**[Question 1 BREAKOUT GROUP 5B (Flip chart)]{.underline}**

**INDUSTRY SEGMENTS**

[Ingredients]{.underline}

-   State feed regulatory programs

-   APPI -- Animal Protein Processors Industry Renderers animal
    protein.org

-   World Renderers Association -- Don Franco

-   AFIA -- American Feed Industry Association Guidelines for Ingredient
    Quality Assurance - Richard Sellers

-   Sorptive -- Dioxin Reduction Program

-   NOPA -- Oilseed Dave Ailor nopa.org

-   AAFCO BMP's -- Voluntary aafco.org

-   AIB Certification -- American Institute of Banking aib.org

-   FCI -- Facility Certification Institute
    [www.fci.com](http://www.fci.com/)

[Transportation]{.underline}

Ingredient

Safe Food Transportation At of 1990

Certified Transport Program -- online FCI
[www.certifiedfacility.org](http://www.certifiedfacility.org/)

No real rules apply

Enforcement/Rules re:transportation/Clean out

[Feed]{.underline}

No real rules apply

[Non-Medicated Feed]{.underline}

Formulated Feed

Food Species --

nothing

Non-Food Species --

nothing

[On-Farm]{.underline} --

Ruminant --

nothing

Non-Ruminant --

No official rules/no enforcement

[Medicated Feed]{.underline}

1.  Licensed -- enforced official guidelines

> 21CFR225
>
> 2\. Non-Licensed -- not-enforced guidelines

AAFCO -- website

Kansas State University -- Dr. Tim Herman

NGFA -- National Grain & Feed

AFIA

PQA -- Pork Quality Assurance, BQA, etc...

California/Nevada/Montana -- On-Farm Inspection Authority (BSE only)

California -- Education Program

**[Question 3]{.underline}**

3.  Benefits of having a Federal Animal Feed Safety System?

-   Establish official bar for all segments of feed industry

-   Level playing field applicable to everyone

-   Meet international standards, increased likelihood of trade

-   Less 13% feed fed today is regulated

-   Different programs with no common bar standards

-   Need reasonable risk based standard

-   Refocus resources -- proactive approach vs. reactive focus on end
    product

-   Duplication of efforts/Failure to share information -- States

> BENEFIT -- Networking & cooperation with AFSS

-   Possibility of regional laboratory programs

-   South Carolina -- legally changed program/currently under way

-   Companies save money, increased consumer confidence, food safety

-   Holistic approach to feed safety/food safety issues

-   Consumer confidence in food supply

-   Possibility of rapid repercussions -- better compliance

-   [Must]{.underline} include on-farm

**[Question 4]{.underline}**

4a. How much of this as a firm are you now doing?

a.1. Are you seeing this during inspections?

\[How much\]

-   Spans one end of spectrum to the other - depends upon segment of
    industry

-   FDA -- service samples

-   States vary in authority, laboratory capabilities

-   Not necessarily all record keeping, other assurances to verify
    critical control methods

Challenges

-   Are records appropriate for type of business?

-   Are there incentives for companies to establish appropriate
    guidelines/assurances?

-   Risk-based assurances appropriate to business define risks, need
    measurement tools

-   Risk Identification -- Science based

-   Measurement Tools

> Challenges/obstacles faced

4b. Formal?

Informal?

[Record Keeping]{.underline}

Depends upon the segment of industry

BMP's -- Voluntary guidelines

Transportation -- need for rule making

4c.

c.1 Training?

c.2 What kind?

c.3 How often?

Both Industry & Government

4d. Involve new purchase?

Both Industry & Government

Software?

Equipment?

4e. Costs?

Both Industry & Government

Shift of resources to feed safety/national program

Federally mandated unfunded program?

4f. what kind of Assurances would you need to establish?

f.1 - need a consultant?

f.2 - need a third party?

f.3 - on-going sampling program?

> f.4 - how would federal licensing/registration of all firms help?
> Generates revenue

Brings entity under federal regulation

Triggers mandatory inspection

Identifies entities -- have access to firms

Process control

Bioterrorism -- Feed Safety? How do they relate?

4g. Current enforcement tools adequate?

States

Tools are beyond adequate, yet they are not used by must states

(Stop sales, license withdrawal, injunction)

Enforcement (federal) focused on a few licensed mills

No GMP's for ingredient manufacturer

States do not insect on farm

California/Arizona aflatoxin certification programs

Some states have ingredient inspection programs

Consent decrees -- diaries

Purchasing agreements/contracts

Inadequate commingling prevention plans at multi-species facilities
renderers

GBR Risk Assessment -- model

Reasonable quick tests for DON. Aflatoxin, fumonisin

FDA philosophy vs. state & industry philosophy inclusion in the rule
making process

**[Question 5]{.underline}**

5\. Additional thoughts or Comments?

What is an acceptable risk -- short term/long term?

Import notification

Traceability -- not just for food safety

Need representation from ingredient manufacturer, renderers

Focus meetings toward specific industries -- industry break out sessions

Critical need for industry in put from lowest level

Assemble scientist to determine feed risk assessment and determine
hazards

Necessity for rapid assays and analysis