If Jesus of the Bible died, he came to die for the sins of his father or his sins if he is God.

Rebuttal Point 1 For the reader, I would like to point out that my opponent is actually cherry picking verses in the Bible and using them out of context. When someone focuses on the WORDS that have been said and not the MEANING, this is dangerous. It is common knowledge that the Bible was not written in English, therefore it is necessary to understand what the authors were trying to say when they were writing. Let's take my opponent's use of 2 Samuel 24: 15-16 in the first round as seen below: II Samuel 24:15-16 15 "So the LORD sent a plague on Israel from that morning until the end of the time designated, and seventy thousand of the people from Dan to Beersheba died. 16 When the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem; the LORD was grieved because of the calamity and said to the angel who was afflicting the people, Enough! Withdraw your hand. The angel of the LORD was then at the threshing-floor of Araunah the Jebusite." https://www.biblegateway.com... The pro's argument is that God felt sorry for what he did and called back the Angel that he sent to kill 70,000 men. This link below provides an analysis and commentary of what ACTUALLY happened: http://www.enduringword.com... (The explanation for verses 15-16 can be found in B, #1-4, but I would recommend a reading of the full commentary) When one reads this commentary, it is discovered that the deaths of these 70,000 men was not the fault of God, but the fault of King David who sinned against God. In result of the sin, David was given a choice regarding his judgment. Of three options, David chose a plague that would last 3 days in Israel and this resulted in the death of 70,000 men. When God asked the Angel to "withdraw" his hand it is because the time had expired. The deaths of these men WAS David's fault ALONE, NOT God's. Another point I would like to make is that it does NOT please God when someone dies. Death is the price of sin, but God doesn't get a kick out of it. In fact, he HATES it and it breaks his heart. Anyways, now that this is cleared up, I would like to advise my opponent to be more careful on the next time that he quotes Scripture without actually understanding the context, background, and implication. In other words, it is unwise to provide the TEXT without knowing the CONTEXT as it can result in a fallacious argument. This can be used for the other verses that my opponent has provided, but each case is separate and it would take too long to cover all of them. Rebuttal Point 2 In the closing of his argument in the 2nd round, my opponent has said, "I don't believe God can sin, my argument is more or less a Satire." If he truly believes this, I can actually use his words to prove my case using two points. The first point will come from the first half of the excerpt that I have just listed above. The second comes from end of the question of this debate, "...Jesus...if he is God." From these two phrases, I have resulted with these two points, respectively: God cannot sin, Jesus is God. - If God cannot sin, then NOTHING he does, thinks, says, etc is sinful - If Jesus is God, then NOTHING he does, thinks, says, etc is sinful - If NOTHING that God/Jesus does, thinks, says, etc is sinful, then Jesus' death on the cross COULD NOT have been for his own sins or for the sins of the Father To phrase this is an easier way, if my opponent believes that God cannot sin, his ENTIRE case is fallacious. This would mean that my opponent has NO question, NO argument, and NO debate. Conclusion To my opponent: Thank you for making this a lively and thought-provoking discussion. I have thoroughly enjoyed it and am thankful to have been your opponent! Hopefully, my arguments were easy to follow and straightforward. I apologize if anything that I have said may have come across as offensive and I hope you know that this was not at all my intention. I also want you to know that I am keeping you in my prayers and hope that you will be able to know Jesus just as well as I do! God bless! To the reader: It is my hope that you would have something to take back with you, if anything. Thanks for sticking around to hear what I have to say! If this has sparked your interest in any way, I highly encourage you to keep digging because God is worth it! God bless you all!