Gay marriage

"Okay, I will admit that I misunderstood, but the fact remains that the court case Loving vs. Virginia speaks about the civil rights of interracial couples(of opposite sex) getting married but not the rights of homosexual marriages." The significance of Loving v. Virginia was the labeling of marriage as a basic civil right. Plain and simple. Marriage = basic civil right. "I will explain why it is in fact that it is a civil right to be married if your a interracial couple(of opposite sex) to get married but not a homosexual couple. The definition of marriage is the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc." Since when are rights and arguments about rights going to be restricted by what the dictionary says? I don't care what the definition of marriage is. Mankind created the word and the definition, and mankind can (and should) change the definition to provide equal rights, to uphold the Constitution. "No, there is no constitutional right for the legalization of gay marriage." There is a constitutional right for all citizens to be treated equally. Treated equally means that they all have the right to marry, barring their being a criminal or something like the absurd scenarios you provided in Round 2. "Everybody in this nation is treated equally, yes even gays." No. Not under the Fourteenth Amendment. "Nobody forced those people to be gay it was a choice that they made. Now blacks on the other hand didn't have a choice, they were forced into this world being black so therefore must be protected by the law." If you want to argue that it's a choice, provide some evidence–but even then, it's irrelevant. "Everybody has the right to be married with one man and one woman since that is indeed the definition of the word itself." The definition doesn't matter. Under current practices, the rights of law-abiding citizens who want to enter into a homosexual marriage are not being upheld, because they don't have the right to marry, which is a basic civil right, because of Loving v. Virginia. This is very straightforward. "You see gays do legally have to right to be bonded together in unity already there is a just a wording difference. They just can't get married with same sex couple as opposite sex couples don't get civil unions." This is completely irrelevant. We are discussing whether or not the right to homosexual marriage is protected by the Constitution. Under the Fourteenth Amendment, it is. "One can just as easily argue that homosexuality is immoral therefore should be illegal." I don't agree, but this is all irrelevant to the debate, so let's just drop that here. If you want to debate that separately, I'd be willing to challenge you. "Yes, today if you are a pedophile it is a crime to have sex with a minor or touch a minor inappropriately." You're misunderstanding Lawrence v. Texas. Here's a line about the case: "Lawrence has the effect of invalidating similar laws throughout the United States that purport to criminalize sodomy between consenting same-sex adults acting in private." [1] Notice the word "consenting." Under your argument, that all sexual acts in the privacy of one's home are legal, rape is legal–as long as it's inside a home. Since minors can't give consent, a pedophile's criminal act won't ever be consensual and therefore not protected. "No, that is not true there are many cases of children consenting with having sex with adults. Why wouldn't there be cases of child marriage consentors? Want some examples of child consent? MANBLA(Man boy love association) Also Nambla(North American man boy love association)" They can't legally give consent. Period. "So your saying that these marriages shouldn't be legal due to health risks?" Sorry if I have to spell it out. Health risks from incestuous relationships = mental retardation and birth defects. Yeah, that's a good reason not to allow marriages. "I would like to point out that the Constitution does not protect homosexual marriage for simple reason of the definition of marriage is the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc." Refuted above. Marriage, a basic civil right of man as outlined in Loving v. Virginia, is protected by the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Vote PRO. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org...