figures of 28% or better? Well, we can make it look like 9%. Cars are no longer affordable. So we get people to lease them instead of owning them. Keep the cars above a marketable price because to do otherwise puts a lot of people out of work in the car industry. Well that has already happened at GM. I doubt seriously if these people all owned those cars outright. Most had a car payment. Most have rent or a mortgage to pay. Most are simply getting by on what they earn and hope no one realises that they are stone broke. They are not saving money in a bank somewhere. These people are living in the past. But they hope they are not next to lose their jobs. There are so many of them out there on the roads in the morning and coming home at night. The problem is keeping these people occupied so they do not realise that things world wide have really come apart. There are riots all over the world because people can no longer feed themselves and support repressive taxation. Gold and Silver markets? Take a good look at what happened to the Hunt Family and Silver. Gold can happen the same way as Silver did. The markets can be shut down and they were at least once in the case of the Hunts. Gold might be the next federal target. The problem is the middle class is not saving money. That is because