Homosexual Marriage

"My religion is Atheist. I feel it is best not to get involved in religion, and if I get sent to hell for it, I frankly don't care. I'd rather spend an eternity down there thank surrounded in heaven, by people who hate me." In Judaism, we don't believe in bell, we believe in a place where bad people get punished for their wrongdoings (what kind of God would he be if he let people get away with whatever), but it's called Gehenna, and you stay there for one year at most and you get punished for wrongdoings, not not believing in God. So the religious Christian jerks who hate atheists would go to Gehenna until they learn to treat people better, not you, meaning heaven won't be filled with people that hate you, and you're not going to shell, at worst your going to Gehenna. "I see more of how it turns out, for I usually engage in more debates: Con: It's against my religion, therefor it is justified that it shall not be justified. Pro: You've been blindly lead to the conclusion of god hating homosexuals, and quoting the Bible won't help. Con: He still says it's a sin, and I will still keep this conclusion, for I am blindly led by religion. Pro: He may say it's a sin, but according to those sins, you've sinned a lot too, and we both know that some sins can't be put above other sins. So we both, sin and if we don't repent, we go to hell. But of course I don't believe in him, so all I know, is that I'm going in the ground. Con:But all the facts lead to there being a god. Pro:What facts? Con: Uh... The book says you know he's real, so using that logic, he is real. Pro: ._. What? That's like saying superman is real in a superman comic book. Con: You're going to hell. Pro: Your religion says that you shall love all gods children equally, so you probably are too." Yours is pretty accurate. "How are the homosexuals exactly violating the the "terms of use"?" Because the Torah is the oldest document holding the claim to marriage, there for the rights to marriage belong to the Torah, part of its definition of marriage is that it is between a man and a woman, there for the homosexuals are using marriage improperly, there for violating a patent. "Incest: Homosexuality is not even close to bestiality or incest. Homosexuals stick to the same species, the human race. Bestiality is when someone has sexual attraction to an animal, that they think they have chauvinistic control over. People are not born with the urge to have sex with animals, but are just... experimenting. They take superiority over the animal, and force it to do what they want, pretty much. Incest, according to your religion, has been around since god created the Earth. And incest can cause serious health defects in a child born through it. Homosexuals however can't reproduce with the same sex, and as long as they aren't closely related to each other, no one should care if they have intimacy in the bedroom. Defining people by the sex they have is perverted." I could say bestiality is nowhere close to homosexuality because at least the people who practice bestiality stick to the same gender, you see how this works? I could also say the gay people are just experimenting and were not born gay either. As far as incest is concerned, it isn't immoral just because of the genetic defects, it's immoral because you have to have a really tainted mind to look at your siblings as attractive, just like you would have to have a really tainted mind to look at people of the same gender as attractive. "Most will call us perverted for having anal sex, when it's really used in both sexualities. Same goes with oral, and anal oral (tossing salad). Again, saying two men (we're sticking with men for now, seeing as this is the gender most people have a problem with being gay) should not be able to get married to to the type of sex they have is just wrong. And us not being able to reproduce, helps cut down on overpopulation. So your main reason is religion. If everyone doesn't believe in one religion, why do we follow that one, and not another one. Let's say I make up a religion and a billion people follow it. It says that one shall not have a religion based on a god, but however, on evolution. If that gets passed into law, how do you feel?At that point, it would be a valid religion, so there's no reason why they couldn't put it into law, right? Wrong. It goes against peoples rights to be able to have their own beliefs. Your religion, which should be believed by all, or at least followed by all, goes against homosexuals civil rights and liberties. It says they shouldn't be able to have a relationship with another human." Well actually passing that law would undermine the universal right to the freedom of idea, preventing homosexuals from having a certain kind of marriage is not undermining any liberties, there is no fundamental right to marriage. According to John Locke, there are 3 fundamental rights, Life, Liberty, and Property, I separated them into 10 fundamental rights, but the point is, marriage is not on either lists, there for not a fundamental right. And I am not advocating for homosexuals to lost their civil liberties, by all means they should have them, the right to life, the right to liberty, the right to property, the right to idea, the right to bear arms etc, no one is violating these any more than they are to everyone else. And as far as relationships are concerned, I agree partially, we should not arrest gay people for having relations, I am only advocating that the goveronment should not acknowledge their relationships. "Moving onto "the choice" and the "lifestyle". Saying that homosexuality is a choice, is equivalent being said about heterosexuality. So once you accept that it was a choice, I will. But we all know it's not. The love I feel does not directly affect you are your religion in any way. You won't get harmed by it, God won't get harmed by it, and if he really hates us for loving another human, send us to hell. If homosexuality is cursed upon us by the devil, there shouldn't be an excuse why god shouldn't be able to get rid of that along with diseases. The Bible is simply a book of fairy tales that has an antagonist that is someone more powerful than the most powerful person, and a protagonist who can't get around the fact that love is love and that some people are different. You know, I'd think he would know that if he actually created us." What is this with you and hell? There's no such thing as shell, only Gehenna, so the gay people are going to Gegenna for I don't know how long, unless they change, but if not, they will have to serve their punishment out. Anyway, love is love is a ridiculous statement, by that logic, adultery and cheating on your wife is OK too because love is love! Or it's not hurting anyone, or I can't help it! I was born this way! Same old same old excuses, when the Nazis got caught, all the Nazi officers said the same thing, I don't have a choice, I was told too, not my fault. And some people are different, so? Being different doesn't make you unable to resist sinning, for example, I was born a human, there for I was born with the ability to get angry, there for I can kill because they- I was born this way, I can't help getting angry. But I can help , acting upon it, just like the homosexuals.