Resolved: The United States should send military into N. Korea.

Russia part. Okay first of all i never said Russia would put troops in North Korea. They would however help fund North Korea. Like Equipment, funds and other supplies like food and water. The other part you were trying to claim actually have no part in this debate. Russia and Nato is a whole other discussion. This is a debate which contends should the US get in a war with North Korea. Either though i never mention Russia putting troops on the ground. You still can't rule against it, why because you don't actually know. No one saw Russia putting ground troops in Syria's, or Ukraine. So you said it has no interest on defending North Korea. But it does have a interest. Those interest is trade, and having less Democratic nations around them. Plus all you have to do is look though history. Countries who support another or provide supplies, sooner or later get involve military. I will give you one example, the United States were supporting and giving supplies to Europe for years before they actually put troops they to fight. 1. Morality- You mention you don't have any other evidence expect China only using war threat as a tool and have no means to actually get involved. Again this isn't a 100% or even a 90% sure. You will be risking a bigger war. You also say "it doesn't make logical sense" for russia nor china to get involve. It also not logical sense to have a war with North Korea. Which could cost hundreds of thousands to millions of lives. That not logical at all. And for what some human right issues, and threats. The last time i check war supposed to happen when another country invaded another. And North Korea have not done that. Another thing you say, threats made by China is a bargaining chip. That the same with North Korea threats then. Because North Korea have no intend on doing any action by these threats. 2. Political- You said "Giving North Korean to South Korea was just an example." A bad example then. Another bad example you mention is giving the wasteful land to china. It will become wasteful after the war with the US. And China don't want to deal with the humanitarian crisis never mind what they have to do during the war. So again China want to see peace and the status quo, not war. "Kim Jong Un invites South Korean President Moon to Pyongyang". (15.) https://www.cnn.com... In your argument you never mention any kind of peace deal or giving peace a chance. You just want to go in a war and kill hundreds of thousands to millions. For what? You not even attempting to give peace a chance. The world would agree on giving peace a chance. In your logic we should had gone in a war with Soviet Union back then right? Without even trying to Co-exist with each other. One way to piss off the world leaders is rushing toward a war without justification and with out giving peace a real chance. 3. Existential- You didn't read what i actually mean then. The example i put with Syria. This will be the case with North Korea. In Syria, Russia put troops in there and force the US to back down on doing anything against Syria President Bashar al-Assad because. While China also help out Syria on the out side. Like giving humanitarian aid and supplies. What will happen in North Korea will be similar. But China would be the ones putting troops on the ground and Russia helping out in other area's. So with the US forcing there way in a war with the North it will still be risking a war between the other two. If the US try to force Kim out of power without real justification, you will get a push from china and russia. This will be far more serious and far more dangerous than syria would have ever become. Because a lot more people will die, more places would get destroy, in a late faster time. Again you are willing to put Japan, South Korea, even parts of the US like Hawaii and California in jeopardy in a war. That doesn't spell out logic doest it? 4. China. You trying to say China threats are for bargaining chips only. Where the same thing with North Korea. They making threats without actually going though with it. So your war with North Korea is unjust. "If we listen to North Korean quotes as evidence, then we have to believe their threats". If you going to believe North Korea threats then why you wont believe China threats as well? I already told you North Korea only making them to back the US off. They have no real intend on using them expect if they were attack first. I already told you why China would help out the North. If you we use your logic and go to war with North Korea. You will be risking something even bigger. You not correct on attacking the North without probable cause. You not giving peace a chance at all. And it seem everyone else what that. So again why risk millions of life, if all they want is peace? You ignoring the fact that millions could die and this is just for you? Killing off millions is the right thing to do by your logic. No peace, no coexisting, no compromising, just war... 5. Is just irrelevant arguments by you. Why Because i never admitted they would not be a global war. I did say you would be risking one if you attack North Korea without giving peace a chance. The human rights issues that are happening in North Korea is not just for war. Risking millions of lives and even more lives being destroys for human rights is not a cause for war. What happening in Syria is far worst then what is happening in north korea. And yet the syria leader is back by russia and china. Kim Jong um would get the same kind of support if the US use force. "Trump administration goes after China over intellectual property, advanced technology" (16.) https://www.washingtonpost.com... Will likely trigger an investigation into China"s alleged theft of U.S. intellectual property, a measure that could eventually result in a wide range of penalties as the administration seeks a new way to deal with what it calls Chinese violations of the rules of international trade. The theft of intellectual property by foreign countries costs our nation millions of jobs and billions and billions of dollars each and every year, Once the US find evidence of alleged theft of U.S. intellectual property, Trump then will slap tariff on Chinese goods. China will then also slap tariff on the US goods. Yet that coercion might unleash a trade war between the two biggest economies they would effect everything from soy-beans to smartphones. China is the US largest partner with $510.6 billions in the two way trade from last year. According to the office of trade representative. This will for sure have negatives affect on relations. "Beijing intends to turn these artificial outposts into military footholds that will provide it with power projection capability right across the South China Sea. Each island has hangers for 24 fighter jets, as well as bombers and surveillance aircraft. Each island has bombers and surveillance aircraft. Anti-aircraft and antimissile systems can be seen on one of the artificial islands. In a crisis, these facilities would significantly complicate US war plans and access to the South China Sea at acceptable levels of cost and risk. There"s also a more important day-to-day implication: these new military outposts allow China to dramatically extend its strategic reach from its southern shores down to Indonesian waters, creating a new strategic status quo and a Chinese sphere of influence. Beijing, in other words, is seeking to become the dominant military power in this part of the world with a capacity to prevent, deny or veto other countries from accessing these waters."(17.) world/asia/south-china-sea-controversy-heats-up-as-manmade-islands-are-almost-complete/news-stor4aa8664ef1f147d704b8f1e78e62516 China is already trying to challenge the US in the pacific. "Top US general: China will be 'greatest threat' to US by 2025". (18.) http://www.cnn.com... A theory is a major war happens every 70 to 80 years. Base on this, we are right about there. According to Graham Tillett Allison, is an American political scientist and professor at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, we are entering Thucydides trap. China is challenging the US over dominance power, over trade, territorial areas, military, and economy. So there is reason why China will help out the North. And there are risk involve of miscalculations which we have with North Korea. "There is too much to lose from a war and in no scenario will a war between superpowers pan out". You are right they is too much to lose. So why risk the war with North Korea? When things could get out of control. Things got out of control in the first Korea war. And things will again but this war will be much worst. So why risk it? Why not try for peace instead?