they'll be any good for the child. Aimee : 16 May 2012 1:33:48pm Who's ideals are you talking about Me too? When you say 'he' are you falling again on religious institutions? There is no place for religion in law, if we followed religious beliefs we would be doing things like executing wives who arent virgins (Deuteronomy 22:12-21) and many other ridiculous things. Ideals are personal and whilst you have yours, others are entiteld to theirs. Children with same-sex parents have access to both female and male role models in grand parents, aunties, uncles and the entire loving families network they're a part of. When you talk of this family model you are speaking from your own beliefs as it is well proven and documented that children in same-sex families are no better or no worse off than those with hetro-sexual parents. Dysfunction...?? did you read the article above? What was disfunctional about that story? That it didnt fit with your ideals? To me it sounded as though those children had extrememly loving, functional families. Stop pushing your religious beliefs and values into law and the social sphere. Families come in many different shapes and sizes- No one is better or worse than any other. Love and support is what ultimately binds a family, not the sex of the people in it. Jade : 16 May 2012 7:02:35am How many children do you know that are born of a heterosexual couple that were accidents or not planned? It happens all