Judaism v. Islam

1. Allah, the god of JudaismI will concede to these points: Allah means "God" in Arabic Islam means, "Submission to God. " Muslim means, "One who submits to God" However, it is very clear that the God as Muslims understand it is not the God Jews understand it. If you truly want to "Muslim" (i. e. Submit to God), that God has to exist and has to be the true God. I am arguing that Judaism's God=/=Islam's God Islam Judaism Christianity type of theism strict monotheism strict monotheism Trinitarian monotheism ultimate reality one God one God one God names of God Allah (Arabic for God) Yahweh, Elohim Yahweh, the Holy Trinity other spiritual beings angels, demons, jinn angels and demons angels and demons revered humans prophets, imams (especially in Shia) prophets saints, church fathers identity of Jesus true prophet of God, whose message has been corrupted false prophet Son of God, God incarnate, savior of the world birth of Jesus virgin birth normal birth virgin birth death of Jesus did not die, but ascended into heaven during crucifixion death by crucifixion death by crucifixion resurrection of Jesus denied denied affirmed second coming of Jesus affirmed denied affirmed divine revelation through Muhammad, recorded in Qur'an through Prophets, recorded in Bible through Prophets and Jesus (as God Himself), recorded in Bible view of sacred text inspired, literal word of God, inerrant in original languages views vary inspired, some believe inerrant in original languages human nature equal ability to do good or evil two equal impulses, one good and one bad "original sin" inherited from Adam - tendency towards evil means of salvation correct belief, good deeds, Five Pillars belief in God, good deeds correct belief, faith, good deeds, sacraments (some Protestants emphasize faith alone) God's role in salvation predestination divine revelation and forgiveness predestination, various forms of grace good afterlife eternal paradise views vary: either heaven or no afterlife eternal heaven bad afterlife eternal hell views vary: either eternal Gehenna, reincarnation, or no afterlife eternal hell, temporary purgatory (Catholicism) view of fellow Abrahamic religions Jews and Christians are respected as "People of the Book," but they have wrong beliefs and only partial revelation. Islam and Christianity are false interpretations and extensions of Judaism. Judaism is a true religion, but with incomplete revelation. Islam is a false religion. from . http://www.religionfacts.com...While it is true that there are points we agree on, there are some points that are irreconciably different.2. Honesty of Muhommad Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle? " Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him? " The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i. e. to deceive Ka'b). "The Prophet said, "You may say it. " (Bukhari 59:369) Allah's Apostle said] "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar. " (Bukhari 49:857) When they came to him they spoke to him and made him promises, treating him well, saying that if he would come to the apostle, he would give him an appointment and honor him. They kept on at him until he went with them with a number of Jews… [Once the Jews were disarmed] all the apostles’ companions fell upon their Jewish companions and killed them except one man who escaped on his feet. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 981). Thoe Hadith clearly states that one is able to LIE in certain circumstances. Is it ever okay to lie? How do I know you're not lying about your religion? It is clear Muhommad was not a moral man (i. e. one of his 12+ wifes was 9 years old! ) Peophilia is permitted. The legitimacy of “marrying” pre-pubescent girls who have not yet had their “monthly courses” is established both in the Qur’an and in the "perfect example" set by Muhammad for his Muslim followers. The Qur'an: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same) (65:4) The rule concerns divorce, which obviously implies marriage. Muhammad wanted believing men to observe a three month waiting period before evicting their wives, to make sure that they weren’t pregnant. Muhammad elsewhere encouraged his men to marry “young girls” for sexual pleasure: "Allah's Apostle said to me, "Have you got married O Jabir? " I replied, "Yes. " He asked "What, a virgin or a matron? " I replied, "Not a virgin but a matron. " He said,"Why did you not marry a young girl who would have fondled with you? " (Bukhari59:382) Lest there be any doubt by what he meant by “young,” Muhammad set the example by marrying and having sex with Aisha when she was only 9-years-old: 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: “Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. ” (Sahih Muslim 3309) This is confirmed in many other hadith as well. According to the most reliable traditions, Aisha brought her dolls to Muhammad’s house for play (Muslim 3341) and he would fondle the little girl in the tub while taking baths with her (Bukhari 6:298). Aisha was just a teenager by the time Muhammad died, but she had already spent over half her life in marriage to him Even worse for Muslims is that part of the Qur’an was actually “revealed” while Muhammad was in bed with this little girl: [Muhammad said] "…the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha. " (Bukhari 47:755) [Muhammad] said, “Woe to you, Abu Sufyan, isn’t it time that you recognize that I am Allah’s apostle? ” He (Abu Sufyan) answered, “As to that I still have some doubt. ” I (the narrator) said to him, “Submit and testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before you lose your head,” so he did so. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 814) 3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto Allah partners, for which no warrant hath been revealed. Their habitation is the Fire, and hapless the abode of the wrong-doers. Does this sound like a moral and righteouss man to you? 2. Many people claim to have recieved revelations from God. That doesn't mean they did.3. No evidence the Koran had a human authorSo if the book is anonymous, are we suppose to automatically claim that G-d wrote it? I would also LOVE to see your sources!3. OT valids the prophetThe problem is that those prophecies are so vague anyone can fulfill them. Christians claim it was Jesus! The truth: that prophet was none other than JOSHUAH! If you go through the Book of Joshuah you CLEARLY SEE that it was HIM that was raised up. Muhommad never sinned in Islamic theology; guess what? MOSES SINNED! ConclusionMy opponent took a Jewish verse out of context and applied it to someone it was not meant to be applied to. In addition, his sources never added up because those sources had no sources of their own.