Illegal Immigration: Should we deport all illegal immigrants we find in the U.S.

Hey, Harlan, Sorry 4 not rsponding immediatly in my next round about your issues. Slipped my mind. Now about your statement about our ways to crackdown on illegal immigration. Yes, neither of our ways will effiecintly crack down on all immigrants but my way will get the most out of the country will your way will do nothing about the ones already here and make the naturalization numbers skyrocket. To go back to the points I missed in the first round. From your second comment. "The immigrants that have long established life here would be thrust into poverty. Their children would either be orphaned or also put into poverty. Americans would not get the goods and services that they often enjoy, for a long period due to this mass, forced, mass emigration of 5% of our population" Yes they have established life but they have done so illegally. They have broke in through our borders and stolen life and money from us. We would still get the services because people who the illegals took jobs from would fill in the job. there foreign born children would be sent back with them. There american anchor babies should be orphaned and when turn 18 be given the choice of going back to there respective countrys or staying like any dual citizen. To go back to the points you made in your 3rd comment. "The immigrants get to stay. The citizenship they have dreamed of for so long is within grasp. They get to continue living in America , in relative luxury (relative to their alternative). Children stay with their parents. America gets its goods still. Individuals don't have to pay as much for Medicare. With your solution, everyone loses. With mine, everyone wins. This is simply because of the simple principle that my solution changes as little as possible. No drastic swings or monumental changes are made, that would generally disturb the system on many levels are made..." Yes, the immigrants get to stay but they are being rewarded for there crime. They broke into our country ILLEGALLY and live here under false pretenses and they cost us $789,263,000,000, they did the crimes of, breaking and entering, and stealing. And for some they trafficed drugs from there homeland, brought in illegal merchandise and more. They deserve prison time. Deporting them is even leanent. Yes, the children shouldn't be punished for there parents crimes but depending on were they were born they should be treated accordingly. We would still get our goods plus more LEGAL americans get jobs. With my solution AMERICA wins. The criminals lose. Thats how america should be run. If you do something bad you get punished not rewarded (with citizenship). I hope that will suffice for closure on my first argument. Yes, I will admit they are part of the society BUT society is different than a country. at my school our teachers call our grade a society. But does that mean that we are a funtioning body with a goverment and a system. No. Look at the show Survivor. While they are there they are a society of people helping each other out to reach a common goal. The point is that any group of people can be called a society. hence your definition: "a voluntary association of individuals for common ends; especially : an organized group working together or periodically meeting because of common interests, beliefs, or profession" - Merriam-websters.com But they drain our society more with the money they cost us which far outways the work they do which legal Americans can do too. By my changing the subject I am merrly giving examples of Why we have to deport them. No I don't want to deport them out of vengeance I want to deport them because they DON'T belong here. They take major amounts of money from us and take jobs from us. Thats why I want to deport them. Culture is important. With the high amount of illegals our culture is changing. Instead of English or grammer classes ( something many people on this site including myself needs) in middle and elementary we have spanish. we have to deal with explaining and repeating our senteances when we call for a pizza or for a computer problem (something my parents recently experienced) It is more the reason to deport deport deport. and were did I say latino culture promotes poverty. I am unaware if I did but point it out because its not what i meant to say. My next point of my town with the 1/3 illegal rate was a factual guesstimate. It was a gues on my part it may not be right but it isn't to far off. I will give more factual data next time. Hmmm, drugs and alcohol. yes, alcohol is pretty a problem right from the homeland. but what about drugs? Where do the drugs come from? oh yeah illegals will sometimes smuggle drugs through the border selling them to america. (check my facts in the last debate) Illegals also increase debt in our country via taxes which drops stock market and increases cost on houses. What is really FRUSTERATING having to tell you the relevance of my reasons for the debate.