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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT WEDNESDAY 23 MARCH 2022 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 205 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon.

Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP.

DEPUTY SPEAKER Hon.

P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP.

(Tonota) Clerk of the National Assembly Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel Assistant Clerk (E) His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP.

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP.


(Boteti West) CABINET - President - Vice President - Ms B. N. Dithapo - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe - Advocate L. O. Tlhowe - Mr R. Josiah Hon.

K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP.

(Molepolole South) - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

K. T. Mmusi, MP.

(Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon.

Dr L. Kwape, MP.

(Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon.

K. K. Autlwetse, MP.


(Specially Elected) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon.

K. S. Gare, MP.

(Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

P. K. Kereng, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism Hon.

Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP.

(Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon.

T.M.

Segokgo, MP.

(Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon.

K. Mzwinila, MP.
K. Mzwinila, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon.

T. M. Rakgare, MP.

(Mogoditshane) - Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development Hon.

A. M. Mokgethi, MP.

(Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon.

P. O. Serame, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon.

F. M. M. Molao, MP.

(Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Hon.

Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP.


(Tati East) Hon.

L. M. Moagi, MP.

(Ramotswa) - Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology - Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security Hon.

M. Kgafela, MP.

(Mochudi West) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

M. R. Shamukuni, MP.

(Chobe) - Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development Hon.

E. M. Molale, MP.

(Goodhope-Mabule) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Hon.
D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP.

(Gaborone South) - Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

S. N. Modukanele, MP.

(Lerala -Maunatlala) Hon.

T. Monnakgotla, MP.

(Kgalagadi North) Hon.

M. M. Pule, MP.

(Mochudi East) Hon.

M. S. Molebatsi, MP.


(Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

S. Lelatisitswe, MP.

(Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon.

N. W. T. Makwinja, MP.

(Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon.

B. Manake, MP.
B. Manake, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

H. B. Billy, MP.

(Francistown East) Hon.

A. Lesaso, MP.

(Shoshong) - Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency Hon.

L. Kablay, MP.

(Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon.

Dr U. Dow, MP.

Hon.


P. Majaga, MP.

Hon.

M. Balopi, MP.

Hon.

J. S. Brooks, MP.

Hon.

C. Greeff, MP.

Hon.

T. Letsholo, MP.

Hon.

T. F. Leuwe, MP.

Hon.

T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP.

Hon.

Dr T. Matsheka, MP.

Hon.

S. N. Moabi, MP.

Hon.

P. K. Motaosane, MP.

Hon.

O. Regoeng, MP.

Hon.

J. L. Thiite, MP.


Specially Elected Nata-Gweta Gaborone North Kgalagadi South Gaborone Bonnington South Kanye North Takatokwane Gaborone Central Lobatse Tati West Thamaga-Kumakwane Molepolole North Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon.

D. Saleshando, MP.

(Leader of the Opposition) Hon.

M. G. J. Motsamai, MP.


(Opposition Whip) Maun West Ghanzi South Selebi Phikwe West Mahalapye East Sefhare-Ramokgonami Ngami Okavango Maun East Bobonong Selebi Phikwe East Palapye Nkange Mahalapye West Francistown West Hon.

D. L. Keorapetse, MP.

Hon.

Y. Boko, MP.

Hon.

Dr K. Gobotswang, MP.

Hon.

C. K. Hikuama, MP.

Hon.

K. K. Kapinga, MP Hon.

G. Kekgonegile, MP.

Hon.

T. B. Lucas, MP.

Hon.

K. Nkawana, MP.

Hon.

O. Ramogapi, MP.

Hon.

Dr N. Tshabang, MP.

Hon.

D. Tshere, MP.

Hon.


M. I. Moswaane, MP.

Hon.

T. S. Khama, MP.

Hon.

L. Lesedi, MP.

Hon.

B. Mathoothe, MP.

Hon.

M. Reatile, MP.

(Botswana Patriotic Front) Serowe West Serowe South Serowe North Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon.

W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.
Francistown South (Alliance for Progressives) TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT WEDNESDAY 23RD MARCH, 2022 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER..................................................................................................................1-8 QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE......................................................................................................................9-11 GOVERNMENT BILLS Supplementary Appropriation (2020/2021) Bill, 2022 (No.
4 of 2022) First Reading........................................................................................................................................................12 APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY Organisation 2200 –Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development (Resumed Debate)...........................................................................................................................................12-31 Organisation 2700 - Ministry of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology...................................32-41 Wednesday 23rd March, 2022 THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) P R A Y E R S * * * * QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER CLUSTER FENCING INITIATIVE MR O. REGOENG (MOLEPOLOLE NORTH): asked the Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security: (i) to apprise this Honourable House on the number of people/clusters from Molepolole who benefited from the cluster fencing initiative; and (ii) the extent of contribution towards food production by such fencing.
ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR MOLEBATSI): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Good afternoon Mr Speaker.

Good afternoon colleagues.

Mr Speaker, ga go na cluster mo motseng wa Molepolole.

Motse wa Molepolole is served by clusters tsa Kweneng South, Kweneng West and Kweneng North.

Gongwe ke rute Mopalamente gore dikgaolo tsa rona ka fa re kgaolang clusters kwa Lephateng la Temothuo, ga go tshwane le melelwane ya constituencies.
Therefore, constituency... MR SPEAKER (MR MOATLHODI): Is that part of the answer?

MR MOLEBATSI: Ee, Mr Speaker, wa re is that part of the answer?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: A ke tlaa arabiwa?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Molebatsi, I dealt with that subject, do not argue with me.

Honourable Member for Nata-Gweta!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, go arabilwe gotweng?

MR MOLEBATSI: Ga ke a araba potso kana o ntsene ganong.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, Mr Speaker, go arabilwe gotweng?
MR SPEAKER: Hang on a second, can you repeat yourself Honourable Molebatsi.

MR MOLEBATSI: Ke ne ke re ga go na cluster e gotweng ke ya Molepolole, cluster ke Kweneng South, Kweneng West and Kweneng North.

Therefore, ga go na gore o ka botsa gore cluster ya Molepolole which benefited ke efe.

Second part ke gore benefits tsa cluster fencing, ee, di dintsi ka gore balemi ba a kopanngwa, ba share resources, re bo re ba rotloetsa go lema crops tse di tshwanang.
Therefore, fa go diragala jalo, we realise a lot of benefits, production ya bone e nna kwa godimo fa re dirisa clusters.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR REGOENG: Supplementary.

Ke a utlwa Minister fa a re ga go na cluster ya Molepolole, ke dumalana le ene, but kana Ministry wa gagwe wa…(Interruptions)… go na le diofisi that deal le clusters tse di tswang mo Molepolole.

Dikgang tse a di buang tseo, ke tsa dikgaolo tse di tswang ka kwa ntle.

MR MOLEBATSI: Yes sir, it is part of the answer.


MR SPEAKER: Please ask him a question.

SPEAKER: Okay, MR ...(interruptions)…Tona.

ee rra, tsholetsa MR REGOENG: Yes, my question is, office ya gagwe ya Molepolole e dirile clusters tse kae?

MR MOLEBATSI: O doubt eng Mr Speaker?

It is part of the answer.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister.


MR MOLEBATSI: Potso e kana e letse e boile maabane, mme ka re ke tlhalose gore cluster go tewa eng ka gore e ne e boa ka go tlhoka go tlhaloganya melelwane ya clusters, that is what I am trying to do.

MR SPEAKER: You have already explained that honourable.

MR SPEAKER: That is better, no stories.

MR MOLEBATSI: Nnyaa, Mr Speaker, question e e kwadilweng e botsa ka cluster ya Molepolole.

Ga go na cluster e gotweng Molepolole.


E a e buang e gore go dirilwe clusters tse kae is another question.

Ke sone se ke se buang gore maabane ke ne ke re ke mo supegetsa gore batho ba Molepolole are served under cluster ya Kweneng South, Kweneng North and Kweneng West.

There is no Molepolole cluster, so the answer is no cluster kwa Molepolole.

1 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister.

Honourable Member for Nata-Gweta!


MR REGOENG: Mr Speaker, that is very unfair.

MR MAJAGA: Thank you Mr Speaker… MR SPEAKER: We are not going to dwell on this subject.

Ema pele Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Nata- Gweta.

Potso e o e boditseng labobedi, Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona, o tlhalositse gore ke potso e sele, tsamaya o ye go kwala potso eo, there is nothing unfair about it.

MR REGOENG: No!

No!

Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, reetsa fa re bua.


Potso e o letse a mpoleletse maabane, ke ne ka mo tlhalosetsa gore ke bua ka clusters that are manned by ofisi ya gagwe go tswa mo Molepolole, ke bone ba ke buang ka bone.

Go na le ofisi ya Agriculture kwa Molepolole e e dirang le clusters, that is what I want.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member for Molepolole North.

MR REGOENG: Rraetsho.


MR SPEAKER: I am not here for arguments, the Minister has answered, if you are not happy with the answer, rephrase another question or go and see him.
AGRICULTURAL DEMONSTRATORS AND VETERINARY OFFICES MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security to state when renovations and maintenance will be done at all Agricultural Demonstrators/Balemisi and Veterinary offices across the country and whether they will be provided with vehicles as a matter of urgency.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR MOLEBATSI): Ke a go leboga Mopalamente yo o tlotlegang wa Nata-Gweta.
Santlha ke tlhalose gore balemisi ga ba na diofisi, ba kile ba bo ba na le diofisi, e le gore ofisi ya teng was designed in such a way that ke kwa ba nnang teng gape, mme ba bo ba ya go sekisa Goromente gore ga ba ka ke ba berekela fa ba nnang teng, ba fenya case.

Jaanong ga re ise re ba bonele diofisi.

Kwa re nnang re ba isa teng, re a ne re ba kopela, fa gongwe re ba kopela kwa go Molaodi kana Mmaboipelego.
Gone koo fa re tshwanelwa ke gore re maintain, jaaka potso ya gago e ganelela teng, ke gore ministry o na le a three year planned maintenance programme o cycle ya teng e simololang ka May 2022, e bo e ya go fela ka May 2025 ka gore madi a one, a teng.

Ya bobedi Mr Speaker, mo Central District Council (CDC), re na le dikoloi di le 168.

Mo dikoloing tse di 168 tseo, ke tse 68 fela tse di tsamayang, tse di berekang, 100 o fa fatshe ga a bereke, di senyegile.
Therefore, re na le shortage e ntsi ya transport mongwame, mme kana se se ne se dirwa ke gore go ne go sena one madi a to maintain dikoloi.

Re kopile madi ka budget yone e, dikoloi tse 100 tse dingwe tse di emeng tse, re ya go di tsosa.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Majaga, are you fine?

MR MAJAGA: No, I am not fine, ke na le supplementary mo go yone.

Ke a go leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke a go leboga thata Rraetsho Tona.


Ke ne ke re mme Tona, ga o bone go le maleba gore gongwe le le lephata, le bonele dilo pele, le tlhoafale, le tšhematšheme, le dire diofisi tsa lephata le ka gore ke lephata le le botlhokwa thata mo matshelong a rona.
Fa e le gore le tlaabo le sena madi Tona, mo mading a re ntseng re a isa kwa Integrated Support Programme for Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD), ke eng le sa lebalebe, la bona gore instead of paying people P1,200 per hectare, botoka le ba neele half, maybe P500.

Fa e le gore ke P700 million, P300 million le simolole go dira diofisi gore le bone ba nne le seriti.

Kana le tshwanetse gore dilo di fetoge, le se ka la tsamaya fela golo go le gongwe fela.
Ya bofelo mo dipotsong tsa me Tona, kana lephata le ke lone le re lebileng mo go lone.

Rona ba re tlaa tlogang gongwe re retire, bontsi jwa rona, re ya gone koo, le fa o tshela tota, o kwalwa fa o tlhokafetse o ya kwa legodimong gotwe e ne e le molemi-morui, go ntse jalo.

MR SPEAKER: Ask him a question.

MR MAJAGA: Ke a botsa rraetsho, re a selela, re buelela batho.
Jaanong ke eng o sa bone gore kgang e ka gore ke gone kwa lephata le le yang go hira batho, ke eng Tona o sa dire gore le dikoloi o di oketse ka gore le fa di ka baakanngwa tse 100, balemisi ba ntse ba tlhaelelwa ke dikoloi.

Re batla gore le tshwaragane le maphata a mangwe jaaka la tourism le la bo Rakgare, gore le ise lefatshe le kwa pele jaaka e le maikaelelo a Puso le a ga Tautona.

Ke a leboga.

MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker.


Potso ya gago ya ntlha ke gore ke eng re sa ise madi kwa a 2 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER ka sologelang Batswana molemo teng.

O bo o bua gore madi a a isiwang kwa ISPAAD, fa ne gongwe a isiwa kwa balemising, to strengthen extension work, go nne le balemisi le bakenti, ba ye kwa bathong jaaka go ne go diragala bogologolo, re ba batlele matlo.

Potso ke gore, gona le gore re ise madi kwa ISPAAD, ke eng re sa a ise koo.
Re dumalana le wena re le lephata gore, re a lemoga gore go na le mananeo mangwe a rona a tota a sa sologeleng Batswana molemo, ntswa re tsenya madi mo go one, a saletse kwa morago, ga a dire se re neng re se solofetse.

ISPAAD, ka legale re e tlhabolotse gompieno, kwa e tswang teng ke nngwe ya mananeo a a supang gore go na le diphatlha.

Re dumalana le wena, go ya kwa pele rra, we strengthen kana re isa madi a mantsi kwa go reng re nne le bakenti le balemisi, Batswana ba kgone go ya go thusiwa.
Ke dumalana le wena, ke sone se re yang mo go sone motlotlegi.

Ya bobedi le yone e tsamaelana le gore re ba thuse ka resources, ka dikoloi le matlo.

Ke dumalana le wena, ke gone kwa re yang teng gompieno gore infrastructure and resources, Motswana a thusiwe go lema, a nne le dikgomo.

Ke sone se re se setseng morago ka ISPAAD ya bobedi e e tlang, e re tlaa e buang mo malatsing a a seng kana ka sepe a a tlang.

Ke a leboga.
LAND ALLOCATION IN MAHALAPYE WEST CONSTITUENCY MR D. TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): asked the Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services to update this Honourable House on the progress made following a Parliamentary question on land allocation in Mahalapye West Constituency and to further explain the following: (i) whether the ministry considered the proposal to allocate residential plots at Tapa-la-Manong in Mahalapye North as per Mahalapye Development Plan 2032; and (ii) if the ministry is considering setting up a Ministerial Technical Task Force to work with local authorities to accelerate design and layout of the said piece of land so that plot allocation can start without further delay.
MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): Mr Speaker, I hope the Honourable Member refers to Question 649 of August 2021, on land allocation in Mahalapye village.

If so, the question was not specifically addressing land allocation in Mahalapye West Constituency.

However, since the date of the question to-date, 47 residential plots have been allocated in Mahalapye.

During the 2022/2023 financial year, 5810 plots are to be allocated.
(i) The ministry considered the proposal to allocate residential plots at Tapa-La-Manong in Mahalapye North as per Mahalapye Development Plan 2032, and a detailed layout was prepared.

Although the layout was prepared and Strategic Environmental Assessment (SEA) undertaken, the stakeholders felt that it is not suitable for residential use as it has rock outcrops and ponds and thereby suitable for agriculture and not for residential plots.
The residential plots as per the layout were therefore not allocated, instead Mahalapye Sub-Land Board allocated some poultry projects and a garden in the area.

Mahalapye Sub-Land Board has instead been allocating residential plots in some other parts of the village.

Since the date of question 649 to date, 47 residential plots have been allocated in Mahalapye with a further 173 residential plots which are to be allocated during the course of this month.
During the 2022/2023 financial year, 2720 plots are to be allocated in Mahalapye Village alone, and 5810 plots are to be allocated in the sub-land board’s area of jurisdiction.

(ii) The ministry intends to engage a task team to investigate, scrutinise and validate the observations of the topology of the area.

The investigations will entail among others, mapping of the area to determine the extent of rock outcrops in the area.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

MR TSHERE: Supplementary.


Thank you very much Honourable Mzwinila.

Ke a go utlwa e bile ke a utlwa gore go raya gore Tapa-La-Manong area in Mahalapye North has been designated for agricultural purpose.

Ke batla gore e tswe e le phepa gore ba Mahalapye ba go utlwe ka eo.

Ke utlwa gape gore wa re le ya go dira ditlhatlhobo gore le bone gore go ya go diragala eng.
A ditlhatlhobo tsa teng ke tse di tlaa isang kwa goreng le tle le boele gore e nne residential plot kana e tlaa tswelela e le an agricultural plot?

3 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Se sengwe, kana fa ke bua ka Tapa-La-Manong and Mahalapye Development Plan, ke bua ka Mahalapye yo o ka fa West of seporo.

Jaanong ka koo ke gone kwa ditsha di sa beweng, go bewa ka kwa Mahalapye yo o ka kwa ga seporo.
Tona, ga ke itse gore fa o re 143, o raya Mahalapye yo o ka kwano ga seporo, ka gore waiting list ya rona e tsamaya kwa godimo thata, kwa go bo 20 000.

A ko o tlhatswe kgang eo.

Ke a leboga.

MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke tsaya gore jaaka ke tlhalositse, re ne re ikaeletse gore lefelo la teng e nne la ditsha tsa bonno.
Mo sebakeng sa gompieno, ga re sa tlhole re ya go baya ditsha tsa bonno teng, ka gore re dira dipatlisiso tsa gore re bone gore mmu le matlapa a teng a a ka siamela ditsha tsa bonno.

Sa bobedi, ke rile ditsha tse ke neng ke bua ka tsone ke tsa Mahalapye otlhe ka bophara.

Ke tlhalositse gore se re yang go se dira, re ya go baya ditsha di le 2720 mo Mahalapye otlhe ka bophara, re tsentse motse wa Mahalapye ka fa West le East.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.


NATIONAL VISION 2036 MR M. BALOPI (GABORONE NORTH): asked the Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration to brief this Honourable House on progress made towards gaining traction for the national Vision 2036: (i) what steps have been taken to ensure that the Vision is disseminated to Batswana so that they own and live it; and (ii) how the RESET Agenda and Vision 2036 have been aligned so that there are synergies in implementation.
ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Thank you Mr Speaker.

(i) Mr Speaker, in the period before the advent of COVID-19, the Vision 2036 Council through its coordinating agency, engaged actively with leadership in the ministries promoting deeper appreciation of the Vision, in particular, its relevance to the respective mandate of the ministries.

It was demonstrated how the Vision should be mainstreamed into the annual strategic planning process.
To this end, ministries were asked to employ and deploy their already existing structures to implement and disseminate, using National Development Plan (NDP) as the vehicle for delivery.

Parallel to this engagement, leadership of a number of local authorities were also brought on board to promote understanding and ownership of the Vision.

Again, it was encouraged that the Vision is delivered through the implementation of U/DDCs using existing structures.
To this end, the planners in the districts visited were coached on how to align and integrate the Vision into the planning process.

Mr Speaker, creation of new structures has been discouraged to ensure that existing structures are used optimally without the need for additional resources.
Following the relaxation of physical movement which had been curtailed by COVID-19, a number of Kgotla meetings have been addressed as part of the efforts to engage the general public to understand, own and live the Vision.

(ii) Mr Speaker, it must be understood that the RESET Agenda is not a separate Agenda from Vision 2036.
This Agenda which is constituted by five priorities defines broad strategies for implementing the Vision by identifying new people-centric priorities of the nation and the whole Government.

It is about implementing change management.

These priorities are aligned to Vision 2036.

First priority is “Save Botswana’s Population from COVID-19,” it is in line with the vision objective of health and wellness belonging to Pillar 2 of human and social development.
This is where we aspire to live long and healthy lives.

The second priority is “Aligning Botswana Government Machinery to the Presidential Agenda.” This surety is in line with the Vision objective to reform public institutions to achieve greater effectiveness and efficiency.

The current rationalisation exercise aims specifically at this objective.

The third priority is “Digitisation,” which is about enabling productivity for improved delivery of services to the people.
This priority aims to deliver on all the imperatives through the Vision objective, “Knowledge Based Economy” of Pillar 1.

The need for digitisation transcends all pillars, it is about enhanced use of science, technology and innovation.
4 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER The fourth priority is “Value Chain Management” which also relates to all pillars, but focusing on unlocking opportunities for new high growth companies in the private sector and for citizen empowerment including, youth employment prioritises specific sectors of the economy to drive the much needed export export diversification.
re fetile seemo sa COVID, ba tlaa tswelela mo ditirong tsa bone go rutuntsha Batswana kana ba ba bolelela ka tiro ya bone ya 2036, dilo tse ba di dirang le kwa ba batlang go ba isa teng.

Ke dilo tse ba ntseng ba di dira and ba tsweletse ba tlaa di dira botoka go ya kwa pele Honourable Balopi fa ba ntseng ba tlhaela teng.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

The fifth priority is “Mindset Change” which again speaks to all pillars and recognises the need to attain high income status.
It promotes developing capacity for entrepreneurship which is about building ‘human capital’, purporting to eliminate inferiority complex among Batswana through, amongst others, fostering independence, self-reliance and unleashing entrepreneurial spirit in our people.

This is key to addressing transformation as envisioned.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

MR BALOPI: Supplementary.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke leboge Tona ka karabo.


Gone ke tlhaloganya nako, mme ke ne ke solofetse gore re ka bua ka Setswana, ra tlhalosetsa Batswana ka vision, ditomagano le se se dirwang.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, kgangkgolo e e neng e le teng nako e e fetileng … MR SPEAKER: Mmotse potso ngwana wa ga mogolole, mmotse potso.

MR BALOPI: Ee rra.

Potso ga e botswe fela e sa alelwa.

MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, ga e alelwe nako e ile.

Mmotse potso ngwana wa ga mogolole.


MR BALOPI: Nako e e fetileng ya 2016 le e e teng e ntšha e, batho ba ne ba sa tlhaloganye gore vision go dirilwe eng, ga go a dirwa eng.

Ke botsa Tona gore a ga a bona go le maleba gore go dirwe sengwe se se tlaa tswelelang e le molotsana o o buiwang le Botswana ka dikeletso tsa bone go re isa kwa go 2036?

E se ka ya re re tsena kwa ba bo ba re, ga go a dirwa sepe jaaka ka nako eo.

Ke a go utlwa gore o bua ka dilo tse di dirwang, mme di dirwa go sa boelwe kwa bathong.
Fa go ka bo go na le thulaganyo e ka seromamowa, television kana eng go ba gakolola, a ga o bone moo go ka re direla bomolemo re le lefatshe?

O tlaa intshwarela rangwane.

MR MTHIMKHULU: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ba Vision 2036 bo Rre Molomo, ba ne ba kile ba dira publicity ya yone le tse e di dirang.

Re tshwanetse re gakologelwe gore re ne re tshwerwe ke tsa COVID.

Dilo tse dingwe di ne di sa dirwe sentle.


Ke dumela gore ka MR BOKO: Mr Speaker, before I go to question five, there is an issue ya procedure that I wanted to raise… MR SPEAKER: Please ask your question.

Standing Order 41.3 says, “short and precise questions must be asked.” We do not tour the horizon, you ask short and precise questions; Standing Order 41.3.

Please ask you question Honourable Boko.
YOUTH DEVELOPMENT FUND MR Y. BOKO (MAHALAPYE EAST): asked the Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development to state: (i) the number of young people in Mahalapye East Constituency who have been funded through the Youth Development Fund (YDF) since His Excellency the President Dr M. E. K. Masisi ascended to the country’s presidency on 1st April, 2018 to date; and (ii) if there are any developments on the part of Government to review the YDF to improve the success rate of youth projects as His Excellency the President promised during the First Meeting of the Fifth Session of the 11th Parliament.
OF MINISTER ASSISTANT YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR BILLY): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke a leboga Honourable Boko wa Mahalapye East.

Karabo ya gago e ntse jaana.

(i) Go tswa ka April 2018 go tsena letsatsi leno, re ne ra fa banana mo kgaolong ya gago ya Mahalapye East Constituency ba le 46.

Ke rata go go kgaoganyetsa jaana: • Go tswa mo ngwageng wa madi wa 2018/2029 re file 18 projects.

• 2019/2020; nine.

• 2020/2021; three.

• 2021/2022; 16.


5 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER (ii) Mr Speaker, re na le tirisanyo le ba United Nations Development Plan (UNDP) go tokafatsa lenaneo la Youth Development Fund (YDF).

Re ne ra bona a consultancy e e neng ya dira tiro, mme kwa pheletsong ra bona tiro ya teng e sa itumedise, ra se ka ra dumalana le yone.

Ka ngwaga wa 2020/2021 wa madi, re ne ra dira mo gotweng direct appointment le company e re neng re e beile monwana.
E ne ya palelwa ke go tlisa dilo tsotlhe tse re neng re di tlhoka gore re dumalane le yone.

Pheletso ya teng ke gore, re ne ra se ka ra dumalana le bone, ra emisa tumalano e e ka bong a dirilwe.

Kwa pheletsong rraetsho ke gore, re setse se simolotse lenaneo la gore e re quarter ya ngwaga wa 2022/2023, re bo re abile a consultant e e tlaa re thusang ka tiro eo.

Ke a leboga.

MR BOKO: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Thank you Tona ka dikarabo tseo tsa gago.


Tota go a supa gore ministry wa gago o a palelwa mo dikgannyeng tsa banana.

Dipotso di pedi tse ke batlang gore o di nkarabele ka boleele.

Fa re alola nako, re tshwanetse re arabe dipotso ka fa go tshwanetseng di arabiwe ka teng.

Potso ya ntlha ke gore, o re tlhalosetse gore criteria e le neng le e dirisa to fund the youth ke efe because la ntlha go ne go dirisiwa ya first come, first served?
Malatsi a o kgona go fitlhela motho a le funded pele mme a isitse la bofelo.

Ke selo se se tshwenyang banana ba motse wa Mahalapye.

O kgona go fitlhela proposal e busitswe gotwe madi a fedile, a ise e tsenelele interview.

Ga re kgone go tlhaloganya gore which competition method was used mo dikgannyeng tsa teng?

Ya bobedi, banana ba Mahalapye ba batla go tlhaloganya gore what kind of projects were funded this year because go lebega e le gore 90 per cent of the projects ke tsa dipodi.
O tlaa tlhaloganya gore kwa Mahalapye ga go tshwane le kwa Kgalagadi.

Ga se lefelo le le nonofetseng go ka thusa ka kgang ya go ruiwa ga small stock.

So, most of the youth ba ba ikopelang kwa Mahalapye ba tewa gotwe we fund ba dipodi fela.

Ke batla go tlhaloganya gore a re ka se ka ra tokafatsa seemo, ra lebelela gore kwa Mahalapye go nonofetswe go ka thusa batho bafe because o tlaabo a fiwa dipodi, a bo a felela a sa di tlhokomele.
Ya boraro ya bofelo ke ya gore, fa re sena to fund banana ba Mahalapye, the youth officers ke bone ba ba dirang project monitoring mme ga ba na business skills tsa dikgang tse.

Why le sa appoint qualified consultants to monitor the projects tse di diragalang mo kgaolong?

Ke 6 yone kgang e ke batlang go feta ka yone Tona.

There are three issues that I have raised, I hope o tlaa kgona go di araba ka Setswana tsotlhe.
MR BILLY: Le fa o ne omana Honourable Member, ke ne ke sa itse gore komano ya rona ke ya eng.

Fa o ka lebelela ka fa re dirang ka teng, re ntsha letsatsi la gore projects tsa banana di tlisiwa leng, di ya go tswalwa leng.

Ke yone thulaganyo e re e dirisang.

Ya bobedi ke ya gore, kwa Mahalapye East projects tsa ngwaga wa 2021/2022 ke rile di 16 mme mo go tsone re dirisitse madi a a kana ka P 1, 551, 923.59.
Mo go tsa agriculture; small stock di nnile 12, tsa service; one, manufacturing; mo go dirwang ditena, ba bangwe ba fashion design, ba bangwe ba ba apayang marotho di nnile three.

Ya bofelo e o neng o e botsa Honourable Member o re supervision e dirwa ke officers tsa Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development (MYSC), go boammaaruri.

Suggestion ya to outsource go tokafatsa service ya rona, it is a good suggestion.
Re tlaa e lebelela gore a ke sengwe se re ka se dirang fa madi a rona a ka kgona.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

Procedure!

MR SPEAKER: We are answering questions Honourable Boko.

We have many questions to cover.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, we are allowed to raise a procedure.

MR SPEAKER: Please, switch his microphones off.


CROP AND ANIMAL PRODUCTION RESEARCH CENTRE GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- K. DR RAMOKGONAMI): of asked Agricultural Development and Food Security to update this Honourable House on crop and animal production research units/centres, and to specifically state: the Minister (i) how many such units or centres are fully operational; and (ii) how he rates the level of performance of the centres in attaining their set targets in terms of output.
ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR MOLEBATSI): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER (i) Mr Speaker, re na le lefelo la dipatlisiso (research centre) le le lengwefela mo lephateng la rona e leng Department of Agricultural Research, e a bereka.

unit which is the Department of Agricultural Research.

Mo gongwe ke makalana a unit eo, they report to that unit.

That is what they asked.

How many units are fully operational?


It is one.

(ii) Mr Speaker, go boammaaruri performance ya lone e a re kgotsofatsa le fa go ise go fitlhelele kwa re batlang teng sentle thata, mme re ya teng.

Ba dira dipatlisiso mo dijwalong, diphologolo le diruiwa.

We are developing crops and animal technologies gore re kgone go tlhabolola temothuo.
Ka re nna re batla go dira go feta fa re leng teng fa, re kopanya Department of Agricultural Research (DAR), Botswana National Veterinary Laboratory (BNVL) le National Food Technology Research (NFTRC) go dira lephata le lengwefela la dipatlisiso le le bitswang National Agricultural Research and Development Institute (NARDI).

Mr Speaker, mo dipatlisisong tse di neng di dirwa ke bana ba rona mo Lephateng le la Dipatlisiso, re kgonne go dira kgomo ya rona ya Botswana e gotweng Mosi.
Gape re kgonne go dira crops tse di kgonang go ema mo leubeng le letona tse di tshwanang BWS 401, BWS 523, BWS 309 tse e leng masika a mmidi.

Re bo re kgona go dira masika a dinawa ER7, INA 37, BWS 365 a a dirwang ka dipatlisiso tsa bana ba rona mo Research Centre yone e. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Supplementary.

Ke a leboga.

Mr Speaker, I think the Minister has totally misdirected himself, o ipodise potso e e leng gore gongwe ga se yone e re e botsang.
Honourable Minister, a o raya gore lefelo la lona la dipatlisiso le lengwefela?

Dipolase tse dintsi tse di kwa bo North East, North West, Borolong, Kang, Ghanzi, le yone ya Tautona Lodge, e builwe e le lefelo le le tlaa dirisiwang mo dipatlisisong, le kwa bo Dibete, a mafelo a Honourable Minister, ga se a dipatlisiso a a tletseng lefatshe le lotlhe?

Lefelo la lona la dipatlisiso le lengwefela?

A tsweletse go le kae?

Re batla go itse gore a tsweletse go le kae?


Tautona Lodge specifically ka gore gatwe le ya go dira dipatlisiso teng, le ya go dira tsa mofuta mang Honourable Minister?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga a itse, o mošha.

MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker.

Potso e e ne e botsa gore re na le units di le kae tsa research mo Lephateng la Temothuo?

Boammaaruri ke gore unit e nngwefela, one a a neng a ntse a a bua bo Impala, kae, kae, ke tlaa go direla list ya one.
Ke makalana a unit yone e nngwefela e. We have only one HONOURABLE MEMBER: And centres.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gatwe centres.

MR MOLEBATSI: E nngwe ya gore Tautona Lodge e ya go dira eng, there is only unit, ke Botswana Agricultural Research… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Yone centre?

MR SPEAKER: Give the Minister a chance.

MR MOLEBATSI: These centres come under one unit which is Department of Agricultural Research… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Jaanong ke eng o sa arabele centres Honourable Minister?
MR SPEAKER: Honourable Gobotswang, please give the Minister a chance.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Aa-h!

Minister o a palelwa.

MR MOLEBATSI: Mr Speaker, ya bobedi o ne a bua ka performance, ke mmoleletse gore it is performing well, but we can do better ka gore research ke selo se se nnang se tswelela fela.

Se tshwanelwa ke go nna se tlhabologa.

Ke jaaka o bona re tsenya madi mo go yone re na le a Research Fund e e kwa Ministry wa Tertiary Education.
Se setona ke gore the research unit ke Department of Agricultural Research, e nngwefela.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker!

Ga o ka ke wa tlogela Minister a sa arabe dipotso.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Dr Gobotswang, o ne o iketla.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Wa re ke iketla Minister a sa arabe dipotso?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: No!

No!

Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O feta metsi o tshwara seretse.

Maabane o… HONOURABLE MEMBER: No!

No!

Mr Speaker.

Ke a gana Mr Speaker.


7 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER HONOURABLE MEMBER: Maabane o ntirile fela jaana… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke batla procedure Mr Speaker!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gompieno re a go latela.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Makgophe ga a yo, re a go latela gompieno.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga re itse gore o tlaa bitsa mang ka gore Makgophe ga a yo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker!

Ka bokhutshwane karabo ke yone eo Mr Speaker.


Ke tsaya gore ka jalo megatlana ya yone ya (ii) and (iii) fall off and it is of no relevance and consequence.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR NKAWANA: Supplementary.

Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker.


Mma ke go botse Honourable Minister gore le fa le ise le rekisetse badiredi ba khansele matlo kgotsa bape fela, badiredi ba khansele ka gore ba ba tshwantshanya le badirelapuso ba bangwe ba ba kgonang go reka pool houses, a mme o na le lenaneo to cater for them gore ba kgone go reka matlo fa ba sa hirisa mo Botswana Housing Corporation (BHC), e le yone e tlhaelang kwa Phikwe?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Gobotswang, what is your problem?

DR GOBOTSWANG: My procedure is my problem!


You are trampling on my constitutional right.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker, procedure.

MR MODUKANELE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ka bokhutshwane fela mma ke supe gore, kana ke kakanyo e ntle, e e leng gore ke keletso ya mongwe le mongwe gore o ka nna le ntlo kana bonno.

Jaaka re bua gompieno ke sengwe se gongwe going forward se tlaa nna se sekasekiwa, re lebile seemo the way it will be evolving Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Please, say what you want.

Rraetsho, ke bereka ka nako golo fa.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Leuwe for Honourable Greeff.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Re batla dikarabo from the Ministers Mr Speaker.
SALE OF HOUSES BY SELEBI PHIKWE TOWN COUNCIL MR K. NKAWANA (SELEBI PHIKWE EAST): asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development to apprise this Honourable House on whether there has been sale of houses owned by the Selebi Phikwe Town Council in the past ten years; if so: (i) how many units were sold; (ii) whether they were sold to any particular group of people; (iii) the motivation of such sale.
OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MODUKANELE): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke lebogele potso ya ga Rre Nkawana.

Mma ka bokhutshwane ke supe gore ga go na matlo ape a Khansele ya Selebi Phikwe e a rekisitseng.

Ga gona ope yo o rekiseditsweng matlo ao kana setlhopha sepe sa batho se se rekiseditsweng matlo mo dingwageng tse 10 tse di fetileng le go feta.
BOOKS WRITTEN BY BATSWANA MR C. GREEFF (GABORONE BONNINGTON SOUTH): asked the Minister of Basic Education why a lot of books that are written by Batswana are not given preference when reading prescription lists are done as compared to non-citizen authors despite the fact that Batswana written books end up being prescribed in foreign curriculums and to further state: (i) when local books are going to dominate the local curriculums; (ii) how many Batswana written books are in Botswana curriculums as compared to books written by foreigners; and (iii) if this is not creating a market for foreign writers at the expense of locals and thus compromising economic empowerment and poverty alleviation.
ACTING MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR MODUKANELE): Mr Speaker, I thank you sir.

Mr Speaker, the selection and prescription of books for support of teaching and learning depends upon the requirements of the syllabus, the syllabus content and its objectives.

For example, for English Literature diversity is a key requirement and local authors have 8 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER been prescribed along with the works of Shakespeare and other literati.
Literature titles are rotated and the same titles are not prescribed year on year.

Subjects such as Setswana are almost 100 per cent locally authored, whereas French is currently authored by non-citizens only.

During the prescription of text books open tenders are published to invite submission of relevant texts, including international titles, aligned to the requirements of Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (PPADB).
Publishers then submit texts for appraisal by the ministry to ensure suitability and compliance to the needs of the curricula.

Any book that meets the set evaluation criterion can be prescribed.

Citizen texts which have met these criterion are also prescribed.

Some citizen authors have marketed themselves in other countries and if their books meet requirements may sell to those countries which is commendable.
(i) Locally authored books are already dominating prescription lists particularly in preprimary and primary level.

Citizens are not yet producing enough books at secondary level particularly for the senior secondary curriculum to meet the ministry’s needs.

(ii) Mr Speaker, at Pre-primary level 98 per cent of texts are locally authored.

At Primary Education level more than 90 per cent are locally authored.
At Junior Secondary level 85 per cent of texts are locally authored but at Senior Secondary level only 6 per cent of texts are locally authored which includes 100 per cent of the Setswana books prescribed.

(iii) Mr Speaker, from the statistics shared it is apparent that my ministry is not creating a market for foreign writers but rather there is a strong preference for local authors.

In addition, there is need for more citizen authors to write quality texts for the senior secondary school syllabi.
The Senior Secondary school curriculum is under review and this presents an opportunity for all citizen authors to participate in the provision of the required textbooks and e-Content.

I thank you Mr Speaker.
QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE PROPOSED TOURISM SITES IN THE CHOBE DISTRICT MR D. SALESHANDO (MAUN WEST): asked the Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism to state if she has received any objections to the proposed tourism sites in the Chobe National Park, the nature of the objections and if she has responded to all the objections and what the response was; the Minister should further state the following: (i) if independent Environmental Impact an Assessment the possible impact of the new sites and the key recommendations; (EIA) was conducted on (ii) if the proposed new sites are in line with the existing Chobe National Park Management Plan and further explain the status of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) sponsored Management Plan; (iii) if the new sites conform to the low volume, high value policy stance of Government; and (iv) if any requests for new developments in the Chobe National Park were in the past turned down on account of environmental considerations.
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM (MS KERENG): I thank you Mr Speaker and good afternoon.

Mr Speaker, re amogetse ngongorego e le e e neng e tswa kwa lekgotleng lengwe la badiragatsi kana batsayakarolo, operators ba bojanala.
Ba e rileng re sena go nna re ntsha mokwaloikopelo wa lodge sites ka kwa Chobe National Park ba bo ba re kwalela ba supa gore go na le dintlha dingwe tse re tshwanetseng ra di tshwaraganela go supa gore gongwe ba na le letshogo la gore lodge sites kana mafelo a re reng re bulela Batswana mo Chobe National Park gore ba dire Bojanala, gongwe go ka nna le gore tikologo e ka seke e tshwarege sentle kana re ka senya seemo sa tikologo ka koo.
Ba supa gore ka mabaka ao tota thatathata e le matshwenyego ka tikologo, gongwe re nne fatshe re lebelele gore re ka leka go baakanya jang kana ra buisana jang ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Mr Speaker, ke supe gore ba ne ba supa gape gore tender e re e ntshitseng eno dinako tsa yone di lebega di le dikhutshwane, go ka pitlaganya baikopedi.

Ba bo ba kopa jalo kwa bofelong gore mme re nneng fatshe re buisane.
Go na le mekwalo e mengwe e e iseng e ko e tle kwa go rona, mme e supa gore e bua dingongorego tsa go nna jalo, di kwaletswe office ya ga Molaodi, go kwaletswe bo Council Secretary ka kwa Kgaolong ya 9 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE Chobe, mme BTO le Department ya Diphologolo le yone e supafala gore e ne e kopetswe mokwalo oo.

Ke tlaa re tota ka kwano one o sa tla o re lebagane.

Le bone go supafala ba ntsha tsone dintlha tse di ntseng jalo tsa dingongorego.
Kana dilo tse di diragala re ne re tshwanetse gore re tle re nne le dipuisano tse re neng re ka bo re kgonne go phutholola dintlha dingwe ka dikgang tse.

Mr Speaker, dikgang tse dingwe di ne di tswa mo babegadikgannye ka go farologana, di tla ka dinako tse di farologaneng.

Babegadikgang ba re, tlhalosang gore golo ka kwa Chobe la re le batla go bulela Batswana gore ba tsene ba dire bojanala, re tlhalosetseng dintlha dingwe.

Ra bo re ntse re ntsha ditlhaloso tse di ntseng jalo.
Mr Speaker, ke supe gore re ntse re a di araba, kana di tla ka nako e e farologaneng.

Jaanong ba ba ntseng ba kopa meetings ga re ise re kgone go tshwara meetings tse di ntseng jalo.

Batho ba tshwana le bo Modulasetilo wa lekgotla leo re setse re kile ra buisana le ene, mme ra tlhalosa gore tota rona seemo sa rona ke eng, e bile tshwetso ya rona e eme ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Mabapi le gore a go kile ga dirwa Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) Mr Speaker, Environmental Impact Assessment go ya ka molao o re neng re o baakanya ka 2021 wa Environmental Assessment, re bone gore e tlaa re fa batho ba sena go fiwa mafelo ao e bo e le gone ba tlaa dirang Environmental Impact Assessment, gore e itebaganye thatathata le se ba batlang go se dira, gore se tlaabo se ama tikologong jang.
Le gore go tlaabo go dirwa jang gore projects kana dikago tse ba tlaabong ba di dira le ditlhabololo tseo di…(inaudible)… le gore go ka fokodiwa manokonoko mo tikologong ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Ke ka moo gompieno re tlaabo re ntsha ditsha tseno re sa re go dirwe EIA pele, e tlaa dirwa ba sena go nna ba di neelwa.

Golo mo go tlile go re thusa gore re se ka ra diega ka go leka go dira EIA.

Mr Speaker, the Chobe National Park Management Plan e dirilwe, e feditswe mo ngwageng o o fetileng.
Management plan o o ne o na le a technical document e e neng e kaela gore go ka lebisisiwa eng mo go tsa tikologo le mo goreng, a re ka tsenya ditlhabolo kana re ka seke re tsenye ditlhabololo, di tsene ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Re e weditse.

We could have launched it tota ka November sentlesentle, re bo re palelwa ke dipitlagano.

Ra bo re re re a leka le mo kgweding e, mme re tlaa tla ka one re tla to launch for Batswana, re ba o phuthulolela fa kgwedi eno e ya go fela.
Mr Speaker, ke supe gore mo teng ga management plan o fa re ntse re tsamaya ka one re o dira jalo, go ne go supafala gore mafelo a re neng re a lebile teng mo Chobe National Park a ka ntsha lodge sites di le 11.

Gompieno we have advertised di le eight mo go tsone, re re re tle re nne re tataise, re tle re ithute re ntse re tokafatsa re ya kwa pele.
Potso e nngwe e ne e re, a mme gone fa re batla go oketsa badiragatsi mo Chobe National Park e le lefelo le le sireletsegileng leo jalo, a re tlaabo re sa senye thulaganyo ya rona ya bojanala e gotweng ke yone, “low volume high value”, e seng gore gongwe re tlaa tloga re senya gone moo.

Kana eo ke yone e e re thusang gore e bo gompieno fa re bua ka bojanala jwa Botswana re bo re supa gore the Foreign Direct Investment e ntse e tsena.
Golo moo re ntse re go etse tlhoko ka go supa gore kana jaaka ke ne ke re sites di 11 mme re ntsha di le eight, re ntse re tlhokometse golo moo.

Ga re batle mosuke ka kwa protected areas tsa rona.

Mo godimo ga moo re tlaabo re tla go letlelela fela gore fa e le lodge re tlaa re beds kana malao a se ka a feta 75, gore re bo re ntse re tlhokometse gore ga re dire mosuke kana bokete jo bo ntseng jalo.
Go kile ga nna le kopo ya a Non Government Organisation (NGO) e e neng e batla go dira an elephant orphan sanctuary on the park.

Ke yone e e kileng ya ganwa ka mabaka a gore e ne e sa tsamaisane le se re se babaletseng ka kwa.

Go tlaabo go sa tsamaisane le gore kana diphologolo tsele di bonwa mo mafelong a tsone a a leng gore a natural.
Jaanong Mr Speaker, ka bokhutshwane tota camp sites ke tseo, re di neela Batswana, jaaka e le maitlamo a rona, jaaka re dirile le kwa mafelong a mangwe a a tsone ke sireleditseng diphologolo.

Dingongorego tseo, mme re tlaabo re ntse re lebeletse gore gongwe Batswana re ba rute, re ba bontshe sentle gore tota re leka go dira eng, e bile ga go na matshosetsi.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister.

All questions have been done.

Thank you very much.


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Not so quickly Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Leader of the Opposition (LOO), nako e tsamaile tlhe mongwame, you will realise gore I went out of the way gore a bale karabo.

10 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE MR SALESHANDO: Mr Speaker, urgent question e letlelelwa le nako e tšhaile, ke yone tsamaiso e e ntseng e dirwa.
Otherwise, go ya go fola sesha will kill the urgency, and clearly go na le some parts of the questions tse a sa di arabang.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Saleshando, there is no Standing Order that says that, but on humanitarian ground, more so that o kgakala, I will give you two minutes to do that.

MR SALESHANDO: Mr Speaker, go na le potso e ke e boditseng gore a bue le ka the existing e e teng gompieno, management plan ya Chobe gore a se ba se dirang, does it comply le yone; ga a araba.
Ke botsa se gape ka gore management plan eo, e ne e kile ya supa gape gore the part e ba batlang go dira lodges kwa go yone, it is already congested.

Fa e le gore it is congested, ke eng ba tswelela in that manner?
Ke kopa Tona a tlhalose gape gore kgang e a e buang ya objections, a go boamaaruri gore le ba ba neng ba dira the management plan ya USAID ya gompieno, consultants ba ba kwaletse ba supa gore ka ke ba jaanong ba dira diphetogo that were not the ones approved, ba se ka ba amanngwa gotlhelele le plan yone eo.

Have you received that objection from the consultant Minister?

Then the final one; a wa re the sanctuary ke yone fela e e kileng ya kopelwa go dirwa ya gana?
A ga o itse tse dingwe tse di kileng tsa kopelwa tsa ganwa ka gore go ne go lebega e le gore this place is congested e bile go ya go thibela wildlife corridors mo lefelong lone leo?

Are you not aware gore there is already that concern, before re tsena mo go tse eight tse le reng le a di dira gompieno?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, I have allocated you three minutes to answer this question.

I am not going to renew this three minutes, please go to the point.
MS KERENG: I will do that in less than three minutes Mr Speaker.

Potso ya bofelo fela e motlotlegi a fetsang ka yone ke gore a re go ne go lebega e le gore gongwe go lebeletswe gore go ka nna le mosuke, dikopo tse dingwe di bo di ganwa.

Ke tlhalositse gore ga ke itse dikopo tse di neng di ganwa, kwa ntleng ga e ke buileng ka yone ya orphanage ya diphologolo.

Jaanong gore mosuke o teng, ke tlaa supa gore kana fa re dira dilo tse go na le technical inputs into the decisions tse re di dirang.
E bile gape go na le site visits tse di dirilweng, go ya go bona le gone gore tota mme a mosuke o ka nna teng Mr Speaker.

Re tlhomamisa gore golo kwa go ka kgona gore lodges tseo di nne teng.

Distance fa gare ga tsone le yone e a letlelelwa gore go ka nna jalo, tota ga gona mosuke.

Gape a re go na le mosuke; ga ke itse gore o ka bala lodges tse kae tse di setseng di le kwa Chobe ka re itse gongwe e le nngwefela fela e e mo teng ga park fa re buang teng ka koo.
Jaanong gore consultants di kwadile objection; ga ke itse gore a consultant fa e sena go nna e go direla report o e romile, e ka nna objection e sena go nna e go neela se e reng e itse gore go tshwanetse go nna jang ka dikitso tsa bone.

Kana we are custodians of all the reports and documents tse di dirwang ke consultant.

We own it and re tshwanetse go bona gore maikaelelo a rona ka these consultancies, ke gone gore... MR SALESHANDO: Have you received an objection from the consultant?
That is the question.

MS KERENG: Ga ke ise ke amogele objection.

Jaanong go bo go nna le ya gore a management plan o gompieno ke neng ke supa gore we have updated kana go na le o mosha, a mme gone o o neng o le teng ,a o ne o sa supe gore ga go letlelesege gore go nne le the new lodge sites ka gore go mosuke?
Kana lebaka la gore re bo re ntse re update management plans tse, ke gone gore e rile fa re ntse re tlhabologa, dilo di fetoga re ntse re tokafala le ka dikitso, bokgoni le maikaelelo a rona re le Puso a ntse a fetoga, re kgone gore fa re dira revisions tse di ntseng jaana, re bone gore mo teng ga these reviews, can we consider adding two or more sites for instance, go tswelela re diragatsa maikaelelo a Puso.
So the updating ke go bona gore re ka tsenya eng, re ka se ke re tsenye eng mme re ntse re thusiwa ke the technical input e e tlang ka these processes gore re bo re dira scientific based and scientific advised decisions.

Ga re na letshogo la gore lodges di ka se ke di okediwe kwa Chobe National Park.

Ke wetse Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo.

MR SALESHANDO: Kana potso ke gore are you complying le e e leng teng; ga o arabe.

Are you complying with the existing management plan?

That is the question.


MS KERENG: Fa ke bua ka the existing management plan, ke bua ka e re e feditseng ngogola.

MR SALESHANDO: Nnyaa, e le e feditseng ngogola ga e... 11 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE MS KERENG: We are complying with it Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Oketsa nako Mr Speaker, re na le dipotso.

MR SPEAKER: We are done with questions, all the nine questions have been answered.

Presentation of the Government Bill.


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, re ngongoregela thata the way you are handling these questions.

Kana dipotso tse are of national interest... MR SPEAKER: Let us have order please!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go nna fela o kare o prefect kana teacher, ga go re berekele golo moo.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kekgonegile, please, we are on the presentation of the Government Bill.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kana Mr Speaker, mathata ke gore o alotse nako, ga gona quality mo... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Can you switch off Ramogapi’s microphone.

Switch it off.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke a ikokobetsa Mr Speaker, procedure.

MR SPEAKER: Presentation of a Government Bill.

First Reading PRESENTATION OF A GOVERNMENT BILL The following Bill was presented and read a first time.

SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION (2020/2021) BILL, 2022 (NO.
4 OF 2022) (Minister of Finance and Economic Development) Second Reading- Later Date.

MR SPEAKER: Have a wonderful afternoon Honourable Minister.

Thank you madam.

ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) ORGANISATION 2200 – MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (Resumed Debate) MR CHAIRPERSON (MR MOATLHODI): Order!

Order!
Order!

The debate on this Bill is resuming, when the House adjourned yesterday, Honourable Makwinja was on the floor debating and she is left with eight minutes 50 seconds.

Honourable Assistant Minister of Basic Education, please take your floor.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MS MAKWINJA): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson, and good afternoon.

Good afternoon batlotlegi.

Ke ne ke eme ka gore ke ema Tona nokeng mo kopong ya gagwe Mr Chairperson.
Ke na le banana ba le bantsi thata mo kgaolong ya me, plus or minus 25 000, ba e leng gore bontsi jwa bone ga ba na ditiro.

Mr Chairperson, o ka bona mathata a ke tshwaraganeng le one.

Mathata a a rotloediwa ke dilo di le mmalwa, selo santlha ke ditsela Mr Chairperson, jaaka mo bekeng e e fetileng mo malatsing a mabedi, boradikhombi go ne go sa kgonege gore ba tsise batho mo ditirong mo Gaborone.
Fa go ntse jalo, o ka bona gore tota ke mogwebi ofe yo o ka batlang go ya go bula dikgwebo mo kgaolong e e ntseng jalo.

Selo sa bobedi ke lefatshe Mr Chairperson.

Mo magaeng a a borobabongwe, a mararo mo go one e le a matonatona, ga gona ditsha tsa industrial; ke kwa Kopong fela kwa go nang le ditsha.

Le gone go baya banana ke mathata Mr Chairperson, mo e leng gore bana ka bontsi ba ba lekang, ba mo matlong.

Ga re itse gore mathata ke eng.


Infrastructure mo kgaolong ya me, tota e baya banana gammogo le batho tota mo mosing.

Jaanong ke kopa Tona gore ka bonnyennyane jo a bo filweng jo, a ko a leke go kopana le Matona a mangwe a a amegang gore ba leke go thusa gore tota mathata a betsho, re ka a kgona jang.

E nngwe gape e e ka thusang Tona ke gore lenaneo la banana kana mananeo a a re a sekasekeng, re leke go dira cooperatives.
A ba ofisi ya gago, ba thuse to mobilise banana ka gore mathata a mangwe ke gore banana ba tlhoka kitso.

Honourable Buti Billy o ne a na le nna mo bekeng e e fetileng, fa re ile kwa kgaolong nngwe ya me, e le gore banana ba tletse e bile pula e ne e na, mme botlhe fela go sena le yo o nang le kitso gore gatwe jang le jang.

Mo go rayang gore tota fa ba ne ba ka nna le kitso, gongwe sengwe se ka diragala.
12 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Sa bobedi ke gore re nna re bua ka value chains, re ntse re bua ka a huge import bill; madi a a tswang a duela dithoto tse di tswang kwa ntle.
Fa cooperatives le dilo tse di ne di ka batliwa ga dirwa analysis le business cases, banana ba dira cooperatives, ba dira dilo tse re di tsayang kwa mafatsheng, e seng jalo fela, value chains tsa temothuo le bojanala, ga ke bone gore re ka bo re le mo mathateng a a ntseng jaana.

Mr Chairperson, banana ke sefatlhego sa lefatshe; they are the social fabric of our society.
Banana ke mirror wa rona re le Batswana, mme mathata a a ba lebaganeng a ditagi, go nwa phetelela, le botlhokatsebe, re bona mo dikoleng le mo metseng gore go diragala jang.

E tlile nako ya gore banana, tota dikole tsa rona di rute traditions tsa Botswana gore re tswa kae, re ya kae, e seng jalo ba tlaabo ba reetsa bone baagisanyi ba rona ba o tlaa fitlhelang ba bua dilo fela tse di duleng mo tseleng.

Kana banana fa ba tsaya dilo tse ba re ahe!


golo fa re dirisiwa ke mafatshe a mangwe, le rona a re batle a mangwe re tle re kgone go lwa ntwa e sentle, re bo re iphitlhela re le bo Ukraine le bo Russia teng ka koo.

Jaanong go botlhokwa gore traditions tsa rona, history ya rona le sengwe le sengwe se se ka agang monana gore a ikitse gore ke Motswana, dilo tse Mr Chairperson, re di dire.
They are very vulnerable kana go motlhofo gore o ba tsietse, o ba aketse ka gore ga go na gope kwa ba kopanang le gore Mapharangwane e rile a tlaa a agiwa kana go dirilwe eng fela sa history, se dirilwe jang le gore re tswa kae fela tota re le Batswana.

Dilo tse di a tlhokafala gore di age Motswana, re tle re ikitse gore re bomang, re nne le yone tshono to be proud and to be patriotic about our country.

Se sengwe ke youth and health.


Mr Chairperson, banana ba rona, dipalo di ile kwa godimo thata of the new infections; 44 per cent to 45 per cent ke banana go ya kwa godimo, mme re a itse gore re ne re dirile bontle thatathata mo HIV/AIDS.

Mo go rayang gore dikgwetlho tse banana ba kopanang le tsone, a e ka nna tsa kwa lelwapeng ka gore most of these youths jaaka ke ne ke bua maloba, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore ba tswa mo malwapeng a e leng gore ga a itsholela go le kae; single- headed households.
Re bo re gakgamala fa banana ba tsena mo drugs, ba rekisa, ba a nwa bojalwa phetelela go nna tlhakatlhakano.

Nako e tlile Mr Chairperson, gore Tona Rakgare le Mothusa Tona Billy, kgang e re e sale morago, re bone gore tota re ka dira jang go fetola botshelo jwa banana.

Fa ke le foo Mr Chairperson… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MS MAKWINJA: Mr Chairperson, go na le modumo o o sa ntseyeng sentle ka kwano.
Dilo tsa climate change, go na le opportunities tse dintsintsi tse re ka kgonang go tsaya banana ka cooperatives; local economy, ra ba tsenya mo ditirong tsa climate change.

Go na le Green Climate Fund which is open; leswe le le tletseng mo, banana can be mobilised ba dira cooperatives.

Ke ne ke bua maloba Mr Chairperson gore kwa bo Kenya, mafatshe a bone a bereka ka cooperatives.
Re na le bodiredi, o ya kwa Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA), Local Enterprise Authority (LEA) le kwa bananeng, go na le bodiredi jo bo ka thusang.

A re kopaneng, re bereke as a team and analyse import bill, re tle ka value chains gore bana ba tsene mo dikoporaseng, ba itirele ditiro.

Ga go ka ke ga nna le banana ba ba sokolang jaana jaaka re sokola.
Ke a itse gore ke tlhola ke bua gore fa o ka tsamaya mo diseterateng tsa Gaborone, go na le bo carpentry, mme banana ba ba tswang kwa ntle, ke bone ba renang mo ditoropong mo ba rekisa.

Ra reng ka banana ba rona; skills development Honourable Shamukuni le Honourable Letsholathebe?

Re dira eng ka brigades tse e leng gore they are so underutilised gompieno gore banana ba should be mobilised ba tsene mo, ba neelwe skills mme e nne bone ba ye go tsamaisa (run) the local economies.
Tota Mr Chairperson, ga re a tshwanela gore re ka bo re le mo seemong se se ntseng jaana.

Ga re kgone to mobilise le go thusa bana ba rona gore ba tsene mo dikgwebong, ba tle ba ithuse, ba thuse le malwapa a bone gore social ills tse di kanakana tsa nnotagi, di fokotsege gore bana ba rona kwa dikoleng, ba kgone go fetsa sekole.

Gompieno jaana, re na le thousands and thousands ba ba duleng mo Form 3 le Form 5 and they are in the streets.

Go ya go diragala eng ka bone?


They join ba ba ntseng ba le teng… HONOURABLE MEMBER: E a pala Domkrag, o a e bona?

MS MAKWINJA: Ga e palelwe Rre Ramogapi.

Ke batla go go baakanyetsa, ke rona re palelwang ke tiro e seng Domkrag.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go palelwa wena?

MS MAKWINJA: Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson.

Thank you.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much Honourable Minister.

Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Selebi Phikwe Bophirima.


13 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) HONOURABLE MEMBER: O nneetse slot seo Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: You are the Acting Leader of the Opposition (LOO); I have all the grounds to agree with you My Lord.

Please, go ahead Honourable LOO.

a (BOBONONG): Ke MR LUCAS leboga Modulasetilo.


Ke simolole fela ke supe gore ke nnete se Mapalamente ba bangwe ba se buang, gore banana ke bone ba bantsi mo bathong ba ba sa hirwang.

Ke nnete, rotlhe re tlile go bua jalo, mme se se supafalang ke gore go tlile go nna jalo ka lebaka le leleele ka gore ga go na thulaganyo epe e o e bonang, e e tlhoafetseng e e ka kgonang go hira banana.

Khiro ya banana e tsamaelana le itsholelo le boalo jwa yone.
Fa boalo jwa itsholelo ya rona bo santse bo ntse jaaka bo ntse, e bile go sena tsholofelo ya gore boalo jo bo tla nna bophara mo nakong e khutshwane, go raya gore banana ba tlile go oketsega ba ba sa hirwang mo nakong jaaka e ntse e tsamaela kwa pele.

Tharabololo e tona e tswa mo go reng bophara jwa itsholelo ya rona bo atolosiwe, mme ke gone fa re ka kgonang go hira banana e seng jalo, re tlile go tswelela fela jalo.
Fa re ntse re emetse go ghalela babeeletsi ba ba tswang kwa mafatsheng a sele, re akanya gore ba tlaa tla ba hira banana ba rona kwano, ga re ka ke ra kgona.

Gone moo ke kgang e re tshwanetseng go itebaganya le yone.

Se sengwe ke gore banana ba rona, fa o tsaya batho ba ba hirilweng, mme ba amogela madi a e leng gore ga a tsamaelane le tiro e ba e dirang, batho ba ba under- employed, bontsi jwa bone batho ba mofuta one oo ke banana.
Fa o tsaya banana ba ba berekang as Interns ba ba amogelang madi a P1,300, bangwe ba na le Degree gone moo, go go supegetsa fela gore nnyaa, mme banana jaanong ba bereka ditiro tse ba amogelang madi a a sa tsamaelaneng le tsone.

Fa o tsaya thulaganyo ya Tirelo Setšhaba, go supa fela jalo.

Go a tlhokafala gore banana ba ba berekang, ba neelwe dituelo tse di tsamaelaneng le skills le qualifications tsa bone kana dikitso tsa bone.
Fa go santse go ntse jaaka go ntse jaana, banana ba tlaa tswelela ba balelwa mo bathong ba ba mo lehumeng mo lefatsheng la Botswana.

Go botlhokwa thata gore Honourable Rakgare, madi a Internship le Tirelo Sechaba a okediwe, a tsamaelane le seemo sa botshelo mo lefatsheng la rona.

Fa re sa dire jalo go raya gore, banana ba rona ba tlaa tswelela ba le mo lehumeng.

Go a supafala gore banana ba bantsi ba mo lehumeng, e bile jaanong o kare ba tsenwa ke boitlhobogo.
Bangwe ba bone ba lebega ba šhakgetse thata, ka gore ba mo 14 tlaleng e e boitshegang.

Boturu jwa botshelo bo ba babaletse go feta mongwe le mongwe mo lefatsheng le.

Kgang e e tshwanetse gore e nne nngwe ya tse o di salang morago rraetsho, ya go fokotsa lehuma mo bananeng.

Kgang ya go tlhoka lefatshe, Mma Makwinja ke nnete banana ba bantsi ba ba fa gare ga dingwaga tsa 18 to 30 ga ba na lefatshe la bonno, le ba ka lemang mo go lone kgotsa le ba ka direlang kgwebo mo go lone.
Banana bao sa bone ke tshokolo fela, ba kgorotlhane mo malwapeng le batsadi ba bone, ga gona kwa ba ka lemang teng fa ba batla go lema.

Fa ba batla go dira dikgwebo, le gone ga gona kwa ba ka di direlang teng.

Fa ba dira dikgwebo go raya gore ba bo ba adima lefatshe, ba duela rents tse di gakgamatsang.

Moo ka bogone go felela go digile dikgwebo tsa bone.
Rraetsho Tona, gongwe ke nako ya gore jaanong le wena o bue le ba ministry o o amegang, gore banana ba neelwe preferential treatment fa go tsena mo go abiweng ga lefatshe, ka gore mo bogompienong fa gotwe go a dirwa, go loleya fela ga go a tlhwaafala mo motho a ka go eletsang.

Banana ba bantsi ba ba itshupileng tota gore ba ka dira dikgwebo, go supafala gore jaanong go tlhoka lefatshe moo go dira gore ba palelwe ke go dira dikgwebo tseo.
Fa re lebelela ya Youth Development Fund (YDF), e e lekang go tsenya banana mo dikgwebong, re na le bothata jo botona le yone, ka gore bontsi jwa nako banana ba neelwa madi a gantsi a sa lekaneng projects tse ba batlang go di dira, bogolo jang fa e le projects tse di botlhalenyana tse di kgolwanenyana.

Go nna thata gore ba dirise madi ao, gore ba tle ba kgone go bona dipoelo tse di rileng mo dikgwebong tsa bone.
Gape fa e le gore monana o dira sentle mo kgwebong, go tsaya lebaka e bile go nna mogogamoleele gore a kgone go bona madi a gore a oketse kgwebo ya gagwe.

Mentoring o re o tlhokang mo dikgwebong tsa banana, ga re o bone.

Banana ba ba itshimololetseng dikgwebo ka bonosi fela ba re nnyaa ke simolola kgwebo a sa thusiwe ke YDF, bontsi jwa bone fa ba setse ba batla go thusiwa ka madi a YDF ga go ke go nna bonolo.
Banana bao mme kana ke bone ba ba itshupileng gore ba ka kgona dikgwebo le fa e le gore gongwe ba ne ba ise ba thusiwe la ntlha.

Fa re bona banana ba supa gore ba na le boitseanape jwa go dira kgwebo, re tshwanetse ra ba itlhaganelela go godisa dikgwebo tsa bone, ka go ba thusa ka madi a YDF le go bona dithuso kwa makalaneng a mangwe a a ka ba thusang a tshwana le CEDA le National Development Bank (NDB).
Go botlhokwa thata gore dinako tsotlhe re bo re tshegeditse banana, re le gaufi le bone re ba neela thotloetso e ba e tlhokang.

Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Fa o tsamaya mo dikgaolong tsa rona o re o lebelela diofisi tsa banana, youth offices, o bona batho fela ba ba emetseng round e e latelang ya applications tsa YDF.
Fa e le go thusa banana gore ka dinako tsotlhe banana ba ba kgone go tsena mo dikgwebong ka botlalo, nnyaa, ga go lebege go ntse jalo.

Le boitseanape jwa bone ba ba hirilweng mo diofising, youth officers around the country, bontsi jwa bone ga ba lebege ba na le kitso e e lekaneng ya go ka thusa banana ba.

Go a tlhokafala Rraetsho Rakgare gore, le hire batho ba ba nang le boitseanape jo bo tseneletseng mo dikgannyeng tsa dikgwebo, ba tle ba kgone go thusa banana ba.
Bangwe ba bone o fitlhela o bona gore motho yo o golegilwe fela fa gotwe a dire dikgang tse di tsamaelanang le kgwebo, ke dikgole fela mo go ene.

Gape fa o re o a lebelela mo dikgannyeng tse dingwe tsa mananeo a Puso a a farologaneng, say for instance a a tshwanang kwa Agriculture, banana ke bone ba o fitlhelang ba le bantsi in queues tsa go folela mananeo.

O fitlhela lenaneo le tshwana la Livestock Management and Infrastructure Development (LIMID), banana ba le bantsi ba le foletse.
Kwa kgaolong ya Bobirwa, lenaneo le la go phakisa dipodi, banana ba le bantsi ba sale ba le emetse ka tsholofelo, bangwe ba bone ba na le four years ba ntse ba emetse mananeo ao.

Ee, ke lenaneo kwa Agriculture, o ipotsa gore mme ba Youth ba fa kae go buelela banana gore gongwe ba neelwe thuso e e ba tshwanelang.
Fa o tsaya mananeo a tshwana a go teratelela masimo, ba se kaenyana banana ba ba nang le masimo, fa ba tshwanetse gore ba teratele masimo ao go nna thata, ka gore ga ba kgone go nna le contribution e e tlhokwang.

Fa gotwe go tlhokwa contribution ya 50 per cent, go raya gore ba ba kgonang go nna le contribution ya 50 per cent, ke batho ba ba berekang e bile ba le batona.

Fa e le banana ba ba tlhokang gore ba thusiwe, bontsi jwa bone ga ba na contribution ya 50 per cent.
Fa re bua ka mananeo a tshwana le Integrated Support Programme for Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD) Horticulture, a le one a tlhokang gore o nne le seabe o le monana le contribution e o e dirang, bontsi jwa banana ba eletsa gore ba ka tsena mo mananeong a Honourable Rakgare, mme ba paledisiwa ke gore 50 per cent ga a yo, ka gore re ntse re bua gape ka gore banana bontsi jwa bone ga ba bereke, ba tsaya kae contribution eo.
A ga go ka ke ga nna le thulaganyo e e faphegileng gore mo mananeong a a farologaneng a Puso, go nne le gore jaanong banana ga ba tlhoke contribution e e lekanang le ya bagolo, e bile bogolo jang bagolo ba ba berekang ba ba nang le ditsompelo tse ka tsone ba ka kgonang gore ba kgone go rekolola mananeo ao.

So mananeo o fitlhela jaanong a thusa babereki ba Puso, ba bone ba kgonang go tsaya loans le bagolo ba ba kgonang go rekisa dikgomo ba ntsha contribution.
Mo ka bogone go tshwanetse gore go go tshwenye Rre Rakgare, mo thulaganyong ya go thusa banana.

Se re se bonang gape ke gore, banana fa o ba lebile bontsi jwa bone ka letlhoko la ditiro, ka lone letlhoko la lefatshe, tshotlego le lehuma tse di kana, bontsi jwa banana jaanong ba tshabelelwa ke malwetse a tlhaloganyo.

Bontsi jwa bone ba tshabelelwa ke depression, ke gore go kotomela ga maikutlo mo go feteletseng.

Fa ba kotometse maikutlo jalo, bangwe ba bone commit suicide.
Ga gona thulaganyo epe fela e e tlhwaafetseng ya rehabilitation services, e e ka thusang banana mo dikgaolong di tshwana tsa rona tsa Bobirwa, ga gona rehabilitation centre teng e e ka thusang banana gore ba itebaganye le bothata jwa depression, go tlhakatlhakana ga maikutlo, kgotsa go lwala bolwetse jwa tlhaloganyo go dirwa ke gore o na le kgatelelo e tona ya itsholelo le lehuma le le tseneletseng.
Ga gona rehabilitation centres, re kile ra bolelelwa ra ba ra solofetswa gore alcohol levy, e e neng ya buiwa thata ka boleele, e tlaa thusa go aga rehabilitation centres, mme le rona bojalwa re a bo nwa kwa Bobirwa, mme jaanong ga re bone rehabilitation centres tsa banana di nna teng, tse di dirwang ka alcohol levy e. Ke dilo tse Motlotlegi Rakgare, o tshwanetseng go di emela ka dinao.
O di emele ka dinao fela thata gore banana ba rona le bone ba kgone go akola itsholelo ya bone, ba kgone go akola lefatshe la bone, gona le gore bontsi jwa bone ba bo ba tshelela mo tšhakgalong e e kanakana.

Many of our young people are very hungry and they are getting angry by the day, that is why o fitlhela bangwe ba bone le mo dipineng fela fa ba opela malatsia, o a utlwa gore dipina tse ke tsa tšhakgalo, gongwe le atle le reetse dingwe dipina tsa bone.
Dipina tsa bone ke tsa tšhakgalo, tse di supang gore ga ba a itumela go nna Batswana gotlhelele.

I think it is time now Motlotlegi Rakgare, re dira mananeo a go thusa banana gore le bone ba itumelele go nna Batswana, ka gore fa re ka nna le banana ba sa itumelela go nna Batswana, moo ka bogone ga go a re siamela re le lefatshe.

Go na le banana ba le bantsi ba ba tshelang ka bogole.
Banana bao le bone ba tlhoka thuso ya lona, e bile bone ba batla thuso e e faphegileng, ka gore sa ntlha ke banana, sa bobedi ke banalebogole.
Bontsi jwa bone ba ba batlang go dira dikgwebo, ba a sokola ka gore ba tlaabo ba re ba ya go batla thuso kwa YDF, ba fitlhela ba tsewa fela jaaka mongwe le mongwe, ga ba tlhaolwe ka 15 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) go lemoga gore gongwe ba na le bothata jwa go tshela ka bogole.
Thusang banana ba batho betsho, le bone ba tle ba kgone go tshela botshelo jo bo itumedisang, ba age malwapa le bone ba nne le boitumelo.

Ke a leboga.

OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MS MONNAKGOTLA): Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Ke go lebogela sebaka se.

Ke simolole ka gore Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development ke lephata le le tshwereng matshelo a Batswana, bogolo jang banana le badiragatsi.
Ka jalo go maleba gore ke eme kopo e ya ga Tona nokeng, gore dikopo tsa banana ba ba batlang go simolola dikgwebo di atlege.

Mr Chairperson, ke batla go simolola ka go akgola setlhopha sa kgwele ya dinao sa basetsana, senior national team, go bo ba iponetse phatlha kwa Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON).

Gape ke leboge le mmabontle wa rona Palesa Molefe, jaaka a ne a le kwa Top 12.
Mr Chairperson, e ke tiro e tona go bona bana ba ba le kwa pele, e bile ba rekisa lefatshe la Botswana, jaaka bomme ba senior national team ya football ba ya go tshameka kwa AFCON.

Ke la ntlha, mme ke solofela gore ba santse ba tlile go dira bontle.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Elucidation.

Ke gakolole fela gore thulaganyo e ya kgwele ya dinao ya bomme, e rile lantlha re e bona e rotloediwa ka matshwititshwiti a millions, e ne e le contribution ya gago Mma Monnakgotla ka AT&T Transport.
O ba ntshetsa sponsorship se se utlwalang, so, le wena re go akgole mo contribution ya gago gore e bo ba gorogile kwa ba leng teng.

I thank you.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Healy.

Ke nnete go ntse jalo.

Ke ne ke eme ka dinao.

Tona, metshameko ke selo se se botlhokwa fela thata mo matshelong a batho le mo itsholelong ya lefatshe.

Ka jalo, go botlhokwa gore ministry o tsenye madi a mantsi mo go tlhabololeng metshameko bogolo jang kwa dikgaolong tse di kgakala le ditlamelo.
E re kamoso re bo re bona batshameki ba rona ba le tlhwatlhwa.

Ke batla go bona programme ya Re Ba Bona Fa e tsena kwa dikgaolong tsa rona, kwa tengnyanateng.

Programme e, ke e e batlang talents tsa bana.

Ke itse gore kwa Kgalagadi North; Zutswa le Ngwatle, ke na le bana ba ba nang le ditalente.

Ke batla go bona programme eo kwa Kgalagadi North.

Banana ba kgaolo ya Kgalagadi North ba na le talente e ntsi fela thata.

E tlhokana le ditsompelo; ke bua ka sports complex.
Jaaka 16 o bona gompieno jaana, team ya rona ya Kgalagadi North, Motaung Young Fighters e e kwa Kang, e le mo Debswana First Division South.

Ke sone se o bonang ke re Tona, lebelela Kgalagadi North.

Re na le talente, re kopa sports complex.

Tona, I support kopo ya gago fela thata.

Dikgaisanyo tsa ga Tautona le tsone fela jalo, re kopa di simolole.

Ditlhopha tsa badiragatsi tse di kgakala le ditlamelo jaaka Make, Inalegolo, Kereng, Lepashe, Kanaku, le bone ba tle ba obe letsogo.
Bagaetsho, badiragatsi ba tshela ka dilo tse.

Fa ke tsena mo go tsa YDF; ke bua ka kgaolo ya Kgalagadi North, go na le bana ba ba mo letlhokong la ditiro.

E bile fa ke lebelela mo dikopong tsa bone tsa ngwaga wa 2021/2022, ba ne ba le bantsi.

Go ne go ikopetse bana ba le 155, mme go bone only 15.

Ke a kopa Tona gore kwa lephateng la gago o bereke le maphata a mangwe.

O bereke le Lephata la Local Government and Rural Development le Lephata la Trade.
Ke bua jaana ka gore, kwa Local Government re na le bana ba ka phakisang mae kwa dikoleng.

Bana gompieno jaana ba ka apaya borotho, ba sega uniform.

A ke ba bone ba le mo dikgwebong tseo.

Ke a itse gore bana ba tlhokana le lefatshe, mme selo se le sone ke tlaa se bua le Tona Mzwinila gore a re fe.

Bana ba dire poultry.

Le wena fela jalo ka gore o tlaabo o bereka le maphata a mangwe.

YDF ga go na fa e ka palelwang teng ka gore bana ba go tlaabo go duela Puso.
Le wena o tlaabo o duelwa sentle ka gore tenders tsa borotho tsa primary, tsa uniform le mae, di tshwanetse banana ka gore ga ba na ditiro.

Jaanong e lebelele sentle gore re tle re bereke mmogo, re ye golo gongwe.

Tona, mma ke leboge lephata la gago kwa Kgalagadi North kwa Hukuntsi.

Bana bale ba a bereka, e bile ba itse gore ba na le metsana ya settlements e ba e berekang.

Ke ba kopela dikoloi gore ba kgone go kanoka le go lebelela projects tsa gago tsa YDF.
Ga ba na dikoloi kwa kgaolong ele, ba a sokola.

Mma ke tsene mo lenaneong la Internship.

Lenaneo le, le le ntle, e bile re a le rata re le Batswana.

Le dira ngwana go nna ready for the market.

Le dira gore e re kamoso ngwana fa a setse a ya go bereka, a bo a itse gore o tshwanetse a dire eng.

Fela jaaka re itse gore mafatshe a mangwe jaaka America, ba na le mo gotweng maPeace Corps, ba tla kwano ba tla go ithuta tiro.

Fa ba boela kwa ba feta ba hirwa.


Ba setse ba le ready for the market, mme ke tiro e ntle.

Tona, e lebelele ka gore bana ba ba a bereka le fa Palamenteng fa go rona.

Kwa Kgalagadi North, bana bale ba a bereka rra.

O lebelele Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) seemo sa bone sa gompieno sa botshelo.
Madi ale a mannyennyane, oketsa lentswana ka gore gompieno ditlhwatlhwa di ile kwa godimo.

Ke tlaa tsena mo go e nngwe gape ya gore, lebelela gore bana ba bua le meepo.

Go na le ditiro le tenders kwa meepong.

A re utlwe Debswana e re bolelela gore ke na le bana ba le kana ba ba dirang tiro le ba ba dirang tenders.

Re batla go bona bana kwa meepong.

Ga re a re bana ba tshwanetse gore ba bone tiro mo Pusong, ba ka dira.

Tona, ke simolotse kgwebo ya me ke le 27 years.


Ke sure ka gore bana ba ba ka itirela dikgwebo.

Selo se gotweng kgwebo fa o se tlhokomela o le monana, you can go far.

A re tsenye leitlho mo go bone.

Ke go lebogele gore o tsentse Lephata la Arts and Culture, le e leng gore kwa kgaolong ya me, le ya go mperekela Tona.

Ke na le badiragatsi ba bantsi fela jaaka le wena o ne o ile Dubai o tsamaile le modiragatsi wa me yo gotweng Kaki.
O tswa kwa settlement e gotweng Ngwatle, a rekisa dilo tse dintle, mme ke go lebogele dilo tseo.

MR LEUWE: Clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Thank you honourable.

Ke ne ke re e re fa o ntse o feta ka tsa YDF, o leke go tlhalosa thata gore banana mo gongwe o fitlhela ba gaisana le businessmen, jaanong go sa nne sentle.

Fa gongwe monana o nna le proposal e ntle e e siameng, e bo e ganwa.

The next thing re bo re ya go e bona jaanong e dirilwe ke yo mongwe yo o gaufi le batho bao.
Tona a ele selo seo tlhoko thata.

Se a bereka kwa dikgaolong tse dingwe.

Ke a leboga.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: O e buile bontle motlotlegi ka gore golo moo go gontsi bogolo jang kwa dikgaolong.

A Tona a lebelele bogolo jang YDF.

O ka bereka le maphata a mangwe, bogolo jang poverty eradication.

Dilo tse ba di lemoge bogolo jang mo kgwebong, gore di ka isa banana golo gongwe.
A re lebelele gore fa re bereka le maphata a mangwe, jaaka applications gotwe di ne di le 155 Tona, mme ... MR CHAIRPERSON: Nako e go siile Motlotlegi Mmaetsho Tona.

Ka tlotlo le tlhompho, nako ya ga Mmaetsho Tona, e fedile.

We are now going to have ... MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Ke ema kopo ya ga Tona nokeng.

Ke a leboga.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable Minister.


We are now going to have another submission from the Honourable Assistant Minister responsible for Local Government and Rural Development, precisely Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Mochudi East, Rraagwe Neo, o kae Mokgatla?

OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR PULE): Thank you Modulasetilo.

Thank you Rra Nkamo.

Thank you the Bold and the Beautiful.


Ke a leboga mongwame go bo o mphile sebaka sa gore le nna ke akgele mo letsatsing la gompieno.

Ke batla go simolola fela ka go akgola Tona Rakgare ka gore e rile mo ngwageng o o fetileng, I personally wrote him a letter from my office ke mo laletsa kwa kgaolong, mme a tla le fa mosepele wa rona o ne wa kgaupediwa ke pitso e e neng ya nna teng ya tshoganetso mo Gaborone, re bo re boa re sa fetsa mosepele.
Ke santse ke na le tumelo e e tletseng Modulasetilo gore nna le Tona Rakgare re tlile go ya gape kwa Kgatleng gore a ye go bona gore go diragala eng, bogolo jang mo kgaolong ya Mochudi East.

Ke letse ke kgatlhilwe thata ke Tona fa a bula mafoko a gagwe.

O ne a tlhalosa gore kana banana mo lefatsheng ka bophara make a larger percentage ya the population, around 50 and 60 per cent of the world population.

Le mo Botswana go ntse fela jalo.


Mo go rayang gore tota fa banana ba nna le mathata, a ama lefatshe ka bophara ka gore tota ke bone batho ba re beileng mo go bone.

They are our future investment.

Re tshwanetse gore fa re batla gore re nne lefatshe le le nang le good governance, we must look after young people ka tsotlhe tse re ka kgonamg ka tsone jaaka mo thutong, ditiro, botsogo le tse dingwe tse di farologanyeng.
Mo go rayang gore ke dumalana le Tona gore there is need for a youth empowerment, youth employment and poverty reduction mo gare ga banana.

Re tshwanetse gore re fokotse diritibatsi mo bananeng re bo re lwantshe HIV/AIDS.

Ke tsaya gore Goromente wa Botswana o na le mananeo a a lekang go dira jalo ka botlalo.

Gongwe ka mokgwa mongwe a padisiwa ke gore rona badiragatsi ba mananeo ao, ga re a diragatse ka fa go tshwanetseng go nne ka teng.
Re na le lenaneo la YDF le ke itseng gore kwa Kgatleng le teng le fa golo gongwe fale le fale banana ba ba neetsweng madi a teng ba bangwe ba sa a duele.

Jaanong go dira jalo go kganela ba bangwe ba ba batlang go tsaya mananeo.
Ke na le tshepho e e tletseng ka gore ke bone Tona personally a bua le banana a ba raya a re, “duelang madi gore ba bangwe ba tle ba kgone go a dirisa ka gore fa le sa a duele, ga re kgone go adima ba bangwe.” Go bo go raya gore ga re kgone go oketsa ditiro mo dikgaolong tsa rona ka gore maikaelelo a a mananeo a a tshwanang le YDF, ke go direla banana ditiro gore le bone ba direle banana ba bangwe ditiro, ba hire ba bangwe.

Jaanong fa ba sa duele, golo moo go a pala.


17 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Re ne la mananeo a tshwana le bo LIMID le Poverty Eradication.

Fa re ka diragatsa mananeo a ka go tsamaelana jaaka Tona Monnakgotla a ne a bua, re a diragatsa sentle, a tlaa re isa golo gongwe.
Ke tlhalose fela gore boammaaruri jo bo leng teng ke gore mananeo a tota re tshwanetse gore re a kopanele re le maphata a a farologanyeng jaaka Tona Monnakgotla a ne a bua ka gore Maphata a Temothuo, Trade, Finance and Environment, ke maphata a a tshwanetseng go kopana le Local Government and Rural Development re bone gore tota re ka dira jang gore re thuse banana re le seopo sengwe.
Re dike kana re dirise mananeo a a leng teng kwa maphateng a rona go bona gore a dirisiwa ke banana as investment programmes tse di tlaa fokotsang go tlhoka ditiro le letlhoko mo dikgaolong jaaka re na le mananeo a mangwe a a tshwanang le a bo CEDA a a teng re a itse, bo LEA le a mangwe.
Mo godimo ga moo Modulasetilo, ke ne ke eletsa thata e kete banana ba ka re fa e leng gore gongwe ga re kgone go ba direla ditiro teng mo metseng ya rona ka go farologana, bogolo jang kwa Mochudi East, re nne le recreational facilities tse di ka dirwang.

Fa o ka lebelela Kgatleng ka bophara, ga re na mafelo a itloso bodutu.

Ga re na dilo tse di ka dirang gore banana ba ye go itia teng while they are still looking for jobs.

Ga di yo mo kgaolong yotlhe ya Kgatleng.

Go utlwisa botlhoko Tona Rakgare.


Ke na le tumelo e e tletseng ya gore fa ke wetsa mosepele wa me nna le wena, ke tlaa tsamaya ke go bontsha fa banana ba leng teng, fa re tlhokang gore re ba direle recreational facilities teng.

Gompieno fa ke bua le wena jaana, go na le rre mongwe o itikile thata kwa motseng wa Ramonaka kwa kgaolong ya me o aga stadium.

Rre yo o o bidiwa Matlhomola Mpete yo le ba Botswana Football Association (BFA) ba itseng ka ga ene.
Ke re batho ba ba tshwanang le bao ba ba itekang ba ba batlang go dira recreational facilities for young people, they should be assisted by Government, especially your department go ya go bona gore ba dira eng le go akanya gore ba ka engwa nokeng ka mokgwa o o ntseng jang.

Fa re sa dire jalo, re tlile go felela re na le mathata a gore banana ba felela jaanong ba tsene mo diritibatsing le majwalwa ka gore ga ba itse gore ba tshwanetse go dira eng.
Kana Sekgoa sa re, “keep them busy to make them poor.” What that means is that when you keep banana busy ka recreational facilities, o ba emisitse gore ba se ka ba akanya dilo tse di duleng mo tseleng tse di bidiwang gotwe delinquency e e leng gore re a itse gore banana fa go sena se ba se dirang, ba ka kgona gore ba akanye dilo tse di rileng.

Ke kgatlhilwe ke mafoko a ga Rre Lucas.


Ke itse gore gantsi nna le ene re a tsamaelana ka gore re ithutile dithuto dingwe tsa Social Work tsa gore… tota banana fa ba nang le mathata teng, we also need psychosocial support programmes tse di nnang teng kwa dikgaolong tsa rona.

Sa bofelo se ke neng ke batla go bua ka sone wena Tona ke gore kana gore banana ba kgone gore ba dire dikgwebo ka botlalo ba itshetse ba tswelele, ke gore re bo re tokafatsa infrastructure ya rona jaaka ditsela.
Gompieno jaana kwa kgaolong ya Mochudi East re tshwere bothata, ga rena ditsela, tse di leng teng di senyegile.

Le fa banana ba re ba dira businesses, they still spend a lot of money go rekisa dilo tsa bone kwa dimmarakeng tse di tshwanang le tsa Gaborone.
Go tlhomola pelo ka gore fa o lebelela kgaolo e tshwana le ya Kgatleng, bogolo jang Mochudi East, e gaufi le Gaborone mo e leng gore gompieno jaana dilo tse di tshwanang le tsa bo tourism… Ditsela tse di tshwanang le tsa bo Modipane-Mabalane, Mokatse-Radikole, Dikwididi-Mochudi le Oliphant’s Drift, ke tsone tse di tshwanetseng go tlhabololwa.
Jaanong ke ne ke go kopa Tona gore mananeo a fa o a neela banana, o nthuse boTona ba ba tshwanang le ba transport gore re buisane le bone gore ba re agele ditsela gore projects tsa gago tse banana ba di dirisang, ba kgone gore di ye golo gongwe.

Boammaaruri ke gore profits tse ba di dirang ga ba kgone go fitlhelela gope ka tsone ka gore they spend madi a mantsi go ya kwa di mmarakeng, ba dikologa ditsela tse di sa siamang.
Ke sone se ke neng ke re ke ne ke eletsa e kete o ka diragatsa mogopolo wa ga Motlotlegi Monnakgotla wa gore a re berekeng re le maphata a a farologanyeng, re dike mathata a a lebaganeng banana re le seopo sengwe, re itse gore re batla go goroga golo gongwe.

Re bone gore re ka dira jang gore projects tsa banana di fitlhelele kwa re batlang di ya teng ka gore fa re sa dire jalo, ga rena go kgona.

Ke dilo tse ke neng ke ratile gore ke di bue rraetsho.

Ga ke batle go ya lololo, ke a go leboga rraetsho.


You are doing your best mme e bile ke leboga Tautona wa rona gore a bo a tsere monana yo o tshwanang le wena a mo dira Minister ka gore o a itse gore wena ke wena o ka tlhaloganyang manokonoko le mathata a banana ba nang le one.

Ke re ka mafoko a a kalo Modulasetilo, ke ema nokeng Tona mo mading a a kopang mme e bile e ka re mo nakong e e tlang madi fa a ka bonala a okelediwa.

Ke a leboga Modulasetilo.


18 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) MR BOKO (MAHALAPYE EAST): Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Mr Chairperson, dikgang tsa rona ga di ditelele.

Maabane re ne re reeditse Motlotlegi Tona fa a bua mo dikgannyeng tsa banana.

Ke mo ema nokeng Mr Chairperson gore a fiwe lemme le a le kopileng go ka araba dilelo le maima a a leng teng mo dikgannyeng tsa youth.
Mr Chairperson, ke bete se molangwana ka dilo gongwe di le pedi kana tharo mo dikgannyeng tsa banana gore o kare re kgona go felela re ntsha madi re a ntshetsa dilo tse di amang lone Lephata le la Banana mme re le Puso re bo re sa kgone go ka di sala morago go ka bona sentle gore a mme madi a a dirisiwa mo go sone se se tshwanetseng gore a bo a ka dirisiwa mo go sone.
Mo nakong e e fetileng, komiti e ke e eteletseng pele ya banana e ne ya ralela lefatshe ka bophara, Honourable Healy, o ka ntshupela gareng ga ba bangwe.

E leka go ya go bona gore a mme projects tsa banana di salwa morago, morago ga gore banana ba thusiwe ka madi.

Go a lebega gore Mr Chairperson, ba neelwa madi, mme ga re sale morago go bona gore a di tsamaya sentle ka fa di tshwanetseng go tsamaya ka teng.

Go bo go supa gore go raya gore go nna le go latlhelela ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ke kopa mo go Tona gore, nako e gorogile jaanong ya gore once we have funded the youth in their projects, go a tshwanela gore your ministry o eme ka dinao o bone gore a mme ba ba setseng ba thusitswe ka madi ba tsamaya sentle.

Fa ba na le botlhoki bongwe ba thusiwe mo botlhoking jo ba ka tswang ba na le jone Mr Chairperson.
Ke tswelela Mr Chairperson, ke tsena mo dikgannyeng tsa kgwele ya dinao, especially on the part of the youth, re a itse gore fa go simologa go ne go na le lenaneo la Tautona wa pele le a neng a le ntshitse la metshameko mo dikgaolong.

Gompieno go a supafala gore o kare jaanong ga e sa tlhole e fiwa the same prominence e e neng e ntse e e fiwa go le pele.

Re ipotsa gore, was this an initiative ya ga Tautona kana was it a deliberate initiative ya Puso?
Ke kopa gore Minister o ka ema ka dinao jaanong gompieno ka e bile e le monana, go bona gore it is given the very same prominence e e neng e e neelwa ka nako ya ga Tautona wa pele.

Not only that Mr Chairperson, there are other areas of concern tsa the youth and I am saying this as a youth because I know the challenges tsa the youth, because I interact with them.

They talk to me ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.


Kgantele ke ne ke boditse potso fa go tla mo dikgannyeng tse, this is an opportunity ya gore gongwe ke boele kwa potsong ya teng, because it speaks about the very same issues tse re tshwanetseng to address fa re bua ka the youth.

Ke ne ke botsa potso Mr Chairperson kgantele in relation to the funding of the projects, gore o kare re tsaya dikgang tsa to fund ga re di fe the same prominence e re tshwanetseng go di e neela.
Kgantele ke ne ke lela ka lebaka la gore o fitlhela kgaolo e tshwana le ya Mahalapye, re itse fela sentle gore ga e na mmu o o siameng, kana ga e na environment e e siametseng go ka rua small stock.

Fela ka gore madi a tsene, re bo re tsaya tshwetso ya gore re fa mongwe le mongwe yo o tlang yo o reng o ka kgona go rua small stock, re ka mo neela P100 000 go ya go simolola project ya teng.
Monana yo a sena the requisite skills, e le kgang fela ya gore re batla go aba madi ka mabaka a gore madi a teng a tshwanetse go abiwa.

Go na le yo mongwe kwa Mahalapye yo o akanyang gore, mme go na le kgwebo ya go ka tlhatswa dikoloi, go ka roka ditlhako, le kgwebo epe fela e gongwe batho ba motse wa Mahalapye ba ka e kgatlhegelang.

Ke re Tona, dikgang tse re tshwanetse go di tsaya ka tlhoafalo, re lebelele gore… MR LUCAS: Elucidation.

Ke a leboga Rre Boko.

Ke lemogile selo sengwe ka madi a YDF.


Ke gore fa o tsena mo kgaolong e tshwana ya Bobirwa o fitlhela e le gore o kare bontsi jwa bana ba ba neelwang ke ba ba mo Bobonong.

Dikgaolo di tshwana bo Lepokole, Semolale, Gobojango, Mabolwe, Mathathane, o fitlhela dipalo tsa teng di le kwa tlase, fa gongwe go sena ope yo o neetsweng.
Jaanong ke ipotsa gore kwa Mahalapye, kana le na le dikgaolo tsa bo Makwate ka kwa, bo Dovedale, Mmaphashalala, a mme madi a o a bona a goroga koo, jaaka gongwe a ka goroga mo metseng e mengwe ya kgaolo ya gago?

MR BOKO: A ko o leke go boelela part ya bofelo honourable.
MR LUCAS: Se ke neng ke se bua ke gore, o ka fitlhela e kete madi a fa a abiwa dikgaolo tse di kwa ntle gatwe major centres, like kwa go wena tse di tshwanang bo Makwate, Mmaphashalala, Dovedale le tse dingwe, fa gongwe o fitlhela e kete banana ba ba koo ga ba kgone go akola lenaneo le la YDF jaaka ba ba mo the major centres, fela jaaka ke ne ke bua ka Bobirwa.
O fitlhela e le gore dikgaolo tse di kwa ntle bo Tsetsebjwe, Moletemane, Molalatau le tse dingwe e kete palo ya banana ba ba bonang dithuso e nna kwa tlase, mme kana ke tsone dikgaolo tse di nang le letlhoko le le tona.

MR BOKO: Ke yone kgang e ke neng ke lela ka yone Mr Chairperson.
Ke na le metse e tshwana bo Makwate, Shakwe, Taupye, le Setsile, o fitlhela e le gore mananeo 19 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) a ga a kgone to benefit ba metse eo.

E felela benefitting ba e leng gore they are close by.
Re bo re ipotsa gore a mme golo mo Tona is it a question of favouritism, is it a question ya gore batho bao ba itsane le bone ba ba abang madi ao kana lepe lebaka fela?

O tshwanetse o go sekaseke, because madi a maikaelelo a one ke go thusa, segolo jang ba ba disadvantaged jaaka Honourable Taolo Lucas a ne a tlhalosa, ba re ka reng they are on the outskirts tsa the major villages, jaaka metse e tshwana bo Makwate, Setsile, Kudumatse, e re ka reng e kwa ntle.
Just an advice to Tona gore, a re se kang ra ntsha madi a fela for the sake ya gore re tle kamoso re galalediwe gotwe re ntshitse madi a dirile se le se.

A re ntsheng madi a kamoso re bo re kgona go bona gore, mme go na le the returns, go na le sengwe se se duleng re sena go ntsha madi a teng.

Kana go na le some positives e e nnang teng from madi a re tlaabong re a ntshitse.
Gape Tona ke tsena mo go tsa metshameko le entertainment, I am going to give the recent issue ya batabogi ba ba neng ba galalediwa ka mabaka a gore ba ne ba dirile sentle at the Olympics.

Le ne la ba agela matlo, la ba tlotlomatsa, la ba direla lunch, la ba direla tsotlhe tse le neng le tshwanetse ke go ba di direla go supa tota gore le a ba rata gareng ga tse dingwe.

It is a good thing, a good gesture.


Maabane re bona Mmabontle e bong Palesa a goroga a tswa kwa mafatsheng a tswa go re emela ka bokgabane ka fa a neng a ka kgona ka teng, sebe sa phiri e bo e nna gore gongwe ga a ka a kgona go atlega.

Go bo go sa supafale gore golo fa re ne re rometse ngwaga gore a ye go re emela.

Ke gore go bo go nna tsididi fela, go supa gore go raya gore re batla go ikamanya le batho fa ba setse ba fentse, fa ba sa fenyang teng re a ba kgetholola.
Ke re Tona kgang e re tshwanetse go e lebelela.

Batswana ba swabile nko go feta molomo, they are disappointed in your ministry, in you as a Minister.

They are disappointed in the President of course and in the leadership of this country.

Fa Palesa a ka bo a ne a fentse, mongwe le mongwe o kabo a mo itshasa, a mo imota, a mo atumela go feta.

Fela gompieno ka gore ga a ka a kgona go fenya, you guys are distant, cold, you are quiet about everything.
Golo moo go bolaya confidence ya gagwe gareng ga tse dingwe.

Gongwe le tokafatse fa go tla mo dikgannyeng tse di ntseng jalo.

Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson.

OF TRANSPORT AND MINISTER COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson for sebaka se o se mphileng.

Ga ke ne ke nna moleele, le fa maabane ke ne ke buile jalo o bo o re ke ne ke le fora, mme ke tlaa leka bojotlhe gore ke se ka ka le fora.

Fa go ka pala Mr Chairperson e tlaabo e ne e se ka maikaelelo ape fela.
Sa ntlha nte ke eme Tona nokeng mo kopong ya gagwe ya madi.

E bile ke lemoga gore tota le nna jaaka ke a tle ke lele gore ga ke kgone go bona madi go ka nthusa gore ke arabe dilelo tsa Mapalamente, le kwa go ene tota fela mathata a a tshwaraganeng le one a banana, bogolo jang go thusa gore re fenye letlhoko la ditiro.

E bile e le banana ka talente tsa bone ba iphira, ba rotloediwa, ba thusiwa ke letlole jaaka go ntse go buiwa la YDF.
Go ne go bonala thata fela gore re tlhoka go godisa madi a gongwe re a tsenye mo letloleng le.

Fa o lebelela applications tsa teng, fa ke tshwara sentle di tshwara 800 mme re kgona go felela re fitlhelela 10 per cent ya teng e le bone ba re ba thusang.

Maiteko a le kalo ke sa itse mabaka otlhe a gore ba ba sa kgonang, e a bo e le eng.

Ke lemoga gore madi le one boteng jwa one ke sengwe sa seabe se se dirang gore re se ka ra fitlhelela dipalo tse.
Kwa ntleng fela ga gore re bo re lebile gore madi ao a tlhoka gore a ka okediwa, ke na le kopo mo go Tona gore selo se ke dumelang gore bodiredi jwa gago bo tshwanetse go tsepama mo go sone ke kgang ya gore madi a fa ba a neelwa, bontlha bongwe ke a gotweng a buse sephatlo, a mangwe ke a gotweng ke grant.

Jaanong ke kopa sephatlo se Tona, bodiredi jwa gago bo tsepame thata go tlhomamisa gore banana ba ba tsweletseng ba busa madi ao.
Ke buisiwa se ka gore ke tsamaile le dikgwebo tse di neng di ntshetswa madi ka YDF.

Rra, di atlegile mo Tlokweng.

Go na le bobedi fela tse ke kareng di ne di sampe di tla, e le gore gongwe di ne di santse di na le dikgwetlhonyana dingwe.

Ke fitlhetse nngwe ya tse di neng di na le katlego e e kwa godimo thata e bile di setse di tsaya madi kwa bo dibankeng, ba golela le go ya kwa Gaborone, ba saletse kwa morago ka go busa sephatlo seno.
Jaanong ke bo ke ipotsa gore a kgwebo e e golang mo go kana, e ka se ka ya busa madi a a mannyennyane a a neng a kopilwe gore a boe.

Ke sone se ke kopang gore e tle e re re go ema nokeng gore o godise madi ano, bodiredi jwa gago bo bo bo dira ka natla bo tsepame gore sephatlo se se boe ka gore se thusa ba ba neng ba se ka ba bona madi ao.

Jaanong rraetsho, ke go leboge gore o tsamaile lefatshe le.
Ke bone tota o tsamaile lefatshe le, wa ba wa fitlha le mo Tlokweng tota go lekola dikgwebo tse le ntseng le di rotloetsa tse.

Wa ba wa umaka mo pegong le mo mokwalong wa gago, o supile ba ba itekileng thata mo Tlokweng.
E bile ke ka tlatsa ka ba bangwe ba ke neng ke go bolelela ka yo a neng a saletse kwa morago ka dituelo tsa gagwe, go na le yo e leng gore kgwebo ya 20 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) gagwe e dira blinds tse di tsenang mo matlong le offices, e sale e re le pele ga nako e a tshwanetseng gore a buse madi, a bo a setse a a busitse.
A ikagetse, a kgona le go atolosa e bile a supa gore o atolosetsa kgwebo ya gagwe gore a ye go fitlha le kwa bo Serowe.

Ke batla go supa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo gore go na le dikgwebo fela tse di nang le katlego e tona ka madi a o a ntshang a. Ke dumela gore ke tiro e tona thata e o e dirang.

Ke tlaa tsaya ntlha e nngwe gape ka gore ke ne ke batlile gore ke bue thata ka yone this YDF Fund, ke kope gore e tle e okediwe mme ke bona gore sebesegolo ke collection rate ya gago.
P4 million yo o neng o mo beile as target yo o mo fitlheletseng fa ke kopa gore o oketse collection, ke raya gore o oketse go feta sone seelo seo.

Rraetsho, ke phaketse ke nnile le sebaka sa gore re tle go amogela sekgantshwane se se tswang kwa Afrika Borwa; Makhadzi.

O tlaabo a na le moletlo mo Tlokweng ka Matlhatso jaana.

E le gore re mo amogela jaana ba ithulagantse gore ba tlile go phepafatsa motse wa Tlokweng, ba ikopantse le ba Bogosi.
Selo se se mpontshitse ka fa banana mekgwa ya bone e o akgelang mo go yone o bua gore o batla go ba bopa, ba na le ditiro tse dintle fa re ba letla e bile re ba fa tshono ya gore ba dire dilo tse di ntseng jaana.

Ke bua jaana ka gore gape go supafala gore mediro ya go nna jaana e na le letseno le lentsi mo go bone, e bile e rotloetsa business tse dintsi thata.

Go na le ba Gilbert Promotions ba e leng gore ke promoters mme ba bona gore letseno le le tlaabong le le teng fa ba fopholetsa ke bo P25 million.
Re le itumelela gore bontsi jwa lone le tlaa felela le tsene gone mo Tlokweng.

Ba ne ba a fa dikai ka events kwa Afrika Borwa gore go gola go le kae, e bile gape ba na le madi a mantsi a ba a abang.

Ke go kopa gore tshegetsa bodiragatsi jwa banana o bo godise.

Ba ntse ba le mo sepitlaganyaneng ka lebaka le la COVID-19.

Ke sone se o utlwang ke bua ka sone ke re ba dira go tlala ka diatla mme e le mo gontle.
Ke tlaa tsaya ya boraro fela ka bokhutshwanyane rraetsho ke go raya ke re kgang e ya ditagi, e a tshwenya.

Fa gongwe ke gore fa o ka fitlhelang o tshelela teng o sa kopane, o sa itse ka dilo tse, go tla nako e o tlaa gakgamalang tota o fitlhela o kopana le seemo sa ngwana yo o ka fa tlase ga ditagi tsa go nna jalo.

O bona gore botshelo le isago ya gagwe ke gore go lefifi fela.

Ke batla go go kopa rraetsho gore tota go a tlhokafala, ke ne ke utlwa le Honourable Lucas a bua jalo.
Re tshwanetse re nne le rehabilitation centres, bogolo jang tse di itebagantseng le go leka gore ba ba wetseng mo mathateng a a ntseng jaana, a ke a bojalwa mme ke bona gore se se golang se e bileng ke neng ke lekodisiwa sengwe ka sone mo mosong e le sa ditagi, re tlhoka go thusa bana ba gore ba tle ba nne le isago.

Ka ke ne ka ikgolega ka re ga ke na mafoko a mantsi ke tlaa nna mokhutshwane, ke tlaa nama ke eme foo Modulasetilo, gongwe o tlaa se ke o nkiteye ka thupa ya maabane gore ke ne ke le hora.
Ke a leboga Modulasetilo.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much Honourable Minister.

Ke ne ke setse ke beile podi fa ke re ke tlaa tla ke go e fa fa o ka siana.

Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Gaborone Bokone; Rraagwe Atang.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Rraagwe Nkamo, a ga wa ntebala tota?

MR CHAIRPERSON: Rra!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: A ga wa ntebala tota mongwame?

MR CHAIRPERSON: Go bua mang?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Honourable Motaosane.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Ga ke a go lebala Rraagwe Tshepi.


HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR CHAIRPERSON: Motlotlegi Rraetsho Balopi ke yo ka ga a bonale, go ya go tsena Mopalamente wa Thamaga-Kumakwane, Motlotlegi Rraetsho Palelo Keitseope Motaosane.

Rraagwe Tshepi.

MR MOTAOSANE (THAMAGA-KUMAKWANE): Thank you Chairperson.

Nte ke go leboge Modulasetilo le Tona, motlogolo Honourable Tumiso Macdonald Rakgare gore o bo o re beile pele kopo ya madi a o eletsang go a neelwa mo ngwageng e ya 2022/2023.
Ke go solofetsa gore ke dumalana gore o neelwe madi a. Ke tle ke utlwe botlhoko gantsi fa ke dumalana madi a neelwa, ke bo ke fitlhela e le gore kwa kgaolong ya me ga go bonale sepe se re yang go se latswanyana mo teng.

Ke go kope Tona, pele gongwe ke leboge mmabontle wa rona gore a bo a tsamaile mosepele o moleele, o o kanakana, ga ke na go bua jaaka ba ba tsayang batho ka leso legolo gore o kare ngwana ga a atlega.
Nnyaa, ke dumela gore o tlaa mmitsa, o tlaa go mmaya letsogo mo legetleng gore you appreciate se a se diretseng Batswana 21 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) ka gore o ne a direla rona, re le Botswana.

O ka tswa a ne a ile kwa e le ene, mme o ne a le kwa, a tsholeditse folaga ya lefatshe la Botswana, seo re a se mo lebogela.
Honourable Minister, ke ne ke batla gore ke fete ka dintlhanyana di le pedi mabapi le dikgang tsa lephata la gago.

Pele Tona, ke go kope, kwa Thamaga re dirile a youth centre, e ke dumelang gore o itse ka yone, e ke eletsang gore e ye go tsenngwa computers, o bo o re tsenyetsa gongwe Interns gone koo, ba ba ka thusang bana ditiro tsa go dira business plans, go dirisa maranyane ape fela, any research e ba ka tswang ba e tlhoka.
The purpose of that centre, e ne e le gore bana ba atumele ditlamelo, ba kgone to access dilo tsa ga Goromente motlhofo, ba tsene fela mo website ya ga Goromente, fa Ofising ya Youth gone kwa Thamaga.

Ke bo ke re, e tlhaelelwa ke dilonyana jaaka mabala.

Bana ba gago jaaka o batla go simolola metshameko jaana, ga ba na mabala, ba ya go thulathulana le teams tse di tshamekang mo league jaaka league e le on, mme le bone o eletsa gore ba simolole mo bogaufing.
Mabala a teng, a ka tsena foo a a ka dirang all the sporting codes tse banana ba ka se keng ba tlhoke fa ba tshamekelang teng.

Re thuse go bona gore golo foo, go a diragala Honourable Minister.

Sabobedi, ke kope gore the library ya kwa Thamaga, mongwame tlhe e siilwe ke nako.

Kana fa e ne e le sengwe, re ka bo re re e tlodilwe ke dipeba.

O ka akanya gore that library e sale e nna teng ka the early 80’s, mme le jaana rra, e ntse ke sone sekhuruntlhwanyane sele.
Jaaka e bile go na le seemo sa COVID, batho ga ba kgone go tsena mo go yone, ba ya go bala.

O fitlhela go tsena palonyana e e seng ya sepe, bana ba bo ba boa kwa ntle, ba boela kwa morago, ba sa kgone go ya go dira research kwa library.

Ke ne ke na le wena fa re ile teng, o iponetse.

Ke tsene fela mo kgannyeng ya metshameko e e tlang.

Honourable Rakgare, ke dumela gore lenaneo la metshameko e ya ga Tautona, ke go kope, ke dumela gore e na le cycles tse tharo mo ngwageng.
Maabane ke iphile nako to calculate gore all the sporting codes, go simologa ka wards fa e le gore mo ward ya me sekai, e na le wards di le eight, ke lebelela gore at what level, number one e tsaya P3000, ya bobedi e tsaya P2000, e nngwe P1000, in all the eight wards, in all sporting codes that are participating.
Fa ke leba madi a mongwame, ke bo ke bona gore nnyaa, re ka dira sengwe se se botoka go gaisa ka gore yes, bontlha bongwe ke entertainment, mme kana this project fa e simologa, tota maikaelelo e ne e le gore banana ba fa ba fenya se ba se fenyang, ba bo ba ka kgona gore ba itirele sengwe ka one, ba iphire.

Ga go lebege golo moo go kgonagala, le wena o mosupi.
Di dintsi teams tse di fentseng kwa gaThamaga, mme ga o ka ke wa bona sepe se ba se dirileng ka madi a. Jaanong ke ne ke re a e re cycle e nngwe e tsena, madi a otlhe, a tsisiwe kwa constituency, re bone gore re ka dira eng for banana ba re ba hire.

Re dire the incubation projects tsa dikoko, merogo le eng fela jalo, re ba batlele masimo, re ba epele didiba, re bo re ba tsenyetsa stock, ba dira ka fa ba ka kgonang go dira kgwebo e ba itshetsang ka yone.
Eventually form cooperatives through one madi a. Ke gore cycle ya ntlha fa ba tshameka, ya bobedi madi a teng, a bo a isiwa gore re ye go bona gore re dira eng ka one, ya boraro ba tshameke, e e latelang jalojalo fela.

O tlaa nna le nna mo goreng in two years, re tshwanetse re bo re dirile projects fela tse di nonofileng, tse di hirileng banana ka dipalo tse dintsi go gaisa jaaka re e dira gompieno.
Ga re ka ke ra boa ra buseletsa lenaneo le fela gore le ye go tswelela jaaka le ne le ntse because re bone gore maduo a teng, yes, physically and entertainment wise le thusitse, mme fela gore banana ba bone ditiro, ga go a kgona gore le ba direle ditiro.

Ga ke kgatlhanong le lone, mme ke kopa gore a re e lebe jalo mongwame.

Re bale madi a, fa e le gore ke P2 million yo o tsentsweng foo, re bone gore gongwe re le Constituency ya Thamaga-Kumakwane, re neelwa P500 000.
We can start something ka madi a a kalo, re bo re dira tiro fela e le wena o tlaa kgotsofalang o le Tona gore nnyaa, mme madi a was put to good use.

Fa e le nna Motaosane, ke tlaa ba bitsa, ka ditlhopha tsa bone, ba nna fa, re plan kgang e mmogo, or even le bone ba tle ka proposals tsa bone gore jaaka fa ba fenya madi a, ba batla gore ba bo ba ya go dira eng ka one.

Then re bo re e tsaya gone foo ka gore o ya go fitlhela gongwe tse pedi, tse tharo di na le a common understanding.
Le fa ba sa fenya, mme fa e le gore madi ao in that cycle a tsene, o ya go fitlhela e le gore a ya go kgona go tlhamela banana ditiro ka sebopego se se ntseng jalo.

Fa re lebelela ya YDF, e siame Tona, mme e tshwenya ka gore tota dipalo, o a leka fa go tla ka foo Tona, ga ke batle go fitlha, ke bona maiteko a gago, but mathata ke gore ga e kgone go neela banana ka dipalo tse motho a ka eletsang ka tsone.

20 in a constituency e tshwana le ya Thamaga-Kumakwane, ke mathata.
So fa re ne re ka leka go oketsa fa go kgonagalang teng, gore go thusiwe gongwe banana ba le 30, mo nakong ya ngwaga jalo, go ka nna botoka go gaisa jaaka gompieno go diragala.

Kana jaanong o kare re ba tswisa pelo, ba bangwe e 22 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) bile ba godile, ba fetile le tsone dingwaga tsa gore ba ka ikopela lenaneo le.
A ko o e sekaseke gone foo Tona, gore a re ka se ke re oketse dipalonyana tsa bone, ra bona gore we source money from where gore re a oketse ka gore le one a setse a tlhaela dipalo tsone tse.

MR CHAIRPERSON: O lebega a ngadile; mma re mo tlhokomologe.

A go tsene wena my son.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Thank you Mr Chairperson... Gape gongwe ke bue thata ka ya small stock, mongwame kana o kare re boleletswe gore the market is there, for small stock.
A re neele banana ba madi, bogolo jang ba bo Kotolaname jaana, kwa dipodi di dirang sentle teng.

Bo Tsimane, Tsime, Ratshere, Kubung le Lesilakgokong dipodi di dira sentle thata mo dikgaolong tseo.

Fa o ka ba neela madi a mongwame, ke go bolelela tota ke re dipodi tse di tlaa tla ka mmetela, ra bo ra kgona to meet the quotas tsa market o re o boneng teng.

A banana ba ba se kgaphelwe ntle mo dikgannyeng tse.
Gongwe kwa bofelong Tona ka gore nako ke e ke a e bona gore e a tsamaya, ke eletsa gore ke go kope gore go na le dikgang tsa supervision, di utlwisa botlhoko.

Gone jaana fa ke ka go fa sekai, ke sale ke kuela ngwana yo mongwe kwa ofising ya gago, kwa baneng ba gago, e seng mo go wena in person, ya gore go na le ngwana yo o neng a leka go iteka ka dikgomo, tsa a swa, di bolawa ke mauba.

A kile a kopa gore a di fuduse, a di ise fa go botoka, ka nako ya leuba lele le nako ya legonyana.
Up to now, kgang ya gagwe e ntse e koo, o tshwanelwa ke go duela YDF, dikgomo tsone ga go na le fa e le e nngwefela, e bile o fetile dingwaga tsa bonana.

A ko ke kope gore e, jaanong ke e bua phatlalatsa mo go wena gore a ngwana yo, makhaya a thusiwe ka kgang e, a utlwiwe, fa go pala a bolelelwe.
There is no way ka gore o ne a kile a tsaya matsapa a gore a le kwalele, a le neele information yotlhe gore o mo seemong se se ntseng jang, dikgomo, leuba ke le o batla go di fudusetsa kae, officer yo o neng a le teng, a se ka a mo fa sebaka sa gore a di fuduse.

Ke sale ke e neela bodiredi jwa gago jo bo kwa godimo to attend it, up to now, o nna fela mo go nna.

Ke a go leboga Tona.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Thamaga-Kumakwane, re a leboga rraarona.
Go tlaa tsena Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Selebi Phikwe Botlhaba, Rraagwe Pako.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Rra Nkamo, ke teng foo, ke tloga ke tsena?

MR CHAIRPERSON: O tloga o tsena ngwana wa ga nkgonne.

Ke batla Rraagwe Pako pele.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Thank you my father.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson... MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motsamai.

MR MOTSAMAI: Ke ka kwano, o ne a rile ke mo tsweledisetse.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!

)… MR CHAIRPERSON: Tswelela ntate, Morena wa me.


tswelela MR MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): Mr Chairperson, ka gore o ne a rile ke mo tsweledisitse, ga ke na go bua kgang ka go remelela mo kgaolwaneng e ke nnang mo go yone.

Ke tlaa remelela mo mathateng a banana ba kopanang le one lefatshe ka bophara.

Mr Chairperson, bothata jo bo leng teng jwa banana jo bo tonatona thata jo re bo bonang, ke jwa badiragatsi go fitlhela ba bo ba ya go tsofala.
Tota lephata la ga Rre Rakgare, go batla o ema ka dinao Tona o bona gore badiragatsi ba boelwa ke ditshwanelo le meputso ya bone.

Rraetsho, maloba re ne re boloka modiragatsi yo mongwe, mme re mmoloka jaana re feta ka mafoko re le bagolo re supa gore badiragatsi ba tshwanetse gore fa ba sena go hulara, re sireletse ditalente le dipina tsa bone, bana ba bone ba gotse melelo ka dipina tsa borraabone.

Ke ka go beela sekai ka Andries Bok, Ratsie Setlhako le Gokatweng kwa Mmashoro Mr Chairperson.
Gompieno jaana fa o ya go tsena kwa Tsabong kwa kgaolong ya ga Rre Brooks, bana ba ga Andries Bok ba tlaabo ba batla gore Rre Brooks a ba kwadise mo boipelegong.

A re batla go bona setšhaba se se ntseng jaana, mme Sontaga le Sontaga kana nako le nako o utlwa dipina tsa bo rraabone kana mmaabone di opelwa mo seromamoweng (radio) go le monate?

Dilo tse Mr Chairperson, re tshwanetse ra bona gore badiragatsi ba a sirelediwa.
Goromente o tshwanetse a tswa ka lenaneo la go bona gore go nne le thotloetso ya association ya badiragatsi, gore bogolo ba rotloediwe ka tsela e ba ka rotloediwang ka yone, ba nne le insurances gore mo dintshong tsa bone go se ka ga tlhabisa ditlhong.
Ntlha e nngwe Mr Chairperson, ke ya dikgang tsa lefatshe tse e reng fa go na le tiro e tona e go batliwang go gasa molaetsa wa yone, gongwe go bo tsewa modiragatsi a le mongwefela go gasiwa molaetsa wa tiro 23 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) ya P3 Million.

A go se ka ga nna jalo.


Kutlwisiso ya bone ba kopa gore fa kwa Ngami, Okavango, Mathangwane kana kwa kgaolong ya Ramotswa ya Lesetlhana, go na le modiragatsi yo o ka gasang molaetsa botoka batho ba Ramotswa ba o utlwa, a le ene a tlhapiwe a tsenngwe mo teng gore go ngathoganngwe that P6 kana P3 million le bana ba dikgaolo tseo.

Go se ka gongwe ga tswelela modiragatsi a le mongwefela, fa re batla go ba tlhabolola (develop) Mr Chairperson.
Mr Chairperson, ke tsena mo dikgannyeng tse di amang banana mo dikgaolong tse dingwe jaaka e le Kgaolo ya Ghanzi South kana ya Ghanzi le tse dingwe bo Ngami.

Mr Chairperson, banana ba dikgaolo tsa rona gantsi ke batho ba ba itseng ka kgomo le podi kana ka thuo.

O tlaa fitlhela e re madi a dule, e bo e le banana ba ba bolelelwang gore o kare ba kopa selo se le sengwefela.
Ke tsentse le banana ba kwa Kgalagadi South, Kgalagadi North le Kweneng mo teng, gotwe ba itse go tsenya proposal ya go rua dipodi le dikgomo fela.

Fa e le gore lefatshe le teng le banana ba ka ruelang mo go lone, metsi a le teng a banana ba ka nosang mo teng, market wa dipodi o le teng jaaka go buiwa ka wa Kuwait le Dubai, fa market wa dikgomo o le teng, what is wrong with that?
A banana ba neelwe madi go se ka ga lebiwa gore o kare kgaolo yotlhe e tshwana le Charles Hill ba kopa selo se le sengwefela; dipodi.

Fa lefatshe le le teng, dipodi ba ka di bona ba ka di rua, metsi a le teng, mathata a teng ke eng Rre Molale ka kwa Xanagas ka koo?

Bothata jwa teng e ka nna eng?

Ga gona bothata, a ba thusiwe go lebilwe gore ba kopa se ba se tlhokang e bile ba se kgona bobe Mr Chairperson.
Mr Chairperson, re lebelele gape gore fa madi a tswa gotwe a ya Kgaolong ya Good Hope kana a ya kgaolwaneng e e tshwanang le ya Hukuntsi kana Charles Hill, a go lejwe gore fa gotwe madi ke a Ghanzi South, a banana mo dikgaolong tsa Ghanzi South ba akole (benefit).

Gongwe mo metseng akole (benefit) ka bontsinyana, mo metseng e e agang Ghanzi South, Goodhope-Mabule, Kgalagadi South, Kgalagadi North, Kweneng, le Ngami.
Re se ka ra fitlhela e le gore fa re re re file banana mananeo, re raya kwa Ngami re neetse banana mo Sehithwa fela, re bo re lebala ba bo Bodibeng, Botlhatlogo le ba bangwe Mr Chairperson.

A dilo tse re di lebelele ka leitlho le le tseneletseng gore madi fa a abiwa, banana ba kgone go imona ntlheng tsotlhe go phuthololwe kabo eo.

Tona Rakgare, banana ba kwa Charles Hill ba a lela, ka gore ga gona fa ba tshamekelang teng.
A o santse o bua jaaka la ntlha ke tsena mo Palamenteng, o re fa ke ka bona stadium kwa kgaolong eo, ke ka nona?

Ke batla go itse Rre Rakgare gore, a o santse o bua gore ke ka nona?

Rraetsho, ba utlwele botlhoko, banana ba dikgaolo tseo e bile ba Kgaolo ya Ghanzi South ba tshotse ditalente tse dingwe tse di gakgamatsang, bogolo jang in sports.
Ba siana lebelo le lengwe le le gakgamatsang, ke raya batho ba ba kileng ba ya go siana le kwa mafatshefatsheng, ba le wena o ka se keng o ba kgome kana o ba atumele ka lebelo.

Mr Chairperson, ke kope jaana gore Charles Hill e batla mini-stadium… HONOURABLE MEMBER: E le gore Minister o lebelo thata?

MR MOTSAMAI: …e go ka tshwarelwang teng metshameko ya banana le kgwele ya dinao.

Kgang e, o tshwanetse o e tsibogele Tona.


Tona, fa ke ntse ke bua le ka tsa banana, a ko o leke gore a ga le ka ke la bona nngwe tsela ya gore o buisane le Minister yo o okametseng CEDA kana dibanka gore fa banana ba kopa, ke itse gore go na le lenaneo la teng mo CEDA, go nne le a quota ya gore ngwaga o CEDA e itikile, e file banana ba le kana.
E seng gore Kgaolo e tshwana le ya Ghanzi South, gotwe CEDA e itikile go tewa gongwe go bone monana a le mongwefela, ka gore o lesego, rraagwe o tlhokafetse a tlogela polase, mme boidiidi jwa banana ba supile proposals tse di utlwalang di ka ba isa golo gongwe.

Ke bo ke tsaya nako e ke akgole banana ba kgaolo e e bidiwang Chobokwane, ba ba dubang borotho ba bo rekisetsa batho.

Ke akgole banana ba kwa New Xanagas, bangwe ke baroki, ba dira ditiro tse di farologaneng.
Ke akgole banana ba kwa Xade, ba ba dirang ditiro tse di farologaneng le metako.

Ke bo ke akgole le bomme ba Kgaolo ya Ghanzi South, ba ba tshwaraganeng le go iketsha kwa morago ka go dira mekgapho, e Tona le fa ke farologana le wena, ke tshwanetse ke go akgole rraetsho gore e rile maloba bomme ba Ghanzi South ba sena go dira mekgapho ka bua le ofisi ya gago, mme ga le a ka la ntshwabisa.
Le fa dipula di ne di na di sentse mekgapho eo, mme ofisi e ne ya ema ka dinao go ya go bona gore mekgapho e atlholwe (judged), batho bao ba tlhatswiwe diatla le bone ba kgone go nwa kofi.

Ke go akgola ka seo rraetsho, ke akgola le bana ba gago go tsaya kgang e tsia.

Ke wela ka kgang ya gore Tona, leka ka bojotlhe gore mo schedule sa gago, o boe gape o mpate o ya to address diphuthego kwa Ghanzi South, re bue ka mathata a banana ba kgaolo ya Ghanzi South.
O fitlhela go dirilwe 24 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) halls kana matlo lehalahala a a senang ditsompelo tse banana ba ka iketshang bodutu ka tsone.

Go botlhokwa gore banana go bo go na le dilo tse ba ka iketshang bodutu ka tsone.

Go botlhokwa gore banana ba tsewe ba isiwe dikoleng.

Ba tsewa ka lenaneo la ga Mma Tshireletso.

O boe gape o tsosolose serodumo seo.


Banana ba dikgaolo tsa settlements ba saletse kwa morago rraetsho, ba a sotlega kana ba a shetla ka puo ya kwa Maun ya Seyei.

Ba a shetla rraetsho.

Ke a leboga motho wa batho.

Tanki.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Gaborone Central, ke na le eight minutes e ke ka go e neelang mokaulengwe wa me.

(GABORONE MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY CENTRAL): Thank you my Chairperson.

Ke lebogile thata.
Ke lebogile thata.

Mr Chairperson, mma ke simolole ke gopole monana wa rona wa kwa Maruapula wa modiragatsi wa mmino wa hip-hop kana wa motswako e leng Dramaboi, yo o re tlogetseng mo ngwageng o re neng re tswa mo go one.

Ke tseye sebaka se go mo gopola fa re bua ka badiragatsi.

Honourable Minister, sa ntlha se se tshwenyang thatathata ke the youth unemployment rate ya 32.4 per cent.
Fa re tsamayang teng mo lefatsheng la Botswana, legale population census e tlaa re sedimosetsa sentle, re belaela gore somewhere around 70 per cent ya lefatshe la Botswana, ke banana.

So, if 32.4 per cent of them are unemployed, you are probably talking about somewhere close to 500,000 people who are unemployed.

Ke selo sa ntlha se se tshwenyang thatathata Minister.
O leke ka tsotlhe go buisana le bakaulengwe ba gago in the different ministries to be very youth centric and youth focused mo mananeong a otlhe a re a dirang re itse gore ke bone the future of our country.

Palo e, e a tshwenya thatathata.

Re a bona Minister gore go na le tse o di lekang.

You have entrepreneurship programmes, affirmative action, jalojalo.

Ga se gore ga go na se se dirwang.

Re a bona gore o leka gore banana ba thusiwe ka ditsela tse di mmalwa.
E nngwe Honourable Minister ya 2.3, o bua ka youth character development.

This is a very good initiative.

Ke selo se se siameng thata go leka go aga banana, go ba bopa mo maitshwarong le maitsholo a bone.

Minister, ke tshwenngwa ke gore, jaaka batlotlegi ba setse ba buile dikgang tse di tshwanang le tsa Alcohol Levy Fund, gore ga e dirisiwe enough to address these problems.
Organisations tse di tshwanang le Botswana Substance Abuse Support Network (BOSASNet) o fitlhela di bona sengwe mo Pusong, but it is far from enough fa o lebile dikgang tse re lebaganeng le tsone.

I want to implore you to work closely with them.

O ba ikatumetse o utlwe gore mathata a bone ke eng?

Ba ka thusiwa jang ka gore ba botlhokwa thatathata fa re bua ka character development.

If we have problems of drug and substance abuse, go nna thata go aga character ya motho.
YDF; Honourable Minister, 2.4, o ne o ipeetse seelo sa 1,220 sa dikgwebo tsa banana tse o neng o batla go di etela, mme o etetse di le 1,133.

Ke batla go go akgola thata Minister.

Gantsintsi political leadership re emela go utlwa ka the technocrats, badirelapuso go utlwa gore diemo di tsamaya jang.

Jaanong go a lebosega tota go bona gore over a period of 12 months, you have been to 1,133 businesses tsa banana, re go akgole rraetsho.
I believe on a couple of those o ne wa ntsaya in my capacity as a member of the Youth Committee.

Re ne ra ya go di bona, ke dumela gore re ne re na le Motlotlegi Rre Boko kwa Francistown, le fa a ne a tshwarwa ke tse dingwe, o ne a se ka a tsamaya le rona kwa projects, but you do take us on board as members.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga go na sepe se se neng sa ntshwara.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Ao rra!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: ...(Inaudible)... MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Okay, o ne wa robala.
O ne wa se ka wa tla fa re ile go bona projects.

Ke ne ke leka go e bua sentle, jaanong o batla ke e tlhamalatsa.

O ne o robetse re ile go bontshiwa projects, mme legale ke ne ke se mo dikgannyeng tseo.

Minister, go le gantsi re utlwa dipalo tsa ba le ba fileng madi (funded) mme ga se gantsi re utlwa gore di le kae di ole, gape le gore mo go tse le di fileng madi, di kae tse di santseng di bereka.

Go ka nna botlhokwa gore le differentiate, o nne o di re fa, fa re ntse re tsamaya Honourable Minister.
Youth Volunteer Programme; 2.3.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Freeze the clock bongwanaka.

Honourable Member for Mahalapye East, what is your point of procedure?

MR BOKO: This is the procedure Mr Chairperson, ga ke gane Honourable Healy is my friend, re a utlwana, mme go bua mafoko a a reng ke ne ka robala ka se ka ka attend, ga a na boammaaruri.

Ke ne ke re botoka a a boele morago because ke mafoko a lesenyo, ga a na boammaaruri mo teng, golo mo ke television.
25 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) MR CHAIRPERSON: Ke ne ke re gakere le ditsala.

MR BOKO: Nnyaa ... MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Mr Chairperson, gape ke ne ke sa bua gore o ne a dira eng, ke ene a tlang a tsositse modumo.

Ke ne ke rile Tona o ne a re tsere re ile Francistown a ya go re bontsha projects tsa banana.
MR CHAIRPERSON: Le wena a ko o buise tsala ya gago sentle, buisa tsala ya gago sentle.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Nnyaa ke ene a ipelaelang Mr Chairperson.

Mr Chairperson, Youth Volunteer Programme; Honourable Minister o bua fa e le gore banana ka bontsi ga ba kgatlhegele go ya kwa tengnyanateng, mme ke tsaya gore o a itse gore mathata a go nna in remote areas ke eng.

O ba akanyetse gore go nne le an incentive, sengwe se se ka ba rotloetsang gore ba kgone go a go nna kwa dikgaolong tsa tennyanateng.
Go nna kwa tengnyanateng go na le dikgwetlho tsa teng, ga go gakgamatse gore e ka re banana ga ba supe kgatlhego e ntsi ya go a go nna teng.

If you can think of some incentives gore ba kgone go dira programmes tsa internship kwa tengnyanateng.

Mma re go akgole Minister on the strong support you have given to our many different teams.

At this point, gongwe motho o ka bua ka the Olympic team ba ba buileng ka bronze, the under 20 athletics, Zebras ya bomme.
Leina le la Mares nna le a ntshita Minister, I think you must look for a better name.

Bomme I think it goes without saying gore part of the reason why ba kgonne is because of the strong support.

I want to also reiterate jaaka ke ne ke buile kgantele gore batho bangwe ga ba bue fela, ba a dira.

Motlotlegi Mma Monnakgotla is a strong contributor to where the Mares are today because of what she has done in sponsoring league ya bomme ya kgwele ya dinao.
Re le bantsi re tshwana le Never Tshabang jaana, re nna re re ga go dirwe se, go ka dirwa se.

In our personal capacity ga go supafale sepe se re se dirang.

Ke batla go akgola Motlotlegi Mma Monnakgotla gore in her personal capacity, e bile pele fa a emela ditlhopho e nna lepolotiki, o ne a tsenya seatla mo go thuseng mo lefatsheng la ga bone le.

Mr Chairperson, sport legislation; ke tsaya gore Honourable Minister, go a supa tota gore re tlhwaafalela sport fa re setse re dira melao e e lebaganeng le sone.
We transcend from sport to put it in under the Sport Act, le national anti-doping, ke bona e le dilo tse di siameng thata.

Honourable Minister, sport infrastructure; rraetsho, we need a world class stadium in the capital of Botswana in Gaborone.

Stadium sa Gaborone ke sa 1966 se fetilwe ke dinako.

Ke sone se go neng go tseelwa boipuso mo go sone.


Minister, I think you are going to be in a very difficult position fa e le gore ba Namibia re ka win bid mmogo o bo ya to compare stadium they will be hosting mo go sone kwa Windhoek versus our stadium in Gaborone.

Jaanong o kope madi sir, I will support you strongly.

We need a world class 60,000 seater indoor stadium in the city of Gaborone.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke dumalana le wena!

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Jaanong a ko re bone gore re ka dira jang gone foo.
Honourable Minister, Dubai 2020; I think you did well koo to expose bana ba Batswana.

I think there is a mismatch, this thing ya go tsaya artists ba isiwa kwa investment forum, we must put more money into taking artists kwa dikgannyeng tsa Olympics jaaka Commonwealth Games di tla.

Sport and entertainment go hand in hand, so that is where we need to focus.
Jaaka Commonwealth Games di tla kwa Birmingham, where the Commonwealth countries are going to be meeting, bona gore o ka dira jang to expose talent ya bana ba Batswana at those games Honourable Minister.

Cross country recording tsa arts and culture; Honourable Minister, to spread the pie too thin jaaka kwa YDF go tsenngwa batho ba le ba ntsintsi, this thing each artist worked away with P1,700 ga go thuse ka sepe.

Choose the most talented promising and invest the most money mo go bone.
O se ka wa spread madi thatathata mo e leng gore mongwe le mongwe, le yo e leng gore ga a na talente, o felela a benefit.

I thank you Honourable Chairperson and Honourable Minister.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much Honourable Member for Gaborone Central.

Honourable Minister Rakgare, please reply to the debate.

MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR RAKGARE): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson.
Ke lebogela batlotlegi gore ba bo ba re kgwile dikgaba, mme se se tona ba bo ba re rebotse gore re ka dirisa madi a re a kopileng.

Ke ba leboge fela botlhe ba ba tsereng karolo mo go bueng mo kgannyeng e, gammogo le ba gongwe ba ka tswang ba sa nna le nako ya go akgela.

Ke supe fa gore we appreciate their support.


E 26 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) bile ke na le tsholofelo e tona ya gore re tsile go kgona go neelwa madi a ka gore support ya bone e a bonala.

Ke bua se Mr Chairperson ka gore I have been to so many constituencies mo lefatsheng la garona.
Ba e leng gore ga ba a bua, le bone ba a itse, bo Honourable Brooks, Honourable Majaga le Honourable Kapinga, ke bangwe ba bone, bo Honourable Modukanele.

Ba bantsi Honourable Chair ba re ileng kwa dikgaolong tsa bone maikaelelo e le go ya go leba seemo se banana ba iphithelang ba le mo go sone.
Gongwe let me share this Honourable Chair, e ne ya re fa re tlhongwa mo lephateng le le Honourable Billy, re ne ra ipeela seelo, ra tla ka plan ya dingwaga tse pedi ya gore fa Modimo a santse a ratile, Motlotlegi Tautona a santse a re neetse ditilo tse mo Lephateng le la Banana, tota mme gone re ya go dira eng in these two years.

Kgang e tona Mr Chairperson e ne e le gore kana ga o ka ke wa dira sepe fela mo lephateng o sa itse gore mme go na le eng, go na le bomang.
Selo sa ntlha fela as a leader Mr Chairperson, o tshwanelwa ke gore sekaseke gore mme the personnel, the human capital that you have in the ministry, ba mo seemong se se ntseng jang?

A ba itumetse?

A ba a thusiwa?

Fa ba sa thusiweng teng, le ya go dira jang gore le ba thuse before o ka ya kwa go reng mme re neela batho bagarona kana the constituency ya rona services tsa mofuta ofe ka programmes tse re nang le tsone.
E ne e le gore e re fa re tsamaya re tlhola bodiredi jwa rona jwa lephata, re bo gape re pataganya le gore re tlhole banana le ditsompelo tse di kwa dikgaolong jaaka mabala, youth centres jalojalo.

Jaanong re ne re gobokile gore re tle re nne le seemo sentle sa gore e re fa re simolola go tsaya ditshwetso, re bo re itse gore kwa bolebelebe go na le eng, kwa kgaolong ya ga Rre Moagi kwa Ramotswa kana Taung go na le eng?

A go na le phatlhanyana fa re ka yang go tlhoma lebala teng kana go diragala eng?
Kwa go Rre Segokgo banana ba ntse jang?

A ba a iteka?

Ba ba itekeng ba, thuso ba e bona e ntse jang?

Le ene Rre Segokgo o na le batho ba ba koo, re ba beile koo, e le bodiredi jwa rona jo bo itumetseng mme e bile bo thusa banana ba rona.

Ke gone mo re neng re go ipeetse dingwaga tse pedi, mme ra dira jalo Honourable Chair, re dira jalo jaaka ke ne ke supa, re gobokile, re patapatile re tsentse le tse dingwe ka gore lephata le jaaka bangwe ba setse ba supile, le letona fela thata.
Le tlhokana le gore e re fa re ntse re tsweletse, fa nne Puso e na le madi, e kgaoganye, e re kgaoganye, Honourable Billy a tseye mo gongwe, ke sale ka mo gongwe re tle re kgone gore re tswelele sentle.

Honourable Chair, mma ke tle ke lebelele dikakgelo tsa Mapalamente.

Ba tlaa intshwarela ka gore tse dingwe ke tlaa felela ke di soboka ka ntata ya gore ga ke ka ke ka kgona gore ke ba arabe ka bongwe ka bongwe.

Mma ke simolole ka Honourable Mathoothe.


O ne a bua fa ka gore mme fa a lebile YDF, o kare jaanong mo gongwe go nna le mathata a gore re neela bana madi, ga re kgone go bona gore a madi a re a ntshang a, projects tse re a bong re di thusa ka madi, a mme ke tse go a bong go tlhokafala gore re tsenye madi mo go tsone.

Ke thuse jaana Mr Chair, go botlhokwa gore le rona re le Batlotlegi Mapalamente gore re ikamanye le lephata la rona.
Ga ke kgakala Honourable Chair, I am always available to assist Honourable Members ka information e ba ka tswang ba e tlhoka ka tsela epe, gore ba tlhaloganye gore dilo tsa rona, mananeo a rona re a dira ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Selo sa ntlha fela Mr Chair, ga o ka ke wa rotloetsa kgwebo o sa itse gore a ene yo o mo rotloetsang o na le skills tse di tlhokafalang mo kgwebong ya mofuta oo.

Sa bobedi, gongwe e ka nna kgang ya experience.


Le yone passion, gore a dilo tse di teng mo go ene yo o tlang a tla go ikopela madi.

Se sengwe ke gore mmaraka o ntse jang?

You do market analysis; you assess your market gore mme a se monana yo a batlang go se dira, a mme se ka kgona go itshwarelela mo mmarakeng o a batlang to operate mo go one?

Se sengwe e nna bo competition.

You do market analysis, o tsaya dilo tse tsotlhe o di tsenya mo teng gore competition e ntse jang?

Threats di fa kae?
Threats di fa kae?

Opportunities di fa kae?

A kgwebo e e na le sebaka sa gore e ka felela e gola?

Kgolo e fa kae, jalojalo?

Ke sone se e leng gore ngwaga o o tlang, re bo re fetola lewa re re, ga re na go fund project nngwe le nngwe fela.

Re ya go lebelela tse di bogadi bo gaufi, tse di ka re thusang go fokotsa letlhoko la ditiro e le dikgwebo tsa banana, tse e leng gore banana ba fa ba simolotse dikgwebo tse, ba ka kgona gore ba hire balekane ba bone ka dipalo tse dintsi.
Se sengwe ya nna gape gore re lebelele those sectors tse re bonang gore mo nakong ya gompieno, di ka kgona gore di re suteletse fa pelenyana, aligning ourselves le Agenda ya ga Tautona ya Transformation, e re kopileng ditlhopho re lebile yone.
Gape re sa lebe mo Botswana fela gore mme mo isagong, bana ba e bo e le gore ba kgona gore jaanong ba ka export these products, ba ka isa their services kwa ntle ga lefatshe la Botswana ra kgona gore re ikamanye 27 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) le maphata a mangwe.
Re kgone go bona dikgang tse tsa bo import substitution di diragala mo lefatsheng la rona, re kgone gore re ijese jalo le jalo.

Dilo tse tsotlhe tse Motlotlegi Modulasetilo, re a di lebelela.

Motlotlegi o ne a buile ka bo dipolase jalo gore a re bone banana ba tsena mo teng le gore ba thusitse kwa Serowe, ba kgonne gore ba bereke le Village Development Committee (VDC).

Re a leboga, re batla go bona le tsaya karolo batlotlegi fela jaaka bangwe ba lona ba dira, le tsaya karolo, le thusa banana ba.
E bile gape motlotlegi o ne a supa gore mo gongwe ke gore fa banana ba kwadisitse dikompone jaana kwa bo Companies and Intellectual Property Authority (CIPA), mme kamoso ga ba nne le madi a returns ka gore dikgwebo tsa bone tse ba a bong ba di kwadisitse, di felela jaanong e le gore ngwaga o ya go wela fela monana e le gore ga a ise a dire sepe.
Go a tlhokafala gore re atamele CIPA, re bue le bone gore a mme ba ka se ke ba kgone go re thusa gore fa monana a santse a le 35 years and below, a mme re ka se ke re dire gore bogolo mo returns tseo go nne le fa e leng gore re ka kgona gore re kope phokoletso teng.

Ke dikgang tse re di tsayang mofago tse e leng gore re dumela gore di botlhokwa fela thata.

O ne a supa gone fa gore o eme nokeng bid ya rona ya Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) ya 2027.

Re a leboga motlotlegi.


Honourable Mavange o ne a supa gore go na le dikatlego tse di bonalang.

O supile kgang ya Arts Council.

Re a leboga motlotlegi.

Ga re ise re atlege mo go kalo mo Arts Council.


Ke tlaa re fa ke re re atlegile e bo e le gore jaanong re setse re na le Chief Executive Officer (CEO) le babereki, Arts Council e setse e operate, e setse e na le madi a yone, a ba tlaabong ba kgona go dira dithulaganyo tsa bone, ba setse ba simolotse ba na le diofisi, e le gore badiragatsi jaanong ga ba sa tlhole ba tla go kopa dithuso mo lephateng la rona.

Ba ya gone kwa go bao ba e leng gore ba ka tlhaloganyana botoka.
Ke sa reye gore ba re nang le bone mo nakong ya gompieno mo lephateng ga ba ba tlhaloganye.

E bile bontsi ja bone re dumela gore ba tlaa nna le sebaka sa gore ba ba batlang go iteka kwa National Arts Council, ba ye gone koo go tsweledisa tiro e ba ntseng ba e dira e ntle mo lephateng le la rona.

Jaanong motlotlegi, le rona fela re itumetse jaaka wena, mme ke tlile go itumela le go feta fa Arts Council e tlaabo e simolotse to operate, badiragatsi ba rona ba setse ba kgona gore ba thusege jaaka re eletsa.
Kgang ya Dubai le yone ga o a e bua jaaka ba bangwe ba nyatsa, ba kgala ba supa gore go ne go tshamekiwa ka madi.
The exposure that we gave our artists gone koo, a ke ba fashion, ba ba opelang, ba ba rokang, ba bo ditlatlana jalojalo, re bone golo mo gore go tlile go bereka, mme e bile gape ke arabela kwa pele kakgelo ya ga Honourable Healy ya gore go ya Dubai e ne e le nngwe tsela ya go neela badiragatsi ba rona exposure gore tse ba di dirang, botaki, bokgeleke jwa bone, re bo neele lefatshe ka bophara, ka gore more than 190 countries ba ne ba supa kwa Dubai.
Mme fa go ntse jaana e le gore e ne e le sebaka sa gore batho ba re etele ba letso le le farologanyeng kwa pavilion ya rona, where we had displayed dintlenyane tsa rona from our artists, re kgonne go nna le sebaka sa gore pavilions tsa mafatshe a a farologanyeng, jaaka ke supile fa ke buisa Ntlo e gore bo Thailand, Australia, Brazil le ba bangwe, ba ne ba re file sebaka gore our artists bo Lizibo, Ntirelang Berman, ba ba neng ba ile gone koo, ba re neng re ba tsere ka December le maabane jaana ba re neng re tsamaile le bone, ba ye go bonwa ke ditšhaba tseo.
We are hoping gore ba kgonne go re ba bue le ba ba neng ba ba file sebaka seo.

Mo nakong e e tlang these international competition, ba kgone to lobby, re ba thusa le rona, gore re kgone go ba bona appearing kwa metshamekong eo ba natefisa.

Ka gone moo ba ka kgona go bona letseno.

Motlotlegi gape fela jaaka ba bangwe o buile ka mmabontlenyane wa rona, Mme Palesa Molefe.

A bua gore o leboga mmabontle wa rona, e bile gape o a itse ene gore ministry o ne o tsentse letsogo.
Jaanong mme re tle re thuse batlotlegi, ka gore ke utlwile Honourable Boko le ene a e bua kgang e ya ga Mme Palesa Molefe, e bile a e bua tota o kare o nyatsa thata se re se dirileng.

O nyatsa le gore re ne re seo fa Palesa Molefe a goroga.

Jaanong kana go botlhoko… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ke ne ke sa nyatse, ke ne ke sa nyatse.

MR RAKGARE: I can quote you verbatim Honourable Member …(inaudible)… MR BOKO: On a point of order.

Thank you Mr Chairperson, this is my point of order.
Fa ke supa khutsafalo kana ngongorego, ga ke nyatse.

So I think the Honourable Member is imputing improper motives on me.

Ga ke nyatse se se dirilweng, ke ne ke supa ngongorego ya gore gompieno mmabontle wa rona ga a amogelwa ka megolokwane le melodi e re neng re e solofetse.
I can give you an example, gompieno re bone 28 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Makhadzi a amogelwa ka megolokwane le melodi, e bile a apesitswe ditšhale, ke gore e bile gotwe o ka nna a fiwa le ene Tlokweng.

Mme mmabontle wa rona, yo e leng gore ke ngwana wa rona, ga a ka a fiwa the same prominence.

Ga go a hutsafatsa nna fela, go hutsafaditse le Batswana botlhe.
So ga re nyatse, re bua se se diragetseng.

He is out of order fa a re ke ne ke nyatsa.

Ga ke nyatse, ka re mme le ka bo le dirile botoka go gaisa se.

That is what I am saying.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Boko, ga o nyatse, so this is point of correction, not point of order.

Honourable Minister, quote mokaulengwe wa gago sentle.
MR RAKGARE: Fa a re, “we did not show support to our queen fa a goroga,” fa a supa gore Batswana are very disappointed in us, gore we were distance away from Palesa, golo mo ka bo gone Mr Chairperson ke go nyatsa.

Now let me share with Honourable Boko ka gore he is not … HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa ga se go nyatsa, ke go gakolola.

MR RAKGARE: Wena kana Setswana se a go sokodisa, le sone Sekgoa nako nngwe o a ne o bua sa chemistry.
Mma re tle re riane, Mr Chairperson, ga se gore nako le nako re tlile go nna re tsaya tse re di dirang re bo re di phatlalatsa le setšhaba.

Mo gongwe ga o thusetse gore kamoso batho ba bo ba bona gore o a thusa jaaka bo Honourable Boko, ba bo ba go galaletsa.

You do things behind the scenes, because you want to support, mme supporting o le Puso ka pelo e tshweu.

Now let me tell you what we did for our queen.

La ntlha fela we reached out to her fa a le kwa Puerto Rico.
Mme gongwe ra se ka ra kgone go buisana le ene, le ntswa re ne re dirile tse re di dirileng pele fa a emelela a ya legatong la ntlha kwa Puerto Rico.

Ya re fa a boa kwa ra kopana nae.

I personally met our queen in my office, go mo amogela, go mo solofetsa gore Batswana ba mo eme nokeng jaaka a bone.

We did not receive her at the airport, Batswana ba ne ba itumetse, they went there.

She was very happy and re ne re sa batle gore kamoso e bo ele gore jaanong we stole the limelight.
Gone ga tsamaya jalo, go le monate.

Fa re le mmogo re mo solofeditse Honourable Boko, mme tsholofetso eo ra e diragatsa.

Ra mmolelela gore re ne ra utlwa gore o ne wa nna le mathata a bo tickets tsa go fofela kwa Puerto Rico jalo le jalo, as a ministry we are going to fly you to Puerto Rico, business class.

We are going to give you a living allowance, fa o tlaabo o le kwa Puerto Rico.

We are going to fly your mother to Puerto Rico, we are also going to take care of your wardrobe.
This is what we did for our queen.

Nako e yotlhe all the way re ne re na le ene, ga re tlhoke gore re bo re palama kwa godimo ga buildings tse di telelelele re bolelela Honourable Boko gore, this is what we did for our queen.

Ours ke go thusa ka lorato re le Puso.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: I am speaking on behalf of Batswana, it is not about me.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Boko, give the Minister a chance.
MR RAKGARE: Ka fa re lebileng ka teng Mr Chairperson, mmabontlenyane wa rona did us proud re le Batswana, mme ga go felele fa.

There is still a lot that she can offer to this country.

Ke monana yoo buelelang banana, o a ne a supa gore mme ene fa a leng teng golo moo go supa talente ya ngwana wa Motswana.

Not ene fela, gore se a se supang kana se a leng sone ke bokao jwa gore re le Botswana re ntse ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Re agegile jang, e bile gape what is it that we can offer to the world.
We even took her to the President, His Excellency o ne a mo atla, a mo amogela, a mo neela le dimpho, mme e bile gape a mo neela mafoko a kgotlhatso.

A mmolelela gore, ke le Tautona wa ga go ga mmogo le Batswana re go eme nokeng.

Le mo maranyaneng Tautona o ne a ntse a mo kgotlhatsa.
Jaanong gore e bo e le gore re ne re baakanyetsa tiro e jaaka re le e neela jaana mo letsatsing la gompieno, re bo re sa kgone go ya go amogela mmabontlenyane wa rona, e bile gape re ikopile mo go ene, re mmoleletse gore motho wa Modimo re tlaabo re seo o se ka wa re re go latlhile...ga re tlhoke gore re bo re dira conference call re tsenya Boko mo teng gore a utlwe.

Mr Chairperson, ke batla go tswelela ka gore go gontsinyana mo go neng go builwe.
Jaaka ke supile ga ke ka ke ka nna ke ntse ke tsaya batlotlegi ka bongwe ka bongwe.

Mo gongwe ke soboke ka dikgang tse di tshwanang le tsa bo Youth Development Fund (YDF) gore tota maikaelelo a rona ke gore YDF e dire bontle go fela ka fa e dirang bontle ka teng.

Ke supile gore re na le dingwe tsa businesses tse e leng gore they are doing very well ba e leng gore they started with ma P100 000.
Sengwe se se sa jeseng diwelang Mr Chairperson le batlotlegi ke gore, bangwe ba ga rona gongwe ga re dire mo go lekaneng re le mmogo go rotloetsa bana ba rona go tlhaloganya gore go bereka mmogo go ka ba thusa go feta ka fa ba dirang ka teng mo nakong ya gompieno.

29 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Mongwe o ne a bua ka dikoporase, re na le dikoporase Mr Chairperson.
Re na le koporase e e kwa Moralane, Xamkachee Multipurpose Cooperative.

Ba itebagantse le dikgang tsa small stock.

Re na le Batalaote le Desert Survival Multipurpose Cooperative.

Re na le tse dingwe fela jalo.

Re na le dingwe tsa dikoporase tsa banana, mo banana ba ikopantseng ba dira mmogo.
Ke go bolelela ke go raya Mr Chairperson fa batlotlegi ba ka tla kwa go nna ba le 57, mongwe le mongwe wa bone a re, koporase ke e Tona, re kopa o re thuse, bana ba ikopantse ba le bo 20 go feta, go tlile go nna motlhofotlhofo gore re ba thuse ka re tlaabo re itse gore re ntshitse bana ka dipalo tse dintsi mo mekgwatheng.

Sone seo gape se tlile go re thusa gore jaanong lemme le re le ba neelang e bo le ka kgona go dira tiro e tona, kamoso go be go nna le impact mo matshelong a banana.
Jaanong mo re sekasekang banana ba tla as individuals, ke kopa P100 000 le le lephata, yo mongwe le ene jalo le jalo, madi a kgantele ga a nne enough.

O fitlhela e le gore jaanong ba tlhokana le gore fale le fale ba nne ba tswelele to patch.

Quality is compromised fa e le gore madi ga a lekane.

E ne e le thotoetso e ke neng ke re ke tle ke e neele batlotlegi, re itse gore re tshwanelwa ke gore re tle re leke go dira jalo.

Honourable Mavange, o ne a bua ka Masunga Stadium.


Botswana National Sport Committee ke ka go solofela ba lebile dikgang tseo.

Re ba file lemmennyana la maintenance, Masunga le yone e mo teng Honourable Member.

Ba tlaa e sekaseka ba bone gore ba thusa ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Honourable Makwinja le ene o buile.

Ke re Honourable Makwinja, a re tshwaragane motho wa ga rona.

Fa re bua ka kgang e ya ditsela yes it is problem.


A re tshwaragane mme mo gongwe re se ka ra rwesa bo Honourable Segokgo mokgweleo fela, re na le dikhansele tsa rona.

When I speak in this Parliament ka the level of corruption e e leng gore some of dikhansele tsa rona re a e itemogela, we must be together.

We must speak with one voice, gore dilo tse di fele.
Fa dilo tse di fedile Honourable Makwinja tsela ya gago ya Mmopane e e leng gore fela fa o tswa fa Bokamoso o lebile kwa Metsimotlhabe ke mathata a a seng ka naka sepe, e makotlopolo, fa dipula di nele ke mathata.

Tsela eo re ka e kgona fa re bua ka voice e nngwefela ka gore golo mo fa go gopa ditsela kgapetsakgapetsa dikatakata di le teng, go ka re thusa temporarily fa Rre Segokgo le Rre Autlwetse ba santse ba senka madi a go re thusa.
Jaanong a re bue ka lentswe le lengwefela re thusane ka gore golo mo go botlhokwa thata gore dilo tse fa di diragala, re kgaleme gore kgang e ya access to market e nne motlhofo mo bananeng to transport their products go sena mathata a a kalokalo.

Re a dumalana Minister gore golo mo re tshwanetse go go lebelela mmogo.

Dikgang tsa bo Green Climate Fund e teng re e dirise, re tlaa patagana le Mme Mma Kereng.

Ke mme yo o pelonomi thata, o siame, she is always available to assist our young people.
Re dumela gore dilo tse re tlaa di pataganela, re tlaa di kgona Motlotlegi Tona fa re tshwaragane.

O file sekai ka bo Kenya; ke boammaaruri go na le tse ba itekang ba di dira mme go na le fa ba tlhaelang teng, re dirang bontle go ba gaisa.

Motlotlegi Lucas o buile dikgang di le mmalwa, a bua ka bo letlhoko la ditiro jalo le jalo.

Ke boammaruri, I did acknowledge mathata a mo go yone puo ya me gore re na le mathata a letlhoko la ditiro a a tshwenyang.
Ga gona ope mo Pusong ya rona yo o iseng a tsamae a tlhoke go tshwenyega ka letlhoko la ditiro.

Matona otlhe, Bathusa Tona botlhe, Mapalamente, re bua ka letlhoko la ditiro.

Re santse re bua gore golo mo ke kgang e e botlhoko e re tshwanetseng go bona gore re e tshwaraganela ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Motlotlegi fa o bua ka P1.3 wa internship, a re e tlhaloganye jaana re se ka ra tlhakatlhakanya dikgang; re neela bana ba rona lemmenyana le ka gore ra re we are preparing them for the world of work through internship.

Fa e le gore o ka tshogana a nna le lesego a hirwa, kana ga se gore o ya go amogela P1.3, o tlaabo a simolola jaanong go tsena mo structure sa pay sa Puso se se kwa Directorate of Public Service Management (DPSM).
Fa a tsenang teng fela, entry point re a itse gore badirelapuso ba duelwa jang, gone moo e tlaabo e le mo re ka reng dituelo.

The P1.3 yo re mo mo neelang re bo re baya P100 re mmolokela gore fa a fetsa re mo neele, ao one ga se madi a re ka reng re a bo re mo duela.

Kgang ya lefatshe Motlotlegi Lucas, ke boammaaruri.

Fa o ya kwa mafelong a tshwana le bo Moshaweng, Lecheng, Moralane le Moiyabana jaaka ke ne ke bua kgantele, re na le land banks gone koo.
Re dumela gore tsone tse ka gore re ntse re tsweletse ka go leka go baakanya gore re felele kamoso re tsenya banana ka dipalo tse dintsi mo mafatsheng a, e le gore jaanong ba a dira, re ba thusa go ntsha dijo, go rua jalo le jalo.

Re na gape le Setšhaba Project ya rona e re e dirang, e re e tlhoafaletseng, e e leng gore Motlotlegi Mothusa Tona o ne a le koo maabanenyana jaana.
A ile go bona gore 30 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) mme gone progress e ntse jang kwa lefelong leo la rona le le kwa Mmankgodi kwa kgaolong ya ga Honourable Kagiso Mmusi.

Ke ka go bolelela gore mo nakong e e gaufi, re tlaabo re brief Palamente ka gore re tsamaya ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Mme Monnakgotla le wena ke a go leboga, support ya gago mo lephateng la rona e kwa godimo thata.

Kgang ya Re Ba Bona Fa, re leboge Debswana; maloba ba ne ba sitlhamolola madi a a seng kana ka sepe, fa ke gakologelwa e kare it was around P6 million.

Ba oketsa tumalano ya bone le Botswana National Sport Commission (BNSC) gore ba ya go tswelela ba rotloetsa thulaganyo e ya Re Ba Bona Fa.
Re tseetse sport development kwa godimo thata, especially grassroots, re batla go bona bana ba rona ba gola ba tlhagoga go tswa gone kwa tlase.

Ba tla with basics tse di botlhokwa tse re tshwanetseng go di ba neela fa ba santse ba le dingwaga tse di kwa tlase koo.

O ne o leboga ka modiragatsi wa gago yo o neng a ile Dubai, re batla go nna jalo.

Ngwana yo o kwa Ngwatle ene yoo, a ipone a le kwa Dubai.
Ke ne ka nna le sebaka sa go ba buisa fa ba sena go goroga kwa Dubai, re itswaletse mo ntlong, ba leboga fela thata.

Yo mongwe a re, “ke ne ke sa itse gore a ke ka ipona fela ke dule mo Seronga gotwe ke mo Dubai, mo ditsela di leng dintle jaana, ke ipona fela ke tswa koo mme re a leboga, le le Puso le re tshwere sentle.” Honourable Pule le ene o ne a leboga ka leeto la rona.

We want to do more Honourable Pule.


Re batla go tla kwa go lona, re batla go ya kwa dikgaolong tsotlhe tsa lefatshe la Botswana go bona gore banana ba tsweletse ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Re dumela gore gone moo go ka re thusa go itse le go feta gore mme banana ba iteka go le kae jalo le jalo.

O buile fa ka bangwe ba ba itekang, rakgwebo yo o kwa Ramonaka.

Re a ba rotloetsa, re rotloetsa mongwe le mongwe Honourable Pule.
Metshameko kwa dikoleng re buile ka yone maloba gore re batla go bona e tlhabologile.

Ba BNSC gompieno re tshwaragane le bone le ba Basic Education go bona gore mme gone re ya go dira jang go tlhabolola metshameko kwa dikoleng go feta ka fa e ntseng e diragala ka teng.

Re tshwanetse go bona bana ba rona kwa dikoleng ba tshameka letsatsi le letsatsi, kgapetsakgapetsa, ngwaga otlhe.
E seng jaaka gongwe re fitlhela e le gore re a dira, fale le fale re a kapetsakapetsa, bana ba tshwanetse go tshameka ba lape.

Fa ba sena go lapa fa ba tsena kwa malwapeng, ba bo ba tsaya dibuka ba bala.

Metshameko karolo ya yone ke eo.

Golo mo re dumela gore ka tshwaragano ya rona le maphata a mangwe, re tlaa go kgona.

Jaaka ke buile batlotlegi, ga ke ka ke ka le tsaya ka bongwe ka bongwe mme ke tlaa nna ke ntse ke nopola ka gore ke tshwanetse go sutelela fa pele ke digele.
Honourable Boko ke dumela gore ke mo arabile.

O ne a bua gape le ka bone bo constituency tournaments.

Nnyaa di tlaa boela, ke buile gore mathata e ne e le COVID-19, mme ga di na go boela jaaka di ne di ntse pele.

Mo gongwe re tshwanetse go nna sensitive to ba e leng gore le bone ba ntse ba le mo metshamekong, mabala jalo le jalo jaaka Rre Motaosane a supile.
Re bone gore mme gone ga re kgoreletsane mme e bile ga re gatake melao ya international sport organisations jaaka bo Federation Internationale de Football Association (FIFA) le mekgatlho e mengwe e e metona jalo le jalo.

Golo mo re tlile go go dira, re tlaa bua le lona batlotlegi gore mme re go dira ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

E ya go itumelela the P4 million wa repayment gore re bo re ntse re rotloetsa banana jaaka Rre Segokgo a buile, ke kgang e re e itumelelang.
E bile re a utlwa motlotlegi, re tlile go e oketsa.

Ngwana wa gago yo o dirang blinds a re mo tshwaraganele, re mo rotloetse le go feta.

Makhadzi o tlaabo a le kwa Tlokweng ka Saturday, ke laleditswe, re tlaabo re le mmogo gone koo re ile go ja tanse Honourable Segokgo.

A re tseye Honourable Boko, re tle re nne re tlotla le ene sentle, re mo tame re mo reye re re mme kana motlotlegi, mo gongwe go dirwa ka tsela e e ntseng jaana.
E tle e re a lebile Makhadzi, gongwe o ka itumela thata dipuo tse dingwe tse ra di fokotsa, e le ka fa Makhadzi a binang ka teng.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke tlaabo ke seyo.

MR RAKGARE: Nnyaa, o tlaabo o le teng, re tlile go go laletsa, re tlaabo re le mmogo.

Honourable Motaosane, le wena fela jalo re a leboga.

Le tsone tse o di kopang tsa bo youth centre, re tlaa buisana Honourable Member ka dikgang tseo tsa gago tse o nang le ngongora ka tsone.
Ke dumalana le wena ka tsone gore go botlhokwa gore tota fela re di tsenye leitlho mme re leke go go atamela re go thuse.

Library ya Thamaga le yone fela, re na le dithebenyana tsa maintenance.

Re tlaa tlhola gore mo lemmeng le re le filweng, a go na le sengwe se re ka kgonang go se seegela fa thoko for library ya Thamaga.
31 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2200 –MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Dikakanyo tse o tlang ka tsone gore re ka fetola constituency tournaments ka tsela e e ntseng jang, mme e bile o supa Honourable Motaosane gore o e eme nokeng.

O ne o akanya gore dilo dingwe di ka dirwa, ra leka go e fetola fale le fale.

Re a dumalana a re bue, kana e bile wena o motho wa bolo.
Ga ke itse gore a ba a itse gore o ne o e raga o le sethakga thata, o ne o le motshameka gare wa tlhwatlhwa.

Honourable Motsamai o ne a bua gore o batla stadium kwa Charles Hill e bile o ipotsa gore a ke santse ke re fa re ka se mo neela, o ka nona.

Nnyaa Honourable Motsamai, o setse o nonne gale, Palamente e setse e go nontshitse ka boyone mme ke dumela gore fa madi a bonetse, re ka tla koo ra go thusa… MR CHAIRPERSON: Ka re o a ragela ngwanaka.

Heish batho!
Heish batho!

MR RAKGARE: …Mopalamente wa me, re ka tla ra go thusa.

Kana tota jaaka o ntse o utlwa, Honourable Pule o ne a lela ka Kgatleng, o lela sentle.

Honourable Pule le Honourable Modukanele ga ba mphe boroko gore ao Minister, re ntshitse dithakga tsa kgwele ya dinao tse di itsegeng lefatshe la Botswana ka bophara, a wa re ga re deserve go nna le stadium?
Ke bangwe ba batho ba ba buang le rona, mme le wena fela jalo Honourable Motsamai, nako nngwe o tlaa nona go feta ka fa o nonneng ka teng, ke a go solofetsa nkgonne.

Re tlaa nna re ntse re lebaleba.

Fa sengwe se le teng, o tlaabo jaanong o lekana le mongwe yo ke ka se keng ke mmue o ke itseng gore o nonne.

Mr Chairperson in conclusion, this concludes my presentation of 2022/2023 Recurrent and Development Budget request for my ministry.
I therefore, move that the sum of Nine Hundred and Sixty- Four Million, Nine Hundred and Sixty-Four Thousand and Sixty Pula (P964 964 060) under Recurrent Budget for Organisation 2200 be approved and stand part of the Schedule of the Appropriation (2022/2023) Bill, and that the sum of Forty-Seven Million, Five Hundred and Seventy-Thousand, Two Hundred and Twenty- Five Pula (P47 570 225) for Organisation 2200 under the Development Budget be approved and stand part of those estimates, for the financial year 2022/2023.
I move accordingly Mr Chairperson.

I thank you for everything, le nako e o re e fileng, le boineelo jwa gago Mr Chairperson.

Ke go rata thata Mr Chairperson.

A Modimo a go segofatse.

A Modimo a go sireletse.

Ke a leboga.

Question put and agreed to.

ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that two hours 50 minutes has been allocated to this organisation.
I shall call upon the Honourable Minister to reply to the debate at 12:20 tomorrow.

The question will be put at 12:50 tomorrow.

Honourable Healy e ne e le ene wa bofelo a bua gore mme dikakanyo tsa gagwe ke eng, a leka gore a re di fe.

Dikakanyo tseo Honourable Healy le dikgalaletso tsa gago tsotlhe re a di amogela.

Target ya rona ya gore re etele dikgaolo jaaka re dirile o re galaletsa, re a leboga.

Ke ne ke re a dikgalaletso di ye kwa bodireding jwa rona.
Golo fa re na le team ya rona re e bitsa the vigor team.

Kwano letsatsi ga le phirime, re nna re thinkgetse fela go simolola ka Permanent Secretary (PS) go ya go tsena kwa go wa bofelo; ba ba phephafatsang, bakgweetsi.

Lephata le le tshotse batho ba ba nang le boineelo… MINISTER OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (DR LETSHOLATHEBE): Thank you so much Mr Chairperson.
Mr Chairperson, I have the honour to present to you and this Honourable House, my ministry’s budget estimates for the financial year 2022/2023.

In pursuit of a knowledge-driven economy through educational transformation and investing in research and innovation, my ministry continues to dedicate resources towards this aim as shown in the allocation of this budget.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Move Honourable Minister.

MR RAKGARE: Ke a sutisa Mr Chairperson, ke a bona gore nako e tsamaile.
Kwa bofelong gape, ke boe ke leboge batlotlegi ka mafoko a mantle a re utlwileng ba re a neela re le lephata.

Dikakgelo tsa bone re di tsere le fa ke sa kgona go di araba tsotlhe.

Mr Chairperson, my ministry proposes an estimated total budget of Three Billion, Four Hundred and Sixty- Six Million, One Hundred and Twenty-Eight Thousand, One Hundred and Thirty Pula (P3 466 128 130), for the financial year 2022/2023.
This comprises of Three Billion, Two Hundred and Fifty-Eight Million, Seven Hundred and Nighty-One Thousand, Three Hundred and Thirty Pula (P3 258 791 330) for the Recurrent 32 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply Budget and Two Hundred and Seven Million, Three Hundred and Thirty-Six Thousand, Eight Hundred Pula (P207 336 800) for the Development Budget.
Mr Chairperson, my presentation, particularly regarding budget line items, is aligned to address national priorities as well as the Reset Agenda.

The budget is clearly aimed at, among others, ensuring more efficient Government spending and financing, building human capital, value chain development and digitalisation.

Mr Chairperson, I will initially focus on appraising this Honourable House on how my ministry performed on some of its major activities during the 2021/2022 financial year.
Mr Chairperson, my ministry is committed to contribute to capacity building, diversification of employment, as well as advances in research and development, through development and implementation of policies and strategies in key strategic areas.
In this regard, my ministry has advanced progress on the development of the following strategies: National Space Science and Technology Strategy; Indigenous Knowledge Systems Strategy; Science Communication and Public Engagement Strategy and Private Sector Engagement Strategy.

Research and Innovation Mr Chairperson, the development of the National Research Ethics and Integrity Policy shall commence during 2022/23.
Mainstreaming and institutionalisation of research ethics across various institutions involved in research is of high importance.

The introduction of the Research and Ethics Policy will help research institutions and individual researchers to conform and adhere to local and global research ethics considerations.

This shall prevent research misconduct in our research and innovation community.
Mr Chairperson, my ministry has been working around the clock to set up the core to start igniting action in the research and innovation space.

We have embarked on extensive consultation with our research and innovation ecosystem on issues that affect them.

Through virtual engagements and others, it is very clear that much work still has to be done to level the research and innovation landscape in Botswana and other countries.
As a result of these engagements, my ministry secured a total amount of P45 million to stimulate and support local research and innovation, as well as to build capacity in different economic sectors.

As a ministry, we have stepped up our efforts to establish a National Research Fund.

The National Research Fund accounts for a complete research value chain with positive societal impact.
The Fund will guard against loss of intellectual property through enforcement of intellectual property management processes.

Institutions entering into partnerships will guard against loss of intellectual property and protect Botswana from being a ‘petri dish’ of research.
Teacher Training and Technical Education Mr Chairperson, in an effort to drive the agenda for Botswana’s socio-economic development aspirations as per the Vision 2036; as we want to ‘graduate from being an Upper-Middle-Income Country (UMIC) to a High Income Country (HIC) with prosperity for all’, my ministry endeavours to focus on capacitating our young people in tertiary education and in particular drive the mind-set change towards embracing Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVET) programmes.
TVET is critical in advancing the aspirations of the transformation agenda of Botswana.

To this end, my ministry is committed in the transformative approach to TVET programmes towards a knowledge-based economy.

There is need to intrinsically move towards the Green TVET and produce key skills and capacities for a Non-Fossil mobility.

The COVID-19 pandemic has further emphasised the need to explore new green and digital competencies in TVET.
Mr Chairperson, my ministry has aligned itself with the General Education and Curriculum Assessment Framework (GECAF) from the Ministry of Basic Education.

Therefore, we have decided and are committed to ending Diploma level training for teachers, as it has been echoed in the recently approved GECAF, which has called for phasing out of Diploma qualifications in favour of Degree qualifications for teachers at primary and secondary levels.
Public Safety and Security in the Use of Nuclear Technology Mr Chairperson, Botswana continues to maintain its commitment towards peaceful and beneficial use of nuclear technology through my ministry’s regulatory oversight strategy.

The strategy ensures radiation safe work areas and environments by promoting secure use of nuclear technologies.
Thus far, the strategy is yielding good results as it could be seen by the high compliance 33 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply levels and absence of nuclear security events in country.

PARASTATALS Mr Chairperson, my ministry we have eight parastatals which I want to quickly look through before I could end my presentation.
Human Resource Development Council (HRDC) Mr Chairperson, my ministry has in the past year completed the Statement of User Requirements (SOUR) for the development of an online Fund administration system (eHRDF).

The process for development of the system is planned to commence during 2022/23 financial year.

Amongst other benefits, the system will also be a response to Government’s call to bring efficiency in the provision of services through digitisation of services across all sectors.
Mr Chairperson, HRDC has thus developed a Content Management Strategy (CMS) and Metadata Handbook to guide the management and exchange of information in a structured and systematic manner in analysing labour market trends in Botswana.

The Labour Market Information System (LMIS) project is currently at an advanced tender stage and is expected to be awarded and commissioned at the beginning of the 2022/23 financial year.
Botswana International University of Science and Technology (BIUST) Mr Chairperson, the second institution or parastatal I want to look at is BIUST.

The university hosts the Research Chair of the Science Granting Council Initiative (SGCI).

BIUST is also leading the Cube Satellite project where the aim is to launch a satellite by June 2023, this will enable the country to capture data that will allow us to implement and practice smart agriculture, and address various aspects in the tourism sector.
This project is progressing well, as indicated earlier, the target launch date still remains as June 2023.

Also in the pipeline is the establishment of Botswana Institute for Nuclear Science and Technology (BINST).

The facility will include radioactive waste management and storage facility.

Botswana Accountancy College (BAC) Mr Chairperson, the Botswana Accountancy College (BAC) remains one of the few successful Public Private Partnerships (PPP) projects in the country.
As we speak, the state-of-the-art facility housing two academic faculties, campus library, teaching, learning and industry skills centres is well underway, and is expected to be completed by October 2022.

In building a robust economy driven by knowledge and innovation, the college has successfully implemented Digitisation Projects such App Factory Business Incubation and others.
University of Botswana (UB) Mr Chairperson, the University of Botswana has come up with a strategy to turnaround the institution.

Remember this is the institution which based we based our hopes on as is the first public university we had as a country.

One of the project is the Software Development Hub and the Information Communication Technology (ICT) Virtual Campus.
Software Development Hub and ICT Virtual Campus The Software Development Hub would harness the development and experience gathered in using external off the-shelf software packages that have been in use, to develop local branded software applications that appeal to the local and indigenous requirements.

High Performance Sports Centre The other one is the High Performance Sport Center which will be very, very much ideal for use by the sportsmen from the Ministry of Sports.
In line with the University of Botswana’s Vision 2029 of “Creating a Future for the Knowledge Generation” and the aspirations of Botswana in becoming a knowledge- based economy; the University of Botswana has established a high-performance centre, which will serve as a multifunctional and multi-disciplinary facility unit, dedicated to developing and enhancing the sporting talent.
Botswana Digital and Innovation Hub (BDIH) The other parastatal which I want to quickly look through is the Botswana Digital and Innovation Hub formerly known as the Botswana Innovation Hub (BIH), launched the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Support (IKSS) programme in January 2022.

This was driven by the desire to enhance grassroots innovations and promote culture and language.

BDIH will roll out the IKSS program in partnership with key stakeholders to support rural economic development efforts nationwide.
BDIH partnered with the Alliance for accelerating Excellence in Science in Africa (AESA) of the African Academy of Sciences (AAS) to be part of the Grand 34 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply Challenges Africa family.

In terms of innovation funding, we continue to see a steady increase in the number of start-ups receiving funding from the BDIH fund.
More than 800 applications have been received across five calls for proposals with 29 under implementation to date.

Notably, during the first few months of the COVID-19 pandemic, the fund was used to respond to the challenges presented, calling on all Botswana innovators to develop solutions that would address the challenges posed by the pandemic.
Botswana Open University (BOU) Mr Chairperson, in operationalising its mandate, BOU has developed a roadmap that serves to guide the institution’s pathway to the year 2036.

The BOU 2036 Strategic Framework is divided into four incremental phases starting with the period 2019-2023 for which a strategic plan has been drawn and is being implemented.
Mr Chairperson, so far our key achievements include Students Enrolment and Success, where tertiary enrolment numbers were above the stated targets for those consecutive years to date, and had even exceeded the stretch target for the entire strategy period in 2020/21.
Botswana Qualification Authority (BQA) Mr Chairperson, in an effort to optimise implementation of National Credit and Qualification Framework (NCQF), we have the Botswana Qualification Authority which tries to help us to help our institutions to come up with learning programmes and qualifications which can be put up under the NCQF.
We want to encourage our Education and Training Providers (ETPS) to have programmes and learning qualifications which are in the framework, so that they could easily transmit their credits, students could easily enroll in one university and then complete their studies in another institution.

We have been seeing some challenges in getting ETPs to enroll in the NCPF, but we are doing our best Mr Chairperson.
Botswana Institute for Technology Research and Innovation (BITRI) BITRI has developed a new strategic plan covering the period 2021-2026.

Mr Chairperson, during the 2021/22 financial year, BITRI engaged in various projects as named below.

I will choose one project to which I know is of interest the E-Mobility.

Botswana Electric-Mobility Programme Mr Chairperson, my ministry has been assigned to look at the capacity building of the E-Mobility.
BITRI has been assigned to look at and coming up with student training students in the area of e-Mobility, and we have been assigned to look at the value chain to see how it could do in some areas of the E-Mobility.

2022/2023 RECURRENT BUDGET Mr Chairperson, let me quickly look at the proposals.

I shall now present the budget proposal for the financial year 2022/2023 Head 2700.
Mr Chairperson, the sum of Three Billion, Two Hundred and Fifty-Eight Million, Seven Hundred and Ninety-One Thousand, Three Hundred and Thirty Pula (P3,258,791,330) is proposed for my ministry’s Recurrent Expenditure.

This shows a decrease of 43.49 per cent compared to 2021/2022 budget allocation.

The decrease includes the tuition fees amounting to P1,027,786,180.
PARASTATALS Mr Chairperson, parastatals in my ministry have been given some money which has been reduced by 5 per cent, even though the parastatals are not commercial as being put up by the Minister of Finance.

DEVELOPMENT BUDGET In the Development Budget, my ministry’s overall proposal for the financial year 2022/2023 is Two Hundred and Seven Million, Three Hundred and Thirty- Six Thousand, Eight Hundred Pula (P207,336,800.00) has been given for the Development Budget.
This proposed budget is dominated by the Research and Development Programme which constitutes close to three quarters (75 per cent) of the amount.

Mr Chairperson, of this amount, the sum of Sixty- Four Million Pula, One Hundred and Eighty Thousand (P64,180,000.00) will be channelled towards Innovation and Research Funds as well as Research Capacity Building; which are very critical in Botswana’s Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan (ERTP) and going forward.
The other amount of Ninety Million, Nine Hundred and Fifty-Six Thousand, Eight Hundred Pula (P90,956,800.00) will go to the ongoing Botswana Institute for Technology Research and Innovation (BITRI) research projects and implementation of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Policy.
Mr Chairperson, the remaining 25 per cent or Fifty-Two 35 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply Million Two Hundred Thousand Pula (P52,200,000.00) of the proposed Development Budget spans across three programmes being; MoTE computerisation, MoTE infrastructure and maintenance as well as detection and disposal of radioactive materials.

I thank you Mr Chairperson.


MR CHAIRPERSON: You must move; you must say, ‘I therefore move that the sum of…’ DR LETSHOLATHEBE: I, therefore, move that the sum of Three Billion, Two Hundred and Fifty-Eight Million, Seven Hundred and Nighty-One Thousand, Three Hundred and Thirty Pula (P3,258,791,330) for the Recurrent Budget, be approved and stand part of the Schedule for the 2022/2023 Appropriation Bill (No.
2 of 2022) for Organisation 2700 and the sum of Two Hundred and Seven Million, Three Hundred and Thirty- Six Thousand, Eight Hundred Pula (P207,336,800) for Organisation 2700 in the Development Fund estimates be approved and form part of those estimates.

I so move Mr Chairperson.

I thank you.

MR CHAIRPERSON: That is the way to move Honourable Minister.

Thank you.

The first slot is for Honourable Dr Tshabang.

DR TSHABANG (NKANGE): Thank you Mr Chairperson.


I am taking this opportunity to react and support Dr Douglas Letsholathebe’s ministry’s budget.

Let me start by thanking the Minister for a comprehensive presentation.

I also acknowledge that we met at the Committee Stage kwa komiting ya Information and Communication Technology (ICT) and we have deliberated.

I will be reiterating the same points that I have presented to you before.
First, let me also acknowledge some developments that are interesting and shows that the ministry is taking good direction in some of the issues.

We welcome the Research Ethics and Integrity Committee.

It has been a long way coming.

It took a long time to come but at least it is there to guide researchers and also decipher and give out good research guidelines to researchers.

Secondly, I also welcome the establishment of the National Research Fund.

It is long overdue as well.


Researchers in this country; scientists and engineers and all research professionals have been looking for this kind of fund and I believe it is not just going to stay stagnant.

It is also going to grow the expectation that is normally expected worldwide as a standard that 2 to 3 per cent of the national Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is awarded to research and development.
In future, we want to see 2 to 3 per cent of national development budget being allocated to this research fund.

That is when we can grow our research.

Honourable Minister, you mentioned that you are encouraging online learning and teaching in our universities and higher education.
I want to know whether we are still going to use the old methods where universities or institutions deposit materials online and leave it there, and the students are going to struggle to retrieve the material because most institutions do not provide the necessary resources like laptops, printing materials and so forth and so forth.

I think we would like that one to come out clear from your ministry on whether you have provisions in all the institutions.
I know that there are some institutions that provide at first year, but some do not.

I want to see whether you have clear guidelines on whether the students have resources.

We do not want a situation where we have 19th century resources and 21st century students.

That will be a big mismatch Honourable Minister.


I also want to know the kind of support you have for tertiary education in terms of your technical colleges because there is a very clear sign that there are lack of resources in those institutions.

Lack of computers, Wi-Fi, dilapidated printers in colleges, furniture in laboratories is old and stuff like that.

They still use plastic chairs in those institutions.

Internet is a problem, air-conditioning is not working, so, we are still using old equipment.
In modern day technical colleges, we want you to use modern equipment.

I think you should pay attention to such kind of things Honourable Minister.

We also have a problem in private tertiary institution providers where most of the employees are non-citizens and mainly because these institutions want what they call cheap labour and this cheap labour mainly come from non-citizens.
I know that most of the time when we raise this issue, you tell us that this is a labour issue and maybe it should be addressed by the relevant Ministry of Labour.

I understand, and you also understand as somebody from higher education, that there is a need for an internationalisation policy when it comes to recruitment and appointments.

You should have influence from your ministry; an internationalisation policy when it comes to employment.
This will give a balance in terms of the number of citizens compared to the number of non-citizens.

Normally, this internationalisation policy is between 20 and 30 per cent of internationals or non-citizens in institutions not the 36 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply other way round where you have 70 per cent or mostly dominated by non-citizens.
So, it is usually 20 to 30 per cent for non-citizens and 70 per cent to 80 per cent in favour of citizens.

So, I think your ministry should look at that.

I also looked at your budget for higher education institutions of about P1.5 billion.

I think this is very- very low Minister, and you should be able to argue in favour of these institutions.
We have critical institutions like the UB, BIUST, Botswana Open University (BOU) and BAC which are doing very well and absorbing most of the students and most of the crème de la crème of the students who come from the secondary schools.

So, I think if we are serious Honourable Minister, I do not think you can give UB P700 million and Botswana Institute for Technology Research and Innovation (BITRI) P400 million, that is too low.

In fact, that is half of the expected budget to run those universities.
The same applies to BOU and BAC.

While we are talking about these parastatals, I think there are some of parastatals in your ministry that really the public has not got value for money or return on investment.

You have one of the most obscure parastatals like Botswana Innovation Hub.

It is really like a virtual institution.

Batswana do not understand what this institution offers.
And if it is about innovation, if you talk about innovation and research, this concept should be housed under institution that does research and innovation.

So, this virtual institution tota to me it is one of those institutions that must be removed from your list of parastatals or transferred to BITRI where they deal with innovation.
I think this digital and innovation hub thing is no longer working, it has been there for more than 10 years, and I will call upon you Minister to do something about this thing.

The other thing Honourable Minister is that we do have skills gap in the market.

So, we need HRDC to investigate or research the skills needed in the market so that we can train for those skills at higher education institutions.
We cannot talk about training just to churn out graduates that are going to move or loiter in the streets without having looked at the needs the market needs.

So, I think we need that match to try and close the skills gap.

Let me also acknowledge that it is a good thing that graduates from our universities still find placement in overseas universities, which is a good thing.

So, we must keep up the good work.

Graduates from UB, BIUST and BAC still find placement in higher Degrees like Masters and PhD.
So we need to encourage that kind of thing.

Lastly, I think when you leave this ministry, you should have given us at least a technical college in my constituency.

Tutume is becoming a big village and it is a centre in the north.

You have not looked at us kindly.

When you leave o le ngwana wa kwa gae le wena o re akanyetse jaaka ba bangwe ba a tle ba akanyetse ba bangwe, ba agile dipatela kwa ga bone tse di tonatona but on a rational basis.
With that, I think I need to acknowledge the work that you have done with the ministry, and hope that you will develop further and make sure that the sphere of higher education gets the value it deserves.

Thank you very much.

MR REGOENG (MOLEPOLOLE NORTH): Ke a dumedisa Modulasetilo mme e bile ke leboge gore o bo o mpha sebaka se gore le nna ke latlhele a le mabedi mo pegong ya madi e re sa tswang go e bewa ke Tona wa Thuto e Kgolwane.

Ke simolole fela ka go mo le boga rraetsho.


Ke mo leboge ka lebaka la gore fa e sale a tsena mo lephateng, my interaction le ene mo dinakong tse dintsi, ke motho yo o supang a tlhoafetse e bile a batla go tlisa diphetogo tse di maleba mo lephateng le.

Ke re Honourable Dr Letsholathebe, e tshware fela jalo wa ga mma.

Ke se re se eletsang se re se lebileng.


Tota e bile fa nne mo mading a o a filweng a fa e ne e se gore ga re na madi re le lefatshe, kampo ene Tona wa Madi a re madi ga a yo, ke ka bo ke kopa gore ba oketse budget e ya gago ka gore e nnyennyane.

Ke buisiwa se ke lebaka la gore le lengwe la maphata a a eteletseng pele gore fa le filwe madi le bo le a dirisa.

Ke sone se se botlhokwa.


O sa tswa go re begela le gompieno mo pegong ya gago gore madi a o neng o a filwe mo ngwageng o re o fetsang o, fa o lebelela ya Recurrent Budget, o dirisitse 92 per cent, which is quite good, mme mo Development Budget wa dirisa 88 per cent.

Go supa gore fa o filwe madi o a fiwa o itse se o batlang go a go se dira mme e bile o na le se o se dirang ka one.

Ke re ke a go akgola ka gone moo rraetsho.


Sa bobedi gongwe se ke ka eletsang gore o ka bo o ne wa okelediwa madi a ke gore kana fa o bua ka go tlhabolola motho, human resource development re lebile lephata la gago, re le lefatshe le le fatlhogang, re senka go le gontsi gore motho a tlhabololwe, mme ke wena yo re go lebileng gore o bo o ka tlhabolola batho ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
37 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply Fa re bua ka research and development, ke lephata la gago.

Mafatshe gompieno a tlhabologa ka gore ba dira dipatlisiso (research), mme le wena ke a bona o tlhoafetse o batla gore mohamanyana o wa research o o o tsosolose.
Batswana ba itse ba rutwe ka gore tota dipatlisiso di botlhokwa go le kana ka eng mo lefatsheng le la rona la Botswana ka gore ga o ka ke wa bua ka ditlhabololo o sa bue ka research.

Ke re gone golo mo rraetsho, ke go kope gore a ko o e tshware fela thata go dira ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Ke tsaya gore e tlaa re re tsamaya fale o bo o ntshitse go setse go na le tema e e bonalang.

E bile gape ke go akgole gore o bo o bone go le maleba.
Tota e bile ke dumalana le wena gore mo nakong ya gompieno o bo o na le National Research Fund.

Ke selo se se botlhokwa tota ka gore jaanong kgang ya gore madi ga a yo e tlaabo e le dilo tsa maloba.

Ke tsaya gore letlole le o tlaa le batlela madi gore ba ba tlhoafetseng ba batla go dira dipatlisiso ka tse e leng tsa rona tsa Botswana ba tlaa dira jalo mme go sena sepe se se ba busetsang kwa morago.
Rraetsho, fa ke tsena mo budget e o e kopang ya ngwaga o re tsenang mo go one o, ke leboga thata gape gore e bo jaaka ke ntse ke bua ka research o bo o akantse gore 75 per cent ya madi a o a fiwang a, a o a kopang a, e le a Development Fund, o a ise thatathata into Research and Development Programme.

Ke selo se se botlhokwa ka gore ga re kake ra nna le sepe fa research kampo fa dipatlisiso di sa dirwa.
Re le lefatshe la Botswana, re na le dilo tse dintsi tse e leng gore they have not been researched, mme di ne di ka thusa go tlhabolola lefatshe le la Botswana.

Jaanong ke tsaya fela gore fa o setse o simolotse o na le a fund e e leng gore e tlaabo e lebeletse dipatlisiso e bo e boa gape o simolola gore budget fa e tswa e ntse jaana o bo o itebagantse thata le mananeo a go bona gore research kampo ditlhabololo tse re nang natso o ka di dira ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Ke selo se se botlhokwa fela thata rraetsho.

E tshware fela thata jalo rraetsho, re tlaabo re ntse re go eme nokeng.

Ke batla go gatelela se gore jaaka madi a ntse jaana o a isa kwa Research and Development, ke go kope gore a re bone makalana otlhe le dikole tse e leng gore they are into research, e le gore they are collaborating.

We want to see a thorough collaboration between all institutions involved in research.
Go botlhokwa fela thata jalo ka gore ba tlaa amogana megopolo le dikitso tse ba di bonang.

Ke selo se se botlhokwa, e seng yole a berekela kwa yole a berekela kwa.

Ke selo se e leng gore ke ka go kopa gore a e re jaaka o ntse o tshwere lephata le o bone gore go direga ka tsela e e tshwanang le yone e e ntseng jalo.

Ke bo ke go kope gape under the same theme ya gore jaaka tota o tlhoafetse ka research, we want to see product developed as a result of this research.
Ke gore e seka ya nna research fela tse e leng gore nnyaa e tlaa re go tswa fa di bo di bewa mo shelves tsa ba ba di dirileng go sena se se tswang.

A re bone sengwe, maduo a gore madi a jaaka o a isa ka kwa jaana, researches tse jaaka di dirwa jaana, re tswa ka sengwe se le rona re le Batswana re ka bonang gore re ka ipelafatsa ka eng.

E seng jalo fela, we want to see research e Batswana ba tlaa bonang gore products tse di dirilweng ke research e ke tsa Batswana, di tswa mo Botswana.
Go botlhokwa fela thata jalo, ka gore bontsi ja Batswana ga re itse what was researched, tse di leng teng, le tse di seyong.

Re na le dilo tse dintsi tse di ka dirwang ra di dirisa, mme ra bo ra bona gore lefatshe le la rona re le tlhabolola ka tsela e e tshwanang le efe rraetsho.

Ke re, gone moo fela a ko o tlhwaafale, re bone gore e re ngwaga o o tlang fa o re fa pego, e bo o re fa mo o ka re tlhotlhomisetsang gore go tsamaya ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Lekalana le la BITRI, le botlhokwa fela thata rraetsho, mme jaaka fa o simolotse thulaganyo e ya lone ya Indigenous Knowledge System Policy, a ko ba dire, ditsatlholego tse re nang le tsone tse di ka bolokang lefatshe le la Botswana, tsa le tlhabolola, ba leke gore ba dire thata mo go tsone.

Re tle re bone gore tota re tswelela kwa pele ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Ke dilo tse di leng botlhokwa.


Re na le ditsatlholego tse dintsi tse di ka nontshang lefatshe le, tsa ba tsa dirisiwa kwa mafatsheng a sele, tsa re tsenyetsa letseno la madi fa e le gore they could have been researched mo teng ga bonwa gore tota ka boammaaruri di a re thusa.
Modulasetilo, e nngwe kgang e ke neng ke batla gore ke fete ka yone fa ke setse ke tsamaela kwa bokhutlong ke gore, ke santse ke le bete se molangwana rraetsho ka Lephata le la HRDC, ka gore ke lemoga o kare le beetswe foo go gakolola, tota to try to close the gaps tse di leng teng in terms of skills and capacity, mme ga ke dumele fa le dira ka botlalo.
Beke e e neng e feta e, ke ne ke tlisitse potso ka Institute of Health Sciences (IHS) e e kwa Molepolole, mme nngwe ya dikarabo tse lephata la gago le ne la di fa ke gore, lebaka la gore programmes dingwe di bo di sa dirisiwe kwa IHS e e kwa Molepolole is because lectures tse di ka bong di 38 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply ya go ruta programmes tseo ga di yo.
Mme re bua ka institution e e saleng e agiwa 10 years ago.

O bo o ipotsa gore a HRDC e ne e sa lemoge gore e ka le gakolola gore in between or before go agiwa institution eo, re bo re nnile le batho ba ba qualified enough gore ba ka ya go ruta gone koo.

Ke re, kgang e a ko o e ikatumetse Tona, ke a go tshepha, gore a tota fa go nang le letlhoko teng, bogolo jang mo bodireding, HRDC e gakolole ka botlalo gore ke fa kae.
I think le yone it needs to do a research e e thorough ya gore, tota gatwe the gap e e ntseng jaana e fa kae.

E seng fela e nne diofisi tse e leng gore jaaka o simolola o di fa madi, e tlaabo e le go dirisa madi fela, mme go sena sepe se se tswang mo teng.

Ke re rraetsho, a ko o lebelele golo foo, go re tshwentse fela thata.

Bana ba tletse mo seterateng ba ba ka bong ba ruta kwa go tsone institutions tse, mme gatwe ga ba yo.

O sa itse gore gatwe se se dirang tota e ka ne e le eng.
E nngwe ya bofelo rraetsho e ke batlang go wela ka yone ke ya gore, re na le dikago fela tse dintsintsi, ke ne ke santse ke bua ka IHS Molepolole, e agilwe ka madi a a seng kana ka sepe, mme it is not fully utilised.

Jaanong ka e tsene mo lephateng la gago ke go tshepha, ke tsaya gore e tlaa re mo ngwageng o o tlang o re bolelele sengwe se se botlhokwa kana se tota se ka nametsang.
Re na le Oodi College of Arts, le yone is a massive structure, mme go bua boammaruri botlhe fela, it is not used to the optimal.

Jaanong ke re, le yone a ko o e lebelele rraetsho, o tle o bone gore tota dikago tse re di dirang tse, fa o kare re kgathwa thata ke go bona dikago tse di magasigasi, mme go sa tswe sepe se se ka thusang lefatshe le la Botswana, ke ka goreng?

Jaanong a ko o lebelele tsone dilo tseo.


Gaborone Technical College; in other countries, structures tse di fa, tse di tshwanang tsone tse, they are universities.

They offer Degree, rona re santse re e fa modules, certificates le Diplomas koo.

Ke re, a ko o lebelele dilo tse o bone gore o ka di phutholola ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
E ke wetsang ka yone rraetsho ke gore rra, re santse re tshwenyegile, bana ba institutions bogolo jang tsone tsa bo Botswana University le tse dingwe, ba santse ba bona allowances tsa bone kwa morago, tota le gone.

Mme kana bana ba bangwe ba tswa kwa bo Zoroga, Seronga, bo kaekae, ba tlogetse batsadi go sena sepe, ba beile mo go allowances tseo.

A ko o tsholetse lentswe Honourable Letsholathebe, bana ba duelwe allowances ka nako.
Fa o bona bana ba a ne ba tlelwa ke mewa ya go dira dilo tse di maswe, ke lone letlhoko la madi a allowances.

Ke re rraetsho, nna go nkutusa botlhoko, jaanong a ko o lebelele kgang eo.

Kwa ntle ga foo rra, ke re ke dumalana le madi a o a filweng, ke dumalana le wena gore tota a manyennyane.

Mme Modimo o tlaa thusa, re tlaa bona a magolwane go ntse go tsweletse.

Tanki Modulasetilo.
Tanki Modulasetilo.

HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Mothusa Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, Mopalamente wa Tonota.

Tla ke tseye sebaka se ke go dumedise, ke dumedise batlotlegi le Batswana kwa gae.

Ke latlhele la mmotlana mo kgannyeng e ya botlhokwatlhokwa.

Ke leboge Tona gore o bo o kgonne go bona matsana a o a boneng.

Ke lemoga sentle gore ga a lekana fa re lebile kwa o batlang go isa lefatshe le teng.
Fa re lebile jaaka o batla go diragatsa maitlamo a Puso e, a re neng ra solofetsa Batswana fa re ya ditlhophong.

A go tlisa itsholelo e e tsamaisiwang ka dikitso.

Ke selo se re se bonang mo mekwalong ya gago le fa re e lebile jaana.

Ke simolole fela motlotlegi ke go lebogele gore o bo o eme ka dinao, o lemoga botlhokwa jo lefatshe le tsamaelang teng.

Le rona re se ka ra salela kwa morago fa go buiwa ka seemo sa itsholelo sa malatsi a, itsholelo e e tsamaisiwang ka dikitso, ka boranyane.
Ke re jaaka motlotlegi yo o sa tswang go bua, le yo o buileng pele ga gagwe, le nna fela jalo ke a leboga gore o bo o filwe madi a, mme e bile o bo o simolotse ka botlhokwa ja dipatlisiso.

Re a itse botlhokwa ja dipatlisiso Motlotlegi Tona.

Re ka bo re gatetse kwa pele.

Mme a e re pele ke lemoga, ke bo ke leboge institutions tsa rona tse di leng teng.
Ba ba ntseng ba leka le fa go ise go tlhomiwe madi kana letlole le o tlaa le tlhomang le la dipatlisiso, le fa le ise le tlhomiwe, ba ntse ba leka ka dipatlisiso fela thata, mme re ba leboge, University ya Botswana le BIUST, gore bone ba ntse ba gatetse pele, mme seo se botlhokwa thata.

Ke a go simolola fela ke buisa temana ya gagwe ya paragraph 12, fa o supileng teng ka P45 Million yo o tlaabong o ya go a tobaganya ka projects tse dikgolo, tse di botlhokwa.
Project tse tsa bo agriculture, minerals, tsa botsogo le boitekanelo le indigenous knowledge, tse di amang dikgaolo thata, e bile metse ya kwa dikgaolong e leng dikitso tsa tlholego, le tse dingwe fela jalo.

O gateletse thata gore o neetswe madi a National Research Fund, e botlhokwa thata.

Mme a re itseng gore fa re dira research jaana re batla dikitso tse di tlaa felelang e le dithoto, products jaaka Motlotlegi Regoeng a buile.
Kana fa di felela e le products jaana, re tshwanetse ra itse gape gore re bo re itshireleditse 39 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply mo go boneng gore megopolo e e e felelang e le dithoto e e ya dimmarakeng, ke ya seemo se se kwa godimo, e ya go iteisana borathana le dithoto tse di tswang mo mafatsheng.

Tse go tlhokafalang gore e bo e le dithoto tsa maemo a a kwa godimo.
Go rialo gape go tshwanetse gore bone ba ba tlhotlhomisang ba nne le tumelo ya gore dithoto kana dipe tse di tswang mo dikitsong tsa bone tse di felelang e le dithoto ga ba na go di amogiwa ke bangwe.

Jaanong golo mo ga Intellectual Property (IP) mo Tona, le fa o fetile ka gone fela mme e bile o bua fela gore ke go sireletsa le to manage the value chain le tse dingwe tse di tlaabong di tswa mo National Research Fund, iphe nako o lebelele thata gore IP re e emela ka dinao.
E le mokwatla le thulaganyo e e tiileng, e re tshwanetseng go itse gore malatsi a it is a leverage to a knowledge- based economy mo mafatsheng.

Ga re ka ke ra fitlhelela knowledge-based economy fa re ka latlhelela IP ka gore sepe se re tlaabong re ntse re se bopa re se akanya e le megopolo, re tlile go se amogiwa ke ba bangwe.

Jaanong emela IP ka dinao, re bone dialogane tse di tswang mo universities tse ba ithutetseng the Intellectual Property Law.
Gape yone IP e fa re e atolosa sentle, re a itse gore kana ditlhamo ke megopolo; IP is a creation of the mind.

Re tshwanetse go itse gore ditlhamo tse jaaka re di itse, jaaka products tsa teng di farologana; trademarks, trade secrets, industrial design, copyrights, patterns, layouts design ke dilo fela tse e leng gore fa o di anamisa mo bananeng, di ka tswa ka dithoto le ditiro tse di seng kana ka sepe, tse e leng gore botlhe ba ka ikaba ka tsone.
Jaanong e botlhokwa fela thata, bona gore o e emela ka dinao.

Ka nako e seo Tona, ke ne ke batla gore ke taboge gape ke supe gore fa gongwe bana ga ba kgone sentle mo dikoleng mme e re ba sa kgone jaana, batsadi ba bo ba iteka ka fa ba itekang ka teng.

Batsadi ba ba ntseng jalo Tona, a re baakanyetse gore fa a tlhaela mme a ne itekile a tsentse ngwana dingwaganyana go bo go sala gore ngwana o fetsa mo legatong la bofelo, a re mo thuse.
Ngwana yo bogolo a ye go feleletsa, e tle e nne mongwe yo re itse goreng we have invested a lot mo go ene.

Golo moo le gone go ka re thusa gore bana ba rona ba se ka ba felela ba tlhaetse ka gore ba na le dikgwetlho tse di farologanyeng.

dithuto tsa Diploma tsa barutabana, tlhabolola this area ka gore e ka re thusa fela mo go feteletseng gore letlhoko la ditiro le le kanakana, batho ba ka itirela ka diatla tse ba di rutilweng.

O lekile thata gore dithuto tse di tsamaelane le dinako tsa gompieno.
Kana we cannot transform our economy ka barutabana ba ba rutang dithuto tse di santseng e le tsa bogologolo, di siilwe ke nako.

Jaanong fa o ba tlhabolola jaana, ke a leboga Tona.

O batla gore ba tsamaelane le dinako tsa gompieno tse o tlaabong o itse gore fa o ntse o fetola itsholelo jaana, e ya go tsamaiswa ka dikitsokitso go dira innovation, ga mmogo le go dirisa boranyane.

Ba tlaabo ba ntsha dialogane tse di fetotsweng e bile ba šafaditswe mo dikitsong tsa gompieno.
Ke dilo dingwe tse ke di go lebogelang.

Tona, ke lebogela gape gore o bo o gatetse pele ka maiteko a, o sa latlha maikutlo a koloi ya motlakase.

O tsweletse ka one mme o rutuntsha batho ba e tlaa reng phelelong, e nne bo mechanics ba seemo seo.

Jaaka o dira e bile o ngoka the private sector gore ba tsenye letsogo mo, ke selo se re tshwanetseng gore re ka bo re tsweletse re ntse re se dira.

Ke a go leboga mo seemong se se ntseng jalo Tona.


Fa ke ntse ke tsweletse Tona, o supile gore bo Botswana Accountancy College (BAC) ba gatetse pele mo dithutong tsa segompieno, tse di tsamaelang kwa go bo knowledge-based economy.

Nna o ba rotloetse fela jalo.

Tona o lekile, o na le an extension or research unit kwa Maun ya university.

A re bone go diragala le mo universities tse dingwe tsa bo BIUST, re batla go nna le some hubs gone koo.

La bofelo Tona, emela mohama o wa entrepreneurship ka dinao.
Entrepreneurship is very important ka gore re tlaa ntsha dikitso le dithoto, re bo re tlhoka bone ba e leng gore ke boradikgwebo; ba ba tshwanetseng go bona dimmaraka gore di eme jang.

Dithoto tsa rona di bo di felela gongwe jaanong di sa kgone go iteisana borathana sentle le dimmaraka tse dingwe.

So innovation and entrepreneurship ke dilo tse di tsamaelanang, ke diyathotheng di bapile.

Ga o ka ke wa tla ka innovation, e bo e le gore you are very weak on the side of entrepreneurship.
Go ruta batho ka dikgwebo go botlhokwa fela thata.

Ke a leboga Tona ka gore nako ke eo le yone e setse e ntshiile.

Ke a leboga.

O buile ka Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVET).

Go botlhokwa gore le yone re e ise kwa maemong a go e tlhabolola.

Jaaka fela o tlhabolola MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Your Honour, thank you sir.

Honourable Caterpillar Hikuama, Rraagwe Operi.


40 Hansard No 205Wednesday 23rd March, 2022ORGANISATION 2700 - MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYCommittee of Supply MOTION ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, nnyaa, mme ba tlaa go thusa your officials ka nako foo ka gore mole ga se go ikwadisa.

O tlaa gakologelwa gore o saletswe ke five minutes, o setse a buile five minutes.
Ka go rialo Mr Speaker, ke a go leboga, tla ke kope batlotlegi gore gongwe re eme gone fa.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:02 p.m. until Thursday 24th March, 2022 at 11:00 a.m. MR HIKUAMA (NGAMI): Ke a leboga Modulasetilo, ke a leboga PPP.

Tona, ke palelwa ke go go leboga ka gore o ntlhomola pelo, o motho yo o tlhoafetseng fa gare ga batho ba ba sa tlhoafalang mo Pusong e e sa tseyeng sepe ka tlhoafalo.
Ga ke dumele gore Puso e e filweng boikarabelo, ka nako e e bo e santse e le mo ipapatsong, e solofetsa.

Batho fa ba filwe boikarabelo ga ba solofetse, ba a dira, ba bo ba bua go le gonnye.

Ditiro tsa bone e le tse di supang gore ba tsweletse ka eng.

Ke sone se ke reng tota o ntlhomola pelo.

O mongwe wa Matona a a itekang, a leka ka bojotlhe, a e leng gore le fa o mo kopa sengwe, o a tsiboga e bile o supa o tlhoafetse.
Tshwara fela jalo, o se ka wa itlhoboga le fa o le fa gare ga Puso e go lebegang e sa tseye dilo ka tlhoafalo.

Mr Chairperson, baitsaanape ba ba dirang le ditlhabololo ba a supa gore gore lefatshe le tlhabologe, ke gore le ikaege ka dilo tse nne mo ba go bitsang Human Resources, Fiscal Capital, National Resources and Technology mme priority e tona ke human resources.

Fa o na le batho ba ba rutetsweng ditiro, ba na la dikitso tse di tseneletseng, lefatshe le a tlhabologa.
Tse dingwe tsa bo natural resources re setse re na le tsone re le lefatshe, mo re go tlhokang ke human resources.

Bothata jwa lefatshe la Botswana le Puso ya ga Domkrag, ga e a tsaya thuto e le selo se se botlhokwa kana ya e dira priority of priorities; priority number one.
If you can make education priority number one, re ka se ke re palelwe ke go tlhabolola lefatshe la rona le go dira dilo tsotlhe tse di tlhokafalang re le lefatshe, re lwantshe letlhoko la ditiro, lehuma le tsotlhe le go betla baitsaanape ba ba ka re thusang go tlhabolola lefatshe la rona.

Modulasetilo, mme ke kgwe Tona dikgaba ke simolole ka kgang ya education financing, more especially ya tertiary education.
Ke santse ke dumela gore thuto ke nngwe ya ditshwanelo tsa setho, e bile lefatshe le tshwanetse go dira gotlhe mo le ka go kgonang to sponsor bana ba bone.

Puso ga e a tshwanela go ikotlhaela to finance bana kana citizens tsa bone… MR SPEAKER (MR MOATLHODI): Order!

Order!

Honourable Member for Ngami, bo Xauxau.

Ke ne ke batla gore o ikwadise fela Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa me, kamoso ke tlaa tsoga ke go fa sebaka Honourable Hikuama gore o tswelele ka puo ya gago e ntle e ba go utlwang kwa Tubu.
As it is now 6 o’clock, I shall now call upon His Honour the Vice President (VP), the Honourable Leader of this House to move a Motion of adjournment.
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