Two parallel lines can intersect.

Ave.Con cites Miles Mathis to argue that non-Euclidean geometry has been abused as a cover for bad mathematics. I'm not sure what the application of non-Euclidean geometry has to do with its actual truth. People like Deepak Chopra abuse quantum mechanics regularly, but this obviously doesn't demonstrate that quantum mechanics is false. It is simply a non-sequitur to suggest that, because an idea has been misapplied and abused, it is therefore not true.I also have to question the validity of citing Miles Mathis. Who is Miles Mathis? I've done extensive research on the name and haven't found anything that shows he's qualified to discuss mathematics.I understand that he's published articles and two books on mathematics, but there is nothing which indicates that his ideas are taken seriously by mathematicians. Personally, I can't take anyone who claims that pi is equal to four as a serious person. Yes, you read that correctly. Miles Mathis actually thinks that pi is equal to four. [1] This guy is the basis of Con's argument?I didn't ask Con to prove that infinity is not a point. I asked Con to show that 'an axiom of the geometries I'm using is that parallel lines intersect at an infinity.' Con misses the point of what I said, so he doesn't actually give a source to prove the earlier claim. Therefore, it's a failed argument.Con then makes three factual claims.1: Euclidean geometry is a mathematical well-known system attributed to the Greek mathematician Euclid of Alexandria. 2: Euclid's text Elements was the first systematic discussion of geometry. 3: It has been one of the most influential books in history, as much for its method as for its mathematical content.4: Although many of Euclid's results had been stated by earlier Greek mathematicians, Euclid was the first to show how these propositions could be fitted together into a comprehensive deductive and logical system.All four of these statements are completely irrelevant to the resolution. We are debating whether two parallel lines can intersect. We are not debating whether Euclid made Euclidean geometry, what the first systematic discussion of geometry was, how influental his work is, or why his work was original. Stating these four facts means nothing.Con makes a fifth factual assertion, which I seperated from the other four because it's actually relevant.Euclidean has been validated and acknowledged by almost all Mathematicians, and is in constant use in the field of Computers. While Non-Euclidean has bee ignored by many great Mathematicians, often hard to prove, and hard to understand.According to Con, this statement can be found by clicking on his second reference. I clicked on his second reference, did some investigating, and the above statement appears nowhere. I copied the text of the statement to see if I could find some results. I didn't get any. I even used control + f just to make sure. The above statement is not in his source, so it has no factual basis. (It's also important to point out that the word 'been' is spelled incorrectly. Supposedly, Con copy and pasted this from his reference, yet they spelled the word been wrong. I would not expect this from a serious website like ScienceDaily. It seems clear to be that this spelling error was due to Con typing the statement himself rather than getting it from his source.)Let's assume it was in his source, however. Maybe I missed something and Con will point it out in the next round. The first thing to realize is that mathematicians like Lobachevsky, Gauss, and Bolyai were involved in creating and developing non-Euclidean geometry. Suggesting that it hasn't been taken seriously by great mathematicians is absurd. The second thing to realize is that 'hard to understand' has nothing to do with truth. Nuclear physics is hard to understand. That doesn't mean it's false.I'm dissapointed to see the massive number of points that Con dropped. I argued that his analogy to you and your friend riding a car was flawed because it dealed with flat surfaces. This was ignored. I argued that projective geometry has parallel lines which intersect. This was ignored. My diagram of two parallel lines diverging? Similarly ignored. Con's entire round was extremely derivative, and he took virtually every single thing he said from his sources, which caused him to drop several points and make many irrelevant assertions.The sheer number of dropped arguments, and the apparent deception applied by Con that I demonstrated above, warrant argument and conduct votes. The preponderance of evidence favors my side. Vote Pro.Vale.References1: http://milesmathis.com...