Voluntary Abortion is Immoral - 2nd Attempt

I thank Con for replying. "I don't believe that. Why would you say such a thing? You can't just make that claim without supporting it. You have undertaken to persuade us that abortion is murder. You have the burden of proof. Take this opportunity to educate us. Share your thinking; give us reason to agree with you." I did not make my statement clear and I apologize for not supporting my claim. According to Dictionary.com murder is: the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder). Therefore, abortion is murder because it is the killing of another human being. Why is it a human being? A great many people claim that a zygote is not a human being. However, if that zygote is supposed to become a baby, why isn't it living? Some people say "Well, you don't KNOW it will be born", or "You don't KNOW it will become a fetus." Okay well, we also don't KNOW that a 3-year-old will live to be an adult. Should we say it is, therefore, not living and we can justify killing the 3-year-old? "A human must die? Does a human die when you perform a tonsillectomy? When you trim your hair? When you wear a condom? When you scratch the end of your nose?" I apologize but I do not understand your claim. A human does not die when you perform tonsillectomy. A human does not die when you trim your hair. A human does not die when you wear a condom. A human does not die when you scratch the end of your nose. Please explain. "Well, it might make it acceptable to kill the rapist, but I see what you mean. A zygote is neither a person nor a human being. It's the same with embryos and fetuses, but, since you claim that all abortion is murder, let's limit our discussion to zygotes, fertilized eggs. Is there any reason to consider them to be people? Or to consider them to be human beings? You like the "human being" test, while I prefer the "person" test. If you persuade me that zygotes are people, then I might have to concede the debate to you. If you persuade me that they are human beings, then, in my view, there would need to be another step to your proof. Person vs human being: If a baby were born headless, I would have no problem with dropping it in the trash. Once born, it is a human being, but, if it doesn't have a head, there's obviously nobody home, nobody to suffer an injustice, nobody to feel pain or fear, nobody to prefer life to death. Nothing would be gained by keeping that baby alive; nothing would be harmed by killing it." I have already covered why a zygote, embryo, or fetus is a human being. And your statement about headless babies- I agree with. Obviously, it could serve no purpose and it should be humanely killed. "I grant you that it's wrong to kill six-year-olds. You will grant me, I assume, that there is nothing wrong with killing sperm cells, or unfertilized eggs. This debate is your chance to show us why the PoCs (products of conception, that is, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses) belong in the category with six year old children, and not in the category with the little swimmers bumping against the condom." I do not think it is wrong to wear a condom. The sperm is not yet fertilized and so it is not a human being because it does not share any characteristics of a human. "If a couple doesn't want a baby, they aren't obliged to." Ok, but what if my mother has recently given birth to a baby. It is a boy. I REALLY don't want a brother, so does that justify me killing him? Nothing can ever justify the killing of a human if it is completely innocent and worthy of life. If we let abortion continue, we are just teaching our people to kill to get what they want. Why does the zygote, embryo, or fetus deserve death? It doesn't.