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1. Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN#
2. Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN#
3. PLOAD error
4. Installing HSPEXP
5. Re: Installing HSPEXP
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7. ASCII Output from BASINS/HSPF
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18. Re: WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM
19. using the HSPF Bacterial Tool
20. Re: HSPEXP Crash
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25. Open Source or Not?
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29. BASINS Met WDM Data Update
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37. RE: Open Source or Not?
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45. RE:Error while running HSPF - Array subscripts exceeds allocated area
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:35:25 -0400
From: "Jon Butcher" <jo3n@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN#

The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and output 
for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run.  The file unit number for 
the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not 
conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit number. 
If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run.  If it 
provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of the 
uci file) you will need this file.  If it is only storing output (i.e., 
referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you 
comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along with 
the FILES block reference.
As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is check 
that it is not write protected.  This sometimes happens when a file is 
stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitely 
prevent the file from opening successfully.  The wdm should open in WDMUtil 
entirely independent of any .uci file.  Another, less pleasant possibility, 
is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed...
Jon Butcher
Tetra Tech
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <plapal1@umbc.edu>
To: "Private list for BASINS users" <basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN#

> Hi,
>
> I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco area
> watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am an
> undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have the
> .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sections of
> the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one
> pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file.
>
> When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an
> error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan
> filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm file
> referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as opposed to
> the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containing
> data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of code
> to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking that
> it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the UN#
> unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the correct
> value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to comment
> out the WDM line in the FILES block.
>
> Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the code?
>
> Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompanying
> text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil gave
> me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' a
> WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first?
>
> Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input.
>
> - Peter
>
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:24:09 -0400
From: Liz_Scheessele@URSCorp.com
Subject: Re: Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN#

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I've also found that I am unable to open a *.wdm file UNLESS I have pla=
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it on my hard drive (as opposed to a network or CD drive, etc.)  Theref=
ore,
I find it easiest to place the *.wdm within the BASINS folder.
Liz

Liz Scheessele
Project Engineer
URS Corporation
277 Bendix Rd. Suite 500
Virginia Beach, VA 23452
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The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and out=
put
for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run.  The file unit numbe=
r
for
the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not
conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit numbe=
r.
If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run.  If it
provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of =
the
uci file) you will need this file.  If it is only storing output (i.e.,=

referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you=

comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along=

with
the FILES block reference.
As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is c=
heck

that it is not write protected.  This sometimes happens when a file is
stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitel=
y
prevent the file from opening successfully.  The wdm should open in WDM=
Util

entirely independent of any .uci file.  Another, less pleasant possibil=
ity,

is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed...
Jon Butcher
Tetra Tech
----- Original Message -----
From: <plapal1@umbc.edu>
To: "Private list for BASINS users" <basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN=
#

> Hi,
>
> I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco =
area
> watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am a=
n
> undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have=
 the
> .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sectio=
ns
of
> the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one
> pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file.
>
> When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an=

> error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan
> filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm=

file
> referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as oppos=
ed
to
> the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containi=
ng
> data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of c=
ode
> to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking=

that
> it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the U=
N#
> unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the
correct
> value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to
comment
> out the WDM line in the FILES block.
>
> Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the
code?
>
> Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompany=
ing
> text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil g=
ave
> me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' =
a
> WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first?
>
> Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input.
>
> - Peter
>
>
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<tt><font size=3D"2">The wdm file is a binary data storage file that ca=
n store input and output <br>
for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run. &nbsp;The file unit =
number for <br>
the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not <=
br>
conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit numbe=
r. <br>
If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run. &nbsp;If =
it <br>
provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of =
the <br>
uci file) you will need this file. &nbsp;If it is only storing output (=
i.e., <br>
referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you=
 <br>
comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along=
 with <br>
the FILES block reference.<br>
As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is c=
heck <br>
that it is not write protected. &nbsp;This sometimes happens when a fil=
e is <br>
stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitel=
y <br>
prevent the file from opening successfully. &nbsp;The wdm should open i=
n WDMUtil <br>
entirely independent of any .uci file. &nbsp;Another, less pleasant pos=
sibility, <br>
is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed...<=
br>
Jon Butcher<br>
Tetra Tech<br>
----- Original Message ----- <br>
From: &lt;plapal1@umbc.edu&gt;<br>
To: &quot;Private list for BASINS users&quot; &lt;basinsinfo@lists.epa.=
gov&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM<br>
Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN=
#<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Pataps=
co area<br>
&gt; watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I a=
m an<br>
&gt; undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I h=
ave the<br>
&gt; .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sec=
tions of<br>
&gt; the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have on=
e<br>
&gt; pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received=
 an<br>
&gt; error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan<br=
>
&gt; filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The =
wdm file<br>
&gt; referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as op=
posed to<br>
&gt; the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master conta=
ining<br>
&gt; data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line o=
f code<br>
&gt; to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am think=
ing that<br>
&gt; it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left th=
e UN#<br>
&gt; unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the=
 correct<br>
&gt; value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to=
 comment<br>
&gt; out the WDM line in the FILES block.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in t=
he code?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accomp=
anying<br>
&gt; text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUti=
l gave<br>
&gt; me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'ru=
n' a<br>
&gt; WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - Peter<br>
&gt;<br>
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Date: Wed,  2 Apr 2008 19:33:10 -0000
From: "Mery Apple" <mery@hawaii.edu>
Subject: Installing HSPEXP

I am trying to install HSPEXP on my computer.  I am following the steps 
outlined in Appendix D.  I have downloaded HSPEXP from the web and saved it in 
c:\basins\models\hspexp.  I then extract the files, but when I try to use the 
"install" command from the DOS prompt I get a message that "install" is not 
recognized as a command.   

Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong?  Thank you advanced for any help 
you can share.

Mery Apple 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
Graduate Research Assistant 
University of Hawai'i at Manoa 
Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 
1910 East-West Road 
Sherman Lab, Room 241 
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 
Email: mery@hawaii.edu 
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:19:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: Installing HSPEXP

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hspexp has been updated since Appendix D was written.  The current version 
of hspexp is 2.4.  Appendix D was written for an earlier version, 2.3.  To 
install hspexp, you should be able to simply click on the distribution 
file (hspexp2_4.exe) and follow the installation instructions.  There is 
no separate install step.  If you want the program in the Basins directory 
structure, be sure to specify that when you are asked where to install the 
program. 

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I am trying to install HSPEXP on my computer.  I am following the steps 
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it in c:\basins\models\hspexp.  I then extract the files, but when I try 
to use the "install" command from the DOS prompt I get a message that 
"install" is not recognized as a command. 

Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong?  Thank you advanced for any 
help you can share.

Mery Apple 
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University of Hawai'i at Manoa 
Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 
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am following the steps outlined in Appendix D. &nbsp;I have downloaded
HSPEXP from the web and saved it in c:\basins\models\hspexp. &nbsp;I then
extract the files, but when I try to use the &quot;install&quot; command
from the DOS prompt I get a message that &quot;install&quot; is not recognized
as a command. &nbsp; <br>
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Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong? &nbsp;Thank you advanced for
any help you can share.<br>
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Mery Apple <br>
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University of Hawai'i at Manoa <br>
Dept. of Natural Resources &amp; Environmental Management (NREM) <br>
1910 East-West Road <br>
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:56:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: plapal1@umbc.edu
Subject: Re: Installing HSPEXP

Mery,

I am not sure if this is relevant, because my problem with HSPEXP was a
bit different. I had no problem installing the software but running it did
not work properly. The steps I took to correct it may or may not help, so
good luck:

a) found a newer version of hspexp
         http://water.usgs.gov/software/HSPexp/
b) found instructions for installing hspexp2_4.exe
         http://water.usgs.gov/software/HSPexp/code/2.4/DOS/README.TXT
c) download and install hspexp2_4 to C:\Basins
d) to run: Start > Run > Type ?cmd? > Enter . Type ?hspexp?

- Peter
UMBC - TRC - CUERE \ BES LTER - Urban Hydrology

> I am trying to install HSPEXP on my computer.  I am following the steps
> outlined in Appendix D.  I have downloaded HSPEXP from the web and saved
> it in c:\basins\models\hspexp.  I then extract the files, but when I try
> to use the "install" command from the DOS prompt I get a message that
> "install" is not recognized as a command.
>
> Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong?  Thank you advanced for any
> help you can share.
>
> Mery Apple
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Graduate Research Assistant
> University of Hawai'i at Manoa
> Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM)
> 1910 East-West Road
> Sherman Lab, Room 241
> Honolulu, Hawaii 96822
> Email: mery@hawaii.edu
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:11:43 -0400
From: "Chin, David A." <dchin@miami.edu>
Subject: ASCII Output from BASINS/HSPF

Is there an easy way to specify ASCII output (to a file) of the variables s=
elected in the WinHSPF output manager?

Thanks,

David Chin

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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:27:29 +0200
From: Emma Radahl <emma_1982@hotmail.com>
Subject: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF

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t all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value an=
d the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND =
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RLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules.<BR>
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X-lyris-Id: 168247
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:48:54 -0700
From: "Pak, Jay H HEC" <Jay.Pak@usace.army.mil>
Subject: sediment diversion option

Hello,

Is there a sediment diversion option or way for each grain size (clay, =
silt,
sand and gravel) from the main channel to diversion channels in HSPF?

Thanks,=20

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X-lyris-Id: 168250
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400
From: "Tom Jobes" <tjobes@sjrwmd.com>
Subject: RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF

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Emma,

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The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are
summarized in the "print" (text) output file. =20

There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to
any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).

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The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) defines all of
the entries in those tables, if you want to=20

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I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for
PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated
results at all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND
parameter value and the parameter value describing how often output is
written in the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules.
However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and
RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result
anyway.=20
If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do?
(I have tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things
up).
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color:#1F497D'>The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the =
results
are summarized in the &#8220;print&#8221; (text) output file.&nbsp; =
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results
written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).</span></p>

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Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Emma Radahl
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 04, 2008 1:27 PM<br>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I have a question about HSPF; the =
values
input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have =
any
effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had by mistake =
changed
the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value describing how often =
output
is written in&nbsp;the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES =
modules.<br>
However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and =
RCHRES to
the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. =
<br>
If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? =
(I have
tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up).<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Sincerely/Emma Radahl</span></p>

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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:22:50 -0400
From: "Tom Jobes" <tjobes@sjrwmd.com>
Subject: RE: sediment diversion option

Jay,

Normally, there is no way for a diversion exit to preferentially capture
different grain sizes.  The
exit-by-exit output variables for suspended sediment OSED(1-3,*) are
divided essentially proportional
to flow.  You could try doing some tricks with the MASS-LINK blocks to
alter this, but I've never done
this - you'd have to try it yourself and see if the results seem
reasonable.=20

For example, say you have are diverting one RCHRES to another with a
pump that has a relatively high=20
intake that you expect to take up less sand and more clay than the flow
division would indicate, while the
remainder of the flow goes downstream.  The SCHEMATIC would keep its two
lines simply connecting
the two upstream exits to the appropriate receiving reach, but instead
of simple one-line mass-links=20
for each exit:

RCHRES OFLOW 1 -> RCHRES INFLOW
   and
RCHRES OFLOW 2 -> RCHRES INFLOW

for diversion and downstream exits respectively, you could route the
sediment explicitly with constant
fractions like this:

RCHRES OVOL 1 -> RCHRES IVOL
RCHRES ROSED 1  * 0.10 -> RCHRES ISED 1
RCHRES ROSED 2 * 0.20 -> RCHRES ISED 2
RCHRES ROSED 3 * 0.35 -> RCHRES ISED 3
   and
RCHRES OVOL 2 -> RCHRES IVOL
RCHRES ROSED 1  * 0.90 -> RCHRES ISED 1
RCHRES ROSED 2 * 0.80 -> RCHRES ISED 2
RCHRES ROSED 3 * 0.65 -> RCHRES ISED 3

Note that the fractions above are completely made up, but do need to sum
to 1.0 for each fraction.  They would=20
have to be estimated on a site-specific basis.

If something more complicated than constant fractions are necessary, you
could try some combination of GENER
and SPEC-ACTIONS to estimate the sediment split as a function of flow,
for example.  This could get complicated
quickly, so you want to be sure it's worth the effort to avoid the
default behavior.

I don't know if this idea would help you for your particular situation -
it's just a quick brainstorm.

Tom Jobes
St Johns River Water Management District
tjobes@sjrwmd.com
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Subject: [basinsinfo] sediment diversion option

Hello,

Is there a sediment diversion option or way for each grain size (clay,
silt,
sand and gravel) from the main channel to diversion channels in HSPF?

Thanks,=20

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From: "Ikenberry, Charles [DNR]" <Charles.Ikenberry@dnr.iowa.gov>
Subject: Environmental Specialist Senior (Watershed Improvement)

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JOB DESCRIPTION:  The Water Improvement Section of the Department's
Environmental Services Division has an opening for an Environmental
Specialist Senior.  Duties include:

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Functions as the TMDL Program Coordinator and lead worker, assists
supervisor by instructing employees, mentoring and training TMDL Program
staff, answering questions and distributing, balancing and checking
work; may make suggestions on selection, promotions and reassignments.
Provides overall day-to-day coordination for the department's TMDL
program including project distribution and development, data management,
public hearing coordination and submission of required documents.

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*   Develops and executes plans to continuously improve the quality
and timeliness of the work of the TMDL Program team members. Working
with the section supervisor, sets productivity and quality goals, and
monitors efforts to meet those targets. Distributes TMDL projects fairly
and in such a way that utilizes staff skills to the program's best
advantage.  The workload should also be assigned in such a way that it
will ensure all timelines are met.=20
*   Provides opportunity for staff collaboration to discuss complex
issues and ultimately offers alternatives and/or solutions for more
complex issues during TMDL development. Practices techniques that
facilitate a positive teamwork environment.
*   Works with other staff to implement the process of obtaining
adequate water quality data and information to support TMDL development
and implementation. Coordinates the development of the annual TMDL
monitoring plan to ensure appropriate data is collected in a timely
manner to support SI process and TMDL modeling needs.  Guides the TMDL
staff in the calculation of maximum pollutant loads and appropriate
targets for impaired waters.  Ensures consistency in all data collection
and modeling applications.
*   Organizes and coordinates stakeholder meetings and performs
related administrative tasks relative to public involvement in the TMDL
document development and completion process.  Works with staff to
determine the scope and number of public meetings.   Arranges for public
notification and scheduling of meetings.  Prepares response letters to
written public comments on draft TMDLs and coordinates with TMDL staff
to ensure relevant comments are incorporated into final TMDLs, as
appropriate. Ensures that all written comments and official responses
are attached as an appendix to the final TMDL.
*   Reviews and amends TMDL documents prepared by staff prior to
submittal to EPA to ensure that technical information used is clear and
concise and all required aspects of the TMDL document are included and
defensible, including proper use of the TMDL Template and Style Guide.
Manages the internal peer review process for all draft TMDLs.
Coordinates with EPA during the development and finalization of TMDLs
and submits final TMDL documents to EPA for approval.=20

*=09

Maintains and increases internal and external stakeholder support,
collaboration and commitment to the TMDL program. This includes but is
not limited to:

*   Strengthens the TMDL Program's outreach efforts and mentors TMDL
staff in using effective outreach strategies. Responds to media requests
regarding the TMDL Program and specific TMDL reports.
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targeted TMDLs to be completed, using a collaborative and inclusive
internal and external stakeholder process.
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encourages stakeholder involvement and ownership in TMDL development and
resultant watershed planning and implementation. Develops and maintains
positive working relationships with stakeholders.

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and subsequent local watershed plans. This includes but is not limited
to:

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implementation plans. =20
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Program staff, Lake Restoration Program staff, other appropriate DNR
staff, and staff from other federal, state and local agencies interested
in implementing EPA approved TMDL documents.  Coordinates development of
implementation plans for TMDL projects in consultation with other
department staff and stakeholder groups as identified in the TMDL
project plan.
*   Facilitates the development and implementation of locally-led
watershed planning processes, as needed. Watershed plans should be
developed for implementing EPA-approved TMDL documents in cases where
there is local stakeholder interest and commitment to pursue water
quality improvement plans.  ~DNRPOST~

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Selective Certification Environmental Health or Science (183) and Water
Resources (762). Understanding of GIS capability regarding digital
elevation models, land use coverages, and soil types is necessary.
Requires experience preparing TMDL documents, good analytical skills,
and a thorough knowledge and familiarity with EPA TMDL guidance and
requirements. Ability to describe complex technical processes in terms
understandable by the general public; ability to develop and maintain
effective working relationships with staff, other state and federal
agencies, agricultural and environmental interests, the regulated
public, industry professionals and local stakeholders; ability to lead
technical and non-technical groups of both internal staff and external
stakeholders; ability to use accepted procedures to measure progress
toward goals; ability to develop, read, comprehend laws, rules, policies
and position papers related to TMDLs, water quality assessments and
water quality standards; ability to use computers and database computer
software products for the purposes of data management and generating
reports, presentations, tables, and charts; ability to produce quality
work products in a timely manner; ability to effectively communicate,
both orally and in written work products; ability to write documents
that clearly communicate program ideas, goals and objectives; capacity
to adjust to change, work pressures or difficult situations without
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orientation and display high standards of ethical conduct. Position is a
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Education, Experience and Special Requirements:  Applicants must meet
the minimum requirements for an Environmental Specialist Senior based on
education, experience and special requirements, or an acceptable
combination thereof, as established by the Department of Administrative
Services.   Applicants must also qualify for DAS Selective
Certifications:  #183 - Environmental Health or Science AND #762 - Water
Resources.

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form for this position by the close of business on April 30th, 2008.
Application forms are available from the Iowa Department of
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<http://www.das.hre.iowa.gov/> , from any Workforce Development Center,
or at the DAS-HRE office in Des Moines.  Completed applications must be
submitted through the DAS web page or faxed to DAS at 515-281-7970.  You
must include the job title and job vacancy number on all applications.

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business references to DAS during the application process.

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B.   Email a copy of the materials to allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov
<mailto:allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov>  or send a hard copy of the requested
materials to:  Allen Bonini, Supervisor, Water Improvement Section, Iowa
Department of Natural Resources, Wallace Building, 502 East 9th Street,
Des Moines, IA, 50319.  The requested materials must be received within
48 hours (excluding weekends and State holidays) of the closing date.
Please be precise when outlining your experience as related to the
position and any selective(s) noted. Failure to follow these
instructions will disqualify you from consideration for this position.
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Duties =
include:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoBodyText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Functions as the TMDL =
Program
Coordinator and lead worker, assists supervisor by instructing =
employees,
mentoring and training TMDL Program staff, answering questions and
distributing, balancing and checking work; may make suggestions on =
selection,
promotions and reassignments.&nbsp; Provides overall day-to-day =
coordination for the
department&#8217;s TMDL program including project distribution and =
development,
data management, public hearing coordination and submission of required
documents.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<ul style=3D'margin-top:0in' type=3Dcircle>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l2 level1 lfo4'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Develops and executes plans to continuously =
improve the
     quality and timeliness of the work of the TMDL Program team =
members.
     Working with the section supervisor, sets productivity and quality =
goals,
     and monitors efforts to meet those targets. Distributes TMDL =
projects
     fairly and in such a way that utilizes staff skills to the =
program&#8217;s
     best advantage.&nbsp; The workload should also be assigned in such =
a way that
     it will ensure all timelines are met. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l2 level1 lfo4'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Provides opportunity for staff collaboration to =
discuss
     complex issues and ultimately offers alternatives and/or solutions =
for
     more complex issues during TMDL development. Practices techniques =
that
     facilitate a positive teamwork =
environment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l2 level1 lfo4'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Works with other staff to implement the process =
of obtaining
     adequate water quality data and information to support TMDL =
development
     and implementation. Coordinates the development of the annual TMDL
     monitoring plan to ensure appropriate data is collected in a timely =
manner
     to support SI process and TMDL modeling needs.&nbsp; Guides the =
TMDL staff in
     the calculation of maximum pollutant loads and appropriate targets =
for
     impaired waters.&nbsp; Ensures consistency in all data collection =
and modeling
     applications.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l2 level1 lfo4'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Organizes and coordinates stakeholder meetings =
and
     performs related administrative tasks relative to public =
involvement in
     the TMDL document development and completion process.&nbsp; Works =
with staff to
     determine the scope and number of public meetings.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Arranges for public
     notification and scheduling of meetings.&nbsp; Prepares response =
letters to
     written public comments on draft TMDLs and coordinates with TMDL =
staff to
     ensure relevant comments are incorporated into final TMDLs, as
     appropriate. Ensures that all written comments and official =
responses are
     attached as an appendix to the final =
TMDL.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify;mso-list:l2 level1 =
lfo4'><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Reviews
     and amends TMDL documents prepared by staff prior to submittal to =
EPA to
     ensure that technical information used is clear and concise and all
     required aspects of the TMDL document are included and defensible,
     including proper use of the TMDL Template and Style Guide. Manages =
the
     internal peer review process for all draft TMDLs. Coordinates with =
EPA
     during the development and finalization of TMDLs and submits final =
TMDL
     documents to EPA for approval. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>

<ul style=3D'margin-top:0in' type=3Dcircle>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify;mso-list:l2 level1 =
lfo4'><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></l=
i>
</ul>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify'><font size=3D2
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Maintains and
increases internal and external stakeholder support, collaboration and
commitment to the TMDL program. This includes but is not limited =
to:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<ul style=3D'margin-top:0in' type=3Dcircle>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Strengthens the TMDL Program&#8217;s outreach =
efforts
     and mentors TMDL staff in using effective outreach strategies. =
Responds to
     media requests regarding the TMDL Program and specific TMDL =
reports.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Annually updates and extends the 5-year priority =
list
     of targeted TMDLs to be completed, using a collaborative and =
inclusive
     internal and external stakeholder =
process.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3'><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Coordinates
     and leads TMDL outreach efforts in a way that encourages =
stakeholder
     involvement and ownership in TMDL development and resultant =
watershed
     planning and implementation. Develops and maintains positive =
working
     relationships with stakeholders.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>

<ul style=3D'margin-top:0in' type=3Dcircle>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3'><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></l=
i>
</ul>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify'><font size=3D2
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is =
responsible for
coordinating development of TMDL implementation plans and subsequent =
local
watershed plans. This includes but is not limited =
to:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<ul style=3D'margin-top:0in' type=3Dcircle>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l0 level1 lfo2'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Provides work direction for TMDL Program staff =
to
     develop TMDL implementation plans.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:4.0pt;text-align:justify;mso-list:
     l0 level1 lfo2'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
     font-family:Arial'>Coordinates with Watershed Improvement Section =
Nonpoint
     Source Program staff, Lake Restoration Program staff, other =
appropriate
     DNR staff, and staff from other federal, state and local agencies
     interested in implementing EPA approved TMDL documents.&nbsp; =
Coordinates
     development of implementation plans for TMDL projects in =
consultation with
     other department staff and stakeholder groups as identified in the =
TMDL
     project plan.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Facilitates
     the development and implementation of locally-led watershed =
planning
     processes, as needed. Watershed plans should be developed for =
implementing
     EPA-approved TMDL documents in cases where there is local =
stakeholder
     interest and commitment to pursue water quality improvement =
plans.&nbsp; </span></font>~DNRPOST~<font
     face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>ABILITIES =
AND
SKILLS:</span></font></b><font face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&nbsp; </span></font><font
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'><a =
name=3DText21></a>Requires ability
to meet requirements for DAS Selective Certification Environmental =
Health or
Science (183) and Water Resources (762). Understanding of GIS capability
regarding digital elevation models, land use coverages, and soil types =
is
necessary.&nbsp; Requires experience preparing TMDL documents, good =
analytical
skills, and a thorough knowledge and familiarity with EPA TMDL guidance =
and
requirements. Ability to describe complex technical processes in terms
understandable by the general public; ability to develop and maintain =
effective
working relationships with staff, other state and federal agencies,
agricultural and environmental interests, the regulated public, industry
professionals and local stakeholders; ability to lead technical and
non-technical groups of both internal staff and external stakeholders; =
ability
to use accepted procedures to measure progress toward goals; ability to
develop, read, comprehend laws, rules, policies and position papers =
related to
TMDLs, water quality assessments and water quality standards; ability to =
use
computers and database computer software products for the purposes of =
data
management and generating reports, presentations, tables, and charts; =
ability
to produce quality work products in a timely manner; ability to =
effectively
communicate, both orally and in written work products; ability to write
documents that clearly communicate program ideas, goals and objectives;
capacity to adjust to change, work pressures or difficult situations =
without
undue stress; must demonstrate initiative, a customer service and team =
orientation
and display high standards of ethical conduct. Position is a full-time =
position
and as such, requires regular attendance. Ability to travel with some =
overnight
stays.</span></font><font face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:.7pt;text-align:justify'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;text-transform:
uppercase;font-weight:bold'>Education, Experience and Special =
Requirements</span></font></b><b><font
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>:&nbsp; =
</span></font></b><font
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>Applicants must meet the =
minimum
requirements for an Environmental Specialist Senior based on education,
experience and special requirements, or an acceptable combination =
thereof, as
established by the Department of Administrative Services.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Applicants must
also qualify for DAS Selective Certifications:&nbsp; #183 &#8211; =
Environmental
Health or Science AND #762 &#8211; Water =
Resources.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:-1.8pt;text-align:justify'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>HOW TO APPLY:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:-1.8pt;text-align:justify'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:-1.8pt;text-align:justify'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>Step 1:&nbsp; </span></font></b><font face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:
Arial'>Interested applicants must submit a State of <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:State
 w:st=3D"on">Iowa</st1:State></st1:place> application form for this =
position by
the close of business on April 30<sup>th</sup>, 2008.&nbsp; Application =
forms are
available from the Iowa Department of Administrative Services&#8217; =
(DAS) web
page at <u><font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><a
href=3D"http://www.das.hre.iowa.gov/"><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman"'>www.das.hre.iowa.gov</span></font></a></span></font></u>,
from any <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Workforce</st1:PlaceName> =
<st1:PlaceName
w:st=3D"on">Development</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">Center</st1:PlaceType>,
or at the DAS-HRE office in <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Des Moines</st1:City></st1:place>.&nbsp;
Completed applications <u>must</u> be submitted through the DAS web page =
or
faxed to DAS at 515-281-7970.&nbsp; You must include the job title and =
job vacancy
number on all applications.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Step =
2:&nbsp; In
addition, in order to be considered for this position, =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<ol style=3D'margin-top:0in' start=3D1 type=3DA>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo1'><b><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;
     font-weight:bold'>You must <u>upload </u>a copy of your cover =
letter,
     resume and three business references to DAS during the application
     process.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></li>
</ol>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.25in;text-align:justify'><font size=3D2
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.25in;text-align:justify'><b><u><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>OR</span></font></u></b><b><font face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:
Arial;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><font face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<ol style=3D'margin-top:0in' start=3D2 type=3DA>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo1'><b><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;
     font-weight:bold'>Email a copy of the materials to <a
     href=3D"mailto:allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov"><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
     style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman"'>allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov</span></font></a>
     or send a hard copy of the requested materials to:&nbsp; Allen =
Bonini, Supervisor,
     Water Improvement Section, <st1:State w:st=3D"on">Iowa</st1:State>
     Department of Natural Resources, <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName
      w:st=3D"on">Wallace</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName =
w:st=3D"on">Building</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>,
     <st1:address w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street w:st=3D"on">502 East =
9<sup>th</sup>
       Street</st1:Street>, <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Des Moines</st1:City>, =
<st1:State
      w:st=3D"on">IA</st1:State>, <st1:PostalCode =
w:st=3D"on">50319</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>.
     &nbsp;<u>The requested materials must be received within 48 hours =
(excluding
     weekends and State holidays) of the closing date.</u> Please be =
precise
     when outlining your experience as related to the position and any
     selective(s) noted. Failure to follow these instructions will =
disqualify
     you from consideration for this position. For more information =
about this
     position, contact Allen Bonini at 515-281-5107 or <a
     href=3D"mailto:allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov"><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
     style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman"'>allen.bonini@dnr.iowa.gov</span></font></a></span></font></b><fon=
t
     face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-align:justify'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'margin-top:.25in;text-align:center'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>The State of <st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Iowa</st1:place></st1:State>
is an EEO/AA EMPLOYER<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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X-Message-Number: 13
X-lyris-Id: 168265
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:44:15 -0400
From: Thomas M Over <tmover@usgs.gov>
Subject: WinHSPF / PEST error

<FONT face=3D"Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=
=3D2><DIV>I am trying to use WinHSPF to set up a PEST control file and auxi=
liary files. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I select PEST from the "Functions"=
 drop-down menu, enter the observed DSN, select the simulated DSN, and push=
 "Run PEST". It starts to work and indeed writes out several of the files i=
ncluding the new UCI with the "~'s" in it but then stops with the message:<=
/DIV><DIV>"Object variable or With block variable not set".</DIV><DIV>At th=
is time, the BASINS PEST progress window says:</DIV><DIV>"Running TSPROC to=
 set up PEST".</DIV><DIV>(The tsproc.dat file is not written out.)</DIV><DI=
V>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Any idea what&nbsp;could be&nbsp;causing this error?</DI=
V><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks a lot,</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Tom Over<B=
R>Hydrologist&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>U.S.&nbsp;Geolog=
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;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV></=
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X-lyris-Id: 168294
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:33:31 +0200
From: Emma Radahl <emma_1982@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF

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Thank you Tom.
=20
What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I op=
ened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I could only see info=
rmation concerning the RCHRES:s.
=20
/Emma
=20

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPFDate: Fri, 4 =
Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400From: tjobes@sjrwmd.comTo: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,
=20
The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are summari=
zed in the =93print=94 (text) output file. =20
There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to an=
y other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).
=20
The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) defines all of th=
e entries in those tables, if you want to=20
understand what they do.
=20

Tom Jobes
St Johns River Water Management District
tjobes@sjrwmd.com
W: 386-328-4463
C: 386-937-6341
=20

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 20=
08 1:27 PMTo: Private list for BASINS usersSubject: [basinsinfo] Parameters=
 in GENERAL tables in HSPF
=20
I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PE=
RLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results a=
t all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value an=
d the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND =
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If you see only RCHRES data, then check the PRINT-INFO tables to see if
the output for the other operations are turned

off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all active sections).

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Thank you Tom.
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What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I
opened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I could only see
information concerning the RCHRES:s.
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/Emma

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Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400
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To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,

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The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are
summarized in the "print" (text) output file. =20

There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to
any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).

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the entries in those tables, if you want to=20

understand what they do.

=20

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

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C: 386-937-6341

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I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for
PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated
results at all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND
parameter value and the parameter value describing how often output is
written in the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES modules.
However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and
RCHRES to the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Emma,</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes, that&#8217;s the most common extension, though =
sometimes people
use other extensions, like a single letter followed </span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>by the unit number.</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you see only RCHRES data, then check the PRINT-INFO =
tables to
see if the output for the other operations are turned</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all active =
sections).</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>Tom
Jobes</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>St
Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>tjobes@sjrwmd.com</=
span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>W:
386-328-4463</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>C:
386-937-6341</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thank
you Tom.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I =
opened
the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I could only see =
information
concerning the RCHRES:s.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
/Emma<br>
<br>
&nbsp;</span></p>

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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters =
in
GENERAL tables in HSPF<br>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400<br>
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To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov</span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the =
results
are summarized in the &#8220;print&#8221; (text) output file.&nbsp; =
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

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results
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defines
all of the entries in those tables, if you want to </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

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values
input in the GENERAL tables for PERLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have =
any
effect on the simulated results at all? I ask because I had by mistake =
changed
the PYREND parameter value and the parameter value describing how often =
output
is written in&nbsp;the PERLND module, but not in the IMPLND and RCHRES =
modules.<br>
However, when I realized this and changed the values in IMPLND and =
RCHRES to
the same value as that for PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. =
<br>
If they do not affect the result, what do these parameters actually do? =
(I have
tried reading the HELP about them, but it didn't clear things up).<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Sincerely/Emma Radahl</span></p>

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From: Emma Radahl <emma_1982@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF

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Tom, once again thank you.
=20
I had checked the PRINT-INFO table and turned the sections I wanted to look=
 at on, but I cannot seem to find them in the out-file. I'll try it again a=
nd make sure I haven't overlooked something.
Thanks!
Emma

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPFDate: Mon, 7 =
Apr 2008 14:41:19 -0400From: tjobes@sjrwmd.comTo: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,
=20
Yes, that=92s the most common extension, though sometimes people use other =
extensions, like a single letter followed=20
by the unit number.
=20
If you see only RCHRES data, then check the PRINT-INFO tables to see if the=
 output for the other operations are turned
off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all active sections).
=20

Tom Jobes
St Johns River Water Management District
tjobes@sjrwmd.com
W: 386-328-4463
C: 386-937-6341
=20

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 20=
08 2:34 PMTo: Private list for BASINS usersSubject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parame=
ters in GENERAL tables in HSPF
=20
Thank you Tom. What output file are these summaries written to? Is it the *=
.out-file? I opened the *.out-file created for my project, but in it I coul=
d only see information concerning the RCHRES:s. /Emma=20

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL tables in HSPFDate: Fri, 4 =
Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400From: tjobes@sjrwmd.comTo: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,
=20
The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affects only how the results are summari=
zed in the =93print=94 (text) output file. =20
There will be no difference in the simulation, nor in results written to an=
y other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).
=20
The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn in the Help menu) defines all of th=
e entries in those tables, if you want to=20
understand what they do.
=20

Tom Jobes
St Johns River Water Management District
tjobes@sjrwmd.com
W: 386-328-4463
C: 386-937-6341
=20

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 20=
08 1:27 PMTo: Private list for BASINS usersSubject: [basinsinfo] Parameters=
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=20
I have a question about HSPF; the values input in the GENERAL tables for PE=
RLND, IMPLND and RCHRES, do they have any effect on the simulated results a=
t all? I ask because I had by mistake changed the PYREND parameter value an=
d the parameter value describing how often output is written in the PERLND =
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his and changed the values in IMPLND and RCHRES to the same value as that f=
or PERLND, I got the same flow result anyway. If they do not affect the res=
ult, what do these parameters actually do? (I have tried reading the HELP a=
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<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
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<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Yes, that=92s the most common extension, =
though sometimes people use other extensions, like a single letter followed=
 </SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">by the unit number.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If you see only RCHRES data, then check t=
he PRINT-INFO tables to see if the output for the other operations are turn=
ed</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">off (i.e. the print flag is 6 for all act=
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<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
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<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #244236; FONT-FAMILY: 'Cambri=
a','serif'">Tom Jobes</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #244236; FONT-FAMILY: 'Cambri=
a','serif'">St Johns River Water Management District</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #244236; FONT-FAMILY: 'Cambri=
a','serif'">tjobes@sjrwmd.com</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #244236; FONT-FAMILY: 'Cambri=
a','serif'">W: 386-328-4463</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #244236; FONT-FAMILY: 'Cambri=
a','serif'">C: 386-937-6341</SPAN></P></DIV>
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MILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] <B=
R><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 07, 2008 2:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Private list fo=
r BASINS users<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [basinsinfo] Parameters in GENERAL ta=
bles in HSPF</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahom=
a','sans-serif'">Thank you Tom.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>What output file are these sum=
maries written to? Is it the *.out-file? I opened the *.out-file created fo=
r my project, but in it I could only see information concerning the RCHRES:=
s.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>/Emma<BR><BR>&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
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rameters in GENERAL tables in HSPF<BR>Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:09 -0400<=
BR>From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com<BR>To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov</SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
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<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
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<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The PYREND parameter in PRINT-INFO affect=
s only how the results are summarized in the =93print=94 (text) output file=
.&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-=
serif'"></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">There will be no difference in the simula=
tion, nor in results written to any other output (e.g. WDM, PLTGEN, HBN).</=
SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></=
SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10=
pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The Manual (easiest to access in GenScn i=
n the Help menu) defines all of the entries in those tables, if you want to=
 </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"=
></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DEC_MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FON=
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e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P>
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Date: Tue,  8 Apr 2008 09:26:36 -0000
From: "Mery Apple" <mery@hawaii.edu>
Subject: HSPEXP Crash

I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties.  Everytime I start 
entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to type 
anything.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone have any suggestions 
on how to avoid this?  

Thank you,
Mery Apple 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
Graduate Research Assistant 
University of Hawai'i at Manoa 
Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 
1910 East-West Road 
Sherman Lab, Room 241 
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 
Email: mery@hawaii.edu 
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:27:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: plapal1@umbc.edu
Subject: Re: WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM

When you say that the file unit number for a WDM within the FILES block of
the UCI can be arbitrary so long as it does not match a number already in
use - does that mean that I can replace the value with any I choose
provided that the number doesnt appear anywhere else in the uci?

In reference to being unable to open a .wdm file in WDMUtil: I checked the
security properties of the pat.wdm file and no permissions are denied as
far as "Full Control, Modify, Read, Write" etc goes. Does my not being
able to open the file in WDMUtil ["The selected file (path...) is not a
valid WDM file and may not be opened."] automatically mean then that the
.wdm is corrupt? If so - can I use the accompanying pat_wdm.txt notepad
file I have.. which has what I assume is all of the code from the corrupt
WDM file, to create a new .WDM?

In reference to UN# / EXT SOURCES: When I open my .uci in WinHSPF (with
the WDM line commented out, which is the only way it will open right now),
several errors indicate that several VOLNO or wdm references are missing.
There are about six of these missing numbers. Does each correspond do a
different .wdm file or do the numbers just indicate that different
constituents within a single WDM are being used? I assume it is the latter
since only one WDM file is included in the FILES block. Here is an example
line of code within the EXTSOURCES block for a VOLNO that HSPF has been
unable to find:

<Name>   # <Name> # tem strg<-factor->strg <Name>   #   #        <Name> #
# ***
WDM    333 HPRC  10 ENGLZERO          SAME RCHRES  10     EXTNL  PREC

Thanks again,
- Peter

> The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and output
> for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run.  The file unit number
> for
> the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not
> conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit number.
> If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run.  If it
> provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of the
> uci file) you will need this file.  If it is only storing output (i.e.,
> referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if you
> comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm, along
> with
> the FILES block reference.
> As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is
> check
> that it is not write protected.  This sometimes happens when a file is
> stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will definitely
> prevent the file from opening successfully.  The wdm should open in
> WDMUtil
> entirely independent of any .uci file.  Another, less pleasant
> possibility,
> is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed...
> Jon Butcher
> Tetra Tech
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <plapal1@umbc.edu>
> To: "Private list for BASINS users" <basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM
> Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error - UN#
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco
>> area
>> watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am an
>> undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have
>> the
>> .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the sections
>> of
>> the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one
>> pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file.
>>
>> When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an
>> error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan
>> filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm
>> file
>> referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as opposed
>> to
>> the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master containing
>> data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of code
>> to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking
>> that
>> it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the UN#
>> unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the
>> correct
>> value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to
>> comment
>> out the WDM line in the FILES block.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the
>> code?
>>
>> Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its accompanying
>> text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil gave
>> me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run' a
>> WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first?
>>
>> Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input.
>>
>> - Peter
>>
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:03:48 -0400
From: "Diz, Harry R" <DIZ001@gannon.edu>
Subject: using the HSPF Bacterial Tool

Dear Basins List:

Do any of you have experience using the Bacterial Indicator Tool
developed in conjunction with HSPF? =20

We are trying to model the release and transport of coliform bacteria in
several small watersheds along the shoreline of Lake Erie, and are
having trouble.  We can get WinHSPF to run without the bacterial data we
generated using the bacterial tool (which is a spreadsheet used to
develop loadings), but get error messages when we insert the data from
the spreadsheet.

A response from anyone with experience modeling non-point source
coliform bacteria would be appreciated.

Rick Diz, Ph.D., PE, =20
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Subject: HSPEXP Crash
From: "Mery Apple" <mery@hawaii.edu>
Date: Tue,  8 Apr 2008 09:26:36 -0000
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I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties.  Everytime
I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to
type anything.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone have any
suggestions on how to avoid this? =20

Thank you,
Mery Apple=20
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University of Hawai'i at Manoa=20
Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM)=20
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Sherman Lab, Room 241=20
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Subject: Re: HSPEXP Crash

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Hi
   
  I have the same problem before. Kate Flynn(USGS) have gaven me some 
suggestions. I tried and found that use a earlier version of Window(such as 
2000) without any Anti-virsus software may be the way.
   
  Zili
  4/9/2008
   
   
  As your problem appears to be random, it is difficult to identify.  I have 
not encountered this problem on my Windows XP.  I occasionally get reports of 
this kind of problem but never get any feedback on what, if anything, solved 
the problem.  Sometimes it is hard to identify the solution because multiple 
things have been tried.  The best I can offer is . . . 

    
   Recent Microsoft "upgrades" have slightly changed how the DOS window works 
on my machine.  Rather annoying, but what can we do?  If you are plotting, once 
the screen has gone to full size, don't try to make it small again.
  
   When the screen freezes, how are you trying to interact with the program?  
There used to be a problem where one of the terminal emulators didn't always 
like non-printing keys such as function and arrow keys.  Instead of typing the 
function keys, try typing a semi colon (;) and then the first letter of the 
command.  For example to Accept, type ;A and to get help type ;h (case does not 
matter.)  Instead of tabbing or using the up and down arrows to move around in 
a menu, just type the first letter of the menu option (if it is not unique, 
type the first 2).  On a form, use the enter key to move from field to field 
instead of arrows and tabs.  not use the Tab, Esc, and Delete keys.
    
   C:\WINDOWS\system32\config.nt

Most of the file will probably be comments (REM).  At the bottom of the file, 
you should see something similar to: 

REM 
dos=high, umb 
device=%SystemRoot%\system32\himem.sys 
files=40 
REM Line immediately below added by ANNIE 4.1 
device=C:\WINDOWS\system32\ansi.sys 
    
   Interfering / competing application - It may be that there is another 
application running that is somehow interfering with your keystrokes.  Perhaps 
a virus scanner, some kind of computer security software, an accessibility 
tool, or a monitoring tool.  You may not even be aware that the program is on 
your machine or active.

You might look at Accessibility Options under Start/Settings/Control Panel to 
see if anything is set. Also, on my XP, under 
Start/Program/Accessories/Accessibility, there is an accessibility wizard that 
appears to set some other things. 

In the past, there have occasionally been problems with some of the 
firewall-type of software, but I have not seen this in quite some time. 

This might also be software that is watching or recording your keystrokes. 
    
   I googled "dos program freezes" and found:

          http://www.nocrash.com/ncbbs/msgs/3323.shtml 

This suggests a problem with an application called SilentTech.  Looks like you 
might want to check for two files:  winio.sys and htpatch.exe.  These are not 
on my machine. 

          http://aurora.shashki.com/problem_en.html 

This site lists a Speedfan application which sounds similar to SilentTech.   It 
also lists 52kControl, Motherboard Monitor, EasyTune, Smart Guardian 
    
   Keyboard or mouse problems

Check that your keyboard is working correctly.  Find Keyboard Properties under 
Start/Settings/Control Panel;  under the Hardware tab, look at Troubleshoot. 

Some people have trouble with trying to use the mouse when running hspexp and 
similar programs.  Once you have launched the program, try moving the mouse out 
of easy reach. 

Kate Flynn 
U.S. Geological Survey 
Office of Surface Water 

Mery Apple <mery@hawaii.edu> wrote:  I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having 
some difficulties. Everytime I start entering in data the program will freeze 
up and I am not able to type anything. Has anyone else had this problem? Does 
anyone have any suggestions on how to avoid this? 

Thank you,
Mery Apple 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
Graduate Research Assistant 
University of Hawai'i at Manoa 
Dept. of Natural Resources & Environmental Management (NREM) 
1910 East-West Road 
Sherman Lab, Room 241 
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 
Email: mery@hawaii.edu 
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<div>Hi</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I have the same problem before. Kate 
Flynn(USGS) have gaven me some suggestions.&nbsp;I tried&nbsp;and found 
that&nbsp;use a earlier version of Window(such as 2000) without any Anti-virsus 
software&nbsp;may be the way.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Zili</div>  
<div>4/9/2008</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>As your problem 
appears to be random, it is difficult to identify. &nbsp;I have not encountered 
this problem on my <SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1207757687_0 style="CURSOR: 
hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed">Windows XP</SPAN>. &nbsp;I 
occasionally get reports of this kind of problem but never get any feedback on 
what, if anything, solved the problem. &nbsp;Sometimes it is hard to identify 
the solution because multiple things have been tried. &nbsp;The best I can 
offer is . . . <BR></div>  <UL>  <LI><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Recent 
Microsoft "upgrades" have slightly changed how the DOS window works on my
 machine. &nbsp;Rather annoying, but what can we do? &nbsp;If you are plotting, 
once the screen has gone to full size, don't try to make it small 
again.<BR></FONT>  <LI><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>When the screen freezes, 
how are you trying to interact with the program? &nbsp;There used to be a 
problem where one of the terminal emulators didn't always like non-printing 
keys such as function and arrow keys. &nbsp;Instead of typing the function 
keys, try typing a semi colon (;) and then the first letter of the command. 
&nbsp;For example to Accept, type ;A and to get help type ;h (case does not 
matter.) &nbsp;Instead of tabbing or using the up and down arrows to move 
around in a menu, just type the first letter of the menu option (if it is not 
unique, type the first 2). &nbsp;On a form, use the enter key to move from 
field to field instead of arrows and tabs. &nbsp;not use the Tab, Esc, and 
Delete keys.</FONT></LI></UL>  <UL>  <LI><FONT face=sans-serif
 size=2>C:\WINDOWS\system32\config.nt</FONT></LI></UL><BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
size=2>Most of the file will probably be comments (REM). &nbsp;At the bottom of 
the file, you should see something similar to:</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT 
face=sans-serif size=2>REM</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>dos=high, 
umb</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
size=2>device=%SystemRoot%\system32\himem.sys</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
size=2>files=40</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>REM Line immediately 
below added by ANNIE 4.1</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
size=2>device=C:\WINDOWS\system32\ansi.sys</FONT> <BR>  <UL>  <LI><FONT 
face=sans-serif size=2>Interfering / competing application - It may be that 
there is another application running that is somehow interfering with your 
keystrokes. &nbsp;Perhaps a virus scanner, some kind of computer security 
software, an accessibility tool, or a monitoring tool. &nbsp;You may not even 
be aware that the program is on your machine or
 active.<BR></FONT></LI></UL><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>You might look at 
Accessibility Options under Start/Settings/Control Panel to see if anything is 
set. Also, on my XP, under Start/Program/Accessories/Accessibility, there is an 
accessibility wizard that appears to set some other things.</FONT> 
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>In the past, there have occasionally been 
problems with some of the firewall-type of software, but I have not seen this 
in quite some time.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>This might also 
be software that is watching or recording your keystrokes.</FONT> <BR>  <UL>  
<LI><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I googled "dos program freezes" and 
found:</FONT></LI></UL><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; <A href="http://www.nocrash.com/ncbbs/msgs/3323.shtml" 
target=_blank><SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1207757687_1><FONT 
color=#003399>http://www.nocrash.com/ncbbs/msgs/3323.shtml</FONT></SPAN></A></FO
NT>
 <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>This suggests a problem with an 
application called SilentTech. &nbsp;Looks like you might want to check for two 
files: &nbsp;winio.sys and htpatch.exe. &nbsp;These are not on my 
machine.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; <A href="http://aurora.shashki.com/problem_en.html" 
target=_blank><SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1207757687_2><FONT 
color=#003399>http://aurora.shashki.com/problem_en.html</FONT></SPAN></A></FONT>
 <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>This site lists a Speedfan application 
which sounds similar to SilentTech. &nbsp; It also lists 52kControl, 
Motherboard Monitor, EasyTune, Smart Guardian</FONT> <BR>  <UL>  <LI><FONT 
face=sans-serif size=2>Keyboard or mouse problems</FONT></LI></UL><BR><FONT 
face=sans-serif size=2>Check that your keyboard is working correctly. 
&nbsp;Find Keyboard Properties under Start/Settings/Control Panel; &nbsp;under 
the Hardware tab, look at
 Troubleshoot.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Some people have 
trouble with trying to use the mouse when running hspexp and similar programs. 
&nbsp;Once you have launched the program, try moving the mouse out of easy 
reach.</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Kate Flynn</FONT> 
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<BR><BR><BR><B><I>Mery Apple &lt;mery@hawaii.edu&gt;</I></B> wrote:  
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difficulties. Everytime I start entering in data the program will freeze up and 
I am not able to type anything. Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone 
have any suggestions on how
 to avoid this? <BR><BR>Thank you,<BR>Mery Apple 
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Environmental Management (NREM) <BR>1910 East-West Road <BR>Sherman Lab, Room 
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From: "Anurag Mishra" <anmishra@vt.edu>
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I have never had any luck with HSPEXP. I made a crude MS Excel Worksheet
with Macros to do all the HSPEXP calculations. It can do all the
calculations for you but cannot suggest you anything.

I would be happy to share it.

--Anurag
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Mery Apple <mery@hawaii.edu> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties.  Everytime
> > I start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to
> > type anything.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone have any
> > suggestions on how to avoid this?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Mery Apple
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I have never had any luck with HSPEXP. I made a crude MS Excel Worksheet with 
Macros to do all the HSPEXP calculations. It can do all the calculations for 
you but cannot suggest you anything.<br><br>I would be happy to share it.<br>
<br>--Anurag<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" 
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Mery Apple &lt;<a href="mailto:mery@hawaii.edu" 
target="_blank">mery@hawaii.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote 
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0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

I am trying to use HSPEXP and I am having some difficulties. &nbsp;Everytime I 
start entering in data the program will freeze up and I am not able to type 
anything. &nbsp;Has anyone else had this problem? &nbsp;Does anyone have any 
suggestions on how to avoid this?<br>

<br>
Thank you,<br>
Mery Apple<br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
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University of Hawai&#39;i at Manoa<br>
Dept. of Natural Resources &amp; Environmental Management (NREM)<br>
1910 East-West Road<br>
Sherman Lab, Room 241<br>
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:mery@hawaii.edu" target="_blank">mery@hawaii.edu</a><br>
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:22:14 -0600
From: "Daniel Ames" <amesdani@isu.edu>
Subject: BASINS/MapWindow Plug-in Writing Contest...

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Dear BASINS List,

The Department of Geosciences here at Idaho State University is very excited
about the future of BASINS as it has integrated with the MapWindow GIS
project and as such is sponsoring a MapWindow GIS Plug-in Writing Contest
for you programmers!  Because it uses the same core components as the
desktop MapWindow GIS application, all MapWindow plugins are fully
compatible with BASINS.

We're looking for creative useful plug-ins that can be included with the
core BASINS installer and/or the core MapWindow installer.

The prize is a brand new 8 GB iPod Nano. You can read the full contest
description here:
http://www.mapwindow.org/wiki/index.php/MapWindow_Plug-in_Writing_Contest

Please forward this note to anyone you know who may be already working on a
BASINS/MapWindow plugin and/or who you think might want to give it a shot!
There are lots of examples and instructions linked to the contest web site
to help you get started! All it takes is a little .NET skill and a good
idea...

Thanks,

Dan

-- 
Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE
Geospatial Software Lab
Department of Geosciences
Idaho State University - Idaho Falls
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Dear BASINS List,<br><br>The Department of Geosciences here at Idaho State 
University is very excited about the future of BASINS as it has integrated with 
the MapWindow GIS project and as such is sponsoring a MapWindow GIS Plug-in 
Writing Contest for you programmers!&nbsp; Because it uses the same core 
components as the desktop MapWindow GIS application, all MapWindow plugins are 
fully compatible with BASINS.&nbsp; <br>
<br>We&#39;re looking for creative useful plug-ins that can be included with 
the core BASINS installer and/or the core MapWindow installer.&nbsp; 
<br><br>The prize is a brand new 8 GB iPod Nano. You can read the full contest 
description here: <a 
href="http://www.mapwindow.org/wiki/index.php/MapWindow_Plug-in_Writing_Contest
">http://www.mapwindow.org/wiki/index.php/MapWindow_Plug-in_Writing_Contest</a><
br>
<br>Please forward this note to anyone you know who may be already working on a 
BASINS/MapWindow plugin and/or who you think might want to give it a shot! 
There are lots of examples and instructions linked to the contest web site to 
help you get started! All it takes is a little .NET skill and a good idea...<br>
<br>Thanks,<br><br>Dan<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Daniel P. Ames, PhD, 
PE<br>Geospatial Software Lab<br>Department of Geosciences<br>Idaho State 
University - Idaho Falls<br><a href="mailto:amesdani@isu.edu
">amesdani@isu.edu</a><br>
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:56:23 -0400
From: "Tom Jobes" <tjobes@sjrwmd.com>
Subject: RE: WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM

Peter,

Yes, the unit number in the FILES block can technically be anything from
1-99, that's not
Being used for anything else in the FILES block.  (All unit numbers
elsewhere should refer
to one of the FILES block entries.)

Don't confuse the unit number with WDM dataset numbers.  VOLNO refers to
the dataset
numbers.  It sounds like you're missing some datasets in your WDM file -
all of the references
in the EXT SOURCES or EXT TARGETS must exist and match the information
in the WDM.

If this doesn't work, then post an example of your error message and
someone will tell you what
it might mean in more detail.

In terms of being unable to open a WDM file in WdmUtil, the most common
cause is a pathname
that is too long.  Make sure that the full path, including the drive
letter at the beginning and the=20
actual filename at the end, fits into 64 characters.

Tom Jobes
St Johns River Water Management District
tjobes@sjrwmd.com
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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] WDM Errors - UN#, recreating a corrupt WDM

When you say that the file unit number for a WDM within the FILES block
of
the UCI can be arbitrary so long as it does not match a number already
in
use - does that mean that I can replace the value with any I choose
provided that the number doesnt appear anywhere else in the uci?

In reference to being unable to open a .wdm file in WDMUtil: I checked
the
security properties of the pat.wdm file and no permissions are denied as
far as "Full Control, Modify, Read, Write" etc goes. Does my not being
able to open the file in WDMUtil ["The selected file (path...) is not a
valid WDM file and may not be opened."] automatically mean then that the
.wdm is corrupt? If so - can I use the accompanying pat_wdm.txt notepad
file I have.. which has what I assume is all of the code from the
corrupt
WDM file, to create a new .WDM?

In reference to UN# / EXT SOURCES: When I open my .uci in WinHSPF (with
the WDM line commented out, which is the only way it will open right
now),
several errors indicate that several VOLNO or wdm references are
missing.
There are about six of these missing numbers. Does each correspond do a
different .wdm file or do the numbers just indicate that different
constituents within a single WDM are being used? I assume it is the
latter
since only one WDM file is included in the FILES block. Here is an
example
line of code within the EXTSOURCES block for a VOLNO that HSPF has been
unable to find:

<Name>   # <Name> # tem strg<-factor->strg <Name>   #   #        <Name>
#
# ***
WDM    333 HPRC  10 ENGLZERO          SAME RCHRES  10     EXTNL  PREC

Thanks again,
- Peter

> The wdm file is a binary data storage file that can store input and
output
> for HSPF - not an executable file that can be run.  The file unit
number
> for
> the wdm must be assigned, but can be arbitrary as long as it does not
> conflict with another file unit number or a FORTRAN-reserved unit
number.
> If you are missing a wdm file for your model it will not run.  If it
> provides necessary input (i.e., referenced in the EXT SOURCES block of
the
> uci file) you will need this file.  If it is only storing output
(i.e.,
> referenced only in the EXT TARGETS block) you can run without it if
you
> comment out or remove all the attempts to write data to that wdm,
along
> with
> the FILES block reference.
> As to why you cannot open pat.wdm in WDMUtil the first thing to do is
> check
> that it is not write protected.  This sometimes happens when a file is
> stored on CD then transferred back to your computer, and will
definitely
> prevent the file from opening successfully.  The wdm should open in
> WDMUtil
> entirely independent of any .uci file.  Another, less pleasant
> possibility,
> is that the wdm file is corrupted and will need to be reconstructed...
> Jon Butcher
> Tetra Tech
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <plapal1@umbc.edu>
> To: "Private list for BASINS users" <basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:38 PM
> Subject: [basinsinfo] Recreating a 2004 HSPF model run - WDM Error -
UN#
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am working on reconstituting an old HSPF run modeling the Patapsco
>> area
>> watershed, and am specifically interested in the Gwynns Falls. I am
an
>> undergraduate trying to figure these things out piece by piece.I have
>> the
>> .inp (renamed as .uci files for newer HSPF) for several of the
sections
>> of
>> the Patapsco watershed, including the Gwynns Falls. I also have one
>> pat.wdm file and one pat_wdm.txt file.
>>
>> When opening the .uci for the Gwynns Falls within HSPF, I received an
>> error stating that it could not open a .wdm file in the prescan
>> filesblock, because of an invalid procedure or argument call. The wdm
>> file
>> referenced in the code seems to be specific to my watershed, as
opposed
>> to
>> the one pat.wdm file I have - which I assumed to be a master
containing
>> data for the entire patapsco watershed. I tried editing the line of
code
>> to point HSPF to the one wdm I have. This did not work. I am thinking
>> that
>> it is because I did not edit the UN# (file unit number). I left the
UN#
>> unchanged because I have no idea what the number means or what the
>> correct
>> value should be. The only way I've got HSPF to open the .uci is to
>> comment
>> out the WDM line in the FILES block.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to find this number so I can changing it in the
>> code?
>>
>> Also - I am able to view the data in my general wdm via its
accompanying
>> text file. However, I have no way to 'run' the .wdm itself. WDMUtil
gave
>> me an error calling the file invalid. What is the basic way to 'run'
a
>> WDM? Is a working .uci in WinHSPF necessary first?
>>
>> Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any input.
>>
>> - Peter
>>
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:42:16 -0400
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Subject: RE: HSPEXP Crash

One more tip that may not have been offered yet -- Right-click on the =
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Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:27 AM
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Subject: [basinsinfo] HSPEXP Crash

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:14:37 +0200
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ut since it is something that is of importance to me.
=20
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om people who should know, which confuses me to no end.
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:34:44 -0000
From: "Mery Apple" <mery@hawaii.edu>
Subject: RE: HSPEXP Crash

Paul,
 
Thanks so much!  That was the issue making the program freeze up.
 
Mery

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Emma,

=20

I believe the confusion may be between the terms "open source" and
"public domain".  I believe all three models you list are

public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including
having access to the source code.  "Open source" implies more=20

than that - that the community of users contribute to the software
development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the source

for these models for their own use, but those changes generally do not
contribute back to the official versions, unless specific

arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the code.
Therefore I would not consider them "open source" models.

=20

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St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

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Hello,
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Emma Radahl

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source&#8221; and &#8220;public domain&#8221;.&nbsp; I believe all three =
models
you list are</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free,
including having access to the source code.&nbsp; &#8220;Open =
source&#8221;
implies more </span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>than that &#8211; that the community of users contribute =
to the software
development effort.&nbsp; Anyone can freely modify the source</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>for these models for their own use, but those changes =
generally
do not contribute back to the official versions, unless =
specific</span></p>

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source&#8221;
models.</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Jobes</span></p>

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Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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386-328-4463</span></p>

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386-937-6341</span></p>

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[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] <br>
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&nbsp;<br>
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and =
whether
or not they are &quot;open source&quot;, so I will need to get this
straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible =
to use
with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this =
from
people who should know, which confuses me to no end.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Emma Radahl</span></p>

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From: "Daniel Ames" <amesdani@isu.edu>
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To expand on Tom's answer, "public domain" specifically indicates that ther=
e
is no copyright holder. Hence anyone can do anything with any part of it.
"Open source" indicates that the software is licensed under a specific
license (MapWindow uses the Mozilla Public License) which lists the
copyright holder and any restrictions on use of the code. MPL allows one to
use the code for any purpose, commercial or otherwise with the constraint
that if you modify the code you share it back with the community.  Hope tha=
t
helps. - Dan

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Tom Jobes <tjobes@sjrwmd.com> wrote:

>  Emma,
>
>
>
> I believe the confusion may be between the terms "open source" and "publi=
c
> domain".  I believe all three models you list are
>
> public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including havin=
g
> access to the source code.  "Open source" implies more
>
> than that =96 that the community of users contribute to the software
> development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the source
>
> for these models for their own use, but those changes generally do not
> contribute back to the official versions, unless specific
>
> arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the code.
> Therefore I would not consider them "open source" models.
>
>
>
> Tom Jobes
>
> St Johns River Water Management District
>
> tjobes@sjrwmd.com
>
> W: 386-328-4463
>
> C: 386-937-6341
>
>
>
> *From:* Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM
> *To:* Private list for BASINS users
> *Subject:* [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and
> whether or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this
> straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.
>
> Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to
> use with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this
> from people who should know, which confuses me to no end.
>
> Sincerely,
> Emma Radahl
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To expand on Tom&#39;s answer, &quot;public domain&quot; specifically indic=
ates that there is no copyright holder. Hence anyone can do anything with a=
ny part of it. &quot;Open source&quot; indicates that the software is licen=
sed under a specific license (MapWindow uses the Mozilla Public License) wh=
ich lists the copyright holder and any restrictions on use of the code. MPL=
 allows one to use the code for any purpose, commercial or otherwise with t=
he constraint that if you modify the code you share it back with the commun=
ity.&nbsp; Hope that helps. - Dan<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Tom Jobes &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjobes@sjrwmd.com">tjobes@sjrwmd.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class=3D"Wj3C7c">

<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">

<div>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Emma,</span></=
p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><=
/p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I believe the =
confusion may be between the terms "open
source" and "public domain".&nbsp; I believe all three models
you list are</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">public domain,=
 meaning that anyone can use them for free,
including having access to the source code.&nbsp; "Open source"
implies more </span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">than that =96 =
that the community of users contribute to the software
development effort.&nbsp; Anyone can freely modify the source</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">for these mode=
ls for their own use, but those changes generally
do not contribute back to the official versions, unless specific</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">arrangements a=
re made with the maintainers/controllers of the
code.&nbsp; Therefore I would not consider them "open source"
models.</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><=
/p>

<div>

<p><span style=3D"color: rgb(36, 66, 54);">Tom
Jobes</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"color: rgb(36, 66, 54);">St
Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"color: rgb(36, 66, 54);"><a href=3D"mailto:tjobes@sjrwmd.=
com" target=3D"_blank">tjobes@sjrwmd.com</a></span></p>

<p><span style=3D"color: rgb(36, 66, 54);">W:
386-328-4463</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"color: rgb(36, 66, 54);">C:
386-937-6341</span></p>

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<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><=
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<p><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size: 10pt;"> Emma Radahl
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">emma_198=
2@hotmail.com</a>] <br>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">Hello,<b=
r>
&nbsp;<br>
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and wheth=
er
or not they are &quot;open source&quot;, so I will need to get this
straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to u=
se
with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from
people who should know, which confuses me to no end.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Emma Radahl</span></p>

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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:52:53 -0400
From: "Chin, David A." <dchin@miami.edu>
Subject: BASINS Met WDM Data Update

Dear all:

The Met Data downloaded within BASINS 4 covers 1970 - 1996 (at least for Ge=
orgia) . These seem a bit old, are there any updated public Met WDM files t=
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Subject: Single Sewer systems in HSPF?

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First of all, thanks to the people who helped me in sorting out the public =
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read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that=20
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are=20
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Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?

I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large =
source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on h=
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s it something that's not dealt with in the model?

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Hello,

I was just wondering if I could double check one thing about the HSPF model=
. All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration etc), they are =
applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After which each PE=
RLND and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which leads to separate =
runoff values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are then added to give the=
 total runoff value to a RCHRES, together with inflow from upstream reaches=
?

(I am comparing the HSPF model with a somewhat less spatially distributed m=
odel, and I just want to make sure I get the distributions right when compa=
ring them...)

//Emma Radahl
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the HSPF model. All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration e=
tc), they are applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After=
 which each PERLND and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which lead=
s to separate runoff values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are then add=
ed to give the total runoff value to a RCHRES, together with inflow from up=
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Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little clearer on that issue
then.

=20

What kind of sewers are you talking about?  Sanitary? Storm? Combined?
Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are generally

treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment plant in between
or not.  Storm sewers are generally ignored,

and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption that the flow
volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not

significantly different than water running down the street, say.
Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with

significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with - if it's a
significant volume or load source, then HSPF doesn't

really handle it well - linking with something like SWMM might work much
better.

=20

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

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From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?

=20

First of all, thanks to the people who helped me in sorting out the
public domain / open source issue. Although I am still a little
confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that=20
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software components integrated into the program are open source."
Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?

I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather
large source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good
reference on how to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as
point sources or is it something that's not dealt with in the model?

/Emma

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little =
clearer on
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What kind of sewers are you talking about?&nbsp; =
Sanitary?
Storm? Combined?&nbsp; Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are =
generally</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment =
plant in
between or not.&nbsp; Storm sewers are generally ignored,</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption =
that the
flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>significantly different than water running down the =
street,
say.&nbsp; Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with =
&#8211;
if it&#8217;s a significant volume or load source, then HSPF =
doesn&#8217;t</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>really handle it well &#8211; linking with something like =
SWMM might
work much better.</span></p>

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Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

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span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>W:
386-328-4463</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>C:
386-937-6341</span></p>

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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>First of all, thanks to the people =
who
helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although =
I am
still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that =
<br>
&quot;There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because =
all
software components integrated into the program are open =
source.&quot;<br>
Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?<br>
<br>
I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather =
large
source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference =
on how
to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or =
is it
something that's not dealt with in the model?<br>
<br>
/Emma<br>
<br>
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Yes, that sums it up pretty well.  Just add in point sources as another
possible inflow to a reach.

=20

It's also good to be clear that the PERLND and IMPLND runoff values are
computed on a unit-area basis, and then

multiplied by the respective areas before they are added up.

=20

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C: 386-937-6341

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From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20
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Subject: [basinsinfo] Double checking spatial distribution.

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Hello,

I was just wondering if I could double check one thing about the HSPF
model. All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration etc),
they are applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After
which each PERLND and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which
leads to separate runoff values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are
then added to give the total runoff value to a RCHRES, together with
inflow from upstream reaches?

(I am comparing the HSPF model with a somewhat less spatially
distributed model, and I just want to make sure I get the distributions
right when comparing them...)

//Emma Radahl
M.Sc Student, Sweden

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color:#1F497D'>Yes, that sums it up pretty well.&nbsp; Just add in point
sources as another possible inflow to a reach.</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It&#8217;s also good to be clear that the PERLND and =
IMPLND
runoff values are computed on a unit-area basis, and then</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>multiplied by the respective areas before they are added =
up.</span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

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Jobes</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>St
Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>tjobes@sjrwmd.com</=
span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>W:
386-328-4463</span></p>

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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 18, 2008 6:50 AM<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hello,<br>
<br>
I was just wondering if I could double check one thing about the HSPF =
model.
All the equations in the model (evaporation, infiltration etc), they are
applied separately for each PERLND and IMPLND, correct? After which each =
PERLND
and IMPLND produce a value per each timestep, which leads to separate =
runoff
values from each PERLND and IMPLND, which are then added to give the =
total
runoff value to a RCHRES, together with inflow from upstream =
reaches?<br>
<br>
(I am comparing the HSPF model with a somewhat less spatially =
distributed
model, and I just want to make sure I get the distributions right when
comparing them...)<br>
<br>
//Emma Radahl<br>
M.Sc Student, Sweden</span></p>

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From: Emma Radahl <emma_1982@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Single Sewer systems in HSPF?

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Yes, I assume it should be. I have now taken it to mean that no additional =
software is needed (like ArcGIS), since everything that BASINS uses can be =
run without extra programs that would otherwise have to be bought. Hope tha=
t is what it really means.

Mainly sanitary sewers. I hope it is the correct English term, what I mean =
are drains from private properties that aren't connected to the main system=
 that leads to large treatment plants. From what I have read, they are rath=
er significant sources of pollution here.
So it would be possible to link HSPF to another model to get good values of=
 these pollutant loads for use in HSPF?=20

Thank you.
Emma

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little clearer on
that issue then.

=20

What kind of sewers are you talking about?  Sanitary?
Storm? Combined?  Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are generally

treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment plant in
between or not.  Storm sewers are generally ignored,

and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption that the
flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not

significantly different than water running down the street,
say.  Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with

significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with =96
if it=92s a significant volume or load source, then HSPF doesn=92t

really handle it well =96 linking with something like SWMM might
work much better.

=20

Tom
Jobes

St
Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W:
386-328-4463

C:
386-937-6341

=20

From: Emma Radahl
[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20

Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM

To: Private list for BASINS users

Subject: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?

=20

First of all, thanks to the people who
helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although I =
am
still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that=20

"There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because all
software components integrated into the program are open source."

Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?

I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large
source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on h=
ow
to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or is i=
t
something that's not dealt with in the model?

/Emma

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<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Cal=
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<p class=3D"EC_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Cal=
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[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM<br>
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helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although I =
am
still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that <b=
r>
"There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because all
software components integrated into the program are open source."<br>
Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?<br>
<br>
I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather large
source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference on h=
ow
to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or is i=
t
something that's not dealt with in the model?<br>
<br>
/Emma<br>
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Do you mean septic systems, then, with a tank that drains through a
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typical local failure rates. (Non-failed septics are typically assumed

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Yes, I assume it should be. I have now taken it to mean that no
additional software is needed (like ArcGIS), since everything that
BASINS uses can be run without extra programs that would otherwise have
to be bought. Hope that is what it really means.

Mainly sanitary sewers. I hope it is the correct English term, what I
mean are drains from private properties that aren't connected to the
main system that leads to large treatment plants. From what I have read,
they are rather significant sources of pollution here.
So it would be possible to link HSPF to another model to get good values
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Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little clearer on that issue
then.

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What kind of sewers are you talking about?  Sanitary? Storm? Combined?
Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are generally

treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment plant in between
or not.  Storm sewers are generally ignored,

and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption that the flow
volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not

significantly different than water running down the street, say.
Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers with

significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with - if it's a
significant volume or load source, then HSPF doesn't

really handle it well - linking with something like SWMM might work much
better.

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Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

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I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Do you mean septic systems, then, with a tank that drains
through a tile-drain system?&nbsp; These are generally also represented =
as point </span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>sources to the stream, with loads estimated by population
density and typical local failure rates. (Non-failed septics are =
typically assumed</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>to reduce the pollutant load to the background =
level.)</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>Tom
Jobes</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>St
Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>tjobes@sjrwmd.com</=
span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>W:
386-328-4463</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>C:
386-937-6341</span></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Emma Radahl
[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 18, 2008 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Private list for BASINS users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in =
HSPF?</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Yes, I assume it should be. I have =
now taken
it to mean that no additional software is needed (like ArcGIS), since
everything that BASINS uses can be run without extra programs that would
otherwise have to be bought. Hope that is what it really means.<br>
<br>
Mainly sanitary sewers. I hope it is the correct English term, what I =
mean are
drains from private properties that aren't connected to the main system =
that
leads to large treatment plants. From what I have read, they are rather
significant sources of pollution here.<br>
So it would be possible to link HSPF to another model to get good values =
of
these pollutant loads for use in HSPF? <br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
Emma</span></p>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>

<hr size=3D2 align=3Dcenter>

</span></div>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Single =
Sewer
systems in HSPF?<br>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:09:05 -0400<br>
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com<br>
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov</span></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sounds like the BASINS 4 manual should be a little =
clearer on
that issue then.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What kind of sewers are you talking about?&nbsp; =
Sanitary?
Storm? Combined?&nbsp; Closed sanitary sewer outfalls are =
generally</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>treated as point sources, whether there is a treatment =
plant in
between or not.&nbsp; Storm sewers are generally ignored,</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>and lumped into the surface runoff, on the assumption =
that the
flow volumes, timing, and pollutant loads are not</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>significantly different than water running down the =
street,
say.&nbsp; Combined sewers (or similarly sanitary sewers =
with</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>significant inflow/infiltration) are harder to deal with =
&#8211; if
it&#8217;s a significant volume or load source, then HSPF =
doesn&#8217;t</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>really handle it well &#8211; linking with something like =
SWMM might
work much better.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#244236'>Tom Jobes</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
color:#244236'>St Johns River Water Management District</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
color:#244236'>tjobes@sjrwmd.com</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
color:#244236'>W: 386-328-4463</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
color:#244236'>C: 386-937-6341</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
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[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 18, 2008 5:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Private list for BASINS users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [basinsinfo] Single Sewer systems in HSPF?</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>First of all, thanks to the people =
who
helped me in sorting out the public domain / open source issue. Although =
I am
still a little confused, since I read in the BASINS 4 User's Manual that =
<br>
&quot;There are no additional software requirements for BASINS because =
all
software components integrated into the program are open =
source.&quot;<br>
Does this only refer to the MapWindow software then?<br>
<br>
I'm also curious as to how HSPF handles single sewers? It's a rather =
large
source when it comes to pollution, and I haen't found a good reference =
on how
to deal with that in the model. Is it simply input as point sources or =
is it
something that's not dealt with in the model?<br>
<br>
/Emma</span></p>

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Tom,

I just had to double check something with you here. Have I understood you c=
orrectly that you mean that as it is today, anyone can modify the source co=
de for HSPF, AQUATOX and PLOAD for their own use?

Sincerely,
Emma

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,

=20

I believe the confusion may be between the terms =93open
source=94 and =93public domain=94.  I believe all three models
you list are

public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free,
including having access to the source code.  =93Open source=94
implies more=20

than that =96 that the community of users contribute to the software
development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the source

for these models for their own use, but those changes generally
do not contribute back to the official versions, unless specific

arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the
code.  Therefore I would not consider them =93open source=94
models.

=20

Tom
Jobes

St
Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W:
386-328-4463

C:
386-937-6341

=20

From: Emma Radahl
[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20

Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM

To: Private list for BASINS users

Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?

=20

Hello,

=20

I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and wheth=
er
or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this
straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.

=20

Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to u=
se
with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from
people who should know, which confuses me to no end.

=20

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ibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">than that =96 that the commun=
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models.</span></p>

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Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

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or not they are "open source", so I will need to get this
straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible to u=
se
with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this from
people who should know, which confuses me to no end.<br>
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Emma Radahl</span></p>

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I know that is true of HSPF - people have done so before - and I believe
it should be true of the others.  If however you modified and tried to
sell it, then you might have some issues.

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St Johns River Water Management District

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Tom,

I just had to double check something with you here. Have I understood
you correctly that you mean that as it is today, anyone can modify the
source code for HSPF, AQUATOX and PLOAD for their own use?

Sincerely,
Emma

________________________________

Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov

Emma,

=20

I believe the confusion may be between the terms "open source" and
"public domain".  I believe all three models you list are

public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, including
having access to the source code.  "Open source" implies more=20

than that - that the community of users contribute to the software
development effort.  Anyone can freely modify the source

for these models for their own use, but those changes generally do not
contribute back to the official versions, unless specific

arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of the code.
Therefore I would not consider them "open source" models.

=20

Tom Jobes

St Johns River Water Management District

tjobes@sjrwmd.com

W: 386-328-4463

C: 386-937-6341

=20

From: Emma Radahl [mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com]=20
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To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?

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Hello,
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color:#1F497D'>I know that is true of HSPF &#8211; people have done so =
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believe it should be true of the others.&nbsp; If however you modified =
and tried to
sell it, then you might have some issues.</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>Tom
Jobes</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>St
Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>tjobes@sjrwmd.com</=
span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>W:
386-328-4463</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#244236'>C:
386-937-6341</span></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p>

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0in 0in 0in'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Emma Radahl
[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Private list for BASINS users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?</span></p>

</div>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Tom,<br>
<br>
I just had to double check something with you here. Have I understood =
you
correctly that you mean that as it is today, anyone can modify the =
source code
for HSPF, AQUATOX and PLOAD for their own use?<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Emma</span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>

<hr size=3D2 align=3Dcenter>

</span></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: RE: [basinsinfo] Open Source =
or
Not?<br>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:21:08 -0400<br>
From: tjobes@sjrwmd.com<br>
To: basinsinfo@lists.epa.gov</span></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Emma,</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I believe the confusion may be between the terms =
&#8220;open source&#8221;
and &#8220;public domain&#8221;.&nbsp; I believe all three models you =
list are</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>public domain, meaning that anyone can use them for free, =
including
having access to the source code.&nbsp; &#8220;Open source&#8221; =
implies more </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>than that &#8211; that the community of users contribute =
to the
software development effort.&nbsp; Anyone can freely modify the =
source</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>for these models for their own use, but those changes =
generally
do not contribute back to the official versions, unless =
specific</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>arrangements are made with the maintainers/controllers of =
the
code.&nbsp; Therefore I would not consider them &#8220;open =
source&#8221; models.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#244236'>St Johns River Water Management District</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
color:#244236'>tjobes@sjrwmd.com</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
color:#244236'>W: 386-328-4463</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";
color:#244236'>C: 386-937-6341</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span></p>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Emma Radahl
[mailto:emma_1982@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Private list for BASINS users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [basinsinfo] Open Source or Not?</span></p>

</div>

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></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hello,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I am hearing two different things concerning the models in BASINS and =
whether
or not they are &quot;open source&quot;, so I will need to get this
straightened out since it is something that is of importance to me.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Are PLOAD, HSPF and AQUATOX, that is, the models that are now possible =
to use
with BASINS, Open Source or not? I have heard both yes and no on this =
from
people who should know, which confuses me to no end.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Emma Radahl</span></p>

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:57:13 -0400
From: Biswarup Guha <bguha@hydroqual.com>
Subject: RE: Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF

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I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string """" t=
o type 'Double' is not valid.) while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF. Sur=
prisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I ran the B=
ASINS.

Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me how to=
 rectify this error?

I'd really appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance,

Roop.

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X-Message-Number: 41
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:02:15 -0500
From: "Y. Jun Xu" <yjxu@lsu.edu>
Subject: Research Associate Opportunity

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Dear All,

I would be grateful if colleagues would forward=20
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Jun Xu

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Postdoctoral Fellow / Research Associate =96 Watershed Modeling

The Watershed Hydrology lab at Louisiana State=20
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practices in agriculture/forest dominated=20
watersheds. The successful candidate should have=20
(1) a solid background in hydrology and water=20
resources, (2) hands-on experience of using=20
watershed models including SWAT/HSPF/BASINS and=20
GIS/RS applications, (3) physical ability to work=20
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ability to work well independently and as part of=20
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and equipment used in stream measurements and=20
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logger, ISCO automated sampler system, and=20
Hydrolab/YSI multiprobe) would be a big plus.

The position is for one year with possibility of=20
extension. Salary will be commensurate with=20
qualifications and experience. Benefits include=20
retirement, university holidays, earned annual=20
and sick leave, optional medical and life=20
insurances. The position is immediately=20
available. Applicants should send a statement=20
outlining research interests, resume, university=20
transcripts, and the names and addresses of three=20
references to Jun Xu (yjxu@lsu.edu).

Louisiana State University/Agricultural Center=20
provides equal opportunities in programs and=20
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School of Renewable Natural Resources
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Phone: 225-578-0897 or 225-578-4168
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:02:00 -0000
From: "MICHELIN Christophe" <christophe.michelin@egis.fr>
Subject: What's wrong with Surfer 7 grid and basins 4 readings ?

What?s wrong between Surfer 7 grids and Basins 4 grids? Basins bug or misfit 
for me? 

When I import a Surfer 7 grid with the GIS TOOLS/ Raster/ Change Grids 
format    Basins 4 read correctly only  X & Y data?s but all Z values are 
turned to zero.

If I transform a Basins 4 grid into Ascii grid and replace Basins zero values 
with surfer values, the final result is correct except that the map is 
mirroring along Y axe.
If I perform an Y mirroring surfer grid with surfer and replace values into 
Basins 4 ascii grid, the result is perfect.

It?s not so long to do that but not very convenient.

What?s wrong ? Is anyone have a solution ?

Sincerely yours
Email : christophe.michelin@egis.fr

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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:51:52 -0400
From: "Paul Duda" <pbduda@aquaterra.com>
Subject: RE: Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF

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This error might occur if a feature of the the land use layer has a blank
value in the land use code field.  In other words, where normally each
feature of the land use layer has been assigned a code such as 11 or 21, for
instance, there is one that has not been assigned a value, or it is blank.

Paul
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Biswarup Guha [mailto:bguha@hydroqual.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:57 PM
  To: Private list for BASINS users
  Subject: RE:[basinsinfo] Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF
  Importance: High

  Hi,

  I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string """"
to type 'Double' is not valid.) while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF.
Surprisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I ran the
BASINS.

  Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me how
to rectify this error?

  I'd really appreciate your help.

  Thanks in advance,

  Roop.

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  <DIV><BR><SPAN class=3D723555223-23042008><FONT face=3DArial=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D723555223-23042008><FONT face=3DArial=20
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color=3D#0000ff>I am=20
  encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string """" =
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From: Biswarup Guha <bguha@hydroqual.com>
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Thanks, Paul. Somehow when reclassifying the landuse, the last landuse did =
not have the impervious percent and that was causing this error.

Paul, could you please enlighten me how to model lakes in HSPF? In BASINS I=
 specified the outlets at the lake outlets as Reservoir outlets. I do not h=
ave any rating curve data of the lakes, so I am using one rating curve for =
the entire watershed. The flow generated by the HSPF is not totally differe=
nt from the data (I have few months of data so far) when I do this.

Thanks for your help.

Roop.

________________________________
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re of the land use layer has been assigned a code such as 11 or 21, for ins=
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Paul
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:57 PM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: RE:[basinsinfo] Error while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF
Importance: High

Hi,

I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string """" t=
o type 'Double' is not valid.) while transitioning from BASINS to HSPF. Sur=
prisingly, I wasn't getting this error on the previous occation I ran the B=
ASINS.

Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me how to=
 rectify this error?

I'd really appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance,

Roop.

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<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"465535413-25042008"><font fa=
ce=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">Thanks, Paul. Somehow when reclassifying the=
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<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"465535413-25042008"><font fa=
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<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"465535413-25042008"><font fa=
ce=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">Paul, could you please enlighten me how to m=
odel lakes in HSPF? In BASINS I specified the outlets at the lake outlets a=
s Reservoir outlets. I do not have any rating
 curve data of the lakes, so I am using one rating curve for the entire wat=
ershed. The flow generated by the HSPF is not totally different from the da=
ta (I have few months of data so far) when I do this.</font></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"465535413-25042008"><font fa=
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<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"465535413-25042008"><font fa=
ce=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">Thanks for your help.</font></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"465535413-25042008"><font fa=
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<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"465535413-25042008"><font fa=
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a blank value in the land use code field.&nbsp; In other words, where norma=
lly each feature of the land use layer has been
 assigned a code such as 11 or 21, for instance, there is one that has not =
been assigned a value, or it is blank.&nbsp;
</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff"><span class=3D"140134413-250420=
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Private list for BASINS users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE:[basinsinfo] Error while transitioning from BASINS to HS=
PF<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<br>
<br>
</font></div>
<font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff"></font>
<div><br>
<span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">H=
i,</font></span></div>
<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
ff"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
ff">I am encountering an error (An error occured: Conversion from string &q=
uot;&quot;&quot;&quot; to type 'Double' is not valid.)&nbsp;while transitio=
ning from BASINS to HSPF. Surprisingly, I wasn't getting this error
 on the previous occation I ran the BASINS.</font></span></div>
<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
ff"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
ff">Has anybody encountered this error? Could somebody please suggest me ho=
w to rectify this error?</font></span></div>
<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
ff"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
ff">I'd really appreciate your help.</font></span></div>
<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
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<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
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<div><span class=3D"723555223-23042008"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000=
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:33:42 -0400
From: Biswarup Guha <bguha@hydroqual.com>
Subject: RE:Error while running HSPF - Array subscripts exceeds allocated area

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Hi,

While executing the HSPS, I am getting the following error: "Array subscrip=
t exceeds allocated area (see "Arrays" in the Lahey Fortran 90 Language Ref=
erence). Error occured at line 1945 of the file C:\lib3.0\src\wdm\WDTMS1.FO=
R

First of all I don't have any lib3.0 directory on my C drive. How do I find=
 out which array has the problem?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Roop.

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<font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">While executing the HSPS, I am getti=
ng the following error: &quot;Array subscript exceeds allocated area (see &=
quot;Arrays&quot; in the Lahey Fortran 90 Language Reference). Error occure=
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This crash is a problem writing to the WDM file.  It's one I've never
seen, but seems to be either a date problem or a corrupted WDM file.

Check your input dates, and if there is no problem there, try replacing
the WDM with a backup  if you have one.

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Tom Jobes

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tjobes@sjrwmd.com

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C: 386-937-6341

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Hi,

While executing the HSPS, I am getting the following error: "Array
subscript exceeds allocated area (see "Arrays" in the Lahey Fortran 90
Language Reference). Error occured at line 1945 of the file
C:\lib3.0\src\wdm\WDTMS1.FOR

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>This crash is a problem writing to the WDM file.&nbsp; =
It&#8217;s one I&#8217;ve
never seen, but seems to be either a date problem or a corrupted WDM =
file.</span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Check your input dates, and if there is no problem there, =
try
replacing the WDM with a backup &nbsp;if you have one.</span></p>

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Johns River Water Management District</span></p>

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span></p>

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386-328-4463</span></p>

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</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>While executing the HSPS, I am getting the following error:
&quot;Array subscript exceeds allocated area (see &quot;Arrays&quot; in =
the
Lahey Fortran 90 Language Reference). Error occured at line 1945 of the =
file
C:\lib3.0\src\wdm\WDTMS1.FOR</span><span =
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Has anyone run the Climate Assessment Tool in BASINS 4 GIS with good result=
s? I was testing it out, and it seems to work fine if I only have it vary t=
he precipitation series in my meteorologic wdm-file, but if I add that it s=
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When I vary only the precipitation time series, and as output define that I=
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When I vary both the precipitation time series and the temperature time ser=
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X-Message-Number: 48
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:45:51 -0400
From: Biswarup Guha <bguha@hydroqual.com>
Subject: RE: BASINS NED Data Download

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Hi,

I am trying to use the 30 m resolution NED Dataset. I downloaded the NED da=
ta from the BASINS interface and the elevation units are in cm. I assumed i=
nitially that the centimeters would be converted automatically to meters (w=
hich is the default). However, the numbers are getting carried over through=
out the process and in HSPF as well. So, I am getting elevation drops of 90=
0 ft whereas it should be around 7-9 ft. Also, BASINS is calculating zero s=
lopes which is odd too. Could you please suggest a way around this problem?

Thanks,
Roop.

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ff">I am trying to use the 30 m resolution NED Dataset. I downloaded the NE=
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ed initially that the centimeters would
 be converted automatically to meters (which is the default). However, the =
numbers are getting carried over throughout the process and in HSPF as well=
. So, I am getting elevation drops of 900 ft whereas it should be around 7-=
9 ft. Also, BASINS is calculating
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ff"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
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X-Message-Number: 49
X-lyris-Id: 169118
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:09:06 -0400
From: "Chin, David A." <dchin@miami.edu>
Subject: WinHSPF - PEST Linkage

Colleagues,

I am successfully running a WinHSPF Project where the outflow has a known D=
SN (in the output file), and the corresponding measured flow has a known DS=
N (in the input MetWDM file). Both time series can be viewed simultaneously=
 with GenScn utility.

Subsequent to these successful runs, PEST is initiated within the WinHSPF e=
nvironment. The pop-up window shows the correct DSN for the output time ser=
ies, and I put in the DSN for the measured time series. When PEST starts ru=
nning, it gives an error that it cannot open the MetWDM file. (I have no pr=
oblem opening the file with WDMUtil).

Any suggestions on how to fix this problem?

Thanks,

David Chin

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X-lyris-Id: 169136
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:03:46 -0400
From: Partington.Ed@epamail.epa.gov
Subject: RE:BASINS NED Data Download

Thanks for pointing out this problem in BASINS4 in the automatic
delineation using the 30 m NED dataset.

A work around is to put a decimal place 2 digits to the left in the
elevation column in the .dbf file which should make it meters.

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Hi,

I am trying to use the 30 m resolution NED Dataset. I downloaded the NED
data from the BASINS interface and the elevation units are in cm. I
assumed initially that the centimeters would be converted automatically
to meters (which is the default). However, the numbers are getting
carried over throughout the process and in HSPF as well. So, I am
getting elevation drops of 900 ft whereas it should be around 7-9 ft.
Also, BASINS is calculating zero slopes which is odd too. Could you
please suggest a way around this problem?

Thanks,
Roop.

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