step back. Ease up. It's pretty stupid to say all libertarians are Paultards. Ronald Reagan, being a California conservative, knew and often spoke of libertarians (the real ones, not the Paultard dope and sodomy heads [edit: with more than a touch of crazy]) being a key part of our coalition. PowerToThePeople I always refer to one group versus the other group with libertarian (nutjobs) and Libertarians ( not so nutty) as I know there is a difference between the libertarians above and those who use common sense and have common sense approaches. Got tons of Libertarians in my neck of the woods and love em all. They also have no use for libertarians and Paultards. Sorry, will make sure I clarify the difference in the future. ttp://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens Because I know acat has libertarian tendencies, but acat's no Paultard. Not even close. And Finrod has gone to war against the Paultards around here, too. lineholder From the Institute of Justice website: ttp://www.ij.org/massachusetts-civil-fo\\... Just with what I know of their reputation, PTTP, they don't take a case UNLESS there is substantial evidence to support it Also, the plaintiff, i.e. the US Gov't, has been pushing settlement of this case. A judge has denied that request There is enough evidence at this point (key phrase) to indicate that fraudelent activity on the part of the plaintiff does exist. Otherwise, the Judge would have resolved the settlement in Dec, 2011. PowerToThePeople and as I have said from the beginning, if there is