be like 'we need a verse and a chorus, we'll put that together'. You know often I'll just have a riff and some chords, and then you can start thinking I can fit that with that, and I think with this new record we've got more chance to actually play together and discuss ideas more as a group. So it could be a case of having a nice loop or melody and putting stuff around that, it works in a lot of different ways and the challenge to it always is, 'okay so we haven't got a vocal, so how can we supplement that?' so its always keeping the ideas moving on and looking at where we can add melodies into it. Musically, whether it could be on electronic instruments or whether it be in the chord progression, so you have to think about it a bit more but that's what we like about it. I'm guessing it's going to be quite an electric mix, so I was wondering what the bands main musical influences were? Yeah electric is definitely the right term, I know it sounds funny but I think recently we've been listening to music we've started listening to music that doesn't necessarily sound like our band. I think we've all got roots in quite heavy and aggressive music whereas over the last few years we've all started listening to much more electronic stuff and anything that's a bit more interesting. We listen to quite a lot of