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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 07 MARCH 2022 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 205 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon.

Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP.

DEPUTY SPEAKER Hon.

P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP.

(Tonota) Clerk of the National Assembly Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel Assistant Clerk (E) His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP.

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP.


(Boteti West) CABINET - President - Vice President - Ms B. N. Dithapo - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe - Advocate L. O. Tlhowe - Mr R. Josiah Hon.

K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP.

(Molepolole South) - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

K. T. Mmusi, MP.

(Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon.

Dr L. Kwape, MP.

(Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon.

K. K. Autlwetse, MP.


(Specially Elected) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon.

K. S. Gare, MP.

(Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

P. K. Kereng, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism Hon.

Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP.

(Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon.

T.M.

Segokgo, MP.

(Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon.

K. Mzwinila, MP.
K. Mzwinila, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon.

T. M. Rakgare, MP.

(Mogoditshane) - Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development Hon.

A. M. Mokgethi, MP.

(Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon.

P. O. Serame, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon.

F. M. M. Molao, MP.

(Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Hon.

Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP.


(Tati East) Hon.

L. M. Moagi, MP.

(Ramotswa) - Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology - Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security Hon.

M. Kgafela, MP.

(Mochudi West) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

M. R. Shamukuni, MP.

(Chobe) - Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development Hon.

E. M. Molale, MP.

(Goodhope-Mabule) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Hon.
D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP.

(Gaborone South) - Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

S. N. Modukanele, MP.

(Lerala -Maunatlala) Hon.

T. Monnakgotla, MP.

(Kgalagadi North) Hon.

M. M. Pule, MP.

(Mochudi East) Hon.

M. S. Molebatsi, MP.


(Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

S. Lelatisitswe, MP.

(Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon.

N. W. T. Makwinja, MP.

(Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon.

B. Manake, MP.
B. Manake, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

H. B. Billy, MP.

(Francistown East) Hon.

A. Lesaso, MP.

(Shoshong) - Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency Hon.

L. Kablay, MP.

(Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon.

Dr U. Dow, MP.

Hon.


P. Majaga, MP.

Hon.

M. Balopi, MP.

Hon.

J. S. Brooks, MP.

Hon.

C. Greeff, MP.

Hon.

T. Letsholo, MP.

Hon.

T. F. Leuwe, MP.

Hon.

T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP.

Hon.

Dr T. Matsheka, MP.

Hon.

S. N. Moabi, MP.

Hon.

P. K. Motaosane, MP.

Hon.

O. Regoeng, MP.

Hon.

J. L. Thiite, MP.


Specially Elected Nata-Gweta Gaborone North Kgalagadi South Gaborone Bonnington South Kanye North Takatokwane Gaborone Central Lobatse Tati West Thamaga-Kumakwane Molepolole North Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon.

D. Saleshando, MP.

(Leader of the Opposition) Hon.

M. G. J. Motsamai, MP.


(Opposition Whip) Maun West Ghanzi South Selebi Phikwe West Mahalapye East Sefhare-Ramokgonami Ngami Okavango Maun East Bobonong Selebi Phikwe East Palapye Nkange Mahalapye West Francistown West Hon.

D. L. Keorapetse, MP.

Hon.

Y. Boko, MP.

Hon.

Dr K. Gobotswang, MP.

Hon.

C. K. Hikuama, MP.

Hon.

K. K. Kapinga, MP Hon.

G. Kekgonegile, MP.

Hon.

T. B. Lucas, MP.

Hon.

K. Nkawana, MP.

Hon.

O. Ramogapi, MP.

Hon.

Dr N. Tshabang, MP.

Hon.

D. Tshere, MP.

Hon.


M. I. Moswaane, MP.

Hon.

T. S. Khama, MP.

Hon.

L. Lesedi, MP.

Hon.

B. Mathoothe, MP.

Hon.

M. Reatile, MP.

(Botswana Patriotic Front) Serowe West Serowe South Serowe North Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon.

W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.
Francistown South (Alliance for Progressives) TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 7TH MARCH, 2022 CONTENTS PAGE (S) SPEAKER’S ANNOUNCEMENT...........................................................................................................................1 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...................................................................................................................1-9 APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.
2 OF 2022) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY Organisation 0700 - Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry (Resumed Debate)...........................................................................................................................................10-26 Organisation 0800 – Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development....................................................27-39 Monday 7th March, 2022 THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) P R A Y E R S * * * * SPEAKER’S ANNOUNCEMENT MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Good afternoon to you.
Honourable Members, you are requested to switch on your videos so that we can determine whether we have a quorum.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke teng Mr Speaker, ke maranyane o se ka wa re ga ke yo.

Ke Morwaeng, motlhanka wa gago yo o boikanyego.

MR SPEAKER: Ke a leboga Mokwena.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ka gore ke wena yo o in charge of maranyane, ke eng o sa a baakanye kante?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member for Francistown West, I can hear your voice.

Order!

Order!
Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, good afternoon …(Inaudible)… our business with questions.
Before that, it has been brought to my attention Honourable Members that following your debate on the Motion by Honourable Keorapetse regarding corruption and other matters where he wanted you to request the President to set up a commission, some people and indeed around dilo tse tsa lona tsa maranyane, took it that where the Speaker did not rule whether or not Honourable Keorapetse should withdraw any of the words he uttered, it meant that the Speakers agreed that there was indeed evidence of corruption.
You will recall that we took some moments between me and Honourable Keorapetse, trying to establish the facts which he was alleging.

And the facts insofar as their relevance, were that the President had applied like other people for Banyana Farms, and had been allocated a piece of land there by the same people or body that allocated to other people who had applied also.
Honourable Keorapetse said that if there were to be a situation where Parliament floated anything where people had to bid and the Speaker were to apply, to him that will be corruption.

He said it was his opinion.

I thought that if it is his opinion, and the facts are quite clear that they do not show corruption as understood in our law, we do not want to waste time debating people’s opinions, especially if you pay attention to Section 12 of our Constitution which deals with opinions.
My inclination not to make a ruling was solely because, I understood Honourable Keorapetse to be saying he was not dealing with the facts, he was dealing with his opinion that people who are superintending others should not take part in anything that is being done by those under them, in the way of bidding.
There was no way it could be implied that the Speaker agreed with Honourable Keorapetse that there was corruption, because the facts as agreed by Honourable Keorapetse himself indicated the procedure that was taken.

I make this pronouncement so that in future, go se ka gatwe mme ntla maloba o ne o re go siame fa motho a re ke kgopolo ya gagwe.
It is his opinion based on the facts which support corruption or whatever crime, Section 12 of the Constitution other than that probably the Standing Orders will then be interpreted otherwise, will allow him to have his own opinion.

In my view I saw no corruption, he could go away with his own opinion which has nothing to do with the facts which were before you.

I thought I should make that clear Honourable Members.

Fa o isa corruption kwa Setswaneng, e na le mathata gore e tlhalosiwa jang.
I dare not to attempt that one, because Setswana sa me se a fokola.

I just wanted it to be known that there was no implication on the part of the Speakership that any evidence of corruption whatsoever on the part of the President having applied like every other Motswana who had applied.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Re ka akgela foo Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga gona dikakgelo, gakere Speaker o ne a re begela fela.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, re tlaa ya General Assembly where we can exchange views on it.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: There is no need.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Let us go for General Assembly Mr Speaker, that is better.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke wena mongongoregi.


QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER JURISDICTION FOR DIKGOSI MR K. K. KAPINGA (OKAVANGO): asked the Minister of Defence, Justice and Security to state: (i) the current level of jurisdiction for Dikgosi and Magistrates in civil matters for claims sounding in money; and 1 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER (ii) if he will consider raising such level of jurisdiction for purposes of improving access to justice and speedy resolution of civil matters.
MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr Speaker, ke leboge Honourable Kapinga for his question.

(i) Mr Speaker, the current jurisdiction for Dikgosi in civil matters is set out in the Customary Courts Act, Establishment and Jurisdiction of Customary Courts Order (Cap 04:05).

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From to P40 000.00 P100 000.00 P30 000.00 P80 000.00 R e g i o n a l and Chief Magistrate P r i n c i p a l Magistrate S e n i o r Magistrate P20 000.00 P70 000.00 Kgosi/Mothusa Kgosi Kgosi Moemela P10 000.00 P8 000.00 yo 4.

M a g i s t r a t e P15 000.00 P60 000.00 Grade I Mogolwane Moemela Kgosi Kgosana P7 000.00 P5 000.00 5.

M a g i s t r a t e P10 000.00 P50 000.00 Grade II 6.
M a g i s t r a t e P10 000.00 P40 000.00 Mr Speaker, my ministry does not hold a mandate on the administration of Customary Law, and as such I am constrained in responding to issues of Customary Law.

The Honourable Member is advised to refer issues of Customary Law and the Customary Courts Act to the relevant ministry, being the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development.
Mr Speaker, with respect to Magistrates, the current jurisdiction in civil matters is found in Section 17 of the Magistrates Courts Act (Cap 04:04), which provides for the jurisdiction of Magistrates in all civil claims where the total money claimed does not exceed: Regional Magistrate and Chief P40 000.00 Principal Magistrate Senior Magistrate Magistrate Grade I P30 000.00 P20 000.00 P15 000.00 Magistrate Grade II and III P10 000.00 (ii) Mr Speaker, in order to facilitate the speedy disposal of cases by preventing the accumulation of cases on account of lack of jurisdiction of certain grades of Magistrates, I caused an amendment to the Magistrate Courts Act.
The Magistrate Courts (Amendment) Bill was published on the 3rd December 2021, and is awaiting tabling before Parliament for debate.

It seeks to increase the jurisdiction of Magistrates in all civil matters as follows: Grade III I thank you Mr Speaker.

MR KAPINGA: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga Honourable Minister.

O e latlha fa o re ke botsa ka dipotso tsa customary law, ke botse kwa ke tshwanetseng go botsa teng.
This question is aimed at dispensation of justice, which you are responsible for as the Minister of Justice.

Ke lebogela karabo ya gago, the only question would be, o ikaelela go tla ka this Amendment Bill leng ka gore go botlhokwa gore e tle ka bofefo mo Palamenteng?

Re lebile mathata a re nang le one at the courts mabapi le go kgweleana ga dikgetsi.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR MMUSI: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mma ke go leboge Mopalamente yo o tlotlegang Honourable Kapinga.
Tota e ya Ministry of Local Government, ke a itse gore golo mo ke melao; customary law.

Gompieno melao e ya Dikgosi e santse e le kwa go bone.

E tlaare letsatsi lengwe e fudusediwe ka fa tlase ga Ministry of Justice.

Ke ikaelela gore Bill e rraetsho, e tle mo Palamenteng during this sitting e re leng mo go yone.

Ke nngwe ya Bills tse re setseng re di isitse gore di tle di tsene mo Palamenteng gompieno jaana.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.
HUMAN RABIES VACCINE MR D. L. KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE WEST): asked the Minister of Health and Wellness to confirm worryingly disturbing reports that there is no human rabies vaccine and no human rabies antisera 2 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER anywhere in the country or even contingency limited supply in both public and private hospitals, the Minister should state: (i) the nature and extent of the shortage; (ii) when this shortage started and if it’s still the case; (iii) causes and effects of the shortage; and (iv) what he has done about the situation and when it will be remedied including timelines.
ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so much Mr Speaker and good afternoon.

Mr Speaker, re le lephata, re a lemoga gore go ne go na le tlhaelo ya rabies vaccine, mokento o o sireletsang batho mo molafong in most parts of the country go simolola ka September 2021 until January 2021, in most District Health Management Teams (DHMTs), e seng tsotlhe.

Out of 18 DHMTs, 11 of them did not have anything.


Ka di 27 tsa ga January 2021, a total of 3, 300 vials di ne tsa amogelwa mme tsa phatlaladiwa le DHMTs.

Human antisera is currently not listed under Botswana Essential Medicine List.

This is a blood serum containing antibodies against specific antigens.

Ke tsaya gore mmotsi wa potso o e tlhaloganya sentle jalo.
Ga go na tlhaelo mo nakong ya gompieno ka gore stock se re nang le sone is expected to last for two months and therefore, shortage ga e sa tlhole e le teng.

Shortage e, e ne e bakilwe ke a supplier yo a neng a tshwanetse to supply this rabies antisera.

O ne a palelwa ke to supply mme ya re kwa morago konteraka ya gagwe ya emisiwa.

Ke yone e e neng ya baka gore theko e se ka ya tswelela.

Fa e sena go emisiwa, ga re e fiwe ba bangwe.


Mr Speaker, ka di 27 tsa ga January jaaka ke supile gore re amogetse tse 3, 300, di ne tsa phatlaladiwa le districts and furthermore, an additional micro procurement e ne ya dirwa ya 4, 100 vials which is expected to be delivered on the 4th of April to avoid shortages.

In the future, procurement e nngwe ya 35, 200 vials is in the process and theko ya teng e setse e simologile.

Ke a leboga.

MR KEORAPETSE: Supplementary.


Mr Speaker, ga ke a utlwa a araba potso ya the effects tsa shortage.

O ka re tlhalosetsa bodiphatsa jwa gore melemo e bo e seyo kana e tlhaela mo dikokelong le dikokelwana.

Seemo se se ntseng jaana, maikaelelo a bone ke gore ba tlaa se hema jang gore mo isagong se se ka sa boelela?

Ke a leboga.

MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

Effects tsa go tlhoka mokento o ke gore motho fa a ka lomiwa ke ntša e e nang le molafo, molafo o ka fetela mo go ene.
Jaaka ke bua, this was not completely out of stock, e ne e seyo in other districts.

Ba ba nang le yone, ba ne ba ka e isa koo ka gore go longwa ke dintša is not a common thing e e leng gore letsatsi le letsatsi di loma batho.

Fa go na le tiragalo e e ntseng jalo, ba ka leletsa DHMTs.

Ke rile out of 18, only 11 did not have mme tse di neng di na le yone, ba ne ba ka neela ba ba e tlhokang ka bofefo jo bo rileng.

Ke sone se ke buang gore theko e tsweletse.


Procurement e tona e dirilwe, e ke tsayang gore ke e buile mo karabong gore re dirile micro procurement, re bo re dira le e e tona ya 25, 000 e e leng gore is currently floating, to avoid this in the future.

Ke a leboga.

MR MOSWAANE: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Minister, golo fa re na le mathata, mme beke ke beke o kare re araba ka dikgang tsa melemo.

You are assuring Batswana gore sengwe le sengwe se apere tshiamo.
Ke fa sekai; batho ba ba lwalang bolwetse jwa khupelo ga ba na melemo mo toropokgolo ya Francistown le mabapi, ba a sianasiana.

Ke ne ke utlwa Honourable Keorapetse a go setse morago ka effects tsa gore dilo tse di bo di seyo, le ka tswa le lemoga jang?

A ko o tlhalose sentle gore a o a itse gore dintša le dikatse ga di a kentiwa mo nakong ya gompieno?

Batswana ba mo kotsing fela e e seng kana ka sepe.

Dilo tse di a tsamaelana rraetsho fa o ntse o lebeletse ka fa potso e tsamayang ka teng.
Thank you so much.

MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

Gore dintša le dikatse ga di a kentiwa, I cannot confirm.

I can confirm gore tsa me nna di kentilwe.

Ga ke itse gore tsa ga Moswaane di tlaabo di sa kentiwa jang?

MR MOSWAANE: Ee, tsa Mapalamente di kentilwe, tsa batho ga di a kentiwa.

MR LELATISITSWE: Ke tsa ga mang tse di sa kentiwang?

Ga ke itse fa go na le dintša tse di sa kentiwang, eo ke e utlwa ka wena rraetsho.
Re le ba Botsogo… MR MOSWAANE: Nnyaa mme ga ke clown rraetsho, o se ka wa jesa party ditlhopho.

MR LELATISITSWE: Ee, I cannot confirm gore dintša ga di a kentiwa.

Ke tsaya gore o ka tsenya potso e e tlhamaletseng ya ya kwa Ministry of Agriculture go tlhola gore a dintša di kentilwe.
Ke supe gore mo nakong e, ga re ise re nne le dikgetsi dipe tse di neng tsa begwa ka 3 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER kwano, e le gore go na le mathata a tlhaelo e e feletseng, batho bangwe ba tsenwe ke molafo.

Moswaane, fa gongwe fa re le Honourable Members, re se ka ra nna re batla to blow things out of proportion ka gore… MR MOSWAANE: Se mpuise jalo Minister, ke na le ka fa ke ka go arabang ka teng.

A ko o dirise kagiso, o arabe as a professional Minister.
MR LELATISITSWE: Tlhaelo ya melemo mo lefatsheng, re amogetse gantsi mo Palamenteng e gore re e amogetse, e bile re buile gore e kwa tlase ke 40 per cent.

Tse e leng gore re a di dira mo nakong e, re di dirile, e bile go araba sepolotiki kana go reng, ga se golo mo re go tshabang.

We will respond le rona gakere re mapolotiki.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


GOLDMINE JUNIOUR SECONDARY SCHOOL PROJECT MR W. B. MMOLOTSI (FRANCISTOWN SOUTH): asked the Minister of Basic Education to state progress on the kitchen project and construction of classroom blocks at Goldmine Junior Secondary School in Francistown.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MS MAKWINJA): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Thank you motlotlegi.

Mr Speaker, the construction of the kitchen at Goldmine Junior Secondary School is complete.
However, the mechanical works comprising the fittings and fixtures, including 10 such as the cooker extraction hood, cooking pots and air conditioners are not installed and the sub-contractor for these works has been terminated.

Currently the ministry is preparing tender documents for the completion of the outstanding mechanical works, which are expected to commence on site by June 2022.

The construction of additional classrooms, Mr Speaker, includes the provision of two prefabricated classrooms.
The tender for this project is at the financial evaluation stage.

The delay in this tender was caused by queries raised by bidders which were finally dismissed by the Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (PPADB) on the 1st March 2022.

Mr Speaker, a tender for the further expansion of Goldmine Junior Secondary School is undergoing adjudication and award.
This contract will cover other aspects of the school expansion including administration extension, multipurpose block, six new classrooms, an art laboratory, student ablution, guidance and counselling facilities, 12 staff housing units and some external works are expected to commence within this year, 2022/2023 financial year.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


Tona, a o itse gore kitchen e ya kwa Goldmine Junior Secondary School, ke a bona e tlaa digela ngwaga e fedile mme e padisiwa gore e neelwe sekole ke tsone dilonyana tse dinnyennyane tse o ntseng o bua ka ga tsone?

A mme Tona o bona go siame gore kitchen e e tle e felele jaanong e onala e santse e emetse go tsenngwa cooker le dilonyana tse dinnyennyane?
A ga go na sepe se le ka se dirang to expedite process e ya go tsenya dilo tse dinnyennyane gore kitchen e kgone go bereka?

Sa bobedi, mo kgannyeng ya classrooms, a o a itse Tona gore project e ke ya Economic Stimulus Programme (ESP) le gore ESP ke kgang ya bogologolo jo bo kae?

A mme le bona le le lephata le dira mo go lekaneng go bona gore ditiro tsa lona tse le di direlang dikole di dirwa ka nako e e tlhokafalang?
Ya bofelo, Tona, expansion e o buang ka ga yone ya classrooms le multipurpose halls, o buile fela gore e ka nna ya simolola ngwaga ono.

Ke botse gore e ya go fela leng?

Are you 100 per cent sure gore this project is going to commence mo ngwageng o?

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MS MAKWINJA: Thank you motlotlegi.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


Ke re mathata a a lebaganeng Goldmine Junior Secondary School le mathata a a expansions tsa dikole le eng fela se se nyafalang mo ministry wa rona, re tlhalositse e bile re ntse re tlhalosa gore boradikonteraka ke mathata mo ditirong tsa rona tsa Basic Education.

A o bua ka kitchens, stoves, go aga le prefabricated, re na le mathata a borakonteraka.

Jaanong dilo tse Honourable Mmolotsi, di re dira gore e nne e kete ga re kgarametse tiro, mme re leka ka bojotlhe.
Re kganelwa ke tsone dilo tsa go nna jaana tsa gore go tlaa fediwa kago, fa go tshwanetse gore dilo di tsene mo teng go nna le dikgogakgogano le bo PPADB le dikonteraka.

Rona re leka ka bojotlhe rra.

Mathata a motlotlegi a a dirwa ke borakonteraka.

Tota re na le mathata.

O ne o bua ka timelines tsa ESP.

Ke gopola gore ke problem fela, e seng kwa Goldmine fela; ya ditsela, ya eng tse e leng gore... Dilo tsa ESP di na le mathata one ao.
Re leka ka bojotlhe jaaka re e tsentse fa jaana gore re bone gore tota tiro e e tlaa simologa.

O a itse gore tenders tsa rona, advertising le adjudicating, gongwe re tlaa re e tlaa simolola ngwaga o. Gongwe e tlaa re 4 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER jaanong sengwe le sengwe se siame a bo e le gore motho o tsholetsa letsogo gore nnyaa golo fale ga go a diriwa sentle.

Plan ya rona ke gore e simolole.


Re tlile go leka ka bojotlhe go dira project memorandum gore dilo tse di simolole.

Jaanong o a itse madiadia a e leng gore re ka re gone jaanong jaana tota ga a mo diatleng tsa rona mme re leka ka bojotlhe motlotlegi.

Ga ke itse gore a ke go arabile.

MR MOSWAANE: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


Honourable Minister, on the same project ya kwa Montsamaisa, re na le project e e tshwanang le yone eo kwa Selolwe CJSS mo Francistown, e e simologileng ka nako e le nngwefela, mme go lebega gore classrooms ka kwa o kare di ne di tsamaela go fela mme staff accommodation le sone se nnile stuck fela fa se sena go fediwa, it is now two years metlakase ga e fele.
A o ka tswa o na le temogo ka yone ka gore ke e tsalanya ka gore ke project e le nngwefela e bile o kare gongwe e ne e dirwa ke rakonteraka a le mongwefela?

Thank you so much.

MS MAKWINJA: Ke a leboga motlotlegi.

Ke one mathata a ke ntseng ke bua ka one gore re na le mathata le boradikonteraka.

Jaaanong re a leka go kgarametsa Motlotlegi Rre Moswaane gore dilo tse di fele.

Fa o re o tsena kafa ke PPADB kana rakonteraka.

Ke mathata fela.
Ke mathata fela.

Jaanong ga re itlhoboge, re a leka re tlaa di sala morago go bona gore tota ngwaga e dilo tse di a dirwa di a fela.

Ke a leboga.

MR REGOENG: Supplementary.

Tanki Mr Speaker.

Honourable Minister, re a go utlwa.

Gongwe o tlhomamisetse Ntlo e gore a batho ba ba fiwang ditiro tse ba a tle ba bo ba tla ka boammaaruri ba na le boitseanape jwa gore ba ka dira tiro e ba filweng kana ba fiwa fela go sena boitseanape e re kwa morago a bo go itshupa jaana?

Ke yone ya ntlha.
Ke yone ya ntlha.

Ya bobedi, tiro fa e diega jaaka e diegile go buiwa dingwaga tse pedi morago fa go sena go fela, se tota se se a tleng se bo se diile ke go reng?

Gongwe o tlhalose gore fa rakonteraka a palelwa ke go dira, ke eng se se diang gore go bo tsaya lobaka le le kanakana le tiro e ntse e sa fele jaaka e tshwanetse gore e fele?

MS MAKWINJA: Thank you motlotlegi.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ga ke ka ke ka arabela bokgoni jwa dikonteraka.


Se ke setseng ke se bonye ke gore ga ba na bokgoni mo dilong tse ke di iponetseng ka matlho.

Le batlotlegi bangwe ba lona ke gopola gore ke kile ka tsamaya le bone ke ba etetse, gore batho bao ga ba na bokgoni.

Fa e le gore ba na le bokgoni, go raya gore maybe ba ikatolositse thata.

Motho o tlaabo a tsere konteraka kwa go Honourable Mmolotsi o ya go dira gape kwa Honourable Moswaane.
Ke gore ga go na gore project e dirwe e fele e na le supervision e e rileng.

Ke sone se re nang le mathata a teng Honourable Regoeng.

Jaanong tota ke mathata a e leng gore re lwa le one, re a leka ka bojotlhe tota gore re leke gore ba kgaolelwe kontoreka.

Gape kana fa o re o ya to terminate o tlaa fitlhela e le gore go na le dikgoreletsi fale le fale, mo e leng gore kgantele fa o terminate o ya go simolola gape o dira tenders tse dišha.

It is another two years, o fedile.


Ke dilo tse e leng gore jaaka re fetisitse bo PPADB jaana, re solofela gore di tlile go re thusa thata gore re leke go tswala diphatlha tse di re paledisang ditiro tse.

Ke a leboga motlotlegi.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Last supplementary Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: No sir.

Honourable Johane Thiite, Member for Ghanzi North.
GHANZI LEA OFFICE MR J. L. THIITE (GHANZI NORTH): asked the Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry if he is aware that the Ghanzi Local Enterprise Authority (LEA) Office is understaffed and that this hampers Small, Micro and Medium Enterprises (SMMEs) and other stakeholders from getting timely service; if so; to state: (i) the staff complement of the LEA Office in Ghanzi and the number of business advisors; (ii) if he is satisfied with the turnaround time of service delivery given by the LEA Office in Ghanzi; (iii) if he is not considering as a matter of urgency to increase the staff complement taking into account the high number of clientele and demand for business plan facilitation for Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) funding and business mentoring; and (iv) progress made by LEA to introduce the use of technology to reach a wider youth populace conversant with to access LEA technology services such as business plan facilitation, training and mentoring.
MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR KGAFELA): Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ga ke dumalane sentle gore ofisi ya CEDA e e kwa Ghanzi e tlhaeditswe bodiredi, mme ke tlaa tlhalosa gore ke eng ke... 5 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER HONOURABLE MEMBER: LEA not CEDA.

MR KGAFELA: I beg your pardon LEA kwa Ghanzi, ke a leboga Rre Hikuama.
Badiri ba ba kwa Ghanzi ba LEA ba barataro, go na le; branch manager, business executive, business analyst, go bo go nna le administration coordinator.

Ba bo ba nna le support staff e bong receptionist le mokgweetsi.
(i) Ke tlhalose gore jaaka diofisi tsa LEA tse di anameng le lefatshe la Botswana, e e kwa Ghanzi e thusa SMMEs tse di mo Ghanzi township ka sebele, gammogo le metse e e mabapi, mme e ba neela dithuso tsa go ba tshegetsa gore ba kgone go ema ka dinao ka dikgwebo tsa bone, le gore ba di godise.
(ii) A ke a kgotsofala ka turnaround time ya ditirelo tse e leng gore ba a di neela; ga ke gane Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente fale le fale go e tle go tlhoswe go fitlhele e le gore go nnile le tiego ka go neela bodiredi.

Mme fela overall ga ke ka ke ka re ke selo se se tlang kgapetsakgapetsa, se ngomola pelo.

Overall ke a kgotsofala ka turnaround time ya bone.
Fa re lebelela Micro Enterprises segolo jang, re neela ditirelo as ... HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Honourable Makwinja.

MR THIITE: Mr Speaker, I cannot hear the Minister.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mma Makwinja, mute yourself.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Makwinja, mute yourself.

Continue Kgabo.

MR KGAFELA: Micro Enterprises ba neelwa ditirelo tsa LEA over the counter, ba gakololwa gore ba ka tsweledisa businesses tsa bone ka tsela e ntseng jang.
Mme fa re lebelela the Small and Medium Enterprises, go na le interventions tse LEA e ba thusang ka tsone, gammogo le go tlhomamisa gore ba a ba etela go ba kgothatsa, le go ba ruta on a weekly basis, e ba latela kwa ba gwebelang teng.

Go tswa fela gore ditlhokego tsa SMME ke eng, kana ditlhokego tsa mogwebi potlana ke eng.

Fela the average time e e tsewang go thusa mogwebi kwa LEA ke 10 to 30 minutes on average.
(iii) A re tlaa hira batho; ke re e-e, kana go nnile le kemiso ya khiro mo makalaneng otlhe a Puso le mo Pusong ka sebele.

Jaanong ka se sebaka ga ke mo seemong sa gore ke tlhalosetse Ntlo e gore a ga ke na keletso kana ke mo seemong sa gore ke ka oketsa badiri ba LEA kwa Ghanzi.
Ke rurifatse Mopalamente gore, gangwe le gape baitseanape go tswa mo ofising ya Gaborone, ba e leng gore ke business specialists ba eta ba rongwa ba ya kwa Ghanzi kgapetsakgapetsa ba ya go thusa SMMEs gone kwa Ghanzi, ba ya go ba neela ditirelo.

(iv) A re tlaa simolodisa technology; ke re ka se sebaka re thubile lebelo la go tlhabololo kana go bopa a digital transformation strategy, e re nang le tsholofelo ya gore e tlaa tsenngwa mo tirisong ngwaga o wa madi wa 2022/2023.
Maikaelelo magolo a yone tota e le gore e fitlhelele batho ba le bantsi go ba latela ka maranyane.

Ke rurifaletse motlotlegi gore tiro e e tsweletse pele, mme le ka se sebaka se go na le ditirelo dingwe tsa LEA tse di neelwang ka maranyane, le Batswana ba a di fitlhelela ditiro tse, lefatshe ka bophara, le ene Ghanzi a balelwa mo teng.
Ithutuntsho ya bagwebi potlana mo diatleng tsa LEA e ntse e diriwa virtually, gammogo le gone go ba kwadisa, gammogo le go amogela dituelo tse di tlhokwang mo go bone gore ba duelele ithutuntsho eo.

Ke tlhalose gore mo go se sebaka, dipampiri tsa me di supa gore bagwebi potlana ba P1500 ba setse ba kile ba rutuntshiwa kana ba itewa lebogo ke LEA go dirisiwa maranyane a lefatshe ka bophara, go balelwa le Ghanzi ka sebele.
Jaanong fela ke re ke amogela gore go na le bothata jwa connectivity Botswana ka bophara, segolo jang kwa mafelong a a kgakala le ditlamelo tse tsa connectivity.

Bangwe ba bagwebi ba rona tota ga ba na le ditlamelo tse ba di dirisang mo lebogong tsa go ba kgontsha gore ba kgone go fitlhelela maranyane.
Ke re re na le a piloted blended training concept, e re dumelang gore e tlaare fa re e tsenya mo tirisong e bo e thusa gore batho ba ba ba kgapetsweng kwa thoko ka mabaka a tlhaelo ya go fitlhelela maranyane, e bo e le gore le bone ba kgona go bona ithutuntsho kana go itewa lebogo ke LEA.
Ke rurifatse gore le teraka e teng e e tsamayang dikgaolo tse, ke lebala gore e ile leng la bofelo kwa Ghanzi, mme yone e teng e a tsamaya, e le a mobile platform e e dirisiwang, ka re tlhaloganya gore dingwe tsa dikgaolo tse dikgakala le maranyane.
Ke re mo go se sebaka, LEA e eme ka dinao, e bopa what is called a contact centre, e e leng gore it is an all-encompassing platform, e re dumelang gore fa e tsenngwa mo tirisong e tlaa tokafatsa 6 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER tomagano magare ga LEA le ditirelo tsa yone, gammogo le bagwedi potlana kana ba ba eletsang go simolola dikgwebo potlana.
Re solofela gore ka tse motlotlegi, Batswana ba tlaa bona ditirelo tsa LEA, mme platform e, maikaelelo fa tsotlhe di ka tsamaya ka thelelo ke gore e bo e tsenngwa mo tirisong in a first quarter ngwaga o wa 2022/2023 ya madi.

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente ke eme.

MR THIITE: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Honourable Minister, ke lebogela karabo ya gago.

Legale ke eletsa go tlhalosa gore bophara jwa karabo ya gago ga o dumalane le nna.
Gongwe mo potsong fa o ne o etse tlhoko ke ne ke ikamantse thata le go bua ka business advisors gore ba a tlhaela mo kgaolong.

Ke ne ke eletsa go go sedimosetsa gore kana ke Mopalamente on the ground mo kgaolong, ke kopana le ba lephata la gago, ke utlwa dikgwetlho tsa bone, e bile gape ke kopana le morafe, go utlwa dikgwetlho tsa bone, gore mathata ke eng fa re bona dikopo tsa bone di le kwa tlase kwa CEDA.

Le bone ba CEDA ba a lela gore dikopo go tsena kwa go bone di boutsana.
Jaanong mme se bo se nthaya se re, kana gongwe batho who submit applications tsa bone kwa CEDA, bogolo jang batho ba ba tlhokang thuso ya LEA, ba ba sa kgoneng go hira consultancies, ba nna ba tla kwa LEA gore e ba thuse to develop business plans tsa bone.
Jaanong gongwe ke re ke eme fela foo Honourable Minister, o supile gore your officers tse six tse ke bonang o di oketsa ka bakgweetsi le receptionist, ga ke itse gore a mo bophareng jwa karabo ya gago o ne o raya gore ke dipalo tse e reng fa re re re ngongoregela dipalo tsa batho ba ba thusang batho ka go tlhabolola mananeo a go kopa madi, e bo e le gore o ba tsentse mo teng, gore le bone ba a thusa mo karolong ya business advising.
Ke batla go itse gore fa o ne o ne akaretsa o re toropo ya Ghanzi le metse e mengwe, kana metse bontsi re na le dikgaolo tsa settlements, re na le metse kwa Kgaolong ya Ghanzi South, jaanong gone foo ga ke tlhaloganye gore fa e le gore o tsentse le metse ya Ghanzi South a o santse o ka supa gore wa re batho bao ba lekane ka dipalo.
Ke re ke eme fela foo Minister, ke go kope gore, o batle nako re etele kgaolo ya me re ye to engage setšhaba, banana, gongwe o tlaa tlhaloganya go feta foo gore dipalo tsa batho ba gago ba ba thusang batho go tsaya ikopelo kwa bo CEDA di a tlhaela.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

gore bomangmang ba bane jaanong fa ke amogela dipego go tswa kwa Ghanzi, di supa gore sentlesentle an officer o tshwanetse e bo e le gore a thuse batho ba le masome a matlhano.
Ka itemogelo ya bone ba iphitlhela e le gore on average ba thusa batho per officer ba le masome a mabedi.

Jaanong selo se se supafala gore o kare officers tseo di under worked, Batswana go tswa ntlheng ele ya Ghanzi ga ba anywe dithuso mo go bone ka mmetela o re neng re o sofeletse.

Jaaka ke tlhalosa, a motlotlegi a kgone gore a nkopanye le ba ba mo romileng, I am open to persuasion fa ba ntshupegetsa gore ka boammaaruri ga re bone ditirelo.
Gone ke a itse gore se sengwe se se tleng se bake ngongora ya tlhaelo ya ditirelo ke gore mongwe wa officers e bo e le gore o romilwe kwa Gaborone kana ba le babedi, e bo e re fa Batswana ba goroga kwa diofising ba bo ba feta ba tewa gotwe ga a yo o ile kwa Gaborone.

Jaanong selo se ke itse gore se tle se ngomole pelo, se ntshe mokola.
Jaaka ke ne ke tlhalosa ke re go etle go tlhotsiwe mme ga ke dumalane gore fa go kile ga tlhotsiwa ka letsatsi le lengwe kana a mabedi, go ka kaiwa jaanong e le gore go lolea, go tlhaela.

Like I say, fa ke balela le one ke tlhalosa gore go thusiwa gantsi le metse e e mabapi, ke santse ke ntse ke re the information at my disposal, ga ke ise ke amogele sepe ntle le gore motlotlegi ka boene e bo e le gore he makes the contention ya gore bodiredi bo a tlhaela kwa Ghanzi.
I am open to persuasion and improvement Mr Speaker, fa e le gore on the ground, seemo ke sone seo.

Ke tsaya gore ke arabile, ke eme.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Ramogapi, supplementary.

last MR RAMOGAPI: Last supplementary.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Tona, ke ne ke re ke go botse gore fa o latola gore ga o itse fa go na le tlhaelo, a ga o itse ka retrenchment e e ileng ya dirwa ke batho ba LEA towards general election ka 2018, golo gongwe gone foo kana ka 2019, ba ba neng ba kgaolwa mo ditirong?
Sa bobedi; a ga o itse ka gore LEA e supile gore tota e a tlhaelelwa ga e na madi mme e bile bothata jo bo kwa Ghanzi ga se ene fela, le kwa Serowe re na le jone.

Ke raya gore a ko o e tlhotlhomise sentle rraetsho, ba go neele karabo e e tsepameng ka gore rona mo ground ba re bolelela mabaka a go tlhaelelwa ke madi e bile ke ka moo ba dirileng retrenchment.

Ke a leboga.

MR KGAFELA: Mr Speaker, ga ke dingalo fa go tsena mo dipuisanyong.
I am open to persuasion mme fela e rile fa ke bala batho ba le barataro, ke ne ka tlhalosa gore mokgweetsi le receptionist ke support staff.

Ka tlhalosa MR KGAFELA: Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, bogakolodi jo bo duleng ke gore re leke go dira go le gontsi ka go le gonnye mo diatleng.
Jaanong I am not aware gore a fa gotwe tlhaelo ya madi e tsene 7 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER ka lebati la LEA, a e reela gone gore bonnye jo ba bo tshotseng ga ba kgone go dira bontsi jo re laetsweng gore re bo dire.

Dipotso tsa motlotlegi di disha mo go nna, le bone badiri ba LEA ga ke itse gore ba ka tswa ba dirwa ke eng gore ba se ka ba bua le nna ke le Tona, ba impegelela gore ba a tlhotsa, mabaka e le eng fa e le gore ba a tlhotsa.
Ke bua le moeteledipele wa bone yo re mo romileng, ke tsaya gore fa a mpha pego ya gore bana ba gagwe ba tsoga jang, pego eo e a bo e le truly representative of the status.

Ga ke ka ke ka gana gore ke mo tlole ke ye kwa tlase, ke ye go utlwa from the horse’s mouth fa e le gore ba tlaa se ka ba boifa go bua gore ba intlhalosetse gore a ga ba a tsoga kana ba tsogile mo ditirelong tse ba tshwanetseng gore ba di neele Batswana.
Retrenchment ga ke eletse gore ke ikgolege ka yone because ga ke a tla ke ipaakanyeditse go e araba.

The facts are not at the tip of my fingers and I cannot express an opinion ka yone until gongwe e le gore I have the facts.

Ga ke ka ke ka gana motlotlegi ka karabo.


Se ke tleng ke se dire, se ke sa se itseng e re morago ke se tsenye mo maranyaneng a website a Facebook ya rona ya Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry (MITI), gore motlotlegi a kgone gore a se sele koo se ke paletsweng ke go se araba fa ke le mo seraleng.

Ke eme Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.


AFFIRMATIVE ACTION INITIATIVE IN THE NATA-GWETA CONSTITUENCY MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology to state the number of students who were sponsored for tertiary institutions through the Affirmative Action the Nata-Gweta initiative Constituency.
in TERTIARY ASSISTANT MINISTER OF EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (MR LESASO): Thank you Mr Speaker, good afternoon and to you too Honourable Members.

Tla ke go leboge Honourable Majaga ka potso e o e boditseng gompieno.

Ke arabe ke re Mr Speaker, a total of 24 beneficiaries were sponsored for tertiary education special dispensation programme in the Nata- Gweta Constituency.
These being 11 under the Remote Area Dweller Programme (RADP) and 13 under the Orphans and Vulnerable Children (OVC) Programme.

These beneficiaries were assessed and registered with the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development.

I would like to add also Mr Speaker, that since 2012 up to 2022, students who were sponsored under RAC were a total of 1,595, OVC 10,513 and SCN which is the Special Education Needs 246.

E bo e tlisa palo kwa go 12,354.


Gape ke re bana ba e leng gore ba tsewa kwa dikoleng, fa go tlhokega gore ba tsewe, ba points tse 36 bone ba tsewa ka 31.

Ke yone eo karabo Mr Speaker.

I thank you.

MR MAJAGA: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke go leboge Motlotlegi Tona.

O arabile ke utlule, le Batswana kwa Nata-Gweta ba a utlwa.
Ke ne ke re gongwe motho o ka e latedisa ka gore mme ga lona ka fa le ka thusang kana still doors are open fa e le gore ba Ministry wa Local Government ba leka go ba thusa gore gongwe re oketse dipalo?

Ke botsa seo ka gore mo dingwageng tse pedi tse di fetileng, go ne go na le bothata mo lephateng la lona through these brigades and vocational, kana selo seo se santse se le teng.
Kana gongwe ke sone se se neng se dira gore dipalo tsa bana ba di se ka tsa nna dintsi gore ba tsene mo vocational le brigades ka gore tota botshelo jaanong ke technicians; bo gone koo kwa plumbing le tse dingwe.

Ke gone kwa go nang le tiro.

A mme seemo seo le se baakantse Tona, re tlaa bona dikole tsone tseo through lephata la lona di kopa baikopedi gore can apply ka bokete?
Kana bothata fa gongwe bo a bo bo dirwa ke ba Local Government e le bone ba ba sa thuseng bana ba gore ba ka nna ka dipalo, ba ka goroga ka dipalo kana fa gongwe bo mo go rona, lona le bone.

Thank you.

MR LESASO: Thank you Honourable Majaga.

Kana jaaka ke tlhalosa gore the beneficiaries tsotlhe are assessed by the Ministry of Local Government, rona ke go ba amogela jaaka ba ba tlisa kwa go rona.
Dipalo tse ba di tlisang kwa go rona jaaka ke bua gore ba fiwa priority over other students gore ba tsewe mme fela go na le dipalo tse di kalo tse e leng gore di teng tsa bana ba ba tlhokang thuso e e ntseng jalo.

Re na le maikaelelo a gore re ba amogele mo dikoleng tse ba tshwanetseng gore ba tsewe teng.
Ke tsaya gore eo re ka e tshwaraganela le ba Local Government fa ba leng teng, ba re supegetsa gore bana ke ba kana ba na le letlhoko gore re kgone go ba tsaya re ba tsenye mo dikoleng tse ba di tlhokang.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR HIKUAMA: Last supplementary.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Tona, ke ne ke re ke botse gore bana ba fa le sena go ba thusa jaana ka dithuto tse le ba thusang ka tsone, le gokagana jang le batho ba ba hirang ka gore I do not think it is just a question of training them, re bo 8 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER re ba latlha?

It is a question of us training them, re bo re ba thusa gore ba tle ba kgone botshelo ka bobone, ba ikemele.

That is why e le Affirmative Action.


A go na le lenaneo le le ntseng jaana le le gokaganyang go fetsa ga bone le dikole, le go bona ga bone ditiro?

A go na le ka fa ba thusiwang ka teng le ka fa le ikgolaganyang ka teng le maphata a a ka hirang?

Ke a leboga.

MR LESASO: Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you Honourable Hikuama.
Eo ke e tshwaraganelwang ke ba Tertiary Education le ba Ministry of Employment, Labour Productive and Skills Development, ba e leng gore ke bone ba ba tshwanetseng gore ba amogele bana ba ba ntseng jalo.

Ga ke na karabo e ke ka go e neelang ya gore go na le kgokagano e e ntseng jalo, e e leng gore re golagane le ba ba hirang gore ba ka tsaya kgang e. Ke tsaya gore ke ka kgona go go senkela karabo eo, ke tle ke go thuse ka yone fa nako e ntse e tsweletse Honourable Member.

Tanki.
POVERTY ERADICATION PROGRAMME MR M. G. J. MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development: (i) if he is aware that beneficiaries of the Poverty Eradication Programme whose tuckshops are constructed from corrugated iron sheets are often denied to bid for tenders by the local council in the Ghanzi South Constituency; and (ii) whether there is a special dispensation in the tendering process of local authorities to give preference to intended beneficiaries of the above stated programme.
OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR PULE): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, good afternoon Sir, good afternoon Honourable Members!

Ke lebogela potso e e tswang kwa go Motlotlegi Motsamai Motsamai wa tsala ya me, yo a neng a batla go itse gore a re a itse re le lephata gore bagwebi botlhe ba ba dirisang tuck shops tse di dirilweng ka disenke, ba ilediwa go dira tenders.
Tota fela karabo ya me ka bokhutshwane e ne e re, ga re na kitso eo ya gore go na le bangwe ba ba tsewang ka letso legolo ba iletswa tenders ka gore mantlo a bone a agilwe ka disenke.

Ga re itse fa go ntse jalo, re itse fela gore go na le batho ba ba ntsi ba ba nang le tuck shops tse di agilweng ka mekgwa e e farologaneng, mme when they tender, ba a amogelwa, ga go nke go nna le bothata bope fela kwa kgaolong ya Gantsi e e tsenyang New Xade, West Hanahai le Bere.
Tuck shops tsotlhe that supply batlhoki, di a letlelelwa to tender.

Ke na le lists ya bone di le di ntsintsi fela tse e leng gore ke ka tla ka e kgaogana le motlotlegi gore a bone gore ke bafe mo go bone, a tle le ene a iponele gore ba bangwe businesses tsa bone di agilwe ka disenke.
Potso e nngwe e a neng a e botsa ke ya gore; fa ke e bala ka Sekgoa Motlotlegi a re, ‘whether there is a special dispensation in the tendering process of Local Authorities to give preference to intended beneficiaries of the above standing programme.’ Go ntse fela jalo jaaka ke ne ke bua, kana golo fa re bua ka business, mme gantsi fela jaaka e le tsamaiso ya Puso, re lebelela the local businesses, ke tsone di fiwang preference during tendering.
Kana le yone preference ya teng, ga se gore e dirwa fela Setswana, go a lebelelwa gore a mme ene mogwebi yoo, a o ka kgona to supply batho, but fa a supile gore o ka kgona, re kgona gore re ba neele, mme e bile mo dinakong tse dingwe, ba direlwa mo go tweng ke direct appointment, gongwe e le gore o foo ga a compete le ba bangwe.

Fa e le gore o na le ba bangwe, go dirwa tender fela a itshupe ka botlalo gore o a kgona.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR MOTSAMAI: Mr Speaker, ke a leboga.


Tona, fa o ya kwa kgaolong ya Gantsi South ka bophara, mo settlements tota, fa o ka fitlhela batho ba rontshitswe to supply ka lebaka la gore gatwe dimausu tsa bone di agilwe ka disenke, o tlaa tsaya kgato efe?

A ba ba rontshitsweng tenders tseo, o tlaa ba duela phimolo dikeledi ya gore ba ka bo ba ne ba tsentswe mo streaming le bone ba iteka lesego?
Le gore Tona, o dirile matsapa a le kae mo kgannyeng e o ntseng o wela ka yone, y a gore batho ba le ba tsayang le re le nyeletsa lehuma, kana ke ba nyeletso lehuma, le ba neela dimausu tsa disenke, le tsere matsapa afe gore dikhansele di bone gore batho bao ba a thusiwa go inamola mo lehumeng leo ka go ba direla lenaneo le le special la gore ga ba tshwane le batho ba bangwe ka lebaka la gore you assessed them, la ba la bona gore ba na le lehuma, mme e bile le batla go nyeletsa lehuma la bone.
Le tsere matsapa afe?

Fa e le gore ga le a a tsaya Tona, gongwe le ba lekanya le mongwe le mongwe, jaaka o re o bua ka business, le dirwa ke eng gore to assess batho le bo le ba neele mophuthelwana wa nyeletso lehuma jaaka dimausu, le bo le simolola le ba tshwantshanya le mongwe le mongwe ba sa graduate kana ba sa tswa mo lehumeng?
9 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER A mme yone kgang e, ga le bone e le bogole jwa go akanya gore e re batho ba ise ba tswe mo seemong se se ngomolang pelo, le bo le ba lekalekanya le mongwe le mongwe ka seemo Tona?
Ya bofelo ke gore, a mme ga le bone nako e tsile ya gore bogolo batho bone ba ba dimausu tsa disenke, ka le a ba kganela le fa o latola, le fa ke tsaya gore gongwe o tle o ikgate motlhala o ye go dira ditlhotlhomiso, a ga le bone gore bogolo dilo tse e leng gore ga se tse di bolang jaaka uniforms, ditlhako, diaparo le tse dingwe, ga se gore bogolo le bone gore dilo tseo ba kgone gore ba neelwe ba iketshe mo lehumeng Mr Speaker.

MR PULE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Kana ke ne ke ithaya ke re ke arabile motlotlegi, jaanong ke bona a santse a boelela dipotso gape tse ke neng ke ntse ke leka go di araba.
Gongwe e e farologaneng ke ya gore, fa e le gore motho ga a a kgona go bona sebaka sa go fenya tender, ke sa itse gore ka gore ka goring, ka gore ke tlhalositse ka re Khansele ya Gantsi ga e na tlhaolele, bogolo jang mo dikgwebong tse di thusiwang ke Puso jaaka ba Poverty Eradication programme, because maikaelelo a rona ke gore batho ba go nna jalo ba graduate mo lehumeng.
So re tshwanetse go ba ema nokeng ka mekgwa yotlhe ya gore ba gole, ba kgone gore ba dire dikgwebo, ba compete le businesses tse dingwe tse di kgolwane mo Gantsi.

Jaanong ga e ka ke ya re fela ka gore motho o agile business ya gagwe ka disenke, mme a na le se se tlhokafalang, re bo re re nnyaa, ga re ka ke ra mo tsenya mo tenders, e tlaabo ele phoso e tona e e dirwang ke Gantsi District Council.

E rile fa re ...(inaudible)… lemoga gore tota ga se boammaaruri, ga go a nna jalo, ga ba tsewe ka letso legolo.
O ne o bua gore re tsere matsapa afe go bona gore batho bao ba tswa mo leubeng, ke yone kgang e ke buang ka yone ke re, matsapa a rona a re a tsereng ke gore, even when it is necessary fa gongwe, re kgona go dira mo go tweng direct appointment of the supplier go leka gore re mo ntshe kwa morago.

Tota ke tsaya gore matsapa a tserwe gore mo diemong tse dingwe, ba direlwe direct appointment, mme tse dingwe fa e le gore ba ba ntsi ba a compete, re dire tenders, re neele yo o kgonang go gaisa ba bangwe.
Jaanong o bua ka bogole jwa go akanya, ga ke itse gore re golafetse fa kae fa re dira tiro e e kanakana ya go akanyetsa batho gore re ba ntshe mo lehumeng, wena o le motlotlegi o bo o re re golafetse.

Ga ke itse gore re golafetse fa kae.

Ke tsaya fela gore re dira tiro fela e e siameng motlotlegi.
Lefoko le ke le ratang ke fa o re gongwe ke tlhotlhomise kgang e. Kana fa o ntse fa o le Tona, o fiwa information e e tswang kwa kgaolong, ga e ka ke ya re fa o e neelwa o bo o e gana o re nnyaa, ga le mpolelele nnete, mme o solofela gore bodiredi jo bo koo ka gore ke bodiredi jwa maemo a a kwa godimo, ga ba kake ba go bolelela se e seng boammaaruri.
Fa e le gore wena o le motlotlegi o a belaela gore golo gongwe go na le tlhaolele, ke a go tshepisa rraetsho gore kgang e ke tlaa e tlhotlhomisa, re bone gore re ka e baya ka mokgwa o o ntseng jang.
Ya perishables, ga ke itse gore diemo tsa gore batho ba di tshole mo dishopong tsa bone di bo di felela di senyega di sa rekisiswe, di dirwa ke eng, ka gore fa e le gore di teng di enough, mme re batla to supply jaaka re na le school feeding programmes jalo le jalo, those perishables ga ke tseye gore di tsaya lebaka mo di ka felelang di bolela mo dishopong jaaka o bua motlotlegi.
Ke tlaa go kopa gore ka gore wena o a bo o le teng on the ground, fa go nna le dikgang tse di ntseng jaana, gongwe o di re bolelele re kgone gore re ye go tlhotlhomisa gore ke eng those perishables di ne tsa bola motho mme ene a emetse gore o ne a ka thusa setšhaba ka fa a ka thusang ka teng.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR MOTSAMAI: Last supplementary.

MR SPEAKER: We are running out of time Honourable Motsamai.

MR MOTSAMAI: Okay.
MR MOTSAMAI: Okay.

ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) APPROPRIATION (2022/2023) BILL, 2022 (NO.

2 OF 2022) ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY (Resumed Debate) Wa re re ba tshwantsha le bangwe le bangwe, nnyaa, ga re ba tshwantshe le bangwe le bangwe jaaka o bua Motlotlegi ka boikokobetso, re ba fa mo go tweng special dispensation e o ntseng o bua ka yone fa o bua ka Sekgoa.
(MR MR CHAIRPERSON SKELEMANI): Honourable Members, the debate on this Bill is resuming, when the House adjourned last Thursday, Honourable Nkawana was on the floor debating and is left with nine minutes 43 seconds.

10 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) MR NKAWANA (SELEBI PHIKWE EAST): Tla ke go leboge Modulasetilo.
Ke go lebogela sebaka se o se mphileng, mme ke dumela gore tota … (Interruptions)…kwa gae kwa Selebi Phikwe, ke dumedisa le Mapalamente a a leng teng.

Puisano e ke tlaa e buang gompieno Mr Chairperson, ke eletsa ke simolole jaana, re bua ka trade and investment.

Kana selo sa ntlha se re tshwanetseng ra se leba, ke lefatshe.

Trade does not happen or take place in a vacuum, go diragalela mo lefatsheng.
Re tshwanetse ra bo re bua le batho ka batho, mme re bua gore ba dire ditiro tsa bone, ba di direla mo lefatsheng le ba le neilweng ke Puso.

Re tshwanetse ra bua ka tse ba tlaabong ba di dira in the manufacturing sector, gore ba tshwanetse ba dire jalo, ba direla mo lefatsheng le ba le neilweng ke Puso.
Motho o ka ipotsa gore Tona fa a bua ka one madi a, a mo ditshekatshekong tsa gagwe gompieno, o factor dikgang tsa lefatshe tse di tshwanetseng go neelwa bagwebi botlhe ka mefuta le ba ba tlaabong ba dira dithoto, ba di dira for local consumption and for the external market.
A gone moo, ene o na le seabe go buisanya le ba bangwe ba bo land board gore go batlega lefatshe le le ntseng jang, le le kana ka eng, mme e bile fa a lebile, o bona e le gore projections tsa gagwe di ntse jang gore re tlhokana le dithoto tse di kana ka eng, re ka kgona go dira dithoto tse di kae mo ngwageng oo, and therefore, re batla lefatshe le le kae.
E se tsone fela, di a tsamaelana, re tshwanetse gore re bo re mmotse gape gore kana go tlhokafala gore go nne le metsi, go tshwanetse gore go nne le motlakase le tse dingwe fela jalo.

A ene fa a ntse a bua ka dilo tse, o a tle a gakologelwe gore totatota mo kabong ya lefatshe, o na le seabe?

Go na le batho ba gagwe ba ba tshwanetseng gore ba tsene mo dikgwebong tseo.
Mr Chairperson, ke lebile gone mo gore kana fa re bua ka kabo ya lefatshe, gantsi o tlaabo gongwe o tla ka project, o re o kopa madi, sekai; kwa CEDA, Tona a bo a dumela, mme fa gotwe go iwa kwa land board, land board e bo e feta e gana e re yone ga e ka ke ya go neela se o se tlhokang, gongwe le gone ga e ka ke ya go neela madi a o a tlhokang in terms of the size.

Ba fokotsa to the extent ya gore project ya gago ga e tlhole e nna viable.
Ga ke reye gore ke bua ka CEDA, ke santse ke bua ka lefatshe gore fa re ya kwa pele, Tona o tshwanetse gore a nne bontlha bongwe jwa dithulaganyo le paakanyetso lefatshe fa a bua ka dikgwebo tsa gagwe tsotlhe ka kakaretso.

E nngwe kgang e ke batlang go bua ka yone, ke ya Botswana Development Corporation (BDC), ke bua ka BDC e le an investment arm of Government.

Gantsi batho ba le bantsi, ba e tla ba sa itse gore sentlesentle e segetswe tema e e kae.
Ke eletsa go bua gompieno ka seabe sa BDC se se leng ka fa ntlheng ya bojanala, ka gore BDC e tseneletse kgwebo ya bojanala.

Yes, indeed it is important gore BDC e ka tsenelela kgwebo e e ntseng jalo, mme go na le mathata a re a bonang Tona gore fa o tseneletse dikgang tse, go bo go e tla go nna le tse di fatlhang jaaka ke ka fa sekai gore o kile wa aga hotel kwa Ghanzi through CEDA, ya re go ntse go tsweletse, wa e reka gape mo go yo o neng o mo e agela ka madi a mantsintsi.
Wena o ne o e agile ka 5 million, mme e rile fa o ya go e reka mo go ene mogwebi yoo, o e rekile ka around 20, a bo o boa o e rekisa gape e ntse e le wena.

O dirile jalo, wa ya kwa Kasane, wa aga lodge ka madi a a kana ka 5 million, wa boa wa e reka gape mo mothong yo o neng o e mo agela, mme from there, a bo o boa o e rekisa.

Maabane jaana, re bone o aga e nngwe kwa Mamuno.

E o e agile direct, mme le yone o e rekisitse.


Motho o ka ipotsa gore tlhakatlhakano le ketsaetsego e e ntseng jaana Honourable Minister, e ka tswa e tsalwa ke eng.

A e tsalwa ke gore o na le keletso jaaka e le mandate wa gago wa go tsena mo industry, mme o sena boitseanape?

Go botlhokwa thata, ke eletsa gone fa gore mo tirong ya gago, o nne o tsaya sebaka to identify the rightful people, ba ba nang le proper skills go tsamaisa tiro ya mofuta one oo.
Mr Chairperson, go botlhokwa thata gore e re fa re dira jaana, Minister a iphe nako ya go itshekatsheka gore a mme gone e seng gore dilo dingwe ke di dira fela ke sena bokgoni.

Gongwe ke simolole sesha, ke taboge ke go fe sekai ka SPEDU se se leng mo kgaolong ya rona mo Phikwe, le gone keletso e motho a nang le yone, ke go bona Tona e le gore through SPEDU o dira proper resource identification ya gore re na le eng, sekai fela kwa Phikwe, Bobirwa, Tswapong le kwa Kgaolong ya Mmadinare.
A bo a package, mme fa a di package jaana, at a local level, a bo e le gore fa a rekisa se a se rekisang kwa go ba a ba rekisetsang ba mafatshe a sele, o rekisa gongwe e bile a dirile a dummy project proposal e go ka rekisegang botoka.

Le ka bo ene, a tlhodile gore will this be a viable project ka gore ga re ka ke ra tsamaya re tlhotlhoma mo mafatsheng re re re a rekisa, mme re sa itse gore mo re go rekisang a moreki o ka go reka.
Go seng jalo, re tlile go nna re bona batho ba tla, ba reka mo re ithayang re re re na le gone.

Fa ba tsena ba bo ba simolola ba tsaya nako yotlhe jaaka gompieno re bona BCL e le gore re ne re solofetse gore e tlaa bulwa 11 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) mo ngwageng o, mme gatwe e tlaa bulwa ka ngwaga wa 2024 ka gore ke gone jaanong ba santseng ba tlhola viability ya bone.
Jaanong fa e ne e ka re re tsamaya jaana, re bo re dirile tsotlhe tse di tlhokafalang, at least e re fa mogwebi a tla kwano, a bo e le to sharpen project fela, mme re mo e rekisetsa e le gore we have done the ground work, re mo e rekisetsa as a going concern.
Mr Chairperson, motho o ka botsa gape gore mo maphataneng a ga Minister a a farologaneng, trade and investment, le a mangwe fela jalo a Puso a a seng ka fa tlase ga gagwe… legale re utlwile Minister a supa gore golo gongwe o tlaabo a sekaseka, a kgaoganya, a leka to rationalise gore go botlhokwa gore re bo re itse gore Botswana Investment and Trade Centre (BITC) fa e tsamaya e rekisa jaana, e tshotse eng mo kgetsing ya yone.
Go botlhokwa gore re itse gore SPEDU fa se rekisa projects tse di leng teng mo kgaolong, sone se tshotse eng.

A e seng gore re tsamaya le mongwe le mongwe a tshotse kgetsana ya thekiso, mme se se leng mo dikgetsing tsa bone se tshwana?

Re tshwanetse ra itse gape gore Special Economic Zones (SEZs) tsone tse re di rekisang mo go bone, fa re di rekisa jaana, a ga re duplicate efforts.
Se se itumedisang ke gore jaaka ke bua, Minister of Finance and Economic Development o supile gore e tlaa re fa ngwaga o simologa ka April a bo a setse a di sekasekile.

Keletso ya me Mr Chairperson ke yone eo ya gore, a tse tsotlhe re di dire re lebile gore re na le batho ba ba kgonang ba ba ka dirang tiro eo.

Do we have qualified staff, ba ba nang le the necessary expertise to execute ditiro tse a di ba neelang.
Sa bofelo Mr Chairperson fa ke na le nako, ke bue ka banana gore fa re ntse re neela batho madi through CEDA and others, re ko re nne le special dispensation mo go bonalang mo bananeng.

E seng mo o kareng ke ga ditlhopho, e seng ga lemmenyana.

Re bua ka dikgwebo tse di ka itshetlelang, tsa ikemela di ka se ke se digwe (collapse) fela ke selonyana se se nnyennyane.
Dikgwebo tse e kareng fa monana a e tshotse a kgona go gaisana le ba bangwe ba mafatshe, e bile tota se se tonatona ke gore re ba kgotlhatse go dira dithoto which will be of export quality and they can compete internationally le bagwebi ba ba dirang dithoto tse gongwe di tsamaelanang le tsa rona, gongwe re ipharologanye le bone ka go dira tse di botoka thata gore re tle re kgone go phadisana le… MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much Honourable Nkawana.

Honourable Moatlhodi.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Chairperson.


Procedure Mr …Silence… HONOURABLE MEMBER: O itheeditse.

MR BALOPI (GABORONE NORTH): Ke a leboga Modulasetilo, ke go dumedise tshokologong eno, ke dumedise batlotlegi e bile ke dumedise Batswana kwa gae.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: sorry Mr Chairperson, maranyane a ne a nkganela, ke gone ke kgonang.

I am MR BALOPI: Kana ke gore o a ntsenelela.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Intshwarele ngwana wa ga nkgonne, gape ke tenwa ke ba ba senang maitseo ba ba ntseng ba re ke itheeditse ba.
Intshwarele ngwana wa ga nkgonne.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Balopi has the floor.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Thank you sir, I will come later.

MR BALOPI: Ke a leboga Modulasetilo.

Ke akgele e bile ke eme nokeng Tona mo kopong ya gagwe ya madi a go ka ya go diragatsa mo Lephateng la Peeletso, Papadi le Madirelo.

E re fa ke mo ema nokeng jalo Modulasetilo, fa o leba maitlamo a Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) mo Page 14 mo re buang ka policy review, fa o ka ntetlelela gore ke bale ka bofefo Modulasetilo.
MR CHAIRPERSON: Proceed.

MR BALOPI: “The BDP led Government aims to partner with the private sector to grow the country’s economy.

In this regard we will undertake major policy structural reforms to make Botswana attractive and improve service delivery in order to stimulate domestic and international investment.
The BDP led Government will identify policy, legislation and institutions requiring reform to make the environment conducive for economic transformation and cause the necessary reform.” Fa ke tswelela kwa go kwadilweng ka nako gatwe, “recognising that there is an urgency to bring about change, and that business as usual is not an option and to make sure that bold decisions are taken quickly.” Ke bua se jalo ka boripana Modulasetilo ka gore, re na le lenaneo le re le ipeileng fa pele re le tšhaba ya Botswana la Vision 2036 e e buileng gore ka ngwaga wa 2036 re 12 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) tshwanetse gore re bo re le itsholelo ya letseno le le kwa godimo, re tswa fa re leng teng mo letsenong la bogare, go ya kwa godimo.
Gore re kgone go dira jaana ke gore, jaaka ke ne ke sa tswa go nankola mo maitlamong a rona a BDP, go raya gore re tshwanetse gore re tsetele adimo, re tswe mo go reng re direng dilo ka ditsela tse re ntseng re dira ka tsone, ka gore fa re ka se ke re dire jalo, go tlaa nna la mathata a gore re fitlhelele toro ya rona e. Gore re kgone go tsena mo seemong seo, jaaka re itse gore re na le lenaneo le le neng le eteletswe pele ke Tautona wa lefatshe la Botswana a le baya lefatshe pele la the RESET Agenda kana Tlhomo Sesha ya Megopolo, go tlaabo go na le mo gotweng mind-set change.
Ke kile ka bua maloba fa ke tsibogela kabo madi ya ga Honourable Serame gore, re tshwanetse re nne le mo gotweng disruptive mind-set change.

Re nne le melao, ditsamaiso le mananeo a a sa tlholeng a re letlelela gore re ka adima tshwene marapo.

Re tshwanetse re dire mananeo a e tlaa reng kamoso mongwe le mongwe a bo a itse gore kwa bofelong o dirile ka mashetla go bona gore Motswana, segolo jang Motswana wa sekei, o a ungwelwa mo lefatsheng la rona.
Re buile re dira melao e tshwana le Economic Inclusion Law, le tsa theko e le molao.

Ra boa ra rotloetsa gore go nne le gore batho ba ka ikaga, ba dira mmogo go ka tsena mo dikgwebong gore ba ikgodise e le setšhaba.

Se re ka se letlelela fela gore se diragale jalo fa re ka kgona gore, rona re le Puso Honourable Kgafela, re itse gore tse dintle di se ka tsa bonelwa fela mo go reng e bo di rotloetsa bagwebi ba ba beeletsang ba tswa kwa mafatsheng a sele.
Re tshwanetse go simolola mo gae gore, this ease of doing business e bonelwe pele mo benggaeng, ka gore ke gone mo go tlaa ngokang bagwebi ba ba tswang kwa mafatsheng a mangwe go tla go bona gore benggae ba, ba a dira, go bofefo go ka bona dithuso.

Dikgwebo tsa bone di a rotloediwa, e bile ga ba na lefufa mo go bone le le gogelang ba bangwe kwa tlase.
Fa ba lemoga gore motho o a iteka mo lefatsheng le, ba a mo rotloetsa, ba a mo tataisa, ba mo ela tlhoko (mentoring and monitoring) gore kgwebo ya gagwe e a fela.

Go se ka ga nna ka letsatsi lepe le monggae e le mogwebi, e le mmeeletsi go na le nako e gotweng o jele go ntse, go neelwe yo mongwe.
Go itsiwe gore fa a gola a nna motona, o rotloetsa ba ba tswang kwa morago, gore le bone ba itse gore o a kgona o le Motswana wa sekei o ka kgona go dira, o gola o bo o tsena mo dikgwebong tse le wena o felelang o tswa mo lefatsheng le o le mongwe wa batho ba ba ka ka kgatlhegelwang ke mafatshe a mangwe, gore o ka ya go beeletsa mo mafatsheng a mangwe.

Ka jalo tse tsotlhe tse, ke dumela gore fa re ka di dira ka tlhwaafalo re tlaa kgona gore re ungwelwe.
Ke batla gore ke taboge ka bofefo ka ntata ya nako Modulasetilo, ke ye mo Page 2 point number 6, mo Tona a neng a supa gore mo nakong e segajaja sa COVID se ntseng se le teng, go thusitswe dikgwebo di le kae ka lenaneo la Letlhabile.

Fa o ka ela tlhoko o buile ka P37 million, a thusa bagwebi ba le 7 914.
Go supa gore re lefatshe la dikgwebo tse di fa gare kana tse di potlana, o tlaa bona gore fa o tsaya P37 million yo o bo o mo kgaoganya ka dikgwebo di le 7 914, go raya gore kgwebo nngwe le nngwe e ne e thusiwa ka P4 750.

Ke raya fa o e dira o tsaya dipalo o dira jalo.

O bo o ipotsa gore, go ya go thusa dikgwebo tse di kana ka eng di le thusa ka bokete jo bo kana ka eng.
Fa re lebelela go kwadisa kgwebo gore e letlelelwe go dira mo lefatsheng la rona teng kwa lephateng la gago kwa Companies and Intellectual Property Authority (CIPA), ke P3 500.

Fa e le gore o ne o thusa mogwebi mmotlana ka P4 750, o lemoga gore P1 200 ke ene fela yo o neng a tsamaya go ka dira jalo.

Ke tsaya gore gongwe motho wa teng o ne a tshwanetse gore a ikwadise (register).

Ke dirisa dipalo tse fela go go supegetsa gore re santse re le lefatshe le le tsamayang ka dikgwebo tse di nnyennyane thata.
Se ke lekang go se bua ke gore re simolole go ela tlhoko selo se ka gore fa e le gore re tlaa nnela ruri re le mamponyemponye re sa gole mo kgwebong, go ya go re paledisa le rona gore re gole, e bile re bo re nne baungwelwa bagolo mo lefatsheng la rona.
Ka jalo re tshwanetse gore re simolole go bona gore this ease of doing business, Motswana fela jaaka re ne re dule ka mananeo a gore o ka dira kgwebo e re o ntse o tsweletse e bo e kgona gore jaanong e baakanngwe ke bodiredi bo go thuse, bo go rotloetse, bo go nonotshe mo kgwebong e, ke sone fela se se ka dirang gore Motswana e nne moakodi mogolo mo itsholelong e. Ke batla go dirisa sekai se fela gore ditiro tse o reng di dirilwe, mo go tsone dikgwebo tse, di lekana le dikgwebo.
Le tsone di dikete tse supa, makgolo a borobabongwe le lesome le bone (7, 914).

Mo go rayang gore kgwebo nngwe le nngwe go ne go tshegediwa tiro e le nngwefela.

Ka jalo, go nna thata gore go ya kwa pele lefatshe la rona le gole, ditiro di tlhamiwe di le dintsi.

Re tshwanetse re dire ka bomo re le Puso Tona, gore re itebaganye le go godisa Motswana.
Go simolole mo go rona go supa gore re a rotloetsa, re sala morago motlhala 13 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) wa motho yo o itekang.

Ga se mongwe le mongwe fela yo o rutegileng kana yo o nang le dithutego tse di tsamaelanang le tsa kgwebo yo o kgonang go tsena mo kgwebong.
Re bone bagwebi ba le bantsi, e seng fela mo Botswana, lefatshe ka bophara, ba dithutego tsa bone e seng tse di kalokalo mme ba tsena ka bokete mo kgwebong.

Ka jalo, fa gongwe fa re simolola go dirisa gore re ka ba sala morago ka maranyane jaaka o ne o bua gore LEA e ya go dira contact centres jaana, o ka nna wa fitlhela ba sena boitseanape mme ba na le sebete se se tseneletseng sa go dira kgwebo.
Ke batla go rotloetsa ntswa ke letla gore madi a o a bone, a re simolole go akanya gore tota mme gone ke eng se re ka se dirang gore re ye kwa letsenong le le kwa godimo jaaka e le maikaelelo a toro ya rona.

E tle e re kwa bofelong sengwe le sengwe jaaka re buile gore re tshwanetse go dira mo gotweng bold decisions, e se ka ya tlhola e nna business as usual ka gore mo bogompienong mongwame, e santse e le business as usual.

Fa ke wela Modulasetilo, go na le SEZs.


Ke dumela gore Tona, Botswana in its entirety because we are 2.3 million, re lefatshe le le nang le ditlhabololo tse di tshwanang le tsa ditsela, di gokaganya metse yotlhe e megolwane, kwa bojanaleng le gongwe le gongwe.

Re tshwanetse re dire Botswana a SEZ jaaka e le maikaelelo a maranyane.

Go se ka ga nna le gope fa e tlaareng motho a le teng, ke gone a ka kgonang go dira kgwebo botoka.
A itse fela gore fa re le mo Botswana, sengwe le sengwe se a diragala, e bile Botswana is a solution, re nne the Dubai of Africa.

Go a re letla, re filwe diteemane, metsi fa a kgonegang teng, re filwe dikakanyo le batho ba ba nang le ledula.

Ka jalo, ke dumela gore we can be a very attractive country fa re simolola re dira deliberate and bold decisions.

E tle e re kwa bofelong, mongwe le mongwe Motswana le yo o re lebileng a le kwa ntle, a eletse go tla go beeletsa gone fa.
Re nne a logistics hub in the region as a passage to Africa jaaka re setse re na le marogo jaana.

Batho ba tlaabo ba itse gore re sireletsegile, e bile re ka ba boloka mo dikgwebong.

Ke a leboga Modulasetilo.

MR MOATLHODI (TONOTA): Ke a go leboga Motlotlegi Modulasetilo.

Good afternoon sir.

Once more, my deepest apologies ka tiragalo e e mpe e e kileng ya ntiragalela kgantele.
Ka Setswana ra re, “more wa gole o etswa motlha wa tsholo.” Mma ke dirise lekalana le, go bua gore e rile kgantele ka nako ya dikgang, Radio Botswana ya re bolela gore naletsana ya rona, sethunya sa rona, morweetsana Palesa Molefe, Mma Botswana wa rona, o tlaabo a emelela beke eno go ya makgaolakgang a kgaisanyo ya Mmabontle wa Lefatshe kwa Puerto Rico.

Ke tsaya sebaka se go kopa setšhaba sa lefatshe leno la rona go rapelela Mma Botswana wa rona gore a atlege kwa a yang teng.
E re morago fa a boela monogae, a boe e se Mma Botswana, a boe e le Mma Lebopo.

Phenyo ya gagwe e tlaa goletsa lefatshe leno la rona go ya mankalengkaleng.

I can only say, good luck to our Mma Botswana.

Motlotlegi Modulasetilo, ke na le dintlha tse pedi tse di ntshwenyang thata.

Kwa Francistown go na le madirelo a matona a a rokang a bidiwa gotwe Northern Textile (Nortex).

Nortex ke ya monna mongwe wa motswakwa o bidiwa gotwe Mr Mukesh Josh le fa gompieno malatsing a e tsamaisiwa ke ngwana wa gagwe.
Nortex e hira Batswana ba le 500 mme e bapane le plot e gotweng ke ya Botswana Telecommunications.

Ga e na sepe, Telecoms e e dirisa fela as a dumping site mme Nortex e eletsa go gola thata to produce.

E eletsa go gola thata gore e hire Batswana ba le 1, 200, jaanong Telecoms e gana ka plot e. Ke batla go ikuela mo go wena Tona Kgafela o na le mokaulengwe wa gago Rraetsho Mzwinila.

I pray for your intervention Honourable Kgafela le wena Rraetsho Mzwinila.
I am very much alive to the fact that Rraetsho Kgafela le Rraetsho Mzwinila can authoritatively as well as arbitrarily intervene to allocate a different plot to Botswana Telecoms with a view that it should vacate this plot adjacent to Nortex gore e tle e gole.

Ke na le matshwenyego a matona Modulasetilo, Nortex e sa tswa go reka madirelo a mangwe kwa South Africa kwa Lady Smith, e hira maSouth Africa ba le 500.

E bile Goromente wa Aferika Borwa o ba neetse 20, 000 more hectares gore ba gole.
Ke na le poifo that Nortex may relocate to South Africa.

Fa re ka tlogela Nortex e tsamaya, Batswana ba rona ba ba kanakana, go na le bana ba Tonota ba ba berekang in this firm, fa ba ka latlhegelwa ke matshelo a a kanakana, re ya go dira jang?
Ke a itela Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona, a ko o bone sebaka fela o etele kwa Nortex mme o tseye monkane wa gago Rre Mzwinila le thusane kgang e. E kile ya re pele ga o goroga Mokgatla, ka ikuela mo go your predecessor, go ne go na le madirelo a a dirang digaugau kwa Tonota a bidiwa gotwe Redos kwa Shashe.
Ba Redos ba mpitsa, ba mpolelela gore “rra, re a tswalela re a tsamaya, Goromente wa gago le fa re re re a ngongorega, o gana go re reetsa.” Ke ne ka bolelela your predecessor gore re latlhegelwa ke Redos, ka tsweetswee re thuse Tona o eme ka dinao.

A buabua le bone, go bonagetse ba se ka ba welana, Redos ya thotha ya tsamaya.
Batswana ba le 160 ba 14 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) ba neng ba berekela mo Redos, ba latlhegelwa ke tiro.

Redos ya emelela ya ya kwa Namibia.

Ke na le poifo e e kgolo thata, ga ke robale ka firm e ya Nortex.

Nortex fa e ka emelela gompieno ya tsamaya, re bo re lebala ka botshelo jwa toropo ya Francistown.

Nortex fa e ka bona plot e, maikaelelo ke gore ba gole ba hire Batswana ba bantsi.
Puso yone ka boyosi, ga e ka ke ya kgona go hira bana ba ba kanakana, mme re thuse Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona.

O menelele o tseye monkane wa gago le ye go kopa gore Telecoms le e neele lefatshe go sele Nortex e kgone go gola.

Re tshwanetse ra itse ra bo ra tlhaloganya, ga ke lelele fela ditiro tsa bana ba ba kanakana, ke lelela le lekgetho le le kanakana le firm ya Nortex e le tsenyang into Botswana Unified Revenue Service (BURS), e kgetha madi a a seng kana ka sepe.
Re ya go latlhegelwa ke lekgetho le and fa le re latlhegela, definitely our Consolidated Fund is going to suffer.

Ke a le kopa barena ba me, emang ka dinao.

Ntlha e nngwe e ke batlang go e bua le wena Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona ke gore, ke a itse Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona o tletse lefatshe le lotlhe a leka go ngokela bagwebi mono.

A bagwebi ba ba gorogang Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona, ke a go rapela, firm e e tlileng go hira batho ba le 1, 000, e ise kwa Tonota.
A o e isa kwa Shashe-Mooke, Mmandunyane, Mabesekwa, e ise kwa kgaolong ya botlhophi ya Tonota kwa go nang le banana ba ba fetang 900 ba sa bereke.

Jaaka ke tlhola ke bua, kwa Tonota fa go na le selo sengwe se re ikgantshang ka sone ke metsi.

Letamo la Shashe is always plus/minus 90 something per cent every time.

Fa gotwe go leuba le kampo la nna bo plus, minus 85 per cent.

Metsi a teng, lefatshe gape le teng.

Tonota Subordinate Land Board is highly amenable.


Fa ke tla fela ke tla ke ba raya ke re, “mongwe ke yo a re o eletsa go tlhoma madirelo,” ba re, “mo reye a re neela plan ya gagwe re tlaa mo neela lefatshe.” Ke batho ba ba bonolo thata go neela motho lefatshe la madirelo.

Le kwa ntle ga lefatshe fela, re na le ditsela.

A1 e feta gaufi le Tonota.

Go na le seporo se se fetang gaufi le Tonota.

Go na le lebala la flying machines le le seng kgakgala le rona le le kwa Francistown.
Ke ditsompelo tse re segofaditsweng ka tsone kwa kgaolong ya botlhophi ya Tonota.

A ke one mafoko Modulasetilo a ke khubameng ke bua le Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona Kgafela gore a badimo ba Sekgatla ba mo etelele.

Badimo ba bo nkuku ba kwa ga Mosetlha, kwa ga Tladi ba mo etelele ampe a nte e re kamoso re re nnyaa o re ntile re le batho ba Tonota, o re thusitse gore madirelo a rona a eme a tsepame.

A Modimo Rara Modulasetilo fela jaaka gale a nne a go kueleletse mosi wa segoledimo go etelela Palamente eno.
Ke lebogetse nako e o neng o e mphile morena wa me.

MR REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): Mma ke go leboge Honourable Chair.

Kgang e ke neng ke re ke tle ke simolole ka yone ke go leboga Tona Rre Mmusi Kgafela gore a bo a re beile kopo ya gagwe pele fa Mr Chairperson.
Ke re e tle e re ka gore o re boleletse kwa a tswang teng ka madi a re neng re mo a abetse le gore a a kopang o ya go dira eng ka one, ke tle ke fetise dintlhanyana gore e tle e re fa a ntse a fatlhafatlha tsa 22-23 le tsone a tle a di tsibogele Mr Chairperson.

Kgang e ke neng ke batla gore Tona re tle re simolole fela ka yone ke ya gore kana o ngoka bagwebi go tla mo lefatsheng la Botswana.
Jaanong fa o ba ngoka ba tla mo lefatsheng la Botswana ba tla go dira dikgwebo mo e tshwanetse e re fa ba tsaya karolo mo itsholelong ya lefatshe la Botswana le ka mofuta ope fela, fa e kete o bona e le gore ministries tse dingwe ga di ba tseye tsia, o nne lefufa mo go feteletseng.

Ke bua jaana Tona ka gore fa e le gore o ka gakologelwa, re na le kompone e e bidiwang ya All Kasi e e apesang batho ba metshameko jalo ka go farologana ga bone.
Kana kompone e ya All Kasi fa o ka gakologelwa Tona, ke kompone e e tleng e re apese re ya kwa bo Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) jaaka ka 2012.

E ne e le yone e itshupang gore e gweba mo lefatsheng la Botswana, e seng mo re tlaabong re bonwa ka bo Nike le Puma.

Fela jalo le maabane Honourable Minister, re bone ka team ya rona ya Tokyo 2020 All Kasi e nna yone official sponsor sa Botswana Olympic team.

Bana ba gago ba feta ba dira ka bokgabane jo ba neng ba ka dira ka jone teng koo.
Kompone e, wena o netefatsa gore o batla gore dikgwebo tsa rona di dire ka botswerere jaaka bo Nike di apesa ba mafatshe a ba berekelang kwa go one.
Jaanong fa go diragala jaana Tona, mo go ngomolang pelo ke gore fa ke re o tshwanetse gore o nne lefufa mo dikomponeng tse o di netefatsang gore di tle go tlhamela Batswana ditiro, e bo e nne tsone that brand lefatshe le jaaka o itse gore ke wena o tshwereng letshwao la Brand Botswana, ke kgang e e leng gore ga e ka ke ya re bana ba rona fa ba ya go palama kwa podium ba bo ba sa palamente ka All Kasi jaanong ba bo ba palama ka Nike.
Ke tlhapa ya bofelo e e leng gore o tshwanetse gore ke o tswe bana ba phefo ka ditiragalo tse di diragatseng 15 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) tseo.

Jaanong fa ba tla mo Botswana, they are hosted by ke Tona le President, ba ya koo ba apesitswe All Kasi.
Jaanong gone golo mo Tona, ga go na ka fa e leng gore o ka promote lefatshe la Botswana ka teng ga ba ga supa gore o na le bokgoni jo bo ntseng jang mo lefatsheng la gago kwa Ministry wa Trade, ka gore batho ba e ka bong e leng gore jaanong o leka gore o market Botswana o ba dirisa e le ba Ministry wa Youth, fa ba tsena kwa ditšhabeng go lebega o ba tlhabisa ditlhong ka fa e leng gore o ithaopile ka bone o le Tona wa Tsa Papadi le Madirelo.

Ke sone se ke neng ke batla gore o se bone sone seo Tona.
Se sengwe se ke neng ke batla gore o tle o se tsibogele Tona ke kgang ya gore fa re tswelela jaana o ntse o tswelela o re o ngoka babeeletsi jalojalo… ministry wa gago, ke tlaa tsaya fela gore ke tlaa o tshwaraganya le wa Tourism mo go tse ke tsenang mo go tsone.

Honourable Minister, fa o gopola gore motho yo ba reng Ronaldo yo e leng motshameki wa kgwele ya dinao, balatedi ba gagwe mo Facebook ba 150 million.

Ke gore o gaisa clubs tsotlhe tse a di tshameketseng ka balatedi.
Fa o ka dira jaaka Zambia e ne ya dira ka monna yo ba reng Neymar, e ne ya mo tsaya e bo e mo tlisa mo Vic Falls.

Neymar fa a le mo Vic Falls a bo a tsaya dinepe fela a bo a post e le gore o pegilwe ke Goromente wa Zambia.

Go tsweng foo tourism sector ya Zambia ya gola ka dipalo, balatedi ba ga Neymar ba batla go bona kwa a neng a le teng.
Ke bua jaana ka mabaka a gore Tona fa o ka gopola ba Rwanda, ba reka teams tse ditona kwa ba bo ba re “Visit Rwanda.” Ke sone se o bonang jaanong balatedi ba teams tse ditona fa ba bona go ntse gotwe “Visit Rwanda” ba bona go patelesega gore ba ye go bona gore team ya rona ka gore e apere Rwanda gone kwa Rwanda go ntse jang.

To market lefatshe Tona o dirisa sport is cheaper than o bo o re o romela Reatile golo gongwe a ya go bua ka lefatshe la Botswana koo mme sport se le teng.
Gompieno re na le Marketing Managers ba ba ka sikarang brand e le bo Nigel Amos.

Ke gore fa o gopola Makwala fela gore o ne a kgona go kobakoba phefo a le nosi, golo mo has marketed lefatshe la Botswana mo go feteletseng.

Jaanong ga go na ope yo o sa itseng gore fa o re Botswana o bua ka mang.
Jaanong ke ne ke ka eletsa thata Tona gore re bone o ema ka dinao, o simolola o itse gore o ka brand lefatshe la Botswana ka sports e le bana ba ba leng mo gae le ba mafatshe a sele jaaka ke sa tswa go supa Ronaldo ka fa e leng gore o ka bona gore o ka… Ke gore fa gompieno o mo laletsa a bo a tla mo lefatsheng la Botswana, mme fa a tsena go bo go raya gore jaanong o post a le kwa a tlaabong a le teng, ke gore he has branded lefatshe la Botswana, he marketed the country mo go feteletseng gore ditšhabatšhaba di bone gore golo kwa Botswana kwa go na le dikgang tse di ntseng jang e le tsone tse o tlaabong e le gone jaaka o brand lefatshe la Botswana.
Jaanong ke sone se ke neng ke ka kopa gore a ko o bone gore jaanong o leke to diversify mo dikgannyeng tse tsa to market and brand Botswana Tona ka fa go ntseng ka teng.

Ke re fa ke feta foo Tona, kgang e nngwe e ke neng ke ka fetela mo go yone ke ya gore merogo e tswetswe mo lefatsheng la Botswana gore e se ka ya tsena ka borders.
Jaanong kgang e nna e e ntshwenyang e le mo go tsa kgwebo, batho ba e leng gore ke bo mmaditapole kana borraditapole ba ba rekisang merogo Tona, fa ke tla ka matshelonyana wa me ke bo ba reka merogo mo go nna a bo ba sala ba apeile chips, a bo e le gore jaanong batho ba gago ba a tla ba botsa gore le tsaya kae ditapole ka gore ditapole di tswaletswe, mme ba rekile mo go ramotshelonyana yo o ba rekiseditseng ene a fetile, re bo re charge motho yo o rekileng, re bo re mo gapela dithoto tsa gagwe jaaka ba bangwe kwa Molepolole ba ne ba nteleditse ba re ke yone kutlobotlhoko e e ba aparetseng mo motseng wa Molepolole.
Fa o latedisa kgang e o itse gore o ka e simolola kwa motseng ofe ka gore ke gone kwa e leng gore gompieno kutlobotlhoko e ntsi.

Jaanong motho yo o kobodikhutshwane fa a re o iteka ka sengwe le sengwe o kare the 12th Parliament e rometswe go tla go bifela motho yo gotweng ke mohumanegi mo lefatsheng la Botswana.

Ke gore 12th Parliament o kare e batla go ipona associating fela le bahumi.

Fa o se mohumi ke gore o tla o hutsitswe, o tla o aparetse khutso go tla mo lefatsheng la Botswana.
Ga go tshwane Dipalamente tse di kileng tsa feta mo lefatsheng la Botswana.

Jaanong e ke e e leng gore ba batla go ipona fela ba na le bahumi.

Fa o se mohumi ga ba go gadime ga ba go itse.

Mr Chairperson, fa ke tswelela Tona fa o tsaya mo kgannyeng e e tshwanang le ya CEDA, it approves dikopo tsa Batswana.

Go na le Batswana ba e leng gore CEDA e sale e ba approve ba kopa gore ba neelwe madi a gore ba leme merogo yone e e tswetsweng.
CEDA e feletse e ba itsitse gore ga e na madi after approving their applications.
Ga ke itse gore jaanong fa gompieno re tswetse merogo ka fa ba bangwe having applied and their applications approved, fa ba ntse ba letetse funding re bo re boa re ba kwalela gore, “rona ga re na madi a gore re ka le fund re le CEDA,” tota golo fa jaanong o kgona go bona gore mathata a a re aparetseng 16 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) a feta le yone thaba ya Senai tota.
Jaanong golo mo Tona ke kgang tse di batlang gore o di emele ka dinao o bone gore tharabololo e o tlang ka yone e tlaa nna ya sennelaruri, ga go batle temporary measures.

Go batla dilo tse e leng gore jaanong re nne resolute, re itse gore tota fa re tsaya tshwetsho ya gore re rarabolola mathata a lefatshe la Botswana re bua ka tlhoafalo and re nole tlhoa re tlhoafetse Tona.
Jaanong ke tsone dikgang tse ke neng ke batla gore e re fa o ntse o sekaseka dikgang tsa gago 2022/2023 national Budget ya ministry wa gago o bone gore o tla ka ditharabololo tse e leng tsa boammaaruri, ka gore ga re ka ke ra bereka go baya Batswana bobi matlhong.

Mo re go dirang Tona, ke gore re aga tšhakgalo e e feteletseng mo Batswaneng ba ba ratang kagiso.

Jaanong re ba tsobera ka sengwe le sengwe, gore e re kamoso ba bo ba le tala, ba sa laolesege.
Ke tsone dikgang tse ke neng ke batla gore o di itse fela gore, a ministry wa gago, maphata a a ka fa tlase ga gago a ee wa bone e nne ee, nnyaa wa bone e nne nnyaa.

Ga go tlhokafale gore jaanong e bo ba sotlaka ka maikutlo a Batswana ba ba mo kutlobotlhokong, mo tlaleng.

Ka tsamaiso fela Tona, Baebele fa o ka e bala o tlaa fitlhela e le gore tlala ka bo yone fela ga e na kagiso.
Le tlaa simolola le ntse le re Batswana ba gompieno ba ntse jang, o bo o itse gore ke ba ba tshwerweng ke tlala, and ba batla go bona se ba ka se jang.

Jaanong ga e ka ke ya re Batswana ba tshwerwe ke tlala re bo re simolola re tla ka programmes tse di ba tlaopang, di sotla ka maikutlo a bone, di gakatsa tlala e e leng mo go bone.
Re tshwanetse re itse gore Batswana ba tshwerwe ke tlala, ba lebile mo go rona gore re tle ka ditharabololo tse e leng gore diyamaleng ba ka di bona jang, ba ka tshedisa dikokomana le bana ba bone ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Jaanong ke tsone dikgang tse ke neng ke batla go go di neela tse mo letsatsing la gompieno Tona.

Mme ke go reye ke re, Modimo o go segofatse rra, tsela ke eo, a go nne jalo.

Amen.
Amen.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR MOLEBATSI): Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker, ke a go dumedisa le bakaulengwe mo tshokologong eno.
Mr Speaker, mma e re kwa tshimologong fela ke go reye ke re ke ema Tona nokeng mo kopong ya madi a a kopang a. Ke simolole fela ke re, e re ke mo ema nokeng jaana gongwe ke bo ke batle gore a ye go lebelela dilo dingwe, a lebelele mo paragraph number three, ke ne ke bona a kwadile gore “leading imports commodities,” kana o raya tse di tsenang mo Botswana, a bo a kwala gore le diteemane di mo teng.

Ke tsaya gore diteemane ke tse di tswang.


Gape a bo a supa gore “exported commodities” a bo a tsenya dikoloi (vehicles) mo page two, gongwe a go sekaseke, a bone gore a mme go ne go kwadilwe sentle.

Fa e le gore go kwadilwe sentle le gone go ntse go a lebosega.

Mr Speaker, mma ke simolole ka gore lefatshe gore le kgone go bitsa babeeletsi gore itsholelo ya lone e tsamaye sentle, e akolwe ke bone beng ba mo gae, ke go dira melao e e lebaganeng.
Se se tona fela Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke Puso e e dirang melao fela jaaka Motlotlegi Mpho Balopi a sa tswa go bua gore, Puso e e tseneng ya ga Domkrag e rile e tlaa dira melao e sa oshaoshe, e tlhamaletse.

E tlaa dira molao e e leng gore ga e na go tlhabiwa ke ditlhong gore e tseye bold decisions go fetola melao e e ntseng e le teng gongwe e sa bereke, e tlhabolole melao e e leng teng gongwe e ntse e sa re ise gope.
Ke sone se re se bonang gompieno segolobogolo fa re bua ka go tlhabolola itsholelo, se se lebaganeng le Lephata la Peeletso Papadi le Madirelo, e bile e le bone that share…(inaudible)…of the economy and employment, ke sone se re se bonang.
Mma ke re ke simolole fela ka gore, ke itumela thata ka molao wa Economic Inclusion Act of 2021, gore ke sone tota se se supang sekai sa gore fa batho kana Puso e rile e tlhamaletse, e tsaya ditshwetso, e tsaya melao e jaanong e tlhabololang itsholelo, e ntsha batho lehumeng, e raya go moo.

Ke yone tshupo fela ya ntlha.

Jaanong ke kopa Tona…ka e bile o ne o fetile ka one o supa gore e tlaare ka April 2022, e bo e le gore molao o o mo tirisong, fa go ka nna jalo o tlaabo o berekile Mokgatla.
O tlaabo o berekile tota.

Batswana ba emetse molao o. Ke sone se re neng re se bua gore, fa molao o o ka diega, wa se ka wa tsena mo tirisong, e tlaabo e le gore tota ga re a direla Batswana sentle.

Jaaka Mapalamente a mangwe ba e tle ba bue, go na le ba ba bonang chance ka molao o santse o le kgakala, ba saena dikonteraka tse di telele, gore e tle e re fa molao o o tla ba bo ba saenne dikonteraka le ba ba fang ditirong tsa bo three to five years.
O bo o ka fitlhela e le gore jaanong kgabagare molao o wa gago o montle o, o re neng re o lwela mmogo o, o tlile to be implemented after three years, ka gore batho ba tlaabo ba setse ba tsene mo dikonterakeng.

Jaanong ke ne ke re o se lebelele thata seo.

Gapegape ke gatelele, ke rotloetse gore, kana what matters thata mo molaong o, ke the regulations.
Ke tsaya gore fela jaaka o supile gore e tlaa re ka April o bo o le mo tirisong, le tsamaile le maphata, re ile kwa lephateng 17 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) la ga Mma Kereng ra utlwa gore kwa Tourism gone ba batla go dira ka tsela e ntseng jang gore Batswana ba tle go thusiwa, gore molao o o ba thuse.

Regulations di batla stakeholder engagement se se tseneletseng kwa teng.
Ba construction; construction le gone le ile kwa go bone le tswa go ba utlwa.
Le ba agriculture kwa go rona, gore a lekile la tla kwa go rona la tla go utlwa gore mo horticulture sectors, ke fe sekai, mo value chains molao o tsamaelana jang le rona ka kwano le tse re di dirang, gore Batswana ba tle ba kgone go akola meamuso ya lefatshe la bone.Fela jalo, le yone Public Procurement Act o o neng o ntsha Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (PPADB) Act, le gone le tshwanetse gore le netefatse gore go a nyalana, ka gore melao e tota e tshwana fela.
Fa e ka se ke e nyalane go ka se ke go bo go nne sentle, go tlile go re busetsa kwa morago.

O itse gore re ka dira dilo tse di ntle, ra akanya bontle, ra dira jalo, mme implementation kwa maphateng e bo e le gore e bolaya bontle jo.

One; jaanong ke re re gakolole gore a implementation e se ka ya diega.

Two; a re netefatseng gore implementation e e diragala sentle, fela jaaka Batswana ba solofetse.
Ka gore go tlaa diragala se Motlotlegi Reatile a se buang, gore e tla nna e kete re baya bobi mo diphatleng tsa batho, gore se re se buang ga se diragale jalo.
Fela jalo le molao kana growing the middle class strategy, gone fela ga gore re tlwaetse ba ba berekang, ba santse ba le mo dingwageng di le kana ka ka tsa rona le Motlotlegi Molao, ba bone gore fa tshono e nna teng ya gore re tlogele ditiro re ye go dira dikgwebo, re hire ba bangwe, segolobogolo banana, go diragale jalo, re dire an environment ya go nna jalo.
E bile re ba thuse, a ke ka madi kana market, mme go nne fela jalo Ke re Tona, ka le gone o buile ka gone mo mafokong a gago a, le gone implementation ya teng a e nne e e bofefo, e e dirwang ka matsetseleko.

Tsone tse di ka dira gore lefatshe la rona le fetoge ka ponyo ya leitlho.

Small Medium and Micro Enterprises (SMME) developments re bua gore, kana molao o wa Economic Inclusion o o bua fela ka gore re ya go thusa Batswana gore ba dire dikgwebo, ba tswe mo lehumeng.
Ke sone se ke buang ka gore, go nyalane, lephata le la gago ke mmaarona, o nyalane le maphata a mangwe, horticulture, mo re tsweletseng melelwane jaana, o tshwanetse go okomela gore a mme gone re go dirile sentle, a re tsamaya sentle.

Ba ba kwa mining le bone jaaka bo Debswana ba na le Debswana Citizen Economic Empowerment Policy (CEEP) or programme ya bone e ba reng ba tlaa ntsha P20 billion, ba reka mo Batswaneng, le gone o okomele gore e tsamaye sentle.
E se ka ya nna Debswana fela, re rotloetse ba bangwe ba ba ingwabaileng, ba re sa utlweng ba bua sepe ba meepo e mengwe ka meepo e mentsintsi, ba didimetse.

Le bone ba rotloediwe gore re utlwe gore bone ba tsenya bokae, ba tlhama ditiro tse di le kae.

Ke sone se re batlang gore re se bone.

Ke sone se ke reng, gape le yone supply development, ga gona mosola gore re dire dikompone, re dire sengwe le sengwe, mme re se ka ra thusa batho gore ba bone market.

Supply and development programmes di a tlhokafala.


Mma ke re, ga ke a bona thata o leboga ba United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) ba eme ka dinao, ba tabogile lefatshe le lotlhe.

Ba kwa merogong, meepong, mme ba thusa gore Batswana ba ba nang le dikompone jaaka Local Enterprise Authority (LEA) e dira enterprise development re aga dikompone, bone ba ba thusa go bona gore ba ka rekisa kae.
Ba dira tiro e ntle thata, ba a tokafala le bone fela jalojalo gore a dilo tse di nyalane ka Ministry wa Trade ke mmaarona.

Ke mmaarona wa itsholelo gore dilo tse re di sale morago, re bone gore di nyalana ka tsela e di ka thusang Batswana.

CEDA jaaka go ne go buiwa, go boammaaruri.

Le nna ke a tshwenyega ka CEDA fa ke leng teng fa gore dingongorego di dintsi ka yone mme ke dumela gore go tla a baakanngwa.
Re tshwanetse go e nnela fa fatshe, CEDA ba bangwe e ba kwalela gore a mme fa o tla o kopa madi kwa go nna, a o kile wa leka kwa commercial banks tse dingwe.

Golo mo gongwe re go lebelele gore ke eng e kete go na le bothanyana kwa CEDA.

A re fetoleng ka gore boammaaruri e rile CEDA e tlaa thusa Batswana, fa e tlhoka gore e thusiwe ke bo National Development Bank (NDB) le commercial banks, bo Botswana Savings Bank (BSB) ba teng ke ba ga Goromente le bone.
Gongwe tiro e nngwe kana madi a mangwe re a fetisetse gone koo.

Kana gongwe e tlhoka madi a mantsi go na le a e a filweng ka gore we were launching programme e tona, gongwe we launched without proper financing.

Re ne re re re lebe mongwame, selelo sa batho ba ba boang kwa CEDA se sentsi, se lelela kwa godimo thata gore le e lebelele.

LEA e botlhokwa ka gore e thusa Batswana ba le bantsi gore ba dire dikgwebo.
Kwa ga rona kwa Mmadinare e ne e ba thusa, ba dam tourism fa ba dira se ba neng ba se dira, e thusitse ba horticulture.

Re a e bona ka gore e na le motlhala mme le yone gongwe re e batlele madi go gaisa fa, let it be capacitated gore e nne tona go feta fa e leng teng fa.
Fa re kopantse LEA, CEDA, supply development programmes tsa bo UNDP, re ka isa 18 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) itsholelo ya lefatshe la rona golo gongwe.
Batswana ba ka ja meamuso ya lefatshe la bone, ra tswa mo goreng lefatshe la rona le se ka la nna le dipharologano tsa bahumi le bahumanegi mo re go bonang gompieno e le gore o kare bahumi ba ba leng teng ba humela pele mme bahumanegi ba salela kwa morago.

Re ipusa ka makalana one a… MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Minister.

MR MOLEBATSI: …ke gone mo re ka kganelang gore go se ka ga tswelela.

Ke a leboga Modulasetilo.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Rakgare.

…Silence… MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Rakgare.


…Silence… MR CHAIRPERSON: He is not there.

Honourable Pule.

OF MINISTER LOCAL ASSISTANT GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR PULE): Ke a leboga Modulasetilo.

Ke a leboga mongwame gore o bo o ntetleletse le nna gore ke akgele mo pegong ya Morena wa me; Mmusi Kgafela, yo e leng Tona ya Trade.

Ke ne ke re pele fa ke simolola mongwame ke bue ka kgang ya gore tota kana se a se dirang gompieno, ga se a tswa mo ditshepisong kana tse re di tshepisitseng Batswana.
Fa o ka lebelela manifesto wa rona kwa Pages 16 and 17, o a supa gore tota re le phathi e e busang re na le tse re di tshepisitseng Batswana, tse re batlang go di dira.

Fa ke lebelela pego ya ga Tona Kgafela, e setse morago tsamaiso eo le fa tota tse dingwe re ise re di fitlhelele mme fela e mo go yone ya gore re batla go tlhabolola lefatshe le, re le ntshe fa le leng teng le ye kwa godingwana.

Ke ka moo ke tsholetsang letsogo mongwame Modulasetilo, ke eme nokeng Tshutiso e ya ga Tona ka botlalo.
Ke tsaya gore maikaelelo a rona re le phathi e e busang ke gore lefatshe le re le tsholeletse kwa go bidiwang gotwe ke high income status, re le ntshe fa le leng teng.

Gore re kgone ke gore Mr Chairperson, re bo re ka kgona gore re tlhabolole.

Ke adima mafoko a ga Rre Balopi kgantele, o ne a bua ka the SEZs, gore mafelo a re a lebang e le SEZs, we should make sure that re a atolosa mme re dira mo gotweng to develop infrastructure jaaka ditsela, metlakase.
E bile gompieno re a itumela ka gore Tona wa tsa Maranyane o a tlhalosa gore o gatetse pele ka dikgang tsa solar systems, tse ke tsayang gore re ka di dirisa kwa masimong, batho ba ba lemang ba lemela kgwebo ba tsenye metlakase ya marang a letsatsi jalo le jalo.

Gape se sengwe se se tlhokafalang Tona ke gore re tshwanetse go tsholetsa production, bogolo jang ya vegetables, dijo tse di tshwanang le mabele, mmidi, mashi le tse dingwe tse di lebaganeng le manufacturing.
Fa o ka lebelela pego ya ga Tona Gare, e ne e supa gore re santse re saletse morago thata ka production ya mashi le dijo tse re di tlhokang.

We need to manufacture different goods and services jaaka gompieno re na le Leather Park e re neng re bua ka yone maloba.

We need to manufacture leather products, re itirele mashi a tota a bonalang gore re santse re le kwa morago thata ka one le by-products tsa teng.
Re rue dikgomo, dipodi le leruo lepe le le teng jaaka game gore re kgone go oketsa itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana.

Go a bonala gore Minister tota o tsamaela gone koo.

Gongwe se ke ka se buang ke gore ke mo rotloetse gore a bereke thata le ministries tse dingwe tse di amanang le ene jaaka tsa bo Trade jalo le jalo.

Ke na le gore ke ka ema nokeng Tona ka botlhokwa jwa gore a bo a dirile se a se dirileng gompieno sa gore go nne le restriction on importation of school uniforms le maize extruded snacks.
Dilo tse ke tsaya gore fa re nna le enough production ya mmidi, re ka kgona go itirela dilo tsa go nna jalo jaaka re na le cornflakes jalo le jalo.

Mo bogautshwaneng Modulasetilo, re ne re bona Lephata la Temothuo imposing restrictions on importation ya vegetables kana dijo tse di tswang mo mmung jaaka carrots, ditapole jalo le jalo.

Ke a itse gore go ne ga nna le modumo o montsi Modulasetilo, bangwe ba ngongorega ba tsaya gore gongwe ministry o ga o a dira sentle.
Nna ke nngwe ya Ditshutiso tse ke di ratileng thata ka gore fa o ka lebelela mafatshe ka bophara fa o dira research, ga gona lefatshe lepe in the whole world le e leng gore le kgonne go goroga mo self-sufficiency le sa dira jalo.

Of course there will be a negative reaction from the people, batlhophi ba bona gore o kare golo gongwe dilo ga di a tsamaya sentle.

Golo mo ke bona e le a very good initiative Modulasetilo, ya go leka go rotloetsa Batswana gore le bone ba itirele.
Mafatshe otlhe a a gorogileng fa jaaka bo Rwanda a go ntseng go buiwa ka one, a simolotse fela jaana by imposing restrictions.

Maikaelelo a matona e le go fokotsa mo gotweng ke import bill e gompieno e tsamayang ka madi fela a a kwa godimodimo.
A re itseng gore tota fela go bua nnete ga 19 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) go batle re le lefatshe re nna re beile fela mo mafatsheng a mangwe le ka dijo tota tse re ka di itirelang.

A mme re tshwanetse go baya mo mafatsheng a re bapileng le one?

What if nako nngwe dilo di ka se ka tsa tsamaya sentle gongwe, re bo re nna le dikgotlhakgotlhano le mafatshe ao?
Go raya gore fa ba tswala gates tsa bone ba sa re fe dijo, re tlaabo re bolawa ke tlala.

This is a very bold initiative e ke tlaa batlang batlotlegi mo Palamenteng gore ba e eme nokeng.

Thatathata Modulasetilo, mo bogautshwaneng ke ne ka rata thata tiro e e neng ya dirwa ke Motlotlegi Mmusi Kgafela when he launched initiative e e bidiwang gotwe ke #PushaBW.
This initiative is a very good one e ke e emang nokeng ka gore o ne a rotloetsa gore ba leke go bereka le producers tsa vegetables, kana businesses tse di farologaneng tsa Small Micro and Medium Enterprises (SMMEs) gore ba se ka ba lwela business le bone, instead ba ba thuse gore ba kgone to supply them.
Ke mo gotweng ke value chain e re ntseng re bua ka yone gore go tshwanetse go nne le batho ba ba dirang mashi, metsi, borotho mme retailers e bo e le gore se ba ka se dirang is to facilitate them gore gongwe ba ba thuse ka transport tsa refrigerated cars gore ba kgone go tsaya produce ya bone e tle kwa markets tse di leng mo Gaborone le mafelo mangwe a a tlhabologileng jaaka bo Mochudi jalojalo.

Ke ne ke rata gore thatathata ke itebaganye le constituency ya me.
Kwa constituency ya rona Tona, ke tlaa kopa gore o palele teng ka fa o ka kgonang ka teng ka e bile go gaufi le kwa o nnang teng.

Mochudi East jaaka ke tlhola ke bua, is a potential horticultural hub e re tshwanetseng go tsaya advantage ya yone and make sure gore re a e dirisa.

It is next to Gaborone; it is in a Special Economic Zone.
Jaanong e ne e le gore re dire mo go tweng re kgole maungo a a kwa tlase, low hanging fruits, ka gore Mochudi East is a longing fruit for trade in this country especially ya vegetables.
Kana fa re rialo, re tlaabo re kopa gore o re thuse Tona gore gongwe re bue le private sector through Public Private Partnership (PPP) gore ba re thuse to develop our infrastructure ka gore ga se issue ya production fela mo Mochudi East, after producing, we have to transport our products to the markets, mme kana re tlhokana le ditsela le metlakase.
Mo go raya gore Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry Ministry of Finance and Economic Development, le wa Agricultural Development and Food Security le e mengwe e e leng teng, ba re thuse gore re kgone gore re ka dira jalo, kana re nne le mo go tweng ke collection centres tse e leng gore re tlaa bo re harvest dilo tsa rona re bo re di baya kwa collection centres, di tla di tsewa ka dikoloi tse di sireletsegileng gore di goroge kwa markets di santse di le fresh.
Ke raya gore ke dingwe tsa dilo tse e leng gore nna Tona fa o bona ke go eme nokeng, ke itebagantse le tsone.

Re na le mebu e mentle thata go bapa le noka ya rona ya Notwane, Madikwe, le noka ya Limpopo.

Ga se gone fela, gompieno jaana re na le cluster e nngwe e ke tsayang gore Tona o a e itse, e bidiwa Matlhage, it is run by banna le basadi ba ba nonofileng, retired, ba ba botlhale, ba ba itseng gore ba tshwanetse go dira eng.

Mathata a bone a matonatona ke access to loans.


A ke tseye fela e le a pensioner who is over 60 years, gongwe is not credit worthy, mme a na le boitsaanape le metsi a gore a ka lema vegetables, ke ne ke re Tona, fa go ka kgonafala, bula dibuka tsa gago batho ba go nna jaana ba emiwe nokeng, ba kgone gore ba bone madi, ba dire dijo to supply market ka dijo fela tsa maemo a a rileng.
Ke ne ke sa batle go tsamaya lolololo Tona, tota ke go eme nokeng thata, mme e bile ke rata go bereka gaufi le wena thata gore nako le nako leitlho la gago o le lebise ka kwa, o ngoke bagwebi ba tle kwa Mochudi East ba tle go bona gore re na le eng.

Production of livestock ke nngwe ya potentials tsa rona, especially small stock, tse e leng gore banana ba rona ba ka ema ka dinao ba dira dilo tseo, jaanong mathata a rona ke access to credit, loans tse e leng gore re ka di dirisa to establish our businesses.
Jaaka Motlotlegi Balopi a ne a bua kgantele, a re fa gongwe madi fa o a neela motho, a felela fela mo overheads a bo a sa kgone to facilitate production ya gagwe.

Ga go nne sentle, go batla e re fa re neela motho madi, re mo thuse le gore a epe sediba, a se gokele, a reke dipeo, dipompo, le dilo tse di bolayang diji jalojalo, di mo kgontshe dilo tse dingwe, because ga a ka ke a dira business a bo a e tlogela e le fa gare.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Your time is up Honourable Minister.
MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente mo tshokologong eno.
Nte ke go leboge gore o bo o mphile tshono ya go bua mo thulaganyong e. Pele gape ke leboge le ene Tona Morena Mmusi, ke wa Mochudi, gore a bo a tlisitse pego e. Ke mo leboge thata gore se ke neng ke se utlwa le Batswana ba kwa Mahalapye ba mpolelela jalo, ke gore ba itumetse thata 20 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) ka madi a maP1,000.

Ke bua ka bagwebi ba ba botlana ba e leng gore ba mo mekgwatlheng.
Ba ne ba supa ka fa ba itumetseng thata ka teng ka madi a a neng lephata la gago le a afa Batswana ka nako ya COVID-19 mo ngwageng o o fetileng, le thusa dikgwebo tse di potlana.

Ba lebogile thata kwa Mahalapye.

Ke bona e le yone thulaganyo e e siameng ya gore re tsenye madi mo dipateng tsa Batswana ka nako e e leng gore go thata, jaaka go ne go le thata re tsenya madi mo dipateng tsa Batswana.
Ke a bona gore le ko CEDA, Botswana Development Corporation (BDC), LEA le kwa NDB go a supafala gore go na le madi mangwe a a fiwang e le go kolota, re e fa Batswana.

Loan book ya gago go lebega e le kwa godimo thata ka dikoloto tsa Batswana mo thulaganyong eo, o leka go thusa Batswana mo dikgwebong.

Jaanong seo ba Mahalapye ba ne ba se leboga thata.


Se sengwe rra, kana rona fa re bua ka kgwebo le lephata la gago, ke bua fa gangwe le gape gore kana lephata la gago rra, le beile batho ba Mahalapye le Mahalapye Sub-District ka fa mosing.

Batho botlhe kwa Mahalapye le Mahalapye Sub-District, go tswa fela gone mo Dibete, Mookane, Machaneng; the whole of Tswapong South and the whole of Shoshong Constituency go ya kwa Otse, Mokgenene, wa re ba emelele ba ye kwa Palapye go kopa diofisi tse.
Selo se se re beile ka fa mosing.

Ga re na ofisi ya CEDA, LEA, BDC, bo CIPA; lephata la gago ga le yo kwa Mahalapye.

Mahalapye o ema ka dinao, is ready for business but, ga go na ditlamelo tse di tshwanetseng di re fe business eo.

Ke ka go fa sekai fela, Mahalapye is ready for business, in 2012 fa ke simolola go emela ditlhopho, go ne go sena Mahalapye Cresta, the late GT Sesola Mall, go ne go sena malls e mengwe e re e bonang e ntse e runya mo Mahalapye.
So, selo se ke sekai sa go supa gore Mahalapye is ready for business, and it is in business as we speak.

Now we need ditlamelo tsa business tse di tlaa re dirang gore re kgone go dira kgwebo bonolo, re akole mo dithulaganyong tse di dirilweng ke Goromente jaaka CEDA le LEA jaana.
Selo se ke nna ke se tlisa e le ngongorego gore golo mo go a re babalela re le batho ba Mahalapye, ke sone se o bonang o kare re goga dinao, maoto a rona a tshupa to access loans tsone tse tsa CEDA mme ntswa e le ditlamelo tse di buletsweng Motswana mongwe le mongwe, rona ka fa go rona re di bona ka bothata, ka go gabalela.

Tona, a ko o lebelele kgang e, ga ke gane le a tle le re thuse ba CEDA ba tle kwa Mahalapye, ba nne mo tseleng foo, re ba lekolele mo tseleng.
Selo se se a re tshwenya, a ko o se lebe thata.

Se sengwe gape se se tshwenyang ka CEDA and the CEDA loans, go a bonala ka dipalo gore madi a le a neelang CEDA gore e a fetisetse kwa Batswaneng gore ba akole dikgwebo tsa bone, ba di godise, a ya kwa tlase ngwaga le ngwaga ka tsela e e gakgamatsang, mo e leng gore go raya gore Tona a tle a tlhalose kgang e ka botlalo gore rona fa re bua ka economic inclusion mo Palamenteng mo, ene o fokotsa madi a a yang kwa CEDA, gore se raya jang seemo se.
Se sengwe gape se ke se lebogelang ke gore, Tona a bo a bua ka dikoporase, e bile a bua gore o file madi, kana he facilitated dikoporase ka madi a a ka tshwarang around P50 million, ke re one a ga a a lekana.
Go a supafala Tona, ke setse ke kopane le batho ba ba tswang kwa lephateng la gago ba ntlhalosetsa, ka gore ke ne ke ntse ke bua thata ka Mahalapye Development Trust, ba ntlhalosetsa gore o bona koporase, e na le melawana e e tlhabolotsweng gona le melawana e e tsamaisang Development Trust jaaka e tlwaelesegile.

Dikoporase ke yone tsela e re ka e dirisang mo metseng e e tshwanang le Mahalapye go ema ka dinao.
A ko o lebe Mahalapye fa re ntse re bua ka dikgang tse tsa dikoporase le mafelo a mangwe a a kwa tennyanateng a e leng gore a tshwana le Mahalapye, gongwe e bile a le kwa tlase ga Mahalapye, gore a re ba thuse ba emeletse dikoporase, re bone batho ba thusega, ba bona sengwe mo go one madi a a P50 million kana le a a tlaa tlang a oketsega.

Jaaka go buiwa, melawana e ya dikoporase, e botoka, e dira gore tiro e nne botoka fela thata.

Ke a go leboga ka seo Tona.


Ke ya kwa bokhutlong, ke batla go boela kwa kgannyeng e ke ntseng ke e bua mo bekeng e e fetileng, e e buang ka kgwebo, le trade diplomacy as they put it in the international world.

Gore kana dilo tse, re le lefatshe la Botswana, ke ne ke ntse ke gakolola mo nakong e e fetileng gore re tshwanetse re ele dilo tlhoko, and take our calculated risk and analysis fa re tla mo ditshwetsong tse re di tsayang tse di amang mafatshe a mangwe, bogolo jang fa re gwebisana le bone.
Go botlhokwa gore re nne tactful.

Honourable Minister, you cannot just be playing, be tactical when we deal with dikgang tse.

For example, fa e ne e le gore you restricted, ga ke gane gore you should restrict jaaka ke ne ke bua gore ke mongwe wa batho ba ba eletsang gore Botswana e eme ka dinao e itirele dijo le sengwe le sengwe.
Le gompieno jaana if you have restricted 60 per cent or 40 per cent of the importation ya those vegetable, it would have made a difference other than to say 100 21 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) per cent ban.

Re lebelele dilo tse gore we have to be tactical when we deal with the international community, re itse gore ga bose gangwe, kamoso e tlaabo e le rona jaanong re le mo dikgannyeng tse.
Tsa metsi; gore metsi go bo gotwe re order metsi kwa ntle, metsi ga se mathata a a kalokalo ka gore ga re leme metsi.

Metsi o a tsaya, o bo o a tsenya mo machine, a bo a tswa ka reverse osmosis, o bo o a tsenya mo mabotleleng o a rekisa.

Jaanong fa o bua ka go lema, kana production e e tlaabong e le teng, e engage dipeo kana raw materials that you might not have, and then it is an issue.

You have to cooperate with the people that are giving you.

For example, uniforms, re emisitse uniforms.


Maloba ke ne ke reeditse ba Textile Industry, ba bua gore ke mogopolo o montle, mathata ke gore Goromente ga a re bolelela ka nako.

Ke boammaaruri, mme ke mogopolo o montle thata, but fa o dira jalo, go na le kgonagalo ya gore fela jaaka mo dipeong, ba kgona go emisa matsela, gakere ga o tle ka matsela, ga o rekise matsela, ga re dire matsela mo lefatsheng la Botswana.
So dilo tse re nne re di ela tlhoko, gongwe re re we are banning 40 per cent of importation ya dilo tse to build rona mo kgaolong, go fitlhelela our suppliers ba bo ba felela ba gakgamala fela gore ooh!

batho ba ga ba sa tlhola ba tsaya kwa go rona.

Motho yo o nang le keletso ya go dira jalo Mr Chairperson, ya to achieve dilo tse, ga a di bue mo paananeng, a di beile mo seatleng gore mongwe le mongwe a bone, le wa mafatshe a sele.
Ga se gore ba re rata botlhe, ka jalo, re tshwanetse go dira dilo tse, re didimetse, re tsamaya ka bonya fela go fitlhelela ba ba gaisanang le rona ba gakgamala gore ao!

Botswana e bile e a ijesa jaanong.

Ke gone re ka kgonang ka teng.

Ga re di bue jalo, re tsamaya re di beile jalo ka gore ba tlaa re sokela dirope jaaka re bua.

Le yone e ya health, ke ne ke bua thata maloba gore kana botsogo ga bo a tshwanela go dirisiwa to restrict people to a point e jaanong sengwe le sengwe se emang.
Jaanong moo e tlaabo e se botsogo.

Botsogo is considerate ka dinako tsotlhe, botsogo ke selo se se buisanwang, ke selo se re se dumalanang gore re dira jang jaanong fa go ntse jaana.

Fa o bona o tsaya dilo tsa teng o le nosi fela o bo o re nnyaa, jaanong I am doing this ka botsogo, a-e, ga se tsela e botsogo bo tsamaisiwang ka yone.
Jaanong batho ba a ngongorega ka gore go a tura kwa melelwaneng, gore o tlole ka maduo a COVID-19, fa o tsaya malatsinyana ka gore golo kwa go a folwa, fa o ile go tsaya digoruntu, go tsaya malatsinyana a mabedi kana a mararo, ga re o duele o mongwe gape P500, o shafatse maduo a gago a COVID-19, dilo tse a re di lebeleleng.
Go kganela batho ba ba lekang go feta ka lefatshe la Botswana, ba fetela kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, go na le gore re ungwe mo go bone, jaanong re a ba koba, selo seo ga se ka ke sa siamela lefatshe la Botswana.

Ka jalo, re tshwanetse re batle tsela nngwe ya gore re buisane, re dumalane fa gare fa re ka bonang gore e ka nna a win- win situation.

Jaaka re bua jaana, diteraka ga di fete mo Botswana, jaanong selo se se a tshwenya ka gore you will see it on the revenue collection ya BURS.
Mo ngwageng o o tlang, re tlaabo re e review gone fa re re nnyaa, look at the impact of the restrictions we created.

Jaanong fa gongwe re se ka ra itshopha ka megala jalo Mr Chairperson, fa re deal le dikgang tsa mafatshe a sele, re nne re neneketse.
E bile segolobogolo, mohumi ga a ipoke, ga a bope, re tshwanetse re dire dilo re didimetse, re bonwe ka maduo a rona mo lefatsheng ka bophara gore nnyaa, batho ba ba ntse ba bereka ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, ‘moepa sediba ga a bonwe.’ Ka jalo, a re epeng sediba se, e tlaare fa re se epile, batho ba tlaa bona ka go nwa metsi.

Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson.

“EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” MR CHAIRPERSON (MR MOATLHODI): Thank you Honourable Tshere, Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Mahalapye Bophirima.
We have three minutes left, whereby the Honourable Minister has to be called upon to respond.

Honourable Member for Ghanzi North, are you in a position to utilise the three minutes that are left?

Honourable Thiite, there is three minutes left for you, if he is not available, then I shall call... HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ne a tsholeditse.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Sorry!

I was calling upon Honourable Thiite whether he can utilise the three remaining minutes.
Then I am going to call upon the Honourable Minister to respond.

The Honourable Minister responsible for trade, please respond to the debate.

MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR KGAFELA): Modulasetilo, ke go leboge.

Ke bo ke leboge le batlotlegi botlhe ba ba nkgwileng dikgaba, mme ke ba utlwile, ke ne ke ba file tsebe sekono.
Bontsi jwa bone kgotsa nte ke re botlhe, ba eme nokeng kopo ya madi e re e beileng pele Ntlo e. 22 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Bontsi jwa bone ba ne ba supa dikgakololo tsa gore ba godise Lephata le la Peeletso, Papadi le Madirelo gore le tle Batswana ba kotule mo go lone go feta ka mo ba santseng ba kotula ka gone.
Go buile Motlotlegi Rre Buti Billy, mme a bua ka the ease of doing business, a bua ka botlhokwa jwa tsa licences e re fa di abiwa, go lekiwe ka bojotlhe gore e nne selo sa ponyo ya leitlho.

A bo a baya dikai gore kwa mafatsheng a mangwe bo Dubai, go a tle go tsewe dioura di le tlhano, kwa Rwanda, dioura di le supa, mme rona re tsaya dioura di le masome a mabedi le bone kgotsa letsatsi fela le le tletseng.
Nnyaa re a leka rraetsho, gore le rona selo se sa gore e re fa o goroga, a bo e le gore o le mogwebi, an investor, kgotsa o le mogwebi wa mo gae, o sa tswe kwa ntle, o tlhokana le gore o thusiwe ka diteseletso tsa go go letla gore o gwebe, a bo e le gore re eme ka dinao, o bone diteseletso tseo ka bofefo jwa ponyo ya leitlho.
O ne a bua gape le ka botlhokwa jwa... ke amogela kgakololo e ya infrastructure, e botlhokwa, gore e re fa go buiwa ka dikgwebo, a bo e le gore infrastructure e e tshegetsang bogwebi e teng, e e tshwanang le ditsela.

Lefatshe; mongwe wa batlotlegi o ne a bua le ka lefatshe, kgopo ya metsi a a leswe, go dirisiwa kgotsa go nneng teng ga metsi a a nowang, tiriso ya motlakase jalojalo, ke dilo tsotlhe tse ke dumalanang nae.

Ke amogele gore Lephata la Peeletso, Papadi le Madirelo, le amana le maphata a otlhe.
Gongwe le gongwe go na le bogwebi; a o kwa go tsa temothuo, botsogo, kgotsa kwa lefatsheng, tse di amanang le kabo ya lefatshe, kgwebo e teng gongwe le gongwe.

Ke amogela gore lephata la me le na le maikarabelo a gore le dirisanye le one otlhe, gore kwa pheletsong, ka we are one Government, re felele re le mo seemong sa gore e re fa re bua ka go atolosa bogwebi, a bo e le selo se se bonwang ka matlho, ga se selo sa molomo fela.
O buile thata gape gore kana re lebile thata kwa Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), mme re se ka ra leba fela koo, re lebe le local domestic investment.

Ke boammaaruri, re rotloetsa investment from all corners, either go tsweng kwa ntle, le bagwebi ba benggae, le bone re ba emetse ka dinao, re a ba rotloetsa.
Le one mmaraka wa Southern African Development Community (SADC), re tsholeditse matlho a rona, re thubile lebelo la gore re o fitlhelele, Batswana ba kgone gore le bone ba utlwe kgotsa ba ungwelwe ke gore ba kgone gore ba fitlhelele mmaraka wa SADC.

Ke utlwa sentlesentle, motlotlegi o ne a lebogela tiro ya CEDA le mananeo a a welang ka fa tlase ga CEDA a a tshwanang le bo Letlhabile, le dithuso tse nne mananeo a a di neela Batswana, segolo jang ka nako ya fa re gateletswe ke leroborobo le la COVID-19.
O buile gape ka value chains, gore re di tlhome leitlho, re tlhomamise gore, e re fa re bua gore Batswana ba tsenye lebogo in value chains tsa dikgwebo dipe tse di tlang mo gaetsho, a bo e le gore ga se puo ya molomo, ke selo se re se bonang ka matlho.

Ke leboge motlotlegi.

Rre Letsholo o buile, le ene ke a mo leboga go menagane gantsi.

O supile lesokolela la gore mo go se sebaka, balance of trade e bo e santse e se yone sentlentle.
Madi a re a dirisang go reka tse di kwa ntle, a santse a ntse a feta tse re di rekisang kwa ntle.

E rile fela fa mmuso o simologa, o sena go nna o tlhongwa morago ya ditlhopho, ke nngwe ya dilo tse di neng di supagala gore di a re tshwenya rotlhe ka kakaretso, mme ra bua ka tsone gore re tshwanetse ra fetola seemo se.

Re thubile lebelo ka thuso ya batlotlegi gammogo le Batswana ka kakaretso, la go tlhomamisa gore this imbalance e e teng re a e fokotsa.
Ga re solofetse gore mo nakong e khutshwanyane re tlaabo re setse re e phimotse completely, mme se tota re se dirang ke go e fokotsa.

Keletso ke gore re felele re e phimotse completely, the trite should then be reversed.

O ne a bua ka Francistown gore gongwe e sekasekwe, packages tse di diretsweng SPEDU, gongwe ka tsela nngwe ka mabaka a gore meepo e e bapileng kwa, e ne ya tswalwa, Francistown le ene a sekasekiwe, a direlwe package e e ka tshwanang le ya SPEDU.
Ke a mo utlwa, mme kana SPEDU e ne e le a special case, e e neng ya tsibogelwa tebang le leru le e neng e le gore le wela kgaolo ele ya SPEDU.

Ke a mo utlwa, ke dilo tse re tlaa di emelang ka dinao, re di sekeseke, mme e re fa a baya kopo e, a bo e le gore o e baya a ntse a itse gore SPEDU was a special case e e neng e na le dikgwetlho tsa yone tse di neng di le unique to it.
The State-Owned Enterprises (SOEs); Mma Serame o thubile lebelo kwa lephateng la gagwe go tlhomamisa gore they are rationalised, tse gongwe di dirang tiro e le nngwe go sa tlhokafale, e bo ka tsela nngwe di kopanngwa, e nna selo se le sengwe.

O ka itemogela gore enterprises tse tsa Puso le makalana a e leng gore are statutorily established, ba imela pata ya Puso go menagane gantsintsi, ka mabaka a gore kana subventions di a ntshiwa kgapetsakgapetsa gore ba tshegediwe.
O thubile lebelo la go baakanya seo, ke solofela gore mo nakong e e sa fediseng pelo, re tlaabo re simolola re neela batlotlegi maduo a tiro eo.

23 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Motlotlegi o ne a bua gape a supa lesokolela la gore kana CEDA e tsaya subvention, mme e ne e beetswe dingwaga di le lesome gore e bo e ikemetse ka nosi.
Re tla re dumalana le motlotlegi ka tse a di buang, e tsene mo sekgweng fa a tsena teng foo, re tla tlhoka tumalano.

Ke amogela mafoko a gagwe, mafoko a kgotla a mantle otlhe.

Mmualebe…(Interruptions)… Fa ke lebile dipampiri tse di bopang CEDA, constitutive documents, fa ke phuruphutsha ga ke a ka ka bona gope fa go fileng kgotsa go laetseng CEDA gore mo dingwageng di le lesome e bo jaanong e ikemetse ka nosi.
Re tshwanetse ra lebelela gore kana CEDA ke kompone ya Puso, e e thusang ba ba fatlhogang ba leka go ema ka dinao kgotsa start-ups.

Ee, fale le fale e atle e thuse ba ba setseng ba ntse ba itshetletse, mme bontsi jwa tiro ya yone e thusa ba e leng start-ups batlotlegi.

Jaanong fa e ba thusa jaana, it does not operate jaaka dibanka tse tiro ya tsone fa godimo ga go thusa batho, e leng go itirela letseno.

Yone is non-profit making.


Ka jalo o fitlhela le fa e adimile batho madi, morokotso is almost non-existent.

Le sebaka se Motswana a se fiwang gore a bo a setse a e duetse, o fitlhele se lelefaditswe gore a se ka a tla a imelwa ke dituelo tse di mo lebaganeng.

Le botlhokwa jwa security o fitlhele bo se kalokalo, jaaka o ka bo fitlhela kwa dibankeng tse di ikemetseng ka nosi.

Jaanong e re fa re ntse re bua ka CEDA, se re se ele tlhoko, re se ka ra solofela gore e ikemele ka bonosi, e sa thuswe ke Puso.
Fela ke lebogela gore ke nngwe ya makalana a a tshwereng ka natla, e a itshegetsa.

Mo dingwageng tse supa tse di fetileng, ga e ise e itshegetse ka botlalo, but partial sustenance re ne re e iponela.

Re nnile le mathata ka nako ya COVID-19 fa e sena go simolola e tsena ka diphaposi tsa rona.

Le tlaa gakologelwa batlotlegi gore, go ne ga tsenngwa mo tirisong payments holiday, Batswana ba emisiwa gore ba se ka ba duela CEDA gotwe ba name ba bobile, ka gore go bokete.
Re tshwanetse re solofele gore fa re tsenya CEDA ka fa tlase ga seemo seo, bontlha bongwe jwa itshegetso ya yone ke gore e bo e kgona go re ba e ba admileng madi, jaanong e atolose lebogo e ba kope gore ba buse madi ao, ka ga gona madi a a fiwang tsaya tanki, a a busiwa.

Jaanong e bo e tsena mo seemong sa gore mabogo a yone a bo a bofiwa, ga e kgone go e atolosa lebogo.
E bo e sa tlhole e amogela letseno le e ntseng e le bona gammogo le gore ba ba supagalang ba sa diragatse ditumalano tsa madi a Puso, kana e na le kgwetlho ya gore e ba tseye e ba ise kwa makgotlatshekelong kwa dikgang di kgaoganngwang teng.

E bo e nna mo seemong sa gore, ga e kgone le go ba isa le gone koo.

Se se ne sa re bakela mathata, mme ke solofetse batlotlegi gore CEDA ga e a phutlhama, e ntse e eme ka dinao.
Batlotlegi ba ne ba supile gore re e timile madi, ke re bagaetsho ga re a e tima madi, parastatals tsotlhe di ne tsa bona phokoletso ya madi a di neng di a fiwa.

Selelo se ke se utlwang ka batlotlegi bangwe bo Rre Molebatsi sa gore, ka se sebaka ka e timilwe madi jaanong e tla nna e busa batho e sa atle dikopo tsa bone tsa madi, bangwe e ba romela kwa dibankeng tse di commercial.
Ke re ntlhana e ya commercial banks ya gore e atle e reye batho e re a le kile la kgabola pele kwa bankeng, ke ntlhana e e ntseng e le dintlhakgolo tsa tsamaiso ya CEDA.

Fa ke phuruphutsha ke lemoga gore, ke gone go simololwang to enforce this provision ya gore e re fa batho ba adima kwa bankeng, go bo go lejwalejwa gore fa o ikgona o kgona to access commercial bank facility, sutela Batswana ba ba sa kgoneng kwa CEDA.
Wena o ye koo, ka gore joko e ya tshegetso ya itsholelo ya Botswana re e tshwaraganetse rotlhe, ga e a tshegetswa ke Puso e le nosi, e tshegeditswe ke Puso le Batswana ka bo bone.

Jaanong go botlhokwa gore e re ba ba nang le dipata tse di sa phunyegang, ba kgone gore e re fa ba bua le commercial banks ba dumalane, a ba ye koo gore sekotlele se sa CEDA, se tle se kgone go thusa ba le bantsi go feta ka tsela e se ba thusang ka se sebaka.
Motlotlegi o ne a bua ka tlhamo ya mebereko, ke dumalana le ene ka botlalo.

Ga gona yo o ka ganetsanang le ope gore tlhamo ya mebereko ke nngwe ya ditiro tse re di setseng morago, segolo jang re lebile botlhoka tiro jo bo re apesitseng kobo ka letshoba.

Motlotlegi o ne a botsa gore, ga a tlhomamise gore tlhamo ya mebereko e emetswe ke lekalana lefe kgotsa e emetswe ke lephata lefe.

Tlhamo ya mebereko ke ya rona rotlhe.


Makalana a otlhe a Puso le batho ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi ba ba seng mo Pusong, le bone ba na le kgwetlho ya gore ya gore ba tlhame mebereko, e se kgwetlho ya Puso e le nosi.

Ke a dumalana gore Lephata le la gaetsho la Peeletso, Papadi le Madirelo, le tshwanetse la etelela pele tiro e la tlhomamisa gore e a diragadiwa.
Manufacturing industry; o buile gore go kile ga nna le manufacturing giants mo Botswana tsa phutlhama, phefo e e tseneng gareng ga tsone le Batswana e nnile eng, gore ba felele ba phutlhame.

Ga go amogelesege, le nna le dumalana le ene gore e re fa go na le megobagoba ya dikgwebo e bo go tsena sengwe gareng ga rona le bone, kgotsa ditsamaiso di bo di ba ba ka gore ba felele ba tsamaile.
24 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Bottle stores, wholesalers, vertical integration, mo mogwebi a di tsayang tsotlhe, a ke morekisi wa wholesale, retail, molemi, mokgweetsi wa tse di pegang tse a di lemileng, a le mo gotlhe mo, ke selo se re se amogelang gore ga se a nna sentle, ga se a re siamela re le Batswana.

Ke dilo tse re a di atlaatlang le Competition and Consumer Authority, gore re di fedise.
Dipuisanyo di nne teng, tsa gore ba nne ba sekaseka dilo tse.

Re a ba roma gangwe le gape, fa go runyang teng re utlwa gore seemo seo o kare se a tlhagelela, go tlaa dika go ntse le a situation of dominance re bo re se emela ka dinao.

Motlotlegi Rre Nkawana le ene ke lebogela mafoko a gagwe, o buile ka botswerere a supa tse a neng a gakolola ka tsone.
O ne a bua dilo dingwe tse di fatlhang tsa Botswana Development Corporation (BDC) gore e dikile e agile lodges ka madi a a kwa tlase, ya di rekisa ka madi a a tsitsibanyang mmele.

Ke boammaaruri gore BDC e na le seabe of course.

Nngwe ya dilo tse e leng gore it concerns itself with ke divestment.

Ke nngwe ya dilo tse e di dirang e le lekalana la Puso.
E tsaya ditshono tsa to invest, mme maikaelelo e le gore go yeng pele fa nako e ntse e ya, e bo e divest these investments fa di sena to mature e di tsenya mo diatleng tsa private sector.

Jaanong e dira jalo gangwe le gape, ga se tlholontšha.

Ga se selo se se tshwanetseng go supiwa e le sefatlhi.

Lodges tse motlotlegi a buileng ka tsone, kwa pheletsong di ne tsa felela di bonala e le gore they are non-strategic for maintenance under BDC.

Tsa felela di tsenngwa mo diatleng tsa Batswana.


MR MOSWAANE: Clarification.

Thank you so much Honourable Minister.

Ke kopa clarification ka mabaka a gore Tona, e re le mororo CEDA e tshwere, e le lephata le ke le ratang thata ka fa le ntseng ka teng, ke na le sengwe se ke akanyang gore o se lebe.

Gantsi go na le batho ba ba nang le ditlhaloganyo tse di supang ba le botlhale, ba nonofile mme e re fa loan ya CEDA e nna approved, go bo go nna le condition ya gore a ntshe contribution.
Failure gore motho yo o ka ntsha contribution, a bo a feleletsa a sa bona thuso ya madi a CEDA.

A o e bona e le maleba ntlha e ka gore gantsi o tlaa fitlhela contribution e le a smaller amount?

Fa e le Motswana yo o ordinary a nnile le kgatlhego ya go ka dira business plan e bo e nna successful, o fitlhela go le thata gore a ka bona madi a contribution.

Ke ne ke re a ga o ka ke wa akanya botoka ka yone Tona?
E nngwe e ke neng ke re o e sekaseke, ke gore mo bagwebing ba gotweng informal sector le kile la thusa ka maP1000 mme la nyelelela ruri fela, dikgwebo tsa Batswana di phutlhame.

Batho ba ba mo mekgwatheng, a ga go na thulaganyo e o ka ba gopolang ka yone ka tsela ya dikadimo ya madi a a kwa tlase?

Ke utlwa e kete gompieno fa batho ba batla madi a a kwa tlase le bua ka Mabogo Dinku mme ba sa rate go kopanela.
A Letlhabile yo, o ka se ka wa mo tlhabolola ya nna dikadimo tsa madi a a kwa tlase go ya go ileng go sa batliwa condition ya gore business e kile ya operate before COVID?

Thank you Honourable Minister.

MR KGAFELA: Ke go utlwile motlotlegi.

Ke tlaa di sekaseka le ba re ba romileng kwa CEDA.

Kgang e ya contribution, ke tlaa tshwanelwa ke gore re e nnele fatshe re tle re e sekaseke.

Grants tsele tsa maP1000, e ne e le nako ya segajaja sa COVID-19 mme e ne e se selo sa sennelaruri.
Go ne ga thusiwa fa go thusitsweng teng go bo go feta, mme ke a go utlwa, ga re nke re gana sengwe le sengwe.

Ke selo se ke tlaa se sekasekang le bogakolodi.

Ba tlaa gakolola gore it is feasible or not.

If it is not feasible Honourable Member, obviously ga re ka ke ra tswelela pele re tsaya dithoto tsa Batswana, e bo e le gore we invest into dilo tse re di gamelang mo mokgokoloseng, mme ke go utlwile.
SPEDU; bagaetsho, Rre Nkawana o buile gore re tshwanetse go tlhomamisa gore go na le bomaitseanape or it should be properly resourced.

Ke dumalana gore gongwe le gongwe fa e le gore o a hira kgotsa o tlhoma sekara sa mogoma, o eletsa to achieve a particular objective, o tshwanetse batho ba o ba romang, b abo ba iteilwe lebogo, ba na le boitseanape le leitlho le le bogale la go tlhomamisa gore se o se dirang se tswelela pele.

Motlotlegi Mpho Balopi o buile, ke dumalana le ene ka botlalo.
O ne a gakolola gore a re direng dilo ka tsela e e farologanyeng.

Re itemogetse gore fa re ka tswelela pele re dira dilo ka tse di neng di dirwa pele, re ya go dika re ntse re wela mo motlhobodikeng.

Re tshwanetse go dira dilo ka tsela e e farologanyeng.

Re dire go le gontsi ka go le go nnye mo go mo diatleng tsa rona.
Ke dumalana le ene mme le ene ke tlaa kopa gore, batlotlegi, le se ka la nna le tshaba go nna le kokota mo diofising tsa rona le tla ka megopolo go gakolola gore ke dumela gore ke le motlotlegi, re ka tokafatsa neelo ya ditirelo tsa rona ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Mma ke fofe le tse dingwe bagaetsho, nako ya me jaanong e simolotse go utlwa botlhoko.

Motlotlegi Pono Moatlhodi o buile ka dikompone tsa Nortex gammogo le Redos.

Nortex ke a itse ka yone, ke amogetse kopo ya bone mme ke a e sekaseka.
Dilo di dirwa le ntse le lebeletse gore a le gata sentle ka fa molaong.

Ba kopa lefatshe.

Botswana Telecommunications Corporation (BTC) e na le lefatshe leo, re santse re sugasugana.

Ga 25 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) ke ka ke ka pateletsa BTC, ke tshwanetse ka dirisanya le Tona yo e welang ka fa tlase ga gagwe, ra bona gore our competing interests re kgona to reconcile them.
Ke boammaaruri Nortex e teng, mme e ntse e gomagometsa gore fa e ka se ke ya thusiwa, e tlaa phutha e bo e tswa e tsamaya.

Ga re eletse gore batho fa ba tlile kwano, e bo e le gore ba a phutha ba a tswa ba a tsamaya.

Re a buisana Motlotlegi Rre Moatlhodi, le bone ba tlaa go rurifaletsa gore ke selo ke se amogetseng, ke se emetse ka dinao.

Redos kwa Tonota; ga ke itse sentle ka yone.

Ke utlwa gotwe it is operating.

Ga ke itse; ke ne ke utlwa motlotlegi a re ba feletse ba tswetse.
Ga ke ka ke ka go ganetsa mme fa ke utlwa dipego mo go ba ba ntshegeditseng, e ne e le gore e santse e tsweletse pele.

Motlotlegi Rre Reatile le ene o ne a nkatla, a nkema nokeng ka kopo e ya madi.

A supa gore a re nne mabife in favour of dikompone tsa rona segolo jang that advertise sporting activities.

Ke dumalana le ene gore fa e le gore re thapile monggae gore ke ambassador ya rona ya a sporting activity, e re fa re tsena kwa mafatshefatsheng a tswelele pele e ntse e le ambassador.
A se ka ya re fa a tsena, e bo e le gore o ntshiwa mo seraleng go pegwa ba dikompone tse di tona.

Le fa ke sa itse gore go diragetse jalo leng.

Fa e le gore go diragetse, ke tlaabo ke le maswabi thata.

Mabaka a gore re bo re ntse re kopana jaana, ke go amogana megopolo gore go le gantsi go e tle go tsewe bommampodi ba mafatshefatshe ba dirisiwe, e le tsela ya go bapatsa lefatshe.
Mabaka e le gore sefatlhego sa gagwe se bo se phatshimile mo lefatsheng lengwe, balatedi ba gagwe ka didikadike tsa bone e bo e le gore ba kgatlhegela lefatshe leo.

Ba simolola go le phuruphutsha go itse gore gatwe go eng koo.

MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR RAKGARE): Elucidation.

Thank you very much Honourable Kgafela.

Ke tlaa mokhutshwane fela thata.


Kgang e e neng e buiwa ke Motlotlegi Reatile, re rotloetsa dikompone tsa Batswana gore ba ikamanye le ditlhopha tsa rona tsa setšhaba gammogo le batabogi ka go farologana.

Jaanong re tshwanetse re dire pharologanyo fa, All Kasi sponsored team ya rona e e neng e ile Tokyo.

Re tshwanetse re tlhaloganye gore batabogi ba ba tshwanang le Nigel Amos le bangwe ba a ba badileng, ba na le dikonteraka le Nike.
Ga re ka ke ra ba peteletsa to sign le All Kasi, Dlala le Wusa ba na le dikonteraka le Nike jalojalo.

Ga go na gope fa Puso e ka ba laolang teng gore tlogelang tseo le tseye tse dingwe.

Ke e tlhatswe fela gone foo Honourable Minister.

Ke a leboga.

MR KGAFELA: Ke lebogetse tlhaloso ya gago.

O buile gape gore gantsi re e tle re beye bagwebi ba ba botlana ka fa mosing e le gore they are charged ba rekisa the chips.
Ba kelemetse gore ditapole gore di tswa kae, di lebega e se tsa mo gae, e bo e le gore they are charged.

Ke ka leboga fa motlotlegi a ka nkatumela a mpha those cases ra utlwa gore gatwe mathata ke eng.

Ke itse gore ditapole kana re kile mo nakong e e fetileng ra re nnyaa bagaetsho ka re a di lema mo gae a jaanong e nneng tsa mo gae tse e leng gore di a rekwa mo mabentleleng.
Gone re a itse gore le fa re ntse re tswaletse borders bagaetsho, borukutlhi jwa papadi jone bo nna bo le teng, ba e leng gore ba jabetsa (tsietsa) Mmuso, ba jabetsa Batswana e le gore jaanong ba tsaya dilo tseo kwa ntle.

Di teng re a di bona di le mo matshelonyaneng.

Ke ne ke utlwa gantsi e le gore dingongora fa di goroga kwa go nna, go supafala gore ke matshelonyana a re bakelang mathata a. Matshelonyana o rekisa ditapole mme fa re re re a di lebelela di tswa kwa Afrika Borwa.
Selo se se re beile ka fa mosing.

E bile go na le mabentlele mangwe a o kgonang gore o fitlhele ditapole tseo foo.

E bo e re jaanong fa go tlhotlhomisiwa mong wa lebentlele a bo e le gore o claim gore, “nnyaa, ke sale ke di rekile pele fa le thibela ditapole.” Kana re itse gore tapole ke selo se e leng gore ga se nne sebaka, mo nakong e khutshwane e setse e simolola go senyega.
Jaanong e re fa o re o lebelela gore go simolotswe go thibelwa leng, o bo o lebelela bo fresh jwa ditapole tse o bona gore nnyaa, yo tota fela jaanong o a re fora, ga go boammaaruri, ke tse a tswang go di tsaya go ntse go na le molao o o thibelang kamogelo ya dilo tse di tswang kwa ntle.

Motlotlegi Rre Molebatsi o buile.

Ke lebogetse kemo nokeng ya gago.


O buile thata ka Economic Inclusion le matshosetsi a bagwebi bangwe ba ba tsenang mo dikonterakeng tse di telele gore ba tle ba thibele tiro ya molao o sentle.

Ke re ba tlaa ipona ka gore go na le selo se gotweng supervening impossibility.

Fa e le gore jaanong ka mabaka a phitiso ya molao wena o na le konteraka a bo e le gore molao o thulathulana le konteraka ya gago, obviously Puso will take precedence over your contractual relationship.
Jaanong ba tlaa ipona, ba ya go tsena mo mathateng, ba ya go iphitlhela e le gore jaanong ba di gama ba sa di tlhapela because molao o moleele, o tlile go ba fitlhelela.

If there are any who are doing that, let it be known to them gore they are going to suffer supervening impossibility of performance of their contracts a bo ba sekisiwa.

They are exposing themselves to ditsheko tse di tlaa ba tlhotlhorang dipata fa e le gore ba dira jalo.
26 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRYCommittee of Supply (Resumed Debate) Economic Inclusion jaaka re e fetisitse, batlotlegi ba nkatlile nako ya fa ke ba kopa, re itlamile gore re ya go e tsenya mo tirisong.

Obviously, molao wa mofuta o fa o tsena mo tirisong, o tshwanetse jaanong wa grease maotwana wa baakanya tsotlhe tse di tlhokafalang.

Re santse re thubile lebelo.


Ke kopile Ramolaomogolo gore a kgwarinyekgwarinye regulations tse di tlaa re thusang go tsamaisa molao.

Ke kopile le motlotlegi ka nna Tona wa tsa Merero ya Puso Rre Morwaeng gore a nthuse ka to create office ya Coordinator ka gore kana ke ene seterebo sa rona se setona.

Ke rurufatsa gore ba thubile lebelo la gore office e e dirwe re tle re simolole.
Ke a go solofetsa Motlotlegi Rre Molebatsi gore re tlaa dirisanya le PPADB Act ka botlalo go tlhomamisa gore melao e e thusa Batswana.

Ke leboga ba o neng o rile ga ke a ba leboga.

Ba tlaa intshwarela.
Ba United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) ba dikile ba re thusitse go menagane gantsi ka Supplier Development Programme gore fa o le mogwebi supplying goods a bo o gakgamalela ba o ba neelang dithoto ba sa tlhole ba go kgatlhegela, a bo e le gore jaanong ba a phuruphutsha gore matsapa di a tsere kae e bo e le gore fa e ne e le gore o kgopisitse kgotsa o tlhaetse golo gongwe e bo e le gore yo e leng gore o a mo supply o a thusiwa gore se se neng se mo tshwenya se baakanngwe o tle o boele onto that supply relationship.
Ke re ke leboga go menagane.

E teng thulaganyo eo.

Ke a ba leboga rra fa e le gore ke ne ke ba fositse, e ne le phosego fela ya setho.

Rre Mabuse le ene Mabuse Pule… is gradually MR CHAIRPERSON: Your becoming very unhealthy Honourable Minister.

Be prepared to move.

time MR KGAFELA: E re fa ke tla kwa bokhutlong, ke tlaa tlola tse dintsi ka gore ga ke ka ke ka di araba tsotlhe.

Ke leboga Rre David Tshere, o file dikgakololo, le ene ke mo utlwile.
Fa ke tla bokhutlong, Modulasetilo, ke tsaya sebaka se ke re batlotlegi botlhe mafoko a bone a mantle.

Ke re ke eme ka kopo e ya tšhelete e ke e kopileng e ke e beileng batlotlegi pele.

Motlotlegi Modulasetilo, last time fa ke se mo ministry ono, ke ne ka move at the beginning ke kaya gore kana molao wa re o move at the beginning, jaanong to move for the second time ke ne ke sa go tlhaloganye.
Fela gore ke se ka ka fatlha batlotlegi ke re Mr Chairperson, I move in terms of the position I placed before my Honourable Members of Parliament.

The sum I seek for their approval is Nine Hundred and Fifty-One Million, Eight Hundred and Ninety-One Thousand and Forty Pula (P951, 891, 040.00).

I so move Mr Chairperson.

Question put and agreed to.


ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that 2 hours 50 minutes have been allocated to this Organisation.

I shall call upon the Honourable Minister to reply to the debate at 12:05 p.m. tomorrow and the question will be put at 12:35 tomorrow.

Honourable Minister Kgotla Kenneth Autlwetse, Rraagwe Tirelo, please talk to your Bill.
MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR AUTLWETSE): Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Mr Chairperson, I have the honour to present before this Honourable Committee, the 2022/2023 financial year Recurrent and Development Budget proposals for the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development, Organisation 0800, for your consideration and approval.
I am requesting a total of Nine Billion, One Hundred and Sixty-Six Million, One Hundred and Forty-Nine Thousand, Four Hundred and Seventy-Eight Pula (P9, 166,149,478.00).

This amount is made up of Seven Billion, One Hundred and Fifty-Two Million, Seven Hundred and Ninety Thousand, One Hundred and Eighty Pula (P7,152,790,180.00) for Recurrent Budget and Two Billion, Thirteen Million, Three Hundred and Fifty-Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Ninety-Eight Pula (P2, 013, 359,298.00) for Development Budget.
to Mr Chairperson, my ministry continues take cognisance of National development priorities, as espoused in the National Development Plan (NDP) 11 to advance the country’s Vision 2036.

To this end, efforts have been made to align the ministry’s budget proposals with the President’s Reset and Reclaim Agenda as well as the Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan (ERTP) and my Ministry Strategy and Transformation Plan (MSTP).
It is important that before proceeding with presentation of the proposed budget for financial year 2022/ 2023, I highlight progress made by my ministry during the 27 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply 2021/2022 financial year budget, as well as challenges encountered therein.

I will also highlight some of the strategies and priorities my ministry will pursue in the coming financial year.
Performance Management As I indicated in my last Committee of Supply Speech, my ministry reviewed the 2018/2023 Strategic Plan in an effort to improve performance and respond to emerging developmental needs of citizen and meet customer expectations.

Mr Chairperson, the MSTP is my ministry’s road map and a springboard for the success of the Reset and Reclaim Agenda, Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan (ERTP) and other national policy pronouncements by this Government.
In this regard, I am pleased to inform this Honourable House that, implementation of key priorities as spelt out in the MSTP, commenced in earnest during 2021/2022 financial year, through the support of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).
I want to take this opportunity Mr Chairperson, to extend my sincere gratitude to UNDP for their continued facilitation of knowledge transfer and contribution towards building our institutional capacity, by channeling resources towards initiatives that will upon completion improve the lives of our citizens.

Through UNDP support, 12 consultancy projects supporting the Strategy have been funded.
These include amongst others; • Review of Ministry of Local Government and functions and (MLGRD) Rural Development organisational structure; • Development and implementation of MLGRD Communication Strategy; Decentralisation Reform Mr Chairperson, my ministry has developed the Draft National Decentralisation Policy for Botswana.
This is in line with Vision 2036 pronouncement, that ”our Local Authorities will be empowered through devolution of political and administrative powers to make decisions, mobilize own resources, promote local economic development and partner with other development actors such as the private sector and civil society in delivering quality services to their communities.” This Draft Policy will create a governance framework that will promote sustainable development, enhance citizens’ participation by transferring decision-making powers and resources to local Governments to enable them deliver services in a coherent and effective manner, and be more accountable for the decisions they make.
The Draft Policy has a costed Implementation Framework which will be implemented in phases to guide the overall execution.

During Phase 1, the necessary coordinating and implementing structures will be established, legal changes will be considered and implemented as well as generating buy-in from various line ministries and raising public awareness and support for the policy.

The Draft Policy is a product of extensive consultations with various stakeholders.
These stakeholders include all councils, Dikgosi in some Districts, District Development Structures, Honourable Member of Parliaments, Ntlo ya Dikgosi, Vision 2036 Council and the Portfolio Committee on Local Governance and Social Welfare.

The Draft Policy awaits consideration and approval by Cabinet and ultimate presentation to the Winter Session of Parliament.

Once approved, the policy will be implemented in a phased approach, which will reflect the short and medium term priorities.
• Review of the Rural Development Policy; Social Upliftment • Review of Affirmative Action Framework for Remote Area Communities; • Design and Rollout of an Integrated and Digitised Monetary and Evaluation System; • Development of the Digital Transformation Strategy; • Digitising of Social Protection Programmes; and • Feasibility Study on the application of the Supplier Development Programme to School Feeding.
These projects are at various stages of implementation and will be completed in the next financial year.

Mr Chairperson, my ministry in collaboration with other stakeholders, continues to provide inclusive, adaptive and shock-responsive social protection services to the less privileged for a dignified life.

A total of 232, 396 beneficiaries have been assisted through various Social Protection Programmes.
These include; 40,726 destitute persons, 127,274 Old Age Pensioners, 1,058 World War II Veterans, 1,011 Community Home Based Care patients, 8,588 People Living with Disabilities, 33,270 vulnerable children and 20,489 Orphans with a budget of One Billion, Six Hundred and Thirty-One Million, One Hundred and Forty-Five Thousand, Five Hundred and Twenty Pula (P 1, 631, 145, 520).
28 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply Mr Chairperson, I am happy to inform this Honorable House that Government has increased by P100 allowances for Village Development Committees(VDCs), Disability Cash Transfers, World War II Veterans, Old Age Pension and Destitute Cash Allowances starting April 2022.
Furthermore, my ministry was allocated a budget of P70, 600, 000 for construction of 704 houses during financial year 2021/2022.

To date 417 have been completed, 198 are at various stages of construction and expected to be completed by third quarter of 2022, and 89 at procurement stage.
Mr Chairperson, Government through my ministry, continues to implement the National Social Protection Framework (NSPF) as well as the National Social Protection Recovery Plan (NSPRP) aimed at delivering a social protection system that will ultimately reduce waste and “double dipping”.
To this end, development of the Single Social Registry is ongoing with data on social protection programmes implemented by MLGRD already uploaded into the system, while data for programmes implemented by other ministries will be uploaded by end of March 2022.

Mr Chairperson, the Affirmative Action Framework a review of (AAF) for Remote Area Communities of 2014 and impact assessment of the Remote Area Development Programme (RADP) is nearing completion.
The objective of the review is to determine the extent to which the AAF plan has been implemented and to provide recommendations for the re-orientation of the RADP.

The approved recommendations from the review will be implemented during the 2022/23 financial year after the due processing of the review report.
Basic Municipal Infrastructure Mr Chairperson, in line with the President’s Reset and Reclaim Agenda, my ministry has continued to implement programmes and projects that provide basic infrastructure and improve the livelihoods of Batswana.

In this regard we have continued implementing the Constituency Community Programme (CCP).

Since the inception of the programme in 2017/2018, a total of 4 109 projects have been funded across all the 57 constituencies.
Out of these, 3 417 or 83 per cent are complete and 719 are at different stages of implementation.

These projects created a cumulative total of 16, 670 jobs for the local communities across all constituencies.

Implementation of this programme in the next financial year will focus on engagement of small contractors and village artisans to catalise local economies and bring the much needed income to those engaged.
the Mr Chairperson, intensive component labour of the Ipelegeng Programme has engaged 706,616 beneficiaries at a cost of Four Hundred and Forty-One Million, Eight Hundred and Twenty-Five Thousand and Seventy-One Pula (P441,825,071).

Please allow me to appraise this Honourable House that Government has embarked on transforming the Ipelegeng Programme to make it more efficient and sustainable.
A joint collaboration between my ministry and Ministry of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development commenced implementation of the new programme in the South East District.

Three sites have been cleared in Mogobane (2) and Otse (1), with a total of 56 beneficiaries who have been identified for the training.
The newly introduced skills development component of Ipelegeng Programme provides an opportunity to train beneficiaries of the programme in artisan skills such as bricklaying, carpentry, painting and plumbing.

The intention is to skill them and make them ready for better paying job opportunities elsewhere.
At the initial stage, the beneficiaries will be deployed to train under Government programmes such as Constituency Community Projects (CCP), Destitute Housing and maintenance of public facilities to acquire skills.

The programme will be rolled out to other districts in the next financial year.

Mr Chairperson, my ministry continues to provide a conducive environment in all primary schools by expanding, maintaining and building new schools throughout the country to improve access to basic education.
Most of these programmes are done through the ERTP.

Construction of two new primary schools is progressing well in Gaborone.

Contractors have mobilised to site, whilst construction of other schools in six Local Authorities (Central, Kgatleng, Southern, City of Francistown, Kweneng and North West) are at different stages of procurement.

Mr Chairperson, the People’s Republic of China continues to support development programmes under my ministry.
Currently, an additional primary school in Kazungula funded by the Chinese Government is under construction.

Once complete, the school will deliver 14 classrooms, 16 teachers’ houses, a kitchen, a dining hall, a library, an administration block, a toilet block, an elevated water tank and sports field landscaping.

To date, setting and excavation works are on-going and the project is expected to be completed in October 2023.
29 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply Mr Chairperson, Government continues to provide for Early Childhood Education (ECE) Programme through implementation of the Reception Class project in primary schools to improve learners’ readiness for school and lifelong learning.

The project covering 613 primary schools has enrolled over 25,640 learners.
During 2021, 29 primary schools have started the programme, bringing the total to 642 out of 758 primary schools country wide.

The remaining 116 primary schools will be covered in subsequent years, resources permitting.

Mr Chairperson, I am pleased to inform this Honourable Committee that construction of Kang, Gabane and Tutume Village Infrastructure Development Projects comprising internal roads, storm water drainage and solar street lighting are now complete.
In the same vein, tenders for procurement of consultants for the designs and supervision of Village Infrastructure Development Projects in Mogoditshane and Tlokweng under ERTP are progressing well.

Actual implementation of these projects is expected to commence during the course of 2022/2023 financial year.
SUPPLEMENTARY FEEDING Mr Chairperson, Government continues to provide supplementary feeding to 373,243 primary school pupils and 297,542 vulnerable groups in health facilities, constituting under-fives, expectant mothers, lactating mothers and Tuberculosis (TB) out patients.
In order to create market access to local farmers and Small Micro and Medium Enterprises (SMMEs), my ministry has additionally decentralised procurement of cow peas for the primary school supplementary feeding programme to Local Authorities.

This follows decentralisation of procurement of cooking oil and Ultra-High Temperature (UHT) milk to local authorities during the last financial year.
Furthermore, my ministry in liaison with other key ministries and stakeholders is currently reviewing the school feeding menu to incorporate home grown produce, with the ultimate goal of improving the nutritional quality of school meals.

RURAL DEVELOPMENT Mr Chairperson, Government continually develops and adopts new models to facilitate transformation of the Rural Development Agenda.

One such initiative is the decision by Government to move towards a fully- fledged Home Grown School Feeding Programme.
Through this initiative, it is anticipated that SMMEs and small holder farmers will be linked to the school feeding programme to ensure market access in the supply of agricultural produce to primary schools, with the intention of creating jobs and improving livelihoods.
Intensified efforts of the Rural Development Council (RDC) towards promotion of rural industries is expected to catalyse rural development by tapping into the huge potential presented by natural resource endowments in the rural areas to create jobs and boost local economic activity.
Good examples of this potential will be found in projects such as Zutshwa Salt Mine, Bokspits, Rappelspan, Vaalhoek and Struizendam (BORAVAST) based Sexanana harvesting and fodder production, as well as edible oils from Morula, Mongongo, groundnuts and sunflower.

Although there are local enterprises already producing these oils, most are operating at small scale.

However, prospects to grow exist as the domestic market currently depends on imported oil.
Furthermore, the exotic oils from Mongongo and Morula trees can be used in the food, cosmetics and pharmaceutical industries, with potential for export, especially morula oil.

These efforts are in line with the Government’s Reset/ Reclaim Agenda to drive our Value Chain Development, as well as my ministry’s Local Economic Development (LED) strategy… MR CHAIRPERSON: Be prepared to move.
MR AUTLWETSE: Furthermore, as a strategy to accelerate take-off of sustainable community projects, the RDC is also engaging ministries to seek cost sharing opportunities.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Be prepared Honourable Minister.

to move HONOURABLE MEMBER: We do not have time.

MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Chairperson, allow me to present my ministry’s proposal financial allocation under the Recurrent and Development Budget for 2022/2023 financial year.
Mr Chairperson, the 2022/2023 proposal Recurrent Budget for my ministry is Seven Billion, 30 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply One Hundred and Fifty-Two Million, Seven Hundred and Ninety Thousand, One Hundred and Eighty Pula (P7,152,790,180).

This reflects an increase of 2 per cent from the last budget.
Mr Chairperson, the remaining balance of my ministry’s proposed Recurrent Budget which is 150 or 2.4 per cent of the Recurrent Budget will be shared by five departments.

Mr Chairperson, under Development Budget, I propose that the Two Billion, Thirteen Million, Three Hundred and Fifty- Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Ninety-Eight Pula (P2,013,359,298) be approved for development programmes and projects during the 2022/2023 financial year.

…Silence… MR CHAIRPERSON: O ka senyetsa motho tiro Tona.
MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Chairperson, this concludes my ministry’s presentation for the 2022/2023 Financial Year budget proposals.
I therefore move that the 2022/2023 Recurrent Budget in the sum of Seven Billion, One Hundred and Fifty-Two Million, Seven Hundred and Ninety Thousand, One Hundred and Eighty Pula (P7, 152,790,180) be approved and stand part of the Schedule of the Appropriation (2022/23) Bill 2022 for Head 0800 and that the Development Budget in the sum of Two Billion, Thirteen Million, Three Hundred and Fifty Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Ninety Eight Pula (P2, 013, 359,298) be approved and stand part of those Estimates.
I thank you Mr Chairperson.

Mr Chairperson, kana selo se ga se ministry, it is a second tier of Government.

Thank you Sir.

MR CHAIRPERSON: You are out of time.

I am taking an uncalculated risk to be doing this away from your time.

MR AUTLWETSE: Thank you very much Mr Chairperson, thank you for your kindness.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, the matter is open for debate.

MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR MOLAO): Ke a leboga Modulasetilo wa Komiti ya gompieno go mpha sebaka.
Ke ema nokeng kopo ya ga Tona.

Ke taboge fela ke simolole go supa gore, re lebogela gore a bo a setse a supile gore policy e tlaa tla, e ke ka e bitsang fela ke re ya decentralisation, e e leng gore tota e tlaabo e isa ditlamelo ko bathong.

Ke se ka ka oshaosha Mr Chairperson, ke tlhalose fela gore re tswa kgakala re bua gore dikgaolo dingwe di atlhame thata, di di tona, jaanong ga di tsamae sentle, di sokodisa batho.
Akanya fela motho a tswa kwa Mathangwane, kana Matsitama a ya go batla ditlamelo kwa Serowe.

Motho a tswa kwa Gweta a ya Serowe gore go bokete go le kanakang.

Mo gongwe a tsamaela selo se e leng gore ka tlhwatlhwa gongwe se mo lopa P50 mme ene petrol kana madi a sepagamo a a a dirisang, a feta P500 go ya kwa godimo, gore it does not make economic sense.

Ke sone ke dumalanang gore fela jaaka mo maitlamong a rona a ditlhopho, re ne ra tlhalosa gore kgang e ke kgang e re tlaa e emelang ka dinao.
Re santse re batla go gatelela gore dikgaolo tse dingwe tse e leng gore ke dikgaolo potlana gompieno, tota they are already self-defined to be immediately made fully-fledged district.
Kgaolo e tshwana ya Tutume e re tswang kgakala re bua ka yone e le nngwe ya sub-districts tsa ntlha di tlhongwa mo lefatsheng la Botswana, is a big candidate gore e dirwe a fully-fledged district, e bo e le gore gongwe sub-districts di ka dirwa teng kwa Sebina le Nata jalojalo, mme e le gore Tutume has been made a fully-fledged district.
Ke selo se re tlaa bong re se emetse, re se rotloetsa thata, se e leng gore batho ba dikgaolo tse re di emetseng ba ka se lebogela, se ka ba fokoletsa manokonoko a go nna ba ya kgakala ba ya go batla ditlamelo.

Ke kgang e re tshwanetseng go tsaya e bile re sa bonye, re sa oshaoshe e tle batho ba rona ba bone ditlamelo gautshwane.

Ke selo se re se emetseng Tona gore se tle se wele e le nngwe ya ditsholofetso tse di tona tse re neng ra di dira re ya kwa ditlhophong.
Kgang ya social services go ya kwa dikgaolong, ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng ra se emela ka dinao and strengthen social services kwa dikgaolong, kana ke gone kwa batho ba leng teng.

O fitlhela diofisi tsa ba boipelego, diofisi tsotlhe tsa ba ba berekelang kwa (VDCs), kwa Village Development Committees dikgotleng, e le gore batho ba a sotlega, ba bowa ba sa bona ditlamelo tse ba di batlang.
Re tshwanetse re lebelele, o sekaseke ditiro, bogolo jang tsa ba boipelego, gore tota kwa dikgaolong tiro konokono ya bone ke eng, e tle e tlhage sentle clearly defined gore ba ka thusa batho ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Even in terms of assessment ya gore a motho yo ke yo o ka welang kwa lephateng la gore a bo a thusiwa ke Puso ka ditlamelo dingwe tse di rileng, kgotsa ke yo o ka sekeng a tlhoke thuso.
Community development e tswe sentle, e tlhage gore fa gotwe community development go tewa eng, batho ba rona ba e leng gore they are under this department, ba ka thusa setšhaba sa rona jang to access and also 31 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply self-develop gore ba kgone go ikemela ka dinao, e tle e re kgabagare re fokotse batho mo mophakong wa go nna fela ba re a re phakisiweng, mme e le gore go na le economic packages tse e leng gore programmes tsa social services di ne di ka ba atamela, tsa kgona gore di ba ntshe mo go ikaegeng fela ka go nna e le gore ke ba ba phakisiwang ke Puso, mme e le gore they are able-bodied, they can be assisted and channelled to proper economic ventures.
Jaanong go botlhokwa to strengthen this department ya community development, gore e bo motse o tshwana le Mathangwane, Borolong, Chadibe, le Matsitama go na le motho wa boipelego a le mongwefela, e bo e le gore o taboga lefatshe le lotlhe to try and deal with a large population, go dira gore ba se ka ba dira tiro e ba tshwanetseng gore ba bo ba e dira.
So it is one area e e tlhokang gore re e lebelele ka tlhoafalo gore how do we strengthen community development fa e le gore re batla go tsholetsa serodumo sa itsholelo ya magae le ya batho ba rona kwa magaeng.

Ke ya kwa dikolong jaaka re itse gore re tshwaraganetse tiro ya tsa thuto.

Backlog eradication especially for primary schools; primary schools tsa rona lefatshe ka bophara di tlhaelelwa ke mantlo a borutelo le a barutabana ba nnang mo go one.
Ke tlaa go fa sekai fela ke ya ko kgaolong ya me, fa o ya kwa primary schools tsa Matsitama, Jamataka, Natale, Semitwe, Makobo, e le sekai fela, there are so many classrooms and administration block tse e leng gore di a tlhaela, mme e le gore lenaneo le le sale go ntse go twe package so and so ya backlog eradication, dikolo tsa Matsitama, Jamataka, Natale di mo teng, mme e le gore ga di tlhagelele, ga di dirwe.

Gongwe go tlaa re re simolole go lebelela all these packages gore re ka di kgaoganya jang.
Fa e le gore it was a package e e nang le classrooms tse di ntsi le mantlo a borutelo, gongwe re di kgaoganye, re nne re ketlola, re se ka ra emela fela gore e tlaa nna package e e composite, e e feleletsang sengwe le sengwe se re se tlhokang.

Fa e ka nna e re ngwaga le ngwaga re kgaola re tsenya one by two classroom block, re tlaabo re ntse re atumela, ka gore fa re ka ema fela gore re tlaa tla re aga as if we are building a fully-fledged school, go tlaa tsaya dingwaga- ngwaga.
Jaanong gongwe o simolole Tona go lebelela these packages tsa backlog eradication packaging go bona gore a di ka se ke tsa nna di kgaoganngwa, go ketlolwa mo teng ngwaga le ngwaga, go tsenngwa tse pedi fale, go tsenngwa mantlo a burutelo a mabedi kana a mararo fale.

Also the furniture in the schools, dilo tse di tshwanang photocopiers, ke dilo tse di tlhokafalang thata in our primary schools if we are to improve service levels tsa barutabana ba rona le maduo a dikolo tsa rona ka bophara.
Dikole tse dingwe di setse di godile go feta selekanyo.

Fa o ya kwa kgaolong ya me kwa metseng e tshwana Borolong, Chadibe, those primary schools are now over spilling, mme re sale re solofela gore re ka nna le another primary school e e ka thusang go fokotsa mosuke o. Ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng ra se lebelela go bona gore di ka tlamelwa jang.
Tse dingwe ke tse di tlhokang fela go okelediwa classrooms jaaka ke bua, fa o ya kwa Mphinyane, Nyamambise, kwa Sebina jalojalo, ke dilo tse e leng gore re a di tlhoka.

Gongwe ke wetse ka ya gore, jaaka ke ne ke bua ka decentralisation and creating ...(inaudible) … jaaka ke buile ka Tutume, re solofetsa Sebina Sub District, service centre kwa Borolong le kwa Mathangwane, ke dingwe tse re eletsang gore di tlise ditlamelo gaufi le batho ba rona.
Re lebogela gore go nne le yone increment e e nnileng teng ya bo Old Age Pension, ya bo Village Development Committee (VDC) jaana, takataka ga a tshwane le tshoo!

Ke sengwe se batsadi ba rona, ba tlaa kgonang gore ba oketse letseno la bone.

Kgakololo ya gore Ipelegeng e ka tla ya tokafadiwa jang gore e tle e kgone go nna le maduo a sennelaruri, ke sengwe se re eletsang gore se nne teng.

A re lebeleleng gape lenaneo la Self Help Housing Agency (SHHA), o tlaa lemoga gore le na le backlog e ntsintsi.
Fa o ya mo kgaolong e le nngwefela, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore ka ngwaga gongwe go agiwa matlo a le 17 fela in one constituency, mme o bo o lebelela gore backlog e tsamaya kae, e tsamaya mo dingwageng tse di kwa moragorago.

Ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng go se lebelela and see how creatively we can improve on delivery of the SHHA Housing Scheme, re kgaole backlog e e ntseng e le teng.

Mananeo a mangwe re etle re a lebelela, re bona gore mme batho ba ka kgona go ithusa jang gore ba dire matlo a SHHA.
Re sa lebelela fela gore re tlaabo re budget ngwaga le ngwaga, re dira matlo a le 17, mme e le gore re santse re tsamaya kwa dingwageng tse di kwa moragorago tse e leng gore ga re ka ke ra goroga ka nako.

Gape the output le yone, matlo a mangwe a a saleng a agilwe a SHHA, a crack motho a ise a ko a tsene mo teng.
Jaanong ba Botswana Housing Corporation 32 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply (BHC) ba re thuse the small contractors ba ba re thusang go aga matlo a.

Go tshwanetse go lebelelwe ka gore go dintwa gongwe le gongwe, le kwa kgaolong ya me di teng tsa batho ba re nnyaa, ga ke ka ke ka tsaya key ka gore ntlo ke e e setse e ranyegile before ke tsena mo go yone.

Ke sengwe se o tshwanetseng go se lebelela.


Mme fela ke go eme nokeng ka mafoko a a kalo.

Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson.

MR MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Ke dumedise gape, mme ke bo ke tswelele ke supe fa ke ema nokeng kopo ya ga Tona wa Local Government, Rraetsho Autlwetse.

Ke mo ema nokeng ka kopo ya gagwe ka mabaka a re a itseng gore rona re le ba dikgaolo, segolo jang ba dikgaolo le dikgaolwana, tota matshelo a batho ba rona a mo dikhanseleng.
Ka jalo, kopo e ke tshwanetse ka e ema nokeng gore e dirwe e fete, Palamente e e fetise, batho ba ye go tswelela ba ntse ba bona ditirelo.

Ka fa a tlhalositseng ka teng, o tlhalositse tsotlhe dikeletso tsa bone, tsa lephata, gore ba ya go dira eng, mme le wena o ka bona gore go na le banna le basadi kwa lephateng le.
Ka jalo, ngwaga one o, re tshwanetse go bona madi a ka fa Tona a a kopileng ka teng, banna le mosadi mo lephateng le, Matona, ba bo ba ka tsamaya lefatshe le lotlhe, tota ba bona gore nnyaa, mme madi a a kopiwang ke Tona, a diragadiwa kana a dirisetswa tsone tse Tona a neng a di kopa.

Fela ke supe gore madi a a mannyennyane.

Ka ke kile ka nna motho kwa dikhanseleng, a mannyennyane.
Selo sa ntlha fela o tsaya Development Budget gotwe ke 2 billion mo dikhanseleng tse di kana, o a bona fela gore it is a drop in the ocean.

Go ka bo go na le package fela e e tswang kwa go ba Ministry of Finance, e e tlhamaletseng gore Southern, Chobe, Sua, Central District Council (CDC), in terms of Development Budget, ba ya go bona this amount, e le gore ke sengwe se re itseng gore go ka diragala.
Ditirelo ka bontsi kana a lot of developments, o ya kwa dikgaolong dife, di dirwa ke dikhansele, mme ka jalo, go tshwanetse gore serwe se, sa Development Budget, se okediwe go ya ka dikhansele tsotlhe; bo Gaborone City, Southern, Chobe, bo kae, kae fela, ka fa di anameng ka teng.

Ke ne ke re ke fete ka yone ya Development Budget gore it is worrisome.
Makhanselara kana dikhansele ka bontsi, ba ela go ya go dira dikomiti le to attend fela, fa go setse go tla bo development jaanong, ba lebeletse fela mo Constituency Fund ya rona, re thusana le bone.

Bangwe ka fa ba rata go e kgala, mme e ba thusa.

Ka rona re le mapolotiki re dibedi.

Ke fete ka ao mafoko.

A me mafoko a matona a a batlang go agelwa mosako.

Mr Chairperson, Honourable Molao o ntse a bua fa, re tlaa nna re e touta, re e tlatsa, re e bua.
E e tlodilwe ke dinako thata, go bua ga re a bolo go bua, jaanong ke sone se ke reng ngwaga o, ka wa simologa, e re o ya go fela, bo monnao le wena, le bo le tsamaile lefatshe le, le supa districts.

O di announce fela mo Radio Botswana kana mo television Motlotlegi Tona.

Bo Boteti, Tutume, tota di setse di itshupile, le tse dingwe botsadi, di dintsi le a di itse Mapalamente ba le amegang.

Sub-districts di bo di dirwa.


Maloba ke ne ka rata ka fa le neng le dirile ka teng, le setse le isa Balaodi kwa sub- districts jaana, kana kwa go tlhomiwang sub-districts jaaka kwa bo Nata.

Ga ke itse gore go diile eng Tona, ka gore, yo o neng o mo tlhatlhama foo Rre Molale, go ne go supagetse gore le bakwaledi, fa go tshwana le Tutume le bo Nata-Gweta jaana, go nne le mothusa mokwaledi a le kwa Tutume, mme solely responsible for Nata, mme re bona go tlile Molaodi fela.
A go fefogiwe gore ditirelo di tle di kgone go ka diragala.

Kgang e nngwe e ke batlang gore ke fete ka yone jaaka ke ne ke bua ka decentralisation gore ba e buile, e bile e straight, e batla nako fela gore ngwaga o se ka wa fela, ke kgang ya ditirelo.

Re a itse gore lephata le le na le mananeo a mantsi, ke lone le le isang ditirelo le ditlhabololo, sengwe le sengwe.
Kgang e ga e wele sentle, gore linkages ya ministries jaaka gompieno le batla go dira bo Ipelegeng gore le e tlhabolole, e sale e builwe, mme mo go nna ga e wele.

Le na le ba Ministry of Labour le dira sengwe, ke a se atla thata, mme a se ko se wele fa e le a pilot project.

Fa e le gore le se anamisa lefatshe lotlhe, gompieno a se aname.

Re na le badirelapuso ba bantsi ba tletse mo ministries, ba bangwe ga ba na se ba se dirang, ba rwele maemo fela.
Ba dikgaolo ba a dira, bo mmaboipelego, ba buildings ba mo ground le ba bangwe.

Ba ba tletseng kwa ministry, a ba anamise ditirelo tse le batlang go di dira tse di botlhokwa, tse le tlaabong le le in conjunction le other ministries to improve Ipelegeng.

The Ipelegeng component, nnyaa, ga re ka ke ra lela Honourable Minister, le fa le ka kgaola dipalo tsa yone, mme re bo re e betla gore e nne something which will have a sustainability in jobs creation, in employment.
Ga re ka ke ra re nnyaa, go kgaotswe dipalo from 100 jaanong ba 75.

Re tlaabo re itse gore part of this budget, e ya go baakanya dilo tseo gore go nne le sustenance ya employment creation and guarantee ya job security mo dipalong.

Ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng go di ruta batho ba rona, re bo re bona gore re di isa kwa Batswaneng.
33 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply Mr Chairperson, kgang e nngwe gape jaaka re bona e le gore nnyaa, go na le some initiatives tse e leng gore rural development agenda is on and ba a e leka.

Ke a dumela gore banna ba le mosadi yo fa ba le kwa, these things di dintsi mo ministry one o.
So di batla a push gore e re ngwaga o ya go fela, ka State of the Nation Address (SONA), a bo dilo tse ba di kgarameditse, le rona re di bona di diragala mo kgaolong.

Batho ga ba sa tlhola ba batla re bua thata, ba batla implementation, dilo ba di bona, ba re districts ke tse, le Ipelegeng e tokafetse jaanong, e na le sustenance, employment creation mo metseng le mo magaeng.
Fa ba bona tsone tseo fela, Honourable Minister, re tlaabo re feditse sengwe le sengwe, batho ba bona gore nnyaa, mme lephata le ke lone maphutha-ditšhaba, le tsweletse.

O buile ka bo Zutshwa, Sexanana, le mo kgaolong ya me, grass cutting go batla di van, batho ba tla kwano botlhe ba tla go kgetla bojang.

Projects tsa diphane di tletse mo kgaolong ya me kwa bo Kutamogoree, Lepashe le Matsitama, kwa bo kaekae, ke dingwe tse re ka di tsenyang mo go tsone tsa bo Sexanana le Zutshwa.
Re na le bana, re ba rutile, re bona gore di ka nna jang gore batho ba nne ba itse gore ba na le market, go ka dirwa jang.

Bo moseme, gompieno jaana kwa kgaolong ya me le fa o bona ditlou di re bolaya jaana, ga se ka batho ba ba bapalang moseme, ditlou le tsone di ja moseme.

Ke dingwe tse di ka bong di tla di rekisiwa mo le bo morula.

Le tsone re ka di goboka.

Kwa kgaolong ya ga Hikuama, Motlotlegi Moswaane, Brooks le kwa kgaolong ya mongwe fela ka Botswana yo o mo tona, di teng.
Fa di ka batliwa sentle go ya ka mafelo a tsone and then be packaged, employment creation e ka nna teng.

Go batla le kgweetsa bo Tona, ka gore mo ministries mo go na le barutegi le bangwe officers ba ba sa emeng ka dinao.

Ke santse ke rialo.

Kwa dikgaolong re ba bona gone foo, o le mmaboipelego, molaodi le lepodise o sa bereke.

A mo ministries go engwe ka dinao.

Mr Chairperson, rona kwa Nata Sub-District ga re a ema.
Le tsamaile Tona le re decentralisation, kwano ke rile re se ka ra ema, fa e le sengwe re tlaa tshwarwa re tlaa ya go seka.

Re sike, re baakanye mafelo re bone gore through Public Private Partnership (PPP) initiative le Constituency Community Project (CCP), sub district re ka e dira jang.

E re re tlisa officers re se ka ra re nnyaa ga re na eng.
O se ka wa ema Molebatsi le Honourable Modukanele, o baakanye mafelo ka gore fa o ka ema Batswana kwa gae kwa ba tlaa re Molebatsi o bua ka sub-district mme o eme.

O kgarameletse kwa pele, fa e le sengwe ba bangwe ba tlaa tla ba fitlhela re e bitsa gore ke ya ga Molebatsi.

Jaanong Tona, rona re tsweletse kwano.

Ministry wa gago ga o na madi a go aga bus ranks tsa bo Nata.
Rona re tsweletse kwano re baakanya ditsha, gore through PPP ya ga Mme Serame, re agele batho bus rank, yo mongwe a bo a aga mall, rona a re agetse bus rank, ka gore council ga e na go lala e dirile bus rank.

Fa re ka ema fela, nnyaa ga re ka ke ra dira.

Le fa re dira dilo tseo, go na le ba bangwe ba ba lwang ba re nnyaa ba tsaya dilo, ba tsaya dilo.

You are the chief development campaigner, fa o le Mopalamente, o itse dilo tse go feta mang le mang.

Thank you.
Thank you.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Your time is up Honourable Member for Nata-Gweta.

…(Inaudible)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR CHAIRPERSON: Order!

Order!

Ke tlaa go leleka nna Pono.

Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Francistown West.

MR MOSWAANE (FRANCISTOWN WEST): Thank you Mr Chairperson.

Ke tseye nako e go lebogela gore o bo o mphile sebaka sa gore le nna ke buisane le ministry o ka fa o tshwereng dilo ka teng.
La ntlha Modulasetilo, ke lemotshe Palamente gore re na le Destitute Policy e e under the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development e e nang le 25 years, e mo nakong ya gompieno e sa tlholeng e berekela Batswana ba le bantsi.

E baka confusion mo gare ga maphata, ba ba batlang go thusiwa le ba ba eletsang go thusiwa tota.
Policy e ya re e baakanngwe, ke ne le eleditse gore ke ka tlisa Motion wa gore golo mo go baakanngwe, ke bo ke tshaba fela gore kana go tlile gotwe e a baakanngwa, mme gongwe e ise e baakanngwe Modulasetilo.

Kgang e nngwe e re e tshwereng thata ke ya gore, mo dikgannyeng tsa rona tsa ditlhabololo re eteletswe… MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Moswaane, switch off your phone.

Ke tlaa roma security a tla a e tsaya.

MR MOSWAANE: Thank you so much.


Mr Chairperson, re sale tsaya boipuso re goga ka Village Development Committees (VDCs) kana Ward Development Committees (WDCs) mo toropong.
Re bone tlhabologo e tsena thata kwa go ba Palamente le Makhanselara, ra bona jaanong ba e leng beng ba 34 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply dikgaolo e leng WDC kana VDC ba santse ba amogela zero rraetsho, ba bereka ka boitlhaopo mo tirong ya bone.

Ke nako Modulasetilo gore Tona, a lebelele guideline e ya gagwe sentle e e neng e supa gore o tlaa nna a sekaseka go bona dikatso tsa bone.
Ke nako ya gore gompieno, ba tsenngwe mo seemong sa minimum wage botoka jotlhe, ka gore VDC ya gompieno ga se VDC ya bogologolo; ya gompieno batho ba teng ba theogela more than eight hours to nine hours a day.

Ke sone se ke reng a ba tsenngwe gore ba duelwe salary ya minimum wage tsa bo P1 500 botoka jotlhe fela, plus the sitting allowance e ba e bonang.
Ke se ke akanyang gore se ka re thusa le bone sa ba tlhabolola mo tirong ya bone, jaaka ba tshwere ka thata ka gore ga gona Mopalamente, Mokhanselara kana Tautona yo o ka ipelang a le nosi, a sa itse gore o thusitswe ke VDC.

National Development Plan (NDP), Urban Development Plan (UDC) le District Development Plan (DDP), otlhe mananeo a a ditlhabololo a dirwa kwa tlase ga VDCs le overseers tse di maleba.

Fa re tsena kwa dituelong, nnyaa re ba kgaphetse kwa tlhoko fela gotlhelele.
Seemo se a re se fetoleng gore maVDC le bone ba tsenngwe mo bathong ba ba ka bonang lemmenyana le le ba thusang mo dinakong tseo rraetsho.

Gone mo Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development, go na le lephata la SHHA.

Lephata le la SHHA le na le kotsi e tona thata Minister, ka gore ga re sa bona ditirelo tsa lone mo nakong ya gompieno.

Ba na le backlog e e fetang more than five years.

Go raya gore fa party e tsene mo Pusong jaana, e ya go tswa fela backlog e ntse e le teng.
Ke seemo se ke reng a se baakanngwe Modulasetilo.

Tona, a ko o lebe selo se go bona gore backlog ya SHHA re e fa priority fela jaaka re file diemo tse dingwe, gore batho ba kgone go aga.

Motho ke bonno.

Lenaneo le la SHHA ke lone le Batswana ba thusiwang go aga metse ka lone, le motho a kgonang go ithusa go ikagela ka lone, ka gore go a supega mo nakong ya gompieno gore motho ga a ka ke a tlhola a kgona go aga ka madi a a nang le one gotlhelele, dikago di ile kwa godimo fela thata.
Lenaneo le a ko le lejwe le tlhabololwe, le okelediwe madi le gone ntlo e e neng e agiwa pele ka P90 000, bagaetsho ga e sa tlhole e ka kgonega ntlo ya P90 000.

Madi a okediwe, Batswana ba thusiwe ka matlo a a nang le seriti.
Lenaneo la rona la CCP le le gateletsweng thata, le eteletswe pele thata ke Mapalamente a dikgaolo tse 57, le nnile le a setback ya gore ka COVID, financial years tse pedi le ne la se ka la ntshetswa madi kana le ne la ntshetswa madi ke Palamente, mme Puso ya a gata ka tsela nngwe, ba supa gore projects tse dingwe kana madi ga a supe a dirisiwa sentle ka ntateng ya COVID.
Modulasetilo le Tona, ke nako ya gore le akanye gore dikgaolo tse di eteletseng pele go dirisa madi a sentle, a di neelwe madi a tsone a backlog a financial years tse di fetileng, ba kgone go tswelela ba sa diiwe ke gore ba tlodilwe gotlhelele ke lenaneo jaaka go ntse kana re bona.

Ke kopa jalo Modulasetilo, se se kgona gore re se thuse mo nakong e e tlang gore ditlhabololo tsa rona di tsamalane le five years wa rona wa Mapalamente, jaaka re dumalane gore re tlaabo re le Mapalamente for five years.
Jaaka re kopile Puso gore lenaneo le le re thuse, a le tsamaisane le five years wa rona, go se ka ga fitlhelwa Tona o tsere tshwetso ya go gata madi ao, mme a sa dumalana le rona.
A go nneng le tirisano fa gare ga Mapalamente le ministry o o maleba, go bona gore fa sengwe se pala, a Mopalamente mongwe le mongwe a bidiwe kwa ministry oo a ye go arabela dikgang tsa gagwe, a supe letshwenyego la gore mathata ke eng, ka gore go a lebega gape gore dikhansele le tsone di lenyora legolo di batla go tsaya lenaneo le ba le itsamaisetsa kwa ntle ga Mapalamente.
Ke batla go ba tlhalosetsa gore, lenaneo le ke la Mapalamente ka gore re tsile ka lone re sena go lemoga gore go na le mathata a gore fa re tsena mo ditlhophong re a bo re na le tsholofelo e ntsi, mme o fitlhela NDP, UDC kana DDP running, o sena se wena o ka baakanyetsang batho ba kgaolo ka sone.

Ke se re ileng ra se kopa gore, a lenaneo le le nne teng.

Ke leboge Puso gore le ne la nna teng.


Lenaneo la rona la Ipelegeng le lone le buiwa thata ka gore le tlaa tlhabololwa bagaetsho, le tlaa tla le na le dikitsokitso tse di kgonang go tlhabolola motho.

A ko go dirwe ka bonako, re na le three years fa e sale Puso e ntšha e tsena gotwe le a sekasekiwa, e bile jaanong five years o a fela.

2023 re ya ditlhophong Ipelegeng a ise a fele bagaetsho, re re selo se a ko se fefosiwe ka bonako.

Ipelegeng ke nako ya gore ba tsene mo go reng ba amogele minimum wage.
Ba duelwe madi a ba kgonang go ithusa.

A e re fa ba duelwa jaana, ba bereke a full day of eight hours ba duelwe madi a minimum wage, gore ba kgone go itshetsa le bone ka gore P567 for two months ga a a lekana.

Ga a a lekana, ka gore ga o amogele per month, per month go tewa fa e ne e le gore o a amogela kgwedi le kgwedi.

Jaanong ka gore o theogela kgwedi e le nngwefela o bo o tšhaisa gotsweng foo, go raya gore o amogela P230 ka kgwedi.
Jaanong madi a le one, a a sekasekwe go bona gore a ka thusa batho jang mo nakong ya gompieno.

35 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply Ke tseye sebaka se Modulasetilo, ke kope baagi ba lefatshe la Botswana le ba kgaolo ya me gore ke nako ya gore re sekaseke gore re latlhele lemme mo Pusong gore re duele service levy ya rona.

Service levy e botlhokwa mo ditlhabololong tse Mopalamente le Mokhanselara ba di solofetsang.
Fa re sa bue le lona ka service levy mme re le solofetsa ditlhabololo, re a bo re sa bue boammaaruri.

A re dueleng service levy Batswana betsho.

Le ye go duela sengwe le sengwe jaaka go tshwanetse.

Le duele loans tsa lona tsa building materials.

Le latlhele sengwenyana fa se le teng le fa mathata a le teng.

Ke kopo ya me bagaetsho, selo se se ka re thusa.

Allocation ya plots tsa CCP, a le tsone di abiwe ka bonako.

Go itsiwe gore ke plots tsa ditlhabololo tsa Puso.


Di se ka tsa diega two years ka ke tsone di diyang developments tsa rona.

Dilo tse a di lekwe ka bonako gore re thuse dikgaolo tsa rona ka fa re solofeditseng ka teng.

Tona yo o maleba, kwa primary schools go tsogile lesukasuka di onetse.

Go na le kgang e e ntshwenyang ke le Mopalamente wa Francistown West, go na le collection ya madi a a tsewang mo batsading a a bidiwang gotwe ke a Parent Teacher Association (PTA).
Madi a a setse a tsewa gore e kare ke school fees.

Ngwana ga a kgone go tsena sekole fa a sa a ntsha.

E bile ngwana o kgona go kobiwa mo sekoleng fa a sa ntsha.

Ke dumalana le go a collect mme ga go na ope yo o dumalang le gore madi a, has to be audited.

Madi a a tlhoka to be audited ka gore bana ba ntsha P50, mme ba le 700 mo sekoleng.

Madi a, ga a na audit, a ka nna a tsena mo diatleng tse di sa siamang.
Go na le a mangwe madi gape a gotweng ke a mokgabo a fund raising a maP5 every Friday, madi a le one is not audited.

Ke motete wa ngwenya fela ga re itse gore a bereka fa kae.

Dilo tse, a di sekasekwe Tona, o di lebelele gore re batla go thusa tšhaba e. Ke dumalana le ba ba a phuthang, mme a go nne le audit fela jaaka VDC is audited.

A PTA le tsone di nne audited.

PTA gantsi ga e itse sepe ka madi a, a itsiwe ke Bagokgo.
A bidiwa ka leina la PTA mme ga ba itse go a tshwara, e bile ga ba itse go a laola le gore a dirisiwa jang.

Ke sone se ke kopang gore a madi a a PTA a nne audited, mme e bile a se ka a kgoreletsa ngwana go tsena sekole.

Fa ngwana a kolota, a go bitswe motsadi, ke ene a tle a emele dikgang tseo.

Ngwana a tlogelwe go tsenngwa stress sa gore o kare ga a tshwane le ba bangwe mo class a shautiwa ka madi a PTA.
Ke a itse gore ke bua jaana Bagokgo bangwe ga ba rate, le tlaa intshwarela, ke emetse setšhaba ka kakaretso le lona ke le emetse.

Fa ke bua ka dituelo tsa lona, ga ke oshaoshe mme ka ra re tlhokomeleng ngwana, a se ka a boga botlhoko ka madi a PTA.

Ke a leboga Modulasetilo.

MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR DIKOLOTI): Mma ke go leboge… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re Modulasetilo, re tsholetse mabogo?

dire jang MR CHAIRPERSON: Sorry?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke ne ke re a go tsholetswa mabogo mongwame?
MR CHAIRPERSON: Nnyaa, ke tlaa go bitsa kamoso Rraagwe Nkamo.

Ke tlaa phakela ke go bitsa.

DR DIKOLOTI: Tanki Modulasetilo.

Ke emela fa go ema nokeng kopo e ya ga Motlotlegi Autlwetse.

Motlotlegi, tlhe a ko e re fa o bone bonnyennyane jo o bo boneng, o re gadime thata kwa dikoleng kwa Mmathethe-Molapowabojang.

Maintenance wa dikole tsa rona o saletse kwa morago thata.
Kgaolo ya me ke sale jaaka ke bone sengwenyana fela mo maintenance wa Mmathethe Primary, le fa le one o santse o saletse kwa morago thata tota.

Fa o ka re gadima, wa gadima le matlo a boroko jwa barutabana, e santse e le a bogologolo, a e leng gore ga ke dumele gore go na le ope yo o ka solofelang gore o ka nna a tshela sentle fela mo go one.

O tlaa bona gore batho ba ba Modimo ba tshela mo dinakong tse di thata tota.

Ba leka ka mo gotlhe gore ba kgone gore kwa bofelong ba re neele maduo.
Sekole sa Digawana se sale se rutlulolwa ke kgwanyape ka 2019.

Re sale re letile gore go tle go baakanngwa, nakokgolo ke eno.

Re tshwere bothata jo bo seng kana ka sepe.

Re thiba kafa go dutla kafa.

A ko tsweetswee tlhe motlotlegi, o tsenye leitlho thata gone ka koo.

Ke santse ke le mo go ya school infrastructure motlotlegi, a ko e re tlhe fa o ntse o bona sengwenyana, gape re gadime kwa Digawana.

Fa re ka bona preschool class, re tlaabo re thusegile thata ka gore Digawana ke motse o motona.
Go dingalo gore re bo re ikgaratlhela ka fa re ikgaratlhelang ka teng.

O bona gore re sheleketla fela mo e leng gore fa o ne o ka re tlela ka class ya teng, re ka kgona gore thuto e nne boswa jo e leng gore nna le Kgosi Kgwakgwe, re dumela gore ke jwa boammaaruri tota.

Motlotlegi, ke na le mathata fa go tla go tsena mo dikgannyeng tsa Tribal mo kgaolong ya Mmathethe- Molapowabojang.
O ya go fitlhela e le gore bonnyennyane jo o bo tsayang o bo isa kwa Rolong, fa ba dira maintenance wa diofisi tsa bone tsa Tribal, e nna tsa Barolong fela.

O fitlhela kgaolo ya me e e welang kwa go bontsalake fale, go raya gore pitsa ya me e kwa Kanye.

O fitlhela e le gore monko wa teng o felela ka 36 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply kwa, ga o goroge kwa Mmathethe-Molapowabojang.
Fa o ka ya go tsena kwa ofising ya ga Letshabo kwa, ke mangomola pelo fela.

Ceilings di a wa, difensetere ga go tswalege, ke mathata.

Fa o ya kwa Mogojogojo kwa go Kgosi Sebopo, ke mathata.

Ofisi ya teng Kgosi Sebopo o nna fela a gadimile ka gore o kare e tlaa mo wela.

E ranyegile ka bogare fela jaana yotlhe.

O ka bona gore ga se ofisi e Kgosi a ka nnang mo go yone.

Ka tsweetswee, dikgang tse a re di ele tlhoko motlotlegi.
Kgorola bana ba gago, dikgang tsa maintenance wa diofisi tsa Tribal ba di fefogele.

Kwa Digawana gone nnyaa, ke sekhuruntlhwanyana fela tota.

Kgosi Kgwakgwe le Kgosi Botika fa ba le mo go yone, ba a hupela.

Ba ne ba re tsweetswee re gogele Mongwato koo ka lebogo gore a tle go bona, kgotsa o kare a le ka kwano, a tlhomoga pelo, a bona gore ba ka atolosa jang gone fa ba nnang teng.
Fa ke le mo go tsa Bogosi ke re, kwa Lorwana ke dumela gore Kgosi Kgwakgwe o tshwere thulaganyo e nngwe ya gore re tle re nne le Kgosana ya Tetlanyo.

A ko go se ka ga nna monama jaaka kwa dikgaolong tsa Maisane le Kopore, tse e leng gore Dikgosana tsa rona tsa Tetlanyo re sale re isitse maina, re emetse gore ba tle ba atswiwe le bone.

Motho le fa a neetswe maikarabelo, ga re a nne le madinyana a molora gore a tsokotse.

Ke raya gore Kgosi Letshabo o sale a nna a nthoma ke boaboa.
A ko le re gadime kwa Molapowabojang.

Fa ke santse ke le kwa Molapowabojang Modulasetilo, go mathata fa go tla go tsena mo kgannyeng ya internal roads.

Molapowabojang ke motse o motona, o na le over 100 years.

Fa o tla go lebelela population, o mo lesameng la Lobatse.

Bontsi jwa batho ba Molapowabojang ba theogelela kwa Lobatse.

Fa o ka lebelela internal roads tsa Molapowabojang, di ngomola pelo ruri.

Dikgang tse a ko o tle o di ele tlhoko.

Ke a itse gore maloba re kgonne go bona golo mo go gopang.
Re tshwere bothata jwa gore go nna go senyega fela.

Ke dumela gore fa o ka bona ditenanyana tse di ka dirang gore go tsamaege sentle, le rona kwa Molapowabojang itsholelo ya motse e ka gola.

Kgang e ya internal roads e tsamaela gone kwa Digawana.
Digawana ke motse o motona o e leng gore o botlhokwa gore tsela e e tswang kwa Nthwalang e feta ka fa morago ga poso jaana e ya kwa Kgotleng ya ga Kgwakgwe, kana e nngwe e e fetang ka fa morago e tsamaya e ya kwa Gopong, fa e ka bona ditena tse, itsholelo ya rona ya Digawana e ka tokafala.

Ditsela tsa kwa Mmathethe le tsone ke mathata.

Go botlhokwa gore internal roads tsa Mmathethe di lebiwe.

E sale ka Dineo ke makotlopo fela, ke dikhuti, ga re kgone go tsamaya.
O fitlhela go le botlhoko fa pula e nele jaana.

Re rwala matsogo mo tlhogong, re ipotsa gore tota gatwe rona re ba ga mang.

Ke go leboge thata gape motlotlegi go bo o ne wa gopola bagolo wa ba latlhelela lemme mo godimo.

Re a sokola kwa kgaolong kwa, fa gongwe Sandulela o a kalela, bagolo ba tlaa bereka go nna ba beile matsogo mo diphatleng.

A ko o rulaganye tlhe Mongwato Sandulela yo fa a tla, a tle ka nako e a tshwanetseng go tla ka yone gore bagolo ba lese go boa kgapetsakgapetsa.
O fitlhela re golegile dikara tsa ditonki re tsile gone koo go tla go tsaya lemmenyana le, e bo le sa goroge ka nako e le tshwanetseng go goroga ka lone.

O rulaganye botoka ka koo Mongwato gore thulaganyo e, e tle e baakanyesege thata.

Go na le kgang e nngwe e o e buileng thata Mongwato ya supplementary feeding.

Ke itumelela ka fa ke bonang o tla ka teng ka yone, segolobogolo e bile o kopa le dithuso mo go United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).

Kgang e ke kgang e tona.


Ka 2019 fa ke le mo Palamenteng, ke ne ka kopa Mapalamente gore a rotlhe re ye go simolola go rotloetsa go jwalwa ga ditlhare tsa maungo tse ke solofelang gore fa re leng teng re setse re jwetse di le dintsinyana.

Re a itse gore kwa dikoleng go jewa maungo.

Ke solofela gore mmu wa rona o tshwana le mebu ya mafatshe a mangwe.
Fa re ka simolola go fefoga, Tona Mzwinila le ene a tla ka thulaganyo ya gore kgotsa jarata nngwe le nngwe e simolole go lema setlhare sa maungo, kwa bofelelong Batswana ba tlaa kgona go tshela tlhabatsi e ya bone ya Value Chain Development ya ga Tautona ya gore kwa bofelelong go nne le sengwe se re se ntshang mo dikgaolong tsa rona ka go farologana.
Fa go na le e nngwe gape e ke eletsang gore re e ele tlhoko mo go yone thulaganyo ya supplementary feeding, ke kgang e nngwe e ke kileng ka e bua go simolola ka 2019 e ke neng ke re we need to decolonise our indigenous vegetables and fruits.

Ga se sephiri gore re a itse gore jaaka re le mo go January le February jaana ke nako ya bo thepe, o a tlhoga o teng.

Re itse gore thepe is a very nutritious vegetable.


Ke ipotsa gore go pala eng gore ka nako e go jewang kwa sekoleng, ka nako e re itseng gore thepe o teng a kgone go jewa kwa dikoleng?

Bangwe ba e leng gore ga ba a lema ba kgone go ya go mo fula a bo re bona gore re dira thulaganyo jang gore ba tle go mo rekisa.
Re a itse gore go na le bo mothwane le moretologa which are indigenous fruits tse e leng gore they have very good nutritional value tse e 37 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply leng gore bangwe ka rona ba ka tsamaya ba ya go di bapala kwa nageng tsa kgona to be availed gore bana ba kgone go tla go di ja mo dikoleng.
E bile golo mo go kgona go rotloetsa gore go nne le a lot of research and development mo go tsone dilo tse gore re bone gore how do we preserve them better e bile tse dingwe tse re di dira jang gore di nne available all year around.
Ke tsaya gore dithulaganyo tse tsotlhe fa re ka di tshwara jaana motlotlegi kwa bofelelong o tlaa bona tlhomo ntsha e Tautona a re e beileng pele, re tlaa kgona go e tshela, mme re tlaa kgona gore gape re batle ditsela tse di farologaneng tsa gore go nne le letseno mo Batswaneng.
Ka gore fa gongwe o ya go fitlhela e le gore fa o sena masimo kwa o ka lemang teng, o sena metsi a gore kgotsa o ka dira backyard gardening, o kgona go itse gore mme fa o tswa kwa Gopong ke nna ke ya kwa dithabeng ke ya go fula mothwane o bo o kgona go tla o tla o jewa kana ke ya moretologeng kana thepe.

A bo e bile re batla le tsela ya gore yone peo e ya thepe re ka e baya jang gore kwa bofelelong e nne nngwe ya tse di tlaa kgonang gore di jewe mo sekoleng.
Ke tsaya gore ke nngwe ya areas tse di nang le so much potential.

E bile gape re tlaabo re lebile thata ka gore ke tsaya gore there is a lot of research e e diragalang on how other products can be added tse e leng gore they can be so much beneficial to both botsogo jwa bana ka dijo tseo.

Le gone gore re kgone gore fa re ntse re ngoka babeeletsi ba kwa bofelong e bo ba kgona gore ba fetlhe ditiro.
Ke dumela gore kwa bofelelong fela fa ke digela Modulasetilo, kgang e ya Village Development Committees (VDCs) Tona Autlwetse, ke kopa o e tseeletse thata.

Go lebaka go ntse go tlhophiwa VDC, dingwaga tse tharo di a feta re tlhopha ba bašha.
Ke kopa gore a ko go nne le proper empowerment ya bangwe ba ba tlhophilweng go etelela VDCs pele ka gore VDCs ke dingwe tsa dikomiti tse di tswang kgakala re itse gore di tshwara madi, but when it comes to empowering them to know gore madi a ka dirisiwa jang, madi a ka bolokwa jang o ya go fitlhela e le gore ngwaga le ngwaga tse tharo fa di fela, go nna go supiwa ba ba neng ba fetile ka monwana fa gore ba jele madi kana go diregile eng.
Ke tsaya gore ke yone tshono gape ka ke utlwa o bua thata ka tlhomo ntšha ya ga Tautona gore a ko le yone re kgone go e tshela mo VDCs go bona gore re nna le pharologano ya tse di tlhophilweng mo ngwageng o gore le bone ba dire dilo tse di tlaa nnang le a proper return on investment.

E seng fela gore ba itse gore ke VDC ba bo ba dirisa madi ka fa a ntseng a dirisiwa ka teng.

Ke re ke arogane le wena tse pedi tse tharo tseo.


Motlotlegi, ke ema nokeng madi a o a neetsweng a le a o a kopang a gore o a rebolelwe rra e tle kwa Mmathethe- Molapowabojang re kgone go tshela ka monyenyo o re diretse tsone tse di re lebaneng.

Ke a leboga.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable for Health, Motlotlegi Minister Mopalamente wa Mmathethe-Molapowabojang.

responsible MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Mma ke go leboge Mr Chairperson.
Le nna ke eme Tona Autlwetse nokeng go bo a re beile dikgang tse pele.

Ke mo ema nokeng mo mading a a kopileng.

Ke batla go simolola fela kgang ya me ka go bua ka Dikgosi le Dikgosana.

Ke re kana Dikgosi le Dikgosana ke batho ba ba dirang tiro e tona fela thata mo lefatsheng le la Botswana.

Mo kgaolong yone e ya Gabane- Mmankgodi e ke e emetseng o fitlhela re na le Dikgosana tse di theogelang mme ga di duelwe kgwedi le kgwedi.
Ke re tota ke lelela mo go Tona gore a ko kgang e jaaka madi a tlaabo a a abelwa jaana ke mo ema nokeng gore madi a a bone, ke re ke a kopa gore a utlwele Dikgosana tse tsa metse e ya rona e ya Mmankgodi, Gabane le bo Metsimotlhabe ba ba theogelang letsatsi le letsatsi ba ya kwa Kgotleng mongwame mme tota ga ba ise ba tsene mo go atswiweng ka sepe.

E bile ba na le dingwaga tota ba le mo tirong e. Tota ke sone selelo sa me sa ntlha mongwame gore ba utlwele botloko.
Fela gongwe ke batla go akgela mo temaneng ya gago ya Social Upliftment.

Ke batla go lemoga Mme Pinkie Monageng-Matsheka wa Monax Shelter for Hope kwa motseng wa Metsimotlhabe.

Mme yo ke mme yo o tlhokomelang bagodi le banana, letsatsi le letsatsi o a ba apeela.

O dira tiro e tona fela thata.

Honourable Minister, tota ke re tota le ene e re jaaka fa re tlaabo re neelwa madi jaana re mo akanyetse gore re ka mo thusa.

O a tsamaya, tota o a dikologa mo a kopa.


Gompieno o tshwanetse a bo a setse a na le bagodi fela letsatsi le letsatsi ba feta bo 200 ba a ba apeelang.

O kopile donations tsa gore ba kgone go bona bomaterase go itapolosa, ba tlhola koo ba a itapolosa.

Fela ke re Mma Monageng-Matsheka ke mme yo o berekang fela thata.

E bile le gompieno jaana ke ne ke santse ke mo kwalela lekwalo la gore tota gongwe a fiwe setsha a kgone gore a atolose madirelo a a gagwe a, fa a berekelang teng.
Honourable Minister Kgotla Autlwetse, mma rraetsho ke boe gape ke go leboge gore kana tota le fa go le thata o kgonne gore o re o tlaa okeletsa ba VDC, World War Veterans, Old Age Pensioners le ba bangwe ka madi a 38 Hansard No 205Monday 7th March, 2022ORGANISATION 0800 – MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENTCommittee of Supply thata.

Ke re, kana mo metseng nako e nngwe re santse re bona re na le pit latrines, mme re a itse gore malwetse a gaketse.
Ke re a re lekeng thata gore re oketse flushing toilets mo dikoleng, systems di bereke, re lese go bona re santse re kgona gore re bana... MR SPEAKER (MR MOATLHODI): Order!

Order!

Honourable Minister.

MR MMUSI: Oh!

Thank you Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: E tshware jalo Tshwene.

MR MMUSI: Tanki, Rotwe.

MR SPEAKER: E tshware jalo Rotwe.

E tlaare kamoso ke tlaa go fa sebaka gore o tswelele o bue ka bo Fikeng.

MR MMUSI: Tanki Rotwe, tanki.


MR SPEAKER: As it is now 6 o’clock I shall now call upon His Honour the Vice President the Honourable Leader of this House to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mma ke tseye sebaka se ke kope batlotlegi gore ba letle gore dipuisanyo tsa letsatsi leno di wele gone fa.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Question put and agreed to.


The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:02 p.m. until Tuesday 8th March, 2022 at 11:00 a.m. P100.00.

Ke a itse gore go thata mme fela gone madi a P100.00 rra ke itse gore a tlaa ba tlodisa melatswana, a tlaa re isa golo gongwe.

Re a go leboga gore le mo dinakong tse di thata tse o kgonne gore o ba latlhelele sengwenyana.

Ke re a e re re ntse re ya kwa pele re nne re latlhelele bagodi or bone batho ba madinyana a a botoka re leke gore re ba okeletse.
Re a itse gore ke dinako tse di thata mme gongwe mo dingwageng tse di tlang rraetsho o leke gore o ba okeletse go nne botokanyana.

Ke batla go tsena mo primary schools mo kgaolong yone e ya me ya Gabane-Mmankgodi.

Ke re rraetsho re lebogile gore ke bone fa le ne la dumalana gore le tlaa re agela primary school kwa Mogoditshane Block 9 mo kgaolong ya Diagane.
Ke re rraetsho a re dire gore re itlhaganele sekole se se eme ka dinao batho ba Mogoditshane Block 9 ba Diagane ba ntse ba tsamaela kgakala, bana ba tsamaela kgakala mme re a itse gore kana gompieno matshelo a a tura.

Fa o tsaya bana phakela o ba isa sekoleng kgakala go a tura, petrol, go hirwa combis, sengwe le sengwe se a tura.

Mongwame ke ne ke ka leboga thata fa ne sekole sa Mogoditshane Block 9 sa Diagane se ka simololwa ka pela sa bo sa fela mo nakong e e sa fediseng pelo.
Fela ke batla go boa ke tsena ke itse gore madi ka bontsi a tlaa tsena mo maintenance ya dikole.

Rona rra re na le dikole mo Kgaolong ya Gabane-Mmankgodi tse eleng gore hei!

Di na le dingwaga di sa bone maintenance, di sa dirwe sepe.

Fa o tsaya sekole se tshwana le Letlole Primary School ke sekole fela se se nang le lebaka without maintenance.

E bile kana fa go senang dikago tse di siameng sentle, o eta o bona e bile maduo a dikole tota a wela kwa tlase.
Go na le tse dingwe tse e leng gore le tsone, jaaka bo Mokolodi Primary School…motse ole wa Mokolodi o a gola, mme re ne re kopa gore gongwe le re akanyetse le re tsenyetse classrooms kwa Mokolodi Primary School, ka gore metse ya bo Mokolodi e a gola.

E ne e tlhokana le gore e ka tsenyediwa classrooms.

Ke batla go tsena mo motseng o tshwana le Fikeng jaana, bana ba tswa fela kwa motseng wa Fikeng ba ya kwa Mmakgodi ba ya kwa sekoleng.
Re a bona gore mariga a a tsena, bana ba tsamaya go le lefifi ba tsamaya kilometres tse di fetang bo 10,12, rraetsho, ba a sotlega.

Ke ne ke re gongwe le re akanyetse kwa Fikeng, le simolole go re tsenyetsa…fa le ne le ka re tsenyetsa classrooms tsa ba ba kwa tlase, gongwe di le pedi la nna ngwaga le ngwaga la nna la re tsenyetsa classes jaana, go ka nna botoka, go ka thusa bana ba.
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