it operates doesn't absolve TF of his responsibility to respect another person or group's clearly-stated desire for privacy. At this point, we can label FTB not only "not free" but patently irrational. They need to be abandoned and in large numbers. Given the threats to peoples' job, engaging them is not safe. Put their site into your firewalls as a blocked site so your computer is incapable of even accidentally hitting their site. So I take it you didn't read Natalie Reed's post? "This led to something really creepy and scary when Thunderf00t began threatening to publish the confidential contents of FTB's private listserv, to "prove" that I'd been "lying" about his behaviour. When I reminded him of the ethical problems with this, and hinted at the real danger it poses to me, he laughed and suggested that his treatment by PZ and FTB as a whole justified any actions he wanted to take." Bullies need to be held to account. FTB is doing this to many individuals. The Internet is littered with horror stories about the behavious of FTB's members. It's time someone stood up to them and was heard far and wide. How incredible that you're whining about bullying on a post where the goofball you're defending sneaked back into a private listserv after being booted in order to spread confidential correspondences around the internet. Your complaint about being "bullied" is the exact same level of self-indulgent whining as is contained in the Christian complaint that they're being