to Christian pilgrims. Hodge pointed out that revivals are, by their very nature, extraordinary occasions and are not meant to be relied upon by pastors and laypersons to whom God has given the task of parental nurture and pastoral ministry. Likewise, pastors today ought not to rely upon revival or the vestiges of revivalism, but would do well to instill within themselves confidence in the ordinary means of pastoral ministry and into their congregants a sense of responsibility for the nurture and edification of their children. And in case readers are wondering, Old Lifers do make an appearance in this issue. 241 Comments D. G. Hart: Erik, experience is less important for me, in case you haven't noticed. An adult unbeliever does need to change direction in his life if you want to call that conversion. RS: But Matthew 18:3 says that one must be turned (by God) and become like a little child to even enter the kingdom. This is also not to mention the teaching of Jesus and Paul on the new birth. D.G. Hart: A covenant child who faithfully attends the means of grace and submits to parents should do anything but change his ways. He simply (though hardly simple) needs to own what he has been given by his parents and congregation. RS: But what can his parents and the congregation give him? Until the little viper is regenerated isn't s/he still dead in sins and trespasses and by nature a child of wrath? Surely something