as are their talk of 'job creators' and complete aversion to infrastructure spending (yet another facet of society greedy corporations don't touch due to profit levels). Dodge says: 12:14pm | 14/09/11 Ahhh Malcolm... You can't sing a tune for months/years on end in a popularist grab and then realise the error of your ways and preach truth and accuracy - you're alienating your semi-literate base for a start. At least you probably feel a bit better on the inside now and I applaud that. Next time don't give wilfully ignorant shills ammo for so long. Thanks and all the best. Dan says: A very good point Malcolm, and one that should have been made months ago. It's not a tax. It's a penalty, designed to change behavior. We pay taxes in exchange for services - hospitals, police, the military etc. If we break the law, we're penalised. The penalties are there to create an incentive not to break them. And that's what the carbon price does. Penalises the top 500 polluters, for the carbon dioxide they produce over a certain level. Carbon dioxide contributes to global warming, which will cost us dearly in the long run. Why is this such a radical idea? The top 500 polluters are all enormous corporations, that are more than capable of absorbing this initial cost. They'll pass it onto consumers initially - but the incentive is there to start becoming more efficient. A price on carbon is a very simple, Keynesian market-mechanism. Even the