you'd better change your strategy... fast. Even if we do not reach 6000, we should easily reach 1000 and that's not bad. we need to agree on a location and time. Richard, get organising. Leonie your link seemed to be broken. What's important is we turn up and protest in a totally peaceful way. For me this will be a double protest as I will be taking this opportunity to also protest against ID Cards. I will be there, will you? Grant, I grant you this, you are ardent - though I want to ask you why? Double protests at one protest to protest not being allowed to protest the infringement on your right to protest? Why not just nonviolently refuse accepting them (ID cards) when they crop up - (if they do), and do what you feel is effective to initiate change now in a small group of 3-6 instead of getting 1,000 or 6,000 to make a change (instead of a point). Why make a 'big deal-meal' out of a 'snack type issue'? Initiate the change you want to see - why complain to 'your government' if only you would see that you can be an initiator of change yourself. Why not turn up and do something proactive and nonviolent instead of reactive? Grant -- yes, sorry the link is now broken. There was a bit of concern about public access to emails which could be used as evidence if anybody was accused of organising an unauthorised protest.