The Evidence Points to Atheism

Argument 1: Non Cognitivism 3. The term “God” lacks a positively identified A. (A. Primary Attributes) List of God's known attributes http://www.theopedia.com...'s_known_attributes Eternal Holiness Unchanging Impassable Infinite All-powerful Everywhere-present All-wise All-knowing Simple Self-existent Self-sufficient Immaterial Good Love Gracious Merciful Just Sovereign http://www.theopedia.com...'s_known_attributes Argument 2: Argument from Reasonable non-belief. "atheists manifestly exist." - only for now. At some point in the future the atheist will be confronted with the reality of his creator. We all will. "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." King James Bible Mathew 12:36 - Yes this is from the bible. - The bible has demonstrated its authenticity by fulfilling over 2000 prophecies to the letter. Argument 2a: Application to Bay’s Theorem. response - God exists, he came and dwelt among us in bodily form as Jesus Christ. Jesus is a historical figure. No competent historian will deny the historicity of Jesus Christ. Therefore - God exists. 1. Contingency 2. Kalam All Con says is the name of the arguments, but these arguments if valid only show the universe had a cause. Con needs to prove that cause is God and the reason of the universe's existence is because of God. The arguments are irrelevant until Con proves otherwise. Response: Classical argument Everything that has a beginning of its existence has a cause of its existence; The universe has a beginning of its existence;Therefore: The universe has a cause of its existence. Contemporary argument Argument based on the impossibility of an actual infinite. An actual infinite cannot exist. An infinite temporal regress of events is an actual infinite. Therefore, an infinite temporal regress of events cannot exist. http://en.wikipedia.org...... Proof that the cause is God: The attributes of this cause must match the attributes in (A. Primary Attributes) as written above near the top of this page This proves the universe had a beginning, and had a cause and the cause was God and we know at least some of Gods attributes. I encourage you to become a Christian and follow the living God, repent from sin and serve Him in the name of Jesus Christ amen. find a new testament and read it with an open mind and ask yourself if this might be the true God. 3. The moral argument Murder for fun is wrong because it is against Gods will. Anything contrary to Gods will is wrong. it is wrong regardless of how you feel about it. Objectively wrong. question Do you affirm objective morals? or do you think morals are subjective? Euthyphro dilemma "Is that which is good commanded by God because it's good, or is it good because God commands it?" or "would you still have knocked over the pot if I hadn't said anything?" -oracle in "the Matrix" I want to just state here that there ARE some mysteries of God that He has simply not revealed to us at this time. We can't pretend that we know everything about Him, he is unsearchable in some ways. I'll ponder this question for a bit… I think the fine tuning argument is very sound. You posted nothing but conjecture, and speculation. I cant seem to even extract 1 coherent argument in there. could you maybe summarize all these quotes for me into an argument. lastly.. Ontological Argument "The Ontological Argument is an attempt to prove God’s existence, first postulated by Anselm. In brief, it states that - God is a being of which no greater thing exists or can be thought of. Therefore, since we can conceive of God as the greatest of all things that exist, then God must exist." http://carm.org... Job 38 King James Version (KJV) 38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, 2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? 3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? 8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? 9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, 10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, 11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed? 12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; 13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? 14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. 15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken. 16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth? 17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death? 18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all. 19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof, 20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof? 21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great? 22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail, 23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war? 24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth? 25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; 26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man; 27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth? 28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew? 29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it? 30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen. 31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? 32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? 33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth? 34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee? 35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go and say unto thee, Here we are? 36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart? God IS a being of which no greater thing exists or can be thought of. I now ask you to present a positive case for atheism. What is your "evidence"?