of a time to call the police and then not come into contact with the suspicious person. I think actually intervening is very provocative and predictably would often result in fights and tragedies, so should be done when suspicions are dispensed with and we actually see someone under attack . I think I must specify what I mean. The reasonabless to which I refer does not mean the reasonabless of force used against Trayvon, (or even to find out where the kid fled, though I have a decided opinion about that and so does the law) but the reasonableness of suspicion that led Zimmerman to suspect him, and to call police to report a suspicious person. If it should be established that Trayvon had been involved in break-ins and stealing or assisting same, then any doubt about Zimmerman's description or account of Martin's behaviors must fall in Z's favor. Also, since Zimmerman didn't know about this school discipline issue, I don't think it actually proves his suspicions were justified. They weren't his justification for his suspicions, after all. The school discipline need not be known by Zimmerman for it to have relevance to Z's reactions. It simply lends credibility to Zimmerman's relayed observations. He thought it looked as though the kid's appearance and actions showed a druggie moving in unlikely areas peering into homes as if up to no good. His description is on the tape. It's not all about the hoodie. If Martin is established to be a thief,