learn to live that way of life, they can go to other places around Australia, outback, up north, or go overseas and be involved in doing a similar kind of work with the poorest of the poor in the slums of Asia. Rachael Kohn: Ange, you actually grew up here in West End, didn't you? Ange Andrews: I did and I really, really love it as well. Rachael Kohn: Is the kind of work you do here in West End, the place you grew up in, at odds with the way you grew up? I mean is it a challenge for you to be doing this kind of work with the homeless in the very neighbourhood that you grew up in? Ange Andrews: In some ways yes, and in some ways no, because my Mum and Dad actually set a tradition in their Greek community; they tried to live out a different way of living in the family and in their community. And my father did a lot of work with the homeless, and welcoming them into his caf in the city that he had, and they always got first priority every morning, having breakfast first, before anybody else. He'd go and collect them all, and that's only one of the things that my Dad did, and my family have a strong tradition of that. Rachael Kohn: Well you both spent some time in Asia, quite a bit of time in India. That was in the '70s. Was it part