still I KNOW (or better yet..."I am sure") that they are there doing that. So can you call that faith or what? I don't care what you call, it's basically the same thing. Most MMTers are saying the feds are fools i think, BB being number one clown Per Warren's comments, the operations guys at the Fed and Treasury know how this stuff works, b/c that's what they do every day. They just don't talk about it b/c of the ridicule and huge stigma it seems to bring up these days and they could likely lose their jobs. It's never a good thing when you know more than your boss...or better yet...when you call out your boss in front of everyone. The guys at the top like BB and Geithner and crowd are clearly the clowns running around doing their song and dance and so their motives and agendas must be considered when interpreting their statements, etc. In others words you can't trust them (faith again?) and what they say simply b/c they say so many patently false things or they contradict themselves depending on the political pressures of the day. I think this is pretty much old hat information considering the trends in the media and politics and finance these days. The lack of trust in their words and information directly relates to your concept of faith again as I see it. The difference between you and me seems to be that you want to trust what they say