Spirit refer to God Himself, in specific modes of activity." UPC John 1:1, 14 is a good summary of the teaching on the pre-existence of Jesus: In other words, Jesus existed from all eternity as God. The plan of the future Sonship existed with God from the beginning - as an idea in the mind of God. Ultimately, this Word became flesh - as the extension of God the Father in human form." John 1:1 The Word is the thought, plan, or expression in the mind of God. "We should also note that I John 1:2 does not indicate that the Son was with God in eternity. Rather, it states that eternal life was with the Father." UPC Modalists view Jesus as the SON in an identical way they view Jesus as the LOGOS/WORD in Jn 1:1. No pre-existence, just a thought in the mind of God! They take the identical position that Christadelphians take on the Logos passages and it is heresy! The Holy Spirit "The Holy Spirit is not a separate being any more than the Logos. The term Holy Spirit describes what God is, and refers to God's power and action in the world ." UPC "So, both the terms Logos and Holy Spirit refer to God Himself, in specific modes of activity." UPC "It is clear from the context that the Holy Ghost is simply Jesus in another form or manifestation. In other words, "another Comforter" means Jesus in the Spirit as opposed to Jesus in