to the surface, and we can talk about them. And we've tried to join with them around those issues of struggles. And so we tried to join in with local Aboriginal people around issues of struggles that they have, around stolen wages, and tried to join with refugees who arrive here and who are often not welcomed, and we've tried to provide places of welcome for them, and supports for them. Our son-in-law actually runs a workers' co-operative that generates employment for refugees, and Ange has got a lot of involvement with refugees, providing supports and resources for them, and we also work with people with physical, intellectual and psychiatric disabilities in hostels and boarding houses around the neighbourhood, doing everything from support groups to peer counselling, to crisis intervention and help. Rachael Kohn: How do you support your work? I mean it's great to be doing this but how do you support it? Where do you get your crust? Ange Andrews: I'm actually hired by the Baptist Union of Queensland to do some work to set up certain projects within our local community, so that's enough just to cover our costs and then the rest of it is all voluntary and with a lot of other volunteers. My whole approach is people from all professions coming forward and giving some time, not unlimited time, but some time towards addressing a certain issue in their community in Brisbane, or in our local community here. And I do a lot of