Ultimate Team War - Gateway Planet 2

1. Hit 'em fast and hard Charizard needs a running charge to use Skull Bash [1]. This gives Bowser ample time to realize the Skull Bash and counter with a punch. My opponent claims that Bowser would get a broken knuckle. However, he was even able to punch his overpowered Dark self, and his knuckles weren't broken. The result would be the cancelling of both attacks. This would halt Charizard, allowing Bowser to follow up with another punch in the stomach, eventually KOing Charizard. Bowser's body was designed to contain fire, as evidenced by the Flame Pipe. He would easily survive. Additionally, if Charizard's neck is bitten in half, fire won't even reach Bowser's insides. Apparently, no online source is available to evidence Toadbert's mention of doubling weight, although I am sure that that is what he said in the game. There is no reason why Bowser could not initiate a Body Slam while grabbed by Charizard. If Bowser uses Body Slam right as Charizard lets go, he'll easily careen back to Gateway Planet. My opponent calls Mario "an ordinary plumber." This is false. Mario has been demonstrated to have super strength multiple times [2]. Charizard is actually much weaker than Mario. Now, if Charizard ever does appear to be succeeding, the Jump Helmet can allow Mario to jump powerfully on Charizard's head, knocking Charizard out of the sky and back to the ground. When Charizard charges with Skull Bash, Bowser would cancel his Vacuum, so Peach and Sakura would not be lifted. Any rubble sent at Mario and Luigi would be destroyed by hammers. They would both be able to jump to safe ground, easily avoiding attacks until Bowser forced Charizard back down, in which case Bowser would eat Peach and Sakura easily. My opponent claims that Sakura and Peach have more destructive power than Mario and Luigi. However, Peach is rather slow with Rage, and cannot catch up to the twins, quickly running out of Emotion. A hammer may not counter a punch, but a jump on Sakura's head would. Charizard's fire would be easily dodged. Mario and Luigi are far too agile for my opponent's entire team to catch them. In the end, Bowser would have eaten both Sakura and Peach. He would then curl up into a spike ball to knock Charizard out of the air, allowing for a Mighty Meteor finish. 2. Operation Shield Bowser's throat could easily withstand a flamethrower to allow for Bowser to chomp Charizard's neck. Mario and Luigi will just run around until Peach's Rage runs out, allowing for the twins to eliminate her, Sakura, and Charizard with a Mighty Meteor. I have already pointed out that the Meteor's speed does not allow for dodging, and how Mario and Luigi's Excellent!! timing does not allow for misses. Bowser is far from clumsy, except during his temporary overweight state. Bowser easily defeated all enemies pitted against him by Fawful. If Charizard charges in with Skull Bash, PUNCH! If Charizard dives in with Steel Wing, DUCK! (Or PUNCH!, if the dive is low enough.) (Note that when ducking, Bowser retracts into his shell, with his shell countering any aerial attacks.) Charizard has no moves that cannot be countered by Bowser. Bowser, however, has flame breath, which can do minor damage to Charizard, adding up over time. If Sakura and Peach attempt to help, Mario and Luigi would destroy all three with a Mighty Meteor, and Bowser ends up eating Peach and Sakura. My opponent claims that Sakura has unlimited healing powers. Such an unlimited ability would make her easily above street-level. If Sakura tried to toss Bowser off the planet, he would turn around and punch her. Should she actually succeed in grabbing Bowser, Mario and Luigi could stop her with a Green Shell. Is there any evidence that Peach being behind Charizard can heal him? This would be extremely limited healing, given Peach's limited Emotion power. In conclusion, Bowser would dodge all of Charizard's attacks, retaliating with punches and flames, eventually KOing Bowser. Sakura and Peach can be eaten. Flaw: 1a. A warp pipe is only wider than Mario, not taller, so it's about the size of a fat human. It can easily be eaten by definition. It would make absolutely no sense for Bowser to be born with warp pipes leading all over the Mushroom Kingdom in his body. It seems much more likely that the pipes were present at the meeting at the beginning of the game, as quick access to get anywhere by those at Peach's Castle, and Bowser ate them all in his second invasion. 1b. Bowser will eat Sakura and Peach whenever possible. Should my opponent leave any opportunity for this to occur, both of them will be promptly eliminated, leaving a fairly doomed Charizard. 2m. My opponent brought up Super Mario 64, so it's fairly obvious that we are skirting the lines of canons. Mario Kart is officially part of the overall Mario series, as well. I have already shown Mario's nature to be evident in the Subspace Emissary storyline. In Mario Kart, characters get burned by lava. Additionally, in this case, Peach only needs to be knocked unconscious (much better than being burned by lava). 2l. Peach's Joy attack does not send things at speeds of 11km/s. 2b. For inhaling, Bowser's goal would be to eat Peach, so of course he'd go all out. Peach wouldn't be harmed while eating, but merely knocked unconscious. She'd obviously survive, as nobody died when Bowser ate them. Ever. 2ssb. Mario is always willing to fight Peach if they are on opposite teams, which is the same scenario as this one. My opponent claims that I need better evidence, but most games don't pit Mario and Peach against each other, so unless games like Mario Kart and SSB count, neither side has evidence. Peach would obviously tell that Sakura is lying once she starts pounding the ground destructively. With Peach knocked out, I wouldn't have to worry about her, as well. Ultimately, one other thing to remember is the Retry Clock. Mario, Luigi, or Bowser could use this right before they fade into unconsciousness (they don't seem to be able to die), allowing for a retry, in which case, my team would start by initiating a different plan, with Bowser knowing Charizard's moves ahead of time and whatnot. This would allow my team to easily adapt to Team CON. Conclusion: There are many points in which Peach and Sakura can both be eaten. Bowser is not clumsy, and can easily take on Charizard. Mario and Luigi, with their Excellent!! timing, can use their "fancy" items to deal tremendous damage to Team CON. Mario and Luigi are obviously willing to knock Peach unconscious for victory in games, this being no different. 1. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net...(move)#In_the_anime 2. http://www.mariowiki.com...