living locally, 'hear' above the 'noise'. Hat is off. MB : It's painfully obvious that no one posting to this forum has DONE the hard work. If anyone had, they wouldn't be posting here. Come down off your high horse....that's part of the hard work process, ulvfugl. Not so. I began the hard work many decades ago, and kept with it ever since. I know of what I speak. What that has to do with posting here, I have no idea. perhaps you'll explain. What an odd word to use. Assuming what you say is true, usually puncturing occurs with sharp and/or pointy objects....like a knife, as an example. Yet another contradiction. Some hard work advice. A little introspection goes a long way in ferreting out those glaring contradictions. Give it a try. And, my ego has been punctured so many times, it's nearly impossible to fill it up again....if even only temporarily. However, egos are resilient and somewhat self-repairing and regenerative, so all is not lost. To pretend you don't have one and that it doesn't show in spades, is yet another indication that you're not self-aware, and are not undergoing rigorous introspection. Ego isn't necessarily a dirty word. We all have one....we should acknowledge it, embrace it, and live in harmony with it. If not, it ends up controlling you and making an ass of you...as yours has done to you in this thread and many others. MB : ulvfugl, I feel sympathy and empathy for you. At