Ignorance is bliss.

"People are born happy." That is not true. Aside from the fact they come out screaming, crying, and covered with blood, they do not have the mental capacity to identify emotions, so they do not know which emotions they feel. Considering they are the only ones who know, and they can not speak, there is no telling if they can feel any sort of bliss. So, this point is moot. "That is only one of my defenses. I have an incredibly strong immune system from drinking gallons of Florida orange juice, daily." To this, I can only say that I too enjoy the exotic flavors of oranges, especially when they pertain to the form of juice. You had a question concerning my statement that " (Bella) dreaded going to school, talking to people, etc. because she was ignorant of their reactions." Which is to say, she didn't know how they would react. "It is true that Bella was unhappy in Forks, but now she had the added burden of stressing out over Edward. If I do remember correctly, Bella's knowing Edward almost led to her own death, numerous times." Some would agree with me when I ask, "What is more blissful than death?" In my belief, that is true peace and happiness (I am Christian). However, this was not the case. Bella did have the "burdon" of stressing over Edward, but in the end she found true bliss. The intelligent path to this bliss is almost never easy. She achieved optimal happiness by doing so and she reaped the great rewards of it. (On a side note, I hate the Twilight saga with every fiber of my being, especially all of the generic spin-offs.) " I would not call it a "fairytale ending." For goodness sakes, the poor girl could not even celebrate her own birthday without getting extremely anxious and depressed over the guy." Now, she can celebrate and infinite amount of birthdays with Edward. At least for the next 4 billion years when our sun explodes. I wonder if they will die in a firey explosion (quite possible), or if they will be crushed by an infinitely dense black hole? (The song Black Hole Sun by Alice In Chains is a good song, though this is irrelivant to my case.) "Observation, definition, whatever." It would seem that you concede this point. You asked why a person can not achieve extreme happiness when ignorant. If a person is ignorant, true ignorant, they would have to be mentally incapable of thinking. Life will always have unhappinesses. "They adopt a certain melancholy that comes with knowing life's struggles. There are no babies on anti-depression pills." I have not seen people sad because they are alive to live life. Actually, I've seen people quite glad about the fact, and I've not yet seen the ones you describe. The babies comment can be refered to the point I made earlier in this round. "I am not saying that ignorance is reality. It may cause a false sense of bliss, but bliss, none-the-less. As I said before, knowledge imposes itself upon the ignorant in the form of reality." Then reality will impose upon ignorance with knowledge, always. Thus, it ruins ignorance (and then that proves there are no ignorant people in the world {ever} to base your claims upon). "Ignorance does not bring happiness. It leaves you with the happiness that, as a human, you were born with, and leaves you without unhappinesses because you do not know about them." As I've proven, people can not be born in a state of extreme happiness (bliss). =VOTE CON= (And a belated Happy Valentine's Day to you, too, Sweetheart!)