i found it very usefull to combine this tarpit stile of play with heavy artillery and one unit of plague monks very effective. Most of the times plaguemonks survived and just been able to clean the board of that what was remaining of enemy units. Re: Skaven in 8th Ed. Ok, i see that russellmoo, you wanted to give help to Erwald, i just wanted to explain to him that in my opinion they are very usefull where about he seemed a bit in doubt of. And thanks for the tip, i will read the thread at page 15 also, so maybe i can extend my abillities to use them in game Re: Skaven in 8th Ed. Plaguemonks are very good for their points. Last league I played a strong slave list (2500 points with 3 big units of slaves (100 / 85 / 85), won the league but it was a little bit boring because I was in every match on the receiving side of the damage output (even if the war of atrition was very effective). But now I want to deale the damage and I have a unit with 35 plague monks with furnace and in the first match it was very effective.You only have to watch for chaff - because of your frenzy it can get worse when your main hammer will only pursuit a few dogs / longbowman / bats etc. Another story: in the league there will be a vampire armywith a strong vampire