God Is Subject To The Law Of Noncontradiction

I will present 6 points as to why I think God is not subject to the law of non contradiction, which I have sumemd up in the conclusion. First, I want to establish definition. God has not been defined for this debate. I will go by Merriam-Webster’s definition [1]. Definition of GOD Merriam Webster stated that God is; 1 Capitalized: the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind The Christian GodLets take the very first definition provided by M-W. It states a “the being perfect in power, wisdom”. To show these traits beyond a simply dictionary definition and create a bit of cohesion between definition and God idea’s currently worshipped, I will show that in Christianity these traits are backed up in the bible; All knowing: Job 37:16 – “Do you know the balancing of the clouds, the wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge. ”, “Psalm 147:5 - Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit. ” All powerful: “Matthew 19:26 - But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. ” So from the Bible, we can establish that at the very least, the Christian God is all knowing, and all powerful. This gives light to what is known as the problem of evil, along other contradictions which we should look into for the purpose of this argument. Omnipotent / Omnipresent If God is omnipotent / all powerful, he must be able to create a rock that he cannot lift. If he cannot create the rock, he is not all powerful, but if he creates it, he cannot lift it, so he is not all powerful. The very notion of all powerful is logically contradictory as shown above, but it is one of the fundamental characteristics of God. If he is not all powerful, his power has limits, and thus gives the chance that a more powerful being could exist, making the being in question not a God. From this we can determine that a God, by definition is logically contradictory. God as a Character, Idea and Definition People could argue that anything that manifests physically is subject to the laws of logic, but until a God manifests physically and we have the ability to scientifically measure God and compare him to the laws of nature, all we have to go on is what we define as a God. As a definition, character or idea, God is not subjected to this law. So I bring it to Pro that if he wishes to prove that God is subjected to this law on non-contradiction he would have to prove an unimaginable feat, that is, to prove Gods existence. Otherwise it is merely “IF God exists AND manifests within our physical reality he MIGHT be subjected to the law of non-contradiction. ” God / Nature As an extension to the above argument, let’s say we DID find God. Let us even go as far to say that we could scientifically measure God with the same accuracy as we have the rest of our known world. If God did not break the law of contradiction, then surely by definition we would not have found God, just a powerful entity beyond our current knowledge. God by his own traits should not meet the restrictions placed on the natural world, he should go beyond them. Any entity that we find that is constrained by these traits would surely show that by this fact alone, they are not a God. The only true test for God we would have is if the being could break the natural laws of our universe. Otherwise anything God does is explainable within the laws of logic and science. Breaking the Rules Of Logic I put it to Pro that his initial question is a logical fallacy. It is within the same rules of Logic that something “is what it is”. If we follow that rule then God is a God. That is. .. God is all powerful, and by extension, as shown in the “omnipotent” paragraph, is logically contradictory. If we follow the rule of non-contradiction, then God isn’t omnipotent, and therefore isn’t what he is. Either way, one of these 2 rules of logic are broken. If one must be broken, God is not bound by the rules of logic. If God is not bound by the rules of logic, he is not bound by the law of non contradiction. An untruth Let us look at one specific religion for a moment since the rest of my argument is strongly based on definition. Since I have mentioned the Christian God before, I’ll stick with the same one here. If God exists, what is to say that the laws of the universe are an illusion, created to keep us within confinements, maybe for our own safety, who knows. This begs a big question, that God may have deceived or lied to us, but is that such a big question? Let us see if the bible would back this up. .. 1 Kings 22:23 - Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. Jeremiah 4:10 - Ah, Lord GOD! Surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. Jeremiah 20:7 - O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Ezekeil 14:9 - And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 - For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. So we can firmly establish, at least within Christianity, that there is reason to believe this particular God might lie or deceive. I should note, that this alone breaks the laws of non contradiction since God is said to be truthful and cannot lie. However this would all be explained if the laws of nature were a God created illusion meant only to serve as restrictions to keep us safe. If this is the case, God is not bound by such illusions. Is there any other way to explain how an existing God could be so contradictory? Burden Of Proof Pro has stated "God Is Subject To The Law Of Non contradiction" and therefore has the burdon of proof to this claim. I however find it unimaginable for him to meet this burden of proof however, since how would we actually show that God is in FACT, subect to this law. We could put forward possibilities, but as shown from my arguement there is plenty reason for doubt in pro's claim. Without access directly to God, how can Pro PROVE that God actually is subject to the Law of Non Contradiction. Conclusion1. God is defined as all powerful and all knowing. Being all powerful breaks the law of non-contradiction. therefore God breaks the law of non-contradiction.2. Characters, Ideas and definitions can be logically contradictory. God has not been proven to be anything more than a character, idea or definition. Therefore God is not bound by the law of non-contradiction.3. The only way to test if a physically existing God was in fact a God, is if the God broke the rules of science and logic. Otherwise he has no more proof to his claim than anything else in nature.4. God can either adhere to "he is what he is". or "the law of non-contradiction". By the definition of God, if he meets one rule of logic, he cannot meet the other. If he can break rules of logic, he is not bound by them.5. God has been shown to lie and decieve before. The laws of logic could be an illusion by God. If they are an illusion, God is not bound by them6. God is god. He is more powerful than anything. By extention he is more powerful than the laws of the universe. He cannot be bound by something less powerful than him. Sources [1] . http://www.merriam-webster.com...