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Death Battle

My Round 3 wasn't very good either. Time for the Cross Examination.Rebuttal: "[Difference between gouard sand and ground sand] could include the speed as ground sand is much slower than the gourd sand and the gourd sand has the ability to stop Amaterasu which has been shown to burn the ground to nothing."Sand? Burning the ground? Yeah no. But is the sand from the ground different material than the gourd sand? If real sand gets wet, it sticks together, so I'd imagine why a thicker liquid would slow down Gaara's sand."This also brings me to another point i wanted to make earlier in the debate my opponent claim Gaara"s sand uses chakra. Which in some aspects your right but only with ground sand as it"s stated in shippuden that Gaara"s Gourd sand was made by his mothers chakra so therefore requires none of Gaara"s and thus can be used endlessly."I kind of want to see a source for this. Can you show me where the Naruto Wiki talks about the creation of the sand?"The abilities of the gold dust include many many times faster then his sand but also not as durable, Gold sand also can not be slowed by oil and other such things. I await my opponent reply." So Amaterasu can just use various brush techniques to take out the gold dust. Possibly even use a glaive.Overview:Gaara himself is nothing special. But the main thing to worry about is his sand control and his magnet release with the gold dust. Gold is a very malleable metal, and considering the Power Slash cuts through iron ore and diamond, gold is nothing new. Now, the sand. Rain might hinder the sand a bit, and ink perhaps more. Also, Amaterasu could use a Rosary to attack from afar, damaging Gaara's sand armor, eventually even Gaara himself. Now, the question is "Can Amaterasu stop the flow of sand"? When you really think about it, it's an interesting match up. So what do you think?
Death Battle

I would like to point out that the only time we see sand being slowed down is when Gaara is using ground sand and not his gourd sand which we have no idea how it would react as apposed to the sand he creates from the ground. Although this may not be a good remark on my part but there is some evidence. This could include the speed as ground sand is much slower than the gourd sand and the gourd sand has the ability to stop Amaterasu which has been shown to burn the ground to nothing. This also brings me to another point i wanted to make earlier in the debate my opponent claim Gaara"s sand uses chakra. Which in some aspects your right but only with ground sand as it"s stated in shippuden that Gaara"s Gourd sand was made by his mothers chakra so therefore requires none of Gaara"s and thus can be used endlessly. Also lets say that the sand does get rendered useless by said characters ink, Gaara inherited his family"s kekkai genkai allowing full control over the gold dust which he did keep after defeating his father and carries with him. The abilities of the gold dust include many many times faster then his sand but also not as durable, Gold sand also can not be slowed by oil and other such things. I await my opponent reply.
Death Battle

Sorry for the long delay. Without any further delays, here's my rebuttal.Rebuttal:Gaara is powerful, sure. But he has a few weaknesses. His sand manupulation relies on his chakra, meaning Gaara will continue to grow weaker, possibly enough so that Amaterasu could do some damage. Also, if Gaara'a sand gets covered in oil, it makes it hard to control. Throughout Okami, we're shown that the Celestial Brush can cover people in ink, as well as draw on paper. It's possible that Amaterasu can nullify the sand altogether by putting ink into it.So Amaterasu could beat Gaara, theoretically. I don't know if Amaterasu would think to do this, though.
Death Battle

I believe Gaara will win against the opponent for a the main reason being his sand which i will now list the stats and feats of his sand Attack potency: Gaara"s Sand is Potent enough to actually bury an entire city with ease. Gaara can actually change the land scape to his liking with sand as well as form weapons and use other elements with his sand (usually lightning) Gaara can also end a fight very quickly if he manages to get some sand into the opponents body, From there he can either kill them or control them like a puppet much like blood bending from Avatar Agility: Gaara"s sand"s agility and speed is massive as it was able to block one of the fastest attacks if not the fastest attack aka Amaterasu as well as being able to keep up with the Raikage a being who is almost as fast as Minato. Its also worth mentioning that he can make his sand become much faster if he chooses to use wind release but this does require chakra Durability: Gaara sand is incredibly durable and highly resistant. this is shown many times. Although the most incredible would be when he stopped dozens of meteors effortlessly. Gaara"s sand no longer has its previous weaknesses as he added his fathers gold dust to it making it nearly impenetrable. This can also be said about his sand armor Abilities: When Gaara is in serious danger his sand takes the shape of his mother making it much harder to even touch him. Gaara"s sand can also form the impenetrable defense which is a large dome that forms around Gaara that is not only nearly impenetrable but allows Gaara to keep attacking and see with the eye of sand and should they get to close spikes will shoot out of the dome. The only thing shown to break this is the lightning style"s chidori which is now rendered useless as there is metal in the sand, this is do to magnet release which allows one to control various types of metal. Should Gaara manage to grab his enemy with his sand he can easily crush them, encase them in solid gold rendering them unable to move and unable to breath, or bury them many miles below the earths surface where they will remain. Overall Gaara is incredibly intelligent and powerful with his abilities to control sand and metal, not to mention hard to hurt and so thats why i believe he can take down Amaterasu
Death Battle

I saw you debate on a death battles so Ill challenge you to one! Rules are simple: 1) The character must be vulernable to normal attacks aka no superman 2) Your character cannot be immortal. 3) You can only choose 1 character 4) No trolling of any sort 5) No changing info until Round 5. So if you choose say goku and then say its goku black that will not count 6) Forfeiting counts as an instant loss. 7) The fight will take place on a large island, no preparation, morals off, and bloodlust on. 8) No outside help 9) We will be discussing 5 Stats; Strength, Agility, Durability, Abilities, and Feats 10) Your character must already exist. No creating your own character for this fight. 11) You must give some background before starting. MY BIGGEST RULE THOUGH NO SAITAMA. Stats: Strength: How much damage the character can deal. Agility: How fast and nimble the character is. Durability: How much damage your character can take. Abilities: Casting magic, teleportation, etc. Feats: Has he done anything noteworthy? I'll be choosing Gaara of the sand waterfall from the naruto franchise
Immortality above all else

Ach, I simply must find someone to talk with this about. Sure I could try another site for a more active forum, But I am fond of this site. So to the debate section I go! Pretty much, In this debate I take the side that immortality, Existing, Being alive should be held as one of the highest values of a human, If not th'e highest value. By that I mean more than living your life, But actively searching for some way to vastly prolong it in a fashion more than diet and safe living. I mean whatever the means, Mind uploading, Cloning, Genetic engineering, Cryogenics, Immoral methods, Yada and so on. Such a pursuit is what should matter to a person. Now then rules, If you accept this debate, You accept the 'spirit of the debate. Voters are free to vote as they wish without being tied down by RFD, But I would be appreciative for voters being honest and good sports about it, As well as saying something if they'd like. If you desire any clarifications regarding the debate, Just' ask me in the comments.
Immortality above all else

You said "This is my third debate on immortality. What am I seeking with it? Debating for? I think it's validation. That immortality no matter the cost to myself or others can be justified. " This sounds very selfish and unrealistic. Immortality is an age old concept and goal for many people. Although there has been progress in the scientific field, Like I mentioned with telomeres, I don't see a solution arising anytime soon. It's certainly unlikely to be in our lifetimes. Do you have any background in biology? Is this something that's even attainable as a short term goal? It sounds like you're going through a life crisis where you're looking for meaning or distraction? If this is what you want to chase, Go for it. I don't really have an argument against this, Because it's subjective. Maybe a therapist would be a better first goal? Someone to talk to and work through your issues. I'm just going to be honest with you - you're not going to be immortal. You should probably revise your short term goals to something else. You said "I've been rather rudderless since High School. Spent a couple years being a NEET, But a mix of a parasitic life being unfulfilling, Encouragement to get a job, Fear of death without immortality, Fear of never succeeding all my life, I got a job for about five years. Finish up with it in six months. Started with nothing, But saved a bit since then. But what now? " I agree you should value existence, But perhaps pick a reasonable goal? Find a field of study that interests you and go to college for that field. You certainly won't find immortality in a roll of the dice.
Immortality above all else

This is my third debate on immortality. What am I seeking with it? Debating for? I think it's validation. That immortality no matter the cost to myself or others can be justified. Sure, Anything 'can be justified. But, I'm 'trying to be reasonable about all this. Thing is, I'm coming to another crossroad in my life, Where I have to decide on what path to take. Sure I can choose to not choose, Settle on down to the side of the road under some tree shading over some lush and comfortable grass for a nap or a meal. But, I don't have forever to wait and think, Some parts in life are time sensitive. I have heard of telomeres, Basic concept as I take it is they keep losing bits as they replicate and this causes aging. I'm pretty sure 'true immortality is impossible. But I'd settle for being able to flip a coin a thousand times a day and being able to live as long as it landed on heads at least once. I've been rather rudderless since High School. Spent a couple years being a NEET, But a mix of a parasitic life being unfulfilling, Encouragement to get a job, Fear of death without immortality, Fear of never succeeding all my life, I got a job for about five years. Finish up with it in six months. Started with nothing, But saved a bit since then. But what now? I can't go back to living at home, And fortunately have the means not to. Any job I can think of does not appeal, Nor does waiting for meaning to come to me. Grasping at immortality though. . That sounds fulfilling. To me, Sounds full of purpose and right in meaning on what a human should strive for. . . And so we come back around to validation. I mean what I say, No matter the cost. No matter the immoral price. But, My knee jerks at that. Generally, We want to fit in, Confirm with our society in at least some fashion seen as positive. Hah, A mix of morality and reasonability in the odds against success. But despite that, A figurative horned shadow on my shoulder whispers of ego. That I'm right in my conclusions that people should value existence, Particularly their own more than anything else. That even if it were a one in a million chance, Immortality is worth the effort.
Immortality above all else

You are correct in assuming I am an atheist, And I don't believe in any form of life after death or any other spiritual nonsense. You said "Would you agree with me that people, Should desire to live and exist? " I would say generally speaking, Of course. If this debate is only about your personal subjective feelings towards mortality, Then sure, I agree that you can have any views/desires you want. I'm confused on what I'm supposed to debate here haha. Off subject, But since we aren't really "debating", You might find it interesting. Are you familiar with telomeres? They could be the secret to the immortality you seek. If you're not familiar with them, You should Google them :) About the only other way I know of for you to reach your goals is to find a way to have infinite mass so you can travel at/faster than the speed of light. Objects move slower through time as they move towards the speed of light. If you could find a way to do that, Problem solved. Although, An infinite mass is theoretically impossible.
Immortality above all else

You raised a good point about religion that I was actually planning to bring up in my next round. I don't think any religious people would be interested in immortality and missing out on their promised rewards in the afterlife. You said "Artificial selection. . . Population, And as you say, The limited space and all the issues with it. . . This does not seem to me to be too different than our current condition. " This to me seems drastically different. Currently we have people dying between the ages of 1-100ish. Their footprints and impacts on the environment and resources are released when they die. If we have people living forever, Whatever that would mean, We have astronomically increased this demand. You said "On the other hand, The environment might do something itself, The people might choose to live more in virtual reality than reproduce, Perhaps government and country shall decree a one child policy. . The point being that immortality, While possibly exacerbating a problem, Would not be causing a new one. A problem that surely requires a solution, Better sooner than Too Late. " This is very speculative and doesn't sound well thought out, No offense intended. It also hints of socialism. Immortality would be causing many new problems. One example - how would a life sentence in prison work? We would have prisons overran with life-time inmates that would exponentially waste our resources and footprint. Also, What is a life sentence? Is there a crime that is worth punishing someone for eternity? Would that be comparable to Hell on earth? Laws would need to be revised. This would have drastic impacts on socioeconomics and many other political domains. You said "An argument for the good of society could be that brilliant minds are sadly lost to ageing and disease. That if they were allowed to continue and grow, Might add leaps and bounds to the progress of humanity across many fields. " Maybe, Or maybe AI and quantum computing is the future think tank. This debate seems to be centered around whether an individual should seek immortality above all else. At it's core, This is very subjective so it's hard to debate when it's just opinions. The only thing I can really debate is why it's a bad idea, Using logical arguments that would prohibit or hinder the future our of species.
Immortality above all else

1st priority for a nation or a society I agree, Probably wouldn't be immortality. To myself that does not mark out immortality being the 1st priority of an individual. Though as you point out, It is subjective speculation. I would not think that theists or spiritual people with a belief in some life after this one would be expected to have living forever on Earth as their highest priority. But speaking for myself, With no belief of anything after. Existence, To me, Is all that there is. Moral consequences there would be, Though I'm leaning toward saying that it would not matter whatever the consequences, If 'I could still exist. Lucky me, I'm thinking the consequences would not be so much bad morality, As they are changing society. Society, I assert, Has near always been in constant change throughout human history whenever some new tech, Environment, Law, Social condition has come about. That we would change again is no great loss. Artificial selection. . . Population, And as you say, The limited space and all the issues with it. . . This does not seem to me to be too different than our current condition. I expect that something must change in our society from where it currently is to try some method of coping with our ballooning population. On the other hand, The environment might do something itself, The people might choose to live more in virtual reality than reproduce, Perhaps government and country shall decree a one child policy. . The point being that immortality, While possibly exacerbating a problem, Would not be causing a new one. A problem that surely requires a solution, Better sooner than Too Late. An argument for the good of society could be that brilliant minds are sadly lost to ageing and disease. That if they were allowed to continue and grow, Might add leaps and bounds to the progress of humanity across many fields. Ah, But I still need to address the artificial selection bit. Eh, I say. Competition and luxury is again part of the human condition thus far. People of means live better and longer lives. People who aim for certain parts in life are more likely to have 'it than those who do not.
Immortality above all else

I'm not sure I would want to live forever, But that's just a subjective speculation lol. What about the environmental consequences of people living forever? How would we sustain them (global warming, Food, Shelter, Jail, Etc)? We have a finite amount of resources and our population grows exponentially. We are already pushing boundaries. What about the moral consequences? We would be basically performing artificial selection on ourselves. In order for this to be a 1st priority, I feel like we would need to first figure out how to sustain immortal life. Perhaps space stations? Colonization of Mars and other planets?
Rap battle 2

lol your lyrics tickle, this diss made me laugh "I'm not enlisted soldier" work on your wordscraft Cuz you sound weak n' you sound retarded To illustrate how you can't, one of his lines says "respect ya elders or get laid flat" Gotta be careful with this 37 year old or i'll make you have a heart attack You can shoot me with a thousand choppas n' shatter doors n' level floor The only reason you rap about guns is cuz you just wanna be hardcore You never held a gun in your hand so all you talk is garbage How in the heck is a old man like you gonna do some damage? Notice how he said he's a fling, that's just so wrong! But that's ok, cuz in this society, it's ok to wear a thong What you just rapped doesn't make sense Make sure what you say isn't a capital offense
Rap battle 2

I'm not enlisted soldier, I aint concerned with rank,/ try to further educate me? when you gone learn you cant?/ I will never retreat, I just turn-n-flank,/ and hit you harder than an armour plated German tank,/ dismember your whole team, remember you sold dreams?/ had people thinkin that you really controlled things?/ new and up in comin', and im just some old fling?/ under the belt fouls from a couple of low swings?/ But I'm back! takin' yo stacks like tax,/ Yo stats, slowly diminisin' from kung fu slaps,/ quick, medium, and even strong attacks,/ web swings, drill claws, and thunder claps,/ not an x-men, but I "x" men with rap,/ push em off the deep end, so they dont extend the crap,/ all that puppy love battle, they pretend to rap,/ "Somebody loan me some lyrics I can lend this cat!"/ 'Cause it's fact, you vagina, with hair like a bitch/ but you and your gay lyrics cant f*ck with this!/
Rap battle 2

Bars are for the weak, i spit multis, it's the truth that i speak, leave your wife dead on the street You seek destruction, i'll end your streak with a streak n' leave you with a widow's peak Was that too long of a rhyme? It's only cuz i'm reckless Slice your head off with my lyrical sword n' leave you neckless I only worship 1 God, not idols so i don't make him jealous I'm Zealous, so like a rock, i stone you til you turn to chalk I'll make you talk so that you admit to the world you just a clot In someone's arteries, pardon me, but recharge your batteries Last round, you got tossed n' served like a salad Now i don't know if your rank is even valid Callous, cuz i'm eatin' a balanced meal, it's a habit Like a rabbit, i'm stompin on you like i grind Salmon
Rap battle 2

Im lookin at yo stuff, like this cant be real,/ bet when women see yo nuts, this is how they feel,/ never goin for the kill, 'cause yo flow is distilled,/ I'll take a sip of "the sickest sh*t you ever spit" chilled!'/ you, endeavor for skills, I will, never sit still,/ we are total opposites: forever and nil,/ like feathers to anvils, mountains to ant hills,/ I'm a thousand times bigger, like nickles to "Grant" bills,/ the truth is "you cant deal", you rant but you stand STILL,/ scared to make a move around soldiers that can kill,/ I give a f*ck how yo fans feel, its "boxers" in Man-ville,/ if we ever see yo thong, then you gettin ya tan peeled,/ you gay and irritatin' like email that is spam filled,/ your sex education is 'just practice some hand drills!",/ You are a, "Master of baiting", get it, "masturbating"/ this is, a rap battle, not mass debating!/ Keepin the people waitin for that imbecile flow?,/ "corruptable indestructible" is illogical bro!,/ "battle me, not my problems" is a problem for sure,/ you got ninety nine of them, not to mention some whore,/ and its so wrong of me, to add with it more,/ but there are no "cheap tactics", enacted in war,/ If you aint really tryin to fight, what you battlin' for?/ go ahead say I aint fair and tattle some more,/ Throw yo, gat on the floor and put your white flag up,/ throw the yellow one down, "he unnecessarily rough!",/ see, we use to people snitchin', and tellin on us,/ that aint rap, you just bitchin', failin' to bust,/ I can see you aint sh*t, you can tell that im tough,/ when people in they own sh*t, they cant smell it enough,/ but before I quit, I'm going to kill that linger,/ as I aerosol crap from this r&b singer,/ Lef Illegal
Rap battle 2

It was a cheap tactic for you to blame me n' read my forums 2nd round you talk about my mom, now you spreadin' oxymorons I'll admit i struggle with some women, but least i'm learnin how to be better But when i come over you, i just passover, eat your sedar like chedder I'm dealin' with women, but when it comes to you, i don't hear nothin' You censorin' your cussin' cuz you soft as a muffin, think you a man, you bluffin' Son, what'd they tell you about judgin' your spiritual elders? Let he who sin cast the 1st stone, if you were me, you'd be in shelters Cuz when you in my shoes, you'd do the same thing too But you tell me to "fight a man" cuz you live in the zoo Your a contradiction referrin to women as a breast despite my anger, I see women for what they can be: the best but you so worried about what i do on the outside, you lookin' death in the face pick up the pace, a corruptible indestructible taste that's bitter in your case I'm loyal to my quality friends, you just hatin' cuz you ain't got none You battlin me not my problems, i'm on one, put a hole you plus some I might be shunned, but you out-gunned by my lyrical pun that leave you done I don't need a tech nine to make you mine, you already a carcass in my eyes You like unleavened bread, you on the rise, but i fixed you, now you meet your demise Let God hear your cries as i baptize this sinna so look to the prize that binds ties Real eyes realize real lies...you judgin' me based on all of my wrongs But ignorin' all the bad stuff you did like wearin' thongs, singin' LGBT songs Since you wanna talk about judgement, you got one comin' to you not the one in the future, but the one right now like the giant i slew Your comin' to eternal torture as we speak cuz you made a mistake We don't need evidence of a fiery furnace to show you burnin in hell's lake The Devil looks at you n' says "I don't want him sleepin my bed" What i spit has got to be the sickest lyrics that i ever said