The average girl is less into music than the average boy

Now, we are in full debate as Con is now defending her love for music. In round one, I have clearly said that we are making a distinction between music and "decorations", lyrics being one of those. Lyrics to a song are poetry that make a song better, but do not affect the music in any way. Referencing to the title of this debate, it should be clear why lyrics do not matter to a true music lover! But still, Con clearly judged songs partially by lyrics. That was actually what the first round was for: to see why she picked those specific songs, to see what she takes into account when talking music. Now, Con has said that she does not want to "bore" me with "each bar, not and scale of every song". However, saying that you really like the melody would have been enough. But Con clearly seemed to be more fascinated by lyrics than by melody! Con would also like to argue about lyrics being important, even more, vital to a song. Here, I must remind her that this is not what we are debating and this can't even be debated: as a musician you probably put a lot of time in your lyrics, but you were writing poetry and not music. Also, plenty of musicians like R.E.M. and Radiohead have reached the top with lyrics that are very simple. It shows that lyrics are NOT vital to music, but merely a decoration to make the song better. Returning to Con(s songs: 1) Passion pit Association is definately important. However, boys tend to show value for music in the objective sense as well. At least more than girls. This is proven by the fact that boys are capable of listening to rough music with ugly vocals, why boys are capable to completely ignore the lyrics and why boys are more likely to create there own music. (can't prove this, but if we look around we see more boys in bands than girls. Generally speaking, ofcourse.) To answer your question "... why pro thinks that it should be unlikely for a girl to pay attention to the build up of a modern dance song?": I said "a song like this" and not a "modern dance song". That matters a lot, as this type of song would not be played in disco's (at least not where I go). This definately is the type of song that you can listen to and enjoy without doing any other activity. That's why it is strange to pay attention to build-ups in music! 2) Modest mouse Lyrics seem to be a point to discuss. However, I don't really see my opponent's point here: are lyrics truly more than just poetry? See comments above! and regarding the "song" you posted, this literally has no melody and the (changing!) rhythm is used solely as a back up for the poetry. This was not meant in a musical way, obviously, but was poetry. 3) all the others "no comment" -> Con concedes? Con's reply to my questions! 1. Best song of all time? Opponent proposes a song for lyrical reasons again... And, I hope the voters will agree that there isn't much melody to this. However, I can do very little with you saying that you cannot choose a best song of all time as you say there isn't one. I kindof hoped you would simply give me a beatles song or something that would show you do know what the "top dogs" among music are, regardless of the fact that you can't really choose a number one.. 2. What do you do when you listen to music? This question was kind of a trap - you named all sorts of situations, while "nothing" was an answer you'd expect from a big music fan. Not trying to insult you, everyone listens to music while doing activities as well! But is there really no daily time for you to simply wander through songs on youtube, or just lay on your bed with music playing? The fact that my opponent did not mention the pure activity "listening to music" should be taken into consideration... 3. The opinion on the offered songs? The Go! team -> the "1,2,3,4" is indeed a decoration, but the only one. It was inserted as a transition, but please do forget that small decoration! I really wanted to hear your opinion on a song with so little decorations overall. Massive attack -> opponent seems to enjoy the melody, but says it is too repetetive and drags on too long. So is she bored by hearing solely a good melody with very little variety? 4. Lovesong original or cover? Opponent chose decorations (adele's vocals, and simplified background tracks) over the original artistic feelings associated with it. Agreed that the decorations in the cover are better, which would make for an overall better song, but most of the melodic lines in the original literally dissapear. For that reason, you should consider the original music superior!