Obviously the best thhing to do would be to live and let live. And IMNSHFO, I wouldsuggest just letting the ideas survive (or not survive) piecemeal. It's already happened- lots of people borrowed from Scn who don't refer to the Scn or Dn branding. It kind of reminds me of the Puritans. They were persecuted for their beliefs and made much mention of that, but they persecuted others. They were very intolerant. You make what I feel is a good point there. There is old OT, new OT, original Hubbard drug-fueled ranting lectures which have since been sanitized. Ron did say some of his stuff was changing and "improving", and he also stole ideas from subordinates along the way. So ... Ron said some of his stuff had been eclipsed and replaced with a better version. So he makes mistakes. He knew it was alright to change whatever he wanted. Yet, he is Source, so no one else is good enough to make their own way with admittedly flawed ideas. That kind of leaves the freezone screwed and in the end, no one had anything good to work with, try as they might. Still no OT. Guys, it's been 60 years. Experiment over? Re: I had to change my mind about Indies/FZers and their behavior &lt;snip&gt;... ... Ron said some of his stuff had been eclipsed and replaced with a better version. So he makes mistakes. He knew it was alright to change whatever he wanted. Yet, he is Source,