Humans Can be Good Without God

Burden of Proof is the matter here to my opponent. Which I knew from an atheist that this debate would be circular; and have a few Dawkin's or Hitchen's quotes. In my opening I clearly marked every point that you made and clarified it. I also gave you physical proof of a God that people believe in that people follow. All of my evidence comes from history and not biased websites. I will prove in this that people cannot be good without God. The Sweden dilemma - This will be circular; Atheist will point out Sweden every time. A country that does not even require a census bureau. No one in Sweden is checking on churches or mosques. Sweden like many other small European countries is just that small. It is though harboring a huge amount of Islam inside its boundaries. Recent Muslim sources are saying over 25 percent of Stockholm is Islamic. If you look closely at your report it is not that they do not believe in God my friend. It is that they do believe in something therefore they are agnostic. So they do have their own God just not what many of us think as a God. I am although not agreeing with your source just debunking it. It does say they believe in something just not what. As to the validity of my sources. My validity is archaeological evidence that are in the museums that I stated. If you want you can look at the quotes and see that it will say where they are and in what book. The Harvard text book I was using uses almost all of them. I Gave my opponent the burden of proof with the evidence therefore the burden of proof is on him now; We all know that it will be impossible for an atheist to prove their is no God. This is the one thing that they can never do in debate. You have no physical proof when I have a walking God in the flesh I have proven he was historically reliable. In a court of law I would have cause beyond a reasonable doubt. With your quotes on Albert Einstein.... You realize again that he believed in God he just didn't realize what he was looking for. He says it in the quotes you used. Here is another quote from the confused Mr. Einstein I can clarify this one. "Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect as well as the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper." - Albert Einstein You gave a weak argument for people can be good without God. Because obviously even Einstein believed in something. Clarity of what Einstein was looking for.. Christ Said this in Revelation 22:13 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. As humans we are in no order to question God therefore we have no control over it. We all do dance to a tune called creation. The invisible piper is God. Everything God decrees happens - .Is14:24,27;43:13;55:11;Jn10: 29;Heb6:17;Mt28:18;Examples: Dan - 9:26;11:27,35,36;12:1 He knows & sees all - .1Jn3:20;Ps139;Pr5:21;15:3; Heb4:13;Is46:10 God does as He pleases - Mt20:15;Ps115:3;135:6;Rm9:20;Dn4:35 Nothing is too hard for God - Gen18:14;Jb42:2;Jer32:17; Mt19:26 God rules over all. Ps 103:19 Now he will say I challenge the Validity of your sources. So I will give you this my sources are from the Greek Bible. These were translated from Aramaic and Hebrew. They have over 5300 Identical copies in college libraries around the world. This is supported by the largest religious population in the world. Christianity. I will cite a small percentage of my vast sources the final round. The Scientific data? why would I use it. I just used common since with the dog statement. Dog's get jealous of their bone. Just as the monkey with his banana. You don't see millions of people claiming to be coming from dog's because there dog's are jealous of bones. This point with the monkey you made is not valid. You yourself are not backing up claims with any proof. You are backing up everything with a theory of something that someone made up. Therefore it is my solid evidence against your frail argument. With what you said about God destroying things in the Old Testament.... God is right and wrong. He created the universe a human has no power to question his authority. What God does is not of our standard but of his. Sodom and Gomorrah these places have been found. (http://www.arkdiscovery.com...) We all know that this place was wicked so God destroyed it because their was no inherit good in it. The flood of Noah This took place after God told his faithful servant to build an Ark. People laughed and scorned Noah but indeed there was a flood and Noah with his family survived the flood. I can go on and on with these but the point is; humans that believe in God do not question God. Without God we would have no rules. Evidence is in the Validity of the scriptures as historical evidence. This has been prove even my opponent said this is true. So to argue with the Torah scriptures is a bad argument for you. The Children of Israel believed in God. They followed his commands when they didn't God indeed punished them. After this though with the New Testament we were offered a new covenant through Christ our Lord to accept. I as a Christian accepted this covenant. God does bestow free will on us. Are you not able to go to the store and choose what food you would like to eat? Are you not able to believe in atheism? Are you not able to go out and murder someone if you would like? This is free will the thought process of man. We believe Christ will come back and punish the ones who have not accepted him as God. We believe in as free will the choice to accept Christ. The Torah was for guidance and what could happen if God's children walk off the beaten path. The Bible is still held as the most accurate book in history by more than 8,000 scholars. So my claim is in no way dishonest because we do have FREE WILL. Neurotics again is not anything reliable. Neurotic science came from people who were diagnosed with neurosis. Neurosis which is a condition in where one is completely stressed and cannot function properly was medically thrown out years ago. Neurotic by definition is just this Oxford Dictionary Neurotic Science - Of, relating to, or affected with a neurosis. No longer in scientific use. There is no Neurotic science. There is no verifiable definition for it. Therefore my opponent must be making things up along the way. Not a reliable source to base arguments on. Kin Selection - Never proven by anyone. This cannot be proven because there are people who kill their families and kin. Greg Miller - No name psychologist with a pointless study. look him up for yourself people. Dr.Trivers - Another study in which only himself and maybe you believe in it?.... These cites are not valid and would be thrown out in a debate or court of law. The simple statement is the only reason we have Good is because we have a God. This is theology and an Atheist is not one to question it. God is what made human society know good from evil. If we had never known this we would still be animals. God just makes sense it has every question answered you would want it too from the beginning to the end. God is real it is just up to you to look for it. C.S Lewis the former atheist and one of the greatest writers of all time put it as this. My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? - Mere Christianity I have given my opponent proof beyond a reasonable doubt I will cite all sources next round. I will keep it to only 50 to 100 of reliable college cites. People that can do good without God we call them something They are either Faithless. Or they are Criminal