Definition Of Muslim
Respectfully I don’t think u understand the question I asked nor my last reply. I m not advocating to call Qadyani or any other non Muslim Kafir nor I have the capacity nor Allah premised me to distribute certifications for Muslims. I really wished that Ghamdi sb may clear my misunderstanding if I’m incorrect or any Scholar that can understand what I m questioning. I have not asked this question for debate or argument but to the answer why a Muslim cannot be defined if Christians are those who believe in Christ, Jewish distinguish by their believes, then why a Muslim cannot be defined in a simpler way. You have not replied to my basic question but took the discussion on a very different path, if u really want to help then let me guide why you are opposing a single simple definition for a Muslim that may clear concepts of many and make the foundation of Islam strong? What is the disadvantage of clarifying the basic terminology to be a Muslim? I not want to be in a debate but asking the question who truly understand Islam and clarify the question I asked whether it is incorrect or otherwise. As per your own profile, you are not a Scholar then why you replying without understanding the essence of the question. Being Moderator, you should facilitate the discussion and not take aside. I m not interested in your views or thinking as you are not qualified to answer the question then why you are replying and making confusion. I already tried to explain. So please ethically and morally you should stop replying and redirect my question to who truly an answer. Thanks… For your clarity further replying to your last reply inline hopefully you understand my earlier and current request as described above and further below: Thank you for sharing your opinions, but they’re not in line with the message of Islam. “denying khatum e nabowat is denial of quran itself” Ahmedis interpret certain verses of the Quran differently. They provide evidence for their beliefs from Quran itself. We consider their understanding incorrect and provide evidence for their error, however, they have the right to call themselves Muslims and this is completely inline with the Quran itself. This is the full text “Yes Islam not give us leverage to segregate muslim and non muslim but do Islam allow someone to claim to be a Muslim while denying khatum e nabowat? Infact denying khatum e nabowat is denial of quran itself.” If you believe in Quran then you have to accept it in full spirit not as per your own understanding. One has no right to mold meanings of Quran as they want and, in that sense, I have called denial of Khatam e Nabowat is a denial of Quran (I hope you got my point). This is what I believe but every Scholar of Islam believes including Ghamdi sb and that it is the basic belief of Islam. So my question for you are they incorrect? If believing in Khatam e Nabowat is basic for a Muslim then why anyone who not believe in this has the right to called a Muslim. If they are Muslim then what you call me? Ghamdi Sb itself explain the concept of Khatum e Nabowat (below is the link) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4G8-790eI&t=0s at another place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXq_Cpv0xm8 You are very generous to reply Qadyani/Ahmedi for correction but you are opposing me that is asking why we cannot clarify the basic belief of Islam by defining the definition of Muslim so that an ordinary Muslim like me know to stop someone when try to attack basic beliefs by telling me the story of Hazart Isa (ES) and their re-appearance. This also explained very well by Ghamdi sb himself and I hope u have listened to him and his clarification about believes of Ibn Arabi. If I may ask Do I stated Qadyani/Ahmedi Kafir elsewhere in my question or any of the replies? No, I haven’t said that then why you are taking this position? Or shared link of the video by Ghamdi sb. This you referred incorrectly at an incorrect place as I m not questioning the belief of anyone. “They prepared them and ask them to distract normal Muslim kids and youngsters“ That’s a commendable thing. What keeps us from teaching our youth the basis of our beliefs? “The difference between Shia and Sunni is not a question of faith and belief…“ There are many fundamental differences of belief among Shia and Sunni, as well as other factions of Islam. If you study these differences more academically, I bet that you will find many differences which are even deeper than the matter of finality of prophethood. Respected, I have not asked/questioned or ask your guidance and opinion about Shia and Sunni, but let me ask even it is out of the scope of my question and entire discussion. Are basic beliefs of Islam for Shia and Sunni is different? Do they not believe in the oneness of Allah Almighty and Khatem e Nabowat of Holy Prophet (PBUM)? When I am capable to understand Islam, I will study the difference between Shia and Sunni. Being a Moderator, you should avoid such discussions and spreading such differences while discussing of basic beliefs. “Lastly if you are saying different Muslims have different beliefs then are you sure u r OK if someone goes and turns to Ahmedi/Qadyani“ Yes. There is no compulsion in Islam. Even if my own son finds Ahmedi’s beliefs correct on the basis of evidence, I will explain to him why he’s wrong but in the end it will be his own choice. It is not my domain to make him believe whatever I believe in. My job is to empathetically explain to him what I believe in and why. On the day of judgement I will be held accountable for my deeds and he will be for his, independent of each other’s. Yes, there is no compulsion in Islam but it does not mean that there I no difference between Muslim and Non-Muslims. One should clear that Khatem e Nabowat is the core of the belief of a Muslim and who is denying it will not remain Muslim. Being a Qadyani is not like being Brailwi and Deobandi, it’s a clear change of religion. “What if Christian and Jew start calling them Muslims“ That would be a very happy day of my life! Calling not make them Muslims not its not matter of happiness but concern that they are ambushing the identification of Muslim. I can see the confusion you’re facing, however, the Quran is very clear that the basis of accountability for us will be our belief in God, the day of judgment, and good deeds. It even names Christians and Jews amongst others who will be granted paradise (Quran verse 2:62, also repeated elsewhere). Anyone can make honest errors in understanding the word of God. When that happens, our job is to clarify that error with proper evidence. Anyone who prays salat and gives zakat is our Muslim brother (Quran verse 9:11). I m not confused nor distracted and knew what I questioned. May Allah protect us from quoting Quran and Hadith out of context. You may need to listen to Lectures of Ghamdi sb where he explained who will go in the Heavens. If you mean anyone paying Zakat and Prayers are Muslim. You should read Al-bayan for Surah Tubah and context of this holy verse.