There is no Link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer.

::Cigarettes in Hyrule:: "In the whole of the Zelda series, no game has included cigarettes [1], so there are no cigarettes in Hyrule." 1. He did a search for cigarettes on the 'ZeldaPedia' and came up with no results, but if you'll look at his search, you will notice that their are 26 separate parts of the site that one might search in and he decided to do a search of only 2 of those 26: http://zelda.wikia.com... Searching through the full 26 categories yields multiple results for 'cigarette' http://zelda.wikia.com... 2. I'm not so sure this accounts for anything anyway. Not being located on ZeldaPedia hardly proves that something doesn't exist. It just attests to the laziness of the editors. 3. A page on 'Tobacco' did exist, but there has been a clear cover-up in the works. Somebody by the name of 'Triforce 14' maliciously deleted the article while I was in the process of writing this debate: http://zelda.wikia.com... 4. 'ZeldaPedia' was not found in a Wikipedia search[1] thus ZeldaPedia must not exist to begin with, by this same logic. --- "Additionally, the staple crop of Hyrule is the pumpkin [2]. Hyrule also grows beans [3]." Additionally, the staple crop of Natives is Maize (corn)[2]. Mayans also grew potatos [3]. I don't see how this precludes Hyruleans growing tobacco any more than it did Americas ancient ancestors. --- "even given the numerous rebellious gangs in Hyrule [5], not a single reference is made to any sort of drug" Smoking was not always an act of rebellion. For the vast majority of its use, it was a common leisure time activity. Only in modern day has smoking become the act of choice of ne'er-do-wells and miscreants. Hyrule, as my opponent stated, is far more closely related to our distant past than our present time, so there is no reason to assume that we would see rebellious youth smoking. --- "It is impossible for Link to do anything that he was not programmed to do. For example, none of the Links would end up building an airplane, because there is no programmed way for Link to obtain metal, tools, etc." How do you know? Who's to say that nobody has unlocked Link's Learjet? Here's a clear picture + video of link flying: http://fox4859.deviantart.com... --- "There are absolutely no tobacco seeds or anything in any Zelda games for Link to plant and grow his own tobacco." Again, who's to say that nobody has discovered Tobacco seeds? Suppose during that time that I was trying to kill that weird old guy[4] with bombs for hours that one poorly aimed explosion didn't uncover his secret stash? Given the infinite amount of ways one could play through the story, it seems a bit outlandish to conclude such a thing. There is no way to have proof! --- "Link isn't even programmed to smoke anything. Nobody in all of Hyrule is programmed to smoke anything. In short, nobody can smoke anything in Hyrule." Hyruleans smoke things all the time: http://www.debate.org... --- "First of all, for the resolution to be true, whatever game had this absurd hack (I seriously doubt there are any) would have to actually be on. Otherwise, Link would be off, and would no longer be between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer." Then prove that the hack isn't on. --- "Secondly, just because there are stoned hippies, doesn't mean that the action of smoking cigarettes has manifested itself." Duuude...hippies, they...like...smoke a lot...[5] --- "Smoking cigarettes is an action, and actions are not confined to certain locations. For example, it is impossible for something to be between swimming and snorkeling. Sure, it might be between people that are swimming and people that are snorkeling, but those people do not come to represent the actual actions themselves." 1. Except that smoking wasn't defined as an action; it was defined as a picture. It was clearly a picture of a cigarette that was smoking (was exuding smoke) so 'smoking cigarettes' is clearly a noun + adjective, not verb + direct object. 2. Verbs can act as nouns in the form of gerunds, which end in '-ing' just as 'smoking' does.[6] 3. As PRO says, smoking cigarettes (the verb form) cannot 'be' anywhere, so to define it with a picture as he did would be nonsensical. We can only conclude that it is used as a noun. --- "Finally, lung cancer does not exist in video games, because cells do not exist in video games. Video game characters are not made up of cells, but pixels [7]. Therefore, with no cells, there is no uncontrolled cell growth, and therefore no lung cancer. " 1. Pixels can make up cells. I've played simply flash video games with cells and viri before, where the goal is to infect the cells. Because there were cells in that videogame, there is no way to conclude that cells can't be in any videogame, thus PRO needs to show why this game specifically wouldn't have cells. 2. Even if there are no cells, there is still lung cancer because cell growth is uncontrolled. Cells control their own growth inside their nuclei, therefore with no cells (and thus no nuclei) cell growth is uncontrolled. This means all of Hyrule is perpetually in a state of lung cancer. --- "However, this is to assume that a picture of Link could be a substitute for the real thing. Link is not a picture of Link, but Link." My opponent defined Link as "a fictional character, a legendary swordsman dressed in green wielding a variety of abilities and equipment, and the main protagonist in Nintendo's The Legend of Zelda series of video games" Thus, there is no 'real thing' and being 'real' is not a necessary requirement of being 'Link.' Quite the opposite, if Link were real (like this weird dude: http://www.trsrockin.com...) then he wouldn't be link. The picture certainly depicts a fictional character by the name of Link, so it fits his definition perfectly. --- "First, I would like to ask, how did you get the scene from Minish Cap onto your computer? What technology did you use? And if you did use a camera, why can't you take a picture of yourself with two smoking cigarettes in your mouth? Second, how is it that this event does not appear at all in the Minish Cap Zeldapedia articles [8]? If you're so sure that such a scene can be unlocked, why don't you add it? It would give a whole lot of credibility to your statement. Third, how can a game that came out in 2004 use a picture taken in 2007 [9]? Finally, I'd like to point out that this is merely Link between a picture of a guy smoking cigarettes and a picture of a cancerous lung. Pictures cannot sub for the real thing." First, an SD card, which can be plugged in to both the Wii and Computer. Second, because ZeldaPedia's editors are either slackers or too stupid to unlock this. Third, because that picture was copied from the game. That date is a forgery, I would suggest reporting it to authorities. Fourth, Refer to above, if it were real, we would have a problem. Because it is fictional, it fits the definition perfectly. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org... [2] http://www.eurekalert.org... [3] http://www.indepthinfo.com... [4] http://zelda.wikia.com... [5] http://www.hippierags.com... [6] http://owl.english.purdue.edu... Close call...this was submitted with under 1 minute left. Sorry for any spelling errors, no time to spell check.