OTHER PROPOSED SUB-GROUPS

Strategic partnerships for Spaceport Technology Development

Measuring impact/effectiveness of ASTWG

Advisory Board

Safety

International ? interface

Mission planning and operations

Market

-   Data gathering on Shuttle & ELV's

-   User requirements -- esp. future

Funding technologies development

Spaceport development in states other than Florida and CA.

Research projects

# OTHERS TO INVITE

DoD/DoE/FAA research labs (especially on technology)

AF labs

University researchers, e.g. STTR investigators

Educators

DDESB, Space Command, Safety groups in Q/D Explosive Siting Approval
loop.

Power people in the entertainment business (Tom Hanks)

Global partners

Tourism people (Disney, State Parks, etc.)

Mr. Tony Williams, Booz Allen & Hamilton, Colo Springs 719 570 3109

Mr. Paul Klock, 30^th^ SW/XR

Mr. Orlando Sevgro, CEO Space Launch Systems, International 805 733 9370

More AF Research Lab involvement -- reusable military space plane/space
operations vehicle have significant overlap of technology needs and may
have \$\$ soon!

Dave Walsh @ United Paradyne Corp. (321) 799-3038

Academic Development Commission, K-12 system, all State universities

Florida Space Industry Committee (FSIC). I am the current Chairman.
Chris Rodgers provides administrative support.

Emerging launch companies.

New space-based business (i.e. Bigelow Aerospace)

-   More technical reps (primarily for subgroup
    participation-technology)

-   More small, new start vehicle companies to address their technology
    needs (may be quite different form existing, big companies)

Andy Prince, MSFC ECO

Mike Nix, MSFC TD (Transportation Directorate)

Doug Morris, LaRC VAB (Vehicle Analysis Branch)

Congressional staffer (as a speaker)

We can not properly answer the question until we find out who's here.

Legal (NASA, AF, other?)

AFRL/VS (Space Vehicles Directorate of Air Force Research Lab)

Sandia Nat'l Lab

Ultimate Customers - Payloaders

Dan Berlinrut,

Carlton Hall,

Barbara Brown

# ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED AT NEXT ASTWG MEETINGS

1-Charter approval & adoption

2-Policy issues-Description & position

3-Top 5-10 technology issues & requirements

-group composition

-focus and action plans

-communication & reporting channels

Roadmaps/schedules/charters for each ASTWG committee

Inventory existing groups and avoid duplication.

Ask others (other than KSC & HQ) to present their views, needs, and
ideas.

Create a "theme" for each meeting, then ask members if they would like a
20-30 minute slot on the agenda to address their view of the theme.

Examination of Spaceport business case(s) -- invite the states to
present.

Define objectives & goals; maintain a "generic" capability

-   Design for future as well as near term

-   Identification of users!!!

-   Design, develop, deliver, demonstrate

Propulsion technology should be a priority for this group.

1.  Planned or potential NRA's and RFP's

2.  Safety standards existing and under development and their impact on
    Spaceport design

3.  Policy initiatives and planned legislation

    1.  Getting local authority for Explosive Siting and realizing we
        are the experts for rocket propulsion systems, not necessarily
        the DDESD, Space Command,... Start by realizing the differences
        between military explosive handling and launch processing. NASA
        doesn't want to "pull a fast one", we need "reasonableness".

    2.  Getting Process Engineering, Supportability, Maintainability,
        Ground Processing lessons learned into spacecraft design and
        flight hardware processing metrics feedback requirements so
        flight centers require ground data feedback for design
        enhancements that would cut ground time & costs.

    3.  To help unify America (vs. Agenda/Rice Bowls), I think we need a
        global plan. We should start with Spaceports in America,
        England, & Australia (or similar 3 points on earth) for people
        to travel to.

    4.  Consider promoting polygeneration facilities for Spaceports.
        Could help us and the energy situation.

    5.  Maybe we should make "Spacewine" for a source of funding!

    6.  Six years to license!! There goes the Spaceporthood in the USA!!
        Kidding aside, we need new paradigms-6 year licensing doesn't
        make it safer.

    7.  What about better communications for ASTWG being one of the
        technologies we develop?

I would like to see ASTWG address issues associated with reentry sites.

Alternative uses of shuttle to expand access to space. One example is a
"people carrier" in the payload bay.

1)  Data rights. This will be a big issue for 2GRLV contractors, and
    companies involved in spaceport technology development in general.

2)  Consider merging ARTWG & ASTWG, due to a high degree of commonality
    in participants!

-   Establishment of subgroups (including charters, issues to address,
    etc.)

-   Status on subgroups

-   Technology Focus Subgroups (may need to include [more]{.underline}
    areas than KSC has identified) -- don't limit subgroups

Stimulation of new markets for space access

Spaceport development in the U.S. It currently appears that NASA is
focusing only on CA & FL

\- 2^nd^/3^rd^ Generation RLV Requirements of a Spaceport

More detailed program ("customer") information -- POC's, goals,
requirements, etc.

Separate technical focus subgroups by discipline?

Legislation

-   What it is, what it says

-   Reality

Spaceport technology related subjects [only]{.underline}.

Spaceport development is states other than Florida and CA.

What is NASA's plan? Or does NASA only plan on with the Florida launch
site? This needs to be answered so the 14 members of the NCSS can decide
if they will continue to participate in the ASTWG process.

-   Charter

-   Organization (sub-groups, etc.)

More time for discussion!!!

1)  Commonality on the ground, i.e., multi-vehicle service.

2)  Technology transfer from other industries so we don't have to invent
    every technology advancement.

Cryogenics and cryogenic propellants

-information management systems & database needs

-spaceport management approaches

-spaceport operational approaches

-intraspaceport transportation systems

-intraspaceport communication systems

Technology Development

Research and Development

New Programs/Diversity

Professional Society Support (AIAA for Publicity)

The "One-Stop-Shop" concept in the Joint Planning and Customer Service
Office.

# PREFERRED MEETING LOCATIONS

Alaska

VAFB

Nov-Jan / annual @ KSC

May-Jul / annual @ state/other launch areas/tech areas

KSC

Meet in conjunction with large national space conferences -- NSS, ISOC,
etc. (call me for a full list)

Florida is always a good place to meet too.

KSC -- KSC is the world leader in Spaceport tech. It makes sense to hold
the meetings at KSC. As a secondary location, Vandenberg makes sense
(Calif.)

KSC

KSC

VAFB, Wallops, Edwards

CCAFS

KSC/CCAS preferred

KSC is fine

MSFC, KSC, Wallops, Vandenberg

KSC plus rotate to interesting/convenient sites

Other existing "Spaceports"

1)  Vandenberg AFB, CA

2)  Wallops Island, VA

KSC

Johnson Space Center -- Texas

Washington, D.C.

Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Utah

KSC (with ARTWG)

KSC is great! MSFC would also be logical.

Washington, D.C. (in conjunction with timeframe of other meetings e.g.
COMSTAC)

KSC is best for efficiency.

KSC

KSC

Have industry sponsored or hosted meeting, possibly the new ELV facility
in AL.

KSC

Rotate: KSC, MSFC, SSC, JSC

Various members homesites

No preference

-KSC

-PAFB

-off base/Cape Canaveral (i.e., Radisson)

Rotate to various member locations, as acceptable

# OTHER COMMENTS

Good job! Good start in KSC's journey to STC.

Need to agree on a focus & goal ASAP in order to focus the activities.

Very good meeting...enjoyed it!

I suggest you do not have a center "speakers table". It strongly
discourages participation from people with less aggressive personalities
-- and [those]{.underline} are the ones you need to hear from! Arrange
the room so everyone is equal. You'll get more questions, more
discussion, more interaction.

Great session!

Great Kick-Off! Very informative.

Great! Whatever I need to do.

1)  Consider mission planning/ops/preparation as another operations
    cost-driving "technology", although it does not need to physically
    occur at a spaceport.

2)  Be sure to include processes, and not just technology, as ways of
    enhancing spaceport operations & costs.

ASTWG should be a forum to discuss (higher level) progress of subgroups;
otherwise, topics covered is too broad for meaningful work

Good start, much work ahead!

My primary interests involve utilization of the SBIR/STTR resources more
effectively/efficiently to serve as a funding source for Spaceport
Technology Development.

Good start! Lets keeping working with this program, and broading its
reach to encompass all spaceport states and not just Florida.

Great meeting! Great idea!

The kickoff meeting was an excellent beginning to the tasks ahead.