The Bible Qualifies as a Collection of Fairy Tales - B

A few responses to GodSands' statements... >> "Fairly tale by defintion of a human perspective you should have put." I'm curious what other perspective one could take... >> "As humans name creature when found, for example dragon is a out dated name from dinosaur, as dinosaur (the word) was founded in 1841. Before that people called dinosuars dragons. As the word dinoraur means "terirrble lizzard"." My opponent's main source of argument seems to be etymological... very well.... ************************** 1. Dragons. My opponent references George and the Dragon, and works backward to the assertion that dragons were really dinosaurs or ancestors of the huge lizards in the Congo. However, the Hebrew word "tannin," which translates literally as "sea or land monster" is used in place of a word like "nachash," which means serpent or snake. It is most likely that the animal referenced in Job 40 is a hippopotamus or a crocodile, both of which historically inhabited the Nile area of Egypt and could have conceivably wandered over to Judea. Job's place of residence is not mentioned either, and could have easily been in that region. Furthermore, the use of "tannin" indicates that the writer was referring to a monster, which would fall under the category of a magical creature OR an incredible statement. 2. Giants My opponent asserts that the Great Flood killed everyone except 8 people and reduced the local oxygen content of the middle east to such an extent that it pygmied the people there. Historical evidence points to malnutrition and poor living conditions for reasons why humans were not tall. Also, skeletal remains of Homo Sapiens from before the time of the great flood show more normal-sized humans. Furthermore, the return of ambient oxygen levels would have been instantaneous, as the water would displace ALL gasses, not just oxygen. There is no historical evidence of giants. 3. Cockatrices GodSands seems to assert that the Cockatrice is some kind of bird/dragon thing that had characteristics added onto it by oral tradition. He also contends that the Cockatrice may have been similar to a Hoatzin, an actual bird. However, the bible uses the Hebrew word "tziph'oni" which is much closer to basilisk, another magical/mythical creature. I submit that the Hoatzdin and any sort of Basilisk cannot be related in any way, as the Hoatzdin is Class Aves and the Basilisk (or "King Serpent") would have been Class Sauropsida or Reptilia. 4. Unicorns Actually, I will concede the point on the unicorn, as I agree that it is a translation error. The Hebrew word used in the verses is "re'em," the plural of "rimu," a type of ox... Though for the record, I must state that your argument on this point was completely unconvincing. 5. The Chaldean's Horses Horses that are "swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves" and who, with their riders, "fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat." ?? Sounds like a problem to me... 7. Sorcerers/Witches My opponent contends that witches exist today, as though there are people that can channel strange powers and bend reality. This is utterly uncompelling. He also contends that the witches in the bible are the mystical kind, conceding the point that the bible has stories about magical characters. 8. Other Gods My opponent admits that other Gods exist, and thus concedes the point that the bible contains stories about magical characters, unless he holds that the other gods have no power, in which case, they are incredible statements... a powerless god? ************************************ >> "Can we do one part at a time lol. I'm finishing here I'll continue the second part (what i just quoted) next time." I suppose we can.... perhaps I should have made this a 5 rounder... ************************************* To sum up... Dragons - Hebrew has words for serpent, snake, and even basilisk... but it uses one meaning monster instead. Giants - No historical evidence for these creatures. Cockatrices - Not Aves, not Sauropsida, not Reptilia.... Mythicalia.... Unicorns - Dropped Cheldean's Horses - Swift as leopards and fly like a hungry eagle... my opponent sees no problem with them. Sorcers/Witches - Conceded by CON Other Gods - Conceded by CON AFFIRMED.