Thinking on getting suspenders. I carry couple guns, knives, sap, extra ammo. Some thicker sturdier ones, mostly just to stabilize my pants, not so much to bear the load, but just to make it so I don't have to tighten my belt too tight if I need to work or walk a ways. I tried a set of 4 point X back work suspenders onece but the back points interfered w/ my gun butt (carried at 3:30). So, I'll either get Y back 3 point or 2 point trucker style suspenders(which attach at 3 & 9 o'clock). Google has told me that most gun carriers like using Perry brand Y back industrial work suspenders in combination w/ a heavy gun belt. THe Perry type have J hooks that hook under the belt. The original industrial model are 2" straps w/ elastic only in the back, below the patch, the fronts are non-elastic. They also have a type called ruf-n-tuff. I am not sure if the RnT have elastic fronts or just the back, but the elastic is double strong from usual. Other options are one w/ C clip type thign that can grab around pants belt loops or the "Hold UP" brand that have an alligator clip w/ a central pin that impales your waste band. Other dress style suspenders are too thin, or you might need to sew buttons IWB for the old timey button style syspender.s I suppose I could use the 2 point, I don't think that