is fine, again with just some cosmetic damage to the fronds... Also mine is fine, completely unprotected its whole life. So once again I fail to see what point you are trying to make? Washingtonia have never been considered hardy in the UK & no one has ever said they have a long term future away from the mildest areas... Alan and Lorella's pair in their front garden are apparently doing very well, I havent seen them for a year or so but Lorella mentioned them on the EPS, there wont be anything outside much bigger in this country Im sure Nathan, My point? The plant isn't hardy, at all, Im glad some trees got through 2010 AND 2011, the last two winters were obviously blips, it's nice to be wrong in this case and see Barrie's palm hanging in there Onwards and upwards with the survivors Nathan's right, Washingtonia never has been thought of as UK hardy, never will be either. On the edge of extinction suggests they were established here in the first place. Sure there are some around but they are either in very favoured locations with idea micro climates or they are protected and well looked after. I managed one from seed to a 5 foot trunk out in the garden but I never considered it hardy and knew it was a matter of time before it was killed off. Si wrote: Nathan, My point? The plant isn't hardy, at all, Im glad some trees got