If war is murder, than it should be legal for anyone to murder anyone.

I thank Koopin for his responce. "War. No matter what religion they believe in, most people agree that war has been around since the beginning of time." Pretty much, yes. "It has lead to nations being built, and has ended countless empires." Which makes it right? "Mankind has, and most likely always will use war. " 'It's always been that way so it must be okay'? "Many of these wars are the product of greed, in which countless lives cease to exist." Shows how its wrong. "These wars spread across planet earth like wildfire, destroying everything in its path. These wars are without a doubt, unpardonable." Again, evil. "Though, this does not mean that all war is unjustified." Anything can be justified, but it is the justification right? In some cases yes. The only time a country should fight is to defend itself, and never go to another country for the fight. Truely defensive war is rightous, not greedy, not going to a country and taking revenge because of what some did, not trying to force your way of life on that country. If even most countries did that, it would grow. Especially if international trade with non-compliant countries ceased. In war both sides think they are right, or more justified. Its easier to believe the country that is being invaded, is the one that is less wrong, reguardless of what they are doing. "Although most people do not want to admit it, there is such a thing as a necessary evil." I admit that as the world has been, is, and probably always will be, there are necessary evils. Does that mean we shouldn't try to reduce, or even hope to eliminate such problems? --troll example-- The best thing to do would be to come up with a plan with the fat guy, if time is slow then pushing him off may be justified. --ticking time bomb-- I am never against torturing a terrorist, rapist, murder etc. especially if you may get valuable information on how to save innocent lives. When someone infringes on another's rights, they lose their own as far as I am concerned. -Korean example- Two wrongs do not make a right. The government is being evil, but evil acts can be punished while the law abiding, scared, and already victimized citizens, aren't punished as much, as those in power. Stop trade with them, break ties, set standards as to what they need to do to get business back. Its not instant, neither is war, but it helps more then it hurts. -British to American example- I don't believe it was fully justified, no. I agree with the Boston Tea Party, I agree with most anything really, but when war started I could no longer agree. Who fired the first shot? I've always been taught no one knows for sure, it does not matter, it was not justified by either of them. If they wanted independence that much and I was running Great Britian at that time, I would let them. I would not supply them with anything until they agreed to be under my rule, or it was plain they did not need me. If I was an "American leader" at the time I would continue peacefully protesting, maybe even take the ones sick of the English authority further west. In neither case would I prevent the U.S from being created, but rather make it more peaceful, and use zero dirty tricks. -Canada/US syrup example- If Canada is being attacked by the US they have a right to defend Canada and their yummy maple syrup, and their citizens, and anything else that would need protected. They do not have the right to crash planes in the US, nuke the US, or in any way attack someone that is not a US soldier or leader. If it is just some rogue US citizens bombing and attacking Canada, Canada does not have the right to follow suit. -World War II- But was Hiroshima, and the Japanese Concentration Camps in the US justified? No. Those born from survivers of Hiroshima to this day are still born deformed, with cancer, and numerous other health defects that affect their lives, even though they never bombed anything, even though they are only two years old, no matter how innocent the people are they are still being hurt and killed. "Many people today want to feel like they are that someone to stand up against all the bloodshed. They want to come together and say ‘enough is enough.' But what these people do not understand is that mankind is not perfect. If mankind was perfect, there would be no need for war." Mankind is not perfect, but it can improve. "There will always be a need to go to war, a sad fact, but a true one." It is sad, and while I agree the cause will always be there, how we respond can evolve so the innocent don't have to be killed or hurt. -----Now to address the resolution----- Now What I mean by "If war is murder, than it should be legal for anyone to murder anyone." basically that if you support the troops, if you support the war, etc you support murder. Main causes of war are greed, revenge, and not accepting a countries beliefs/practices. (<----including religious wars, and Koopin's Korean example) If you support fighting for these causes, with innocent people being bombed, raped, attacked, orphaned, abused, tortured, just for living in the wrong place, or believing the wrong thing, it should also be acceptable by your standards, to support it on a much smaller scale. Example- If a young girl is raped, her or anyone close to her should have the right to find who raped her and attack, torture, and kill him. Some may agree with the morality of it, but it remains against the law. If a seriel killer killed your son, and you saw it, but the jury doesn't believe he did, you don't have the right to kill him, he gets to live. If you disaprove of pot, you then have the right to rape, attack, kill potheads. Or even just bomb a neighborhood where its common, or even if you got some/most of the potheads, maybe some innocents too, you will still leave some children orphaned. Gangs should be allowed to do whatever but if you hate gangs you could kill them yourself or with a group of like minded people that would kill them. All justified the same way as war. Thus if war is okay so is murder within a soceity, often deemed as illegal. Basically if a non-defensive war is legal, so is killing someone for the above reasons.