more than one spin on the patriarchy, of course. But the word is privileged in a particular way in feminist ideology. Within that, even, there are differences of opinion. But, it's rather like comparing colours. All feminists agree the patriarchy is purple. Some think it's lilac and some thing it's indigo, but no-one thinks it is green. Portofino Mon 01-Oct-12 13:42:05 Honestly Eats, I really do not know why you persist in starting all these ridiculous threads. Is it because you are trying to derail FWR? Studiously doesn't comment. I am pretty sure that your motive is not to strengthen Feminism - as you are starting to appear a bit silly now. If I was going to try and be disruptive, I'd work hard at trying to put people off and drive them away. Some of the more interesting - albeit acerbic - posters have already gone. Posters of EBAL 's ilk ,will put off more potential converts to feminist ways of thinking. Sorry LRD my bad - I don't usually forget to put quotes in - but I did this time. I was specifically thinking of some of the horrendous female oppression in Central/Southern Africa - and the neo-tribal oppression of women specifically under a Wahabi interpretation of Islam, or the even more radical Shariah practiced by the Taliban. These are specifically not white, upper class, Western men . [I think we agree with the general thrust that we all are part of the patriarchy, even if we disagree