According to the Characteristics of Yaweh, Predestination is Evident

C1:Omniscience Free will does not apply to when we die, but what we choose to do. I cannot choose to jump into the air and not fall down again. I can choose whether or not to act immorally. This is why my opponent's point is irrelevant. We cannot act outside of what is known by God, I agree. That does not mean that we do not have free will. The man in the analogy chose every action that he did, regardless of the fact that it was foreknown what he would do. The fact that we know what happened throughout the course of history does not mean that Brutus did not choose to stab Caesar, or that Robespierre did not choose to make the streets of Paris run with blood during the Terror. Knowledge of what was chosen does not affect the choice itself. God may know how we will choose, but this does not mean that you are not responsible for the choices you make. God is not a second-party bystander, I agree. But God is not a bomb-maker, and people are not bombs. Even if God knows what they are going to do, they still choose to do it c. f. time traveler analogy. The bomb has no free will to decide whether to explode or not. This entire analogy assumes that the creation does not have free will; this is not always true. To use an analogy from the Bible, God is like a father. Fathers may do whatever is in their power to steer their children in the right direction, but the child ultimately has the choice of whether to become a brain surgeon or a drug dealer. In the same way God may put things in our lives that steer us towards our best interest (heaven), but still lets us choose the opposite, if we so decide (hell). P1: God knows all the "free choices" people will make. P2: God created Person A, knowing all the choices Person A will make. P3: Person A with "free choices" sins and goes to hell. P4: If P1 and P2 are true, God knowingly and willingly created Person A despite Person A's fate. :. Therefore Person A was predestined to go to hell. P1 and P2 are compatible with free will. God knowingly and willingly created Person A, knowing that Person A would choose to do those things that send him to hell. This actually works for my case. If God only created people who would go to heaven, there would not be free will. For there to be free will, both the action A (live so that you go to heaven) and action not A (live so that you go to hell) must be practical possibilities. Hell's existence proves free will. God is creator, but His creations are living, thinking, choosing beings. My argument does not fail because God gives us free will. This is entirely possible with God, as I have shown. C2: Omnipotence I was unclear last round. What I meant by saying "God can't do anything" is that " God cannot actually do anything, in the same sense that we do things. God's "actions" must also be existential truths. God is the basis of everything, and He cannot change. Everything moves in reference to God. My opponent didn't actually respond to the argument, that God used sociological change, "natural" processes to "send" the Assyrians against another nation. They could not have attacked each other, in the same way that Brutus could not have stabbed Caesar. C3: Bible I have not disregarded the verses that point to pre-destination. Every one of them is compatible with free will, given my arguments. My opponent is instead the one who chooses to ignore the overwhelming proof for free will due to ethical commands.