risk. "Wow, imagine him in 1940, the war is lost, the continent is under German control and the USA will do nothing to help us, lets throw in the towel." Oh god, here come the WWII metaphors again.. Bannedbycastro, Afghanistan is one of the poorest countries in the world, they've been invaded numerous times by various different nations and frankly couldn't care less what our motivations were for invading in the first place. They are used to fighting occupying forces, and will continue to resist for as long as it takes, there is no 'victory' to be had here. There is only one way to deal with these sort of insurgencies and that is to do what the Romans and the british empire did. Wipe out villages, kill all suspects/suspected sympathiser. Since the level of threat from the talaban doesn't justify this sort of reaction we should just leave. If they become a serious threat bomb and kill them in the future. What we are doing in Iraq and Afganistan is contain ment the idea that they could win either conflict while trying to protect civilian life is a joke. In an insurgency the civilians are the threat. thetrashheap: "There is only one way to deal with these sort of insurgencies and that is to do what the Romans and the british empire did. Wipe out villages, kill all suspects/suspected sympathiser. Since the level of threat from the talaban doesn't justify this sort of reaction we should just leave. If