Fordebating.com will not see a substantial gain in membership based on the site owners advertising..

Let’s recap the debate.My 5 points1) Substantial gain from Mikal’s to Tuf’s debate2) People openly support me or defend my behavior.3) Advertising based on my strengths4) Strategies other than smack talking and fighting5) Marketing through controversy works1) Substantial gain from Mikal’s to Tuf’s debateI started this debate showing that I have made substantial gains in membership in the month from the time I last did a debate about ForDebating.com. Let me repeat that, in a month. (time matters just as much as numbers) Did I show that I now have a successful website now? Of course not, that wasn’t the resolution of the debate regardless of Pro’s comments to the contrary. “he needs something more demonstrable than vague stats on YouTube channels, Facebook visitors, and mail subscribers.” These count as membership. Obviously, I can’t prove that I’ve gotten substantial gain on a site that isn’t up yet! Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither is a website. New business by nature starts out small and through gains gets bigger. To a small business my gains are substantial gains, and even more so if you look at the history before the confrontation. (which was zero gains for a month talk about small numbers) Pro compares those gains to someone who owns 20 websites, and of course they aren’t what that company would consider substantial gains.2) People openly support me or defend my behavior.Pro wants to use the self-proclaimed troll queen of DDO (Forever23) debate “Coveny is A A$$hole” as proof that “the majority of a community tend to dis-agree with you or think you are an "@sshole" (3)”. The troll queen of DDO … are you serious? Then later goes on to say it doesn’t matter that people are supporting me. When I show that as a contradiction with his “popular website” he changes over to the people who are supporting me aren’t really supporting me. It’s like playing whack a mole. In the ONE thread that I posted after this debate 7th say “keep up the good work!” The support continues to grow…3) Advertising based on my strengthsPro confuses respect with support. You don’t need to be liked to be respected, and this is the opposite of what Alex Jones does. The integrity I’ve shown can be seen for anyone who looks. Pro just doesn’t understand that because he changes his stance and position with the winds so he doesn’t understand the concept of integrity. 4) Strategies other than smack talking and fightingPro lies to refute this point “He says this was after the Mikal drama, he never tries to show his growth after his one early thread talking about the upcoming site. Since the debate started my opponent has tried starting several threads to promote the website, and even specifically mentions this debate as inspiration(1).” It’s easily verifiable than the 3 alternate methods of advertising I linked in this debate all happened before this debate started. “Coveny past behavior prior to the start of this debate is really all that is relevant. “ I was doing more than talking smack before this debate began, and will be doing more than talking smack after this debate is over. My behavior is “relevant because I was only arguing to the extent of his previous behavior.” (my approach and strategy have NOT changed) Pro goes further with his lies with this statement: “Con cannot prove those views were garnered from THIS website.” I only can because one of those “other” advertising things was listing my book on DDO, that proves the 17 people who download it all came from “THIS website”. He makes it easy for me to make him look bad…5) Marketing through controversy worksI have created ONE thread which Pro suggested in this debate and it got 13 replies. (over half of which were mine) The last reply was two days ago; the thread should be considered dead and over at this point. Mikal’s debate (which Pro linked to support that my controversy didn’t have “reach”) got 82 comments. My point stands unrefuted, case closed…On my pointsI have achieved substantial membership gain. I have also shown the general sentiment on DDO about me is changing in my favor as I gain additional support by advertising based on my strengths. I have shown how I try out different advertising techniques to see what is most effective, and will continuing to adapt my marketing strategy to whatever is most effective in the future as I see what produces results.On Tuf’s 3 pointsI have achieved Pro’s reach, and brand awareness arguments for two of Pro’s three arguments against me. (Pro has not refuted this) I have brought up that I’m not selling anything, and I’m not looking for profits to cover his third point showing it to be a swing and a miss. This debate should be an easy win by that count alone. Look at the post Pro linked and indicated would be a “better selling point” to what I’m currently doing and you will see it has 5 replies (if you discount the people in this debate) proving Pro has no clue what he’s talking about when it comes to effective ways to advertise.ConclusionDuring this debate Pro has went in any direction he can to try to discount and disprove my position. This debate is supposed to be between me and him, but he “tattles” on me… to say I’m a tattler. (The hypocrisy burns) Pro has directed me to advertise elsewhere but this debate isn’t about elsewhere, it’s about my advertising on DDO. At every turn Pro goes off on tangents that fall outside the scope of this debate. I ended up playing whack a mole with his ever-contradictory argument, everchanging arguments, and goal post moves yet he wants to claim I dropped points? I have addressed reach, sales and profits, and Brand awareness in-depth in this debate, those were his listed points, they have not been dropped.How Pro sees my success can best be shown in his example about his website. The debate is about membership, right? Membership, as in they show up to the website. Not that they love him and stay there forever! Regardless of what semantics games Pro wants to play they showed up and were members of the site. Pro had a popular site, Pro had membership, Pro achieved the resolution of this debate in the same way that I have achieved resolution of this debate. Even if you don’t agree with that, you must agree that it is possible for me to achieve it at some future date.Either way I win.