outward asking if we have our own house in order before marching off to do battle with the religious right. It asks if our own hearts are true and our own lives exemplary before asking others to join us. The early founders of humanism placed a lot more emphasis on individual character than we do today. They knew that self righteously proclaiming errors in the Bible, the irrationality of belief in God, and railing against church-state entanglements are only part of our duties. We must also define what the good secular life entails. The American Humanist Association has rightly moved to be more activist in recent years, but I hope we never forget to hold the mirror up to our lives, our own meanings, and our own actions, and reflect who we aspire to be. You say, "The plus signals simultaneously inclusiveness" -- in what way is this true? In other posts, you are focused clearly on all those who should NOT be included in your "atheist movement". Choosing different people to include (even if they are less popular) while still excluding many others is not inclusive, it is just a different kind of exclusivity. You want to pick and choose the "good" people for your movement just as religions do. Those that accept your premises are the "good" people and the rest are not allowed into your club. If you change the name of this new religion of yours I will support it. But, as long as you try