Pascal's Wager is Infallible

"I can tell you did not read the rule about argument size.." I read it and ignored it. If you want baby sized arguments, limit the character count. "Now, i'm not exercising Ad Populus, i'm simply saying it's probably a wiser choice to beieve in a religion that has existied and had books written about it for thousands of years, than a God that you literally just thought of." You literally just commuted the appeal to the populus fallacy after claiming you would not. Your argument is that lots of people believed it so it is true. " True, but it is still safer to be Theist than Atheist, and that's as far as the Wager goes." You do not understand the wager. General theism does not satisfy the wager, only adherence to Christianity does. When Pascal wrote it, he flippantly dismissed all other religions, but this was a cheat and reveals the major hole in the wager. You need to evaluate the prizes and penalties of all religions that ever existed and figure out which one is the best to even use it. If there is a tie, you run into the perfectly reasonable donkey problem and can't pick. The wager is completely refuted by Thor. The wager is based on the idea that you cannot convince someone that Christianity is true using logic and reason, so you fake it until you make it. This would only work if the options were Christianity and atheism. Since there are other options, the wager is completely dead. " That's your false view of it. It does not waste time, except for around 2 minutes of praying everyday and maybe a few hours at church on sundays. Christianity does NOT promote hate AT ALL, that's just propaganda made up by the Media and hateful Atheist. It does not convince people about their lives having no meaning, because they DO, since God will judge every single one of us and our souls will live on forever." That is still time my dear fellow, time wasted praying to and worshipping a fairy tale. Then it wastes money on the churches. As to not preaching hate, read the Bible, possibly the most hate filled book ever written. If that doesn't work for you, think about Kim Davis, the crusades, the holocaust, general antisemitism, and the Westboro Baptist Church(a church that actually follows the Bible). "Oh God..! I should've put "Rule #8- No Strawman". I NEVER, ever said I believed in God simply because of Pascal's Wager. I'm just saying it's an infallible argument and you are wrong to say it is." Tsk tsk, thou shalt not take thy lord's name in vain. Again, I can tell you never read the actual wager. Pascal very specifically says you fake belief until it becomes part of you. You are debating a topic you do not understand. "But.. BUT, the Bible was written thousands of years ago and is actually meant to be taken seriously. We have Physical proof against the fact that the Spiderman comics are proof of a real Spiderman, because we actually KNOW the people who made it and they have admitted it's for entertainment purposes only. The Bible is simply a hint towards something Theists would believe in, many years ago, We might not know exactly when or what, but it's a hint- which means that it's slightly more possible that a serious, normally portrayed God/Gods exist." In thousands of years, people might say the same things about the Spider Man comics. Stop defending the assertion that something is true because it is in an old book. You are just being stubborn or trying to not "lose" as opposed to caring about what is reasonable. " And you think it's okay to torture someone who worships you forever. I'm just saying that it seems a bit more realistic for someone who is BAD to get tortured forever, instead of someone who is Good." I think that torturing ANYONE forever or even for a brief period is wicked. You believe I will be tortured forever for not being gullible, and you think this is justice since you are a Christian, so in that sense, you are wicked. "So, now you're the one to judge, right? You're changing the subject. You went from trying to disprove Pascal's Wager to Insulting God's morals. You aren't following the rules I gave you.." Your opening had nothing to do with the wager, so I felt free to pick it apart and show how disturbed of a mentality one must have to believe that nonsense. You are the one who started off by going off topic. "Of course not, his horrible deeds are unforgivable and Hitler will never go to heaven for his terrible sins. You, however, could EASILY go to heaven, simply by repenting your disrespect and believing. That's it, no catch. It's really an amazingly good deal." It seems you also don't understand Christianity. I was a Christian for 28 years. The belief is that Heaven is not something you buy your way into with good deeds, you can only get in by accepting the "sacrifice" of Jesus. I can't believe in your fairy tail because there is no good evidence or logic demonstrating that it is true, and even if it were, your god is a monster.