inclined to identify by their economic station or by other social identifiers. Especially for those coming of age. At least that's my possibly offensive view. * -- I really hope this doesn't sound like I am trivializing the gay mind as it goes to voting. Well, maybe I am, but no more or less than I do other groups. The League and it's people-who-spend-a-lot-of-time-thinking-\\... aside, this is how I believe a large percentage of every demographic works. You hear stories about the folks in Puritan New England and how silly they must have been to hang witches (wouldn't, you know, a witch have some pretty decent counter-offensive capabilities?) and we think we know better than that today. And then we look at how cruel certain subsets of the religious folks are to certain subsets of the population in the name of their religion. I hope our society looks back at this sort of thing one day with the same incredulity. "How could they have believed that? Why were they so angry? How did they put so much more effort into being cruel to people who weren't doing anything?" And folks can shrug and shake their heads and laugh sadly at us for being backwards people who just didn't know any better. And that's a little bit of the problem. I think there are/were a significant number of conservatives who opposed gay marriage for secular reasons. I was one of them. That's also why an apology is complicated. I am glad