and can only increase. All that will be needed is the coming storm brought by the relentless increase in energy costs. These are just the most predictable possible events I believe. I think you both underestimate the extent to which Western European societies have been feminized. Europe has sat under the US nuclear umbrella for almost 70 years and its martial instincts have withered away. Brevik was (rightly) considered by his society to be a madman. Not a madman with followers like Hitler but a lone nutcase. He proves nothing. The fact that one man could slaughter 69 without encountering any resistance shows how far gone the society really is. Throughout history, societies such as this are invaded and replaced by ones made of tougher stuff. Could it be, for example, that European-stock people were so bleached out by the 2 world wars that the "real men" genes effectively died below some threshold required for the maintenance of societal continuity? Arabs and Blacks were not affected much by these conflicts, and therefore, it might be argued, remain as reproductively robust, led by self-confident "Big Men", and well able to guiltlessly repress the aggressive feminism that is contributing so much to the demographic collapse in the West. Or is that whites in general are more susceptible to guilt, and therefore open to manipulation into the kind of "out-group altruism" that permits mass-immigration, and encourages otherwise intelligent professionals to send their kids to die in places like Haiti, Afghanistan and the black