The C.I.S are the good guys during the events of the Clone Wars. [Star Wars]

"I would like to remind everyone of my earlier argument: the clones were the most humane choice of soldiers for the Republic. " - Con Once again using clones who are trained from birth to fight who by the way don't get an opinion when it comes to politics otherwise they would be killed let alone using a clone army of beings who can feel pain and who are forced to watch their "Brothers Die" is a more humane choice. Like I stated the Clone also had more Orders than just Order 66 like I stated in my argument one of those orders being Order 37 which was far more brutal and evil. "The inhibitor chips in the clones cannot count against the Republic because they were placed by the Jedi master Sifo Dyas, the Republic did not even know about them" - Con Is it not the Republic's duty to check and ensure the Clone Army they are using is indeed legitimate? If the Republic decided to just accept the Clone Army and still not investigate after Episode II to ensure that the Clones they are using are going under fair training and that they have all the information on "their" army? "As a Jedi peacekeeper and Republic agent, Kenobi had a duty to investigate his very reasonable suspicions" He is a peacekeeper yet he still choose to spy on Geonosis which ended up putting his apprentice and a Senator in danger rather than leaving Geonosis and report his suspicions to the Jedi Council who then can take it to the Senate. After all Obi-Wan states to Anakin in Episode III "My allegiance is to the Republic to Democracy!" - Kenobi Yet he did consider this "Democracy" and choose to take matters into his own hands which would end up resulting in the Clone Wars costing millions of lives just because Obi-Wan couldn't do what a Jedi is supposed to do. Keep in mind it is stated the Jedi are not supposed to get involved in politics and all the C.I.S were trying to do was leave Republic Control and go under another form of Government. " I will point out that the sentencing of Kenobi for espionage is 1) unfair because the Geonosians were violating the law and Kenobi had very reasonable suspicion to investigate," - Con The Genosians were breaking laws they didn't even want to follow anymore they wanted to split from the Republic as a result of it's harsh laws, taxes and policies that often favored humans over the "aliens" and as such many people saw this as unfair and unjust and went about trying to oppress these Alien cultures and outer-core systems. "We cannot ask General Kalani what factors went into his calculation and how it was produced. Perhaps he had a bias, perhaps he made a mistake. " - Con General Kalani is agreed on by Rex that he is super intelligent and as I pointed out before Ezra agreed that Kalani had beat them in the test to prove what side was superior and the droids won. As for the B1s and Super Battle Droids I don't see what their intelligence has to do with General Kalani or proving the C.I.S isn't good. "it still calculated a nearly 25% chance that the Republic would win. Those odds really aren't that bad, so my opponents claim that the "Droids simply would have won the war", that the Republic had no chance, is wrong. It's more wrong than saying, "If I roll this 6-sided dice, it will simply not land on 5." I had never stated the Republic would lose I was just stating they had some huge odds stacked against them also it's 23.6% I know you summed it up to 25% to make it simpler but because this is a Super Tactical Droid I'd say his calculations were correct. Kalani is so intelligent he completely prevented the emergency shut down code for all droids under his command believing it was a Republic Trick and to some degree it clearly was. "While the Confederacy of Independent Systems did have a Parliament, I believe it was nothing more than a trick to make the lesser members of the Confederacy believe they were actual members" I understand but if anything this proves how the C.I.S was willing to make peace with the Republic first despite who the C.I.S's leaders are you cannot deny that it was a majority of the C.I.S who willingly agreed that Co-existence before the Republic did and while yes you can claim it's due to Padme the fact remains that it was 1 Republic Senator who talked to another influential Separatist and that it was the C.I.S who considered this first and not the Republic Senate yet. "Let me set one thing straight: the Republic did not "look the other way" from the slave empire of the Hutts. The Hutt Empire was NOT part of the Republic, thus the Republic did not have jurisdiction." - Con Just as Obi-Wan had no jurisdiction to spy on Geonosis when as pointed out earlier in this counter argument he could have reported his suspicions to the "Democracy" he loved so very much. It should also be mentioned that Geonosis was not a Republic System but a System in the Outer-Rim which was less than a Parsec away from Tatooine if you claim they were still breaking Republic law then explain to me why the Republic never acted on the Hutts since it sounds to me like Geonosis was doing nothing wrong and was simply just acting outside of the Republic just like the Hutts and if the Republic respected it's borders once again it's good to see Obi-Wan respecting those borders by spying on the C.I.S Leaders. "Please show me proof that any system legitimately had to turn to slavery to survive economically. And even if they did, then why didn't they stop using slavery once they joined the C.I.S.? If their use of slavery was due to taxation laws under the Republic, and those laws stopped effecting them upon joining the C.I.S.," - Con I don't think you understand Economy it isn't just that easy to recover from heavy taxes especially when being dragged into a war once again look at what happened to Kalee and how it almost never recovered from the Republic's harsh decisions which almost took Kalee the entire Clone Wars just to recover. Most C.I.S Systems weren't just using Slavery to fix their economy they had to keep using it in order to say sustainable while the war was continuing. "But either way, how can people who would turn to the subjugation, oppression, and exploitation of others ever be called the "good guys"?" I'm wondering the same thing since the Republic exploits outer-core systems and oppresses them based on Species and Race which is proof by the Alien hatred under the Empire which is stated that the Racism towards other species had always stood even when the Republic was around. Same with how people can claim using a living army that feels pain, watches their own "family" members die next to them and despite the Republic using a inhumane army it also never even planned to run background checks on the clones to see exactly what was happening with them and check the process in which they grow up in. Sources: Star Wars Rebels http://starwars.wikia.com... http://starwars.wikia.com... http://starwars.wikia.com... http://starwars.wikia.com...