to " A good time to join Labour." I made that mistake as a 18year old but saw the light as I grew up and my idealistic cliches turned into a realisation that socialism like slavery will one day be a thing of the past. Ah yes. I think that you are pretty much working against the tide of the last couple of centuries of history. You do realize that to a gentleman of the early 19th century that in every developed country that the political parties would all look socialist? Including the tea party republicans. Love it. Same people that have finished tearing the Alliance apart have now got Labour in their cross-hairs. I just hope we have the strength to withstand this hysterical minority. Pretty sure we do. Democracy has challenges but will set up us much better. Our membership are by-in-large sensible. We have set a new left-ward direction for the Party's policy and are getting behind it. Most of us. Would very much encourage people to join to help us and to be a part of setting our direction. But being a member does include an obligation of loyalty and solidarity to the cause above personalities, and above getting everything your own way all the time. Our membership is barely five percent of what it was immediately before the fourth Labour government drove out many members of the same ideological spectrum as the Standard's community. Some of us are the same people. I'd like to take