Lm Classic: Yraelz vs. Acer

The greatest feeling in any debate round comes when you watch your opponent walk into a trap you set up. This is unfortunately what has just happened to my esteemed opponent, Acer. But before I get to that part of this debate, let me establish a few related arguments. My opponent makes the claim that Sephiroth and Sentry cannot move faster than the speed of light. Not only, he says, is it physically impossible but also it would also stop time thereby I would violate the no time travel rule. My arguments are simple. 1. First off it's not true. Things can move faster than the speed of light. For instance Tachyon particles are believed to move faster. http://en.wikipedia.org... . 2. Additionally many scientists argue things such as the Alcubierre drive and traversable wormholes would both enable faster than light movement without time stops. http://en.wikipedia.org... 3. Next on this point I would argue that your analysis comes directly from Einsteins theory of relatively. There have been a plethora of scientists (some who I'd argue were greater) who criticized Einsteins theory (yes theory) of relativity. For instance Nikola Tesla said that it was, "[a] magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king ... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists". 4. Having significantly discredited the impossibility of faster than light movement I would like to revisit my sources which say for certain that Sephiroth can travel faster than the speed of light. My second source on him states, "and speed faster than the speed of sound and light." My fourth source also states, "vanishing in flashes of light to places unknown." 5. And finally on this point about Sephiroth. If anyone remembers the final boss battle with Sephiroth in FF7 he uses Super Nova. A move which destroys the better part of the solar system in a few seconds. Thus he can easily do moves that travel faster than the speed of light. Which brings me to the second part of my opponents argument about how this would be stopping time. 1. Not necessarily. Look above, to particles that already move faster than the speed of light and other possibilities. 2. Additionally there is absolutely no rule about STOPPING time there is only a rule about TRAVELING through time. 3. But finally. Even if for some reason you believe everything my opponent says about how Sephiroth and Sentry can't go faster than the speed of light, you can always regulate them to just under the speed of light. This of course would still mean that they end up destroying team bleach. Which brings me to team bleach. First off we need to evaluate exactly what a flash step is. 1. The one source I've even been able to find on how fast flash steps are says is a forum. The members argue for different speeds here are the results: >>"I'd say a around 50km/h" >>"Well, it is pretty fast for sure. But if you can appear on top of a 5 story high building from the ground in one second... let's see... that's about 60 feet per second... so about 41 mph." >>"that's 66 km / h" >>"flash = light" >>"Goddess of flash/Shihouin Yoruichi's Shunpo is as fast as a light... " this source goes on to say that everyone else is therefor slower, for example, "The speed of captain level Shinigami is around 150.000.000 km/s..." >>"More then 100km/h" >>"I think that Flash Steps are just under the speed of sound, 340.29m/s meters per second." http://www.bleachanime.org... There isn't much consensus among these lovers of bleach. However they do mostly agree on one thing. Flash steps are either the speed of light or slower. I'd additionally extend that analysis that everyone is slower than the goddess of flash and thus is slower than the speed of light. Considering my opponent isn't using the goddess of flash, his characters are all at MOST slightly slower than the speed of light. Which brings us to the question. Why will team bleach lose? Specifically, because of the trap my opponent has walked into. He argues that Sentry must inject himself with a Serum which will take time. I have a few main reasons why this completely destroys my opponents case: 1. This means, and is stated in the rules, that both of our teams did not have any prep time before the battle began. Which means that sentry did not have prep time in order to inject himself with his Serum, on the contrary he was imported to the battlefield in his normal state. 2. My opponents entire defense hinges off of one sole point, that being, "It [The Sharigan] allows him[Kakashi] to see his enemy moving no matter how fast they are and it gives him the ability to counter it." He then uses Kakashi's Sharigan to see Sephiroth coming and minimize him to a point. Pretty easy argument to make, so whats the problem? 3. The problem is from my opponents own source on Kakashi, it states, "Because the Sharingan only naturally occurs in those of Uchiha lineage, and because his is always active, Kakashi depletes his energy quickly when using it and so must cover it with his headband during his daily activities." In other words, during daily activities Kakashi always has his Sharigan covered and cannot use it. If you look at my opponents source you can see a picture of how Kakashi normally looks with his eye band over his Kakashi eye. 4. So what's this mean? Much like Sentry who must take the vile, Kakashi is going to have to take his eye band off to use his Sharigan. Up until the point Kakashi takes his eye band off he cannot use Sharigan and therefor cannot detect super fast movement. Ultimately this means three things: Zero Time: ======== 1. Kakashi starts to think about removing his eye band in case he needs to see super fast people. 2. Sentry starts to think about injecting himself with Serum in case he needs to fight. 3. Sephiroth moves faster than the speed of light. This allows sephiroth to, before a milisecond is up, reach and slay the entirety of team Con. They cannot see him, they cannot detect him, and they cannot stop his sword from viciously lopping their heads off. This of course also means that the "A few seconds" strategy will be different. A few seconds ========== 1. Sentry injects himself with Serum thereby gaining his powers. 2. Sentry does not move to find team Con. If Sephiroth had not returned by the time he finished injecting the serum then something must have gone extremely diabolically wrong. Sentry is, after all, a genius. 3. Black Alice glances at Sentry and takes his powers. This allows her the ability to travel faster than the speed of light and to hear things coming. 4. The plan commences as normal. The four characters head towards a building (frost turned into diamond form). 5. The tweak is simple. If for some reason Sephiroth failed (basically impossible) then Black Alice will be the only one to see Kakashi coming. Seeing him heading her way she will borrow Kakashi's powers leaving him powerless and instantaneously returning Sentry's powers to him. 6. Black Alice will then proceed to use kumai thereby condensing team bleach(excluding Kakashi) into a point. 7. In the meantime Emma Frost will mind control the now powerless Kakashi. 8. The Sentry and Vash will simply be there for protection. 9. If house or meta night bother showing up they will stand no match for the five characters. Ultimate conclusion: Sephiroth 99% chance of killing the entire Con team. Otherwise Kakashi is taken unawares by a power swap which leaves him at the short end of a now very powerful stick. Team bleach is condensed into a point while meta night runs away probably crying from fear.