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What is Undesirable May Very Well Be Appropriate

My thanks to Pro for his argument. It's refreshing to be in a debate where my opponent actually posts arguments (there's been way too much forfeitting in my most recent debates).I wasn't planning on disputing the exempted portion of my opponents definition, as I am a firm believer that accepting a challenge is acceptance of that challenges framework. However, my opponent has, surprisingly, already conceded that it shouldn't be exempted."...the bottom line is that "desirability" NEED NOT conform to BOTH "having pleasing qualities or properties" AND "worth seeking or doing as advantageous, beneficial, or wise"...it need only be one or the other for something to be desirable." As my opponent said in round one, the latter is a quality of prudence. And, as he says here, either the former or latter, not necessarily both, would mean something is desirable. So, if something is prudent, the latter is a quality of it, and so it is also desirable.I don't equate the two... if something has the former but not the latter, it would be desirable, but not prudent. If it has the latter but not the former, it would be both desirable and prudent. So, while desirability does not necessitate prudence, prudence does necessitate desirability.Therefore, to meet his BoP, Pro must show that something can be both undesirable and appropriate for someone while also being imprudent. Working out is prudent, so it does not meet Pro's BoP.To meet my BoP, I need to show that something either needs to be prudent, or needs to pleasing in and of itself, not necessarily both, in order to be considered appropriate.So, the question is, what makes something especially suitable/compatible to, or fitting for a person?The only answer I can think of is that there is a reason for it. Unless that reason is simply that it's enjoyable, then it must be beneficial in some way. Otherwise, it's not really a reason. Perhaps it's to benefit someone else, but since knowing that you've helped someone is pleasing, it's desirable to do things that benefit others.Perhaps my opponent has an alternative answer to what makes something appropriate, but if not, I'd say my BoP is fulfilled.
What is Undesirable May Very Well Be Appropriate

BackgroundNothing specific, this is just something I've been mulling over recently. Many people consider what is undesirable to be wrong or immoral, and this debate aims to demonstrate otherwise. This is a short debate that is impossible to accept in order to screen out people who forfeit or will troll. If you would like to accept this debate, either PM me or leave a comment in the comments section, thank you. Personally, I do not see a CON position being possible, but I do see many, many instances in real life where others do. This debate is meant to challenge people who have notions to that effect. ResolutionWhat is Undesirable May Very Well Be Appropriate. (note, this resolution does not demand that PRO prove that ALL undesirable things are appropriate, only that they MAY VERY WELL BE appropriate. )Definitions By accepting this debate, you accept the below definitions as not debatable:Desirable: having pleasing qualities or properties. http://www.merriam-webster.com...(excluded from the definition: "worth seeking or doing as advantageous, beneficial, or wise" - I would attribute this quality much more to prudency than desirability) Appropriate: especially suitable or compatible : fitting. http://www.merriam-webster.com...RulesAs usual, this is a NO SCORING debate - non-scored RFDs and any form of feedback are most welcome. The only exception is in the matter of conduct, for which along with standard conduct issues (forfeiture, personal attacks, no trolling, etc), breaking the below rules (to include not proffering a case) would merit conduct against the offender.
What is Undesirable May Very Well Be Appropriate

"The artificiality is meant to isolate a specific aspect of desirability while excluding other aspects in order to analyze what is isolated."While this may have been Pros intention, it is not achieved by the framework of this debate. One cannot analyze an aspect of something by pretending it's not an aspect of that thing.I accepted this debate based on the definitions of round one, and (aside from my initial misunderstanding of Pros statements) I have shown how prudence is still an aspect of desirability based on those definitions.If Pro wanted prudence to be excluded as a desirable trait, he should have said so in round one. He excluded part of a definition, because he felt it applied more to prudence. He did not say prudence could not be a reason for desirability.Furthermore, I have addressed Pros argument for working out by showing that it is not undesirable.Ultimately, I'm not really sure what Pro is trying to prove here, because pretending something isn't what it is does not prove anything.
What is Undesirable May Very Well Be Appropriate

Well, I still hold strong to my arguments, as prudence is very much not excluded from this debate, nor was it's exclusion part of the terms. It's just not a part of of the definition of desirable, and I have shown how it still applies using only the remaining definition. If prudence were excluded from this debate, my opponent would not be using prudence to justify his position.Let's look back for a moment at what Pro says near the start of Round 2: "What my opponent will probably aim to do, which I expected, would be to focus on how anything that is prudent is desirable. I fully agree with this, and I don't consider such a statement to be debatable. Furthermore, I may still fully agree with such an assertion, and still prove my position in this debate to be fully sound and valid on a logical basis." The underlined statement is true, but ONLY by showing that something imprudent can be both undesirable and appropriate. If Pro wants prudency excluded from this debate, then he must show why something can be undesirable yet appropriate, excluding any possible prudence. (Using prudence as justification IS NOT excluding prudence)
Racial profiling is not always racist

Racial profiling is not always racist. For instance, it is generally true that ethnic minorities tend to fill the lower end of the socio-economic scale. Poorer individuals are more likely to seek black market opportunities for income, and criminal behavior because of financial pressures in their life. To perceive a muslim traveller from a Muslim country harboring terrorists and to associate his ethnicity with terrorists of the same ethnicity does not imply a prejudice. Rather, it may be entirely necessary to acknowledge that certain societal and cultural factors make one statistically more likely to be associated with such groups. Regardless of the discomfort of perceived injustice felt be the searched individual, this kind of profiling actually ensures that other individuals like them aren't able to go hide in the fabric of their subculture to commit crimes.
Racial profiling is not always racist

"this kind of profiling actually ensures that other individuals LIKE THEM aren't able to go hide in the fabric of their subculture to commit crimes" (emphasis added) The implication of your statement is that criminal individuals who do not fit the profile are able to hide. If a minority is more likely to get hit for the same crime than someone else is, that's the racist part. Also, if that person is searched regarding a crime they did not commit, they are far more likely to be found guilty of something minor, or minor crimes used as a pretext for a search where a white person would never have been bothered. In addition, I would say that racial groups may be correlated with certain crimes statistically, the justice system works on an individual basis. On an individual basis, there may be no correlation. You can't be judged for what you are statistically likely to do.
rap battle

I've been gone awhile, so let me quickly summarize, You look like you've been sodomized by Karma, now you're traumatized You think you'll ever write an autograph? Well you're not authorized. You're fraudulence goes deep: it's really obvious you're not the Christ. You battle with a full body suit for protection I meet you with a sword in the nude: this erection. Hit you in the head with it too: you collapse with a BOOM And my a$s will get sued for harrassment: but listen, I'm still after you, dude. Last round, your pathetic a$s rhymes left me speechless I saw a class clown that I wasn't tryina beef with. Sit your a$s down, I'm the Truth, not a preacher but my flow is so magical, I sound like Jesus. I know that you believe it, but you won't admit reality So we need to revisit your religious mentality See, evil's existence is just another fallacy Divinity is here, if you can see the totality. I'll leave you in the wreckage or with a new perspective How you see your enemies is the only dependent. You'll SEE, and you'll think that you're smoking the best sh!t but stay close to teacher, you won't get arrested. Good battle. Sorry for the forefeit.
rap battle

Im am not impressed, I've shoulda guessed that I wouldn't have to be at my best Just put it to a rest, cuz right now your doing the opposite of success Words and rhymes come to me as fast as a computer but your more like a printing press This is my house and ur an unwelcomed guest, getting put to the test I don't need to fight at all to beat you, it only takes once punch to defeat you Your unsuccesively and unimpressively failing, and your even acting devishliy I though you were Buddhist, so how are you supposed to find serenity You are pathetically desperately trying to find something to use agianst me You'll eventually ruin your integrity as a buddhist, well at least youll quit being a nudist Well its to late its decided, the fire is ignited, Ill beat so bad you'll be blinded Now you'll be reminded, that im done with the kindness and we've officially collided By now your probably lopsided after seeing the raps I provided So hopefully by now your confidence has subsided cuz ill spit so much flames that ill burn off your eyelids
rap battle

The son of God had better call for Daddy to save him Bitch, you've stooped to my level, now you're trapped in the basement. No signal, not a bar, a prayer, a chance of escapin' From a moshpit of sinners, but hey, laughter's contagious So why can't screaming be a replacement? I can take your abuse, no Stockholm Syndrome But your squealing in pain is proof, you got no d!ck homes I'm really insane, but dude, I'm not yo victim, You'd do well to learn SOON to like masochism. Burn though your retinas with my firey gaze I fight harder than the devil does, I rhyme in a rage And I'm not thinkin of lettin up, so try MMA Or just run, because I'm telling ya, you'll die in the cage.
rap battle

So to an amatuer you this is official But hey this lose to you will be beneficIal if you want a autograph at the end of this ill be happy to initial Ill end this as quickly as its started, at the end you look dumb and retarded Ill make look you brainless, and im sorry to say this beating wont be painless I am very dangreous, and you'll be famous because of your lameness At first you'll be hateful, but then you'll be grateful And when its over you'll show appreaction because the desimation and domimation is over So if this instigation gives you the temptaion to quit because of the intimidation.... My recommendation would to leave before my frustration makes me do an assasination And im sorry for the disturbing details but I have small toleration for people who start an altercation And be warned this is just a presentation and I have no hesitation to do discrimination If you want continuation be prepared for a hell of a comfronation
Is Donald Trump's Twitter Posts a Creditable/Legitimate Source

America is the most prominent and important nation in the world, Both economically, Culturally, And militarily. In Japan, If someone is asking about politics, Its a 50% chance they are talking about American politics. Japan in America are both culturally and economically connected by a lot, So that is why it matters to me. When you have a mental and apathetic businessman like Donald Trump as the leader of the USA, It greatly influences every nation. Vote for me as he refused to debate with me D:
Is Donald Trump's Twitter Posts a Creditable/Legitimate Source

Yes, The posts are from Donald Trump, But my debate is (in really simple terms) is Trump a 'trustable' source. Anyone would have understood that. Also, I really hoped I could have a conversation with a Trump supporter as I am from Japan and I have no idea why he is popular. 1. No way Trump is a legitimate source. Go check 'PolitiFact' online and just read it 2. READ TRANSCRIPTS OF HIS SPEECHES! MAKES NO SENSE! -_- 3. Check his approval rating in other countries (google it) and view documentaries
Is Donald Trump's Twitter Posts a Creditable/Legitimate Source

I do See your point on this argument however, No matter the case the statement you have provided for this debate topic was "is Trumps Twitter posts a legitimate source? " Well in order for it to be a legitimate source it has to come from Donald trump and not someone else and it has, Therefore I see no reasoning that it is not a credible source besides your source is less credible than the Twitter post that come from our president
Is Donald Trump's Twitter Posts a Creditable/Legitimate Source

Do you really think he is legit? Just look at his twitter. How to find out who Trump really is in a fun way: Step 1: Go to YouTube Step 2: Search up "Donald Trump John Oliver" Step 3: Watch all the videos made by John Oliver Step 4: Search up "Donald Trump Geography" on YouTube Step 5: Go watch the first one Step 6: Come back and vote for me If you are arguing for pro, Please watch all the videos. They are not a waste of time and are hilarious and informative. (This isn't a tryhard debate :D)
Rematch rap song off

Note: This is only truly impacting if listened from beginning to end in one hearing.http://www.youtube.com...Okay listen... I am not exactly sure that this rap is suitable for all audiences and it literally can give you nightmares if you are sensitive as it is actually a true story...However, this is so emotionally powerful that I really really want to use it so I truly apologize if you are sensitive.Warning: Very, very heart-wrenching story please beware. Feel free to read up the lyrics and skip to end before you listen in the order it's told if you want to reduce the impact.
Rematch rap song off

In this rap, there are essentialy a series of stories involving abuse and neglect from a series of relationships (parent-child, friends and boyfriend-girlfriend).This exlpores murder, pedophilia, pregnancy and running away.My first rap involved raping of a guy's own mother, peer pressure and the wrongs of ghetto culture as a whole.My second rap involved financial neglect of family from a man who also cheated on his wife.My third rap involved unintentional sex with a 14 year old and the regrets of one's entire career as a whole too.Very controversial topics have been explored and a huge variety of emotions have been highlighted.http://www.youtube.com...I believe that I have explored more emotions than my opponent and that my rappers had better speed and flow.My raps are essentialy emotionally engaging stories recalled from both third person and first person they engage the viewer by including them in the feelings of the rapper and the first one actually takes you on a journey to end up truly feeling as crushed as the main character of their story.Unfortunately this debate has glitched and I think round 5 won't exist because if it had my next rap would be about a guy who had made a series of diss raps and is now apologizing for it.
Rematch rap song off

http://www.youtube.com...Same theme as the first rap (guilt) but this is about guilt fomr first person rather than an onlooker on the wrong-doer.The second was more about anger and less about sadness/regret.I just want to say that I think this debate has glitched and round 5 won't exist so next round is likely to be the last round from the looks of it.
Socially, America is a feminist country.

In this debate, I will be using a series of YouTube videos and my own summary and research. For the purpose of this debate, I will set a series of strict rules, which I rarely do. Rules 1. Con assumes full BoP. 2. Americans are preferred, for this debate, however, anyone can accept. 3. Should you choose to accept my debate, PM me before accepting if any rules are to be contended with, I tend to be lenient in this area. 4. No insults or vulgar comments out of context. 5. Select winner voting. 6. Enjoy the debate. Layout- R1- acceptance/ reason for accepting, if desired. R2- Arguments R3- Rebuttals of arguments in round 2. Topics of focus- 1. Domestic abuse 2. Penal system Good Luck.
Socially, America is a feminist country.

Though I was unable to find a legitimate source, Wikipedia is a site used commonly in my debates, so I will use it now. " 1 in 33 men and 1 in 6 women have experienced an attempted or completed rape. .. More than one in three American Indian and Alaska Native women will be raped in their lifetimes. " . https://en.wikipedia.org... Now, on to South Africa. "One in three of the 4,000 women questioned in Johannesburg was raped, according to Community Information, Empowerment and Transparency (CIET) Africa. [4] While women's groups in South Africa estimate that a woman is raped every 26 seconds, the South African police estimates that a woman is raped every 36 seconds. " . https://en.wikipedia.org... So it would seem you are incorrect in that front, but nice try. Also, it would be fitting to point out that my opponent has insulted me in the comments section, violating my rules. "Perversion "Sexual behavior that is abnormal or unacceptable" Homosexuality is unnatural, according to Webster's dictionary it would be perverted, you're a homosexual, hence making you by definition a pervert. " He also called me a "straw man". But I digress. My opponent now can only do one thing- refute only my R2 arguments, as I did with his.
Socially, America is a feminist country.

I am arguing that America is overwhelmingly feminist, in every field except, of course, pay. These sources will all demonstrate that in social situation, women have an advantage. Social Situation- Domestic Violence. To summarize the point of these videos, in domestic violence, men underreport their abuse. This is due to social pressures against hurting a woman. This proves the point that if a man is abused by his wife/girlfriend, he is statistically less likely to report said abuse. Allow me to quote the psychiatrist who made one of these videos. "I want to share my reasons for not breaking up with my wife though she repeatedly physically attacked me throughout our marriage. We had a 5 year old daughter, to whom she was inattentive. I thought I could be the attentive parent. My wife was jealous that our daughter "liked" me better than her. One day, my wife attacked me with a 2x4 while I was sleeping. I left the house so she could cool off, but when I got back, my wife had called the police and accused me of beating her. She even had the bruises to prove it, even though I had only held her back and run away as soon as possible. She filed for divorce and won sole custody of our child. I was a Psychologist, but because of my "violent nature", the court never allowed me to ever see my daughter privately again. She is now 23 and hates and fears me because she believes her mother's story about me. Getting back to my original point, I stayed to protect my daughter's emotional development, and because I knew that if we ever got divorced, I would never be allowed to have a close relationship with my daughter"- Stefan Molyneux, respected psychiatrist. This man was sadly robbed of his daughter because of abuse. Now, on to prison sentences. Women can commit the same crimes as a man, and receive lighter sentences, at least in America. http://www.huffingtonpost.com... http://www.ifeminists.com... https://creativedestruction.wordpress.com... To summarize- One of these is a news article, one a feminist webpage, and one is a social paper. Every single source in this round provides evidence that women have it better than men in America, in every field but money, and even in that respect, they are rapidly approaching beyond equal rights. To summarize all the videos- In America, women receive cheering when they beat up a man. Even when a man acts in self defense, they are still booed, scorned, and humiliated. A woman wrestled him to the ground in one of those videos and nobody cared. However, in both videos,, someone intervened when the roles were reversed. And the articles say that women receive lighter prison sentences, especially if they are rich, and/or a U.S. citizen. In conclusion- In both of the areas we are arguing, I have proven that women have it better than a man.
terrorists right in court

True true. But why should we give someone that possibly could be guilty of an attack a chance to be innocent and walk. Depending on a situation. Say you have the man in your possession that commited a crime why should they be allowed to have a trial in a country that they harmed. They should not have a chance to redeem themself and be able to have parol and all that. They should not have a chance to have a trial since they have caused pain to our country.
Video games make you violent

Hello. I contend that video games have caused a nonzero amount of violence.PROOF 1:The topic is: "Video games make you violent". I am the "you" in this sentence. Video games make me violent. When I am displeased with a game I say foul words like "darn" or "gosh golly". That's verbal violence right there.PROOF 2:Video game rage can be violent. Evidence: I rest my case.
Video games make you violent

Con's final response: violence isn't caused by video games they are not designed for that. Cars aren't designed to kill pedestrians. Design can and does fail. ===My burden of proof (BOP), from Rnd1, was: video games cause a nonzero amount of violence. Con doesn't contest this. Two proofs:1: Video games make me foul. Con has no standing arguments against my testimony.2: Video games make others violent. Con concedes the video proof that video games caused this violence. I've fulfilled my BOP.
Video games make you violent

PROOF 1.Con concedes that video games make me violent: "verbal violence, that is you".Con concedes that "you" in the topic refers to me, Pro.Thus: I have proven that "Video games make [me] violent".PROOF 2. Con disputes how much violence is caused by video games.But Con concedes that my violence examples were caused by video games.Thus: I have proven that video games cause nonzero violence.Don't let Con make new responses to conceded points.Con concedes all critical points.Game over!
Video games make you violent

Every person will react different, if you are displeased and you say "darn" or verbal violence, that is you, not the game, you actually can say the same things without verbal violence. About the videos... 1st The German kid like I said earlier, he is just impatient 2nd A tiny truth joke: "Video games don't make us violent, the lag does" 3rd If you notice, it's not the game at all, it's they losing, impatient people, someone calling the other fat. 4th They don't make you violent for a long term