Homosexuality is not a sin

Thanks for the debate. Now to continue. Rebuttals: "We rely on the English version as long as it is translated correctly. I have proven that it is not." You have not proven it is not translated correctly. You simply said so, but there is no proof supporting it. Because of such, all points given about translation remain invalid. " Galatians 5 and the other verses I quoted in my second post agree with the Greek text. Can you prove that they do not agree with the Greek?" Can you prove they can? No you can't, and you haven't. I already considered them as well, as you can see in my previous arguments. ""There is no single word in Hebrew or Greek which lends itself to a simple word-for-word translation of "homosexual." The word appeared in English for the first time in 1912 and in the Bible for the first time in the 1946 RSV in 1 Corinthians 6:9. http://www.religion-online.org...... There is a Hebrew and Greek word for "homosexual" NOW, but the Bible was not written NOW. That puts an end to your argument." How does it put in end to it? I have proven even though homosexual may not have been dated back then (even though it has been) sexually immoral has also. Sexual immorality as I have already explained includes homosexuality. To add on, your source is unreliable. This educator did not demonstrate any proof whatsoever that it was introduced in this period. He could of made random numbers, considering this is but a blog/essay. I have already proven that homosexuality and sexually immoral were both words in Hebrew, proving thwey "The verse you quoted in 1 Timothy uses the same word "arsenkoites" and I have already shown that no one knows for certain what Paul meant when he used that word. You have not offered evidence to show that "sexually immoral" refers to homosexuals, it is simply your opinion. Repeating it does not make it so." I showed a source demonstrating proof. "Fist of all, killing someone would not be loving, so it would still be a sin, so your argument is absurd. Homosexuality does not harm anyone and certainly is not "unloving to your neighbor", however, your judgement IS. The purpose of the law is so that sin would INCREASE! Romans 5:20, "The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more..." To sum this part up, I never said we don't sin anymore, but Galatians 5:14 tells us how not to sin. You still have not shown how homosexuality fits into that definition." I have proven homosexuality is a sin according to the bible in both new and old covenants. Because of such, HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN. "1) Homosexuality is NOT condemned in the Old or New Testament." Old testament "Leviticus 18:22 "Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)" New testament "1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God." As you can see, it is condemned in both new and old testament. I have proven this various times through each round. "2) I have proven there was no Greek nor Hebrew word for "homosexuality" the time the Bible was written." I have proved it was, you put a random source with no proof backing it up. Your points of translation are invalid. "3) My opponent offered no proof that "sexually immoral" includes homosexuals, but did say, " And if they didn't use homosexuals, they may have also used "sexually immoral" which I am pretty sure was dated back then. Since both mean the same, it is highly possible that it was in the Bible." He goes on and on to say that he has FACTS to back up his claims, but clearly in this case, it is ALL his opinion. I'm not interested in his opinion, just the facts. "Pretty sure" is pretty pathetic." Well that was a rude comment. And I have proven sexually immoral was in the bible, and that HOMOSEXUALITY IS PART OF IT. "You say that "translation has nothing to do with it", then can I write my own translation of the Bible in English and would you agree to use that one? If not, why not? "Translation" has nothing to do with it, right? Yes I did ask you to prove that it is a sin NOW. You have failed to do so. You said that I proved "nothing". I have shown that your "proof texts" are nothing but mistranslations of the original manuscripts. You don't accept it as proof." The reason I wouldn't believe you is because you have no experience with Hebrew, and you did not legally create it. Furthermore, why would I believe someone's translation of the bible when they can't even admit homosexuality was in it, even though it clearly was as I have proven? "I'm not sure what you meant by "it", but if you are referring to the word "homosexual" I have proven that it was never in the original Greek nor Hebrew text. It did not appear until 1946 in the Revised Standard Version." No proof "1) In closing, one might ask WHY I mentioned the other verses that Christians attempt to use to prove that homosexuality is a sin. To be honest, I figured I would beat him to the "punch". At this point, I'm not sure he would have possessed the knowledge to do so in retrospect. These verses have not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the Bible condemns homosexuality. It does condemn homosexuality in certain cases, (adultery, rape, lust, ect.) just as it condemns heterosexuality in the same cases." First of all, I would like to point out my opponent agreed with me, leading to somewhat of a concession. However, I have already proven it condemns homosexuality in the bible, and my opponent was unable to prove it wasn't. His main excuse was translation, which I proved wrong. His second excuse was other verses, which I also proved wrong. "2) My opponent seems to think that ANY English Bible is acceptable as long as it was written recently. He fails to understand that the Bible was written thousands of years ago and that sometimes we must look at the original language that it was written in order to fully comprehend meaning. The Greek and Hebrew does trump the English language given the fact that the Bible was not written in English." Though it may not be correct (even though it is) my opponent asked if it was in the bible. Since it is in the English bible, I have proven my point. "3) My opponent only offered 4 verses to defend his position for which he offered no evidence that the word "homosexual" was in the original manuscripts. I have offered evidence of when the word was translated and put into the Bible in 1946 in the Revised Standard Version. He has not shown that the verses in Leviticus have anything to do at all with 2 committed and loving members of the same sex. I have proven that it had to do with "a male laying with a male in the bedding of your wife (adutery). Adultery is NOT homosexuality." You have offered no valid proof whatsoever. My verses came directly from the bible. I have already proven that homosexuality did not come in the bible in 1946. I have proven in the bible homosexuality is a sin with the correct verses I demonstrated. "4) Last of all my opponent has not dealt completely with Galatians 5:14 where it says, "Then entire law is summed up into one; love your neighbor as yourself". My opponent has offered not one shred of evidence that homosexuality is "not loving your neighbor as yourself". Until he can, HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A SIN!" Nice spelling of "neighbour". And loving your neighbour is not the same thing as having a romantic relationship with them. If it was like that, everyone would be sinning because everyone would be committing an act of adultery. So now to prove I have won this debate. My opponent's excuses were proven wrong. The verses from the bible were proven right. Since I have demonstrated that homosexuality is a sin in both new and old testament, my point is proven. Because of such, my opponent has no valid arguments to prove that homosexuality is not a sin according to the bible.