December Tournament Round 2: Jews are going to heaven.

This is the conclusion round. Con should not read this until he has finished his. John 8:24 "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. " As I pointed out, Jesus was talking to the Pharisees when he said this, not to the Jews. Con says that the message is universal, but since he has not tried to prove that with a Bible passage, I do not need to refute it. Con then says that Jesus was talking to the Jews, not the Pharisees. The whole chapter can be found here: . http://www.catholic.org... Verse 3 says he was talking to the Pharisees, so I succeeded in refuting this argument. Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. " As I said before, this verse says that faith can save you, but it does not say that you need faith to be saved. Con responds to this by contradicting me without even attempting to prove his claim, so I succeeded in refuting this argument. John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. " Con says this verse is clear. He says that it doesn't say, "I am a way, some men come to the father without me. " That is a strawman. I never said people come to the father without him. I said people come to the father by his teachings. Con's interpretation was that people come to the father through belief in him. The verse says "me" not "belief in me" or "following my teachings", so neither of us proved anything. Since this was Con's argument and he failed to prove it, it was unsuccessful. Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. " Con claims that the verse says you are saved through faith, not of works. However, the grammatical error there is enough to prove that false. According to Con, you are saved THROUGH faith, not OF works. It wouldn't make sense to say, "You are saved of works. " Therefore, I was right all along and "It is the gift of God: not of works", meaning that this argument of Con's was not successful. It never said works do not save you. It says God saves you because of his mercy. John 3:36 "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him. " Con uses a biased source to "prove" that Catholics changed the original Bible. I will clear this up with a source that does not favor one Christian denomination: . http://www.christianbiblereference.org... clearly explains how the Protestants changed the Bible, so my version of the verse is correct. Con proceeds to say that even if the Catholic version is correct, it still proves his point. He claims that not believing in Jesus is disobeying the first part of the sentence; however, the sentence is a statement and not a command, so it can not be obeyed or disobeyed. Con's argument here failed. Galatians 2:16 "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. " For purposes you will understand later, I am going to respond to this argument after I have concluded the others. Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. "Con claims that this verse is talking about Jesus, but since it does not mention Jesus or any alternate names for him, it can be assumed that Con is either lying or just not being specific. Conclusion of Con's arguments I have proven all of Con's arguments to be unsuccessful except for Galatians 2:16, which I will explain later. My own arguments are next: Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. " I used this verse to prove that having he who "doeth the will" of Jesus "shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. " Con says that this only applies to certain people, but since he has not proven that, my argument still stands. James 2:14 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? " This verse clearly states that faith without works is worthless. Con responds by saying his arguments prove my argument to be false, but since I have already proven his arguments to be unsuccessful (except for Galatians 2:16, which I will refute later), his rebuttal is invalid. Romans 2:6-7 "[God] will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works. " Con claims that only Christians will be judged according to their works, despite the verse saying "everyone". Even if my other arguments failed, this one would be enough proof because it says plainly that everyone, including Jews, will be judged according to their works, and those with good works will acheive eternal life. Since some Jews have good works, some Jews will go to heaven. That proves the resolution to be true. Jews are going to heaven; they aren't all going to heaven, but some are, so Con's claims about the resolution are false, and I win. Now I will finally refute Galatians 2:16. "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. " Romans 2:6-7 has already proven that works are all that is needed to save someone. "Justified" as used in this passage must mean something other than the Christain theological definition. Conclusion of my arguments and Con's Galatians 2:16 argument Romans 2:6-7 has proven the resolution and refuted Con's argument.