Abortion should be illegal

This is what scientists use to define is something is living." Maybe, but I would like to add that some scientists have differing definitions and they don't all agree on one specific definition. "To count as living, something must fit every one of these aspects: Movement, Respiration, Sensitivity, Growth, Reproduction, Excretion, Nutrition." Actually, not EVERY living thing meets these requirements. For example, mules can't reproduce. Also, young newborns and old people can't reproduce, but they are still living. Also, what do you mean by nutrition? "Often people say that fetuses can feel pain but there are many studies that disprove this." (You) "Many pro-life doctors maintain that fetuses can feel pain by 8 weeks after fertilization (about the time most surgical abortions take place). Pro-abortion doctors tend to argue that fetuses don't experience pain until the very end of pregnancy. Whose testimony is more reliable, those who have a financial interest in the availability of abortion or those who don't?" (abort73.com) http://abort73.com... "Reproduction: Fetuses CANNOT reproduce." Neither can newborns. Neither can 5 year olds. Neither can 90 year olds. Neither can mules. Neither can sterilized dogs. Are all of those things I listed not living simply because they can't reproduce? "Literally, at conception the 'baby' people speak of is tissue. I don't think that is living, Not by my definition nor by yours." Actually, conception is when I believe life begins. That is one of the main things we are debating. "'If a fetus has a right to itself so does its mother. However, the fetus does not have a right to its mother's womb..." Even after birth the babies need *ahem* stuff from the mother, but that doesn't mean the mother can kill the newborn because the newborn still needs some *cough cough* stuff from her body. Sorry it's probably not the perfect argument, but I don't have much time. "The right to abort is identical to the right to expel someone from your home." I disagree. First off, abortion is much worse than expelling someone from your home because it is murder as I have said many times before. Also, if I remember correctly (sorry, I don't have time to research it), you can't just "expel someone from your home" if they are a minor. You can't just leave a newborn outside and let it starve! "The fetus doesn't die because it was 'murdered.' It dies because it's physiologically too underdeveloped to sustain itself outside of its mother's womb." So you call dismemberment and a baby getting its skull crushed "too underdeveloped to sustain itself outside of its mother's womb." I'm sure that even a full-grown adult couldn't survive being dismembered and getting its skull crushed! Also, (I know this example is absurd; I am just putting it forth to get my point across) if full-grown adults were launched into space without spacesuits and forced out of their ship, you wouldn't just say, "Oh, they are just to physiologically [I do have to say that that is a nice big vocabulary word] underdeveloped, it's okay!" "To hold the mother liable for denying her womb would suggest that she's somehow denied the fetus's alleged right to said womb; therefore, the concept of self-ownership you just put forward would be contradicted." Again, the baby's right to life, supersedes the mother's "right to have an empty womb" (or whatever you would call it). The baby can't live outside the womb and needs it to survive. Also, the woman chose to do something that she should have known would potentially produce a baby. *If my arguments aren't that great this round, I'm sorry; I didn't have much time to make this argument. Also, please remember that when I debate, I'm not trying to make you mad or twist your words or anything; I'm just trying to get my point across. I await your argument for round four.