TRB A5T55

**Task Force on Transportation Needs for National**

**Parks and Public Lands**

**Task Force Meeting Notes**

**November 30, 2005**

# Attendees

Robert Bini

John Daigle

Donald Durkee

Ron Eck

Jim Evans

Franz Gimmler

Gary Ritter

Katie Turnbull

Bill Withuhn

Carol Zimmerman

# 1) Proposal for Full Committee Status

# 

The proposal for full committee status was discussed and only a few
minor changes are suggested that include: 1) a short description under
the heading of Committee Strategic Objectives and Activities; and 2)
formatting the document to ensure there are no hanging headings at the
end of pages in the proposal. Katie Turnbull will be making these final
edits to the document.

Katie will present the proposal to her section at its December
conference call, and once it is approved it can be presented to the
group meeting at the TRB annual meeting in January.

# 2) Annual Meeting Plans

The annual meeting is scheduled for January 22-26. One poster session,
one research paper session, and one panel session are being presented at
the conference.

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Poster Session 332\
Monday, January 23, 2006, 2:30 PM - 5:00 PM, Hilton\
Transportation Needs of National Parks and Public Lands: Recent Research

Posters being presented in this session include:

> *Transportation Study for Isle Royale National Park* (P06-0193) -
> HL01\
> Jack Salmela, Isle Royale National Park
>
> *Historic American Engineering Record National Park Roads and Bridges
> Recording Program* (P06-0194) - HL02\
> Todd A. Croteau, U.S. National Park Service\
> Christopher H. Marston, U.S. National Park Service
>
> *Evaluation of Golden Gate National Recreation Area\'s Portable
> Changeable Message Signs* (P06-0195) - HL03\
> Abby Lindsay, Western Transportation Institute
>
> *Traveler Information on Going-to-the-Sun Road* (P06-0427) - HL04\
> Lisa Ballard, Glacier National Park
>
> *Successful Implementation of Programmatic 4(f) Net Benefit Evaluation
> at Valley Forge National Historical Park* (P06-0430) - HL05\
> Dan J. Carl, Valley Forge National Historical Park
>
> *Transportation Demands and Issues in an Urban National Park: Saguaro
> National Park, Arizona* (P06-0432) - HL06\
> Richard G. Schaffer, Saguaro National Park
>
> *Interpretation, Community Development, and Transportation: Planning
> an Educational Parkway at Homestead National Monument* (P06-0434) -
> HL07\
> Camille N.Y. Fink, University of California - Los Angeles
>
> *Road to Chaco Canyon: Will a Roadway Improvement Lead to Increased
> Visitation?* (P06-1114) - HL08\
> Jonathan Upchurch, National Park Foundation

Research Papers Session 514\
Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 1:30 PM - 3:15 PM, Hilton\
Transportation in National Parks and Public Lands

> *Service Times and Capacity at National Park Entrance Stations*
> ([06-0809](http://www.trb.org/AM/IP/paper_detail.asp?paperid=10139))\
> Jonathan Upchurch, National Park Foundation
>
> *Intelligent Transportation Systems and the National Park Service:
> Current Status and Potential Applications*
> ([06-2341](http://www.trb.org/AM/IP/paper_detail.asp?paperid=11689))\
> Eric Plosky, Volpe National Transportation Systems Center\
> Elizabeth Bent, San Francisco County Transportation Authority\
> Gary T. Ritter, Volpe National Transportation Systems Center
>
> *Financial Planning for Transit Services in the National Parks*
> ([06-1520](http://www.trb.org/AM/IP/paper_detail.asp?paperid=10853))\
> Melissa M. Laube, Volpe National Transportation Systems Center\
> James H. Evans, U.S. National Park Service
>
> *Impact on Tourism of Arizona Highways Magazine*
> ([06-0078](http://www.trb.org/AM/IP/paper_detail.asp?paperid=9345))\
> John Semmens, Arizona Transportation Research Center\
> Kathleen Andereck, Arizona State University\
> Evelyn Ng, Arizona State University

Panel Session 560

Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 3:45 PM - 5:30 PM, Hilton

[Road Design on Public Lands: History and Future
Direction](javascript:submitform('','5763','','session_details.asp','','','',''))\
[James H.
Evans](javascript:submitform('11442','','','person_details.asp','','','','')),
U.S. National Park Service, presiding

> *[America\'s National Park Roads and Parkways: Research for Historic
> American Engineering
> Record](javascript:submitform('','','12755','presentation_details.asp','','','',''))
> (P06-0190)*\
>      [Christopher H.
> Marston](javascript:submitform('35599','','','person_details.asp','','','','')),
> U.S. National Park Service\
> *[Documenting America\'s National Park Roads and
> Parkways](javascript:submitform('','','11897','presentation_details.asp','','','',''))
> (06-2549)*\
>      [Timothy
> Davis](javascript:submitform('33575','','','person_details.asp','','','','')),
> U.S. National Park Service\
> [*Context-Sensitive Solutions on Public Lands: Training and Best
> Practices*](javascript:submitform('','','12757','presentation_details.asp','','','',''))
> *(P06-0191)\
> *     [Hala
> Elgaaly](javascript:submitform('17744','','','person_details.asp','','','','')),
> Federal Highway Administration\
> *[Lifelines: U.S. National Forest Roads and
> Byways](javascript:submitform('','','12758','presentation_details.asp','','','',''))
> (P06-0192)\
> *     [Floyd A.
> Thompson](javascript:submitform('35943','','','person_details.asp','','','','')),
> U.S. Forest Service\
> *[Application of Historical Designs into Today\'s Context-Sensitive
> Solutions](javascript:submitform('','','13301','presentation_details.asp','','','',''))
> (P06-0698)*\
>      [J. B.
> Wlaschin](javascript:submitform('35944','','','person_details.asp','','','','')),
> Federal Highway Administration

**3) Task Force Business Meeting at TRB**

The date of the Task Force business meeting is January 24^th^ 8:00-12:00
pm, Hilton. There was a discussion of the potential agenda for the
business meeting.

1.  Presentation at the Business meeting. Different topics and
    presenters were discussed -- 1) Cape Cod Regional Transportation
    Project. It was determined that the presentation would not offer
    significant information beyond what was presented at the mid-year
    meeting in Boston. According to Gary Ritter there are some changes
    related to the plan but overall with the project is still within the
    implementation phase and most of the project description remains the
    same. 2) The topic of Visitor Experiences that would be based partly
    on the workshop held at the 2005 Annual Meeting. This paper authored
    by researchers at Arizona State University was rejected for
    presentation at the 2006 Annual Meeting because there was not enough
    data analysis and reporting of results. Jim Evans believes that more
    work has progressed and the authors may be willing to present -- Jim
    agreed to explore further by contacting the researchers. 3) Another
    presentation option is by Phil Shapiro of BMI-SG with his work on
    FTA Planning Guide for Alternative Transportation Systems in
    National Parks and Other Recreation Areas.

2.  Many of the agenda items will be similar to last year's Annual
    Meeting such as overview of the Task Force activities, Recap of
    mid-year meeting, TRB Report by Kim Fisher, Update on the
    Transportation Bill by Laura Loomis, Land Unit Reports by the
    federal agencies, report of technical committees.

3.  There was discussion of having a presentation of agency perspectives
    (DOI and DOT) related to the Alternative Transportation Provisions
    in SAFETEA-LU. Possible speakers included Chris Kearney, Assistant
    Secretary of Budget, Department of Interior and Susan Schruth
    (title?) with the Department of Transportation. Carol Zimmerman was
    going to follow-up with these potential speakers.

4.  Session Planning for 2007 Annual Meeting and the possibility of
    developing specific topics or themes when issuing a call for Papers.

5.  Liaison reports and discussion of other strategic planning and
    identification of potential partners.

6.  Mid-Year Meeting. Harlow Landphair, Chair, AFB40 Landscape and
    Environmental Design has proposed that we consider a joint meeting
    July 2-August 2, 2006 in Tacoma, Washington. Katie Turnbull was
    going to follow-up with Harlow if he can join our Business Meeting.

**4) Other Business**

There was discussion about the need to invite to our Business Meeting
and other activities of the Task Force other stakeholders such as the
Bureau of Land Management (BLM), Bureau of Indian Affairs, and Corps of
Engineers.