A saved person, a Christian, may sin in such a way as to be eternally lost.

1. He exercised his choice of rejecting God which is not a sin. I will say that no one can judge him so I don't know if he would be saved but since he has made the personal choice to reject God, only God can determine his salvation status. I obviously deny you're contention since I'm Con and my contention has been that the choice to ultimately reject God is what makes us eternally lost since the choice to reject God is not a sin. So my answer would be that no one can judge him and no one including me can tell if he was saved or not but I do believe that God is a good God and would judge fairly especially since choosing to accept or reject him isn't a sin. I think that since rejecting God is what makes you eternally lost, he would be eternally lost but no one can judge. 2. You put words in my mouth. The choice to reject God is not a sin but it is what makes you eternally lost. My resolution is "A saved person, a Christian, makes the ultimate choice whether to reject to accept God which will determin his salvation status." That is absolutely different. Again, no one can judge but according to my contention, the decision to reject God is what makes them eternally lost. Therefore this is not an affirmation but instead a totally different idea. 3. No. God gave us this freedom to ultimately choose if we reject him or not which is why it is not a sin. The exercising of this is a God-given right. 4. What is you're point. I showed that forsaking and rejecting are totally different things and you're refutation is that "The difference for our purposes, is the difference between tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum." You have no refutation except saying without any back-up that they're the same thing as "tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum". I don't care if you forsake God and he forsakes you because it's a totally different thing than rejection. 5. The Law had many flaws and in the Bible, Jesus himself pointed it out that the Law if flawed because it was only the rules and restrictions without anything that could help you to do it. Today, the Holy Spirit empowers us to do so. The Law is flawed which means that the basis of right and wrong was flawed and "every man did as his own will". 6. No you haven't, you have failed to prove that the sins are what makes you eternally lost, however I have proven that it is rejecting God that will make you eternally lost and that choice is not a sin. 7. "You have already consented that believers, Christians, may sin and ultimately be lost." No, I have not. "Ok, if one simply exercises this choice to quit believing and becomes an atheist and dies an atheist - is he still saved?" Your answer is: "No." Well, then this saved person did SOMETHING and wound up lost, didn't he?" Yes!! Not because of his sin, but because of his choice to reject God and I have further proven that rejecting God is not a sin. "What are you debating anyway?" Obviously he is not sinning by rejecting God. I am debating that rejecting God is not a sin and that is what makes you eternally lost. 8. "As I said, and correct me if I'm wrong, your entire debate is not whether a child of God can be saved, then lost. You admit this is possible, then claim the person went from "saved" to "lost" and did not sin - or if he did, the sin didn't cause him to be lost. Well, what did, then?" The choice to reject God made him lost not his sins. That choice was not a sin as I've proven. "Actions are merely expressions of thoughts. What did you say about, ""But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matt 5: 28)? Not one word. Why? Because the person merely THOUGHT about it, and Jesus is saying it is the SAME THING." So? What's you're point. This is one instance where God says that lusting is a sin. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that rejecting God is a sin. "This is that thinking about it According to you, thinking about it is no problem until you really get down to business and physically sin." I never said that. You're putting words into my mouth again. 9. You give a verse from the story of Noah's ark and they were evil. They rejected God. But the rejecting of God is not the thought of the heart. This was that they were sinning. They would go to hell for rejecting God but God decided to wipe them out because their sin was so great that the Lord couldn't stand it anymore. I would not say that rejecting God is evil. 10. Yes. Evil thoughts are sin but the rejecting of Christ is not because the Lord gave us this choice. 11. You are criticizing my position and saying that it is against the Lord's Word and sound logic when I have proven that the rejecting of God is what takes us to hell and that is not a sin. I have successfully refuted my opponent's attacks and have attacked her case successfully.