The Open Group and they cleared these by Oct 2011", he told us. "Once we decided to go ahead, my contributions were contacting all the interested parties again, coordinating our efforts and once the code was available, re-porting CDE to Linux. From my first contact with The Open Group it's taken, 6 years 11 months. But more fairly, about 10 months since we all decided to ahead with this." At the moment, Motif, the widget library that also sprang out of The Open Group, is still only available with a restrictive licence and this new release of CDE builds against the OpenMotif project. This made us wonder about the relationship between OpenCDE, an open source reimplimentation of CDE, and this new release. According to Peter, "There is a large overlap of OpenCDE users and the people that have been helping us with this release. Karsten Pedersen (project lead of OpenCDE) is currently working on the FreeBSD port of CDE, for example. We hope that all OpenCDE users will be happy that CDE is now available and we hope that all aspects of CDE and OpenCDE can be merged together for the benefit of the users." It also seems that a release of the Motif source code may be on the cards in the near future. At the moment CDE looks quaint, to put it nicely, but it is a functional DE. Consider that we may have reached a turning point in Linux desktop environments as the "big two" have never