Islam is an evil religion

~My opponent is trying to discredit them by making them morally neutral, which they are not.~ Okay, they are moral. It doesn't prove anything, for or against. ~I have a very simple question. "If the Old Testament was instantly thrown aside (the whole thing) when Jesus came around, the WHY IS IT STILL PART OF THE BIBLE?"~ Although it's a part of the Bible, we don't have the rules set in the OT. They are for Jews, not Christians. Jesus said that it is not our actions that matter but our faith. And by the way, this is still off-topic. ~Basically, what my opponent is trying to say is: "oh, you can't look to parts of the bible that could hurt my position because Jesus fixed all that" " of course you can still look to the rest of the old testament, as well as the laws in Leviticus that we DO use, just not anything that helps you're position"~ Tell me how many Christians have stoned their children because they are disobedient (for the reason that the OT says so, not just for fun)? None? 0,00000000000000000000001%? As I said, the laws in the OT are for Jews. And by the way, this is STILL off-topic. ~In order to debate about Islam, we MUST look to Muslims. As with Christianity, there are laws that we do not follow written in our religious texts. We do not judge Christianity on the arguments I posted previously, because we no longer follow those laws. (We looked to modern Christians to see this.) In order to know what the actual laws of a religion are, the only way is to look at the followers. (In this case, Muslims)~ No, we are debating about the RELIGION, not the followers of the religion. If the topic would be "Muslims are evil" (which they are not), then we would debate about Muslims. Voters, please note when my opponent goes ott-topic and remember it when you vote. Let my make myself clear: Muslims are off-topic, Christians are off-topic, the Bible is off-topic, the Jews are off-topic. We are debating about the RELIGION of Islam. We aren't debating about how many Muslims follow the laws, but whether or not there are evil laws established in the Qu'ran. ~First, I would like to point out that Muhammad is and has been very dead for some time now... The people upholding Shari'ah law are not divine or even godly. THEY ARE HUMAN, and therefore open to mis-understandings.~ Okay. Some people opened the Qu'ran and looked at what Muhammad said. If he said "An adulterer shall be stoned", then that is the law. The Shari'ah is based on the Qu'ran&Sunnah. Period. Nothing else. ~First of all, technically, b/c there are parts from the OT, it is also thousands of years old.... But, it was also written by different people, and therefore has many different interpretations of what god wants.~ No, the writers of the Qu'ran copied some parts from the NT and OT and invented the rest. ~This is Empirically Untrue. Every religion has its extremist's but if you look to a majority of Muslims, you will see that many of these laws are becoming or are obsolete.~ Live in Saudi-Arabia for a year and you will understand what I'm trying to say. ~Look to the crusades, Christians justified these with the bible, and yet, they were later looked at as wrong.~ I'm sure it was really easy to justify just by looking at OT. The NT says the exact opposite. This, too, is off-topic. ~Finally, Muslim outrage has nothing to do with anything, Even if all the followers were hypocritical, this would have no impact on the debate.~ You see, you yourself admit that the actions of Muslims have nothing to do with this debate. So, as you said yourself, we're going to debate about Islam, not how the laws are being applied. Case closed. ~Look to all of the anti-african American sentiment and mistreatment in the US's past. MANY very religious Christians believed that this was an acceptable thing to do, and was even good.~ Am I the only one who notices this is off-topic? And still, it doesn't matter what the followers do. It matters what the religion says. And now... Here are some verses from the Qu'ran (excluding the ones about women and stuff like that). 2:190-193 "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you ... And slay them wherever ye catch them ... And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in God ..." 2:216 "Fighting is prescribed for you and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth and ye know not." 2:224 "Then fight in the cause of God and know that God heareth and knoweth all things." 3:157-158 "And if ye are slain or die in the way of God, forgiveness and mercy from God are far better than all they could amass. And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! It is unto God that ye are brought together." 3:169 "Think not of those who are slain in God's way as dead. Nay, they live finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord." 3:195 "... Those who have ... fought or been slain, verily I will blot out from them their iniquities and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath; a reward from the presence of God ..." 4:101 "... For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies." 4:74, 75 "Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of God whether he is slain or gets victory, soon shall we give him a reward of great (value). Those who believe fight in the cause of God and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil, so fight ye against the friends of Satan, feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan." 4:89 "They but wish that ye should reject faith as they do, and thus be on the same footing as they. But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of God. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them…" 4:95 "Not equal are those believers who sit at (at home) and receive no hurt and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home). 5:36 "The punishment of those who wage war against God and His apostle and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land. That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter." 5:54 "O ye who believe. Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust." 8:12-17 "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. This because they contend against God and his apostle. If any contend against God and his apostle, God is strict in punishment ... O ye who believe. When ye meet the unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day, unless it be a stratagem of war ... he draws on himself the wrath of God and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge (indeed)." 8:59-60 "Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly). They will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of God and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know ..." 9:5 "...fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem..."