Earth Is Absolutely Immobile

I must say, this debate is getting very fascinating. I'm very excited on how this will turn out. Me too! You said that Galileo admitted that he was wrong. But we must keep in mind that 1641 was one year away from Galileo's death. And as it is known, the Catholic Church would only release him from house arrest if he admitted that he was wrong. In 1638, he petitions the Inquisition to be freed and was denied. He was miserable. We CANNOT trust that his testimony is correct. He could have lied in order to be free. That's actually a misrepresenation of history! Not trying to be rude, but the fact is that Galileo had already admitted he was wrong in 1633,(5) five years previously, and not only that, he agreed to endure any and all penalties he was to be given by the Church! And by the way, that letter I quoted from Galileo, well, it was to a colleague, not to the Inquisition. That means it was private correspondance. So Con's hypothesis that Galileo lied as a desperate attempt to have his sentence reduced simply doesn't fit the facts. If Galileo had written the letter in order to impress the Inquisition, he would have wrote it to the Inquisition, or simply told them straight up in person. Now you add Stephen Hawking into the mix: however, you added "[Geocentrism]" when Hawking didn't say that himself in The Grand Design. Take that word away, and your quote has just rebutted your Pro! I replaced the word Ptolemy with Geocentrism. It doesn't change the meaning of the quote from Stephen Hawking at all! You say that it is possible that the Earth is in the center of the Universe. But it is actually IMPOSSIBLE to determine where the center of the universe is! Your source is dated 1997 and was written before we had the evidence I mentioned last round that proves Earth is the center. The author of your source wasn't aware of the Axis of Evil or of the rotation of the universe :( "The universe is not expanding out from a centre into space; rather, the whole universe is expanding and it is doing so equally at all places, as far as we can tell. That's what most people thought in 1997, almost two decades ago! Science has progressed a lot since then. In 1929 Edwin Hubble announced that he had measured the speed of galaxies at different distances from us, and had discovered that the farther they were, the faster they were receding. This might suggest that we are at the centre of the expanding universe, but in fact if the universe is expanding uniformly according to Hubble's law, then it will appear to do so from any vantage point." That's simply not true! That's a misinterpretation of Hubble's Law. Hubble's Law only says that the red-shift of galaxies can show they are moving away from us. If a cop car drives away from you, the sound of it's siren changes. Similarly, if a galaxy moves away from us, the color of it's light changes. If it's moving toward us, it looks bluer, and if it's moving away, it looks redder. That's an oversimplification but you get the point I hope lol. Since Hubble noticed the galaxies around us look redder, he correctly reasoned that this is strong evidence we are in the center of the universe. Now, even though Hubble knew this was evidence for Earth being the center, he simply didn't feel like believing it. But that's his personal opinion if he doesn't want to believe Earth is in the center. The fact is, the evidence showed Earth was in the center, and Mr. Hubble admitted it: "[Red-shifted galaxies] imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth[...] This hypothesis cannot be disproved, but it is unwelcome and would only be accepted as a last resort[...] Therefore we disregard this possibility[...] the unwelcome position of a favored location must be avoided at all costs[...] such a favored position is intolerable" - The Observational Approach to Cosmology So Hubble's Law actually proves Earth is in the center of the universe! Exactly the opposite of what Con tried to argue. :) Con posted this picture of the universe: Now, I appreciate Con's abiding by the rules to use a graphic in every round, but unfortunately, I have to point out that this is not a picture of the universe. In reality, the universe looks like spheres inside spheres inside spheres of galaxies all surrounding Earth in the middle. This picture from Con is actually a computer-simulation of what scientists wish the universe looked like. But it's not a photo of the universe! It's highly misleading. But I'm still glad Con is abiding by the rules. This means that there is no center and there never has been! The Big Bang was simply the spontaneous explosion EVERYWHERE at the same time! Actually if the Big Bang happened, it started from where Earth is. This is proven by Hubble's Law which shows all galaxies exploding outward away from the central point of Earth. If you were to look out as far as you can in all directions. The maximum point that you can see to forms a sphere! This is known as the Observable Universe. That means that if you were to conduct your own experiment except on the Sun; then it would appear that the "Axis of Evil" forms a sphere around the Sun. Proving the "Axis of Evil" inconclusive. Yes Con LOL I know that the observable universe being centered on the observer doesn't prove anything. But that's not what I'm saying. I don't think you understand my argument about the Axis of Evil. The Axis of Evil doesn't look the same from just anywhere in the universe. Here is a 2D version to illustrate my point: http://www.nigelkerner.com...; /> Now you see that white line? That represents the Axis of Evil. If you pointed to the pixel right in the center, you know what would be there?That's right. Earth would. This isn't a relative thing. In other words, if you go out into space far away from the Axis, the Axis won't move with you to keep you in the middle. The chance that Earth would be in the middle of the Axis of Evil is less than 0.1%. And remember, I already proved the universe rotates around this axis in the last round. This means the universe rotates around Earth! The Foucalt Pendulum is a perfect pendulum that is situated on the Earth. This experiment PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT that Earth rotates. And thus, your argument is Invalid! Con's proof actually isn't proof at all, since if the universe is rotating around Earth, the same effect is observed! As Dr. Assis, professor of physics at the University of Campinas, explains: Foucault’s pendulum is explained by a real Coriolis force acting on moving masses over the earth’s surface[...] the angular rotation of the distant masses around the earth[...] keep the plane of oscillation of the pendulum rotating together with the fixed stars. - Relational Mechanics This PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT that the universe rotates around Earth. And thus, all your arguments are invalid! :D (5) http://law2.umkc.edu...