that "southerners" are helped out. This could be simply solved by a discount for people whose views are "affected" by said wind farms and i imagine the complaints would drop. For those who wind turbines eyesores, I always point out how they are no different from Pylons, which litter the countryside. ttp://wisb.blogspot.com/ SMD Mark: My problem isn't with activism, per se, but with activism that results in violence, whether against person or property. It's the same exact reason why I cannot stand the Animal Liberation Front. They talk about "peaceful action," but what they're actually doing is destroying massive amounts of property (or thieving like mad). I understand that causes are important, but individuals causing damage to other individuals (or groups of individuals) in order to get a point across is not the way I want my democracy to work. What I want is for governments to start taking responsibility and slamming these companies for all the things they have done wrong. The fact is that BP should be bankrupt right now. The same is true of the coal mines in the last twenty years that have violated rules and so on. I want that. I want corporations to have a choice: you can follow our rules about the environment, or you can lose everything when you get caught doing something awful. But I'm an idealist, I guess. As for the tree thing: In the case of the Redwoods, it would take decades to grow them back to the same