god has no moral compass

"When you state "My friend, what standard are you even pointing to when you cast this judgement?" You do realize fully that its a debate ending statement/ question" The reason I asked that questions was because I wasn"t sure if you were a "moral relativist" or a "moral absolutist." If you were a relativist then the debate would have pretty much over since we could essentially both be correct since both of our ideas on morality would be equally valid. Since it appears that you hold a moral absolutist view of the world, this debate can proceed further. "You mention you use the NIV version. Wow. See, that"s especially why your god would ---never--- rely on text, the worst form of communication possible, to god." This is not a debate about the accuracy or validity of Biblical texts so I do not feel like I need to address this. You seem to bring in a bunch of material that "vaguely" connects with the topic we are discussing. If you want to debate texts, then set up another debate with me or someone else. "Now we"re going to jump to "Evil is a result of human doing wrong." The hell its not. Its your god doing wrong all the time, no exceptions, none. Because if not true, then it means that your god is not in control of something - this person doing evil as an example, doesn't know everything, is not all knowing and all powerful, is not in charge of everything, which shows that this god of YOURS is in no possible way omnipotent, is in no possible way perfect and most certainly not a god." First off, you assume that God is omnipotent--that He can do anything He wants. This concept actually, is not found anywhere in the Bible. You will find a jackpot of verses that show God is extremely powerful, and a bunch of verses that strongly suggests that He is the "most powerful being in all of existence," but you will not find one that states or implies that God is omnipotent. He can"t be. Being omnipotent is a condition that is paradoxical and therefore can"t logically exist. For example, God"s is unable to change His nature and still be God. If He altered His nature He wouldn"t Be God anymore. That is one limit on Him. God also can"t make a triangle a circle, and He can"t make the color blue, red, and make it still be blue. He also can"t make a rock that He couldn"t lift. Basically, there are limits on what God can do. God can't violate His nature, and He can't break logic. Also, when it comes to free will, God purposely ceded his power to allow humans the liberty of choice. That is why people are such a valuable part of God"s creation. We have the ability to make our own decisions. Unfortunately, Free Will can also be a very dangerous ability. It means that while humans can choose to love, and to be charitable, and kind, they also can choose to be wicked, and selfish, and murderous to one another. "When humans do not love,(as God commanded to do)," Well that"s a joke. Did you even at all look at the verses in RD1? Why no of course not. ALL OF THEM ARE YOUR GOD"S DOING. Many of them he killed babies, children and pregnant mothers for absolutely no reason. So don"t tell me that this is in any possible way "love". It is so apparent that you have absolutely no comprehension of the meaning as to what the definition of what the word "love" is. One of the rules you set was to refute ten points, which I did. I believe we would need more rounds for me to address every one of your points--which I would gladly do if I had more space to do so. As for "love", it is a word that is so multifarious and far reaching in its interpretation that the true nature of the virtue could be a topic for a whole another debate. The reason that it is so tough for English speakers to figure out what "Love" means is that we only have one word for it. In Greek, there are four types of love expressible( Ag"pe,"ros,Philia,Storge). Surely, "Love" means more than being peaceful and gentle. Love can be shown is very violent ways. Each and every one of the police officers who came to the scene of the Parkland Shooting were willing to give their own lives in violent ways for the safety of the students, as well as to take life if it were necessary. Are you saying the police were not showing love by willing to kill a madman, Nikolas Jacob Cruz, to protect students? Also, God is a god who clearly rescues people, as shown in Psalm 40:1-17. You say that God hates children. What a second, take a look at Psalm 127:3: "Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring, a reward from Him." You can't even say that God is apathetic. God clearly sees the world's injustices and even gives His promise that He will one day punish those who do evil to others. It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them. --Deuteronomy 32:35 Why doesn"t He punish right away though? Well, It is because He is full of love and is slow to anger(Exodus 34:6). What you keep doing is accusing God of being violent, but then when He does holds back and shows mercy(which He does a whole lot of--just take a look at the world), you shoot back that He doesn"t care about people. You have locked God into a moral cage and won't allow Him to do anything without being criticized. "Here"s a morality test for you to take"" This is a super complex concept which whole books have been written on, but here is the basics. God established the Jewish Nation and gave them certain laws that would separate them from the other nations. The reason was to the show the rest of the world that out of the Nation of Israel there would come The Messiah who would make a way for every human being, no matter how sinful, to have a relationship with God. He wanted Israel to be different, so to speak. Except for the moral laws(don"t murder, don"t commit adultery etc), none of the other laws(dietary, or national) were required of any other nations. Case in point, they actually were not universal laws, but were situational and specific to Israel; They don"t even have to be followed anymore. Even God deals in situational ethics sometimes. This is a really interesting article that deals with this topic quite well. https://www.desiringgod.org... As for the Sabbath, you have to keep in mind that God is no legalistic. Even David violated one of God"s laws but was not held accountable as explained by Jesus in Mark 23-28. The purpose of the Sabbath was for rest and regeneration; it wasn't supposed to be burden in people's lives. As for the example of the man collecting wood, the text does not explain explicitly why God told Moses to stone him, but it is likely that God had the man killed because he was violating the sabbath commands to cause dissent in the community. Again the Old Testament passage does not reveal God"s reason, but when we look at the example of David, and of the Disciples, it is clear that they were working to feed themselves and others. We don"t know why the man in the O.T. passage was working. The disciples, however were doing what God actually wanted people to do on the Sabbath--take care of one"s self and others. As for Homosexuality, this is a wonderful video that will inform you on the many misconceptions that people--especially Christians --have about the Bible and homosexuality. Adultery is terrible! It means that one or both partners are dissatisfied with each other, and it means that one or both have shared intimacy with another person outside of the marriage union! God didn"t want Israel to be known as a nation that was full of people that were unfaithful to each other. He established strict laws so that people would take marriage seriously.Marriage is supposed to be a lifelong commitment were both participants love each other dearly, and will not allow anything to fissure their affection for one another(Song of Solomon 8:6-7) Tracie Harris: "Your question was regarding free will as an argument for allowing suffering......" "Free Will" does not equate with "Free Action." God grants you the ability to make conscious choices, yes, but He does not always allow you to carry out that will. Let's say that I decided one day that I wanted to go murder someone- -I would thus be exercising my Free Will, but if am stopped by the police before I am able to do it, I don't have Free Action. God certainly allows evil to happen. The only reason that God can allow evil and still be just and good, is that He does possess a plan to bring about good from evil. If I, as a human, did nothing while someone raped a child in front of me, I would be a moral monster. God, though, understands the outcome and fully realizes that, despite the physical, sexual, emotional, and psychological pain the child faces, He can bring healing and good out of their suffering. God's heart shatters for the child---God viciously hates the act of rape and is disgusted and wrathful every second it is occurring. Yet, He knows that It must take place for His work to be fulfilled. Joyce Meyer, a Bible teacher, was sexually, and mentally abused as a child by her father, yet God took all that suffering in her life and brought her closer to Him and the true meaning of Love. She is now a speaker who helps thousands of men and woman learn about Love, Grace, God and getting through hard times. https://www.joycemeyer.org... Yes, pain is disgusting, but it is sometimes the only way that people can learn. God is not unwilling to use suffering to show people the beauty of Christ's sacrifice and the beauty of the life that He, alone, can offer(1 Timothy 2:3-4). The Bible says that humans are deceitful above all else(Jer17:9). If people would only love one another we wouldn't have wars, or crime, bigotry, or hate. Fortunately, God has put reigns on evil and will not allow it freedom to run amok.