A Christian cannot lose salvation

Predestination - To tell the truth I don't exactly know what predestined means. I have looked into Calvinism, Arminianism, And Molinism. It's very hard to understand because it seems like the Bible could support all three of these views. Either way though. Whether God predestined by electing himself. Whether God predestined because he foreknew our faith, Or somehow both at the same time. I don't see any possible flaws in the doctrine called "perseverance of the saints. " As for free will. That is another subject that is hard to understand. Calvinism seems to be more on the side of Gods sovereignty. Arminianism seems to be more free will, And Molinism kind of fuses both together in a way that they both could be true and work. The way that I see it though is, I don't find the subject of "how God saves" as important as "what you need to do to receive salvation. " As long as you agree with the essentials of Christianity. The other subjects are more up for a friendly debate, Or talk. You have an interesting point of view on the Bible it seems. Unlike Calvinism, Arminianism, And Molinism. You sort everyone out into different categories of people, And seem to suggest that God saves people through Jesus in different ways. In other words saying "God doesn't save every Christian in the same way. " That is an interesting concept to look into, And I will do that eventually when I can get around to it. Ephesians - As for Category F where you said "Notice the Ephesians are Gentiles not Jews. These actually do "gain" salvation. " I have a couple questions. Since I am not a Jew that would make me a Gentile right? Well "even if" the Gentiles were not predestined doesent this part in Ephesians 1:13-14 apply to Gentiles now still? "When you believed, You were marked in him with a seal, The promised Holy Spirit, Who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession" Doesn't this mean you can't lose salvation? If this doesn't apply to us today. Well, I want to know your opinion on this. Onetime someone told my grandma she is going to hell, So she got worried that night. So she asked God herself if she is going to hell, Then all of a sudden Ephesians 1:13-14 popped into her head. She said that she didn't know the verse, And so she looked into her Bible and there it was. Old Testament Sources - I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, And you will keep My judgments and do them. Ezekiel 36:26-27 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, That I will not turn away from doing them good; but I will put My fear in their hearts so that they will not depart from Me. Jeremiah 32:40 My understanding of the old testament is that the entire thing is pointing towards Jesus, And the new covenant God is going to make with his people. It doesn't make sense to me that it would only be talking about Jews here. Especially when the Bible teaches things like this. For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame. " For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, For the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. Romans 10:11-12 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, But a new creation. And as many as walk according to this rule, Peace and mercy be upon them, And upon the Israel of God. Galatians 6:15-16 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, Nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, In the Spirit, Not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God. Romans 2:28-29 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, Romans 9:6 Whoever believes in Jesus is true Israel. Meaning it is not talking about Jews. It's talking about Christians. Salvation is an irrevocable gift, But when is it given - Being born again is when you enter into the new covenant with God, Where God Holy Spirit comes to live inside you, And God begins to change your heart and desires. Like the old testament verse said in Ezekiel 36:26-27. After John 3:3 Jesus also says. Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, Unless one is born of water and "the Spirit, " he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, And that which is born of the "Spirit is spirit. " John 3:5-6 Water is referring to the flesh birth, And Spirit is referring to being born again by Gods Holy Spirit. The reason Jesus is saying we need to be born again to see the kingdom of God is because of this. And you He made alive, Who were dead in trespasses and sins, Ephesians 2:1 When we are born we are spiritually dead. So we need a spiritual rebirth, Because we cannot enter heaven while dead in our trespasses and sins. John 3:3 doesn't disprove that salvation happens at the moment of being born again. It might not say it, But it doesn't disprove it either. If what I said about the new covenant verses to be true then salvation does happen when born again. These verses seems to suggest that once we are born again, We are children of God. Are the children of God saved? Because the Bible doesn't teach everyone is a child of God. Only those who are born again are children of God. But as many as received Him, To them He gave the right to become children of God, To those who believe in His name: who were born, Not of blood, Nor of the will of the flesh, Nor of the will of man, But of God John 1:12-13 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, Fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, And were by nature children of wrath, Just as the others. But God, Who is rich in mercy, Because of His great love with which He loved us, Even when we were dead in trespasses, Made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), Ephesians 2:3-5 Faith and works - Sorry about that. I guess I miss understood you. Many who believe you can lose salvation think you must keep the laws, Or do some sort of works to maintain salvation. So I thought that is where you was going. I still think God Spirit is what keeps us enduring to the end. Not only because of the old testament where it talks about the new covenant, But also a couple of other verses. And I am sure of this, That "he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion" at the day of Jesus Christ. Philippians 1:6 so that you are not lacking in any gift, As you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, "who will sustain you to the end, " guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful, By whom you were called into the fellowship of his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Corinthians 1:7-9 My rebuttal of 2 Timothy 4:8 - It doesn't say "My salvation is in store for me. " It says "there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness" 1 Corinthians 10 - To me it sounds like 1 Corinthians 10:1-13 is talking more to believers. The reason I think this is because of 10:13. We only have power over sin in Christ. So the fact they have a way of escape causes me to think they are possibly saved. I could be wrong though. Even if a Christian is saved they can still backslide. Even if one is a new creation they are still in sanctification. They are not perfect, And they need guidance. Which is what the Bible is as well. A guidance book. As for 1 Corinthians 10:12 it doesn't really say you would lose salvation. It's just says don't fall. Is that talking about salvation, Or backsliding and not being able to be used by God? Because it is possible to fall as a Christian, But not fall as in lose salvation but, Fall as in backslide and slow down your sanctification process. Remember it was also Paul who wrote these. being confident of this very thing, That He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; Philippians 1:6 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, Nor angels nor principalities nor powers, Nor things present nor things to come, Nor height nor depth, Nor any other created thing, Shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:37-39 Falling away will happen to some true Christians - I don't interpret "turning from the real faith" means they lost salvation, Because my understanding is they were never actually saved. Never actually born again, Or had saving faith. I don't doubt they had faith, But it wasn't the type of faith that saves. Like I said saving faith involves repentence. If you are not willing to repent you don't have the right kind of faith. You will either fall away showing you were never a true Christian, Or you will be sorted out on judgement day by God. Notice that these people turned away from the faith and then "will betray one another, And will hate one another. " It doesn't sound like they are born again to me. It doesn't sound like they had the love of Jesus Christ in them. Last argument - Instead of making another argument I want to talk about something I think is way more important. I know I am debating you right now, But my intentions were never to argue. I just was genuinely curious to what some other Christians thought. I see Christians all the time fighting over subjects like this, And I think it's ridiculous. We are called to be at peace with all people. Not only that we are weakening the Church. We are the body of Christ and we need to act like it. We need to love and respect each other regardless of our different interpretations. Now I understand we need to be in agreement on essentials, But as for a subject like this, We all don't need to cause division. We have had enough church splits. Thank you for talking with me.