Ron-Paul's Politics Tournament: Barack Obama

Refutation time: R1: Iraq Lol you say this is good, add leaving iraq then it's good? Sure it is, but he increased military spending: Obamas current cuts are temporary, they will lead to increases in spending by 36 billion by 2017. (1) Also in 2011 he increased military spending by 1%. (2) also if you look at the graph (see 3 source) in 2008-10 spending militarily continues to increase. (3) So he actually still participated in the war machine. He also attacked many countries: Bush bombed 2 countries, Obama 4. (4) "bama has now unilaterally attacked more countries than Bush, notably bombing inside Pakistan, Yemen and now Libya without Congressional approval" (5) So yes he left Iraq but messed up military. R2: Stimulus The stimulus was a failure, GDP grows slower than ever, and the housing market is in the slums. (6) Also the action would supposedly put unemoyment under 8% (7), did that work? No. Also I proved the unemployment is lowering because people are no longer looking for jobs. R3: Compromise Any president would compromise if they didn't want a lame duck. So really no shocked. Bush went liberal second term because of a democrat congress. Big deal he compromised woo hoo! Not really exciting. R4: START This treaty was actually not as major as the previous ones signed by George H W bush. (8) also in my opinion any president would do this as most of the modern presidents have had arms talks with Russia. This is the mode, nothing special pro. Also the new treaty may put the US in danger: It would lower US nukes but maybe not Russia's, it would put us at a 10-1 disadvantage. (9) The treaty would defiantly lower out defenses. (10) Also Russia cheats in most of the arms treaties we have had with them. (11) So really it hurts us. R5: Osama Dude any president would have done it, no difference. Not special. Also bush got much of the evidence needed to find Osama, he deserves a little credit. (12) R6: Gay rights I do not care about social policies next election, the economy is the problem. Also one upside=\= good. "An overflow of good converts to bad. "- William Shakespeare R7: Economy See my rebbuttal for stimulus and former arguments round. R8: ObamaCare See ObamaCare argument last round. R9: Wallstreet Much of obamas money comes from Wallstreet for his campaign. This source lists About 20. (13) fail. "Obama even tops Romney in total donations from Bain Capital: $76,600 compared with the $34,000 that went to Romney" (14). More Wallstreet money to Obama. " He's raised $15.6 million from finance folks" (14) He=Obama here. So he hurts Wallstreet yet obama gets his money from them? Fail. R10: College loans 1. Source? 2. He wants to do it, that =\= he did it. R11: Saved auto industry Temporarily. The new gas mileage regulations made by Obama are expected to kill 500,000 jobs in that industry. (15) so he did temporarily, you forget to mention this part. R12: Equal pay. They already got = pay. You must demonstrate that they got paid less then men before the act was passed to make a good argument. -conclusion- Nobama. Vote Con. Sources: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com... (1) http://www.wsws.org... (2) http://en.m.wikipedia.org... (3) http://www.usmessageboard.com... (4) http://www.activistpost.com... (5) http://www.forbes.com... (6) http://www.americanthinker.com... (7) http://en.m.wikipedia.org... (8) http://m.washingtontimes.com... (9) http://www.nationalreview.com.../ (10) http://republican.senate.gov... (11) http://abcnews.go.com... (12) http://www.opensecrets.org...(13) http://nymag.com... (14) http://finance.townhall.com... (15)