Causing Others To Do A Sin By Doing A Sin, Or A Generic Halal
@Irfan76 sir i have a question that. if for example i have a Hindu friend that says that “Whatever help of humans i do, i do it for the sake of our lord krishna, whenever i help someone i have this intention to please lord krishna “. now sir if i know that this Hindu friend, has made an intention that what ever help he does of humanity, he has intention to please his false god. so every act of help he does he associates it with his god, which makes his act a shirk and wrong act. now sir at an instance if I’m stuck at a place or in a situation where I need his assistance, or even if I’m not stuck, i just want him to help me so that i get a relief of a situation. i am saying this, so that he helps me, but the problem is that the moment he helps me his act will be Haram too. will i get sin if after knowing this i ask for his help, wanting him to help me?
Do not Help in sin is about Haq talfi and Zyadiati. On the other hand, Muslims are allowed to marry a Christian girl who is a polytheist and she is allowed to perform her religious prayer in a Muslim man’s house with all the facilities she is provided with. The sin of beliefs is a matter between individuals and God. We do our job and let the people do theirs.
These things can never be a sin. The actual sin will be counted only.
@Irfan76 sir I want to discuss one understanding that came in my mind. when I was trying to figure out if in the example of Rajesh. his eating food , immediately causes him to feel the want to thank his false god. and this want causes him to do shirk. so while wondering if that action of him eating, will come under la taqrabu or not. I started to compare it with example of things where Quran applied this principle of ‘la taqrabu’ in the cases related to Zina. I noticed that the things where Quran made it impermissible to do things, were all those actions. which if a person does then he keeps getting sucked towards Zina in such a way that despite knowing the seriousness of sin and it’s reality, he usually can’t keep control of himself and still slip into the Zina. thus a lustful touch to a woman will suck him towards Zina in such a way that despite knowing the seriousness of sin, he won’t be able to escape the temptation generally. so Allah stopped the lustful touch. And this thing is understandable that if generally humans had the power to control themselves after touching then there was no need to make it impermissible to touch a woman. Just as when a person is fasting, he can generally control himself while watching delicious food and ice cold drinks, when he goes to a place where he can see them. even if it tempts him, he can overcome this temptation with ease, so there is no need to make it impermissible to visit a place where such foods are present while a person in fasting. So it made me understand this point of view that maybe in “La taqrabu” only those things fall which a person, after doing them, will get suck into sin, even while knowing it reality of being a big sin. So in example of Rajesh, even though this leads him always to do Shirk immediately after eating. this occurrence of Shirk is not because of he feels a very strong uncontrollable impulse of doing shirk, which he can’t avoid easily. he can avoid it normally if only he believes that this thing of shirk he is doing is a sin and wrong act. which means that if he had believed it to be shirk, he would have avoided it normally even after eating food (it’s not like touching woman, where even the person knowing the reality of Zina, gets sucked towards Zina with a difficult to break spell and does Zina). so even for Rajesh here, eating won’t be a sin under “la taqrabu” and me wanting him to eat the food despite knowing that shirk will happen, I won’t be blamed for wanting the other person to do a sinful act becaue eating is not a sinful act for Rajesh. But on the other hand, if Rajesh were to touch a his girlfriend with lust even if he believes it’s halal to have have sexual relationship with his girlfriend. even if he believes that, touching a woman will be falling under “la taqrabu” for him. and if I want and wish and facilitate him to achieve this act of “touching his girlfriend”, then I’ll be sinful too. because here the nature of the act is that even if Rajesh accepted and believed that Zina is Haram and big sin. then after touching he wouldn’t have been able to control himself. this thing would put an difficult to break spell on him, attracting towards Zina, even if he were to know it’s Haram. So that’s what makes the difference… that me facilitating and wanting Rajesh to eat food, despite knowing that eating will cause him to do Shirk immediately. because eating does not fall under “la taqrabu” for him, because had he believed the shirk to be Haram, he could easily avoided it. but me, wanting and facilitating Rajesh to touch his girlfriend, will remain sinful for me, because touching comes under “la taqrabu” even for Rajesh, because had he believed that Zina is Haram. he would still fall in it because of strong attraction. sir am I right to understand this? please help me clear my concepts, because if it’s correct then it can be a principle for me to judge scenarios but if it’s wrong then I’ll fall in big errors if I use this principle. can you please explain me.
With consent touching is allowed in some societies but still it is considered not appropriate for a certain age. It shows that its inappropriateness is still felt.