a home grown database app but DO I need it to run on startup. Is there ANY way to run a home grown app from either 'Startup' or the registry without getting this 'Unsigned' message? We're just making the transition to Vista and I'm under the gun to get this out to 450 users ASAP. All of you techies who pontificate about UAC being good for the average joe computer user don't have a clue. It is a nightmare for Joe Computer User who doesn't have a techie perched on his shoulder. There is no one on the planet who benefits from UAC except the MS beholden techies who get to charge for comforting the non-techies who are tangled up in its jungle. If you want Joe Computer User to start liking Vista, you better help him shut off UAC forever. Thanks, Geek, for posting this path out of the jungle. Consider this -- I'm logged in as administrator on my laptop (Only I ever use). I try to perform a file change or open certain folders. The OS refuses to allow me to do either very fundamental operation. UAC is already turned off. The simple truth is Vista is a dangerous mess that should be withdrawn from the marketplace. When I read Sid's input...my first thought was...."this guys a techie". It seems the only ones who back Vista are M$ people or techies. Spacegold you hit the nail on the head. It's all about the money, but there is