facts are: some folk are loaded, some folk have great ideas for parting them from that wealth. Let them get on with it. "shyte" I know what you mean. I went willingly, but thought that all items on the menu seemed to taste identical: like burnt mud*. But I hope you can see from my example how easy it is get the result you want in terms of "how much does something cost". Of course, it I was trying to prove quite a different point, I'd have incorporated the income I earnt whilst I was visiting. *I will stress that I haven't been to the Wellington Wag's, so cannot comment on the taste of their fare. Hi Dizzy @ 20, could you please explain how it is democratic that a government forcibly removes $56 million from the pay-packets of the workers at my local supermarket to subsidise rugby tickets that only the well-to-do have sufficient disposable income to afford? This subsidy to the activities of the NZRFU is corporate welfare. There are other meanings to the word democratic. I hope that also answers your next comment. RWC is free to air on TV and the parties are just outside your door. Me, I don't go to the Sevens, but I sure as fuck know it's going on. Why is it none of our business? Clearly, what we spend our money on, or whether or not we save it or spend it on RTDs and smokes is John Key's business. So