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christians should just reject their religion's history of stoning

I hope to do again some day. However, on my closing statements I will say this. 1. Whether we should put more emphasis on Jesus or the Bible is a impossible question since they are both right. Jesus never says that the Old Testament is wrong, just that things are different. Stoning could have been the best thing in old times, but Jesus changed that. 2. You state that stoning was also done for more trivial things, so I will give you this. James 2:10 says that if you keep the whole law, but stumble in one point, you are guilty of the whole law. There is no such thing as a trivial sin. They can all ruin the nation. Look at David and Bathsheba. David's first sin was not going to war like he should have, and that escalated to adultery and murder.
christians should just reject their religion's history of stoning

the bible says Jesus was against stoning, and it also says to stone people. yes it does. all i'm saying is we should put more authority on what Jesus said. moral v other laws. i concede you have a plausible argument for why some rules are no longer in effect and some are. problem, goes back to Jesus saying stoning is wrong, essentially, and the general notion that stoning is barbaric to begin with anyway, which in itself should be presumed something to be rejected by christians, just because of the nature of it and circumstances that it was done in. as to your examples, i repeat what i said above in this post. id always point out that the OT had stoning for far more than just murder, but more trivial sins too, like dishonoring one's parents, etc.
christians should just reject their religion's history of stoning

Thank you for your post. 1. I would like to say that several times in the Bible it talks about stoning being right. You have even posted some in your first comment. I would also like to state the several times in the Old Testament does it speak of God killing sinners to prevent their sins from going on. How can you ask for "Biblical Proof" if it says it very clearly in the Bible. 2. As I have stated, Jesus coming brought about a new law. The old law was in place to show individuals and the nation how to STAY pure. With the death of Jesus, we ARE pure, and the law is meant to show you how to spread the word. That's why social laws, which was meant to keep us pure, is gone but the moral laws, the ones saying what's right and wrong, is still in existence. 3. So just to put this into easier terms ( as I have wrote it difficult) I have examples. A. Old Testament- someone commits the sin of murder. They are stoned because 1. Stoning is the best way to kill and 2. His sins can affect the whole nation as sin tends to be contagious. So to keep themselves pure, they stone him. B. New Testament- someone commits the sin of adultery. They are not stoned because 1. The new law allows them a way out of sin permantly and 2. We no longer have to worry about trying to be pure, as we already are pure. His sins will only affect sinners.
christians should just reject their religion's history of stoning

con is mostly just arguing from his own reasoning that stonging was God ordained. he argued that it was a dirty job, but God thought it was right. where's the biblical support? he just reasons himself into those positions, one could easily reason otherwise, and add to it 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone' and then we conclude it was wrong. for example, he says God cannot allow sin, and he says it was a reasonable executino method or not the worst. problem, is that we shouldnt think God would kill everyone for everything under the sun. that's just not loving. you can argue it is, but it's based on yoru own sordid understanding if so. con did show how it was no longer our place to stone given the new law but how it was once our place. it may not be but how was it before?
christians should just reject their religion's history of stoning

Thank you for putting up this debate, and I will go against it using the following evidence. In your opening statement, you seem to be saying the following three things. 1. Stoning is barbaric 2. Jesus and God is loving so... 3. Stoning (and the Bible) is wrong I will take each of these as they have been given. 1. Stoning is barbaric As both you and the Muslim you have posted has said, stoning is barbaric and savage act. For those who don't know, stoning is the act of throwing stones at a criminal until death. I say that this is not right. The Muslim and you have not taken into account the changing times. Even the Muslim wrote ( me paraphrasing) if stoning in the old times is okay, why is it not today. The point is that stoning may have been the most reasonable execution method in those days. The only other option was either to banish and let them die a slow miserable death, or bladed death. However, blades were not made for the chopping of heads back than, so you could live through three or more chops, feeling them all. At least stoning you could be knocked out and quickly killed. 2. Jesus and God is loving This statement is very true, but misleading. God is loving, but he is also a right one. God can not allow sin, so there much be punishment for such. He wasn't going to allow a sinful person to continue to live in his people, sine the Bible gives us several examples of one bad person making a huge bad family. Jesus, on the other hand, is a different story. 3. Stoning ( and the Bible) is wrong Jesus brought into this world a new law. Many people is confused by what this law implies, but the main thing is that moral laws are still in place, but social laws are not. That's why we don't have the diet or clothing laws any more, but murder and stealing is still a sin. This also brought about the idea that we as a people have no right to judge someone on their sins, that's God's job. So in closing: Stoning WAS right. In the old times, since sin would escalate to effect the whole group. Stoning was also the most humane way to kill someone back then. Stoning ISN'T right now since Jesus brought a new law that got rid of the old ways.
Let's go, Round 2 of Mharman's 2018 April Rap Battles.

RMTheSupreme, and now you're RMTheCreamed... Of rappers that I've gone and seen, you seem the easiest fiend Say you know battle rap? Damn, I laugh like you're a meme! I glow like a beam and fvcking flow like a stream You fvcking know I'm the king, you're just a lowly jester But you're not funny, all you do is blow and pester... Just like Dave Hester, causing wounds to fester, If we were apostels, you'd be James the Lesser I'd be James the GREATEER, hangin' with the savior Send you to the lake of fire for being a hater Quoting the Bible like you're friends with Jesus... I'm Pro-Life, well, except when you're the fetus! Think you're lines are fresh? They're fresh like fresh shjt They pop up-online, and I try and refresh it... Fvck! They're still there, and no chance of exit They suck more than I suck your mommy's left tit! (As to the small comment argument down below) In all sincerity, shut your @ss hole trap! You haven't even been in a real battle rap You're only online, thinking you're fvcking fine, Never real-life rapped, not even one time... And me? I have battles under my belt. My whole class has seen what I've dealt You think you're the real shjt? Well you're really just SHJT. Someone ask Debate.org to please get rid of it (it meaning you, tard)
Let's go, Round 2 of Mharman's 2018 April Rap Battles.

Kid you're SPITTING LOUD 'N' PROUD for a 20 year old who just picked UP TO MIC.You ain't got a SINGLE CROWD IN the SHROWD of bullsh** you foolishly just had the GUTS TO TYPE,You talk about nerf guns like you've owned one but you see me with one and you get mugged,I see three men with KNIVEs and it's their LIVES gone, heads hit floor *thud*,You think you're spittin' VICIOUS, think you're LINES PUT SMILES ON B***HES,But you're prey and you're deLICICOUS to this LION WRITIN' MALICIOUS,You find yourself INTIMIdatin' EVEN MIRRORS GIVE YA SHIVERS,I'd be terrified of this proLIFIC GENIUS IF IT wasn't for my soul BEIN' HIS. (Referring to myself here in third person)See I'm the one the crowd APPLAUDS worshipped LIKE I WERE the LORD,As for you, you're a SUBORD'nate who feels ENTITLED to rewrite LAWS,Get your friends to boo in the crowd 'Shut the F*ck up' with their ROARS,And you'll realise you're just reCORDED the TYPE OF show to put on PAUSE,You aint gettin' near this live BROADCAST open your EYES TO YOUR BIBLE, there's a line to exPLORE:“I am the way and the truth and the life." And you hatin' me's Matthew 9:4 (My verse is John 14:6, and matthew 9:4 is about having evil thought in one's head),Call yourself a CHRISTIAN? Your whole life's based on MISTAKES,You think I'm a dog and other FICTION is a fact? Well you'd best LISTEN TO THIS SNAKE.You're a King of Asgard in your dreams, back here on Earth you're WINNER on my plate,This IS REAL DeterMINISm you're destined to be defeated by the verses while versus this WINNER, Jim it's FATE.http://www.youtube.com...
Let's go, Round 2 of Mharman's 2018 April Rap Battles.

I'm rapping at a fast trot, people saying "thas hot" If they called me a mascot, they'd be callin' me Rap Bot They call me a king of Asgard, they call you an @ss god. YOU THINK YOU'RE ENERGETIC 'CAUSE YOU TYPE IN CAPS LOCK? No, Hoe. You took your last shot, but it didn't even hurt me Likely cause your rap is shooting like a NERF, G My rap compares to shooting like Stephan Curry I'm wearing the jersey as you mope in a dirt heap I'm juice, you're jam, I'm clear, you're blurry I'll shoot you man! You fear, you worry! I'm Superman, you're queer and girly, you'll lose again, you'll tear and scurry! People's ears are hurting after giving you a demo They say "Shut the fvck up." Didn't you get the memo? I sound like I'm revving, put the petal to the metal You sound like you're barking, get back in your kennel.
Let's go, Round 2 of Mharman's 2018 April Rap Battles.

Had ENOUGH OF THIS BROKEN YO-YO, put that off-milk BACK on THE SHELF,Actin' TOUGH FOR THE OVerBLOWN PHOTO, I'm Satan, I mean Santa to this WHACK, puNY ELF,Guy can STUFF FOURTY DILDOS in his mouth until he GAGS and NEEDS HELP,Yet what HE'D BE SPITTIN' in the aftermath won't save this excuse of a MAN from THIS HELL,Think it's EASY BEIN' me? My mouth on fire, spewin' lava, watch as my LIPS SWELL,Like that LICKED 'N' BITTEN LIPS UNder the CLIT ON your crush's tight GRIPPIN' KITTEN REALLY SMITTEN SINCE IT'S this alpha male's D**K ON which SHE FELL!!!!!!KID YOU think ROUND ONE I was trying HARD WITH THE PUNS? JIM, you're viatmin-c squeezy, this one-man-band PLAYS THE GUITARS THAT YOU STRUM, (viatmin-c squeeze is play on word of the saying HE WHO can POUND NONE vs this glass-SHARD-WIELDING TONGUE! GRIM reaper runs AWAY FROM THE RAYS o' this SUN, You worked your HARDEST, dear guitarist but I'm the piano, voice 'n' DRUMS!YOU'RE NOTHING to this KINGPIN, pullin' S-A-T SCORES? You can't quanitfy this that slim-not-JIM SHADY RAW! http://www.youtube.com...
Let's go, Round 2 of Mharman's 2018 April Rap Battles.

Claimer: Every threat in this debate is my real opinion. Stop talking about my balls, even though they intrigue you That's what I call f@ggotry, making every girl leave you If you want a preview, look at your mom for a review No one has got a cahones quite like she do How original, a diss on my IQ I've seen many rappers just like you On my SAT I got in the 89th percentile Do your homework before you try and defile! In all truthfulness, I didn't read all your rap I got bored and so deemed the rest crap You look crazy typing so much with the CAP Every line of mine gives you grenade shrap You can fap to my words, cause boy are they sexy And unlike your boring brick lines, mine are so flexy When I write, every one automatically gets me You have to explain yourself a lot, how petty (next round I will put in more effort, thanks for the match)
Let's go, Round 2 of Mharman's 2018 April Rap Battles.

Disclaimer: No threat or discriminatory view in this debate is my real opinion or threat, it's a rap battle and to win I must become a monster.I can JUST PICTURE M himself being here middle-finger on his hand up,Like WHERE'S THIS JIMMY can the real B***h BABY PLEASE STAND UP?Kid I'll grab you where the ladies want it lil boy MAN UP,Hit you hard but you feel no pain, their jammed up,Verses from you drop like your TESTICLES and grades,Cursed with low IQ from birth, failed EXPERIMENT running back in the maze, (lab rats are commonly tested for IQ by their ability to escape from a maze)I'm saying you're a rat, run far run wide,'Cause this alpha male lion gonna guard his pride, (group of lions are a 'pride' and cats chase rats to torture)Break your neck with my POWER I'll DEVOUR what's inside,As you COWER like the twin TOWERS I'm gon' break you from each side,'Til you on the FLOOR lil' WH*RE crying PLEASE NO MORE,Cry real tears SIMPLE JIM, until you BREATHE NO MORE,I'll break your SPIRIT past the LIMIT 'til you PLEAD NO MORE,Think you could walk in my shoes? It'd leave your FEET SO SORE,I've been through hell and now I run it; a pureblood G, hardCORE.You're a FOOL AND A HALF but don't just lack INTELLIGENCE,You lack TOO MANY PARTS to ever rap WITH ELEGANCE,Chicks view YOU AS THE FARTHEST TARGET from the ONE THEIR HEART'S WITH,Your their FATHER'S HARLOT, the being that they loathe; every vampire chick's GARLIC,Me, I'm more a wolf COMBINED with FROSTbite COLD; make 'em SHIVER as they QUIVER while they CUM WILD on the OPPOSITE OF my NORTHern POLE. ('pole' can be taken to mean many, many things here the punchline being it's down south' on me and QUIVERING AND SHIVERING are both due to werwolves scaring vampires and me being cold and the shuddering from the orgasm HOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLL)Yeah, this is RATional MADMAN, best play the game of RAP ever HAD AND there aint no other like me, so stop acting like you're BATMAN,I am not a JOKER, I am not a GOBLIN, you wanna go play POKER? Imma bluff and leave your knees wobblin',You'll have a heart attack from my RAW, PLAIN, THOR-BANE style, I'll leave your anus sore while your hobblin',The one time you let the RAGE unleash on me the PAGE in your life story will be your Aces getting craked YOU MAD? PROBLEM?TOO BAD YOU'RE IN a TOMB THAT'S GNAWING FROM THAT FOUR-INCH DONG you're imaginary GIRLFRIEND'S a POOR THING! (HE'S SINGLE ON HIS PROFILE WHEN I POST THIS)
Let's go, Round 2 of Mharman's 2018 April Rap Battles.

Rules:You must setup your rap battles (debates) so that they meet this criteria:1. Open voting; no restrictions.2. 4 rounds in the debate; no rapping in Round 1, that round is for acceptance only.3. Time to Argue: 72 Hours.4. Voting Period: 2 Weeks.5. The lower seed is the instigator, the higher seed is the contender.I will be rapping to this quality of flow:http://www.youtube.com...
The big bang theory is false

I accept. Note, the big bang theory is rather post hoc, and does not assert to know what happened before it. Also, the big bang theory is not just one thing; there are many differing big bang models. However, I suspect this debate, inappropriately enough, will invariably descend into a philosophical diatribe on causality. However, in the case that we actual discuss the physics, I believe it will be necessary to have an operative definition of theory. “A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, pre-defined, protocol of observations and experiments. ” In science, theories are not guesses, conjectures, or anything of the sort. They are the most rigorous expressions of scientific knowledge we have, continually demonstrated to be true, and supported by evidence.
School is necessary

Well he has pretty much conceded the debate and just restated the same thing Note : The ability not to be literate in comparison to todays standards does not mean society would not function C1) Society would not function without school For my adversary to uphold his BOP he would have to show that without school society would just decay and die off, which is an incorrect statement. At the earliest stages of society (Mesopotamia) and even some of the cultures following, in our most primitive nature we were functional and without school. We learned by experience, and what we did on a day to day basis. Even in todays culture if society went back to earliest stages and all schools were banned, we would not cease to function we would just function differently. We would adapt and survive as we always have, and learn by experience and adaption. School is a great way to learn, but claiming that without it society would stop to function is a bold and untrue statement. I have shown and stated why society could and would function without school. It his on him to show that without a doubt if school ceased, society would not be able to function. He has failed to do this thus far
School is necessary

I'm going to leave this on my adversary as he has the BOP let's review the resolution resolution - I will argue that without school, society would not function C1) False I mean this will cover the entire debate but he is assuming that without school there is no possible way society would function. Function is the ability to operate. All I have to do is show that society would operate without school. We can verify this with history. At the earliest forms of civilization school was not active, people had to teach themselves to operate and what to do to survive. So at its earliest state there was no school, and society did in fact operate or function without it. Which negates the resolution. Even if we took our current society down to a degree in which there is no school, it would still function and operate, it would just function and operate differently than it does not. But it would not cease to function as my adversary is claiming. any other point other than this is irrelevant, whether it helps people, does good , or is beneficial is a non sequitur of the resolution. He has to show that society would in fact lack the ability to function or stop operating without school.
School is necessary

Well, I probably have lost by default....Ok, first I would like to thank the legendary Mikal for accepting this debate. I look forward to your arguments.KnowledgeWhat school does is priceless. Teach you things that are essential for life. Without school, you would be a donkey. You can't get through the world if don't have an education. You learn Lit/La, essential for if you want to get a good job. You have Science, for if you want to be the next Walter White.... You have Social Studies, which is a very intresting class. You have Math, which lets be honest, that sh*t is unessecary. You also have a big list of encore classes. You can learn Drama or Art, so if you wanna be Pablo Picasso or some Broadway actor/actress. Home Ec, for future Racheal Rays. Music, for people who like music. The point is, classes like these need to be taught in order to be a member in society.Helping Homeless ChildrenI don't know what they did at your school, but at my school they help alot of homeless children. They will wash their clothes, give them free lunches, give them showers, and an education. If school isn't nesscecary, these homeless children will be denied stuff we take for granted.In conclusion, school may be abousolutley boring, but it is necessary.
Soccer will overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years.

My opponent has again chosen not to engage the topic of baseball vs. soccer. The fact that he is now playing semantics forces me to assume that he is unable to post any relevant arguments as to how baseball may be able to remain more popular than soccer. I hope that my opponent will present his arguments in this final round, but if he chooses not to, I apologize to anyone who came to this page looking for an interesting debate on this topic. We shall let the voters decide.My opponent's prescription that I am playing semantics is correct, but don't blame me, his abusive resolution has forced me to object to his case.His resolution states; Soccer will overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years. Via his resolution his argument cannot come forth as logical, since the burden was on him to prove that will overcome baseball, can only by reconciled on the premise that my opponent can predict the future, which he never reiterated on.I think it is only fair to subject a different resolution my opponent could have taken;"It is likely that soccer will overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years.""Soccer will probably overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years.""It is probable that soccer will overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years."And from his argument it is likely that this was the entailment, but I had to stick to the resolution he put forth and he never proved he can predict the future.Good day.
Soccer will overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years.

My opponent has again chosen not to engage the topic of baseball vs. soccer. The fact that he is now playing semantics forces me to assume that he is unable to post any relevant arguments as to how baseball may be able to remain more popular than soccer. I hope that my opponent will present his arguments in this final round, but if he chooses not to, I apologize to anyone who came to this page looking for an interesting debate on this topic. We shall let the voters decide.
Soccer will overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years.

However, it seems he has chosen to open with a red herring. I concede that I cannot predict the future, but that is not the focus of this debate. I will remind my opponent that we are debating whether or not soccer can overtake baseball in popularity in the United States in the next generation. We can use current societal trends and data to make educated projections on how likely this scenario is. This is not an impossible task, as most businesses do this every day. That is what we will be doing in this debate. I have posted some trends in younger demographics that I believe support my argument for soccer overtaking baseball. My opponent chose not to refute any of my reasonings, nor did he offer any argumentation for why soccer will not be able to overtake baseball. I would like to offer my opponent the chance to start his argument against soccer in the round. I look forward to seeing his reasoning. My opponent has not fulfilled his BOP nor has he addressed my objection, his resolution entails that it is definite, not that it is likely or probable, I await.
Soccer will overtake baseball in popularity in the USA in the next 25 years.

However, it seems he has chosen to open with a red herring. I concede that I cannot predict the future, but that is not the focus of this debate. I will remind my opponent that we are debating whether or not soccer can overtake baseball in popularity in the United States in the next generation. We can use current societal trends and data to make educated projections on how likely this scenario is. This is not an impossible task, as most businesses do this every day. That is what we will be doing in this debate. I have posted some trends in younger demographics that I believe support my argument for soccer overtaking baseball. My opponent chose not to refute any of my reasonings, nor did he offer any argumentation for why soccer will not be able to overtake baseball. I would like to offer my opponent the chance to start his argument against soccer in the round. I look forward to seeing his reasoning.