10, Vettel got support from his team insisting he was correct when he wasn't, but worse about Malaysia is that the FIA backed it up. At least when Hamilton messes up he admits it, which is something I really respect about him but it's the one stand out thing that has made me not support Vettel throughout the last few years. It's always the other persons fault. I hope he changes that as otherwise he's a thoroughly pleasant chap. I didn't bring this into the conversation. Who I am a fan of is irrelevant and I say that again. This comparison was not between Seb and Lewis and I made no connection whatsoever. We were discussing Seb's drive what I said was good, but not his finest/greatest. We all know how good Vettel is and we've seen him drive better. He is a great drivers, one of the best. I don't think that is a display of me being anti Seb and the fact it has been twisted that way says more about those making the accusation than myself. Of course Bagwan I'm not accusing you of anything. I know where you stand and where you are likely to throw your support. We don't often agree and this is yet another one of those times. Ah , Henners , I've always been a devil's advocate . I'll always wander in and help someone who is being jumped on , if there's a shred of evidence that they've got a point