The DDO leader board does not accurately list the top debaters

My opponent began the second round by criticizing my problem with the definition of "top debater(s). " He said that that I did not provide an alternative definition. I gave a perfectly valid argument of why the definition is weak. If he claims that the atmosphere is colored, I cannot say, "No, it is not. " However, it is weak to say that it is colored. It would be more correctly to say blue. But it is not always blue either. That is why if he says it is colored, I cannot simply come with a "better" definition. It would not bring us anywhere. He went further on to provide the definition of "top. " I know very well what it means. However, "he himself" disagreed with the leader board's definition of "top debater. " That is why I am telling him that his definition is no more important than the one of the leader board. Moreover, I accepted the debate and yes, I agree with the definition. No fair-minded person doubts the definition of "top debater. " However, it can refer to "many things. " A top debater can be one that wins most debates, gets most votes on his debates, accepts most debates, and so forth. That is why I ask why my opponent thinks that he is right and the leader board is wrong. I will ultimately explain why the leader board is fine as it is. "1)They have a high probability of winning their matches 2)They compete against others who are also very good" Thanks, that does nothing but help my case. If the debaters here are, in fact, the ones that have the highest probabilities of winning debates and they compete with others who are also very good, then by the definition of my opponent, they are top debaters. Most debaters on the leader board fit well with point 1) and 2). "The ‘best' is easily defined. The ‘best' is someone who is better than all the others. The best debater on DDO is someone who is better than all other DDO debaters. If one can take a debater from DDO and not find an opponent from DDO that he or she is more likely to lose against, then this person is the best debater on DDO. " We are discussing "top debaters" which is a) plural, and b) not exclusively "best of the best. " Moreover, my opponent 'once more' refutes himself. The leader board shows debaters who usually beat most others, and are more likely to win against others. Then how can the leader board not accurately describe them, since my opponent makes this claim about the "best debater? " What is the fuss? -- Rebuttals of paragraphs -- 1. "CON admits that the leaderboard is dominated by members who have been here for two years. This is enough evidence to show that the leaderboard discriminates against newer members of debate. org. " No, it does not discriminate. First of all, I said that the first page was dominated by the oldest members. Second of all, it is perfectly justified that the leader board places the older members on top. Why? They have a lot of debates, activity in the forums, etc. They have "struggled" for two years to actually get these spots. How is it unfair that they are listed as top debaters? In fact, logically speaking, the new members do more debates than the older ones because that would only mean that they struggled just as much as they did. Why should we ever let a member spend one month getting the first spot in preference over an old member who has struggled much more to get the first spot? What kind of justice is that? What kind of accuracy is that? So, the older members have been here longer, have spent much more time getting the spots, therefore they deserve the good ranks. If someone thinks it is fair that he gets a better spot than them in a month, he can think again. He can strive as much as they, then. He can accept 10 debates per day and maybe get a good spot in a month. 2. "It is quite clear from my definition of ‘leaderboard' that I was referring to this leaderboard: . http://www.debate.org...; The leader board is exactly the same. Just because the categories are different does in no way refer to different leader boards. As can easily be seen, the leader board shows e. g. amount of debates and amount of debate wins. If someone has 500 debates, then he is under exactly category. If someone has 400 debates but 400 wins, then he is best in the category of amount of wins. Where is the problem? "Many with a 100% win ratio have not participated in many debates, thus their high win ratio could have just occurred by chance and is statistically insignificant. When I first started debating at DDO my win ratio was 100%, now it is at 44.44%. I only won my previous debates because most of them either forfeited or were bad debaters. Just because I had a good win ratio before, and now my win ratio has fallen does not mean by debating skills have plummeted. " And how does this negate the fact that my opponent said that there was win ratio? Whether it is good or bad is a different discussion. Also, my opponent still gave no good alternative. All he said is that the ones of high rank should not debate those of low rank. I will explain why, again, it is vague. "CON makes the continuum fallacy stating ‘where does one draw the line' between good debaters and bad debaters. Vagueness does not imply invalidity. Professional basketball players, Professional soccer players are clearer better than those who failed to make the team. " I am merely asking where do we draw the line between who must debate who? There are always people who are worse at debating than others, so why even spend energy and time thinking about "good" debaters not being able to debate "bad" debaters? The bad debaters can debate the even more bad ones. My opponent argued semantically.