pollen transfer, as I said, is limited and, even if it did occur, it can be managed by existing agricultural practices. Senator HEFFERNAN ?With great respect, if you think that there is a probability of segregating GM canola from non-GM canola and it building up in the seed base, I am afraid you have not been on a farm. Dr Meek ?I have already pointed out to you I am not talking about segregation here. Senator HEFFERNAN ?No, but this is tied up with the environmental side of it because, as you know, birds will come along, pick a few seeds, fly to the nearest powerline and drop their message in the paddock next door and that is how it spreads and that is how the direct cousin of canola?the wild radish?spreads. Dr Meek ?We have looked at the probabilities of that occurring in great detail in the risk assessment and risk management plan. We have concluded that the likelihood of that occurring is relatively low and? Senator HEFFERNAN ?I will take you for a run around the Riverina and show you under the powerlines where it occurs. You are presenting farmers with a nightmare. Senator CHERRY ?How can you say that, when the European Environment Agency said the risk of transfer to weedy relatives is quite high in canola? I have studied, as you can see, the various British studies which seem to completely cut across your entire analysis. Already I think your analysis is completely dated. Dr Meek