the questions, around the value of tobacco, was a fairly straightforward one; I would have thought that you could provide me with that response within that 30-day period. For future reference can I just point to that standing order that says you have 30 days to reply? Mr Burgess : Sure. Senator DI NATALE: The other inconsistency -- and I just wondered if you had a response -- is that I asked you a question in May about the value of the holdings, but you provided me with an answer that was valid as of February. Is there any reason that you did not provide me with the current value, as at the time that I asked the question? Is there any reason for providing me with the answer up until the February period? Mr Burgess : Absolutely not. We are very keen to be transparent on this. I think that we just assumed that the question was around the February period, to be honest. Senator DI NATALE: Okay. I just wanted to know that. I want to go to the ESG issue and the question of the ESG policy. As the fund applies it, it emphasises continued engagement with companies through voting rights rather than through direct exclusions. Again, I want to ask you a question that I have asked previously, and that is whether you have seen any improvement in any of the tobacco companies that you have invested in as a result of your ESG approach? Mr