most people know right from wrong.

my apologies for thinking you said morality is based on science. sometimes i skip a word when reading and dont know ive done it. its been happening ever since the accident. your right. morality is a philosophical concept. a philosophical concept that everybody disagrees on. the majority of peoples moralities have changed so much that not one precept has been permanent. we are constantly changing and our moralities are one hundred percent different than some of the majorities of our ancestors. we would not agree with them on one issue. you think we know right from wrong today. but so did our ancestors. they didnt know slavery murder misogyny and things like this were wrong and we too dont know what we are doing wrong. most of us dont anyways. we still hate gays unjustly. we still take birds that can fly around the world and place them in tiny cages to spend their lives singing to themselves and smelling their own crap. and walking in it. horrible things happen to animals in captivity because they cant call cops so they might as well be slaves. i could go on all day about the things we are doing that i think are wrong but you would disagree and argue i dont know right from wrong. we have wars and conflicts with our friends all the time because we do not know right from wrong. with every conflict their is at least one person in the wrong. if one wasnt wrong then there would be no conflict. other countries think we are wrong and we think they are wrong. this is why we fight. if most people knew right from wrong there would be no war. you think the people in other countries who fight us think they know they are wrong? bull squirt. the majority of people i dont think would fight if they knew their country was wrong. and lets look at the moral stupidity of the past. a "perfect" god once commanded the destruction of cities and the killing of men women and children so the israelites could live there. and this god was perfect at one time and still is today actually. you told me that. also look what we did to the indians and the blacks? if that stuff was wrong then they didnt know right from wrong because they all thought they were right. they thought they knew right from wrong so how do you know you know right from wrong. people are credulous and want to believe they know right from wrong. people generally believe what they want to believe. thats why believers are always aking "have you heard the good news". lol i have yet to see you make a point. just blind faith coming from you but ill keep reading. i expected a challenge. if i lose it will only be because of my grammar. how is making up a morality knowing right from wrong? you said we have free will and we can make up our moralities over time. free will doesnt prove we know right from wrong and you failed to make a point here also. what a shocker. but making up our moralities isnt learning whats right from wrong. imagining is the opposite of observation. without observing and learning how can you come to know what is right from wrong? thats just making up what we want to believe is right and wrong. if we were righteous our lives would be much harder because the right way is always the hardest way. most of our past has been nothing but countries locking people up for stealing and going to other countries to steal land and money legally. its the same thing yet one is said to be right and one wrong. or was at least. humans think they know right from wrong. but clearly they dont as they all contradict each other. explain to me how murder can be right and wrong. if it isnt then most dont know right from wrong as they disagree on every other precept. if it is right and wrong then there is no point of morality because whatever we think is right is right. guess ill come rape your wife and put your kids on the black market for money because it would benefit me after i convince myself that its righteous. and in your opinion it will be because whatever we think is right is right. there are people who would have said this is ok in the past and you say they know right from wrong so i guess if i wanted to do that i could in your opinion. your wrong for speaking your mind i guess because people in other countries kill for that if it goes against what they believe and they think they are well within their rights. you have still failed to provide a single rebuttal. if you win i will assume that most people on this site are biassed and just wanted you to win so they voted for you. this is the biggest win in a debate i have had yet on this site and ive debated with teenagers before. i have more points to prove but not enough space. ill leave you with this. how can most know right from wrong when their are thousands of different combinations of moral precepts and when maybe 5 percent of people agree with each other being the closest thing to a consensus? you know what. im done here. clearly i have won and there is no need to continue this debate.