the signs and I've been thinking about those angry reactions youve been getting Ishtar - it could well be such a 'sorcerous' intent that is becoming manifest in and contributing to the expression of anger you've been experiencing, a backlash to the usery, a reaction that is a low-consciousness knee-jerk that resembles the reflex of a soul thats just been shafted, but, hasn't quite got whats happening - this too would be feeding that intent - low magic, as you say, operates by way of keeping itself within its own circle, so to speak, in order to maintain itself and it has to steal or buy-in life force to thrive or grow - its a succubus that makes everyone its potential food, providing youre in a torpor or out of your box in some other way - in this sense, if it is indeed scorcery, the subliminal or occulted level of this debacle is essential not only to its survival but to its efficacy so discussing this with any of the architects of these ceremonies will more than likely be a waste of time, unless of course your already in the circle of intent.....or a party to those who are, mmm? Oh the fun and games.....so yes, I think your right, but that paradoxically (sorry Wizard) all this will only stand a chance of putting people off the good and rightful use of high magic if they remain asleep within someone elses dream.......are those Caliban's words I hear echoing across