it (for whatever reason), and you can see her as clearly as he obviously could see this girl... If I had to guess, I'd say he saw a drunk, provocatively dressed girl, thought of her as a piece of dirt like some of you do, saw she was leaning against the train, and thought, well I have a bit of power here, I'll teach her a lesson and knock her on her arse. Either that or an "I don't give a **** what happens, it's her problem" sort of attitude. Either way it was an abuse of power, and this ruling from the courts seems to suggest that is what they believe happened too. I agree with alomst everything you say and glad you dont demand him coming back at a certain time. The only thing i dont agree with is the part i highlighed... teenages can get very drunk, expecailly girls on very little, couple of drinks even. The parents can not controll that in anyway when they are having fun at a party.. teenages will learn themselfs what is their limit. Yes, I know they do, but I think it would take more than a couple of drinks, even for a girl to get drunk. We've all been there, head spinning, feeling sick - trouble is, these days, youngsters think a night out isn't done justice unless they are so drunk they end up lying in the gutter. It's the extremes of drunkenness that worry me. It's far