' Life is cruel, and unnecessary , by our own definition of same '

All right. So you say, "[I] might not like what [you] are saying but have not said a word of it is untrue". In the sense of that I have a problem with your facts, no, I havent. Hitler did kill 6 million jews. The united states is responsible for many atrocities. The problem with your argument is not your facts but the claim youre trying to prove with them. I have provided counterevidence, facts, in earlier rounds at least equal to your number of facts. But as I maintained before, the facts are besides the point. Because whats really wrong with your argument is your method. Youre blowing certain facts out of proportion and presenting them in an extremely biased context without respecting cases without cruelty, pain, etc. Then youre making extremely global claims as to what that one sided analysis is supposed to prove. So youre taking one piece of information about a beheading in Syria for example, applying to that to say Syria is cruel, unnecessary, etc., then even going firther saying that this proves humanity is all of these things, then finally, in such a ridiculous fashion, saying that this makes life itself guilty of all of these things. The chain of logic and assumptions is so long and hyperbolic beyond belief and with not nearly enough evidence or clearly worked through rational steps tht can be taken seriously. Thats why more often I've attacked the laziness of your methods than I have your facts! Your facts arent bad. They just dont add up to what you are trying to prove. And as our conversation continued, you refused to take seriously any of my counterevidence, so I stopped giving it. In any event, this debate has been long and full of many different subjects of relevance. Lets get back to the real point in question. You are asserting that "life is fundamentally cruel, unnecessary.... [etc.]". I took the counterposition and said it was not. Let me remind you, that as you were making the assertive claim, and the burden of proof was on you the entire time. I listed counterexamples to human cruelty. I talked about Haitian Earthquake relief, the Marshall Plan, IMF, World Bank, German asylum of Syrian refugees.... all things which do not mean the holocaust never happened or that the American government doesnt still commit atrocities, but which puts them in a perspective together where we can say those horrible things are not the only things that have ever happened. I debunked your essentialist point of view and its logical problems as making your statements extremely hazy and unsubstantiated. I showed that "necessary or unnecessary" is an absurd question when it comes to life as we have nothing to which to prove ourselves necessary or not. I painted evolution in its rightly positive light, where besides acknowledging some of the bleakness of its survival of the fittest (not strongest) conclusions, that it more fundamentally holds a positive messge of connectivity with nature and other life. I left arguments against your covert disbelief in altruism. As much as I may have not addressed some of your claims (to do so with intellectual rigor would have been endless considering the amount of ridiculous claims and shoddy logic you employ), you also avoided discussing my counterpoints on many instances. In any event,we have a total of arguments and points for those observing to consider. I hope you all see reason. If theres any one thing I think Ive done right, I think it has been to build my arguments carefully with intelectual discipline while my opponent has built his arguments on blank assertions, biased presentations of evidence, and astronomical leaps in logic. That I occassionaly began to lose my temper in debating someone with a much looser sense of epistemological standards, I apologize for. Life is not all cruel, base, evil, suffering or unnecessary. You can exagerrate the importance of and pile on fact after fact, but youll never prove it because its not true, and because even a handful of counterevidence proves the whole object otherwise. Not to mention that there are oceans of it, which I havent even bothered to list because common sense should provide you with enough, and they are valid. Dont trade your life, my life, or certainly all of life for a cosmic oblivion if you ever have the chance, as my opponent suggests. It would be literally, a total loss.