BLM is NOT worse than the KKK

My opponent said the following: "I am actually shocked by my opponent's arguments. He seems to be confused. He focuses on rebutting pointless rhetoric and yet ignores or glosses over substantive arguments. I don't get this strategy. Take for instance where I point out that the KKK started out the same way as BLM in the sense that members of both groups felt like victims and sprang up in anger. My opponent goes on to point out incidences of bad things KKK members did to disprove a piece of rhetoric, and is even unsuccessful at that. Not only do the negative events not disprove the KKK started the way I said, but they aren't even relevent to the debate, because we are debating what both groups are currenty or recently engaged in. " I believe my opponent forgot (or conveniently) skimmed through my argument because I was basing my previous argument based off the source that he used. When my opponent stated the origin of the KKK referring to their initial organization as a struggle against social injustice using his source I wasn't referring to simple "piece of rhetoric," I was pointing out how their actions severely outweighed whatever their initial intent was. The main theme of my last post was that the KKK intentionally killed people and was the source of being an influence in the Dylan roof case. If my opponent has any issue of me addressing the point...My opponent needs to understand that I am addressing his views paragraph from paragraph.... My opponent states: "I could similarly ask what is the social justice for the numerous things the BLM movement has done, such as things listed in the last round, but it is a silly question. The current actions of a group does not necessarily reflect the reason for the groups formation." I disagree. the current actions of a group does reflect the reason for a groups formation. Just as Frazier Glenn's actions of the Jewish Center killings, reflects his belief as a Klan member. See: http://www.cnn.com... My opponent states: "What he is, is a self styled white nationalist. The KKK can't be blamed for that, he got his ideology from that christian group." The KKK is a white nationalist group. Regardless who or where he received his ideas, he mentioned the KKK and even if he remotely wanted them to act, the very mentioning of the Klan is important enough to mention in this debate. "Statements from KKK FAQ" My opponent is now quoting from the KKK website...Great idea considering no organization is outright going to tell people they influence people to hate, but I shall entertain this.... My opponent quotes: "Why do you think you are so superior to everyone else? A. We don"t care who is superior and who isn"t. God made us all." According to one source: "The KKK"s core belief is to restore America back to being a white, Christian nation free from drugs, homosexuality, immigration, and race-mixing, which the group attributes to the country"s downfall. Extreme pride comes at the forefront of their ideology. On their website, they claim to be proud of their race, history, and traditions. They refer to the acts that the KKK did in the past as accomplishments, and believe they are, in essence, building a better society for everyone to live in." In addition: "The KKK page immediately begins by trying to dispel lies told about them through the "liberal news media." One of the first things they claim is that they are not a group of hate but of love"love for their country and their people." See: http://guardianlv.com... Again no organization which intends to attract people is going to outright state they hate, just as gangs do not refer to themselves as gangs but as a family. Certain organizations tend to code their hateful language to market appeal. My opponent quotes the following: "Q. Why do you kill black people? A. This is almost too stupid of a question to answer, but since some misled person is probably going to ask " even though it isn"t frequently asked " we"ll answer it in this section. We don"t kill black people." Right, they only target people of Jewish descent: Suspect In Killings At Kansas City Jewish Sites Linked To KKK " has more background. http://www.npr.org... But I guess they occasionally shoot at BLM: "On Monday in Minneapolis, a group of white supremacists opened fire on Black Lives Matter protesters assembled in protest of another officer-involved shooting of an African American witnesses say was handcuffed. Five of the protesters were shot and sustained injuries; injuries that law enforcement curiously stressed were "not life-threatening." Reports in local media announced that the three white male suspects were reported to be "wearing masks and bulletproof vests;" likely an updated version of the KKK"s historic bed-sheet-and-hood uniform." See: http://www.politicususa.com... "As we can see, the KKK also attempts to paint itself in a good light. This is why we judge a group based on it's actions." This we can agree that any organization can paint itself as positive however the klan and BLM are apples and oranges as I have noted the reference to Frazier's shootings. "The outlaw behavior such as shutting down highways so people can't rush their newborn babies to the emergency room, rioting, looting , as well as many other things." Again, can you discern miscreants within the black lives matter protests as actual members or opportunists to commence in destructive behavior? "This is without even going into the thinly veiled hate of the message my opponent shared, which presumed that cops are trained to treat black citizens differently, or that police are a threat to the black community, or for blaming police for the stereotypes that some communities they police give them." Unsubstantiated? Blacks treated differently? I submit the following: "Landmark Decision: Judge Rules NYPD Stop and Frisk Practices Unconstitutional, Racially Discriminatory. August 12, 2013, New York " In a landmark decision today, a federal court found the New York City Police Department's highly controversial stop-and-frisk practices unconstitutional.Aug 21, 2014" See: http://ccrjustice.org... Cops do treat minority communities differently...I also submit the following video link to "substantiate" this claim "My opponent has dropped my arguments from the previous round, the arguments about shut downs of traffic, rioting, celebrating the death of police, lawlessness etc.. This should be counted against him, and since his evidence consists of lone nuts in no way associated with the KKK and provably so, this debate is an obvious win for me." You have not shown evidence that the looting, and destruction of property was done by "blacklivesmatter" the burden is on you to "substantiate" that blacklivesmatter was responsible. So how can I address your supposed claim if you have not supported your assertion yourself?