The Bible is immoral.

This is turning out to be a quite good debate. We seem to have hit an impasse on the definition of moral. I will try to clarify. Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation of intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are "good" (or right) and those that are "bad" (or wrong). The philosophy of morality is ethics. A moral code is a system of morality (according to a particular philosophy, religion, culture, etc.) and a moral is any one practice or teaching within a moral code. Morality may also be specifically synonymous with "goodness" or "rightness." Immorality is the active opposition to morality (i.e. opposition to that which is good or right), while amorality is variously defined as an unawareness of, indifference toward, or disbelief in any set of moral standards or principles. An example of a moral code is the Golden Rule which states that, "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself." Source : http://en.wikipedia.org... I have provide 2 definitions of morality. I stated that morality can be used on an individual level or as a collective and further specified that the debate pertained to our society as a whole. My first sentence was "Using examples from a Christian Bible (KJV in my case) and the standards of our society (US judicial system for example) my opponent and I will try to determine if the Bible is a moral source." I believe that the argument is clearly that I don't believe that the Christian Bible and the morals it claims match up the values and morals we have adopted to our society. My opponent claims that "The Bible is absolutely an objective source of morality for those who are faithful to the Bible and Christianity." He further stated that he believed that the bible is the word of God. This is irrelevant to the debate because we are not discussing 1) whether God exist, 2) God is moral, 3) the Bible is an actual representation of the would be creator of the universe. It is simple, our society has morals (codified into laws and ordinances) that have influences and sources. The Bible has morals (Believed to be inspired by an all powerful and benevolent God) which is written as commandments. In Fact there are 613 commandments. http://www.jewfaq.org... We are using morals in the group sense as in what a society as a majority considers right or wrong. I am arguing that the Bible has BOTH moral and immoral teachings and requirements. We determine this by using our legal system as a barometer. In short we no longer use the Bible as the primary source of morals in our society. We find many commandments in the Bible as immoral by our standards and simply allow individuals to follow on their own and prohibit specific one out right. And yes morals do change with time. Con: "My opponent's argument seems to suggest that morality is fluid and changes with society. That as times changes, so do the morals that govern us. In other words, my opponent seems to believe that morals are subjective, and adapt with societal evolution. " Yes, I do. Con: "(Before you bring it up, Hitler was NOT following the teachings of Christ or Christianity, even though his early writings seemed to praise Christ.)" I won't. Con: "Nowhere in the Bible is the mass extermination of ethnic groups promoted or deemed acceptable) Obviously, their actions were wrong and immoral. It didn't matter how many of them believed they were right at the time, or how adamantly they believed it. Their actions were objectively wrong." You are incorrect. The Bible DOES promote genocide. Here is a basic definition: gen"o"cide G2;jenəG6;sīd/Submit noun 1. the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation. synonyms:mass murder, mass homicide, massacre; More Genocide is also wrong in that it: Originates from a heart of hate Involves a desire to dominate Ignores justice and mercy toward the victims Targets its victims indiscriminately, without respect to guilt or innocence, age, status in life, sex, or ability to defend themselves or to be aggressors themselves Generally entails taking the law into one"s own hands Is oriented against the ultimate establishment of justice and mercy in the land Provokes severe terror Forces huge hardship (massive displacement, refugee situations, economic hardship that may extend as far as nakedness and famine) Tears apart families Seeks to systematically destroy not only individuals (in large numbers) but also their cultures or ways of living Rends the conscience of the perpetrators Source: http://www.thinkingchristian.net... You are trying to kill a GENE or genre of people. Genocide isn't always the killing of people directly it could also mean the sterilization of a race. So if you sterilize a race there will be no descendants and you have eliminated a branch of humanity without technically killing anyone. Destroying and identity is also a form of genocide, like kidnapping children and raising them as a different culture or ethnic group. We can all agree that targeting an individual or a group simply because of who they come from is a form of genocide (Jewish persecution). Preventing births is a form of genocide (sterilization of Roma Gypsies in Romania) and destroying identity is a form of genocide (Boarding schools of Indians and Australian Aborigines). I believe that the majority of humanity and American society is against this in general but it is part of all our histories Germany, Australia, South Africa, regretfully the US, AND in the Bible. The difference is that the Bible is NEVER EVER supposed to be wrong. Examples of Genocide in the Bible: Deuteronomy 2 2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the LITTLE ones, of every city, we left NONE to remain: 2:35 Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. 2:36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not ONE city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us: Deuteronomy 7 7:1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out MANY NATIONS before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 7:2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew MERCY unto them: 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand GENErations; 7:10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face. 7:14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle. 7:15 And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all THEM that hate thee. 7:16 And thou shalt consume ALL the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them : neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that will be a snare unto thee. 7:20 Moreover the LORD thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are LEFT, and hide themselves from thee, be DESTROYED. 7:21 Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible. 7:23 But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed. That is a play-by-play of genocide. Not moral in 2014 now