but this seems to always have a fall out or a price you have to pay for that. A lot of songs are about trying to cross the void between what your aspirations are and what your reality is. We all go through these periods in our lives when we're in crisis or can't seem to find the answers we are looking for from the world. Sometimes we have to spend some time away from what is real or true while we wait for those answers to come and to us: that is the 'desert'. The recording sessions started last year so you had a great amount of time in the studio to craft your songs, has this made you become perfectionists? We have actually had to tone it down a little bit as it was starting to get a bit out of hand. The reason we have ended up doing all of our own artwork and videos was because we kept getting stuff back from people we had employed to do it and it wasn't what we were seeing. We have fucked off loads of people that way. I guess when you see something or have a vision of it, it's really important to stay true to that. Otherwise your at risk of it becoming just someone else's impression of your idea, you know it sort of loses its soul and its relevance, we really hard pushed to see any point in that. To be honest, it's about building