collective. Whenever somebody's down -- or in this case, often two people were down, and the third always seemed to yell at us to keep going, "Get on your feet!" Sometimes we would all be down. There was this one period where we ended up saying, "Okay, this probably isn't going to happen. But why don't we read the script one more time. If there is any doubt in our minds, we'll let it go." And we all separately read the script, and we all separately had this elation from reading, and we were like, "Okay, we ought to give this one more chance." LW: The more we worked on it, the more intensely we loved it. To the point where there was this feeling, even after three years, that no matter what happened, somehow we were going to get this movie made. There would be huge, depressing setbacks and challenges where [financial backers] would say, "I'm in," and then a month later, they would go, "I'm out." And we'd say, "You can't, we have a contract," and they would say, "Sue us." I mean, like, that kind of collapse. AW: And this happened all the way up until the moment the actors were supposed to fly out to Berlin to start costuming. LW: We were supposed to deposit money in their accounts, and we didn't have it, because the bank wouldn't close the loan, because suddenly we had --  AW: We had a financing gap with one of our