Guns kill people!

This debate is supposed to be about weather or not Guns kill people. I did bring up gun control however because I feel as though it is very relevant seems most people who believe guns kill people believe they should be banned for this reason. "They don't have to be shot by someone. They can misfire or be dropped." With that logic that would mean that bullets kill people not guns! After all if there was no bullet in the gun that was dropped or misfired it would have never killed anyone. Honestly though accidents happen and not just with guns. But if you want to ban things like that ware an accident can cause a life that say goodbye to the auto industry, say goodbye to the airlines, say goodbye to construction work and most sports! My point is you can not get rid of something because someone can accidentally get hurt or worse killed. That's just part of life. "nobody wants to completely ban guns" WRONG! There are many people who want all guns banned all handguns, shot guns, etc. Mainly the PETA animal rights groupies. But there are other extremists too. Hand guns can be very necessary for some people to own. For instance someone who hunts who only has one arm can not be expected to shoot a rifle accurately or safely nor should they be denied the ability to hunt. Not to mention that HAND guns can be very HANDy when it comes to self defense because as you said they are small and easy to hide. I know you said if guns were banned you wouldn't need a gun for self defense and I will go into that more later. As far as automatic and semi-automatic guns it is true they are not designed for killing deer. But deer are not the only big game animals that people hunt. There are many bigger animals such as elk, moose, bare, wolves and other wild animals that can and will fight back. They are not made for the sole purpose of killing people, nor are they used primarily for such. So not always is your statement of "There is therefore no logical reason why a civilian should need one" true. Not to mention some individuals wish to have them as a collector's item. Maybe you and I might think that is ridiculous but that doesn't mean it should be law that they can't. "if the criminals don't have guns, every one's a whole lot safer." This is true however there is no possible way to ban guns from just criminals. So as you have suggested we would have to take everyone's guns away. The logic you are missing is the fact that they are CRIMINALS! Which would imply that they are breaking the law, so if they are breaking the law already, what makes you think they are going to turn in all their guns because it is "illegal"? Or what is to stop them from importing or exporting guns from other places? Nothing will stop them because at the end of the day they are going to do what they want to regardless of weather it is illegal or not! That's why we refer to them as criminals. Thus leaving all of us, law abiding innocent people unarmed when a criminal attacks us. Believe me criminals are not all stupid many can make handguns for themselves. I know a guy who teaches a class on how to make a gun from scratch all you need is a tree and some steel. Now I know this guy and I can vogue that he wouldn't hurt a fly. But who is to say that a criminal can not get their hands on this information if it is already out to the public? "But it will make it much harder to commit murder." It will not make it any harder for a criminal to commit murder. In fact it very well could make it easier. Again criminals will still have access to guns weather they are illegal or not. But now all of the innocent people are unarmed and defenseless when staring down the barrel of a gun. Making the murder rates go up if anything. "Not having guns around would prevent repeats of things like the Columbine or Virginia Tech shootings" Again this is false. I am a kid who comes from a school ware there was a school shooting that took two lives. A kid brought a gun to school shot the principal to death (who was a friend of mine) and they took his own life. One of the only things that will drop school shootings is when parents who own guns take the RESPONSIBILITY upon themselves to lock up their guns and keep them in a safe place away from their children. Not to mention staying active in their kids lives and teaching them the difference between right and wrong. Now back to the topic of mine, "Guns don't kill people" The other day I saw a bumper sticker that read "Yeah guns kill people, just like the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat." I had to laugh but the statement couldn't have been any more accurate! Rosie is a BIG lady and although I am sure she used a spoon to help herself get the way she is. The spoon did not MAKE her fat; neither did the fork, knife, cheese cake, pizza, or jumbolia that she shoveled down the open hatch. The thing that made her fat was her desire to eat more. In other words Rosie had a CHOICE! Sure all of these things may have played an active role in her obesity but if she didn't have all of these things she would have still found a way to get to this glutinous state she is in without them. Because Rosie has made a choice to eat an abundance of food and it doesn't matter if you take the spoon away from her she will find chopsticks and master the art of using them. If not chopsticks she will find another way, if she really wants it that bad she will get it and believe me she will! Banning is nothing more than a cover for the fact that the secular mind cannot find solutions to society's problems and doesn't know what to do about it. I find this so pathetically simplistic that it is nearly laughable! Banning has never worked in this country AND IT NEVER WILL! We banned liquor in this country once. You couldn't find a drink in the Roaring twenties could ya? Um... WRONG!! Just ask Al Capone! They called them the Roaring Twenties for a reason. They were out of control, drinking was a HUGE problem even after the government banned it. If you are wondering why this is, It is because if someone really wants a drink they aren't going to let a simple "Ban" get in their way. They will go to any extent necessary to get what they want! Let's think about that logic for a minuet. If Banning works as well as you think it does. I say why stop there. Let's not just ban guns, why don't we just ban CRIME! I mean honestly do you think if we ban guns of crime in this country criminals (who are already intending on breaking the law by the way) are just going to say, "Aw, rats! I was going to shoot that guy, but apparently it's "illegal" now..." I DON'T THINK SO!!! If they really want to kill someone they will not let a ban get in their way! Even if you take away their gun they will find a noose, a knife, a bow and arrow or their filthy bare hands for crying out loud and strangle or beat their UNARMED victim to death! (I made sure to emphasis unarmed in that last sentence because if guns don't exist that means not even the innocent victim can have one!) In taking all of this into account I have come to the conclusion that guns don't kill people… bullets kill people! Ha-ha, no but really all joking aside let's break this down piece by piece. If there is a bullet in the chamber, someone must have put it there! If someone put it there, he had to have done it on purpose! If he did it on purpose that would imply that he made a choice! If he made a choice, that is because he has reason! If he has a reason, that would mean he's autonomous. If he is autonomous, it means he has the ability to choose between right and wrong! If he can and does point the gun at someone and pull the trigger, it means he meant it! If he meant it that means that it is his fault. There fore the gun is not to blame, the bullet is not to blame, and the NR frick'n A is not to blame! The only noun in this equation that is responsible for the death of another human being is the HUMAN HIMSELF! Guns do NOT kill people. PEOPLE kill PEOPLE! Period.