the greatest manager in the world for getting the best out of an average player but only when that player is surrounded by experience drive and leadership all characteristics that sometimes argue back and tell you that "your talking fucking rubbish Gov, cant you see we ave to many light weight and young creative players in one team and squad for fuck sake" Gallas! What a cry baby they said. Well said ice....i wanted to write about the Gallas thing, but i keep on forgetting... I remember when he sat on the grass and refused to be consoled when we drew at Birmingham(the game that would have put us 6 points above Manure and the game Eduardo's leg was broken)... I saw a real winner, a Tiger....this is the behaviour that the whole squad should carry so that next time they try to pre-empt teams doing come-backs at all when we lead like that....but he was labelled a sisi for gooness sakes... Gallas is real quality, it was very sad the armband was taken from him at the time it was.....i'm very sure Gallas tried to help in the tactical details.....STUPID COACH ice and boss, The Gallas situation you both brought up is possibly more important now than it was then...Gallas probably bit his lip for months before that about the mediocre players that were being selected, the performances of these players and then the tactical ineptness in general and particularly that game...no team, not even Barce can go out