other way if coming into contact with pure beingness is longed for. you can't compare the freedom of such a meeting to meditation or an ordinary satsang, and imo it's got nothing to do with what is traditionally called "emptiness" or "stillness". it is a very powerful transformational vibe that makes people go into a kind of forgetfulness of themselves. tony of course reminded us it belongs to noone, but also said it comes from all the people gathering together in such a meeting. on the last day, many of us were left with nothing but a subtle feeling of being at home. it is still with me today. tony is very natural, authentic and approachable, and he sometimes walks through the room like a love drunken mystic from a rumi poem