most awesome dude on earth. He is as experienced as you said, and the most unassuming, hardworking, lovable dude you'll ever meet. We immediately clicked with him when we talked on the phone while choosing a producer. Conference calls can be kind of tough for getting a feel for someone. We hopped on the phone with John and he had more energy than anyone I know for making rock records. He had been sent the demos and you could just sense the enthusiasm he had for these songs. For us, this music is our lives you know? This is what we do full time. It's very valuable to find someone who wants to get their hands dirty with these songs of ours, take it as seriously, and have as much fun with it as we want to. Honestly, you could argue that the songs most producers are working on are not their livelihood. They might take pride in it but it's not their band, and they will probably be doing some other record the next month. I don't mean to sound sceptical of producers at all, but with John it was exciting and comforting to know he was as invested as we were. The good guys aren't rare, we have been very lucky to work with people like John, Rob Schnapf , Ben Allen , Vance Powell ; these guys are some of the best for a reason. I can't speak for the other guys [in the band] but we