the Conservatives within the coalition, not least on civil liberties matters in the response to the riots. Delegates have it in their power to reject what many see as the "Toryisation" of our conference with lots of panel discussions and set-piece speeches. Unlike the other parties we pride ourselves on making our policy by proper debate, not spin doctor diktat, and by saying what we think by counting votes, rather than timing the length of ovations. Comments Contrary to the Clegg/Laws/Alexander faction in the Liberals, Evan does seem to hold true to some principles. Sorry to see that lost his place in Westminster through feeling being a constituency MP was beneath him and failing to respond to voters' letters and emails. Have we really become such a community of sleep-walkers? What a typical nature of policymaking in the Liberal Democrats discussion. The answer is straightforwardly 'you must be joking'. Am afraid Clegg hasn't had an original thought in his life, never mind an active one. Wake up, The Liberal Democrats. You're the most ridiculous of all. They can stick this in their pipe and smoke it as far as I'm concerned!!! Evan Harris is old Liberal. He speaks , acts and thinks like a fair minded Liberal. However , his leadership has moved on . They are camped in the centre of the Tory camp. Positions, limos, wages, future prospects in the Lords or Brussels are part of the 'power corrupts' adage. I wish Harris success, but the rank and