a male nom de plume and see how I go then, I take solace from the fact that I have two daughters studying engineering! When one of them got to her first maths class, several of the boys underestimated her ability, until the results came back time and time again: despite her delicate feminine appearance, she is a killer when it comes to linear algebra and concrete construction theory. Big Al : Observer : 21 Apr 2011 8:29:32am Why does something HAVE to be wrong? Perhaps something else is at work, and you haven't seen it. Men and women ARE equall, but they are NOT the SAME! Get over it! Always, there will be one gender that tends to do a particular task better than the other, because they approach it from different perspectives. It doesn't intrinsically make either wrong though.