In general, Sonic Customers should not feel obligated to tip Sonic servers

-- My Case --I. Social NormThe old adage, "bad things were normal x years ago so normal things now are bad" is trite and overused. It says nothing about the current social norm. It is seen as polite in Western society to tip, tipping is not inherently bad, it shows good manners and appreciation for good service. If there is a SINGULAR case where bad service is given, sure don't tip but if there was adequate service provided you should tip. That's the norm, it's born out of manners. I would like to point out that one video is not necessarily an accurate depiction of all Sonic workers. Also, I said if utilized properly you can be waited on. You can request refills, request your trash to be taken from your car etc. It's not a sit down restaurant, no but you can still get the functions of a wait staff. II. Minimum WageI stand corrected about the law. I did not misinterpret it on purpose. However, Sonic servers are still considered to be tipped workers. While they are not ENTITLED to additional pay, they fall under the category where they are expecting a tip. While no one is FORCED to tip at all, it is socially acceptable to do so and their base pay is designed to expect it. Also, I would like to point out that my wording "robbing" was used as descriptive language, clearly no one is committing a crime by not tipping. III. Some Tips > No TipsI want to clarify again that I am not advocating for bulky 20% tips. I am saying that some tip, due to the slightly enhanced workload and type of dining compared to fast food and the social norms, is better than not tipping at all. Is it so hard to give the server a buck or two? Is it worth not tipping a tipped salary worker and violating the social norm for a dollar? -- Pro's Case --1. WorkI fear PRO has straw manned my argument. If you look at my source from the previous round it clearly reads:"A Sonic carhop is also expected to perform additional duties including preparing drinks and ice cream and taking guests orders when necessary. Making accurate change and clearing trays from customers' cars and the patios are other duties." [1]It clearly states that they prepare drinks, ice cream and they do clean trash from people's cars and the outdoor area just as I stated. My argument stands, just because there are multiple roles at Sonic does not mean that my representation of the position was incorrect, in fact it was completely correct.Also, there is a difference between McDonald's and Sonic. McDonald's is a fast food restaurant when Sonic is considered a drive-in meaning they are expected to perform different duties. Servers at drive-ins fall under the tipping category because they do bring you your food and remove your trash etc. I never said that Sonic workers do the SAME work as Applebees, I said similar and greater than that of McDonald's. 2. BenefitsMy point with the benefits is that just because Sonic workers receive benefits does not mean they shouldn't be tipped. Nearly every job in America includes benefits but that does not include or exclude facets of their work. Again, I am not saying Sonic workers are EQUAL to Olive Garden staff but that they still deserve tips. Where is the cut off for tips then? Should Olive Garden workers receive tips because they have benefits? 3. Unethical BehaviorYour argument is still invalid. If Sonic workers are expecting tips (due to their salary status) and you don't tip, how is that solving the problem? It doesn't. What you're advocating for is that Sonic workers should not expect tips, which is a different debate. They do expect tips in advance so tipping or not tipping has no bearing on this type of behavior. They'll just judge you as a poor tipper as well. You see, this behavior is hingent on their expectations and you can't change those by not tipping. [1] http://www.ehow.com...