suck up money and die. He was talking about existing companies, which understand that the GPL isn't always the best open source license. Like, you know, google. Or Apple. Or IBM. There are people here that look at the world totally differently than I do. There have been some hardcore differences of opinion based on differences in outlook. There have been cases in the past where the opinion that someone is insane has been expressed. But I have never thought that a difference of opinion was a result of folks here being "dumber as toast". I have agreed with people that have expressed the opinion that someone was maybe young and could do with a little more experience in the real world. &gt; Difference sussed when he used the term "hardcore principled organizing". That kind of rhetoric only comes out of the mouths of people with the psychology of cult followers or would-be cult leaders. The world is ruled by such people and always has been. Current policies, such as emancipating women and so forth, are a reflection of wild eyed fanaticism, which we don't recognize as such because the crazed fanatics are in power. If, however, one looks at the present from the past, reading old books on political issues, it is apparent that cultists always rule, and the only question is which cultists. We have had better, and have had worse. The current lot, however, is pretty bad. Theocracy is the natural state of europeans. Used to be