The existence of free will as proposed by the bible (Cont.debate)

ï¿½I would like to sincerely thank this great debater for taking the time to continue to in this fascinating subject.ï¿½ I apologize for the lack of characters in our last debate I wildly underestimated the magnitude of this subject. My example came across vague, and maybe even hard to relate to. I guess we will start with, My fourth contention on our last debate, i was proposing my perspective of your model, "anything that takes 1 of 2 possible paths have choice (so a dog is free if he chews my shoes over sandals)" This is trying to aim at the question, Do dogs have free will You responded 4) Your dog does have a choice of what to chew up, even though you may chastise them and put them outside if the border does not compare to the bible taken literally, what is the essential properties needed to be considered a chooser I proposed that you were basing the destination on "anything that takes 1 of 2 possible paths, so far this is your interpretation of free will, until otherwise stated Another possible answer is anything organized into a structure is considered to be alive, because it can exist in the universe that is constantly fluctuating. energy is existing for extremely small spans of time and then get annihilated, this is actually the one area pointed out by theist to describe randomness in the brain. They either accidentally or intentionally leave out that this is happening everywhere, to us animals plants rocks, and even time is in constant flux. All things that are considered solid are mostly empty space everything is in constant flux. Randomness is unable to predict, ï¿½but we can still compose a view of this based on general relativity, Einstein has stated that everything is relative, and noticed our universal speed limit, a term that will exist for as long as this universe.ï¿½ It has now been proven that time is even relative. Check out how the twins paradox relates to how they must constantly reset our GPS satellites to account for the difference in the gravitational force, if not constantly accounting for randomness bye bye Tom Tom. Interesting read at source http://metaresearch.org... Such comments referring to instability, such as, because atomic clocks change frequencies by small, semi-random amounts (of order 1 ns/day) at unpredictable times for reasons that are not fully understood. As a consequence, the long-term accuracy of these clocks is poorer than their short-term accuracy. ï¿½This model of the world has got to intrigue you first off, religion was invented when the world was flat, and spitting on wounds were a cure. They decided to make the line of what is conscious, making free will exclusive to humans. Everything has been considered conscious because nobody can place that dividing line. Here are some of my views on choice and how confusing the paradox can become if thinking that free will can be "created"ï¿½ Considering that choice must "be", whether, or not it is "chosen" by god or not, because choice Demands the platform of choice, it in its nature, creates itself before it can be created, say that someone has no choice but to choose, because if they can propose to create choice or not it must already exist.ï¿½ Free Will is Choice, But the idea choice is a lot like the idea of god because, such as, How it would take a super intelligence to make intelligence , but Gods mind must be even more elaborate more complex, if a humans are complex enough to be considered unable to occur by random events then surely gods designer must be even more fundamentally unlikely to have occurred, because gods god would then be even more elaborate a structure, Much like when analyzing the concept of choice, One must presuppose choice exists before one can CHOOSE, to make Choice or not With throwing choice out of the equation and understanding that even god is subject to debate when he is considered free when there is no logical way choice can be chosenï¿½ It doesn't matter if one avenue split into two, and it doesn't matter if the ï¿½first choice to choose choice(choice to be)was chosen by god, or us, because choice is it's own prerequisite so such paradox must be just boiled down to whatever is, is because if its isn't it isn't. You have no choice but to go with the whatever is because is, is all there is or else it would be, otherwise. So back to the debate In the example my opponent stated ï¿½"god knows that you will change your mind" ï¿½means that there is 0 chance that an atheist can be anything other than an atheist, where the baby vs MCATs is actually a possibility, maybe the same or more probable than the odds of the baby even being born in the first place. Question. Babies dies shorty after being born, If it is to preserve the babies fragile state to inhibit it from going to hell then all souls can be preserved in this way. If true thatï¿½means if an atheist were just murdered at birth it would save such a soul from an eternity of torment, sounds like killing every baby that could ever exist would be doing more good than what any church could do if just one atheist dies because of this not making use of loopholeï¿½a sad not to mention EXTREMELY Dangerous world view, and this is from an unlikely source being pro life an allï¿½ I await your response If you are unable see your will done without restriction then we are not taking free literally. My opponent has said that "you are expected to live within your means" in the case someone wills chicken but cannot always get what one wills. What would you do if you had a million dollars? Well you would act like a millionaire, which may include feeling like god thinks your so special that you deserve to know he is there by some timely saving grace, as most Christians attribute their faith to. Question. Is this "living within means" related to the Body, Brain capacity, Physical ability? Because I can agree with that completely! everyone lives within their means of decision making innate to themselves, this exchange is not just monetary, it could even be considered that the body is an economy of chemicals and one can only live within the means of the chemicals available, since every piece of energy must hold within the means of E=MC2 this means of reference is as expected just another way of expressing the fundamental aspects that exist in numerous applications. This equilibrium does not signify free will. It is the only way in which the universe is holding itself together. I think that is enough for now I am curious as to what the finding may be.