Evolution is a coherent theory with significant amounts of data to establish its veracity.

Have you put a complex title to show your intelligences? This debate is about "if evolution is significant or completely rubbish". "Does anybody care to defend his statement on any or all of the points." I could not care what this man thinks, all I'm here for is to stop you people from believing in a lie. In any way and in no doubt the comments left after this debate will have nothing to do with Jacoby. As the core of this debate is evolution. Not Jacoby. I'm glad in all rights, that this debate may be educational for some. And that those who believe in evolution or think evolution is real that you will question your self's afterwards. I am no scientist or any expert in this topic but I have studied this verily deeply in my free time. Micro and Macro evolution are easily mixed up. The reason why they get mixed up so much is because people have different ideas on what a species or a certain type of creature is. Let me tell you that a cat is a lion, tiger, panther, house cat, lynx, jaguar, loped and a cheater. And many more. These cats are all in the rage of micro evolution, none are nearer becoming a new species than the last. By their features, which is the makeup of a cat. All cats have rounded and unpinned snaws, a tail and raws even if it is a hiss or a peer. All cats have 4 legs even if they are short or long. All cats have whiskers even if they are short or long, all cats have claws. Another problem is that I may say... "what makes up a cat are all these features" and you may say "evolution does not care what makes up a cat, it cares for what the cat is to become, if the features need to change or not, it means nothing". Then I will say "why are there so many variations in that case, if evolution is leading all creatures in one direction, to be at the top. Why does it seem evolution has a mind behind it. Why would evolution come up with many creatures rather than one all round creature, how does evolution know what was good to start with, why does evolution know what a good fighter or climber is? Where is the motivation behind all these creatures? Hunger? If a creature is hungry it will feed, if a animal is attacked it will die". There is no motivation or commitment by any animal to reach the top. You only think that because you see all kind of creatures. If you were only allowed to see one animal in your whole life you would think it was created. No doubt. If there was only one creature, say a rabbit would you not say it evolved and more like this creature was created as it was. Evolution works and uses what God have made y the amount and variation of creatures there are. Abusing God's handy work. There is not such thing as evolution, again say you were 20 and your dad brought in a mouse, would you think the rabbit evolved from the mouse? Well in a evolutionary way of thinking you would. Because those creatures are the only two, you would think they are alike. Even a elephant and a snake, you would think they both evolved from one another if that's the only two creatures your dad showed you in a evolutionary way of thinking. The truth is that this is not the case, there are billions of creatures, if trillions so who am I to say you are in the right to be wrong. Basically you are wrong but I understand that. I mean look at what God has done. Even His work will stretch your minds beyond truth. Evolution though is a lie. You get brain washed in science lessons, as evolution is taught in science, as a young new to this world school child the last thing a teacher is to expect that you would answer and question back evolution. Unfortunately I was too bewildered by evolution at the time I did not question it, I believe what a science teacher taught. Of course I would it is a science teacher. "You had to be clever to know about science" I would think. So for that reason I did not even think about questioning he teacher. Back to the point: As there are so many creature on this planet of course you would think they evolved, as how else would these creatures came to be? By God I would say. Quick questioning on that first though; as you are a atheist. Say you knew there was no God, and you got into a convocation on a all most powerful being, like a godly figure. Would you not say "If there would be one thing that can judge me one who I am, that would be a perfect being, a being that has done no wrong Him self, human or not, I would allow someone like that to judge me." Sound fair? Since you do not say that, you are not a atheist as you have some doubt in mind which makes you say "Ha if there is a God, why oh why can God judge me, I am my own god" You say the second quotation proving there is such thing as God. I believe so. Now I got that out of my way, why is God such a bad idea? As "if" there was only two creatures here on earth. They are billions alive and living. Big and small, round and square. The size can be a microscopic plagton, it does not matter. What matters is if it is living. Time you say has a large effect of evolution. Then why do I not see any missing links? If time is such a problem with creatures evolving then why are there no creatures having problems in breeding, climbing, swimming, hunting etc. For example if why is not one monkey suggling to climb? I know what your think the mistakes are too small to see. Yes? Then wouldn't then the correct way of climbing a tree also be to small to see, and all you would see is a monkey attempting to climb a tree over and over? But getting better. And the good genes would be pasted down and over millions of years the monkey hich has turned out to be is really quite good. I am not saying that this happens to baby monkies but to adults and the baby monkies would be even worse in till they are adults but still pretty shoddy. What I am saying is that this monkey is not a monkey other wise the struggle would be suttle. I am say that you need in this case to have a half monkey half dog. (could not think of another almost monkey creature, dog is close enough) Now dog's can barely climb, you may get a odd one or two but no more. And say a monkey was to evolve from this dog, I sure you that you would get the dog half restricting the monkey half to climb and you would get the monkey half stopping to dog half to catch prey on the ground. This will lead to the creature dying out as it would be the worse creature there is. Anything but a creature like this is Micro evolution. E.g. A horse evolving into a zebra is micro evolution as nothing new has been added. Fur colour you may say, but did not the horse already have coloured fur? This is why I do not believe in evolution! No matter what scientific wording you offer in the next round, will not help your agurment. You would need to disprove why a half monkey/dog creature could be a legit creature. How it could survive and what would lead the half monkey/dog creature to want to change from dog to monkey. Would this creature be better off remain the same? Would it not die out? And would not a change like this be a personal change? You would not expect this change to be globe? Do you think all monkeys where chased into the trees? If so why now are all monkies roughly at the same stage? There no super monkey, they are all equal in their own right. Some are better at climbing and others are better at social connections. Why do you get so many variations if evolution is heading one way? A race (a human race) 100m's. You do not get one ringing a cab to get to the finish another hopping another skipping and another on a pony. All of the runners would be running. Why don't all the monkeys do the same "tactic" to be the best? I know eviroments. 1 fig tree in the Amazon can contain up to 40 speices of animals. Would they all be the same speices if evolution were truth? Why does so many speices of animal need to be in one tree. I would say God made them like that. What do you say? Disprove me now. No scientific wording will change my mind.