end of the comment who has a personality and a life, unless it's from a spam bot. That's beside the point that you were making that people only post here because they don't 'know themselves', if that's what you meant. "It's painfully obvious that no one posting to this forum has DONE the hard work. If anyone had, they wouldn't be posting here." Got to be the arrogant comment of the month. Mighty big shovel you are moving the shit around with now MB. How in the jive-blueberry-camel-flea-infested-testi\\... board-spew-bucket could YOU know what anyone else has DONE. I will not fall for the bait and discourse here on my own pintsized worldly achievments, but your logic is somewhere up a hippos arse Mate, jostling for room with the frogs that are way ahead of you. Are you just bored, and are you the 'type' who needs to provoke with comparitive immunity? You still haven't addressed my earlier question about community, belonging and obligations, and needing support when attacked. Too hard for you? It is diversionary tactics that make me suspect other agendas here. Either some pathology, or immaturity of mind, regardless of your real world relations and delivery of those responsibilities, or perhaps other motives, which I dare not speculate about. What the hell is wrong with you(r online avatar)? We have a hooting owl that never shuts up here more bareable than your attempts to provoke sparring. The owl is so persistant now almost 24/7, our kids now refer