Men have easier life than women

RE RE: 1: "Men have easier life than women because they don't have to stand as much pain as women do" In response to by rebuttal to this point, PRO provides 6 points. I shall respond to them numerically. 1: She says that it's not only men that do these strenuous acts of labor which men do, however, I believe it was nonverbally agreed that this debate concerned the "ideal" man and women and wasn't speaking in absolutes. Otherwise, if PRO wants to take this position, then I'll simply point out that not all women experience child birth, not all women work at home and not all women care about being good eye candy to males. 2: Here's what PRO is saying in syllogism format: a) The more and more civilized the world becomes, the less wars there will be. b) If there is less wars, there is less fighting. c) Therefore, the majority of men never have to actually fight in the war. This is clearly a text book example of the non sequitur fallacy. This is simply because the first and second premise speak hypothetically only to make a conclusion that is not hypothetical but rather a statement of fact through observation of the real world. In other words, PRO's argument is the equivalent to saying "Since I could hypothetically earn one million dollars, I have earned one million dollars." In addition, I certainly don't see this world as becoming more civilized at the moment. Wars over oil and land are constantly being fought as we speak. In fact, I'd say that war will erupt if nothing is done about global warming or overpopulation, but that's a completely different debate which I won't touch up on here. 3: Uh . . . sure, I guess I'll agree that men work out because they want women to have sex with them, but that's pretty much what I was saying in the previous round. :D 4. Endangering? Hardly. Maybe in 3rd world countries, but for the most part, our advances in medical science enabled us to drastically lower the likelihood of death during pregnancy. Even so, this is something women have control of as they can just as easily avoid getting pregnant if they dislike the aspect of pain which will occur for a rather short amount of time. 5.. Nope. It is fact that women don't HAVE TO experience periods. Voila: http://www.sciencedaily.com... Since women have a means of suppressing their menstrual cycle, then is no different than men having a means to end their as well. Sure, one may be natural, but this debate doesn't merely concern whether or not men have easier lives than women when it comes to bodily efficiency, but whether or not their lives are easier PERIOD. Motion failed. 6. It links to the argument concerning pain because it concludes that "pain" is only a minor sacrifice in terms of the benefits that come about. RE RE: 2 Men have easier life than women because they aren't supposed to be looking after the household. 1: First, let us go ahead and exclude "walking the dog" and "taking care of the garden" since neither is a part of "handing an ideal household." Now, with the above excluded, the total amount of hours comes up to 19 hours (out of 168 hours in a week). When we compare this to a liberal estimate on how many hours men may work at paying jobs during the idea (8 hours, 5 days a week), we see that it comes up to 40 hours. 2. Nevertheless, PRO realizes the above hence why she decides to shift her argument to claiming that "most" women work and take care of their children in spite of the fact that her original point was that women merely work in the household. Obviously, this is a clear example of the "moving the goal post fallacy" on PROs part. I find her method here to be highly abusive. Nevertheless, to counter her abusive tactics, I'd like to point out that there is a great deal of men who have to put up with housework AND a paying job as there are many men who are single parents. In addition, I'd like to point out that there are many men who fall under PRO's example of women; men who have to multitask to cope with the women's lowing pay job and poor housework abilities. Thus, it is pretty clear that PRO's argument is of no real merit. At very most, she is just showing that men and women are equal in terms of the burdens which life brings (which, as pointed out in R1, is one of the ways for you to vote CON in this debate). 3. PRO misunderstands me on the comparison between a job and housework. It is most obvious that there are more freedoms when one merely has to worry about housework as lets face it, there is no boss, you can do what you want when you want it, and you aren't stressed about whether or not you can earn something. Heck, while doing housework, one can easily manage to read a newspaper, watch tv and surf the web at the same time. As for this pressure which comes from taking care of the house, it's not that big of a deal really. An IDEAL husband will simply get into an argument or give his wife the cold shoulder of making a mistake over housework. On the other hand, if one is to make a mistake at a paying job, they risk getting Fired, ergo LOSING THEIR SOURCE OF MONEY. RE RE: 3: "Men have easier life than women because they don't have to look after themselves as much as women do". 1: Again, PRO misunderstands me on this point. I'm not talking about woman having to avoid getting fat. That can EASILY BE (and is often) done without working out. As suggested in the previous round, I'm talking about building muscle mass through pumping iron; I'm talking extensively lifting weights (which can be very problematic as dictated here: http://www.local10.com... ). This brings about consistent stress and pain, thus is surely tiers above shaving your legs or putting on make up. 2a: Hmm, I'm not going to link the audience to any "questionable websites." That said, craigslist is a good example of place where you'd find these kinds of women. In fact, the reason I won't provide any links (although I'm willing via private message if is really that necessary to confirm my claim here) is because the area of the website which I'm referring to concerns prostitution. In light of that, it's even worse that men are willing to PAY MONEY just to get on with people such as that. 2b: Once again, PRO attempts to resort to the "not everyone does this" response, not realizing that I can just as easily point out that not every man cares about whether or not a woman keeps herself looking well to the extent which PRO talks about in this section. 2c: Sure, a man can go to a whorehouse. Relevance? Points to note: Note that PRO's argument on "not every woman does X" works against her. Note that she has ended up changing her argument. Also note that she never really attempts to disprove my argument on woman having an easier opportunity to get laid than men. I I could repeat myself, but I suppose I'll wrap this debate up in the third round. Till then. Later. :D