don't necessarily think we have. We've just refined it... Obviously, the first EP was kind of a stab at doing something and then as you go through you're trying to hone it, and I think that's what we've done. TH: You're trying to get your idea across more clearly. JA: Yes, just communicate better! You have got something to communicate, so you're literally trying to say it as succinctly as possible. With us, we've got quite a few reference points that are dear to us, but at the same time we have this intention not to just ape something. It's almost like a Rubik's cube attitude where we piece it all together. In terms of understanding what you want out of something, we have had times where that Rubik's cube has lasted for months and months! [laughs] The record was more fluid because, hopefully, we were a bit more in control. That ties into my next question - do you see Quarter Turns Over A Living Line as a culmination of all those previous records, and that you've been building up to this point? TH: I think it gave us a bit more freedom to open up a bit more. The previous record, Hennail , was a lot more percussion-driven, a lot more clenched. We felt with this, there's less percussion, more space and more tracks to get different sentiments across. When you're putting out two tracks, you're trying to say a lot in those two pieces of work. JA: