non-believers. Concentration camp survivors passionate and vivid experiences, and personal motivation and inspiration isn't considered for one moment to detract from the history and humanism taught. In fact it gives the history a veracity that only first-person testimony can provide. You were the subject of anti-bigotry. And clearly your 'education' was all the worse for it. Murray Alfredson : 02 Mar 2012 6:10:28pm Catherine Byrne makes some very important points of principle here. 1. Religious and ethics education is too important to leave to amateurs, gifted or otherwise. 2. In our Australian society, we do have (and have had as long as I can remember) major problems of religious intolerance. When I was young it was Protestants versus Catholics, and both versus Jews. Nowadays it is the Muslims who cop it in the neck, though as 'godless' Buddhist I have myself borne the brunt at times. The way through this mess is, as Catherine has said, to understand each others' paths. 3. This a huge problem in Australia, one to which governments have paid lip service but no more. Like many civil and social problems it will take commitment in a big way, including money. This is difficult in the current ethos, despite the fact the country is richer than ever before. LIke health and social disadvantage, it does require greater public commitment. 4. I see such commitment as first to teach the teachers. This implies having strong religious and ethical studies in our undergraduate programs. My own State, South