may well find the mobile side is now fine.  We will be tackling the mobiles very shortly anyway, to make sure this fix is in place for when they also start to write data. Graham I am still in trouble. I cannot get the sync to work yet. A new route drawn on my desktop wth Windows 7 will save locally. If it is then saved to cloud I am not able to down load it into my laptop running on XP Pro. It worked when I first loaded 161 on my desktop but not now. It seems to be alphabet sensitive. Files starting with letters before "p" have a better chance. I have 31 routes out of about 57 which have transferred to my laptop. 44 old ones have downloaded to my iphone. The other interesting thing is that on the destop I have these grouped under folders such as Lakes, Peaks and Home. This does not transfer to the laptop. In fact when I select - User data - Manage - new folder - folder name - Lakes (for example) - Ok. I get "The specified path. file name  or both are too long" etc. Please help Bill July 31, 2012 18:03 Graham Hughes Anquet Community Hi Bill, I would like to investigate this, as if it's not rock solid for all users, it's not a lot of use... Would you mind submitting some data to us, then I can get Roland to investigate the issue.  Could you