Jesus Is the Messiah Prophecied in the Old Testament

Micah 5 In response to me saying that Jesus was king of the Jews, Con said,"He was mocked with that title. That does not mean he is king. Furthermore, no-where was he even crowned king!” My opponent fails to see that Jesus isn’t a literal king as is accustomed nowadays. Jesus is the king of all things good. Unfortunately with all of the evil in this world, he wasn’t crowned. Jesus entered into Jerusalem one week before He would be raised from the dead. He was the only king to enter into Jerusalem holding all the dreams and aspirations of the Jewish people, for a Messiah. Zechariah spoke of that day, visualized that day in Zechariah 9:9 “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon a donkey, and upon a colt the foal of a donkey.” “=> There are so many things wrong with this assertion. Hebrews states, "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." Therefore, he cannot go from being G-d, to not being G-d. In addition, Micah re-affirms that G-d is always the same and is unchangeable.” See, what all humans don’t understand is that Jesus is 100% human, and 100% God. It’s God in three forms, the trinity, the Father (God), the son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (our conscience). So His 100% human side gives Him the opportunity to have a God. This is just one of those things that is impossible to understand completely. “=> I do not quite understand.” Well I’m saying that Jesus is a conquering God. He saved the lost from eternal hell (conquered evil), He conquers Satan’s lies, and He conquered our indifference toward Him. It just a different kind off conquering than what you are thinking of. Daniel 9 “=> My opponent drops the fact that it is not a messianic prophecy.” Um….it sure is a Messianic prophecy, what are you talking about? It says that the Messiah will rebuild the streets, and walls, and make them even better than before. He will fulfill this on the second coming. http://en.wikipedia.org... -The Prince is referring to the Messiah. “=> If the NT writers would have used it, it would have been a very strong proof text. Therefore, we can be quite certain that they did not understand it as a Messianic prophecy.” As I said before, they don’t need to use it! There is obviously so much evidence already. => "Seed" ment "Sperm" or "Offspring" (Strong's) Therefore, according to Paul, it seems highly likely that he rejected belief in a virgin birth. Of the seed of David - Of the posterity or lineage of David. He was a descendant of David. David was perhaps the most illustrious of the kings of Israel. The promise to him was that there should not fail a man to sit on this throne; 1 Kings 2:4; 1 Kings 8:25; 1 Kings 9:5; 2 Chronicles 6:16. This ancient promise was understood as referring to the Messiah, and hence, in the New Testament he is called the descendant of David, and so much pains is taken to show that he was of his line; Luke 1:27; Matthew 9:27; Matthew 15:22; Matthew 12:23; Matthew 21:9, Matthew 21:15; Matthew 22:42, Matthew 22:45; John 7:42; 2 Timothy 2:8. As the Jews universally believed that the Messiah would be descended from David John 7:42, it was of great importance for the sacred writers to make it out clearly that Jesus of Nazareth was of that line and family. Hence, it happened, that though our Saviour was humble, and poor, and obscure, yet he had that on which no small part of the world have been accustomed so much to pride themselves, an illustrious ancestry. To a Jew there could be scarcely any honor so high as to be descended from the best of their kings; and it shows how little the Lord Jesus esteemed the honors of this world, that he could always evince his deep humility in circumstances where people are usually proud; and that when he spoke of the honors of this world, and told how little they were worth, he was not denouncing what was not within his reach. -Again, definition of seed is used in a different way. But if you are not lenient on the definition of seed, the reason Paul said born of the seed of David, was because he wasn’t aware of the virgin birth till 30-60 years after he wrote it. Pro’s Arguments Messianic Jew: The Power of Prophecy in the Jewish Scriptures Louis Lapides, a Hebrew scholar and Messianic Jew, is a well-known writer and speaker on Messianic prophecy in the Old Testament. One of the important pieces of evidence that convinced Lapides that Jesus was the long-awaited Messiah of the Jews was the fulfillment of prophecy in the Jewish Scriptures themselves. There are over 300 prophecies concerning the coming Messiah (about 40 of which are very specific), and Jesus fulfilled every one. Some say this is just coincidence. Some say its Christian manipulation after-the-fact. Some say its interpretation out-of-context. However, all of these objections break down under investigation. With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the reliability of the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, we now know with certainty that these Jewish prophecies pre-dated Jesus Christ, and that today's Old Testament translations are nearly identical to the ancient Hebrew texts. Lapides has said, "You know, I go through books that people write to try to tear down what we believe. That's not fun to do, but I spend the time to look at each objection individually and then to research the context and the wording in the original language. And every single time, the prophecies have stood up and shown themselves to be true." http://www.allaboutreligion.org... And a personal experience Messianic Jews have created some wonderful ministries. It seems that some of the most powerful testimonies for Jesus come from Jewish people that discover that their Messiah has already come. Here are a couple of excerpts: "The more I read the Bible and learned about God, the more I wanted to know Him. I began to follow the Old Testament laws so he would be pleased with me: I ate only kosher foods, stopped going to Friday night football games, and tried my best to keep all the commandments I could. As I continued to read the Bible, I came across verses about a promised Messiah. Now I knew a bit about the Messiah already from my Jewish upbringing. When I read about the Messiah in the Hebrew Scriptures, my curiosity was piqued. The picture was sketchy, but it slowly became frightfully clear. This Messiah that I was reading about in my own Jewish Bible sounded like you-know-who! I didn't know much about Jesus, but I did know that I wasn't supposed to believe in Him. I began trying to find other explanations for prophecies like Micah 5:2, which describes an Eternal One who would be born in Bethlehem; or Daniel 9, that pinpoints the time of Messiah's first coming; also Isaiah 53, which spoke of Messiah's life and his sacrifice for sin. As I tried to explain away these and many other prophecies, I found that I could not. I realized that if the Bible was true, then Jesus had to be the Jewish Messiah! I felt guilty simply having these thoughts! What if Jesus wasn't the Messiah? Then I would be committing idolatry! But what if He was? I would be denying God by not believing! I had to be totally sure, so I kept on studying and searching and trying to prove it wasn't so. After two years of struggling, I found myself drawn closer and closer to Jesus" (Zhava Glaser, Chosen People Ministries). Con has not given me any reasonable arguments to back his belief up.