a meaning of that term other than upsetting someone I disagree with. In no other subject, ie politics, business could anyone get away with such behaviour. It is not as though I was being rude or personally offensive, just disagreeing on a point of argument. Virtus83 on October 28th, 2012 1:46 pm From a pragmatic point of view, religion serves no positive purpose that any other real world alternative could not adequately address with actual results. As a rationalist it quite frankly disgusts me that something can be literally beaten around people's heads without even a sniff of proof or evidence to back it up! What are arguably the world's most ridiculous claims are accepted at governmental levels without question, but any other principle of life open to scrutiny is demanded of to produce the self same evidence, even though it may be glaringly obvious it is true, it must still be proved! Oh but not God, no how dare I question the veracity of a non testable, unprovable, fictitious, strangely male oriented but still supernatural, invisible overlord!! How narrow minded of me, the blasphemous atheist sceptic who is clearly the devils banner bearer! It is perversely amusing to me because if there was some evidence found then it is the scientific community that the religious so vehemently oppose that would be the one's capable of providing actual proof! Head to wall repeated forceful contact anyone? lt_zippy2 on October 28th, 2012 2:03 pm For me it's the oft quoted fact