need even *more* reliable electricity *both* day and night. Especially at night, when all our Electric cars will be charging and our extra oil-free trolley buses will be running. 4. The other question I am utterly gobsmacked that while politicians fight over global warming, there's been no real discussion about the other side of the coin, and that is that fossil fuels are finite. They're fast approaching peak production and are about to enter a terminal phase of ever harder to reach, harder to extract, and more expensive to get at fossil fuels. The first to peak will be oil, and that is going to cause so much pain to the world economy who knows what the national discussion will be in 10 years? The REAL challenge is far harder than people want to admit. We not only have to build enough clean energy to stave off a climate catastrophe, but we have to do it before peak oil takes away our economic capacity (and maybe even some of our energetic capacity) to build out the clean GenIV nukes we need to run Australia. How much building will we be able to do at either $200 a barrel oil, or -- if that price is an impossible burden -- simply *less* oil? Coal and oil are dirty and polluting and killing us and exacerbating climate change, but they are also approaching their twilight. So Henry Ergas tells us to ... do nothing? Errr....? about 1 year ago Tim Paton Automotive