Honest and poor is better than being dishonest and rich

Not over yet.. "Honesty is a really important quality in a person considering now a days everyone lies." - To end this, it is not a contradiction. You said in round 1 that the contradiction was that you can't be honest and lie at the same time when I clearly stated to you that to be honest doesn't mean a person has never lied before and now we are talking about past and present tense. "You cannot be honest, presently, right now, when everybody is lying right now, now a days." The correct usage of honest the way I used it was not in present tense, in fact, I simply stated a fact, "Honesty is a really important quality in a person." Period. Then I stated that, "Now a days everybody lies." Stating yet another fact, that almost every single person in their lives has lied at least once. You also stated, "You can't be honest and lie at the same time," when actually you can be honest and lie at the same time. For example, I can tell you that you make good points and your going to win this debate. First part is honesty, second parts a lie. Secondly, I didn't agree with you that being dishonest brings in more money. You stated in round one that, "It depends on how you spend your money and that if you save your money the money will only come and never go." I simply said, that money does always come and go and that income will come to those who deserve it most. Next, You stated, "If you are caught, by that time you will already have hundreds of millions of dollars in several accounts." This is a false statement because if a person committed a crime, scandal, or robbery the money would have been returned and the companies would have been insured and when they catch the person who has done the crime, the money that has recently been put onto their account regardless of if it was an offshore account would have notified the companies of this act therefore would have no money to get out of jail or bribe officials like you say. Humans may be greedy but they are also very stupid and with this, they cant get out of jail. Next, how could you say someone with a lot of money doesn't need to be trusted with it? Funny you should say "It doesn't matter if no one will trust you with money. You already have tons of that," because if you are not trusted with money, like I said in round 2 it can disappear easily and if you stick to that reasoning above the "tons of money you have" will be gone in no time. Secondly you ask, "When is there a point where money can't bring happiness." That point is when you have all the cars in the world, and the millions of dollars of houses, boats, and whatever else and you bought all your relationships with friends, family, co workers, and yet your still unhappy because even though you have nothing but the money in your life you can't buy happiness. Take a look at this, http://finance.yahoo.com... - "Only 10-12% of our happiness experience comes from money." - "Real happiness comes when you have fulfillment, you have creative expression, you enjoy your work, you're engaged, you make other people happy, you have meaning and purpose in your life." Also, I said, "Although you wouldn't be rewarded for being honest don't you think it would feel much better knowing you didn't have to lie to get somewhere in life," and you asked what I mean by somewhere in life. Clearly, it is somewhere where a person will want to be and somewhere that makes a person happy. You can't say that if a person is, 'honest and poor" then there will be nowhere in life because people who are rich do not live great lives like we assume. You can't say that poor people live in the ghetto either because that's discrimination. Not all poor people live in the ghetto and where exactly is the ghetto? You state, "What would make anyone feel better is living in a nice penthouse suite with hundred of dollar bills in your back pocket, not living in the slums." This is an unrealistic fantasy, and although it looks like people who are rich live great lives I can promise you they are not as happy as it may seem. You say being honest isn't a huge deal when in fact it is a huge deal. You say lying on a resume is not a big deal but a person can lie all they want on their resume, when it comes down to being hired or not and the owner asks the person to live up to the qualities and aspectations on their resume and they are unable to, how embarrassing is that going to be. False advertising is another huge deal that you gladly pointed out. You say it is not a big deal when it is. All the creams, hair products, makeup, weight loss machines and weight loss programs advertised online and on television are all a huge scandal when half of them don't even work and they are being dishonest. Companies like nutrisystem, proactive, and other companies that are honest make much more money than those scandals that are dishonest. Lastly, you say cheating can get you a good life when thats not true and as much as you believe that a person can be a serial killer and still have a family. That so called "family" isn't going to want ANYTHING to do with that kind of a person. Serial killer probably wasn't the right example or correct terminology. Overall, I do not believe you won this debate because a person can't live a life of dishonesty and be rich and still obtain happiness. For one thing money can only make you so happy, you will never be trusted with anything in your life, you will have no true friends, family, co workers, ect and living a life of dishonestly will get you no where in life, rich or poor. As humans you say, "it is only natural for self survival and self betterment," but did you know that as humans it is also only natural for humans to know right from wrong which clearly some humans aren't aware of. You say "It is only natural to take the easier path by being dishonest." It is also natural by taking the easier path and not lying your way through life. Therefore being honest and poor is the correct way and the proper way of living a much better life.