way. I would very much like to see them get back on track, but they have to do something drastic or radical, such as OSSing what they have, or something even more serious. My feeling however is that ROL is too much conservatively committee driven, and doesn't know what to do. I certainly don't want to write ROL off completely, and they have done some fantastic stuff for RISC OS, but it's unclear how they can positively proceed from this point. Castle at least (for all their own mistakes) has at least decoupled themselves from RO (via ROOL) in a manner that's at least somewhat effective to users. (I still haven't see the videos, and could only go on stuff I knew). ROL has lost their way. I would very much like to see them get back on track, but they have to do something drastic or radical, such as OSSing what they have, or something even more serious. My feeling however is that ROL is too much conservatively committee driven, and doesn't know what to do. I certainly don't want to write ROL off completely, and they have done some fantastic stuff for RISC OS, but it's unclear how they can positively proceed from this point. Castle at least (for all their own mistakes) has at least decoupled themselves from RO (via ROOL) in a manner that's at least somewhat effective to users. I think people are much too polite about RISCOS Ltd! For years now they've abused RISC