to earn the right to do as you wish is that what you do causes no harm. That's all. It simply has to be neutral. The idea that we only accept things in life that are proven as unquestionably good is laughable. People are free to make mistakes too you know. We're all free to do whatever we like. "Inherent goodness" is a concept, nothing more. There is not secret truth behind it. Truth is just what is, without any judgement and without any opinion inflicted upon it. Homosexuality just is. So that's the truth. If you choose not to accept that then it's very much your problem, not anyone else's, and you most certainly do not have the right to enforce your views so as to restrict the free will of others who simply want to be happy. Hillary Conway : Fiona : 15 May 2012 4:16:20pm Great to heae from you. Now get ready for many posts which will try and mount some sort of argument that you would be 'happier' if you'd never been born !. I'm sure you must get so sick of uninformed people discussing you personal experiences, and proclaiming they know what is 'best' for you. People need to get it through their heads that gay couple already have children. They will continue to do so, regardless of when gay marriage is leagalised. So the 'doctors for families' won't achieve anything, accept appeal to bigots, and make themselves feel self-righteous. Society has changed, some