The Book of Leviticus Contains Many Silly Ideas

Wow! That was again a refusal of the evidence and a personal barb. I do feel the need to address the personal barb. To the audience and Tarzan- By us both using this debate forum and agreement in meeting in this forum we both agree to the rules and constraints of this forum equally. This debate forum allows lengthy sources and video embeddes into the debate. This is not against this particular debate forum. We are equally restricted by characters and equally open to using videos as sources. (Some debate forums allow a projector for information in the background. Some do not. A person can use the projector or not. I did not and do not see a difference in utilizing the forum allowances.) He is attempting to poison the well against me despite the fact we both agreed to debate on this forum. http://www.nizkor.org... Due to Tarzan's weak attention span (he did not read my sources) a video that had more entertainment value was necessary and forced him to focus in an orderly fashion on the information presented rather than skimming the information with his "vast attention span." Third - there was not a comprehensive source detailing the necessary information that was specifically targeted to Tarzan's debate concepts. Anything that does not "spell it out quickly" for Tarzan, he ignores. The debate resolution and information developed the need for creating one. I have a degree in this specific field of study and I have an understanding of the reasons for each of the laws of Leviticus, I am a source that is quotable. To summarize All of Tarzan's Rebuttal: >> "We also see that you have no knowledge of the Culture of Middle Eastern Judaism in Africa at the 2500-3500 B.C. timeframe." Knowledge of just HOW silly the culture was doesn't really help..." I really drew out for the audience and Tarzan both, the need for study. Simply put Tarzan feels he can make assertions about the Bible without this need. This summarizes the sum total of knowledge in his rebuttal and saddens me greatly. Nothing in his rebuttal contained knowledge. Fallacy: Tarzan believes knowledge is important to make all assertions. He is "special pleading" He has made an assertion without knowledge. This is ok because he does not need to know "silliness" because the subject matter is silly. Thus you should believe him because he does not need knowledge of silliness. http://www.nizkor.org... >> "Do you ignore the Mechanic's teacher when your car mechanic's teacher says something? Might he have bearing on your mechanic's statement?" That makes no sense... if the mechanic's teacher told me the car ran on potatoes, toenails, and lizard farts, I'd consider him a fairly incompetent teacher. This second statement summarizes his understanding of logic. In no way does this form of logic dictate anything. Clearly if the Mechanics teacher did such a thing he would not be a Mechanic. Clearly a straw man as the Bible claims God's authorship and intent, it is "your" claim that the mechanics teacher is doing so. Also it is CIRCULAR reasoning – You are starting with an assumption of Leviticus being silly and this is predicated on your belief of Leviticus being (not just appearing) silly, so authors that explain how it is NOT silly are thus silly, because they wrote silly Leviticus. What this boils down to is that you do not believe these men were sent from God. You are critiquing information about God when you have no knowledge about God, the men he sent, the information he gives, and the reasons he gives them. You claim Christianity is biased but have no knowledge of what Christians assert or even what the Bible says, how it was written or what the logical "consequences" are from those statements. The third fallacy is the entirety of this debate. Basically Tarzan is claiming to be an authority (when he is not) and making a claim on the information in Leviticus. That is a fallacy. http://www.nizkor.org... The fourth fallacy is also the entirety of this debate. It is a "layered" composition fallacy. Tarzan states Leviticus is silly because of A,B,C which he has no knowledge of or understanding (He claims himself as authority). This predicates the Bible is not real. If the Bible is not real because Leviticus is silly, then Leviticus is even more silly and he does not need to know about the history of the silly authors, the reasons for silly laws to become an informed authority! Thus Leviticus is silly because all of the things pertaining to Leviticus about Leviticus is written from silly authors… because Tarzan states they are silly. No information here just absurd assertions. http://www.nizkor.org... Severally warped reasoning – He just ignores my entire informational sources (the video and websites) and says "because I do not understand how this points to holiness, purity and the Messiah it must not be true." To directly address the points again: God created all of these symbols for the people who lived them to meditate on them. All of the other god's were made of wood stone or Metal. The Golden Calf incident in Exodus directly showed that is how the people "thought" of God. God said no statue will do. My presence and representation will be performed by an entire nation, people and history. Think about the ramifications. The major atheist and agnostic assertion states that "If God were real we would see him manifested." God states "you as a nation and people will manifest me. You will be my representation to teach people about me, you will be my impact on History and you as a people will show my character, through your successes and your failures to live out my laws." This was meant to be a lifestyle of thought and reason. Nothing you did was arbitrary. It was for a specific purpose. If you touched a dead corpse and then you had to cleanse yourself with a lengthy ritual. This is how you meditated on the cleanliness and purity of God with severely drawn out impact. As you go through the Bible read how many times you find meditating (dwell and consider) on the Bible and the Laws. When you consider what each one of them was teaching… you see the reason. The address is on the video. You can choose to watch this. I have put forth they, unclean things, represent God's cleanliness and relationship to him. The burning represents God's acceptance in the Hebrew cultural language etc. The symbols that the laws represent a Holy God and our relationship to Him, and the symbolic actions represent the coming Messiah that would take away the sins of the world that the sacrifices could not do. All points fall under those headings. All my opponent states is "nuh uh!" "It has nothing to do with silliness." Moses was trained as a Prince of Egypt, one of the most knowledgeable societies in history. So advanced that people even put forth that Aliens made all of their mega structures, which we cannot duplicate yet today. They were severely advanced and Moses had a greater understanding of mathematics and law than most today. Deuteronomy was written as an ancient Assyrian legal document! Study on how much information they knew about cosmology and math building tech. The pictures are showing the difference in culture, their wealth oppulance and their worldview. It is nothing like we have today. Their worldview was completely different. My Video – http://www.godtube.com... Stoneworking and Mega structures - http://www.livescience.com...