Qur'an is fallible

"Stars in the lowest heaven do that, but we have not discovered as far as the first heaven(lowest one), we do not know, we cannot prove nor disprove as I said we have not observed it yet." Then it is not a star. There is a clear understanding of what a star is, and what is being described is not a star. "You know that the Qur'an is in Arabic, not in English, I hope you know that, because the Arabic is the Qur'an, the English is just a translation," Okay, but my question is if it is a book that is easy to understand or not. If it is easy to understand that means that it would also be able to be translated pretty easily. "The Arabic is directly from God and God's word" That is off topic from this debate. "For you yes, unless you know fluent Arabic like me then surely you will" Are you saying that the original Arabic is not that easy to understand so translating it would be ineffective? "As soon as I opened the website I have seen this: "Not all of these planets are confirmed, and there's still a lot to learn about their environments."" Not all are confirmed, correct, but they are already enough to be put on the list. "and it says 10 planets not 21" Shows that you did not read it that carefully. I quote from it, "As of April 2014, the Habitable Exoplanets Catalog lists 21 planets that have the best chance for life beyond our solar system." That is the FIRST sentence in the introduction. The last sentence says, "Here's a list of 10 of the planets we know of that are most likely to host alien life, according to the University of Puerto Rico at Arecibo." They only listed 10, but there are a total of 21. "the 9th planet listed it says: "This planet is a controversial find. It was discovered in 2010, but there has been difficulty in getting it confirmed."" Okay, so they have difficulty with one of the 10 listed out of the 21. "They do not even if there is water, which clearly cuts it out of the picture." Does it? Okay, 2 out of the list of 10 from the total of 21. "and for the 4th: "Depending on its atmosphere, Tau Ceti e could be a mildly hot planet suitable for simple life, or a scorching world like Venus."" And it could be Earth-like, it is still being looked into. That still only takes off 3 planets from a list of 10 out of all 21. 18 total. "1)These planets have not been confirmed." Really? Not all have, but that is because our current technology isn"t the greatest. You cannot say all are not confirmed. "2)One of them probably does not have water." Where do you find "probable does not"? "3)One of them is like Venus(Probably)." Again, where do you get probably? It is a 50/50 chance. "This source is not valid as it contains many doubts." It is because it is being HONEST. Would you rather I find a source that does not talk about the doubts? "Alright what if it is 6 days, it does not measure the day as 24 hour period, unlike the Bible, the Qur'an does not make mention of creation of light, day,night,etc, which clearly eliminates the 24 hour period or 6000 years old earth myth." Definition of a day, "Each of the twenty-four-hour periods, reckoned from one midnight to the next, into which a week, month, or year is divided, and corresponding to a rotation of the earth on its axis" http://www.oxforddictionaries.com... Why refer to it as a day if it was not an actual day? "While the Qur'an mentions embryology I think you have misunderstood and mixed up the Bible and the Qur'an." Qur"an 7:189 "We created man from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape;" Again, implying a form of creationsim. This also ignores the evidence for evolution. "Lizard"" You obviously have read the quotes out of context. "In apomictic parthenogenesis, the offspring are clones of the mother and hence are usually (except for aphids) female. IN THE CASE OF APHIDS, parthenogenetically produced males and females are clones of their mother except that the males lack one of the X chromosomes (XO)." So, no, it is NOT a pair in all animals. "we find that for every elementary particle in the universes there is a special partner called its anti-particle that has the same mass but the opposite electric charge. This is what is called Anti-Matter." Really? There is an anti-Higgs Boson? Yes, there are SOME subatomic particles that have opposites, but not all. "But the underlined is the power of Allah holding up the bird, this is the power of Allah(not all of it of course not even a as small as an hydrogen atom, since Allah is Almighty)." How is it? Science explains it perfectly WITHOUT Allah, so how is it Allah"s power? "Everything was placed in 2 days period, Earth created in 2 days, Allah placed everything in the Earth in 2 days, 2+2=4, 4 days now, keep up." But that is not what it says. It says it took 2 days to create the Earth and 4 days to place everything in the Earth. That is 6 days. Another 2 to create the heavens, that is 8 days total. Let"s look at the verse again: 41:10 "And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance IN FOUR DAYS without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask." The four days is referring to the earlier part of this sentence, which does not include the 2 days that it took to make the Earth. The four days is referring to the mountains placed on the surface and the creatures, not the original 2 days. "I have said it is days as I explained above, since you think that Qur'an has the same errors as the Bible, unfortunately it doesn't." I am not even thinking about the Bible while talking about this. I have pointed out the errors by quoting the Qur"an. "Clearly Allah allows us to believe and disbelief as he has given us free will:" Which makes it ANOTHER contradiction. Qur"an 10:100 "No soul can believe except by the will of Allah" Saying that we CANNOT believe unless Allah wants us to. 18:29 "And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Saying that we can choose. What is it? Do we have the free will to believe or not? The Qur"an has TWO different takes on it. "Same is said for the second supposed contradicitions, clearly the verse above shows existance of free-will." Qur"an 35:8 "Allah leaves stray whom He wills and guides whom He wills" Also, where does evil come from? Qur"an 38:41 "And remember Our servant Job, when he called to his Lord, "Indeed, Satan has touched me with hardship and torment."" From Satan? Qur"an 4:79 "What comes to you of good is from Allah , but what comes to you of evil, [O man], is from yourself. And We have sent you, [O Muhammad], to the people as a messenger, and sufficient is Allah as Witness." From ourselves? Qur"an 4:78 "Wherever you may be, death will overtake you, even if you should be within towers of lofty construction. But if good comes to them, they say, "This is from Allah "; and if evil befalls them, they say, "This is from you." Say, "All [things] are from Allah ." So what is [the matter] with those people that they can hardly understand any statement?" Or is it from Allah? Are all things from Allah like 4:78 says? Is evil from man as 4:79 says? Is it from Satan as said in 38:41? As you can see, there are many contradictions. I will also repost the last part of my first round. "There are many inconsistencies within the Qur"an, both with the external and with the internal. These inconsistencies show that the Qur"an is mistaken, it is fallible. If you still claim it is not fallible, do you think that you need someone to explain the Qur"an? Qur"an 54:17 "And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?" If you wish to say that the Qur"an needs to be explained you are then saying that this part of the Qur"an is incorrect, making the Qur"an fallible."