of mankind than... Maybe a bit more prolific than you. [laughs] Yeah, exactly. I'm willing to concede that. But time will tell. Yeah, exactly. But I think because the minute that personal computers were around, people wanted to use them to make music because you'd already had, throughout the sort of late 70s, you'd already had the sort of obsession with sequencers. People really were obsessed with sequencers and the possibilities for sequencers, like, sequencing synthesizers and stuff like that. Anyways, we had all these Ataris running Cubase... Back in school? Yeah, when we were about 13 or something like that. Wow. Yeah, totally. And I'm trying to think, maybe when I was 13 -- that was the first time I'd ever sort of seen that being done and it didn't really grab me that much until maybe I was, like, 15 or 16 because we'd sort of started getting into record buying quite a lot. By the time I was 16, I was obsessed with it, basically. All the money I had, it was just records, records, records. And unfortunately it hasn't really changed. [laughs] Yeah, so by the time I was 16, I remember going 'round to the studio with this dude we knew called Dave Stone, who ran Emotive Recordings and who's still involved in electronic music. He was in the studio with this guy called Ed Solo, who was quite a great producer at one point. And they were chopping up a sample. Because obviously all