that bright and shiny red shield with the X on it telling me to turn it back on. i feel like slaping the big B.G.-Man in the face. i bought my new HP 1 month ago, and it didn't even come with a flip-flappin' physical-in-hand Vista installation disc...that seems wrong (as well as another topic). there's a seperate partition, apparently, on my C drive for system recovery, but if that's ever Virusized... i've made recover back ups, and think i'm allowed to send for a physical disc (which i'm going to do), but why MS+HP didn't include a friggin' OEM registered OS disc is beyond my comprehension. -Skywarp, with best regards to all Skywarp: It's really an issue that old habits die hard. At least that was the case for me. I do a lot of video work and work as an IT on both PC's and Macs. My laptop is still XP, and will stay that way untill I get a new one, but not because I prefer it, but because I think it should run the OS it was designed for. Don't get me wrong, I cursed Vista when I first got it. It would crash non-stop. Then I did a total restore. As an IT there are few things more frustrating than talking to techincal support on the phone, since I've never found one that could help me beyond what I already knew or couldn't find out by googling it. That aside, I found that the problem