The elliot Arguement is the most powerful arguement of all time, it can never be defeated.

The Elliott Argument ...Presupposes that atheists in fact only have two options for the existence of the universe, and that it is logically impossible to present a third option. Both of these supposed options are claimed to be irrational, illogical, and have no evidence. They are presented throughout The Elliott Argument as acronyms. The first one being STE(Space and Time Eternal), and the second being SCPNCEU (Something can come from PURE nothingness and then create entire universe(s)). According to The Elliott Argument,STE is irrational and illogical for a number of reasons. The first based upon the alleged impossibility of an infinite regress of past events. The claim is also made that there is absolutely no evidence that space and time themselves are in fact eternal in the past. The second option, SCPNCEU, is also said to be irrational and illogical by the author for many reasons. The most common defense is that this acronym (SCPNCEU) in fact defies mathematical absolutes, the law of cause and effect, and known philosophical truths. It is also said by the author that there is no known evidence that something in fact can come from 'pure' nothingness and then that something create/or be responsible for creating entire universe(s). The Elliott Argument is a formal argument developed in 2010 by Christian apologist Chad A. Elliott (known as the Atheist Killa or AK ). The claim is that The Elliott Argumentwas founded on human logic, philosophical understanding, research, observation, and current scientific evidence. Thus would not be able to be defeated until new scientific evidence and/or human understanding presents itself. The Elliott Argument has somewhat of an antagonistic conclusion and has been a fiery topic on the atheism vs creationism debating scene. This argument makes no claims about the existence or validity of God, but rather is designed to show that atheism itself is irrational, and illogical, and therefore a flawed position. Mr. Elliott notes William Lane Craig, Alvin Plantinga, Thomas Aquinas, and other promonent Christian apologists as his inspiration for developing this argument. [edit]The basic argument P1 - Both STE and SCPNCEU are irrational, illogical, and have no evidence. P2 - If you deny or disbelieve in an Uncreated Creator option as the cause of the universe, then your only two options are STE and SCPNCEU. P3 - Atheists deny or disbelieve in an Uncreated Creator option as the cause of the universe. T - Atheists are irrational, illogical, and have no evidence. [edit]Content Definitions Eternal - In regards to The Elliott Argument and STE, the word eternal is in reference to past eternity. It makes no claims about the future. Uncreated Creator - A spaceless, timeless, supernatural, immaterial, all powerful, all knowing, personal mind. Time - Time is a dimension in which events can be ordered from the past through the present into the future, and also the measure of durations of events and the intervals between them. Time is essentially a measurement of events. Simply put, if there is no space and no events, then there is no time. However, it is important for one to remember that concious observers need not be present for the concept of time to still be in play. For example if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to witness it does that mean that time stopped? Clearly not. There was a before (tree standing), and an after (tree down) which proves events were occuring and time Pure Nothingness - Literal non-being. No space, time, energy, matter, laws, constants, structure, life, minds, etc. Literal Nothingness. In mathematics this concept can be represented as zero. SCPNCEU - Something can come from PURE nothingness and then create entire universe(s). STE - Space and Time Eternal in the broadest sense. Meaning not just space and time in our universe but other universes/ deminsions as well. [edit]Common Rebuttals and objections Special Pleading Fallacy - The opposition may claim that The Elliott Argument is special pleading for the existence of God. However this rebutal is usually shot down fairly quickly as neither the conclusion nor premises make any outright claims about the existence or validity of God (or a UC option.). The UC option is only presented as an option which atheists deny or disbelieve in. False Dichotomy - The opposition may try to make the claim that there are in fact more options than the two presented in the argument, thus providing evidence of a false dichotomy. However, the author makes the claim that because of the way the two acronyms are defined that"s its logically impossible to ever present a third option for the existence of the universe. Big Bang Theory " Proponents of the Big Bang Theory may claim they are perfectly justified in holding to their position. The author of The Elliott Argument is known to immediately bring up the singularity to prove this is invalid reasoning. The singularity in the Big Bang Model is defined by most physicists as super condensed and extremely hot / volatile pin point of energy. Proponents of this theory will claim that all space and time were products of this singularities expansion, and there in fact was no space or time prior to this event. However, Mr. Elliott asks two fundamental questions which seem to destroy this line of logic. #1.) How can a singularity (super condensed energy) exist without having the potential to exist (space)? #2.) How can energy exist without any events occurring, or in a completely frozen state. I.E. no change in temperature, no increase in potential, no transferring, no movement, etc" The question then becomes, where did this singularity and this space and time come from? Did they come from pure nothingness on their own, or are they eternal in the past? Essentially bringing us back to the claim that atheists in fact only have two options for the existence of the universe. B Theory of time - The Elliott Argument welcomes proponents of both the A-theory of time and B-theory of time. The author makes the claim that the B-theory of time falls underSTE if eternal in the past, and therefore presents no available evidence for such a position. It is also claimed by Mr. Elliott that the B-theory is irrational and illogical because it is self refuting. The following is a summary from Time and Eternity Exploring Gods relationship to Time (pg. 199) by William Lane Craig. "Static Time, or the B-theory of time requires us to believe that our experience of change in the external world as well as within our own minds is wholly illusory. Both tenets are required to be believed if one wishes to hold to static time. However, If our changing experiences are themselves illusions, then we are experiencing a Changing illusion, which is objective and leads to a vicious infinite regress. For example, if that change is an illusion, then something's causing that illusion, and that illusion, and that illusion. Therefore, the static theory of time is self-contradictory." Quantum Vacuum and Virtual Particles " Many people try to make the claim virtual particles may be evidence that something can come from nothingness. The fact here is that virtual particles do not come from pure nothingness, are not known to have the capability to create entire universe(s), and therefore do not provide valid evidence for SCPNCEU. Virtual particles exist in what is known as the Quantum Vacuum, which is a sea of fluctuating energy, endowed with a structure and a rich physical reality that is governed by physical laws. It emphatically NOT pure nothingness says Mr. Elliott