text: I will start by saying that my daughter and I made a special trip to get these bagels fresh in the morning and I was so disappointednnFirst of all weighing in on the bagel debate I do prefer NY bagels for which I have also been known to make special pilgrimages Montreals are thinner and somewhat sweet which is less enjoyable to mennThat said some of the dozen bagels sold to me were actually stale and had to be day old The best and freshest was probably the sesame However we decided after trying both St Viateur and Fairmount that Montreal bagels are not for us I think many Americans who have experienced highquality bagels in NYC might agree Frankly I can even do better at several places in BostonnnMontreal has amazing French food I guess I do not need it to compete with NY for the Jewish angle I also think Schwartzs is way overrated