by the ABCs' in Caucus! So what! I don't want someone they "like" to be leader -- I want someone who can WIN THE ELECTION! I want someone who can burn Jonkey to a crisp! And that someone is definitely NOT Grant Robertson. He has the wrong look(which is shallow but necessary on tv), won't appeal to the South Auckland voter, and has as much political grunt as a Furbie. Can't see him being able to produce great new ideas on the economy or anything else. Being "liked" doesn't win elections! Being confident, being able to compose great economic policies , being a great salesman, being self-assured on television does! Simple! Doesn't matter. With MMP lots of people (self included) vote tactically -- eg giving their electorate vote to Robertson and their party vote to the Greens. That's good, and is how it is supposed to work. It's also a distinct message to Labour. If you want to look at Roberton's performance reflected in the vote, look at the electorate vote. Can anyone tell me after that absolute failure of political maneuvering, ability to handle the media, and ability to control the message amongst a handful of MPs and the New Lynn LEC any non-members should seriously consider joining to vote David Cunliffe into the leadership? Sure we don't want more of this Mallard/Pagani crap that gets haegeographies from Fran O'Sullivan, DPF, Matt Hooton, John Armstrong and co, but how has Cunliffe proved himself capable of being leader over the