Flat Earth

Thanks again for the debate. These debates are growing a little redundant, but we can continue, when my opponent stated he had familiarized himself with some of the evidence for the FET, or read a few of my debates, but he hasn't given me conclusive proof that the earth is a ball. I will address all of his concerns, and I hope is a critical thinker, and is not as gullible as most people, we will see. I'm glad he started the research, and I hope it continues. This quote always comes to mind when I find a somewhat intelligent appearing person to have this conversation with about the resolution.It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. AristotleOn with the rebuttals, I'll start in round one, and continue from there, providing room.The orientation of the moon is different between the southern and northern hemispheres This is an easy one, and it was rebutted in a few debates already. The moon is not 250,000 miles away in the FET. Imagine a room, you on one wall, your buddy on the other, and an arrow on the ceiling, pointing at your buddy. He will see the arrow right side up, and you will, of course, see the arrow upside down, pointing at him. Does this mean that the room is anything but flat? Moving on.The coriolis effect(force)" The coriolis effect can also be tested by comparing which way toilets flush in the northern hemisphere compared to the southern hemisphere."False. My opponent has fell victim to an old wives tale, or an easily debunked lie. Even his scientists disagree with his assertion.(1) Drains rotate water based on the direction and force of the water as it enters the bowl and the shape of the bowl. Even natural drains(2) go in different directions, inches, and even many feet from each other. Hurricanes are a different story, but the reason this happens makes more sense on a flat plane than a spinning ball, let me give a short explanation, for more information, check Mr Thrive and Survive on you tube(3) for the best explanation I've seen so far. He goes into great detail, with illustrations, and is a former meteorologist. Why this makes no sense on a spinning ball:The northern and hemispheres are both moving in the same direction at the same rate, so why does the direction of air travel across an imaginary line change? Spin a basket ball in smoke, the same effects will NOT be observed. Furthermore, if the earth is spinning underneath clouds sometimes weighing a ton or more, and bullets in the air for mere seconds as modern scientism claims, there should be no reason that I cant get a hot air balloon and fly a little north or south while waiting for Paris or the like to come to me at 1,000 miles per hour. Flat earth explanation:The close, small sun and moon are some sort of electromagnetic phenomenon, pushing the water in the atmosphere away from it as it travels over the equator. It's really quite beautiful.(4) Ships disappearing over the horizonShips never go over any curvature. This phenomenon is due to a varying combination of the limits of the human eye, perspective, and atmospheric refraction. On clear days, with little refraction, one can pull a ship backwards over the curvature with just a pair of binos, a decent zoom camera, or a good telescope, though the telescope still has a limit. Take a look at this analysis.(5)Note: Swells will obviously come into play in some instances, like choppy, windy days, especially when the observer is at a lower altitude. How telescopes should work in a flat earth modelAs I've said, even telescopes have limits, it doesn't actually place the observer closer to the object, it only magnifies it, still using the human eye, and it's limitations. The air close to the earth is very thick, full of dust, fog, smog, heat, dew, clouds, chemtrails, etc. etc. Any weather app will give you your projected visibility for your area, perform the observations for yourself, if the required curvature for a 25,000 miles circ. ball has been found, I haven't seen it. Perspective causes things to get small, very fast. Watch a plane take off, within seconds after takeoff, an observer's hand when stretched out could cover and hide the entire Boeing 747. At cruising altitude, about 7 miles up, the entire plane has been reduced to a mere speck, only noticeable if they're spraying.The problem with time zones:Yes, if you haven't figured it out yet, the sun in the real world, the flat earth model, is NOT 93,000,000 miles away. Nor is it the center of anything. What my opponent means by this statement: The only way to have the time zones work as they do in reality in the above flat earth model, is if the sun is going around in a circle parallel to the earth’s tropics and equator(or the circles you see in the above picture), and not perpendicular to them. If that is the case, that means the earth is not the center of the solar system, which my opponent believes, as I think I read that in one of their previous debates. I might be wrong that they believe that, but if I am, they can let me know.How exactly does a small close sun going around over an infinite plane suggest anything other than a geocentric universe?Eratosthenes’ experiment and disproving the sun is close to earthThis claim is essentially based on a disagreement of the distance to the sun. I'm familiar with the whole errortosthenes experiment. My opponent offers a mathematical explanation that seem to be plausible, on paper. I prefer actual experimentation and experiments and common sense. Crepuscular Rays are observational, conclusive evidence that the sun is close. Simple experimentation can prove this.(7) The (growing)sun and sunspot directly under the sun in the Dog cam balloon launch supports a close sun.(8) Video of the curvature of the earth:The video that con presents is clearly a fish eye lens. If you honestly didn't find a refutation for this simple means to trick the gullible, Ill give a quick explanation, from photography lens specialists. Pause the video at 0:10 to see too much curvature."Because wide angle lenses take in such a wide field of view, they tend to distort the apparent physical relationships between objects. This result is most noticeable when you look at lines that should be relatively straight but are instead bent."Though I may have misunderstood the rules:4) The second round may be either rebuttals to your opponent's main arguments, or you can bring up more new arguments, or both.means that I can may not address round two rebuttals. So Ill end here, and await my opponent's defense.(1) http://www.snopes.com...(2) (3) https://youtu.be...(4) https://earth.nullschool.net...(5) https://youtu.be...(6) (7) https://youtu.be...(8) https://youtu.be...(9) https://photography.tutsplus.com...