Who is the Greatest Batman Villian

It isn't fair, really, to cherry-pick (Bane Characters)Since I left out the Bane from Batman & Robin and my opponent pointed this out I decided to add some of Bane's famous quotes from the movie like the memorable "BOMB...BOMB...BOMB," when Bane masterfully placed bombs where they were supposed to be, or like when he famously said "errrrrrrrrrrr," whenever he was in the camera shot. Schumacher sure brought a lot of depth to the character. Bane was not the mastermind in The Dark Knight Rises; Talia al Ghul wasTalia al Ghul was a mastermind in the plot to destroy Gotham it was just as much as Bane's plan as her's. Since you brought up Talia al Ghul I want to just say while Talia was in disguise as an employ of Wayne Industries, Bane did all the hard work, he beat Batman, blew up the city, hurt the stock market, able to get the necessary resources to make a nuclear bomb, and even protected Talia al Ghul in the Pit, without Bane she is dead as well as the master plan.However, the source of (Bane's) strength has always been his undoingWhile in the comics Bane does need a steady dose of Venom to keep his super strength he doesn't necessarily need it. He was the strongest prisoner in Peña Dura with ruthless fighting techniques and in some comics he goes without it and still competes with Batman on the physical and mental the Venom he uses is like adding gasoline to an already burning inferno. While I could argue the same thing when it comes the Joker. Where Joker's strength comes from his complete madness and this madness when not in check can cause his downfall. When he is so blinded by pure insanity he can become easy to defeat when he makes a miss step. In the Batman universe every character has something that be their down fall. Bane did not break Batman's back in his first appearance by any means. Vengeance of Bane predates Knightfall.While it is true that Vengeance of Bane was comic book readers first encounter with Bane because it was his origin story, Knightfall was Batman's first encounter with Bane and was the time when he broke the Bat. Joker had his own face cut off and then stapled back on (New DCU).While this is pretty messed up, Bane has some horrific injuries that occurred to his face and head. In prison he had his face mutilated by a swarm of angry prisoners and had surgery in that dirty prison and eventually had to get a mask. In the comics he has a tube that is drilled directly into his brain pass the skull which probably doesn't feel peachy. He created his very own "Bride of Jokerstein" (Harley).Bane has Talia al Ghul who you even mentioned being a mastermind unlike Harley who is more like a victim of wife beater syndrome.He has never been ruined as thoroughly as Bane was in the Schumacher film.This might be Bane's most amazing achievement he was able to rise from the ashes from Batman and Robin. Joker has never been tested like Bane and Bane was able to survive thanks to Nolan and Tom Hardy for their poytral of Bane which shows how great the character really is. Like what Thomas Wayne said. " And why do we fall, Bruce(Bane)? So we can learn to pick ourselves up."He's scarier than Bane.Can't say either is scarier its like choosing between having a Great White swimming toward you or have a Grizzly running after you just depends.Health Ledger moment of silence......didn't die because of him being the Joker it was just a tragic event and taught everyone to be careful with prescription medications.When you take Joker and Bane, and compare the two and take out the bias it looks like Bane it just better. Joker fell into a chemical pot and became the Joker. Bane was born in a prison and had to learn to survive and killed his first person at age 8. Bane has a more interesting past.Vote for Bane because no villain can both Break Batman and Gotham in such a small amount of time and has such an impact on the fans of Batman.Sourceshttp://en.wikipedia.org...http://articles.cnn.com...http://www.youtube.com...