invest. Brown's blueprint before he was highjacked by Ebbw Vale and the WRU WAS the way forward But that's the old days............... Keith Barnett I cannot believe that any CEO would say it will take us about 8 years ( 2020) to get out of this mess . Where else in business could companies take this time. I agree it needs a year or two but not certain I can keep my season ticket going this long to be competetive in the European Cups ???. What other major sports management team could ask for 8 years to get competitive and still be in place 24 hours later ? I cannot believe that any CEO would say it will take us about 8 years ( 2020) to get out of this mess . Where else in business could companies take this time. I agree it needs a year or two but not certain I can keep my season ticket going this long to be competetive in the European Cups ???. What other major sports management team could ask for 8 years to get competitive and still be in place 24 hours later ? cambridge4x4 Cam they've obviously thought about it - have you? Sounds to me like they're just trying to be realistic and showing a bit of respect to the supporters by not trying to kid them with unrealistic promises. There's no guarantee that it will happen by 2020 either. None of the Welsh regions has been successful in Europe