RE:RE Agriculture was mankind's biggest mistake

I am not underestimating the power of technology, I understand that hunter and gathers of 10,000 where not capable of launching satellites. The question isn't what technology they had, but what technology they needed. Why did we start launching satellites? The first satellite was launched into orbit during the cold war. If you look at cell phones, they would be very impractical for a hunter or gather, they would have to be constantly recharged and most are not durable or waterproof. What I am saying is that technology is created for convince we do not need electricity and running water to survive, but it helps. If you and I were told to solve a problem we would probably have different ideas and answers. Hunter and gathers would develop technology that made sense to them, things like genetic engineering and indoor plumbing would be of no use to them. Con also states that technological advancements would occur less because of constant movement and seasonal changes, which I find to be false. Experiencing problems is how they are solved. If the US never had to deal with illegal drug use, there would never be laws about it. People who live in dry areas, like the desert, don't invent waterproof. If I'm a hunter and prey runs away from me because I'm too visible, I invent camouflage. Before hunter and gathers invent satellites to launch into the sky, they would take care of more important things first, like better protection from the elements. Con also mentioned how technological advancements occurred less because of constant movement which is also less true for two reasons. Constant movement means more interactions with other people, cultural diffusion of ideas and technologies, most civilizations did not know about iron until they were destroyed by their enemies whom possessed it. The reason why the Bantu peoples of Africa where able to spread out and migrate further, was because they had iron to clear the land, before they used weaker tools, and once they discovered iron, their migration quickened. Technology was developed on the go, but not all hunter and gathers where on the go, they were not all nomadic like con states. Some tribes stayed in one jungle or forest for generations, hunter and gathers only moved when they had to, if there was no food to be had, they left. Con disproves my claims of a warless time before agriculture with his Crow Indian (Native American) example. His example is valid, but there are important detail to why there where wars. The Crow Indians fought other tribes and the white settlers because of competition due to them being pushed away by the settlers and other tribes, they did not fight each other because one was richer or had different religious or political ideas, they only reason they fought was because of primal needs. Before white settlers arrived in the new world, Indians did not have wars. Cons points about racism and social justice have to do with this. During WWII the US hated the Japanese because they were at war, it only make sense. "Desire, or envy has been proven to be a evolutionary trait in all primates. A study on our closest living evolutionary cousins, the chimpanzees has proven, that envy is a survival mechanism. The study started by giving one chimp a banana, and then giving the other a banana; both was happy. The study than gave one chimp a banana, and the other a grape, the one with the banana refused to eat, an threw away the banana in protest. The reason for envy is that if one primate comes back with a handful of berries, and another comes back with two handfuls of berries, the one with the handful of berries, would try harder to get more berries." If envy if a primal instinct then I guess we would still have it regardless of our lifestyle, what is relevant is how we would deal with our envy, there is more than a few grapes in the world. If disease if spread due to travel then it would occur more in post agricultural times. Caravans had a reason to go back and forth, nomadic hunter and gathers only moved because the animals did. In modern time, we can fly around the world in about a day; it took thousands of years for hunter and gathers to travel across the world. If you know anything about the Black Death, it is that the flies on rats carried the desires. The reason humans where exposed to it was because of the development of cities and communities, rat and mice have become more or less "domesticated", because they can survive off of human waste. Cities where not super sterile back in the day and rodents where everywhere, thus causing everyone in the city to be exposed to it, which is why so many people died from it. Native Americans died so easily to small pox because of the exposer to the European dieses, what took their ancestors thousands of years to do, the settlers did in a matter of months, cross the Atlantic Ocean. When you climb mountains, like Mt. Everest, you have to spend time at check points, so that you can allow your body to adapt to the thinner air. I have no new point to address for this round, for round four, I will address Cons issue with overpopulation and inclined competition.