The Affordable Care Act should be repealed immediately.

Thank you, Sitara, for a prompt response. I think that our positions aren't actually all that different. I believe that you will actually come to agree that the current law needs to be repealed and replace with something that will actually work, as I have argued... and as you have stated in your post. I will demonstrate below. Rebuttal 2: A) The problems we both agree exist within the current ACA. -The law makes it more difficult for people to get access to health care, as evidenced by higher premiums, longer waits to see a doctor due to an impending doctor shortage, a smaller number of doctors willing to accept insurance, and fewer treatments they are "allowed" to do for you. -The law encourages companies to cut hours and to fire people to avoid the penalties associated with refusing to pay the elevated premiums, thus lowering their wages and making it harder for them to make a living, let alone pay health insurance premiums. -The law is riddled with loopholes, corruption, uneven enforcement, bureaucratic abuses, political favoritism, and other tools that the government can use to impose its will upon the people. -The law over-regulates what treatments people are allowed to receive based on factors that have nothing to do with medicine, and it creates lots of barriers between doctor and patient, damaging the doctor-patient relationship. -The law does nothing to address the real costs of medicine in this country and in fact has cost much more than originally projected. -The law was passed by dubious measures by a Congress whose every move was to exclude dissent and push the bill through at any cost, despite the majority of the country's opposition. Now, 2/3 of the country wants the law repealed, and many of the same Congressional Representatives and Senators would not - or could not, because they were voted out in direct response - vote for the bill again if they had it in front of them. These are all points with which you have agreed are problems with the law. Your position seems to be that there are still good things about the law that can't be accomplished without keeping the law in place. I offer an alternative, and it's one that you mentioned yourself in your most recent rebuttal: B) How repeal is the most reasonable solution to the problems we agree exist in Obamacare: Sitara said: "I agree that there are flaws in the ACA, but the solution is to scrap it, reform it, and put it up for a vote, not to just close your mind to the whole matter." I totally agree. I think we should scrap the law. It was badly written by people who know nothing about health care and whose intention was never to make the health care system work better or be more accessible or affordable. It was written to allow the government to have many, many more levers with which to control the people of this country. I say that there are several excellent alternatives available to solve all of the problems that you have mentioned, and none of them require Obamacare to exist. Let's examine the problems you've mentioned about the health care system, and we'll see if I can't find a better solution than the one Obama pushed through. Sitara said: "Part of the problem is an over taxed economy." I agree. Obamacare raises taxes by $836 billion dollars over the next 7 years to fund itself. Many of these taxes hit businesses and industries the hardest, which has a net effect of slowing the economy down and making it harder for people to prosper. If we repeal Obamacare and replace it with a plan that is revenue-neutral and eliminates the inefficiency of top-down central planning, such as the very successful consumer-driven model that Indiana has in place, we can stop taxing the American people so much, leave them with more money in their pockets, and allow them to make their own decisions about what health care is the right amount for them and their needs. The increase in disposable income would immediately boost the economy from the consumer side of things, and the decrease in the deficit due to an almost 2 trillion dollar decrease would stimulate the economy on a macro-scale. Here's the link for the tax hikes Obamacare is causing. http://blog.heritage.org... Here's a link describing Indiana's healthcare system. http://www.weeklystandard.com... Sitara said: ". I most certainly do not support over regulation no matter who does it," I agree. I believe that the only way to stop the over-regulation is to do away with the entire bill, since the bill is intentionally written in a lengthy, confusing way that makes it difficult to separate one part from another. Wouldn't it be better to present a simple, clean bill that accomplishes the same things you want without all the problems of the Affordable Care Act? Sitara said: "the fact remains that many people cannot afford healthcare due to preexisting conditions and/or financial status. Some people have over 100 dollars worth of medications per month." In a consumer-driven subsidy plan like the one in Indiana, this wouldn't be a problem. The difference is that instead of the government making the decisions about what care you're allowed to have for you, you get to make those decisions by paying for your care out of a Health Savings Account that the State contributes to much as it would have paid the hospitals or doctors or pharmacies directly under Obamacare. Now, you have the power to make decisions about your health instead of letting some bureaucrat do it for you. In light of all of these things, it seems to me that you actually agree with me and think that Obamacare should be repealed.... and replaced with something a) that works better, b) that gets voted in by a fair and open referendum without any tricks, and c) that doesn't leave the door open to governmental corruption. I could be wrong, of course. You keep telling me that repealing the ACA is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. If that's so, then perhaps you could tell me a few of the things that Obamacare does to improve health care that a different plan couldn't do better.