interested and we thought Columbus was going to take me. "I talked with Burkie a half hour after, and he just wished me well. I talked with [Ron Wilson]and a couple other guys in the organization... They've been around this business a long time and they've seen players come and go. But I know with Wils and myself, we had a really good relationship and he really gave me a chance there. I was just happy that I got my shot here. "I really respected him, the way that he coached, in a very professional way. He just sort of got me and I got him and I respected him and the way he taught the game. He was great."