# Presentation: 124444

## Report from the Young Physicists

- Ken Bloom (U. of Michigan)
- Veronique Boisvert (CERN)
- Joe Formaggio (U. of Washington)
- Ben Kilminster (U. of Rochester)
- On behalf of the young particle physicists at the LP03 Town Meeting (Monday August 11th 8-10pm)

## Thanks!

- LP03 has a record amount of ypp’s representation (~130)!
- ~ 63 Posters!
- Many prominent young speakers!
- Would like to thank and congratulate Ben Kilminster, the LP03 organizing committee and all the staff!
- Hope this initiative will become a LP tradition! (and other conference’s)

## Why a town meeting?

- We are the future!
- We need to be informed
- May be we can provide inputs
- At Snowmass 2001:
- Young Particle Physicists Forum
- Survey
- YPP organization (http://ypp.hep.net/)
- 10 Chapters with ~300 members world wide
- Chapter Activities and participation at conferences

## Ad-hoc group on HEP Demographics

- Members: Rocky Kolb, Usha Mallik, Helen Quinn, Frank Scuilli, Maury Tigner, Michael Barnett (PDG), Florencia Canelli and Stephen Richichi (YPP)
- Issues?
- Number and quality of students entering the field
- Attrition of students and postdocs
- Regular presentations at HEPAP meetings
- Group is evaluating survey possibilities

## Ypp Town Meeting: Demographics

- Over 75 attendees
- (some plots normalized to 50)
- About 7 theorists

## Globalization impact on ypp’s

- The field is exciting!
- B factories, CDF/D0, neutrinos, LHC coming up, etc...
- Wide range of topics and technical aspects
- The trend is also:
- Bigger collaborations
- More traveling
- More time to get to data
- All these have impacts on ypp
- Make the field either more or less attractive

## Globalization impact on ypp’s

- “Getting visas to US is harder now”
- Big author lists: sparked a lot of discussion
- Important thing is collaboration/internal notes
- Should they be refereed?
- “Is it hard to leave the US and come back?”
- Personal experiences seem to indicate it is not a problem for coming back as a postdoc
- It might be more of an issue for a permanent position?

## Globalization impact on ypp’s

- Long lead time to data impacts the training of ypp’s
- “A physics PhD is about pushing the boundaries of current knowledge”
- Can hardware and software projects accomplish this?
- Is Test beam/Test bed data sufficient?
- What about physics analysis on simulated data?
- Not surprisingly majority felt access to data was very important
- LHC members pointed out this was not always possible!
- Countries have different requirements (eg UK has hard cutoff after 3 years)
- Ypp’s are concerned whether this is systematically taken into account for career advancement
- Possible Solution?:
- Encourage university groups to be involved in both building and data taking experiments at the same time
- Means collaborations have to accept this

## Outreach & Funding

- In many cases existing projects/laboratories have had to balance increasing costs against decreased budgets
- NIH and NSF have seen increases over same period

- Source: AAAS 2002

## Outreach & Funding

- Some ypp’s felt it was important to get big projects or new initiatives to be budget line items to keep baseline funding stable
- Europe situation similar: new initiatives take money from university grants
- Direct impacts on ypp’s
- Government outreach:
- NIH vs DOE gap:
- Some ypp’s felt there was no point in playing one field over the other
- Point out the interplays between health sciences and particle physics!

## Outreach & Funding

- “Ultimately politicians support issues that the public is interested in”
- Some ypp’s felt the emphasis should be on public outreach
- “Professional outreach activities need resources and outreach is expensive”
- Focus on personal participation
- Visit schools, get teacher to teach about particle physics, read about new ways to teach to non-physicists
- Ypp’s recognize it’s a lot of hard work over many years: need everyone to do their part!
- YPP might focus a future town meeting on outreach

## Balancing the Field

- What is different since Snowmass01?
- Physics case for a linear collider still compelling
- German government decision
- 9/11
- Tevatron luminosity performance
- Next 5 years are crucial in securing the next 20 years
- Discussion focused on the linear collider project

## Balancing the Field: the LC

- Need to push now!
- Focus the community
- Recruit accelerator physicists
- Secure funding + international participation
- Meet the challenges for an attractive field for public and ypp’s

- Need to wait!
- “We’re driving blind”
- Field is more than about the energy frontier!
- Breadth of the field is crucial!

- About the technology decision
- Some ypp’s feel having the current committees study the issues is the right way to go
- Some ypp’s feel that issues of funding and timing might outweight scientific merit

- Important that the community stays informed!

## Balancing the Field: the LC

## Take away Messages          (my own average)

- Ypp’s love the field and the physics!
- The US is one of the leaders of HEP
- Training is dependent on groups/experiments
- Outreach to the public is important and every action counts
- Most of us want a Linear Collider and we want to see more (visible) concrete actions in this direction