Resolved: If Goku and Superman were to fight without holding back, Goku would be the winner.

SPEED: If you understood exactly what you are saying, you would understand that Goku does reach a state of intangibility. Let's see…if he moves so fast that it does not appear that he moves, is that not moving very very very fast? You again ignore the lack of importance the top travel speed has. Once again, unless Superman is psychic, Goku could run and hide. You haven't disproved this. STAMINA: See, I was not comparing Superman at his weakest, as you tried to do; I was comparing Superman how he is. At his best, he is slightly weakened by kryptonite. This means it could still be used against him. Superman could try to melt it, of course, but it is still a weakness Goku could exploit. I never claimed that Goku could not be killed or injured. That would be silly. I do, however, make it a point that Goku can withstand a lot of attacks. A fight to the death was never specified in the debate. We are simply debating in a fair fight. The outcome could be death, but it doesn't have to. An argument that Superman is powered by the sun (doubtful) does not prove why Senzu beans wouldn't do Goku much good. You make no attack on Senzu beans. In both cases, Goku and Superman have near infinite power. You have no real reason for this argument. You claim, again, that I must prove that Goku would know about kryptonite and be able to find it. You gave no argument why he would NOT be able to find or be aware of kryptonite. Since I claimED that it would be common knowledge, you must refute (which you didn't). STRENGTH: By energy, I meant the beams of ENERGY that Goku is able to shoot. Like the beam that is some weird Japanese name that starts with a K that I can not even begin to spell…Heat vision is nothing compared to balls of energy that decimate planets (Freiza blowing up Sayian home world). Again, your flaw in this debate is a lack of defense. All you do is make Superman seem godly, yet forget to state why Goku is not just as, if not more, amazing. You have NO attack against Goku's power which I claim would easily trump, and defeat, Superman. STRATEGY: So, your opening has little value except that Goku might not want to use kryptonite? Since he would not hold back, he would try to win with any attack. You ignore (again) that Superman is not psychic and could not follow Goku if he ran to some hidden planet to charge a Spirit Bomb. This is the first strategy argument that wins it for Goku. Next, you claim that Superman was still good, and that his evilness was just cartoony. Breaking laws with the intent to commit evil deeds is…well…evil! Sorry to burst your bubble like that. Now if a solid entity was able to be composed by Superman's flaws, I would say he has a lot of flaws. Enough to make him NOT pure of heart. Superman is fictional? Really? I had no idea…NO DUH! So is Goku! If you take the path that both are fictional and this is a fictional fight, I could say that the artist decided to draw Goku a super-antisuperman-laser that automatically kills him…oh look, Goku wins. There is nothing restricting you from stating that Superman knows everything about Goku. You just didn't. Not really my fault is it? When looking at the dragon ball argument, my opponent has all but dropped it. All you say is that Superman is fast. So extend everything I said before about Goku using the dragon balls and, well, defeating Superman. This is winning strategy numero dos. When you use the time-travel argument, you claim that Superman could travel back in time before the fight starts. How would this help? It wouldn't. You claim that Superman could fight Goku without all of Goku's powers. However, this is not Goku AT HIS BEST. And that is what we are debating. Your ONLY reason why Superman would have a good strategy is that he can understand many languages. Why don't YOU develop a strategy for Superman to win. We could just let Goku and Superman right our arguments for us! You are debating me, not Superman. NOTE: What my opponent is trying to say is that I can not bring up any new arguments. However, I CAN bring up new defenses to his arguments. This "rule" also extends to his side. No one is SUPPOSED to create a new argument in their last speech. So this where I prove why Goku would win. 1.Speed would play a little factor (this is Superman's largest advantage) 2.Stamina is shared by BOTH at very high levels 3.Strength obviously leans towards Goku's devastating energy beams versus heat vision 4.Strategy has given Goku 2 fool-proof plans to defeat Superman. Superman has 0. Good debate, and thanks!