So yeah, it's been a long old summer playing festivals. I felt more and more a part of the entertainment industry as it went on. And I'm not part of the entertainment industry. I'm an artist and I want to feel like an artist. It's important that I push where I want to go and the audience goes with that if they want to, or doesn't if they don't. Festivals are the death of that. And they've gotten straighter as the years have gone on too. They're less about drugs and rock and roll now. They're more about community. DiS: This must mean that you're looking forward to your own shows? Yes, immensely, because it's about what we do, about us making our own environment not trying to plug into someone else's timeslot. DiS: How do you feel about Sweet Heart, Sweet Light now? You say it didn't get where it felt like it was going? I think it's transient record. I don't know where it's going, I feel like it's a step on the way to something much more important. That's obviously the nature of everything, that's part of a journey, but it was made under circumstances that I kind of brushed off at the time. I had Hepatitis C, which was beginning to show its signs and I had to do something about it. No one gets a year off from treatment, you know 'When do you want a year off?' It just doesn't happen, and I was