Jack Bauer is superior to Jason Bourne (David Webb)

Dropped arguments. I'm pretty sure setting another constructive, without arguments on an aff, doesn't count for fair exchange for arguments. Given that, arguments are still extended Given that the structure of this debate is now pretty hazy, I will go by my opponents structure of quoting. "-The drug in the Tranquilizer could cause a reaction with Mason if he is allergic." Jack's worked with mason for over five years now at this point, as is told in episode 19. I'm pretty sure he would know if Mason was suffering from any allergic reactions. "-Even if Mason is not allergic, he could be on a medication that day which could cause a reaction/death." Except for the show never showed that he is taking any sort of medication. Argument is mute. Jason bourne had his girlfriend killed, that's a pretty great tactician there! "-Tranquilizers are dose specific, there is no indication that Bauer calculated the dose required for Mason, this could have lead to the dose being in effective or Mason being killed" Come on, this is a federal agent were talking about. He has had training in practically everything imaginable. I'm pretty sure he knew the correct dose amount. Even if he didn't, obviously mason didn't die, and if he did, it would have been to help jack in his mission. "-Tranquilizer guns are hardly 100%, if he was in fact a superior combat/tactical agent he could have subdued him physically with little effort." A tranquilizer gun does use little effort :) I suppose your proposing that bourne doesn't use guns either? Jack gets easily manipulated by family. The great thing about jack Bauer is that he is able to manage both his family and his job, as struggling as it my be. He is always able to save his family, and complete his job. However, putting this argument into perspective, we really can see how irrelevant it really is. Jason Bourne, doesn't even have a family! And given the circumstances of Jack's quite crazy life, how can you really blame him for not having a perfect life? Every family has issues. But Jack shows his dying love for them regardless of the minor character flaws. Each season, he does everything humanly possible to ensure his family's safety. Where as Bourne doesn't have a family to look out for and still has a hard enough time managing everything. "he left his six open' Bauer did everything he could to make sure he got out alive, and succeeded in doing so. His job was not to protect his boss, his job was to get the proper information that he did in fact get. His boss's death was only a tactical awareness flaw on his boss's account. "It shows his level of combat ability. Now if you want to talk about morality/crime, Bourne, even though he could easily kill/incapacitate Marie chooses instead to pay her because while his training provides a level of reactionary ability, his conscious morality makes him protective of her even though she is a complete unknown." This Quote alone proves Bourne is inferior. He trusts somebody to help him that he hardly even knows! Given Bourne's predicament, he should be trusting absolutely no one. The fact that he endangers those he does trust, also, just proves how is 'morality' goes against his tactical awareness. "Quality counts" Not only does Bauer eliminate foes quickly and effectively, he does it in numerous amounts. This proves his overwhelming experience. "The fact that he can succeed with out the extensive support indicates superior ability, the fact that he can withstand as noted the crushing pressure of threats on his life with no memory of who he was and does not even show frustration/pity but just resolve indicates a level of mental strength which dwarfs Bauer, who when he was breaking down with his wife letting her know their daughter was kidnapped, not only was he not focused on calming his wife, he was actually engaging in a self-pity argument about how it was all his fault. Again, no where does that indicate superior behavior of any type from Bauer." Jason Bourne has a similar experience after the death of his girlfriend. Yet both continuously pursue their objectives nonetheless. This argument hopelessly falls. "Peer review" Peer review falls vastly in superiority, to critic review, seeing as it is REAL. And Bauer holds it, as it yet to be argued against by my opponent. "The obvious point is to look at those exchanges and note the level of skill, strength, creativity, focus and resolve and compare that to the meanderings of Bauer who would have been destroyed in any of the exchanges faster than BOxxy could resume control of /b/." And, pray, what is a feasible example to allude to this? If anyone aquanders superiority in this area, it would be Bourne, where he cannot detain two assassins quickly enough, where as bourne can subdue a man in way under a minute. "And you see in the Bourne movies where Bourne shows less physical and mental resolve?" When was Bourne tortured to reveal this mental strength? We have no evidence that given these circumstances he would be able to retain sufficient information. Popularity argument. Critic popularity is actually a very 'proving' thing. If Bauer is so popular, obviously he must succeed more in a way Bourne does not. This is the very essence of the word superior, is it not? To conclude, I would like to ask the viewer to vote AFF, as I have successfully proven that in all aspects of the game, Bauer over rules Bourne. Please note all dropped arguments, including Jason's lack of ability to quickly detain two assassins. Thankyou.