Pathetique sonata I've only had to do it for long chords, like the pathetique above, which is nice. And to attempt to answer the crescendo on a note: you just need to convice the audience that there is a crescendo on a single note to create an illusion. I think if one thinks there is a crescendo then that's all that is necessary. But only when there is something afterwards - not the last chord of a pieace. ansatz496 May 5 2012, 12:28 AM Shall we try vibrato next? BerkshireMum May 5 2012, 11:29 AM QUOTE(HanonMum @ May 3 2012, 12:39 AM) I love the forum! It is a great source of information from the forum members, and I find fascinating to hear your replies. Thank you all. Of course, you could do interesting things, I suppose, by playing the strings inside a piano , though maybe it is not highly recommended to try at home.... It was fascinating to watch the accompanist doing just that in the brass final of BBC YMOTY. It was a piece for French horn, but I can't remember the name of it. JimD May 5 2012, 11:49 AM QUOTE(BerkshireMum @ May 5 2012, 12:29 PM) QUOTE(HanonMum @ May 3 2012, 12:39 AM) I love the forum! It is a great source of information from the forum members, and I find fascinating to hear your replies. Thank you all. Of course, you could do interesting things, I suppose, by playing the strings inside a piano