The 10 commandments: What true downers they all are

"Well if you believe in christianity and its values, then you believe in its god. How can you not?"I obviously recognize that the Bible was written by humans, and regardless of whether they were divinely inspired, they were much less advanced and civilized than us, but to recognize underlying metaphorical themes and principles in the Bible and to claim that they are useful and ethical does not require accepting that every word in the Bible is literally true. Many works of fiction throughout history such as the works of Shakespeare are not literally true, but have nuggets of underlying wisdom that can be applied to the real world. It would be totally invalid to literally interpret any of these fictional stories, including the Bible, but we can utilize them without doing so. Almost all Westerners, regardless of their religion, live a fairly Judeo-Christian lifestyle. We don't murder, we don't steal, we don't live polygamous lifestyles, and we teach our children not to lie, but we didn't just come up with these principles on our own. They're traditional values were developed over thousands of years and expressed through stories like those in the Bible. Also, I never claimed that all the values and stories expressed in the Bible were unquestionably valid and perfect. That's why we talk about them and adapt our interpretation of them.The assumption that a literal god exists is not necessary for us to discuss the validity of the 10 commandments. If the literal god that exists in the Bible was commanding that we should follow these rules or be put to death, I would agree that is wildly immoral, but that presupposition is not necessary to discuss this topic. There are much broader ways of interpreting these commandments which I laid out in my first round."Who in their right mind would NOT rebel against a tyrannical dictator that god clearly is?"If we were to take the Bible absolutely literally, I would agree, but that's not the only sense in which we can discuss these stories and specifically these commandments. I'm going to try to refrain from reiterating this point too much as it's applicable to pretty much everything you've written so far."Sure. Honor your mother and father IF and only IF they are good to you. If they rape and beat you and treat you like a dog, then it is they that should be cursed at at the very least."Regardless of how your parents treated you, or I as I mentioned earlier, your metaphorical/cultural parents, they are a significant part of what made you the person you are. You should certainly recognize their flaws, especially if they're huge and disastrous flaws, but to completely disrespect and disregard them as entities in your life has bigger implications than you'd think. I'm sure you've heard of the idea that you shouldn't forget where you came from. This is the same idea. "No its thou shalt not kill. Back then the terms 'murder' and 'kill' meant the same thing."This is not true. The proper translation from the original documents is "Thou shalt not murder." Killing becomes murder if you were not doing it in defense of yourself or others. And again, you bring up the idea that in the stories, God told people to kill in his name during holy wars, but this is only a valid point if we both accept the presupposition that I'm representing the literal interpretation of the Bible, which I'm not."I nor anyone has the right to take away the pleasures of sex from anyone as being with someone different is always a different experience. No it doesn’t destroy trust at all. It destroys jealousy."How does it destroy jealousy to commit adultery? It creates jealousy in your partner. Sex is an extremely powerful act, and adultery is generally interpreted by the offended spouse as a sign that the adulterous spouse might have romantic feelings for another person, which devalues the bond between the two partners. If you don't respect the value of that bond enough to maintain monogamy, you shouldn't engage in a serious relationship.