North Manchester and am surrounded by large churches with equally large presbyteries, some unused and others underused. I certainly do not suggest they are sold, but I do suggest they are put to some social use. I realise it does not lend itself to a simple solution, but that should not deter an attempt. The diocese continues to find funds for 're-ordering' which, over the last fifty years, could have been utilised to alleviate social problems within the congregations. If they had, perhaps the collapse in congregation levels would have been avoided? who could imagine a Catholic Cardinal belly laughing with a pro-abortion (BO has a long rep' for this: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=48685), and - put all the pros anti-s yourself least this goes on too long - "love bombing" president - what a photo-op (whatever's op)...scandal...it was an image that confused and conflated everything that the Cardinal represents and all the twisted turnings of, what some see as a Soros-stooge. When Christ said, "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"; it seems for the most part American Shepherds did well in reminding the flock of 'the things that are God's'. The people of America voted for a safe pair of hands,they could see the danger in a Republican foreign policy that could bring about Armageddon. If as has been said by dissidents that the majority were Catholic Hispanic immigrants it must show that they see through the fog and misinformation being given