it when Christians like you think that they have all the answers (I don't by the way and I am ready to admit to that when I someone in a debate says something that I cannot rebut, I say, "I don't know.") to nothing (Huh? Don't you mean that we think we know the answers to everything?) when in fact they know the answers to nothing and as as brainless as yodeling cabbage. I did that in round one (You might want to clarify your grammar here because you look like you just insulted yourself instead of insulting me) unless you want to go back and go through what I have previously posted and take it in AS EVIDENCE rather than acting as a typical smug smarta$$ christian that you knowingly are and with utter desperation because you 100% know that you"ve lost, you tried to change the subject, as only the typical christian understudy would do, or run away.(When was this?)" Oh and oh yeah. That stupid "trinity" thing. Dump it. Its completely useless. What moron uses it? (Good, refute it then.) Look at other debates here on debate.org for proof imbecile. (I don't use debate.org as an authority) Oh and oh yeah watch the fricken video which takes down EVERY FRICKEN THING YOU FRICKEN MENTIONED because you didn"t watch it and you know it.(Can I debate you and not the video?) AND pay attention to your fricken bible because you have 0 outs with it. None especially with genesis 1:26 and genesis 3:22. Now YOU mention WHO is this "us" and WHO is this "our". But naturally as last time you copped out of it. (You did not read round one did you? I just said I use these verses to as trinitarian evidence in the scriptures) I was born jewish so I"m perfectly aware of "The lord thy god the lord is one" And you were just proven wrong in which your entire religion is hinged upon. (Evidence please, not assertions. Engage with what I said) Because he"s NOT one according to your bible now is he? Nope. DUH. (More proof that my opponent did not read round one which I explained the difference between oneness in number and oneness in unity.) Now that was a great deal a pleasure to compose. (Ditto) I seriously hope my opponent does better and comes up with something better than his last rebuttal.
god is not "one" therefore god is a fraud

My job for this debate is to defend the God of the Bible against the claim above. "god is not 'one' therefore god is a fraud". My opponent's job is to defend his claim. I really hate it when christians like you think that they have all the answers to nothing when in fact they know the answers to nothing and as as brainless as yodeling cabbage. I did that in round one unless you want to go back and go through what I have previously posted and take it in AS EVIDENCE rather than acting as a typical smug smarta$$ christian that you knowingly are and with utter desperation because you 100% know that you’ve lost, you tried to change the subject, as only the typical christian understudy would do, or run away. . Oh and oh yeah. That stupid “trinity” thing. Dump it. Its completely useless. What moron uses it? Look at other debates here on debate.org for proof imbecile. Oh and oh yeah watch the fricken video which takes down EVERY FRICKEN THING YOU FRICKEN MENTIONED because you didn’t watch it and you know it. AND pay attention to your fricken bible because you have 0 outs with it. None especially with genesis 1:26 and genesis 3:22. Now YOU mention WHO is this “us” and WHO is this “our”. But naturally as last time you copped out of it. I was born jewish so I’m perfectly aware of “The lord thy god the lord is one” And you were just proven wrong in which your entire religion is hinged upon. Because he’s NOT one according to your bible now is he? Nope. DUH. Now that was a great deal a pleasure to compose.
I have super speed

Pro did not define the term "super speed". I assumed he was referring to the super speed that comic book super heroes have; In which case, he would need to prove that by running to my kitchen to make me a sandwich. But since he was arguing that his "super speed" is his ability to run at the same pace as an athlete, I will point out that he has only claimed that he can do this, but has not shown any evidence of this. Pro is the one claiming that he has "super speed", so until he provides some actual proof of this, we cannot take his assertion to be true.
The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and...

My opponent forfeited the last round unfortunately. Seeing as this is last round, I will wrap this up. First, my opponent has conceded most of the debate. The resolution is "The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and price control. " I proved this with a logical sequence. My opponent conceded this sequence. My opponent asserted that price control would help small businesses in small towns. I showed this was not the case.
The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and...

I would like to point out what happens when price control is put into effect in this small town: A small town has a business "carrying capacity". With all the businesses and Walmart there, each making the same profit, and not competing, all go out of business because none of them can make enough money selling their products to this small town. Rather than the best of the companies surviving, none come out alive (except Walmart, which is a large chain). Also, there is a great problem with my opponent's small town: There are no producers; there are no primary industries that would bring money into the town. All the money is constantly being sucked out to primary industries elsewhere. The town is doomed to collapse. But that's besides the point. When my opponent has added primary industry to this town, then we shall see the real pains of price control. Until then, the economy of this small town is not genuine. I'll leave that for round 4. My opponent concedes that all regulations besides price control are not forces for good. I would like to conclude by stating that my opponent's understanding of economics seems to be very limited, as we saw with his assumption that the small businesses and Walmart could co-exist with price control. I look forward to a stable town to argue about, and hopefully a logical argument.
The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and...

Both of my opponents points 1-9 and 1-4 end saying it makes people poorer and limits innovation because of the government and price control. To show that this is not the case, I will use an example that covers both. Just for easy I'm going to from now on state that because Price Control is enforced by the government, Price Control is a piece of Government Regulation. 6. Government regulation is unneeded. (from above) 7. Therefore, government regulation makes people poorer and hinders the economy. (Law of Detachment) 8. Something that makes people poorer and hinders the economy is not a force for good. (given) 9. Therefore, government regulation is not a force for good. (Law of Syllogism) 3. Price Controls limit innovation because there is less competition. (from above) 4. Therefore, competition is a greater force for good than price control. (Law of Syllogism) In a small town there are several stores, a bookstore, a locally owned grocery store and a small business supply store. Within the community these stores all fair quite well, due to lack of competition they are all kept in business. They are contributors to the local economy, this helps everyone within the community. Now lets say that this town has noticed some recent expansion, and Walmart is looking to move in. After this happens all of the small companies go out of business. Why? Due to the lack of price control, Walmart was given the ability to move in and grossly undersell their product to the point where there was no competition. The small businesses did not have the fund to make it a fair fight, but with price control in place all of the stores would have still been left standing. Saying competition is fair would be like saying a race between a High School student and an Olympic class sprinter is fair. Sometimes people have a huge advantage, leaving competition unfair and irrational. Sometimes competition will not lead to innovation, in this case it would hurt the local economy especially because walmart can leave whenever it feels like it. When Walmart leaves, because it controls such a huge portion of the local economy, the people suffer. To end this point I would like to finish with a quote from the affirmative, "Something that makes people poorer and hinders the economy is not a force for good."
The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and...

The Invisible Hand: My opponent sources lead poisoning as an example. I am about to show how this example is null, but I expect my opponent to give more examples of his claim: "It is obvious that there are cases when the will of the people just aren't enough, in this case they would be promoting less good than the government regulation. " With lead poisoning, all the damage done is traced to the company responsible and the company is liable. It cleans itself up. The company would not want to sell deadly products or services because it would be liable for all damage. 1. Liability is part of a free market and is adressed in Civil Cases. Government regulation is unneeded and inefficient. (see above) 2. Government overlap leads to wasteful spending. . http://www.house.gov... 3. Government spending sucks money out of the private sector. . http://www.investorwords.com... . http://www.jsonline.com... 4. The economy is best off and people are richer when money moves quickly through the private sector. . http://www.jsonline.com... 5. If government regulation is unneeded, then it makes people poorer and hinders the economy. (from above) 6. Government regulation is unneeded. (from above) 7. Therefore, government regulation makes people poorer and hinders the economy. (Law of Detachment) 8. Something that makes people poorer and hinders the economy is not a force for good. (given) 9. Therefore, government regulation is not a force for good. (Law of Syllogism) Competition: Companies can not only compete by lowering their prices but also by producing things cheaper. Companies are reasonable when choosing by how much to lower their prices. When prices are lowered to the point that both companies are being hurt (perhaps they are only making a penny per sale), one of them wises up and raises the prices a bit (so now they are making two pennies a sale), doubling their profit. The one cent isn't much of a difference, so this raise is only a benefit. With price control however, there is no way for Company A to make more money than Company B or for them to compete in a free enterprise. There is little motivation to prosper. 1. Competition is the very force that leads to innovation. . http://repositories.cdlib.org... . http://www.amd.com... 2. Innovation improves society and standard of living. . http://www.innovationtools.com... . http://www.jsonline.com... 3. Price Controls limit innovation because there is less competition. (from above) 4. Therefore, competition is a greater force for good than price control. (Law of Syllogism)
The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and...

As the con of this argument I will have to disagree with the resolution, "The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and price control" I would like to start by comparing the invisible hand with government regulation. In the example stated during clarification, yes if a store is not kept clean it will in fact lose business. But what about in cases where revenue is not effected. If the shop is kept clean for example people will still buy from the store. It does not matter if the store is selling products that are contaminated with lead, people will buy because they are unaware. The people, could not physically shut down this store even if this defect was found. Whereas the government could shut the store down for practising unethical salesman ship in selling these defected products. It is obvious that there are cases when the will of the people ( ie the invisible hand) just aren't enough, in this case they would be promoting less good than the government regulation. Onto the topic of Competition v. Price Control In a wonderful, and perfect world prices would drop so low that we basically would get everything for free. Unfortunately this isn't the case, prices are based on the income. You cannot sell a product for less than what you paid for it and expect to remain a float as a company. There comes a time when you cannot lower your price anymore. When both companies are selling the same product for as cheap as they can, what happens? The exact same thing as price control. Both prices remain the same but due to supply / demand the income generated is so small the companies both suffer. Now under price control both products are still the same cost, but because its government run the prices will be higher than that of the competition theory. As you can see, both have the same outcome from the perspective of the buyer because the cost will be nearly the same at both stores. But in the competition theory both companies are being hurt because their products are not selling for much because the people simply do not want to pay. When both are being hurt, competition obviously cannot be the stronger force for good when the price control leaves everyone better off.
The invisible hand and competition are greater forces for good than government regulation and...

...price control. I apologize, but the topic can only be so many characters. I will give a definition and an example of each of the 4 elements in the resolution. The Invisible Hand - (the self-regulating force in a true free market) - A company does not clean its shop. No one wants to go there. They go out of business. Government Regulation - (a government control on business) - A company does not clean its shop. the government shuts them down. They go out of business. Competition - (the struggle for survival between businesses in a free enterprise) - Company A overcharges, so people buy from Company B instead. Company A tries to make its prices lower than Company B so that people will want its goods/services. Price Control - (a government control on the value of products) - Company A and Company B must sell their products at the same price. Society determines the price of goods. This may make some products cheaper, but every dollar that is used to make it cheaper must make something else more expensive or society's income smaller. Now that I have clarified this debate, I will post my arguments next round.
The universe is made of only one particle

1 & 2. To answer this question I will give you a summary of my full theory. The universe is made of only one sub-atomic particle. This particle has 3 states - left spin, right spin and no spin. Empty space contains only left and right spinning particles which are unattached. These particles spin at the speed of light. Matter forms when a spinning particle stops spinning and creates a hole in space which the left and right spinning particles rotate around. The sun gets its energy from these spinning particles which are pushed together as they approach the sun. The spinning particles give off their spin energy - 2 particles pushed together create 'matter' which has a neutron in the centre - thus -E=MC squared. Light travels through these alternately left and right spinning particles like the cogs in a watch as a spin/wave. Thus, spin energy is the common denominator which unifies all the elements and forces of the universe. Its not that they are lying. Its more a matter of respecting their forefathers too much and accepting previous theories without question. The education system doesn't allow for too much dissension. If you disagree with too many professor you won't pass your exams. Twin clock paradox - Time is not something which can be distorted or changed. Time is not a thing in itself (refer to Kant), it is only a counting system. Thus, relativity is illogical. Einstein and other nit wits try to turn time into a physical object which it is not. Thus, there is no fourth dimension or time vector. Double slit experiment - https://debunkingrelativity.com... Note - Quantum mechanics is not required. Michelson/Morley - Results of Morley experiment or less than gravity which only proves that aether drag is real. To expect the Morley experiment results to be exactly the same as gravity is illogical at best. Thus, are you trying to say that if you spin a ball in still water that the water won't move at all? This is against logic and practical experimentation. Fractal universe - Fractals are a dimensional quality of the universe which creates complexity. Its what separates matter from space and atoms from galaxies. The only difference between matter and space is spin and rotation. Space spins only while mater both spins and rotates. Space contains no black hole attractors while matter does. The universe will construct itself in the simplest and most efficient manner. KISS principle. My theory is the simplest manner and most efficient manner that the universe can be built. I have used reverse engineering to construct a universe that is the most efficient. All the parts of my theory fit together perfectly and there is no waste or disjointed parts which don't lock in together. I have used the basic mathematical principle of the common denominator. In order to unify two separate numbers or things you must find a common denominator. I have found the common denominator of one particle in 3 states of which can and does explain every phenomenon from gravity, matter, electricity and 'empty space.' The current theories can't do this, therefore, they must all be incorrect and faulty.
The universe is made of only one particle

1 & 2. Nobody knows what dark matter or dark energy is, so I don't know why you have exhibited this as evidence. The problem with currently accepted theories is that nothing fits together. Matter, light and gravity are all unrelated and are foreign to one another under the Einstein and Newtonian theories. This is definitely not how the universe works. The universe is a unified oneness which is very simple and uncomplicated. It is only humans who are complicated, ambitious, greedy, egocentric, difficult and psychotic. They can't accept a simple universe because they want to be respected as professors of the physics of a 'difficult to understand universe' of which only they 'understand'. Thus, they must maintain a 200 year old lie to preserve their integrity, high prestige, high income, high status position at all costs. This is the main problem. The world we live in is corrupt and evil. You may say that I am a conspiracy theorist. But I have been around a long time and have been into the university system and seen corruption with my own eyes. The concept that 2 twins can age differently if one twin travels at the speed of light for several years is a total nonsense. Clocks that travel on fast aeroplanes and rockets are slowed down due to aetheric pressure increases. Time never changes regardless of speed. Relativity is a total nonsense and Einstein was the worlds biggest fraud who ever lived. The double slit experiment is a fraud. The slit acts like a radio antenna and is just relaying the original signal through the medium of the slit material itself. Miller found an aether speed of 10m/s which is exactly gravity's speed. http://www.cellularuniverse.org... http://www.fractaluniverse.org... With the one particle in 3 states theory all the forces and elements of the universe can be easily explained and unified. Aether is the true source of all energy that the universe has. Its called spin energy. Spin energy is the only logical way that the universe can store energy for billions of years and then suddenly release that energy through the medium of a large celestial body like a sun. The universe is total logic and there really is no magic or uncoordinated parts.