Rape or Nontraditional rape? (Bride Kidnapping Video)

Michelle Response to Danielle's Argument 1 In no moment did I state that the kidnap was a necessity. I simply stated that I felt it might have been used as a way to excite the proposal. By using the word might, I implied that it is not necessarily the case for everyone. Further, with your statement "and you"re right, there is no much we can do about it but if we remain with our minds close to the ideology that we can"t change the things that affects us as human beings then we will never experience a change within our society. " I do not understand how in the first few words you agree with me then tell me I am wrong? Also in my argument I did not mention anything than affects us as human beings, I stated that we do not necessarily have a right to judge their culture and decide that it is wrong. What do you mean by "within our society"? I am not talking about the United States. Please clarify. It is not necessarily the case that individuals know what is occurring around the world and many are not even aware of their own right let alone the rights of someone around the world. Referring to your question "How can she not agree after been humiliated in front of so many people and even the broom"s family?" Where in the video did the bride to be state that she was humiliated? With respect to the statement you made on "The white scarf was placed in her head by using force; the bride refused to wore it and somehow she ended up accepting it anyway. The scarf tradition is a process that "can take hours or even days (15:00)." While it is true that in the video the narrator mentioned that it might take hours or even days to get the woman to agree he also said "This is a very confusing scene, the girl has accepted, I do not know if you put up resistance because that is what you are supposed to do."(15:44). From just watching the video it seemed as only minutes passed. While she did at first, refuse to wear the white scarf, it is clear in the video that after a few moments she did accept and she did not resist anymore. I would have to disagree with your on the reality of their decisions. I do not believe that the women are prevented from seeing the reality of their decision. I simply believe that they choose to live this reality and accept it as something normal. I do not fully understand your explanation of why it is not a rape. How is consenting to the marriage without necessarily wanting to get married supposed to be considered Rape? Something else that I found to be rather confusing was how you brought what Smith had stated. I do not fully understand how those ties directly into the things you mentioned prior to that. Where you state that my comment is not valid because it was a short documentary is not enough to dismiss my comment and claim that it is invalid. In your last paragraph where you mention that negligence is on behalf of both parties? Who are the parties? Although I do agree that it is extremely sad for some of these women commit suicide as a result of the kidnap but suicide is not the only way to escape from the reality. They can get divorced and not worry about the comments her community will say. If she is truly unhappy she does not have to kill herself. What if she runs away? What if after giving it a shot she realizes that it is not worth committing suicide that if she is truly unhappy she will continue to look for a way to escape. Of course I do not think it is reasonable for woman to feel that suicide is their only escape but I also do not think the blame. Everyone has their own level of happiness and that is not necessarily something that can be measured. You mentioned that acceptance does not mean happiness but it also does not mean unhappiness. The bride simply accepts that this is the way things have been done since ancient times. It is part of her destiny and instead of fighting it she must embrace. With respect to the video there is not necessarily any hard evidence/proof of a Rape or non traditional rape occurring. There is no detailing that actually implies that the woman was must have sex with this man. I feel that there are simply statements that leave us hanging off a cliff. Statements that expect us to put the pieces together as if it was a puzzle and because we are "human" we should assume that this woman was actually a victim of Rape or non traditional rape. How can our assumption actually are proves that it was indeed what actually happened? To actually claim that it was Rape or non traditional rape we need more information not simply the basics as to how they even get to marriage. We need to see what happens after. We need to understand from the bride"s point of view and since we cannot do so we cannot claim this as Rape or non-traditional rape.