its about taking freedom away from US citizens. Take from the haves, and give to those who don't have-America was not built on this sensibility, and it will fall if we adopt it. And, sadly, the left, folks like you, want nothing more than to see American crawl before the socialist states of Europe, who happen to be turning more capitalistic in nature as I type. Do you know the unemployment levels of Western Europe? Spain, 18 %, and France, for years, over 10%-a Socialistic approach to life crushes the tax payers-the few that actually pay the taxes and for the masses who enjoy the free ride, well, they've become accustomed to taking what is handed out to them. You, should move to France and let us get back to growing America. PS: Medicare declines more folks than the private sector does-go learn your facts, and stop swallowing the sound bites from NBC and CNN. TinaB | 10.19.09 @ 6:31PM Pete, you said "This is not about healthcare, its about taking freedom away from US citizens. Take from the haves, and give to those who don't have-America was not built on this sensibility, and it will fall if we adopt it". Do you really think that Obama is focused on "taking freedom away from US citizens"? I mean really, that's a pretty big statement. I don't know, just as you don't know, what his motives are. But the majority of America voted for him, and he is now in office,