Being vegan

Thank you for responding. I am aware of the somewhat pretentious and audacious attitude of my argument, but it is just to provoke a response and give me something to argue that is quite difficult, as it is an uncustomary point of view. Everybody I know is a meat-eater, and I don't sit in my room alone hiding from the world. What my frail attempt at humor is trying to say is that I don't think meat eaters are stupid. Nor are they ignorant to anything else but life (life being the earthlings). They may be very good at lots of things, and not ignorant to everything else, but they MUST be ignorant to life (UNLESS they are more selfish or less caring than the vegans). Your argument. " I am sure there are many biologists, gastroenterologists, vets, and pro animal rights people who eat meat, me falling under the last one. Being at least one of the things on the preceding list should disqualify ignorance as a reason for eating meat." I agree. If these people are not ignorant to the suffering of the meat industry then IGNORANCE can be crossed of the list. These people must, therefore, be either more selfish (they care more about their own needs than others) or less caring (care less for the suffering of others) than those who choose to not support it. Your argument. In a nutshell, you said "Simply put, humans are selfish" I agree. But there are differing levels of selfishness. We cannot accept responsibility, as individual people, born into a corrupt, earth destroying species/society. We make our own choices because that's all we can do, Gandhi said "be the change you want to see in the world". I believe this. Every cultural norm was held in place by the mentality you have just revealed to me. If everybody was like you, the world would still be trading slaves. My goal in life is to play my part in ending the suffering of the world, and I know I wont succeed, but I will die trying. So you may say humans are selfish but I don't believe we are. I think the reason suffering continues is because good men fail to act. (I know that's already been spoken lol). I don't expect everybody to be a revolutionary but eating meat when you are aware of the suffering must involve some sense of selfishness. One of the comments admits to being a bit selfish. Your argument is basically that everybody is selfish. I would say that all life is selfish, but we have the capacity to not be selfish. As a whole we are selfish, but individually we don't have to be. Not everybody is, those who are aware of the suffering and still choose to support it are acting more selfishly than those who also aware, but choose to not enjoy meat in order to not support it. I don't see how anyone could disagree. Meat eaters just want it both ways, i.e to be seen as good, aware people and also to take material pleasure at the expense of a creature. You say. "I am a more selfish, less caring person than you are because I have different eating choices?" Well when you put it like that and just ignore the consequences of the eating choices it sounds like i am crazy. You could say that about anything, like "I am bad just because I have different recreational choices?" when the recreational choice is dog fighting. So no, its not because you choose to eat different food, its because you support the suffering and murder of fellow earthlings purely for pleasures of the flesh. (no pun intended). You would not support it if you didn't have to give up meat would you? You know you would say to shut them factories down if you didn't have to give up your steak. Be honest with yourself. For the record, we don't have different eating choices, I absolutely love meat (Chicken,beef,lamb,duck,pork,bacon,salmon,pigeon you name it) and I am a chef so I love to cook and I love meat with every meal. I am a vegan now though. So I have pretty much had to give up my true pleasure in life in order to align my life with my soul. Thank you