A creator/creators probably exists

Thank you Con for summarizing my conclusions. You are correct in all except the last. C: Life was more probably created on purpose and therefore our best guess is that a Creator exists. I must apologize for the many mistakes. i am using a phone to type and my fingers struggle to keep up with my train of thought plus these buttons are obviously made for people with much smaller fingers than my own. I also often assume whats logical to me is logical to everyone so i don't explain everything in detail. I will try to refrain from doing so in future. God or Creator: A being that exists and created the universe for a purpose. I believe that such a beings existence can neither be proven nor disproved if we include the being in our equations. To prove x we cant use x in the equation if x is a variable and we also can't prove x if we give attributes to x which make x impossible. What that boils down to is I can't prove a creator exists if you believe its impossible for a creator to exist. There are 3 types of believers in the world. Atheists who believe its impossible for a creator to exist. Agnostics/atheists who believe its possible a creator exists but its unlikely Agnostic/believers who believe its possible a creator exists and its probably true. Both Atheists and Agnostic/believers are closed minded. Their beliefs are moulded by logic which is determined by past experience. Nothing can alter a closed mind but absolute proof and in the case of a creator that is impossible. A creator is a concept with no physical characteristics except those we give to it. In my opinion it is because of a sense all humans have to a certain degree. Like gravity. Gravity can,t be seen, heard, smelled or tasted. We can see its effect on objects and thereby conclude it exists. To a certain extent we can feel gravity as a sense of weight. If we could feel a creator it might for instance feel like a sense of belonging or purpose. maybe even a sense of being loved. Perhaps we perceive what we feel in different ways or latch onto a idea that feels right and that's how religion spreads. Nobody can say for certain. The fact is there is no physical proof for or against a creators existence and therefore the odds are 50/50. Any argument to the contrary requires imagined proof and is therefore invalid. If Con has actual proof that a creator doesn't exist which does not involve disproving a man given quality of that creator I will be happy to change those odds. purposed/random events A random event is a event which occurs naturally. Suns are formed naturally. Planets. Moons. Mountains, oceans, rivers. Wind, clouds. These are all natural phenomina and their existance easily explained. But a purposed event is something that is unlikely to have been created by natural causes. If you walk into a cave and find a ring of stones with ash in it what do you assume? That lightning struck a tree and a burning branch got blown into the cave, landing in a circle of rocks that were deposited there by water? Its possible. But its more probable that someone made a fire. Probability can in this way be used to decide the most logical option. Now life is a funny thing. It requires a very specific set of circumstances to exist. If one of these factors is missing then life would be impossible. Now i'm not talking about humans exclusively but all life. From animals and plants to the smallest possible living thing. The more factors needed the lower the odds of their probability. Now many people struggle to understand probability especially when it comes to big numbers so i will try to explain it in simple terms. If you toss a coin in the air it has a 50% probability of landing on heads. If we toss it again we also have a 50% probability of it landing on heads. but if we need both tosses to be heads then we only have a 25% chance. and if we have to toss the coin 3 times and need heads again we halve 25% to hive us 12.5%. So the odds of getting 3 heads are 12.5%. So what are the odds of tossing a coin 50 times and getting heads every time? I have no clue. I got to 41 and my calculator gave up. it was at 0.00000000004% probability. Well the odds of life existing are 1 in 10^238. That means having the right type of sun, toss a coin for heads. The right type of planet, toss a coin for heads. The right distance from the sun, toss a coin for heads. Rotating at the right angle, toss a coin for heads. I'm not going through the whole list but you welcome to view it at http://evolutionfaq.com... http://www.reasons.org... Basically you have to toss that coin a couple of thousand times and always land on heads. Taking into account how big the universe is its not impossible that all these factors occured by chance but if i toss a coin ten times and it lands on heads i call it a miracle. a thousand times? That is not luck. That is obviously by design. Well you may ask what is the point of the rest of the universe? To get from point A to point B we need a few things. Firstly we need time. If time stands still we would never move from point A. We need a path, legs, a compass so we don't get lost. Likewise to get from the big bang to us, we need a few things. Suns, planets, moons, water, evolution. The universe is here because it needs to be here for us to be here. I believe i have shown that the chances of us being here are small compared to the chance of us being here by design. And design is impossible without a designer. So if you believe its possible a creator to exist then this should confirm it. If you believe its impossible for a creator to exist then you believe in miracles.