cerebralvortex wrote: Please stop complaining I'm not complaining, I'm observing. I don't care what other people ski on, and I don't feel under pressure from those people who prefer wider skis. Horses for courses and all that. Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? clarky999 wrote: Mike Pow wrote: Farley Goode wrote: I didn't see the earlier thread so I find this interesting, not repetitive. I also got the subject straight off---must be something to do with the type of crossword one likes. (simple ones in my case ) What is fat ?? I am on rossi S86 (178) and they are just great (86mm underfoot) . The makers call them 50/50 piste and offpiste and I agree. And I see mine come within the recommended sizes by Mike Pow yet he says that was for groomed runs. The dimensions I quoted earlier and which I recommend to my students are for a ski that is suitable for both the piste and powder of Hokkaido - 125-135 mm in the tip, 75-85 mm in the waist. If I were to instruct in Europe then a larger waist profile of 85-95 mm may well be the go for improving skiers in typical European ungroomed snow. I think that's quite a good point actually - I'm assuming you have lots of lovely light soft snow as a base, under the new day's new snow? Presumably