text: I like to hike here as it is not as steep as the CamelbacknnMy daughter was five when she first made it to the top At that time it took her mins one way but she did it in mins todaynnThis summit course was my fall back plan whenever I could not find a parking at the Camelback while I was training I seemed to find a parking here and most I had to wait was mins miles one way and about mins to get to the top gave me the workout I needednnThere is no public bathroom near the parking otherwise I would hike twice to get the workout I wanted nnOn sunny clear day the view from the summit is beautiful I can see as far as the four peaks mountain