Religion, Atheism, and Science are Dead Wrong About Reality

" DAVID ROCKEFELLER, one of the most powerful men in the world (Honorary Chairman of Council on Foreign Relations, high ranking member of the Bilderberg Group (most powerful elite organization in the world), and founder of the Trilateral Commission. He said in his book Memoirs: "Some even believe we are part of a SECRET CABAL working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of CONSPIRING with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - ONE WORLD, if you will. If that's the charge, I STAND GUILTY, AND I AM PROUD OF IT."" Globalization and this Illuminati crap are two completely different things. The former is simply prudent policy given the economic fact that a wider market can expand a production possibilities curve. " "The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. None is fitter than the three lower degrees of Freemasonry; the public is accustomed to it, expects little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it" - Adam Weishaupt (Founder of the Bavarian Illuminati)" Performative contradiction. If it was concealed, you wouldn't have heard this quote. He's stroking his ego unjustifiably. That is all. " My research has shown this to be true. Illuminati Grand Master, Leo Lyon Zagami of the Italian aristocratic bloodline, said this in an interview." Which does not contradict the more likely explanation that he is a wannabe. ". Also books written by Jim Marrs and David Icke demonstrate this to be true." Also does not contradict the above. "Leo Zagami has also said that secret societies are responsible for manipulating religious texts since the ancient times " Fail. If they actually did it, they wouldn't say it. If they do say it, the only rational explanation is that they are lying. " Woah, you've got to be kidding me. The Knights Templar and Freemasons were Christians!? That is outragious! The Knights Templar may have been responsible for Christianity, but in actuallity, worship Luciferic deities, and burn crosses." The Knights Templar were an officially Christian order, your unsourced accusations being irrelevant as they are just that, unsourced. "The Freemasons are like the continuation of the Celtic Druids who date back to the destruction of Atlantis" There is no evidence that Atlantis ever existed, fail. I should correct myself-- most, not all, Masons were Christian. "George Washington was a mason. " Irrelevant to my point-- he was a mason because he was already George Washington-- being a mason was not instrumental to his becoming the George Washington we know. "The Freemason logo is even on the Statue of Liberty! LOOK AT THE BACK OF A DOLLAR BILL!" Apparently you don't understand the nature of dollar bills. They are worthless pieces of paper, it is fairly obvious that their value relies on a mix of coercion and conning, conning being the more efficient method to the extent it can be pulled off. Such conning is eased by giving people stupid pointless meaningless symbols to puzzle over. The Statue of Liberty, being a lie of much the same caliber (since America has never lived up to the promise of liberty, however close it has come at times), also has its value aided by such stupid pointless meaningless symbols. " Freemasons don't have to research. They are the keepers of this forbidden knowledge." How the heck do you think someone gets knowledge to forbid it in the first place if they don't work on learning it? "33rd Degree Freemason and historian, Manly P. Hall, has written a book entitled, "The Secret Teachings of All Ages"" Another laughable performative contradiction. " I don't care about all this semantic criticism. You know what I mean." When you are attempting a logical argument, you need to care what the meaning of your words are. The only reason not to care is if they mean nothing-- and if it is indeed true that I know what you mean, as you have just conceded, you mean nothing at all except "Hello, I believe whatever someone tells me as long as it sounds completely impossible!" " He said this in his interview with Ben Stein." AAAAaaaaannnddd... you ignore the important part. " No reason to believe in ETs? Much of my knowledge comes from extraterrestrial wisdom. " You're contradicting yourself again. Either a, we HAVE searched the spectrums in which the ETs exist, and found them-- or b, you have never learned a darn thing from them. " The faster the vibration = the higher the frequency = the less dense." I see we're talking about two different frequencies here. ""I have been convinced that we, as an Order, have come under the power of some very evil occult Order, profoundly versed in science both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being BLACK MAGIC, that is to say, ELECTRO-MAGNETIC POWER, hypnotism and powerful suggestion. We are convinced that the Order is being controlled by some Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that Order itself." - The Duke of Brunswick (Grand Master of World Freemasonry) Scalar weaponry is in the hands of HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program). " Ya think maybe ya can come up with a source who ISN'T clearly motivated to lie to make themselves look important? " Tell that to Dr. Michio Kaku, an authoratative by your standards." By my standards, in an issue of metaphysics, there ARE NO AUTHORITIES. There is only logic and data to be tested with it. Authority should only be appealed to when a-- it does not contradict the law of identity and b-- it refers to a specific, EMPIRICAL specialization. I think you've made the false assumption that I trust theoretical physicists. By and large, since their work is so frequently detached from any empirical testing, I do not consider their work to be science. " And not to mention the fact that the Pleiadians and the Andromedans also confirm that there are in fact multiple dimensions, a multiverse, and the fact that God is infinite energy (consciousness). These ET's are about 50,000 years more advanced than us. We are the new kids on the block in this universe. You want to claim superior intellect to the Pleiadians and Andromedans?" I definitely claim superior intellect to anything which doesn't exist, which is the case for all the evidence you've shown us :). "Your view of reality is the result of interdimensional control and manipulation from the Reptilians, some of which who reside 100 miles into hollow earth. " The earth isn't hollow, or we would have either an easier or a harder time mining it, depending on how much was hollow. " Superstring theorists have worked it out mathematically and it checks out. " That is not an answer. An answer is a concise argument, where they work with empirical data, input it into empirically derived models, and derived results in meaningful language-- anything short of that is, frankly, bull**** until reason is given to believe otherwise. " In conclusion, don't dismiss anything without proper research. The lie is the norm, the truth is obscure. "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." " In conclusion, never accept anything without proper research. The lie is the norm, the truth often obscure. "Acceptance without investigation is the height of ignorance." Fix'd to conform with logic 101. My opponent contradicts himself, of course-- his beliefs are clearly articles of faith, and systematic, and thus religion-- therefore, he is simultenously claiming the truth and falsehood of religion.