atheism and theism are false by default

I will cross-examine my opponents argument too me and address them followed by a counter to the claim and the topic.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"belief=non sense" Depends on the belief. "a belief is a belief, a stone is a stone, a stone is not not a stone" The continuation of convoluted clauses. "absolutes=Existence" For one to speak of absolutes, you take fancy to the notion of agnosticism. "cause+effect=logic" No it doesn't. You obviously have never read even some of Stephen Hawking's work were he has addressed this issue. Not everything requires the cause and effect law. "there is no logic in fantasy, reality is logic" This has nothing to do with atheism, only theism. Reality isn't logic, reality acceptance is logical. "dude.. disbelief can never be non belief." They are literally the same meaning. And atheism is directly disbelief, it is non-belief. It is without a belief. That is what the "a" stands for. Without. Without belief of deity(s). "is it a non belief for you to believe my claim is false?" That is contradictory. If I do not accept the belief you can fly, it isn't a belief that I do not believe. It is rejecting and following what we can learn via experiment and observation, via philosophical and rational thought. Critical thinking. You are asking a loaded question by assuming I hold a belief, that by your logic, everything must be a belief, even if ti is anti-belief. Making even agnosticism a belief, which puts you into a big hole. "is it a non believe for you to believe that i am not wearing a hat when i claim otherwise?" No, because I am not believing you are not wearing it, I simply reject the claim. A claim is generally something said to be true with, most times, no evidence. Following evidence isn't a belief. Is evidence argues against you, I can reject your belief. That doesn't make it a belief. You are asking loaded questions. "imagination is non sense" This has literally nothing to do with my stance. You are all over the place. "religious claims have nothing to do with knowledge.." No one said they did. And religious claims are generally claims to explain the world with no evidence, knowledge isn't needed. Knowledge is required for you to deduce the claims or not. "there is no truth in the future, and no god in the past" This makes absolutely no sense at all. You are making, what seems to be an absolute claim. You yourself are not making claims, making you completely missing your own points as with my own. You can not prove there was no Gods in the past, God needs to be defined also. There is truth in the future, it's silly to deny otherwise. "i cant know imagination, and i cant believe in reality" So you're an atheist, not an agnostic. A rather brutish atheist rather than an agnostic atheist. So now you are arguing, at first, that said position was flawed when it is your own position? "i have no religion, i win all the debates i do.. it is impossible for you to win, even if you are physically god" So you are also areligious. No offense here, but looking at your record, out of 197 debates, you have a 156 losing debate record and a total of 6 wins. 34 ties and a percentile ranking of 3.70%. For you to make claims like you winning in nonsensical manners while arguing really against yourself, you seem to lack self-awareness to see you are fighting yourself. "know is true, is it true that i am wearing a hat right now? know is not false, matter is not imaginary" You seem to be confused between metaphysical concepts and matter of the physical world while mixing it up in a knee-jerk fashion of a loaded question. I do not know if you are or not. I have no way to even test you, for me to give an answer I need to experiment if you are or not. "know=physical experience" No, it does not. Knowing is simply perceptual experience. You have no way to know if your truth is absolute or correct. That is the beauty of delusional minds. "atheism has nothing to do with science, unless you disbelieve science.. science is not a unicorn but i can believe in it" What? This makes no sense at all. I hate too sound rude, but after doing some research, you being a claimed 26-year-old, I have to ask: Are you mentally disabled? Atheism is not claimed to have anything to do with science, but atheist only have really science and math, as I said already, to understand the world. We don't have a religion to give us baseless claims how things work, we can only use science to really explain things. I have already addressed this. Conclusion So to further conclude this. Atheism is not a false stance nor makes false premises. Atheism is the lack of belief or disbelief in God or Gods. The rejection of the claim, the belief, there are deities that made the world or have existed. Atheist generally rely on the use of mathematics, which is the only thing that can prove absolute, and science, which works to explain the world.Because of this, atheism is not false stance by default, it is rather the more logical one because it normally uses skepticism on claims of deities, which is the logical conclusion. It makes no absolute stance on Gods, but chooses a side and claims no absolute.