a bit of a loon, but he's also taking a very standard polytheistic attitude to the subject. Godlesspanther Well, there is a fundamental problem in covering one's bases in such a manner, and that is that there a several gods that require exclusive worship. The one whose name is "jealous" comes to mind. Jack is a nut. He's also a drunk. I'm sure you know the type -- has had the most exciting and eventful life in the world, but the only thing that anyone else has seen him do is sit around drinking beer. Greisha Maybe somebody already mentioned it, but losing a few pounds may be a very happy occasion. Hero_of_valhalla I'd say his first claim is inaccurate and the other rather blunt. When we say we lost our faith, the underlying implication is that it wasn't necessarily an easy transition, or even one we wanted to make. Some are affected in all areas of their life, not all for the better. The second point of picking and choosing is in my mind a bit of a strawman. At least when I use that bible picking line, I'm implying they cannot just wave the bad away, like so many moderate christians and muslims do. When they do not react to the assholes of their own group, or accuse us atheists of being without morals because they have a good book, I point out that their book isn't any better. Guest there is also "losing weight". I am sure