well for women or workplace minorities. So, if that sort of behavior is taken as a model, its application is going to be limited. Which would amount to what we often accuse other societies of tolerating: a terrible waste of human capital. I went to college in Muenster, Germany. We had an optometrist that would only let 2 people at a time into the store. Then he put 3 frames for glasses in front of you. If you did not like any of them, you could go home. Nobody ever left without a recommended frame because he guy had an eye for what his custmers should wear. I guess he was a jerk too, but why was there a line outside the store every day? I once had a boss/customer that made my life miserable every day. I'm glad we parted ways, but in the meantime he taught me more than any other mentor/entrepreneur I have ever worked with. I learned from his successes as well as his failures. Thanks Rick, it was a pleasure (sort of). You readily note Mr. Job's ethical and legal challenges yet your final analysis is that the Golden Rule is a made-for-wimps copout. There is an accounting for one's life and gaining two out of three of the higher trainings of the Noble Truths leaves a great deal to be desired, me thinks. Too bad Steve cannot provide a current status regarding the lack of ??la. Spend time with your family, enjoy your vacations