you have to get what you want constantly. I realize it may be hard but I am sure that if you are good enough you can win as it has been shown by other women. Prometheus : 20 Apr 2011 1:54:00pm The logic of stating that men are 80% better than women is the same logic as thinking that if there is a 1 in 100 chance of something happening, it must happen on the 100th time. Each time a decision is made, the merits are considered. If you want to boil it down to the basics, in each year it was "boy / girl". I think that to even suggest some kind of unconscious bias is insulting and ridiculous. Do you want quotas? Do you want a Women's Miles Franklin? Like with most activities in society, women can often be relegated to traditional roles. The challenge to our society is to recognise that all roles and responsibilites fall into a big bucket with no-one's name on it. We each have to take responsibility for ourselves and our families. As generations go by, we will gradually figure out that when men and women share the burden for daily life, women will have greater freedom to achieve and will be more prominent in public life. Until then, it will be "daddy works" and "mummy works and helps around the house". Not a great outcome for either gender. Roger : tonyM : 20 Apr 2011 1:51:27pm Alison, the problem is your last