The Biblical God is Immoral

The Old Testament commands that people that work on Sunday should be killed. 2. Killing someone for working on a particular day is unjust, under all circumstances. 3. Unjust laws are immoral. 4. The bible contains immoral laws. 5. Christians claim that the biblical God wrote the Bible. 6. The biblical God is immoral for commanding the death of people that worked on a particular day. Con’s rebuttal is basically broken down into the following propositions. I am paraphrasing Con’s argument in bold to save on characters. Con claims I have the burden of proof (BOP) to show that killing someone for working on Sunday is immoral. Con used an example that if your neighbor was Hitler and he wasn’t obeying the law, it would be perfectly acceptable for killing them for working on Sunday (for example, mowing his lawn). To compare someone that works on a Sunday with Hitler is ludicrous. Con claims I took the verse in question out of context. Con never explained in what way it was taken out of context. If I want to properly convey a message in writing, I can simply write my words and people understand what I am saying. If I told someone in writing to kill someone else for a particular offense, it would be very easy to communicate this with no confusion. If God’s writing is so easy to take out of context, then that would imply I am a superior writer and communicator than God. Con claimed it was a double standard to say the Bible is false yet quote bible verses. I am quoting bible verses that contained early Judeo laws that one should be killed for working on a Sunday. I am saying that law is immoral, therefore the author promoted immoral laws. Because I believe that the Bible is not the word of god does not mean I can’t say its laws are immoral. Con’s response that it is moral to kill someone for working on Sunday is that because the Bible claims that, a) the bible is true, b) God wrote the bible, and therefore the execution for this offense is moral. This is obvious circular reasoning. If Con really believes this, he cannot fault Muslim extremists for the atrocities they commit because of literal interpretation of the Koran or the human sacrifice of the Incas in observance to their laws. People cannot simply claim their religion is correct, and all the others are incorrect, and expect others to believe this without question. Con claims there is record of only one person being executed for working on the Sabbath. Living in a harsh environment where survival could be determined by predators killing your animals, weather destroying your crops, plundering by neighboring peoples or extreme temperatures, working on a Sunday would eventually become inevitable by someone trying to avoid calamity of varying degrees. Any claim that there are exceptions are simply baseless assertions. Does the number of people that were killed for working on Sunday change whether the law was moral or not? Can Con find any example of any law requiring death where only one person was executed? Remember, there was almost 2000 years between Abraham and Jesus. If Con argues that not all were executed, then the ones that were, were even more unjust. Then one would have to ask why there were inconsistencies in the enforcement of the law if it is so important and so offensive to God. In modern society, we always punish someone for heinous crimes without exception. Con claims killing someone for working on Sunday was for a legitimate reason. “The Sabbath was part of the Law in that sense. In order to "remain" in favor with God, you had to also keep the Sabbath. If it was not kept, then the person was in sin and would often be punished” The punishment in this case was execution. The crime was being out of favor with God for working on Sunday. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that the Koran commands Muslims to kill the infidels and many non-Muslims have died because of this command. There is no difference. If anything the Old Testament is more harsh because it commanded the killing of believers for a simple act that most people do today. According to the New Testament stories, even Jesus knew the Old Testament laws were immoral. Remember, he instructed people to ignore the law BEFORE his death (obviously, but I’m sure the reader understands the implications). “The death was simply a just execution. I can only recall one instance where this law was carried out. And that was right after the law was given to the people. There was a man who instantly when out and collected sticks for work. Back then, this would have been the equivalent of someone giving the finger to God. ” Would you kill your child if they disobeyed you? If someone killed their child for disobedience that didn’t hurt anything but their pride, wouldn’t you consider them a monster? Why is this not obvious? This is why religion is so scary to me. This is just a different flavor of the same kind of cognitive dissonance that made Muslim extremists should “God is great! ” as the twin towers fell. “God didn't rest on the Sabbath because he was tired. Look who is making up stuff about the Bible now. Since God never gets tired (Isaiah 40:28), we know that God rested on the Sabbath in order to set the example that the people were to follow. And no one mentioned anything about killing children. This was a law that established the covenant that the people had with God. If you rejected that, then you also rejected all the gifts that God offers humans (including life). ” That answer trades one nonsensical reason for killing someone for another nonsensical reason. Basically, it just says that an example for required resting methods must be followed or they will be killed. “Nothing about the offense was trifle. I would recommend my opponent read the Bible before making such accusations. ” This answer was given to my statement that I wouldn’t kill my children for such a trifle offense as working on a particular day. It is incredibly trifle. The amount of spite and vengefulness a father would have to have to kill his children for something like that is staggering. (My use of children is not referring to age but is conveying the relationship perceived by believers with their god. ) As an ex-Christian that wanted to reinforce my belief by finding evidence the bible was credible, I have read the Bible in its entirety, on my own, at least eight times. With that said, one does not have to read the bible to know what the command to kill people for working on Sunday means. “By the way, I would have no issue discrediting the Koran. The man who wrote it actually thought demons were speaking to him when he was originally writing the book.