Allowing Gay Marraige.

Thank you for your response. I’ll simply quote you and respond since there will be enough character space. “if the government doesn't care about the private lives of the couples, then shouldn't they legalize gay marraige? Isn't the benifit's all their after? You're implying that they don't care about the private lives of couples, and that all they want is benifits, so how come they don't want to legalize it?” Well you see, the government recognizes that heterosexual couples naturally have children and promote a family unit. Homosexual couples do not have this because they cannot naturally procreate with each other through their relationship. The government recognizes heterosexual couples because they are consistent and provide exactly what the government wants to promote. Although homosexual couples might be able to still benefit the society through adoption, they still don’t have that special link to a family unit. The government regulates marriage only for the benefits couples bring, specifically the benefits of heterosexual couples. Homosexual couples only have a link to a private relationship with each other, but the government isn’t interested in the private relationship of people because they are only interested in the benefits that relationship may bring. A heterosexual couple has a public relationship, and a private relationship. The public relationship is the benefits heterosexual couples naturally bring, and the private relationship is how they privately interact with each other. Homosexual couples only have a private relationship because they do not naturally give benefits to the society through their relationship. “They feel afraid that society is going to change if gay marraige is allowed, because if they didn't, they would let gay marraige happen, so this is NOT only about the benifits, it's also about personal emotions as well.”’ That would be correct, for if we saw no possible negative affects to the legalization of gay marriage we would not be having this debate in all, in fact gay marriage would most likely already be legalized. However, this does not mean the conclusion you came to on how personal emotions matter as well. Again, the government is strictly only interested in the benefits marriage can bring. Anyways, there is no logical reason why the government would be interested in the private relationships of people at all. If the government did care about personal emotions and not about the benefits marriage can bring, the government would stop regulating marriage all together and leave it up to the people to decide who can get married and who cannot. “ But, in my arguement to that, society has changed soo much in the past 20 years or so that people don't even put religion into prespective when comes to being gay anymore. Our pope has decided not to change the rule to allow gay marraige to happen because he wants to keep old traditions, but that's the thing in my case, the tradition is SO OLD, why not just let it slide.” I’m also Catholic so I’d be happy to discuss this with you, but for a future reference, you should always keep religion out of debates. People will slap you upside the head for it and the arguments really hold no water until you can actually prove your religion is true (which is basically impossible). However, we both believe in the Catholic Church so that shouldn’t be a problem. First off, the Chruch’s teachings come directly from God through the Bible. God’s teachings ever grow old, never become outdated, are never just old tradition. You see God knows everything, meaning once he has set up a law, he knows it will be beneficial to humanity and to his plan to spread good across the world. God’s laws are unchangeable, set in stone. They can never grow old. The Catholic Church is also set in stone, meaning the Church will always support and the teachings of God and never go against him (through teaching of course, there have been corrupt times in the Church). In other words, this law is simply not old tradition. It is a law set in stone by God to never be changed, and it never should be changed. “There are people out there who are on their knees begging to say either husband or wife to the same gender because they love them, they just want to feel equal.” There is no discrimination against homosexuals because regardless of sexual orientation we all have the right to get married. “And the catholic church is saying no because of old traditions?” It’s not tradition, its law, and it’s a law given by God himself. After all, God knows what’s best for us so who are we to question him? “Think about it, if we're not allowing gay marraige, then how are we accepting gay people? We may be accepting them on SOME sort of social level, but not allowing them to marry is not accepting them on a social level fully.” I actually almost agree with you. However, I think it’s just a misconception set up to make it look like gays are the victims. In fact, I believe homosexuals are trying to make themselves look like the victims here because they want to get married. It’s just not in the best interest of the society for as long as the government regulates marriage though. Every person in the United States has the right to be married. That is equality. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, we all still have the right to get married. “ People are not going by old traditions from the bible anymore, and people don't care about gay marriage on a government level, cause all they want is gay people to be accepted” Yes, and I believe those who do not follow the morality of the Bible, and instead follow their own broken sense of morality will eventually fall. Remember, the law set out by God far exceeds anything some human believes, for God knows everything, all opinions, all possibilities, and God set out a law that will be best for humanity, and best for fulfilling God’s plan. If this is really the case then marriage should simply be privatized and left up to the people. Your duty however, is to argue that under government regulation, gay marriage should be legalized. “Shouldn't we be giving people what they want?” Not if there isn’t a proper reason to give them what they want. I have shown that there is absolutely no good reason to legalize gay marriage for as long as the government regulates it. “I mean, I understand that they're still some people out there who are homophobics, but erase the homophobics for a moment and look at the people that want to be gays to be accepted, then you have a very good ammount of people and reason as to why you should allow gay marriage to happen” All homophobes should be ignored, for they don’t see homosexuals for what they are, human beings. I want gay people to be accepted into society as much as others do. However, it is still not in the best interest of the survival of our society to allow gay marriage for as long as the government regulates it. “If God accepts gays on a certain level (in my opinon), then shouldn't we be accepting them on ALL levels?” God accepts homosexuals and loves them as much as every other human. However, homosexuals to recognize God’s law and obey it. God also wants us to love gays and accept them as he does; homophobes are bigots. However, God also wants us to recognize his law, and obey it. God has strictly set up marriage to be between man and woman, to allow any other relationship into marriage would be directly going against his law, and would be disgracing him. Thank you for providing new insight on this topic, I await your response.