Receiving government money (even in salary) comes from behind the point of a gun

There are no government baddies with guns pointing at you if you go to H&R Block and file your taxes. Makes no sense. Why would they and when did I imply that they would? Therefore, all we are left is this absurdly specific resolution, the burden of which is impossible for PRO to prove. I told you how to prove it. Call your local tax office and ask them what happens if you do not pay your property taxes. PRO must prove that every time someone pays taxes, there is literally a government agent with "a literal gun" standing there to ensure you pay your taxes. No sir, you are highly mistaken. They are there with the guns when you do NOT pay the taxes. Do you understand the difference? I am not sure you do. R2) PRO: "The money does not come from the Fed. The government merely prints that green paper with dead presidents that the Fed authorizes. The green money is simply a median of exchange. " Money IS a medium of exchange. That's all money is: That is what I said. ...therefore money DOES come from the Fed. And the FED is not the government. PRO then discusses barter, implying that a barter system is preferable to what we have today. Sir, I was once in an email conversation with my cousin. He was rambling on about all sorts of things venturing way off topic, much of what I did not recognize as sane conversation. I did not ask him at the time but I did find out later. He literally was on drugs. It was a prescribed drug but a drug nonetheless. He could not say anything that made sense. Now, with all due respect and in light of the fact that I said nothing positive or negative about bartering but only mentioned it to explain something else, are you on some kind of drug right now...either prescribed or illegal? Because if you are, please wait for the effects to wear off before making yet another absurd conclusion in your mind based on nothing that I ever said because even a small child could go back and read the earlier rounds and see that in no way, shape or form did I "imply" that bartering is preferable to what we have today. I hope it is only drugs and not your severe dishonest or worse. This is PRO's burden to prove, as he is advocating against the status quo. As it stands, I will repeat what I said in the prior round: "The dollar is part of our governing apparatus; most people would agree that we are better off having a unified currency than a barter society." Please see previous response and note that this debate never was about replacing the dollar with a barter system. PRO on the other hand seems to like to delve into illegal activity, and does not seem to want to pay taxes whenever taxes are due. As I continue to read, I am more and more convinced that sobriety is not something you have committed to because a small child will see in this debate that all you have done is make responses to things that I never said. There is something wrong at your end. PRO completely ignores evidence that he can find ways to not pay taxes legally, thereby completely avoiding the big government baddie looking to scare him with their guns and tasers and dogs with big teeth. I cannot decide now if you sound like someone under some kind of legal or illegal influence or someone who is just an idiot. Where did I say anything about not paying taxes? Where? Where? Where? R4) PRO: "If it involves pointing a gun at someone, it is immoral." CON: "What if I pointed a gun at someone threatening my family? How is this immoral? Basically, there is such a thing as justifiable violence." Really? You actually have to ask? Let me help you. Pointing a gun at someone demanding money = immoral. Pointing a gun at someone to tell them to stop threatening your family = moral. If you have any more questions that are easier than that and I cannot imagine that you would because there aren't any that are easier, feel free to ask. R5) a) PRO makes the absurd claim that "What the Fed has been doing with money printing is counterfeit." This is ridiculous. What the Fed has been doing is printing LEGAL TENDER. Now, I understand your point of view. If the government or FED does it, it is legal and if we do it, it is not. Thanks for pointing that out. I was not sure how that worked. Gold by itself, without government sanction, is NOT money. You cannot walk into a grocery store and buy some broccoli with your gold nuggets. You are dead wrong, sir. I can trade cow manure for broccoli if the broccoli grower is willing to make the trade. PRO's charge of counterfeit is thus absolutely absurd. Well, if you don't know the truth about our money, please spend some time Googling. The word "counterfeit" actually means: "made in exact imitation of something valuable or important with the intention to deceive or defraud." The green bill we use are not counterfeit in that strictest definition but what other word should we use? The paper does not represent anything real like gold or silver. I can see educating yourself in how the FED has screwed us over is not in your interest. This is ad hominem and poor conduct. I made no assumptions stemming from PRO's profile, I reached conclusions stemming from this particular debate. No, you did not. Just admit it. Poor conduct? You have lied repeatedly about what I said when I said nothing of the sort. Anyone reading this debate can see that. Using latin phrases does not make you sound more intelligent. It just sounds like you are trying to sound more intelligent. R9) PRO: "If they pass laws against exercise, would you say to me "Well, just don't exercise and you won't be breaking the law. Problem solved."" PRO fails to consider that WE live in a democracy. WE pass laws by electing representatives who serve our interests. It is difficult to believe that you or anyone actually believes that elected reps serve our interests. I just don't know what to say except "wow." No, we are not a democracy. You have fallen for a lie. http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com... 10) PRO: "What law did I mention that I have zero respect for?" Tax law. Laws surrounding Welfare, Social Security, Medicare, the military, courts, police force, firefighters, etc...anything and everything that is paid by "GOVERNMENT MONEY", per this ridiculous resolution. PRO has zero respect for any and all of these institutions. PRO's line of thinking is absolutely ridiculous and does not conform to reality. You are just lying. By you even mentioning police and firefighters, you are really showing your butt to me suggesting that I want anarchy. I just hate lying debaters. I said from the beginning that this debate was not about the morality of government's power to tax or whether they should be in the business of taking from one person to give to the other. I was simply pointing out how it works. You have to be living in Denialville if you think that they will not get out the guns to collect your Social Security. That is what I am guessing you get. I know that PRO has a lot of problems stemming from non-compliance with the tax system, and the tax system is part of just about everyone's life. Really? So you have some evidence that I am "non-compliant with the tax system." Please, for all of our audience, submit your evidence. By claiming "Receiving government money (even in salary) comes from behind the point of a gun", he is claiming that the government should be shut down out of some inane moral bias. Nope, you are lying again. If you were not lying, where did I say any of that? You are lying and you cannot stay on topic. You will not admit your receiving of government monies and will never admit that they came from behind the point of a gun. You cannot see these obvious things because you cannot stop jumping to different conclusions about me and lying.