posed, debated and evolved. Atheism needs to become a referenceable moral framework which can be taken seriously. In this way atheism could become relevant and important in the UK. Petchiism on November 11th, 2012 9:25 am Danny, I hope you do not mind me quoting you here but I do as a way to trigger my thoughts and write them here, which I have been meaning to do for a while. You say 'The UK is probably the closest to a society where religion has become irrelevant' and on certain levels I would agree, however, I still think that, socially, it is the biggest elephant in our collective room! Religion is so ingrained in our society, in our ceromonies, laws and language it makes me so angry (and increasingly so!) The trouble is that we cannot openly discuss it and challenge it. When did you last hear anyone ask why we even have an Archbishop of Canterbury when the whole business of religion, in their view was based on a lie? It is just accepted that it is an important role in this country and afforded a huge amount of gravitas. If religion is becoming irrelevant in this country why is this still happening? Why, whenever there is a murder or disaster in a community, does the local vicar or other church leader get wheeled out in front of the cameras to tell us that the response is to gather together and pray for the families effected!!! WHY does the