request for a celebrant). If someone were to use a JOP would we be accusing the government of trying to "replace the structure of religious communities"? I would hope not. FYI this is actually an overlooked area of atheist civil rights that CFI is on the front lines of with a lawsuit in Indiana. Why? Because most states require (unconstitutionally many would contend) that marriages be performed by either a government or religious representative. The "easy" way around this -that CFI refuses to do- is for celebrants to get licensed by a religious organization. All that being said, if you were to look at the totality of organized humanist activities and literature, I submit to you that this would comprise at most maybe 1%. I know many humanist celebrants including Margaret Downey and my wife and almost nobody can make a profession out of it-with the exception of the assorted humanist rabbi. I will concede that "coming of age" and "baby-naming" ceremonies do kind of creep me out as well but I suspect that (especially the former) is a jewish humanist thing, though that goes beyond my realm of knowledge and again, a very limited scope. So to call this a "fascination" as 'Tis Himself did or to imply that this is somehow an important part of organized humanism is to distort reality. [...] I was confused as to the need for a new label.But after reading posts on this by Ashley Miller and Greta Christina, I began to understand