L-M Classic: patsox834 vs. feverish.

<"I emphasise that he has had centuries to master the powers that Storm developed in her adult life."> Yeah, Dracula did have more time to develop the powers, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's anywhere as powerful. The natural power storm has is something that you probably can't acquire just by practice. EX: David Eckstein is an athlete who currently plays in Major League Baseball. He's known for his great work ethic, and for looking like an eight-year-old boy (though I'm only mentioning the latter because I think it's funny.) Despite having worked harder, and likely longer, than plenty of other players, he still isn't all that good relative to them, because he doesn't have the natural talent they do. Dracula, in this case, is Eckstein; Storm is more along the lines of Manny Ramirez. While Dracula can practice and still end up developing skill, Storm's natural abilities and talents put her on another level; Dracula is batting .260, while Storm is on the road to the Hall of Fame. <"The extent of Dracula's weather control is unspecified but given the extent of his other powers I would not be surprised if it vastly outstripped Storm's."> This is just an assumption that Dracula's weather control is strong because his other powers are strong...well, in response, I think it must be remembered that powers can be very much independent of one another, which means that the extent of Dracula's other powers are irrelevant. Now, maybe some of his powers overlap with his powers over weather, but plenty of them don't, and, well...seeing as Dracula's powers have been discussed, I don't really think I need to go through them all again to show this; it would be redundant and a waste of characters (which I need.) Also, without any specifications, I find Dracula's power over weather to be wishy-washy at best. I gave a source that went very in-depth over Storm's weather manipulation, so we know the extent of what she can do; however, with Dracula, the powers he possesses over the weather aren't clear, so I'm not sure how claiming he can hold off Storm's power can hold any merit. <"Please explain how this allows her to make the sun shine brighter."> From my canon: <"Storm can only manipulate weather patterns as they exist in nature. For example, she can end a drought in one area by creating torrential rains there, but that would necessitate robbing all available moisture from the surrounding areas. Storm is not able to create atmospheric conditions that do not exist naturally on the planet she is on. For example, Storm is unable to lower temperatures as far as absolute zero or raise them to solar intensities on Earth."> She can lower or raise temperatures, since temperatures are apart of what makes up "weather patterns," but she can't raise them insanely high, nor crazily low; however, she *can* still raise them, and raise them enough to weaken Dracula (though that wouldn't be too hard, seeing as he's rather susceptible to sunlight.) <"Also I would have thought it one of the easiest forms of weather control to manufacture a small dark cloud in the immediate vicinity to keep oneself in shadow."> I'd think the opposite -- to do such a thing requires an awful lot of control over the atmosphere (of course, manipulation of weather, in and of itself would, too -- but to create certain weather patterns over one specific area while making it so that the rest of the surrounding area is unaffected takes a *lot* of control over the atmosphere, and, well...I've been given no reason to think Dracula's powers over the weather are that strong. <"In addition the control Dracula exerts is an involuntary physical control, so Spawn's inner loyalty is irrelevant,"> I disagree. Again, Satan tried essentially the same thing on Spawn, and, well...it just didn't pan out for him. I don't see why it would for Dracula, then. <"I think my opponent is mixing up his mind power jargon,"> You're right...I did. But I'm not sure how that's relevant. Further, while I did screw up in my attempt to distinguish the means by which Mewtwo can control a mind, he still can, so yeah. <"Satan (I assume you reference the Judeo-Christian Bible) does not command the automatic loyalty or exercise control over the undead."> No. This Satan: http://en.wikipedia.org...(Image_Comics) From that Wikipedia page: <"Being the supreme ruler of Hell, every other Lord, including Mammon and Malebolgia, must answer to Satan's will. In his absence, Malebolgia served as the grand master of Hell, creating a massive army of Hellspawn to destroy Heaven. It would seem that Satan is highly feared by the other demons in Hell. For example: with the recent reappearance of Satan in Hell, Mammon seems to have fallen out of his place of power. Even his former servant Thamuz seemed ready to turn upon Mammon and destroy him at Satan's command. However, Mammon manages to save himself from Thamuz by offering Satan a way to increase the ranks of Hell's army - namely triggering the San Andreas Fault."> If Spawn can manage to tear away from him, then I don't think Dracula will give him much trouble. And, well, I just don't understand how necromancy is an effective means of controlling Spawn, when you consider that necromancy isn't something that can be instantaneously summoned; it's a form of magic that takes practice and time, and since we didn't have any prep time, this ability would be next to useless. Further, necromancy isn't controlling all that is undead; it's a form of magic in which the user summons demons and spirits. Summoning them doesn't necessarily mean they'll be loyal, and while Spawn is undead, not everything that's undead is a demon or spirit. http://en.wikipedia.org... <"Storm's winds would be neutralised by Dracula and would anyway not be a very effective means of locating a hidden enemy."> Well, I believe I've already covered how questionable it is that Dracula can "neutralize" Storm. And, well, even besides Dracula's questionable control over weather, the crucifix, garlic, and sunlight would be enough to make him rather weak, so he wouldn't be in any state to be attempting to control powerful mutants such as Storm. And I disagree that winds wouldn't be an effective means -- they can be extremely powerful. Especially if Storm's winds are combined with Mewtwo's -- Mewtwo, as specified by my canon, can actually create winds powerful enough to destroy planets. With Storm and Mewtwo controlling the wind, I don't think blowing team feverish out of hiding would be too difficult of a task. <"However Spawn is struggling with some inner conflict (on a molecular level) and Mewtwo is just not fast enough to react to guys like Starks and Monkey."> I think I've shown why Spawn wouldn't be struggling, so... And I think you underestimate Mewtwo -- he's not just some weird Pokemon; he's perhaps the strongest one. Teleporting away from enemies is something Mewtwo would be very accustomed to. And we must remember, Mewtwo is a vicious fighter and crazily competitive, so foes such as Iron Man and Sun Wukong would only unleash his competitive nature (his competitiveness can be verified on his Bulbapedia page.) <"The sun won't bother him under a cloud or in the sewer,"> Well, if Dracula is hidden away from the battle, then he won't be bothering anyone else, either. <"being repulsed is hardly limiting."> Depending on the extent of the repulsion. <"Bugs' girl outfit trick only works on especially foolish characters such as Daffy Duck, Yosemite Sam, Elmer Fudd etc. Clearly not on the same intellectual level as Starks or Monkey. 5 year old kids (I have one) are well aware that it's still Bugs under the dress."> Even if Daffy and company aren't on their level, the power attributed to Bugs is the same one my opponent claims Buddha possesses, so... Anyway, I'm out of characters, so I'll have to address the rest next round.