So the way we portrayed NZ is consciously contrary to the NZ that is usually shown in films. It's urban, it's un-scenic. It's not dramatic in the classical sense, is more about moments in between action and drama, the moments of hesitation and uncertainty that make up large swathes of our mostly unseen lives. And the kid in the film is the only one who is not going through some kind of coming-of-age. He's the only grown up in a way. So that's kind of a vision of Aoteoroa I guess. If you could make a film about anyone living or dead who would it be? JEREMY: I think some sort of fly-on-the-wall documentary about Thomas Pynchon that didn't actually let on it was him. What was the last great film you saw? ADAM: I saw Rocky on the plane back from Germany. I'd never seen it and was shocked at how good it is. I saw The Turin Horse at the last Berlinale, and re-watched 35 Shots of Rum by Claire Denis, who is my favourite. JEREMY: Great doesn't come around too often. Maybe last year when I saw Once Upon a Time in Anatolia . Florian Habicht told me to get a camera. He couldn't believe I didn't have one. What's the best piece of advice you've ever been given? ADAM: Florian Habicht told me to get a camera. He couldn't believe I didn't have one. I've got one now and it was the best thing I ever