text: I will say that I do go here though very sporadically I gave it two stars but it is because of my tastes which I will explain in detailnnWhen I do go it is always early in the evening I do not like going to this bar when it is crowded as it is excessively crowded It is worth a trip if you are into the scene or are visiting Phoenix and want to experience the scene This is definitely one of the Valleys landmark bars If you are going alone and do not mind spending the evening by yourself ie peoplewatching it really is not that bad If you want to mingle with people this bar is not a great atmosphere for that People generally go in cliques and you will notice that the bar is full of cliqueclusters It definitely is not one of the friendlier bars in the Valley It also seems to have an instant snob effect on people nnNow for pluses Amsterdam does have a beautiful outdoor area which is suitable for smokers You can not only take your drinks out there but there is an outdoor bar at which you can get drinks It is a nice area to have drinks in the spring fall and earlylate summer Most of the summer it can still top degrees even late at night and winter nights do get chilly Amsterdam does have a nice interior as well They also have an extensive unique drink menunnAmsterdam does have a different crowd earlier in the evening than it does late nights If I were to focus solely on the evening atmosphere and if that were my only experience I could honestly give Amsterdam more stars The dense crowds aside the pretentious environment and go to be seen atmosphere make it harder to enjoy I have largely gone to bars based on the general environment and comfort which is why it is harder for me to make Amsterdam a focuspoint on a night out If I am in the area and feel like a drink and it is early in the evening I might be more inclined to stop in