without realising it by being a signatory of the UN and the IMF, World Bank and other multiple world agencies. I thought Australians were supposed to be aloof and astute of such cons and double-speak language by the political traitors of this country. This will eventually lead to further uncompetitiveness from Australia and we know what the consequences will surely be. Ummm : 22 Jul 2011 9:31:02am Brendan, you miss the point that a lot of people here ARE making personal efforts RIGHT HERE to cut their emissions. People put solar panels on their roofs, try to curb their use of grid electricity etc. I would be happy to have a 'dung' or methane capturing toilet, if I could. We aren't just getting other poorer countries to shoulder the burden, a lot of people are doing it themselves. And it doesn't have to be considered to be a burden. Living simply is nice. We come from the Earth, are sustained by the Earth, what's wrong with living close to it? Geo : 22 Jul 2011 1:50:57pm There's probably nothing wrong with "living close to Earth", but you at least have that choice. Brendan is saying that the success of the carbon tax is dependent on other people being much 'closer' to Earth than you will ever be, and not by choice but by necessity. Additionally, you are making personal efforts to cut emissions right now, this is commendable but has nothing to do with the carbon tax. Yet I bet