hit for both The Pearls and First Choice. In 1983 I was involved with the UK's Eurovision entry, I'm Never Giving it Up by Sweet Dreams, which came sixth in the finals held in Germany. Recently I have had my work covered by rap artists Redman & Missie Elliot on the gold album "Malpractice", on a song called Dat Bitch. This is a far cry from Rupert, but as a songwriter you never stop writing, so I have covered a wide range of musical styles, and I hope to continue till my pen runs out of ink. OTT : How do you regard the shows now, and how does it feel to know that your song is what most people normally think of first whenever Rupert Bear is mentioned? RON ROKER : The Adventures of Rupert Bear was a major triumph for producers John Read and Mary Turner, and I am still eternally grateful to them for using our little song. About Christmas time in the year that the show was first transmitted, I happened to be window-shopping outside the Selfridges in Oxford street. They always did a toy window display, and this was beautifully displayed as Nutwood with the bendy toys of Rupert and other characters. In front of the window were two children with their mum, when they saw Rupert they shouted out to mum: "Look Mummy, it's Rupert" then quietly began to sing the tune. I walked away with a feeling of joy that I still remember