There is/can be a True Religion

Thank you."Currently not knowing" is not absolute truth... If you wish to be honest, we have to understand that Atheism and Agnosticism are not religions, or even beliefs. I understand why you said earlier for the sake of this argument that we will consider Atheism a religion, but if we really are talking about the truth, then we have to say what is truthful. This would be a debate over who can come up with the most believable argument, but they can make up the rules to reality as well.I'll point out three things:Your Agnosticism argument makes sense, if we consider Agnosticism an actual religion, something it is not.However you did not specify that along with Atheism, we will consider Agnosticism to be a religion in the rules.If we are looking for the truth, we have to accept that both Atheism and Agnosticism are both truthfully a lack of belief, and for our argument to even be relevant to reality, we have to consider the truth, as this is what the argument is all about.--To say logic does not apply to God would mean we would have to have a complete understanding of what logic is, inside and outside our reality, universe, perception of reality, and so on, especially considering "God" is a supernatural deity. Do we? I don't know. Nobody truthfully knows. And we are looking for the truth.God cannot be illogicalYou said it yourself - "he must therefore be both more intelligent and more logical than man." - He is beyond our understanding of logic. Our knowledge of what logic is falls into our understanding of reality. God, not being a part of our understanding of reality and logic, is unable to be proved, considering it is possible for him to exist and not exist, since we cannot prove we have absolute knowledge of how the universe(s) work(s).Thanks for the argument against what John Shook said, however there is a huge flaw in your argument. John said "something with infinite powers and qualities." You simply said we understand the concept of infinity. Although we understand a very small portion of what fundamental aspect makes up what God could be, this does not mean we know that God does or does not exist.You're correct, we are not in the sphere of the supernatural. We are unable to perform tests on or study the supernatural in any way, and it will most likely be impossible to do so as long as the human race is around to witness it."That is why it is not unscientific to postulate a failure of the laws of science." You are absolutely correct. Science is the study of natural phenomenon. However because we have not found a method to discover or test any type of possible supernatural phenomenon doesn't mean one doesn't exist."Black holes have evidence." Once again, you are correct. So we can actually scientifically study something that goes against the laws of science. This however is one example. Black holes are not supernatural, and do not go beyond the laws of reality. They go beyond the laws of our understanding of science in this area of space."...regarding a potentially supernatural explanation." Emphasis on potentially, I assume? We have not come to a sound conclusion. A "truth" has nothing to do with "our final answer is... we don't know." I like your example. However this is not whether or not we believe in something, it is if it has an absolute truth. Regarding your magical portal with elves, the absolute truth would be that you did in fact go to that place, and that place actually does exist. I mean of course someone could use the argument "maybe this is all just an infinite dream for you," but we won't go there... The absolute truth, according to our understanding of the term and according to our laws of logic, reason, science, etc. is that you did go to that place, whether anyone wants to believe you or not. However there very well could be multiple universes, multiple dimensions, with multiple Gods or no Gods or "partial Gods" or other things I can't even make up. There may not be such a thing as "truth" in a dimension that a God rules. Can we know this? Only if we can perform tests on it.1. The laws of science are different, yes, however we cannot prove a supernatural being that is outside of our understanding of the laws of science by asserting this.2. Correct. This neither proves or disproves god, it in fact opens the theory even wider, giving more possibilities inside and outside our reality.3. "Logic" is a term used to describe occurrences in our reality. God is most likely not a part of our reality, and is therefore not a part of our logic (notice I didn't say illogical).4. If God had any type of unnatural, supernatural, impossible effects on the natural world, our reality, we wouldn't understand it, and it would violate our laws of logic and we would basically have to start from scratch.5. Supernatural claims can be scientifically investigated because they are scientifically sound, and can be tested according to our laws of science and logic, and therefore not supernatural.MY summary1. "I don't know" is not a religion. It is not truth. It is not asserting "yes" or "no," as those are the only two 100% truths, according to our reality, and to go outside of our reality is currently not known to be possible, therefore we cannot come to a definitive conclusion that God does or does not exist.2. We currently do not know if our idea of logic applies to God. We cannot study, observe, test, or even really theorize if God does or does not exist, as it is untestable, and most likely always will be. We cannot come to a definitive conclusion that God does or does not exist, considering it is impossible to test something outside our laws of logic and science and reality.3. We cannot prove we have absolute knowledge of how the universe(s) work(s). Our understanding of one small fundamental aspect of what may possible be an idea regarding God does not prove nor disprove his existence.4. Absolute truth may not exist outside our understanding of this reality. God is outside of our reality. Therefore, once again, it is impossible to prove or disprove the absolute truth about God.For us to know if God exists would imply that we have to literally know everything. We cannot do that. Our reality will not let us do that. For us to understand an infinite deity would mean we would have to be infinite ourselves. We would have to be everywhere at once. But we cannot do that. And if there are multiple universes, multiple dimensions, we can not know for sure what is in them as well as in our own.It is impossible for us to prove or disprove God's existence, as well as consider a religion "true" or not.Thanks for a good debate, you brought up much better points than I thought anyone really would.