the Christian god exists

Without ado lets begin! 1. We have eyewitnesses of the resurrection. 1.1 The 12 disciples The link showed what fate they chose because of their testimony of Christs resurrection. You didn't even challenge me on this one... 1.2 Ordinary people "This does not specify any people specifically who saw Jesus ressurect." This makes no difference to my point. "And appeals to eye witness testimony are usually faulty in that people have horrible judgement" The "horrible judgement" part needs explanation. "Just look at supposed alien abductions or people who believe their house is haunted." These two scenarios lack: 1. A huge number of witnesses of the same event. 2. A huge number of witnesses willing to go through tribulation for their testimony. 3. External evidence, for example, an empty tomb. 1.3 Paul "This is again eye witness testimony and no external evidence for the existence of any deity." So you gonna just ignore this? Cool. "People were willing to suffer persecution for the cause of Islam so how can they both be right?" These people said that they saw him resurrect so this is not a matter of faith. Yes, people get persecuted for many things, but their persecution involves belief and faith while the early Christians were not persecuted for what they believed but rather for what they knew. 2. The tomb was found empty 2.1 First part "A)He never existed" Can you back up this point? We have the gospels, the historians such as Tacitus and Josephus, insufficient time for a myth to develop and things that don't make sense, for example, how could someone claim to see something that doesn't exist? It's a dark road that you're taking. "B)The disciples stole his body in an effort to attract followers" Hence, they died and suffered for what they knew was a lie... "C)Jesus existed but the crucifixtion never took place" I've no idea how this is supposed to work. May you explain this theory? Also, all of your three explanations ignore the fact that Jesus was seen by others. 2.2 Second part "You may say yes but Christianity has historically been an incredible source of power. " Yes, they wanted the power of being tortured!!! Is this a joke? 3. My opponents review 3.1 Part One "Eye wintness accounts cannot be used as reliable testimony" I am providing a cumulative case and please check 1.2 which shows how of a big deal this premise is. " people can be mistaken about things as trivial as what color car they saw flee the scene of a crime." Actually, it's easier to be mistaken about small things. What are you more likely to remember, how your new friend looks or how the giant dragon that just appeared in your living room looks? Therefore, the large crowd made no mistake. 3.2 Part Two "Jesus ever existed " I still can't believe that you're going through this road, also, I have discussed this in 2.1 and I feel no need to repeat myself. "the disciples couldn't have stolen his body" Yes, the disciples stole his body and then suffered for what they knew was a lie! Furthermore, you must explain this theory, for example, how did they trick the guards? 3.3 Part Three "The Gospels SEEM genuine. That does not mean they are" I have no problem with you taking the unlikely choice. The second part with the quotations from the Bible are irrelevant to my point and so I feel no need to defend the false accusations made by my opponent. The fact remains that the gospels show extreme honesty and have a lack of propaganda when it comes to the resurrection even if there are "misogynistic" verses.