the health-related concerns but, rather, because he was opposed to "a licence to allow my daughters to become promiscuous". In the world of these two men, *female* virginity is "a gift" and a promiscuous woman deserves a fatal disease for her errant ways. The only reason why a man would insist on a virgin would be to dodge criticism. ABC 4 ALP : 09 Feb 2010 4:04:06pm Exactly how many Coalition bashers are employed at the ABC? Where was the attack on Ms Gillard for NOT commenting on Rudd's preaching to our youth? Only praise for the vicious one. Where is the story on Conroy's disgusting appointment without challenge of his branch-stacking mate? B.Tolputt : 09 Feb 2010 10:27:07pm Oh for crying out loud - if people don't want to listen to / read from the ABC opinion pieces due to perceived "pro-Labor bias" (which over the last couple of days, include articles from two past Liberal leaders) - stop telling us you will look elsewhere and just go. The whole "ABC is biased, therefore I need not even consider what they are saying" thing is not only intellectually dishonest, it is outright annoying. Morrocks : Dave Ross : 09 Feb 2010 10:39:03pm ABC4ALP, Branch stacking is a pastime enjoyed by both Libs and the ALP and is legal. Kaiser was sprung by the Shepherdson inquiry into electoral fraud in the ALP. Electoral fraud is illegal. Kaiser is probably Rudd's appointment with Conroy taking the fall for wee Kevvie. justin