raise the issue before, but have they ever actually tried to put a number to show the number of people who agree with them, like a petition does? In answer to some of your comments, yes I am petitioning them to stop the loudness wars, but I'm also trying to petition them to start doing something -- to release as downloads uncompressed music in 16 Bit & 24 Bit format. This is not twice the workload for no additional sales. I honestly believe that if they did that and advertised it as the "best" it would create a new market sector and would grow as people would release the benefits of listening to music when it isn't compressed. Many people have stopped buying modern music because it sounds sh1t. I'm also convinced that people generally are not into their music as much, because listening to albums today, positively discourages listening for any period of time. People would also buy back issues of their favourite music if it was produced correctly. I don't know if enforcing a standard is the way forward, I always think that if they can be encouraged then that is the way forward. I honestly think there is a potential business opportunity here and that the record industry is just showing how slow it is to wake up to what people want, just look at how long it took them to get their act together and offer legal downloads. As for 24 Bit offering no benefit over