to then follow through on. So the president was dedicated to that Court, but he also knew that it wasn't prime time for it to go to ratification, just as it took 40 years for the genocide convention to be ratified. But in general, should the U.S. be part of an International Criminal Court that holds people who have committed genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes accountable, rather than setting up little, individual, ad hoc tribunals that are very difficult to do and very expensive. And the answer is, in principle, yes. And our Congress has for decades been in favor of that. The Republican Party used to be in favor of that. This particular statute has got some problems and that you can debate the problems. I personally think that the likelihood of an American official ever being hauled off to The Hague are very small. But that then brings you back. None of this is about logic in Washington; it's all about bureaucratic politics and politics-politics. And the bureaucratic politics, as David said, have to do will we ever get the military on board with the idea that they like this, maybe through some education. But I personally think that's going to be tough to do unless changes are made. But then at just the broad political level it actually gets back into -- your overall theme, Jeff, is -- are the American people ready to sign up to a treaty where we're saying we are willing