Islam is THE main threat to liberty and life and Judeo-Christianity is key to PRESERVING BOTH

First of all, I don't know what it is with you and personal attacks. They don't mean anything coming from a 38 year old hatemongerer who spends this much time on the internet. Let's review your points from the last argument: "Ok so theres your Nazi-Islam bound-at-the-hip tied through history" Congratulations, you found one Muslim leader who had ties to the Nazis. So what? Does this man speak for all of Islam? Of course not. I can name many Christian leaders who either were a part of the Nazi party or directly influenced Nazism. Let's start with one you may have heard of: Martin Luther, the man considered by many to be the founder of Protestantism. Luther's 60,000 word thesis "On the Jews and Their Lies" is considered by many historians, including Robert Michael, Professor Emeritus of European History at the University of Massachusetts, Dartmouth and Diarmaid MacCulloch, Professor of the History of the Church at the University of Oxford, to have been a significant influence on Hitler and the Nazis. Consider this speech from Hans Hinkel, head of the film department of the Nazis' Propaganda Ministry: " "Through his acts and his spiritual attitude, he began the fight which we will wage today; with Luther, the revolution of German blood and feeling against alien elements of the Volk was begun." The Nazis even celebrated a holiday called Luther Day. When Hitler came to power, he consolidated all the Protestant churches in Germany into one "German Christian" Church, which emphasized the evolution of religion into the power of the Aryan race. Among Germany's 17,000 pastors, 3,000 of them joined the movement, despite being free to oppose it. The Church was very influential in the Nazis' initial consolodation of power. These two points prove both the influence and involvement of Christianity at the very core of Nazism. However, to equate the actions of a few with an entire religion is entirely oversimplistic. Your claims such as "as an officer in the Ottoman Army, Muhammad Hajj al-Husseini would have been at the very least a witness to the Armenian Christian genocide" have no meaning in this argument. Harping on the actions of one man is not enough to tie an entire religion with the Nazi movement or any other movement. "maps in Palestine and other arab nations DO NOT have Israel on them" So the people who were displaced in the Zionist movement are anti-Zionist? Who would have thought? Many people throughout history have been anti-Zionist, including Gandhi. Was Gandhi therefore a threat to life and liberty? Your claim here is weak. What does this have to do with being a "threat"? Simply because they refuse to recognize a country which they deem to have come about through illegitimate means? "So what IS their problem then, genius ? the Jews for just exisiting? our foreign policy? years of suppression by us meanies in the west? " This is the closest you have come to being right about anything so far. The Bush Doctrine, with its preventive wars that kill hundreds of thousands of Muslims, regime changes that put men into power who will support our interests without considering the politics of the region, and unchallenged US military superiority as a deterrent against disagreeing with US policy, has angered many people around the world. Especially in the Middle East, where US intervention has always smacked of paternalism. "Huh? how about the 1.3 million armenians slaughtered? how about the HUNDREDS of millions who have been murdered, enslaved, tortured, and what not for 1300 years by Islamists and muslims?" I'm not really sure what you're referring to here because as usual you fail to provide factual support for your argument. Granted the Armenian Genocide was a terrible event, but to simply say that it was Muslims killing Christians is to completely distort the situation. The Ottomans fought in World War I on the side of the Central Powers. In February 1915, the Ottomans attempted to encircle the Russian Caucasus Army. Despite the odds being in their favor, the Ottomans failed, blaming the Armenian Battalions of sabotage. The Ottomans then went about killing or exiling a vast majority of the Armenian community. However, if you look at the website for the Armenian National Institute explaining the Genocide, you will find no mention of the words "Christan" or "Muslim". (http://www.armenian-genocide.org...) "Now what you DONT seem to get is that Al Queda, MB, and the HUNDREDS of other terror clubs (http://www.prophetofdoom.net......) REPRESENT THE REAL ISLAM, AS PRACTICED BY THEIR TRUE SPIRITUAL LEADER MOHAMMED" What evidence do you have for this? This is just another baseless claim that you apparently have no intention of backing up. The link you provide simply gives background information on specific terror groups. Muhammad called both Christians and Jews "People of the Book" and viewed them as natural allies of his time. He even married a Jewish woman, Safiyya bint Huyayy, at one point. So how can you equate the anti-Semitism of today with Muhammad? You are letting Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban define what Islam is. Every time they release a tape saying that they are "true practicers of Islam", you and your hateful friends are standing up and applauding. Doesn't that strike you as sick? It's almost as though by saying this you are "emboldening" the terrorists (haha). In the words of your pal George W., "Islam is peace." (http://www.whitehouse.gov...) "Really, theres no problems in Indonesia with muslims? try again" Thank you SO much for bringing up East Timor! You have once again made my point for me! On December 7, 1975, Indonesian Forces invaded East Timor by air and sea using an arsenal of US-supplied weapons, and doing so with US approval. Don't believe me? You can read all about it right here in the National Security archive! (http://www.gwu.edu...) This invasion led to decades of fighting between East Timor rebels and Indonesian troops until East Timor gained independence in 1999. There you have it, another instance of US intervention causing trouble in the Muslim world. The second link you posted, regarding Jakarta, is about a possible terrorist attack that never materialized. Guess who did the warning? The US. Another instance of fearmongering in the hopes of garnering more support for our "War on Terror". Finally, you list one more link, citing a terror attack 2 and a half years ago that killed 22 people. I hardly think this qualifies as proof that Islam is a threat to our life and liberty. What about the Virginia Tech massacre that killed 32 people? Is that proof that Korean-Americans or angry loners are the main threat to our life and liberty? "Duh? Its called INTELLIGENCE and the BUSH ADMINISTRATION That is why we havent been attacked, and there have been HUNDREDS of PLOTS foiled by GOOD INTEL, including the Holland Tunnel and Fort Dix." Again, I would like to see your evidence for this. Every time a terror plot is "foiled" the Bush Administration makes it public. Remember the 7 guys in Miami who wanted to blow up the Sears Tower? The Attorney General held a press conference the same day announcing that one. Here's an excerpt: "One of the individuals was familiar with the Sears Tower, had worked in Chicago, and was familiar with the tower. But in terms of the plans, it was more aspirational than operational." One of the guys was acquitted, and the jury couldn't return a verdict on the other six. If they bother makiing plots like that public, why wouldn't they tell people about the other "HUNDREDS" of plots that they are foiling? I have run out of characters, but I'm confident I've proven pretty much every aspect of your argument wrong. If you would like to do this again with a full debate and maybe some factual evidence, I would love to.