Blink 182 does not deserve the bashing that they get from so many fans of music

Thanks, nolemane. ==BOP== Extend that the burden to show that criticisms are not "deserved" is to show that the criticisms are untrue. It is 100% allowed for one person to enjoy something in spite of the criticisms being true. I enjoy bacon but acknowledge that the criticism "it's too fatty" is true. Many people enjoy askbob, but acknowledge that the criticism "he's kind of mean to newbies" is true. People like the book Twilight but acknowledge that the criticism "it has shallow dialogue" is deserved. I enjoyed my really comfortable couch, but acknowledge that the criticism "it's an ugly color" is deserved. My opponent asserting that he still likes Blink 182 in spite of the criticisms is NOT proof that the criticisms are not "deserved." ==Rebuttal== +...+ denotes a quote from my opponent C1) They only use 4 chords The problem is that all their songs DO all sound the same. Between their "Enema of the State" Album and their "Take Off Your Pants and Jacket" album, only 3 songs sound really unique (Adam's Song, What's My Age Again, Story of a Lonely Guy). The only reason that these songs sound different is because of the vocals - they all still use only 4 chords. Besides the chorus, the songs The Rock Show and First Date sound so similar that I routinely confuse the two. The rest of the songs on the albums aren't even worth listening to because they're so similar to "every other Blink song." + As for the chords, if it produces good music, then what does it matter? + Vocals aren't all that matters in a song. Pop singers also get criticisms that their songs "aren't real music" because the backgrounds tend to be very cookie cutter. And a criticism being true doesn't mean that a product is not "good." Things can be good in different ways. A chef who only knew how to use 4 spices could produce the rare masterpiece, just like a band that can only play 4 chords. But criticisms of MOST of his food as being too simplistic are valid. All the Blink songs that suck and didn't ever become popular suck because Blink doesn't know how to play more than 4 chords. If they had more complexity, they would produce more unique songs that could stand on the strength of the guitar/bass playing alone. C2) Concerts + i can understand that people are going to wonder why a persons voice changed over 4 years + Roger Love, the premier singing vocal coach in Hollywood, says in his book Set Your Voice Free that if you are singing "correctly" it should put no strain on your vocal cords. He taught Hanson to continue to sing high without straining their voices. Chester, from Linkin Park, sings "wrong" and has put a lot of strain on his voice, yet he still manages to hit all the high notes. If he didn't, Linkin Park would also not be worth seeing in concert. Chester's vocal are a centerpiece of Linkin Park, just like Tom's WERE a centerpiece of Blink. It is not inherently true that someone's voice should change after only 4 years, unless that person just went through puberty. + You can't criticize for wanting to continue to do something that they love to do. + Actually, you can. Most people are doing something they love. The horrible pianist may be doing something he loves, but that doesn't make him any less bad. William Hung LOVED singing, but that didn't make his songs any better ("She Bangs") and didn't make Simon's crushing criticism on American Idol any less "deserved." + They are the only band i know that cracks jokes on stage and really looks like they are having fun at what they are doing. + They're all inside jokes about the lead singer and bassist being gay together (which they're not). Bad music and stupid jokes for 3 hours - what a waste of time. Go watch a Linkin Park concert, and you'll see what real show-manship is all about. + If you have listened to their music before, you should know that they were not going to "excite" the crowd, you should have seen this coming + I was SO pumped to see them, which is why it was such a huge letdown. They deserve every criticism of their concert performances that they get. Compare them to any other band and that band probably offers a better concert experience. + As far as i am concerned people i know return year after year to go to their concerts. + They're probably all so stoned that they can't even tell what's going on onstage anymore. Anyway, some people liking something doesn't mean criticisms of it aren't deserved. Many people think that the Leaning Tower of Pisa is really beautiful, and they go on vacations to see the tower. However, no one can assert that the criticism "it's crooked" is not "deserved." Negated.