God is represented better in the Qu'ran than in the Bible

I thank my honorable opponent for allowing me to participate in this debate. It truly has been a memorable debate, one which I will cherish. My opponent has presented his final arguments, but as we shall see he has made some crucial errors. 1- MOSES CORRECTS GOD RELOADED My opponent has accused me of placing words into his mouth. He attempts to falsify my summary of his argument (from round 3) by quoting a statement that I was not summarizing. The statement is : "The Christian Bible tells a curious story of Moses (may peace and blessings be upon him) correcting his Maker" (this was from round 2) I in no way attempted to summarize this statement. I was not even referring to it. My summary was focused on this statement that he made last round (round 3) : "Is it acceptable to approach an all powerful supreme being and remind it of a promise it made? This action alone would eliminate the one who is being reminded of being worthy of worship because it has displayed that it is not omnipotent, as it claims." As evident , my opponent's above argument indeed amounts to ; "Moses displayed unacceptable conduct, as a result God is not omnipotent and thus not worthy of worship". I already discussed the issue of this argument and will leave this to the reader to decide on the fate of my arguments. My opponent proceeds to say : "My opponent tries to frame the actions of Moses as unacceptable." I, As a christian, do not believe the actions of Moses were unacceptable. I was summarizing my opponents evident displeasure with Moses' conduct as he says; "Is it acceptable...", hence he clearly does not favor Moses' actions, he clearly does not see them as acceptable (or else he would have not asked the rhetorical question). Thus, I used the word 'unacceptable' in my summary of my opponents arguments as that is the opposite of 'acceptable'. My opponent continues to say : "...but this is not the view that the God of the bible took because he corrected his behavior after being reminded of promises..." God did NOT 'correct' His behavior. This is just a desperate and unsupported claim made to discredit God in the bible. God RELENTED from passing His judgment, or in other words, showed MERCY. I am completely baffled as to how my opponent, with such a straight forward narrative, concludes that God was 'corrected' in the passage. The passage clearly shows that God simply accepted a prayer of repentance. How is this ,in any stretch of the imagination, being corrected? My opponents argument is simply illogical. My opponent also has a problem with the idea of Moses 'reminding' God of a promise. He incorrectly proceeds to form the false conclusion that God is not omniscient (all knowing) or omnipotent. My opponent's logic is once again flawed, as if he were to apply his logic to his religion, he would not pray to God. Why I say this is because God being all-knowing knows exactly what my opponent wants before he even begins to pray. As a result he would not pray because he would already conclude that God already knows what he wants. Yet, my opponent still prays 5 times a day! In the same way Moses , knowing very well that God has not forgotten, still proceeds to remind God in prayer of the promise that He made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Moses does this for the same reason that my opponent still prays : It is mere formality! The bible even teaches that God never forgets His promise that He made to the Patriarchs : "For the LORD tour God is a merciful God, He will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your fathers, which he confirmed to them by oath." (Deuteronomy 4:31) My opponent also says : "When my opponent quotes other verses from the Bible he only shows that his source hopelessly contradicts itself..." This is false! My biblical quotations only contradict my opponents dismally incorrect interpretations of the Deuteronomy passage, nothing more! They expose his false interpretation of the deuteronomy passage! 2- JUSTIFYING SLAUGHTER Despite my very simple and straight forward explanation of God's judgments, I have noticed that my opponent is still having problems with my explanation of the reasons for the slaughter of the Amalekites. For this reason I will present an in depth theological explanation of the actions of God as well as how and why He judges the way He does : What must first be established is that the God of the Bible is omniscient, which means he knows every action that has taken place and every action that will take place. One attribute of God's omniscience is the "Middle Knowledge" of God, which holds that God also knows all possible actions people would make in this world and any other world which God might have created. The "Middle Knowledge" perspective means that God knows three types of things in His omniscience : (1) All things that have actually been. (2) All things that will actually be. (3) All things that may have been in all possible worlds. Middle knowledge is the 3rd of these knowledge types. By this view, God knows before each individual was born, whether and under what circumstances that person would ultimately respond to His plan of salvation. Moreover God's knowledge is not dependent on age. God knows each of us in our mother's womb (Psalm 139:13, Isaiah 44:2). He does NOT need to wait for any individual to become old and die of old age to know whether that person will receive God's grace to cleanse their sins. God knows even before they are conceived what type of person the as-yet-unborn person will be and what they would ultimately do. Thus, God can cast judgment down on an infant just as easily as an on old man, since God knows infinitely and perfectly exactly what each of those people have done and will do in the course of their existences. As a result, God pronounced the whole Amalekite nation as wicked through His infinite omniscience which includes Middle knowledge. God knew that these people would never turn from their evil ways. God knew very well that allowing some of the Amalekites to live would only result in them committing the same unrepented sins as well as attempt (once again) to inflict genocide upon the Israelites. Saul did what my opponent wanted God to do, which was to spare some of the 'innocent' Amalekites (women and children). God knew better. He knew through His infinite Middle Knowledge that these people weren't 'so innocent'. The ramifications of Saul's act proved God's judgment on the Amalekites as just, as the offspring of these spared Amalekites committed the same sins as their ancestors and ,once again, tried to exterminated the Israelites (Esther 3:7-15). As evident, God through His omniscience knew very well that this would happen if any Amalekites were spared. Hence God justly imposed the death sentence on all the Amalekites to prevent this and also so that the covenant made with the Patriarchs could be fulfilled! For more info ----ï¿½ http://www.christiancadre.org... 3- GOD IN THE BIBLE AND QUR'AN My opponent attempts to accuse the biblical God of being a bloodthirsty tyrant. However ,as seen, I proved that His actions were justified and also that He hated casting such judgments upon His creation (Jeremiah 4:1-2). However God in the Qur'an never shows any justification for ordering the slaughter and persecution of non-muslims. He orders muslims to mercilessly slay all infidels. He even brags about misleading people so that He can torture them in hell for sport : "Do not bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it IMPOSSIBLE for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die." (Surah 2:6-7) "And SLAY them wherever you may find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is WORSE than slaughter..." (Surah 2:191) Persecution is worse than slaughter????? "And fight then until persecution I'd no more and religion is for Allah" (Surah 2:193) # We see God in the Qur'an teaches that warfare is prescribed for all Muslims. He also teaches that it is good for them : "Warfare is ORDAINED for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is GOOD FOR YOU... Allah knoweth, ye know not" (Surah 2:216) # Initiating attacks is allowed by God in the Qur'an : In fact there unconditional commands to fight all unbelievers everywhere and at any time : "But when the forbidden months are past then FIGHT and SLAY the pagans wherever ye may find them and seize them, beleager them and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Surah 9:5) # God in the Qur'an gives muslims permission to attack jews and christians (people of the book) without giving them any time to repent! : "FIGHT those who disbelieve not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth [even if they are] of the people of the book until they pay Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued." (Surah 9:29) # God in the Qur'an orders the general duty of jihad to all muslims : "Then FIGHT in the cause of Allah and know that Allah heareth and knoweth all things" (Surah 2:244) "Those who believe FIGHT in the cause of Allah and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil : so FIGHT ye against the friends of satan..." (Surah 4:76) # God in the Qur'an orders muslims to strike terror in the hearts of the infidels : "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority : their abode will be fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers !" (Surah 3:151) "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know." (Surah 8:60) Sheikh Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Hamid had this to say on violence in the Qur'an : "So at first 'the fighting' was forbidden, then it was permitted and after made OBLIGATORY : (1) Against those who star 'the fighting' against you (muslims) (2) And against ALL those who worship others along with Allah." # God in the Qur'an is also a deceiver : I would not trust a God like this! "But they (the jews) were deceptive , and Allah was DECEIVER, for Allah is THE BEST of deceivers" (Surah 3:54) "Are they then secure from Allah's DECEPTION? None of them deemeth himself secure from Allah's scheme..." (Surah 7:99) # God in the Qur'an purposely (for no good reason) leads people astray! : "So Allah leads astray WHOM HE PLEASES and guides whom He pleases" (Surah 14:4) God in the Qur'an calls muslims to kill these people who do not believe in Him, yet it was Him who lead them astray! Seem like God in the Qur'an is just killing for sport! HOW IS GOD PRESENTED IN THE BIBLE ? I already proved that God in the Bible is merciful as well as just. He hates casting judgments and only casts judgments when the people have reached the point of no return. He pleads for centuries with His people to turn back to Him, so that He does not have to judge them. Besides this, God is presented as other things in the Bible : # God is love, nowhere in the entire Qur'an is God ever called love : "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love" (1 John 4:8) # God is merciful : I have already shown that God showed mercy on the Israelites by hearing Moses' prayer of repentance. Here are other verses : "For the LORD your God is a merciful God, He will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your fathers, when He confirmed th them by oath." (Deuteronomy 4:31) "Be merciful just as your Father (God) is merciful." (Luke 6:36) # God in the Qur'an teaches hatred for enemies (Surah 8:60), while God in the bible teaches love for enemies : "You have heard that it was said; 'love your neighbor and hate your enemy', but I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." (Matthew 5:43-45) # God in the Qur'an loves muslims and hates unbelievers (Surah 4:89). God in the bible loves the WHOLE world and not just jews and Christians : "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16) # God wished that the unbelievers return to Him so that he does not have to judge them : "Therefore, O house of Israel, I will judge you, each one according to his ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and an new spirit. Why die, O house of Israel? For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!" (Ezekiel 18:30-32) # God in the Bible is a father to His creation : "One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." (Ephesians 4:6) As seen, all I had to do was prove that God in the Bible is represented equally or better than in the Qur'an to disprove my opponents positions. I have proven that God is represented incomparably better in the Bible as a merciful, just and loving Father who seeks the salvation of His creation. PLEASE VOTE CON! PLEASE VOT CON! PLEASE VOTE CON! References : *http://www.studytoanswer.net... *http://www.formermuslims.com... *http://www.jmm.aaa.net.au... *http://www.unveilingislam.org... *http://www. faithfreedom.org/Quran.htm