conversation about this. People coming up and saying, "why didn't Roger do anything?" That's one. And, "well, at least we know Don's a good guy, he did something." Don says it a couple of times: "The creative will win." "I don't care, I've got a great thing here, and I only have to win two of the votes and just wait until they hear this pitch. We don't need this extra insurance." Which is up for debate, but I think a lot of it is his creative confidence and arrogance. With Roger ( John Slattery ), when he hears that this has been broached with her and that she is amenable to it in some way -- as something as complicit as, "you can't afford it," which in negotiating language means, name a price; it's very different than "no" -- there's a moment of silence after Pete ( Vincent Kartheiser ) relays this information. That he's like, look, if she wants to do it? It's almost like he's been rejected by her, she has squeezed him out of the life of the child, that window has closed on their relationship, mostly due to his fault, although he probably never will see it that way. In fact, he's had many opportunities to make good on that relationship and hasn't, and he sits back and I think he's filled with resentment. He's, like, fine, she wants to do it that way, that's her, that's not me. I think it's like a spurned