Resolved: Mario wouldn't win a fight against Sonic the Hedgehog

Thank you as well coday32. This debate has been by far the most fun debate I've participated in. My knowledge of other Mario games is on par with my knowledge of the Paper Mario games, but I feel that Paper Mario is the game that truly allows all of Mario's abilities to shine. I also have no objections to answering the extra points you have offered. Counter Counter Counter Counter Point 1: Agreed. He may not be running away, but if he confronts Mario, he must also confront Mario's abilities, such as the Fire Flower fireball. As I pointed out earlier, hedgehogs ARE in fact highly combustible. XD Counter Counter Counter Counter Point 2: If invincibility must still be used, then I must point out the fact that in the original Paper Mario for Nintendo 64, Bowser steals the Star Rod, making him invincible for however long he chooses. Mario captures the seven Star Spirits, negating the Star Rod's invincibility effect on Bowser. Mario defeats Bowser and obtains the Star Rod. With the seven Star Spirits, Mario can use the Star Rod at will, allowing him to become invincible for however long he chooses. Since my opponent has chosen to leave invincibility in the debate, and Mario possess unlimited invincibility at will, Mario has won the battle. I will, however, continue. Counter Counter Counter Counter Point 3: And therefore, without friends, Sonic the Hedgehog does not have the ability to have his friend, Miles "Tails" Prower, fly him around. Mario's friends in Paper Mario don't really power him up in any way. They only essentially aid Mario in the same way Sonic the Hedgehog's friends aid him. Counter Counter Counter Point 4: By not responding to this argument, my opponent has either forgotten to counter it, or he agrees that Mario could fight Sonic the Hedgehogs enemies just as well as Sonic the Hedgehog. Counter Counter Point 5: My opponent has successfully proved that, though the power-ups I mention CAN slow Sonic the Hedgehog down, they would not be anywhere near effective. Mario has more power-ups though. One such power-up is the Sleepy Sheep, which puts all of his enemies to sleep for an amount of time. Another is the Stop Watch, which paralyzes enemies. Both of these power-ups would leave Sonic the Hedgehog entirely vulnerable, thus allowing Mario to wail away. Counter Count Point 6: Agreed. Counter Point 7: The only point I made that involved "Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door" specifically was the enemies he fought in that game. In the original Paper Mario, as I stated before, Mario defeated Bowser. I know my opponent said that Bowser is just a giant horned turtle, but Mario overcame him WHILE he was invincible. Conclusion: I have proved in my arguments that Mario could, in fact, beat Sonic the Hedgehog in a fight. My opponent claims that Mario is nothing without his power-ups, but power-ups are what the Mario games are about. Taking away Mario's power-ups would be like taking away Sonic the Hedgehogs spin move (which would leave him as nothing more than a talking hedgehog...). It is what they are known for and therefore can't be subtracted from the equation, unless you want a fight between a plumber and a hedgehog, which I would also be willing to debate. XD My opponent's choice to leave invincibility in the debate was a poor one, because it allowed Mario to defeat Sonic the Hedgehog, and I believe the voters will agree. I encourage you all to vote Con. Thank you all, and thank you especially to coday32 for the most fun I've had on this website I believe I've ever had.