itself condemned by the international community for failing to act against terrorism. Peter 17 November 2012, 2:37 pm Penny, the last thing I would want is for the corrupt UN to start imposing so-called 'international law' on countries that its apparatchiks think are not using the 'correct' military response to attacks. damon 17 November 2012, 2:39 pm Mods, as you are holding all my posts back I can't reply to these silly accusations in good time. And by the time you do, they appear up-thread and so probably aren't seen. Both DCook and Peter jumped to the wrong conclusion about what I said about the OP writer -- who comes from England, having more right to live in Jaffa (for example) than the guy from Jaffa I spoke to once, who was stuck in Gaza because he was the wrong religion. I've said I think the rockets from Gaza fired into Israel are totally unacceptable, and that I thought bombardments of civilian areas of Gaza were even worse -- now, because they do so much more damage. You cannot bomb in urban areas without causing terror and collateral damage. I find it quite bizarre that I get howled down .... (and moderated by Sarah and Alec), for making such innocuous points. Shame on the people who bring bile to every discussion of I/P. anon 17 November 2012, 2:40 pm Jimbo, Q -- Why did the snakes leave Ireland? A -- Who'd stay? I'm guessing you spent much of your youth