there is a creator- even science proves this

Thank you for the opportunity to debate such an interesting and important topic. I won't waste any more time on formality, so I'll go ahead and begin. 1) This argument creates a very blatant false dichotomy. You present the only two options as being "God did it" or "It was an accident." This is, of course, very flawed thinking. On what authority can you claim to know these are the only two options? Why is a third, forth, fifth, or any other number of options not possible? You then draw conclusions from this false premise, which logically make the conclusions flawed as well. In addition, you use the word "accident" incorrectly. If something is an accident, that implies that it is done for reasons other than its purpose; in other words, that it happened in a way that it was not supposed to. This assumes that there was a way it was "supposed" to happen and that it did not play out that way. This is also flawed thinking and is a common misuse of the word. 2) To use logic does not presuppose its 'existence.' It presupposes that there are certain combinations of words that human beings generally agree make sense together and a certain combination that don't. You also create a non sequitur by saying "Logical truths cannot be proven without reference to God." Logical truths cannot be "proven" at all because they are abstract concepts. Again, logic holds truth because we agree that certain things are logical and certain things are not. It does not "exist" anymore than luck, coincidence, jealousy, or anything else human beings give meaning to. And even IF it presupposed God, I'd like you to explain why it have to presuppose the God you believe in (or are arguing for) and not another god or gods. Science proves there is a God: 1) This argument is also flawed. Stephen Hawking and many other physicists are often misquoted or misinterpreted as saying things like this. It is true to say that the universe does depend on certain "finely tuned" aspects, and that without them, it may either not exist or be very different. The second part is important. You argue that had anything been different, the universe would not have come into existence. This is possible, but it is also possible that it simply would have been a totally different universe. Atoms may have been the size of planets; atoms might not have existed at all. Something completely different may have. Who is to say which outcome is "right" and which one isn't? It also stems from yet another common misconception: the "nothing from nothing" argument. What you have to understand is that in space, "nothing" is not really nothing. "Nothing" refers to having zero net energy. This situation arises from energy (having positive net energy) and gravity (having negative net energy) cancelling each other out, and creating "nothing." In this "nothing," quantum particles sporadically pop in and out and existence. If this happens in a certain way, quantum fluctuation can occur; if quantum fluctuation occurs, a singularity can form. A singularity is what the Big Bang originated as, so you can see how this creates a cycle. Keep in mind the laws of Thermodynamics, which state that energy cannot be created or destroyed. 2) Evolution does not mean "get better." Evolution means organisms change over time. Natural Selection means that the organisms most suited to survive will indeed survive, and those less suited won't. The reason predators and prey continue to exist is because as the prey develops better ways to fight or hide from the predator, so the predator develops better ways to catch or kill the prey. They are not necessarily getting "better," they are just becoming more adept. Finally, your last statement is also a logical fallacy. It is a non sequitur to say that since science cannot answer a question, that must mean God did it. There is no reason to think this. I would also refer to Laurence Krauss's "A Universe From Nothing" lecture on YouTube. It is fascinating, informative, and will probably answer a lot of your questions. Thank you for the opportunity to have this discussion.