Why God Will Never Forgive Shirk?
Thank you for the link. It mostly discusses why there cannot be multiple gods. The conclusion has been.. 1. Our nature tells us that there is only one god 2. If there were multiple gods they would have conflict between them 3. Harmony in the universe proves there is one god 4. No other god has claimed to be a god. Or at leat there is no other authentic book claiming this. 5. Allah didn’t tell us that he has taken partners 6. If there were multiple gods then there must be another creator of those gods as the ultimate god has to be uncreated as that is the definition of real god. ———————– Response to the above conclusions.. 1. Our nature tells us that that someone must have created this universe, but our nature does tell us that there must be one god. This argument doesn’t have much weight. It is not convincing. 2. Multiple gods having conflict doesn’t carry weight either. Not workimg harmoniously and having conflict seems to be human trait. Gods can’t be like humans. 3. Harmoney in the universe is not everyone’s perspective. Some think there Chaos and randomness in the universe. Even on Earth there are quakes, floods, storms and lot of Chaos….not harmony. 4. This is where convincing argument starts. I do not see another convincing claim from any other god. 5. Since only our Allah has convincing claim on being a god, he has not told us that there are any other gods. 6. This is the most convincing argument for one God. ————- All above is good but it doesn’t answer my question. An illiterate person not familiar with Quran or detais of Islam cannot tell just by his nature or internal voice that there is only one god and not to commit Shirk. To commit shirk he need to know Islam in detail and then deliberately make partners with god to be avtially lying about god. So still I think only someone very well familiar with Quran can lie and commit Shirk; otherwise the person is just following blindly to a religious scholar or just guessing how many gods are out there.
Also I think the title of this conversation is incorrect. The title should be “Does commiting Shirk requires knowingly lying about god”
Please refer to: Discussion 18935 Also Ghamidi sahab has explained fitrah in a lot of detail. Please see: Discussion 30094