Donald Trump's proposed border wall is more beneficial than not.

Well, that was definitely an interesting rebuttal.From arguing against points I never made, to bringing up Trump's statements after we agreed beforehand that his comments weren't relevant to this debate, this was not the response I was expecting. However you did bring up several great points, so thanks for that!I agree that Trump made quite the rash statement by saying Mexico will pay for the wall before he even began negotiations, but this is irrelevant to the implementation and pros/cons to the wall itself, and on top of that, we already agreed not to bring this up (although I can understand if you were confused by my sarcastic name for Mr. President in the comments).CostYou addressed later in your argument the following: "Imagine where this 21 billions or more could go!" So I think it makes sense to use the same number you ended on, as you're right that there are multiple sources claiming multiple figures. So $21billion is the cost of the wall. Considering the US is in $20trillion of debt, adding $21billion to it for long-term gain/saving would make sense.EffectivenessYou claim that the wall "will not help," "will not deter anyone from crossing illegally," and is "irrelevant." I beg to differ.The Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, implemented a border wall on multiple border crossings along several bordering countries to Israel, and it cut illegal immigration and acts of terrorism down by up to 99 percent [1]. When his plan was in the brainstorming stage, I'm sure multiple people told him that people would just tunnel under or climb over the wall as well, but as the facts clearly show, border walls are extremely helpful when it comes to putting a major dent in illegal immigration and in many cases, terrorism.Another amazing example of a border wall being incredibly effective would be Spain's border wall with Africa [2]. Approximately 2,100 illegals crossed the border before implementation of the wall, and a mere 100 crossed afterwards. This is a 95% decrease in illegal immigration, thanks to a border wall. Again, I'm sure when this plan was in the brainstorming stage, people were criticizing the wall in the same way you are now, but they were quickly shut down when it was proven to be one of the most effective ways - if not the most effective way - of cutting down illegal immigration.So to say a border wall is ineffective, irrelevant, etc. is just a lie. You bring up some possible tactics to bypass the wall, but this is probably the only irrelevant thing in this argument, as the same thing was most likely said when multiple other countries were thinking of implementing a border wall, and their idea - same one as yours - was quickly proven to be not true.Drug TradeYou're right, drugs enter primarily through other ports of entry. This wall is not meant to put a halt to the drug trade. Unfortunate.Amount of Illegals that hop the BorderYou misunderstood me. I never said Mexicans are the primary problem, I said illegal immigration over the US-Mexico border is. I mentioned South America in my argument because people from South America go up to Mexico and hop the border into America. It's also possible that people fly or boat into Mexico to jump over the border, but that's less likely. So my argument isn't "Mexicans are the problem," it's "illegal immigration from Mexico is the problem," which could literally be anybody. My source is a bit outdated, but your source is for legal immigrants, not illegal immigrants. So your entire argument is irrelevant.Illegal immigrants may be less of a problem than they were in previous years, however less of a problem =/= no problem. There are still millions, and there are still plenty illegally entering the country. And the idea that illegals only hop the border and stay in the bordering State falls pretty flat, as illegals could (and do) very easily keep on migrating north to different States. However, over five million illegals live on border States [3], so to suggest a wall is useless because you think the only way illegals get into non-border states would be by plane or boat, doesn't make much sense. If the wall were implemented earlier, by your own logic, it would have kept out over five million illegals.InadmissibilityYou're reading the wrong stats. Although you're right that illegal immigration has slowed down a bit, according to your own source [4], there were still 310,000+ apprehensions of people who were illegally in the country in 2017. That's a lot. And that's simply people who were caught. Less people were caught than the year before, but there are still plenty that haven't been caught.Jobs/Wages"You suggested that illegal immigrants steal U.S. jobs and suppress U.S. wages."No. I never said that in my argument. You also copied and pasted about 90% of your "response," which isn't very helpful.What I said was, illegals don't pay much in taxes. You say they contribute about $11.6billion in taxes per year. If current trends continue, the US will take home about $6.34trillion in taxes for 2018 [5]. According to your source [6], illegals make up 3.4% of the population. And if my math serves me right, 215,560,000,000 is 3.4% of 6,340,000,000,000. So they seem to be about two hundred billion dollars short of what they should be paying in taxes. So yeah, taxes (or lack of) are an issue with illegals, considering they're paying about five percent what they should be.Well, that's about it. Thanks!Sources[1] https://www.hsgac.senate.gov...[2] https://www.theguardian.com...[3] http://www.pewhispanic.org...[4] https://www.cbp.gov...[5] https://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com...[6] http://www.pewresearch.org...