possible to ban abortion, kill the safety net, and ask "how high" to the filthy rich and the corporations they operate. It was rejected. The only way for conservatism to win a national election in America is for conservatives to pretend to be centrist or even liberal on several key issues. Being against the actual safety net, as conservatives are, is electoral suicide. Being a totalitarian against a woman's right to choose, is key to yet another double-digit loss among women voters. On issue after issue, the conservative position is in the fringe. A Republican presidential candidate will only succeed in the future if he does as Bush did: hide his conservatism or disguise it in progressivism. It speaks volumes about just how hollow your ideology truly is if it can't stand up in the light, but must instead hide in the darkness like a cockroach. You really get tied up in your definitions of Conservatism. Is "Compassionate Conservatism" not Conservatism? Were Bush, Sr. of Jr. not Conservatives? If you adopt the Tea Party definition; then you're probably right. But you can define any political movement to alienate the vast majority of Americans. And yes, the left has their crazies too. But more than a definitional problem; I think you're looking at a split in the Conservative movement. In broad strokes you have the Social Conservatives & the Economic Conservatives. They do not necessarily agree on the main policies to be adopted by the Government. The SC are what you