With 30 minutes of preparation, the user known as Kleptin could feasibly vanquish a grizzly bear

======================== NOOB TACTICS | ======================== RE: Yellowstone national park is made up of mostly Lodgepole Pines: My opponent contends that because Yellowstone national park is made up of mostly Lodgepole pines, that he would not be able to pull off the tactics mentioned. His reasoning behind this is that one of his physical condition could not hope to climb the tree because there are no handles or knobs to latch onto, HOWEVER . . . Let us remember the conditions both my opponent and I agreed to: 1) He has the strength to lift 180 pounds. Granted, he has no buff frame (which could possibly used to speak of attributes that don't concern strength . . . which would mean that he received this strength upgrade via "magic", radioactive insect, or latent mutant powers). 2) We both agreed that the Kleptin in this universe possessed a "high quality hunting knife." Granted that the knife is of high quality, Kleptin could use it as leverage he may or may not need (assuming his strength boost isn't enough), when climbing the tree. 3) We have both agreed that this Kleptin is a master of tree climbing. "And since the Lodgepole Pine dominates large expanses of land, and other trees are located far from that location, the time it will take to find such a tree will be much more than 30 minutes." Not necessarily. As indicated by my opponent's 4th condition, the preparation occurs within the fighting area. Simply visiting a lodge house and attaining a park map as well as a park guide would make it a simple process for Kleptin to find any other trees. Nevertheless, this wouldn't be necessary as Kleptin would no doubt be able to climb the trees thanks to the three attribute conditions which I had provided. RE: "And although I can sprint (in this debate) a mile in five minutes, a bear's top speed is 35m/hour" Very true, but this is not something which I contested, thus I ask that the audience dismiss my opponent's bear/human speed comparison. The purpose of the speed condition was to lower the amount of time it would take to travel during the 30 minute's of preparation as well as to give Kleptin enough physical stamina for a possible argument my opponent may provide. =========================================================================== Utilizing biological weaknesses =========================================================================== RE: "My opponent greatly exaggerates my intellectual resources. Though I am well versed in pharmacy, I am unable to recognize herbs and flora for their pharmacological uses. This rules out the use of plant poisons." I'm out of time, thus will possibly save this argument for later. As of now, consider it conceded to. RE: "There are no such poisonous animals that my opponent has stated." My opponent source is most certainly lacking information. Let us refer to the following source:http://www.ultimateyellowstonepark.com... "Park visitors rarely spot rattlesnakes, but the poisonous snake does reside in Yellowstone's northwestern corner near Gardiner, Montana. Reaching up to four feet long with a rattle on their tale, rattlesnakes bear brown skin with dark splotches. Most rattlesnakes will retreat unless threatened, but a bite can be fatal to humans if not treated quickly and properly. Visitors should be especially careful near rocky areas, as snakes frequently sun themselves on rocky ledges. If you hear a rattle, stop and slowly move in the opposite direction of the sound. If you are bitten, immobilize the area, and immediately seek medical attention. All rattlesnake sightings should be reported to the nearest ranger station." Now as indicated above, my opponent is correct in regards to these creatures being rare when taken the entire vass park into consideration, however . . . as shown, they do reside in a precise location, thus this depends on what part of the park Kleptin enters. *sigh* Unfortunately, not something that I took into consideration when creating this debate, thus making this area of the subject murky (I mean really, it just turns into a "Would Kleptin most likely enter in section X of the park of the park or not)". :( All I can say is that if he enters from the Gardiner Montana region, he should feasibly be able to come across the snake and use the snake venom to his advantage. However, now that I think of it, I never installed a time limit to this match. Thus, if Kleptin manages to elude the bear long enough, he could eventually each his destinationof the park on foot (though this would take a great deal of time). Eluding the bear should be relatively simple. After all, Kleptin could simply wait in a lodge house, wait for the bear to get hungry and go get a bite to eat . . . and run off (while making sure that he leaves enough of his scent into to lure the bear into following him, which can be performed via defecation or urination). Come to think of it, this method could also be used in terms of finding a tree which is easier to climb. ;) RE: "As for the targeting of vital spots, I know the locations of vital organs in the human body, but am not aware of their general location in bear anatomy." Even if this isn't the case, Kleptin should still be aware that hitting the bear nearly any place along the neck or piercing the knife through it's brain should be sufficient. RE: "It is a common myth that playing dead will fool a bear. " On the contrary: As my article indicates, Grizzly bears are likely to be fooled by this trick based on their general nature. RE: ". Since it has been stated that this bear specifically wants to kill me (it is not seeking to ensure my death but specifically to kill me) we can then say that playing dead or curling into a ball will do nothing but lead to my demise." We can do no such thing. Although it has been stated that the bear specifically wants to kill Kleptin, if the bear thinks Kleptin is dead, the bear is more likely than not going to do anything further except get back to its own business. Of course, if the bear isn't dumb enough to buy Kleptin falling over as indication of his death, Kleptin could always stage his death in more elaborate way and come up with the plan while heading to the area of the park which includes rattlesnaked (which by the way, even if Kleptin doesn't logically deduce the location, eventually traveling around the park while strategically eluding the bear would be the means of him finding one or more). RE: " As for the creation of a trap, the preparation of such a trap would probably take a substantial amount of time, not do to thinking, but actual construction." Again, something which I do not have the time to respond to (4:00 minute remaining). Gonna have to temporarily concede. RE: "Subduing the bear in the manner my opponent has illustrated is also impossible. First of all, the bear's front limbs and chest are immense bulks of muscle, whereas my spindly little arms will be nothing more than annoying twigs." No time for a precise explanation. However, if you'll look to the youtube video at the right, the proportion between an adult man and a grizzly bear should indicate that my opponent is greatly exaggerating the size of the Bear's bulk. http://www.youtube.com... And that's all the time I have. Will try and respond to the next during the following. However, as long as you (the audience) buy one of my scenarios for victory, it shouldn't be a problem. Later.