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| **Affil  | **Comments on Ranking Tables**                            |
| iation** |                                                           |
+==========+===========================================================+
| *        | It is an important measure of national competitiveness    |
| *Indiana | for departments, and is used along with other measure in  |
| Un       | resource allocation decisions, recruiting, etc.           |
| iversity |                                                           |
| School   |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Me       |                                                           |
| dicine** |                                                           |
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|          | Currently the institution uses the rankings for long      |
|          | range planning (goal setting).                            |
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| *        | Indiana University is already moving toward implementing  |
| *Indiana | internal mechanisms to better represent credit for award  |
| Univ     | and therefore, elimination of these tables would have     |
| ersity** | little impact on our ability to judge the relative        |
|          | changes in our departments from year to year. However, we |
|          | would lose the ability to compare changes in our          |
|          | departments to those peer instituitons.                   |
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| **IU     | Indiana University School of Medicine uses this measure   |
| School   | to assess productivity of departments over time and in    |
| of       | comparison to each other. This measure is somewhat        |
| Me       | controversial when used in internal resource allocation   |
| dicine** | decisions, because of the PI-Takes-All nature of the NIH  |
|          | data.                                                     |
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| **Un     | There are departments within the University of California |
| iversity | that review and use NIH departmental ranking tables.      |
| of       | Nonetheless, departmental rankings are secondary in       |
| Cali     | usefulness and value to school rankings which are widely  |
| fornia** | used and often more meaningfully reflect the amount of    |
|          | NIH funding received.                                     |
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| **Nort   | 10c. Elimination of the ranking tables would change the   |
| hwestern | way institutions compare their funding, and bragging      |
| Univ     | rights, to comparable institutions. Moreover, because the |
| ersity** | designation of multiple PIs will often be optional, if an |
|          | institution elects to name multiple PIs and NIH records   |
|          | the NoA as such, the total cost apportionment for each PI |
|          | will go to their respective PIs rather than the to lead   |
|          | PI as now occurs. Because there will no longer be a       |
|          | uniform way of reporting the data, the comparative value  |
|          | of the department ranking tables will be eliminated. On   |
|          | the other hand, NU believes that credit for total cost    |
|          | dollars should go to the department where the work is     |
|          | actually being done rather than to the department of the  |
|          | lead PI as occurs now.                                    |
|          |                                                           |
|          | Institutional ranking tables will also be affected if     |
|          | linked awards are made instead of a single awards with    |
|          | associated subcontracts. The value of the ranking tables  |
|          | would particularly be affected if NIH allows optional     |
|          | arrangements for subcontracts, as does the NSF, because   |
|          | the uniformity associated with the current                |
|          | standardization would be eliminated. Refer to comments    |
|          | below. NU favors a single award in which subcontracts are |
|          | issued rather then linked awards.                         |
|          |                                                           |
|          | 10d. However, it is not likely that the level of          |
|          | information would be available on the NIH website so      |
|          | direct comparison would still not be possible.            |
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| **Un     | When measuring levels of performance, the ability to make |
| iversity | comparisons with the departments of peer institutions can |
| at       | be used as a reflection of excellence of each department. |
| Albany,  |                                                           |
| SUNY**   |                                                           |
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| **D      | Information on the comparative standing of the            |
| irector, | institution is helpful but not essential information.     |
| Office   |                                                           |
| for      | With respect to item \"d\", this information would be     |
| S        | helpful but would not address the desire to compare one's |
| ponsored | own institution with others                               |
| Pr       |                                                           |
| ograms** |                                                           |
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| **Boston | We do use the tables, but the work of Emergency Medicine  |
| Un       | is under-represented by them. For example, some of my     |
| iversity | grants go through the school of public health, and EM     |
| School   | gets no credit at all for my participation, even though   |
| of       | my main appointment is in EM. Tabulation of awards is     |
| Medicine | necessary for easy reference; lists would be too hard to  |
| and      | work with, given the number of awards from different      |
| School   | institutes and in different categories. Because EM is a   |
| of       | relatively new specialty, we really need these tables.    |
| Public   |                                                           |
| Health** |                                                           |
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| **The    | We use these tables as a metric.                          |
| Un       |                                                           |
| iversity |                                                           |
| of Texas |                                                           |
| M. D.    |                                                           |
| Anderson |                                                           |
| Cancer   |                                                           |
| Center** |                                                           |
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| **un     | departmental rankings are an important metric that        |
| iversity | provides useful management data for chairs and deans.     |
| of       | Data are useful in projecting the strengths of the        |
| Ke       | College and the University.                               |
| ntucky** |                                                           |
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| **Va     | Useful as a recruiting/advertising tool for recruiting    |
| nderbilt | faculty and trainees                                      |
| Un       |                                                           |
| iversity | It is a viable system of peer comparison                  |
| Medical  |                                                           |
| Center** | Need more flexibility of listed department names as new   |
|          | departments arise                                         |
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| **Temple | In general it would help us as we do not rank that high.  |
| Un       |                                                           |
| iversity |                                                           |
| School   |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Me       |                                                           |
| dicine** |                                                           |
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| **Emory  | Internal decisions are made based on the ranking tables.  |
| Univ     |                                                           |
| ersity** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | OUr Dean uses the departmental ranking tables as a means  |
| iversity | to monitor research productivity of individual            |
| of       | departments.                                              |
| Arkansas |                                                           |
| for      |                                                           |
| Medical  |                                                           |
| Sc       |                                                           |
| iences** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Department ranking is usually used as a gauge for         |
| iversity | prestige and research success by department chairs and    |
| of       | deans.                                                    |
| Pennsy   |                                                           |
| lvania** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Some of our collaborative yet younger departments would   |
| iversity | rise considerably.                                        |
| of       |                                                           |
| Cinc     |                                                           |
| innati** |                                                           |
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| **       | We will not be eligible for R15                           |
| Oklahoma |                                                           |
| State    |                                                           |
| Univ**   |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Departmental rankings are used by our institution in a    |
| iversity | number of ways. Clearly, this is a factor that is helpful |
| of       | in recruiting potential faculty and students since high   |
| Pitt     | rankings indicate a strong culture of research within the |
| sburgh** | institution and within a given department. Trends in      |
|          | rankings are similarly valuable for recruits, in that     |
|          | they may indicate such things as an improved culture of   |
|          | research. National ranking are also used internally to    |
|          | evaluate the performance of chairpersons of departments.  |
|          | In addition, rankings may be used to help justify         |
|          | requests to the State, to foundations, and to individuals |
|          | donors for funds to support the University and its        |
|          | schools and departments.                                  |
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| **Un     | Departments use these as benchmarking tools; as our       |
| iversity | department of Industrial and Systems engineering has      |
| of       | increasing interest in health related research we value   |
| Wis      | this type of summary                                      |
| consin-M |                                                           |
| adison** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Departmental ranking status does reflect comparative      |
| iversity | academic productivity. However, with much funding going   |
| of       | through non-departmentally based centers,                 |
| Alabama  | characterization of departmental ranking is inaccurate    |
| at       | and possibly unfair. A different methodology is           |
| Birm     | indicated.                                                |
| ingham** |                                                           |
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| **UCSF** | We are at or near the top in many fields. It would affect |
|          | our ability to advertise as such.                         |
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| **Wake   | We would need to use a different measure of our relative  |
| Forest   | success.                                                  |
| Univ     |                                                           |
| ersity** |                                                           |
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| **UN     | Our department (department of emergency medicine) is      |
| IVERSITY | located at a state medical school and does not have a     |
| OF       | significant reputation for performing rigorous research   |
| MASSAC   | of public health importance. Nonetheless, we are ranked   |
| HUSETTS; | 4th of all emergency departments in terms of NIH funds    |
| HAVARD   | received. Eliminating the departmental ranking tables     |
| MEDICAL  | would remove a significant, objective measure that sets   |
| SCHOOL** | us apart.                                                 |
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| **Oregon | This is a tool for determining scholarship productivity   |
| Health & | and is worth sustaining.                                  |
| Science  |                                                           |
| Univ     |                                                           |
| ersity** |                                                           |
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| *        | Budget allocation from the Dean                           |
| *Medical |                                                           |
| College  |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Wis      |                                                           |
| consin** |                                                           |
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| *        | They wouldn\'t be able to appropriately recognize         |
| *Medical | outstanding departments.                                  |
| College  |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Wis      |                                                           |
| consin** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Allocation of research infrastructure now goes to         |
| iversity | under-funded departments - these would be harder to       |
| of       | identify.                                                 |
| Roc      |                                                           |
| hester** |                                                           |
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|          | The department ranking tables provide one indicator of    |
|          | research activity relative to other departments and       |
|          | institutions. The department ranking tables help guide    |
|          | our institution in the allocation of resources. Exact     |
|          | dollar amounts of research awards to individual PIs are   |
|          | important data.                                           |
+----------+-----------------------------------------------------------+
| **Un     | We are using it in an attempt to improve our ranking      |
| iversity | among comparable departments. Its removal will make       |
| of New   | tracking our progress difficult or impossible. However,   |
| Mexico   | the advantage to us in maintaining the rankings is not    |
| HSC**    | huge but modest. Would have to see alternative ways of    |
|          | listing this activity to know if it would be as           |
|          | convenient.                                               |
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| *        | NIH support is used as one consideration for deciding     |
| *Brigham | upon space allocations and promotions                     |
| and      |                                                           |
| Women\'s |                                                           |
| Ho       |                                                           |
| spital** |                                                           |
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| **Univ.  | My institution unofficially uses ranking tables. If a     |
| of       | department places in a high position, it serves as an     |
| T        | argument to the administration to provide strong support  |
| ennessee | to continue the success. So the tables are used more for  |
| Health   | \'bragging\' rights and public relations, but it does     |
| Science  | help to objectively distinguish strong departments from   |
| Center** | weaker ones. As for the question below this one, that     |
|          | type of list would be useful for other reasons so I would |
|          | encourage you to supply that to the institution. But it   |
|          | won\'t show the standing at the national level.           |
+----------+-----------------------------------------------------------+
| **Un     | Ranking of departments indirectly affects the negotiating |
| iversity | position of a department when resources are allocated.    |
| of Utah, |                                                           |
| Dep      |                                                           |
| artments |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Bioeng   |                                                           |
| ineering |                                                           |
| and      |                                                           |
| Internal |                                                           |
| Me       |                                                           |
| dicine** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | I think they are used mostly for recruiting.              |
| iversity |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Cinc     |                                                           |
| innati** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | It may hamper the department to receive more funds from   |
| iversity | the parent institution, if there is no available          |
| of New   | comparison to other departments in similar institutions.  |
| Mexico** |                                                           |
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|          | Department chairs are evaluated by the position their     |
|          | departments hold in these tables. Actually it might be    |
|          | better to evaluate them using more relevant criteria.     |
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| **UN     | Could influence the national rankings of each department, |
| C-Chapel | which could influence recruitment of trainees and faculty |
| Hill**   | to those departments.                                     |
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| **Un     | A major goal of the President of the University of        |
| iversity | Kentucky is that the university rank in the \"top 20\".   |
| of       | These numbers are critical for determining our milestones |
| Ke       | and procuring support from our state government.          |
| ntucky** |                                                           |
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| **M      | Our institution uses these to aid in planning,            |
| edicine, | forecasting, and budgetting (of space, faculty lines, and |
| Columbia | money)                                                    |
| Univ     |                                                           |
| ersity** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | These are used for planing and understanding our place in |
| iversity | the world.                                                |
| of       |                                                           |
| Cinc     |                                                           |
| innati** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | The ranking system is used to evaluate relative program   |
| iversity | quality. Eliminating this system would therefore make it  |
| of       | difficult to compare programs.                            |
| Conne    |                                                           |
| cticut** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | We use it to represent our stature as a research          |
| iversity | institution.                                              |
| of       |                                                           |
| Iowa**   |                                                           |
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|          | It is used at the University level to determine which     |
|          | departments are productive, and should receive additional |
|          | space/funding.                                            |
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| **       | Our department is currently ranked 9th for med. school    |
| Oklahoma | microbiology departments; particularly due to our         |
| Un       | geographic location, this is an important statistic that  |
| iversity | is used in a variety of ways by our department chair, our |
| Health   | Dean, and Provost.                                        |
| Sciences |                                                           |
| Center** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Internal reviews by the Dean, Provost, and President use  |
| iversity | these figures to identify the strengths of the department |
| of       | and to assist in deciding apportionment of University     |
| Roc      | resources. There is not an easy substitute.               |
| hester** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | It would make recruitment of graduate students more       |
| iversity | difficult, as students make their decisions of where to   |
| of Texas | matriculate by these rankings.                            |
| at       |                                                           |
| Austin** |                                                           |
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| **Wake   | My institution has used the departmental rankings to      |
| Forest   | inform discussions related to allocation of basic dollars |
| Un       | and to identify areas in which to invest research         |
| iversity | dollars.                                                  |
| Health   |                                                           |
| Sc       |                                                           |
| iences** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | The tables inspire action in our research process. The    |
| iversity | salary benefit certainly does not drive research. Very    |
| of South | often salary is compromised in the budget for the sake of |
| F        | the research. However, the competitive nature of the      |
| lorida** | ranking can be very motivating. Academia always strives   |
|          | to be the best.                                           |
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| **Un     | A metric, which is considered important by the            |
| iversity | administration, of how the department is ranked with      |
| of Texas | respect to it\'s peers nationally would be lost.          |
| Medical  |                                                           |
| Branch** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | My institution uses the departmental ranking tables for   |
| iversity | evaluating departments and the institution as a whole and |
| of       | would therefore be affected. These rankings are however   |
| Roc      | often badly misinterpreted in my opinion and I would be   |
| hester** | happy if they were to go away. Regarding question (d) I   |
|          | don\'t know if such lists would satisfy my institution,   |
|          | but I think they are a great idea.                        |
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| **Un     | It is one measure by which we can compare ourselves to    |
| iversity | other similar departments or schools in terms of our      |
| of Texas | research success. Though certainly not the only measure   |
| Medical  | that should be used, it remains a valuable tool.          |
| Branch** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | UF uses the rankings as benchmarks to other institutions  |
| iversity | and to determine the relative position of a department in |
| of       | the field/college                                         |
| F        |                                                           |
| lorida** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | we use it as a benchmark, and goals for the future        |
| iversity |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Hawaii   |                                                           |
| School   |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Me       |                                                           |
| dicine** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | I believe it would be generally beneficial for less       |
| iversity | emphasis to be placed on the dollar amounts as compared   |
| of       | to the number of awards and the quality of the science.   |
| Utah**   |                                                           |
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| **Un     | We use the ranking tables for marketing, funding raising  |
| iversity | and recruiting                                            |
| of       |                                                           |
| Pennsy   |                                                           |
| lvania** |                                                           |
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| *        | It is used as a benchmark of research productivity.       |
| *Charles |                                                           |
| R Drew   |                                                           |
| Univ     |                                                           |
| ersity** |                                                           |
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| **Wa     | The institution is concerned about ranking for public     |
| shington | relations reasons. Most ranking discussions come down to  |
| Un       | \" bragging rights\" and, in my opinion, sre not          |
| iversity | substantive.                                              |
| in St.   |                                                           |
| Louis**  |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Facilities and other forms of support are directly        |
| iversity | effected by the number of NIH grants and indirect costs   |
| of       | awarded to Departments.                                   |
| Cal      |                                                           |
| ifornia, |                                                           |
| San      |                                                           |
| Diego**  |                                                           |
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| **Oregon | The rise of OHSU\'s Otolaryngology in obtaining NIH       |
| Health & | grants has greatly enhanced our group in the eyes of the  |
| Science  | OHSU administration, making available space and resources |
| Univ     | that have been very beneficial. Without an objective      |
| ersity** | tracking of ranking, it will be hard to make the case     |
|          | that we are doing well.                                   |
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| **New    | The rankings are helpful information for tracking         |
| York     | progress and recruiting faculty and students.             |
| Univ     |                                                           |
| ersity** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | These tables serve as one objective measure of            |
| iversity | institutional and departmental success, relative to the   |
| of Texas | goal of building extramurally funded research programs.   |
| Medical  | Misuse of the information occurs only rarely. For         |
| Branch** | example, if a department is awarded a huge grant in terms |
|          | of dollar amount yet has little depth insofar as          |
|          | cultivating a large number independent faculty members    |
|          | with smaller projects, the numbers hide the fact that     |
|          | such a department is lacking depth; the dollar ranking    |
|          | generally inflates the appearance of success of such a    |
|          | department. The number of independent investigators is a  |
|          | much more robust measure of how a department stands up to |
|          | its peers.                                                |
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| **Univ   | Our success in the rankings is a source of pride and      |
| of IL at | informal power within the organization, which values      |
| C        | funded research. It also allows us to benchmark our       |
| hicago** | progess with other departments nationwide. This benefit   |
|          | is so very valuable.                                      |
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| **Univ.  | I think the tables are highly abusable:                   |
| of       |                                                           |
| Roc      | 1\. They do not include size (divide by N), and therefore |
| hester** | hold little overall meaning as to the performance of a    |
|          | Dept., rewarding large numbers of faculty and therefore   |
|          | large total awards.                                       |
|          |                                                           |
|          | 2\. Titles of groupings are limited and avoid comparisons |
|          | including eclectic depts and centers.                     |
|          |                                                           |
|          | 3\. Depts. with combined titles pool totals and then must |
|          | choose a cohort for comparison without proportional       |
|          | distributions for each component of such depts.           |
|          |                                                           |
|          | 4\. The rankings are highly abusable given these and      |
|          | other limitations and qualifieirs.                        |
|          |                                                           |
|          | 5\. Institutions keep record of PIs and their awards, NIH |
|          | and other. National efforts to compare groupings of       |
|          | faculty might be useful if done more equitably and        |
|          | meaningfully.                                             |
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| **Un     | One simple consequence would be the annual World New and  |
| iversity | Reports Ranking of medical institutions. This will not    |
| of       | only have immediate effects in terms of faculty           |
| R        | recruitment but may have public health consequences as    |
| Ochester | well                                                      |
| School   |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Me       |                                                           |
| dicine** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | I just moved from WU to UAMS and I know that in both      |
| iversity | places the Deans use the tables to evaluate the research  |
| of       | component of departmental performance. Yearly %           |
| Arkansas | increases/decreases would be hard to judge is funds are   |
| for      | not carefully \"separate\" between PIs from different     |
| Medical  | departments.                                              |
| Sc       |                                                           |
| iences** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | The University of Michigan\'s Department of Internal      |
| iversity | Medicine, of which I am a faculty member, sees its        |
| of       | progress in terms of NIH ranking for grants. The Medical  |
| Mi       | School and the University use these rankings as metrics   |
| chigan** | for our success. Thus, the elimination of these tables,   |
|          | to my view, would be a positive because the               |
|          | administration would begin to focus upon the faculty\'s   |
|          | progress and needs rather than constantly comparing our   |
|          | Department/School against others.                         |
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| **Un     | Possible. UW is fairly high on the list.                  |
| iversity |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Wash     |                                                           |
| ington** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Reduced awareness of academic performance.                |
| iversity |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Arkansas |                                                           |
| for      |                                                           |
| Medical  |                                                           |
| Sc       |                                                           |
| iences** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | My understanding is that the institution makes use of the |
| iversity | ranking tables to recruit faculty and donors. I percieve  |
| of       | that the rankings are also used, in part, to rate         |
| C        | hospital or medical school quality and services. They may |
| hicago** | also serve as a benchmark for trustees. So, I believe     |
|          | that the institution will be affected in that it would    |
|          | have to adapt if the ranking tables were eliminated.      |
|          | However, since this would affect all institutions, this   |
|          | may be beneficial. RE: 10d) I think so, yes, but I do not |
|          | intend to speak on behalf of the institution.             |
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| **Un     | The tables are used for strategic planning.               |
| iversity |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| R        |                                                           |
| ochester |                                                           |
| Medical  |                                                           |
| Center** |                                                           |
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| **Valley | I\'m assuming if I did something in conjunction with UTPA |
| Psych    | that it would affect them; but I don\'t know how.         |
| ological |                                                           |
| S        |                                                           |
| ervices, |                                                           |
| P.C      |                                                           |
| ./TPA/RG |                                                           |
| VMHC/APA |                                                           |
| \[D      |                                                           |
| iv38\]** |                                                           |
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| **Univ.  | We use these rankings as a \"national\" survey of         |
| of       | \"apparent\" quality.                                     |
| Cal      |                                                           |
| ifornia, |                                                           |
| San      |                                                           |
| Diego**  |                                                           |
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| *        | My institution would look for another metric to gauge     |
| *Indiana | funding productivity.                                     |
| Univ     |                                                           |
| ersity** |                                                           |
+----------+-----------------------------------------------------------+
| **Univ   | only in bragging rights and discussions. nothing concrete |
| Pitt     |                                                           |
| sburgh** |                                                           |
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| *        | I am retired and do not know what is currently in use.    |
| *Retired | However, one of my former institutions did use this       |
| from     | information.                                              |
| Aca      |                                                           |
| demics** |                                                           |
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| **Duke   | Actually, I don\'t care if it affects the institution. If |
| Univ     | this is a/the price for recognition of mulitiple PI\'s it |
| ersity** | is well worth it.                                         |
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| **Johns  | Departmental ranking tables are used as a way to compare  |
| Hopkins  | to other institutions, for recruitment, etc. I believe it |
| Univ     | would adversely affect recruitment and the prestige of    |
| ersity** | the institution.                                          |
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| **       | 1st and foremost :                                        |
| Columbia |                                                           |
| Univ     | NIH \$ in = square feet allowed/PI                        |
| ersity** |                                                           |
|          | the formulation is based on NIH dollars ONLY (and Hughes) |
|          |                                                           |
|          | also used in promotion assessment                         |
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| **UNC    | Ranking is a fact of life. Leaving out NIG ranking would  |
| Chapel   | leave only soft indicators and heresy. This will          |
| Hill**   | negatively affect of postdoc, faculty and graduate        |
|          | student recruiting efforts.                               |
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| **Un     | Grant funding plays a role in allocation of institutional |
| iversity | facilities and resources within a department. Other       |
| of       | criteria will have to be developed for allocation.        |
| Southern |                                                           |
| Cali     |                                                           |
| fornia** |                                                           |
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| **Albany | For a free-standing private medical school likes ours     |
| Medical  | which has little NIH funding on the clinical side, the    |
| C        | departmental rankings provide the institution with an     |
| ollege** | assessment of how our basic science departments research  |
|          | effort compares on a national level. It would help if the |
|          | dept affiliation listed on the rankings were updates at   |
|          | renewal rather than only for new grants.                  |
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| **Un     | I manage a Department of Medicinal Chemistry and          |
| iversity | Pharmacognosy in a College of Pharmacy. It would be very  |
| of       | helpful if Pharmacy rankings were posted. I refer to the  |
| Illinois | Medicine rankings for certain purposes.                   |
| at       |                                                           |
| C        |                                                           |
| hicago** |                                                           |
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| **Purdue | I would think distribution of indirect costs for          |
| Univ     | administrative and other services would be made more      |
| ersity** | difficult. Institutions need a way of determining easily  |
|          | what departments are attracting grant support and how     |
|          | much they are attracting.                                 |
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| **Univ.  | My chair fixates on the departmental ranking tables.      |
| A        | While that seems obsessive, it seems even more            |
| labama - | inappropriate that a faculty person who has a             |
| Birm     | multi-investigator grant would have his/her department    |
| ingham** | solely credited with the contributions of other           |
|          | investigators.                                            |
|          |                                                           |
|          | The solution is simple \-- the proportion of the bottom   |
|          | line funding the part of a grant written by a project PI  |
|          | (or equivalent) should be credited to the                 |
|          | person/department of the project PI.                      |
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| **LSU    | b\) Although there is a potential use for the             |
| Health   | departmental ranking data, I do not think that we would   |
| Sciences | be terribly hurt to not have the rankings.                |
| Center** |                                                           |
|          | c\) The Departmental tables are used by our institution.  |
|          | We look at them to assess research productivity and the   |
|          | trajectory of a department's research programs.           |
|          |                                                           |
|          | d\) Would lists of awards with their associated PIs and   |
|          | their institutional and departmental affiliations satisfy |
|          | your institution\'s need for information about NIH awards |
|          | attributable to specific departments? y/n This would      |
|          | depend on the way the information was presented. If the   |
|          | award amounts are listed, it might lead to double         |
|          | counting of grant funding by the departments. Let's say   |
|          | that there was a joint grant between MIP and Physiology   |
|          | listed with the investigators names with funding of       |
|          | \$300,000. This would not give any information regarding  |
|          | apportionment. Each of the departments could potentially  |
|          | list their departmental support from this grant as        |
|          | \$300K. As long as the costs are not shown on the table,  |
|          | I do not think there would be a problem. Alternatively,   |
|          | NIH apportioning the grant support would also be          |
|          | acceptable.                                               |
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| **Un     | These ranking tables allow a comparison in terms of space |
| iversity | and research effort among institutions. This facilitates  |
| of Miami | the research effort.                                      |
| School   |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Me       |                                                           |
| dicine** |                                                           |
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| **Baylor | I suspect the overall departmental randing will be        |
| College  | reduced because much less money will be assigned to our   |
| of       | institution from other locations.                         |
| Me       |                                                           |
| dicine** |                                                           |
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| **Un     | Several of our Departments do well, and this helps us in  |
| iversity | philanthropy and recruiting.                              |
| of       |                                                           |
| Vi       |                                                           |
| rginia** |                                                           |
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| **Sc     | It would negatively effect our ability to attract top     |
| ientific | faculty and graduate students.                            |
| C        |                                                           |
| omputing |                                                           |
| and      |                                                           |
| Imaging  |                                                           |
| In       |                                                           |
| stitute, |                                                           |
| Un       |                                                           |
| iversity |                                                           |
| of       |                                                           |
| Utah**   |                                                           |
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| **Univ.  | they would be less motivated to support research to       |
| Texas**  | maintain or improve ranking.                              |
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| **Un     | The departmental ranking is the primary venue for         |
| iversity | evaluation and comparisons of departmental programs.      |
| of       |                                                           |
| F        |                                                           |
| lorida** |                                                           |
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| **S      | Dump the ranking tables. They don\'t serve a scientific   |
| cripps** | purpose which should be the single mission of NIH.        |
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| **H      | an important benchmark of funding success would be lost   |
| arvard - |                                                           |
| BIDMC**  |                                                           |
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