Negative Debate: Trump v. Clinton

I suggest that brontoraptor forfeit Round 5 (or another round, if more convenient) so that we both can have equal time to argue. I shall begin with rebuttals to brontoraptor's arguments and conclude with my own opening arguments. Con: "The Democratic Party was the party in favor of slaves. Notice that Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president. Think about that. The Democratic politicians are the political children of those that were pro slavery and pro KKK. " This is true--in the 1800s, the Democratic Party was the pro-slavery party. However, this was reversed by the campaigns of conservative politicians Richard Nixon and Barry Goldwater, and the so-called "Southern Strategy. " These campaigns appealed to the racist elements of the Deep South in order to win those states. This brought new voters into the party and allowed Nixon to become president, but the people that the Republican Party was gaining were racists, segregationists, and white supremacists. So although the Democrats were historically the more racist party, that is now not the case. This argument is based on political constructs from over 150 years ago. It must be understood that there has been much change since then. The chairman of the Republican Party himself in 2005 apologized to the NAACP for this strategy. Part of an article from the Washington Post (. http://www.washingtonpost.com...): "'By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out,' Mehlman says in his prepared text. 'Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong. '. .. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean spoke to the NAACP yesterday and said through an aide: 'It's no coincidence that 43 out of 43 members of the Congressional Black Caucus are Democrats. The Democratic Party is the real party of opportunity for African Americans. '" Currently we have a Republican nominee who advocates building walls between other societies rather than bridges and calls Mexican immigrants murderers and rapists, clearly showing that the Republican Party is clearly the more racist party. This is why KKK leaders such as David Duke and other white supremacists are flocking to Trump, who at first hesitated to disavow their support. The Republican Party is now the more racist of the two parties. If you wish to read more about the Southern Strategy, here is an article: . https://en.wikipedia.org... Your "evidence" for plantation politics is just out-of-context snippets of some speech given by a sheriff in Wisconsin. It doesn't mention any liberal policies that are causing racial income inequality, and Hillary Clinton is not mentioned once. This article is therefore wholly irrelevant. This debate is not liberalism versus conservatism, or even the Democratic Party versus the Republican Party. It is Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump. The only policies that you may attack are ones directly proposed by Hillary Clinton or her campaign in a debate, campaign speeches, or on her positions website: . https://www.hillaryclinton.com...First, I'll respond to your point about lying and fabrications. According to the fact-checking intitution Politifact, winner of the Pulitzer Prize, only 4% of all of Donald Trump's statements have been completely true. 56% (a majority) of his statements have been classified as completely false or pants-on-fire (an exceptionally blatant or untrue lie). . http://www.politifact.com... Clinton's statements, on the other hand, have been 23% completely true. Only 12% have been completely false or pants-on-fire (. http://www.politifact.com...). The majority of Trump's statements have been completely false, and the majority of Clinton's statements have been rated "mostly true. " If you look at the graphs on both of these websites, you see how dramatically Trump's bell curve trends towards the "false" end of the spectrum while Hillary's leans towards "true. "You say Hillary wants to bring in migrants only for cheap servants. Again, I need evidence. You can't make these statements without backing them up with relevant evidence. Why does it matter how much Hillary and Bill's foundation is worth? You have failed to link this to the debate in any logical manner and thus it has no bearing on this debate. Next you say that 25% of her campaign has been paid for by Saudi Arabia. First of all, the report that said this was Jordanian, not Saudi, so it could not have been terribly accurate. Secondly, the news agency that published the report, the Middle East Eye, later said that they had been hacked and that untrue quotes from the Saudi prince who allegedly donated money to Hillary had been placed into the report. According to a statement from the Eye, "[Senior global communications specialist Will Bohlen] Bohlen said he could confirm that Saudi Arabia has provided no funding to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. " (. http://www.middleeasteye.net...) Finally, the report said that 20% was paid for, not 25%. Until conclusive evidence has been found on the matter, we cannot take these allegations seriously. The rest of that paragraph is completely unfounded and without any sufficient evidence. Provide evidence and I will respond to it. Just as an aside, the Saudis are not supporters of ISIS. Along with the United States, they have been strong allies in the fight against the Islamic State. The next paragraph is about Obama. I'm not going to address it because the debate is clearly titled "Clinton v. Trump. " Obama has nothing to do with this. The debate is about Hillary Clinton's temperament, personality, and policies, not Obama's. I will point out, however, that one of your points is a blatant lie. Dinesh D'Souza was thrown in jail not because of his movie, but because he broke federal campaign-finance laws--the laws that apply to everybody, not just minor political adversaries of the president. To say that a democratically elected president is hijacking the justice system to get revenge on people who oppose him is absurd. As your evidence that Hillary would ruin the country, you offer a movie trailer. This is not proof. As I said above, you may only use policies that Hillary has personally supported. Not a low-budget movie trailer by a federal criminal. The next actually half-substantive piece of material you have says, "And Hillary plans on continuing Obama's anticolonialist agenda which will sink America. " How do you know this? I'm sorry, "Hillary's America" is not valid evidence. Use actual policies of her that she has directly supported. Show me some of her policies that are anticolonialist in nature. Show me that they will sink America. If you think that America is already sunk, tell me why, and tell me why these policies are directly responsible for the sinking. Since the last few sentences do not pertain to Hillary, I will not respond to them as thoroughly as your other points that are actually relevant. I will, however, point out certain falsehoods. You say that many in the Obama administration are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. Here's a list of Obama's administration members: . http://cabinet-members.insidegov.com... through all of these names, research them carefully, and try to find some that are terrorists. You will not find any. The other falsehood that you are claiming is that Obama is a Muslim. This is an allegation that has been universally recognized as a conspiracy theory. Obama is a practicing Protestant Christian. From Wikipedia:"Obama was baptized into the United Church of Christ (UCC) denomination and formally joined it in 1988. He left the UCC in 2008 because of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Controversy. He now worships with a Southern Baptist pastor at Camp David but has not become a formal member of any church since 2008. " (. https://en.wikipedia.org...)Since I'm running out of characters, I will just make for my argument against Trump a list of things that he has said and done. Donald Trump. .. has called Mexican immigrants "rapists and murderers" said before the 2008 financial crash that he was hoping for a recession simply so he could make some money for himself scammed students with his fraudulent "Trump University" has said that a judge could not do his job well because of his race has congratulated himself publicly in response to the worst mass shooting in American history supports giving more tax breaks to the rich claimed that thousands of Muslims were celebrating on the streets of New York City following 9/11 has said that he would do for America what he did to his business; went bankrupt four times has absolutely no relevant political experience has said that women should be punished for getting an abortion has said that the families of terrorists should be killed (completely undemocratic, unconstitutional, and just downright terrible) initially failed to disavow the support of KKK leader David Duke saying no one should vote for Carly Fiorina (his only female competitor in the Republican Primary) because of how her face looked has said, “I really understand beauty. And I will tell you, she's not—I do own Miss Universe. I do own Miss USA. I mean I own a lot of different things. I do understand beauty, and she's not. " (. http://www.telegraph.co.uk... has called women fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. Will be elaborated upon in later rounds.