Banning the Sale Of Guns From Stores(REUPLDOAD)

Something interesting I just learned--most pistols and handguns are semiautomatic. I wasn't aware of this before but now I am. Banning all semis would basically be banning almost all guns which won't work at all. Before I realized what a semiautomatic gun was, my argument was not intended to limit the debate so I could get out of research. I have the right to my opinion. If I felt that we should ban only semis, that's okay. And besides, it's not like I only debated semiautomatic guns. I engaged with your points so I feel like your "Kritiks" are kind of misguided. But anyway, my view is different now so here goes. I believe that better regulation and control of guns is what we need. Not a million laws, but better laws. =================================================================== "Your evidence is from ScienceAlert. No problems here." Sarcasm? "This can not be applied to a debate in the U.S.A." Actually, one of the countries was America. This is from R3: "...across 10 different countries, including the US, Australia, Brazil, South Africa, and Austria..." I feel like you summed up my conclusions to fit your argument better... 1. This isn't actually what I said. I never mentioned dedicating a term to gun control laws. I said we need an overhaul. This is from my round 3 evidence: "After analysing all of these studies, the researchers came up with three conclusions: It usually takes major legislation overhaul - not just one new law - to see significant change." 2. I never said that we should restrict guns to certain people but I'll talk about that soon. 3. Fine. Here's some more evidence: 1. "Making it easier to carry concealed guns increases the number of gun homicides. States that have so-called right-to-carry laws require them to issue concealed-carry permits to anyone who is allowed to own guns and meets the necessary conditions. Many people have argued that right-to-carry laws deter crime because there would be more armed people around to stop a shooter. Though that idea was supported by a controversial 1997 analysis, recent and more thorough analyses have found the opposite effect. One recent study found that such laws increased the rate of firearm homicides by 9% when homicide rates were compared state-by-state. That could be because confrontations were more likely to escalate to a shooting, or because there were more guns around that could be stolen, or some other factor." If we made it harder to have a concealed gun, we would have lower homicide rates. 2. "Barring people convicted of domestic abuse from owning guns has a huge effect on the number of gun deaths. The so-called Lautenberg amendment to the 1968 Gun Control Act disqualifies people with a misdemeanor conviction for domestic violence from buying or owning weapons. Researchers found that gun murders of female intimate partners decreased by 17% as a result of the amendment." Barring people from guns works. People who are known to be irresponsible or dangerous shouldn't have guns. Murder rate decrease when we do. 3. "Laws that call for longer sentences for gun crimes also seem to help a little. Gun-robbery rates have gone down in states that have approved longer sentences for assault or robbery with a gun. In the 1970s and 1980s, there were 30 "add-on" sentencing laws calling for additional prison time for people convicted of robbery or assault with a gun. A 40-year-analysis found that gun-robbery rates dropped by about 5% in the years after the sentencing laws were enacted." http://www.businessinsider.com... 4. Gun Restraining Orders "One policy idea, though, is being met with rare consensus by both advocates for gun control and gun rights: gun violence restraining orders (GVRO), in which law enforcement agencies, families and household members can quickly remove firearms from individuals deemed unstable or unfit to own them... Although each case is different, they share a common thread: The gun owner"s behavior was irresponsible and potentially lethal, echoing countless news reports of similar situations in which shots were fired and lives were lost. Take that drunken target shooter firing away in his densely populated neighborhood: How often have you heard of a recklessly fired bullet penetrating a wall and killing a child?" https://www.washingtonpost.com... Okay, now on to rebuttals. "Politicians will not dedicate 2-4 years of their time on one bill..." I never said anything about a term but regardless, this argument could be used against you. What kind of Republican-controlled Congress would agree to ban all guns from being sold in stores? Such a bill wouldn't even be debated! These people get angry when you raise the minimum age for ownership, you think they're going to let you ban them completely from stores? "2 There are still ways that people will get around the regulations." This can be applied to banning all guns--the black market is a way to get around it. But even then, making people show IDs is just one example of gun control. And with the evidence I provided, you can see there would be a lot more than just: "Hey you, show me your ID and I'll let you buy this gun." "We need more research on gun regulations." See above. We already have researched gun control. Extend my Round 3 arguments. It works. "...Cali is #1 on the strict scale, yet they are home to some of the most deadly mass shootings." Strict only compared to the rest of the U.S. And the rest of the U.S. is not the best scale to define strict on... Okay, you have GOT to stop with this self-defense argument. 1. Learning MMA, Karate, Boxing and being good at it takes time. At least being able to fight a criminal (who could have a gun) takes time. It also costs money. Not everyone has this kind of money. 2. You could use a knife but what if they have a gun? Or better yet, what if they also have a knife? Yay, a knife fight. 3. You cannot ALWAYS disarm a robber. As I said, what if they are ten feet away and have a gun? What, are you going to run and take it away before they shoot you? I hope you're fast. Not all shooters are stupid. In Florida, the guy pulled the fire alarm so he"d have an easy shot. Yes, that"s sickening but having a twisted mind doesn"t mean you"re dumb. Besides, you yourself opened up this debate to any kind of gun violence, not just school shooters. But here: "Legally owned guns are frequently stolen and used by criminals. A June 2013 Institute of Medicine (IOM) report states that "[a]lmost all guns used in criminal acts enter circulation via initial legal transaction." [18] Between 2005 and 2010, 1.4 million guns were stolen from US homes during property crimes (including burglary and car theft), a yearly average of 232,400." https://gun-control.procon.org... Literally, if we ban guns from being sold in stores, we still have a circulating 300M guns. These guys could steal them. But even if you don"t buy that, it isn"t just school shooters who kill people with guns. Criminals and gang members get them illegally. And it could be from places like Mexico, not necessarily China or Taiwan" I don"t get your argument. The shooter in Florida"s parents didn"t know he was so twisted. They thought he was sad, not evil. People learn about guns from places other than their parents. I certainly didn"t learn about guns from my mom. I got it from the media. You can"t just say: "Well yeah, we have a lot of guns but kids and parents need to be better." "The dealer would eventually get caught"" Actually, our government is infamous for NOT tracking the people who buy guns (plus these guns are illegal so they wouldn"t be in the system under the criminals" names). People often look to Switzerland who records every gun purchase as opposed to the U.S. that isn"t too good at that. Bush and 9/11 Let's just stop this arguing this.