as a whole, I imagine we wouldn't just let that pass unnoticed. So I'd just like to know if there's any good reason why I shouldn't do this, even if I can't necessarily be privy to the details of it. Translation: is it safe to do a knife job on this guy? and "But his statement was so broad, so casually dismissive of some of the smartest people in this movement (me among them, I'd like to think), that he can't really be surprised that one of them took offense at it and criticized him for it, can he?" What sort of person actually writes shit like that? (well Ed Brayton as it turns out). I'm guessing you can see at this point why they are so terrified of this stuff becoming public. Personal details my ass! Well FTB found out that I had given Michael Payton access to this information, I then became the subject of the secret societies wrath. This is just one example of MANY. This is Ed Brayton (the head/ owner or similar of FTB) talking about what he wants done to me. "I want to do whatever it takes to make sure that he (thunderf00t) is essentially drummed out of this movement, never invited to speak anywhere again and is forever a pariah." That's right, all I did was clued someone in whose job was being threatened as to FTBs little conspiring (some THIRTY emails over his single tweet!) against him and for this heinous