Gay Marriage

Again, my opponent has presented an argument WITHOUT evidence to support his claims. Again you claim, "The government does not want allow gay couples into marriage because this relationship does not have a direct link to the family unit (therefore making it a private relationship, which the government has no interest in)." WITHOUT a source to support this. Where did this point come from and where is your evidence to support it? Again you also claim "This denial of gay couples is not because of sexual orientation, rather it is because the relationship does not have the public means of benefiting the society through the family unit directly." WITHOUT listing said "benefits" that I have asked for MULTIPLE times. What can X do that Y cannot? And why is this relevant when allowing gay couples to marry? This "direct link to the family unit" claim is not valid UNTIL you provide evidence to support this claim because as of now you have yet to present even the smallest form of evidence to support this. This leads me to conclude that you fabricated this claim and tried to pass it off as some form of valid argument. And I think I have made it clear that having children is NOT a legal marriage requirement, so even if you could find evidence to support this claim, it is irrelevant. Every major accredited source I have read says otherwise. Even if having children was a legal marriage requirement (which it's not), gay couples are just as capable of raising children as heterosexual couples. Children need loving PARENTS, not just a "biological mother and a father". What the parents have between their legs is irrelevant when raising children to be productive citizens in society. Children need parents, whether those parents are two men, two women, a men and a women, adoptive, biological, their grandparents, their aunts, their uncles, their older siblings or extended relatives. The "direct link to family unit" is NOT a logical, valid reason to deny gay couples the right of marriage, especially when having children is NOT a legal marriage requirement. Gender is not linked to parenting skills. http://www.psychologytoday.com... Also I must address this claim... "It simply does not make sense that the government recognizes marriage for absolutely no reason." The government does recognize marriage for a reason. Marriage is a LEGAL bond between two people. It allows two people to file taxes with one another, it grants them visitation rights when their spouse is hospitalized or in critical condition, it allows them to make medical decisions for their spouse when they are not able to, it gives two people the right to own property with one another, it grants rights of inheritance and control of their property when their spouse dies, and much more. Having children has nothing to do with this and is, once again, NOT a legal requirement in marriage either. I don't think you truly understand what marriage is, because based on this entire argument so far it seems as if you feel that marriage is some sort of "breeding bond". You don't have to be married to reproduce and that isn't a valid reason to deny gay couples from marriage either. People don't just get married to pop out babies. At this point in the debate, it is clear to me that you do not fully understand the legal implications that come with marriage. And you have yet, to present a logical argument to support your side. It just keeps getting repetitive. For example, you claim "The family unit is overall great for the society and the government wants to promote these units." Once again, you are speaking on behalf of the government but haven't presented any form of evidence to support this claim. You just keep saying it as if it is true, but it's not because it's not the government's responsibility to "promote the family unit". That is something you made up because that is not factual. If it is, feel free to provide sources to prove me wrong. Until then, you are wrong. You also claim, "I would like to note that the reason having children is not a requirement in marriage is because the government wants to promote any relationship that has a direct link to the family unit, not the family unit itself." Again, this is not true, at all. You also claim "Gay couples however, do not have direct means of having children. That is the point. One of the requirements of having a direct link to the family unit is that through your own relationship only, that the couple themselves have children." This again, is not true. And you have yet to present evidence to support this. Not only is this not true, it's also irrelevant. The purpose of this debate was for you to present a clear, logical argument against legalizing gay marriage with evidence to support your claims. You have not done this yet. Hopefully you would be able to do so in your next argument. Until then, I await your response.