YMMV situation AT BEST -- it seems just grotesque to keep insisting that it's no big thing when there are post after post saying how individuals felt humiliated and invaded). Granted, the topic is emotional, but it's also a topic where many folks aren't well informed, and folks should take a step back and at least learn some of the background. Thank you for the insightful, rationalized, and detailed commentary. You are a brave and intelligent soul, Dr. Anonymous, and on behalf of women and a relative to many health care providers (none of whom are in the US, but are watching the developments from north of the border with baited breath and no little horror), I am grateful you spoke up. I don't want to see an entire profession blacklisted and tarred by the political decisions of a small faction with a distinct agenda. You remind me yet again that the constant vigilance and care practiced by so many nurses, doctors, primary care physicians, surgeons, and so forth is integral to the health system operating correctly. We don't always realize the choices which our health care providers make to give us choice, keep us healthy and safe, and in line with the Hippocratic oath and other codes of conduct. As a woman, I believe no legislation has the right to shove an unwanted device in my body to conduct an ultrasound I neither consented to or asked for. When I cannot or will not consent, it is rape. Full