Homosexuality Is Wrong

Alright, to begin, I will jump straight into rebuttals. "You misunderstood my argument. I did not say that we must all follow religion, but that religion acts as measurement for the debate. Without some sort of prescribed morality we would all have different views of what was moral. Ambiguity would arise and society would cease to progress." I did not misunderstand. You were wanting to hold everyone to the same religious values, but that is simply not fair. next, "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done." At this point in the bible the population was large partly due to the population of Rome. The lord condones these acts because they are contrary to his words." Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator"who is forever praised. Amen. (NIV) Now we"re seeing a bit more of the big picture, aren"t we? This is clearly not talking about Christians. Paul is talking about those who have "exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles." Verse 25 makes the point clear. They "worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator." But is Paul talking about same-sex relationships, or something else? But what are those "created things?" Is it something God created or something that man created as images of deity? But let"s see if that holds true by going back another paragraph to verse 21: 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. Verse 23 is yet another statement that clearly discusses the worship of idols. "images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles." This is one of the most telling phrases in the entire passage. Paul is writing about men who claimed to be so wise that they became fools, and delved into idolatry. They didn"t glorify God and their hearts were darkened. This passage is so often taken out of context! The big picture is that God was getting sick of, "filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity." Next: "I solely agree I am surely not a fit candidate to judge the actions of another, neither is anybody else. Except the fact you said the bible only mainly talks about homosexuality in the old testament not true as shown by my Romans quote. Great Debate" If you stop taking bible versus out of context, people will finally stop looking at all christians like people who are only judgmental. They were being punished for being bad people. Also, My argument still stands. Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. You never really replied to my quote about Onan, which I'm slightly disappointed about because I found that to be interesting, as well as impressive. Thanks, I am finished