this was always one of ideology trumpting reality. A site worker earning 10 an hour sees his wage decreased to 7. The problem is contained within that missing 3. And no amount of politricking can change this crucial fact. This is an issue that Labour will never have a solution to. Strong combatitive unions is what we need, a bit more brother and sister and a little less "colleague". It's our inability to defend ourselves against the bosses attacks that created the situation in the first place. In reality imported labour is no different from the "lump" labour that existed in the building trade in the 70's. By the way, remember "Auf Weidersehen Pet" this was the same thing but it was German workers being undercut by Brits. If workers aren't organised the boss class driven by profit will exploit us to the maximum and political parties of whatever hue that only wish to prop up the status quo rather than challenge it facilitate this sorry state of affairs. So we think of it as having a subservient work force you can treat as you wish by threats. Yet at the same time you would require them to wave the flag and be supportive of everything you want. You also state that it "has little to do with saving money", but go on to qualify this contradiction with "It's more than good value for money". I think you'll find that it is the same thing or you have no business