Do we live in the matrix

I still don't think you understand some of those physical phenomena but I'm not here to argue that. Ok, so I presume your argument is going to follow the lines of something like this: http://www.bottomlayer.com... i.e. That all of the problems we face in physics, mostly in quantum mechanics, is because we have a projected image which is the space around us that we observe, and it is computed as we observe. I think it should be noted that our computational power is nowhere near powerful enough to create this model, but that does not mean that some higher order organism with better computational capabilities couldn't. Ok, so to the argument of whether or not that means that we are in a designed matrix by some higher order organism that is using us as little lab rats or something. The short answer would be to so say that no, there is no proof, and it can't be proven definitively, as I will explain. However, there are philosophical arguments against it. My greatest argument against this would be to say that there is nothing to prove that the code cannot exist on its own – that it had to have been designed. Say, for example, that our entire universe is a stream of single point information – for arguments sake, say a binary system like in programming. That could account for everything in the universe that seems coded without the need for a 'creator' as the information would have no end and no beginning. That code could easily rearrange itself in such a way, perhaps from emergent-type phenomena, as to create a 'universe' which follows our laws, in a portion of its code. This doesn't prove that the matrix doesn't exist however, it just proves that there is an alternative. So what if there is a 'creator' and that outside world somehow follows laws that do not follow our laws. We wouldn't know, true, because how can we prove that there is a system which follows different laws to us if we can't observe it. But also, in this case, why would this higher order organism create a world that doesn't follow their own physical laws? Would it even be possible for another organism to create a world that runs on a different base of laws? I am not going to argue using the 'Why?' argument, because as humans, we couldn't possibly rationalise the why behind this. We couldn't even know if there is such a thing as why in this creators world. To illustrate, humans have code, and we could theoretically produce a simulated world. So if we are created from code that someone designed, there is nothing to say that our creators weren't created from code. And so on and so forth, in which case, it is still the case that the entire universe is one stream of code with codes written into the code. Even then, above all of these creators, is it possible that there is an overarching outside world that was the initiator. The main question again, is, is it possible that they could have created this system if they worked on a system different to ours. At the very least, humans are probably incapable of this; our virtual realities are still mimics of our own world, and it is likely that our simulated worlds would be too. If it is the case as a general rule, then there can be no initial creator, and though we may be living in a code inside a code, the universe would still be one long code, and therefore, we are just living in a binary system universe, not in a designed matrix. So is it philosophically possible for a being capable of design, to design a system which works on rules different to their own. In a simple sense, for this argument, do you have to have a computational-type mind to create computational data. I postulate that you do. I further postulate that a computational mind can only arise in a computational environment. And, therefore, if your environment is computational, then aren't you just another sub-creator in a long line of infinite code with no initiator. Therefore, according to my reasoning, which can't be proven, just as the existence of the matrix can't be proven, the matrix does not exist.