financial doping. ( not my choice of phrase but I suppose it does replace " non-compliance with rules which resulted in financial gain" with just two words ). now you seem to be aligning yourself with others who maintain that celtic did no wrong. that case is over and done with but IMHO you need to understand that it was just as illegal as offences rangers are alleged to have committed. you write that you understand the ebt loan concept. lets hold it right there. nowhere or at any time in this whole rangers saga have I seen or heard of any ebt used by them or celtic or anyone else, to make a LOAN to a player, ex-player or director. all payments have been SUMS OWING TO THEM of one form or another which is illegal. end of story you would think but the mental gymnastics employed by many commentators on here and elsewhere in order to prove otherwise never ceases to amaze me. rgds. I suggest you go and spend some time investigating whether or not it was 'financial doping' -- for your own sanity. Please remember that you are not in a playground. The art of debate does not include antagonistically repeating the same question over and over even when provided with an answer. If the answer is not to your personal satisfaction then go and research and come back to us. However, I do not believe that your intention was to ask a simple question. Especially