you can only vote if you hold a 2012 year membership? (which in fact expires in a fortnight or so). So Any one who joins from mid Dec onwards will hold a 2013 membership and be shit out of luck? The membership must be in there for the long haul to ensure there will no screwing of the scrum, to hold the parliamentary wing to increased accountability to be more representative of the membership, affiliates and grassroots, as well as to advocate and argue for greater democratisation. "You will have to have belonged to the party for the calendar year 2012? I'd like some clarification around this. Joining now means I have joined in this calender year but thats not the same as belonging to the party FOR the calender year. I can see a lot of dissapointed new members come Feb 2013 if whoever gets to decide eligibility ( ABCers?) decides to be pedantic around that wording. You mean the fool who left Wishart running a recorder in front of him while he attacked damn near everything in the party, got caught up in some questions about dodgy accounting at his previous employer, left the party with a pile of spurious accusations, has consistently bad mouthed it ever since, and who has been running a stunt to improve his ratings for his radio show by trying to gatecrash a invitation only conference. I suspect he has a problem with the clause that says that members aren't to bring the