Socialism is evil

DEFINITIONSSocialism: The state owns the common means of production and redistributes wealthCapitalism: An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, Rather than by the state. REBUTTAL “These are 3 of many countries that have gone socialist, And historically and recently there have been very successful countries with socialization. The United Kingdom, Norway, Germany, Denmark, Portugal, Switzerland, Canada, And Sweden also have high levels of socialization in their countries and are prospering and some of which are arguably better than the US. ” The Nordic model is highly capitalist, You were wanting to debate socialism as you defined in round one, Not social systems. If anything, They would be categorized under welfare capitalism or a mixed economy. You’ve specified that you weren’t erroneously using Socialism as an umbrella term, So I expect you to meet your own criteria with your examples. “While the US has raised the standard of living, Socialism has helped it. Capitalism in it's purest form is not viable for sustaining a country. The most accurate example of a purely based capitalistic country with little to no socialism is during the industrial revolution mainly in Europe and America. ” The standard of living hasn’t only risen in the USA, It’s risen all around the world due to modern advancements in Science and technology. These are not examples of a purely capitalist economy, They’re examples of a purely libertarian society. “More socialized countries according to US News, Have higher median wages than the US does. … So stating that more socialized countries don't have higher standards of living if not HIGHER standards of living are inaccurate. ” These countries having higher median wages is meaningless. These countries also have a much higher cost of living with a higher tax rate to support their social systems. “And in a capitalist system, All of the power goes to greedy corporations that would rather see people die than to see their profit margins drop. This is simply not true, Unless you think government itself is somehow innately socialist. I’m not advocating for anrcho-capitalism as you seem to assume. “Statistically, 45, 000 people die in the US from being underinsured and people everywhere are going bankrupt from privatized college. ” Yes, And universal healthcare isn’t a solution; though an obvious red herring, I’ll address this because I think it’s important to you. The solution is a market-based system which produces MORE doctors and MORE healthcare. Centralizing this and laying it upon the government will do little to help in this regard. Not to mention, The United States’ is the primary innovator of medicine. Subsidizing College was one of the stupidest decisions the United States ever made. Ideally, A College education would distinguish you, But in making it accessible it negates the value entirely. The average person should not be going to college, Nor be attempting to. It would be better if the government just got out of this. “I would rather see a government providing these services since the government at least does these for the good of the people are not for profit. Countries such as Norway, Japan, And the United Kingdom have socialized medicine and have higher life expectancies than the US. In fact, Spain is actually leading in the worlds life expectancy and has national healthcare. ” Why? It seems to me all these things could be provided by a capitalist system, Except better. The only issues the United States has had in recent times has been tied to social systems and welfare. I’m not convinced piling more of the same problem ontop of the mess we’ve already created will solve anything. “Redistribution of Wealth occurs in America as well based on the definition. This is basically what taxes are. Taxes essentially take some wealth from others and create socialized programs such as the military, Education, And healthcare. So unless you are going to be arguing for an anarcho-capitalist country, You have to have some level of redistribution. ” This isn’t socialism, Taxation is necessary in order for the government to enforce the social contract and protect it's sovereignty. Properly implemented, Taxation should not interfere with a capitalist economy.