Abortion

Point 1: Yes but I have proved my point. Point 2:You use an excuse that people would hide the deaths, wh a fallacy. When one dies they would have ot bury her and the goverment uch of the time mus tinspect the body and such, therefore they would catch the mistake. Also they could have cought it in the act and if she was dying she would go to the hospital no? The ER and get treated for free regardless. So don't their poor. Also they doctors would see what happened and would be obligated to tell. Point 3:I have proven it was unjustified. Also My graph showed underground abortions. Also further more I have proven it wa sunjustified and you haven't ted my main contention yet, which will not be named would like it to stay unscathed. Point 4:It is not here's a poll:85% of the women said they would not have aborted their babies if it had been illegal. [1]that means most wouldn't travel. Also sit people who have abortions are poor how would they afford a flight?Point 5I won't refute links. post words not blue scrambled letters. Point 6:did you really just say an edu ad a goverment site ar eunreliable? Ha! They are the sited recomended. EDU sites are very reliable and are often times itten by doctors. And gov sites are considered the best. oh I trusted an edu site sorry I misread. But that source looked...odd to me. Also it says legalization only affects for born kids. That means abortion when legal increases child abuse, which it does:If children are viewed as expendable before birth, they will be viewed as expendable after birth. A study by Dr Phillip Ney, Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Christ Church, New Zealand, clearly pointed to the fact that abortion (and its acceptance of the violence of killing the unborn) lowered a parent's psychic resistance to violence and abuse of the born. [2]SO it being legal increaseld abuse, raising crime. Point 7:I agree but that means that they still have that option. You are just saying "well they keep it". That proves htey love the baby and killing it would actulaly hurt their minds. SO logically you helped my case. But I have proved in NEEDED adoption was another option. You have droped those other arguments on this. Point 8:Yes but killing those few could be terrible. It would ruin society, and even for the average shmuck it is bad. Killing = less population. Less populaiton = small aer workforce which = worse economy. Btw abortion is bad for the econmy:"The murder of millions of babies since Roe has had a profound impact on the demographics of the United States. As a result of removing that staggering number of lives, the population – and tax base – are far smaller. If we assume a fairly steady rate of abortions since the last year of reporting (2008), then there have been almost 56M aborted babies in this country – nearly the population of California and Texas combined. Given an average federal tax revenue of approximately $8500/citizen, and assuming that those aborted between 1975 and 1990 (approx 23,782,000 lives, based on Guttermacher estimates) would now be productive taxpayers, the U.S. economy is losing roughly $202 billion per year in tax payments as of 2012."[3]yep so it's burden on the tax payers in turn hurts the economy. Point 9:Um my sources are from goverment sites, not wikipedia. Which do you trust more? Point 10:you have mostly rebuttals your arguemnts provide first round where completly destroyed. Your BOP is to prove this, which you ahve not done. Point 11you wan't sources on pain? ok:8 weeks [4]8 weeks [5]8 weeks [6]good?Point 12I will use a goverment site to prove this:"RESULTS: Forty-one percent of women had become pregnant on at least one occasion prior to age 25, with 14.6% having an abortion. Those having an abortion had elevated rates of subsequent mental health problems including depression, anxiety, suicidal behaviours and substance use disorders. This association persisted after adjustment for confounding factors. CONCLUSIONS: The findings suggest that abortion in young women may be associated with increased risks of mental health problems." [7] Point 13This isn't a link war. "Every study of induced abortions performed before the first live birth is consistent with an initial increase in risk of at least 50 percent," reports Dr Joel Brind, professor of endocrinology at Baruch College, City University of New York, who is also a breast cancer researcher on staff at Beth Israel Hospital and Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City. [8] Brazil, more breast cancer patients reported having had abortions than did the control group. The rate of breast cancer among women in Finland increased with the number of abortions. The risk among Italian women with one of more legal abortions before a first live birth was increased by 42 percent. Among Chinese women who developed breast cancer before the age of 40, abortion before first full-term pregnancy led to an increased risk of 140 percent. The Soviets have one of the world's highest abortion rates and the incidence of breast cancer among Russian, Estonian and Soviet Georgian women tripled between 1960 and 1987 [9]Point 14lacking logic and sources. mine had at least logic. I belive mine had asource on how the system was secure as well. Point 15again lacking logic. If they TRULY couldn't care for the kid they would have given it to adoption. truly. they would, so logic states that if you can parent then you give him/her away. ==conclusion==I have refuted my opponents contentions with facts and viable sources and studies I urge you to vote con. PS: I request that we end debate now as school has statrted, so just sy vote pro and I'll di likewise. You can always say no in the comments and continue but it would be a geniune kindness to end it now. sources:Aborted Women: Silent No More, by David C Reardon, 1987, Crossway, Westchester, IL p321-322 [1]"Relationship Between Abortion and Child Abuse" by Dr P Ney. Canada Journal of Psychiatry, vol 24, 1979, p610-620 [2]http://www.redstate.com... [3]http://www.abortionfacts.com... [4]http://www.whyprolife.com... [5]http://www.humanrightsforunbornchildren.com... [6]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... [7] Journal of the American Medical Association for peer review (Nov 1993). [8]Lime 5, by Mark Crutcher, 1996, Life Dynamics Inc. Denton, Texas. p223-238 [9]