Nadya Suleman should lose custody of her children!

==== "As I've said before,she lacks the parenting skills to raise healthy children,mentally in particular.My opponent says I know nothing about her,when,in fact,that is false.here is a link to prove what I'm talking about. http://news.softpedia.com...; ==== Despite the fact that this link is composed entirely of opinion and conjecture, and that the paparazzi will make anything up to sell a story, I'm willing to concede everything in the link as true. There is still nothing in it to suggest that she should lose custody of her children. I can think of several reasons a court would or should grant a custody change, such as drug abuse in the house, physical or mental abuse of the children, malnutrition of the children, unsuitable living conditions, and so forth. A mother should NOT lose her children unless they are in danger of some kind, and nothing my opponent has provided so far has shown this to be the case. ==== As for the plastic surgery,what sane mother has 6 kids and no job,then turns and thinks, "I want plastic surgery"? Link provided below.It doesn't matter if she had 14 before hand or not,what matters is that she had 6 at the time and ." ==== I can't believe you are questioning this woman's sanity merely because as a mother of six, she felt unattractive and decided to have plastic surgery. This is America, and that is completely normal behaviour. There are people out there who teach their children that they will burn for eternity if they masturbate. There are parents in this country who believe a man was God's son, but was also actually God himself and a ghost at the same time, and then when he was murdered he came back to life, and now, 2000 years later, that means that we can do anything we want and we will still go live on a cloud with a big bearded man in the sky forever. Believing this myth is considered sane in this country, but you would have us believe that the Octomom is a nutcase because she got a bit of plastic surgery? Come on. ==== "http://www.makemeheal.com...... http://www.associatedcontent.com...... The comments from both links provide just reason for her to lose custody." ==== No they don't; the first one is just proof that she had plastic surgery, and the second one gives a list of 20 reasons why a parent may lose physical custody of their children in America. As far as I know, and as far as my opponent has shown thus far, the Octomom is guilty of none of the 20 in the list. ==== She is UNEMPLOYED and that can mcause her to lose custody,as well as this bit of a link http://glosslip.com...... ==== My opponent continues to jump from one side to the other on this issue. For reasons unknown, she doesn't want the Octomom to sell her story to media outlets and make a lot of money in the process. But then my opponent repeats the irrelevant fact that the Octomom is technically unemployed. What does this matter? Just because she doesn't wear a work uniform and clock in and out every day, is no reason to take her children from her. I showed in Round 1 that it will cost her around $2.8M to raise these children, so it's good that she is able to sell her story for so much money. I really don't see the problem. ==== "She thinks she can get away with using them as some paycheck rather than getting off her butt and doing something for them,and MEAN it.She spoke in an interview that she expects help from her family and church,funny how you need help from those certain sources in order to have no points against you for custody.Does she even GO to church? She never talks about it,except for that one time." ==== Nothing of substance to the debate, just more Octomom-bashing on behalf of my opponent. You don't know what she's thinking, so why speculate? Everyone expects help from their family and church, what of it? Who the hell cares if she goes to church or not, if churches wish to keep their tax-exempt status they'd better be helping everyone who shows up, whether they're Flanders-esque churchies or Satanists. She has a right to expect help. -------------- I will repeat the one and only argument I need to uphold my burden in this debate: The Octomom has done NOTHING to warrant the removal of her children from her custody. My opponent is yet to show otherwise, and indeed the very link my opponent provided gave a list of 20 reasons a parent MAY lose custody of their children in this country. The Octomom is guilty of none of them. Thanks.