Dota 2 is Better than League of Legends - Debate II

I will have great pleasure in debating about your rebuttals 1. Learning Curve A game can be simple can can be fun at the same time. The hard at the same time but not be the better game. It might feel rewarding to you to play league by other people can be rewarded playing league. " Some people prefer a specific level of difficulty is invalid, as it isn't relevant to prove which game is better" Why are you arguing about learning curve if you say that the level of difficulty doesn't matter. You also say that the opponents feed you the entire time on league, not DOTA. Both games has there play style but more people prefer the simple style of League, and just having fun killing stuff. As where in DOTA you can have fun but it harder too understand making it less enjoyable to people. This is why I believe that League is a good game. 2. Graphic The Riot team has been busy creating maps for different game modes. It takes time to create a map and too roll out the glitch in the map, the map it self is find to play in. Even if the League map where outdated it attracts people more people then DOTA. As you said in the second argument graphic don't matter so this shouldn't be an argument. DOTA might have better graphic but if people don't like the game then it doesn't matter. 3. The core game play in League and DOTA is to push up and destroy the Nexus/Ancient. This has opened up to the meta game where people decide whats the best strategies in League/DOTA. People in both game that are highly skilled can deny creeps and harass the opponent. But in lower ELO people don't care about the strategies they want to have fun. While DOTA does have it item actives and denying towers, league has summoners spells which are tools for you to benefits yourselfs. While both game are similar they have a lot different(champion kits, items, spells, mysteries). Both games are played differently and a suited to what the community decides what best. 4. Community There are way to make the community better. Riot made if you get chat restricted you don't get end season rewards. Reporting people, and muting them are way to solve the problem. Playing with friend are the best solution because in both community there are people that will be toxic no matter what. League is a game with a high player base so there will be natural more toxic people then in DOTA. There are some people that get pleasure of trolling other players, but with a game with such high player base it is hard to not meet bad people. The holes in your rebuttal is that muting is a indirect solution is that if you mute someone they can never annoy you and you can do this with all bad players. Secondly is the bad player are offending you why will you chose to talk to them. My opponent critic about the League community yet he never address that there are toxic player in DOTA. Popularity: "more simplistic and not requiring much thought" and "quality of said games, not the amount of people who play the said game. " Firstly you should argue about popularity is we are talking about quality. And a game can be high quality even if it is simply. If you think that DOTA is a better game but yet League has more player and more people think league is better and more people play it, it reflects that more people think league is a better game. E-sports: Most pro player are motivated by getting into LCS and then going to Worlds for the Summoner cup. And the League of legends worlds season 4 had the exact stats as your said number. Therefore your arguments is invalid. "It requires hard work and extreme talent to be a professional DOTA player" I believe that League pro and DOTA pro work equal hard. In league you have to be top 5 or you going to regulation(which is when a challenger team come to try to your take your spot in the lcs). In Korea many player wake up early and scrim and play all day this is something not everyone can do. "competitive Dota requires more teamwork for pushing objectives and killing fed enemies. " I believe that this statement is biased. In any Pro team game there are teamwork. In league they call ganks, team fight, wards, roams, MIA, to go in or back off and what to do. It's not as simple as "pushing objectives and killing fed enemies" as in pro games people rarely run into the enemy to feed. Motivation:"if you have enough money, you can buy all of the characters without any effort. This supports a pay to win strategy. " Yes if you do have money you can buy more champs, but this is not pay to win. Most of the champs in League have counter in champion and item. Buying all the champions does not let you instantly be good you need to practice and if are good with a champion then you should be able to beat any champion. Best wish to you in your next arguments