Did a man named Jesus of Nazareth once Exist - Team Debate

- There is absolutely no reason to turn this into a god exists debate. This debate is simply if a man named Jesus of Nazareth once preached throughout the Roman Empire. - I do expect sources, because I am going to put a lot of records of his existence on the table, so any counter-arguments need sources proving my records are false. - I meant that any arguments in the comments or elsewhere should not be factored into the vote. One could almost take that as an insult. . Especially seeing from your comments on what your views on "open-mindedness" are. This isn't an attack on the debater. I mean no disrespect. My point is that open-mindedness is a judgement. An opinion. So, let us begin. I think I said that wrong. It's just that a lot of voters seem to side with their religion no matter what, unless the other side was really stupid. . http://www.youtube.com... Evidence that a man named Jesus of Nazareth existed------------------------------------------------------- Josephus - Josephus was a Jewish scholar, and did not believe Jesus was the son of god. In his book, "The antiquity of the Jews", he gives a summary of Jesus's trial with Pilate, and confirms his existence. Sources:. http://www.tektonics.org...http://beginningandend.com... Tacticus - Tacticus was a roman historian, who wrote on the existence of Jesus. He was not christian, so he is a good source. He gives a testimony on christians at the time in "The Annals". He refers to a man named "Christus" (Roman for Messiah), who leads the jews, and gives an account of the execution, overseen by Pontitus Pilate. Sources:. http://law2.umkc.edu...http://www.earlychristianwritings.com...http://www.4truth.net...http://www.bede.org.uk...http://www.livius.org... Lucian- Lucian is another secular source, who too spoke about Jesus's existence. He was Syrian, and his writings are generally accepted. - Lucian was very critical about Jesus, despite confirming his existence. His passage was wrote after Jesus's death, but he still backs up the fact on his existence in the satire "The death of Peregrinus"Sources: . http://lucianofsamosata.info...http://www.probe.org...http://www.neverthirsty.org... Julius Africanus- Julius Africanus was a Christian Historian and Preacher. While he himself was non-secular, he quotes secular Thallus, in "The chronicles"“An eclipse of the sun’unreasonably, as it seems to me (unreasonably of course, because a solar eclipse could not take place at the time of the full moon, and it was at the season of the Paschal full moon that Christ died. ”Sources:. http://community.allhiphop.com...http://www.britannica.com... Pliny the Younger- Perhaps the most famous of the people who confirmed Jesus's existence. His writings are believed to be untampered, and he was also not religious. - He wrote a letter to the emperor confirming Christ's existence, and is another respected writer who provides ample evidence that a man named Jesus of Nazareth once existedSources:. http://www.pbs.org...http://www.tektonics.org... Suetonis- Suetonis was a historical biographer and antiqual writer. He was a high ranking noble and law scholar. - Suetonis used this quote in one of his writings "As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he expelled them from Rome. "- Also this quote"As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he expelled them from Rome. "- Now the common objection is that he spells christ wrong, but the way he spells it is actually suitable in greek. Jesus was not even commonly called "Christ" until later into the dark ages. Sources:. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com...http://www.tektonics.org...http://www.discoveringjesuschrist.com... Conclusion: Here I have listed people who have no affiliation with Christianity, and are well respected. Next round I willl reference Christian records to Jesus existences, and disputed writings to his existence, such as the Talmud. Note on sources: Some of you might criticize me for using some christian sources, but to counter this, I also included non biased sources. Any religious sources were checked for considerable logic, so as I am not bashed on for including ramblings. Please do not accuse me of this, as I have explained myself.