the most depth. Boy can't you tell we are in that pre update slump LOL I hope Tims hint that the next one is not that far away is accurate. I think there will be an acceleration of those things we know are coming over the next couple of months, I feel it in my bones. Well obviously the guys at AC have tried the competitions physics and tyres ....... surely. I would think if they thought they had a rF2 beater we would have heard more about it. Not saying it won't be, okay. I've known the guys from AC about as long as I've known Gjon. I just don't think that's who they are. But then again, you also won't see me talking about other products being better or worse, either. I just want to see the genre supported... I buy games from the genres I like quite often, even if I know it's not going to be exactly what I want. Sort of a "Good try, TRY AGAIN " thing. Without purchases, who knows if some of those small companies without all the supportive revenue streams ISI has even could try again? Racing sims have been plentiful, bit before rF2, what were you running? What were your real choices except iRacing, RBR, NKP, LFS, Codemasters and something based on an ISI engine (whether rF1 or something else). That's pathetic, frankly. This genre needs more players involved, it's good for the genre as every one brings some kind