the Arsenal goal then that would change very much. Then you go on and talk about Goetze and Cavani...Liverpool...what? Did the sun go to your head? 1. Show me exactly where I said here or anywhere else that I want Shay Given. I did not even "imply" that I want Given. I said that Given's numbers are better, and you know what? That's crazy. Given is one of the worst keepers in the League. 2. There's a subtlety in my critique you seem to be missing: the Arsenal defense is flawed, this leads to problems with Szczesny's numbers; Szczesny's numbers are so bad (WORSE THAN SHAY GIVEN), however, that they can't all just be explained away by simply saying that the defense is flawed. 3. I didn't "go on" to talk about Goetze and Cavani, I spoke about them significantly earlier in the piece. And I use the phrase "like Goetze" as in "a player of similar quality to Goetze" which, it seems many people take to mean "ONLY MARIO GOETZE BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND SIMILES AND SUBTLETY".