abortion..

A baby has brain activity at 19 days and the hearts begins to beat at 31 days. The definition of death is when the brain and heart stop. Abortion stops both, resulting in death, which is murder. " == PRO == Right, but according to your above definition, before 19 days an abortion is justified as brain activity has not started yet, nor has the heart. Furthermore, the brain doesn't begin to develop 5 weeks into pregnancy "A neural groove (future spinal cord) forms over the notochord with a brain bulge at one end. Neuromeres appear" [. http://en.wikipedia.org...] And the heart doesn't begin to form until the 6th weeks "The heart bulges, further develops, and begins to beat in a regular rhythm. Septum primum (A precursor to the heart) appears. " [. http://en.wikipedia.org...] Therefore, until the 5th week of pregnancy, under your logic, an abortion is not murder. == CON == "The world, people, and government are here to protect the innocent. There are so many groups to protect dolphins, endangered species, fur, etc- but when is the world not responsible to protect the innocent? The most innocence of life is the baby in a womb. Lastly, the word ‘fetus' comes from Latin roots, meaning a child up to the age of eighteen. " == PRO == All of this is largely irrelevant. Firstly, I never advocated supporting any of the above groups, and they're nto relevant to this debate, so strawman. Secondly, it doesn't matter where the word foetus comes from, today it means the precursor to a baby in the womb during pregnancy. == CON == "a. Abortion in no way is ever justified. First of all, you can always deliver the baby after 23 weeks, giving the mother and the baby a chance to live. Under 23 weeks- I ask you, wouldn't a parent always sacrifice their life for their child? How old does the baby have to be, for the parent to sacrifice their life for him/her? " == PRO == Firstly, I put forward a scenario where delivering a baby would mean death for to the child and mother. Secondly, parents can always have another child, and immediatley presuming all will sacrifice themselves for the child is illogical. The option for the parent to birth the foetus should be given to them, rather than forcing them to "sacrifice" themselves. == CON == "sex under the age of 18 is statutory rape, so the rapist is the guilty one. The baby is always the innocent one. The average age of intercourse is 14.7, many years under the age of 18. " == PRO == The rapist may be guilty, and the average age of sex may be 14 years old, but this is largely irrelevant. The law states someone under the age of 18 may not engage in the act of sex. Insofar as that, why should child birth, the same act upon a women, be legal? == CON == "Also, under-age sex is defended and promoted by pro-choice groups, like Planned-Parenthood. Instead of saying not to have sex because you are a minor, they give out condemns and birth control. == PRO == So? I never stated I supported planned parenthood. Besides, contraception is not always 100% effective. == CON == "So you are saying, if one cannot feel pain, than it is okay to kill him/her? What if an adult is in a coma? Besides that point, a baby does feel pain. During amniocentesis, the baby moves. Also, during partial birth abortion the baby moves. The new protocol for partial birth abortions is giving a spinal epidural, so that the baby won't feel the pain and move. " == PRO == If I'm in a coma, I can hear things. I have fully developed organs. I am simply a human in a prolonged vegetative state. Anyone may go into a coma. I will never be a foetus. A baby does feel pain? You're goign to need sources to back that up. , and besides I already have a link proving that up to the third trimester a foes cannot feel pain. Panda