in terms of infrastructure works that will come from a couple of places. We haven't be able to get on the Chowilla floodplain because of the recent floods, but we know the Living Murray works that are happening down there, when they happen, will provide savings. They need to be accounted for. That's line A, if you like, that's line B, line C -- I'll come back to those. NVIRP 2 [Northern Victoria Irrigation Renewal Project 2]: we know there are savings from NVIRP 1, they're already embodied in here [points to pre-2012 figure]. NVIRP 2, when the cheque arrives, when work starts down there in northern Victoria, there'll be further savings. I want to be able to bring them to account and deduct them from that second-half number. Equally, I want to give localism a real chance to live. I reckon I should be honest enough to say that this is the numerical regime based on what we know at the moment -- based on best available not the best possible. I think I've got to be honest about that to the community to say that this is based on the best available. But new knowledge should be welcomed and we should be willing to incorporate it. So, what I say in shorthand when talking to communities... If I say, "Your particular stretch of a river needs 10 buckets of water to do whatever I think needs to be done in terms of environmental protection, environmental improvement". And you