follow? Please be specific and point me to this specific moral code so we can discuss it. This should be good.......... on 05 Nov 2012 at 8:50 pm 35. DPK said ... 21.The messenger said ... 12.Anonymous when that text states that God is with them, it does not mean that the bread and wine have actually transformed into his body and blood, it actually means that God is with us and we are letting him into our hearts and souls. Wrong: Here is what the Catholic Church says: "Paragraph 1376 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) states, The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation (CCC, 1376)." You may apologize to me at any time Messenger. It would be the christian thing to do. Admit you are wrong... then go flog yourself for being a sinner. BTW.. since you have publicly refuted a basic tenant of Catholic doctrine.. you are