The Universe Was Created By God

I think this is gonna be a good one. I reject the claim that the universe was created at all, let alone by an agent, including a presumed god. To have something created, brought into existence per this debate, there needs to be stative time and the passage thereof to allow the process of creation to occur. Creation necessarily requires:1. a creator remaining long enough to create2. the action of this creator creating3. the subsequent existence of the created productWithout stative time and the passage thereof, a temporal process like creation, or bringing something into existence, is nonsensical. How could one discern a creator from its created product without the passage of stative time? Creators must precede their creations, and precedence, the fact of occurring earlier in time, requires stative time. I reject this resolution, because stative time's origin and the universe's origin are in fact the same, which negates a temporal process like creation from occurring without the universe. *THE UNIVERSE*All existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos. Our universe has matter and space. Matter distorts space and creates gravity. . http://www.einstein-online.info...The way that particle physicists and cosmologists look at the total universe's energy is by the totality of observable matter (you, me, the planets and stars) and gravity (distortions of space). . https://en.wikipedia.org...Matter, in this energy combination, acts as positive energy (+), because matter is doing the distorting. Gravity, in this energy combination, acts as negative energy (-), because it's a result of the distorting. So, what if we could see how curved space is throughout the entire observable universe given this (+)matter and (-)gravity interplay? Well we can, and we have, using the WMAP, which is an anisotropy probe attached to a space shuttle that measures variations in the otherwise uniform Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) radiation, and gives us a massively accurate picture of the scale, shape, and size of the observable universe. . http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov...We now know that our universe is flat, because the spacial curvature (the total effect of matter on space) of the universe is zero. . http://astrogeo.oxfordjournals.org...Therefore, all of the positive energy (+matter) is exactly being cancelled out by all of the negative energy (-gravity) in our universe, so that the total energy [+matter,-gravity] of the universe is in fact zero. As a set, the universe's matter and gravity would look like [+matter, -gravity] = 0So, we could imagine what the set might look like currently, given our massive universe of +matter and -gravity. .. [+10000000000000,-10000000000000] = 0This shows lots of +matter and lots of -gravity exactly cancelled out. But when there was no universe, matter and gravity were at [+0,-0] = 0At [+0,-0], there is no matter or gravity to speak of and of course the total energy is 0. In this zero energy state, there is/are no radiation/particles/wavelengths/matter/energy/space/time/gravity. .. nothing [+0,-0]= 0. So, for this debate, I will be referring to the otherwise inaccurate phrase, "before the universe," as [+0,-0], when there was no universe. *QUANTUM FLUCTUATIONS (QF)*In our universe of space and matter, when you strip "something" of particles, radiation, and energy, you are left with nothing but empty space; this empty space is full of quantum fluctuations. Quantum fluctuations are sub nuclear particles (not actually full particles, which is why some physicists call them "virtual" particles) existing and being annihilated by antiparticles, and the forces between these sub nuclear particles fluctuate along with this existence and annihilation. I have to make this point perfectly clear. These sub nuclear particles fluctuating in and out of existence are what nothing is, and this is always the case. This is what nothing is. . http://scholarsresearchlibrary.com...The article above refers to quantum fluctuations as vacuum fluctuations because, in our universe of space and matter, we've detected these fluctuations by using a vacuum that strips the basics of something from empty space. But the sub nuclear particles in QF are something, right? Nope. They never statively exist; they exist and don't exist at the same instant, and it is this fluctuation that makes up nothing. There is no "nothing" without these fluctuations, period. What is nothing? It is a state of fluctuating sub nuclear particles and their forces called quantum fluctuations. That video is short and explanatory of QF = nothing. Quantum fluctuations are as real as microorganisms, and we've demonstrated and measured their effect, in current space, in detail. . http://physics.aps.org...However, at [+0,-0], unlike our current universe, there was no space, and instead, like the forces between the sub nuclear particles, space and time fluctuated along with the sub nuclear particles. Space is merely the position of matter or the distance between matter; matter dictates space. At [+0,-0], in a quantum fluctuation, a sub-nuclear particle exists and is simultaneously annihilated by its antiparticle, and this pseudo moment allows for the fluctuated existence/nonexistence of space and time and the forces between the sub-nuclear particles; this was the condition at [+0,-0], which is a constant fluctuation of time/space/matter/energy/gravity thanks to QF. These zero-energy quantum fluctuations, nothing, are such an unstable state that energy is guaranteed to be expressed from them; that expression is called the big bang and is the origin of our universe. From nothing [+0,-0] to something [+1,-1] = The Big Bang. . http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov...*THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE - THE BIG BANG*Pro has already conceded that the Big Bang occurred, but in order to explain why the universe couldn't have been created, by god or otherwise, I must explain our current understanding of the Big Bang model. With the right radio telescope, even you can see that the space between the stars above us isn't just black space, it's filled with microwave radiation. . http://science.nasa.gov...All of this CMB radiation, which is a "black body" as it absorbs all intercepted electromagnetic radiation, is nearly a uniform glow between stars across the universe, and is a proven indicator of an expandable hot dense state such as the Big Bang being the cosmos' origin. . http://www.mpg.de...The small variations in the microwave's uniformity, show a very specific pattern, the same as that expected of a fairly uniformly distributed hot dense state that has expanded to the current size of the universe; this is called inflation. . http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk...Yeah, that link is from Cambridge. .. I know, argument from authority. .. go to page 9 of the PDF which is page 2 of the preface. These small variations have been measured in detail, and match what would be expected if small thermal variations, generated by quantum fluctuations of sub-nuclear particles, had expanded to the size of the observable universe we see today. *THE RESOLUTION IS FALSE*Unfortunately for this resolution, at [+0,-0], in quantum fluctuations, there was no stative time, because there was no stative space. Space and time are part of a continuum, so we call it spacetime. . http://www.einstein-online.info...I reject the claim that the universe has a creator, god, because creation is a temporal process, contingent on stative time, and at [+0,-0] there was no stative time or the passage thereof, because there was no stative space; temporal processes like creation are nonsensical without stative time. Therefore, a creator of the universe cannot be, because there is no creator of a universe that wasn't created.