Lahmul Khinzeer – Flesh Of Swine
This hadith has nothing to do with pork. I hope I am also using my brain to ask the question I asked above. Why did God not say ‘Pig is made haraam for you’ Why did he use the phrase the flesh of pig?
Jews also had brain and they were thinking that they were smart to use the fat which was forbidden. See what prophet Muhammad pbuh said about them: ‎حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، وَزُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، وَإِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، وَاللَّفْظُ لِأَبِي بَكْرٍ، قَالُوا: حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ، عَنْ عَمْرٍو، عَنْ طَاوُسٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، قَالَ: بَلَغَ عُمَرَ أَنَّ سَمُرَةَ بَاعَ خَمْرًا، فَقَالَ: قَاتَلَ اللهُ سَمُرَةَ، أَلَمْ يَعْلَمْ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ: «لَعَنَ اللهُ الْيَهُودَ، حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْهِمُ الشُّحُومُ، فَجَمَلُوهَا، فَبَاعُوهَا»، Sahih Muslim – 4050 Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) reported: This news reached ‘Umar that Samura had sold wine, whereupon he said: May Allah destroy Samura; does he not know that Allah’s Messenger ( ‌صلی ‌اللہ ‌علیہ ‌وسلم ‌ ) said: Let there be the curse of Allah upon the Jews that fat was declared forbidden for them, but they melted it and then sold it ?
I think upon further reflection one can have a personal opinion that he should not eat gelatine from pork and other internal organs etc. However I think we have to be careful on not making what Allah has made haraam haraam by ourselves. The word used is clearly lahm and to extend that, by our own logic to mean gelatine is simply not supported by the text I think
My dear young friend. Your mind is admirable, indeed a rare mind. If you remember, we had a discussion on drinking water from a sabeel dedicated to another God and I said it is permissible and provided my reason. You were a little resistant to that idea. There were no written words in the quran about it and yet you extrapolated it to be nonpermissible. I could be wrong to remember it that way but that is the feeling I have about that conversation. If extrapolation is not allowed now then it should also be not allowed then. The principle should remain the same, correct! I admire the concept of following the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. If we take one out then something misses out. If one is convinced of something then why the question? Stay blessed, always.
Peace! Ahmad, regarding gelatin, if I remember correctly, Ghamidi Sahb did say that if something undergoes a chemical change, the حرمت is no longer applied to it. Mufti Abu Layth uses the same principle (استحالة) to say that gelatin is permissible, in his Monday Nights Session 126. If you haven’t yet, you can check it out.
The issue that Ghamidi sahab just says the principles but doesn’t apply them 😂😂