the difficulties with getting land in more "well established" countries so it isn't totally out of the question __________________ "If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear as it is, infinite." - William Blake "We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tradegy of life is when men are afraid of the light" - Plato H2pogo, where do you live? I have wanted to form a cooperative for the past several months but don't know anyone else interested in such an endeavor. What sort of cooperative? You are probably just referring to a cooperatively-run business? I was looking into something much smaller, in fact just a local cooperative that acts as a hub for farmers in the area to distribute their produce, milk etc. Nothing revolutionary, really, but I think it could be run in a very intelligent way and strip off a lot of the fat from most cooperatives which become little more than a corporate owned, big-agro organic hippie center. As for Indonesia, I've always loved the idea of moving to such a place but unless an opportunity really convincing presents itself, I'd like to do this in the heart of the beast (USA). I live in Ireland. Was thinking of a sort of arts crafts type thing that could expand into a bookshop come cafe type meeting place selling snacks made from local produce..And doing a stall at festivals and shows.. I been thinking about it for a