English premier league vs Spanish la liga.

It's been a good debate my friend. Thanks for letting me be a part of it. I. Liverpool a top team According to my opponent, Liverpool have been poor of late because of "their worst manager in the history of the club (Roy Hodgson)" Firstly, Hodgson, while his tactics may not of suited the players entirely, is an exceptional coach. To say he is the worst manager in the history of Liverpool is quite a statement. Pro's arguments pertaining to the greatness of Liverpool are weak. Just because the team is in exceptional form at the moment does not mean they are a "top team." (I still don't know what the criteria is for a top team) Just so you know, Everton, Fulham, and WEST BROM (coached by none other than Hodgson) are in better form that Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, and Tottenham. [1] Dalglish's fantastic form is not a significant argument in itself. Sure, Liverpool are a great club. Are they as great as Barcelona or Manchester United? Definitely not. II. Manchester City and Tottenham – these arguments are nothing special. I don't see any hard evidence in either case to prove these are "top teams." Nothing that I couldn't say about Valencia or Villareal. (Speaking of Tottenham) "They have been the best English club in the champions league this year." I don't believe there is any evidence for this. They were underdogs from the start and the only challenge they had was Inter, a team who has struggled miserably. Well, Real Madrid was the other challenge and they killed the Spurs. Anyway, the players knew this was probably the only chance to play Champions League football in their careers and I commend them for their performance. Top team? I don't think so. " Again like I said earlier con seems to forget that he holds the BOP as well." True, but Pro forgets that it was he who asserted that La Liga had only two top teams, but gave little evidence for this. I'm not even sure what a top team is. III. On the gap differential, Pro asserts that it means the likes of Valencia, Atletico, and Villareal are "Not bad, average." I would ask, what is the logic here? What in fact makes these teams average compared to the Premier League? "However my opponent has not given nearly enough evidence to support the fact that Real Madrid are simply amazing." Forgive me, I figured everyone had seen them play. IV. "the EPL has a strong attraction to foreign players and that the EPL is tougher to survive in." I think the first argument makes no sense, foreign players do not necessarily make a league great. The second argument is unfounded. V. "My opponent still only gave one example, while I gave many; Foster, Carroll, Young, Parker, Downing, Charlie Adam, Barton etc…" I gave the example of Eto'o, Milito, and Canales. If my opponent would like current examples, I could name Xabi Prieto, Llorente, Baptista, Kameni, Ramis, Diego Alves, etc. VI. "My opponent acknowledges the fact that it would be difficult for Spanish teams to play football in the EPL. //When a team tries to play good football in England, (Arsenal *cough) they get their legs broken in half.//" Thus, the EPL is better? I don't see your point. VII. Man United defense is better than Barcelona's "the small amount of goals conceded by EPL teams compared to La Liga teams shows the quality in defense." And Barcelona has conceded fewer goals than Man United, therefore, (according to your logic) Barcelona has a better defense (19 GA to 33 GA). If this is wrong, then your statement regarding EPL's defense is wrong. If correct, Barcelona has a far better defense than Manchester United. Either way, I win. Speaking of Ronaldo, "his best years were at Manu." I don't think my opponent has showed this. As far as I can tell, he plays just as well at Real as he did at United. He's right behind Messi in the race for the Pachichi. Ronaldinho on the other hand, you can tell he's not quite what he used to be. VIII. "Being entertaining does not make one thing better than the other, especially in football." I would have to disagree on this point. Why do we watch football? If football were not entertaining, we wouldn't watch it. That's why we don't watch chess. Football is also an art. And then there is one more quality, and that is passion. Some say the Premier League is the most passionate league, and maybe that's correct. But I think one will also find a similar passion in La Liga. IX. Speaking of Real Madrid – "Con refrains from mentioning a single players name. If Real have so many good players it should be easy to do so." I pretty sure I previously named players. For those who don't watch football, a few of them are, C. Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema, Higuain, Di Maria, Oezil, Xabi Alonso, Lass Diara, Pepe, Ramos, Carvalho, and Casillas. All of them are international starters and definitely world-class. They have two FIFA player of the year, a keeper of the year, and two in currently in the World XI. (Barcelona dominates the World IX and no EPL players are in the XI.) The also have the coach of the year, Jose Mourinho. [2] X. "You'll get players in any league that dive but no league is it most uncommon is the EPL.." This is a very incorrect assertion and there's no citation of anything provided. Pro says that English don't tolerate diving very much, and this is true, but Pro also insists that the EPL is very much made up of foreign players. In the past, there was practically no diving in the EPL, but today, it happens nearly every game, just like in the rest of the world. (When will FIFA do something I wonder?) I hope the readers have enjoyed this debate as my opponent and I have. I hope I have explained to everyone that La Liga has better football than the EPL, the best teams, and the best players in the world. Thank you, Phantom, for the debate. Please vote Con. [1] http://stats.football365.co.uk... [2] All this can be found on: http://www.fifa.com...