yet to copy it the way they copied the deltabox. I'm not sold on it being "better" than aluminum in motorcycles just yet. Well it was actually in downhill mountain bike that I was looking at buying CF. Its made to take big hits, and yes that includes scratches. They have to be reliable and durable, and it is a potential legal minefield because a frame failure in downhill equates to a broken neck, so no cycle manufacturer can afford to go through that. A carbon cycle frame was once $20k or more, now its down to $3k and used by many companies much smaller than Ducati. Therefore the future as I see it would be a CF Ducati 1198 that weighs in a good 10kg less, say in the 165kg range. If they cant achieve that no use in using carbon. My understanding is that Rossi brought a lot of the money with him in the form of various endorsements and sponsorships. My fear would be the lack of results isn't giving the sponsors a lot to crow about and I would question their continued patronage and support in the next (and following) seasons. Everyone seems to think that Rossi brings bags of money with him, but he's not a 16 year-old kid. If Rossi, Burgess, and Brivio came with a $10M surplus of sponsorship, the manufacturers would quickly bid the surplus away. Best case scenario, Rossi's sponsors pay his wages and his crew's wages. If Rossi is indeed