On balance, Justin Bieber is a worse influence on teenagers than Miley Cyrus

Tvellalot's Arguments1. Something to aspire toI think both Justin Bieber did work hard in the beginning of his career, and with the help of others (adults), was able to become as popular as he is now. The problem is, the youthful innocence Justin "may" have had is now gone. Justin Bieber has turned into a rebel teenager who does nothing more for society than enrage people, and and entertain little girls. But that's just my respective opinion. We can look at his behavior in all the previous situations I noted, plus others that I haven't to show Bieber' s true colors. I think most famous singers start out small. But this argument doesn't do much for making up for his negative influence.2. Transitioning. It is true that Miley is transitioning into a more mature music setting than Beiber is. Bieber I think has been to some extent psychologically damaged, as Brittany Spears was from all the fame, celebrity, and riches. I don't think this does much to prove that Miley is a worse influence; just that her impact on younger teens has shifted to older ones.Rebuttalshttp://www.youtube.com...Argument 1: Justin Beiber's Crimes(For ease of argumentation and grouping, I will take out the four step categorilation underneath this argument) Justin’s constant bad behavior streak however is quite different than Miley’s. His social impact is based purely on negative reactions, and improper conduct.Justin Bieber as a person has demonstrated himself to be a jerk. People can follow his music and entertainment, but in the way of character, it’s hard for teens to look up to him as anything more than a good entertainer.Miley’s Social and Public behavior isn’t as negatively reputable. Miley generally responds to media with elegance and self control, and is able to establish herself popularly among other singers. Again, what we need to weigh in this debate is who does less damage in the form of public negative influence.At the rate Justin is going, he will be featured on the news almost monthly for doing some crazy stunt that attracts attention and drama. Justin has been playing the stereo-typical rich kid teen rebellion act, and his fame and riches help him get out of a lot of occurrences that would normally end in law suits, prison, etc. In Justin’s most recent exploitation of Bill Clinton, Justin and his group of friends urinate on public property, before swearing at the ex-president while on camera. After doing so, they refer to themselves as the “Wild boys” before running away whooping and hollering. This public display of dis-obedience is Justin’s most recent middle finger to society, and the law. Justin called the president and did apologize. (11) (12)Whether Justin actually meant his words or not, he has shown that peer pressure is more important to him than having a reputable behavior. The way Justin dresses and act’s also is not much better than Miley. You see Bieber at the awards with saggy pants, gold necklaces, sideways hats, etc. Dressing like a thug is not a crime, but it is definitely annoying for parents who have teenagers who try to replicate his style.Also, in response to my opponent’s drug argument: let’s get something straight. I am not against the legalization of drugs, nor do I care what people do behind closed doors. If you Tvellalot smoke weed, and nobody know about it, than by all means, good luck in not getting caught. But specific to Justin Bieber: doing drugs IS against the law, and he was caught with it in his tour bus, and further admitted it publicly on national TV trying to discard it as humorous, and perfectly fine. Imagine a teenager watching this SNL skit. They just got from this that you can do drugs, and probably won’t get away with it, as well as learned that doing drugs is cool. Justin Bieber did it, and people laughed with him about it, so why can’t we?This can convince teens that it’s okay to get into the habit of ruining their health and violating the law, because Justin did and was just fine. The act doing drugs being morally permissible or not should be beside the point; the point is it’s a habit that teens can get into that will get them in trouble from the law, and Justin endorses it.To conclude this session of arguments, I think Justin’s crimes overall take a higher priority to Miley’s and play a worse factor on the influence of teens. I pass the debate back on to my opponent.Speeding, is against the law despite his reason for doing it. Groping is just poor public conduct. Argument 2: Miley is a better influenceMy opponent’s main point seemed to be surrounding Miley’s promiscuity in her video’s and actions. While I agree her latest video was probably a bit of a confusing for her teenage fans, it’s message was for people to be themselves, and not care about the judgment of others. Though I think she could have made this message clear with rubbing herself against everything she touched in the video, I don’t think this video was as bad as some of the things I mentioned in the last round about Justin.Miley’s reputation of good behavior almost supersedes her bad behavior reputation however. Miley is known for being a famous Disney start until she stopped the show “Hannah Montana” in 2011. In each of her episodes, she is confronted with problems and choices that she must choose to handle. The episodes represent her learning from her mistakes through comedy, and end in a serious manner to prove the overall value of the episode. Ultimately, this TV series was a pretty good influence on her watchers. Miley Cyrus’s behavior in her video was quite popular, however when people think of Miley Cyrus (especially younger teenagers), do you think they will think of her years in Disney, or her one conflicting video, that kids might actually understand the value of? (On a side note, I completely agree that Miley is a hottie in that video, in a weird kind of way).I will say that I agree that in some cases, both of these individuals probably aren’t the worst “influences” for most teenagers. Most teenagers will act in ways such as these because of their hormones, mixed with social pressure. I think the effect of television, and music is an influencing factor however, and both of these teens really do not do much for “good” influence on the teens. For older teens around the age of 16-19 for example, are likely to not take on much influence from either of these pop stars. They may follow suit with some of the bad behaviors (bad as defined by society, I should clarify), but most of that comes from other environments I think.But I do believe both of these individuals have a larger effect on their younger audiences from the ages of 11-15. The main appeal of both pop singers is targeted for towards the younger teenagers. When they see Justin Bieber on TV threatening to fight people, committing sexual acts publicly, doing drugs, and cursing towards ex-presidents, it can be confusing and challenging to their youth and innocence. This is where kids can get confused are we can start seeing the pop culture influences take effect on their lives. Imagine a 12 year old fan (like the one in the video I posted), being a huge Bieber fan, finding out about all of his activities. This is a person she looked up to and admired, for his musical skill and talent (her perception, not mine, trust me). Younger teenagers are confronted by this, as well as already dealing with the conflict of peer pressure and social anxiety. So is it not possible that both of these pop culture artists help in the process of influencing teenagers in negative habits? I think it definitely does. So while Justin and Miley are both Guilty of this, let’s weigh between the influences both Artists and decide who has the most negative impacts.11. http://www.latinpost.com...12. http://www.wkyc.com...