The Existence of God (Christian)

Thank you very much for that response Moss, I look forward to the rest of the debate. Rebuttal: “If you have an inherently bad child (which all are) does that make you at fault?” This is a good argument, but does not hold up upon examination. You attempt to use the human reproduction ideal to compare to a God. Humans don’t have the ability to know what their child would be like, or have the power to make a good child, God does. God is omnipotent, an omniscient. An omnipotent being can do anything, and an omniscient being knows past, present, and future. Since God is omnipotent, he could construct a good child. Even if He did have a bad child, since he is omniscient, he would know he would have a bad child and since he is omnipotent, he could easily change it. So obviously, for God, it is his fault that he had a bad child. “God made us with a choice, follow My ways or don't.” Yet the very idea that God gave us free-will is a fallacy. Since God is omniscient, He knows the future. If he knows the future, the future is already fixed, we have to make a choice. Since the future has to follow this path, we have no other choice, no choice, no free-will. If God is too exist at all, choice/free-will is impossible. “It wasn't His fault that Adam and Eve sinned, it was our poor use of free will, It wasn't His fault.” Yes it was his fault. God knew that Adam and Eve would sin, he had the overwhelming power to make Adam and Eve not sin, yet didn’t. It was his fault that Adam and Eve sinned. “Genesis 1:18 b says that "God saw that it was good" Clearly we were the ones at wrong when we ate the forbidden fruit.” I don’t see how your biblical citation proves that we were the ones at wrong, or why we were the ones at wrong, please explain. You said that the world is supposedly perfect before the universe's creation. “God knows how we feel when we sin without experiencing it (as in any sin you can dream up) without doing it. We've done it plenty of times for Him to observe how we feel in those situations.” This is another fallacy. You cannot know what a feeling is without experiencing it. Just because you’ve seen someone get angry, or someone has told you about it, does not mean you know what it is. If I told you that bungee jumping was scary, and thrilling, I was only describing it. You cannot fully grasp what bungee jumping is until you do it. You cannot know what jealousy is, or sin, fully without experiencing it. Since it is God can never actually know what sinning is like, or jealousy, or envy, without breaking his moral perfection, he cannot do everything. If he cannot do everything, he is not omnipotent, if he isn’t omnipotent, he isn’t a god. “I finally came to the conclusion that you are making assumptions that God is somewhat human-like.” I do believe that God is somewhat human-like, but they are not assumptions, “Then God said, ‘Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us.’ “ Genesis 1:26 I not sure what he means by “us” since there should only be one of him, but that is evidence that God is somewhat human like. “If you know what the future holds, you can decide what you will do later, just like if you are in a fast food line, you can look at the menu before your turn to order is up.” If it was a fast-food line, you would know what you would choose on the menu before you saw the menu. “The planet earth is an extreme anomaly. The latest science clearly states that the chance for a earth like planet is actually negative.” This is completely, completely incorrect. The latest science clearly states that there are 100 billion earth like planets in our GALAXY alone, besides the billions of other planets in the universe. http://www.extremetech.com... http://scienceblogs.com... http://www.forbes.com... http://www.huffingtonpost.com... http://www.space.com... “There goes the multiverse.” I’m not sure if Moss understands what the multiverse is. But I know for sure that saying that earthlike planets are not likely, definitely does not disprove the multiverse. Please read this website if you don’t understand the multiverse please: http://www.space.com... If you actually do understand the multiverse, then please explain how this proves God. Instead of explaining this myself, I will let you see this explained by noted writer, Eric Metaxas. I will not see this website because I am not debating Eric Metaxas, I am debating Moss. Moss then ends their response by claiming that he/she is my mortal enemy. Conclusion: I look forward to the rest of the debate, it seems like an interesting one! I wish my opponent the best of luck and a great day! Best of luck to you, my eternal friend! Holy Bible