would interfere w/ my kit, but it seems like the Y back would do a better job of pulling up the rear of the waste band when leaning over. On the other hand, the front straps of the Y style might interfere w/ access of gun I carry cross draw at 10 or 11 o'clock and a knife I carry at 3 o'clock... I have both the industrial and the ruff n tuf, or whatever they're called. The industrial is all webbing except for the length of elastic from the back patch to the belt. The webbing is stiff and wide but not too thick. There will be slack in the webbing when they're not under tension, and they won't give much (ie: prepare for an occasional wedgie if you've got 'em adjusted real snug). They have lower-profile (flatter/thinner) metal adjusting sliders in the front which hide well under just about any shirt. I find these work well in that you can set them up so they they act as suspenders when needed but have enough slack so they don't feel like you're wearing suspenders full time... in other words, they're not yankin your pants up full time. Rather, they're simply there as support for when your pants/belt drop to a certain point. The ruff n tuf model is all heavy duty elastic and does better at giving constant support, if that's what you want. They're heavy duty - not your run of the mill suspenders. My only criticism is