Why People Are Leaving Islam?
Faraz sahab, according to Ask Ghamidi Code of Conduct I normally refrain from commenting on anything not directly related to the original question, however, I find it necessary to respond to your comments above. I have studied atheism and I can very confidently tell you that thus far it’s a baseless ideology. Yes, it does look very logical on the surface. However, just like for the past 1000+ years the ideology of Neoplatonism impressed the greatest minds of that time despite being purely speculative, atheism is also purely conjectural in nature even though it manages to cast its spell on many great minds of our time. “…it explains formation of universe, formation of humans…” The last time I checked, that’s not the case. “Question is which God? Allah, Yahaweh, Krishna or Zeus?” The question assumes that there are multiple gods. That’s not what the religion claims. The religion claims that there’s only one true God. Which viewpoint about God is correct can be determined with due effort in a pretty scientific manner. “Our scholars think if they can deny evolution, they’ll defeat atheism” I believe so too, however, I’m not concerned about defeating anyone. My only concern is to follow the truth for my own satisfaction. The theory of evolution has many gaps, in fact, if one digs deep it turns out to be nothing more than a mythical concept. However, without evolution, atheism is just plain denial of God without any basis in knowledge, reason, or rationality. “way we answer, it doesn’t add anything to the discussion and it also doesn’t make any sense” I agree that Muslim scholarship is far behind in correctly presenting their view in this regard. Christian scholars, however, have done a fantastic job of pointing out the absurdities of evolution and thereby atheism. Michael Behe, Francis Collins, Edger Andrews, Stephen Myer, David Berlinski, and many more scholars some of whom belong to either the Intelligent Design or the Progressive Creationism schools have done a fabulous job in this regard. Even though many go through a lot of trouble in answering New Atheism through scientific facts, I think that the idea doesn’t even deserve that much academic attention. The very basis of evolution as well as atheism is nothing more than conjectures at this time. Long story short, there’s simply no ideology out there at this time that can explain this universe without an intelligent agent. Ones who claim that they can, can only do so through huge unscientific assumptions aka fiction.
I had seen a video of Ghamidi Sahab where he was talking about atheism and said that I had read the philosophy of last 2500 years and non of philosophers denied the god Did he read the Hinduism and eastern philosophy????
Faraz sahab, I think that I responded to your concern regarding Allah, Krishna, and Zeus in my previous response, but to reiterate, each claim can be validated on the basis of it’s evidence. Once it’s understood that three different viewpoints exist regarding God, each one can be investigated and the most plausible viewpoint can be accepted. This exercise is not any different than what we do in science or any other field of knowledge on a daily basis. Evidence for any book that bears the claim of a divine scripture can also be independently investigated and established (or refuted). Once it has been established as such then there’s no problem in referring to it. Why do we need to insist that things must be established without referring to the Quran (or any other scripture)? It’s like demanding that the universe must be explained without the theory of universal gravity. It’s taught in schools, however, there are differences of opinion on it. It doesn’t mean that we should throw it out the window. Until a better theory can be established, why not use it to our own advantage? God of the gaps is a self contradictory analogy to begin with. As soon as we say the word God, we’re referring to an entity that by definition knows more than it’s creation because He’s the Creator. So what if we attribute the gaps to Him? Had we established that human beings were omniscient themselves then this criticism would be valid, otherwise it’s just bogus. Besides as Muslims we not only attribute the gaps in our knowledge to God, but in fact we attribute all knowledge to God. Also it’s not as if those who turn to the God of the gaps criticism have actually filled those gaps with any empirical evidence themselves. Yes sure, we have made tremendous advancements in science and are now in a position to explain many things that earlier we only attributed to God, but our explanations today require an intelligent agent (God) as desperately as they required it before. Instead of God, they simply attribute unknown things to randomness and nature, which is completely absurd. What’s randomness? It’s nothing more than a disgraceful surrender that we fail to scientifically explain the underlying mechanism of a phenomenon. As soon as words like probable, must have, randomness, aliens, or God are invoked, we have transcended the boundaries of science. The domain of science is to investigate empirical evidence, discover cause and effect (causation), and explain repeatable and testable mechanisms within this universe. Calling random mutation and natural selection a science is a total disgrace to science! I might as well call it alien mutation and genie selection and there’s no way any Darwinian will ever be able to refute me! Long story short, the idea of Darwinism and thereby scientific atheism tantamount to nothing more than an extraordinary work of fiction thus far. What happens in the future is anybody’s guess! I’ll end with a quick note about the names I mentioned in my previous post and you responded to. It doesn’t matter if an idea was attempted to be refuted, or if an author is an agnostic. An academic approach would be to sincerely try to understand their criticism along with any refutations and form our opinions based on the weight of the arguments as established by the provided evidence.
Assalamualaikum Faraz bhai Some points by Atheism 1- Faith is a thing which you reach without any reason , conclusion, evidence, rational . Faith is blind (Faith is described as religion) Faith become reality due millions of people stated believing in it. 2- Religious people don’t have evidence, reason about what they believe. They have only sentiment. Only thing can defend their beliefs is sentiment 3- Religious people got hurt when they and their religion is exposed by rationality, reason etc 4- In any so called holy book you can’t find any scientific thing or about physical phenomena of nature which were not known about time like Earth is geospherical, Earth is moving etc 5-Every religious people is 90% atheist because he/she rejected all others faith on the basis evidence , reason etc and become irrational about his own faith or religion. 6- If we read history we find religion is violent everywhere. Religion killed people . Please explain with reference to Quran and Islam @Sid