Baptism is a salvation issue.

Let me start by introducing myself since I'm new here. Hi everyone, my name is Isaac, but you probably know me better as Acts2-38. I am currently 14 years of age and love a good debate. BTW My denomination is apostolic. Alright lets get into the debate now. :) I will also use the KJV bible. You stated this. "This means that the English word "baptize" has no meaning of its own, but we must look at the uses of the Greek word "baptizo" in the Bible and in Greek literature to find it's true meaning. What we want to know is, what did "baptizo" mean to the New Testament writers who used it in the Greek text. " My reply. Instead of using philosophy why don't we try to use the bible to interpret what baptism means. Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same Scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. ***Fact Philip preached Jesus unto the eunuch. *** Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? ***Fact the eunuch wanted to know why he couldn't get baptized after Phillip preached Jesus to him. *** Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. ***Fact the eunuch believed that Jesus was the Son of the living God. *** Acts 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. ***Fact Philip baptized the eunuch by going down into the water. *** Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. ***Fact they Philip and the eunuch both came up out of the water. *** So here we see what baptism really is. Baptism is going down into the water and coming back up. 1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. ***Fact Peter is talking about physical water like the days of Noah. *** 1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: ***Fact as we see here water baptism saves us. *** Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. ***Fact if we are buried with Christ in baptism we also should walk in newness of life. *** Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: ***Fact if were buried with Christ in baptism we rise again in salvation. *** Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: ***Fact if we are buried with Christ in baptism we will shall live with him in heaven. *** You stated this. The thief on the cross, who was mocking Jesus then had a change of heart,, Jesus told him Luke, 23:43 = ". .. .Today shalt thou be with me in paradise". where was his baptism ? ,, My reply. The church was not born yet. The church was born on the day of Pentecost in the book of acts. Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. ***Fact this was fulfilled in acts chapter 2*** Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. ***Fact it was the day of Pentecost. *** Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. ***Fact a mighty sound as a wind filled the house where the 120 were sitting. *** Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. ***Fact there appeared cloven tongues like fire that sat on the 120 heads. *** Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. ***Fact the church was now born here when they were filled with the holy Ghost and spoke in tongues. *** Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ***Fact it would not make sense to repent if you already had the remissions of sins. That is like repenting because of the remissions of sins. This passage also states baptism is different then receiving the Holy Ghost. *** Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. ***Fact Ananias was telling Paul what are you waiting for be baptized for the remissions of sins. *** John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Fact Jesus said water and spirit. What was the spirit? The Holy Ghost (ghost means spirit). What was water? Baptism and a water baptism,otherwise Jesus wouldn't have said water. To start round two I would also like to state that throughout the bible there are many verses after John said that Jesus would baptize us with the Holy Ghost that people were baptized with water and the Holy Ghost.