Naruto Uzumaki can beat Monkey D. Luffy in a fight, if not equally match him

Con goes to much in detail in theoretical assumptions, therefore I will do the same.http://www.youtube.com...____________________________________________________________The Nine Tails Solution"When comparing the characters of two shows, it is necessary to make their fighting mechanisms compatible."-While this is true, Con must realize that there are some things that are not compatible due to their huge differences. To make them compatible would mean to give one an advantage over the other, like Con has so conviniently done based off of a few minor similarities."So? If a gun was alive, it would still kill people the same way: by shooting."-That's what I'm saying! If a gun was alive, it wouldn't need someone to hold it. It can choose who to shoot and who not to shoot. -Is Con suggesting that a living entity with it's own conciousness is the same as a tool just because they both give their users destructive power? This is of course a rhetorical question."If the Nine Tails is just like a Logia user in terms of strength and ability, then it is logical to conclude that it also has similar weaknesses."-Con is conviniently basing his assumptions off of common similarities he finds between do very different things. The Nine Tails is not vulnerable to water, thereby refuting his statement that Logia users and the Nine Tails have similar weaknesses. -Making the two shows compatible in this way is not fair because then the Nine Tails would be vulnerable to water. Therefore, Con is deliberately trying to make the shows compatible in his vision to give Naruto a disadvantage. -Con is mainly integrating Naruto into the One Piece universe. However, Con's way of making the two shows compatible can work both ways. By Con's logic of compatibility, Luffy's Haki would be Chakra if put in the Naruto universe, and Chakra is not very effective against the Nine Tails."Sub-conclusion: Nine Tails CAN be a Logia."-And Haki CAN be Chakra."However, this point works against my opponent, as this would clearly make the Nine Tailed Fox a physical being that CAN be hit using haki-infused attacks! (ever heard of fighting fire with fire?)"-How can Haki work against Haki?-This would not be fighting fire with fire, because the Nine Tail's body is its Haki while Luffy's body contains Haki in it. Therefore a better analogy would be fighting fire (Nine Tails) with a Molotov Cocktail (Luffy) because Molotov Cocktails have fire in it and can cause a fiery destruction. Yet if put together, the fire from the molotov cocktail would not harm fire, but add to it, and in the end the total fire would melt the glass of the cocktail. -And according to the link provided below, the Nine Tails is centuries old, thereby giving him more time than Luffy to be able to master the "Haki" that it is composed of, therefore theoretically it would also be able to use Haki even more effectively than Luffy.http://naruto.wikia.com...-If the Nine Tails is completely made of "Haki", then it's abilities would be more flexible than Luffy's because Luffy's Haki abilities are restricted by his body. The Nine Tail's body would be its Haki, therefore it's abilities are more flexible, able to do more with its Haki."the Nine Tails armor is a SEPARATE ENTITY from Naruto, and thus, once that separate entity has been defeated, Naruto is left with no armor." -As mentioned my me, the Nine Tails cannot be defeated unless you seal him. "If Nine Tails is made of Haki, Luffy's haki-infused attacks will STILL work on it" -Con has not provided a mechanism as to how Luffy's Haki-infused attacks can work against a being made completely made of Haki. -I have shown through analogy of the fire and cocktail, that the Haki attacks would not work on Haki itself.-If indeed it does, then it all comes to who has the stronger Haki: the boy who discovered its existence and trained with it 2 years ago, or the being made of Haki who had centuries to perfect it."Thus, Luffy and Naruto have EQUAL levels of durability." -I haven now established that Naruto's level of durability is in fact stronger than Luffy's.Brute Strength "When I say "brute strength", I'm talking about the sheer force of their physical attacks.The sole purpose of Gear Second and Gear Third is to add to that, so they do count..."-So Con is saying that techniques that Luffy developed determine brute strength. Why, by this meaning, Naruto's Oodama Rasengan has just as much Brute Strength as a punch from Luffy's Gear 3rd.-Therefore Naruto and Luffy are equal in Brute Strength.Special Advantages"It has been shown that in that mode, the Nine Tailed Fox goes on a mad rampage with no regard for who Naruto's actual target is. This has been shown repeatedly throughout the show, with the problem becoming so so bad that Naruto has to have a ninja with him during training (Yamato) JUST to make sure he doesn't turn into Nine Tails!" -Con is clearly not up-to-date with Naruto. Naruto and the Nine Tails came to even terms and became buddies and now he doesn't go on a mad rampage. Now, he definately will focus on the actual target. "The Nine Tails Armor may give Naruto a huge boost in strength and defense, but the fact is, that Naruto cannot make Nine Tails do what he wants during battle, which means that by using the Nine Tails Armor, Naruto sacrifices his control over himself."-Naruto can tell Nine Tails what to do and Nine Tails would probably do it. They're buddies now."Frankly, Pro seems a bit obsessed with the battle being underwater...." -And con is a bit obsessed with making the shows compatible to his advantage."Underwater isn't Naruto's ideal battle field either; he has absolutely no experience in such a setting." -I am not arguing underwater, I am arguing on water. Naruto can run on water just as fast as he can on land. A lot of his important battles have been held in a setting in which he must run on water such as his last fight with Sasuke before Shippuden. "Pro disregards the fact that Luffy is perfectly capable of staying out of the water."-I just refuted this in the last round by giving a possible situation and setting in which Luffy would not be able to stay out of water. Con's example of Don Krieg proves nothing because Don Krieg is certainly weaker than Naruto and in that particular situation, Luffy always had a place to stay away from water. In my example, Naruto destroys the whole ship, leaving Luffy with no place as refuge from water."Pro overestimates the threat that water poses to Luffy."-No I don't. Water is very much a threat to Luffy. "Luffy has easily taken out 500 Marine soldiers at Ennies Lobby, 1000 zombies at Thriller Bark, countless marine soldiers at Marineford, and, most recently, 50,000 fishmen at Fishman Island. Numbers. Don't. Faze. Luffy. At. All." -I stand corrected. Luffy has never faced hundreds of Naruto's shadow clones. The 500 soldiers and 1000 zombies are not Naruto and are not clones. As mentioned previously by me, Naruto's clones would not harm Luffy much, but they would certainly confuse him to a degree. Speed "I really do apologize for bringing up this issue so late into the debate, but the argument I used to concede Naruto's speed actually was logically fallacious."-Viewers remember to put this on the scoreboard. "Look at videos 1 and 2. There are SEVERAL instances of him moving so much faster than light that he appears invsible."-I knew you'd bring that up. I don't have to view them because I've already analyzed them and concluded that he does not move as fast as Naruto. At around 3:00 in the first video Luffy indeed moved so fast, Blueno could not see him, but Blueno could still kind of follow with Luffy's movements, because his speed is similar to sound's, not light. -The speed of CP9's Rokushiki is not as fast as light. And it's speed, perforemed by Lucci, matches Luffy's, therefore Luffy is not as fast as light.http://onepiece.wikia.com...;"Luffy BEAT a man MADE of LIGHTNING"-Are you kidding me? That had nothing to do with speed! The Lightning Man stood still and let Luffy punch him! That was very slow compared to Naruto. Enel is certainly not as fast as lightning in the video provided by Con, therefore Con's argument is invalid.-Furthermore, Luffy had a great advantage over him because electricity does not harm Luffy's rubber body."Luffy's attacks can be faster than lightning."-No it can't._____________________________________________________________________________________Conclusion-Rebuttals "No matter what Nine Tails is made of (Logia or Haki), Luffy's powerful Haki attacks will be sufficient to knock it out."-As mentioned previously, the Nine Tails can't lose its conciousness, therefore it cannot be "knocked out." And now it has been established that the Nine Tail's "Haki attacks" would be stronger than Luffy's."We have already deduced that Nine Tails can be knocked out with Haki.And Naruto's Nine Tails Armor has its own disadvantages, such as lack of control."-Nine Tails cannot be knocked out. -It has been established in this round that Naruto can control the Nine Tails Armor because they became best buddies."As I showed, the likelihood of an underwater battle is very low, and simply the presence of water at the battlefield will pose a very minimal threat to Luffy, due to his combat experience and adaptability."-You did not show anything. In fact, I showed that the likelihood of the setting be on water (not underwater) very high because most of the Earth's surface is water. _____________________________________________________________________________________ *Nevertheless, I have shown that it is possible for Naruto to defeat Luffy if the setting were to be on water. And if you were to refer to the title, it says Naruto can defeat Luffy. Props to con for a great debate!