has to learn from it. In your early teens you headed up some relatively successful local punk bands. Can you talk a bit about that? Sure. I grew up in a little town called Pietermaritzburg. It was the last town held by the English back in the day. It's a kind of colonial little place, beautiful buildings and stuff. There was quite an active band scene, when at that point in time a lot of bands in South Africa were mainly just cover bands. I started playing the electric guitar when I was about 11, and I was pretty good by the time I met a guy a few years later by the name of Dean who was really good on the drums, many years ahead of his age. So we started a band called Incurable, a punk band, with some other musicians. That's where my music career really started I suppose. Following that came a band called Fingerhead. By that time I was quite heavily into industrial music -- Skinny Puppy and Ministry and all that kind of stuff. We had two drummers, two bassists, two guitarists. We did really well and this enabled all of us to travel down to Durban -- the closest big city -- when we were still very young, 14 or 15. It was quite exciting, the beginning of the end. Did you always imagine a career/life in music? I probably more saw myself as a designer or something like that because my skills