rather than try removal tools, is just to flat out install a CLEAN image or use a cloned HDD (I guess some might call that "nuking"). Swapping out a cloned CLEAN HDD or restoring a CLEAN image may take about 20 minutes. Not bad when you consider using malware removal forums and tools may not only take more time, but you're never going to know if you "got it all". Using a CLEAN Image or Clone, you don't have the worry. The only time using malware removal tools makes sense is if the victim does NOT have essential data backed up, and the only chance to save that data is with a malware removal tool. Backup, backup, backup!!!!! Is Linux "better" than Windows? Those arguments, just like the browser wars, are perpetual, and each side has it's studies to support THEIR argument (never mind that most studies are either paid for by Microsoft or Canonical . . . follow the money.) Each OS has its advantages and disadvantages. I am just more comfortable with Linux (YMMV), and DO believe it's more secure (but certainly NOT 100% secure.) Would I impose my belief that Linux is more secure on someone else or otherwise argue it with a Windows user? No. Would I explain what I think are the advantages and disadvantages of each? Probably. (BTW, Linux has some nice built-in tools . . . the tar command for one . . . to make images. You don't need to go out