God – An Idea Of Burning People With Fire
It wasn’t an argument to begin with though but alright. “What we must do is judge the statements and punishments according to wisdom justice and knowledge” Agreed but I’m afraid a general statement like this means nothing much. Clearly you have something more interesting to say, so say it.
(This image is clearer in my mind with the idea of a parent thank a ruler to be honest- because a parent does kind of ‘own’ their child). So if a child starts to love another man as though he is his father instead of his real father- we would expect the father to punish the child I agree that seems fitri. But burn the child? This is not just at all. The punishment of words should be equivalent words or equivalent physical force. It’s a very clear difference in my mind- punishment of burning for a couple of days for a rapist murderer mutilator seems perfectly fine. Punishment for a rebellious child giving the rights of his father to another man should be nowhere near that.
1. Yes the analogy is not perfect that is true. 2. This is an interesting argument, if you violate a random woman’s right on the street that would be lesser than your own mother’s given that she is more ‘valuable’ to you. However, the issue is that can someone be so valuable- leading to any violation of their rights meaning eternal burning? 3. We have a very general idea of levels of justice for human beings. We certainly don’t burn anyone for anything. We don’t mutilate someone if they swear for example. So this is just using that same principle with analogy to God.
‘Now are you really just gonna let the terrorist go, just because no pain was caused?’ We would punsh him in a lesser way. We don’t know if he might’ve at the last second changed his mind. You could say Allah knows exactly what we’d do. But he has chosen to test us on our actions, not his knowledge. You have given some reasons as to which rebellion may be bad- but what IS rebellion? We can’t overthrow his authority so what actually is rebellion against God? The quran says kufr in contrast to shukr not rebellion