A just society ought not to use the death penalty as a form of punishment.

His POINT Really? because executing individuals is a form of the death penalty and basing what you said on the status quo, would not all the innocent civilians in Darfur and Chad then have to be criminals in order for your statement to be true? MY REBUTTAL >Execution indeed is a form of death penalty. But as you can see, we are talking about governments who are capable. Not governments such as Sudan, Darfur areas where in governments have no control. So within those countries, Don't expect justice. However, this debate lies on states and countries which has full control over their lands. HIS POINT Next, who decides which crimes or actions merit the death penalty? I never stated in my case that life time imprisonment would equal justice, however i also do not agree with the my opponent when he says that rapist can be given the death penalty. MY REBUTTAL >The State and the society decides. For these groups are the ones capable of having the meter stick and measuring the gravity of the crime done. Not all rape cases is already equitable to death penalty. Such actions has to be considered like pre-meditation of the crime, deception and etc. I have to make clear, that i started the assumption of Lifetime imprisonment for my opponent here is not allowing death penalty. The next highest punishment available is lifetime imprisonment. So i thought that it would be his defense. Next, it seems that in your eyes, there lifetime imprisonment and death penalty is not equal punishment to crimes like rape and murder. then again, what do you plan to give them? What is the justified punishment for you? What are you trying to defend? >as well all know, we can't live in the perfect world that everyone desires. We should stick to reality where in Correction and Punishment must exist to ensure order. And I don't think that order can be kept when ultimatums are taken away. HIS POINT The only way to ever even attempt to justify the death penalty is through equitable justice. Killing rapists is not equitable justice, in fact its so unreasonable that you would in theory have to "Rape the Rapist" for justice to be served. MY REBUTTAL The nature of justice is this. The more acts involved in that crime the heavier punishment you get. We are not raping the rapist if it was not pre-meditated then the jury would justify it as just lifetime imprisonment. HIS POINT Truth on societal breakdown My opponent said that there has been no proof or evidence of a societal breakdown due to division on the death penalty. Um, im pretty sure that many states in our immediate domestic areas are in the supreme court going over cases that determine whether they ought to use the death penalty on rapist as my opponent states. What is there primary division? beliefs from two separate parties. MY REBUTTAL Ladies and gentlemen. Everyone in society is different. Everyone lives in a different point of view. Now tell me Government has the republicans and the democrats still these people can work together in congress. There is a primary division of course But that doesn't equate that the other party would push the other to believe in them. HIS POINT The supreme court recently rejected the request for a rapist in Louisiana to be put to death. My opponent states many times in his case that the death penalty is rightly used on rapist, murderers and ETC! I would like my opponent to explain himself on which of these crimes of ETC are deserving of the death penalty. MY REBUTTAL >Then again, not all rape cases are given death penalty as justified above. We are not doing death penalty because it is the universally accepted punishment. Rather we are doing penalty if the crime is so grave and the only applicable punishment is death penalty. MY CASE Death penalty is a good deterrence to crime. Everyone fears death. Who doesn't? Maybe the irrational people. But as statistics show, Most of the crimes in this human life are pre-meditated. Meaning planned. If you can plot, plan or pre-meditate an act, your mind should be rational in able to do such things. Rational people would also be afraid of death. For death is something irreversible and life cannot be raised up. Deterrence statistics http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org... Therefore if there is deterrence, we can be protected and be ensured. With this, You must vote con. (of course after the debate) :D