God Must Exist

The Quran Its funny how you claimed the Quran is "The only Source" i use and therefor you somwhat reject it, And not because you find some false in its Truth Also,i used the Holy Quran only a couple of times lol. But anyways........... BACK to MORALS: 1-Everyone that read this debate understands what i said -Murder is wrong, BUT Killing as a last resort for defending ones self,family,land, or belongings is something completely deferent,And that is not Murder. What you did now is you changed what u said(your text is still right above this). 2-Spinoza, Nietzsche, and Herodotus? I dont think i'v heard of em. One would think that since these Philosophers would be a little more know since there "ideas are still built upon". I ask you in what nation or state uses there moral teachings(if there based on what on you logic).What Court uses there morals. All im saying is lets not make some indivduals bigger then what they are for the sake of the debate. 3- YOU SAID "Also, the argument that my opponent made in reference to stealing and murder are not relevant. The person would still know that what they are doing is wrong. This is the basis of morality: that tiny voice called the conscience" Hitler, Saddam Hussein, And ghadafi's Consciece told them what they were doing is right,thats why they did it. If all a person needs is that tiny voice in his head then i guess those were good men,they lived a moral and noble life. -The fact that me and you disagree is proof that,that little voice can never be used as the center source to determine what is right and what is wrong. Otherwise were both right and we dont need to debate. Links Between Faiths It doesent matter what a person calls himself(a muslim,chrisain or jew). The Quran has a principle which says "Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma`il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord; we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)." (84) If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah) never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost. (all spiritual good)." (85)-Chapter 84 So yes,The followers of Jesus will go to heaven,according to islam.But you have to actully follow him.He never said he was god,he never said he came to die for our sins(i can also prove this but it would be another debate),but he did come and deliver the same messege that Moses and prophet Muhammed sent. So as long as you follow that messege it doesent matter what you call yourself.As for the Funddamental diffrence lol,the Quran does say......"Your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then settled Himself firmly on the Throne... (Qur'an, 7:54)" But i dont see the point you trying to prove about this,The quran isent refering to "days" as a literal day,since time is Indefinte.Days means stages.Bu you keep Rolling away from our debate by bringing these things up,I will happly debate you these things on seperate debates.Stick to oursMorality Before Islam, Christianity, and JudaismI think you forgot Prohet Adam(the first man)..........AGAIN The prophets continue the same messege Staring with adam and ending with The prophet Muhammed(completed it)I repeated this so many times2-YOU SAID "Besides, I myself am an atheist. Does that automatically make me immoral? No. I do not cheat or steal, nor would I kill another person under typical circumstances (outside self-defense)."Your right,BUT the fact that your using somthing called "MORALS" is proving your point of veiw is wrong,If you were to use only science,No type of science can you use to determine what is moral and what is not, Your forgeting to answer the qeastion,i dont doubt that you can moral,but WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR MORAL STANDARDS FROM.Counter-ConclusionI we were to look at the law of causality,and apply it the the universewe will see that if it would be immposible for anything to exist because all the causes will go back to the big bang. So,The big bang Aso needs a cause So it can have its effect.If you were to immaging the Universe as being an Infinite line of soilders, And this line (universe) of soilders all have guns and are ready to shoot(effect). But no one can shoot unless the man before him shoots(cause).It would mean that know one would ever shoot(the universe wouldent exist) beause there would never be a first shooter(a first cause), And yet here we are,we exist,somthing must have fired the first shoot(first cause).So that Cause must have came from God.I hope its clear enought this time(btw,Please prove that god doesent exist,you still havent yet,At least one point)