Abortion

Thanks for the debate Prez_Siler. Good luck. *******"What about if it is one day after the first trimester? What special thing happens that makes it not alive, between the 90th day and the 91st day? "Again, the completion of the Embryogenesis stage in a pregnancy marks the day when the fetus has developed all vital bodily systems and is considered alive (not human). If this stage ends on the 91st day, then that is when the fetus is alive. Anything before that would not be considered murder and the abortion would be legal. "When is killing the fetus ever justified? .. . "I'll explain more thoroughly. Definition of murder: "the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought" Definition of kill: "cause something living to die. " When you kill something, you do not need justification because you are implying that the victim was killed with reason that wouldn't be considered illegal (based on your definition compared to mine). When you murder something, you imply that the victim was killed unlawfully and especially with malice aforethought (see definition of murder). We both agree on the fact that in order for something to die, it must be alive. However, in any of your arguments, I have not seen one sentence proving that the fetus is alive at all times, yet you continue to state that the fetus would be murdered. Because of this, my argument prevails over yours based on the idea that the fetus is considered alive at the end of the 1st Trimester and beyond. "You also brought up rape, which wasn't part of the original debate,. .. "It plays a vital role in the abortion debate, which is the topic of this debate. "Just because something terrible happens in your life doesn't give you the right to kill your baby. "No it doesn't. However, when something terrible happens in your life such as rape, you have the right to abort your fetus before the deadline. "If a woman has a 3 year old that was caused by rape, does she have the right to kill him or her? "No, that would be considered murder because the 3 year old child is alive. You seem to be misinterpreting the difference between alive and not alive and it's relation to murder. "1% of abortions are from rape or incest. " The source you provided (. http://www.nytimes.com...) says "'The 1 percent number from the 1987 survey is really the best we have on abortions. .. "". You are going by a survey that was taken in 1987, which cannot be valid today considering it took place 24 years ago. Also from your same source: "But the National Right to Life Committee argues that the number could be much higher. .. ". Not only is your source out of date, the percentage provided could very likely be higher. Q: "Should she go through all the necessities of caring for a fetus? A: "Yes. The decision to take care of a child doesn't happen when you realize you are pregnant. "I beg to differ. When a female finds out she is pregnant, if not decided before hand, I assume the first thing that would go through her head is "do I really want to raise this child". You may ask, "why wouldn't she have decided before hand? ". Sexual intercourse can be for the purpose of pleasure, instead of trying to get pregnant. Proper protection should reduce the risk of an unwanted pregnancy. Spur of the moment I suppose. Take a look at this: . http://www.thelizlibrary.org...In the link given you notice an enormous list of health risks caused by a pregnancy. I urge you to scroll more towards the bottom of the list to see the more serious effects. *******Throughout this entire debate Con completely misunderstood the main concepts of my argument.