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EMERGENCY MEETING (FINANCIAL ACTION TASK FORCE (FATF) BILLS) TUESDAY 01 FEBRUARY 2022 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 204 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon.

Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP.

DEPUTY SPEAKER Hon.

P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP.

(Tonota) Clerk of the National Assembly Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel Assistant Clerk (E) His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP.

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP.


(Boteti West) CABINET - President - Vice President - Ms B. N. Dithapo - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe - Ms K. Kokoro - Mr R. Josiah Hon.

K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP.

(Molepolole South) - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

K. T. Mmusi, MP.

(Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon.

Dr L. Kwape, MP.

(Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon.

K. K. Autlwetse, MP.


(Specially Elected) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon.

K. S. Gare, MP.

(Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

P. K. Kereng, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism Hon.

Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP.

(Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon.

T.M.

Segokgo, MP.

(Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon.

K. Mzwinila, MP.
K. Mzwinila, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon.

T. M. Rakgare, MP.

(Mogoditshane) - Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development Hon.

A. M. Mokgethi, MP.

(Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon.

P. O. Serame, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon.

F. M. M. Molao, MP.

(Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Hon.

Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP.


(Tati East) Hon.

L. M. Moagi, MP.

(Ramotswa) - Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology - Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security Hon.

M. Kgafela, MP.

(Mochudi West) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

M. R. Shamukuni, MP.

(Chobe) - Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development Hon.

E. M. Molale, MP.

(Goodhope-Mabule) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Hon.
D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP.

(Gaborone South) - Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

S. N. Modukanele, MP.

(Lerala -Maunatlala) Hon.

T. Monnakgotla, MP.

(Kgalagadi North) Hon.

M. M. Pule, MP.

(Mochudi East) Hon.

M. S. Molebatsi, MP.


(Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

S. Lelatisitswe, MP.

(Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon.

N. W. T. Makwinja, MP.

(Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon.

B. Manake, MP.
B. Manake, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

H. B. Billy, MP.

(Francistown East) Hon.

A. Lesaso, MP.

(Shoshong) - Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency Hon.

L. Kablay, MP.

(Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon.

Dr U. Dow, MP.

Hon.


P. Majaga, MP.

Hon.

M. Balopi, MP.

Hon.

J. S. Brooks, MP.

Hon.

C. Greeff, MP.

Hon.

T. Letsholo, MP.

Hon.

T. F. Leuwe, MP.

Hon.

T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP.

Hon.

Dr T. Matsheka, MP.

Hon.

S. N. Moabi, MP.

Hon.

P. K. Motaosane, MP.

Hon.

O. Regoeng, MP.

Hon.

J. L. Thiite, MP.


Specially Elected Nata-Gweta Gaborone North Kgalagadi South Gaborone Bonnington South Kanye North Takatokwane Gaborone Central Lobatse Tati West Thamaga-Kumakwane Molepolole North Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon.

D. Saleshando, MP.

(Leader of the Opposition) Hon.

M. G. J. Motsamai, MP.


(Opposition Whip) Maun West Ghanzi South Selebi Phikwe West Mahalapye East Sefhare-Ramokgonami Ngami Okavango Maun East Bobonong Selebi Phikwe East Palapye Nkange Mahalapye West Francistown West Hon.

D. L. Keorapetse, MP.

Hon.

Y. Boko, MP.

Hon.

Dr K. Gobotswang, MP.

Hon.

C. K. Hikuama, MP.

Hon.

K. K. Kapinga, MP Hon.

G. Kekgonegile, MP.

Hon.

T. B. Lucas, MP.

Hon.

K. Nkawana, MP.

Hon.

O. Ramogapi, MP.

Hon.

Dr N. Tshabang, MP.

Hon.

D. Tshere, MP.

Hon.


M. I. Moswaane, MP.

Hon.

T. S. Khama, MP.

Hon.

L. Lesedi, MP.

Hon.

B. Mathoothe, MP.

Hon.

M. Reatile, MP.

(Botswana Patriotic Front) Serowe West Serowe South Serowe North Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon.

W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.
Francistown South (Alliance for Progressives) TABLE OF CONTENTS EMERGENCY MEETING (FINANCIAL ACTION TASK FORCE (FATF) BILLS) TUESDAY 01 FEBRUARY, 2022 CONTENTS PAGE (S) SPEAKER’S REMARKS..........................................................................................................................................2 Removal of Items 14, 15 and 16 from the Order Paper Motion.................................................................................................................................................................2-6 GOVERNMENT BILLS Movable Property (Security Interests) Bill, 2021 (No.
49 of 2021) Committee Stage....................................................................................................................................................7 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................16 Companies (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
36 of 2021) Committee Stage....................................................................................................................................................8 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................17 Counter Terrorism (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
40 of 2021) Committee Stage....................................................................................................................................................8 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................17 Criminal Procedure and Evidence (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
41 of 2021) Committee Stage....................................................................................................................................................8 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................17 Extradition (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
42 of 2021) Committee Stage.................................................................................................................................................8-9 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................17 Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
43 of 2021) Committee Stage...................................................................................................................................................10 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................17 Biological and Toxin Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
44 of 2021) Committee Stage...................................................................................................................................................10 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................18 Chemical Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
45 of 2021) Committee Stage...................................................................................................................................................10 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................18 Nuclear Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
46 of 2021) Committee Stage...................................................................................................................................................10 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................18 Precious and Semi-Precious Stones (Protection) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
47 of 2021) Committee Stage........................................................................................................................................................10 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................18 Real Estate Professionals (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
48 of 2021) Committee Stage...................................................................................................................................................11 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................19 Trust Property Control Bill, 2021 (No.
37 of 2021) Committee Stage...................................................................................................................................................11 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................19 Proceeds and Instruments of Crime (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
39 of 2021) Committee Stage........................................................................................................................................................12 Third Reading......................................................................................................................................................19 Societies Bill, 2021 (No.
38 of 2021) Committee Stage...................................................................................................................................................13 Virtual Assets Bill, 2021 (No.
35 of 2021) Committee Stage.............................................................................................................................................13-15 Third Reading.......................................................................................................................................................19 1 Hansard No 204 Tuesday 1st February, 2022 THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) P R A Y E R S * * * * SPEAKER’S REMARKS MR SPEAKER (MR MOATLHODI): Dumelang Batlotlegi Mapalamente, ke kopa gore le tshube cameras tsa lona.
Re tle re tseye palo re le bone gore le mmogo.

Order!

Order!

Once more, ke a le dumedisa Batlotlegi Mapalamente.

Let us start out business of today with Committee Stage of Government Bills.

THE OPPOSITION (MR LEADER OF SALESHANDO): On a point of order.

Mr Speaker, yesterday before the adjournment of the National Assembly, we reached an understanding as the House with the Speaker that, today only Bills that do not have substantial amendments or have no amendments at all will be considered today.
Bills with substantial amendments will not be considered today, to allow Members to study the amendments and that they will be discussed at the earliest on Wednesday.

Therefore, it cannot be correct Mr Speaker that we now have been given an Order Paper at variance with what we agreed yesterday.

I therefore, want to get your direction, if we are proceeding with the Order Paper as is, that you would want to go to Committee Stages for all the 16 Bills contrary to what we agreed?
If that is the case, what informed the change to the agreement?

If there are no reasons for the change, at this stage I would then propose that you allow for a variation or changes to the Order Paper, so that it is consistent with the agreement we reached yesterday evening.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… letsa, ke ne ke re ke go tlhatswetse ntlha e re ise re tle kwano.

Your question is very innocuous Honourable LOO.


Fa o ne o ka lebelela pampiri ya rona jaaka e ntse, the Bills as they are, the first 10, they have got no amendments.

Re dumalane jalo re le bogogi gore re tlaa di tlisa ka ga di na dipe dingalo.

Tse di latelang tse tharo, each one of them has either one or two innocuous amendments.
E o kareng e tlaa nna, ga se dingalo tsa sepe ka gore e tswa mo diatleng tse dintle tsa motho yo montle, ya Financial Intelligence, ke yone e re beileng kwa morago gore e tlaa tsena kamoso Honourable Leader of the Opposition (LOO).

Otherwise, ga go na sepe se se tshwenyang.

Ke dumela gore re ka simolola tiro ya moso ya gompieno.
REMOVAL OF ITEMS 14, 15 AND 16 FROM THE ORDER PAPER Motion THE OPPOSITION LEADER OF (MR SALESHANDO): Mr Speaker, go phoso gore e re gotwe go dumalanwe gore kgang e tlaa buiwa ka Laboraro, se bo se tsenngwa mo Order Paper ya Labobedi.

Ga se tsamaiso, go bo gotwe re se tsentse fela mme re se tsenyetsa Laboraro go le Labobedi, it is Tuesday today.
Fa e le gore maikaelelo ke gore e se ka ya tsena and Mr Speaker, ke ne ke tsaya gore le ya number 15 fa o ka e lebelela, e na le ditshetla di le mmalwa that amend it mo Order Paper ya letsatsi la gompieno.

Ga se 16 fela, number 15 e na le amendments, a re re di pedi, gongwe go ka twe yone e siame but number 14 di mmalwa.

Number 13 di pedi.

Re ka dumalana gore tota fela 14, 15, le 16 ka fa tumalanong ya rona ya maabane, di ne di sa tshwanela go tsena mo Order Paper ya gompieno.
Re ne re tshwanetse re tsenye number 1 up to 13.

I therefore Mr Speaker, move in accordance with Standing Order 30.2 that items 14, 15 and 16 be removed from today’s Order Paper.

I thank you.

…Silence… …Silence… MR SPEAKER: Sorry Honourable Members, I was still looking at the papers together with my advisors, so that we could respond to Honourable Leader of the Opposition’s (LOO) question with the honour that he deserves and the papers that they deserve.
Mme ga gona ape mathata ngwana wa ga nkgonne, fa o ne o ka lebelela pampiri ya gago… ke kile ka re ke a go leletsa kgantele, ke fitlhetse o santse o le kwa caucus.

Ka gore mongwame o kile a mpolelela gore e rile maphakela wa MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MS SERAME): O tlaa nthusa ka sengwe before re vote gakere?

MR SALESHANDO: Ee fa Speaker a go letlelela ke ka go thusa Pegzozo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le thusanya ka eng?

MR SALESHANDO: Ke tlaa mo utlwa, ke ready go mo thusa.
2 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022REMOVAL OF ITEMS 14, 15 AND 16 FROM THE ORDER PAPERMotion HONOURABLE MEMBER: A o tla re tima mananeo a Puso?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… MS SERAME: Ke kopa thuso.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Wena mathusagotlhe.

kana o HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le thusana fela le le babedi fela koo?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Peggy, ke eng o sa kope thuso mo go nna?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ngwana.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go ka kgona bo Mole Mole, e seng lona, le basimanyana.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: O tshegatshega fela Fox.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ntse o tshegatshega fela, o a itse gore o dirile dilo tse di ntseng … (Laughter!

)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: A ko o tlogele tsa Ledumadumane monna Sethomo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ke di khurumetse molekane.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Tsa Ledumadumane ke di feng, tsa go tlhatswa diaparo?
HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Batlotlegi, itseng gore le mo phefong, setšhaba se le utlwile gore gatwe le mo Palamenteng, le tsere dikgang, yo mongwe o bua se, yo mongwe o bua se.

Itseng gore this is live!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, re ne re botsa gore a ke lenaneo la Puso go tlhatswa diaparo?

A go molato?

MR SPEAKER: Fa re na le Bills nako le nako, tsotlhe re a di tsenya, whether di na le amendments or di sena, ke procedure ya rona.
Re a di golega mo lenaneong la rona.

Ga re ke re sia sepe kwa ntle.

Sa bobedi, se ke se tlhalositseng, Bill ya ntlha go ema ka ya lesome, ga gona amendments mo teng bagaetsho.

Ga gona sepe se se ka ntshang Batlotlegi Mapalamente mokola.

Bill ya 13 go ya go ema ka ya 15, nngwe le nngwe ya tsone e na le amendment e le nngwefela go ya kwa go tse pedi tse di very innocuous.
Bill ya bofelofelo ke yone e re boneng fa re ntse re utlwa jaaka le ne le buisana batlotlegi, ke yone e re boneng go tshwanela gore e re bo kamoso Batlotlegi Mapalamente ba bo ba ka kgona go nna le nako e ntsi go ka e lebelela.

Jaanong ke gore ke bona ke tsena fa gare ga tsietsego ya dilo tse pedi tse fa Motlotlegi Moeteledipele wa Kganetso a re jaanong re dire lenaneo sešha re ntshe tse dingwe.

Go a nketefalela.
Go a nketefalela.

Legale ka o beile mo Ntlong gore ke yone e di ntshe, I am going to put a question as your good self want gore Batlotlegi Mapalamente ke bone ba dumalane le wena kana ba ganetsane le wena.

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Procedure.

Kana motho fa a tswa ka mogopolo a kopa gore go ntshiwe sengwe mo Order Paper, we must hear the opposing views gore a go na le ba ba ganelang kana ga go na ba ba ganelang.
Re ne re batla go latlhela mo kgannyeng e a e beileng pele, ga ke itse gore a re tlaabo re le mo tsamaisong.

Legale ba tlaa go gakolola ka koo.

MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, o mo tsamaisong Motlotlegi Moeteledipele wa Ntlo e. Tota fela ka tsamaiso, ke ka bo ke le reile ka re kana kgang ke eo.

Ka o setse o kaile gore… MR TSOGWANE: I want to respond Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Please, do Your Honour.


HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR TSOGWANE): Ke lebogela kgakololo eo le bogakolodi jo bo tlhamaletseng jo o bo tsereng mo go ba o dirang le bone.

Tota go tlaabo go se maleba e bile go sa supe gore re tlhoafetse mo Ntlong e fa e re re buisane Bills di dule kwa stage sa Second Reading di tshwanetse go ya kwa Committee Stage, e bo e le gore jaanong re mekamekana le tsamaiso re ntsha Ntlo mo tsamaisong.

Bills fa di tswa mo stage se sengwe di ya straight to the next stage.
Ke dumalana le wena gore mo go e nngwe e o boneng le wena ka fa tebong ya lona, la bona gore e neele batlotlegi nako ka e na le diphetogo tse dintsinyana tse di tshwanetseng go dirwa, ke bona le dirile tiro e ntle thata.

Jaanong fa re ka tla mo go reng re tlaa nna re tla go dira schedule sa Palamente re tsweletse ka Palamente, golo mo go tlaa re ketefaletsa tiro.

Go tlaa re ntsha mo tseleng go re ketefaletsa tiro.
Schedule fa se dule jaaka 3 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022REMOVAL OF ITEMS 14, 15 AND 16 FROM THE ORDER PAPERMotion se dule jaana, se dule e bile se siame ka gore ke se re neng ra se dumalana.

Ga go a twe Bills tsotlhe di tlaabo di sena amendments, jaaka le boletse gore re lebile tse e leng dipaakanyo ga di nke di nna kalokalo.

Le dirile fela ka tlhamalalo.

Ga ke bone lenaneo la letsatsi leno e le le e leng gore le ka re tshwenya ra a ja nako e nngwe gape re bua ka lenaneo.
Ke gore jaanong re dira lenaneo mo Palamenteng le le tshwanetseng gore le dirwe ke Palamente le botsamaisi jwa Palamente, re tla re batla go le dira gape mo Palamenteng.

Ga ke bone gore re tlaabo re siame Mr Speaker.

Ke ganana le Tshutiso eo ya ga Leader of the Opposition (LOO).

MR SPEAKER: Ntlha ya botlhokwa e ke neng ke lebetse go e bua Motlotlegi Mothusa Tautona le Batlotlegi Mapalamente, ke e rraarona a e buang, ya nako.
These Bills are timed, maikaelelo ke gore ka 1:00 p.m. re bo re feditse re sutela Palamente ya 2 o’clock.

Re ja nako e nngwe gape ka go leka go dira lenaneo sesha.

MR LEUWE: Point of clarification.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo, good morning sir.

Ke a tsietsega jaanong ka tlhaloso ya gago Mr Speaker.

Ke utlwa tlhaloso ya gago gore tota ka tsamaiso jaaka re ne re setse re dumalane gore re ya go buisanya eng ka Laboraro, se ne se sa tshwanela go tsena mo Order Paper.
Jaanong tlhaloso ya gago wa re ka ga le dire Bills tse, re di dira jalo re di tsenya tsotlhe.

Jaanong go tlhoka go tlhaloganya ga ga Leuwe ke gore, is it procedural mo e leng gore le fa re ne re dumalane se, fela ka gore re tlhola re dira jalo, re ya go dira jalo, kgotsa se se tshwanetseng gore se diragale ke eng?

Re tshwanetse to set precedent e e leng gore e tlaa re le kamoso re boe re dire gape re itse gore re ne re beile fa godimo ga eng.

I am a little bit confused.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: indeed very procedural Honourable Leuwe, ka gore fa re ne re sa di tsenya fa, le ne le tlaa itse jang gore go na le eng ga go na eng?

is It MR SALESHANDO: Point of clarification.

Mr Speaker, I think I just want to raise two points.

The issue raised by Honourable Leuwe is correct, fa go dumalanwe gore kgang e tsena ka laboraro, ga go na se se go pateletsang go e tsenya mo Order Paper ya Labobedi; that is fact.

A re se ka ra leka go fetola melao.


Fa re e tsentse mo Order Paper ya gompieno jaaka re e tsentse, Honourable Speaker, fa re ka fetsa sengwe le sengwe Number 1 up to 15 before 1 today, ka 2 Order Paper ya re re bo re tsena mo go Financial Intelligence Bill e re rileng ke ya kamoso.

Re tlaabo re tswelela, ga re ka ke ra ema.

Kgang e e buiwang ke Vice President (VP) a re ga re ka 4 ke ra fetola fa gare, heela!

O lebala ka bonako, ke ene a tshelang a sutisa go fetola Order Paper Palamente e tsene.
Kooteng jaanong mo go ene ke maemo a gagwe, o tshwanetse a dire a le nosi, fa ba bangwe ba dira, ba a senya.

Ga se maemo a gago o le nosi, Standing Order seo sa re even a Private Member can change.

Se ke neng ke se kopa ke gore let us be honourable, re letse re nnile le tumalano gore tse dingwe ga di na go tsena gompieno, fa di ntshitswe di tlaa tsena kamoso.

Ga go na mo gotweng ka gore e emetse committee, e patelesega go tsena mo Order Paper ya gompieno gore e ye go buisanngwa kamoso.
That is incorrect; that is a wrong way of interpreting the Standing Orders.

I thank you.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification LOO.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke tsholeditse lebogo Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Emang pele bagaetsho, emang pele Batlotlegi... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke tsholeditse lebogo Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Ke go utlwile Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Sefhare-Ramokgonami.

DR GOBOTSWANG: A lebogo o a le bona?


MR SPEAKER: Bagaetsho, kana go mo go lona, ke fa sekai; fa re sena go buisanya Melao-kakanyetso e, go mo go lona le le Batlotlegi Mapalamente.

E kare fa re tsena mo Bill No.

12 la bo le sutisa gore jaanong re dirile go ema fa, tse dingwe re tlaa di dira kamoso, and is much neater that way for Hansard.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, ke ne ke kopile clarification mo go LOO.

GOBOTSWANG DR (SEFHARE- RAMOKGONAMI): Tanki Mr Speaker.
Ke batla go inaakanya le mafoko a a builweng ke Honourable Leuwe, le a a buiwang ke LOO, gore tota kana tumalano e dirilwe maabane gore Melao-kakanyetso e e nang le dipaakanyo tse di ntsi, e tlaa tsena ka Laboraro.

Jaanong ga re ka ke ra tla fa go bolelela setšhaba gore fa kgang e le mo Order Paper gompieno, ga go reye sepe fela.
Go raya sengwe ka gore jaaka LOO a bua, fa re ka fetsa gompieno jaana ka nako, go raya gore jaanong Order Paper e tlaabo e re raya e re re a tswelela, jaanong Deputy Speaker, wena wa re nnyaa, e tlaa re re tsena gone foo, re tlaa bua gore re le Palamente ra re go dirwe jang, mme re a itse gore ka fa tsamaisong ya Palamente yone e, ka Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022REMOVAL OF ITEMS 14, 15 AND 16 FROM THE ORDER PAPERMotion nako yone eo fa re sena go nna re fetsa melao e mekhutshwanyane e e nang le dipaakanyo tse dikhutshwanyane, fela fa e fela, go bo gotwe jaanong re bueng gore a re a tswelela kana re a ema.
Fa His Honour the Vice President a emelela gone fa a bua gore re a tswelela, Palamente e tlaabo e tswelela, mme jaanong re tlaabo re dule mo tumalanong e re neng re e dirile maabane.

Kana kgang e gone foo.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

Ke kopa go botsa tlhe rra.

MR SPEAKER: Let us have order please.

I am now going to put a question, ke tlhalositse procedure ya rona ka fa e ntseng ka teng which some of you are not happy with.
Honourable Saleshando has proposed a question, I am now going to put it to the House so that the House makes the decision gore re dumalane nae kana re ganane nae.

Now, we are going to vote... MR TSOGWANE: Point of procedure.

Mr Speaker, before we vote, we must know what we are voting for because go na le confusion fa.

Kana LOO has moved a Motion.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke wena fela o leng confused, ga go na yo o confused.

MR SALESHANDO: Yes, we cannot stop just for one person.
MR TSOGWANE: Wena you are forever confused, ga o ka ke wa tlhoka go sa lemoga gore go na le confusion.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ga go na yo o tsietsegileng your Honour... MR TSOGWANE: Motion has been moved, re tshwanetse go itse gore re tlhophela Motion o o sutisitsweng, e seng mo Batlotlegi ba tlang ka gone.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa le reetse Honourable Peggy Serame bagaetsho, I think she has got solution to this issue.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ee kana ke ene mong wa Bill, re tshwanetse gore re... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re mo ditlhophong, re a tlhopha.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Boko, kana kwa o leng teng go kgakala waitse, ga re batle go... MR SPEAKER: Ema pele Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Boteti Botlhaba, ke a go utlwa.
Nnyaa, kgang e motlhofo bagaetsho, ba le sa utlweng sentle, kgang ke gore ba ba reng re dirise lenaneo jaaka re le dirile ba re ‘ee’, ba ba reng re dire jaaka Rraetsho Saleshando a bua... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Jaaka re dumalane.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ba ba reng re tlhophe jaaka re dumalane maabane, ke bafe?

MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, iketle pele Dithapelo, ga go ise go buiwe jalo.
Kgang ke gore ba ba dumalanang le Rre Saleshando ba re “ee” ba ba sa dumalaneng nae ba re “nnyaa.” E tlhamaletse fela jalo.

So I am going to put the question again, ba ba dumalanang le Rre Saleshando ba re, “ee”, ba ba sa dumalaneng le ene ba re, “nnyaa.” Let us have order please.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Procedure Mr Chairperson.

MR SPEAKER: Ke ne ke tlhalosa selo se gore re a tlhopha.
CLERK: 5 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022REMOVAL OF ITEMS 14, 15 AND 16 FROM THE ORDER PAPERMotion MEMBER’S NAME His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko Honourable Brooks Honourable Billy Honourable Dr Dikoloti Honourable Dr Dow Honourable Gare Honourable Dr Gobotswang Honourable Greeff Honourable Hikuama Honourable Kablay Honourable Kapinga Honourable Kekgonegile Honourable Keorapetse Honourable Kereng Honourable Kgafela Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape Honourable Lesedi Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso Honourable Dr Letsholathebe Honourable Letsholo Honourable Leuwe Honourable Lucas Honourable Majaga Honourable Makwinja Honourable Manake Honourable Mangwegape-Healy Honourable Mathoothe Honourable Dr Matsheka Honourable Mmolotsi Honourable Mmusi Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi Honourable Modukanele Honourable Mokgethi Honourable Molale Honourable Molao 6 AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022REMOVAL OF ITEMS 14, 15 AND 16 FROM THE ORDER PAPERMotion Honourable Molebatsi Honourable Monnakgotla Honourable Morwaeng Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane Honourable Motsamai Honourable Mthimkhulu Honourable Mzwinila Honourable Nkawana Honourable Pule Honourable Rakgare Honourable Ramogapi Honourable Reatile Honourable Regoeng Honourable Saleshando Honourable Segokgo Honourable Serame Honourable Shamukuni Honourable Thiite Honourable Dr Tshabang Honourable Tshere His Honour Tsogwane √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ MR SPEAKER: Results of your voting; Absent - 16, the Ayes - 13, the Noes - 34.
Therefore, the Noes have it.

…Silence… Question put and negated.

ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) MOVABLE PROPERTY (SECURITY INTERESTS) BILL, 2021 (NO.

49 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON (MR MOATLHODI): Order!

Please, note that the Movable Property (Security Interests) Bill, 2021 (No.

49 of 2021) has 90 Clauses.

No amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call all the Clauses in groups.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Order!

Order!


Ke kopa gore le lona batlotlegi le arabe le tsentse botshelo e bile ka pela, we have lost 45 minutes already and that is not acceptable.

Clauses 1-10 agreed to.

Clauses 11-20 agreed to.

Clauses 21-30 agreed to.

Clauses 31-40 agreed to.

Clauses 41-50 agreed to.

7 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022MOVABLE PROPERTY (SECURITY INTERESTS) BILL, 2021 (NO.

49 OF 2021) Committee Stage Clauses 51-60 agreed to.

Clauses 61-70 agreed to.


MR CHAIRPERSON: Once more, ke a le kopa batlotlegi, tsenyang botshelo e bile le dire ka pela, ga re na nako.

Clauses 71-80 agreed to.

Clauses 81-90 agreed to.

COMPANIES (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

36 OF 2021) HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... MR CHAIRPERSON: Let us have order please, re dira kgang e e masisi golo fa, a go didimalwe.

Honourable Members, please note that the Companies (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

36 of 2021) has 25 Clauses.

No amendments have been noticed.


I shall therefore, call the Clauses in groups.

Clauses 1-10 agreed to.

Clauses 11-20 agreed to.

Clauses 21-25 agreed to.

COUNTER TERRORISM (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

40 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Counter Terrorism (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

40 of 2021) has 17 Clauses.

No amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses in groups.


HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... MR CHAIRPERSON: May we have order please, re dira kgang e e masisi, re sa bitse leina la ga rraarona.

Order!

Clauses 1-10 agreed to.

Clauses 11-17 agreed to.

CRIMINAL PROCEDURE AND EVIDENCE (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

41 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Criminal Procedure and Evidence (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

41 of 2021) has three Clauses.

No amendments have been noticed.


I shall therefore, call the Clauses in groups.

Clauses 1-3 agreed to.

EXTRADITION (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

42 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, let us note that the Extradition (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

42 of 2021) has two Clauses.

No amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses all at once.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Chairperson.

Procedure Mr MR CHAIRPERSON: Jeso yo o bonolo, what is your procedure Honourable Tshere?
MR TSHERE: Mr Chairperson, ga ke batle go go dubela motshelo, mme maabane re ne re dumalane gore some of the amendments can be moved on the floor, tse di nnyennyane.

I therefore, have a minor amendment on this particular Bill, Mr Chairperson MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Tshere, you are within your right le fa o ntubela motshelo.

Please go ahead.

MR TSHERE: Thank you very much Mr Chairperson.

No, my minor amendment ke ya maloba re bua ka yone ya seven days.
Ke tlhalogantse Tona a tlhalosa gore nako e, ke e e tsewang for dipampiri to be filed by lekgotla, tse di tlhomamisang gore motho yo o bonweng molato kwa ntle ga lefatshe la Botswana a simolole to be processed gore a ntshetswe kwa lefatsheng le le mmatlang.

Jaanong re ne re ngongorega thata ka seven days re re nako eo e nnyennyane bogolo jang fa re bua ka Batswana.

Gongwe re ne re ka se ke re tsenye lefoko ‘expeditiously’ jaaka re dirile mo Bill e e fa morago eo.
Ke akanya gore re ne re dumalane le Tona, le mo pampiring ya dikgang ya DailyNews captured him jalo.

I so move Mr Chairperson.

Thank you.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Member for Mahalapye Bophirima, ga o a ntlhalosetsa nna le Ntlo e gore you move mo Clause mang?

We have two Clauses.

MR TSHERE: Sorry Mr Chairperson.

This is Clause 2, that amends Section 9.


If I can read it Mr Chairperson, “the transmission of a warrant referred to in Subsection 3 shall be done within seven days of the receipt of the requisition for the surrender of a fugitive criminal.” So, I am talking to the number seven.

Gongwe... MR CHAIRPERSON: Ema pele Honourable Tshere.

We do not seem to be together.

Order!

Order!

Ke go tshwere nna mosimane wa Tonota.

8 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022EXTRADITION (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
42 OF 2021) Committee Stage Clause 1 agreed to.

jaanong o ka ntsha MR CHAIRPERSON: Ee, ngongorego ya gago ka Clause 2 Motlotlegi Tshere.

Go tswa fa ke tlaa tla ke neela Batlotlegi Mapalamente.

Clause 2 MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Thank you Mr Chair.

Ke leboga thata go bo o ntetleletse.

Kgang e ke neng ke bua ka yone ke ya Clause 2, ya maloba ke re ga go a tshwanela go lebega mo melaong ya rona e kare re itlhaganeledisa go isa Batswana kwa ntle fa ba latofadiwa ka melato.
Mme to satisfy melao e ya Financial Action Task Force (FATF), re se ka ra dirisa gore on Clause 2, if I can quote Mr Chairperson on Section 2, it says, “Section 9 of the Extradition Act is amended by inserting immediately after the Subsection 3 the following new subsection.
A transmission of the warrant referred to in Subsection 3 shall be done within seven days of the receipt of the requisition for the surrender of a fugitive criminal.” Jaanong mo go yone e, go buiwa ka Motswana a isiwa kwa mafatsheng a mangwe fa a latofadiwa ka borukutlhi koo.

Ke kopa e se ka ya re seven days, ka go lebega o kare e siantsha thata thulaganyo ya gore re ntshe Motswana mo lefatsheng.
Re e tlogele jaaka molao o o fetileng, o o neng o dirisa lefoko ‘expeditiously.’ Therefore, I move gore the amendment should read, I quote from four, “the transmission of warrant referred to in Subsection 3 shall be done expeditiously upon receipt of the requisition for the surrender of a fugitive criminal.” I so move Mr Chair.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR CHAIRPERSON: Order!

Bagaetsho, let us have order!

We are on a sensitive matter, please!

Honourable Tshere, o tshwanetse wa bala o iketlile.
I am now going to call upon the Learned Parliamentary Counsel (LPC) to tell you what this House expects of you.

LEARNED PARLIAMENTARY COUNSEL (MS KOKORO): Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Honourable Member, you are substituting for the words within seven days, the word ‘expeditiously.’ So, what you must be doing because we do not have time to draft, you read the word ‘expeditiously’ into where there is within seven days.
It is important for you to read it out as it must be written because the record is capturing it and that is how we will eventually publish the law.

You should read the section from where it begins, your amendment is that, Section 9 of the Extradition Act is amended by inserting maybe after Subsection 3 the following new subsection and then you read Subsection 4 with the word ‘expeditiously’ appearing where within seven days is and then the record will get you right.

Thank you.
Thank you.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you LPC.

Honourable Member, please do so.

MR TSHERE: Thank you Honourable Chair.

I think I just did, but let me do it again.

I am proposing an amendment on Clause 2 which reads, and I quote Mr Chair, “Section 9 of the Extradition Act is amended by inserting immediately after Subsection 3 the following new subsection.” So, now I quote where I have amended.
Section 4 Subsection 4, “the transmission of a warrant referred to in Subsection 3 shall be done expeditiously upon receipt of the requisition for the surrender of a fugitive criminal.” I so move Mr Chairperson.

Thank you very much.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, kgang ke eo.

I will just call one or two and then I call upon the Honourable Minister.

Kgang ke eo Batlotlegi Mapalamente.


LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Mr Chair, the Minister must be at liberty to speak first because ke ene mong wa Bill.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Ke mmiditse sir.

MR TSOGWANE: O ne a re o a araba, jaanong a bo a utlwa o re o tlaa bitsa ba babedi pele before o mmitsa.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Gakere ke ne ke raya gore ke le fe tlotla le lona.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mr Chair, tota ga re dumalane.
Re dumalana gore jaaka re e beile seven days, seven days re tshwanetse re bone gore sengwe le sengwe se a diragala.

So, fa re e baya expeditiously, tota re e butse fela ga re beye nako e e beilweng.

Re kopa re tlogele Clause e e ntse fela jaana.

Ga re dumele gore go senyega sepe for transmission.

All what we are saying ra re, warrant will be transmitted.

Ga re a re Motswana o tlaabo a ntshiwa kana motswakwa o tlaabo a tlisiwa mono.

Ra re, warrant e isiwe within seven days.


Processes tsa go ntsha le go tlisa di tlaa tsaya nako ya tsone ka gore ke makgotlatshekelo.

Ke kopa jalo Mr Chair.

I thank you.

9 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022EXTRADITION (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

42 OF 2021) Committee Stage MR CHAIRPERSON: Order!

Order!

Le tle le tlhaloganye sentle Batlotlegi Mapalamente, the question that I am going to put ke tlaabo ke re, the question is that the amendment be agreed to.
Ke reela gore ba ba dumalanang le Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Mahalapye Bophirima ba re, “aye” and then on the… MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Nuclear Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

46 of 2021) has three Clauses and no amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses at once.

…Silence… HONOURABLE MEMBER: O nyeletse Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Order!

Nnyaa, ke teng nna mosimane wa Tonota.

Order!

Honourable Members.

Amendment negated.


Clause 2 agreed to.

MUTUAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

43 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Please note that the Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

43 of 2021) has three Clauses.

No amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses all at once.

Clauses 1-3 agreed to.

BIOLOGICAL AND TOXIN WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
44 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Biological and Toxin Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

44 of 2021) has three Clauses.

No amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call all the Clauses at once.

Clauses 1-3 agreed to.

CHEMICAL WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

45 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Chemical Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

45 of 2021) has three Clauses.


No amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call all the Clauses at once.

Clauses 1-3 agreed to.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

46 OF 2021) Clauses 1-3 agreed to.

PRECIOUS AND SEMI-PRECIOUS STONES (PROTECTION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

47 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Precious and Semi-Precious Stones (Protection) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
47 of 2021) has six Clauses and no amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses all at once.

MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): On a point of procedure.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

I have noticed an amendment with the Clerk and if you allow me, I may proceed, it is on Clause 3 (2) (a)… MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, I am very much alive to your amendment at Clause 3.

I am therefore, going to call upon the Clauses that are innocuous.
Clauses 1-2 agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, please talk to your Clause.

Clause 3 MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): Clause 3 (2) (a) appearing on B.515 is amended by substituting for sub-paragraph number 7 the following new sub-section.
At number 7, this is how it reads, it has been with the help of drafters; “has, within a period of five years immediately preceding the date of its application for a licence being convicted in Botswana of a criminal offence, here is the insertion, “relating to illicit possession or dealing in precious stones and/or semi-precious stones, or outside Botswana of an offence which if committed in Botswana would have been a criminal offence relating to illicit possession or dealing in precious stones, and/or semi-precious stones.” Then it continues in the same manner as before.
That was the insertion Mr Chairperson, I so submit.

10 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022PRECIOUS AND SEMI-PRECIOUS STONES (PROTECTION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

47 OF 2021) Committee Stage Amendment agreed to.

Clause 3 as amended agreed to.

Clauses 4-6 agreed to.

REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

48 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Real Estate Professionals (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

48 of 2021) has 2 Clauses.


An amendment has been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses consecutively.

Clause 1 agreed to.

Clause 2 has the same meaning assigned to under Proceeds and Instruments of Crime Act.” I so move Honourable Speaker.

Amendment agreed to.

Clause 2 as amended agreed to.

TRUST PROPERTY CONTROL BILL, 2021 (NO.

37 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Trust Property Control Bill, 2021 (No.

37 of 2021) has 33 Clauses.


Some amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses consecutively.

There is an amendment on the long title.

Amendment on the Long Title MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): Thank you Honourable Chairperson.

The proposal wishes to amend Clause 2 appearing at page B.520, by - MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr Speaker, I will speak to both amendments.
The Bill is amended by substituting for the - (a) substituting for paragraphs 6 (a) and (b) appearing therein, the following paragraphs - (a) long title, appearing at page B.457, the following new title - “(a) not to have been convicted of a serious offence in Botswana; “An Act to regulate the control of trusts; and to provide for matters connected therewith.”; and (a) not to have been convicted outside Botswana of a serious offence which you have committed in Botswana will have been a serious offence… MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, please read as it appears on the Order Paper, for the record my Honourable Minister.
MR MZWINILA: There is a mistake on the Order Paper Honourable Speaker, I am correcting the mistake on the Order Paper.

Clause 2 appearing at page B.520, by - (b) side note at Clause 1, appearing at page B458, the following new side note - “short title”.

Justification for this is to make the long title of the Act much clearer Mr Chairperson and the side note is to also make it clearer by removing the words “and commencement”.

I thank you Mr Chairperson and I so move.


MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, you must talk to the long title alone.

(a) substituting for paragraphs 6 (a) and (b) appearing therein, the following paragraphs - MR MMUSI: Okay, Mr Chairperson.
(a) not to have been convicted of a serious offence in Botswana; (b) not to have been convicted outside Botswana of a serious offence, which, if committed in Botswana would have been a serious offence; and (b) inserting immediately after Subclause (6) the following new Subclause – Cap.

08:03 MR CHAIRPERSON: Then I am going to call upon the House gore either ba go kgwe dikgaba.

Fa ba sa go kgwe dikgaba, ke tlaabo ke e move so that you adopt it, and then we go to the next one.
MR MMUSI: Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Mr Chairperson, Bill is amended by substituting for the - (a) long title, appearing at page B.457, the following “(7) For purposes of Subsection (6), “serious offence” new long title - 11 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022TRUST PROPERTY CONTROL BILL, 2021 (NO.

37 OF 2021) Committee Stage “An Act to regulate the control of trusts; and to provide for matters connected therewith.” Justification for this is to make the title much clearer Mr Chairperson.
I thank you and I so move.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much Honourable Minister.

O e tshwere sentle jaanong Tshwene.

Fa le sa kgwe Motlotlegi Tona dikgaba ke a feta nna Rraagwe Nkamo.

Amendment agreed to.

Long title as amended agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: There is an amendment at Clause 1.

Honourable Minister responsible for Defence, Justice and Security, please talk to your amendment.

Clause 1 MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr Chairperson.
Mr Chairperson, the Bill is amended by substituting for the - (b) side note at Clause 1, appearing at page B.458, the following new side note - “short title.” Mr Chairperson, the justification for this amendment is to make it clearer by removing the words “and commencement.” I thank you Mr Chairperson and I so move.

MR CHAIRPERSON: O e tshwere sentle Tshwene.

MR MMUSI: Thank you rotwe.

MR CHAIRPERSON: O e tshwere sentle rotwe.

The question is that the amendment be agreed to.


…Silence… MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, I am going to call upon the Learned Parliamentary Counsel (LPC) to talk to you on matters pertaining to legal connotations.

Honourable LPC.

shall come into effect upon a notice published in the Gazette, the way the others are done.

Is it your intention that this Act must come into effect immediately upon being published as an Act?

MR MMUSI: Yes.
MR MMUSI: Yes.

LEARNED PARLIAMENTARY COUNSEL: Okay, if that is the case, then the amendment makes sense.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gone mme ke eng di sa tshwane?

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Madam Learned Parliamentary Counsel, tanki ngwana wa me.

Amendment agreed to.

Clause 1 as amended agreed to.

Clauses 2-10 agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: I want to appeal to you once more Honourable Batlotlegi, please tsenyang botshelo and do it quickly.

Clauses 11-20 agreed to.

Clauses 21-30 agreed to.


Clauses 31-33 agreed to.

PROCEEDS AND INSTRUMENTS OF CRIME (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

39 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Proceeds and Instruments of Crime (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

39 of 2021) has five Clauses.

An amendment has been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses consecutively.

Clauses 1-4 agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: There is an amendment at Clause 5.

Honourable Minister, please talk to your Bill.


Clause 5 LEARNED COUNSEL: PARLIAMENTARY Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Honourable Minister, regarding your amendment, the question is whether you are intending that upon publication of this Act, it must become law, because the commencement should enable you to establish a Statutory Notice to put the Act on notice.
So, usually you would put short title and commencement, and then provide in the Clause that it MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Chairperson.
Mr Chairperson, the Bill is amended at Clause 5 appearing at page B.487 by substituting for Section 46A (1), the following new subsection - “(1) Any person other than a specified party or accountable institution, having possession of - 12 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022PROCEEDS AND INSTRUMENTS OF CRIME (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
39 OF 2021) Committee Stage (a) property or economic resources that are wholly or jointly owned, held or controlled directly or indirectly, by a nationally listed person, entity or structured group or by a designated person or entity, including property or economic resources that cannot be tied to a particular act of terrorism, plot or threat; (b) property or economic resources that are wholly or jointly owned or held by a person or an entity - (i) acting on behalf of, or at the direction of, a nationally listed person, entity or structured group, or (ii) controlled by designated person or entity; or (c) property or economic resources derived from or generated by property or economic resources referred to in paragraphs (a) or (b), shall, without delay, give control and possession thereof to the Receiver.” Mr Chairperson, the justification of the new Clause 46 (a) (i) has the effect of adding to the list of persons that may have possession of property or economic resources that are a subject of the Act.
The Clause introduces new terms, “entity and structured group” and removes “government agency or department” as a holder from Subsection 1.

The Government does not hold any property under this Act.

I thank you Mr Chairperson, and I so move.

we still want to notice some other amendments, and such, amendments are quite extensive.

I thank you Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister responsible for Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs ke dumalana le wena motlotlegi.

Ga go na mathata.
Ga go na mathata.

Honourable Members, for records purposes, I need to put a question that the Societies Bill, 2021 (No.

38 of 2021) be deferred to tomorrow.

Bill - Deferred.

…Silence… MR CHAIRPERSON: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Murmurs)… MR CHAIRPERSON: May we have Order please!

Ke tlaa go leleka nna mosimane wa Tonota.

VIRTUAL ASSETS BILL, 2021 (NO.

35 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Please note that the Virtual Assets Bill, 2021 (No.

35 of 2021) has 36 Clauses.


Some amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses consecutively.

Amendment agreed to.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: ...(Murmurs)...

Clause 5 as amended agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Ke mang yo o buang?

SOCIETIES BILL, 2021 (NO.

38 OF 2021) MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that the Societies Bill, 2021 (No.

38 of 2021) has 32 Clauses.

Some amendments have been noticed.

I shall therefore, call the Clauses consecutively.

Clause 1 agreed to.
Clause 1 agreed to.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke Molebatsi, o lebala mo go maswe.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Ke Molebatsi fela wa gale.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Kana jaanong… and ke ene mokaulengwe, ke tlaa mo direla mathata.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, there is a proposed amendment at Clause 2.

Honourable Minister, please talk to your amendment.

Clause 2 MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MOKGETHI): Thank you Chairperson.
On a point of procedure Mr Chairperson, if you can allow me to request that the Committee Stage of the Societies Bill, 2021 (No.

38 of 2021) be deferred to tomorrow.

The reason being that Clause 1 agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, there is an amendment at Clause 2.

Honourable Minister responsible for Finance and Economic Development, my loving daughter, please talk to your amendment.

Clause 2 (a) (i) MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MS SERAME): Thank you Mr Chairperson.
Mr Chairperson, ke tlhalose pele ga ke 13 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022VIRTUAL ASSETS BILL, 2021 (NO.

35 OF 2021)Committee Stage tsena mo amendments batlotlegi gore briefly what we are doing here, amendments tse are minor.

We were cleaning up the Bill to make sure gore go clearer, go se ka ga nna le ketsaetsego mo go sepe.

That is why amendments tsa teng e le tse di nnyennyane jalo.

So Mr Chairperson; 1.


The Bill is amended at clause 2 - (a) in the definition of - (i) “inspector” appearing at page B.428, by inserting immediately after the words “Section 6,” the words “and includes an investigator.” Jaaka ke tlhalositse Mr Chairperson, amendment e raya fela gore go nne clear.

Batho ba se ka ba etsaetsega when dealing with an investigator, ba re he or she is not covered by law.

I submit Mr Chairperson.

Amendment agreed to.


Clause 2 (a) (ii) MS SERAME: Mr Chairperson, the Bill is amended at Clause 2 - (a) In the definition of - (ii) “offer” appearing at page B.

428, by inserting immediately after the word “advertisement,” the word “prospectus.” Ke tlhalosa ka bokhutshwane, re tsentse the word “prospectus” because go ne go na le bo white paper, mo e leng gore motho yo mongwe e ka nna ya re a bala, a bo a sa itse gore go raya eng.
Go ne go le botlhokwa gore re tsenye prospectus for clarity.

I submit Mr Chairperson on this one.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Tanki Morolong.

Ka Serolong, ga le dire sepe se se gakgamatsang.


(iii) “organiser” appearing at page B.429, by inserting immediately after the words “through an issuer,” the words “on behalf of a customer.” Ka bokhutshwane Mr Chairperson, e le yone e ne e le go tlhalosa fela gore e se ka ya re fa motho o setse molao o le ka fa, motho a bo a re nnyaa, ke ne ke dira on behalf of a customer, e bo e le gore the law did not cover it.

It was just go e tlhatswa gore e utlwale go feta foo.

I submit Mr Chairperson.


MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, o itse gore ke batla o dira jang?

MS SERAME: Ke di dire tsotlhe?

MR CHAIRPERSON: Aha!

You read your father’s mind, please go ahead ngwanaka.

Clause 2 (b) MS SERAME: Thank you Mr Chairperson.

The next one is (b) Mr Chairperson.


(b) by inserting immediately after the definition of “virtual token exchange” appearing at page B.430, the following new sub Clause - “(2) This Act is declared to be a financial services law for purposes of the Non-Bank Financial Institutions Regulatory (NBFIRA) Act.” Ka bokhutshwane Mr Chairperson, re tsenya Clause e ntšha fa gore e se ka ya re fa go setse go na le kgang, go bo gotwe the NBFIRA Act e ne e sa akaretse tsa Virtual Token mo molaong wa bone.
We are amending go e tsenya gore le yone e akaradiwe ke molao Mr Chairperson, that is at (b).

That concludes the amendments at Clause 2, which I was proposing.

Amendments agreed to.

Clause 2 as amendment agreed to.

Clauses 3-13 agreed to.

Amendment agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, you have another amendment, please talk to it.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, there is an amendment at Clause 14.

Please talk to the amendment Honourable Minister.


Clause 2 (a) (iii) Clause 14 MS SERAME: Thank you Mr Chairperson, ke na le iii le (b).

(a) In the definition of - MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MS SERAME): Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Mr Chairperson, the Bill is amended at Clause 14 (1) by substituting for the words “30 days” appearing at page B.436, the words “21 days.” 14 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022VIRTUAL ASSETS BILL, 2021 (NO.
35 OF 2021)Committee Stage Ka bokhutshwane Mr Chairperson, malatsi ao ke a a beilweng gore an individual will be noticing intention to suspend or revoke a licence.

Jaanong re ne re bona gore fa e le gore go na le kgang e e leng teng, motho a fiwa 30 days to notice, o montsi.

We also got comments from different stakeholders gore re e sekaseke, ke sone se le bonang re fokotsa malatsi from 30 to 21 days.

I submit Mr Chairperson.

COUNTER TERRORISM (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.


40 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

CRIMINAL PROCEDURE AND EVIDENCE (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

41 OF 2021) Amendment agreed to.

Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Clause 14 as amended agreed to.

Third Reading - Later Today.

Clauses 15-30 agreed to.

Clauses 31-36 agreed to.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Order!

Order!


Honourable Members, jaanong kana tiro e ke ya ga malome, the substantive Speaker of this House ke malome.

Jaanong ke batla go dira tiro ke mo siela gore kamoso a tle a kgone go nkabela.

Fa nne ngwana wa ga nkgonne a se ka a ntiya phakela, ke ka bo ke feditse.

Honourable Members, I am now going to call upon the Honourable Leader of the House... MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, e tswelele fela, ba tlogele.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Ema pele Vice President (VP).


HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR CHAIRPERSON: A fa bakaulengwe re ye go kopa dijo tsa motshegare, re tlaa tla re kopana ka 2 o’clock, malome ba tlaabo ba le teng.

A re tsamayeng bakaulengwe.

Bon Appétit.

re emeng gone PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 12:57 P.M. FOR APPROXIMATELY 1 HOUR PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 2:00 P.M. “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Good afternoon.
As I understand it, we are now dealing with reporting of the Bills from Committee, in exception of the Bill regarding societies.

Can we start with Movable Property (Security Interests) Bill, 2021 (No.

49 of 2021).

MOVABLE PROPERTY (SECURITY INTERESTS) BILL 2021, (NO.

49 OF 2021) EXTRADITION (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

42 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

MUTUAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
43 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

BIOLOGICAL AND TOXIN WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

44 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

CHEMICAL WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

45 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
46 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

PRECIOUS AND SEMI-PRECIOUS STONES (PROTECTION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

47 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Bill reported from Committee with amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

Third Reading - Later Today.

15 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022VIRTUAL ASSETS BILL, 2021 (NO.

35 OF 2021)Committee Stage REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
48 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee with amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

TRUST PROPERTY CONTROL BILL, 2021 (NO.

37 OF 2021) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, now we got this Standing Order which binds us written as a command, we are to do a roll call, in other words a division.
So Honourable Members, be ready, your name will be called out, if you agree with the Motion which has been moved by the Honourable Minister, you say, “aye,” and when you do not agree you say, “nay” or “no” as your name is being called out.

Bill reported from Committee with amendments.

…Silence… Third Reading - Later Today.

PROCEEDS AND INSTRUMENTS OF CRIME (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

39 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee with amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.


MR SPEAKER: As indicated earlier Honourable Members, the Societies Bill, 2021 (No.

38 of 2021) is on hold.

VIRTUAL ASSETS BILL, 2021 (NO.

35 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee with amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

COMPANIES (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

36 OF 2021) Bill reported from Committee without amendments.

Third Reading - Later Today.

Third Readings MOVABLE PROPERTY (SECURITY INTERESTS) BILL, 2021 (NO.
49 OF 2021) (Minister of Finance and Economic Development) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Movable Property (Security Interests) Bill, 2021 (No.

49 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MS SERAME): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

I beg to move that the Movable Property (Security Interests) Bill, 2021 (No.

49 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: Gatwe re le fe 2 minutes, 1 minute o tšhaile according to my watch.

MR SALESHANDO: Mr Speaker, ka gore di dintsi Bills tse re tlaabong re di tlhophela tse, would it not be more efficient and productive if we were to move for the suspension of the Standing Order which requires gore re bitswe one after the other for today, o bo o tsaya fela the predominance of the voices particularly for those where there is no disagreement?
MR SPEAKER: That would be the most… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re batla go bereka.

MR SPEAKER: Ee, le iphe le nako ya go ya go leba tse dingwe tsa kamoso.

MR SALESHANDO: It will be better fa o ka kopa Vice President (VP) fa o dumalana gore e nne ene a e sutisang, fa go sa sutise ene, ga go nke go tsamaya sentle, o a ganetsa.

So fa o e dumela, o mo kope a e sutise.

MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, VP ga a ka ke a gana fela selo se tlhamaletse, the efficiency of this House is a matter I am sure the VP appreciates.
So ga le mo tlhaloganye, ga a ka ke a gana.

Anyone of you Honourable Members can move the Motion.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke Standing Order mang foo Mr Speaker?

MR SPEAKER: Standing Order 62.1 (c).

MR KEORAPETSE: Mr Speaker, I beg to move that we suspend Standing Order 62.1 (c) for the purpose of efficiency.

That is the Standing Order which compels a division when a Bill is voted for at Third Reading.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

The question is that we suspend Standing Order 62.1 (c).
Question put and agreed to.

16 Hansard No 204Tuesday 1st February, 2022MOVABLE PROPERTY (SECURITY INTERESTS) BILL, 2021 (NO.

49 OF 2021) Third Reading MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, we now go back to the Third Reading as moved by the Minister of Finance and Economic Development, of the Movable Property (Security Interests) Bill, 2021 (No.

49 of 2021).

The question is that the Movable Property (Security Interests) Bill, 2021 (No.

49 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.


The Bill was read a third time and passed.

COMPANIES (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

36 OF 2021) (Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Companies (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

36 of 2021) be read a third time.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

CRIMINAL PROCEDURE AND EVIDENCE (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
41 OF 2021) (Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Criminal Procedure and Evidence (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

41 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Criminal Procedure and Evidence (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

41 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.


ACTING MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR MOLEBATSI): Mr Speaker, I move that the Companies (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

36 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Criminal Procedure and Evidence (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

41 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!


Honourable Members, the question is that the Companies (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

36 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

EXTRADITION (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

42 OF 2021) The Bill was read a third time and passed.

(Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) COUNTER TERRORISM (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

40 OF 2021) (Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!
Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Counter Terrorism (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

40 of 2021) be read a third time.

FOR AND MINISTER PRESIDENTIAL AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE PUBLIC (MR MORWAENG): Ke ADMINISTRATION a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Mr Speaker, I move that the Counter Terrorism (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

40 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Extradition (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
42 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Extradition (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

42 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, the question is that the the Extradition (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

42 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

MUTUAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
43 OF 2021) (Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Counter Terrorism (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

40 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

43 of 2021) be read a third time.

17 Hansard No 204MUTUAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
43 OF 2021) Third ReadingTuesday 1st February, 2022 MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

43 of 2021), be read the third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Minister.

Order!

order!

Honourable Members, the question is that Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

43 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!


Honourable Members, the question is that Chemical Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

45 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (No.

46 OF 2021) The Bill was read a third time and passed.

(Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) BIOLOGICAL AND TOXIN WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
44 OF 2021) (Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that Biological and Toxin Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

44 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Biological and Toxin Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

44 of 2021) be read the third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!


Honourable Members, the question is that Nuclear Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

46 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Nuclear Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

46 of 2021), be read the third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that Nuclear Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.
46 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that Biological and Toxin Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

44 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

PRECIOUS AND SEMI-PRECIOUS STONES (PROTECTION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

47 OF 2021) The Bill was read a third time and passed.

CHEMICAL WEAPONS (PROHIBITION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
45 OF 2021) (Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that Chemical Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

45 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Chemical Weapons (Prohibition) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

45 of 2021) be read the third time and do pass.

(Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security) MR SPEAKER: Order!
Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that Precious and Semi-Precious Stones (Protection) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

47 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Precious and Semi-Precious Stones (Protection) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

47 of 2021), be read the third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!


Honourable Members, the question is that Precious and Semi-Precious Stones (Protection) (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

47 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

18 Hansard No 204PRECIOUS AND SEMI-PRECIOUS STONES (PROTECTION) (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

47 OF 2021) Third ReadingTuesday 1st February, 2022 The Bill was read a third time and passed.

REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
48 OF 2021) (Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Real Estate Professionals (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

48 of 2021), be read a third time.

MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Real Estate Professionals (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

48 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Minister.

Order!


order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Real Estate Professionals (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No.

48 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

TRUST PROPERTY CONTROL BILL, 2021 (NO.

37 OF 2021) (Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) MR SPEAKER: Order!

order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Trust Property Control Bill, 2021 (No.

37 of 2021) be read a third time.


MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Trust Property Control Bill, 2021 (No.

37 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Minister.

Order!

order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Trust Property Control Bill, 2021 (No.

37 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.


PROCEEDS AND INSTRUMENTS OF CRIME (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.

39 OF 2021) (Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) MR SPEAKER: Order!

order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Proceeds and Instruments of Crime (Amendment) Bill, (No.

39 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Proceeds and Instruments of Crime (Amendment) Bill, (No.
39 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Minister.

Order!

order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Proceeds and Instruments of Crime (Amendment) Bill, (No.

39 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

VIRTUAL ASSETS BILL, 2021 (NO.

35 OF 2021) (Minister of Finance and Economic Development) MR SPEAKER: Order!

order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Visual and Assets Bill, 2021 (No.
35 of 2021) be read a third time.

MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MS SERAME): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, I beg to move that the Visual and Assets Bill, 2021 (No.

35 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Minister.

Order!

order!

Honourable Members, the question is that the Visual and Assets Bill, 2021 (No.

35 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.


MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, we have dealt with all that needs to be dealt with today, and all the papers.

MOTION ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Now that we have dealt with all the issues that we were supposed to deal with in today’s Order Paper, I move that this House do now adjourn.

Question put and agreed to.


The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 2:59 p.m. until Wednesday 2nd February, 2022 at 2:00 p.m. 19 Hansard No 204PROCEEDS AND INSTRUMENTS OF CRIME (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO.
39 OF 2021) Third ReadingTuesday 1st February, 2022 HANSARD RECORDERS Mr T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B.

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