In case you haven't realised yet, Romney didn't win the election because of people like you - he lost because of people like you . And if there was a republican candidate that would have forbidden these things, then maybe he would have got some votes. But the English don't realize how popular these extra-judicial are in America, especially as they don't see the pictures of maimed, bloody, innocent kids on their TVs sets I think that there is a larger issue at work. Our thinking is being altered by a program of desensitisation implemented through the media, aimed at making us less horrified by the extremists of the right wing. Having successfully demonised socialism, right wing elements are now encouraging us to think of throwing out immigrants or denying them bread or healthcare as a perfectly normal part of politics. I can remember reading the famous piece by that anti-Christ John Yoo, justifying the use of torture in cases of suspected terrorism (this was the piece that gave the fig leaf to Cheney to suspend habeus corpus and right to a trial, and bring back the torturers dungeon again. The first time I heard it I was incandescent with rage....we stopped torturing people hundreds of years ago....but now we've heard about torture incessantly for the past 10 years, it doesn't even register...just another case of torture by MI5 or the CIA.... The same has been happening in other areas of social policy where its OK for a poliitcian to