The Existence of The Christian God

Thank you very much for that response Pro. (Watch out for your grammar and typos for I noticed a lot.) Rebuttal: “I don't want to delete all of that and write a new thing for arguments only, so I am leaving it there. Forgive me!” By writing your rebuttals, you give yourself an unfair advantage in this debate. Even if you did somehow, accidently forget the rules, you could have just saved your work and used it in your next response, you did not have to delete them all. I would like to forgive you, but you broke the rules and gave yourself an unfair advantage that has to be penalized. “God created everything perfect, without any flaw.” You are suggesting that everything is perfect. This is completely false since nothing is perfect. “Part of the perfection of his creation is that man had free-will, and thus could corrupt the world.” This sentence is hilarious. Please read it again. “Part of the perfection of his creation is that man had free-will, and thus could corrupt the world.” Are you serious? You think that it’s perfect that man corrupts the world. This is not perfect; for God even regrets making man. “The LORD was grieved that He had made man on the earth.” Genesis 6:6 "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them" Genesis 6:6-7 What you said is completely, completely foolish. “This is completely illogical. You cannot apply human standards like that to God Almighty.” Ok… first of all, I can, and I will since God is extremely similar to humans. "And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." Genesis 1:27 Secondly, I don’t think you read what I wrote; perfect things are always exaggerations of an ideal. Therefore God is an exaggeration of an ideal, thus nonexistent. “See the first sentence I typed out.” Your first sentence is: “Note: I am writing this after I typing my rebuttals.” Besides the grammatical error, I don’t understand how this defeats my argument. “You have to assume God's intention in creating the Universe to say this and/or see first sentence.” I see your first sentence again and do not see it defeating anything. Also scripture tells us that God created the universe for the purpose of his own glorification. “God chose us in him before the foundation of the world . . . to the praise of the glory of his grace” (Ephesians 1:4–6). “You have to assume God's intention in creating the Universe to say this and/or see first sentence.” You say the exact same thing twice and the second doesn’t even defeat the argument. “You have to assume God's intention in creating the Universe to say this and/or see the first sentence.” You say the same thing three times now, really pathetic. “Since God is omnipotent, he has the power to understand what the feelings of immoral actions are without doing them.” This is completely false. It’s like you are saying that there can be a married bachelor. It is contradictory, false, fallacy. What you say is completely false. “Not everything you said above is true, thus the foundation for this conclusion is broken.” Everything I said is true and your only argument against it was what I just defeated previously. “God created time, thus he exists outside the bound of it.” Where’s your evidence that God created time. Or that he lives outside it. Do not make wild claims that cannot be supported by evidence. “Since he is not under the laws of time, and is omnipresent, he is thus in all places, at all time periods, all the time. He's not making a choice, even though he knows what will happen: From the perspective from a being that exists outside of time, it already happened. God makes his own choices, and he already made them all.” I believe the bolded parts defeat your entire argument. “Since God created the laws of logic, he exists outside of them,” Yet again; where’s your evidence, do not make foolish claims. “The cause of this Universe, whatever it may be, must exist outside the boundaries set in the Universe, which includes: Time, Matter, and Logic.” Why must this cause exist outside of the universe? Please explain why this must be. “Something is either personal or it isn't: There is no middle ground. Since the cause of the Universe logically cannot be impersonal, the cause must logically be personal.” This does not prove God’s existence at all. I even said in the beginning that God was a personal being. “Said the Earth was circular hundreds of years before it was dicovered - Isaiah 40:22 (There was no Hebrew word for Sphere).” The church actually taught that the Earth was flat. “The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.” –Ferdinand Magellan The rest of Pro’s argument is a whole bunch of links. I will not read any of them because they are not arguments. You do not understand how a debate works. You do not come, post a whole bunch of links and say those are your arguments. Arguments: God is defined as a personal being that is all-knowing. Also remember that; personal beings have free will. To have free will, you must have more than one option that you can choose from. This means that before you make a choice, there must be a state of uncertainty while deciding on the choice, you cannot know the future. Even if you think you can predict your decision, if you claim to have free will, you cannot claim to know what will happen. A being that knows everything cannot have uncertainty. This being knows what will happen in advance. This means that the being has no potential to avoid its choices, and therefore lacks free will. Since a being that lacks free will is not a personal being, a personal being who knows everything cannot exist. Therefore, the Christian God does not exist. You may object that God, being omnipotent, can change his mind. But if he does, then he did not know the future in the first place. If he truly knows the future, then the future is fixed and not even God can change it. If he changes his mind anyway, then his knowledge was limited. You can't have it both ways: no being can be omniscient and omnipotent at the same time. Therefore God cannot exist. Many Christians state that God is an all-powerful being as my opponent does himself. Yet the very idea of a being that is all powerful does not make philosophical sense. Therefore we know that an all-powerful being could not exist for these reasons. An all-powerful being can do anything hence all-powerful. Therefore an all-powerful being can do anything, including: being a married bachelor, an atheist theist, a beautifully ugly girl, etc. These things are impossible to be. Therefore omnipotence is impossible. God does not exist. Conclusion: My opponent has purposely cheated and therefore given himself an unfair advantage throughout the entire debate. This should be penalized. I have defeated my opponent’s rebuttals as well as his arguments.