Police and government are inherently hostile towards activists

The US Government Has Shown indecent Force, but not recently Thanks for starting the debate, this is my first :) Throughout U. S. history we have seen many political, religious, and social protest. The first widely known protest following the founding of our country was known as Shay's rebellion and lasted from 1784-1787. Shays' Rebellion was a farmers' uprising named for its leader Daniel Shays, the climax happened when Shays led 1100 men in an attempt to seize the arsenal in Springfield, Mass. The State militia com"manded by Gen. William Shepherd was deployed and re-routed the insurgents. The uprising had been caused by the harsh economic conditions faced by Massachusetts farm"ers, who sought reforms and the issuance of paper money. The insurrection was begun in and of the 1784 depression that crippled the seminal U. S. Economy until 1788. Now this may seem like a good reason to protest, and it was, but the threat of violence at this point seemed overwhelming, and needed to be dealt with. That is one great example of a need for police and government intervention to protect citizens. Now, there was another instance where I do believe the government did not overstep their boundaries. One would be the "Kent State Massacre", where four protesting students were killed. Now I don't know the full extent of the occurrence, but there had been arson and other crimes being committed by the protesters, and they had been acting violent towards the police. I don't really know if there there was an actual attack on police or not, but in tense moments like that someone may get nervous and fire. I do believe they're may have been a reason why the police did end up shooting these protesters. I have trust in our law enforcement officers. The ones I do agree on with violence by government and police taking it too far is with the people like MLK and the protests he led. If a group is being peaceful, and not causing harm, or committing any crimes, hen they should be allowed to protest. As long as it does not infringe upon another persons safety or their constitutional rights, then it's ok to protest. So yes, the civil rights movement for the most part was a great, legal way of protest, and it really has seemed to pay off. Also, I think they took the Waco,TX massacre too far as well. Now, if you're talking about modern day protests, most of them carry along fine, and little violence occurs. Sometimes, there will be a bad seed and they get arrested NOT SHOT or BEATEN. If you think about the Tea Party, they are a great example of how a modern protest should look. They're courteous with picking up after themselves, they obey the the laws, and simply show their signs, hand out pamphlets, and go about their own business. Where as you have a group like OWS (Occupy Wall Street) who's calling cops pigs, and throwing barrels of crap into banks, breaking store windows, have rapes, and theft occurring inside their camps, and several other nefarious acts. They have extra watch on them, because they have talks of revolution, and government overthrow, which honestly should make any level headed American consider the dangers, and the seriousness of a group like this. It's not your everyday PEDA group, or Tea Party rally. Then they start shoving the officer walls, and throw things at them, and so for their own safety the police fire rubber pellets, and tear gas (Occupy Oakland was the most violent of the Occupy movement). It wont kill anyone, and it deters the protesters from attacking them. Finally, I'm sure you're also talking about men like Chris Doerner, who actually was shooting people, and killing innocent officers. All because he felt he had been discriminated against. Now, don;t get me wrong discrimination is bad. But, to go, and start a killing spree is beyond common sense, and the police did what they needed too. They had to kill this man for the protection of fellow police men, and citizens. So, I rest my case, and leave it too you. You need to understand that every government makes mistakes, but our government and police force is far from being corrupt, and oppressive of free speech. If anything people are to whiny about "HATEFUL" rhetoric. If you compare the US too any other country you'll see that ours has treated it citizens the best, unlike countries like FRANCE, and GERMANY. Yes, these two countries have mad great strides. But we have never had a Hitler, or a Napolian. You can thank our Republic society(WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY), and the constitution. Then you have countries like North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and the former USSR. So corrupt, and they have killed many of their own citizens! !! ! WE HAVE NOT. (Although Obama may with his new drone program that he can use on US citizens in our own country without warrant) but still so far nothing like the aforementioned countries. So, if you look at history you should be thankful for the system we have, and be proud of the freedoms we are allowed to express. And you should thank the police for sticking to the law and allowing us too show our thoughts. And lastly. .. .. Karl Marx? Really? The man who brought us STATE RUN COMMUNISM in which the government controls speech and political opponents would be killed? The man who stated that about 10% of a population would need to be killed in order to have a successful revolution. Dude that is not a good example to use in your defense. Gotta read your communist mainfesto a little closer lol.