Vainglory Topic: Is Lyra OP

I've been to tier 7 gold and my IGN is MajorGhost2 Rebuttal 1: Her heroic perk depends on how close the hero is in proximity to her. If the hero is far from her they can just use a reflex block to block the slow and then use boots to run away. If the hero is in a close proximity WP heroes like Ringo can effectively. Even if she uses her B, Ringo can just reflex block and continue to stutter step the crap out of Lyra. At most the slow is annoying, but no where close to killing. The problem with her heroic perk is that she easily runs out of energy which prevents her from using her abilities. Rebuttal 2: Against a Lyra, it is wise to be aggressive early game as her abilities take a long time to cool down. SAW can bully her with his basic attacks in Lane if he's weapon power. The B has no effect on SAW's basic attacks, and early game, she won't have her Ult to escape those basic attacks. With Ringo if you can effectively gain his Lucky Shots every minion kill and use them on Lyra early game, she will have to turret farm which is very hard with Lyra early game. That early in the game, her basic attacks are extremely slow, so saying "Ringo will be dead when he reaches her," is extremely unreliable. Alon with that, her basic attacks don't do as much damage, because most Lyra's build a Swift Shooter or Energy Battery first. [1] These items do not deal crystal damage at the beginning. So being aggressive is a must early game. Rebuttal 3: A major flaw in Lyra's A is that heroes can just move out of the range within a second. At the same time, it has no affect against tanky heroes like Lance. SAW can also use his A to run out of the range as well. All heroes can also effectively use their boots to run out of the range of the A. As for Adagio, his A gives health the second he does it unlike Lyra, who's is over time unless immediately detonated. However detonating leaves her without her A and extra boost, along with her extra heal. Pro's fifth point has been refuted. That heroes can just move out of the range. Most Adagios go CP Lane or Jungle so they can heal and buff teammates like SAW or Ringo. Along with that, Adagio's Ult is not affected by her B, doing ton of damage and stunning if CP. Along with his range Lane Adagio can also poke with his A healing minions and doing damage to Lyra. Rebuttal 4: I have already argued that heroes can use reflex blocks or crucible to block her pulse. Even if she teleports out, enemy heroes can follow the portal out negating the entire B. Rebuttal 5: I have given a ton of heroes that can beat her. Especially Adagio, Taka, Catherine, Vox, Lance and Celeste. Rebuttal 6: That was only the first week of EU. Now there are even more accurate stats available. There was a 71.43% win rate in NA proving that she isn't overpowered. For EU it was slightly higher at 73.33%. I have no doubt that she is a strong hero. .. .however there is a difference between strong and overpowered. Strong means she can be beaten, but overpowered doesn't based on the definition I provided for this debate. Arguments of Con's that are faulty or hasn't refuted -She only has 2 counters(I have given many heroes) -My opponent concedes that she is burstable early game which leads to complete shutdown of farm -Lyra's Teleport(In and out): This is faulty because enemy heroes can also use the portal to get out of the B -Con's arguments rely upon her escaping and healing, when during a team fight this is extremely fatal for allies -My opponent continuously uses the Bulwark argument and never considers a reflex block -My opponents argument about Reim is faulty because he's in jungle and during team fights is murderous. He argues that she would win in a 1v1 which happens rarely -Evil 8 Stats: Pro's stats were unreliable as they were for only 1 week out of a possible of 6. -She is easily gankable by say glaive Conclusion: In conclusion, Pro has failed to prove that Lyra is overpowered meaning she can defeat anyone, which I have proven is false with the Evil 8 stats and heroes and strategies that do well against her. I agree that she is strong, but she is not overpowered which was the topic of the debate. For all of these reasons, I strongly urge a Con ballot for this debate. Thank You! [1]. http://www.vaingloryfire.com... [2]. http://vainglorystatistics.com...