losers are our equivalents, then we are all losers. And then you run into the trouble that the USSR did where the losers take over and cause a lot of bloodshed. I'm a Patriot (I love my country; the land and its history), a believer in stong borders, a localist, and a Traditionalist, but not a Nationalist pre se as I understand Nationalism to be too much involved with the impersonal State and too little with personal civil society. No it's not, it's the way our governments implement it to divide and conquer and unfortunately, they are winning The version of it we have most certainly is. You cannot have a unified people if we don't even speak the same language and have similar customs. In America, it's a mess. We're just a bunch of strangers with not much in common, culturally, living in the same area. It doesn't help that those groups segregate themselves from everyone else. A lot of these people aren't interested in really being Americans, it seems. In some parts of the city, you wouldn't be mistaken if you feel as if you're on another continent. It's the same here in the UK to a certain extent, although i must say, most of us get along great, our governments create divide by creating laws to allow immigrants state help then our governments bring out other laws to say that us, the indiginous people are to get less help than the immigrants, but we must all remember