1970s in the planet as a whole. These baby booms added an absurd number of people to the planet, none of which have hit close to their 'natural" life expectancy. I suspect that even under "business as usual" deaths should go up sharply beginning in the 2030s, though that would be too late under Guy's and most of the other boomer timelines. If the human race can pass through the clashing rocks of climate change and peak oil, and people limit themselves to one child or less, I think things would turn out OK as the baby boomers die off. In a similar way, exposure to the supernatural Light raises the spiritual consciousness of receptive people Any concept of "Supernatural Light" is delusional. An object is perceived when the light that bounces off from it reaches the eye. As a result, the appearance of the object is perceived, not the light per se reaching the eye. The Consciousness that illuminates all perception is not ItSelf perceived: it is THE Subject: not being an object, it is not perceived. It cannot be raised or lowered. There is no mysticism about it: it is as real as anything and everything perceived and nothing can be united or separated from it. It doesn't matter to me either way, Robin. Argue it with the Quakers with whom you and your ideology do seem to have some overlap...in the least, with all your talk about light. Remember, you brought up light, and your statement concerning