why we would be jeopardising their situation of safety. Then Dave and that girl's father went out to try and stand between the Sikhs that were being harmed by the people that were reacting and trying to kill them, and they were just talking last night about how they thought that that was madness because they were children, and they didn't want to actually have their parents die and I didn't want Dave to go either. Dave Andrews: And I remember that conversation; they were saying to Ange, 'Look, we looked out the window and mobs of people were chasing down Sikhs because a Sikh had killed the Prime Minister, and people were in the backlash, slaughter the Sikhs. But I said, 'If it was your father, or your husband, or your son, wouldn't you want somebody to intervene?' And I can remember at the time Ange said, 'Yes, of course I would.' The framework for a global ethic is recognising we're all part of the same family, and realising that we've got that responsibility. Am I my brother's keeper? Yes, I am, because I'm part of the same family, and that was an impulse to respond, to intervene, and to save some people's lives. And that was I think highly significant. Rachael Kohn: I guess it raises the question of the demands of this kind of life and this kind of work on the family. Where the radical compassion is directed. If it's directed outside of the family, does