Sexuality is a choice

I finally found a link providing evidence of what a distant (absent) father does to a child. http://www.fatherhood.org.... In the report, there is proof of a wide spectrum of things that are caused by an absent or distant father, weight problems, poverty, even sexual issues. Among these sexual issues is trouble developing healthy relationships with men. The example given has nothing to do with homosexuality, but says it talks about the study subjects desiring affection and attention from men. I believe the same could be said about a woman desiring attention and affection from women if that is all theyve ever known. I never never said that this was the be all end all. I always said abuse manifests itself in many ways and the reaction to abuse manifests itself in many different ways as well. Revert back to my earlier arguments. At some point, we on this site have to not rely on statistics and resources as much and at least give consideration to common sense as well. Yes, not every male or female who is abused by someone (not just fathers) is going to turn out to be homosexual. And yes, not every male or female is going to turn out even the least bit scared from not having a father figure. My own father is in the airforce and my mother was physically abusive. Due to the absence of my father and the abuse of my mother, I am more withdrawn and have not developed many social skills and have a propensity toward anger. One of my sisters was not abused by my mother but was greatly affected by my father's absence. She seeks out love and affection from men, having go through a different boyfriend every three months. My youngest sister, however, was not affected at all and leads a happy life. The family research center report I provided did a pretty good job of providing sources. Better than I did I have not seen Brokeback Mountain either, so I may be willing to concede her example. However, My understanding of the movie was the cowboys were married with kids BEFORE meeting. I believe that this proves my point. Sexuality (like the title of this debate states) is a choice. This isn't just exclusive to homosexuals. But heterosexuals as well. I may have miss understood your answer to the question regarding God and homosexuality being a choice due to it 1. being against God's character to make people homosexuals willy nilly if he hates homosexuality and 2. there being the temptation factor involved as I was looking for a "yes" or "no" answer. I thought it was a simple question that required that simple of an answer Societal and environmental factors. This means that the people homosexuals surround themselves with and the propaganda these days that attempt to inundate us all with the homosexual lifestyle influence people to come out as homosexual and influence them to claim they were born homosexual. Propaganda has that sort of effect on SOME people. Adolf Hitler knew this all to well http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk.... My opp seems to not understand that there are SEVRERAL groups fighting discrimination. African Americans still today, fight discrimination. It may not be on the same scale as it was 50-60 years ago, but it happens. Having a physical disability, I get discriminated when trying to find a job. It happens to alot of people, no matter who they are I cannot consider the bullying issue moot just yet. They could always change as per the examples I gave before, but why would they want to? In the case of homosexual bullying, yes they can turn away from it. It would be hard, but they can. The reason as to why they would not want to is like I said, societal and environmental reasons. This does not mean that words don't hurt, they do. Take the case of Jamey Rodemeyer http://en.wikipedia.org.... He was open and proud of being gay (according to wiki, bisexual) yet still fell to the horrors of bullying and commited suicide. Finally I wanted to refer back to an argument my opp made that a gay gene may be in mice. This reminds me of a meme I saw a while back. Homosexuality is found in over 1500 species, homophobia is found in one. Which is normal now? First, I have to admit that I never understood how there was a link between mice genes and human genes. We are two different species. Second, I also must admit that homophobia, like xenophobia, is horrible. Like Morgan Freeman said, you are not scared, you are an @$$hole. Sorry I cant use cuss words in debates. Third, these people who honestly hold to this, that homosexuality is normal and inborn, don't realize that some of the same over 1500 species in which homosexuality is normal, eat their own fecal matter. Some of them eat their own young. Would my opp or any other proponent of homosexuality is inborn say that eating one's own young or fecal matter is normal? I would hope not. I'd like to thank my opp for this debate. it was fun