the drive? Yes I saw those on ebay.de but shipping from Germany isn't any cheaper than from the UK, cross border shipments within Europe generally cost roughly the same. Also, despite I generally like the fact that Switzerland is not part of the EU in this case it's a disadvantage because on top of the shipping costs I would have to pay customs duty and VAT (and hefty admin fees to the Post or the courier for doing the customs formalities). So I'm waiting for a EX5R to show up locally (also to be able to see and test it before buying it), I was just trying to find out what currently would be a fair price for a EX5/EX5R. I will keep an eye on that German EX5R auction, as that is a good opportunity to find out the current market price for it. Yes there are a lot of disadvantages to be in the EU but we certainly win where shipping something from another EU country is concerned. By the way, absolutely hate your speed cameras! bloody things are all over the place! The first and ONLY time I have ever been flashed by a speed camera was in Switzerland and that was on the E35 coming out of a tunnel at 90kph. General consensus seems to be it's all about revenue collecting and nothing about safety. Never did get a ticket for it though so guess I can't complain too much Saul wrote: By the way, absolutely