Creationism has made verified predictions.

Con argues that the predictions given are "one off." This is clearly false. The predictions made can be made again and will in all probability be verified. It is like eclipse predictions. They are certainly not "one off." In spite of Con"s assertions that the theory cannot be tested, he proceeds to provide arguments that he thinks falsifies creationism. According to Con, eyewitness accounts is unreliable because the testimony is merely what the witness thinks. Using reductio ad absurdum, a detective presenting evidence in court cannot take his eyes off the evidence while explaining it, because to do so would delegate his testimony to mere thinking. In any case, God is an eyewitness to the creation of the world. It is absurd to assert that only humans can be witnesses. Con asserts that independent data confirms that the earth is old. I will address each in detail. a. Tree-ring dating. From [1]. Overlapping and correlating rings have been used to produce "chronologies" of past years. Linear sequences of rings are obtained by cross-matching tree ring patterns from living trees and those from older dead wood... By assuming the outer ring records the most recent year and that each ring signals one year, a researcher can determine the "date" of a particular ring simply by counting rings... Scientists have observed that numerous "normal" conditions can produce an extra ring or no ring at all...Unusual storms with abundant rainfall interspersed with dry periods can produce multiple rings, essentially one per major storm. Thus, the basic assumption of tree ring dating is demonstrably in error. b. Will respond in dating methods critique. c. I assume Con is talking about the Green River Formation. The idea has been refuted in [2]. "Near Kemmerer in Wyoming the Green River Formation contains two volcanic ash (tuff) layers, each about two to three centimetres thick...The two ash layers are separated by between 8.3 and 22.6 centimetres of shale layers... geologists found that the number of shale layers between the ash beds varied from 1160 to 1568, with the number of layers increasing by up to 35% from the basin centre to the basin margin! The investigators concluded that this was inconsistent with the idea of seasonal "varve" deposition in a stagnant lake." d. Ice cores. I will not reply to this highly general argument. I will merely give a reference to a creationist response [3]. Radiocarbon dating. Con tries to guard against the arguments about assumptions by using Ar-Ar. He does not recognize that the starting ratio is an assumption. This assumption plagues all radiocarbon dating methods. There is also the assumption that the "clock" starts "ticking" once the sediments is laid down. This has been shown to be false by creationist dating of Mt. St. Helens sediment. The objection that it is false because of the obviously false starting ratio is a blatant expose of the starting ratio assumption. Sand dating: Once again, starting assumptions. Prediction about magnetic fields false: Con tries to gain credit in saying "I succeeded in tracking [it] down..." I provided the reference quite clearly. Con sets up a strawman by saying that there is no "aim"[sic] that dipole coefficient is revealed in the Bible. This is not what creationists says, but is a total misinterpretation of creationists. The assertion that the guess was merely "good" is refuted by the fact that all other predictions were 100,000 times that of Humphreys". If it was merely a "good" prediction, why did not other scientists use it? The objections raised by Con and Thompson are really cases of special pleading. I do not find any statements to the effect that there must not be convections. Notice that Con uses an argument to silence, "beyond the capacity of present computers." Creationists like Humphreys argue from what data we do have. Citing a non-existent simulation is utterly dishonest. It is also a logical fallacy and should be removed from this debate. "The dynamo theory was given strong support". Well, so was Humphrey"s theory, with satellite measurements. Furthermore, I would like to fault Con for providing a link to "Scientists on a high after finding tall gene." Utterly ridiculous. Tallness has nothing to do with the dynamo theory. Notice that Con dismisses data out of hand, by citing a news article, no less. Furthermore, only one scientist was cited sceptical of the data. Extrapolating one to "scientists", implying a majority, is really dishonest debating tactics. Con starts with the assumption that creationists magnetic theories are false. By doing so, he assumes that creationism only explains the last 10,000 years. The source cited states, "The graph shows the strength of Earth's magnetic field over the past 800,000 years. The last reversal of Earth's magnetic field was 780,000 year ago. The direction of the magnetic field has been "normal" (meaning "like it is today") since then." This is clearly falsified by the data I have provided. It clearly shows reversals have happened more than once. Monotheism before polytheism: Con uses hand waving to squiggle his way out of this. He dismisses the data, although the reference I cited would show that reputed scholars believe this to be the case. Stephen Langdon of Oxford, "the history of the oldest civilization of man is a rapid decline from monotheism to extreme polytheism and widespread belief in evil spirits." This is just one instance. Flood: It is accepted consensus by all geologists that the past earth was much flatter in that sea valleys were shallower and mountains were shorter. If all the earth was even, no mountains, no valleys, there would be enough water to cover the surface by 3 km. Conspiracy: Nowhere have I stated that there is a conspiracy. This argument is a strawman and should be removed from the debate. I will restate in different form. Mainstream scientists generally are disparaging of creationists, especially creation models. Thus, for aspects of creationists models to be incorporated into secular models is quite an indication of the strengths of the creationist models. Conclusions: I have thoroughly refuted all of the objections made by Con to the verified predictions. I have also faulted him for faulty thinking. Thus, the resolution is affirmed. Vote Pro. 1. http://www.icr.org... 2. http://creation.com... 3. http://creation.com...