can't think that we'd ever allow that to happen in any civilized country though, so that's alright then. Don't mistake throwing money at things for hard thought though. Some groups like Answers in genesis have lots of tithe money to throw at things like animatronic dinsaurs which help spread the message to 'creationist children'. If there's a place for discussions about things like creationism in schools (and I don't agree that there is, plenty of useful things to be getting on with) the place is religion class, or at a stretch, civics. Creationism isn't a word that should be let into a science class, no matter what the provocation! Creationism is NOT science. I don't care how long they have "thought" about how they might shoehorn their BELIEFS into schools, it is still quite clearly nothing more than their BELIEFS. What absolute rot! Yes yes, we're all agreed that evolution is true, and that the biblical (or Qur'anic) accounts of creation are literally false and should not be taught any other way in science classes. This has been the case for at least the last 50 years. Other way round, Andrew. It's only over the last century that fundamentalism came into existence - it didn't even exist in Islam until the 1970's. Is it the passionately wrong child, or the dully indifferent one? Which would you rather argue with Neither: one will refuse to change their mind regardless of reason; the other is a bore. Which invites a question: does