it's back sometime in the future when it is done. I know this has been said by more folks than Gareth, but unfortunately I believe he may have an excellent point here. In spite of what the leadership at Adobe believes, I think the executives are searching for the same path to irrelevancy that Novell found in the mid nineties. They now must do something dramatic and repair the damage they have done with deeds, not words. Adobe can't have it both ways, especially after the terrible manner in which they have handled Steve Jobs, the market, and finally, their own community and customer base. Clean house. Get rid of the current leadership, find a fire breathing evangelist from within that can lead with a clear vision, and release every damn thing under the Adobe proprietary agreements having to do with ActionScript and the Players. Including AIR. Then as others have suggested, go to work on creating tools that will take any SWF or ActionScript/FLEX project written to a specific standard of coding practices and render it as HTML5 output. Sell this as toolkits and server technology so that we could deliver THE BEST solution according to the client's needs. I could sell a strategy like that because it makes sense. So start to look for what will work Adobe, it took about 5-8 years for Novell to cede it's market domination to Microsoft. Things move faster now, and though you may think you are catching the next wave, why