Christianity produces a net benefit to society

I've never suggested aptitude in those fields, I'd wonder if you have any acumen in psychology. My only claim is logically & mathematically if we were to quantify positive benefits to large groups of people then beliefs in an infinitely perfect universe valued by 1 point per person per action over the course of infinity is significantly more valuable compared to the idea that there is absolutely nothing after this life. If there is nothing after this life with no accountability for action then i don't have to do a in depth psychoanalysis of an individual person. A group at large will behave based on value. If they do not perceive any benefit then they don't do it. People will sacrifice and go through pain because historically we have figured out doing things we don't like ie. studying for test, it will set off a chain of positive events. The real comparison is values systems in society. Do you know most Christians? I feel like you have a hard time valuing christians. You do realize a significant number of the top 10 highest IQ people in the world believe in Christianity. You act as if all Christians are stupid because they dont believe what you do. You're not playing poker if you take the chips before someone sits down & deal cards. Much like in this debate you are mostly tangent to the argument & in reality you are just here to reinforce your idea of what a Christian is & refuse to maintain focus on a logical progression. My point is I don't have to defend God's existence in this forum because this forum doesn't question the existence in God just the majority of people's actions in society based on their belief in God. In what way can you tie the belief in God to Chaos? Jewish Rabbi's suggest Chaos is a force like gravity that existence and order is a force like gravity that exists not merely consequences of belief. The average Christian especially in the united states fits into 2 major categories you have the church going group that goes to buildings at least 1x per week to pray, listen to someone tell them the right way to live and then they go out and intentionally do nice things for people and try to make a positive difference. the other major category do not go to church but may be 2 or 3x per year around easter they say they are Christians and claim to be good or try to be good specifically because they want to go to heaven & they think they can get there by being good. Both by in large are positive benefits to society. All religions including atheism have radical people that take things way too far and some commit violent acts. You don't kno me at all, how can you say it is blatantly obvious I don't? if anything is blatant this shows the lack of effort you have put into this argument because about 50% of it is just trying to discredit some person you don't know & therefore have no way of knowing. this is a discussion, I don't look at your statements like "you are terrible at psychology" & [therefore I don't have to argue against what you're saying] as an excuse to invalid my argument. I consider the merit & of that statement as others it is merely an attempt to discredit or punch down strawmen. It doesn't have to be literally written to be implied. IF God created man & say this is good then men commits negative actions & God says I am displeased with them because of their behavior that is a perfect example because if they didn't have free will he couldn't be displeased with them. Cain & Able I have already unseated this argument free will can exist simultaneously with foreknowledge Like watching a recorded game of football i know the end result but i can't change what the players choose to do. Again with 10 commandments just shows that you are angry at God for not creating the world according to how you think it should be. Ever hear of Icarus, it's getting a little hot with that ego. you can threaten death without taking free will. & if the definition of life is engaged with God then opposite is death