at all. Now, will somebody please put forward an argument for why he was not at fault (along with others, agreed) for the second goal? It was a generic comment, not one aimed at you. And I have no problem with your disagreement - I just don't agree with it. I was talking about those who reject criticism of Guly, however valid, by accusing the critic of being a Guly hater. There's plenty of it on this thread and it often descends into the pig-ignorant (Fordy) and the rather childish (Smirking). If they don't have a counter argument beyond "You're a Guly hater", perhaps they don't have a counter argument at all. Now, will somebody please put forward an argument for why he was not at fault (along with others, agreed) for the second goal? Apart from the fact I countered your Guly arguement of course ? And the fact that Rio had a free header, a FREE header in the box, and that RVP reacted far quicker than the two saints players near the post ? Both far more critical than the fact that Guly failed to close down a man that Rodriguez really should have dealt with ? So yes, ignoring the other points, which obviously you need to do in order to suit tge point your making than Guly is at fault. As I said, similar to Fratton where Ward again had a free header as Adam failed to pick him up, conveniently forgotten as Guly didnt