Transcript TRANSCRIPTION: PROOF COPY E & OE DATE: 25 September 2012 TITLE: Transcript of Interview - Lyndal Curtis, ABC News 24 TOPIC: Public Sector Efficiencies. LYNDAL CURTIS: Gary Gray, welcome to ABC News 24 . GARY GRAY: Thank you, Lyndal. CURTIS: You've announced savings of $550 million over four years in further Public Service efficiencies but you have to turn a $43.7 billion dollar deficit into a $1.5 billion dollar surplus in one year.  These savings are just a drop in that bucket, aren't they? GRAY: These savings are part of making sure that our public sector is as efficient as it can be and these savings are also about targeting activities specifically.  They're not about targeting jobs, they're about targeting activities.  We believe we can find this money and we believe that will be a substantial contribution to the good governance of the country. CURTIS: But outside major defence acquisitions staffing is the biggest cost in the Public Service or one of the biggest costs in the Public Service, isn't it and if you make real cuts you're going to have to, at some stage, have an impact on jobs? GRAY: No, we believe quite the opposite.  We've found savings of in excess of $13 billion over the last four years.  We've done that through better ICT management, we've done it through better people management and we've done that through slashing Government advertising. Now we believe that there are some more quality areas that we can go in this