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| 1 | Working to develop a state-based Spaceport. Working with fed     |
|   | agencies & Congress on policy.                                   |
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| 2 | Team needs to pull in more technology from those outside the     |
|   | "Space Industry" by tapping into other DoD agencies besides AF   |
|   | to get broader ideas of "real world" outside NASA community.     |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Technology sub-group needs to closely coordinate with ARTWG.     |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | If ASTWG is to encompass ARTWG or vice-versa, the groups need to |
|   | fully understand [DoD]{.underline} missions and requirements.    |
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| 3 | \(I\) Run a business that serves the spaceport industry.         |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Need better IT support:                                          |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- laptops connected to projectors to facilitate brainstorming   |
|   | in sub-groups                                                    |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- better methods for sub-group leads to create PowerPoint       |
|   | slides for presentation at later sessions                        |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- internet/e-mail access for participants (with printers)       |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- support creation of various online "libraries" (env., policy, |
|   | others?)                                                         |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- call up web pages on big screen to facilitate discussion      |
|   | (e.g. FAA rules page)                                            |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Sub-groups should invite [short]{.underline} (10-15 minute)      |
|   | presentations                                                    |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Sub-groups need at least 4 hours, preferably 8 hours of meeting  |
|   | time.                                                            |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Need better promotion:                                           |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- i.e. external communications -- Why is there no press         |
|   | coverage?                                                        |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- Academia, Dept. of State, Navy, economists & analysts         |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- Public awareness and communication are vital                  |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Keep an eye on refreshments -- water and diet soda ran out early |
|   | in the afternoon. Food and drinks in general were                |
|   | [great]{.underline}.                                             |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Registration, security, and access was handled very well. [Good  |
|   | job]{.underline}.                                                |
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| 4 | I will be willing to help and put my expertise to support the    |
|   | Command and Control sub-group at this working group.             |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | <jose.perotti-1@ksc.nasa.gov>                                    |
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| 5 | Provide technology input support related to sensors &            |
|   | instrumentation needs.                                           |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Anthony Eckhoff                                                  |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Dynacs, KSC 321-867-6751                                         |
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| 9 | Publish a list of attendees with contact info.                   |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Also a greater emphasis to staying on schedule. Have more        |
|   | structured presentation from the state spaceport as opposed to a |
|   | rambling free-for-all.                                           |
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| 1 | Make the information more accessible to DoD agencies and other   |
| 0 | govt. sources. I found out about the ASTWG through word of       |
|   | mouth.                                                           |
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| 1 |                                                                  |
| 1 |                                                                  |
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| 1 | How about starting the next meeting a little earlier -- say      |
| 2 | 0830.                                                            |
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| 1 | Advocate to higher HQ.                                           |
| 3 |                                                                  |
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| 1 | Don't really understand question. My company is prepared to      |
| 4 | envision, conceptualize, plan, design, build, operate and        |
|   | promote spaceports and transportation systems anywhere in the    |
|   | world. However we cannot invest large sums of money into new     |
|   | spaceports or vehicles because it is not a high return           |
|   | investment at this time. We can leverage our technology          |
|   | investments in other areas to problems associated with           |
|   | spaceports.                                                      |
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| 1 |                                                                  |
| 5 |                                                                  |
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| 1 |                                                                  |
| 6 |                                                                  |
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| 1 | 1\) Environmental impact is an integral part of master planning  |
| 7 |                                                                  |
|   | 2\) Education (university research) will drive [new]{.underline} |
|   | technology development. After a vision is established, research  |
|   | will define systems and methods. Engineering, the last part,     |
|   | will implement operational systems used to support spaceports.   |
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| 1 | Provide technical and policy support as the agency responsible   |
| 8 | for operating/maintaining/modernizing the National Airspace      |
|   | System.                                                          |
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| 1 |                                                                  |
| 9 |                                                                  |
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| 2 | Share information concerning the Space Launch Initiative         |
| 0 | program.                                                         |
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| 2 |                                                                  |
| 1 |                                                                  |
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| 2 | Invent anti-gravity drive? It might be interesting to brainstorm |
| 2 | the "killer app" -- the news headline that would kindle          |
|   | increased interest in launch rates both from a req'ts pull       |
|   | (space developed cure for cancer) and from a tech push           |
|   | (antigravity drive can lift shuttle to orbit on 2 AA batteries)  |
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| 2 |                                                                  |
| 3 |                                                                  |
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| 2 | I can identify issues important to spaceport                     |
| 4 | development/licensing/operations as an existing spaceport        |
|   | director. I can advocate/educate/develop/evaluate policy         |
|   | necessary to foster the viability of space transportation        |
|   | systems.                                                         |
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| 2 |                                                                  |
| 5 |                                                                  |
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| 2 |                                                                  |
| 6 |                                                                  |
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| 2 | I plan to make available to NASA engineers (and others) an intro |
| 7 | course on economic analysis (NPV, IRR, business and government   |
|   | investment analysis) to help advocates to justify proposed       |
|   | investments. Since the time-value of money has such a great      |
|   | impact on operations and spaceport economics, I'd like to make   |
|   | KSC my 3^rd^ stop (after HQ & MSFC...).                          |
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| 2 | It seems to me that three macro-level policy thrusts should be   |
| 8 | driving the central focus for the ASTWG. I heard practically     |
|   | nothing about any of the three at the meeting sessions (until    |
|   | the final panel session1):                                       |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | #1[) Shuttle Privatization]{.underline} -- I believe there's a   |
|   | near-term opportunity for ASTWG to learn from, influence, &      |
|   | contribute to the success of the imminent/continuing move toward |
|   | privatizing the operation & maintenance of the space shuttle as  |
|   | a means of increasing commercial opportunities & activities in   |
|   | space. The spaceport-type support for shuttle at KSC will be     |
|   | viewed as the first high-profile, operational RLV spaceport      |
|   | activity for better or worse, as shuttle ops are further         |
|   | privatized. Stimulating commercial use could be the key to the   |
|   | future for other spaceports.                                     |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | #2) [120-Day RLV Study]{.underline} -- NASA (mainly MSFC) & the  |
|   | Air Force (mainly AFSPC) are currently working together to       |
|   | consider ways to jointly develop 2^nd^-generation RLVs -- the    |
|   | outcome of this effort -- by the end of February -- will be very |
|   | important in determining the future for spaceports in terms of   |
|   | vehicle concept considerations (e.g. 1 or 2 stages to orbit,     |
|   | size & weight, propellants, missions) and opportunities for      |
|   | contributing to the overall RLV concept by ensuring ground       |
|   | operability & spaceport considerations are included in the       |
|   | debate up front.                                                 |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | #3) [Administration's Emphasis on National Security Space Sector |
|   | Capabilities & Military Transformation]{.underline}. The current |
|   | RLV study is one example of how this policy view is being        |
|   | manifested in a way that will influence spaceport development    |
|   | opportunities & roles -- but it has broader implications for     |
|   | both the civil & commercial space sectors in general. The Bush   |
|   | campaign, Rumsfeld Space Commission, & Quadrennial Defense       |
|   | Review all consistently advocated military transformation themes |
|   | -- particularly for space. The Space Commission report strongly  |
|   | implies that the civil & commercial space sectors are viewed as  |
|   | subservient to national security space. Recognizing & responding |
|   | to this theme & direction could be the determining factor as to  |
|   | ASTWG's effectiveness & relevance in the end.                    |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | I'd be happy to discuss this further if anyone would like.       |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | \- Vic Villhard                                                  |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Booz Allen Hamilton                                              |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Colorado Springs                                                 |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 719-380-6991                                                     |
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| 2 | Participate/co-chair sub-group (Safety & Environmental) and      |
| 9 | encourage working smarter in the discipline. S&E needs to be     |
|   | viewed as "white hats" & be involved up front (adding value)     |
|   | efforts rather than viewed as "worse than legal"!                |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Mission success/failure criteria, to me, is the missing link in  |
|   | the space business advancement. Mr. Bridges, as does NASA all    |
|   | the time, has to "set the record straight" about our successes   |
|   | when we had Mars mission "failures". I contend it was a failure  |
|   | from the layman's perspective & the scientific perspective. From |
|   | a management perspective, we met all our written success         |
|   | criteria faster, cheaper, better, safer, we didn't kill anyone  |
|   | & safely, quickly crashed on Mars  we only failed the unwritten |
|   | success/failure criteria of the spacecraft doing its intended    |
|   | function. Shuttle missions are successful regardless of the      |
|   | failed experiments. What John Kennedy said tracks with Kevin     |
|   | Brown's chart  location -- moon; scope -- return to earth;      |
|   | timeframe -- by end of decade...but Kennedy's mission            |
|   | success/failure criteria was clear, namely "safely"! We didn't   |
|   | want to return dead people from the moon. In today's missions,   |
|   | the success/failure is implied, taken for granted. I say write   |
|   | the mission success/failure criteria down & recognize how        |
|   | important that part is -- mission statements must have           |
|   | success/failure criteria.                                        |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | I support & feel strongly about the need for better education    |
|   | associated with space but the sub-group for education really     |
|   | turned me off -- boring & I didn't learn anything & felt         |
|   | "belittled". I don't know why really & can't really give         |
|   | specifics other than the body language & tone of voice &         |
|   | criticisms gave me the impression I got -- teachers/education    |
|   | people need to be like a cross between news reporters & coaches, |
|   | not "gods" preaching & judging.                                  |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | I think international interfaces should eventually come to ASTWG |
|   | because I think foreigners support the US space program (from a  |
|   | public perspective) more than the US does. We might learn from   |
|   | them! (regarding public awareness & support) Also, I think space |
|   | profits come from worldwide transportation, not just "rocketing  |
|   | across America". The passion between states needs to also be     |
|   | between NASA, FAA, & AF (range).                                 |
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| 3 | Provide operations, project mgt, outreach, and spaceport mgt     |
| 0 | expertise & lessons learned to various sub-groups as req'd.      |
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| 3 |                                                                  |
| 1 |                                                                  |
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| 3 | Facilitate collaboration on technology development               |
| 2 |                                                                  |
|   | Provide funding; locate funding sources                          |
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| 3 |                                                                  |
| 3 |                                                                  |
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| 3 | Please invite staff and executives from the U.S. Department of   |
| 4 | State for export issues on Department of Education               |
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| 3 |                                                                  |
| 5 |                                                                  |
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| 3 | I am glad I am here at the beginning. I will work w/sub-groups & |
| 6 | hope coming together next time will be more productive because   |
|   | we had some action items which are facilitated by personal       |
|   | contact. This is the beginning -- there is lots to do.           |
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| 3 | The users (Boeing Delta, LM Atlas, USAF RLV) must be brought     |
| 7 | into this process. I'm sure OIA consulted with Delta Airlines    |
|   | about their needs before building the airport.                   |
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| 3 | Support efforts to communicate the long term potential and       |
| 8 | address needs, especially with market development,               |
|   | commercialization, and education and outreach.                   |
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| 9 |                                                                  |
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| 0 |                                                                  |
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| 1 |                                                                  |
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| 4 | Apply real launch vehicle and payload DDT&E and operations       |
| 2 | experience to defining a long term vision, setting near term     |
|   | goals and developing a prioritized technology roadmap consistent |
|   | with achieving the goals and reaching towards the vision.        |
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| 3 |                                                                  |
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| 4 |                                                                  |
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| 4 | Co-chair a sub-group                                             |
| 6 |                                                                  |
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| 8 |                                                                  |
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| 4 | Need more time for breakout sessions                             |
| 9 |                                                                  |
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| 5 | Technology development                                           |
| 0 |                                                                  |
| a | Need more time for subgroup breakout sessions                    |
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| 5 | Education (Univ. level & grad univ. study)                       |
| 0 |                                                                  |
| b | Univ. presence gives an intellectual source of knowledge         |
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| 5 | 1.) Could you please make the slides from this ASTWG available   |
| 1 | on the web? I am especially interested in Mr. Shaw's slides on   |
|   | relative economic estimates for spaceport activities.            |
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| 5 |                                                                  |
| 2 |                                                                  |
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| 3 |                                                                  |
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| 5 | Continue to communicate requirements, concepts, technology       |
| 4 | plans, etc. between ASTWG/ARTWG and SLI.                         |
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| 5 | Continue to monitor the progress of ASTWG, stay involved, find   |
| 5 | more "user" inputs to be used by the appropriate sub-groups.     |
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| 5 | I will continue to support sub-groups.                           |
| 6 |                                                                  |
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| 5 | Assist in issue clarification, consensus building, & consortium  |
| 7 | construction to coordinate plans and pool resources.             |
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| 5 | Continue working on our vehicle development & financing plans.   |
| 8 |                                                                  |
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| 5 | Continue to advocate & be involved                               |
| 9 |                                                                  |
|   | It seems to me that looking beyond today, initially space        |
|   | transportation will be utilized to transport people & cargo from |
|   | spaceport to spaceport on earth (through space obviously --      |
|   | 45-60 min flights anywhere on earth). This leads me to believe   |
|   | we need an international spaceport vision. For instance, I would |
|   | build the first 8 spaceports in                                  |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 1\) U.S. east coast                                              |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 2\) U.S. west coast                                              |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 3\) Europe                                                       |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 4\) Far East/Asia                                                |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 5\) Australia                                                    |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 6\) Russia                                                       |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 7\) China                                                        |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 8\) Space-based spaceport                                        |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Additional spaceports added as the system is                     |
|   | tested/validated/profitable. Obviously, the airlines &           |
|   | businesses such as FedEx/UPS/USPS would be important partners in |
|   | this endeavor as well as the tourism industry.                   |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Other issues to consider:                                        |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   Earth environmental factors w/ozone & the atmosphere         |
|   |     w/multiple daily launches out of the atmosphere              |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   Environmental factors affecting the human body traveling     |
|   |     through space & rescue capabilities                          |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   Spaceports co-located/transportation links to                |
|   |     airport/bus/train stations                                   |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   New containerization processes/procedures for space cargo    |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   Develop a space-based spaceport hub w/hotel for tourists --  |
|   |     first step in reaching out to moon/other planet-based        |
|   |     spaceports                                                   |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   The lynchpin is technology -- none of this is economically   |
|   |     feasible unless technology gives us a lower cost to launch.  |
|   |     New propulsion systems are the key to this effort.           |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   'Non-powered landing such as the Space Shuttle will not be   |
|   |     sufficient -- ability to divert under power due to weather,  |
|   |     traffic delays, etc.                                         |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | -   Deconflicting flights w/space junk, asteroid/meteor pieces,  |
|   |     etc.                                                         |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Suggest -- invite Air Force Association, Aerospace Education     |
|   | Foundation to be part of the education sub-group. They are very  |
|   | active in aerospace education.                                   |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Additional comments:                                             |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Clearly, we lack a national or international vision -- we need   |
|   | another JFK-type vision & commitment. "By the end of the decade  |
|   | we will build 3 spaceports -- the first is the International     |
|   | Space Station, the second at KSC/CCAFS & the third               |
|   | at...(alternate Shuttle landing site? Russia? Europe? China?)"   |
|   | Along with this vision, perhaps the Russians had the idea of the |
|   | century...take a civilian businessman into space, with little    |
|   | training, to show an average person can travel into space &      |
|   | return safely -- look at the press they got!!! Talk about        |
|   | getting everyone involved, good press, commitment, etc. What     |
|   | about using the Space Shuttle initially -- or build a new        |
|   | Shuttle-type vehicle or space-plane. Have a national or          |
|   | international contest, lottery, science & technology             |
|   | competition...develop ideas & pick winners (average people,      |
|   | press, business people, scientists, students) (to) get some of   |
|   | the first rides into space in our new space transportation       |
|   | system. I believe you would get significant support, commitment, |
|   | good press, ideas -- it would energize the nation -- perhaps the |
|   | world. We have to show everyone what's possible by doing the     |
|   | impossible -- get average people into space on a routine basis   |
|   | -- the line of people with hands out to help would be endless.   |
|   | To begin, we have to get our national leadership to commit the   |
|   | nation with an international coalition.                          |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Thanks,                                                          |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | William J. Cleckner 45SW D/LG                                    |
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| 6 | 1\. Develop new safety analysis methods that will streamline the |
| 0 | safety process                                                   |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | 2\. Provide expertise to support master planning efforts         |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | I think this conference was much better organized than the first |
|   | one. At the same time, it is clear that the ASTWG is still in    |
|   | the early stages and still must accomplish basic tasks -- such   |
|   | as defining what a spaceport really is.                          |
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| 6 | There are many complementary activities being conducted re:      |
| 1 | master planning, technology development, etc. ASTWG should       |
|   | serve, as one of its functions, as a collector of the            |
|   | information on these activities and a disseminator of the        |
|   | information to the community.                                    |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Unfocused activities are interesting but rarely result in major  |
|   | initiatives. Each sub-group has to form a focus based on needs.  |
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| 6 |                                                                  |
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| 6 | Sponsor studies and technology demo's needed to define a         |
| 7 | spaceport                                                        |
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| 0 |                                                                  |
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| 7 | Analysis of flight-ground system interaction                     |
| 1 |                                                                  |
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| 7 | By considering spaceport needs in range operational and          |
| 2 | architectural development.                                       |
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| 7 |                                                                  |
| 3 |                                                                  |
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| 7 | ASTWG needs to LEAD the subgroups. There needs to be a reference |
| 4 | concept that is discussed, amended, expanded, etc.               |
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| 7 | Support integration of spaceport and range                       |
| 5 |                                                                  |
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| 7 | I will press missions at Wallops Flight Facility to identify     |
| 6 | their education/outreach component. I will also support          |
|   | spaceport tech. Dev. With my discretionary dollars.              |
|   |                                                                  |
|   | Will also support WG telecons & activities                       |
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| 7 | Participate & provide input during                               |
| 7 | meetings/telecons/conferences/working groups                     |
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| 8 |                                                                  |
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| 9 |                                                                  |
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| 8 | Proliferate the full utilization of VBITS (Vehicle Based         |
| 0 | Independent Tracking System) which negates the necessity for     |
|   | ground-based range infrastructure. If we are to be competitive   |
|   | with foreign launch services, we must approximate their range    |
|   | cost -- which is close to [zero]{.underline}. VBITS will do this |
|   | (see VBITS presentation on Friday's agenda for details).         |
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| 1 |                                                                  |
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| 2 |                                                                  |
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