Debate.org should have a message system so members can communicate more efficiently.

As this is the last round I urge you to read carefully. ___________ 1. Good question. My opponent states that no one has the right to imply correctness, but this would be hypocritical on his behalf. -Ah but in this case we do. Though my logic seems hypocritical it actually is different in stance. When using should in "Debate. org SHOULD have a message system", we are not speaking about you or me, people with free will, but about an online entity. -As they teach in the workplace: 'The customer is always right. ' This applies directly to our situation here on debate. org. We pay by investing time and clicking adds, and our product is forums to debate. -So in my resolution "Debate. org SHOULD have a message system", my logic does not fail because it doesnt apply to changing an individuals mind, removing freewill. _____________ 2. This point is called cheating. As stated before, (and which I clarify below as well), the tools are already with us. We can already search debate topics and successfully STEAL another debate. It is already up to debaters to combat against plagiarized work. 2a. ". .. group tactic that already occurs on this site. .This would make that same movement just a little more sophisticated and more attainable. .enhance that possibility of occurrence. " -As Con clearly states, this already occurs. Even if my plan increased, say, the speed of people voting against someone by letting one message eachother fast, it could have occured anyways. I can create 20 accounts and vote for myself every debate, but that doesnt mean we shouldnt have free sign ups. For all we know, these debaters who vote for eachother could all be the same person. - I argue that these occurences are just as likely to occur now than when we would have a message system. A new message system could even CUT BACK on these occurences because other member would be able to read others comments, and everyone already has the ability to contact a webmaster. 2b. " This is true. But, I don't think my opponent understands the difference between researching and blatantly cheating. .. .unlike a human being whom has the capabilities to read the arguments and feed you specific responses. " -I do understand the difference. It only ISNT plagiarizing if you give the SOURCE INFORMATION. As in debate, it is the DEBATERS responsibility to pick out good information. How so? Asking the opponent, "Where do you get your information? " If they cannot answer, they lose due to breaking debate conduct, plagiarizing or falsifying evidence. -In regards to if a human being is there reading argument and helping with specific responses, I state this: if there is no way to prove that another is cheating, that person cannot be held responsible. As stated before, it is already assumed in debate that each side will question one another their best, which including making sure background information and evidence is sound. ____________ 3. ". .my point about how MORE personal communication would occur, and as my opponent conceded, this would create MORE negative relationships. Essentially, his movement would enhance the negative aspects of this site. " -My opponent here is contradicting himself. As I stated many relationships are negative on this site, and my opponent concedes to this himself. THOUGH, he states that many more people will be gaining friendships and helping eachother vote, QUITE the opposite of this statement. How can the majority both be hating itself more and growing more friendships at the same time? Unless Con can prove the valdity of this arugment, as it is his own, is fails and should be seen as negated. 3a. ". .this "easily accessible information" would be a nicer way to term cheating. " + "I respectfully disagree, plagiarizing is an EXTREMELY negative part of this site, and in no way should it EVER be accepted, NOR enhanced. " -Still so, my argument stands that the information is ALREADY accessible without this plan. Once again, Con states that plagiarzing is ALREADY occuring on this site. -In terms of this 'information' aspect of this debate I state: When Con states that this will increase cheating I disagree, it takes EQUAL if not less effort (depending on where your mouse is) to steal an argument off Google then it is to search through debate. org. IN FACT, if you wanted to, on google, all you do is put your search terms, say, "Senator Mccain does not qualify to be President. ", a DIRECT link will be provided to debate. org's page on that very debate. Very easy. 3b. ". .NOR enhanced" By stating that plagiarizing should never be enchanced is saying that information should not be readily accessible. Plagiarizing only occurs if one of free will allows it, therefor, they only enhance it themselves, it is not the sites doing. ___________ 4. "slander would be solved COMPLETELY, because comments would not be allowed on your personal page. Control OR Solve? I'd chose the latter. " 1st - No, it would not. Comments could still be slanderous on the debate page. Comments on your personal page are only considered slander is the PERSON feels it was malicious, thus YOU control what is acceptable on your page. But the debate page is much more broad. 4a. "Please disregard this statement" Done ____________ 5. "This is mark of concession. .. Not that this really makes much of an impact. " You are right, THOUGH to be critical, You stated that is SHOULD be, I stated that it WAS. And concession has such bad connatation, so I thought I'd argue something. This feeling extends to: "This is another mark of concession. " "Another mark of concession. " "But, a new messaging system is not another way to debate, it is simply another form of communication. There is a difference. " Yes communication and debate are different. However, Can you not debate through messages? In fact, you can. Thus IT IS another way to debate. This argument by Con is flawed. ___________ 6. "Myspace is VERY popular, period. That is definitely something I would agree with. " -Excatly, why so? Because of all the features, messages, comments, bullitens, blogs. Allow me to use your logic. Myspace is fun because you can message and comment one another. Thus, Websites are fun when they have messages and comments. Therefor, Debate. org will be fun with messages and comments. And because it ALREADY is fun, it will be MORE fun, as FUN is being added into it. 6a. ". .the people here on debate. org share contrasting views from the majority of myspace users. .People come here to debate, not to enjoy casual conversation. The need to converse is already satisfied through the comments section. " + "Eventually, this site would become a "myspace that happens to have a debate corner". This is a HUGE Assumption by Con. In fact I can disprove satisfaction, myself, a member, is NOT satisfied. And how is he to assume this will be another Myspace? Adding a message system is not making it Myspace Jr. , that argument can extand to any site with those features. TO CON AND THE VOTERS: • My opponent's plan would enhance cheating. <-- Has been proven wrong: My plan in no way makes it 'subjectivly' EASIER to cheat. It is but a flick of the wrist in any direction to get information on the internet. I'm sure voters can relate to this and see that Con's argument has been proved wrong, and mine withheld. • My opponent's plan defeats the purpose of this site. <-- This in NO WAY defeats the purpose. The purpose is to debate, and too debate you need information, this is just another avenue. • The power to delete should lay SOLELY in the hands of the webmaster. <-- CON Restates this yet, it is NOT a topic of debate. This should be disregarded, Con uses this to add on a reason to bulk the look of his stance. • The system is not more fun. <-- Con argued that my plan is VERY POPULAR among users of other sites. Thus, it is indeed fun. The Resolution stands. I urge you to Vote Pro! !