Naruto can beat Sasuke

~~~~~~~~~ Responses ~~~~~~~~~ /// When my opponent stated about the stats of Sasuke Uchiha and Naruto Uzumaki, it only shows Naruto when he is in his normal form. /// Yes, which is why I referred to the section as a comparison of base Naruto against base Sasuke. It was to show the readers that without enhancement, Sasuke outranks Naruto as a ninja. A point that is central to my arguments. ~ /// Naruto's ninjutsu would also be stronger than Sasuke's. /// That's not how ninjutsu really works. The score is to show that Sasuke knows more ninjutsu than Naruto does and is better able to utilize it in battle. ~ /// Naruto has always been bad at genjustu but since he has his senjutsu and his nine-tails form, he could just stop the flow of Sasuke's genjutsu. /// It's been a while since I've read the series. Is there any reason that genjutsu wouldn't work on Naruto? This is why your arguments need sources. ~ /// Naruto can summon a bunch of clones to make a wall or dome that 'Almighty Push' could just get through it, he would then go into his senjutsu mode and kill Sasuke as stated in my arguments in Round 2. /// I don't know what this means. Almighty Push is one of Nagato's attacks. It would be great if my opponent could expand or rephrase this. ~~~~~~~~ Rebuttals ~~~~~~~~ /// (1)Naruto has never been been shown to enter Sage mode while in the middle of a fight. .. but it doesn't matter since he can also do it in battle. (2)The Sharingan allows Sasuke to track Naruto's chakra and movement but when Naruto uses Shadow clone jutsu, all of his clones have the same amount of chakra as the original which is spread within the others. Naruto can then summon a whole bunch of clones and Sasuke wouldn't have known who the real Naruto is. /// (1) You've almost literally just said, "he's never done it, but it doesn't matter because he can do it. " I hope you understand how ridiculous of a point this is. (2) That the Sharingan allows Sasuke to track movement is precisely why Naruto won't be able to enter Sage mode in the middle of their battle. It has nothing to due with not being able to distinguish the real Naruto from the fakes by detecting chakra. As mentioned earlier, to gather the nature chakra Naruto must remain perfectly still. All Sasuke would have to do is target the one that is standing still. ~ /// (3)My opponent stated that going into his nine-tails form would be his downfall since he can't use his tailed-beast ball. (4)This wouldn't be his downfall cause Naruto can also go into his senjutsu mode in nine-tails form which is seen when Naruto was versing the Nine-tails. ( he would have to go into his senjutsu form then go into his nine-tails). .. (5)And when Naruto injured himself, it was because it was his first time using it and he used too much power into that kick. /// (3) Incorrect, I said that since Naruto has not yet learned to control himself when in the Nine-Tails Chakra mode he would lose in a fight to Sasuke. (4) Umm, we did not see naruto go into Nine-Tails Chakra mode when he was fighting the Nine-Tailed Fox. What we did see was the beginnings of the Nine-Tailed Fox begin to take over his body and begin to enter his Jinchuriki forms [13][14] which are very different than his Nine-Tailed Chakra form [15]. Then there's the ponit that when [14] was happening Naruto was not even in Sage Mode, which you can tell by looking at his eyes [16]. (5) That's exactly my point. When that happened it was the first time Naruto had used the ability, and he has not trained with the form at all since then except to manipulate the chakra arms. There is no reason to think that he would be able to control himself in the form yet. ~ /// Naruto's speed in his nine-tails form increases his speed /// To repeat, Naruto can not control that form yet. He may be faster and stronger, but those powers mean that he loses most of his fighting ability. ~ /// Naruto knows Frog Kata /// Frog Kata is basically what Sage Mode is, and until you show that Naruto can actually get into Sage Mode this point holds little weight. Even if he could, it just increase his physical abilities and adds an aura around his body that extends the range of his close-range attacks by a few inches [17]. As you can see near the end of the video, the aura does not add much range. It certainly doesn't mean that "even if he misses Sasuke, it would punch him. " ~~~~~~~~ Arguments ~~~~~~~~ As there is no way that Naruto can beat Sasuke when in Nine-Tails Chakra mode due to his lack of control over the form, and that if fighting at base levels Sasuke is clearly superior to Naruto and would not likely lose. These are too attempt to show that even if Naruto could get into Sage Mode, he would still lose to Sasuke. Amaterasu + Partial Susanoo [18]: Using Amaterasu, Sasuke is able to make whatever he looks at burst into black flames that are inextinguishable until they've burned through what they've attached themselves to. Since this attack is vision-based it is very hard to dodge. In the second video at the four minute mark, Raikage is only able to dodge it using a teleportation jutsu comparable to the one used by the fourth hokage mentioned by my opponent. Naruto is shown to be able to move at this speed when in Nine-Tails Chakra mode, but not when in Sage Mode. If Naruto is hit with this attack he is dead. Period. Sasuke is also able to use a partial form of the ninjutsu known as Susanoo as a full body shield that surrounds his person. This shield is able to offer near perfect protection to his body and even allowed him to survive a Liger Bomb [18][19] performed by the Fourth Raikage. As mentioned by another character, no one before Sasuke has ever survived having that attack performed on them. Not only did the shield keep him from being killed, he also appears to not have taken much damage from the attack. The real power of these attacks is that Sasuke is able to combine them by infusing the bones of Susanoo with the flames of Amaterasu. Meaning that anyone who attempts to touch him has to do so at the sacrifice of their limbs. As shown in the second video (4:49), the Fourth Raikage only gains the upper hand when he punches Sasuke through the Amaterasu/Susanoo shield, which in return for the attack caused him to lose the arm (second video; 6:21). Since Sasuke now knows that enemies will sacrifice their bodies to attack him when using this ability, it would only be doubly difficult to use this tactic against him. This is close to a perfect defense. Complete Susanoo: If the partial Susanoo + Amaterasu is close to a perfect defense, the complete Susanoo is a perfect defense. It completely surrounds the user in many layers of defense and can attack using a magical crossbow. However, this probably wouldn't help him actually fight against Naruto. The increased speed that comes from Frog Kata would likely make it so that Naruto could dodge the bolts. The real advantage to using this technique is that Sasuke is shown to maintain it for at least ten minutes [19]. Naruto is only able to maintain Sage Mode for five minutes [20]. This essentially means that if Naruto is able to enter Sage Mode, all Sasuke has to do is wait him out. ~~~~~ Therefore, in a battle Sasuke would be able to defeat Naruto. ~~~ Sources: [13] . http://bit.ly... [14] . http://s1-c.animea-server.net... [15] . http://bit.ly... [16] . http://bit.ly... [17] First Video . http://www.youtube.com... [18] Second Video . http://www.youtube.com... [19] . http://manga.animea.net... (Entire chapter) [20] . http://bit.ly...