In the United States organized political lobbying does more harm than good.

I would like to clarify something with not only my opponent but also the voters. My opponent has agreed that lobbying is "evil" and does harm. If a tool like lobbying is being misused and is doing more harm than good why have it? My opponent cannot provide one example of good lobbying you can clearly see lobbying is not needed and does do more harm than good. The resolution says lobbying not lobbying being taken out doing harm so my opponents argument about if or if not lobbying is in place is unresolutional. He said he has taken the path to basically just defend but under the framework i provided in the first round that my opponent agreed to by accepting this debate says otherwise. If you look i said this will be a PF (public forum) style debate. Under the PF style not only do you have to provide a case it is completely different from a CX (cross examination) debate which my opponent is going under. CX basically says pro has o provide the evidence about how it works and all con has to do is refute it. In PF it is completely different, you both have to provide times it has worked and hasn't worked and provide arguments and a case in the first round. So the route my opponent has gone under is not under the framework and is automatically a loss. If tt doesn't convince you i will refute his arguments anyways. My opponent defends his arguement i attacked by saying that "I argued that that particular conduit being used for corruption is coincidence." But then he goes on to say this "I do not deny that organized lobbying can be used corruptly" this is my exact point. If lobbying or something is being used corruptly most of the time which i have proven and my opponent agreed to then why use it. Lobbying is clearly doing more harm than good if it is corrupting like my opponent agreed to. Then he said "I would not deny the bible can be use corruptly." Im pretty sure the bible doesnt corupt the government and "do more harm than good" and i really don't understand how he can say the bible can be used corruptly! My opponent then attacked my point about the congressional research foundation on how they give information the congressmen and women need. He then attacked that point by saying "need to be given to them by someone who cares and can preach it with passion.....that is really what all our lobbyist are people who preach" No lobbyists bribe and are corrupt like you agreed to. Not only that by why have someone preach it when you can get non biased facts and information from a more reliable source. I will provide an analogy for an example- lets say you wanted to buy a computer. On one hand you can look at all the facts and compare something from the statistics non bias or anything. On the other hand we have someone "preaching" to you about their computer and then bribe you with money! Hardly no statistics or anything. Same deal with lobbying, my opponent is trying to convince you that bribing with money and preaching congressmen is more effective than the hard facts non biased so you can make your own decision! My opponent attacks my third point by saying that it was a ridiculous source (even though he provided you with no evidence or "sources")by saying that "his(meaning mine) voice and the voice of business owners are being represented perfectly at the same time" yes they are i agree with my opponent on that but what he is failing to see is that the businesses are being heard more because of their money and the power and my opponent still hasn't refuted that. He said that we cant hold our representatives accountable for failure to represent our voice's when our voices are mute to start of with. We can see that actually they are by public interest groups hence the name. Again business groups since they have more lobbyists and more money they are being heard over our interests which is doing more harm than good. It's unfair as well as unjust. Which has not been refuted. My opponent than said that basically it is good that ONLY the richer more wealthier people are getting their voice heard. One that is completely unjust and two you are forgetting the nature of my argument. What i was meaning is that business groups that have the money are getting more heard than the public interest groups which you have not refuted so obviously you agree. Then you said that smart people which are the more wealthier should affect how our country is run. WOW, that means than less than 1% of The United States should vote because that is how many "rich people" are i our country. Not only that but basically your agreeing that people that aren't as successful like the middle class or the poor should not get their voice heard. That is not on offensive but it does more harm than good. Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they are smarter than anyone else most of the time it's quite the opposite. Look at celebrities these days like Paris Hilton do you want her to run the government? You said it yourself "then all of the stupid people who cant be wise with there money would get there voices heard as well" To answer my opponents silly question about "HAVE YOU TOLD CYNTHIA LUMMIS YOUR CONCERNS?" No because she is too busy getting corrupted by the lobbyists bribing her with money! What about you? That's why we have public interest groups but again unfortunately they are getting less heard because of the business groups. Who is a congressman or woman going to listen to more? A piece of paper from one kid in wyoming or 200,000 dollars? Answer that one. You can clearly see the Pro has one this debate. MY opponent never provided a case. My opponent never showed you why lobbying is good when i have proved otherwise. My opponent hardly followed the framework that i have provided. My opponent never provided evidence to support his reasoning. My opponent agreed that wealthier people of the united states should have more voice than 98 percent of America. His whole points again were all opinion. When can see that with lobbying your voice isn't being heard. We can also see that lobbying is wasting more government on useless projects called earmarks. Lastly we can see that lobbying is bribing and corrupting not only or congressmen and women but also corrupting the whole United States government. So from these harsh reasons i provided in this paragraph summarizing this debate you can clearly see the Pro has won this debate. Thank you and good debate.