The Beginning of the Universe Implies that God Exists

(Con States) Con"s clarification of Pro"s point of relationships of two dimensional objects was to establish that the logic used was irrational and not rational logic. A fixed system is not truly rational because it relies on elimination of all possible points of view/reason to assert a fix group, which may simple be obvious as fact. Saying. Look here! See only one kind of circle. Look here! See only one type of square. We are right together. This is so easy. There is no attack being made on any examples, No! Only locked doors being opened with a key. The key in the form of information, so that examples is only shared equally among debaters. A belief was being described by Pro to instill a set of ideologies to build on, not a wall of limit. Pro has not yet understood how Con used this argument. Time is standing still. When an "immaterial, space-less, timeless, personal creation of the universe," is. Then a material, space, volume set by time shared, creation of occupied space must first be canvas. Canvas is space. It must be placed first in a motionless time and empty container. It is the Ace card placed under the sleeve which must work its way back into the deck of cards unnoticed by all from the payer"s sleeve to the dealer"s deck, in our reasoning of God. The Big Bang! "BA-BA-BA-BA-BANG! Where was the Big Bang? The Big Bang was located at the center of all matter in the known Universe, it was not at the center of all open canvas, known as space lacking matter in an infinite void. Time stands still, we age like fiction just taking a toll on our body parts, mass equals friction created by moving in time, untrue? Decay. Einstein got it wrong Special Relativity is a presumption made on the objects of motion. Moving as they are linked to time and space at consistent speed. It is not my goal in this debate to establish as fact that time is anything more than a historic object, an event incapable to being measure in some form of hidden motion, like the theory of special relativity. We use the Sun, no secret. Up front. Con like Pro lives in a world of time, time zones, leap year, and the international timeline set by belief it has motion. "What is Greenwich Mean Time? Greenwich Mean Time or GMT is the clock time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich London. When the sun is at its highest point exactly above the Prime Meridian, it is 1200 noon at Greenwich. GMT is still widely used as the standard time against which all the other time zones in the world are referenced. It is the same all year round and is not affected by summer Time or Daylight Saving Time. None of this substantiates time is by fact moving. None of it. It is saying that the sun and earth are moving by fact. There is background radiation. Radiation which is said to be from before the Big Bang"s radiation that has been floating in time and space existing as matter simple left as unmeasured, Now said to be from before the creation of universe. Time and space are not the same thing but by theory of relativity can be traveling together, equal, stereo at the same time. Meaning time is measured in side space with measuring device, yet each may not be measured using the same presentable scale. A Liter, a Gallon, A yard, a Meter. A Pound, a Kilo. Clock. ( Pro States) "Impersonal not existing as a person, having no personality." (Con States) There is a conundrum here in our debate. Pro believes that the first measurement is implication that God exists. Con agrees, Con can agree with Pro, no harm no fowl, the first measurement made is a great implication of a God that exists. So our debate is built over a shared argument that can be reasonably redirected to one side, the other side, or both sides. God was in place before the measuring took place. The yard is on the ground before the football stadium is built, the mile is set alongside the road side before it is paved, or planned out. Time was there before space was space? Yes; Time is built to tell space between spaces? Yes; neither needed more or less than the other, thus! One must be translated into motion, into Energy. Debates are not won they are owned. Once owned they are then shared. Pro and Con are competing to own this debate, so it can be shared, its outcome will spread to others. Are names become specs and the idea arrowed the debate grows. Magnetic degeneration is not Gravitation. Energy degeneration is not time. Any removal of energy in form of matter, from space in form of lack thereof is an evacuation only. Relativity only dictates that the basic cause/principle of evacuation need must be greater than purpose of contained energy in space. ( Pro States) "My opponent also seems to be confused in what I meant by the word "God." The argument that I presented makes the case for an immaterial. Space-less, timeless, personal creator of the universe. Thus is the entity which I am referring with the word "God." (Con States) Pro has expressed the set definition God, the goal which needs to be explained, and Con makes all presumption of God as being debated at once. Not as immaterial, simply as hostile material effect, fact described only, to insure a common level of safety. Again, but rephrased. Is the glass half full or half empty? The glass offered is never empty, and by all fact, the glass is always filled and simply lacks a capability by the provider to meet a complete purpose of the user. (Pro"s Premise One.) Everything that begins to exist has a cause.( Con ) Time does not move there for any cause is then in simplest explanation placement of any start. Multiple starts do not defy a law of physics. Thus; are not sufficient to signify the first beginning. Both Pro and Con move into the last Round left to explain the rational idea of beginning without start. There are multiple times because there are multiple ways to which it may be measured. Not because there are multiple demotions that time resides.( Con ) Time does not move. Empty Space is questionable and presumed still or motionless. Cite http://www.space.com... https://www.thoughtco.com... https://greenwichmeantime.com... https://www.google.com...;* https://science.nasa.gov... http://www.factmonster.com...