you are doing them a favour by staying with them!  Big egos. I agree with suzzy tho, i dont believe that we are ever really truely meant to be with one person for the rest of our lives but its how we deal with ending one and starting another.  I am separated from my husband and I have to wait 2 years before i can divorce him, the same should be for marriage, you dont have to wait 2 years for that, you can meet someone and marry them that same day if that suits.  If we had to wait to get married i dont think half of marriages would actually take place. Sorry just really angry that you are using this site to justify or wallow in your own pile of poo, that you created.  I have no sympathy for you at all. I just hope that you lot can finally do the right thing and admin gets round to deleting this sad thread. Er, to LLoo above, I think that you are way out of order here.  Firstly, the number of posts and the fact that we come back to it shows it is WORKING as a site.  And, we really do move on from where we were and get comfort from sharing. Secondly, your black and white world is how we would like it to be!  But, for whatever reasons it just is not.  IF we could do that - 'move on...walk away...' we would have done