God gives us free will

Yes I do. How does that correlate with hell or the Bible? The murderer/robber would be guilty according to the Bible, and the person who died would be innocent. I don't understand your point. You also haven't related it to the Bible at all. I kind of understand what you are getting at here thought, about hell being the robber potentially? Regardless, I will address this more later. My main point was you didn't specifically correlate this to the Bible. First off, I wasn't ranting about hell. I was telling you how it does the same function as prison. They are almost identical. As for it being torture, it is not a straw man argument at all. I am just showing the parallels between jail/prison and hell. My main point was, how can you be against hell, but not prison? You never answered that. Secondly, like I stated, if you think hell establishes no free will, then why are you not against all prisons in general? Prisons punish people who commit crimes, yet you are not stating that prisons don't give us any free will? According to your logic people wouldn't have any free will with prisons existing because it limits what they are allowed to do [perform crimes]. I would read the Bible. Also, take in account God did create them. I digress, Jesus' birth and same with John the Baptist's birth break natural laws. God can easily make a rock he can't lift, yet he can still lift something he can't lift. God is a spirit [John 4:24] and he can manifest himself in a body [John1:1]. So, all God would have to do is not to use anything spiritual to lift the rock. Say it weighs 10,000 pounds. His flesh body can't lift it. However, if he does like what is Mark 11:23 with the mountain, the rock will easily be lifted/moved. A math problem he can't solve? Well I just showed how the previous example is refuted, you can basically apply it to the next one. However, can you create something without creating it? Of course not, that doesn't mean you are not omniscient. This is a straw man argument that is used often. The definition of omniscient does not require these things. God just needs unlimited knowledge and understanding, which he does have. It does not mean he has to perform the tasks you have outlined [even though I explained how he could do them anyways]. To further prove it, I'll define omniscient: om"nis"cient/;4;mG2;n=8;@3;ənt/ Show Spelled [om-nish-uhnt] Show IPA adjective 1. having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things. noun 2. an omniscient being. 3. the Omniscient, God. References: http://dictionary.reference.com... That is not true. You can know what someone is going to do, and they still have free will. I know that if I put cat treats on the floor, that they will run and eat them. They don't have to do it, they have free will, but I know what they will do. Refer to Romans 8:29-30 on this exact matter. God knowing what you will do does not restrain from what you can do. Read Romans 1 on the homosexuals who perverted God's image and who he was, and regardless of what he did, they'd never listen to him. Therefore, he let them do what they wanted because they'd never listen to him. So no, your claim is false. Yes it does, you just don't want it to. Cats eating treats is not a survival instinct, but fine, I'll give you another example. Someone has not eaten in days, and are starving to death. If I give them bananas, they will eat them. Or let me change from food to something else. If you act sexy to your spouse and you bring them to the bedroom, you will have intercourse. Now you can say these are all survival instincts etc., but come on now. We can go against our survival instincts. If not, then we'd have no free will, right? I think you misunderstand completely. I have refuted all of your arguments. You claim I am using a straw man argument when that is what you did yourself. You haven't shown that God does not give us free will, according to the Bible. Also, according to the logic you used, none of us have free will because prison exists. Your own logic ruined your argument, because you didn't elaborate on my argument about prisons. Also your argument on instincts, let alone it be for cats, would mean some animals have no free will either. So what is it? In conclusion, I have refuted all of my opponent's arguments. My opponent never answered my question on prisons. I have shown how God does give us free will, even though he knows what we are going to do. I thank my opponent for this debate, and may the LORD GOD bless you all. On a final note, vote for who you want via the comment section unless you have a high enough elo rating.