LM Classic Puck vs. Ragnar Rahl

"A taxxon hive is, in essence, a sentient building. The one I picked (the one from the alternate future in Animorphs number 7) arose in the husk of an average American mall. It might eventually grow to planet-size proportions, but it's rather young at present, and that probably takes a while. The fight won't last long enough to break the rule about exiting the city. It is no collective, it is one living being that happens to also be a fixed structure. Like a tree, but in the animal kingdom :). The fact that it has natural symbiotes somewhere else is of little consequence, it's a big creature, it probably doesn't need fed or anything for the course of a battle. Incidentally, as a building, a mall, in New York City... hmmm, buildings are usually considered part of the city, are they not?" Several concerns arise from the use of the Taxxon Hive - as a living entity arising from rubble, the term 'building' is ambiguous. I realise in this instance they in essence appear and function as a mall, for I guess the purpose of brain slug implanting. If it arises from rubble, it is still an entity on its own right, and not a NY building - or I could hollow out a tree, pile my team in and call myself as being in a defensive invulnerable position. I could sell cupcakes from it and call it a shop. Deadpool could even dress it up as one. It violates the canon: as its invulnerable ability do not arise from Animorphs - rather the specific instances of the tournament. It would be akin to taking Jack Hawkmoor as a character - the Spirit of Cities - and being granted insta-invulnerability as a result. It violates the rules: 2. No team member may have unlimited abilities in one or more particular areas. http://www.debate.org... - linked by LM as the example of a UTB debate. Unfortunately - invulnerable is an unlimited ability. "My other team members are within an invulnerable body. Fat lotta good the bullets and viruses and nanites and swords do ya. The hive is part of the city. The city cannot be destroyed in whole or in part." Even if given the Hive exterior is closed off - the interior is not solid. Spiral, Deadpool both have transportation that allow all team members entry. Opposing characters are still not safe inside. Angela's nanites would eventually find them all. Even if the insides shift constantly, the space inside is limited. Battle would still commence, or Engineer can pick them off one by one with tranquilisers, viruses, electric shock etc. "As demonstrated in Temple of the Winds, when Richard Rahl temporarily travels to the underworld, his power to protect those loyal to him from the Dream Walker is not intact, because he is no longer in the same world as they. Several of his followers become controlled again as a result [...] Each and every one of your players is at Emperor Jagang's mercy. The ability can be done at any distance and for whatever reason requires no foreknowledge of one's opponent's location (The books several times involve Jagang taking control of people whose location he cannot possibly know before the control). Even Spiral's supposed "immunity to possession" is, according to this : http://en.allexperts.com......(comics).htm immunity to some types of PSIONIC possession, not dream walker magic-- Rogue's abilities are the result of a genetic mutation, and thus presumably relate to some scientific principle of energy in the Marvel universe rather than being comparable to Dream Walker abilities." Not knowing where my characters are is not akin to knowing that they are. Presumably Jagang does not have omnipotence in regards to all life - i.e. it does him no good if he is not aware that my characters even exist - if he has no instance of thought as to who his possession should target. In Jagang's world, magic is called the Gift, and Jagang's ability of the dreamwalker was created specifically during the Great War, by wizards of that world to the tune of that world's magic. Much like Marvel physics isn't the same as DC physics, one can't assume that the term 'magic' is a single catch all phrase that denotes the one source. The dreamwalker ability that is useful him in his world, is part of its creation by wizards using the type of magic of that world to the tune of the magic of that world - Spiral's magic is of dimensional origin (explained later), it's source, structure etc., are fundamentally different, thus the same vulnerabilities cannot be assumed. Spiral's immunity can still be considered valid - at least for now. "Matter of fact, Spiral's the easiest to take over, since she has magic of some sort. In the unlikely event Puck proves her immunity would apply to Jagang's magic, he figures this out quickly and picks a different targetotherwise... Jagang takes her over." Spiral's possession is explained for now - however the instance Jagang attempts mind control, his presence would become aware to Sinister - ranked as one of highest level telepaths of Marvel (http://www.comicvine.com...) - as it is Jagang himself in some manner who attempts the possession - he is after all attempting to step into others minds i.e. his presence in some manner. Any nearby invading mental presence whether directed at him or other team members would be engaged with. Though magic based, a mental assault is still that - to assume simply because it is magic based therefore somehow immune would be erroneous as the basics of mental control remain. Sinister has bettered mental assaults from Psylocke, Madelyne Pryor, Jean Grey all of whom possess on par the ability of Jagang. http://img228.imageshack.us... Furthermore, power engaged with Sinister, can be returned to sender, with additional power. The team is down bar perhaps Oba with his void of magic. At minimum, Jagang's ability is held at bay. http://img443.imageshack.us... http://img228.imageshack.us... "I'll let Puck try tell me what happens when Spiral attempts using her immbolization magic on every member of Puck's team but herself around without a moment of warning and we'll go from there (In other words, how good and fast a caster did you pick?" Even if all remains, Spiral's dimensional magic requires for the most part the use of complex rituals (dance) to extract the necessary power. Quick fire team paralysis is out. http://img228.imageshack.us...