The existence of the immortal soul

Thanks Pro:Your other concept was right, when re-reading my own statement after already posting it, I notices a passage had been accidentally cut and pasted above where it was meant to be. Giving you the incorrect impression that I claimed Buddhism knew of Evolution. I keep forgetting to turn off my touchpad (Douchpad) which often drags things to where they should not be, as I have clumsy thumbs and they stupidly put douchpads in the middle of the laptop, under these clumsy thumbs. Sorry about the mixup, it is my clumsy fault.You are right, in that Buddhism pre-existed science so it certainly pre-existed Evolution.Though Neuroscience and Buddhism arrived at similar conclusions that the Consciousness, not just our own but other higher mammals, are a composite illusion created by the human brain. Buddhism does not teach of an Eternal Immortal Soul, this concept of the Immortal Soul is purely a fantasy created by The Bible and adopted by Islam, since Islam is also derived from misinterpretations of the Old Testament.The Bible does not teach of any Immortal Soul.The Immortal Soul is actually from Pagan, Babylonian and Egyptian (Phoneacian) Theology.It has nothing to do with the Bible, and did not come from Jesus.http://www.ucg.org...http://www.british-israel.ca... So as you should easily be able to see, the Immortal Soul is actually an Ancient, Pagan Belief.Not a Judaic, nor a Christian doctrine.The Immortal Soul truly is a fanciful notion which is not supported by any obtainable evidence.Firstly I'll address Pro's complete misconceptin of Science and Neurology: "Modern science admits that the brain is made of the very same particles that everything else in the universe is made up of. Things such as rocks, chairs, and entire galaxies. According to modern physicists these particles are not conscious. Since the brain consists totally of non conscious particles the brain itself cannot produce consciousness the same way anything else made up of particles such as a rock cannot produce consciousness."Firstly Pro makes many mistakes in this passage:1: The product Brain and DNA, is greater than the sum of the components: The brain may be made up of elements common to non living objects, but the brain is not a non-living object, it behaves completely different to inannimate matter, it is living, the elements are combined in different formations which give it different properties, just as oxygen and hydrogen are gasses, but in combination they produce water, which is not a gas. When you combine Carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, sulfur, and phosphorous, which are just bunch of solids and gasses in the right proportions and with the correct linkages, we have DNA, which is the basis of all living creatures. We went from star dust to self replicating living matter that combines to produce all humans on the planet. So the blank, naive assumption that rocks and gases don't make decisions or create illusions has been proven wrong, because our brains are continually making decisions and creating illusions from it's rock and gaseous element base. For instance: Pain is an illusion, which is created by several different structures. The signals produced by the pain receptors is not pain, it is mearly a signal giving the brain stem an instance of I've been hit from a pain receptor. This is transferred up throuth the Hypothalamus, which distributes the signal to a few more different structures and to the PreFrontal Cortex, where it can be interpreted as everything from a severe pain of 10 to just a mild tickle. This is proven in patients with damage to their frontal cortex who cannot feel pain, because their brain cannot interpret the signal as such. They can burn their fingers off and not feel it. These people are very prone to killing themselves accidentally because they don't know they are. Pain is only an Illusion developed by evolution to protect our bodies. When we die, those structures that create the illusion of pain die with us and thus have no use to any afterlife if it exists. Thus, if there was such thing as a Hell, we could not feel pain there, because the lumps of matter that create pain no longer exist with us.http://quantumneurology.com...2: Physics is not Biology, The Rules Are Entirely Different in context to Simple Physics Taught At School: The laws of physics are needed to form Molecules, but once they become molecules, the rules change entirely. Molecules combine and disassociate using a mixture of physical laws, but the very basic laws of physics are now in combination and not separate, so behaviour become more Complex. For instance: you cannot predict the activity of a virus or pathogen nor devise a cure using laws of physics taught at secondary schools, because the rules have reached a complexity beyond normal capabilities of Physicists. So it is wrong to let standard higher school physicists make comments about biology. There comments are not considered as relevant. There is still a relevance for Physics in biology, since the law of physics combines elements. But the rules are way too complex for Pro to comprehend and certainly do not support his views.http://physics.aps.org... http://www.princeton.edu...Some people mistakenly link Quantum Physics with Consciousness: Here is an explanation of their Mistake: http://physics.about.com...Though time for a little bit of Neurologist's Humor:So maybe it would be better going to an apolsterer instead of a psychologist.Back To The Debate: Pro Stated: "what is consciousness, it is simply our sense of self awareness, our ability so realize that we are all individual beings. So for the second question do I envision the immortal soul as a form of cosmic consciousness? "Most of our Behaviour and Self Consciousness comes from our Genetics:Here is Robert Sapolsky (my fave lecturer) giving the background for this:Because Consciousness Errors such as Schizophrenia are demonstrated as being connected in families and genetically derived.As Sapolsky explains.The fact that consciousness abilities and errors are genetically related, destroys the notion that these arise from some form of cosmic/shared/eternal consciousness.The Cosmic/Universal consciousness belief has been destroyed by similar scientific studies for almost acentury.Thus Consciousness traits and forms are evidently a product of Evolution/genetics.Human Compassion comes from the functions of the Brain's Limbic system, which evolved in mammals and thus many mammals have empathy and forms of altruistic behavior. Here is a couple of references for how the Limbic System (a bunch of star based atoms formed into a group of brain structures that work together to create our ability to feel Emotions and to have Empathy for others.Though this lecture is extremely interesting, but a little long around 1.5 hours.I've included a text reference for the functions of our Empathy/Limbic System.http://its.sdsu.edu... On Consciousness: Here is a tour of how the Brain creates Human Consciousness by V.S. Ramachandren.Brain diseases and injuries proves that Self Consciousness is Brain Based.Because of diseases where people don't believe their own arm belongs to them, but to somebody else,in other words their self consciousness is false, because of a lesion in their brain.Transexuality is also a brain based error of consciousness, because their Inferior Parietal Lobe (IPL) self imageis not the same sex as their developed body.So for a man with this self-image error, his IPL image is of a woman, so the man does not understand why he has a penis, because it appears foreign to him. Mentally he is a woman, but physically a man.Because there is a faulty image hard wired into the brain.That's enough for now:Thanks Pro.Over to you:PS I've got my touch pad disconnected so hopefully no more confusing drag and drop errors.