Nowadays, an Islamic African-American Woman would have more "Rights" than a Christian White Man

"Thanks to Mongeese for instigating this debate, glad we got the chance to discuss this topic." Same here. "Sympathy is not generally gained by ability of any kind but rather by the situation of being in an unfortunate circumstance. No one is going to feel sorry for you unless you have been mistreated or excluded in some way. Likewise it is not any ability that let's you do something without interference, it is freedom." Sympathy can be gained through gender, race, or religion, because people feel that minorities have been mistreated and excluded, so they attempt to make up for it, but they end up unbalancing the scale in the opposite direction. Freedom can be linked with race, gender, and religion. "This may seem like I'm being pedantic, but I'm pointing out that my opponent's self-supplied definition doesn't make much sense in itself..." Yeah, I guess that makes sense. 1. Religion "I really don't see how my opponent's example of Islamic awareness events have anything to do with the issue of Muslims having any more ability to gain the sympathy of the nation..." The basic point of that passage is that California's school board decided that it would be rude to have Muslims say the pledge with the words, "under God," but a class that converts kids into Muslims is perfectly okay. This is an example of the special privileges America has started to give to minorities. "One can hardly live in America without being aware of Christianity either..." Yes, that is true, but likewise, Muslims are free to practice their own religion, as well, and... http://en.wikipedia.org... Look at that. Muslim holidays fall close to Spring Break, Winter Break, Summer Break, Thanksgiving Week... Muslims would easily be able to get out of school for other holidays. "And although separation of church and state is the official line..." Muslims are also anti-abortion, and believe in intelligent design. "How can it not be a positive thing to learn about other cultures and religions?..." They aren't just learning a new culture; they're temporarily converting to it. At my school, they're starting a Bible class next year, about the effect of the Bible on Western culture, and it is being promised that the class will have a neutral religious standpoint. That obviously isn't happening in California with the Muslims. This is because Americans currently feel the need not to let majorities impose, and to allow minorities to impose. "The Muslim world would generally be interpreted to mean all Muslims (the Ummah) including those living in the US." Note that the Muslim world is also used to mean the Middle East and surrounding countries, soon to include Europe and Canada. (Confused? Read "America Alone.") "If referring to the middle east I would guess it refers to countries with Islamic law and government, where there is no separation between church (or mosque) and state..." So, either we should be the Christian world, but can't be due to religious protest, or we aren't, and thus we lack Christian majority on our laws. "Christians are in the majority in America, so as America is democratic (small d) they are more likely to have their views represented in law, so therefore more likely to be able to do the things they want with less interference." Muslims and Christians actually share the views that you have said recently. Additionally, Muslims are more likely to vote Democratic. "Due to the threat of terrorism, police profiling is now based heavily on religion (or an estimate of religion determined by ethnicity/appearance)" However, this is an Islam African-American that we're talking about, not an Islam Middle-Eastern, so the argument becomes void. "Whether it is held by the individual making the selection or is endemic to the institution, it is real and it does exist." And so, they decided to balance the scales... but accidentally tipped them in the opposite direction. "Affirmative action laws exist to counter-balance this existing bias, not to create a new one. In a society where minorities are under-represented and under achieving and communities are becoming ghettoised, it can only be a good thing to attempt to break the cycle." We didn't just break the cycle. We recreated it. "The Obama link doesn't seem to be working. Perhaps my opponent can re-post?" The web page itself died. New one:http://www.washingtonpost.com... "The extra 5% of blacks deciding to vote could easily be explained by previously apathetic and disillusioned black people gaining a new enthusiasm for politics." It could be more easily explained by the fact that he is black. "People tend to vote for people who look like themselves, white people have been doing it for years and not through racism. I don't really understand the 'good to vote FOR someone because he is another race, but bad to vote AGAINST him for it' thing. Please explain the difference and how one is considered better." Being racist against Obama is bad. Being racist against McCain is good. That's the argument that is made. We are allowing blacks to turn the tables after we've tried to fold it up. "As for the term black being seen as racist, I would think someone very sensitive if they were offended at being described as black..." And yet, they still feel offended. New link: http://en.wikipedia.org... "As racism exists and is directed more towards black people than white people. Black people clearly do not have more 'rights'." Government laws have been put in place to undo this. Instead, they reversed it. Now, a company has to hire more black people than they'd prefer, even from a neutral standpoint, because of affirmative action. "The argument of women not being included in the draft could also be interpreted as discrimination against them, regarding them as less fit to fight and I think as an individual who has been unwillingly drafted would receive sympathy from some people, this also makes women less able to gain sympathy." They used sympathy to get out of the draft. The draft forces people to do things, so being out of the draft allows people to do what they want; thus, "rights." "Science needs to be made more appealing to girls because they are currently disinclined to become involved." And this claim is backed by...? "Boy's sports are promoted harder and taken far more seriously than girl's sports in US schools, I don't know how many sports scholarships girls get but I would be surprised if boys don't get more. (This is more of an argument than a rebuttal) It sounds like your school wanted to have mixed basketball and thought more boys would apply. Mixed b-ball sounds like great fun to me, although of course I would only want to play with adult females." That's because guys have always gotten into sports more heavily. Girls just don't want to play football so badly. "Women have to go through a great deal more physical trauma than men in order to have children..." However, it is their own choice. "I can't speak for the US but currently in the UK, girls are starting to outperform boys academically and often prove to be more ambitious than their male counterparts..." STARTING. The effect has yet to be seen in the economy, because they have to get jobs and promotions first. "Racism, religious segregation and sexism are well documented and backed up by opponent's well researched wikipedia sources..." http://en.wikipedia.org... http://en.wikipedia.org... We don't have religious segregation, 'cause we ended it with the First Amendment. However, recent Muslim movements are imposing their religion on others. It's already been done in Europe. http://en.wikipedia.org... In conclusion, we have turned the tables that we have meant to close. Thank you.