Consumer complaint received 2023-04-19
Company: ProCollect, Inc.
State: FL
Product: Debt collection
Sub-product: I do not know
Issue: Written notification about debt
Sub-issue: Didn't receive notice of right to dispute

Complaint:
This letter is being sent to you as a complaint of never receiving communication by Claimant from PRO COLLECT, INC. The complaint is for failure to respond to the letter and other information requested by the commissioner of the court/affidavit. What law can prohibit a company to ignore legal documents governed by the government? All information requested by affidavit which is not to be treated as normal communication per FDCPA. Deprived of life has been committed against me. I also DIDNT received statements from PRO COLLECT, INC that validates a debt was owed to another company but does not validate that its, I, XXXX XXXX as the alleged debtor. I do not have a contract with PRO COLLECT, INC and I disputed this debt and all claims to contract in accordance with 15 USC 1692 G. Statements cant be validation for identity theft purposes, but are primarily to validate a debt, which is not the same as validating a claim. There is more than one YOUR NAME as a consumer and in this case, PRO COLLECT, INC received a legal affidavit by the commissioner of the court and the company refused to acknowledge the legal document and are committing fraud against the consumers. The following information has also been requested for legal purposes from PRO COLLECT, INC and they are refusing to provide all information. I am also requesting that this information be forwarded to FTC.

Be advised that your claim is disputed and validation and proof of claim of the disputed debt is requested in accordance with the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692 and as amended by adding the following new Title 8 USC 802 et seq., and the Fair Credit Billing Act, 15 USC. 1666 et seq. I dispute this debt and all claims to contract in accordance with 15 USC 1692 G. All of which work in conjunction with each other, including the Truth In Lending Act ( TILA ) 15 USC 1601 et seq. It is not now, nor has it ever been, my intention to avoid paying any obligation that is lawfully owed by the Claimant. In order to make arrangements to pay an obligation which may be lawfully owed, please document and verify the debt by complying, in good faith, with this request for validation and return it to me, within thirty ( 30 ) days of receipt of this letter. I am absolutely certain that the item I disputed with a legal document that was ignored, should be removed, so I am hereby exercising my rights under FCRA 611 ( a ) ( 7 ) to request a complete description of all methods used to investigate my aforementioned dispute.

As per Section FCRA 609 ( e ) ( 15 U.S.C. 1681g ( 1 ) ), I am entitled to see the source of all the information, which is the original contract that contains my wet link signature and the cashed checks used for bill payment. 
Please provide the following information as these items will be demanded in court as they are now by affidavit. 

This is NOT a request for verification or proof of Claimant mailing address, but a request for VALIDATION and PROOF OF CLAIM made pursuant to the above-named Titles and Sections. I respectfully request that your offices provide Claimant with competent evidence as per the attached Declaration and Proof of Claim that I have any legal obligation to pay you the unsubstantiated alleged debt. Furthermore, you shall cease all verbal communication. No phone calls to the Claimant. 

At this time, I will also inform you that if your offices have reported invalidated information to any of the XXXX major Credit Bureaus, such as, XXXX, XXXX and XXXX prior to validation and proof of claim of the disputed debt, this action might constitute fraud under both Federal and State Laws. Due to this fact ; if any negative mark is found on any of Claimant credit reports by your company or the company that you represent, I will not hesitate in bringing legal action against you and your client for the following : Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act Violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act Defamation of Character Violation of United States Code TITLE 18 PART 1 CHAPTER 63 1341 ( Mail Fraud ) This debt is considered to be invalid until I receive proper validation and your offices provide Claimant with proof of claim of the disputed debt. Your offices have 30 days to produce the required documentation in accordance with FTC guidelines. During this validation period and proof of claim, if any action is taken which could be considered detrimental to any of XXXX credit reports, said action will be considered a dishonor and cause the self-executing contract portion of this notice to be implemented. This includes any listing any information to a credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated. 

If your offices fail to respond to this validation and proof of claim request within 30 days from the date of your receipt, all references to this account must be deleted and completely removed from Claimant credit file and a copy of such deletion request shall be sent to Claimant immediately. 

Title 8 USC 809. Validation of debts [ 15 USC 1692g ] ( b ) If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection ( a ) that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such validation and verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector. 
BLACKS LAW DICTIONARY : VERIFICATION. Confirmation of correctness, truth, or authenticity, by affidavit, oath, or deposition. 
VALIDATION. Proving the validity of accuracy of the claim. 

Counter Claim with Self-Executing Contract If Respondent, such as by commission, omission, and otherwise : ( a ) Fails to provide VALIDATION and PROOF OF CLAIM within thirty ( 30 ) days ; ( b ) Makes a false representation of the character of the herein above-referenced alleged debt ; ( c ) Makes a false representation of the legal status of the herein above-referenced alleged debt ; ( d ) Makes any threat of action that can not legally be taken, in violation of any applicable law, such as, the law codified at the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, will be construed to be Respondents tacit acceptance of the terms and condition stated herein. In which case XXXX  agrees to : ( e ) Voluntarily report this account to all credit bureaus as paid as agreed ; and, ( f ) Voluntarily waive all claims against Claimant, their Agent or Heirs with prejudice ; and, ( g ) The matter regarding the alleged debt is finally and totally settled ; and, ( h ) Voluntarily admits the Claimant is the depositor for this account, that XXXX  risked none of their assets at any time regarding this account and that they failed to disclose these material facts to Claimant ; and, ( i ) Voluntarily report the date of last activity on this account is the date of this notice.

Furthermore, XXXX  failure to Cease and Desist in accordance with the requirements of the FDCPA and other related law, and/or satisfy the above terms and conditions, constitutes XXXX  Breach of Duty and voluntary agreement to compensate Claimant, by certified mail, with a cashiers check within thirty ( 30 ) days of the date of billing by Claimant, their Agent or Heirs, in the following amounts : I ) XXXX XXXX XXXX ( {$1000.00} ) for each communication made to Claimant or their Agent or Heirs, whether telephonically or in writing, which is not in affidavit form, by a person who has firsthand knowledge, regarding Respondents unsubstantiated claim ; and, II ) XXXX XXXX XXXX  ( {$50000.00} ) for each transaction initiated by Claimant where Claimants commercial ability is impeded due to you, your agents or assigns adverse credit reporting ; and, III ) XXXX XXXX XXXX  ( {$5000.00} ) for each court appearance Claimant, their Agent or Heirs makes in response to Respondents unsubstantiated claims ; and, XXXX ) RESPONDENT owes Claimant the balance equal to the purported credit limit on this account, plus interest and fees, for money lent; and, V ) XXXX times the alleged claim amount of XXXX XXXX XXXX  XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX ( {$160000.00} ) which equals ( {$490000.00} ) ; and, VI ) XXXX XXXX XXXX ( {$5000.00} ) per occurrence, for listing or reporting any information to a credit reporting repository which could be considered detrimental to Claimants credit history ; and, VII ) Punitive damages in the amount of ( {$270000.00} ) ; and VIII ) Debt Collector tacitly agrees that Debt Collector will compensate Respondent for all costs ; fees and expenses incurred in defending against this and any and all continued collection attempts ( by anyone ) re the above-referenced alleged account XXXX  also agrees to : 1 . Voluntarily authorize XXXX to record a UCC-1 on XXXX as XXXX to secure the debt owed XXXX ; and, 2. Voluntarily prove their claim as a XXXX in possession of Claimant property in a involuntary bankruptcy proceeding process ; and, 3. Voluntarily compensate Claimant for ALL costs and attorneys/consultant fees ; and, 4. Resolve ALL claims by XXXX, against XXXX, et al, exclusively and finally through binding arbitration, if necessary, to enforce the above terms, conditions, fees, penalties and damages. XXXX replaces the right to go to court except to confirm an arbitration award. The arbitration organization that is selected will apply its code or procedure in effect at the time the arbitration is filed, subject to this agreement. The arbitration will be conducted before a single arbitrator. The arbitrators authority is limited solely to the Claims between XXXX and XXXX alone. The arbitration will not be consolidated with any other arbitration proceeding. If Claimant prevails in the arbitration of any Claim against XXXX, XXXX will reimburse XXXX for any fees XXXX paid to the arbitration organization in connection with the arbitration. Any decision rendered in such arbitration proceedings will be final and binding on the parties, and judgment may be entered in a court of competent jurisdiction. This arbitration provision applies to all Claims now in existence or that may arise in the future. The arbitration provision shall survive any voluntary payment of Claimants claim against XXXX, in full, or any bankruptcy by XXXX. 

This is a private communication and is intended to affect an out-of-court settlement of this matter. Conduct yourself accordingly. Should any provision on this agreement be found to not be enforceable by order of a court of competent jurisdiction, it shall not adversely affect any other provision of this agreement and reasonable opportunity and effort shall be taken to modify it to become enforceable. 

Equality under the Law is PARAMOUNT and MANDATORY by Law NOTICE TO THE PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO THE AGENT NOTICE TO THE AGENT IS NOTICE TO THE PRINCIPAL Applicable to all successors and assigns Silence is Acquiescence/Agreement/Dishonor ) You are the second party that has written a letter purporting to represent, or have as your client, and the first was not registered as a debt collector in Maine and they have not answered the debt validation request presented to them. This is Notice that I do not recognize the XXXX from which the Claimant has received a computer-generated debt collection attempt, and I must necessarily dispute part, or all, of the alleged debt until the following is received... 

CREDITOR/DEBT COLLECTOR DECLARATION and PROOF OF THE CLAIM Please provide all of the following information and submit the appropriate forms and paperwork back to me along with an Affidavit signed In Accordance with 28 U.S.C. 1746 within 30 days from the date of your receipt of this request for validation and proof of claim. 
1. Alleged Name and Address of Creditor of the time of application and address validation 2. Name on File of Alleged Debtor : 3. Alleged Account # : _________________ 4. Amount of alleged debt : 5. Date that this alleged debt became/becomes payable : 6. Date of original charge off or delinquency : 7. Amount paid if debt was purchased : 8. Please attach a copy of any signed agreement alleged debtor/claimant has made with debt collector, or other verifiable proof that debtor/claimant has a contractual obligation to pay debt collector. 
9. Furnish a copy of the original promissory note/agreement redacting my social security number to prevent identity theft and state that your client named above is the holder in due course of the note agreement and will produce the original for my own and a judges inspection should there be a trial to contest these matters.

10. Produce the account and general ledger statement showing the full accounting of the alleged obligation that you are now attempting to collect. Such as ; XXXX XXXX balance sheet ( XXXX # XXXX XXXX, XXXX, XXXX ), XXXX OID report, XXXX registration statement, XXXX prospectus, XXXX & XXXX call schedules 11. Identify by name and address all persons, corporations, associations, or any other parties having an interest in legal proceedings regarding the alleged debt.

12. Verified specifically, name ( s ) of person ( s ) assigned as Trustee to handle Corporations affairs and to be held accountable for the actions of the Corporation. Such as CFO and subordinates responsible for debt collections.

13. Verify as a third-party debt collector, you have not purchased evidence of the alleged debt and are proceeding with collection activity in the name of the original maker of the note.

14. Verify you know and understand that certain clauses in a contract of adhesion, such as a so-called forum selection clause, are unenforceable unless the party to whom the contract is extended could have rejected the clause without impunity.

15. Provide verification from the stated creditor that you are authorized to act for them.

16. Verify that you know and understand that contacting me again after receipt of this notice without providing procedurally proper validation of the debt constitutes the use of interstate communications in a scheme of fraud by advancing a writing, which you know is false with the intention that others rely on the written communication to their detriment a violation of United States Code TITLE 18 PART 1 CHAPTER 63 1341.

NOTICE OF CLAIM DISPUTE NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT APPLICABLE TO ALL SUCCESSORS AND ASIGNS **********************SILENCE IS ACQUIESENCE*********************** NOTICE AND DEMAND TO CEASE AND DESIST COLLECTION ACTIVITIES PRIOR TO VALIDATION OF PURPORTED DEBT Pursuant to the truth in lending laws of the United States Code , Title 15 1601 et. Seq. and the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act laws of the United States Code 1692 et. seq This notice constitutes a timely written response to your Fair Debt Collection Practices Act notice that you are attempting to collect an alleged debt and is not a dishonor of your alleged claim of debt.

This notice is my, required by law, demand to cease and desist collection activities prior to validation of purported debt and you must validate the enclosed claim of an alleged debt. You must provide verification that an actual debt really exists by producing the following : 1. The name and address of the organization or other governmental unit alleging a debt ; 2. The name and address of the person or persons in that organization or other governmental unit alleging a claim of debt ; 3. The name of the actual creditor even if that is myself ; 4. The origin of the funds used to create this alleged claim of debt 5. The actual records of the organization or other governmental unit showing the time and place of the deposit and distribution of the funds used to create this alleged claim of debt.

6. The actual records of the organization or other governmental unit showing that an actual loan was made from the organization or other governmental units own funds that resulted in the enclosed alleged claim of a debt.

2. The actual records of the organization or other governmental unit with a live signature on any and, all document/instrument ( s ) used to allege the existence of a real loan of funds or debt from the organization or other governmental unit to myself or anyone else by similar name.

3. Be advised that verification is defined ( Blacks Law Dictionary, 6th Edition ) as follows : Confirmation of correctness, truth, or authenticity, by affidavit, oath or deposition. Affidavit of truth of matter stated and object of verification is to assure good faith in averments or statements of party.

4. The actual records of the organization or other governmental unit showing that an honest disclosure of facts relating to the alleged loan was made by the organization or other governmental unit in compliance with the truth in lending laws of the United States Code, Title 15 -1601 et. seq and Regulation Z.

5. The actual records of the organization or other governmental unit showing that any, and all documents /instrument ( s ) containing my signature or likeness of my signature were not negotiated or pledged by the organization or other governmental unit against my credit to create the funds used for the appearance of a debt and resulting in this alleged claim of debt.

6. The person that prepares and swears to the validation of debt must describe:1 ) your job description on a daily basis ; 2 ) if you are the regular keeper of those books and records and are familiar with how they are kept and their contents ; 3 ) How long have you been in your position ; 4 ) When did you first come in contact with the alleged account/debt ; 5 ) How frequently do you work with the files and information they are presenting to verify/validate the alleged debt ; and 7 ) Do you have personal knowledge about the alleged debt and/or any alleged account.

15 U.S.C -1692 ( e ) states that a false, deceptive, and misleading representation, in connection, with the collection of any debt, includes the false representation of the character or legal status of any debt and further makes a threat to take any action that can not legally be taken a deceptive practice.

Pursuant to 15 U.S.C -1692 ( g ) ( 4 ) Validation of Debts, if you have evidence to validate your claim that the attached presentment does not constitute fraudulent misrepresentation and that one owes this alleged debt, this is a demand that, within 30 days, you provide such verification/validation and supporting evidence signed and certified under penalty of perjury to substantiate your claim. Until the requirements of the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act have been complied with and your claim is verified/validated, you have no consent to continue any collection activities.

This is a constructive notice that, absent the validation of your claim within 30 days, you must cease and desist any, and all collection activity and are prohibited from contacting me through the mail, by telephone, in person, at my home, or at my work. You are further prohibited from contacting any other third party. Each, and every attempted contact, in violation, of this act, will constitute harassment and defamation of character and will subject your agency and/or attorney and any, and all agents in his/her individual capacities, who take part in such harassment, and defamation, to a liability for actual damages, as well as statutory damages of up to {$1000.00} for each and, every violation, and a further liability for legal fees to be paid to any counsel which I may retain. Further, absent such validation of your claim, you are prohibited from filing any notice of lien and /or levy or judgment and are also barred from reporting any derogatory credit information to any credit reporting agency, regarding this disputed purported debt.

Further, pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act 15 U.S.C 1692 ( g ) ( 8 ), as you are merely an agency or other governmental unit of the United States, acting on someone elses behalf, this is a demand that you provide the name of the original principal or holder in due course, for whom you are attempting to collect this alleged debt. 

Please take notice that this legal notice will be forwarded as a criminal investigation of the business practices of the above, named organization or other governmental unit, its agents, officers, employees and attorney to determine violations of the United States criminal laws. Your claims of collection of a purported debt appears to be founded upon a false record in violation of U.S.C Title 18 -2071 and 2073 ( falsifying records ) and further ; uttering and possessing false obligations and counterfeit securities based upon the falsified records in violation of U.S.C Title 18 XXXX or XXXX, and further using corrupt business practices to make and possess false records and claim if obligation, not substantiated by truthful facts in violation of the XXXX XXXX Influences and Corrupt Organization ( XXXX ), U.S.C Title 18 1961 et.seq and further using the XXXX Mail to present such fraud and false instruments amounting to Mail Fraud, criminal conduct falling under Title 18 U.S.C -1341 Frauds and Swindles laws, and further sending mal with false and fictitious names, criminal conduct falling under Title 18 U.S.C -1842 Fictitious Names. IE XXXX XXXX ALL INFORMATION WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE TEXAS XXXX XXXX XXXX, AND IRS XXXX XXXX TO INVESTIGATE XXXX XXXX, XXXX UNDER THE BANKING SECRECY ACT AND THE XXXX XXXX UNDER AS WELL, AS ALL MONEY INSTRUMENT TO BE DISCLOSED. 




TAKE NOTICE XXXX XXXX, XXXX failure in providing respondent with the requisite verification, validating the above referenced alleged debt due to identity theft within the requirements of law as codified in the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, Fair Credit Reporting Act, Banking Secrecy Act, XXXX XXXX and the corresponding laws of each state, signifies that Debt Collector tacitly agrees that : A. ) Debt collector has no lawful, bona fide, verified claim, regarding the listed accounts : XXXX B. ) Debt Collector waives any, and all claims against respondent XXXX ) Debt Collector tacitly agrees that Debt Collector will compensate Respondent for all costs, fees and expenses incurred in defending against this and any, and all continued collection attempts, re the above-referenced alleged accounts. 
XXXX ) Failure of Debt Collector to properly and legally verify/validate alleged debt as required in this notice us a self-executing irrevocable power of attorney authorizing Respondent/Alleged Debtor named herein to direct the permanent removal, on behalf of the alleged Creditor, of any, and all references to said accounts in any, and all credit reporting agency files of any type. 
This response will constitute my effort to resolve this on-going debt claim between the parties involved. Until full disclosure on and for the official public record with a signed affidavit attached is achieved, there can be no case, collection or action. No civil or criminal cause of action can arise lest, out of fraud, there be valid, honest contract See XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX. XXXX XXXX Furthermore Title 12 U.S.C -411 Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose, of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal Reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington , District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve Bank.

Company public response: Company has responded to the consumer and the CFPB and chooses not to provide a public response
Company response to consumer: Closed with explanation