and was working for this race of reptilians in order to procure possibly a new form of body for my people, I would probably do as they appear to be doing in that, and just ignor what damage and destruction I was creating in order to achieve physical embodiment. Just some thoughts. Very interesting, but humans, as a a race, can be jerks, and I could easily see both of these being elaborate hoaxes. As for the whole lightspeed issues, funny things happen traveling at or near the speed of light. Any ET race could easily place "amps" at various vectors to boost signal speed, but this is all purely theoretical at this stage in our development. Also, could it be possible the crop circle solar system represents our solar system? That they're correcting our sun's size, and hinting at slight activity on earth/mars with heavy operations on/near jupiter? 9 planets seems like a strange coincidence. If I recall (might be way off here) jupiter's mass leaves it with some unique grange points (gravity wells, good hiding places). Only time will tell, but I don't think our government has any connection with the illuminati and any ET contact has been limited at best. Ultimately we're a backwater world and of little significance to whatever more advanced races lie beyond our solar system. I L-O-V-E YOU!!! I have been saying this stuff about crop circles being messages and codes from other beings for ages yet either people don't believe me or