change taking place? E: Well that is a very tough question to answer because there are forces at work every day, right, and you have to exhaust those forces or they have to have some reason to change their view on what's their best interest in the paper markets. I've always imagined there, or hoped that some industrial user of silver will say "Oh, I can't get the silver" and the word gets out that there is a physical shortage. Or the people just continue to buy at the rate they are buying, because you just can't keep buying silver on a one to one ratio to gold and have the price be 50 to 1. That is mathematically impossible. P: I know that you like silver very much, but let's talk about gold for a minute and please tell me your opinion about Venezuela, Chavez repatriating the gold that they had on deposit with English banks. Is this possibly or potentially the beginning of a new trend of realizing the inventory of real gold by these countries or institutions. E: Sure, well, I think it is one step in the process. One other thing that has happened is we've now seen that central banks are buying gold; while they used to be sellers of physical gold, now they are buyers of physical gold. The GFMS this year suggested that central banks may buy as many at 500 tons of gold, whereas they were sellers last year. And this is