why I'm here (a bit fidgety and looking away from you). I had the idea of signing up a long time ago ... but ... ah ... I don't know.... At least I didn't know.... There's so much to do.... Everything seems to be coming at me... (pause). Prayer Guide: Everything seemed to be tugging at you ... clamouring for your involvement? Directee: Uha.... Yes, every time I seemed to turn around in the past few months, people were asking me to do something.... I didn't know whether I could do it. Prayer Guide: You put off your commitment to come for a long time because you experienced so many confusing demands.... You seemed to have a sense of fear that perhaps you would be taking on too much? Then begin to investigate how your directee uses scripture in prayer -- whether he has had much experience in praying with scripture, and what that experience has been: "Have you had much experience in praying with scripture? ... What have you found helpful? ... What struggles or difficulties did you have in praying with scripture?" Simply listen with those listening skills that you have developed; don't teach at this point. Rather, as you listen, highlight the positive aspects in what you notice. Do not comment or try to change the negative aspects. Sometimes at this initial stage, it may be helpful to share some of your own struggles with scriptural prayer but only if this helps to achieve rapport. Your interviews