back to Rum Jungle. Compared to that, The Australian has class, but it's still groupthink. paradise: 14 Jun 2012 10:35:51am You are a stranger to decency and honesty if you cannot understand certain "whys". The Australian is a rats' nest of half understanding, extravagant outrage and propagandistic rubbish, but is wasn't like that years ago. So many have given it up as it follows the developing putrescence of R Murdoch's so-called thinking. Most Australians do not live in a world defined by Murdoch's projections, but they are seduced to get on a queue or leap for the bus, just to be on it and without rational thoughts on why. Righteous indignation, barely suppressed egotism and heavily projected superiority do not make for truth abd decency. The Australian is a pompous and misleading product too often, merely a vehicle for the owner. and his ageing delusional imaginings. Gordon: 14 Jun 2012 11:41:29am Bollocks. The 4 Corners story of that people smuggler-turned fraudulent refugee gives the lie to your rant, as does plenty of non-left economic and social views expressed here on the Drum. Everybody would love their own particular ideas to get a better run in the media, but if you want simply an echo-chamber of your own views I don't see why anational braodcaster should provide it for you. RayS: 14 Jun 2012 12:00:35pm I think you should post a reference to peer reviewed research that shows the ABC takes a leftist position. No doubt one of the right wing