to kent district court and you can see judges letting 20 or 30 driving without insurance defer their hearing for the 2d 3d or 4th thirty day period, letting them try to find a job to buy insurance....of course we all know they're driving to the courthouse where they say they have no insurance ...with no insurance! Seriously, focus on the actual enforcement, the courts, the fines, what happens when you're guilty. Adding more penalties sometimes means adding more laws that are not enforced. And harsher penalties? the courts just mitigate ever so more. The $500 for DWOI doesn't work because they defer it all, they never even impose the $500 penalty cuz after the dude gets a job and gets insurance they knock it down to something else then take a $150 admin fee (that goes right to the county, you see) and the guy who's guilty never even pays the $500 penalty we already have. Adding more penalties ignores the other 90% of the pipeline where all the leakages are ocurring...... Posted by it's a pipeline..with leaks... about 2 years Ago "People pay to park in Seattle because they have to pay...not because they want to pay." And I pay for toilet paper because I have to, not because I want to. John, I completely agree that that you were not born a dick, but were made. You, at least in 2002, were someone who could write, think, program. "The Downtown Syndicate has front loaded things by concentrating