The US Won the Vietnam War

I. Paris Peace AccordsOnce the ceasefire is in effect, U.S. troops (along with other non-Vietnamese soldiers) would begin to withdraw, with withdrawal to be complete within sixty days. Simultaneously, U.S. prisoners of war would be released and allowed to return home. The parties to the agreement agreed to assist in repatriating the remains of the dead.Is this your so-called victory? It only shows what the US get from the accords is just the release of prisoners of war, isn't it?II.Prevented the Domino EffectThe idea of the domino effect is that if one country falls, then every other country will fall the entire world will be communist. However, because of our actions of bravery and strength in Vietnam, countries were so impressed that the domino effect did not happen. Everyone knows that the world is not communist today and that is because of our actions in Vietnam. Yes, there are some communist nations, but the domino effect has not occured. Vietnam is not a communist country anymore. While it is economically repressed, there have been many measures in the country to turn over to a more free market capitalist nation. [4] According to your logic, can we assume that the domino effect will only happen if the whole world is a communist? Impossible. The point here is that Vietnam insists its system of government without being affected by the US power. It’s a model of the open market economy implemented by communist countries.III. Bankrupted the Soviet UnionThe Vietnam War is part of the Cold War. This is both and strategic and logistic victory for us because the USSR was stuck sending supplies to a weak ally. Because of this, the Soviets could not focus on themselves and other, more productive allies, ultimately contributing to their demise. The Soviet Union did “go bankrupt” in 1991, but theVietnamwar ended in 1975. It did not immediately “go bankrupt” after the war. So there were many other factors which defeated it. We still cannot see the connection between the failure of the USSR and the Vietnam war. My opponent failed to further prove that the US won the war.IV. We Never Lost a BattleIncorrect, I cited a source proving that we won every battle thre. Numbers are a key factor in every war. That is why I put up casualties. Still, the number of casualties can prove nothing. The result is the US withdrew its troop from the war, signaling their failure. V. Vietnam Payed War Reparations "The reason why Vietnam paid reparations is not because of the war itself." Incorrect. The source clearly pointed out that Vietnam payed the US and other western countries in the war up to $140 million. As explained here: "This arrangement was also decisive in the release of the loans pledged at the 1993 donor conference, thereby bringing Vietnam under the trusteeship of Japanese and Western creditors. Thus twenty years after the war, Vietnam had surrendered its economic sovereignty. By fully recognizing the legitimacy of these debts, Hanoi had agreed to repay loans that had supported the U.S. war effort." [5] As we can see here, this is a big victory for the United States. Though Vietnam never received war reparations payments from the U.S. for the massive loss of life and destruction, it couldn’t deny the truth of their success. Furthermore, getting the war reparations was not the reason of involving the war for the US in the first place. I. The Reunification of Vietnam Its important to remember that this took place after the United States left. We left in 1973 after the first Vietnam War. A second war in Vietnam broke out, but South Vietnam was no longer an ally, so we did not enter South Vietnam. How could we lose a war that we were not in? We signed the peace treaty and met our objectives and that was before the second war. If theUShad the capability to stop the first Vietnam War with victory, then there would not be the second Vietnam War even existing. Just because they failed the first time and left some problems to be solved, A second war broke out. II. The War Goals We did achieve our war goals, that is why we left. Furthermore, Vietnam is no longer communist. Massive reforms as early as the 1980s because communism failed. Vietnam is starting to economically liberalize. [4,6] Remember the USwas forced to leave under serious pressure. Again, it’s the open market economy implemented by communist states, differing from capitalism. III. North Vietnam in the War Like I said, tactically, the US won every battle and killed far more North Vietnamese than the North Vietnamese killed in US troops. This is a clear tactical victory for us. The key point of victory is not about the numbers of casualties, but the strategic systems. With systems of underground tunnels and death traps, they captured American soldiers. IV. Humanitarianism People die in war. Civilian and troops casualties happen. This has nothing to do with the debate.The US lost the war morally from this stand point. How come it can be denied? V. American Soldiers After the WarMany soldiers suffer such casualties from all wars. World War 1 is probably an even better example than Vietnam, but this does not mean we lost just because several soldiers suffered massive physical and mental issues after the war. Did we lose World War 1 too?Is it comparable? Their nature is totally different. One is supported by a large population while the other is criticized by its own people. If it’s a glorious war, how come the soldiers are humiliated when arriving home and try to wipe out that period of memory?