There is no benevolent God.

Apologizes for annoying you, that’s just what I observed when I first joined DDO, now on to the rebuttals. God created the universe. He would know, at the very moment of creation, what we would do. He could even change the outcome by manipulating the starting point. God did create the universe and he did have knowledge of what would happen, but this doesn’t mean we don’t have free will as I’ve addressed before. God has knowledge of what will happen, but he doesn’t interfere, to make sure something happens “smoothly. ” What I have meant by this point is that God doesn’t create us good. He created us with the capacity to be good or evil. He knows what we will choose, but he would much rather have us CHOOSE to be good, and not be created good. I can intervene in a robbery, this doesn’t mean I’m taking away the robber’s free will to try and rob someone. This is completely off the point I’m trying to make. An all powerful, benevolent God has no reason to allow such grotesque acts as murder I have already explained this. God allows these things to happen because IF he was to create us all PERFECTLY MORAL, IF he was to intervene, it would not have the same meaning if we were all to CHOOSE to be perfectly moral. God wishes to benefit us, and he does this through allowing these acts to occur as to allow us to choose to be good or evil. This contention that God would have us fend for ourselves in no way refutes His lack of benevolence. God letting us fend for ourselves IS an act of benevolence as I have shown before. A benevolent God has no reason to have us work on our own, without any guidance from him whatsoever But we have already received guidance from him through the preaching’s of prophets such as Jesus and the Bible. What more guidance do we need? God has given us a little nudge towards the path, we need to find it ourselves, and only then can we be truly happy and morally perfect. You have not explained in any way why an all powerful, benevolent God would leave us to kill each other. I have explained this multiple times. God has no reason to test His creation if He knows what the outcome of the test is from the beginning. This is clearly false; God has tested for the betterment of ourselves, to allow us to grow, to allow us to deal with adversity. Furthermore, clearly God’s test, if it can be so called, is not fair. Some people are born with self-destructive tendencies. Does that mean they can’t handle adversity? What about Stephen Hawkings? Is he not successful even though he is disabled? First of all, I find it amusing that Con thinks that WW2 was in any way a positive thing. I find it amusing that my opponent finds the opposite. Had we not had WW2, would we know about the catastrophes of nuclear weapons? Would we have a ban on nuclear weapons? It is ridiculous to say nothing positive came out of something terrible. Second of all, this is a cop out. Con is simply asserting that God is beyond our understanding and therefore somehow immune to such labels as malevolent or ambivalent So, if a man was about to be hit by a car, and I purposely didn’t push him out of the way because he was going to start WW3 in the future, I am malevolent? My opponent is just side-stepping my point. CONCLUSION I have addressed both natural and moral evil through Platinga’s argument and God’s plan. My opponent hasn’t refuted these arguments and his refutations have been weak. Back to Pro.