Ultimate Team War: GeorgeCarlinWorshipper Style

=============== RE: Evidence in comment section. PRO postulates that the seventh link in my span of links concerning "Hulk vs Sentry" indicates that Sentry was attempting to build up the Hulk's anger or reacquaint hiself with the "pain of comment". This is declared to suggest that the Sentry wasn't fighting to the best of his ability. However, this statement can be explained by a later link in the series of links I provided: http://i118.photobucket.com... Sentry was in awe since he had never had the opportunity to "cut loose" up until this point. As for Sentry moving faster than Hulk and catching a bullet, the Hulk is well capable of moving at Sentry's base speed (which is far below light) seeing as how sources list him as being as fast as Thor (who has performed the same feats): http://en.wikipedia.org... . Nevertheless, the fact that the Sentry could at best hold his own against the Hulk rather than move circles around him indicates my points regarding the Sentry's speed to be correct. ========================== TACTIC ONE CONT: "Leave it to Goku" | ========================== I haven't overlooked Sentry's speed (five miles per second). I've simply insisting that is nothing in comparison to Goku's instant transmission. Even if we were to say that it has the same max/minimum speed restrictions as Sentry (in other words, over 3,000,000x light at it's "max speed"), it's still well above Sentry at his max (who takes several seconds just to reach the Sun), hence indicating that Goku is faster still. Being that this is the case, there is no doubt that Goku could reach Mr. Petreli before Sentry (who moves on par with a slow lummox like the Hulk while on earth) could even attempt to react. As for regeneration, this is something I am also aware of. I agree that Peter could regenerate from his head having been removed. However, there is just one thing my opponent is forgetting: Without a head, Peter Petreli cannot think! If Peter Petreli cannot think, he can't use his power. This is nothing like merely having the top of the skull remove; this is his whole head. His argument also hinges on Peter's head being intact. However, while being punched by someone as strong as Goku, it would at very least explode. If not, adding Ki to his punch would do the job. While Peter was regenerating, Goku could finish the job in the fashion I mentioned and then simply launch his remains out of the ring with Sentry instead of merely Sentry. As we see in the film Cooler's Revenge, Goku was able to launch the powerful alien from earth all the way to the Sun via energy blast. Although it's possible that Mr Petreli would survive while in the sun, he'd never be able to regenerate back to a usable body state given the intense heat as well as the voluminous gravitational pull As for Goku's actual speed, he first states that I cannot attempt to counter his evidence (disregarding the writer's comprehension of light speed travel) without disregarding my own. In response, I'd say that I could easily do that granted that my case hinges primarily off of the numerical data supplied in DBZ. Even if the animation is misleading, we can still conclude that my assessments regarding both Goku's speed and senses (divide his power level of 150,000,000+ by the power level of an ordinary human, which was stated as 5, given Raditz's power evel calculation of the farmer---and we know how much greater his sense are) correct. Furthermore, the writers not having a solid grasp of real world lightspeed movement or showing an inaccurate representation of it is completely acceptable granted that the DBZ universe clearly follows a different set of physics (such as Piccolo destroying the moon without their being any adverse effects on the earth's oceans or the amount of energy found in earthlings outputting the energy found in the sun or Piccolo creating matter when giving Gohan new clothes). As for his comments concerning my explanation of fights not being shown in real time for the sake of the audience, I can cross apply my elaboration of my previous points here (different set of physics, ergo different rules). I'd also like to mention that we're actually able to see Sentry as he is flying at his fastest towards the sun. We're able to see the Flash and Superman as they race to determine who the world's fastest man is. All who have been stated to be light speeders. What I'm saying has plenty of precedent in fiction. Regarding the impact of Goku's attacks being heard as they land, this assumes that the effects of the attacks as well as the sounds are as fast as the fighters themselves. However, if we are to make assumptions, I could just as easily assume that the two were moving so fast that the sound as well as the visible effects of the attacks were vastly delayed after each actual blow. What's more, such instances can be observed by the after image technique which had existed all the way back during dragon ball, thus making my assumption all the more likely. SUMMARY: Regeneration is pointless if Sentry is still unable to "will" time hyper accelerated via thought (which the brain would be needed to do). =============== TACTIC NUMBER TWO: BUILT IN PREP TIME adjustment: =============== Given PRO's explanation regarding hyper acceleration, I shall concede my adjustment (or rather additional tactic, as I had phrased in the comment section) and stick to the two tactics which I've held onto since the 2nd round (which relies on whether or not you agree that Goku is fast enough to get to Mr. Petreli and prevent him form using his powers of hyper acceleration) ================================== RE: "Regarding Instant Transmission and the Pocket Dimension ... " There is no point in the 8th DBZ film where a pocket dimension is even mentioned, much less used to describe the workings of instant transmission. Nevertheless, I quickly decided to skim through the film to confirm this. Having skimmed the whole film, I came across one particular scene that stuck out: http://www.youtube.com... Go to 4:39 on the video to the rght: This is probably where the pocket dimension rumor came from. However, not only is there no reference to a pocket dimension, but we clearly see Goku speeding across the galaxy (hence seeing him pass planets) as well as him yet again comprehending the speed at which instant transmission goes. Thus, even movie 8 PROVES that Goku instant transmission is pure speed. In the few other instances of the film where instant transmission is used, GOku doesn't described the technique, much less are we given as much detail of the technique as we were in the sole instance I am discussing. ================================ CONCLUSION: As PRO noted the entire debate came down to me proving whether or not Goku was fast enough to stop Mr. Petreli from hyper accelerating to a rate which would secure his team the victory. Not only did I prove that Goku could reach Mr. Petreli before he was even aware that the battle had begun, but that he is also much faster than Sentry. PRO's final defense on this issue was to argue that Mr. Petreli's healing factor would steer him the victory, but what he forgot to take into consideration was that getting your head knocked offed vastly differed from getting the top of the skull skimmed away and that Goku's superhuman strength alone could easily decimate Petreli's head (brain and everything completely). He argues that Goku using additional ki would take concentration, but we're talking about a guy who can destroy a planet with a single blast. It wouldn't take any real concentration to summon up enough ki to incinerate a human head. ------------------------------------ Convincing Arguments: See my conclusion Sources: I agree with PRO's assessment. Conduct: Same S/G: Same