The usual arguments #4: Free will

"That last breathe, that last gasp for air, that last pulse that keeps you alive, that is his choice." This means Allah decides when we die. From this, I can prove that there is actually no free will and our choices are Allah's choices. So, let's start with the moment you die. That moment is Allah's choice. "The next question already awaits. The path is already set. As you answer the next question ALREADY awaits." You described free will as a series of questions. Since every single action involves free will and our life is made out of actions, we can conclude that life itself is a series of questions. Our whole lives, we answer question after question. Also, what happens to us is determined by our answers. Every single answer influences our future actions, in influences that will happen to us. Now, let's go back to the moment you die. If every answer influences what will happen to you and death is obviously something that will happen to you, then we can safely say that death is the result of your answer to a question. If order for free will to exist, every single question must have more than one option, each option influencing your future in a different way. "He is All-Merciful for the wrong option ( if "you" go against your better judgment and accept the wrong)" So there is a right option and a wrong option and Allah allows you to chose whatever you want. Whatever you chose, it will influence your life. Again, going back to your death, -before your death you answered one last question -that last question(like any other question) had 2 options, a right one and a wrong one -the right option influenced our life in a certain way -the wrong options influenced your life in a certain way This means that choosing one option means you will die and choosing the other means you will live and answer another question. However, Allah wants you to die right now. It is his choice when you will die. This means that he chooses your answer to the last question. The only way he could make sure you will die at that exact time(when he chooses) and not a second later is to answer the question for you. Sure, this doesn't mean there is no free will, but because life is a series of questions, Allah answering the last question triggers a chain reaction. Let's say you died in a car crash and this was Allah choice. -in order to die in a car crash, there must have been an accident -the accident HAD to happen(otherwise, Allah couldn't kill you in a car crash) -the accident(just like anything else) happened because of your answer to question1 -question1(just like any other question) had 2 possible answers(answer1 and answer2) -answer1 meant the accident will take place -answer2 meant the accident will not take place -since it was Allah's choice to kill you in a car crash, it was also his choice to create the accident -this mean Allah also answered question1 for you Furthermore: -the accident took place on a certain street -you were driving on that street because of your answer to question2 -question2 had 2 possible answers(answer3 and answer4) -answer3 meant you will drive on that street -answer4 meant you will not drive on that street -since it was Allah choice to kill you in a car crash on that street, it was also his choice to drive on that street -this means Allah also answered question2 for you This goes on and on to the moment you were born. If Allah decides when you die, he decides your whole life. In order for something precise to happen(your death), the whole "road" leading to your death must be "fine-tuned". Since the "road" is your life, Allah is really the one who controls your life, not you. Therefore, free will doesn't exist if Allah exists, so obviously the existence of free will can only prove Allah doesn't exist. Also, I want to mention that the series of questions, Allah's choice to kill you and everything else you argued are nothing more than doctrines. You assumed Allah exists in a debate where his existence had to be proven(using free will, not a mathematical formula). "To prove Allah...." As long as you are not using free will to prove Allah, I am not interested. This debate is not about wather god exists or doesn't, it's about how free will can or cannot prove his existence. Since you used arithmetic to prove Allah, I think it is clear you cannot prove his existence with free will, which is the point I am defending. "You must agree Free is limited and if you agree to limits, then you agree to Allah." Free will is only limited by your religious doctrines. As a Muslim, you believe free will is limited and Allah is the one who gives you the questions because this is your doctrine. A Christian would argue that free will is limitless because that is his doctrine. As long as you cannot prove that free will is what your doctrine says it is, it's just an opinion. This is how you and other Muslims believe free will works, but there is no evidence to support this, except your scriptures that are contradicted by Christian or Hindu scriptures. The reality is you mustn't agree to limits, because limits aren't provable. "You can say you have free will all you want but you are governed by laws. If you don't get air you stop breathing. LAW, If you don't have water you die, LAW. " I think you misunderstand free will. Free will means our actions aren't controlled by a deity, that's all. It doesn't mean we can defy the laws of nature. The fact that you die without water doesn't prove free will is limited. You treat free will as a set of magical powers. Having free will doesn't mean being able to fly or survive without water, it means being able to take decisions on your own. What you are saying is that the fact that our life is not controlled by a deity means we should have magical powers. Conclusion: 1) I showed, based on my opponent's argument, that free will and Allah can't both exist, therefore the existence of free will can never prove the existence of Allah 2) My opponent explained free will based on his religion's doctrines instead of explaining how free will couldn't exist without god 3) My opponent attempted to prove god's existence using arithmetic instead of free will 4) My opponent concluded that the limitations of free will prove Allah, but didn't provide reasonable limitations.