from the early settlements but the American Revolutionary Wars, which preceded independence, were faught on two fronts -- against British army in the east and against the Indians in the west." That should be: "There were battles between the colonialists -- British and French -- and Native Americans from the early settlements but the American Revolutionary Wars, which preceded independence, were faught on two fronts -- against British army in the east and against the Indians in the west." Bob: 'That's just your usual personal abuse. It does not amount to rational argument.' It's a (polemical) observation, Bob, learn the difference. And I note, you've still not responded to what I said: i.e., in contrast to what you said (post 86: 'What happened to the native peoples of Australia and the US was the outcome of the policies of their respective sovereign governments'), the initial dispossession of the native peoples of North America and Australia occurred long before either of these countries had their own sovereign governments. Either you're simply unable to follow the standard pattern of an argument (i.e. raising *directly relevant* counter-points to the original point), or you're being deliberately evasive. Feodor: "Either you're simply unable to follow the standard pattern of an argument (i.e. raising *directly relevant* counter-points to the original point), or you're being deliberately evasive." And you, Feodor are a silly, dense adolescent IMO Check the dates @90. The US was a fully independent sovereign state at the time of the major Indian wars, involving