God Exists

TRICKS 6:19 Attacking Biblical theology is no disproof of God. I"m quite comfortable to accept there are errors in the Bible, which I never argued was in totality the infallible word of God anyway. As historical documents, the four Gospels detailing the life of Jesus contain errors as any other historical work (ie, Josephus, Tacitus) contain errors. But these are still recognized by historians as very accurate regarding the times they record. They all agree on the four facts you childishly avoid: his burial, empty tomb, appearances, and the origin of the Christian belief in his resurrection. The Gospels are eyewitness testimony; this is evidence from their own testimony (John 1:14, 19:35; 21:24" 2 Peter 1:16; 1 John 1:3),"the "explicit acknowledgment of the "presence of eyewitness "by "those who"ve "been with Jesus and were involved in the Jesus story (Luke 1:1-3, Acts 2:24),"and those who"ve received the Jesus tradition from an eyewitnesses perspective or even have "been "the disciples of an eyewitness (Papias, Iraneus, Justin Martyr , Athanasius of Alexandra). Many scholars agree with this, among whom are F. F. Bruce, Richard Bauckham, Darrell Bock, Paul Rhodes Eddy, Gregory A. Boyd, Craig A. Evans, Craig S. Keener, and E. Earle. Ellis, Craig Blomberg, W. D. Davies, Andreas Kostenberger, Birger Gerhardsson, Samuel "Byrskog, Robert H. Stein, and many more. So if you don"t trust the Gospels as historical documents, the question is, why? If we look at the author's own descriptions of their work, it is clear that they did not intend their readers to see the account as fictional. All four Gospels have a straight-forward, narrative style which contains none of the flourish and fanciful writing of myths from that era. Both John and Luke expressly state in their Gospels that they are writing accounts of actual events. (Luke 1:1-4; John 21:24) In describing the stories and testimony that they have been preaching through the land, Peter writes: "We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For we were not making up clever stories when we told you about the powerful coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. We saw his majestic splendor with our own eyes. " (2 Peter 1:16) We need to acknowledge that there is no evidence of anyone coming forward in the first century to dispute the claims of the apostles. There are accounts of Jesus in ancient Jewish and Roman texts, and while they claim that Jesus' power came from sorcery, these sources acknowledge His life, death and even the miracles He performed. If Jesus were a fictional character, these accounts would dispute the apostle's tale, or more likely, would not exist at all. The apostles continued to preach the Gospel for the rest of their lives even though it meant torture, imprisonment and death. The idea that these accounts were fictional is totally inconsistent with the way the apostles were willing to sacrifice their lives. No one would be willing to die for a story they made up. I don"t see how Old Testament killing in the name of God proves God doesn"t exist anymore than the Spanish Inquisition proves that the Pope didn"t exist. All this means is that you disagree with how God handled these situations. That does nothing to prove he doesn"t exist. You stick on the fact that God is jealous, may I ask, what is wrong with Jealousy? If you catch your wife taking some hard dick from the other guy, would you not feel jealous? Why shouldn"t God be jealous when people like you give his worship to empty scientific theories that end up with a long lousy list of "I don"t knows" when you should be turning to him? You even have the audacity to talk about good and bad, fact is, without God there is no good or bad, right or wrong: if there is no lawgiver, then morality is just a by-product of socio-evolution, and I see no reason to think such views developed by animals could be objective. There is no morality in the animal kingdom, so you can"t justly condemn anything, not even religion, without God as a source to anchor your moral values. Now I"ll just ask you why it"s wrong to rape an innocent woman? Cause you say its wrong? Cause many millions say its wrong? Is truth decided by majority vote? Who are you, or they, to impose their values on another? True scripture like the Bible, teaches us how to avoid being a slave to fairy tale beliefs like your great, great, great, great grandmother being an ape. I don"t do good for the reward, I do it because it is the right thing to do. Who are you to judge? Evolution mixes two things together, one real, one imaginary. "Variation (microevolution) is the real part. "The types of bird beaks, the colors of moths, leg sizes, etc. are variation. Each type and length of beak a finch can have is already in the gene pool for finches. "Creationists have always agreed that there is variation within species. "What evolutionists do not want you to know is that there are strict limits to variation that are never crossed, something every breeder of animals or plants is aware of. "Whenever variation is pushed to extremes by selective breeding (to get the most milk from cows, sugar from beets, bristles on fruit flies, or any other characteristic), the line becomes sterile and dies out. "And as one characteristic increases, others diminish. "But evolutionists want you to believe that changes continue, merging gradually into new kinds of creatures. "This is where the imaginary part of the theory of evolution comes in. "It says that new information is added to the gene pool by mutation and natural selection to create frogs from fish, reptiles from frogs, and mammals from reptiles, to name a few. Do these big changes (macroevolution) really happen? "Evolutionists tell us we cannot see evolution taking place because it happens too slowly. "A human generation takes about 20 years from birth to parenthood. "They say it took tens of thousands of generations to form man from a common ancestor with the ape, from populations of only hundreds or thousands. "We do not have these problems with bacteria. "A new generation of bacteria grows in as short as 12 minutes or up to 24 hours or more, depending on the type of bacteria and the environment, but typically 20 minutes to a few hours. "There are more bacteria in the world than there are grains of sand on all of the beaches of the world (and many grains of sand are covered with bacteria). "They exist in just about any environment: heat, cold, dry, wet, high pressure, low pressure, small groups, large colonies, isolated, much food, little food, much oxygen, no oxygen, in toxic chemicals, etc. "There is much variation in bacteria. "There are many mutations (in fact, evolutionists say that smaller organisms have a faster mutation rate than larger ones). "But they never turn into anything new. "They always remain bacteria. "Fruit flies are much more complex than already complex single-cell bacteria. "Scientists like to study them because a generation (from egg to adult) takes only 9 days. "In the lab, fruit flies are studied under every conceivable condition. "There is much variation in fruit flies. "There are many mutations. "But they never turn into anything new. "They always remain fruit flies. "Many years of study of countless generations of bacteria and fruit flies all over the world shows that evolution is not happening today. Con hasn"t refuted my 3 main arguments - the origin of the universe, the existence of objective moral values, and the facts concerning Jesus" resurrection. All he has done is attack irrelevant religious doctrines and throw insults at religious people. I"ve debunked his defunct theory of evolution, which he provides no evidence for.