Pornography should be allowed on DDO

I will try to clarify and argue against his points. 1) I did not say that allowing pornography on DDO would be no different than using Google to search for it. I simply stated that if it is parents and educators that are worried about access of porn Google would pose a higher threat since you can easily search for it, and sometimes accidentally come across it. For instance I wanted to know what an emo German girl looked like so I did a Google search before even putting on images some of the results that came up were about young, attractive, German, females having sexual intercourse involving their anus for a sum of money, and other things along those lines. [1] Even doing an image search for "Young Jewish guy" turns up with one of the first images depicting three young males doing sexual things with each other. Now take for instance a student has a social science class, and one of the topics is to research deviant lifestyles. One of the students may want to do their research on homosexual relationships, what do you think would show up? Such things would not accidentally be seen on DDO, because much like how you get a warning when you do a web search on Google you would get a warning if looking at DDO. I am not advocating allowing pornographic images directly on this website but rather let that filter and warning be there, and maybe even hide such thing from the minors on this website (much like safe-search on Google). The intent does not matter. People post things on the internet with hopes that it will be seen, and Google has accepted to be a part of allowing access to such things, therefore it can be found there. Now about the purpose, Google does have the purpose of searching for websites. Debate. org has the purpose of debating and searching for information. Information and pornography are not mutually exclusive, and neither is debate and pornography. "Based on lovelife's logic one should be able to post links of the same nature, including websites that defame, threaten, or harm other members since one can also find the same material on Google. " No where do I advocate such things. I want the rules to allow pornographic links to be allowed, if I was arguing for any and all links, my opponent might have a case, but I still advocate material that defames, threatens, or harms other members should not be allowed, Google has earned a positive reputation, but Debate. org has not. That might be true but allowing pornographic links on the website would not harm such things. For non-members and extremely new members (most likely anyone that has been here less than a month with a post count below 100, who has been in fewer than 3 debates) they would be treated like minors where pornographic links cannot be seen. Pornographic links that are not marked as such should be dealt with in the same way pornography on this site is currently handled; deleted with a ban for the offender. My opponent says the purpose of this site is debating, and I agree. He then says that allowing pornography would degrade it to 4chan levels. I disagree with that, because of the maturity most of the members have, and how they tend to treat non-mature members, or trolls. He says "for every 945 posts in the forums, you have only been in one debate. It is very likely for this place could degrade to a place that cares mainly about pornography. " Now I will assume he is talking to me on this one. I would like to point out that he is only taking formal debate into consideration. The forums allow for non-voted debates to happen, with as many rounds as needed, etc. For example this thread [2] has potential to grow as a debate (sorry I only read the OP) Along with one I created last night [3] or even the place this debate came from [4] Saying that no debating happens in the forums is very naive indeed. Even unlikely places spawn debates, such as mafia games [5] [6] [7] for example. Allowing mafia games has about the same amount of possible negative results as porn, yet it is allowed. Both can and will spark debate on this website, because of the creative, competitive, argumentative nature expressed here. Again about the post count and number of debates, how many of my posts were in a forum debate? Unless those numbers can be concluded, that point in itself is null. I would bring proof of youtube videos but do not wish to be banned for pornographic content. Now I cannot fathom Ann for instance uploading pornographic content of herself and then Cody finding it and posting it on here. Now if someone is under the legal age of consent and posts sexual pictures of themselves online the pictures should be wiped, and the offender persecuted. If someone over the age of consent but under the legal porn age, then much lighter sentence should be applied, however that is more legal conditions then DDO affairs, and I will avoid getting further into how it ought to be. If you post pictures of yourself then you should live with the consequences, the world cannot baby you forever. The debate topic I had above was only an example, the members on this site are creative, and I am sure they will, together, find something to debate about with it. Right now I would like to add that my opponent has not even touched on the community service effect of allowing pornography on here. Now I will also argue that there is a way to keep some things from showing up on Google, like having the content being hid. Now I disagree that allowing porn would bring stupid and immature people. One could easily argue the same for forum games, yet I do not see them banned. "You're a women and still on this website. " I did say most, not all. "Pornography would only make this attitude worse. Pornography sexual objectifies women. " And men. .. and anything that is the object of pornography. Point is? "Since pornography would be allowed, people could harass other members to take naked pictures of themselves. " I disagree. Members would not be allowed to harass others just because pornography is allowed. My opponent then goes on to say "Many users are called out for making ‘sexual remarks' to women. Cerebral_Narcissist made a remark about InsertNameHere and was labeled a pedophile. Sac8 stated "Ann is all the women I need on this website" and was also ridiculed. " Which is a good point and I would like to thank him for pointing it out for me. Because members were called out for making sexual remarks to other members, which is not against the current ToS, it stands to reason that even if pornographic links were not against the ToS members that try to sexually advance on others would be called out, and ridiculed. I would like to thank my opponent once again, and look forward to another interesting round. [1] . http://google.com... <--search "Emo German Girl" [2] . http://www.debate.org... [3] . http://www.debate.org... [5] . http://www.debate.org... [6] . http://www.debate.org... [7] . http://www.debate.org... [4] . http://www.debate.org...