Goku will win a fight against Superman if not equally match him

Well, this is a complete surprise. My opponent has made his closing arguments, and then conceded the debate to me. Nevertheless, I'll now provide my final rebuttals and conclude the debate. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Rebuttals____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________I would like to ask Con whether he believs that if Superman lost all his powers but kept the skills and qualities he gained from his martial arts training, would he be able to defeat Goku? Well, that is a difficult question. For the record, I maintain that while Superman may not be able to win, there isn't sufficient data to prove Goku's victory. In any case, there is nothing Goku can do to rob Superman of his powers, so the question is moot. .. .Note that Superman would lose his super strength and speed, whereas Goku still have sper strength and speed, because it came from his martial arts training. Goku's super strength and speed DID NOT come from his martial arts training. From the start of the debate, Pro has been attributing many of Goku's qualities to be the result of his martial arts training, which is NOT TRUE. Goku's super strength and speed are a result of his saiyan blood, which makes him stronger every time he recovers from fatigue/injuries. Note that Goku was born with a power level of 2. . http://dbzwarriors.com...This only means that GOKU WAS NO DIFFERENT FROM A NORMAL HUMAN AT BIRTH. His tremendous growth was a result of his saiyan heritage, and not Kami's or Roshi's training. If goku loses his powers i. e. his saiyan blood, then he'll be like a normal human with martial arts skills, MUCH LIKE SUPERMAN, to whom losing his powers means losing the specialties of his kryptonian blood. This is also why I stated earlier that there is insufficient data to determine the victor. ------------------------------------------Therefore, by practicing martial arts, your concentration will increase. .. The "concentration" that Pro is referring to here is the reflexive prowess and motor skills required to be proficient in combat. I would like to point out that flight and ki manipulation FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT from the principles that Pro is referring to. As I stated earlier, these skills are SUPPLEMENTARY, and NOT A PART of conventional martial arts training. I remember everytime we begin training, we would have 15 minutes of meditation. I'm sorry if I hurt my opponent's sentiments by stating that one of his older sources was unreliable. I respect Pro's master and his skills, but as I've stated before, the objective of meditation in this particular context is to achieve proficiency in combat. I'll provide an example to make things clearer:When you learned to ride a motorcycle, did the trainer teach you how to perform a wheelie? Of course not. Performing stunts is fundamentally different, but still a supplement to the art of driving. Likewise, in the Dragon Ball universe, flight and ki control are a supplement to martial arts, while remaining fundamentally different. I believe I've made my point clear. ------------------------------------------However, he was able to perform many techniques after seeing it once such as the kamehameha wave and the afterimage technique. Pro seems to have ignored a point I made earlier. I'll re-state myself:-The kamehameha wave is a basic attack. All one needs to do is continuously keep thrusting one's ki so that it surges forward as a wave. Goku did it because he was naturally "good" with energy techniques. It is an inborn talent. While impressive, it's not even remotely comparable to Superman's eidetic memory. -The afterimage technique is ALSO a very elementary technique. It is based on the human eye's limitations in persistence of vision. All one has to do is move very fast in an multi-oscillatory motion. Such techniques are easy to perform for someone with adequate speed and power. Okay, I'll admit that Goku did better than most, but Superman's learning abilities, like his sight, are ABSOLUTE. It's like comparing a huge number, say, a centillion, with infinity itself. ------------------------------------------. .. I can think of several situations in which he would've used this time traveling ability against his enemies when he struggled for an example with Darkseid. Well, Darkseid is just as potent (if not more) as Superman. He can easily follow Superman back in time. He's LITERALLY a god, after all. Also, note that being able to travel back in time does not mean infinite speed. Consider this:-Superman is at point A. He is asked to fly to point B, which is, say, a lightyear away. He starts exactly at midnight. -He flies for a while, eventually enters hyperspace, and flies back in time. -He comfortably reaches point B exactly at midnight. -Now, since it's still midnight, the TIME TAKEN FOR SUPERMAN TO TRAVEL ONE LIGHTYEAR FROM A TO B IS ZERO. -Since (speed) = (distance)/(time),Superman's speed = (1 lightyear)/0 = ∞ (infinity) So, I have just proved, mathematically, that Superman can achieve infinite speed, which, as I've already proved earlier, GOKU CANNOT. ------------------------------------------Gotenks, the fusion between his son and Vegeta's son once performed a ki technique called "galactic donut" that binds opponents. What my opponent has NOT stated, is the fact that Majin Buu managed to break free of it. This proves that the galactic donut can be broken by strength, and hence, just like the Nyoi-Bo, poses no threat to Superman. ------------------------------------------Pro's arguments about black holes and radiation are full of scientific inaccuracies. I shall point them out. he can see the entire electromagnetic spectrum, but NOWHERE does it say he can see RADIATION. All forms of radiation are nothing but ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES. . http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu...;As a matter of fact, in order to SEE radiation, LIGHT IS NEEDED. Absolutely not. Radiation can be detected by various devices. In Superman's case, since he can see electromagnetic waves, he can see radiation by that very fact. On top of that, RADIATION IS SLOWER THAN LIGHT. Not at all. Light itself is a type electromagnetic wave. Radiation is exactly as fast as light. This is actually a well-known fact. . http://cmb.physics.wisc.edu...Furthermore, superman does not have eyes in the back of his head, therefore his vision is limited to what's in front of him. Superman has a 180 degree field of vision. If he doesn't see Goku (or anyone else) in front of him, he'll simply turn back and see successfully. Doesn't really take a genius to figure that out. I believe I have now successfully defended my statement about Superman's sight being absolute. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Conclusion____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________-Superman's ability to learn techniques instantly is far superior to Goku's, and though Pro is right in saying it wouldn't help anyone during the fight, my point is that it'll help him BEFORE the fight. This ability is a pivotal factor in deciding that SUPERMAN'S MARTIAL ARTS IS IN NO WAY INFERIOR TO GOKU'S. -Pro himself has admitted that Superman's strength is greater than Goku's. Add to this the fact that Goku does not have a sizeable advantage in martial arts either, and we can infer that even before discussing other factors, Goku is already at a disadvantage. -Pro's statements about Superman being blinded in the vicinity of a black hole are EXTERMELY INACCURATE. I have managed to adequately prove that SUPERMAN'S SIGHT CANNOT BE COMPROMISED IN ANY WAY without compromising the opponent' sight as well. As such, Superman's senses are, overall, far superior to Goku's. -Goku's speed is not infinite, as there are constraints of arm movement and brain signals when using instant transmission. -On the other hand, I have proved that by virtue of time travel, Superman can achieve infinite speed. -Goku's remarkable endurance and tenacity is no match for Superman's immunity to fatigue. His power pole cannot harm Superman either. -All in all, Goku cannot match Superman in a fight, let alone defeat him. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Now that I've refuted all of my opponent's arguments, I can accept his concession of the debate without any guilt. I thank Pro for a deeply enjoyable debate. I had a great time. The rest is up to the voters. All I have left to say is this: Superman's faster, stronger, tougher and smarter. Pro conceded.