right decision to make is irrelevant, it is my dicision. Forcing someone to live somewhere or work somewhere is slavery. Is that what you want to do? By the way, there has to be a government. I have never said there should be no government. Without a government then some powerful private entity or country will fill the void. You should re-read some of my posts and apply your intellect instead of dismissing them. Something I tell smart kids with potential, "The day you quit thinking you are so smart will be the day you realize how little you know and finally start learning." I do realize you are a proponant of Socialistic government because of your own nature. That is okay. It takes all kinds to make the world go round, plus it helps those like me to have an adversary to prove our point. at least that is the common opinion. however, it is just an assumption, and its foundation is not too strong. in my view, each and every role of the government should be reviewed and scrutinized. if it proves itself unnecessary, we should take that function away. whether anything remains that can not be provided better by freely cooperating people is an open question. i don't think that we can find strong arguments that something can not possibly be provided this way much better than the government way. I agree with your initial question and the following comments that you made but I do not