Morality comes from evolution processes in society, not from the biblical God, Yahweh.

Since this is our last round, unfortunately. I do ask you to start showing evidence throughout the Bible quoting verses that defend your argument, rather than self interpretation of the Bible. You have given me no evidence, on why I should think that slaves in the Bible were different than slaves in early America. I have given you verse after verse that the slaves were treated poorly, but you just give me your own opinion on it and not actual real evidence in the Bible. That's states that "Bond servants" are different and slaves in America, and not slaves of Israelites that you have been suggesting, I understand Israelites slaves are treated better than other non-Israelites slaves. I do want to remind you that self interpretation of the Bible is not permitted in the New Testament, I've given you that first already. For my opponent, a reminder, The Bible does suggest that you do not take the biblical scriptures out of self interpretation of what they may mean (2 Peter 1:20). Hope I have made that clear. New Testament immoral teachings: Rules for women. (1 Timiothy 2:20) States, Women should not teach or have authority over a man and should be quiet. (Sorry, ladies. It's all because Eve came from Adam). I'm afraid this is no longer a good moral teachings in today society. My opponent may differ. But, I believe and many other man, women are equal to men. (1 Corinthians 14:34-35) Guys, aren't you tired of your wife babbling on about how you never help her around the house? Well, it looks like she needs a dose of the Lord! Take her butt to church, there it is disgraceful for them to talk and she must be submissive. (1 Peter 3:1-7) Some more women being submissive rhetoric. Looks like my girlfriend needs to start calling me her lord. There's more sexism in the Bible but I do not feel like quoting them. You may look them up yourself. However, women are submissive in the Bible continuing on in the New Testament. Slavery: Looks like slaves can still be beaten for "bad" work, because it is the slave's fault .. I think I see where J.K. Rowling got the idea for elves. Love those masters even the ones that are harsh. (1 Peter 2:18-21) "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps." (Ephesians 6:5-6) "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart." (Titus 2:9)"Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them." Crazy: (Matthew 5:27-30) States that men should cut off and gouge body parts, rather than get some eye candy. I would say a bit psychotic(Sorry, gentlemen), you can't question the lord. Quoting my opponents words from the first round " I will be arguing that God is a basis to what we determine as to good and bad. Without God we are left with a bunch of different subjective morals that isn't good as the other. Western society has deep roots in the Bible and all of our laws are based on teachings of the Bible/Torah. Therefore the basis of those teachings directly stems from God." I'm afraid my opponent's was incorrect. Western societies laws may have had motivation from the Bible such as the sexism, that begin our nation. But, to say all of our laws are based on the Bible. To have somebody be submissive to somebody else based on their sex is not only immoral but illegal. Not only having a slave, but beating them, is something that is also illegal and immoral. To my opponent, I gave you at the founders may have been sexist and racist(slaves) Christians/Deist. But, this is a debate about morality. Also you said you wanted to include the Torah. I remind, you that that is the Old Testament given by Moses. Afraid, there are not many laws that include murder, rape, and slavery in Western society today. No matter what nationality or religion you claim to be, you cannot own a slave in the United States nor murder anyone in the United States, everyone is equal. I have not read all the way through the Bible, it is quite a long book, 66 books plus the ones that were taken out. And I thought the Star Wars collection had a lot of books. I have read to Deuteronomy. However, I have demonstrate a better knowledge of the Bible, then you. I don't see why you cannot explain what Jesus is in this debate, it should be an easy and quick answer. However I am interested in learning in Jesus, anyone I've talk to gives me a different answer. I'm sure yours will be no different. From my understanding, everybody has a different interpretation of Jesus, if he is God or the son of God. I see it all as fiction, so I really don't mind which way you see it. Like my opponent said. Without God, Yahweh, we are left with "subjective" morals. With God our morals are terrible, even with just following the New Testament and ignoring the Old Testament, we are still extremely sexist and owning slaves this is not only illegal but not moral. I would like my opponent to defend his statement saying that all laws are based off the Bible/Torah when, even just following the New Testament ,women are not as good as man and not every man is equal to the next. These are not a good basis for morality. Here is a really good article on morals http://bigthink.com... it talks about relative morals. I really suggest the read. This makes more sense that sexism and slavery. ((((HERE IS MY EVIDENCE)))) I think I've demonstrated well enough, that the Bible including Old Testament and New Testament are not held up to today's standards for morality. Making women submissive to men and owning slaves is very frowned upon in Western society. This only leaves us with relative morals that there is not only good and bad but a gray depending on the situation depends on what is good and bad I will not go into much detail about this because I shared a link in the above. To my opponent: I do ask that you show evidence, because I have shown you my evidence. Again, not from self interpretation, but using quotes from the Bible. New Testament: What is moral about sexism and having women be submissive? What is moral about having slaves? What is sane about gouging out eyeballs so you don't look at a woman? Old Testament: I will not ask questions on this because I know you cannot defend them, on what the morality is and lessons are from the Old Testament teachings. I would like to thank my opponent, since this is our last round. For a good debate. It has caused me to think, learn, and research a lot.