most people know right from wrong.

you said "to tell you the truth morality is based on science. im assuming you mean observation. but most people blindly accept their moralities at their mothers knee. their consciences consist of vague reminiscences of precepts heard in early youth as bertrand russell said and it has been proven if common sense didnt prove it. all of our parents believe differently so we have different moralities. now how can murder be right and wrong? how can rape be right and wrong? how can sex before marriage be right and wrong? if everything is both right and wrong then whats the point of a morality? i guess i can do whatever i want and you will say im right. infact you should say that so as not to contradict yourself. you said " the best morality is the kind that you know will benefit you the most. ok so you do think i should do whatever i want and call it righteousness. the best kind of morality i think is the kind that benefits both you and the group or society if you will. i dont think morality should be as selfish as you seem to think it should be. apparently one of us doesnt know right from wrong. also you said morality is based on science and then you are saying we should make up our moralities. contradiction. the imagination is not scientific. its the exact opposite of observation. you also said " the best kind of morality is the one made up by you". so you actually think everybody making up their moralities is good? most people are not smart enough. to have a good morality you have to know what is fair. everybody disagrees on what constitutes a fair fight. do you stand them up when it goes to the ground? some say yes some say know because it puts grapplers at a disadvantage. some say anything goes and some want ground rules. i could go on alll day. to know what is fair for a human you must answer many questions no one is even trying to answer. question one what are we? the questions that this is asking are are we spiritual beings that have free will or are we physical beings that do what we do because something is causing us to do it. the answer to this will determine whether or not criminals deserve to suffer. some dont believe in free will and some do so how can they both know right from wrong. also this is asking how smart are we. do we know right from wrong is the next question that is included in what are we. some think we know right from wrong while smart people dont think we do as we all contradict each other which proves that belief wrong. the other questions i can think of right now are what are we in relation to each other and why are we here. what are we in relation etc. is asking are some less deserving than others and stuff like this and everybody disagrees. some peoples moralities dont follow that racism is wrong because blacks and others are less deserving than we are. i dont agree but clearly most people dont know right from wrong. and most people in the past were racist. they contradict us. you still have yet to comment on the contradictions ive brought up. why are we here determines what we should do with our lives. then you have to prioritise morals and that is difficult for most to do as they fumble around and screw it up and once again they all contradict each other which you have no rebuttal for apparently. you say morality is to go along with our self interests. i want many things that i shouldnt do what i have to do to acquire them. your basically saying i should be a sociopath. you havent mentioned others once in telling me what a morality is about. if everyones morality was about self interest there would be chaos because everyone doing whats best for themselves would create chaos because there is a conflict of interest. that means conflict cruelty and many other things that most of us dont want here in america. are you from another country? you say wrong is what goes against the self interest of other people. everybody has different interests and moralities so your saying i have to treat people according to their moralities or im wrong while i should do what serves my interest which is a contradiction. how can i do what i want and what someone else wants. conflict of interest as ive stated. you say there is no ultimate morality. that means we do not know morality as we are never finished learning so we do not know all of right and wrong. i agree and think you for supporting the con side. ok dude. you said something about morality in politics. when any topic arises most people have every possible answer to the question is this policy right or wrong and why. they give every possible answer to any question. clearly we dont know right from wrong when it comes to politics because we cannot agree on whether or not a politician is good or bad. if we dont know good from bad we do not know right from wrong. you say we need oganized morality but you also say the best morality is the one made up by you. contradiction.