Garchomp-Mega should be moved to Ubers.

By "not an expert" I hope you're referring to my debate expertise and not to my pokemon expertise. I would be offended if you were not. ;) Anyways, Attack Rebuttals: "But if lucario is sent to ubers, I think garchomp should be too. Here is why..." - Garchomp and Lucario play very differently. They both have different types, base stats, abilities, move sets, etc. By comparing their base stats and saying that "Garchomp's are better in certain areas" is obvious and proves NOTHING. They are both completely different pokemon and just because one is sent to Ubers does not mean the other belongs there. "Plus he has sand force" - I have already shown that this does not matter. "move pool consisting of moves such as, but not limited to, outrage, dragon claw, swords dance, earthquake, stone edge, brick break, crunch, and aqua tail. Throw this diversity in along with sand force, STAB, and that huge attack and you have a sweeper." - A pokemon can only have 4 moves. The most reasonable move-set for Ubers use is Outrage, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Stone Edge. Not very diverse. I have already shown that Sand Force is useless and he does not make a good sweeper. "Garchomp's admittedly lackluster speed can easily be remedied with either tailwind or some speed boosts." - Both the supportive strategies involving Talonflame and Scolipede are poor choices in Ubers so we must expect that a smart player will leave them behind. "Lets see how mega Garchomp matches up against some of the most used pokemon in OU." - These are pokemon in OU. It is obvious that he can stand his own against them. This does not mean he is ready for Ubers. Corrections and Rebuttals to your Rebuttals and Constructive: "But that doesn't mean that there is no sandstorm in uber. Hippodon, with its gigantic defense and attack and tyranitar, a legit pseudo legendary with monstrous defenses and attack. Slap a smooth stone on and the sandstorm just became a lot better." - As I pointed out before, Sandstorm does exist. It just is not a good idea. Smooth Rock (not stone) lengthens Sandstorms duration to 8 turns. So what? If the weather is changed then lengthening Sandstorm doesn't matter. If you aren't going to switch Tyranitar or Hippowdon then that eats away at the turns you still have under Sandstorm. In order to make them viable threats you'd need a better item than Smooth Rock. They get countered harder than Garchomp does in Ubers. "Groudon, even with its monstrous stats, doesn't want to switch in on an earthquake from either of these pokemon." - You are partially mistaken. Groudon and Hippowdon both 4HKO each other but Groudon is faster so he'd get the kill if Hippowdon didn't get a hit on the switch in. Groudon has a 43.8% chance to OHKO Tyranitar (garunteed 2HKO) and Tyranitar can Barely 4HKO Groudon. Besides, there are plenty of other ways to deal with Hippowdon or Tyranitar besides bringing Groudon in to suicide. "Kyogre will fair a little better, but then either one will just switch out to a pokemon better equipped to deal with rain, such as pakila, who will smack back with thunder." - I assume you mean Palkia. We aren't saying there aren't ways around either of these I'm just saying that this would still put an end to Sandstorm and make Garchomp that much more useless. " Garchomp is not a one-poke team. [...]That is what the other five pokemon on the team are for." - If you want to base a entire team around supporting one mediocre pokemon then by all means go for it. Just be ready to lose allot. Every pokemon is supposed to support the rest of the team not drag the rest down. "With a choice scarf, garchomp becomes a good revenge killer; outspeeding a good chunk of the uber metagame." - We are debating MEGA Garchomp not regular Garchomp. He cannot hold two items and since he already has the Garchompite he cannot hold Choice Scarf. "How about all of the blaziken's, ho-oh's, and salamence's around?" - So what if he handles a handful of them well. If the opponent is sending these against Garchomp you have already won the battle or they aren't very smart. A smart player would obviously counter it with one of the many counters I listed. "But look at [Celebi's] typing. Bug and Psychic. " - Don't mean to burst your bubble but, Celebi's typing is Grass/Psychic. It has 6 weaknesses. You cannot compare Celebi to Garchomp, they're vastly different. This actually helps my case. As you said, Celebi can play a rare role in Ubers, a cleric. As said before, many pokemon can to what Garchomp does better. "Garchomp Vs Blissey" - Blissey will Toxic Garchomp so this isn't a good idea. "Garchomp Vs Darkrai" - Brick Break is a terrible choice over Stone Edge or Dragon Claw. This would never happen. As mentioned before, he can counter a few but he is not worth a spot on a team. In sports terms; he isn't star player material, he's bench warmer material. If put in Ubers I cannot stress enough just how bad he'd be. On to the final round's ending . Good luck Pro.