The Biblical God exist and is Morally justified!

. (`;') Full Rebuttal: Con suggests that I am putting the full burden of proof on him and I am not doing as such. I would suggest a valid and theoried reason from my opponent why God should not exist in the light of evidence that suggest He does. Evidence can come in many ways and forms. The most typical evidence for God is personnel experience as I have suggested. Though another form is the quanity of the claims and I do not have to display the endless accounts of belief in a God throughout the world. And another would be the physical evidence of nature that there is always someone bigger than you. In nature we see that there is a order called, 'The Food Chain. ' In the food chain one animal eats another and the ranks of order are achieved. It is simply not logical to assume that man does not have a higher order than himself. My opponent wants to appear that he is using rational thinking though I do not think he is here. A rational thinking person weighs all the evidence and claim and comes to well thought hypothesis about history at hand. Someone clinging to science in full can not do this. The reason they can not do this is because truely validating God comes only in one form and that is personnel experience which my opponent can not deny happens. Science in itself must rely on a method to test the theory at hand. Well there is no method but personnel experience. So a rational thinker would say that since science has limits to its ability to discover, that it can never find God. God is beyond the aspects of any scientific method. Scientist and those that rely on scientific dogma know this about God and also know that they can not use science to find Him. So instead they use thier scientific standards that people respect and push dogma that scientific study has elimated God as a possibility. This is simply not so and insults the bulk of people who have these personnel experiences and connect with God. So to talk about personnel experiences and the thoughts of it being some kind of mental illness is absurd. My opponent would be right that most of society have had some kind of trama and in effect to that trama has developed a mental issue. Well wouldn't a issue with thinking that you experience spiritual awareness that is not there be a special case of mental illness? If so then there are too many cases to count and the number grows further with every generation. It is flatout denial of truth and opression of peoples experiences to claim this as such. Contentions: My opponent wants us to believe the universe does not need as cause. I think it is quite funny to claim many to have a illness then say that something came from nothing. Life came from non-life. Thats a bold statement considering no one alive has seen things form from nothing. To suggest this of our universe is also a bold assurtion that defies our physical laws. My opponent is partially right about how there could not be a perfect goodness. I do not think man can have a perfect goodness without God Himself. Though I think there are many examples of perfectness in natural ways. The reason something would be perfect is because it conforms to its nature. It does what it was intended to do. If thier was not a ulimate goodness then what is the reason to strive for moral excellence and common good? Maybe man does not know maximum goodness and can never achieve it but it is for sure out there. We strive to make our lives better, our entire communities better! This does not show a desire for a greater goodness? This greater goodness is eluding most today because of lack of our moral fortitude. My opponent also suggests that order does not need intelligence. I think he is wrong. We have many things in nature that appear to have order to it. Though does it? I would like to know of something that does not have order to it? The reason this order must have intelligence is because of the intelligence we place in our own lives to develop order to it. We are just mimicing the universe and its order. Man puts everything in order in whatever task is ahead to bring about stability for himself. This natural intelligence for order shows a deeper intellgence that designed it that way as we do. The experience of God is the evidence of it! Also combined with countless other experiences. Just because you do not experience them and science shrugs it off, gives you no right to claim dismissial of it. My opponents lastly questions God's morality because children starve, Hell exist, and we are developing better moral today. I do not agree. My opponent like many today in society like to play the blame game. This ia a fallacy as I said before is,'God should help always plea', and this simply is not true. God by just creating us provided any person with all they need. God also gave a moral guideline to live by (agree with the Bible or not), He gave one. What do you expect from God? Does He need to hold your hand walking down the street? My opponent insults God's character and judgement as being immoral. This is just a broader step into my other contentions that deal with decay. We as people in a whole are decaying. Our moral fabric is losing its potency and anyone with a few years of age has seen this suddenly approach. Our society once left thier doors unlocked because people were to be trusted. Today that old tradition has been trampled on without remorse. Our younger society coming up has not developed the moral conduct that will drive us into higher goodness as a people. The reasons they have not developed this is because these moral triats have become less reared. Instead personnal gain and knowledge is admired. Have we really improved as a society into a more improved moral state? Who determines such things? Does ever evolving rights and laws make morality? Does society decide whats right and if so does that make it right? I ask were did we get our basic moral code of conduct? I believe that the criminal element in our lives cannot be dissociated from the moral depravity in the ranks of modern society. The last two decades have seen a terrifying decline in standards among the governing and social bodies. Alcoholism, drug abuse, teen pregnancy, abortion, homosexuality, school violence, child abuse, pornography, rape, robbery and murder pervade our nation. America is drowning in wickedness and immorality. By all measures, this storm threatens to erode the moral and political foundations of America. Yet we celebrate people who live empty lives like this. So in the end man is to blame for people starving not God. Man is to blame for millions being killed not God. And if God(as thiest say He did)gave us Law to obey and we do not. Why wouldn't we deserve His brand of justice? Do we not kill murders? Do we not go to other countries and kill for freedom? I think we all can agree that the bad deserve punishment and what is branded as right to some is not so right to others. We can all day debate what we feel is right and wrong but we are over stepping boundaries to question a God that created you and gave you Law to live by. His motives would not be questionable as He knows best. Thanks to Con for a funn debate and I turn back over to him: