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5 Monday 6th July, 1964 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES) ft OFFICIAL REPORT CONTENTS ADMINISTRATION OF OATH [Col. 6171 ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR SPEAKER— The Yang di-Pertuan Agong's Reply to Address of Thanks [Col. 618] ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 619] STATEMENT BY THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER— Failure of the Summit Talks in Tokyo [Col. 638] BILLS PRESENTED [Col. 652] MOTIONS— Parliament (Members Remuneration) Act (No.
4 of 1960) [Col. 654] Income Tax Ordinance, 1947—Amendment to First Schedule (the National Art Gallery) [Col. 657] Income Tax Ordinance, 1947—Amendment to First Schedule (Malayan Muslim Pilgrims Savings Corporation) [658] Financial Procedure Ordinance, 1957—Amend ment to Second Schedule (Sarawak Refri gerator Advance Fund) [Col. 659] Customs Duties (Amendment No.

8) Order, 1963 [Col. 661] Customs Duties (Amendment) Order, 1964 [Col. 662] Customs Duties (Amendment No.
2) Order, 1964 [Col. 663] Customs Duties (Amendment No.

3) Order, 1964 [Col. 664] Customs Duties (Amendment No.

4) Order, 1964 [Col. 668] Customs Duties (Amendment No.

5) Order, 1964 [Col. 669] MALAYAN RAILWAY: Conversion of Rehabilitation Loans into Equity Investment [Col. 679] Development (Supplementary) mates, 1963 [Col. 682] (No.
4) Esti Committee: Head 103 [Col. 685] Head 118 [Col. 686] Head 126 [Col. 687] Heads 138 and 144 [Col. 687] Head 149 [Col. 689] Head 152 [Col. 690] Development (Supplementary) mates, 1964 [Col. 692] (No.
1) Esti ADJOURNMENT SPEECHES: "PATENT RIGHTS" DAN HARGA UBAT2 [Col. 723] LADY TEMPLER HOSPITAL, KUALA LUMPUR (INCREASED FINANCIAL AS SISTANCE) [Col. 728] WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 733] DI-CHETAK DI-JABATAN CHETAK KERAJAAN OLEH THOR BENG CHONG, A.M.N., PENCHETAK KERAJAAN KUALA LUMPUR 1965 MALAYSIA DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES) Official Report First Session of the Second Dewan Ra'ayat Monday, 6th July, 1964 The House met at Ten o'clock a.m.
PRESENT: The Honourable Mr Speaker, TUAN SYED ESA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N., S.M.J., P.I.S.

„ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ (Batu Pahat Dalam).

the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence, Minister of National and Rural Development and Minister of Lands and Mines, TUN HAJI ABDUL RAZAK BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N.

(Pekan).

the Minister of Home Affairs and Minister of Justice, DATO' DR ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N.

(Johor Timor).

the Minister of Finance, ENCHE' TAN SIEW SIN, J.P. (Melaka Tengah).
the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications, DATO' V. T. SAMBANTHAN, P.M.N.

(Sungei Siput).

the Minister of Transport, DATO' HAJI SARDON BIN HAJI JUBIR, P.M.N.

(Pontian Utara).

the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, ENCHE' MOHAMED KHIR JOHARI (Kedah Tengah).

the Minister of Health, ENCHE' BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah).

the Minister of Education, ENCHE' ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI TALIB (Kuantan).

the Minister of Commerce and Industry, DR LIM SWEE AUN, J.P. (Larut Selatan).
the Minister for Welfare Services, TUAN HAJI ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAJI SAKHAWAT ALI KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang).

the Minister for Local Government and Housing, ENCHE' KHAW KAI-BOH, P.J.K.

(Ulu Selangor).

the Minister for Sarawak Affairs, DATO' TEMENGGONG JUGAH ANAK BARIENG, P.M.N., P.D.K.

(Sarawak).

the Assistant Minister of Commerce and Industry, TUAN HAJI ABDUL KHALID BIN AWANG OSMAN (Kota Star Utara).
the Assistant Minister of Lands and Mines, ENCHE' MOHAMED GHAZALI BIN HAJI JAWI (Ulu Perak).

611 6 JULY 1964 612 The Honourable the Assistant Minister of National and Rural Development and Assistant Minister of Justice, ENCHE' ABDUL-RAHMAN BIN YA'KUB (Sarawak).

the Assistant Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, ENCHE' SULAIMAN BIN BULON (Bagan Datoh).

the Assistant Minister of Youth Culture and Sports, ENGKU MUHSEIN BIN ABDUL KADIR (Trengganu Tengah).
the Assistant Minister of Education, ENCHE' LEE SIOK YEW, A.M.N., P.J.K.

(Sepang).

ENCHE' ABDUL GHANI BIN ISHAK, A.M.N.

(Melaka Utara).

ENCHE' ABDUL KARIM BIN ABU, A.M.N.

(Melaka Selatan).

WAN ABDUL KADIR BIN ISMAIL (Kuala Trengganu Utara).

ENCHE' ABDUL RAHIM ISHAK (Singapore).

WAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN DATU TUANKU BUJANG (Sarawak).

TUAN HAJI ABDUL RASHID BIN HAJI JAIS (Sabah).

ENCHE' ABDUL RAUF BIN A. RAHMAN, K.M.N., P.J.K.

(Krian Laut).

ENCHE' ABDUL RAZAK BIN HAJI HUSSIN (Lipis).


ENCHE' ABDUL SAMAD BIN G UL AHMAD MIANJI (Pasir Mas Hulu).

DATO' ABDULLAH BIN ABDULRAHMAN, Dato' Bijaya di-Raja (Kuala Trengganu Selatan).

Y.A.M.

TUNKU ABDULLAH IBNI AL-MARHUM TUANKU ABDUL RAHMAN, P.P.T.

(Rawang).

TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI MOHD.

SALLEH, A.M.N., S.M.J., P.I.S.

(Segamat Utara).

ENCHE' A BU BAKAR BIN HAMZAH (Bachok).

TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN ABDULLAH (Kelantan Hilir).

ENCHE' AHMAD BIN ARSHAD, A.M.N.

(Muar Utara).


TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN SAAID (Seberang Utara).

CHE' AJIBAH BINTI ABOL (Sarawak).

ENCHE' A LI BIN HAJI AHMAD (Pontian Selatan).

O.K.K.

DATU ALIUDDIN BIN DATU HARUN, P.D.K.

(Sabah).

DR AWANG BIN HASSAN, S.M.J.

(Muar Selatan).

ENCHE' AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam).

ENCHE' JONATHAN BANGAU ANAK RENANG (Sarawak).

PENGARAH BANYANG ANAK JANTING (Sarawak).

ENCHE' CHAN CHONG WEN, A.M.N.

(Kluang Selatan).

ENCHE' CHAN SEONG YOON (Setapak).


ENCHE' CHAN SIANG SUN (Bentong).

ENCHE' CHEN WING SUM (Damansara).

ENCHE' CHIA CHIN SHIN (Sarawak).

ENCHE' FRANCIS CHIA NYUK TONG (Sabah).

ENCHE' CHIA THYE POH (Singapore).

ENCHE' CHIN FOON (Ulu Kinta).

ENCHE' C. V. DEVAN NAIR (Bungsar).

ENCHE' EDWIN ANAK TANGKUN (Sarawak).

„ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ „ 613 6 JULY 1964 614 The Honourable DATIN FATIMAH BINTI HAJI ABDUL MAJID (Johore Bahru Timor).

DATIN FATIMAH BINTI HAJI HASHIM, P.M.N.


(Jitra-Padang Terap).

ENCHE' S. FAZUL RAHMAN, A.D.K.

(Sabah); DATU GANIE GILONG, P.D.K., J.P. (Sabah).

„ ENCHE' GANING BIN JANGKAT (Sabah).

„ „ „ „ „ „ ENCHE' GEH CHONG KEAT, K.M.N.

(Penang Utara).

ENCHE' HAMZAH BIN ALANG, A.M.N.

(Kapar).

ENCHE' HANAFI BIN MOHD.

YUNUS, A.M.N.

(Kulim Utara).

ENCHE' HANAFIAH BIN HUSSAIN A.M.N.

(Jerai).

ENCHE' HARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N.

(Baling).

WAN HASSAN BIN WAN DAUD (Tumpat).

ENCHE' HO SEE BENG (Singapore).


ENCHE' STANLEY HO NGUN KHIU, A.D.K.

(Sabah).

ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN T O' MUDA HASSAN, A.M.N.

(Raub).

ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN MOHD.

NOORDIN, A.M.N., P.J.K.

(Parit).

ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN SULAIMAN (Ulu Kelantan).

TUAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN HAJI SAMAN (Kota Bharu Hulu).

ENCHE' IKHWAN ZAINI (Sarawak).

ENCHE' IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Seberang Tengah).

DATO' SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALBAR, P.M.N.

(Johor Tenggara).

PENGHULU JINGGUT ANAK ATTAN (Sarawak).


ENCHE' KADAM ANAK KIAI (Sarawak).

ENCHE' KAM WOON WAH, J.P. (Sitiawan).

ENCHE' KHOO PENG LOONG (Sarawak).

DATU KHOO SIAK CHIEW, P.D.K.

(Sabah).

ENCHE' K OW KEE SENG (Singapore).

ENCHE' EDMUND LANGGU ANAK SAGA (Sarawak).

ENCHE' LEE SAN CHOON, K.M.N.

(Segamat Selatan).

ENCHE' LEE SECK FUN (Tanjong Malim).

ENCHE' AMADEUS MATHEW LEONG, A.D.K.

(Sabah).

ENCHE' LING BENG SIEW (Sarawak).

ENCHE' LIM HUAN BOON (Singapore).

ENCHE' LIM PEE HUNG (Alor Star).


DR MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMAD (Kota Star Selatan).

ENCHE' T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.P. (Port Dickson).

ENCHE' JOE MANJAJI (Sabah).

DR HAJI MEGAT KHAS, J.P., P.J.K.

(Kuala Kangsar).

ENCHE' MOHD.

ARIF SALLEH, A.D.K.

(Sabah).

ORANG TUA MOHAMMAD DARA BIN LANGPAD (Sabah).

ENCHE' MOHD.

DAUD BIN ABDUL SAMAD (Besut).

ENCHE' MOHAMED IDRIS BIN MATSIL, J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Jelebu-Jempol).

615 6 JULY 1964 616 The Honourable ENCHE' MOHAMED NOORDIN BIN MASTAN, A.M.N., P.J.K.
(Seberang Selatan).

ENCHE' MOHD.

TAHIR BIN ABDUL MAJID, S.M.S., P.J.K.

(Kuala Langat).

ENCHE' MOHAMED YUSOF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N.

(Temerloh).

ENCHE' MOHD.

ZAHIR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Sungei Patani).

WAN MOKHTAR BIN AHMAD (Kemaman).

TUAN HAJI MOKHTAR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan).

ENCHE' MUHAMMAD FAKHRUDDIN BIN HAJI ABDULLAH (Pasir Mas Hilir).

TUAN HAJI MUHAMMAD SU'AUT BIN HAJI MUHD.

TAHIR (Sarawak).

DATO' HAJI MUSTAPHA BIN HAJI ABDUL JABAR, D.P.M.S., A.M.N., J.P. (Sabak Bernam).
ENCHE' MUSTAPHA BIN AHMAD (Tanah Merah).

ENCHE' NG FAH YAM (Batu Gajah).

DR NG KAM POH, J.P. (Telok Anson).

ENCHE' ONG KEE H UI (Sarawak).

TUAN HAJI OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Hilir Perak).

ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N.

(Perlis Utara).

ABANG OTHMAN BIN HAJI MOASILI (Sarawak).

ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN WOK (Singapore).

ENCHE' QUEK KAI DONG, J.P. (Seremban Timor).

TUAN HAJI RAHMAT BIN HAJI DAUD, A.M.N.

(Johore Bahru Barat).

ENCHE' RAMLI BIN OMAR (Krian Darat).

TUAN HAJI REDZA BIN HAJI MOHD.

SAID, P J .


K ., J.P. (Rembau-Tampin).

RAJA ROME BIN RAJA MA'AMOR (Kuala Selangor).

ENCHE' SANDOM ANAK NYUAK (Sarawak).

ENCHE' SEAH TENG NGIAB, P.I.S.

(Muar Pantai).

ENCHE' D. R. SEENIVASAGAM (Ipoh).

ENCHE' S. P. SEENIVASAGAM (Menglembu).

ENCHE' SIM BOON LIANG (Sarawak).

ENCHE' SIOW LOONG HIN, P J .

K. (Seremban Barat).

ENCHE' SNG CHIN JOO (Sarawak).

ENCHE' SOH AH TECK (Batu Pahat).

DATU DONALD ALOYSIUS STEPHENS, P.D.K.

(Sabah).


ENCHE' SULEIMAN BIN ALI (Dungun).

PENGIRAN TAHIR PETRA (Sabah).

ENCHE' TAJUDIN BIN ALI, P J .

K. (Larut Utara).

ENCHE' TAI KUAN YANG (Kulim-Bandar Bharu).

ENCHE' TAMA WENG TINGGANG WAN (Sarawak).

DR TAN CHEE KHOON (Batu).

ENCHE' TAN CHENG BEE, J.P. (Bagan).

ENCHE' TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Melaka).

„ „ „ „ „ „ 617 6 JULY 1964 618 The Honourable ENCHE' TAN TSAK YU (Sarawak).

„ „ „ „ ENCHE' TIAH ENG BEE (Kluang Utara).

DR TOH CHIN CHYE (Singapore).


ENCHE' TOH THEAM HOCK (Kampar).

PENGHULU FRANCIS UMPAU ANAK EMPAM (Sarawak).

ENCHE' YEH PAO TZE (Sabah).

ENCHE' YEOH TAT BENG (Bruas).

ENCHE' STEPHEN YONG KUET TZE (Sarawak).

TUAN HAJI ZAKARIA BIN HAJI MOHD.

TAIB (Langat).

ABSENT: The Honourable the Prime Minister, Minister of External Affairs and Minister „ „ „ „ „ „ of Youth, Culture and Sports, Y.T.M.

TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN PUTRA AL-HAJ, K.O.M.

(Kuala Kedah).
(Kuala Kedah).

the Minister of Labour, ENCHE' V. MANICKAVASAGAM, J.M.N., P.J.K.

(Klang).

the Minister of Information and Broadcasting, ENCHE' SENU BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Kubang Pasu Barat).

DR G OH KENG SWEE (Singapore).

ENCHE' ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Penang Selatan).

ENCHE' JEK YEUN THONG (Singapore).

ENCHE' LEE KUAN YEW (Singapore).

DR LIM CHONG EU (Tanjong).

ENCHE' LIM KEAN SIEW (Dato Kramat).

DATO' LIM KIM SAN, D.U.T.

(Singapore).

ENCHE' PETER LO Su YIN (Sabah).


ENCHE' MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA (Pasir Puteh).

DATO' N IK AHMED KAMIL, D.K., S.P.M.K., S.M.J.K., P.M.N., P.Y.G.P., Dato' Sri Setia Raja (Kota Bharu Hilir).

ENCHE' ONG PANG BOON (Singapore).

ENCHE' S. RAJARATNAM (Singapore).

ENCHE' TAN TOH HONG (Bukit Bintang).

ENCHE' WEE TOON BOON (Singapore).

ENCHE' YONG NYUK LIN (Singapore).


PRAYERS (Mr Speaker in the Chair) ADMINISTRATION OF OATH following Members made and The subscribed the Affirmation required by Law: Enche' Mohamed Khir bin Johari.

Enche' Abu Bakar bin Hamzah.

Enche' Tama Weng Tinggang Wan.

ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR SPEAKER YANG THE DI-PERTUAN AGONG'S REPLY TO ADDRESS OF THANKS Mr Speaker: Ahli2 Yang Berhormat, saya ma'alumkan bahawa saya telah menerima suatu perutusan daripada Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka di-Pertuan Agong.
Baginda Yang 619 6 JULY 1964 620 Sekarang saya bachakan perutusan Duli Yang Maha Mulia itu: "KAULUHUL HAK, Warkatul-ikhlas walmuhibbah ia-itu daripada Beta Syed Putra ibni Al-marhum Syed Hassan Jamalullail, Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Malaysia.
Mudah-mudahan barang di- wasalkan oleh Rabbul 'alamin Yang Berhormat Tuan Haji Syed Esa bin Alwee, J.M.N., S.M.J., P.I.S., Yang di-Pertua Dewan Ra'ayat Malaysia, yang ada beristirahatul- khir pada masa ini di-bandar Kuala Lumpur, dengan beberapa selamat dan kesejahteraan-nya.
Waba'adah, ehwal Beta sangat2 sukachita menerima warkah tuan yang bertarikh pada 27 haribulan Mei tahun 1964, kerana menyam- paikan ketetapan uchapan terima kaseh Majlis Dewan Ra'ayat Malaysia, kerana Titah Uchapan Beta pada masa membukakan Penggal Pertama Parlimen Yang Kedua.
Beta minta kelapangan tuan apa-lah juga kira-nya tuan menyampaikan terima kaseh Beta sakalian Ahli2 Majlis kapada Dewan Ra'ayat Malaysia kerana membuat ketetapan yang tersebut, dan juga di-atas perasaan yang tulus ikhlas yang telah di-tunjok- kan kapada Beta itu akan di- kandongkan dalam ingatan Beta sa-lama2-nya.

Demikian-lah Beta ma'alumkan di-sudahi dengan sa- lam ta'zim jua, ada-nya.

sahaja Termaktub pada 30 haribulan Jun tahun 1964."
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS MEMBERSHIP OF INSTITUTION OF ENGINEERS (PREREQUISITE FOR EMPLOYMENT IN PUBLIC SERVICE) 1.

Dr Toh Chin Chye (Singapore) asks the Prime Minister whether member ship of the Institution of Engineers, which is a private association and does not represent engineers all over Malay sia, is a prerequisite for engineers who wish to be employed in the public service.
The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun Haji Abdul Razak bin Dato' Hussain): Sir, if the Honourable Member refers to the Institution of Engineers (Fede ration of Malaya), then membership of this Institution has not been recog nised yet as a qualification for appoint ment as Engineers.

In any event, Sir, corporate membership of the Institu tion of Civil, Electrical or Mechanical Engineers is not a prerequisite for engineers who wish to be employed in the public service.

EMPLOYMENT OF NON-CITIZENS IN MALAYA 2.


Enche' Kam Woon Wah (Sitiawan) asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state the number of non-citizens who have been allowed into Malaya to work in (a) the planting industry, (b) the legal and technical firms, in the last five years.

The Minister of Home Affairs (Dato' Dr Ismail bin Dato' Haji Abdul Rahman): Sir, the answer is: (i) Planting Industry—227 planters of whom 36 have left, thus leaving 191.
(ii) Legal Firms—3 experienced barristers qualified for enrolment as Advocates and Solicitors under the Advocates and Solicitors Ordinance, 1947. is not clearly (iii) Technical Firms—It the term "technical understood what to cover, and it is firms" is meant it means persons in assumed that possession of technical qualifications, e.g., engineers, etc.

690 engineers, of whom 119 have left the country.


This figure includes mining engineers, con civil struction engineers, electrical and mechanical engineers, who are mainly employed by established and reputable engineering firms and consultants, who have been awarded contracts for major construc tion works such as the C.E.B.

Hydro Electrical Schemes, North Klang Straits project, New Airport, new teaching Hospital and other major Government building projects.

engineers, engineers 3.


Enche' Kam Woon Wah asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state whether it is a fact that a number of non-citizens who have been admitted into Malaya to work do not possess any special skill or qualification and if 621 6 JULY 1964 622 so, whether Government to take steps to terminate their stay in Malaya.

intends Dato' Dr Ismail: No.

No non-citizens without special skill or qualification has been granted Employment Passes.
MENGHAPUSKAN ANASIR2 GERAKAN SULIT KOMINIS DI-SEKOLAH2 DI-SARAWAK 4.

Enche' Tan Tsak Yu (Sarawak) ber- tanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran apa langkah2 yang telah atau sedang di- jalankan oleh Kerajaan Pusat untok menghapuskan anasir2 Gerakan Sulit Kominis (Communist Clandestine Orga nisation) daripada sekolah2 di-Sarawak.

The Minister of Education (Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib): Segala langkah untok sedang di-jalankan menghapuskan anasir2 Gerakan Sulit Kominis daripada sekolah2 di-Sarawak.
Langkah2 yang telah di-ambil ada-lah saperti menempatkan guru2 latehan tempatan, pengubahan sekolah2 meng- ikut chorak dan sistem yang di-akui, dan menjalankan peratoran umor atas kanak2 yang masok sekolah, dengan chara yang demikian budak2 yang lebeh umor akan tersekat daripada masok belajar di-sekolah.

Kawalan yang lebeh ketat berkenaan pendaf- lantekan penyelia dan taran guru, pengurus kaki-tangan sekolah telah dan maseh di-jalankan.
Lain2 chara akan di-timbang dan di- adakan apabila di-fikirkan mustahak.

lain2 juga Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah (Kelantan Hilir): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, boleh-kah saya mendapat satu jawapan daripada Yang Berhormat Menteri Pelajaran, ada-kah menjadi satu soalan yang akan di- timbangkan ia-itu Nanyang University ada-kah hendak di-batalkan atau tidak sa-bagaimana yang telah di-minta oleh UMNO Singapura?
bahawa sa-nya Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, soalan tidak ada kait-mengait dengan itu soalan ini.

BUKU2 PELAJARAN BAGI SEKO LAH2 MENENGAH DI-SARAWAK 5.

Enche' Tan Tsak Yu bertanya ka pada Menteri Pelajaran ada-kah buku2 pelajaran yang sesuai akan di-keluar- kan untok menepati kehendak sukatan pelajaran yang baharu di-adakan se- menjak 1 haribulan Januari, 1964 yang lepas untok Sekolah2 Menengah di- Sarawak, dan jika ya, bila-kah buku2 tersebut boleh di-adakan di-sekolah2 itu.
sukatan pelajaran Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Buku2 teks yang sesuai dan yang menepati kehendak2 yang baharu telah pun di-adakan bagi me- tiap2 mata-pelajaran.

Sa-lain ngajar daripada itu banyak panduan mengajar dan alat2 pengajaran telah di-berikan sekolah2 menengah.

Untok kapada lain2 mata-pelajaran buku2 sedang di- sediakan dengan chara menulis buku2 yang baharu atau pun dengan chara mensesuaikan yang telah ada.
Segala usaha akan di-buat untok mengadakan buku2 ini dengan sa-berapa segera yang boleh.

UMOR BERSARA BAGI GURU2 DI-SARAWAK 6.

Enche9 Tan Tsak Yu bertanya ka pada Menteri Pelajaran, ia-itu meman- dang kapada kemungkinan hendak di-adakan persekolahan perchuma di- sekolah2 rendah di-Sarawak, ada-kah Kerajaan akan menimbangkan umor bersara guru2 di-naikkan sampai 60 tahun, supaya melegakan keadaan ke- kurangan guru2 di-negeri Sarawak.
Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Kerajaan akan menimbang menaikkan umor guru2 bersara ka- enam puloh jikalau di-fikirkan musta hak di-buat demikian apabila per sekolahan rendah perchuma di-adakan di-Sarawak.

PERIODICAL REVISION OF ELECTORAL REGISTERS 7.

Dr Toh Chin Chye asks the Prime Minister what steps are being taken by the Election Commission to revise the electoral registers periodically.

Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, the electoral rolls are revised annually.
This is a statutory requirement under the law, namely, the Elections (Regis tration of Electors) Regulations, 1958.

623 6 JULY 1964 624 Dr Toh Chin Chye: Could the acting Prime Minister indicate to the House whether there is a period by which electoral registers will have been revised in the year; and whether after these electoral registers will revision leaders of parties to be submitted present in this House for scrutiny?

the Registering Officer Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Yes, Sir.
Every year from 1st September to 12th October (a period of 42 days) every person who is qualified and desires to be registered as an elector may do so with in his particular area.

Also, during the same to period, any person who wishes change his constituency is permissible to do so.

These registers are open for inspection by members of the public, and only after the period of inspection registers be has finalised.
lapsed will the Enche' Stephen Yong Kuet Tze (Sarawak): Sir, could the Deputy Prime Minister indicate when will the Elec tion Commission start work in Sara wak and Sabah?

Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, that is a separate question, but I can answer the Honourable Member.

It the intention of the Election Commission to start work in Sarawak and Sabah as soon as possible.

is Dr Toh Chin Chye: Sir, will the Government consider making auto matic registration for all those who have the franchise?
This, I believe, will assist considerably in the admi nistration of the registers.

revision of the Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, I would like to look into this matter.

of misunderstanding Enche9 D. R. Seenivasagam (Ipoh): Mr Speaker, Sir, is the Government aware that, during this revision period, names which appeared on the registers in previous years had been removed because by workers sent round by the Election Commission in that if they did not find the man in the house they struck out his name?
Hundreds of thousands of names were so struck off.

Is the Government aware of that?

May we know whether any steps are being taken to see that this sort of thing does not happen in the future?

Tun Haji Abdul Razak: The Government, Sir, has heard of a few instances quoted by the Honourable the Government has Member, and informed the Election Commission.
But I must say, Sir, that it is the responsibility of the members of the public as well as political parties, when the registers are open for inspec tion—that is from 1st January to 28th January, a period of 28 days—to see that their names are properly registered in the registers.

Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Are the registers of finally revised after the period of objections and claims are over, on sale to the public?

electors, when Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, I need notice of this question.
RANCHANGAN2 KEBAJIKAN MUSHARAKAT AKAN DI-ADA- KAN DI-SINGAPURA, SARAWAK DAN SABAH 8.

Enche' Othman bin Wok (Sing apore) bertanya kapada Menteri Ke ranchangan2 bajikan 'Am apa dia akan yang Kebajikan Musharakat di-adakan di-Singapura, Sarawak dan Sabah sa-bagaimana yang di-sebutkan dalam Tambahan Khas kapada Titah Uchapan di-Raja yang di-keluarkan pada 19 haribulan Mei 1964 dan bila-kah ini akan di- laksanakan.
ranchangan2 Perlembagaan The Minister for Welfare Services (Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Ahli Yang Berhormat itu tentu sedar ia-itu mengikut kuat- kuasa Persekutuan Tanah Melayu saperti yang di-pinda oleh Undang2 Malaysia, tanggong- jawab Kerajaan Pusat pada masa ini berhubong dengan Kebajikan Musha rakat ada-lah terbatas kapada Rumah2 dan Yayasan2 Akhlak, Asrama2 dan Tempat2 Tahanan, Penyeliaan Orang salah dan budak2 yang bersalah.
Ranchangan2 yang di-sebutkan dalam Hujongan Khas kapada Titah di-Raja itu ada-lah berkait dengan perkara2 ini.

Di-Sarawak perkhidmatan2 yang terhad dan ada-lah ada sekarang 625 6 JULY 1964 626 saya, keadaan-nya bagitu jua di-Negeri kerana Sabah.

Kementerian sedarkan tanggong-jawab-nya terhadap perkara2 ini, sedang menyusun ran- changan2 untok membaiki perkhid- matan2 ini di-Sabah dan Sarawak.
ia-itu juga Molek Kerajaan2 Negeri Sabah dan Sarawak telah pun membuat permintaan2 yang tertentu kapada Kementerian saya lagi perkHidmatan2 untok membaiki yang ada sekarang ini.

terangkan saya dan Jagaan Di-Singapura nampak-nya tanggong- jawab Kerajaan Pusat ada-lah terhad pada masa ini kapada Perkhidmatan2 Penyeliaan Lanjutan (Probation and After-care Services).
Sunggoh pun bagitu ada-lah di-fikirkan ia-itu perkhidmatan2 yang ada se karang berhubong dengan perkara2 yang tersebut, termasok-lah kemudah- an2 Asrama dan Tempat2 Tahanan, maseh boleh di-perbaiki lagi dan Kementerian akan membuat chadangan2 kapada Kerajaan Singapura berhubong dengan perkara2 ini dalam sadikit masa lagi.
saya itu tersebut, perkara2 Ahli Yang Berhormat tentu ia-itu oleh sebab ranchangan2 sedar Pemulehan Akhlak bagi budak2 dan orang muda yang di-anggap bersalah ada-lah menjadi tanggong-jawab Kera jaan Pusat.

amat-lah mustahak kita mempunyai undang2 yang sama yang meliputi tidak saperti keadaan sekarang dalam mana negeri2 mempunyai undang2-nya yang berlainan.
Oleh itu Kementerian saya telah pun menggubal sa-buah Rang Undang2 yang di-namakan "Undang2 Mahkamah Budak2" (Juvenile Courts Ordinance) yang menentukan chara2 penangkapan, tahanan, perbicharaan dan hukuman ka-atas budak2 yang bersalah.

Rang Undang2 ini sedang di-kaji oleh Jabatan Undang2 dan akan di-edarkan kapada Kerajaan2 Negeri Singapura, Sabah dan Sarawak untok ulasan mereka dalam sadikit masa lagi.
bilangan (a) orang Melayu, (b) orang India, (c) orang China, (d) orang2 lain bangsa, di-Tanah Melayu yang men- dapat bantuan wang daripada Kebaji kan Musharakat, jumlah bantuan di-beri tiap2 bulan dan apa sharat2 yang melayakkan orang boleh dapat bantuan wang daripada Kebaji kan Musharakat.
berapa Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, perkara bantuan wang (atau pun mengikut istilah-nya yang betul Bantuan 'Am) kapada orang2 yang berkeperluan sa-benar-nya ada-lah menjadi tanggong-jawab Kera jaan Negeri mengikut Perlembagaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu saperti yang di-pinda oleh Undang2 Malaysia.

Oleh itu perkara2 yang sa-umpama ini ada-lah luar daripada batasan Dewan dasar ini.

Ada-lah juga menjadi apa2 Kerajaan tidak memberikan kenyataan mengikut per- garisan sebab Ahli Yang kauman.
Oleh Berhormat telah membangkitkan itu perkara ini, saya chuma suka mengata- kan ia-itu mengikut kenyataan yang di-beri oleh negeri2 dalam Tanah tiap2 Melayu, bayaran yang di-buat bulan pukul rata dalam masa 5 bulan ini berhubong tahun yang pertama dengan Bantuan 'Am ada-lah saperti berikut: BAYARAN YANG DI-BUAT DALAM SA-BULAN Negeri Jumlah wang yang di-belan- .1 jakan sa-bulan Bilangan keluarga yang menerima bantuan Johor Negeri Sembilan .. Melaka Selangor Perak Kedah Pulau Pinang Perlis Kelantan Trengganu Pahang .
$ 53,380.66 7,283.00 5,045.22 20,184.80 49,345.03 7,850.53 9,406.23 3,539.17 4,909.00 7,637.28 8,197.00 ... 3,620 780 296 1,241 , 2,742 503 747 198 448 343 617 Jumlah Besar .. .

$176,777.92 11,533 BANTUAN WANG DARIPADA KEBAJIKAN MUSHARAKAT BAGI PENDUDOK2 BERBAGAI2 BANGS A DI-MALAYA 9.
Enche' Othman bin Wok bertanya kapada Menteri Kebajikan 'Am berapa tidak Tetapi angka2 termasok ini bantuan2 wang yang lain yang di-beri dalam masa2 kechemasan saperti ke- bakaran, ayer bah, ribut, kemarau dan tanaman bantut.

Sa-lain daripada ini.

627 6 JULY 1964 628 pertubohan2 sukarela saperti Jawatan- kuasa Kebajikan Negeri2 dan Per- satuan Menchegah Batok Kering juga ada memberi bantuan wang kapada orang2 yang berkeperluan.

Badan2 ini menerima bantuan pertolongan dari- pada Kerajaan Pusat.
Dalam tahun 1963 sa-jumlah lebeh kurang $1,33140 telah di-belanjakan oleh kedua2 per tubohan ini.

'Am Ranchangan Bantuan ini ada-lah bertujuan untok menolong sa-saorang dan sa-sabuah keluarga bagi memenohi keperluan mereka dan mengatasi masaalah2 yang di-hadapi tindakan bersepakat dengan chara untok membaiki kedudokan ekojiomi dan kebajikan mereka.
Bantuan yang sa-umpama ini ada-lah sentiasa ter- sharat kapada keperluan yang di-akui dan penyiasatan berkenaan dengan pendapatan keluarga itu pada masa membuat permohonan.

Oleh sebab 'Am ada-lah menjadi kuat Bantuan kuasa negeri, tidak-lah dapat di- elakkan yang tiap2 negeri itu mem- punyai dasar-nya bersendiri.

Sunggoh pun bagitu, untok mendapatkan per- samaan dalam chara menjalankan ranchangan bantuan 'Am ini, Kemen- terian telah menggubal satu panduan Kerajaan2 sekim Negeri.
Tetapi mereka tidak-lah ter- mesti menerima sekim itu bulat2.

Pada keselurohan-nya gulongan2 yang boleh mendapat ada-lah bantuan wang saperti berikut: saya untok (i) Orang2 tua.

(ii) Janda2 yang mempunyai tang- gongan anak dan anak2 yatim.

(iii) Orang2 yang terchedera sama ada berkekalan atau pun semen- tara.

(iv) Tanggongan orang2 salah dan penyakit tahanan, pengidap2 kusta dan penyakit otak.

(v) Orang2 sakit yang menyebabkan mereka tidak boleh bekerja dan pengidap2 batok kering yang terok.
(vi) Orang2 yang menganggor de tidak mempunyai mata ngan pencharian yang nyata.

Sukatan bantuan yang di-beri ada- lah berlainan mengikut keperluan, kechil besar sa-suatu keluarga itu dan pendapatan-nya.

Sa-kurang2 bantuan ia-lah $15 bagi perseorangan dan sa-tinggi2-nya ia-lah $75 bagi satu2 sa-bulan.
Sa-tengah2 pen keluarga dapatan keluarga itu daripada lain2 tidak di-potong puncha pencharian dan sukatan pendapatan yang di- benarkan ada-lah antara $10 dan $25 dan mengikut pula besar kechil-nya sa-suatu keluarga itu.

Saperti yang telah saya terangkan tadi, perkara ini ada-lah luar daripada batasan Dewan ini dan oleh itu saya tidak berchadang hendak berchakap lanjut lagi berkenaan dengan perkara ini.
Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam (Ipoh): Mr Speaker, Sir, the Honourable Minister has said a lot, but has not answered the question as to how many Malays, how many Indians, how many Chinese are receiving this aid.

May I ask whether it is possible to give an answer?

the the answer negative, may I know why?

in is If Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan: Saya telah terangkan tadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ia-itu ada-lah menjadi dasar Kerajaan tidak memberi keterangan mengikut perkauman.
Sa-bagaimana yang saya katakan tadi kita hanya memberi jumlah-nya, sekian2 banyak di-tiap2 satu tempat.

Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Mr Speaker, Sir, it is not the question of which race should get it.

It is a question of information.

May I ask a the Honourable Minister has been able to find out how many families are getting financial aid, why is it not possible to say who those families are by races?

supplementary question?


If Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan: Saya sudah jawab, Tuan Yang di- Pertua, ia-itu ada-lah menjadi dasar Kerajaan tidak memberi dengan chara perkauman.

Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Sir, I asked the Honourable Minister to state why.

I am not asking the basis.

The question here asks the Minister to state "the number of Malays, Indians, " and so on.

Is the Chinese Honourable Minister refusing to answer 629 6 JULY 1964 that?
I ask you, Sir, to give a ruling on it, as to whether the answer given makes any sense at all.

Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan: Saya sudah jawab, Tuan Yang di- Pertua.

Mr Speaker: He has answered.

already LANGKAH2 MENGAWAL PENGEMIS2 DAL AM BANDAR2 DI-MALAYA 10.
Enche' Othman bin Wok bertanya kapada Menteri Kebajikan 'Am apa telah di-ambil, yang langkah yang sedang di-ambil dan yang akan di- ambil oleh Kerajaan bagi mengawal pengemis2 dalam bandar2 di-Tanah Melayu 'am-nya dan Ibu Kota Per- sekutuan khas-nya, dan apa langkah2 yang sedang di-jalankan bagi meniin- dahkan pengemis2 ini dari bandar2.
Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kawalan, jagaan dan pemulehan pengemis2 di-Tanah Melayu telah mendapat perhatian yang sa-wajar-nya daripada pehak Kerajaan semenjak beberapa tahun yang lampau.

Beberapa penyiasatan dan pengajian telah di-jalankan oleh Jabatan Ke bajikan Musharakat dan pertubohan2 sukarela.

Berpandukan kapada hasil2 penyiasatan dan pengajian itu, tinda- kan2 yang perlu telah di-jalankan untok mengawal peminta2 sedekah dan pengemis2.
Ada-lah nyata ia-itu pe- mechahan masaalah ini bukan-lah bergantong sa-mata2 kapada Kerajaan sahaja kerjasama badan2 sukarela dan orang ramai sendiri yang suka memberi sedekah kapada pengemis2 itu dengan tidak mengetahui yang perbuatan mereka telah mengekalkan masaalah ini.
bahkan kapada Sa-benar-nya memang ada beberapa orang peminta sedekah yang ber- kehendakkan kapada bantuan, tetapi pada keselurohan-nya, kebanyakan daripada mereka ia-lah orang2 yang ahli dalam kerja meminta sedekah yang mempunyai rumah2 sendiri dan di-fikirkan tidak perlu berbuat demi- kian untok sara hidup mereka.

Keadaan ini sangat-lah nyata pada hari2 Juma'at dan hari2 kelepasan dan 630 hari2 kebesaran di-kawasan2 yang berhampiran dengan masjid2.
Penge mis2 itu menggunakan perasaan kasihan belas orang ramai dan perlu di- nyatakan ia-itu kalau tidak-lah orang ramai terpedaya, neschaya masaalah peminta2 sedekah yang men- jadi ahli dalam kerja ini, dapat di-hapuskan sama sa-kali.

senang Pada masa ini kita mempunyai 9 buah yayasan2 Kerajaan dan 80 buah yayasan sukarela yang di-bantu oleh Kerajaan2 Negeri dan Persekutuan untok memberi jagaan, kawalan dan pemulehan sa-mula kapada pengemis2 dan peminta2 sedekah.
Sa-buah dari pada yayasan2 ini yang di-tadbirkan oleh Kerajaan dan boleh memuati 270 orang terletak di-Serdang kira2 12 batu daripada Kuala Lumpur.

Enam buah daripada kebajikan sukarela itu ada-lah terdiri di-dalam negeri Selangor dan 4 daripada-nya di-dalam Daerah Kuala Lumpur.

rumah2 Undang2 untok mengawal peminta2 sedekah memang ada, tetapi undang2 ini yang di-kenali sa-bagai "Undang2 Pengemis2 dan Orang2 Bangsat" telah di-kuatkuasakan Perang Dunia Kedua, mengikut perlembagaan yang ada pada masa itu.
Undang2 ini sudah lama dan boleh di-katakan lapok dan tidak memberi kuasa untok mengadakan kawalan dan penahanan pengemis2 dan orang2 bangsat yang berkesan.

sa-belum itu, Ada juga sa-tengah2 peminta2 se dekah dan orang2 yang sa-umpama itu yang tinggal dalam Rumah2 Kebajikan ini yang telah di-jumpa meminta sedekah di-Kuala Lumpur dan lain2 negeri.

Oleh sebab timbangan yang segera telah di-beri untok me- minda dan membaiki undang2 yang ada sekarang.
Jawatan-kuasa yang telah di-tubohkan khas kerana tugas telah pun selesai menjalankan ini, kerja-nya dan harus suatu Rang Undang2 akan di-bawa ka-dalam Par- limen dalam tahun ini.

Undang2 yang baharu itu sudah barang tentu akan membolehkan kita menjalankan tin- dakan2 yang lebeh berkesan terhadap pengemis2.

Buat sementara ini segala ikhtiar sedang di-jalankan untok mengawal 631 6 JULY 1964 632 pengemis2 dan orang2 bangsat di- dalam bidang undang2 yang ada sekarang dan mengikut kemampuan yang ada.
juga tahun telah di-dirikan dengan Kebajikan Di-Melaka sa-buah pusat pemulehan khas untok pengemis2 dan orang2 lalu bangsat kerjasama di-Ayer Kroh Negeri, Jawatan-kuasa Melaka.

Pusat2 yang sa-umpama ini sedang di-ranchangkan di-lain2 tempat dalam Tanah Melayu.

Jawatan-kuasa Kebajikan Negeri, Pulau Pinang telah pun dapat sa-keping tapak rumah dan sedang menyediakan pelan2 bangunan untok sa-buah pusat yang sa-umpama itu.
Jawatan-kuasa Kebajikan Negeri, Trengganu sedang mengator ranchangan untok mendirikan sa-buah pusat pemulehan berjiran dengan Rumah Kebajikan Bukit Payong yang ada sekarang di-Negeri itu.

Kerajaan Negeri, Negeri Sembilan telah menyerahkan sa-buah kemah tentera yang burok di-Kendong.

Pelan2 sedang di-sediakan dengan kerjasama Majlis Pusat Kebajikan Persekutuan untok menjadikan tersebut kemah sa-bagai sa-buah pusat pemulehan sa-mula bagi pengemis2 dan orang2 bangsat yang tadi.
saya juga di-berikan Timbangan ada-lah lagi perkhidmatan2 bagi meluaskan untok kawalan, jagaan dan pemulehan sa-mula pengemis2 dan orang2 yang sa-umpama itu dalam Ranchangan Pembangunan Negara Malaysia Yang Pertama.

katakan sa-mula AUTOMATIC TELEPHONE EXCHANGE—TELOK ANSON 11.
Dr Ng Kam Poh (Telok Anson) asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications to state when will an Automatic Exchange for telephones in Teluk Anson be installed; (b) why there are delays in trunk and local telephone (c) whether Government will put more lines in the area the to cater adequately with amount of telephone calls.
calls; and The Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications (Dato' V. T. Sam- banthan): Mr Speaker, Sir, is planned to install an automatic tele phone exchange for Telok Anson some it this year.

When time during the First Malaysian Plan.

The occasional delay to trunk calls is due to shortage of circuits between Ipoh and Telok Anson.
Equipment is on order and should be installed before the end of the additional circuits are provided, it is hoped that the delays to trunk calls would be reduced to a minimum.

The congestion of trunk circuits, parti cularly in the peak hours, has meant that operators have had additional work from in answering enquiries subscribers to prevent their trunk calls to mature.

This has resulted in a certain amount of delay to local calls associated with along with manual is.
that, when addi therefore, expected tional been have circuits provided, the operators will have less they will be work connecting calls on demand, and that local calls will be answered more expeditiously.

telephone exchanges.

to do, because trunk those It ROCKET BASES IN MALAYA 12.

Enche' Kow Kee Seng (Singapore) asks to the Deputy Prime Minister state whether there is any proposal by to build the British Government rocket bases anywhere in Malaya.
Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, it is the intention of this Government in consultation with our Allies to take adequate defensive measures against any form of attack by the enemy whether by land, sea, or air.

During the present period of confrontation it is not considered in the public interest to make public what these measures are.

Enche' Kow Kee Seng: Mr Speaker, Sir, this is a very unsatisfactory reply.
The installation of rocket bases in this country is a major policy decision that must be debated in this House.

T am shocked at the light-hearted manner in the Honourable Minister has which reply, Mr Speaker.

Sir.

Mr Speaker: Order, order.

(To Enche9 Kow Kee Seng) That is not a supplementary question.

It is a state ment.

633 6 JULY 1964 634 FOREIGN INVESTMENTS IN MALAYA, SINGAPORE, SABAH, SARAWAK 13.
Enche' Lim Huan Boon (Singa pore) asks the Minister of Finance to state : (a) the total value of foreign invest ments in the States of Malaya, Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak, from Britain, United States of America and Japan, respectively; (b) in what form these investments are; (c) the inflow of capital from these countries for each year since 1957; and (d) the outflow of profits from these investments each year since 1957.
The Minister of Finance (Enche9 Tan Siew Sin): Mr Speaker, Sir, I will try to answer the question in four parts: (a) The total value of foreign invest- ments in the States of Malaya, Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak, from Britain, United States of America and Japan, respective ly—Figures of total value of foreign investments in the States of Malaya, Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak, from Britain, the United States of America and Japan are not available.
As these investments have been made over periods of years, the total value cannot be ascertained without a comprehensive survey of foreign enterprises operating in Malaysia.

companies A company survey was carried out in the States of Malaya towards the end of last year, but only information on the change in the value of the assets of the foreign concerned was obtained and not on the total value of their investments.
Consideration will be given to information on the obtaining total value of investments of future foreign company surveys and also to extending the survey to all parts of Malaysia.

investments are—Foreign capital in Malaysia scope of companies the in (b) In what form these is mainly invested in rubber and oil palm estates, tin and iron mines, trade and import manufacturing.
the (c) The inflow of capital from these countries for each year since the 1957—No information on inflow of capital into Malaysia from each of the countries referred to is available.

Prelimi nary balance of payment esti foreign mates capital inflow into Malaysia in recent years has been of the following order of magnitude.

I will give the figures in millions of dollars.


indicate that 1960 1961 1962 1963 Millions ($) 250 280 330 390 (d) The outflow of profits from these investments each year since 1957—Similarly, no infor mation on the outflow of profits from Malaysia to each of the countries referred to is available.

Preliminary balance of payment estimates indicate that the out flow of profits from Malaysia has been as follows.
Again the figures are in millions of dollars: 1960 1961 1962 1963 Millions ($) 271.6 189.3 141.1 163.6 Enche' Lim Huan Boon: Mr Speaker, Sir, I am aware that the exact figures are not available, but surely the Honourable the Minister can provide a close approximation in respect of the investments of foreign countries?

It astonishes me that six years after Independence we still do not know how much our country is owned by foreigners and whether this proportion is increasing.
Can the Honourable the Minister assure this House that this vital information will be made avail able without delay, or it may appear that the Government is not keen to 6 JULY 1964 636 635 find out economy?

such facts about our Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I have given all the available information to the Honourable Mem ber and, as he will see from the figures I have given, I think the trend is in our favour.
Enche' Lim Huan Boon: Is the Honourable Minister aware that un restricted outflow of profit is impo- verising the country?

What steps will be taken to restrict this?

Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, unfortunately, the Honourable Member has got a very rigid mind and he is not prepared to look at the facts as they are.

If he had listened to my figures closely he would have realised that passes the inflow of capital is greater while the outflow is gettng better.
that with every year STATUTORY RIGHT TO VISIT POLITICAL DETAINEES BY LEGISLATIVE SINGAPORE Singapore ASSEMBLYMEN 14.

Enche' Chia Thye Poh (Singapore) asks the Minister of Home Affairs whether he is aware that pursuant to Prison Ordinance, the the Singapore Assemblymen political statutory right visit detainees and, several so, why from Singapore Assem applications blymen of to the Barisan Sosialis visit these detainees have been refused.

have to if Dato' Dr Ismail: The answer is "Yes".


Under Section 68 (2) of the Prisons Ordinance, Singapore, a Mem ber of the Singapore Legislative Assembly may at any time visit any prison in Singapore, but this extends only to a prison declared as a prison under this Ordinance.

Places of deten tion where detainees are detained are not prisons within the meaning of the Ordinance.

Will the Honourable Mem ber please see the Singapore Gazette L.N.

(S) No.

6/67?
(S) No.

6/67?

Dr Tan Chee Khoon: May I seek clarification on that, Sir?

I think, if the Honourable Member is trying to that dodge under detention camps do not come within the law and say the definition of "prisons" is it not the right of an elected representative of in this House!

to visit detainees prisons or in detention camps as the Government bench would have it, so that they can find out in any way they the Government or can either help help the people who are detained?
EMPLOYMENT OF EXPATRIATE OFFICERS IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE 15.

Enche' Chia Thye Poh (Singapore) asks the Prime Minister to state: (a) the number of expatriate officers in Government Service at present and the posts they occupy; (b) what steps are to be taken by Government implement to "Malayanisation" in the Public Service; and (c) the number of expatriates who have received compensation but are still working in this country these, how many have and of received Government permission to do this.

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in Government Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mr Speaker, Sir, there are at) present 210 expatriate officers service of whom 94 are on contract.

A break down of the posts they occupy in the various services is as follows: Malayan Civil Service .

Corps of Accountants Agriculture Audit Chemistry Civil Aviation Drainage and Irrigation .
Education Forestry Geological Survey Immigration Income Tax Inland Revenue Judicial Machinery Marine Medical Mines Broadcasting 3 5 3 1 1 1 4 .. 36 2 .. .. 12 1 .. 1 3 2 4 .. 11 7 3 1 ... ... .. .. 637 6 JULY 1964 638 ... ... Defence ... ... Commerce and Industry ... Road Transport ... Veterinary Statistics ... Treasury Museums and Aborigines Police Printing Public Works Survey Telecommunications ... Town Planning 2 1 1 1 1 1 3 26 ... 1 ... 59 4 ... 5 ... 3 ... ... are awarded Sir, the Government has established a Scholarship and Training Pro gramme by means of which scholar ships for Malayan students to enable them to obtain the basic qualifications necessary for entry into Government service at Division I level.
Scholarships made available to this country under the Colombo Plan are also used to train Malayans to enable them to qualify for appointment in Government to Division I posts service as well as to enable them to equip themselves to shoulder higher responsibilities.

In addition, serving officers are sent overseas to enable them to be trained at various centres so that on successful completion of their courses to service in posts which carry higher responsibilities.
Furthermore, suitably the qualified Malayans already service are earmarked and appointed to understudy their expatriate counter they parts and replace proceed on the Malayanisation Scheme.

It has always been the policy of the Government to Malayanise as the public rapidly as possible.

them when retirement under they could service return in Sir, so far the Government has given permission to only twenty two such expatriate officers, most of whom have become citizens in occupation in this country.
to engage Enche' Stephen Yong Kuet Tze: Mr Speaker, Sir, do the figures given by the Honourable the Deputy Prime Minister include the expatriate officers serving in Sabah, Sarawak and Singa pore.

Tun Haji Abdul Razak: No, Sir.

for Malayan public is only This service.


STATEMENT BY MINISTER Failure of the Summit Talks in Tokyo to withdraw the mechanics of The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun Haji Abdul Razak): Mr Speaker, Sir, I wish to inform this House on what transpired at the meeting in Tokyo and to explain briefly the reason why that meeting ended the way it did.
Sir, I left for Tokyo on 12th June, 1964, the Honourable Prime followed by Minister on an the 14th amidst atmosphere of uncertainty, whether Indonesia would abide by the terms of the Agreement their troops, regulars and irregulars, from the Malaysian territory, and conse quently, whether there was really going to be a Tripartite Meeting of the Foreign Ministers or Heads of Govern ment.
Now, at that time discussions among the military liaison teams in the Bangkok on withdrawal did not make any headway, with the Indonesian side making the ridiculous request that not only the order for withdrawal of their troops be secretly given but that the check-point should be in Pontianak, a hundred miles within Indonesian territory.

This appears, Sir, as if the whole exercise was to effect withdrawal from Indo nesia and not from Malaysia.
The Malaysian side wanted more check points as in a territory covering over 1,800 miles for withdrawals to be effected through a few check-points and the greater the number of check-points, the quicker would be the withdrawal.

We also requested these check-points be located on the border or within Malaysian territory and undertook to give neces for sary protection and safe-conduct those to guerillas who wanted withdraw.
These proposals were rejected by the Indonesians and at that stage, the Malaysian Government was full of doubts as to the sincerity and good intention of the Indonesians to live up to their commitment in the Agreement.

However, out of respect for President Macapagal, who has to resolve our made a great effort it was unrealistic 639 6 JULY 1964 640 differences with Indonesia and who had left for Tokyo, we made the journey to Tokyo.
Honourable Members might recall that Tripartite Ministerial Talks had been held before.

The first talks in Bangkok in February 1964 were incon clusive primarily because Dr Subandrio, the Indonesian Foreign Minister, was unwilling to commit Indonesia to an agreement to withdraw their forces, irregular, out of our regular or territory.
It has always been our contention that the presence of these troops in our territory is not only a gross violation of our sovereignty and integrity, but amounted to demanding upon us to negotiate under duress.

Any self-respecting nation would not tolerate such military pressure.

a of for this their second initiated round of to provide The second ministerial talks were also held in Bangkok in March.
The Indonesians stood fast to their oft- repeated position that the pace of the withdrawal forces was contingent upon the progress of the political settlement.
When it was clear that the ministerial talks would equally prove abortive, Ambassador Lopez of the three-point Philippines formula—first, the disengagement and the confinement of the activities of the Indonesian and Malaysian forces in their respective the commence territories, secondly, ment at the same time of talks with a view to reaching final political settle ment; and, thirdly, the commencement of the meeting of Heads of Govern ment as soon as withdrawal was completed.
Malaysia accepted this formula with the provision that there should not be any link between the question of withdrawal and the ques tion of the political settlement.

This "Lopez" formula, known as formula was not acceptable to Indo nesia.
the to this House Mr Speaker, Sir, I intend today to that despite show subsequent efforts both by President Macapagal and Ambassador Lopez, the Indonesian Government had not abandoned their militant attitude to force us to come to a political settle ment and to accede to their political to is also my intention ambition which is to "crush Malaysia".
inform It Honourable Members that despite this militant objective of the Indonesian Government, Malaysia will continue to seek peaceful means for the solution the present differences between of Indonesia and Malaysia.
Sir, it was in early May this year that we received a message from President Macapagal proposing a two- point formula: (i) That the initial withdrawal of the Indonesian troops from Sabah and Sarawak would take place simultaneously with the beginning of the Summit Talks; (ii) That Summit Talks commence with a meeting of Foreign Ministers who will accompany their respective Heads of Govern ment.
President Macapagal informed us that this arrangement would be pre ferable to holding a separate meeting of Foreign Ministers since the presence of Heads of Government in the same place and at the same time would provide opportunities for instant con sultations.

It was his earnest conviction that Summit Talks would offer the only practical alternative to facilitate a peaceful solution to Indonesia/Malay sia relations.
President Macapagal's message was followed by a visit by Ambassador Lopez who arrived in Kuala Lumpur from Jakarta on 15th May.

He informed the Honourable Prime Mini that President Sukarno was ster prepared to make a token withdrawal of his troops simultaneously with the start of the meeting of Foreign Ministers.
As Honourable Members are aware, this was the beginning of Ambassador Lopez' efforts, shuttling between Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta for about two weeks, putting forward before us, first, Indonesian agreement to a token withdrawal, then agreement to the principle of withdrawal with the verification of the initial withdrawal, and later the verification of only the beginning of the withdrawal.

All these.
All these.

Sir, were merely a play of words the without, the least, affecting in 641 6 JULY 1964 642 into efforts troops—both position of Indonesia to use military pressure to achieve a political objective.

The Honourable the Prime Minister explained to Ambassador Lopez that what was important was that Indonesia should make genuine to withdraw her troops from Malaysian territory to show her sincerity and good faith to end aggression and live in peace.
There must be acceptance by Indonesia of the prerequisite to any meeting between the parties concerned that there should be the withdrawal of her regular and irregular—from Sabah and Sarawak and that there should be no further territories.

A these intrusions token or initial withdrawal, or the verification of only the beginning of the withdrawal would be insufficient.
However, towards the later stage of Ambassador Lopez' efforts Malaysia was prepared, for the sake of peace, to agree to the venue, date, and even the idea of the Heads of Government being present in Tokyo at the same time when the Foreign Ministers would be meeting.

Malaysia was also prepared not to insist on complete withdrawal before the Summit Meeting so long as the Indonesians had shown sincere their forces to withdraw intentions from our territory and had made genuine efforts to do so.
This was conveyed to President Sukarno by Ambassador Lopez and after a series of comings and goings, it was finally agreed as made public on the 30th May—and I quote: "That there shall be a meeting in Tokyo between President Sukarno, President Maca pagal and Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman and these three Heads of Govern ment shall be accompanied by their respec tive Foreign Ministers; that there shall be a meeting of the Foreign Ministers before the meeting of the Heads of Government; that Indonesia accepts the principle of the withdrawal of her forces from Sabah and Sarawak; that the beginning of the withdrawal shall commence with the meeting of the Foreign Ministers; that Thailand be asked to undertake the verification of the withdrawal; and that as soon as the verification has been communicated by the Thai Foreign Minister and the agenda agreed upon, the meeting of the Heads of State will commence."
Now, Sir, this agreement would provide the necessary procedure for all concerned to work for a satisfactory solution if there were goodwill and good the parties concerned.
This, however, did not seem to be the Indonesian motive, for the announcement in Jakarta contained an additional para graph which stressed, and I quote: that was made intention among "President Sukarno had repeatedly empha sised to Ambassador Lopez to convey to Prime Minister Abdul Rahman that further withdrawal will take place in conformity with the talks.

progress Ambassador Lopez to have conveyed this statement of President Sukarno to Prime Minister Abdul Rahman."
the confirmed political of letters between Sir, this was an excellent example of Indonesian duplicity, which took even Ambassador Lopez by surprise.

This additional paragraph brought us back to where we started.

The prospect of the proposed summit was again in jeopardy.
However, after an exchange of the Permanent Secretary of External Affairs and Ambassador Lopez, later clarified to us there was only one official version as issued in Kuala Lumpur and Manila, and this under standing was subsequently confirmed to President by President Sukarno Macapagal.

But the question, Mr Speaker, Sir, whether Indonesia was sincere in carrying out the withdrawal still lingered in our minds.
it was Honourable Members will remem ber that the Honourable Prime Minister stated after the announcement of this Agreement that he would be prepared to go to Tokyo only after the question of the mechanics of the withdrawal had been completed.

As far as we are concerned the speed and efficiency of the verification of the withdrawal were dependent upon early agreement on this question.
The matter had already been discussed with the Thai Foreign Minister at Cameron Highlands and the proposal had been conveyed to President Sukarno by Ambassador Lopez.

However, it was obvious during the discussion by the military liaison officers in Bangkok that there was a wide divergence between the Malay sian and the Indonesian views.
While 643 6 JULY 1964 644 the quicker would be them Malaysia requested as many check points as possible to be located within the Malaysian territory, or on the border, and that the order for the withdrawal of the guerillas be made public, Indonesia insisted only on one check-point in Pontianak, one hundred miles away from the border.

The order for withdrawal had also to be secret.


To us the question of check-points was one of purely practical consideration, since the greater the number of check points the withdrawal.

To it was a question of a device to cloak a hidden objective, and the objective was clear.

There would be no withdrawal.

There would be further acts of aggression and incursions, and sabotage, murder.
Indeed the two incidents on the 13th June in 2nd Division of Sarawak were an act of bad faith on the part of its acceptance of the principle of with drawal, and an affront to the efforts being made towards holding a Summit in Meeting.

We were nevertheless Tokyo.

We were there, Sir, because we remained firm in our commitment in the agreement, despite evidence of bad intention and insincerity on the part of Indonesia.
Indonesia despite arson The day after I arrived in Tokyo and after having the morning discussion with Ambassador Lopez, I personally directed our officials in Bangkok to reduce the number of check-points from thirty-one to five.

I regard this as the bare minimum, from practical con sideration alone, and if the check points are too far apart a guerilla who wishes to withdraw may take months to walk to the check-point whereas the border could be only a few miles from his position.
In the meantime, the Thai Govern ment proposed a compromise formula of two pairs of check-points, one in Sarawak and another one in Indonesia, and another in Sabah and the other one on the Indonesian side of the border in Sabah.

The Malaysian delegation, again for similar considera tion, thought this proposal impracti cable.

However, the Prime Minister.


earnest in trying to find a solution and also desirous of having the Summit as the beginning of soon as possible, over-ruled this objection and agreed, after discussion with President Macapagal, to put forward a suggestion to Indonesia.
I quote this agreement we had in Tokyo: "On the understanding that the Foreign Ministers Meeting will start simultaneously with the withdrawal, Indonesia is prepared to begin the withdrawal from an area in Sarawak through one check the point on border the Indonesian side of the border.

Indonesia and Malaysia have agreed to designate and prepare another check-point for withdrawal from Sabah.
Withdrawal generally will require additional check-points which will be the Foreign a matter for discussion by Ministers.

Both sides agree that guerillas activities as well as counter operations against these activities will cease along the route the check-points where withdrawal takes place."

the Malaysian side, across check-point on to another related to that Sir, we waited for the report of the beginning of the withdrawal from the Thais in order to start the Foreign Ministers meeting.
However, due to the time factor and knowing the Thai observers were already in the field, we further agreed to hold the meeting even before the actual with drawals had started.

We felt that a difference of a few hours from the time of the actual verification of the beginning of the withdrawal did not warrant further delay of the Foreign Ministers Meeting.

The Foreign Ministers met in two sessions on 18th and 19th June.
Although Indonesia finally agreed to more check-points, we began to sense their real intention.

Dr Subandrio began to recount his old arguments, which we have often heard in Bangkok, that Indonesia was not opposed to Malaysia but was opposed the formation of Malaysia.

He asserted that Indonesia did not violate the sovereignty of Malaysia because Indo nesia did not recognise Malaysia.

He insisted on the return to the Manila Accord and on treating the question as a whole.
The question of withdrawal and the presence of Indonesian forces were not military but political issues.

The political issues must be settled first.

to Mr Speaker, Sir, I must say the statement by Dr Subandrio did not come as a surprise to us because we 645 6 JULY 1964 646 have heard it before.

We, nevertheless, made our position doubly clear that Malaysia could not negotiate at the point of a gun.
Although Malaysia would not insist on a complete withdrawal, Malaysia must be satisfied that there was genuine intention and effort on the part of Indonesia by ensuring there would be a substantial withdrawal of the Indo nesian from Malaysian territory.

guerillas that rather The agreement to hold Ministerial and Heads of Government talks in Tokyo did not appear to inhibit the "Crush Indonesian Government's Malaysia" campaign.
Anti-Malaysia propaganda than increased diminished in volume; new attacks were launched across the border from in Indonesian Kalimantan resulting further casualties among members of the Malaysian Security Forces; and a combat Volunteer Brigade was des patched from Djakarta for a much- Indonesian publicised build-up of troops in Kalimantan.
After the first verification report had been received from Thailand confirm ing that 32 Indonesian troops had withdrawn across the border, a second Meeting of the Foreign Ministers was held, and it was agreed that a Heads of Government Meeting should be held the next day, 20th June, 1964.

During the two Meetings of the Heads of Government, President Ma- capagal outlined his proposal for the establishment of an Afro-Asian Con ciliation Commission.
The Commission would be requested to study the exist ing problems between the three coun tries and to submit recommendations for the solution.

He proposed that Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philip pines should each select an Asian or African nation and that they should together select one more African or Asian nation.

The 4-man Commission would be given a time-limit within which their task should be completed.
The withdrawal of Indonesian Armed Forces should be completed at the same time as the Report of the Com to Malaysia, is submitted mission Indonesia and the Philippines.

President Sukarno said that Indo nesia could not accept Malaysia because of the undemocratic process the of its formation and because the procedure of ascertainment by Michelmore Mission was not in the terms of accordance with the Manila Agreement.
He described Malaysia as a British creation and asserted that Malaysia must be opposed by Indonesia as a con sequence.

Indonesia, he added, was not interfering in the internal affairs of Malaysia.

There was only a con flict between the two countries.

President Sukarno said that he would accept the Afro-Asian Com mission, but that in the meantime "confrontation" continue.

Withdrawal of Indonesian guerillas, he said, would be in conformity with the progress of the political settlement.
would Our Prime Minister explained at the Meetings that he could not understand the objection of President Sukarno to the formation of Malaysia on the grounds that it was created by the British.

He further explained to the Meetings that Malaysia came into being in the same way as other coun tries in the Commonwealth through the metropolitan negotiations with power, that is the British Government.

The same process had taken place when Malaya became independent in August, 1957.
Indonesia did not object to Malaya nor did she object to the presence of in North the British Borneo and Sarawak before the 16th September, 1963.

The formation of Malaysia received further authentica the peoples tion of concerned from the Secretary-General the United Nations.

President of Sukarno failed to adduce evidence that the Secretary-General had not fully implemented the Manila Accord.
Now, Sir, our Malaysian Prime Minister agreed in principle to the Commission as proposed by President Macapagal, because we are prepared to go to any length in search for peace, with the proviso that aggressive acts must first cease before the establish ment of this Commission.
the desire of It should be noted that there was agreement among the three Heads of 647 6 JULY 1964 648 Government on only one aspect of the Conciliation proposed Afro-Asian Commission, namely, that there should be a body of persons, who would constitute this Commission.

There was no discussion and, therefore, no agree the composition, or ment on either the terms of reference of the Commis sion.
that It should also be noted the Commission, as proposed by President Macapagal, is not a Truce Commis sion like the one for Kashmir.

Malay sia's provisional acceptance of the proposed Commission only presup poses that that body will not be a Truce Commission.

The Afro-Asian Commission has been proposed to find ways and means of enabling Indone sia to be reconciled with Malaysia.

to herself Malaysia has no quarrel with Indonesia and by right need not sub ject this Commission.
However, in the interests of peace, we are prepared to agree to this proposal, provided it is clear that Indonesia has to a genuine desire and adopt towards Malaysia.

a peaceful intention policy Indonesia claims The imposition of Indonesia's will on Malaysia by means of force and the threat of force cannot be justified under any circumstances and con- demnable by the Charter of the United Nations and by the Bandung Declara to tion of which be the champion.
The Honourable Prime Minister in his reply to Presi dent Sukarno that Malaysia said though small would not succumb to any form of military pressure.

He was elected by his people for the onerous his duty country.

told that we would President Sukarno in rather be crushed and perish defence of our rights and our way of life to any form of military pressure.
and defend terms he than succumb to protect In solemn We agreed to the proposal of the since Conciliation Commission, but the Commission is a Conciliation Commission with the task of normali sing relations between Indonesia and Malaysia, we proposed that all forms aggression of consideration should confrontation cease before and of the reference, the composition, could be given to the appointment of this Commission.
The withdrawal of the Indonesian forces, regulars and irregulars, from Malaysia which began with the commencement Foreign Ministers meeting and carried out in earnest and with genuine efforts should continue and be concluded within a few weeks.

At the conclusion of the withdrawal, the Foreign Minis ters should meet to consider the terms the of operative dates and procedural matters the Commission.
We also pro for posed that a favourable climate be created to enable the Commission to task smoothly and carry out effectively by agreeing to respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the each other's country, to uphold principle of non-interference the in internal affairs of each other, to re frain from hostile acts against each other and take every possible measure to avoid making acrimonious attacks and disparaging references to each other.
their to Mr Speaker, Sir, the Summit Con ference on which so much hope had been attached by millions of people finally broke down without any agree ment.

We on our side had done all we could to come to terms with Indo nesia and we gave in several times, so that the Prime Minister could come face to face with Sukarno, to try to understand behind the Sukarno's objection to Malaysia.
reasons just and peaceful Throughout the meetings we could not discern the slightest inclination on the part of President Sukarno towards a settlement of Indonesia's differences with Malaysia.

On the contrary, President Sukarno clearly displayed his implacable hos the very existence of tility Malaysia.
towards As a result of the Tokyo Meeting, we now know, and the world now knows, that despite his protestations that "all human beings have a right in peace and happiness", to Sukarno's real ambition is to domi nate this whole region.

As soon as the Indonesians went back to Jakarta from Tokyo, Subandrio came out live 649 6 JULY 1964 650 to with a most cynical statement de claring that Indonesia is now no longer bound its previous commitments and now free to intensify its "Crush Malaysia" campaign.
So, it is.

"Crush Malaysia" again!

By no stretch of that imagination could one believe those words came from a man who really desires peace.

Sir, we are now back where we in no were.

We have demonstrated uncertain terms our overriding desire for peace with Indonesia consistent with our independence and sovereign ty.

However, our peace efforts had been spurned by Sukarno and we could not continue giving in to the compromising Indonesians without our own sove independence reignty.
It was obvious that Sukarno that would only accept a solution would end in the dismemberment of Malaysia.

Nothing would be dearer to his heart to see Sabah and Sarawak under his rule.

It is, there fore, clear that there will be no end to this exasperating state of affairs, unless there is a change of heart in the Jakarta regime.
than and The situation in Sabah and Sarawak today may become more serious in view of the massive Indonesian build up along the border and Indonesia's declarations their "con to intensify frontation".

I call upon all Malaysians to the to give their utmost support Government in our efforts to defend this country and would choose this as the best of times to show their loyalty to this country.
(Applause) We must now be prepared for a protracted war of nerves and we must strengthen our selves in the belief that democracy, justice, and our way of life, will in the end triumph.

That is why Govern ment is taking measures to strengthen our Defence Forces and to increase our vigilance against the enemy's activities.

We know there are enemy agents in our midst carrying out the sabotage work and disturbing peace and harmony of our people.
We know also that the enemies are re cruiting young people from our country and training them with the intention not only of carrying out subversive struggle activities but also armed of various Expenditure, increase our the country, so that and our against our Government the people.
The Government with agreement State the Governments has decided to establish Vigilance Corps or Pasokan Kawalan throughout the ordinary people will have an oppor tunity to play their full part in guard ing their houses and their villages.

The Government also proposes to commence training of persons regis tered under the "call-up" from 1st August both for military and civil defence.
As measures to increase our in Defence Forces means Defence Prime Minister, who is now on his way to London for the Commonwealth Prime Ministers' Conference, proposes to ask U.K. and our friends in the Com monwealth for financial assistance for our defence.

The Prime Minister will also be visiting Paris, Ottawa and Washington, and he will have an opportunity the leaders of these countries Indonesia's against Malaysia.
The aggression leaders of the free world, and indeed the leaders of all countries who desire peace and international understand ing, have the responsibility of assisting aggression in deterring because, if the present trouble esca lates into a major conflict, not only Indonesia and Malaysia and countries in this region will be involved but also many other countries of the world will be involved.
Indonesian explaining of to to to While we have increase our Defence expenditure, we have also to continue with our Development pro in Sabah and grammes, particularly Sarawak.

We have to show the people of territories these two new that Malaysia does not only mean confrontation but better and higher standard of living for them and better amenities of life.

It is only by doing this, can we keep our people together and prevent them from being attracted to Indonesia or Communist propa ganda.
Sir, before I conclude I would like to take this opportunity in expressing our very deep appreciation and gra titude to the Government of Thailand, in particular to those personnel in the 651 6 JULY 1964 652 extremely sympathetic Thai Armed Forces, who were involved in the verification exercises.
In the course of the discussions in Bangkok, we found the Thai Govern ment and understanding, and it was this attitude of mind that made it possible for the verification of the beginning of the withdrawal, and which in turn made it possible for the Foreign Ministers to start meeting.

Their contribution towards peace in this region and their demonstration of friendship towards us will always be remembered.
It is also proper for me to express our grateful thanks to the Japanese Government, who were our hosts when we were in Tokyo and who did very much to provide the proper atmo sphere, which was conducive to the possibility of the meeting being held at all.
Again, I must mention here that we found that the Japanese Govern ment were full of understanding of the problems which beset us, and it is with a sense of deep appreciation that I would say here that the Japanese Government have found it possible to be hosts to our King and Queen during the Royal Tour of that beautiful land and at the same time to divert a great deal of their attention and resources to the Tripartite Summit Meeting.
I think only ingenuity could succeed in such a tricky exercise in diplomacy.

the Japanese Lastly, I would like to express our thanks to President Macapagal for his efforts to bring an end to the present situation, and in South-East Asia.

to restore peace Mr Speaker, Sir, after what happened in Tokyo, as I said, we are now back where we were at the beginning of the confrontation.

Indonesia now stated that she would intensify her confronta tion against us.
Therefore, the situation in Sabah and Sarawak and in Malaya as well as Singapore, may become more serious.

We on our part have done everything possible to bring about peace with Indonesia.

Indeed, as the House and, I think, the country will agree, we have gone out of our way to look for peace, but the meetings in Tokyo had proved beyond any doubt that Soekarno does not want peace.

the Government Soekarno wants to crush Malaysia.


Therefore, Sir, it is the duty of us all to rally round to defend ourselves.

The Government has taken all possible measures and will continue to take whatever measures necessary to defend our independence and our integrity.

We know that our cause is right.

We are not only defending ourselves against aggression but also defending a cause and a principle that any nation has the right to exist and that no other nation can its violate integrity.
The Indonesian action is a clear downright act of aggression, and I have no doubt that our friends in the free world, and all countries in Asia and Africa, would realise that if this aggression is not stopped, then no small country can feel safe and that the United the whole principle of Nations Charter is violated and the peace not only of this Region but of the whole world will be in jeopardy.
independence and its Therefore, Mr Speaker, Sir, in this hour of national crisis, on behalf of the Prime Minister and the Government, I ask all of you to stand solidly behind the Government in defence of our independence, our integrity and our honour.

Let us show to the enemies that we are determined to resist their acts of hostilities, in whatever form they may appear, to the bitter end.
We are now a free and independent nation, and we cannot call ourselves worthy of our country unless we are prepared to defend that freedom and that indepen dence with our lives.

(Applause) BILLS PRESENTED THE CONSTITUTION (AMEND MENT) BILL Bill to amend the Constitution of the Federation; presented by the Minister of Home Affairs; read the first time; to be read a second time at the next sitting of this House.
THE CRIMINAL LAW (TEMPO (AMEND- RARY PROVISION) MENT) BILL to amend Bill the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Ordinance, 1955, of Singapore; presented by the 653 6 JULY 1964 654 Minister of Home Affairs; read the first time; to be read a second time at the next sitting of this House, THE INTERNAL SECURITY (AMENDMENT) BILL Bill to amend the Internal Security Act, 1960; presented by the Minister of Home Affairs; read the first time; to be read a second time at the next sitting of this House.
THE INCOME TAX BILL Bill to amend the laws relating to income tax in Malaysia; presented by the Minister of Finance; read the first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of this House.
THE SUPPLEMENTARY SUPPLY (1963 AND 1964) BILL Bill to apply sums out of the Conso lidated Fund for additional expenditure for the service of the years 1963 and 1964 and to appropriate such sums for certain purposes; presented by the Minister of Finance; read the first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of this House.
THE CUSTOMS (AMENDMENT) BILL Bill to amend the Customs Ordinance, 1952; presented by the Minister of Finance; read the first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of this House.

THE EXCISE (AMENDMENT) BILL Bill to amend the Excise Act, 1961; presented by the Minister of Finance; read the first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of this House.
to THE ASSIGNMENT OF EXPORT DUTY (MINERAL ORES) BILL Bill to provide for the assignment by the Federation Government the State Governments of a portion of export duty collected by the Federation Government respect of certain mineral-ores, and for matters connected therewith; presented by the Minister of Finance; read the first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of this House.
in THE FINANCIAL PROCEDURE (AMENDMENT) BILL Bill to amend the Financial Procedure Ordinance, 1957; presented by the Minister of Finance; read the first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of this House.
THE PINEAPPLE INDUSTRY (AMENDMENT) BILL Bill to make further provision for regulating the marketing of canned pineapple, to provide for registration of growers of pineapple and to amend the Pineapple Industry Ordinance, 1957; presented by the Minister of Commerce and Industry; read the first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of this House.
MOTIONS PARLIAMENT (MEMBERS REMU NERATION) ACT, 1960—AMEND MENT The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun Haji Abdul Razak): Tuan Yang di- Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: "Bahawa Majlis ini, menurut sharat2 fasal 4 dalam Parliament (Members Remuneration) Act tahun 1960, mengambil keputusan ia-itu Pindaan yang berikut ini hendak-lah di-buat kapada Jadual Undang2 tersebut: Dalam perenggan 9— Kalimah 'Members shall' hendak-lah di~ gantikan dengan kalimah 'A Member shall be exempted from the payment of hospital ward charges and shall'; dan hendak-lah di-tambah sharat2 baharu saperti berikut: 'Where by reason of an emergency a Member is forced to obtain treatment (other than dental treatment) at a hospital, not being a Government hospital, there shall be reimbursed to the Member any sum paid by him to the said hospital in respect of the treatment'."
In this paragraph, the expression "Member" includes his spouse and children, if any, of such Member.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Ahli2 Yang Berhormat tentu ma'alum ia-itu pe renggan 9 dalam Jadual Parliament (Members Remuneration) Act tahun 1960 itu menyebutkan ia-itu: "Members shall be entitled to the same medical facilities as for Division I officers of the general public service of the Federation."
655 6 JULY 1964 656 Jadi, ini berma'ana Ahli2 Yang Berhormat ada mempunyai hak ber kenaan dengan bayaran hospital ini sama dengan pegawai Division I. Pegawai2 Kerajaan dalam Division I ada-lah di-kenakan bayaran sa-banyak satu peratus daripada gaji pokok bulanan mereka itu bagi tiap2 satu hari bagi mereka2, isteri2 mereka atau anak2 mereka tinggal di-hospital.
Jadi mengikut pengertian perenggan 9 yang ada sekarang ini maka berma'ana-lah ia-itu satu bayaran wad yang di- kenakan hendak-lah di-bayar oleh Ahli2 yang berkenaan dan isteri2 dan anak2 Ahli lelaki berhak mendapat bayaran perubatan perchuma.

Tetapi suami2 dan anak2 Ahli perempuan tidak mendapat hak itu.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Kerajaan sudah memang mempunyai tujuan ia-itu Ahli2 hendak- lah di-kechualikan daripada di-kenakan bayaran wad ini.
Berkenaan kemudahan2 dengan perubatan bagi suami2 dan Ahli2 sa-benar-nya perempuan Kerajaan sudah pun menyatakan dalam tahun dahulu ia-itu suami2 dan anak2 Ahli oerempuan pun hendak-lah mendapat keistimewaan yang sama dengan yang isteri2 dan Ahli2 di-berikan kapada lelaki.

Kerajaan tidak-lah berhajat hendak membeza dalam lapangan ini.
Walau pun bagitu keistimewaan me- ngenai kemudahan2 perubatan itu boleh- lah di-perolehi hanya apabila kemu tersebut di-terima daripada dahan rumah2 sakit Kerajaan sahaja dan termasok rawatan2 gigi.

tidak pula Tetapi dalam masa kechemasan apabila rawatan terpaksa di-perolehi daripada rumah sakit atau pun di-gudang ubat saudagar, Kerajaan akan membayar yang boleh kembali perbelanjaan di-keluarkan mengenai rawatan itu.
Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan supaya cha- dangan ini di-persetujukan.

Dato' Dr Ismail: Tuan Yang di- Pertua, saya sokong.

Datin Fatimah bte.

Haji Hashim (Jitra-Padang Terap): Tuan Yang di- Pertua, saya ingin untok mendapat keterangan dalam chadangan yang di-kemukakan oleh Perdana Menteri jika sa-orang tadi, di-sini apa-kah isteri Ahli ada mempunyai lebeh daripada satu (Ketawa).

Kerana meng ikut dalam ayat di-sini tidak ada di-terangkan atau menyebutkan kapada isteri2.
Pada hal isteri kalau lebeh daripada satu itu bagi orang Islam, dari segi ugama Islam ada-lah tang- gong-jawab mereka juga.

Bagaimana pun kata2 dan uchapan Timbalan Perdana Menteri yang telah mengaku tidak ada beza, membeza antara itu saya Ahli laki dan perempuan uchapkan terima kaseh.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon (Batu): Mr Speaker, Sir, I was beaten to the gun by the Honourable Member on the opposite side; I was going to ask about the word "spouse" in the English version here.
The Honourable Member on the opposite side has asked the question and I hope the Honourable the Acting Prime Minister will elucidate on that point.

Mr Speaker, Sir, if I remember rightly, the Honourable the Acting the Prime Minister also mentioned words "gudang ubat".

As I interpret it, "gudang ubat" means dispensary.

Here it is no where stated that a Member treated at a dispensary will that be reimbursed; reimbursement will only be made if the Member is treated in a hospital.
I seek further clarification of the point of view of the words "gudang ubat" the Acting Prime mentioned by Minister.

it says here Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berkenaan dengan pandangan Jitra- Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Padang Terap, saya tidak sangka Ahli Yang Berhormat itu hendak membawa perkara ini.
Tetapi jikalau Ahli Yang Berhormat sendiri bersetuju Ahli lelaki itu di-benarkan ada mempunyai lebeh daripada sa-orang isteri (Ketawa), pehak Kerajaan bersetuju-lah (Tepok) hendak memberi juga kapada isteri2 yang lain asalkan isteri-nya itu di-akui dalam Undang2.

With regard to the comment by the Honourable Member for Batu, I must say here that by "gudang ubat saudagar" I refer to private hospital, private doctor or private .

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657 6 JULY 1964 658 Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Dispensary?


Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Yes, whatever it is.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon: In the English version, it is not so, Mr Speaker.

Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, the intention is clear.

If in the event of an emergency, it is not possible for any treatment from a Member Government hospital, is then he entitled to get treatment from private sources, and he will be reimbursed by Government.

to get Question put, and agreed to.
Resolved, That this House pursuant to the provisions of section 4 of the Parliament (Members Remuneration) Act, 1960, resolves that the following amendments be made the Schedule to that Act: In paragraph 9— to (i) there shall be substituted for the words "Members "A Member shall be exempted from the payment of hospital ward charges and shall"; and the words shall" (ii) There shall be added the following new provisions— "Where by reason of an emergency a Member is forced to obtain treat ment (other than dental treatment) at a hospital, not being a Government hospital, there shall be re-imbursed to the Member any sum paid by him to the said hospital in respect of the treatment.
In this paragraph, the expression "Member" includes the spouse and children, if any, of such Member."
THE INCOME TAX ORDINANCE, 1947—AMENDMENT TO FIRST SCHEDULE The National Art Gallery The Minister of Finance (Enche' Tan Siew Sin): Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the motion Standing in my name on the Order Paper, viz— That this House in exercise of the powers conferred by Section 102 (1) of the Income Tax Ordinance, 1947, hereby resolves that there be added to the First Schedule of the Income Tax Ordinance, 1947, the following new item: "The National Art Gallery".
Honourable Members will recall that the National Art Gallery was estab lished by the National Art Gallery Ordinance passed by this House in 1959.

With the passing of the Ordin for the Ordinance ance, the management of the National Art Gallery was placed under a Board of Trustees and the purposes of carrying out the objects of there was also established the National Art Gallery is made up of, Fund.
This Fund among other things, donations, grants, and monies earned or arising from moveable or immoveable property, investments, charges or debentures acquired by or invested in the Board.

The monies will be used, apart from meeting the cost of the day to day the Art Gallery administration of which the is mainly provided by Government by way of grants, for the building up of a national collection of works of art, especially by Malaysian artists, and these will become the property of the nation.
It will be seen, therefore, that no part of the income of the Gallery will be used for purposes other than those laid down in the Ordinance.

As such the National Art Gallery is not a profit making institu tion and, as in the case of other institutions of a similar nature, is worthy of consideration for exemption from income tax on its income.

Dato' Dr Ismail: Sir, I beg to second the motion.

Question put, and agreed to.


Resolved, That this House in exercise of the powers conferred by Section 102 (1) of the Income Tax Ordinance, 1947, hereby resolves that there be added to the First Schedule of the Income Tax Ordinance, 1947, the following new item: "The National Art Gallery".

THE INCOME TAX ORDINANCE, 1947—AMENDMENT TO FIRST SCHEDULE (Malayan Muslim Pilgrims Savings Corporation) Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
Honourable Members will recall that this Corporation was established by an Act of Parliament, No.

34 of 1962, as a result of the recommenda tion of a committee set up by Government in June, 1960 to consider a plan to provide facilities for assisting ~ 6 JUICY '1964 660 , intending:ic:Muslim · ··pi;lgrims Ao ·save .

efficiently and · at the samei 1 time · to contribtlte .

towards national.

'economic recom ~ss/: The Committee's mendation was published :~ a White Paper, Cotwrtand 22· of 1962.,:.
· The prir~e '.of ~l\e., CqfP6ration is to enable Ma'sllm pilgnms· 'to .

save for 'i4~it;.

p_ilgtj#Jtge,.

W' Mec.d.1r:J:litJiert6.

PartictI1arl1 fl:tnong · ~ 'rural' popula tion.}

.savJPS$ 'have ~eJ;l ~~c'1inulated and.

la.tct in'• a ~apb~Zatd man.net" which.

has .

had 'itrideSttable and .Oisruptive' ' ~fleets·.

· .. ·on;!

tlie . '

rural e~oholliy.

', '1'.he.

object;.

qf 'the 'Co(pora 'ta .. · at .. ~act .. _these .. tfon.

th~e!9r~ is.
th~e!9r~ is.

.savings' wliitn ; ca,n th~ ~· prQperly .co.ntrou~· · _.ana · ~~ministered.

.

· :Q~ inr~m.l a .

sJ.lch •.

~~vi.ngs in 1~.liares an .. d re41 -~'tat~ lbe .

<;OfI>qrw~Jj w.n1 .

be .~ble t9' JrtJk.e ~~.

~~~tlX~ .. ~ontpf)ut10n 1~·~'tt ¢2_¥P1iA'.gt'.o~ aJid,w~l:UJ of "e ..

Unu)'.

: realised .

.

.

: .

.

Th·•.

<iepOsits made by.· intending pilgrims: •ate· guaranteed.

by,.

Govern~ ment and ~strict rulesr:fot\ withdrawals of such' depcsits· ilave lieen .·drawn up.
From ·the provisions 'di 1 ·the.

Act · and the object ·of thei savings,-.

Honourable ;M~ml;>ers wiij igat,})er.

~t, ~e, C~ra­ tion is nof a .

profit making <lfganisa is worthy of such tion and as from consideration ·" · fol!

; ' exemptidn ·;, income tax on its income.

Sit'~ ~ beg to move.

)~~e' Abdul Raliman '.bin Haji ~'t~: · Sif; 'l be~ t~ !l~~a· th,e.

motion.

, 1 ' Question put, and agreed to, • ' ' l : .. ' " .

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"~~sp~yp,q.,,, 'tbr+i ,.t,biS, a,ou.e; i~,ew2~~· 9t; the~~ers cohfetted by Section 102 '( 1 )"of ' tlie Ine6me Tax Ordinance,: 1947, ·l\ereby resolves that there be ai;tded to,.

the Firs~ Sched~le.

pf !he ~~~1ft:m~ax ·OrcJinl\n~}· 1947, ·th~· fo11owmg "Malayan Musl.im'Pilgrims Savfil.gS'·eotpo .=~tio1''.\ ?- . '

~ FIN~NCIAL PROCEDUJlE ORDIN A~ • t9!7-AMl!NDM1!1NT TO : '.!

!\ stCOND' sc•DVL~ · · ·· ~-",.RelJigenitor .Atlwnce Fund), Ehdlt' Tu Sie# :Ste Mr Speaker, Sit; l beg -to tt\dve the!
motion •ttanding itf 1my 0 name .oif: me-order Papct.

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The Second Sohedulc: to the Finan ci~l PrC?E¢µre ,Qi:qinan~ ;~pecj.fi~ a number or· Government Trust ·Pund.s to_ ,be ~sed for su.ch "parti~iJlar p~ses as· ctnay be .

s~~ by l'~olut1on of this Hotise; "and ~ion' 10 (4} of the Ordinance p1:ovi~; .. thatdbe .HQuse may, by r~lqtipn,.. 'Wtend, delete fEQm or>add ·to the., ~hedule.

The .purpose of thi$- motion is .


to -s_eeJ( the appa;-Qval of this .. House to.,add .t() the Second ,Schedule· a: new Trust FWl<l entitled "SQ.rawu R~r~to,r J\.civance Fund".

The creation of ,this Fuµd will enable the Government to give advances' tor the"':purcliase' of refri gerators to members of tle 'Sarawak cCivil Service who.

,.are seconded to federalised ~merits.

Under their 'and· conditions · of '.~xistirig · tetras service, officers of the Sarawak Civil Service are entitled to obtain .
loans for the' purchase of refJ:jgeratQi'S: ny virtue of the terms· of the Malaysia Agree ment; · the F~eral Government is obliged to oontihu:e'to' ~~pt frich loans w SarjlW~ ~fti,~rs)wbO;;ate !1¢t;:onded to f ederahsed rkpa:rtmertts.

·.

If'tlre House.

'agrees to this resolution, it )s .

proPosec!

·to 'ask its agt~ent in the, near future.

to.

,tho, .approPtiation of approximately $75~000 to this Fund.

~- Sir, I beg to move.

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· The Miniatei for .Locad.•Gq.,'Yemment and Botlling (Edet Khaw.-Kai-Boh): Sit, l beg to>seCe>nd the motion.

v IP ;I'afr~ ~mrJ11Ce4'bat the ~·fr<?nt· ~~: ~- b_eing· given this privilege •.

Wp, "Jnv~ often heard that Sarawak' .

anct 3~abah have been discriminated· against·· iihd l am glad that'they have·been givett'*tiprivilege.

May: I ask , the ··Mimster •:of .. :Fii11m0e whether; m. view ; of .

theJ fact ' that Malayan and .


;Singap<>re· civil servants of His Majesty's Governn1ttnt are ·allso in need of·· suclr an "amenity, th~ Government pr()PQS.~ .to :.ti¢r up ·a Malayan.

or Sing~rc .. • ,~rigerator Advance Fund?

En~he' Tan' Siew $bi~ ¥i Speaker.

Sir, th1Wof oou.nc:Hs-'a~other:~n't'Stion, but, we 'Sh6uld, -not f oiget 1'tat t~ terriis ail<i· <X1ndition~' <;f servi~ · of Malayans:, that tn>fflcers ·in .the'·States ofJMl\la_y'a, and.
'tl\ose in Shm:anore·'ttte"ndt on ·an 661 6 JULY 1964 662 fours with thoso 'in the Borneo ·States.

So I do not think th.em ,terms and strictly conditions of comparable.

serivice.

· ·are -, .. 1 .,.

•• Question put, ~d, a~eed .,to.

Resolved, / ;.

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";r; '~ ··p·: That this House resof"fn -tbat in acciordance with the provisions of sub-section ( '\) of section 10 of the Financial Procec.ture Ordinance, 1957; tJie Second Schedule tp-the said Ordiiu~nce be amended by adding the:i:eto a n~w ite~ entitled ; , · · .

"Sarawalt Refrigerator Advance.

Funq~·.

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THE CUSTOMS DU'flES (~ND· MENT No>8) ORDD, 1M3 .

~-_Tm .

.S~w1 Sia: .¥r ,s~c;r. Srr.

l ·· oeg _ w lllOVc the i;Jl9tlqis.

S!~ding in my name on the Order P'aper.


viz: · That this·~use'Taolwt'diat'i1'liacCotdancie with -the .po"rs vetted in.

it.

by virtue---~ sub-section .

(2) of sectjpn .10. of' tbe Customs ·-ctJstom., Duties Ordinance, · · 1952, · the (Amendment No.

8) Or~r,' 1963;' which bas been laid_ before!

the House aa Statute Ruper No, 42-of ~964 be canfirmed, --.

s~~.

tbls J)rder .

:Ca.m~ :1;4to fo,l~.

6n 1st January,.


1964 ·and,- ameodeci·i'a considerable' , portion · of ,th~ · First Schedule to the Customs buties Order.

1_9_~1 in .

th~ _ f~wiQg .manner.

,· ·; ,; :reiatlng Firstly,· :it im.proved ' the deffoitioris of_ several Tariff··· Codes apPeaiing in ihe First Schedttle; · e.g.

Tariff Code 04~ 421 to·, "unsweetened bistuits 'Of all _types; exciept'-" ship's biscuit~; f<?r ·liumall- c0nsumption" and so on.
Altogeth~ about 13·~ucn CC>des were _redefined ot· amplified to 'av<)id ambiguity~ Seclmdly, the Order_ intro duced· int(>' the Firilt'1Schedtll~ about 43': ne~ ·Codes falling· •un<ttt'' Groups 048, 081; ?

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; 24-3'and'so on~' · ·· · '.

These amendments 'were made in response to t~ request; of the Statistics DepartmcMttr oi- the· States' of Malaya and Singaporo to .improve the-i.com pilation ·of: ittade< istatistics.-• and .

also to 11leet the:particwar M«fl«Jf the -States of' sat>ah · ·and ·Sarawak.
Honourable Members wftt' note that many -of' the descriptidns ot :the Codes appearing in the Order are mther lengthy.

'fhis is, however.

essenthtl in order ·to· retam the precision of· th& Brnssel"s ·system of.

classiBcation.

and at 'the .same time to aasilt· merchants· to' <leclatc ·1bolr imports,;.

·.eom:ectly.

· The goods .

or amendments do ., not haV!Ct ·;revenue implications .

.ii.nee the .~istiQs.

mevanl rates of import duty remain un<;hidgN.

Tbey _ -~ • therefo.i;a.

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_ .reaArq .. ti,- as purely ~m~,;atn~~J'non~ _._':ff.

l·sho'Uld like_-to take .this opportunity to infom.t .the.

House .. that ~With elfect from !

]st January: 1964,iifte.

:, Malayan system of Trade · Oas.tilcatiort ... and CustomJ Tariff has been adopted.

-by the States of Sabah'and\.Sa~wak..l'hus, a mifurm<:aJstetn.

of- trade, cla.Ssifica~ and .

'OllStomsUariJf .

is, :nowi >, jn fotce throughout 1.ho States• of ·Malay.ma.

I am convinced: that such , ia 'turiirorm.


classification will be ustful ··in.--facilita• the _ cqmpilatio~ _ of ting not only accurate trade statistics -· throughout Malaysia but also contribute .

rowards the establishment of a common market.

Sir, I beg to, maye.

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~ ··-«i ·:.

:; , .J· '" -.. ~ The Minister of Commette .and .Jn4111try (Dr Lim; Swee,_~ .

.

.

Sir, I beg ttD, se()Ond the motion.

Ouesti~n put, and: agteecho.

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, ': , .. :·( ·· Resolv~ · That this House resolves'-'thaHit accordance with the powers vested in it by_ virtue of suit.section' (2,¥ of setfi.«>lr'.lO 'of ~.Cmtcms ,Cust.,nps,, puties Ordinaecz, ·• 1~1.

the (Amendment No: 8)'0rder, 1963, which has be,ep laid befQre .

the Ha"'"'' a& ,$tatute, 1!=-- 1'f q,32~f.196~rbe conpt~d.

·:"-.

"'~~~:- THE CUSTOMS DunE$ (~.

(>~ MEN'f) ORDER, l'64 ·_.

Enche' - Tan Slew Sin: ~r1 Spt~r.

~ir.


I beg to JJ10ve the ~9tion ~~~f ~ Jn: my.Qaqi~-.on thei <>.r~ J>~~ •.

'V.iz: ·Ttiat this House resolves that in ·aecotdance with the powets .

vested in• it ·l;y 1 virtue 0f sub-1ection (2) of sectiQ!l.

u>, of ~ Cust\)ms Ordmance, · 1952, l>uties (Amendmettt).

Order, 1964, which has.

been laid ~foref the HOuse _ _as Stat\lte f#per NQ.

43. of 19.6+ be :~SUlfil'Il)ed: : !

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· Sir; the put'pose of "1his ·Ordef is to amend t~ list:'in paragra.ph 6 ( 5) bf the Customs Duties' Order,· t 96 l by the incl;uSion of Uganda among' the ooun tries brititled •to Comm.onweatth pr$ ference in the ·States: 'of !

Malaya:·· in resPect of their!

goods amt pr~.

H0trourable Members are · aware ·lhat l.Jgandra.

is -tiow an indel.

'~ettt aflei so~r·nadon• and'il a membet.

'Of the'" Chstoiris .

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It.

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663 6-JULY 1964 .

'"Ur c' the Com:monwealth.


The Government has .

agreed .

tO continue to accord the Government of Uganda· Common- -Nealth •preference.

· 'rlii~ : Cie-clsion does~ 'ridt' involve atiy change in ; the treatment aecorded to Uganda .

as that country was• formerly eligible for Commonwealth preference as a dependent territory of the United Kingdom.

The 'object of the present measure '.is to · enabJe the goods and prdduce .ot~: Uganda to continue to qualify fut.
preferential .r~tes ut · duty when imported : intO · the · States· of Malaya 'since the· independent Govern· ment of Uganda is a member of the Commonwealth.

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, .Sir.

·1 beg· 't9 ,move.

· , Dr Lim · Swee Aun: Sir~ l ~g to seoond the motion: ' .

Question put, and·agreed to. '

Resolved, ; ' · That ttiMi.ffouse res"olve~ thal': fu aecotdlnfoe with the powers vested in it by.

virtue of sub-section (2) of section 10 of the Customs Ordinance, ·.
i9S2, the · · Ctfstoms Duties (Amendment) Order, 1964, which has been the House as statute Paper laid before t-Jo.

43 of 1964)>e confirmed.

· · · ' : .

, ' ' · THE ClJSTOMS DUTIES (AMEND· "MENT.

No.

2) .O~R, 1964 . '

·.

Enche' T8n Sie• ·Sin: Mr Spe.aker.

Sir, I beg the.

following to move .motiQl)., standiq in my.

,.

nauit on the Order P'aper: .


, c · , , · That this House resoives that in accordance witi the· P0WCrs ;vested ·in it1 by virtue of sub·~j!>I\ (2) of se¢on 10 of the Customs Ordinanci;, .· t9S~.c th~ Customs · Duties (Amenarilent No: :z) Order, '1964, which has been laid .

before· ·the House· as Statute Paper No.

44 of .1'964 be confirmed.

Sir, in ·para$_!aph 6 this.

dider seeks .


to include Kenya in the list of countries men (5) of the tioned Customs Duties Oider, 1961, in order to a.llaw imports 'from that country to enjoy preferential: treatment this country.

·,Honourable Members are aware that.

Kenya.

is now an indepen dent ·and sovereign: nation and is a member .

of .the Commonwealth.

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The Order"· enables.

';.goods: .

,and pro(\uce from to- cejoy }).tef erential treatment when iipported intCl·.

tms·r; country.
tms·r; country.

Such prcf«ential to , ,QODtinue ·Kenya in 664 treatment was accorded to it when it was a Colony.Of the United Kingdom.

There wilt; .. therefore, be no change in the treatment accorded to Kenya.

Sir, I beg to move.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: Sir, I beg to second the motioa.

Resolved, That this House resolves· th.at in accordance with the powers vested in it by virtue of sub-section (2) of section 10 of the Customs Ordinance, the Custortlt' Duties (Amendment No.
2) Order, 1964, which has been l..Cid :bef~rt• tfle'.

Ho\$ as •Statute Paper No.r44 of 1964 ,be confirme<i · 19S2, THE ~USToMS DUTIES (AMENJ).

; MENT :No.

3)' ORDER, 1964 Eache' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg the foflowing to move motion standing iIJ my name on the Order Paper.

viz: · · That this House resolves that in accordance with the powers vested in it by virtue of sub~section (2) of section 10 ~ the Custo~s Ordntance, the Cu$toms Duties (.Amerldment No.
3) Order, 1964, which has been lai4,1>efore the House as Statute Paper No.

4S of J964 be con6rmed.

l952, .

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Sir, the: Customs btities (Amend ment No.

3) 'Order.

1964, which came into effeet ori 4th June, 1964, increased the duty on .

enamel .

ware used for from 10% ad domestic purpQBes valorem .

to 35% ad · valorem.

The increase · in .

dqty affected.

all .. goods previousJy classifi~ un.der T~ Code 697 ~10.
This Code, has subsequently been: re•classifi.ed as 697 210-1 and 691 21Q•f respeetively i in, .

order to · ~~nts ; to .

declare theQ: assist imports of: .

.s~h .goo~ ~ectly.

It has 'been found necessary to increase the import duty on, enamel wate ·in order, to piovide protection to the .domestic, industry which·.

has bad face ' unfair ' .0001.petition.

to from imported ~ ·It· has been ascer· Utined that enamel ware .

of superior quality have ·be!en commg into this country · from .
· Commurtist China at comparati\iely.

low.

', prices.

This has been· possible partly because of dump· ing by ,Communist China and .

partly because.

of ,\ the.

practice of ... ueder ded.aratiao.

: .

:of · vakles by importer&, 665 6 JULY 1964 666 The position has been further aggra vated by the fact that enamel ware from Communist China and Hong Kong originally consigned to Indone sia have been diverted to the Malay sian market.
As a result of these fac imported enamel tors, the prices of ware have been reduced by as much as 15 to 20%.

Such imports have had a most depressing effect on the domes the domestic tic market and hence to forced manufacturer has been restrict output two-thirds of his capacity.
to and that carefully The state of the enamel ware indus try in this country and its competitive position vis-a-vis imports have been examined very the Government is satisfied that in order to afford more adequate protection the duty has to be raised.

It is con the figure of 35% ad sidered sufficient valorem would provide a margin of protection the home industry.
The new rate of duty would also bring the level of taxation on enamel ware to the same level as that on aluminium household utensils, the duty on which, the House will recall, has also been raised from 20% ad valorem to 35% ad valorem.

This increase in duty on enamel ware is not expected to cause any hardship to consumers since a large number of items of enamel ware are priced at a dollar or less a piece.

to yang menggunakan barang2 itu.


Kita tahu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ada-lah tujuan Yang Berhormat Menteri hen dak menaikkan chukai ini ia-lah untok hendak menggalakkan barang2 per- buatan dalam negeri ini, dan untok menekan kemasokan barang2 dari luar negeri sa-bagaimana yang di-sebut ia- itu negeri China dan Hongkong, tetapi hendak-lah Yang Berhormat Menteri juga mengambil berat di-atas keberatan chukai yang akan di-tambah itu dan akan menimpa kapada orang2 kampong yang menggunakan barang2 itu.
industries—I mean, Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I think it has to be accepted that if we want to industrialise, we must to our afford adequate protection domestic that principle is accepted by any country industrialised, to be which wants whether it be an Asian country, an European country, or a country in any other part of the world.

I can see no alternative to it.


The fears expressed by the Honourable Member are, if I exaggerated, may so, because I have pointed out in my speech that the cost of the vast majo rity of items of enamel ware would be a dollar or less a piece and so the impact on this country, even the poorest consumers, is not as harmful as painted by the Honourable Member.

the consumers rather say in Sir, I beg to move.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: Sir, I beg to second the motion.


Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah (Kelantan Hilir): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya bangun hendak berchakap sa- dikit dalam usul yang di-kemukakan oleh Yang Berhormat Menteri Ke- wangan untok menaikkan chukai bagi barang2 yang daripada di-perbuat aluminium.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya bangun ini suka-lah saya hendak mengingatkan Menteri tersebut bahawa kebanyakan orang miskin mengguna- kan dan memakai barang2 itu.
Oleh sebab yang demikian kenaikan chukai sa-tengah2-nya daripada 10 peratus kapada 30 peratus itu ada-lah akan menjadi satu keberatan yang besar kapada orang miskin di-kampong2 Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, Sir, may I comment a little on the speech of the Honourable the Minister of Finance.
It is agreed that if you want to industrialise, naturally, you must have protective tariffs to prevent dumping and the like, but I do hope that, while this House accepts this principle, this principle must not be extended to enable the local manufac to turers accumulate enormous profits by such protective measures on the part of the the Government.

Government, and the Finance, Honourable Minister would into consideration when he comes to this House to seek protective tariffs against foreign goods.
the Honourable Minister of Finance has denigrated the that in particular of I do hope industrialists It may be local take that this or 667 6 JULY 1964 668 stand taken by the Honourable Mem ber for Kelantan Hilir.

It looks to me that it is a difference of standards: the Honourable Member for Kelantan Hilir looks on $1 as a very big sum of money, whereas the Honourable the Minister of Finance, perhaps, does not look on $1 as a very big sum of money.
In this respect, Mr Speaker, Sir, I wish to second what has been stated by the Honourable Member for Kelantan Hilir, because $1 means a very big sum of money to people in the kampongs when they make about $50 to $60 a month each as compared to, perhaps, thousands of dollars by the Honourable Minister of Finance.

To them, there is a very big difference, if the customs duties are increased from 25 per cent to 35 per cent.
Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, if nobody in this House wishes to speak I would like to reply.

It is not fair to the Government, after making a reply, to be asked supplementary questions.

that for Batu Mr Speaker: Nobody else.
Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, in reply to the appeal by the Honour able Member the Government, particularly the Minister of Finance, should be careful that in the introduction of these protective duties, the manufacturers or industria lists should not be able to accumulate large profits as a result of such mea sures, I can assure the Honourable Member that before any protective duty is suggested for introduction, the accounts of the company are thor into by accountants, oughly gone even accountants on the Government side.
In future, now that the Tariff Advisory Board has been set up, protective duties will have to go through the Tariff Advisory Board, where there will be public hearings, and I am sure the introduction of such duties would be the interests of consumers, particularly those of the low income group, will be one of the factors to be considered before the protection of any locally manufactured goods would be con sidered.

Thank you.

justified—and Question put, and agreed to.


Resolved, That this House resolves that in accordance with the powers vested in it by virtue of sub-section (2) of section 10 of the Customs Ordinance, the Customs Duties (Amendment No.

3) Order, 1964, which has been laid before the House as Statute Paper No.

45 of 1964 be confirmed.

1952, CUSTOMS DUTIES (AMENDMENT No.


4) ORDER, 1964 Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the motion standing in my name on the Order Paper, viz: That this House resolves that in accordance with the powers vested in it by virtue of sub-section (2) of section 10 of the Customs Ordinance, the Customs Duties (Amendment No.

4) Order, 1964, which has been laid before the House as Statute Paper No.

46 of 1964 be confirmed.


1952, Sir, pending the extension of cer tain provisions of the Customs Ordi nance, 1952 to the other States of Malaysia, that is, Singapore, Sarawak and Sabah, it becomes necessary to amend the list of countries appearing under paragraph 6 (5) of the Customs including Duties Order, 1961 by therein the three States referred to.

This order seeks to implement such an amendment.


imported Honourable Members are aware that these three States as colonies of the United Kingdom enjoyed preferential treatment on their goods and produce when the States of into Malaya.

However, as a result of their change in status, their produce and goods no longer enjoy the preferential treatment accorded to dependent terri tories of the United Kingdom.
This Order, therefore, seeks to continue to from accord goods and produce Singapore, Sarawak and Sabah pre ferential treatment when imported into the States of Malaya.

This amendment would thus not change the previous to goods and treatment accorded produce from these States prior to the establishment of Malaysia.

Sir, I beg to move.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: Sir, I beg to second the motion.

Question put, and agreed to.


Resolved, That this House resolves that in accordance with the powers vested in it by virtue of 669 6 JULY 1964 670 sub-section (2) of section 10 of the Customs Ordinance, the Customs Duties (Amendment No.

4) Order, 1964, which has been laid before the House as Statute Paper No.

46 of 1964 be confirmed.

1952, CUSTOMS DUTIES (AMENDMENT No.

5) ORDER, 1964 Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.
to Sir, this Order came into effect on 26th June, 1964 and seeks to amend the First Schedule the Customs Duties Order, 1961 by replacing the ad valorem duty on motor vehicle tyres and tubes with specific duty.

Motor vehicle tyres and tubes falling under Tariff Code Nos.

629 101, 629 102, 629 103, 629 104, 629 106, 629 107, 629 108 and 629 111 are affected by this amendment.

The various Tariff re Codes have accordingly been classified, as shown in the Order.
Honourable Members will recall that when seeking the approval of the House to an increase in the import duty rates on motor vehicle tyres and tubes in 1963, I then stated that the increase in the duty rates was neces sary in order to protect our domestic industry.

The public has benefited the increase in duty since the from home manufacturer has made signifi cant price reductions on certain types of tyres and tubes.
However, it has been found that, in terms of protec tion, the increase in the duty rates has not provided the required protec the tion for increase im in duty rates has porters to under-declare the value of their imports in order to reduce the amount of duty payable thereon.

As a result of this practice, it has been found that the unit value of tyres, e.g.

motor cycle tyres, has been lower than the unit value of the same tyres prior to the increase in duty rates.
Conse quently, in there has been a revenue as duty has not been paid on the correct value of imports.

Secondly, the it has been increase in duty has led to a substan tial volume of tyres being imported Island but without a into Penang corresponding the increase either level of re-exports or in the level of reasons.

Firstly, led ascertained loss that two in duty paid imports from the Island.
It may, therefore, be concluded that the abnormal volume of imports of tyres into Penang Island was for purposes of smuggling.

In order to discourage the practice of under-declaration of value thereby reducing the loss in revenue, and at the same time to provide the required tariff protection to the home manu facturer, the Government has now the existing ad to replace decided valorem duty rates on motor vehicle tyres and tubes with specific duty based on weight.
The rates of specific duty are shown in the Order.

It is admitted that any specific duty based on weight will have an unequal impact on various types of motor vehicle tyres and tubes imported since value is not always strictly related to weight.
to tyres and tubes since the Government It is considered that the imposition of specific duty will not lead to an increase in the prices of home manu factured the domestic manufacturer has given an assurance that their prices would not be increased and they have sufficient stocks to meet public demand in full.
There is, there fore, no justification for an increase in prices as a result of the imposition of specific duty and members of the public are strongly advised to resist any demand for higher prices from dealers.

Sir, I beg to move, That this House resolves that in accordance with the powers vested in it by virtue of sub-section (2) of section 10 of the Customs Ordinance, the Customs Duties (Amendment No.

5) Order, 1964, which has been laid before the House as Statute Paper No.

47 of 1964 be confirmed.


1952, Dr Lim Swee Aun: Sir, I beg to second the motion.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, Sir, may I ask the Minister of Finance that in moving this tariff protection, is he aware of the fact that the local manufacturer of the tyres and tubes in this country is making use of synthetic rubber?
Mr Speaker, Sir, this is where when I just now asked for a careful examination of tariffs being imposed before they are being brought to this 671 6 JULY 1964 672 in the the manufacture of House, because while we want to indus trialise we do not want local industrialists to make huge profits or to serve foreign interests.

Now, it is well known that Dunlops in Petaling Jaya makes use of a great deal of synthetic rubber their tyres.
We know that Dunlops and other organisations of the same nature are worldwide, huge combines.

What they cannot sell in Canada or in the United States they dump into Malaya, and we in huge who are producing rubber quantities and trying to sell rubber— sending trade missions to behind the Iron Curtain—are using synthetic rub ber.
As such I do hope the Government will re-examine this ques tion and see that the local industrialists, even if it means lesser profits for them, to use natural should be persuaded rubber which this in country, rather than this country being served as a dumping ground for syn thetic rubber of these huge combines which use us like playthings in their hands.
is produced that tyres and Enche' Geh Chong Keat (Penang Utara): Mr Speaker, Sir, I am con strained, solely in the public interest, to comment on this new legislation to the import duty increase still further on automobile tubes of foreign manufacture.

I fully realise that this is a step to afford protection to the local tyre industry, but this is also crippling to business and the economic stability of the country.
It will also kill all healthy competition and in the end the consumers, that is the public, will have to pay.

Sir, I would not like to debate with the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Commerce and Industry, because it is their primary duty to set up industries, to find new revenue, and to improve our country.
However, I would request both these Honourable Ministers that they must not only look forward towards attract ing capital to the nation but also to look at the amount of sacrifice the local citizens have got to make.

Mr Speaker, Sir, the Minister spoke on protection for the industries.
As I said, he should also forward towards the view of the man-in-the- street, that is the consumer, and not look only to protect the Dunlop Company, which is the sole tyre manufacturer in this country—you have, in a way, pro tected it with income tax exemption and also the 77% protective duty.

If we give full protection to a manu facturer, then we will be in a way encouraging the manufacturer to make huge profits by retaining his price.
If we stop foreign imports as a means of supporting the Honourable Ministers must be in a position to request for and go through the cost of production figures of the manufacturer to find out that his profit is being kept to the minimum, that is the cost plus a certain percentage of profit for his shareholders.

industry, both this encouraged Mr Speaker, Sir, other countries, too, have their manufacturers.
They have also industrialisation— nations such as Thailand, Philippines, Formosa, New Zealand and Japan.
I do not like to bring in the affairs of other nations; but in the form of com parison I say that among all these countries, which are trying to attract capital, ours has imposed the highest import duty which will, in a way, drive away capital, unless both the Ministers will give an assurance that they are prepared to give the same facilities to other capitalists, who are prepared to set up such tyre factories in our country, and that we will accord them the same protection.
I have been informed that in Singapore they have already set up one.

If we have more, then with competition among the local manufacturers and with competition against foreign imports, I am sure that such healthy competition in the con sumers market and in the manufacturers' market will, in turn, improve the pro duction and the quality of goods as well as benefit the consumers in our nation.

That, I believe, should be the sole criterion in giving protection.
It is not so in the case of some local industries given pioneer status.

I would give just one example.

Cream and other mate rials produced in other countries are sent the containers and they just fill them up with a machine, which is also imported; one man is employed to look after a few machines, and they just fill up together with into Malaya 673 6 JULY 1964 674 the tubes and call it pioneer industry— and that is local product.
Mr Speaker, Sir, local product should be in the sense that in the manufacture of local tyres, local rubber and local fabrics (or imported fabrics, galvanised wire or steel wire, until we can produce them) should be used.

With these local raw materials we can then produce a real 100 per cent Malaysian manufactured product.

Such manufacture deserves 100 per cent support from our Govern ment.
But if it is going to be a make shift or a "put-up" front under this pioneer status attraction foreign capital, with all sorts of materials coming in and then being assembled in Malaya, rather than from local raw materials, this sort of encouragement will be all right as a stepping stone towards the building up of our econo mic stability and giving employment to our citizens.
However, if we are going to give 100 per cent protection to only one company against competi tion from foreign manufacturers, it is not going to benefit the residents of the country.

It needs to be reviewed by both the Honourable Minister of Finance and the Honourable Minister of Commerce and Industry.

Thank you.

to Enche' Mohd.


Daud bin Abdul Samad (Besut): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya telah mengikuti perbahathan di- dalam Dewan ini, dan dalam soal menambah dan meninggikan chukai ini kalau kita pandang sa-pintas lalu maka kita rasa bahawa orang yang akan terkena chukai ini ia-lah kompeni2 atau pun mana2 badan perusahaan.
Tetapi yang menjadi masaalah yang mesti di- fikirkan oleh Menteri yang berkenaan dan Ahli2 Yang Berhormat di-dalam Dewan ini, mithal-nya menambahkan atau meninggikan chukai tayar yang di- bawa daripada luar negeri.
Pada sa- pintas lalu juga saya mengatakan kita boleh setuju, tetapi saya ingin menda- pat ketegasan dan penjelasan daripada Yang Berhormat Menteri Kewangan, kalau hendak menggalakkan perusahaan tayar dalam negeri ini, maka sudah- kah di-buat satu chara kawalan harga- nya, dan ada-kah benar2 perusahaan tayar itu akan di-modali dan akan di-usahakan oleh ra'ayat negeri ini?
luar sudah Ini menjadi khuatir benar buat di- Persekutuan Malaysia ini mithal-nya atau pun di-Persekutuan Tanah Melayu ini, tetapi modal yang lebeh besar itu ia-lah di-diam2kan atau pun di-masok- kan ka-dalam negeri ini.
Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tidak ada erti, kalau tidak di-buat kawalan harga yang betul oleh Kerajaan yang ada hari ini kita sekat barang itu tidak masok dari luar, kemudian bila barang dari luar tidak masok dalam negeri ini maka pemodal2 dalam negeri ini akan menaikkan pula harga barang2 itu melambong, dan barang2 dari tidak di- masokkan maka ra'ayat negeri ini juga yang akan terima akibat yang akan membeli barang2 dengan harga yang mahal.
Sebab kita tahu ada orang me- mikirkan bagaimana yang saya katakan tadi ia-itu kompeni yang akan mem- bayar chukai itu, bukan ra'ayat, tetapi tahu-lah kita dan saya perchaya ada orang yang menjadi ahli perniagaan dan menjadi Ahli Yang Berhormat atau pun wakil ra'ayat dalam Dewan ini, tiap2 sen yang di-belanjakan sama ada chukai, transport atau pun apa juga chukai maka itu akan di-kira dan akan di-jadikan modal.
Kalau semua segala chukai, transport dan lain2 itu di-jadikan modal maka harga barang2 itu mithal-nya tayar $40, maka sudah tentu akan di-jual dengan harga $45 atau pun $50.

Jadi, seluroh ra'ayat negeri ini juga yang akan kena bayar lebeh mahal.

Jadi, kita pandang soal tayar, soal kechil, tetapi kalau tayar itu akan di-naikkan dengan harga yang mahal maka bas dan motokar dan lain2 juga akan menaikkan tambang- nya, maka seluroh ra'ayat negeri ini juga akan kena bayar atau pun akan kena belanja lebeh mahal.
Jadi, ini-lah, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya harap Menteri Kewangan memikirkan dengan halus supaya ada satu kawalan harga yang betul2 dengan tidak mengenakan kapada orang ramai akan membelanja- kan lebeh tinggi dalam negeri ini.
Sebab, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, seka- rang ini kalau kita halusi betul2 maka kita dapati orang2 kampong penda- patan-nya kechil, tetapi barang2 makin sa-hari makin mahal, tetapi kapada orang yang ada mempunya'i pendapatan yang tetap, mithal-nya wakil ra'ayat 675 6 JULY 1964 676 atau pun Ahli2 Yang Berhormat di- dalam Dewan ini maka tidak terasa benar.
Akan tetapi kapada ra'ayat yang kais pagi makan pagi dan kais petang makan petang sukar pula hendak men- dapat pekerjaan maka terasa-lah oleh mereka itu bahawa dengan di-naikkan chukai harga barang makin mahal maka mereka pun sa-makin leteh dan lemah saperti hendak mendapatkan pekerjaan dan susah hendak hidup da lam negeri ini.
Bila susah hendak hidup di-dalam negeri ini maka akan timbul-lah bermacham2 perkara di- dalam negeri ini; apabila timbul per kara bermacham2 maka akan timbul pula bermacham2 tudohan ka-sana ka- mari, dan ini-lah masaalah-nya yang mesti di-fikir dan di-timbangkan oleh Menteri Kewangan yang mengemuka- kan Usul ini.

Sakian-lah, terima kaseh.


Enche' Abu Bakar bin Hamzah (Bachok): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya suka menarek perhatian Yang Ber hormat Menteri yang berkenaan ia-itu nampak-nya di-dalam negara kita ini apabila kekurangan kewangan, Men teri yang berkenaan itu tidak ada jalan lain melainkan mengemukakan Un- dang2 hendak menaikkan chukai2.
Jadi, saya berharap kapada Yang Berhormat itu sa-lain Menteri yang berkenaan daripada mengorek2kan sa-barang benda sama ada di-luar dan di-dalam untok menaikkan chukai, tidak-kah Menteri itu dapat mengemukakan lain ia-itu satu jalan yang boleh kita meli- patkan kekayaan negeri ini dengan membanyakkan lagi perusahaan2 atau pun perniagaan2 yang chukai-nya tidak di-naikkan, tetapi dapat di-kumpulkan dengan kadar yang lama ia-itu kadar yang rendah, tetapi banyak pendapatan- nya berbanding dengan chara yang sudah menjadi kebiasaan kapada Men teri kita yang di-segani itu ia-itu satu jalan hanya menaikkan chukai ka-atas ra'ayat sahaja.
Sakian-lah, Tuan Yang di-Pertua.

jalan Enche' Mohamed Yusof bin Mah- mud (Temerioh): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya bersetuju sangat-lah bagaimana chadangan Yang Berhormat Menteri untok menjaga kepentingan industry kita dengan menaikkan chukai2 untok barang2 yang di-masokkan di-dalam negeri ini.

Tetapi rasa saya akibat-nya ia-itu barang ini akan masok juga, dan sa-bagai adat manusia, Tuan Yang di- Pertua, suka memikirkan perkara2 atau barang2 yang baik dan elok.
Sebab itu kita tidak khuatir membeli barang yang mahal itu.

Jadi, rasa saya patut Yang Berhormat Menteri ini memikirkan ada-kah barang2 yang di-keluarkan oleh industry kita itu sama taraf dan sama dia punya mutu-nya dengan segala barang2 yang di-bawa ka-dalam negeri ini.

Sebab kalau sudah sama maka saya rasa patut juga, kita, untok hendak menjaga kepentingan industry kita itu di-sekat barang2 luar negeri itu masok ka-negeri ini.
Dengan chara itu segala industry kita ini terjaga kepentingan2- nya, dan dengan jalan ini, sa-bagaimana uchapan Menteri Perdagangan, ia-itu tidak ada satu2 jalan untok menaikkan harga2 itu tadi, maka saya rasa lebeh mudah dengan chara itu, dan rasa saya chara2 menyekat langsong barang2 ini daripada masok ka-dalam negeri ini, akan memberi faedah yang besar untok menjaga kepentingan industry yang saya katakan dalam negeri ini.
Jadi, saya rasa dalam chara menaik ini, patut-lah dapat di- kan chukai timbangkan dan di-fikirkan supaya di-fikirkan dengan halus dalam chara memberi chukai ini.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, I am indeed very glad to notice so many Honourable Members expressing con cern that the interests of the consumers should be protected.

Sir, I can assure the House that the Government itself is very concerned that the consumers should not be exploited.
However, if we want to improve the standard of this country and create living employment opportunities, one of the methods I think Honourable Members accept this method of creating new employment.

industrialisation, and in is Perhaps, the Honourable Member for Penang Utara does not agree to indus trialisation but prefers tourism.
How ever, as the Honourable Minister of Finance has explained, protective duty in is necessary because this change in the method of protective duty from ad valorem to specific duty by weight is considered to necessary by Government so as this particular case 677 6 JULY 1964 678 it industrialise.

But prevent the under-declaration by impor ters.

I am surprised that the Honour able Member for Penang Utara should say that by having high protective duty we shall be driving away capital.
I would have thought it should be the other way round: the higher the duty the better the opportunity is for capital to is not our intention to give the maximum or high protective duties.

Our intention is to assist the newly formed companies in their early stages through protective duty so that they can be viable.

But once they are viable and are able to compete with then these protective duties will be lowered or even abolished.

Our policy is free private enterprise and as such we encourage competition.
We do not want monopoly the Honourable Members will go through the list of the pioneer certificates that have been issued in Malaysia, most likely he will find that there are more than duplications of industries in this country.

imported goods, this country.

in If The Honourable Member for Penang Utara has criticised that pioneer certi ficates should only be given to com panies that manufacture 100 per cent and from local raw materials.
We would certainly like to aim at such high ideals but, unfortunately, we do not have all the primary raw materials in this coun try.

Therefore, it is necessary sometimes to import certain primary raw materials from abroad.

If the Honourable Mem bers will consider, most manufacturing countries in the whole world do not have all the primary commodities and them.

We the they have to import under-developed country have been exporting our primary commodities to the developed countries.
Similarly if we want to industrialise, we will have to import certain primary raw commodi ties that are not produced or not available in this country.

But I can assure the Honourable Member from Penang Utara that we do not give pioneer status for pure assembling.

That is why in my policy statement on the motor industry, assembling of motor cars in this country, I have stated that the process of assembling will not get pioneer status.
It is only the manu facture of parts, but only when there is the process of manufacturing, that pioneer status is given to the companies.

The Honourable Member for Batu is worried that Dunlops in Malaya, which produces tyres here, is being used as a channel for dumping synthetic rubber from its parent company abroad.

I can assure the Honourable Member that importation of synthetic for the use by this particular company is controlled by the Government.
The use of syn thetic rubber in the tyres made in this country is necessary not because it is cheaper than natural rubber but because of its technical qualities.

In particular, if a tyre were made of 100 per cent natural rubber, the total mileage of that tyre would be much less than a tyre which contains a certain percentage of synthetic.

That is one of the reasons why synthetic rubber is permitted to be used in our locally manufactured tyres.
We could, of course, insist on 100 per cent natural rubber for our tyres, but I am sure if we do that, our local con sumers will be the first to complain, in that it will not have the same tech nical qualities as the tyre that is being imported.

Besides its extra mileage, it has also qualities of friction resistance and skid-proof, so that you can take corners at higher speeds.
If he heard The Honourable Member for Besut was concerned that through this amend ment there might be increases in the charges of transportation in this coun try.

the Honourable Minister of Finance clearly, he would have known that since this local com tyres, the pany has been producing price of the tyres manufactured by this company, which is practically through out the whole range of tyres used in this country, is cheaper than before we introduced tariff protection.
The volume produced by this company could be increased further if people would use more of this brand.

I am afraid most of us in this country are very "brand- conscious".

So, if we use more of the locally made tyres, the cost would be cheaper, not higher.

But if the public would insist on imported tyres, then, of course, their cost of transport would be higher.
679 6 JULY 1964 680 that the House The Honourable Member for Temer- loh has asked whether or not the quality of our local manufactures is as good as those imported.

Now, before a company is given pioneer status, it has to state the standards to which its products would be manufactured.

In this particular case of local tyres, I can assure the standard manufactured is as good, or perhaps even better, than the imported ones.
However, it is also the policy of the to get standards estab Government lished in this country, and that is why we now have a Colombo Plan expert visiting this country to advise us on what standards are acceptable to this country, so that in future we shall be able to ensure ourselves that the manu factures in this country are of good standard inter national markets.

acceptable and in Question put, and agreed to.


Resolved, That this House resolves that in accordance with the powers vested in it by virtue of sub-section (2) of section 10 of the Customs Ordinance, the Customs Duties (Amendment No.

5) Order, 1964, which has been laid before the House as Statute Paper No.

47 of 1964 be confirmed.


1952, MALAYAN RAILWAY Conversion of Rehabilitation Loans into Equity Investment Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.

the House rehabilitation The purpose of this Resolution is to to seek the approval of loans convert the to $34,779,617.91 granted amounting by the Government to the Malayan Railway Administration after the War into an investment in the equity of the Railway with effect from 1st January, 1959.
This decision is in line with the recommendation the Railway of Economics Commission whose Report was published and the House as Command Paper No.

1 of to 1962.

The Government decision into convert the rehabilitation an equity in Command Paper No.

2 of 1963 being the the Government's statement on the of financial investment was stated recommendations laid before loans the arguments Commission and for this decision were set out in detail in to that Paper.
However, facilitate the purpose of this Resolution, I would like to sketch briefly the circumstances relating to this matter.

in order an understanding of for the War.

the policy of Sir, the Commission recommended in Section 16.37 of its Report that the Railway Administration should not be called upon to pay interest on $34.78 the loan by million advanced as Government rehabilitation, since such an expenditure by the Govern ment should be considered as part of the price paid In for Command Paper No.
42 of 1963, the insofar Government pointed out that as the Government concerning the financing of the Railway Administration was concerned, it was governed by a Resolution of the former Legislative Council dated 26th Novem the terms of ber, 1953.

Under that Resolution, the Railway was called upon to repay loans granted by the to the com Government subsequent mencement of the Loans Ordinance, the 1951.

The policy adopted by Government been had, strictly in accordance with the terms of that Resolution.
Although the Resolu tion made no exception in favour of rehabilitation loans, the then Financial Secretary made such an exception in his speech introducing the Motion.

The Malayan Railway Administration had always maintained, therefore, that no interest should be payable on loans rehabilitation purposes provided as the expenditure incurred did not its earning capacity.
The enhance Government, however, on the other hand, had always maintained that the terms of as a whole were very fair to the Admini stration, especially since some of the expenditure financed from rehabilita tion loans could have contained an element of improvement although this could not be precisely calculated.
the 1953 Resolution therefore, for Nevertheless, after careful considera tion of the Commission's views, the Government decided that with effect from 1st January, 1959 the sum of $34,779,617.91, i.e.

the actual amount involved, should cease to be regarded 681 6 JULY 1964 682 it should be in as repayable interest-bearing loans and regarded as an that the equity of investment the Railway subject to the approval of this House.
vSir, the Resolution now before the House, if adopted, would mean that the Railway Administration would no longer be obliged to pay interest on the rehabilitation loans and that the equity investment would bear interest only to the extent to which the Administration a profit.
Furthermore, the Railway Administra tion will no to apply annually to the House to approve the and moratorium redemption charges on loans which it has been doing since 1959. interest these longer need earn the on the Sir, I beg to move, That this House resolves that pursuant to paragraph 4 of the Statement (No.
2) on the Report of the Railway Economics Commis sum of $34,779,617.91 cents sion, representing rehabilitation the balance of loans given by the Federal Government to the Malayan Railway shall cease to be regarded as a repayable interest-bearing loan with effect from the 1st day of January, 1959, and shall instead, be deemed to be an invest ment in the equity of the Railway with effect from that date, bearing interest only to the extent to which the Railway earns a profit on such equity.
Dr Lim Swee Aun: Sir, I beg to second the motion.

regarding Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, Sir, may I seek clarification from the Minister of Finance this matter?

I see that it is the declared intention of the House to convert the Malayan Railway into a corporation.

Is it the intention of the Government to load the yet unborn corporation with this investment in the equity of the Railway?

How does this tie up with the new set-up that the Govern ment intends to set up?
Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I am afraid I cannot understand the logic of the Honourable Member for Batu.

If, as he says, it is the inten tion of the Government to turn the Malayan Railway Administration into a corporation—and that is substantially true—then one would it would be the interest of the Railway into an equity to convert this loan think that loan, to pay to understand.
If, investment, and the reason would be for quite simple example, this sum of $34 million were the Railway to remain as a would be obliged interest charges and redemption charges year the burden would, after year, and therefore, be greater, whereas, if this money, or if this sum, were converted into an investment, no dividend or interest need be paid, unless and until the Railway earns a profit.

Therefore, the load would be far easier to bear if this sum were converted into an investment.
the Question put, and agreed to.

Resolved, That this House resolves that pursuant to paragraph 4 of the Statement (No.
2) on the Report of the Railway Economics Commis sum of $34,779,617.91 sion, cents representing rehabilitation the balance of loans given by the Federal Government to the Malayan Railway shall cease to be regarded as a repayable interest-bearing loan with effect from the 1st day of January, 1959, and shall, instead, be deemed to be an invest ment in the equity of the Railway with effect from that date, bearing interest only to the extent to which the Railway earns a profit on such equity.
DEVELOPMENT (SUPPLEMENTARY) (No.

4) ESTIMATES, 1963 Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the motion standing in my name on the Order Paper be referred to a committee of the Whole House.

the addition of Honourable Members will be aware that the additional provision so far approved for 1963 under the previous Supplementary Development three to $109,028,984.

Estimates amounts the sum of With $2,831,425 now the Development (Supplementary) (No.
4) Estimates, 1963, the total appropriation in respect of all expenditure from the Development Fund for 1963 amounts to $605,048,174.

Actual expenditure, however, the is estimated region of $455 million.

required under to be in in respect of The largest supplement now required is loan expenditure amounting to $2.5 million under Head 138—Water Supplies to meet the additional requirements of the additional 683 6 JULY 1964 684 sum of $274,315 State of Perak in connection with the Kinta Water Supply Scheme.
The rest of the items requiring supplements are relatively small except for Head 152— Minister of External Affairs, where an additional is required to purchase the property at No.

45, Belgrave Square, London, to house the Chancery of our High Commission there.

The actual cost of this building was $1,285,715 but the larger portion of this amount has been found from the 1963 provision.

Small supplements are required for Head 103—Broadcasting, Head 126—Mini stry of Rural Development and Head 149—Marine.
There are also two token votes in respect of Head 118—Royal Malaysia Police and Head 144— Telecommunications the purpose of creating new sub-heads.

for Further details of the expenditure for which approval is sought will be given by the Ministers concerned when the Estimates are discussed under the various Heads in the Committee Stage.
Sir, I beg to move, "That pursuant to Standing Order 67c the following Motion be referred to a Committee of the whole House: 'That this House resolves that an addi tional sum not exceeding $2,831,425 be expended out of the Development Fund in respect of the financial year 1963, and that to meet the purpose of the Heads and Sub-heads set out in the second column of the Statement the Table as laid on Command Paper No.
14 of 1964, there be appropriated the sums specified opposite such Heads and Sub-heads in the eighth and ninth columns thereof."

Dr Lint Swee Aim: Sir, I beg to second the motion.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, Sir, may I refer to Sub-Head 58 that the Honourable Minister of Finance spoke about just now, this sum of $21/2 million that is being loaned to the Perak State Government.
Mr Speaker, Sir, I am not against such a loan, but I do not know whether the Government is aware that the cost of such schemes is often jacked up by the fact that P.W.D.

expatriate officers prior to their Malayanisation very often give out such contracts to consultant firms in this country and after Malayanisation join such firms.

Naturally, when they thing, the cost of such do such a In the 1964 Development projects rise.
I do hope that we can get an explanation from the Honourbale the Minister of Works on this matter.

Mr Speaker, Sir, in connection with Head 149, Marine Landing Jetty, Pulau Langkawi, I notice that the original cost estimated was $237,058.

We are now told that the final cost is going to be $272,059 as shown in the last page (Supple of mentary) Estimates.

these 1963 (Supplementary) Esti Development mates we are asked to approve a sum of $28,461, in the other Estimates we are asked further sum of $35,000.
Mr Speaker, Sir, I do not know whether the increased to do with any cost has anything sentimental the Prime Minister may want to make to Pulau Langkawi, since that probably was his first posting as a Civil Servant in this country.

In any case, Sir, the increased cost to me needs elucidation by the Honourable Minister concerned.

to approve a journey that the full I was not able Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: Mr to Speaker, Sir, comprehend intention and scope of the suggestion made by the Member for Batu.
As I took it, and I stand to correction, his charge was mainly that some of our water supply schemes are given to consultant firms for I correct?

for advice.

Am study and Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Contracts are farmed out to consultant farms.
the Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: If that be so, then I would like to state that in a number of larger water supply schemes, we do get consultant firms, and these consultant firms are of a fairly good reputation and they have been able to help us in the scheming and engineering of many of these water supply projects.
The Minister of Transport (Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir): Mr Speaker, Sir, in answer to the Honour able Member for Batu, the construction of the Landing Jetty at Pulau Lang kawi was completed in 1962, but the supplementary provision of $28,461 is required to meet the cost of certain extras such as installation of water mains, electrical services to the jetty 585 6 JULY 1964 586 in from lights on including navigational the dolphins and on the main jetty.
As no provision was made the 1963 Estimates, the additional expenditure was met the Contingencies Reserve, which was shown in Advance Warrant No.

21 of 1963.

But this sum was received far too late in the year for the work to be completed.

There fore, the supplementary provision now sought under Sub-head 5, Head 149, is for this particular purpose.

Question put.

and agreed to.


Resolved, That pursuant to Standing Order 67c the following Motion be referred to a Committee of the whole House: "That this House resolves that an addi tional sum not exceeding $2,831,425 be expended out of the Development Fund in respect of the financial year 1963, and that to meet the purpose of the Heads and Sub-heads set out in the second column of the Statement the Table as laid on Command Paper No.
14 of 1964, there be appropriated the sums specified opposite such Heads and Sub-heads in the eighth and ninth columns thereof".

Mr Speaker: The sitting is suspended till half past four this afternoon.

Sitting suspended at 1 p.m.

Sitting resumed at 4.30 p.m. (Mr Speaker in the Chair) MOTION THE DEVELOPMENT (SUPPLEMENTARY) (No.

4) ESTIMATES, 1963 House immediately resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House.

The Development (Supplementary) (No.

4) Estimates, 1963 considered in Committee.


(Mr Speaker in the Chair) to required to enable sum of $15,000 under Head 103, sub-head 17—Broadcasting—for build ings in connection with the Extension of Television Service the West Coast of the Peninsula.

As the House is aware, our Television Service is now being established as a regular service its having successfully gone through pilot stage since its inauguration in December last year.
In all, 14 sites would be the the re-transmission of relaying and programmes to cover the whole of the West Coast and so far only two of these sites have been established.

The sum of $15,000 is supplementary to the provision already made for the acquir ing and preparation of sites, without which transmission cannot be effected.
The money had already been advanced the Contingencies Reserve and the inclusion of this item in the Supplementary Development Estimates is to allow the reimburse ment of the sum so advanced.

these from Sir, I beg to move.

Enche' Stephen Yong Kuet Tze (Sarawak): Would the Minister enligh ten the House as to whether he has in mind the extension of Television to Sarawak and Sabah and, if so, when would that be?
Enche' Mohamed Khir Johari: Mr Chairman, plans are already in hand for the starting of Television Service in Sabah and Sarawak, but how far we are going to move will depend on the money made available to the Ministry for such service.

Question put, and agreed to.

The sum of $15,000 for Head 103 agreed to stand part of the Develop ment (Supplemental) (No.

4) Esti mates, 1963.

Head 118— Head 103— the Development Mr Chairman: I propose that the expenditure shown under Head 103 of (Supplementary) (No.
4) Estimates, 1963, be approved.

The Minister of Agriculture and Co operative (Enche' Mohamed Khir Johari): Mr Chairman, Sir, I wish to seek the approval of the House for a Mr Chairman: I propose that the expenditure shown under Head 118 of (Supplementary) the Development (No.

4) Estimates, 1963, be approved.

The Minister of Home Affairs and Minister of Justice (Date' Dr Ismail): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I beg to move that a token sum of $10 under Head 118— Royal Malaysia Police—be approved.
687 6 JULY 1964 688 the formation With of Malaysia the Government agreed to the estab lishment of three-and-a-half Companies of the Police Field Force for duty in Sabah.

Accordingly, a sub-head was created under the 1963 Development Estimates to provide for their accom modation.

As the for accommodation the planning stage only, a token provision of $10 only is required.

the plan in is Question put, and agreed to.

The sum of $10 for Head 118 agreed to stand part of the Develop (No.
4) Esti ment (Supplementary) mates, 1963.

Head 126— The Assistant Minister of National and Rural Development (Enche' Abdul- Rahman bin Ya'kub): Mr Chairman, Sir, I beg to move that the supple mentary provision of $3,927 under Head 126—Ministry of Rural Develop ment—be approved.

Sir, the provision under sub-head 14 is for the purpose of regularising an incorrectly debited expenditure made in 1961.

The amount was in fact fully covered by the balance of the provision made in 1961.
Therefore, in fact, no extra expenditure is involved at all.

What happened was that some time in 1961 a small bridge was built in the State of Penang Penang, but charged the wrong account, which was only discovered in 1963 when the accounts for 1961 and 1962 had already been closed.

It is to regularise the position that the supple ment is sought for.

incorrectly to it Sir, I beg to move.

Question put, and agreed to.


The sum of $3,927 under Head 126 agreed to stand part of the Develop ment (Supplementary) (No.

4) Esti mates, 1964.

Heads 138 and 144— The Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications (Dato' V. T. Sam- banthan): Mr Chairman, Sir, with your permission, take Heads 138, Water Supplies, and 144, Telecommunications, together.
I would like to (Mr Chairman indicates assent) Sir, under the Agreement entered into in July, 1962 between the Govern ment of the Federation of Malaya and the Government of the State of Perak, a loan of $17 million was granted to the State Government for two develop ment projects, namely, Kinta Water Supply Scheme amounting to $4,500,000 and Dindings Water Supply Scheme, amounting to $12,500,000.
According to that Agreement, a sum of $2,000,000 was to be drawn on 15-1-63 and another sum of $2,500,000 on 15-6-63 in Supply of Kinta Water respect Scheme.

But in the 1963 Development Estimates only $2 million was provided for the the Scheme.

Accordingly remaining sum of $21/2 million had to the Con be made available tingencies Reserve.
the Second Schedule from to With regard to Head 144, this sum relates to the obtaining of one outside broadcasting unit and towards the cost of electrical installation and screening stations at Gunong for microwave Pulai.

This requirement was not entered in the 1963 Budget proposals, as it was a new proposal arising from Cabinet decision.

It has been found possible to quote savings.

The House is now asked to vote only a token sum of $10.

fault.
fault.

When Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Chairman, Sir, mea culpa—my I spoke on Head 118 just now, perhaps, I did not express myself quite clearly so that I succeeded in confusing the Minister of Works—once again mea culpa.

the projects Mr Chairman, Sir, just now I asked two things about this expenditure: one was that works of this nature had been to farmed out part of consultant engineers and part of them had been done, I believe, by the Public itself.
That has Works Department been satisfactorily explained by the I did not get an Minister.

What answer the I asked this: to was Minister whether he was aware that many expatriate officers of the P.W.D.. before Malayanisation, out these contracts to consultant firms and joined that they on Malayanisation farmed 689 6 JULY 1964 690 these consultant firms, either locally or in London.

Now, Sir, that is a practice that must be prohibited and must be looked the Honourable Minister of Works.
into by the that take joined the case of I need not quote many examples.

Let us last expatriate State Engineer in Johore— one Mr Cummings.

Before he got himself Malayanised, he saw to it that a good deal of the work went to a firm known as Keene & Co. On Malayanisation he firm, and he is still with that firm; and that firm is carrying out a major part of the P.W.D.

's works in Johore.

Sir, I wish the Ministry of Works to look into this matter and see that such mal-practices are corrected.
I do not know whether Mr Cummings is a Malaysian citizen the now, as has been claimed by Acting Prime Minister, when he said twenty had been Malayanised, that had taken citizenship papers and, therefore, they are entitled to remain in this country.

I do not know whether Mr Cummings that category.

If he does not come under that category, then surely he must be packed off to U.K. where he belongs.
comes into Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: Mr Chairman, Sir, I will certainly look into the the proposition made by Honourable Member for Batu.

As far as I know whenever there have been requests by ex-engineers for employ ment locally here or to be employed in consultant engineers firms and to be stationed here, we have decidedly refused such requirements.

However, with regard to Mr Cummings, I will certainly look into the matter.

a sum of $38,163 under Sub-heads 5 and 9, Head 149, Marine, be approved.
In regard to Sub-head 5, Landing Jetty, Pulau Langkawi, this jetty was completed in 1962, but a supplemen tary provision of $28,461 is required to meet the cost of certain extras such as installation of water mains and electrical services to the jetty including navigational lights on the dolphins and on the main jetty.

As no provision was made in the 1963 Estimates, the additional expenditure was met from the Contingencies Reserve as seen in Advance Warrant No.

21/1963.
21/1963.

This the sum was not availed of Warrant was received far too late in the year for the work to be completed.

The now sought under Sub-head 5, Head 149, is for this purpose.

supplementary provision as in for Now, regard is required this scheme to Sub-head 9, Construction of a Slipway at Marine Base, Glugor, is now completed.

But a supplementary provi the sion of $9,702 payment now exacted in full for the project.
As no provision was made in the additional the 1963 Estimates, expenditure was met from the Con tingencies Reserve as Advance Warrant No.

21 of 1963.

Thus, the supple mentary provision now sought under Sub-head 9, Head 149, is for this purpose.

Sir, I beg to move.

Question put, and agreed to.

The sum of $38,163 for Head 149 agreed to stand part of the Develop ment (Supplementary) (No.

4) Esti mates, 1963.

Question put, and agreed to.


Head 152— The sums of $2,500,000 for Head 138 and $10 for Head 144 agreed to stand part of the Development (Supple mentary) (No.

4) Estimates, 1963.

Head 149— Mr Chairman; I now propose that the sum of $38,163 for Head 149 stand part of the Development (Supplemen tary) (No.

4) Estimates, 1963.
4) Estimates, 1963.

Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: Mr Chairman, Sir, I beg to move that Enche' Abdul-Rahman bin Ya'kub: Mr Chairman, Sir, I beg to move that the sum of $274,315 shown under Head of External 152, Ministry Affairs, be approved.

A total provision of $2,932,558 was approved by this House for expendi ture by the Ministry of External Affairs in connection with its building projects overseas.
is a normal practice, as far as possible of course, to acquire properties, namely buildings It 691 6 JULY 1964 692 and land, for use by the various mis sions overseas.

Such purchases will amount to economic savings on the Recurrent Expenditure, which will otherwise have to be met for rentals of buildings, etc.

to 1963, the With reference total sum allocated was for building projects in Bangkok, Tokyo, Bonn, Karachi and London.

However, this amount approved falls short to the extent of $274,315.
As it was decided that the building larger than originally antici pated be purchased in order to house the various units for the High Commission which are rather the various parts of scattered London, and also to provide more space consequent upon the expansion the of the High Commission after the coming into being of Malaysia, provision of $274,315 under column 8 of page 2 of Command Paper No.

14 of 1964 is now sought.

in London in Sir, I beg to move.

Question put, and agreed to.


The sum of $274,315 for Head 152 agreed to stand part of the Develop ment (Supplementary No.

4) Estimates, 1963.

Question put, and resolved, That this House resolves that an additional sum not exceeding $2,831,425 be expended out of the Development Fund in respect of the financial year 1963, and that to meet the purpose of the Heads and Sub-heads set out in the second column of the Statement laid on the Table as Command Paper No.
14 of 1964, there be appropriated the sums specified opposite such Heads and Sub-heads in the eighth and ninth columns thereof.

House resumed Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Com mittee has considered the motion referred to it, and has agreed to it.
I accordingly move, That this House resolves that an additional sum not exceeding $2,831,425 be expended out of the Development Fund in respect of the financial year 1963, and that to meet the purpose of the Heads and Sub-heads set out in the second column of the Statement laid on the Table as Command Paper No.

14 of 1964, there be appropriated the sums specified opposite such Heads and Sub-heads in the eighth and ninth columns thereof.

Dato' Dr Ismail: Sir, I beg to second the motion.


Question put, and agreed to.

Resolved, That this House resolves that an additional sum not exceeding $2,831,425 be expended out of the Development Fund in respect of the financial year 1963, and that to meet the purpose of the Heads and Sub-heads set out in the second column of the Statement laid on the Table as Command Paper No.

14 of 1964, there be appropriated the sums specified opposite such Heads and Sub-heads in the eighth and ninth columns thereof.
DEVELOPMENT (SUPPLEMENTARY) (No.

1) ESTIMATES, 1964 Enche' Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the motion stand ing in my name on the Order Paper the be referred whole House.

to a Committee of above by means the provision The Development (Supplementary) (No.

1) Estimates, 1964, which are laid before the House show an addi tional expenditure of $32,233,679 over already and approved for 1964.
Of this amount sum of $20,358,091 has been a advanced advance of the Contingency Re warrants from serve shown under Head 153 of the main Development Estimates, and it is now, necessary to recoup the amount by way of supplementary estimates.
the From House, the biggest item of additional expenditure in respect of Head 138, Water is of Supplies, $5,300,000 is required for the purpose the of granting additional to States of Selangor and Kedah, in view of the quicker progress of the two schemes, namely, the Klang Gates Water Supply Scheme, Phase II, and the Kedah Water Supply Scheme.
estimates before that it will be noted for which loans sum the a The second biggest is in respect of Head 122, Minister of Education, for which a supplement of $5,248,600 is the purpose of required mainly for making grants and extension for improvement of fully aided schools and other educational buildings.
Another big item is in respect of Head 121, Minister of Commerce and 693 6 JULY 1964 694 a for sum industrial for which Industry, of $3,000,000 is required for the purpose of increasing the amount available as loans from $4,000,000 to $7,000,000, and another sum of $677,828 for additional expen to extend electrical diture facilities to new villages and other rural areas.
in order estates There are three other large supple ments, namely, under Head 106, Minister of Interior, under Head 118, Royal Malaysia Police, and under Head 126, Minister of Rural Develop ment.
The sum of $3,575,034 required under Head 106, Minister of Interior the purpose of meeting an is for award of $1,693,400 made by the Collector of Land Revenue, Kuala Lumpur, for land acquisition, and the balance of $1,881,634 is for the pur pose of making grants to States for projects in Town Council and Town Board areas.

The sum of $3,261,310 required under Head 118, Royal Malaysia Police, is mainly needed for the pur pose of constructing Police buildings and quarters in Singapore.
is to meet The sum of $3,000,000 required under Head 126, Minister of Rural Development, urgent requests for minor works in kampongs and new villages.

The other items are relatively small.

There are also four token votes of $10 each for the pur pose of obtaining the approval of the House for changes in the total esti mated cost of certain projects and also to create one new Sub-head.
and Sabah to be completed The additional sums provided in the Supplementary Estimates in res are pect of Sarawak largely to cover revotes for projects carried over from 1963.

These projects were expected in 1963, but owing to unavoidable delays in the delivery of machines or diffi culty in the transportation of material they could not be completed in time.

This was not foreseen, and hence insufficient, or no provision, was made 1964 main Development in Estimates.
the that From the Estimates before the House, Honourable Members will the supplement note including from now sought, the appropriation the Development Fund 1964 in amounts to $753.8 million, which is about one-half of our annual recur rent expenditure.

This figure is now considered to be extremely high, in the light of our financial provision and the pressing need for additional expenditure on defence and security.
My Cabinet colleagues and I have agreed the projects some of entered in the Development Estimates, which are not very pressing, may have to be phased out or adjusted accord ing the resources available, and action is now in hand to review these projects.
that to Sir, I beg to move, "That pursuant to Standing Order 67c the following motion be referred to a Committee of the whole House: 'That this House resolves that an addi tional sum not exceeding $32,233,679 be expended out of the Development Fund in respect of the financial year 1964, and that to meet the purpose of the Heads and Sub heads set out in the second column of the Statement laid on the Table as Command Paper No.
15 of 1964, there be appro priated the sums specified opposite such Heads and Sub-heads in the eighth and ninth columns thereof."

Dato' Dr Ismail: Sir, I beg to second the motion.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose the motion to appropriate $32,233,679 out of the Development Fund for the year 1964.
I am glad that the Minister of Finance is concerned at such expenditure and he has expressed the intention of a review by his Cabinet colleagues that such commitments be phased out in view of other pressing needs of the country.

This goes to prove what I am going to say.

approval supplementary Mr Speaker, Sir, the object of giving to expenditure is to help the Government to meet expenses of items that had been overlooked when the original budget was drawn up.
Properly speak ing, no expenditure, or even commit ment, must be made before Parliament has had the opportunity of considering 695 6 JULY 1964 696 in almost control parliamentary the merits of a proposal by Govern all ment.

However, instances, it is found that the Govern ment spends in advance the money and then asks for permission to do so.

This puts the cart before the horse, is a mockery of parliamentary and control of the finance of the country.
This control of the expenditure of the country is the cornerstone of parlia mentary democracy.

I hope no such attempt will be made in the future to evade over expenditure of public funds.

Of much more seriousness is the dirty, mean and corrupt manner in which public funds were used to indirectly buy votes during the elections.

Out of a total of $32-plus million now asked for not less than $13.5 million has been used for this purpose.
I say this without fear of contradiction, as can be seen from what I have to say.

Under Head 106, a total of $3,575,034 were spent on items such as recreational facilities for Kuala Lumpur and as grants for to supply various amenities.

towns This item was never envisaged in the original Development Plan or the Second Development Plan.

No such expenditure w;as sought for in all the that have passed.

Now, but years certainly this year, it was introduced without the knowledge or approval of Parliament.
All this money has already been spent.

How it was spent, why it was spent and what was the urgency— we do not know.

Therefore, the only conclusion is that the money was spent for the elections with the sole purpose of winning votes.

Secondly, under the Minister of Head 122—which Finance says largest item—a sum of $5-plus million was this spent.

amount was In advanced the Contingencies Reserve Fund.

This is stated as Special Capital Grants Fully-Assisted Schools and for other Educational Buildings.
Capital Grants for schools have been clamoured for for a long time.

In every session of the House there has been demands but this item was never introduced in any of the earlier Development Estimates nor even the numerous Supplementary Estimates.

It was neither in any of the Development Plans, but now, as the second fact, from to is if by magic, this item for over $5 million is there.

How is this accounted for?


The Minister of Finance has made his usual remarks when he moved this motion, but he did not say a word for this, unusual departure.

Again, I ask: What was the urgency for the the expenditure?

What was need to advance so much money from the Contingencies Fund?

Was it because of Indonesian confrontation?

Was there an emergency in the edu cational not anticipated?

Has the population sud denly expanded to the point of explo sion such urgent action was needed?
Or was there any emergency in the fortunes of the Alliance in the elections?

that was demand that for Mr Speaker, Sir, this was the money the so-called crash pro used gramme which was announced by the Finance Minister, and for which the Ministry of Education was pushed aside and a Special Committee was set up, with the Finance Minister and the Minister of Education as co- Chairmen.

What an unusual proce dure!


Was the gravity of the situation such that the Minister of Finance had to assume the role of Director of Operations and had to go in chartered planes doling out money to schools in areas where the Alliance was weakest?

Could the Minister of Finance tell this House, especially and Indians generally, why was not a single representative of the M.I.C.

in the Special Committee to deal with the crash programme?

the M.I.C.
the M.I.C.

Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: Mr informa Speaker, Sir, on a point of tion.

May the Honourable Member to check up his facts before he speaks here.

I ask if Dr Tan Chee Khoon: I stand cor rected the Minister replies after wards.

Are not there Tamil schools in this country?

I ask this, because it was specifically announced that the com mittee would consist of five UMNO and five M.C.A.

members with the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Education as co-Chairmen.
Mr Speaker, Sir, could the Honourable is not Acting Prime Minister—who here now—say why a committee of 697 6 JULY 1964 698 political parties was set up to distribute public funds.

Is not this an attempt to use public money for political purposes and to gain political favours?

What has the Attorney-General to say to this?

It will be interesting to hear what the Auditor-General has to say.
But, of course, his report will come a long time afterwards and everybody would have forgotten about it—so the Government hopes.

Incidentally, why was the distribution of this largesse confined only to M.C.A.

and M.I.C.

Ministers and Assistant Ministers?

that Mr Speaker, Sir, may I ask what were the UMNO Ministers doing?
the numerous Can it be said Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan throughout the country, particularly those in the rural areas, were not in need of funds for this crash programme to repair and to equip them?

I do know that the Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan Rendah at in my own Kampong Sungei Tua backyard of Batu to too small is accommodate all the students that they have to borrow the premises of the Sekolah Ugama.

Neither then Minister of Education nor any other UMNO Ministers went there to look into their needs.

Why?
Why?

The school is today too small for its present students.

What of next year's intake?

And as far as I know, nothing has been done to solve the present Minister of Education will this and give urgent attention institute a post election crash pro gramme to solve the shortage of space in that school.

this problem.

I hope the to The Alliance Government has used the crash programme as part of their election weapon and we are now asked to approve their supplementary development estimates.
They certainly have crashed the financial barrier by such wanton waste and misuse of public funds.

They also have acted in such a way as to create an unholy spectacle of the M.C.A.

and M.I.C.

Ministers flitting from one place to another distributing funds to all and sundry.

If such funds were needed by these schools and other institutions, the cheques surely could have been posted to the recipients.

In any case, why were the civil servants not made to hand over such cheques personally?
What are they for if they are not asked to do such things.

I see that there are a the lot of civil servants behind Government benches and I do know that some of them were most frustrated over this.

AN HONOURABLE MEMBER: HOW do you know?

Dr Tan Chee Khoon: The officials of the Ministry of Education were kept completely in the dark.

The first time they knew of the distribution was when they were ordered to be present at the Minister's glorious presentation cere monies.
What is worse, some of them only learnt of such philanthropic acts of the M.C.A.

and M.I.C.

involving public funds when they read of them in the Press.

I am reliably informed that some of the cheques have not been banked yet.

Some of the money has been used for purposes other than what it was meant for.

Finally, to cap it all, there is no proper supervision of the expenditure and no accounts are being kept.

Mr Speaker, Sir, it must be clear as crystal that this money was used to gain political favour.
It is a form of indirect corruption on a national scale and the Ministers and Members on that side of the House are a disgrace for having stooped so low.

already voted Furthermore, under Head 126 an exact additional amount of $3 million was advanced from the Contingencies Fund.

This is for Minor Rural Deve lopment Schemes and is in addition to the $10,772,705 in December, 1963.
This makes a total of $13.8 million, almost an 100 per cent increase over the 1963 estimates figure and 700 per cent increase over the 1962 figure, which was $1.9 million.

This is a very substantial increase for projects which are considered minor and the staggering sum of over $13 million.

Such an expenditure seems not to have been anticipated in the Second Development Plan although an appreciable amount has already been spent.

I need not attempt to show, Mr Speaker, Sir, where all this leads to.
Only those who are blind would see not.

But from all this it is clear the Alliance that beyond involves doubt 699 6 JULY 1964 700 Government has abused its powers and has misappropriated public funds on a vast scale.

As such, the members of the Alliance, especially the Minister of Finance should not be sitting in this House and occupy the Ministry of Finance.

He should be in one of His Majesty's prisons for criminal mis appropriation (Laughter).

Mr Speaker: Please proceed.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Sir, it should be remembered that Parliament had been prorogued and there was only a caretaker Government.

The caretaker Government suddenly took great care to bolster the fortunes of the Alliance Party during the elections by going on a spending spree and today we are asked to approve all their misdeeds.

Such is the type and calibre of the to that we have the people run that Government.
the is a pity It country has been entrusted to such unscrupulous people.

As such, it is the duty of to withhold approval of the motion, as it is contrary to the provisions of the Constitution and has been used political purposes.

The Constitution states that advances from the Contingencies Fund can be made for urgent and unfore seen needs.
According to Article 103 (1), it reads as follows: this House for "Parliament may by law provide for the creation of a Contingencies Fund and for authorising the Minister charged with respon sibility for finance, if satisfied that there has arisen an urgent and unforeseen need for expenditure for which no other provision exists, to make advances from the Contingen cies Fund to meet that need."
From that, Mr Speaker, Sir, it should be evident that the Minister of Finance in making this advance has connived with his party and has misused his powers.

As such, I call upon this this motion, and I House to reject oppose it in no uncertain terms.
Enche' Mohamed Daud bin Abdul Samad (Besut): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Yang Berhormat Menteri Kewangan Ranchangan telah mengemukakan Pembangunan Tambahan bagi tahun 1964 di-Pertua, Kerajaan Perikatan yang memerentah ini mengaku Persekutuan Malaysia dan mengatakan hendak menjalankan ini.

Tuan Yang keadilan.
Tuan Yang keadilan.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kalau benar2-lah hendak menjalankan ke adilan, maka di-dalam soal membuat ranchangan kemajuan sama ada dalam bandar, atau pun luar bandar, maka hendak-lah di-tentukan satu dasar, bagaimana terchatit di-dalam Perlem- bagaan Persekutuan-nya itu berkenaan dengan capitation grant yang mesti di-fikirkan dan di-timbangkan berapa di-suatu2 pendudok2 banyak-nya tempat, atau pun di-dalam sa-sabuah negeri itu.
Sebab saya nampak sampai hari ini soal pembahagian ranchangan tidak berjalan benar2 kemajuan ini sa-benar2-nya mengikut dasar yang adil.

Jadi.

saya menuntut pada petang ini dan dalam Rumah yang mulia ini supaya di-tentukan satu dasar rancha ngan kemajuan ini, yang pertama-nya ia-lah dasar pembahagian kewangan; yang kedua-nya ia-lah dasar pembaha gian pegawai2 dan yang ketiga-nya ia-lah menentukan (dasar) pembaha gian alat2an.
Jadi, kalau ini-lah telah di-amalkan, di-jalankan di-seluroh maka Malaysia ini, tegas-nya ra'ayat dari pada pantai timur, sebab saya datang daripada Besut, Trengganu, daripada sa-buah Negeri di-pantai timur yang lagi backward State—Negeri maseh yang kebelakangan.
dan dapat-lah telah ra'ayat dapat-lah ini, maka itu Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam untok mendapatkan perimbangan ke di- majuan tambahkan persen pula supaya Negeri2 di-seluroh Persekutuan Malaysia ini dapat semua sa-kali, atau pun pada keselurohan-nya merasa nekmat ran telah di- changan kemajuan yang banggakan dan di-jalankan.

Kalau tidak, saya yakin dan perchaya, Tuan bagaimana Yang di-Pertua, hanya chakap2 di-Kuala Lumpur ini, apa tahu mereka mengatakan yang saya "P.J.K."

P.J.K.
P.J.K.

kapada kami, peng- ertian di-pantai timur, atau pun Besut, Trengganu, ia-lah "Pingat Jasa Ke- baktian", tetapi apa yang kami tahu "P.J.K."

yang di-chakapkan di-Kuala ini Lumpur ranchangan ke itu banyak-nya berjalan di- majuan Pahang, Perak, Johor dan Kedah.

Itu-lah "P.J.K."

dalam erti kemajuan ini.

Jadi, jangan-lah hendak-nya ber- laku demikian lagi (Ketawa).
ia-lah 701 6 JULY 1964 702 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, jadi itu-lah ini-lah yang menjadi masaalah dan hasrat seluroh ra'ayat, tegas-nya dari Besut, atau pun dari Trengganu yang mahu melihat bahawa ranchangan kemajuan ini akan dapat berjalan dengan baik-nya.
Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya suka juga hendak menyentoh dalam soal asas kemajuan ini, sebab saya tahu di-mana telah maju, maka asas negeri yang kemajuan yang sa-benar2-nya ia-lah memikirkan masaalah pelajaran tinggi dengan sa-banyak2-nya dan masaalah menambahkan pendapatan, atau pun ekonomi bagi orang2 Melayu, tegas-nya saya mengatakan bagitu, juga saya tegaskan bagi membanyakkan orang2 Melayu mendapat pelajaran tinggi, mithal-nya yang telah tamat di-sekolah2 tinggi, atau pun di-university.
Tetapi, bila kita pandang kapada asas kema juan yang sa-benar-nya, maka dua perkara ini belum-lah benar2, dengan ramai2 dapat di-rasai' oleh sa-chara orang2 Melayu dalam negeri ini, dan ini-lah yang saya harapkan bagi pehak Kerajaan dan menimbangkan serta berikhtiar me- nambah dan menjalankan.
supaya memikirkan saya telah di-Pertua, Tuan Yang tentang masaalah pelajaran, sukachita hendak menyatakan bahawa bila kita memerhatikan dalam tahun 1964 ini sahaja anak2 Melayu yang hendak masok ka-universiti, apa yang saya terbacha dalam Utusan Melayu baharu2 ini 940 orang penuntut2 yang akan masok universiti, tetapi orang2 Melayu hanya-lah ada 200 orang sahaja.

Jadi, jauh benar-lah lagi perimbangan-nya, sedangkan soal pegawai tinggi mithal- nya terchatet dalam Perlem- bagaan bahawa M.C.S.
Officers, atau pun pegawai2 tinggi itu dua pertiga di-beri kapada orang2 Melayu dan satu pertiga di-beri kapada orang2 yang bukan Melayu, tetapi kalau usaha yang benar2 tidak di-jalankan daripada sekolah2 rendah.

menengah universiti-nya, dan maka bila sampai kapada peringkat tinggi hendak membenarkan kehendak Perlembagaan itu, atau pun yang di-namakan keistimewaan bagi orang2 Melayu, maka kosong sahaja.
Jadi, ya harap kapada Menteri Pelajaran sampai kapada supaya memberikan hadiah pelajaran ini daripada darjah2 rendah kapada darjah2 menengah dan sampai-lah sa-banyak2-nya, ka-universiti dengan sebab apa yang saya tahu sekarang ini hadiah pelajaran itu di-beri kapada orang2 yang hendak melanjutkan pe lajaran ka-universiti, tetapi anak tangga yang hendak sampai kapada universiti itu tidak di-fikirkan dan di-timbangkan dengan halus-nya.
pun telah langsong pelajaran Sa-lain daripada itu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, apa yang menyedehkan saya yang saya dapat tahu bahawa ada 15 orang penuntut2 Melayu yang telah berpeluang pergi ka-universiti Malaya dan penuntut2 itu telah pun hadhir tetapi dengan sa-chara ka-universiti, tidak di-paksakan supaya mempelajari bahasa China.

Kemudian penuntut2 itu kata: "Kami tidak mahu mempelajari bahasa China, kami hendakkan bahasa China itu di-gantikan dengan pelajaran Islamic atau ugama Islam, Studies".
Saya tahu-lah, Tuan tidak Yang di-Pertua, sama ada perkara ini telah di-sedari, atau pun tidak oleh Menteri Pelajaran.

Jadi, saya rasa, ini amat-lah menyedehkan sa-kali, di- dalam Perlembagaan Persekutuan telah ia-lah terchatet yang ugama ugama rasmi dan masa ini ada-lah masa Bulan Bahasa Kebangsaan dan tiga tahun lagi konon-nya pada tahun 1967 maka akan di-jalankan bahasa ini.
Jadi, kebangsaan dalam negeri itu hendak bila 15 orang penuntut melanjutkan ka-uni versiti, hendak belajar Islamic Studies, tetapi di-suroh-nya bahasa China.

Ini saya mendapat tahu dari pada 15 orang penuntut2 itu yang tidak mahu belajar bahasa China dan langsong-lah ka-lima2 belas orang itu penuntut2 yang Melayu itu tidak dapat melanjutkan pelajaran-nya .

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pelajaran-nya daripada belajar terdiri Islam Enche' Mohamed Yusof bin Mah- mud: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Standing (3}—" .

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- principles of Order 67 Government policy and administration supplementary as appropriations in the Bill" included sahaja, tidak-lah termasok berkenaan dengan policy, memberi scholarship dan sa-bagai-nya.

indicated by the 703 6 JULY 1964 704 Mr Speaker: Boleh dia masokkan, dengan ada bersangkut-paut sebab pelajaran—general policy.

sunggoh pun Enche' Mohd.


Daud bin Abdul Samad: Terima kaseh, Tuan Yang di- Pertua, sebab saya ada di-khas dalam ini menunjokkan Ministry of Educa tion dan di-bawah-nya ia-lah education.

Jadi, apa yang saya chakap ini ia-lah berhubong dengan perkara education atau pun perkara pelajaran, saya rasa saya tidak terbabas.

Tuan Yang di- saya baharu Pertua, dalam Dewan yang mulia ini, saya terlanjor.
Tuan rasa tidak-lah saya jadi saya harap-lah Yang di-Pertua, Menteri Pelajaran menyiasat apa yang saya telah sampaikan dalam Dewan yang mulia ini dengan sa-boleh2-nya 15 orang penuntut yang sudah tidak dapat dan dapat melanjutkan di-Universiti pelajaran Malaya itu di-ikhtiar dan di-usahakan dengan sa-berapa segera-nya supaya dapat-lah pemuda2 Melayu itu mene- ruskan dan .

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peluang tidak Enche' Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman (Seberang Tengah): Tuan Yang di- Pertua, on a point of order 67C.
Saya berpendapat ini Development Esti mates, bukan development brain meter sa-bagaimana Ahli Yang Berhormat itu dengan keadaan berkenaan dengan pembangunan, bukan pem- tetapi pembangunan bangunan otak, rumah2 atau bangunan2 sekolah dan lain2.

berkenaan Ini berchakap pelajaran.

sadikit atas perbelanjaan, Mr Speaker: Saya suka hendak me- nyatakan ia-itu perbahathan tetapi ini kita boleh di-sentoh sadikit dalam perkara pelajaran sebab ada termasok dalam ini.

Hanya sadikit sahaja boleh chakap, jangan banyak.


Enche' Mohd.

Daud bin Abdul Samad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, nampak- nya takut benar, kalau berchakap panjang.

Some Honourable Members: Berani.

Mr Speaker: Proceed.

Enche' Mohd.

Daud bin Abdul Samad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam tidak dapat ini kalau kita Dewan apa berchakap dan menyampaikan yang berlaku, maka sia2-lah ra'ayat memileh saya menjadi Wakil Ra'ayat dan dudok dalam Dewan ini.
Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sukachita saya hendak masok pula dalam soal Kementerian Kerja Raya.

Di-Besut ada satu jam- ia-itu di-buat oleh batan di-Penarek orang2 yang sama dengan Dato' V. T. Sambanthan, dan jambatan itu konon- nya telah runtoh oleh benchana alam ia-itu di-tempoh .

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Mr Speaker: Jangan sebut nama, sebut Menteri.

dan saya runtoh itu pun tahu yang tahun 1961, dan Enche' Mohd.
Daud bin Abdul Samad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, jam batan itu di-bena sa-lepas Yang Amat Berhormat Tun Abdul Razak sa-bagai Menteri Pembangunan Luar Bandar ka-Trengganu pergi ka-Besut pada tidak dapat sempat di-pakai 3 bulan, maka jam batan konon-nya di-tempoh oleh satu jenis pokok.
Dan apa yang telah di-bentangkan oleh Yang Amat Ber hormat Menteri Besar Trengganu sa-belum daripada Dewan Undangan Negeri Trengganu di-bubarkan meng- atakan bahawa laporan berkenaan dengan keruntohan jambatan itu telah pun di-hantar kapada Kerajaan Pusat, kerana walng itu di-belanjakan oleh Kerajaan Pusat.

Jadi, ra'ayat di sana memang bertanya2 sa-sudah runtoh- nya jambatan itu, bila-kah pula akan di-binakan.
Jadi saya harap-lah dari pada Menteri yang berkenaan itu menyatakan dan menegaskan dalam Dewan ini.

ini Tuan Yang di-Pertua, satu perkara lagi saya hendak sampaikan dalam Dewan ia-lah berkenaan dengan gangguan daripada pehak orang2 Parti Perikatan kapada pegawai2 kerajaan yang tertentu.
Mithal-nya, di-Besut, baharu sahaja sa-belum saya datang ka-Kuala Lumpur atau pun ka-dalam meshuarat - ini, sa-orang doktor telah di-buat petition oleh orang kuat Parti saya Perikatan, tahu dan dapat itu akan membuat baihawa doktor notis 24 jam untok berhenti.
Jadi kalau bagini-lah banyak-nya gangguan, sedang Kerajaan berkali2 bila Wakil Ra'ayat atau pun sa-siapa juga minta doktor, mereka (atau) menambah mengatakan bahawa kita kekurangar 705 6 JULY 1964 706 dua atau jajahan ia-itu District Besut doktor, tetapi kalau di-buat gangguan itu, bukan dapat menambah bahkan doktor2 yang ada itu akan berhenti.

Jadi ini-lah masaalah-nya.

Saya harap kapada Menteri Kesihatan tolong menyiasat dan menjaga gangguan itu supaya tidak akan berlaku lagi pada masa hadapan.
Sedangkan apa yang saya tahu bahawa doktor yang ada di-Besut itu memang sa-orang doktor yang baik dan kerja-nya pun banyak pun menjaga district dan District Pasir Puteh—jarang2 sa-kali.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya suka juga hendak berchakap berkenaan dengan hal Kementerian Pertanian dan Sharikat Bekerjasama.

Apa yang saya tahu bahawa Menteri Pertanian banyak dan Sharikat Bekerjasama menyiarkan radio bagi memajukan pertanian dan shari kat2 bekerjasama dalam negeri ini.
Saya terima kaseh banyak, tetapi saya harap biar-lah benar2 dan bersunggoh2, sebab apa yang saya tahu sharikat2 bekerjasama di-Besut itu ada yang 4 tahun bermeshuarat.

Kalau bagini-lah keadaan-nya, maka akan menyusahkan-lah bagi menyelesaikan pada masa akan datang.

Jadi, saya harap-lah kapada Menteri Pertanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama mengambil tahu dan mengambil berat dan di- betulkan masaalah dalam soal ini.
siaran-nya dalam tidak Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya chuba aleh pula kapada Kementerian Peng- angkutan.

Sekarang ini ada sa-tengah pelesen yang telah mendapat kebena- ran bagi menjalankan teksi atau pun kereta sewa itu dalam keadaan yang kelam-kabut, ada sebab konon-nya lesen daripada orang2 Parti banyak (Perikatan), sebab orang Parti Peri- katan sahaja yang akan dapat lesen itu dan lesen ini, yang sudah dapat itu pun mesti di-tarek balek.

Kalau bagini-lah berlaku .

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The Minister of Commerce and Industry (Dr Lim Swee Ann): Sir, on a point of order.

Under Standing Order 67C.

(3): "On the motion to refer mentioned in paragraph (1) a debate may arise on the general policy of to the Government with respect such of the purposes for which the Development Fund is applicable .

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this case 1 see here, under In the that money Ministry of Transport required is for building an aerodrome, and it has nothing to do with taxi (Applause).
AN HONOURABLE MEMBER: Dia belum bacha lagi.

di-nyatakan Mr Speaker: Ya.

Chakap Yang Ber- hormat itu ada berkait dengan apa di-sini.

Dalam yang ini berkenaan dengan Kementerian hanya terbang aerodrome—kapal sahaja.

Jadi tidak ada berkait dengan masaalah itu.

ranchangan Enche' Mohd.


Daud bin Abdul Samad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, jadi saya berseru dan berharap-lah kapada semua Kementerian yang ada supaya semua ra'ayat dalam negeri ini dapat pem- merasai' nikmat bangunan ini, sama ada parti apa pun, sebab apa yang saya tahu bahawa yang bernama parti apa sa-kali pun mereka ada-lah membayar chukai dan hasil dalam negeri ini, bukan sahaja orang Parti Perikatan yang membayar chukai dan hasil.
Jadi, jangan-lah berlaku ugutan yang saperti itu yang dalam akan menyusahkan itu negeri tekanan daripada pehak pegawai kera- jaan yang akan menyebabkan ra'ayat akan benchi kapada pegawai2 kerajaan itu, maka akan susah-lah pada masa akan datang, sa-bagaimana telah pun berlaku waktu Sir Gerald Templer datang ka-Tanah Melayu.

ra'ayat sa-tengah2-nya ini, dan Dr Lim Swee Aun: On a point of order again, Sir.

May the Honourable Member on what item he is speaking on?
I ask Mr Speaker: Yang akhir itu saya fikir tidak ada kena-mengena dengan item yang ada di-hadapan Majlis ini.

Jangan-lah di-champor-adokkan ber kenaan dengan itu.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, jangan-lah tekanan kapada orang2 hendak-nya lain untok mendapatkan yang parti pembahagian nikmat ranchangan ke- majuan {Di- supaya sampok).

ini Mr Speaker: Sudah habis atau ada lagi yang hendak di-chakapkan?

707 6 JULY 1964 708 Enche' Mohd.

Daud bin Abdul lagi, Tuan Yang di- Samad: Ada Pertua.
Mr Speaker: Kalau ada lagi jemput- laih berchakap tetapi hendak-lah per kapada chakapan perkara2 yang di-bahathkan sahaja.

di-tujukan itu ranchangan yang Enche' Mohd.

Daud bin Abdul Samad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, untok mengakhiri perchakapan saya ini ia-lah berkenaan dengan Kementerian Pene- rangan dan Siaran Radio.
Sebab, apa yang saya dengar dalam soal siaran ini, memang Radio dan penerangan kalau tidak di- jalankan oleh Kerajaan ya'ani yang tidak sahaja di-masokkan dan banyak2 pula di- ranchangan2 yang masokkan di-buat oleh parti Kerajaan.

Jadi dalam soal ini juga harap mendapat keadilan dan dapat penerangan yang sama.

Sekian-lah, Tuan Yang di- Pertua.


saperti maka sadikit2 yang sejak biasa Enche' Ali bin Haji Ahmad (Pontian Selatan): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa- bagaimana daripada dahulu, ia-itu Ahli2 Yang Berhormat daripada parti2 Pembangkang di-dalam Dewan Ra'ayat ini menyanyikan lagu salah, lama.

Buat segera semua lambat salah, pendek-nya serba salah.

Ini-lah lagu lama, Tuan Yang di-Pertua.


ta' buat salah, salah, salah, ranchangan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bila Kera jaan Perikatan membuat ranchangan2 dan menjalankan-nya dengan segera maka di-katakan ranchangan itu ia-lah untok memenangi pilehan raya, di- itu mem- katakan pula belakangkan Parlimen.

Tetapi kalau pehak Kerajaan lambat menjalankan ranchangan itu maka anggota2 Pem bangkang, dan saya perchaya Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Batu-lah yang dahulu, mengatakan kita kurang che- kerja.
kap, kita Tetapi kerja di-katakan pula kita membelakangkan Parlimen, di-katakan kita membuat kerja2 untok memenangi pilehan raya.

akan memerentah Parti Perikatan dalam masa 5 tahun, ada-kah juga ranchangan2 yang di-jalankan oleh itu nanti hendak di-tudoh Kerajaan oleh parti2 Pembangkang, terutama lambat membuat jalankan kita bila sa-kali Ahli, Yang Berhormat dari itu, dengan mengatakan kita Batu hendak memenangi pilehan raya?
Ini- lah dia lagu lama yang saya katakan: buat salah, ta' buat salah, segera salah, lambat salah, semua-nya salah.

Tidak tidak pernah pernah benar pehak Kerajaan pada mereka itu.

Sudah jemu benar saya dengar lagu ini.

ta' salah dan ini kita Patut kita ranchangan2 ingat bahawa dalam terpaksa masa pembangunan, kita ranchangan2 menjalankan dengan sa-berapa segera terutama sa-kali yang mendatangkan faedah kapada ra'ayat.
Mungkin pada masa membuat budget dahulu tidak melihat-nya tetapi dengan memikirkan bahawa kita perlu bertindak segera untok kebaikan ra'ayat maka pehak telah menjalankan dengan Kerajaan sa-berapa chepat.

Jadi ini satu dari pada chontoh bahawa kita mahukan hasil, mahukan tindakan dan kita bukan-lah mahu berbichara panjang2 dalam Parlimen sa-bagaimana yang di-buat oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Batu tadi.
itu Kemudian, Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Batu tadi mengatakan sa-telah Dewan Ra'ayat di-bubarkan Kerajaan merupakan Caretaker.

Kerajaan Tetapi patut kita ingat bahawa Kera jaan Perikatan yang berupa Kerajaan Caretaker ia-lah di-pileh oleh ra'ayat dan bukan yang di-tumbang- kan oleh ra'ayat dan bukan yang di-tumbangkan oleh parti2 Pembang Ini kang dalam Parlimen.

harus kita bedzakan.


Harus kita bedzakan di-antara Kerajaan Care taker di-tumbangkan telah di-dalam Parlimen dengan Kerajaan Caretaker yang meminta mandat dan kita sudah dapat mandat lebeh banyak dan kuat daripada ra'ayat dari masa yang lalu.

Ini-lah yang harus di-sedari oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Batu sa-belum dia berchakap berlarutan2.

(Tepok).
(Tepok).

telah yang Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Dungun kalau saya tidak salah; saya minta ma'af, Ahli Yang Berhormat dari pelajar2 Besut mengatakan bahawa di-University terpaksa belajar bahasa China.

Saya dukachita ia-itu dengan ini perchakapan yang sa-demikian 709 6 JULY 1964 710 itu yang dalam tertentu, Jadi ini, tidak perbahathan takut saya nyata-lah bahawa Ahli Yang Berhor mat itu tidak tahu selok belok tentang pelajaran di-University.

Di-University tidak ada pelajaran paksaan.


Kalau kita hendak mengambil satu2 mata pelajaran, kita harus-lah memenohi tertentu.

Kalau anak2 sharat2 yang Melayu lulus bahasa China tidak kalau hendak mengambil mata pela terpaksa-lah memenohi jaran sharat2 bukan-lah yang di-paksa.
kalau sedemikian berlarutan dengan di-tegor segera, akan merendahkan mutu Parlimen kita ya'ani apabila Ahli2 Parlirnen Yang Berhormat berbichara tentang sa-suatu yang dia tidak mengetahui dengan sa-benar-nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua (Tepok).

Sa- panjang pengetahuan saya, tidak ada paksaan.

Di-mana tempat, yang hak saya harus mempertahankan.

Tidak sa-barang bahasa di- ada paksaan lagi di-University of University apa Malaya.

Ini saya tahu benar2, tidak ada paksaan.


Dan ini satu masaalah dalam kita hendak mengembangkan pengajaran dan penggunaan bahasa kebangsaan kita di-dalam University, pelajar2-nya sama mahu pun di-kalangan guru2 di- University ku.

Tetapi tentang paksaan itu memang-lah ada.

Dan keterangan yang telah di-kemukakan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Besut itu ada-lah keterangan yang di-dasar- semata2.

kan Sekian-lah, Tuan Yang di-Pertua.


ada di-kalangan kejahilan kapada tidak Enche' Ahmad bin Arshad (Muar Utara): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya bangun ada-lah menyokong perunto- kan wang tambahan yang baharu sebentar di-kemukakan oleh Yang Berhormat Menteri Kewangan tadi.
Dan dengan ini ada-lah menunjokkan kapada ra'ayat dalam negeri ini dan juga kapada dunia bahawa Kerajaan Perikatan yang menjalankan peme- rentahan-nya ini di-dalam walau pun kita menghadapi konfran- tasi yang di-datangkan oleh Indonesia maka bagi pehak Kerajaan Perikatan berjalan pem- terus menjalankan bangunan2-nya mengikut jadual yang ini di-kehendaki oleh ada-lah menunjokkan satu rasa tidak ra'ayat.
Dan negeri daripada puas hati kapada Ahli2 Yang Berhor parti Pembangkang mat tidak khas-nya Socialist Front yang suka bahawa itu di- jalankan dengan keadaan masa ini.

ranchangan2 baharu kapada Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya chuma hendak membangkitkan sadikit sahaja dalam Kepala yang telah di-sebutkan oleh Yang Berhormat Menteri Ke tadi khas-nya dalam hal wangan pelajaran ia-itu di-Kepala 122, Kemen- terian Pembangunan Luar Bandar Kepala 126, Bekalan Ayer di-Kepala 138 dan Talikom Kepala 144.
Ber hubong dengan pelajaran ini, saya ada-lah bersimpati dengan ra'ayat pada bangunan2 menghendakkan ia-itu menggantikan yang bangunan2 yang sudah uzor yang supaya ra'ayat sentiasa meminta bangunan2 yang sa-umpama itu di- segera.

Dan gantikan dengan saya bertimbang rasa juga dengan Kera jaan bahawa hendak membuat segera sa-suatu itu bergantong-lah kapada saya memberikan kewangan.
Dan perhatian berhubong dengan sekolah2 ia-itu di-kampong2 Kerajaan rendah tidak berupaya hendak mengadakan ia-itu dengan sa-kali gus.

bangunan saya Oleh kerana menurut hemat bagi mengatasi masaalah ini supaya mendirikan sekolah2 pusat pada tem pat atau mukim2 yang di-fikirkan munasabah.

Kerana kita dapati dalam itu sa-buah kampong yang keohil di-dirikan tiga, empat buat sekolah rendah yang berhampiran dan murid2- nya ada-lah sadikit.
juga saya nampak melemahkan pelajaran anak2 kita kerana keadaan sekolah yang tidak dapat di-lengkapi kechil alatan2 dengan segala pelajaran sa-bagaimana sekolah2 yang moden atau sekolah2 yang di-dalam bandar.

sempurna, Ini itu tiga kampong Umpama-nya dalam kawasan saya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ia-itu di-Serum Enam, Serum Lapan dan Serum Lima itu hanya 3/4 antara batu, jadi ada tiga sekolah rendah.
Jadi manakala sekolah pusat yang saya kehendakkan di-dirikan sa-buah sekolah, daripada tiga buah sekolah ini tadi murid2-nya dapat berhimpun di-sa-buah sekolah yang saya sebutkan 711 6 JULY 1964 712 sekolah pusat, Jadi, saya fikir ke- ini bukan sahaja di-kawasan jadian saya bahkan di-seluroh tanah ayer.

dalam tahun, sa-banyak Yang kedua, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyentoh bahagian pembangunan luar bandar yang ber- kehendakkan wang 3 million ringgit.
Ini juga satu perkara yang selalu di-sebutkan oleh ra'ayat tanah ia-itu dari lapangan kemajuan tiga yang sudah di-buka dari sejak tahun dan empat tahun dahulu di-atas perkara yang patut Kerajaan laksana- kan pada masa sekarang peruntokan wang yang ada ini atau pun supaya tentang dapat perhatian Kerajaan bangunan masjid.

Walau pun kawa- san ini sudah di-buka tiga tahun atau empat tetapi masjid belum juga di-dirikan.
Bangunan2 yang lain telah saperti balai raya Kerajaan dirikan, tetapi masjid untok peng- huni2 bagi kawasan orang2 Islam itu mereka terpaksa-lah membuat bangu nan2 masjid dengan chara bergotong- sa-tahun tahu royong.
Kita ka-satahun Kerajaan menambah pe- ringkat pertama, kedua dan ketiga maka orang2 itu bertambah2 terpaksa mereka sembahyang' di-halaman bangunan2 itu, kapada umpama-nya lembaga di-Bukit Serampang dan Kemendor juga hatta sa-hingga sekarang belum dapat Ke- menterian ini mendirikan masjid bagi orang2 di-situ.

Jadi, dengan ini saya fikir sudah sampai masa-nya supaya di-dirikan masjid itu.
saya kemajuan Islam di-tempat sentoh tanah ramai dari di-kampong waktu Yang ketiga, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berhubong dengan perbekalan ayer.
ini sangat Perbekalan ayer memang di-kampong2 puas hati-lah ra'ayat dengan ranchangan yang di-jalankan oleh Kerajaan di-bekalkan ayer yang kemarau baik Kerajaan menghantar ayer di-berikan dengan perchuma, tetapi saya nampak kerana Kerajaan anchaman saya ia-itu perhatian Kerajaan minta pusat2 bekalan ayer kita yang ber- selerak di-dalam tanah ayer kita ini supaya di-adakan kawalan supaya dapat di-selamatkan bekalan ayer kita yang di-buat berjuta2 ringgit daripada di-musnahkan oleh agent2 penyeludup negeri kita satu perkara yang ini di-datangkan pada masa oleh Kerajaan yang Saya ini.
Indonesia selamat-nya sekarang memikirkan bekalan2 bukan itu tempat ayer Kerajaan, sahaja menguntongkan ra'ayat, tetapi akan menguntongkan ra'ayat di-kampong2 dan sama ada juga ra'ayat di-dalam bandar.

Jika pusat bekalan ayer itu di-pechahkan tidak dalam tidak bandar-lah susah mendapat ayer.

Bagi ada pehak sungai dan parit.

Ini perkara yang saya minta Kementerian ini meng- ambil perhatian pada masa ini.
kampong orang2 orang2 dapat dia ia-itu bandar talipon daripada Yang keempat memang di-luar berhubong dengan talipon.

Pada masa sekarang membekalkan Kerajaan pendudok2 dengan pondok2 talipon.

Baharu2 ini berubah ranchangan di-pondok talipon satu besi itu di-buat tidak di-ubah pondok itu dengan pelastik.
Ada satu perkara yang saya patut Kerajaan mengambil fikir ia-itu tabong memasokkan perhatian duit di-pondok talipon yang di-buat daripada pelastik itu tidak sempurna ia-itu boleh di-kaitkan oleh budak2 yang nakal dan orang2 yang tidak bertanggong-jawab mengait2kan wang itu melenting dan wang itu boleh keluar.
Jadi, perkara ini saya harap dapat di-tengok dan di-kaji sa-mula supaya dapat-lah tempat tabong wang sempurna, dan itu di-buat dengan saya dapat tahu bagaimana kita dapat telah me- tahu ngatakan telah mengait duit itu chuma ada 90 sen sahaja dalam tabong itu.
Fasal duit, saya fikir kapada budak2 nakal itu memang-lah bila dia gunchang tabong itu ada berbunyi duit, dia chari ikhtiar hendak mengait dan ber- macham2 jalan hendak mengambil dengan wang di-buat sempurna duit kita dan selamat, kampong tidak busok dan tidak tersentoh dengan pekerjaan yang sa-umpama satu orang kanak2 juga dalam akhbar itu.

Kalau itu pun itu.
Kalau itu pun itu.

Akhir-nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya ada-lah mengikuti atas bahathan yang telah di-buat oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Besut tadi dia kata ranchangan pembangunan luar bandar 713 6 JULY 1964 714 oleh di-kehendaki ra'ayat yang di-jalankan sekarang tidak ber- jalan dengan betul.

Ini saya napikan bahawa ranchangan yang di-jalankan oleh Kerajaan Perikatan pada masa ini ada-lah benar2 mengkehendaki apa yang ra'ayat.
itu parti PAS, Tidak kira parti UMNO atau parti apa pun kerana mereka ra'ayat Malaysia.

Dengan sebab benar-nya ranchangan Kerajaan Perikatan itu maka Kera jaan Trengganu yang di-pimpin oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat itu dahulu langsong telah terguling.

Fasal Kera jaan PAS itu pembohong kapada ra'ayat, itu fasal-nya dia jatoh.

Ini sekarang Kerajaan negeri Kelantan umor-nya hendak naza' dan saya dengar bekas Menteri Besar Kelantan itu tidak mahu masok PAS lagi.
Jadi, tidak dia mengatakan ranchangan Kerajaan Peri bahawa katan itu tidak berjalan dengan betul.

benar-lah Satu perkara lagi, Tuan Yang di- Pertua, alang-kah dukachita-nya saya dan Ahli2 Yang Berhormat dalam Dewan ini bila mendengar satu ayat yang di-kemukakan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Batu ia-itu menolak chadangan yang ada di-hadapan kita ini supaya jangan di-jalankan.
Saya berpendapat dengan ini kalau tidak dapat di-jalankan maka ra'ayat dalam negeri ini akan menjadi batu sama dengan kawasan Ahli Yang Berhormat itu.

Dan ini-lah juga kalau ranchangan kita pembangunan luar bandar tidak dapat di-jalankan ini yang di-kehendaki oleh maka juga yang di- Socialist Front dan Indonesia Socialist kehendaki oleh Front agent.

Sakian-lah.

sa-bagai Terima kaseh.


ranchangan Enche' Stephen Yong Kuet Tze (Sarawak): Mr Speaker, Sir, I do not the I should go as far as think Honourable Member in for Batu suggesting that there has been fraud or misappropriation, and neither do I think that we should see the Honour in able Finance Minister clapped chains.
But one's mind does boggle at the large sum under Head 122— Education, which shows a sum of this $5.3 being the supplementary to Minister concerned is duty-bound for under think asked vote.

I the purpose of realising explain to this House as to why such a sum had to be spent.

Was it for the purpose of a crash programme which the Minister of Finance men tioned to this House earlier, or was it for the measure of giving three more years of free secondary education the children of this country?
That I think needs to be said, because, if that is so, we are bound to ask the question whether in spending this money the Government in fact had thought of other States within Malaysia.

to In this connection, Sir, I would the House to a Press like to refer report published today in the Straits Times in which the Minister of Edu cation is reported to have said: "Malaysia was ahead of many Asian in the its education of Education, Enche' Abdul countries Minister Rahman bin Talib, said here yesterday."
The report goes on: system, "The Minister recalled that when he was in Tokyo recently for a conference of Educa tion Ministers, the question of free primary education in Asian countries was discussed and many nations said they hoped to achieve it by 1969.

Malaysia had not only achieved this earlier, but had also introduced three more years of education in the secondary school, he added."
Sir, that statement is not absolutely accurate, because we do know as a fact that Sarawak has no three years free secondary education—in fact, we have not even got free primary edu cation.

Therefore, if Sarawak is part of Malaysia, that statement, of course, is misleading.

Sir, we have not asked for three years free secondary educa tion, neither have we even asked for free primary education.
All we have been asking for, for a start, is this: try and abolish school fees for pri mary school children, the cost of which works out to be about $2.5 million.

So, if one were to see this supplementary vote asking for $5.3 then one could also say, million, "Why similar procedure be adopted and ask for a supplementary vote of $2.5 million to enable, what we say is absolutely be necessary, the abolishment of primary school fees".
I am sure it does not entail much administrative work, and it does not mean that you have to set up new can't 715 6 JULY 1964 716 Departments to cope with it.

All it the involves here would be parents that they need not have to pay the fees for their children in the primary schools.
tell to Sir, the children to say whether in handing out the Honourable Member Sir, we, of course, do not grudge at the Peninsular in States enjoying this privilege, but we do feel that if we are to be taken as one and our name has been used, and brandied about abroad, at least before you do so, you must give us that privilege; otherwise for goodness sake, do not use the name "Malaysia".

for Batu mentioned that it was very much of a political stunt by the Alliance Government this money during elections.
Well, I am not competent that was so, but the charge was there.

In order to negative the charge, I feel that the Central Government must now try its best to introduce a sys education— free primary tem—not start, you whereby abolish in primary schools the fees in Sarawak otherwise if this were to be delayed, or if it is postponed till the General Election in Sarawak and the charge then would have been substantiated.
On the that note, Sir, I do appeal Central Government is a matter which should not be postponed, and I think the Minister of Education must satisfy this House that this sum of $5.3 million has been spent not for the purpose of propaganda but for the welfare of this country.

If that is so, then I think we must expect in the same Sarawak.
the children treatment introduce could, then, that this as it, in to a Wan Abdul Kadir bin Ismail (Kuala Trengganu Utara): Tuan Yang di- Pertua, pada masa Yang Berhormat Menteri Kewangan mengemukakan usul Ranchangan untok mempersetujui Pembangunan Tambahan saya menyangka perbinchangan kita akan selesai dalam masa yang singkat sahaja, kerana perkara2 yang hendak di-persetujui ia-lah per kara2 yang memang mustahak, tetapi saya hairan sa-kali bahawa anggota2 telah bangun pehak Pembangkang keras dengan dan membangkang bahawa ini, ini sa-kali atas usul ini.
Bila saya men- dengar uchapan Ahli dari Batu dan Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Besut tadi, saya teringat, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, satu cherita yang pernah saya bacha dalam buku kanak2 pada masa saya kechil2 dahulu.

Cherita itu—ma'af, Tuan Yang di-Pertua—cherita "Katak Dalam Kolam".

Konon-nya, sa-kali persetua, ada-lah sa-kumpulan katak ayer dalam kolam yang telah .

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Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah (Keiantan Hilir): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, di-bawah Standing Order 67 bahawa- sa-nya Yang Berhormat itu berchakap ber- di-atas sangkut-paut dengan Supplementary Bill yang ada di-hadapan kita ini.

perkara tidak yang Mr Speaker: Dia belum membayang- kan lagi; hanya preamble sahaja.

Dia belum membayangkan apa cherita-nya sampai habis, baharu-lah kita tahu sama ada masok, atau tidak masok.

Ini baharu dia hendak men- cheritakan sahaja fasal katak.

Jemput cherita katak itu!


lagi ayer yang Wan Abdul Kadir bin Ismail: Terima kaseh, Tuan Yang di-Pertua.

Sa- kumpulan katak dalam kolam empat lima ekor, maka pada satu ketika sangat berlaku-lah kemarau hibat, kering-lah kolam itu.

Maka kelam-kabut-lah katak2 yang beberapa ekor itu bagaimana chara-nya mereka sa-mula hendak mendapatkan dalam kolam kita ini.

Maka ber- meshuarat-lah mereka.


Keputusan meshuarat itu, "kita kena-lah kerah ra'ayat kita segala jenis katak2 yang ada; katak puru, katak pisang dan sa-bagaii-nya".

Maka mereka pun mengerah-lah segala katak2 itu masok itu.

Berderau2-lah ka-dalam kolam katak2 segala makhlok ini ini, memanggil hujan, maka katak dengan takdir Allah subhanahu wata- 'ala turun-lah hujan; bukan kerana katak panggil, tetapi hujan memang hendak turun.

Penoh-lah ayer dalam semua kolam makhlok katak yang tiga empat ekor itu.
Dengan tiba2 pada taihun hadapan, sa-tahun sa-lepas itu, kering pula ayer kolam itu.

"Apa kita hendak buat?"

itu.

"Kita Meshuarat pula mereka kita".

panggil bersukaria-lah semula-lah ra'ayat2 semua, itu, 717 6 JULY 1964 718 tadi Maka saya nampak bagi pehak Pem- bangkang segala bangkangan yang di- suarakan ia-lah chara hendak memanggil ra'ayat menyokong mereka, sa-telah mereka kalah pilehan raya.

Tetapi ra'ayat tidak mudah di-abui mata-nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua.
Chara bangkangan saperti yang di-nyatakan oleh Ahli dari Batu yang tidak hendakkan ranchangan pembangunan yang di-jalankan sa-bagai mengadakan jalan dan jambatan di-bawah Kemen- terian Dalam Negeri, mengadakan ranchangan pembangunan luar bandar kechil2 dan ranchangan pembangunan pelajaran, menunjokkan Ahli yang sa- tidak dudok demikian dalam Dewan ini (Tepok)—dia tidak patut dudok dalam Dewan ini.
itu patut-nya 2 Saya juga rasa geli hati mendengar tadi mengatakan Ahli dari Besut di-Trengganu itu patut di-beri bintang PJ.K.—tetapi bukan P.J.K.

Pingat Jasa Kebaktian tetapi bererti pembangunan itu hanya di-Perak, di-Pahang, di- Johor dan Kedah sahaja.

Saya meng- aku sa-sudah Perikatan memerentah di-Trengganu, sa-sudah jatoh-nya Ahli Besut itu daripada menjadi Menteri Besar dan Ketua Kerajaan Trengganu, maka Trengganu patut di-beri PJ.K.— bukan P.J.K.
Pingat Jasa Kebaktian— Trengganu di-bawah Perikatan ia-lah P.J.K.—Pembangunan Jalan Kenchang di-Pertua, Tuan Yang (Tepok).

bulan 4 tahun dalam masa Yang Berhormat dari Besut menjadi Ketua Trengganu—beri chontoh sahaja—20 batu lebeh kurang jalan raya yang di-bena.

Dalam masa Inggeris meme 60 rentah Trengganu 130 batu di-buat jalan.

Dalam masa 2 tahun Kerajaan Perikatan memerentah Trengganu 260 batu di-buat jalan (Tepok).

Itu hanya baharu jalan.

Belum yang lain2.


Saya mengaku-lah Trengganu dahulu dalam gelap-gelita, dalam keadaan black-out, itu-lah Trengganu dalam masa peme- rentah bahawa ra'ayat telah sedar, dan PAS jatoh.

Maka semenjak Perikatan memerentah Trengganu-lah sinar mata-hari kema- juan, sinar mata-hari kesedaran yang bersinar balek memanchar ka-Trengganu dan ka-Pantai Timor, dan sudah mula masok ka-Kelantan tahun Kerajaan Shukor-lah Kerajaan PAS.

telah (Tepok).
telah (Tepok).

Kita harap dalam masa sa- tahun dua lagi Kelantan itu pun akan mengalami nasib Trengganu juga, biar dia patah di-tengah, biar mata-hari datang ka-Kelantan dalam tahun 1966 atau (An Honourable Member: Hear, hear.)

tahun 1967 sudah Soal2 yang ini, Tuan Yang lain, Tuan Yang di- Pertua, soal jambatan runtoh, soal ini dan itu bukan perkara yang besar— perkara yang memang ada ranchangan, menanti masa dalam hendak sahaja.
Tidak di-jalankan usah-laih, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Besut hendak mengungkit fasal jambatan Penarek.

Untok ma'alum Dewan Yang Berhor mat di-Pertua, itu dalam kawasan Yang Penarek Berhormat Ahli Besut sendiri dalam masa dia menjadi Ketua Kera itu tetapi kawasan jaan Trengganu, jatoh balek ka-tangan sekarang Perikatan, dan memang ran changan hendak membena untok sa-mula jambatan.
Sekarang ini pun kita dapat lihat bahawa pembangunan2 di-jalankan di-sana ada-lah chukup pesat, dan kekalahan PAS di-Pantai di- Timor, Trengganu ia-lah kerana ra'ayat telah sedar, tidak mahu dudok gelap-gelita, mahu chahaya mata hari terang benderang.

kekalahan terutama sa-kali, dalam PAS dan ada ini itu Enche' Lee San Choon (Segamat Selatan): Mr Speaker, Sir, I would to item under "Grants like to refer for Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan".
The Honourable Member for Batu con tradicted himself when he protested strongly that one of the schools in his constituency did not get grants, and on these grants were not a matter of urgency.

I am now beginning to wonder what is the real motive behind the objec tion of the Honourable Member for Batu.

I am wondering whether that is a case of sour grapes.

the other hand said that For the benefit of the Honourable Member for Batu, I would like to say something about the Rahman Talib Report.
But before that, Sir, I would say that, unlike the Honourable Mem ber for Batu, I am a reasonable man.
(Laughter) I, therefore, like to record the a special vote of thanks to 719 6 JULY 1964 720 Sir, Talib Report, the Government Alliance Government and, in particu lar, to our former Minister of Educa tion and the Minister of Finance for what they have done for all Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan, Anyway, for the benefit of the Honourable Member for Batu, may I inform him that under our Rahman all National Schools get 100 per cent capital grant from the Government— this means all Malay Schools.
and has Now, assumed full responsibility for educa this includes education tion, and in Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan, which means National-Type school, but this type of schools all the while have been receiving 50 per cent in capital grant.

Thus, the Malayan Chinese Association felt that the Government could do more, and as members of the M.C.A, we had been pressing the Government for a 100 per cent capital grant.
Our enlightened Government saw our point, and early this year it that it would give 100 per decided schools cent capital grant are irrespective schools.

National or National-Type This is achieved as a result of the representation of the M.C.A.

and, as a representative for Segamat Selatan, I thank the Government for this kind gesture.

of whether to all they As for the timing, the Sir, announcement was made early this year, some time in February this year, and it just happened to be before the election.
Nobody can help I think it is coincidental.

that.

for Batu, Sir, I am also happy to note that during the distribution of the grants the Government announced that that was the beginning of a new deal— there will be more grants to come.
For the information of the Honour able Member the grants distributed some time early this year were not only for Chinese Fully- Assisted National Type Schools but including types of schools, for all Indian schools, Type National English National Type schools as well as Sekolah2 Kebangsaan.
Any the point I way, Mr Speaker, Sir, the that is to make like would for Batu has Honourable Member objected so strongly, in the course of his speech, that certain schools in his constituency did not get any grant proves the urgency of this matter.

So, I do not think his charge is fair, and any reasonable man would not have said what he has said.

Thank you.
Thank you.

the against Enche' Geh Chong Keat (Penang Utara): Mr Speaker, Sir, the Member for Batu, when he rose to make a Government speech motion, sounded like the voice of the frustrated former "Shadow Minister of Education" and the former "Shadow Minister of Finance."

He said that the Socialist Front, if it has got the right to make a decision, it will put the Honourable the Minister of Finance behind bars.

However, this is a fully elected body and by the mere f a c t .
.. Dr Tan Chee Khoon: On a point of clarification.

I did not make any statement of that sort.

I did not say that the Socialist Front would dare put of the Honourable Minister Finance behind bars, Sir.

Enche' Geh Chong Keat: Anyway, the Members sitting here have listened to his statement and it is a matter of the time before Hansard will show actual record.

Sir, as I see it, the Honourable Minister of Finance was elected and that shows that he has the confidence of in his constituency.
The Shadow Minister of Education and the Shadow Minister of Finance of the Socialist Front are both outside the House (Laughter), and that is why I said that the Honour able Member for Batu sounded like the voice of frustration, the phrases of a frustrated man of, i.e.

the Shadow Minister of Education.


the electorate Sir, with regard to the grievances from the Member for Batu, I am sure the Government knows, what the Socialist Front has in its education policy, i.e., if it has control over the Government, that system would be to subvert the next generation to come to the ways and fancies of a to a more leftist, or extreme form of socialism.

Sir, it can the be seen Member for Batu, he was trying to sow the speech of students of that the in 721 6 JULY 1964 722 i.e.
to play seeds of dissension and discontent the U.M.N.O.

ment, against the M.C.A.

and the M.I.C., but the root to it, is that the Socialist Front thrive on com- to munalism.

The Socialist Front wants to split the Malays, the Indians and the Chinese in particular.

That, Sir, is a very dangerous move for the sake of the nation at this time.

trying is and students to have more Sir, we are very glad to see what the M.C.A.

has done for Chinese education, and also what the M.I.C.
members have done for Indian educa tion.

We have seen and we have read reports of increase in the number of classrooms and extensions to buildings of Chinese and Tamil schools, and teachers enrolments have increased many folds.

I do not know whether the Member for Batu and the Socialist Front would like the Government crash programmes.

But I, as Member for Penang Utara, and I am sure my colleagues in the M.C.A.
and members of the M.C.A., would certainly wel come such programmes, because it helps to improve the education of all our citizens as a whole; and we maintain, subscribe and sustain the Education Policy of our Constitution.

Sir, as I have said, I welcome more crash programmes, especially at this time when some of our Chinese Schools in Penang have been missed out.
I have personally handed to the Minister of Education—I was too late to catch former Minister of Education, but now I am going to hitch to the wagon of the of Education—a present Minister request for more classrooms, subsidies and grants in aid.

But what I am not sure is whether the Member for Batu and the Socialist Front are happy and support this grant in aid to Chinese Schools, or are they against it, or are they against the improvement and the building of more Chinese Schools in Malaysia.
That is the point which the Member for Batu has not pointed out to us.

That is what we call his making a speech with a double twist.

train of the the Sir, knowing the Socialist Front and to a certain its educational system extent, I can say that if we have less to They compliment of Education.
schools for these children, as under the former system, the children have got to leave school up to a certain the Socialist Front will standard, conduct classes, as they are doing now, in their premises and they send out teams to the homes to teach the children, and, of course, we know with no uncertain our Government and especially the Mini stry teach Chinese Standard One, Two, Three and Four with standardised school textbooks, but very unfortunately in between lesson time, and even during time, they have got another lesson the children, sheet of paper and how what the is Government and the Alliance Party have sold the Chinese, how they have sold our citizens, and, of course, as line— usual, playing Chinese against the Malays, Malays against the Chinese, and the Indians against the Chinese and the Malays.
Sir, such things are very dangerous.

the communal socialism telling Mr Speaker: How going to take?

long are you Enche' Geh Chong Keat: I will take another ten minutes more, Sir.

Mr Speaker: The time is up.

Enche' Geh Chong Keat: One minute more, Sir.

(Laughter) I am coming to the last page.

Sir, if such things are not properly catered for and if such students are not looked after by the Ministry of Education, then these idle hands and minds will be the the devil's playground of Socialist Front.
So, I am sure, the Ministry of Education will look into it; and the Ministry of the Interior will also have to look into it, because if we find it difficult to flush them out when we raid the premises, we need the the Ministry's help, for Socialist Front Headquarters or pre mises needs the advice and super vision of the Ministry.
to raid Now, Sir, for the sake of the nation, for the sake of the country at this time of confrontation and a more serious "Crush Malaysia" pragramme to come, if we do not look after these younger set of people, we are going to have trouble; we are going to have 723 6 JULY 1964 724 more sacrifices, perhaps the lives of the Members of Parliament Government side the Socialist Front perhaps, when one by one is being popped off.

from together with Mr Speaker: The time is up.


ADJOURNMENT (MOTION) Enche' Mohamed Khir Johari: Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do now adjourn.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: Sir, I beg to second the motion.

betul2 pembelian termasok-lah yang dengan itu ADJOURNMENT SPEECHES "PATENT RIGHTS" DAN HARGA UBAT2 Dr Mahathir bin Mohamad (Kota Star Selatan): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam Anggaran Belanjawan bagi Kemen- terian Kesihatan tiap2 tahun satu mata ia-lah ber- terbesar belanja ubat2.
kenaan Belanja di-dalam Other Charges Annually Recurrent ia-itu belanja yang di-ulang pada tiap2 ini tahun.

Belanja yang besar ia-itu Kerajaan Per- menunjokkan benar2 ikatan ingin dan menggunakan wang untok mengada- kan ubat2 berpatutan supaya ra'ayat ini ada di-dalam Tanah Malaysia keadaan yang sehat.
Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pada fikiran saya belanja yang bagini besar tidak-lah men- faedah yang penoh oleh datangkan undang2 Rights Patent kerana ini Malaysia membawa sekarang ubat2 meningkat kapada harga tingkatan yang tinggi.

Harga yang tinggi ini menyekat Kerajaan daripada menyediakan ubat2 yang baharu dan mustajab dengan chukup.

Keadaan kurang ubat yang mustahak selalu terjadi di-rumah2 sakit Kerajaan.
Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya perhatian Rumah ini ingin yang menarek bahagia di- pada Amerika Sharikat dalam tahun 1962.

Dalam Senate telah mengangkat- Amerika Sharikat kan satu Jawatan-kuasa Menyelidek itu Dewan kejadian tahun pun oleh price chara ubat2 di-jual itu.
Biasa Jawatan-kuasa berkenaan dengan perkara tetap harga fixing berkenaan atau dengan Pharmaceutical Product; telah di-dapati itu ia-itu banyak daripada sharikat2 yang mengeluarkan ubat2 telah pun mem- yang supaya buat di-keluarkan yang di-manifacturekan dengan murah-nya dengan harga yang amat tinggi dan membawa kapada keuntongan yang besar bagi sharikat2 ia-itu ubat2 ini di-manifacture oleh sharikat2 yang kechil, tetapi di-beli oleh shari kat2 yang besar dengan harga yang murah ini sa-lepas menggunakan brand nama-nya sendiri, ubat2 ini di-jual dengan keuntongan yang berpuloh kali ganda.
Chara yang sa-macham kapada harga ubat menjadi mahal dan telah hospital2 juga menahankan doctor2 di-Amerika daripada meng gunakan ubat2 ini untok orang2 sakit dan yang tidak mampu membayar harga ubat2 ini.

ini membawa sharikat2 juga jadi dan dan ada yang Inggeris Inggeris ia-itu Kerajaan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pada masa sekarang ini di-negeri orang Inggeris Kerajaan telah pun meng- ambil perhatian atas perkara Patent Rights dan price fixing.
Baharu2 ini Menteri Kesihatan telah menang dalam satu bichara di-dalam Mahkamah berhak membeli ubat yang di-keluarkan oleh undang2 negeri2 tidak berkenaan dengan Patent Rights, sa- umpama-nya di-Italy dengan harga yang murah, sunggoh pun negeri Inggeris sendiri ada undang2 yang menegahkan kompeni2 yang tidak ada Patent Rights mengeluarkan ubat2 ini.
Dengan sa-chara ini maka dapat-lah Kerajaan untok National Health Service-nya, ubat2 yang mustahak yang kalau di-beli daripada di-negeri-nya sendiri yang ada Patent Rights, tentu- iah yang akan memakan belanja banyak.

Apabila Menteri Kesihatan langkahan yang Inggeris mengambil ini maka sharikat2 yang sa-macham ada Patent Rights telah menyata ia-itu chara melanggar undang2 Patent Rights akan membawa kapada akibat yang burok kapada orang2 ramai juga.
Mereka berkata Inggeris membeli sharikat2 akhir-nya 725 6 JULY 1964 726 ini-lah belanja ia-itu untok menjalankan research atau pun pencharian sa-mula untok menyelidek atau pun penyelide- kan datang-nya daripada jualan ubat2 dengan harga yang tinggi dan penye- lidekan yang membawa kapada ubat2 sa-chara baharu yang amat mustahak itu.
Kalau ubat2 yang mana sharikat ini ada Patent Rights- nya di-jual dengan harga yang murah, sudah di-kehendaki belanja untok menjalankan chara2 menyelidek tidak akan kurang, dan akhir-nya dapat-lah dengan ubat2 baharu yang lebeh mustahak.

dunia berjumpa tentu suatu ubat2 Kesihatan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, itu-lah alasan yang selalu di-keluar oleh sharikat2 supaya ada Patent Rights yang mereka ini boleh menjual dengan harga yang membawa ke- untongan kapada mereka berpuloh kali ganda.
Di-negeri Inggeris masa menukar Kementerian dasar-nya, maka pada jenis antibiotic sahaja Kerajaan telah men- dapat keuntongan lebeh daripada 90% ia-itu umpama-nya kalau dahulu satu capsule itu di-beli dengan harga satu ini di-beli chuma ringgit, sekarang dengan harga 10 sen Ini berma'ana bagis tiap2 orang sakit yang sa-kurang2-nya wajib menggunakan 16 dapat me- ngurangkan belanja daripada $16 ka pada $1.60 sen. Kalau-lah chara2 ini menjimatkan perbelanjaan wang boleh di-jalankan di-negeri Inggeris, suatu negeri tinggi yang menjunjong undang2 berkenaan dengan Patent Rights, saperti ini yang mesti berjimat Malaysia jalan patut mencharikan chermat supaya chara2 di-negeri Inggeris ini dapat di-tiru.
tentu-lah di-negara capsule, Kerajaan sahaja.

kita tukar sikap perchaya, tentu-lah semua, kalau kita Saya nyata kapada selidek berkenaan dan dengan undang2 Patent Rights maka lebeh banyak lagi orang2 yang boleh dapat rawatan yang baik di-rumah2 ia-lah perkara sakit Kerajaan.

Ini tahu yang mustahak.

Saya sendiri berkenaan dengan ubat2 jenis anti biotic yang selalu-nya harga tinggi, kerap kali doctor2 yang ingin gunakan ubat2 ini terpaksa menahankan diri, oleh kerana ubat2 ini terlampau mahal.
Di-hospital2 Kerajaan kadang2 ubat2 ini tidak dapat di-adakan sama sa- kali.

Ubat2 ini memang mustajab dan ada masa-nya boleh menyelamatkan nyawa sa-saorang.

Alang-kah burok- nya jika kadar mahal harga ubat2 ini, nyawa sa-saorang terkorban.

Biasa- juga dalam hospital2 ubat nya jadi yang mahal ini di-khaskan untok orang2 yang dudok di-dalam kelas satu sahaja, oleh kerana mereka itu telah membayar lebeh daripada orang2 yang dudok di-dalam kelas dua dan tiga.
Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya tidak menolak alasan yang di-beri oleh kompeni2 yang mengeluarkan ubat yang mahal itu.

Keuntongan yang besar ini ia-lah mustahak untok men jalankan penyelidekan2 ubat2 baharu, tetapi apa-kah ma'ana-nya kalau kita berkata yang kita berkehendak ke untongan yang besar itu ia-lah supaya kita dapat chari ubat lagi untok menyelamatkan nyawa pada masa yang akan datang, tetapi di-masa ini terkorban kerana ubat juga nyawa yang ada tidak dapat di-beli dengan kerana harga yang tinggi.
Mr Speaker: Masa-nya sa-tengah minit lagi.

Dr Mahathir bin Mohamad: I am finishing.

Mr Speaker: Sa-tengah minit lagi di- benarkan.

Dr Mahathir bin Mohamad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, undang2 Patent Rights ini di-buat di-zaman penjajah untok kepentingan negara2 penjajah dari Eropa.

Undang2 ini chuma memberi protection kapada negara2 yang kuat ekonomi-nya daripada negara2 saperti Malaysia yang lemah ekonomi-nya.

Ini ia-lah satu perkara yang ganjil dan tidak adil.
Bagi mereka sendiri apabila di-dapati undang2 ini mem bawa kapada kerugian kapada ra'ayat mereka Inggeris mereka lagi menukar lengah atau melepaskan diri mereka.

Jadi, tiba pada untok kita sa-mula undang2 khas-nya 'am-nya untok negara Malaysia dan bersabit antara hubongan dengan bangsa.
fikiran saya masa Patent Rights saperti tidak juga mengkaji di-negeri telah 727 6 JULY 1964 728 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya pohon perhatian daripada Yang Berhormat supaya memikir Menteri Kesihatan jika buat per- ada-kah munasabah ubat2 mulaan dengan berkenaan sahaja, kita hadkan Patent Rights bagi tiga tahun sahaja daripada tarikh ini di-Malaysia.

Saya di-daftar ubat menegaskan penting, ini perkara nyawa boleh terkorban jika langkahan tidak di-ambil.
Saya berharap Yang Berhormat Menteri akan bertindak atas perkara2 ini.

Terima kaseh.

(Tepok).

shor2-nya yang The Minister of Health (Enche' Bahaman bin Samsudin): Tuan Yang sa-tinggi2 saya uchapkan di-Pertua, terima kaseh kapada Ahli Yang Berhomat dari Kota Star Selatan terkandong di-atas dalam Uchapan Penanggdhan-nya ini.
Kementerian saya pada petang sedar akan masaalah yang di-kemuka- kan oleh Yang Berhormat itu ia-itu sa-kira-nya dapat di-beli ubat2 dengan harga yang berpatutan, maka ta' dapat tidak akan bertambah elok-nya keadaan dan mutu kesihatan ra'ayat negeri ini.
Sa-kali pun bagitu, meng- ikut Undang2 Patent Rights yang berjalan kuat-kuasa-nya pada hari ini, tidak-lah dapat ubat2 yang maka telah di-beri Patent Rights itu di-beli sa-lain daripada pembuat-nya yang terjamin tertentu ia-itu mereka yang hak-nya di-bawah undang2 tersebut, bagi sa-kira-nya perniagaan biasa, atau normal trade.

Tetapi Kerajaan ada-lah di-kechuali- ini, kan daripada kerana ubat2 yang di-beli-nya ia-lah untok kegunaan negara.
sharat2 undang2 ubat2 ia-lah itu Tidak telah membeli lama dahulu Kementerian sa-jenis ubat2 saya daripada Italy dengan harga kurang satu per sepuloh daripada harga yang di-letakkan oleh pengeluar ubat ter sebut ia-itu pengeluar yang mem- punya'i Patent Rights itu.

Oleh yang Inggeris demikian, saperti di-negeri tidak- juga pembelian Kerajaan kita ini.

lah Saperti Dewan tugas meminda Undang2 Patent Rights itu urusan terkeluar daripada ada-lah ini sa- saya.
Perkara Kementerian terletak di-dalam benar-nya ada-lah terhad oleh Patent Rights ini ma'alum dan saya urusan Kementerian Perdagangan dan juga Kementerian Perusahaan Keadilan.

Sa-kali pun bagitu, Kemen terian ada-lah merundingkan perkara ini dengan Kementerian yang bersangkutan dan mengambil langkah bagaimana-kah untok menentukan keadaan sekarang ini dapat di-baiki.

Terima kaseh.
Terima kaseh.

LADY TEMPLER HOSPITAL, KUALA LUMPUR (INCREASED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE) Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, Sir, I wish to bring to the notice of this the difficult financial position House in the Lady Templer Hospital of Cheras Road, Kuala Lumpur, and to appeal for to increased assistance this highly essential institution.
the Government to Sir, I touched on this subject during the debate on the King's Speech, but for reasons best known to the Minis ter of Health, he had chosen to ignore my appeal on this subject; hence I am forced to bring this up again this evening.

Mr Speaker, Sir, that I need hardly reiterate the Lady Templer Hospital is performing a laudable and highly needed service for the victims of the the disease which is one of major killers in this country.
How ever, it is regrettable that the Govern ment has given scant recognition for the unique services provided by the Hospital.

Most people in the country assume that the Hospital is run by the Government like other hospitals.

This, of course, is far from the truth.

The fact is that it is run by a statu tory Board and that the Government takes only a cursory interest in the Hospital.
The meagre annual contribution of is nowhere half a million dollars compared with the cost of running the Hospital which is about $850,000 per annum on the average.

This is a poor reflection the a hospital which Government renders such invaluable services to the citizens of this country.

the concern of of in The Hospital has 219 beds, and in to 1,075 out 1963 has attended patients, performed 745 operations and 729 6 JULY 1964 730 1,000 cases.
nearly In admitted it has provided an X-ray addition, service to no less than 7,700 persons.

To cap it all, the cost of the treatment per patient per day is only about $15.18.

This is very much lower than the rate charged by the Government hospitals, which is in the region of $25 per patient per day.

Therefore, taking into consideration the fact that the rate of death from T.B.

is sixteen per thousand, and that T.B.


is one of the biggest killers, the Government should immediately increase the grant for this Hospital.

Each year is faced with a big deficit.

The deficit is met contribution which, from through strenuous efforts, comes to about $200,000 per annum.

In spite of that, the Hospital still has a deficit.

The overall deficit for five years since than half a million 1959 dollars.

this Hospital managed to pull on.


That it has pulled on must be due to the effort of the staff who must be con gratulated for their loyalty and hard work under such trying conditions and in spite of acute shortage of funds.

is surprising how is more It the Hospital public I would, therefore, like to appeal to the Government to consider giving an immediate grant to cover the deficit and an annual grant-in-aid of about $0.75 million.

This will mean 50% increase in the annual grant.


I am sure this House will agree with me that this 50% increase in the grant would be a very worthwhile one in view of the invaluable contribution the Hos pital is making towards the treatment this country.

This will of T.B.

render financial worries.

Mr Speaker, Sir, here you have a highly specialised staff and they fritter away a good deal of their time the in raising donations from public.
This is a wanton waste of specialised talent and of public funds.

If to raised stop worrying $750,000, whether they will be able to pay their staff next year and they can get on with their job of healing the sick.

the annual grant free from they can the staff in is Incidentally, up to today the Lady Templer Hospital has not yet been paid this year's annual grant of half a million dollars and is consequently in the red.
Normally it receives the grant by February of the year, and I call on the Minister of Health to look into this matter urgently and send the grant of half a million dollars without any further delay.

to in of for long replacement this country range plans has the What this Hospital and Government what attempts has the Government made to Malayanise this institution?

Now, to replace the Medical Superin tendent is simple as there are enough physicians take over.
Mind you, I am not saying that imme he should be replaced now diately.

The the surgeon is a different kettle of fish.

It is incredible that the Government has not seconded a single of its younger to understudy Mr crop of surgeons the surgeon.
Now, Mr Mcgladdery, Speaker, chest surgeries are highly specialised bran ches of surgery, and I would appeal to the Minister to send one of our young surgeons overseas to do cardiac and chest surgery for a year or two and when he returns to this country, he can understudy Mr Mcgladdery.

the latter When the time comes for to the post leave, we can have Malayanised.

cardiac and Sir, the Finally, what are long range plans of the Ministry for this Hos pital?
The Hospital cannot be run along the present lines ad infinitum.

The Socialist Front proposes that the Hospital should time be handed in over to the Faculty of Medicine of the University of Malaya to be converted into a Teaching Hospital.

dari Batu Penanggohan-nya; Enche' Bahaman bin Samsudin: saya meng- Tuan Yang di-Pertua, uchapkan terima kaseh kapada Ahli atas Yang Berhormat Uchapan yang menarek perhatian saya pada petang ini.
Dia menyebutkan masa Parlimen tidak menjawab yang dahulu saya dalam satu daripada perkara ter- lampau banyak saya terlupa hendak memberi jawapan pada masa itu.

ini, sebab uchapan-nya uchapan-nya 731 6 JULY 1964 732 Saya bantuan sa-banyak $1/2 bahawa suka menyatakan Kerajaan ada-lah sedar akan perkhid- matan yang berharga yang di-beri oleh Rumah Sakit Batok Kering Lady Templer dalam ikhtiar membasmi penyakit batok kering.
Juga Kerajaan kesulitan2 kewangan mengetahui Rumah Sakit Lady Templer itu, dan juga sa-kali pun Kerajaan ada mem- beri juta sa-tahun, tetapi semenjak tahun 1961 Sakit pendapatan Rumah jumlah Lady Templer sentiasa jauh kurang dari jumlah perbelan- jaan-nya.
Perkara perbelanjaan di-sampaikan tahunan kapada Kerajaan oleh Penguasa Lady Templer Hospital dan Kerajaan masa ini sedang menimbangkan dengan sa-halus2-nya soal menambah pemberian tahunan itu, dan keputusan itu ada-lah kekurangan ada-lah telah pun di-atas perkara dengan segera-nya.
ini akan di-ambil perkhidmatan Pada akhir-nya, saya suka menyata kan bahawa Kerajaan juga ada-lah menimbangkan jalan2 dan chara2 yang boleh memperkemaskan dan mem- Rumah perjimatkan Sakit Lady Templer ini dan dengan jalan itu dapat-lah kelak rumah sakit itu menjalankan peranan yang lebeh besar dalam ikhtiar kebangsaan men- chegah batok kering.

Perkara2 yang lain yang di-kemukakan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat ambil perhatian.

saya itu Question put, and agreed to.


Mr Speaker: Meshuarat ini di-tang- gohkan sa-hingga pukul 10.00 pagi besok.

Adjourned at 6.53 o'clock p.m. 733 6 JULY 1964 734 WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND CO-OPERATIVES Assistance to Fishermen and attacks 1.
Enche' C. V. Devan Nair asks the Minister of Agriculture and Co operatives to state (a) what action has been taken to compensate Malaysian fishermen who have been the victims of Indonesian piracy in Malaysian waters; (b) the terms of assistance and/or compensation if any given (c) what Government schemes exist to enable fishermen in the East Coast of Malaya to overcome their hardships arising out of their inability to pursue their normal gainful occupation during monsoon periods.
fishermen; to such The Minister of Agriculture and Co (Enche' Mohamed Khir operatives Johari): (a) and (b) Immediate relief in the form of cash was given to all reported cases which appeared to be genuine.

Generally an interim payment of $25 per fisherman was made pending detailed investigations.

In cases where fishing boats and gears were lost by confiscation a cash relief of $75 per fisherman per month was given.
So far the Government has given out cash relief to fishermen in Penang, Selangor, Malacca, Negeri Sembilan and Johore.

In addition to this State Governments have also given cash relief to fishermen out of State funds.

In order to assess the true nature and extent of hardship and losses sus the fishermen and other tained by workers affected by Indonesian the Confrontation the Government has con ducted a survey and the report of the survey is expected to be completed very soon.
Further action on this matter will be taken after Government has considered the report.

(c) As a result of improved fishing technique and the use of larger and bigger powered motor driven boats most of the fishermen of the East Coast are now able to go out fishing during the monsoon season except for short durations lasting for only a few days.

Apart from this fishing activity practi cally continues throughout the North- East Monsoon season.
In order to improve further fishing activity during the Monsoon periods long the Government has built four houses on the Pulau Redang group of islands off Trengganu.

Kelantan and Trengganu fishermen use these houses as off-shore shelters to enable them to prolong their fishing time during the Monsoon.

MINISTRY OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY Protection to Industries in Sarawak 2.
Enche' Stephen Yong Kuet Tze asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry to state the steps the Central Government the taking manufacturing industries now in exist ence in Sarawak and to protect them from being overwhelmed by com petitors from Singapore.

to assist is in of industries, The Minister of Commerce and Industry (Dr Lim Swee Aun): To assist the local manufacturing Central Government has requested Ministries and Government Depart- ments the to give preference purchase locally manufactured products.
This is set out in General Circular No.

5 of 1963 which had already been issued in the States of Malaya and which will be made applicable including to other States Sarawak.

If the existing industries in Sarawak are operating under a less advantageous condition than those of the manufacturers may Singapore, the Tariff make to representation that Advisory Board the effect to these products be industries the common market excluded from arrangement for the time being.
On the other hand, if common market is the agreed to, protection may take of 735 6 JULY 1964 736 form of imposition of production tax on the import of products from other States.

Gunong Ledang as a Tourist Resort 3.

Enche' Abdul Karim bin Abu bertanya kapada Menteri Perdagangan dan Perusahaan ada-kah Kerajaan berchadang hendak membena Gunong Ledang dan tempat pelanchong, Johor di-jadikan dan jika ada, bila-kah tindakan yang patut akan di-mulakan.
di-sempadan Melaka di-Gunong Ledang sedangkan Dr Lini Swee Aun: Pakar Bangsa2 Bersatu, Mr H. Huckendubler, yang telah di-pinjamkan kapada Kemen- terian ini dalam tahun 1962-63 tidak tempat pera- mengeshor di-adakan kerana nginan bukit2 di-fikirkan-nya peranginan yang ada sekarang tidak mendapat chukup pelanchong2 dari luar negeri, Gunong Ledang harus tempat boleh di-majukan peranginan bagi pendudok2 tempatan tetapi di-timbangkan terpaksa-lah berapa belanja hendak mengadakan tempat itu istimewa oleh kerana sudah ada pun lain2 dan bukit peranginan yang sedangkan bukit2 ini tidak di-gunakan tahun oleh anak2 negeri sa-panjang Malaysia.
peranginan demikian sa-bagai Sa-buah Jawatan-kuasa Kerja telah di-lantek daripada wakil2 hotel, wakil2 pelanchong, penyelenggara lawatan, sharikat2 penerbangan, sharikat2 kapal laut dan sa-bagai-nya dan Jawatan- akan menimbangkan kuasa sa-mula boleh tidak-nya di-adakan bukit peranginan di-Gunong Ledang.

ini Malayanisation in Commerce and Industry 4.
Enche' C. V, Devan Nair asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry to state (a) what progress has been made by the Committee appointed under the Chairmanship of Tun Abdul Razak to review the progress of Malaysianisa- tion Industry; (b) whether Government would consider enlarging this Committee by including trade union representatives; (c) whether in Commerce and the Committee would ask private emp loyers to submit their programme for Malaysianisation and hear employees' representation on this programme and determine how best Malaysianisation in Commerce and Industry could be speeded up.
Dr Lim Swee Aun: (a) The Committee has met and agreed that: (i) the' survey of employment in firms in the States of Malaya carried out by the Ministry of Commerce and Industry should be fully analysed and a report sub mitted to the Committee as soon as possible; (ii) all firms intending to emp loy foreign personnel in the executive and manage rial posts should be advised first to advertise the vacan cies and recruitment from overseas re sorted to only after fail ing resident attract to citizens; should be (iii) the Laws and Regulations relating entry visas to should be amended so that these are brought in con formity with Government policies; (iv) a study be made as soon as possible on the possibility of introducing "work pass" system the entry of genuine foreign personnel required for emp loyment in this country; facilitate to (v) in order to expedite the application for entry visas, the Minister of Commerce Industry should be and entrusted with authority to approve applications from foreign personnel taking up appointments top executive and managerial posts; and the in 737 6 JULY 1964 738 (vi) all other applications from foreign personnel for other grades of posts should be considered by a Committee consisting of the Minister of Commerce and Industry as Chairman two other Ministers.
and is now proceeding Action in accordance with the agreed deci sions of the Committee.

(b) The Committee as at present constituted is considered compe tent to undertake the review of in Com the Malaysianisation merce and Industry.

for Government (c) Decision on this particular pro blem depends upon the final results of the employment survey already referred to in (a) (i).
As this is a delicate matter it is essential to establish the exact nature of the pace of Malaysianisation and to proceed with caution.

As far as pioneer companies and new industries are concerned the submission of training pro grammes for Malaysians and the gradual withdrawal of foreign personnel is one of the condi tions for the granting of pioneer status.

Prices for Malayan Primary Produces 5.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry to state the progress achieved so far to get the highly industrialised countries like Britain and the U.S.A. to give fair and reasonable prices for our primary produce.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: The problem of obtaining fair and reasonable prices for our primary produce is a problem common to all developing countries.
This problem has been presented by the developing countries at all interna tional organisations and also at the United Nations General Assembly.

In the face of all these representations the United Nations convened the Confe rence on Trade and Development at Geneva.

Malaysia played a leading role the problems facing putting forward the primary producers.
These problems were fully discussed by the Conference which has now made several proposals pertaining to commodity agreements, disposals of stockpiles, mixing regula tions and access to markets for imple mentation by the participating coun tries, specialised agencies and all others concerned.

Some other proposals which require further study are being trans mitted to the new proposed organisa tion to be called the Trade and Deve lopment Board to be established by the General Assembly.
Rubber Mission to East European and Communist countries 6.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minis ter of Commerce and Industry to state the progress made by the visit of the Rubber Mission to East European and other communist countries for new markets for rubber.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: The Malaysian Rubber Trade and Goodwill Mission visited Moscow, Warsaw and Prague and also had discussions, at Prague, with rubber delegations from Rumania and Hungary.
The Mission achieved its object of establishing personal contact and closer understanding with buyers of natural rubber in those countries, of ascertaining the conditions of the markets and their requirements and of studying the trade regulations of those countries, thus paving the way for increasing the export of our natural rubber to the East European countries.

Value of Trade between Malaysia and East European and Communist countries 7.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry to state the value of imports and the value of exports of Malaysia with East European other Communist countries.
and Dr Lim Swee Aun: The value of imports and the value of exports of Malaysia with East European and 739 6 JULY 1964 740 other Communist countries are as follows: MALAYSIA TRADE WITH EAST EUROPEAN AND 1962 OTHER COMMUNISTS COUNTRIES, (In $ Million Malayan) Import Export Total 451.2 420.7 30.5 234.2 3.8 238.0 (A) East European Countries (B) Other Com- munist Coun tries Total 264.7 424.5 689.2 Source: Malava External Trade Statistics (1962) Sarawak Statistics of External Trade (1962) North Borneo Statistics External Trade (1962) Note: (A) Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Ru mania, U.S.S.R., and Yugoslovia.
(B) China, North Vietnam, and North Korea.

Companies Granted Pioneer Status 8.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minis ter of Commerce and Industry to state the number of Companies Granted Pioneer Status so far in each of the States of Malaysia.

Dr Lim Swee Aun: The number of Companies Granted Pioneer Status so far in each of the States of Malaysia are as follows: States No.

of Companies 1.

Penang (includes P. Wellseley) ... 2.

Perak 3.

Selangor 4.

Negri Sembilan 5.

Malacca 6.

Johore 7.

Kelantan 8.


Singapore 9.

Sabah 10.

Sarawak ... ... ... as at 24th June, 1964 7 74 2 1 16 1 119 12 15 Total ... 251 Establishment of New Industries in States 9.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minis ter of Commerce and to state the incentives and encouragement that induce new industries to be established in States that have so far been neglected.

is being given Industry to Dr Lim Swee Aun: I believe, the Honourable Member is referring to the States of Malaya.
to individual State The Central Government the leaves it entirely to attract industries by way of providing cheap industrial sites and other facili ties.

The Central Government provides assistance to the States in the form of loan for the development of these sites.

Ultimately the decision to set-up an industry in any State is the decision of the industrialists.

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE Statistics of Indonesian guerillas in Sabah and Sarawak 10.
Dato' Haji Mustafa bin Haji Abdul Jabar bertanya kapada Timbalan Per- dana Menteri konfrantasi di-jalankan oleh Indonesia, berapa-kah jumlah Pengganas2 Indonesia yang telah (a) masok di-Sabah dan Sarawak, (b) di-tawan, terbunoh, (d) menyerah diri.
(c) dapat semenjak Menteri Pertahanan (Tun Haji Abdul Razak): Bilangan2 ini semua- nya ada tetapi di-fikirkan, untok men- jaga rahsia keselamatan, tidak baik di- hebahkan "bilangan gurila2 Indonesia yang terbunoh, di-tawan dan menyerah diri semenjak di-mulakan konfrantasi."

Bilangan gurila2 Indonesia yang telah menyusup masok ka-Sabah dan Sara wak sa-hingga 13hb Jun, 1964, ada-lah di-taksirkan saperti di-bawah ini: 200 ka-Sarawak, dan 200 ka-Sabah.
Malaysian soldiers killed, captured and surrendered to Indonesian guerillas 11.

Dato' Haji Mustafa bin Haji Abdul Jabar bertanya kapada Timbalan Per- serangan2 dana Menteri Indonesia di-lakukan di-Sabah dan jumlah Askar2 Sarawak, berapa-kah Malaysia yang telah (a) di-bunoh oleh Pengganas2 (b) di-tawan Indonesia, semenjak 741 oleh Pengganas2 Indonesia, (c) menye- rah diri kapada Pengganas Indonesia.
Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Bilangan askar2 Malaysia yang terbunoh, che- dera atau menyerah diri kapada orang2 Indonesia ia-lah saperti di-bawah ini: ... 10 orang ... ... (a) terbunoh (b) di-tawan (c) menyerah diri tidak ada tidak ada.

6 JULY 1964 742 MINISTRY OF EDUCATION Enrolment of Students in Schools 12.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to provide the figures as shown in the pro forma below for each of the years from 1956 to 1963: Number of Schools Number of Pupils Type of School MALAY MEDIUM National Schools Sekolah Ra'ayat Private Schools TOTAL CHINESE MEDIUM National Type Schools Partially Assisted Schools Private Schools Private Night Schools TOTAL ENGLISH MEDIUM National Type Schools Partially Assisted Schools Private Schools TOTAL TAMIL MEDIUM National Type Partially Assisted Schools Private Schools TOTAL GRAND TOTAL ... 2.—STUDENTS IN VARIOUS MEDIUM FROM 1956 TO 1963 English Malay Chinese Tamil Primary Secondary P.S.C.
Removed TOTAL ... 6 JULY 1964 744 3.—STUDENTS IN ENGLISH MEDIUM SCHOOLS BY RACE PRIMARY Malay Chinese Indian Others Malay SECONDARY Chinese Indian Malay P.S.C.
Chinese Indian 743 Year 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 The Minister of Education (Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib): The figures to the above are given in Tables "A" to " J ": TABLE "A" ENROLMENTS IN SCHOOLS—30TH SEPTEMBER, 1956 Number of Schools Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total Malay Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent ... 1,795 377 8 81* — 1,876 377 8 360,620 33,985 551 8,200* 502 3 368,820 34,487 554 Total ... 2.180 81 2,261 395,156 8,705 403,861 English Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent ... Total ... Chinese Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent Night ... 62 88 243 393 27 66 105 198 3 932 377 1 46 24 )t availab le Nc 89 154 348 591 4 978 401 413,040 47,815 40,719 23,468 21,890 21,761 436,508 69,705 62,480 501,574 67,119 568,693 927 250,047 42,517 474 24,239 3,127 Not available 1,401 274,286 45,644 Total ... 1,312 71 1,383 293,491 27.840' 321.331 Indian Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent ... Total ... 35 842 25 902 10 51 45 893 25 61 963 .. 4,999 42,408 805 48,212 393 241 4 638 5,392 42,649 809 48,850 GRAND TOTAL ... 4,787 411 5,198 .
1,238,433 104,302 1,342,735 * Refers to pupils in Std.

7 of Malay Medium Primary Schools.
745 6 JULY 1964 TABLE "B" 746 ENROLMENTS IN SCHOOLS AS AT 31ST JANUARY, 1957 Number of Enrolments Schools Primary Secondary Total English Schools— Government Aided Private Malay Schools— Government Aided Private Chinese Schools— Government Aided Private Day Private Night Indian Schools— Government Aided Private Total .. 153 98 235 486 1,805* 2,315* — — 2,315 — 30,052 3,607 1,819 35,478 182 258 — 440 93,677 84,918 52,295 230,890 401,146 42,736 910 444,792 840 339,670 41,437 26,978 408,925 4,932 46,264 604 51,810 GRAND TOTAL .. 4,934 1,030,538 105,879 1,136,417 * Refers to pupils in Std.
7 of Malay Medium Primary Schools.
TABLE "C" ENROLMENTS IN SCHOOLS AT 31ST Number of Schools JANUARY Ni 1958 mber of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total English Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent .. 261 16 217 114 4 115 Total ... 494 263 Malay Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent ... 1,927 355 5 Total ... 2,287 405 20 332 757 1,927 355 5 2,287 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 143,527 5,202 29,934 56,891 313 22,705 200,418 5,515 52,639 178,663 79,909 258.572 422,000 45,411 306 467,717 — 422,000 45.41JL 306 467,717 747 6 JULY 1964 TABLE "C"—(COM.)
748 ENROLMENTS IN SCHOOLS AT 31ST JANUARY, 1958—(cont.)

Number of Schools Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total Chinese Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent Night .. 737 260 146 202 Total ... 1,345 Tamil Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent .. Total ... 874 — 21 895 12 41 16 17 86 — __ 749 301 162 219 1,431 874 — 21 895 GRAND TOTAL .
.. 5.021 349 5,370 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 260,112 80,616 26,572 23,646 5,780 28,250 4,591 1,918 265,892 108,866 31,163 25,564 390,946 40,539 431,485 53,262 — 738 54,000 __ — — — 53,262 — 738 54,000 1.091.326 120,448 1.211.774 TABLE " D" E N R O L M E N TS IN SCHOOLS—30TH J A N U A RY , 1959 Number of Schools Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total English Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent ... 286 2 250 150 1 154 Total ... 538 305 Malay Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent .. 1,657 305 287 — — Total ... 2,249 Chinese Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent .. 821 192 310 Total ... 1,323 Indian Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent .. Total ... 840 — 17 857 11 41 42 94 — — 436 3 404 843 1,657 305 287 2,249 832 233 352 1,417 840 — 17 857 GRAND TOTAL .. 4,967 399 5,366 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..: 161,744 453 24,040 64,416 429 25,654 226,160 882 49,694 186,237 90,499 276,736 428,327 49,868 326 478,521 — — — — 423,327 49,868 326 478,521 293,678 58,487 20,216 7,374 30,807 7,294 301,052 89,294 27,510 372,381 45,475 417,856 56,307 — 435 56,742 — — — — 56,307 — 435 56,742 1,093,881 135,974 1,229,855* * Does not include pupils in Chinese Night Schools or Further Education Classes.
749 6 JULY 1964 TABLE "E' 750 ENROLMENTS IN SCHOOLS- •31ST JANUARY, 1960 Number of Schools Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total English Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ...

Independent Total ... Malay Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ...

Independent 305 2 209 516 1,969 362 10 155 1 122 278 — — Total ... 2,341 Chinese Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ...
Independent Night 881 131 134 147 13 40 29 24 460 3 331 794 1,969 362 10 2,341 894 171 163 171 177,013 468 27,100 76,062* 489 26,303 253,075 957 53,403 204,581 102,854 307,435 439,132 46,880 810 486,822 316,294 38,492 17,112 13,697 90 If — — 901 6,785 32,043 12,514 1,610 440,033 46,880 810 487,723 323,079 70,535 29,626 15,307 Total ... 1,293 106 1,399 385,595 52,952 438,547 Indian Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ..
Independent Total .. 815 — 17 832 _ — 2 2 815 — 19 834 60,726 — 495 61.221 — — 267 267 60,726 — 762 61,488 GRAND TOTAL ... 4,982 386 5,368 ... 1,138,219 156,974 1,295,193 * Includes 4,052 pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes in English Medium Schools.

t Pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes attached to Sekolah* Kebangsaan.
TABLE "F" ENROLMENTS IN SCHOOLS—31ST Number of Schools JANUARY, 1961 Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total English Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent .. Total ... 316 2 225 543 170 1 131 302 Malay Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted Independent .. 2,102 193 10 Total .. 2,305 486 3 356 845 2,102 193 10 2,305 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 196,403 320 27,912 224,635 471,960 29,539 1,009 90,509* 571 30,764 121,844 l,311f 286,912 891 58,676 346,479 473,271 29,539 1,009 502,508 1,311 503,819 * Includes 6,847 pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes attached to Medium Schools.
t Pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes attached to Sekolah2 Kebangsaan.

751 6 JULY 1964 TABLE "F"—{cont.)

752 ENROLMENTS IN SCHOOLS—31ST JANUARY, 1961—(com.)

Chinese Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ...
Independent Night Number of Schools Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total 941 81 132 120 22 38 46 26 ... 963 119 178 146 329,068 23,613 15,756 12,639 9,098 28,695 16,440 1,508 338,166 52,308 32,196 14,147 Total ... 1,274 132 1,406 ... 381,076 55,741 436,817 Indian Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ...

Independent Total ... 784 — 14 798 — — 2 2 784 — 16 .
63,917 438 800 ... 64,355 — — 301 301 63,917 — 739 64,656 GRAND TOTAL ... 4,920 436 5,356 .. 1,172,574 179,197 1,351,771 TABLE "G" ENROLMENT IN SCHOOLS—31ST JANUARY, 1962 Number of Schools Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total English Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ...

Independent Total ... Malay Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted .., Independent 320 2 208 530 2,183 180 6 182 — 135 317 — — Total ... 2,369 Chinese Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ..
Independent Night Schools 1,005 15 108 86 49 — 62 15 502 2 343 847 2,183 180 6 2,369 1,054 15 170 101 ... 209,026 263 27,767 106,811* — 33,390 315,837 263 61,157 237,056 140,201 377,257 .. 476,368 24,151 406 500,925 347,410 761 10,115 7,242 l,625t — __ 1,625 23,005 — 33,536 874 477,993 24,151 406 502,550 371,415 761 43,651 8,116 Total .. 1,214 126 1,340 365,528 58,415 423,943 Indian Medium— Fully assisted Partially assisted ..
Independent Total .. — — 745 — 13 758 745 -— 13 758 66,504 — 361 66,865 — — — — 66,504 __ 361 66,865 GRAND TOTAL .. 4,871 443 5,314 1,170,374 200,241 1,370,615 * Includes 11,599 pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes attached to English Medium Schools.

t Pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes attached to Sekolah* Kebangsaan.
753 6 JULY 1964 TABLE "H" 754 ENROLMENT IN SCHOOLS—31ST JANUARY, 1963 Number of Schools Number of Pupils Primary Secondary Total Primary Secondary Total Malay Medium— National Schools Sekolah Ra'ayat Private Schools 2,204 104 1 2,204 104 1 ... .. .

.

511,320 12,654 29 3,924* 225 515,244 12,654 254 Total ... 2,309 2,309 .. 524,003 4,149 528,152 English Medium— National Type Schools ...

Partially Assisted Schools Private Schools 330 3 179 247f 150 577 3 329 .

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216,056 348 19,012 151,219t 39,465 367,275 348 58,477 Total ... 512 397 909 .. 235,416 190,684 426,100 Chinese Medium— National Type Schools ...

Partially Assisted Schools Private Schools Private Night Schools ... ... 1,003 10 136 57 Total ... 1,206 Tamil Medium— National Type Schools ...

Partially Assisted Schools Private Schools Total 720 11 731 1,003 10 207 70 1,290 .. .

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.

.. .. 71 13 84 339,136 693 5,476 5,549 34,965 834 339,136 693 40,441 6,383 350,854 35,799 386,653 720 .. 67,649 11 .. 336 731 .. 67,985 — 67,649 356 67,985 Total Assisted ... 4,374 Total Private 384 247 234 4,621 .. .

1,147,856 155,143 1,302,999 618 .. 30,402 75,489 105,891 GRAND TOTAL ... 4,758 481 5,239 .. .

1,178,258 230,632 1,408,890 * Pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes attached to Sekolah2 Kebangsaan.

t Includes 58 Conforming Chinese Secondary Schools.
t Includes 15,986 pupils in Malay Medium Secondary Classes attached to National Type Secondary Schools and 30,680 pupils in conforming Chinese Secondary Schools.

TABLE "I" STUDENTS IN VARIOUS MEDIUM IN ASSISTED SCHOOLS 1956 1957 1958 1959 I960 1961 1962 1963 Malay Medium Primary Secondary* P.S.C.

Remove English Medium Primary Secondary P.S.C.


Retro ve 394,605 443,882 467,411 478,195 485,976 501,499 500,519 523,974 19,910 8,702 — 13,224 4,953 8,158 — — 460,855 130,360 147,701 162,333 177,403 196,190 208,831 216,394 77,755 101,123 117,760 45,358 2,145 2,025 — 15,328 16,069 — 67,164 11,565 3,770 47,056 1,179 — 59,816 1,381 3,398 51,471 1,201 2,977 1,728 4,750 755 6 JULY 1964 TABLE "T"—(cont.)

756 STUDENTS IN VARIOUS MEDIUM IN ASSISTED SCHOOLS—(cont.)
1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 Chinese Medium Primary Secondary* P.S.C.

Remove 24,713 339,670 ... 250,974 310,458 340,728 349,480 354,474 352,335 348,171 339,829 ... ... — ... — 26,291 — — 11,502 — 27,799 — 11,029 37,181 — — 34,029 — — — — — — — Tamil Medium Primary Secondary P.S.C.

Remove 47,407 51,206 53,262 56,307 60,726 63,917 66,504 67,649 * The figures for secondary enrolment do not include enrolments in Post-School Certificate and Remove Classes—they have been shown separately.
TABLE "J" STUDENTS IN ENGLISH MEDIUM ASSISTED SCHOOLS BY RACE Year 30-9-56 31-1-57 31-1-58 31-1-59 31-1-60 31-1-61 31-1-62 31-1-63 Year 30-9-56 31-1-57 31-1-58 31-1-59 31-1-60 31-1-61 31-1-62 31-1-63 Year 30-9-56 31-1-57 31-1-58 31-1-59 31-1-60 31-1-61 31-1-62 31-1-63 Malay 27,711 34,991 39,817 46,180 54,190 55,161 57,873 55,663 Chinese 49,222 59,469 64,828 68,537 74,595 86,280 95,324 107,310 Indian 20,738 33,336 40,176 44,826 48,346 51,488 52,574 50,356 Others 1,971 2,564 2,880 2,790 2,972 3,201 3,069 3,075 SECONDARY Malay 13,174 15,885 20,360 25,956 29,730 33,586 34,078 34,900 Chinese 19,567 22,010 24,402 27,053 30,381 35,473 67,824 80,007 Indian 8,417 8,136 8,680 9,241 9,885 12,491 14,077 16,842 Others 1,101 1,025 1,006 962 938 1,055 1,213 1,339 Malay Chinese Indian Others Figures not available 195 187 281 300 292 402 447 716 752 841 1,000 1,168 1,338 1,422 248 243 231 222 2,333 255 253 20 19 28 43 35 30 23 Report of the Higher Education Planning Committee 13.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state whether (a) the Higher Education Planning Committee has completed its report, if not, whether the Minister would pub lish an interim report on the findings so far; (b) whether the report would be made public and, if so, when.

Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: (a) The Higher Education Planning Committee has not yet comple ted its report.
It may be stated that the preliminary work of the Committee has been completed and that detailed consideration is now being given to the various parts of the terms of reference of the Committee in preparation for the writing of the report.

There is, however, no intention to publish an interim report for it is not thought that this will serve any useful purpose.

(b) The report will be made public when it is completed and pub lished, but it is yet a little too early to state as to when this could be done.
Housing Allowance to Teachers 14.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state (a) the reasons for stopping, especially in 757 6 JULY 1964 758 Penang since June 1963, the payment of Housing Allowances to teachers who went for training prior to 1957 and have been placed on the old Benham Salary Scheme which paid Housing (b) whether Housing Allowances; Allowances would be paid to all such teachers as those in the Benham Salary Scheme.
Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: (a) Payment of Housing Allowance is not a normal condition of service for non-government tea the Benham Salary chers on Scale, except for those who had negotiated with the Government on this specific issue.

The cate gory of teachers referred to by the Hon'ble Member was not amongst those accepted and as such they could not draw this allowance.
In certain cases these teachers such were erroneously paid allowance and had to cease drawing it as soon as the mis take was detected.

(b) The matter, however, is being actively examined by my Minis try the in conjunction with National Joint Council for Tea chers.

It that a is expected decision will be made in due course.

Specialist trained Teachers the 15.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks to state why Minister of Education teachers who have had specialist training at Cheras and Overseas have not been given the jobs for which they have been trained.

is not true have to say been Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji that Talib: It teachers who given specialist training at Cheras and over seas have not been given jobs for which trained.

The vast majority of such teachers have been teaching duties.
Those who were not given those who such duties were mainly could not be directed by the Ministry they have been appropriate given jobs appropriate their conditions of service to under schools where to their training could have been given, or those, for example, in the case of married women teachers, perforce to be transferred to schools where such specialist training is not available.
With the introduction of the com prehensive form of education begin- ing in 1965, all over the States of the Malaya, services of such specialist teachers will be assured.

the full utilisation of Tamil and Chinese classes in Schools 16.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state why in many schools classes in Tamil and Chinese have still not been started although the Government has pro mised this last year that such classes would be started.
to provide for Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Since the action taken last year by my Ministry the teaching of Chinese and Tamil, a large number of classes have already there are been started.

At present, about 2,360 such classes already.

I that such classes should point out would be started only where the parents of 15 or more children in the school so requested.
I am investigating whether any such classes had not been started even though there has been such a demand the and until details, I am not in a position to give definite reasons why such classes have not already been started.

I have received all the 17.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks Minister of Education to state whether these classes are or will be held during normal school hours, and if not, to state the reasons.
Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Wherever possible, such classes are and will be held during normal school hours.

However, where circum stances demand, for example, lack of in the number teachers, insufficiency 759 6 JULY 1964 760 the school of pupils to form a class without disorganising timetable, arrangements are made to hold these classes outside normal school hours.

In such a case, the matter is left to the discretion of the head teacher.
Allowance for teaching Chinese or Tamil as a third language 18.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state why teachers who teach Chinese and Tamil as a third language in addition to English and Malay are not given an extra language allowance even though the teaching is done during normal school hours, like clerks and officials in the Police and Judicial Departments.
Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: A teacher who is employed full- time by a school is not paid an extra allowance for teaching a normal sub ject, including a language subject, of the school curriculum especially during normal school hours.

Only where teachers are employed from outside to do part-time teaching, not only in a third language but also in subjects like Science, are paid allowances at rates prescribed by this Ministry.
Subsidy to Secondary and Higher Education Schools other than Malay or English 19.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state whether it is the policy of the Alliance Govern ment not to subsidise Secondary and Higher Education in media other than the official languages of the country.

Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Yes, with the exception of subsidies given to some Muslim Reli gious institutions, the policy of the Alliance Government is so.
Statistics of Failures in School Examinations 20.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state for the years 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963 (a) the number of students who failed the the L.C.E.

M.S.S.E.

Examination, Examination and the Federation of Malaya Certificate Examination or the Cambridge Overseas School Certificate Examination; (b) number of (i) Malay, (ii) Others who failed these examination because of failure to pass Malay or the National Language.
Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: The particulars are given at "A", "B" and "C" below: MALAYAN SECONDARY SCHOOLS ENTRANCE EXAMINATION RESULTS (1960-1963) CATEGORY Language Medium Year _ __ Malay ,, ,, ,, English ,, ,, ... ,, ... Chinese ,, ,, ... Tamil ,, ,, ... • • • ... ... ... 1960 1961 1962 1963 1960 1961 1962 1963 1960 1961 1962 1963 1960 1961 1962 1963 ... .. .. ... .. .. .. .. .. .. .. 308 108 616 1,045 5,057 4,455 6,281 5,823 3,104 2,976 4,287 4,918 145 92 149 169 B(*2) 2,050 1,708 4,304 6,335 5,506 6,974 8,281 6,877 6,115 8,075 8,017 8,794 594 559 711 880 C(*3) 13,337 5,389 7,197 6,722 12,848 7,260 5,972 4,859 15,832 8,917 4,929 5,308 2,068 868 667 824 D(*4) 15,352 32,056 22,646 24,145 6,673 20,742 11,342 8,223 5,818 23,570 3,284 5,088 1,683 3,377 582 1,290 tX — 6,327+ 3,208+ 29,597 17,920 — 3,175 1,775 Total 31,047 39,261 34,763 38,247 30,084 39,431 38,203 28,990 30,869 43,538 50,114 42,028 4,490 4,896 5,284 4,938 * The category letters A, B, C, D were changed to 1, 2, 3, 4 respectively as from 1961.
Previously A and B were clear passes while C meant ''borderline".

From 1961, 1, 2 and 3 stand for clear passes.

t Failed Examination because of failure in National Language.

Came into force in 1962.

X Include Malay Pupils.

761 6 JULY 1964 762 "B" L.C.E.

EXAMINATION A—RESULTS ANALYSIS (1960-1963) Year No.

Sat No.

Promoted without No.

Failed No.

passed promotion 1960 27,999 11,116 6,828 10,055 1961 34,049 11,062 9,379 13,608 1962 39,651 12,604 8,169 18,878 1963 48,184 15,782 10,650 21,752 B—No.
WHO FAILED THE EXAMINA TION OWING TO FAILURE IN NATIONAL LANGUAGE Year 1960 1961 1962 1963 No.

Failed* 3,915 1,436 * A pass in National Language became compulsory from 1962 onwards.

Breakdown by races not available but the figures include Malay pupils.

OVERSEA SCHOOL CERTIFICATE/ FEDERATION OF MALAYA CERTI FICATE EXAMINATIONS 1960 TO 1963 NUMBER OF PASSES AND FAILURES* Overseas School Certificate Year Sat Failed Assisted 8,219 1960 .. 8,826 .

.. 1961 .

10,663 .. 1962 .


11,120 .. 1963 Private 3,699 3,938 3,841 4,308 Assisted 3,010 3,409 4,731 4,500 Private 2,623 2,894 2,685 2,863 1960 1961 1962 1963 Year 1960 1961 .. 1962 1963 Federation of Malaya Cert.

(English Medium) Year Sat Failed Assisted Private Assisted 5,693 1.483 6,650 4,308 1.777 8,316 6,287 2,631 11,008 6,020 3,647 11,699 Private 1,187 1,145 1,748 2,564 Federation of Malaya Cert.
(Malay Medium) Sat Failed Assisted and Private Nil Nil 1,166 2,546 Assisted and Private Nil Nil 425 1,248 NOTE—Figures above have been obtained from the Local Cambridge Examinations Syndicate but figures for *(1) breakdown by races and (2) figures for failure due to failing in National Language are not available.

The results of these Examinations are processed the University of Cambridge Local by Examinations Syndicate.

Post School Certificate Classes 21.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state the for number of pupils who qualified admission to the Post School Certifi cate Classes and of the number qualified the number who failed to get admission, by the years race, 1961, 1962 and 1963. for to the reply these classes Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji is Talib: The Honourable Member referred to his next Question, wherein the mode of entry is explained.

The to as given required below.


It should be noted the years stated in the table refer to the years of the Entrance Examination, i.e., the pupils have been admitted to Sixth Form Classes in the following year.

information that is MALAY 4) £ •OS © -m fl in rt SO | | SW.| |.sll8 182 221 202 s o h .

x:S S* Z 848 1,517 1,562 5 1961 1962 1963 ... ... ... ARTS STREAM CHINESE INDIANS OTHERS £ .

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•0*5 -W o h .

» ° 5 «J — .CO rt X •2 o S ^ Jg.S"3Ww 275 334 426 s™ 364 492 584 1,266 1,849 2,006 84 107 85 a u O fa .

MB S™ Z 109 164 163 « r?

9 *° S 2.9-338 7 9 23 763 1961 1962 1963 o u- .


*B lw o| 208 269 297 6 JULY 1964 SCIENCE STREAM 764 CHINESE INDIANS OTHERS B o 2fl 186 202 202 •I s^ly x*5 w S; 49 46 33 — tU O £2 C .T^n * x « vO eg pW « « X< •» 5 &WfcU ° hJ W3 *J -- • » e r) — 2 17 .cS » X :w ' -J •c 28 41 35 zw 1,087 1,492 1,688 66 124 172 411 527 567 NOTE—These figures are compiled from returns sent by 6th Form Schools.

The number of pupils admitted depends on the number of places available.

22.
22.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state whether all pupils who qualified for P.S.C.

Classes were given places; if not, to state the criteria and the reasons for rejecting pupils who are qualified for admission.

Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: A pupil's place in the Lower Sixth Form class is determined by two factors: (a) his results in the Lower Sixth Entrance Examination, and (6) his results in the S.C./F.M.C.

Examination.
Examination.

All candidates classified in Category "A" and Category " B" in the Sixth Form Entrance Examination are pro visionally placed in the Lower Sixth Form Classes in January.

Their places are confirmed if they pass subsequently in the S.C./F.M.C.

Examination and obtain an aggregate score of 15 units and less in their best three cognate subjects.

Candidates who satisfy the requirements just mentioned have all been placed in the Lower Sixth Form classes.
Those Category "C" candidates who are placed provisionally in the Lower Sixth Form classes in January will be confirmed in their places if they obtain an aggregate score of 10 units and less in their best three cognate subjects in the S.C./F.M.C.

Examination.

Candi dates with such qualifications have all been confirmed in their places.
All other candidates who did not sit the Sixth Form Entrance Examination or who failed in that examination or who have to leave the Lower Sixth Form classes because of an "aggregate" of more than 10 units in their best three cognate subjects can apply for their S.C./F.M.C.
places based on Examination results; but before an the application will be considered following conditions must be fulfilled: (i) The aggregate score of the best three cognate subjects must not exceed 15 units; (ii) The lowest grade in any of the three cognate subjects must be a Credit.

The fulfilment of the conditions at (i) and (ii) above enables the candidates to become eligible to apply for places but does not necessarily entitle them to get those places there are no more available.
if Selection is on a strict order of merit as well as satisfactory performance in language subjects.

Transport of School Children the 23.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks Minister of Education to state what action is being taken by his Ministry to solve the problem of transport of school children.
Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Sympathetic as my Ministry is with this problem, it is unable because of the present financial position of the 765 6 JULY 1964 766 country and the necessity to finance more urgent educational projects, to provide subsidy or other form of assistance for the transport of school children.

Until the financial position of the country improves, I regret that it is not possible to take action on the matter.

Free Text Books for Pupils the 24.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state amount of money spent by his Ministry for assistance in the buying of Text Books for pupils, and the amount that would be needed on the basis that (a) all pupils are to be supplied with free text books, (b) only needy pupils were to be so supplied.

Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: The money which will be spent this year by my Ministry for assistance in text books for pupils is $980,000.
This assistance is only for pupils of Sekolah2 Kebang saan : the purchase of (a) The amount that would be needed if all pupils were to be supplied with free text books is $22 be estimated million based on a low average cost of $15 per primary pupil and $30 per secondary pupil.

about to (b) The is term "needy" relative and is difficult to define.

I leave it to the Honourable Member to determine his own percentage of needy pupils and to calculate the required propor amount tionately from (a) above.

the 25.
the 25.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks Minister of Education to state, by race and by State, the number of pupils who are being assisted in the matter of text books.

Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: In keeping with the national educational policy, basic text books are supplied free to about 530,000 pupils in Sekolah Kebangsaan all over the States of Malaya.

For the Honourable information is Member the Sekolah Kebangsaan irrespective of open to all children the of their racial origins.
The breakdown by States is as follows: SEKOLAH KEBANGSAAN (AS AT 31ST JANUARY, 1964) State Selangor Negri Sembilan ... Malacca Johore Pahang Trengganu Kelantan Perlis Kedah Penang Perak Primary 52,492 30,045 28,363 79,659 30,533 43,099 66,455 10,921 81,347 28,892 78,633 .. Total .

.. 530,439 MINISTRY OF FINANCE Import and Excise duties in Sarawak on Cigarettes 26.
Enche' Ling Beng Siew asks the Minister of Finance when the Central Government will take steps to change the present rates of Import and Excise duties in Sarawak on cigarettes to the same rates as are now imposed in Malaya or Singapore.

The Minister of Finance (Enche9 Tan Siew Sin): This question has revenue implications and as such, I am not in a position to give a reply at this juncture.
However, the Government has set up a special committee to review the question of taxation on cigarettes and tobacco, and the committee will no doubt examine the situation in Sarawak as well.

The report of the committee is awaited.

the Central Government Import and Excise duties on Tobacco 27.
Enche' Stephen Yong Kuet Tze asks the Minister of Finance to state whether is aware of the hardship suffered by Sarawak local manufacturers caused by the imposition of higher excise and import duty on that obtaining in Singapore or Malaya and if so whether the Central Government will take immediate step to remedy the situation.
tobacco than 767 6 JULY 1964 768 the tobacco since Enche' Tan Siew Sin: The present rates of import duty and excise on cigarettes in Sarawak are designed to give encouragement to the use of home grown rates are weighted in favour of domestic ciga rettes.
It is considered that under the present conditions, the rates shown below are not entirely unfavourable to the home manufacturers in Sarawak: Import duty on cigarettes $11 per lb Import duty on unmanu ... factured tobacco Excise duty on local cigarettes 3 „ 7 „ It is considered that the adoption of Malayan rates of duty in Sarawak would not be practicable at this stage since the it would adversely affect tobacco growers and tobacco dealers who make "ang hoon" (i.e.
cut tobacco for smoking with "daun apong") and "cheroots".

However committee referred to in my reply to the previous question will no doubt give an oppor tunity to the Sarawak domestic manu facturers to make representations.

special the Further, it is to be noted that the question of harmonisation of duties is within the Tariff Advisory Board.

the purview of MINISTRY FOR LOCAL GOVERN MENT AND HOUSING Re-development Plan for Kuala Lumpur 28.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state why a comprehen sive re-development plan has never been attempted for the whole of Kuala Lumpur.

The Minister for Local Govern (Enche' Khaw ment and Housing Kai-Boh): The UN Planning Adviser (Mr Antolic) has in fact prepared a development for Kuala Lumpur and Klang Valley Region which is under consideration.

This plan also includes re-development of the Central Area of Kuala Lumpur.

29.
29.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state whether the Commis sioner for Town Planning has made any recommendations for the over-all development of Kuala Lumpur.

If so would the Minister state the recom mendations.

Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: The Com missioner for Town and Country Plan ning has made certain recommendations for the overall development of Kuala Lumpur which are at present under consideration.

It is not possible for the Minister to reveal them at this stage.
Antolic Plan for Kuala Lumpur and Klang Valley 30.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state (a) why the Antolic Plan for Kuala Lumpur and the Klang Valley has never been discussed in Parliament or released to the public since it was completed by the UN expert 5 years (b) whether Government intends to scrap this Plan if so, whether Government has any other Plan: if not, when this Plan would be implemented.
ago, Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: (a) The Antolic Plan completed three years ago is a voluminous report (1,000 pages and 100 drawings).

A number of autho rities has to be consulted on the plan.

The complicated issues raised by the plan involve new legislation and re-assessment of the proposals.

The technical content of the Antolic Plan has to be reviewed, extended and brought up-to-date in the light of more recent statistics and analyses.
There is also the ques tion of concern about specula tion if the plan were disclosed and the need for Government to arm herself with protective powers in advance.

Moreover, no official plan has yet been received the United Nations.

The question of discus sion in Parliament or release to the public does not arise until this Ministry is in a position to do so.

from (b) In view of the answer given to (a) the need to reply to (b) does not arise.
769 6 JULY 1964 770 Speculation in Land in Kuala Lumpur and Klang 31.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state whether any steps have been taken td prevent speculation in land in Kuala Lumpur and the Klang Valley.

Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: Legislation to curb speculation in land is currently under examination by Government, along with new town and country plan ning legislation and powers of compul sory land acquisition.
Government is very conscious indeed of the need to disclose and discuss freely town and country planning schemes but before being able to do so it is imperative she arms herself with unassailable powers to acquire land at reasonable and not speculative prices.

Klang Valley Regional Committee 32.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state the functions of the Klang Valley Regional Committee and to what extent is responsible for the development of the Klang Valley, especially (a) the Federal Capital, (b) the State Capital of Selangor, (c) the Industrial Centre.
this committee Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: The terms of reference of the Kuala Lumpur and Klang Valley Regional Committee are: "To consider all major proposals for development of alienated and State Land in the districts of Kuala Lumpur and Klang and to advise on the use of the land and form of development, having regard to the position of Kuala Lumpur as the Federal and State Capital provided that in the case of alienated land only major projects of national importance are considered."
The responsibility of the Committee is to advise its constituent members.

Insofar as the Federal Capital is concerned it is the Commissioner for Kuala Lumpur.

Insofar as the State Capital is con cerned it is the Selangor State Govern ment, and Insofar as the Industrial Centre (at Batu Tiga) is concerned it is also the Selangor State Government.

The Committee has no executive powers.

Diplomatic Enclave 33.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state (a) the amount of money spent on the development of the Diplomatic Enclave, (b) who paid the (c) how much has been money, recovered.

Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: A Trust Fund was created for the development of the Diplomatic Enclave.

So far $4,220,956.82 has been spent on the development of the area.

No monies have been recovered since the develop ment has not yet been completed and sites not sold.
Selangor State Capital and Industrial Site at Batu Tiga 34.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state whether the Commis sioner for Town Planning was consulted on the question of the pro posed state capital for Selangor, and also the proposed industrial estate at Batu Tiga.

If so would the Minister state the advice given by the Com missioner.
Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: The Com for Town and Country missioner Planning was consulted by the State Government of Selangor in his capacity as a Member of the State New Town Committee on the question of the proposed State Capital for Selangor and the proposed industrial estate.

This is a State matter and therefore the Minister is not in a position to say what advice was given by the Com missioner to the State Government.

MEDIUM AND LOW-COST HOUSING Houses for Low-income groups 35.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state the number of units of houses built since 1959 (a) for those drawing incomes of $150 and more and (b) for those drawing incomes of less than $150 for each of the states showing the number built, (i) by Local Authorities, (ii) by State Governments, (iii) by the Federal Government, (iv) by the Housing Trust, (v) by others, if any.
771 6 JULY 1964 772 Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: It is not possible to answer this question in the classifications required of the Hon'ble Member for Batu.

However, insofar as low cost housing schemes built with Federal Loan Funds are con for cerned, persons with an aggregate family income of $300 and less, a statement is given below : is, houses built that State STATEMENT OF LOW COST HOUSES BUILT SINCE 1959 WITH FEDERAL LOAN FUNDS Local Authority — — — — 145 212 1,316 No.

State 1.

Perlis ... 2.

Trengganu 3.


Kelantan ... 4.

Kedah ... 5.

Penang 6.

Perak ... 7.

Selangor... 8.

Negri Government — — — 336 270 917 493 Sembilan 9.

Malacca 10.

Johore 11.

Pahang ... ... — — 214 50 304 82 961 50 Total ... 1,937 3,413 STATEMENT OF Low COST HOUSES UNDER CONSTRUCTION Local Authority State Government — State No.

1.

Perlis 2.

Trengganu 3.

Kelantan 4.

Kedah 5.

Penang 6.

Perak 7.

Selangor... 8.

Negri ... ... Sembilan 9.

Malacca 10.

Johore 11.


Pahang ... ... 167 408 876 263 134 194 48 49 138 — 100 100 763 Total ... 1,714 Cost of Amenities 36.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state the average cost of amenities roads, lighting, etc., and land provided by Public Bodies like the State, Local, or like water-supply, Federal Governments for (a) Medium Cost Housing; (b) Low Cost Housing.
Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: Under the existing policy the provision of land and services such as water supply mains, roads, roadside drains, electricity mains is the responsibility of Local Authorities or State Governments undertaking low cost housing schemes with Federal Loan Funds.

As such the Ministry has not been supplied with comprehensive records relating to the average costs of the lands and services provided by State Governments and Local Authorities.
Such costs vary con siderably from scheme to scheme and from State to State.

Difference between Medium Costs and Low Cost Housing 37.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to give the basis of differen tiating between Medium Cost Housing and Low Cost Housing.

lends money Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: It is not the policy of this Ministry to provide funds for Medium Cost Housing.
However, for the information of the Honourable Member for Batu, the Housing Trust did undertake a few Medium Cost Housing Schemes financed from Hous ing Trust Funds.

These houses were sold for cash, the purchasers borrowing the money from Malaya Borneo Build ing Society Ltd. Low Cost Housing Schemes are schemes financed from Federal Loan Funds and are sub subsidized.

The Federal stantially Government to State Governments at interest rates below the market rate and on generous repayment terms.
The State Govern ments are required to make available land on nominal terms and provide services such as roads, water supply mains, roadside drains and electricity supply mains without any charge to the scheme.

Further, the services of the Housing Trust as architects and super vising agents are provided free of charge.
There are also other indirect subsidies, for example, transport and travelling expenses of officers of the Trust or Ministry incurred in connec tion with inspection of schemes are not charged to the Schemes.

773 6 JULY 1964 774 Applicants for Housing 38.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state whether any records are available at Stale or Federal level for the number of applicants for hous ing.

If so, would the Minister give the figures for the years 1959 onwards.
Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: Insofar as low cost housing schemes built with Federal Loan Funds are concerned the question of allocation is a matter for the State Governments or Local Autho rities.

The Ministry of Local Govern ment and Housing (formerly Ministry of Interior) is represented on State Allocation Committees.

The informa tion sought should be available from the State Governments or Local Autho rities concerned.
The collation of the actual figures of applicants for housing for the year 1959 onwards would take considerable time and is not readily available.

Units of Houses per Year 39.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing the number of additional units of (a) Medium Cost Housing and (b) Low Cost Housing required each year, State by State and for the States of Malaya as a whole.
Enche9 Khaw Kai-Boh: There has been no survey on housing or housing census, but from an analysis of other statistical information available it is estimated that something like 35,000 to 40,000 units should be built in the States of Malaya to keep abreast with the annual increase in population.

The Hon'ble Member can be assured that Government will not only continue to provide low cost housing but will intensify its activities in the years to come.

Cost and Number of Units built 40.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state the average cost and number of units of each of the types of houses built by the Federal Housing Trust (a) for the Federal Government, (ft) for the State Governments (c) for the Local Authorities, since its forma tion.

Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: Statement "A" shows the low cost house types designed by the Housing Trust for State Governments and Local Authori ties.
Also shown are the number of units per type and the average cost per unit, per type—Statement "B".

STATEMENT "A" LOW COST HOUSES AND FLATS DESIGNED BY HOUSING TRUST FOR STATE GOVERNMENT (1) Timber Detached Houses Type 1-room T l /1 2-room T2/1 3-room T3/7 3-room T3/8 3-room T3/9 3-room T4/1 5-room T6/1 6-room T7/1 1-room TBI/1 1-room TBI/2 4-room TB4/1 1-room TV1/1 TV2/1 2-room TV2/2W 2-room 3-room TV3/1 3-room TV3/2 3-room TV3/3 2-room TW2/1 2-room TW2/2 2-room Ml 3-room M2 No.
of Units 31 21 38 11 170 11 52 35 153 24 97 34 44 40 368 179 154 31 29 101 254 1,877 Under Construc tion TB4/2 TN2/1 TV3/1 TV3/5 4-room 2-room 3-room 3-room (2) Brick Terraced Houses L3/3 L3/7 L3/8 L4/8 L4/11 3-room 3-room 3-room 3-room 4-room Under Construc tion L4/2 L3/3A L3/7 3-room 3-room 3-room 50 144 49 100 343 81 274 108 35 82 580 101 79 63 243 Average Cost per Unit $2,030 2,590 2,430 3,060 2,935 2,960 4,570 6,430 2,200 2,020 3,395 2,300 2,170 3.050 2,920 3,070 2,815 2,620 2,640 1,450 1,880 3,260 1,770 2,970 4,250 $4,230 3,760 4,106 4,320 4,260 4.150 4,980 4,590 (3) Shops SH/7 2-room 30 $4,240 Under Construc tion SH/7 2-room 5,300 5 35 (4) Multi-Storey Flati Under Construe' tion 2-room 3-room 140 98 $3,450 4,600 (Cost excluding piling and site works but includ ing sewage treat ment works) 238 Shops 1-bay 2 2,720 2-bay 2-storey 5,620 8.250 13 10 25 775 6 JULY 1964 776 STATEMENT "B" LOW COST HOUSES AND FLATS DESIGNED BY HOUSING TRUST FOR LOCAL AUTHORITIES Type (1) Timber Detached T3/2 Bouses 3-room T3/2A 3-room T3/3 3-room TW2/1 2-room TW3/1 2-room No.
of Units 150 89 50 10 10 Cost!
Unit $2,220 2,420 1,880 2,190 2,920 (2) Brick Terraced Houses L3/1 L3/2 L3/3 L4/3 3-room 3-room 3-room 3-room 309 49 160 74 73 356 $2,660 3,290 3,340 4,060 (3) Shops SH/7 2-room 8 $4,830 (4) Multi-Storey Flats (Cost excluding piling and site works but includ ing sewage treatment works) Shops (5) Multi-storey Flats (Under Construc tion) (Cost excluding piling and site works but includ ing sewage treat ment works) Shops (Under Construc tion) 1-room 2-room 3-room 14 216 44 $1,850 3,940 5,480 1-bay 2-bay 274 36 11 47 3,730 4,110 2-room 3-room 4-room 420 196 12 $2,750 3,985 4,650 618 2-bay 56 4,650 Government policy on Medium and Low Cost Housing 41.
Dr Taa Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state the policy of the Federal Government for Medium Cost Housing and Low Cost Housing.

Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: There is no policy on Medium Cost Housing be cause Government does not provide loan funds for Medium Cost Housing.

However, it is relevant to mention that the Malaya Borneo Building Society Limited of which the Federal Govern ment is a major shareholder provides loans to the public to enable them to purchase houses.
In the Federal Government indirectly assists house ownership among members of the public in the middle income group.

As for low cost housing the policy laid this way down by the Federal Government is as follows: loan funds (i) The Federal Government pro vides to State Governments and Local Autho rities at 2% for low cost hire- purchase schemes and 5% for rental schemes.
The loans for hire-purchase schemes are re payable over a period not exceeding 17 years and for rental schemes over a period not exceeding a maximum of 60 years.

(ii) The houses and flats built under this policy are confined to families earning an aggregate family income of less than $300 per month.

For hire-purchase schemes occupants are required to pay monthly instalments of not more than $35 for a period of 14 years based on the capital cost bearing interest at the rate of 2% per annum.
For rental schemes occupants are required to pay rentals varying from $18 for one-room units to $50 for three-room units.

(iii) State Governments are required to provide land on nominal terms and also to provide access roads, roadside drains, water- mains and electricity mains with out any charge to the scheme.

The aforesaid relates to existing policy carried over from the former Ministry of Interior.
However, I would like to add that the whole policy relating to low cost housing is under re-considera tion and revision with a view to inten sifying the housing programme.

to state Difficulties encountered by Housing Trust 42.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and difficulties Housing encountered by the Housing Trust from State Governments in the matter of alienation of land and the provision of roads, water-supply, electricity and other amenities and the steps that have been taken to overcome them.

the Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: The Housing Trust is the architectural and supervis ing agent of Government in the imple mentation of low cost housing schemes.
777 6 JULY 1964 778 State Governments therefore do not alienate land to the Housing Trust.

It is true however that there has been in the past a lack of co-ordination between Housing Trust and Departments of the State Governments in the matter of roads, water supply, etc.

providing However, with experience better co ordination is now being achieved.

Survey of Squatters in Federal Capital the 43.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks Minister for Local Government and Housing to state when the report on the survey of the Federal Capital will be published in full.

the squatters in Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: It is assumed that the Hon'ble Member is referring to the survey carried out recently by the the Commis Traffic Consultants of sioner of the Federal Capital.
The purpose of this survey was to enable the Commissioner to obtain facts for a realistic assessment of the squatter re housing problem and to provide a basis for detailed planning and economic study of squatter rehousing.

The gist of the survey has already been released to the press and published.

It is not intended to publish this document in full.

However, a copy can be made available to the Hon'ble Member for Batu on his personal application to the Commissioner of the Federal Capital.
Land for Squatters 44.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister for Local Government and Housing to state whether any action is contemplated to prevent an increase of squatters by the provision of land, for sale or rent, for poor people needing land for building their own houses.

Enche' Khaw Kai-Boh: Alienation of land is a State matter.

However, with regard to the prevention of squatting in the Federal Capital, the Municipal Act No.
17 of 1963 and the Federal Capital (Clearance of Squatters) By-laws, 1963, the provide Federal Capital with power to control and prevent the widespread erection of squatter huts within the Municipal Area of the Federal Capital and the Com is missioner of taking action accordingly.

the Commissioner of the Federal Capital MINISTRY OF HEALTH Hospital facilities in major towns in view of 45.
Enche' C. V. Devan Nair asks the Minister of Health to state (a) if he is aware of the prevailing inadequacy of hospital facilities in the major towns of increasing Malaya the demands arising from an increasing urban population; (b) what improve ments and additions have been made in the General Hospitals in the various major towns of Malaya over the last five years; (c) whether Government has plans for improvement and expansion of the hospital facilities in the major towns of Malaya, and if so, what are these plans and when they will be implemented.
The Minister of Health Bahaman bin Samsudin): (Enche' (a) I am aware of facilities the need to improve and expand the exist ing in Malaya particularly in view of the increasing demands arising from our increasing population.

in hospitals (b) In spite of the considerable limitation of improve funds ments and additions have been made in all hospitals throughout the States of Malaya.
The following are some of the im provements effected to General hospitals in major towns over the last five years: General Hospital, Alor Kedah— Star, 1960—Extensions to Maternity Department.

1963—New Ward (1st and 2nd Class) Block.

New T.B.

Clinic and Block of Wards.

1964—Surgical Unit and Ope rating Theatre.

General Hospital, Penang— 1960—Alterations to Paediatric Unit.

Miscellaneous Improve ments.

6 JULY 1964 780 1961—Extensions to Out patients Department.

Wards Extensions and Improvements.


1962—Alterations and Exten sions to "A" Block.

1963—Replacement of Lifts.

General Hospital, Taiping— 1960—Extensions and improve ments to Wards.

1962—New Kitchen.

Alterations and Exten sions, T.B.

Clinic.

Maternity and Gynaeco logy Unit.

General Hospital, Ipoh— 1960 —Physiotherapy Depart ment Extensions.

Improvements to Mater nity Unit.

1961—Air-Conditioning Labour Room.

Extensions patients Department.

to Out 1962—Chest Clinic and T.B.

Wards.


1963—Kitchen and Stores.

General Hospital Kuala Lum pur— 1960—Improvements and Ex tensions.

1961—Improvements and Ex tensions.

T.B.

Ward, Pahang Road, Kuala Lumpur.

1962—Miscellaneous Improve ments and Additions.

2nd Ward Block (T.B.)

and Miscellaneous Im provements.

1963—New Maternity Unit.

General Hospital, Seremban— 1960—Waterborne Sanitation.

Miscellaneous Improve ments to Wards, Opera tion Theatre, and X-Ray Department.
General Hospital Malacca— 1960—Sanitary Installations.

1961—Polyclinic.

Medical Stores.

1962—Extensions to Maternity Unit.

Improvements to X-Ray Department.

Extensions Clinic.

T.B.

to General Bahru— Hospital Johore 1963—Air-conditioning of Ope ration Theatre, X-Ray Department, etc.

General Hospital, Kuantan— 1961—Polyclinic, Kuantan.

New Ward Block.

1963—2nd Ward Block.

General Hospital Kuala Treng- ganu— 1960—New Maternity Ward.

1961—New 1st Class Ward.

Air-Conditioning X-Ray Department.


1962—Medical Stores Ward Extensions.

1963—New Outpatient Depart and ment.

Chest Clinic.

General Hospital Kota Bharu— 1960—New Wards and Out patient Department Im provements.

1961—Air-Conditioning Opera tion* Theatre.

Chest Clinic and Ward.

(c) Plans for the improvements and expansion of hospital facilities and the construction of new hospitals in Malaya have been implementation drawn up for subject the availability of funds.
The following are some of the major towns: the projects to in (i) Teaching Hospital, Petaling Jaya (under construction).

781 6 JULY 1964 782 (ii) General Hospital, Kuala Lumpur (construction ex pected to start in 1965).

(iii) General Hospital, Serem- ban (construction expected to start in 1965).

(iv) General Hospital, Klang (plans being finalised; cons truction expected to start in 1966).

(v) New Wards, General Hos (construction pital, expected to start in early 1965).

Ipoh 2.
Ipoh 2.

There has been no report lodged, since the beginning of the year, of families being harrassed by hooligans though 15 anonymous petitions were received by the Police alleging gangster ism and hooliganism in the areas.

3.

Every effort is being made to stamp out hooliganism in general.

4.

There are 22 Schools in these areas and the Police keep close liaison and control with the Headmasters thereof in so far as hooliganism among school-children are concerned.
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Persons arrested as Agents of Indonesia's confrontation 46.

Dato' Haji Mustafa bin Haji Abdul Jabar bertanya kapada Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri berapa-kah jumlah orang2 yang telah di-tangkap kerana menjadi wakil Konfrantasi Indonesia kapada Malaysia (a) di- Tanah Melayu, (b) di-Singapura.

Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri (Dato' Dr Ismail bin Dato' Haji Abdul Rahman): Semenjak bulan Disember tahun 1963, sa-jumlah 149 orang Ajen/Penyusup/Penjahanam Indonesia telah di-tangkap.
Daripada bilangan 149 orang ini, 80 orang telah di- tangkap di-Semenanjong Tanah Me layu dan 69 orang di-Singapura.

5.

Actions have been taken and will continue to be taken under the Preven tion of Crimes Ordinance against known persons.

In this direction a few of the anonymous petitions received have been helpful.

Roads in Kuala Lumpur 48.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state (a) whether he is aware that several roads beside the main roads of Kuala Lumpur such as Jalan Kasipillay, Jalan Hj.

Taib, Jalan Thambosamy and others, are in a most deplorable condition and that the longer they are neglected the more expensive it would be to repair them, (b) whether steps are being taken to repair them with the minimum delay.

Hooligans and bad hats in Kuala Lumpur 47.


Enche' C. V. Devan Nair asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state whether he is aware that hooligans and bad hats harrass peaceful families and school-going children in certain areas of Kuala Lumpur, particularly along Bungsar Road, Klang Road 41/2 m.s.

), Salak South, Cheras Road, Temple Road and Loke Yew Road areas, and if so, whether Government proposes to take active measures to stamp out these persons.
Dato' Dr Ismail: Comparatively, the areas mentioned are under control.

For the 1st half of the year there were only 7 school children being harrassed by hooligans who are invariably members of Secret Societies.

reports of Dato' Dr Ismail: All public roads and streets in Kuala Lumpur which are the responsibility of the Commis sioner, Federal Capital, are always maintained in good condition.

The maintenance of private roads such as Jalan Kasipillay and Jalan Hj.

Taib is not his responsibility.


He is however taking action under Section 103 of the Municipal Ordinance in respect of these two private roads.

Accidents on the Federal Highway to Klang 49.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the to state Minister of Home Affairs (a) the number of persons who have been (i) killed, (ii) injured on the Federal Highway to Klang, (b) the areas most susceptible to accidents along the Federal Highway since the highway was opened to traffic.
783 6 JULY 1964 784 Dato' Dr Ismail: The particulars and information required are as follows: (a) ACCIDENTS ALONG THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY SINCE ITS OPENING 1960 1962 Killed Injured Killed Injured Killed Injured Killed Injured Killed Injured 1963 1964 1961 2 4 1 5 1 4 1 8 Place 1.

Junction of Jalan Bungsar/ Fed.

Highway to Municipa lity Boundary (slipway) 2.

Jalan Pantai/Fed.

Highway 3.

Jalan University/Fed.

High way (A.T.S.)

4.

Jalan Timor/Jalan Utara Fed.

Highway — — 4 11 — — 1 6 — 5 — 9 5.


Jalan Barat/Fed.

Highway 6.

Jalan Templer/Fed.

High — — 3 7 way 7.

Jalan Templer to Sg.

Way 1 7 1 — 2 2 6 6 8.

Sg.

Way to 21 m.s.

Glem- narie Estate 9.

21 m.s.

Glemnarie Estate to Klang Town Roundabout — — 3 12 — — — 7 4 3 1 10 — — 3 7 1 7 — — 2 I 3 2 9 23 9 2 7 2 2 2 7 15 — 1 2 — — 2 1 — 3 Total ... 3 41 4 35 2 43 5 62 6 49 (b) AREAS MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO ACCIDENTS ALONG THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY 1.

Jalan Timor/Jalan Utara/Federal Highway.

2.


Jalan University/Federal Highway (A.T.S.).

3.

Between junction of Slipway, Jalan Bungsar/Federal Highway to Municipal Boundary.

4.

Entrance to Sungei Way New Village.

5.

141/2 m.s.

near Batu Tiga Police Station—junctions to Puchong and Subang 6.

2nd m.s.

from Klang Town.

Area of jurisdiction of the Commissioner of the Federal Capital 50.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state (a) what towns and villages are under the control of the Commissioner of the Federal Capital and why these towns have not been put under a different local authority, (b) whether these towns form part of the Federal Capital.

Dato' Dr Ismail: (a) The under following villages, pre viously the Kuala Lumpur Town Board, were gazetted as part of the Muni cipal Area on the formation of in the Municipal Authority 1948: 1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.


Batu Village Batu Caves Kepong Sungei Besi Serdang 101/2 mile Petaling Puchong.

They are now being adminis tered by the Commissioner of the Federal Capital on behalf of the Selangor State Govern ment in so far as Municipal affairs go.

785 6 JULY 1964 786 responsibility over Negotiations on the transfer these of villages to the Selangor State Government are under way and 1st January, 1965, is already agreed upon as the tentative date for the handing over.
(b) Yes, and they will remain part of the Federal Capital until such time as they become the responsibility of the Selangor State Government.

Expatriates in Industries, Trade and Professions 51.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state the number of expatriates in the following industries and occupations who have been given work permits for each of the years since 1959 and what steps Government had taken to ensure that the industries or employers had made reasonable efforts to find local men before such work permits are given: (a) Planting Industries (b) Mining (c) Accountancy (d) Medicine (e) Engineering (/) Legal (g) Import and Export Houses.
Dato' Dr Ismail: (a) Planting Industries: 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 ... 24 ... 53 ... 43 ... 57 ... 44 .,.

7 (up to 31-5-64) Total ... 227 36 have left the country, thus leaving 191.

(b) Mining—This item has to be considered along with item (e)—i.e., engineers—because Em ployment Passes issued to those in the mining industry are also in respect of engineers such as mining engineers, maintenance engineers, permanent way engi neers, etc.
Other engineers in clude construction engineers, shift engineers, electrical engi neers, civil engineers who are mainly employed by established and reputable engineering consul tants and firms who have been awarded contracts for major construction works such as the C.E.B.

Hydro Electric Schemes, North Klang Straits project, New Air Port, new teaching hospital other major Government building projects.

The figures are— .. 62 .. 123 .. 131 .. 160 .. 95 .. 49 (up to 31-5-64) 1959 .

1960 .

1961 .

1962 .


1963 .

1964 .

and Total .

.. 620 Of these, 119 have left the country, thus leaving a balance of 501.

(c) Accountancy— 1959 ... 14 1960 ... 20 1961 ... 29 1962 ... 59 1963 ... 27 1964 ... 7 (up to 31-5-64) Total ... 136 41 have left the country and there is a balance of 95.

(d) Medicine- .

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.

.

.

1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1 1 3 4 2 Nil (up to 31-5-64) Total ... 11 787 6 JULY 1964 788 (e) Engineering—Please see para.

(b) above.
(b) above.

(/) Legal—There are only 3 ex perienced and qualified Barris ters on Employment Passes.

the necessary They possess qualifications for enrolment as Advocates and Solicitors under the Advocates and Solicitors Ordinance, 1942.
(g) Import and Export Houses— 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 12 23 26 31 42 16 (up to 31-5-64) Total ... 150 Employment Passes are issued after a case has been made out by the employer and it had been shown that the employer had been unable to obtain the services of suitable local per sons.

No Passes however would be issued to a person who does not possess the skill and quali fications necessary for the work he is to be employed.

MINISTRY OF NATIONAL AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT Land Development Scheme 52.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Deputy Prime Minister state, according to race and State, (a) the number of families that have been settled under the Land Development Scheme, (b) the number of families that have quitted such settlements since 1959. to The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun Haji Abdul Razak): (a) So far 7,244 Malaysian families (with a total population of 42,816 people) have been settled in F.L.D.A.

Schemes.

(b) The number of families that have left F.L.D.A.


Schemes since 1959 are as follows: State Kedah Perak Selangor Negri Sembilan Malacca Johore Pahang Kelantan Trengganu Number of families 11 4 4 6 12 27 12 13 3 Total 92 Settlers for F.L.D.A.

Schemes and financial assistance 53.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Deputy Prime Minister to state (a) the criteria adopted in the selection of settlers for the F.L.D.A.
Schemes; (b) the amount of financial assistance given to each family; (c) whether the assistance given varies according to the needs of the families or whether it is constant, and if it is constant to state the reasons; and (d) the condi tions under which financial assistance is given.
Tun Haji Abdul Razak: (a) The criteria adopted in the selection of settlers are that they should: (i) be Federal Citizens or State Nationals; (ii) be landless or with not more than 5 acres of land; (iii) be physically fit for hard outdoor work; (iv) be married, preferably with children; (v) be between the ages of 21 and 45; (vi) have an agricultural background preferably with some knowledge rubber/oil palms, dusun, of vegetable cultivation or animal husbandry; and (vii) be willing to abide by the condi tions of entry and also the rules and regulations prevailing in a scheme.
789 6 JULY 1964 790 assistance given (b), (c) and (d): The amount of to each financial family varies with the number of working days put in by the settler, his wife and children.

In short they are being paid according to the number of days they work in the land scheme.

In case of sickness, a settler may be paid an allowance of $1.70 per day with a maximum of $50 per month.
The present daily rates are as follows— Male Female Children (14 to 18 years) ... $2.90 per day 2.40 per day 1.80 per day MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT Development of Kuala Melaka as a harbour 54.

Enche' Abdul Karim bin Abu ber- tanya kapada Menteri Pengangkutan ada-kah Kerajaan berchadang hendak membena Kuala Melaka di-jadikan pelanchong bagi kapal2 besar dari luar negeri, dan jika ada, bila-kah tindakan2 yang patut akan di-mulakan.
jadi, ada-lah Menteri Pengangkutan (Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir): Di-sebabkan oleh tidak chukup dalam-nya ayer dan juga lain2 keadaan 'alam yang sudah tidak dapat sa-mula hendak di-jadikan Melaka pelabohan untok kapal2 besar dengan tidak mengeluarkan belanja yang banyak.

Bagaimana pun, Kerajaan ada-lah sedang bersunggoh2 menyelideki soal hendak mengadakan Lembaga Pela bohan di-Melaka dengan tujuan untok memperbaiki dan memajukan pela bohan itu supaya memberi kesenangan kapada kapal2 kechil.
Haulage Permits to state 55.

Enche' C. V. Devan Nair asks the the Minister of Transport number of haulage permits granted to active operators of public vehicles, the mode and method of issue of such permits, and the governing body, if the names and any, addresses of members of such body.
together with • of haulage Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: permits The number (legally termed as Carrier's Licences under the Road Traffic Ordinance, 1958) authorising goods vehicles for the carriage of goods for hire or reward as on 30th April, 1964 is as follows: No.

of vehicles 1,872 No.


of Licence Holders 782 ... Each applicant is required to submit his application on the prescribed form obtainable from the Road Transport Department and, should be forwarded to the Road Transport Licensing Board, c/o Headquarters, Road Tran sport Department, Government Offices, Petaling the Licensing Board considers that from the documentary evidence submitted there is prima with the application facie evidence to show that: Selangor.
Jaya, If (a) there is a traffic need in the area or areas applied for and that that traffic need is not met by existing transport facilities; or (b) existing in transport facilities for the carriage of goods for hire or reward in the areas applied inadequate or for are either unsuitable, the application will be published the Government Gazette to afford an opportunity for interested parties to lodge their objections.
The application will eventually be heard and deter mined by the Licensing Board at a Public Inquiry, the place, date and time of which will also be published in the Government Gazette.

The applicant will also be notified in writing.

The applicant, with his Counsel, if any, together with applicant's witnesses must attend the Public Inquiry and the evidence given by the applicant and his witnesses will be subject to cross- examination by the objectors, and their Counsel, if any.
The objectors' testi mony to cross- likewise subject examination by the applicant or his Counsel.

At the Public Inquiry, the Licensing Board will give its decision on the applicant, or reserve its decision on the applicant the conclusion of is 791 6 JULY 1964 792 and communicate the same in writing to the applicant within 14 days from the date of completion of the hearing.

There are provisions for appeals against any decision of this Board.
The Road Transport Licensing Board consists of the Commissioner as Chairman and 8 other members appointed of Transport under Section 105 (1) of the Road Traffic Ordinance, 1958.

The present members are as follows: the Minister by Names of members and address Dato' Abdul Hamid bin Mustapha, D.P.M.J., 40A Jalan Abdul Samad, Johore Bahru.

Dr Chua Sin Kah, J.P., J.M.N., 170 High Street, Kuala Lumpur.

Dato' Laksamana Haji Mohamed Razalli bin Hj.


Mohamed Ali Wasi, P.J.K., J.M.N., 1117 J.P., Javanese Road, Teluk Anson.

Enche' Cheah Ewe Keat, J.M.N., J.P., Jalan Pekeliling.

Kuala 243 Lumpur.

Enche' Teoh Thye Moh, P.J.K., J.P., 45 Ayer Rajah Road, Penang.

Dato' Shamsuddin bin Nain, P.P.T., c/o Malayan Rubber Fund Board, Malayan Bank Building, P.O.

Box 508, Kuala Lumpur.

Dato' Nik Ahmad bin Haji Nik Mahmood, D.J.M.K., Jalan Merbau, Kota Bharu, Kelan- tan.
D.P.M.K., Dato' (Dr) R. Sathiah, J.M.N., J.P., 96 Rembau Street, Klang.

(Two members plus the Chairman will form a quorum).

Taxi-meters 56.
Taxi-meters 56.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Transport to state (a) the reasons for the introduction of taxi meters on taxis operating in rural areas and (b) whether he is aware that these meters are of no assistance to passengers as the metered rates are invariably higher than the usual rates charged by the taxi operators, and if so, whether he would exempt such taxis from installing these meters.

Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: in (a) Taxi-meters are taxi-cabs only.
There are no taxi-cabs in rural areas.

Instead there are hire cars but these are not required to instal meters.

installed (b) This question does not arise.

Taxi Licence to M. Mohammed Ismail 57.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the to state the Minister of Transport grounds on which it was decided to give one M. Mohammed Ismail, a president of the Nibong Tebal Branch of the Malayan Indian Cong ress a licence to operate a taxi bearing registration No.

PE.
PE.

1518 which is supposed to be based at Changkat while he lives at Krian Estate five miles away while other applicants were turned down.

the vacancy Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: A vacancy for a hire car to be based at Changkat, Province Wellesley was the Regional first advertised by Licensing Board, Penang, from 22nd May to 30th June, 1963.

Only 4 persons responded to this advertise including Enche' M. Mohd.

ment, inter Ismail.
ment, inter Ismail.

The Licensing Board viewed all these 4 applicants and selected Enche' Mohd.

Ismail as the suitable applicant.

However, most two of the unsuccessful applicants appealed against this decision to the Central Licensing Board, as a result of which the Central Licensing Board ordered re- advertised fresh opportunity to apply.

Accordingly, the vacancy was re-advertised from 14th to 15th February, 1964.
January However this second advertisement attracted only 2 applicants, namely, Enche' M. Mohd.

Ismail and Enche' Desa bin Saat.

The Regional Licensing Board, Penang, at its meeting on 4th March, 1964, selected Enche' M. Mohd.

Ismail as being the more suitable of the two applicants on the grounds that whilst Desa lived at Butterworth which is about 22 miles from Chang kat, Enche' M. Mohd.

Ismail ran a sundry goods shop at Changkat itself and intended to drive the taxi himself.
Although he has another residence in to give others a to be 793 6 JULY 1964 794 Krian Estate, Kg.

Changkat, in fact, forms part of the estate.

There was no further appeal after this.

The principle of Malay participa tion was no bar against the selection of Enche' M. Mohd.

Ismail because the target percentage for Malays in the State of Penang had already pre viously been achieved.

Policy for issue of Taxi licences the 58.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks Minister of Transport the to state policy of the Government in granting taxi licence and whether the needs of the applicants and his family are taken into consideration, if not, why.
Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: The Licensing Board, in exercising its discretion to grant or refuse an appli taxi cab or hire car cation for a licence takes into primary considera tion the following factors: (a) whether the applicant resides at the base from which the taxi cab or hire car is to operate; (b) whether the applicant served as a member of Security Forces; (c) whether he has the financial has the ability to acquire a vehicle; (d) whether he is going to drive the vehicle himself.
In addition to the above-mentioned factors, the Licensing Board also takes into account the family circumstances of the applicant and whenever all things are equal, the applicant with more dependants would be selected.

Emission of excessive smoke by Buses the 59.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks Minister of Transport to state why buses using diesel oil as fuel are not subjected to the same control in the matter of emission of excessive smoke as are lorries.
Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: the Motor Vehicles Section 107 of (Construction and Use) Rules, 1959, prohibiting the emission of excessive smoke applies equally to all types of including buses and motor vehicles lorries.

MINISTRY OF WORKS, POSTS AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS State Capital for Selangor 60.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Tele communications to state whether the State Government has consulted his Ministry over the proposed State Capital for Selangor and what advice his Ministry gave.

The Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications (Dato' V. T. Sam- banthan): The siting and development of the State Capital is a matter for the State Government.

Traffic congestion in the Federal Highway 61.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Tele communications to state whether it is a fact that the Federal Highway to Port Swettenham is already congested with traffic and if so whether it is proposed to construct a by-pass at Petaling Jaya, (b) the estimated cost of the by-pass.

Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: The Federal Highway to Port Swettenham is not congested with traffic and is its now only carrying a fraction of maximum capacity.

62.
62.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom munications to state whether, in view of the fact that the Federal Highway is already congested with traffic steps are being or have been taken to prevent the establishment of the Selangor State Capital straddling the Highway at Batu Tiga, and if so what steps that have been taken so far.

should Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: The Federal Highway is not congested with traffic.
However, the State Capital be sited on or near this High way at Batu Tiga, access from the State Capital to the Highway will be so designed as to ensure smooth flow on the Highway.

63.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom munications to state whether it is a fact that precautions were not taken to 795 6 JULY 1964 796 ensure that the development of Petaling Jaya did not affect the flow of traffic on the Federal Highway, and if so, why.
Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: Precau tions were taken to ensure that the development of Petaling Jaya did not affect the flow of traffic on the Federal Highway which resulted in the limited access provided.

The junctions have been designed so that, when the traffic density warrants, improvements can be effected.

Fatal traffic accidents along Bungsar Road 64.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom munications to state whether he is aware that a large number of fatal accidents have occurred along Bungsar Road, Kuala Lumpur and if so whether he is taking steps to minimise the number of accidents by the construc tion of pedestrian crossings, raised dividers, or subways, etc.

Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: There have been two fatal accidents between January and May this year.
Measures to minimise the number of accidents are under consideration.

Fly-overs at junction of Jalan University and the Federal Highway at Petaling Jaya 65.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom munications to state whether he intends to build fly-overs at the junction of Jalan University and the Federal High way at Petaling Jaya; if not what steps he proposes to take to speed the flow of traffic and reduce accidents at this place, Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: Detailed traffic surveys are now under way with a view to determining whether a fly over is yet justified at Jalan University.
As an interim measure, further traffic lights are being installed at the Jalan Utara/Federal Highway junction, the intention being type of that manoeuvre at each junction will be restricted in order to provide safer and faster traffic flows.

the Traffic on the Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman 66.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom munications to state whether it is pro posed to develop Batu Lane to ease the traffic along Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman (Batu Road), Kuala Lumpur, if not, what plans his Ministry has to ease the traffic along this road.
Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: A detailed traffic survey has been undertaken by a Firm of Consultants and they will make recommendations on ways and means of improving traffic flow through and within Kuala Lumpur.

Round-about at Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman and Jalan Campbell 67.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works Posts and Telecom munications to state why a "round about" has not been constructed at the junction of Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman and Campbell Road.
Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: As in the above question No.

66.

Bye-passes around Kuala Lumpur 68.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom munications to state whether he intends to build bye-passes round the Federal Capital to divert traffic away from the Federal Capital, as a matter of utmost urgency; if so, how; if not, why.

Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: As.

replied to question No.

66.

Bye-pass from Nibong Tebal to Simpang Ampat 69.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom munications to state what decision has been made with regard to the bye-pass from Nibong Tebal to Simpang Ampat in Province Wdlesley on Route I. Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: This bye- pass will be considered along with other proposals for the 1st in inclusion Malaysia Development Plan.

Post Office at Batu Village 70.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Works, Posts and Tele communications to state whether he is aware that there is a real need for a Post Office at Batu Village, and if so, whether he intends to build one.

797 6 JULY 1964 798 Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: A Postal Agency was opened at Batu Village (Batu Lima, Jalan Ipoh) on 2nd December, 1963, and deliveries of letters are done by Postmen from Kepong.
The area is also served by a from Kuala Mobile Post Office Lumpur times a week.

This three Village is satisfactorily situated between three Post Offices namely: Sentul Post Office ... 11/2 miles away Kepong Post Office... 23/4 „ Batu Caves At present Batu Village receives the fullest postal services and is therefore in no immediate need of a Post Office.

... 21/2 „ „ „ PRIME MINISTER'S DEPARTMENT Compulsory Voting 71.
Enche' C. V. Devan Nair asks the Prime Minister state whether to Government will introduce legislation to provide for compulsory registration of voters and compulsory voting.

The Prime Minister: The Election Commission is currently studying the possibility or otherwise of introducing legislation to provide for compulsory registration of voters and compulsory voting.

This is an intricate matter and one which should be carefully looked into before it can be adopted.

Improvements to the Pensions Scheme 72.


Enche' C. V. Devan Nair asks the Prime Minister whether Government intends to improve the existing Pension Scheme in view of the fact that for the past several years there has been considerable improvement in the wage structure both in private and public sectors.

The Prime Minister: No.

Pensions are calculated on the basis of the last drawn salary of the officer at the time of his retirement.

GCS Clerical Examination 73.


Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Prime Minister to state (a) the number of GCS Clerks, according to State and year who have the clerical examinations since 1957; (ft) the number who examination; (c) the types of paper that are set and the conditions for passing these exami nations.
failed taken these in The Prime Minister: (a) The number of candidates who sat for the clerical examinations from 1957 is shown in the Statement below; the clerical examinations during the same period is also shown in the Statement; and (b) The number who to April, 1963 failed (c) The question is not clear.

RESULT OF GENERAL CLERICAL SERVICE EXAMINATIONS FROM 1957-1963 No.

States G.C.S.

Exam.

15th and 16th April, 1957 G.C.S.

Exam.

29th and 30th April, 1958 G.C.S.

Exam.


18th and 19th August, 1958 G.C.S.

Exam.

20th and 21st April, 1959 G.C.S.

Exam.

7th and 8th December, 1959 1.

Perlis 2.

Kedah 3.

Penang 4.

Perak 5.

Selangor 6.

N. Setnbilan ... 7.

Malacca 8.

Johore 9.

Pahang 10.

Trengganu 11.

Kelantan ... No.

Sat 10 37 37 32 66 34 9 30 18 22 25 No.

Failed 2 13 11 19 38 27 6 15 12 17 23 No.

Sat 7 21 31 50 70 40 4 20 12 27 30 No.

Failed 6 19 25 39 49 34 4 14 9 25 23 No.

Sat 9 27 39 51 75 40 4 28 16 40 33 No.


Failed 5 24 25 32 49 29 4 23 15 35 19 No.

Sat 5 37 40 91 98 40 3 30 27 47 36 No.

Failed 4 35 31 83 69 36 2 23 22 35 27 No.

Sat 7 42 36 108 99 39 6 25 30 49 41 No.

Failed 7 35 30 89 80 37 4 23 27 41 40 TOTAL ... 310 173 312 247 367 265 454 363 492 413 799 No.

States 1.

Perlis 2.

Kedah 3.

Penang 4.

Perak 5.

Selangor 6.

N. Sembilan ... 7.

Malacca 8.

Johore 9.

Pahang 10.

Trengganu 11.

Kelantan No.

States 1.

Perlis 2.

Kedah 3.

Penang 4.

Perak 5.


Selangor 6.

N. Sembilan 7.

Malacca 8.

Johore 9.

Pahang 10.

Trengganu 11.

Kelantan 6 JULY 1964 800 G.C.S.

Exam.

15th and 16th March, 1960 G.C.S.

Exam.

15th and 16th August, 1960 G.C.S.

Exam.

13th and 14th March, 1961 G.C.S.

Exam.

31st July and 1st August, 1961 No.

Sat 7 50 40 126 136 53 7 40 46 41 69 No.

Failed 4 42 28 73 74 47 6 35 39 32 56 No.

Sat 5 60 36 121 249 53 33 68 64 45 67 No.

Failed 3 47 24 80 203 44 26 59 54 42 55 No.


Sat 4 59 38 130 366 71 24 99 82 50 80 No.

Failed 4 59 38 124 344 70 24 97 81 47 77 No.

Sat 5 79 40 156 416 86 34 92 97 53 82 No.

Failed 4 70 35 136 372 79 24 87 83 47 75 TOTAL 615 436 801 637 1,003 965 1,137 1,012 G.C.S.

Exam.

17th and 18th April, 1962 G.C.S.

Exam.

14th and 15th August, 1962 G.C.S.

Exam.

29th and 30th April, 1963 No.

Sat 5 71 49 183 409 90 38 96 112 59 98 No.

Failed 2 53 40 160 357 81 28 77 98 53 92 No.


Sat 3 63 56 211 387 91 35 86 105 57 100 No.

Failed 3 61 53 204 371 88 30 85 101 53 99 No.

Sat 6 72 63 223 432 95 36 94 132 72 98 No.

Failed 6 65 56 201 390 80 31 85 123 69 92 TOTAL 1,210 1,041 1,196 1,150 1,423 1.308 Standard One Malay Government Examination 74.
Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Prime Minister to state the (a) num ber of officers who sat for the Govern ment Standard One Malay Examination and the number which failed for the last five years, (b) Reasons for the increasing proportion of failures.

The Prime Minister: (a) It is assumed that the Hon'ble Member refers to the Standard One Malay Government this examination.
The results of examination from 1959 to 1963 are as follows: Year June, 1959 ... December, 1959 June, 1960 ... December, 1960 June, 1961 ... December, 1961 ... June, 1962 ... June, 1963 December, 1963 No.

of candidates who sat for the examination 413 440 156 242 282 246 270 291 253 No.

of candidates who failed 276 304 84 176 169 165 204 170 129 801 6 JULY 1964 802 (b) Part (b) of the question does not arise as the proportion of failures· is not increasing.

75.
75.

Dr Tan Chee Doon asks, ·the Prime Minister to stafe the number of officers who have nt>t been promoted or confirmed fol.'

failing to pass ' in the National· Language.

· The Prime Minister: the It is not possible to supply information required in the time given as it involves prolonged research of: records of all Federal Departments~ Division I posts in the Government ""'ice Number of vacandea 76.
Dr Tan Chee · Khoon asks the Prime Minister to state the (a) number of Division One posts that are vacant and the number of posts that have been vacant for the last five years; (b) reasons for not filling these posts.

The Prime Minister: (a) The number of Division I posts vacant in the public service on is 1,125.

It is not 1-1-1964 possible to give the number of posts that have been vacant in the last five years because their number fluctuates from year to year.
(b) The reason for the inability to fill the posts is the shortage of suitably qualified candidates applying the posts, or serving officers eligible for pro motion to the posts.

for Present holders of Division I posts in Civil Se"lce the 77.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks Prime Minister to state, by race, the number of the present occupants of posts in the civil service in Malaysia.

The Prime Minister: In the first place the term "civil service" used is not clear.

the term "public service" is used.


More over it is not desirable to state the racial composition of any service.

the Constitution In MINISTRY .OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS " \)'itlldrawal of.

Jndoneslan perlllu 78.

· Dato' Hajl-Mustafa bin Haji Abdul Jabar · bertanya ' Perdana Menteri, Kerajaan mana-kah akan berkenaan perbelanjaan membayar dengan penyelia pengundoran peng ganas2 Indonesia yang di-bi.rat oleh Negeri Tbaila,n'1 ilu.
kapada : 1 Perdua Menteric Ada·lah di.taham kim bahawa belanjal ,itu akaD di-bayar bersama oleh Kerajaan Malaysia dan Kerajaan lndonesia .. Sa-bagaimana yang di-ketahui 1am .. nya( pasokan Pengesah Thai itu ada-lah di~babagikan kapada dua bahagian.

Satu bahagian bertugas dari Kuching dan menjalank.an kerja2 pengesahan itu di-pusat pengundoran di-Tebedu.

Bahagian yang satu lagi bertugas dari Pontianak di-pusat peng undoran di-Entikong dalam daerah Indonesia.
Belanja2 pasokan Thai yang bertugas dari Kuching, ia-itu mengan dongi 22 orang pegawai2, belanja2 tempoh mereka berada di dalam Malaysia dan belanja menyediakan tempa~2 tinggal dan sa-bagai-nya untok menyenangkan kerja mereka, akan di tanggong oleh Kerajaan Malaysia.

Damage to the Malaysian Embassy in Jakarta 79.


Dato' Haji Mustafa bin Haji Abdul Jabar bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri apa-kah tindakan yang telah di-jalankan oleh Indonesia sa-telah Kerajaan Malaysia membantah kerana kerosakan yang telah di-buat atas Kedutaan Malaysia di-Jakarta itu dan ada-kah Kerajaan telah mengeluarkan wang ganti atas ke rosakan2 Kedutaan Malaysia itu.
Indonesia sa-puchok Perdana Menteri: Apabila kita mendapat tahu berkenaan dengan kerosakan kapada Kedutaan Malaysia di-Jakarta, maka surat telah di-hantar melalui Kerajaan Thai membantah kapada Kerajaan Indo nesia terhadap tindakan yang ta• patut dan belum pemah terjadi yang di lakukan oleh orang2 Indonesia.
Kita telah mema'alumkan kapada juga orang2 Indonesia bahawa Kerajaan 803; 6 JULY 19641 804 Malaysia akan 111ektakkari tanggong jawab kapada .. Kerajaan Indonesia terhadap apa2 kerugian atau kerosakan kapada harta benda Ketajaan 'Mafaysia dan kita 111eayimpaa::l).q1'.

bo~, ,IIJ.et- 1umtut ganti rugi da~ Ker~jaan Indonesia yang berse.tuju k~ menerima nya, Foreign assistance to Malayslll qalmt Indonesian Confrontation 80.
Dato~ Haji ~ bin; ' Haji Abdlll- Jabu bertan¥ll kapada Perdana Menteri negeri2 1Jl8lDB;-kab; yang telah membuat pengakuan msmi yang iai.

akan .

membantu Malaysia daripada Konfrantasi lndoriesia.

., Perdana Memeri~ Oleh .

kerana teraniaya dalam kita pehak yan.g dasar konffantasi Indonesia ini, banyak negara.2 yang bersahabat dengan kita memberi sokongan kapada kita sama ada sokongan dengan di-fahamkan ~ja.

atav., .~gan ~rt~_.s--.ng: yang memben Bila.n~ ncgara2 sokpngan.
demikiaD itu makin ber tambah .k~raoa kita dapat menei:angkan kemushkilan kita kapa<!a Kerajaan2 yang kita tidak ada wakil boleh rrum.erartgkan-eya.

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nisbah soko.ngan tent¢J:a, Great Br.itain telah berulang2 menyatakan akan membeci sokongan menuliQt sharat~ Pe1janjia»: antara: Britain; dengan Pertahanan Malaysia.

Australia dan New Zealand, dari kerana berkait dengan Perjanjian P~anan 'itti, telah juga moodzahir kan perdiriatt masingl atas masaalah ini.
AmeriQ., ,)~harikat: aqa-lah di ketabui ber~mpati dengan kita.

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