handle that kid is beat his ass and make sure they are in church every time the door is open for about 6 months. Its people like you that create these people. laura m. steve: child protective svcs would be on your doorstep, for beating even spanking..raising kids is useless today, as parents won't control them. One gal told me "you can't force teens to go to church" churches are full of hypocrites anyway: adulterers, whores, drunks, etc. (stick to home churches). Steve it's not theft I'm speaking about, but gang type mobs..kids in gangs need to be in juvi jail. You sound like a freakin loser like most today. Yes, I know of older adults who have written off their adult loser/slacker kids for various reasons. Loser parents have bum offspring still living at home in their 30?s, incl friends who are losers in parenting. Guido That seems a tad overkill. What ever happened to punishing your kid and shaming him into better behavior? As a child, I stole a toy from a store. My mother saw me with the new toy minutes later as we walked around the mall. In addition to correcting me on the spot, she walked me back to the store to return the item and forced me to make an apology to the store owner. Thankfully, in those days store owners weren't apt to call the cops to have children arrested, or worse, so my humiliation and shame was sufficient punishment-in addition to what