I'm Pro Gun: Change my Mind

On Background checks- unfourtanetly you do not know much about america. You can't simply "forge background checks". You do not provide information, it goes to the FBI and they review it and determine your legitamicecy to have a gun lol. People also are mentally ill , yet background checks need stricter screening for that. It is a very complicated issue with many variables, and was an idea that I threw out there. My main idea would to arm teachers with guns. Claim: Singapore has strict gun control or like no guns at all. And singapore is a city as well. Rebuttal: Bro, you are honestly going in circles. Singapore is a different place and culture. Stop talking about your tiny little country. I am talking about America. I can site multiple places in which gun control has failed, yet you can only talk about singapore. Claim: At least it wont be all of the guns. And eventually the black market will close. The black market does not close, nor will it any time soon. Claim: Look countries like singapore legalise knives which are sharp(not swiss army knives and stuff like that but they"re still sharp) and vehicles are legalised. Im typing this on a bus on the way to tuition just to confirm its legalised. And I dont hear of many accidents. Yes there have been quite a few cases but its not everytime. Whereas guns are the number one causes for murder crimes. You dont need much evidence for that do ya? I mean just turn on the news and if a new murder is being reported its always guns except for a few situations. Proof guns are usually the cause:http://www.politifact.com...... Rebuttal: Gun bans are not effective, proof that people will use other objects to kill. Claim: One can easily forge data on themselves,memorise it and present it to whoever is conducting the test. So how are background checks possible when you can forge things like passports? Rebuttal: You are not the one telling the FBI who you are. They find out who you are. it isn't that simple to forge, buddy. Claim: Elaborate what exactly you are wanting me to search for or search for it yourself because I have no idea what you are asking since we"ve leaglised guns for probrably the longest time ever. I want to know the effect it had on singapore. Ex) chart that shows the murder rate in singapore from before the gun ban and after the gun ban. From 1950-2016, for example. Claim: Prooved enough that with a gun ban the murder rate decreases. Doesnt have to be the U.S. but shows what will happen with a gun ban. If this gun ban goes global,trust me murder rates would decrease. Rebuttal: Um... site a source that shows murders decrease from gun bans. Um.. it doesn't show what happens with a gun an because we have already tried it many times- and it hasnt worked. Murder rates would not decrease. Take for example England, Australia, America, Ireland, Jamaica- they did not decrease. Claim: "Or the black market and they could also use literally other object." Wont be effective enough. Like how do you rob a bank with knives? I understand the black market can still use other tools but why do you think so many criminals use guns to murder instead of knives? Rebuttal: Gun bans do decrease murder bro. Claim: "gun bans do not statisticly reduce murders." I just showed you a link that a place with a gun ban had drastic drops in terms of murders. And it had a graph to show it. Show a link to me that gun bans dont statisticaly reduce murders. Rebuttal: Um.. it was from 1994-present. Gun laws were ennacted in 1973 in singapore. https://crimeresearch.org... https://www.dailywire.com... I never said concealed carry holders commit crimes. In fact, i said they commit crimes less than police officers. I guess police shouldn't have guns, either. "Why would you give the government your self-defense rights and firearms when they are the exact ones guns were designed to protect against?" You said you want to ban guns. That would mean giving them to the government. Answer my question. Claim: "There is no way to completely get rid of gun violence. "I"ll give you one:ban guns. It does not completely get rid of gun violence. It might get rid of most of it, but not overall murders. Claim: So what is the point of having background checks anyways? Rebuttal: So people can pass the test to have the right to protect themselves, and to screen for the mentally ill. Arming teachers would be smart. It be teachers that already conceal carry, who are 14% more law abiding than police.