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Not too slick for people who live in DC, unless they run a K-12 school.
 
miguel

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At 04:31 PM 5/24/99 , John wrote:

We have an automated registration site for the .US domains. Its a free
service for anyone to use. 

This is a slick site.  What's the business model?
Will it scale?

--tony 

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When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web sites. I was
looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should be
regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please no
more ads for web sites or anything else.
..

Thanks

> We have an automated registration site for the .US domains. Its a free
> service for anyone to use. 

....

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At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote:
>When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web sites. I was
>looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should be
>regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please no
>more ads for web sites or anything else.

Jay,

These kinds of implementations are indeed highly
relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates
how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based
front ends, as well as small businesses, around
facilitating end users making use of the existing
domain space.

Two key related questions concern the business model
of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively
with a large number of users.

Bring on more business examples!!

--tony 
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At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>When I came on this list I was not asking to
see ads for web sites. I was<br>
looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should
be<br>
regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please
no<br>
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Jay,<br>
<br>
These kinds of implementations are indeed highly<br>
relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates<br>
how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based<br>
front ends, as well as small businesses, around<br>
facilitating end users making use of the existing<br>
domain space.<br>
<br>
Two key related questions concern the business model<br>
of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively<br>
with a large number of users.<br>
<br>
Bring on more business examples!!<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
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In that case, let's discuss how this particular
example was in poor taste.  It's built around a
hidden cost.  It gives no information on what
use the provided data might be put to.  And it
was sent to a discussion list.

I think this particular example of marketing
is an unfortunately good example of why there
is a need to regulate commercial speech on
the Internet.

Jim Williams.

A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
> 
> At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote:
> 
> > When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web sites. I was
> > looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should be
> > regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please no
> > more ads for web sites or anything else.
> 
> Jay,
> 
> These kinds of implementations are indeed highly
> relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates
> how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based
> front ends, as well as small businesses, around
> facilitating end users making use of the existing
> domain space.
> 
> Two key related questions concern the business model
> of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively
> with a large number of users.
> 
> Bring on more business examples!!
> 
> --tony
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Hi Jim,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Williams [mailto:jlw@odi.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 3:38 PM
> To: A.M. Rutkowski
> Cc: Jay Hauben; us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov; postmaster@top.votiv.com
> Subject: Re: Automated .US Registration Site
> 
> 
> In that case, let's discuss how this particular
> example was in poor taste. 
How is it in poor taste?
 It's built around a
> hidden cost. 
What hidden cost? Any ISP or customer of an ISP can use this
free.
 It gives no information on what
> use the provided data might be put to. 
The information is put to no use at all. It is a pass through
to isi.edu.

 And it
> was sent to a discussion list.
>
Right... and no doubt it is starting one! 
> I think this particular example of marketing
> is an unfortunately good example of why there
> is a need to regulate commercial speech on
> the Internet.
> 
I couldn't disagree more. I believe all speech is protected
in the US, no matter if you believe it smacks of commercialism.
The fact is we sent it out for people to use for free. 
Actually we have been trying to give it to isi.edu for some time, 
but we can't even get them to update our whois...

> Jim Williams.
> 
> 
> A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
> > 
> > At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote:
> > 
> > > When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web 
> sites. I was
> > > looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space 
> should be
> > > regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise 
> , please no
> > > more ads for web sites or anything else.
> > 
> > Jay,
> > 
> > These kinds of implementations are indeed highly
> > relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates
> > how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based
> > front ends, as well as small businesses, around
> > facilitating end users making use of the existing
> > domain space.
> > 
> > Two key related questions concern the business model
> > of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively
> > with a large number of users.
> > 
> > Bring on more business examples!!
> > 
> > --tony
> 

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ISI has operated its own Web-based registration front end for at least a
year.
It's at http://www.isi.edu/cgi-bin/usdomreg/template.pl.

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