those things which the intellect is supposed to grasp to check our disordered will. Those most in a position to exercise power, most privileged, can't resist doctrines that insist a vast expanse of an amoral universe. It is a blank slate ready for the impression of their own image. Instead; "As modern men and women -- to the degree that we are modern -- we believe in nothing. This is not to say, I hasten to add, that we do not believe in anything; I mean, rather, that we hold an unshakable, if often unconscious, faith in the nothing, or in nothingness as such. It is this in which we place our trust, upon which we venture our souls, and onto which we project the values by which we measure the meaningfulness of our lives. Or, to phrase the matter more simply and starkly, our religion is one of very comfortable nihilism." http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/\\... Mark Dew : 05 Mar 2012 7:38:20pm Martin Snigg: "The little nugget of gold in your otherwise stupidly offensive and uncivil remark is the idea of return to the sources of Western Civilisation (Greek and Jewish)" Isn't this calling the kettle black? I'm not recommending a wholesale return to Aristotelianism, a la Alisdair MacIntyre, only the notion of Paediea, al a Takis Fotopulis. As for my "offensive and uncivil" remarks, I speak from sober experience. I have four kids in the public education system and am regularly appraised of the mindless nonsense they're exposed to. I wouldn't