From and Entertainment Perspective, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is a Good Animated Show

Wow I don't know where to even begin. Clearly Pro either didn't read my argument or he somehow misinterpreted. What he did seem to read Pro completely twisted it into his favor. I hate to sound like a broken record, but I guess I am going to have to.The whole point to my my "outside popular demographic" thing was to prove that there is a reason for demographics. That reason being that demographics are made to cater to people INSIDE of the demographic. As I said before that doesn't mean watching or enjoying something that isn't in your demographic is bad. That means you are less like to do so. Just like with toys. A toy dump truck would not get as much enjoyment from a 30 or 40 something year old VS. a 2 or 3 year old.Pro thinks the backbone of my argument is that the show doesn't cater to adults. This isn't true. The backbone of my argument is that just like with anything adults are LESS LIKELY to enjoy something that isn't made for them. Adults usually want adult elements in their stories. Do adults like things that don't have these elements? Yes, but how many adults talk about the latest episodes of Sesame street at the watercooler? Not many. Even in my place of work I hear more of my co-workers talking about the latest sports team or the current event on the news. I have never heard a co-worker of mine talk about (insert kids show here). That doesn't mean they hate kids shows, but that means they don't find them as interesting a sports or current events.Pro says that I said that adults can't enjoy MLP because it doesn't have violence. This also isn't true. I said adults can't enjoy the show because it is limited. There are plenty of shows/movies that don't feature violence that adults enjoy. It isn't about the elements that MLP lacks. It is about the limits to the story that MLP lacks that makes one not like the show.I will bring up another of Faust's original stories that was cut due to the shows limits. There was a story about the characters finding a pony that was abandoned as a child and then raised by deer. This was cut from the show because of the "childrens only" limit it has on it. Disney's "Meet the Robinsons" was pretty much that cut episode. It was a story about a child abandoned as a baby at an orphanage. He then spent his life trying create a way to see his mother. This was a basically uncut story about child abandonment and family. The same type of story that MLP cut because it was too far above the limit that Hasbro placed on the show. I am pretty sure most people can agree that they have seen at least one Disney movie in their life. Hate them or love them Disney is further proof that a story can be good without violence. Especially when that story doesn't have limits on it.Humans don't like limits. We have spent centuries breaking or going past our limits. If you tell someone to create something, but tell them that it has to be a certain way does that mean whatever they create won't be good? No, but it probably could be much better without the limit you placed on them.That is what I was originally trying to argue. MLP:FiM is a decent shot at a good animated show, but in all fairness it is crap because of the limits. It can't go any further than what it already has. As I said before it has lots of wasted potential that could have been used by now if it had no limits."True, the "girl making friends" scenario has been done, but six characters that equally represent a necessary attribute to maintaining peace is original.Characters overcoming internal flaws that contribute to fighting the external conflict is original, especially in a kids' show."This is false. I bring up Sailor Moon and various other shows like it. There will always be stories like this because as I said before "it isn't anything new"."Then he called Faust's concept a good story."Again Pro missed vital information by just scanning through my argument. I said Faust's ORIGINAL concept was good. Going back to limits the show that is presented before us today is only a bit like Faust's original concept. She herself said she left the show because she was sick and tired of being limited by "her bosses"."Q: Lauren, without getting into the details of your departure from the show, is there any possibility of reconciliation and your return to the creative team in some capacity if both parties could come to an understanding? Or are those bridges burned and everything behind you by now?A: I have had a hard time of letting go of MLP, but I really think I have to move on. I hope some of the themes I wanted to explore can be brought into future projects. I think I can do more of what I'd like to if I wasn't restricted to such a very young audience. Making something for kids over 10 would be more satisfying."http://www.equestriadaily.com...She does later go on to saying that she doe like some limits, but as you can see from her very own admission she wanted to so much more with the show that she wasn't allowed to do because the show wasn't made for kids over 10 years."My opponent also agrees that the characters are identifiable.""It is identifiable... Disabled people could easily identify themselves with [Scootaloo]."~Con. Again this is Pro twisting my words. If Pro would have read the full argument he would have seen that I mentioned that because this character is censored a disabled person CAN'T identify with this character. To further prove my point. The same character is seen without any disabilities in the movie "Equestria Girls". Pro missed how it is proven that this character CAN NEVER FLY. That means this character isn't just one who "can't swim yet". Faust's own words is that she is in fact handicapped when it comes to flying. A disabled person would never know this unless they look that bit of information up. The show keeps this a quiet fact. The one episode to sort of mention this fact ends with "MAYBE" not "NO". A word that disabled people dislike, but do accept. As I mentioned though this shouldn't be what defines the character. What should define the character isn't the her flight ability, but who she is as a character. Pro doesn't understand that a disabled person can't identify with a character that even PRO thinks isn't disabled."In an August 2012 summary of an interview with Lauren Faust, it is revealed that Scootaloo was originally intended to be handicapped and would never be able to learn to fly. Faust had conceived a story playing out over three episodes during the first two seasons, during which Scootaloo would learn that her worth is defined by her talents and not by what she cannot do. However, this storyline was evidently dropped.""http://www.youtube.com...;"My opponent is attempting to refute a renowned animator's insight with his own opinions. Regard should not be given to my opponent at all because he's straight-up saying that a world-famous cartoonist is wrong about animation."To counter Pro's statement allow me to quote another "world-famous cartoonist"."You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." - Walt DisneyThe infinite monkey theorem is true. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day" also comes to mind. Which Pro fails to realise. My little pony has been going on long enough to where even if you do hate the show it can still get a chuckle from you every now and then. Sure it could be in part to good writing, but it is also in part that everyone and everything is bound to get something right eventually. Luck in layman's terms."He is using no more than his own personal insight and cruel misinterpretations of sources to make his statements"Hello Pot! My name is Kettle. You are black!Pro is clearly being a hypocrite here. This whole debate is about ones personal insight/opinion, but I am no way "misinterpreting" anything. I am stating facts that I have come accross with research.