responsibility as the fourth estate to be factual and unbiased. The commercialisation of News overrides this and skews this to responsibility to shareholders, not the public. The obsessive attacks on the ABC over the quantum of its reportage has led it to seek left and right (read biased) stories in search of overall balance. shane: That one needs to go, though I don't bother much with it any more. He is not funny, clever or even witty. Chris Uhlman on the other hand has everything. By and large though, I think the ABC does a pretty good job and is my preferred news outlet by a long shot. I do see the odd rhetoric headline creeping in, which I wish they'd dispense with. Instead of headlines saying things like 'Abbott at it again' or Gillard deemed a loser' sort of thing....just keep the headlines factual. They're just examples by the way...but some headlines have come close to rhetoric like that and it puts me right off. Daniel: You make it seem as though Tony Jones threw the shoes himself. I partially agree that the ABC has a leftist leaning however, it by no means is purely leftist propaganda as you suggest. The quality of the ABC has to be taken into account in the context of the media industry as a whole and when this is done it is apparent that it is leaps and bounds above the rest, in Australia and abroad. JM: You are more than welcome to