in a fight between pain(nagato) vs madara, pain would win

"naruto pedia--- . http://naruto.wikia.com...... this goes to prove that he does in fact use chakra since under classification it has listed ninjutsu" It does not specify that it uses immesnse chakra, or enough to drain Madara's. Negated. "also he is getting weaker by the minute he even said so himself that "i am mearly a shadow of my former self" That doesn't mean he is getting weaker by the minute. It just means that he isn't as strong as he used to be. No where in that sentence does it imply he is getting weaker. "he was hopeing that the move samsara of heavanly light pain would save to use it on him so that most likley means that his powers are fadeing" Uh, no. I'd love to see where Madara says this, thinks this, or implies this. "naruto pedia--- . http://naruto.wikia.com...... this is an example of how little you know about the rinnegan and so i think that is why you seriously underestimate the power of the rinnegan" Point taken. Still, my other arguments remain. "the moment madara touches PREATA PATH his chakra will be drawn from his body This path's "Chakra Absorption" ability was primarily defensive, since it was capable of absorbing any ninjutsu-related technique, thereby nullifying its effect. This technique could also take the form of a barrier around its body, allowing it to absorb attacks from all directions. In addition to its defensive properties, this body's ability had also shown offensive capabilities, as it could absorb all the chakra out of any person that it touched. " Incorrect. The Preta Path, when absorbing Chakra with intent, I. E. attacking, he must grab the opponent, not the other way around. Aside from that, Madara can materialize and use non ninjutsu things, I. E. Genjutsu, Kenjutsu, Summoning, a weapon. "if he touches DEVA PATH regarded as Pain's most powerful and cherished of the six Paths. Its main abilities revolved around gravity manipulation, allowing it to repel or attract objects or people allowing him to use shinra tensin which could repel madara away before madara finishes" Madara can just teleport to the Deva Path again before the five seconds needed are up. Aside from that, Pein needs to point in the direction of the foe, since Madara has a full orientation of where he is at all times during the technique, he can just teleport behind the Deva Path and suck him in, while Pein will be confused. The Rinnegan only detects chakra when it sees it. Since Pein's paths will be on the surface (presumably), Madara can go underground, where the Pein's can't see him, and pop up, sucking the paths away. "if he touches the HUMAN PATH the human path only needs to touch madara once to drain madara's soul resulting his death" Use his Space-Time ninjutsu, appear behind him, throw a shuriken. If that fails, Summon something, like the Kyuubi or one of the sealed Bijuu. "if madara were to touch the NARAKA PATH the naraka path would use the outer path technique the Naraka Path need only touch a person causing the Outer Path to appear before them. With the victim seemingly paralyzed, the King of Hell will unzip its mouth to release tendril-like arms and would draw out an apparition of the victim's life force energy in the form of an enlarged tongue. " Same as above. "the only two that do not have an abilitiy to protect themselves are the animal path and ASURA PATH although madara would have to solidify in order to teleport him meaning that asura path could execute a titanic shockwave causing imense damage to madara" A shockwave? Really? Did my argument about how Madara's ninjutsu takes a negligible amount of his chakra not get to you? Besides, when Madara appears, he can fake an attack, like he did beforewhen fighting Fu(Danzo's subordinates) "and if madara were to find out the whereabouts of NAGATO feeble body it is said that since nagato has the ability to do everything that his paths can do so the worst thing for madara would be to go for his real body" Um, what? When did this happen? I've never seen the real Nagato use one of the powers his fake bodies has. Since he's been chained to the Gedo Mazo, he forfeited his powers to the fake bodies. "another option that pain has to stop this technique is summoning konan the paper user who would cover all the paths in paper making it so that if madara touches them it will shed off causing an momentary opening for the paths to use their abilities to severly wound if not kill madara" We're not talking about Konan. Fail. "this is the most important of madara's weakness is that during madara's technique it takes a while for the person to be drawn fully from existance it gives time for the other paths to make a move and supposedly interupt the technique and cause damage to madara" Madara doesn't need time to solidify. In the fight between Fu and co. , it took less than a second for him to solidify. "first of all "being able to kill your opponent by giving them a full body blow-job" umm. .. .. .. ." Still haven't negated it. "seacondly it has never been shown that madara can use the ameratsu so therefore that statement is incorrect" Argument from ignorance fallacy. When Itachi died, he imbued his Mangekyo Sharingan within Sasuke, giving him Itachi's (Mangekyo) powers. Since Madara can transplant Sharingan's, and has been doing so, it stands to reason he gains the powers of whatever Sharingan he possesses. "now i do not know where your getting your information from but madara does not have a skull that can protect him from any thing and everything and if he does can you please send a link to where you got this information" Yes, he does. Susanoo. . http://naruto.wikia.com... "seacondly there are many ways that the rinnegan are supirior mangekyo sharingan is powerful dont get me wrong but the rinnegan is the strongest ocular jutsu and even if it is degraded it still is quite powerfull and should be a match if not too much for madara to handle also madara's powers are fadeing and so his mangekyo will have degraded beacuse of the fact that madara has lived this long" No, it will not be. The Original Sage made the moon. Pein made a rock less than a tenth of that. Aside from that, Madara's Mangekyo is still as strong as ever, because he took his brother's eyes, giving him the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. Aside from that, it has been shown in the Manga that Madara takes Sharingans. I would post a picture, but the publishers changed their stance ononline- Manga viewing, so. .. Anyways, I disproved all my opponent's rebuttals, and he has left several of my arguments still standing. Futhermore, he has yet to actually affirm why Pein would win.