GTA San Andreas is a more educational video game than any video game labeled as educational.

"Well, duh, Oregon Trail was made in '71 and GTA: San Andreas was made in like, '07. But that is beside the point. However, the map system in Oregon Trail has suburb representation of settlements and geographical locations in the western United States. The only comparison that GTA has to this is maybe the player will be able to identify human-made landmarks that are in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas. However, the player doesn't learn that these landmarks are actually in San Fran, L. A. , and Las Vegas, instead they learn that these places are in San Fiero, Los Santos, and Las Venturas. This might lead some children to actually believe that those cities exist, and would damage their perception of geography. Would you rather learn about fictional landmarks and cities or real landmarks and cities? " However, while this may "confuse" some children, at a bare minimum, GTA San Andreas will show children how to navigate in an urban environment. No child is ever going to need to know how to navigate in a 19th century Western American settlement. Not yet, at least. "My opponent claims that Oregon Trail teachers that if you don't eat enough you die, which most children already know. Actually, bulimia and anorexia are huge problems amongst the younger generation right now. So, it might be beneficial to actually teach children that not eating enough is harmful. " While I thought it wasn't worth a mention, apparently it is. In GTA, if CJ has zero fat, he will lose health and be mocked by pedestrians. . http://www.gtasanandreas.net... My opponent claims children need not know that running makes them tired. "Children do need to know that dangerous amounts of physical activity in unfavorable conditions can severely harm their health. Don't they? We just can't educate children on one cause of death, there are thousands of ways to die. And exhaustion kills more children than heart disease in America. Children need to be educated about the dangerousness of over-exercise. " Again, I thought it would be irrelevant to bring up, but CJ also can work out too much. CJ's gym coach tells him when he needs to stop to take a breather. And if CJ works out even more after that, he gets kicked out of the gym for twelve hours. And, when doing aerobic exercises such as biking and swimming, CJ will have to take brakes to breath, and will be incapable of motion while taking these breaks. Ergo, my game teaches the same lesson, but more in-depth. . http://gta.wikia.com... . http://gta.wikia.com... "Yay! Children now know that the sun goes up and down! A day-night system does nothing to educate children. And which is more pressing, dieing of hypothermia or losing a mission? The time system in Oregon Trail is adequate for Oregon Trail, day night means nothing when your traveling to Oregon, the temperature and weather might though. " Because children will have to travel to Oregon in a covered wagon by the time they are 21. "However, in my personal experience when playing GTA, it is possible for the player to obtain huge amounts of money by entering cheat codes. In Oregon Trail no such cheat code gives the player money. If you have huge amounts of money, you should have no problem spending it. However, if you have a limited amount of funds and no one to earn more you will have to spend money wisely. Which do children need to know more, learning how to blow huge dollars on stuff they don't need OR how to conserve money in a time of need? " Okay, but players in GTA can earn money by doing jobs that the children might actually grow up and do. Like being a firefighter, nurse, taxi driver, cop, or truck driver. In Oregon trail, money just comes from the sky at the begging of the game. "My opponent believes that the connection between education and violence is irrelevant. However, as a society we measure education in outcome. It doesn't matter how smart you are unless you can use that knowledge to better society. A high school drop out won't be able to better society that much, even if he knows how to play pool and enlist the services of prostitutes. " It's not relevant, it's just not the purpose of the debate. The purpose of the debate is to determine which game is more educational. In conclusion, GTA San Andreas teaches kids how to navigate in an urban environment, say no to drugs and resist peer pressure, how to get a good nights rest, how to exercise, how to have a healthy diet, how to work in various job environments, and basic geometry. Oregon Trail teaches kids about the Oregon Trail, and other pointless and useless life lessons. I had a great debate with you, Con. I look forward to arguing with you in the future.