Determinism

I'll restate what I said previously: If you were given the same exact genes and raised in the same exact environment as a pedophile, would you grow any differently but to have an attraction to prepubescent chilren? Let's say this pedophile also molested a child, can you honestly say that you would have chosen not to do so, given you had the same exact experiences and same genetics as the pedophile? Unless you can somehow prove that a person is capable of making a different choice than someone when they are put in the same exact environment and given the same genes, how can you conclude free will exists at all? Unless there is a possibillity of someone being able to make a different choice, how is there free will?Now, I'll rebut my opponent's arguments: I'll put direct quotes from them in italics, and if the quote is too long, I'll summarize it and put it in bold.I would agree that this process would cause the brain to act independently of our own conscious, but only for individuals who don't have the level of awareness of acknowledging how their conditions and situations have formed their being.It almost sounds like you are rebutting my argument in general. I don't know, it's kind of a grey area. If others agree with me, I would suggest that they vote for me for conduct, as rule 3 stated that the first round used for argument should just be main arguments, and not direct rebuttals of your opponent's main arguments. I'll leave this up to voters to decide. If they think what my opponent is saying in this round is a rebuttal to my points, then I would suggest they vote for me for conduct, as they broke one of the rules. If not, then they can just vote for a tie in conduct. To actually address this argument though, I wold like to ask what evidence you have for individuals who have this level of awareness that they don't have a process that causes the brain to act independently of our own conscious. This would be a bare assertion fallacy or an ipse dixit[9] until you provide evidence that suggests this. There would be people who don't have the brain fire up prior to their conscious decision to move a body part, if what you said is true.I freely move my arm and body, not because my brain fired up beforehand to make it so, but because of my preconceived choice prior to that moment to stretch and exercise as often as possible to help maintain a healthy body.It's also an assumption that this was a preconceived choice. As I pointed out, we all have different brains, different genetics, and different environments. I'm someone who almost never exercises. Are you telling me, that if you were born with my same genetics and lived in my same environment, that you would be able to freely choose to exercise when I couldn't given my genes and environment? And if so, why are you able to exercise where I couldn't? I almost always tell myself that I'll exericise one day, and you could argue that was my "preconceived choice" made prior to when I do actually exercise or not, but I end up almost never actually exercising. It's as though I don't have the will to exercise for some reason, even though I recognize it is a good thing and I want to do it. Now, some people do exercise, but do they have the will to not exercise? Is the choice to not exercise something that their brain would allow them to do? The reason that many people lack the awareness of free will is because their consciousness was formed by external conditions and situations that ultimately decided how they would perceive these externalities as well as their internal self.Well, why doesn't this logic also apply to those who seem to have an awareness of free will? Is it not the case that many people have an awareness of free will "becase their consciousness was formed by external conditions and situations that ultimately decided how they would perceive these externalities as well as their internal self"? A possible reason some people believe they have free will because they have the right genes and environment that developed their brain to have synaptic connections that make them believe they have free will. The awareness and belief someone has free will, however, doesn't prove we have it. The intuition that most people have that they have free will does not prove we have it. So far, my opponent hasn't offered evidence that free will exists. I've offered evidence that suggests events outside of our consciousness determine what our actions will be. I would like my opponent to answer the question I posed at the top though. I challenge my opponent to offer evidence of the free will as well as answering the question I posed at top about the pedophile.Sources:[9] https://en.wikipedia.org...