for resurrection! What need, according to the popular view [conscious life after death], for a rising from the dead, since a spirit commissioned from the "vast deep" would have been sufficient to communicate the warning? (Christadelphian, Christendom Astray, p35) False argument refuted: First we note that Paul went to paradise but when he came back he was not permitted to speak about what he saw! 2 Cor 12:4 "was caught up into Paradise, and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak". Obviously the many dead who were raised were forbidden to speak about the details of Paradise. But granting, for the sake of argument, that the dead are extinct, the influence of someone rising from the dead to warn about a coming judgement is no greater than the pre-existent Jesus (Jw & SDA view) coming down from heaven. Even granting the impossible Christadelphian view that Jesus had no pre-existence at all, they must still recognize that He performed miracles of raising from the dead and gave warnings, yet they rejected him. False Argument #4: "only rich man in Hades" Only rich man in Hades: Only the rich man was in Hades, Lazarus was not, being in Abraham's bosom False argument refuted: We wonder what this proves? Assuming that only the rich man was in Hades, that does not change the fact that the rich man was totally conscious apart from his physical body after death. But the text does not say that Lazarus was not in