The christian god exists

I apologize for screwing up the formatting of the debate, this is my first time using this website or having any online debate at all. That being said I guess we can re-structure the debate to be a (somewhat unstructured) back and forth between the two of us. This of course means that you will have a third round while I will only have 2, but this is fine with me if it is O.K with you. To begin my argument I would like to say that I personally do not question the existence of Jesus Christ. I do not affirm his existence either. I think it is far more likely that Jesus did exist than that he did not. Now accepting Jesus's existence as fact, I find it impossible to accept other aspects of his life as fact (ex. walked on water, cured sick people, change water into wine etc.). *though these miracles are widely known to be within the bible, just to be in accordance with the rules http://www.jesus.org... You point to Jesus's apostles loyalty, in their willingness to die for Jesus, as some form of proof that Jesus was legitimate in what he preached. Well, this is yet another argument that holds no weight at all for me. Take a look at the Jihadists involved in 9/11 or any other Islamic Jihad that involved devout muslims sacrificing their life for their god. In order for Christianity to be true, and for the Christian god to exist, Islam must be false. Therefore, according to your belief system, all the Jihadists who have sacrificed their lives were "willing to die for their beliefs, which has historical proofs, while people by far are known to wouldn't [not?] be willing to die for a scam". Either you must admit that Islam is true, or you must admit that your point about his apostles loyalty is near meaningless. Also, all of this is working on the assumption that Jesus's apostles truly were willing to die for him, you cited no source for this information, but I digress. Your next point, "putative miracles occur to followers of the Christian God, while the same sort of occurrences have not been shown to occur to atheists". Your word choice of "putative" is interesting to me. If you can point to me a single instance of a miracle that a christian experienced that is putative within, the general world, the scientific community, or any community independent of christianity, I would be very interested. Perhaps your definition of miracle is different from mine. I define the word miracle as "a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency", therefore to me, the intense feeling of awe one experiences while looking into the eyes of their newborn does not qualify as a miracle, for this infatuation can be explained by natural or scientific laws. Your final point is another that I feel is very easy to dissect and expose as erroneous. "People experience Jesus in near death experiences, while they by far do not experience other religious figures". The notion that people who experience near death only experience jesus is false. Below is a link to a website encapsulating the testimony of a jewish woman who said to have seen angels of death in accordance with her Jewish faith when faced with near death. http://www.near-death.com... All of your arguments have been based around non empirical testimonies of individuals (or sometimes groups) belonging to the christian faith. I would like to stress to you how easily fabricated these stories can be with this example of a boy who wrote a best selling book about his meeting with jesus when he experienced a near death. If a six year old boy could do it, and write a book that was revered as truth by thousands of christians, what makes you think others couldnt do the same? http://www.dailymail.co.uk...