Right and wrong is perception

I would like to start by thanking my opponent for an enjoyable debate. 1. MoralityYes, I said right and wrong could be subjective. I'd be stupid for stating otherwise. However, in your first argument you argued about morality. That is what I have been arguing. You cannot argue that certain things like murder, rape and thievery are morally sound. Not logically. 1.1 Murder If you are protecting yourself from another person who is harming you, it is not murder. It is necessary self defense. I defined murder and killing in my last argument. Murdering requires malice and aforethought of the action. You have to be acting with the intent to murder the victim. If you are taking necessary measures to defend yourself, then no, you didn't plan on killing him, nor were you acting in malice. So it is not a murder, nor is it immoral. In the case of our military, they are defending our citizens from the malice and harm of other countries. You can argue that the war on terror was started with the intent to kill known terrorist leaders. This is true. But we did it in order to keep our country safe. Not out of malice. Definition of [1] malice, by the way, is the "desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another." While our military is causing "pain, injury or distress" to another, aka terrorist leaders, they are doing it to protect this country, and sometimes you have to take the lesser of two evils, the 2nd evil, would be to have complete neglect of it's citizens and allow them to be harmed by the malice of others.1.2 RapeSo, because some men may believe that it's "ethical to rape there wife's if they don't have sex with them", it is now moral? No, it is not. Human rights and the ten commandments say so. It is 100% immoral to rape someone. Period. Why? Because God and common sense say so. Would you (hypothetical person) like me to force you to do something against your will? Of course not. Therefore, common sense also says that it is immoral. 1.3 Robbery Is robbery 100% immoral? Absolutely. Would I do it if I absolutely had to in order to feed my kids? Absolutely. Again, desperate times call for desperate measures. It is still, technically immoral to rob someone, or their store, but if I had to feed my kids, I would risk jail time for it. Doesn't make it moral however. 2. GodI brought God into the argument because the basis of morality comes from God. Yes, parts of the bible are myths, but that doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. He gave us rules to live by, and it would be stupid to argue against them. There is no logical argument in favor of murder, thievery or rape (as well as other things), and so it can be concluded that morality is not objective, but is constant. Yes, without free will, we would be robots. Our world wouldn't exist the way it does without free will. We wouldn't have desires, we wouldn't have emotions, we wouldn't have lots of things, without free will. So yes, God gave it to us. But he also gave us guidelines, and the will to do as we please. It is up to us to make that choice. He did make us naturally moral, because like I said before, if he made us otherwise, then we wouldn't act as we do today. We wouldn't teach our kids to be good, but the opposite. As far as humans causing pollution or the extinction of animals, that doesn't matter. I am talking about human morality. The way we act towards each other. God never commanded us against the killing of animals, and without any help from humans, millions upon millions of species of animals have gone extinct. As for pollution goes, that is for a whole other argument, but to keep it short, we don't pollute the earth as much as the media leads on, and again, I am talking about our actions towards humans, not the earth.ConclusionI have shown to you why, right and wrong in the form of morality, is not subject to perception. You can have your own opinion, but that doesn't make murder, rape, or robbery right. It doesn't change the morality (or rather, immorality) of it. Yes, right and wrong in the form of opinions on sports, politics and movies may vary, and will vary, however we have been arguing about morality which is constant. Murder is wrong, rape is wrong, and robbery is wrong. It may seems justified in some cases, but it is still what it is. I therefore conclude that morality and immorality are constant, and cannot be changed by peoples opinions. Thanks again to my opponent for an enjoyable debate. This was certainly a hard topic to defend, but I gave it my best. I'll just wait and see what you guys think. [1] http://www.merriam-webster.com...