immense pride because it's overwhelmingly for the good. and when and if i am (as i was) ordered to do something blatantly wrong - i won't do it. the problem with your conclusion is that if GOOD men don't choose to put themselves in that position, is that a better option? I think it is. It will take too long to explain here and today in proper detail, but basically, if good people refuse to participate in flawed institutions, the flawed institutions become hated by the people and lose their power. Take the KGB, for example. I'm sure there were guys who entered the KGB for all kinds of honorable reasons. And, I'm sure the KGB did do some good stuff in catching serial killers. But much of what the KGB did to preserve the Soviet Union was pretty horrific, and drove people with consciences out of the system. Did their departure make the system less humane? Yes. Did their departure hasten the demise of the Soviet Union. Absolutely. I've taken too much time of of work today. I'll write up something more detailed and throw it up on the Liberty Papers one of these months. I'll let you know when I do so you can see the full argument. ok, i just don't buy this. sure, the justice system is flawed. ANY institution that has people in it will be flawed because people are flawed. i would WAY rather have good men working in a flawed system than only