for men as well. And then you've got this Chris O'Dowd type character,  just a normal dude who likes to drink and likes to look at chicks you know? Which is a lot of us, sort of the male population of the world, and it's just played into our favour. But Chris and Deb being the two leads is sort of, not your typical two leads. Well they're not Vincent Vaughn or Jennifer Aniston you know, but they're sort of better -- because they're real, and you fall in love with them and you want to be them, you know? So, I don't know, something, something just happened. America is a touchstone for the civil rights movement, definitely, for Aboriginal people America comes across as this kind of exotic promised land in The Sapphires. How central was that to telling the story? America is a touchstone for the civil rights movement, definitely for Aboriginal people. The civil rights movements was, of course, started way earlier than that, but it mirrored the American rights movement. So it was a bit of a catalyst because you had these people of colour in another country marching for basic human equality. And that's what aboriginal people were getting at that moment. It was something not to look up to, but just to compare where these different worlds were and just to say, "Okay, if these people are doing that, we can do this". So, not a sense of a fairy tale but something to