Abortion should be banned.

It is only fair to do the same. Even without all of this information, A fetus still responds to stimuli at 8 weeks of development even though pain is not known to register at this stage. Responding is the different to actually feeling it. At 8 weeks I clearly stated the fetus would not even have the neurons connected to the brain in order to actually feel tha pain. If the baby does feel pain at 8 weeks then how would it know without the neurons connected to the brain? Pro left that unaswered. Why is it that 'pain' quantifies human life? It wasn't pain instead it was the defintion I gave to be a human being. The case was given in order to find out what is a moral time to abort a fetus if the woman cared about the fetus feelings pain and acutally knowing it is. Knowing it is important because if a person is braindead they are actually dead. Brain does so much for a human and if they do not have it they lose out on many fuctions. Memory, Articulate speech, Think etc. If person does not even have a functioning brain the person should and I think be considered dead. If the fetus lacks the capability of knowing about pain then it is comparable to a braindead person who is dead. First of all you are leaving out a great deal of factors of what exactly influences the crime rate. Political factors, Socio-economic factors, Welfare factors, Environmental factors. Yes I do know that but that was not necessary in providing a point. The reason why I didn't talk about other factors is because what started these adults into a bad path was their parents failing the children and sending them to a care home. A select are emancipated and then 50. 8% engage in some sort of criminal activity. I am not denying a rich emancipated adult would not resort to crime but I highly doubt that is the norm instead would be the exception. Not having a stable household with parents that can provide and meet your benefits does put a lot of the burden on a child. A care home cannot given the attention parents do due to the amount of children they have to take of which leaves the children to their own devices. What happens is that they do not know right from wrong until it occurs to them that the act of stealing is wrong. If someone does not have their undivided attetion on children then the children would most likely do something wrong due to their lack of ability to know right from wrong. If banning abortion does lead to increase emancipated adults then crime will increase. Pro has not stated what was wrong instead there are many issues while also not stating what was wrong about my assumptions. You'd rather allow human beings to die at the perceived benefit for societyThat is a way in looking at it. Another way is that I much rather bring humans into a world where they are cared for instead the opposite. A hypothetical if I may. I much rather have a population of 100 people who are cared for by society rather then having a population of 1, 000 people who are not cared for by society. The numbers are quite small but if someone is not willing to care about the child they should abort it instead of allowing it to the enter the world where most likely they will commit crime. Then it is the welfare system that needs overhaul. A welfare system does not help women love their children and if you decide to allow a mistake to stop women's career paths then all that is going to do is emotionally scar the women and blame the child for the governments ban on abortion. If there was no ban on abortion the women would be able to find career opportunities be fulfilled and then when she is ready have a child. My example gives the women more choice and would result in more affection given by the mother to the child due to it being her choice to bring about a child into the world not a mistake which cannot be undone. If it was directly as a result of the legalization, Then crime should have started falling amongst the young population first. I didn’t realise there was a report debunking the claims of that source. Thank you for showing me so that now I require others sources to provide my point or maybe turn to the pro-life position but that remains to be seen. I’ll concede this point. To state that freedom is 'always' better is a ridiculous notion in this regard. Just after I made that claim I stated this “The blanket statement does only work at a point since I do not agree with someone taking someone else’s life but in general the less restriction we oppose the freer the people are. Freer people will have more options to live a fulfilling life thus not revolt against the state. ” I don’t really think Pro did that on purpose but if his premise to his arguments are false like I just represented here then I can dismiss his argument that were gained from the false premises. The evidence supplied by rape kits has been reported; both by the journal and by a individual's account, To be often mishandled by police. Rape kits sometimes go into evidence lockers for years before it is produced in a court. I will also drop this claim because I couldn’t really find enough evidence to state it to be effective nor the opposite but you did and the professional does help me understand why rape kits don’t actually work. There is no way to effectively stop all abortions because anything that the government deems as against the law will always have a black market. I highly doubt it would be effective whatsoever. The only thing it would do is increase the illegal activity of abortion or if people have the money go abroad to abort the baby. The United States have also gone through long enough with abortion that removing it would be too much of a big enough cultural change and would not work. Burden of Proof is not based upon 'hypothetical scenarios', It is based upon overall effectivenessPro does not realise it wasn’t some far-fetched idea which was appealing to the minority instead it was the opposite. More households have knives than don’t. Most households have stairs that don’t which means if a person really wanted to abort a baby they could do it. Instead of allowing publicly funded abortion you instead resort to people using illegal abortion which cannot have the same effectiveness. A country that only allows abortions based upon life threatening scenarios. As per my source below when the law was tightened in 1993, The abortion rate fell 95% from reported cases. This alone is enough to support the enforcability of an anti-abortion law. Case closed. First problem is that it is difficult to find out the data for illegal abortion because it is illegal. Similar to saying x amount of illegal’s voted in elections. Another problem I would like to add is that women that can’t get abortion in Poland just decide to go to another country. Instead of stopping abortion it just increases illegal abortion and abortion rates in other countries. Source: Poland's abortion ban proposal near collapse after mass protests – The Guardian To summarise: I have made my position clear on when it is right to abort a baby. I have conceded rape kits and abortion leading to less crime because of my lack of knowledge. I have still yet to see how Pro would be able stop abortion and have shown above why simply banning abortion doesn’t actually stop abortion.