for the sake of saving having to click on something twice. Despite the negatives (or because of them), I look forward to when a Unix Kernel is underneath the Mac OS (Mac OS X). UNIX is the best CLI and old-school OS that is around. Mac OS is the best GUI and new-school OS that is around. All those years of tweaking and geeking has made Unix pretty clean and fast underneath (even if you do have to know too much). UNIX is still a programmer and geeks dream (and users nightmare). What Apple can bring to the game is one clean STANDARDIZED user interface, and lots more standardized behaviors (and Apps). They can make a UNIX that is designed for users (not just geeks). Apple stands the best chance of bringing UNIX functionality to the masses (by hiding most of it) -- while hopefully still giving the geeks enough of what they crave. Let's hope Apple can walk the fine line and give us the best of both worlds, and not the worst. The closer Apple comes, the more they will be ridiculed by the extremists -- so I'll measure Apple's success by the number of complaints coming from UNIX purists (and the number of praises coming from the rest). For the record, I do know of many good UNIX people, and UNIX people who get the high level, interface, and ease of use stuff. A few even know about the tradeoffs of complexity and configurability. Unfortunately they seem