I saw Peter Brotzmann play there, and Thurston Moore played a show there, and some other people, and it feels like those shows are pushing the edges of music. Sometimes you have to wait a while to hear the real beauty, and because it's improvised, it can just as easily go to areas that aren't so interesting, but equally, it can go to places that are truly wonderful. I want to go somewhere like that, and I want to do something freer. The last album felt closed in, partly to do with the confines of pop music. You have a given set of rules. I'm not saying I want to make an album of free music, because these people I'm talking about are doing it so much better than I ever could. Also, I want to follow through on some of the collaborative ideas I had for the last album that I never pursued. Peter Brotzmann said he was making music with me for the last album but I wasn't really fit enough to do it. Rather than having an existing band that you try to get to go with you, I figured I would find musicians who were already working in an area that I wanted to go to, that I found interested. So if I wanted to do something that sounded like Thurston, and I'm not talking about Sonic Youth, I mean the freer stuff he does, I would go to him rather than finding a way there