through it before, as they wonder whether this is the beginning of the end for their farming business. Several of my constituents -- some of them are sitting in the Public Gallery now having come all the way from west Wales to listen, I hope, to some sense in this debate -- are seriously wondering whether it is worth continuing in the dairy industry because of the decades of inaction to which I referred. May I ask the shadow Minister to agree with our policy on this? I hope that we can persuade her to condemn what I consider to be a pretty vindictive attack by the RSPCA on our dairy farmers. I have here a letter from Freedom Food, which says: "Freedom Food members are required to apply all reasonable non-lethal and humane methods of wild animal exclusion/control -- the RSPCA believes it is unacceptable to use lethal methods of wild animal control as routine practice." Well, for a start, what is being proposed is not routine practice. To threaten a financial penalty for taking part in this is a breach of the RSPCA's charitable conditions. It would be helpful if the Opposition would join us in that view. I cannot believe that many Freedom farmers do not at some stage control rats, mice, rabbits, deer, or some other farm pest, and they should not be blackmailed by a charity in this regard. This is well said. The anti cull campaigners seem to have no interest in the plight