The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis for the UFO phenomenon should be taken seriously.

Just to clarify, I do not doubt that it is impossible for life to exist on another planet orbiting a star somewhere in the extremely vast universe. I was just wondering what you rationale was for assuming that another intelligent culture would have to be older than us. I thank you for taking the time to give me the rationale for this, and while I agree it is plausible it is not a definitive answer. For example your rationale does not bring into the calculation that mass extinctions could happen more frequently in an earlier universe as the universe is expanding and so in the earlier universe there would be more chances of collisions. (1) This means the chances for an older civilization are about as likely as a civilization that is the same age as ours, but this is my perception of what would happen. However, lets leave this for another debate and rather discuss the sightings as this is the core element of the debate. My opponent has put multiple links to multiple cases, and I am sure it will be impossible to reply to them all. As such, I will go through the arguments from the first to last as space permits. However, I should also add that the first case actually represents thirty individual sightings during the Korean war. As such I am not ignoring the other links, but I am not sure which evidence my opponent wants my to address. Case 1 presents the 30 individual cases of pilots that encountered UFOs during the Korean war. (2) The first sighting (sub case 1) refers to a September 1950 sighting. Firstly, I think it is important to note that this was a single person reporting this and was not verified by anyone else involved in the flight sortie. There were 9 people in this flight sortie and only 1 observed anything, and as such it should not be held credible as it was a war situation and this is known to cause stress as well as post traumatic stress. (3) The fact that the radar was jammed is not surprising, as radar jamming techniques existed long before the Korean war and again this story is only coming from 1 of the 9 people present and only 1 of the 3 planes. (4) Additionally, the disorder the pilot felt, the images he saw etc. can all be explained by a deprivation of oxygen to the brain. (5) So in closing, I think this event by 1 person in a group of 9 can easily be explained through psychiatric trauma, oxygen loss or radar jamming. Case 1 sub case 2 March 10, 1951. I think this case is nothing special to write about, as a flash of light could be anything during a war. This is even recognized as such and is labelled unidentified, as it could have been either: flak, a flare, or a meteor. Case 1 sub case 3 July 1, 1951. Again this case in nothing special. Flashes of light in the middle of a war, not surprising. Additionally, this was all in Seoul airspace at the same time and so its not strange that 4 different pilots flying at the same time observed it. Case 1 sub case 4 is just labeled Fall 1951, this should be reason enough to doubt it with no specific location and date or time. Its a war and these people are pilots, this is very suspicious. The sentences starts off "More than 14 U. S. Navy ground and airborne radar sets tracked a UFO which circled over the U. S. fleet", however this is not true what the radar on the ground said to the one airplane non-pilot was this "I reported the target to the ship and was informed that the target was also held on the ship's radars, 14 in number and for us to get a visual sighting if possible. " So the target was 14 in number, not radars on the ground. So it seems that a non-pilot "Lt. Cmdr. M. C. Davies, U. S. N (Lt. Cmdr. is navy not air force)" was confused and disorientated, or maybe he is just been misinterpreted. Case 1 sub case 5 Jan 29, 1952 2300 and 2324 Korean Time Wonson & Sunchon. Immediately, I have to doubt the validity as the author states it was one B25 that observed this "UFO" for 5 minutes. If it was one sighting then the distance the B25 traveled was between Sunchon and Wonsan (approx 100 km) in 5 minutes which is 490 mph, this is much faster than the reported 144 mph. (6,7) So we can conclude that it was separate sightings which follows from the reading the text accurately. Maybe it should also be added, that the "UFO" fired upon the second aircraft which is expected from enemy during a war. Also these sightings are not so strange as this could happen in a war due to stress as I pointed out before. (3) This is even noted in the text as follows "Capt. Fournet for Air Force public relations use he states, "The sightings mentioned, although of a different nature, as is usual, are not abnormal occurrences in the combat theatre. During World War II over both Germany and Japan, combat crews reported sightings of a multitude of these types of objects which could not be identified or explained. " I wish to take a break from these rebuttals at this point to make the following statement before I continue. Honestly, after reading these first five cases I am doubting the validity of the author, as he does not seem very proficient in the English language. He misinterprets things how he wants i. e. 14 radars and 1 aircraft for 5minutes, when it meant 14 enemy and 2 different aircraft. I do not deem this as a credible source at all, as it has been shown the author either has bias, is a liar, or is not proficient in the English language. Continuing, in case 1 sub case 6 February 23, 1952. No further information is given besides it was unidentified, so I think this is a void example as it could have been a balloon. Case 1 sub case 7 February 24, 1952. The aircraft in question got illuminated by a spotlight from another plane. This is not surprising as spotlights were used on planes during the Korean war. (8,9) I don't find this evidence remarkable at all, as the plane could have been illuminated from the ground and then by another aircraft, or even a friend playing a mind game on another squadron mate. Case 1 sub case 8 March 29, 1952. No further information is given besides it was unidentified, so I think this is a void as in sub case 6. Case 1 sub case 9 May 10, 1952. This is classified as a balloon sighting, so not sure why it is even in the evidence for UFOs. Case 1 sub case 10 May 15, 1952. This sighting is dubious as it lasted for 3-5 seconds, and the object was moving at an estimate of between 1,200 to 1,500 mph which is double the speed of the aircraft. It should also be noted that the visibility was only between 10-12 miles and the aircraft was estimated to be 20 miles away and one third the altitude. So how did these pilots see something 20 miles away clearly in visibility that was between 10 and 12 mph? Case 1 sub case 11 May 15, 1952. This case sounds strange as I am not sure why the whole sighting is considered to be at "approximately the same altitude as the airplane during the 15 - 25 second-long sighting". This aircraft was supposedly moving at 4 times the speed of the airplane in question and then descended downwards (which if it was moving at that speed would have crashed into the ground within 4 seconds) however the pilot says he saw it descend to 1000 to 200 feet below him and disappear into a haze. Seems this could probably be related to altitude sickness or some kind of trauma. Case 1 sub case 12 May 26, 1952. This sighting was at night, and the pilots even talk about a glare from a searchlight of a plane which was blinding so they could not determine what type. Surely then this bright light observed that followed the plane could just be attributed to a searchlight on a plane. (8,9) What's interesting is the author who then talks about presuppositions "The conclusion of the Deputy for Intelligence stated above illustrates once again the lengths that people will go to to ignore obvious facts that do not agree with their presuppositions. " Yet, the author is the one with presuppositions as he has already decided that any report from the air force is lies and not facts. I think in all these cases, it is important to remember that the Korean war was a very bloody conflict which was the first cold war conflict. What happened at that point was a new era of warfare (especially air warfare see citation 9) and multiple sightings could be attributed to new aircraft and stress of this new warfare. (10) In closing again I want to reiterate, I do not think this information is credible as the author has like I said earlier either a bias, is a liar or is not proficient in English. Additionally, it should be noted that most of the sightings which seem like they could be "UFOs" all occur at night or changing light when it is well known that human sight is worse at night or during changes between dawn and dusk. (11) I hand the debate back to my opponent, and again I apologize that I could not get to all your evidence due to the character limit. (1) . http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov...(2) . http://www.nicap.org...(3) . http://www.stanford.edu... (4) . http://en.wikipedia.org...(5) . http://www.healthline.com... (6) . http://geology.com...(7) . http://www.disastercenter.com... (8) . http://www.13thbombsquadron.org... (9) . http://en.wikipedia.org... (10) . http://www.historynet.com... (11) . http://www.aoa.org...