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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 10 FEBRUARY 2022 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 205 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon.

Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP.

DEPUTY SPEAKER Hon.

P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP.

(Tonota) Clerk of the National Assembly Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly Learned Parliamentary Counsel Assistant Clerk (E) His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP.

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP.


(Boteti West) CABINET - President - Vice President - Ms B. N. Dithapo - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe - Advocate L. O. Tlhowe - Mr R. Josiah Hon.

K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP.

(Molepolole South) - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

K. T. Mmusi, MP.

(Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon.

Dr L. Kwape, MP.

(Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon.

K. K. Autlwetse, MP.


(Specially Elected) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon.

K. S. Gare, MP.

(Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

P. K. Kereng, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism Hon.

Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP.

(Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon.

T.M.

Segokgo, MP.

(Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon.

K. Mzwinila, MP.
K. Mzwinila, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon.

T. M. Rakgare, MP.

(Mogoditshane) - Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development Hon.

A. M. Mokgethi, MP.

(Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon.

P. O. Serame, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon.

F. M. M. Molao, MP.

(Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Hon.

Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP.


(Tati East) Hon.

L. M. Moagi, MP.

(Ramotswa) - Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology - Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security Hon.

M. Kgafela, MP.

(Mochudi West) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

M. R. Shamukuni, MP.

(Chobe) - Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development Hon.

E. M. Molale, MP.

(Goodhope-Mabule) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Hon.
D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP.

(Gaborone South) - Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

S. N. Modukanele, MP.

(Lerala -Maunatlala) Hon.

T. Monnakgotla, MP.

(Kgalagadi North) Hon.

M. M. Pule, MP.

(Mochudi East) Hon.

M. S. Molebatsi, MP.


(Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

S. Lelatisitswe, MP.

(Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon.

N. W. T. Makwinja, MP.

(Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon.

B. Manake, MP.
B. Manake, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

H. B. Billy, MP.

(Francistown East) Hon.

A. Lesaso, MP.

(Shoshong) - Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency Hon.

L. Kablay, MP.

(Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon.

Dr U. Dow, MP.

Hon.


P. Majaga, MP.

Hon.

M. Balopi, MP.

Hon.

J. S. Brooks, MP.

Hon.

C. Greeff, MP.

Hon.

T. Letsholo, MP.

Hon.

T. F. Leuwe, MP.

Hon.

T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP.

Hon.

Dr T. Matsheka, MP.

Hon.

S. N. Moabi, MP.

Hon.

P. K. Motaosane, MP.

Hon.

O. Regoeng, MP.

Hon.

J. L. Thiite, MP.


Specially Elected Nata-Gweta Gaborone North Kgalagadi South Gaborone Bonnington South Kanye North Takatokwane Gaborone Central Lobatse Tati West Thamaga-Kumakwane Molepolole North Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon.

D. Saleshando, MP.

(Leader of the Opposition) Hon.

M. G. J. Motsamai, MP.


(Opposition Whip) Maun West Ghanzi South Selebi Phikwe West Mahalapye East Sefhare-Ramokgonami Ngami Okavango Maun East Bobonong Selebi Phikwe East Palapye Nkange Mahalapye West Francistown West Hon.

D. L. Keorapetse, MP.

Hon.

Y. Boko, MP.

Hon.

Dr K. Gobotswang, MP.

Hon.

C. K. Hikuama, MP.

Hon.

K. K. Kapinga, MP Hon.

G. Kekgonegile, MP.

Hon.

T. B. Lucas, MP.

Hon.

K. Nkawana, MP.

Hon.

O. Ramogapi, MP.

Hon.

Dr N. Tshabang, MP.

Hon.

D. Tshere, MP.

Hon.


M. I. Moswaane, MP.

Hon.

T. S. Khama, MP.

Hon.

L. Lesedi, MP.

Hon.

B. Mathoothe, MP.

Hon.

M. Reatile, MP.

(Botswana Patriotic Front) Serowe West Serowe South Serowe North Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon.

W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.
W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.

Francistown South (Alliance for Progressives) TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 10th FEBRUARY, 2022 CONTENTS PAGE (S QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...................................................................................................................1-6 Appropriation (2022/2023) Bill, 2022 (No.
2 of 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)...................................................................................................................7-35 Thursday 10th February, 2022 THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) P R A Y E R S * * * * QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER NUMBER OF DOCTORS AND NURSES AT FRANCISTOWN SOUTH MR W. B. MMOLOTSI (FRANCISTOWN SOUTH): asked the Minister of Health and Wellness to state: (i) (i) the number of doctors at the Francistown District Health Management Team (DHMT) against the establishment register; (ii) the number of nurses at Francistown South Constituency clinics against the establishment register; and (iii) when the ministry will consider upgrading one of the clinics in the Francistown South Constituency to a 24-hour facility.
ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

(i) Mr Speaker, mma ke supe jaana gore mo sebakeng sa gompieno go na le dingaka di le 26 in the Greater Francistown District Health Management Team (DHMT) against 30 ba ba solofetsweng mo the establishment register.

Go raya gore go tlhaela ba le four to satisfy the establishment register.

(ii) Mr Speaker, Francistown South e na le clinics kana dikokelwana di le tharo e bong Masego, Lapologang le Botswelelo.
Ke tsone tseo, ke maina a tsone.

Ke supe jaana gore clinics tse tsotlhe ka boraro jwa tsone di tswalwa ka half past four.

Fa re bua ka tsa booki kana nurses re supe jaana gore kwa Masego re na le baoki ba le lesome; four midwives and six general nurses.

Establishment register ya re nurses ba nne lesome, go raya gore we are at 100 per cent.

Lapologang le yone e na le four midwives and five general nurses, mme establishment register ya re nine.

Go raya gore we are at 100 per cent.


Botswelelo e na le four midwives and four general nurses.

Establishment register ya re eight nurses mme go raya gore we are at 100 per cent.

Re lebeletse jalo the World Health Organisation (WHO) standards Mr Speaker.

(iii) Mr Speaker, go a tlhokafala gore nako le nako re nne re lebeletse seemo mme re tsholetse clinics tse dingwe tse re bonang di kgobokanelwa ke batho kana ba le bantsi go nna 24-hours, segolo jang mo mafelong a a nang le batho ba le bantsi.
Tse ke dikeletso tsa rona.

Ke sone se re supang jalo gore ke keletso ya rona gore nngwe ya clinics tse e ka tsholediwa go nna a 24-hour.

Ke tse re di lebeletseng jaaka Goromente a ntse a re neela madi kana Palamante e re rebolela madi gore e tlaa re mo isagong fa madi a lekana, re tsholetse diemo tsa dingwe tsa clinics tse go tlhokafalang jalo gore di ka nna 24 hours.

Mr Speaker, ke a leboga.

MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary, Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Minister, ke ne ke re a o a tlhaloganya gore mo Francistown ka bophara, kgaolo ya Francistown South ke yone e e nang le batho ba le bantsi go feta dikgaolo tse dingwe tse pedi mme e bile ke yone fela e e senang a 24-hour clinic?
Gape ke ne ke re ke go botse Tona gore, gore go bo go tlhaela dingaka di le four jaaka e le gore establishment register e supa 30 mme wa re re na le 26, a ke gone mo go dirang gore mo clinics tsa Francistown e bo e le gore bongaka ba bonala ka tshokolo mo e leng gore tota e bile fa gongwe ga ba bonale gotlhelele?

Ke gone mo go ka tswang go dira jalo?

Ga o bone gore gongwe go tshwanelwa ke gore Tona o dire sengwe sa gore bogolo gabedi mo bekeng go nne le ngaka mo clinics tseo?
Sa bofelo Tona, o tlhalose gore jaanong ka gore go lebega o kare re na le mathata a dipilisi tsa high blood le tsa sukiri kwa Francistown, o dira eng ka bofefo go bona gore batho ba koo ba a thusega ka gore batho ba rona ba tshwaragane le bothato jwa letlhoko la dipilisi tsa high blood le sukiri?

Ke a leboga.

MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke a leboga Honourable Member ka potso eo.
Mr Speaker, santlha ke supe jaana gore kana these establishment registers tsa rona di na le lebaka mme e bile go na le komiti e e tlhomilweng go lebelela gore di ka baakanngwa mo selekanyong se se rileng.

Moo go supa jalo gore dipalo tse ke ntseng ke di bua, di supa jalo gore batho ba setse ba ntsifetse ka bokete mo dikgaolong.
1 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Gongwe ke dikgang tse e leng gore le rona re le lephata re simolotse go lebelela registers tsa rona gore a mme di re neela a representation e e leng gore tota batho ba… ke gore selekanyo sa kokelo le numbers tse e leng gore babereki ba a bo ba lekana le tsone di setse di ka bereka mo nakong ya gompieno.

Gape ke supe jaana gore, mo kgaolong e ya nnetu ke a dumela rra gore ke yone fela e e senang a 24 hour clinic fa o le mo kgaolong eo.
Mme go na le clinics tse di gaufi…kana ke gone mo toropong, tse di gaufi le Kgaolo e ya Francistown South, tse re dumelang gore batho ba ba tswang mo Francistown South ba ka tsamaela teng fa ba pitlagane mo bosigong go a go bona thuso.
Fa re bua ka ya bofelo ya gore dingaka tse four, kana dingaka tse fa di le 26 in the greater Francistown, go na le tse e leng gore…greater Francistown o motona Mr Speaker, fa gongwe o fitlhela e le gore dingaka tsone tse, kana le tsone di ya mo malatsing a boikhutso, jaanong go bo go felela e le gore ka nako e e leng gore ba mo malatsing a boikhutso go a tlhaela.
Mme fa go tlhaela, kana ba General Health Numeracy Test (GHNT) kwa kgaolong ke bone ba e leng gore they rationalise go bona jalo gore mme pressure e ntsi e kae, ba bo ba felela gongwe ba dira gore dingaka di bo di tsamaela gone ka koo.

Jaanong go bo go felela e le gore mo clinics tse dingwe go a tlhaela thata, mme go sa reye gore batho ba ba ka koo bao ba ignored ka nngwe tsela.

Ke ne ke tsaya jalo gore ke ne ke leka go tlhalosa, mme e se gore gongwe mo go fetola matshelo a batho ba Francistown.
Fa re tsena mo go ya bofelo ya dipilisi, re le lephata re dule ka lenaneo, e bile le teng kwa motseng wa Francistown, le e leng gore fa motho a tla kwa sepateleng, ba chronic medication… ka kgang e ke neng ke e bua maloba kwa television gore, tota ditlamorago tsa COVID jaanong le rona di re atametse re le lephata, segolo jang mo go iseng ditlamelo kwa bathong.
Fa re lebeletse jalo dikgang tse tsa dipilisi, re tsere tshwetso ya gore fa motho a bonwa mo clinics tse di kwa Francistown a kwalelwe melemo, mme a bo a ya go e tsaya kwa private pharmacies.

Seo se dirwa kwa clinic ya Donga, ka gore ke bone ba ba lebeletseng batho ba ba tshelang ka malwetse a a sa tshelwaneng.
Ba ya go ikwadisa teng, mme e re morago fa ba sena go ikwadisa, ke gore le fa a le kwa Masego kana Tapologo mo go tsone clinics tse di mo Francistown South, jaanong gore a kgone to access that facility o tshwanetse gore a ye to register kwa Donga ba mmeele stamp, a bo a ya kwa private pharmacist a ya go tsaya dipilisi.

Se ke nama o se tshwere re santse re leka go baakanya seemo se re nang naso ka fa mabolokelong a rona a melemo kwa Central Medical Stores (CMS).

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

MR BROOKS: Supplementary Mr Speaker.

Thank you Honourable Speaker and good afternoon!

Minister ke ntse ke utlwa ka fa o arabang ka teng.

A ko o tlhalose fela letlhoko la bongaka ka go lebega le sa ame Francistown fela, lefatshe lotlhe le na le tlhaelo ya bongaka e e tseneletseng.

Can you elaborate go se kae fela go tsibosa lefatshe gore ke ka go reng o na le letlhoko le le kanakana la bongaka mo lefatsheng?
Sekai fela, mo Tsabong we need about 13 doctors or so to cover the whole constituency ya Kgalagadi South, but we are only operating with about six or seven doctors, a ko o tlhalose sir.

MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

O boditse potso e ntšha, mme e bile e le potso…ga e ntšha tota, ke raya gore e ntšha fa a boditse jalo e le Honourable Member.

Mme fela ka bokhutshwane re na le tlhaelo e ntsi ya bongaka mo lefatsheng la rona.
Kgang e ke e buile le maabane, ke supa jalo gore tota tlhaelo ya bongaka e ka tswa e bakiwa ke eng jaaka ba ntse ba re tlogela.

Bontsi jwa dingaka fa ba sena go tla mo service ya ga Goromente ba dumela gore dituelo di kwa tlase, mme bontsi bo a re tlogela joining the private sector, jaaka re bona gore our private sector e a gola.

E le golo mo go ntle, e se golo mo go maswe.

Ke sone se le rona re leng lephata re lebeletse jalo go leka go sekaseka dituelo tsa bodiredi jwa rona jotlhe.
Se e tlaa re se wetse gongwe re kgone to retain our doctors.

E seng dituelo fela, gongwe le ka fa ba berekang ka teng, kana kwa mafatsheng a mangwe ngaka o kgona go theogela mo sepatela, e bo e re maitseboa a bo a ya go theogela in the private sector.

Tse tsotlhe re a di sekaseka.

Mr Speaker, ke a leboga.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Le tswa Gweta mmogo mme ...(inaudible)… I think we have spent enough time on this question, there are many questions to be attended to.

Next one is Honourable Member of Mahalapye East.

…Silence… HONOURABLE MEMBER: A re ke mo e tshwarele Mr Speaker.

2 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER HONOURABLE MEMBER: Aah owai!

lebala Mr Speaker, mo re tlwaetse.


MR SPEAKER: Honourable Dr Gobotswang, Member of Parliament for Sefhare-Ramokgonami.
CHADIBE KGOTLA K. DR (SEFHARE- GOBOTSWANG RAMOKGONAMI): asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development if he is aware that the Chadibe village main Kgotla (in Tswapong area) is the only Kgotla headed by one Headman of Records for a village of a population size of Chadibe in the Mahalapye Sub-District; and if so, to state: (i) the names of villages that are smaller than Chadibe but are staffed with two or more Dikgosi in the Mahalapye Sub-District; (ii) the criteria used to grade Dikgotla and the level of staffing; and (iii) whether there are plans to upgrade the current status of Chadibe Kgotla to have at least two (2) Dikgosi.
OF MINISTER LOCAL ASSISTANT GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MODUKANELE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke leboge le Motlotlegi Dr Gobotswang for the question e a re e beileng fa pele.

(i) M Speaker, I am aware that there are some villages smaller than Chadibe staffed with two or more positions of Dikgosi across the country.

In the Mahalapye Sub District these villages are; Pilikwe with (Moemela Kgosi and Kgosana), Kalamare (Moemela Kgosi and Kgosana) and Machaneng (Moemela Kgosi and Kgosana).
On average, these villages have a population size of about 2000.

(ii) Mr Speaker, notwithstanding that they fall within the same population threshold, the difference with respect to Chadibe is that it falls under Sefhare catchment area and will therefore not have the same staffing levels like Sefhare.

Administratively, the criteria used to grade Dikgotla and the level of staffing depends on the village population size, and the volume of trial cases in the area.
(iii) Lastly my ministry is currently going through the restructuring process which includes Dikgotla and developing and determining staffing norms for Tribal Administration.

Currently Chadibe is assisted by Sefhare whenever there are cases that require a Kgosi with a higher warrant.

Mr Speaker, my ministry will continue to upgrade Dikgotla that meet the set criterion funds permitting.

I thank you.
I thank you.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Honourable Minister, fa o bua gore Chadibe ga e fiwe Dikgosi tse di lekaneng tse di ka nnang pedi ka gore e bapile le Sefhare, wa reng ka Kalamare e e bapileng le Shoshong, a mme o ka tsaya gore se o se buang seo e ka nna sone?

Jaanong kgang ke gore mme gone la re Chadibe e le motse o o kanakana le tlaa e tlisa leng gore e nne le dikgosi tse pedi?

Le dirisa eng fela se se tona, ke eng o sa bue wa tlhamalala fela gore le dirisa semorafe?

I thank you Mr Speaker.


MR MODUKANELE: ...(Laughter!)...

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Honourable Member, mma ke riana ke re, Honourable Member with due respect, kana mathata a gago ke gore, fa motho a bua wena o reetsa se o se akantseng.

I wish you could listen more and talk less.

Ke rile, and I admitted right at the beginning gore we are going through a process of determining the staffing norms to determine the right levels for the different Dikgotla across the country, including Chadibe.
Ga go na gope fa re ganeditseng, ga go na gope fa semorafe se tsenang teng.

Mma ke supe jaana gape gore, gone kwa Chadibe re na le six Headmen of Arbitration, ba re dumelang gore ba a thusa ...

...Silence...

MR SPEAKER: Dilo tsa Makgoa di ne di kgaogile o re o a araba.

MR MODUKANELE: Ke boelele Mr Speaker?

MR SPEAKER: Ee rra.

MR MODUKANELE: Ke tsaya gore the main question ke ne ke e arabile, except for the supplementary question.

MR SPEAKER: Just the supplementary.

MR MODUKANELE: Ee rra.


Mr Speaker, ke re my friend Rre Gobotswang, gongwe ga a nkutlwa sentle.

Kana fa gongwe o ne a santse a akantse gore o ya go botsa eng for supplementary.

Ke ne ke supa jaana Mr Speaker, gore e ya semorafe ga gona gope fa e tsenang teng.

Boammaaruri ke gore mo metseng yotlhe o na le ba Court of Arbitration, ba re lekang ka bojotlhe gore fa go kgonagalang teng, dikgang di felele teng koo.
Kwa 3 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Chadibe yo re buang ka ene, go na le ba le six as we speak, Head of Arbitration, ba e leng gore ba a thusa.

Ke supe jaana gore kwa bofelong jwa letsatsi, the most critical things that I have said ke gore we are going through a process, e e leng gore it will determine the level and the staffing norms for all Dikgotla across the country, including Chadibe e Honourable Member a buang ka yone.
Mr Speaker, go tsere sebaka gore kgang e e rarabololwe ka gore dingwaga tse pedi tse di fetileng, mogare wa COVID-19 o ne o santse o le bogale.

Ka jalo, re ne re santse re setse ditaelo tsa ba botsogo morago.

E bile re avoid gone go kgobokanya batho ba le bantsi, gore re tseye megopolo mo go bone Mr Speaker.

Ke sone se o bonang ke re tiro e setse e simologile.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

...Silence...

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister Modukanele.

MR MODUKANELE: Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: The last part to the answer after clarifying that there is no tribalism involved, and that le kanoka lefatshe lotlhe.

MR MODUKANELE: Mr Speaker, ke ne ke rialo ke re re kanoka lefatshe lotlhe go bona gore re tla ka tsela e e tlhomameng gore bodiredi mo Dikgotleng tsa rona, different levels and numbers in different Dikgotla Mr Speaker, gore ga gona gope fa semorafe se tsenang teng.

Eo my good friend Rre Gobotswang a e ntshe mo dikakanyong tsa gagwe, ga e yo gope.
Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

DAGWI AND CHANGATE BOUNDARY DISPUTES DR N. TSHABANG (NKANGE): asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development: (i) whether he is aware of the Dagwi and Changate villages boundary disputes and if so, when he intends to resolve the matter; and (ii) why it has taken so long to address the matter.

OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MS MONNAKGOTLA): Thank you Mr Speaker and good afternoon.

Ke leboge le motlotlegi go botsa potso eo Mr Speaker.
Ministry o itse ka seemo se e bile re solofela gore morero le dipuisanyo di simolole ka di 12 tsa ga February 2022, go rarabolola seemo se.

Ke solofela gore Motlotlegi Tshabang o tlaabo a le teng ka di 12, le ene a ile go reetsa.

Tla ke supe fa Magosi a metse ya Maitengwe le Nkange, le bone ba setse ba le mo ipaakanyong ya go ya go letlanya mo kgannyeng e. 4 DR TSHABANG: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Thank you Mma Monnakgotla.


I think kgang e ya gore ke eng go tsere lebaka, ga ke dumalane le wena gore e diilwe ke COVID-19 ka gore ke tsaya gore o a lemoga gore this conflict e tswa way back, even before COVID -19 and ofisi ya lona e ne e ntse e itse ka kgang yone e. Jaanong ke botsa gore tota le ne le diilwe ke eng, go sena COVID-19 mo teng?
Ya bobedi, wa re le kopana ka di 12 tsa ga February, this date e beilwe leng because it looks like e beilwe ka diamaramara because I have been getting calls from the relevant people this week?

Jaanong ga o bone gore tota le ne le ntse le sa ipaakaya, ke gone fela ka gore gompieno batho ba a lela thata?

A mme date ya di 12 le ntse le le mo tirong kana e ne e le kgang fela ya gore le phadimogile le bo le batla go baya date ya di 12?

Thank you gore la re le beile date ya di 12 anyway.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Speaker, ke a leboga motlotlegi.

Date ya di 12 tsa ga February, kana motlotlegi re tswa mo malatsing a di keresemose, ka jalo, itse gore bodiredi jo bongwe bo ne bo ise bo theogele.

Itse gape gore ke kgang e e batlang Bogosi, mme go ne go santse go rerwa jalo le Dikgosi go fitlheleng go bo go dumalanwa.

Kana dilo tse ke ditumelano, gone go dumelanwa gore morafe re ka kopana leng, e bo e le gore go dumalanwa go kopanwa ka tsone di 12.
Gape motlotlegi, ke solofela gore nna le wena re tsene mo ofising ka 2019, mme e rile ka 2020 ka February ke fa bolwetsi jwa COVID-19 bo tsena.

Ke sone se o bonang ke re mo dingwageng tse pedi tse di fetileng tse ke di itseng, re ne re tlhasetswe ke bolwetse, ke jone jo bo diileng.

E rile bolwetse jo bo ntse bo tsweletse, ka gore melemo e ne ya bonwa, e bile morafe wa gago o setse o ikentile otlhe, re bo re bona gore kana morafe o ikentile, re ka ya go kopana ra bua.
E bile e le gore re sireletsa matshelo a batho.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


UPGRADING OF GRAVEL ROADS IN NGAMI Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER MR K. C. HIKUAMA (NGAMI): asked the Minister of Transport and Communications to brief this Honourable House on plans to upgrade the following gravel roads in the Ngami Constituency to asphalt/bitumen standard: (i) Bodibeng-Toteng; (ii) Sehithwa-Kareng; (iii) Samedupi-Somelo; (iv) Kareng-Tsau, Habu Junction-Habu Village; and (v) Nokaneng-Qangwa/Dobe Border.
OF AND MINISTER COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

TRANSPORT Mr Speaker, karabo e ntse jaana; lephata lame ga le na lenaneo la gore le tlaa tlhatlosa ditsela tse Mopalamente a buang ka tsone go di ntsha kwa go tsa gravel go di isa kwa go tsa sekonotere.

Se se bakwa ke mabaka a tlhaelo ya madi a go dira ditiro tsa go nna jaana.
E re ntswa re ka se ka ra di tlhatlosa seemo go tswa kwa go gravel go ya kwa go sekonotere, gone re ntse re tsweletse ka go leka gore re dire dipaakanyo mo go tsone tse tsa gravel.

E bile ka kgwedi ya Seetebosigo ngogola, re ne re dira grading ya tsela ya Bodibeng- Toteng.

Mo go yone kgwedi eo, re ne re dira gape ya Sehithwa go ya kwa Kareng.

Ka Ngwanatsele ngogola, re ne re dira Samedupe-Somelo le yone re e grade.
Ya Kareng-Tsau go ya kwa junction ya Tsau-Habu, re ne re e dira ka kgwedi ya Phukwi gone ngogola, mme ka kgwedi ya Sedimonthole, re ne re bereka mo go ya Nokaneng-Xangwa/Dobe Border.

Re tlaa nna re tsweletse ka go dira grading ya ditsela tse Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga.

MR HIKUAMA: Supplementary.

Ke a leboga Tona, ke lebogela karabo.

Ke a utlwa gore la re ga lena plan ya go re thusa ka sekontere mo ditseleng tsone tse ke di buileng tse.
Honourable Member, o lemoga gore ga go na tsela epe mo kgaolong ya Ngami e e gokaganyang motse ope wa Ngami e e nang le sekonotere.

Seemo se wa re se ya go tswelela se ntse jaana mo kgaolong ya Ngami go fitlhelela leng?

bothata jwa go tsamaega?

Le raya le dira eng fela se se ka tokafatsang matshelo a batho le go dira gore badirise ba ditsela tse ba kgone go di dirisa ka bonolo?
Ya boraro, a mme o lemoga gore ditsela tse di ama kgolo ya itsholelo mo kgaolong, mo e leng gore le ba ba itekang ba di buses, ga ba kgone to last?

E bile ga ba kgone to service permits tsa bone ka gore bus e a tsena e bo e e swa.

Seemo se la re re ya go nna mo go sone go fitlhelela leng?

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

MR SEGOKGO: Mopalamente, ke lemoga tota gore go ka bo go ntse jalo gore ga rena tsela tsa sekonotere tse re etleng re tlwaele re re ke tsa access roads tse di gokaganyang metse e e mo North West gongwe le tsela ya Sehithwa go ya Mohembo.
Ke tsaya gore kana tseo re tlaa re fa re aga sesha tsela e ya Sehithwa-Mohembo, re tlaabo re tsentse, e bile re setse morago tsamaiso ya Puso ya gore re age access roads bogolo jang mo metseng e e tlang bong e le sekgele se se ka fa tlase ga lesome go tswa mo go yone tsela e. Ya bobedi, ke ditiro tse re ntseng re di dira, mme ke di tlhalositse motlotlegi, ke tlhalositse gore re ntse re grade ditsela, e bile ke supa dikgwedi tse re neng re grade ditsela ka tsone.
Ke a go utlwa gore wa re ga di tsamaege, gongwe o di soboka fela o sa tlhaole gore tota e e sa tsamaegeng ke e, mme nte ke di tseye fela jalo gore fa o re ga di tsamaege, go raya gore re fefoge, re ye go boa re dira grading ka gore ka nako ya dipula, ditsela di na le gore di senyege kgapetsakgapetsa.
Tota fela tsela fa e sa siama, e tshwanetse go ama dikgwebo tse di mo kgaolong e di leng mo go yone, e bile ke sone se re itseng ka botlalo gore ditsela di botlhokwa mo go reng di nne mo seemong sa gore di thuse batho, kwa ntle fela ga gore di thuse le dikgwebo.

Ke tlhaloganya seemo se o se buang motlotlegi, re tlaa fefoga tota gore re leke go bona gore re thusa jang.

Ke tsaya gore go na le dinako tse le neng le tla kwa go rona, mme re tla re tsiboga.

Le tsone tse re tlaa di tsibogela fela thata.


Ke a leboga.

MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary.

Tanki Mr Speaker, mme re dumedise Batlotlegi, re dumedise setšhaba.

Ya bobedi ke gore, ke utlwa o re go na le dilo tse le di dirang mo ditseleng tsone tse, ke utlwa o re le e dirile.
Le raya le dirile eng tota ka gore ditsela tse seemo sa tsone le fa re bua jaana, di ntse ga di tsamaege, di na le Tona, pharologanyo ya ka fa o gopileng ditsela (graded) ka teng ngwaga one o kana o o fetileng, le ka fa o tlaa di gopang ka teng ngwaga o o tlang kana one o, e ya go nna eng gore di kgone go tsamaega?
A ngwaga o o fetileng 5 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER o dirisitse dry grading, gompieno o dirisa wet grading kana o ntse o ya go dira mo go tshwanang fela e bo e re mo dibekeng tse pedi tse tharo e bo e nna e kete ga o a dira sepe.

Ke potso ya ntlha.
Ke potso ya ntlha.

Potso ya bobedi, a ga o na lenaneo lepe mo lephateng la gago gore ditsela tsa North West, fa e le gore mo lenaneong le la National Development Plan (NDP) 11 ga di yo, botoka o nefetatse gore di a tsena mo lenaneong la NDP 12?

Re lebile gore jaaka o bua, ga di yo gotlhelele, gore di kgone go nna le sekontere, ka sekontere ke sone fela se se ka nnang le botshelo jo bo leele.

Tanki Mr Speaker.

MR SEGOKGO: Ke a leboga Honourable Kekgonegile.


Re ne re dirisa dry grading mo paakanyong ya ditsela tse.

Gompieno jaana, ga ke a tshwara gore a re fetotse gore di ya go dirisa wet grading sir.

Ke tlaa go itsise sentle gore re ya go dirisa motlhale ofe wa maintenance, kana maintenance plans di dirwa bone ba sekasekile seemo sa ditsela, bogolo jang kwa region.
Ba bo ba re bolelela gore ba ya go di dira ka tsela e e ntseng jang, ba lebile le one madi a ba nang nao, mme ke ne ke sa tshwara karabo e e tlhomameng.

Ya gore ditsela di tsene mo NDP 12, ke setse ke tlhalositse gore tse re tlwaetseng gore ke access roads, re tlaa di dira fa re aga sesha tsela ya Sehithwa-Mohembo… MR KEKGONEGILE: Ga se access roads.

Ke ditsela fela tse di golaganyang metse.


MR SEGOKGO: Nnyaa, ke ne ke bua gore ke setse ke tlhalositse jang ka gore ke kopanya se o se botsang, o nne o reetsa, le se se neng se boditswe ke Honourable Hikuama.

Tse dingwe tse ditsela gore di tsene mo NDP 12, ke dumela gore wena o a itse fela gore tsamaiso e ntse jang ya gore di tsene on the plan.

Le wena jaaka o ntse jaana o le Mopalamente, o na le seabe, go simologa fela kwa khanseleng.
Re tlaabo re lebile gore in terms of priorities fa go tlhotlhiwa, ke ditsela tse di tshwanetseng gore le tsone di bo di lebeletswe.

Fa e setse e ya go tsena mo NDP 12, o a itse tsamaiso fela ya gore go ya go tlhophiwa gore go dirwa projects ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Ga se tshwetso e e tsewang fela ke lephata la me le baya gore re tsenya tse ka NDP 12.

Ke a leboga motlotlegi.


CEDA ANNUAL REPORT MR M. REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): asked the Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry to state: (i) if the Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) has an annual report; and if so, whether it is available to the public; (ii) when the last report was published; if none, why not; (iii) the number of Politically Exposed Persons (PEPs) funded thus far; and (iv) the total value of funding for PEPs so far.
MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR KGAFELA): Ke dumedisa Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Dumelang batlotlegi.

(i) Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, annual report kwa Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) ke selo se se dirwang.

Fa e sena go dirwa, e pegwa mo website ya CEDA gore setšhaba se kgone go e bona.
Ya bofelo e e neng e gatisitswe (printed) ke ya mafelo a ngwaga wa madi o o fedileng kgwedi ya Mopitlo e tlhola masome a mararo le motso, dingwaga tse kete pedi, lesome le botlhano (31st March 2015).

Ke rurifatse gore Agency yone e ntse e tsweletse pele dingwaga tse di fetileng go tlhomamisa gore dibuka tsa yone di a dupiwa.

E bile e tlisa makwalo a madi (financial statements) go fitlhelela ngwaga o wa 2019, kgwedi ya Mopitlo e tlhola masome a mararo le motso.
Ka se sebaka, CEDA e santse e kobakobile tiro ya gore financial audits tsa ngwaga o o tlang bokhutlong kgwedi ya Mopitlo e tlhola 31 ka 2020 le tsa 2021, e tsweletse pele e a di dira.

Tsholofelo ke gore e tlaare mafelelo a kgwedi ya February e, a bo e le gore di setse di le ready go ka bonwa.

Fela ke rurifatse jaaka ke ne ke bua kwa tshimologong gore ka mabaka a maikaelelo a go fokotsa ditshenyegelo, annual report ke selo se re dirisang maranyane.
Re e pega mo maranyaneng gona le gore re e print e nne mo pampiring.

Ka jalo, ke yone tsela e re e dirisang go tlhomamisa gore annual report e a bonwa.

(ii) Potso ya bobedi ke tlhalose gore, jaaka ke ne ke bua, ya bofelo annual report e ne e gatisitswe, ke ya ngwaga o o neng o tla bokhutlong ka di 31 tsa ga March 2015.

Go tlogeng foo, Agency e ne ya se ka ya tlhola e gatisa sepe.
Gape ke tlhalose gore ka seo sebaka, e ne e santse e le ka fa tlase ga tshokolo ya gore e ne e le mo seemong sa go tlhoka kutlwisisano le ba ba neng 6 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER ba e thusa, e bong CEDA Venture Capital Fund.

Tlhokakutlwisisano e e bo e baka gore ba nne le tiego ya go ntsha financial statements, mme e rile e rarabololwa, go gatisiwa ga annual report ga bo go itshupa e le gore go fetilwe ke nako gore go ka tlhola go gatisiwa.
Ke rurifatse gore soft copies tsone di teng jaaka ke tlhalosa, tse di felelang ka ngwaga wa 2019.

Ngwaga wa 2020 le wa 2021, jaaka ke tlhalositse, re tsweletse pele go di phutha, mme re solofela gore kgwedi ya February fa e tla bokhutlong, di bo setse di le mo seemong sa go ka bonwa.

E tlaare go yeng pele, re tlhomamise, ntle le gore re welwe ke seru se se tshwanang le sa tlhokokutlwisisano e ke neng ke bua ka yone, re nne re tlhomamisa gore annual report e tswa ka nako.
(iii) Potso ya boraro e ne e bua gore Politically Exposed Persons (PEPs) ba ba thusitsweng ke CEDA ba kae.

Mma fela ke re information e re e tshotseng, ke e e tlang up to di 30 tsa ga November 2021.

PEPs ba ba thusitsweng ke CEDA ka madi, palo ya bone e dira 133 businesses.
Ke atolose gore palo e ke e buang, e raya PEPs, lefoko le jaaka le itsiwe ka se sebaka e se mapolotiki fela, e raya le ba ba tshwereng diofisi tse di tona jaaka maloba le ne le iponela molao o tlama gore go nne le declaration of assets and liabilities.

Madi a a dirisitsweng mo PEPs a ka tshwara P276 million.

Jaaka ke tlhalosa, ke go fitlha di 30 tsa ga November 2021.

Ke a go leboga motlotlegi.

Ke go lebogele potso eo, ke eme.

MR REATILE: Supplementary.

Tla ke go leboge Mr Speaker.


Ke bo ke leboge Tona ka karabo ya gagwe e a tsweletseng ka yone.

Honourable Minister, a o ka thusa Ntlo e e leng fano, ka gore ke tsaya gore it is a statutory requirement gore each and every financial year, o tlamega go tla to table a report mo Palamenteng, a wa re o ntse o tsweletse o dira jalo Tona?

Fa e le gore o ntse o sa dire, a ga o bone e le gore o ntse o violate Act e e tlhomileng lekalana le o le eteletseng?

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


MR KGAFELA: Nnyaa, CEDA ke kompone, e tlhamilwe ka fa tlase ga molao wa Companies Act, ga se a statutory body.

Ke ne ka lebelela molaomotheo wa yone, mme ke bo ke fitlhela gore o e tlama gore ngwaga le ngwaga e bo e ntsha an annual report, audited financial statements e di neela the shareholder and present them at the Annual General Meeting (AGM).
Jaanong ga ke a bona gope fa go tlamang gore, jaaka makalana a mangwe a e leng statutory bodies tse di dirilweng ke Palamente, e tle e tlise this report before Parliament.

Le fa go ntse go na le phefo eo, ke na le tumelo ya gore go yeng pele, le fa ntswa molao o sa tlame, gone re tseye report e re e neele Mapalamente, ba tle ba kgone gore ba e lebelebe.

Jaanong ga gona molao ope o ke o robileng.


Fela ke a rurifatsa gore le fa jaaka ke tlhalosa gore le o seyo o o ntlamang, keletso ke gore re dire jalo go yeng pele.

Ke a leboga motlotlegi.

MR SALESHANDO: Supplementary.

Tona, ke tsaya gore o iphile nako go lebelela this 133 politically exposed persons ba ba filweng loans ke CEDA.

A mo go di sekasekeng, o ka rurifaletsa Ntlo e gore ga gona gope fa o ka fitlhelang go nnile le gore politically exposed persons, would have benefited mo go feteletseng.
In other words, o fitlhela motho a na le loans di feta bongwe a le mongwefela kana bobedi, ba di akola mo go ka belaetsang.

Ke a leboga.

MR KGAFELA: Ka thuso ya badirelapuso, ke amogetse palo ya bone gore ba kae.

Gore ke bomang, seo ga ke a tshola information ya sone.

Ga ke ise nke ke epe gore a le fa ntswa maina a seyo ke sa a neelwa, mo dipalong tse a go na le ba ba kotulang go feta ba bangwe, ba thusitswe ka tsela e e gogomosang maikutlo kgotsa ya phetelela.
Fa e le gore information e e a tlhokega, ke tlaa tsamaya ke ya go e kopa mme fela ke tlaa tlangwa ke molao gore sephiri sa moadimi wa chelete le yo o adimiwang, se tshwanetse sa tlotlwa.

Gongwe ke ka tla fela ka dipalo ka re dipalo di teng, ba le kae fa e le gore go ntse jalo, ba ka tswa ba kotutse go feta ba bangwe.

Fela maina ke re, molao o ya go ntlama gore ke totle sephiri sa moadimi wa chelete le moadimiwa.

Ke eme Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.


MR SPEAKER: Maranyane a re diretse mathata a jele nako ya dipotso.

Jalo he, re tlaa nama re eme gone fa, re bo re ya kwa go baleng Bill ya ga Mma Serame la bobedi.

APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the debate on this Bill is resuming.

When the House adjourned yesterday, Honourable Member for Takatokwane was on the floor.
Before you take the 7 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) floor, following your advice at the General Assembly a recalculation of speaking minutes has been done.

The Leaders of the Minority Parties will be entitled to 35 minutes and the other Members to 30 minutes.

Therefore Honourable Leuwe, you are the beneficiary of an extra 10 minutes to your 4 minutes 49 seconds.
MR MOATLHODI: Procedure Mr Speaker, ka boikokobetso thata Morena wa me.

Ke a go leboga.

Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, sa ntlha ke supe tlotlo le boitumelo jo bogolo mo paakanyong e o sa tswang go e direla rraarona Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Takatokwane.
Ke botse Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente gore, ba re letseng re buile, gakere mme rraetsho with your good Speakership o tlaa re direla thulaganyo gore nna le Motlotlegi Reatile le ba bangwe re kgone to claim 10 minutes wa rona sir.

Ke yone potso ya me Morena wa me.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: A re e tlogele foo Mokhurutshe.

Dilo tsa Modimo di diragala jaana.

Go na le ba ba tsholwang ka nako ya tlala, ba bangwe ba bo ba tsholwa ka nako ya ntepuntepu.

O mongwe wa bone.
O mongwe wa bone.

MR LEUWE (TAKATOKWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Good afternoon Mr Speaker, dumelang batlotlegi.

Lalang ka ntho madi a tshologa Rraagwe Nkamo.

Le nna ke tsene fela mo lehulonyaneng, ka gore 5 minutes ole o ne a ntshalela.

Ke sone se ke kgonneng go bona metsotso e e some e e fa godimo e. Lala ka ntho madi a tshologa Reggie.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Maabane fa ke tshwarwa ke nako ke ne ke santse ke le mo go lekeng go supa gore fa ke tsaya Kgaolo ya Takatokwane ke sa akaretse jaaka report e ke neng ke bua ka yone gore generally e amile lefatshe ka bophara, ke baya dikai jaaka go okeleditswe bagodi, bo Village Development Committee (VDC) le Ipelegeng ka ma P100.00.

Takatokwane Constituency fa ke e tsaya ke lebagana le yone e le nosi, ke santse ke gatelela kgang ya gore nna pego e e mpeile ka fa mosing.
Fa e le gore re santse re tlaa dira kabo madi ya mofuta o o ntseng jaana, ga re ye go kgona go lwantsha kgang ya rural-urban migration.

Mo bogompienong pego e ka fa e ntseng ka teng, e re bontsha fela gore go a patelesega gore batho ba ba kwa bo Tsetseng, Ditshegwane le Dutlwe ba tle kwa East, ba tle go batla ditiro ka gore ditiro tsotlhe bontsi jwa tsone di kwano.
Golo mo go re baya ka fa mosing mo dilong tse dintsi thata, ka gore le gompieno jaaka go ya go dirwa palo ya batho, batho ba rona ba ba tswang kwa dikgaolong tse di tshwanang tsa Takatokwane tse ba tsile go balelwa kwano.

Go bo go raya gore ka ga re a itse gore gatwe ditlhabololo di tsamaya ka dipalo tsa batho, di tlaabo di tla kwa go tsewang gore ba nna teng thata.

Ba tsisitswe ke seemo se ke kgatlhanong le sone.

A e re mo nakong e e tlang, Budget e, re e bone e nna urban to rural areas migration.
Re bone bokete jwa cake e, e ganelela kwa dikgaolong tse di kwa tengnyanateng, tse re tsayang gore di ka fa mosing.

Budgets tse di diragetseng ke setse ke le Mopalamente, ke bona di baya kgaolo ya me ka fa mosing thata.

Le yone e, e ntse e e baya ka fa mosing.

Ke sone se ke reng, ke itse gore mo go e ya gompieno ga go na sepe se re ka tlholang re se dira.

Ke go supa gore re na le ngongora.


Mo go e latelang, a re direng mo go tlaa gakgamatsang batho Honourable Serame, e bile go tlaa dira gore o nne motlotlo le go feta.

Batho ba go tlotlomatse le go feta ka ditshwetso tse o tlaabong o di tsere.

O tsere bontsi jwa cake o e isitse kwa dikgaolong tsa kwa tengnyanateng, tse e leng gore ...

MEMBER: Clarification HONOURABLE Honourable Leuwe.

MR LEUWE: Rra?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR LEUWE: O mang?

MR HIKUAMA: Ke Hikuama.


MR LEUWE: I yield ka bonakonyana Cater.

I yield Mr Speaker.

MR HIKUAMA: Point of clarification.

Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker.

Ke a leboga Honourable Leuwe for yielding.

Ke botsa gore fa o itlhoboga gore mo go e, a ga go na se se ka diragalang, gakere re na le tshono ya go sutisa gore go nne le dipaakanyo?

Go tle go tsenngwa dikgaolo tse o dumelang gore di tlogetswe kwa ntle ga di a akarediwa ke Budget.
Ke eng o itlhoboga thata e kete ga o na tshepho gore re ka fetola?

MR LEUWE: Thank you Honourable Hikuama.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke itlhobogisiwa ke gore ke dumela gore Budget is a very long process, gore o e fetole motlhofonyana jaana, e nna kgang e dingalo thata.

Even this morning ke ne ke reeditse banaleseabe mo Budget 8 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) ba supa gore they were consulted.
Go tlaabo go boa gore e nne process e teleletelele thata go ya kwa morago.

Fa e le gore go ka kgonagala gore re itshikhinye fale re e obe, go ka tshwanelwa ke gore re e obe.

Dikgaolo tse dingwe re utlwe e re fa go buiwa ka Budget jaana, di umakege mo teng bogolo jang tse ke buang ka tsone tsa Takatokwane.

Ga ke bolo go lela ka tsela.


Last time ke ne ke tsere Honourable Segokgo re ile go bona tsela e khutshwakhutshwanyane e e tswang fa Metsibotlhoko e tsena mo Khudumelapye e e ka thusang mo tseleng e ke buang ka yone ya Letlhakeng-Kaudwane.

Go supafala gore tender ke e, tender ke e. Gompieno fa o re o sala dikgang tseo morago, o utlwa gotwe tsela kilometre fa e dirwa ke P6 million, jaanong madi a a neng a ntshitswe a mannyennyane.

Le fa a le mannyennyane, a nne fela kwa go rona bogolo a okediwe a le koo.
Re se ka ra tloga ra utlwa gotwe a dule koo a ile golo gongwe.

Ke supe gore re gateletswe ke botshelo kwa kgaolong ya Takatokwane.

Mongwe le mongwe o a itse le fa go dirwa dipatlisiso tsa lehuma, le remeletse thata mo dikgaolong tse di tshwanang le tsa rona.

Mabaka a teng e le gore ga go na ditiro.

Boammaaruri ke gore ga go na ditiro dipe tse o ka di bonang tse di botoka, kwa ntleng ga Ipelegeng.
Re dumela gore yone e bo e le gore go godiwe molelo kwa lelwapeng, e se tiro e e ka dirang gore botshelo jwa gago bo ka tokafala ka tsela nngwe.

Ke sone se o bonang o kare re gateletswe ke lehuma thata.

Ke eletsa gore re ganelele thata mo dikgaolong tse di gateletsweng ke lehuma.

Re batho ba nama le madi rotlhe ka go lekana, re a tshwana.

A re se ka ra tloga re lebana ka leitlho le e seng lone.
Re ne re le gone mo Palamenteng e, ke bua ka kgang ya kaboditsha gore bagaetsho, kwa kgaolong ya Takatokwane re santse re na le lefatshe.

Ke le Leuwe, ke kopa gore a kgang e ya gore go emelwe ditlamelo e se ka ya bereka kwa go rona.

Metse ya rona yotlhe fela e e kwa kgaolong e agilwe go ise go nne le ditlamelo.

Ditlamelo di re fitlhela re ntse re agile.

Rre Mzwinila fa a le fa, o ne a supa madi, a bo a tlhalosa gore a mantsi gore re ise ditlamelo kwa ditsheng tse re ka di abelang batho.
Jaanong ga go supafale gore Rre Mzwinila o tlaa okelediwa madi ao gore a ye go leka land servicing a le neele batho.

Kopo ya me ke gore, a re tswe mo waiting list.

A re se ka ra dira batho ba kgaolo ya Takatokwane jaaka re tsaya batho ba mafatshe a mangwe.

Ba jele diphologolo tsa bone, gompieno jaana ba batla go re laolela gore diphologolo tsa rona mo Botswana re di tlhokomele jang.

Ba bona gore ba ka nna botoka ka go re ruta gore re tlhokomele diphologolo, mme ba kgonne go ja tsa bone.
Le rona mo Botlhaba re feditse lefatshe la rona.

Jaanong re batla go tsisa melao e e bokete kwa go rona ba re santseng re na le lefatshenyana gore le re imele.

Ka mabaka a mangwe, re ya go nna le dikakanyo tsa gore le a bona gore re eme, le bo le tswa ka kwano le boa le ya go tsaya lefatshenyana leo.

A go diragale jaaka re ne re dumalana.

Re dumalane gone fa mo Palamenteng gore go ya go abiwa ditsha tseo di le un-serviced, services di tlaa fitlhela batho ba ntse koo.
Ke bile ka ba baya sekai gone fa gore go na le ditsha tse dingwe tse di neng tsa abiwa go ntse jalo kwa Takatokwane.

Fa o ya kwa tsone le gompieno jaana, ba setse ba agile.

Ba agile jaana service di ise di ba fitlhele, di ya go ba fitlhela ba agile.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR LEUWE: Go bua mang?

MR MOSWAANE: Honourable Moswaane.

MR LEUWE: Ee rra, I yield.

MR MOSWAANE: Point of clarification.


Ntlha e ya gore ditlhabololo di ye kwa dikgaolong tse di kwa tengnyanateng, e tlile go kgonega jang fa o bona gompieno District Development Committees di se ka di akaretsa Mapalamente ka stage sa go dira ditlhabololo?

Go tlaa diragala jang gore o itse gore ditlhabololo di tlaa nna teng fa di seyo at plenary level?

O sekaseke gone foo Motlotlegi Leuwe.

Mapalamente ga re akarediwe ka nako ya go dirwa National Development Plan (NDP), re kopana le yone mo Palamenteng.
Go tlile go kgonega jang gore re nne le taolo ya gore tota mme ke solofeditswe se mo kgaolong ya me?

Thank you.

MR LEUWE: Ke a leboga Honourable Moswaane.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke dingwe dintlha tse ke dumelang gore fa ke ne ke na le nako, ke ne ya go tsena kwa go tsone.

Gompieno jaana re bua ka Commission ya Constitutional Review, o bona go pharegilwe metse e le mebedi e le meraro mo kgaolong ya gago o sa rerisiwa.
O leka go e phatlalatsa le kgaolo ya gago go supa gore ga o ka ke wa tsaya motse o o fa Ditshegwane le Sesung, e bapile thata mo e leng gore ba ba leng kwa kgakala kwa Kaudwane le Motokwe ga ba ka ke ba goroga koo.

Gongwe fa go ne go dirilwe consultation e Rre Moswaane a e buang, re ka bo re nnile le nako ya go supa gore kgaolo ya me ke itse boatlhamo jwa yone jaana.
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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gore at least ba bangwe ba fitlhelele kwa gongwe.

Jaanong o tlaabo o bolelelwa fela gore ka di kana re kwa boketekete, ka di kana re kwa boketekete.

Ke dumela gore go tshwanetse go nne jaaka o bua Honourable Moswaane.
Consultation e nne teng, re tle re nne le input so that we own that plan.

Re a bo re nnile le input mo go e diragatseng.

Ke ne ke santse ke le mo kgannyeng ya allocation gore gompieno jaana kwa kgaolong e nthomileng kwano, transferring setsha o se tsaya o se neela yo mongwe, ga go na ope yo o di dirang.

Fa o re o tsena kwa land board o botsa, batho ba tserwe ba ile kwa Land Board ya Mogoditshane.

I do not remember letsatsi lepe ke utlwa gore officer e dule kwano to relief kwa Motokwe.
Nako le nako batho tswa kwa to relief kwano ka goreng?

Golo mo go tshwanetse go lebelelwe.

Mongwe o tlaa bona gore ditlamelo tse di a tlhaela.

Cyclone e e neng e tswa kafa e bidiwa Ana, marothodi a yone a ne a goroga kwano.

A le rona cake e tle kwano.

Re lese go kgaoganya dilo ka tsela e e leng gore kgantele yo mongwe a bo a simolola go supasupa yo mongwe ka monwana, a ngongoregela gore ga o kgaoganye cake sentle, kgotsa she/he does not benefit, go boelwa ba bangwe.
Ke eletsa go supa fela gore ke ne ke utlwa bakaulengwe fa ba ntse ba akgela ba supa gore… ga ke bone nako foo Mr Speaker… ba supa gore Domkrag e a kopa (copy).

Fa ba ntse ba tsweletse ba supa gore Domkrag e a kopa, e kopile gore ba ntshe sesole le gore bana ba tsene sekole mahala, e ntse e le bone ba boa ba supa gore Domkrag e tlhogo e thata le fa o re o bua le yone ga e go utlwe.

Ke bo ke ipotsa gore a jaanong se ba se buang a rona re le ba rra Domkrag ga re ka ke ra se akanya.
A mme e bile fa e le gore ba a se bua re bo re bona se le mosola ka gore dinako tse dintsi gantsi, tlhaloso ya rona e nna gore ga go ise go nne nako, fa go nna le nako go nna le… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le utlwela thateng jaaka tonki.

MR LEUWE: …fela jaaka Honourable Modukanele a sa tswa go araba fa gore fa nako e letla, go tlaa diragala jalo.

Jaanong potso ya me e nna gore a mme gone mo ga go supe gore nako ya teng e a bo e gorogile?
Fa re sena go bua go bo go buiwa… a jaanong e se ka ya re fa le bua le fitlhela mo gongwe e bile go setse go le mo plans, ra ya go go diragatsa?

Ke dumela gore re tsenetse… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR LEUWE: Yielded.

MR MOATLHODI: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke lebogile thata Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Takatokwane go go tsena ganong.
Nnyaa, ke ne ke re rraetsho ntlha e e buiwang ke Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Francistown Bophirima ga se boammaaruri gore Mapalamente ga a nke a akarediwa (not involved) fa go dirwa National Plans.

I for one kwa kgaolong ya me Molaodi le Village Development Committees (VDCs) ba a mpitsa and I expect gore Batlotlegi Mapalamente botlhe, that is the same treatment that they need.

Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Rraetsho Leuwe.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Heela!

go tsweletse gompieno; ga o yo kwa kgaolong.

Ah-ah!
Ah-ah!

MR MOATLHODI: Ke a itse mme ke laleditswe.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga o itse sepe, tlogela go bua fela.

MR MOATLHODI: Ke laleditswe.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O laleditswe, ga o ise o attend.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Leuwe.

MR LEUWE: Tota ke dumalana le wena Rraagwe Nkamo ka gore le nna ke fa mme gone ke a itse gore di tsweletse e bile ke kopile batlotlegi Makhanselara gore ba nne teng.
Dilo tse dingwe mme o fitlhela o kare di re feta ka kwa morago fela jaaka ke ne ke baya sekai ka this Constitutional Review Commission gore fa gongwe re ne re rerisitswe (consulted), re ka bo re ne re dirile jalo.

Eo yone e ntse fela jaaka o e bua Rraagwe Nkamo.

Le nna e rile fa ke tlaa bonang motsotso teng, ke tlaa leka gore ke iponatse kwa go yone ka gore le nna ke eletsa gore ke ye go nna le… HONOURABLE MEMBER: E bitswa o le kwa Palamenteng and it is difficult for you to attend the process.
MR LEUWE: Rre Moswaane, mma ke bue; ke ne ke go file nako.

MR SPEAKER: You are disturbing Honourable Moswaane.

the flow MR LEUWE: Tla ke bue ke wele ke re… eish!

Nako e le yone ga se ya sepe.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) ke supe gore tota mme kwa Takatokwane ke santse ke na le selelo.

Ke tlaa go bua gape kwa ministries, gongwe go tlaa nna le motsotsonyana o mongwefela o ke ka itebaganyang le ministries tse dingwe ka gore ga ke a kgona go fetsa ka dikgang tsa teng.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR DIKOLOTI): Tla ke go leboge Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo.
Mr Speaker, dingwaga tse pedi tse di ntseng di feta re ne re raletse sekaka sa dibataolo, re lela sa ga Ragele re gana go gomodiwa fa re akanya lekgere le mokwakwa o o kwa dikgaolong tsa rona.

Re akanya lešhekere la ditlhabololo, bogolo jang fa re akanya lenyora la morafe o o re romileng e bile ba beile ditsholofelo tsa bone mo go rona go bona gore re tokafatsa matshelo a bone.

Ee, go ne go se motlhofo go amogela gore dilo di ntse ka fa di neng di ntse ka teng.
Mr Speaker, re tsamaile ka setlhogo sa tsholofelo se se neng se re, ‘re swaila mo mmitlweng ka dinao tse di botlhoko’ mo lebakeng le le fetileng mme Mr Speaker, re tla re tomotse mmitlwa.

O kare dinao di a sidilega.

Re tla ka diphetogo ka gore lerothodi o kare re tla le bona.

Lenko la pula ya ditlhabololo re a le dupa, maru a a dusa Mr Speaker, a dusa bonamagadi.
Mr Speaker, ke tla ke kgobakgoba ka monyenyo sefatlhegong sa me, ke ngunanguna sefela sa Sione le bojaki se se reng ‘Motse o re o thologeletsweng re se re o bona pejana.’ HONOURABLE MEMBER: Leboko la gago le monate monna, o le nthute.

DR DIKOLOTI: Ke utlwa ke gopola moruti wa Spiritual kwa Digawana, Moruti Takwa yo o re tlogetseng mo botshelong ngogola.

A mowa wa gagwe o robale ka kagiso.

Ke utlwa gape ke gopola Moruti kwa Mmathethe, Modulasetilo wa Komiti ya Baruti, Rre Baipidi.
Mr Speaker, ke setse sefela se morago ka gore ke dumela gore kante Jeso o ne a ntse a mpona fa ke lela jwale.

A mpitsa a re ‘tla go nna o tle o fole matswalo.’ Nnyaa, o kare matswalo a me a tlaa fola, lenko la ditlhabololo ke a le utlwa le oketsega letsatsi le letsatsi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo.

Mr Speaker, marangnyana a sa le pele, Mmathethe- Molapowabojang o sa tlhagile; o a kganya.

Le rona re tlaa itse gore ‘monateng monateng’ ka pele.
Re tlaa kalapa jaaka bo ntsu ba ba diphuka ditona Mr Speaker, mme re sa lape ka gore re romilwe ke setšhaba … (Interruption)… la Mmathethe-Molapowabojang, ke lentswe la Modimo.

Mr Speaker, pele ga ke tsena mo tsibogong ya me, ntumelele le nna ke akgole motho wa mme e bile e le ntsalake ka Borolong.

Ke bua ka namane ya Tholo e e jang mogope e o lala, morwadia-morara-a-noto; Peggy Onkutlwile Serame, o sphala banyana.
Kana ke wena mme wa ntlha go tshwara tiro e e masisi e. Legale ke sa reye Motlotlegi Tautona wa me.

Dingwaga di le masome a matlhano le botlhano di wetse go fapaana borre fela mme wena mma wa feta wa dira ditso tse di kwadilweng.

Tswelela ka botswerere le bonokopila joo tlhe Tholo.

Mr Speaker, ngwaga o wa madi wa 2022/2023 ke one wa bofelo wa Lenaneo la Ditlhabololo la bo Lesome le Bongwe (NDP 11) mme tsholofelo ya rona re le Mmathethe-Molapowabojang e ne e le kwa godimo fela thata.
Re solofetse mo pegong e ya madi.

Tsholofelo ya rona ga e a latlhega ka motse o re o thologeletsweng ke ole o tlhagile, o a kganya.

Mr Speaker, Tona Serame o ntlhatswitse ngati tota.

Pelo ya me e ntse tshweu jaaka sefokabolea.

Le fa go ntse jalo Mr Speaker, nkgo ya tlhabologo ga nke e tlala e bile ka re sa tswa go tswa mo tikwatikweng e ya bolwetse e, go raya gore matshelo a Botswana a boetse kwa morago ka bongwe ka bongwe.
Mr Speaker, letlhoko la ditiro kwa kgaolong ya Mmathethe-Molapowabojang le a tshwenya tota.

Pelo ya me e elela bohibidu fa ke akanya Sedilame kwa Lejwana, Gopolang kwa Machana, Ikanyeng kwa Gopong, Magare kwa Lerolwane, Boago kwa Maisane le ba bangwe fela banana ba kgaolo ba ba sa boneng mebereko.

Ba ke bana ba ba ithutseng dithuto le ditiro tse di farologaneng mme botlhe ga ba bone mebereko.
Mr Speaker, nako e tlile ya gore re le Puso re se ka ra baya fela mo go rotloetseng bogwebi go lwantsha seemo se mme re eme ka dinao gape go dira mebereko, segolo jang mo dikgaolong jaaka Tona Serame a e papaditse mo Paragraph 6 ya pego ya gagwe; go fokotsa mosuke kwa ditoropong.

Mr Speaker, seemo sa go tlhoka mebereko se okeditse borukutlhi jwa mefuta yotlhe le tiriso botlhaswa ya diritibatsi.

Go tsela e bidiwa Mmathethe-Metlobo, Bray-Werda, e e leng gore ke phitlhelelo e tona e e seng kana ka sepe.
E seng fela mo banning ba Mmathethe- Molapowabojang, mme e leng lefatshe la Botswana ka bophara.

Tsela e kana e gokaganya poto ya khumo le mmaraka.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) go goroga mo mebarakeng go sena tshokolo epe.

Cold storage le yone e tlaa kgona gore e ko e tsoge.
Temo le thobo e e huparetsweng ke kgaolo ya me jaaka kwa Metlobo, Kanngwe, Soolaphuti, Tsoaneng, Mmalore, Lerolwane, di tlaa kgona go bona mmaraka o mosha wa Kgalagadi, fa megobagoba e tlaabo e boela gae e tswa go rekisa sika loo nama.

Dilo tse go batla Batswana ba lemoge ka fa re lekang go gokaganya diphatlha khumo ka teng, gore maduo a tle a fetole botshelo jwa dikgaolo tse di amegang, jaaka motlhabatshe ya bone ya tlhomo ntšha ya ga Tautona.
Mr Speaker, selebego sa botshelo kwa Mmathethe se tshwanetse sa fetoga.

Digawana, Lorwana, Mogojogojo, Metlobo le Lorolwane le dikgaolo tse di tshwanetseng, di tshwanetse gore di robe mo badirising ba tsela e. Itsholelo ya kgaolo e e sa itumediseng, letlhoko la ditiro le tsholofelo e e latlhegileng e tshwanetse ya nna dilo tsa maloba, jaaka gape re itebaganya le tlhabatshe ya botlhano ya tlhomo ntšha e e buang ka go fetola ka fa re akanyang ka teng.
Mr Speaker, tsela e fela e le nosi e tlaa fetola loago la kgaolo ya me le diteme tsa rona, e tlaa nna tsa mogolokwane fela.

Jalo re tshwanetse ra amogela dilo tse ka mowa o o edileng le dipelo fela tse di theri.

Ditebogo tsa rona ga di na mothamo wa go supa boipelo jwa rona, e bile ga di kitla di lekana tiro e. Mr Speaker re santse re tlhologeletswe go bona Mmathethe-Molapowabojang a phatsima, mme se ga re ka ke ra se kgona fa tsela e ya Gatlhwane-Kgoro- Goodhope e sa tshelwa bontshonyana.
E kete o kare tsela e e dirwa e kgono sa yone sa ya go goroga kwa ga Majaalela, di tle dinokwane tsa goo Ramokgosi tsa Batshweneng di nthamele, Kgosi Mahalelo a kgone go mpha monyenyo.

Re tlaa gakologelwa gore kana tsela e e tswa kgakala e le mo lenaneong la ditlhabololo, e bile e kile ya tsenngwa mo ditseleng tse di neng di tshwanetse go diriwa ka mohudiso.

Mme ka go tlhoka lesego ya salela kwa morago.


Kana tsela e le yone ke magokaganya, ga e gokaganye Morolong le Gangwaketse fela, mme e kopanya balemi ba ba tona ba Mosesedi le mmaraka motlhofo.

Tsela e e tlhofofatsa tsa botsogo, tsa thuto go tswa kwa moding, mme le yone e ka rudisa itsholelo ya metse e tshwana le Gathwane, Lejwana le Digawana, kwa go tletseng bagwebi ba ba botlana ba ba sa adimang tshwene mabogo gotlhelele.
Mr Speaker, mo boemong jwa morafe o o nthumileng ke rapela Tona Segokgo gore mo bonnyennyaneng jo Morolong a bo mo fileng, tsweetswee o re gopole, mme o tlaa ratwa ke Modimo le tšhaba ya kgaolo 49.

Mr Speaker sekidi sa madi se se abetsweng ba Local Government se ntlhatswa ngati e le ruri.

Ke tlaabo ke sa emela batho ba Digawana-Gopong sentle fa ke ka palelwa ke go supa katlego e re e boneng.
Ngogola le ngogotlola ke ne ke lela sa ga Ragele ka seemo sa Gopong Primary, gore se tlhoka gore le sone se godisiwe.

Mme ke ntshitse phega, e bile ga ke na pelaelo ya gore sekole se se tlaa agiwa.

Monyenyo wa ga Modulasetilo wa Village Development Committee (VDC) kwa Gopong, Rre Kabo Phale, le komiti ya gagwe ga reng ga bone go na le bomme Dinah o phunya maru ka mara.
Phitlhelelo e ga re e buiwe, e bile re supe ka fa kago ya sekole se e tlileng go tokafasa maduo a a ntseng a sa tlhatswe pelo a Digawana-Lorwana Primary, ka sekole se sa Gopong se tlaa ba fokoletsa palo ya baithuti.

Mr Speaker Dikgosana tsa Tetlano, e bong Rre Itheetseng, Rre Sedirwa le Rre Radikgokong, ba re ke fetise malebo a bone, e bile ke supe tshepho ya bone mo Pusong e ya ga Motlotlegi Tautona Dr Masisi.
Fa ke ne ke na le diteme tse di sekete ke ka bo ka tsone ke opela ke re, “dipula tsa letlhogonolo fa di na ka medupe le nna tlhe o nkgopole.” Ke opela gore jaaka Tona Serame a nesa dipula tsa matlhogonolo jaana le nna ke rothegelwe ke lerothodi ke tle ke bonele mophato wa makgabunyana phapose ya borutelo, early childhood class.

Mr Speaker nna le Kgosi Kgwakgwe re a dumalana tota le gone, gore thuto ke yone motheo wa ditlhabololo.
Mr Speaker, ke dingwagangwaga, dingwaga tota, Digawana, Mmathethe Mogojogojo le metse e e mabapi di tshelela mo lenyoreng, ke raya go sena le fa e le thothi kana, dipompo di ntsha mowa fela, le rusi e se kana ka sepe mo go tsone.

Re ne ra goeletsa jaaka sefofu sa Jeriko nako e se goeletsa gore Jeso morwa Tafite nkutlwele botlhoko.

Mme Puso e e kutlo e ya ga Tautona Dr Masisi ya re utlwela botlhoko.
Mr Speaker, seemo sa metsi ga se sa maloba, mme e bile re solofetse gore Lobatse Water Master Plan e wele, tsholofelo ya rona ke gore Baegepeto ba re neng re ntse re ba bona ga re kitla re ba bona gape.

Mr Speaker, Batswana ba ba ntseng ba eletsa go hirisa kwa Digawana, Gopong, Lorwana, Mogojogojo le Mmathethe ba tlaa kgona go hirisa, bagwebi ba tlaa kgona go ngokega.

Mme motse o re tlaa bona pejana, ka itsholelo ya motse e tlaa emelela ka bana ba rona ba tlaa bona ditiro ka go farologana.
E re le ntswa tshika e ya Lobatse Water Master Plan e tokafaditse seemo sa metsi mo kgaolong kwa Gathwane seemo se santse se saletse kwa morago fela thata.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) le go shafatsa e megologolo, tsholofelo ya rona ke gore Rre Mpho Tsotetsi le lekoko la gagwe, ba ba tshwereng ka thata tota mo go baakanyeng seemo se sa metsi, ke gore ba tlaa fefosa tiro eo gore Gathwane le ene a tlhologelelwe, e bile a kganye.

Mr Speaker, ke tsaya sebaka se go neela Tona Serame kagiso e e fetang tlhaloganyo ya motho ka go gakologelwa go latlhelela banalebogole sengwenyana.
Le wena mma e re dipula tsa letlhogonolo di na ka medupe o rothegelwe ke lerothodi la tshegofatso.

Mr Speaker, kanamiso ya moalo wa metsi fa e ka goroga mo bonamelong jwa thota e ya ga Majaalela, bo tshwana le kwa Machana, Gatuma, Gatampa, Motsentse le kwa Tauekaname, ke ka bona boroko ka gore Motlotlegi Mokhanselara Mooketsane o ka fokotsa go ntshwenya thata ka dikgang tse tsa metsi le lenyora la morafe o. Mr Speaker, bogodu jwa leruo e santse e le kgwetlho mo kgaolong.
Segolo jang o leba kwa Mogojogojo le dithota tse di mabapi.

Thapelo e tona Mr Speaker, ya ga Kgosi Seboko kwa Mogojogojo ke go bona Tona Mmusi a re akanyeditse ka thulaganyo e ya Kgomokhumo ka go supagetse gore e ne ya ntsha maduo fela thata mo lebakeng le le fetileng.

Kana Mr Speaker, fa nka bua ke bo ke sa bue ka Gasita, Lerolwane, Segwagwa, ke bo ke sa tsenye dikgang tse tsa bogodu jwa leruo, ke tlaabo ke iphuditse.
Mr Speaker, go ne go batlile Tona Mmusi a re gopola thata ka go oketsa sepodise sa sephiri, se e leng sa leruo kwa dithoteng tse di akaretsang kwa bo Dintšana, Ditojana, Gasekitla, Mmampule, Gasegwaragwara, jalojalo.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, re tlhologeletswe go bona loago le le botoka la Molapowabojang mme Kabo e ya Madi ya monongwaga, e re lometse kgothatso fela e e masisi.
Mr Speaker, motse wa Molapowabojang o tlhoka tsoseletso mo marakanamantsing a diemo tsa one, boatlhamo le kgolo ya motse o tlhokana thata le metswedi ya phetlhakhumo mme di kgorelediwa segolo bogolo ke go tlhoka ditsela le tiego e e seng kana ka sepe ya kabo ditsha.

Mr Speaker, ga gona moeteledipele ope fela yo o ka nnang mo kagisong a eteletse pele diemo tse di tshwanang le tse ke di eteletseng pele kwa Molapowabojang.
Mr Speaker, ke ntse ka tsholofelo, ke solofetse gore jaaka bo Tona ba ntse ba akanya jaana, lenko le la ditlhabologo le tlaa fokela ntlheng ya Kgotla ya ga Kgosi Letshabo.

Banni ba kwa Katle le Block 8 ba kgobogile mangole.

Kana metsi ga a goroge sentle kwa go bone.

Tokafalo ya metsi ba e utlwalela fela ka ba bangwe mme Tona Mzwinila ga a ka rapelesega ruri, a rapelesega, re tlaa nna mo bontleng mme le ene o tlaa ratwa ke Modimo le tšhaba ya Mmathethe-Molapowabojang.
Mr Speaker, pego ena ya madi e re lometse meno le tsholofelo.

Ke sone se o bonang re opela “motse o re o tlhologeletsweng, re se re o bona pejana, monateng, monateng ka pela.” Mr Speaker, go tlaa nna monate.

E re ka Tona a utlwetse, le ene a bone sengwenyana se se kgotsofatsang, ke na le tsholofelo ya gore selelo sa barutabana sa borukutlhi se tlaa arabiwa ka ponetelele go fokotsa lefifi le magodu ba iphitlhang ka lone.
Mr Speaker, Lephata la Botsogo le abetswe go utlwala, le fa re itse gore dikgwetlho tsa lone di feta motlhaba wa lewatle.

Seemo sa kokelwana ya Molapowabojang ga se njese monate gotlhelele mme go tshwanetse gore Lephata la Botsogo le tsholetse mosepele, bogolo re atolose ditirelo tsa rona gone koo.
Dilo tse tsotlhe Mr Speaker, ga re ka di tsibogela sentle, di ka kgothatsa ngwana wa kwa Slapong, le mogwebi wa kwa Sbokeng gore e re ba tsena mo dikoloing ba letsa diwelese tsa bone, ba tobetse sefela se sa Sione ba re “motse o re o tlhologeletsweng re se re o bona pejana,” motse o ba raya Molapowabojang.
Mr Speaker, go lebanye, go siame e bile go molemo gore re lemoge tiro e ntle e Lephata la Thuto go tswa kwa Moding le e dirang kwa sekoleng sa Mogale Community Junior Secondary School, kwa motseng wa Maokane.
Mr Speaker, ke kgobogile mangole, ke suga hutshe mo go Morwa Molao, “kante Jeso o ne a ntse a mpona fa ke lela jwale.” Ke bua jaana Mr Speaker, mo lebakeng le le khutshwane re aga matlo a borutelo a le six, matlo a boroko a le 20, le boroko jwa bana; hostel blocks di le pedi tse di tlaa simololang ka kgwedi ya Moranang, le go oketsa dikantoro tsa bodiredi.

Mr Speaker, motse wa Maokane o tshwanetse go tlisa ditebogo mo go Tona Molao ka gore thuto ke yone lefika le tsotlhe di agelwang mo go lone.
Mr Speaker, selelo sa tsela ya Maokane-Jwaneng ga se kitla se kgaotsa mme e bile tšhaba ya Maokane e eteletswe pele ke Kgosi Banyaditse le Motlotlegi Mokhanselara Kgetsi, ga e kitla e e swa lentswe go fitlhela tsela e e dirwa.

Maiteko a go intsha mo lehumeng ga a tswe maduo gotlhelele ka gore ga gona se se ba kopanyang kana se ba golaganya le mmaraka wa temo... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Budget Honourable Dikoloti, Budget!

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) DR DIKOLOTI: Mr Speaker, e re Puso e e dira maiteko a go direla ditsela mo nakong e e thata e ya COVID-19, re ne re lebeletse ka tshepho gore lekgarapana la tsela ya Selokolela, Gasita, Lorolwane e tlaa bona letlhogonolo la go balwa le tse di dirwang.

Kgosi Mothoemang kwa Gasita; Kgosi Matlhoakgosi Matlho kwa Lorolwane le balemi-barui ba dithota tse, ba setse ba sa ntebe sentle gotlhelele Mr Speaker.
A bogolo tlhe tsela e e nne e baakanngwa kgapetsakgapetsa fela gore e se ka ya re kokonela ka fa e re kokonelang ka teng.

Kana bogolo fa go kgonega Mr Speaker, go tshelwe mmu sentle go nne le re-graveling.

Legale le fa go ntse jalo Mr Speaker, tsholofelo ya rona ga e ise e tshologe.

Motho wa ga Segokgo o tlaa tsapogelwa ke mowa wa kutlobotlhoko ka gore tsela e ga e tsamaege gotlhelele.
Mr Speaker, e re le ntswa tsela e e le magokaganya ya metse le ditlamelo, difetlhakhumo le mmaraka, e mo seemong fela se se sa nnang sentle.

Kgosi Dipuo le Motlotlegi Naolakgosi kwa Gasegwagwa ba mo selelong sa tsela e e kgoreletsang tswelelopele ya kgolo ya motse wa Gasegwagwa.

Tsela e e tumile thata ka Tshweneyagae-Segwagwa.

Mr Speaker, re tlhaloganya fela thata seemo sa lefatshe le se se kokonetsweng ke COVID-19 mme re kopa gore leroba fa le ka tswa tlhe, a ko re gopolwe.
Mr Speaker, “motse o re o tlhologeletsweng, re se re o bona pejana, le fa maranyana a sale pele, go setlhafile o a kganya, monateng, monateng ka pela.” Go tlaabo go fosegile Mr Speaker, fa ke ka se ke ke tsibogele tsetlana ya bo 32, ke tlhalose gore lenko la ditlhabololo re a le utlwa, mosi wa teng o fokela ntlheng ya Mmathethe- Molapowabojang.

Ke gone mo o bonang re bina sefela se sa Sione jaana.
Ke tlaabo ke leofetse Mmankwete kwa Digawana, Rre Sekoba wa kwa Maokane, Mmatau kwa Molapowabojang, Moruti Phadima kwa Magoriapitse le Ranamane kwa Kwelepane fa ke ka se ke ke phophothe Tona Serame legetla ka maiteko a a dirileng go okeletsa bagodi madi a bone.

Mr Speaker, Tona ga a felela fela foo, o okeleditse le banalebogole, dikomiti tsa ditlhabololo tsa metse, batlhoki le bagaka ba ntwa ya lefatshe ya bobedi.

Modimo o go dire sengwe tlhe Morolong.


Mr Speaker, mo tsetlaneng ya bo 76, o toloka tlhabatshentlha e le go boloka tšhaba ya Botswana.

Go a galalela go bona Tautona a tsaya kgato e tona e Mr Speaker, go supa tota gore o kgathala ka matshelo a Batswana go gaisa sengwe le sengwe.

Re ne re sena botshelo ntleng le tshwetso e e thata e. Re bua jaaka Peter mo go Ditiro 3:6, ra re gauta le selefera ga re na tsone, se re nang le sone Motlotlegi Tautona, ke tlhopho, re tlaa go fa yone.
Jaaka re bua jaana Mr Speaker, melemo e teng mo fatsheng je, selo se se neng se se motlhofo fa re simolola.

Re eme ka batho fela go tla go kenta.

Mo kgweding e ya February, re solofetse batho ba ka tshwara 347 663 gore ba tle go tsaya mokento o wa tlaleletso.

Mr Speaker, tshenyetso-setšhaba ke yone tota pheretlha mo kagisong, thokgano le tlhabololo ya sika loo motho, mme e tshwanetse ya kgwelwa mathe.
Ntwa kgatlhanong le letimone le, e batla gore re e tshwaraganele, go se ka ga nna le nna ga di nkame wa yone, re nne meno a tshwene makitla.

Mr Speaker, mo nakong e khutshwane, lefatshe la rona le tlaabo le tsena mo tirong ya mokatakata ya palo batho.

Lephata la dipalopalo le eme sejaro go dira tiro e ka botswerere le bonokopila jwa maemo a ntlha.
Tiro e Mr Speaker, ke yone e e tlaa re gakololang le go re thusa go tsaya ditshwetso le go dira melao kana ditsamaiso le ditlhabololo tsa lefatshe, ka bokhutshwane.

Mr Speaker, census ke yone ee gadikang ditlogamaano tsa lefatshe.
Ke tsaya sebaka se ke rotloetse banni ba Mmathethe-Molapowabojang le Batswana ka kakaretso gore ba amogele bodiredi jo go ba bala, ba tsamaya ka motlhodithero o o reng “mpale, ke botlhokwa.” Mr Speaker, re ne re ka se ke re tsamaise lefatshe sentle go sa balwa batho, mme re rotloetsa Tona Serame le Dr Nguni gore kgothalang betsho, re eme le lona mo tirong e. Mr Speaker, fa ke tsamaela go digela, ke kopa o mphe tshono e gape gore ke rotloetse Batswana khutlong tse nne tsa lefatshe, gore jaaka re bua mo gompieno jaana, re na le bokete fela jwa melemo e ka tshwara three million e e leng gore e eme ka rona gore re tle go kenta.
Fa o lebelela molemo wa Pfizer, re na le one o ka tshwara 1.5 million, re na le Modena e feta 600 000.

Re na le molemo wa Johnson o feta 600 000, wa Covaxine e ka tshwara 100 000, re na gape le wa Sinovac o fetile 60 000.

Melemo e e tlhoka rona gore re atumele kwa ba botsogo ba leng teng gore re kgone go babalesega … (Interruptions) … molemo o kgone go re sala morago.

Mr Speaker, kante Jesu o ne a ntse a mpona fa ke lela jwale ka ditlhabololo tsa kgaolo e ya Mmathethe- Molapowabojang.
A mpitsa a re tla go nna o tla o fole matswalo.

Ke tlaa fola Mr Speaker.

Ga go ise go wele, 14 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) mme tsholofelo e a bonala, marangnyana a a bonala, ke sone re o utlwang re opela sefela sa Sione re re, ‘motse o re o tlhologeletsweng, setse re o bona pejana.

Le fa marangnyana a sa le pele, o tlhagile, o akganya.’ MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: On a point of clarification.
Thank you very much Mr Speaker, thank you Motlotlegi Dikoloti.

Motlotlegi, ke ne ke batla go botsa ka yone ya melemo jaaka o ntse o re e tlhalosetsa ka melemo.

Kana ngwaga o o fetileng go kile ga nna le mabarebare mo Ntlong e le go sele kwa Facebook go buiwa gore go jelwe madi, ga go na melemo e e ordered, le bua dithamakgorwana fela.
Jaanong ke ne ke batla gore o e konotelele kgang e gore ba ba neng ba ntse ba na le pelaelo ya gore gongwe ga go a tsamaya sentle, ba itse gore melemo e teng, e rekilwe jaaka gone go solofeditswe.

Ke a leboga Honourable Dikoloti.

DR DIKOLOTI: Nte ke go leboge thata Motlotlegi Mapalamente wa Gaborone Central.

Dikgang tseo motlotlegi o a itse gore re ne re di tshwere, re tsepamesitse matlho a rona mo ketapeleng e e leng gore re e tshwere.
Dikgang tse tsa bo nka e nesa, ga se tse di tshwanetseng go go hakgamatsa.

O a itse thata gore re ne re tshwere bothata re tla ka orders tse go tweng tlisa kwano ke tlaa go neela molemo mo bekeng, mme ra tsepama mo boammaaruring, re tsweletse ka go tshepha lefoko la Modimo ka gore fa o direla dilo mo boammaaruring, mo pontsheng, ruri molemo o tlaa go sala morago.

Ka a le kalo Mr Speaker, ke ema nokeng Tshutiso e ya ga Tona Serame.

Ke e ema ka full force.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR SPEAKER: The Minister is done.

MINISTER OF INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AND COOPERATION (DR KWAPE): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Le nna ke dumedise Batlotlegi mo Ntlong e e tlotlegang e.Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke biditse kakgelo ya me setlhogo sa gore ‘re ya pele ka tsholofelo.’ Ke batla go akgela jaana ke tletse tsholofelo Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ka gore fa sebeelo se gatlhere, re a se lebogela.
Ga e re fa se gatlhere, re bo re re ga se na sepe, jaaka bangwe ba bakaulengwe ba rona.

Le gale ga re ka ke ra ba tshwaya phoso e re sebeelo se gatlhere, kana ke bue ka puo ya Seesemane ke re when a glass is half full, bone ba bo ba re it is half empty, ga ke ka ke ka ba tshwaya phoso.

Kana e kile ya re nako jaana Motlotlegi Dikoloti a ntse a bua …(Silence)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le boile?

MR SPEAKER: Ee, fa o sale o re o umaka se Honourable Dikoloti a se buileng, ba bo ba go kgaola.
…Silence… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Dr Kwape.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, re na le bothata jwa network, ga ke itse gore a ke rona ka kwano fela.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ke rotlhe re nang le bothata.

MR SPEAKER: At least ke a go utlwa Vice President (VP), Honourable Kwape ga ke mo utlwe, ga ke mmone.

DR KWAPE: Ke boile mongwame.


Nnyaa, ke ne ke re ke reye Tona Serame a bone bogolo jang ba ba mo phophothang legetla, e re kwa bofelong jwa seele, ba bo ba mo tlhobosa, re bantle mme ga re bantle rotlhe.

Le fa ba go raya jalo, o gakologelwe puo nngwe ke e, e e buang ka ntsu.

Gatwe ntsu e kile ya pagangwa ke legakabe mo magetleng, jaanong ke fa e ipotsa gore legakabe le ke eng le mpagame mo magetleng, ya bo e fofela kwa godimo.
Gatwe e rile golo goo thota, legakabe le la letlweretlwere le, la palelwa ke go hema la wela kwa tlase.

E ne e le kgakololo fela Honourable Serame.

Pele ga ke tsena mo dikgannyeng, mme ke lebogise Motlotlegi Serame gore e bo e le ene mme wa ntlha go nna Tona ya madi.

E se fela ka gore ke mme, e le gore o na le tsotlhe tse di tlhokafalang gore a bo a le mo maemong ao.

Ke bo ke akgole ba ba fetileng foo pele ga gagwe; bo rre ba ba neng ba le mo maemong ao gore ba dirile tiro ya bone ka bonokopila.
Ke digele ka gore, re na le tsholofelo e e tletseng gore ledi la rona le mabolokelo a lone a mo diatleng tse dintle.

Honourable Reatile o ratile go bua boammaaruri, a bua ka fa ditlhabololo di tlhotlhwang ka teng.

O buile ka tebelopele ya setšhaba, development plan le budget.

Yone tebelopele ya setšhaba eo le development plan, ke yone e e reng re ya kwa bathong, re bo re raya batho re re, fa re lebeletse thulaganyo e re le phathi, ke yone e re akanyang gore re tlaa le gorosa ka yone, re bo re ithekisa.
Jaanong go a gakgamatsa gore batlotlegi ga ba itse gore re na le manifesto o o tlileng mo lefatsheng la 15 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Botswana pele ga wa bone, ka gore wa bone e bile ba ne ba o kwadisa kwa lefatsheng la Aferika Borwa, wa bo wa kalela mo phefong.

Dilo tse ba tshwanetse gore ba di itse, fa e le gore ga ba na manifesto wa Botswana Democratic Party (BDP), ba re botse re tlaa ba o fa mahala.
Gore e re le fa ba kopa (copy), ba dire reference, honourable wa kwa Sefhare-Ramokgonami, o a itse gore to plagiarise ke selo se se molato mo go rona ba ditlhotlhomiso.

Honourable Molao o le file dintlha tse di tswang mo manifesto wa rona, a le tlhalosetsa gore dilo tse ga re di tseye mo go lona.

Fa e le sengwe, ke lona le di tsayang mo go rona ka gore wa rona manifesto o sale o dule.

Honourable Saleshando o buile ka mo ke go bitsang ka puo ya seesemane ke re wish list.
O buile dilo di le lesome, but ga go na gope mo wish list ya gagwe e a neng a bua ka yone, fa a buileng gore mme dilo tse di lesome tse, ka tebo ya gagwe ya matlho, di tsamaya fa kae.

O buile ka bo mining value chains, research and development, ke swa go bala fela, mme o paletswe ke gore mo go yone wish list eo, a bue gore go kgonagala eng, kae, mme ga se tiro ya gagwe, kana tiro ya gagwe e e tona ke go ganetsa.
Ke mang yo o neng a akanya gore e tlaare gompieno Tona Serame a bo a re neela kgaoganyo ya madi?

Re dirilwe grey listing, we were blacklisted, re fetile ka Motion of No Confidence, jaanong ke thulaganyo fela e e gakgamatsang gore mo gompienong, re dule mo grey list, ra tswa mo blacklist, melemo e teng, Minister o tlisa budget e e rokotsang mathe.
Golo moo re tshwanetse gore jaanong re pitikolole mo go neng go tlhobosiwa Puso re re, it is a Motion of Confidence on this Government, ka gore dilo tsotlhe tse e rileng e tlaa di dira, e di dirile ka nako.

Ke gakgametse thata le fa e le Honourable Keorapetse a ne a tsenelela batho ba bua, a sa bue ka BCL gore go tsamaya fa kae.

Go mo dipegong tsa dipampiri gore mokoti wa BCL, go ne go bewa dipampiri monwana gore o bulwe.
Ke sone se re emang re ntshitse phega re re, we must call for a Motion of Confidence in this Government.

A re phepa?

Nnyaa ga re phepa.

Kana re batho, re amogela tse e nnileng dikgwetlho mo go tsamayeng ga rona ga go tsamaisa Puso.

A e ka tswa e le go tlhoka ditiro ga batho, go tlhoka go diragatsa dilo ka nako, kana e ka tswa e le tshenyetso-setšhaba.

Dilo tseo re a di amogela gore di teng, mme re itlamile gore dilo tseo tsotlhe re batla gore re di fenye.
Ga re boke mathata re bo re tsenya tlhogo mo motlhabeng jaaka mmantšhe.

Re lebagana le tsone matlho a phage a lebagane.

Mo tshenyetsong-setšhaba, re romela molaetsa o o sa pheleeng o o reng, fa e le gore o senyetsa setšhaba, itse gore fa o se senyetsa gompieno, o tlaa duela morago, mme go tlaa se ke go nne sentle.

E bile ke gatelela gore mo go yone ya tshenyetso-setšhaba, ke yone tota e e tlhokang gore re fetole ka fa re akanyang ka teng ka gore tshenyetso-setšhaba ga e duele.
Ke batla go feta ka tseo jaanong ke tsepame mo go tse Tona Serame a di re beileng pele.

Pele ke batla go mo leboga Mr Speaker, gore a bo a rile re ya go lebelela mo go ageng, mo dikagong.

A re re ya go dirisa dikete tsa didikadike di le tharo mo ditseleng.

Fa o tsamaya mo toropong ya Gaborone, o bona gore jaanong dikoloi di ya go huhumela, go bo go sena mosuke.

Ga ba bue ka dilo tseo tse di tsweletseng.

Tsela ya go tswa kwa Otse go ya Kanye e shafaditswe.
Tona Serame o ne a bua ka gore tsela e e yang Francistown e tswa kwa Ramatlabama, e tlaa dirwa ditokitoki jaana fa madi a letla, e atolosiwa gore dikoloi di tsamaye di le pedi di lebile kwa.

Le Mmathethe-Bray jaaka Motlotlegi Dikoloti a ntse a re e mo tlhatswitse ngati, e a agiwa.

Ke nankola dilo tseo fela, mme ke re mo go tsone ditiro tseo, ka gore la re ga re nke re bua gore go tlaa dirwa ditiro, ditiro di ya go dirwa koo.

Tsholofelo Tona ke gore Batswana ba tlaa oba lebogo, ba bo ba tshele.
Mo go phatlalatseng metlakase, ke leboga thata gore metse ka bontsi ke balela wa Tsonyane o o senang motlakase, le wa Gamae, le go atolosa motlakase kwa o seyong teng, di tlaa elwa tlhoko.

Kana re batla go rudisa itsholelo ka dikitso tsa maranyane tse di tsamaelanang le dingwaga tsa segompieno.
Ke batla go tshwaela mo go reng, fa re aga ditsela, bogolo jang ke e fa tsela yone e e tshwanang le ya Mmathethe-Bray, re nne re lebelela gore dikgono tseo le fa di sa tsene mo kilometres tse di lesome kana di feta, a go dirwe kilometres tse di lesome tse di letlelesegang mo molaong, gore re atumetse batho ditlamelo tse di tshwanang le tsa ditsela.

Mo go tsa temothuo Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke batla gore ke lebogele thata se se diragalang kwa Selebi Phikwe.
Go lengwa ga dinamune, mme e bile go tsepame ka gore Honourable Saleshando o na le go bua gore ga re nke re bua dipalo, gatwe ditiro di le sekete.

O gakologelwe mo ipapatsong ya rona, e rile lona le re 100, 000 jobs, rona ga re a rialo, re rile le go feta 100, 000 jobs.

Sebe sa phiri fela ke gore bolwetse jo ga bo a ka jwa re ema sentle, mme maikaelelo a rona ke go boela mo tseleng gore re tswelele re direle Batswana ditiro.
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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Mo go ya metsi, ke lebogile thata Tona gore o buile gore metsi a a goroga kwa metseng.

Kwa Kanye a gorogile, sebe sa phiri fela ke gore moalo o o phatlalatsang metsi ke one o o onetseng.
Ke re e re go ntse go kgaoganngwa madi Tona Mzwinila, o gakologelwe gore o begile gore thulaganyo ya go sekaseka e weditswe, jaanong ke gore Bangwaketse ba ye go neelwa metsi, a se ka a felela mo mmung.

Le gone kwa Lephateng la Temothuo, ke lebogile gore Integrated Support Programme for Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD), Livestock Management and Infrastructure Development (LIMID) le Ipelegeng, di ya go baakanngwa gore di nne le boboloka, di ntshe maduo a a botoka.
Ke tsone dilo tse re di batlang mo pegong ya madi gore a se ka a tsena ka motlhobodika.

O buile mma wa re golo mo e leng gore tota ke gone go re emisitseng thata, ke go tlhoka go dira ditiro ka nako.

Potso e ka botswa gore, rona re le baemedi ba batho, tiro e re e dirang gore dilo di dirwe ka nako, ke eng?

Kana re tla fela mo Palamenteng re tla go bua, fa di dirwa ditlhabololo kwa dikgaolong tsa rona, re tsaya dikgato dife gore ditiro di kgone go dirwa ka bonako?
Kwa Kanye mma, ke tlaa fa sekai ka ditsela tse di ntseng di dirwa ka dipolwana (paving) ka gore dingwe tse di dirilweng ke banana, ya Tsotswe le ya goora Mongala di dirilwe ka nako.

Maswabi ke gore e ya kgopho ya metsi a a leswe, e re beile ka fa mosing.

Tsholofelo ke gore ba lephata la ga Rre Mzwinila, ba ele tlhoko dilo tse gore di dirwe ka nako le ka madi a a beilweng.
Mma, re leboga thata gape gore o re begetse gore go ya go dirwa thulaganyo ya gore go nne le kwadiso golo go le gongwefela mo mananeong a Puso gore ba bangwe ba se ka ba tseka, ka gore bangwe ba a tseka ba bo ba tlhaedisa ba bangwe.

Re netefatse gore dilo tse tsotlhe fa di dirwa, re babalela madi a Puso a a senyegang fa ditiro di dirwa.

Ke fetela kwa go e o neng o bua ka yone Motlotlegi Tona, ya go baakanya maphata a Puso.

Re a e amogela.
Re a e amogela.

Ke farologana le Honourable Gobotswang, yo a neng a re kgotsana re tlhoka ministry di supa fela.

O a nkgakgamatsa ka gore ke mmatlisisi, ka Sekgoa he did not make his case and then make his conclusions tsa gore ke eng a rile jalo, a re di nne supa fela.

Tota ga ke mo tshwae phoso, kana ga a ise a ko a buse, se a se itseng fela ke go ganetsa.
Makgotla a Puso a a ikemetseng ka nosi, le one ke dumalana le wena gore a tshwanetse go lebelelwa gore a a siametse jaaka fa a ne a dirwa, makgotla a tshwana le CEDA le Local Enterprises Agency (LEA).

Batho gatwe ba ye go dira proposals kwa LEA, go tswa foo ba ya kwa CEDA, fa ba tsena kwa CEDA gatwe ba baakanye.
Gongwe go ne go ka nna kaone gore, maphata a mabedi a a nne golo go le gongwefela, gore tiro e diragale motlhofo batho madi a o neng o ntsha thulaganyo tse dintšha tsa gore ba a bone motlhofo ka merokotso e e kwa tlase, e nne motlhofo.

Ke tsone dilo tse re di eletsang, e bile re tlaa go ema nokeng fa o tla ka Ditshutiso tseo.
Agricultural Research and Development Institution (NARDI) e e kopanyang National Food Technology Research Centre (NFTRC) kwa ke kileng ka bereka teng, MVL le Department of Agricultural Research (DAR) le tsone di kopane.

Kopo fela ke gore, a thulaganyo e e dirwe ka bonako, ka gore go raya gore mo gompienong ga go na thulaganyo e e tsepameng jaanong bodiredi bo akabetse fela ka gore ga bo itse gore go tlaa tla eng kwa go bone.
E nngwe Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, e ke e amogelang ka diatla tsoopedi ke Tshutiso e Motlotlegi Tona a buileng ka yone ya gore re ya go lebelela molao o wa pensions kana Retirement Fund Act.

Batswana ba a sokola, bogolo jang ba ba berekileng ba ba nang le madi a a kwa mabeelong a pensions.

E re o lebelela mma, o lebelele gore go nne bofefo o etse jaaka maloba re ne re tlisitse molao ka bofefo, jwa ga majanka le waere mo Palamenteng, gore o fete.
Fa o lebelela dipampiri gompieno nnyaa, ke bo in the matter between fela, go rekisiwa matlo a batho.

Kana fa a rekisiwa jaana, go raya gore ba boela kwa go bo mmaboipelego.

Ke kopo ya me Motlotlegi Tona gore e e leke ka bojotlhe ka ke go itse o le maoto a bofefo Morolong gore e diragale ka bonako.

E nngwe e ke batlang go tshwaela mo go yone mo pegong ya gago mma ke gore, a go kaone gore bodiredi bo tsene mo dikgwebong.

A re e lebeleleng sentle, re se ka ra tloga ra itlhaba ka thipa mpeng.
Kgotsana nako e e kwa morago e e neng e akanngwa, go ne go siame, mme itemogelo ya rona ke gore selo se se diphatsa kgotsa ke sone se se dirang gore ditiro di bo di sa diragadiwe ka nako e re e beileng gore di diragale ka yone.

E nngwe ke e o neng o re e tshwanetse gore e tsenngwe leitlho, ya scarce skills.

Motho ka puo ya Seesemane o ka ipotsa gore, who qualifies for it?

Have we done a skills audit?


Se ke se itseng ke gore, banana bogolo jang ba dibalamakgolo le Information Technology (IT) Engineering ba mo mebileng.

Ela tlhoko mma ntlha e ka gore, madi a a ka bolokwang go duelwa batho e se gore ba a tlhokwa ka gore bontsi bo mo mebileng, a 17 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) somarelwe gore re tle re bone gore re ka dira jang go thusa ba ba mo mebileng.
Ke batla go bua ke ntshitse phega gore, ke na le ba ba kwa mebileng.

Fa e le gore batho ba ba rutilweng ba teng, ga go tlhokafale gore motho a bo a duelwa scarce skill.

Ka boitumelo ke batla gore ke leboge thata gore, o begile mo pegong ya gago gore tadium sa Kanye se tlaa nna teng, nna le Motlotlegi Letsholo re menyenyo fela.

Re a go netefaletsa gore re tlaa se dirisa, bana ba rona ba ba lebelo, yo mongwe o ne a tla ka gauta kwa, ba tlaa iphuthulolela maoto teng.
Ke lebogela gape le e o neng o e bua o re barutabana ba le dikete tse tharo, ba tlaa hirwa e le phiro ya sennelaruri.

A go lebelelwe mo go bone ba ba ntseng ba le temporary, ba tsene mo tirong ya sennelaruri.

Kana jaanong fa ba tsene foo, ba simolola go duela pension, ba simolola go tsaya dikoloto tsa go itlhabolola mo matshelong a bone.

E mma e leng lesokololela mo go nna, ke ya patela sa Kanye.
O a itse gore nako le nako Motlotlegi Tona fa re kopana, ke tshela ke bua gore patela sa Kanye mangomo, o kare khadi ya kgotla nngwe kwa Kanye e ke ka se keng ke e bue ka leina.

O kile wa bua mogopolo mongwe o montle o ke o atlileng wa gore, re tshwaragane le ba ba ikemetseng ka bonosi kana Public Private Partnership (PPP).

Ba ba ka se agang, ba bo ba se tsamaisa, rona ra bo re duela fela madi a re itseng e le one a a tshwanetseng gore a duelwe gore molwetse a thusiwe koo.
Ba bangwe fa ba sena go dira jalo, ba sena go dira madi a bone, ba boa gape ba se busetsa kwa Pusong.

Tona Molale o atle a bue e le sekai, ka dikago tse di kileng tsa agwa kwa Kgale View, tse mo nakwaneng e khutshwanyane di neng tsa kgona go ituela.

Ke tsaya gore sebaka ke sone se Tona, re lebelele dilo tse di ntseng jalo re bone gore a re ka se ke re tlise patela sa Kanye.

Fela fa ke tsena kwa Kanye mma, potso ya ntlha e ba e mpotsang ke gore patela se kae.
Le Dikoloti ka o tlogola kwa gaNgwaketse kana ke gagabo, o setse a tshaba go ya gae ka gore fa a re o ya gae, gatwe kana ke wena o kwa Lephateng la Botsogo re neele sepatela.

Ke tsone dilo tse mma ke neng ke akanya gore ke go di lebise.

E ya decentralisation kana ka Sekgoa re ka reng decentralisation and devolution to the local authorities, ke e amogela ka atla tsoopedi Motlotlegi Tona.

A e kopane le gore le theko le thekiso e diragale koo.
E re e diragala go lebelelwe ka gore re tlaabo re dirisa mafaratlhatlha, e se ka batho ba tlhatlaganyediwa ditiro ba bangwe ba sena ditiro.

Batho ba bereka go tswa Ramokgwebana go ya Ramatlabama go se molato, e bo o kare ba bangwe ke dikopa, mme e se dikopa e le gore go na le ka fa go dirwang ka teng gore go tsekwe, mo gongwe e bile e le ga boferefere.
Jaanong se sengwe gape se ke se kopang fa go dirwa jalo ke gore, kwa dikgaolong koo re itse gore go na le National Development Plan (NDP) e e leng gore fa go dirwa District Development Plan (DDP), e tshwanetse gore e lebelele kwa NDP.

E re fa madi a tla kwa go bone, ba a dirise jaaka ba kwadile mo lenaneong la bone la ditlhabololo.
Ke ka a fa sekai; kwa Kanye kwa kgaolong e bidiwa gotwe Kgwakgwe, 1999 go sale gotwe go agwa sekole… …Silence… “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” MR SPEAKER (MR MOATLHODI): Re kopa maitshwarelo batlotlegi, bo ramaranyane ba re network ke yone e re direlang mathata, mme ke kwa pitseng ya teng.

Go tlaane go tla go tsamaya, eventually go tlaa siama.

Go raya gore fa re welwa ke seru se, Motlotlegi Tona wa tsa Mafatshe a sele ke ene a neng a le mo seraleng.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go raya gore a simolole sesha, rona ga re a mo utlwa.

DR KWAPE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke batla gore ke se ka ka simolola sesha ke digele ka gore ke ile kwa motsubong.

MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, ga o ka ke wa simolola sesha Tona, tswelela fa o neng o eme teng.

DR KWAPE: Ee rra.
DR KWAPE: Ee rra.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, sengwe se ke se lebogelang ke gore le fa re itse gore itsholelo e mo mathateng, ga re a lebala ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane, bagodi, banalebogole le ba ba tshwereng metse e bong Village Development Committees (VDCs).

Lemme ga le nke le galalwa, ke maletisi, gore e tlaare nako nngwe e bo dilo di siame, re ba okeletsa.

Re farologana le bagarona ka gore ba ne ba batla go a tshela fela ba sa itse gore kwa pele go na le eng.
Fa ke tswelela Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, go na le dilo dingwe tse di ntsenyang setlhabinyana mo ditsamaisong tse di amanang le Tona.

Gompieno mo metseng e e leng gore gatwe ke planning areas, re tlhokwa go dira dikopo tsa gore re fiwe permits tsa go aga.

Se se botlhoko ke tiego ya gore e re o kopile, o bo o sa neelwe phetolo ka bonako.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gotwe o diphoso di pedi, fa o ya go baakanya diphoso tse pedi tse, phetolo e e tlaang e bo e re o diphoso di some.

Se sengwe se se utlwisang Batswana botlhoko ke gore, fa o filwe teseletso ya go aga, e fiwa dingwaga tse pedi fela.

Go bo gotwe it has expired ka puo ya Seesemane, mme o ka tla go kopa extension ya ngwaga.

Jaanong potso ke gore a fa ke agile ntlo, it expires morago ga dingwaga tse pedi?

A e fiwa extension ya dingwaga tse pedi?


Dilo tse re tshwanetse re di lebelele kwa ntleng fa e le gore molao wa kago o fetogile, ke gone go ka tweng motho a tsise kopo sesha.

A re lebeleleng molao o ka gore o tsenya batho mo dikolotong.

O diela batho nako ya go aga.

Bomaitseanape ba rona dilo tse ba di ele tlhoko thata.

Mo dikagong tsa Puso, di a dia.

Ke gone mo go felelang go le turu gore dilo di diragale.
Re bo re tla mo Palamenteng e, re tla go supana ka menwana re re madi a a senngwa, mme tota re sa lebelela ditsamaiso tse di tshwerweng ke bodiredi.

Ke batla gape go bua ka kgang e Motlotlegi Tona wa Madi a e buileng ya ditsela kana infrastructure.

Ke bue ka metse e metona gore a re direng thulaganyo ya re diteraka tsa megobagoba, go nne le maparego a e leng gore ga di ka ke tsa a huhumela, gore di tsamaye kwa ntle ga motse.
Di patelesege go tsamaya kwa ntle ga motse gore go nne motlhofo gore fa gare ga motse fa, go tsamaye dikoloi tse di potlana.

Selo seo se ka dira gore go nne botoka thata mo metseng e metona le mo ditoropong.

Dikoloi di se ka tsa kgoromana.

Ke dumalana le Motlotlegi Reatile le Motlotlegi Dikoloti ka re legora ka tsela ya Jwaneng e e yang kwa Maokane, e feta ka Lefoko.

Fa e ka dirwa, sekgono sa teng se tlaa fetela kwa Tsonyane.
Go bo go raya gore go nna motlhofo fela, ke go tsaya fa Seherelela fale o kopanya, re bo re nna le pass way ka fa thoko.

Re bo re fokotsa mosuke mo tseleng ya Sir Seretse Khama e e tswang kwa Kanye e ya Jwaneng.

Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, go ne go na le project e e neng e tswa mo Mmankgodi e ya Jwaneng, e bo e ya kwa Morolong kwa ya World Bank.

Go na le metse e e tlodilweng, wa Betesankwe o e leng gore is only 41/2 kilometres (km) from the main road.
Jaanong project eo, ga e ise e fele.

A go lebelelwe gore motse o, o gokaganngwe le tsela ya Sir Seretse Khama ka tsela ya sekonotere jaaka e le tsamaiso.

Motse wa Seherelela o o 13 km bogolo fa gotwe ga go a dirwa sepe, go dirwe 10 km, le motse wa Pitseng kwa kgaolong ya ga Motlotlegi Gare.

Dilo fa re ka di dira, re ka itlhofofaletsa tiro fa re tsweledisa ditlhabololo kwa pele.
Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, mma e re pele fa ke ya kwa motsubong, Motlotlegi Tshere o ne a batla go latlhela legonyana tlhwara mo mafokong a me, ke mo neele sebaka.

MR SPEAKER: Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Mahalapye Bophirima, gatwe o eletsa go latlhela legonyana tlhwara.

MR TSHERE: Nnyaa, o a bo a ntlhoafaletse nkgonne Honourable Dr Kwape, ke ne ke didimetse, ke mo utlwile.

Ke a leboga.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, e ne e le nna Mr Speaker.

DR KWAPE: Neela malome.


MR LESEDI: Point of clarification.

Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker.

Mma ke leboge Tona.

Tota potso e, ke ne ke eleditse go e mmotsa fa moragonyana, fa a ne a bua ka fa ditlhabololo di dirwang ka teng, a dumalana le Motlotlegi Reatile, mme e kete o dumela gore go ka dirisiwa manifesto.

Kgang e a e tlhatswe sentle, Batswana ba mo reeditse gore a ditlhabololo di dirwa ka manifesto wa Botswana Democratic Party (BDP)?

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: Motlotlegi rraetsho Tona, e tlhatswe.

DR KWAPE: Malome o nkutlwile ka tsa ga morakile.

Ke ne ke supa thulaganyo ya ditlhabololo.

Ke bo ke re fa re lebeletse thulaganyo ya ditlhabololo, e e dirilweng ke Batswana e sa dirwa ke party, re le diphathi fa re ipapatsa, re tla ka manifesto tse e leng gore ra re re ya go diragatsa jang lenaane la ditlhabololo la lefatshe jaaka Vision 2036 le National Development Plan (NDP).
Jaanong ka re ne re ithekisa, ka ga nke le bala, ke tlaa le neela manifesto mahala loo.

Le bale gore wa Domkrag o o tsileng pele ga wa lona lotlhe, o ne o tshotse tsotlhe tse re reng re a di dira.

Ga re kopele ope, fa e le sengwe, ya lona ke yone e neng e kopa dilo tsotlhe.

Ke tsaya gore malome o nkutlwile.

Fa ke digela Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, jaaka ke buile kwa tshimologong ke re setlhogo sa me ke gore re a pele ka tsholofelo, ke fetse ka tsholofelo.
Tsholofelo ya me ke gore, itsholelo e simolola go rula kwa e neng e ntse e le teng.

Diteemane tsa rona di a rekwa.

Dipalo di supiwa letsatsi le letsatsi gore diteemane tsa rona di a rekwa.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) setšhaba, a a runyarunya, a tlaa boela kwa a neng a le teng.
Jaanong ga ke itse gore dikgang tsa ba ba re nang le bone mo Palamenteng, ba ba re ganetsang, e tlaa nna eng.

E ntse e le dikgang... MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, elucidation called for by Honourable Member for Kanye North.

DR KWAPE: Ke a mo neela.

MR LETSHOLO: Point of elucidation.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Tona, ka re tshwaraganetse bothata jwa dikgaolo tsa rona mmogo, tota e le kgaolo e nngwefela, a tlhalose kgang ya lenyora la Gangwaketse, o e bona jang fa o labile?
Gakere setshwarwa ke ntša pedi ga se thata, a e lomaganye le mafoko a Tona a a builweng, le tse di ntseng di diragala tsa dikgang tsa metsi segolobogolo mo kgaolong ya rona.

DR KWAPE: Ee rra, Motlotlegi Letsholo ga a ake re legora, tota ga re legora re mpa.

Kgang e ya lenyora rra, e teng.

Tota boammaaruri ke gore metsi go tswa Bokone gone kwa gae a a goroga, mathata ke gore a felela mo mmung.
Motlotlegi Mzwinila o ne a rile go dirilwe ditshekatsheko dingwe tsa gore moalo o baakanngwa jang gore mafelo a tshwana le a Kgwatlheng, kwa godimo kwa kgaolong ya Mmatshitswane kwa metsi a sa kgoneng go tlhatlogela teng le kwa Ntsweng kwa o tswang teng Motlotlegi Letsholo le kwa ga Mahikana kwa metsi a sa kgoneng go goroga teng, moalo o o tlile ka gore gatwe midi e kabile dipompo tse di tsamaisang metsi.

Moalo o onetse.
Moalo o onetse.

Ke tsaya gore e tlaa re fa Motlotlegi Mzwinila a tla go re fa pego ya gagwe ya lephata, o tlaa tla a ama dintlha tse gore ya Kanye thulaganyo ya gore moalo o tlhabololwe e tlaa diragala leng ka gore le yone kgopho ya metsi a a letswe ga e ka ke ya diragala go sena metsi.

Jaanong ke kopa gore e fefogelwe mme ke a itse ka gore dinako tsotlhe re a bo re tshwaraganetse tiro e Motlotlegi Letsholo jaaka re tshwaraganetse ya stadium le sepatela gore dilo tse di diragale ka bonako.
Re na le tshepho le tumelo jaaka ke buile gore re na le tsholofelo e ntle le go ya kwa pele gore Puso e nna le wena re e emetseng e a reetsa; e tsebe theri, e tlaa re utlwa mme e tlaa reetsa dilelo tsa rona.

Ke ne ke wetsa Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke re mabeelo a simolotse go phophoma.
Ke batla go gakolola batlotlegi, bogolo jang ba ba ka kwa ga letshitshi la Palamente gore re ya go a kokotletsa re a kokotleletsa gore e re re a tlhoka e le makatadimetšhe jaaka re ne re a tlhoka maloba, re a dirise.

E seng gotwe re a dirise e re fa re a dirisa re bo re supiwa ka monwana.

Ga ke batle go ya lololo Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Ke leboga Tona Serame go tswa boteng jwa pelo ya me e bile ke batla go phophotha letsogo ka gore le mo pading ya gagwe ya pego e ya madi e, o ne a sa bale a goga dipampiri jaana, nnyaa, o ne a beile maranyane a bala a tsepamisitse matlho fela kwa; selo o kare o se ntsha mentally.

Ke ema go le kalo.

MR SPEAKER: Re a leboga Motlotlegi Rraarona Tona wa tsa Mafatshe a Sele le Tirisanyo ya Mafatshe.
Ga re ise re amogele maina go tloga kwa go Rraarona Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Ghanzi South yo e bileng e le ene moletsa seme wa diphathi tsa kganetso.

Go raya gore re a go tswelela go bua Motlotlegi Rraarona Tona wa Kgokaganyo le Kago ya Matlo e bile e le ene Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Goodhope-Mabule, Honourable Molale.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure.


MR SPEAKER: Procedure, lantlha ke utlwile lentswe la ga Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Gaborone North, followed by the Chief Whip; Honourable Balopi.

MR BALOPI: Procedure.

Mr Speaker, ke ka neela Chief Whip pele ka gore ke ene moeteledipele wa me; ke tlaa bua fa a fetsa go bua.

Ke tsaya gore gongwe it is the same procedure e ke batlang go bua ka yone.

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Malwelwe-Lephephe.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Letlhakeng-Lephephe.


MR SPEAKER: Letlhakeng-Lephephe, my Lord, Honourable Kablay.

MR KABLAY: Ke ne ke re o ntlodile Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Ga ke a go tlola.

Morago ga ga Honourable Kwape ke Honourable Molale, followed by Honourable Balopi and then Honourable Kablay ke number 10, followed by Honourable Letsholo jalojalo.

Until and unless lona le ka buisanya ka gore wena o mogokaganyimogolo.
O ka buisanya le bakaulengwe ba gago, le bo le mpolelela gore le wela fa kae, ke tlaa le bitsa ka fa le tlaabong le dirile thulaganyo sešha ka teng batsadi ba me.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR KABLAY: Nnyaa, e siame sir, a re tswelele.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much Honourable Member.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke ka bua sir?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister Molale... oh!

Sorry, sorry, Honourable Balopi.


MR BALOPI: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Honourable Kablay o siame o tlaa tsena pele ga me ka gore re ne re dumalane gore ke tlaa tsena fa Rre Kwape a tswang teng.

Se ke neng ke batla go se itse Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente ke gore kante go ne go sena tumalano ntswa e ne e le tumalano ya go buisanya ga rona gore go tlaa nne go tsena ba phathi e e busang ba le babedi go bo go tsena wa kganetso?
Le fa e le gore ga ba a kwala maina, a ga go molemo gore o ba neele sebaka sone seo ka gore ke dumela gore go ka siama fa go ntse jalo ka gore go kgweleaganya ga bone kwa morago kana go kgweleaganya ga rona kwa pele ga ke bone go siametse Ntlo e ka gore re e tlhakanetse?

Ke ne ke kopa fela e le potso e le kakgelo e bile e le kopo gore gongwe re tswelele re dire jalo, ba tlise maina jaaka ba tlhola ba tsholetsa diatla.

MR SPEAKER: Ke go utlwile Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Gaborone Bokone.
Jaanong ka go tlhoka lesego, fa ba kganetso ba sa tlisa maina, ke ya go ketefalelwa gore ke ya go bitsa mang ke sa bitse mang.

Honourable Kablay o tlisitse maina a lona mo go ntirelang tiro motlhofo nna le mongwame Motlotlegi the substantive Speaker of the House.

Re latela maina a fela jaaka a ntse mme fela jaaka e kare re tsweletse, ba kganetso ba lere maina, re tlaabo re ba bitsa.

Ke tshwanelo ya bone; they are Honourable Members of this House and they have equal rights fela jaaka mongwe le mongwe.
Fa ba tlisitse maina, re tlaa ba bitsa.

Ntle le moo, go ya go tswelela Honourable Molale.

Honourable Minister Molale.

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE) Procedure Mr Speaker.

Nnyaa, kana ke gore ntlha e e buiwang ke Rre Balopi e botlhokwa, ga re gane gore ga ba a tlisa maina.

Se re se batlang ke gore e se ka ya re kgabagare ba tlisa maina ba bo ba tla ba ngongorega (complain) ba batla go tlhomagana ba re go bue bone fela ka gore ba ntse ba sa bue.
Fa a re tumalano eo o tla e sala morago gore fa ba tlisa maina e nna two/one two/ one; ga re na le fa e le bothata mme jaanong fa ba nna fela e bo e re kgabagare ba tlisa maina ba bo ba re nnyaa, a re tlhomaganeng ka gore go ntse go tlhomaganwa ba ne ba sa tlisa maina, ke gone fa go tlaabong go nna le bothata.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Ke a leboga Honourable Leader of the House.

Honourable Minister Molale, I think ke setse ke e tlhatswitse Motlotlegi Rraarona Moeteledipele wa Ntlo.
Fa ba tlisa maina, ba a itse; they are 100 per cent welcome.

Jaanong fa maina a seyo, I become very hamstrung.

Honourable Minister Molale.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further procedure.

MR SPEAKER: Procedure, Honourable Minister of Mines and Green Technology.

MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): Procedure.

Tanki Mr Speaker.
Tanki Mr Speaker.

Tota sentle potso e ne e re a maina a kile a tla go simolola kwa ntlheng ka gore ke solofela gore fa thulaganyo ya debate e simolola maina a ka bo a tlile a nna teng re itse gore nnyaa a teng ka gore fa a le teng, o a bitsa mme yo o seyong leina la feta.

Jaanong re ne re batla go itse yone eo pele fela gore a one a kile a tla pele kwa ntlheng kana ga a ise a ko a tle?

Thank you sir.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Moagi, le ja nako tlhe banna.


MR SPEAKER: Nthusa go ba nkgalemelela Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Maun Botlhaba.

MR MOAGI: Nnyaa, ba ne ba a ja nako fela maabane.

A ga ke a tshwanela go bua neh?

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Honourable Minister.

Let us have order please.

Gakere o raya maina a ba kganetso Minister?

MR MOAGI: Ee rra, ke raya one.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much.

Nnyaa, bone ga ba a tlisa maina this time, ba pega maina fela on the board; matlho a me a tsepame on the board.
Fa maina a seyo, ga gona se ke ka se dirang.

Ke lebogela bobelontle le tirisanyo mmogo ya lona Batlotlegi Mapalamente.

Let us have it that way all the time.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further clarity, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Procedure, Honourable Assistant Minister for Presidential Affairs.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL PUBLIC AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Thank you Mr Speaker.

In the past, the practice has been that go bua ba Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) ba le two wa opposition a le one so that at the end of the day, the numbers equals.

Rotlhe re buile towards the end.

Jaanong go raya gore ba ba Opposition jaaka ba sa dirise that practice go raya gore they are forfeiting their chances of speaking at this stage.
Which means at the end of the day they will not insist on them coming at the end of us all fa re sena go bua, ba tlhomagane fela jaana ba le 20.

Re sena go felela, because there has been a practice that it is two to one, and we should ...(inaudible)… unless they forfeit that.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS ...(Murmurs)... MR SPEAKER: Order bagaetsho!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, make a ruling mo go yone re tswelele.

We know the Standing Orders gore di tlhamaletse fela.

Make a ruling mo go yone re tswelele.


MR SPEAKER: I could not agree more with you Honourable Kekgonegile, I could not agree more with you!

Bagaetsho, we know what we are dealing with.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further procedure!

MR SPEAKER: I have made a ruling on the matter bagaetsho.

I hope it is not anything to do with the names.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)...

HONOURABLE MEMBER: No it is nothing to do with names sir.

MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR MOLAO): On a point of procedure.
Tota o ne o setse o e arabile Mr Speaker, it was just for emphasis gore, jaaka seemo se ntse jaana ga e tle e re kamoso go bo go balwa gotwe ba BDP ba setse ba buile ba le kana, therefore a re tlhomagane.

If it is on that basis and you make a ruling on that basis and we can stick by that ruling, then we are fine.

Go se ka ga ba ga tla ga nna le point of order gore, nnyaa ba buile le rona a re tlhomagane.
So make a ruling e le ...(inaudible)… e tlhamaletse fela sentle on that basis ya gore ga go na go tla go nna le kgang e nngwe e e tlaa tlang kwa morago.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure.

MR SPEAKER: May we have order please!

Bagaetsho le a bo le diya tiro.

Honourable Minister Rakgare, what is your point of procedure?

MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR RAKGARE): Thank you very much Mr Speaker.
Ke ne ke re batho ba kganetso ba teng mo Palamenteng, ka gore there is a general rule ya gore go bua ba le babedi ba BDP, a le mongwe fela wa kganetso go bo go tlhomagana jalo.

Ba teng mo Palamenteng Mr Speaker, a ba itshupe ba ba batlang go bua, ba se ka ba nna fela because golo mo is the strategy by the Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) gore re bue fela, ba bo ba tla ba ya go bua kwa morago, please.

Kgang e o e tlhokomele because… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)...
MR RAKGARE: Golo mo is a plan ya bone.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)...

MR SPEAKER: Order bagaetsho!

order!

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: You want the Speaker to make a ruling on your fears.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: You have made a ruling Mr Speaker, tswelela.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... MR SPEAKER: May we have order please!

Order please!

MR RAKGARE: There is a reason why ba tshega Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister Rakgare, you have made your point.
HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... MR SPEAKER: May we have order please!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Thank you sir.

MR SPEAKER: You are just being repetitive, please!

Bagaetsho I am not going to force anybody to contribute to the debate.

Yo o buang maina a gagwe a mo pampiring or a tlaa tlhaga on the board, and nobody is going to ask me about anything pertaining to this arrangement.

Please!

le diya nako, this is a timed debate.


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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Ke a leboga.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke go dumedise le batlotlegi botlhe.

Batswana kwa gae le bone ke a ba dumedisa, bogolo jang Barolong ka kwa Goodhope-Mabule.
Pele fa ke tshwaela mo puong ya mafoko a ga Honourable Serame ke bue ka ene, ke mo tlotlomatse go bo e le mme wa ntlha go dira tiro e. Ke mo tlotlomatsa jaana ke mo tlotlomatsa mo boemong jwa Barolong ba Goodhope-Mabule le gongwe le gongwe kwa ba leng teng, mme bogolo jang ba Phitshane-Molopo, kwa Tona Mme Peggy Serame a tlholegang teng.

Phitshane-Molopo ke motse wa ditso.


Mme Peggy Serame o ntse o agela mo godimo ga ditso tseo go dira Phitshane-Molopo motse o o tlaa itsegeng le go gaisa fa dingwaga di ntse di tsamaya mo lefatsheng leno la Botswana.

Ke re re go leboge Mme Peggy Serame mo boemong jwa Barolong, o re tlotlomaditse.

O re tlotlomaditse, e bile ga go na ope yo o ka tlholang a leka go phimola ditso tseo jaaka bo Rre Tshabang ba leka go di phimola, di setse di kwadilwe, ga di ka ke tsa phimoga.
Ke bo ke akgole le batsadi ba gago, bogolo jang ausi Botlhale go bo a re godiseditse ngwana.

Ba re godiseditse ngwana yo gompieno a eteletseng tiro e e bokete e, tiro e e masisi e ya go aba madi a lefatshe.

Re a itse gore go godisa ngwana ke selo se se bokete, e bile ke selo se e leng gore e a re fa jaanong re setse re bona maduo re batle go nna le seabe rotlhe mo kgodisong eo.

Mme ke tlotlomatse Rre le Mme Mma Serame, ausi Botlhale, gore ba bo ba go dirile se o leng sone.

Re motlotlo ka wena.


Re tsaya gore le kamoso o tlaa nna o re tlotlomatsa kwa Phitshane-Molopo le mo kgaolong yotlhe ya ga Kgosi Ratlou mo molapong o montsho wa rona wa Molopo.

Ke a go leboga.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, fa ke tsena mo puisanyong ya me, mafoko a a ntseng a buiwa ke Tona Dr Kwape a botlhokwa, kana e a re fa re ya ditlhophong mongwe le mongwe a bo a ipala mebala ya kgaka, a ipua bontle.
Le ba tota ba kgomothilweng fela ba ipua gore ba bantle go gaisa ba bangwe, mme kwa bofelong ba e leng bone banyadi ba tlhophe yo o montle le ka puo.

Mo puong ya me ke gore ke raya gore, fa re ya kwa ditlhophong re feta re raya Batswana re re, fa le re tlhopha re a go tokafatsa matshelo a lona, re ya go dira gore le tswe fa le leng teng le yeng fa go leng botoka teng.

Mme re beye mealo ya gore re a go dira jalo jang.


Re raya Batswana re re, re a go le sireletsa, matshelo a lona le ditsalona, jaaka Molaomotheo wa rona o bua.

Molaomotheo o o botlhokwa, o re gogile lebaka, mme jaanong re mo nakong ya gore re o baakanye.

Ke itumela gore tiro eo e setse e simolotse ka botswapelo E re ntswa go na le ba ba ipelaetsang, ba bua gore it is a fraudulent exercise, Batswana ga ba dumalane ka fa ba setseng ba simolotse go akgela ka teng.
Molaomotheo o o re bereketse, mme e bile Batswana ba tlaa nna le seabe gore o tokafale, o bo o re berekele le go feta.

E a re re ya ditlhophong re bue gape ka gore re ya go fa Motswana mongwe le mongwe sebaka sa gore a ikgodise, a itirele tse di ka mo tshidisang le ba lelwapa la gagwe mme re kae gore re ya go dira jang.

Re bue mananeo le ka fa ditiro dingwe di tlaa dirwang ka teng le ka fa go tlaabong go abiwa mananeo mo categories tse di farologaneng.
Kwa bofelong, Batswana jaaka gale ba tshotse tshwetso ya gore e re ntswa puo e le nngwefela gore re ya go tokafatsa le go sireletsa matshelo le ditsa-Batswana, re ya go dira gore Motswana mongwe le mongwe a nne le monyetla wa gore a itokafatse.

Selo se setona ke gore re dira jang dilo tseo?

Ke gone fa re tlhalosang teng, Batswana ba utlwe, ba tlhaloganye gore re ya go di dira ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
E kgang ya go kopa e, ke puo ya molomo fela ka gore fa o rile o ya go tokafatsa botshelo jwa Motswana, o tswa o nankola e bile o bua matlhatlola a gore o ya go bo tokafatsa jang.

Ke gone fa jaanong Motswana a dirang tshwetso teng, ga gona ka go kopa.

Se se diragalang ke gore jaanong Motswana a lemoge gore mme e re ntswa puo e tshwana, e tsela e e buiwang e, e botoka go na le e nngwe e e buiwang ele.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification Tona.

MR SPEAKER: Clarification sought.

MR MOLALE: Ke ka le fa sekai.


Honourable Boko, mma ke riane, le ntse le bua ke sa le iteye tsebe, fa e le sengwe ke tlaa le fa kwa bofelong, not now, e seng ke simolola.

So ga ke dumalane Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR SPEAKER: Please continue Honourable Minister.

MR MOLALE: Ke ka a fa Ntlo e sekai; re buile gore re ya go nna le mogotweng food self-sufficiency in certain crops, bogolo jang staple crops.
Ke tsone tse re tlaabong re gatelela gore re tsamaise mananeo a tsone gore batho ba kgone go itemela, ba nne le dijo.

So e nne household food security and sufficiency, as opposed gore re import dijo, re bo re re hemp ke yone e ka lengwang gore re itirele gore re nne le madi.

Ke pharologanyo ya approach gore Batswana ba leme mmidi, mabele le dinawa, go na le gore ba leme hemp.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) re nnyaa, a go lengwe hemp go na le mmidi, dinawa le mabele.

Ke yone pharologanyo ya approach e ke buang ka yone, e ke tsayang gore le Motswana kwa gae o a e tlhaloganya gore e bile ba a itse gore ke eng ba ne ba tlhopha Domkrag.

Tokafatso ya botshelo Mr Speaker, re lebile dilo tse di tshwanang le botsogo, thuto, metsi, dijo, motlakase, tsa boipelego, go thusa ba ba kobo dikhutshwane le tse dingwe fela jalo.
Re bua thata ka tsa botsogo ka gore di botlhokwa mo matshelong a rona.

Fa re bua ka tsa botsogo, re bo re bua e seng ka tsa kalafi fela, e leng ka tsa tshireletso gore batho ba ipheme mo goreng ba ka tsenwa ke malwetse.

Ke ka fa re beileng ka teng re le Puso ya ga Domkrag gore re ya go dira dilo ka teng.

E re ntswa kalafi ya gore batho ba alafiwe ba fole e le teng, kwa tlhogong priority is prevented to the health care.
Ke sone se e reng at the village level, go bo go na le bo Family Welfare Educator, Immunisation Programmes tsa bagolo le tsa bana.

Le gompieno jaaka re rotloetsa batho ba, prevention ya gore batho ba tsenwe ke mogare, kgotsa mogare wa COVID-19 o fokotsege go tlhasela batho, a re yeng kwa lemaong la booster, lwa bobedi kgotsa lwa ntlha.

Re se ka ra tsaya gore bolwetse jo bo fedile, prevention is better than cure.

Ke ka fa re ikiteileng sehuba ka teng.


Ee, dilo di ka tswa di tlhaela, bogolo jang dikokelo le tse dingwe mme re a itse gore le pele ga boipuso, di ne di ntse di tlhaela mme ga nna ga okediwa jaaka go ntse go tsweletse go agiwa dipatela.

E bile re solofela gore le kwa bofelong, dipatela tse di tshwanang le tsa bo Goodhope di tlaa okediwa, tse di tshwanetseng go agiwa jaaka tsa bo Kanye le bo Tonota, di tlaa agiwa.

re ntswa go ne go se monate, mme Barolong ba ne ba utlwisisa.
Ke ka tshephisa ka ba ka tlhomamisa gore e rile ka Palamente ya November mo supplementaries, madi a tshimolodiso ya tiro ya phatlalatso ya metsi ao e ne ya dumalanwa ke Palamente.

Tumelo ke gore nako nngwe le nngwe Rre Mzwinila o tlaabo a ya go simolodisa tiro eo.

E bile ke eletsa gore e re a re simolodisa, a bitse Barolong ka mmetela, ba tle go bona tiro eo gore tota e simologile ka gore ke nngwe ya ditiro tse ditona.
Ga ise go ko go nne jalo mo Botswana, mo go phatlaladiwang ka nako e le nngwe metsi mo metseng e le 33.

Re tshwanetse ra leboga Puso e ya ga Domkrag go lemoga gore go botlhokwa gore metsi a ye kwa Goodhope-Mabule, batho ba nna mo lenyoreng.

Ke ka kopa ba Water Utilities le ba ba amegang gore a e re re santse re emetse tiro eo, a a leng teng metsi re a diriseng, re bo re a somareleng le go a atolosa ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng.
A e se ka ya re fa pipe e thubegile e re go begiwa gotwe e thubegile, yo o lebaganeng a bo a re nnyaa ke tlaa e bona kamoso, ke tšhaisitse.

Kana 37 per cent yo o neng a buiwa ke Rre Matsheka, o tswa gone fa gore metsi a lale a pumpunyega bosigo jotlhe fela ka gore motho a re o tšhaisitse, and yet water is an essential service.

Dilo tse ke tsone tse e leng gore fa gongwe e nna selabe mo tsamaisong e e phepa ya Puso ya ga Domkrag.

E bo e re kamoso jaanong o kare Puso ya ga Domkrag ga e kgathale.
Motlakase le one ke sengwe sa dilo tse di tlhokafalang mo Kgaolong ya Goodhope-Mabule.

Ke ka itumela gore mo dingwageng tse pedi tse Rre Moagi, mma ke go akgole mokaulengwe gore o re tshotse from 22 per cent of village electrification to 70 per cent.

Banna ba re bapileng le bone ka fa ba tle ba re big big makneer; ke gore e fitlhisa go beng.

Roma ga a agiwa mo letsatsing le le lengwefela.


Ke sone se ke buang ke gakolola Honourable Dikoloti ka gore sepatela sele sa Goodhope, re se pataganetse nna le wena.

A se atolosiweng ka bofefo, se bo se nne le batho ba ba tlaa dirang mo go sone gore re anamise pholo mo setšhabeng sa Goodhope-Mabule.

Golo mo o tshwanetse wa akgolwa fela thata gore o bo o ne o eteletse pele tiro ya go nna jaana.
E re ntswa go na le dilabenyana tsa gore dikonteraka dingwe jaaka kwa bo Mogobewakgomo le tse dingwe, di santse di saletse kwa morago mo e bileng batho o kare ba simolola go belaela gore a mme Puso e ne e bua boammaaruri, ke kopa gore golo foo o go ele tlhoko, batho bao ba tseelwe dikgato, ba neele Barolong motlakase.

Re bua ka metsi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Metsi kwa Kgaolong ya Goodhope-Mabule, ke kgang e tona.
Ke a itumela gore e re ntswa e le kgang e tona, Barolong ba ne ba reetsa fa Motlotlegi Tautona a bua gore a madi a a neng a tshwanetse go ya go simolodisa tiro ka go phatlalatsa metsi go tswa kwa Pitsane go ya go tsena kwa Sekhutlane, a name a eme gore re ye go rekela Batswana melemo, re boloke botshelo jwa Batswana.

E Mo metseng e e setseng e na le motlakase mme e batla go atolosiwa, ke itumelela gore maloba o re tshephisitse wa re nnyaa, re tlaa nna re goroga koo.
Se se tona se re ka se kopang ke gore, a re dire tiro ya gore jaanong o re lomolole mo motlakaseng o o tswang ka fa Aferika Borwa, o e a reng fela fa phefo e foka, o bo o tima, e a reng legadima le phatsima o bo o tima.

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Ke kgang e tona e e leng gore o tshwanetse wa e emela ka dinao Molete, ka e bile le kwa Molete ba tlhoka motlakase.

Gongwe ba tlaa go amogela ba bo ba go fe setsha koo gore o tle o ba tlhokomele o le gaufi le bone kwa Molete.

Ke batla go bua ka dijo, rona re le kgaolo ya Morolong, re itsege ka go dira dijo, mme e bile re tsweletse re a di dira.
Selo se se tona se re se eletsang ke gore, Rre Gare, ela tlhoko gore botshelo jwa Batswana ga bo ka ke jwa tokafala fa e re ba tshwanetse go thusiwa ke ba ba itseng temo, bagakolodi ba temo, go bo go fitlhelwa e le gore ga bayo.

Fa re tsaya boipuso, re ne re ntse re na le balemise, posts tseo di le teng.

Malatsi ano go utlwala o kare posts tseo ga dio, ga o ka ke wa itse gore di ile kae ka gore ga go na ope yo o kileng a re di ntshiwe.
Jaanong re bereka ka temporary balemise ba dikonteraka tsa bone di felang ka di 30 tsa ga September ngwaga le ngwaga, e le yone nako e letsema le simologang ka yone.

Golo fa go tlaa re tsenya ngwene ka Sengwaketse, mme re itse gore re kgone go jesa Batswana.

Ke selo se e leng gore se a ntlhobaetsa, se tshwanetse gore se potlakelwe, se dirwe ka bofefo.
Palamente fa e ntshitse taolo ya gore go nne le posts tsa balemise kwa mafelong a a rileng, ga go na ope gape yo o ka fetolang gore go sutlhiwe posts tseo di tlisiwe mo Gaborone to augment positions mo ministry.

It is a violation of the Appropriation Act.

Re tshwanetse ra itse seo.

Ba ba dirang jalo, ba gakololwe gore nnyaa golo moo ke tlolo molao.
Jaanong re ne re eletsa ka tsweetswee gore a re rotloediweng go ntsha dijo ka gore re setse re itse gore di dirwa jang, mme go tshwanetse ga nna le ba ba re rotloetsang ka dikitso tse di tlhabologileng, le dithuso tse di tswang ka fa Pusong gore di goroge ka nako.

Selo se se botlhokwa.

Re dikile re sa itumela, mme e se gore tota ke dilo tse e leng gore Puso e ne e eletsa gore di diragale.
Fa ke ya kwa dikgannyeng tse di tshwanang le tsa safety and security, tota ka fa Morolong, ke ne ke eleditse fa go dirilwe lekoko la kwa Bobirwa, gore gongwe le ne le ka fetela le ka fa Morolong ka gore dikgwetlho tsa Babirwa le tsa Barolong di a tshwana.

Batho ba ba neng ba filwe mananeo a nyeletso lehuma a dipodi, a gender, a dinku jalojalo, masaka a tswetswe, khumanego e a boela, e le bogodu jwa leruo.
Mo e bileng fa terata ya molelwane e baakanngwa letsatsi leno, kamoso fa re tsoga, ga eyo, e kgaotswe, e tshotswe.

Golo moo go tlaa re tsenya tsebetsebe, go tlaa re direla mathata, go bo go pateletse bangwe gore ba itseele molao mo diatleng.

Fa e kare o tshogane o bone gore leruo la gago le fale o a le latela, gore le boele mo Botswana, ke kgwetlho.

Re tshwanetse ra dira ka bofefo Tona Mmusi gore police station e go saleng go agiwa terata ya yone kwa Phitshane, e agiwe.
Ke itumetse maloba e re ke go botsa o bo o re mme e mo lenaneong.

Leka go fefoga Mokhurutshe, re tle re bone tshiamelo, batho ba se ka ba amogiwa ditsabone, ba sirelediwe le ditsabone.

Re ne re na le opportunities tsa gore batho ba itshetse, mme fa go nna jaana, bogodu jo ga bo ka ke jwa re tshetsa sentle.

Ke ne ke eletsa gore ke bue gape jaaka ke kile ka bua mo Ntlong e gore, ditshono tse di re lebaganyeng, tse di ka bong re setse re di diragatsa, o kare go bonya.
Ke fe sekai se Honourable Gobotswang le ene a tlaa ntlatsang mo go sone, gore for as long as re na le primary schools, re ya go tlhoka cooking oil and school feeding programme component.

Re na le natural resources tse di ntsi tse go ka dirwang mahura ka tsone; free across the country.
Fa go ne go ka itlhaganelwa to set plants mo dikgaolong ka go farologana, that is a guaranteed source of income, ka gore fela fa dikole di le teng, mahura ao a tlaa dirisiwa, le tse dingwe tse e leng gore di ka dirisiwa as part of the home-grown school feeding component.

Jaanong ke ne ke eletsa gore dilo tse di dirwe ka bofefo.
Rona ba bangwe re ka thusa ka gore re na le kitso ya gore di dirwa jang, ka bofefo jo bo ntseng jang, re bo re kgothatse le ba ba tshwereng madi a development assistance gore le bone ba nne le seabe mo ditirong tseo.

Kana fa re re value chains and income generation, re raya jaana, e seng gore batho ba nne reliant on Government gore a ba fe dijo mme ba na le diatla.

Ke itumelela gore maloba re fetisitse molao wa economic inclusion le o mosha wa public procurement.
Rona kwa kgaolong ya rona re ntse re bona o kare jaanong batho ba ba itekang mo kgaolong, fa go setse go ya go rekwa dilo tsa Puso, go rekwa kwa Lobatse le kwa Gaborone, mme go na le batho ba ba dirang even better quality products mo kgaolong.

Selo se ga se gore Puso e a se rata ka gore e laetse gore you must start locally.

Ke tshenyetso-setšhaba fela e e leng gore e dira gore batho ba ba neng ba lebaganwe ke ditsompelo le monyetla wa gore ba itshetse, ba di amogwa ke ba ba nang le mowa o o bosula.
Golo mo Barolong ba go lemogile, mme e bile ba eletsa gore Economic Inclusion Act le the new Public Procurement Act di simolole, di nne mo tirisong ka bofefo gore dilo tse di diragale.

Ke itumetse thata Honourable Serame le fa o bua ka constituency project, o bua gore re ya go simolola re dira mo go tweng “local is lekker.” E ntse e le teng, fela ke gore go na le ba ba sa e lebeng ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng, ba bo ba dira e kete Puso ya ga Domkrag ga e rate batho.
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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Pele ga ke ya kwa motsubong, ke bue le ka tse dingwe tse di ka dirwang, bogolo jang mo meepong.

Ke kile ka bua mo Ntlong e gore meepo mengwe ke e e ka bong e setse e simolotse go bereka.

For as long as re na le power stations tsa magala, we will need limestone, go na le limestone kwa Serorome le Nakalaphala kwa Kweneng.
Kgang ke gore re bolelelwa gore fa go dirisiwa limestone eo, e gotetsa magala mo e nyerolosang dipitsa tsa power station.

Nnyaa, re na le research institutions; Botswana International University of Science and Technology (BIUST) le ba bangwe ba re ka batlang tshipi e e leng gore ga e ka ke ya nyerololwa ke limestone eo.

Ra dirisa limestone ya rona for as many years as we would be having those power stations.

Product ya kwa Morupule Power Station, ke molora wa magala, o dirisiwa go dira cement.
Ke mo nakong e ka bong PPC Plant ya Matsiloje e godisitswe, e dirisa molora o o tswang kwa mine o gore cement se dirwe mo Botswana.

Re na le price preference strategies and other strategies, tse e leng gore le fa e le gore gongwe kgetsi ya cement e tura by 10 per cent more, re rile our price preference limit ke 15 per cent.

A re emeng nokeng cement plant e e leng teng mono, re ye kwa … (Inaudible)… fa e le gore kwano jaanong ba hupediwa ke demand.
Re eletsa gore dilo tse di dirwe ka bofefo, ke yone income generation le employment creation.

Le kwa bo Lobatse Clay Works, ke a itumela, ke ne ke utlwa on radio maabane gotwe e a bulwa, and all these other establishments.

A re fefogeng bagaetsho, ke yone nako e ya gore batho ba bo ba bereka, re lese go ipata ka gore gongwe re santse re tlaa dira feasibility study fale, kgotsa eng fale.
Dilo tse di tshwanetse tsa fefogelwa, ke gore re fetole lewa gore e re jaanong fa re latlha bola jo, a bo e le gore bo wa sentle, ga di goge di kaname.

Ke sone se ke eletsang go se bua.

Fa ke ya kwa motsubong bagaetsho, kwa kgaolong ya Morolong, dilo di ne di le tlhano tse re neng re di solofeditswe.

E ne e le ya gore re ya go nna le district, mme ke solofela gore e mo tseleng.
Fa policy ya decentralisation e goroga mo Palamenteng, ke solofela gore e tlaare jaanong fa go setse go dirwa fully-fledged districts, Goodhope Sub District ke yone ya ntlha mo Botswana, e bo e latelwa ke tse dingwe tse re di itseng.

Ke tsaya gore e tlaare fa re setse re ya go simolodisa tiro eo, re dire fela jaaka di ne tsa latelelana, re lebile mabaka a gore ke yone ya ntlha mo Botswana.

Metsi ke buile ka one, a etla, tiro e tloga e simolola jaaka Rre Mzwinila a re solofeditse.
Ditlhaeletsanyo le tsone ke a itumela, Rre Segokgo o setse a simolotse e bile o phatlaladitse ditiro tsa gore go dirwa telecommunication towers le tse dingwe, le one motlakase ke buile ka one.

Selo se o kareng se saletse fa morago se re neng re se solofeditswe mo go tse tlhano tse, ke ditsela.

Jaaka Rre Kwape a ntse a bua, ditsela dingwe e rile fa go dirwa tsela ya Pitsane-Sekhutlane, access roads tsa tlogelwa kwa ntle, jaaka ya Malokaganyane le Bethele.
Ditsela tseo go tshwanetse ga boiwa, tsa ya go dirwa ka gore ke policy ya Puso e ka fa re tshwanetseng ra dira dilo ka teng.

Tsela ya Sekhutlane-Mabule, le yone e tshwanetse go dirwa, e bo e nne bontlha bongwe jwa Phitshane- Mabule-Sekhutlane-Lorolwane-Mmathethe-Bray.

E nne a network e e tlaabong e thusa go godisa kgwebo e e leng mo kgaolong ele, e bong temothuo, ka gore ke selo se se kwa godimo thata.

Ke solofela gore tseo tsotlhe re tlaa di dira Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Kwa bofelong, ke ne ke eletsa gore Rre Segokgo, re lebe metlhale e mesha ya go dira ditsela.

Kwa Khoemacau, ba dirile a 38 kilometre road ka motlhale o sele, o e leng gore ga se sekontere.

Motlhale o go tsamaya dikoloi tse di bokete mo go one, mme ga e senyege, go utlwala e le tsela e e leng gore ga e turu mo go kalokalo.
Jaanong ke ne ke eletsa gore ke eme fa, tsela ele ya Mokatako- Borobadilepe, Hebron-Metlojane di dirwe ka one motlhale o so that go kgone gore batho ba tsamaye mo ditseleng tse di siameng.

Ke ne ke re ke eme fa, gongwe e bile ka batho ga ba batle go bua, gongwe Tona Serame o ka simolola go fetola.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Tanki Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke tsaya gore o a nkutlwa ka koo?

MR SPEAKER: Ke a go utlwa sir.

MR TSHERE: Tanki.


Ke ne ke goga dinao fa o ntse o bitsa bakaulengwe ka gore ke tlhotse ke na le bothata le maranyane mo Mahalapye, jaanong ke tsaya gore gongwe ga ke ka ke ka utlwala sentle.

Ke a go leboga fa e le gore ke a utlwala ka koo.

Le nna ke ne ke re ke akgele mo mafokong a ga Tona wa Madi le Ditlhabololo, a a neng a a baya Palamente pele ka Mosupologo, a a buang ka itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana.
Jaaka ke tlhola ke bua malatsi otlhe, pego e Tona a neng a e tlisa, e e buang ka madi, e bile a tlhalosa gore ke ya bofelo ya Lenaneo la Ditlhabololo tsa Setšhaba la Bolesome le Bongwe, ga e a tsholela motse wa Mahalapye sepe, jaaka tse di tlileng pele ga yone, fa ke ntse ke le Mopalamente fa.

Re digela dingwaga tse di ka tshwarang lesome go ntse go sena sepe se se sha se se tlang mo motseng wa 26 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Mahalapye, e le ditlhabololo tsa motse wa Mahalapye jalo.

Ke sone se ke itumelang thata letsatsi leno gore lenaneo le la bolesome le bongwe, le tla kwa bokhutlong Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, le le neng le sa tshwarela motse wa Mahalapye sepe mo dinakong tse di fetileng.

Ke itumelela thata gore le tla kwa bokhutlong.


Fa ke riana Mr Speaker, ga ke reye gore ga re a ka ra fiwa matlhotlhora, go na le fa re filweng matlhotlhora teng, a e leng gore batho fa ba a ja borotho, loaf, rona re fiwa matlhotlhora.

Re ne ra fiwa matlhotlhora ngwaga o o fetileng gotwe re baakanye bus rank, mme ba ntse ba itse gore bus rank, ke tiro e e bokete mo go kanakana.
E bile re setse re kile ra tlhalosa gore e mo mogobeng, mme re ne ra fiwa madi a a neng ka tebo ya matlho Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, e ne e kare o ne o fiwa ka bomo a le mannyennyane, gore o palelwe.

Ke sone se e tlaa reng fa o sena go palelwa, ka gore o paletswe ke ditlamelo ba bo ba go ja setshego.

Eo ga se puo e e diragalang mo motseng wa Mahalapye gone jaana, re itumela thata gore ba lephata ba a re thusa, gore re kgone gore re baakanye fa go senyegileng teng.
Jaaka o itse, ke ntse ke bua gore go tlhoka madi gore tiro e dirwe, e bile go tlhoka madi a a lekaneng gore tiro e dirwe e bo e tswe diatla.

Ke jone botshelo jo re bo bonang le lenaneo le la ditlhabololo, le e neng e le matlhotlhora mo motseng wa Mahalapye.

Ke rata gore ke supe gape ke ise ke wele mo dikgannyeng gore, ke utlwile Tona fa a bua ka itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana.

A bua gape gore ga re ise re tswe mo manokonokong a a ka bakiwang ke COVID-19.
Ke dumalana le ene, mo botsogong ga re ise re tswe e bile ga re itse gore re ya go ya kae.

Ke rotloetsa thata gore e re pele ga mariga a tsena, ba ba tshwanetseng go tsaya mokento wa booster kana wa boraro, tsweetswee o tseyeng, ka gore ga re itse sepe se se yang go diragala jaaka re ne re bone ngwaga o o fetileng fa re tsamaya gone fa.

Re ne re sa itse gore re tlaa latlhegelwa ke batho ka bokete jo bo kana ka June, July and August.
Re tshwanetse re nne podi matseba, re ithute mo go tse re di boneng kana re di ithutile ka bolwetse jo mo nakong e e fetileng, go leka go tila sepe se se ka diragalang mo nakong e e tlang.

Ke utlwile gape Tona a tlhalosa gore lefatshe la rona le ne la supiwa fa le le kwa tlase ke ba ba kakobang mafatshe le itsholelo ya one ba Moody’s ba ba kwa United Kingdom (UK) le ba Standard and Poor’s, ba supa gore re wela kwa tlase re le lefatshe la Botswana.
Selo se se a tshwenya Mr Speaker, se ne sa ntshwenya fa ke ntse ke reeditse.

Ke ne ka tshwenngwa gape ke kgang e re neng re e touta, e bile fa gongwe Tona a ipoka ka yone.

Ya gore ba Financial Action Task Force (FATF), ba re ntshitse mo gotweng grey listing, gore re ne re kwadilwe ka pena e e grey, e e supang fa re sa tsamaise dilo sentle re le lefatshe, tse di amanang le madi.

Ke a itumela gore Tona o tlisitse dilo tseo kwa Palamenteng, re ntse re leka go rarabolola dikgang tse.
Se se neng sa ntshwenya thata Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke e e neng e buiwa gotwe re mo blacklist, kana black o feta grey ka bontsho re a bona gore re kwadilwe le ka pena e ntsho, lefatshe le is blacklisted.
Mr Speaker, go ne go sa tswe go le phepa ka gore Tona o ne a leka go go katela ka bonako, a bua gore e bile mafatshe a European Union (EU) ke moka o kareng ba re ntshitse mo teng kana ba tlaa re ntsha mo teng ka bonako jo bo sa fediseng pelo mme a sa tlhalose go tsepame gore, go dirilwe eng se se yang go re ntsha mo blacklist jaaka go buiwa.

Blacklisting kana sanctions jaaka di itsege, ke selo se se bokete ka gore re itse gore moruakgomo o rekisa kgomo ya gagwe kwa EU kwa ditlhwatlhwa di leng botoka teng.
Jaanong fa re utlwa gotwe we are blacklisted, kana go tewa gore kgomo ya rona ga e ka ke ya tsena kwa.

Se se a tshwenya, se tshwanetse se buiwe se tshwenya go feta grey listing ya FATF.

Ke ne ka utlwa ke tshoga thata, ke tsaya gore Palamente ke e Tona Serame, o tlaa re tlhalosetsa a bo a re tsamaisa jaaka a ntse a re tataisa gore re tswe mo grey list ya FATF ka melao e FATF e tswang go e baya.
A re bone melao e e tswang kwa EU, gore EU ya re mathata a yone ke eng ka Botswana, e bile e ne e supa fa kae re tlhaela, re tle re baakanye, go tswe go le mo paananeng, e seng gore go iphitlhiwe ka monwana fa go buiwa ka blacklisting ya EU Mr Speaker.

Ke selo se se masisi thata.

Fa ke tswelela ke utlwile gape jaaka Tona a bua ka Constituency Community Project (CCP) kana madi a P10 million a constituencies.
Ke ne ke mo reeditse thata a re, a go seegelwe ditiro tse di dirwang jaaka mo Mahalapye West, ditiro tse di tshwanetse di dirwe ke bana ba Mahalapye Sub-District.

Ke mo utlwa sentle fa a rialo, ke dumalana le ene, mme kana re a itse molao o o tsamaisang theko le thekiso ya dithoto tsa ga Goromente, o tlhalosa gore Motswana mongwe le mongwe o ka iteka lesego kwa a leng teng.

Le nna ke ka ya go iteka lesego kwa Goodhope-Mabule fa ke le rakgwebo.
Ke rotloetsa le batho ba Mahalapye gore, ba nne ba iteka gongwe le gongwe kwa ba leng teng.

Fa e le gore o batla gore golo mo go kgonagale Mr Speaker, go tshwanetse go fetolwe molao.

Leader of the Opposition (LOO) Honourable Saleshando, o letse a e 27 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) buile maabane a re, ga re ka ke ra bua fela ka molomo ra re a go nne jalo.
Re kile ra bua jalo jaaka Honourable Molale a bua, ga go a ka ga nna jalo Mr Speaker, ka gore molao ga o a fetolwa o bua jalo gore o rotloetse se gore se diragale.

Re dumela jalo gore ke selo se se molemo se se tlaa thusang itsholelo ya motse wa Mahalapye.

Ka jalo ke leboga thata fa Tona, o kare fa a bua jaana e re fa go fela, a tle ka molao jaanong o o tlaabong o rurifatsa mafoko a a buang.
Fa re bua ka supplementary budget, ke utlwa Tona, ke dumalana le ene gore ga re tlhoke gore re nne re oketsa madi fa re a file maphata.

Unless a ganetsana le bo Honourable Molao ba ba buang gore fa gongwe ga o ka ke wa itse o tsamaya gone fa Honourable Serame, gore a o tlaa tlhoka madi a mangwe jaaka o ne o bua re na le COVID-19.

Fela se o ka se buang o kare, wena keletso ya gago o eletsa thata gore go se ka ga nna le batho ba ba tlaa tlang ka supplementary budget.
Ga go reye gore o na le bokgoni jwa go ka e emisa ka fa bakaulengwe ba tlholang ba bua ka teng.

Go kgona go nna le tshoganetso e nngwe e e tlaabong e tlhoka gore re nne le supplementary budget.

Fela ke lebogela kakgelo ya gago, e e supang gore o tlaabo o tlhokometse matlotlo a lefatshe le to make sure gore ga a senyege.

Foo ke dumalana le wena, thata ka botlalo.

A re dire seo, re tshwaragane le bakaulengwe ba bangwe.

Fa ke wela mo ntlheng ya boraro e ke batlang go wela ka yone ke ya botsogo.
Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, Lephata la Botsogo le neetswe over P10 billion mo ngwageng o wa 2022/2023 financial year, se ke kgolo.

Mma ke go gakolole gore ka ngwaga tsa bo 2004 fa ke simolola go direla Puso to 2009 somewhere around there, the budget ya Ministry of Health and Wellness e ne e le P2.2 billion ka nako eo.

Gompieno re bona kgolo e ntsi mo botsogong, ka nako e ke buang ka yone e go ne go sena district hospitals tsa bo Mahalapye, Molepolole, Maun le Serowe.
Re ne re santse re le kwa tlase mo botsogong, go ne go sena Sir Ketumile Masire Teaching Hospital (SKMTH) ka nako eo.

Gompieno fa ke lebelela, ke bona kgolo e tona e e diragetseng kwa Lephateng la Botsogo.

Ke eletsa thata gore rona re le ba botsogo re amogele kgolo e mme re e ipaakanyetse, re lebagane le yone, ka gore kgolo nngwe le nngwe e tla le dikgwetlho tsa yone.

Ga se gore go raya gore ke go fiwa madi fela, Goromente a tika mathata ka madi.
Se re tshwanetse re le ba botsogo re se emele ka dinao rotlhe.

E filwe lion’s share ya P10 billion, e tlaa re fa ke tsena kwa nnetaneng re tlaa tsharabolola P10 billion yo re tle re bone gore P10 billion yo o ile kae, o jewa ke eng, o fa kae, go diragala eng.
Se se ntshwenyang Mr Speaker, se ke batlang gore ke se gatelele gompieno jaaka botsogo bo filwe P10 billion jaana, ga re na bodiri jo bo lekaneng mo dipateleng le kwa headquarters gore ba ka dirisa madi a. Ga ke gakgamale, Tona ke ne ke mo utlwa sentle a bua puo e e tlhapileng a re, o batla gore go fefosiwe ditirelo tsa Puso tse di amanang le madi.
Ke utlwa ke tshogela Tona Dikoloti fa go buiwa jaana, ka gore ke a itse ga gona bodiri jo bo ka kgonang gore bo dire gore madi a a dirisiwe gore a kgone go tlhabolola mohama o wa botsogo.

Ga go na le fa e le bodiri Mr Speaker...(inaudible)... o di utlwa ke di bua.

Ke tsone tse di tshwenyang mme yone e, ke batla go e gatelela ke leka go araba potso e Tona a neng a leka go e araba maabane mo Palamenteng fa ke bua ka professionals tsa botsogo gore go diragala eng.
Ke batla go nopola Mr Speaker, from the Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) Manifesto wa 2019 fa o ntetla, mme o kwadilwe ka puo ya Sejatlhapi… MR SPEAKER: Please do quote Honourable Member.

MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Mo tsebeng ya bo 78 ya Manifesto wa UDC wa 2019 fa go buiwa ka botsogo, ke ditsebe tse di yang kwa bofelelong jwa manifesto o, wa re, “UDC will employ more health professionals to achieve the staffing ratios that are consistent with the provision of quality healthcare.

UDC Government will increase the number of nurses and midwives by absorbing the trained health workers that are currently unemployed.
The second point; UDC will delink the health profession from the general civil service pay structure and develop and implement a retention strategy for nurses, doctors and other health professionals.

This will entail improvement of working of working conditions and reward the system of health professionals.” That is page 78 of the UDC Manifesto.

Fa re ne re... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR TSHERE: Let me take a clarification.


MR SPEAKER: Before you take a clarification Honourable Member for Mahalapye West, did I hear you close the quotation?

MR TSHERE: Yes, I closed the quotation sir.

Thank you.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much Honourable Tshere.

I thought it was Honourable Kekgonegile seeking clarification if I am not wrong.

28 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa rra, ke Morwaeng sir.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister Morwaeng, please go ahead Honourable Minister.

(MR FOR PRESIDENTIAL MINISTER PUBLIC AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND ADMINISTRATION MORWAENG): Clarification.

Motlotlegi Rre Tshere, ke a leboga gore o bo mphile clarification.

Mokaulengwe, a o a lemoga gore go bua le go dira ke dilo tse pedi tse di sa tshwaneng?
Jaaka o itse mokaulengwe re mo tirong re a dira, lona megopolo jaaka o bua o re le a kwala le batho ba le kwalang thata, gore gone mme ke tsaya gore o a tlhaloganya mokaulengwe gore go farologanye.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O go senyetsa nako.

MR MORWAENG: Nnyaa tlhe rra se nkgaoganye le tsala ya me.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ka bo o ne o mo akgolela gore o bone… MR SPEAKER: May we have order please Honourable Members!

Are you done Honourable Minister?

MR MORWAENG: Ee rra ke weditse.


Ke ne ke raya gore a supe pharologanyo.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member for Mahalapye West, please respond and continue with your debate.

MR TSHERE: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Maikaelelo a rona kwa UDC ke go tsaya Puso, re bo re netefatsa gore megopolo ya rona e a diragadiwa.

Gompieno re diragatsa ya Domkrag.

Ke sone se o bonang e palelwa jaana.


Jaanong fa ke boela mo kgannyeng e ke neng ke e bua, ke ne ke buisiwa mafoko a a neng ke a nopola mo maitlamong a UDC gore a re farologanyeng ka fa badiri ba botsogo ba duelwang ka teng gone jaana.

Re bo re ba duelela kwa thoko go na le badiri ba bangwe ba badirelapuso.

Ke gwetlhilwe jaana ke go utlwa o kare Tona a re scarce skill allowance o batla go se kganela.

Mr Speaker, ke phoso go akanya jalo fela.


Fa e seng jalo, go raya gore bodiredi jwa botsogo jo bo setseng mo seatleng, jo bo setseng kwa sepateleng gone jaana, bo tlaabo bo tsamaya fa e le gore scarce skill se tlaabo se emisiwa.

Mma ke go fe sekai ka nna ke mosupi, e bile ke arabe potso ya gore ke eng ke tlogetse kwa Marina.

Kwa Marina fa o le mo position e ke neng ke le mo go yone, o ne o fiwa scarce skill allowance as a biomedical engineer.

Re ne re fiwa 45 per cent scarce skill allowance.


Mo godimo ga moo, re ne re fiwa 15 per cent paramedic allowance.

Paramedic allowance Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, e ne e raya gore ke nna ke theogetse 24 hours, mo e leng gore ke ka nna ka bidiwa bosigo le motshegare le fa ke le kwa lelwapeng.

Bongwanake ba ne ba setse ba itse, re nna mo sepateleng.

Allowance eo ya 15 per cent, o e tlhakanya le 45 per cent, o kgona go bona gore madi a teng a mantsi jang.
Phoso e tswa fa Mr Speaker, fa madi ao o a tsentse mo salary e ke e amogelang, fa ke emelela ka payslip ya me ke ya kwa go ba mortgage kana ba koloinyana ke ya go batla koloi, I qualify for dilo tse di kwa tlase, ga ke kgone go itirela sepe.

Ga ke kgone le go batla mortgage le fa e le sepe, mme o ntse o amogela madi one a o a fiwang.

Le fa o ka re o reka dipodi ka one, ga o na go bona nako ya go ka di tlhokomela.

Jaaka ke bua, sepatela se dira 24 hours.


Motho wa sepatela o nna koo, fa e seng jalo o a bo o le mo malatsinyaneng a boitapoloso two days o ikhuditse.

Ke ipotsa gore Tona ke eng a akanya gore o ka emisa scarce skill allowance?

Ke sone se o utlwang ke bua ka delinking of the pay structure ya health professionals.

Kakanyo ya rona ke gore madi a scarce skill a tsenngwe mo basic salary.
Fa e le gore basic salary ya me ke P13, 000 mme madi a ke a amogelang ke P16, 000 a re simolole modiredi wa botsogo kwa go P16, 000 e nne basic salary.

Ke gone jaaka o ka emisa scarce skill Honourable Serame.

Ke gone re ka fitlhelelang se re batlang go se fitlhelela to delink.

Ba botsogo bone ba nne kwa godingwana, 55 per cent e nne part of their basic salary, ke gone batho ba ka tlhabologang.
Fa o tsamaya jalo o gata ditsela tseo, o boa o tlhabolola jaaka ke bua jaana Mme Serame, o bo o ntsha advertisement, in the next two months or so, o ya go bona badiredi ba botsogo ba ba batlang go boa, jaaka nna le bangwe re teng, re a eletsa.

Ke bua le Honourable Dikoloti, tswaya mo go hireng entry level, well, ba hire bao, mme focus mo middle management.

Gone jaana re tlhoka middle management.

Re ne re bua maabane gore secondary healthcare e phutlhame.
Re raya kwa district hospitals, go phutlhame, health professionals are not there.

Jaanong ba tsenye koo, hira at middle management, D2 level, D1, E1, E2 ke gone o ka bonang badiredi ba botsogo ba ba ...(inaudible)… Ke gone o ka bonang re tla sentle.

MINISTER OF INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AND COOPERATION (DR KWAPE): Point of clarification.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke kopa go botsa Motlotlegi Tshere gore... 29 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Ke mang yo o neng a batla clarification?

MR TSHERE: I thought it was the Vice President (VP).

DR KWAPE: Ee rra, ke Kwape sir.

MR SPEAKER: O buela kwa tlase ga re go utlwe, ke mang?

DR KWAPE: Ke Kwape mongwame.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, please go ahead.

DR KWAPE: Nnyaa, ke kopa tlhaloso mo go Motlotlegi Tshere gore a re a letlhoko le kwa godimo go na le kwa tlase?

A tsepame foo.
A tsepame foo.

Fa a re people be retained ka scarce skill ba ba kwa godimo, a o itlhomolosa ba ba kwa tlase?

A o utlwile Motlotlegi Minister fa a re go a go sekasekwa?

Ga a ise a re go a go emisiwa gore go bonale gore ke bafe ba ba sa tlhokafaleng gore ba bo ba le mo scarce skills seo.

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, I hope you heard him, I was struggling to hear him.

MR TSHERE: Nnyaa, ke mo utlwile nna, ke mo utlwile thata.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.


MR SPEAKER: Please go ahead Honourable Member.

MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Nnyaa Dr Kwape, ke ne ke sa reye gore ke itlhokomolosa ba ba kwa tlase.

Ke rile botlhe ba ba fiwang scarce skill, a salaries tsa bone di tsenye basic salary plus scarce skill e nne yone the new basic salary.

Ke gone re tlaabong re e delink.

Re bo re bona gore re ka ba duela jang, e le a form of re-attracting.
Fa ke bua ka ba ba fa godimo kana ba ba fa gare, ke bua ka secondary healthcare ya district level go na le Marina and others, but here we are talking about the middle managers.

Ke sone se ke reng a re hire batho mo seemong sa middle management le healthcare professionals.

Do not float an advert o batla batho kwa C1, C2, C3, float the advert o batle batho kwa D1, D2, D3, E1 and E2 at middle management level so that we can manage at middle management and not upper management.
Right now, ga re na middle management, re na le low management and upper management and now without the linkage yone eo, ke sone se o bonang botsogo bo pala.

Ke sone se ke neng ke bua maabane ke re botsogo bo a phutlhama at a middle management level in terms of the secondary healthcare that should be provided.

Eo ke ne ke e buisiwa ke gwetlhilwe ke Tona… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR TSHERE: …fa a bua ka scarce skill allowance.


Mma ke sianesiane ke tlaa le fa chance gape; just a minute, ke tlaa le fa chance.

Let me push tse pedinyana tse tharo.

E nngwe e ke neng ke batla gore ke akgele mo go yone Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, e ke a feta ka yone mme ke tlaa e bona kwa dikomiting.

Re tlaa tla re e lebelela thata kwa komiting ya ga Honourable Lesaso.

Ke e e buang ka solar.

Tona fa o bua thata ka photovoltaic generating capacities.
Ke ne ke ntse ke ngapana thata le Tona, o a itse ke mo raya fa o bua le batho ba tshwana le Mapalamente le Batswana ba ba reeditseng kwa ntle ba ba rutegileng, mme jaanong fa o ba bolelela o bo o sa kgone go ba tlhalosetsa gore feasibility study e dirilwe, ya re go ka nna jaana le jaana o bo o tla fela o nna o re ‘50 megawatts power plant kwa Jwaneng’ and then the following year o bo o tla gape …(Inaudible)… actually in yhis Budget Speech.
E bo e le gore jaanong go tla go supiwa gore kwa Jwaneng has bounced and six others.

Fa go sa ntshiwe lebaka Mr Speaker, gore investors tsa re di bone eng, tsa re mathata ke eng di ka se ke di bo di dire kgwebo le rona mo Botswana, golo moo go a tshwenya.

Ke tlaa e sala morago go e latedisa.

Fa re bua dilo tse Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore Matona ba reeditse.

Ba tshwanetse gore e re fa ba bua jaana ba kgone go re fa information e e more comprehensive re le Mapalamente.
Ga ke reye gore a tle ka buka yotlhe ya feasibility study a tle go e baya fa mme o ka re bolelela gore the feasibility findings di ne di reng le gone di dirwa ke mang ka ngwaga ofe.

Jaanong dilo tse ga di yo mo pegong e. So, mo re go utlwang mo ka solar initiatives ke mo o kareng re bua compositions tsa ngwana wa senior secondary.

Fa ke tswelela Mr Speaker, ke leboga thata Tona gore a bo a re o okeditse madi a bagodi ka P100; sejo sennye ga se fete molomo.
Re a mo utlwa mme ke tshwenngwa ke gore o tlogetse ba Ipelegeng.

Legale fa ke mmotsa kwa bothokong a bo a re o leka gore a oketse dipalo tsa bone instead ya gore a oketse madi.

Ke a mo utlwa gone moo mme ga go enough.

Re tshwanetse gore re dire thulaganyo e e tsepameng e e tlaa thusang batho botlhe.

Ke lebogile thata fa Tona a bua gore Department of Tertiary Education Financing (DTEF) e ya go fudusetswa (moved) kwa Ministry of Finance and Economic Development.

It is overdue Honourable Serame.


It is long overdue so that you can audit le go dira sengwe le sengwe re bone ka gore gompieno jaana 30 Hansard No 205Thursday 10th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) go na le ghost students mo tse re tlholang re di utlwalela le mo bobegadikgannyeng tse madi a rona a senyegang ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Tsenya leitlho mo go yone kgang e, le e tseye le lona le batle badiri.
Re se ka ra utlwa kamoso bana ba lela jaanong madi a le kwa go lona, lona ba madi le bo le palelwa ke go ba duela ka nako.

E bo e le gore bana ba felela ba tshwanelwa ke go tsena mo seterateng protesting ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Re tsaya gore ka gore jaanong a atumetse banking hall, o tlaa kgona gore o duele bana ba sekole ka nako, sengwe le sengwe se tlaa tsamaya ka thelelo se le kwa ministry wa gago.

Ga gona bana ba ba yang go busiwa kwa dikoleng ka ntateng ya gore ga ba a duelwa.
Se sengwe e le sa bofelo ke bo ke tsenya clarifications ke sa Botswana Railways (BR).

Mr Speaker, ke kile ka bua mo Ntlong e mo nakong e e fetileng gore kana Botswana Railways ke mokokotlo wa itsholelo ya motse wa Mahalapye.

Go dirilwe jalo kabomo ke ba ba tlileng pele ga rona.

Ba go dirile jalo gore motse wa Mahalapye o tle o akole sepe se se tlaa tswang mo Botswana Railways mme ke a tshwenyega Mr Speaker, ka gore mo dingwageng tsotlhe fa ke ntse ke ntse, Railways e itlhokomolositswe.
Ke ne ke na le bone ngwaga o o fetileng.

Ke tshaba le go ya kwa go bone ka gore fa re bua jaana, ga gona le fa e le epe nko e e tswang lemina.

Ba itlhobogile le bone mo motseng wa Mahalapye.

Motse wa Mahalapye o nna mosetlha ka ntateng ya sone seo Mr Speaker.

Re utlwile mo dingwageng tse pedi tse di fetileng gore go tlaa dirwa feasibility study ya Mosetse-Kazungula, e ntse ke puo fela le gompieno.
Ga go tlhalosiwe gore go tlhomilwe kompone, e dira thulaganyo eo e bile go solofelwa gore e tlaa fela leng.

Ga go buiwe le fa e le sepe ka dikgang tseo.

Go nna go ntse gotwe re tlaa dira Mosetse-Kazungula, Lephalale- Mmamabula.

So, dilo tse di a tshwenya ka gore fa di tima jaaka ke bua, failure to put money mo Botswana Railways directly affects the economy ya motse wa Mahalapye.

Jaanong tsweetswee, ke a lela Mr Speaker gore a ko re re eme ka dinao.
Ke kile ka bua jaana maloba ke re fa BR e ne e santse e dira sentle, population ya Mahalapye e ne e gola ka lebelo le le tsitsibanyang mmele.

Gompieno jaana fa e sale BR e wela kwa tlase, population ya motse wa Mahalapye e wela kwa tlase.

Selo se se a re tshwenya Mr Speaker mme e ne e le lenaneo le le neng le tla le siame jaaka go na le lenaneo le le dirwang kwa bo SPEDU.

Bo SPEDU ba isitswe kwa ka bomo gore ba ye go thusa Selebi Phikwe ka ditlamelo.
Jaanong fa e le gore Botswana Railways yone e tlaa tla e bo e sa tle go re thusa mo motseng wa Mahalapye, selo se se a re tshwenya.

Jaanong ke raya gore e re fa re ntse re dira re lebelele dilo tse tsotlhe.

Se sengwe se ke batlang go wela ka sone ke matlhotlhora a ke tlholang ke bua ka one a re a fiwang.

Ke lebogela thata gore North-South Carrier 2.2 Project ya Palapye-Mmaphashalala e etla e feta ka motse wa Mahalapye.

Kana le tlaa itse gore re okeditse matlhatso a metsi mo motseng wa Mahalapye.
Ka jalo, e tlaabo e connect e dira lines tse pedi tse di tlang mo motseng wa Mahalapye ka metsi.

Selo se re a se lebogela re le ba motse wa Mahalapye ka gore pipe e e tlang mo motseng wa Mahalapye e dikile e kgaogile.

Re ne ra lemoga gore go baya fela mo pipe e le nngwefela ga se one mogopolo o o siameng.

E tlaa re e fa e kgaogile kana e robegile, go bo go bereka e nngwe.
Ke leboga thata gore go bo go na le thulaganyo e e ntseng jalo mme e bile ke leboga thata gore go ya go nna le metsi kwa motseng wa Tewane, bogolo jang metse e e bapileng le Tewane ka yone thulaganyo e ya pipeline e e tswang kwa Palapye le Mmamashia.

Re a e amogela e bile re eletsa thata gore e diragale e bile e dirwe ka nako le ka fa go rulagantsweng ka teng (planned).

Kwa bofelelong Mr Speaker, ke batla go leboga thata ba motse wa Mahalapye ke lebeletse maduo a a neng a sa tswa go tswa a ditlhatlhobo.
Re santse re emetse a Form 5.

Re amogetse maduo a primary le junior.

Fa ke lebelela Mr Speaker, ke ne ke ile kwa dikoleng ngwaga o o fetileng.

Re ne re sokola (struggle) go tlola 90 per cent, ke bo ke ba beela seelo sa 90 per cent gore yo o mo tlolang o ya go fiwa sengwe mo Ofising ya Mopalamente.

Jaanong selo se go raya gore se ne sa ba kgothatsa (motivate) thata.
Ke bua jaana e le gore Tshikhinyega Primary School mo motseng wa Mahalapye e ne ya tshwara 90.1 per cent ya bana ba ba dirileng sentle mme e se yone fela Mr Speaker.

Fa o lebelela fa morago ga yone, e lomiwa serota ke St. James e e tlang ka 88 per cent.

Fa o leba fa morago ga yone e lomiwa serota ke Mahalapye Primary School e e tsamayang ka 84 per cent.

Fa o leba fa morago ga yone, e lomiwa serota ke Tamocha Primary School e e tsamayang ka 82 per cent.
O kgona go bona gore jaanong motse wa Mahalapye re ema ka dinao.

Ga ke ka ke ka gakgamala ngwaga o o tlang jaanong mo go yone mpho e e tswang mo Ofising ya Mopalamente e bo e le gore gongwe dikole di le tharo have qualified for it Mr Speaker ka fa ke bonang go tsamaya ka teng.

Ke a ba lebogisa.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Kwa junior schools, re santse re tshwere bothata.
Ke ne ke ba beetse seelo sa 50 per cent mme ga re ise re goroge koo.

Re santse re tsamaya kwa go bo 39 per cent, just under 40 per cent mme le gone ke rotloetsa thata gore re eme ka dinao re tshwaraganele kgang e le batsadi re kgone gore re ise thuto ya bana kwa pele ka gore bana ba ke jone bokamoso jwa rona.

Ke bone ba ba tlileng go re tsamaisetsa.

Ke bone Puso ya kamoso.


Fa re ka se ke re ele tlhoko thata gore bana ba rona ba a rutega, thutego e e lebaneng e e ka ba kgontshang gore kamoso ba kgone ba ise lefatshe le kwa pele, ka jalo e tlaabo e le thuto ya mahalahala mahalaloo.

Ga ke itse gore a ke na le nako Mr Speaker gongwe ke ne ke ka batla clarification nngwe e ke neng ke e tlogetse kwa morago.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshere, ga ke utlwe mokaulengwe.

MR TSHERE: Fa go sena clarification Mr Speaker ke lebogile thata.
Ke lebogela pego e neng Tona a e e fa.

E na le tsholofelo fale le fale, fa re tsayang gore re ka e e nwa moro teng.

Mme kana fa nne puo e ne e le dipitse, re ka bo re di palama.

Jaanong ke solofela gore Tona o tlaa tshwara mafoko a gagwe, gongwe a tle a re gogele kwa tsholofelong e re e solofetseng re le lefatshe la Botswana le Batswana ka kakaretso.

Ka mafoko a a kalo, ke a leboga thata Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente go mpha nako.

MR KABLAY (LETLHAKENG-LEPHEPHE): Thank you Mr Speaker.
Le nna rraetsho mma ke akgele mo go se Minister Serame a se re beileng pele.

Ke mo lebogele go bo a re file pego ya gagwe.

Mme pele ga ke tsena mo dikgannyeng ke dumedise ba Kgaolo e ke e emetseng ya Letlhakeng-Lephephe, ke re ngwaga o mosha.

Mr Speaker, ke ne ke tshogile ke sa itse itse gore Tona Serame tota e tlaa re mo letsatsing le a neng a eme a baya Palamente pele Budget ya gagwe, ke ne ke tshogile ke sa itse gore tota o tlile go e baya jang.
Ke lebile dikgwetlho tse di kanakana tse di lebileng Goromente wa rona.

E rile re sena go tlhophiwa ka 2019 dikgwetlho tsa nna dintsi mo go Goromente wa rona, jaanong ke ipotsa gore tota Minister o a go e simolola jang.

Ke a mo leboga thata gore o ne a nna fa fatshe a sela kwa le kwa, a bona gore mme fale le fale o ka se tlisa mo Palamenteng.

E bile a tlisa le madi tota a oketsegile go feta Budgets tsotlhe tse e kileng Palamente ya re di baya pele.
Ke dilo tse re di lebogelang, segolobogolo jang re lebile bolwetse jo jwa Corona, gore kana rra mekento e tsere madi a a seng kana ka sepe, mme go siame.

Go siame ka gore mekento e e ne e re sireletsa, e ne e sireletsa matshelo a Batswana, ka gore re le Goromente wa ga Domkrag ke sone se re neng ra se baya fa pele ga Batswana gore re tlhopheng gore re tle re sireletse matshelo a lona.
Mme se Tona Serame a se dirileng tota o ne a dira fela jalo bagaetsho gore madi ao a Corona… ga go na ope yo o tlaa lelang gore madi a senyegile, nnyaa, ke madi a e leng gore mongwe le mongwe o a a lebogela gore a dirile tiro e tona.

Gompieno a tsweletse matshelo a a sireletsega, re a kenta, bana ba rona ba a kentiwa kwa dikoleng, e le madi a e leng gore ke a lefatshe le la Botswana.
Re leboga rraetsho Tautona gore le ene o ne a eme ka dinao thata go bona gore thulaganyo yotlhe, go sireletsa matshelo a Batswana, go tsholetsa itsholelo ya lefatshe le ke selo se e leng gore ke toro ya gagwe.

Tautona rraetsho, ke tsaya gore fa e ka bo e ne e se tsone dikgwetlho tse di kanakana tse, tota o ne a na le vision.

O ne a na le toro ya gore lefatshe le o batla go le isa kae, o batla gore le phadisanye le mafatshe economically.
Jaanong ke se e leng gore rraetsho Tautona wa rona o na le kwa a batlang go isa lefatshe le teng.

Ke batla go mo lebogisa.

Le batho bangwe fa ba ka mmua jaaka ba mmua, mme ene le mothusi wa gagwe ba na le vision ya gore lefatshe le ba batla go le isa kae.

A re se ka ra ba felela pelo bagaetsho, a re se ka ra ba felela pelo re bone, kana ngwana o a mmona fa a ntse a gola gore, o ngwana o tota bogolong jwa gagwe o tlile go nna botlhale go le kae.
Tautona wa rona le mothusi wa gagwe re a ba bona gore tota ba na le pelo ya go tsaya lefatshe le ba le isa kae.

Ke dilo tse ke neng ke batla gore ke simolole ka tsone, e bile ka kwa ke batho ba ba ratang go bua thata ka itsholelo ya lefatshe, go tlhabolola motho.

Go tlhabolola motho economically, ke tse ba ratang go bua thata ka tsone.

Mr Speaker, ke lebogele thata rraetsho ditlhabololo tse di diragalang mo lefatsheng la rona.

Ditlhabololo tse di dirwang kwa Okavango ke tsa batho ba Letlhakeng.
Batho ba Letlhakeng ba kgona go tswa fa ba ya go dirisa ditlhabololo tseo, a di dirwa kwa Selebi Phikwe, Serowe, kana kae, fela fa di dirwa mo lefatsheng la rona Mr Speaker, ke a di lebogela, ka gore batho ba dikgaolo tsa rona ba tlaa di dirisa.

Ga e ka ke ya re batho ba kgaolo ya Letlhakeng, Shadishadi ba tsena kwa Selebi Phikwe kana Mahalapye go bo gotwe, nnyaa wena ka gore o tswa Shadishadi ga o ka ke wa dirisa ditlhabololo tse.

Ke tsa Motswana mongwe le mongwe.


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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Jaanong ditlhabololo tse re tshwanetse ra di lebogela.

Gompieno re utlwile Minister a bua gore go a go diriwa tsela e e tswang kwa Ramatlabama e ya Ramokgwebana, ke jaaka re dira.

E rile re tsaya Puso, re tlhola re ntse re bua le mo Dikgotleng gore Batswana betsho madi ga a yo, mme fa re bone madinyana re tlaa nna re latlhela.
Ga re ka ke ra dira sengwe le sengwe letsatsi le le lengwe fela, Roma ga a a agiwa letsatsi le le lengwe fela.

Re tlaa nna re latlhela ditlhabololo fa re bona thebenyana, kamoso re latlhela fale.

Ke jaaka rraetsho re tsamaya re bua mo Dikgotleng.

Jaanong ba bangwe fa ba feta ba re e ne e le mogopolo wa bone, nnyaa ga se mogopolo wa bone.

Mogopolo o ke wa rona o o ntseng o le teng, e le gore ga re na madi, ga re ise re bone gore re ka tsaya kae madi.
Jaanong gongwe gompieno re na le tsela ya gore re ka bona kae madi gore tsela e re tle re e dire.

Jaanong rraetsho ke se eleng gore ke batla go se lebogela, gore re tle re tswelele ka tsela e e diriwe.

Fa tsela e e diriwa go se ka ga lebalwa ditsela tsa rona, kana re na le mathata a matona le ditsela.

Dikgaolo tsa rona economically ga di tlhabologe, mo di neng di ka kgona go itirela madi ka botsone fa e ka bo ditsela di le teng.
Fa o tsaya tsela go tswa Molepolole o ya Moshaweng, o bo o ya Jwaneng, tsela eo e ne e le tsela e e neng e ka direla dikgaolo tsa rona madi, ka gore go ya Jwaneng o feta ka Moshaweng, o tsentse sekonotere o tswa Molepolole, batho ba le bantsi ba ka tsaya tsela e. Batho ba le bantsi ba ka kgona to save madi a dipeterolenyana, ba ne ba ka kgona go dira dilo di le dintsi, tse e leng gore tsela e e ne e ka ba thusa.

Jaanong ke kopa Minister gore, mmaetsho a ditsela tsa rona di se ka tsa lebalwa.
Re a lela re le Batswana, re sale re lela ka ditsela, ga re itse gore ke eng re sa arabiwe.

Ditsela tsa rona bo Mmantshwabisi, Malwelwe, Ngware, Diphuduhudu, Monwane le Moshebe ga go na ditsela.

Re beile fela mo tseleng e e leng gore it is graded, mme fa gongwe e le gore ke mathata, jaaka dipula di na jaana ga go na ope yo o ka tsamayang mo ditseleng tseo.

Re kile ra tsamaya le Minister a bona ditsela, gore di maswe jang.
Mme Minister ga a ise a bue sepe, o santse a didimetse, kana o santse a akanya namane e tona ga ke itse.

Kana fa mogolo a akanya ga a tsose modumo.

Ke tsaya gore o a akanya go bona gore ditsela tsa kgaolo ya me tota re ka di diradira jang.

Mme rra ke sone se ke neng ke re ke tle ke bue jalo.

Mr Speaker, re ka leboga thata rra.

Dikompone tsa batswakwa di jele lefatshe le, di jele madi a lefatshe le a le mantsi, ke sa reye gore ba ka se ke ba fiwe ditiro.
Dikonteraka tse di kanakana tse di fiwang ditiro di tsaya madi di ya go tlhabolola mafelo a ga bone kwa mafatsheng a bone.

Re na le dikonteraka tsa bana ba rona ba dira ditsela le dikago, e le gore ga ba bone ditiro, di tsewa ke dikonteraka tse di tswang go sele.

Mo e leng gore dikonteraka tseo rraetsho fa di dira e le tsa Batswana madi a tlaa felela mo Botswana.

MR BOKO: Clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke a go leboga thata Honourable Kablay.


Tota e bile ke ratile go lela ke reeditse mafoko a gago, a o ntseng o a bua gore o kare madi jaanong a a tsewa a ya kwa mafatsheng a sele, a bone boradikonteraka ba ba dirang ditsela, ba aga dikole, ga reng ga tse dingwe.

Borakonteraka ba na le dingwaga di le lesome ba ntse ba sa kgone go ja sepe.

O wela o reng mo kgannyeng e?


A ga o wele o re nnyaa mme bagarona enough is enough, a re lekeng jaanong go tsaya madi ao otlhe, ditiro tse tsotlhe re di neele bone borakonteraka ba Botswana, ba na le maitemogelo a a kwa godimo le bone, ba agile dikole, ba agile ditsela?
Is it not the right time jaanong gore nnyaa mme re reye ba ba tswang kwa ntle re re bagarona nnyaa mme le lekile le dirile, enough is enough, a re neeleng bana ba rona gore ba tle ba kgone gore madi a le one a kgone go felela mo lefatsheng la rona, a se ka a tswela kwa ntle?

Borakonteraka gompieno Honourable Kablay, ke itumelela gore you have raised kgang e and I nearly cried because ba ntse ba lelela mo go rona thatathata.

MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Speaker.


Ee rraetsho, ke yone kakanyo ya rona gore re ka itumela fa go ka nna jalo gore madi a felele mo lefatsheng le.

Lefatshe le rraetsho le a tlhabologa, ga le sa tlhole le tshwana le ka bo 1980, 1990, bo 2000.

Ke lefatshe le e leng gore malatsi a sengwe le sengwe re compete le mafatshe ka madi.

Kana ga o ka ke wa compete le ka ditiro, madi a felela re hira Batswana ba dira tiro mo lefatsheng la rona, le fa gongwe madi a ka tswa mme a sa tswe jaaka gompieno a tswa.
Ke selo se Mr Speaker, re se lebogelang.

Le dikonteraka tse dinnyennyane rraetsho le tsone di fiwa ditiro, madi a e leng gore ga a mantsi a neelwa tsa Batswana, ba hira Batswana ba dikonteraka bangwe mo lefatsheng la rona.

Ke dilo tse e leng gore Mr Speaker, re ka di lebogela thata.

Mathata ke gore dikonteraka tse dinnyennyane tse tsa ditsela le dikago ga ba duele labourers tsa bone.

Batho ba Modimo ba a ba berekela, fa ba tshwanetse gore ba ba duele kgwedi e fedile, ditori di nna dintsi.
Fa ba tshwanetse gore ba duele matlo a ba a hirisitseng go dira ditsela ampo go tsaya metsi mo batlhophing ba rona, ga ba duele.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) ba duele babereki ba bone.
Ke sone se e leng gore Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re dilo tse rraetsho re di lebe, re bone gore di ka dira jang ka gore Botswana ga e sa tlhole e le Botswana yole wa maloba.

Re rutile bana ba rona, ba botlhale, ba botsa dipotso tse dintsi tse e leng gore mo gongwe ga o na dikarabo tsa tsone.

Jaanong ke sone se e leng gore rraetsho, ke ne ke re ke fete ka sone.

Re a go leboga Minister.

P100 mmaetsho yo o re mo fileng o o fa bagolo ba rona le ba bangwe, ke maiteko a matona.

Ga gona ope yo o ka go fang P100.


Ka fa bangwe ba tlhobosa, ba bua tse ba di buang mme wena o dirile se o se kgonang.

O ne o sa batle go ikgolega o re o tlaa ntsha P1500, kamoso a bo a go palela, Batswana ba bo ba re oh!

Minister Serame ke motho yo o senang boammaaruri, a re o tlaa re neela P1500, o re mo neetse gangwefela e bile o paletswe.

Jaanong P100 yoo mmaetsho re a itse gore o tlaa mo oketsa.

O tlaa tswelela ka go nna o mo oketsa, o bona gore ngwaga o o tlang, le ene P100 o ka diradira jang.
Ke selo se e leng gore mmaetsho, ke ne ke re ke go leboge thata ka P100 yo, o tlaa thiba diphatlha, batsadi ba rona ba tlaa reka bo Five Roses le sukiri.

Mr Speaker, ke na le matshwenyego rraetsho a corruption mo lefatsheng la rona.

Ke gore dikgang di dintsi rra tsa tshenyetso-setšhaba.

Batswana ba re supa ka monwana re le party e e busang gore e ka re dilo dingwe ga di mo mpapananeng.

Dilo dingwe o kare re a di fitlha.


Gompieno go ne go na le kgang Mr Speaker, ya gore COVID-19 batho ba ntshitse madi; companies le mafatshe a ntshitse madi, lefatshe la rona le lone le ntshitse madi.

Jaanong Batswana ba na le tumelo ya gore madi a tota ga a dira se ba neng ba solofetse gore a ka se dira.

Ba tsaya gore madi a re le maDomkrag re a jele.

Jaanong re sale re ikuela gore a tota go ntshiwe statement.

A Minister go batlwe, ba tlhalose gore tota gatwe go tsamaile jang ka madi a Corona.
Madi a rraetsho a re tsenya mo teng rona re le Mapalamente.

Gongwe ke le Kablay jaana ke se kgakala, re batla madi a re sa itse gore gatwe go ne go ntshiwa bokae, go dirisitswe bokae.

Go pala eng go supa gore go dirisitswe bokae, a dirisiwa mo go eng, ga sala bokae?

Gompieno jaana re marwamarwa ka dipuo, rona ba bangwe ba re sa itseng sepe ka madi a Corona.

Fa ke feta gompieno ba re oh!

bona legodunyana le gotweng Kablay le, o jele madi a rona a COVID-19.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.


MR KABLAY: Ga ke itse sepe mme fela ka gore ke mo Domkrag, ke Mopalamente wa mo Domkrag, ke tsenngwa mo teng.

MR SPEAKER: Clarification sought.

Honourable Member for Ghanzi South.

MR MOTSAMAI: Clarification.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ga o bone go le botlhokwa Honourable Kablay gore gongwe se o se buang, e se ka ya nna gore o re Minister fela a ntshe report, e nne gore go dirwe mo gotweng ke forensic audit?
Go tsepame, go tsenelelwe mo teng thata, go hatwe, go bonwe gore gatwe madi a ile kae, a tsamaisitswe ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Ga o bone gone mo go le botlhokwa rraetsho, gore go go golole jaaka o bua gore gatwe le jele madi?

Ke a leboga.

MR KABLAY: Mr Speaker, ga ke bone go na le mathata ape.

Report, mathata a yone gore e ntshiwe, ke eng?

HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR TSOGWANE): Elucidation.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


Ke ne ke re gongwe e re fa o ntse o bua jaana motlotlegi, ke boammaaruri go tshwanetse gore dilo di tswele mo pontsheng.

Kana go a bo go supiwa maDomkrag ka monwana, o kare ke bone ba ba neng ba dirisa madi ao.

Madi a a ne a tswetse setšhaba go thusa mongwe le mongwe, batho ba tenders tendered mongwe le mongwe, jaaka le wena o itse, o ne o ba bona kwa dikoleng, kwa kae, kwa kae.
Jaanong ka gore report yone e re ka reng ke matlhagolela tsela, tshimolodiso ya go bona gore madi a dirisitswe jang a fund yone e. Report eo Kablay, you must also appreciate gore kana ba Auditor General ba setse ba e ntshitse.

Ba setse ba e begetse Palamente, ke report e gongwe re tlaa e buisanang fa go ntse go ya.
Gape o supe jalo gore report kana yone e dule, jaanong ke dingwe tsa ditiro tse re di beileng fa pele gore re ye go simolodisa go bona gore re e lebe, re e sekaseke, re bone gore a mme gatwe corruption.

Kana corruption rona jaaka o bua, re a e lwantsha.

That is why o bona le o kare e a bonala, e teng ka gore e a lwantshiwa.

E ne e fitlhegile mo dingwageng ee, gongwe go ne go sena twantsho e e kanang ka gompieno.

Jaanong ke ne ke re ka report rra ya audit, o e amogele gore yone re e bone.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: You sound like Zuma.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Zuma, keep quiet.

Honourable Kablay.

MR KABLAY: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ee rraetsho, kana ke a itse rra gore Goromente wa rona o eme ka dinao, ga a batle gore go nne go ntse gotwe re corrupt, re corrupt.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) HONOURABLE MEMBER: Viva Kablay viva!

MR SPEAKER: Let us have order please Honourable Member for Sefhare-Ramokgonami.

Order Please!

Honourable Kapinga, if he had ever read Shakespeare, he would remember someone quoting that “it is the bright day that brings forth the adder.” You seem to have ended the day very happily, and I know what the cause is.
On that note, as it is now six o’clock, I shall now call upon the Leader of the House, His Honour the Vice President, to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Let me move that this House do now adjourn because re berekile thata, e bile dipula di a na.

I thank you.

Question put and agreed to.


The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until Friday 11th February, 2022 at 9:00 a.m. tshwanetswe ke gore re di ntshe fa e le gore Palamente gongwe e tlaa di bua gore re ne re di buile, mme re dire gore Batswana ba itse.

Jaaka ke bua rraetsho, mo dikgaolong tsa rona ba a re kgokgontsha ka yone kgang e, mo tota re tshwanetsweng ke gore re tlhape diatla, ba ba amegang, ba sekisiwe fela gore nnyaa ba senyeditse setšhaba.
Re se ka ra fitlha ka gore fa re fitlha, Batswana ba tloga ba re belaela Mr Speaker.

Ke sone se ke neng ke re rraetsho, re ka leboga gore selo se se tswele mo mpaananeng jaaka o bua.

Mr Speaker, ke tsene mo Ipelegeng.

Rraetsho, kwa dikgaolong re beile mo Ipelegeng, botshelo jwa rona jaaka ke tlhola ke ntse ke bua, ke Ipelegeng.

Batho ba ga rona kwa dikgaolong ga go na ditiro, tiro fela ke Ipelegeng.

Fa ba sa e bereke, molelo ga o tuke kwa dikgaolong tsa rona.

Mr Speaker, re bonya re le Goromente.


Ga e ka ke ya re re sa le re bolelelwa ka Ipelegeng gore re ya go e baakanya, re ya go e dira ya segompieno, re ya go baakanya dikago ka Ipelegeng, re bo re ya go bolelela batho kwa dikgaolong tsa rona, go bo go nna mogolokwane kwa dikgaolong tsa rona, e bo e le gore gompieno Mr Speaker, ga go na sepe se se diragalang.

Ga re a tshwanela go dira jalo re le Goromente, le tlaa re bolaisa batho, ba tlaa re tlhoboga.
Fa e kare batho ba ntse ba duduetsa gore nnyaa, se se etla, Mopalamente o ne a tlile, e bo e le gore Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development o a itulela, le go tshikinyega tota ga o tshikinyege.

…(Interruptions) … o ka tlola.

Bone ga ke itse gore a tshoswane ga e ke e ba loma gore gongwe ba ka tlola.

Le didimetse fela, ga go na sepe se se diragalang.

No Mr Speaker, ga re ka ke ra tsamaisa lefatshe jalo.

Kana fa le re bolelela selo, re ya go se bolela kwa kgaolong, a bo le itulela.
Mr Speaker, se re se solofeditseng batho ka Ipelegeng, a seye go diragala.

A go buiwe le Local Government and Rural Development e eme ka dinao, e ye go bona gore ditsholofetso tse re nnang re di beile fa pele ga batho Mr Speaker, di tle di diragale, batho ba ga rona ba tle ba thusiwe.

Mr Speaker, ke tshwanetse ka bua jalo.

Kana ke mo go Goromente yo o busang, jaanong fa ke sa gakolole Goromente wa me, ke mang yo o tlaa mo gakololang?

Ga ke tlhasele Goromente, ke bua ….


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le fa o ka mo tlhasela Goromente, ga go re sepe Honourable Kablay.

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