Father Xmas & Pure Orange Juice analogies decimate trinitarian & J.w. ideologies

PRO: Alan Hayward is a christadelphian and his factual statement also thrashes the entire trinitarian premiss! CON: No it doesn't, because his 'factual' statement has nothing to do with the Trinitarian premises. Assuming the veracity of this statement, which is in itself a dubious venture, the only conclusion that could possibly be drawn is that which is explicitly stated, i.e. 'he was never a real man'. However, that doesn't even begin to touch upon anything Trinitarian. PRO: The statement decimates the trinity concept easily as it exposes the trinitarian belief that a literal pre-existant ' god-person ' allegedly became a 100% human + 100% god person in human form! Con vindicates Pro by these facts by Con's own catholic testimony - (I quote) " the son is god . . . . . . . . the Son of God, came upon earth . . . . PRO is vindicated by Con using Pro's analogy - If Story book jesus was really a god, or even a mighty angel who once lived in heaven, then he was never a real man, but a Divine Person dressed up in human flesh. (Source: http://www.god-so-loved-the-world.org.................. - Alan Hayward is a christadelphian and his factual statement also thrashes the entire trinitarian premiss!) & Oops! & again fatal for trinitarians - cf. IF Story book jebus = 100% a man, then there is NO room for a god! & CON: Who, besides PRO, has said anything about Story book jebus being 100% a man? It doesn't appear anywhere in the definition I provided in Round 1. PRO: Of course you didn't want to openly provide that also as it is again fatal to your ideology! I would of course be delighted for you to provide proofs that you DO NOT believe Story book trinitarian jebus was 100% a man & 100% a pre-existent god come to earth and I wait in further delight for you to do so in the last round OR at ANY time? CON: My belief or disbelief of anything is irrelevant. PRO: What a dishonest statement of yours that is! e.g. IF your belief or disbelief of anything is irrelevant then explain why you are trying (allbeit it shockingly poorly) to express what your beliefs & disbeliefs are here in this Debate? CON: Even if these other facts are indeed fatal to my cause, they still fail to affirm the resolution. Bottom Line: Those facts you can not legitimately refute! Those facts (my 2 analogies) you can't legitimately refute and you wanted to try to ' Move the Goal-Posts ' from the start of your responses - CON WROTE: Resolved: Father Xmas & Pure Orange Juice analogies decimate trinitarian & J.w. ideologies If PRO takes issue with this, I am amenable to modifications. PRO: I didn't take issue with that because I agree with you that the Resolution you put forward is fatal to your cause and your wanting to ' MODIFY ' those fatal facts to try to squirm away from I wouldn't permit because it is a scam / duck & dive ' tactic for you to attempt to do so! CON: -----Skip PROs pointless quoting of my source----- PRO: Not pointless by any means! CON's LINK claims that a literal pre-existant godperson ' literally came to the earth '. CON: It never says that he came upon earth as a 100% man 100% god, does it? It never says that he came upon the earth as a real man, does it? Of course it doesn't, and that should be obvious to anyone. It is OBVIOUS TO ANY rational reader that it is common knowledge likely even to blind Freddy, that the Johnny Come Lately corrupt catholic trinitarian ideology incorporates other fabricated and 100% human concocted terms like (Hypostatic union & Incarnation) in their feeble attempt to explain what they subsequently admit all boils down to a ' trinitarian mystery? ' LOL! CON Conclusion PRO hasn't really addressed my arguments, nor has he affirmed the resolution. PRO: You have failed to actually present ANY rational arguments showing that you do not believe my two analogies! ALL you have tried to do is move the goal-posts, restrict the evidence to the single Link you gave and denying the obvious that the trinitarian ideology incorporates 3 god-persons and one of them coming to earth disguised as a human being. Read that fatal admission from the pages of your own catholic verses - "Men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God, with mighty works and wonders and sings which God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know- (Acts 2:22) RSV catholic Story book 1966 edition ANY sane reader would accept that Acts 2:22 is unambiguously clarifying that Story book jebus WAS NOT GOD but merely a man that was empowered by his God to to Godly things! However trinitarian catholics like YOU do not accept NOR believe your own Story book, because you claim it was literally 100% Story book GOD in 100% Human form / literally a 100% god in literal 100% human flesh! Hence you have proven my arguments that 1. YOU DO in fact believe as follows - "Jesus was not a man born and bred, he was God for a limited period taking part in a charade. He looked like a man, but underneath he was God dressed up - like Father Christmas." CON has failed to disprove that fact! & 2. CON actually is proven to believe my other analogy also and both my analogies remain vindicated also even by CONS own overall testimony actually supporting & vindicating my two analogies both fatal to Cons cause i.e. - IF Story book jebus = 100% a man, then there is NO room for a god! CON has failed to disprove that fact! Conversely - This is precisely what CON has been shown and proven to believe; despite CONs failed attempts to deceive us that he doesn't!