Most of you only join because you can't get a real job.  If you have any brains you would have finished high school at least and learned what the first and second amendment mean.  And BTW, thanks for fight for my right to call you a jarhead. Marine@rest You are aware that "Jarhead" isn't something  to be ashamed of aren't you?  Proud to be associated with that handle. Indyearth To continue this, I will say nicely, debate -- there are many over generalizations -- logical fallacies, and personally heated opinions that this can easily run wild... There are people who are not competent enough, and should never own a firearm. Of those that could/should, there are those who should not be allowed to carry a firearm -- openly or concealed. There are persons who entered military service as a 'last resort'. Some, being raised and indoctrinated into a religion or mindset -- do so out of idealism and/or belief. None of which precludes them being idiots, stupid, nor thrill seeking freaks as possibly implied above by others. Thank you to those who served. There are conflicts that I have not agreed with that they have participated in... Our opinions are our own, and sacred. The intent is everything. I am a well trained near pacifist who owns a gun, and has a permit to carry concealed. Whether I carry or not isn't the point, I can if I feel it necessary, and have the right to do so. I am