saved through grace. McMark: And if Romans 5 were indeed talking about the righteousness of God being what God does in you, why would there even be an objection in Romans 6 about "more sin to get more grace"? RS: It is telling people that they are to live righteously as a result of being declared righteous rather than sinning more that grace may increase. Living by grace is the way the glory and righteousness of God is displayed through those whom He has declared just rather than sinning so that grace may be glorified. In fact, God justifies sinners by grace and then it is by grace that they live to the glory of His name. No one ever earns one iota of grace because that is utterly impossible. But justified souls are those that live by grace so that all they do manfiests His glory rather than their own (which they don't have anyway). Justified souls live in utter dependence on God and can do nothing good or righteous apart from Him. So all the glory is of His and justified souls live by grace to His glory. II Cor 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we would become the righteousness of God. RS: In the text above sinners become the righteousness of God in Him. mark: I had already agreed that "righteousness" in many texts does not always mean Christ earned and imputed. I had