The Morality of the Bible is Outdated

I also think you wasted time by being sidetracked on attacking Christianity and more specifically, Catholicism. I began to read your latest rebuttal and I came to the conclusion that this was more of the same arguments that you tried to use before. Nothing to do with the debate at hand. Which leads me to think that you really do not have any way to prove your claim that your humanist morality is superior to that of the Bible. As for your so called proofs, as before, I address them below. "Most of the American founding fathers and early Presidents like Abraham Lincoln were better described as Deists, not Christians. " "The more I study science, the more I believe in God" ~Albert Einstien Well gee Albert, you seem to be contradicting yourself. ". .. it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God; to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed who's God is the Lord. " ~Abraham Lincoln, April 30, 1863 "I have always said and always will say that the studious perusal of the sacred volume will make better citizens, better fathers, better husbands. .. the bible makes the best people in the world. " ~Thomas Jefferson "The reason that Christianity is the best friend of government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart. " ~Thomas Jefferson "I hold the precepts of Jesus as delivered by himself, to be the most pure, benevolent and sublime which have ever been preached to man. " ~Thomas Jefferson "Of all systems of morality, ancient or modern, which have come under my observation, none appear so pure as that of Jesus" ~Thomas Jefferson "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible. " ~George Washington "To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest Glory to laud the more distinguished Character of Christian. " "Almighty God. .. I yield thee humble and hearty thanks that thou has preserved me from the danger of the night passed, and brought me to the light of day, a day which is consecrated to thine own service and for thine own honor. Let my heart, therefore, Gracious God, be so affected with the glory and majesty of it, that I may not do my own works, but wait on thee, and discharge those weighty duties thou requirest of me. Give me grace to hear thee calling on me in thy word that it may be wisdom, righteousness, reconciliation, and peace to the saving of the soul in the day of the Lord Jesus. Grant that I may hear it with reverence, receive it with meekness, mingle it with faith, and that it may accomplish in me, Gracious God, the good work for which thou hast sent it. Bless my family, kindred, friends and country, be our God and guide this day forever for His sake, who lay down in the Grave and arose again for us, Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen. " ~Prayers of the presidents, 2003, Dr. Larry Keefauver You might want to check the carfax. .. Pro, I think you might find it fascinating that there is a law in the city that I live in which prohibits any man from herding his cattle down Main St. . Now if I saw a man herding his cattle, let's just say, at the Earth Day parade, would this man be breaking the law? Would I not have the right to suggest that this law be enforced? Sounds a bit ridiculous doesn't it? Almost as ridiculous like if someone was to be prohibited from running for office based on his religion, or lack thereof. We would hear atheists screaming from the rooftops if this ever actually took place. Can you give me an instance where this law has actually been enforced? Do you really think that in today's society an atheist would be denied the right to run for office in the USA? Where are the lawsuits? Surely ACLU would have taken this case considering they will sue to have a manger scene removed from public property. (Whoa, dangerous! Wouldn't want to convert any atheists with the manger) Sarcasm noted, but nonetheless entirely intentional. Pro, on capitalism. I would agree that Capitalism is the best system we have, but it's not perfect. But you seem to be making my point for me. In your humanist manifesto 3, it's all about a redistribution of wealth. "We seek to minimize the inequities of circumstance and ability, and we support a just distribution of nature's resources and the fruits of human effort so that as many as possible can enjoy a good life. " . http://www.americanhumanist.org... This totally conflicts with the idea of Capitalism. Pro, on Jesus. I would respectfully say that you don't have a clue about the teachings of Jesus. Once again, It's not the money but the love of money. .. Greed. Thanks for the debate, I enjoyed it. Hope you did too.