how that might be done -- maybe, as suggested in a video on Ophelia's blog, some women need to be wired for audio and video and act as "bait cars" .... Difficult problem but one not likely to be solved by relying on dogma or by riding off in all directions .... I still don't get why you believe any young girl who has knowledge of sex is somehow fair game for harassment, or how it is inconsistent to have knowledge of sex and still be a child. I think we need to at least put that on the back burner for a bit as we seem to be going in circles, in part because I think you're ignoring what I've said. But your statement there highlights, I think, part of the problem. More specifically, one might reasonably ask what evidence you have as to what constitutes harassment and how many statements or comments of what type are necessary before the conversation qualifies as that -- pretty subjective otherwise. In addition one might argue that the degree of sexual knowledge one has is a primary determinant in deciding one's level of maturity. And unless you want to argue that her relationship with her boyfriend is entirely platonic -- a stretch given the number of teenage pregnancies -- I would say she is likely to be quite a bit more than just a child. For either of you to claim otherwise seems rather disingenuous at best ... As far as your