MINUTES OF THE                              
FEDERAL INTERAGENCY COMMITTEE ON
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES (FICEMS)

COUNTER-TERRORISM SUBCOMMITTEE

DATE & TIME: September 2, 2004 1:00 p.m.  
LOCATION: National Emergency Training Center (NETC)
Building J, Room 107 
16825 South Seton Avenue
Emmitsburg, Maryland 21727

MEMBER AGENCY REPRESENTATION: 

Department of Homeland Security
Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
Mr. Gordon Sachs
CT Subcommittee Chair
United States Fire Administration (USFA)

Mr. John Hoyle
United States Fire Administration (USFA)

Department of Agriculture
No Representation

Department of Commerce (DOC)
No Representation

Department of Defense (DOD)
Department of the Navy
No Representation

Department of Health and Human Services
HRSA
Mr. Terry Mullins
Trauma-Emergency Medical Services Technical Assistance Center

Indian Health Service
Ms. Cathy Stueckemann
Office of Clinical and Preventative Services

Ms. Christina Whitehorn
Office of Clinical and Preventative Services

Department of Interior
No Representation 

Department of Justice (DOJ)
No Representation 

Department of Labor
No Representation 

Department of Transportation (DOT)
NHTSA
Mr. Drew Dawson
Ms. Susan McHenry
Mr. David Bryson
Ms. Carol Ferro

Department of Veteran Affairs
No Representation

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
No Representation

Federal Communications Commission
No Representation

General Services Administration (GSA)
No Representation

OTHER ATTENDEES PRIVATE SECTOR: 

American Ambulance Association
Mr. Kurt Krumperman*

ASTM
Mr. Pete Chambers*

*Dial-In Participants

I. WELCOME

Mr. Gordon Sachs called the meeting to order at 1:20 pm.  

II. INTRODUCTIONS 

Attendees introduced themselves.  

III. ROUNDTABLE OF ATTENDEES' INVOLVEMENT IN COUNTER-TERRORISM PROJECTS 

Mr. Sachs mentioned the issue of dissolving the subcommittee as it was brought up in the main FICEMS meeting.  Ms. McHenry, NHTSA, recapped the discussion as it might be best to address the key issues in the main FICEMS meeting vs. at the subcommittee level.  There needs to be consensus to dissolve the subcommittee by the FICEMS body and chair (AI).  
With that topic on the table, Mr. Gordon Sachs asked if anyone wanted to discuss anything further and reviewed pending actions items.  All items will be deferred until the decision has been made to dissolve the subcommittee.  

NHSTA: Mr. Drew Dawson
Mr. Dawson & Mr. Sachs were on a high-level committee with DHHS.  Together they were to provide information on community EMS.  

HRSA:  Mr. Terry Mullins
Mr. Mullins mentioned that the Trauma EMS program is working on revising the 1992 Trauma Systems Plan.  Cheryl Anderson has asked a prominent surgeon from Boston to review the document in its latest revision.

HHS:  Cathy Stueckemann
Ms. Stueckemann mentioned that she was not the one who handled the CT aspect of HHS.  She mentioned the reorganization will have an Office of Emergency EMS.  She discussed the various positions of which the top three positions have been committed funding and are directly related to EMS.  If USFA has position descriptions for these positions, it would be helpful so they don't have to reinvent the wheel.  

USFA: Mr. Gordon Sachs
Ms. Sachs says the biggest thing USFA has been working on has to do with integrating NIMS into our training courses since most agencies are required to comply with NIMS at the government level . Various courses are coming out over the next few months: IS 100, IS 200, IS 700. 

USFA has been working closely with NHTSA on revising the NFA class that was ICS for EMS.  It will now be called NIMS ICS for EMS. That should be done this fall.  USFA and NHTSA should start training the trainers in November.  USFA is also revising the class, NIMS for the Fire Service.

In addition, USFA is working on training regional and state incident management teams and working on how coordinating with Federal Incident Management Teams as well.

AAA: Mr. Kurt Krumperman
Mr. Krumperman, AAA, is trying to stay involved and engaged in the difference meetings as it is related to CT. AAA was asked to participate in Expert Meeting on Mass Casualty Medical Care (Aug. 3 and 4th).  It was organized by HHS, Office of Public Health and Emergency Preparedness.  It dealt with a changed paradigm with mass casualty (10K plus).  They are going to have more meetings and it may be of interest for this group to get involved. Mr. Krumperman suggested agency participation and provided the coordinators contact information:  Sally Phillips, Director of Bio-terrorism, 202-828-5100.

IV. ESTABLISH OBJECTIVES FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE

This agenda section has been deferred until further consensus on the disbanding of the subcommittee as a whole.

V.	ACTION ITEM REVIEW

All pending action items have been deferred until further consensus on the status of the subcommittee as a whole.

Action Items from this meeting:  
1. Further determination or consensus of dissolving the subcommittee, FICEMS Body & USFA.

VI.	SET NEXT MEETING AGENDA

	TBD

VII. NEXT MEETING

September 2, 2004, 1:00 p.m.,
            NTIS, Springfield, VA
 
VIII. ADJOURNMENT

Meeting adjourned at 1:35 p.m.

FICEMS Counter-Terrorism Subcommittee APPROVED Minutes  September 2004