Physical abuse as a punishment for children

Given the other ways to teach your child discipline, these are not as effective in my opinion. It is known that that parents do hit their kids, that has been going on for centuries. Just because people do not openly state that they beat their children, does not mean it does not happen. Furthermore, the taking away of things does not promote any sort of discipline. Those from the old school days would know what I am referring to when I say " the look". This was a term that was used to describe a look that was given by a parent right before a spanking. The only reason the spanking occured was because the child had done something wrong. When you take away a childs toys or cellphones, that simply gives them a means of doing something else while they are not using the item which was taken from them. Also, with that statistic you posted, it is a good counter point, yet becuase there are not many known sites to me, I can not counter your point about what percentage of children, due to do beatings have not gone down a wrong path. I am trying to say, that just because you take away someones belongings does not mean they know what is right or wrong. They can survive without this item, so it does not make a huge difference to them whether they posses it or not. On the other hand, if a parent gives the child a look, they would probably be less likely to attempt the same thing or anything else that would lead them to believe that they would get spanked. That is what is called " the look", this is due to the spanking they recieved earlier. In a sense, it is out of fear that the child would not do any wrong, but this is also out of respect. In the old days, you knew if you came home pass your curfew, regardless of time or presence of an adult, they knew what time you came home, and what to expect if not that very moment then in the morning. This is not a bad thing, it is perfectly ok to discipline your child in this fashion, the key is to not over due it. That is the same with anything in life, when you consume something or do something more than you should, the consequences are very bad indeed. In the same sense though, what evidence is there that promotes that even without the spanking, the child does not turn out to be a rapist, deliquent, murder? Atleast, with some type of discipline you can avoid some of these issues. When you take away something of someones, they will try to replace it with something else, or to attempt to take back what was originally theres. This in turn could make your child a theif, or even angry that their toy was taken from them, which can cause you to get attacked by your very own child. They are young yes, but defenseless no. They can always call the police in cases of very bad abuse or DYFUS. Children do have a means to retaliate and some do. The situation then is something that is not desireable. When you do attemp to take away that childs item, how many do you take? Would you take them all? If that is the case then perhaps the child will look at it as a game, and see how many items you can carry or take from them. Also this might lead them to develop phsychological problems, like making up imaginary friends who wish them to do wrong, or tell them explicity that it is ok. With this type of behavoir, you might be convinced it is a phase the child is going through, and thus not want to punish them. With that, you would most likely not want to discipline them, because let's face it..we all have had imaginary friends, whether they said do wrong or right is on the person. So is it really ok to just take away your childs belongings and leave them to themselves to inflict harm on their bodies? This is another real possiblity, that because the parent took their toys away, they are being punished but also not loved for it. A spanking can be reasonable, since you as a parent can explain why you are spanking them.