Stones. What gave you the idea to start the Saturday Edge ? I moved here in '81. I got away from England, I was involved with a whole bunch of political things over there. Thatcher had just become PM and it was very rough. I applied for Canadian immigration, and someone here had offered me a job and I could bring all my records over with me. So then I was amazed how many heap records I could buy [here]. CiTR started putting together their top playlists around then, and we weren't on FM yet, and I thought it looked really interesting. And when it launched on FM, it was 1983 I think, and that got me into it. That was in the early days of Discorder , and one of the things that was advertised in there was if you were interested in being a DJ, they'd train you. But the station manager said that they didn't have any openings unless I wanted to do the folk show. Well I thought that was a bit of a stretch for me. I didn't know anything about folk music. But within about a month of that, I came across a whole bunch of people from the sort of folk and roots scene at the Railway Club, and I used to hang out at the Railway Club after work back when I had a proper job downtown. I came across Spirit of the West at that club. They were opening for Barney