text: I have golfed at Starfire a few times over the Summer I have enjoyed it Probably one of the better value courses in Scottsdale and a good location The course is pretty long expecially from the tips nnAfter yesterday though I hate the place I played a hour round and what was worse the ranger that was going around said we were on pace for a hour minute round He gave us hope it would speed up but it was a lie Once a businees lies to me I am done with them The ranger never came back around because he probably figuered out he was useless Thanks to them I did not get any enjoyment out of my dollars They seemed to care about overbooking and getting paid for green fees then pleasing their customers