Resolved: in a democratic society felons ought to retain the right to vote

Ok kiddies its 10:45 at night i gotta be at school at 5:00 in the morn to be at the bus and i still havent written my neg,(out drinkin) so im ganna make this snippy My opponent seems to have picked up this thing were he refutes the points of mine he can, and leaves the rest in the trash however i wont allow him to do so alrighty all attak him and solidify his own and then congradulate him,(cause in my 3 years of debating i have never had someone come this close to beating me or even giving me a run for my money so kudos to that) lets begin Contention 1 Violation of Contract Now my opponent has been saying according to John Locke this and according to John Locke that well i say who cares what John Locke says John lock lived in the 1600's and simply because an old man writes a book saying how democracy should be, and saying how governments should function doesnt mean everyone has to fallow his rules. In the scope of equality John Locke is no better than me or you, or the felons. So because John Locke thinks they broke a social contract doesnt mean the people of the nation necesarily think so. and it doesnt mean the felons think so. YOU CAN'T PUNISH PEOPLE BECAUSE OF YOU PERSONAL BELIEFS. If that were true i would grab my shackles and make you my slave because by arguing with me your breaking the social contract that we has our own community share (according to me of course) So i (according to you and John Locke) can march on over to your house and throw you in shackles and reinstitute American Slavery because you broke the contract that i have with you. Of coursew (thank god) this kind of nonsense isn't common beleif. Also by ensinuating that you can take away somones GOD given right you must think that you are of equal or higher authority than thebig man himself. People who are readin this picture everyone in you freshman class i dont care who or how many people just make a picture. Now ask yourself who deserves the most amount of rights. Just from the picture of them, and the qualities they posses tell me or yourself what they are worthy of in life. Wait! they just might all be equal as people. And you just might not have the authority to strip these people of thier rights because you say so. As my opponent implies if majority ruled all anyone has to do is get a partner an tell thier worst enemy to kill themselves because 2 people want them dead and as only one person themselves wants them alive they need to die as of immediatly. The fabric of society would fall apart if this was practiced. Second contention Double standard. OK my opponenet seems to beleive that law breakers can't be law makers because (once again) of who they are. Whye do i say this? Since my opponent doesnt want felons to vote and the only thing he knows about people is that they are felons he obviously doesnt want people to vote because of thier attributes. Fortunantly as exclaimed so many times earlier you cannot strip people of a god given right no matter who you are unless your god (and trust me if you unsure, or even if your sure. YOUR NOT GOD) These citizens who pay taxes and are members of this society deserve to have a say in thier government just like you and me. And if you don't like it then a Democracy is not the type of gvernment for you. now to solidify my own aguments Contention 1. False assumption My opponent still argues a republic is a democratic society, and it is. However a democratic society is not a republic. Please do not allow the folly of Man breach the integrity of this debate. the Resolution says Democratic societies, thus meaning societes whose government or community or whatever the heck you want to call it, allows everyone to vote. Also as the Affirmitive i set the perameters and definitions for the debate in my oppening. Simply because the definition doesnt agree with you resolution doesnt mean you can go out and releive of my affirmational responsibility. Thus we will keep my definitions of the words So my contention still hold true. Contention 2 Ill keep this one short my opponent says being a felony is a choice, so it is not an quality well i have this to say. Is bieng gay a choice? Yes are gay people not referred to as gay people? They are Is bieng a felon a choice? Yes, Are felons not Felons? Yes, Felons are felons. Is the word felon an adjective describing a person? Yes is black an adjective describing a person? Yes So is bieng gay or black an attribute? yes is being a felon an attribute? Yes is not allowing someone to vote because they are black oppressionistic against black people, thus punishing because of who they are? Yes Is not allowing a felon to vote because they are a felon oppresionistic, thus punishing them because of who they are? Yes. Ask yourselves these questions after you do that read my opponents argument and see if it makes sense hopefully you will use logic and see that it does not. Third Contention: If a democratic society doesn't allow anyone within it's ranks to vote then it is no longer a democratic society (Now this is the grand poobah liek the president of rebuttals r u ready good im excited SHAAAAAZAMMMMMM) For example you want pizza 10 say yes 2 say no. O well 9 of the ten of you who want pizza dont count because u all went to jail once making you felons and felons don't vote I guess we don't get pizza then huh see discriminating against people in the society allows the minority to rule the majority So you dont have a democracy any more buddy you have an Oligarchy That is all i have to say an Oligarchy is a government ruled by a minority or a powerful few. While you may say well who says that felons are the majority of the society, well i say who says they aren't Since the resolution doesnt specify the Attributes of this Society it is safe to assume one way or the other, and in this case we will assume that they are a majority of felons. Value and contentions now im grouping you criterean in with your first contention as i have been the whole time so i dint drop you criterean sorry i i forgot to mention, and your value of Justice supposrts my resolution more that yours. Were as you support Justice for only some i Support Justice for all so whether you wanna use your value or my value my resolution is still on top. well thatraps it up congrats to my opponent you did a hella good job, and im kind nervous u might beat me and when i say you did hella good i mean u did hella good i wanna talk debate with you someday in the near future tomm night maybe on aim if u want im ugotzserved88 Thanks to the people for reading this whole thing i no how tedious it is i myself hate doin it. to anyone debating out and abraod please don't take my ideas, (well i guess you can but dont go against me with em hows that sound for fair eh lol) lastly Ok people hugs and kisses LD out P.S dont hodl the grammer against me pleases its late and i gotta get some sleeps no time to checks thnx