Resolved: Post 9.11 security measures outweigh the harms to personel freedom

AgroterrorismRigt now you're just making claims without any evidence to back them up, so I'd like you to provide two things. Th first is proof that the anti-agroterrorism bill you support has actually done its job and stopped aggroterrorism. You keep saying that agroterrorism hasn't suceeded, so the increased security measures must be working, but you never even bothered to show any insances in which someone attempted to harm the agricultural secto of our economy and failed to do so because of the securitymeasures put in place because of the legislation. If it doesn't stop anything, then it harms personal freedom without increasing security and is completely irrrelevant to this debate. Also, I'd like you to povide some sort of evidence or reasoning to substantiate your claim that " the Agricultural industry is key to our economy so in turn if we lose our agg we lose our country because we know the economic situation were in now... just imagine if we were to lose 100 BILLION in profit gains from agriculture". Our economy consists of more than just agriculture. Although the loss of agriculture may be harmul, you have provided no evidence to support the claim that the loss of agriculture would result in us "loosing our country". Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs"She makes this argument saying 'WELL WE NEED THE FREEDOM TO SECURE OUR FOOD" well nobody said you didn't it just another bladent statement that "AFTER 9.11 THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT TO GETCHA?!" it makes no sense she dosn't back up any of her arguments with any evidence please prefer my EVIDENCE over her ANALYTIC S"I never once made the statement that the government is "out to getcha", and I challenge you to find a quote of me saying that. All you've done here is made an insult, while neglecting to actually refute my argument. You have also neglected to rovide any reasoning that the voters should "prefer my EVIDENCE over her ANALYTIC S".'WHO SAID THAT THE U.S. TRAVELS ACROSS BORDERS TO FARM IT'S DOMESTIC PRODUCTS"I don't know, it wasn't me. griculture is more than just farms, there is also the machinery and equipment involved. Your argument would seem to suggest that all of it is produced here. Care to provide any evidence for that?USA PATRIOT ActI'm sorry for not providing evidence before, here's some.This first piece of evidence directly contradicts your statement "The Justice Department's inspector general (who is required by the Patriot Act to examine the use of the act and report any abuse twice a year) has reported that there have been no instances in which the Patriot Act has been invoked to infringe on civil rights or civil liberties." An audit of the FBI done by the Justice Department found that the FBI was abusing the Patriot Act. http://www.guardian.co.uk...Inone case, the Patriot Act was used to seize funds in bank accouts in Belize put there by a fugitive lawyer. This case as hardly terrorism. http://www.commondreams.org..."For example, at a Judiciary Committee hearing on the Patriot Act, Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said: "I have never had a single abuse of the Patriot Act reported to me. My staff . . . asked (the ACLU) for instances of actual abuses. They . . . said they had none." and P.S. the aclu stands for AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION so im sure if there had every been some instance of abuse they would have already blew it up and everyone would know about it :D" This statement is incorrect. The ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Patriot Act in 2003. Contrary to you statement, the ACLU is very much involved in fighting the Patriot Act. http://articles.cnn.com..."And even if you don't buy that all that the government can do is check your library records, phone records, shopping records, etc. What do all of these things have in common..... what do they have in common.... OH YEAH you sign a TERMS AND CONDITIONS saying that you allow the government to access your personal information whenever they want so in all actuality there is no enfrengment of freedoms because you told the government that they could :D"Care to quote the Terms of Service on that? Not only have you provived no evidence to show that the ToS actually says that, but you have not acknowledged that the Patriot Act has no clause in it saying that it is only valid if someone agrees to it. That would contraict the whole purpose of having the Patriot Act in the first place, because people with things to hide aren't going to agree to have them looked at.