Codified Theistic and Spiritual Satanism does not exist.

The Demonic Bible, eh? Well here are some comments from some disorganized Theistic Satanists on the Demonic Bible: http://www.occultforums.com... "Read the free parts for view on line, not impressed. Makes some unprovable claims and assumptions, I tend to switch off at such points." "but on closer inspection dont hold much new" "It seems overly dramatic and fictional to me" "It's basically a mish-mash of Setian and Thelemic philosophy, a few contrived rituals... nothing new." "I will simply ditch "plagiarism" and substitute with "unoriginality."" Exactly. The Demonic Bible is unoriginal, nothing new, fictional, has unprovable claims, and even believes that the Necronomicon is real magic. It is no Bible, jus a personal account of someone and a book that is published by a self-publishing company. Diane Vera you say? Here interpretations of Satanism are either LaVey's form, Temple of Set (which was formed by a rogue member of LaVey's group), First Church of Satan and OFS Demonolatry (FCoS was based off of LaVey's ideal and oFS Demonolatry was somewhat based off of LaVey), Satanism from Christianity (which barely mentions anything to say in the least), Joy of Satan (based from HP Lovecraft fictional writings and Islamic texts), Gnostic Luciferianism (the belief in the angel Lucifer, which was a piece of fiction [Paradise Lost]), and Christian based duo-theism (Satan can "win the war against God" and gain Heaven for him and his followers). She has no originality and makes no new form of Satanism, only those based off of everything else. And she does not recognize your demonic Bible as anything. She even believes that Theistic Satanists should not have any set rules or laws or guidelines. Therefore, she herself thinks that codified Theistic Satanism does not exist. "do we really need a bible or some written text to have a religion?" Yes. Jesus did not exist, so he is not an appropriate example. Actually throughout most of Pakistan and the middle east there were a numerous amount of accounts that told of "messiahs" coming and some people that performed magic, but their religions never flourished. Now, look at the Romans and Greeks this way. They did believe in many Gods, but they were Pagan. And because Paganism never had any real books BACK THEN, they were so easily converted to Christianity because of the Bible that Constantine held and formed. There ideas never stuck because they did not have a religious book. As you see, for ideas to be valid and flourish among a massive group of people, they must have a Bible, which they did not. Neither do the Theistic Satanists, for they deny having one. They do not really exist. They just pretend they do. They use it as a title when really no true Theistic Satanist exists. It is all just a bunch of teenagers that are angry at there parents so they join up with the title out of anger. "He was sentenced to death because of his ideas. Both Jesus' and Socrates' ideas were important/valid before they became codified." Oh yea, he was sentenced to death because no one agreed with his ideas. He was a very unpopular man with him and his ideas. He was important, but not his ideas at the time. Again, Jesus did not exist. There is no proof. There ideas were not valid until they were written down. "Please type in "theistic satanism" to google and tell me you can not find something written by someone." Something can be written by anyone, but it does not mean it is fully codified. "Does writting something down somehow set it in stone more than thinking it?" Yes, for example, the Constitution of the United States of America. Also, money. Do we think through all our money and ours bills? No. We "wrote" them down. ">>Look at Jesus again." I can't because he is not there. "Sweet, can't anything be written in a book?" Yes, unfortunately I said things CAN be credible if they are written in a book. Not they ARE. "Lastly I hand you the demonic bible, there is your evidence, be delighted!" Which nobody liked and everyone hated. "Oh and your own bible, sorry people interpret it in ways you do not like." How can they misinterpret "you are your own God" and "there are no metaphysical or supernatural beings over you"? They must be pretty stupid to think that they mean the opposite of what they say. "to arrange in a systematic collection" You cannot do this by thinking it. Unless you are pure genius, which I don't think you are. "Code: (n) Any system or collection of rules and regulations: a gentleman's code of behavior." Codified and Code are different. A Code is what you say it is. Codified is to reduce a code and make it into laws and rules and not just a code anymore. Yes there could be a Theistic person with a code out there, but it does not mean it is codified. This is why you should vote for me: 1) Disorganized Theistic Satanists and Spiritual Satanist do not believe they should be codified. Therefore, they are not. 2) Although the Con tried to provide evidence of a written version of a Theistic Bible, it was viewed as not really a Bible, rather just a rehash of other people's writings. 3) In order for something to be Codified it must be arranged systematically, reduced to laws and rules, and in other words to be looked at carefully. You cannot arrange or reduce something such as a Constitution in your mind. Therefore it must be written down. But everything that is written down is not credible. It must have an amassing group of followers, which Theistic Satanists fail to prove they have. Therefore, I do not believe they exist. 4) They are not codified in any way according to anyone. These should provide necessary advantage. I have backed up my claims. Oh, and P.S. there is a different between a "Code" and "Codified". Good debate. Thank you for debating me.