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 FEDERAL  COMMUNICATIONS  COMMISSION  DA  01-  812 
 Before  the  Federal  Communications  Commission 
 Washington,  D.  C.  20554 
 In  the  Matter  of  )  File  No.  EB-  00-  IH-  0261 
 Citicasters  Co.  )  NAL/  Acct.  No.  200132080027 
 )  Facility  ID  #18114 
 Licensee  of  Station  KEGL(  FM),  ) 
 Fort  Worth,  Texas  ) 


 NOTICE  OF  APPARENT  LIABILITY  FOR  FORFEITURE 
 Adopted:  March  30,  2001  Released:  April  3,  2001 
 By  the  Chief,  Enforcement  Bureau: 
 I.  INTRODUCTION 
 1.  In  this  Notice  of  Apparent  Liability  for  Forfeiture  ("  NAL"),  we  find  that  Citicasters  Co. 
 (  Citicasters),  licensee  of  Station  KEGL(  FM),  Fort  Worth,  Texas,  has  apparently  violated  18 
 U.  S.  C.    1464  and  47  C.  F.  R.    73.  3999,  by  willfully  and  repeatedly  broadcasting  indecent 
 language.  Based  on  our  review  of  the  facts  and  circumstances  in  this  case,  we  conclude  that 
 Citicasters  is  apparently  liable  for  a  forfeiture  in  the  amount  of  fourteen  thousand  dollars  ($  14,000). 


 II.  BACKGROUND 
 2.  The  Commission  received  a  complaint  dated  August  6,  2000,  concerning  broadcasts 
 that  aired  on  KEGL  on  May  30,  May  31,  August  1  and  August  3,  2000.  The  complaint  included 
 transcripts  and  pictures  taken  from  the  stations  website.  Review  of  the  complaint  revealed  that 
 the  May  30  broadcast  occurred  at  11  p.  m.,  while  the  August  1  broadcast  did  not  appear  to  raise  a 
 prima  facie  question  of  actionable  indecency.  However,  because  the  May  31  and  August  3 
 broadcasts  contained  apparently  indecent  material  and  aired  between  7  p.  m.  and  10  p.  m.,  we 
 issued  a  letter  of  inquiry  to  the  licensee. 


 3.  In  its  response,  Citicasters  asserts  that  it  cannot  verify  whether  the  material  aired. 
 However,  the  licensee  does  acknowledge  that  it  admonished  Kramer  and  Twitch,  the  hosts  of 
 the  programs  in  question,  following  one  of  their  shows  in  late  May  or  early  June  because 
 management  believed  that  certain  material  may  have  been  inappropriate  for  the  stations 
 audience.  With  respect  to  the  August  3  broadcast,  Citicasters  argues  that  the  material  allegedly 
 aired  was  not  indecent.  Citicasters  submits  that,  at  worst,  the  material  includes  a  few  scattered 
 and  vague  references  of  a  sexual  nature,    [which]  are  neither  explicitly  graphic  nor  pandering. 
 Citicasters  claims  that  it  has  a  formal  policy  prohibiting  the  broadcast  of  indecent  material;  that 
 KEGLs  management  routinely  advises  the  stations  on-  air  staff  of  the  policy;  and  that  it 
 vigilantly  monitors  the  stations  broadcasts  for  compliance.  Citicasters  also  notes  that, 
 beginning  in  December  2000,  KEGL  began  airing  the  Kramer  and  Twitch  program  on  a  12- 
 hour  delayed  basis.  Citicasters  explains  that,  currently,  the  program  is  taped  in  San  Jose, 
 California,  and  then  reviewed  and  edited  by  KEGL  personnel  prior  to  being  broadcast  by  the 
 station.  In  addition,  KEGL  regularly  airs  a  message  both  before  and  after  the  Kramer  and 
 Twitch  show,  which  notifies  listeners  that  the  program  may  contain  material  more  suitable  for 
 adults. 
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 III.  DISCUSSION 
 4.  Section  503(  b)(  1)  of  the  Communications  Act  (the  Act),  47  U.  S.  C.    503(  b)(  1), 
 provides  in  pertinent  part: 


 Any  person  who  is  determined  by  the  Commission,  in  accordance  with  paragraph 
 (3)  or  (4)  of  this  subsection  to  have  --  - 
  
 (D)  violated  any  provision  of  section  1304,  1343,  or  1464  of  title  18,  United 
 States  Code; 
 shall  be  liable  to  the  United  States  for  a  forfeiture  penalty. 


 18  U.  S.  C.    1464  provides  criminal  penalties  for  anyone  who  utters  any  obscene,  indecent  or 
 profane  language  by  means  of  radio  communication.  As  explained  below,  we  believe  that 
 language  broadcast  during  the  May  31  and  August  3  programs  of  Kramer  and  Twitch  was 
 indecent  and  that  the  licensees  broadcast  of  that  material  was  willful. 


 5.  The  Commission  has  defined  indecent  speech  as  language  that,  in  context,  depicts  or 
 describes,  in  terms  patently  offensive  as  measured  by  contemporary  community  standards  for  the 
 broadcast  medium,  sexual  or  excretory  activities  or  organs.  Infinity  Broadcasting  Corporation  of 
 Pennsylvania,  2  FCC  Rcd  2705  (1987)  (subsequent  history  omitted)  (citing  Pacifica  Foundation, 
 56  FCC  2d  94,  98  (1975),  affd  sub  nom.  FCC  v.  Pacifica  Foundation,  438  U.  S.  726  (1978).  The 
 Commissions  authority  to  restrict  the  broadcast  of  indecent  material  extends  to  times  when  there 
 is  a  reasonable  risk  that  children  may  be  in  the  audience.  Action  for  Childrens  Television  v. 
 FCC,  852  F.  2d  1332  (D.  C.  Cir.  1988).  Current  law  holds  that  such  times  begin  at  6  a.  m.  and 
 conclude  at  10  p.  m.  Action  for  Childrens  Television  v.  FCC,  58  F.  3d  654  (D.  C.  Cir.  1995),  cert. 
 denied,  116  S.  Ct.  701  (1996).  Thus,  to  be  actionably  indecent,  the  material  in  question  must  not 
 only  meet  the  standard  referenced  above  but  also  air  after  6  a.  m.  and  before  10  p.  m.  See  47 
 C.  F.  R.    73.  3999. 


 6.  After  carefully  considering  the  record  before  us,  it  appears  that  Citicasters  has  willfully 
 and  repeatedly  violated  our  indecency  rule.  Citicasters  does  not  deny  that  it  broadcast  the  language 
 in  question  before  10  p.  m.  The  May  31  broadcast  contains  dialogue  between  the  hosts  and  a 
 teenage  female  caller,  wherein,  among  other  things,  the  hosts  and  the  caller  discuss  bisexuality  and 
 masturbation,  and  the  hosts  attempt  to  have  the  caller  masturbate  during  the  course  of  the 
 conversation.  The  tone  of  the  conversation  is  pandering  and  titillating  in  that  the  hosts  persistently 
 inquire  about  the  callers  frequency  and  methods  of  masturbation,  and  they  assert  that  the  callers 
 father  masturbates  despite  his  apparent  disapproval  of  her  doing  so.  As  for  the  August  3  broadcast, 
 we  disagree  with  Citicasters  contention  that  indecent  language  was  not  aired.  That  broadcast 
 features  a  conversation  between  the  hosts  and  an  adult  film  actor  and  actress.  Among  other  things, 
 they  discuss  whether  the  actors  girl  friend  is  bisexual,  whether  the  actress  enjoys  anal  sex,  and 
 whether  the  actress  will  perform  a  sexual  act  on  one  of  the  hosts  whose  penis  is  uncut.  Once 
 again,  the  tone  of  the  conversation  is  pandering  and  titillating.  It  appears  that  both  broadcasts  were 
 indecent  in  that  they  contain  patently  offensive  descriptions  of  various  sexual  activities.  1  The 
 licensees  stated  policy  against  the  broadcast  of  indecent  material  apparently  had  no  impact  on  the 
 airing  of  the  cited  material,  and  its  current  procedures  for  editing  Kramer  and  Twitch  and 
 advising  audiences  about  its  content  have  no  bearing  on  whether  a  forfeiture  should  be  imposed. 
 See  Station  KGVL,  Inc.,  42  FCC  2d  258,  259  (1973). 


 1  See,  e.  g.,  Citicasters  Co.  (WXTB(  FM)),  13  FCC  Rcd  15381  (Mass  Media  Bureau  1998).  See  also  Regent 
 Licensee  of  Flagstaff,  Inc.  (KZGL(  FM)),  15  FCC  Rcd  17286  (Enforcement  Bureau  2000). 
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 7.  Section  503(  b)  of  the  Act  and  47  C.  F.  R.    1.80  both  state  that  any  person  who  willfully 
 or  repeatedly  fails  to  comply  with  the  Act  or  the  Commissions  rules  shall  be  liable  for  a  forfeiture 
 penalty.  For  purposes  of  47  U.  S.  C.    503(  b),  the  term  willful  means  that  the  violator  knew  that  it 
 was  taking  the  action  in  question,  irrespective  of  any  intent  to  violate  the  Commissions  rules.  2  As 
 explained  above,  Citicasters  knew  that  it  was  broadcasting  Kramer  and  Twitch  and  each  of  the 
 cited  segments.  In  assessing  a  forfeiture,  we  take  into  account  the  nature,  circumstances,  extent  and 
 gravity  of  the  violation,  and,  with  respect  to  the  violator,  the  degree  of  culpability,  any  history  of 
 prior  offenses,  ability  to  pay,  and  such  other  matters  as  justice  may  require.  3 


 8.  The  Commissions  Forfeiture  Guidelines  set  a  base  forfeiture  amount  of  $7,000  for 
 transmission  of  indecent/  obscene  materials.  4  After  considering  all  the  facts  and  circumstances, 
 we  believe  the  base  forfeiture  amount  is  the  appropriate  sanction  for  each  of  the  two  violations 
 described  above  and  that  neither  an  upward  nor  downward  adjustment  should  be  made. 


 IV.  ORDERING  CLAUSES 
 9.  Accordingly,  IT  IS  ORDERED  THAT,  pursuant  to  47  U.  S.  C.    503(  b),  and  47  C.  F.  R. 
   0.111,  0.311  and  1.80,  Citicasters  Co.  is  hereby  NOTIFIED  of  its  APPARENT  LIABILITY 
 FOR  A  FORFEITURE  in  the  amount  of  fourteen  thousand  dollars  ($  14,000)  for  willfully  and 
 repeatedly  violating  18  U.  S.  C.    1464  and  47  C.  F.  R.    73.  3999. 


 10.  IT  IS  FURTHER  ORDERED  THAT,  pursuant  to  47  C.  F.  R.    1.  80,  within  thirty  days 
 of  this  NOTICE  OF  APPARENT  LIABILITY,  Citicasters  Co.  SHALL  PAY  the  full  amount  of 
 the  proposed  forfeiture  or  SHALL  FILE  a  written  statement  seeking  reduction  or  cancellation  of 
 the  proposed  forfeiture. 


 11.  Payment  of  the  forfeiture  may  be  made  by  mailing  a  check  or  similar  instrument, 
 payable  to  the  order  of  the  Federal  Communications  Commission,  to  the  Forfeiture  Collection 
 Section,  Finance  Branch,  Federal  Communications  Commission,  P.  O.  Box  73482,  Chicago, 
 Illinois  60673-  7482.  The  payment  should  note  the  NAL/  Acct.  No.  referenced  above. 


 12.  The  response,  if  any,  must  be  mailed  to  the  Charles  W.  Kelley,  Chief,  Investigations 
 and  Hearings  Division,  Enforcement  Bureau,  Federal  Communications  Commission,  445  12th 
 Street,  S.  W.,  Room  3-  B443,  Washington,  D.  C.  20554  and  MUST  INCLUDE  THE  NAL/  Acct. 
 No.  referenced  above. 


 13.  The  Commission  will  not  consider  reducing  or  canceling  a  forfeiture  in  response  to  a 
 claim  of  inability  to  pay  unless  the  respondent  submits:  (1)  federal  tax  returns  for  the  most  recent 
 three-  year  period;  (2)  financial  statements  prepared  according  to  generally  accepted  accounting 
 practices  (  GAAP);  or  (3)  some  other  reliable  and  objective  documentation  that  accurately 


 2  See  Jerry  Szoka,  14  FCC  Rcd  9857,  9865  (1999);  Southern  California  Broadcasting  Co.,  6  FCC  Rcd  4387 
 (1991). 


 3  47  U.  S.  C.    503(  b)(  2)(  D).  See  also  The  Commissions  Forfeiture  Policy  Statement  and  Amendment  of 
 Section  1.  80  of  the  Rules  to  Incorporate  the  Forfeiture  Guidelines,  12  FCC  Rcd  17087,  17100-  01  (1997), 
 recon.  denied,  15  FCC  Rcd  303  (1999)  (  Forfeiture  Guidelines). 


 4  Forfeiture  Guidelines,  12  FCC  Rcd  at  17113. 
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 reflects  the  respondents  current  financial  status.  Any  claim  of  inability  to  pay  must  specifically 
 identify  the  basis  for  the  claim  by  reference  to  the  financial  documentation  submitted. 


 14.  Requests  for  payment  of  the  full  amount  of  this  Notice  of  Apparent  Liability  under 
 an  installment  plan  should  be  sent  to:  Chief,  Revenue  and  Receivables  Operations  Group,  445 
 12th  Street,  S.  W.,  Washington,  D.  C.  20554.  5 


 15.  IT  IS  FURTHER  ORDERED  THAT  a  copy  of  this  NOTICE  OF  APPARENT 
 LIABILITY  shall  be  sent  by  Certified  Mail  Return  Receipt  Requested  to  Citicasters  Co.,  c/  o 
 Kenneth  E.  Wyker,  General  Counsel,  Clear  Channel  Communications,  Inc.,  200  East  Basse  Road, 
 San  Antonio,  Texas  78209-  8328;  with  a  copy  to  Elizabeth  E.  Goldin,  Esq.,  Wiley,  Rein  & 
 Fielding,  1776  K  Street,  N.  W.,  Washington,  D.  C.  20006. 


 FEDERAL  COMMUNICATIONS  COMMISSION 


 David  H.  Solomon 
 Chief,  Enforcement  Bureau 


 5  See  47  C.  F.  R.    1.1914. 
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 ATTACHMENT 
 Radio  Station:  KEGL(  FM),  Fort  Worth,  Texas 
 Date/  Time  Broadcast:  (1)  May  31,  2000  at  9  p.  m.;  (2)  August  3,  2000  between  7:  45  p.  m.    9:  15 
 p.  m. 
 Material  Broadcast:  (1)  Telephone  conversation;  (2)  Interview  and  commentary 


 (1)  May  31,  2000  (9  p.  m.) 
 MV:  Male  Voice(  s)  (Hosts) 
 FV:  Caller 
 Boy:  Callers  brother 


 MV:  So  you  say  youre  17  and  your  parents  wont  let  you  listen  to  us?  Huh? 
 FV:  Yeah,  because  my  dad  is  like  a  bishop  in  my  church,  and  so  he  thinks  you  guys  are  evil. 
 MV:  Are  you  really  17?  What  year  were  you  born? 
 FV:  1983. 
 MV:  I  guess  thats  right.  Well,  17,  technically,  is  the  legal  age  of  consent.  So  you  really  dont 
 need  his  permission  to  listen  to  a  radio  show. 


 FV:  True.  But  I  still  live  under  his  house  and  so  he  could  kick  me  out. 
 MV:  What  does  he  say  about  the  show  that  he  doesnt  like? 
 FV:  He  says  it  will  put  evil  thoughts  in  my  head  and  stuff. 
 MV:  What  kind  of  evil  thoughts  do  we  put  in  your  head?  Have  you  been  thinking  about  sex? 
 FV:  Well,  you  guys  had  that  girl  on  who  like  wanted  to  get  off  on  another  girl. 
 MV:  Did  that  turn  you  on?  Any  of  that? 
 FV:  Yeah. 
 MV:  Do  you  think  youre  bi-  sexual  in  any  way? 
 FV:  Maybe.  And  thats  why  he  doesnt  like  it. 
 MV:  Are  you  a  virgin?  Yes? 
 FV:  Yeah. 
 MV:  So  your  dad  blames  us.  And  you  may  be  bi-  sexual,  right? 
 FV:  He  doesnt  say  that,  but  he  says  that  the  whole  pre-  marital  sex  thing  is  evil. 
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 MV:  Of  course.  Of  course,  he  thinks  that.  You  should  be  able  to  make  your  own  decisions. 
 Youre  17  years  old,  and  if  you  wanted  to  have  sex  with  one  of  us  you  could  do  that  legally.  We 
 could  have  sex  with  you.  And  I  think  we  should  just  because  of  her  father. 
 How  many  times  a  week  do  you  masturbate?  How  many  times? 


 FV:  Probably  about  four  or  five. 
 MV:  How  do  you  do  it? 
 FV:  Its  private. 
 MV:  Do  you  put  your  finger  in  or  do  you  move  it  around?  Do  you  use  a  vibrator?  Where  do 
 you  masturbate?  In  the  shower? 


 FV:  In  my  room,  usually. 
 MV:  How  do  you  do  it? 
 FV:  I  get  on  my  back  and  start  touching  myself. 
 MV:  How?  Its  okay.  Really,  you  can  tell  us.  Do  you  ever  touch  yourself  through  your  panties? 
 You  know,  just  on  the  outside  to  get  yourself  revved  up.  Describe  the  whole  thing.  I  want  to  hear 
 it.  Just  tell  me  little  details.  First  of  all,  tell  me,  do  you  shave? 


 FV:  Yes,  but  thats  because  my  cousin  taught  me  how  to. 
 MV:  Who  taught  you  how?  Is  it  a  female  or  a  guy? 
 FV:  Well,  she  told  me  you  kinda  have  to  because  when  guys  are  down  there  they  dont  want  to 
   so. 


 MV:  So  its  shaved  and  bald.  What  do  you  do  when  you  masturbate?  Ah,  this  is  turning  me  so 
 on.  Who  do  you  think  about? 


 FV:  I  do  it  like  under  the  water  thing. 
 MV:  In  the  bathtub?  Do  you  do  that? 
 FV:  It  was  really   
 MV:  Nice?  What  do  you  sound  like  when  you  have  an  orgasm?  Moan? 
 FV:  Hmm.  Well,  actually  quiet  so  that  my  parents  dont  hear. 
 MV:  Your  father  would  get  mad  if  he  thought  you  were  masturbating? 
 FV:  He  walked  in  on  me  one  time. 
 MV:  Oh,  God!  What  I  would  do  to  walk  in  on  you  masturbating,  no  doubt!  What  did  he  do  to 
 you? 
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 FV:  He  made  me  read  every  single  Scripture  that  . 
 MV:  What  do  you  look  like,  sweetie? 
 FV:  Tall,  thin. 
 MV:  How  much  do  you  weigh? 
 FV:  Probably  145. 
 MV:  So  what  do  the  Scriptures  say  about  masturbating? 
 FV:  He  gave  me  the  one  about  David  and  Bathsheba.  He  had  unclean  thoughts  about  her 
 bathing.  And  then  he  goes  into  the  book  of  Romans. 


 MV:  Can  I  tell  you  something  about  your  dad  real  quick,  honey?  And  I  am  going  to  be  painfully 
 honest.  Hes  been  whacking  off  since  he  was  12  years  old.  Yes  he  has.  He  does  it  every  single 
 night  whether  he  has  sex  with  your  mom  or  not.  He  thinks  about  other  women  besides  your  mom. 


 FV:  I  know  that  my  father  and  mom  still  do  because  shes  been  pregnant  recently. 
 MV:  So  he  still  masturbates.  A  guy  always  masturbates.  So  how  do  you  feel  when  we  tell  you 
 your  dad  masturbates?  Is  that  gross? 


 FV:  I  dont  want  to  think  about  that. 
 MV:  Hes  probably  twisting  them  off  in  the  bathroom  right  now. 
 Have  you  every  kissed  a  girl? 


 FV:  No. 
 MV:  Have  you  every  wanted  to? 
 FV:  Yeah. 
 MV:  When  you  are  hanging  out  with  your  girlfriends,  have  you  ever  fantasized  about  going  back 
 to  their  house  and  having  a  sleepover? 


 FV:  My  freshman  year  in  high  school  there  was  a  girl  who  told  me  she  liked  me,  and  we  were 
 going  to  have  a  sleepover  but  my  dad  met  her  . 


 MV:  That  son-  of-  a-  bitch!  That  bastard!  That  a-  hole! 
 Do  you  have  a  car? 


 FV:  On  the  weekends. 
 MV:  Tell  you  what.  Well  let  you  come  up  here,  and  well  find  a  really  attractive  woman  that 
 you  can  sleep  with. 
 Would  you  masturbate  in  front  of  us? 


 FV:  Uhm,  I  dont  know. 
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 MV:  Why  not?  Youre  17.  Thats  not  crazy!  Youre  totally  legal.  I  think  we  could  get  you  up 
 here.  I  think  we  can  get  you  to  buzz  your  beaver  in  front  of  us. 


 FV:  Ive  never  even  like  French-  kissed  a  guy. 
 MV:  Oh  well,  of  course,  well  take  care  of  that!  Well  do  that  for  the  first  time  here.  We  will 
 corrupt  you,  baby!  Hmmm.  You  wont  even  want  to  go  home  after  this.  You  know  what?  You 
 will  be  tearing  pages  out  of  your  daddys  Bible.  Youre  17.  Youll  be  smoking  them!  Youre  17. 
 Youre  legal.  You  can  do  whatever  you  want. 
 Are  you  a  little  turned  on  right  now? 


 FV:  Well,  yeah. 
 MV:  Would  you  masturbate  on  the  phone  for  us? 
 FV:  I  dont  know. 
 MV:  Just  do  it  a  little  bit.  Now,  we  are  going  to  turn  off  the  microphone  and  be  real  quiet.  We 
 want  to  hear  you  moan.  Go  ahead.  Go  ahead. 


 FV:  Im  going  to  be  embarrassed. 
 MV:  Go  ahead,  baby.  Dont  worry.  Its  kind  of  erotic.  The  mikes  are  off. 
 FV:  I  like  quietly  whimper. 
 MV:  Thats  cool.  Just  do  it,  and  were  turning  the  mikes  off  right  now. 
 FV:  Okay.  Bye-  bye. 
 Colt,  are  you  on  the  phone? 


 Boy:  Hello.  Yeah. 
 FV:  Get  off  the  phone! 
 MV:  Oh  my  God!  Hey,  Kenneth,  are  you  the  brother? 
 Boy:  Uh-  huh. 
 MV:  Do  you  ever  watch  her  at  night  while  shes  masturbating? 
 FV:  Dont  say  that! 
 Boy:  Do  what? 
 FV:  Dont  say  that!  Dont  say  that! 
 MV:  God  [bleep]  son-  of-  a-  bitch!  Whore!  [Beep]  sucker!  Shes  dogging  her  vagina  every 
 single  night  with  your  dads  flashlight! 
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 FV:  Hang  up  the  phone! 
 MV:  God  [beep]!  God  [beep]!  Youre  going  to  hell!  Youre  a  sinner!  I  cant  believe  youre 
 pregnant,  you  bitch!  Youre  a  whore! 


 FV:  Hang  up  the  phone! 
 Boy:  What  kind  of  [unintelligible]  is  this? 
 MV:  [Laughter] 
 Announcer:  Extreme  night-  time  radio  with  Kramer  and  Twitch  on  97.  1,  the  Eagle. 


 (2)  August  3,  2000  (7:  45  p.  m.  to  9:  15  p.  m.) 
 MV:  Male  Voice(  s)  (Hosts) 
 MV2:  Adult-  film  actor  (Carlos) 
 FV:  Adult-  film  actress  (Gina) 
 MV3:  Hosts  assistant  (Frat) 


 MV:  Carlos  is  on  the  way  and  porno  chicks. 
  
 MV:  We  also  have  Gina  Rider.  Shes  a  porn  star.  Shes  going  to  be  performing  at  the 
 Clubhouse. 
 9:  30  your  first  show,  right? 


 FV:  Yes,  and  midnight. 
 MV:  Youve  done  a  couple  hundred  adult  films,  almost  200.  Youre  from  San  Antonio.  Youve 
 got  a  boyfriend? 


 FV:  Nooooooooo. 
 MV:  Are  you  having  sex  with  us? 
 FV:  Who? 
 MV:  If  she  says  no,  its  a  joke.  If  she  says  yes,  lets  do  it! 
 MV:  So,  Carlos,  youre  on  the  road  all  the  time,  especially  with  this  tour.  Hows  your  sex  life? 
 MV2:  Great!  It  really  is,  dude. 
 MV:  Carlos,  I  know  you,  and  youre  so  business-  minded.  You  dont  drink.  I  bet  you  dont  bang 
 chicks  on  the  road. 


 MV2:  No,  I  dont. 
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 MV:  Do  you  have  a  girlfriend? 
 MV2:  Remember  that  tall  blonde,  thin  chick? 
 MV:  Is  she  hot? 
 MV2:  Unbelievable,  dude! 
 MV:  Is  she  Mexican? 
 MV2:  No.  Shes  a  white  girl  from  Oregon. 
 MV:  Traitor! 
 MV2:  Traitor?  What  are  you  talking  about,  dude? 
 MV:  Its  still  pink  in  the  middle. 
 MV2:  Exactly! 
 MV:  You  are  faithful  to  her? 
 MV2:  Yeah.  I  may  talk  a  lot  of  smack,  dude,  but  you  know. 
 MV:  Is  she  faithful  to  you? 
 MV2:  I  have  no  idea,  dude. 
 MV:  Wait.  Now  is  a  blow  [beep]  cheating? 
 MV2:  I  tell  her  this.  If  you  cheat  on  me,  and  its  a  mistake,  just  dont  tell  me. 
 MV:  A  mistake?  I  fell  on  a  penis.  It  slipped  and  fell  in  . 
 MV2:  If  she  slips  and  falls  into  a  pair  of  hairy  [beep].  Just  ignore  it.  I  dont  need  that  phone  call. 
 MV:  Is  she  in  town  now?  Is  she  touring  with  you? 
 MV2:  She  usually  comes.  She  took  this  week  off. 
 MV:  Are  you  coming  with  us  tonight?  Were  going  to  the  Clubhouse  tonight. 
 MV2:  Of  course.  Im  getting  in  trouble.  She  has  friends  here  who  are  listening  in  to  the  show, 
 and  I  am  going  to  get  a  phone  call. 


 MV:  Does  she  get  angry  when  you  go  to  a  boob  bar? 
 MV2:  I  dont  know.  Sometimes. 
 MV:  Is  she  jealous? 
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 MV2:  Sometimes.  But  shes  freaky,  though.  She  fulfills  those,  like,  you  know  . 
 MV:  Threesomes? 
 MV2:  She  does  some  crazy  stuff,  dude. 
 MV:  Is  she  bi?  Does  she  monge? 
 MV2:  No,  no,  no.  She  dont  do  that.  Its  hard  enough  to  please  one  chick  to  do  it  well.  Am  I 
 right?  Hard  enough  to  really  please  you  and  make  you  feel  like  .  Im  talking  about  in  real  life. 


 MV:  Youve  even  said  it  on  your  tape  before.  Why  is  it  when  a  woman  doesnt  have  an  orgasm, 
 why  is  it  my  fault?  Its  not  your  fault!  Its  not  your  fault,  Carlos.  Come  on! 


 MV2:  I  know  its  not  my  fault.  But  what  Im  saying  is  its  hard  to  please  one  woman. 
 MV:  Thats  what  the  other  bitch  is  for,  Carlos! 
 MV2:  Yeah,  but  then  the  talk  after.  Its  like  bitch  in  stereo!  Oh  my  God,  you  didnt  do  it  right! 
 And  what  about  my  left  boob?  I  would  just  kill  myself,  dude. 


 MV:  Were  going  to  talk  to  Gina  Rider.  Keep  it  on  the  Eagle. 
 [Music] 
 MV:  What  do  you  look  like,  girl?  You  are  gorgeous,  girl!  Oh  my  God!  She  sneezed  and  her 
 boobs  popped  out.  She  just  said,  Im  going  to  get  naked.  You  can  take  off  that  dress  if  you  want. 


 MV2:  Very  nice  booty,  man.  And  she  says  she  enjoys  the  back  door  action. 
 MV:  Oh,  you  do? 
 FV:  I  love  it! 
 MV:  For  the  first  time?  You  just  had  your  first  back  door? 
 FV:  No.  Ive  been  doing  it  in  my  personal  life  for  about  a  year  now.  But  I  just  did  my  first 
 scene  on  camera  like  two  months  ago.  It  was  great! 


 MV:  Were  going  to  come  back  and  see  what  happens  here  in  the  studio.  Mmm,  mmm,  mmm, 
 delicious! 


  
 MV:  Who  give  a  crap!  Frat  boy  is  in  his  boxers  right  now.  I  have  a  feeling  something  is  going 
 to  go  down  in  here.  Are  you  willing  to  get  naked,  Frat?  Take  them  off. 


 MV3:  I  am  not  getting  all  the  way  butt  naked.  I  cant  do  that. 
 MV:  None  of  us  guys  want  to  see  your  peepee.  And  shes  seen  tons  of  them.  Ive  got  one,  man. 
 Come  on! 
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 MV2:  Ill  pull  it  out  just  so  you  feel  comfortable. 
 MV:  Frat,  youll  go  and  whip  it  out  in  a  bar  and  go  and  talk  to  people  with  your  peepee  out. 
 MV3:  But  I  am  usually  like  lit,  dude,  when  I  am  doing  that. 
 MV:  Puss,  puss,  puss! 
 MV2:  Ill  pull  it  out,  and  mines  got  a  hood  on  it.  How  bad  could  yours  be? 
 MV:  [To  FV]  Cut  or  uncut,  how  do  you  like  them? 
 FV:  Ive  been  playing  with  cut,  uncut,  lately.  Ive  always  had  cut,  and  my  [beep]  buddys 
 uncut. 


 MV3:  Im  uncut,  baby!  Ive  got  a  chance! 
 MV:  I  want  to  ask  her  to  have  sex  with  me,  but  Im  not  in  front  of  you  because  youre  going  to 
 mess  it  up.  She  might  say,  Yeah.  But  you,  my  friend,  would  screw  it  up! 
 O.  K.,  so  get  naked,  Gina. 


 MV2:  Dude!  What  is  wrong  with  you,  bro? 
 MV:  I  just  dont  want  someone  that  looks  like  you  to  sleep  with  her.  Look  at  her.  She  is 
 phenomenonally  gorgeous.  It  would  hurt  my  feelings. 


 MV2:  Ah,  poor  fatso! 
 FV:  Were  all  hanging  out  tonight,  right? 
 MV:  All  right,  Gina.  Your  new  flick  is  Skin  Tight,  and  you  are  23,  and  youve  been  doing 
 porno  since  you  were  how  old? 


 FV:  21. 
 MV:  So,  will  you  demonstrate  on  Frat?  You  know,  wrestlers  have  moves  and  stuff.  Porno  stars 
 have  got  to  have  something  that  they  do  that  makes  them  special.  Frat,  get  naked! 
 Do  you  have  some  kind  of  signature  move  that  is  yours  like   
 [To  Frat]  Grab  your  ankles  and  like  take  off  your  pants.  Dont  be  a  pud!  Get  naked! 


 MV3:  Whos  going  hold  the  mike? 
 MV2:  Thats  not  your  problem,  dude.  Youre  a  big  fat  puss! 
 MV:  Youre  going  to  get  naked  in  front  of  a  porn  star. 
 MV2:  What  are  you  afraid  of?  Shes  like  a  doctor.  Shes  seen  it. 
 MV:  Gina,  how  far  would  you  go  with  Frat  in  here?  Hes  a  pretty  good  looking  guy.  Nothing 
 hes  got  is  going  to  compare  to  anything  youve  seen  before.  Nothing.  Weve  seen  it. 
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 FV:  Ive  got  to  see  what  he  looks  like. 
 MV:  Take  it  off,  Frat!  Take  it  off! 
 MV2:  Did  you  see  that  look  of  horror? 
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