Abortion

"Rather, pro just dropped a link and this is not considered evidence. Not only that Pro equates the validity of a website with pro-choice in its name to Princeton." You're right, I never claimed that it was evidence. Neither is dropping a link coming from Princeton. You are aware that students can use that link as well, correct? Therefore, any student from Princeton who is anti-abortion could write that article and post it to the link. As for being biased, guess what, both sources are biased. If you really think a link isn't biased because it contains the word "princeton" in it, then you'd be wrong. The reality is, very few people are unbiased. In fact, I am actually one of these people; I've looked at both the pros and the negatives and weighed them appropriately. The pros of being pro-choice VASTLY outweigh the cons. 2) As for your princeton link, it literally says, www.princeton.edu/~prolife. You are claiming MY source is biased for using prochoice in the title, yet you are claiming yours isn't biased for having prolife in the title? Whereas I'm claiming BOTH are obviously biased sources, because relatively few people are NOT biased. Argument and Evidence debunked; you are clearly wrong. I actually DID read the arguments; all they say is quotes from people claiming that human life begins at fertilization. They do NOT provide any evidence whatsoever. Instead, I have asked YOU questions, and your answers are lackluster. "If you were taking scientific aspects into account you perhaps would have referred to my second source when a fetus is "22 weeks old", and not something as trivial as how we refer to people"s age." So, why is the fetus' age considered DIFFERENT than the human's age? You realize that all life forms are measured in years, correct? If a fetus is a HUMAN life, and not just a life, then why are they counted separately? You have proved my point. Argument debunked. As for your question: "Can you answer me why it is that when people want the baby people kiss the mother"s stomach and people who don"t want the baby just call it something like a bundle of tissues?" This has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not something is to be considered human life. It's a matter of perspective; like the glass being half full vs half empty. An irrelevant point. Rather than writing long walls of texts, I highly suggest you think about what you write instead. "No human being should be able to decide what is or isn"t a human being based on their convenience" READING COMPREHENSION ERROR. This is something I agree with and never said, nor I claimed. The mother isn't deciding whether or not it is a human being. Like I said, IF a fetus is a human being, then why can't you answer those questions? And why did the only one that you did answer help prove my point? "I think this is a good question for a separate but have the same issue with the other question. Pro doesn"t give evidence to this but I am honestly no expert with adoptions. But very simply, the baby can be aborted! I am sure others still make the plans prior to birth." No evidence to this? So you need EVIDENCE that adoptions aren't finalized until after the baby is born? If you have evidence to DEBUNK my claim, then feel free to share it. Do I need to provide evidence to you that prolife=anti abortion as well? Do I need to provide evidence that a woman is in pain while giving birth? No, of course not. If you disagree with obvious claims that shouldn't need evidence, then provide evidence and humiliate me, JUST LIKE I DID WHEN YOU CLAIMED THAT BECAUSE YOU COUNT A FETUS' AGE THAT MEANS IT IS HUMAN WHEN IT MEANS THE EXACT OPPOSITE; ALL LIFE IS COUNTED IN AGE, AND IF A FETUS WERE HUMAN, THEN IT WOULDN'T HAVE AN AGE SEPARATE FROM A BABY. "If a fetus is not a person, why do many women experience distress after doing an abortion?" Because it is a form of life, remember? Argument debunked. ""If a fetus is a person does that mean a pregnant woman is two people? Can she drive in the carpool lane? Can she buy two items when a store advertises "one per customer" sales?" That was amusing. But my priority is saving the unborn baby"s life and then I will advocate for these very important issues." Again, ignoring the question. IF A FETUS IS A HUMAN, THEN WHY IS IT NOT COUNTED AS ONE BY ANYONE OR ANY STANDARD OTHER THAN ANTIABORTION PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF? HINT: IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE BIASED AND WRONG. Women's body: "Pro has yet to provide any evidence of this "right" to kill a human being. " AGAIN, THIS IS NOT KILLING. I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME POINT AGAIN, WHICH I'VE MENTIONED THREE TIMES TO YOU NOW: IS IT KILLING A MAN TO NOT LET HIM USE YOUR KIDNEY? YES/NO? NOT LETTING SOMEONE USE YOUR BODY TO SURVIVE IS NOT MURDER, IT IS NOT KILLING, ETC. Argument debunked (for the 3rd time now) "Based on your logic why can"t that right continue after the baby is born? The baby originated from the mother"s body why can"t the mother have the right to kill the baby in her own house? Doesn"t the baby belong to her?" No, the baby is no longer using HER body to survive, AND it is now a human. Argument debunked, and you helped prove my point again. You're not doing very well :( "Pro still did not define the terms of abortion. I proved that the baby can be viable as early as 22 weeks. This is still considered abortion not murder. Pro is yet to address it and seems to classify this as "up in the air"." As I stated very clearly, MULTIPLE times, a woman has the right to choose what she wants with her body. Until the fetus can live on its own WITHOUT the help of a woman's body, abortion is accepted. "I will try to give a more valid comparison. Can we compare an unborn baby to somebody on life support? They both cannot survive on their own and some people believe that one should pull the plug if it is a lifelong coma and that is a separate debate. " BECAUSE THE LUNG MACHINE ISN'T SOMEONE ELSE'S BODY. /DEBATE /THREAD