currently the case. Well, Bubblecar, I invite you to close the stable door. The horse has bolted, mind you. The question is how do we get ourselves out from where we are, and the solution suggested here is through encouraging new Muslim movements that can be coopted within a democratic system, whilst allowing their intolerance a bit of leeway so that it can morph into tolerance, rather than be driven to violent extremism. Do you have a better solution than that? If these Muslims self-identify as Salafists, a movement with a long history within Islam, it's not clear why Marat Shterin is so anxious to hang his 'New Muslim' label on them. From the perspective of Salafis the history of the Salafi dawah starts with Muhammad himself. They consider themselves direct followers of his teachings as outlined in the Qur'an and Sunnah (prophetic traditions), and wish to emulate the piety of the first three generations of Islam (the Salaf). All later scholars are merely reviver's (not 'founders') of the original practices. Modern scholars may only come to teach (or remind) Muslims of the instructions of the original followers of Islam, who based their beliefs and actions on the Qur'an and Sunnah. Liberal democracy should use its rich repertoire of solutions capable of accommodating those who peacefully disagree with its foundations to cope with such young people, and by doing this make itself more appealing to them as they grow and mature. By this you no doubt mean giving money to