left." But there ARE others... H2pogo, where do you live? I have wanted to form a cooperative for the past several months but don't know anyone else interested in such an endeavor. What sort of cooperative? You are probably just referring to a cooperatively-run business? I was looking into something much smaller, in fact just a local cooperative that acts as a hub for farmers in the area to distribute their produce, milk etc. Nothing revolutionary, really, but I think it could be run in a very intelligent way and strip off a lot of the fat from most cooperatives which become little more than a corporate owned, big-agro organic hippie center. As for Indonesia, I've always loved the idea of moving to such a place but unless an opportunity really convincing presents itself, I'd like to do this in the heart of the beast (USA). Yes valid points OP, I have felt this way many times in the past and I think I really understand your motivations behind this thread. I've said it many times that humanity is at a critical moment of choice. The truth can be put quite simply - Either humanity has to disappear from this planet OR we move into a higher consciousness and experience a totally new being, a "new birth". The question remains on all of us, everyday, how are we assisting this awakening? Do we even fully understand it ourselves? It was a very important point you made as well I feel