the negativity and politics out of our city hall. They don't belong there. Dale, I'm sorry you hate liberally minded people. Moreover, I'm sorry you lump everyone who does not espouse the Troy Tea Party ideals into one category. You are missing out on knowing and working with a lot of brilliant fellow residents with wonderful ideas. It's been nice to meet you, too. Ellen, I don't hate anyone. I just disagree, sharply with those who are rude, politely with those who are polite. I prefer straightforward people like you and some others on your side to those who are deceitful on my side. From my point of view the deceit is much larger on your side. Did you see the hit piece on Martin? It was appalling, attacking his wife's family, his integrity and much more. Also, Dale, as for the Martin Howrylak mailer, no one here had anything to do with that. No one involved in Mary Kerwin's campaign even knows who that group in Lansing is. Equally disturbing to me was his campaign's "clean campaign" charade and his campaign'sl robocalls attacking Mary Kerwin. Her campaign won't even be issuing any robo calls. The politics here are ugly. Terribly ugly. So ugly, outside interests are jumping into the fray to our collective dismay. We can begin to get rid of that ugly by rejecting the partisanship. We need to get this horrible era behind us and mimic at the city governance level what we all experience day to