used an upgraded form. did gou just say Ginkaku and Kinkaku were weaker than choza and omoi? Wow i lost faith in humanity. They were descendents of the So6p and had the power to turn into mini kyuubi's with up to 6 tails. If naruto can keep up with the deva path with 6 tails imagine two ninja with full control with 18-20 other ninja. Re: Second hokage fans STOP! Well, I have to agree. I mean, people can like him and all, but I wonder why they're so stubborn to make skills that are not his own and suppose stuff. We didn't have enough of him so until we don't have an actual feat, we cannot suppose anything. Re: Second hokage fans STOP! Originally Posted by realobito1 First off kisame summoned an enough water to seperate them from any visible land and this was in a desert with only 30% of his chakra He never used bringer of darkness in the manga so does not matter to me and even if he had bringer of darkness tech kisame would just combine with sword and be able to sense his position. the dessert was a superflat that had uneven land so that a skilled water style user can fill it up easy