The initiative as it is meets every two years and it meets in the home of one of the laureates. Shirin Ebadi is one of the laureates. Do you think there is any possibility at all that they will meet in Iran two years from now? NT: I just suggested it to her. I said you know, we should pressure the Iranian government that we want to hold the next conference in Iran and if they don't allow us, that's their shame. We can shame them by showing them that a country like Guatemala that had a long history of dictatorship, corruption, repression, has at least improved to the level that they are allowing a feminist, open, critical conference in their country. They have held it in the best place they have, the most beautiful place, with lots of hospitality. And Iran, such a great country, much bigger country than Guatemala, much richer country than Guatemala, and is also pretending to be the leader of the Shia Muslims or the whole Muslims in the world, if they don't dare to have a hundred or so women activists to come and hold a conference, then its going to speak a lot about the extent of repression and the extent of insecurity on the part of the Iranian government and also the sense of sexism in their views toward women. If they cannot let Nobel women to hold a conference in Iran, they're only going to expose their own weaknesses and the