very different if we have a car or not. Now we can exchange ideas about cars, decide which one is best for out situation etc. When we talk about cars, we are no talking about 'nothing.' This almost seems more a play of words than a useful exchange. A three your old can talk to you about a car.. are you going to tell that kid 'cars do not exist?' :) "On my thoughts of how both creation and evolution. "created this universe"" Sounds great to me. I do believe that science and religion should very much go together. But that each should know their limits. Just because science cannot 'proof' anything spiritual, that does not mean a spiritual world does not exist. And a spiritual interpretation of the Bible leaves more room for science to say how old humanity is. My view on evolution is that it is not growth and development of one species. I think it is meant as a method that a crawling animal becomes a fish. But then, I see evolution is a process, not a 'creation' of life.