they are not patriarchal interlopers? they are after all part of the ONLY force of oppression. Leopards......spots.....and all that! I remember the public arguments when the proposal to change the law was first argued. It is wrong to claim that it was seen as outdated. On the contrary there were articles and letters in the papers at the time arguing that the idea that a husband could rape his wife was a ridiculous one If it wasn't seen as outdated, it wouldn't have been changed. And you will get people writing articles and letters in the papers supporting pretty much any ridiculous idea - doesn't make them the majority, just a vocal group. The change in the law was a huge milestone. It's wonderful it happened. But it is awful that it had to happen, and that we had the shame of a law based on archaic precedent hanging over us for so long. You could not be a feminist and think marital rape (any kind of rape) is ok. To suggest that is a radical position is disturbing to me. What on earth would be the non-radical 'feminist' position? Honestly Eats, I really do not know why you persist in starting all these ridiculous threads. Is it because you are trying to derail FWR? Is it because you hope to look clever and knowledgable? Is it because you are bored and/or dim? Who knows. I am pretty sure that your motive is not to strengthen Feminism - as you