God exists

=Rebuttals to your Rebuttals=1. Something existsMy Apologies, I should have been more in-depth. The purpose of this argument, was the universe had to have had a start, and before that there would have been nothing. Because nothing cannot create something, such as matter, God must have made that matter to form the universe2. The Mathematical Proof of GodI have few characters remaining so I will skip this for now.3. Godel's ontological argumentThe article I posted was simply to prove that Godel's proof is correct which it does. It doesn't show the proof because i didn't need post it, because I put it on the argument. If you do need to see the proof it is on this PDF at page 8. PDF: http://wwwmath.uni-muenster.de...My opponent also refers to the proof as mine. This is simply untrue and all credit goes to Kurt GodelAlso my opponent also states ". If my opponent wants to use formalized mathematical proof he ought to rise to the challenge and make his proof respecting mathematical rules and notations" That is untrue as it does. Now looking back at it I think DDO might have butchered it (I Copied and pasted). The Proof is here on page 8: http://wwwmath.uni-muenster.de...As for my conclusion, it explains all you need to know in the argument itself. However I will add a conclusion here if my opponent demands it. Conclusion for #3 Argument: Godel's Proof is above. If you follow the Proof closely you can tell the proof does make sense if you follow it it also has been proven as shown in this quote "Using an ordinary MacBook computer, they have shown that Godel's proof was correct -- at least on a mathematical level -- by way of higher modal logic. Their initial submission on the arXiv.org research article server is called "Formalization, Mechanization and Automation of Godel's Proof of God's Existence." This qoute shows that the proof has been successfully proven, therefore proving that god exists, due to that being the result of the proof.Source: http://www.spiegel.de...4. Watchmaker ArgumentI agree with you that complexity doesn't determine the creator, however it is usually a factor and is why i posted it. However my opponents argument against this is "we have perfect naturalistic explanation for how they could come into being without intelligent designer" this is basically what we are debating about, and he provides no explanation about what he is talking about.5.Pascal's WagerI know this really isn't proof, however just a logical argument on why to believe in god.=Rebuttals for your Arguments=1. Problem of informationFirst off the bible does contain scientific evidence not know back then. It displays the creation of the planets with startling accuracy, as shown here:"data from these two telescopes is revealing that planets like the Earth are formed in the exact same fashion as described at Genesis 1:2, 3. According to NASA, planets form inside a proto-planetary disc of dust and debris, starting out in a formless and chaotic state in total darkness, as describe in Genesis verse 2. "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep."NASA's scientists have discovered that as the planets mature inside their dusty cocoon they suck up all the dust between them and the sun so that the planets slowly emerge from darkness into the light as described in Genesis verse 3. "Let light come to be." Then there came to be light."See more here: http://www.christiannewswire.com...As for instructions on how to live, the Ten Commandments were made for that exact reason (If you don't know what that is look it up).As for the contradictions, you claim it should be clear to misinterpretation because of omnipotence? God is omnipotent, not the bible, God didn't write the bible therefore it wouldn't be perfect. People wrote the bible, they are prone to mistakes and therefore could mess up the bible. Also mind you, most of the bible was written at a different time, in a different place, therefore probably resulting in most of your misinterpretations.2. Problem of evil and gratuitous sufferFirst off, exist means have objective reality or being. Tell me does coldness exist? No. Coldness is the absence of heat. Does darkness exist? No. Darkness is the absence of light. My opponent claims "therefore evil and suffering exists". He is wrong in the sense of evil existing. Evil is the absence of one thing, God. God doesn't make evil, evil is what happens when a man doesn't have God's love present in his heart. Jesus was an example for us, he helped and healed us. After that we tortured, crucified, and killed him. However when he raised from the dead, he forgave all of us and took our sins away. God wants us to follow Jesus's example and help people just like him, when we don't do this evil and suffering is the result. If everyone followed and acted like Jesus, there would be no suffering or evil. God is giving us a chance to redeem ourselves, his forces are present, however many people don't accept them. =Arguments=1. Scientific Evidence in the Bible I said this in the rebuttals, however I will post it again here. The bible has told of the formation of planets with startling accuracy, long before telescopes, this quote shows it if you don't believe me:"data from these two telescopes is revealing that planets like the Earth are formed in the exact same fashion as described at Genesis 1:2, 3. According to NASA, planets form inside a proto-planetary disc of dust and debris, starting out in a formless and chaotic state in total darkness, as describe in Genesis verse 2. "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep."NASA's scientists have discovered that as the planets mature inside their dusty cocoon they suck up all the dust between them and the sun so that the planets slowly emerge from darkness into the light as described in Genesis verse 3. "Let light come to be." Then there came to be light."Source: http://www.christiannewswire.com...As shown above the formation of the planets matches with the The Book of Genesis's description of how earth was formed. How is this possible? It must be that God told of the formation of the plants to early humans.2. JesusHopefully everybody knows the story of Jesus. How he came and helped us, yet we tortured, crucified, and killed him. After this he rose from the grave and ascended into heaven, with 500 witnesses seeing it, not counting women (Women were thought of as unreliable back in the day, so they didn't count them as witnesses). So tell me how could Jesus rise from the dead and ascend to heaven if there is no god? It doesn't add up.=Conclusion=Once again I end here. I have shown proof of god in my arguments, and showed how my opponents arguments are false. I wish luck to my opponent, and i sign off.Vote Pro! Sources:1. http://www.christiannewswire.com...2. http://www.spiegel.de...3. http://joshuamarshman.theworldrace.org...4. The works of Blaise Pascal, Kurt Godel, and Leonhard Euler