by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes Bye for now.. JP REPLY: John, while I'm not going to get into it here, since it is way OT, I think you'll find that survey seriously flawed. Yet the same people who denounce the Oregon petition don't say a peep about it. I'll have a thread on it in the future, so hold commentary for now. -- Anthony I'd like to add another perspective to this enlightening discussion. Let us assume, as has been hypothesized, that there is an intended correlation between the timing of this news release, with its revisionist news about Antarctic temperatures, and upcoming Public testimony by Gore et al. We can easily grasp that the paradox of "Global" warming with Antarctic cooling presents a PR problem for AGW. But there is an additional factor that I believe may be influencing the "science" here. Consider that Svensmark's theorem elegantly explains the above paradox. According to Svensmark, an increase in solar magnetosphere activity will produce the paradox. Over most of the globe, an increase in solar magnetic activity will produce warming by decreasing cloud cover. Over Antartica, however, the same decrease in cloud cover will produce a decrease in temperature. This is because clouds have a higher albedo than ocean and most continental masses, but a lower albedo than the highly reflective Antartic surface. At the risk of appearing deeply cynical, I would submit that one reason this