"Do or do not, there is no try"-Yoda

You: "You are essentially stating that it must be a full effort, since the definition is stating an effort."This is true. Think about it: if it is not a full effort, is it really an effort? When someone claims that they have made an effort, they are basically lying to themselves. What they have actually done is given up. It sounds better to say "I made the effort." But adeep analysis of the situation will show that the person gave up somewhere along the way. And if you give up, you cannot truthfully state that you made an effort.You: "Just because you make an effort does not necessarily mean that you give 100% effort."But it does necessarily mean just that. Anything less is not making a real effort. Sure, people constantly claim that they've made an effort with less than 100%. But did they REALLY make an effort? They didn't give it their all, and deep down they know that this means they didn't REALLYmake the effort.You ask how big an effort would be, what is an effort, and claim that it cannot be measured. You follow this up by stating "Everyone has a different perspective of what 'an effort' would be." People may view it differently, but through multiple perspectives we can arrive at the truth. Each time someone suggests something else that could've been done to make MORE of "an effort" that would move it closer to actually making an effort.To demonstrate this, we can use your garage example. You claim that you committed to cleaning it 100% and yet it is not spotless. Why isn't it spotless? What was left uncleaned? At some point, you said "Eh, it's clean enough" and then gave up. People may have different perspectives, but the fact that the garage is not fully cleaned shows that your perspective is clearly wrong. Your so-called effort could not have been 100% as you claim. If it was, the garage would be spotless. Those that view this effort to clean the garage as a full effort are simply wrong.As far as the number example, there is no such thing as a half of a number. A half of an effort, perhaps should be reworded as a half-hearted effort or a 50% effort. But I think my message was clear enough. If the effort is half-hearted, it is not truly an effort.When it comes to losing a debate, stating that both parties were committed 100%, you need to really think about this situation. The person that lost the debate had to have had a distorted view of what 100% means. In order to lose the debate, there had to be some argument that wasn't used, some research that wasn't done, or some wording that was not quite perfect. If someone loses a debate, there was a flaw somewhere. And consequently, there was a lack of effort somewhere along the way. With two people committing 100% in a debate: first off, it would never happen. But if it hypothetically did, there could first be a tie. Then another debate challenge to continue, again and again and again. Someone will eventually give less than 100% and eventually lose. The one truly committed 100% comes out on top.Moving on to the math test, you state: "You could know your math book inside and out, everything there is to know, and then realize that you studied for the wrong thing." This doesn't make any sense to me. If you know the math book inside and out, you clearly studied for EVERYTHING. How could this result in studying for the wrong thing? No matter what comes out on that math test, it must be included under the extremely broad umbrella of EVERYTHING. So, to steal one of your quotes that is ubiquitous throughout this debate, you have contradicted yourself.Going back to the existence of process and outcomes: In these terms, Yoda's quote would be reworded as "Achieve the outcome, or don't achieve the outcome. There is no try." Maybe the word "try" should be replaced by the word "process" in the rewording. But since you make it clear that you are not stating that trying is the process, only a piece to the process, I've decided to leave the word 'try."Regardless, the essence of the quote is easy to grasp. "Try" is the word people use after they have given up. They will say "I tried." But what should really be said is "I gave up." If the outcome was not reached, then you didn't REALLY try. Because of that, there really is no such thing as trying without doing. You wish to show that there is a process, and that trying is essential to the process. Furthermore, you claim that process is necessary for an outcome. What Yoda says is that you either achieve the outcome, or you don't. The process of achieving the outcome, or the "trying" that is part of the process, is not actually trying if that outcome is not reached.You claim that since there is a process leading to the outcome, this disproves the quote and I have contradicted myself. I don't believe this to be true, but I suppose that is for the voters to decide.On other definitions of try:You state: "...in Round 1 I clearly stated what the arguments were to be." QUOTE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM ROUND 1: "The resolution states, "Do or do not, there is no try", a famous quote from Yoda. I, con, will be arguing against this statement. I will be stating that there is such thing as trying." To me it seems pretty clear that you are arguing against the statement, and that I am arguing in favor of it. Because of this, I am not getting into other definitions of "try" when it is taken completely out of context. Voters may feel free to penalize me for not arguing against science experiments, trying a piece of cake, or that these are trying times that we live in. I believe that the quote was the essence of the argument, and it is that "try" that I am using.To master the force, you must "try."Luke, in Star Wars, DID master the force. It did require effort, as you rightly claim. And since Luke goes on to completely master the force, it is an example of an actual effort; not a half-hearted one.Mater the force, or don't master the force. There is no try. Yoda's words obviously stuck with Luke. And I stand firm in my belief that the quote is true.