God exists

I know this is the most fashionable topic of debate in this community – usually following a highly predictable pattern. But please don't run away yet. I believe my approach is a bit different. However, I digress a lot before coming to the argument. So I will plead for some patience. Can we `prove' God exists? What kind of `evidence' are we looking for – which might confirm or deny God's existence? I will differentiate between two kinds of proofs. I term them as the lawyer's proof and the scientist's proof. This classification is my own – so I will explain in detail. When lawyer's debate in a court, they have a particular purpose before them – to uphold the law. Consequently there are some particular concepts which govern there working. For example the `burden of proof' [1] is on the plaintiff and the defendant is `presumed to be innocent until proven guilty' [2]. People cannot be forced to give evidence against themselves [3], and so on. These concepts are very important for the sake of a just society. However this is not the kind of evidence we are looking for. This is not a court. If it is – my submission is – the case is beyond its jurisdiction [4]! Moreover, whatever be its conclusion, this court is clearly incapable of enforcing its judgment! I think what we are looking for is a scientist's kind of evidence. In Science – many of the law ideas are diluted (not eliminated). Often there are no well defined defendant and plaintiff. There is no `justice' to be upheld. Science works best when same person searches for both arguments and counter-arguments, and thinks of ways in which the thesis can be verified or rejected. So what kind of `proofs' are considered as proof in science? I will explain with few examples. When did the scientific community start accepting theory of relativity? A certain scientist (Einstein) developed a certain theory (Theory of Relativity). He used it to predict something will happen (light will bend by this much under particular situation [5]). This was verified – and the theory was accepted. How do we prove gravity exists? Since the apple fell on Mr. Newton's head [6], (the story might not be accurate), something must have pulled it down. So gravity exists. How do we prove earth is round? Have a look at earth's photo from space [7]. That establishes the shape of earth. So do we observe any phenomenon in the world around us, which might prove God's existence? What about our own existence! Since we exist, and since we did not create ourselves, God must have created us. Of course – I am choosing ourselves as example just for the effect. In practice, I can pick anything. Look at a plant grow from a seed. Look how sun rises in the morning … A note: In most `theist vs. atheist' debates, people start debating about scientific processes. I do not need that. Look at the examples I have chosen. We know a lot (not everything) about the processes involved in growth of plant. We know why sun rises every morning. But my argument is – isn't their existence itself proof of God's existence. Sure – many of the processes are `natural'. But doesn't nature's existence proves God's existence. Organized complexity is additional evidence. However I don't want to pursue that approach. It usually leads to regions where our understanding of science is not yet developed – and unwittingly pits theists against some future advancement in science. More often – it just becomes a platform for showing oneself to be more knowledgeable than the opponent by providing links to incomprehensible sources – and pretending to understand it. --- A small confession. These arguments are really some of my half – formed ideas. I have no idea, how my opponent might respond. I am waiting eagerly. I don't want a syntactical debate. Please don't accept this debate if this condition is not acceptable to you. Thanks to the person who accepts this debate. --- 1. http://en.wikipedia.org... 2. http://en.wikipedia.org... 3. http://en.wikipedia.org... 4. http://en.wikipedia.org... 5. http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu... 6. http://en.wikipedia.org... 7. http://www.physlink.com...