about which I'm not sure myself, as the author, what the outcome will be. So how did people behave? What's absolutely beautiful is the way that people have occupied that space and become the absolute opposite of what capitalism wants us to be - passive consumers of spectacle, of information, of entertainment, of objects of desire - they become participatory and productive and cross-fertilising. Are you trying to make a statement? I've never wanted to make art with a message, but I think there's no question that many of my works, in different ways, are asking about the connection between humans and our environment. And I think that all my installations in cities of the naked human animal in effigy form - surrogate fossils, industrialised fossils - are asking, where does humankind fit? Now that we seem to be well into the sixth great extinction, how long are we going to contribute to the evolution of life? Those are very big issues. Can your work make a difference? Whether my work helps people think or makes people think, I can't say. It seems very clear to me, though. I'm interested in Easter Island because it's the only culture I know of that basically exterminated itself through the love of making large sculptures. Jared Diamond asked: what was in the mind of the man or woman on Rapa Nui who cut down the last tree? It seems the answer to that question is, "Well, I cut down this tree because that