Latter-day Saints are not racist.

I genuinely hope it will be both informative and interesting for the reader. PRO begins his final retort by claiming that he wasn't calling in to question my quotes, but my sources. I sourced the websites because THAT is where I received the quotes. Since he doesn't have a problem with the BOM or Joseph Smith quotes, those sources stand. If he would have bothered to view the sites, he would clearly see that I used the website as a source for the quotes that he does not contend with. PRO states that the Book of Nephi and Joseph Smith are fallible, and therefore cannot be inerrant. My whole point was that if he is a fallible man who wrote a fallible book, then how are we supposed to trust ANY of it? What's the point of being a prophet if we cannot know, definitively, what parts of your message are from almighty God, and which are from your own greed or bias? I find it rather convenient that the book and the man is hailed as gospel truth, yet PRO clearly doesn't like the implications and in fact doesn't even address it. Instead of addressing it directly, he shifts the goalposts by simply muddling his terms, stating that biblical analogies refer to white and black as allegorically "good" and "bad. " That's partially true, the bible does do that -- except it just so happens be of no relevance. The BOM and Joseph Smith both CLEARLY state black SKIN, meaning it is more than allegorical, it is literal. .. and unequivocally racist. He uses the term "negro" over and over again, so that there is no question as to who Smith is referencing and why. Black people to Mormons have the "curse of cain," which, according to them, is the mark that God gave to them for their disobedience. Where, then, does allegory fit anywhere in here? It doesn't. PRO is simply desperate to muddle the terms to deflect from the obvious, which I have substantiated fully. Next PRO concedes one of my points when he states: "CON is right LDS Church like most other Churches in society need money to run. With no money what building would I go to church every Sunday in? What hymn books would I sing out of? What activities would I do? How would I grow spiritually? Cons argument referring to Churches need money is irrelevant to this debate. " PRO justifies the LDS' need and desire for money by wondering where he would go without a physical church. That never stopped Jesus, PRO's Lord and Saviour! "The Church," as per the bible, is a body of believers, not a place. The relevance of this is very evident in Round 2, which PRO questions. For his edification I will reiterate. His claim is that the racist doctrines are either misunderstood or is propaganda. As we all now know, because I've proved that beyond reasonable doubt, the new ethos within the church is to cover up these beliefs. Why? Because these antiquated beliefs are not compatible with today's climate. The LDS Church has to publicly allay fears of their racist beliefs. Why? How else are they supposed to get money without recruiting? The Church can only survive as a business off of the charity of others, so it has to market carefully. That's the relevance, and I am supremely confident that the readers will agree. I was merely explaining why they're whitewashing their tarnished reputation. PRO further alleges, "Like I stated above and CON never rebutted. Skin color is not a measure of righteousness or worthiness. " This is simply not true. I provided quotes with DETAILED beliefs about the blacks, and on the websites I sourced, it lists at least 30 more doctrinally related quotes to how black people are black on account of their curse, and that they cannot be promised to hold positions of priesthood within the Church. If that's not racist, then what is? The LDS Church clearly, since its inception, was racist. Therefore, in closing, I submit to the audience that the Mormon history on the subject is well-documented. In fact, consider why PRO created this debate. Surely he is well aware of it's sordid history and is now doing damage control to save face. This is no different than any other fringe belief, like Watchtower, like Scientology, who are always in the spotlight for its bizarre teachings that they want to make compatible with the rest of the world. Resolution: Confirmed