John McCain will make a better president than Barack Obama

New Points: 1.My opponent dropped the argument about $4,000 for college being helpful. We are in FULL AGREEMENT. 2.He agrees that the Bush Tax Cuts are hurtful. 3.Obama will create more jobs for the environment. 4.Obama will send drug users to rehab for part of their prison sentence, which will reduce the amount of drug users. 5.Obama will give the middle class tax cuts. 6.Obama will give all workers 7 sick days a year. 7.Obama will cut income taxes 100% for seniors who make under $50,000. 8.Obama will help fight age, sex, and race discrimination in corporate America. 9.Obama will not be influenced by lobbyists. 10.He will be bipartisan, honest. >>> 'PAYGO wont work.' 'He'll just raise taxes.' +++ PAYGO is a great system and not using PAYGO hurts the dollar. The way that the war is funded is from borrowed money. Borrowing money lowers the value of the dollar. A lower valued dollar makes buying things internationally more expensive, like oil. In 2000, the dollar was 1 Euro. Now, the dollar is $1.60 that of the Euro (even with Bush's experience). This makes oil more expensive for us and when oil is more expensive, gas is more expensive, which hurts the economy tremendously. (http://www.politico.com...) >>> 'Experience important' 'Obama lost popular vote' 'Minimal participation in caucases' +++ Experience is not as important as you're making it. Bush has tremendous experience and neither of us support him. He has 33% approval. +++ Obama won the popular vote. That calculation is a lie. That count doesn't count caucases correctly and skips the whole state of Michigan. +++ Many of the caucases had record turnout. >>> '13 yrs of military experience.' 'Survived due to patriotism' +++ Most of his experience was during prison, which is why he's one of the few people who supported Vietnam War after war. +++ Why would they care how patriotic he was? >>> 'Bitter comment proves Obama is out of touch' +++ Obama was once poor and middle class unlike McCain who is and always was rich. Obama also will give tax cuts to the middle class while McCain will give them to the rich. >>> 'The experience should be in the right places.' +++ Obama was a lawyer, editor, senator, legislator, community organizer. McCain was a marine and a senator. Obama was in all economic classes. McCain was always rich. >>> 'I said McCain's military experience – not the war in Iraq' +++ You said his military experience will help him with the war. And I proved you wrong. >>> 'Leadership.' +++ Obama was the head editor or the law paper at Harvard. >>> 'Legislative' +++ I strongly debated the point. I did not drop it. Stop lying! B) Judgment >>> 'Rev. Wright' +++ This gotcha does not prove anything about Obama's judgment. Nobody leaves a church because they disagree with the pastor on small issues. >>> '3am ad' +++ You said it was a non sequitor. And didn't explain the whole ad. I didn't say the 3am ad justified his whole experience. This was your point! >>> 'Lack of voting' +++ In Chicago politics, abstaining from a vote is responsible. Everybody does it. You know it. The same article also says it was "part of a larger party or issue bloc strategy." ...more lies from you pro... >>> 'Iraq stabilizing' '4000 lives in vain' 'Democracy' 'Security of Petroleum' +++ NPR (one of your sources) says the Iraq War is destabilzing the region and strengthening Iran and Al Qaida (www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9914868) +++ More Americans will die if we do not pull out of Iraq. +++ Obama will talk to leaders about democracy instead of shooting their people, which will obviously not bring democracy. +++ My first point shows how the Iraq War hurts oil prices. And damagging ties with OPEC countries, through this war, is obviously not good. >>> This is the most obvious lie you've told yet. PRO said that Obama never opposed the war. I said "Obama did oppose the war! This is a lie! (http://en.wikisource.org......'s_Iraq_Speech)." Obviously, I was referring to his lie about Obama's supporting the war. I wasn't saying what I just said was a lie. My opponent is so desperate, he has resorted to blatant dishonesty to win. >>> 'Pulling out will destabalize the Middle East.' 'Iran will invade Iraq.' +++ Obama will talk with Syria and Iran and make sure they do not go in Iraq. He will use sanction threats, military threats, etc, hard power if necessary. >>> 'Large violence in Iraq' +++ This large violence is because America is killing people over there. We've killed 104,000+. >>> 'Bad war' +++ No. That's really stupid. >>> 'You cannot amend NAFTA' +++ Obama will not stop free trade. He will change little aspects to more benefit Americans, unlike McCain. >>> (ii) +++ No. Still irrelevant. >>> 'PAYGO untenable' +++ No. It is necessary. PAYGO worked from 1990 to 1998 until Clinton got a surplus and Congress started cheating. Then Bush (with his experience) got rid of PAYGO in 2001 for his tax cuts and other acts. >>> '9/11 brought a recession' +++ How would 9/11 have possibly created a recession? Accounting scandals, the burst of the dot com bubble, and Bush's reactions to 9/11 caused the recession. Even with his experience. >>> 'Already competitive bidding' +++ Obama will force all contracts to be bidded so we can get the best price and not run into another Enron scandal. >>> 'Kuschrev bullied JFK' +++ This is completely unsupported but the fact is there was no nuclear explosion on America because of Kennedy's willingness to negotiate. >>> 'Bush never talked to N. Korea' +++ Lies! He did talk to North Korea! (http://www.foxnews.com...) >>> 'Negotiating with Al Qaida will legitimize them' +++ They are already legitimate. The PATRIOT Act, which undermines trhe constitution in fear of Al Qaida is worse than negotiating face to face. They want us to be terrified and talking to them is what will make us not loose. Not letting them do as they please. >>> (Other points:ii) +++ Who is "he?" >>> 'Hitler invaded Poland after negotiations' +++ Negotiating with Hitler didn't cause him to invade Poland. Those talks probably prolonged the invasion. You did drop the point last round: FULL AGREEMENT. The cold shoulder never worked. >>> 'Bush tax cuts' +++ These were in place during his two recessions. Obama will give the money to the middle class who needs it. >>> McCain will not force children to have care, will not force high risk patients on companies, and will not simplify info. Obama's plan still allows you to choose and does all these other nice things. McCain just gives you a mild tax credit. >>> (iii) +++ What? What filibuster? How do you know they wont get 66%? >>> 'Abortion' +++ It's a woman's choice. A neglected child is bad for themselves, the parents, and society. >>> 'Medical infrastructure' 'National debt' +++ McCain will give tax breaks to all Americans. Both plans will give all Americans the option of health care. McCain just lets children die, etc. >>> 'PAYGO fails' +++ The GOP killed PAYGO out of irresponsibility. But it lasted well for 8 years and didn't get revoked for 11 years. >>> 'Iraq War' +++ The increases gas prices, weakens relationships, costs tremendously, and kills people. Stabilizing the region can be achieved through talks and help, not destroying the place. >>> 'Bush Tax Cuts' +++ We're not going in the same order because I have more points than you. Can you please show me where you mentioned Bush Tax Cuts in that round? Exactly! >>> 'Public diplomacy' +++ Talking to other people. >>> 'NCLB works' +++ Prove it! >>> 'Zoning overcrowds schools' +++ I go to a school that was overcrowded due to NCLB. We cant build a new school at every block. We have to divide it reasonably. Not send all the low performing students to a good school and keep the other lower performing students at the bad school. Please vote for the honest debater with the better arguments