Giubilini and Minerva. Let's be very very clear. Infanticide is a criminal act in every civilised country I know of. Including the Netherlands. I wonder what the courts would have to say about anyone putting Giubilini and Minerva's ideas in practice. Or about the authors' encouraging of ageist crime. Joree At least in that respect she is in good company. Savulescu has failed to spot the obvious -- that the Netherlands Groningen protocol is about euthanasia, NOT infanticide. The rubbish that is sold as academic editorial is unbelievable! Joree The Netherlands does NOT practice infanticide! Not legally anyway. The Groningen protocol sets up conditions for when euthansasia [clearly distinguished from infanticide by the authors] will not be prosecuted. However, your point is valid. Just because someone else does it, that doesn't make it right. Joree Indeed, substitute 'blacks' or 'muslims' for 'infants' in this article, and you're in jail before you know it. As did the student who twittered abusive comments about Muamba. And rightly so. If you think you can substitute "black people" or "muslims" for "infants", you've kinda missed one of the major premises of the argument. And it's not incitement. Can you not tell the difference between "I wonder if this is permissible..." and "Go on! Do it!"? *sigh* Yet it's an implicit devaluing of disabled people, when that is one of the issues we're discussing, and it was an instance of moderating those taking issue with the paper, while giving a pass to those supporting it.