I call BS on Christianity".

Dann, it"s late and I hope this post makes it in one piece, the spacing, commas and even spelling at times is bound to mess up". I don"t know why. When I cut and paste it is a little bit better, so here goes. Dann, historical discrepancies, you never did". Answer: Sure okay Dann, perhaps you should reread again. I posted discrepancies that happened in the bible, doctrine, anthropology wise, archeology wise and historically. The bible is a total contradiction because no-one that wrote the bible ever knew Jesus, and you already admitted to this. The place where Jesus was supposed to be born never existed, the place he lived was NOT a town or city at the time Jesus was said to have lived there".it isn"t rocket science Nazareth and the Bethlehem story are nonsense as was any life Jesus was supposed to have lived there. Dann, replies: Ridiculous. This is the ludicrous lows that both atheists and Christians always feel the need to stoop to. "Adolf Hitler was yours ergo you guys are bad"} Answer: I see, is this the deflection you were just whining about in your almost rebuttal? Never mind, Dann, I cite you as a source again, when angered it seems that you felt the need to Devalue both sides".I call BS sand accept that this resolution has once again been resolved. PS, Dann, Adolf Hitler was a Christian and you were expressing a Christian lie which is not a very good value now is it. Chase to Dann, you brought up history as it relates to the bible, therefore you brought up anything and everything I choose from the bible, so quit your whining. Dann goes on here and makes a challenge for me that might be fun"let"s do this! Dann{Refute this: No one can say to you 'here it is' or'there it is' , for the kingdom of heaven is within you. That's what Jesus said when asked about the kingdom of heaven. That implies to me that the kingdom of heaven is a state of being, a feeling: I am feeling: my demons is inside myself. All I need do is be careful of my thoughts and feelings and liss myself in the mirror".blaa blaaa bla. Refute that.} Chase refutes: : ) No one can say, sure Dann, okay. The irony is this, anything the bible says it always unsays. The Scriptures tell us that heaven is an actual physical place and that God was the one who made it. The Scriptures also tell us that heaven is where God has His throne. According to the Scriptures, heaven is the destination for Christians when they die. But what even most Christians do not realize is that heaven is not the final destination for those who believe in Jesus Christ. In fact, the Bible tells us that God is going to build a new heaven and a new earth. http://whatdoesthebiblesayabout.com... This implies that heaven is way more than a feeling Dann, your theist is abstract according to Christian sources. If you would have followed the rules of this debate you would have been seeing a lot of contradiction to anything and everything you claim".all coming from other Christians. Dann, states "Christians do not realize" and not realizing is a flaw and not a value, so anything concerning this diatribe of yours is damned to the depths of BS. {"Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence, " What's so extraordinary about the claim that a guy lived once? There nothing extraordinary about that at all. } Answer: Jesus was said to be god, perform miracles, that thousands saw him teach, that he was crucified, that he arose from the dead, born of a virgin 12 year old girl, these are ALL extraordinary claims since not one contemporary encounter mentions him, not even the one they claimed killed him. There is no evidence of Jesus, you said so yourself. Conclusions, The bible is not a historical document, Jesus is not a historical figure, and the bible professes more evil than good (three to one to be exact). To claim someone taught without evidence is completely unethical (or BS). The history of Christianity is the bloodiest of all religions so Danns descriptions of the values taught to Christians must have gone un-noticed. The bibles storyline is absurd and unreasonable and not to mention contradictive. Danns" response, well there are problems he admits"..end of story. Tacitus as a Roman historian and finds this, "Tacitus is most famously known for the Annals, which covers the Roman Empire from 14-68 C.E. and includes information about the reign of Nero. He records Nero"s probable arson of Rome in order to implement his own architectural designs and how he passed the blame to Christians as a ready scapegoat. As a result of this blame, Nero heatedly persecuted Christians and Tacitus wrote the following about this, "But neither human effort nor the emperor"s generosity nor the placating of the gods ended the scandalous belief that the fire had been ordered. Therefore, to put down the rumor, Nero substituted as culprits and punished in the most unusual ways those hated for their shameful acts, whom the crowd called "Chrestians." The founder of this name, Christ, had been executed in the reign of Tiberius by the procurator Pontius Pilate."[xiii] Indeed, emperor Nero used Christians as a scapegoat to explain the fire, which broke out in Rome (64 A.D.). Tacitus mentions that the Christians were likely not the cause of the fire, but used the fire as an excuse to persecute Christians. The Annals do not prove that Jesus Christ existed but merely that Christians existed in the First Century A.D., which no scholar has ever disputed. Since Tacitus recorded The Annals one hundred years after Jesus" proposed existence, this lacks historical reliability(Con NOTES that this is a depiction of a non-contemporary account). It is important to remember that the negative evidence cited above is not "absence of evidence," but rather "evidence of absence." In science, negative evidence is often as important as positive evidence. Source: http://metrostateatheists.wordpress.com...... his"tor"i"cal [hi-stawr-i-kuhl, -stor-] Adjective of, pertaining to, treating, or characteristic of history or past events: historical records; historical research. Having once existed or lived in the real world, as opposed to being part of legend or fiction or as distinguished from religious belief: to doubt that a historical Camelot ever existed; a theologian's study of the historical Jesus. http://dictionary.reference.com...... Nothing could be more improbable than the story of Christ's crucifixion. The civilization of Rome was the highest in the world. The Romans were the greatest lawyers the world had ever known. Their courts were models of order and fairness. A man was not condemned without a trial; he was not handed to the executioner before being found guilty. And yet we are asked to believe that an innocent man was brought before a Roman court, where Pontius Pilate was Judge; that no charge of wrongdoing having been brought against him, the Judge declared that he found him innocent; that the mob shouted, "Crucify him, crucify him!" and that to please the rabble, Pilate commanded that the man who had done no wrong and whom he had found innocent, should be scourged, and then delivered him to the executioners to be crucified! Is it thinkable that the master of a Roman court in the days of Tiberius Caesar, having found a man innocent and declared him so, and having made efforts to save his life, tortured him of his own accord, and then handed him over to a howling mob to be nailed to a cross? A Roman court finding a man innocent and then crucifying him? Is that a picture of civilized Rome? Is that the Rome to which the world owes its laws? In reading the story of the Crucifixion, are we reading history or religious fiction? Surely not history http://www.infidels.org... by Marshall J. Gauvin. Scientific inquiry into the origins of Christianity begins today with the question: "Did Jesus Christ really live?"