they leaked correspondence and broke off the negotiations through the media. So -- and we said at that time -- we wrote back and said, 'We are happy to negotiate further', and we have been and we remain so, and hence all the concessions the government has made to this point. But you are asking me, Fran, to put forward a policy which I regard as second best, I regard as something which would not have the impact that we need to save lives, and what I'm doing is prosecuting the case to you that the policy that we've got before the Parliament is the best one and the Bill we have before the Senate today is the only one that can pass. Kelly: The Greens have said they won't support offshore processing and the Opposition says they won't support Malaysia. Tony Abbott also talked about increasing the intake, the refugee intake, to 20 000. He also talked about another element of compromise, setting up the Multi-Party Committee on this. Would you consider putting a proposal that has Nauru and Malaysia and bringing in temporary protection visas -- not just an inquiry about them -- and increasing the refugee intake and setting up formally the Multi-Party Committee on this issue? Bowen: Well, let me say a couple of things about that, Fran. Firstly, in relation to the refugee intake, I first proposed the increase in the refugee intake. I made it Labor Party policy at the National Conference when I