so right. However, I think that many Labor people were pissed off that their leader spent more time trying to turn himself into the next "Pop Idol Politician" than running the country. It really was embarrassing?? Tanner really needs to learn that one person is never bigger than an idea. The truly original Lucy: 26 Sep 2012 3:07:13pm Jonathan, Lindsay Tanner did wait until Julia was far less vulnerable than any other time over the last year and a bit before publishing his account (e.g. once the polls had turned for several sequential weeks in her favour). Had he done it say three months ago I think your criticism would have held more weight. I think everyone should have time for Lindsay Tanner's comments. The truly original Lucy: umma: 26 Sep 2012 3:09:47pm The ALP is currently tainted by a great wrong done to a leader who galvanized an opposition that could not find the formula to win until he arrived in the top job. The ALP remains the "Light on the hill" to many of us but everytime I see Gillard, Shorten, Roxon and Crean I get a deep sick feeling in my guts and no amount of discussion and rationalization can remove it - what happened to Kevin was not only a base moral corruption and a betrayal of ALP principles, it was a selfish and ruthless Machiavellian grab for power. Julia and her ruthless band of cohorts lived by the sword - and so they shall die