#### Teleconference Information: VCDE WS Teleconference

Thurs., May 31st, 1-3 PM, ET\
Moderators: Michael Keller

#### Meeting Summary

#### The VCDE WS will continue discussion and decide upon recommendations from the small group "ConceptIDs on caGrid" regarding vocabulary services on the caGrid. VCDE WS will hear update from the "Guides to Mentors" group and the "CDE Leadership Group". There will also be a final report out on the caIntegrator Compatibility review.

#### Meeting Materials:

The presentation for ConceptID on caGrid is at the Gforge site:

[[https://gforge.nci.nih.gov/projects/grid-conceptid/]{.underline}](https://gforge.nci.nih.gov/projects/grid-conceptid/)

[[https://gforge.nci.nih.gov/docman/view.php/306/6562/Concept%20Identification%20in%20UK%20CancerGrid%20and%20%20caBIG_final.ppt]{.underline}](https://gforge.nci.nih.gov/docman/view.php/306/6562/Concept Identification in UK CancerGrid and  caBIG_final.ppt)

 

There is a GForge site for the \"Guides to CDE Reviews/CDE Leadership
Group\" at:

[[https://gforge.nci.nih.gov/projects/cdeguides/]{.underline}](https://gforge.nci.nih.gov/projects/cdeguides/)

The caIntegrator final review documents and presentation can be found
at:

<https://gforge.nci.nih.gov/frs/download.php/1963/20070531_caIntegrator_Final_Compatibility_Reports.zip>

**Action Items**

+------------+-------------------------------------------------+-------+
| #### A     | #### Description                                | ###   |
| ssigned To |                                                 | # Due |
|            |                                                 |  Date |
+------------+-------------------------------------------------+-------+
| #### Th    | Take the feedback from the VCDE WS to develop a | ##    |
| e Mentor G | recommendation to address synonymy between UML  | ## On |
| uide group | descriptions and the concept used to annotate   | going |
|            | the model.                                      |       |
+------------+-------------------------------------------------+-------+
| #### M     | #### Identify caGrid team membe                 | ###   |
| ike Keller | r to participate in the Concept ID on caGrid WG | # 6/8 |
+------------+-------------------------------------------------+-------+
| ####       | ####                                            | ####  |
+------------+-------------------------------------------------+-------+

#### Attendees

  -------------------------------------- --------------------------------
  Quan Chen                              Albert Einstein

  Xin Zheng                              Albert Einstein

  Hemant Shah                            City of Hope

  Sal Mungal                             Duke University

  Baris Suzek                            Georgetown University

  Grace Stafford                         Jackson Lab

  Jim Buntrock                           Mayo

  Bob Freimuth                           Mayo

  Mike Riben                             MD-Anderson

  Stuart Turner                          UC-Davis

  Gordon Okimoto                         University of Hawaii

  Chunhua Weng                           University of Pittsburgh

  Lewis Frey                             University of Utah

  Rakesh Nagarajan                       Washington University

  George Joseph                          Washington University

  Mukesh Sharma                          Washington University

  David Aronow                           GulfStream Bioinformatics

  Kristel Hackett                        GulfStream Bioinformatics

  George Komatsoulis                     NCICBIIT

  Frank Hartel                           NCICBIIT

  Tommie Curtis                          SAIC

  Janice Chilli                          SAIC

  Mary Cooper                            SAIC

  Brian Campbell                         EMMES

  Mary McAdams                           IMS

  Jennifer Stevens                       IMS

  Shelly Niwah                           Westat

  Bill Richardson                        Westat

  Heather Buck                           

  John White                             

  Mike Loomis                            
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#### Agenda/Meeting Notes

-   Final report out on the caIntegrator Silver Compatibility
    Review---Rakesh Nagarajan and George Joseph (15 min)

    -   Rakesh presented the final compatibility report (see link
        above).

    -   VCDE WS APPROVED caIntegrator for the semantic portion of the
        review

-   Guide to CDE reviews update--Rakesh Nagarajan (15 min)

    -   The Guides to CDE review is not just focused on CDE review but
        also the steps we are taking toward model harmonization

-   **Guide to Mentors update** -- Sal Mungal, Lewis Frey and Bob
    Freimuth (10 mins)

    -   Discussion was had on synonymy between UML definitions and the
        concepts that the model is annotated with.

    -   CDE workflow status may be used to generate a quantifiable
        percentage of "good"CDEs (Project can pass with "bad" CDEs but
        the CDE workflow status is not changed)

    -   Questions were raised around the tolerance level of production
        CDEs with a comparison of silver approved vs. gold approved CDEs

    -   It was noted that the EVS team has extensive interactions with
        developers when annotating a model to make sure they are mapping
        the UML description to the appropriate concept. We do not want
        the reviewers to have to have that same intensive conversation

    -   The Mentor Guide group needs to take this feedback and develop a
        recommendation to address this issue and bring it back to the WS

-   Continuation of concept ID on caGrid -- Jim Buntrock (45 mins)

    -   Jim Buntrock gave an updated presentation on Concept IDs on
        caGrid based on input from the VCDE and Arch WS

    -   Discussion occurred around specifying how terminologies are
        described.

        -   Essentially both caGrid and CancerGrid can put in the
            authority (or owner or publisher) of a given resource

    -   Based on input from the XCWS, the following questions have been
        raised:

        -   HL7 Messaging Compatibility?

        -   URN Mechanism without a specified resolution mechanism?

        -   Background vetting on handle adoption for caGrid
            (www.handle.net)?

        -   Semantic equivalence across communities (How will it
            happen?)

        -   Metadata classes scope with caDSR?

    -   The group will begin meeting again to resolve these issues.
        Additionally, they have requested a caGrid team member to
        participate in this group to resolve the questions above

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