Does God exist

I begin with the Islamic Greeting of Peace, and by seeking refuge with Allah (swt) from Satan the accursed and in the name of Allah (swt) most gracious most merciful "I already said I agreed with you when there might have been a cause for the beginning of the universe. The problem is that you're giving credit to a God, which you cannot absolutely prove or justify, to the cause of the universe." Con agrees that there must be a cause to the universe, I already proved however that the cause must be eternal, so it too wouldn't require and explanation, it must be immaterial, so it could be infinite, and it must be intelligent so it could chose to create a universe, all these are attributes of God Con then goes on to argue that the universe is a computer simulation, but I already addressed that and asked who created the computer simulation. If the universe is a program in a computer game who created the computer, was it aliens, robots, or people? all these are finite beings they would too need a creator, the creator of the universe has to be eternal and that can only be God. "No, you have inductively reasoned this because you are only using common sense and reason to bring your point. Had you've been deductively reasoning to me, You would've been conducting an experiment to foolproof prove to me that a Creator exists." We can't do an experiment to prove this physically, but we can do mental experiments and use logic, because something eternal had to have created the universe it couldn't be something finite like a computer programmer, because then we could ask the question who created the programmer? Even if the universe is a simulation, someone had to have created it, the creator must be eternal so it too doesn't require and explanation. "Say one deems your logic reasonable, what then? He then asks, "well, which God is the true God," and you would express how your God is the most fitting, but what if he doesn't like your God. Say, this person has now converted to Hindu using all the reasoning that you have used in the first place. Then the most reasonable, who has viewed this whole situation, would believe it's unreasonable to believe either, and unreasonable to try and prove such a case when our knowledge of the universe, is not complete enough to make such assumptions." Which god is the true God, well there is only one God, as the Quran says, "Say He is Allah the one Allah the independent and besought of all, He begets not nor is He begotten and there is none like unto Him," God is an eternal independent being, and there is only one religion that worships such an independent being and that is Islam I already proved that God must be eternal so He too doesn't require and explanation and that He must be immaterial so He can be infinite and eternal, sot this proves that the God of Islam exists as for Hinduism they believe everyone is God, if everyone is God why can't we control the universe Christians believe God is a man, but how can a man be God if he was created only Muslims worship the eternal creator whose existence I have already proved "The problem with the Morality argument is that you imply that only a creator can impose moral code, when man cannot. Throughout history we have seen laws imposed independent from religious beliefs. The United States federal law deems it illegal to smoke tobacco on federally funded elementary schools. This is not a law that has any sort of ties with religious ideas, but we as a society abide to it, because we are intellectually capable of what good this can bring. God did not make this law, man did. Man can make moral code." Man can only create what is legal not what is moral, if it was legal to kill people would it mean that it was morally justifiable to kill people? No why is that? because we know there is a God and a final judgement, and God said don't kill people or you'll burn in hell, and that is why we know killing people is wrong "Also, the atheist community comprises of only 9 percent of the federal prisons, when they are 30 percent in the census. The chances that a lawbreaker or evildoer is a religious person is highly more likely. A reasonable man would recognize this and conclude that religious ideas do not correlate with morality but more with society and nature. Morality does not correlate with religion or a God. Is there a moral good that a religious man can do that an atheist man cannot absolutely do? Is there a moral evil that an atheist man can do but a religious man have not done?" No where in the Quran does it say to go around killing people and committing crimes, you can't blame religion for what certain extremists do, just like you can't blame Darvin and Evolution for Hitler and Stalin who believed in Social Darwinism "I have objectively concluded, THAT WITHIN THIS SOCIETY, it is wrong to kill someone because of the pain and suffering i'd cause not only the loved ones of said person, but the pain of this society. Anyone who cannot come to the conclusion of why killing is wrong, without the notion of a God, needs to seek mental help. If, for the sake of the argument, God was to be ULTIMATELY and ABSOLUTELY disproved tomorrow, would YOU go harm society? If you would and you believe every religious person would also do so, then I think evil comes from religion, don't you think? If you wouldn't, why wouldn't you? Of course, you would reason with yourself how killing is not a nice thing to do, and you would use reasonable conclusions without the idea of a God." Who cares about society if there is no God, we are all going to die aren't we, so why not go around killing people. If there was no God I would kill myself because I will die anyways and no one could stop me, who could stop me from killing people and getting away with it. Only God can and he gave us the moral code in his Book the Holy Quran and from it do we know what is right and what is wrong and if we do wrong we will be punished and you can't blame religion (unless it's a crazy cult that does encourage killing people) for a few extremists, no where in the Quran does it say such things, so you can't blame Islam for anything "You do not need God to be good." You do need God to be good, because God is good, how would you define Good and Evil without a God? Con missed some serious points in this debate He still hasn't addressed who created the computer simulation, the transcendental argument, and the Quranic Argument and why no one has been able to write a chapter like the Holy Quran Con tries to use logic, but in doing so he is borrowing my worldview, the laws of logic are immaterial, and can't be made by humans because then they wouldn't exist and there would be no logic and no conversation atheism/materialism says everything is made up of matter, but these laws of logic aren't thus disproving atheism/materialism Con has to address this point listen Con, Muhammad (saw) was no poet, how could he have come up with the Quran, while there were poets thousands of times better than him who could not Mecca's whole economy ran around idol worship, so when Muhammad (saw) started preaching there is only One God, it ruined Mecca's economy, The Meccans tried to stop him, they tried to give him money, women, and power, but He said if you give me the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left I will never stop preaching They then persecuted Him and his followers, and killed many of his followers, but still he didn't give up all they had to do was create a single chapter (3 verses) like the Holy Quran, to stop him and his preaching they had the best poets of Arabia ever, but they could still not do it. That is proof that there is a miracle in the Holy Quran, therefore God does exist I hope you address my points next round inshallah Jazakallah