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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 17 FEBRUARY 2022 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 205 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon.

Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP.

DEPUTY SPEAKER Hon.

P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP.

(Tonota) Clerk of the National Assembly Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel Assistant Clerk (E) His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP.

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP.


(Boteti West) CABINET - President - Vice President - Ms B. N. Dithapo - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe - Advocate L. O. Tlhowe - Mr R. Josiah Hon.

K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP.

(Molepolole South) - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

K. T. Mmusi, MP.

(Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon.

Dr L. Kwape, MP.

(Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon.

K. K. Autlwetse, MP.


(Specially Elected) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon.

K. S. Gare, MP.

(Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

P. K. Kereng, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism Hon.

Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP.

(Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon.

T.M.

Segokgo, MP.

(Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon.

K. Mzwinila, MP.
K. Mzwinila, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon.

T. M. Rakgare, MP.

(Mogoditshane) - Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development Hon.

A. M. Mokgethi, MP.

(Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon.

P. O. Serame, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon.

F. M. M. Molao, MP.

(Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Hon.

Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP.


(Tati East) Hon.

L. M. Moagi, MP.

(Ramotswa) - Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology - Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security Hon.

M. Kgafela, MP.

(Mochudi West) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

M. R. Shamukuni, MP.

(Chobe) - Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development Hon.

E. M. Molale, MP.

(Goodhope-Mabule) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Hon.
D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP.

(Gaborone South) - Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

S. N. Modukanele, MP.

(Lerala -Maunatlala) Hon.

T. Monnakgotla, MP.

(Kgalagadi North) Hon.

M. M. Pule, MP.

(Mochudi East) Hon.

M. S. Molebatsi, MP.


(Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

S. Lelatisitswe, MP.

(Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon.

N. W. T. Makwinja, MP.

(Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon.

B. Manake, MP.
B. Manake, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

H. B. Billy, MP.

(Francistown East) Hon.

A. Lesaso, MP.

(Shoshong) - Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency Hon.

L. Kablay, MP.

(Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon.

Dr U. Dow, MP.

Hon.


P. Majaga, MP.

Hon.

M. Balopi, MP.

Hon.

J. S. Brooks, MP.

Hon.

C. Greeff, MP.

Hon.

T. Letsholo, MP.

Hon.

T. F. Leuwe, MP.

Hon.

T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP.

Hon.

Dr T. Matsheka, MP.

Hon.

S. N. Moabi, MP.

Hon.

P. K. Motaosane, MP.

Hon.

O. Regoeng, MP.

Hon.

J. L. Thiite, MP.


Specially Elected Nata-Gweta Gaborone North Kgalagadi South Gaborone Bonnington South Kanye North Takatokwane Gaborone Central Lobatse Tati West Thamaga-Kumakwane Molepolole North Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon.

D. Saleshando, MP.

(Leader of the Opposition) Hon.

M. G. J. Motsamai, MP.


(Opposition Whip) Maun West Ghanzi South Selebi Phikwe West Mahalapye East Sefhare-Ramokgonami Ngami Okavango Maun East Bobonong Selebi Phikwe East Palapye Nkange Mahalapye West Francistown West Hon.

D. L. Keorapetse, MP.

Hon.

Y. Boko, MP.

Hon.

Dr K. Gobotswang, MP.

Hon.

C. K. Hikuama, MP.

Hon.

K. K. Kapinga, MP Hon.

G. Kekgonegile, MP.

Hon.

T. B. Lucas, MP.

Hon.

K. Nkawana, MP.

Hon.

O. Ramogapi, MP.

Hon.

Dr N. Tshabang, MP.

Hon.

D. Tshere, MP.

Hon.


M. I. Moswaane, MP.

Hon.

T. S. Khama, MP.

Hon.

L. Lesedi, MP.

Hon.

B. Mathoothe, MP.

Hon.

M. Reatile, MP.

(Botswana Patriotic Front) Serowe West Serowe South Serowe North Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon.

W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.
W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.

Francistown South (Alliance for Progressives) TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 17th FEBRUARY, 2022 CONTENTS PAGE (S LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME.........................................................................................18-26 GOVERNMENT BILL Appropriation (2022/2023) Bill, 2022 (No.
2 of 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)......................................................................................................1-17, 27-55 Thursday 17th February, 2022 THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) MR NKAWANA: Procedure.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Maloba fa re kgaogana foo ke ne ke na le balance ya 5 minutes.

Jaanong o nthuse ke itse gore a ke tlaa tla ke mmona, 6 o’clock o tšhaile ke saletswe ke 5 minutes.
P R A Y E R S * * * * APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER (MR MOATLHODI): Order!

Order!

Good morning Honourable Members.

When the House adjourned yesterday evening, Honourable Assistant Minister for Local Government, Honourable Member for Kgalagadi North, Honourable Talita Monnakgotla was on the floor, and she is left with 15 minutes 43 seconds.
OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MS MONNAKGOTLA): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke dumedise batlotlegi ke bo ke go dumedise le wena Mr Speaker.

Ke dumedise batho kwa Kgalagadi, ke leboge le bone barutabana le staff sa kwa Matsha College.

Gone ba itekile ba dirile sentle mo maduong a Form 5, ba tsere position 14 out of 54 schools.

Fela jalo ba tswelele pele.

Mr Speaker, mma ke tswelele ka kgaoganyo ya madi, ke supe gore balwetse ba rona ba tsamaya mesepele e meleele.
Ba tsamaya 100 kilometres (km) ba ya referral kwa Princess Marina Hospital mo Gaborone.

Re tlhokana le district hospital mo Kgaolong ya Kgalagadi North, gore re kgone go fokotsa mosuke o o kalokalo kwa Marina.

Fa ke tsweletse jalo mo pegong, ke lemogile gore Kgalagadi North ke Kgaolo e e bophara.

E re go ntse jalo, e tlhaelelwa ke ditsela.

Kana ditsela fa di seyo, ditlhabololo di a diega.

Ditsela ke tsone tse di dirang ditlhabololo le communication ya network.
Jaanong fa dilo tse di seyo Mr Speaker, ditlhabololo di nna bonya jaaka re bona kwa Zutshwa Salt Pan go tlhokana le sekonotere, fela tsenngwa sekontere jaaka go ditlhabololo di tlaabo di nna teng.

Banni ba Kgaolo ya Kgalagadi North ke barui ba dihutshane, re a itse gore matlhabelo a dihutshane a bulwa kwa Tsabong kwa Kgalagadi South.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Nkawana ke kopa gore o se ka wa nkgoreletsa, I am debating.
MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, Honourable Nkawana o eme ka procedure iketleng pele bagaetsho.

O se ka wa tshwenngwa ke batho bao Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Selebi Phikwe Botlhaba, o setse ka 3 minutes.

Ke ntse ke itse gore Morena wa me the substantive Speaker of the House, o ne a ntekodisa gore o go romile golo gongwe.

Ke ntse ke ithaya ke re gongwe o gone koo kwa kgakala.

Ke tlaa go sukunyetsa, ke tlaa go fa sebaka sa gago Honourable Member.

O se ka wa tshwenyega.

MR NKAWANA: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Member for Selebi Phikwe East.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke ne ke bua ka matlhabelo a dihutshane a a kwa Tsabong, ke kope Tona wa ditsela Segokgo gore Tona, re kopa tsela ya Hukuntsi-Tsabong e e fetang ka Mabuasehube gore re kgone… LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Procedure Mr Speaker.

Gongwe ke botse go se kae ka procedure e Nkawana a e boditseng.
Kana Honourable Nkawana yo re mo ratang thata, o ne a bidiwa and he was not present, mme a itse gore he was holding the floor.

Fa a bidiwa he was not present and record stand as such, gore he was not present in the House.

O tswa go inoga kwa a inogileng teng the next day or some days after, a bo a re jaanong ke gone a akanyang gore o na le balance.

He did not respond go fitlhela mongwe a bua side remark, ga se Speaker yo o rileng ke mo romile.

Mongwe o ne a bua a re ga a yo o ile golo gongwe.


The moment you leave and you do not respond fa o bidiwa, you loose your slot Mr Speaker.

It is as straight forward as that.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Your Honour… HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)…o re ke romilwe.

1 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: …a re iketleng pele.

I could not agree more with Your Honour, fela jaaka o bua gore nnete e ntse jalo.
Fa pharologanyo Your Honour ke gore, Morena wa me yo ke leng letsogo la gagwe o ntekodisitse gore o romile Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Selebi Phikwe Botlhaba.

Ke tsaya gore le nako ya a bidiwa, go ne ga lebalesega gore o romilwe.

Ka jalo fa a romilwe, o a bo a ntse a le mo Palamenteng e le fa a ne a romilwe kwa a neng a romilwe teng.
Ka jalo Your Honour and Honourable Members, ke tshwanelo ya rona re le boeteledipele go neela Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Selebi Phikwe Botlhaba slot sa gagwe sa 3 minutes se se setseng.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gape Vice President o tshwanentse go gakologelwa gore re mo maranyaneng, network ga di tshware sentle…(Inaudible)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member for Ngami.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Oh sorry Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you sir.

Honourable Assistant Minister of Local Government and Rural Development.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re utlwile Mr Speaker, Sorry, re utlwile tlhaloso.

Itse fela gore ke precedence which we are setting, le rona e tlaa re motho a romilwe a ile mafatsheng, a ne a tshwanetse go bua, fa a boa koo Palamente e santse e le on, a bo a fiwa slot sa gagwe.

Thank you.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Your Honour.

Honourable Assistant Minister of Local Government, we are on a timed debate a re se ka ra dia nako.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Speaker.


Ke tswelele ka ke ne ke bua ka tsela e e yang kwa matlhabelong a Tsabong a dihutshane.

Tsela e, e ya go re thusa fela thata ka re barui, re le Kgalagadi North.

E bile gape e ya go re thusa le mo bojanaleng.

Tona Segokgo, lebelela kgang eo.

Ga se tsela eo fela e e tswang mo Hukuntsi e ya Tsabong, go na le e e tswang mo Hukuntsi e ya kwa Ncojane, le yone e lebelele.

E na le mafelo a a tshwanang le Mmono, Ncaang, Ngwatle, Ukwi.
Ke lebelela gore ditsela tse di ka tsisa ditlhabololo.

Ke a dumela gore itsholelo ya lefatshe le, sepatšhe sa Puso se kokonetswe fela thata Mr Speaker.

Re bona go na le budget deficit mme ke dumela gore re ka dirisa lenaneo la Public Private Partnerships (PPPs) bogolo jang mo go direng ditsela.

A Tona a lebelele lenaneo le.

Fa ke tsena mo go tsa Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services; lephata le le abetswe 30 per cent of Development Budget.
Batswana ba kgone go bona metsi kwa dikgaolong tsa bone jaaka re na le project ya metsi ya Ncojane-Hukuntsi.

Batlotlegi ba bangwe ba letse ba bua.

Motlotlegi Matsheka le Motlotlegi Regoeng ba letse ba bua ka metsi.

Dilo tse re a di lebogela mo Pusong e. Re tlile go bona metsi.

Re amogela project e ka gore re sale re nna mo lenyoreng dingwaga tse dintsintsi.

Tona, le fa e le gore project ya kwa Ncojane-Hukuntsi e e tsisang metsi e ka fela, lebelela metsi a leruo.
Kwa Kgalagadi North ga re na metsi a leruo.

Re na le underground water e e letswai fela thata.

Kgomo ga e kgone go a nwa.

Jaanong fa o fetsa ka metsi a Tona, lebelela banni ba kgaolo ya Kgalagadi, ba ikaegile thata ka leruo go tokafatsa itsholelo ya bone.

Ke bue ntlha e nngwe e botlhokotlhoko kwa Kgalagadi North, ke letlhoko la mafudiso a leruo.

Tona wa Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services, ga re na mafudiso.
Lefatshe la rona bontsi le ne la tsewa ke Wildlife Management Areas (WMAs), bogolo re nne le mafudiso, re tokafatse itsholelo ya rona.

Re bone bana ba rona le dikokomane ba tshela botoka.

Kgaolo ya Kgalagadi North e rebotswe go nna planning area mme re itse seemo sa itsholelo mo kgaolong e. Private physical planners must be engaged.

Ka jalo, ke kope Tona Mzwinila gore ka tsweetswee, kwa Kgalagadi ba nthomile, ba re a land board e thusiwe ka bodiredi jwa physical planners ka gore re a turelwa.
Ba a lela, re a itse gore madi ga a yo.

Dilo tse ke di baya fa pele mo kgaoganyong ya madi.

Itsholelo ya Kgalagadi North e ikaegile thata ka thuo.

Barui ba metse ya Kang, Inalegolo le Phuduhudu ba santse ba emetse kampa ya Artificial Insemination (AI) kwa Phuduhudu.

Tona Gare, dilo tse ke a itse gore lemmenyana le kwa tlase, lebelela gore ba nna le dilo tseo.
Ntlha e nngwe e ke batlang gore e bua thata le Tona Mmusi ke gore re le balemi-baruri kwa Kgalagadi, re a lela ka bogodu jwa leruo, bo golela kwa pele.

Oketsa fela jaaka Botswana Meat Commission (BMC) e oketsa ditlhwatlhwa.

Re lwa le magodu.

Ke kope Tona Gare gore oketsa veterinary officers.

Re na le letlhoko la dikoloi.

Re a itse gore bogologolo boralephalo ba ne ba dirisa dikuta.
O tsise dikuta gore e re fa re ya go kenta, re kwadisa dikgomo tse, veterinary officers ba kgone go... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification motho wa mme.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Nnyaa rra, ga ke na nako.

Ba boe gape ba kgone go nna le mo go botoka.

Mr Speaker, kwa kgaolong ya rona re tshwenngwa ke dibatana.

Ke 2 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) bue le Tona ke re, dituelo tseo di kwa tlase.
O kope madi gore balemi-barui ba atswiwe mo go botoka, e bile ka nako.

Mr Speaker, kgaolo ya Kgalagadi North e dikaganyeditswe ke national parks tse tharo.

Ke kope Tona Kereng gore, re santse re lebeletse gate e e ka fa Central Kalahari Game Reserve (CKGR), tota banana ga ba na ditiro.

Re bone gore ba itlhamela ditiro.

Re emetse cultural village e e fa Phuduhudu jaaka o ne o bua.

Dilo tse di batla re direle bana ditiro.

tswe fa gare ga motse, bana ba tshamekela foo.


Jaanong ba a kopa batho bale ba Kgalagadi North gore airport e e fa gare ga motse wa Hukuntsi, e ntshiwe ka gore e setse e na le lefelo Mr Speaker... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Correction.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke mang, Leuwe?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke Motsamai.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ee rra.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke mang, ke Rre Leuwe?

Mr Speaker, ke fa Rre Leuwe.


MR SPEAKER: Ke go utlwile motlotlegi, re tlaa bitsa Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Takatokwane.

MR LEUWE: Point of clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker and good morning.

Thank you Honourable Monnakgotla.

Ke kope Tona gore a baakanye lefoko la ‘boralephalo.’ Go lebega e se lefoko le le official Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke a leboga motlotlegi.

Boralephalo ke raya bakenti kwa dikgaolong tsa rona.

Re tlhaelelwa ke bakenti bogolo jang ba dikgomo.


Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Leuwe ka kgakololo eo.

Kgang e nngwe e ke batlang go e baya Ntlo e pele ke gore Tona wa Lephata la Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security a lebelele electricity connection fee bogolo jang ya bagwebi ba ba kwa metseng ya Remote Area Development Programme (RADP).
Mr Speaker, go botlhoko thatathata go bona motho yo o batlang go dira shop kgotsa bara kwa Zutshwa mme a tshwanetse go duela fee e e lekanang le ya motho yo o kwa Hukuntsi.

Go bokete mo go ene ka gore kwa Zutshwa batho ba ba nnye, e bile gape itsholelo e kwa tlase.

Kgwebo ya gagwe ga e ye go boelwa ka bonako.

Ngwana yo o kwa Zutshwa o tlhokana le go bereka, o tlhokana le ditiro.

Jaanong a lebelele fee eo gore bagwebi ba ba gwebang kwa RADP kgotsa at the settlements ditlhwatlhwa tsa bone di ye kwa tlase.
Electricity connection fee ya bone e ye kwa tlase gore metse eo e tlhabologe, e kgone go nna mentle Mr Speaker.

MR MOTSAMAI: Point of correction.

Ke go baakanyetse gore ga se airport ke airstrip.

Airport go tewa mo go magasigasi.

Ba tloga ba go tima ditlhabololo ba re magasigasi a kwa go wena.

Thank you.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamai ka kgakololo eo.

Airstrip e e fa gare ga motse e e kwa Hukuntsi, e tlhokana le gore e fudusiwe.

Banni ba motse ba tshaba go feta foo, le bana.


E borai mo matshelong a batho.

Ke a leboga.

Ke bue gore re a itse gore madi a Constituency Community Project (CCP) a kgonne go tswa.

Re a itse gore bogolo jang at the settlements tsa RADP, gore ba tlhokana le gone go agelwa didiba jaaka metse e e tshwanang le Phuduhudu.

Madi a a mannyennyane.

A go lebelelwe gore tota re ka ba thusa jang ka gore re ba fa dipodi le dikgomo.

Re ka ba thusa ka dilo tse.


Kgang e nngwe e ke batlang go akgela mo go yone ke gore tota ke utlwile Motlotlegi Saleshando, Leader of the Opposition (LOO) a bua gore kana re le Bathusa Tona ka kwano, ke le Mma Monnakgotla, Rre Modukanele le Motlotlegi Pule re bantsi e bile re tlile go utswela Puso.

Mr Speaker, ga se ise re nne magodu.

Re tsene mo Palamenteng fela jaaka Motlotlegi Saleshando a tsene.

Kwa dikgaolong tsa rona ba ne ba re a boele mafoko ao kwa morago, ‘legodu’.
Kana o bua se e leng gore wena o a se itse, go raya gore ke ene legodu.

Jaanong dilo tse ga se dilo tse di siameng go bitsa motho yo mongwe o re legodu mme a ise a nne legodu, e le ngwana a bereka le morafe.

Ga se selo se se siameng go bitsa yo mongwe legodu.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Procedure, the voice resembles that of Honourable Member for Ngami.

Re na le airport mo motseng wa Hukuntsi e e fa gare ga motse.
Tona Segokgo, re a itse gore madi a mannyennyane, tota morafe o setse o tshaba go feta fa tlase ga airport ele.

Planes di tsaya balwetse teng.

A e MR HIKUAMA: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke ne ke re gongwe o re gakolole gore a mme go mo tsamaisong gore Tona a reye Honourable Member of this House a re ke legodu mme a itse fela 3 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gore se se neng se buiwa ke Honourable Member ke gore fa maphata a Puso a okametswe ke Matona a le four, ke tshenyetso-setšhaba; ke go senya madi a setšhaba?

A mme golo moo o go bona go tshwanetse gore a go dirise gore a re yo mongwe ke legodu?

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Hikuama.

First of all, ema pele ke go reye ke re two wrongs do not make a right.
Fa e le gore go na le puo e e rialong, o se ka le wena wa tla ka e nngwe ya gore Matona a le four ke jaaka o bua, Matona a tlhophiwa ke Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona under his conditions that he is aware of.

Kgangkgolo fa ke e o e buang ya gore mongwe Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Ntlo e o teilwe gotwe ke legodu.

Motlotlegi Mmaetsho Mothusa Tona, ke kopa gore a ko o bue ke go utlwe.

I was still conferring with our Clerks here.

Did you indeed say someone is a thief here?


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mme kana o mo utlwile.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Mr Speaker, se ke se buileng ke gore Motlotlegi Saleshando o rile a re jaaka re tlhophilwe re le bantsi re le mo Local Government re le Assistants re le bararo, re tlile go utswela Puso madi, salaries tse re di amogelang jaana, go raya gore ke tsa bogodu.
Batho ba kgaolo ba bo ba gakgamala gore, ‘a jaanong wena o ile Palamenteng ka bogodu, re go tlhophile o ile go re buelelela, jaanong kwa o a utswa.’ Ga ke itse fa ke utswa Mr Speaker.

Jaanong fa o bua selo, go raya gore ke wena o se dirang.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Ema pele Motlotlegi Mothusa Tona.

Ga ke ise ke utlwe kgang ya ga Motlotlegi Honourable Mopalamente wa kwa Maun Bophirima a bua kgang eo gompieno.
Ke wena o tshwereng slot mme kgang e ke batlang go e utlwa ke gore Honourable Hikuama o ntse a mpolelela gore o a re mongwe ke legodu.

Ke yone e ke batlang go e utlwa.

A o ne o rialo kana ga o a rialo?

O rile mang ke legodu fa e le gore o ne o rialo?

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Mr Speaker, ke tlaa nna ke ntse ke boelela gape.

Motlotlegi Saleshando fa a akgela (debate) o rile Bathusa Tona ba bararo kwa Local Government le Tona mme golo koo tota ga ba dire sepe, ba ile go utswela Puso madi.
Ke bo ke re mme jaanong batho ba Kgalagadi North ba ntlhophile gore ke tle go ba buelelela mo Palamenteng le bone e bile ba bo ba re ‘ga re itse fa re go romile bogodu mme e bile re go itse fa o se legodumo ngwana wa rona jaaka Motlotlegi Saleshando a bua gore o ile koo o oile go utswela Puso madi.’ Jaanong ke re ke tlhophilwe jaaka Motlotlegi Saleshando a tlhophilwe go nna mo Palamenteng.

Rotlhe re tlhophilwe jalo, jaanong ga ke itse gore a ke tsene mo ke le legodu.
Fa e le gore o bua ka bogodu, ke ene a bo itseng.

Go raya gore fa o bua selo, tota o a bo o se itse.

Ke ne ke re ke ema go le kalo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Let us have order, please.

Ke mo emeleditse jaana ka gore Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Ngami had stood on a point of procedure.

So, we cannot have two procedures standing on one floor.
Fa e le gore ke sone se o se buileng se, I regret I will have to call for a Hansard so that ke tle ke bale exactly se o se buileng, exactly se ke se bonang, then I will be able to give a fair judgment.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke kopa go tswelela Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: I have made a ruling on that matter.

We cannot have a procedure on the matter that I have just ruled upon.

I have just ruled on this matter.


We are going to wait for a Hansard and I will be able to give a fair judgment, either me or my boss will be able to reflect on the matter.

Finish up your statement.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Mr Speaker, fa o dira judgment, le sone statement sa ga Saleshando… MR SPEAKER: I have ruled on the matter Honourable Minister, please migrate to a new point.

Please, migrate to a new point Honourable Minister!

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Speaker.


Mma ke tswale ka gore Mr Speaker, ke dumalana le budget e ya ga Motlotlegi Mme Mma Serame.

Ke dumalana le yone jalo ke re a Tona Gare jalo a lebelele gore kwa Kgalagadi North, re barui ba dikgomo le dihutshane mme go a tura.
Ke kopa Tona gore mo kabong ya madi e e tlang Mr Speaker, a lephata la gagwe le akanyediwe botoka, a itse gore re tshwanetse gore mme fela jalo re bo re kope mananeo a tshwana le Livestock Management and Infrastructure Development Programme (LIMID) le Integrated Support Programme for Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD).

Ka jalo, ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Thank you.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Assistant Minister of Local Government.

The slot that is now coming up is for the opposition.

Yesterday evening, Honourable Lesedi of Serowe South had indicated to contribute but I need to call upon Honourable Nkawana to balance up his time.

When he finishes, I shall be calling upon Honourable Lesedi to take his slot.

Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Selebi Phikwe Botlhaba.

thusa.
thusa.

Ke ba kopela mo go Tona gore a e re fa a ntse a adima madi kwa mafatsheng a itse gore re na le batho mo gae ba e leng gore ke batlhoki ba ba tlhokanang le thuso gore re ba ntshe mo manokonokong a matshelo a a tshwanang le a botlhoki, gore le bone ba tshele botshelo jo bo botoka jaaka batho ba lefatshe le go utlwalang fa le humile le la rona la Botswana.

Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker.

MR NKAWANA (SELEBI PHIKWE EAST): Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker.
Video ya me ga e ka ke ya bonala ka gore fa ke leng teng, network ya makgoa ga e a nna sentle.

Mr Speaker, maloba fa nako e ne e ntšhaela ke santse ke bua, ke ne ke le on floor ke bua ka gore re tshwanetse ra simolola go itse gore lefatshe lotlhe le simolotse go dirisa green technology le gore re leka go fokotsa kgotlelo ya loapi.

E bile ke supa gore nngwe ya dilo tse di tshwenyang ke coal e re dumelang gore re na le yone re re re tlaa dira power stations tse e leng gore they will be coal-powered.
Re tshwanetse ra simolola gore go ya pele re bone gore coal ya rona ka gore yone e ntsintsi re bone gore re ka e dirisa jang.

Nngwe ya dilo tse bangwe ba tleng ba bue gore di ka dirwa is to extract domestic gas and industrial gas e re ka e dirisang re sa kgotlele tikologo ka go fisa coal.
Mr Speaker, ka nako ya me e khutshwane mme dikgang di dintsi, ke ne ke re ke supe gore kgang ele e ke neng ke e bua ya gore Village Development Committees (VDCs) le Ward Development Committees tse di mo ditoropong a di okelediwe madi.

E se ka ya nna kgang ya molomo, mme e bile madi one a go buiwang ka one gore ke P100, tota ga se sepe fela, ke fela ka gore ditlhopho di gaufi.

Keletso ya me ke gore, re tshwanetse go ba okeletsa fela mo go bonalang gore ba dire tiro ya bone ka botlalo.
Ke supe gape gore dikgang tse di tshwanang le go okeletsa bagodi le batlhoki, le batho ba ba tshelang ka bogole, ba se ka ke ba kgona go ikela gope, le bone ke ba soboke le mo go ba bangwe gore, a batho ba botlhe go itsiwe gore kana botshelo gompieno bo kokonela mongwe le mongwe, le ba ba reng ba a kgona tota.

Fa e le gore bo kokonela bakgoni, ba ba sa kgoneng bone P100 tota o a bo a tlaa dira eng, ka gore o felela fela mo khombing fa ba ile go reka dijo.
Taxi gompieno ke P30 jalojalo mo ditoropong le kwa ntle.

Mme fa o mo okeleditse ka one ao go raya gore ga o a oketsa sepe mo botshelong, metlakase e ile kwa godimo, Botswana Housing Corporation (BHC) e okeditse, metsi a oketsegile, go raya gore batho ba fa re ba okeletsa jaana madi a teng a setse a tlhaeletse kgakala go goroga go ba MR LESEDI (SEROWE SOUTH): Mma ke go dumedise Mr Speaker, mma ke go leboge.
Mma ke dumedise batlotlegi mo Ntlong e. Mma ke dumedise ba gaMmangwato, bogolo jang kwa kgaolong e ke tswang kwa go yone, ke ba reye ke re, re tsogile, re teng, ga go na sepe ba ka bo ba utlwile.
Mme mma ke supe fa gore fa ke simolola mo tshimololong e ya me ya kgang e ya Budget Speech, ke supe gore ke le nosi ke dumela gore gongwe kgaoganyo ya madi e, jaaka gongwe fa mongwe a kile a bua fa pele ga me, go a lebega gore fa e dirwa ga go elelelwe go bona gore cake e e kgaoganngwa Batswana go yeng ka fa e ka ba lekanang ka teng.
Gongwe sengwe sa dilo tse ke ka reng fa ke bua jaana ke di lebe ke gore, jaaka fa National Development Plan (NDP) 11 projects tsa yone di felela kana di ya kwa bokhutlong, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore metse, jaaka fa re simolola go agiwa go tsweng kwa Dikgotlaneng ka VDC le baeteledipele ba motse go aga ka fa ditlhabololo di tsamayang ka teng, motse mongwe le mongwe, kgaolo nngwe le nngwe e ne e dirile ditogamaano tsa yone, ga ba ga tsenngwa on the plan, go supega gore e tlaa re ka ngwaga wa gore le gore go dirwe sennanne.
Fa e le gore jaanong mo nakong e re buang re le mo go yone e go lebega projects tse dingwe di ka runya di se on the plan, go raya gore go possible gore sengwe le sengwe se e leng letlhoko la batho kwa dikgaolong tsa rona se ka dirwa.

Kana re ne re dumela gore plan jaaka fa e tlaabo e dirwa e direlelwa gore e tle e latedisiwe ka gore go bonwe eng that can fund projects tse di mo go yone.
Mme fa e le gore go tlhaga sengwe se se seng mo go yone, mme go dumelesega gore it can funded, fa e le gore kgang e e ka nna boammaaruri, go raya gore gongwe re simolole go leba ka leitlho le sele.

Mma ke supe jaana Mr Speaker, gore ke na le matshwenyego a a seng kana ka sepe fa ke e fa sekai ka kgaolo ya me fa ke le kwa Lephateng la Thuto.

Ke na le dikole tse e leng junior secondary schools that are boarding; boarding junior secondary schools, jaaka sekole sa Mothamo le Radisele.
Dikole tse ga di dire sentle mo maduong gotlhelele.

E bile gongwe se se leng 5 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) worse le go gaisa ke sa Mothamo, ka gore bonno jwa bana ba ba kwa sekoleng sa Mothamo ga bo itumedise le e seng.

Kana fa o tsaya dipalo tsa sekole sa Mothamo, gone jaana o tsaya Form 1, Form 2, Form 3 jaaka fa e le junior, enrolment ya bone e le 1,175 mo go bone ba ba le 800 are boarding.
O ka bona gore ruri ke bohutsana.

Kana sekole sa Mothamo se tsaya bana ba metse go simolola kwa Kodibeleng, o tsaya Moralane, Ikongwe, Thabala, Mabuo, Sehunou le Motshegaletau.

Gongwe le yone Moiyabana re leba population ya yone, ke dipalo fela tse e leng gore bana ba ga ba nne sentle, ba sukagane.
Ga go na sepe se se siameng kwa sekoleng, ke raya gore le tap ya metsi, e ka bulwa go iketlilwe, kana e tla e bona phatlha, yone ga e bone phatlha, ka gore diatla tse di e tshwarang di bontsi jo bo gakgamatsang.

Gone mo fela go le nosi go raya maroko a bone, go raya kwa classrooms.

Kana sekole se fa o gakologelwa se ne se agilwe e le 18 streams, gone jaaka ke bua nao jaana is 37 streams.

Mo e leng gore tota go bua boammaaruri bana bale go laolesega ga go nne motlhofo gore ba laolesege.
Ke re gongwe jaaka fa go abiwa madi jaana ba Lephata la Thuto e nne dilo dingwe tse ba ka di elang tlhoko ba bona gore seemo sa sekole se se ka tokafadiwa jang.

Gongwe sengwe sa dilo tse di utlwisang botlhoko bana ba ba a ngwega, ke yone tiro e e leng gore jaanong kwa sekoleng go tshwaraganwe le bothata jwa gore letsatsi le letsatsi e bo go setswesetswe bana ba morago.

Jaanong akanya ngwana a tswa Moralane kana Kodibeleng e le gore o ngwegile gore go tlaa tsaya nako e e kae.
Akanya ngwana yo o tswang kwa Sehunou, mme tota a sa tswe Sehunou a tswa kwa dipolaseng, gore fa a boetse gone kwa jaanong go raya gore nako e ntsi e a ka bong a rutwa ka yone o felela a seiwa ke dithuto.

Sekole se ga se dire sentle gotlhelele, mme ga ke itse gore a Puso e leba e le dilo tse di siameng.

Barutabana ba Mothamo ke batla go ba akgola thata ka boeteledipele jwa bone, ba leka bojotlhe jaaka fa gompieno ba dule kwa go 18.6 per cent ba ile kwa go 20.1 per cent.
Mme kana re bua maduo fela a a tlhabisang ditlhong thata Mr Speaker.

Jaanong a Puso e bone gore mo seemong se e ka thusa jang, gore e re barutabana ba leka ka bojotlhe jo bo kanakana, e bo gongwe Puso le yone e ba atumetse.

Gone jaana Puso ke dumela gore e santse e le kgakala nabo.

Kana fa o bua ka dipalo tse o bua ka boroko jwa barutabana, mo e leng gore ga bo yo gotlhele, bo a tlhaela.
Go nna ga bone ga to share, go nna kwa motseng, le bangwe ba bone ba tsoga kwa Serowe, ke sengwe sa dilo tse e leng gore ga se beye barutabana sentle, ka gore ba tsena kwa e le gore jaanong le letsapa le setse le ba tshwere.

Batho ba ba Modimo ba leka ka gotlhe mo ba ka go kgonang, a jaanong thuto e eme ka dinao, kana ministry o eme ka dinao go bona gore batho ba ba Modimo ba ka thusiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Sengwe sa dilo tse di tlhaelang kwa sekoleng ke malao a bana ba a dirisang.
Ka tsweetswee ke tsaya gore e tlaa re fa kabo ya madi re sena go nna re a kgaoganya jalo go yeng ka maphata go tlaa tsewa boikarabelo jo bo maleba.

Mme mma ke fete Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Mma ke go supegetse gore e re ntswa le fa go builwe ka dituelo, kana kokeletso ya dituelo bogolo jang ka ba VDC le bagodi, nnyaa le nna fela jalo jaaka batlotlegi ba ba sa tswang go bua, ke bona kokeletso e, le fa e ka bo e le kokeletso, mme e sa reye sepe se o ka se buang.
Kana go bua boammaaruri go tsaya dingwagangwaga gore batho ba ba okelediwe, jaanong fa o ya go ba okeletsa ka P100 morago ga dingwaga tse di kanakana ke lefela la mafela, ke lefela tota Mr Speaker.

E bile gongwe ke santse ke le gone foo, mma re dumele gore batho ba ba pensioners Goromente a reng ka bone.
Batho kana a re tlhaloganyeng gore ba diretse lefatshe le ka botswapelo, e bile ba le diretse mo seemong se se neng se le thata, a e re go diriwa dikokeletso jaana batho ba ba pensioners le bone go nne le tsela e ba ka gopolwang ka yone ka gore aah!

go lebaka.

Kana fa o tsaya o boela kwa morago gore ba sale ba okeleditswe leng labofelo hei!

e ka nna 20 years back.


Mme gone mo fela le bone go ba baya ka kwa mosing, a le bone re ba gakologelweng tlhe batho, ka ditiro tse di ntle tse ba di diretseng Puso e. Gongwe mma ke fete ke supe gore letlhoko la ditiro mo lefatsheng la rona ke seemo se se ngomolang pelo, ga se itumedise, ga se jese diwelang.

Mr Speaker, fa o tsaya fa moragonyana fale mafoko a a neng a dirisiwa ke Tona Rakgare, a a reng go ka tsewa allowances tsa sitting tsa Mapalamente.
Ee, gongwe ke ka fa a neng a leba ka teng mme gongwe ga go a lekana.

Kana fa o leba Ministers, ba na le allowances tse dintsintsi, gongwe a ko a lead ka example gore fa ba re go ka tsewa allowances tsa sitting, tse a di tshwantshanyang a le mo teng le rona re le mo teng, gongwe ke gone fa go tlaabong go sa lebege sentle teng foo.

E bile gongwe gone foo, o a confess ka tsela nngwe gore e le ruri Puso e e dira mo go sa lekanang go bona gore go tokafadiwa seemo se sa letlhoko la ditiro mo lefatsheng.
6 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Nnyaa, ke a itse gore jaaka go a tle go buiwe, gongwe ga se boikarabelo jwa Puso jaaka fa bangwe ba setse ba supile go bona gore go fetlhwa mebereko.

Gongwe a ba gakologelwe gore dingwe tsa ditsholofetso tse nne ba di dira e le ba Party ya Botswana Democratic Party (BDP), ke gore ba tlaa tla go tlhama ditiro.
Ba ne ba a fa sekai kana ba sa fe sekai, ke nna yo ke ka fang sekai gore sengwe sa dilo tse ba neng ba supa gore ba ya go fetlha mebereko ka sone, ba ne ba rile ba ya go dira koloi ya motlakase e e tlaa hirang batho ka dipalopalo.

Jaanong a ba tseye boikarabelo, re sa re re tlaabo re ba lebeletse, jwa go bona gore ammaaruri se ba se solofeditseng Batswana se a diragadiwa.
Nna gone jaana Mr Speaker, ke tsere boikarabelo e le sengwe sa dingwe tse nne ke se supa gore ke a tshwenyega ka letlhoko la ditiro mo bananeng.

Ka ntsha bontlha bongwe jwa lefatshe le ke le abetsweng ke Goromente go bona gore a ke ka se ka ka kopanela golo foo le banana gore ba ba ka kgonang ke ba siele metsi, ke ba fe lefatshe leo ba dire sengwe se e ka reng kamoso ba tla ka letseno mo malwapeng kana mo matshelong a bone.
E le gone go supa go tshwenyega mme tota ke sa itse gore ke ka reng ka gore ga ke na go feta foo.

Ke gone mo ke neng ke dumela gore gongwe a rotlhe re lebe seemo se ka ditsela tse re ka thusang batho ba ba Modimo ka tsone gore e tle e re kamoso le bone ba ipone ba tsentse matsogo.

Golo mo ga letlhoko la ditiro Mr Speaker, go tlhoka gore re tseye boikarabelo, re bone gore re ka tokafatsa, ra ba ra isa lefatshe le la rona kwa pele ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Mr Speaker, mma ke supe gore go na le dikomiti fela tse di dirang mo lefatsheng la rona jaaka fa o ka akanya bo VDC, Parents Teacher Association (PTA), bo Farmers Committee.

Naare Goromente dikomiti tse dingwe tse o di leba jang?

Ke dumela gore dikomiti tse fa re sa di emele ka dinao, kwa tshimologong se nne re rile re a se dira ka dikomiti tse, se ya go felela jaanong se phutlhame.
Fa o ka tsaya batho ba PTA ka boithaopi jo bo kanakana, ke sone se gongwe o bonang jaanong kwa sekoleng le maiteko otlhe a re a dirang go tshwaraganya botsadi, bana le sekole go nna thata ka gore re ba kgoba marapo ka gore fa e re re ntse re leba dilo jaaka di ya kwa pele, gongwe re lebe gore le bone ba ka tshwanelwa ke gore ba latlhelelwe sengwe.
Go bo go raya gore maiteko otlhe a re neng re ka a akanya a go tshwaraganya bana le batsadi, tlhoka tsebe e e kanakana e e mo baneng, gongwe e ne e ka tla ya fokotsega.

Jaanong e le gore e nna letsapa ka gore ba PTA le bone batho betsho, ba kgobega marapo.
Gape fa o ya kwa masimong, kwa re tshelang madimadi teng re leka go dira mananeo a bo LIMID le ISPAAD, go padisa gone gore jaanong Farmers’ Committee e nna komiti fela e e senang boleng bope ka gore le fa o ka bo o lebelela, dithutego tse re neng re a tle re di ba neele, jaanong ke lefela la mafela.
Ke ne ke re gongwe a re ba nonotsheng, Puso e tle mo seemong sa gore e bone gore a batho ga ba ka ke ba fiwa sepe go ipaya mo seemong sa gore le bone ba tiye moko mo tirong ya bone e ba e dirang ya letsatsi le letsatsi.

Gongwe sengwe sa dilo tse ke di lemogang, ke ne ke dumela ke re gongwe e kete e kare Puso e le fano, ya ela tlhoko, ya lebaleba, segolo bogolo fa re bua ka seemo sa ditlhwatlhwa tse di tsholetsegang letsatsi le letsatsi fa kae fela.
Ke ne ke dumela gore gongwe Puso e ka bo e le mo seemong sa gore e bo e tla ka go baya komiti nngwe e e leng gore ka yone e ka sekaseka ditlhwatlhwa tse di imelang Batswana ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Gakologelwa Mr Speaker, gore go okeditswe ga kae ditlhwatlhwa.

O ka akanya tsotlhe tse o ka di akanyang; dijo, metsi, motlakase.

Sa bofelo se se neng se phatlola pelo le go feta, o bo o ya go bona go nna le dikokeletso di tshwana le tsa taxis.
O bo o ipotsa gore dikokeletso tse di dirwa di tswa fa kae ka gore seemo se sotlhe fela, se amile Batswana botlhe, ga gona ope yo o setseng.

Jaanong fa e le gore go ka oketswa ntlha e nngwe, ntlha e nngwe go sa okediwe, ke ne ke lebile gore gongwe go ka bo go tlilwe ka komiti e e ka tlang ya dira tshekatsheko ya price controls.

Jaanong fa go ntse jalo Mr Speaker, go tlogetswe fela go ntse jalo, o a bona gore ke seemo se se tlaa tswelelang se kokonela Batswana le go gaisa.
Mma e re ke kgabola ka gore nako yone ga e ntetle, gongwe ke kgabole ka ditsela.

Mr Speaker, ditsela tsa lefatshe la rona bogolo jang kwa kgaolong e ke tswang kwa go yone tse di internal, di ngomola pelo.

A e re jaaka fa Local Government e filwe seabe, serwenyana se se botoka e nne sengwe sa dilo tse ba tlaa yang go di leba gore ditsela tse kgabagare di nne mo seemong sa go tsamaega.
Ditsela ke mahuti fela jaaka fa moragonyana jaana pula e ntse e na, batho ba utlwa botlhoko ntswa pula re e tlhoka ka gore jaanong fa e na seemo sa teng se bihela kwa pele Mr Speaker.

Gongwe e seng ditsela tsa mo gae fela.

Fa o tswela kwa ntle o utlwa batho ba leboga e bile ba itaya legofi ba supa gore ditsela tsa dikgaolo tsa bone di ya go dirwa, o bo o bone gore batho tlhe ba lesego.
Kana nna bogolo jang ke leba tsela e tshwana le ya Kalamare-Moiyabana e e leng 7 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gore gotlhelele Tona, tsela eo ga e tsamaege.
E re ntswa le fa e ne e ka bo e kile ya nna tsela, e potapotilwe ke melapo mo e leng gore kgabagare e tlaa re re re ke tsela, e bo e le selaga ka gore fa dipula di ntse di na jaana, e tlaa tshogana ka e kgaogile mme go tlaa lebega seemo sa teng jaanong se bihetse pele.
Re na le tsela e e botlhoko Tona, e o neng wa solofetsa fano gore e tlaa gopiwa dikgwedi dingwe le dingwe tse tharo, mme ke sa itse gore fa e le gore o solofeditse e bo e le gore ga go direge jaaka fa o ne o solofeditse, sone seemo se wa re o lejwe go ka akanngwa eng ka wena?

O lejwe o le motho wa sebopego sa mohuta mang ka gore ba go leba jaanong jaaka e kete o ba horile mme ga ke itse gore fa o hora batho mo seemong se se ntseng jaana, o a bo o re gotweng.
Tsela ya Mokgware-Serowe-Mogome e mo seemong se e leng gore jaaka dipula di na jaana, go eme fela, ga gona sepe se se diregang.

Re ne re re, re a itse gore ga o ka ke wa e dira ka sekontere ka gore o supile gore ga gona madi mme gone fela a ko tsela e ka boammaaruri o diragatse ditsholofetso tse o di solofeditseng batho ba kgaolo e. Tota seemo se se utlwisa botlhoko sa ditsela.

Ke tsone ditsela tse di tshwaraganyang metse, tse bontsi jwa nako ba di dirisang go le bosigo le motshegare.
Jaanong a ko ka tswee-tswee Tona mo mading a o tlaabong o a filwe, o bone gore diemo tse o ka feta ka tsone ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Mma e re ke santse ke le foo ke supe ke sa kgwe mathe gore re na le bothata mo ditseleng tse di kileng tsa dirwa ke ba Agriculture, tse di tswang kwa production areas jaaka fa go na le ba ba gamang go isa mashi kwa plant a ise a senyege.

Ditsela tse di ne tsa dirwa ka Lenaneo la Economic Stimulus Programme (ESP) mme e ne e le le le fetang.
Jaanong ditsela tse ga gona ope yo o tsayang boikarabelo jwa tsone; khansele le ba agriculture le bone ga ba tseye boikarabelo jwa tsone.

Gongwe se se botlhoko le go feta ke gore go ne ga dirwa culverts jaaka fa o itse gore tsela fa e dirwa, go tlaa nna le fa go tlhokang culverts teng.

Mr Speaker, ke rata go go bolelela jaana gore culverts tsotlhe tse re neng re di dirile mo tseleng e e tswang kwa masimo a Kgaswe, di tserwe ke metsi.
Matshelo a Batswana ba ba dirisang tsela eo ba mo diphatseng ka gore jaanong fa e neng e le culverts teng, ke di selaga.

Jaanong ke ne ke re mo mading a maintenance a Tona a buileng ka one, a go ko go bonwe gore dingwe tsa projects tse di neng di dirilwe ka mananeo one a bo ESP, tse e leng gore gone jaana ga gona ope yo o tsayang boikarabelo jwa tsone, e nne dingwe tsa dilo tse di ka yang go baakanngwa ka madi a maintenance ka gore kwa ntle ga moo, ke bohutsana.
E re ke le foo ke fete jaana ke supe gore bagaetsho, re na le bothata le kabo ditsha.

Ga ke itse gore gatwe go eng se Puso e ka se ke e se bolelele Batswana gore mathata a gore ba abe lefatshe ke eng.

Go kile ga tliwa fano gotwe lefatshe ga le a tsenngwa ditlamelo, re le Palamente e re ne ra tsaya tshwetso ya gore go ye go bewa ditsha fela mo lefatsheng le le sa tsenngwng ditlamelo.

Jaanong go ntse go eme fela, ga gona sepe se se utlwalang.
Ke sone se ke dumelang gore gongwe Puso e tshwanetse ya tswela kwa ntle, ya ipolela gore bothata jwa yone totatota ke eng gore mongwe le mongwe a nne ka kutlwisiso, re tlhaloganye seemo se le mo go sone.

Re kgone gore e re le rona fa re le kwa Dikgotleng kwa dikgaolong, re bue sengwe se Puso e se buang.

E seng gore gongwe kgabagare re bue mo re tlaa bong e kete jaanong re tswela Puso.

A ko le tswele kwa ntle Puso le tlhalose gore bothata jwa go baya ditsha ke eng.
Tota fela se ke se bonang, go a lebega gongwe le na le bothata jwa gore ka ga le kgone go duela batho compensation e e lekaneng, gongwe le bolele gore bothata jwa lone ke go duela compensation.

A ko go etelwe compensation e e ntseng e duelwa batho e, go bonwe gore a e lekane.

Fa e sa lekana, go bonwe gore Puso e ka dira jang gore gongwe lemme le go nne le maano mangwe a le ka okediwang ka one.
Kwa ntleng ga moo batho betsho, go tlile go tlholwa go thatlaganwe mo malwapeng, bana le batsadi go sena fa ba nnang teng e le gore…(inaudible)… Seemo se fa e ne e le gore re ka tsaya boikarabelo ra bona gore re ka tokafatsa jang, gongwe go ne go ka ya teng.

MR LEUWE: On a point of clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you Rre Lesedi.


Ke ne ke utlwa o bua ka kgang ya ditsha motlotlegi e e tshwenyang gongwe le gongwe, e e bileng re ne ra e bua mo Palamenteng fela jaaka o sa tswa go bua gore gongwe bothata bo ka tswa bo bakiwa ke kgang ya compensation.

Jaanong tse e leng gore ga go tlhoke gore go rekwe lefatshe, kana compensation, lefatshe le santse le le teng jaaka bo Takatokwane, yone o e leba jang motho wa gaetsho?

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: O e leba jang Motlotlegi Lesedi?


MR LESEDI: Ee, ke gone foo Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga Rre Leuwe.

Ke boammaaruri, ke e leba ka tsela yone e ke ntseng ke tshwenyega gore kana fa Puso e sa tswele kwa ntle go bolela gore bothata jwa yone ke eng, re nna le seemo, kgantele re bo re akanya le tse gongwe di seng boammaaruri.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Rraetsho, jaaka o bua, ke matshwenyego.
Go na le gone gore jaanong o etle o leba jaaka e kete dingwe land boards di na le boitseme ka gore tota ga o ka ke wa nna le tlhaloso epe fa e le gore lefatshe le teng, e bile ga go tlhoke compensation, mme e le gore jaanong ga go bewe.

Ke gone mo ke dumelang gore gongwe Tona le ene a tsenye leitlho mo dikgannyeng tse, gongwe kwa phelelong ya letsatsi, a lebe, go le matshwanedi gore Batswana ba thusiwe, ba lese go thatlagana jaaka marotse mo ntlong.

Gone moo, ke gone mo go re tlhakatlhakanyetsang.


Gongwe Rre Leuwe ke santse ke le foo, o ka leba gore kwa go nang le ditsha teng, re go tshwantshanya fela le kwa e leng gore gongwe bangwe ba kopile ditsha tsa masimo tse e leng gore e bile ba di bone, ba tlhoka fela gore ba ye go bewa, mme e le gore ga ba kgone go bewa.
Jaanong fa e le gore gongwe o tlaabo o anapa land boards tse o tlaa bong o le kwa go tsone gone kwa ditsheng tseo, ba bo ba go bolelela gore tota ba na le problem ya resources, o ka bona gore go thata.

A Puso e eme ka dinao, e bone gore Batswana ba a thusiwa.

Sengwe se ke tlaabong ke ka feta ka sone Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, go builwe thata ka kgang ya corruption.
Ke batla go tshwenyega Mr Speaker, e bile ke batla gore ke re, a mme tota lefoko le la corruption kana tshenyetso-setšhaba, a re le bua jaana re itse gore corruption go tewa eng.

A re a e itse Mr Speaker, kana re tlaabo re bua fela ka yone mme gongwe re leba jaaka e kete re a e itse mme gongwe re sa e itse.

Mr Speaker, fa re sa emele kgang e ya corruption ka dinao, re tlaa iphitlhela e nyeleditse lefatshe la rona.
Corruption ke dikgang tsa malatsi otlhe tse di buiwang e kete ga di na tema, mme gongwe letsatsi le letsatsi bangwe ba rona re di dira, mme re sa tseye boikarabelo jwa go bona gore re tshwere corruption ka diatla.
Go builwe ga ntsi ka tshenyego ya madi a Puso a o fitlhelang go nna le cases tse di bohahalele go sa lebelelwe gore fa go agiwa maano a gore kwa phelelong ya letsatsi gotwe mongwe o molato, e bo e le gore maano a fa a rarabololwa kana a tlhatlhololwa, jaanong kwa phelelong ya letsatsi go ama Puso gore e bo e duela matshebetshebe a madi, ntswa e le gore bone ba ba neng ba leka go loga maano kana segwenegwene se ba neng ba itse gore ga sena boammaaruri, jaanong ba kwa ga tlebebe, ga ba a amiwa ke sepe, kana ga go na ope yo o bonang ba amiwa ke sepe.
Gone moo, ke yone nngwe ya corruptions tse di teng mo fatsheng la rona.
Jaanong a e re re bua corruption, re leke ka bojotlhe gore fa go na le bangwe ba ba iphitlhetseng ba tsena mo dikgannyeng tse di felelang di gogela kwa go reng go nne le corruption mme ba ne ba itse gore ba gona boammaaruri mo dikgannyeng tse ba a beng ba di bua, a go tsewe kgato Mr Speaker, e tle e re kamoso corruption e, le ba ba tlaa bong ba ne ba ka akanya go dira sepe sa mofuta oo, le bone ba tshabe, ba itse gore corruption eo e ya go ba senola.
Mr Speaker, ke dumela gore gongwe dilo tse fa re ne re ka di leba ka yone tsela e e ntseng jalo, di ka re thusa.

Sa bofelo Mr Speaker, ke supe gore kwa kgaolong ya Serowe ka kakaretso, sengwe sa dilo tse re di solofetseng go gaisa jaaka o ka akanya, ke police station.

Rraetsho Mmusi, re solofetse police station kwa Serowe; go dingwaga.

Motse wa Serowe ga se molekane wa ope motse mo tikologong e o ka e akanyang.
Fa o tsaya metse e metona e e ka tshwantshanngwang le Serowe, o a itse gore e na le police stations.

Serowe o na le setsha sa police station se re sa bolong go se baya ka tsholofelo ya gore police station e ne e kile ya umakiwa.

Jaanong nakokgolo ke eno, mme e bile gompieno, jaaka ke ne ke bua kgantele, ga e supege gope.

Ga go molato gore e bo e sa supege gore ka gore le tse di sa supegeng fa o gakologelwa Tona, di ka kgona go dirwa.
Ke raya gore fa re solofetse police station, re ne re solofele gore bogolo gongwe jaaka bogogi jwa sepodise sa kwa Serowe bo kile jwa akanya, they proposed police posts tse ba ka dirang satellites police ka tsone, mme le tsone ga go utlwale sepe.

A e re mo mading a gago a o a filweng Tona, gongwe dilo tse o di beye leitlho.

Ke a go itse, ke a go tshepha, ke dumela gore e kare fa e le gore sengwe se teng jaaka ke bona se le teng jaana, o ka re thusa ka tsela epe fela.
Borukutlhi bo setse bo le kwa godimo mo e leng gore jaaka fa o itse gore gone kwa Serowe bogolo jang kwa kgaolong e ke tswang kwa go yone ya Serowe South, ga re na special constables.

Diemo tse, re nne re di leba rraetsho gore borukutlhi bo kwa godimo.
Fa o tsaya motse wa Radisele o bona ka fa borukutlhi bo apereng motse ole ka teng, mme re sena special constables, go tlhomola pelo ka gore fa le bua ka special constables mo mafelong a mangwe kana mo metseng e mengwe, rona re tswa pelo fela e bile ga re itse gore gone moo le bua ka eng.
Fa o tsaya motse o tshwana Moiyabana o o okametseng metse yotlhe ya methamo, o tsaya botona jwa one; kana fa o tsaya metse ya bo Moiyabana Mr Speaker jaaka fa o e itse; Moiyabana, Sehunong, Mabuo, Thabala, 9 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Motshegaletau, e mo tshekametsong ya dipolase.

Jaanong bontsi jwa nako re tshwara bothata gone kwa dipolaseng.
Re dumela gore mapodise a a bo special constables, fela jaaka mo metseng e mengwe, a Serowe South le ene a lejwe ka leitlho lone leo la gore go botlhokwa gore ba bone special constables.

Fa ke boela kwa go ya health, mma ke kope Tona rraetsho gore re na le bothata jo bo thatlaganeng.

Fa o tsaya clinic ya Moiyabana, e lekane go ka bo e operate 24 hours.

Mma ke go kope ka boikokobetso rraetsho gore e ne ya re ke bua nao wa solofetsa gore maikaelelo a gago ke go re clinics tse di operate 24 hours.
Jaanong a ko o lebe jalo motlotlegi go bona gore a ga go botlhokwa.

Rraetsho, jaaka e le selelo le khuranyo ya meno gongwe e le lefatshe ka bophara, ke dumela gore bontsi jwa nako ke itse mathata a kgaolo e ke e emetseng gona le mathata a kgaolo ya kwa Selokolela.

Ga gona dipilisi, mo Tona a tswang go tsena kwa radio a tlhalosa gore dipilisi mo lefatsheng leno di at 40 per cent.
O ipotsa gore fa gotwe dipilisi di at 40 per cent, batho ba ba tshelang ka makoa a a senang sepe se ba ka se itirang, jaanong go tewa gotwe ba tshele jang.

Maloba ke ne ke kopana le mongwe a ikuela mo go nna kwa kgaolong, a supa gore o na le malatsi a le five Motlotlegi Tonanyana, a sa kgone go ikenta e le gore… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lesedi, Motlotlegi Mothusa Tona, ga gona motho yo gotweng Tonanyana.

MR LESEDI: Ke belaela gore ke thelelo ya leleme Rra Nkamo, ke a leboga.
Go nna le bothata jwa gore fa motho a tla a ikuela e le motho yo o ikentelang sukiri, e le gore o kgona go tsaya five days go sena mokento o a ikentang ka one, nnyaa batho betsho.

Tota ra re re raya batho re reng?

Kana motho wa high blood, ke bolwetse jo bo diphatsa le go gaisa, mme fa a sena madi a go ya go reka dipilisi kwa chemist, ke e tle ke utlwe gotwe go na le gore go ka nowa legala la tshwene, menepenepe, le fa ke sa rotloetse tseo, ke raya gore gongwe ba ka nna le bongwe boitiro.
Akanya motho wa sukiri mo seemong sone seo gore o ya go bona mokento jaanong go setse go diragala eng mo go ene.

Ke ne ke re gongwe re lebe batho betsho, go boloka tšhaba ya lefatshe le, e tle e re gongwe kamoso fa re ntse re boela kwa ditlhareng, re raya batho re re re tlhopheng, re bo re kgona go bua le batho, e seng gore jaanong batho ka nako eo e bo e le gore ga ba yo ba fedile ke makoa one a. Ke tsaya gore Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, Motlotlegi Rraetsho Dikoloti o reeditse.
E tlaare jaaka a filwe share e e botoka gongwe e nne tsone dilo dingwe tse a ka yang go simolola ka tsone.

Go ya go reka dipilisi mo, ba bangwe tota go bua boammaaruri, go ba thatafalela le go gaisa jaaka fa o ka akanya.

Mo mafokong one a rraetsho, ke tseye sebaka se go go leboga.

Ke tseye sebaka se go leboga ba gaMmangwato.

Ke ba reye ke re nnyaa, nnang le wetse dibete ba gaMmangwato, mongwarona rraetsho kwa a leng teng, o tsogile.
E e tle e re fa re kgonne, re lekolane nae, mme a dipelo tsa lona di se fuduege.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Please confine yourself to the debate.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… Dikgang di dintsi di mo letletse… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ba bangwe ntse ba bua di sele le sa bue sepe.

MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mma ke go leboge Rra Nkamo.

Ke bo ke dumedise batlotlegi mo Ntlong mo mosong ono.
Mma le nna Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke eme fano mo mosong ono ke akgele mo kabakanyong ya madi a budget ya 2022/23 e re neng re e bewa ke Tona Mmaetsho Peggy Serame.

Le nna ke etse ba bangwe ba ba setseng ba fetile ke mo akgole e le mme wa ntlha go bo a ne a dira tiro e. Mmaetsho, masego le matlhogonolo ke ao, ke a go a eleletsa mo botshelong le mo tirong e o e dirang.
Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, mma e re ke tsena mo mafokong a me, mo letsatsing la gompieno, mo nakong e ke e filweng, ke simolole fela ka go itebaganya le lephata le ke le okametseng la Molao, Thokgamo le Itshireletso.

Ke leboge madi a re a neetsweng ke Mme Peggy Serame, Tona wa Madi.

Mmaetsho re bone madi, re a a lebogela.


Kana o a itse gore lephata la rona, le le tona; le lebeletse lefatshe; territorial security, internal security, makgotlatshekelo le maphata a mangwe fela a ke tlaa lekang gore ke a tlanyetlanye.

Fela mmaetsho, kgangkgolo ke yone ya sepodise e e leng gore tota borukutlhi bo ile kwa godimo mo lefatsheng le.

Madi a tota ga a ka ke a re lekana thata gore re kgone go thusa Batswana botlhe.

Ke keletso ya rona go thusa Batswana, re ba tlisetse tshireletso.
Tota re na le pelo e e lehutonyana gore madi a santse a le kwa tlase.

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O tsaya Rre Molale mo Kgaolong ya Goodhope-Mabule, Rre Molao, Mme Monnakgotla, Rre Brooks, Rre Lesedi le ba bangwe fela ba ntse ba lela, le Rre Morwaeng le fa a ise a tsene, mme ke itse gore le ene o tlaa tsena le morwarraagwe, ba santse ba tlaa bua ka police stations tse ba di eletsang mo dikgaolong tsa bone.

Tota re na le kgwetlho ya gore madi a re a neetsweng gompieno, go tilwe ga re ye go aga projects tse di ntšha, ke madi a re yang go tsweledisa fa re neng re eme teng, re bo re dira maintenance.
Legale mma ke lebogele gore mo pegong e o neng o re e baya pele, o ne wa bua gore lephata la go dira PPP projects or models, le tlaa leka go ema ka dinao thata gore le thuse.

Ke ne ke batla go kopa gore mmaetsho, re na le tsone projects tse, tse di santseng di saletse kwa morago mo metseng yone e metona le e mennyennyane, police posts.

A lephata le tota le eme ka dinao, re leke go aga police stations tse re kgone go thusa setšhaba sa lefatshe le.
Kgwetlho e nngwe e e santseng le yone e le bokete mo go rona, ke maroko a mapodise le masole, bone ba re ba neetseng tiro e. Re santse re sa kgone go ba fa maroko a a lekaneng, re tshwanetse go aga matlo a le mantsintsi tota gore re kgone go thusa.

Fela ke sone se ke reng a ba lephata la gago la PPP, ba kgone go ema ka dinao, re tle re diragatse projects tse.

Fa ba ka se ke ba ema ka dinao, ba ikitaya ka thupa, hei!

re ya go sokola thata re sa kgone go thusa Batswana sentle.
Ke yone kopo e ke neng ke batla go go e baya pele.

Mma ke tsene mo go bone ba sesole, ke leboge ba Botswana Defence Force (BDF) ba ba ileng kwa Mozambique.

Ke re le lona ke a le lemoga bagaetsho, ke itumelela tiro e le e dirang le le ka fa tlase ga ba Southern African Development Community (SADC) Mission in Mozambique (SAMIM), le tshwere tiro e ntle.
Re latlhegetswe ke bangwe bana ba rona koo le ba mafatshe a sele, mme le bone ke re Mapalamente a a tlotlegang le Batswana ka kakaretso, a re beyeng bana bao mo dithapelong le batsadi ba bone.

Le bone ba ba kwa Mozambique, re tswelele re ba beye mo dithapelong ka gore tiro e ba e dirang kwa, e tona fela thata, le rona re a iphemela ka go itsa gore ditsuolodi tse di se ka tsa tsamaela ka kwano.
Ke tsene mo go bone ba Prison Services, e rile ngwaga o o fetileng, fa 2021 o simologa, Tautona Mokgweetsi Masisi, rraarona a baya Commissioner of Prisons, Mme Marathe go nna ene moeteledipele.

Le ene ke batla go mo akgola mo tirong e a setseng a e dirile gompieno.

O tsweletse o eme ka dinao thata ka go leka go tlhabolola lephata le.
Selo sengwe se ke se itumelelang e bile ke batla go se mo akgolela fa o bona ke bua jaana ke gore, e ne ya re gone fela fa a fetsa, a nthaya a re Minister, re na le masimo mo maphateng a Prisons, ke batla gore ke a leme.

Ba Prisons ba lemile masimo a mantsi thata monongwaga mo e rileng Labotlhano yo o fetileng, re ne ra tsaya Motlotlegi Rraarona Tautona wa lefatshe le, ra ya go mmontsha.

Le ene o ne a tswa kwa a tla a itumetse fela thata ka a bone ka fa re dirang ka teng.
Ke a go akgola mmaetsho, a re tswelele le lephata o le tsweledise fela jaaka ke bona o le dira jaana.

Ke batla go tlhalosetsa Mapalamente a a tlotlegang le Ntlo e gore, lephata le la rona ke lephata le letona.

Re na le maphata a mantsi thata, le a itse gore a teng.

Re na le Lephata la Justice, Defence, Safety and Security.
Re na le maphata a a farologaneng mo teng, re na le Office of the Receiver, Chemical, Biological, Nuclear and Radiological Weapons Management Authority, Botswana Defence Force Headquarters, Botswana Police Service Headquarters, Botswana Prisons, Administration of Justice le Legal Aid.

Ke maphata a re tshwanetseng gore re a godise mo mading a re a neetsweng, a isa ditlamelo kwa Batswaneng.

Re tlaa leka fela thata mo mading a re a neetsweng.
Ke batla go akgola bodiredi jo bo leng mo Ministry of Defence, Justice and Security.

Ke akgole mapodise le masole, ba e rileng ka nako ya re le mo bolwetseng jwa segajaja sa COVID-19, ba bereka fela thata go bona gore melao e e neng e beilwe go tsamaisa e a diragadiwa, e le frontline officers or workers le bone ke a ba akgola gore ba ne ba bereka.

Ke sa lebale le ba Attorney General Chambers, ba ba berekileng fela thata go bona gore melao e e a diragadiwa.
Ke akgola Attorney General Rre Keetshabe le bana ba gago rraetsho, for a job well done.

Tswelela fela jalo jaaka o ntse dira.

Lotlhe fela le tswelele, ke sa lebale le ba ba mo ministry headquarters, who are servicing them.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke tshwaele fela jalo ka lephata le le filweng madi le.

Ke re ke akgele go le kalo gore re a bone madi, re tlaa leka fela thata.

Ke a itse gore dikgwetlho tse dingwe tse re nang le tsone ke tsa processes tsa go dira tenders.
Tenders o fitlhele di le bonya, re sa kgone go dira projects ka bofefo.

Ke dumela gore re tlaa leka thata, ka ke dikgang tse ke di tshwereng kwano ke di buisana le bone, gore a re direng tenders re lekeng gore re dire gore re ise ditlamelo kwa 11 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

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Ke se ke batlang go se solofetsa Batswana gore, re le Lephata la Defence, Justice and Security, re tlaa leka fela thata gore re tsise ditlamelo kwa go bone mo mading a re a neetsweng.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke nne ke gatele pele.

Ke batla go tsena mo Kgaolong ya Gabane- Mmankgodi.

Ke dumedise ba Kgaolo ya Gabane- Mmankgodi, ba ba nthometseng kwano.

Ke bue ka dikgang tse di re tshwenyang, tse re di kgonneng le tse re sa di kgonang.

Fela sa ntlha ke batla go tsena mo Lephateng la Thuto.
Re ne ra bona maduo a Primary School Leaving Education (PSLE) a 2020 a tswa mo Kgweding ya December.
Re na le dikole di le 10 mo Kgaolong ya Gabane-Mmankgodi, re ne ra bona Mmokolodi Primary School e e eteletsweng pele ke Mma Kesebonye e tsaya 82.8 per cent, Gasiko Primary School; e e eteletsweng ke Mma Moamoge e tsaya 78.9 per cent, Pule Primary School; e e eteletsweng ke Mma Phometse e tsaya 77.6 per cent, Tloaneng Primary Schoo; e e eteletsweng ke Mma Molefhi e tsaya 77.1 per cent, Serameng Primary School; e e eteletsweng ke Mma Masife e tsaya 75.4 per cent, Mmonyi Primary School; e e eteletsweng ke Mma Rapotsanyane e tsaya 68.1 per cent, Lesirane Primary School; e e eteletsweng ke Mma Dintwe e tsaya 66.4 per cent, Gabane Primary School; e e eteletsweng ke Mma Koka e tsaya 65.6 per cent, Metsimotlhabe Primary School; e e eteletsweng ke Rre Mmelo e tsaya 62.4 per cent, Letlole Primary School; ya ga Mma Lichile e tsaya 44.6 per cent.
Thatathata ke batla go akgola Mma Kesebonye go tswa kwa Mmokolodi Primary School, le ene o simolotse kwa Mmokolodi Primary School ngwaga o o fetileng o simologa, mme o ne a kgona gore e re a fitlhetse Mmokolodi Primary School e tsamaya ka bo 60 per cent a e isa kwa kwa gore 82.8 per cent, a kgona go feta seelo se se neng se beilwe e le national target ya 80 per cent.

Mma Kesebonye mma, re a go leboga.


Tswelela fela jalo le ene yo a neng a go sala morago Mma Moamoge kwa Gasiko Primary School le wena ke re mmaetsho tswelela fela jalo, le berekeng ka thata.

Thuto e e kwa moding ke selo se se botlhokwa mo lefatsheng, gore re age bana ba rona e tle e re kamoso le bone ba tswelele ba ise lefatshe le kwa pele.

Junior Certificate (JC) results tsa rona tsa Gabane- Mmankgodi, re na le junior secondary schools tse nne.
Tsotlhe tota di ne di sa dira sentle, because the highest e ne e le 30.9, e e neng e le kwa tlase e ne e le 21.8.

Ke batla go bolelela Bagokgo gore re tlaa nna re ntse re tshwaragane, re ba etela re bereka le bone, re leka gore tota re tsholetse maduo a ka gore ke lemogile gore a kwa tlase.

Gape ke ikaelela gore e re fa Palamente e tswala, ke bue le Tona Fidelis Molao le Mma Makwinja gore re ko re etele dikole tse.

Bontsi jwa tsone ke a lemoga gore di dikgologolo, go baakanngwa ke kgwetlho.
Se sengwe se se tshwenyang thata mo Bagokgong le barutabana, ke go tlhoka boroko bagaetsho.

Gongwe fa o bona maduo a rona a sa kgone go ya kwa godimo, a sa kgone go nna maduo a mantle tota re tlhoka boroko jwa barutabana.

Barutabana are sharing mo mantlong, mme golo mo ke dumela gore go re tsenye phefo e ntsi thata, ka gore fa motho a sa lala sentle, gongwe ga a kgone gore o ka dira tiro e ntle.
Ba Lephata la Thuto, emang ka dinao bagaetsho, le lekeng gore le batle madi le agele barutabana mantlo, boroko bo a tlhaela.

Ke boe gape ke re kwa office ya ga Mopalamente ya Gabane-Mmankgodi, e ne ya re ka ngwaga wa 2020 ra tshwaragana le ba Indian Commission.

Ba kgona go re thusa, ra buisana le bone ra kgona gore re bue le bone gore re ka isa bana bangwe ba rona mo Kgaolong ya Gabane-Mmankgodi ba ba neng ba sa kgona go tsewa mo universities tse di kwano.
Re kgonne go romela bana kwa India ba le 25 as of date, ka Scholarship sa Indian Council for Cultural Relations.

Bana ba ba tshwere, ba a bereka kwa India.

Bangwe ba bidiwa Salome Baphaleng, Tankiso Mogapi, Tsaone Mogomotsi, Nametso Bulayane, Amuchilane Manyewa, Folly Nkaya le Adolph Kopego, ke tsaya ba bangwe fela mo go bone.

Ke bana ba ba tshwereng ka thata, ba a bereka.

MR MOSWAANE: Clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


Tona, a ko o ntsibose fa mo seemong sa gore go fetogile go nna le ngwao e ntšha ya gore, fa Kgaolo e tshwana ya Francistown kana Mmankgodi-Gabane e na le…(Inaudible)... MR MMUSI: Ga a utlwale Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane, your gadgets are not very good.

Try again Honourable Member.

MR MOSWAANE: Minister, o kare go na le tlholo ntshwa ya gore mo nakong…(Inaudible)…o kare jaanong Matona ba tshwanetse go ya go di bona ka bo bone.
Fa di sa bonwe ke Matona, ga go nne sepe se se fetogang.

Ke batla go itse gore a Puso ga e na bodiredi jo bo nonofetseng go dira tiro e, mo development plan ya to maintain dilo tsa rona ka tsamaiso fela e e kgotsofatsang Batswana.

E seng gore go ye go bona Tona pele, ke gone go bo go baakanngwa malatsi otlhe.
MR MMUSI: Mr Speaker, ke ne ke bua gore kwa office ya Mopalamente wa Gabane-Mmankgodi, dilo tse re tswa go di bona ka office ya Mopalamente, re thusa bana ba kgaolo ka gore re tshwanetse gore re dire sengwe le 12 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) sengwe gore re batlele bana ba kgaolo ya rona.

Ke a ba lebogisa bana ba, a ba tswelela.


Re solofetse gore e tlaare kamoso ba boe ba rutegile ba tla go re thusa mo kgaolong gore ba e ise kwa pele.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke batla go tsena mo kgannyeng e nngwe ya ditsha.

Ke a itse gore kgang e Mapalamente ba e buile ka bontsi mme le rona mo kgaolong e ya Gabane-Mmankgodi e tsaya Metsimotlhabe, Gabane, Tloaneng-Mmankgodi jaana gore hee!

re tshwere bothata ka dikgang tsa lefatshe.

Ga go na nko e e tswang lemina, sengwe le sengwe se eme.
Se se nkutlwisang botlhoko...(Inaudible)... MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister Mmusi… MR MMUSI: Mongwame.

MR SPEAKER: Please move closer to your microphone, you are on fainting.

Please try again Honourable Minister.

MR MMUSI: Ke a utlwala jaanong Mr Speaker?

MR SPEAKER: That is better Minister.

MR MMUSI: Thank you very much.

Ke ne ke re ke tsena mo kgannyeng ya kabo ya lefatshe ya ditsha Mr Speaker.

Mo kgaolong ya Gabane-Mmankgodi hee!

re tshwere bothata.
re tshwere bothata.

Ke tsaya kgaolo e tshwana le Metsimotlhabe, Gabane, Tloaneng, Mmankgodi le Mokolodi, tota re tshwere bothata ditsha ga di bewe.

Se se utlwisang botlhoko thata ke gore, batsadi bangwe ba ne ba isa masimo a bone e le gore ba solofetse compensation.

Golo mo go setse go ntsentse kafa le kafa ka gore batsadi ba setse ba tseetswe masimo a bone.

Land board e setse e tsere ditlankana tsa bone mme ga e ise e ba neele ditsha tsa bone.

Golo mo go eme, go tlile go felela go ba tsentse bolwetse.
Honourable Mzwinila, kgang e ya go aba ditsha a e emele ka dinao fela thata.

Ke a tlhaloganya gore gatwe go ne go le dikgang kwa land board, e bile ga se gore ke ba tshwaya phoso.

Mathata a ke a buang ke gore batsadi ba setse ba tsenwa ke high blood, ba sa itse gore go diragala eng?

A ditshimo tsa bone di tserwe?

A ba tlaa neelwa ditsha?

Go ya go diragala eng?

Re bo re boa re tsena le mo waiting list, ga go na tlhaloso e e papametseng.
Ke kopa gore Honourable Mzwinila, a bue le ba land board, ba tshware meetings kgapetsakgapetsa ba tlhalose, ba bo ba rarabolole dikgang tse di leng teng.

gagwe, o emetse go buisana le ba land board.

Dilo tse ga di ba tseye sentle, di re busetsa kwa morago fela thata, di a sotla.

Ke eletsa gore dikgang tse di itlhaganelelwe.

Mr Speaker, ke batla go bua ka clinics, Honourable Lelatisitswe o kile a re etela mo kgaolong a ya kwa Metsimotlhabe go lemoga gore clinics tsa rona ke tsa bogologolo.
Di dintsi clinics tse, a o tsena kwa Gabane, Tloaneng, Mmankgodi le Mokolodi.

Ke kopa ba Lephata la Botsogo ba bone gore ba ka re thusa jang gore clinics tse di atolosiwe, di tsenye bodiredi jo bo rileng.

Re na le clinic e le nngwefela e e mo kgaolong e e bonalang, ke e tona ya Lesirane.

Jaanong ka e le yone fela clinic e e berekang 24 hours, e a tlala.

Bodiredi jwa teng bo bereka lebaka tota, ga bo kgone go itapolosa.

Batho tla koo ka mmetela go tswa mo kgaolong ba tla go kopa thuso.
Re na le dikokelo tse dingwe ka kgaolo e, e aname.

Ke e kopele fela jalo gore re thuseng bagaetsho, re bone clinics.

Le fa re ka bona clinics tsa Tloaneng le Metsimotlhabe di atolositswe, re ne re ka tshela malatsinyana.

Re ne re na le bothata jwa metsi mo kgaolong ka bophara, mme re bone e kete go a tokafala maloba fa metsi a fetsa go goroga.

Rre Mzwinila, re a leboga.

Re santse re na le dikgaolwana tse di senang metsi mo go tsone.
Fa o tsaya kgaolo ya Mogoditshane Block 8, ke metse batho ba setse ba aga, mme ga re na metsi.

O tsaya kgaolo e tshwana le Mokolwe, ke metse e e bonalang mme ga re na metsi.

Bagaetsho, tlhe re itlhaneleleng le re thuseng.

Batswana ba a sotlega, ba tshwere bothata koo ba sena metsi.

Re batla go kopa gore le re tsenyetseng metsi mo dikgaolong tsa rona, a goroge kwa bathong.

Metsi ke jone botshelo, ga go na sepe se batho ba ka se dirang fa ba sena metsi.
Kwa Gabane re ne ra tsenyediwa internal roads and street lights, re lebogela tlhabologo eo.

Re a bona gore go na le ditlhabologo.

Ditlhabologo nako e nngwe le tsone di re tlela ka mathata ka gore batho ba ba dirang, ga ba nke batla ba dira go bo go felela.

Gompieno re na le dikgang tsa gore e rile fa ditlhabololo tse di dirwa, fa dipula di na, metsi a ikgobokanya a tsena mo malwapeng a batho.

Batho ba ikagetse matlo a mantsi, ba na le ditshenyegelo; furniture tsa bone di sentswe ke metsi.
Go bonyanyana gore ba bone phimolo keledi.

Ke kopa gore ba itlhaganelelwe, ba thusiwe gore ba phimolwe keledi mo ditshenyegelong tsa bone.

Mme fela re a leboga gore go ne ga diragala.

Kgaolo ya rona ya Gabane-Mmankgodi e gaufi thata le ditoropo.

Motsadi fa a ntse, o kgona go bona batswakwa ba setse ba le mo tshimong ya gagwe.
Ba simolotse go tshwaya, ba teratelela mme a itse gore tshimo ke ya Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke lebogela gore Mmaetsho Tona Mma Serame e rile maloba a bega pego ya gagwe ya madi, o ne a bua ka tsela e ya dual carriage ya Mogoditshane-Gabane-Mmankgodi.

Tsela e 13 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) bagaetsho e tswa kgakala e ntse e toutiwa.
Ke a go leboga mmaetsho gore gompieno o ntse o rurifaletsa setšhaba sa kgaolo ya Gabane-Mmankgodi, Mogoditshane le Thamaga ba ba e dirisang le ba Kumakwane, e tlaa ba solegela mosola.

Tsela e, e tlaa dirwa mo ngwageng o wa madi.

Mmaetsho, ke a go kopa fela thata gore a go se ka ga senyega sepe gore tsela e, e dirwe.

Ke kopa Rre Segokgo e le Minister wa Ditsela gore a go se ka ga senyega sepe rraetsho.
Tsela e, re solofetse gore fa e ntse jaana, e tshwanetse go nna le tselana e e tswang mo Gabane e ya go tsena kwa Tloaneng.

Ke dumela gore e tlaare o ntse o le fa Tloaneng, o tlaa e fetisa o ye go tsena fa Mmankgodi.

Batho ba Gabane, Tloaneng le Mmankgodi tsela e tota ba e solofetse.

Ba eletsa e nnyennyane e rraetsho e e tlaabong e tswa mo dual carriage highway.

Mongwame, re utlwele botlhoko, le fa o ne o ka simolola ka yone o santse o baakanya mo go e tona.

O bone gore o ka dira jang o re thuse.


Tsela e, e ka go thusa mosuke o o setseng o le mo tseleng e. Tona, fa o ka re direla e nnyennyane e, mme gone ka e a bona go kwadilwe mo Budget Speech Rre Segokgo, gore tsela e tlaa dirwa.

Ke dumela gore fa o tlhalosa ka lephata la gago rraetsho, o tlaa leka gore o re tlhalosetse.

A e re re santse re emetse tsela e rraetsho e, tlhe mongwame tsenya graders, batla digopi ka fa kgaolong ya rona ya Gabane-Mmankgodi mo Sub-Land Board ya rona ya Mogoditshane.
Le re gopele ditsela tse gangwefela ka kgwedi ka gore traffic e tsamayang mo ditseleng tse, e kwa godimo, e ntsi thata.

Re ne re ka eletsa gore fa o ne o ka re batlela graders tse di permanently stationed mo ditseleng tsone tse rraetsho gore di re thuse.
Rraetsho Rre Segokgo, ke batla go go gakolola gore e rile fa go dirwa tsela ya Boatle- Gaborone o ne o tshwanetse go re direla tsela e e tswang mo tseleng yone e e ya go tsena kwa Mokolodi mme kana rraetsho le gompieno tsela e ga o ise o e dire, e eme fela ga re ise re bone rakonteraka a le mo tseleng go e dira.

Tsela e le yone e ne e ka re fokoletsa mosuke ka gore e ne e ka tsena gone fa Tloaneng fale.
E ne e ka re bulela tsela go tswa ka fa Tloaneng go tsena Mokolodi e bo e le gore Batswana ba kgona go tla Gaborone.

Rraetsho, leka gore ka pelenyana o re thuse gore tsela e e simololwe.

Kana yone tota ke dumela gore e ne e setse e le mo mading a a neng a beetswe kwa thoko go dira tsela ya Boatle-Gaborone.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR MMUSI: Yes, Honourable Leuwe.

MR SPEAKER: Clarification sought and granted.

MR LEUWE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke a leboga Honourable Mmusi.
Ke ntse ke utlwa o kopa o bo o gogoba ka mangole o gogobela Matona a mangwe Tona.

Ke re a o solofela gore Matona a ba go reetse, ke re kana le nna ke sa le ke go gogobela ka police posts kwa bo Kaudwane, Salajwe le Motokwe?

A le nna e tlaa re ke ntse ke go gogobela jaana o tlaa ntheetsa jaaka o ntse o gogobela Matona a mangwe?
MR MMUSI: Mongwame, o utlwile ke raya Tona Peggy Serame ke mo raya ke raya ke re mma ke kopa gore Lephata la gago la PPP le eme ka dinao ka pele re simolole go dira projects, Mapalamente ba batla projects tse dišha.

Bo Honourable Moswaane ba batla police posts kwa Francistown, ke ba utlwile.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re batla graders kwa Medie.

MR MMUSI: Le wena fela jaana gompieno o a gogoba, ke a gogoba rraetsho ke kopa Honourable Peggy Serame gore a re thuse ka PPP gore re kgone go dira projects.
Fela ke ne ke re ke digele ka Mogoditshane Block 9.

Re solofeditswe primary school koo mme le sone ke kopa gore a se emelwe ka dinao se dirwe.

A process ya rona tlhe bathong ya tenders e lese go diega e diragale.

Re tlaabo re tewa gotwe tiro ke e. Re neetswe internal roads kwa Lesirane, ke dumela gore ke 15 kilometres.

Mo go rona 15 kilometres mo motseng o tshwana le Lesirane o ka re thusa fela thata mme go tlaabo go diega process ya tendering Honourable Mzwinila.
Mongwame, mma re kope thata gore dilo tse di diragale ka pele.

Ke a kopa.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ka nako e setse e fetile, ke ne ke ema gompieno go akgela go le kalo ke ema Minister Peggy Serame nokeng ke bo ke re ke amogela Tshutiso e a e re beileng pele.

Ke a leboga rraetsho.

Ke ne ke re ke akgele go le kalo Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke kope gore le rona re tlisediwe ditlhabololo tse di bonalang.
Ke kopa ba Local Government gore a e re fa ba dira kabakanyo ya bone ya madi, kgaolo e ya rona ba e lebelele thata… MR SPEAKER: Le rona re a leboga Tshwene; Rotwe.

Now, we shall have the Honourable Minister responsible for Transport and Communications, Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Tlokweng.

Honourable Segokgo, o teng Rraagwe Tsholo?

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) OF TRANSPORT MINISTER AND COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Ke teng Speaker.

Ke a go leboga rra, ke go dumedise mosong o. Santlha ke ne ke eletsa gore ke simolole ka go akgela thata mo mafokong a a neng a rolwa ke Tona wa Madi, Tona Peggy Serame.

Ke tlaa gata fa ba bangwe ba gatileng teng.
Santlha ke mo eleletse katlego mo go tseneng mo ditlhakong tse tsa go nna Tona ya Madi le Ditogamaano mme e bile gape ke lebogele gore a bo a fitlheletse se e le ene mme wa ntlha gore a tshegetse maemo a. Ke solofela gore o tlhagotse tsela, o dirile tsela e go tlaa nnang le bomme ba ba tlaa mo latelang ba tsena mo maemong a. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo gape ke santse ke eletsa gore ke lebogele thata seabe sa bomme sa go aga tšhaba e ya Botswana, ledula la yone le itsholelo ya yone ka re itse gore tota e bile ke bone bogolo jang ba ba nang le tlhokomelo le kgodiso ya bana le malwapa, selo se e keteng gongwe rona borre fa gongwe re tle re salele kwa morago mo go sone.
Mr Speaker, fa motho a lebelela budget e, ke lemoga fa e le gore Tona o dirile mo fa gongwe nna ke ne ke akanya gore gongwe go tlaa se ke go kgone go kgonagala gore re bone kgolo ya madi a a neng a abelwa Development Budget.

Tota yone fela ga e nke e kgona gore e fitlhelele ditlhabololo tsotlhe tse di a bong di kopiwa ke Mapalamente gore ba di direlwe mo dikgaolong tsa bone.

Ke ka tsaya lephata la me e le sekai.


Ke kile ka leka gore kwa morago tota ke supe kana ke tshwantshe gore fa ke tsaya dikopo fela tsa kgaolo e le nngwe, nako ya teng ke tsere ya kwa Bobonong kana Bobirwa, di ne di dira madi a bo P3 billion mme e le madi a e leng gore a fetile le one a ke a neelwang gore ke dire ditlhabololo tse di mo lefatsheng ka bophara.
Jaanong tota legale ntlha e ke neng ke batla go e supa gore ke gore e re re ne re lebaganwe ke dikgwetlho tse di re lebaganeng tse Tona e bile a di tlhalositseng fa a simolola pego ya gagwe gore re bo re kgonne gore a re fe budget e e leng gore mme gone re kgona go tsweledisa ditiro tse di setseng di ne di simolotswe, ke se ke se lebogelang thata ke bona Tona a dirile bonatla thata gore go nne jalo.
Mr Speaker, tota fela ga o ka ke ya re o bua ka budget wa se ka wa simolola gape o akgela mo go reng dikgwetlho tse dikgolo tse di supagalang mo itsholelong ya rona mme le Tona a bua ka tsone ke tsa eng.
Ke tlaa simolola kwa go yone e ya greylisting gore ke nngwe ya tse di neng di gomagometsa gore di ka phirimisa ditoro tsa rona re le setšhaba, bogolo jang ka tomagano ya rona le mafatshe a mangwe mo tirisanyong ya madi, go bona madi a ke a dikadimo kana ke go gwebisana fela le mafatshe sentle ka phuthologo gore itsholelo ya rona e atologe.

Mo go yone ntlha e, ke bona Puso e dirile ka bonatla.
Mapalamente le bone tota ke batla go ba akgola gore re ne re tshwaragane re lwa ntwa gore tota re kgone gore re feme seemo se.

Ka fa ke bonang re gatile ka teng e bile le mo Palamenteng e e neng ya bidiwa ya tshoganetso e re tswang mo go yone, ke bona re dirile go le gontle thata e bile go bonala gore e ke nngwe ya dikgwetlho tse re ka supang gore re e kgonne, e ne e lebagane thata le itsholelo ya rona.

E nngwe ya bobedi Mr Speaker, ke kgwetlho ya gore re ne ra tlelwa ke segajaja se sa COVID-19.
E re le mororo re santse re le mo seemong se e leng gore bolwetse jo jone bo teng fa gare ga rona, mme ke bona fa re gatang teng le fa re leng teng le gone go supa gore go ne ga nna le tsibogo e e re kgontshitseng gore mo sebakeng se le ene Tona gongwe a bo a kgona gore a ntshe pego jaaka a ne a e ntsha a bo a re abela madi jaaka a kgonne go aba madi a teng, ke go supa gore madi a Development Budget a a gola.
Se ke bonang gore gone ke nngwe ya dikgwetlho tse ditona tse re tshwanetseng gore re itebaganye le tsone re leke go di lwantsha fela jaaka tse pedi tse ke ntseng ke di supa, ke kgolo e e leng teng ya go tlhokafala ga ditiro.

Ke itse gore go na le tse dintsinyana tse re ntseng re leka go di dira, go bona gore re tlisa tokafalo ya itsholelo, bogolo jang e itebagantse le Motswana fela kwa gae.
Ke lebile gore re ne ra fetisa molawana wa Economic Inclusion, ra nna le policy ya Growing the Middle Class e re berekang mo go yone.

Kana re ne re dumela thata gore Goromente a le nosi ga a ka ke a tlhama, a ba a hetlha ditiro tse di tlhokagalang mo itsholelong ya rona.

Go botlhokwa thata gore ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi ba tseye karolo ya go hetlha ditiro tse.
Ke batla ke remelela thata mo go reng mohama o wa temothuo o tswa kgakala e ntse e le one o o tshegeditseng Batswana ba le bantsi, o tshegeditse ditiro tsa Batswana ba bantsi.

E bile ke mohama o ke bonang gore go botlhokwa thata mo nakong e re lebagane thata le one, re ise seabe sa madi se se thusang gore o tlhabologe, Batswana ba itlhamele ditiro mo go one.
E bile ke lebogele gore bosheng jaana se ba neng ba se dira, re ne ra dira gore go emisiwe go tsewa dingwe dijo, bogolo jang merogo e e lemiwang go tswa kwa ntle.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) tse ke dumelang gore go botlhokwa gore re tshwanetse gore re tsenye thuto, re bue le Batswana ba tlhaloganye gore ke dikgwetlho tse re tlaabong re le mo go tsone ka nakwana.
Dipoelo re tlaa di bona, mme re tlaa re re bona dipoelo tse re lemoge gore selo se se butse tshono e tona mo Batswaneng, gore ba thibe phatlha ya gore dijo tse re di jang mo lefatsheng leno e bo e le tse di dirwang ke rona.

Kgwetlho e ke e bonang e tona ya ntlha fela ke e fa gongwe e itshupang gotwe go na le tlhaelo ya merogo mengwe.
Ke kopa fela gore re itsibogele ka go lemoga Batswana gore go mo go rona gore tlhaelo eo re e thibe, re tlhomamise gore re atolosa tse re di lemang, gore re nne le dijo tse re di tlhokang.
Kana fa go nna le tlhaelo gape go na le gore go gomagometse gore ditlhwatlhwa tsa dijo tse di tlhatloge, mme ke dumela gore ke sengwe se re tlaa tshwanelang gore bogolo jang re le Puso re tlhomamise gore, re baya selo se leitlho, re tlhomamisa gore ga go nne le kgolo ya ditlhwatlhwa tsa dijo e e ka reng ka tsela nngwe ya baya Batswana ka fa mosing.
Tota se se tona se ke eletsang gore Batswana ba se sekegele tsebe, ba se lemoge, ke gore, kgato e ke bona e file Batswana ba le bantsi tshono ya gore ba tseye karolo mo itsholelong, jaaka gongwe kwa morago pele re ne re itse Batswana ba ne ba lema, le fa ba ne ba itemela gore ba je mo malwapeng a bone.
Mme gompieno gape ba tlaa lema ba sa jele fela mo lelwapeng, mme e bile ba kgone go rekisa, ba rekisetsa Batswana ba bangwe ba e leng gore bogolo jang ba mo ditoropong ga ba bone tshono eo ya gore ba ka lema merogo.

Mr Speaker, ke ne ke eletsa gore ke nne bofefonyana, ke taboge ke bue ka dintlha dingwe tse di amang lephata la me.
Ke batla ke simolola ka go amogela gore, Mapalamente ka go farologana ba ntse ba bua ba lemotsha gore ba na le dikgetlho tsa ditsela tsa bone, tse ke itseng le ka dipotso fa ba di botsa gore go a bo go ntse jalo, ba na le dikgwetlho.
Tota lephata la me re leka gore re tsepame mo go reng re tokafatse thata ka fa re ka dirang ka teng, gore re beye ditsela tse re nang natso mo seemong se se botoka gore di tsamaege, sebe sa phiri ke gore madi e ne ya nna sengwe se se neng sa re kgoreletsa ka tsela nngwe, bogolo jang fa ke tsaya ngwaga o e neng e le wa 2020, ka gore foo tota re ne ra se ka ra nna le letseno.

Mme ga simolola ga nna le phutlhamo ya ditsela ka bontsi.

Se sengwe gape e le kgwetlho mo go rona ke didirisiwa.
Ke ne ke reeditse Tona Mmusi mme ke bo ke mo amogela, ke bo ke ntse ke mo kopa gore tsone graders tsa stations, kana le ene mo makalaneng a gagwe ke a tle ke nne ke mo kope thuso eo ya gore kana ke tlhoka tsone, gore di tle di nkgonise gore mo gongwe ke kgone to grade ditsela.

Ka gore gantsi ke a ne ke nna le letlhoko le.


Jaanong selo se sengwe gape se ke batlang gore ke se amogele ke gore, go thapa ba ba re direlang ditiro, ke gore the procurement process ka fa e ntseng ka teng tota e ntse e re sokodisa fela thata.

E bile e re sokodisa ka gore gangwe le gape fa re ntse re tsweletse re le mo go yone go a ne go tsoga dikgang tse gongwe di kgoreletsang process eo ka gore bangwe ba na le dingongorego, challenging golo mo.
Ke ka yone tsholofelo e re nang nayo gore, ka fa re tlaabong re fetotse molao ka teng jaanong gore re tle re kgonise gore the Accounting Officer a tseye boikarabelo jo bogolo mo go reng procurement, re tlaa kgona gore re fefose process e ya rona ya to procure, a e ka tswa e le mo go ageng ditsela tse disha kana in maintaining ditsela tsa rona.
Le fa go ntse jalo, re na le fa re dumelang gore ke tshwanetse gore ke ba akgole mo dikatlegong ka gore, tota fela re na le ditsela tse di tlhano tse di setseng di wetse tse e leng gore re mo paakanyong ya gore re tle re di bule.

Ke tlaa seke ke nne moleele mo go tsone.

Ke bo ke lemoge gape gore Tona o tsweletse ka go re thusa, bogolo jang on this budget, gore re tswelele le ka mafaratlhatlha a maranyane, bogolo jang re itebagantse le project ya smart boards, e a buileng ka yone ka botlalo.
A e tlhalosa gore re phatlalatsa maranyane a metse le metsana, re tle re kgone gore Motswana ope a se ka a salela kwa morago.

Ke boa ke ntse ke akgola ba rona ba ba dirang maranyane a gore, tota mme fela le gone re bone kgolo mo go bone, e bile re bone ditlhwatlhwa tsa bone di ntse di wela tlase, go supa re dira gotlhe gore re bone gore di se ka tsa turela Batswana, e bile re setse jaanong e le rona lefatshe le le mo maemong a bobedi fa re lebetse affordability ya internet.
Re bo re bona gore gape le broadband kana lebelo le re kgonang go dirisa maranyane a ka tsone, kana mma ke re speed gongwe sa internet ya rona le sone se bone tokafalo e ntsi thata.

Ke rata ke sutelela, ka gore ke ka se ke ka re ke bua ke akgela ka se ka ka bua ka dikgwetlho le dikatlego tse ke di bonang mo kgaolong e ke e emetseng kwa Tlokweng.
E bile ke re ke ba gadima ke ba dumedisa, ke bo ke supa gore, tota sengwe sa dikgang tse di tona tse o fitlhelang di tshwere, e le gore ke tsone tse re lebaganeng le tsone mo Tlokweng ke tsa lefatshe.

Lefatshe ke lone nngwe ya dikgang tsa mmammang.

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) tlaa re mo nakong e e sa fediseng pelo o bo o setse o rurufaditse moalo wa Tlokweng Development Plan, o ke dumelang gore o fa pele ga gago.

Ke buisiwa se ke gore, kana gore go diriwe dipe ditlhabololo tse di amanang le lefatshe, go ntse go emisitswe ke one moalo oo.

Moalo o gape ke batla go tshwantsha gore mathata a a apereng Tlokweng ke a a ntseng jang ka gore, mo go one re solofela gore gongwe re tlaa bona ditsha tse di ka nnang 5,000.
Mme kana baikopedi ba ditsha ba ba itshupang kwa Land-Board ya Tlokweng, mola wa bone ke 55,000, o kgona go bona gore dipalo tse bobedi jwa tsone fela ga di nyalane.

Ke buisiwa se gore ke tle ke supe gore, Tlokweng gongwe fa o batla go mo tshwantshanya, le fa ke akanya gore fa gongwe o tshwana a le nosi, o tshwana gongwe le bo Ghanzi le Francistown.

Ke ka supa ka gore ke bua mafelo a a dikaganyeditsweng ke dipolase tse di itsang kgolo ya metse le ditoropo tse.
Ke bona gore tota fela nako e tlile ya gore Puso e sekaseke, e bone gore e ka dira jang gore e oketse lefatshe la mafelo a ka go reka lefatshe le le mo dipolaseng gore e tle e kgontshe gore metse e e nne le kgolo e e nametsang.

Ke santse gape ke batla go sedimosa gore re na le kgwetlho ya metsi mo motseng.

Motho gongwe o ka hakgamala, ga ke reye gore Tlokweng otlhe ga a na metsi mme fela re na le kgwetlho ya metsi ka gore motse o ntse o a gola.
Go na le mafelo a a kwa Mmaratanang, Letlapeng mme e bile mo lenaneong le la go atolosa la Tlokweng Development Plan, go na le kwa Sefoke kwa go yang go okeletswa motse teng.

Kwa e leng gore go tlaa tlhokafala gore le gone gore metsi a ye go goroga gore batho ba tle ba kgone gore ba tlhape, ba nwe, ba apeye, ba dire fela tsotlhe tse re itseng gore di botlhokwa, di dirwa fela fa o na le metsi.
Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo ke batla go kopa Tona gore, kana Tona wa Madi o setse a supile gore re tsena mo legatong le e leng gore National Development Plan (NDP) 11 e a fela.

Mo go lebeng NDP 12, go botlhokwa gore mafelo a a ntseng jaana, a ke ntseng ke umaka ka one, a tsene mo lenaneong leo ka gore ke gone o ka kgonang go bona e bile o ya go batla madi sentle gore re dire ditlhabololo tse di ntseng jaana.
Ke ntse ke kopa gore mo diemong tse di kwa Mmaratanang le Letlapeng, go na le bonnyennyane jo re neng re ka bo dira go atametsa metsi mo dijarateng tsa batho, bone gongwe ba rwala morwalo wa go a goga ba a tsenya mo djarateng tsa bone ka bogautshwane.
Ke dumela gore le bone katlego e tona ka go phatlalatsa metsi mo lefatsheng leno mo metseng e mentsi, le go godisa metsi a a tlang ka project ya Masama, e o kileng wa ntsibosa gore ke nngwe e e tlhokang gore e re fa re bua ka go godisa metsi a a tlang kwa Tlokweng, go ne go tlhoka gore e wele.

E wetse, ke nako ya gore ke kope mo go wena rra gore jaanong a dithulaganyo tsa gore re bone metsi mo mafelong a ke ntseng ke bua ka one a, go diragale.
Ke itebaganya gape le dingwe tsa dikgwetlho tse ditona tse re nang natso.

Tlokweng o gola ka lebelo le letona.

Jaaka ke ntse ke supa fela, ke a tle ke supe ka dipalo tsa go bona gore re tsamaya fa kae ka dipalo, re tlodile dipalo tse di ka nnang bo 55 000.

Gompieno fela ke ne ke ntse ke bua ka baikopedi ba ditsha, list e e kana ka 55 000.

O kgona go bona gore e supa kgolo e ke buang ka yone ya motse, mme kana go raya gore batho ba ba tlhoka dikole le dipatela.
Dilo tse ke tse pedi tse ke tsayang gore ke tsone dingwe tsa konokono tse di tlhaelang kwa Tlokweng.

E bile ke bona gore ke lebogele gore re tlaa bona kago ya sekole sa primary kwa Metlhabeng.

Kana ga re ka ke ra oketsa sekole re dira primary, re bo re nna fela ka tsone tse re nang le tsone e le junior secondary tse pedi.

Tota re tlhokana le gore re nne le sekole se se tsayang bana ba ba dirang lekwalo la Botswana General Certificate of Secondary Education (BGCSE).
Re fokoletse bana mosepele wa gore e re fa ba tlhoka gore ba ye sekoleng, e bo ba tsoga makuku phakela ba tsena mo dibaseng, a ba ya kwa Kgale, Ledumang le go ya go tsena kwa bo Mogoditshane.

Ke seemo se ke bonang gore bana ba phakela thata, e bile ba boa go le bosigo, ga ba kgone gore gape ba tseye karolo mo activities tse dingwe tse di tsewang ke bana ba bangwe fa ba le mo dikoleng.

Ke ntse ke lebile ke itse gore dilo tse gore di kgonagale, di tlhoka gore di ye go tsena kwa NDP.
Jaanong ke bua jaana ke itebagantse le Tona Molao le Tona Dikoloti.

Ke ba tsibosa gore go botlhokwa gore e re dikopo tse di tsena, ba lemoge e bile ba itse gore di tsalwa ke mabaka a a ntseng jang.

Ba di tsibogele, ba tle ba kgontshe go thusa seemo se e leng gore fa se ka se ka sa tsibogelwa jaana, sa tsibogelwa thari, re tlaabo re le mo seemong se e leng gore gongwe le lone letlhoko la madi a a tlaabong a tlhoka gore a arabe letlhoko le, a tlaabo a le mantsi e bile a seyo.
Ke rata gape ke supe gore selo se se ntse se bua ka nngwe ya dikopo tse ke setseng ke kile ka bua ka tsone.

Borukutlhi kana le bone bo gola fela jaaka motse o ntse o gola mme jaaka bo gola jaana, re sale re nna le police station e re e lebogelang gore re na nayo mme e a itshupa jaanong gore tota ga e kgone go tlamela motse e bile e thusa le ba ba kwa Modipane ka gore e fitlha teng.
Nngwe ya karolo ya ba ke ba emetseng... 17 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Minister, o tlaa tla o gakologelwa kgantele fa re boa, o bo o bua ka ene Modipane.

As it is now 1 o’clock, we shall now suspend our deliberations until 2 o’clock, with a view to allow yourselves to go and get some refreshments.

Thank you Honourable Members.


PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 1:00 P.M. FOR APPROXIMATELY 1 HOUR PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 2:00 P.M. “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): You may be seated.

Honourable Members, can we switch on our videos so that we can check if we have a quorum to start.

Let us resume our business of today with the Leader of the House’s question time.
LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME THEME: CHALLENGES OF CROSS BORDER LIVESTOCK THEFT IN BOTSWANA Asked the Leader of the House to apprise this Honourable House on the challenge of cross border livestock theft in Kgalagadi, Ghanzi, Kgatleng, North East, Goodhope- Mabule, Tutume Sub-District and Ramotswa; he should further state: (i) the number of livestock units that were reported to be stolen and taken away to a neighbouring country in each of the areas; (ii) the security and diplomatic interventions that have so far been mobilised to deal with the problem of cross border livestock theft and whether such interventions have yielded any positive results; (iii) whether Government is aware of the digital solutions offered by Information Technology (IT) companies that could be used to arrest the problem of cross border; and if so, what has been done so far to engage same; (iv) the nature and type of assistance rendered to farmers whose cattle have been stolen and found in neighbouring countries; and (v) if Government will consider implementing a national strategy and protocol for addressing cross border livestock theft.
MR T. B. LUCAS (BOBONONG): Thank you very much Mr Speaker.

Kgang ya me ke e lebagantse le Mothusa Tautona rraetsho.

Kgang e ke e e amang bogodu jwa leruo mme e le gore bo ama mafatshe a a bapileng.

O ka gakologelwa gore Mr Speaker, re le mo Bobirwa mo re na le dingwaga di ka tshwara 40 re ntse re lwantshana le bogodu jo re utswelwang ke baagisanyi ka fa, jo bo humanegisitseng batho ka tsela fela e e kwa godimo.
Bogodu joo bo matswakabele fela thata mo e leng gore fa gongwe fa o re o batla kgomo ya gago e utsulwe ka kwa lefatsheng le lengwe, o ba o itlhoboge.

Fa gongwe kgomo ya teng e be e swe ka gore ga gona protocols tse di supang gore mme fa o utswetswe kgomo mo lefatsheng la lengwe, ke o dire jang.
Ga se gone moo fela, kana le a itse batho betsho gore go ne ga nna le a Commission of Inquiry e e neng ya dirwa ke Tautona mo Kgaolong ya Bobirwa gore e lebelele kgang yone e ya bogodu jwa leruo, jo e leng gore bo dirwa ke baagisanyi.

Ya re fa go sena go nna le commission eo, report ya yone ga e ise e tswe.
Ga lemotshega ka batho ba ne ba setse ba utlule gore go na le commission ka kwano mo Kgaolong ya Bobirwa, ba botsa gore ka gore jaanong mme kgang e ga e ame fela Kgaolo ya Bobirwa, e ama dikgaolo tsa bo Tutume, North East, Ramotswa, Kgatleng, Goodhope- Mabule le bo Ghanzi, jaanong ke eng o kare kgang e e ganeletse fela ka kwa Bobirwa?Jaanong ka ke ne ke sena dikarabo, ke bo ke re le fa go ntse jalo ka gore ke kgang e e amang Batswana, gongwe ke botse Mothusa Tautona gore, seemo se sa go utswiwa ga leruo ke baagisanyi, se eme jang mo dikgaolong tse ke sa tswang go di bala tsa bo North East, Tutume, Goodhope-Mabule le tse dingwe, gore a ko a re sedimosetse gore a ke nnete go na le bothata jo bo ntseng jalo.
Fa e le gore go ntse jalo, bokete jwa bone bo kae mo dikgaolong tsone tseo?

Ke bo ke tswelela gape ke re, fa a sena go tlhalosa tsone dipalo tseo tsa gore bothata jwa go utswiwa ga leruo ke baagisanyi dipalo tsa teng di kae, gape a re bolelele gore a maiteko a a dirwang go leka go lwantsha seemo se, e seng fela mo Bobirwa le mo dikgaolong tse dingwe, ke eng?

A supe maiteko ao.
A supe maiteko ao.

Ke bo ke supe gape gore, kana mme gape go na le maranyane a Information and Technology (IT) companies, ba re ba ka a dirisa go thusa gore dikgomo di se ka tsa tlola melolwane fa di utswilwe ke ba ba rileng, di kgone to be traced motlhofo ka maranyane one ao; e ka nna drones le a mangwe.

Ke botse gore Puso e tsamaya fa kae ka maranyane ao ka gore Puso e na le go bua ka dikgang tsa bo digitization?
18 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME Se sengwe gape sa bofelo Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, e nna gore kana go lebega go sena very clear protocols tsa gore fa kgomo, podi, nku kgotsa tonki e utswilwe ka kwa lefatsheng le lengwe, mafatshe a mabedi a dirisana jang gore kgomo, tonki, nku, kana podi eo e kgone go boela ka kwano?
Gape re lebile thata dikgang tse di tshwanang le malwetsi a bo Tlhako le Molomo ka gore fa gongwe fa o re o busetsa kgomo ka kwano kgotsa podi, gatwe nnyaa e tlaa bo e tlisa Tlhako le Molomo, a bo e bolawa.

Gongwe Mothusa Tautona, a ko a re sedimosetse gore a go na le kakanyo epe ya go nna le a national strategy ya go leka go bona gore kgang e ya bogodu jwa leruo e ka tweng, jo e leng gore bo dirwa ke baagisanyi ba rona, e ka nna ba Zimbabwe, South African kana Namibia.
Ke re Mothusa Tautona a tle a re e tlhalosetse, re tle re nne le tharabololo ka gore go lebega batho ba dikgaolo di le di ntsi jaanong ba nnile le kgatlhego e tona ya gore kgang e e a tweng ka gore e a ba ama.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Good afternoon Mr Speaker, ke dumedise Batswana kwa magaeng le mo ditoropong.

Ke potso e ntle thata, mme fela tlaa ke supe gore Batswana ba tlhaloganye gore dipotso tse di a bo di bodiwa mang.

Dipotso tse ga di bodiwe Mothusa Tautona.


…Silence… HONOURABLE MEMBER: O timile.

MR SPEAKER: We cannot hear you.

MR TSOGWANE: Ba timilwe?

A re a utlwana?

MR SPEAKER: Ke gone o utlwalang jaanong, re ne re ntse re sa go utlwe.

MR TSOGWANE: Ke ntse ke go dumedisa Mr Speaker, ke re good afternoon Mr Speaker, ga o a nkutlwa?

MR SPEAKER: Go tswa foo o bo o nyelela.

MR TSOGWANE: Ooh sorry.

Go raya gore maranyane a nyeletse.


Ke ne ke re ke dumedise batsadi kwa dikgaolong, ke leboge mmotsi wa potso e bong Mopalamente wa Bobirwa.

Ke bo ke supe jaana gore, dipotso tsa mofuta o, di a bo di bodiwa motho yo o bidiwang gotwe Leader of the House, yo o okametseng ditsamaiso tsa Puso mo Palamenteng.

Motho yo e ka nna Mothusa Tautona jaaka ke le Mothusa Tautona jaana, kana e ka nna mongwe yo o kgethilweng ke Tautona gore e bo e le ene ka nako eo Leader of the House.
Jaanong ke ene yo tota a bodiwang dipotso.

Dipotso tse di tlhamaletse, mme e bile go na le Matona a a lebaganyeng le tsone mo ministries.

Mapalamente a mangwe ba di botsa Matona a a lebaneng gore e re fa ba ya go atolosa kgang, e bo e le gore Mapalamente ao, ka gore ke bone ba ba dirang, ba ba itseng go le go ntsi ka dikgang dipe fela tse di bodiwang ka ministry wa bone, ba bo ba ka lebagana sentle le kgang.

Le fa go ntse jalo, ke araba potso e Mr Speaker.


E boditswe ka sejatlhaphi, le fa mong wa yone a e adile ka botlalo ka Setswana.

Le nna e tlaa re phelelong, ke e phepafatse ka Setswana ka bokhutshwane.

Gore ke dire tshiamo, e tle e utlwale sentle gore potso nngwe le nngwe e boditswe jang, e arabilwe jang, ka Sekgoa sone se e boditsweng ka sone, ke tlaa simolola ke riana Mr Speaker, ke arabe dipotso tse, di tlhano ka fa di boditsweng ka teng.
Mr Speaker, livestock theft is an issue of concern in Botswana, and the Government is doing all in its powers to curb.

Various mitigation strategies continue to be implemented.

Livestock is fundamental to the livelihood of Batswana.

It is seen as a source of income, wealth and status.

The Setswana adage ke se nopola sa re, “ka e rua ka tlhoka boroko, ka e tlhoka le gone ka bo tlhoka,” fully captures the importance of livestock to the average Motswana.
(i) I confirm that cross border livestock theft in Botswana, particularly the Kgalagadi, Goodhope-Mabule, Tutume Sub-District and Ramotswa is a challenge.

Kgatleng area has not yet experienced cross border livestock theft unlike other areas.

On the other hand, stock theft cases were recorded in Ghanzi and North East areas during the year 2021.

The total number of livestock stolen are indicated by the table.

Let me just go straight to the table Mr Speaker.
19 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME Table 1: Livestock stolen in 2020 AREA Kgalagadi Goodhope-Mabule Tutume Ramotswa TOTAL Cattle 12 - - - 12 Table 2: Livestock stolen in 2021 AREA Kgalagadi Ghanzi North East Goodhope-Mabule Tutume Ramotswa TOTAL Cattle 14 13 - 4 17 - 48 Horses 1 - - - 1 Horses - 1 - - - - 1 Goats 111 - - 18 129 Goats 207 - 19 - - 3 229 Sheep 18 27 - - 45 Sheep 42 - - - - - 42 Mule 1 - - - 1 Mule - - - - - - 0 Donkeys - - 20 - 20 Donkeys - - - - 4 - 4 TOTAL 143 27 20 18 208 TOTAL 263 14 19 4 21 3 324 (ii) Mr Speaker, there are several security and diplomatic interventions that have so far been mobilized to deal with the problem of cross border livestock theft.
These include the following; • Formation of anti-stock smuggling teams patrolling around the areas.

• Engagement of the community through the Farmers Anti-Stock-theft Committee, to assist in the fight against stock-theft.

• Collaboration with other stakeholders in the fight against cross-border crime, to further enhance the Botswana Police Service personnel deployed along the affected areas of the boundary (joint patrols).
• Implementation of the resolutions reached at several fora such as the Joint Permanent Commission (JPC), quarterly bilateral meetings, BI-National Commission, the one that will be sitting in a week’s time.

• The formation of a fully-fledged Anti-Stock Theft Branch within law enforcement.
• Mr Speaker, it is our view that these interventions yield positive results as they enhance information sharing and intelligence-led operations/investigations which results in interceptions or recovery of some stolen stock and reduction of stock theft cases.

(iii) Mr Speaker, I am aware of the digital solutions offered by Information Technology (IT) companies that could be used to monitor herds/livestock.
This is an area that we are exploring as Government, as we continue to digitise our systems in line with the RESET Agenda as the Honourable Member rightly stated in his question.

Farmers are encouraged to utilise technology to increase security of their livestock.
The use of licensed drones, ear tagging, setting up geo fences, some of the technologies that we are exploring, have in some countries proven to be of great help to farmers in that geo fences assist in defined digital parameters and once such are breached, alarms/signals are sent to farmers to warn them of a potential breach that could pose danger to their animals or livestock.
(iv) Mr Speaker, the farmers, whose cattle has been stolen and found in neighbouring countries are assisted in several ways; 20 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME • Transport and other logistics at Government cost to identify their livestock.

• Following identification, farmers are assisted with importation processes for such livestock in a situation where there is no disease outbreak.
• Where there is a disease outbreak, farmers are compensated following destruction of their stock.

• In countries where importation of livestock is prohibited, farmers are accompanied by police officers for auction sales, proceeds of which they are entitled to.

(v) Mr Speaker, combating cross border crime including Stock Theft has always been Government priority.

This is demonstrated by the various strategies as stated in part (ii) of this response.
These national strategies and protocols are continuously reviewed as and when necessary to improve efforts to mitigate cross border theft.

Over and above the current strategies in place, the BI- National Commissions form a part of a bigger strategy that Government uses to combat cross border rustling.

Mr Speaker, that is the response.


Ka bokhutshwane fela ke sa batle go jela batlotlegi nako ka gore ba tlaa nna le dipotso, ke ne ke re ke supe fela jalo gore ke boammaaruri go na le letshwenyego la go utswiwa ga leruo le tlodisetswa mo mafatsheng a a bapileng.

E bile gape ke supile ka dipalo mafelo a motlotlegi a neng a boditse ka one a leruo le barui ba tshwenyegileng ka lone le le utswiwang.
O amile ntlha ya gore Bobonong mo nakong e e fa moragonyana, go ne ga tlhomiwa batlhotlhomisi go bona gore se se diragalang ka kwa, se ka fedisiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Ke boammaaruri Mr Speaker, gore commission e ne ya tlhomiwa, mme e setse e roletse Ofisi ya ga Tautona pego ya bone.

E na le recommendations tse di supang gore e ke e e amogelesegileng, e can be modified kana e e ka nama e beilwe pele fale.
Ntlo e e tlaa itsisiwe ka botlalo fa Tautona a setse a lebile report eo, a bo a bona gore a re e neele e nne in the public consumption.

Go tlaa nna jalo ka nako eo Mr Speaker, ka jalo, ga re ka ke ra bua ka tse di mo go yone mo nakong ya gompieno.
Ke supile ka botlalo mo karabong ya me gore didirisiwa tsa segompieno di teng, tse di ka dirisiwang go bona gore a mme leruo fa le tsamaela go tlola melelwane, go ne go ka se ke go dirwe ditsela tse go ka salwang morago, ga latedisiwa gore di tsamaela fa kae, di ka bonwa kae.

Ke ntlha e ke supileng gore didirisiwa tseo di teng, go santse go sekasekiwa tse di ka kgonagalang mo nakong ya gompieno.

Go na le golo gatwe drones, ke tsaya gore Batswana ba di itse thata ka gore go buiwa thata ka tsone.
E bile go na le dilo gatwe geo fencing, le tsone ke didirisiwa tse o ka supang ka boranyane gore fa selo se tlola, go bo ga ka nna le gone to report mo go bao gore selo se ka tswa se tlodile fa o radileng teng.

A re re gongwe geo fencing o dira polase ya gago, o e tsenya boranyane jone joo, e tlaare fa di tlola boundary e o tlaabong o e tsentse, di bo di ka supa di letsa alarm gore dikgomo di dule mo polaseng.
Ka go rialo Mr Speaker, e ne e le tsone dikarabo tsa dipotso tse motlotlegi a di boditseng, ke mo lebogele go botsa dipotso tseo.

Ke a itse gore phefo e fokela kae, tota ene o ne a batla go botsa ka commission, mme e tlaa tla Lucas.

Ke a leboga.

MR LUCAS: Supplementary.

Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re Mothusa Tautona fa a bodiwa dipotso, o na le go alela dikgang tsa gagwe ka go supa gore nnyaa, mme di lebane maphata.
Re a bo re botsa Mothusa Tautona ka gore fa gongwe dikgang tse di tshwanang le tse, di a bo di ama maphata a a farologanyeng kgotsa re botsa Leader of the House ka gore dikgang tse di a bo di ama maphata a a farologanyeng.

For instance, kgang ya cross-border livestock theft, o tlaa fitlhela e ama Ministry wa Defence, Justice and Security, Agriculture le International Affairs.

Jaanong fa gongwe o fitlhela go lebane gore ene e le Leader of the House, o ka araba dipotso tse a tsere dikarabo koo le koo.
A se ka a nna a ngongoregela seemo seo.

Go a ikutlwatsa Mothusa Tautona gore gone mo mafelong a ke sa tswang go a bolela, go utswiwa ga leruo go teng, gongwe ga go lekane le kwa kgaolong ya Bobirwa.

Se motho a ka se botsang ke gore, mme leruo le le setseng le kile la tsewa, le le kgonneng go bonwa la busetswa ka kwano, mo go more than 500 livestock units tse o neng o bua ka tsone, ke dipalo tse kae?

Gongwe a ko o re sedimosetse.


Sa bobedi, re sedimosetse gore mme fa e kare kgang ya gore kgomo, tonki kgotsa podi e bo e utswilwe kwa lefatsheng le lengwe, e bo e swela koo, go santse go emetswe tsheko, dithulaganyo ke eng go leka go thusa sone seemo sa motho yo leruo la gagwe le tlaabong le swetse gone ka kwa lefatsheng le lengwe?

A go na le thuso epe e a ka e bonang fa e le gore leruo la gagwe le ka swela gone koo le emetse tsheko?
21 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME Sa borabo ke gore, kana batho ba ba utswelwang leruo ka tsela yone e, bontsi jwa bone ba sala ba le mo lehumeng le le gakgamatsang.

Bangwe ba bone kana fa e le gore o utswetswe dipodi di le 20, e a bo e le tsone fela tse a nang le tsone.
Potso ya me e nna gore batho ba ba ntseng jalo, a go na le tsela epe ya go ba phimola dikeledi go ba thusa go tsweledisa botshelo ka gore go raya gore fa a tseetswe dipodi tsotlhe tse a neng a na le tsone, botshelo jwa gagwe bo feletse gone foo mabapi le itsholelo.

Sa bone ke gore mo kgaolong ya Bobirwa ka kwano, le ne la tlisa Ambassador wa Zimbabwe gore re tle re rere le ene a tle a kgone go tsibosa bagagabo ka kwa gore kana go na le bothata jwa go utswiwa ga leruo.
Ke ipotsa gore mo mafelong a re sa tswang go a bua a, a mme gone go kile ga nna le dithulaganyo tsone tseo tsa gore Ambassador wa lefatshe le e tlaabong e le gore bogodu joo bo diragala kwa go lone, gongwe le ene le mmiletse ka kwano, le tle le utlwe gore o ka le thusa ka ditlhaloso kgotsa ra bereka le bone go thusa go lwantsha bogodu jone joo?

O ne o re phefo e fokela kae?


E re o fetsa o supe gore White Paper ya commission e e neng e dirilwe mo Bobirwa, e tswa leng ka gore leruo le ntse le a utswiwa jaaka re bua jaana.

Mo nakong fela ya kgwedi tse pedi tse di fetileng, go setse go utswilwe leruo le feta 100, gongwe fa White Paper e ne e ka tswa e ne e ka re thusa go lwantsha bogodu jo bo tsweletseng.

E tswa leng White Paper rra, re tle re kgone go thusa seemo se se ka kwano.

Ke a leboga.

MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker.


Nte ke simolole ka ya bofelo, ya gore report e tlaa tswa leng.

Report jaaka ke boletse, e na le tsamaiso ya gore e ya go rolwa kwa go Tautona a e lebelela a bona ka fa ba neng ba recommend ka teng.

E re a sena go e lebelela, e ya le kwa Cabinet ya gagwe, morago ga moo report e tswe.

Jaanong ke go rurifaletsa gore report e fetile ka Tautona le kwa Cabinet, jaanong re solofela gore e tlaa tswa mo bogautshwane.
Gongwe fa go ka bo go arabile Tona wa Ofisi ya ga Tautona, o ka bo a na le date, but re solofela gore ka ditsamaiso tse e di setseng morago di setse di wela, e tlaa tswa mo bogautshwaneng.

MR LUCAS: Go bonya thata.

MR TSOGWANE: Rra?

MR LUCAS: Go bonya, re felelwa ke leruo ka kwano.

MR TSOGWANE: Re a utlwa, le wena o begile late gore go tle go itlhaganelwe.

O ka bo o sale o begile o santse o batla tlhopho (campaign).

E ka bo gompieno report e sa bolo go tswa.


MR LUCAS: Ke eng o ikgatlha ka rona, waitse maemo a a gago a a dira gore o ikgatlhe ka batho ba ba senyegelwang mo go kanakana.

MR TSOGWANE: Nte re tswelele Lucas, re tloga re itaya batho tsebe.

Re tloga re itaya Batswana tsebe.

O ne o bua ka Ambassadors, gore Ambassador wa kwa Zimbabwe o ne a tla go tla go nnela dipuisano tse di rileng, gore le bone ba lemoge seemo se le mo go sone.
Ke boammaaruri go ntse jalo, kana mafelo a mangwe a jaaka o sa tswa go lemoga mo dipalong le wena o dumela gore tota fa go tshwantshanngwa mafelo le kwa Bobonong, Bobonong go maswe thata.

Jaanong go raya gore mafelo a mangwe a, jaaka Ramotswa, go utswile dipodi di le tharo fela mo ngwageng o otlhe wa 2021.

Kwa Goodhope-Mabule go utswilwe kgomo tse nne mo ngwageng otlhe.
Ke tsaya gore fa re bua ka bi-commission kwa Tautona a buisanang le bo Tautona ba mafatshe a a bapileng le ene, go tlaa re re bone gore gongwe go ka tshwaraganelwa dipuisano le Ambassadors ba mafelo a otlhe a. Ke raya gore thata thata Bobonong, e ne e le seemo se e mo go sone gompieno.

Ke sone se go neng ga itlhaganelelwa gore dipuisano di nne teng, e bile go nne le commission.

Go ne go na le potso e nngwe e e reng, fa motho a utswetswe leruo lotlhe go dirwa jang ka ene.
Kgang nngwe le nngwe e arabiwa ka fa e ntseng ka teng, e sekwasekwa ka fa e ntseng ka teng, le go bona gore a mme go dithuso dingwe tse di teng ka fa tsamaisong le ka fa molaong tse motho a ka thusiwang ka tsone.

Ke ka tswa ke sena le tsone gompieno jaaka ke boletse le wena o dumela gore dipotso tse di tswa dikarabo mo maphateng a a farologanyeng.

Ka gore re ba romelela potso jaaka e ntse, fa gongwe ba a bo ba sena go araba go feta potso jaaka e boditswe.
Gone we will find out gore tota go ka dirwa jwang mo seemong seo.

E tshwana fela le ya leruo le le setseng le bonwe, gore ke leruo le le kae le le neng la busiwa.

Ga ke na karabo ya dipalo, jaaka ke bua ke tse re ka di batlang ra di neela motlotlegi.

Le le swetseng ka koo, gore go dirwa jang ka lone, le ditsamaiso tse di leng teng mo maphateng ka go farologana ga ke na karabo ya teng.

Ga ba a ka ba nna le karabo mo seemong seo, ka e ne e se bontlha bongwe jwa potso.
Go raya gore ga ba a ka ba e tsenya leitlho thata.

Ke tsone dikarabo tseo Motlotlegi Rre Lucas.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga di kgotsofatse.

DR TSHABANG: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Thank you Honourable Lucas for the questions.

Selo sa ntlha your Honour… 22 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME MR TSOGWANE: Buela kwa godimonyana Dr, o kare o kgakala le microphone.
DR TSHABANG: Selo sa ntlha fa o bala statistics tsa gago, o supa gore o bala dipalo tsa 2020 le 2021, mme potso is not restricted to 2020 le 2021.

Ga ke itse gore o tlhophile 2020 le 2021 jang.

Tota kgang e e tswa kgakala, le kwa dikgaolong tsa rona go na le dikgang which go back to 2017.

Ke ipotsa gore tseo o di tlogeletse eng.

Go lebega e le gore ministries tse re buang ka tsone tsa Defence, Agriculture le International are disjointed.
Rona re na le case e e leng gore leruo le lengwe le ne la fitlhelwa kwa lefatsheng le la Zimbabwe, magodu ba kwa ba sekisiwa ba bonwa molato.

Go bo gotwe Batswana ba busediwe dikgomo tsa bone, process ya gore ba busetswe dikgomo ke gore veterinary should take over, e tla e ba phimola dikeledi, kana dikgomo tseo e di bolaya kana e di rekisa koo.

Nothing has happened in the past five years as we speak.

Ke ipotsa gore go ntse go diile eng, mo dikgannyeng tseo.
Ga o bone gore go nne le Inter ministerial Coordinating Committee, mo dikgannyeng tsa cattle rustling ke batho ba mafatshe a sele.

O bua ka Anti-Stock Theft Branch, which has been there for some time.

Ke ipotsa gore ke eng kwa go rona e ntse e sa goroge mo dikgaolong tseo Your Honour.

Re ntse re bona e ntse e bereka mo lefatsheng ka bophara, mme kwa go rona e a tlhaela, kwa re nang le an additional problem ya cross border crime ya diphologolo.

Ke eng e ntse e sa atologe ya ya koo?

Thank you Mr Speaker.


MR TSOGWANE: Dr Tshabang o ka boelela ya bofelo.

O ne o re ke eng se se sa gorogang kwa go lona, tsamaiso efe?

DR TSHABANG: Anti Stock Theft Unit, e o neng o re e mo police.

I am aware gore it has been there for some time, mme ke ipotsa gore ke eng e ntse e sa goroge kwa go rona ka botlalo, ka gore mo lefatsheng lotlhe mo gareng ga lefatshe re ntse re e bona e bereka, le television (TV) e supa leruo le le utswileng.
Kwa go tlhokafalang an additional backup ya cross border cattle theft, ga e bonale thatathata.

Re ipotsa gore ke eng e sa goroge koo.

Thank you.

MR TSOGWANE: Thank you.

Let me start with the last one again Mr Speaker, e ya thulaganyo e ya bogodu jwa leruo, go ithulaganya mo go feteletseng mo go tshwaraganetsweng ke ba sepodise, ba kgona gore ba tsamaye ba phuruphutshe, e re tlholang re ntse re utlwa ka yone.

Le rona kwa mafelong a mangwe a rona ga e ise e goroge.
Ke a utlwa gore ngongorego ke gore ga e ise e goroge, go bapana le border kwa bogodu jwa go tlodisa dikgomo bo leng bontsi, e ka bo bone ba thulaganyo e ba sepodise ba e gorositse.

Ke tsaya gore Tona Rre Mmusi o utlwa ngongorego ya gago Dr Tshabang, o tlaa bona gore e goroga leng ka koo, le gore e ntse e diilwe ke eng e sa goroge.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke mo utlwile Your Honour.

MR TSOGWANE: Go tshwaraganela kgang e ga maphata; Inter-Ministerial Coordinating Committee ke mogopolo o o siameng.
Ke tsaya gore maphata jaaka a ntse jaana a tshwanetse gore a bo a thusana fa go amang dithoto tse di amang maphata ka bobedi kana ka boraro.

Le yone ke tshedimoso e e botlhokwa, ya gore ba bone gore a mme jaanong fa go sena go nna go sekwa ba veterinary ka ke bone ba permits le sengwe le sengwe, ba a fefoga gore kgang tsa go nna jalo dikgomo di kgone gore di busiwe.
Eo is a case e e tshwanetseng gore e latisiswe Dr Tshabang, e e tshwanetseng gore go begiwe go utlwiwe gore gatwe ke eng go tsere lebaka, di kae, a di tlaa tlhola di boa tota?

Kgang ya teng e tle e tswalwe.

Ke tsaya gore ke case e e ka latedisiwang.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mmusi o e arabile.

Mma Manake o e arabile gore go diega ba veterinary.

MR TSOGWANE: Ee, ke a utlwa.

Tona ke tsaya gore o teng o a utlwa, a tsholetse maoto.
Go na le dingwaga tse di kwa morago, re ne re tsaya gore di gautshwane, tse di current so to speak.

Re tsaya 2021 le 2020, re a itse gore ke kgang e kgologolo e e tswang goo-Lowe.

Re ne re ka se ke ra ya kwa dikgannyeng tse di kgologolo.

Re simolole ka tse di segautshwane, tse di sha.

Ga go na sepe se se special about 2020/2021.

Ke dilo tse di sha tse di tlaa re supegetsang motlhala gore currently go diragala eng mo nakong ya gompieno.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


MR HIKUAMA: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Le nna mma ke latedise dipotsonyana tse pedi ke tse, Mothusa Tautona, ke Moeteledipele wa Komiti ya Palamente ya Labour and Home Affairs.

Re ne ra nna le mosepele o o re bontshitseng gore dingwe tsa boarder fences tsa rona bogolo jang tse di kwa Ghanzi kafa, Dobe le tsa Ramokgwebana, go lebega di le porous thata mo di senyegileng.
A ga le bone gore go senyega ga diterata mo di oleng, go ka oketsa bogodu jwa leruo fa gare ga mafatshe?

Go ka dirwa jang gore 23 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME melelwane e e gagamadiwe, e eme sentle?

Fa e le gore batho ba ka utswa, ba dirise methale e mengwe, e seng ba itsamaele fela go sena se se ba kganelang.

Ba fudusa leruo kwano go ya kwa mafatsheng a mangwe.
Potso e nngwe e ke ka e latedisang ke ya gore, go na le Stock Theft Unit mo sepodiseng, mme lekalana le, go lebega le na le le leshekere la didirisiwa; e ka tswa e le dikoloi le staff, di kwa tlase fela thata.

Ke leina fela, o fitlhela lepodise fa gongwe le le lengwefela.

What I am trying to say, it is not well resourced in terms of staff and resources.

Ga ke itse gore a ga o bone gore nako e tsile ya gore Lekalana la Bogodu jwa Leruo, le gagamadiwe ka ditsela tsotlhe gore le thuse?
Go nne le baitseanape ba ba ka latedisang leruo le le utswiwang fa gare ga mafatshe, jaaka re na le makalana a mangwe a sepodise a a nonotshitsweng mme a dira tiro ya one a phuthologile.

Ke a leboga.

MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mma ke simolole ka ya bofelo, se o se buang sa gore go nonotshiwe makalana ke boammaaruri, ke se se diragalang.

Ke se Puso e semeletseng mo go sone go bona gore makalana a, go nna le batho ba ba rutetsweng bogodu jwa leruo le ditsheko tsa teng.
Go nne le batho ba ba rutetsweng ditlhotlhomiso tsa go nna jalo.

Go tlaa nna go ntse go dirwa ka sengwe le sengwe se dirwa ka madi.

Go tlaa nna go tokafadiwa, go bonwa methale e mengwe jaaka fa ke araba mmotsi wa potso.

Re tlaa leka go dirisa tsa boranyane jwa segompieno.

Ke ditokafatso tse di tsamaelang gone koo.

Kgang e nngwe ya diterata; ke mathata.

Mo magodung a leruo diterata ga se sepe.

Ba a di kgaola, e bile ba a di senya.


Se se botlhokwa se se lekwang ke go bona gore go nne le tsela e go ka patorolwang (patrol) diterata tse kgapetsakgapetsa.

Go na le dilo mo mafelong a mangwe tse di bidiwang pickets.

Distance tsa teng di lebalebiwe, di fokodiwe gore batho ba kgone go patorola sentle.

Sekgoreletsi se sengwe fa re bua ka mafelo a a tshwanang le Kgalagadi kafa le kwa Goodhope-Mabule go ya kafa, ke gore along our borders go sekgwa.

Go lekwa thata gore go nne le bush clearing.


Re kile ra leka in the past gore go nne go tsenngwa Ipelegeng e e ntsi.

It is very important because mafelo a mangwe a sekgwa, ga go na jaaka o ka tsamaela kwa molelwaneng.

Ga go na jaaka o ka itse dilo di tlodile jang ka go a bo go le sekgwa.

Re leka to clear along the border lines gore fa dilo di tserwe, di latedisiwe motlhofo.

Ke tsaya gore ke dilo tse re tlaabong re di lebeletse Rre Hikuama.

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker and good afternoon sir.

Thank you Your Honour, le Rre Taolo Lucas ke mo dumedise.

Mothusa Tautona, go lebega mafatshe a re bapileng le one a tshabelelwa ke Tlhako le Molomo, re tshwaragane go le kae le bone fa ba sekaseka mananeo a yone?

Se ke se botsang ke gore, dilo fa di thobetse kwa South Africa, go lebega ka lebaka la bolwetse jwa Tlhako le Molomo, ga di letlelelwe go boela mo Botswana.
O tlaa fitlhela ka kwano re tshwere mokwalo wa 2017/2018 dilo di sa tswa go tlola maabane ka 2021, mme gotwe go na le Tlhako le Molomo kwa South Africa.

Re tshwaragane go le kae go itse gore seemo sa Tlhako le Molomo mo mafatsheng a re bapileng le one se tsamaya fa kae?

Batswana ba tle ba letlelelwe go busetsa dilo tsa bone go sena kgotlhakgotlhano e kanakana ya go itshwarelela ka Tlhako le Molomo.
Ya bobedi, o bone gore o oketsa bodiredi jwa maSpecial Constable mo metseng e e bapileng le terata fa e leng gore borukutlhi bo bontsi thata.

Re ikaeletse go oketsa leng, ka bokete jo bokae boSpecial Constable re santse re lebile thulaganyo ya gore re tsise mapodise le masole fa go kgonagala?

Ga ke a go utlwa sentle, mme ke utlwile o bua ka thulaganyo e re neng re e dira kwa Bobonong recently.

Rraetsho Tautona o ne a e ntsha gore e diragale kwa Bobonong.
Dikgaolo tse dingwe segolo e tshwana le Kgalagadi mo dingwageng tse pedi tse o sa tswang go di bala fa Mothusa Tautona, o supa gore close to 400 animals di tloletse kwa South Africa.

Le ikaelela go atolosa thulaganyo eo leng kwa dikgaolong di tshwana le Kgalagadi rraetsho?

Ke tsaya gore ke tsone tse ke neng ke re ke di botse... MR TSOGWANE: Mma ke e utlwe sentle Brooks, thulaganyo e e tshwanang le ya kwa Bobonong ke efe?
MR BROOKS: Recently, Tautona o ne a ntshitse lekoko le le neng le ile go sekaseka tshenyo e e diragalang kwa kgaolong ya Bobonong.

MR TSOGWANE: Okay, ke utlwile.

MR BROOKS: Yes sir.

Re lebile dipalo tse di tshwarang 400 tse di diragalang kwa kgaolong ya Kgalagadi.

O tsibose batho ba ba bapileng le diterata.

O rotloetsa jang ministries gore di ikgolaganye le batho ba ba mo diterateng rraetsho?
Ya bofelo e ke utlwileng o bua ka yone Mothusa Tautona, o ne o re sekgwa se se mo terateng se kgoreletsa bana ba gago fa ba dira patrol.

Potso e nngwe gape ke gore what about diterata tsa dipolase tse di tshwaraganeng le terata, a tsone ga 24 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME se dikgoreletsi?
Fa o lebile dipolase tsa Molopo le Banyana, tsotlhe di tshwaragane le terata, a le tsone ga e ka ke ya nna sekgoreletsi gore go dirwe corridor in between the borderline le dipolase tse?

Le tshwaragane go le kae go buisana le boradipolase bao gore go nne le access road that patrols terata mongwame?

Thank you sir.

MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, ke a leboga.


Mma ke simolole ka ya bofelo, jaaka ke bua ke re dipuisano tse re di tshwereng tsa Bi-Commission, tota boTautona ba a buisana thata ka dikgang tse di amang ditsamaiso, borukutlhi fa gare ga mafatshe, including jone jwa bogodu jwa dikgomo.

Ke tsaya gore jaaka le ntse le gakolola, ke dingwe tse e leng gore boTona ba ba balebaneng ba tlaa nna ba ntse ba gakolola mo ministries tsa bone le go re gakolola kwa Cabinet gore go ka dirwa eng ka dikgang tse di ntseng jaana.
Go na le kgang ya dipolase, kgang e a tshwenya and re a itse gore di dirilwe jalo.

E ne e le ka bomo ka fa go neng go ntse ka teng.

Ke nngwe tsela ya gore go bo go tsewa matlotlo a a kwa kwano a tsenngwa mo dikgomong tse di ka kwano tsa Batswana, di tsewa e bo e nna tsela ya gore dilo di bo di nyelela ka yone.

Ke nngwe ya dilo tse e leng gore we are very much aware of.
Ke dilo tse di batlang dipuisanyo go ya kwa pele gore kana motho fa a neetswe lefatshe, fa go na le sekgoreletsi kana problem, go nne le dipuisanyo, fa go bulwa go bulwe, go nne le ditumalano tse di rileng tsa go bona gore mme dipolase tsone tse… tota gone re ka bo re re ke sengwe se se siameng gore dikgomo di se ka tsa nyelela.

Fa e ne e le gore ke dilo tse di siameng, e ka bo e le tsone buffer zone.
Dipolase tseo di ka bo e le tsone di re thusang gore jaanong dikgomo di se ka tsa fetelela kwa lefatsheng, bogolo di tle di eme mo go tsone ba di kuele.

Jaanong ga go nne jalo, e nna pipe fela or a conduit e e leng gore jaanong dilo di tsena ka yone.

Di tlhokana le dipuisanyo tse di tseneletseng jaaka o bua.

Ba a tshwenya.

Public education is very important jaaka o e bua.


Batho ba ba mo tlase ga borders ba rutiwe gore tota ba tshwanetse go itshireletsa ka tsela e e ntseng jang, ba thusane; ntebela ke go lebele ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

O ne o bua ka gore go okediwe Special Constables mo metseng e e ntseng jalo go thusa, ke boammaaruri and I cannot agree with you more mo kgannyeng e. Ke boammaaruri mme ke tsaya gore fa letlhoko le ntse le fokotsega, Tona o reeditse, o tlaa bona gore go tlhokafala go le kae gore go thusiwe.
Mafelo a a nang le Foot and Mouth, re leka thata ka gore bolwetse jo is an economic disease e e amang itsholelo both sides tsa mafatshe.

Baagisani ba rona kwa Zimbabwe le a itse gore mo nakong e e fetileng, e ne e re fa e le gore ditlamelo tsa bone gongwe di di botlana ka gore rona bolwetse jo jwa Foot and Mouth melemo ya teng re kgona go e dira ka kwano mo lefatsheng la rona, re ne re leka thata go ba thusa gore re ye go ba neela melemo.
Le fa gongwe e tlaa re fa o neela motho molemo a bo a go bolelela gore jaanong o raya gore jaanong ke ya go tsaya kae bakenti, o bo o sa itse gore ke o dire jang mme gone re a ba thusa go ba neela melemo gore ba lwantshe bolwetse jo gore dilo di tle di kgone gore di busiwe.

Jaanong kwa South Africa jaaka o bua, Foot and Mouth ya teng e tsaya lebaka.

Rona fa Tlhako le Molomo e tlhagogile, e lwantshiwa ka bofefo, mme e e tsayang lebaka le leleele ke yone e e tshwenyang thata.
Go raya gore ke dingwe tse boTautona ba tshwanetseng go di buisanya gore fa e le gore Foot and Mouth e tlaa tsaya ngwaga otlhe, dilo di tsamaya di sa kgone gore di busiwe kana…Batswana le rona re a thusana ka go bapadisana ka dikgomo e bo e nna bothata jone joo jwa Foot and Mouth.

Ke tsaya gore ke dingwe tsa dikgang tse di ka tsenang mo dipuisanyong tsa Batlotlegi boTautona ba mafatshe.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR MOTSAMAI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re ke leboge mmotsi wa potso ke bo ke tsena fela ka bonako mo go reng tse dingwe di boditswe tsa fences, bogolo jang tsa melelwane.

Mothusa Tautona, a ga o bone go na le gore go nne le potlako e e feteletseng go nale go nna le boka mathata le re madi fa a ka bonala ka sebaka sengwe nako nngwe?

Kana melelwane re raya e e kopanyang mafatshe mme kana fa e ntse jalo, e raya borukutlhi jwa mefuta e e farologaneng, e seng go cross ga leruo fela.
A ga o bone jaanong le tshwanetse gore le tswe ka lenaneo le le tsepameng le le ka kgonang go rarabolola mathata a lefatshe lotlhe la Botswana le direla mo nakong, e seng go baya moyamoleele?
Ya bobedi, Mothusa Tautona, mo kgannyeng ya lona le le Puso ka e bile re nnile lucky ra bua le Number two, lenaneo la lona le le tsepameng le le tona le lengwe la gore le thuse barua kgomo, podi, tonki, pitse ka mo gotweng insurance ya leruo le bona gore ba se ka ba babalelwa fa ba utswetswe, ke lefe go bona gore ba kgone gore ba fitlhelele, le yone insurance ba kgone go e duelele e se mo go madi a a kwa godimodimo thata?
Ya bofelo ke gore le ya go dira jang gore fa ba sepodise 25 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME ba dirile maiteko teng a go bona dipolase tsa gore leruo lone le le tshwarwang le utswulwe by crossing melelwane mme dipolase tsa sepodise di ise di nne teng sentle, le ya go dira jang ka bonako go ba thusa gore ba agelele dipolase tsa mofuta o o ntseng jalo ka seemo sa pabalelo kana sa security sa segompieno?
Ke bua jaana e le gore go na le polase ya kwa bo Hanahai e e leng gore ga e bolo go neelwa ba sepodise, ministry wa ga Rre Mmusi o lela ka madi kgapekgapetsa mme at the same time o boa gape re bona e le bone ba e leng gore madi ke tobutšhoo mo go bone le Directorate of Intelligence and Security (DIS).

Jaanong le ya go dira jang Mothusa Tautona to rationalise dikgang tse le bone gore they benefit ba sepodise ka tsela e e ntseng jang bogolo jang… HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ne o mpuisa sentle.
MR MOTSAMAI: …bogolo jang ba Chobokwane ba tle ba gololwe ka gore bone tota ke Artificial Insemination (AI) mme go bewa dikgomo tse di utswulweng kana tse di ka tswang di le mo ditlhotlhomisong?

Madi kwa Defence ke tobutšhoo.

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Your Honour, Vice President (VP).

MR MOTSAMAI: Ka re Defence Rre Mmusi, e seng wena ka sebele; ga o na madi wena.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Laughter!

)… MR TSOGWANE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, mma ke simolole ka ya bofelo.


Go botlhokwa jaaka o bua motlotlegi ka polase yone e o buang ka yone ya gore fa dilo di bonetse di kgone go tshwarelelwa golo gongwe mme di bo di le mo lefelong le le sireletsegileng.

Ke tsaya gore Tona o a utlwa o reeditse e bile o ntse o mmitsa ka leina jaana.

O tlaa leka go tsholetsa dinao go bona gore lefelo leo le o buang ka lone le nna mo tirisong e bile le a tlamelwa ka mo go tshwanetseng.
Letlhoko la madi ga re ka ke le tlaa nna le nako nngwe e le tlaabong le fedile.

Re a itse gore madi ke bothata, dikgwetlho di a tla, re ne re sa itse gore go tlaa nna le bo COVID.

Ba ne ba re wela fela re sa itse gore ba tswa kwa kae.
Ke tsaya gore ke dilo dingwe tse Tona a ka di sekasekang a bona gore fa a dirileng teng savings kana mo a bolokileng madi ka tiriso e e rileng a bo a ka kgona gore a ye go thusa ka gore ke kgang e e botlhokwa ya tlhabololo ya matshelo a batho e re e emetseng ya gore go tshwanetse gore go tlhabololwe matshelo a bone, a tokafale re lwantshe lehuma le letlhoko la ditiro.

Fa dilo tsa bone di le teng go matshwanedi gore ba thusiwe gore ba tle ba kgone gore ba itokafaletse matshelo.
Jaanong go na le kgang ya insurance.

Ke kgang e e thata Motlotlegi Motsamai ka gore insurances tsa dikgomo ba bangwe ba kile ba di leka jaaka o bua.

It is a very high risk business mo bathong ba insurances ka fa go ntseng ka teng mme ga go ise go kgonagale gore gongwe Puso can subsidise kana e ka ba duelela bontlha bongwe ka lone letlhoko le re le itseng la gore kana madi a a lebile matshelo a rona rotlhe fela.

A lebile thuto, botsogo, metsi, metlakase, jalojalo.
Jaanong insurances e ne e le dikgwebo tse di tsamaisiwang ke beng ba tsone, mme le bone ba lebega ba tshaba ka bodiphatsa jo e leng gore tshenyego gongwe e ntsi mo leruong, e e leng gore insurance e bo e se ka ke ya kgona go ikemela.

Ke dilo tse go tlaa nnang go ntse go bonwa ba gongwe ba ka tlang ba bona gore ba ka bona sebaka sa go dira kgwebo e ka go dira insurances tse di ntseng jalo, gongwe di ka thusa batho.

O buile ka bofefo, bofefo bo teng jwa gore ditiro di tshwanetse go dirwa ka bofefo.
Ke boammaaruri mananeo fa gongwe a tsaya lebaka, jaaka re tlhola re ntse re bua mo Palamenteng gore fa go na le dithulaganyo a di diragadiwe ka bofefo di tle di kgone go solegela batho molemo.

Ga ke ka ke ka ganelana le kgang e o e buang.

Ga ke itse gore a ke wele ka kgang e nngwe, legale ga ke a re ke emisa go bodiwa ga dipotso.

Kgang ele ya Bobonong ya ga Motlotlegi Lucas e botlhokwa.

Commission eo jaaka e tlaabo e dule, kana re bua ka kgang e le nngwe fela, ke yone e tlaa re rutang gore kae le kae.
Findings tsa kwa Bobonong will be replicated, di tlaa nna le kwa mafelong a mangwe, ga se gore di tlaabo di felela fela kwa Bobonong.

Go tlaabo go lebiwa kwa bothata bo leng teng jo bo tshwanang le gone kwa, go bo go ka bonwa gore, mme kana se re lekang go se fedisa fa go raya gore ka tsela e e ntseng jalo re leke gore re se fedise ka findings tse di tlaabong di dule mo commission eo, ka gore re bua ka kgang e le nngwe fela e e tshwanang.
Jaanong e tlaabo e se commission fela e e tlaa felelang fela e itebagantse le Bobonong fela.

Kwa bothata bo ntse jalo, bo befile, bo tsamaela gone kwa selekanyong sa kwa Bobonong, le ditshwetso tse di ka tsewang di ka nna tsa ya go felela di ile go tsewa le kwa mafelong a mangwe a a nang le bothata jo bo tshwanang le jone jo.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ntsha report.

MR TSOGWANE: E a tswa ee, e a tswa Lucas.

MR LUCAS: ...(Laughter!

)...O a diega.


26 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, we are resuming the debate.

When the House adjourned Honourable Minister Segokgo was on the floor, I think you are left with eight minutes 14 seconds.

OF MINISTER AND COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker, dumilani Mbidzi!
TRANSPORT Mr Speaker, ke ne ke eme fa ke neng ke santse ke bua ka kgang ya tshireletsego kana ya thaelo ya bodiredi le ditlamelo tsa tshireletso go itepatepanya le seemo sa bosenyi mo Kgaolong, mo Tlokweng.

Ke supa gore kana motse o godile, mme ba na le maikarabelo a gore ba tshwanetse gore ba thuse motse wa Tlokweng, ba bo ba ya go thusa le kwa metseng ya Mokatse le Modipane.
Go a bonala, go setse go supagala gore tota fela go tlhoka gore ba okediwe ka dipalo, e bile gape gongwe go lebiwe gore a go ne go ka seke ga agiwa satellite police stations, fa e le gore go ka seke ga kgonagala gore go agiwe police station fela e nngwe bontlha bongwe jwa motse.

Go lebilwe ka fa motse o ntseng o godile ka teng.

Ke na le mafelo a mabedi gape a a ntseng a le mo Constituency ya Tlokweng a e leng gore one ga a thusiwe ke sepodise se se mo Tlokweng.
La ntlha ke ba ba ka fa Kgale, Mmokolodi le dipolase tse di kwa Notwane, ba le bone ba nnang le diemo tsa go senyetswa kgapetsakgapetsa, bogolo jang e bile go diragetse gore ka malatsi a re ikhutsang re ya kwa Christmas.

Ba ne ba ntlhagisa tota ka fa ba tshwenngwang ke dirukutlhi ka teng.

Ka ba ka patikega gore ke bue seemo se le Tona Mmusi gore ba thuse ka patrols.

Bone ba thusiwa go tswa ka fa Naledi, ka gore tota Police Station e e ka fa Naledi le yone, ke e e ba thusang.
Mme le koo go a bonala gore tota go ntse go na le tlhaelo.

Go bo go nna le ba ba kwa dipolaseng tse di kwa Ruretse, ba ba thusiwang go tswa kwa Broadhurst, ke akanya gore e bile tota gongwe bone ba ne ba ntse ba ka kgona go thusiwa ke Tlokweng fa e ne e le gore e nonotshitswe sentle, gore e kgone go nna le bodiredi jo bo ka ba kgonisang.
Le bone ba nkwaletse fela jaana, ba supa gore ba tshwenngwa ke gore kgapetsakgapetsa go na le ba ba thubang mo matlong a bone ba tsaya dithoto, mme e bile ka gore ke mafelo a a fa tlase ga dikgwa, magodu a tshabela mo dikgweng tse fa ba sena go senya.

Ke kopa tota fela gore seemo se se lebalebiwe thata, gore o tle o oketse bodiredi jwa sepodise mo kgaolong.
Tota go ntse go na le kgang e e ntseng e buiwa, go na le potso e e neng e bodiwa ke Motlotlegi Lucas ka go utswiwa ga leruo, mme boammaaruri ke gore, le kwa Tlokweng tota leruo le a utswiwa.

Bothata e le terata ya molelwane gore le yone e na le fa e senyegileng teng, mo e bileng bangwe ba ne ba setse ba kopile mo go nna gore ke kope kwa go Tona Mmusi gore a leke gore a o ka se ka bana ba e baakanya.
Mme ba e baakanya e le gore fela ba tlhoka gore go bo go na le thulaganyo e e siameng, go itsiwe gore ba e baakanya gongwe go na le ba sepodise foo, gore ba ba ka kwa ga molelwane ba se ka ba akanya gore ke dirukutlhi.

Ka gore dikgomo tse fa di utswiwa di tsewa di isiwa bokgala jwa kwa… (inaudible)…ke gore almost 200 kilometres, gore morui a simolole a kgone gore a ye go bona kgomo e ya gagwe, mme go e busa jaaka go setse go ntse go tlhalositswe ke selo se se bokete.
Ke nngwe ya dilo tse ke bonang gore le tsone ke di sedimose, gore bothata jo bo re apere gone mo Tlokweng.

Mr Speaker, gone go botlhokwa gore fa gongwe kana jaaka re bua jaana re akgela, re nne le tse re di lebogelang, ka gore gone go a bo go sa ema tshootshoo fela, le mororo NDP 11 e ne e sa tshwarela kgaolo ya me sepe se se kae.

Re tshwanetse ra leboga dikago tse di neng tsa dirwa go tokafatsa boroko jwa barutabana, bo ntse ga bo ise bo lekane.
Di ne di agiwa kwa Matlala, ra nna lesego gore ra di bona ka ESP.

Se sengwe gape se ke se lebogelang se se dirilweng ke go atolosa mafaratlhatlha a motlakase, a re solofelang gore go weleng ga one monongwaga go tlaa simolola go thusa gore motlakase o o mo Tlokweng o nne o o ikaegang, o o sekeng o kgaoga.

E bile o re lekana, motse, le motse, jaaka o tlaabo o gola.
Re lebogele classrooms tse di neng tsa okediwa kwa Mafitlhakgosi, Batlokwa le Kgosikgosi, Primary Schools, tseo di ne tsa bona go nna le koketsego eo ya classrooms.

Mme ke santse ke gatelela, ke bua gore, kana fa o ntse o oketsa classrooms tsa dikole tse di potlana tse, letlhoko le le tona ke la sekole se se golwane, bogolo jang se se tsayang bana ba e leng gore dithuto tsa bone ba ya go dira Botswana General Certificate of Secondary Education (BGCSE).

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O filwe le ditsela gape.


MR SEGOKGO: Ke lebogela ditsela.

Ga ke itse gore ke mang yo o nthusang.

Mme mo go e ya ditsela ke ne ke santse ke tlaa e akgela thata bogolo kwa Committee of Supply.

Lebaka la me e le gore e re re di bone jalo di 27 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) tlaa thusa thata go bonagala gore tota fela bodiredi bo ne jwa se ka jwa tsamaisa, jwa nna le morero sentle gore ditsela tse di tlaa agiwang, di nne molemo mo morafeng ka kakaretso ka lebaka la gore kana di agiwa di na le storm water drain.

Ba ne ba itseela ditshwetso tsa bone, ba se ka ba rera.
Ya re re sena go nna re leka go dira se re se dirang go baakanya gore go nne le morero oo, maswabi ke gore ditsamaiso le tsone kwa khanseleng tsa boa tsa busetsa gore kgomo jaanong e boile e tsentse tlhako mo kgamelong.

Ke mo ke neng ke batla gore ke tle ke go bue sentle kwa Committee of Supply ka gore tota fela re a di lebogela.

Re lebogela se se dirwang mme re bona gore go tlhoka morero ke gone mo go ka nnang ga dira gore re se ka ra akola jaaka re ne re solofetse gore re tlaa akola.
Ke rata fela ke garela ka sengwe ke se ke re ka gore ke ne ka tlogela ka bofefo ke batla go bua dingwe tse di ntshwenyang kwa kgaolong, kana ke a tle ke utlwe batlotlegi e kete ba nyatsa Lenaneo la PPP.

Ba tshwanetse go lemoga gore fa e se yone, go raya gore re letle madi a re tlaabong re kgona gore Tona a re a abele gore re dire ditiro tse.

Le one kana madi le fa a ntshitswe, re a tle re bone gore go nna le tiego e e tleng e nne teng mo procurement jaaka ke ne ke tlhalositse.
Jaanong Lenaneo le la PPP, pharologanyo ya teng ke gore kana jaanong le golola Goromente gore a se ka a dirisa madi a gagwe gone foo, mme mo tsamaong ya nako ke gone jaaka Tona a ne a tlhalosa gore ke gone madi a tlaa tlhokafalang gore a tsene mo Recurrent Budget.
Se setona se ke batlang go se supa fela ke gatelele mafoko a ga Tona Mmusi ke gore, rona re kopa thuso thata kwa Ministry wa Finance gore tota fela dithulaganyo re di wetse ka gore the problem ga se the technical side of it ya go aga tsela, ke the financial arrangements.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister.

Honourable Majaga.

…Silence… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Majaga.


…Silence… OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MODUKANELE): Mr Speaker, ntle ke go leboge gore o bo o mphile tshono mo maitseboeng a gompieno.

Ke dumedise Mapalamente le Batswana, bogolo jang Bakgopeng kwa Lerala-Maunatlala.

Ntle gape ke lebogele pego e Mmaetsho Serame a re e beileng fa pele ya Budget ya kgaoganyo ya madi a ngwaga wa 2022/2023.
Mr Speaker, ke batla go simolola ka boripana ke akgole Mma Serame jaaka ba ba setseng ba dirile jalo.

Ke supe jaana Mr Speaker, gore ga re mo akgolele gore a bo a filwe boikarabelo jo ka gore ke mme, ke mo akgola ka gore ke a itse e bile ke na le tshepho gore o ya go dira tiro e ka manontlhotlho.

She has an impeccable track record e rotlhe re e itseng a le mo bodirelapusong, tsotlhe tse a di dirileng le fa a le kwa Ministry wa Trade re ntse re itse, a tshwere ka manontlhotlho Mr Speaker.
It is only fair gore re lemoge e bile re mo eleletse katlego mo boikarabelong jo jwa gagwe, jo Tautona a boneng go tshwanela e bile le rona re dumela gore ka boammaaruri o tlaa nna a ntse a tswelela a isa lefatshe la rona kwa pele mo boikarabelong jo jwa gagwe jo bosha.

Mr Speaker, ntle ke boele mo kgannyeng e e leng fa pele ga rona.
Kana sengwe se ke batlang go se nopola fa ke simolola Mr Speaker ke gore, Minister o supile mo pegong ya gagwe gore 2022/2023 Kgaoganyo ya madi a Setšhaba, sengwe se se botlhokwa ke gore ke ngwaga wa bofelo mo togamaanong ya tsa NDP 11.

Jaanong motho o ka botsa Mr Speaker, gore what is the significance of that to motho a tshwana le yo o kwa Moremi, Maunatlala, o bo o fologa ka Lentswemathakola le bo Mokungwane jalo Mr Speaker.
Botlhokwa jwa teng bo fa Mr Speaker, gore kana go raya gore ke ngwaga o re konetelelang NDP 11, e e leng gore e ne e na le mananeo a a farologaneng, a re neng re solofela Mr Speaker, gore re le Puso le lefatshe e tlaa re ka ngwaga o fa o ya fifing, re bo re a dirile.

Mr Speaker, mo pegong ya ga Minister o supile gore dingwaga tsa ntlha tsa NDP 11, indeed dilo di ne di solofetsa gore re ya go goroga, re tlaa lala re kgonne seelo se re se ipeetseng.
Ka go tlhoka lesego, the last part of NDP 11 jaaka ke re re ya kwa motsubong jaaka Minister a supile, ra tlhoka lesego la go nna jalo ka mabaka a re setseng re a itse a COVID-19 and the rest is history Mr Speaker.

Ke one a ke batlang go supa jaana gore tsotlhe tse dintsi tse re neng re di solofetse le kwa Kgaolong ya Lerala-Maunatlala re di solofeditse Bakgopeng, bontsi jwa tsone ga di a kgonega.
Se se tlang mo tlhaloganyong ya me ka nako yone e Mr Speaker, ke bua ke leba kgaolo e tshwana le ya Ratholo, kwa re neng re solofetse gore expansion ya clinic e ya go nna teng.

Kgaolo e tshwana le ya Matlhakola if I am 28 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) not wrong, re ne re solofetse the same gore clinic e ya go atolosiwa.
Re ba re solofela go le teng mo NDP 11 Mr Speaker, gore re ya go bona sepatela kwa Lerala sa Primary Hospital le clinic kwa Maunatlala if I may just cite a few.
Mr Speaker, re na le tsholofelo re le ba Lerala-Maunatlala gore as we migrate into NDP 12, tsholofelo le tumelo ya me ke gore these were priorities mo NDP 11 and lephata le le maleba ke leba Rre Dikoloti le monnawe Rre Lelatisitswe, le bodiredi jwa botsogo, they will still put and take dilo tse e ntse e le priorities ka gore ga re a di kgona mme e bile seemo gompieno sa botsogo mo Kgaolong ya Lerala-Maunatlala, ga se ise se tokafale ka tsela epe Mr Speaker.
They were identified as priorities then, they are still priorities today and they will be more than a priority tomorrow.

Ke one a ke reng fa e re re ya kwa pele Mr Speaker, ke batla go bua ka tswee-tswee ke sa bonyabonye gore tsone tse, we have an obligation go bona gore di a diragala.
Some years ago tse re neng re le bana fa go buiwa ka Alma-Ata Declaration, re santse re bua ka dielo tsa radius ya bo 10 kilometres (km) to have accessed ditlamelo tsa botsogo, nako ya teng re ne re santse gongwe re bua ka a health post.

Dilo ka fa di fetogileng ka teng Mr Speaker, the health landscape has completely changed ka tsela e e leng gore gompieno ga re sa tlhola re ka bua ka health post.
Fa re bua ka accessing ditlamelo tsa botsogo, tsholofelo ke gore bogolo re bo re bua ka a primary hospital Mr Speaker.

As we speak, fa motho a le mo Lerala- Maunatlala, the nearest fa o ka akanya a primary hospital is 100 kilometres (km) or 50 km away.

So we have completely in that regard, fallen short of maitlamo a Alma-Ata declaration which were made so many years ago Mr Speaker.
Ke batla go bua gore, fa re tsaya kgang yone e, since 2019, ga ke ise ke ko ke eme mo Palamenteng ke tlhoke go e bua, gore there is so much deficit fa go buiwa ka tsa botsogo mo Lerala-Maunatlala.

I have said before that we need to make an audit mo maphateng ka go farologana, re bone fa e leng gore maiteko a a kanakana a re a dirileng re le lefatshe, re le ba botsogo, ke fa kae mo maphateng a a faologanyeng a e leng gore there is a serious deficit.
Mo Lephateng la Botsogo Mr Speaker, there is so much deficit mo Lerala-Maunatlala.

Ke one a ke neng ke re, gongwe ke e bue fela ke feta ka mafoko one ao ke re, dilo tse Mr Speaker, go ya kwa pele re bone gore re ka dira jang gore golo gongwe le bone ba tle baakanye.

Boammaaruri jo bo tshelang ke gore, bontsi jwa bone ke tlhola ke na le bone, I think se ba setseng ba se bua ke gore Jesu wee, Jesu wee.
Kgang e nngwe e ke batlang go bua ka yone ke ya decentralisation le CCP tse e leng gore Minister o di amile.

Ke batla go gwetlha bagarona gore re tshwanetse re tlhaloganye decentralisation e le tsela; a means to the end ya gore re ka dira jang go isa ditlamelo kwa bathong.

Kgang e, ke itse gore bontsi jwa rona fa gongwe before re akanya ka service delivery, re setse re akanya fela ka gore re batla village district kana sub district.

Yes, di botlhokwa jaaka ke bua gore they are a means to the end.
Ke ditsela tsa go isa ditlamelo kwa bathong.

Tsholofelo ke gore, all things being equal, fa e ne e kare gongwe ngwaga ono ya feta through the mill ya tla ya goroga, e bo e ka re le kwa pele kgaolo e tshwana ya Letswapo ya tla ya bona sengwe sa go nna jalo, kwa bofelong jwa letsatsi jaaka ke bua, ba kgaolo ele ba ka bona ditlamelo ka bogautshwanyane Mr Speaker.
I have made representation ka ke ntse ke bua le bagaetsho my colleagues ba tshwana le bo Honourable Mokgethi gore gone kwa dikgaolong, dilo di tshwana le certificate tsa dintsho, tsa matsalo, kana go ntse ga re batho pa palame ba ye Palapye, mme gongwe le one madi ba sena one Mr Speaker.

Ke tsholofelo yame ya gore dilo tse di ntseng jaana, fa re isa ditlamelo gone kwa dikgaolong jalo Mr Speaker, di tlaa thusa batho ba rona gore ba bone ditlamelo tsele ka bogautshwane.
Re ba kgaolola mesepele e e leng gore fa gongwe ba a bo ba le mo leshekereng la leshekere Mr Speaker.

Kana re bua ka dikgaolo tse e leng gore they are economically underdeveloped and deprived.

Jaanong ke dilo tse di botlhokwa gore fa re bua ka decentralisation, re e lebe ka tsela e e ntseng jalo gore kwa bofelong jwa letsatsi, ke go tlhofofaletsa morafe le Batswana gongwe le gongwe kwa ba leng teng gore ba bone ditlamelo ka bokhutshwanyane.
Mr Speaker, ke ne ke batla go bua ka kgang ya CCP, jaaka ke supile ke re lenaneo le jaaka bakaulengwe ba setse ba buile, tota le thiba diphatlha fa e leng gore fa gongwe re a bo re setse re emaema re le Mapalamente.

Ke batla go supa jaana, Minister o supile gore go ya kwa pele, kakanyo ke gore re tle re nne laser focused mo ditseleng tsa magae.

Ke dumelana 120 per cent le kakanyo eo Mr Speaker, gore a go nna jalo.
Jaaka ke sale ke buile, ke etle ke re se se botlhokwa ke gore go na le fa lenaneo le la CCP le setse le dirile investments, go na le dilo tse ba di dirileng mme ga di a felela.

Go botlhokwa gore re bone gore di a fela, fa di sena go fela, re bo re tsena mo ditseleng, re dira ditsela tsone tseo.

Gone fa, fa o utlwa ke re ke le iteela legofi, ke akantse dilo tse di sa felang kwa kgaolong ya me go tswa kwa bo Lecheng 29 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) go tsena ka bo Seolwane, Maunatlala Ratholo, go tsena Majwaneng.

Mantlo a Majwaneng a a sa felang ao re ya go a fetsa re bo re bona gore tsela pedi re tsaya efe Mr Speaker.

Ke le iteela legofi.

Fa re tsena mo internal roads, ke batla go bua gore ke le iteela legofi ka gore le ka thusa kwa kgaolong yame go kopanya metsana e tshwana bo Mosweu, Mokokwana, Seolwane which is only 7 km in between.
7 km yoo fa o ka tsamaya ka ene Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, o ya go ithaya o re o dule kwa Francistown go ya Tonota, e le only 7 km; o botlhoko.

Ke one a ke reng lenaneo le le ka tla la re thusa ka gore go ka tlhofofaletsa batho ba rona, le dikolotsana tse ba tsamayang ka tsone tsa tla tsa tsaya malatsi di ntse di le mo tseleng.

Ke one a ke reng lenaneo le ke dumelana le Minister ka fa a buang ka teng.
Gape ke supe jaana gore CCP e batho bagaetsho, kgakololo ke gore a re lebeng dikonteraka tsa magae tse di gone foo, gore di dire pharologanyo mo itsholelong ya gone foo.

Our youth kwa dikgaolong bagaetsho, ga ba na ditiro.

Kana ke paving ya tsela kana ke go dira tsela eng, ba ya go tsenya matsogo ba bo ba lala ba bone letogo la phaletšhe.

Fa Motswana a bone letogo la phaletšhe, re a bo re le bone re le six ka extended families tsa rona Mr Speaker.
Fa re bua ka decentralisation le CCP, boikarabelo jwa dikhansele tsa rona le the Local Authorities bo ntse bo ya kwa godimo.

Se sengwe se Minister a se supileng ke gore as we go on le yone Revenue Support Grant (RSG) e tlaa nna e ntse e fokodiwa bogolo jang kwa ditoropong gore ba kgone go leka go bona gore letseno ba le dira jang gore le oketsege ka ditsela tse di ntsi tse e leng gore re di buile Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker, di di ntsi tse ke ka di buang, mme ga ke batle go feta letsatsi leno ke sa bua ka kgang ya borukutlhi e re e amileng gone fa go buiwa ka kgang ya ba defence fa ba fiwa thebe yo ba mo neetsweng.

Ke re betsho, ke tlhola ke bua gore fa o tseela Motswana kgomo e le nngwefela, o a bo o tsere botshelo jwa Motswana.
Ke batla go bua ke khubame ke kopa Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Rre Mmusi ke re, bana bale ba Kgomokhumo a ba boe ba tsene mo Letswapo Mr Speaker ke a go kopa Honourable Minister, ka gore batho ba lela sa ga Ragele ka bogodu jwa dikgomo.

Gone maphakeleng one a, yo mongwe o ne a nteleditse a re ke gore batho ba rekisang meketšepe gongwe le gongwe mo Palapye, e re o reka ka P10 e bo e kete o rekile nama ya P500 gatwe ba tsaya kae nama e?
Le botsogo jwa batho fela bo nna mo diphatseng ka gore ga o itse gore nama e tlhatlhobilwe kae, e tswa kae.

Mr Speaker, boammaaruri ke gore barui ba a lela gore dikgomo tsa bone di tsamaya malatsi otlhe.

Rre Mmusi ke go ema nokeng mo selelong sa gago on resources gore gongwe o ne o ka tla wa oketsa bana ba gago ba siana le mebila ba bona gore botshelo jwa Batswana bo sireletsegile.

Mr Speaker, kgang ya digitisation ke batla go feta ka yone, ya maranyane e Rre Segokgo a buileng ka yone kgantele fa a bua.
Re a e lebogela from where I am sitting, e botlhokwa ka gore le kwa magaeng, kwa Dikgotleng, tsholofelo ke gore gongwe about 142 villages ba tlaa bona ditlamelo tsa go nna jalo.

Ke e leba jaana bakaulengwe gore e tlhofofaletsa an ordinary Motswana kwa gae dilo tse dintsi.
Bana ba ke sa tswang go bua ka bone, youth unemployment which is so glaring mo dikgaolong tsa rona, mo gongwe go tlaabo go sa tlhole go tlhokafala gore a le kwa Majwaneng, Ratholo, Moremi kana Maunatlala a emelele a ye Palapye jaaka bogologolo kana go ne gore le lekwalo fela la lekwalo, o emelele, o kibakibe o ye go le posa kwa Palapye.

Gompieno re solofela gore bana ba ka tla ba dirisa maranyane fa internet e tsene fa ba leng teng.
Ba dira applications tsa tla mo Gaborone kana tsa ya kwa di yang teng, mme tsa arabiwa ba ntse ba le koo Mr Speaker.

Sone se ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng go se akgolela Puso ya rona.

Mr Speaker, ke batla go tsena gape mo kgannyeng ya ditsha… MR MOSWAANE: Point of order.

Mr Speaker, o tlaa intshwarela fa e le gore ke phoso, mme ke akanya gore go bega mo television ya setšhaba gore batho ba ba rekisang mekwetjepe, ba belaelwa e le magodu, go senyetsa batho ba ba tlhokang ditiro le informal sector business.
Ke ne ke re gongwe Tona a e baakanye monate gore o ne a a fa e le sekai botoka, o a itse?

Ke rile ke a itshwara ke utlwa e mphisa go feta.

MR SPEAKER: I am sure Minister o utlwile.

MR MODUKANELE: Mr Speaker, ke utlwile, mme I think Honourable Member is quoting me out of context.

I never said that, ke rile ba ba buang ba botsa gore di tswa kae.

Ke batla gore fa e le gore for whatever reason Honourable Member might have understood me to say that, I never said that.
Ke rile, ba ba buang ba a botsa gore gatwe di ka bo di tswa kae Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, Minister, continue.

30 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR MODUKANELE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke tsena mo kgannyeng ya ditsha, ya lefatshe.

Mr Speaker, ga go na Mopalamente yo o buileng a sa supe matshwenyego one ao.
Ke na le tshepho gore e tlaare go yeng pele Mr Speaker, go nne le tlharabololo, re dire sotlhe se re ka se kgonang.

A e re mo nakong e re leng mo go yone, gongwe fa re kgonang teng, gore re ka dira pharologanyo ka bonako, re e dire.

Ke akanya thata Mr Speaker ka issues tsa bo transfers, gore fa go senang tota sepe se se kalo se se ka diang, gongwe re itlhaganelele dikgang tsa go nna jalo.
E rile Palamente e fetisa policy ya gore go bewe ditsha le fa go iseng go tsenngwe ditlamelo teng, re ne re na le tsholofelo e e tletseng gore bana ba rona ba tlaa bona ditsha ka bonako.

E kare ga go ise go nne le pharologanyo e e kalo e e bonalang.

Mr Speaker, ke kopa nako, fa bana ba gago ba ka kgona.

MR SPEAKER: Eight minutes.

MR MODUKANELE: Mr Speaker, ke batla go wela ka dikgang tse pedi tsa social programmes.
Mapalamente ba bangwe maabane ba buile thata ka kgang ya gore dikokeletso tsa bo P100 ga se sepe, go tshwana fela.

Nnyaa Mr Speaker, ke batla go farologana le kgang ya go nna jalo.

Boammaaruri ke gore maiteko fa a leng teng, a re nneng re dumela gore ke maiteko.

Re mo leshekereng la sepatšhe se se ngotlegileng, rotlhe ga go na ope yo o sa dumeleng gore se ngotlegile.

Fa se ngotlegile jalo, go bo go ntse go bonwa bonnyennyane jone joo, re bo re bo ngathogana.
Motswana a re, bana ba motho ba kgaogana tlhogwana ya ntsi, ke sone se re tshwanetseng go se dira Mr Speaker.

E seng go gogomosa batho maikutlo gore rona re ne re re, re tlaa tla ka P1 500.

P1, 500 o tshwanetse a tswe mo budget, where do you get it letseno le seyo, rotlhe re dumela gore letseno ga le yo Mr Speaker ka yone nako e. Ke batla go botsa gore mme bone fa ba ka bo ba re letseno le teng, P1 000 ba re ba ne ba ya go mo raise ka tsela e e ntseng jang Mr Speaker?
Ke batla gore nako e nngwe, re nne realistic, re bolelele batho boammaaruri.

Di… (Interruptions)…tse go tlholang gotwe re a di dira, ga di dire, ga di bonale, Mr Speaker, fa madi a seyo, a a bo a seyo.

Ke batla go go fa sekai Mr Speaker, only last year e rile fale go buiwa ka the famous paragraph 100, we never buried our heads in the sand re iphitlha.

Re ne ra bolela gore ga go na madi, mme e tlaare fa sengwe se ka bonala, we will honour that thing, and that was done.
Ke one a ke reng, a e reng fa gongwe re ntse re re tiro ya rona ke go ganetsa, re ganetse ka dipe ditsela e seng go ganetsa fela re bo re re rona re ka re, we should be able to.

Ke a tle ke re a credible opposition e tshwanetse gore fa e le gore e tla e re o ka bo o dirile jaana, they should offer an alternative.

That is why rona kwa Domkrag, le letsatsi leno, re re there is still no alternative to govern this country.

Re bua fela, we do not come up with an alternative fa re re re ka bo re dirile jaana.
The alternative should not just be a figure, it should be re ka bo re dirile jang, having sourced madi fa bonnanne.

That is a credible alternative HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR MODUKANELE: …tsa bo P3 000 le bo P1 500 le fa go buiwa.

Tsala ya me Hikuama, ke a itse gore wena o a bo o ka se ke wa tlhoka go ntlhasela.
Tla ke wele, ke leboga boeteledipele jwa Kgaolo ya Lerala-Maunatlala, ke akantse in particular Makhanselara, gore mo seemong se re tswang mo go sone in these past two years, ba ntse ba kikitetse le dikgaolwana tsa bone.

Ba rotloetsa batho gore a re ikenteng Mr Speaker, ba gakolola batho gore we are not out of the woods yet, ba ntse ba gakolola batho gore yang go tsaya boosters.
Ke batla go ba akgola, maiteko ao a tshwanetse re a akgole ka gore ba gaufi, without them ke ipotsa gore tota ke eng se re ka bong re se kgona.

Ke wele gape ka gore, ke batla go akgola Tautona Mr Speaker, gore mo diemong tse re neng re le mo go tsone tse di bokete, motho o kile a bua a re, true leadership ga e bonwe nako ya go le monate go nowa ditee.

Fa go le thata, ke gone fa a tshwanetseng go supa tsela.

MR KABLAY: Elucidation.

Thank Mr Speaker.


Tona, e rile kgantele a bua gore re na le mathata a madi, lefatshe ga le na madi.

Ke go botse gore ka le na le mathata a madi le le Goromente mme dikgwetlho di dintsi, a one o sa bone gore Goromente re leke gore re age dipatela tse di ka kgonang go thusa batho ka go sireletsa matshelo, gona le go aga police stations.

Ka madi ga a yo, o ne o sa tsene le rona mo pineng ya gore a re ageng dipatela, madi a police stations re a dirise kwa dipateleng.

Thank you sir.
Thank you sir.

MR MODUKANELE: Mr Speaker, through your sir, Chief Whip ke go lebogele kakgelo ya gago motho wetsho.

Ke supe jaana gore, tota kana fa re dira budget boammaaruri ke gore we are doing a balancing act, re leka to balance matlhoko a a farologaneng.
Kana go ntse jaana, o aga sepatela se ke dumalang gore se botlhokwa mo dikgaolong tse tsotlhe, mme kana se se boammaaruri gape ke gore le police stations go tshwana le jaaka re tlhoka police post thata mo lefelong le 31 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) tshwana la Lerala, fa ba seyo ba security o ya go bona fa gongwe, fa o ka ya kwa sepateleng ke efa e le sekai, Ramogapi can be my witness, fa o ka ya kwa sepateleng ka 3 a.m. ka weekend kwa Palapye o ya go bona dilo.

Re gobatsane kwa re gobatsanang teng, re felela kwa sepateleng.

Fa ba security ba le teng fa gongwe ba hema diemo tsa go nna jalo, re bo re sa golafatsane.
Ke sone se ke reng it is a balancing act Chief Whip, ke a itse gore wena o tshwana le nna o tlhoka sepatela thata kwa Letlhakeng.

Nte ke re Modimo fa o le teng, nako nngwe seemo se ka tokafala re bo re bona sepatela seo le ba sepodise ba ntse ba le teng gaufi foo, gore re tle re nne safe, re se ka ra fitlha le kwa sepatela fa gongwe.

Fa re adima puo ya batho ba atle ba re, prevention is better than cure.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation.


MR MODUKANELE: Mr Speaker, ke batla go wela ke lebogile Magosi, bakereki, Baruti, Makhanselara le bogogi jotlhejotlhe jwa Lerala-Maunatlala.

I am very very happy gore, e rile nako ya fa Tautona a re batho betsho a re emeng ka dinao re bone gore re hema botshelo jwa Motswana ka tsela e e ntseng jang, ba utlwa mme ba ema ka dinao.

Se Mr Speaker, to me that is a sign of true leadership, e seng e e reng fa gotwe go thata, e bo e le nako ya to look for faults.
No, that is not leadership e ke ka e atlang Mr Speaker.

Ke sone se ke reng ga gona ope yo o tlhoilweng, jaaka bangwe ba ne ba bua maabane ba re bone Goromente wa bone o tlaa tswa kae.

Ke bo ke batla go ipotsa gore, o tlaa tswa kae a ntse a le teng, a re rutile botlhe ba re leng mo Ntlong, a tsweletse a ntse a dira ditlhabololo kwa re leng teng, e le ene yo re buang le ene gompieno a reeditse Mr Speaker.

I so submit Mr Speaker, ke a leboga.


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gakere o ne o le mokoko o ganetse, o bua jaaka re bua.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!

)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Makwinja …Silence… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga ba yo.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Makwinja, I thought I had seen Honourable Moswaane.

(FRANCISTOWN WEST): MR MOSWAANE Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

Le nna ke fetole mo tsamaisong ya rona ya Palamente ya go lebagana le dikgang tsa Budget Speech.
Bagaetsho, ke leboge Tona, o rotse pego ya gagwe ka bokgoni jo a nang le jone.

Ke mo kope gore, motshola sepatšhe sa setšhaba ke motho yo o tshwanetseng go nna mokwata o thata.

Fa go padile kana fa go le thata, itshupe gore o motsholamadi wa Lefatshe la Botswana kana o tlhokometse madi a Lefatshe la Botswana as a Minister.
Ke ka go akgola, mme ke tlaa nama ke file dikainyana gore batho ba rona mo sepolotiking kamoso fela phakela fa o dule mo ministry a bo go tsena yo mongwe, ba bina pina e le nngwefela e bile ga ba ka ke ba lela le wena mo tirong e e molemo.

Jaanong ditebogo tse re di e leng tlhoko.

Mr Speaker, ka fa ke boneng ka teng go simologile kgang e e thata mo Palamenteng ya go rapela Modimo wa Disetwa, e e mpaledisang go tlhaloganya sentle gore re setšhaba se se ntseng jang, e re lopelang dilo tse e leng tsa rona.
O le Motswana, o le Mopalamente o lopela dilo tse di tshwanetseng Motswana, o bo o gogoba ka mangole.

Ke sone se ke reng fa gongwe jaanong, ga re sa rapela Modimo, re rapela batho le Medimo ya Disetwa.

Golo mo go tshwanetse gore go eme mo Palamenteng ya lefatshe la Botswana.

Budget e ke e bone ke e lebisitse Mr Speaker.

Ke lemogile gore ke budget ya makanyane e e nang le sekopamorokotso.
Projects tsa yone tsotlhe tse o di bonang di le mo teng fa, ke tse di itebagantseng le go ya go neelwa dikompone tsa bahumi, e bile e seng bahumi ba lefatshe leno fela, e le ba ba tswang kwa ntle.

Ke sone se ke reng ke tsa makanyane ka gore, corruption e e buiwang ke Matona e bile e sa fele, e a bontsha gore e na le tshireletsego mo Cabinet go bo e tsweletse e bonala e le corruption e e ntseng jaana.
Ka gore dilo di le dintsi jaaka o ne o kile wa utlwa Honourable Minister Mmusi le Honourable Minister Rakgare, ba ne ba lela thata ka toilets tsa P1 million, ba lela tota mo e bileng ka ba akgola gore kante motho o a kgona go bona gore go a senngwa.

Ke dilo tse kwa morago ba kgonang go itatola selelo seo, gore re ne re sa lele re ne re bua fela.

Ke sone se ke reng corruption e, go tshwanetse go bo go na le ka fa e leng ya rona (own) ka teng, ka fa re e lebeletseng ka teng.
Mma ke go fe sekai ka gore batho ba re corruption ga e yo, bangwe ba re corruption e teng.
Ke dumela gore corruption e teng mo Pusong ya rona mo nakong ya gompieno, e tsalwa thata e bile bontsintsi jwa yone fa o lebelela Development Budget ya P18 billion ke fa sekai fela ka palo eo, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore inflation ya prices go di oketsa fela gore motho a nne le sekopamorokotso mo tender, go diragala thata mo maphateng a Puso le mo 32 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) baeteledipeleng ba sepolotiki.
Dilo tse fa re batla go di emisa di ka ema phakela, ka gore re tlhola re bona batho ba ile kwa mafatsheng a mangwe ba ile go ithuta gore re ka lwantsha jang corruption le mathata a re nang le one.

O ka ipotsa gore a Botswana Government fela, e ka palelwa ke go lwantsha corruption ya tenders.

Nnyaa, a re bueng sengwe se se utlwalang.

Ke sone se ke reng budget e fa ke e lebeletse, re na le more than 3 years re beetse kwa thoko lenaneo la poverty alleviation kana eradication.
Batho bao ba mo tlaleng, ga ba bereke.

Ga ke bone o le mme jaaka o le Tona, budget ya gago e bo e nna tonatona fela e nna kana, gotlhelele go sena budget ya gender economic empowerment schemes.

Tse ke tsayang gore fa bomme ba galaletsa jaana, ba tshwanetse gore ba galaletse gore go tsile mme.

Ke na le botlhoko jwa gore for 3 years go tswa kwa go the then Minister Dorcus Makgato-Malesu, go ne ga nna le mathata a gore lenaneo la bomme le eme.

Ga tsena yo mongwe, lenaneo la ema.


Go na le mme gompieno ke Annah Mokgethi, lenaneo le eme le le thusang bomme.

Gompieno o kwa Finance, lenaneo la bomme ga le na madi.

Ga ke itse gore re ipata ka eng fa re lebeletse gore bomme mo lefatsheng ba na le dikgang tse di bokete tsa Gender Based Violence (GBV).

Nngwe ya tsone ke financial abuse e o ka iphitlhelang o le mo seemong sa gore monna kana moratiwa wa gago, ga a kgone go go thusa ka tse o di tlhokang.

Bomme ba humanegile mo nakong ya gompieno.


Budget e, ga e bue ka bone gotlhelele.

Budget e fa o e lebeletse, ga e supe se se nonneng ka employment creation.

Ke sone se ke reng ke Budget ya makanyane e e nang le sekopamorokotso.

Sekopamorokotso ke bua ka tsamaiso ya mpota kafa ke tlaa kopana le wena kwa pele.

Go teng go a diragala mo dipusong mo nakong ya gompieno.

Jaanong ke kope Tona gore a bothata jo bo lwantshiwe.

Kwa agriculture go na le backlog ya projects tsa LIMID tse di thusang bahumanegi.
It is a five years backlog.

Budget e, re e boka fela, mme ga e ntshe Motswana mo khumanegong.

E tsaya motho wa lefatshe le sele e mmaya kwa bohuming jwa dinaledi, wena o le Motswana o tswa mo tirong o sena le fa e le pension or gratuity e e ka go thusang mo botshelong jwa gago.

Budget e rraetsho, ke gone fa ke gananang le yone.

Bahumanegi ba lefatshe le, ke bone ba ba bereketseng lefatshe le.

Ke bone ba ba dirileng sengwe le sengwe mme ga ba a tshola sepe.
Mo Palamenteng le mo Pusong go lela leino le o bonang gore golo mo ke go sotla ka tšhaba e e re tlhophileng.

Jaanong dilo tse, re di lebeleleng.

Bagaetsho, ke tsena mo go tsa botsogo, ke rata go bua thata ka tsone.

Ke rata go akgola tšhaba ya Botswana mo go lwantsheng mogare o wa COVID-19.

Mogare o wa COVID-19 o ne o le bokete.

Ke kope, ke bo ke tlhagise tšhaba ya Botswana gore batho ba Modimo, a reyeng go tsaya vaccine.

A re tlogeleng ditori tse di serious.


A re yeng go tsaya vaccine tšhaba ya Botswana.

Go tla dipaka tse di thata tsa mariga tse go ka nnang ga tlhagoga mogare mongwe o re sa o solofelang, o o ka bakang dintsho go feta jaaka re ne re akanya.

Jaanong mosele wa pula o epiwa go sale gale batho betsho.

A reyeng go tsaya vaccine batho betsho.

Ke kope Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente gore re ne re tlhasetswe ke bolwetse jwa HIV/AIDS nako ya bogologolo ele.
Mo nakong ya gompieno e ntse e teng mo gare ga rona.

E rile fa segajaja se tlhasetse, re ne ra bona Puso e ikamanya le badiragatsi mo dikgaolong ka go farologana go tlhagisa tšhaba.

Ba rotloetsa setšhaba gore se nne le kitso ya bolwetse jwa HIV/AIDS.

Ke nako fa e le gore re sonaga madi, a re leseng go a sonaga, re tseyeng tshwetso ya go roma badiragatsi mo lefatsheng leno.

E bile e le a way of compensating them mo nakong ya two years e ba sokotseng ka yone ba sa bone le fa e le tiro.
A re batleng madi fa re ka a bonang teng to sponsor badiragatsi mo lefatsheng leno, ba ise molaetsa wa go ya go kenta batho.

Go tliwe ka maano a go phutha banana gore ba ye go kenta.

Bolwetse jo bo botlhoko mo go maswe, ke a bo itse, ke bo lwetse gabedi.

Le a itse gore le family ya me ke latlhegetswe ke ba ke ba ratang ka ntata ya bolwetse jo.

Ga ke dumele gore mongwe o ka tsaya chance a tlhoka go ntheetsa jaaka ke bua.
Ke sone se ke kopang gore bagaetsho, a reyeng go tsaya mokento, re sireletseng itsholelo e e setseng e le bokoa mo nakong ya gompieno.

Re koafaditswe thata ke bolwetse jwa COVID-19.

Re koafaditswe thata ke corruption ya madi a a ileng kwa mafatsheng a le billions and billions, a go senang ope yo o re bolelelang gore a tsamaile jang, a tlaa boa jang, how will it be accounted for.

Dilo tse le tsone di a tshwenya ka nako e re leng mo go yone.

Itsholelo ka bophara jwa yone e amegile ka ditsela tsotlhe.
A re tsenyeng mowa wa boipelego wa go ithotloetsa ka borona gore re ye go tsaya vaccine.

Bagaetsho, bolwetse jwa COVID-19 ga bo lekane le sepe, e bile bo bolaya mo nakong e e khutshwane.

Ka jalo, ke le kope le le tšhaba ya Botswana gore a re direng se se botlhokwa.

Selo se se botlhoko gape mo go tsa botsogo, re le ba Francistown, fa re robegile maoto ke gore North yotlhe, we book at Mahalapye.

O robaditswe mo Nyangabgwe two weeks, o emetse space kwa Mahalapye.

Ao!
Ao!

Batho 33 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) ba Modimo, a re tsweletse sentle go tsaya batho ba North sentle?

Nnyaa bagaetsho, a selo se se baakanngwe.

Tona a ko o eme ka dinao selo se se baakanngwe.

Tšhaba ya rona e swa e sokola mo go botlhoko.

Re kopa go kokomediwa marapo a a robegileng kwa Mahalapye.
Fa o tlhabilwe ke tshipi e e botlhoko, o emela ba Mahalapye to book your space for two weeks to one month gore o ye go thusiwa.

Re le toropokgolo ya Francistown, re gana nnyaa wa banyana.

Golo mo ke go re nyatsa, e bile ke go re tseela kwa tlase.

Go tlhoka go elwa tlhoko.

We are the second city of Francistown, re tshwanetse ra neelwa budget e e botoka.

toropokgolo ya Francistown.

Ra re le rona a tsewe jaaka batlhophi, ba ba dirang gore Puso e nne teng.
Selo se re a se belaela gore ga go tsamaye sentle lebaka le le leele.

Fa o se lebeletse o se tlhotlhomisa, o batla se se bakang bothata jo, BDP e a palelwa ke go tsamaisa botsogo, period!

Re tlaabo re ya kwa re batla dingaka, re batla baporofeti, BDP e a palelwa tota mo nakong ya gompieno.

Ga re na tsholofelo ka gore re swa jaaka dintsi mo nakong ya gompieno.

Jaanong dilo tse tsa re di lebelele re le babusi gore a mme di tsamaela toropokgolo ya Francistown sentle.
Ke le moemedi wa Francistown, ka re nnyaa a re lekeng bojotlhe jo re ka bo dirang.

Mo godimo ga moo in this Budget gape, re ntse re tsweletse gape re le ba toropokgolo ya Francistown re kopa bongaka jwa matlho kwa Serowe.

It is more than six months ga go na ngaka ya matlho kwa Serowe, Francistown e eme, Barowe le bone ba eme.

Ga go na thuso e ba e bonang.

Jaanong re le toropo ya Francistown, fa ba bangwe ba ise ba thusiwe, go raya gore rona re sule, mme ra re we are the second city of Francistown.
Selo se ke go supa gore party ya rona e e busang mo nakong ya gompieno, ga e ele toropokgolo ya Francistown tlhoko.

Selo se re tshwanetse re se lebelele, re se baakanye.

Ga re ka ke ra tsholwa ka tsamaiso e le tlaa re buisang dipuo tsa semorafe.

Jaanong se eteletse kwa pele gore kwa Bokalaka ga re ba sepe, batho ke ba ba kwa South.

Nnyaa mme ga go a nna jalo.

Mongwe o dira ka go palelwa le corruption ya gagwe.

A diemo tse di baakanngwe mo toropokgolo ya Francistown le rona re alafiwe.
Mo toropokgolo e ya bobedi, sepatela se re nang le sone se tsaya batho ba le 400.

Se tsaya batho go tswa kwa Serowe, Bobonong, North, kaekae e le referral hospital.

Mo go rayang gore ga re na sepatela mo Francistown, ke sa Batswana.

Re kopile for the past 15 years gore re batla sepatela sa bobedi mo Francistown se se itebagantseng le balwetse ba toropokgolo ya Francistown ba ba over 100, 000.

Re le tšhaba, re tshwanetse ra nna le sepatela sa rona se se re lebaganeng bagaetsho.
Selo se re a se kopa mme re bonwa se tsewa sepolotiki.

Matona ba tla ka ditsela tse di farologanyeng.

Ke biditse Honourable Dr Madigele a tla fa a le Tona, go ntse ga go nne botoka.

Honourable Minister Dikoloti o tsile o a itse gore sepatela sa rona sa Nyangabgwe is a butchery.

Ga go na sepatela teng.

Ke a itse gore go na le batho ba ba nonofileng teng, ba bongaka ba ba nang le dikitso.

Puso ya lefatshe leno e sa ba neele madi gore ba reke dipilisi le equipment.
Equipment di sale di tla ka ngwaga wa 1988 sepatela se bulwa.

Golo moo ke bosetlhogo mo tsa pereko Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Mo go Palamente re mo mathateng.

Department of Labour fa o senyegetswe ke tiro kgatlhanong le mohiri, selelo sa batho ba ba latlhegetsweng ga se na karabo e nonofileng, mme is over 55 years.

A re santse re ithuta go busa le mo nakong ya gompieno mabapi le tsa pereko?

South Africa ke e re bapile le yone e, fela fa o sa tseye babereki sentle, o tseelwa dikgato.
Batho betsho, babereki ba lefatshe la Botswana ba bereka mo dikomponeng tsa maChina le tsa merafe e mengwe ka one month contracts for more than seven years.

Dilo tse, under BDP di siame fela.

Ra re a mme la re go siame?

Bagaetsho, golo mo go supa kwa bofelelong gore naare fa mathata a sale a simolola re tsaya boipuso, mo ngwageng o mathata a ntse a re setse morago, go raya gore bokgoni jwa BDP bo phuphame e bile ga re na tsholofelo mo go jone.
Bagaetsho, go na le kgang e ke batlang gore… ke utlwile Tona a re go tlaa hirwa barutabana ba le 3,500.

This is a lie.

I will tell you why Mr Speaker; it is a blue lie.

Mo nakong e e fetileng ka 2017/2018, Tona yo o neng a le kwa Office of the President o ne a bega mo Palamenteng gore ba ya go hira barutabana ba le 10,000.

Fa re ya go ba tlhola gape re le kwa Public Accounts Committee (PAC) after two years, ba re ga ba na capacity ya go hira.
Ra re why not outsource, ba ne ba filwe P80 million wa go ya go hira gape teacher aids mme madi ao a ne a busediwa mo letloleng a sa dirisiwa a bo a feleletsa e le gore jaanong a abelwa go ya go duela overtimes tsa babereki.
Jaanong golo mo ka re fa re sa leng re tswa kwa go 1966 up until today, mathata a a supang gore a ne a diragalela batho ba santse ba ithuta go busa mme mo nakong ya gompieno a ntse a le teng, batho ba tshwere digarata tse di kanakana le maemo a a kanakana mme lefatshe le palelwa, go a supa gore tota mathata ga a yo mo individuals, mathata ke phathi e gotweng 34 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) BDP.


System ya yone ya go busa ga e re tshwanele re le Batswana mo nakong ya gompieno.

Dilo tse di batla gore re di lebeleleng fela thata ka tsamaiso ya gore re gogile tšhaba e mo nakong e e thata.

Jaanong ke ne ke akanya gore a re emiseng go ipoka.

A re emiseng go ipoka re le ba BDP.

Go ipoka ga go letlelesege mo ditsamaisong.

Ke eng le sa emele gore Batswana ba le boke?

Ke eng le sa emele gore batho ba re re a itumela, re leboga ka fa re le busang ka teng?
Le ipoka mo Palamenteng, Batswana bone ba ngomola pelo ba bolawa ke tlala ba le unemployed.

Batswana ba pharama ke tlala ka ntata ya go tlhoka go bereka.

Dilo tse Mr Speaker, di batla gore re di bue re di lebeletse re ntse re tlhaloganya gore ga re a tshwanela go lebelela gore o kare fa re bua jaana re tlhobosa ba bangwe ka lefufa.
Nnyaa, mathata a poverty, high rate of unemployment le a mangwe go tswa ka Tautona Sir Ketumile Masire, Dr Mogae, Dr Khama go tla go tsena jaana, ga a ise a rarabololwe (not solved).

Selo se se supa gore BDP e a palelwa.

Tota se se ka bong se diragala ke gore phathi e e ithole marapo mo Palamenteng, period.

Nna le ntshositse maloba, ke ne ke le solofetse le santse le na le Dr Matsheka kwa Finance, ka ke ne ke reeditse mokgwasa wa gagwe, le bo e bile le mo koba mo tirong.

Aa!
Aa!

Ke bo ke tlhoboga gore go padile.

Jaanong dilo tse le di eleng thoko fela gore re batla batho ba ba nang le mokwatla o o gagametseng mo go tseyeng ditshwetso.

Mr Speaker, mma ke boele mo kgaolong ya me ya Gerald, Francistown, Francistown West and Monarch.

Mo dikgalong tsa rona Mr Speaker, re lela thata ka gore re sa le ka Batswana re batla dipoloto tsa kgwebo, industrial, bonno le tse di farologaneng mme dipoloto dingwe di ne tsa baakanngwa ka 2012.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.


MR MOSWAANE: Tsena rraetsho.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke ne ke emetse Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente gore a mphe tetla… MR SPEAKER: Yes, Deputy Speaker.

MR MOATLHODI: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke leboga thata Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Francistown Bophirima, Rraetsho Moswaane.

Ke ikobile thata motlotlegi, ke ikobile moruti wa me, ke ikobile Sione gore gore ke go busetse kwa morago go sekaenyana.
O ne o bua ka thuto o bo o re, ‘this is a lie’ ka barutabana ba le 3,509 ba ba tshwanetseng gore ba hirwe, o bo o re “this is a lie.” Ke ne ke re ke ikobe fa pele ga gago Motlotlegi Rraetsho Moswaane, moruti wa me gore ka segarona ka Setswana, re itse boeteledipele bo tshwerwe ke mogolo gore a mafoko a a buiwang a mo boemong jwa motho yo motona, le ka seemo sa kereke e nna le wena ke itseng gore o obama teng gore… MR MOSWAANE: Nako e a tsamaya Morena, ke ne ke go file nako e khutshwane; ke go utlwile.
MR MOATLHODI: A mme o bona go siame rraetsho?

Fa o bona go sa siama, ke a go rapela a boele kwa morago, ke a go rapela.

Ga a go tshwanela.Ke lebogile Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR MOSWAANE: Ee, ke a go utlwa Honourable Moatlhodi mme fa ke lebelela almost 500 ya Batswana ba tshela under poverty and bolelelwa dilo tse di sa diragaleng, ke sone se ke tlileng ka gore ga re ka ke ra tshela ka maaka right through.
This has to stop somewhere and it is now that we should tell people to stop telling the people the lies; finish and klaar.

A maaka a fele fela re bueng gore se re a se dira re bo re bona maduo a sone within 12 months.

Batho ba solofeditswe ke Dr Mogae le Dr Khama gore ba tlaa bereka mme ga ba bereke.

Re tshele ka tsholofelo fela?

That is why ke e bitsa gore tsholofelo e ke maaka, finish and klaar.
Ga re ka ke ra tshela jalo re le tšhaba ya Botswana re ntse re utlwa gore madi a rinwa ka lesika, botsala le batswakwa.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane, clarification.

MR MOSWAANE: Ke ne ke mo file, sir.

OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MS MONNAKGOTLA): Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you Rre Motlotlegi Moswaane.

Ke go lebogele ka fa o begang ka teng le ka fa o buang pego ya madi ka teng.
Ke botse motlotlegi gore a ga gona mafoko a a botoka go nale “maaka” a o ka dirisang mo Ntlong e?

Ke a leboga.

MR MOSWAANE: Nnyaa, a ko o itidimalele tlhe mma.

I thought you are talking something tlhe mma.

You are wasting my time.

Thank you.

Mr Speaker, mma ke bue ka dikgang tse dingwe tse di botlhokwa.
Re le tšhaba ya Botswana, re agilwe ka structures tsa Palamente, Cabinet, Local Authority le dilo tsotlhe fela tse di tlhokafalang gore re nne tšhaba mme fa o tla bonang gore dilo tse dingwe fa ke go raya 35 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) ke re ke maaka ga di a siama, two years ago re ne re le mo Palamenteng ya lefatshe la Botswana re fetisa (approve) budget e e nang le 6 per cent ya makhanselara, mme madi a teng a tsene ka ga re itse.

Re a kopile re re re ya go a neela makhanselara, re a fetisa re re re ya go a neela makhanselara.

Re neetse badirelapuso 6 per cent wa bone re bo re nyelela ka 6 per cent wa makhanselara.
Dilo tseo ke tsone ditori tse di serious tse ke tsayang gore ga di amogelesege.

Jaanong ke di bitse ke re ke eng tsone dilo tsone tse?

If you can tell the Honourable Councillors gore re le tsenyeditse 6 per cent a bo a nyelela without an apology, dilo tse ke tsone tse ke reng ga ke di amogele gotlhelele.

Bagaetsho, go na le ba ba reng go buiwa ditori fela tse di serious.

Batho betsho, ke le Moswaane ke lapile e bile ke a bona gore dilo tse ga di tsamae sentle.
Re mo nakong ya gore budget ya lefatshe la Botswana e ka kgona go duela bagodi P1,500 e bo e bile ba ntshiwa botlhe mo Ipelegeng; P1,500 go bo gotwe ba tswe mo Ipelegeng.

Go a kgonagala fa e le gore corruption e ka emisiwa, fa e le gore go senya go ka emisiwa, fa e le gore Puso e e ka nonofela go bona gore batswakwa ga se bone ba neelwang tenders tse ba tsayang madi ba bo ba boela kwa mafatsheng a bone ka one.

Batho ba rona ba ka duelwa madi a a botoka.


Gompieno jaana dishopo tse ditona fa di bega, businesses tse ditona fa di ntsha financial reports, ba supa gore ba dira profits tsa millions and millions.

Ke one madi a re batlang gore a neelwe batho bao.

Ke one a re a batlang one ao, a le eletsang gore batswakwa ba hume ka one ba bo ba tsamaya ka one.

Budget ya P18 billion e a tsamaya e tswela kwa ntle ga lefatshe.
Part of this recurrent budget e e rekang dithoto e tlile go neelwa batho ba ba tswelelang ba boela kwa mafatsheng a bone.

Madi ao fa a ne a nna mo gae, invested mono a fenngwa ke bone, batho ba can be paid better.

Ke nako ya gore maVDC ba neelwe madi a a botoka, VDC le yone e ka neelwa P1,500 plus the sitting allowance, go pala eng?

Rakgare o ne a bua gone fa a re le amogela ma P141,000, go pala eng gore maVDC ba a bone?

A pala fela fa go buiwa ka VDC?

Nnyaa, dilo tse dingwe ga ke dumalane le tsone.


Destitute persons; batlhoki ba sokola go sokola ka P550 wa grocery, that was approved three years ago, ditlhwatlhwa di ile kwa godimo, yet we can go to the shops o bo o rekela dintsa tsa gago grocery ya P1,500.

O bo o bona gore motho yo mongwe ga a ka ke a tshwanelwa ke go amogela P1,500, mme ntsa e na le budget ya P1,500 mo lelwapeng.

So dilo tse a re di lebeleleng.

Banalebogole le bone a ko re direng se se tshwanetseng, re ba neeleng madi a a botoka.
Le bone ba tshwanelwa fela ke gore ba ka bo ba ntse ba bona P1,500, banalebogole ba e leng gore ke diritsa mo malwapeng a bone.

Ba tshwanetse gore ba bo ba bona P1,500.

Ga go na yo o ka nthayang a re o a bona kae, lona fa le batla madi le a tsaya kae?

Le bone ba tlaa a tsaya gone kwa le a tsayang teng.

Jaanong ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng ra di lebelela.

Ipelegeng le yone e tshwanetse go tswa fa e leng teng.

Re pepetleditse for many years ka Ipelegeng.


A Ipelegeng ba neelwe a minimum wage ba theogele eight hours a day, go berekwe.

Labour intensive programmes di tswelele, jaaka Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) e kopa, simple!

Gatwe madi a tlaa tsewa kae Honourable Modukanele, re a tsaya kwa o a tsayang teng, re ya go a tsaya gone koo.

Re a lata gone koo.

A timela fela kwa a leng teng fa e le gore a batlelwa batlhoki ba Botswana, nnyaa re a tsaya gone koo.
One a tenders tsa di million-million a a fenngwang ke ditsala, ke one a re a batlang gore re ye go duela batho ba rona ka one.

Ke na le mathata a matona on this budget, bana ba ba tsenang mo brigades le kwa technical colleges ba ba neelwang ma P300, it is so painful.

Brigades bogologolo di ne di siame, e tshwanang Tutume Brigade it was catering for batho ba Tutume Sub-District, ya Nswazwi catered for batho ba Nswazwi, ya Matsitama catered for batho ba Matsitama.
Gompieno brigade ya Nswazwi e tshwanetse go amogela ngwana a tswa kwa Gantsi.

Mme a bo a tswa all the way from Gantsi a bo a tla go nna mo Nswazwi, go bo gotwe o neelwa P300, a reke dijo ka P300.

Three hundred pula!

ngwana a reka dijo, a hirisa, nnyaa!

golo mo ke stories tse serious mo go maswe.

Ga ke dumalane le lona, gore le latole madi le ntse le itse go a dirisa, ga go a tshwanela.

Ke batla gore bana ba sekole, ba brigades a ba ko ba akanyediwe madi a a botoka.
Akanya fela gore Francistown College of Education e na le more than 300 ya bana ba ba tswang lefatshe lotlhe ba ba nnang outside school, gatwe ba hirise ka P300, ba bo ba reke dijo ka P300.

Ke sone se ke reng, golo mo jaanong kwa BDP go tšhaisitswe, e bile go lebetswe.

Go lebetswe, gatwe madi re a go a tsaya kae?

Re a go a tsaya kwa re tsayang a lona a salaries teng, re a go a tsaya kwa le tsayang allowances tsa Matona teng.
Re a go a tsaya kwa le tsayang allowances tsa bopalamente teng, re a tsaya gone koo.

Botswana Democratic Party a ko e itlhalose, e tlhalosetse Batswana gore gatwe mathata ke eng.

36 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Land servicing mo Francistown, re na le lefatshe that can service 40,000 plots.

Ke nako ya gore toropo ya Francistown e fiwe priority, lefatshe la Francistown be serviced.
Le lela ka gore ga le na mafatshe, dikgaolo tsotlhe tsa Botswana, rona ra re re ipela ka gore re na le lefatshe, re neeleng madi to service lefatshe and create employment, toropo e gole, batho ba bereke.

Ke dilo tse re lelang ka tsone, tse re tsayang gore di ka tla tsa re direla botoka mo botshelong jwa rona.

Ke tsaya gore dilo tse Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, banana, badiragatsi, batho botlhe ba a sokola.
Basadibagolo ba a sokola, P100 o le mo tsentseng, le fa gotwe lemme ga le bolae, bagaetsho akanyetsang bagolo, ba bereketse lefatshe le.

Akanyetsang bagolo.

Ke dumalana le Motlotlegi Rakgare fa a re madi a a teng.

Mme ke ne ke akantse gore he should donate kwa go bo kukuago, a supa gore madi a ga a na tiro le one, bagabone ba a tlhoka, ga a ise le fa e le P1 kwa teng.
Jaanong ke ne ke re Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, budget e I approve it ka meno a maleele ka lebaka la gore it does not cover dikgang tsa mohumanegi.

Batho ga ba bereke, ba bolawa ke tlala, ba a sokola.

Lehuma le nyanyaretse, batho ba a wa ka tlala mo toropong ya Francistown, tlala!

and yet we are sitting here re ntsha budget ya bahumi gotwe re ya go dira ditsela le ntse le itse gore le na le cuts mo teng, that is wrong.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke lebogele sebaka se o se nneetseng gore le nna ke latlhele tlhware legonyana mo tsibogong, ke tsibogela go ema nokeng kopo ya madi e re e beilweng pele ke Tona Mma Serame.
Motho wa mme, yo ke dumelang ka bojotlhe jotlhe gore o tlaa re utlwa, ka e bile a bidiwa onkutlwile, a re suteletsa megopolo e re bonang e ka thusa go tsutlaganya serwe se, se a re se beileng pele.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ntetle ke nopole mafoko mangwe ke a a mokwadi mongwe.

Mbidzi a ke ka nopola.

MR SPEAKER: Yes sir.


MR MOAGI: Mokwadi ke Shakespeare, a re, “ke ne ka lela ke sena ditlhako mme ka kgaotsa selelo fa ke bona monna yo o senang maoto.” Se e ne e le temogo ya gore, go le gantsi re na le tse dintsi tse re segofaditsweng ka tsone, mme ga se gantsi re di lebogela.

Re bo re batla tse re senang tsone, re tlogela tse re nang le tsone tse.

Jaanong jaaka re beilwe pele kgaogano ya madi jaana, ga e ke e bo e lekana gotlhe.
Ka e bile le yone tlala e tlaa nna e ntse e le teng.

Ke gore re bone gore re ka tsutlaganya jang.

Gape re lebelele tse re ka di dirisang, bogolo jang mo talents, dikitso tsa rona, re bone gore re ka atolosa jang tse di teng.
Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, Tona o ne a re tsamaisa loeto, bogolo thata jang ka gore o ne a re le lebeleleng mo a go bitsang basic principles tsa budget e. A tsamaya ka Mid-Term Review ya NDP 11, Lenaneo la Ditogamaano, a re tsenya mo Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan (ERTP), ra leba di State of the Nation Addresses (SONA) tse di fetileng, jaanong re mo budget ya gompieno.
Tsela e le nngwe fela kana mokwatla o le mongwe fela o o neng o le teng e ne e le gore go lebelelwe tsotlhe tse di teng tse di ka tsamaisang, tsa ba tsa godisa itsholelo ya rona.

A bua ka gore continuous growth in domestic production capacity, kgolo eo ya tse re ka di itirelang mo gae.

Ra ngotla tse di tswang kwa ntle, ra godisa tse re ka di isang kwa ntle, ra godisa go tlisa boradikgwebo le bodiragatsi ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ra fokotsa melao e e re itsang gore re ngoke kana re dire ditirelo mo gae, mme e bile re tsenye tsone tse di ka thusang gore re fokotse direpodi tse di mo tseleng, mo gotweng regulation and structural reforms tsa go dira thulaganyo e e ntseng jaana.

E bo e le gore re tla ka mananeo a e leng gore le gone mo go tsenya madi mo go Goromente, mo gotweng a sustainable funding of Government.
Dilo tse ke tse re tshwanetseng go itebaganya le tsone, re bone gore re ka thusa jang mo go tsutlaganyeng madi mo, gore re tle re kgone go fitlhelela Motswana mongwe le mongwe kwa gae.

E re ke le foo rra ke santse ke leboga Tona ka tse a re di beileng pele, ke dumedise le Batswana kwa gae, bogolo jang kwa Kgaolong ya gaetsho ya Ramotswa Constituency; ba le kwa Letsekela, Mogobane, Taung, le kwa Ramotswa, le masimo otlhe a bone.
Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ga go belaetsege gore ditiro di potlana, e bile ga di teng, ga di lekane batho ba botlhe ba ba mo lefatsheng.

Se re se humileng ke gore, thuto re na le yone, dikitso re na le tsone tse di neng di ntse di tla ka yone thuto e e anameng le lefatshe ya madi a mabotlana.
Ka jalo, ke ne ke solofela gore re ka tshwanelwa ke gore re lebelele talents tsele gore re ka di dirisa jang gore le fa ditiro di seyo, mme gone ditshono di teng, mo ka Sekgowa 37 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gotweng “jobs may be scarce, but there are abundant opportunities.” Jaanong re lebelele opportunities tse re bone gore mme re ka tsena fa kae, ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Ya ditiro yone ke solofela gore e tlaa re fa re debate Committee of Supply e e tlaa tlang mo dibekeng tse di tlang tse pedi tse, re bo re ka kgona go ala ditiro ka go farologana le kwa di tlaa tswang teng ditiro tseo ka go tlhomagana ga tsone.

Fa ke boela mo kgannyeng e ke ne ke re, kana opportunities di di ntsi.
Go ne go le maabane fela jaana re itemogela gore e rile ba Agriculture ba tswala borders gore horticultural products di se ka tsa tsena ka kwano, go ne ga dira gore dingwe tse re di tlhokang thata re di dirisa letsatsi le letsatsi, di tlhokafale; di tshwana le bo ditapole jaana.

Ke re, golo foo ke opportunity e e leng gore ba ba nang le lerato la horticulture, ba ka tsena mo go yone, ba dira ka bonatla mo tseleng e e ntseng jalo gore ba nonotshe market o wa horticulture wa ditapole.
E bile ba sa tshoswe ke gore a go na le big chain stores because re kgona gore jaanong opportunity e nngwe ke to develop horticultural market e jaanong e ka dirang gone foo, re rekisetsa Batswana bagarona ba ba bayang ditafole fa pele ga dishopo tse, ra tswa mo goreng nnyaa, ba dishopo tse ditona ga ba reke product kana produce tsa rona.

These are opportunities tse re buang ka tsone.


Kana e bile mo sekgoeng fa o lebelela lefoko le la gore re tshwanetse tota ra tswa mo goreng re poor; poor literally means passing over opportunities repeatedly.

Jaanong, a re tlogeleng go tlogela ditshono tse, re lebile fela mo goreng se se ka ntshetsang ke go bona tiro.

Fa go padile o sena go leka dingwaganyana kana eng jalo, bona gore jaanong o ka dirisa eng dithuto tsa gago go dira jalo ka gore ditshono tsone di nna di le teng ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ke tsamaela mo mafokong a gagwe, e ne ya re fela mo Page 2, Paragraph 6, a re itsise jalo gore P3 billion o tlaa mo neela public infrastructure.

Betsho, se se itumedisang ke gore dilo tse di tshwanetse tsa neelwa dikompone tsa ga rona mono Botswana, tse di nang le basimolodi le directors tsa tsone.
Se ke batlang gore se nne sustainable, se nne se le teng ka dinako tsotlhe, e se ka ya nna gore ke ne ka bona tironyana ele e nngwefela, ke gore a dikompone tse jaanong di itse gore re na le lekgotla le bidiwa Botswana Stock Exchange (BSE).

Jaanong e re fa ba ntse jalo, ba leke gore ba rekise diabe mo teng ga tsone dikompone tseo, gore dikompone tsa bone di tshele botshelo go feta yone konteraka e o tlaa bong o e bone eo ya letsatsi leo.
Ba a bo ba ntse e le gore ba na le batho ba e leng gore ba ka ba rotloetsa ka madi a bone, ka go reka diabe ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Golo moo go thusa gore le kompone e itshetele e le ya Setswana.

Le fa beng ba yone ba ba e simolotseng ba ka tsamaya kana ba dira tse dingwe tse ba tlaa bong ba batla go di dira, yone kompone e tlaabo e ntse e le teng, e itshetetse, e na le madi a e a dirileng ka stock exchange.
Ke gone jaaka e le gore we are sustaining the Citizen Economic Empowerment (CEE), re bo re itse gore jaanong re tsamaela kwa pele.

A boa gape a supa mo Page 12, Paragraph 38, implementation of programmes and projects.

A bua thata ka lengthy privatisation delays.

Ee, ke boammaaruri bagaetsho.


Kana the State-owned Enterprises (SOEs) ke tsone tse go hirilweng batho koo, go tliswa ditirelo tsa teng, mme fa e le gore jaanong re tlaabo re di tlogela fela e le gore ga di dire se di tshwanetseng gore se di dire, kante tse di sa direng sentle re di tlogela fela di tsamaya jalo, go ya go re raya gore jaanong re ntse re a senyegelwa ka gore di tsaya madi mo go Goromente.
Jaanong tota ke nako ya gore dilo tse di kgone gore di neelwe tshono ya gore di ikemele ka nosi, di kgone gore di ye go batla madi kwa makgotleng a tshwana le bo Stock Exchange jalo, di dire ditirelo tsa one.

Ka jalo, ka gore ba tlaabo ba itse gore ba dirisa madi a batho, there will be much more accountability ya go dira jalo, mme le bone ba tlaabo jaanong ba itshetela le go atolosa ditirelo tsa bone.
This is what we term “the private sector led economic growth.” Ka jalo, re solofela gore golo mo go ka re thusa mo ditseleng tse ntseng jalo.

Maphata a tshwana le bo Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) a a nang le subvention mo go Goromente, nnyaa, ke eng e tshwanetse gore Goromente e neele CEDA madi, CEDA e bo e boa e ya go neela batho madi?

A CEDA e tswe fela straight away e ye go tsaya madi kwa capital markets.

This is what we are talking about.


Goromente a tle a kgone go ithola mo go direng business because as far as I am concerned, Government has no business doing business.

Jaanong re tshwanetse re neele makgotla a a ikemetseng a, gore re tle re kgone jaanong private sector e re etelele pele ka go tsepama ga go dira ditirelo.

E nngwe e a neng a e bua mo Page 13, Paragraph 41, “the review of the Public Finance Management Act (PFMA)” ya 2011.
Betsho, golo mo go botlhokwa ka gore nna fa ke go lebile, kana this PFMA, re bua ka local authority, councils, public institutions, ee, le tsone di tshwanetse gore jaanong di simolole di nne le executive powers tse di ka kgonang gore di itirele 38 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) ditirelo, di kgone go ikokoanyetsa madi, di adime, di dire ditiro tse di ntseng jalo.
Gompieno re batla go aga malls kwa bo Ramotswa, re batla go dira dilo tse di farologaneng.

Ee, council ya rona e tshwanetse gore e bo e na le thulaganyo ya gore e ka ikadimela madi, ya tsena mo konterakeng le bangwe, ya tlhabolola, e sa baya mo goreng fa Goromente a ka koronya madi a e neela, e tlaa kgona gore e dire ditiro tse di ntseng jalo.

Golo moo go ka re thusa thata.


Jaanong ke solofela gore le bone e ka re kgabagare ba bo ba kgona to issue instruments tsa bonds jalo kwa stock exchange to raise madi a go nna jalo.

Ba ka dira ditiro tse di ntsi thata tse re lelang ka tsone gompieno, tse e leng gore ba tlaabo ba di itirela jaanong ba na le thata ya bone ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ke solofela gore thulaganyo ya decentralisation le yone e tlaa thusa thata gore dilo tse di tle teng, mme re kgone gore ditirelo re di iponne kwa dikgaolong tsa rona.

Go na le sengwe se se tshwenyang, mme gone fa o lebile ditirelo kwa magaeng, le gongwe le gongwe mo go Goromente, mo ke go bitsang ke re low income values.

Kana dilo tse di simolola di le dinnye, di bo di manifest, kgantele ke dilo tse ditona tse e leng gore di paledisa ditiro go direga.
Gompieno fa o ka lebelela mo ditirong tsa rona, re simolola ka half past seven.

Nnyaa mme o tlaa fitlhela ka bo quarter to eight, bo eight o’clock nnyaa batho ba santse ba dumedisana kwa ntle kwa, Batswana ba emetse ditirelo mo ditilong ba sale ba phaketse ka bo six o’clock.

Go bo go nniwa foo, motho fa a tsena a simolola a tshuba aircon, a baakanya, a tshuba computer, these are low income values tse e leng gore we need to deal with them.
Fa e re half past three fela batho e bile ba setse ba le kwa dikoloing, motho a tšhaisa ka half past four.

This thing manifesting into a habit e e leng gore jaanong e nna a way of life.

Jaanong o bo o fitlhela e le gore kgantele fa motho a tshwanetse gore a go thuse, ke gore e kare o go direla favour.

These are the issues that we need to deal with in order to move forward in our dispensation of services.

Gape re lebelela le wastage e e diragalang mo maphateng a rona.
Ee, re a bona o fitlhela go ntse gotwe melemo e senyegile kae, le kae, e mengwe e sa senyega e tlogetswe fela foo, mme le dipatela di sena melemo.

We need to deal with these things le batho ba e leng gore they are accountable gore re tle re kgone gore madi ao a kgone go re fitlhelela kwa a teng.

Ke tsamaela kwa go Ministry of Basic Education, e e allocated the second largest budget, Page 24, Paragraph 77.
Go boammaaruri ka gore fa e le gore re ikaeletse jaaka re ikaeletse mo manifesto wa rona wa 2019 BDP, wa knowledge-based economy, re tshwanetse ra lebelela ka fa e leng gore thulaganyo ya Basic Education Curriculum e ntse ka teng.

Re kgone go lebelela gore emerging skills le literacy requirements tse di teng tsa gompieno, re ya di incorporate mo curriculum eo.

Lore le re le obe go santse go le gale.


Re kgone go tsenya dithuto tse re batlang gore bana ba rona ba tsene mo go tsone, tsa entrepreneurship, economic, financial studies, le tse dingwe tsa sesha tse gompieno tse di more appealing to students gompieno jaana.

In fact, even more tsa vocational skills, re di simolole fela kwa tlase kwa ka gore ke dithuto tsa sennelaruri, tse di ka thusang gore banana ba rona ba tlhame ditiro ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Gape re bo re fokotsa tse e leng gore tota ga di sa tlhole di na le mosola mo go rona.

Re tshwanetse ra lebelela thuto e e leng gore what we call principle based education, e seng road learning.

Go tlhola re botswa ka bo gore mmaagwe Sezangakhona o ne a bidiwa mang, tota ga go re thuse ka sepe.

Jaanong a re tswe mo go tsone tseo, re tsamaele kwa lefatshe le yang teng fa e le gore we want to compete in the international arena.
Ke bo ke lebelela le dikole ka fa di dirileng ka teng mo constituency ya gaetsho.

Re a bona gore go ntse go thata, mme re a itse gore tota bothata gone ee was affected ke gone go sa tseneng sekole sentle, ka lockdowns tse di neng di le dintsinyana di le teng.
Ga go a direga sentle thata mo e leng gore ke selo se e leng gore rotlhe batsayakarolo, re tshwanetse go lebelela kgang e e ntseng jalo, re bo re nna fa fatshe rotlhe, jaaka maloba ke ne ke na le bagokgo ba dikole tsotlhe mo kgaolong, re ntse, re lebisisana mabaka a a ntseng jalo.

Re tle re baakanye ka gore ga ke dumele gore re tshwanetse go fitlha tlhogo, re tshwanetse go ema ka dinao, re bone gore re ka thusa jang dikole tse di ntseng jalo.
Le fa go ntse jalo, re itumele le ba ba itekileng, ba ne ba ntse ba le kwa tlasetlase jaanong ba dule kwa tlase.

O leba ba sekole se tshwana le sa Mahokwane Primary, se tswa kwa go 65 to 91 per cent.

Re akgole ene Principal Rre Molefhabangwe le team ya gagwe yotlhe le botlhe batsayakarolo, batsadi le ba education.

Bo Mojadife, bo Mogobane jalo se tswa kwa go bo 57 per cent to 95 per cent.

Ga ke na go di bua tsotlhe ke lebile nako… …Silence… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, you are lost.
Something has gone wrong.

We cannot hear you.

Honourable Moagi!

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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR MOAGI: Hello Mr Speaker, a ke ntse ke a utlwala?

MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, you were lost.

MR MOAGI: Okay sir, ke tsaya gore ke boetse jaanong.

Gape golo mo, re bo re nna re botsana gore tota mme go diragala jang, o bo o fitlhela e le gore this is a process, it is not an event.
Ke e e tlhakanelwang ke ba Education Office, batsadi, barutabana, baithuti le bogogi mo motseng gore re tle re bone gore thuto e ya kae.

Bagaetsho, discipline le yone ga re a tshwanelwa go e tlogela kwa morago.

Discipline ga e reye thupa fela kana eng, e raya dilo tse dintsi tse di agang ngwana, a itse gore fa ke sa dire se, ke tshwanetse gore ke se ka ka bona se.

Dilo tse di ntseng jalo, re tshwanetse go di ela tlhoko, ke gone fela go ka isang thuto ya rona kwa pele.

A re dire jalo.
A re dire jalo.

Ke supe gape gore e re le fa re ntse re tsamaela kwa pele, tsone tse di ka ba itumedisang; accommodation ya bone, go fokotsa class size le time offs jalo, re di tsenye mo teng.

Ke dilo tse barutabana le ba bangwe re ka di nnelang, ra kgona go di somarela ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Le dithuto tse dingwe tsa rona tsa Setswana, re se ka ra di beela kwa morago bagaetsho.
Dilo tse, batsadi ba a nyelela, mme di ya go felela di nyeletse le tsone, mme ke tsone tse bana ba rona ba ka tsogang ba itshetsa ka tsone ka gore gompieno batsadi ba rona ba itshetsa ka tsone, re a ba latela le rona ba bangwe.

Re baya dithobega, diphogwana, matsetse le boswagadi, dilo tseo tsotlhe re se ka ra tlhola re di tsaya gore ke dilo tse di duleng mo tseleng ka gore those are vocational skills, ga go na yo o ka di tsayang mo go wena, mme e bile o tlaa tsamaya ka tsone go ya go tsena kwa lebitleng.
Re batlisise (research) into the medicinal benefits tsa ditlhare tsa rona tsa Setswana tse di teng; bo moringa, serokolo, moretologa, sengaparile le mekgwapha.

Dilo tse a re di tsenyeng mo dikoleng tsa rona, re di rute bana ba rona gore re tle re kgone go itshetsa ka tsone.

E bile ke santse ke kopa gore a go okediwe budget ya research institutions.

Re tsenye research fela e e tseneletseng, e se ka ya tlhola e tsutlelwa madi as an afterthought.
Go nne le madi fela a dilo tse dintsi tse re ka di lebelelang tsa Setswana, ra di dira, ra di tsenya mo kgannyeng e fela jaaka e le gore we are exploring battery metals kwa mines tsa rona tse di tlaa tswang kwa Kgwakgwe le Otse tsa manganese.

Re a dira gape le bo biofuel le biodiesel jalo.

Ke tsone dilo tse ke batlang gore di tsenyediwe madi, baitseanape ba rona ba tle ba re neele, ba re nankolele go le gontsi ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ke tabogela mo link roads Mr Speaker, o tlaa bona gongwe le gongwe kwa go nang le project e tona mo lefatsheng la rona, o ya go fitlhela go na le masalela a mantsi a dilo tse di dirisiwang; a ke culvets le pipes di tlogetswe mo site.

Dilo tse di na le tiro e ntsi thata, fa o lebile metse ya rona ka fa re sotlegang ka teng, bogolo jang o lebile kwa Maun, gooraTauyagae, Sakutswane, Lesetlheng, Mojadife, Matlapekwe le Mogagabe.
Masimo a rona kwa re re reng batho ba ye koo, ba ye go ntsha dijo, mme o fitlhela e le gore batho ba Modimo, ba palelwa ke go tshela ka gore metshelakgabonyana ya bone e tserwe ke dipula.

Fa o lebelela gape ditsela tseo kana di kopanya metse ya rona.

Fa o tswa Ramotswa o ya kwa Otse, o feta ka bo Lesetlheng, Sakutswane, o tswa mo Ramotswa o ya Mogobane, bo Lephala, Matlapekwe, o tswa Otse o ya Mogobane le Rankoromane.

Dilo tse ga re ka ke ra di itlhokomolosa ra re khansele ya reng.
Ke ditsela, bogolo thata jang ka gore le tsone di na le clinics fa gare ga tsone.

Jaanong re le khansele, re ya jang kwa clinic eo, mme re sa kgone gore ditsela tsa teng re di baakanye.

Dilo tse ga di ka ke tsa re baya sentle.

Jaanong a ko re kopaneleng golo go le gongwefela, re le Goromente a le mongwefela.

Fa e le gore didirisiwa di kwa agriculture, roads kana kwa lephateng lefe, a re buisaneng, re kgone go dira ditsela tse, batho rona ba masimo ba kgone go tsamaya sentle, mme re kgone go ntsha dijo.
Re bo re fitlhela e le gore rotlhe re fitlhelela maikaelelo a re batlang go a fitlhelela a re thusang Batswana.

Ke sone se ke kopang thata gore re lebelele dikgang tse thata because re tshwanetse ra ithuta to pull and share our resources, mme e bile gape re dirise benggae (local contractors).

Batho ba na le go tsietsega ka this word ya local, Motlotlegi Tona o tlhalositse local maloba gore o raya ba ba foo.

Ga e ka ke ya re re re local, re bua ka Ramotswa, a bo re raya motho a tswa kwa Zwenshambe.
Nnyaa, le ene o ya go senyegelwa ke go tla a kolokotega a tla kwano, o ya go feta a batla accommodation, a batla dilo tse dintsi, cost e bo e ya kwa godimo.

Tsaya ba ba teng gone fa, ba e ka reng le fa o sa itumelele tiro, o ye go mmatla segautshwane, a kgone gore a tle go dira.

Ga re a re ditiro tse dingwe di se ka tsa bulegela bana ba bangwe lefatshe ka bophara, re raya fela gore tse dingwe tse di thusang ba ba mo gae, tse di seng madi mantsi, a re di direng gone gautshwane fa.
Se sengwe ke gore kana gore khansele e dire tiro, ke gore fela e bo e na le machine.

Borankonteraka ba rona, ba na le tools tse di ka adimiwang fela ka madi a a motlhofo a a ka kgonegang.

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Gape le fa madi a sa lekane project, project e ka tsewa ka phases.
Gompieno o a tswa o ema fale, next year fa o bone madi gape, o a tswa o ema fale go fitlhelela project e fela.

Dilo tse re a di tlhoka.

Metse e a gola, mo gotweng village extensions, go batlega ditsela.

E mengwe ga e tarred and paved, batho ba nna koo, ba batla taxis tse di yang koo.

Taxis ga di kgone go ya koo ka gore jaanong di a senyega mo ditseleng tse di ntseng jalo.

Fa ba lopa (charge) madi a ba tshwanetseng gore ba a lope, ba lebile tsela, re a ngongorega re le bapagami.
Jaanong dilo tse a re di tlhakaneleng bagaetsho, re tle re kgone go thusana rotlhe.

Borataxi le racombi ba se ka ba ngongorega, ditsela should be graded, dry grading fa e le gore ga di ise di goroge koo kana are not paved.

Golo mo go thusa gape gore ba ba palamang taxis, ba se ka ba folosiwa kgakala, e bo e le gore ba tlhaselwa ke batho jaaka dirukutlhi di le kana.

Ke tabogela mo go tsa lefatshe Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Re leboge ba ba Malete Land Board.


Ke ntse ke bua le bone thata malatsi otlhe gore ae, kana Palamente e tsere tshwetso ya dumalana le Tshutiso e e neng e re a lefatshe le abiwe le fa le ise le nne serviced lotlhe.

Jaanong re a itumela, re bona gore mo dibekeng tse di ntseng di feta tse, le yone beke e tota e, le ntse le aba plots fela tse dintsinyana, mme re santse re solofetse gore le tlaa tswelela le ntse le aba.
Go abilwe 28 plots kwa Mothibakwane, 105 plots kwa Magope, 800 plots di tlaabo di abiwa fa Seuwane fale, a further 200 hectares e e tlaa ntshang plots tse di boitshegang, e santse e buisanngwa kwa Mojadife le Mogobane kwa fa ba ka dumalana, ka gore ba duelana jang le beng ba plots tseo, go tlaa nna gape le tsone ditsha tse di tlaa abiwang tseo.
Golo mo re a go itumelela, re a go kgotlhatsa gore a go tsweleleng ka gore, gore re bo re ntse le ditsha fela jaana, batho ba na le dijara tse di kanakana ba sa neelwe ditsha le gone go tsala bohutsana.

Jaanong tswelelang fela jalo Malete Land Board, le nne le abe ditsha tseo, le dire jalo.
Ke boe ke rotloetse ba village trusts le development committees gore ba le neetsweng gore le tlhokomele ditamo tse re nang le tsone le matlotlo a mangwe a tlholego a re nang le one, ka tsweetswee, rulaganyang ka pele gore ablution facilities le eng jalojalo tse di tlhokafalang, di bewe gone foo.
Ke ne ke bona kwa tamong ya Mogobane gompieno e biditse thoto ya batho, ba tlile go tshameka ka dikepe gone koo, a matlo a boiteketso a nne teng koo, go bewe dikantini tse di tlaa olelang matlakala gore re se ka ra senya bontle jwa tikologo e e ntseng jalo.

Kgabagare kana jaaka le setse le phutlha madi le le ba VDC, go tlaabo go nna le yo o tlaabong a tla ka ditso, a le bolelela gore nnyaa, kana lefelo le le rileng, le rileng.

Fa le reeditse story sa gagwe le mo neela sengwe e ntse ke letseno mo go ene.
Dilo tse ke gone jaaka re itlhabolola, re tlhabolola the local economy, mme re thusa gore go nne jalo.

Ke kopa gore botlhe ba ba batlang ditirelo mo go tsone tse, a ba tsewe through a competitive bidding.

Go se ka ga neelwa Moagi fela ka gore ke ene a tlileng pele, nnyaa, bitsang botlhe, le bolelele batho gore ba ba batlang go tla go dira business ya gore, ka fa tamong ka fa, re a le laletsa, tlang ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ke tabogele kwa go tsa sepatela ke re, re a leboga thata kwa sepatela ka jaana re lebile gore sepatela sa Ga-Malete se tlaabo se neelwa ba Ga-Malete le ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi gore ba se tsamaise se tswa kwa Kerekeng ya Evangelical Lutheran Mission kwa Germany.

Tripartite team eo e comprise ba Ga Malete ba eteletswe pele ke Kgosi Mosadi Seboko, dikereke tse pedi tsa Lutere, Evangelical Lutheran Church In Botswana (ELCB) le LSBD.
Re itumelele seo, ke thulaganyo e e tlaa diregang mo kgweding e, e ya mafelelong.

Re boa re itumelela Goromente gore o santse a re neetse ditirelo tse a re thusa ka madi go tsamaisa sepatela.

A re potlakeleng gore critical care machines tsa bo dialysis le X-Rays, CT-Scan le Ultrasound, a di nne teng, di thuse to relief Princess Marina and referral hospitals.

Batho ba a mokagana, ba ya Marina ka bo 4 o’clock, golo mo go ngomola pelo.
A go batliweng madi mo budget e e tona ya Ministry of Health and Wellness, go tsamaelana le RESET Agenda gore re boloke matshelo a batho, these machines di nne teng.

Private medical practitioners and retired professionals le bone ba bitswe ba tle ba kgone go tsena fa.

Ke eng re kgona go dirisa private mortuaries gompieno, go ka pala eng gore retired professionals and private medical le bone re ba di dirise ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

A dilo tse di nne teng.


Ke itumelele gape gore mo nakong e ya botsogo, Tona o buile ka CCP funds tse re neng re setse re e baakanyeditse gore re tlaabo re e dirisa go atolosa metsi kwa bo Magope le Disana.

Go sale go nna 15 years le fa e le thothi ga e yo ka koo.

Re itumela thata Tona, a di tle di goroge kwa dikhanseleng tsa rona.
Re ne re setse re na le mealo re dumalane, metsi ao a tle a goroge kwa go ba Ga-Malete Le a a fetelang kwa Lobatse, a a ponche ka tsela e a neng a tshwanetse go poncha ka yone, re tle re kgone go siela ba ga Malete metsi 41 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Ke santse ke supa gore kwa bo agriculture, a ditsela tse di dirwe because fa e le gore re tshwanetse go neela Batswana dijo, re tshwanetse re dire ditsela tseo di dirilwe sentle di kgobotswe.

E bile kana ditsela tse ga di manganga, fa o e kgobotse gangwefela mo dikgweding tse pedi, e ya go tsamaega monate for lebaka le le rileng.

Tota golo foo a ko re go lebelele ka leitlho le le ntšhotšho.
Mr Speaker, re tshwanetse bogolo jang re lebile our creative industry, ba ba ne ba nna lebaka ba tswaletswe bana ba Modimo go sena sepe se se diragalang gore, re simolole go ba neela tsotlhe gore ba kgone go busetsa letseno la bone bana ba Batswana ba na le talente e tona ya bodiragatsi, a ke bope fela le bofe.

Re ba neele ditsompelo le ditshono kwa television (TV) and radios stations tsa rona, gore music wa bone o tshamekwe fela ka tsela e e rileng.
Ba ba dirang drama go dirwe jalo, ba ba dirang fashion di supiwe, ke gore sengwe le sengwe.

Re na le Makgotla a bo Ditlhaka, ke borre le bomme ba dira dipina tsa Setswana ka letlhaka either ke la tshipi kana la eng fela.

Ke tsone dilo tse e leng ngwao e re ikgantshang ka yone ya Selete.

Dilo tse di ka kgona go ba kokoanyetsa madi, ba duelwa ka bo Copyright Society of Botswana (COSBOTS) le mananeo a mangwe a a leng teng.
Tona Rakgare, re go rotloetse rra o tle go re tlhatlhelela le kwa ga Ramotswa, gore re ka dira eng go feta fa re dirang teng to boost, jaaka re ne re bona boosting dibolo ka bo Christmas le metshameko e yotlhe ya athletics, le tse dingwe tse dintsi tse di diragalang.

Golo mo go thusa letseno le le ntsi, ka gore fa batho ba le koo ba kokoane, ba ba ithekisetsang ba a ithekisetsa, ba ba ipapatsang ba a ipapatsa.

Golo mo go thusa local itsholelo, gape go kgona go tsamaya sentle ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Re bo re lebelela gape gore, dilo tse tsotlhe kana di gokaganngwa ke maranyane a segompieno.

Re leba projects tse ditona tse di ntseng di dirwa tsa ga Tona Segokgo, gore a ko o oketse thata lebelo le.

Dilo tse tsotlhe tsa bo go reng system e down, tse di dirang gore fa o re o ya go dira kwa Omang, transport, o tsaya dituelo kwa bankeng kana o ya go tsenya dikgomo tags kwa agriculture, o fitlhela go na le bothata jwa dilo tse.
A madi a o tlaa neelwang rra, a pompele mo selong se fela se budologe re kgone go itirela ditirelo.

Go ya go fokotsa mesuke le dilo tse dintsi tse di paledisang batho go dira tiro.

E bile gape tse re kgonang go di itirela re le kwa lwapeng, re tlaa kgona go di itirela.

Jaaka ya agriculture ya Animal Information and Traceability System (BAITS), e re tsenyang dithoto tsa rona in the system jalo.
Re tlaa fokotsa mosuke kwa diofising tseo, kana mosuke o fa o ntse o fokotsega o thusa le malwetse jaaka gotwe re katologane re reng, go bo raya gore jaanong re tsaya dilo ka bonako.

Fa o batla go move dikgomo tsa gago nako nngwe le nngwe, o tsoga bosigo o itirela permit o bo o feta o tsamaya.

Dilo tse di thusa economy mo go feteletseng, tota ke a go kopa rra gore this e-learning a ko e nne selo fela se se ka re thusang, ra se ka ra e tshaba.
Bagolo ba rona ba ne ba ntse ba sa itse cellphone, ra ba e ruta, ba e dirisa le go re feta gompieno.

Jaanong dilo tse di a kgonagala, let us do these things.

Banana bone ga ke bue ka gore, re ka tlhama ditiro tse dintsi mo go bone.

Le kwa diteemaneng, bo provenance diamond tracking, cloud computing, fibre and silver networks, data storage, ke tse ba tshamekang ka tsone letsatsi le letsatsi.
Ke ntse ke boelela gore Coding and Programming, di rutwe go tswa kwa tlase, ke sone se re tlaabong re atolosa thulaganyo ya rona ka sone.

Mr Speaker, kgetsi ya puo ga e nke e tlala, I therefore submit to support this budget with the aforementioned elements executed timeously.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): I thank you Honourable Speaker.
I would like to first of all in my contribution, show my support to the Honourable Minister and her 2022/23 budget.

Mr Speaker, the 2022/23 Budget Speech by Honourable Peggy Serame showed that the devastating effects of COVID-19 pandemic on our economy has slowed down our progress towards the achievement of the objectives set out in Vision 2036.
Nevertheless, the Budget Speech also highlighted a number of strategies that will be implemented to ensure that despite the lost time, the country will still be able to attain the objectives of Vision 2036.

Mr Speaker, the Budget Speech was special in the sense that for the first time, it was presented by an Honourable female Finance Minister, the first time this has happened since we have attained independence.
This is an important step towards achieving gender equality in our social, economic and political spheres.

As already highlighted by Honourable Serame in her speech, this should inspire women and young girls to have the courage to take leadership positions and contribute to the socio-economic development of Botswana.

42 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Mr Speaker, the Budget Speech comes at a time when the country enters into the final year of NDP 11.

Economic progress during NDP 11 was mainly retarded by the emergence of the COVID-19 pandemic.

However, the success of the country’s vaccination programme is expected to see high positive economic growth, which should be reflective in the 2021 period and the projections for 2022.
The rebound and growth is going to also help reduce unemployment, which rose in the past two years of the pandemic as the economic activities slowed down due to the restrictive measures that were needed to contain the spread of the deadly Coronavirus.

Mr Speaker, during NDP 11 our country has been experiencing persistent budget deficit.
The Budget Speech rightly emphasises the need to implement structural reforms in order to increase the growth rate, boost job creation, improve productivity and reduce poverty and inequality, as well as leading to economic diversification.

Mr Speaker, in line with tradition of consulting relevant stakeholders, our Government conducted a series of dialogues or Budget Pitsos in a spirit of promoting openness and inclusivity in the formulation of the National Budget.
The main findings from the aforementioned consultative meetings included first, the emphasis on the need to refocus public spending on national priorities and needs.

It was correctly observed that in the previous years, a large proportion of Government spending goes to the Recurrent Budget while a small portion is allocated to the Development Budget.

Most of the Recurrent Budget is channeled towards the payment of wages and salaries, grants and subventions to Local Authorities and state-owned enterprises.
Mr Speaker, as a listening Government, through the Ministry of Finance and Economic Developments, we have decided to implement suggestions from the Budget Pitso and implement the necessary adjustments to Government expenditure, which will entail a switch with the view to achieving a reasonable balance between Recurrent and Development Budget.

The emphasis coming out of the Budget Pitso on the need to continue to save Batswana from the COVID-19 pandemic is commendable.
We need to continue to vaccinate and our vaccination efforts and observance of COVID-19 protocols are important so as to contain the spread of the virus.

Government has responded to the call to prioritise the fight against COVID- 19 by allocating 18.7 per cent or P10.01 billion of the Recurrent Budget to the Ministry of Health and Wellness with P3.93 billion of the Development Budget earmarked for COVID-19 containment measures.
It is important to also thank Batswana for their resilience and adherence to COVID-19 protocols together with their rapid uptake of vaccines.

I wish to encourage all Batswana to continue with this and to take advantage of the booster shoots, which are available local.

The same gratitude is also extended to the business community and Botswana’s development partners who were very supportive to Government’s efforts to combat COVID-19.
Mr Speaker, the six key initiatives which the Budget intends to fund in order to cater for the needs of Batswana focus primarily on these following issues; (1) Maintenance of public infrastructure.
(2) Reserving the budget for CCP to the contractors in the immediate locality of that area, (3) On maintaining or for increasing the Budget allocation social welfare programmes, including increasing wages and subventions to social welfare programmes and the amounts that beneficiaries receive, (4) Funding the developments of sporting talent, (5) Allocating additional resources to support the digital transition and (6) Allowing or cushioning for the Budget deficits.
Among other things these initiatives will stimulates economies of local communities, create employment opportunities and cushion the vulnerable members of the society from poverty.

Notably, the reserving of most of the maintenance projects for citizen-owned companies supports the Citizen Economic Empowerment (CEE) Policy.
The outstanding performance of our athletes or the country’s athletes team at last year’s Olympic games shows that the country has abundance of sporting of talent which needs Government support.

Therefore, the channelling of funds to the development of sports is a timely call and it will help curb youth unemployment.

Moreover, sport has the ability to unify the country as observed last year when the country united to offer moral support to the country’s Olympics team.
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2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Delisting on the grey listing of Botswana by the Financial Action Taskforce (FATF) in October of 2021 and the expected removal of Botswana from the European Union (EU) blacklists are very important for Botswana because they will improve the ease of doing business in the country, thereby increasing the desirability of the country as a destination of choice for Foreign Direct Investment (FDI).
An increase in the flow of FDI will compliment Government’s efforts to create employment and stimulate growth.

This will create the multiplier effect in the sense that FDI will lead to other sectors of the economy also being empowered and will also lead to economic diversification.

Mr Speaker, the key sets or the national priorities and strategic objectives that were outline in the Mid- Term Review of NDP 11 included the ERTP and was complemented by the RESET Agenda.
The proposed Budget is premised on four key strategic priorities namely; saving Batswana the COVID-19 pandemic, infrastructure development, social welfare and service delivery reforms.

from With respect to saving Batswana from COVID-19, the work being done by the Ministry of Health and Wellness through the national deployment and vaccination plan with respect to the roll out of the vaccine should be praised.
The goal to vaccinate 80 per cent of the eligible population by the end of the first quarter of 2022 is on track and Botswana currently has the highest vaccination rate in Sub-Saharan Africa.

These achievements are key to the country’s economic recovery especially through the resurgence of the tourism and hospitality industry.

A revived tourism industry will create jobs and help lessen the burden of unemployment especially among the youth.
Mr Speaker, the establishment of a vaccine manufacturing plant in Botswana is a proactive move towards combating COVID-19 and will build a country’s capacity to fight pandemics through speedy production and availing of necessary vaccines.

It would also aid in the realisation of a knowledge-based economy.
Moreover, considering that we seek to diversify our revenue base, export of vaccines will offer the country an important source of revenue to further drive towards the achievements of the nation’s aspirations as espoused in Vision 2036, especially the transition from upper middle income to high-income status.

the upcoming financial year, the Development Budget has been increased by 12 per cent from the previous financial year’s Budget.
Intended investments in solar power generation bode well with Pillar 1 of Vision 2036 on environment sustainability considering that solar power is renewable.

Moreover, this allows us to take advantage of our prevailing weather conditions where the sun is available throughout the year.

These investments will reduce the cost of electricity in the country and further support growth.
Furthermore, the engagements of independent power producers in power generation will increase efficiencies and further lower electricity cost.

This will benefit both household and business consumers of electricity.

In terms of infrastructure development, I wish that going forward in the next Budgets, we can see at least 25 per cent of the total Budget being reserved for the Development Budget.

As you know, Budget is divided into the Recurrent and Development.
A cornerstone of aggressive economic development is a higher proportion of the Budget being retained for the Development Budget.

This creates an enabling environment for job creation.

It creates and enabling environment for economic diversification, economic growth coupled with human development.
Land management is one of the sectors which are heavily involved in infrastructure development as a land parcel or plot is a basic, fundamental, preliminary or primary infrastructure that is necessary for economic growth and economic diversification.

We have been having challenges in terms of provision of plots, predominantly residential plots and one of the reasons is that land is a finite a resource and we have to be careful in the way and manner in which we allocate plots.
We have to be mindful that we allocate plots for the present generation but we are holding land in trusts for future generations.

Thus in our attitude of posture towards land management, you always have to understand that we are holding land in trusts for future generations and we are unable to continue with unsustainable provision of plots.
We do admit and understand that there have been delays in plot allocation and we are doing a number of things or embarking on number initiatives to ensure that within the next 12 months, we can cater for allocation of at least 100, 000 residential plots.

infrastructure development forms Mr Speaker, the foundation for economic growth and human development in any country.
I am pleased to learn that in The challenges of land allocation have been due to the various factors in terms of the role of each factor in land allocation.

The first issue with land allocation or 44 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) challenge has been land acquisition.
Most settlements, villages, towns and cities… in order for the city, town or village to expand, we have to expand into land that is already allocated.

It is rare to find land outside settlements which has not been allocated.

So, we have to acquire land from those who already have been allocated it and predominantly is masimo or ploughing field holders.
Now we offer them rates, which we can afford as Government, which we have assessed, the survey has been fair, but usually in the order of increases of 10 fold or even 20 fold, we are short in what the land owners require as adequate compensation.

Thus we have to enter into lengthy negotiations with land owners in terms of how we can acquire their land.
The laws thus provide for us to compulsory acquire that land but as a compassionate and caring Government, we usually avoid going to the extent of compulsory acquisition but we do try to be as accommodating as we can.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR MZWINILA: I agree.

MR SPEAKER: Yes clarification.

MR MAJAGA: Point of clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker and thank you Honourable Minister.
This issue of compensation looking at the value of masimo a batho and other associated land which they own has been going on for some time.

Can you not make it a point that you put up a price which will be more or less the same with private sector and the freehold?
Meaning to say that there would not be exactly the same but at least you put something because it seems as bo Mogoditshane area and other villages expansion, we are caught by people now not letting their fields and other places to the Government because of the low prices but we have been talking about this issue for some years now.

Are you doing something as a ministry?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister.

MR MZWINILA: I thank you Honourable Member.

We are doing something about that.


We want to put parity, equity or equitability in terms of the value of land in tribal land and freehold land.

We want the value paid for both land regiments to be the same.

There are three land regiments; tribal land, state land and freehold land.
We are moving towards the finalisation of parity in terms of what you pay for on each of the land regiments but that has corresponding effects on the amount of money we would require to compensate people because the primary source of the waiting list is in the peri-urban areas around Gaborone and Francistown.

So, those are what are termed as tribal land areas.

So, we want to ensure that we move towards parity in terms of how we compensate people.
Correspondingly, we are going to require more funds and I am under the impression that this Honourable House will agree when we do ask for more funds to ensure that we are able to acquire land at market rates and this will reduce the delay in terms of the acquisition of land.

Another delay in terms of... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further clarification Minister.

MR MZWINILA: I agree.

DR TSHABANG: Point of clarification.

Through you Mr Speaker.

Thank you Honourable Minister.


Kgang yone ya acquisition of land from individuals, go na le kgang ya gore you have booked some pieces of land mo metseng and beng ba those pieces of land ba emetse lona, ba dumetse gore ba le rekisetse, mme you are not moving ahead to actually pay and take the land.
So, ba ntse fela for six or seven years ba le emetse ba sa itse gore are they going to finally get the payment ba golole the land, le didimetse fela and some of those instances ga re itse gore… how do react to that Minister?

Thank you.

MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga motlotlegi.

Ke tsaya gore go ntse jalo, go na le maphata a a ntseng a na le bothata kana kgwetlho ya madi.

Kgang ke gore makgotla a kabo ditsha a mangwe a ne a tlhaetswe ke madi a gore a duele batho.

Jaaka ke ne ke bua, re mo tsamaisong.


Fa le ka lebelela, re okeleditswe madi mo ngwageng o o tlang wa madi wa 2022/2023.

Bontlha bongwe jwa madi a ke gore re tle re neele makgotla a kabo ditsha madi gore ba tle ba kgone gore ba tswale dikgang tseo.

So, re mo tseleng ya gore re fedise dikgang tseo.

Re ntse re le reeditse batlotlegi.

Le ntse le ngongorega thata ka kgang e ya tiego ya gore go abiwe ditsha.

Re tsere tshwetso gore re ya go dira fela jaaka le laetse gore re dire, mme re ya go dira jalo.
Another delay in terms of provision of residential plots has been the technical expertise we require for base maps.

The first step of creating plots, whether the serviced or un-serviced plots, is to do what is known as a base map.

To do a base map, we need technical expertise or technical officers.
We have been having a shortage of technical officers and what we are going to do as a ministry, we are going to ensure that we rationalise our 45 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

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We are going to transfer technical officers from areas of low activity to areas of higher activity like the peri-urban areas.
That is where the waiting lists are mostly concentrated.

For example, we find areas like Mogoditshane having a waiting list of 100, 000 etcetera, etcetera.

So, we are going to rationalise our resources and take them where they are required.

That is another step.

Another issue which has been delaying in terms of provision of this necessary infrastructure has been layout plans.

After the base map is done, the next thing you have to do is a layout plan.

Layout plan is done by physical planners.


We need greater coordination between us and the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development.

We meet regularly.

We have agreed with the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development that we are going to coordinate this better.
We have taken steps, we have done procedures and guidelines of how we are going to ensure that the available resources, the available quantum of physical planners is appropriately used and utilised to ensure that layout plans come out faster.

Also, related to layout plans is in terms of our national development plans, in terms of regional development plans and locality development plans.

We are also going to fast-track those in the ministry to ensure that we carry out those processes expeditiously.
Another delay in terms of plot allocation has been our strategic environmental assessments or the issue of strategic environmental assessments.

We are in discussions with the responsible ministry and we have agreed with them that we are going to see how we can fast-track these sewers and we are going to see where they can be waived.
For example, in villages which are not that large in area and where we think that the sewer may not be that necessary, we are going to ask for exemptions and that will also fast-tract the process.

We will also require to do geotechnical investigations and for that it will require a budget and that is why I am saying that we are looking towards the greater allocation we have been given in the next financial year, to empower us to do all of these things.
What we are committed to do is to ensure that we do allocate as many plots as we can within the next financial year to reduce the waiting list significantly.

We are also looking at land board efficiency.

Land boards can be more efficient and they need to be more efficient.

I have talked to the land boards and I am going to continue talking to them.

I am going to instruct them that they need to be more efficient.
I am going to ensure that I meet them personally and regularly on a monthly basis, all of them and ensure that they do things more effectively and efficiently.

The amount of time they meet must be efficient.

If they require more time to meet, they must justify why they require more time to meet.

We do not have a problem in doubling the amount of time they require to meet, as long as they can justify what they need to do or what they are doing in that time.
I need to understand why some land boards the last time they allocated plots was 2010 or 2012.

That needs to be understood and they need to be held to account for that and need to show cause why they should not be declared as being incompetent.

Where we are at right now in terms of our commitment and assertiveness in addressing these delays in plot allocation, we are at the point that we are going to be very decisive, because the Honourable Members have communicated.
We do listen, we are very attentive to Honourable Members’ comments and we are going to be very decisive in how we address this issue of delays in plot allocation.

We are going to ensure that… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR MZWINILA: …as I said, I have already informed them or I am meeting them every month.

Every month I am going to require reports.

Those which are not performing, they will have to show cause as to why they should be… HONOURABLE Honourable Mzwinila.
MEMBER: Clarification MR MZWINILA: …and we will need to be very decisive.

MR SPEAKER: There is a request for clarification Honourable Mzwinila, and Kekgonegile.

from Mathoothe MR MZWINILA: Yes, I agree.

I do not know who was first Honourable Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Mathoothe.

MR MATHOOTHE: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke botse fela ka bokhutshwane Tona gore, fa o bua ka base map le layouts, a ga le akanye gore you should engage the private sector go le thusa gore le kgone go fefosa tiro ya lona?

Thank you.
Thank you.

46 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Mathoothe.

Ke belaela gore re a go dira jalo, re a go bona gore re ka tla ra fefosa jang kgang e. Jaaka ke tlhalositse, ke priority mo go rona, re a go leka ditiro le ditsela tsotlhe tsa gore re fefose tsela e re ntseng re dira dilo ka teng.

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

Go na le mafelo a mangwe, ga ke ka ke ka a bua ka leina, mme go na le mafelo a mangwe a re itemogetseng gore o ka re bodiredi bo bontsi teng, mme fa bodiredi bo le bontsi teng, mme tiro e sa tsamaelane kana e sa lekane le bodiredi, re a go fokotsa gone koo.

Ke raya gore re a go dira jalo.

MR KEKGONEGILE: Clarification.

Tanki Tona.


Tona, kana fa o bua ka productivity ga o leke gore botoka o e simolole mo ministry fela gone fa, gore fa o phutholola mosepele o tswela kgakala e bo e le gore fa ministry go botoka.

Batho ba Mababe ba na le beke ba le fa ba emetse lease to be signed go ntse gotwe kamoso!

kamoso!

Ga se gore o simolole fa pele Tona, o tlaa goroga kwa Maun, kwa bo Tawana Land Board thousand kilometres mme fa gone o dirile sengwe?

Tanki.
Tanki.

MR MZWINILA: Ke tseela gore ba Mababe ba nkwaletse mokwalo ba re ke name ke eme pele ka to sign lease; gongwe ga ba a go bolelela motlotlegi.

Ba nkwaletse mokwalo… MR KEKGONEGILE: Management plan not lease.

O eme pele ka management plan, not lease.

MR MZWINILA: Legale re tla e bua, gore re goroge kwa lease go batla re eme pele kana re feditse ka management plan.

Ke tsaya gore ke a go utlwa motlotlegi.

Ke utlwa matshwenyego a gago.

Re tlaa dira gore re dire dilo botoka.


Fa ke tswelela ka puisano ya me… MR LEUWE: Mr Speaker, thank you.

Ke re ke leboge Tona ka fa a buang ka teng, le ka fa a solofetsang ka teng, le ka fa ke mo itseng ka teng.

Jaanong letshogo la ga Leuwe ke gore, ke utlwa a bua ka to transfer technical officers a di isa kwa bo Mogoditshane gore, a ga se gore o a go boa a re busetsa mo kgannyeng ya centralisation gape, jaaka ke ne ke lela ka bo technical officers kwa bo Motokwe?
Fa e le gore o ya to transfer a lebile mabaka one ao, ka gore ke dumela gore fa o bona motho a ne a fudusetswa kwa Motokwe go ne go na le lebaka la gore ke eng a ne a isiwa kwa Motokwe.

Le gone koo we are suffering ka gore le transfers fela di a pala.

Thank you.
Thank you.

I think that in conclusion Honourable Speaker, I just wanted to point out in terms of land allocation, we are going to ensure that we toe the line in terms of ensuring that our productivity levels, efficiency and effectiveness are commensurate with what the Honourable Members require, request and expect from us.

We will ensure that we do that and we are committed to doing that and I will ensure that the whole ministry is committed to do that.

I thank you Honourable Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister.

MR LUCAS (BOBONONG): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Cameras tsa fa Bobonong o kare di poor, mme ke tlaa nna ke tshubile.

Mr Speaker, re bua jaana e le gore re remeletse thata mo matshegong a budget, ga re ise re tsene mo dikgannyeng tse di amang lephata le lephata, kana motse le motse.

Jaanong ke tlaa leka thata gore ke ikamanye le one matshego ao.
Mme e tlaa re ke tsamaela kwa bofelong e bo e le gone ke ka tsenang mo go tse di amang kgaolo, tota mme bontsi jwa tsone ke tla di ama ka nako e e tshwanetseng.

Se se ntseng se buiwa ke bakaulengwe le nna gongwe ke se ka ka salela kwa morago ke re, re akgole Mmaetsho Serame gore a bo a le Minister wa Madi le Ditlhabololo.

Ke mo akgola jaana ke mo akgolela katlego ya gagwe ka sebele, ka bonosi jwa gagwe.
Ke akgola the personal achievement e a e kgonneng go e fitlhelela, ka gore tota le fa e le a personal achievement ya maemo a a kwa godimo, kana kgang e tona e tshwanetse go nna gore a gone that personal achievement e tlaa thusa mo go tlhabololeng matshelo a batho ba lefatshe la Botswana?

Ke yone konokono ya kgang e. Ke re Mmaetsho Serame, tiro ke eo.

Ke wena wa ntlha Mme go nna Minister of Finance.

Le those who supported bo Mme Mma Monnakgotla le bone ke ba leboge.
Ba ne ba apere sentle thata, ba tshwanelwa ke mateise, ba bo ba nkgopotsa a a neng a rokwa ke Mma Boipuso, golo a go robetseng teng.

MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga motlotlegi.

Ke tseela gore ga re tle go tsena mo seemong sa gore re dira gore re ntshe batho kwa go nang le tiro teng kana kwa go tshwanetseng gore ba nne teng gore ba kgarametse tiro.

Ke tseela gore re a go tswelela ka thulaganyo eo.

Ke ne ke sa bue ka mafelo a a tshwanang le a gago motlotlegi.
Ke re kwa ntle ga the personal achievement ya ga Mme Mma Serame le mateise a mantle a a neng a aperwe ke bomme, tota kana Mme Mma Serame o tlile go tsamaisa mananeo a e ntseng e le a Domkrag.

A borre ba ba neng ba le nine ba ba tlileng pele ga gagwe ba neng ba ntse ba a tsamaisa, mme a sa kgone go tlhabolola mo go 47 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

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Ke yone konokono ya kgang ya me eo, gore kana fa re bua ka go aba madi, re bo re bua ka go tsamaisa itsholelo, tota se re tshwanetseng go se lebelala ke gore, mme tsamaiso eo ya itsholelo le ya go aba madi, a e tsamaisiwa ka tsela e e kgonang go ya gone kwa letlhoko le leng teng.

Ke yone kgang e tona.

A mme madi a jaaka re tlaabo re a aba jalo, a abiwa go lebilwe tota letlhoko le le tona gore le kwa kae?
Kgang ya me ka metlha ke gore, ga go lebege gore kabo ya rona ya madi e etle e itebaganye le kwa letlhoko le letona le le teng teng.

Ke se ke se lemogang ka metlha Mr Speaker.

Ke utlwa boTona ba bangwe ba lela thata, le ba party e e busang.

Ke ne ka tlhomogela pelo Motlotlegi Kablay, Motlotlegi Motaosane, nnyaa ba lela selelo kwa godimo thata ba re ditlhabololo tse ga di abiwe ka tekatekanyo, go lebega bone ba beilwe kwa mosing.
Ke dumalana le bone ka gore kgang e tona ke gore ditlhabololo di tshwanetse gore sa ntlha di lebelele gore gatwe mme letlhoko le le tona le kwa kae mo lefatsheng la Botswana.
Lehuma le kwa kae, fa re lebile mo re go bitsang re re ‘the poverty map,’ ke gore map wa rona fa re o tsaya jaana re le lefatshe, re tshwanetse ra tsaya gore nnyaa mme lehuma le ganeletse kwa, mme e re fa Budget e abiwa jaana, re bo re bona e le gore madi a a tlaa bong a abiwa jalo, a latela lehuma kwa le leng teng; kwa Kweneng West, Ngwaketse West, fela jalo le kwa Gantsi le Kgalagadi.

Ga go lebege Budget e e latela kwa lehuma le leng teng.
Motlotlegi Mma Serame o le motho wa mme, tumelo e le gore o ka nna le kutlwisiso e e botoka go na le bo rre ba ba nine ba ba fetileng, a ko e re fa o aba madi, o nne o lebelele gore totatota go baba fa kae, o ise madi kwa go babang teng, kwa go leng botlhoko teng, kwa letlhoko le tlopegetseng teng, go botlhokwa thata batho betsho.
E rile fa ke simolola Palamente, ka supa gore a re nneng le a Social Justice Commission, e e tlaa sekasekang gore mme ditlhabololo tsone a di abiwa go tsamaelana le letlhoko; bo Motlotlegi Leuwe, Motlotlegi Kablay le Motlotlegi Motaosane ba tshela metsi kgang eo ba re ga go tlhokagale, mme letsatsi leno ke ba ba mo selelong sa ga Ragele.

Ke itumela fa le lemogile.


Re tshwanetse gape ra lebelela, gongwe e bile go tlhokafala gore re dire an infrastructure audit mo lefatsheng la rona gore mme tota gone mafaratlhatlha a ditlhabololo a lebega a sokametse kae, o ka bua ka dipatela, ditsela, dikole, le stadium.

Go lebega go na le mafelo mangwe mo Botswana a e leng gore a tlopegelwa ke ditlhabololo go na le a mangwe.
The western part of the country, the very eastern part of the country, north west, di lebega di saletse kwa morago thata fa go tsena mo mafaratlhatlheng a ditlhabololo.

Go tlaa tlhokafala gore mme mafaratlhatlha a a abiwe ka go lekalekana go ise go tsenye batho ba bangwe dikakanyo tsa gore nnyaa golo fa jaanong o kare ba a kgethololwa, go kgetholola mabaka a a ka tswang a itsiwe ke ba ba busang.
Letlhoko la ditiro, ke bua kgang e ka metlha, ke tlaa e bua gompieno, gore letlhoko la ditiro le tlopegetse thata kwa dikgaolong tsa magae, mme e bile ga go lebege go na le tsela epe e e dirwang ya gore kwa dikgaolong tsa magae go nne le ditlhabololo tse e leng gore di ka dira gore ditiro di ye kwa dikgaolong tseo tsa magae.

Ke gore kwa magaeng fa o sa bereke Puso, shop ya maChina, butchery, filling station, nnyaa, ga go na ditiro dipe fela tse o ka buang ka tsone tse di tlhoafetseng.
Metse ya magae e tshwana Bobonong, Gobojango, Mathathane, Tutume le Sehithwa fela jalo, ga go na ditiro.

Go nna go na le thulaganyo ya gore re le lefatshe la Botswana, re a tswa re ya go kopa babeeletsi gore ba tle mo lefatsheng la rona ba tlhome ditiro.
Babeeletsi bao, ga ke itse gore a ba a bolelelwa gore go na le metse ya magae, ga ke tlhomamise sentle gore a ba a bolelelwa ka gore bontsi jwa bone fa e le gore ba a tla, ba felela mo ditoropong, mme jaanong kwa metseng ya magae o fitlhela e le gore nnyaa ga ba bonale gone koo.

Seemo se re tshwanetse ra se emela ka dinao gore metse ya magae le yone e nne le ditiro.
Letlhoko la ditiro le tlopegetse thata mo bananeng, re a lemoga gore le tlopegetse thata mo bananeng, mme fa re re re lebelela gore mme thulaganyo ke eng ya gore banana ba ba batlelwe ditiro kgotsa go dirwe thulaganyo ya gore ba tsene mo ditirong, nnyaa go lolea fela.

Fa gotwe go itikilwe, go tlaabo gotwe Youth Development Fund (YDF).
Fa o re o lebelela projects tsa YDF, mo mafelong a le mantsi, bontsi jwa tsone di ole, ga di sa tlhole di bereka, bana compete le bagolo, maChina, le bagwebi ba ba tlhoafetseng mo dilong tse e leng gore gongwe re ka bo re ne re rile tse re di beela fela gore e nne tsa banana.
Fa re lebelela metse e re ka e bitsang re re settlements, remote areas, nnyaa koo gone ke Ipegeleng fela, ga se metse e e leng gore le fa go tlhabololwa jalo, tlhabololo ya teng e tona koo, ke gore a re ise Ipelegeng, re oketseng dipalo tsa yone, ga go na sepe se o ka reng mme a re direng thulaganyo ya gore gongwe go nne le madirelo a a dirang dithoto tse di feletseng kwa motseng 48 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) o tshwana wa Lepokole gore gone koo bana ba teng e se ka ya nna ba ba berekang mo Ipelegeng fela, ba kgone go bereka mo firms tse di dirang dithoto tse di feletseng.

Seemo se se a tshwenya batho betsho, re tshwanetse ra se ela tlhoko ka metlha.

Re se ka ya re nako yotlhe fa re bua ka go aba madi, ya bo e le gore re ganeletse fela thata mo go reng mme jaanong Gross Domestic Product (GDP) ya lefatshe la Botswana e tsamaya fa kae.
GDP per capita ya lefatshe la Botswana ke yone e e dirang gore gompieno re bo re bidiwa an upper middle income country.

Go nna upper middle income country mme e le gore bangwe ba lefatshe la gago ba tshelela mo lehumeng, mo letlhokong le le kanakana la ditiro, go thusa eng?

Kana fa gotwe GDP per capita ya gompieno e re nang le yone, gatwe ke US$8,000.
Ke gore gatwe go tsewa madi otlhe a re nang le one go bo go dirwa division ka palo ya rona, go bo gotwe mme fa go kgaogantswe jaana, mongwe le mongwe e ne e ka re ka ngwaga a bo a kgona go tshwara madi a a kanaka US$8,000.

Jaanong sone seo se raya gore ba ba nang le madi a mantsintsi le ba ba senang sepe, it is divided go bo gotwe mme o kare ke gone mo e leng gore go supa gore o humile go le kae.
Gompieno re bua ka kgang e le nngwefela e re nnang re re re batla gore e re ka 2036, e e ratiwang ke Honourable Balopi le Honourable Kwape, ka 2036 re batla gore re bo re le a high income country.

Kana fa o le a high income country ga go reele gore o nyeleditse lehuma, kana letlhoko la ditiro.

Se se diragalang fela ke gore, go raya gore bahumi jaanong mo lefatsheng la Botswana ba okeditse madi a bone go menagane gantsintsi, jaanong fa o divide, go lebega e kete batho ba lefatshe la Botswana ba na le madi.
Ga re a tshwanela go tsamaisa itsholelo ka tsela e e ntseng jalo batho betsho.

Re tshwanetse ra nna le mowa wa gore itsholelo e tshwanetse go goroga kwa batho ba leng teng.

E tshwanetse gore e re fa re bua ka GDP per capita, re bo re lemoga gore mme go na le batho ba le ba ntsintsi ba ba sa ntseng ba tshelela mo lehumeng.

Batho ba lefatshe la Botswana jaaka re bua jaana ba ka tshwara 350,000 ba tshelela mo lehumeng.
Batho ba lefatshe la Botswana gompieno ba ba ka tshwarang palo ya 320,000 ga ba bereke mme GDP per capita yone e a gola, re bo re ikgantsha ka yone re re nnyaa mme mo GDP per capita, foo re dira fela sentle thata.

Ke re golo mo re tshwanetse ra go ela tlhoko ka gore mafatshe a a bidiwang gotwe upper middle income countries gompieno, fa o lebelela level ya bone ya unemployment, is under 10 per cent mme rona re tsamaya kwa go 26 per cent mme rotlhe re le upper middle income countries.
Gone mo re tshwanetse re go ele tlhoko Honourable Speaker.

Honourable Serame, ke kgang e e tshwanetseng gore o e tseye tsia fela thata.

Mafatshe a e leng gore re ka lekanngwa le one ka itsholelo, ka bokima jwa itsholelo le botona jwa yone, fa re bua ka levels of poverty, a kwa tlase fela thata.

Rona fa go buiwa ka levels of poverty re santse re le kwa godimo fela thata.

Re tshwanetse ra tshwenyega ka levels tsa inequality mo lefatsheng la Botswana.
Pharologanyo ya batho ba ba amogelang kwa tlase le ba ba amogelang kwa godimo, ba ba nang le madi le ba ba senang madi, pharologanyo ya teng e tona thata, e tlhabisa ditlhong.

Fa e le gore ga e go tlhabise ditlhong Motlotlegi Mma Serame, go raya gore mme e tlaabo e le gore o motho yo o letswalo le e keteng la senna.
E tshwanetse gore e go tlhabise ditlhong fa e le gore pharologanyo e e kanakana mo lefatsheng la rona, e bile re bokiwa ke mafatshe a mangwe gore mo dipharologanyong tsa bahumi le bahumanegi, fa e le Botswana yone e tsamaya kwa pele thata.

Ga se poko e e siameng, e bile e re diga seriti le mo mafatsheng a mangwe a re tshelang le one.

Dilo tse di ele tlhoko Motlotlegi Mma Serame.
Ela tlhoko Motlotlegi Mma Serame gore mo lefatsheng la Botswana kgotsa o bua ka Minister of Finance Rre Mogae, kgotsa o bua ka Minister of Finance Rre Gaolathe, Minister of Finance Rre Matambo, le ene Motlotlegi Dr Matsheka tota, go na le dilo tse e leng gore ba a di bua, ba setse ba di opela jaaka e kete ke pina e ba sa kgoneng go tswa mo go yone, mme e bile e ba lotletse ditlhaloganyo, ga ba kgone go bona gore nnyaa nteng pele re leke ditsela tse dingwe tsa go tsamaisa itsholelo tse e leng gore gongwe di ka re ungwela, di ka re nnela le maduo.
Selo sa ntlha se ke se lemogang jaanong se topegetse, ke pina ya gore private sector ke yone e e tshwanetseng go etelela pele, ga go na fa Goromente a tsenang teng.

Hei!
Hei!

Kgang eo e a buega batho ba Modimo, mme mafatshe a mangwe a a bokiwang ka tlhabologo e e tsweletseng ka bofefo jo bo rileng, o fitlhela private sector e le teng ee, ga re e gane, mme Puso le yone e na le fa e tsenang teng to boost business, le go tsena mo go yone business e kopane le the private sector gore kwa bofelong, ba kgone go oketsa ditiro mo lefatsheng la bone.

Dingwe tsa companies tse o fitlhelang di buiwa tsa lefatshe la China, ke tse Puso e nang le seabe se se tona thata mo go tsone.
Jaanong kwano go ithutilwe Sekgoa ke seo, ke utlwile le Lefoko a se bua, “Government has no business in business,” Hei!

Honourable Lefoko, ga go a lekana gore o bue jalo, moo ke pina fela.

Mafatshe 49 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) a a tlhwaafetseng, ba a itse gore mo private sector e e santseng e le kwa tlase thata, Puso e tshwanetse ya tsenya letsogo le le utlwalang mo go tsamaiseng itsholelo, mme le gone ga go rone... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Honourable Lucas, ikgalemele o debate sentle.

MR LUCAS: Ee, ke ne ke re Rre Lefoko, kana ba go rutile Sekgoa sa Government has no business in business, mo jaanong o opelang fela o kare nonyane ya papalagae e rutilwe good morning.
Nako le nako o a se bua, e nna e kete o kare ke yone tlhabologo jaanong, no!

Mafatshe a teng a gompieno re buang gore a dira sentle a Government e tsentseng letsogo, not private sector bogolo jang... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Bona, Government facilitates, it does not run the business for you.

O tlhaloganye, do not take me out of context.


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke sone se a buang ka sone, it is outdated… HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Murmurs)… MR LUCAS: Ke fela gore kgang yone e le e buang e, ya gore Government facilitates, Government must play an active part in the economy bogolo jang fa e le gore private sector e santse e le kwa tlase jaaka e le kwa tlase jaana.

Kana private sector ya rona e tshwanetse ya thusiwa go gola.
Ka go rialo, fa o batla go e thusa go gola, ga o ka ke wa e lebelela fela o bo o re nnyaa, mme e tlaa itsamaisa.

MR REATILE: Elucidation.

Honourable Lucas, gone o e tshwere sentle ka gore Goromente tota ene business o kgona to run it.

O a itse gore o sa tswa go dira metlholo ka kgwebo e e eteletsweng ke Honourable Moagi ya thekiso ya diteemane ya Okavango, kompone e e neng e rekisa diteemane kwa Dubai, a supa tota gore nnyaa, o ithutile go le gontsi.

Jaanong se o se buang ke sone seo.


Jaanong foo Goromente ga a facilitate, bolelela Moagi gore re bona bonatla jwa gagwe.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Okavango Diamond Company (ODC) is an independent company, tlogela go latlha Batswana.

MR REATILE: Ya Puso.

Ke ya Puso.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: It is run independently with a board.

MR LUCAS: Ke go utlwile sentle rraetsho.

Ke gore moDomkrag o a gakgamatsa tota.


In other situations, ba kgona gore e re e le Puso, ba bo ba tsena into partnership fela e e tlhwaafetseng le DeBeers ya diteemane, mme fa o ba raya o re nnyaa, mme go na le other sectors of the economy, ga le ka tsena mo partnership e e tlhwafetseng le private sector, gone foo o fitlhela ba tshikinya ditlhogo, o ipotsa gore naare batho ba, gatwe bothata jwa bone ke eng.
Eo ke e buile, o nkutlwile gore tlogela bo papalagae jwa gore Government has no business in business.

O tshwanetse wa itse gore Goromente o ka nna le seabe se se tseneletseng.

E nngwe ke yone ya to attract...(Interruptions)... Mme Serame e o tshwanetseng go e ela tlhoko.

Re utlwa gore go na le thulaganyo ya gore re nne re batle batho, go bo gotwe attracting FDI.

Ga re gane batho betsho, bo Rre Mogae ba kile ba tlhola ba siane pele ga foo...(Interruptions)...ba re ba batla FDI.
Go lebega e kete yone e, ga se yone fela e re ka bayang mo go yone.

Maloba ke ne ka fitlhela ke gakgametse thata e le gore gatwe re batla yone FDI, mme jaanong re ile go thibelela kwa Dubai.

Ke a bo ke ntse ke lebile fela gore one mathibelelo a Dubai, madi a a tsenngwang mo mathibelelong one a Dubai, a mme a bo a tlaa re tlela yone FDI?

A mme tota a tlaa re thusa gore firms tse di kwa mafatsheng ao, di tle kwano mo lefatsheng la Botswana?
Ke santse ke na le pelaelo ya me gore nnyaa, a re ko re lekeng gore fa re ka kgonang teng, re leke go godisa private sector le domestic investors, ba ba lebegang e kete bone ba gatetse pele ka go leka go dira dikgwebo.

Fa re bona yo o ka reng mo kgwebong o a tsipatsipa, o botokanyana, re leke go mo ema nokeng ka ditsela tsotlhe tse re ka di kgonang gore ene yoo tota, a kgone go godia kgwebo ya gagwe mme a hire batho.
Jaanong e ya go tlhola le siane, madi a le sianeng ka one, le re le ya go batla dikgwebo kwa ntle, madi ao, ke one a a neng a ka support domestic investors gore ba re direle ditiro kwano, mme e bile Puso le yone e na le seabe mo go ba thuseng le go ba ema nokeng gore ba eme ka dinao.

Jaanong ke re re e ele tlhoko yone eo ya attracting FDI.

Le fa o re o attract yone FDI ya teng, o bo o re o tsenya gore e thusa jang maikaelelo a mangwe a Puso a e leng Citizen Economic Empowerment, Hei!
Eo le yone e a buiwa kana.

E a buiwa, rona e bile re ne re e solofetse gore le molao wa teng, o tlaa tla o bua jalo gore ke Citizen Economic Empowerment law jaanong re utlwa gotwe gatwe jaanong o fetogile ga ke itse gore o bidiwa 50 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gotweng Rre Moagi, o kare mme ga o na citizen molao wa teng.
Gone moo o a bona fela gore go potologiwa kgang e e neng e tlhamaletse ya Citizen Economic Empowerment.

Fa o re o a lebelela mo Botswana, go utlwisa botlhoko.

Sectors fa o re o a di bala ka bongwe, ke gore o bala gore retail sector, ke raya ya bo Spar, Choppies, dishopo tse ditona, yone eo fela o re o a e lebelela, o fitlhela e le gore jaanong bontsi jwa batho ba teng, either ke batswakwa kgotsa ke Batswana ba ba saenneng dipampiri gore e nne Batswana.
Fa e le Motswana fela wa lekgorokgoro, ene wa sekei, ae, citizen economic empowerment o kare ga e mo tshwanele e bile e a mo rona.

Kwa retail sector, go reka le go rekisa, sa rona jaanong o fitlhela e le tsone bo Gobotswang Small General Dealer, Hikuama Small General Dealer, fa e le mo go tlhwaafetseng, mo go tona mo go tshwanang le bo...(Interruptions)... E nngwe ke the banking sector.

Hei!
Hei!

Batho ba dira madi ka dibanka mo lefatsheng la Botswana, mme jaaka ba dira madi jaana ka dibanka, o fitlhela o ipotsa gore naare ke eng go sena banka fela e gotweng wholly ke ya Batswana, le bone Batswana ba tle ba dire billions jaaka batho ba bangwe.

Rona nnyaa, fa go dirwa jalo, rona o kare re sector fela e e keteng o kare re e neeletswe, ke yone ya combis, taxis le buses.
Ke yone e o fitlhelang e kete foo ra dominate, mme fa o ntse o tsena mo transport, o tsena kwa go ba ba rwalang petrol kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, transport sector jaanong e a fetoga, ga e sa tlhole e nna ya Batswana.

Ya rona ke yone ya taxis.

Go tswa foo ya rona e tona thata le go gaisa ke yone ya informal sector, yone ya dikhukhu.

Tse di tlhwaafetseng ga re tsene mo teng, mme gone moo go supa gore re santse re sa tsamaise itsholelo ka tsela e e siameng batho betsho.
Re tshwanetse ra ikitaya ka thupana re le lefatshe re a bona gore sectors tse dintsi di mo diatleng tsa batswakwa, mme we must be aggressive, assisted by the Government gore re break into some of these sectors.
Go lebega e kete o kare gone moo go thata, rona re ba mahohoranyana fela, re ba mathothoranyana fela mme lefatshe e le la rona, diteemane e le tsa rona, di tshwanetse gore rotlhe di re sologele molemo re le Batswana, mme bontsi jwa madi a diteemane, ga a lebege e kete jaanong a tlhabolola matshelo a batho ba lefatshe la Botswana, mme moo re tshwanetse re go ele tlhoko.

Fa o re o a lebelela, o fitlhela e le gore re mo mathateng.
Le one madi a re ikaeletseng gore re tlaa nna re adima nako le nako, e bile re ipoka ka go adima malatsi a, nnyaa re ya go adima kwa World Bank, e bile le tshwanetse le ipaakanye, le itse gore re ntse re tlaa adima.

For an economy that is so structurally weak, ga o a tshwanela go itlwaetsa go adima, ke gore fela fa diteemane di sa rekiwe, itsholelo e a phuthama gone foo.
A re iketleleng go adima kgotsa re adime ka matsetseleko a go itse gore economy ya rona is structurally very weak, it can collapse at any time fa diteemane di sa tlhole di rekiwa.

Kgang eo re tshwanetse re e ele tlhoko batho betsho.

E nngwe ke ya go tlhola re kgethisa batho ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane, makgetho a tsena ka bontsintsi, services and user fees di dintsintsi, boturu jone bo oketsegile mo mabenkeleng, mme go kgethisiwa ba ba kwa tlase.
Rre Matsheka ke kile ka mmolelela kgang e, mme a nkaraba le gale.

Ke batla gore ke go e bolelele le wena Motlotlegi Serame, kgang ya gore go na le batho who have benefited immensely from this economy; millionaires, multimillionaires and billionaires of this country.

A re oketseng tax rate ya bone, ga e ka ke ya felela fela kwa go 25 per cent, it must go to about 35 per cent.
Fa o kgethisa a billionaires o mo kgethisa 35 per cent, o dira madi a mantsi a a fetang a di Value Added Tax (VAT) tse di tsewang mo Bobonong.

A re ko re kgethiseng batho ba o fela mo go utlwalang.

Rre Matsheka e ne ya re a nkaraba a re, kana ke gore fa o ba kgethisa jalo o ka nna wa ba koba ba bo ba sa tlhole ba dira ditiro mono.

Nnyaa, bontsi jwa bone ga se ba ba ka yang gope, ke gone mo Botswana fa ba kgonang go dira khumo teng, ka gore o fitlhela ba dira khumo ka they trade le Goromente.
Ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng ra di ela tlhoko, gore bahumi a ko re ba kgethiseng go tsholetsegilenyana.

The tax rate ya teng, e ye kwa godingwananyana gore batho ba le bone ba tle ba kgone gore ba thuso mo tsamaisong ya go tlhabolola matshelo a batho.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR LUCAS: Ba njetse nako bo Lefoko.

Go na le kgang ke ye ya social welfare arrangement.
Fa o re o a labelela ka fa batho ba rona ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane ba tsewang ka teng, o a bona fela gore nnyaa fa go na le le mokgwa le tumelo ya gore bone tota ga ba na tshwanelo ya go nna le seriti.

O tlaa utlwa Mopalamente fa, yo o amogelang madimadi a e bileng morena Rakgare a reng mangwe a one a tsewe, a bua gore lemme ga le bolaye.

Social welfare programme tsa rona, ke tsone tsa lemme ga le bolaye tota, mo gotweng mowa o se ka wa tlogela mmele.
O lale o hepiwanyana fela ka leshidishidinyana, 51 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gore mowa o se ka wa tlogela mmele.

Ke sone seo neelang batho social welfare provisions which are below the living... O ba neela ka bomo, e bile o ntse o itse gore nnyaa ga go a lakana.

Nna le Rre Kekgonegile re itse ka principle e nngwe, the principle of less eligibility.
Ke gore fa e le gore jaanong ga o bereke o batla welfare, go raya gore o bone madi a mannyennyane thata gore o tle o nne motivated go batla tiro.

Go raya gore ke yone e dirisiwang ke Domkrag, the principle of less eligibility.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: A ko le reetse.

MR LUCAS: Fa the cost of living ke P1 500 kgotsa P 2500 neela motho yo…(Interruptions)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)…re tla reetsa jang.

MR LUCAS: …gore a tle a kgone a emelele a ye go batla tiro.
Jaanong fa e le nkuku, e le mosadimogolo e le monnamoglo o bo o mo neela P600 o bo o re a emelele a ye go batla tiro, mo le tlaa ikhutsa le lona.

Ga re tshwanela go tsaya dikgang tsa rona ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Fa e le gore ra re re batla go thusa batho ba lefatshe la Botswana, lemme lone le le gotweng ga le bolaye le, a le nne such that le kgone to meet the cost of living.

Ba le bantsi fa ba sena go tsaya madi a Ipelegeng kwa ka garona ba a bitsa di eda di ndeza.
Ke gore madi a teng fa o a tsere ke gone jaanong selelo se nnang kwa godimo thata, ka gore ga o itse gore o duela ofe go sala ofe, ka madi a teng kwa tshimologong ga a lekana gore o itshetse.

Gone moo ke re Motlotlegi Serame, go lebelele motho wetsho ka gore ga go a lebana.

…(Inaudible)… o kare go dirwa ka bomo fela gore go nne le batho ba ba berekeng, mme ba amogela madi a bokgoba a a sa lekaneng the cost of living.

Batho ba teng ba bidiwa gotwe the working poor.


Maloba ke ne ke ne ke le fa main mall, ke tsamaya ke okomelanyana ke botsa gore naare golo fa Spar gatwe go amogelwa bokae, yo mongwe a re P1 500.

Lona ba ma China le amogela bokae, yo mongwe a re P1 200, kwa Choppies ke bokae P1 300 to P1 600.

Madi a fa o tshela mo toropong ya Gaborone kgotsa ya Francistown, ga a ka ke a go letla go tshela ka seriti, ga a ka ke gotlhelele madi ao.
E le gore accommodation e gotweng e cheap e duelwa P800, wena o amogela P1 200 e bile gape o tshwanetse go tshetsa bagalona ba ba sa berekeng, bone the 26 per cent.

Le a itse gore go na le mathata a mantsi a re a bonang mo lefatsheng la Botswana, a e leng gore…(Interruptions)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MR LUCAS: …(Inaudible)… ke gore fa o amogela P1 200 o nyetse o na le bana ba le babedi, gatwe o tshela jang kante.
O tshela jang cost of living e tsamaya kwa go bo P2 500, bana ba bone gatwe ba tshela jang.

Go tlaa nna go le kgotlhang e e tsweletseng mo malwapeng, ka gore ga gona letseno le le lekaneng.

Le fa o bereka, kgantele jaanong o a kgobiwa mo lwapeng gore o a bereka mme ga o tle ka sepe.

MR BOKO: Clarification.

Tota e bile fa o bua ka kgang ya kwa mmolong, re ne re le mmogo gakere fa re utlwa dikgang tse.
O se ka wa ema gone foo, o tlhalosetse Batswana gore madi a bokgoba a P1 200, Domkrag e a letleletse ka gore kwa Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) our Manifesto was very clear gore motho fa gotwe ga a amogele o ka amogediswa bokae.

O tlhalosetse Batswana gore mme se ke se se letleletsweng ka phathi ya ga Domkrag gore ba bo ba tshelela mo bokgobeng jo ba tshelelang mo go jo jwa dituelo.

Fa Ministers bangwe fa ba na le madi a e leng a cat allowance, mo ke party allowance mo ke eng.
Motswana e ne go na le yo amogelang P1 200, mme a hirisitse kwa Gaborone West.

Ke a leboga.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… MR LUCAS: Mogolwane wa Choppies o ne a bua gore, fa Puso e re re le amogedise madi a re re le a amogedisang a bo P1 200, re tlaa le amogedisa.

Fa e ka tsholetsa minimum wage ya dira gore le amogele P3 000 re ka dira jalo.

Bothata jo botona ke gore Puso e na thulaganyo ya minimum wage, e e below the cost of living.

Rona re bua ka living wage.


Motho fa o batla go mo fa seriti, o tshwanetse gore o mo neele madi a a ka itebatepanyang le the cost of living, boturu jwa botshelo.

Moo o fitlhela e le gore mo tsamaisong ya Puso ya Domkrag, ga se seemo se ba se letlelelang.

Bone fa go na le bahumi ba se kaenyana fela ba tshela sentle, ba siame.

Ba tlaa re kwa morago ba bo ba bua gore Gross Domestic Product (GDP) per capita ke US$12 000, go raya jaanong we are a higher income country.
Ga re dumele jalo, re dumela gore… (Interruption)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… 52 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) MR LUCAS: …ba lefatshe la gago ba tshela sentle.

Ke yone kgang e re e buang eo.

E tlaa re fa go tshwanetseng teng jaanong re bua ka chapters tse di farologanyeng, re tlaa tsenela mo botengnnyana.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR LUCAS: A le ka emisa go ntsena ganong.
Ke leboge ba European Union (EU), gore kwa Bobonong… (Interruptions)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member, your time is up.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)… MR MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): Thank you Mr Speaker, ke a kopa batlotlegi ke latlhele a mabedi.

Mr Speaker, jaaka bangwe Mapalamente a lefatshe la Botswana ba setse ba akgetse le nna ke eme ke supe fa ke ema nokeng this budget ya ga Motlotlegi Serame.
Ke e ema nokeng gore re e buisane e fete, ditirelo tsa lefatshe tsa Botswana di ye pele.

Mr Speaker, ke simolole ke re kana jaaka re a bo re dira budget e le tsamaiso ya lefatshe lengwe le lengwe, re tshwanetse gore budget e re e lebelele gore re dira madi kana re ntsha madi a setšhaba, a a yang go nna madi a e leng gore there is value for money, there is employment creation, there is development in the Recurrent Budget.
Mr Speaker, ke tshwanetse ka supa gore dilo tseo ke tsone konokono tse re tshwanetseng gore re le Batlotlegi Mapalamente re di lebelele, segolo jang mo dinakong tse tse di thata tse tsa COVID-19, re itse gore itsholelo ya lefatshe le ya mafatshefatshe e ntse e sa tsamaye sentle kana e le kwa tlase to meet all these demands tse e leng tsa development le itsholelo.

Ke dingwe dilo tse re tshwanetseng gore re di lebelele mo go tseneletseng.
Mr Speaker, budget e ya ga mme re mo akgola jaaka re bo akgola rotlhe jaana, we have hope thata mo go yone.

Gore e re go le mo dinakong tse di thata jaana, re bone go na le nngwe phetogo.

Ke ntse ke utlwa Batlotlegi Mapalamente ba supa fa e le Budget ya mme.

Go nnile le her predecessors ba ka nna nine or so.


Ka e le motho wa mme, go tshwanetse go supafala ka Budget e. Ke tsone dilo tse e kareng go tswa foo ra mo akgola further re re, o ne wa fetisa Budget e e neng ya thusa lefatshe la Botswana mo dinakong tse di thata, gape o le mme wa ntlha go dira jalo.

Then re ka dumalana, e bile re ka nna le support e e ntsi.

Fa e ka tla fela Budget e sena any attraction mo matshelong a Batswana le mo lefatsheng, e tlaabo e tshwana le tse dingwe tse di neng di feta.
Re bo re re ka mme o tshwara thipa ka fa bogaleng, o e dirile jang.

Fa e ka tla jaaka re bona e beilwe pele e na le botshelo, e na le ditiro le sengwe le sengwe se Batswana ba se tlhokang, re tlaabo re na le wena mmaetsho re go akgola go yeng pele.

Ke tshwanetse go itumelela Budget e, e le sa konokono gore Tona wa Madi Mme Serame o bone go tshwanela gore supplementaries would not be tolerated ka mabaka.

Go lebega go na le supplementaries tse e leng gore bangwe mo maphateng ba ne ba sa dire tiro ya bone.
Ba sa budget sentle, ba sa bereka sentle.

Ba bangwe madi a sa berekisiwa sentle.

That is a first step mo senior Government officials ba e leng gore they are entitled go tsamaisa madi le budget.

Gone moo go tlaa dira gore batho ba le bantsi especially mo maphateng, do the turnaround strategies.

Ba se ka ba re mo dikgweding tse di tshwanang le tsa January and February tse gantsi o fitlhelang go na le bolwetse jwa gore madi a fedile, ba tla go dira supplementaries.
Sone seo ke tshwanetse go se akgola jaaka o se supile.

Supplementaries e tlaa nna dilo tsa maloba.

Ke mo go supang some step ahead and the bold decision for a Minister wa sebopego sa gago wa Madi.

Ke ntse ke tsweletse Mr Speaker, ke tlhalose gore ga re ka ke ra bua ka madi a makgetho fela ka Botswana Unified Revenue Service (BURS).

Those other stream revenue generating entities di tshwanetse go nna on board.

E re re bua ka BURS, re bo re bua ka sectors jaaka mining.
Re itse gore ke one of the contributors le tourism.

Re nne le agriculture sector jaaka pele le morago ga boipuso, re ne re bona leading them.

Re tshwanetse go bona re le Mapalamente re kanokisiwa ka dielo le some percentage gore agriculture this time around e dirile se, le se mo itsholelong.

E seng fela BURS, e le gore at the end of the day o tlaa fitlhela VAT, a bo a nna mantsi.

Re tshwanetse gore other players re bone contributing fairly in this basket ya Budget.
Tsone tseo di tlaa diragadiwa ka go bona other streams tse e leng gore we can benchmark mo mangweng mafatshe a re a bonang like Singapore and Mauritius jalo.

O tlaa fitlhela ba ne ba tla ka mengwe metlhale like connection le other companies tse di tona tse Goromente a kopanetseng go di tsamaisa le private sector.

Ga ba na mines and tourism mme ba kgona to generate a fairly income e e tsenang mo Government coffers e e felelang e dira ditlhabololo.
Ke tsone dilo tse re tshwanetseng go di lebelela Honourable Minister of Finance, to boost this Budget.

So that in turn, e tlaa dira dikeletso tsa rona 53 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

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Re na le bothata jo bo tshwanang mo dikgaolong tsa rona.

Those things maybe as I challenge you, in the coming budget ya 23/24 this must be clearly stated.
Gore apart from tourism, mining and BURS revenue collectors, there are these additional ones as metswedi e e yang go increase our basket in revenue collection.

Fa o ka dira jalo Honourable Minister, re tlaabo re ya golo gongwe.

Unlike gore since 1966 re bo re ntse re lebeletse three streams tse re itseng gore Budget e re tsamaisang lefatshe ka yone, Development and Recurrent, e a bo e tswa mo go tsone.
Re tlaa nna le bothata jwa a serious outcry e re leng mo go yone bontsi jwa rona ya ditlhabololo because letseno le tlaabo le sa nne lone.

Gape it is time to revisit some of the fees di nne forcefully go sa lowe.

Mo Botswana fa o sa dumalane le batho kana o enforce sengwe, gatwe maitseo.

Go bo gotwe o lwa le batho, ga o a siama.

P5 ba clinics, fa o ya kwa private clinic o sena medical aid ke P200, go tswa foo o ya go ithekela dipilisi le melemo.
P5, P10, re a itse batho ba sebopego sa rona go na le categories tse di rileng, go na le ba ba thusiwang ke bangwe.

Dilo tseo di tshwanetse di bonale, batho ba duele some small fees mo ditirelong.

Maloba ke ne ke gakgamala ke reka molemo wa matlho P131, mme ke kile ka o tsaya free kwa clinic matlho a ntshwenya ke le kwa Gweta.

Ke bo ke bona gore madi a mantsi mo ditirelong, we are doing a lot.

Fa e ka bo e le gore we are meeting Government ka maP10, P20, batho ba ya go tlwaela.
Go bo go raya gore income generation e nna teng.

That is how other countries do tse e leng gore itsholelo ya bone e kwa tlase go feta le rona.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Elucidation.

Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you very much Honourable Majaga.

O santse o le mo go yeo, ditirelo tse di duelelwang jaaka madi kwa clinic, school fees mo dikoleng, o emphasise le kgang ya gore go tshwanetse go tlhwaafalelwa gore a tsewe.
Gakere o fitlhela kwa sekoleng school fees e le P300 ka ngwaga mme still one ao re kgona go letlelelwa go tsena sekole re sa a duele.

Ke a leboga Honourable Member.

MR MAJAGA: Thank you so much Honourable Healy.

Tota go botlhokwa mokaulengwe gore dilo tseo re di enforce.

Re a itse gore there will be a serious outcry mme in long-term ba tlaa tlwaela.
Re a bo re tsaya bonnyennyane compared to mafatshe a re bapileng le one le a mangwefela mo lefatsheng, so that we meet these expenditures tse dintsi botsadi.

Kgaolo ya me ke ya Rural Area Dwellers (RADs) about 11 villages.

If we can take that re nna re ba tlwaetsa, go tlaa nna botoka.

Honourable Minister, it is time now, we must revisit, o buile ka these parastatals.

Ke sale ke bua ka tsone maybe four years ago.

Ga ke bone tokafatso ya these parastatals tse Goromente a tsenyang madi mo go tsone.
O duela Chief Executives tsa teng madimadi a a fetang a Ministers, Tautona le Mapalamente.

Go dirwe sengwe mo go tsone.

Ga ke bone go dirwa sengwe, ke bona re bua fela.

Ke ipotsa gore go tshabiwa eng fa o le Minister o filwe boeteledipele.

Re ka bo re itse gore if there are 60 parastatals mo Botswana, Budget e ka bo e re boleletse gore we have incorporated them.

From 60 now we are running ka 40.


Ke dilo tse ke neng ke batla go di utlwa thata mo Budget e. Fa o ka lebelela a lot of these parastatals, they are milking a lot of money a lefatshe le mme at the longterm tse dingwe di dira a duplicate.

O bo e re o lebelela structure sa those parastatals o bo o fitlhela e le gore se sisimosa mmele.

Le yone Palamente tota fa o ka lebelela, wage bill ya one of the parastatals o ka fitlhela o kare Parliament is not the other arm of Government, di e feta kgakala.
Fa e le gore we want to cushion go nna le madi a a ka dirang ditlhabololo, a a ka tsamaisang lefatshe la rona, re ka simolola ka dilo tsone tseo.

Those people would not agree Honourable Minister if you do not enforce gore go diragale jalo ka dithata tsa gago because ba a itse gore ba bereka jang, ba amogela jang, go diragala eng.

Then, where is value for money for such parastatals?

Re buile ka tsone.

Tse dingwe di dira tiro e nngwefela.


For us to increase our revenue, we must look upon such parastatals.

We are a big country but small in population and we cannot have such parastatals tse re itseng gore formation ya tsone e ntseng jang.

Ke re ke dingwe dilo tse o tshwanetseng gore o di lebelele, especially in these trying times tsa bo COVID e re itseng gore lefatshe ga le na madi.

Mr Speaker, fa ke bua ka Palamente, re a itse maloba ka the 11th Parliament, ke gone go neng go oketswa madi.
E bile gone moo mo Mapalamenteng e ne e le a start mme re eme.

Honourable Molale can attest to that.

Re eme ka gore re ka bo re ile ra dira gore go okediwe, mme re bo re ema re lebeletse manokonoko a itsholelo le eng, le eng.

If there is something se e leng gore… re dirile a commission le rona.

Ke gore ke bua ka parastatals, ke bo ke boa ke bua ka rona gore maybe someone will ask his or herself gore rona?

Nnyaa, maloba go ne go baakanngwa structure sa rona, e bile ga se a felela.
Honourable Molale can attest to this.

54 Hansard No 205Thursday 17th February, 2022APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) gore Batswana ba kgone go nna ba bona tse dingwe, ba kgone go nna le tshepho jaaka ba ntse ba re tshepha go le gale, dingwaga tse tsotlhe.

Fa go sa bonale sepe re sa ketlole, go ya go nna mathata Honourable Minister.
Honourable Speaker, madi a pensions a e leng gore batho malatsinyana a ba a bo ba na le one, a ke Makhanselara kana Mapalamente, tota go nne le policies le melao e e straight gore fa motho a na le madinyana a gagwe a batla go adima… MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Majaga o eme foo fa pensions.

It is now 6 o’clock, may I call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker.
Jaaka o kopile Mr Speaker, re tlaa kopa Ntlo e gore batlotlegi ba dumalane gore re eme gone fa.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until Friday 18th February, 2022 at 9:00 a.m. Jaanong ke bo ke feta Mr Speaker ke re this budget, God willing, re ka rapela Modimo, our Development Budget e tsere lebaka e sena madi.
Ke sone se le bonang re lela ka bontsi, tota re sa itire, re dirwa ke mathata a e leng gore gongwe o a bo o solofeditse batho sepatela kana tsela o le Kablay, Lelatisitswe kana Honourable Leuwe kwa kgaolong mme go bo go tsaya bo 10 years.

Go bo go raya gore ga go na funding ya Development Budget.

Ka re a e re dilo tse re di dira Honourable Speaker, re lebelele gore funding ya projects tse di a bong di tsere lebaka e nne teng, especially tse di a bong di na le bo 10 years.
Dilo tse ke tsone tse di dirang gore Mapalamente a tlhobogiwe ke batho gotwe ga ba bue, gotwe ga ba dire sepe.

Mo Mid-Term Review nako e ntse e tswelela, dilo tseo gongwe re le Ntlo ya Palamente, re tshwanetse gore re di kanoke gore se se ka tshwanela kgaolo ya ga Leuwe kana Kapinga ka gore ga go na ditsela tsa bo Shakawe.

Mo ga PPP ga ke bone go ka bereka.

Ke dira jalo ka mabaka a gore maloba re le dikomiti tsa Mapalamente re tsamaile lefatshe le lotlhe.
Therefore, there is no one who should be fooling who, re lebelela ditlhabololo ka gore ke tlaa win ditlhopho, no, those days are gone.

Fa o win ditlhopho o tlaa win fela, ga gore sepe moo Modimo o a itse.

Re tshwanetse gore re lebelele lefatshe at large.

Jaaka re ne re tsamaya re le dikomiti, re ithutile dilo tse dintsi.
Ga e ka ke ya re kwa kgaolong ya ga Leuwe kana Kablay gompieno go batliwa ditsela tse ke itseng gore di ka gokaganya metse ya bone ka gana ka gore maloba re ne ra dira sone seo and all committees ba ne ba bona.

Fa go batliwa sepatela kwa Lerala le Nata, Honourable Tshere o ne a le kwa Nata le komiti ya gagwe, o bone matlhomola.

Le ene ga a ka ke a gana.

Re tshwanetse gore those things re di lebelele ka sebopego sone seo.
If we are true politicians ba re ratang lefatshe la rona la Botswana, then re tlaa dira gore ka dinako le ka dipaka re bo re ka gwetlha Minister wa Finance gore tota Development Budget le fa e le nnyennyane jaana, re a itse gore ke yone e e tsamaisang lefatshe.

Re tlaa gwetlha gore le Development Budget e gole re bone dilo tseo di tsamaya Honourable Speaker gore Batswana le bone ba nne le trust gape ba se ka ba re gongwe ga go dirwe sepe.

Corruption le yone ga e a tshwanela go nna e buiwa fela.
E tshwanetse gore fa e le teng… makalana a yone a leke go emisa gore a lot of money a se ka a re tswa ka diphatlha tsa menwana.

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