let alone explain Rudd's plan, can you? Abbott's plan can be immediately understood and implemented without crippling our power providers and industry with a tax that will be passed onto us. Every-one of us can get involved with immediate improvements to our environment and benefits for farmers and at the same time meet our international obligations. Yes, by all means post the slogan ant: A VOTE FOR ABBOTT IS A VOTE AGAINST AN EMISSIONS TRADING SCHEME (Lots of Laughter does not mean I have lost the argument ant, I was describing my true reaction to your previous rant) ant : 17 Feb 2010 5:45:42pm Howard did not try to introduce too much too soon, what he did was try to take Australia back to before the shearer's strike, before there were unions or a Labour party or any of that troublesome stuff. This is why the Liberal Party exists, to undo any social progress that might have been made under a Labour government. Mark my words if they ever get back in power any time in the next ten years they will sell off Medibank Private which keeps the cost of healthcare down and then they will turn Medicare itself into an American abomination, with the universal aspect of it gone and community boards and charity hospitals added on. They will bring back workchoices which is also based on an American model of low wages, long hours,no job security, no rights and protections in the workplace and a war on