Gay Marriage should be Illegal (2)

ResolutionGay Marriage should be IllegalBurden of ProofPro will affirm the resolutionCon will oppose the resolutionDebate details4 Rounds8,000 Character limit72 Hours to respond1 Month voting periodNO VIDEO LINKSPROBLEMS ?If you have any problem with the debate please post in the comments section first so we can try to come to an agreement before starting.Round 4Round 4 is the last round, no new arguments are to be made in round 4. Only rebuttals, counter arguments of the previous arguments, and summaries.Definitions:Gay = "Gay is a word that commonly refers to a male or female whose sexual orientation is attraction to persons of the same sex."Marriage = Marriage is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship. It is an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged in a variety of ways, depending on the culture or subculture in which it is found. Such a union, often formalized via a wedding ceremony, may also be called matrimony.Gay Marriage =(Obviously we are talking about people of the same sex who want to marry each other hence the term "Gay Marriage"Illegal = Illegal, or unlawful, is used to describe something that is prohibited or not authorized by law Opening ArgumentHere is my first argument, lets call it the you need a good reason to make and keep something illegal argument.P1) Freedom is our defaultP2) You need a good reason to make something IllegalC) If a law exists that does not have a good reason for making something illegal, then the law should be changed so the thing is no longer illegalPremise 1) Freedom is our defaultBy saying freedom is our default, is that we start with an innocent till proven guilty assumption, or in this case, freedom or legality is given as an assumption until proven other wise. As John Sturat Mill has written... "the burden of proof is supposed to be with those who are against liberty; who contend for any restriction or prohibition…. The a priori assumption is in favour of freedom…’ [1]Premise 2) You need a good reason to make something illegalI suppose we could just have rules based on the whims of a king or tyrant, but I doubt Pro will argue against this premise. The alternative would be to claim that we don't need a good reason to make something or keep something illegal.Conclusion) If a law exists that does not have a good reason for making something illegal, then the law should be changed so the thing is no longer illegalCommon Arguments used to justify the banning of gay marriageAt this point I would like to go over some common arguments that are used to support the banning of gay marriage......."Gays can't have children"The person who advocates this view probably doesn't claim that an infertile hetrosexual couple should be banned from being able to marry, thus showing that being able to have children is NOT a necessary criteria for allowing people to marry." Allowing gays to marry is giving special rights to gay"A common argument used to support this special rights claim is that only gays want to marry gays thus its only benefits them. But under this kind of reasoning no person or group that is denied something can ever seek to get rid of this denial, lest they be accused of seeking special rights. Perhaps it was wrong to allow women to vote, after all, allowing women to vote only benefited women thus women were seeking "special rights""Hextrosexual marriage is some how necessary or good for the production of future citizens"Allowing gays to marry doesn't stop hextrosexual marriage, nor does it in anyway stop or interfere with children being produced in a hetrosexual marriage."If we allow gays to marry it will result in pedophile & bestiality"Allowing consenting hetrosexual adults to marry doesn't result in these things, so why would allowing gay consenting adults to to marry result in these things ? Without sufficient warrant, its just a slippery slope argument and thus fallacious."Gays or homosexuality is disgusting"So is two hetrosexual fatties having sexual intercourse, but we don't ban marriage to them based on our personal disgust" I don't like gays"Then don't marry a gay person. Gay marriage doesn't force you into a gay marriage, it just gives gays an option to marry other gays.If Pro does agree you need a good reason to make something illegal and/or keep it illegal, then Pro will have to provide a good reason in order to justify gay marriage being banned. Until then the resolution is not affirmed.I look forward to Pros opening argument.Sources[1] http://plato.stanford.edu...