had two friends who both kind of got decks with me at the same time. We were fiercely, fiercely competitive about getting records. One of them is the guy who does the Sofrito label now, which is Hugo Mendez and the other one is my friend James Broomfield, who I've done parties with, and I still do every now and again do parties with. Both of them are still DJs. We're all still kind of fiercely competitive; it never changed. Definitely. Yeah, you're so protective, when you're that young, about it. Because back then it was so much more of a subculture, as well, than it is these days. Yeah, I guess so. I mean I don't know if it was ever really -- you know, I mean --  Perhaps, actually, over here it was slightly more mainstream because you actually had dance music all over the TV and radio and stuff. Where I grew up in New Zealand, it was very different. You'd only get a certain amount of records into each store, and so you might be one of two or three people in the country who got a certain record, and shit like that. I remember watching this footage of a really early Australian rave in the desert, and just thinking, "That looks so... brutal." It was like 10 people who look like they've been up for a few days and a guy just bashing psy-trance. But it looked intense. Like, I'd quite like to have been