A secular debate about gay marriage

I see i need to clarify some of my points as they were slightly misinterpreted.1). Gay Marriage will abolish many loop holes for relationship exploitation What i was saying that by these gay couples getting married, the partner is more legally bound than before. Meaning that many loopholes regarding civil unions and custody of children would not exist. I don't know how your rebuttal was relevant to my statement, but cllearly my point was relevant to what i said. As for you point about the two adults not getting married technically that's not illegal (as far as i know) and that IS irellavent. To sum up i was meaning the couples on civil unions have less responsibility and accountablility to the partner than marriage would.2) Gay Marriage has the potential to create less discrimination in the public... Gay Marriage will create more opportunities for social progressionLegalizing different things is, again, irellevant. Gay marriage is not a "bad" thing and can potentially benefit society, as i have said previously. also in regard of " Making something legal in order to gain acceptance for those who do illegal and mostly frowned-upon things is very backwards and non-progressive.", that point is wrong becasue it is not in order to gain acceptance, but to progress in fairness and human equality which we are holding back. Not to mention that it is non-progressive to not let same sex marriage as there is NO PROGRESSION in that action. The progression of society is based on our actions and what we actually do, not what we don't do. I will now rebut your points._____1. I am not sure if the statistic which you have shown is about the politicicians or the people. If it's the politicians then they do not speak for the populations opinion. If it's the population you have gone into the specific of America. As i am Australian i am not 100% familiar with the American legal system but in Australia Canberra has legalized marriage, but since it is just one state (well territory in this case) then it is not recognized in the whole nation until the whole nation does legalize it. New Zealand [1] has legalized gay marriage and has been ultimately successful among the public. I am not just talking about America legalizing it, but the world becoming more accepting of this. Also since you have referenced politics in that point, i would like to say that it is the politicains present opinion and not what is "right" or wrong, opinions change, as they should. I would also like to point out that the source you showed, said that many of the people who voted against gay marriage, were religious, meaning some religious bias/reason behind it may be present. 2. I see no proof in your statement of that, as gay marriage may have been "taboo" 50 years ago, gay couples were still present. Beastiality and pedophilia are not the kind of things a progressing society would agree on. The minority of this being gay couples, wanting the same right to marry as other couples. They have been more accepted into society so why not accept them fully? What makes one wrong and the other ok is the fact of knowledgeable consent. A minor does not know the decsion he/she is making fully as they are not up to a full maturity level, that is why they are not a legal adult. The same goes with dogs. They do not have a choice in the matter, so that's what makes them different. Also as this is your opinion and you have no evidence of such claims except the "50 years ago it was taboo" fact is therefore invalid. ________I will now state some further points.1. Limiting the rights of others.Essentialy, not legalizng same sex marriage is limiting the rights of certain people. This is discrimination and a working society has not room for it. Just like other events in history of progression, gay marriage is the next step towards social equality and the acceptance of others. Why limit someones right to get married because of their own biology and what they want as a person. That's a bit cruel if you ask me. Who are we to dictate other's beliefs and limit them ourselves. To be honest i don't think gay marriage should have been an issue anyway.2. It will not changeThe legalization of gay marriage will not change any other heterosexual relationship or any other form of marriage. (i am mainly listing this because this is a reason many people contend it) Heterosexual marriage will still exist and legalizing gay marriage wont "encourage people to be gay" it will encourage people to be themselves. To be happy with who they are and to stop worrying whether they will be judged on whoo they are as a person. Being homosexual is not a choice. It is like saying being heterosexual is a choice. Homosexuals won't cease to exist, and neither will heterosexuals, why can't we just accept it?[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...Last round :)