These Arguments Against the God of Christianity Are Valid - 1D.

Delicious :). I thank my opponent for accepting this debate. I agree with my opponent's observations - I have a certain burden to uphold. =====Counterarguments===== 1. Argument from Evil 1A. Evil exists in the world >>>...God gave us free will to choose what path we want to take. Thus, we can choose the opposite of good.<<< ----> If that is so, then it is your burden to explain why God would prefer to let humans have free will RATHER than humans having free will with moral perfection, no free will so evil actions won't happen, etc. Secondly, you also have to explain the "natural evils". These come in forms of natural disasters, diseases, or anything that causes pain and suffering without human free will involved. >>>...evil doesn't exist in "form." Basically this means that evil is just the absence of good. When God created good, he created a default evil...If evil doesn't exist, then good wouldn't exist either.<<< ----> This is quite the peculiar claim. Is my opponent stating that HEAVEN can't exist? Isn't heaven a place devoid of evil? Of pain? Of suffering? By your logic, heaven would also be an imperfect place since evil is supposed to be paired with good. This is obviously NOT the case. >>>Abolishing evil creates automation people, with absolutely no will.<<< ----> As I've stated before, you have to uphold your burden of why God would desire humans to have free will (thus allowing evil in the world) instead of humans having free will with moral perfection, etc. Secondly, just because people don't have free will does NOT mean they will act like simplistic androids from Star Wars. No free will =/= no complex behaviors. >>>If God abolished evil, he would be acting evil towards evil, thus not acting loving.<<< ----> Again, another peculiar argument. By definition, abolish means to do away with[1]. Actions by themselves are never evil, it's the intent behind it. Would Harriet Tubman be doing evil for helping the slavery abolishment movement? Would a soldier in war be evil for killing a suicide bomber who was about to blow up in a crowd of innocent bystanders? It's obvious that God is NOT doing evil. 1B. Natural Evils I've mentioned this in my previous rebuttal in 1A. In response to this argument, just read my previous rebuttal in 1A. 2. Argument from Non-Belief >>>First, it assumes that God wants us to know his existence w/o a doubt.<<< ----> That is one of my premises. This can be broken down into two parts: First, it's known that God desires for man to be saved[2]. Two, I argue that this is highest desire, i.e. no other desire conflicts with this desire nor does it exceed it in priority. Unless you wish to refute the bible verse I cite, then it's your burden to show which desire he would have otherwise and why. >>>Second, even if you don't buy this, a Christian would argue that Jesus' coming was that sign for hunaity, but some do not believe it.<<< ----> And it's very well known that Jesus' coming is debatable and controversial. Unless, you attempt to say that there is sufficient enough evidence in the world for anyone to be rationally theistic. Meaning that ALL sincere atheists are actually lying - a mighty burden to carry. >>>And third, even if you dont buy that argument, cross apply one of my previous arguments that stated God forcing himself on us is not love, but rape.<<< ----> Again, refer to my previous statements. It's your burden to uphold the FWD (Free Will Defense). =====Conclusion===== Seeing as my opponent's rebuttals consist mainly of the FWD, I await to see an adequate response. ---References--- 1. http://www.answers.com... 2. http://www.biblegateway.com...