Batman is a better superhero than Iron Man

So shooting someone who is threatening a child with a gun is murder? That’s absurd and I’m sure the voters agree with me. I’m assuming we are acting under the same definition of murder, which is purposely killing of another human being. Following this definition, Iron Man is a mass murderer, having purposely killed numerous people in Iron Man 1, 2, and the Avengers. I realize what my opponent is trying to do here, because we saved someone’s life it is acceptable to kill someone. Well, it isn’t. It is still murder. Batman, unlike Iron Man, saves people’s lives and DOESN’T MURDER ANYONE IN THE PROCESS. No he doesn’t. The only time he comes close is when there are doctors disguised as hostages. How about all the people in the mansion, you know, the hundreds of people he saved from execution? How heroic is wiping your butt with the constitution, to cover your ineptitude? Considering how my opponent just refuses to accept the fact that Iron Man is a murderer, therefore isn’t it “acceptable” that he violated people’s rights to save people? Following my opponent’s logic, it is. Also, Batman destroyed the machine immediately after. Batman is only effective at night. This is shown in the by the bank robbery at the beginning of TDK that he never shows up for. Had my opponent watched the movie carefully, he would notice that at the beginning two of Joker’s henchmen on the roof of the bank destroyed the bank’s secret alarm out to the police. As the henchman says: “That’s weird, it was trying to call a private number, and not the police. ” That private number is Batman. Secondly, in The Dark Knight Rises Batman engages in daytime fighting had my opponent watched the movie. I know all about Ra’s Al Ghul’s Lazarus pits. Only problem is that in Nolan’s batverse, Ra’s is dead. It’s what drives the entire plot of the third movie. I wasn’t talking about the Lazarus pits, it is the effect the Lazarus pits had on Ra’s after his continued use. Ra’s had all the life sucked out of him by an Egyptian mummy and survived. He is essentially immortal. He can survive a train wreck. Secondly, my opponent specifically requested we use the mainstream continuity and recent film franchises as our sources. The “mainstream continuity” isn’t just limited to Nolan’s batverse. Finally, Ra’s death isn’t what drives the plot at all in the third movie. Only because Bruce Wayne told him how messed up Gotham was. That creates the conflict in the first and third movies. I’d rather have the mob running things than mercenaries who plan to blow up the entire city. Once again, a lack of Batman knowledge. Ra’s entire plan even before he met Bruce was to destroy Gotham BECAUSE of the fact that the mob controlled EVERYTHING. Now as for Iron Man’s suit, he does make him a better hero because he’s a much more effective hero. Bane, Scarecrow, and the Joker wouldn’t last seconds against Iron Man. It’s more effective, because Iron Man uses guns. Batman doesn’t as guns were what caused his parent’s death and he doesn’t believe in killing. Iron Man has no issue eliminating threats. Batman believes in taking them alive, taking them to the police and justice and possibly rehabilitation in Arkham Asylum. Iron Man is more effective because he has no problem murdering people. Batman gets it done, saves thousands of lives, and doesn’t kill anyone in the process. It does make him less of a hero! Iron Man saves the world and Batman saves a city. Which is more heroic? Batman cares far more for his city. His attention is completely focused on making his home a better place, that is just as heroic as Iron Man caring little amounts for a vast place. Batman has gone to congress to persuade the government not to condemn Gotham. He failed in this, so he returned to Gotham as Batman and fought DAY AND NIGHT to retake the entire city from the gangs roaming the city after NML (No Man’s Land). Yeah, a respected financial magazine but they know nothing about comic book characters. Forbes doesn’t randomly compile numbers, they actually do math to figure out how much these people are worth. For example, Smaug from the Hobbit is considered one of the richest fictional characters ever. They calculated his worth using his length, the number of scales on an average dragon’s belly, the size of the cave, how much of the room Smaug took up, how much air took up, and then the final percentage is how much the gold and silver took up. Using the value of gold and silver at the time, they came to his net worth being around 8.6 billion dollars. Did you watch the movie? He knew it wasn’t safe, that’s why he never used it. I might ask the same question to you. He knew its POTENTIAL danger, yet he had a failsafe mechanism. If everything that was potentially dangerous was gotten rid of, Iron Man’s suit wouldn’t exist. He has a much more effective suit. Because he has “super strength, an advanced AI, machine guns, rockets, and lasers”. In the Iron Man movies, inside his helmet the screen is usually showing a targeting cross hair. He’s effective because he kills. Whiplash, killed. Obadiah, killed. So he doesn’t care about the rest of the world? I never said he doesn’t care about the rest of the world, but his focus is Gotham. He focuses on Gotham far more than Iron Man on the world. Batman is the clear winner. He doesn’t murder anyone, refuses to compromise his principles, and has shown the people of Gotham that peace and good is possible in their lives. He has been a beacon of hope and peace for the people. Iron Man is effective only because he has no issue murdering people. VOTE PRO. “A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a little boy's shoulder to let him know that the world hadn't ended. ” - Batman