weight then him i thought olives where ment to be fast growers..he also had a clean shed 4weeks after i got him thanks =) carnt get pics cauze cam is broken oh and tank is a 4x2x2 33 hot end 29cool multiple hides ect he was on critters crumble bedding but just switched to newspaper other day to wash it out [QUOTE=someday;2254660]ive tried to include everything i can. my olive is probably 10 months old now got him when he was 6 months old. first week i had him he took his feed after couple hours of it sitting in front of his hide then couple days later i put in 2 more he took them then a week later i offered a rat didn't take it but he ran up to the quail hanging from the tongs and lunged onto that after about 20mins of trying to get it down he gave up and never jumped at anything again he was a bit cage defensive for them 2 weeks aswell but since that last quail everything stopped i been offering him quail and a rat or a mouse weekly. ive tried senting them and braining them but all that does is stir up my bhp in the tank below. i tryed assisting him after 2 months with outfood all he does is adventuly drop it becausae he dosnt grip onto the food so i choped off the head and put that in his mouth he ate that then bout