Perfection (in some aspect of life) of an individual is achievable.

Thank you to Johnicle for posting. May it be a good one! Of course: perï¿½fect [adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] –adjective 1. conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type: a perfect sphere; a perfect gentleman. 2. excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement: There is no perfect legal code. The proportions of this temple are almost perfect. 3. exactly fitting the need in a certain situation or for a certain purpose: a perfect actor to play Mr. Micawber; a perfect saw for cutting out keyholes. 4. entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings: a perfect apple; the perfect crime. 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy. 6. thorough; complete; utter: perfect strangers. 7. pure or unmixed: perfect yellow. 8. unqualified; absolute: He has perfect control over his followers. 9. expert; accomplished; proficient. 10. unmitigated; out-and-out; of an extreme degree: He made a perfect fool of himself. 11. Botany. a. having all parts or members present. b. monoclinous. 12. Grammar. a. noting an action or state brought to a close prior to some temporal point of reference, in contrast to imperfect or incomplete action. b. designating a tense or other verb formation or construction with such meaning. 13. Music. a. applied to the consonances of unison, octave, and fifth, as distinguished from those of the third and sixth, which are called imperfect. b. applied to the intervals, harmonic or melodic, of an octave, fifth, and fourth in their normal form, as opposed to augmented and diminished. 14. Mathematics. (of a set) equal to its set of accumulation points. 15. Obsolete. assured or certain. –noun Grammar. 16. the perfect tense. 17. a verb form or construction in the perfect tense. Compare future perfect, pluperfect, present perfect. –verb (used with object) 18. to bring to completion; finish. 19. to bring to perfection; make flawless or faultless. 20. to bring nearer to perfection; improve. 21. to make fully skilled. 22. Printing. to print the reverse of (a printed sheet). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1250–1300; < L perfectus, ptp. of perficere to finish, bring to completion (per- per- + -fec-, comb. form of facere to do1 + -tus ptp. suffix); r. ME parfit < OF < L as above] —Related forms perï¿½fectï¿½edï¿½ly, adverb perï¿½fectï¿½er, noun perï¿½fectï¿½ness, noun —Synonyms 1, 2. See complete. 4. unblemished; faultless. —Usage note A few usage guides still object to the use of comparison words such as more, most, nearly, almost, and rather with perfect on the grounds that perfect describes an absolute, yes-or-no condition that cannot logically be said to exist in varying degrees. The English language has never agreed to this limitation. Since its earliest use in the 13th century, perfect has, like almost all adjectives, been compared, first in the now obsolete forms perfecter and perfectest, and more recently with more, most, and similar comparison words: the most perfect arrangement of color and line imaginable. Perfect is compared in most of its general senses in all varieties of speech and writing. After all, one of the objectives of the writers of the U.S. Constitution was "to form a more perfect union." See also complete, unique. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, ï¿½ Random House, Inc. 2006. http://dictionary.reference.com... I assume my opponent is familiar with the full definition, etc., and agrees the above definition is correct. I take it that we are not discussing grammar, botany, or mathematics. This was primarily for the reference of the reader. While there may not be anything wrong with your argument technically, I do have some qualms, particularly with your usage of the word "perfect." First and foremost, I put forward that there is an individual and therefore subjective judgement required in labeling a person, act, or other thing "perfect." Second, "perfection" has certain connotations that, I will be arguing, make it transcendentally ideal - something to be pursued continuously but never quite attained - similar to, say, objectivity in respect to journalism, or honesty in respect to politics. As far as your examples so far are concerned, you are not technically wrong (except for (3)), but use trivialities and extremes to prove your point. 1- Why not just stop at "Kid spells the word dog correctly"? The kid is simply correct. I see no justification in qualifying such a triviality with "perfect." 2- Same thing. The meaning of this usage in real life can only amount to a joke. Perhaps it would even be more perfect to say "Someone is nice one day and a jerk another day. He is bi-polar." And as *every person* is imperfect and the same thing could be said about them (in your original statement), it is arguably an incorrect usage of "perfect" in-itself: this would be similar to every human that has ever existed or will exist having had blond hair - we would not qualify "hair" with "blond" because everyone is the same anyway. Concerning both examples (1) and (2), I suppose I am asking "What is the point?" If this is the full depth of your argument, even if you were correct, then it will make for a weak debate I fear. 3- This example stretches the bounds of the subjectivity of the use of "perfect." Every person will have a separate judgement on this one. You are definitely wrong for the majority of the existence of planetary polar regions. I challenge your criteria that "Any external acts are not a part of the individual. So if the sun rose and fell, it would be irrelevant if there were clouds because the individual did it's job." External acts can be excluded, for a moment perhaps, but not external judgements - for if you can judge this to be perfect, can I not judge it to be too hot if I am in the middle of the desert and be equally correct in my assessment? A judgement is a mental act, so you cannot really even be correct that external acts must be excluded. I challenge the second part, as well: the existence of clouds and other factors *must* be permitted into our judgement of this instance, as you said "[The sun] is perfect for bringing light and heat for that day" and not "The sun rises and falls perfectly," which would also be incorrect in that the sun does not really "rise" or "fall" at all. I further challenge that "future and past acts are irrelevant." The relevance of future and past acts is implicit in the usage of "perfect," as noted above. I reserve the right to reverse, augment, or in any way modify, without consequence, any arguments here-to-fore made. Back to you, Johnicle. Britt