will still be the responsible party because they incited it to happen. And as far as China...they're not really stabbing us in the back. Everyone should have known that China is not our ally, and therefore they have no obligation to us. They have just been using us to achieve their own objectives, which is exactly what would be expected. Cinderella Man BTW, how pathetic is it that the only reason the market gained yesterday is beacause Bernanke just "hinted" at QE3? It just shows you that this economy is like a coke addict in need of constant stimulus! Noel Hasn't the country been in a "shallow recession" for a while now? Good article, but I clicked the link to the NY Times story about the kids on the train, and it's from June 1997. Stuey The NYT article is dated 6/23/1997. Stuey Although, from page 2 of the article, it sounds like it was a hate crime. I guess it never made the national news like the Zimmerman situation. Singerdude The game's up! The Fed's know quite well what is happening and have known and planned this economic collapse for quite some time. In order for their planned NWO to come into existence, our once great nation must be destroyed politically, socially and economically. Once this is done, the next phase of their plan is to create 10 Supra-Nation states around the globe, with one monetary, political and yes, religous center based out of Europe (in particular, I believe