struggling mid table when in charge of utd or city, it's probably about time that YOU admitted defeat instead of blaming the game. Saved me a whole rant page myself Jake Its so annoying seeing people ranting about it. Clearly they are playing it wrong. If you know their are certain flaws, do something about it! Counter it. I have managed to, and ive got 101 games unbeaten so far (Admittedly I should as I am doing the moneybags challenge, but still). This is what I've been getting across for the last few days. FM13 is a quantum leap over FM12 in this respect. What was somewhat of a luxury thing in FM12, is a necessity. If you are not being proactive, you will most likely get humped.