another debate? And as usual typical Labor nasty tactics now being used to try & attack him for rejecting it. luke warm : 03 Aug 2010 4:22:46pm "and who would have predicted it would be Tony Abbott who seems to be running the more coherent, disciplined campaign?" Coherent? Disciplined? Not words that come to mind when examining Abbott's policy statements during the campaign and before it. Most of them are out of kilter with reality, his 'beliefs' of 12 months ago, and the Liberal party's stated positions on lower taxes, smaller government and free market economics. He apparently believes he can simultaneously reduce government income, increase expenditure and pay off debt. What you see is what you get with Tony, someone who will say anything to get elected. I'm not saying that Gillard is much better - all in all it's a bit like arguing over which snail is the fastest in the race. caz : 03 Aug 2010 6:40:22pm ..so long as he hangs is there with the script.. noone predicted it because this is indeed phoney tony..let's hear some of his words from the gut/heart like those classic favourites about how climate change is crap and homeless people choose to be homeless and unmarried women should be virgins and.. and etc etc... caz : 03 Aug 2010 7:01:15pm And little enough is being said about how the welfare for the wealthy parental scheme might initially be paid out of a levy to big business but when entrenched will