This House Believes that Hell exists

I must agree on the fact that the bible is not credible when it comes to the existence of Hell; I said so myself that it wasn't. Unfortunately I have to disagree with there being no evidence period. Even someone that denies that dinosaurs were ever real have to admit that there is a substantial amount of proof on the subject. Philosophically, beliefs from Hinduism being something we can actually see, yes it's evidence for Hell. Hell is on Earth, or is Earth. It needn't have demons that want to rip us all to shreds, when we do such a fine job of that to each other in things as brutal as wars, or something as small as pushing someone out of the way on the sidewalk. Many people have had the pleasure of riding in some sort of moving vehicle, right? Well that vehicle is an instrument being used to get to a certain destination or objective. Applying that type of logic to a "soul" would mean the body is just an instrument we're using to get to a destination or objective, as well. Which could possibly be a "better" place (such as a Christian heaven). Now, on the matter of a physical Hell I'm afraid Christianity (or science fiction novels) are not the only things to be considered religion. I don't want to seem patronizing, so please don't take it that way, but there are other beliefs out there such as Buddhism, Sikhism, or what I'm using for the debate, Hinduism, etc. As I stated earlier on, there needn't be demons. There needn't be fiery lakes of doom and gloom. There needn'tt be western devils or Japanese onis. And I do not speak metaphorically when I say Hell exists, because based upon your very on definition It's a place where the souls of "bad" people are believed to be punished after death, especially in the Christian and Muslim religions. And what better place to be tortured than on the Earth, where cruelty is abundant and in fact, eternal, as you stress? Such as the acts of genocide in WW2 in Germany, or even presently in Darfur, Sudan. But if you're really set on lakes of eternal fire as a depiction of Hell, then never fear. We have the Tambora volcano, which has been killing with "lakes of fire" since 1815. Or perhaps Mount Rokatenda, and so on. I am not an eyewitness to the Holocaust. I am not an eyewitness to the horrors committed in Libya, or areas of South Africa, or the creation of stars light years away. But to say I do not believe in something simply because I haven't seen it with my own eyes would be ridiculous. I know that corrective rape happens in Southern Africa. I know that homosexuals and transgender/transsexuals are persecuted in Russia. I know that Detroit is suffering an economic decline. And all of that is not a product of "faith". All of those things have evidence. And so yes, I agree that on the matter of a claim being made but not having an ounce of proof behind it can easily be dismissed. However, Hell does have evidence of being real. Perhaps not in the way previous human beings have pictured, but it certainly has proof. I thank you for the round, and apologize for my reply taking so long. You stumped me rather good for a bit. I do hope you have a good day, and await your short summary. 1. http://religions.pewforum.org... 2. http://www.history.com...