Does God Lie 2?
You’re stuck on a presumption that there’s some bigger reality than God. I think that given the constraints of our mode of communication I have done the best that I could to explain that such is not the case. God is that ultimate reality. He is the source of truth. He is the truth. Falsehood is nothing more than the absence of truth. Imagine the ultimate reality in your mind and the equate it with God. When we say God, that’s exactly what we refer to. There’s nothing beyond Him. That’s the reason why we can’t get higher than Him to judge Him. God lying to us is an oxymoron. The conclusion you’re drawing is called an absurdity in the study of logic. Until you understand this, I’m afraid that I won’t be able to help any further on this topic.
Could you just clarify this thing then- in what terms is God the truth? In my messages above I tried to prove that he his the ultimate truth in terms of existence. What about him being the reality but lying about himself. Can someone who is true in existence not lie about themselves?
Think of it this way- you think it’s illogical- that’s exactly what the design is. You think he wouldn’t do it because he has no reason to, meaning that we are searching for his motives. So what if all our knowledge goes to the bin? How are we to call something absolutely true or false or in existence or not? We just go in with our lives in a pragmatic way not knowing anything
Maybe his motives are such that they would seem illogical to you or a motive that you could never understand
the thing that says ‘I am’ cannot be doubted Personally I agree, but there are plenty of philosophers that do not.
What evidence? The ones that we, with our assumptions (that our senses are reliable) think of and discover? The meaning is simply that humans cannot know certain knowledge. Everything is a pragmatic use of knowledge. I have never experienced the floor to fall out from under me but I have no way to disprove that it’s actually just a virtual reality simulator. In terms of human knowledge- a hypothesis requires evidence for it to be true. The hypothesis that history occurred or that the world physically exists is made. The evidence for which is our senses. But what is the intrinsic value of our senses? The above reasoning is what makes you think that we can’t know anything for certain. Maybe my logic itself is flawed. Maybe our creator locked off some specific realities or experiences or parts of reason required to access an ultimate understanding. Until then, I don’t think any of our knowledge is certain. Just prove to me the universe wasn’t created 5 minutes ago and all your memories aren’t just faked. I don’t think you can
That’s QUITE a huge assumption that the dream experience is exactly similar to that of reality when one is awake.