Resolved: On Balance, Human Childbirth is Immoral

Thanks Pro.Again, my Round 3 argument is here: https://www.dropbox.com...---Summary---UtilitarianismIn 2CVD I have proven that maximizing potential value is the only valuable thing that we, humans, can act towards, due to our own limited knowledge. I further proved that Utilitarianism best maximizes potential value, and should be preferred in this debate, because living sentient entities maximize the probability of potential value, while dead and nonsentient entities cannot.Accepting this logic is enough to win Con the debate, because it means that we need to keep living sentient entities, such as humans, alive and well, and this requires making babies in order to maximize value. As such, life is NOT, on net, negative.Pro has two main objections to Utilitarianism:(1) Humans already have values, such as the minimization of suffering, which are important. Unfortunately, Pro has provided no reason why this is true. Simply because humans act in certain ways does not mean that the ways that humans act are the correct ways, and is fundamentally an is-ought fallacy.(2) Utilitarianism leads to absurd consequences. As I have pointed out, these consequences are (a) better than the alternative and (b) largely not supported by Utilitarianism.Pro has two main objections to my value-maximizing logic:(1) That it is an argument from ignorance. This is not true; I do not assert that something is true simply because we don't know it to be false, which is what an argument from ignorance is.(2) That it requires value to actually exist. This is not true; all that is required for my logic to be valid is that value can possibly exist and that it can possibly be found, both of which are reasonable assumptions that my opponent has not significantly rebutted. My opponent's closest attempt is that, as products of evolution, it's not required that value actually exist; but because it is not required that value NOT exist, this is irrelevant. Further, if value DOESN'T exist, then nothing is moral or immoral, and so this resolution is negated.As such, Utilitarianism stands. Life has positive value.AntinatalismIn opposition to Utilitarianism, Pro has Antinatalism. Even if Utilitarianism falls, if Antinatalism falls, then the resolution is negated.Pro's argument that life is generally negative relies on the facts (a) that living sentient entities attempt to minimize their own discomfort, (b) that living sentient entities cannot have negative levels of discomfort, and (c) that the average value of living sentient entities is negative.(A) is a flawed is-ought fallacy, because it takes the behavior of living beings and states that that is the correct action.(B) has been disproven through neuroscience, which proves that pleasure is a positive value.(C) has been disproven through Utilitarianism proving positive value and through neuroscience proving that pleasure is positive.Pro offers a new logical proof in Round 4:P1) If discomfort was a positive state, then people would not choose to commit suicide/euthasia if in discomfortP2) People choose to commit suicide/euthanasia when in discomfortC) Discomfort is a negative stateI have never contested that discomfort is not a negative state. Instead, I have contested that (a) pleasure is positive, and (b) the positive value from Utilitarianism outweighs discomfort. These objections stand; the proof falls.Ultimately Pro does not offer philosophical reasons that discomfort, for lack of a better word, matters. Why should we care? Because Pro has not, Antinatalism falls, and so does the resolution.Contention DebateI have proven that Pro has not ethically defended the suffering of animals as important.I have proven that positive value exists, and that positive levels of comfort exist.I have proven that Antinatalism would actually support having human childbirth until humans are capable of killing everything, even potential beings, to minimize suffering, which negates the resolution.Summary SummaryI have proven that human life is positive, under both ethical systems, and thus that childbirth is not immoral.Quotes1: "To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." -- Friedrich Nietzsche 2: "Dad! I'm in space! [low-pitched 'space' voice] I'm proud of you, son. [normal voice] Dad, are you space? [low-pitched 'space' voice] Yes. Now we are a family again." -- Space Core [1], on value that resulted from sufferingReferences[1] http://www.portal2sounds.com...;