the ultimate Judge and these Doctors and those who advocate this Holocaust will be the ones who are Judged Morally Unacceptable and those persons will end up in the fiery Gates of Hell! Noah I would have no qualms about walking into one of these after-birth abortion clinics and shooting every doctor and nurse to death in defense of the most innocent life of an infant.. Would you call that an "after-birth abortion" too?  Would it be immoral or unjust?  Is the doctor and nurse more innocent than the infant that they want to murder or have murdered? St. Eusebius quoting the paper (page 3): "The reason is that, by virtue of our definition of the concept of 'harm' in the previous section, in order for a harm to occur, it is necessary that someone is in the condition of experiencing that harm." So if a rapist applies some knock-out-pills to his neighbour and carries out his ... business, no harm is occuring to her, because, being unconcious, she is not in the condition to experience that harm? Would the authors then enlighten us why this is against the law? Evil_roy "What the response to this article reveals, through the microscope of the web, is the deep disorder of the modern world. Not that people would give arguments in favour of infanticide, but the deep opposition that exists now to liberal values and fanatical opposition to any kind of reasoned engagement." For years I have harbored a half-formed, sneaking suspicion