wasted in England shirts. The latest is Gerrard and Rooney. Rooney in major tournaments is simply woeful, Gerrard is the only player in the last two major tournaments to have come away with some respect. Much like his club side, sadly, Gerrard has at times been surrounded by a very average bunch and its the same in an England shirt Historically England have wasted so much talent over the years its phenomenal and it always tends to be the technically better players who suffer. Substance over style but ironically there is always very little substance Some fair points raised there, not that I necessarily agree with all of it. I'd take issue with the line - It leads to great dramatic moments, it may even win occasional silverware, but it is no way to achieve sustained excellence. That seems very dismissive, as Gerrard did produce a sustained period of excellence, 2005-2009. He was much more than those late winning goals. One moment that comes to mind is an instantly forgettable match in the 04/05 season against Southampton at Anfield. With 10 minutes to go, Liverpool were in possession at the edge of the Southampton area, and Gerrard was forward in an attacking position. Liverpool lost the ball and Southampton broke. Players who were in and around the Southampton area like Riise and Garcia laboured back, while Gerrard who was probably the furthest forward began to tear back after the ball. He eventually caught Svensson inside the Liverpool half, no other