Abortion on Demand Should Be Illegal

"It isn't okay to kill a child at six weeks old, however, it is acceptable to abort a fetus that is at six weeks development." Yes, I understand that that is your position; I am asking you to justify it. Why is it okay to kill one and not the other? Since we need to make laws around it, what objective reason do you have? "I was asked to elaborate on my opinion as to when the fetus should be granted the right to live, and I believe the fetus gets the right to live when it is capable of feeling, not only pain but feeling in general" Again, I understand your position; I am asking you to justify it. "Please do not use religion as an argumentative point." If you understood my point, you would know that I did not. I get my belief that we should not kill people from God. I don't care how you get it, but since our rule of law is based on this principle, I hope you agree that we should not kill human persons. "If humans have intrinsic value (In your own words) why is this so?" Now, this would have to involve God. As I said, you cannot consistently get it in any other way, but I certainly hope you have. This seems like a good time to clarify the idea of separation of church and state. This was never intended (at least in America) to mean separation of God and state. Both institutions of church and state were designed to be equally ruled by God. That's why we have laws against things like murder. I don't think you can justify this outside of self-preservation without God. "I will use this as moment to remind everyone voting that these types of absurd and egregious comments should be considered when voting. Rape is in no way comparable to abortion, in fact being much, much, much worse than abortion." Maybe you should reread my original argument again since you are clearly not understanding it in any way. I am not comparing rape to abortion, but since you ask.... Abortion is much worse in my opinion than rape since it ends a human life while rape damages one. Murder is worse than rape. If you disagree, please justify why. "There's a glaring difference between killing a child who has lived in those conditions and from preventing a fetus who doesn't know they exist from entering such a horrible circumstance." Okay, then I will change my example. You previously stated that you do not support abortion past 21 weeks. The above argument you used could also be applied to a child in the womb past that time. Why is such an argument valid for 5 weeks but not 25? If you still believe we should not kill children at 25 weeks, then you must admit the weakness of the above argument. If difficult circumstances do not justify abortion at 25 weeks, they cannot justify abortion at 5 weeks. You need a different reason. "The fetus is legally regarded as a person, so the law still applies, as you say. You also believe that the right to live of someone who needs tissue, organ, or blood from your corpse is less than a fetus who needs the same three things from it's mother?" Yes, I believe the child's right not to be torn apart is greater than the inconvenience of the mother to take care of the child. Such seems rather obvious if the fetus is a human person as you agreed. "Shame on you, for trying to emotionally bait your argument misrepresenting the holocaust and slavery. " Are you saying I ought not to have made the argument? Again, please justify that. More innocent lives have been destroyed because of abortion than slavery or the holocaust. Just because the deaths of the children are more silent, that does not make them and horrible. "Conveniently both happened because of christianity and both were driven by christian values." The Nazis were not Christians, but many of the slaveowners did claim to be. The difference is that when "Christians" do such things, they act contrary to what they are commanded to do, but when atheists do such atrocious acts, they do so in cooperation with their worldview. "This directly contradicts you saying that humans have intrinsic value purely from your belief in god, but the same belief in the same god is what caused the millions of deaths and all the anguish you are referencing." Again, I ask you to justify that. This displays simply lack of knowledge of history. Such people acted despite their worldview, not because of it. Also, if you can justify human intrinsic value without God, be my guest. You still have not properly justified why a child can be killed at 19 weeks and not 21. The only reason you gave was the lack of ability to feel pain, but this is problematic. If persons in the womb can be killed if they can't feel it, why can't others be killed painlessly? Pain it seems is an inconsistent reason to kill people. Others have used different excuses such as level of development, viability, size, etc., but all of these are inconsistent. The only consistent line to draw is at conception itself.