starts speculating about the precise level of violation caused by various means of evading the consent requirement for happy, safe, adult sex, is sending off HUGE RED BLINKING DANGER SIGNS that this person is interested in pushing up against the precise levels of consent that one might be able to get away with without calling it rape. Who the fuck spends time thinking about that? Creepy people, that's who, people for whatever reason are more turned on by lack of consent than they are by friction or nice healthy consensual play around power dynamics. They happen in both genders but men are more likely to play it out violently. I didn't say you condoned lying to get someone to have sex with you. What I said was that you are interested in quibbling about the precise definition of rape, violation, and consent. Is that inaccurate? That's a rhetorical question. Of course it's accurate. If you said otherwise, you'd be a liar, but we already know you're a liar. You lied about this, and you lie about the stats, even when they are right there in front of us and we can tell that you are either incompetent at math or incompetent at lying.* "such as trying to convince the class of people who are most often victims of the hate crime known as rape or sexual assault that you, who are a member of the class of people who commit said hate crime, know better than them how to define