disgusting. Stephen Rothbart 18 November 2012, 10:55 pm Kolya, if you say that, that's fine by me. I was not looking for a fight with you. Re: my answer, I was being flippant. Don't take it seriously. I just wish, in an ideal world, that we could all argue our points without the personal editorialing. I respect you, Abu and Sarah and that is why I get upset when either of you (not Sarah) resort to personally insults, because when I get them from people like...well you know who they are, it just makes me disregard their arguments. A stinging retort is all the more powerful when it is through factual or sincerely held opinions that through an insult. Damon has a view most people with any balanced view of the world would hopefully reject, but he should have the right to express it, that's all I was really trying to say. You already know that I believe that someone who expects Israel to behave differently from any other democratic nation is probably influenced by something other than the rules of cricket, so we are not so far apart in what we both expect are Damon's views And if he gets dumped on that is OK, but I would just prefer it without the f-word is all! Stephen Rothbart 18 November 2012, 10:58 pm Excuse the spelling mistakes, long day did not edit until too late. Kolya 18 November 2012, 11:22 pm OK Stephen, I won't take it so seriously.