super man would stomp goku

Beating people is not a linear thing. Everybody has different weaknesses. So the argument "A beats B, B beats C, so A beats C" is fallacious. Allow me to show you this with an example:Goku can beat a kilogram of Kryptonite. This is logical, as the Kryptonite cannot harm him.The Kryptonite beats Superman. This is logical because it's poisonous to him.Does this mean Goku will beat Superman? No.Your argument about Darkseid and Doomsday is thus invalid. For instance, in the film "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" we see Superman incinerate an ARMY of Doomsdays with ONE LOOK. Yet in the comicbook "The Death of Superman" ONE Doomsday beat Superman to the brink of death. So, if Doomsday is evenly strong as Superman, and Superman can defeat an army of Doomsdays, Doomsday can also defeat an army of Doomsdays, which means he is far more powerful than himself? Same would go for Superman.So, let's leave the childish insults aside ("rubbish") and look at facts.Some of your facts are wrong. In the animated series, Superman relies on a space suit for prolonged periods in space. http://www.angelfire.com... As can Goku: http://2.bp.blogspot.com...Goku can thus fight in space, as long as his suit doesn't get damaged. Goku would not have to ever engage Superman in direct battle.While it is true that Goku cannot breathe in space, he can still use his teleport to travel great distances through space. He returned to Earth from his battle with Frieza in that way. So, he can still lead Superman on the chase I described before.Collecting the Dragonballs costs Goku no time at all. In the Frieza saga, even Tien and Yamcha collected the Dragonballs with ease.Goku has a Dragonball radar and can teleport. Superman does not know any of this. All he can do is look for Goku with his telescopic vision, x-ray vision and so on, while Goku teleports from Dragonball to Dragonball, taking him seconds at best. Goku could then retreat to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber ( http://dragonball.wikia.com... ) where he summons the Dragon and is undetectable by Superman, as it is a parallel dimension, through which Superman cannot see. Once the Dragon is summoned, Goku could then wish for Superman to be turned into anything. A nice block of Kryptonite maybe?Goku is no less experienced than Superman. He has fought every warrior who ever died in the Afterlife, and is repeatedly called "the greatest fighter in the Universe".The question whether Goku can defeat Darkseid is a totally different one, and not part of this debate.I am not a DBZ super fanboy. I grew up with Superman, and while I do not own a single DBZ toy, I own an extensive Superman collection. Still what you say makes no sense.You, too, give opinions. All your arguments are taken from an unofficial blog. "this will not only be a stomp but a brutal death."Now, finally, I've got you.You are thus narrowing your resolution down to Superman actually brutally KILLING Goku, a fellow hero.I want proof for this outrage. In all of the comicbooks and movies, when has Superman ever killed a good guy? If somebody was possessed, he always found a way to bring them back. Seeing as Goku does not have a single spark of Evil inside of him (evident by him being able to ride his magical cloud and by an early Dragonball episode where he was hit by a devil with a ray that would have exploded him if there had been even the littlest bit of evil and survived unharmed), Superman would NEVER kill Goku.He would work things out with him and save him. Like heroes do.The only possible scenario would be for Superman to become evil. In which case Batman would equip Goku with Kryptonite to stop Superman. Batman has repeatedly intervened to stop Superman in the comics, most famously in "The Dark Knight Returns" by Frank Miller. He holds Kryptonite to that end, and would cooperate with Goku. But, even without that, Goku will just do as I said: teleport Superman into the heart of a red sun, where Superman will sadly die. Goku has no qualms about killing his enemies if they will repeatedly not listen to reason.Your ad hominem attacks at me serve you no good. I am not a fanboy, and even if I were, this wouldn't make a difference for my arguments.Superman converts solar energy into chemical energy, storing it inside his cells ( http://en.wikiversity.org... ). We know it cannot be electrical energy, because Superman USED to store his energy in electrical form, but returned to his previous form again ( http://www.supermansupersite.com... - notice the electric bolts!). Chemical energy is internal energy. Ki is the internal energy of a living being ( http://www.merriam-webster.com... ). Goku can absorb Ki attacks, i.e. all attack that are not brute force, like heat vision, because the heat vision is powered by the inner energy. It is not mechanical energy. Heat vision is thermodynamics. Now, famously Ki can be used to heat up body parts (see video above http://www.youtube.com... ). If heat vision exists, it is clearly a Ki attack.This is science.Prove me wrong.Who or what are "bill attacks"?Goku's god form does not need to last forever. As I stated above, Goku retains the power of the God form after the actual red halo disappears: "In Goku's case, during the events of the film, he is seen losing the form, yet retaining the power, allowing him to continue to battle Beerus on equal grounds in his base and Super Saiyan forms."Goku DOES absorb the energy attack of the God of Destruction: "Goku is able to stop Beerus' energy sphere, barely holding it back, and then he briefly transforms to Super Saiyan God once again and absorbs the massive energy sphere" ( http://dragonball.wikia.com... ). Most certainly, this is more energy than Superman can unleash, since he is still just a mortal being.Goku's stamina has never been examined, but as I said, he has a supply of senzu beans to heal him anytime, refreshing him completely. He can last longer than Superman with those."first of magic is technically not superman weakness"CONTRADICTION TO YOUR DEFINITION FROM ROUND 1: "Weaknesses: Kryptonite (various varieties), red sunlight, magic(effected by magic as much as a human is), cannot see through lead"You defined this as a weakness. Goku has defeated humans effortlessly with his magic staff. Superman is JUST AS VULNERABLE, which means he will be defeated easily BY THAT SAME STAFF.In the famous comic "Kingdom Come" by Mark Waid and Alex Ross, Captain Marvel defeats Superman easily with his magical lightning bolt. Your argument is disproved:http://heroenvy.files.wordpress.com..."how, if superman can sense him and by far is way faster."How does Superman sense somebody teleporting behind him in outer space? Which sense would he use? Goku has the power to detect people through their Ki, from light years away. But not Superman, according to your own definitions.Superman can be taken by surprise, by Captain Marvel, for instance: http://upload.wikimedia.org...This is Captain Marvel's entrance, after which he promptly defeats Superman. It is thus not impossible to surprise Superman. In outer space, Superman has no hearing, as sound does not traverse a vacuum. He cannot use his sight if Goku appears behind him. So, which power does Superman use to sense Goku?Goku allowed Buu to hit him because Buu had absorbed lots of innocent beings that Goku wanted to save before destroying Buu:"Old Kai then realizes that Vegito deliberately got himself absorbed so he could find and rescue Gohan, Gotenks, and Piccolo." ( http://dragonball.wikia.com... ). It was a clever plan showing just how far Goku is capable of planning ahead.Strength is not always a decisive advantage. Goku has outwitted the most formidable of his foes. The famous 300 Spartans defeated an army of Persians. Goku's readiness to sacrifice himself in order to stop evil beings would definitely give him the upper hand in a battle against an evil Superman.I really see no need to take this another two rounds. You are only repeating yourself. I have refuted any argument you have presented with a possible, even probable solution for Goku.And you continue to disregard Superman's character. Superman does not fight good guys to the death. Again, show me a single example where he did.I gave you examples how Captain Marvel defeated Superman, now give me an example of Superman using deadly force against a fellow hero, if you please. Because that is all you have.Goku is hesitant to kill good guys, sacrificing rather himself than others.Again, if both are good, no death battle happens.If Superman is evil, Goku will kill them both in the heart of a red sun. Knowing that his friends could revive him with the Namek Dragonballs, we can consider this a "win". This happened with Raditz.If Goku is evil, Superman will not kill him, but save him."In any of the main DC Comics universes, Superman has never killed a sentient being. However, in the 1988 comic Superman #22, with art by John Byrne, Superman does kill a General Zod from a "pocket universe" using Gold Kryptonite. The experience does leave him shattered, and he begins to question whether he himself is a dangerous being — moral uncertainty that Henry Cavill's self-righteous Zod-killing Superman in Man of Steel does not seem to possess. Moreover, it hasn't ever been established that a Kryptonian fighting a Kryptonian while on Earth could kill the other just by breaking his neck. You would need Kryptonite to do that or a molecular chamber like in Superman II — where it isn't clear if Zod and his companions actually are killed when they're rendered human." ( http://www.hollywood.com... )Will you stop?