PRO should have won this debate.

Salutations to my opponent and many thanks for starting this debate. ====== OBSERVATIONS | ====== Upon taking a brief gander at the instigator's arguments, I cannot help but notice that his entire case is dependent on his own debating paradigm. Unfortunately for him, there is already a strict guideline on how one ought to vote on debate.org Thus, this for debate's convenience, I shall post this guideline: Conduct: Which debater, on balance, was more composed, and used fewer or no personal attacks against their opponent? Improper conduct includes personal insults, profanities, and bad sportsmanlike behavior. Spelling and Grammar: Which debater, on balance, took the time to insure their writing was easy to read with proper spelling, grammar, and punctuations. Convincing Arguments: Which debater, on balance, did a better job of clearly explaining their arguments and of exposing the weakness of their opponent's arguments. Reliable Sources: Which debater, on balance, proved their argument with sufficient quantity and appropriate interpretation of evidence. Finally, since neither side never really addressed what truly determines which system is better, we are to focus on who won the most arguments in the various topics during this debate (based on the term "on BALANCE). PRO acknowledges that Performance/Graphics are superior, so that's an automatic point for CON. If you agree that CON was superior in two other areas, CON wins. ======== RE PRICE: | ======== PRO argues that the contender of his debate had introduced a new argument in her final round, hence ought to have been voted down on conduct. There are immediately three problems with what he is contesting: 1) As you can clearly see on the DDO conduct description, bad conduct is clearly in reference to any kind of message meant to degrade one's opponent. We have no conclusive reason to believe that introducing new arguments ought to be considered bad conduct here. 2) The contender had addition offered an argument on lower price being a poor factor when determining what is to be considered the "better system." She had argued this throughout all four rounds, hence it wouldn't matter if a judge were to dismiss her citing the newly lowered price of the xbox360. 3) PRO himself had introduced a new argument on his final round. "CON states: "Pro chooses to introduce an entire new argument during this fourth and final round by providing lists of the Greatest Video Games of All Time. Thus, even if my opponent somehow manages to successfully argue that his paradigm is suggested by debate.org's rendering of conduct, he had "bad conduct" himself. Ergo, this would have to be reflected as a tie. ======= RE: Controller | ======= 1) CON acknowledged that the Wiimote was more versatile than the 360 remote (hence eliminating all variations thereof). Her counter to this was that the Xbox remote was more functional and she cited evidence which suggested that the Xbox 360 controller was the best controller amongst the console systems at the moment. That answers the WiiMote 2) As for the Balance Board, one has already been developed and shall be released specifically in time for he Tony hawk Game: http://www.pocket-lint.com... Since the debate was started a day after this article was released, it is indeed fair game. In an case, both of the above make CON's claim correct (which is what PRO's objection is). ===== RE: The Market | ==== 1)PRO claims that CON completely dropped his point that the Wii and its games dominated in sales, however, as we can see in her 3rd round, it's the other way around. Observe what CON said in response to sales: "The Wii sells more units. The Wii sells more games. I'd say that this is at least a reflection of how much people like the game. If more people buy Honda's, that's a pretty good indicator that Honda is doing something better than the Bentley's, whether it be pricing or advertising." Well, I already explained how just because something might be more popular in terms of sales, doesn't necessarily make it the better product. My opponent cannot expect me to take him seriously when he says that a Honda is a better car than a Bentley, can he? Hondas are more affordable and thus sell more units, similar to why the Wii sells more units despite the superiority of the Bentley." This yet again comes back to the argument on what ought to be constituted as better. Sells don't necessarily say anything. For instance, compare the quality of the food between McDonalds and Olive Garden. McDonald's may have better sells, but the better food with higher quality can clearly be found at Olive Garden. Potayto-potahto. In response to this, PRO merely repeated himself in insisting that what the consumers collectively buy determines what's better. As CON later points out, this doesn't really address her argument. 2) Indeed, she did say that "There are professionals whose jobs literally revolve around judging and rating games; not consumers", but there is no need to provide a source for this seeing as how its common knowledge that game companies DO in fact have reviewers constantly reviewing games. ========= RE Playability | ========= A misunderstanding. The point is that those extra games were all created on other Nintendo systems. Just because you can play them on the Virtual Console aspect of the Wii (which, by the way, the Xbox 360 allows for such downloads as well, a greater scale of games so to speak) doesn't mean that such games should be attributed to the Wii in the first place. PERFORMANCE: PRO concedes here. =================== RE: The Dropped Arguments | =================== In response to "In Round 2, PRO said, "Furthermore, you have admitted that most players do enjoy using the Wiimote." In Round 4, CON finally replies, "This is an opinion with no evidence to support it." A bit late." Even if we are to adhere to this idea about the importance of dropped arguments, I believe my opponent is forgetting one crucial thing: IMPACTS. How does the matter of one PERSONALLY thinking that most players enjoying the Wiimote really effect the debate? At the start of the debate, theLwerd admitted to personally liking the PS3 all the systems, yet opponent did not use this to fuel his case. The same reasoning applies here. In response to "To settle the Wii Fit dropped argument . . ." CON had mentioned Dance Dance Revolution on the 360 as well as its encouragement of body movements. As for injuries, clear warnings can be found in the Wii manual itself: http://www.1up.com... As CON herself stated, "Finally, what Pro failed to mention are the various INJURIES that can be sustained from using the Wii (hence the warnings). " CON insinuates that the reason the 360 wins the category is because there is less physical excursion revolving around its games in general (DDR is one of the only games which lots of body movement is encouraged) whereas the Wii encourages body movement in general for its games. This increases the likelihood of physical injury. In response to "As for one-player games, "Listing the fact that there are many 1 on 1 games you can play on the Wii is entirely irrelevant, since there are just as many 1 on 1 games that you can play on the 360." This is another issue of common knowledge. Of course there are a great deal of 1 on 1 games for the 360. If PRO insist, I shall gladly point him to IGN.com and provide quick analysis on Xbox360 games stacked up against Wii games. >>>>>.AS FOR THE RECAP: I'll respond to the points numerically. 1) There is nothing on DDO which indicates that new arguments count as bad conduct. Not to mention that PRO made a new argument. 2) PRO never pointed this out. 3) Already addressed this. 4) If CON indicated this in earlier rounds and pro didn't address it, it goes through