Achilles vs Hercules

I have read the Iliad for aincent political philosophy. The two factions fighting was the Achaeans and the Trojans, both of which were located in Greece. And the Achaeans were under the command of Agamemnon. NOT Achilles. Achilles refuses to fight due to his issues with Agamemnon, however Achilles' forces continue to fight without him, hence the death of his best friend. Otherwise that death would not have occured, as he was also an advisor to Achilles. Critical Mistakes My Opponent Makes:1) I was very clear, it was thought or claimed that Achilles would be the son of Zeus. Not that he actually was, however it does seem plausable. In the book Bibliotheke by Pseudo-Apollodorus Zeus and Thetis dated. Same as Thetis and Posideon. In fact, due to the prophecy of Themis, Thetis is forced to marry a mortal, so it is plausable hence thought. As Themis claims that the son of Thetis would overthrow Zeus if she mated with another God. Thus, Metis was not the only holder of the Great Baby. 2) I never claimed Poes shooting Paris offically ends the battle what I clearly implied was that it was a contributing factor as the eventual fall of Troy follows. Please read my statements more carefully. Either way, the impact of Hercules' adventures does appear in the Trojan War. Signaling superiority.3) The ability for Hercules to accomplish his labors was not simply because of brute strength. In fact, one of the cases was his run-in with Atlas in which cunning was needed. My opponent completely drops this point. I never denied that Hercules had brute strength as a leading factor in his abilities. 4) Zeus does not in fact have a "law" about refraining from human interaction. That's an outright lie. Thetis begs Zeus to aid Achilles in stopping the Achaean forces, and because Zeus was fond of Tory, almost annihilates the Achaean forces for revenge against the precieved greivances Achilles had with Agamemnon. In fact, Zeus forces Thetis to marry a mortal to ensure his position as the King of Gods. Zeus interferes plenty with mortals. In fact if he didn't then Hercules would NOT have been born. It is also why Hera hates most of his mortal children, Zeus was known to have sex with mortals causing demi-gods. Other Counters:- Achilles whining, moaning, and complaining displays a complete disregard for his role as a commander in the Iliad. Which in my opinion is signifigant. It showed how reliant he is upon his mother for assistance in the War, which is a weakness distinctly attributed to Achilles. Hercules does not have such a heavy reliance on the Gods. Hercules 1, Achilles 0 - Zeus who has a vested interest in killing Achilles if this was the case (to ensure his son would not be killed) would simply inform Hercules of Achilles' weakspot. Ending any hope Achilles would win. As noted above, this is logically sound, as Zeus does interfere in mortal matters. That's 2 Hercules!- I also noted that he was more prudent than Achilles. This is for several reasons: Rage is a central theme in Homer's Iliad, espescially as to how it impacts Achilles and even the first word in the book is literally "Rage", secondly Hercules' blind fit of rage at first was because Hera drove him mad, not because he had a tempor. Hera, Zeus' wife who hated his illegitimate children often did things to torment them. That's 3 for Hercules folks!- Actually in the death of Patrocleus, yes Achilles kills Hector in a blind fit of rage. I have no idea what your taking about. And due to his death, yes it is reasonable to presume that his heal would be exposed.- Actually Hercules is trained in several arts. Being Greek he would have been trained in wrestling, and was known to be trained in Archery, he beat King Eurytus of Oechalia's sons in the contest. Thus he was trained....we'll call this one a draw My opponent's argument simply rests on the fallacy of begging the question. His premis and conclusions are circular. What his argument can be sunmmarized as is "but he's immortal! but he's immortal! No, he wouldn't hit his heal! He's immortal!" But my opponent never actually counters the fact that in their respective stories Achilles actually dies, while Hercules does not, he rises up to Mount Olympius. And in that novel, in the final paragraph, the Greeks who wrote his story literally reffered to him as "The Greatest Greek Warrior", a clear signal of superiority over Achilles. Finally, what my opponent does on ill-founded logic is completely ignore my argument as to how Hercules would win in a one on one sword fight. How would he win? As I noted before, Zeus would simply have to tell Hercules Achilles' weakspot. And that would be the end of Achilles. Just because your immortal everywhere else does not mean your not subjected to physical punishment. What if Hercules picked him up and bear hugged Achilles? Achilles would be 1) hurt and 2) still alive yes we both agree here. However, all Hercules has to do with the tremendus strenght is hold down Achilles and nail the heal. The game would be over in an instant. My opponent never shows any form of reason why Zeus wouldn't tell Hercules. My opponent makes one final mistake: Hercules' only weakness was Hydra blood soacked tunic. And even then that did not harm is immortal side, only his mortal side. Therefore we can conlude that not only did the Greeks agree that Hercules was a far better warrior than Achilles, but there can be no doubt -- I think -- that Hercules would decimate Achilles in a one on one sword fight. My opponent can try again. Please actually address all of my arguments.