LM CLassic Semi-finals: Puck vs Logical-Master

>>>>>>>>>>RE: First Contact Part 1 Alright, the crux of CON's point here is that Sinister can just redirect Apocolypse's psionic energy no matter how weak or strong the technique is. Based on how this is described, the only way for me not to end up relying on my contingency plan is to provide reason for this technique being vastly overestimated. In the very next issue (X-man #19), Nate Grey refers to Sinister's technique as an "ambush", hence proving my initial assertion regarding the attack http://img130.imageshack.us... http://img130.imageshack.us... Also, the second link indicates that he used Grey's friend in advance to create himself a psi-map that would allow him easy access to Grey's mind. Sinister has no such advantage against Apocalypse. Second, CON points out that my evidence indicating that Sinister stood no chance against Apocalypse is irrelevant since this took place before Sinister grew more powerful in having his abilities vastly augmented. In other words, if I can show evidence that Sinister feels the same even with his upgrades, my point is to be accepted. Sinister still acknowledges his inferiority to Apocalypse not just in saying that the mutant will destroy all of his work in one fell swoop, but that he needs Cable's help in the first place . All of which is shown below: http://img31.imageshack.us... http://img9.imageshack.us... http://img706.imageshack.us... In regards to Xavier vs Sinister, Xavier is most certainly his superior. In X-men Legacy 214, the two have a psionic duel in Sinister's attempt to take over his body. Sinister loses quite badly and is possibly dead as a result. http://img42.imageshack.us... http://img132.imageshack.us... Thus, it is fitting to say that Apocalypse >>> Xavier > Mr. Sinister. If Apocalypse can take down Xavier with a casual mind blast, just imagine what he'd do to Mr. Sinister during this battle. In addition, it should be noted that Sinister showed no ability to redirect Xavier's psionic powers during this encounter. The same should be noted during his battle with Cable. Given that this is the case, I'd once again like to refer back my explanation of Sinister's technique above. Finally, in regards to my comment regarding Apocalypse detecting the watcher, the point is that Uatu's (The Watcher) powers allow allow him to uphold his strict code of ethics based upon strict noninterference. He supposed to be virtually undetectable by pretty much everyone in the Marvel Universe, yet Apocalypse can casually detect. My pic does indeed describe vast psychic power. >>>>>>>>>>Batman's contingency plan. The contender raises several objections which I shall address numerically. 1) In regards to evidence of the motherbox being an item which Batman actually owns: http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com... In JLA Classified #1, Batman debuts his "boomtube gauntlet" (essentially, a motherbox and a sample of element X combined with his specialized glove, built by none other than Batman himself). With it being more than merely a mother box, it would explain why this item doesn't show up on those pages . 2) The motherbox is an artifact of the source; not the source itself. Furthermore, Batman is NOT the motherbox. The motherbox is nothing more than a tool, hence only being as powerful as Batman allows it to be. With this being kept in mind, as long as he restricts it's use (i.e. not using the abilities CON objects to, although omnipresence isn't listed as an ability and there is no way it truly has omniscience or else Darkseid would have found the anitlife equation long ago with his), there is no possible way for my opponent to argue that it violates the rules. 3) CON argues that Spiral can just contain Doomsday by placing him in a stasis field, yet if you'll look at his scans, Spiral has to be conscious of those whom she was using her stasis spell. With Doomsday capable of hitting speeds past light, she'd be unable concentrate on him, much less detect him. CON's only hope is to assure that Doomsday is never given the location. 4) My opponent accuses me of making no real argument against Sage's boost. Other than insisting that has had ample time and opportunity to acquire such power only to still be no match, no. Still, if CON could provide a description of how much Sinister's power would be increased, I'd better be able to answer this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>RE: CON's assault: Once again, I will respond numerically down the line in accordance to each of his responses. 1) CON's states that Amazo's location would be irrelevant, but this has nothing to do with the point I was making. Saying Apocalypse could teleport to Amazo's location was in response to him pointing out that Amazo doesn't have Apocalypse's powers at the time of his team's initial assault. Basically, he could quickly escape Sinister's entrapment via "contact" (presuming it's successful) simply through teleporting out of his energy field to Amazo's vicinity. 2) CON accuses me of deception based on my R1 Amazo having Apocalypse's powers and me supposedly acting like I changed my argument as if to only just now use this in response to one of his points, but I've addressed this above. Look back to CON's R1. He states "Granted at this stage Amazo has Doomsday and Spiderman's abilities, not so Apocalypse." Furthermore, my R1 strategy has in no way changed. I specifically pointed out that Amazo would be immune to sneak attacks at this point in the battle with Spidey's spider sense. With spider sense, he is quickly prepared to act upon the counter measures I described in the previous round. He comprehends what's about to happen seconds before it does. Since Amazo isn't using to sense to counter specific movements, the spider sense should prove highly effective. 3) If the nannites can indeed swarm in such a vast area, then batman can alternatively boomtube the duo to an enclosed building after being alerted by CON's proposed attack (via Spidey's spider-sense). Still, since CON has provided us with no reason to believe that Amazo's telekinetic/energy field wouldn't do the job, this move shouldn't be necessary. 3) Regarding deadpool, see my response on CON's issues with the motherbox. 4-5) CON claims the bubble field conjured by spiral isn't energy but rather dimensional magic. However, isn't this still mystical energy? Nevertheless ... in response, if the bubble field isn't made of mystical energy, Amazo could alternatively use Apocalypse's powers of teleportaton to teleport into the bubble field. Con might argue that Spiral could simply reduce the overall size of the bubble field or just place bubble fields around each of her teammates rather than just have one big one surrounding them all. Amazo would merely need to decrease his shape/size to adjust to any such changes. In fact, there's really nothing to stop him from telefragging each member of team CON (i.e. teleporting into each of their bodes, preferably a vital organ, only to kill them from them inside with the full extent of his powers). 6) As he hits the detonator button, Spider-Man uses his super human reflexes to quickly web the explosives and dispel 99% of the blast. He was able to do this to two missiles being fired at him at close range, so it should be a simple task here: http://img515.imageshack.us... Of course, both him and Batman could just as easily hide under his cape as it's set in it's explosive resistance mode as seen in the film Batman Forever. With the attempt failed, Spidey and Bats continue to follow Deadpool, with him having less time to prepare. Or again, Super Amazo could eventually take him out. --- Till next round ...