RESOLVED: In a fight to the death, Darth Vader would defeat Darth Revan

Again I will start with the Con and move to Pro. He claims that I avoided the point of his first contention. This could not be further from the truth. It was just addressed later. However for the convenience of everyone I'll clarify those points here. Yes, lots of knowledge was lost over 4000 years. However that isn't necessarily a bad thing. For example, how many people still know how to use a bow and arrow? Not many, right? Now how about a gun? Point being that the knowledge was lost because it became irrelevant. My opponent seems to think that the Jedi knew nothing about the past. However they had a very extensive archive with thousands of years of knowledge, this source of knowledge wasn't destroyed until after Anakin became Vader, thus he would have known anything about the past that was worth knowing. My opponent's second point really holds very little weight. He'd like you to think that just because a civilian outranked him meant that he had no influence. Again, just look at the U.S. Military. Each branch of the military has three civilians ahead of the highest ranking officers. Does that mean that the Chief of Staffs have no influence. Of course not. In fact, Vader had more influence than any U.S. military leader. No U.S. leader has killed an Admiral and a Captain without having any repercussions. Remember, Malak, who beat Revan before this point, didn't kill Admiral Saul. Why? Because he needed him, for if no other reason, to keep all of his troops. Furthermore, despite the fact that Vader did command armies, he still managed to accomplish more on his own than Revan ever did. However most importantly my opponent's point is completely irrelevant. One's political standing does not have any impact on a fight to the death. Next my opponent would like you to believe that Vader couldn't overthrow the Emperor. However this is not from the lack of effort. Even after all of this effort the Emperor eventually stopped trying to kill Vader. Furthermore he never directly confronted Vader. Thus one can conclude that the Emperor was scared of fighting Vader one on one. My opponent tries to use a quote from Krea (who is arguably insane) to disprove that Revan didn't turn the Jedi. However it really proves nothing. It never makes a direct reference to Revan. Why? Because again it was Revan's minions doing this. My opponent seems to have missed my argument about his fourth contention. I was saying that Revan and Vader would have the same knowledge from both side of the force. In fact, Vader would have more since he'd have more access to more information. My opponent says I need to prove that Revan lost his powers. I don't know how else to put it other than how I already have. Revan's strengths and weakness, and his powers, vary with how you play the game. Speaking of evidence, my opponent spent 3 rounds saying that knowledge was lost without ever citing evidence about that. I'm not sure how my opponent thinks he won hid fifth point when I refuted it last round. Now to defend my case. Vader's time was hardly full of pathetic force wielders. There were many great names in that time, Mace Windu, Yoda and Obi-Wann, just to name a few. Furthermore, Vader killed many more, great Jedi in the temple. And I'm sorry to bring this up in this round but since my opponent doesn't seem to remember the cut scene very well I'm providing a link that shows Revan retreating and on the defensive. http://www.youtube.com... . Again, who ever said that Obi-Wann was far weaker than Vader? Obi-Wann was on the Jedi council. How can anyone consider a council member weak? As for my second point, prepared people have lost battles all the time. The confederates were prepared for Gettysburg but they still lost. As for Han, anyone who watches or reads Star Wars knows that strong willed people can hide their presences in the force. Han is pretty much the definition of strong willed. Anakin took on legions of enemies in almost every episode, as well as every book he was in. Episode 1, he destroyed a battle station on his own. In Episode 2, it was the Sand People, the landing on Genosis, and the fight that happened after their "rescue." Episode 3, he flew his way to General Grievous' ship only to fight more troops once he boarded, and latter he killed Count Dooku there. He later fought his way through every Jedi at the Jedi Temple and then all of the Separatists. I think I've made my point. All I have to say about the video is the tin the end; it is Vader who is still the Emperor's right hand. Why should my third contention be dropped? My opponent has provided no actual proof that any knowledge, let alone the midicholorian count data, was ever lost until after the Jedi Temple was destroyed. My opponent says that I must prove that technology advanced to win my point. Ok, well that's fairly simple. Just look at the improved droid armies, the improved star fighters and battle ships. When in history has technology retrogressed over time? As for the Star Forge, Revan didn't build it; he simply found it because Revan and Malak accidentally found the first map. Even though I don't really need to provide technology that was better than the Star Forge (because it's not relevant to who would win a one on one fight) I will. The Death Star could destroy the Star Forge in one shot. Granted, Vader's suit did have metal in it. I can't argue that. However if you read my source from the first round, you'll see that the metal part is only the outer shell. The parts that actually touch him are plastoid, and thus would not easily conduct the electricity to Vader himself. In conclusion, there is no proof that important knowledge was lost from Revan's time to Vader's time. It is irrelevant that Vader was outranked by one civilian. Furthermore, the Emperor was afraid of Vader and Revan's minions did all of his real work. Again, because of the archives Vader would have more access to force knowledge than Revan. As for my case, Vader was one of the best fighters of his time, in a time of many great names. However you can't really make that argument for Revan, since he is never mentioned again after then game. Vader was always prepared and adapted quickly and frequently took on more people than Revan did. Once again, Vader had the highest midicholorian count to date (which would include Revan), thus he had a better connection to the force. Finally, the technology in Vader's suit was far superior to Revan's cloak, and thus gives Vader a very distinct advantage. For all of these reasons I urge you to vote pro. Thank you to the voters and to logical-master for this debate.