afford it, they usually do it. Never forget that those of us who choose frugality for the sake of the environment are not the norm! I don't believe in being absolutist about anything.  The problem with flying is how much of it goes on  and that it's been growing, putting pressure on the climate and airport capacity.  So I try to fly as little as possible.  I've been by train to Poland, Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Belgium and Italy in the last year (a mix of work and pleasure), it's possible and in many ways more enjoyable than flying, though unfortunately more expensive.  However i flew to Budapest for a conference that I thought was worth attending but there just wasn't time to get their any other way (I was busy fighting an incinerator public inquiry at the time). I've always wanted to go to Crete and when I get the time and money I will probably fly there but I will stay as long as I can once I'm there because I won't be returning for a long time if ever.  If my family lived outside of eurpoe i would fly to see them (occassionally). The problem it seems to me is that some people just fly routinely, without even thinking of alternatives, or for ridculously short breaks that could have been taken in the UK.  we need first to get people to think of alternatives and to cut back on the amount they fly.  Eventually not flying will become