Border fence

I am using a new format: defense of my argument: My opponent states I cannot use facts in my rebuttals which is absurd. It makes my rebuttals fact oriented and not just assertions with no evidence. So my rebuttals are factual, not just un-supported statements. Also you mention the environmental argument. Stop with the red herring. I care about the contention now because as I stated it affects deer. So I didn't care until last round. Also even if I didn't care it doesn't matter because sometimes you have to argue other points. So once again, stop with useless sidetracks. Also I can price security that's a bad match up. Also security of a fence that I have proved worthless...really? How is it secure if I have proved it worthless. So it is a worthless 30 billion dollar project. I have proved it infective. So it's a 30 billion ineffective tool. Also you can live without security, it may be unpleasant but it's doable. Also the following refutes are important add-ons. Now refutation of my opponents arguments...again: 1C: provides security Stop c/p ing the same argument...please really add onto it. But this has been negated through my C3 argument. The border wall doesn't keep anything out, did you watch the video provided? It proved that you can penetrate the fence in 3 minutes. Also proving it a waste of money. 2C: Keeps illegal people out. Once again a border fence doesn't work, so this argument is a fallacy and it is false. (it's both he he) 3C: Keeps illegal drugs out This is a good argument, if the fence worked. You and I agree on the drug topic according to your profile but the fence doesn't work. I have proved this. I will prove it's failure to work when I expand my arguments. --my arguments-- C1: Hurts the environment. The federal government should take action to prevent environmental damage from floods related to the new barrier on the Arizona-Mexico border, an expert said. "We believe we're beginning to see evidence of the consequences of ignoring environmental laws in building the fence along the border," Jenny Neeley, director of conservation policy at the Tucson-based Sky Island Alliance, told Efe. [1] So an expert agrees. I have proven this point I think. I will show another example from another source though. In the film documentary El Muro, first time producer Gregory Rainoff exposes a myriad of often ignored environmental effects of the wall's construction. [2] So this video was done to show people the environmental effects of the border wall. As mentioned, a poignant example of the environmental destruction caused by the wall is the massive toll construction has taken on the rare and precious ecosystem of the Tijuana River estuary. A shocking 90% of this habitat, home to at least seven endangered species, has been rapidly destroyed by pollutants and filled in with sediments from the wall's construction. [2] So it made a few animals habitats and niches get damaged. :( C2: COST I have proven this and you really haven't refuted it and or proven a good reason why a fence is worth the money. So this argument could be refuted, but my opponent hasn't proven an effect. C3: Let's re-word this, DOESN"T WORK lol. Judge Veronica Escobar of El Paso, a Texas Democrat, told CNSNews.com that the federal government's border security approach is "ineffective" because it involves building fences that are "pushing border crossers" to "more dangerous, treacherous crossings" or inspiring them to build tunnels. [3] So they will just dig around it, take other paths etc. Also she didn't mention climbing it in 3 minutes, or ladders. Escobar said that border crossers will "always" find a way around, under, or above a border fence. [3] In fact, the Border Patrol's own statistics show that the border walls have not brought about a decrease in illegal entries. [4] On the contrary, the greatest reductions in apprehensions, which according to the Border Patrol would indicate a successful strategy for stopping undocumented immigration, were seen in sectors that did not have walls. [4] So according to this areas with no walls had less entries then ones with them according to border patrol. The areas that saw an increase in crossings were California's San Diego and El Centro sectors, both of which have had border walls for over a decade. At the same time that the unwalled border witnessed dramatic decreases in crossings, heavily fortified San Diego saw a 20.1% increase. [4] So places with walls saw increases. BORDER WALLS DON"T WORK, I have proven this. C4: hurts people Instead of halting people at the border, walls have redirected desperate migrants toward perilous desert routes, leading to the tragic deaths of thousands of men, women, and children. [5] This is given some people will go around and die. Killing many people. Once again, people fall too and also die or get injured. A border wall is bad. More human beings would die alone in remote deserts. [6] The journey taken by migrant men, women and children who set out across the U.S.-Mexico border has always been risky. But border walls have rerouted migrants away from the safety of urban areas and forced them to walk for greater distances over treacherous mountains and through searing deserts. All too easily they can become fatigued, dehydrated, and unable to go on. In too many cases, they die alone in remote areas. [6] :( sad This month an Arizona Daily Star analysis found that migrants today are almost three times more likely to die on their journey than people who crossed in 2006, the year before the walls began to go up. In fact, the rate of death—the number of deaths per 100,000 Border Patrol apprehensions—continues to increase even as fewer people are making the trek across the border. [6] This indicates that when the walls where erected people began to die. SO the fence increased the problem. C5: might make the mexicans mad My opponent has dropped this point, and the cost, and the effectiveness, and the one above, it has stopped. He only makes a red herring on my first point, and my cost one a little bit. DO I really need to prove this point though? I have proven it with my quotes from the mexican president. So I think I am done. --conclusion-- I have proven all of my points with facts and statistics. I cannot say as much for my opponent. Once again, he said he is to lazy to look this up proving that his arguments are false and not researched. I have proven my argument, disproved his by refutation and my it doesn't work argument. So in closing, I have proven my point with facts, my opponent hasn't, and I urge you to vote con. sources: http://latino.foxnews.com... [1] http://prospectjournal.ucsd.edu... [2] http://cnsnews.com... [3] http://www.no-border-wall.com... [4] http://www.no-border-wall.com... [5] http://notexasborderwall.blogspot.com... [6]