God is natural, we just live in a supernatural world.

The problem I have with the odd definitions are not that they are all bad but rather that you are using them to equivocate. - reï¿½liï¿½gion - something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience - polï¿½iï¿½tics - political principles or opinions: Clearly politics is a religion! No. The biggest offender in your litany of crappy definitions was your definition for God. The actual M-W definition is: "the supreme or ultimate reality: as a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind" The a and b in the definition are completely relevant to the definition. Further, you are again equivocating on the point of dividing up "ultimate" and "reality" to say that it is "most within time and space" and "actually real" to conclude that God clearly exists. Let me draw a parallel: Ghosts are supernatural. Super means extremely. Natural means real. Ghosts are extremely real! It isn't the use of the words I object to. Rather it's the fact that you're equivocating all over the place and using the dictionary as an authority of what exactly words mean rather than a guide to how they are used. Nobody uses God to mean any natural entity anymore (I suppose pantheists and there might still be a deist kicking around). You seem to believe that there are "original meanings of the words" which come from the dictionaries and expand out from there. I suppose next you'll say that history books made wars happen and encyclopedias have declared that Madrid is the capital of Spain even though everybody in Spain wanted it in Barcelona. There's no such thing as "original meaning of the words" in that given context and certainly taking them out of a dictionary and out of context doesn't give them more "truth or weight". There is no god to live in accordance with. It's a phantasm which you apparently believe in because the dictionary says it's so. I've heard of Biblical literalist and spoken with countless numbers of them. But you're the first dictionary-literalist I have encountered. Atheists do not believe in God. That is all. There's no accordance with God because there's no God to have an accord with. The world is rather chaotic anyhow but like most things out of the chaos comes a bit of order. You'd be astounded how many of the laws of physics, chemistry, and biology are based on exactly that principle (all of them). >>this is the definition of reality, not nature. That is what is meant by the word "nature" in the context. Natural as opposed to supernatural. The real as opposed to the unreal. >>You say, what you see is what you get in reality. If that where the case, I would probably kill myself. My condolences. >>It originally meant to be born of the universe. Yes, everything in the universe is natural. >>We overuse the following gifts bestowed upon us by nature for our survival: Adaptations for survival are not overused. >>Have you ever see an animal kill themselves because they were depressed? Yes. --- Yes, we have amazing faculties which are not present in the other animals but we use them to the same ends because the ends to not change. We eat, we breed, we fight, and we die. Nothing about the internet or powergrid or art has changed the underlying four F's of human motivation: feeding, fighting, fleeing, and reproduction. --- >>Problem: please, please just put the definition of ultimate and the word reality together: And if I remove the blue marble could the marble be red and just very sad looking? Words meaning change when placed into conjunction with other words. You are asking me to equivocate. ---- God is not natural. God is non-existent. Everything that exists very much does exist and everything that doesn't exist doesn't exist. You can't dictionary a God into existence and you certainly can't conclude out of the blue (color, depressed, thin air?) that God exists in the first place. Furthermore, nothing about this very natural very real world is supernatural.