Illegal Immigrants are at the base of almost every major problem in America.

Good round. I was expecting this to be a radical hate speech, but your arguments are very intelligent. However, I think that there are some holes in your contention. Here are my rebuttals to your respective points: 1) Crime. Yes, the fact that immigrants crossed the border illegal would make them criminals. However, I think that the law is "criminal." If we made it easier to become a US citizen, then there would never be illegal immigrants. So it's not the immigrants fault for coming here, it's the laws fault for not accepting them. "Since 9/11 42,000 people have been murdered by illegal immigrants. That is more than 10x the amount of American soldiers that have died in Iraq!" Interesting statistic (a source would be nice). But I would like to see the number of people that have been killed by legal citizens. The San Diego Union-Tribune put out an article that said over 100,000 people have been killed since 9/11. Assuming your source is correct, 58,000 people have been killed by legal immigrants. That's 16,000 more people that legal citizens have killed than illegal immigrants. But you're right, border cities are violent and gangs are comprised of mostly illegals, but so far, I've proven legals have done more damage than illegals. "More than 25% of illegal immigrants have a criminal record!" Another un-sourced quote. However, I would also like to see how many of those crimes were violent offenses. Probably not many. Remember, illegals commit crime because they are poor and oppressed; most crimes are probably petty theft or other nonviolent crimes. Instead of locking them up in detention centers, why isn't anyone wonder "Why are they so desperate?" It amazes me that we are so lazy that instead of addressing the problem at its source, we come up with these unreasonable short-term solutions. 2. Drugs. Again, why do you think that immigrants resort to drug dealing? Because it's an "easy" way to make a lot of money, really fast. I know I've said this a lot, and I'll probably say it a lot more, but this is more than a debate for me. The laws we have are not just. They are the reason why immigrants have such a hard time in this country. Did you know that it takes over 6 months to gain citizenship? That is ridiculous, and some families cannot wait that long. 3. Economy/health care. I won't fight you on health care. illegal immigration does call problems there, but I'm not sure what you mean by that last half. You say that there are no immigrants working "undesirable" jobs, but then you say that Americans are denied jobs because of immigration. Could you clarify your contradiction? 4. Immigration. "This system we have put forth is long and detailed. There is a reason for it. It is to protect the citizens in America already." In America, we have yet to try an immigrant friendly system. So how do you know that you need these overtly harsh rules, if there hasn't been anything but? "Yet it is undermined by the illegals, they show no regard for our laws." But we show no regard for their right to life. They have a right to feed their families and to send their children to schools. Yet, ignore their problems. Our philosophy is "Well, they broke the law, now we have an excuse to deport them." There's something wrong with that statement. 5. National Security. You have a point with the dirty bomb. I will assume that you are referring to terrorism. If someone really wanted to make an impact, they wouldn't carry a small bomb across the border. They would fly a plane into something. Terrorists would not waste their time crossing the border, just so they could go to a place like Yuma, Arizona. If they ever tried to do anything again, it would by through aviation methods. "...lets face it, our government is already corrupt." You don't see anything wrong with that statement. Our corrupt officials are the ones making these laws. If they are so corrupt, why do you agree with their policies? I hate to sound redundant, but we need to fix the situation we put immigrants in. You could trace their struggle all the way back to the Mexican-American War (that is another debate all together). But if we are responsible, why are we holding them responsible? If we fix the system, everyone wins and the things you talk about would not be problems.