The Resurrection of Jesus

Thanks to Pro for being a good sport. Recently DDO was down for a while, and it just so happened that was the only time I could get on the computer ergo couldn't post in the last round. First world problems.........What I have in mind is the following question, can the claim that Jesus rose from the dead be justified on the evidence ? As such we need to look carefully at what the evidence is and is not and putting it through some critical analysis.Lets say for the sake of argument it is granted.........1) God exists (Some sort of non worldly entity that has the power among other things to raise the dead)2) Person X died3) Some people CLAIMED at some point in time God rose Person X from the deadSo even if granting the existence of God, the cruification of Jesus, the CLAIM by some people that they saw and or interacted with Jesus after this death..................you still have all your work ahead of you.PersecutionPro presents persecution as a reason as to why the miracle claim (God raised Jesus from the dead) as more probable than not.There is a few problems with this argument, if you think this kind of reasoning justifies such an inference then in order to be consistent you have to also draw such an inference to other claims where those people were persecuted for it.Are you willing to accept various competing religious claims where persecution is at play ? Islamic, Catholic, Mormons, Hindus, Jehavoah Witness, etc etc. Sure you can bite the bullet here , but my objection here is that persecution in face of said claim does not justify the inference that therefore that claim more likely is true.Moderns days miracle claims vs Jesus miracle claimsSam Harris points out..."Even if we had multiple, contemporaneous, eye witness accounts of the miracles of Jesus this would still not provide sufficient basis to believe these events had actually occurred, well why not ?First hand accounts of miracles are quite common even in the 21st century. I have met literally hundreds, of western education men and women who think that their favorite Buddhist or Hindu guru has magic powers. The powers ascribe to these gurus is every bit as outlandish as those to Jesus.The fact is people who tell these stories desperately want to believe them, all to my knowledge lack the kind of corroborating evidence we should require before believing before natures laws have being abrogated.It remains a fact that yogi and mystics are said to be walking on water, raising the dead, flying without the aid of technology, materializing objects, reading minds, foretelling the future......RIGHT NOW. In fact all these powers have being subscribed to Sathya Sai Baba the south Indian Guru by an uncountable number of eye witnesses.So consider the foundational claim of Christianity, the claim is this that miracles today of a sort that surround some one like Sathya Sai Baba become especially compelling when presented in the pre-scentific religious context of the 1st century Roman Empire." [1]What Sam is getting at here among other things I think is that there is more evidence for the miracle claims of Sathya Sai Baba than Jesus including him being raised from the dead.If Sathya Sai Baba evidence isn't enough to justify a miracle claim of his and we are justified that there is some lying/false hood/error/deceptoin involved then more so for the claim that Jesus was raised from the dead. Competing HypothesisPro did allude to competing hypothesis so I thought I would present one. The hypothesis is pretty much the same for Jesus claims or Sathya Sai Baba that being and requires no appeal to a God or the divine that being........H1) The claims of miracle X is false. People lie, people lie all the time. Whether it be sincere mistake, self deception, being conned/manipulated by others or just flat out lying people tell falsehoods.I submit this hypothesis as more probable to account and explain why the claims of said miracles whether it be claimed of Jesus or Sai Baba exist.I look forward to Pros reply.[1]