According to the Old Testament, Jesus is the Messiah.

The only reason I didn't refute your "six prophesies" in these rounds was because I wanted to keep them short, but I will do it here. I realize now that you can't try to refute my rebuttals, but that kind of thing could go on forever! Let me explain to you--yet again--how the Old Testament does not matter when conversing the story of the Messiah, even in this debate, because the title is obviously not about prophesies. Before that, I need my opponent to know how the Christian Messiah is Jesus and the birth of Jesus does not happen until the New Testament. The OT can prove how Jesus is the Messiah through prophesies, and that's how Jesus can be proven through in that section of the Biblical artifact. God is the Messiah, yes, because of the Trinity. John 10:30 says that Jesus said "I and the Father are one." If this is not proof enough, then Philippians 2:5-8 says "Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross." I do not see what my opponent means by 'the church.' I don't know about you, but I think its very ignorant and wrong to accuse a church, wherever that may be and whatever this church is, of what "it" teaches and what it says about the age of the earth. This is irrelevant to anything. The link he gave said nothing about the Church, instead it was all on the topic of the Big Bang. The Origin of Life is a completely different debate topic so I will not further argue this odd subject my opponent came up with. Sorry but it's true, none of what he said was relevant to this matter. Rebuttals for my opponents #'s: "Wow born of a woman, I guess every person that has even existed fulfills this prophecy." Anybody would say that it's not evident that the real, perfect Savior/Messiah came as a real human, born into the earth as ANY normal human would (in case you didn't realize, Jesus isn't quite what you'd call normal). My opponent didn't say anything for #2. "Isaiah says that the child will be called Immanuel. So maybe we should worship him. If you would read my link, 'young virgin' could just mean 'young woman."' Immanuel is a symbolic name which appears in chapters 7 and 8 of the Book of Isaiah as part of a prophecy assuring king Ahaz of Judah of God's protection against enemy kings; it is quoted in the Gospel of Matthew as a sign verifying the divine status of Jesus. [1] "Genealogy in the Bible is passed down from father to son, and Jesus didn't have a birth father. Number three contradicts with number four." First off, Jesus has two Fathers (as do we), and those are the birth/earthly dad and the Heavenly Father who is God. Secondly how does #3-4 contradict each other?! I don't see in what way. My opponent didn't give any points for #5, #6, #7. When you look up in the Bible the verses in Hosea and Matthew which prove where the Messiah would be, it is clear God wasn't saying that Israel would stay in Egypt, as my opponent claims. No response for #9. "It seems contradictory to be the chosen one to save the world but also to be forsaken by God." The actual idea of the love, forgiveness, and mercy God shows through sending His very Son to die is almost unbelievable (and an amazing love story) but in no way is it contradictory! God chose Jesus to save the world, and the way that our Messiah saved us was when God had to turn away and forsake Jesus. The forsaking was part of the plan, and God did it because He is holy and the unholy sin was brought as a burden off of our shoulders and onto Jesus' back. Some things don't need explanations because it is obvious. But I can see how an atheist would say "...most books of the Bible are by anonymous writers after the death of Jesus. There are contradictions in what the writers say happened." My refutation is that all Scripture is inspired by God and we can know that with the personality and things God and His saints/disciples say throughout the Bible. "Changed lives does NOT mean you are right." If I converted you, wouldn't it prove something? There are so many stories out there of atheists, if not militant, who get converted--is this just because they gave in or gave up? No, some say it's the Holy Spirit...some get converted because of the amount of evidence there is for a Creator and the logic behind it. [2] [3] I didn't gripe you on websites of bible verses! I only made a point that if the voters are planning on giving a few points to Con for "more sources," most of the sources he/she gave were from BibleHub or BibleGateway, etc. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Now for the well-awaited refutations of my opponent's six supposed requirements for a Messiah! "1. Must be a member of the tribe Judah and a descendant of King David and Solomon. If Jesus was the result of a virgin birth, how can he be a descendant of David and Solomon?" When Jesus came into the world, he was not a newly created individual such as we are, but was rather the eternal Son of God. To be born into this world of the virgin Mary required divine intervention, and this is exactly what the gospels record. Jesus is a descendant of David, I do not wish to present more evidence as I have given proof throughout this entire debate. See the video at top. http://www.youtube.com... "2. Ingathering of the Jews...I have a cousin who is a Jew and she lives in the US." My opponent then gives sources for the Bible: Deuteronomy 30:3 has nothing to do with ingathering of Jews. I have nothing to rebut here. "3. Rebuilding of the Jewish Temple. The temple was destroyed 38 years after Jesus' death and has not yet been rebuilt...Jesus didn't rebuild the temple as it wasn't demolished yet." John 2:19. [4] "4. World wide peace. [9]. I don't think this one needs commenting on." Where is this a requirement for the Messiah? My opponent says Micah 4 is evidence for that statement. If anyone looks closely, it says that 'IN HTE LAST DAYS nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.' It doesn't have to do with Jesus' life! "5. Observance of the Torah embraced by all Jews. Messianic "Jews" are "Jews" that do not follow the Torah, just for example." I'd like to see another example. Again, the Bible doesn't say anything about al Jews embracing the Torah! "Everyone will worship the true God. There are around 19 major religions." How is this a prophesy the Messiah had to fulfill? Yes there are many religions, but not in Jesus' time. These are all totally fake reasons my opponent tried to show Jesus didn't fulfill the prophesies of the Old Testament, therefore I win best argument points! Not that this is all about winning. Still, my opponent gave no good reasons why Jesus is not the Messiah according to the Old Testament. Thank you for a great debate. SOURCES [1] http://en.wikipedia.org... [2] http://www.reddit.com... [3] http://www.doesgodexist.org... [4] http://biblehub.com... [5] http://www.revelations.org.za...