actually not saying Win8 is a failure, only pointing out the warts. It's only been out a month or so. And even the much maligned Vista sold hundreds of millions of copies. The idea that right wing media gets it wrong is not new nor does the fact that Fox News has a heavy bias make the MSM a center for objective reporting and a great source of unbiased news. The run up to the Iraq War and the NYT role in playing up the idea that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction should make anybody that pretends that MSM is unbiased and doesn't have an agenda reflect on the number of Americans killed and wounded in the conflict along with significant number of Iraq citizens. The general tenor of media coverage today finds terrorism plots behind every rock throwing demonstration beyond our borders and ask few if any questions about who and why drones are killing. Nor has anybody discussed at length the media hype regarding the Tech and housing bubbles that has cost millions of average citizens there life savings and now its all about debt and how the fiscal cliff will destroy our life. Please no more talk about the wonderful and unbiased MSM. ~~~ BR : The irony is that the bias of the NYT during the run up to the Iraq war was Right wing/NeoCon, not Left leaning. As to the impact of MSM in general, that was taken care of here: LOSE THE NEWS