Paranormal energy (ghosts) are real.

I thank CON for his so far good argument, even though it presses the bounds of the word "fallacious." 1.)Yes, I agree with your second paragraph: "For quite a long time, indeed, the Doctrine of Humors was the prevailing wisdom in medicine, the Flat Earth in Geology, and Spontaneous Generation in biology. We know now, however that these beliefs are not true. In the same way, most of what has historically been attributed to the supernatural (lightning bolts came from Zeus, Apollo drove a chariot towing the sun across the sky, etc.) have since been given rational, naturalistic explanations." -Con But these things have been proven false. We all know that the earth is spherical, as we know that lightning comes from negatively charged electrons arcing to positively charged electrons located at the earth's surface. However, though many "paranormal" experiences have been disproved, there are just the same amount of ones that science has NOT been able to prove (or disprove, for that matter.). So, CON, tell me, what happened there? 2.) Against your second paragraph: "Additionally, a great many religions make absurd claims. Christianity can be summed up as the belief that a woman made from a rib taken from a man made from mud was tricked into eating an apple by a talking snake, which caused a fall from grace. In order to overcome this, we must telepathically express our belief in a dead Jewish carpenter. This dead Jewish carpenter, is in fact God, who must sacrifice himself to atone for our transgressions against a law of his own making!"- Con It's called faith and answers, man. Get some. This is not the place to argue this particular point, but, straight from Wikipedia: "A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs." http://en.wikipedia.org... The people who first wrapped their mind around this idea were extremely "wise." I want to see you come up with a verifiable religion, then get back to me on that. Trust me, from the state of Round 1, I honestly don't think you could do it. I know I couldn't. 3.) "The underlying idea is that in order for something to be experienced, it must exist. Dreams, however, we experience, yet they are not "real" in the sense that they exist objectively apart from the person experiencing them. Thus, this argument fails ontologically. It also has significant logical and empirical deficiencies. The fact that 66 million Americans believe something does not make it true; this is an argumentium ad populum fallacy. Indeed, it is not only possible, but likely that 66 million Americans (the minority of the population) are, in fact, deluded." -Con Dreams happen, as I hope you know, in the subconscious. In sleep. Now dreams have absolutely nothing to do with ghosts, unless you believe the whole 'everyone's a psychic in their sleep' idea. The part of ghosts that people detect with their five senses (sight, touch, audio, smell, taste, just in case you slept through kindergarten :).) is PHYSICAL- of or pertaining to that which is material: the physical universe; the physical sciences. http://dictionary.reference.com... You obviously didn't check my source. My source stated that 48 percent of Americans said that they believed in ghosts, comparative to 45 percent that do not. Rounding America's population to three-hundred million, that gives approximately 150,000,000 people that believe in ghosts. That means that the United States of America is being ran by "deluded" people. I'm starting to question your own logic. Sixty-six million people believe that they have had a paranormal experience. Yes, they could be deluded. But not all of them. "When one wishes to believe something, he is much more likely to twist reality to fit that belief. Mass delusions often take place as a result of what is called 'collective wish-fulfillment.'"- Con Yes, I agree with you on this point. But I shall share with you a personal experience, which may not be professional, and I'm not using it to prove any points. My mother, sister, and I were home alone once. My father was out of the house. We were all situated in the living room. Suddenly, we heard a large crash in our hallway. A very large shelf had fallen over five feet from where its original position was on the wall. We do not live near any fault areas (unless you count the New Madrid fault- and even still, it's 300 miles away and no quakes were reported) and no planes were flying over head. No other things could have caused this- so what did? Please, if you have any explanation, share. I don't believe this is wish-fulfillment. I did not want this shelf to fall, it held many valuables that I miss dearly. 4.)"Yet another pro causa non causa fallacy.[2] This is by far the most absurd argument presented. There are hundreds of superhero movies as well, yet we know that Batman and Superman do not exist. The "Twilight" series of books does not imply the existence of vampires. The Beatles wrote a song called "I am the Walrus." Clearly, this does not mean that singer John Lennon is, in fact, a walrus."- Con Great to see you've been reading up on Twilight. And of course, it is impossible for John Lennon to be walrus, because walruses do not possess complex enough vocal cords. Batman and Superman are fictional CHARACTERS, created by an author of comic books. The idea of the Occult predates comic books. Obviously. 1.) I question why you included this: ""The variance of the local magnetic field was significantly greater in 'haunted' than 'control' areas, and there was a significant relationship between the magnetic variance and the mean number of unusual experiences reported by groups of participants. These results seem consistent with previous research suggesting a relationship between local magnetic field activity and haunt reports.""[6] -Con This just helps my case. Of course electromagnetic fields would be higher in "Haunted" areas. Simply check this source to prove my case. (sorry, but I could not post the contents here. I'm running out of characters.) http://en.allexperts.com... 2.) You don't exactly make sense in this paragraph... electromagnetic fields make noises, slam doors, and move? According to you, ghosts=electromagnetic energy. Ok, that makes sense. but then you go on to say that it impossible because it would require work. First, you did not define "work," so I'm going to define it for you- exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something. http://dictionary.reference.com... Second, I'm fairly confident that electromagnetic fields can not slam doors, unless the door had metal in it and it could be attracted to some other metal. And that's not even electromagnetism. So please, expound on this statement. Next argument, tell me that you do not believe in ghosts beyond the shadow of doubt. I hope you remember that it is impossible to DISPROVE the fact that ghosts exist. Thanks! Pheonix