My opponent can neither disprove gravity nor an almighty God.

" First, the universe is an effect." Ipse dixit. "Everything in it is an effect." I assume you're not a Christian then, Christianity asserts free will. And, ipse dixit. "Further, it is an effect, having brought upon by a cause, being the almighty God. " Begging the question. "To say that something isn't an effect is less justified than saying that something is. Saying that rain is not an effect or that a ball falling is not an effect is unjustified." This is because we have observed causes for balls falling and rain falling. And because, unlike universe, a cause for rain is not a contradiction :D. "Just because a cause is not fully understood does not mean that an effect is not an effect." It nevertheless leaves you unjustified in stating that it is an effect, if you have no evidence there was ever a cause. " However, one cannot create something greater than itself. A creater creating such a thing would make himself still greater than what was created. Therefore, there is no contradiction. The creater would still be almighty, and its creation would be lesser than itself." Greater than itself, and not greater than itself. Contradiction. Further, one can create many things greater than oneself. Hitler created paintings. Whatever your opinion of his paintings, you cannot possibly believe them "worse than Hitler" lol. " Almightiness is not self-contradictory." Considering how you JUST DETAILEd another contradiction in it... yes it is. " Gravity and God being similar in not being able to be fully understood links them. By conceding one, my opponent concedes the other." A horse and a unicorn are similar in being hooved animals, therefore if one exists both exists. Non sequitir. "The logic used to disprove one applies to both." Ipse dixet. You have to actually USE similar reasoning to my argument to void gravity before you can assert that. "To say that an almighty God is almighty means that the God has power over the laws of logic." To identify something "over" the laws of logic is a contradiction, logic governs identification. Anything not covered by logic does not have an identity-- does not exist. "Universe-the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated" So God is the creator of all postulations, including false ones? what kind of absurd Almighty being would postulate something without making it? "Since physical existence would be created by an almighty God, that almighty God does not have to physically exist." Physical, broadest definition: # 3. # Of or relating to material things: our physical environment. http://www.answers.com... If God created material , he is relating to them. Physical. It is impossible for something nonphysical to interact with (therefore impossible to create) something physical. :An almighty God would not be physically limited to anything; therefore it can exist. Existence implies limits, the limits of logic, of having an identity. Existence, indeed, is the state of having an identity in reality. Nothing can exist without a limit somewhere. :Both gravity and God exist. Logic proves their existence. Cause and effect poves that they must exist. Again, ipse dixit. Logic disproves their existence, indeed, the requirements of an almighty God are incompatible with logic. And cause and effect prove nothing until you've established that something is an effect. Your attempts to do so so far in regard to the universe are circular.